[12:01] <compengi> crowley1027, it's was for me :)
[12:01] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, no not everytime but this time yes
[12:01] <Riyonuk> And you said everything is from synaptic, I cant find warsow
[12:01] <crowley1027> compengi: oh.
[12:01] <Riyonuk> http://www.warsow.net/
[12:01] <crowley1027> centosian: hello??
[12:01] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, everything that is available in the repositories that is
[12:01] <thehumanerror> cody: I did a search using Google for ubuntu bcm43xx, the first two results look very promising, ones from an Ubuntu forum thread that a poll (they had a poll at the top of the thread) said worked for 67% of people or something (!) and the second result is the Ubuntu Wiki page for using bcm43xx. I'm sure one of those resources will help you
[12:01] <qoq> any tips on partitioning an external HD (320GB) using Gparted livecd? dapper livecd couldn't do it
[12:01] <centosian> and the hard drive is faster member:crowley1027
[12:01] <fnord_> #ubuntu-xgl
[12:01] <shinobi2> is there a way to display the read, write and re-write speed of a cdrom?
[12:01] <Riyonuk> ok
[12:01] <Riyonuk> thanks
[12:02] <pengo> hie
[12:02] <arawn> hello, I need your help plz
[12:02] <fnord_> ask away
[12:02] <arawn> I installed Wine in Ubuntu
[12:02] <pengo> i am a problem with firefox ,java applets dont work
[12:02] <IdleOne> ask and ye shall receive
[12:02] <compengi> i got this running in my processes can any one tell me what are those? if they are default or something wrong going on because i don't remember those processes running http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/
[12:03] <IdleOne> pengo, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[12:03] <arawn> and I installed 'Powerpoint viewer' .
[12:03] <pengo> ok i am trying
[12:03] <Yodude> can someone help me a bit?
[12:03] <fnord_> hey im getting a really wierd out put from glxinfo
[12:03] <fnord_> !anyone
[12:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:03] <crowley1027> !ask | yodude
[12:03] <ubotu> yodude: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <arawn> maybe, when I open a .pps document, Powerpoint does not open
[12:03] <Yodude> ok i want to try ubuntu
[12:04] <Yodude> but without touching my windows installation
[12:04] <Yodude> can i?
[12:04] <IdleOne> pengo, you need to restart firefox after you install those 2 packages
[12:04] <alex-weej> arawn: Powerpoint Viewer is not registered as an application able to open .pps files
[12:04] <IdleOne> Yodude, yup you can
[12:04] <pengo> ok i am installing now
[12:04] <pengo> Thanks
[12:04] <pengo> i will say you results
[12:04] <fnord_> hey im getting a reallly wierd out put from glxinfo
[12:04] <fnord_> fnord@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo
[12:04] <fnord_> name of display: :0.0
[12:04] <fnord_> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[12:05] <Eclypse> how do I stop apt from returning "WARNING: The following packages could not be authenticted!"?
[12:05] <fnord_>  Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[12:05] <fnord_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[12:05] <fnord_>   Serial number of failed request:  16
[12:05] <arawn> When I associate .pps to : wine ' home/USER/blahblah/PPVIEW' ; powerpoint viewer will open. without my document
[12:05] <thehumanerror> cody: do you get anything with iwconfig?
[12:05] <fnord_>  Current serial number in output stream:  17
[12:05] <alex-weej> arawn: you can achieve that by choosing "Open With..." in the context menu of a PowerPoint file, and using "wine 'C:\\Path\\To\\Viewer.exe'" as the application
[12:05] <Eclypse> how do I stop apt from returning "WARNING: The following packages could not be authenticted!"?
[12:05] <compengi> crowley1027, do you know what are those processes for? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/
[12:05] <Yodude> ok tell  me how
[12:05] <fnord_> Eclypse, authenticate them
[12:06] <anto> configure: error: "lua headers are missing."
[12:06] <Yodude> i read that i can download an image then burn then run
[12:06] <Eclypse> fnord_ how?
[12:06] <alex-weej> Eclypse: are you using unsupported repositories?
[12:06] <pengo> i wont work again
[12:06] <Yodude> can it be THAT simple?
[12:06] <linopil> so much post -install
[12:06] <IdleOne> Yodude, www.ubuntu.com
[12:06] <anto> mwe: configure: error: "lua headers are missing."
[12:06] <cody> thehumanerror: I do, it gives me info about it
[12:06] <fnord_> get the pgp key from there site
[12:06] <IdleOne> Yodude,  yes it can :)
[12:06] <Yodude> yes that's where i read it
[12:06] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I don't know. I use universal, backports, official, automatic, et.c
[12:06] <Some_Person> safe mode didnt work
[12:06] <crowley1027> compengi: i'm a linux noob.
[12:06] <arawn> alex-weej ... it's ok, Powerpoint viewer run. maybe, it don't oopen my document
[12:06] <arawn> automatically
[12:06] <Yodude> but what if i download then burn
[12:06] <copyleft_> is there a repositories for flash 9 plugin
[12:06] <Yodude> then it doesn't work?
[12:07] <Some_Person> could it be because my drive is usb?
[12:07] <alex-weej> copyleft_: no
[12:07] <crowley1027> centosian: do you know what these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/  processes are?
[12:07] <Yodude> what if i can't turn my PC on after it!?
[12:07] <alex-weej> Eclypse: you need to install the GPG keys for the maintainers of your unofficial repositories
[12:07] <sillynewb> how do I get wireless to work under ubuntu?
[12:07] <IdleOne> Yodude, why wouldnt you be able to
[12:07] <sillynewb> I think my laptop has a internal wireless card or something
[12:07] <IdleOne> !wifi | sillynewb
[12:07] <ubotu> sillynewb: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:07] <Eclypse> alex-weej, how?
[12:07] <sillynewb> but I can't pull it up via lspci or dmesg
[12:07] <alex-weej> Eclypse: or just turn off any repositor that isn't *.ubuntu.com
[12:08] <Yodude> cuz maybe my hardware isn't compatible ( although i checked and it seems compatible:
[12:08] <arawn>
[12:08] <arawn> the applicatif one opens well, but does not open my document automatically.
