[10:05] <lobstu> is someone willing to help me figure out why when i have firestarter firewall on, that NOTHING goes in our out of the box?
[10:05] <Syco54645> doctormo: yes i do, but an option to get it at the same time would be nice
[10:05] <gnomefreak> rpedro: gksudo
[10:05] <ic5> fearthemallama, use ' sudo passwd root' then enter a new root password
[10:05] <fearthellama> doctormo:  if my brother is the root user does that mean that i have to get him to install wine and then the whole pc will have it?
[10:05] <lobstu> cant surf from it, can't access it from my other pc
[10:05] <fearthellama> rpedro: ok
[10:05] <gnomefreak> ic5: no
[10:05] <Syco54645> Sanne: i am using cpan right now.  it cant find mysql_config which wasnt on my system
[10:05] <ic5> gnomefreak, why not
[10:05] <rpedro> fearthellama: yes, gksu is also good
[10:05] <lobstu> someone help please :(
[10:05] <lobstu> so frustrating
[10:05] <Syco54645> Sanne: i am running it again
[10:05] <gnomefreak> ic5: su was disabled for a reason it will screw your permissions all kinds of up
[10:06] <doctormo> fearthellama: yes, although if you are a sudoer then you can install applications by running things as root
[10:06] <saquib> >> any software to RECORD desktop activities??? not taking screenshots.. like generating small vdo clips???
[10:06] <Syco54645> Sanne: yeah i think the client devs did it for me
[10:06] <ic5> gnomefreak, it was enabled by default on my server install of ubuntu
[10:06] <doctormo> lobstu: please explain
[10:06] <gnomefreak> there is a reason ubuntu decided not to use it
[10:06] <Sanne> Syco54645, if something tells you the name of a missing file, you can look up which package it belongs to, also at packages.ubuntu.com in section "Search the contents of packages". This is quite nifty.
[10:06] <Sanne> Syco54645, ah, cool :)
[10:06] <gnomefreak> ic5: server install is different than default install
[10:07] <Syco54645> doctormo: well either do that, or name it relevant, not like the mysql devel headers
[10:07] <Syco54645> Sanne:
[10:07] <rpedro> fearthellama: if you're able to run synaptic with sudo, then you need to enter the repositories from this site to install wine : http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[10:07] <fearthellama> when it wants me to put in a password for sudo synaptic nothing happends when i type.
[10:07] <lobstu> doctormo : i have dapper installed, i installed firestarter, set some rules, and started the firewall. firewall is up, but nothing works .. can't ssh in to the box, can't access it's webserver, nor can i surf from the box out
[10:07] <ic5> gnomefreak, i have never had permission problems
[10:07] <doctormo> Syco54645: not that all packages are sane
[10:07] <Syco54645> Sanne: i was unaware of that feature... that would make life easier when compiling
[10:07] <fearthellama> rpedro did u see what i just said?
[10:07] <lobstu> even though firestarter has rules to allow ssh and web IN and allow all OUT
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ic5: that is you ive sat here the past 3 days fixing them
[10:07] <Sanne> Syco54645, yes, I use it all the time, it really helps.
[10:07] <doctormo> lobstu: have you checked connection from the box?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ic5: dont advise it
[10:07] <Syco54645> doctormo: yes, but having the bin packaged named foo and the devel package named bar-dev doesnt make sense
[10:08] <lobstu> doctormo : how do i do this?
[10:08] <Syco54645> yay
[10:08] <Syco54645> i just failed 17/19 test scripts
[10:08] <Syco54645> time to force
[10:08] <Syco54645> lol
[10:08] <doctormo> lobstu: ping www.google.co.uk
[10:08] <lobstu> immediately doesnt work
[10:08] <lobstu> no waiting time
[10:08] <ic5> gnomefreak, well i had no idea. I always thought they just did it for security reasons. Thanks for the info.
[10:08] <lobstu> unknown host
[10:09] <doctormo> lobstu: your computer isn't online
[10:09] <imonkey> just wondering how wil a upgrade from breezy>dapper go (when its official released)
[10:09] <lobstu> IT IS
[10:09] <lobstu> i stop the firewall
[10:09] <lobstu> and everything works
[10:09] <doctormo> lobstu: then your firewall is droping all packets, make sure you do not have a drop before an accept in the rule chain
[10:09] <gnomefreak> imonkey: what do you mena how long will it go?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> s/mena/mean
[10:10] <Syco54645> Sanne: well this package is stupid... it assumes that i have root@localhost for mysql without a pw.  doenst allow me to enter one either
[10:10] <Syco54645> Sanne: so i dont see any reason not to force this
[10:10] <imonkey> gnomefreak: i mean how.. what do i need to do to upgrade it will it be hard ect ect
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ompaul: do you need me to send them in txt form instead of binary?
[10:10] <unkmar> ic5: well, now I am getting somewhere.
[10:10] <lobstu> doctormo : no clue what that means .. i just installed ubuntu for the first time last week .. would assume that default install of dapper + firestarter would at least make sure that the firestarter rules are honoured
[10:10] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[10:10] <gnomefreak> !+upgrade
[10:10] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:10] <imonkey> thanks
[10:10] <fearthellama> rpedro: now when i type in sudo synaptic it doesnt do anything
[10:10] <lobstu> doctormo : how can i check what you've just spoken about?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:10] <Sanne> Syco54645, ehm... lost me there... sorry. The perl module?
[10:10] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yes please - I want to parse them into the other client :-)
[10:10] <doctormo> lobstu: they probably are honoured
[10:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, then they will be handy in 6.06 :)
[10:11] <fearthellama> gnomefreak how do i see if i have access to sudo?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul: let me see if i can if not ill paste them in email?
[10:11] <lobstu> ok, should i do an iptables -L INPUT or somehting?
[10:11] <Syco54645> Sanne: the perl module was one for mysql access in perl.  when using cpan it runs tests before it will install the module.  all of the tests tried to connect to root@localhost with no password
[10:11] <Zoroaster> I downloaded a webmin module to my desktop, it was .gz, extracted it, out came a .tar, extracted it, now I have a folder with stuff, what do I do to that folder of stuff, do I look for a specific .pl file to run that installs it?
[10:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, if you can that would be great
[10:11] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: sudo apt-get update than put in your password when asked
[10:11] <lobstu> doctormo : may i pm you ?
[10:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, don't sweat it if its too much grief
[10:12] <gnomefreak> ompaul: never
[10:12] <lobstu> Zoroaster : look for README
[10:12] <Sanne> Syco54645, oh, that really is stupid. Why assume that? So I agree :)
[10:12] <rpedro> fearthellama: try 'gksu synaptic' , it should ask you for your password
[10:12] <fearthellama> gnomefreak it doesnt ask for it
[10:12] <mirak> hi
[10:12] <mirak> where can we submit patches ?
[10:12] <doctormo> lobstu: sudo iptables --list
[10:12] <psYchotic> hello people, I hope one of you can help me out. I've been trying to compile banshee0.10.10 from source, and it works so far, except for the dbus part, and I'm thinking this might be caused by the fact that the standard dbus in the ubuntu repositories doesn't have mono bindings. Now, I wanted to compile a newer version of dbus, but I'm afraid I might break my system (because pretty important packages depend on dbus).
[10:12] <Zoroaster> lobstu, man, you guys always make me feel dumb
[10:12] <doctormo> lobstu: sure
[10:12] <Zoroaster> lobstu, thanks I will look now
[10:12] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: what does your prompt look like?
[10:12] <Syco54645> Sanne: it should have at the very least asked for a pw... if not a user and pw
[10:12] <psYchotic> what is it that I should do right now? Or doesn anyone know what can be causing the problems banshee has to connect to dbus?
[10:13] <unkmar> well, I have ssh,  That's a good start, Still not getting apache to go.  it responded with: ftp is already the newest version.
[10:13] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: a $ or a #?
[10:13] <Sanne> Syco54645, yes, definitely. Maybe tell the devs of this module about it?
[10:13] <fearthellama> gnomefreak i typed in gksu synaptic and it said i am not in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported
[10:13] <doctormo> mirak: what have you patched?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: gksudo synaptic
[10:13] <mirak> doctormo: libpam_mount
[10:13] <peetu> !ati
[10:13] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <mirak> doctormo: I added better FUSE support
[10:13] <Syco54645> Sanne: most perl people are elitist, so they will take it as criticism
[10:13] <doctormo> fearthellama: your brother needs to ass you to the sudos file
[10:14] <fearthellama> doctormo: ok
[10:14] <doctormo> mirak: ok you need to get in touch with the developers of that application
[10:14] <lobstu> doctormo : are you getting my pm ?
[10:14] <fearthellama> doctormo: thanks
[10:14] <Sanne> Syco54645, hmmm... use python? ;)
[10:14] <mirak> doctormo: it's like if they are dead
[10:14] <gnomefreak> add
[10:14] <fearthellama> so intill i am in the sudoers file i basically cant do anything?
[10:14] <mirak> doctormo: juste one mail this month on the mailing list
[10:14] <Jowi> i have a cups problem. i have an Epson Stylus DX4250 that is connected via USB and get detected properly. the driver it want to use is Stylus-800. printing testpage fail (nothing happens). it is supported with gimpprint, but I am not 100% sure that the suggested driver is the correct one. how can I verify this? I can't find the info I need at linuxprinting.org
[10:15] <foogle> hello all  I'm tryin to get my 3com NIC card  going what should I modprobe
[10:15] <doctormo> mirak: you might need to pounce the project, sorry
[10:15] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: so intill i am in the sudoers file i basically cant do anything?
