[00:03] <dobbos> hello
[00:03] <dobbos> any idea how to find Jesus in Ubuntu 13.04?
[00:04] <swaagie> water your screen
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> !ot | dobbos
[00:04] <dobbos> done that as per a couple of how-to's, no luck :(
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> there is a ubuntu Christian edition however
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> http://ubuntuce.com/
[00:08] <ersatz> hey, can anyone help me figure out why my 12.04 stops booting for me?
[00:08] <swaagie> wilee-nilee: any pointers from the gist?
[00:09] <ersatz> what would the gist be?
[00:09] <cbilljones> I have an init script that is looking for rc.local which ubuntu doesnt use, can anyone assist me to get it working?
[00:15] <ryaninwa> Hello I am trying to use the startup disk creator to make a bootable usb drive but when I try to choose my source disc image I cannot find it
[00:16] <ryaninwa> in the online instructions for creating one it doesn't specify a location other than the default location that opens when choosing other
[00:17] <ryaninwa> can anyone please help me?
[00:17] <swaagie> ryaninwa: you sure the disk is still mounted?
[00:18] <ryaninwa> I am not sure what you mean. I am not using a disc for installation
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> ersatz, could be any number of reasons give details to the channel.
[00:18] <swaagie> ryaninwa: usb/disk/storage unit ;)
[00:18] <swaagie> ryaninwa: what are you using?
[00:19] <ryaninwa> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[00:20] <ryaninwa> The steps I am taking are: I got to dash home open startup Disk creator open it and then select other
[00:20] <ersatz> I posted on ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2179974
[00:20] <swaagie> ryaninwa: nvm I didnt read properly, you already stated usb drive, question remains is it mounted, easiest is to check the 'disk' program
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, open gparted take a screen shot of any and all HD's and imagebin them.
[00:21] <swaagie> gparted is not  installed by default in 12 right?
[00:21] <ryaninwa> This is the first time I have used linux or unbuntu so I am not sure what gparted is
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | ersatz
[00:22] <ryaninwa> I am having trouble locating the, "downloaded ISO file"
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> ersatz, Not much detail however with what you have posted I would guess a missing graphic driver, or the wrong one.
[00:24] <swaagie> ryaninwa: should be under ~/Downloads normally where ~ is your home folder, e.g. /home/<username>/Downloads
[00:24] <ihab> What to do after Gnome 10 release on ubuntu
[00:24] <ersatz> wilee-nilee, the thing is, I got the graphic driver working nicely.  in one case it stopped working when I installed the 32 bit version also, in the 32 bit version, it was working fine until I rebooted (one time).
[00:24] <ryaninwa> Sorry what I am trying to do is make a bootable USB drive and I am following the steps listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu and I am stuck on step 4
[00:25] <k1l_> ihab: can you rephrase?
[00:25] <ihab> Step 4: you should browse to locate the .iso source file
[00:25] <ersatz> ubottu, I will certainly look at that pointer and see if I can get nomodeset to help me.
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, You in windows?
[00:25] <swaagie> wilee-nilee: btw I fiddled a bit with the partner repo's so that I could install skype from the package manager, then however it bails on a lacking skype-bin and when I try to install that it borks on libqt4-dbus:i386
[00:25] <ihab> ryaninwa: What about it
[00:26] <ryaninwa> WIlee nillee I am in ubuntu 12.04
[00:26] <ihab> k1l_: You must have the Ubuntu or any linux distro source file as .iso file format
[00:26] <swaagie> then hit the other button :)
[00:27] <k1l_> ihab: what are you actually trying to do?
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, This a installed ubuntu?
[00:27] <ryaninwa> Swaagie I hit the other button but I cannot locate ISO the source file
[00:27] <ihab> I am helping ryaninwa with his/her problem\
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> !tab | ryan
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> !tab | ryaninwa
[00:28]  * swaagie chuckles
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, YOu on a live cd trying to use it as the iso to install with the startup disk app?
[00:29] <Freeder> Hi folks, I'm looking at an example inittab line of code: zz:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/sudo -u user1 /path/to/my_daemon  . the file my_daemon ... that is the file I always want running, right? Or does that need to be code to check if a file is running?
[00:30] <reisio> does Ubuntu even use /etc/inittab anymore?
[00:30] <ryaninwa> wilnee nilee I am tryin to intall with the startup disk app http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[00:30] <Freeder> actually, it doesnt.
[00:30] <Freeder> hmm.
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, Can you answer my last question?
[00:31] <Freeder> what is the equivilent now?
[00:31] <ryaninwa> Sorry wilee nilee was your last question about the startup disk app?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, You are not using the tab key to complete nicks, nor are you really communicating with those that address you, do you speak english?
[00:32] <swaagie> lol wtf:  wine1.4:i386 : Depends: wine1.4-i386:i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed
[00:32] <k1l_> swaagie: PPAs?
[00:32] <AndroUser> Hey there, i made a big blunder, i followed some tutorial to remove gnome, with some pasting, and now after a reboot my laptop is useless, i only have access to the command line, could somebody help me out to restore my system?
[00:32] <ryaninwa> wilee-nilee: sorry this is the first time I have used this forum
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, Where is the iso you are trying to use?
[00:33] <swaagie> k1l_: I dunno it started with an attempt to get skype installed on 64bit 13.04, but somewhere I completely borked my repo's it seems, I already remove all custom  ppa's
[00:33] <ryaninwa> wilee-nilee:  I am not sure where it is located. I think that is the problem.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, Are you in a ubuntu install or on in a live enviroment?
[00:34] <ryaninwa> wilee-nilee:  In a live environment I believe I am currently running ubuntu
[00:34] <nishanth> i am noob at linux i just installed ubuntu with a windows 7 partion and i dont see the grub after restart can someone help me
[00:35] <Freeder> AndroUser: what did you expect to happen when you removed gnome?
[00:35] <reisio> AndroUser: you want GNOME back?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, Is the iso in another OS? you can't use the live environment as the install iso, for the install yes, but not as.
[00:35] <tarheel> lol sudo apt-get install gnome
[00:36] <reisio> lololololol
[00:36] <tarheel> ive no idea why anyone would use gnome anyway
[00:36] <reisio> ikr
[00:37] <nishanth> can someone help me with a grub issue please??
[00:37] <iklaros> can anyone help with a uefi install? i get a secure boot error on startup, i cannot turn off secure boot on this machine. what do i do?
[00:37] <ryaninwa> wilee-nilee: I downloaded and installed ubuntu alongside windows so I did install and download it with windows and this is my first time running the program
[00:37] <reisio> nishanth: any particular grub issue?
[00:37] <AndroUser> Actually i had lxde already installed, but my computer can''t recognize my graphic card!?
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, This a wubi install, ubuntu does not install to a ntfs unless it is a wubi.
[00:38] <swaagie> k1l_: perhaps you can make anything of it, https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6927503 some stuff I did to get skype installed, tried to revert to just single arch amd64, still seems to be still stuck somewhere on i386, now I retried and the funky shit I just linked happened
[00:38] <reisio> AndroUser: well pick a problem
[00:38] <ryaninwa> wilee-nilee: Would I need to download ubuntu again on the ubuntu OS to be able to create a bootable USB drive
[00:38] <nishanth> reisio : i installed ubuntu using a live cd and when i restart it goes directly to windows
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, YOU installed from windows a wubi correct?
[00:38] <swaagie> what was that repo rebuild site again?
[00:39] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : so am i supposed to reinstall from windows using wubi?
[00:39] <AndroUser> The problem is that i don't know how to connect to the internet from the command line
[00:39] <ryaninwa> wilee-nilee: Correct I used wubi to install it
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, I would not.
[00:40] <iklaros> no-one knows uefi and secure boot?
[00:40] <nishanth> wilee-nilee , i want ubuntu as a an option to dual boot
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> ryaninwa, I would just do another download of 12.04 to load the usb, the iso is somewhere in windows and it is accessible, but few here know wubi or how to navigate from it to windows.
[00:40] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : so how do i make my grub start at boot?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, Do you have more than one HD, and is this a dual boot, if so with what?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> which windows release
[00:42] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : i have only one HD and i made a partition with windows 7
[00:42] <ryaninwa> wilee-nilee: So would you save the file to the desktop and then browse to it? If so is the ISO file end with ".ISO"
[00:42] <iklaros> nishanth: you created the partition using the tools provided by windows 7?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, You can't make a ubuntun partition in windows.
[00:42] <iklaros> nishanth: The recommended method is make a bootable ubuntu USB, then reboot the machine from that, and use that instsaller. That will setup grub.
[00:43] <nishanth> wilee-nilee :  i mean i made some free space and then boot from live cd
[00:43] <iklaros> well good luck with it,im going back to trying to sort out secure boot install, seems no-one here knows how to do UEFI
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, Run the bootrepair app, and save the bootinfo summary ion case it does not work to post for more help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, This was not originally a W8 computer with gpt right, and no raid involved?
[00:45] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : this is a win7 computer
[00:45] <nishanth> i used the disk manager to free space
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, YOu understand my question though on gpt and raid right?
[00:47] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : i did not understand your question
[00:48] <swaagie> ok giving up
[00:48] <swaagie> stuff is utterly broken
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, It is important to say so then, boot the live ubuntu environment and open gparted in the menu and take a screen shot of it and post it at a imagebin.
[00:48] <reisio> yay, giving up
[00:48] <swaagie> what is there evebn beyond apt to manageestuff
[00:48] <reisio> swaagie: ?
[00:48] <swaagie> reisio: ?
[00:49] <reisio> swaagie: need help with something?
[00:49] <iklaros> nishanth: The way you can tell if you have GPT in windows is open command prompt, type 'diskpart' and then 'list disk'. there is a tick box in GPT if oyu have it.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> iklaros, In windows?
[00:49] <swaagie> reisio: any help is always welcome, ill try to make a long story short
[00:49] <reisio> iklaros: what does it mean if he's got GPT?
[00:50] <iklaros> wilee-nilee: That will work in Windows 7. Linux doesn't have a monopoly on terminal commands ;-)
[00:51] <nishanth> wilee-nilee right now i am chating using on the win7 environment, am i supposed to restart from live cd?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> iklaros, did I say they did, you have not followed the posts, but just spit out info to serve yourself.
[00:51] <iklaros> wilee-nilee: You can also do it from disk adminstrator but I can't remember which screen it's in. The command line is easier sometimes ;-)
[00:51] <swaagie> reisio: attempted to install skype, see https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6927503, required to add arch i386, no success, reverted, state still tries to get non amd64 packages, did cleaning/rebuild repo/keys with http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ retried same result
[00:52] <reisio> swaagie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[00:52] <swaagie> obvisouly I also did all regular cleaning and rebuilding stuff in between as well,-f / clean / autoclean / --configure -a
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, Yes, I would like to see what exactly is on the HD, if this can be fixed generally the live cd is where it would be done from, a new install made.
[00:52] <iklaros> wilee-nilee: Well I did say in the post it was on windows ... I'd say it wasn't me that wasn't following
[00:52] <swaagie> if nly it was that simple
[00:52] <nishanth> wilee-nilee ok i did what iklaros said and the section under   gpt is blank
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> or a new install*
[00:53] <swaagie> reisio: basically that page describes exactly what I did
[00:53] <iklaros> nishanth: It's MBR then, not GPT. That's cool.
[00:53] <reisio> swaagie: if it did that, I wouldn't have linked it
[00:53] <swaagie> keeps moaning about skype-bin
[00:53] <reisio> swaagie: try reading it again
[00:54] <nishanth> iklaros : so what do i do next?
[00:54] <swaagie> reisio: how would that help?
[00:55] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : i installed, deleted and reinstalled ubuntu like 3 times all the 3 times the grub was not loaded at restart
[00:55] <reisio> swaagie: if you read it again, maybe you'd read it properly
[00:56] <iklaros> nishanth: If you used the microsoft tools in disk administrator to resize the partition, you don't hav RAID either, since it can't do that on a raid.
[00:56] <swaagie> reisio: sorry didn't want to offend you, but i'd rather not play a guessing game in the middle of the night
[00:57] <reisio> swaagie: all the more reason to read
[00:57] <iklaros> nishanth: do you have any read only boot loader options set in the bios?
[00:57] <iklaros> nishanth: the bios could be preventing writes to the boot sector as a security measure
[00:58] <nishanth> iklaros , i actually dont think so, but how do i find out?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, Can you just do what I have suggested.
[00:59] <iklaros> nishanth: You'd need to look in the bios, it's system dependant. usually you press one of the f-keys as it boots up. but i'm goign to tell you follow wilee-nilee 's advice since im sort of AFK trying to sort out this UEFI nonsenses
[00:59] <nishanth> wilee-nilee, could you please walk me through this
[01:00] <nishanth> wilee-nilee,  what do you need a screenshot of?
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> nishanth,  boot the live ubuntu environment and open gparted in the menu and take a screen shot of it and post it at a imagebin.
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, I'm not good at walking people through stuff, so I doubt I can help you.
[01:02] <swaagie> reisio: reread, i'm not seeing what your after, my feeling is that would have probably worked if I wouldn't have done it otherwise to start with, looking for a way back from my failure
[01:02] <nishanth> if i boot on the live cd how do i have my xchat continue?
[01:02] <reisio> swaagie: have you tried doing that at all yet?
[01:02] <wilee-nilee>  reisio Whats the key pressesto separate the channel from the list in a irc app
[01:02] <Zachintosh> Hello?
[01:02] <swaagie> reisio: of course
[01:02] <reisio> nishanth: continue?
[01:02] <reisio> Zachintosh: hi
[01:02] <rizal> nishanth, have you tried this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:03] <reisio> wilee-nilee: ctrl+i?
[01:03] <Zachintosh> what are you people up to?
[01:03] <reisio> Zachintosh: stuff, things; you?
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Heh, thanks hit it by accident, and forgot the keys.
[01:03] <Zachintosh> Trying IRC for the first time
[01:03] <reisio> wilee-nilee: yeah, that's a rough one :p
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Zachintosh, This is support not chat. try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[01:04] <reisio> Zachintosh: right on
[01:04] <iklaros> Does Canonical have a paid support service for end users?
[01:04] <MrMonkey31> quick question, ubuntu!  anyone know a linux file manager that enables you to drag to or from an open file dialog in any program, e.g. while using gimp, save as, then before picking a name you drag some files into the save as list box?  or am I thinking too 'windows'?
[01:04] <Tylertwo> nishanth, http://webchat.freenode.net/ will work for IRC
[01:04] <Zachintosh> Do any of you happen to know anything of the Chimera boot loader?
[01:04] <swaagie> reisio: purged, cleaned, and repeated the stepss again, I keep getting: The following packages have unmet dependencies:reisio  skype : Depends: skype-bin
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> Zachintosh, would not be supported here.
[01:05] <reisio> heh, samuel
[01:05] <samuel> hello!
[01:05] <reisio> MrMonkey31: which have you tried that don't?
[01:05] <reisio> samuel: sup
[01:07] <samuel> reisio: hows it going?
[01:07] <reisio> samuel: okay, over there?
[01:08] <reisio> swaagie: autoremove?
