[21:09] <StudioUser33> Anybody have issues where the login of the live 23.10 version just hangs or locks up?  I have a 20 core poweredge with 98 gigs of ram and an nvidia card.  I got regular 23.10 installed on it with gnome and wayland working but i cant get this to go.  I'm hesitant to try the install before I can manage to fix the live environment


[10:18] <genkgo> apw: i am really sorry to bother again, but i just wont succeed in installing cloud tools generic for 3.19. apt only wants to install 3.13 cloud tools. what ppa or source should i add to install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/main/linux-cloud-tools-generic.
[10:18] <genkgo> the one i added now is ppa:canonical-kernel-team/ppa
[10:27] <infinity> genkgo: You're running utopic, right?
[10:27] <infinity> Err, trusty.
[10:28] <infinity> Brain not here.
[10:28] <apw> genkgo, yes they are deffo not well, i have submitted fixes for
[10:28] <infinity> genkgo: If you're running the lts-vivid kernel on trusty, you shouldn't be adding vivid sources to your sources.list.
[10:28] <genkgo> infinity: yes, i am running trusty with 3.19 (installed by ppa:canonical-kernel-team/ppa)
[10:29] <genkgo> apw: ok, so that means, at the moment I have to wait for the release of those fies, right?
[10:29] <genkgo> *fixes
[10:29] <infinity> One would think, with the current state of things, "apt-get install linux-cloud-tools-lts-vivid-generic linux-cloud-tools-common" would do the trick.
[10:29] <infinity> Or is that generic-lts-vivid?  Whatever.
[10:29]  * infinity looks.
[10:30] <rbasak> apw, smoser: could it be a udev hook somewhere that has a partition device file open in that case?
[10:30] <infinity> Yeah, linux-cloud-tools-generic-lts-vivid
[10:31] <genkgo> infinity: linux-cloud-tools-generic-lts-vivid : Depends: linux-cloud-tools-3.19.0-12-generic but it is not installable
[10:31] <genkgo> infinity: i guess that is what apw means with broken
[10:31] <infinity> Er, wat?
[10:31] <infinity> No, that's not what he meant by broken.
[10:31] <infinity> That's your sources.list being broken.
[10:31] <infinity> Since you should be at -17, not -12
[10:33] <genkgo> infinity: you are right
[10:33] <infinity> genkgo: If you have any vivid sources in your sources.list, you really shouldn't.  It should all be trusty.
[10:34] <genkgo> infinity: i removed the ppa:canonical-kernel-team/ppa before and replaced it with ppa:canonical-hwe-team/ppa to see what happened
[10:34] <genkgo> infinity: now I reverted it that
[10:34] <infinity> Bad things, I assume. :P
[10:34] <genkgo> and it will be installed
[10:35] <infinity> So, yeah.  You want linux-cloud-tools-generic-lts-vivid and linux-cloud-tools-common
[10:35] <infinity> The bug apw was referring to is that linux-cloud-tools-generic-lts-vivid doesn't depend on linux-cloud-tools-common, but installing it manually should work.
[10:35] <genkgo> infinity: what ppa should i use anyway? the hwe-team or the kernel-team? is there a difference?
[10:35] <infinity> genkgo: You shouldn't use either, ideally.
[10:36] <infinity> genkgo: But if you must use one, the kernel team's PPA is the source of goodness and light, and it's what feeds the Ubuntu archive.  The HWE PPA has no such guarantees.
[10:36] <genkgo> infinity: ok, i will use the kernel team then
[10:41] <genkgo> infinity: still things go wrong
[10:41] <genkgo> /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-cloud-tools-common_3.13.0-53.88_all.deb
[10:41] <genkgo> apt still tries to install some 3.13 packages
[10:41] <infinity> genkgo: It's supposed to.
[10:42] <infinity> genkgo: 3.13 (or, rather, the master branch, which is 3.13 in trusty) provides the One True tools-common package.  Everything else is meant to depend on it.
[10:42] <infinity> genkgo: That's why I told you to explicitly install it, because tools-lts-vivid doesn't currently depend on it, like it should.
[10:43] <infinity> genkgo: If that's all that went wrong, then everything went right.
[10:43] <genkgo> infinity: ok :)
[10:46] <genkgo> cool, now my hyperv daemon are running
[10:46] <genkgo> daemons
[10:49] <genkgo> hmm, they were, i rebooted to see if they would start automatically
[10:52] <genkgo> apw: no i am back to where i was yesterday: my hv daemons are not running
[10:52] <genkgo> initctl list | grep hv is empty
[10:53] <genkgo> there is no /etc/init/hv*
[10:54] <infinity> genkgo: Did you at any point delete them by hand?
[10:54] <genkgo> nope
[10:54] <genkgo> infinity: i just feel my cloud tools generic is still not installed right
[10:54] <infinity> Are you positive?  Cause linux-cloud-tools-common ships them.
[10:54] <infinity> But they're conffiles.
[10:54] <infinity> So, if you delete them, they don't come back.
[10:55] <genkgo> infinity: i never deleted those files
[10:55] <infinity> genkgo: dpkg -l linux-cloud-tools-common && dpkg -L linux-cloud-tools-common
[10:55] <infinity> genkgo: pastebin those for me.
[11:08] <genkgo> infinity: dpkg-query: package 'linux-cloud-tools-common' is not installed
[11:08] <infinity> genkgo: ...
[11:08] <infinity> genkgo: apt-get install linux-cloud-tools-common
[11:08] <infinity> genkgo: That was the 3.13 package you complained about apt trying to install.  It really should be installed.
[11:09] <infinity> genkgo: Install it, verify that /etc/init/hv* are there, reboot, and rejoice.
[11:11] <genkgo> infinity: i just remove everything related to cloud tools, run sudo aptitude purge '~c', now my systems looks as follows http://paste.ubuntu.com/11129000/
[11:11] <genkgo> now i repeat the steps you told me
[11:11] <infinity> genkgo: Not sure why you did that, but okay...
[11:11] <genkgo> infinity: because I was pretty lost
[11:12] <infinity> genkgo: "apt-get install linux-cloud-tools-generic-lts-vivid linux-cloud-tools-common"
[11:12] <infinity> genkgo: That's all it should take.  Those two packages installed.
[11:12] <infinity> (And whatever deps they pull in)
[11:12] <genkgo> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-cloud-tools-common_3.13.0-53.88_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:13] <genkgo> same as last time
[11:13] <infinity> I'll need more than that line.
[11:13] <genkgo> it just wont install
[11:13] <genkgo> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man8/hv_kvp_daemon.8.gz', which is also in package linux-lts-vivid-cloud-tools-common 3.19.0-17.17~14.04.1
[11:13] <infinity> Ah-ha.
[11:13] <infinity> apw: Okay, remove my ACK from your patch.  Your lts packages are NOT empty. :P
[11:14] <infinity> apw: You need a Conflict/Replace on them from the master one.
[11:14] <infinity> genkgo: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-cloud-tools-common_3.13.0-53.88_all.deb
[11:14] <infinity> genkgo: Should get you going for now.
[11:14] <infinity> genkgo: We'll fix things up here for the next versions.
[11:14] <apw> infinity, bah what is in them
[11:14] <infinity> apw: Looks like manpages, at least.  See above.
[11:15] <apw> and the patch for those is right no?  it is linux which needs to fix them
[11:15] <infinity> apw: Your patch for lts-* is right, yes, just incomplete without also fixing master.
[11:15] <infinity> apw: In the same SRU cycle, being the important part.  So the upgrade is smooth.
[11:15] <apw> yep
[11:16] <apw> gotcha
[11:16] <genkgo> infinity: rebooted, and see the daemons running :)
[11:17] <genkgo> wonderful: now hopefully, 3.19 wont get my system in read-only during vss snapshot
[11:17] <genkgo> infinity: thanks a lot for the help
[11:18] <genkgo> apw: and of course your help too, much appreciated
[11:30] <genkgo> infinity: during boot i still see these message [storvsc] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] and [storvsc] Add. Sense: Invalid command operation code.
[11:30] <genkgo> any idea what that means?
[11:31] <apw> genkgo, i think those are pretty normal on there
[11:32] <genkgo> apw: ok, thanks
[11:33] <genkgo> apw: just to be sure, my boot process also contains init: plymouth-upstart-bridge respawning too fast, stopped and scsi 3:7:1:1: scsi scan: INQUIRY result too short (5), using 36
[11:33] <genkgo> i just want to see as less errors as possible to just mitigate every possibility that it can cause the read-only problem
[11:38] <genkgo> hm  there is already a bug report for plymouth error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1309617
[11:39] <infinity> Yeah, the plymouth thing isn't anything to worry about.
[11:40] <apw> the inquiry too short is also common on those images
[11:42] <genkgo> apw infinity: ok i will stop worrying :) and just hope hyperv vss problems are resolved with the 3.19 kernel. i will report back to you, if you are interested
[11:43] <apw> infinity, ok those package _should_ be empty, but an interaction with another bug fix has made them contain something .... bah
[11:43] <apw> infinity, so at least i know why now ...
[11:44] <infinity> apw: Ahh, well.  Comedy of errors.  Keeps us employed, right? :P
[11:44] <apw> infinity, yeah i guess it does that ...
[11:44] <infinity> apw: Just make common Conflicts/Replaces lts-{utopic,vivid}-common, and life's good.
[11:45] <apw> infinity, and i am going to fix the bug that prevents the packages being empty like they should have been, ie preventing puking lots of errors about unknow packages
[13:33] <smoser> apw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11130592/
[13:33] <smoser> does that seem sane? as i'm seeing failures in it.
[13:59] <apw> smoser, what failure are you seeing with it though
[14:03] <smoser> BLKRRPART: Device or resource busy
[14:03] <smoser> failed[1]: ptwrite/blockdev: partition 1
[14:03] <smoser> [90432.37]
[14:04] <smoser> more commonly i think i'm seeing the partition 2 blockdev failing
[14:04] <smoser> but that one just failed
[14:04] <smoser> it runs seemingly forever on utopic
[14:04] <smoser> i'm pretty sure its udev thats letting go early.
[14:08] <rbasak> smoser: just been looking at the udev source. I'm pretty sure it's racy. Not sure if what we're trying to do is supported behaviour.
[14:09] <rbasak> I believe there's a race in that "udevadm settle" can return before udevd sees an event that the kernel has queued.
[14:10] <smoser> rbasak, continue in #ubuntu-server. apw you too if interested. as strikov and i talking there too.
[14:10] <rbasak> ack
[14:10] <apw> smoser, right that just tells you you oculdn't change the partitiont table because one of the parititons was busy
[14:11] <smoser> apw, right.
[15:23] <cmagina> question: what is the best way to get an upstream commit cherry-picked into an ubuntu kernel version? i have a couple upstream commits with SRU bugs already created in lp, one I submitted a request-pull for, but that doesn't seem like the correct way to handle this.
[15:29] <apw> cmagina, submitting them to the kernel-team@ list is the right way to do it
[15:30] <cmagina> apw: is there any special format for that e-mail? i've been using request-pull for my own submissions, but those are modified upstream commits or applied patches type deal
[15:31]  * cmagina just submitted an upstream commit in that manner, thus the question of how i should do this properly :)
[15:32] <apw> i'd just send the upstream patch from format-patch
[15:32] <cmagina> ok
[15:32] <cmagina> thanks


