[09:49] <Absenth> what does this error mean when trying to mount using smbfs
[09:49] <Absenth> cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[09:49] <hanasaki> when should the system use utc in the hardware clock and when not?
[09:49] <coastermaster> has anyone had any experience doing the Seamless Virtualization with the method here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kagemaro: Try this link..   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[09:49] <nickrud> hanasaki, use it when you don't care much about your windows time being off
[09:49] <roooss> its root
[09:50] <kagemaro> Jack_Sparrow - they play fine, but the sound volume is very low
[09:50] <kagemaro> Jack_Sparrow - less than 20% of what I get in Windows
[09:50] <epistis> hey, i'm trying to install larry's bcm43xx patches on a 2.6.20-16-lowlatency kernel; the patches are designed for 2.6.20, will the effect be the same?
[09:50] <hanasaki> ok.. nickrud what command will tell root to set based on utc?
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kagemaro: Have you checked your mixer settings
[09:50] <d2leo> Jack_Sparrow: The text you gave me to make a backup and restore it have been cut out of the conversation.  Can you tell me the commands again?
[09:50] <epistis> also, should I use patch -p1 or -p0?
[09:50] <kagemaro> Jack_Sparrow - Yes, 100% pcm, 100% physical, 100% on JuK
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> d2leo: tar cvpzf backupdell.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backupdell.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media -- /
[09:51] <cristi>  Is there a workaround for devices that i don't have drivers for Ubuntu?? For example i used to use my CMDA mobile phone as a modem for internet back on windows. And there are no linux drivers.
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> d2leo: that is the full backup
[09:51] <nickrud> hanasaki, in /etc/defaults/rcS , set UTC=yes
[09:51] <d2leo> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks :)
[09:51] <misstajah> Question: I have installed the nvidia-new drivers so I could run my Asus F3SC T7100/1GB/160GB SATA/DVD+-RW, but everytime my X tries to start, the computer reboots. why is that? :S
[09:51] <eddie> Has anyone got 5 mins to help me out with a ssh server?
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> d2leo: tar xvpfz backup.tgz -C /                  Is the restore
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> d2leo: dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.backup bs=512 count=1             Saves the mbr
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> d2leo: dd if=mbr.backup of=/dev/sda bs=1                   restores the mbr
[09:52] <conorkirkpatrick> Can anybody suggest a good music player that would be a good iTunes replacement for Linux?
[09:53] <nickrud> hanasaki, then hwclock --set --date <date> --utc
[09:53] <Branden> Hi there, can someone please help me, I get the following error when I "Make Congif" branden@ubuntu:~/IRC/eggdrop$ make config
[09:53] <Branden> make: *** [config]  Error 126
[09:53] <conorkirkpatrick> IS Amarok any good for this?
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> d2leo:512 saves the partition info as well.. change that to 462 for just the boot info
[09:53] <eddie> Rythmbox
[09:53] <conorkirkpatrick> thnx
[09:53] <conorkirkpatrick> I'll have a look
[09:53] <gnuCLoS> yea rythmbox is very similar to itunes
[09:53] <misstajah> banshee is pretty similar to iTunes
[09:53] <gnuCLoS> iono if it syncs with an ipod though.. pretty sure it does
[09:53] <misstajah> but i'm afraid it's openSuse only?
[09:54] <conorkirkpatrick> iPod syncing is not required
[09:54] <d2leo> Thanks Jack_Sparrow
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:54] <conorkirkpatrick> Branden: The important error should be in your console further up, it will have something to do with a file not being found
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> d2leo: You dont need the sudo su and cd / ifo again do you
[09:55] <hanasaki> ok.. the date issue.. root typeing "date" returns the date as EDT but a user account returns as UTC where are the controls for this?
[09:55] <WalterCool> hi there... someone know how fix a corrupted ext3 partition?
[09:56] <Bic_1> I getting the error "You passed an undefined mode number Press <return> to see video modes available wait 30 seconds or press space to continue.   Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[10:03] <Anlar> before that.. someone was asking for something ummm
[10:03] <WalterCool> wtf x2
[10:03] <cables> I missed a bot invasion? Damn.
[10:03] <ianmcorvidae> Wow.
[10:03] <PriceChild> Everyone please be patient, no need to go "what was that?" etc.
[10:03] <Madkiss> jesus
[10:03] <Ghaddafi> lol
[10:03] <hurt> good stuff
[10:03] <Anlar> Kilroo: No idea, after Gnome and KDE there is a multitude of marginal environments.. e17, xfce likely the most common of those
[10:04] <xhaan> anyways.. lol.. is there any way to ignore update notifications for a particular package?
[10:04] <Anlar> PriceChild: omg what are YOU :O
[10:04] <Anlar> erm ;)
[10:04] <hurt> test
[10:04] <Kilroo> Anlar: considering that Xubuntu is what I'm probably going to install, I was including Xfce as one of the ones it can come with. :) But thanks.
[10:05] <gnuCLoS> fluxbox is great too but not as easy to use
[10:05] <Kilroo> Xfce sounded the easiest to get used to for someone accustomed to my Litestep theme.
[10:05] <misstajah> Question: I have installed the nvidia-new drivers so I could run my Asus F3SC T7100/1GB/160GB SATA/DVD+-RW, but everytime my X tries to start, the computer reboots. why is that? :S
[10:05] <Maurel> Hi I just installed ubuntu server (feisty) and I want access to unstable packages (asterisk to be precise). What repository should I add to sources.list to achieve this, please?
[10:05] <cables> Why do the default permissions for home folders allow "Others" privileges to "Access files"?
[10:05] <gnuCLoS> sorry.. its easy to use.. harder to configure**
[10:05] <Anlar> Kilroo: I guess e17 :) It's reasonably stable, but lacks still a lot and it's unfinished.. you notice that when you for instance right click a window title bar and get ALL the possible stuff listed :) it's horrible usability in some places.. but it's the one that has got great promise
[10:05] <Scunizi> I've got a spare drive I can't write to without sudo. Fstab shows /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ext3 rw,user 0 1. Any suggestions on a fix
[10:06] <J-_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30379/ any ideas?
[10:07] <vox754> Scunizi, check the permissions of the mount point /media/hda1 with "ls -l /media/hda1" change it to your user.
[10:07] <vox754> !chmod
[10:07] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:08] <gnuCLoS> for mythtv.. does the server acctually stream the video to the front end.. or does the front end play videos and the server jsu do the recording?? i dont get how it works.. like how would i run 1 myth tv server with 2 or 3 clients (tvs) so they can all access the same content...
[10:08] <gnuCLoS> ?*
[10:08] <Scunizi> vox754, thanks.. how do I make an effective change? Is that in fstab or using chown? What's the syntax?
[10:08] <gnuCLoS> videos/live tv
[10:09] <solveai> I just installed ubuntu server. How do I tell it to use mirrors.kernel.org to get stuff instead of the cdrom?
[10:09] <cables> gnuCLoS, I don't have any experience with Myth, but I'd assume that the clients do everything but the storage, and the server does the storage. However, it's probably pretty flexible... I'd guess that you could set up the server to do the recording off of the wire and have the clients tell it what to record.
[10:09] <FreeFull> gnuCLoS, ask at #mythtv-users
[10:09] <vox754> Scunizi, I guess the ubotu factoid above has the answer. Also, try in the fstab adding in the options  "default,rw,user"
[10:09] <jrib> solveai: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, comment the cdrom and do 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:10] <solveai> got it; thanks
[10:10] <Scunizi> vox754, thanks I'll try
[10:10] <conorkirkpatrick> Is there anyway that I can change the resolution that my screensaver runs at?
[10:11] <max01> when you do apt-get update doesnt that just update the apt list?
[10:11] <solveai> what tool should I use to setup iptables rules on ubuntu? (I have the iptables rules I wnat already, i just wnat iptables-restore < blah .. to be run every tim eon startup)
[10:11] <max01> how do you get it to install all the updates?
[10:11] <solveai> is lighttpd a secure webserver to use?
[10:12] <conorkirkpatrick> Is there anyway that I can change the resolution that my screensaver runs at?
[10:12] <Solidays> So I'm resorting to running a live CD for a week
[10:12] <g0dd3ss> i can anybody help I think i broke beryl, well it's not starting properly like it's sposed to, i only see the corners of the titlebars and the cube thing doesnt work
[10:12] <Solidays> Tell me, is there any easy way to save settings to a USB stick?
[10:12] <vox754> conorkirkpatrick, no.    And please do not repeat.
[10:12] <gnuCLoS> cables & free thnxx
[10:13] <conorkirkpatrick> vox754: soz
[10:13] <MilitantPotato> meh
[10:13] <vox754> Solidays, what exactly do you want. I think the Knoppix live CD would more useful for that.
[10:14] <MilitantPotato> its in home/militantpotato/.hubackup-data
[10:14] <MilitantPotato> but going to home, or militantpotato doesn't show it
[10:14] <Solidays> I just want to carry on using Ubuntu while my laptop's having it's LCD hinges repaired
[10:14] <Solidays> I wanted to boot directly off my laptop HDD but apparently that isn't possible with a clean install
[10:15] <dropety> hi, i'm trying... md5sum /dev/scd0 but get an i/o error. how do I check the DVD md5sum?
[10:15] <Solidays> I only have a 1GB USB stick so it's not really up for running Ubuntu off of it
[10:15] <CheesyMonkey> MilitantPotato, ctrl + h in nautilus :)
[10:15] <MilitantPotato> CheesyMonkey: You're my Hero.
[10:15] <MilitantPotato> I was going insane.
[10:15] <wastedfluid> ubuntu 7.04 fiesty here.  i left my wireless networks range.. where it couldn't find the network anymore, and i brought it back home.. and now my laptop cannot find my normal wireless networking.  i know the ssid is still broadcasting because my xp laptop picks it up.  any ideas??
[10:15] <gnuCLoS> Soliday.. u tried knopix?
[10:15] <MilitantPotato> Shows hidden folders I take it?
[10:16] <Solidays> Nope
[10:16] <vox754> Solidays, I'm confused. Did you take out the laptop hard drive?
[10:16] <Solidays> Yep
[10:16] <CheesyMonkey> MilitantPotato, yep
[10:16] <Solidays> It came with a 40gig HDD which I replaced with a 100gig HDD
[10:16] <MilitantPotato> lets hope i can move it
[10:16] <Solidays> Ubuntu's on the 100gig one and now it's going in for repair I switched the 40gig one back in
[10:16] <dropety> dd if=/dev/scd0 | md5sum fails too; Any suggestions?
[10:17] <gnuCLoS> Knoppix should be able to run off usb.. but you can def boot it off cd..
[10:17] <gnuCLoS> ubuntu live cds also..
[10:17] <conorkirkpatrick> Does anybody know how I can view the shared folder from my Windoze computers? (I am on the network with them)
[10:17] <CheesyMonkey> !samba | conorkirkpatrick
[10:17] <ubotu> conorkirkpatrick: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:17] <Solidays> I know I can run Ubuntu off of the live CD
[10:17] <Solidays> The thing about that is I'm stuck with the programs that are installed on the live CD, right?
[10:17] <gnuCLoS> conor: Places > Network
[10:18] <gnuCLoS> oo.. yes soliday...
[10:18] <wastedfluid> anyone know of a way to restart the networking applet .. so it'll refresh networks?? it's not picking up my normal network..