[10:15] <mirak> fearthellama: you can su, but only if the root password is enabled
[10:15] <Syco54645> Sanne: possible.  i was messing with it the other day.  php is fine for web, i just use perl for system development.  like taking my wiki and moving it to a different database
[10:15] <mirak> doctormo: well I already submited them the patchc
[10:15] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: correct
[10:16] <fearthellama> mirak: my brother would never give me the password.
[10:16] <unkmar> I'm getting apache now.  sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:16] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:16] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: you can use it but you cant install anything
[10:16] <doctormo> mirak: I know the feeling
[10:16] <unkmar> fearthellama: gotta love them brothers
[10:16] <doctormo> fearthellama: you need to ask your brother
[10:16] <Sanne> Syco54645, well, I never used Perl, so I don't really have an opinion. But I fear we're getting a bit offtopic in this busy channel...
[10:16] <unkmar> apache is installed
[10:17] <Syco54645> Sanne: yes we are.  at any rate, thanks for the help
[10:17] <mirak> fearthellama: beat him
[10:17] <Sanne> Syco54645, you're welcome :)
[10:17] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: once i am a sudoer i will be able to install wine?
[10:17] <djrandom> evening all :)
[10:17] <fearthellama> mirak: he is 5 yrs older than me
[10:17] <fearthellama> mirak: i have no chance
[10:17] <McNutella> !apache
[10:17] <ubotu> [apache]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:17] <djrandom> are there any people with knowledge or openswan on ubuntu in the room?
[10:17] <djrandom> *of
[10:17] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: yes
[10:17] <McNutella> how come apache isnt on add appications ?
[10:17] <foogle> hello all  I'm tryin to get my 3com NIC card  going what should I modprobe
[10:18] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: and after wine is installed there are a lot more files that i am able to download and install?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ompaul: sent i pasted them in the body you might want to change the irssi/config a  bit what i did earlier didnt work :(
[10:18] <kbrooks> McNutella: because its a server
[10:18] <kbrooks> McNutella: not an application
[10:18] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: a sudoer can do anything
[10:18] <McNutella> kbrooks: and where would I install a server from ?
[10:18] <djrandom> anyone for ipsec?
[10:19] <ompaul> gnomefreak, no worries :-) thanks
[10:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:19] <kbrooks> McNutella: synaptic
[10:19] <mirak> fearthellama: you can reboot the computer then at grub prompt push edit and add -single option at the kernel command or start in safe mode. Then you can add yourself in the sudoers group
[10:19] <mirak> and reboot
[10:19] <McNutella> kbrooks: thank you
[10:19] <fearthellama> mirak: i got the reboot computer part and thats it
[10:19] <kbrooks> mirak: single, not -single
[10:20] <unkmar> I'm having problems installing ftp.
[10:20] <fearthellama> mirak: what grub prompt?
[10:20] <kismet> I get the following message in X.org on dapper flight any idea? "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual"
[10:20] <kbrooks> fearthellama: select the appropriate grub entry in the list
[10:20] <unkmar> I tried sudo apt-get install proftp
[10:20] <kbrooks> fearthellama: then type "e"
[10:20] <fearthellama> kbrooks: might i ask what a grub entry is?
[10:20] <unkmar> I tried sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:21] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: grub is the app that lets you choose what os to boot to if your dual booting
[10:21] <kbrooks> fearthellama: the grub bootloader offers you things to boot
[10:21] <GeistDerZeit> Hey guy, i'm have a doubt about an error message from the following command: sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc driveropts=burnfree -v -speed=2 -data /media/hda6/Downloads/Books.iso
[10:21] <fearthellama> kbrooks: does it always come up when restarting your computer?
[10:21] <kbrooks> fearthellama: yes
[10:21] <gnomefreak> unless he only has one os on pc
[10:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: um, that doesnt make sense
[10:22] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: what doesnt?
[10:22] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it comes up in that case too :-) unless the o/s is called win*
[10:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: a bootloader is neeeded
[10:22] <gnomefreak> grub wont give you anything to boot to if only one os is installed
[10:22] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: no its not
[10:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: but multiple kernels...
[10:22] <fearthellama> kbrooks: give me the steps again one by one after i restart my computer to ad me to the sudoers if you wouldnt mind
[10:22] <redguy> GeistDerZeit: will you share the error you get with us, or should we guess whaat the error is?
[10:23] <redguy> GeistDerZeit: if it's more than 1 line don't paste in here?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> and it boots just fine
[10:23] <redguy> gnomefreak: how come?
[10:23] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: how come?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> redguy: what do i need to choose?
[10:23] <McNutella> for a simple homebased website, would I be aswell using apache instead of V2?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> only 1 kernel only 1 os what is there to choose?
[10:23] <ompaul> redguy, cos it called spam if it is over two lines
[10:23] <jenda> Hmm.... I'm trying to ping a server that seems to be down. Is there a program that would keep pinging until it was up and notify me then? (it is nervy.pedf.cuni.cz)
[10:23] <njan> McNutella, there's no real advantage in going with v1 over v2..
[10:23] <GeistDerZeit> "cdrecord: Trying to use high speed medium on low speed writer." Is my CD writer too old? It's HP CD-Writer Plus 8200. I tried putting a -speed=1 parameter,, but i got the same error again.
[10:23] <redguy> gnomefreak: it is not a amtter of choosing, it's a matter of bootstrapping
[10:23] <fearthellama> kbrooks: can u give me the steps one by one to add me to the sudoers after i restart my pc?
[10:24] <kbrooks> fearthellama: no...
[10:24] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: some installers give you the option to install a bootloader
[10:24] <McNutella> njan: does V1 use less resource I assume?
[10:24] <fearthellama> kbrooks: plz!!!
[10:24] <njan> McNutella, not that I've noticed
[10:24] <McNutella> ok njan  thank you
[10:24] <njan> McNutella, if you want a really resource-efficient httpd, try thttpd or lighttpd
[10:24] <DarkJesus> Yo!
[10:24] <McNutella> njan: depends which is simpler to use for me
[10:24] <DarkJesus> I just installed ubuntu today...
[10:25] <GaiaX11> Which is better for a server: debian or ubuntu?
[10:25] <jjazz> McNutella: if you want a really small, simple website, try thttpd or perhaps bozohttpd
[10:25] <fearthellama> kbrooks: after i restart my computer i push edit and then i type single and then what?
[10:25] <DarkJesus> It went fine all the way up to the login
[10:25] <kbrooks> fearthellama: you're expecting me, and only me, to provide information which i cannot provide at the moment
[10:25] <redguy> GeistDerZeit: maybe the cd disk's lowest record speed you are trying to write to is higher that the highest record speed of your cd writer, but this is just a wild guess
[10:25] <DarkJesus> I logged in the GDM, the splash screen came up, then nothing happened at all
[10:25] <jjazz> fearthellama: google is your friend.
[10:25] <njan> McNutella, thttpd is very easy to configure
[10:25] <kbrooks> jjazz: dont suggest that
[10:25] <redguy> gnomefreak: what is loading your kernel then?
[10:25] <jjazz> fearthellama: or perhaps 'man visudo' is your friend.
[10:25] <DarkJesus> I'm able to do ctrl-alt-backspace, but when I try again, the same thing happens
[10:25] <GaiaX11> I know that debian is very good. But can ubuntu fit to be a server also?
[10:25] <njan> McNutella, it's also one of the better known and more widely used httpds, which means it's pretty secure and well understood in general.
[10:25] <jjazz> kbrooks: Why not?  It's pretty effective for such simple questions.
[10:26] <njan> GaiaX11, yes, it makes an excellent server.
[10:26] <DarkJesus> Erm...
[10:26] <Morbid_Angel> Interesting time problem when dual-booting.  When switching to my ubuntu installation my bios clock gets setback 4 hours.  Any idea how to tell Ubuntu to stop altering my bios clock?
[10:26] <kbrooks> jjazz: conuterproductive, and ....
[10:26] <K|NgGh0sT> I help installing a dvb card
[10:26] <njan> Morbid_Angel, do you have the timezone configured properly?
[10:26] <jjazz> GaiaX11: ubuntu has a server install option.  I've never used it, but perhaps you should ask the #ubuntu folks what that option contains.
[10:26] <kbrooks> jjazz: #ubuntu is here
[10:27] <DarkJesus> Is anyone gonna help me out?
[10:27] <Morbid_Angel> njan: Not sure how would I test the timezone config?
[10:27] <kbrooks> jjazz: the option installs only the base install
[10:27] <jjazz> kbrooks: Ah... wrong window.  I thought I was in #debian.  Doh!
[10:27] <GaiaX11> Where is it?
[10:27] <tuna__> hi, there i have ubuntu - breezy 5.10. However i cannot install any packages or upgrades because of "unmet dependicies"... what should i do ? please help ..
[10:27] <jjazz> GaiaX11: I dont recall, sorry.
[10:28] <Morbid_Angel> Actually yes the time zone is correctly set to America/New York
[10:28] <GaiaX11> Is it a gui in gnome?
[10:28] <njan> Morbid_Angel, is your windows timezone configured properly?
[10:28] <GeistDerZeit> I'd a similar problem before. Actually i couldn't write a single CD on my Ubuntu. I can't even erase a disk that i wrote as booted in Windows, instead of Linux. Kind of getting desesperate - it's the only reason i keep my dual boot.
[10:28] <Morbid_Angel> yes it's set to EST
[10:28] <redguy> GaiaX11: there is aslo a server install cd which doesn't contain X, GNOME and so on, but contains apache, mysql and so on
[10:28] <jjazz> GaiaX11: No, it's an option when you first install, so way before gnome is running.
