[14:22] <cfhowlett> !mac | ircmaxell
[14:22] <mijk> hi, my wifi connection says "unmanaged"
[14:22] <artiomjar> how to load grub menu during boot from other file?
[14:22] <mijk> I can only connect if I hard code into /etc/network/interfaces
[14:22] <ircmaxell> cfhowlett: I've looked on the documentation. The only info there is for 2014 hardware (6,2).
[14:22] <TJ-> gartral: what does "sudo cryptsetup isLuks /dev/sda3 && echo Yes || echo No" report?
[14:23] <TuquiTuqui> When I tryi with "pastebin -b http://pastebin.com" I get "Bad API request, invalid api_dev_key
[14:23] <TuquiTuqui> "
[14:23] <TuquiTuqui> *pastebinit
[14:24] <gartral> TJ-: "No"
[14:24] <EriC^^> gartral: what's in /etc/crypttab?
[14:24] <gartral> EriC^^: cryptswap1 UUID=736dd4f1-8f93-492d-a401-0f6a1df10aac /dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64
[14:25] <TJ-> gartral: OK, so something has removed the LUKS header
[14:25] <EriC^^> gartral: ok, remove that line
[14:25] <TuquiTuqui> It does work with "paste.ubuntu.com". How do I make it work with pastebin.org?
[14:25] <gartral> EriC^^: remove or comment out?
[14:26] <TJ-> gartral: it doesn't explain how sda3 gets mounted as swap though - I suspect this is systemd's doing since it ignores /etc/fstab for thins kind of thing
[14:26] <EriC^^> TJ-<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:26] <EriC^^> gartral: comment it out if you'd like or remove it since you won't be using the encrypted swap
[14:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: removing that is not what is required; the issue is that systemd is making the original partition SWAP rather than doing the encryption first
[14:27] <EriC^^> TJ-: but it says At early boot and when the system manager configuration is reloaded this /etc/crypttab is translated into<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:28] <TJ-> EriC^^: yes, and it indicates that "systemd-cryptsetup-generator" should be run to translate /etc/crypttab ... I bet that is the bit that is missing
[14:28] <gartral> EriC^^: but i'd like to have my swap encrypted as gennerally I suspend or hibernate my computer instead of powering down
[14:29] <MoPac> Noob gdb question: is there a way to load symbols from a different program to the one being run? I'm trying to backtrace a crash in Chrome, and I figure (maybe naively) that the chromium-browser-dbg file might work for it...
[14:29] <TJ-> gartral: I think this is the key phrase "system manager configuration is reloaded"
[14:30] <gartral> MoPac: never do that, chome and chromium have different symbol maps as they're compiled from different trees on different computers
[14:30] <TJ-> MoPac: I doubt it, the offsets will all be incorrect even if the symbols are identical
[14:30] <MoPac> Fair enough.
[14:33] <mijk> hi, my wifi connection says "unmanaged" in 15.04, I can only connect by hard coding /etc/network/interfaces
[14:34] <TuquiTuqui> When I type "echo "abc" | pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" it returns: http://paste.debian.net
[14:34] <TJ-> gartral: I'm wondering if we simply make sda3 a LUKS device now that will cure it. As in "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sda3 --cipher=aes-xts-plain64 --offset=1024 --key-file=/dev/urandom --uuid=736dd4f1-8f93-492d-a401-0f6a1df10aac"
[14:35] <ponig-hp> цц
[14:35] <TJ-> gartral: then do "sudo update-initramfs -u" in case that is needed to trigger systemd's generator/configuration code
[14:37] <gartral> TJ-: cryptsetup: Option --offset is supported only for open of plain and loopaes devices.
[14:38] <TJ-> gartral: I wonder what created that /etc/crypttab then, since I took the options from what you pastebinned
[14:38] <saurabh> Hi, I'm using 14.04.3 _x86_64.
[14:38] <saurabh> I installed lamp server using tasksel
[14:38] <saurabh> I want to install opencart.
[14:39] <saurabh> I extracted the file in /var/www/
[14:39] <saurabh> however, I don't know the ip address needed to access opencart in a browser
[14:39] <gartral> TJ-: the installer
[14:41] <TJ-> gartral: unless something major has changed I cannot imagine where that option came from though, it doesn't make sense for LUKS devices at all
[14:41] <saurabh> I referred a tutorial on digital oceans, but I cannot make it work
[14:42] <gartral> TJ-: it's likely because I had to reinstall because first time through I had enabled FDE by accident and forgot the password, so I reinstalled without FDE telling the installer to "wipe and start fresh"
[14:42] <TJ-> gartral: I've used very sophisticated LUKs encryption configurations for years but I've not come across what you're seeing, in terms of the raw device not being LUKS even though the config files all match up and declare it to be used as encrypted
[14:43] <philip_> how do u resize when using lvm
[14:43] <gartral> philip_: expand or contract?
[14:43] <TJ-> gartral: FDE shouldn't affect encrypted swap though
[14:43] <TJ-> philip_: "lvextend'
[14:43] <philip_> expand
[14:44] <gartral> TJ-: what about the fact that the swap was partially encrypted by the fde?
[14:45] <ilikeithard>  hi guys - I'm looking for an IT job in Nice/France, maybe some1 can share some pointers where should I start searching?
[14:45] <mijk> Google.
[14:45] <mijk> workopolis for France?
[14:45] <mijk> moster.fr if it exists?
[14:45] <somsip> !ot
[14:46] <mijk> monster*
[14:46] <monster> ha
[14:46] <TJ-> I think somehow systemd is trying to unlock cryptswap1 just after cryptsetup has done luksFormat on it, but *before* "luksOpen" ... because as crypsetup knows it is for 'swap' no passphrase should be asked for
[14:46] <mijk> red or blue shirt today?
[14:47] <gartral> TJ-: I'll just disable encryption on it
[14:47] <ilikeithard> ok
[14:47] <TJ-> gartral: the LUKS header at the start of a raw device is the only way to recognise an encrypted device. systemd obviously must see such header and more-over it must read /etc/crypttab because it even tells you the device-mapper name for it (cryptswap1)
[14:47] <TJ-> gartral: I think that will be quicker for now :)
[14:48] <gartral> TJ-: just comment out what's in /etc/crypttab?
[14:48] <philip_> will like to extend the harddisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071544/
[14:49] <philip_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071544/
[14:49] <TJ-> gartral: Yes, and the associated line /etc/fstab ... I think systemd will know enough to carry on making sda3 swap at reboot
[14:50] <gartral> philip_: you aren't trying to do this on a running system, are you?
[14:50] <philip_> i want to do this on a running system
[14:51] <gartral> philip_: abort! never resize a live, running filesystem!
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> philip_  you can't repair a car while you're driving
[14:51] <TJ-> philip_: I suspect you may need "pvresize" first, before the VG will see the extra space
[14:52] <TJ-> gartral: fiddlesticks! LVM is built for online reshape/resize!
[14:52] <gartral> TJ-: the LVM container, yes... not the filsystems contained inside!
[14:52] <philip_> it is still a test am doing ,so how can this be done
[14:53] <TJ-> gartral: Yes... you never done "resize2fs /" ? I do it all the time
[14:53] <n0rp3d> hey, i know it's not ubuntu related, butcou.d anybody tell me how to search for channels in irc?
[14:53] <auronandace> !alis
[14:54] <EriC^^> !alis
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> n0rp3d  type /msg alis list blah
[14:54] <gartral> TJ-: every time I try, the fs breaks.. if you can't tell, i'm a magnet for breaking things that should "Just work"
[14:54] <TJ-> philip_: Your issue is, /dev/sda is now 838 GiB after adding the additional disk to the hardware RAID-5,  but the original partition table only allocates ~560GB ...
[14:54] <n0rp3d> thanks man
[14:54] <philip_> TJ yes...so i want to increase the 560GB
[14:55] <philip_> TJ_:yes...so i want to increase the 560GB
[14:55] <Fjorgynn> good for you
[14:55] <gartral> TJ-: wish me luck, going down for reboot
[14:56] <philip_> TJ-:yes...so i want to increase the 560GB
[14:56] <Fjorgynn> philip_: STOP repeating yourse¨lf
[14:56] <TJ-> philip_: So, first you need to use 'gdisk' or 'parted' to add another partition to sda that uses up all that new free space. After you've done that, tell the kernel to re-read the partition table with "kpartx -a" or "partprobe", then you can add the new partition to the existing vg-root with "pvcreate /dev/sdaX" (X being the new partition), and then "vgextend vg-root /dev/sdX"
[14:57] <TJ-> philip_: at that point the new space is available for 'lvextend'
[14:58] <philip_> TJ- pls can you kindly give me a step be step command to do that...will really appreciate
[14:59] <TJ-> philip_: I just did!
[14:59] <gartral> TJ-: welp... now we've done it... swap's not loading automatically
[14:59] <Abhijit> anyone using smplayer? i set it as default player. when i click on new songs they open with smplayer only if smplayer is not already running? how to solve it?
[14:59] <TJ-> gartral: OK, so systemd logs then - it took over all this early-boot stuff
[15:00] <philip_> since its an ubuntu server i cant use gdisk but rather parted( how will i use the parted command ).thank you
[15:00] <gartral> TJ-: wait... wait... do you still have my pastbin of /etc/fstab?!
[15:00] <TJ-> philip_: of course you can use gdisk - it is a command-line tool
[15:01] <TJ-> gartral:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071054/
[15:02] <linuxuz3r> is there kindle for ubuntu
[15:02] <badbodh> Abhijit, you probably set it "enqueue in smplayer" press play to...well...play
[15:02] <OerHeks> linuxuz3r, ebookreader?
[15:02] <linuxuz3r> no kindle
[15:02] <gartral> TJ-: is line 13 *supposed* to be commented out?!
[15:03] <philip_> okay....pls tj a step by step like saying, use parted -l then and so on and so
[15:03] <OerHeks> linuxuz3r, turning ubuntu into a kindle ??
[15:03] <linuxuz3r> no a kindle app for ubuntu
[15:03] <Abhijit> badbodh, its not enquied. i checkd its playlist option it do not show the new song i just clicked
[15:03] <OerHeks> kindle = ebook
[15:03] <kvgeorge1> Good morning.  After yesterday's software update, anytime I watch a video from chrome/firefox/opera, etc. in full-screen, coming out of fullscreen locks the desktop up and it becomes unresponsive to where I have to power-off the machine
[15:04] <kvgeorge1> Doesn't matter which video driver, browser, location, etc. I use - same results
[15:04] <badbodh> Abhijit, do you have any other player? set it as default and see if same problem occurs
[15:04] <OerHeks> linuxuz3r, calibre handles .mobi fine
[15:04] <Abhijit> OerHeks, then, Windwos = Computer Operating Sysetm.
[15:04] <Abhijit> badbodh, it works with other players such as vlc. i want to use smplayer
[15:04] <TJ-> philip_: If you're administering a complex system with hardware RAID and LVM then it is your responsibility to figure out howknow how to use
[15:04] <OerHeks> Abhijit, he didn't made his question clear, as i understood him fine, he pulled the wrong leg.
[15:05] <TJ-> philip_: the tools. I've given you a comprehensive outline of what is needed; the rest is up to you.