[12:08] <Eclypse> alex-weej, how do I get the gpg keys for all of them?
[12:08] <mwe> anto: install liblua5liblua50-dev probably
[12:08] <alex-weej> Eclypse: go to their website, there's no standard procedure
[12:08] <IdleOne> Yodude, burn the cd and see you in about 30 minutes running Ubuntu Live :)
[12:08] <anto> mwe: i have allready got it installed
[12:08] <Yodude> lol
[12:08] <Eclypse> alex-weej, it does this for like almost every package I try to install . . . .
[12:08] <alex-weej> Eclypse: reload the package information
[12:08] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I don't think i have the official GPG key installed.
[12:08] <Yodude> so it automatically detects everything?
[12:08] <sillynewb> how do I figure out if my ubuntu is dapper or breezy?
[12:09] <Eclypse> alex-weej, what do you mean? sudo apt-get update?
[12:09] <bandit> hi all, I am having some troubles with my sound. it was working okay and now it completely stopped. what are some tools to figure out whats going on?
[12:09] <IdleOne> Yodude,  99.9%
[12:09] <Eclypse> alex-weej, if so, that wont work.
[12:09] <Yodude> lol, why?
[12:09] <compengi> sillynewb, from the kernel version
[12:09] <Some_Person> can i even install ubuntu from a bootable usb cd drive?
[12:09] <IdleOne> Yodude, of course not everything is perfect but you should be just fine
[12:09] <Dagfari> greetings
[12:09] <Yodude> ok i still have some questions
[12:09] <compengi> sillynewb, run uname -a in your ternimal
[12:09] <compengi> terminal*
[12:10] <Yodude> let's say i downloaded ubuntu ( .iso)
[12:10] <Cald> hello
[12:10] <Yodude> and i burnt it
[12:10] <Cald> how can i change the charset used by bash plz ?
[12:10] <Dagfari> do I just blurt out my question?
[12:10] <Yodude> first question: i just put it in my CD ROM and it boots?
[12:10] <IdleOne> Dagfari, yup
[12:10] <pengo> applets arent work yet
[12:10] <IdleOne> Yodude,  provided that your computer is set to boot from cd first yes
[12:11] <Cald> or the charset used by the system
[12:11] <Dagfari> ok, is there an option to save an installer to my laptop harddrive and run setup from there? I don't have a cdrom in it
[12:11] <Yodude> and how do i set it to boot from a CD?
[12:11] <Yodude> BIOS>
[12:11] <Yodude> ?
[12:11] <Dagfari> yodude, yes
[12:11] <Yodude> i thought BIOS is a part of windows
[12:11] <Dagfari> basic input/output system
[12:11] <Yodude> ok let's say i configured the NIOS
[12:11] <Dagfari> it's part of your motherboard
[12:11] <Yodude> BIOS
[12:11] <Madpilot> yock, no, it's hardware-based, not OS-based
[12:11] <compengi> i got this running in my processes can any one tell me what are those? if they are default or something wrong going on because i don't remember those processes running http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/
[12:12] <Madpilot> Yodude, even ^^^
[12:12] <Eclypse> alex-weej you have an answer for me?
[12:12] <MementoMori> hi all
[12:12] <Yodude> and let's say i put the CD and it ran, i can face some problems
[12:12] <Yodude> for instace m y mouse it USB based
[12:12] <IdleOne> compengi, all normal
[12:12] <MementoMori> where can I ask some pyqt4 related question?
[12:12] <compengi> IdleOne, okay thanks alot
[12:13] <IdleOne> compengi, yup
[12:13] <Yodude> which brings me to ask is the CD version already packed with the necessary drivers?
[12:13] <Madpilot> Yodude, USB mice should work on the LiveCD - even wireless mice to, IME
[12:13] <alex-weej> Eclypse: no, the keys for the official repositories really should already be on your system
[12:13] <Yodude> so ubuntu has all the drivers
[12:13] <Yodude> yes?
[12:13] <alexises> me revoila
[12:13] <IdleOne> yes
[12:13] <alex-weej> Eclypse: either they aren't, or someone is persistently intercepting your connection :P
[12:13] <bandit> Hello, can anybody tell where I can look to see why I am no longer getting any sound? the mixer is set to autodetect but i still can't hear anything
[12:13] <alexises> sorry
[12:13] <Yodude> cool!
[12:13] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I am using a proxy of that has anything to do wit hhit
[12:14] <Yodude> and another question: i have a NETGEAR FA311 fast ehternet network card
[12:14] <alex-weej> Eclypse: possibly.
[12:14] <Yodude> is it supported ( i know how to configure my xconnection in windows)
[12:14] <sillynewb> how do I know if I am running breezy or dapper?
[12:14] <IdleOne> Yodude, like I said before not everything is perfect so if you do have any problems you can come back here and ask for help :)
[12:14] <HymnToLife> sillynewb, uname -r
[12:14] <HymnToLife> 2.6.12 = Breezy, 2.6.15 = Dapper
[12:14] <Eclypse> alex-weej, this is really annoying.
[12:14] <sillynewb> 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:15] <HymnToLife> that's Edgy
[12:15] <Madpilot> Yodude, for mice/keyboards/etc, they should just work. Wireless might be tougher.
[12:15] <sillynewb> what does.17 = ?
[12:15] <Yodude> but that's where i'm confused, if something goes wrong will i even be able to reboot with WINDOWS?
[12:15] <alex-weej> Eclypse: it will only cause a problem if your proxy is modifying the package files
[12:15] <alex-weej> sillynewb: that's your kernel version
[12:15] <IdleOne> Yodude, yes
[12:15] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I can't use automatix because it stops it at "cannot authenticate" and automatix doesn't automaticalyl say yes.
[12:15] <Madpilot> Yodude, the LiveCD does not touch your hard drive or installed OS at all
[12:15] <Yodude> by re-configuring BIOS?