[00:38] <c-mate> wew thats an intense password
[00:39] <c-mate> ok screen cracked on me
[00:39] <c-mate> now im on inspiron 1525
[03:10] <sekreta> Hi, has anyone successfully gotten Private Internet Access running in 16.04 recently? All the guides and forum posts I have found online and followed have been unsuccessful.
[16:49] <18WAABBOV> I need help, i had just installed ubuntu-mate on my new laptop [Lenovo 100s] but my power always stays at 100% so i have to install a new battery driver bu found no one please hel me!
[17:02] <18WAABBOV> I need help, i had just installed ubuntu-mate on my new laptop [Lenovo 100s] but my power always stays at 100% so i have to install a new battery driver bu found no one please hel me!
[21:16] <Burn2> hello
[21:16] <Burn2> if someone is already here, i have got a question to confirm a bug on "mate + compiz"
[21:21] <Snipes> Hi Burn2. What's the bug?
[21:21] <Burn2> Hi Snipes
[21:21] <Burn2> Here is the problem, that i could reproduce on the live cd without any upgrade
[21:21] <Burn2> so i enable compiz in the option of mate tweak.
[21:22] <Burn2> With compiz enable, alt + tab does not show the minimised application has it should. The option is already on on the pluggin, i have tested all the pluggin that does that on compiz and it's already the same
[21:23] <Burn2> On the panel, the application is here, i could call it back again, so it's just like the "alt + tab" does not see it when it's minimised, even if the option to take care of it is enabled
[21:23] <Burn2> In fact if i use the "alt + tab option for all the desktop" i see the minimised application
[21:24] <Burn2> but not on the option for the curent desktop even if the application is on this panel
[21:25] <Burn2> sometimes after minimised it disapear from the panel too, the application is steal running, but mate does not see it again. It only appear with compiz, not with the default option or compton
[21:25] <Burn2> (and with all the update, it's the same of course)
[21:26] <Snipes> I also have Compiz. Gonna check it out
[21:29] <Burn2> The disaparition seems to appear less, perhaps it's when i use the "all deskop alt + tab" that show the windows, and then when i minimise it it disapear from the panel too (i should take a look to confirm), it's like compiz and mate does not really work togever and something goes wrong
[21:30] <Burn2> thank's Snipes.
[21:31] <Snipes> Minimized windows disappear here also when using Application switcher
[21:32] <Burn2> so it's the same problem. And do you confirm the over part? That alt + tab does not show the minimised application?
[21:32] <Snipes> I'm using Shift switcher
[21:33] <Snipes> In Shift switcher you can do Alt + Super + Tab and that is showing minimized windows
[21:33] <Burn2> i have tested all, and always have the same problem
[21:34] <Burn2> yes Snipes but, it will show the application of all the desktop, that's the same
[21:34] <Burn2> so it's the same problem then me, it does not work has it should. :/
[21:34] <Snipes> Strange. I only have the bug in Application Switcher
[21:35] <Snipes> But yes, normal switching in Shift Switcher also doesn't show minimized windows
[21:35] <Burn2> i am on "ring switcher", and it's the same, alt tab "normal" does not show the minimised application, only if i use all worksplace
[21:35] <Burn2> so you confirm the bug :/
[21:36] <Burn2> where does this bug could be reported? is it more compiz or mate related?
[21:36] <Snipes> Yes. But is this also in other distro's? You should Google it. I don't really miss it, so I never researched the bug :P
[21:36] <Burn2> i have google it and found nothing
[21:37] <Burn2> it's like nobody found the bug...
[21:37] <Snipes> Than it could be a Mate bug
[21:37] <Snipes> Couldn't hurt to report it to Mate and Compiz
[21:37] <Burn2> i was going to use ubuntu mate, but then with such bug i could not :(
[21:37] <Burn2> i could confirm that on xfce + compiz on ubuntu 14.04 all was ok
[21:38] <Snipes> So why not use xfce?
[21:38] <Snipes> It's a good distro. I just couldn't get some themes working, so I tried Mate and stuck with it
[21:39] <Burn2> because on the xubuntu 16.04 i have got problem with compiz too
[21:39] <Burn2> but it was on the "panel"
[21:40] <Burn2> not panel, on the theme of the decorator
[21:40] <Burn2> but could be related to the upgrade from 14.04
[21:40] <Burn2> so after testing mate, i found it good. So i have made a clean install with made, thinking that all would be ok has it's an official integration of compiz
[21:41] <Burn2> i will test fresh install with xubuntu + compiz see if all is ok
[21:41] <Burn2> i am connected to irc made to see if it's just related to "ubuntu" integration/version of mate
[21:42] <Snipes> xfce and Compiz has been problematic for me in previous versions. so I haven't used compiz with xfce. I find Mate to work better with compiz than xfce
[21:43] <Burn2> i do not have any problem before with xfce, that's a lot of time i use it on all my computer
[21:43] <Snipes> But I cant remember if the Alt + Tab problem also was in Xubuntu, so you'll heve to test it
[21:44] <Snipes> I had it the other way around :P
[21:44] <Burn2> in 14.04 that was not the same, i will test on the 16.04 to see, but i doupt.
[21:44] <Snipes> But it could be a hardware difference. You never know
[21:45] <Burn2> perhaps, but i am using it on a lot of different computer, one with intel igp sandy bridge, one with nvidia 250GTS, an other with an old 6600go with no problem
[21:46] <Burn2> for the mate + compiz pb, it's more related to the integration. But it could be the version of compiz, or the "old" version or mate that make the problem
[21:46] <Snipes> I used to be a distro hopper, but I've settled with Mate now, so I can't tell you anything about the new Xubuntu, so you'll have to install it. But installing Linux is fun :P
[21:47] <Burn2> yes no problem, it's a test computer, so i could do it, with no problem for my production, my other computer is steal on 14.04 until i found what i will use. :d
[21:48] <Burn2> but, it's bad that except that, everything was good on the ubuntu mate version. :/
[21:52] <Burn2> i have see that ubuntu use the 1.12.1 version where as the latest is 1.16, and on the 1.14 i see thing related to "alt + tab"
[21:56] <Burn2> i could test linux mint mate version to see if it's the same, when i have got time, that would confirm that's version related
[21:58] <Snipes> I think testing is the only option at the moment. i can't find anything online either. Only some bugfixes for minimized windows in Unity
[22:01] <Snipes> Now I'm actively searching for bugs in compiz in Google, I have found some more. Luckily no bugs that I would stop using Mate of Compiz :)
[22:02] <Burn2> yes i am upgrading to the mate 1.14 from the ppa to see if it solve or not the problem, if it solve it would be an information
[22:02] <Burn2> but i do not know where to report the bug after that
[22:03] <Burn2> ok i come back, i have to reboot, to see if it's solve or not. If i do not come back, it would be that i have brocken mate :d
[22:04] <Snipes> Ok. Good luck
[22:05] <burn2> Ok nothing brocken :d
[22:05] <burn2> V 1.14.1, let see if it solve or not the problem
[22:05] <Snipes> cool
[22:06] <burn2> nothing change....
[22:07] <Snipes> Too bad.
[22:07] <burn2> so it's more related to compiz perhaps
[22:08] <Snipes> That would be logical.
[22:08] <burn2> will see if i could found a ppa with updated version of compiz...
[22:10] <Snipes> I have to go, but good luck with testing!
[22:12] <burn2> ok thank's; i will have to go too, i do not find any ppa for compiz...