[01:08] <MrMonkey31> reisio, erm so far I've experimented with Files as included with ubuntu unity, and the viewer of XFCE whatever that is called
[01:08] <samuel> reisio: not bad, house flooded... been raining non stop for 2 days
[01:08] <swaagie> yup did that as well after purging
[01:08] <samuel> this is supposed to be Mexico, not England
[01:08] <iklaros> MrMonkey31: xfce uses 'thunar', ubuntu uses 'nautilus' and you're right, neither of them do it.
[01:09] <reisio> samuel: probably warmer at least :p
[01:09] <reisio> MrMonkey31: try dolphin from KDE, then
[01:10] <iklaros> MrMonkey31: I can tell you PCMan doesn't either. I have never used Dolphin so can't comment on that one.
[01:10] <samuel> reisio: yes... at least we can still say that :_
[01:10] <samuel> :)
[01:10] <MrMonkey31> iklaros, thx, that's strange my distro came with the generically named Files. whether it's a stripped down nautilus I don't know, but it didn't look like the screens I'd seen of nautilus...
[01:12] <MrMonkey31> well then, I'm going to duck out!
[01:12] <iklaros> MrMonkey31: Nautilus changed a lot, recently. Caused some controversy. ;-)
[01:14] <Smilex> I'm trying to run an apache2 server with the web root at a folder in my home folder, yet I'm get access forbidden for a sub directory. Why and how can I fix it? I've tried chmod a+r ~/web -R
[01:16] <iklaros> Smilex: Whihc user account is apache under? Your own?
[01:16] <Smilex> iklaros, how do I check that?
[01:17] <iklaros> Smilex: Is it a default ubuntu install?
[01:17] <Success> what is \xb8\x00\x00\x00
[01:17] <Smilex> iklaros, yes
[01:17] <Success> \xff\xe0
[01:18] <iklaros> Smilex: The user account for a apache is "www-data" then. You'd need to give that access. I'm going to recommend you don't for security reasons, but that's up to you
[01:19] <Smilex> iklaros, it's only for local hosting. I send it to a remote server for public use. Thanks
[01:19] <Smilex> iklaros, another question. Is that done with chown or chmod?
[01:19] <Smilex> also, chmod a+r should have given all users access
[01:20] <Success> chmod 000 -R /
[01:20] <Success> how do i recover from that
[01:21] <k1l_> Success: i dont think that is to recover.
[01:21] <iklaros> Smilex: You need chown to create files though
[01:21] <swaagie> ok time for bed, this is hopeless
[01:21] <reisio> Success: the fastest way would be to reinstall
[01:21] <swaagie> nn all
[01:22] <Success> is there a way to do it without reinstalling
[01:22] <swaagie> thx for the all the hints
[01:22] <Smilex> iklaros, doing chmod a+r ~/web -R did not fix it
[01:23] <k1l_> Success: that is impossible since you would need to set every permission of every folder and file yourself.
[01:23] <iklaros> Smilex: Yea, i said it wouldn't. Apache needs to own the files as far as I'm aware
[01:23] <reisio> Success: yes, but it'd take much longer
[01:23] <Success> you cant do chmod 777 -R / or something
[01:23] <Success> but that command fails for some reason
[01:23] <reisio> Success: you can something, but it'd take much longer
[01:23] <k1l_> Success: that will not lead to a stable system.
[01:24] <Smilex> iklaros, ok thanks
[01:24] <Success> and what about my original quetsion
[01:24] <k1l_> Success: boot up a live cd. save the files that are important to you to your backup and maka a reinstall
[01:24] <Success> what is \xb8\x00\x00\x00\xff\xe0
[01:24] <reisio> Success: in what context?
[01:25] <iklaros> Smilex: When I see this MOST people change the apache account to their own, and have it run in their account. It makes me very sad though as it's utterly insecure. And probab;y a sackable if you work as a sysop :-)
[01:25] <Success> its in a c script insigned char = that
[01:25] <Success> but someone said it was mallicous
[01:26] <Smilex> iklaros, I'm just testing it on my end, and then git pushing it to the actual server. How do I change the apache account
[01:26] <k1l_> Success: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1932954
[01:27] <iklaros> Success: char is an int in C...you've got 6 bytes there. 32 bit ints are 4 bytes.
[01:27] <reisio> Success: would take a lot more context to say if it's malicious or not
[01:28] <iklaros> Success: They're probaby assuming it's an overflow I'd guess.
[01:28] <Success> okay
[01:28] <Success> what hapens when you get an overflow
[01:29] <Success> and can you guys run a site for me that would normally be malcious in windows
[01:29] <reisio> to what end
[01:29] <iklaros> Success: it overwrites the next char thus changing the program in an unexpected (to the programmer) way
[01:29] <k1l_> Success: that is offtopic for a ubuntu support. please stick to ubuntu support in here
[01:41] <brainacid> having issues with my ubuntu install on windows
[01:41] <brainacid> trying to boot into a cd now
[01:41] <brainacid> burning as we speakl
[01:41] <reisio> good to know
[01:53] <k1l_> !nickspam > Helen_Yolanda_Be
[01:56] <trimeta> The medibuntu repository just went offline. What's the best way to cleanly remove this repository from my system, using the command line directly? I could just remove my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list file, but I don't know if that would cause potential problems.
[01:57] <brainacid> got it
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> trimeta, gksudo nautilus and delete the medibuntu text, then run a sudo apt-get update.
[01:58] <brainacid> had an i386 cd in my drive...lol
[01:58] <trimeta> ...Nautilus? This is a headless server, all I've got is vim.
[01:58] <trimeta> But if you mean "edit the file and comment out the line which references medibuntu," that I can handle.
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> trimeta, Then whay did you have medibuntu installed?
[01:59] <trimeta> For codecs? I can stream from the server to other things...and honestly, maybe I had wanted to set it up as a HTPC at some point and ended up not going forward with that.
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> trimeta, all you have to do is remove the text file from sources.list.d
[02:00] <trimeta> Is there a way to check if anything currently installed comes from that repository? Or will running an apt-get update check that for me?
[02:00] <reisio> finally, a fun chat zone :p
[02:02] <moes> I have a /boot/grub/menu.lst in my file system on 12.04 when I boot menu.lst open first and I have to select Ubuntu to proceed to the ubuntu grub display. Can I remove menu.lst and not affect my Ubuntu grub
[02:03] <reisio> moes: what's listed, just 'Ubuntu'?
[02:04] <trimeta> Anyway, since "ls /var/lib/apt/lists/|grep medibuntu" returned nothing, I'm going to assume that means I had nothing installed from that repository, and the deleting the file left me in a clean state. Very good.
[02:04] <reisio> sounds like maybe you have GRUB "legacy" booting GRUB 2
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> moes, menu.list is legacy grub you want to keep the grub 2? how do you have both?
[02:05] <moes> reisio, The title the (hdo,o) and an entry Kernel /boot/grub/core.img
[02:06] <moes> wilee-nilee, This was caused by a bad duel boot
[02:06] <reisio> moes: probably start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> moes, hardly explains it but okay.
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> moes, You can purge both from the desktop of the kept install and reload one and load the mbr.
[02:10] <moes> wilee-nilee, What if I just remove and purge menu.lst as there are no other files installed from the duel boot
[02:11] <dustinspringman> okay ubuntu server experts... need some help...
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> moes, If you want a definitive answer run the bootrepair app, just the bootinfo summary and post the url to that script.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> dustinspringman, #ubuntu-server
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> I suspect they are experts
[02:12] <dustinspringman> wilee-nilee: thanks much, headed that way
[02:12] <moes> wilee-nilee, Okay thanks for the info
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> moes, I can't really say that removing a menu.list without knowing what is reallt there and where its at is all.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> moes, I suspect all you really have to do is reload the mbr with the kept installs grub is all, sounds like the bad dual boot is still there and in the mbr.
[02:19] <dsnyders> Can anyone recommend a good context sensitive editor?
[02:19] <moes> wilee-nilee, Well if all else fails I have good backup on cd's and dvd's
[02:20] <semitones> i forget, does unetbootin let you have many isos on one usb drive?
[02:20] <kieppie1> howdy
[02:21] <kieppie1> I have a new laptop, but for some reason they decided not to ship it with a contextual menu key. how can I remap my caps as the context key (presently disabled)
[02:21] <kieppie1> ?
[02:21] <kieppie1> or maybe there is a command I can call to init the menu/cotext key behaviour & then I can map it to a shortcut
[02:23] <nishanth> i have a windows partition on my hard drive grub do not list it, could someone help?
[02:25] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : i fixed my grub to access ubuntu, but now my windows partition is not listed in it could you help?
[02:26] <dsnyders> Is there a difference between pluma and gedit?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> !info pluma
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> !info gedit
[02:26] <kieppie1> anyone available online to assist/advice re keybindings, please?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use geany for my text editong needs.. or vim. ;)
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> kieppie1:  state the question, and id suggest checking askubuntu.com - i think theres a lot of info about that on their site.
[02:28] <kieppie1> got a new laptop, but does not have a contextual menu key, and my touchpad is somwhat sensitive (with no buttons), making click & crag & right-cick tricky
[02:29] <dsnyders> Dr_Willis: apparently pluma is a fork of gedit.
[02:29] <kieppie1> I'd like to remap my caps to act as my contextual menu (right-click) & possiblibly something like shift+caps or alt+super as left-click
[02:30] <nishanth> i have a windows 7 partition on on my HD my grub do not list it , could someone help?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> dsnyders:  we all know we need more text editors. ;)
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  so if you do a 'sudo update-grub' it dosent mention  windows as seen eh?
[02:30] <dsnyders> Dr_Willis: I'd like one that will re-nest a flattened XML file.
[02:31] <skeuomorf> !help
[02:31] <kieppie1> Dr_willis: the above ^ description make sense?
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, you run the boot repair app perchance and have the bootinfo summary link?
[02:31] <skeuomorf> !patience
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> kieppie1:  you want to map a key-sequence to be 'right click' and anothr key sequence to be left click?
[02:31] <Vivekananda> I am trying to open a pdf ( unlocked) for editing but it says 'linearized' and I cannot select text or highlight it. Can someone tell me what is wrong ?
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> kieppie1:  i DO recall some sort of numpad-mouse feature in gnome. but never used it. of course you may not have a numpad :)
[02:32] <nishanth> Dr_Willis : this is what i get
[02:32] <nishanth> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-29-generic
[02:32] <nishanth> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-29-generic
[02:32] <nishanth> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda2
[02:32] <nishanth> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda3
[02:32] <nishanth> done
[02:32] <FloodBot1> nishanth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <kieppie1> Dr_Willis - essentially, yes, but the important one is to hook the context menu key/right-click 1st. cant locate that option in the keyboard tweak tool
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  looks like it found windows 7 to me. one is your install. one is your windows boot, or recovery p[artiopn
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> kieppie1:  ive never done it. so really cant suggest more then to check askubuntu.com
[02:33] <kieppie1> hmmm
[02:33] <kieppie1> thatnks
[02:33] <kieppie1> know how to call up the right-click/context menu from CLI?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> kieppie1:  if the grub menu does not show the 2 windows entries. then its possible you are booting the wrong hard drive. and booting a differnt grub.
[02:33] <nishanth> Dr_Willis : when i boot i dont see it as options
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong nick. l)
[02:34] <kieppie1> ;)
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, do you use the arrow keys to go down the grub list?
[02:34] <nishanth> wilee-nilee yeah
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  you could also put a custome grub entry to boot windows in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  if your custom entries dont show. that would definatly point to grub not being the same as the grub you are booting
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> probably missing the boot menu, or there is no boot flag
[02:35] <nishanth> Dr_Willis so what do i have to exactly?
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> i dident think grub paied attention to the boot flag. but for windows booting.. not sure
[02:36] <chainsaw> hello!
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, If you had the bootinfo summary tp post from the boot repair app we could be not guessing here.
[02:36] <nishanth> wilee-nilee is there a way to add a boot flag
[02:36] <Guest79319> anyone want to help me with bash scripting?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  a bootinfo summary would answer most of the 20 questions that are going to be asked next.. ;) like.. how many hard drioves to you have
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest79319:  ask the question and see. and theres always #bash
[02:37] <Guest79319> oooooh
[02:37] <Guest79319> I going to hit that channel
[02:37] <nishanth> Dr_Willis : so how do i get a bootinfo summary?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> of course #bash will most likely refer you to the docs
[02:37] <jon8> I'm having problems adding a user to the www-data group and being able to overwrite files. I followed this tutorial, http://tinyurl.com/kuqmuny ..however I'm still getting permission denied when trying to edit and save a file within /var/www
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  that boot-repair tool can print one out i belive
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> jon8:  you did log out the user, after changeing his groups>?
[02:38] <jon8> Dr_Willis: yes sir.
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> jon8:  thats common problem #1 ;)  so firs thing we ask.. heh
[02:38] <jon8> Dr_Willis: I understand
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> i got a job to do.. bbl
[02:40] <sujx> test
[02:41] <daftykins> test failed
[02:41] <nishanth> Dr_Willis ok here is the bootsummary info http://paste.ubuntu.com/6220643/
[02:42] <sujx> ....
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> nishanth have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu?
[02:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:45] <jon8> More specifically, this is the error that I get http://gyazo.com/4894a16f7a1a1f8f88a457a3b2c4ff28 when trying to edit a file via WinSCP after following this tutorial http://tinyurl.com/kuqmuny -- Any thoughts?
[02:47] <Tylertwo> I installed Debian (after Ubuntu, and as a dual boot) and Debian reformatted Grub's appearance on startup. I want it to go back to Ubuntu's Grub appearance. I tried "sudo update-grub" from Ubuntu which seemed like it was working, but when I rebooted it was still Debian's screen. Any ideas?
[02:47] <nishanth> i think i got disconnected for a while
[02:48] <nishanth> wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/6220643/
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> nishanth,  have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu?
[02:48] <sujx> ubuntu mini remix, why i can`t install  it ,something wrong has happen?55555555555
[02:48] <nishanth> wilee-nilee i just did
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, windows should now show in grub choose sda2 if you see it.
[02:49] <gmzamz> what is it called when you use a laptop as a wifi dongle? i.e. using an ethernet cable from laptop to desktop to give desktop internet
[02:49] <nishanth> wilee-nilee thanks a lot, let me try restarting
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> gmzamz, hub
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> sujx, 3rd party not really technically supported here, but is here. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-mini-remix  However if you can give some details we may be able to help.
[02:59] <scottb> I just did an apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade on my Saucy box, rebooted and desktop doesn't load up
[02:59] <scottb> anyone else see that problem
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> !saucy | scottb
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> scottb, You want to ask that in #ubuntu+1
[03:03] <scottb> wilee-nilee, thanks will do
[03:04] <cheapie> Is there an easy way to send keypresses to another terminal? I have a monitor showing some stats over sort of close to me, and I would like to control it remotely.
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> cheapie, THis spying on another's session?
[03:06] <cheapie> No... I can see the monitor from over here anyway, I just want to control it.
[03:08] <cheapie> wilee-nilee: It's sitting there running htop, and I'd like to be able to change screens and such without having to get up and go over there. I can see what it's doing from here, though.
[03:09] <sujx> thx
[03:09] <fxhp> cheapie: research screen + ssh
[03:09] <fxhp> screen and ssh
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> cheapie, Not sure here.
[03:10] <fxhp> wilee-nilee - I just gave him the answer
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> fxhp, good for you.