[12:15] <Eclypse> alex-weej it's not.
[12:15] <Madpilot> Eclypse, be glad you can't use automatix. It's a good way to break your system.
[12:15] <alex-weej> Eclypse: disable all unofficial repositories, reload, and see if the error ir still there.
[12:15] <IdleOne> Yodude, the live cd runs the operating system from the cd it doesnt touch/change the windows at all
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> Where do I find the newest version of java for my ubuntu?
[12:16] <Madpilot> Yodude, just reboot w/ no CD in the drive, Windows will start normally
[12:16] <linopil> in /usr/lib I have folder firefox and mozilla-firefox
[12:16] <alex-weej> Eclypse: generally, Automatix, etc. are an utter sack of crap and you should just not use them.
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> I can only find up to 1.4.
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> No 1.5
[12:16] <Eclypse> madpilot, I'm not in the mood for ignorant people right now.
[12:16] <Yodude> ok one more question ( lol i ask a lot of question cuz i'm totally new to linux)
[12:16] <linopil> which is the right one for plugins
[12:16] <Madpilot> Eclypse, excuse me?
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> I can't find Java  1.5.
[12:16] <Yodude> updates: i can install updates when running the liveCD yes?
[12:17] <Yodude> i mean "can't"
[12:17] <alex-weej> Yodude: you can but there's little point
[12:17] <Yodude> oh i CAN?
[12:17] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I install java webstart 1.5?
[12:17] <finalbeta> Yodude, you can as long as you have enough ram
[12:17] <Yodude> good
[12:17] <IdleOne> Yodude, you can but once you reboot to windows they wont be saved
[12:17] <Spaghetti_Knife> Add/Remove only has 1.4.
[12:17] <linopil> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin Spaghetti_Knife
[12:17] <alex-weej> Yodude: why do you want to install updates from the livecd?
[12:17] <Slart> n2diy: I've looked around my menus and there is a reference to the mythical "disks admin" applet.. it's supposed to be in my /usr/bin directory but it's not... and using this applet I'm supposed to be able to set what drives are visible from nautilus/gnome...
[12:17] <alex-weej> Yodude: any changes you make to the LiveCD environment are lost when you shut it down.
[12:17] <Eclypse> madpilot, everyone in this IRC channel seems to think that automatix is the plague, I've never had a problem with it, ever.  and many people tell me that this channel is just biased against it so I'm just done with that crap.
[12:17] <Yodude> ok
[12:18] <alex-weej> Slart: disks-admin was removed in previous releases
[12:18] <IdleOne> Yodude, one more thing
[12:18] <Dagfari> so I guess noone knows about installing Ubuntu from other than cd rom?
[12:18] <Slart> alex-weej: oh.. what are we supposed to use now ?
[12:18] <alex-weej> Dagfari: install the ISO on to a usb key and boot that
[12:18] <Spaghetti_Knife> linopil It says I'm at the latest version already, but it's not running the scanner class.
[12:18] <IdleOne> Yodude, the live cd will be alot slower then what you are used to so dont let that affect your decision on installing permanently :)
[12:18] <fnord_> Eclypse,  | !patiance
[12:18] <linopil> Eclypse, ?
[12:18] <alex-weej> Slart: what are you trying to do?
[12:18] <n2diy> Slart: Roger that, so with 6.10 it isn't included, and you have to add it?
[12:18] <Madpilot> Eclypse, regulars on this channel have seen too many systems broken by autobreakitz, and too much bad attitude from the dev team of the thing... hence the default 'avoid entirely' attitude here...
[12:18] <Slart> alex-weej: I'm trying to update the drive list in the places tab in  nautlius
[12:18] <Dagfari> I don't have a USB key, either
[12:19] <Spaghetti_Knife> linopil: Do you know much about java?
[12:19] <linopil> no
[12:19] <alex-weej> Eclypse: Automatix is like an aftermarket spoiler for your car that you buy off ebay that turns out to be rubbish
[12:19] <fnord_> !patiance | Eclypse
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patiance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <Yodude> question: so when using LiveCD, i am not able to save files or whatever else to the hardrive itself?
[12:19] <Slart> n2diy: I have no idea.. alex-weej seems like the evil mastermind behind this.. ;)
[12:19] <KirillZ> Hey guys, I get "Couldn't find package courier-imap" after doing "apt-get install courier-imap". Any tips?
[12:19] <linopil> !patience | fnord
[12:19] <ubotu> fnord: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:19] <Eclypse> fnord_ I don't want to hear that bot.
[12:19] <n2diy> Slart: Who is he, a developer?
[12:19] <bandit> Hey guys, i really want to get my sound working again, and I can't figure out why its not playing? i am not a noob, but i have no experience with audio
[12:20] <alex-weej> bandit: what's the problem?
[12:20] <finalbeta> Slart, you can manually edit /etc/fstab , feisty will have a replacement, and feisty should dynamically update that list even.
[12:20] <Slart> n2diy: he's in this channel =).. I have no idea who he is... but he knew that it was removed in the 6.10 release
[12:20] <finalbeta> yet that is still 4 months off
[12:20] <Yodude> so i can say that the liveCD is just to see how ubuntu works and not to actually use the system a bit?
[12:20] <Some_Person> ubuntu can only be installed by booting a cd, right
[12:20] <alex-weej> Some_Person: wrong
[12:21] <n2diy> Slart: Ok, so he saved you some trouble shooting then.
[12:21] <bandit> well... nothing is coming out the speakers! its playing in totem or whatever but nothing can be heard, its not muted and everything is plugged in. my hardware plays when i am in windwos so its not that either
[12:21] <IdleOne> Yodude, no you can use the entire system without having to install it
[12:21] <Slart> finalbeta: oh, I've done that.. I can use the drive.. but I have to go through filesystem, media, sdd3.. the other drives I can just select directly from the places-tab
[12:21] <finalbeta> Yodude, indeed, yet, I personally also used the live CD to test hardware and recover windows passwords.