[07:29] <bkerensa> ohai philipballew
[07:38] <philipballew> bkerensa, hello
[07:38] <philipballew> sup!
[07:39] <bkerensa> nothing much just working on bugs
[07:39] <bkerensa> :D
[07:39] <philipballew> wanna do some java while your at it?
[07:46] <bkerensa> :s
[07:48] <philipballew> Homework dude...
[07:52] <philipballew> bkerensa, wanna upvote two posts?
[07:53] <philipballew> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/13475h/san_diego_ubuntu_hour_this_thursday_come_and_get/
[07:53] <darthrobot`> Title: [San Diego Ubuntu Hour this Thursday.  : Ubuntu]
[07:53] <philipballew> http://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/137im4/san_diego_ubuntu_users_meetup_tomorrow/
[07:53] <darthrobot`> Title: [San Diego Ubuntu users meetup tomorrow! : sandiego]
[07:56] <bkerensa> philipballew: done
[07:56] <philipballew> nice.
[07:56] <philipballew> Gonna be giving away lots of swag tomorrow
[07:57] <philipballew> giving away swag = philipballew tries to de-clutter his room
[07:57] <bkerensa> same for me
[07:57] <bkerensa> :)
[07:57] <bkerensa> I still have too much mozillaswag
[07:57] <bkerensa> =/
[07:57] <philipballew> I have like 30 ubuntu books
[07:58] <bkerensa> I reported back and was like "yeah I dont think I will need to order swag for a few events you sent way too much"
[07:58] <bkerensa> they were like "actually better order more and stock up"
[07:58] <bkerensa> =/
[07:58] <bkerensa> My closet in my office is turning into a warehouse
[07:59] <philipballew> My dorm room is a southern California Ubuntu distribution center.
[07:59] <bkerensa> I have two huge tubs full of swag and then boxes full of gadgetry to the ceiling
[07:59] <bkerensa> Routers... Headphones... Cell phones.... you name it
[07:59] <bkerensa> :s
[08:00]  * philipballew needs headphones
[08:00] <philipballew> have any recomendations?
[08:00] <philipballew> For cell phones I always do the cheapest possible and I think your area of knowledge is smart phones.
[08:01] <philipballew> what does your GF think of this bkerensa ?
[08:08] <bkerensa> philipballew: meh I don't think she minds much
[08:08] <bkerensa> its my office
[08:08] <bkerensa> :)
[08:08] <philipballew> ah, yeah. That seems chill. When is the weeding planned for?
[08:13] <bkerensa> philipballew: not sure yet
[08:13] <philipballew> ah, no worries
[08:27] <bkerensa> philipballew: its really about scheduling and time
[08:27] <bkerensa> we are taking our first vacation in two years this weekend
[08:27] <bkerensa> ;0
[08:32] <philipballew> oh wow. Where you guys going bkerensa ?
[08:38] <bkerensa> philipballew: Cape Arago
[08:39] <philipballew> Nice! This sounds fun.
[08:39] <philipballew> How long you gonna be there?>
[08:39] <bkerensa> philipballew: tomorrow through Monday
[08:40] <bkerensa> but I will be taking the week after off from any kind of work too :)
[08:40] <bkerensa> lazy days ahead
[08:43] <philipballew> nice. I get off Tuesday and gonna book it by plane to sad that night.
[08:44] <philipballew> This next week will be a lazy week for many americans I think
[08:44] <bkerensa> philipballew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tiq29jZT_k
[08:44] <darthrobot`> Title: [Cape Arago Waves.mov - YouTube]
[08:46] <bkerensa> philipballew: Have you ever went flying? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmINtDNzLys
[08:46] <darthrobot`> Title: [Flying At Cape Arago On The Oregon Coast - YouTube]
[08:46] <bkerensa> :D
[08:48] <philipballew> oh, well heres where I am now http://www.pointloma.edu/sites/default/files/imagecache/landing2_1col_banner/landing2_banner/goodwin.jpg . And here is where I will be going. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/312839_2180851154111_4168551_n.jpg(My home)
[08:48] <darthrobot`> Content type: [image/jpeg] Size: [28641]
[08:48] <philipballew> bkerensa, I dont fly often
[08:49] <philipballew> But I always do southwest
[08:49] <philipballew> best deals I have found so far
[08:49] <bkerensa> lol
[08:49] <bkerensa> did u see the flying on the cliff? :)
[08:49] <philipballew> yeah!
[08:50] <philipballew> Is that normal for there bkerensa ?>
[08:50] <philipballew> thats my bro riding his bike on the roof
[08:50] <bkerensa> philipballew: not normal but it happens during storms... its pretty wild coast :)
[08:51] <philipballew> oh, if you ever need a calm one, sd has you covered
[08:51] <bkerensa> I used to go there every summer and stay at a house right on the cape and watch huge cargo ships get knocked around in the sea like a leaf
[08:51] <bkerensa> my cousin is a commercial fisherman and a whale hit his boat out there
[08:51] <bkerensa> :D
[08:51] <bkerensa> he was 10 miles off coast sleeping when it happened too
[08:51] <philipballew> The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to. return soup at a deli!
[08:54] <bkerensa> I love the sea.... Its a dangerous force but still so nice :)
[08:54] <philipballew> Ive never been to the ocean and I have lived in sd for two years
[08:54] <bkerensa> One time I was out fishing for rock fish and cod and we were in water that had lots of rocks submerged and we went over a rock and it killed our prop
[08:54] <bkerensa> :)
[08:54] <bkerensa> we were a sitting duck for waves
[08:55] <bkerensa> luckily we had two boats on the ocean and got towed in :)
[08:55] <bkerensa> there is no way in those waters you can survive until the coasties arrive
[08:55] <bkerensa> unless you magically have a survival suit
[08:55] <philipballew> or just dont go there!
[08:56]  * philipballew does not own a swimsuit
[08:56]  * philipballew is a boring prude
[08:57] <philipballew> so basically it was a miracle for bkerensa
[17:03] <philipballew> kdub, if your able to or want to come out to the coffee meet-up tonight, dont feel in a time pressure. I'll probably be there till a solid 7:30 to 8.
[17:07] <kdub> philipballew, sure :) i want to come, sometimes my end of the day is unpredictable though
[17:07] <kdub> i'll bring the ringtail shirt
[17:07] <pleia2> I saw kdub at uds! :)
[17:08] <philipballew> alright, Ill bring the fun.
[17:09] <philipballew> I always say I will be bringing free stuff to give away and people think that means I want to give them stuff.
[17:09] <philipballew> But it really means my room is to cluttered with stuff and I need to get rid of it
[17:10] <kdub> pleia2, indeed! i didn't make it to many sessions though...
[17:10] <kdub> i'm hoping the next one is in CA, shorter trip
[17:10] <philipballew> I keep hearing that kdub
[17:11] <kdub> well, the rumors usually tend to be true :)
[17:11] <philipballew> Usually indeed.
[22:03] <raevol> philipballew: ubuntu hour tonight right?
[22:08] <pleia2> yep, he was talking about it with kdub earlier
[22:10] <raevol> cool
[22:41] <philipballew> yeah, raevol if my internet works we can see my download steam.
[22:41] <philipballew> raevol, im bringing you a ubuntu unity book as well and some cd's
[22:48] <philipballew> Not sure what portal is but I have it
[22:51] <raevol> \o/
[22:51] <raevol> git makes my head spin: http://drupal.org/node/803746
[22:51] <darthrobot`> Title: [Building a Drupal site with Git | drupal.org]
[22:51] <raevol> i mean, i kind of understand it... but i still feel so lost
[23:32]  * raevol huggles rsync