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> he asked me a question I was just answering
[03:11] <somsip> cheapie: as fxhp says, stop htop on the remote. Run screen on the remote. Run htop on screen. then ssh from your PC and attach to the session of screen
[03:12] <cheapie> somsip: I'm going to go try that now....
[03:12] <somsip> cheapie: and for screen, you can use tmux, byobu and...maybe others
[03:13] <fxhp> somsip cheapie I think screen ships with ubuntu
[03:14] <somsip> fxhp: ah. Always used tmux myself, but I live and learn
[03:15] <cheapie> somsip: I started screen (with the -R option, like some random guide online suggested), and started htop within that. Now what? When I go to the other terminal (and login as the same user) and run screen, I don't see htop anywhere. Just a bash prompt.
[03:15] <somsip> cheapie: you created a new session of screen. You need to do something like 'screen ls' to get a list of existing sessions then 'screen -a {sessionId}' to connect to it.
[03:15] <somsip> cheapie: Like I say, I use tmux so you will have to man screen to get the right commands
[03:17] <fxhp> cheapie - from your other computer you need to ssh to the computer running screen+htop
[03:17] <fxhp> cheapie - then invoke 'screen -rd'
[03:19] <cheapie> fxhp: That made it show up on my local terminal, but it went away on the remote monitor. Is there a way to attach it to two terminals at one time?
[03:21] <fxhp> cheapie - yup
[03:21] <cheapie> fxhp: I just tried tmux, and that seems to be working.
[03:21] <bob---> Hey in linux when i run counter-strike in 4:3 video there's no black bars like in windows
[03:22] <bob---> where in ubuntu can you change this?
[03:22] <bob---> i seen no video settings
[03:23] <fxhp> cheapie - http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Using_GNU_screen%27s_multiuser_feature_for_remote_support
[03:23] <fxhp> cheapie: you got sharing working with tmux?
[03:23] <fxhp> cheapie: gratz
[03:24] <fxhp> bob--- you want the black bars, aka you want to stop it from zooming?
[03:24] <bob---> yes
[03:24] <bob---> 4:3 full screen is stretching
[03:24] <fxhp> bob---: bummer
[03:24] <fxhp> are you using wine?
[03:24] <bob---> nope steam
[03:24] <bob---> its native for linux now
[03:24] <fxhp> oh yeah I forgot the ported
[03:25] <cheapie> fxhp: Yeah, I started tmux on the terminal that should always be running htop, and started htop in that. Then I SSHed into that box, and run "tmux attach". Now I just have to figure out how to unattach it... yes, I am ReadingTFM right now,
[03:25] <fxhp> it doesn't do that for me, although I'm wondering why you are playing with that aspect ratio
[03:25] <fxhp> cheapie - cool, nice work, make sure you stick around to give pointers!
[03:25] <bob---> competitive gamers generally use 640x480 800x600
[03:26] <fxhp> ...
[03:26] <bob---> a lot of the casual gamers max out their resolution
[03:26] <fxhp> bob---: are you sure about that?
[03:26] <bob---> yes im positive
[03:26] <somsip> cheapie: CTRL A then CTRL D (from memory) to detach
[03:27] <fxhp> bob---: why would a competitive gamer use a resolution from the early 90's?
[03:27] <bob---> in counter-strike\css\csgo it's easier to hit shots
[03:27] <cheapie> somsip: Turns out it's Ctrl-A then D (not Ctrl-D). Everything seems to be working great now.
[03:28] <ampw> the effect to make windows transparent when moving them and wiggle.
[03:28] <ampw> which is it?
[03:28] <fxhp> bob---: the hitbox is related to the end users resolution, that has to be the crappiest idea ever
[03:28] <somsip> cheapie: sorry - you're right. Finger memory is good, but brain memory nowadays...meh ;)
[03:28] <bob---> no it's not
[03:29] <cheapie> somsip: I also just found out that SIGHUP detaches it, so I don't even need to worry about that.
[03:30] <fxhp> cheapie: isn't screen/tmux amazing?
[03:31] <JoshDreamland> I can't log in to my account; something crashes and I'm taken back to LightDM. Has something changed that would cause this?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> ampw, http://askubuntu.com/questions/203064/wobbly-windows-effect-missing-from-12-10
[03:31] <cheapie> fxhp: I haven't played around with the window management that it promises to do, but the one-program-in-multiple-terminals thing is quite cool. Reminds me of VNC, somewhat.
[03:32] <JoshDreamland> It's local to my settings, as the guest account works fine.
[03:32] <JoshDreamland> Was something updated that doesn't like old settings? I've tried five different desktop environments.
[03:32] <bob---> anyone know where xorg.conf is?
[03:33] <JoshDreamland> bob---: /etc/X11
[03:33] <bob---> thanks
[03:33] <dvineone> Hi
[03:33] <javanic> hello all
[03:33] <bob---> someone claims adding Option "FlatPanelProperties" "Scaling = Native" will fix the problem
[03:33] <dvineone> has anyone tryed ubuntu touch yet?
[03:34] <bob---> hopefully it works
[03:34] <JoshDreamland> fix what problem?
[03:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:34] <somsip> !touch | dvineone
[03:36] <cheapie> If only that whole multi-server IRC thing was more stable...
[03:36] <JoshDreamland> okay, I'm going to assume the problem is local to me, since the only channel flooding here is from a netsplit
[03:36] <JoshDreamland> so I guess I'll fix it myself
[03:36] <javanic> anyone have any idea why when I delete large files from my hd it doesn't seem to free up any space? I'm stumped here lol
[03:37] <somsip> javanic: how are you deleting them?
[03:37] <cheapie> javanic: Did you empty the trash?
[03:37] <javanic> "send to trash" then empty
[03:38] <dvineone> shift + delete will delete them permanently
[03:38] <somsip> javanic: you could check they are really being deleted from trash. No idea why they shouldn't though
 how do i check?
[03:38] <cheapie> While I'm here... does anybody know of a good font that looks like plain text-mode? Courier is rather difficult to read in comparison.
[03:39] <somsip> cheapie: Monospace?
[03:40] <cheapie> javanic: Doesn't Ubuntu ship with a file usage analyzer thingy? That might show you where they went.
[03:41] <dvineone> there is a terminal command that will show you what amount of disk space is being used file systems are using
 I have no idea.. but it's strange, when i use gparted it shows that I have like NO space on my HD but I can still download large files. The only thing that doesn't seem to work is when I try to download updates
 what is the terminal command?
[03:42] <cheapie> somsip: Unfortunately, I'm SSHing into the server from Windows, so that font isn't preinstalled. But, browsing through the list, I found "Terminal", which looks quite nice.
[03:42] <somsip> javanic: du -h . (fromt he directory you want to check). It will be slow in large directories
[03:42] <cheapie> javanic: That sounds strange... Does fsck complain about anything?
[03:43] <somsip> javanic: well, not slow, but excessively verbose
[03:44] <dvineone> df is the command
[03:44] <javanic> to be honest, my knowledge of how to navigate around terminal is very limited.. I was fluent in DOS but linux base is relatively new to me
[03:44] <dvineone> you will need to searchy the man page to see how to specify it to a certain directory
[03:45] <dvineone> or du may be it
[03:45] <cheapie> I think it's du. df is for the whole disk,
[03:45] <dvineone> yea its du
[03:45] <javanic> javanic@javanic-basment:~$ df
[03:45] <javanic> Filesystem              1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
[03:45] <javanic> /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root 238049928 24381500 201569460  11% /
[03:45] <javanic> none                            4        0         4   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[03:45] <javanic> udev                       958456        8    958448   1% /dev
[03:45] <FloodBot1> javanic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <javanic> tmpfs                      193404     1072    192332   1% /run
[03:47] <cheapie> OK.. now I have another question. What does "+zq" mean?
[03:47] <javanic> none                            4        0         4   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[03:47] <javanic> udev                       958456        8    958448   1% /dev
[03:47] <javanic> tmpfs                      193404     1072    192332   1% /run
[03:47] <javanic> none                         5120        0      5120   0% /run/lock
[03:47] <javanic> none                       967008      344    966664   1% /run/shm
[03:47] <FloodBot1> javanic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <javanic> none                       102400       28    102372   1% /run/user
[03:47] <cheapie> javanic: Please stop flooding. Use Pastebin...
[03:47] <javanic> ok.. got the DU thing to work, what exactly am I looking for.. it won't let me paste
[03:48] <cheapie> javanic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:50] <WordOfGod> did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[03:50] <javanic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6220833/ this is what i got from terminal
[03:51] <WordOfGod> did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[03:51] <Oddity> Who cares what he saw?
[03:51] <Paulus68_1> !offtopic |WordOfGod
[03:52] <somsip> javanic: so boot is nearly full.  Anyway, it's showing that your root partition is nearly empty, but /boot is full. Try 'sudo apt-get autoremove' and see if it removes any old kernels.
[03:53] <somsip> javanic: and just for info, 'df -h' gives friendlier output
[03:55] <WordOfGod> did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[03:55] <somsip> javanic: if unsure, there is helpful information on how to do this here, but *be careful* and make sure you know what you are doing before running anything http://is.gd/uwxbfw
 thanks for the spelling correct... beer does amazing things for spelling and grammar.. but not that important during an install of ubuntu lol
[03:57] <jon8> This is an error that I get http://gyazo.com/4894a16f7a1a1f8f88a457a3b2c4ff28 when trying to edit a file via WinSCP after following this tutorial http://tinyurl.com/kuqmuny -- Any thoughts?
 I did the apt-get autoremove and got  195mb
[04:00] <javanic> do updates download to a different partition then regular downloads then?
[04:00] <cheapie> javanic: You should be okay for a while then. The problem was that the kernels go in /boot, and you had a lot of old ones there.
 thanks for the help!
 does it have to do with how my HD is partitioned?
[04:02] <cheapie> javanic: Regular updates go in /, and you had plenty of space there. When the kernel (the core of the OS) gets updated (that's when it makes you reboot), that goes in /boot.
[04:03] <cheapie> javanic: Sort of. A bigger /boot partition would make it take longer to fill up. The only real solution would be to never update (not recommended), or to autoremove every month or so.
 ok, so if it happens again i'll just do the autoremove.. thanks again for your help!
[04:07] <javanic> thanks for your help everyone, night!
[04:18] <rrm> Why does my touchpad enabled itself after a reboot or sleep?
[04:18] <reisio> rrm: why wouldn't it
[04:18] <rrm> reisio: well, i turn it off
[04:19] <reisio> rrm: you want it always off?
[04:19] <rrm> yeah
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> i got a toggle-touchpad script. :)
[04:19] <rrm> i have a thinkpad and i like the pointer
[04:19] <reisio> rrm: is there not a hardware toggle switch that persists?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit bin/touchpad-toggle
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6220877/
[04:20] <reisio> or is that what you're talking about?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> hardware toggle dosent work on my eeePC for some reason
[04:20] <reisio> no matter if software does :)
[04:20] <rrm> reisio: no
[04:21] <reisio> yeah just add an xinput command to disable it to your auto start
[04:22] <rrm> reisio: any idea
[04:22] <reisio> rrm: Dr_Willis' paste has a command you can copy
[04:30] <dariusc93> do anyone know if saucy daily build ever changed or is it stuck at the final beta build?
[04:32] <somsip> !saucy | dariusc93
[04:32] <jmabudabi> Привет
[04:32] <zykotic10> dariusc93: try #ubuntu+1, but once you've installed, it doesn't really matter?!?
[04:32] <jmabudabi> Hello
[04:32] <zykotic10> !ru | jmabudabi
[04:32] <jmabudabi> Thanks
[04:33] <dariusc93> somsip and zykotic10 the reason why i ask i because theres bugs on ubuntu related to the audio drivers and it bugs me how it  acts but I dont want to download ubuntu over and over if its just the same file with no changes
[04:33] <jmabudabi> I can't join to ubuntu-ru.
[04:33] <jmabudabi> help me
[04:33] <zykotic10> jmabudabi: if you are comfortable in english, ask your question here.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> i stil have to wondwer how my eeePc is 'ubuntu certified' according to the ubuntu web site. but  the fn-toggle touch pad and other keys dont work. ;)
[04:34] <zykotic10> !register | jmabudabi
[04:34] <jmabudabi> I want check one problem on #ubuntu-ru, but I cann't join.
[04:35] <zykotic10> jmabudabi: see the !register message above (unless you are banned)
[04:35] <jmabudabi> !register
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> and does  your client give a reason why?
[04:35] <jmabudabi> !register | jmabudabi
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> happy ubuntu halloween to all http://oi42.tinypic.com/33cutm0.jpg
[04:38] <reisio> scurry
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> oh look a 'My Little Ponies' Costume...
[04:39]  * Dr_Willis watches  the site crash now from overload
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: url? :p
[04:40] <jmabudabi> Who knows how to "kill" vhba-dkms
[04:40] <jmabudabi> hello all)
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> !info vhba-dkms
[04:40] <jmabudabi> !info vhba-dkms
[04:40] <jmabudabi> !info vhba-dkms
[04:41] <jmabudabi> ok
[04:41] <reisio> jmabudabi: kill?
[04:42] <jmabudabi> delete from kernel
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> !find vhba-dkms
[04:42] <jmabudabi> !find vhba-dkms
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> we have no ideq aparently what  VHBA-dkms is...
[04:43] <jmabudabi> !info vhba_20130607
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> care to tell us what is it?
[04:43] <jmabudabi> !info vhba20130607
[04:44] <jmabudabi> My english is bad. very bad
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> jmabudabi: maybe this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502826
[04:44] <jmabudabi> install cdemu on ubuntu 12.04
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> !info cdemu
[04:44] <reisio> ...
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> and whats cdemu?
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> jmabudabi: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search vhba    shows nothing..
[04:45] <jmabudabi> emulation cd, as deamn toools on Windows
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> oh 12.04
[04:45] <jmabudabi> yes
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search cdemu    shows nothing..
[04:45] <jmabudabi> ppa
[04:45] <reisio> it's like mount -o loop for software that is really picky, IIRC
[04:45] <reisio> software that won't just take a path
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> so it emulates an actual /dev/sr0 then?
[04:46] <reisio> I hope so, otherwise it has no advantage over mount :p
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> cant recall ever needing any thing like thatin linux. :) but its not in the repos any more it seems.. so aparently not many other people needed it either
[04:47] <reisio> most software should be happy with a loopback _path_
[04:47] <sunny_> i can use qemu if there is not virtualization support ?
[04:47] <reisio> Windows software is the kind that makes assumptions, or that, as commercial software, requires you to have things like discs
[04:48] <reisio> sunny_: qemu yes, qemu with kvm no
[04:48] <zykotic10> sunny_: yes.  qemu don't require it, but it's slow...
[04:48] <reisio> but without virt extensions, virtualbox would be faster
[04:48] <jmabudabi> "so it emulates an actual /dev/sr0 then?" No.
[04:48] <jmabudabi> Unknowingly installed. Thought would work. And it did not want deleted. I did using this deleted
[04:49] <reisio> just an unnecessary Windows analogue, then
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> jmabudabi:  installed  how exactly?
[04:49] <sunny_> reisio, virtulabox would be faster than qemu if their is no virtualization support ?