[12:21] <Slart> n2diy: indeed =)
[12:21] <Madpilot> Eclypse, if your issue is with Automatix, then #automatix is probably a better channel for you than #ubuntu...
[12:21] <Some_Person> how else can it be installed?
[12:21] <Dagfari> great question
[12:21] <Yodude> great!!! so it can control the hardrive that windows uses and add and delete files top it?
[12:21] <Slart> finalbeta: can I edit the list manually? until feisty is available
[12:21] <linopil> I want another partition huge one to continue (enlarge transparently) /home how ??
[12:22] <Eclypse> madpilot, my only issue with automatix is that it doesn't have an auto yes for the unable to authenticat eprompt, which is not what I'm here for, I'm here because apt isn't able to authenticate said packages.
[12:22] <alex-weej> Yodude: Windows XP uses the "NTFS" file system, which is proprietary and had to be largely reverse-engineered. Write support for it is not enabled by default in Linux due to risk of data loss.
[12:22] <finalbeta> Slart,  not sure, but go to the drive with nautilus, and then add a bookmark. That place should then be added to that list I think.
[12:22] <Some_Person> alex-weej: how else can ubuntu be installed?
[12:22] <Madpilot> Eclypse, which repos?
[12:22] <Eclypse> madpilot, I'm pretty sure it's all official. . . .
[12:22] <IdleOne> Eclypse, apt cant authenticate probably because automatix broke them
[12:23] <Yodude> that's ok, cause i have the hardrive (D) that
[12:23] <Eclypse> idleone, quiet you.
[12:23] <light_> i'm keep getting "...ImportError: No module named glade"  while trying to upgrade dapper to edgy using "gksu "update-manager -c"" and the apt-get alternative doesn't work either (doesn't find any updates)
[12:23] <Yodude> it's FAT332
[12:23] <IdleOne> Eclypse, F U
[12:23] <Yodude> 32*
[12:23] <alex-weej> Some_Person: lots and lots of different ways :)
[12:23] <Slart> finalbeta... yes.. but then it goes to the bottom of the list.. and it's colored like a bookmark.. instead of the fancy hard drive graphics.. it's really just an annyoance.. but still
[12:23] <Yodude> can it be written to?
[12:23] <Madpilot> IdleOne, Eclypse - be polite.
[12:23] <Eclypse> IdleOne, try using your brain then mindlessly blaming automatix.
[12:23] <KirillZ> Hey, just to shed some more light. Could it not be finding "courier-imap" package because apt-get itself got corrupt somehow? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :)
[12:23] <TehBigToe> guys, I want to start doing backups, I have a new DVD+-RW drive and I'm going to get some rewritables tomorrow, how do I set ubuntu to do a backup every night of all the files that have changed and put them on the disc, while keeping the old files on there and overwriting them if there's a newer version?
[12:23] <Eclypse> rather then*
[12:23] <Madpilot> Eclypse, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[12:23] <alex-weej> Yodude: FAT32 is 100% supported (the specification is open)
[12:23] <Eclypse> madpilot, if it is necessary, yes
[12:23] <Eclypse> madpilot, what's the pastebin site again?
[12:23] <alex-weej> TehBigToe: look up "rsync"
[12:23] <TehBigToe> ok
[12:23] <bandit> alex-week, are there any log files i can look to see why I am not hearing any sound?
[12:23] <IdleOne> Madpilot, I was polite he is being a arse and should be sent on his way. Im done going back to people who actualy want help
[12:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, paste | Eclypse
[12:23] <Some_Person> alex-weej: ?
[12:24] <ubotu> Eclypse: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:24] <webmaren> TehBigToe: that's kind of a waste of disks
[12:24] <lotwook> I'm using Avidemux to convert an avi file to MPG to make a VCD. It is taking a very long time to encode, approximately in real time with the video. Is this a neccessary evil or is there a fast encoder out there?
[12:24] <TehBigToe> webmaren, no it isn't
[12:24] <TehBigToe> I only use one disc
[12:24] <Yodude> good good this way i can transfer files that i work with and use them with both Win and ubuntu, i just put the files made with ubuntu on D: and then in windows transfer them on C:
[12:24] <TehBigToe> and update it every night
[12:24] <Yodude> that's a solution no?>
[12:24] <webmaren> TehBigToe: ah
[12:24] <alex-weej> lotwook: are you re-encoding the video data or just remuxing it?
[12:24] <TehBigToe> a reweritable disc
[12:24] <alex-weej> bandit: do you have jabber?
[12:25] <webmaren> TehBigToe: well, then you'll lose the files you wrote the day before when you overwrite for the next night
[12:25] <Madpilot> Yodude, if you have a FAT32 partition, then both XP & Ubuntu could read & write files to it, yes
[12:25] <bandit> alex-weej, i have google talk and gaim
[12:25] <insomninja> anyone here who have any experience from asus laptops?
[12:25] <alex-weej> bandit: what's your JID?
[12:25] <Some_Person> alex-weej: how else can ubuntu be installed than booting a cd?
[12:25] <kck> anyone here familiar with stl_alloc and why it's not part of libstdc++6-4.0-dev?
[12:25] <lotwook> It apprears I am re-encoding, basically loaded the the avi and chose auto > create VCD
[12:25] <Yodude> AWESOME. i really think i'm gonna use ubuntu for some stuff
[12:25] <alex-weej> Some_Person: netinstall from an existing UNIX installation, off a usb key, etc.
[12:26] <Yodude> maybe not all of my computing, but i'm sure linux is a system i can count on
[12:26] <TehBigToe> webmaren, I will?
[12:26] <Yodude> not like that crappy windows
[12:26] <sillynewb> lshw gives me this:         *-network DISABLED
[12:26] <sillynewb>              description: Wireless interface
[12:26] <sillynewb>              product: Broadcom Corporation
[12:26] <sillynewb>              vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[12:26] <sillynewb>  <-- how do I go from this to working wireless?