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> philip_  you have to be willing to learn something new and do an effort for it
[15:06] <kvgeorge1> Oh, and I am running 14.04 LTS 64-bit and have a NVidia Quatro 2000 card in it
[15:06] <Abhijit> OerHeks, okey! no offence though!
[15:06] <kvgeorge1> *Nvidia Quadro 2000, sorry
[15:07] <philip_> but hope using a RAID and LVm is good for use
[15:08] <badbodh> Abhijit, ubuntu and smplayer version? ek bar preferences>playlist me bhi dekh lo.
[15:08] <Abhijit> :-o
[15:09] <philip_> can one use a ubuntu desktop live cd for an ubuntu server.
[15:09] <OerHeks> kvgeorge1, that happens here sometimes too, chrome/firefox: solution, alt tab, to switch desktoppanel, and back to restore.
[15:10] <Abhijit> badbodh, what if I was from south?
[15:10] <kvgeorge1> OerHeks, I will try that. This wasn't happening before the update though....is this normal?
[15:10] <linuxuz3r> OerHeks: there is a web app for it
[15:11] <badbodh> Abhijit, are you ?
[15:11] <OerHeks> kvgeorge1, not normal no. it is a little anoying, but with alt-tab switch i can solve it
[15:11] <Abhijit> no
[15:11] <kvgeorge1> OerHeks, I will try it.
[15:11] <kvgeorge1> Hopefully, I won't blow-up and have to power off again
[15:12] <OerHeks> linuxuz3r, you make no sense .. webap for kindle... you asked for an ereader/ebookreader that handles kindle format
[15:12] <linuxuz3r> see i dont know if kindle books are drmed
[15:12] <OerHeks> !info calibre
[15:12] <linuxuz3r> i need a book that i can read in all os
[15:12] <badbodh> Abhijit, you can also use smplayer or umplayer ppa-s safely, they don't mess with base packages and can be conveniently removed.
[15:13] <Abhijit> badbodh, sure. will thy that. thanks.
[15:15] <ahad> \q
[15:15] <Abhijit> ahad, /part
[15:15] <ahad> thanks
[15:16] <ahad> Hey guys, does anyone has an experience of doing pen-testing using aircrack-ng?
[15:16] <Abhijit> :-(
[15:16] <Abhijit> ahad, kali and backtrack guys will know better
[15:16] <OerHeks> ahad, some of us do, but pentesting is offtopic here.
[15:17] <ahad> so guys can you tell me the right channel for it? that would be of great help :)
[15:17] <badbodh> OerHeks, shush! we don;'t want no script kiddies ddosing us :P
[15:23] <Guest12210> s?
[15:26] <Guest12210> 拉票
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[15:31] <aryan_> Guy. where can I get support of Telegram APP ?
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> aryan_  type /msg alis list blah to find a channel
[15:41] <FrankFromHR> asd
[15:43] <Rejsende> Hello there, I am running ubuntu as dual-boot on a macbook pro, and having troubles with the wifi setup (although I installed the drivers...) can anyone help with that?
[15:43] <wereldbol> 'evening
[15:44] <wereldbol> is it possible to write all lines in a function to an external file ?
[15:44] <wereldbol> i use a function with language strings and like to have it as file also
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> wereldbol  a function?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> wereldbol  and what are language strings?
[15:45] <wereldbol> example: function language { langstr001="hello world" }
[15:45] <Pici> wereldbol: this is #ubuntu, are you sure you're in the right channel?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> wereldbol  a coding language, or a 'human' language
[15:46] <wereldbol> well pici... i asked bash but it seems crashed :)
[15:46] <wereldbol> i use bash script
[15:46] <Pici> wereldbol: #bash isn't as busy as here, but its a far better place to ask this.
[15:46] <wereldbol> it looks for a language file at start
[15:47] <wereldbol> if not found then it use the function language
[15:47] <wereldbol> if not found a language file i like to export all the lines in that function to a file
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> what looks for a language? what do you mean by a function?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> wereldbol  i guess you're not in the right channel
[15:48] <cfhowlett> wereldbol, this isn't a programming channel.  sorry.
[15:48] <wereldbol> prolly :)
[15:48] <wereldbol> it was worth a try :)
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> wereldbol  type this   /msg alis list blah
[15:48] <wereldbol> some idea what channel matches my problem ?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> !alis | wereldbol
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> wereldbol  what language are you coding in? C? bash? python? something else?
[15:49] <wereldbol> i asked #bash but er... they all lost they keyboard i think
[15:49] <wereldbol> bash
[15:50] <wereldbol> someone found his kb back in bash
[15:50] <wereldbol> i try his answer
[16:01] <fellayaboy> could someone help me out.  i install isc-dhcp-server configured the file to listen on eth0 and gave a subnet of <IP_ADDRESS> but no one is getting an ip address...not even the dhcp server itself is getting an ip address from its dhcp
[16:01] <r00t3d> hi guys
[16:02] <Abhijit> fellayaboy, from other lan machine can you ping to your dhcp server?
[16:02] <fellayaboy> if i set the ip addresses manually i can ping
[16:03] <Abhijit> ok
[16:03] <Abhijit> fellayaboy, any other conflicting dhcp serve running on same lan?
[16:03] <fellayaboy> well the server hasnt gotten an ip address yet
[16:03] <fellayaboy> im waiting for the dhcp server to give itself an ip addresss
[16:03] <fellayaboy> no other dhcp on the lan
[16:10] <Armadillos> fellayaboy: Does the server have 2 NICs?
[16:10] <fellayaboy> just one nic
[16:10] <Armadillos> And does that NIC have a static IP?
[16:10] <fellayaboy> no i havent given it a static ip
[16:11] <fellayaboy> i was hoping the dhcp could first give the nic an ip address and then go from there
[16:11] <Armadillos> That's why then.  A DHCP server has to be on a static IP.  You can't communicate to a DHCP server that doesn't have a IP
[16:11] <Armadillos> It can 't.
[16:11] <fellayaboy> of course
[16:11] <fellayaboy> couldve sworn the last time i did this the dhcp gave itself an ip address
[16:12] <Armadillos> It may of gotten it from another DHCP server
[16:13] <fellayaboy> so i have my server connected to a switch, no router is involved here... if i set the address to <IP_ADDRESS>/24 should i also set the gateway to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[16:14] <fellayaboy> set the gateway to <IP_ADDRESS> on the dhcp server itself
[16:15] <Armadillos> Yes
[16:16] <fellayaboy> in dhcp.conf should i set option routers 192.168
[16:16] <fellayaboy> <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:16] <Armadillos> If that's what your router is set to, then yes
[16:17] <fellayaboy> i have no router really..just this dhcp server connected to a switch...set the dhcp server to a static ip of <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[16:17] <fellayaboy> thinking router also means gateway
[16:24] <daniel_> Hi, I have  Ubuntu 14 and windows 7 on my lap top but I can find the drivers for all my boards to run on Windows 7. Is it possible to fix this using ubuntu?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> daniel_  you mean, use ubuntu to look on the internet for drivers?
[16:27] <notdaniel> so i picked up one of those usb flash drives that actually ssds with actual ssd controllers, with the intention of using it as a full install i carry around with me and test things out on different machines
[16:27] <daniel_> No, I tried that. I believe there is no drivers for this boards to run Windows 7. Using Ubuntu everything runs perfectly. I was wondering if I could use the ubuntu "drivers" to make my Windows 7 see my boards
[16:28] <notdaniel> but when installing 14.04.3, i cannot get it to boot on other machines, or even the one it was installed on once i've removed it.
[16:28] <notdaniel> even with uuids for drives on a gpt partition with grub installed onto the correct usb drive and with no other drives on the machine
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> daniel_  no, guess not
[16:28] <notdaniel> it's fine until i remove it and put it back in, or go to a different machine.
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> daniel_  windows recognizes only three OS's: Windows, Windows and Windows
[16:30] <daniel_> Yep, this is just a desperate measure. I don't know what else to do
[16:30] <daohiep> hey
[16:30] <FrankFromHR> notdaniel: Are you getting any kind of an error?
[16:31] <daohiep> yep
[16:31] <daohiep> #exit
[16:31] <OerHeks> daniel_, try ##windows ?
[16:31] <notdaniel> FrankFromHR: nope, install is fine, i can see GRUB on reboot, it's great. but once i remove it and attempt to use somewhere else, GRUB can no longer be found, i can't get the machine to see it at all
[16:31] <FrankFromHR> notdaniel: and you're sure it's installing grub to the USB drive?
[16:31] <notdaniel> FrankFromHR: and then even the machine it was installed on cannot see it anymore
[16:31] <daniel_> Thanks everyone for the attention
[16:32] <notdaniel> FrankFromHR: well, i know that it THINKS it is. i am always selecting the correct device. but then again, one issue i had yesterday was i tried running boot-repair and that prevented me from being able to boot from the internal drive already inside the machine
[16:33] <notdaniel> this usb drive always shows up as /dev/sda even if i'm not booting from it, but shouldnt it not matter with uuids anyway?
[16:33] <notdaniel> i did an automatic uefi install on gpt to make sure it would use uuids and that i wasnt screwing up partitioning
[16:33] <FrankFromHR> notdaniel: You might want to try disabling the internal drive and then doing a fresh install to the USB disk, then configured it to use UUIDs for the partitions..
[16:34] <notdaniel> ive done that
[16:34] <notdaniel> i did it on machines with no otehr HDs
[16:34] <FrankFromHR> notdaniel: hmm
[16:34] <notdaniel> still same issue once removing this install drive
[16:34] <pokergod> I need to edit a video clip .. it's 3 minutes long, I want to isolate the car accident.  What's the best software to edit videos with on ubuntu 15.04
[16:34] <notdaniel> which is weird, it totally does reboot fine until i remove it and try elsewhere and come back
[16:34] <cfhowlett> pokergod, no such thing as best.  openshot is pretty much point and click
[16:35] <FrankFromHR> notdaniel: That's really weird.. I wonder if the SSD controller is doing something strange with UUIDs..
[16:35] <notdaniel> pokergod: try shotcut or pitivi
[16:35] <Melio> when i try to access a usb thumbdrive. it just lights up and it won't mount
[16:35] <Melio> any suggestions?
[16:35] <somsip> pokergod: avconv will extract a segment of video easily
[16:35] <mcphail> Melio: is it formatted? Have you checked dmesg?
[16:36] <notdaniel> FrankFromHR: it's possible. i've definitely done portable installs on non-ssd flash drives using uuids and it's been fine, excepting the fact that is's on a flash drive
[16:36] <Melio> i can check dmesg
[16:36] <pokergod> thank you
[16:37] <Melio> it see's it
[16:37] <dkessel> i would like to use the 3.13 kernel from trusty in my vivid installation. is that possible?
[16:37] <FrankFromHR> notdaniel: Are you plugging it into the same USB port after removing it?
[16:37] <NetworkingPro> anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot files created by a network connection?
[16:37] <Melio> mcphail it's showing up in dmesg as a usb drive
[16:38] <x4w3> where can i change default init level in ubuntu, please? from 5 to 3, like a server.
[16:38] <x4w3> /etc/inittab not exists
[16:39] <WollyOx> I just tried to recover my system from an image i made using part image, but it is not working and i think i am in a lot of trouble. When i try to recover the image i get the message "The partition is to small to be restored: Original partition size:........156814540800 bytes Destination partition size:.....156342681600 bytes"
[16:40] <Melio> ok here's my dmesg, why isnt unbuntu automounting this. http://pastebin.com/kDEgWQeN
[16:40] <WollyOx> i dont think my partition has changed in size, i havent changed the parition size. maybe the file is currupt. What is my best course of action, this backup is very important to me.