[04:49] <reisio> sunny_: yup
[04:49] <jmabudabi> Now I get confused in the comments and responses
[04:50] <reisio> qemu with kqemu might be comparable, but that's apparently not supported anymore, and it's kind of involved to use anyways
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> jmabudabi:  your statements are equally confuseing. You want to Install or remove cdemu >?
[04:51] <sunny_> reisio, ohk
[04:51] <jmabudabi> I deleted it, but the kernel module has an effect. Google Translate.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> jmabudabi:  blacklist the module so it dosent get loaded perhaps.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !blacklist |  jmabudabi
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> best to talk here in the channel jmabudabi  not in private msgs
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[04:57] <jmabudabi> If the error update-initfarms is not given, then all is well?
[04:57] <Omen_20> Is it possible to have the bookmark dropdown button show in Firefox with Ubuntu? I read that it will only show if the Menu toolbar was hidden. It can't be hidden in Ubuntu because of Unity's global tool bar.
[04:58] <paulz111> Hey guys, is there a way to disable TLS compression in Ubuntu 12.04 for Squid?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Omen_20:  you can disable the  global menu for firefox if you wanted to try that route.
[04:59] <freaky[t]> hi all. i got windows 8 with bitlocker. is there any possibility to install ubuntu on my laptop?
[04:59] <paulz111> This is on a reverse proxy server, I want to disable it for all the clients who connect
[04:59] <paulz111> I've read how to do it on RHEL6, or specifically for apache and nginx on Ubuntu.
[04:59] <paulz111> Is there a way to do it system-wide?
[04:59] <Omen_20> Dr_Willis: how would I do that?  I found a setting "ui.use_unity_menubar" in config. Flip it to false and the global menu goes away. I prefer that since it matches what I use on Windows at work. Otherwise I love global menu.
[05:08] <abhisar> /etc/security/limits.conf  The file is responsible to limit resources of users/groups on a Linux server. Unfortunately, the file does not generate any logs (or the case could be that i do not really know of it).How can i  hack it (not necessary internally) so that it starts logging when the limits are hit.
[05:08] <abhisar> need help in this
[05:10] <lmint> Is there a modified version of Ubuntu available that doesnt send data to a server?
[05:10] <reisio> lmint: hrmm?
[05:11] <cfhowlett> lmint, ?  huh?
[05:11] <lmint> I thought that Ubuntu had this feature that sent data to a server that was owned by the company that develops Ubuntu
[05:11] <lmint> I think users were complaining about the privacy implications
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !nounity|lmint,
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !lens
[05:12] <zykotic10> lmint: that's basically "off topic" here.  but that would be an interesting fork.  but if you use unity, then yes, everything you type into unity - does go back to canonical.
[05:12] <Paulus68_1> freaky[t]: try out this guide http://linuxtutorialscratchpad.blogspot.be/2013/01/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu-1210.html
[05:12] <dvineone> gnome-tweak is awsome
[05:12] <dvineone> awesome
[05:12] <reisio> lmint: there's a package that helps amazon sell you things
[05:13] <reisio> lmint: it's uninstallable
[05:13] <cfhowlett> lmint, they're complaining about a feature in lens.  to do without, logout, choose a non-unity desktop environment, login.  no data sharing.
[05:13] <reisio> but if you aren't into Canonical, you can just use Debian
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> hehe its debian either way, ;)
[05:15] <reisio> but not Canonical
[05:15] <lmint> That seems like alot of trouble.   No I am not interested in the operating system doing anything on my behalf, I dont understand why developers think that. If I want to buy something on Amazon for example, I will go to www.amazon.com and find it. By sending a users search terms to some server, this means that I would have to censor myself so as to not search anything I would not want Amazon and Ubunto and who knows who else to know about. That i
[05:15] <lmint> s a hassle
[05:15] <FloodBot1> lmint: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <cfhowlett> lmint, or use an official variant; kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntustudio etc
[05:16] <abhisar> /etc/security/limits.conf  The file is responsible to limit resources of users/groups on a Linux server. Unfortunately, the file does not generate any logs (or the case could be that i do not really know of it).How can i  hack it (not necessary internally) so that it starts logging when the limits are hit.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> this has been argued to death in the forums and at blog sites lmint. we really dont care to discuss it either way in this channel. its a rather pointless discussion even on the forums.
[05:16] <cfhowlett> lmint, you can negate the issue in less than a minute but using a different desktop environment or do a little more work and choose a different ubuntu.  So easy a caveman could do it.
[05:17] <lmint> Signs of censorship here are already starting to appear..this is "off topic", now we cant type in a way that is interpreted as "flooding"
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> lmint, the lenzezs are unity only and can be turned off
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 does have more fine tuned control of lenes and that stuff ive noticed
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> its not censorship when the FOCUS of this channel is support.. not  general discussion. Feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic for NON support discussion
[05:18] <zykotic10> cfhowlett: i hear in 13.10... disabling isn't an option... and only using non-unity will fix the issue </OT>  lmint
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> zykotic10:  omgubuntu or webupd8 has an artical on how to disable it
[05:18] <lmint> Ok I see that the room name includes support in it, my mistake
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> in 13.10 -
[05:19] <reisio> lmint: that's any irc channel :p
[05:19] <cfhowlett> zykotic10, I wouldn't know, as I only use LTS (12.04 currently) and I'm in xfce-based ubuntustudio
[05:19] <lmint> unity...non unity? what is that?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> !unity  | lmint
[05:19] <universal> when is 13.10 coming out ?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> universal:  date is the 17th i hear
[05:19] <universal> ok
[05:20] <zykotic10> !13.10 | universal
[05:20] <lmint> Does Gnone spy on its users?
[05:20] <zykotic10> lmint: no.
[05:20] <lmint> Ok great, thanks
[05:20] <universal> sidebar is not reducing in size when setting it up to 32
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> err.. Unity uses gnome. ;)
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> but i guess he left happy.
[05:21] <universal> ?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> universal:  what ubuntu version you using?
[05:22] <universal> 13.04
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> universal:  as a test. see if it works for a new user, or the guest user
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> ive seen cases where some setting files get owned by root and cant be altered by the user
[05:24] <sunny_> is it a good idea to run multiple services on a single machine, like web service, file service etc ?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> sunny_, they're computers.  they do multi-task.
[05:25] <reisio> sunny_: as opposed to?
[05:25] <hitsujiTMO> sunny_ it can be as long as the load for anyone service isn't effecting the other services
[05:25] <cfhowlett> sunny_, single device, single application ...
[05:25] <zykotic10> sunny_: the more services you run, the greater the security risk... but sure, run as many as your system can handle.
[05:27] <sunny_> reisio, in terms of stability and security
[05:27] <sunny_> zykotic10, this is what i wanted to know.
[05:27] <universal> the problem looks like that its missing its schema link - http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=09d37bf Dr_Willis
[05:32] <universal> how to restore or set a new schema ?
[05:34] <Guest44991> hy
[05:34] <Guest44991> any one here
[05:35] <wheatthin> nope
[05:35] <Guest44991> how to hack ip adress in anonymous
[05:36] <sunny_> Guest44991, good boys don't do bad things :)
[05:36] <wheatthin> Umm you won't find out here lol
[05:36] <cfhowlett> Guest44991, wrong channel
[05:36] <Guest44991> u know how to do that
[05:37] <Guest44991> sunny
[05:37] <wheatthin> Guest44991, if you aren't here for ubuntu support, will you please go?
[05:37] <cfhowlett> !hack|Guest44991,
[05:37] <Guest44991> sorry wheatthin
[05:38] <Guest44991> im here to support
[05:38] <wheatthin> Thing is, we don't support hacking here. It's only for ubuntu help
[05:38] <Guest44991> ok .. sorry for that
[05:39] <Guest44991> cfhowlett
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> of course 'hacking' is such a broad and overused term these days. its rather meaningless
[05:39] <zykotic10> !hacker > cfhowlett ;)
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> we dont support what could be considered illeagle activies
[05:39] <wheatthin> Yes, but the will to do ill intended deeds :)
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> now if you are wanting to hack your raspberry pi into running a lego mindstorm robot... ;)
[05:39] <cfhowlett> zykotic10, your ubottu-fu is unstoppable!
[05:40] <zykotic10> cfhowlett: years of practice
[05:40] <Guest44991> zykotic
[05:41] <Guest44991> zykotic ..
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> !tab | Guest44991
[05:42] <Guest44991> ok thanks for help
[05:43]  * wheatthin <3 virtual machines and linux :D
[05:58] <safk> quit
[06:09] <CharSet> 1 Server running Ubuntu Server - 2 clients: a) running ubuntu with locale set to ca_ES@utf8 - b) running crunchbang with localce set to ca_ES@UTF-8 - a) mounts a network device with no iocharset or codepage set to mount command and characters are well shown - b) characters are not well shown using exactly the same command as a)
[06:09] <CharSet> 1 Server running Ubuntu Server - 2 clients: a) running ubuntu with locale set to ca_ES@utf8 - b) running crunchbang with localce set to ca_ES@UTF-8 - a) mounts a network device with no iocharset or codepage set to mount command and characters are well shown - b) characters are not well shown using exactly the same command as a) - HELP ME PLEASE!
[06:09] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|CharSet,
[06:12] <icmpv6> a
[06:13] <icmpv6> ubuntu 13.10
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> icmpv6:  support for 13.10 in #ubuntu+1 untill the 17th.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Unless theres a delay in release
[06:15] <icmpv6> k
[06:15] <icmpv6> why delay
 ubuntu 13.10 final beta, screen flashes bright on startup before desktop is shown. how do i remove that
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !saucy|icmpv6,
[06:23] <nhaz> good day to all
[06:23] <ryannathans> http://wiki.winehq.org/BuildingBiarchWineOnUbuntu i get to the last step sudo make install on my 64bit os and i get 32/64bit errors
[06:23] <ryannathans> http://pastebin.com/LTc6Yxhm
[06:33] <tcstory> quiet
[06:33] <ryannathans> you can answer my problem :P
[06:33] <cfhowlett> tcstory, quiet means Ubuntu is working!
[06:37] <Guest3903> someone around who could help me with a ubiquity issue?
[06:37] <Guest3903> this is the issue i'm facing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1238446
[06:47] <ryannathans> how can I have libpng12-dev and libpng12-dev:i386 installed at the same time?
[06:49] <foofoobar> Hi. So I get this strange wifi connection problems: http://pastebin.com/Dh9ijK1K I found a thread on the manufacture forums of my model (dell xps 13 with ath9 driver) where ppl suggest two different solutions:
[06:49] <foofoobar> 1) update kernel
[06:49] <foofoobar> 2) install a backport
[06:49] <foofoobar> This is the thread: http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19515554.aspx
[06:49] <foofoobar> What is more "safe"? I dont want to lose functionality like the keys on my keyboard to controll background light
[06:51] <Ben64> foofoobar: safest would be to get a different wireless card
[06:51] <Tylertwo> what'stuBe27to
[06:51] <gulag2013> foofoobar, always check the physical. You checked the wires correct?
[06:52] <foofoobar> gulag2013, the wires for the wireless connection? :D
[06:52] <foofoobar> The wireless ap is a connection I'm using a long time, just with a different notebook
[06:52] <foofoobar> Ben64, I cant replace the card of my notebook
[06:52] <Ben64> you probably can, but i meant usb
[06:54] <foofoobar> uh, no. I dont want to attach a usb wireless every time
[06:54] <foofoobar> It would be nice to get this card working on ubuntu
[06:54] <foofoobar> I read that on windows it has no problems
[06:54] <foofoobar> There are also two suggestions on the thread
[06:54] <Ben64> get a tiny one
[06:55] <foofoobar> I'm just trying to figure out which is the better one
[06:55] <Ben64> can stay plugged in all the time
[06:55] <foofoobar> No, this is not a solution for me :/
[06:55] <foofoobar> This notebook is new. I dont want to extend it because of a software bug
[06:56] <foofoobar> so .. backport or linux kernel update? :)
[06:56] <Ben64> you don't want to extend the notebook?
[06:56] <Ben64> what does that even mean
[06:57] <gordonjcp> foofoobar: I don't see anything in your paste that suggests a problem
[06:58] <cfhowlett> foofoobar, backport is the "safer" method I would say.
[06:58] <gordonjcp> foofoobar: have you filed a bug?
[06:59] <cfhowlett> foofoobar, Also, let me point out that LTS is the preferred OS so 12.04.3
[06:59] <Ben64> foofoobar: might help if you post more details, like what wireless card, what version of ubuntu
[07:07] <helmut_> hi
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> hi
[07:23] <SupaSol> hi
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> hi
[07:25] <NetCatty> hi
[07:27] <qq_q_z> Hi. My screen randomly freezes sometimes. It will show the same image no matter what I do until I turn it off. How do I debug this and find the cause?
[07:29] <sunny_> what's the name of the login manager of ubuntu lightdm or gdm ?
[07:29] <sunny_> it must be lightdm
[07:30] <floryn90> hi everyone
[07:30] <cfhowlett> floryn90, greetings
[07:30] <floryn90> where can i find the ubuntu roadmap ?
[07:31] <floryn90> cfhowlett, hi :P
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !roadmap
[07:31] <cfhowlett> floryn90, you mean the development type map?
[07:32] <floryn90> yes
[07:32] <floryn90> do you know if will be release a rc of saucy ?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> !saucy
[07:33] <cfhowlett> floryn90, best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:33] <floryn90> cfhowlett, ok thanks
[07:34] <floryn90> thanks to cfhowlett
[07:34] <NetCatty> what happend to the bottom panel in nautilus 3.8.2?
[07:35] <swaagie> day to of the skype will not install due to held  broken packages, missing skype-bin, on ubuntu 13.04, clean not had any previous version installed, followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype but not until after I did a manual install, tried all repository/apt clean/purge/fix commands, anybody any other pointers
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> a lot of nautilus featres have been getting trimmed out NetCatty
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> sunny_:  lightdm is the default. but i tend to use gdm because i like it better. ;)
[07:36] <sunny_> Dr_Willis, than i need to try gdm
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> sunny_:  also i think xubuntu and lubuntu have differnt lightdm themes.
[07:36] <swaagie> day two* btw
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> actually i Might be usng xubuntu's on this netbook. Im not sure ;) its a cleaner layout then the default ubuntu lightdm look
[07:37] <NetCatty> Dr_Willis: that's just swell. Whoever thought that "trimming" the bottom panel would be a great idea? I cant read the last file name cuz it's been overlayed with the pop-up notification
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> NetCatty:  cant say ive noticed. general gnome trend for the last few years has been to remove stuff and make everything cleaner if less functional.
[07:38] <NetCatty> Dr_Willis: is there a way to stop the notification pop-up at the bottom?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> im nore annoyed at a lot of the other things removed from notilus
[07:39] <sunny_> Dr_Willis, is their any theme package for lightdm ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> NetCatty: what desktop are you using?
[07:39] <NetCatty> gnome 3
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> sunny_:  check the package manager and see. It may depend on your release
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> NetCatty:  id look at the gnome3 extensions and see if theres one to put them somewhere else
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> i dont use gnome-shell much
[07:40] <sunny_> Dr_Willis, ok
[07:40] <sunny_> Dr_Willis, which DE you use ?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> im on xubuntu on my netbook most of the time. or lubuntu
[07:41] <shafox1> exit
[07:43] <Yoya> hello guys
[07:43] <Yoya> any one on?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Yoya, greetings
[07:43] <NetCatty> Dr_Willis: if it weren't for docky's limitating and annoying need for nautilus I'd have changed to thunar or nemo long time ago
[07:43] <Yoya> hello cfhowlett
[07:43] <Yoya> hey guys, i have a doubt
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Yoya, no there's only a few THOUSAND here..  What's the issue?