[12:26] <alex-weej> lotwook: video re-encoding does take a while, way slower than real time
[12:26] <TehBigToe> I'll overwrite the existing ones
[12:26] <webmaren> TehBigToe: sounds like you will
[12:26] <Some_Person> so can i install 6.10 by booting the 6.06 live cd?
[12:26] <Some_Person> i have 2 drives
[12:26] <TehBigToe> but not delete the existing unchanged ones?
[12:26] <alex-weej> lotwook: you're looking at maybe 6 hours for a full length film
[12:26] <TehBigToe> surely?
[12:26] <finalbeta> Some_Person, it's possible, but I wouldn't do that. Please download the news live CD.
[12:27] <alex-weej> Some_Person: why would you want to do that? can you not boot the 6.10 live cd?
[12:27] <webmaren> TehBigToe: I think you will, check with someone else though, I've never worked with ReWritable disks before
[12:27] <Some_Person> the 6.10 one wont boot
[12:27] <lotwook> alex-weej: ok thanks. suppose I should look into some overnight scripting :)
[12:27] <Some_Person> dont know why
[12:27] <TehBigToe> ACTION is listening to DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[12:27] <Yodude> btw can i ask you guys something about ubuntu and also some other thing?
[12:27] <alex-weej> Some_Person: have you tried the minimal CD?
[12:27] <alex-weej> Yodude: just ask
[12:27] <IdleOne> Yodude, ask away
[12:27] <Some_Person> i tried the regular one
[12:27] <finalbeta> Some_Person, much chance a 6.10 disk install wont boot either, did you report a bug?
[12:27] <Some_Person> and i tried safemode
[12:27] <TehBigToe> argh, who put the "Amarok NP" button next to the taskbar?
[12:27] <bandit> alex-weej, its xsrevolt but i am having difficulties connecting with gaim, i'm going to look it up real quick
[12:27] <finalbeta> Some_Person, try the alternate one
[12:27] <TehBigToe> :s webmaren
[12:27] <Some_Person> i know the 6.06 boots
[12:28] <TehBigToe> I might do it manually then
[12:28] <Yodude> i heard Google develloped a system based on ubuntu linux, called "Goobuntu"
[12:28] <Eclypse> madpilot past.ubuntu-nl.org/38934
[12:28] <alex-weej> Yodude: no.
[12:28] <Some_Person> cant i just install 6.10 from 6.06 cd
[12:28] <TehBigToe> do it in list mode and see the modified dates
[12:28] <webmaren> TehBigToe: go out and buy an external drive
[12:28] <alex-weej> bandit: never mind we can do it over the channel
[12:28] <TehBigToe> pfft, no
[12:28] <Yodude> no? i mean internally they use it
[12:28] <infidel> how do i check my irq's?
[12:28] <Yodude> i was gonna ask if it's ever gonna get released to the public
[12:28] <TehBigToe> that involves money
[12:28] <Yodude> 'i would SURE use it
[12:28] <braden__> hi there, how can I get ubuntu to mount my ipod into /media/ipod for use with gtkpod?
[12:28] <TehBigToe> and I am saving up the money I have for a new PC :f
[12:28] <alex-weej> bandit: what sound card is it?
[12:28] <bandit> okay, I got on if u still want tho
[12:28] <finalbeta> Yodude, they didn't, and why would you use it?
[12:29] <bandit> its a built in one intel something
[12:29] <finalbeta> The google craze is 2 much.
[12:29] <TehBigToe> I rarely get money, and this christmas I'm saving it up instead of blowing it all on random stuff
[12:29] <Yodude> because of a really simple thing: I...HATE...WINDOWS
[12:29] <bandit> alex-weej, INTEL ICH5
[12:29] <braden__> anyone?
[12:29] <Madpilot> Eclypse, which of those repos isn't authenticating?
[12:29] <danielmccauley> If I were to install an old version of Ubuntu 5.* , would I just need to re-download the 6.06 ISO to upgrade?
[12:29] <alex-weej> bandit: what happens when you run "gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc ! gconfaudiosink"? (press ctrl+c to quit it)
[12:29] <Yodude> and i think Google would make an OS very easy to use and maybe that can run some windows software somehow
[12:29] <Eclypse> madpilot it seems like all of them, I get that error when trying to install anything.
[12:30] <webmaren> TehBigToe: then buy a second HD
[12:30] <alex-weej> Yodude: we can already run Windows software
[12:30] <webmaren> TehBigToe: and backup to that
[12:30] <TehBigToe> but but but
[12:30] <alex-weej> I'm running Steam with Counter-Strike and Half-Life, etc.!
[12:30] <juanchito2006> Need help with my monitor: HP L1706. After installing the ATi driver and reboot, the monitor gets out of sync
[12:30] <bandit> alex-weej, it looks like its play but I can't hear anything
[12:30] <Yodude> WHAT! you;re kidding!
[12:30] <Yodude> but it's Linux!
[12:30] <webmaren> TehBigToe: and you can put it in your new comp
[12:30] <DarthLappy> Yodude: And...?
[12:30] <kck> it's a windows emulator
[12:30] <Madpilot> Eclypse, odd. you've got a standard repo set except for the automatix & wine ones - you probably need to add the keys for either/both of them
[12:30] <IdleOne> Yodude, with wine , vmware , cedega for games
[12:30] <kck> wine, winex, or cedega
[12:31] <alex-weej> Yodude: a lot of people spent a lot of time coding an open source version of the Windows libraries so we can run Windows software. it's called "Wine"
[12:31] <Eclypse> madpilot, how would I go about doing that?
[12:31] <linopil> !xgl
[12:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:31] <kck> Let me put it this way: today is going to be a learning experience.
[12:31] <alex-weej> bandit: ok try this
[12:31] <danielmccauley> If I were to install an old version of Ubuntu 5.* , would I just need to re-download the 6.06 ISO to upgrade?