[10:28] <redguy> !server
[10:28] <redguy> !tell GaiaX11 about server
[10:28] <fearthellama> mirak: can u separate these steps so i can beter understand them? fearthellama: you can reboot the computer then at grub prompt push edit and add -single option at the kernel command or start in safe mode. Then you can add yourself in the sudoers group
[10:28] <tuna__> alo ?
[10:29] <fearthellama> tuna__ hi
[10:29] <Morbid_Angel> Odd ...
[10:29] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone here ever gotten a DVB-s Card to work?
[10:29] <Morbid_Angel> I just hit "Synchronize Now" and it blanked the screen and set the ubuntu time correctly
[10:29] <tuna__> hi there, i have ubuntu - breezy 5.10. However i cannot install any packages or upgrades because of "unmet dependicies"... what should i do ? please help ..
[10:29] <fearthellama> mirak: r u there?
[10:29] <GeistDerZeit> That's the strange point - using the same Cd-writer device i can write/erase these disks...
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Morbid_Angel: are you using the option to sync the time with servers?
[10:29] <K|NgGh0sT> tuna__, apt-get -f install
[10:30] <mirak> fearthellama: not really
[10:30] <gnomefreak> Morbid_Angel: if so turn it off (im fairly sure thats what fixed it for me
[10:30] <tuna__> K|NgGh0sT, i tried but did not work
[10:30] <fearthellama> kbrooks: if i give u a set of instructions given to me in one sentance do you think you can break them up into multiple sentences?
[10:30] <mirak> fearthellama: anyway if you don't know linux well enough that's probably better you are not root :D
[10:30] <kbrooks> fearthellama: no...
[10:30] <Morbid_Angel> I'll give that a try.  The synch was marked to off
[10:30] <kbrooks> fearthellama: you're expecting me, and only me, to provide information which i cannot provide at the moment
[10:30] <jenda> Hmm.... I'm trying to ping a server that seems to be down. Is there a program that would keep pinging until it was up and notify me then?
[10:30] <redguy> ubotu doesn't write to the channel anymore?
[10:30] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redguy
[10:31] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: get your brother to give you the password
[10:31] <kbrooks> fearthellama: therefore, i will not answer at all
[10:31] <fearthellama> mirak: i want to be able to install programs.
[10:31] <redguy> :?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: its safer that way
[10:31] <tuna__> hi there, i have ubuntu - breezy 5.10. However i cannot install any packages or upgrades because of "unmet dependicies"... what should i do ? please help ..
[10:31] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: what you are tryign to do is work around it and its not a good idea
[10:31] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: why?
[10:31] <Morbid_Angel> Thanks for the advice.  Cheers!
[10:31] <gnomefreak> tuna__: what does sudo apt-get -f install   give you
[10:31] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: it is the password that he uses for everything.  if he gave it to me he would be giving me access to everything he has a password on
[10:31] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: we dont know him
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> hello people
[10:32] <mirak> fearthellama: you don't need it
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> i think i have removed the gaim icon system tray next to the clock
[10:32] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: if his bro didnt give him access there is normally a reason for it
[10:32] <mirak> fearthellama: do what I told
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> because now when i "close" the gaim messenger, it closes, and i doesn't appear in the system tray
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> !multiverse
[10:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:32] <fearthellama> mirak: after i select edit during the startup what do i do?
[10:32] <edgardpacheco> !gaim
[10:32] <ubotu> somebody said gaim was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[10:33] <K|NgGh0sT> argh, why does dvb hate me?
[10:33] <tuna__> gnomefreak , You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:
[10:33] <tuna__> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:33] <tuna__>   valknut: Depends: libdc0c2 (< 0.3.7-99) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <tuna__>            Depends: libdc0c2 (>= 0.3.7-0) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <tuna__>            Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <LadyNikon> umm
[10:33] <gnomefreak> tuna__: use pastebin
[10:33] <stjepan> how to install "Computer" menu in GNOME in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <kbrooks> stjepan: er?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> tuna__: what command did you type?
[10:33] <GeistDerZeit> By the way, it's a good idea to upgrade to Dapper? I'm behind a Breezy. It's just a question of changing repositories sources or there are some subtle caveat?
[10:33] <kbrooks> stjepan: what distro?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> tuna__: there should be no package name after install
[10:33] <mirak> fearthellama: you should just need to boot in safe mode, it will give you a command prompt. Then you can addyourself to sudoers but I don't remember how to do that. Ask someone here
[10:33] <stjepan> kbrooks, ubuntu
[10:34] <bimberi> ubotu tell GeistDerZeit about upgrade
[10:34] <tuna__> gnomefreak, apt-get install valknut
[10:34] <kbrooks> stjepan: i mean warty hoary breezy dapper
[10:34] <vocious> How can i install a game that comes in ".bin" ?
[10:34] <stjepan> kbrooks, SuSE has that menu in GNOME
[10:34] <tuna__> gnomefreak, apt-get -f install valknut
[10:34] <gnomefreak> tuna__: type sudo apt-get -f install
[10:34] <Sanne> GeistDerZeit, Dapper is still beta. I would wait, but it's up to you.
[10:34] <stjepan> kbrooks, dapper
[10:34] <gnomefreak> tuna__: just type that
[10:34] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: any ideas? can u read what mirak said?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> nothing else
[10:34] <ic5> vocious, usually you just execute the bin file
[10:35] <watson540> fearthellama<-- /etc/sudoers
[10:35] <gnomefreak> vocious: sh file.bin  might work
[10:35] <vocious> Thanks
[10:35] <watson540> fearthellama<-- edit that file and add yourself in, you will be able to use whats in there as an example
[10:35] <ic5> vocious, do a chmod +x <filename>.bin; Then ./<filename>.bin
[10:35] <mirak> fearthellama: but they are probably right, the risk is that you break things.
[10:35] <fearthellama> watspm: kk
[10:36] <mirak> I think Linux should handle things more like OS X, where you can install applications for users
[10:36] <fearthellama> mirak: what can i break?
[10:36] <babyboy> hi, does anyone kno what software to use for setting up proxy so i can connect to proxies so EVRYTHING under linux that uses internet goes through proxy?
[10:36] <kbrooks> watson540: please use ':'
[10:36] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: everything as a sudoer
[10:36] <mirak> some application should considered safe enough to be installed by a user
[10:36] <kbrooks> mirak: the appfolders way is flawed
[10:36] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone here ever gotten a DVB-s Card to work in linux... if so how do I install the drivers?
[10:36] <GeistDerZeit> Ok, i was curious just because of the hype about. I see a lot of people saying they are using Dapper as Desktops already. But thanks for the advice! I'm sticking to Breezy.
[10:36] <redguy> how do you make ubotu to change the factoid?  I mean, when you install an audio player there is not mysql that want to installs itself, so that's doable
[10:37] <Sanne> GeistDerZeit, wise decision :)
[10:37] <mirak> kbrooks: what is bad in your opinion ?
[10:37] <theSamo> how do you get mp3s to work on gstreamer10
[10:38] <babyboy> anyone know bout proxies ?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> redguy: it looks fine whats wrong with it?
[10:38] <fearthellama> watson540: it said access denied
[10:38] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: i gonna say that its best to get the password from brother
[10:39] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: could i do something so that i dont have to type in the password if he did somin?  cuz i know that my bro won't give me it
[10:39] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: no
[10:40] <watson540> fearthellama: of course, you need root access to edit the sudoers file.
[10:40] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: is it hard to change the password if i could convince my bro to do it?
[10:40] <vocious> Is there any way to change OpenGL settings ? The game i downloaded is lagging and getting stripes.
[10:40] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: if its his pc i dont advise it
[10:41] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: its not. its my families.  my moms in hawaii though so i am on my own untill then, but eventually if it can be done it will be
[10:41] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: thats the joy of parents
[10:41] <K|NgGh0sT> no one has ever installed a dvb card?
[10:43] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: is it hard to change the password to sudo?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: no if you know what your doing
[10:43] <unfo> fearthellama: what is your username?
[10:43] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: pretty sure he does
[10:43] <fearthellama> my user name is matthew
[10:43] <redguy> gnomefreak: so you don't know how to do it, do you?
[10:43] <fearthellama> unfo: y?
[10:44] <fearthellama> unfo: its matthew but y do u want to know?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> redguy: yes i can do it but they are getting strict on what is added and how long it is
[10:44] <mirak> fearthellama: do what I told
[10:44] <Jeff1983> will samba only allow me to access my linux machine from windows? or will it also let me access my windows machine from linux?
[10:44] <unfo> fearthellama: one way to do it is to go to the User Administration control panel and change the password for user: matthew
[10:44] <rest> hi, can i test that my "make" is working ?
[10:44] <unfo> fearthellama: or just start up Terminal and type passwd
[10:44] <unfo> rest: make --version
[10:45] <fearthellama> mirak: you left out the most important part,  how to add me to the sudoers
[10:45] <vocious> Have anyone here tried "PlaneShift" on Ubuntu ? And if you get very laggy screen and black stripes
[10:45] <mirak> fearthellama: I told you I don't know it
[10:45] <unfo> fearthellama: the primary user is always in sudoers.
[10:45] <fearthellama> unfo: that would work if i was the root user
[10:45] <rest> unfo, what is the best make version at the moment ?
[10:45] <fearthellama> unfo: im not
[10:45] <fearthellama> unfo: trying to get myself to be a sudoer
[10:45] <mirak> fearthellama: ok I remember
[10:45] <unfo> rest: GNU Make 3.0 or more is fine.
[10:45] <rest> unfo, i have some problems with compiling perl moduls and i thing its make
[10:45] <fearthellama> mirak: YAY.
[10:46] <unfo> rest: it is almost never ever make's fault.