[16:41] <OerHeks> Melio, check fdisk -l # is this exfat ?
[16:41] <TJ-> notdaniel: I wonder, is the USB device using usb_modeswitch to flip the device into SSD mode? hat would explain why it can't be seen after a cold reboot
[16:41] <Melio> ok
[16:41] <Vespero> Hey, I've got a custom Unity .desktop file that I made to launch various PDF files easily, but I can't figure out how to make it so I can right-click the icon and switch between open windows (like I can with Chrome)
[16:42] <Vespero> I guess it has to do with the launcher icon not being associated with evince?
[16:42] <mcphail> Melio: can you mount /dev/sdc1 manually? is it an exfat drive?
[16:43] <tgm4883> x4w3: I've not tried to do that, but I wonder if it's as simple as telling lightdm not to start at boot
[16:43] <Melio> mcphail, i doubt it. I don't know what format this is. it's probably a ubuntu install iso
[16:43] <Melio> I'll mount it manually see what happens
[16:43] <mcphail> ok
[16:45] <Melio> hmm since it doesnt know what FS it is
[16:45] <Melio> i'm guessing this is unformatted
[16:45] <mcphail> Melio: or exfat
[16:45] <Melio> how can i tell
[16:45] <Melio> try mounting it exfat
[16:45] <Melio> is that even a mount option?
[16:46] <mcphail> Melio: I think you need to install some fuse driver for exfat to work. No idea, really. I just reformat them
[16:46] <mcphail> Melio: if you don't have anything important on the drive, format it to something sensible
[16:46] <x4w3> tgm4883: i uninstall Xorg, lightgdm, gdm and all relationed with X with --purge for example libX11.* and system/init continue charging X and blocking my runleve 3 :).
[16:47] <Melio> format it with what?
[16:47] <Melio> gparted?
[16:47] <mcphail> Melio: that would be fine
[16:47] <notdaniel> TJ: i am not sure how to find that out, but i'll check
[16:48] <notdaniel> FrankFromHR: sometimes yes, somtimes no. one machine has crappy usb ports so i switch it, but on other machines yeah, same problem
[16:48] <Melio> ok formatting it ext3
[16:48] <notdaniel> FrankFromHR: shoudn't that not matter with uuids though
[16:48] <tgm4883> x4w3: oh, you do it in grub  http://askubuntu.com/questions/479468/how-do-i-start-unity-manually-upon-boot
[16:48] <mcphail> !runlevel | x4w3
[16:48] <Melio> hmm, i want to take images to a printer
[16:48] <Melio> i might need to format this vfat or something generic the printer software can read
[16:49] <Vespero> How do I make a .desktop file list currently opened windows in the right-click menu, I guess is what I'm asking
[16:49] <mcphail> Melio: yep
[16:49] <TJ-> notdaniel: start the PC from a live ISO, or a regular installation. monitor the kernel log ("tail -f /var/log/kern.log") and insert the USB device. Look for messages that indicate the device appears under an initial USB vendor:product ID and then changes to another
[16:50] <alket-web> are there intel driver available to download for 14.04 ?
[16:50] <Vespero> Nevermind, I fixed it (changing the gnome-open commands to evince worked)
[16:51] <maniacoDpr> is the kubuntu 15.04 good for notebooks (old). Thx
[16:51] <maniacoDpr> ??
[16:51] <FrankFromHR> notdaniel: It shouldn't, but maybe it's something happening with the usb controller.
[16:51] <Melio> hmm. i'll format it ntfs
[16:51] <notdaniel> TJ-: ok i'll do that now. it doesnt matter if the flash drive in question has ubuntu on it, right? i reformatted it but should still activate the same way
[16:51] <Melio> cause fat3 errors
[16:51] <OerHeks> alket-web, intel is standard supported in the kernel.
[16:51] <SimplySeth> when creating a local repo, what directory path is the installer looking for ? /ubuntu/? or /dists/?  thanks
[16:51] <WollyOx> Could someone help me identify partition numbers 2,4,5. i am unsure of what they are and how i can find more info about them: http://pastebin.com/CrMNM7Gk
[16:51] <alket-web> OerHeks: but intel releases some new updates as third party
[16:51] <mcphail> maniacoDpr: give it a try. If you need something lighter it is easy to switch
[16:52] <mcphail> maniacoDpr: no pm please
[16:52] <TJ-> notdaniel: correct
[16:52] <maniacoDpr> ok, sorry
[16:53] <mcphail> maniacoDpr: no problem. The beauty of ubuntu is, if you don't like it, all you have lost is the half-hour it takes to install
[16:54] <maniacoDpr> mcphail: that's true
[16:54] <mcphail> maniacoDpr: and if one desktop manager is too heavy, you can switch to another. A lot of people recommend lubuntu. I have never tried it
[16:55] <x4w3> tgm4883 mcphail i configurated grub with text and console modes and without quiet splash (i don't know if it's important comment line and not leave empty GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""), i will try repair grub, or use upstart instead of systemv
[16:55] <mcphail> maniacoDpr: but you can change kubuntu to lubuntu with a simple command
[16:55] <notdaniel> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/eePSpYMG
[16:55] <notdaniel> so that looks like a yes
[16:55] <maniacoDpr> mcphail: how?
[16:55] <ndh> I hate Miggers
[16:56] <notdaniel> or not actually?
[16:56] <OerHeks> !ot | ndh
[16:56] <mcphail> maniacoDpr: "sudo apt-get install whateverotherdesktopyouwant", log out and log back in to the other
[16:56] <Pici> OerHeks: we don't want that crap in !ot either
[16:56] <TJ-> notdaniel: that's a straight-forward USB Mass Storage device
[16:56] <OerHeks> Pici, sorry, i should have used !language or !coc
[16:57] <maniacoDpr> mcphail: aha, ok! Sorry, i am new with linux. and  i have used a cople of times. and now i want to learn more. thx for your time :-)
[16:57] <loa> why some windows don't remeber their size and position.
[16:57] <TJ-> notdaniel: the other idea that occurred to me was if it's installed as UEFI but all the other PCs and the default boot on the same PC is BIOS
[16:57] <loa> can i fix this?
[16:57] <mcphail> maniacoDpr: enjoy!
[16:57] <loa> for example gnome terminal, steam...
[16:57] <reisio> loa: remember after what?
[16:58] <loa> reisio, after i change them.
[16:58] <loa> reisio, for example i want terminal fullscreen
[16:58] <notdaniel> TJ-: most definitely all the machines in question are uefi, and it also doesnt explain why the machine i use to install it cannot do so either after removing and coming back
[16:58] <reisio> so you want to load in the same place each time despite having moved them?
[16:58] <mcphail> loa: steam is a "unique" piece of software. It will always do its own thing. It doesn't follow normal window management rules
[16:59] <reisio> you can force anything you like of course
[16:59] <loa> mcphail, ok... go away steam... what about default terminal app?
[16:59] <reisio> with devilspie, or wmctrl, or other things
[16:59] <loa> i think i tried devilspie already.
[16:59] <mcphail> loa: not sure. I'm not at an ubuntu box just now to check but I think it opens in 80-column mode by default
[17:00] <notdaniel> TJ-: i can try it without to be safe i suppose? it'll still do uefi as long as it's gpt yeah
[17:00] <notdaniel> er, uuids
[17:00] <mcphail> loa: there may be a flag to open it fullscreen
[17:01] <mcphail> loa: I suppose 80-column mode is what most people expect when they open a terminal
[17:02] <loa> mcphail, it starts exactly like this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2015.08.13-20%3A02%3A12.png
[17:03] <mcphail> loa: I can't access that link from this machine, unfortunately.
[17:05] <SimplySeth> when creating a local repo, what directory path is the installer looking for ? /ubuntu/? or /dists/?  thanks
[17:05] <mcphail> loa: I'm guessing it will be a default 80-column window. You can try changing the default profile as that may have an option for fullscreen
[17:05] <cxd13> what program can i install that will let me change DNS servers through GUI in mate?
[17:05] <OerHeks> loa, the size in rows/colomns can be set in preferences > profile, not the position AFAIK
[17:05] <maniacoDpr> ok. The kubuntu 15.04 doesn't rulez in my CompaqMini :_( the install is trapped
[17:06] <loa> reisio, ok... thx for devilspie... i set it to maximize it, verticaly and horizontaly.
[17:06] <reisio> loa: gj
[17:08] <Cs123> Hello!   Can you recommend some package & tool for ubuntu to get started with video (stream) mofication project? C# / C++  Where I might find support?
[17:09] <loa> Cs123, what mean "mofication"?
[17:09] <Abhijit> Cs123, ffmpeg?
[17:09] <Cs123> I'd like to take live feed from web-cam, and filter some high values out for example...
[17:09] <reisio> guessing modification
[17:10] <reisio> Cs123: probably #ffmpeg
[17:11] <x4w3> exists chkconfig in ubuntu?
[17:12] <Cs123> reisio: thanks - but not packed video, but live feed from my web-cam, which I modify and show on the screen..
[17:12] <ishitaka> I have a question why do i not get but 3 things under system in the software center?
[17:12] <reisio> Cs123: #ffmpeg
[17:12] <reisio> x4w3: ask apt-file
[17:12] <Pici> x4w3: no
[17:12] <reisio> ishitaka: looking for something else?
[17:12] <loa> x4w3, update-rc.d
[17:12] <Cs123> ok, THanks, I'll look into it..
[17:13] <ishitaka> Im looking for nmap and other programs and its not allowing me to downlaod them because they are not showing up?
[17:13] <x4w3> loa: i use it, tq
[17:14] <loa> can somebody explain me about initramfs scripts. I create one scripts in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-top and when i run update-initramfs -u i see that my script executes in my current environment, why it is happen?
[17:15] <loa> for example i write in that script echo 1 > /tmp/test.txt and when i run update-initramfs -u i see that file appear in /tmp/
[17:16] <reisio> ishitaka: how're you looking?
[17:16] <ishitaka> All of the normal programs that you download are not there under the Software center how do i get them to show up? because my other computer they show up? Any help guys and gals?
[17:16] <ishitaka> Through the Ubuntu Software Center icon gui
[17:17] <telboon> ishitaka: if you're looking for nmap, i installed it using sudo apt-get install nmap
[17:17] <telboon> ishitaka: type that in terminal
[17:17] <ishitaka> it wont let me
[17:17] <telboon> what did it show?
[17:17] <SchrodingersScat> I have a runaway rsync process, kill -9 does nothing, what do I do?
[17:18] <ishitaka> invalid operation nmap
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> oh, it ended, nvm.
[17:18] <telboon> you missed the "install"
[17:18] <Abhijit> ishitaka, first do sudo apt-get update
[17:18] <telboon> sudo apt-get install nmap
[17:19] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: :)
[17:30] <Dark_cloud> Hey how to run gcc on linux
[17:30] <Dark_cloud> any command
[17:30] <Abhijit> Dark_cloud, gcc test.c
[17:36] <MANNYLNJ> Hello, I have a  friend  with a laptop that has a failing hard drive.  I want to run ubuntu on it from a flash  drive but it is slow  . Dmesg shows the drive errors ,  how do I make it ignore the failing  drive?