[12:31] <Yodude> i can't believe what i'm hearing
[12:31] <alex-weej> bandit: "audiotestsrc ! alsasink"
[12:31] <jirihavelka> ehm, somebody who have C-media 8738 and will show me screenshot of some mixer setup (i don't know how to make microphone work and after some playinge with mixer i haven't output too :( )
[12:31] <TuTUx> hello everyone, is there any rc file for me to configure the orders of auto startup programs ?
[12:31] <Yodude> i wonder why Linux has only 3% market share
[12:31] <emun> I get an error concerning something called havp anytime I use synaptic to install any software, it prevents some files from being installed sometimes I get a message saying I should chmod havp. What is goig on please, help
[12:31] <Madpilot> Eclypse, let me find you a link, it's been ages since I've added keys manually for repos...
[12:31] <juanchito2006> Yodude: Take some WINE
[12:31] <Yodude> it seems to me much better than windows
[12:31] <alex-weej> bandit: with gst-launch-0.10 in front of it, sorry
[12:31] <Yodude> lol
[12:31] <bandit> oh okay
[12:31] <Eclypse> madpilot, lol
[12:32] <alex-weej> Yodude: network effect
[12:32] <Eclypse> madpilot, thanks
[12:32] <Yodude> what do you mean?
[12:32] <webmaren> danielmccauley: no, you would just upgrade through the update manager
[12:32] <alex-weej> Yodude: it's beneficial for most people to simply use what everyone else uses.
[12:32] <adaptr>  Yodude: "market share" is a nonsense term
[12:32] <ehm> help plz
[12:32] <nix_ferret> How would I add my ubuntu box to my workgroup?
[12:32] <bandit> alex-weej, still nothing
[12:32] <danielmccauley> webmarren:and it would do that automatically?? all updates to 6.06?
[12:32] <Yodude> ( i'm actually gonna buy a mac later) but i'm thinking about starting to ditch windows a bit right now
[12:32] <kck> Linux doesn't have billions of PR $$$ to brainwash society, nor will it ever I'd believe
[12:32] <alex-weej> bandit: run "alsamixer" (it's a console-based mixing application)
[12:32] <webmaren> danielmccauley: it should tell you that dapper is avaiable
[12:33] <IdleOne> Yodude, you can also run ubuntu on Mac
[12:33] <webmaren> danielmccauley: and ask if you want to upgrade
[12:33] <Yodude> GREAT!
[12:33] <alex-weej> bandit: and have a play around, sometimes some of the settings there may be hidden from other mixers by default
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> I'm having trouble getting WPA working with my Atheros card. Network Manager doesn't seem to find it.
[12:33] <DarthLappy> How can I check what's using a device?
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> And ideas?
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> Any
[12:33] <jirihavelka> ehm, somebody who have C-media 8738 and will show me screenshot of some mixer setup (i don't know how to make microphone work and after some playinge with mixer i haven't output too :( )
[12:33] <danielmccauley> webmarren: ok excellent, thanks
[12:33] <alex-weej> DarthLappy: fuser /dev/device
[12:33] <Madpilot> Eclypse, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[12:33] <Yodude> mac is based on Unix just like Linux
[12:33] <bandit> alex-weej, okay, thanks i'll look around
[12:33] <Yodude> they say it can run Unix Software
[12:33] <Madpilot> Eclypse, scroll down to the 'Managing Keys' section
[12:33] <DarthLappy> alex-weej: fuser, that's the one. Thanks :)
[12:33] <Eclypse> madpilot, do you have any idea why Edgy's network manager doesn't open with gksudo anymore?
[12:34] <alex-weej> bandit: sorry i can't really help more than that but it really does seem like it's a mixing problem
[12:34] <Yodude> that way many of Ubuntu Programs will work with my mc
[12:34] <adaptr> Yodude: Linux is not based on Unix
[12:34] <Eclypse> madpilot, it's like someone screwed up in the newiest programming or something
[12:34] <juanchito2006> Yodude: Not precisely
[12:34] <danielmccauley> webmarren: last question?  Even if i install Ubuntu 5.04 it will update correctly?
[12:34] <nix_ferret> I'm trying to mount a smb share from my winXP box b/c I'm getting the 'can not read from resource' bug error. Any tips?
[12:34] <Madpilot> Eclypse, no idea, I still don't run Edgy myself
[12:34] <adaptr> for random values of "Unix", anyway
[12:34] <Yodude> but Linus Torvalds did start it with UNIX code i read
[12:34] <juanchito2006> adaptr: Linux is based on Minix which is based on Unix
[12:34] <adaptr> juanchito2006: thanks for explaining what I didn't need
[12:34] <Motoko-chan> Linux isn't really based on Minix...
[12:34] <Eclypse> madpilot, smart move.
[12:35] <webmaren> danielmccauley: you will have to update to 5.10 first
[12:35] <webmaren> webmaren: then 6.06
[12:35] <DarthLappy> Hmm, well fuser doesn't say anything is using it... But umount still reports it as busy.
[12:35] <Eclypse> madpilot I'm considering moving back to dapper, since I find this quite ridiculous
[12:35] <adaptr> Yodude: sMackOS X *is* Unix - it's the darwin microkernel with smackos gui on top
[12:35] <Eclypse> madpilot, but I like Upstart . . . lol
[12:35] <emun> what is havp anybody
[12:35] <adaptr> Yodude: and in that sense, it is not "based" on Unix
[12:35] <flossgeek> GNU is not Unix it is a complete rewrite if the unix operating system
[12:35] <webmaren> danielmccauley: then 6.06
[12:35] <danielmccauley> webmarren: so approx how long should all the updates take? if im on broadband? I mean would it be quicker to just install 6.06?