[10:18] <Solidays> Solidays is a take off of Holidays >_>
[10:18] <Polygon89> Can someone point me to a script or some website with instructions on how to convert youtube .flv files to a format like ogg theora or xvid?
[10:19] <Solidays> Sol is the nick I use on another server. So the nick isn't as weird as it looks
[10:19] <Polygon89> that works and doesnt give me staticy sound?
[10:19] <FreeFull> Polygon89, why do you want to convert? They should work fine...
[10:19] <Solidays> The thing about using the live CD is I won't have programs like VLC, WINE, etc.
[10:20] <Polygon89> FreeFull, one i cant skip through the songs, two half of the time .flv videos lockup mplayer, three i really dont wnat to have to install a flv player on every computer in my house
[10:20] <MilitantPotato> hmm
[10:20] <gnuCLoS> soliday im not sure there is a way to do what you are saying besides creating your own live cd so it has the apps and settings you want..
[10:20] <vox754> Solidays, Knoppix was specially designed as a Live CD so it has numerous applications installed. Maybe you could try it.     And that about your nickname is off topic.
[10:20] <MilitantPotato> no way my backup is only 17 megs
[10:21] <Solidays> Alright vox754. I'll take a look, thanks.
[10:21] <Cubey> is there a way to edit the settings for urgent hints?
[10:22] <vox754> Solidays, I think wine is included, VLC not sure. But Knoppix is also based on Debian, like Ubuntu. So I suspect you'll find it familiar. It includes Gnome, KDE, and other desktop managers.
[10:22] <FreeFull> Polygon89, it's possible to convert using ffmpeg
[10:23] <Polygon89> FreeFull, i tried using ffmpeg2theora and the video converts fine but the sound is all static-y
[10:25] <turt1e> Hi all,  does anyone have a web link to a page explaining what is different about Fiesty vs Edgy
[10:25] <syntux> if I have some custom aliases and functions in .bashrc do I have to 'source .bashrc' every login ?
[10:26] <turt1e> having a hard time locating release notes on ubuntu's site
[10:26] <jrib> syntux: no
[10:26] <syntux> jrib, so maybe each time I add new alias, function ?
[10:26] <gesker> Anyone having difficulty downloading the ubuntu-xen-package in feisty?
[10:26] <jimcooncat> I'm buying a UPS -- APC or Tripp Lite? Will they shut down Ubuntu through USB?
[10:26] <Sayeh> Hey somebody knows why all the program you have installed while using ununtu live cd isent there when you restart /:
[10:27] <jrib> syntux: yeah, anytime you modify .bashrc because .bashrc only gets read when you start the terminal
[10:27] <jacknn> Anyone can help with HP network printing using jetDirect?
[10:27] <bruenig> Sayeh, because it is a live cd and nothing is being saved to disk
[10:27] <syntux> jrib, ah cool, thanks :-)
[10:27] <koki> guys
[10:27] <jimcooncat> jacknn, I got it working
[10:27] <koki> card GeForce 6200 FX
[10:27] <koisoooo> hi. how do i make services such as ssh to stop loading during boot?
[10:27] <koki> is it 6 series
[10:27] <koki> or FX series
[10:27] <koki> codename is N6200
[10:27] <Solidays> Neither the CD or the DVD version includes VLC :(
[10:28] <MilitantPotato> Sayeh: It's all running in ram, it gets cleared when you reboot.  If you do an install it works
[10:28] <syntux> any idea how display file permissions in number with ls -l ?
[10:28] <jacknn> jimcooncat, please help... I've been at it for days now.
[10:28] <MilitantPotato> Solidays: go too Add/Remove under applications, type in VLC
[10:28] <Solidays> On a live CD?
[10:28] <jacknn> Jimbob, I've got the printer on a desktop (server machine).
[10:28] <Sayeh> okay thanks Militantpotato
[10:28] <Sayeh> how do i install ?
[10:28] <MilitantPotato> yea Soliday, you can download it :)
[10:29] <Solidays> I thought Live CDs didn't allow you to install things on them
[10:29] <bruenig> syntux, you can't just glance at it and convert?
[10:29] <Jimbob> eh?
[10:29] <Solidays> I feel stupid now
[10:29] <Sayeh> isent ubuntu only a live cd
[10:29] <Sayeh> ?
[10:29] <MilitantPotato> Mmm you might be able to bundle programs on the live CD?
[10:29] <syntux> bruenig, why I can't?
[10:29] <jacknn> Jimbob, sorry, it was for jimcooncat
[10:29] <MilitantPotato> I ment install it to your hard drive :)
[10:29] <syntux> Sayeh, no, it's live and install
[10:29] <bruenig> Sayeh, no, see that button on the desktop that says install
[10:29] <Solidays> oh
[10:29] <Sayeh> yeah :)
[10:29] <jacknn> jimcooncat, I've got the printer on my desktop (server machine).
[10:29] <jimcooncat> jacknn, I have a Color-Laserjet-3600. Connection: Network Printer, HP JetDirect, Host: <IP_ADDRESS> (manual setup on printer lcd), Port: 9100
[10:29] <Jimbob> np :) lol
[10:29] <Solidays> Gah
[10:29] <Sayeh> i try that thanks
[10:30] <bruenig> syntux, no I mean, what is the point, can't you read the permissions and quickly convert to octal
[10:30] <Solidays> I'll work something out
[10:30] <Solidays> Thanks for your help
[10:30] <jimcooncat> jacknn, I thought you meant a standalone printer, not hooked to pc
[10:30] <uga> btw, found the response here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+bug/117988
[10:30] <uga> Fixes slow load times seen in earlier 09.x versions"
[10:30] <jacknn> jimcooncat, what I think I need and don't know how to get is the printer's IP. Do I need it? How to get it?
[10:30] <uga> where are those packs meant to go? 0.90.3
[10:30] <jrib> syntux: you can use 'stat' if you want
[10:30] <uga> aren't bugfixes ported to stable versions?
[10:30] <bruenig> uga, why are you using clamav
[10:30] <Sayeh> nothing happens when i press the install button /:
[10:31] <syntux> bruenig, no, I'm not fluent at it else I wouldnt think of that
[10:31] <jimcooncat> jacknn, first, how do you have wiring hooked up?
[10:31] <uga> bruenig: what should I be using instead
[10:31] <syntux> jrib, yeah I know but having numbers with ls -l is useful
[10:31] <bruenig> syntux, do you understand how the numbers work?
[10:31] <bruenig> uga, nothing
[10:31] <jrib> syntux: why?
[10:31] <bruenig> uga, unless you are hosting windows boxes
[10:31] <uga> bruenig: ever heard of wine?
[10:32] <jacknn> jimcooncat, OK. printer Deskjet 5740 hooked up to PC, server machine. Then, laptop, in a network with the PC Can ping the PC, can surf with the laptop...
[10:32] <bruenig> uga, wine is contained in a directory, nothing gets out of that directory
[10:32] <syntux> bruenig, not all but hmm, where can I read about the text and numbers
[10:32] <uga> bruenig: so what. I don't want that dir to get infected
[10:32] <syntux> jrib, i just find it easier.
[10:32] <bruenig> syntux, I read somewhere once that was very helpful but do you know binary?
[10:32] <uga> bruenig: and I don't want to forward this stuff to any friend if it's infected
[10:32] <bruenig> uga, I doubt clamav even deals with wine
[10:33] <uga> bruenig: clamav deals with windows executables
[10:33] <jacknn> jimcooncat, how did you get the printer's IP (10.0...)?
[10:33] <uga> bruenig: and wine does too
[10:33] <gnuCLoS> i luv this Gnu/linux way of doing things.. there was NEVER any type of windows chat or channel you could go to and get so many people that will actually try to help
[10:33] <syntux> bruenig, no but I'd love to learn.
[10:33] <gnuCLoS> lol @ installing a virus with wine
[10:33] <CheesyMonkey> gnuCLoS, im afriad there was ..... ##windows =)
[10:34] <savetheWorld> gnuCLoS: Well there is, but .. (grins) its hosted on freenode - a Linux oriented netwrok.. :-)
[10:34] <uga> gnuCLoS: there's certain stuff that is worth scanning before running under wine. And I bet you know those cases ;)
[10:34] <jimcooncat> jacknn, I don't know then, my physical connection is ethernet cable
[10:34] <bruenig> syntux, ok well decimal which you are probably familiar with counts up to 9, then starts over at 0, well binary is like that except it counts up to 1 and then starts over at 0
[10:34] <Allex> can anyone tell me what directory xorg.conf has?
[10:34] <unagi> /etc/X11 Allex
[10:34] <jimcooncat> jacknn, do you have an ethernet cable running straight from the printer to the server?
[10:34] <Allex> tnx
[10:34] <unagi> np
[10:34] <bruenig> syntux, so it goes 0 1 10 11 100 101<PHONE_NUMBER>
[10:34] <fumo> hi, how can I install a package without installing its dependencies?
[10:34] <gnuCLoS> lol i never used wine.. the whole point i switched to linux is so i wont have to use windows apps anymore
[10:34] <uga> gnuCLoS: rather than worrying about my box, it's about not forwarding it to any windows users
[10:34] <gnuCLoS> haha
[10:34] <bruenig> syntux, once you get to one you carry over
[10:35] <jvolkman> freenode.net isn't linux-oriented, just open software oriented
[10:35] <jacknn> jimcooncat, no, it's a USB cable, I think our setup is the same, except for this detail, which doesn't affect the question.
[10:35] <unagi> why would you want to do that fumo
[10:35] <bruenig> syntux, does that make sense?
[10:35] <valdyn> fumo: not.
[10:35] <surviver> what s the command to reconfigure x?
[10:35] <jrib> !xconfig > surviver (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:35] <gnuCLoS> uga what r u talking about?? sorry i dont know how we even got into this convo
[10:35] <uga> gnuCLoS: well, unfortunately there's still proprietary software that is required for certain operations on devices and gadgets
[10:35] <gnuCLoS> lol
[10:35] <unagi> i finally wrote a series of scripts to do what i wanted bruenig
[10:35] <fumo> unagi: I want emacs-goodies, I build emacs from cvs
[10:35] <jimcooncat> jacknn, sorry, I can't help -- I don't know how you'd set up an IP address if it's hooked up with USB
[10:35] <syntux> bruenig, lol not much
[10:36] <gnuCLoS> have u tried virtualbox.. install xp in that and then whatever windows apps u wanna run from there??
[10:36] <dbrewer> I have a question regarding PHP and Ubuntu servers... I have an ubuntu dapper server (providing PHP 5.1.2) which I need to upgrade to PHP 5.2.3.  What is the most pain-free way to accomplish this?  I've tried using the dotdeb repositories but ran into dependency hell (not surprisingly).  I also tried using prevu to backport 5.2.3 from gutsy to dapper, but I can't get the prevu-init step to complete...
[10:36] <jacknn> jimcooncat, how did you find yours (10.0...), or is it that you have a printer server gizmo?
[10:36] <uga> gnuCLoS: the root was... ubuntu's clamav is real slow for some strange reason (1 min and half to scan .bashrc!). There's a bugfix I believe, but it's not backported it seems
[10:36] <uga> to stable versions
[10:36] <surviver> jrib, thx :)
[10:36] <bruenig> syntux, it took me a while to get it, you are used to counting up from 1 to 9, and then starting back over at 0 right?
[10:36] <jimcooncat> jacknn, my print server is inside the printer
[10:36] <dbrewer> Next step would be to compile from source but I was hoping to avoid that since I'll have to do this on several servers.