[10:46] <mirak> fearthellama: you must add yourself to admin group. so you do  "adduser YOURLOGIN admin"
[10:46] <unfo> rest: what is the name of the perl module
[10:46] <rest> unfo, ok you think libaries or something like this ?
[10:46] <mirak> fearthellama: then you reboot
[10:46] <rest> unfo, Data::Validate
[10:46] <gnomefreak> mirak: doesnt he need sudo for that?
[10:46] <Jeff1983> will samba only allow me to access my linux machine from windows? or will it also let me access my windows machine from linux?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> kind of ironic though
[10:46] <unfo> rest: try sudo apt-get install libdata-validate-perl
[10:47] <unfo> Jeff1983: both, if set up correctly.
[10:47] <fearthellama> mirak: ill do that once my bro forgets to log himself off the pc. im not the root user
[10:47] <mirak> gnomefreak: not if he reboot in single user mode
[10:47] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[10:47] <mirak> fearthellama: I told you you just need to reboot in safe mode
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > humz
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > configure: error: You are missing security/pam_modules.h
[10:47] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: your still gonna need the password to use sudo
[10:47] <fearthellama> mirak: even if it said im not added?
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > in what package can I find that header file?
[10:47] <unfo> [Wiebel] : search the error on google.
[10:48] <mirak> fearthellama: do what I told damnit !
[10:48] <unfo> [Wiebel] : or use apt-file
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > oeh
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > apt-file sounds nice
[10:48] <fearthellama> mirak: even if i do wich i will i wont have the password to sudo
[10:48] <unfo> [Wiebel] : sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search pam_modules.h
[10:48] <rest> unfo, hmm not found the package, but strange with apt-get i can install but with make i have problems
[10:48] <gnomefreak> mirak: i wouldnt bother he screws something up (its more trouble than its worth if you ask me)
[10:48] <mirak> fearthellama: it will your password dummy
[10:48] <theSamo> do you guys have MP3s playing on gstreamer 10?
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > unfo: allready done that :)
[10:49] <[Wiebel] > unfo: no hit though
[10:49] <theSamo> i can't get them to do so
[10:49] <fearthellama> mirak: oh lol
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell theSamo about mp3
[10:49] <mirak> fearthellama: it will be your password dummy
[10:49] <unfo> [Wiebel] : thats very strange that no hits.
[10:49] <fearthellama> i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:50] <fearthellama> i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:50] <[Wiebel] > unfo: google "ubuntu pam_modules.h
[10:50] <[Wiebel] > "
[10:50] <[Wiebel] > gives me nothing useful as wel
[10:50] <rest> unfo, i never had problems with cpan + perl and its a fresh install , strange
[10:50] <hurax> fearthellama: sudo
[10:50] <mirak> gnomefreak: well, I give him the possiblity just because I think it's dumb that a user can't install a simple text editor
[10:50] <unfo> [Wiebel] : no, google configure security/pam_modules.h
[10:51] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[10:51] <[Wiebel] > unfo: yeah but i need the ubuntu package with that file :)
[10:51] <fearthellama> hurax: thankyou for trying to help but u havent been listening into the convo so u wouldnt no i dont have access to sudo
[10:51] <pmk> why i cant listen to mp3 files?
[10:51] <K|NgGh0sT> Anyone here ever gotten a DVB-s Card to work in linux... if so how do I install the drivers?
[10:51] <Gibran> Hello, I have two machines running Ubuntu. One has internet access, the other does not. Is there anyway I can get Synaptic to download programs and all the dependices onto a disc that I can use as a repository for my non-internet machine?
[10:51] <fearthellama> mirak: i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:51] <hurax> fearthellama: then you need a user who has sudo rights
[10:52] <Spec> Gibran: why not give the second computer internet connectivity?
[10:52] <fearthellama> hurax: i know that. what i am trying to do is find a way to give myself admin and sudo without being the root user. mirak thinks he has a way
[10:52] <octan> is there a way i can turn on|off power save for disks with acpi?
[10:52] <Gibran> Spec: Impossible
[10:52] <Spec> Gibran: how?
[10:52] <unfo> [Wiebel] : ok, did you try apt-file?
[10:52] <fearthellama> mirak: i typed "adduser matthew admin" and it said "adduser:  Only root may add a user or group to the system
[10:52] <Spec> no network card?
[10:52] <[Wiebel] > unfo: uhuh
[10:52] <Gibran> Spec: Cannot physically run a wire to it
[10:53] <babyboy> hi, does anyone kno what software to use for setting up proxy so i can connect to proxies so EVRYTHING under linux that uses internet goes through proxy?
[10:53] <Spec> ah
[10:53] <Spec> well, yes, there is a way...
[10:53] <Spec> i dont' know it though, :-/
[10:53] <fearthellama> mirak: so do i still restart while in safe mode? will it do anything?
[10:53] <hurax> fearthellama: if you have physical access and no bios password set you can boot from cd
[10:53] <Spec> I think you just need the directory structure of an apt repository on a cdrom
[10:53] <unfo> rest: you dont have to use make. install dh-make-perl then go to the directory and type dh-make-perl
[10:53] <fearthellama> hurax: by that you mean...
[10:53] <Spec> err, nix that, there's more than just that
[10:53] <unfo> [Wiebel] : also, try packages.ubuntu.com there should be a Search Inside Contents of Packages tool.
[10:54] <fearthellama> hurax: the simplest of terms for a dude that doesnt no much about pcs and linux
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > let's see
[10:54] <Abountu> how can I have read/write access to NTFS discs to everyone (or this user) at the moment only root can access it, I do $sudo nautilus to be able to browse ntfs drives
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > unfo: bingo
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > :P
[10:54] <kbrooks> fearthellama: seriously, tell us what you REALLYQ want to do, and why you're poring over that
[10:54] <unfo> [Wiebel] : the website search did it?
[10:54] <hurax> if you can boot a live system from cd you have root rights
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > unfo: jup
[10:55] <unfo> [Wiebel] : cool.
[10:55] <vocious> Anyone here with PlaneShift Game installed ?
[10:55] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: if i typed in the rong thing while having access to sudo could i mess up my entire pc?
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > unfo: but why didn't apt-file
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > I wonder
[10:55] <unfo> vocious: is it a linux game?
[10:55] <unfo> [Wiebel] : if you tell me the error message i can tell you why.
[10:55] <fearthellama> kbrooks: i want to install programs like steam and aim and stuff like that
[10:55] <vocious> Linux, windows(?), mac
[10:55] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: yes
[10:55] <hurax> fearthellama: yes, you can
[10:55] <mirak> Abountu: ntfs is bad, prefer samba
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > unfo: I got no error
[10:55] <haary> /list
[10:55] <Gibran> Any ideas Spec?
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > joris@lateralus:~$ apt-file search pam_modules.h
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > joris@lateralus:~$
[10:56] <Abountu> mirak: I don't understand what you mean, ... ntfs is bad for none roots?
[10:56] <MetaMorfoziS> basszameg a kurva let
[10:56] <fearthellama> hurax: if i type in an unknown command while having access to sudo would anything happen?
[10:56] <pmk> why i cant listen to mp3 files?
[10:56] <pmk> how can i watch wmv files on my ubuntu?
[10:56] <[Wiebel] > hmmz, yet another file which doesnt show op
[10:56] <edgardpacheco> pmk: you can install the w32 codecs
[10:56] <[Wiebel] > not on the sit ethis time as wel
[10:56] <Spec> Gibran: yeap, hold on
[10:56] <Gibran> :)
[10:56] <fearthellama> hurax: and as for the cd i think my bro borrowed it from someone
[10:57] <K|NgGh0sT> Wondering if someone could help me install a DVB-S Card?
[10:57] <mirak> Abountu: sorry I though you said NFS
[10:57] <unfo> [Wiebel] : what command line did you type into apt-file?
[10:57] <unfo> [Wiebel] : why do you need one?
[10:57] <hurax> fearthellama: depends, "sudo asdqwejk" would do nothing, "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda" would be very bad...
[10:57] <Abountu> mirak: ah ok! no prob,
[10:57] <kbrooks> fearthellama: why are you worried about it?
[10:57] <[Wiebel] > unfo: I have only my wpa keys in the keyring
[10:57] <unfo> [Wiebel] : so?
[10:57] <hurax> but if your brother installed it you should probably go and ask him
[10:57] <redguy> gnomefreak: ok, I have been speccifically asked by the #ubuntu-server guys not to point people directly to #ubuntu-server but the ubuntu server faq
[10:57] <[Wiebel] > And I would like to login and see it working
[10:57] <unfo> i agree with hurac
[10:57] <[Wiebel] > without entering another password
[10:57] <fearthellama> kbrooks: worried about what? typing a wrong command? its not just my pc.
[10:58] <unfo> *hurax
[10:58] <mirak> fearthellama: what are you waiting for ?
[10:58] <mirak> fearthellama: just do it
[10:58] <kbrooks> fearthellama: worried about installing apps
[10:58] <unfo> [Wiebel] : oh. (shrug)
[10:58] <[Wiebel] > unfo: what? :)
[10:58] <kbrooks> mirak: he is a complete newbie to linux
[10:58] <fearthellama> kbrooks: dont u want to be able to install things on ur pc?
[10:58] <unfo> [Wiebel] : i dont use gnome. i am on debian and i prefer kde.
[10:58] <kbrooks> fearthellama: ITS NOT YOUR PC
[10:58] <[Wiebel] > unfo: hehe ok :P
[10:58] <unfo> :)
[10:59] <fearthellama> kbrooks: i know but if i check what i write then it should be ok
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > I was a KDE guy
[10:59] <redguy> gnomefreak: that's why I want to change the server factoid
[10:59] <mirak> kbrooks: lol, I give him the root acces and it doesn't even know how to do it
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > but I got enough of the looks of it :P
[10:59] <unfo> [Wiebel] : why did you break?