[17:37] <Johnny_Linux> take the drive out
[17:38] <MANNYLNJ> Johnny_linux I can't some  moron super glued  the drive  cover  on
[17:38] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[17:39] <Johnny_Linux> make the bios boot to usb drive 1rst order
[17:40] <MANNYLNJ> Johnny_linux I am doing  that.  Ubuntu is seeing  the hard drive and trying to mount it
[17:40] <Johnny_Linux> cut the cord
[17:40] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[17:41] <Johnny_Linux> long shot, allow disc utility fix errors
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> SchrodingersScat  use rsync --progress to know how much time remains
[17:43] <MANNYLNJ> Johnny_linux  is there a way from the live USB drive I made to remove  Ata support
[17:44] <Johnny_Linux> not sure
[17:44] <fellayaboy> for my dhcp server i keep getting "no subnet declaration for eth0"  my dhcp server is just a simple laptop connected to a layer 2 switch(no router) & no dns server.... could someone give me a proper configuration
[17:44] <Johnny_Linux> just break the glue sel and take it out
[17:44] <Johnny_Linux> seal
[17:44] <reisio> MANNYLNJ: yes, but why
[17:45] <MANNYLNJ> Reisio  to stop ubuntu from trying to access a failing  drive that can not be removed.  Trying to run ubuntu from a flash drive
[17:45] <Armadillos> fellayaboy: What does your /etc/network/interfaces file show?
[17:46] <regedit> how does this work http://superuser.com/a/271319 and how can i make it work if i cant run mkdir (read only filesystem) ?
[17:46] <fellayaboy> auto lo; iface lo inet loopback Armadillos
[17:46] <Vespero> I'm messing around with unity launcher shortcuts and I want a custom action name to be indented. Anyone have an idea how to work this out?
[17:46] <Armadillos> fellayaboy: Do you not have anything in there for eth0?
[17:46] <fellayaboy> do i need to declare the values for eth0 on there?
[17:46] <fellayaboy> Armadillos, well im using the GUI. the network manager
[17:47] <ioria> no
[17:47] <Armadillos> network manager and dhcp are not going to play well together
[17:47] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: weird thing was --progress wasn't giving me anything, was reading from a webdav so I'm thinking it took a performance hit, just working with the remote fs probably.
[17:47] <fellayaboy> ahh tahts the freaking crap then Armadillos
[17:47] <Vespero> Okay, spamming the word spacer (not space) works
[17:48] <fellayaboy> i should've went with ubuntu server 15.04 instead of desktop... well are there any configurations i must do to knock off network manager
[17:48] <Armadillos> fellayaboy: Here's mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12072927/
[17:48] <Myhro> I have a machine where update-grub takes 5-10 mins to run. Any ideas on how to debug what step is making it take so long?
[17:49] <Armadillos> fellayaboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[17:50] <Cybermonky> Guten Abend
[17:50] <fellayaboy> Armadillos, thanks
[17:50] <Armadillos> Yep
[17:51] <Cybermonky> Weiß eventuell jemand warum das Paket "Livestreamer" nicht mehr in den Paketquellen vorhanden ist? Nutze Xubuntu Trusty und bin der Meinung das da auch Livestreamer in den Paketquellen vorhanden war...
[17:52] <demhlyr> Cybermonky: https://github.com/chrippa/livestreamer unten bei Quickstart schauen, livestreamer kann man per python pip installieren
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> !de
[17:53] <Cybermonky> Danke demhlyr
[17:54] <stacks88> by running ubuntu for server only, no gui, is my box sending any information or data to ubuntu? and if so, where can i change this so it sends no information
[17:56] <Cybermonky> demhlyr: Danke nochmal :-)
[17:56] <Armadillos> stacks88: No.
[17:56] <mmmax> could someone please tell me what version of the kernel is the latest version of the mainstream ubuntu using? with the system fully apt-get upgraded
[17:56] <Cybermonky> ups
[17:56] <demhlyr> cybermonky: kein problem, schaue selbst damit ab und zu streams
[18:01] <skoude> ANybody had problems with canonical distribution that landscape fails on Generate juju metadata (in 98% of installation of openstack).
[18:06] <tgm4883> mmmax: you can get that info from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:07] <Senji> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_LxJWHnjSI
[18:09] <mmmax> tgm4883: oh brilliant, thank you very much!
[18:10] <Dark_cloud> Using GCC compiler is so hard to do and so lengthy work instead using Turbo C is better any suggestion
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Dark_cloud  suggestion, apart from the one you just gave?
[18:13] <Dark_cloud> MonkeyDust just kidding want to grab attention of user Although i have few hands on gcc so i have to know quite well
[18:15] <snowkidind> ok i had a debian server but i want a fresh start. I have a maching with a brand new ssd and have concluded that i want to try ubuntu. Thing is i want both server and desktop so I am not quite sure which one to begin with
[18:16] <tgm4883> snowkidind: well, server and desktop are really the same. The desktop just has additional software (like a DE)
[18:16] <tgm4883> snowkidind: at the base, they are both the same
[18:16] <snowkidind> ok so i still have to put on apache etc
[18:17] <snowkidind> why would someone get the server an not the desktop?
[18:17] <tgm4883> snowkidind: because most people don't run a graphical environment on a server
[18:17] <snowkidind> reasonable.
[18:18] <tgm4883> snowkidind: the server installer does allow you to install some server apps (such as apache), but you can install those later as well
[18:18] <tgm4883> snowkidind: what's your reason for puting a graphical environment on there?
[18:18] <snowkidind> basically setting up LAMP but i need to send emails and my isp blocks port 25. hoping for better luch than deb
[18:19] <snowkidind> i rarely turn it on but i occasionally do
[18:19] <snowkidind> i look at my logfiles with it mostly
[18:19] <snowkidind> the monitor for the machine helps as a motivation as well
[18:20] <tgm4883> snowkidind: I'd install server, then install a graphical environment (but not a *buntu-desktop package) then just start it when necessary
[18:21] <snowkidind> you think it weighs that heavily on a development server?
[18:22] <snowkidind> its not getting many external requests at all
[18:22] <tgm4883> snowkidind: no, but I like to keep production and staging as close as I can (I suppose I wouldn't actually install a graphical enviroment there, but instead just SSH in and access what I need from the command line)
[18:23] <snowkidind> im using appledouble most of the time
[18:23] <tgm4883> yea I don't know what that is
[18:24] <snowkidind> just a way to have the linux directory structiure on my regular machine without terminal - right in the finder
[18:25] <snowkidind> so i edit the files on my mac software (im a bbedit / xcode guy) and save directly to the server
[18:25] <snowkidind> without ftp
[18:34] <reezy> exit
[18:47] <tom30> Speak Spanish???
[18:47] <Pici> !es | tom30
[18:48] <xubuntu45d> thanks.
[18:48] <xubuntu45d> Hi. I'm wondering if anyone could help me with my wifi issue. My internet connection keeps disconnecting. Sometimes I just need to disable then re-enable wifi to get it to work. At other times I need to reboot it to get the wifi to work again.
[18:49] <reisio> maybe your wireless router is a big steaming pile
[18:49] <jhutchins> xubuntu45d: What's your signal strength?
[18:51] <Guest22787> hai newby here , just watching
[18:52] <anonymous> .test
[18:52] <ObrienDave> xubuntu45d, how far away is the router?
[18:55] <fabrizio_> Hi !
[19:06] <milp> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble with fstrim on my 425Gb ssd. It runs every boot through rc.local and every time it takes up around 15+ minutes and trims 100s of gigabytes. I just rebooted twice in row and it still trimmed 154.8 gigabyte. Could anyone help me with this issue please?
[19:06] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I want to install syslog-ng on my servers using puppet....Now I see that syslog-ng has a open bug with this since ano 2006 - cannot install syslog-ng because it has unmet dependencies ( syslog-ng : Depends: syslog-ng-core (>= 3.5.3), ....)
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> Danskmand  there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:08] <Danskmand> I can install syslog-ng by first installing syslog-ng-core and then install syslog-ng. But thats not easy in puppet....
[19:09] <elacheche_anis> Hello guys! I'm a heavy user of http://wiki.ubuntu.com and I need to automate adding some content to a specific wiki page.. Is there a way to script that?!
[19:09] <Danskmand> MonkeyDust: Okay, I'll ask there too (but if someone in here knows the answer, he's most welcome to answer ;-)
[19:10] <FrankFromHR> asd
[19:10] <pbx> elacheche_anis, personally i'd put "automated updates of public wiki pages" in the category of "if you should be doing this you should definitely be able to figure it out yourself"
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> FrankFromHR  you already said asd, it works, we see you
[19:11] <elacheche_anis> pbx, what's that supposed to mean! x)
[19:11] <FrankFromHR> MonkeyDust: just wondering if my session died again
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> FrankFromHR  use #test for that sort of thing
[19:12] <FrankFromHR> MonkeyDust: I'll get right on that..
[19:13] <pjotter> Was I still nver a tad too blue?
[19:13] <ObrienDave> is this "we support everything BUT ubuntu day?" ;P
[19:14] <pbx> elacheche_anis, i mean that there are all sorts of ways that kind of thing can go wrong and/or be abused. especially if somebody just hands you a script.
[19:15] <ObrienDave> AHEM, this is NOT wikipedia support
[19:15] <elacheche_anis> pbx, if someone "shares" a way with me I'll be sure to understand it before pushing it to "production" and I'll hack that code to meet my needs, that's for sure
[19:16] <UFO69> any one from Microsoft?
[19:16] <wileee> !topic | UFO69
[19:16] <UFO69> OK
[19:16] <FrankFromHR> ObrienDave: Wait, you mean this isn't #BestBuySupport ?
[19:16] <Pici> UFO69: probably not. If you're looking for Windows support, there is ##windows, but that doesn't have microsoft employees either.
[19:16] <UFO69> any Windows chanel?
[19:16] <wileee> UFO69, ##windows
[19:17] <UFO69> where can i buy new windows?
[19:17] <ObrienDave> home depot
[19:18] <FrankFromHR> ObrienDave: oh good, I had some questions about lag bolts..
[19:18] <wileee> UFO69, 'Heads Up' this is not a windows channel but ubuntu support.
[19:18] <FrankFromHR> UFO69: you can also probably buy windows from microsoft.com ... or Home Depot..
[19:18] <ObrienDave> FrankFromHR, unless there was a shift in the galactic space/time continuum, i don't think so ;P
[19:19] <UFO69> and how much cost new windows?
[19:20] <Jordan_U> UFO69: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Your next comment about Windows will earn you a ban.
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> UFO69  wrong channel
[19:20] <UFO69> OK
[19:20] <UFO69> this is microsoft chanel?
[19:21] <Jordan_U> UFO69: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> UFO69  stop
[19:24] <Pici> /70/70
[19:26] <Tynach> Bit of a strange problem here. Plymouth (boot splash) works fine, but TTYs are black/blank. I can type in TTYs and manage to log in, and I can send commands (which work; like 'sudo shutdown -r now'), but I can't see any of the text.
[19:27] <wileee> Tynach, Have you tweaked the resolution in grub, or in general?