[02:06] <jphilips> bluesabre: went to check transifex for menulibre and i see 'Malay (Arabic)' but no 'Arabic'
[02:07] <jphilips> same for mugshot
[04:49] <rasyid_rafi> Excuse me guys, how to get started


[21:57] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[21:58] <Umeaboy> A little while ago I added the PPA for Ubuntu to install thunderbird-trunk and the package can't be installed because it seems to be removed from the PPA, but the launchpad page shows that the package still exists.


[02:59] <TheMuso> p/c
[08:18] <janimo> ogra_, around?
[08:38] <ogra_> janimo, now, yep
[11:01] <marvin24> ogra_: I just received message from nvidia that the gstreamer modules are lgpl (sources come later)
[11:01] <ogra_> awesome !
[11:01] <marvin24> the nvgstplayer/recorder are not lgpl, but the "LICENSE" applies
[11:02] <marvin24> which means, AFAIU, they can be redistributed by linux distros
[11:02] <marvin24> but not by anything else
[11:04] <marvin24> this is the "License For Customer Use of NVIDIA Software"
[11:04] <ogra_> yeah, thats the std thing for all driver packages
[11:05] <ogra_> same as x86
[15:07] <janimo> marvin24, do you know if the ac100 android drivers for the webcam worked out of the box with V4L on Linux?
[15:08] <janimo> from what I see android webcam drivers are not necessarily V4L compatible as they rely on userspace services to provide a unified camera API
[15:11] <ogra_> janimo, yes, they did
[15:11] <ogra_> janimo, the advantage of having an uvcvideo compatible cam :)
[15:11] <janimo> good to know :)
[15:58] <marvin24> yeah, the nvidia interface is totally crap
[15:59] <ogra_> yup, luckily we didnt need to use it on the ac100
[16:01] <marvin24> on the other hand, I guess using usb for nearly everything eats a lot of power
[16:01] <marvin24> there must be a reason for i2c, spi, iio, and all the other strange busses
[16:06] <ogra_> yeah


 presume a few of the testcases will have to be rewritten and many installation guides in documentation will have to be as well :
[08:25] <BenWibking> I've opened a bug for the kernel panic I get when trying to boot the hirsute beta ISO in a VM. is this something anyone can reproduce or suggest a way to get debugging logs? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1922403
 New Daily image out
 As far as I know only relevant bugfixes would be backported. As for translations, I do not know where updates for LTS releases originate. (re @philipz: @RikMills @popeydc: when updates to ubiquity happen in later releases, does the newer installer get used in the previous LTS point release?)
 okay thanks
 people like jibel/didrocks/Laney etc may know
 @BenWibking, another user had same issue. Workaround was to use gen 1 instead of gen 2. Of course, I have no idea what any of that means. 😇
 Forwarded from Hjörleifur: Kernel panic in hyper-v gen2 vm hirsute-desktop-amd64.iso from today :
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> would it be an idea to add a LP link in topic with the hirsute only bugs ?
 On a blind user mode install (which is working only on Ubuntu), when the installer waits at 'Please remove the installation medium, then press ENTER', how will the blind user know that he has to press return/enter? 🤔
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> saivinob: i assume all things before GUI setup wont be speech for blind ppl?
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> before/after
 it currently is not. I wonder if it is possible.
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> saivinob; perhaps from a live setup its possible, did you test that?
 I just did a blinduser mode install on UM. Upto asking user to restart OK but then it stays waiting for us to remove the medium and press enter. So was thinking.
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> saivinob: well i assume medium remove is already part of the text reboot process? not sure thats gonna be possible
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> saivinob: but it might be an idea for a wishlist to integrate a speech before reboot, saying wait few minutes then remove medium?
 may be. just wondered. 😊
[12:18] <qydw> 21.04.14 is coming, mainly Python and ubiquity update?
 ubiquity (21.04.14) hirsute; urgency=medium
   * zys-setup: ZFS generator is enabled by default (LP: #1922402)
 Kernel Freeze soon
 today iirc
 yeah in 30-60 minutes
 Where on earth did that timing come from? (re @bittin1: yeah in 30-60 minutes)
 think its usually around 6-7pm my time (re @RikMills: Where on earth did that timing come from?)
 Freezes happen when release team think they are right to do. There is honestly no firm set time, and exceptions are quite common. I don't wish to sound awkward, but declaring that these things are due to happen at a certain time is not very helpful.
 or at least can give the wrong impression to people
 The keenness and enthusiasm behind it is very much appreciated however. Just making assumptions is not always great
 I must sound very grumpy. lol. it is not meant like that 😳
 Forwarded from unknown: Hi everyone, Unity7 is now on GitLab (https://gitlab.com/unity-7). Also, it can now be compiled on newer versions of Ubuntu, like 20.04 and 20.10. You can also contribute to it now.
 Hi all!
 hey


[07:53] <Scary_Guy> https://twitter.com/ComplainerWide/with_replies
[12:51] <cmaloney> yeah, whomever made.that bot has my thanks


[05:38] <magespawn> good morning
[08:06] <pavlushka> magespawn: goodmorning :)
[11:55] <chesedo> afternoon pavlushka magespawn and others
[11:56] <pavlushka> afternoon chesedo
[12:09] <CraigZim> hello