[07:43] <cgtdk> cfhowlett: 1650
[07:44] <Yoya> i have to set a cron job, that job have to execute each one minute
[07:44] <cfhowlett> cgtdk, sorry.  I'm in China: pop. 1.3  BILLION so I tend to get a bit fuzzy on small numbers :)
[07:44] <Yoya> i use crontab -e, but if the user use another login
[07:45] <Yoya> that job will be do?
[07:45]  * cfhowlett Says nothing because he doesn't do cron stuff ...
[07:45] <Yoya> jejeje
[07:46] <Ben64> what does this mean...? <Yoya> i use crontab -e, but if the user use another login
[07:46] <NetCatty> lol!? http://www.bilder-space.de/bild-askpng-10272.htm  > http://askubuntu.com/
[07:47] <Yoya> i mean, i did a crontab -e with Yoya login, but if another person login with other user-login
[07:47] <swaagie> so why doest apt-cache search skype show skype-bin as packkage on ubuntu 13.04?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> swaagie:  you dont have a repo with skype enabled. or if you do. you havent dond a sudo apt-get update yet
[07:50] <jorn_> Hallo Welt!
[07:50] <bazhang> !info skype partner | swaagie
[07:50] <bazhang> enable partner repo swaagie
[07:50] <swaagie> Dr_Willis: I haven't added a custom repo, only enabled i386 arch and enabled partner repo
[07:50] <swaagie> bazhang: ^
[07:51] <bazhang> swaagie, so update your sources.list
[07:52] <swaagie> bazhang: Dr_Willis apt-get update && apt-get cache search -> https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6931114
[07:53] <bazhang> swaagie, its apt-cache search ...not apt-get search
[07:53] <swaagie> typo, see the gist
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[07:56] <swaagie> pretty funky stuff
[07:59] <lesshaste> should I install gnuplot-x11 or gnuplot-qt?
[07:59] <lesshaste> for a standard ubuntu 13.04 install
[08:01] <swaagie> bazhang: also yesterday I already rebuild to whole source.list, updated, dist-upgraded etc, the whole shabam it keeps on trying to install that package, which in turn fails on other i386 package like libqt4..
[08:03] <MickS> swaagie: do you have output of that?
[08:03] <HaiHH> Hello World
[08:03] <tunage> I am trying to do a usb0 connection to my serria wireless device snd_bcm2835. lsusb shows the device and modprobe snd_bcm2835 works but ifconfig usb0 -> usb0: error fetching interface information: Device not found  .   What step am I missing?
[08:04] <swaagie> MickS: what specifically, the rebuild or any of the clean commands?
[08:04] <lesshaste> the answer is gnuplot-x11 it seems
[08:04] <MickS> swaagie: any of those steps that gives you an error/conflict
[08:05] <swaagie> MickS: not getting any errors, just a rogue skype-bin listed as dep for skype while im on 13.04, see https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6931114 and I  just can't seem to get it out
[08:06] <ionutica-99> hi
[08:07] <MickS> swaagie: it's meant to be a depencency for the skype package. Why would you want to get it out?
[08:07] <Rory> What option can I add to my ssh config to avoid having to use the -t flag to connect to a particular host? Or how can I make it so I can run screen like "ssh hostname screen -dr" without having to do "ssh -t hostname screen -dr" - either method for the same result
[08:08] <dr_willis> or make an alias Rory
[08:09] <MickS> Rory: RequestTTY
[08:09] <Rory> dr_willis: I know it should be possible, "man ssh_config" shows it's very very exaustive
[08:09] <Rory> MickS: RequestTTY On? True?
[08:09] <swaagie> MickS: ok lets go deeper in the rabbit hole ;) https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6931262
[08:09] <MickS> Rory: force in your case perhaps
[08:09] <somsip> Rory: I use aliases and autossh to reconnect too, eg: alias knd1="autossh knd-1 -t tmux a", with knd-1 being an entry in ~/.ssh/config
[08:10] <rain> Hi
[08:10] <Rory> !cookie | Thanks MickS - "RequestTTY Force" did the trick
[08:10] <ionutica-99> can anybody help me with my launchpad PPA? i have some problems compiling my game it appears that libloadpng4-dev is not available under ubuntu 12.10 and without it my game can't work
[08:10] <Guest94283> How to permanently mount ntfs drive to mnt/data ?
[08:11] <ionutica-99> use /etc/fstab guest
[08:11] <dr_willis> !fstab
[08:11] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[08:12] <Guest94283> Any way to do this with mount command?
[08:12] <MickS> swaagie: it almost looks like your apt is refusing to use i386 packages. Did you somehow restrict it to only use 64-bit that you remember?
[08:13] <ionutica-99> Guest94283: fstab mounts anything you specify at startup
[08:13] <ionutica-99> Guest94283: it's like executing mount every time you boot up
[08:13] <ionutica-99> Guest94283: and it always runs as rootr
[08:14] <swaagie> MickS: good hunch, however dpkg --print-architecture && dpkg --print-foreign-architectures: amd64, i386
[08:14] <swaagie> now I did do a --remove-architecture twice yesterday
[08:16] <swaagie> removing the i386 so to speak, each time updated and dist-upgraded after, what is freeking me out though is the fact that when I just plain out delete sources.list in /etc/apt/ and open the package manager to readd some repo's, try to install skype, all repo's and even custom added sources are there again
[08:17] <swaagie> like wtf how does it even know it's old sources still
[08:17] <swaagie> err custom old*
[08:17] <swaagie> source.list/ is empty
[08:17] <ikonia> !wtf | swaagie
[08:18] <tunage> I am trying to do a usb0 connection to my serria wireless device snd_bcm2835. lsusb shows the device and modprobe snd_bcm2835 works but ifconfig usb0 -> usb0: error fetching interface information: Device not found  .   What step am I missing?
[08:19] <dr_willis> you sure its   ifconfig usb0?
[08:19] <dr_willis> try just ifconfig
[08:19] <swaagie> ikonia: yeah sorry, was more an expression of being perplex
[08:19] <dr_willis> a usb wifi dongle is  wlan0  here
[08:20] <joe222> #ubuntu
[08:20] <tunage> dr_willis snd_bcm2835 is a usb device
[08:20] <joe222> looking for help with broadcom 4311 driver
[08:21] <tunage> dr_willis ifconfig only has my eth0 and 1
[08:21] <swaagie> what cache/source/w.e. is also keeping track of repo's besides apt
[08:21] <tunage> and loopback
[08:21] <dr_willis> tunage:  so are my wifi dongles.  you got 2 wired network cards?
[08:22] <tunage> dr_willis eth0, eth1 and hopefully soon a usb0
[08:22] <dr_willis> ive never seen a wifi card be usb0
[08:23] <tunage> * with usb0 and eth0 bridged *
[08:23] <joe222> help??
[08:23] <cfhowlett> !details|joe222, details please
[08:24] <joe222> i have a problem with wifi drivers
[08:24] <MickS> swaagie: sorry for slowness .. I'm at work, so distracted now and then. Ok, do you have some files in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/ ?
[08:24] <cfhowlett> joe222, d - e - t - a - i - l - s
[08:24] <jorisw> Hi. If my machine has six CPUs, does 100% CPU usage in 'top' mean it's at one sixth capacity?
[08:24] <swaagie> MickS: np likewise let me check
[08:24] <joe222> version 13.04 for broadcom 4311
[08:24] <jorisw> With 100% I mean that one process says it's at 100% CPU
[08:25] <ikonia> jorisw: it means its fully utilised , press "1" to see each core
[08:25] <joe222> ubuntu*
[08:25] <jorisw> ikonia: thank you
[08:25] <mijn> !htop | jorisw
[08:25] <swaagie> MickS: dpk.cfg.d/ is empty
[08:25] <MickS> swaagie: ok, as it should
[08:26] <joe222> i am not able to load broadcom-wl
[08:26] <MickS> swaagie: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures   still gives you i386, right?
[08:26] <dr_willis> jorisw:  try htop  its more detailed
[08:26] <jorisw> mijn dr_willis : ty
[08:26] <mijn> !info htop | jorisw
[08:26] <joe222> no internet what soever on the machine
[08:26] <dr_willis> jorisw:  all used would be 600% i think
[08:27] <swaagie> MickS: hmm quite certain I didn't delete anything there, and yes foreign still gives i386
[08:27] <Guest94283> how to get UUID for GPT ntfs disk? blkid does not say anything
[08:27] <ikonia> %100 = %100
[08:27] <dr_willis> jorisw:  i think i saw this asked on askubuntu.com
[08:27] <cfhowlett> !details|joe222, you're killing me here.  Tell us details or no one is going to help out.    A little information goes  a long way
[08:28] <mijn> !htop is a graphical (ncurses), interactive version of top. it can display running processes, per-core cpu utilisation, memory usage, process tree, also allows modifying nice values and sending signals to processes. http://htop.sf.net/
[08:29] <joe222> OK... I have a dell vostro 1500, running  ubuntu 13.4 with a broadcom 4311 wireless chipset and not network connections at all how do i install the proper drivers with no internet
[08:29] <dr_willis> Guest94283:  try  sudo blkid  ?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> joe222, easiest way:  plug in to a  hard wire connection and run the additional drivers utility under the systems menu
[08:30] <Rory> joe222: It might be simpler to just plug in with an ethernet cable
[08:30] <dr_willis> !apt-on-cd
[08:30] <Guest94283> tnx
[08:30] <joe222> does not recognize etho
[08:31] <joe222> from fresh install
[08:31] <dr_willis> i use a usb dongle that works out if the box. to get the other drivers. ;-)
[08:32] <joe222> iwconfig+ no lo and no eth1
[08:32] <Ben64> try ifconfig
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !networking | joe222, now THAT is surprising.
[08:32] <iceroot> what was this local "database" called which is designed to store passwords? cant find the name. it was a program which was able to save localy passwords and other stuff (encrypted)
[08:33] <bazhang> keepassx
[08:33] <iceroot> bazhang: thx
[08:33] <bazhang> !aptincd
[08:34] <bazhang> whoops
[08:34] <bazhang> !aptoncd
[08:35] <joe222> im trying to install the b43-fwcutter and bcmwl-kernel-source but am having problems all over the place
[08:35] <joe222> any one know if it might be the kernel headers
[08:36] <Guest94283> Is it enough to write UUID="66DC7800DC77C937" /mnt/data ntfs defaults 0 0 in fstab to permanently mount ntfs drive? or do i need to write anything else?
[08:37] <dr_willis> Guest94283:  make the directory also. then test it
[08:37] <dr_willis> Guest94283:  sudo mount -a
[08:37] <Guest94283> Just mkdir?
[08:37] <e01> hello
[08:37] <njsg> Guest94283: yes
[08:37] <njsg> Guest94283: as root, of course
[08:38] <dr_willis> thats how to make a directory...
[08:38] <e01> is there a way to rewrite my own URL requests that apps sending
[08:38] <Guest94283> Some examples have another line after this line: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[08:38] <Guest94283> like
[08:38] <Guest94283> UUID=cee15eca-5b2e-48ad-9735-eae5ac14bc90  none  swap  sw  0  0
[08:38] <Guest94283> /dev/scd0  /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660  user,noauto,exec,utf8  0  0
[08:38] <e01> for example if i open a browser and it request some js, i want to point it to my own in my www directory
[08:38] <Guest94283> do I also need 2nd line?
[08:38] <Guest94283> or what's that for?
[08:38] <dr_willis> thats a cdrom drive..  scd0
[08:39] <Guest94283> I mean something similar
[08:39] <Guest94283> Or is 1 line enough?
[08:39] <dr_willis> there is ONLY one line per device
[08:39] <Ben64> both of those lines are for different things
[08:39] <dr_willis> well filesystem
[08:39] <njsg> Guest94283: the second line is cdrom, just try to read it, scdX is SCSI CD X, then it gets mounted at cdrom
[08:40] <njsg> Guest94283: each line is for a different filesystem
[08:40] <dr_willis> !mount
[08:40] <njsg> Guest94283: so if you are adding a new filesystem you need exactly one line
[08:40] <dr_willis> no more.. no less..
[08:40] <dr_willis> neither shall there be 2. no 3..
[08:41] <dr_willis> and 4 is definatly forbidden...
[08:41] <njsg> but what about 42?
[08:41] <dr_willis> we are doing monty python.... not hitchickers guide...
[08:41] <dr_willis> ;-)
[08:43] <Rory> dr_willis: I thought it was "4 is completely out of the question"
[08:44] <Rory> Why is there a direct correlation between years using Linux, and ability to quote Holy Grail?
[08:49] <foofoobar> Ben64, gordonjcp, cfhowlett: I'm sorry for my late answer, I had to leave in a hurry, I'm back now
[08:49] <foofoobar> I'm using a dell xps 13 with the following wireless card: 01:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[08:50] <foofoobar> The problem is that I lose my internet connection in irregular time intervals
[08:50] <tyteen4a03> hey - what is the package for texlive package manager (tlmgr)?
[08:50] <foofoobar> Sometimes they are more often, sometimes less
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: look for other options on the ath9k module
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> tyteen4a03: run:   tlmgr   in a terminal, if it is available it will give the package
[08:52] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, I found this thread: http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19515554.aspx
[08:52] <tyteen4a03> ActionParsnip, I installed texlive but terminal says command not found
[08:52] <foofoobar> They are suggesting a) a different kernel or b) a backport
[08:53] <foofoobar> As someone mentioned here, the backport might be the safer option to try
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: what is the output of:  uname -a
[08:54] <Ben64> foofoobar: try this or get a new card http://askubuntu.com/questions/301442/atheros-ar9462-wifi-very-unstable-package-loss
[08:54] <foofoobar> Linux box 3.2.0-30-generic #48+kamal6~DellXPS-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 28 16:28:43 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: try the 3.5 kernel, or the 3.8 which are in backports.
[08:54] <foofoobar> It's the kernel/ubuntu version which was factory installed by dell
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: you could even try the 3.11 from PPA
[08:54] <Ben64> dell kernel :|
[08:54] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu is it
[08:55] <foofoobar> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[08:56] <Ben64> try what was in that link i just gave you, if that doesn't work then get rid of that dell stuff and try "linux-generic-lts-raring"
[08:56] <foofoobar> okay
[08:56] <foofoobar> thanks, I will read that thread now
[08:56] <JC_Yang> any simple command to remove files recursively according to a reference folder? what I need to do is to clear files and folders which I just unpack from tar
[08:59] <cfhowlett> foofoobar, so replacing the card isn't an option?
[08:59] <Ben64> its always an option, and a pretty awesome one
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Ben64, not sure Dell didn't make hardware replacement very difficult a la Apple ...
[09:00] <Ben64> usb would work too
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Ben64, true but ... I've seen and played with the XPS 13.  Having to shovel in a USB after laying out 1.5 large would irritate me to no end.