[12:35] <webmaren> danielmccauley: and then 6.10 if you want
[12:35] <adaptr> flossgeek: erm.. except for the "operating system" part, that is
[12:36] <webmaren> danielmccauley: of course it would be quicker
[12:36] <Yodude> yes i meant in Kernel, but that's the core of the system so i assumed it is *based* on it
[12:36] <nix_ferret> dapper's gui was all messed up for me and feisty was hosed too, so I'm runnin edgy
[12:36] <webmaren> danielmccauley: even on broadband cycling up the updates would be 2-3hrs
[12:36] <danielmccauley> webmarren: i guess Ill finish d/l that and just install as a fresh copy
[12:36] <alex-weej> danielmccauley: straight installations are always preferred to upgrades
[12:36] <flossgeek> adaptr i agree if we want to bring in extra modules etc
[12:36] <Eclypse> madpilot, it gives me a could not connect error
[12:36] <jhaitas> feisty is running smooth for me
[12:36] <Madpilot> Eclypse, the URL I gave you does?
[12:36] <adaptr> Yodude: well.. read Linus's own istory of it if you're interested, but he threw out Minix's roots as soon as he was able to compile Gnu C
[12:36] <alex-weej> danielmccauley: sometimes upgrades miss steps (these are obviously just bugs) but you can avoid this by just installing the latest version from scratch
[12:37] <Yodude> the last obstacle standing in front of me downloading ubuntu is my connection
[12:37] <Eclypse> madpilot, the instructions.
[12:37] <KirillZ> Just fixed my problem, needed to edit out the commenting in /etc/apt/sources.list for Edgy Eft to have universe packages
[12:37] <adaptr> flossgeek: erm ? aren't you forgetting a teensy part ?
[12:37] <KirillZ> Thanks for the help everyone
[12:37] <Eclypse> madpilot gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
[12:37] <danielmccauley> alex-weej: thanks
[12:37] <Eclypse> madpilot, that doesn't work.
[12:37] <nix_ferret> feisty was throwing a bunch of artifacts in the gui before install, so I decided not to chance it
[12:37] <Cald> is it possible to change the default system language selected at the installation plz ?
[12:37] <Yodude> i think i'll need to do a schedule for the download
[12:37] <Yodude> it's pretty hefty
[12:37] <flossgeek> adaptr:Kernel
[12:37] <adaptr> Yodude: I am guessing it's working fine with Windoze ;-)
[12:37] <adaptr> flossgeek: yeah, that bit
[12:37] <lemoniceblock> hi all, I have 0 burning experience and just wanted to check something about burning ubuntu
[12:37] <flossgeek> adaptr: I know
[12:37] <Yodude> yes much *finer* than you think
[12:38] <Madpilot> Eclypse, which repos' key is that?
[12:38] <Yodude> i hate that system to the bone
[12:38] <flossgeek> anywayz who needs some help
[12:38] <webmaren> lemoniceblock: ask away
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> thanx ^^
[12:38] <Yodude> lol
[12:38] <Eclypse> madpilot idk
[12:38] <Eclypse> madpilot it's on the page
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> I d/l'd ubuntu and it shows up as an rar icon
[12:38] <adaptr> flossgeek: why not make things simpler by stating insteas that GNU "implements a complete Unix-like OS"
[12:38] <Yodude> i've had some pretty obnoxious experiences with it
[12:38] <eztk> freeciv is quite addictive.. lol.. think ill have a game
[12:38] <Eclypse> madpilot; I'm really sick so it's kinda hard to concentrate on it.
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> I was wondering if I needed to unzip that before I burn it?
[12:38] <adaptr> flossgeek: which is even what RMS will say when asked
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> (I'm using nero)
[12:38] <webmaren> lemoniceblock, what OS did you d/l on
[12:38] <webmaren> ah
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> windows xp home
[12:38] <flossgeek> adaptr: couldnt agree more
[12:38] <nix_ferret> that's b/c rar associates itself with iso
[12:38] <MasterLexx> anybody here with an ubuntu wiki account?
[12:39] <Yodude> kept getting hacked, paying money for re-formats...
[12:39] <Madpilot> Eclypse, on the URL I gave you? Any keys on there will probably be for demonstration purposes
[12:39] <webmaren> lemoniceblock !burniso
[12:39] <lemoniceblock> !burniso
[12:39] <ubotu> To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:39] <nix_ferret> just burn it w// nero or something
[12:39] <Eclypse> madpilot, lol, what key should I try then? :S
[12:39] <Everflex> damn, my ubuntu installation has become unstable lately
[12:39] <DarthLappy> How can I unmount a rogue DVD drive that is apparently busy?
[12:39] <webmaren> that should help more than I can
[12:39] <adaptr> flossgeek: nitpicking, perhaps - but some people can react quite the wrong way when you start talking about "rewriting" software :)
[12:39] <agent> how do you export svg in xara?
[12:39] <Madpilot> Eclypse, the various 3rd-party repos you've added should have their keys listed
[12:39] <lemoniceblock> thanx, I'll read it now :)
[12:39] <Yodude> i'm telling you windows is the worst piece of garbage this planet ever had lol... IT pros actually benefit form on the expense of the user's sake
[12:39] <webmaren> everflex: might I suggest backup+clean install
[12:40] <adaptr> Yodude: right after MS does, I think
[12:40] <flossgeek> adaptr:good point
[12:40] <Everflex> webmaren: backup, how? like a backup of the installed package list?
[12:40] <Eclypse> madpilot I don't see them anywhere
[12:40] <Yodude> they keep making you pay for repairs and stuff when you're actually able to live without them with another much better OS
[12:40] <webmaren> everflex: no
[12:40] <adaptr> Yodude: the 2nd biggest software market was even created specifically *for* and *on* windows.. can you guess what it is ?
[12:40] <Grackle> For some reason edgy isn't blanking my screen properly when in the console. It only darkens normal text, not stylized (boldface or colored) text. That's a bit odd, but I'd just as soon ignore it and not have the screen go blank at all. What do I need to do to stop the console from blanking?
[12:40] <Madpilot> Eclypse, automatix doesn't have it's repo keys listed on it's website somewhere?
[12:41] <Everflex> webmaren: how then?
[12:41] <Eclypse> madpilot, oh, lmao
[12:41] <Yodude> lol, garbage management software?
[12:41] <webmaren> everflex: like backup your /home/(you) and write down all the cool stuff you got
[12:41] <adaptr> flossgeek: I consider myself squarely in that category - "rewriting" sounds a lot like "stealing" to me...