[00:00] <clivejo> I know I have to do the last two changelogs
[00:01] <sgclark> I *hope* it will merge properly next cycle with the fixes.
[00:01] <clivejo> but Im trying to merge libkface
[00:01] <clivejo> and the changelog isnt being merged properly
[00:02] <clivejo> maxy made a new changelog entry for it a few days ago
[00:02] <clivejo> but it isnt being displayed at the top
[00:02] <clivejo> this is so confusing
[00:03] <sgclark> I just fix them to go in order by date. Why it is messing up, I do not have answers :(
[00:04]  * sgclark curses at kwallet-pam CI stalker
[00:04]  * clivejo kicks KCI
[00:04] <clivejo> I didnt break it!!
[00:04] <sgclark> me either lol
[00:04] <clivejo> you are using the wrong f'ing branch
[00:05]  * clivejo goes crazy
[00:12]  * valorie makes so calming tea for the workers
[00:12] <clivejo> to have tea or not to have tea
[00:13] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ
[00:14] <clivejo> dont make them drink tea!
[00:17] <yofel> for some reason, quassel shows the blame CI messages in my freenode server window, not the actually channel
[00:18] <yofel> so I never see those ^^
[00:18] <yofel> *actual
[00:18] <clivejo> lucky you!
[00:18] <sgclark> lol yeah lucky you
[00:18] <clivejo> yofel: could you please help me with libkface
[00:18] <sgclark> no matter what channel I am in it stalks me with blame messages
[00:18] <clivejo> pretty please
[00:19] <yofel> well, with what exactly?
[00:19] <clivejo> I dunno the changelog looks wrong
[00:19] <clivejo> its like its not merging it correctly
[00:19] <yofel> can happen
[00:19] <sgclark> sort by date..
[00:20] <sgclark> cut and paste, no other way.
[00:20] <clivejo> maxy's entry should be at the top
[00:20] <yofel> dpkg-mergechangelogs should sort by version automatically
[00:20] <clivejo> but its not
[00:20] <yofel> it sometimes failes though
[00:20] <yofel> *fails
[00:20] <sgclark> yofel it is not in many cases sadly
[00:20] <clivejo> does it tell you when it fails?
[00:20] <yofel> it works in a lot of cases for me, if it fails it usually shows merge conflicts in changelog
[00:20] <sgclark> changelogs seems to be the biggest problem in these merges. no idea why it is failing so much
[00:21] <clivejo> yofel: would you mind doing it and letting me know what wrong?
[00:21] <yofel> well, worst case you can also just take the individual changelogs and feed them into merge-changelogs
[00:21] <clivejo> its driving me crazy
[00:21] <sgclark> right and then I cut and paste in correct order, and all is well with the world.
[00:22] <yofel> I never had to cut and paste o.O
[00:22] <yofel> maybe a changelog or two didn't play well together and I had a fix something by hand, but I never had ordering issues
[00:23] <yofel> like, can you pastebin what you have right now?
[00:23] <sgclark> alright then, congratulations.
[00:23] <sgclark> I am off. laters
[00:23] <yofel> cu
[00:26] <clivejo> ah, I think I know whats wrong
[00:26] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkface.git/tree/debian/changelog
[00:26] <clivejo> maxy has forgot the epoch
[00:27] <clivejo> no
[00:27] <clivejo> hes renamed it and dropped it
[00:27] <yofel> we should do the same
[00:28] <yofel> but yeah, the epoch messed things up
[00:28] <clivejo> does that upset dpkg-mergechangelogs?
[00:29] <yofel> sure, after all 15.12.0 < 4:15.04.1
[00:30] <clivejo> how do I merge them?
[00:30] <clivejo> libkface (4:14.12.2-2) experimental; urgency=medium isnt in my supposely merged changelog
[00:31] <clivejo> if I took maxy's entry out of master locally and merged that would it work?
[00:32] <yofel> the result looks okay already?
[00:32] <yofel> ah no, the 14.12.3 changelog needs to go one step up
[00:32] <clivejo> no, my results look very wrong
[00:33] <yofel> ah well
[00:33] <yofel> I don't see that ^^
[00:36] <yofel> what you could do:
[00:36] <yofel> make a copy of the debian changelog, temporarily add the epoch, feed both changelogs to merge-changelog, then remove the epoch again
[00:36] <yofel> that might give you something sensible
[00:37] <yofel> might also require changing the package name back
[00:37] <yofel> clivejo: ^
[00:37] <clivejo> Ive removed maxy's entry from master
[00:37] <clivejo> commited locally
[00:37] <clivejo> merged that into xenial archive
[00:38] <clivejo> and added his back
[00:38] <clivejo> hes only on libkf5kface (15.12.0-1) experimental; urgency=medium
[00:38] <clivejo> so Ive added a new changelog libkf5kface (15.12.1-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium
[00:38] <yofel> that might mess up git's auto merge tracking with a commit that doesn't really belong in there... but I might worry too much
[00:38] <clivejo> for .1
[00:38] <yofel> ack
[00:39] <clivejo> do you want to fix it
[00:39] <clivejo> its frying my brain
[00:40] <yofel> nah, we can fix that later
[00:41] <yofel> nobody reads the git history anyway
[00:41] <clivejo> so should I push what Ive done?
[00:41] <clivejo> makes sense in my head
[00:41] <yofel> go ahead
[00:47] <clivejo> yofel: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkface.git/log/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive
[00:47] <clivejo> does that look ok?
[00:48] <yofel> yes
[00:49] <clivejo> is it how you would do it?
[00:49] <clivejo> I wonder why maxy didnt upload 15.12.1 :/
[00:50] <yofel> ah, remove the changelog for 4:15.12.0-0ubuntu1 please
[00:51] <yofel> that's UNRELEASED
[00:51] <yofel> and maybe mention the merge in the new changelog entry
[00:51] <yofel> everything else looks about right
[00:53] <clivejo> ok done and uploaded to LP
[00:54] <clivejo> is experimental like an archive?
[00:55] <clivejo> ie maxy wont just bump that to 15.12.1?
[00:55] <yofel> latter I don't know, but experimental is a debian series, like unstable
[00:56] <yofel> it's used to prepare packages for unstable, either for testing or to gather all packages for a transition
[00:56] <yofel> they use it mostly like we use PPAs
[00:56] <clivejo> when you copy to xenial archive is there a script goes and updated the changelogs from UNRELEASED to xenial?
[00:56] <yofel> yes
[00:57] <clivejo> any how, time for bed!
[00:57] <clivejo> night all
[00:57] <yofel> nini
[09:34] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:54] <clivejo> yofel: cant seem to upload libkface - Unable to find libkf5kface_15.12.1.orig.tar.xz in upload or distribution.
[09:54] <clivejo> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[10:20] <clivejo> lot of failures today
[10:22] <clivejo> oh kio is broken again!
[10:23] <lordievader> :(
[10:24] <clivejo> missing files and symbols
[10:43] <clivejo> yofel OR sgclark: in kio there are some new files - https://paste.kde.org/pwkjm3rrq  I cant see where they are supposed to go?  maybe a new package kiogui?
[10:53] <clivejo> also<EMAIL_ADDRESS>seems to indicate a new package
[13:39] <ovidiu-florin> hello humans
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> how do I add an article to Kubuntu wire?
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[13:50] <soee_> mparillo: ^
[14:22] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin
[14:22] <Riddell> let me see
[14:24] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: /msged
[14:25] <clivejo> Riddell: do KDE publish packaging guidelines somewhere?
[14:26] <clivejo> kio has new files for a libKF5KIOGui
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:37] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[14:38] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[14:38] <clivejo> anyone able to help me with a broken package issue?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> clivejo, which package?
[14:41] <clivejo> kolab
[14:41] <clivejo> Ive confused myself
[14:41] <clivejo> need new set of eyes
[14:42] <BluesKaj> never used kolab :/
[14:43] <clivejo> have you looked into broken packages before?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> only from the pov of fixing dependencies with usual commands , like sudo dpkg --configure -a, and sudo apt -f install or rolling back the system by ppa-purge
[14:55] <BluesKaj> clivejo,^
[14:55] <clivejo> oh ok
[14:56] <clivejo> this is a problem with a control file, but I cant put my finger on it
[14:59] <BluesKaj> i have fixed the odd dependency issue by installing the last required dependency listed by apt and moving up the list until they are all installed, but that method was only successful a few times, usually it's more hit and miss
[15:32] <clivejo> grrrr
[15:33] <clivejo> how did I manage that!
[15:41] <Riddell> clivejo: there's no packaging guidelines except occationally for some projects that chose to add a README like calligra
[15:57] <ScottK> yofel: I still get the daily "Kubuntu daily CD health check" mails.  Would you please figure another alternate recipient and ask cjwatson to add them and remove me?
[15:58] <yofel> oh, I get those these days, I guess he didn't remove you. I'll ask him
[15:58] <ScottK> Thanks.  I do think it's good if you have an alternate to receive them.
[15:59] <yofel> riiight. I think I even made a todo task for that, but we never decided on one..
[16:17] <clivejo> yofel: did you get my message about libkface?
[16:18] <yofel> clivejo: missed it, seems like you uploaded without the tarball
[16:19] <clivejo> do I have to rename the tarball?
[16:19] <yofel> well, you already did do that, right? Otherwise the upload error makes no sense
[16:19] <clivejo> yofel: kio has a new lib
[16:20] <yofel> there's also some watch file magic to rename stuff I believe
[16:20] <clivejo> I created a new package in the control file
[16:20] <yofel> I'll look at that later, distracted right now
[16:20] <clivejo> but Im getting a lintian warning
[16:20] <clivejo> W: libkf5kiogui5: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5KIOGui.so.5.19.0 usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5KIOGui.so
[16:21] <clivejo> new package contains these new files - https://paste.kde.org/pwkjm3rrq#line-9
[16:23] <blaze> clivejo: *.so files are usually symlinks, those should be placed into "*-dev" packages
[16:24] <clivejo> I think that whole lib is for dev?
[16:24] <clivejo> header files too
[16:25] <blaze> yeah, header files should go to -dev
[16:25] <clivejo> so I need a libkf5kiogui5 and a libkf5kiogui5-dev package?
[16:27] <blaze> yes
[16:28] <blaze> and libkf5kiogui5-dbg I think
[17:16]  * soee_ has to upload 185 MB ... takes 35 min ...
[17:16] <clivejo> how come?
[17:16] <soee_> upload here in Poland sux :<
[17:30] <blaze> soee_: jaki ISP?
[17:31] <soee_> blaze: neo/orange
[17:35] <BluesKaj> soee_, what are the up and down speeds on your internet package?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> usually the up speeds aren't paid much attention, but in your case it's important I think
[17:38] <BluesKaj> usually the up speeds aren't paid much attention
[17:39] <soee_> BluesKaj: download is up to 10 Mb/s
[17:40] <soee_> uploads something like 960 KB/s
[17:40] <soee_> *96 KB
[17:54] <BluesKaj> soee_, yeah, that's quite slow ..very similar to miy up speed 100kbs , but i don't pay mch for my inyernet, only $35 Canadian/mos
[17:55] <BluesKaj> internet  even :-)
[21:44] <mparillo> ovidiu-florin: It looks as if Riddell sent you access, but I see nothing new.
[21:44] <ovidiu-florin> because I'm looking into how to repost
[21:44] <Riddell>  I did
[21:45] <ovidiu-florin> and not copy paste the article
[21:45] <ovidiu-florin> https://arpadtoth.wordpress.com/2016/02/05/increasing-battery-life-on-kubuntu/
[23:13] <valorie> sgclark: when you have a moment, clivejo wants you to look at his merges and give him some feedback
[23:13] <valorie> but he doesn't want to disturb you by asking
[23:13]  * valorie isn't so polite always....
[23:22] <clivejo> konsole keeps hanging on me
[23:23] <clivejo> http://postimg.org/image/kzauwc11z/
[23:25] <valorie> hmmm
[23:25] <valorie> I use yakuake
[23:27] <clivejo> its the paste that crashes it
[23:28] <valorie> can you run that in gdb and figure out why?
[23:28] <valorie> !gdb
[23:28] <valorie> pfff
[23:28] <valorie> stupid ubottu
[23:29] <clivejo> its doesnt crash, I think its something to do with the focus of that window
[23:29] <valorie> http://community.kde.org/Amarok/Development/DebuggingHowTo
[23:29] <valorie> gdb should figure out a freeze too
[23:31] <DarinMiller> how are you pasting? ctrl-shift-v, right click mouse, or ?
[23:33] <clivejo> ctrl-shift-v
[23:33] <clivejo> now dolphin is crashing
[23:33] <clivejo> FFS
[23:36]  * valorie runs off for a few mins