[10:59] <Spec> Gibran: nope :-/
[10:59] <mirak> kbrooks: there is not that much risk in fact
[10:59] <edgardpacheco> guys, which is better, gaim or amsn?
[10:59] <fearthellama> kbrooks: ITS NOT YOURS EITHER!  GIVE ME A WARNING, DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell redguy about you
[10:59] <Spec> Gibran: google wasn't very helpful
[10:59] <mirak> kbrooks: what's problem with OS X app folder ?
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > unfo: I know ;)
[10:59] <Gibran> That was my first port of call
[10:59] <unfo> Spec: what did you type into google?
[10:59] <[Wiebel] > i ran it for a few years :P
[10:59] <unfo> mirak: it lacks apt-get. :)
[10:59] <pmk> edgardpacheco: how is the name of this package?
[10:59] <cute_bettong> um are there playstation and ps2 emulators for ubuntu? or linux?
[11:00] <fearthellama> mirak: even if it said my user wasnt added should i still restart?
[11:00] <fundacite6> fgdfgd
[11:00] <unfo> cute_bettong: pcsx2 is for ps2, its for linux but its extremely slow on my computer.
[11:00] <unfo> cute_bettong: pcsx is one of the many psx ones
[11:00] <cute_bettong> unfo, what are your box specs?
[11:00] <unfo> cute_bettong: celeron 2.4 laptop, 384 ram, horrible built-in video
[11:01] <unfo> cute_bettong: ask in #pcsx2, they all use it
[11:01] <Spec> unfo: several variations of "make" + "apt" + "cdrom" + "repository"
[11:01] <pmk> how can i watch wmv files on my ubuntu?
[11:01] <cute_bettong> unfo, could that be why? or is the emulator its self slow?
[11:01] <Gibran> unfo: I typed in "how to make repository synaptic"
[11:01] <C|int> none of that is offtopic?
[11:01] <unfo> Gibran: what???
[11:01] <unfo> cute_bettong: i think the emulator is a bit slow.
[11:01] <Spec> unfo: he's looking how to set up an apt-repository on a cd-rom
[11:01] <cute_bettong> no becasue that has to do with ubuntu ^_^
[11:02] <jjazz> pmk: Install the w32codecs package.  It's not in the regular repos.  You can google for it.  IIRC, it's in seveas's repo.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: ?
[11:02] <unfo> Gibran: you need apt-zip
[11:02] <unfo> Gibran: it lets you copy any .deb files to a cdrom.
[11:03] <Gibran> That sounds like my problem "Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media."
[11:03] <Gibran> Thank you very much
[11:03] <unfo> Gibran: or consider the ubuntu dvd
[11:03] <unfo> Gibran: its a big download but much easier to use.
[11:04] <Gibran> It is fairly obscure programs I want that are not on the offical repository
[11:04] <Gibran> Thank you
[11:04] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: ?
[11:04] <crazy_penguin> hi
[11:04] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: why was fearthellama +q'd ?
[11:05] <Sceema> hey lover boy
[11:05] <crazy_penguin> can i use more then one server line in ntp.conf?
[11:05] <lover-boy> hey sceema
[11:05] <unfo> rest: it worked?
[11:05] <unfo> crazy_penguin: try it and see.
[11:05] <Hentai_Jeff> so there are ops here :D
[11:05] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: because i set him that way
[11:05] <thefish> crazy_penguin: yeap
[11:05] <crazy_penguin> thx
[11:05] <rest> unfo, no makes error
[11:05] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: be more specific. why died you silence fearthellama
[11:05] <kbrooks> did*
[11:05] <unfo> rest: did you install dh-make-perl
[11:05] <rest> unfo, i installed it know
[11:06] <fearthellama> kbrooks: can u hear me? i am silenced!!!???
[11:06] <unfo> rest: how?
[11:06] <crazy_penguin> one more question: and they will be ciontacted in the order in what i write it in the ntp.conf?
[11:06] <rest> unfo, apt-get
[11:06] <crazy_penguin> err cointacted/contacted
[11:06] <unfo> fearthellama: i hear you fine, youre not silenced.
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ompaul: what way did you do that?
[11:06] <unfo> rest: how? multiverse?
[11:06] <fearthellama> unfo: thats what kbrooks said
[11:06] <rest> i think yes
[11:06] <unfo> rest: good.
[11:07] <BIzz> how can i add a shorcut to my desktop in XFCE?
[11:07] <unfo> BIzz: try drag and drop
[11:07] <PreZWork> whats the channel for testing dapper drake again?
[11:07] <unfo> BIzz: you dont like kde?
[11:07] <unfo> PreZWork: #ubuntu+1
[11:07] <UltraMagnus> hi, does anyone know how to get ebays HTML editor to work in firefox in ubuntu?
[11:07] <Sceema> yo yo ppl of the world
[11:07] <BIzz> not that i dont like it its jus that its too bloated for my 700mhz laptop :-p
[11:07] <rest> unfo, can i replace maybe the "make" things ?
[11:07] <lover-boy> hows every1 here?
[11:07] <unfo> UltraMagnus: ask in #firefox
[11:08] <unfo> rest: what???
[11:08] <UltraMagnus> unfo: thanks
[11:08] <rest> unfo, i mean refreshing or something :)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: read your server tab
[11:08] <peetu> mm
[11:08] <fearthellama> gnomefreak:  huh?
[11:08] <Sceema> testing
[11:08] <peetu> How can i get scandinavian characters work ?
[11:08] <unfo> rest: a newer version of make will DEFINITELY NOT fix the problem.
[11:08] <Abountu> how can I mount a drive using the mount command, and specifying that I need read write access to everyone!
[11:08] <unfo> rest: make errors really are errors in some other program.
[11:08] <rest> unfo, ok
[11:08] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: read your server tab in the chat if on xchat it should say freenode
[11:09] <Sceema> fuck you
[11:09] <BIzz> wow
[11:09] <BIzz> potty mouth!
[11:09] <lover-boy> what was all that about?
[11:09] <fearthellama> gnomefreak i dont see it say freenod anywhere on my screen
[11:09] <gnomefreak> damn your fast ;)
[11:09] <fearthellama> ompaul: y did u kick him?
[11:09] <rest> unfo, unhappy, but what can i do any idea ?
[11:09] <peetu> How can i get scandinavian characters work ?
[11:09] <ompaul> yes - for language
[11:09] <gnomefreak> fearthellama: he banned him
[11:09] <Linoob>
[11:10] <macsim> hi
[11:10] <gnomefreak> Linoob: english chars only
[11:10] <fearthellama> gnomefreak: banned permanently? or just temporarily?
[11:10] <rest> unfo, the error of ->  dh-make-perl --install : Cannot create deb package
[11:10] <macsim> Where can I found the config from linux-image ?
[11:10] <unfo> rest: i do not use dh-make-perl. but you said you fixed the problem already, right?
[11:10] <rest> unfo, no
[11:11] <unfo> macsim: use the default. it may be in /proc/config.gz
[11:11] <mwe> macsim: /boot I think
[11:11] <ompaul> Linoob, #ubuntu-cn
[11:11] <rest> unfo, i cant install any pms from hand
[11:11] <macsim> unen: mwe ok I look
[11:11] <PwcrLinux-Away> ..
[11:11] <mwe> unfo: I think the default kernel doesn't have /proc/config.gz support
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ummmmm
[11:12] <gnomefreak> i didnt do that lol
[11:12] <macsim> it's in /boot ;) great thanks
[11:12] <mwe> yw
[11:12] <noob> gnomefreak: was he banned permanantly or just temporarily?
[11:12] <macsim> a simple make-kpkg binary will give me all the needed file ?
[11:12] <unfo> macsim: why a new kernel??
[11:12] <macsim> unfo: for add vserver
[11:13] <noob> gnomefreak: mind answering me?
[11:13] <peetu> How can i get scandinavian characters work ?
[11:13] <macsim> unfo: but I wan a proper kernel (the same as linux-image + vserver patch)
[11:13] <unfo> macsim: what is vserver?
[11:13] <macsim> unfo: look on wikipedia ;)
[11:13] <unfo> rest: pms?
[11:13] <unfo> macsim: no
[11:13] <rest> unfo, no it worked, very strange (normal "make")
[11:14] <unfo> :)
[11:14] <rest> unfo, perl moduls
[11:14] <noob> can anyone hear me or is gnomefreak just ignoring me?
[11:14] <unfo> rest: good. so then its not important.
[11:14] <unfo> noob: he may be ignoring you for a reason.
[11:14] <unfo> or just busy.
[11:14] <mwe> peetu: you need to set XkbLayout correctly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for one thing
[11:14] <redguy> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:14] <peetu> mm
[11:14] <rest> unfo, hmm dont like things like this, the perl script say not found hehe
[11:14] <noob> ya i guess. this sucks not having access to sudo.
[11:14] <redguy> noob: be patient
[11:15] <unfo> rest: i dont understand
[11:15] <noob> redguy: i dont think i need help anymore.  just gotta talk to my bro.
[11:15] <redguy> noob: what is your problem again?
[11:15] <holycow> what is the command for getting the size of a directory via cli?
[11:15] <ompaul> holycow, du -h
[11:15] <gnomefreak> redguy: hes trying to bypass not having sudo
[11:15] <holycow> thx ompaul
[11:16] <ompaul> who is?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> his bro didnt give him the password and i think if anyone helps him they need to do it else where
[11:16] <noob> redguy:  some dude thought he had a way to give me access to sudo without the root user ading me.