[10:36] <syntux> bruenig, right
[10:36] <gnuCLoS> uga: clamav is slow  even in windows though...
[10:36] <uga> gnuCLoS: so instead of getting a response, I get a "wtf do youw ant clamav for" ;)
[10:36] <Sayeh> How much space does the install version of ubuntu fill ?
[10:37] <jacknn> jimcooncat, OK, and how do you get the printer's IP address then?
[10:37] <phaidros> hi, anybody pulseaudio with skype 1.4 (no oss, just alsa) running ??
[10:37] <CheesyMonkey> Well most people dont think about anti virus on linux cause theres no real point for most of us
[10:37] <uga> gnuCLoS: 1 minute and half to scan a single 4kB file??? that's not slow, that's a  186 at 1MHz ;M)
[10:37] <jimcooncat> jacknn, the default IP can be viewed from the printer's LCD
[10:37] <phaidros> CheesyMonkey: on servers there is :)
[10:37] <gnuCLoS> well i havent seen your question.. i was joking about installing a virus using wine.. i would assume though u could use clamav like on an email server so ur windows clients dont get win viruses
[10:37] <CheesyMonkey> phaidros, 'for most of us'
[10:37] <uga> gnuCLoS: it only happens under my ubuntu box. gentoo boxes never had that issue
[10:37] <Sayeh> is the istall ubunto version 66 GB big :O
[10:37] <uga> it's this clamav pack
[10:37] <jacknn> jimcooncat, Oh I see. I don't *have* an LCD...
[10:38] <jacknn> Oh, well. BTW, how do you make your lines red?
[10:38] <phaidros> Sayeh: what?
[10:38] <jimcooncat> jacknn, then maybe it's not a jetdirect, just a USB connected printer
[10:38] <jimcooncat> jacknn, can you print from the server?
[10:38] <Sayeh> i will install ubuntu but i says that its 66 GB big
[10:38] <bruenig> syntux, well instead of starting over at 9, you start over at 1, so here is decimal side by side with binary 0 = 0, 1 = 1, 2 = 10, 3  == 11, 4 == 100, 5 = 101, 6 = 110, 7 = 111
[10:38] <Sayeh> it *
[10:38] <gnuCLoS> hmm.. and removing and installing it again didnt do anything?
[10:38] <MilitantPotato> sayeh, you'll need a 512-2.5gb swap partition
[10:39] <MilitantPotato> aswell as a linux partition around 5-10gb set to /
[10:39] <Sayeh> what does partition mean ?
[10:39] <uga> gnuCLoS: I'll give it a try. uhm... I only practised reinstallations on windows so far. Never had to reinstall anything on linux to make it work ;))
[10:39] <jacknn> jimcooncat, Yes I can print from the server. As to jetDirect, I've seen it as being the protocol to use with my machine. It's pathetic, I've been at it for days, on the forums and here. It should be simpler... but there it is.
[10:39] <Allex> does anyone know how to log in as root in xubuntu? i get a message saying the administrator can not log in via the loginscreen @ startup?
[10:39] <uga> gnuCLoS: should I also reboot after installing??? =)))
[10:40] <gnuCLoS> yea..?? give it a try..
[10:40] <jrib> !root > Allex (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:40] <gnuCLoS> i never used clam in ubuntu
[10:40] <jimcooncat> jacknn, you need to skip the jetdirect idea then. Share your printer with CUPS (for linux clients) and SAMBA (for windows clients)
[10:40] <gnuCLoS> had it on my win machine for a while and it took HOURS to scan
[10:40] <uga> gnuCLoS: the "reboot" comment was meant to be a joke... :P
[10:40] <uga> (a windows joke)
[10:40] <MilitantPotato> Sayeh http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid5_gci212750,00.html
[10:40] <gnuCLoS> lol..
[10:40] <HelpMe> Hi
[10:40] <HelpMe> I'm having a problem
[10:40] <vox754> Sayeh, you really need to understand some concepts before you install. Otherwise you'll end up borking your current installation, and that will make you very sad.
[10:40] <syntux> bruenig, didn't get it :(
[10:40] <gnuCLoS> u kno i still try that sometimes
[10:40] <syntux> bruenig,  how are you counting it ?
[10:40] <CheesyMonkey> !helpme | HelpMe
[10:40] <gnuCLoS> old habit
[10:40] <gnuCLoS> hah
[10:40] <ubotu> HelpMe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:40] <Allex> jrib: im kinda new to linux, what do you meen?
[10:41] <HelpMe> ok
[10:41] <CheesyMonkey> HelpMe, I couldnt resist the urge :)
[10:41] <jimcooncat> jacknn, otherwise you'd have to make your server a JetDirect server, which I don't know if you can do with Ubuntu
[10:41] <jrib> Allex: my message just instructs ubotu to send you some information.  You should have a private message from ubotu.  Do you see it?
[10:41] <jacknn> jimcooncat, well, I started off with CUPS. It wouldn't work, which is when I saw the reference to jetDirect in the forums. CUPS would just show both printers fine, then print nothing.
[10:41] <HelpMe> When I try to enable Desktop Effects, it says "Desktop effects could not be be enabled" And whenever I try to switch to Beryl manager. it just switches back to compiz. I Need to know how to fix these problems! Thanks!
[10:41] <CheesyMonkey> !beryl | HelpMe
[10:41] <ubotu> HelpMe: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:41] <HelpMe> noones there
[10:42] <bulmer> jacknn: which printer brand and model?
[10:42] <jacknn> jimcooncat, You seem to be saying that jetDirect only works with an HP server.
[10:42] <koki> hello, how do i know if my graphic card requires a legacy driver?
[10:42] <jimcooncat> jacknn, as far as I know, yes
[10:42] <jacknn> bulmer, HP Deskjet 5740.
[10:42] <BeNdITo> ayuda para suse linux?
[10:42] <jacknn> jimcooncat, well maybe I'm wrong then, I'll look it up. That might be very hopeful.
[10:42] <jrib> BeNdITo: /join #suse
[10:43] <uga> gnuCLoS: unfortunately it didn't quite work </shocked>
[10:43] <tehtechman> koki: what vid card u using?
[10:43] <bruenig> syntux, maybe there is a better explanation online, maybe thinking about this will make you better understand, why do we go to 9 and then start over? why not go to 4 and then start over? so then it would go 1 2 3 4 10 11 12 13 14 20
[10:43] <BeNdITo> thanks
[10:43] <bruenig> where 10 is actually 5
[10:43] <bruenig> and 11 is 6 and so forth and so on
[10:44] <gnuCLoS> lol @ uga.. i dont know.. sorry
[10:44] <tont> I have of the problems with sudo, when start of the programs type adept, wassistant says su has given back an error to me. what I can make?
[10:44] <jimcooncat> anyone familiar with automatic shutdown from a UPS?
[10:44] <Sayeh> somebody got a good guide on how to install ubuntu ? :)
[10:44] <HelpMe> CheesyMonkey:   Theres nobody there at Beryl
[10:44] <syntux> bruenig, cool, then why 7 = 111 ?
[10:44] <gnuCLoS> sayeh.. jus put in the disc and restart
[10:45] <jacknn> jimcooncat, I'll look it up again, to verify.
[10:45] <Sayeh> yeah but i want to install it not just to use it as a live cd
[10:45] <jacknn> bulmer, any help?
[10:45] <bruenig> syntux, just start counting up, everytime you get to carry over into the next column, like in decimal you would get to 9 and then carry over into the next column to the left, do the same thing but do it at 1, you will see that the seventh digit you come up with is 111
[10:45] <gnuCLoS> double click the "install" icon on the desktop
[10:45] <mos> i sell runescape stat editor add my msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you want it.
[10:45] <gnuCLoS> after you go thru the whole thing jus make sure you remove the disc
[10:45] <jimcooncat> jacknn, from the client point of view, a Samba server might be simplest (but not necessarily setting up the server itself)
[10:46] <Sayeh> yeah but all that partition things confuse me
[10:46] <CheesyMonkey> mos, Sorry runescape is just crap
[10:46] <tehtechman> Oh is this a binary lesson?
[10:46] <gnuCLoS> oo.. choose guided partion.. use entire disk.. (especially if u got win installed)
[10:46] <bruenig> tehtechman, yeah help out if you can
[10:46] <syntux> bruenig, thank you :-) I guess I should read more about it and maybe I should buy a binary watch.
[10:46] <gnuCLoS> lol.. hold up ill get you a link
[10:46] <Sayeh> ah okay thanks i try that
[10:46] <bruenig> I am bad at explaining it
[10:46] <dbrewer> Is there by any chance a better channel for asking server-related questions?
[10:47] <dbrewer> I don't see any #ubuntu-server
[10:47] <gnuCLoS> guided is def the easiest if u dont mind whipping your harddrive
[10:47] <gnuCLoS> guided- use entire disk
[10:47] <tehtechman> 000 001 010 011 100 101 110 111
[10:47] <syntux> dbrewer, like what ?
[10:47] <ketzerei> How do I host folder/directory
[10:47] <tehtechman> that help?
[10:47] <Sayeh> how much space does it require
[10:47] <anurag_mishra> how do i enable gnome control centre in feisty
[10:47] <red`> hello
[10:47] <jacknn> jimcooncat, good idea. I'm gonna try it, as I mean to set up samba anyway, for the Windows partition on my client. But I should be able to print simply between two Ub machines....
[10:48] <ketzerei> anurag: I dont know if there is one. Did you install it?
[10:48] <dbrewer> syntux:  I have a question regarding PHP and Ubuntu servers... I have an ubuntu dapper server (providing PHP 5.1.2) which I need to upgrade to PHP 5.2.3.  What is the most pain-free way to accomplish this?  I've tried using the dotdeb repositories but ran into dependency hell (not surprisingly).  I also tried using prevu to backport 5.2.3 from gutsy to dapper, but I can't get the prevu-init step to complete...
[10:48] <bruenig> syntux, ok well once you understand binary, just think about permissions like this, rwx = 111 because they are all full, 110 would be rw- because you see the last one is empty, so since 7 = 111 and 111 = rwx, chmod 7 means chmod it to rwx
[10:48] <haxorjoe> is it possible to use a blackberry pearl as a bluetooth modem in ubuntu?
[10:48] <red`> did someone have a ibm t60?
[10:48] <teryance> hey does anyone know how to get a app launcher
[10:48] <rustalot> hey guys, what's a good place to get small motherboards? I'm looking for something less than 3.5" x 6", to make a small, portable network storage device with 3 or 4 drives.
[10:48] <ketzerei> How do I host folder/directory
[10:49] <anurag_mishra> how do i enable gnome control centre in feisty
[10:49] <jacknn> bulmer, would you know how i get the printer's IP?
[10:49] <ketzerei> anurag: I dont know if there is one. Did you install it?
[10:49] <anurag_mishra> ketzerei: do i have to install which package
[10:49] <gnuCLoS> Ubuntu is available for PC, 64-Bit and Mac architectures. At least 256 MB of RAM is required to run the desktop install CD. Install requires at least 4 GB of disk space.
[10:49] <gnuCLoS> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition
[10:49] <Sayeh> ii try to install it on the bigfoot thing
[10:49] <ketzerei> I dont thinks so. If you havent installed a controll center, there isnt one.
[10:50] <syntux> dbrewer, the best would be grabbing the new debs from feisty repos and work on it's dependencies, it would be much easier to control than using dotdeb.