[00:00] <GridCube> oh it breaks things up
[00:02] <GridCube> should i report a bug for that?
[00:23] <charlie-tca> no
[00:23] <charlie-tca> Hopefully, it will start working soon
[00:42] <GridCube> ok
[04:18]  * GridCube from #xubuntu-es : xubuntu is very polished and cool
[06:08] <Unit193> I got back about midnight, I don't think a test would help at this point :( (And I'm a little dead after helping moving...)
[14:32] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: I commented on bug 803499, it's also waiting for lightdm (I could also ship this file in xubuntu-default-settings, but it's better if it's in lightdm directly)
[14:33] <charlie-tca> Thanks.
[14:33] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: no, bug 803519 doesn't affect us afaik
[14:33] <charlie-tca> Okay, just wanted to make sure.
[14:34]  * charlie-tca suspects Unity is making things harder for Xubuntu
[14:34] <mr_pouit> it could affect xfce upstream though
[14:35] <mr_pouit> e.g. if some xfce program uses OnlyShowIn=XFCE;GNOME;, unity folks might want that to be OnlyShowIn=XFCE;GNOME;Unity;
[14:35] <charlie-tca> yeah
[14:36] <charlie-tca> or they might change some of what we had changed, too. Some of the stuff was OnlyShowIn=GNOME and we had to add XFCE to them
[16:44] <jarnos> Would anyone try this by latest development Xubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/51514/internal-display-is-off-is-this-a-bug (note that you might need to change the display ids to match your hardware.)
[16:46] <charlie-tca> What do you mean by try this? Wouldn't a person be required to have matching hardware to know if this works or not>?
[16:54] <jarnos> charlie-tca, I don't know, if you can get the same result by different laptop. xrandr without arguments gives yo
[16:54] <jarnos> u the names of outputs.
[16:55] <charlie-tca> laptop hardware is very specific, normally. Even kernel fixes vary according to the revision of the laptop
[16:56] <mr_pouit> bah, that's an overly complicated script that does nothing really useful
[16:58] <mr_pouit> he should check the randr output when both displays are enabled, and when the external display is off
[16:58] <mr_pouit> maybe some modes are't available then
[17:00] <jarnos> mr_pouit, well I use a different script by which I can change between laptop display, external display and extended desktop. If I changed the modes in certain order in Natty, it faild. Thus the test script.
[17:02] <mr_pouit> compare the output of "xrandr -q --verbose" between each step, and you'll see if a mode disappears or something
[17:06] <jarnos> mr_pouit, both outputs have some current mode then, but laptop display is off.
[17:08] <mr_pouit> try to compare these mods then, maybe the frequency isn't the same when both displays are on, and the screen doesn't like it
[17:09]  * jarnos added an important comment to the askubuntu.com page
[17:16] <jarnos> mr_pouit, there is no such difference between the the steps.
[17:33] <jarnos> Adding lines that turn off and on the external display before setting up extended desktop makes the script work.
[17:36] <jarnos> That has to be before "xrandr --output $INT --auto;" at line 10