[09:01] <Ben64> like $5 lol
[09:02] <foofoobar> I have two usb ports. Blocking one permanent because of a wifi card - which is also already inside the notebook - is a bad option
[09:02] <foofoobar> Also i thought the "dell xps developer" would also has a good linux compatibility
[09:02] <foofoobar> makes me angry that I have to put time on this wifi issue now
[09:02] <foofoobar> bad dell work
[09:02] <cfhowlett> foofoobar, it does but ... seems the wifi issue is a common complaint
[09:03] <foofoobar> I will try the suggestion from Ben64 link now and see if it works
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: try the 3.11 kernel too, its easily rolled back
[09:04] <foofoobar> 3.11 kernel = linux-generic-lts-raring?
[09:05] <wander_> I wanted to test RC of 13.10 but I can't find the image
[09:05] <k1l> foofoobar: see http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19515554.aspx
[09:05] <wander_> am I missing something or have I just to use the daily image?
[09:05] <k1l> foofoobar: scroll some down, there are named possible and working solutions to the wifi problem
[09:06] <Ben64> only 2 usb ports? : /
[09:06] <Ben64> anyway, this is the linux compatible wireless usb i use http://i.imgur.com/FMbPvPa.jpg
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Ben64, yep.  hopefully, the 14.04 dell XPS 13 will add ports
[09:08] <foofoobar_> awesome, opening the /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/essid file resulted in a freeze
[09:11] <foofoobar_> I restarted now and can open it now. No "system-ca-certs=true" in there
[09:11] <foofoobar_> It's not a WPA network, I think its because of this
[09:11] <foofoobar_> I cant see if someone answered on my last question
[09:11] <foofoobar_> ActionParsnip, is the 3.11 kernel the package linux-generic-lts-raring?
[09:11] <serapath> i managed to share a directory and access is from a windows computer on my local network, but i do not have write access. how can i enable that too?
[09:12] <Ben64> no, 3.8 is raring
[09:12] <MadHatter_> Anyone really familar with useing scripts with rtmpdump in linux?
[09:13] <swaagie> MickS: gave up tool it as a chance to install 13.10 ;)
[09:13] <swaagie> Took*
[09:14] <it-guy> Hey.. I'm trying to execute a file but it says "./test: No such file or directry".. The file is there.. "file test" prints "test: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, not stripped" and I'm on a "x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" 12.04 Ubuntu… What could it be?
[09:14] <ikonia> it-guy: what is "test"
[09:14] <foofoobar__> ok, different computer for irc now..
[09:14] <it-guy> it's a hello world program
[09:14] <it-guy> I wrote it
[09:14] <it-guy> If found that if I compile the test program with "gcc test.c -o test" it works fine
[09:14] <Rory> it-guy: Is it executable? (chmod +x test)
[09:15] <it-guy> I compiled it on a different machine
[09:15] <it-guy> yes
[09:15] <ikonia> it-guy: ok, so show me the output of "uname -a" please
[09:15] <it-guy> ikonia: Linux nbewk1 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:15] <it-guy> uname -a of the machine I compiled it on: Linux UbuntuSRC 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:15] <ikonia> it-guy: right so straight away, it's a different kernel, although why you've put a reference to 2.6 in your code I don't know
[09:15] <ikonia> it-guy: what libraries does it depend on
[09:16] <llutz> it-guy: btw bad idea to name it test, "test" is a linux program and a shell-builtin command too. (does not matter in your special case, but. ..)
[09:16] <ikonia> I suspect the file not find error is a missing library
[09:16] <ikonia> which considering it's just "hello world" seems very unlikley
[09:16] <it-guy> ikonia: i think just libc
[09:16] <ikonia> so I suspect it's not actually a "hello world" program
[09:16] <it-guy> Well
[09:17] <it-guy> The thing is.. ok if I compile it like this: gcc test.c -o test it works fine
[09:17] <Rory> it-guy: How are you compiling it for it to not work?
[09:17] <it-guy> If I compile it with a Makefile that uses ldd with crt's it doesn't work
[09:17] <ikonia> it-guy: pleaes run "ldd" against it on the broken machine and pastebin the output
[09:18] <it-guy> 	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007ffffa3ff000)
[09:18] <it-guy> 	librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007ff349d9c000)
[09:18] <it-guy> 	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007ff3499dd000)
[09:18] <it-guy> 	libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007ff3496e0000)
[09:18] <it-guy> 	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007ff3494c3000)
[09:18] <FloodBot1> it-guy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <it-guy> 	/lib/ld64.so.1 => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007ff349fac000)
[09:18] <ikonia> llutz: no, I said pastebin it
[09:18] <ikonia> oops
[09:18] <ikonia> it-guy: I said pastebin it, not flood the channel
[09:18] <ikonia> llutz: sorry about that
[09:18] <Ben64> ....pastebin; also... how is this ubuntu support? :O
[09:19] <ikonia> it appears not to be
[09:19] <Americanu> hello there friends
[09:19] <it-guy> ikonia: You're right, I tried it at one point with just the libc, but it didn't work either
[09:19] <it-guy> ikonia: should I remove all the other libs quick and try it again?
[09:20] <ikonia> it-guy: apologies, I don't believe you are being honest about what you are doing, and it's not really an ubuntu issue, so I'd suggest taking this to a C channel
[09:20] <swaagie> dr_willis: MickS bazhang thx for your help, reinstallation done ;) .10 now
[09:20] <Americanu> is this channel for helping purposes too?
[09:20] <it-guy> ikonia: I am honest.. what did I say that's wrong? I guess it is a C-problem though...
[09:20] <ikonia> Americanu: it's for ubuntu support
[09:20] <Ben64> Americanu: its only for helping with ubuntu
[09:21] <ikonia> it-guy: a hello world program does not need all those libraries
[09:21] <ikonia> it-guy: so I suspect it's not a hello world application.
[09:21] <Americanu> yeah that's what i meant...sorry if you guys didn't understand :) How do i make my webcam to work?
[09:21] <swaagie> MickS: btw dpkg.cfg.d is still empty so I guess that is intended
[09:22] <it-guy> ikonia: You're right.. I am actually programming a daemon right now and got the error message. That's why I made a hello world program to track down the error using the same Makefile
[09:22] <Americanu> i got skype..and i have a webcam :-? that doesn't get recognised... any tips?
[09:22] <ikonia> it-guy: truth normally gets you better responses, I don't trust you now, so can't really progress this, I'd suggest taking it to a c channel
[09:22] <Ben64> hello world needs almost nothing, heres mine http://2.ben64.com/hw 52 bytes
[09:22] <foofoobar__> ActionParsnip: So I installed linux-generic-lts-raring (3.8.0), disconnects still occur. How to get 3.11 kernel ?
[09:22] <Ben64> nearly the smallest hello world possible
[09:23] <it-guy> ikonia: I was truthful.. I don't know why you're calling me a liar now. I didn't lie.
[09:23] <Ben64> foofoobar__: did you try all the stuff in the thread?
[09:23] <it-guy> ikonia: I am trying to get the hello world program running with the Makefile of a daemon I'm writing
[09:23] <Ben64> foofoobar__: and paste the output of "uname -r"
[09:24] <Americanu> ikonia do you know by any chance to solve the webcam plugin ?
[09:24] <ikonia> Americanu: sorry no
[09:24] <Americanu> ah..thanks anyway
[09:24] <swaagie> MickS: skype installed like a breeze, I guess an earlier problem with getting gnome 3.10 to work left my apt repo's in a serious bad state
[09:24] <k1l> !skype
[09:25] <k1l> Americanu: ^  see the bots message
[09:25] <foofoobar> ben64, I tried the  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/essid thing
[09:25] <foofoobar> uname -r now is 3.8.0-31-generic
[09:25] <Ben64> there was a lot more than essid
[09:25] <k1l> foofoobar: did you actually try the solutions suggested in the dell-support-forums i posted?
[09:26] <foofoobar> k1l, no. I first tried the solutions suggested here
[09:26] <foofoobar> k1l, do you mean the backport thing?
[09:26] <Ben64> probably the ath9k.conf stuff
[09:26] <Americanu> k1l: why? i did :/ i googled in the forums too...
[09:26] <Ben64> the same thing i directed you to
[09:27] <k1l> foofoobar: yes
[09:27] <foofoobar> Ben64, I already tried the nohwcrypt=1 option for the ath.conf
[09:28] <Ben64> the page i linked you to had a lot more
[09:28] <foofoobar> k1l, you mean the post http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19515554.aspx "Posted by chicochaz on 27 Aug 2013 4:33 PM" ?
[09:28] <k1l> Americanu: did you see the "troubleshooting" sections in the skype wiki page mentioned by the bot?
[09:28] <foofoobar> Ben64, one moment
[09:28] <Niwreg> hi
[09:30] <k1l> foofoobar: yes. it also mentions in the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1160188  that it sonna be fixed in 13.03 and is fixed in 13.10
[09:30] <Americanu> k1l: aaaaahh lol..i didn't knew the bot would "respond" AFTER my message...i was searching on the topic section
[09:30] <k1l> !skype | Americanu
[09:31] <foofoobar> k1l, the backport there is the same fix which is mention by the bug on launchpad you posted?
[09:31] <foofoobar> I will try this backport now
[09:31] <Americanu> k1l: yeah i saw it xD thanks a lot
[09:31] <Enissay> How can I monitor my lan traffic ? [who downloads a lot, what, ...]
[09:32] <foofoobar> k1l, is this "backport" a module or what do I install with this?
[09:32] <nitk> Does anyone know about ns3
[09:32] <MickS> swaagie: sorry, just returned to my pc.. I see you got it working on .10, nice! Yeah, it must have been something really odd in your .04 install. Good to see it's working for you now ;-)
[09:32] <k1l> foofoobar: the problem is the kernel-module (driver) is not 100% working with your card. but the fixes are just put into 13.04 and 13.10 since they got the newer kernels. maybe it gets backported with the "LTE enablement stack" kernels, but im not sure.
[09:33] <Niwreg> Is there somebody that can help me out with file permissions?
[09:33] <k1l> foofoobar: yes.
[09:33] <Rory> !ask | Niwreg
[09:35] <swaagie> MickS: I tend to blam ppa-purge, as I used that at some point to revert from gnome 3.10 to .8 and it seriously messed up, was able to work around it until now
[09:35] <Niwreg> thanx :)
[09:36] <ese> any body knows how to change the mouse cursor pointers with a custom made one? i like to change the default arrow
[09:36] <chips__> hi
[09:38] <yogg> I try to turn off "SSLCompression" in apache 2 ("2.2.14-5ubuntu8.12", Ubuntu 10.04.04). The changelog said, that there was a patch for this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/apache2/+changelog
[09:38] <MickS> swaagie: let's also just blame Skype for having 32-bit only. Just because we can ;-)
[09:39] <mgregson> Anyone here familiar with building ubuntu packages?  I'm trying to build a package that includes multiple upstart configurations, but I can't seem to get extra ones to install.
[09:39] <Niwreg> i'm building an application that uses ftp, php and iwatch. i'm running in the problem that i want user1 (php and iwatch) to acces and delete files from user 2. I added user1 to the group of user2. How ever i still cannot delete the files from his homedir. File permission is done from pure fpt and has full permission on the uploaded files. How can i
[09:39] <Niwreg>  delete files from another user without using sudo?
[09:39] <yogg> But if I write into "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ssl.conf" -> "SSLCompression Off" and restart apache nothing happens. Compression is still available
[09:40] <foofoobar> k1l, installed and rebooted, lets see how long it works
[09:40] <_gpg_> hi all
[09:40] <buu> Niwreg: A) the files need to be 'owned' by the shared group B) you need group read/write
[09:40] <yogg> has someone an idea what i have done wrong?
[09:41] <k1l> foofoobar: just keep in mind, that you need to the last steps everytime you get a kernel update.
[09:41] <Enissay> Is there a way to monitor my lan traffic ? [who downloads a lot, what, ...]
[09:41] <buu> Enissay: Yes, ask your router
[09:41] <Niwreg> buu that's why i added user1 to the user2 group. and there is group r/w
[09:42] <foofoobar> k1l, okay, I will save this link
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Enissay: ntop
[09:42] <serapath> in order to give "write" access to a user, i found this command: "chown -R user:user /path/dir", but i'm not sure what "user:user" means.  from the help of "chown" i know its owner:group, but how do i know what to specify?
[09:42] <_gpg_> i have an ubuntu machine on a windows network, to remote access this ubuntu machine i have to provide its IP ADDRESS, i would like to be able to adress it using a FQDN, for example mymachine.mydomain.com. what's the different steps to do please ?
[09:42] <MickS> Niwreg: does user2 have write permission on the dir of user1 where the files are in?
[09:42] <_gpg_> i have modified my /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, the administrator told me that he added it to windows domain, but some glue actions is messing somewhere
[09:43] <Niwreg> MickS no acces denied
[09:43] <Enissay> buu, ask him how ? his interface is pretty basic, nothing special
[09:44] <Caelum> if I made a new dir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/mine how do I add those fonts?
[09:44] <hitsujiTMO> yogg SSLCompression defaults to off ... is it enabled elsewhere?
[09:44] <Niwreg> but the dir i try to write to has group acces from user2 and user1 is in the user2 group
[09:44] <Niwreg> that's why i don't understand why it wont work
[09:44] <swaagie> MickS: yeah that 100% as well ;) I already tweeted mad at them yesterday
[09:45] <buu> Caelum: fc-cache?
[09:45] <Niwreg> is it possible that user2 can not log in?
[09:45] <Caelum> yeah thanks!
[09:45] <Niwreg> that that is the reason?
[09:45] <swaagie> since its microsoft now I doubt they care
[09:45] <swaagie> iin the end I can blame myself ofc
[09:45] <swaagie> for being reckless
[09:45] <foofoobar> k1l, it looks like it fixed it.. I got no disconnects so far
[09:45] <kali_eskrima> hi, i have a problem with wifi. i already tried to do few days ago, sudo...unblock all, and it worked, but when i swithced off my laptop, and started again is not working. it is saying AGAIN... "wireless is disabled by hardware switch".... can you please help,. i have been going through different google pages and ask ubuntu, but i cant figure it out... thanks
[09:46] <k1l> kali_eskrima: rfkill is the command you are looking for
[09:46] <foofoobar> k1l, are you also using a dell xps 13 ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: oooh, what's the fix?
[09:46] <kali_eskrima> k1l i tried.. is not doing anything,.. just brings me back to the new line for input
[09:47] <kali_eskrima> let me try again
[09:47] <MickS> Niwreg: user2 needs to have write permissions on the directory the files are in. Either via user or group rights.
[09:47] <it-guy> Can't find the package that contains "ld64.so.1" for Ubuntu precise 64bit
[09:47] <k1l> foofoobar: no. i used to have a dell vostro until it died some weeks ago
[09:47] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19515554.aspx the post from "Posted by chicochaz on 27 Aug 2013 4:33 PM"
[09:48] <noob7> hi all, I always thought that i686 is 32bit but typing lscpu tells me that my architecture is i686 but "CPU op-mode(s)" tells:   32-bit, 64-bit ->??
[09:48] <foofoobar> I still ahve to wait some time to see if it looses the connection, but usually I lost the connection after I connected when I bootet
[09:48] <noob7> so i686 can be either 32bit or 64bit?