[11:16] <rest> unfo, forget it not important :)
[11:17] <redguy> noob: by default, users with admin group membership have access to sudo
[11:17] <redguy> noob: but your problem seems to be that you don't have the password
[11:17] <ompaul> noob, okay that question is a cracking question, so if you ask it again I will be forced to kick you
[11:17] <redguy> noob: is taht right?
[11:17] <noob> ompaul: i wont ask again
[11:18] <unfo> rest: did the perl module install ok?
[11:18] <noob> redguy: ya i guess so
[11:18] <rest> unfo, no :(
[11:18] <noob> ompaul: i do have a q though. if someone is kicked are they banned forever or just temporarily?
[11:19] <unfo> rest: sudo apt-get install libdata-validate-perl
[11:19] <unfo> rest: does that work?
[11:19] <ompaul> noob, that depends
[11:19] <noob> ompaul, on what?
[11:19] <ompaul> noob, and no I am not taking out the slide rule and writing a table
[11:19] <gnomefreak> lol /kick ompaul before he can answer
[11:19] <rest> unfo, not found the package, a other perl lib worked with apt-get
[11:19] <unfo> rest: i am glad.
[11:20] <rest> unfo, hmm
[11:20] <noob> ompaul:  there is a list of offenses and how long kicked for?
[11:20] <unfo> rest: ?
[11:20] <unfo> noob: no. but do not do them. its annoying to try to become unbanned.
[11:20] <rest> unfo, dont know what do to, i think i go to sleep :)
[11:21] <noob> unfo: dont worry.  i wont. when ur a nooby u need to have access to help. if i get banned i am screwed.
[11:21] <Deramin> in Ajunta, is there a way to set a highlighting style as default? AKA, assume I always want to use this (and if there's a better place to ask this question, please tell me)
[11:22] <unfo> rest: good idea. then ask in the forums in the morning.
[11:22] <Spec> sleep: better idea
[11:22] <rest> yes its the plan ;)
[11:22] <noob> alrighty then. im out.
[11:22] <rest> unfo, thank you, bye
[11:22] <rest> bye
[11:23] <express> how do I get GCC installed on my 5.10 breezy machine?
[11:23] <mwe> express: suso apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <gnomefreak> express: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <express> thanks
[11:23] <Samuli^> express,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <unfo> express: stop
[11:23] <mwe> express: yeah sudo, not suso :)
[11:23] <unfo> express: why do you need gcc?????
[11:23] <mwe> unfo: to compile stuff?
[11:23] <express> to compile things?
[11:23] <Anti`Barca> i have 1 problem ... my  gam_Server is ocuped 300 MB ram
[11:23] <gnomefreak> unfo: to compile things
[11:23] <mwe> heh
[11:23] <Anti`Barca> this is dont normal  !!
[11:24] <Anti`Barca> :((
[11:24] <Samuli^> unfo, to compile stuff.
[11:24] <unfo> express: what do you need to compile that isnt in universe or multiverse???
[11:24] <gnomefreak> unfo: his own program?
[11:24] <express> my own programs?
[11:24] <express> gnomefreak has the idea :D
[11:24] <Samuli^> his own program.
[11:25] <K|NgGh0sT> Wondering if someone could help me install a DVB-S Card?
[11:25] <express> but just for future information, how do I add the universe repository?
[11:25] <unfo> K|NgGh0sT: i am in canada, dvb-s is killed by Digital Restrictions Management here in North America, so I personally cant.
[11:25] <unfo> express: add it now, see if your program is in it.
[11:25] <unfo> express: do you know vim?
[11:25] <express> there's no way my program would be in it, lol.
[11:25] <K|NgGh0sT> unfo, uh no its not
[11:26] <express> i know nano
[11:26] <unfo> express: what program?
[11:26] <express> the programs I write?
[11:26] <Flannel> unfo: hobby programs I suspect.
[11:26] <K|NgGh0sT> unfo, Free to Air is not restricted by any orginization within North America
[11:26] <express> I suppose.
[11:26] <unfo> express: ah. :) anyway edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the 2 pound symbols mentioned. btw you'll need libc6-dev.
[11:26] <express> thanks
[11:27] <Rhine> How do i transfer music from my ipod to my harddrive?
[11:27] <express> libc6-dev was installed with build-essentials i believe
[11:27] <unfo> K|NgGh0sT: i mean real tv, not FTA :)
[11:27] <K|NgGh0sT> Alas, I am refering to FTA, which still requires a DVB card ;)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> express: it was
[11:27] <Deramin> in Anjuta, is there a way to set a highlighting style as default? AKA, assume I always want to use this (and if there's a better place to ask this question, please tell me)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> express: maybe not come to think of it
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Deramin: it should be automatic
[11:28] <express> gnomefreak, it was
[11:28] <express> just checked
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Deramin: if not look in the menu for configure anjuta or prefferences
[11:28] <swadhin> hi
[11:28] <Deramin> gnomefreak: it's not automaticing very well and it's not in preferences, either
[11:28] <express> hey; there was only one line I had to uncomment?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Deramin: give me a sec
[11:29] <swadhin> i have some queries related to tightVNC
[11:29] <swadhin> vncsercer
[11:29] <express> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[11:29] <express> shouldn't there be a line with just deb?
[11:29] <swadhin> could anyone help me out
[11:30] <unfo> swadhin: dont ask to ask. just ask.
[11:30] <unfo> :)
[11:30] <Rhine> How do i transfer my music from my ipod to my harddrive? Anyone know
[11:30] <unfo> express: you must uncomment two lines.
[11:30] <K|NgGh0sT> unfo, so in that case could you help me get the card installed?
[11:30] <unfo> Rhine: apple will hate you if you do :)
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Deramin: go to settings>prefferences ont he editor tab look at top right hand corner it will say disable highlighting make sure its not checked
[11:30] <unfo> K|NgGh0sT: sorry, try #hardware or Google.
[11:30] <Rhine> unfo, ive done it before in windows :P
[11:31] <express> unfo, there was only one line there =/
[11:31] <K|NgGh0sT> spent the last three days on google :(
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Deramin: after that opena  new file and type #hi its me and it should show up blue or red
[11:31] <Deramin> gnomefreak: it's not
[11:31] <eugman> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:31] <eugman> +p any ideas?
[11:31] <unfo> express: so add an identical deb line.
[11:31] <Zeus`> automatix replaced my repositioris list, I restarted, and I now I had to install 144 updates?
[11:31] <Zeus`> what the hell
[11:32] <unfo> eugman: what software are you trying to run?
[11:32] <unfo> !automatix
[11:32] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[11:32] <svdp12> I need help installing Cedega. I just downloaded it and went throught he installation instructions on the website, but it says it can't install because I need superuser privlages
[11:32] <Zeus`> I want to stream line my system!
[11:32] <Deramin> gnomefreak: I can force highlighting just fine, but the default is currently set to automatic, and I want it default to C++
[11:32] <eugman> A game called N.
[11:32] <unfo> Rhine: how?
[11:32] <unfo> eugman: website?
[11:32] <Rhine> I used Winamp's plugin ml_ipod
[11:33] <unfo> express: is gcc compiling your thing ok?
[11:33] <Zeus`> unfo: Ive already installed the 144 updates
[11:33] <unfo> Zeus`: sorry :(
[11:34] <eugman> Hmmmm, It seems I need to do some looking to find the exact spot where I got the download.
[11:34] <Zeus`> Christ... how do I maka sure whats on here is supposed to be on here?
[11:35] <unfo> Zeus`: you can't, you used automatix. :(
[11:35] <sybariten> trying to make a mutt package with ssl support here ...   so i am dwelving into the dpkg area. dpkg-buildpackage complained about unmet dependencies... or unmet build dependencies to be exact. Any way i can make it fetch what it needs ?
[11:35] <Zeus`> CAn i get rid of everything on ubunut
[11:35] <unfo> sybariten: sudo apt-get build-dep mutt
[11:35] <Zeus`> without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[11:36] <unfo> Zeus`: check the automatix faq maybe
[11:36] <kbrooks> Zeus`: not really
[11:36] <eugman> http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/downloads.html
[11:36] <zack> im trying to install wine on ubuntu for my 64bit pc, i have downloaded the files but the command "sudo apt-get --build source wine" gives me a complier error. any suggestions?
[11:36] <sybariten> unfo: what does that do? i already got the source with apt-get source mutt ... and i have added some option in the debian/rules file
[11:36] <Zeus`> where is the repositories file?
[11:36] <unfo> sybariten: type this: sudo apt-get build-dep mutt
[11:37] <PPC_xubuntu> Errrrr... could anyone give me a hand in getting the G3-iMac i just threw Xubuntu-(dapper) to dual boot OS9? On x86 i'd know , but /this/ fdsik -l output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14189 is a bit, errrr, confusing. yaboot, anyone?
[11:37] <sybariten> ah, let me guess, it will only show what i will need to build it, or something like this
[11:37] <sybariten> s/this/that
[11:37] <Flannel> Zeus`: if you check the wiki, you can get a virgin sources.list
[11:37] <gnomefreak> sybariten: it will install everything you need to build it
[11:37] <gnomefreak> almost everything
[11:37] <sybariten> gnomefreak: oh..?!
[11:38] <unfo> who was looking for ipod help again?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> sybariten: sudo apt-get build-dep <package> installs the dependencies to build the app
[11:38] <sybariten> holy crap! after installing, 46 megs will be used
[11:38] <Knowledge_> when's the next version comming out?...august right?
[11:38] <Zeus`> how do I check how much space is left on my ubuntu partition?