[12:54] <duanedesign> morning all
[14:16] <facundobatista> Hola duanedesign
[15:01] <espen77> is it possible to get u1 running on a cli only ec2 build?
[15:15] <duanedesign> espen77: i think it is possible
[15:15] <duanedesign> though I have never done it.
[15:17] <duanedesign> espen77:  just syncdaemon and  the protocol are enough to do file sync, and that anything listed in   syncdaemon's --help is also settable via the config (thanks to  configglue). So you can pass in the oauth tokens and such
[15:18] <duanedesign> you put the oauth token in the syncdaemon config file
[15:18] <duanedesign> network-manager not being installed just means it  assumes you always have network
[15:20] <duanedesign> espen77: you might ask Chipaca, he is who I have talked to about this in the past.
[15:21] <espen77> thank you
[15:21] <espen77> what version i need for couch db to be working?
[15:25] <espen77> want to doo all my rss and html grabbing and sorted, and just get it dumped to my laptop when i get connection
[18:43] <karni> hi everybody
[19:21] <Gambit> Hello everyone. I'm looking for some help with Ubuntu One. It constantly shows disconnected as my status, but when I hit connect for this machine on the devices tab it does nothing, and just comes right back.
[19:21] <Gambit> I have fully reinstalled the entirety of ubuntuone twice following these instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8146023&postcount=2
[19:27] <karni> Gambit: hi pal. try to hang out for a while, it's harder to catch ppl on weekends
[19:28] <Gambit> Hmm I feel a little foolish right now.
[19:28] <Gambit> I just checked back on it and it's connected.
[19:28] <Gambit> And synchronizing.
[19:28] <Gambit> Without me having done anything.
[19:28] <Gambit> Apparently one must have some patience after a reinstallation.
[19:29] <karni> Gambit: ah, that's great! :)
[19:30] <Gambit> Yes it is :)
[19:31] <Gambit> I originally broke it on purpose months ago because it was annoying me, and I was new to ubuntu (and linux in general) and didn't know the right way to deal with it.
[19:31] <Gambit> see you all.
[19:39] <duanedesign> hello karni
[19:39]  * duanedesign wonders if facundobatista is still around <.<  >.>
[19:39] <karni> hi duanedesign , how's your weekend
[19:39] <duanedesign> karni: good. Been snowed in so I am catching up on all my Ubuntu community work
[19:39] <karni> duanedesign: :D
[19:40] <facundobatista> duanedesign, kind of
[19:40] <duanedesign> facundobatista: working on some bug reports. I have a user that has bug 490988
[19:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 490988 in ubuntuone-client "Lot of MakeDir and MakeFile failures because of root mismatch (affects: 9) (dups: 5) (heat: 5)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490988
[19:41] <duanedesign> facundobatista: the workaround is to backup the Ubuntu One folder and delete metadata. Should the user also backup all UDF's?
[19:42] <facundobatista> duanedesign, backups are never bad ;)
[19:42] <duanedesign> good point
[19:42] <duanedesign> thank you.
[20:26] <Gambit> Where can I clear the list of waiting content as given by u1sdtool --waiting-content
[20:27] <Gambit> There are several thousands of files in there that no longer exist (I once attempted syncing .minecraft)
[20:27] <Gambit> And I think that may be causing some problems.
[20:27] <Gambit> I read here that ubuntu one dislikes many many small files.
[20:31] <duanedesign> hello
[20:32] <duanedesign> Gambit: it is that each files metadata takes X amount of time. So number of files can sometimes hav a greater effect on sync time then size
[20:33] <duanedesign> Gambit: there is an application called magicicada
[20:33] <duanedesign> a gui for syncdaemon
[20:33] <duanedesign> you can install it with the commands
[20:34] <duanedesign> sudo add-apt-repository  ppa:chicharreros/ppa
[20:34] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install magicicada
[20:34] <duanedesign> You can launch the application from Applications > Accessories > Magicicada
[20:35] <Gambit> Thank you. I found it in the software center.
[20:36] <duanedesign> oh wow
[20:36] <duanedesign> cool
[20:36] <Gambit> Looks like all the garbage is gone from waiting-content now as well.
[20:36] <duanedesign> didnt realize it had made it to the repo
[20:37] <Gambit> And everything is finally working.


[06:35] <mehdi2> apollo13: hi, are you around
[06:35] <mehdi2> ?
[07:02] <mehdi2> apollo13: zed, ping
[08:32] <TSA> Free pat downs for everybody!
[12:59] <mehdi2> apollo13: ping
[12:59] <mehdi2> zed: ping
[13:00] <mehdi2> anybody can help us?
[13:00] <mehdi2> I need some one look into our forum db
[13:00] <apollo13> mehdi2: guess so, so I have no idea what to do…
[13:00] <mehdi2> ...
[13:00] <apollo13> don't do that, how should I know stupid php scripts
[13:00] <apollo13> aside from that your db is fine
[13:01] <mehdi2> apollo13: ok, thanks
[13:01] <mehdi2> did you see the smf_messages table ?
[13:01] <apollo13> I ran optimize on session and user tables though
[13:01] <apollo13> there is one yes
[13:01] <mehdi2> anything there ?
[13:01] <apollo13> 125761 rows
[13:02] <mehdi2> the last rows? anything that can help?
[13:02] <apollo13> no idea, I can'T read iranian?!
[13:03] <mehdi2> can you paste it somewhere for me ?
[13:03] <mehdi2> any errors in db logs ?
[13:03] <apollo13> doubt that, there is sensitive data in there, gimme a email addr
[13:03] <mehdi2><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:03] <apollo13> why are you looking in the db for a software problem?
[13:04] <mehdi2> becaz I've seen same page before
[13:04] <mehdi2> and was able to login repaire and fix from db
[13:05] <apollo13> well I see no broken table, at least I don't know if mysql can tell me that without checking every table
[13:05] <mehdi2> no idea
[13:05] <mehdi2> zed could be useful if he had time...
[13:07] <apollo13> well checking all the tables, though I don't think that's the problenm
[13:08] <apollo13> status check on every table is okay
[13:08] <mehdi2> ok, thanks. can I have a dump of our db to test it on a local setup ?
[13:09] <apollo13> just sent you the last ten messages line
[13:09] <apollo13> do you have access to the slave at eshu?
[13:09] <apollo13> anyways I still suggest you check the code first before trying the db…
[13:10] <apollo13> gotta go now, university is waiting
[13:10] <mehdi2> I have access to checkout and yurugu
[13:10] <mehdi2> ok, thanks for help :)
[13:13] <zed> pong mehdi2
[13:13] <mehdi2> zed: hi, sorry we have a strage problem with our forum
[13:14] <mehdi2> I don't know what exactly it is and becaz I'm on a trip I can't connect to servers and check the db
[13:14] <zed> mh ok
[13:14] <mehdi2> we've had it before and you helped resolving it
[13:15] <mehdi2> I don't know maybe something useful in logs or...
[13:15] <zed> and what is the problem ? :)
[13:15] <mehdi2> I says to everybody that your user is blocked
[13:16] <mehdi2> I remember we had same when we blocked the balancer ip adress
[13:16] <mehdi2> and then we had to repair and fix db from inside SMF
[13:16] <mehdi2> but I've not blocked the load balancer ip this time...
[13:23] <zed> well, I can't remember what I did :)
[13:23] <mehdi2> it's great :)
[13:23] <mehdi2> but I'm not sure this is the same issue...
[13:25] <zed> what does the message exactly says on the homepage of the forum ?
[13:26] <mehdi2> it says guest user is not allowed to login
[13:26] <mehdi2> the guest user is disabled
[13:28] <zed> mmh ok
[13:33] <zed> +-------------------+-------+
[13:33] <zed> | variable          | value |
[13:33] <zed> +-------------------+-------+
[13:33] <zed> | allow_guestAccess | 1     |
[13:33] <zed> +-------------------+-------+
[13:33] <zed> too bad :(
[13:34] <mehdi2> is there any administrator user or group ?
[13:35] <mehdi2> smf_members id_group=1
[13:42] <zed> mehdi2: yes there's "Administrator"
[13:49] <mehdi2> what do you think is there any software crash ?
[14:02] <zed> everything else is running smoothly on the servers... :(
[14:08] <mehdi2> zed: sorry is it possible to rollback the db to 19 november ?
[19:35] <mehdi2> zed: can you please run REPAIR TABLE and OPTIMIZE TABLE on our forum tables


[05:29] <guiverc> I've been doing some bug cleaning (EOL mostly); just came across https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1410607 which maybe needs evaluation..
 [08:43] <doko> apparently builders won't be back before tomorrow
[09:43] <guiverc> thanks @RikMills