[09:48] <abnyr> hgrh
[09:48] <abnyr> ghj
[09:48] <foofoobar> I think in about an hour I can tell if that fixed it
[09:48] <foofoobar> but looks good
[09:48] <MickS> swaagie: yeah, I still think it's odd that they bought it. Having MSN already and all ... maybe it's a recognition that their MSN product is inferior ;-)
[09:49] <buu> Niwreg: which group is the containing directory in and does it have g+rw?
[09:49] <yogg> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the help. I just found my failure
[09:49] <MickS> swaagie: however, this goes off-topic and there's other channels for that :P
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> yogg: np
[09:49] <kali_eskrima> k1l so what now, should be fixed..no command necessary to input after that? because i did few days ago, i did rfkill unblock all / and unblock wifi and it worked, and after few days is back to not working. wireless disabled by hardware swithc..as previously said
[09:49] <swaagie> MickS: they do own the majority of voip now and can force-feed their users again, yeah agree :)
[09:49] <Niwreg> MickS it is his homedir so it should be writeable by user and group acces
[09:50] <llutz> noob7: you run a 64bit capable cpu on 32bit architecture
[09:50] <buu> Niwreg: Look this really isn't that complicated, make a few test files in a test dir, su to various users, chown to groups, see what happens
[09:51] <MickS> Niwreg: should be is an assumption, and assume makes an ass out of u and me. So please verify these rights. By default the homedir is not group-writeable.
[09:51] <kali_eskrima> Rory hi can you help me with the wireless?
[09:51] <noob7> llutz, so i686 is always 32bit but can also do stuff like a 64bit cpu?
[09:51] <k1l> kali_eskrima: do you have a hardware switch? or are you booting into windows?
[09:52] <k1l> kali_eskrima: or are you having some fn-key setups on that?
[09:52] <k1l> kali_eskrima: if there is no output after a command it means: "no error" most times in linux
[09:52] <kali_eskrima> k1l i dont see or dont know where is th e hardware switch,.. i installed ubuntu 12.04 from windows 8. so i only have ubuntu
[09:52] <llutz> noob7: i686 is 32bit, amd64/x86_64 woul dbe 64bit. your OS just is 32bit, while your cpu is 64bit (which has no benefits now)
[09:53] <kali_eskrima> k1l its been giving me problems since i installed it... really disappointed. i have another laptoop with 12.10 working like a charm. this.. su**s
[09:53] <it-guy> never mind. /lib/ld64.so.1 normally is a symlink to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[09:53] <llutz> noob7: 64bit cpu can run in 32bit OS fine, but a 32bit CPU cannot run on 64Bit OS
[09:54] <kali_eskrima> the fn F2 doesnt work.
[09:54] <kali_eskrima> k1l i thought i fixed it few days ago..with that rfkill and updated all ...hm didnt work
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: you will need to rerun that every time you get a new kernel, so keep the source available, you may want to make a script
[09:56] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, yeah I did :)
[09:57] <TheRiddla> Do any of you jokers recommend zorin OS?
[09:58] <noob7> llutz, so i686 tells me that the architecture of my cpu is 32bit but it can work like a 64 bit cpu? (I don't get how the 64 fitts in into i686)
[09:58] <k1l> TheRiddla: since this is a ubuntu support channel: no
[09:58] <TheRiddla> k
[09:58] <TheRiddla> thx
[09:58] <llutz> noob7: your kernel/OS is 32bit (i686)
[09:59] <k1l> noob7: x86_64  is the 64bit part
[09:59] <kali_eskrima> k1l another thing. this 12.04 version in downloaded it from ubuntu/canonical. i actually purchased the original dvd 12.10, and guess what, is not bootable, so it doesnt work. so i was forced to download the 12.04 because i couldnt find the 12.10 download on the website. since i installed this current os 12.04 lts, i have been having problems, when it boots is says "could not write bytes" broken pipe"? and very often when im in
[09:59] <k1l> noob7: every other stuff like i386 or i686 is 32bit
[10:00] <noob7> ok, but I can run a 64bit OS on my i686 architecture cpu right?
[10:00] <mgregson> noob7: No.
[10:00] <k1l> noob7: no
[10:00] <k1l> you need a 64bit cpu to run 64bit OS
[10:00] <noob7> then why ""CPU op-mode(s)" tells:   32-bit, 64-bit"
[10:01] <k1l> it is just downwards compatible: you can run a 32bit OS on a 64bit cpu.
[10:01] <llutz> noob7:  "architecture" shown by lscpu is your OS, not your CPU
[10:01] <noob7> ah ok
[10:01] <k1l> noob7: what cpu modell is it?
[10:01] <llutz> noob7: its the kernel-arch you currently run
[10:01] <SoItBegins> I'm having trouble with my MacBook Pro's internal keyboard and trackpad
[10:01] <kali_eskrima> k1l i wold get a message "sorry ubuntu has experienced an error". than i go to "additional drivers" and there is completley nothing?!! so that means that i dont have much with this version and its only giving me problems.!!!! it says "no propretary dirvers are in use on this system"... whatis this? i thought it might help you help me.
[10:02] <Niwreg> i followed this command set but i still can get it to work http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16549417/how-to-allow-to-create-a-directory-in-home-folder-another-user
[10:02] <SoItBegins> The system simply stops recognizing the hardware, at random, without warning.
[10:02] <kali_eskrima> k1l i will wait for your help. i know you guys are helping a lot of people at once. so i will wait. please read my messages sent to you. i will wait. thank you
[10:02] <SoItBegins> KB and trackpad always go out at the same time.
[10:02] <Frank81> hello i have grep \[ERROR\] in my process list is there any way to find out what happens there i mean what or who startet to grep for what
[10:02] <noob7>  AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640
[10:02] <Niwreg> both users are in a third group and has group write acces
[10:03] <Niwreg> but i cannont write from user1 in the dir of user2
[10:03] <noob7> (I think it's 64 bit) but what bothered me was the i686 in the architecture
[10:03] <k1l> kali_eskrima: the "experienced a error" thing comes up on every error. it doesnt need to be a big error.
[10:04] <k1l> kali_eskrima: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you have the latest updates installed. maybe there are some fixes for you included
[10:04] <Frank81> Hello i have grep \[ERROR\] in my ps aux and i need to know what happend there
[10:04] <noob7> but if I type cpuinfo I want to get the info about my cpu and not my OS???
[10:04] <llutz> noob7: lscpu tells you:  your OS just is 32bit (i686), while your cpu is 64bit (x86_64)
[10:04] <noob7> I mean lscpu
[10:04] <andreiiar> Hello. I have live disk on usb and want to skip the startupmenu as I dont ever want to install and alwyas use english. How do I do that?
[10:05] <andreiiar> Also It uses so much memory
[10:05] <noob7> I thought lscpu will list stuff about my cpu and not my OS that the problem I think
[10:05] <andreiiar> And it is lubuntu
[10:05] <kali_eskrima> k1l ok will try in a minute. but did you read my messages/concerns? thanks
[10:05] <llutz> noob7: you're right, it's confusing. maybe file a bugreport :)
[10:07] <SoItBegins> If it helps any, when my kb/mouse go out, the following log entry appears:
[10:07] <SoItBegins> (EE) synaptics: bcm5974: no synaptics event device found
[10:08] <kalakj> how to disable DVD drive in ubuntu
[10:08] <kalakj> just like device manager in windows
[10:08] <Frank81> Realy no one knows how i can look what executed this misculinus command  grep [\ERROR\]
[10:08] <kalakj> it is ejecting automatically in ubuntu, and working flawlessly in windows
[10:08] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Not really, I'm cleaning my flat, and about to go out. I'm sure someone else can help you
[10:08] <kalakj> anybody, please help
[10:09] <Frank81> kalakj maybe simply unmounting it helps
[10:09] <noob7> llutz, where would one file a bug like this to? launchpad or is there a bugzilla thing of kernel stuff?
[10:09] <llutz> noob7: i'd think launchpad
[10:09] <SoItBegins> And the kernel log has this:
[10:09] <Frank81> noob7 you can fill it as all on launchpad right
[10:10] <kalakj> Frank81: it has not any CD/DVD INSIDE but it is ejecting randomly
[10:10] <SoItBegins>  bcm5974 7-2:1.2: could not read from device
[10:10] <noob7> or just write a mail to the authors told in the man page?
[10:10] <SoItBegins>  bcm5974: mode switch failed
[10:10] <kalakj> it never happens when i login to windows, but it happens randomly when i login to ubuntu
[10:10] <Frank81> kalakj maybe remove the cd driver from loading
[10:10] <kalakj> Frank81: how to do that
[10:11] <kalakj> is there any program, where i can simply disable , enable drive
[10:11] <kalakj> other than BIOS
[10:11] <noob7> will this not marked as "never fixed" cause it's not ubuntu stuff?
[10:14] <Frank81> kalkaj
[10:14] <Frank81> If you wait for a more radical solution, you can simply remove the module file from the file system:
[10:14] <Frank81> rm /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/scsi/sr_mod.ko
[10:14] <Frank81> But don't forget to make some backups because you will not able to use cd-rom drive at all since next reboot after this operation
[10:14] <noob7> found https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ it tells "...for posting bugs against the mainline Linux kernels (not distribution kernels)." Do you think it's ok to report there?
[10:15] <Frank81> or look for a other cd driver that get used
[10:15] <Frank81> this sr_mod.ko is the scsi stack for cd it normaly gets used
[10:15] <llutz> noob7: lscpu is part of util-linux, not the linux kernel
[10:16] <noob7> ooops
[10:16] <minimec> kalakj: Try "eject -i on" once. That should lock the cd-rom drive. "eject -i off" unblocks it.
[10:16] <Frank81> llutz any ideas? how i can find out where the grep ERROR comes from in ps aux
[10:16] <Frank81> i don't know what did that grep and what should it grep for
[10:17] <llutz> Frank81: i'd guess it greps for "ERROR", some background-scripts. find the parent-pid of that process
[10:17] <noob7> https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ ??
[10:18] <llutz> Frank81: check the time it started, check logs for cron-jobs running that time
[10:18] <minimec> kalakj: Other interesting post here... http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59707/lock-cd-dvd-drive-prevent-eject
[10:19] <noob7> found a mailing list http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#util-linux
[10:19] <Frank81> good idea thx how to find the back pid
[10:19] <Frank81> the the pid that started it
[10:19] <Frank81> parent-pid i mean
[10:19] <llutz> ps -p <greps pid>-o ppid=
[10:19] <llutz> Frank81:  ^
[10:21] <Frank81> what the hell :D
[10:21] <Frank81> i dont understand what i do there but i am sure it will work
[10:21] <Frank81> :D
[10:22] <Frank81> does nothing
[10:22] <Frank81> ps -p 14189 -o ppid=
[10:22] <Frank81> simply no output :D
[10:22] <Frank81> so it simply runs self contained or is anything other wrong?
[10:23] <Frank81> ya ok answered my question :D it runs at it self it has no parent pit
[10:24] <sharpshooter> I was installing ipwraw in ubuntu 13.04 (sourse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1106376&page=2) I am getting an error WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash. If you experience build errors, try 'make SHELL=/bin/bash'. make -C /lib/modules/3.8.0-32-generic/build M=/home/sharpshooter/ipwraw-ng (2) modules /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected make: *** [modules] Error 2
[10:27] <noisignal> hello everyone, I cannot enable "enable wireless" on network manager menu. it is greyed and I don't know how to make networks be displayed
[10:27] <kali_eskrima> k1l ok i did what you said and it almost download / updated all, but few things failed to complete and install. i can tell you which ones
[10:27] <noob7> just subscribed to the "util-linux" mailing list ->noob7 feels like a real kernel hacker
[10:27] <kali_eskrima> Rory thanks anyway enjoy
[10:28] <fogged> hey everyone. I'm trying to use USB stick connected to host within a VboxGuest, but the Vbox keeps saying that I have no usb devices connected. vbox extension pack is installed. could you please advice me what to do next? my OS version is 13.04
[10:28] <revelation> hello
[10:28] <revelation> I need smtp
[10:29] <cp1024> Hi all, bit of a noob here :) - i have a mdadm raid, its all in the mdadm.conf fine, but i want ubuntu to mount and use it normally on startup, any advice?
[10:30] <krambiorix> hi, my numeric keyboard shows a dot in Firefox when i press the button next to zero.... How can i make it to show a comma?
[10:30] <ikonia> cp1024: put it in the fstab
[10:30] <revelation> hi
[10:30] <hitsujiTMO> sharpshooter what is the exact command you're using to build?
[10:30] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, make
[10:31] <noisignal> hello everyone, I cannot enable "enable wireless" on network manager menu. it is greyed and I don't know how to make networks be displayed
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> sharpshooter have you tried?: make SHELL=/bin/bash
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> as the error suggests
[10:32] <cp1024> ikonia - any advice on what i put in there? i am in the file now
[10:32] <cp1024> but what options etc
[10:33] <lkeijser> hi, I want to run both proftpd and pure-ftpd on one ubuntu server but apt wants to deinstall one if I try to install the other ... Can this behavior be avoided?
[10:33] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, I tried :  make SHELL=/bin/bash make -C /lib/modules/3.8.0-32-generic/build M=/home/sharpshooter/ipwraw-ng (2) modules /bin/bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' /bin/bash: -c: line 0: `make -C /lib/modules/3.8.0-32-generic/build M=/home/sharpshooter/ipwraw-ng (2) modules' make: *** [modules] Error 1
[10:33] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, above was its output
[10:34] <ScottUbuntu> Hello. Does anyone know of a financial program for linux that allows you to keep track of your transactions while also having a forecast of your bank balance that includes scheduled transactions. Like AceMoney Lite on Windows?
[10:34] <krambiorix> how can i change the dot in a comma on my numeric keypad??
[10:35] <geirha> sharpshooter: well the error is clear, (2) is not valid there. It needs to be inside shell quotes
[10:35] <krambiorix> anyone?7
[10:35] <edk> noisignal: is wireless disabled by the hardware switch?
[10:36] <kali_eskrima> k1l ok this is my message error from your command updated that u gave me
[10:36] <kali_eskrima> k1l W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20130820.1)/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs  W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20130820.1)/dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM
[10:37] <k1l> !paste | kali_eskrima use this service to show all the text
[10:37] <tsongki> hi everyone! Need help please. my vlc player is not working after i change the skins.
[10:37] <sharpshooter> geirha, can you explain it little more am newbie to installing from source code :)
[10:38] <k1l> kali_eskrima: and start the "software and updates" option in systemsettings. go to the "other software"-tab and uncheck the to cdrom entries
[10:39] <geirha> sharpshooter: Well, the makefile is badly written, that's for sure. It's hard to say how to fix it without seeing the code though
[10:39] <Dai_1987> tsongki: define "not working"
[10:40] <tsongki> Dai_1987, i cant launch it.
[10:40] <sharpshooter> geirha, here is the Makefile http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221856/
[10:41] <Dai_1987> tsongki: try launching it from a terminal and see what the output is
[10:41] <tsongki> Dai_1987, it closes automatically without error message
[10:42] <Dai_1987> so there's no output in the terminal?