[10:50] <Sayeh> hope it works
[10:50] <jimcooncat> jacknn, try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Print_Server_.28cupsd.29
[10:50] <ketzerei> How do I host folder/directory
[10:50] <_`XeOn_> how to recover my windows boot is ubuntu grub was missed and partition containing ubuntu formated?
[10:50] <aaron_> Can anyone help me get my dual monitors set up properly? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=487345&highlight=twinview
[10:50] <jimcooncat> jacknn, though I haven't tried it myself
[10:50] <rustalot> teryance: is Alt+F2 what you want?
[10:50] <ketzerei> How do I host folder/directory
[10:51] <Sayeh> but hey when i have installed ubuntu i still can enter windows right ???
[10:51] <ketzerei> Sayeh, yes if grub detected it
[10:51] <vox754> _`XeOn_, use the legally purchased Windows CD to boot into the recovery console and repair the master boot record.
[10:51] <anurag_mishra> ketzerei : can you tell me name of package to install: see this http://lunapark6.com/new-gnome-control-center-for-ubuntus-feisty-fawn-gnome-217.html
[10:51] <nickrud> anurag_mishra, install gnome-control-center
[10:51] <Sayeh> i hope so if not my father gonna kill me
[10:51] <ketzerei> anurag, I dont know. I dont use it.
[10:52] <_`XeOn_> vox754<|> thats the problem i didnt make security copies
[10:52] <Lunar_Lamp> I have an avi that I can't open - I assume as the codec is missing (though other avi's work ok).  how can I tell which codec I need?
[10:52] <anurag_mishra> nickrud: ill try and be back in moment
[10:52] <Lunar_Lamp> !mp3
[10:52] <elmo40> WinAmp not running
[10:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:52] <chadeldridge> is there a way to get the net-snmp librarys without installing all of net-snmp ?
[10:52] <ketzerei> !samba
[10:52] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:52] <koki> tehtechman: well i already found out
[10:52] <koki> its normal driver, not legacy one
[10:53] <imbecile> just curious what sort of search string i would use to find cpu chipset for gatweway mx6920 and to find what temp it should be running at.. i got bsod in m$ due to heat and gateway is giving me the run around so i want to sound more like i know what i'm talking about
[10:53] <_`XeOn_> !divx
[10:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <Noodleman> ok, interesting problem someone has probably already seen
[10:53] <teryance> no avant window navigator
[10:53] <anurag_mishra> nickrud: the package is already installed. How can I use it( some terminal comaand or something like that)
[10:53] <teryance> but what do u use that for
[10:53] <Noodleman> sometimes when i boot up, i have eth0 and eth1, and sometimes eth0 and eth2
[10:53] <nickrud> anurag_mishra, gnome-control-center
[10:54] <Noodleman> how do i make that consistent?
[10:54] <dbrewer> syntux: I tried that, using the gutsy repositories... (5.2.3 is not available in feisty, either)
[10:54] <anurag_mishra> nickrud - ok
[10:54] <ketzerei> How do I host folder/directory
[10:54] <dbrewer> syntux: ran into dependency hell there as well.  But maybe I'll give it another shot
[10:54] <Cubey> what syntax is it for using a Makefile?
[10:54] <dbrewer> syntux: since I imagine the dependency hell on compiling PHP is likely to be just as bad or worse
[10:54] <nickrud> anurag_mishra, a useful trick to find out what executables come in a package is dpkg -L <package> | grep bin
[10:54] <anurag_mishra> nickrud: got it. Sorry for mis-communication :)
[10:55] <bruenig> Noodleman, I suggest writing your own init networking script, I did on my arch box and am very happy with the results
[10:55] <ketzerei> How do I host a folder/directory
[10:55] <_`XeOn_> is anyways to recover windows boot using knoppix live cd?
[10:55] <anurag_mishra> just had to type at terminal : gnome-control-centre :)
[10:55] <Scunizi> vox754, I read up on chown & chgrp as well as chmod.  Unfortunately I'm confused. I want to make my ide/hda1 read/write-able by all who access it. Which is the right way?
[10:55] <tehtechman> Cubey: like writing a Makefile?  or using make (man make)
[10:55] <Noodleman> bruenig: well, i'm thinking this is something screwy in how the kernel is assigning interface names, but i really don't know
[10:55] <ketzerei> How do I host a folder/directory
[10:56] <Cubey> hm, using
[10:56] <bruenig> Noodleman, oh you mean to say that the same interface is given different names?
[10:56] <_`XeOn_> !es
[10:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:56] <blizzow> Is doing apt-get dist-upgrade fairly clean process or will there be a lot of detritus on my gutsy system after migrating from feisty?
[10:56] <anurag_mishra> ubotu: how do u work ??? :)
[10:56] <tehtechman> Cubey: usually just type "make"  for more info type "man make"
[10:56] <Noodleman> bruenig: sometimes when i boot up, it's called eth1 and sometimes eth2
[10:56] <Cubey> thanks
[10:56] <Sayeh> i hope 4 GB is enough space for ubuntu
[10:56] <Noodleman> nothing changes in between those times, that i know of
[10:56] <bruenig> Noodleman, how many interfaces do you have?
[10:57] <vox754> Scunizi, probably "sudo chmod a+rwx /media/hda1" I also mentioned to put the default option in fstab.
[10:57] <ketzerei> sayeh it is
[10:57] <Noodleman> bruenig: two interfaces
[10:57] <Sayeh> okay thanks :)
[10:57] <ketzerei> np
[10:57] <bruenig> Noodleman, no dial up interface hanging around anywhere that you don't use?
[10:57] <likwidtek> hey all.
[10:57] <likwidtek> I am getting a solid white screen when enabling desktop effects in fiesty.  Fresh install with integrated graphics
[10:57] <Noodleman> bruenig: nope, no modems or anything
[10:57] <syntux> dbrewer, it's not easy to avoid dependency hell if you want to stay up to date.
[10:57] <likwidtek> any suggestions?
[10:57] <Scunizi> vox754, I did the default option and just did a ctrl-alt-bkspace to no effect. Maybe I should have just rebooted. I'll try the sudo cmd.
[10:57] <ketzerei> How do I host a folder/directory
[10:58] <ketzerei> !php
[10:58] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:58] <Noodleman> bruenig: i do have an ieee1394 card, but it doesn't show up as an interface when i do 'ip a l'
[10:58] <Sayeh> Python is nice
[10:58] <bruenig> Noodleman, that is weird, I was thinking that maybe the dial up interface was not being recognized on occasion causing it to bump the third one to eth1, I could see that happening on my laptop
[10:58] <MilitantPotato> imbecile: 55C max
[10:58] <bruenig> ip a l?
[10:58] <bXi_> okay that was less painfull then i hoped :P
[10:59] <bXi_> installed ubuntu on my dell latitude 120L
[10:59] <Noodleman> bruenig: same as ifconfig
[10:59] <vox754> Scunizi, yes. This may sound awkward in Linux, but rebooting sometimes gives the desired results. Also to apply changes to mount points you usually do not need to reboot, just "sudo umount -a" and "sudo mount -a"
[10:59] <bXi_> and everything just works
[10:59] <bXi_> (cept for the bcm43xx
[10:59] <likwidtek> bXi_ cool man
[10:59] <bruenig> Noodleman, that just means that it hasn't been brought up
[10:59] <bXi_> even got compiz fusion running
[10:59] <jacknn> jimcooncat, OK, am taking a look at it.
[10:59] <MilitantPotato> imbecile:  If you're getting to 50C or over, a fan either died, your heatsink needs the dust taken out, or the heatsink needs re-seated.  There are some chips that run really hot though.
[10:59] <Felipe_> teste liXOOOOO
[10:59] <bruenig> Noodleman, I have eth0 and eth2 on my machine because my dial up interface is never brought up
[10:59] <Noodleman> bruenig: no, the interface is there, it's just got the wrong name
[11:00] <likwidtek> bXi_ I am trying to get compiz working.  I just get a solid white screen tho
[11:00] <bruenig> which is eth1
[11:00] <Noodleman> bruenig: i need to be able to tell it to use the same name every time, so my boot scripts work
[11:00] <jacknn> jimcooncat, the Ubuntuguide reference seems a good basic reference, but, strangely, it refers to /etc/cups/client.conf, which doesn't exist in Feisty...
[11:00] <Scunizi> vox754, sudo cmd worked.  I should do it again recursively as there are files there that are locked. should that be sudo chmod a+rwx -r /media/hda1?
[11:00] <likwidtek> it's an integrated video card tho
[11:00] <likwidtek> does that matter?
[11:00] <vox754> MilitantPotato, are you talking about a dual core?  I saw one running at almost 80 C
[11:00] <Noodleman> bruenig: there is no eth1
[11:00] <MilitantPotato> vox754: 80C is close to thermal break down on CPUs
[11:01] <CppIsWeird> my CPU usage is low, my ram usage is low, and my CPU temp is normal, yet my computer keeps lagging and hanging, how come?
[11:01] <bruenig> Noodleman, you just said you had another card, how many do you have actually, not how many show up in ifconfig
[11:01] <MilitantPotato> Anything over 55-60C shortens the life quickly
[11:01] <jacknn> jimcooncat, I guess I could create it, but I don't know if just one line it it, that required by Ubuntuguide, will do.
[11:01] <MilitantPotato> CppIsWeird: any chance your bios is configured wrong?
[11:01] <CppIsWeird> MilitantPotato: i sure hope not, ubuntu fucks up from hibernation and didnt re-enable my laptop fan, got the CPU to over 85C
[11:01] <Noodleman> bruenig: i have 2 ethernet controllers, and i use 'ip a l' because it shows all interfaces, whether they are up or down
[11:02] <vox754> MilitantPotato, for sure. The PC I mentioned shut down several times. But still the BIOS allowed to shut down at even 110 C. What CPU would run at that temperature safely?!
[11:02] <CppIsWeird> MilitantPotato: probably not, i've been running this setup for about a month now, this is sudden reaction.
[11:02] <MilitantPotato> CppIsWeird: I'd not put it into hybernate if that happens.
[11:02] <jimcooncat> jacknn, not surprising that the client conf doesn't exist
[11:02] <bruenig> Noodleman, what package is ip part of
[11:02] <Noodleman> bruenig: iproute2
[11:02] <vox754> Scunizi, yes, try it. I think you are doing great reading the manual pages.
[11:02] <jimcooncat> jacknn, Ubuntu doesn't expose servers by default
[11:02] <CppIsWeird> MilitantPotato: yeah, no kidding.
[11:02] <ChazGreymane> actually I have an old P3 dell Laptop that the fan only comes on when the cpu hits 72 degrees C
[11:02] <MilitantPotato> vox754:  Pentium Ds got pretty hot, but 80C is extremely hot
[11:03] <Lunar_Lamp> !webcam
[11:03] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:03] <teryance> whats a good window app lancher
[11:03] <bruenig> Noodleman, ok so that would go back to my original theory, the dial up interface is seen sometimes and other times not
[11:03] <Sayeh> !install gz files
[11:03] <bruenig> Noodleman, which is causing the different names
[11:03] <Scunizi> vox754, Thanks.  they are not always the easiest to understand.  I typically need examples.  The command I listed worked only after replacing the -r with -R
[11:04] <Pili> is it possible to update to 7.04 fro 6.10 from the iso as my linux pc doesnt have internet yet
[11:04] <schatan> hello - i have a question how can i set a proxy in xchat-gnome ?