[19:27] <Tynach> Upon further inspection, it's trying to use the 'vesafb' framebuffer. The kernel's config file indeed says that the vesafb kernel module is built into the kernel... But modprobe's modules.builtin does NOT list it.
[19:28] <Tynach> wileee, that was the first thing I tried. I also tried various combinations of the different things in /etc/default/grub.
[19:28] <wileee> Tynach, Ah, just curious, not an answer here is all.
[19:29] <Tynach> Such as different settings for GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX, as well as using nomodeset and video=stuff.
[19:29] <Tynach> It doesn't seem to want to even attempt to use uvesafb instead, which is a loadable kernel module (rather than statically built).
[19:30] <ioria> Tynach, nvidia ?
[19:30] <Tynach> AMD.
[19:31] <Tynach> Under the open source drivers, the same thing happens, except it takes a few seconds for the TTY, and then it shows up. Switching from one TTY to another has the same delay the first time, but afterward the switch is instant. So from TTY1 to TTY2, there's a delay, but going back to TTY1 is instant, and then from there back to TTY2 is instant.
[19:31] <Tynach> Under fglrx, they never actually show up.
[19:31] <Tynach> They DID show up under fglrx before the upgrade to 15.04.
[19:31] <ioria> Tynach, GRUB_TERMINAL=console is commented ?
[19:33] <Tynach> ioria, yes. That line is commented.
[19:33] <ioria> Tynach, and GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 ?
[19:34] <Tynach> No, I have it set to 1920x1080. Because that worked on 14.10.
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Tynach: If you're not using proprietary drivers then make sure that you're also not passing "nomodeset" as a kernel parameter.
[19:34] <Tynach> Jordan_U, I am using proprietary drivers.
[19:34] <Tynach> Jordan_U, I've also tried with and without nomodeset.
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Tynach: Have you tried with the open source drivers and without nomodeset? You can't use Kernel Mode Setting and the proprietary ATI drivers at the same time (at least not yet, with AMDGPU you will be able to and things will generally be a lot nicer).
[19:36] <Tynach> Jordan_U, I already answered that. I'll repost.
[19:36] <Tynach> Under the open source drivers, the same thing happens, except it takes a few seconds for the TTY, and then it shows up. Switching from one TTY to another has the same delay the first time, but afterward the switch is instant. So from TTY1 to TTY2, there's a delay, but going back to TTY1 is instant, and then from there back to TTY2 is instant.
[19:36] <ioria> Tynach, i'd try to uncomment the first and the second , restore the second to original value   sudo update-grub ...  and if it fails reverse it ...  but never occurred to me... so it's just an idea
[19:37] <Tynach> ioria, could you be more specific than 'the first and the second'?
[19:37] <ioria> Tynach, GRUB_TERMINAL=console  1°
[19:37] <ioria> Tynach, and GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480    2°
[19:39] <Tynach> ioria, I'll try that, but if it works, it's still not a solution. In 14.10, I was able to have a full 1920x1080 screen resolution in the TTYs, and even here in 15.04 Plymouth and Grub are able to use 1920x1080.
[19:40] <ioria> Tynach, i see
[19:41] <ope-> hey guys I have an acer R3-131T and i cant get ubuntu to boot the live usb.  I am not sure what the problem is
[19:41] <Jordan_U> Tynach: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" after booting with the open source drivers, and without "nomodeset".
[19:42] <Tynach> ioria, would 800x600 be acceptable as well, or should I stick with 640x480?
[19:42] <Tynach> Also, it might be worth noting that I have a dual-monitor setup.
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Tynach: Fair warning, I don't personally want to try to troubleshoot the case where you're using proprietary drivers, so making it work with the open drivers and KMS is what my goal is.
[19:43] <ioria> Tynach, see Jordan_U  comment
[19:43] <Tynach> Jordan_U, it already works fine with the open source drivers, minus a few seconds delay before the TTY shows up for the first time.
[19:44] <Jordan_U> Tynach: Ahh, when you said "Under the open source drivers, the same thing happens" I interpreted that to mean that with the open source drivers you also couldn't see any text when switching to a tty.
[19:45] <Tynach> Jordan_U, I suppose I shouldn't have said 'same thing happens', but rather, that the behavior is still different than it was in 14.10.
[19:45] <Tynach> Of course, back in 14.10, my card wasn't supported by the open source drivers. Only the closed source ones.
[19:45] <Tynach> R9 290X
[19:50] <OneM_Industries> How do I set the time that backups auto backup?
[19:55] <wileee> OneM_Industries, I forget the onboard apps name, but does'nt it have a preferences?
[19:56] <wileee> doesn
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  what do you use to backup?
[20:00]  * wileee turns on the cheezy waiting music
[20:01] <OneM_Industries> Sorry, got called away.
[20:01] <OneM_Industries> I use the backups utility, I think it is called deja dup.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  it looks like deja dup is not advanced or complicated enough to set specific times ... look for a differnet way to !backup
[20:05] <wileee> OneM_Industries, looks like MonkeyDust is correct there.
[20:06] <Joel> I turned mouse sensitivty all the way up in the UI, not fast enough, what next?
[20:06] <wileee> OneM_Industries, I used a 3rd party called timeshift as a test, worked nicely, good stuff in the ubuntu repos however.
[20:07] <wileee> Joel, Check out xset I use xset mouse 1 1 in the cli to set mine, that is a slow down command
[20:08] <wileee> # up is faster
[20:08] <wileee> Joel, man xset gives info
[20:10] <Joel> wileee, doesn't seem to make anything faster despite the values I pass it
[20:12] <wileee> Joel, Not sure beyond that, better help is in order here. ;)
[20:19] <joijmo> has anyone had success installing photoshop to ubuntu yet? can't seem to install the visual C++ 2008 exe
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> !wine | joijmo
[20:19] <k1l_> yes, see what wine appdb says about it
[20:20] <wileee> Joel, Testing it, first # is speed 2nd sensitivity, if that might help
[20:20] <ubuntiste-msakni> joijmo, I did that once, someone packaging an EXE for wine
[20:20] <ubuntiste-msakni> let me check my history
[20:20] <nikitha> hi, unable to install any windows applications under wine in ubuntu 15.04    its giving out  Runtime error 204 at 00CFXXXXX, any help or alternative to wine ?
[20:20] <wileee> nikitha, Some us playonlinux
[20:20] <OerHeks> nikitha, playonlinux is worth a try
[20:20] <wileee> use*
[20:21] <joijmo> I know how to use wine, I'm just unsuccessful in installing this particular file
[20:21] <joijmo> monkeydust
[20:22] <nikitha> joijmo: recent wine is issue, in past same windows applications ran ok, what a sudden change
[20:22] <joijmo> nikitha: hmm, so looks like they wrote more code to wine? :p more code = more bugs
[20:24] <nikitha> joijmo: its showing as game for playonlinux in ubuntu software centre
[20:24] <joijmo> nikitha: photoshop??
[20:25] <nikitha> joijmo: right now ms office
[20:25] <Jordan_U> joijmo: As the ubottu factoid stated, you should join #winehq for help installing Windows applications.
[20:27] <joijmo> thanks Jordan_U
[20:27] <Jordan_U> joijmo: You're welcome.
[20:27] <nikitha> Jordan_U: joijmo:  had  fired my query in #winehq  and here at same time
[20:58] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[20:59] <Umeaboy> I have a friend that bought a brand new laptop from Acer.
[20:59] <reisio> Umeaboy: neato
[21:00] <Umeaboy> It came preinstalled with Windows   8 and I have disabled Secure Boot, but the installation for Ubuntu 15.04 x86_64 doesn't work.
[21:01] <Umeaboy> It get to the dots  and as it loads the screen gets black.
[21:01] <Umeaboy> Windows works fine to boot into and use.
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: Do you know how to remove the "quiet" and "splash" kernel parementers when booting the LiveCD/USB?
[21:02] <Umeaboy> Yes, I did that.
[21:04] <Umeaboy> I'm not at home at the moment so can't investigate much.
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: Do you see messages at boot when you do? If so, what is the last message printed?
[21:04] <Umeaboy> Thou I saw an -110 error with the mmcblock
[21:04] <Umeaboy> I hope they don't matter,
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> Umeaboy  better come back when you have the laptop with you
[21:05] <Umeaboy> I'm using it now, but I'm at a fast food restaurant so I'll do more when I get home,
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: mmcblk generally refers to an SD card.
[21:06] <Umeaboy> Talk to ya later?
[21:06] <Umeaboy> Yes, it has a imbedded memory card instead of a HDD.
[21:06] <Umeaboy> Don't ask me why.
[21:07] <Umeaboy> embedded I mean.
[21:07] <Umeaboy> I'll be back within 30 minutes.
[21:07] <Umeaboy> Bye for now.
[21:11] <techshop> d
[21:21] <anna_> Wasn't it amazing?
[21:22] <reisio> yes
[21:22] <user1254> ls
[21:36] <tobyj> question: I'm setting up a server in vmware and I'm having some issues with networking
[21:36] <tobyj> I added a new network adapter, but ubuntu isn't detecting that as an interface
[21:37] <tobyj> not in ifconfig
[21:37] <surgy> hello
[21:37] <surgy> i need a suggestion on software. i want to play music with my keyboard :)
[21:38] <tobyj> http://puu.sh/jAxgQ/619c45f8e6.png this is in the output of lshw -C network
[21:38] <wafflejock> surgy: what version of ubuntu?
[21:38] <tobyj> how do I enable it?
[21:38] <surgy> wafflejock, kubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.19
[21:38] <wafflejock> surgy: vmpk package might be what you want
[21:38] <wafflejock> surgy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/vmpk
[21:39] <tobyj> if I try to bring it up it just says unknown interface eth1
[21:39] <tobyj> ...any help?
[21:39] <TechMonger> if i have 3 groups, A,B, and C. how do i give read and wright permissions to groups A and B and only read permissions to group C?
[21:40] <surgy> wafflejock, it looks that way but when you read the  discritpion it says "it doesnt produce any sound by itself."
[21:40] <TechMonger> i seem to only be able to change permisions for the group that owns the file
[21:40] <wafflejock> surgy: right you need qsynth to actually make the sounds
[21:40] <OerHeks> surgy, take a look at ubuntu-studio softwarelist https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[21:40] <wafflejock> surgy: midi works by just sending little messages of how long a key was pressed and what note it corresponds to and how quickly it was pressed (for real midi keyboards)
[21:41] <Jordan_U> TechMonger: By using ACLs rather than classic UNIX permissions.
[21:41] <wafflejock> surgy: if you get qsynth you also need to get a sound font file and load it in there
[21:41] <wafflejock> surgy: I just got done doing this with a real midi keyboard
[21:41] <TechMonger> Jordan_U, what is acl?
[21:41] <wafflejock> !acl | TechMonger
[21:41] <wafflejock> access control lists
[21:41] <tobyj> ?
[21:41] <wafflejock> TechMonger: it gives you more granular control over multiple users and group permissions on files
[21:42] <TechMonger> hmm
[21:42] <Jordan_U> TechMonger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[21:42] <surgy> wafflejock, OerHeks i like a lot of those packages in the studio distro.... can i just install all of the ubuntu studio programs without messing up my kubuntu install?
[21:42] <TechMonger> oh wow...