[11:38] <sybariten> well well, a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do
[11:38] <Spec> Zeus`: df -h
[11:38] <gnomefreak> sybariten: you still need build-essential if you use checkinstall you will need that too
[11:38] <Flannel> Knowledge_: June 1
[11:38] <unfo> oh, it was rhine. he left
[11:38] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ok, you learn stuff about apt every day almost
[11:38] <unfo> Zeus`: df -h /
[11:39] <gnomefreak> sybariten: why dont you just install mutt?
[11:39] <jhenn> would ubuntu run good on a 366mhz?
[11:39] <Knowledge_> Flannel: woah, I was wayy off.
[11:39] <Knowledge_> Flannel: Thank you.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: 2weeks
[11:39] <sybariten> gnomefreak: isnt build-essential the general gcc compilers and such ?
[11:39] <sybariten> gnomefreak: well, i did from a package, turns out that version is witout ssl support. which is odd.
[11:39] <zack> ya, i had to look up the password thing becuase that was giving me trouble
[11:39] <zack> oops
[11:39] <gnomefreak> build-essential is a bunch of things/tools needed to build compile apps
[11:40] <zack> im trying to install wine on ubuntu for my 64bit pc, i have downloaded the files but the command "sudo apt-get --build source wine" gives me a complier error. any suggestions?
[11:40] <unfo> jhenn: use fvwm2
[11:40] <mirak> unfo: there is apt-get on os x with fink. There is even gentoo's emerge
[11:40] <sybariten> gnomefreak: yeah, and i should already have those i believe ... i have already "made" som tools
[11:40] <Jowi> where can i change the "locale" settings? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" set /etc/environment correctly, but when typing "locale" command, LANG is empty and all the LC_... say "POSIX" instead of "en_GB.UTF-8"
[11:40] <Knowledge_> I wonder if the Shipit CDs will be available right away
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: not yet
[11:40] <unfo> mirak: fink isnt that good. yes, darwinports is better.
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: by the end of the month (should)
[11:40] <mirak> unfo: fink is apt-get
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Knowledge_: but they wont send them until after release
[11:41] <unfo> i heard fink is not perfect.
[11:41] <sybariten> the new packages that will be installed for me are among others the following: debconf-utils debhelper gettext groff html2text intltool-debian libdb4.3-dev libgcj-common libgcj6
[11:41] <Knowledge_> gnomefreak: I see, thanks for the info.
[11:41] <unfo> sybariten: ok
[11:41] <Knowledge_> I really need to get back into linux.
[11:41] <Knowledge_> I'm sick of using Windows and OSx
[11:41] <mirak> unfo: I didn't tried it much. Just a bit. They probably are right
[11:41] <unfo> Knowledge_: so buy a Mac. :)
[11:41] <unfo> Knowledge_: then install Ubuntu.
[11:41] <sybariten> please dont
[11:42] <sybariten> thats what i have done
[11:42] <unfo> sybariten: and?
[11:42] <Sanne> zack, without the compile error it is very hard to guess what could be wrong... you can paste the error to paste.ubuntu-nl.org.
[11:42] <sybariten> unfo: and, macs suck.
[11:42] <sybariten> reeeaaaal bad.
[11:42] <Knowledge_> unfo: I'm currently running OSx on my Dell. I don't think they make Ubuntu for the intel macs yet do they?
[11:42] <unfo> sybariten: mac warranty and tech support is superb.
[11:42] <unfo> Knowledge_: ask in channel #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <unfo> Knowledge_: i doubt it
[11:43] <NoUse> Knowledge_ x86 ubuntu will run with bootcamp
[11:43] <sybariten> unfo: yeah, i wonder how much they care about warranty and support if you have installed something other than their beloved aqua themed OS
[11:43] <PVZ> how can I change the language on Gimp?
[11:43] <gpfreitas> Hi everybody. Ekiga problem: people that call me cannot hear my voice; when I call them, they can. I am running Foresight Linux, not Ubuntu (in my Ubuntu installation everything is working fine!), sorry for posting this here.
[11:43] <unfo> gpfreitas: ask in ##linux
[11:43] <gpfreitas> thanks unfo
[11:46] <unfo> sybariten: warranty should be fine. support? no.
[11:46] <Sanne> PVZ, I believe Gimp uses the language setting of your system. I remember changing it by starting Gimp from a terminal where I had set the language environment variable to a different language.
[11:46] <eugman> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:46] <eugman> http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/downloads.html
[11:46] <unfo> eugman: hmm
[11:46] <Sanne> PVZ, trying it now, sec
[11:47] <PVZ> Sanne, ok
[11:47] <eugman> Now, I tried running the windows version in wine but the keys are unresponsive.
[11:47] <Seantater> Hey -- is ubuntuforums.org down?
[11:47] <Zeus`> yeah im having some trouble accesing it
[11:47] <cjacob> hello?
[11:48] <Seantater> I can't even ping it..
[11:48] <Linoob> does this look like a PCI bus number 0000:01:0a.0??
[11:48] <cjacob> is this where i can get help with dapper?
[11:48] <nickrud> cjacob, no, #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <Samuli^>  #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <cjacob> kk
[11:48] <cjacob> thanks
[11:49] <nickrud> and, sun java is in the repos for dapper, I can retire an xchat auto-replace soon :)
[11:50] <unfo> eugman: try this maybe: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[11:50] <eugman> I apparently have the newest version.
[11:50] <eugman> Have you tried running it?
[11:51] <matsur> any one know of precompiled amd64 amarok 1.4 debs?
[11:51] <Sanne> PVZ, hrmph, doesn't work now. But you can try: type 'locale' in a terminal to see the several language variables and what they are set to. Then try to set some of them to your desired locale by typing for example 'export LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.UTF-8', then type 'gimp' to start gimp.
[11:51] <unfo> matsur: are they in multiverse?
[11:51] <cjacob>  is there a way to create a user acount in the terminal with administrator privliges (ie, can create other user accounts/update/ and use synaptic?)
[11:51] <DaSkreech> Where did kalimoto-miracle- lemon.ogg come from?
[11:51] <unfo> cjacob: you need to add them to sudoers.
[11:51] <cjacob> ?
[11:51] <cjacob> sorry im a noob
[11:52] <nickrud> cjacob, sudo adduser <username> admin
[11:52] <cjacob> kk
[11:52] <matsur> unfo, nope, 1.3.8 is the latest but i need 1.4 for AAC support
[11:52] <Kyoske> hey nickrud
[11:52] <nickrud> cjacob, that gives the user sudo privileges
[11:52] <nickrud> Kyoske, hi
[11:52] <Kyoske> have u heard i got ubuntu working
[11:52] <cjacob> thanks
[11:52] <crimsun> matsur: read the topic of #kubuntu
[11:52] <cjacob> how do i get there in the first place?
[11:52] <cjacob> root?
[11:52] <nickrud> Kyoske, good. You were in a bad, bad place last I saw
[11:52] <DaSkreech> Oh
[11:53] <PVZ> Sanne, thank you very much,i'll try it now
[11:53] <Kyoske> im in ubuntu right now, i just need to figure out how to customize
[11:53] <DaSkreech> Where did kalimoto-miracle- lemon.ogg get donated from?
[11:53] <NoUse> cjacob the first user that ubuntu creates has sudo privledges
[11:53] <Sanne> PVZ, you're welcome.
[11:53] <unfo> eugman: try: sudo apt-get install libstdc++.*libc
[11:53] <nickrud> Kyoske, that is a never ending process. Start with System-Preferences
[11:53] <express> anyway i can apt-get lighttpd on breezy?
[11:54] <Kyoske> kk
[11:54] <unfo> express: maybe in multiverse
[11:54] <express> k i'll give that a try
[11:54] <Kyoske> but right now i need to do something with my friend
[11:54] <eugman> Perfect, unfo. THanks a bunch.
[11:54] <gahan> i'm using gnome and my iso8859-2 fonts are displayed properly in every application, how come i can't type them? instead i see some weirds characters
[11:55] <zack> im recieving this error " checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: e rror: C compiler cannot create executables" what could be the problem?
[11:55] <matsur> is there any way of installing packages for dapper on breezy?
[11:55] <krang> I was just wondering if anyone could recommend to me what to use if I want to set up a server that hosts home directories for remote users (obviously restricting access) sorry if it's obvious, I'm not too seasoned yet. I assume NFS alone doesn't have the functionality
[11:55] <NoUse> !tell zack about b-e
[11:56] <unfo> zack: amd64?
[11:56] <Jowi> where can i change the "locale" settings? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" set /etc/environment correctly, but when typing "locale" command, LANG is empty and all the LC_... say "POSIX" instead of "en_GB.UTF-8"
[11:56] <zack> unfo, yes
[11:56] <zack> nouse, im pretty sure those are installed
[11:56] <svdp12> I was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm trying to install cedega, but when I try It tells me superuser privelages are required. Does anyone know how I can fix this problem?
[11:56] <PVZ> Sanne, and is there a way of making Gimp start as the selected language?
[11:56] <nickrud> matsur, yes, you can use apt-pinning. Not easy or recommended
[11:56] <unfo> zack: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:56] <PVZ> like changing the shortcut configuration on the panel?
[11:57] <zack> unfo, "build-essential is already the newest version."
[11:57] <unfo> zack: i cant help you. i use Debian 32bit. try google maybe?
[11:57] <Sanne> PVZ, only the way I told you (which I maybe not remember correctly). But basically you would do it like this, or you could write a shell script with those commands and start gimp via that.
[11:57] <express> doesn't look like its coming up in multiverse :( lighttpd is really popular too as an apache alternative
[11:58] <express> to add multiverse you just append it to the two universe linse in sources.list right?