[11:04] <vox754> Pili, no. You need the alternate CD.
[11:04] <bruenig> !info xchat | schatan
[11:04] <ubotu> schatan: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[11:05] <Pili> ok thanks
[11:05] <jacknn> jimcooncat, Yes, I see. So what do I do? Is it necessary? Precisely, this policy has me wondering about the server side. As it is Jetdirect on the client side, I can't use the GUI on the server side, as it open port 631 automatically...
[11:05] <Noodleman> bruenig: ok, but i don't have a modem
[11:05] <Noodleman> bruenig: i just plain don't
[11:05] <Rollera> Hi! I've got a  Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) and it works just fine, apart from the mic
[11:05] <qrt> I'm thinking about buying a new computer and I have an idea which I'd like to know if it is possible. I want a server in the basement which is on 24/7 which lets me watch hd movies on my tv (like a htpc) through some kind of thin client (I don't know if that's the right word), and I want it to replace my normal computer by another "thin client" so I only have the screen, keyboard and mouse...
[11:05] <qrt> ...in the bedroom. Possible? Expensive?
[11:05] <Rollera> I can't record sounds
[11:05] <bruenig> Noodleman, you have something in there
[11:06] <crippler> I just recently installed ubuntu 7/04 desktop vershion on my desktop and things were going good, then after a software update and a reboot the login screen would show but when i logged in it wouldnt show anything but the way the mouse theme was set. any suggestions?
[11:06] <Rollera> Anyone got any poiters? I've ran alsamixer -V All and made sure that nothing's muted
[11:06] <crippler> 7.04*
[11:06] <AutoMatriX> Hi
[11:06] <Pili> vox, do you have a link to the alt cd?
[11:06] <Noodleman> bruenig: is there a way to statically assign the interface names?
[11:06] <vox754> !alternate | Pili
[11:06] <ubotu> Pili: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:06] <bruenig> Noodleman, I don't think so
[11:06] <schatan> how can i setup a proxy in xchat-gnome ?
[11:06] <jimcooncat> jacknn, I'd forget about jetdirect as well as the CUPS web GUI, and just give the ubuntuguide a shot.
[11:06] <vox754> Pili, sorry. You'll find it. Trust me.
[11:07] <teryance> any one
[11:07] <Pili> oki
[11:07] <schatan> privat massege pls because my english is very bad and i cant read so fast
[11:07] <jimcooncat> If you want to find out more about client.conf, you can "man client.conf"
[11:07] <crippler> 7.04*
[11:07] <sunken> Rollera: check alsa documentation
[11:07] <crippler> I just recently installed ubuntu 7/04 desktop vershion on my desktop and things were going good, then after a software update and a reboot the login screen would show but when i logged in it wouldnt show anything but the way the mouse theme was set. any suggestions?
[11:07] <crippler> 7.04*
[11:07] <teryance> im newbe just switched from windows
[11:07] <jacknn> jimcooncat, that would mean setting up a client file with only one line in it, but why not. Will try.
[11:08] <Rollera> sunken, which part of it? I've browsed around the site.. If you don't have anything more specific than that, it's not uber helpful
[11:08] <teryance> but i want a windows app lancher
[11:08] <teryance> any one
[11:08] <gnuCLoS> crippler that happened to me once before too.. i just reinstalled and it hasnt happened again
[11:08] <CheesyMonkey> crippler, Id look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log thats an X error by the sounds of it :)
[11:08] <vox754> qrt, sound pretty cool. I would say it is very possible, but I don't know how you would do it.
[11:08] <Pili> oh der, lol i found it thanks vox
[11:08] <jimcooncat> jacknn, your client will print through cups to the server, which will then pass the job directly to the printer. No jetdirect involved as far as anyone sees
[11:08] <gnuCLoS> crip: but sure thats not he answer u wanna hear though
[11:08] <Sayeh> thanks for the help guys im think its working now !! bye bye
[11:09] <crippler> i am reinstalling. May take longer but It is bound to be succesful, aswell as efficent
[11:09] <zweiundzwei> hello, i have a very persistent problem with my screen resolution, would anyone be willing to help me out there?
[11:09] <qrt> vox754, guess I'll keep looking :)
[11:09] <sunken> Rollera: I edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and for my sndcard I needed this line at the end; options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[11:09] <qrt> Anyone know a _good_ forum for hardware questions?
[11:09] <solveai> runlevel tells me "N2", I look into /etc/rc2.d ... and I don't know what starts networking. (I need to start iptables before that, so I don't know what number to start iptables at)
[11:09] <CheesyMonkey> crippler, Yep, so long as you have nothing to loose
[11:09] <sunken> Rollera: then I did a reboot
[11:10] <Rollera> sunken: It's not an intel tho :/ It's an nVidia with a realtek chipset
[11:10] <Enselic> I cannot add the user test, does anyone know why?
[11:10] <Noodleman> bruenig: /etc/udev/rules.d/25-iftab.rules
[11:10] <Enselic> I can add e.g. test2, but not test
[11:10] <Noodleman> bruenig: i think that's what i'm looking for
[11:10] <crippler> ChessyMonkey, I dont this is my 233mhz laptop with DSLinux i just installed ubuntu 3 days ago
[11:10] <schatan> how can i setup a proxy in xchat-gnome ?
[11:10] <zweiundzwei> I have a nvidia geforce 6100 video card and the resolution won't go over 1024x786, even after editing xorg.conf or installing the official nvidia driver. any ideas?
[11:11] <eddie> Hello, does anyone know how to use SCP to  copy a HOLE folder?
[11:11] <vox754> zweiundzwei, mail the nvidia developers for not developing working drivers.
[11:11] <gdb> What's a hole folder?
[11:12] <eddie> a Folder instead of a single file
[11:12] <solveai> gdb: it's a folder with a seg fault in it
[11:12] <noodles12> what's a good video editting program for linux to make music videos? like adobe premiere? WOuld something like kino be best or is there a better alternative/
[11:12] <gdb> I mean, is it like a sparse file?
[11:12] <noodles12> ?
[11:12] <gdb> I didn't think one could create directories with holes in them.
[11:12] <teryance> and i cant get my wireless card to work
[11:12] <eddie> whole*
[11:12] <qrt> gdb, he obviously means whole
[11:12] <zweiundzwei> vox754, or ubuntu, for not supplying me with a working driver either? ;)
[11:12] <gdb> oh
[11:12] <solveai> u can on this OS I once used, I think it was called on windows
[11:12] <sunken> Rollera: yeah, thats why you need to read about alsa to make right options
[11:12] <schatan> schatan
[11:12] <gdb> qrt: No, it's not obvious, and yes, I'm pedantic.
[11:13] <eddie> Stupid spelling :p
[11:13] <gdb> eddie: scp folder_name user@host:destination
[11:13] <schatan> how can i setup a proxy in xchat-gnome ?
[11:13] <tehtechman> noodles12: Ive heard cinelerra is good but has a learning curve.
[11:13] <eddie> gdb: tried that... didnt work
[11:13] <eddie> ill try again
[11:13] <phaidros> hi, anybody pulseaudio with skype 1.4 (no oss, just alsa) running ??
[11:14] <gdb> eddie: sorry add a -r
[11:14] <gdb> scp -r
[11:14] <Rollera> sunken: Then I ask you again, which part of the docs did you read to figure that out ?
[11:14] <gdb> eddie: This is documented in the man page.
[11:14] <acke_> i attached pocket pda and this was written in dmesg. usb 3-1.3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0     how would i do to mount it?
[11:15] <sunken> Rollera: Hmm, do not remember.  Please w8
[11:15] <schatan> how can i setup a proxy in xchat-gnome ?
[11:15] <noodles12> tehtechman: is that in the repos?
[11:15] <TiMiDo> hey how do you mount an external hard drive?
[11:15] <tehtechman> noodles12: not sure about ubuntu, but i know many other ditsros have it
[11:16] <tiax> schatan: you'll have to edit the configuration file yourself because xchat-gnome doesn't provide a settings interface for that. Did you consider switching to normal xchat instead?
[11:16] <metalfan> hi
[11:16] <metalfan> envy kicks ass
[11:16] <acke_> TiMiDo: it depends on what filesystem you have on it i guess
[11:16] <TiMiDo> acke_, i do not know =)
[11:16] <sunken> Rollera: /alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3/alsa-kernel/Documentation/ALSA-Configuration.txt
[11:17] <joshritger> can someone please tell me which plugin I need to play MMS (Microsoft Media Server) content?
[11:17] <acke_> TiMiDo: external usb usually are found at /dev/sda*
[11:17] <Nalleman> Is it possible to open rar archives in ubuntu?
[11:17] <metalfan> ive just installed the latest nvidia driver with envy, what values do you get from "glxgears" ?  me: ~11000 (3800+, 8600gt)
[11:17] <vox754> !rar | Nalleman
[11:17] <ubotu> Nalleman: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:17] <misstajah> Question: I have installed the nvidia-new drivers so I could run my Asus F3SC T7100/1GB/160GB SATA/DVD+-RW, but everytime my X tries to start, the computer reboots. why is that?  In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:18] <acke_> TiMiDo: or you could try sudo mount -a
[11:18] <misstajah> envy?
[11:18] <acke_> TiMiDo: and hope to be lucky
[11:18] <preaction> !envy | misstajah
[11:18] <ubotu> misstajah: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:18] <Rollera> sunken: Thanks for your effort tho
[11:19] <flashbak> Does anyone use Edgy and xawtv4 with ivtv that wouldn't mind offering some advice reguarding an mpeg ts error?
[11:19] <metalfan> misstajah, its a program who fights ubuntus "awesome" nvidia support
[11:19] <metalfan> misstajah, search with google: envy ubuntu
[11:19] <misstajah> whatever
[11:19] <misstajah> :P
[11:19] <coastermaster> if I use qemu to run windows apps seamlessly, will I be able to access my home directory/
[11:20] <Murrlin> afternoon all.
[11:20] <eddie> Use Wine.... works great with ubuntu
[11:20] <coastermaster> I thought Office 2007 doesn't work with wine
[11:20] <coastermaster> and I really like that ribbon :)
[11:20] <fadey> does anyone know what does "rc" in dpkg -l output means?
[11:21] <bee2643> 1) it doesnt work with wine
[11:21] <vox754> flashbak, is xawtv4 different from xawtv and what is exactly ivtv?
[11:21] <eddie> oh Office 2007
[11:21] <bee2643> 2) the ribbon is stupid :p
[11:21] <eddie> 3) 2007 is bulky and ewww
[11:21] <bee2643> ^agreed
[11:21] <kduboi1> MilitantPotato: my brother's pentium D ran constantly at 85 *C until i got a better fan
[11:21] <Murrlin> for gnome, and seperately, for kde, which of the dot-files/dirs on my home partition do I need to delete, to redo the OS on my root partition
[11:21] <schatan> how can i write a proxy support in the xchat config ???
[11:21] <misstajah> metalfan envy 6.0 ? is that it?
[11:21] <schatan> how can i write a proxy support in the xchat config ???
[11:21] <metalfan> i have disabled cpu frequency manager below services, but my cpu is again clocked to 1ghz...whats going on?
[11:21] <eddie> I just use gedit or open office :P
[11:21] <sunken> Rollera: get a look at that document, you 'will' find information in it. It is realy big. Not gonna read it for you
[11:21] <metalfan> misstajah, read the page
[11:21] <tiax> I want to use a 1440x900 screen next to my 1400x1050 built-in laptop screen. I read about MergedFB which will still let me have DRI. But some say it can't cope with the resulting 2840x1950 resolution when I want a "big" desktop, is that true?