[21:42] <TechMonger> permissions are such a pain
[21:43] <wafflejock> surgy: yeah I considered this too, not sure if you can have the packages from ubuntu-studio installed without messing things up since jackd and pulseaudio seem to have some amount of conflict (there is a package that's supposed to resolve this but I ended up needing to manually kill pulseaudio or jackd to switch)
[21:43] <OerHeks> surgy, sure, i personally use ubuntustudio-photography package, gimp darktable and such
[21:43] <wafflejock> surgy: both pulseaudio and jackd want to take control of the audio hardware, by default you're using pulseaudio but I needed jackd to hook the keyboard up to qsynth
[21:43] <surgy> wafflejock, yeah thats too much....i just want to mess around and im a little burnt from the effort it took to setup my graphics tablet lol
[21:44] <tobyj> is there anyone here that can help with my problem?
[21:44] <wafflejock> surgy: yeah took me a few hours of fiddling... lots of fun with a real keyboard though... the sound font files have tons of fun noises
[21:45] <Jordan_U> tobyj: If anyone watching the channel can help, they will.
[21:45] <zhxk> hello, how to monitor every ports traffic
[21:45] <wafflejock> zhxk: can use wireshark or tcpdump, depends on what you're trying to monitor...maybe ntop
[21:46] <zhxk> wafflejock, can i manage the traffic?
[21:46] <surgy> wafflejock, yeah if i had a real keyboard id definately be down...... but i was just gonna mess around.... i suppose i can wait. i was just hoping to install a package or two and start playing
[21:47] <wafflejock> surgy: yeah it's not a terrible amount of work really just a matter of getting a few tools in place to help connect the midi note generating thing to the part that synthesizes the sounds, but yeah not just a single package install thing was more reading than doing for me
[21:48] <wafflejock> zhxk: can you be more specific about how you want to manage it? I'm not super familiar with network management tools available in terms of blocking sites... I know you can configure iptables to block connections in or out but there might be something simpler/higher someone else here knows of
[21:50] <wafflejock> surgy: maybe could do a LiveUSB of ubuntu studio
[21:52] <arooni> hey everyone; anyone use radiotray here ?  i'm on ubuntu 14.04 and i cant get radiotray's bookmarks.xml to be edited.  any ideas on how to fix?  i make changes but nothing happens
[21:52] <k1l_> arooni: i did use the right-click menu from radiotray
[21:53] <wafflejock> arooni: typically config files are read at startup are you restarting the program after edits?
[21:53] <arooni> k1l_, i think thats gonna hve to bwe the way to do it; wish there was a way to edit bookmarks.xml
[21:53] <k1l_> arooni: did you restart it? try to start it from a terminal and see if it says an error there
[21:54] <arooni> i even removed the bookmarks.xml from /usr/share/radiotray  and it still works.  i also tried grepping for a new menu item i added via the app and i cant find where radiotray is writing to
[21:54] <arooni> yes i tried restarting
[21:55] <surgy> wafflejock, maybe
[21:55] <arooni> its obviously ignoring the  /usr/share/radiotray/bookmarks.xml
[21:55] <k1l_> ~/.local/share/radiotray/bookmarks.xml
[21:56] <k1l_> arooni: did you try the "reload bookmarks" setting?
[21:56] <xrisk> hi people can you tell me how to get the latest version of g++ ?
[21:57] <tobyj> Problem solved
[21:57] <arooni> a ha!
[21:57] <arooni> so why was there a /usr/share/radiotray directory AND a  ~/.local/share/radiotray directory
[21:57] <arooni> for the same app?
[21:57] <arooni> with seemingly identical files
[21:57] <wafflejock> arooni: typically user settings vs system wide
[21:57] <arooni> so apps typically look in .local or /usr/ for config settings?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> xrisk: What is your end goal?
[21:57] <wafflejock> arooni: so shared settings are used if user specific isn't found
[21:58] <k1l_> arooni: it uses the users setting in the users home.
[21:58] <arooni> so if i want to make app config changes
[21:58] <arooni> i should always look first in ~/.local
[21:58] <xrisk> Jordan_U: I installed Ubuntu 15.04 andthe version of g++ is has does not support some of the new C++ features.
[21:58] <wafflejock> arooni: yeah ~/.config or ~/.local somewhere in your home folder will be user specific settings
[21:58] <k1l_> arooni: its a user setting. so its in the users home.
[21:58] <Jordan_U> xrisk: What features specifically are you missing?
[21:58] <arooni> didnt see any of ~.local/  in dpkg --listfiles radiotray
[21:58] <wafflejock> arooni: because each user has their own home
[21:58] <arooni> im the only one who uses this machine
[21:59] <arooni> but i guess that doesnt matter
[21:59] <wafflejock> arooni: yeah it can create those files dynamically
[21:59] <xrisk> Jordan_U: For example, the `auto` iterator.
[21:59] <k1l_> arooni: if "your mother" on your pc wants other channels to be in radiotray it doesnt work with only one config file :)
[21:59] <arooni> learning something new every day
[21:59] <wafflejock> arooni: lots of programs will make a config for the user if one isn't present the first time they run
[21:59] <wafflejock> or anytime they run
[22:01] <arooni> bingo!
[22:01] <arooni> moved the bookmarks folder over to ~/local/blah and it worked great
[22:01] <arooni> thanks folks
[22:01] <hydral> couocu
[22:02] <hydral> Our conversation it is crypted,?
[22:02] <Cebot|work> hi. anyone around using a displaylink based dockingstation?
[22:02] <wileee> hydral, nope
[22:03] <wileee> Cebot|work, If you need support, share the issue with the channel.
[22:04] <hydral> IT's very psychedelisk
[22:04] <Jordan_U> xrisk: According to https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html , that feature was added in gcc 4.4, and thus should be avalable in the g++ 4.9.2 shipped in Ubuntu 15.04. What problem are you having with the auto keyword?
[22:05] <OerHeks> hydral, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:05] <Cebot|work> wileee, i'm just curious if someone got it to work yet. displaylink offers only a version for their drivers tested on ubuntu. i'm currently on suse, but tried kubuntu live cd and installed the driver in the live session, but also no luck...
[22:05] <wafflejock> hydral: this room is just for support questions/answers about ubuntu, if you want to just chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <xrisk> Jordan_U: i will give you a snippet please wait
[22:06] <wileee> Cebot|work, Not sure myself, specific hardware is generally best to state here. ;)
[22:06] <Jordan_U> xrisk: Note that you may need to add -std=c++0x to your g++ invocation.
[22:06] <xrisk> Jordan_U: Why is that?
[22:07] <wileee> Cebot|work, Does the unit show in lsusb?
[22:07] <Jordan_U> xrisk: Because gcc doesn't default to supporting the latest C and C++ standards because otherwise people might unknowingly start depending on non portable features.
[22:07] <xrisk> Jordan_U: I will try that one moment :)
[22:07] <Cebot|work> wileee, yes it does
[22:08] <wileee> Cebot|work, What's it called there?
[22:08] <Cebot|work> i'd be happy already if i could get it to work inside virtualbox with a win7 guest. cuz that is what i need it for. but the windows driver doesn't support the virtualbox gfx driver...
[22:08] <Cebot|work> wileee, sec, i'll check
[22:09] <Cebot|work> wileee, Bus 004 Device 004: ID 17e9:4306 DisplayLink
[22:11] <k1l_> Cebot|work: is this about a smartphone?
[22:11] <wileee> Cebot|work, I think that is key info, with a quick google I see kit, in multiple devices I think, certainly helpful here.
[22:11] <wileee> it*
[22:12] <wileee> k1l_, A dock
[22:12] <k1l_> a smartphone dock?
[22:12] <wileee> I think a computer, but that is a good question
[22:12] <Cebot|work> k1l_, a usb3 display dock
[22:16] <Cebot|work> wileee, i'm not sure what you mean with you see kit?
[22:16] <wileee> Cebot|work, typo see 't'
[22:16] <wileee> it*
[22:17] <Cebot|work> wileee, i went by the install instructions for ubuntu (on the kubuntu live cd as well as on suse) provided by displaylink.com
[22:18] <wileee> Cebot|work, Commonly we see hardware in many devices, so that lsusb is pertinent it alone hits on google.
[22:18] <wileee> Cebot|work, Sure, I'm not the best help here all I can do is google, better for knowing helpers is all. ;)
[22:19] <k1l_> Cebot|work: you got something like a install script or docs?
[22:20] <wileee> Cebot|work, Off topic, but did you know the large hadron  runs suse?
[22:20] <k1l_> Cebot|work: you are on a live ubuntu?
[22:21] <Cebot|work> wileee, but then, these dockingstations suck big time anyway. even on windows they cause a lot of problems for our colleagues. wish there were any decent (as in reliable for daily office work with lots of web and smaller gfx projects) that is not based on a displaylink chip and has native linux support too
[22:21] <k1l_> Cebot|work: because from my understanding of http://www.displaylink.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29  this seems to work.
[22:21] <Cebot|work> wileee, i remember to have heard about it
[22:21] <Johnny_Linux> suse halt
[22:22] <Cebot|work> k1l_, displaylink.com has the installer. run it with --noexec --keep to extract the package and look at the install script
[22:23] <Cebot|work> k1l_, not on kubuntu live anymore. tried it the way the described it, didn't get it to work (spent days on trying to get it to work on suse already)
[22:23] <k1l_> Cebot|work: i would suggest you make a new thread in that forum i just linked so the specialists could have a look
[22:23] <k1l_> Cebot|work: well, i would try a real ubuntu install.
[22:25] <Cebot|work> k1l_, not an option. i'm quite happy to got everything working as i need it now, except for the 3rd monitor.
[22:35] <bdjd> Hey guys. The wireless networks just disappeared on my computer and I can't even enable/disable wireless networks. Can anyone help me fix this?
[22:36] <_Anna> Hi. I need help from libreOffice users.
[22:36] <_Anna> [15:09] CuriousAboutSL: I'd like to uncheck the "data>sort>options>Range contains column labels" option and keep it unchecked. How? After I click OK it returns to being checked.
[22:37] <bdjd> Anyone? I'm kind of desperate
[22:39] <wileee> bdjd, THe channel, not me, needs a release and desktop to start with usually.
[22:39] <wileee> any background leading to this as well
[22:40] <bdjd> Thanks. Ubuntu 15.04. I was writing a program in android studio. The computer just froze and so I restarted it.
[22:40] <bdjd> Now I have no wireless.
[22:41] <wileee> bdjd, This the unity desktop, or is there an android de
[22:41] <bdjd> It says I have wlan0 doesn't exist
[22:41] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: Is it a usb adapter?
[22:41] <bdjd> There's an android ide
[22:41] <bdjd> Yes
[22:42] <wileee> thanks, hopefully that will get some interst
[22:42] <bdjd> Thanks again
[22:42] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: Move it to a different usb port perhaps?
[22:42] <bdjd> I tried that
[22:42] <bdjd> And I got a different wifi usb adapter
[22:42] <bdjd> No change
[22:43] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: hmm
[22:44] <bdjd> Tried restarting  network manager and restarting the network service
[22:44] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: might want to check dmesg and see if it registered that it picked up a device
[22:44] <bdjd> They work. But to no avail
[22:44] <bdjd> Frankfromhr bow do I do that?
[22:45] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: you can do dmesg | grep -i usb from the terminal
[22:46] <bdjd> K
[22:46] <bdjd> You want me to tell you it's output?