[22:45] <akik> you don't have the instant flash memory
[22:45] <ericus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26532476/
[22:46] <akik> ericus: your /var seems to have grown a bit
[22:47] <ericus> yeah, what might cause that?
[22:47] <akik> ericus: but did you check if your vg has unallocated space?
[22:48] <akik> ericus: "sudo vgdisplay -v" shows it
[22:50] <akik> ericus: if there's unallocated space in the vg, you could use lvresize to enlarge the root fs lv
[22:51] <akik> ericus: also /var/cache/apt/archives keeps the installed deb files and could grow
[22:54] <ericus> what are these in /var/cache/apt?
[22:54] <ericus> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46333952 Feb  6 23:28 pkgcache.bin.gPN3yM
[22:54] <ericus> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47977457 Feb  6 23:28 srcpkgcache.bin
[22:55] <ericus> safe to remove akik?
[22:55] <akik> ericus: no
[22:55] <kostkon> ericus, same effect as  apt-get clean?
[22:56] <akik> ericus: free space in your volume group? lots of deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[22:56] <zackitaxi> Hi. I've been trying to install Ubuntu on a Windows 8 netbook with UEFI for a few hours now.
[22:56] <zackitaxi> I am not a technical person
[22:56] <zackitaxi> Would anyone be willing to help me with this?
[22:58] <zackitaxi> I've read a few different things online and cannot make heads or tails of what I need to do. I've installed Ubuntu live on a USB but my computer ignores it because of "EFI"
[22:58] <ericus> archives is empty now akik
[22:58] <akik> ericus: did it help? "df"
[22:58] <ericus> df -H still show 100%
[23:00] <akik> ericus: if you don't want to touch your lvm, then dig in to your /var with the du command
[23:00] <ericus> dpkg --configure -a is now working
[23:02] <zackitaxi> Is there a simple tool that can make Ubuntu installable on EFI (similar to Unetbootin), or does it pretty much require crazy technical skills?
[23:03] <akik> zackitaxi: how did you write your usb stick?
[23:03] <zackitaxi> akik: Using Unetbootin
[23:03] <akik> zackitaxi: ubuntu iso can boot on a uefi system
[23:03] <ericus> akik thank you very much, I'll buy you a beer if we ever cross roads
[23:04] <akik> zackitaxi: install rufus on windows, then start it, press alt-i once (it will say disabling iso support), then write the usb stick with the iso
[23:04] <akik> i have mostly heard incompatible stories with unetbootin
[23:04] <zackitaxi> akik: Thanks! I will do that right now!
[23:04] <yuken> zackitaxi, huh? Just use Rufus or DD.
[23:04] <yuken> YOu don't need to do anything... special.
[23:05] <ericus> 5.7G  4.2G  1.2G  79% /
[23:05] <akik> ericus: yay!
[23:05] <akik> ericus: what was it?
[23:08] <akik> there was some edge case with machines that only support 32-bit uefi
[23:08] <akik> but then you could install a 32-bit ubuntu
[23:08] <akik> ?
[23:09] <ericus> akik the apt-cache removed fixed the dpkg-issues, and from there apt-get autoremove
[23:15] <zackitaxi> akik: Okay, the green bar finished, but it doesn't say, like "Good to go!" or anything
[23:15] <zackitaxi> akik: Is there anything else I need to do or should I restart?
[23:16] <yuken> so from what I see, it appears to be impossible to use the dGPU in my laptop. o-o
[23:16] <zackitaxi> This is using Rufus by the way
[23:16] <yuken> zackitaxi, look at the bottom left
[23:16] <yuken> it will tell you what it's doing
[23:17] <zackitaxi> It says 1 Device Found. Imma restart brb
[23:21] <ball_of_lint> zackitaxi: do you have secure boot on? That can cause lots of problems and is generally no fun at all
[23:21] <zackitaxi> Well that did not work
[23:21] <zackitaxi> ball_of_lint: I don't know. When I restarted and told it to boot from my USB, it just took me back to EFI screen over and over
[23:21] <zackitaxi> I'll go back in and disable secure boot
[23:21] <akik> zackitaxi: do you have a machine with a 32-bit uefi?
[23:22] <zackitaxi> akik: I don't know
[23:22] <zackitaxi> How do I find that out?
[23:22] <akik> zackitaxi: try making a web search for it "ubuntu manufacturer model 32-bit efi"
[23:24] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> anyone with a recommendation for a high quality usb webcam that works out of the box with ubuntu? Something along the $100 budget. I was thinking of one of those logitech hd webcams, but those are not officially supported on linux
[23:26] <zackitaxi> akik: I found an article on askubuntu that says to paste a file into the /efi/boot folder, but the problem is that rufus formats the usb drive to have a tiny partition, so the file won't fit. And if I do the Windows formatty thing it will make everything rufus installs go away
[23:26] <zackitaxi> Like, the windows make-usb-partitions go away thing
[23:26] <zackitaxi> It just deletes all the stuff
[23:26] <zackitaxi> Maybe from Rufus I can tell it not to make my usb tiny, I'll try that
[23:27] <mar__> Fire-Dragon-DoL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Choosing_a_Webcam see linux-uvc link
[23:27] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> thanks mar__, checking
[23:28] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> kind of hard to understand the quality of the webcam from there, lol
[23:30] <mar__> it's meant to be skimmed, it does not list the webcam quality but compatibility with linux
[23:30] <TJ-> Fire-Dragon-DoL: as long as it supports USB Video Class (UVC) you can choose based on other criteria confident it'll work
[23:31] <TJ-> Fire-Dragon-DoL: UVC == it uses standard kernel drivers, nothing needed from camera manufacturer
[23:34] <kostkon> Fire-Dragon-DoL, start from logitech's
[23:44] <monty_hall> how to run jython pip?
[23:49] <Aeyesi> Hello, Can anybody tell why every time the filesystem boots into read-only ? (its not corrupted or anything)
[23:50] <Aeyesi> and it ignores anything in fstab as it fails to apply it
[23:53] <Aeyesi> anybody?
[23:56] <genii> Aeyesi: This will happen if you have a bad fstab entry.
[23:56] <genii> The mounter will choke and spit you out
[23:57] <Aeyesi> @genii no, i cleared it to make sure it is correct... it just happens whenever I touch it!
[23:58] <Aeyesi> so even if the disk is not defined, it goes read-only
[23:58] <genii> If you have no fstab entries at all same thing happens
[23:58] <genii> You need at least 1 valid entry for /
[23:58] <Aeyesi> Well... let me re-re-re-recheck
[23:59] <mar__> dmesg | tail
[23:59] <mar__> or /var/log/syslog


[09:36] <jphilips> bluesabre: is it mandatory to have the urls in the xubuntu-user.ent file?
[09:53] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: exo 4.16.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-exo-4-16-1-released-tp59929.html (by Alexander Schwinn-2)
[11:39] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Apply translations in lt @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/a799ecf6df6d6bf178e349931c4c756512444947 (by transifex-integration)
[11:43] <bluesabre> jphilips: I believe so, but generally I'd just recommend following the structure the docs are already in
[17:35] <jphilips> if there are any 21.04 contributors that you would like to see highlighted in Ubuntu's upcoming social media campaign, put them in - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeyXr1MaH8uKNkMZKy_o_JF0kArtSn_dB6_O4Fij-m2a09QiQ/viewform
[17:36] <jphilips> i vote Unit193 to be highlighted as our package maintainer
[20:08] <jphilips> bluesabre: should we be shipping gnome language selector, so users have an easy means to change the system OS - https://old.reddit.com/r/xfce/comments/m2vzjk/change_default_system_language/
[21:53] <bluesabre> Is that not what the "Language Support" app does?


[00:01] <blackboxsw> we should add that one to the FAQ page .https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/faq.html


[05:47] <ninjafs> hello
[05:47] <ninjafs> anybody here?
[05:50] <tumbleweed> no
[05:51] <ninjafs> okay
[05:53] <tumbleweed> I am of course joking. If you have a qustion, ask it. Also, see the topic
[06:05] <ninjafs> yes admin
[06:05] <ninjafs> I have added our new mirror in the Indonesia (ID) to launchpad, however the current status is still pending review
[06:05] <ninjafs> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirrors.idcloudhost.com-archive
[06:05] <ninjafs> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirrors.idcloudhost.com-release
[06:05] <ninjafs> please advice about this
[06:16] <Fluor> ninjafs, be patient is the best advice i guess. make sure your LaunchPad profile is complete, the ubuntu mirror team wants to see that your mirror is stable & keeps up with updates. it might take a number of weeks before it will switch to approved or whatever.
[06:16] <barryprice> ninjafs: I've just reviewed both, they're now marked Official which means the mirror prober should automatically scan for any problems in the next few days
[06:17] <barryprice> you can check back in a few days to see how that gets on
[06:18] <Fluor> gg barryprice ;))
[06:26] <ninjafs> finally. thx team :)