[11:21] <coastermaster> does open office support equations in text?
[11:21] <Murrlin> changing from ubuntu to debian, or other such distros
[11:22] <misstajah> ok
[11:22] <bee2643> wine's website has a whole archive of all the windows apps that work with wine.
[11:22] <MilitantPotato> kduboi1: Yea I dont doubt it :)  They where made to get pretty warm, but thats pretty hit
[11:22] <bee2643> maybe try office 2000
[11:22] <coastermaster> i know I could use LaTeX, but I don't know it and I haven't had the time
[11:22] <MilitantPotato> hot*
[11:22] <coastermaster> office 2k doesn't have built in equation support
[11:22] <Murrlin> which dot dirs/files are safe to delete before the reinstall and which arent?
[11:22] <eddie> PC-PC connection via ethernet... 11megs/sec ... is that good :|
[11:22] <bee2643> 11mbps direct connection...no
[11:22] <metalfan> eddie, 100mbit
[11:22] <kduboi1> tiax: i had the same problem. many ati cards only support a max texture resolution of 2048x2048. its a hardware limitation. i had to buy an nvidia card because of it
[11:22] <_`XeOn_> how to fix this?
[11:22] <_`XeOn_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:22] <beni> Is there any program to clone dvd's?
[11:22] <eddie> ah okay
[11:22] <bee2643> eddie: you should get at least 100mbps
[11:23] <coastermaster> beni: i use dvd95
[11:23] <tiax> kduboi1: well I can't to that with my laptop, there's no other way?
[11:23] <metalfan> bee2643, hes getting 100mbits, he means 11mbyte/s
[11:23] <flashbak> Noone's using xawtv4 on Edgy?
[11:23] <bee2643> oh ok
[11:23] <eddie> Megabits or megabytes ?:P
[11:23] <tupa> how can I make grub recognize my secondary master hdd automatically?
[11:24] <schatan> tiax i have the same problem but in windows it wasnt
[11:24] <schatan> now in ubuntu with catalyst it is
[11:24] <schatan> in big screen mode
[11:24] <schatan> i cant make one size for ech screen
[11:24] <kduboi1> tiax: with the high resolutions you're using, theres no way to have dri on both. You might be able to have two x servers running though, wiht the main screen dri-enabled, second one not dri enabled. i've never tried that though. it sounds like a bloody mess :-)
[11:24] <nickrud> Murrlin, nearly all should be compatible distro to distro, it's more a matter of which release of each app you're using, and has that app changed the way it stores info?
[11:25] <Murrlin> I see
[11:25] <tiax> kduboi1: from what I read it think this will not let me move windows between the two desktops, right?
[11:25] <tiax> nor will it let me use beryl
[11:25] <schatan> in kubuntu is was no problem to set two different sizes
[11:25] <d2leo> Can someone help me setup my partitions, I want to make sure I'm doing it right.
[11:25] <vox754> flashbak, is it in the repositories? I only use xawtv, but not xawtv4.
[11:26] <flashbak> xawtv4 is required for ivtv according to xawtv's home page. Ubuntu xawtv 3.9.x will not work
[11:27] <kduboi1> tiax: yeah, thats a side effect. do a glxinfo -l | grep TEX ( i think thats the command i use, i'm not at my home computer now) and it should tell you your maximum 3d texture size
[11:27] <puppe> Would like to be able to stop the "ls" command (and others) to stop printing text to the screen when it reaches the end of the screen. Something like the dos "dir /p" command
[11:27] <vox754> d2leo, just ask.
[11:27] <holycow> which folder can i remove to reset the gnome settings ... i thought it was .gnome but .gnome2 is there as well as .gnome-desktop and .gnome-private?
[11:27] <eusoutacc> Hi
[11:27] <kduboi1> flashbak: i think its the other way around. ivtv are the drivers
[11:28] <toryl__> puppe:  you can use |less
[11:28] <puppe> toryl_: oh, that is how to do it?! oki, will try
[11:28] <flashbak> Yes, ivtv are the drivers for an ivtv card. Xawtv4 is required to use them. Xawtv4 gives an mpeg ts error in Edgy only and worked fine in the last dist.
[11:29] <d2leo> vox754, i had ubuntu installed, with a seperate partition for music movies etc, but now i have an external so this is unneeded.  Do I only need an ntfs for windows, ext3 for linux, and swap?
[11:30] <Murrlin> thanks. *departs to mull over things some more*
[11:30] <vox754> d2leo, sounds fair. You could mess a little your system if you like by creating partitions for /boot and /usr. But it is not necessary. What file system will the external hard disk have?
[11:31] <NickPugh> Can someone please tell me how i can check what my graphics card is please
[11:31] <twocarlo> i dont want to experiment on that
[11:31] <kduboi1> flashbak: try compiling from source. perhaps they made two different builds for edgy and fiesty or whatever you used to use. i take it you're using a digitial card then
[11:32] <twocarlo> as i use ubuntu, i have to buy another hard disk for it
[11:32] <flashbak> There is no xawtv4 package, it must be done from source and compiles fine. Everything is fine but the mpeg transport layer.
[11:32] <twocarlo> its fun using ubuntu
[11:32] <Logikos> i setup my ubuntu server a couple months ago, got everything working, then i havent touched it, today i tryed to log into it from the councel or ssh, and it doesnt let me, if i give any password except one specific password it says 'access denied' then reprompts for a password, if i give the one specific password it tells me the version number, date, programs included are free software and a copywrite path and last login then kicks me out
[11:32] <d2leo> vox754, what would the /boot and /usr partitions do?  Just shortcuts?  And I was thinking of leaving the external fat32 so I could use it on windows as well and not mess around with ntfs-3g
[11:33] <Logikos> i know my password, i didnt forget it ... but i cant get in ?
[11:33] <d2leo> vox754, although i might change my mind about the fat32
[11:33] <Asathoor> hi
[11:34] <kduboi1> flashbak: have you tried other ways to verify the drivers are working/not working?
[11:34] <kduboi1> like vlc?
[11:34] <NickPugh> Has any1 heard about the latest terrorist attacks that they have done on the internet about the root virus or something like that how can i get rid of one
[11:34] <moDumass> morning all, hey i did an update and now "bittorrent" is used to open all torrent files, whereas i used to use Ktorrent, how do i get ktorrent to open torrent files as the default app
[11:34] <Asathoor> suddenly my gdm does'nt work...
[11:34] <scorp123> NickPugh: "root virus" ???
[11:34] <kduboi1> NickPugh: i think that was an article on slashdot or digg today concerning macs
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> rootkit
[11:35] <scorp123> d2leo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[11:35] <kduboi1> not linuxes
[11:35] <Junecy> Hello.
[11:35] <vox754> d2leo, you could use ext3 on the external and use the ext3 driver in Win XP, however it may not work for Vista. The /boot folder holds the boot loader and the kernel so it could be treated separately. The /usr is just in case you want to have the separate partition only for applications. As I said, they are not really needed.
[11:36] <Asathoor> xdm and kdm works - but not gdm
[11:36] <pjotter> good evening everyone
[11:36] <Asathoor> hi
[11:36] <Junecy> Is there a comprehensive list of WINE programs? I.E. what I can use in wine?
[11:36] <scorp123> vox754: .... but highly recommended :-)
[11:36] <pjotter> I have a serious question about this chat
[11:36] <scorp123> vox754: putting everything on one single root partition is just silly
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !rootkit
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <sunken> how do I find out what codec chip my snd card have?
[11:37] <d2leo> vox754, if i made a /boot partition, what would be a good size?
[11:37] <Asathoor> wine :: as long as they are pretty simple an don't use active x the will work....
[11:37] <NickPugh> Jack_Sparrow: Yea Root kit viruses i just switched back from windows and i think i have one how would i get it off my hardrive
[11:37] <pjotter> I just discovered that all discussions in this chat are being logged and are publicly accesible on internet.
[11:37] <scorp123> d2leo: 100 M would be enough .... but such a partition would have to be on the beginning of the harddisk or else it won't make much sense :-)
[11:37] <beni> How can i literally CLONE a DVD in Ubuntu? I Need help dudes :)
[11:38] <spy80us> suggestion for zen vision m?  any player that i can use?
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> NickPugh: Not sure.. never really knew anyone that had it..
[11:38] <Asathoor> beni > perhaps by creating an iso image...?
[11:38] <Junecy> Well I have WineTools. it offers DirectX9...if I installed that would I be able to use a program such as Windows Media player?
[11:38] <vox754> d2leo, it would be ext2 and like 100 MB to be on the safe side. Actually there are some issues with upgrading that needed the /boot folder to have at least 50 MB of free space, so beware. Thanks to scorp123 for the advices. Anything you can contribute is welcomed.
[11:38] <beni> Asathoor: And how? I'm not familiar with the whole dvd thingy
[11:38] <aeg37> i'm trying to install conky and when I run ./configure I get the following error message: "configure: error: Could not find XDamageQueryExtension in -1Xdamage"
[11:39] <kduboi1> NickPugh: !virus
[11:39] <NickPugh> Jack_Sparrow: A friend of mine told me to go to avg and get their root kit virus killler thing but i think that that is just for windows so does any1 know what i should do
[11:39] <pjotter> Maybe it'snot such a big deal..still... the loginnames are being logged too. Maybe that is something some poeple would want to keep private?
[11:39] <Cyber_Stalker> hi guys...
[11:39] <scorp123> NickPugh: I think you are dreaming
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> NickPugh: Why do you think you have a problem?
[11:39] <Pici> NickPugh: look uo chrootkit
[11:39] <Junecy> NickPugh, avg makes products for linux OS as well.
[11:39] <royel> NickPugh: linux doesn't have virii.. so it would have to be for windows
[11:39] <aeg37> anyone?
[11:39] <z0rz> What's a good CLI audio player that supports A2DP?
[11:39] <scorp123> NickPugh: I use Linux since 1996 and *NEVER* *EVER* had a "Linux virus" ... that's just hysteria.
[11:39] <d2leo> scorp123 , vox754: this is really a pain to resize partitions with the ubuntu install disc.  I did this before with some program and it was way easier.
[11:39] <Cyber_Stalker> what exactly does sudo apt-get upgrade do? will it update me to the latest ubuntu release? OR will it just update to the most current release of my current version being Dapper
[11:40] <NickPugh> Jack_Sparrow:  i keept getting the blue screen of death
[11:40] <juano__> hello all
[11:40] <aeg37> d2leo get gparted
[11:40] <kduboi1> scorp123: me neither (2002 though)
[11:40] <aeg37> they have a live cd
[11:40] <aeg37> it's really simple and easy
[11:40] <TACC_adams> I'm having issues installing 7.04 on my Inspiron 1520.  I've tried text install and also tried "noapic nolapic" boot options but with no luck
[11:40] <juano__> can someone help me ? i just installed ubuntu 7.04 fiesty fawn and im having an error with repositories ?
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> NickPugh: That dosent mean anything
[11:40] <tiax> Cyber_Stalker: as long as you don't change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to something else than dapper, it will stay dapper
[11:40] <TACC_adams> Is installing 6.10 and upgrading to 7.04 the only way to do it?