[22:46] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: Sure, do you know how to use pastebin ?
[22:47] <bdjd> I cant. The computer won't connect to the Internet and I'm on a smartphone lol.
[22:47] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: hah right
[22:47] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: pm me whatever looks relevent so we don't spam the channel
[22:47] <bdjd> Okay
[22:48] <wileee> FrankFromHR, The wants to see help.
[22:48] <wileee> channel*
[22:49] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: paste in the channel then
[22:49] <bdjd> Frankfromhr I actually cant...it's like 200 lines long lol
[22:50] <bdjd> Maybe yell me what to look for?
[22:50] <FrankFromHR> k try this, pull out the wifi adapter
[22:50] <FrankFromHR> then try tail -f /var/log/dmesg and then plug in the adapter and see if you see anything that says stuff about a new usb device.
[22:51] <Umeaboy> Jordan_U: Back.
[22:51] <bdjd> Nothing about wifi
[22:51] <herrkin> hi community, I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu server, I chose to encrypt the partition, now it asks me to input the passphrase everytime I start the system, is it normal?
[22:51] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: anything about a usb device?
[22:51] <reisio> herrkin: kinda pointless otherwise
[22:52] <Umeaboy> I can tell you the last row in a while.
[22:52] <bdjd> Yes. Over - current condition
[22:52] <herrkin> I think I did it once on ubuntu desktop it only asked me to input login info.
[22:52] <reisio> that's what disk encryption is for, protection from those with physical access (that are also too ignorant to wait until you've unlocked it)
[22:52] <bdjd> Then on the latest command it says eth0 link is not ready
[22:53] <herrkin> what I wanted by encrypting the partition is just not to let the owners grab the files. if I do that I would have to give the passphrase to them, so there is no point on having it in my case.
[22:53] <bdjd> Frankfromhr did you see what I said?
[22:54] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: do lshw -C network does it show you anything about wireless interface?
[22:55] <bdjd> No
[22:55] <bdjd> Frankfromhr no
[22:55] <bdjd> It says ethernet interface
[22:55] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: k type lsusb does that have anything in the list?
[22:56] <bdjd> Nothing about wireless.
[22:56] <bdjd> Hm
[22:57] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: So it's not being picked up at all
[22:57] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: So something else is probably going on
[22:58] <bdjd> I'm trying different usb ports
[22:58] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: What else do you have plugged in?
[22:58] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: keyboard, mouse and ?
[22:59] <bdjd> Mouse is plugged in and running just fine
[22:59] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: You can also take a picture and post a link to it from imgur.com.
[22:59] <Radix|DR> Hello is there any good ways to really optimize your ram
[23:00] <bdjd> Frankfromhr mous, keyboard, phone
[23:00] <bdjd> Wifi
[23:01] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: try disconnecting the phone and reboot with the wifi plugged in..
[23:02] <reisio> Radix|DR: exploit you mean?
[23:02] <Jordan_U> Radix|DR: What is your end goal?
[23:02] <bdjd> Frankfromhr.  I just changed the mouse to a different usb and plugged my wifi card on the same place and now it works
[23:02] <bdjd> Engineering!
[23:02] <bdjd> Lol
[23:02] <OerHeks> Linux is great in memory-control, Only browsers can mess up my ram AFAIK
[23:03] <bdjd> That's seriously engineering in a nutshell. Lolol
[23:03] <Radix|DR> Im running a PocketMine-MP Game server and I want to really use every bit of my dedicated server
[23:03] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: Mouse is still working?
[23:03] <bdjd> Yes
[23:03] <jr_> FrankFromHR: see?
[23:03] <jr_> It's bdjd
[23:04] <jr_> No clue what just happened
[23:04] <jr_> But...w.e
[23:04] <jr_> Now I can get back to work
[23:04] <jr_> haha
[23:04] <FrankFromHR> bdjd: computers.. they keep me in pizza and beer but some days I hate them..
[23:04] <FrankFromHR> jr_: hah
[23:04] <jr_> Yeah. They are kind of like magnets
[23:04] <jr_> You know?
[23:04] <jr_> ....how do they work?
[23:05] <jr_> anyway. Thanks agaibn
[23:05] <FrankFromHR> jr_: Np
[23:05] <jr_> I'm going to my a crab and get the shell out of here
[23:06] <_Anna> I need help from libreOffice users. I'd like to uncheck the "data>sort>options>Range contains column labels" option and keep it unchecked. How? After I click OK it returns to being checked.
[23:16] <CalebW> Anybody on?
[23:17] <reisio> nope
[23:20] <chalcedony> i asked in #libreoffice but not getting responses. Hopefully here. My husband's Ubuntu 14.04 computer crashed. He's having trouble recovering LibreOffice .odt files
[23:20] <chalcedony> i asked him to look at the crash log.. he doesn't know how to do that, either?
[23:21] <reisio> well which is it, he wants to know why it crashed, or he wants the .odt files
[23:21] <wileee> chalcedony, Is the install showing from a live?
[23:21] <wankipyrate> does the computer boot at all?
[23:21] <chalcedony> wankipyrate, yes it rebooted
[23:22] <chalcedony> wileee, he needs the files, he keeps important things there
[23:22] <chalcedony> i would like to know what broke so we can keep it from happening
[23:22] <wileee> chalcedony, Sure, and why I asked that question, it is a deep mist now we look through.
[23:23] <iv4nnunes> hi
[23:23] <c_korn> hello, how can I make glxgears run in a chroot? http://sprunge.us/DNjh already installed the nvidia-346 package
[23:23] <chalcedony> if i'm really really lucky i can ssh to his box
[23:26] <wileee> chalcedony, I would reread reisio's message.
[23:26] <chalcedony> wileee, reading up
[23:27] <F6F7> since running ubuntu 15.04 i often get "Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled" in my syslog/dmesg files and the cpu is indeed quite hot (ls_sensors says usually around 80C). This has not happened in older ubuntu versions or other Linux Os's. What can be the reason for it?
[23:27] <reisio> iv4nnunes: hi
[23:27] <reisio> F6F7: kernel "regression"
[23:27] <F6F7> My fan is definitely not dirty and it works fine on some other OSs (but the overheating cpu also is the case on debian 8 for example)
[23:27] <reisio> or less likely, userspace regression
[23:27] <wileee> chalcedony, we do one thing at a time and on occasion we do it well. ;)
[23:27] <reisio> F6F7: try a kernel from the version that worked
[23:27] <F6F7> ok, how can i change the kernel?
 well which is it, he wants to know why it crashed, or he wants the .odt files | sorry I replied to the wrong party. My husband needs his docunents. I (me personally) would like to know why the computer doesn't keep working for him.
[23:28] <reisio> chalcedony: how is he having trouble getting .odt files?
[23:30] <chalcedony> reisio, my memory is not edetic. However he clicked on LibreOffice and it started recovering docuoments.. however it shows that it is u nable to recover about half of them
[23:30] <wileee> reisio, don't forget to say 'over' after evey transmission. ;)
[23:30] <chalcedony> we didn't go further and he has not used the computer much
[23:30] <reisio> chalcedony: that should only matter for things he was editing at the time of the crash that he didn't save
[23:31] <chalcedony> reisio, uh huh.
[23:31] <reisio> is that what he's worried about, things he was editing at the time that weren't saved?
[23:32] <wileee> libreoffice has an auto-saver has to be turned on is all chalcedony, any way best luck.
[23:32] <chalcedony> reisio, he keeps ongoing records of events. he needs those. yes
[23:32] <reisio> chalcedony: so he had documents open that he hadn't saved?
[23:32] <chalcedony> wileee, where's that setting ill see it's on!
[23:33] <chalcedony> reisio, my husband doesn't speak and understand speech due to a stroke. he's not well atm. i can't ask him.
[23:33] <wileee> chalcedony, It is what it is so be careful to know it's function exactly. https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Saving_Documents_Automatically
[23:34] <chalcedony> wileee, thank you much!
[23:34] <wileee> no prob
[23:35] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[23:35] <chalcedony> reisio, thank you so much
[23:40] <nieve> Hello!
[23:40] <uio> Hello, youtube is kind of choppy... specs are 2 GiB RAM and 600 MHz. Any ideas on how to make it run better ?
[23:41] <nieve> any know what distribution consume low resources pc?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> uio: Are videos played through a dedicated player like Totem or VLC also choppy?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !xubuntu | nieve
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !lubuntu | nieve
[23:42] <uniqueNick1> any os version to teach linux for my 4yo kid?
[23:43] <uio> Jordan_U: I haven't yet tried  vlc, but I think that those distros you suggest might be better suited than ubuntu. Thanks.
[23:43] <nieve> Oh! Thk, i are using now MX 14 Memphis
[23:43] <nieve> but is only x86
[23:46] <nieve> Una distrubución que consuma pocos recursos y que sea de arquitectura 64 bits?
[23:46] <xangua> !lubuntu | nieve
[23:46] <nieve> gracias, voy a hechar un vistazo :)
[23:46] <xangua> uniqueNick1: what other answer do you expect beside Ubuntu flavors in the ubuntu channel¿
[23:47] <apollo_> test
[23:48] <uniqueNick1> Xangua: ubuntu4toodler maybe
[23:55] <r0th3d> j


[00:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-installer [source] (kinetic-proposed) [0.13.1]
[01:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cyrus-sasl2 [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.1.27+dfsg2-3ubuntu1.2]
[01:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvirt [source] (focal-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu8.17]
[01:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gallery-dl (jammy-backports/universe) [1.24.2-1~bpo22.04.1 => 1.24.5-1~bpo22.04.1] (no packageset)
[01:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gallery-dl (kinetic-backports/universe) [1.23.2-1 => 1.24.5-1~bpo22.10.1] (no packageset)
[02:26] <arraybolt3> ubuntu-sru (or bdmurray or RAOF if available): lubuntu-update-notifer in Focal and lubuntu-default-settings in Kinetic have both passed verification and are a week old as of today. If they could be migrated to -updates, that would be awesome. Thanks! (Bug reports: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/lubuntu-update-notifier/+bug/2002255 and
[02:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2002255 in lubuntu-update-notifier (Ubuntu Focal) "lubuntu-update-notifier provides no good way to resolve a forcibly terminated system update" [High, Fix Committed]
[02:26] <arraybolt3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/kinetic/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/1989163)
[02:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1989163 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu Kinetic) "Unable to run screensaver when selected from menu" [High, In Progress]
[04:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: isc-dhcp (jammy-proposed/main) [4.4.1-2.3ubuntu2.3 => 4.4.1-2.3ubuntu2.4] (core)
[04:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: isc-dhcp (focal-proposed/main) [4.4.1-2.1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 4.4.1-2.1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[05:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pyflakes [source] (focal-proposed) [2.1.1-2ubuntu1]
[06:41] <vorlon> ginggs: I'm inclined to think it's time to consider per-arch removals of kitty and pytango to unblock python3-defaults
[06:44] <vorlon> in fact, pytango is Debian bug #1017990 open since August, so I'm going to go ahead on that one
[06:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1017990 in src:pytango "src:pytango: fails to migrate to testing for too long: FTBFS on s390x" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1017990
[06:47] <vorlon> tsimonq2: your python-hypothesis upload seems not to have fixed the autopkgtest
[06:50] <vorlon> tsimonq2: I recommend reporting the regression to Debian and then once the bug is reported, removing from lunar
[06:56] <vorlon> all the other autopkgtest failures blocking python3-defaults look ignorable (they're tests for new versions uploaded to -proposed), once python-hypothesis is cleared I would force-skiptest python3-defaults
[06:59] <vorlon> tjaalton: omg hate https://bugs.debian.org/1014503
[06:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1014503 in bind9-libs "bind9-libs: please provide libraries that enable reverse dependencies to use them" [Serious, Open]
[08:45] <tjaalton> vorlon: yup...