[11:58] <unfo> express: its in dapper universe. packages.ubuntu.com/lighttpd
[11:58] <PVZ> Sanne, ok, I don't know how do do a shell script anyway.
[11:58] <salah> hi. is there any plugin for firefox to play mp3 files in the browser?
[11:58] <unfo> express: why do you need lighttpd though?
[11:59] <unfo> PVZ: its easy.
[11:59] <kbrooks> pvz: its very ez
[11:59] <NoUse> salah mozilla-mplayer
[11:59] <Sanne> PVZ, did you succeed with the typing in a terminal? If yes, I could help you with the shell script.
[11:59] <salah> NoUse: thank you :)


[08:23] <rww> current vote count: 14 cast of 63 ballots issued
[08:47] <nhaines> That's a nie start.
[08:48] <nhaines> Or nice, or whatever.


[03:23] <otacon> Anyone manage to get a solid media key configuration application working on Lubuntu?
[08:36] <Green> hello, I need a bit of help installing a program from a tar.gz file
[08:37] <Green> is there anybody here who can walk me through the process?
[08:37] <Tm_T> what program it is?
[08:37] <Green> desura beta for linux
[08:37] <Green> it's just a single file called desura inside the tar.gz file
[08:37] <Green> I'm not entirely sure what to do to get it to do something and install
[08:38] <Tm_T> what happens if you unpack it and run it?
[08:38] <Green> i get a popup asking me if i want to run it in terminal or just run it
[08:38] <Green> if i click either option, nothing happens
[08:38] <Green> well, nothing visual anyway
[08:38] <Tm_T> hmmm, interesting
[08:38] <Green> and no terminal opens either just to clarify
[08:39] <bioterror> have you given chmod +x?
[08:39] <Green> how do I do that?
[08:39] <bioterror> sudo chmod +x binary
[08:39] <Tm_T> right click on the file...
[08:40] <Tm_T> bioterror: if he's double clicking, he's on a file manager, so if you know how to do it in there, please tell (:
[08:40] <Green> when you say chmod, do you mean that thing where you turn it into an exe?
[08:40] <Tm_T> yes, basicly
[08:40] <Green> because it already is in the executable mode
[08:40] <Green> as in, I can double click on it
[08:40] <Green> if i go to properties, it says its an executable
[08:41] <Tm_T> so that's sorted
[08:41] <bioterror> if you run it in terminal: ./binary in the folder containing it, does it prompt anything?
[08:41] <bioterror> or sh binary
[08:41] <Green> I will do so now
[08:41] <Green> sh binary gives
[08:42] <Green> robert@robert-F3JR:~/Downloads$ sh desura
[08:42] <Green> desura: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[08:42] <Green> syntax error
[08:42] <Green> perhaps I extracted it from the tar.gz incorrectly?
[08:42] <bioterror> hardly
[08:43] <Green> ok
[08:44] <Green> I'm sure it would be a generic style install
[08:44] <Green> I just don't know how to do that
[08:44] <Green> because I wasn't told that there is any specific way of installing, rather I was told simply to install it
[08:44] <Tm_T> Green: my next suggestion would be asking Desura's support forums (:
[08:45] <Green> mmm, I don't think that's the issue, I'm just inexperienced with linux, and it still confuses me
[08:46] <Tm_T> Green: to me it looks like the executable you're trying to run is possibly broken in the first place
[08:46] <bioterror> oh well, that's beta software
[08:47] <Green> well
[08:47] <Green> that's the consistency of linux for you
[08:47] <Green> now it's running
[08:47] <Green> i double clicked it a third time and it worked executing regularly
[08:47] <Tm_T> awww
[08:47] <bioterror> :D
[08:49] <Green> and it crashed
[08:49] <Green> that's betas for you
[09:30] <BjornW> Can someone tell me how I can change the default keymap? Each time I start up my machine I have to change it by hand which is annoying.
[10:33] <papa> ]:->
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> quiet today eh
[13:39] <phillw> BjornW: which version of Lubuntu are you using?
[13:48] <BjornW> 11.04
[13:50] <Unit193> You should be able to edit /etc/default/keyboard under XKBLAYOUT
[13:51] <BjornW> Unit193: thanks. Any idea where I can find the right string for XKBVARIANT?
[13:52] <Unit193> Its' noting by defualt
[13:52] <Unit193> Still is noting for me
[13:54] <BjornW> I think mine is euro according to this http://dreamlinuxforums.org/index.php?topic=3305.0;wap2
[13:57] <phillw> BjornW: under Preferences, do you not have Lxkeymap?
[13:58] <BjornW> phillw: I do have it, but it will only set it for the current session
[15:58] <AmberJ> BjornW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455877 (#4 specially)
[16:07] <aqualuk> hi
[17:08] <amjjawad> bodhi_zazen: hello bodhi :)
[19:17] <amjjawad> philipballew, hey, I finally made it to irc :P
[19:19] <amjjawad> philipballew, sorry, I didn't notice the username :(
[19:19] <amjjawad> I'm looking for phillw
[19:19] <philipballew> amjjawad, its all good. I think He appears to be offline. He should be on soon then
[19:19] <philipballew> you new to irc?
[19:20] <amjjawad> very new
[19:20] <amjjawad> first time in my entire life
[19:20] <amjjawad> I have joined LXDE and Lubuntu Team two weeks ago but never logged in to irc
[19:21] <philipballew> nice! how long have you been a ubuntu user?
[19:22] <amjjawad> I joined UF in Oct 2009
[19:22] <amjjawad> but I started to be a Linux User in Sept 2010
[19:22] <amjjawad> since then, I can't live one day without it
[19:22] <amjjawad> I have the same username on UF
[19:23] <philipballew> Nice! so you like lubuntu then?
[19:23] <amjjawad> a lot
[19:23] <philipballew> what about it do you like about it compared to other ui's?
[19:24] <amjjawad> you mean over variants?
[19:25] <philipballew> sure?
[19:25] <philipballew> or just what you like in general
[19:26] <amjjawad> I love LXDE and GNOME 2.x but since the last is no longer supported and I never liked GNOME 3 and Unity, I thought to go for LXDE
[19:26] <amjjawad> for the last 4 weeks, I'm all into LXDE. Never used XFCE and KDE and don't like them
[19:27] <amjjawad> My PC is very much able to run Unity 3D but I'm using Lubuntu 11.04 and so much happy with it
[19:27] <philipballew> lots of people are switching to other gui's after the gnome 3 release. Linus switched to xfce
[19:28] <amjjawad> Linus himself? I see
[19:28] <amjjawad> IMHO, GNOME3 and Unity is just like Win7 (not sure what they call it) desktop
[19:28] <amjjawad> feel like copy-paste
[19:29] <amjjawad> Yes, many are switching to LXDE too.
[19:31] <philipballew> Well the ideas begind lxde are different then gnome3 or the unity project.
[19:31] <amjjawad> indeed
[19:32] <amjjawad> nothing better than turning a dead machine to a flying one :)
[19:33] <philipballew> if you run lxde on a comp with a fast processor and lots of ram it loads instantly
[19:34] <amjjawad> check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/album.php?albumid=2136&pictureid=7114
[19:34] <amjjawad> LXDE gave new life to that antique machine
[19:36] <philipballew> Lubuntu needs a ppc port
[19:37] <amjjawad> ?
[19:49] <amjjawad> reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC
[20:07] <MichealH> amjjawad: phillw has returned, you may see him now :p
[20:07] <amjjawad> Thanks :)
[20:07] <amjjawad> Just wanted to say hi to him :)
[20:07] <amjjawad> phillw, Hello Phill :)
[20:08] <phillw> hiyas amjjawad :)
[20:08] <amjjawad> Hey, I'm finally here :D
[20:09] <amjjawad> brother helped me because as you know, I have never used irc at all
[20:10] <phillw> amjjawad: it's not that hard :P
[20:12] <amjjawad> well, for you but for someone who had never used it ... it is :D
[20:12] <amjjawad> anyway, I'm here and was talking to philipballew
[20:13] <amjjawad> it was a nice start
[20:14] <MichealH> amjjawad: For the normal user, its just a box you type into
[20:14] <MichealH> Nothing too complicated :)
[20:15] <amjjawad> Yes, I figured that out :D
[20:16] <amjjawad> I told Phill, I prefer Forum and other ways to communicate but he said irc is important to meet up with other ppl and get to know them closely
[20:16] <amjjawad> I'm starting to see his point now
[20:16] <amjjawad> :)
[20:16] <MichealH> You meet all the cool, guys on IRC
[20:16] <amjjawad> I'm not sure if you guys know me but I'm kind of active on UF with the same name
[20:16] <MichealH> ;)
[20:17] <phillw> amjjawad: ensure you get #lubuntu-offtopic bookmarked, that is where we just chat about things and life in general :)
[20:18] <amjjawad> Oh great :)
[20:18] <amjjawad> that explains why this channel is queit :D
[20:19] <phillw> amjjawad: I'll send an invite :)
[20:21] <amjjawad> WOW, a busy channel ...
[20:56] <pip__> HI all.  I have a simple question.
[20:57] <pip__> I've been updating an oneiric beta 1 install regularly.  Would there be much pointfresh installing beta 2?
[20:57] <pip__> I think probably from a functional perspective , not iso testing
[20:58] <pip__> if you see what I mean....
[21:11] <phillw> pip__: From a functional point of view, the answer is no :) Provided you do not run odd patches, you can go all the way from alpha1 to final release by just updating :)
[21:11] <pip__> excellent!  Thanks Phill
[21:12] <pip__> I'm really enjoying beta1 & LSC
[21:41] <pip__> ttfn