[11:40] <Cyber_Stalker> ok
[11:40] <scorp123> NickPugh: and "root kits" are *NOT* a virus ... it's a backdoor a human hacker left behind. But as a home user your chances of encountering such a thing are rather small ....
[11:40] <d2leo> aeg37: i think i might have used that, not sure.  It let me drag a line to show how big I wanted a partition to be.
[11:41] <Cyber_Stalker> tiax: if i change it to fiesty? it will upgrade me to fiesty right?
[11:41] <spy80us> any suggestion for zen vision m?  banshee or amarok or other?
[11:41] <Logikos> its been a couple months since i loged into my ubuntu box, its version 6.06.1 LTS server, i've tryed multipal logins, if i get the wrong pass, it says login failed, if i get the right pass it tells me crap about the programs included are free, and a path to a copyright file, and that ubuntu has no warranty, and my last login day and time, then says ttyl then prompts for login again ..... help please
[11:41] <royel> scorp123: I think there is only 2 or 3 known virus that have been able to attack linux
[11:41] <vox754> d2leo, the ubuntu CD uses GParted, which is a front end for parted. You may also try QTParted. Mostly is the same program. I don't think is is a pain. Just remember that bigger partitions take more time.
[11:41] <d2leo> aeg37: unfortunately right now, im in the process of reinstalling ubuntu, so id have to mess with that later
[11:41] <scorp123> royel: in *LABS* ... yes. But *NONE* in the wild :-)
[11:41] <aeg37> d2leo: that sounds like gparted. it's really intuitive and fast
[11:41] <NickPugh> Jack_Sparrow: that is exactly what happened to a friend of mine and he said he had a root kit virus just going by what he said so srry for the trouble
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:42] <blizzow> anyone here know if apt-get dist upgrade will automagically deal with encrypted / partition?
[11:42] <aeg37> aeg37: well if you're still partitioning you haven't changed anything yet right?
[11:42] <scorp123> blizzow: encrypted how?
[11:42] <pjotter> does anyone here know someone called fabionne?
[11:42] <spy80us> any suggestion for zen vision m?  banshee or amarok or other?
[11:42] <aeg37> d2leo: and gparted is a livecd
[11:42] <scorp123> blizzow: I am asking because there are various ways to do it ...
[11:42] <Junecy> Here's a challenge for someone. I have a HP iPaq H3800 series; I do NOT have the cradle for it. How (without cables) can I install linux onto it?
[11:42] <aeg37> d2leo: are you doing graphical or console?
[11:42] <blizzow> scorp123: LuKS cryptsetup.
[11:42] <juano__> can someone help me with fiesty ? i installed it recently and it sais that there is an error with indexes in my repos
[11:43] <royel> TACC_adams: thats one way to do it, personally I think I'd look at the alternate install disc first
[11:43] <d2leo> vox754: the way im doing it is with that prepare partitions step in the ubuntu cd
[11:43] <juano__> whats that all about ?
[11:43] <royel> !alternate | TACC_adams
[11:43] <ubotu> TACC_adams: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:43] <d2leo> aeg37: im graphical
[11:43] <scorp123> blizzow: aaaaah ... that might be tricky. Sorry but I don't have enough knowledge.
[11:43] <tiax> Cyber_Stalker: to do the whole upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade would do that
[11:43] <Cyber_Stalker> tiax: are you still around? if i change my sources to fiesty will it upgrade me to fiesty? and if so how big will the updates be?
[11:43] <Logikos> help please, its been a couple months since i loged into my ubuntu box, its version 6.06.1 LTS server, i've tryed multipal logins, if i get the wrong pass, it says login failed, if i get the right pass it tells me crap about the programs included are free, and a path to a copyright file, and that ubuntu has no warranty, and my last login day and time, then says ttyl then prompts for login again
[11:43] <blizzow> scorp123: I guess we'll find out now...eeep! :)
[11:43] <NickPugh> What all do i need to be able to use geany cause i cant get it to compile or build or execute anything
[11:43] <TACC_adams> Ah, I didn't realize I couldn't do a text install from the standard disc
[11:43] <TACC_adams> Thanks
[11:43] <Cyber_Stalker> ok, do you have any idea how big the downloads would be? since im from south africa im limited by my bandwidth
[11:43] <vox754> d2leo, it is the same as just running GParted directly. Check it out. It is ready to use in the Live CD.
[11:44] <tiax> Cyber_Stalker: well I don't know if upgrading from daper to feisty directly will be a good idea. All people I know who did that did Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty
[11:44] <kbrooks> Cyber_Stalker, dapper -> feisty is not supported
[11:45] <Cyber_Stalker> ok
[11:45] <kbrooks> Cyber_Stalker, only dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[11:45] <tiax> Cyber_Stalker: I guess considerung having a Feisty CD shipped to you (for free) would be reasonable then
[11:45] <Cyber_Stalker> so its dapper, edgy, feisty
[11:45] <juano__> can someone help me with fiesty ? i installed it recently and it sais that there is an error with indexes in my repos
[11:45] <goofy> my deskop wont load..... ubuntu will boot up and i can use it like normal but my desktop itd just that ubuntu brown without my icons
[11:45] <EnsGabe> Is there a simple way to backport a kernel?  Just grabbing a .deb from gutsy to use in feisty won't completely work since I'm using restricted drivers, and linux-restriced-modules requires linux-headers which, for gutsy, requires a newer version of libc6 than installed and I'm not about to gut libc6.
[11:45] <Cyber_Stalker> yea tiax i have ordered the cd, but a 4 week wait time is annoying :D
[11:45] <d2leo> vox754: i shaved some space off of my ext3 partition, I wanted to add this to the ntfs partition.  But it just shows up as free space underneath ext3, and I cant add anymore storage to my ntfs
[11:46] <nickrud> Logikos, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, does that get you your graphical login?
[11:46] <misstajah> wii metalfan it's done! the graphs are great! thank you for the tip!
[11:46] <nickrud> Logikos, erm, sorry, didn't read the last line clearly
[11:46] <fadey> hi,all. I can't install vim-full for kubuntu (package versions don't match http://pastebin.com/m5ee3269b ). Could anyone help?
[11:46] <tont> I have of the problems with sudo, when start of the programs type adept, wassistant says su has given back an error to me. what I can make?
[11:47] <pjotter> Does anyone know why the logged discsussion on this chat are being stored on this site: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ ??
[11:47] <d2leo> vox754: I'm just gonna add it to my ext3 partition for now and resize them later
[11:47] <NickPugh> What all do i need to install to be able to use geany someone please help me
[11:48] <metalfan> misstajah, no problem
[11:48] <misstajah> tomorrow i'll have another bitchy issue
[11:48] <misstajah> bye! :D
[11:48] <vox754> d2leo, yes. It may be tricky to handle ntfs. mmm... I should mention that I prefer to partition with the Knoppix CD and not Ubuntu's, but that is my preferred choice.
[11:48] <tiax> NickPugh: if you're running edgy or above, you only have to activate universe repositories
[11:49] <NickPugh> tiax: I'm using fiesty so how do i do that
[11:49] <orbisvicis_> my pc just froze ... does dmesg have a log somewhere ?
[11:49] <nickrud> Logikos, log into the terminal, then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -ph xserver-xorg. Then do the gdm restart line above
[11:49] <EnsGabe> Is anyone here familiar with performing custom kernel upgrades?
[11:49] <nickrud> Logikos, thats -phigh ;)
[11:49] <ThanatosDrive> pjotter; that's an interesting find.
[11:50] <EnsGabe> I'm trying to get a 2.6.22 kernel working on feisty with my wireless card
[11:50] <OldPink> Hi all, on my new Ubuntu laptop. How do I change my IRC name from OldPink to OldPink|laptop ? :)
[11:50] <d2leo> vox754: i just added a /boot partition, but it is showing up as the 3rd partition down, underneath ntfs and ext3
[11:50] <ThanatosDrive> OldPink: Use /nick
[11:50] <tiax> NickPugh: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:50] <carlosbarbosachi> hello to everyone, one quick question how can i find the mac adress of a computer running ubuntu
[11:50] <d2leo> vox754: would that not work?
[11:51] <gordonjcp> carlosbarbosachi: ifconfig
[11:51] <rjek> Hi.  Suspend oddity on my laptop: The first time in any single GNOME session that I bring the shutdown window up, the suspend/hibenate options are not there.  Any subsequent time they are.  However, suspend doesn't appear to function - it just sits there with a blank screen blinking the moon LED indefinetly.  I'm sure it used to be able to suspend.  Any ideas?
[11:51] <OldPink|laptop> Done?
[11:51] <royel> OldPink|laptop: lap dances?
[11:51] <moDumass> how do i set a specific app as the default for handeling a file type?
[11:51] <OldPink|laptop> All good. :D
[11:52] <royel> I knew you could do it
[11:52] <OldPink|laptop> Thanks thanatosdrive
[11:52] <MilitantPotato> Does linux need defragged?
[11:52] <pjotter> ThanatosDrive: I did a search with my ip and this came up first.Maybe it'snot such a big deal. Only... people's loginnames are stored along with there IP's... and for everyone to see.  I think it's not a good idea from anprivacy perspective..
[11:52] <vox754> d2leo, /boot should go first because the BIOS needs to boot from the inner cylinders. That was important for older BIOS, now it may juts work fine. Having separate partitions is just to keep things organized.
[11:52] <royel> never underestimate the power of text based installs!
[11:52] <blizzow> scorp123: it worked!
[11:52] <ThanatosDrive> pjotter: You
[11:52] <goofy> my desktop wont load .... any ideas
[11:52] <ThanatosDrive> pjotter: You're probably right, although, anyone can just whois any of us and get the same info, right?
[11:52] <rjek> MilitantPotato: Not really.  If you're running XFS, you can use xfs_fsr from the xfsdump package.  But you don't really need to - the file systems aren't written by morons.
[11:52] <twocarlo_> MilitantPotato: no
[11:53] <MilitantPotato> That's a nice change :)
[11:53] <d2leo> vox754: okay, does it matter what type it is: primary or logical?
[11:53] <scorp123> blizzow: oh cool
[11:53] <bokken> I have some technical needs for installing ubuntu. It could just be that my hardware is incompatable, but when installing Ububtu, 1 of two things happen. I either install Ubuntu and my computer restarts and says that it can't load anything (including my Windows XP OS which is on a different HDD).
[11:53] <Cyber_Stalker>  tiax so if i use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it will upgrade me to the next version? so in my case from dapper to edgy?
[11:54] <goofy> my desktop wont load after login
[11:54] <vox754> d2leo, no. As you know it is better to create first 3 primary, then the extended one containing a variable number of logical.
[11:54] <MilitantPotato> bokken: did you set the linux boot to / ?
[11:54] <spy80us> my zen vision m mp3 player is not being detected
[11:54] <bokken> I should have
[11:54] <bokken> but it was a while aho
[11:54] <NickPugh> tiax: My roommate told me to download lib files  for it is that a good idea
[11:54] <bokken> ago*
[11:54] <bokken> does that sound like what it could be?
[11:54] <aschedinn> Can anyone think of a reason why none of my SSL based stuff is working?  psftp, https, putty, ssh..connects to localhost and 1 other computer on the network
[11:55] <pjotter> ThanatosDrive: I was just surprised to see my actual loginname appear too.I wasn't expecting to see that to appear in a public log. It's not a good idea to make your loginname publicly available.