[10:25] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, I shamelessly stole your curl upload and merge because of #1027564
[10:25] <LocutusOfBorg> this way zabbix can build on riscv64
[10:47] <LocutusOfBorg> ceph build will finish in one hour or two :D
[10:54] <LocutusOfBorg> (thanks mariadb-10.6 for making my life sucks today)
[12:45] <ginggs> vorlon tsimonq2: debian bug #1030233 filed
[12:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1030233 in src:python-hypothesis "python-hypothesis: autopkgtest regression in testing" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1030233
[12:46] <tsimonq2> I appreciate that ginggs
[12:57] <ginggs> vorlon: i believe ogayot is preparing a fix for kitty
[13:48] <ginggs> ceph is finally built on riscv64 \o/
[13:52] <bdmurray> ginggs: Could you look at adding python-bumps to big_packages for amd64? I haven't checked to see if it passed in debian.
[13:52] <bdmurray> `dream/entropy.py::test Killed`
[14:01] <ginggs> bdmurray: sure, will do
[14:37] <tsimonq2> ginggs: 🐱> bug 2004435 just ended up in the sponsorship queue; sponsoring
[14:37] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2004435 in kitty (Ubuntu) "kitty ftbfs due to crypto test failure 'Cannot allocate memory' on ppc64el" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2004435
[14:40] <tsimonq2> (❤ DEP-3 headers)
[14:56] <vorlon> ginggs, tsimonq2: oh wow, I just noticed a huge list of reverse-build-deps on python-hypothesis.  Considering whether to regress the tests instead of regressing buildability
[15:03] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: speaking of curl, I've dropped a number of python modules now from the i386 whitelist but still not python-cryptography, guess I need to iterate again
[15:04] <vorlon> now it's rsync :/
[15:04] <vorlon> via livecd-rootfs again
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gallery-dl [source] (jammy-backports) [1.24.4-1~bpo22.04.1]
[15:10] <tsimonq2> vorlon: python-hypothesis> +1 actually; the two failing tests are checking for numpy deprecation warnings :P
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gallery-dl [source] (kinetic-backports) [1.24.5-1~bpo22.10.1]
[15:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gallery-dl [source] (focal-backports) [1.24.4-1~bpo20.04.1]
[15:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gallery-dl [source] (jammy-backports) [1.24.5-1~bpo22.04.1]
[15:21] <tsimonq2> vorlon: I have a patch locally that should do the trick; testing, should have results in the next 30 mins or so
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed flask from i386-whitelist in lunar
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed impacket from i386-whitelist in lunar
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[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed nvidia-graphics-drivers-520 from i386-whitelist in lunar
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[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed pyopenssl from i386-whitelist in lunar
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed pytest-forked from i386-whitelist in lunar
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed python-future from i386-whitelist in lunar
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed python-ldap3 from i386-whitelist in lunar
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed python-ldapdomaindump from i386-whitelist in lunar
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added package-notes to i386-whitelist in lunar
[15:28] <vorlon> tsimonq2: ok perfect. I'm going to go ahead and skiptest python3-defaults now, and we can track python-hypothesis separately
[15:28] <vorlon> ginggs: ^^
[15:28] <tsimonq2> Sounds good, thanks! :)
[15:29] <vorlon> also going to turn off autosyncing now
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted limnoria [source] (jammy-backports) [2023.1.12-1~bpo22.04.1]
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted yt-dlp [source] (jammy-backports) [2023.01.06-1~bpo22.04.1]
[15:42] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: GOOD NEWS livecd-rootfs depends on rsync but this has been present since the initial import into VCS in 2005 and hasn't been used in a LOOOOONG time
[15:44] <ddstreet> ricotz i'm looking at the libreoffice jammy backport now; do you still want to use that version, or should i reject it and wait for a bpo of 1:7.4.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> instead, to pick up lp: #2003735?
[15:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2003735 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Kinetic) "[SRU] libreoffice 7.4.4 updates for kinetic" [Critical, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003735
[15:46] <ricotz> ddstreet, hey, I can redo it for the .2 release, but there won't be another round of test builds and autopkgtests runs
[15:47] <ddstreet> we would need for the 22.10.2 version to get out of -proposed as well
[15:47] <ddstreet> does the backport introduce the bug?
[15:48] <ricotz> ddstreet, I don't want to ping a SRU member everyday about it :(
[15:48] <ricotz> ddstreet, yes, compared to 7.3.7 is does introduce the bug
[15:49] <ricotz> ddstreet, would you be available within the next hour to accept the "repack"?
[15:49] <ddstreet> yep i'll be around
[15:51] <ddstreet> rbasak if you have time during sru shift today can you release libreoffice from kinetic-proposed, so i can accept a backport
[15:51] <ricotz> rbasak, hello :), could you accept this libreoffice SRU into kinetic-updates? https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/2003735
[15:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2003735 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Kinetic) "[SRU] libreoffice 7.4.4 updates for kinetic" [Critical, Fix Committed]
[15:51] <ddstreet> lol
[15:51] <ricotz> yeah
[15:52] <ddstreet> thanks, feel free to ping me when the backport is uploaded
[15:56] <rbasak> ddstreet, ricotz: done. Thank you for a straightforward SRU verification report that's very easy to accept :)
[16:00] <ricotz> rbasak, thank you
[16:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice (jammy-backports/main) [1:7.3.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:7.4.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~bpo22.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[16:09] <ricotz> ddstreet, should be in the queue in a bit
[16:09] <ricotz> ddstreet, please cancel your rebuild
[16:10] <ddstreet> thanks!
[16:10] <ricotz> I am already feeling bad for all the libreoffice builds running in https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[16:11] <ddstreet> yeah it's pretty big pkg :)
[16:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libreoffice [source] (jammy-backports) [1:7.4.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~bpo22.04.1]
[16:12] <ricotz> ddstreet, exactly, there are already test builds made before proposing an official backport ;)
[16:12] <ricotz> riscv64 will take even longer which will come with libreoffice 7.5 for jammy-backports
[16:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice [source] (jammy-backports) [1:7.4.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~bpo22.04.1]
[16:21] <ginggs> vorlon: ack, thanks
[16:23] <ricotz> ddstreet, thank you
[17:14] <tsimonq2><EMAIL_ADDRESS>- "update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/lib/shim/shimaa64.efi.signed is already managed by shimx64.efi.signed"
[17:15] <tsimonq2> ( https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/lubuntu-update-notifier/lunar/arm64 )
[17:25] <bdmurray> We fixed an issue with the arm64 images and paride requeued all the failures
[17:25] <bdmurray> tsimonq2: ^
[17:25] <tsimonq2> Ah sweet, thanks :)
[17:26] <jbicha> tsimonq2: there's some background at https://blog.jak-linux.org/2023/02/01/ubuntu-key-rotation/#regressions
[17:27] <tsimonq2> jbicha: oh nice!
[17:50] <bdmurray> Also paride is looking at the lsb-release-minimal failures
[18:00] <ginggs> bdmurray: python-bumps is happy being a big_package
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu8.25 => 2.02-2ubuntu8.26] (core)
[18:06] <bdmurray> ginggs: thanks, I added a few more too after reading server logs
[18:07] <LocutusOfBorg> please remove mariadb-10.6 1:10.6.11-2ubuntu1 from lunar, it doesn't make sense anymore with new src:mariadb :/
[18:07] <LocutusOfBorg> its failed to upload due to version mismatch, even though I fixed riscv64 build :/
[18:07] <LocutusOfBorg> (or maybe drop src:mariadb?
[18:22] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, hi, are there plans to switch to mariadb instead of mysql?
[18:43] <Eickmeyer> Alright, now Ubuntu Studio won't build because hugin is blocked from migration by python-defaults. Good times.
[18:44] <tsimonq2> Meh, I think python3-defaults should migrate not in this Britney run but the next one.
[18:45] <tsimonq2> (Remaining blocker is an implicit depends on kitty which triggered autopkgtests waiting on arm64 retries, so I'm not sure if it'll be picked up this run.)
[18:46] <Eickmeyer> Well, then I won't worry about removing hugin and just let it fix itself.
[18:46] <Eickmeyer> meow.
[18:46] <Eickmeyer> Means Studio should build tomorrow.
[18:50] <arraybolt3> \o/ and means that LXQt 1.2.1 updates should finally move through!
[18:50]  * arraybolt3 retreats back into the XScreenSaver shadows
[18:51] <tsimonq2> qtbase-o-s won't migrate without pyqt5, which is actually presenting a real regression :(
[18:52] <arraybolt3> Oh tar, really? Last I checked p3-d was the last blocker.
[18:52] <arraybolt3> Gah. You're right. :(
[18:53] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: If it's a real regression, can we just revert back to the previous version for the time being (with one of those +really versions)?
[18:55] <arraybolt3> When I was looking at it, the kind of errors I was seeing implied that maybe it was just something weird with the Python versions going on (errors like "ImportError: cannot import name 'Qt' from 'PyQt5.Qt' (/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/PyQt5/Qt.abi3.so)" seem pretty serious and not like something that would easily regress)
[18:56] <tsimonq2> Well, I can reproduce it, unfortunately. I'm not sure if the 5.15.7 version will work with 5.15.8
[18:56] <arraybolt3> Grr. #WellThatStinks
[19:06] <tsimonq2> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1030188 tracks pyqt5
[19:06] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1030188 in python3-sipbuild "PyQt5.Qt is empty" [Serious, Open]
[19:07] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: Oh, nice.
[20:26] <bdmurray> I'm gonna remove the old version of lsb-release-minimal from the autopkgtest queue
[20:26] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, I don't know, and I don't honestly care too much :) I'm just trying to fix riscv64 build failures here and there
[21:25] <jbicha> ricotz: you can ask the server team if you're curious about mysql
[21:43] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, ah ok :)
[21:45] <ricotz> jbicha, I see, just asking whether there is a need to switch the client library dependency
[21:46] <jbicha> I expect Debian to continue defaulting to mariadb and Ubuntu to continue defaulting to mysql
[21:47] <ricotz> noted, I thought this might change for some reason :)
[22:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-initial-setup (jammy-proposed/main) [42.0.1-1ubuntu2.2 => 42.0.1-1ubuntu2.3] (ubuntu-desktop)
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-initial-setup [source] (jammy-proposed) [42.0.1-1ubuntu2.3]
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[14:53] <alan_g> greyback__: OK? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/miral/remove-libmirserver-dev-from-screen.h/+merge/309552
[15:08] <greyback__> alan_g: yes, thank you
[16:38] <alan_g> dandrader: are you really calling this function somewhere? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/miral/tidy-SurfaceObserver-part1/+merge/309496/comments/802227
[16:39]  * dandrader looks
[16:44] <dandrader> alan_g, replied on the MP
[16:45] <alan_g> dandrader: thanks, that makes sense