[10:42] <geirha> sharpshooter: Probably line 114. I'm betting the DIR variable contains (2)
[10:42] <kali_eskrima> k1l ok here you go. please take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221859/
[10:42] <tsongki> yah nothing happens
[10:43] <Dai_1987> damned if I know then, remove it and reinstall it
[10:43] <tsongki> Dai_1987,  well i tried it and doesnt work
[10:43] <geirha> sharpshooter: And DIR appears to be set to current working directory, so what's the output of   echo "$PWD"   ?
[10:44] <sharpshooter> geirha, /home/sharpshooter/ipwraw-ng (2)
[10:44] <kali_eskrima> k1l i cant find the software and updated in my system settings..
[10:45] <tsongki> Dai_1987, well i had found a webpage http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003373
[10:45] <hitsujiTMO> sharpshooter: mv "/home/sharpshooter/ipwraw-ng (2)" /home/sharpshooter/ipwraw-ng
[10:45] <kali_eskrima> k1l i meant software and updates, i cant find... there are only few icons, the general ones.
[10:45] <noisignal> hello, my wireless networks cannot be enabled. "rfkill list" shows it is hardware blocked, but there is no hw switch on my netbook
[10:45] <tsongki> Dai_1987, i cant delete the  .config/vlc folder
[10:45] <geirha> sharpshooter: Right, so it fails because of that directory name. You can either change line 114 to $(MAKE) -C "$(KSRC)" "M=$(DIR)" modules  or rename the directory to not contain special characters like whitespace and parenthsis
[10:46] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, ok
[10:46] <slarty> Anyone know what command to give Scribus to pipe a gnuplot graph to a scribus render window?
[10:46] <Dai_1987> tsongki: why not?
[10:47] <tsongki> Dai_1987, i dont know how to access the .config/vlc
[10:47] <k1l> kali_eskrima: start "software-properties-gtk" from a terminal
[10:47] <kali_eskrima> k1l i sent you the website for the full text as you requested earlier...
[10:47] <hitsujiTMO> tsongki: rm -r ~/.config/vlc
[10:47] <kali_eskrima> k1l i will do that now
[10:47] <geirha> sharpshooter: Looking close at the makefile, rename the directory like hitsujiTMO suggested. There's a lot more bugs in that makefile.
[10:47] <Dai_1987> tsongki: it's in your home directory, just type rm -r ~/.config/vlc into a terminal window
[10:48] <tsongki> Dai_1987,  ok wait ill try
[10:48] <Dai_1987> tsongki: and while you're at it, type "vlc" into the terminal instead of launching it from the menu
[10:48] <lkeijser> hi, I want to run both proftpd and pure-ftpd on one ubuntu server but apt wants to deinstall one if I try to install the other ... Can this behavior be avoided?
[10:49] <ese> Hi in 13.04 is not longer possible to customize the mouse pointer like before by clicking System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Customize -> Pointer  ?
[10:49] <kalakj> Frank81: NO
[10:49] <kali_eskrima> k1l ok i did unselect the cd room entries. waiting for further instruction
[10:49] <sharpshooter> geirha,  I changed the directory http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221896/
[10:50] <Frank81> http://www.poweradded.net/2009/09/cddvd-tray-lockunlock-under-linux.html
[10:50] <sharpshooter> geirha,  but still not working
[10:50] <Frank81> then do this
[10:50] <Caelum> has anyone seen this from unattended-upgrades "ERROR Internal error while building a minimal partition.Cache has not allowed changes
[10:50] <tsongki> Dai_1987, thank you very much!
[10:50] <Caelum> seems like some sort of general error
[10:50] <tsongki> Dai_1987,  it works
[10:50] <geirha> sharpshooter: right, but at least one step further
[10:50] <Dai_1987> tsongki: no worries, maybe avoid using that skin again
[10:50] <marloshouse> lkeijser, i'm a little curious why you would want to run both?
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> lkeijser: why do you want both?
[10:50] <noisignal> hello, can anyone help please?
[10:50] <k1l> kali_eskrima: again the "sudo apt-get udpate &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" command"
[10:51] <tsongki> Dai_1987, hell yeah! that was a very stupid idea. lol thanks again
[10:51] <kali_eskrima> ok k1l
[10:51] <sharpshooter> geirha, yes
[10:51] <lkeijser> marloshouse, hitsujiTMO: because we have customers that want implicit and explicit TLS
[10:51] <marloshouse> ah
[10:51] <marloshouse> not sure how to advise
[10:52] <kali_eskrima> k1l i will paste the results now..
[10:52] <geirha> sharpshooter: does   locate ieee80211.h   output anything?
[10:52] <k1l> kali_eskrima: yes
[10:52] <hitsujiTMO> lkeijser: install one via apt-get,  the other you'll have to manually build/install and set it up for a different port
[10:52] <Dai_1987> noisignal: is there a key combo for it? like FN+<button with picture of antenna on it>?
[10:52] <lkeijser> marloshouse: I think my only option is to cheat and use LXC ... but I was hoping apt could be tricked somehow
[10:53] <ScottUbuntu> Hello. Does anyone know of a financial program for linux that allows you to keep track of your transactions while also having a forecast of your bank balance that includes scheduled transactions. Like AceMoney Lite on Windows?
[10:53] <marloshouse> lkeijser, yea, i'm no apt-expert, so i really can't say, but manually installing/building one may be your only option
[10:53] <noisignal> Dai_1987, no, there is no key I can see. I just checked all Fn keys to see if there is a change when I use them. but nothing happened
[10:53] <sharpshooter> geirha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221900/
[10:53] <Dai_1987> noisignal: weird, and you're positive there's no HW switch?
[10:53] <lkeijser> hitsujiTMO: I'd rather not install anything manually as it'll be hell trying to maintain it, but yeah, next to using lxc it's probably my only option
[10:54] <noisignal> Dai_1987, yes
[10:54] <sharpshooter> geirha, above is the output of locate ieee8
[10:54] <Dai_1987> noisignal: also check BIOS, probably not there but can't hurt
[10:54] <sharpshooter> geirha, ieee*
[10:54] <geirha> sharpshooter: right, you have the file, but it's not in a net/ subdirectory like the code expects
[10:54] <foofoobar> k1l, so far no disconnects, I think this is the solution, thanks a lot!
[10:54] <noisignal> Dai_1987, yes
[10:55] <sharpshooter> geirha, so do i need to update the location in makefile ?
[10:55] <kali_eskrima> k1l done.. here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221906/
[10:55] <noisignal> Dai_1987, sorry..I checked bios, network boot is enabled. this is the only one that seems related
[10:55] <noisignal> in the bios
[10:55] <Dai_1987> noisignal: it seems that I can't help you, all I can say is try googling your laptop model, wifi, and ubuntu
[10:56] <noisignal> Dai_1987, thank you. I will try that way
[10:56] <geirha> sharpshooter: line 43 in ipwraw.c  try removing net/
[10:56] <ansu> hey folks. how do you deal with JAVA_HOME? I've installed openjdk 7 on 12.04 and now in /usr/lib/jvm I have java-7-openjdk-amd64 and java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd6 as symlink that points to the other directory. Do you set it in /etc/profiles or export it in every application's startup script?
[10:56] <noob7> thanks for the help guys. I sent a mail to the util-linux mailing list.
[10:57] <sharpshooter> geirha, ok
[10:57] <k1l> kali_eskrima: ok. your system is now up to date. what is your issue now? you dont find drivers? what dirvers do you want?
[10:57] <kali_eskrima> k1l it appears that it updated all without errors. now probably i have to restart the laptop to get in effect all the updates. and maybe the wifi will work. i have few more question to ask you but i will wait. no rush. is just bugging me because i have had problems since i installed this 12.04. even when i wanted to upgrade to 12.10 it completely crashed my ubuntu. couldnt do nothing.
[10:57] <kali_eskrima> oh yes
[10:57] <BluesKaj_> Hey folks
[10:57] <k1l> kali_eskrima: wifi drivers do not appear in that prop. driver section you mentioned
[10:58] <foo357> Hello. I have a ubuntu server that's running samba and dishing out a share. I upgraded the machine from 10.4 to 12.04 and now I'm having some issues with it. I have a linux client that can't get the share but I also have a few windows client that can.
[10:58] <k1l> kali_eskrima: the wifi gets managed from kernel drivers. not from external drivers like some video cards need etc
[10:59] <kali_eskrima> k1l oh yes ok good memory!  i went to "additional drivers" and tried to get updates and it said "no propretiary drivers are in use on this system". should i be concerned? i mean sounds like i dont have any drivers.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> foo357: if you run:  smbtree     do you see the shares?
[11:00] <foo357> ActionParsnip: on the server or the client?
[11:00] <kali_eskrima> k1l so kernel driver is the terminal command? so if i do the update (as i just did, suggested by you the sudo command) thats how i updated my wifi kernel driver and should work in my next restar?
[11:01] <k1l> kali_eskrima: no. i just means that you dont use drivers that are not included in the linux kernel already.  if you have a nvidia video card you could need such a prop. driver to get better 3d support (for videos and videogames etc). but there is no need to use that driver since linux already got another driver which nearly same functionality in the kernel
[11:02] <kali_eskrima> k1l.. oh
[11:02] <krambiorix> how can i change the dot in a comma on my numeric keypad??
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> foo357: both
[11:03] <k1l> kali_eskrima: that command you did makes sure you got that latest version that ubuntu ships. but depending on make and model and other circumstances this could need some more work. but in general that is enough.
[11:03] <k1l> kali_eskrima: but what is your actual problem?
[11:03] <icmpv6> !crash
[11:03] <icmpv6> i want to stop crash reports
[11:04] <sharpshooter> geirha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221922/
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> k1l i actualy went to "sys settings" - details - and i showed no drivers there either for my graphics.. it says "unknown".?
[11:04] <sharpshooter> geirha, above is the error output
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> my actual problem is wifi... disabled by the hardware swithch.
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> k1l i think now is or should be resolved.. will try in the restart soon
[11:05] <k1l> kali_eskrima: please put "sudo rfkill list" into a pastebin. and put "lsusb" and "lspci" into that too
[11:05] <geirha> sharpshooter: what does line 43 of that file look like?
[11:05] <sharpshooter> geirha, #include <ieee80211.h>
[11:05] <sharpshooter> geirha, before : #include <net/ieee80211.h>
[11:06] <kali_eskrima> k1l and my next problem is ...oh ok. will say later what is my problem. been having problems with 12.04 and i get lost. im new to linux and ubuntu. and i really really want to learn.
[11:06] <kali_eskrima> k1l hold on,. let me do the command
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:07] <foo357> ActionParsnip: hmm, yes. The output on both machines are identical.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> foo357: ok, can you ping the server from the clients?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> foo357: does the output show the shares correctly?
[11:08] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Hi I am returned, could you summarise your issue on one line for me please?
[11:08] <kali_eskrima> k1l did it.. here is your link http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221936/
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:09] <sharpshooter> geirha, what if we add change the path in line 43 to location of ieee80211.h
[11:09] <kali_eskrima> Rory thank you i have someone helping me already. i have another issue, but i want to first finish with the current issue im dealing.
[11:10] <frank____> C
[11:10] <kali_eskrima> ActionParsnip what do i do? what that means?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: run it in terminal and a single line will be output. Paste it to the channel please
[11:10] <blunblup> what do i type in terminal to find out my current user-session ?
[11:11] <Rory> blunblup: What do you mean by user-session? What sort of output would you expect?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> blunblup: env    will show you
[11:11] <k1l> kali_eskrima: your wifi is still blocked
[11:12] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Are you dual-booting with Windows? It's possible the wifi is somehow disabled using the driver in Windows, and that might be the only way to re-enable it again
[11:12] <foo357> ActionParsnip: yes the computers can reach eachother through the network, ping goes fine. I think the output shows the shares correctly, but I am not very familiar with samba
[11:12] <Rory> In absense of a hardware switch
[11:12] <hitsujiTMO> sharpshooter: what is the output of "uname -r" and "locate ieee80211.h" ??
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> foo357: the output is the shares which _you_ specified
[11:12] <k1l> kali_eskrima: there should be a hardware switch or a fn+…  key-combination. or if you have windows too it could be you must not disable that wifi in windows
[11:12] <blunblup> ActionParsnip: ok done thanks
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: its not a long command, what is output please?
[11:15] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, ouput of uname -r : ieee80211.h and output of locate ieee80211.h : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221951/
[11:15] <hitsujiTMO> uname -r
[11:15] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, sorry typo outpu of uname -r : 3.8.0-32-generic
[11:17] <hitsujiTMO> sharpshooter: you're running kernel 3.8.0-32-generic but you may not have the headers for it in /usr/src
[11:17] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, what should I do in order to add it in /usr/src
[11:18] <foo357> ActionParsnip: ok what can I else do to determine what's wrong
[11:18] <hitsujiTMO> sharpshooter what's the output of: ls -l /usr/src/
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> foo357: can you tell nautilus to connect to the share if you manually specify the share and server name in 'connect to server'?
[11:19] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6221968/
[11:19] <ItsMeLenny> is "File system is NOT clean." a problem?
[11:19] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, seems the file is removed from the kernel headers
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> ItsMeLenny: is it NTFS?
[11:19] <foo357> ActionParsnip: hm, well the "client" is another server more or less, it has no graphical DE
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> foo357: can you mount the share manually?
[11:20] <ItsMeLenny> ActionParsnip, Yes
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ItsMeLenny: then yes, Ubuntu will struggle with it
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ItsMeLenny: if you make sure you use the "safe remove" feature in your OS before you pysically unplug it, rather than just yanking it out. You will have fewer issues
[11:21] <ItsMeLenny> i have an external drive which never was a problem but now it is, but i think the fault in it is the controller board, and it took 10 hours to copy 10 gig, so now im putting everything onto this new drive and after 16gb i decided to check and it says not clean
[11:21] <loa> hello, my ubuntu unexpetedly halt, and i can't find any reason, it works good 99.9% of time but some times i found my PC with black screen and don't respond on commands
[11:21] <loa> what i can check?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ItsMeLenny: plug it into a Windows PC, chkdsk it then use the safe removal option in the system tray
[11:21] <sharpshooter> hitsujiTMO, do i need to create a link
[11:21] <ItsMeLenny> ActionParsnip, i wonder if thats what broke it, i would always use safe remove but it still has somehow played up
[11:21] <kali_eskrima> k1l  Rory ActionParsnip sorry i had an emergency
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ItsMeLenny: run a chkdsk on it, should help
[11:22] <ItsMeLenny> ActionParsnip, i have no windows
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ItsMeLenny: then why use ntfs?
[11:22] <ItsMeLenny> ActionParsnip, would it work in a virtual box
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ItsMeLenny: maybe, i'd ask in #vbox
[11:22] <loa> is there way to reinstall system without deleting home if i have only one partition?
[11:23] <loa> i have crypted home folder
[11:23] <Rory> loa: Back up /home to another drive
[11:23] <ItsMeLenny> ActionParsnip, its what came with the hard drive, it was pre formatted, and the hard drive im putting it onto which i made NTFS is because i plan to take it out and make it external, its my one i take places so it needs to be compatible with other OS's
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> loa: yes, mount the partition and run nautilus using gksudo and delete all folders except home
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> You might be able to force the ntfs to mount read only. but really - if you have no windows  - its time to switch that drive over to ext2/3/4
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> loa: why do you not have a backup?
[11:23] <loa> ActionParsnip, it is too big for me.