[11:55] <scorp123> MilitantPotato: Linux filesystems were to a large part written with Linux as Server OS in mind. So Ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS et al try really really hard to avoid fragmentation. So defragging is usually not needed. You can tell by the fact that there is no defrag tool for e.g. Ext3 and ReiserFS. XFS only has one "pro forma" but it's not really needed.
[11:55] <bokken> my friend who built this computer tried to install an older version of ubuntu and the same thing happened to him
[11:55] <carlosbarbosachi> ok thankyou, one last thing... is it really better ubuntu server than ubuntu desktop for a corporate server only hosting a sugarcrm installation..?
[11:55] <askand> How do I find out what graphicscard I have? preffarblu from the termina
[11:55] <tiax> Cyber_Stalker: only if you change your /etc/apt/sources.list to edgy where it says dapper
[11:55] <rjek> askand: lspci is a good start.
[11:56] <stuart_> heyx
[11:56] <aschedinn> askand: or scanpci
[11:56] <stuart_> i had a 2nd HD in windows but after installing ubuntu i dno't seem to be able to access it
[11:56] <d2leo> vox754: okay, im just going to do a normal partition for now, but ill use gparted after ubuntu installation.
[11:56] <stuart_> hwo could i find it because I can't seem to mount hda1/5/hdb/hdc etc.
[11:56] <stuart_> and my previous partition was NTFS
[11:57] <pjotter> But you're right... right now... when someone logs in... I can see every loginname of every person. That's fine for peopleon this chat. But I don;t see why anyone else outside this chatroomshould know themalso.
[11:57] <vox754> d2leo, I would recommend setting up your partitions before any install. That looks neater.
[11:57] <bokken> stuart: did you format the second hard drive to ubuntu?
[11:57] <stuart_> bokk: did not, because i had some data there that i wanted to use on ubuntu
[11:57] <aschedinn> Can anyone think of a reason why none of my SSL based stuff is working?  psftp, https, putty, ssh..connects to localhost and 1 other computer on the network...it hangs on debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[11:57] <SmokeyD> pjotter, what keeps people from logging in to the channel and seeing them that way
[11:58] <d2leo> vox754: then can i get to gparted through terminal or something?
[11:58] <tiax> pjotter: well you could always change the username part in irc to something else in your irc client and apply for a cloak to hide your ip address on irc
[11:58] <carlosbarbosachi> what do i need to build noip2?
[11:58] <bokken> stu: so how did you install ubuntu? or maybe im just not understanding the problem...is the problem in windows or ubuntu? im not an ubuntu master or anything
[11:58] <SmokeyD> if someone is interested enough to find stuff out about you, they are perfectly able to withouth the logs
[11:58] <stuart_> i had a D: in windows. i decided to screw windows and installed ubuntu over on C:
[11:59] <stuart_> right now, i can't see my D: anymore
[11:59] <impl> D:
[11:59] <_`XeOn_> how to get rid of this error
[11:59] <_`XeOn_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:59] <Cyber_Stalker> stuart are you sure you didnt select "format whole hardrive"
[11:59] <NickPugh>
[11:59] <NickPugh>
[11:59] <Cyber_Stalker> _`XeOn_:  you need to close synaptic
[11:59] <impl> I heard Ubuntu sucks Debian's huge black cock.
[11:59] <NickPugh> Crap Sorry
[11:59] <d2leo> vox754: nevermind, sudo gp[arted in terminal got me there :p
[11:59] <impl> And it likes it.
[11:59] <stuart_> i'm pretty sure i formatted only C:, because nwo I can't even see my empty second HD
[11:59] <vox754> d2leo, mmm... damn I'm slow....
[12:00] <Cyber_Stalker> or some thing along those lines, like i had synaptic running and tried to do an apt-get upgrade... and it gave me that error
[12:00] <impl> Then Gentoo slaps the fuck out of the both of 'em.
[12:00] <bokken> stu: it sounds like you did...but you can still run windoes or on ubuntu now becuase windows is usually run off of c:
[12:00] <pjotter> Well... it'snot such a big deal.. still... it is something people should know when logging into this chat.
[12:00] <ompaul> !ohmy | impl
[12:00] <ubotu> impl: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:00] <Cyber_Stalker> also if you have an upgrade or something running you will get that error when trying to do some thing at the same time
[12:00] <vox754> _`XeOn_, close any terminal and any synaptic window.
[12:00] <metalfan> ive changed my xorg.conf, how can i restart xorg? if i log out, will x restart?
[12:00] <impl> !ohmy | #ubuntu
[12:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:00] <impl> HRHRHRHRHRHR
[12:00] <NickPugh> how do i register my nickname any1 wanna help me please
[12:00] <willdev_> lol
[12:00] <blizzow> Gentoo is for Ricers?
[12:00] <willdev_> test


[03:15] <Mia> Hey all, the shados of the day/time on my lock screen are messed up http://i.imgur.com/Q6LhnHs.png --- how can I fix this?
[04:03] <darkxst> Mia what gpu/drivers are you using?
[04:13] <Mia> darkxst, I2m running ubuntu gnome on a virtual machine (virtualbox)
[04:13] <darkxst> its probably a virtualbox bug
[05:30] <Mia> hmm I see
[05:30] <Mia> well one more question
[05:31] <Mia> is it possible to enable global menu bar (at top, like this one http://i.stack.imgur.com/73aX2.png) for ubuntu gnome latest version?
[05:46] <darkxst> Mia no, that is only possible on Ubuntu
[05:46] <darkxst> (Unity)
[05:47] <Mia> hm ok thanks!
[08:37] <berglh> Mia: if you want pretty mac looking stuff, maybe you should try elementaryos
[08:37] <berglh> just an idea
[08:39] <berglh> although it's not trying to be as much of a mac clone as the link you provided
[08:46] <Mia> berglh, I've tried it, it's nice overall but I don2t want to depend on alpha stuff
[08:46] <Mia> ubuntu is much more mature
[08:46] <Mia> also I'm not that much into oldskool apple aesthetics tbh
[08:46] <berglh> Mia: it is a ubuntu fork
[08:47] <berglh> fyi
[08:47] <Mia> yes but the theme is weird
[08:47] <Mia> and you can't even customize it any way
[08:47] <berglh> i'm not saying to use it
[08:48] <berglh> i'm am very content with ubuntu gnome
[08:48] <darkxst> mac os X copied GNOME ;)
[08:48] <berglh> :P
[08:49] <Mia> lol
[08:49] <Mia> how so
[08:50] <berglh> i actually run ubutnu gnome on a macbook, i tell you, that's asking for trouble running linux on mac hardware
[08:50] <Mia> Well gnome is not looking bad overall, but since it does not have a global menu, I'm forcing myself to go to unity
[08:51] <berglh> that is a pretty cool feature of unity
[08:51] <berglh> i mean, i like the alt search thing to get your menu opitons
[08:51] <Mia> berglh, oh is it so bad? I have a 2009 macbook, I'm right now uusing ubuntu on a virtualbox, but the actual reason was to decided what I'm going to use and then install it on that mc
[08:51] <Mia> is this a bad idea?
[08:51] <berglh> uhh, will probably be fine
[08:51] <berglh> i have a 2015 MBP
[08:52] <berglh> a bunch of stuff doesn't work
[08:52] <berglh> like backlight brightness control
[08:52] <berglh> doesn't wake from sleep
[08:52] <berglh> half of the 5 GHz wifi frequency band dosn't work
[08:53] <berglh> if i plug my thunderbolt display in after i've booted the machine it doesn't allow me to use the display aspect
[08:53] <berglh> i could go one
[08:53] <berglh> on*
[08:53] <berglh> they are all kernel bugs though
[08:53] <berglh> so nothing to do with ubuntu specifically
[08:53] <berglh> i would imagine a 2009 MB would be well supported
[08:54] <berglh> running it in virtual box is not testing the hardware support at all
[08:54] <berglh> however, it's fast, the display is nice, the hardware is great (when it's working)
[08:55] <berglh> i'd give it a go
[08:55] <berglh> but then i'm a sucker for punishment
[08:57] <darkxst> berglh, you want punishment try using a T400 these days!
[08:57] <darkxst> perfect linux support, but oh so slow
[08:58] <berglh> i'm a it professional darkxst, not a paleontologist..
[08:59] <berglh> i jest
[08:59] <berglh> that's the trade off
[08:59] <darkxst> I need to update, but most of my dev work is on the monster desktop
[09:00] <berglh> i had a bunch of functionality regression with linux 4.x
[09:00] <berglh> but i want the latest software features over better hardware support
[09:00] <darkxst> Macbook specific?
[09:00] <berglh> yep
[09:00] <berglh> there are kernel bugs up for everything
[09:01] <berglh> there are some patches i could try but i need to roll my own ubuntu kernel
[09:01] <darkxst> I don't think many kernel dev's use macbooks!
[09:01] <darkxst> berglh, that is not that hard!
[09:01] <berglh> yeah, i have cloned the ubuntu git repo
[09:02] <berglh> i think that was the waiting part
[09:02] <darkxst> kernel takes what 6mins to build
[09:02] <berglh> i just need to patch the driver files and compile / build the debs
[09:02] <darkxst> webkit takes about 3 hours!
[09:02] <berglh> eww
[09:03] <berglh> i haven't done it before, so learning curve
[09:03] <berglh> the just provided the diff, and the instructions for applying the patch with the patch tool thing didn't work. i can edit the files by hand
[09:04] <berglh> they didn't supply instructions, i'm just reading some other ubuntu post on rolling your kernel and applying patches
[09:04] <darkxst> I thought the kernel team had scripts to handle kernel patches?'
[09:04] <berglh> there are apt-get packages for it
[09:04] <berglh> i think the package is actually called "patch"
[09:05] <jjjasper> what's wrong with t400's?
[09:05] <jjjasper> assuming thinkpad
[09:05] <berglh> but the instruction i had didn't work for the diff
[09:05] <berglh> so i need to figure that bit out
[09:07] <darkxst> jjjasper, just starting to feel its age
[09:07] <jjjasper> ssd time :)
[09:07] <jjjasper> feels like new
[09:07] <jjjasper> ish
[09:08] <darkxst> jjjasper, lol, actually have a couple of them in post on the way here soon
[09:09] <jjjasper> greatly helps
[09:09] <darkxst> but I do need also something with more current tech, hybrid graphics, hidpi, touchscreen what not, its really hard trying to fix issues with those without any hardware
[09:09] <jjjasper> guessing so
[09:09] <jjjasper> disk io = worst offender on older machines
[09:09] <jjjasper> imho
[13:05] <Mia> hey all -- what does this setting do http://i.imgur.com/VReiswk.png
[13:19] <Mia> okay I now realized my compizconfig settings are not working
[13:19] <Mia> for some reason


[03:25] <Greylocks> Is there a ppa to get gnome 3.16?
[12:56] <ploctaux> Hello!
[12:56] <ploctaux> I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu-Gnome
[12:56] <ploctaux> the wiki says to go on irc so I'm here
[12:56] <ploctaux> I can do some packaging
[12:57] <ploctaux> I need to go
[12:57] <ploctaux> You can contact me @ploctaux on twitter
[12:58] <ploctaux><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:58] <ploctaux> gmail.com*
[12:59] <towo> So it appears keyboard shortcuts don't work on 3.16/staging?
[14:32] <captine> hi all.  so.  tried out ubuntu-gnome 15.04 from being a unity user.  liking it, but just wanting some help with the colour scheme.  the fonts are very difficult to read in the software centre.???  any suggestions?