[12:41] <Eclypse> madpilot sorry, not thinking very clearly . . . .
[12:41] <webmaren> everflex: so you can red/l it
[12:41] <adaptr> Yodude: sorry, no - it's "computer security software"
[12:41] <flossgeek> adaptr::
[12:41] <Madpilot> Eclypse, that and the wine repo keys, those are the ones I bet you'll need. Ubuntu should have all of it's own repo keys already for the official repos you use
[12:41] <Yodude> oh yea tell me about it, such a ripoff
[12:41] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:41] <Everflex> webmaren: red/l, what's that?
[12:41] <alex-weej> !compiz
[12:41] <flossgeek> adaptr: No i imply it has been wrote from scratc with different code
[12:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:42] <adaptr> Yodude: really ? why is that ?
[12:42] <webmaren> redownload
[12:42] <adaptr> flossgeek: I know that's what *you* mean, no worries
[12:42] <Yodude> i told you adaptr i've had some pretty BAD experiences with windows
[12:42] <nix_ferret> would someone mind helping me out with my samba issue, please?
[12:42] <Motoko-chan> Any ideas on the network manager issue?
[12:42] <adaptr> flossgeek: try to read one of the many "Unix wars" stories floating around, to get a good idea of how nasty this can get - lawyers and all
[12:43] <Everflex> webmaren: what do you mean by red/l?
[12:43] <adaptr> Yodude: yes, but that's not very specific
[12:43] <Madpilot> Yodude, adaptr - for regular chat, including Windows war stories, please join #ubuntu-offtopic - we try and keep #ubuntu for support questions
[12:43] <adaptr> Everflex: re-download, as in : again
[12:43] <adaptr> Madpilot: sorry, shutting up already :)
[12:43] <flossgeek> adaptr: any url's?
[12:43] <Madpilot> adaptr, no need to shut up, just switch channels :)
[12:43] <webmaren> everflex: most of your software you downloaded, right
[12:43] <Yodude> what i mean is: security companies sometime make malware themselves just to impose the need for their products
[12:43] <adaptr> Madpilot: from your prespective, same thing
[12:44] <webmaren> everflex: redownload after you clean install
[12:44] <Yodude> i'm switching to the off-topic channel
[12:44] <Everflex> webmaren: i just didn't understand the acronym "red/l
[12:44] <Madpilot> adaptr, nah, I'm in -offtopic too
[12:44] <Yodude> c u there if u want
[12:44] <Motoko-chan> Madpilot, sadly, even support requests seem to get burried.
[12:44] <webmaren> everflex: sorry there
[12:44] <adaptr> flossgeek: well, Eric Raymond has most of it in his taoup and catb books... www.catb.org/esr
[12:44] <Everflex> webmaren: no probs, and thanks ;)
[12:44] <flossgeek> ok
[12:44] <Madpilot> Motoko-chan, this is a busy channel, so yeah, some things do get missed...
[12:44] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> I'm having trouble getting WPA working with my Atheros card. Network Manager doesn't seem to find it.
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> Any ideas?
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> (It is ath0 on the system)
[12:45] <adaptr> fsck mi - perhaps it's time to start #ubuntu-wireless ?
[12:45] <Eclypse> madpilot testing now . . .
[12:45] <webmaren> !ndiswrapper
[12:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> The card is loaded just fine.
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> I just want to use WPA....
[12:46] <Eclypse> madpilot thank you
[12:46] <sillynewb> I can't get wireless to turn on in hp pavilion dv2125nr (toggling the button keeps the wireless light at amber, not blue)
[12:46] <adaptr> yes, and that's exactly what's most difficult on Linux ATM
[12:46] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:46] <Madpilot> Eclypse, got apt working now?
[12:46] <recon> Is there an iPod shuffle guide lying around somewhere on the net?
[12:46] <Motoko-chan> ...
[12:46] <nix_ferret> Is there a 'workgroup' in ubuntu? Can I change it?
[12:46] <Yodude> hey btw i forgot one question: is the LiveCD itself also a source to install the system on the hardrive?
[12:46] <Eclypse> madpilot yep.
[12:46] <Madpilot> Motoko-chan, have you seen the !wireless URLs?
[12:46] <Eclypse> madpilot, the rest of this tweaking . . . well, it'll have to wait till I'm not sick.
[12:46] <Madpilot> Yodude, yes
[12:46] <webmaren> !WPA
[12:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:46] <adaptr> sillynewb: if there is a physical button to toggle you can bet that that's not directly supported under Linux - it will have an HP specific WIndoze driver
[12:46] <Motoko-chan> Madpilot, have been
[12:46] <Yodude> k thnx
[12:47] <seba> hi
[12:47] <Eclypse> madpilot, whoever invents a cure for the cold will be my new god.
[12:47] <Eclypse> lol
[12:47] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:47] <adaptr> Yodude: of course - we wouldna leave you stranded with a taste for more and nothing to do about it...
[12:47] <Motoko-chan> Perhaps I should move from 6.06 to 6.10 which seems to like Atheros better...
[12:47] <Yodude> lol yes
[12:47] <webmaren> does WPA even work on Ubuntu
[12:47] <cafuego_> Eclypse: one bottle of cognac
[12:47] <adaptr> yes and maybe
[12:47] <cafuego_> webmaren: yes
[12:47] <Motoko-chan> webmaren, yes.
[12:47] <Motoko-chan> I had it working on a PrismGT card a while back
[12:47] <Madpilot> Yodude, when you run the LiveCD, there's a big "Install" icon on the desktop
[12:47] <Eclypse> cafuego_ cognac?
[12:47] <webmaren> okay
[12:48] <sillynewb> I want to buy a usb wireless card that is supported under linux; most important - supported under linux; second more important -- cheap ... suggestions?
[12:48] <Yodude> but i'm gonna stick with the LiveCD i'm glad i found out more about it, it's not my computer only so i'm not allowed to install another OS myself
[12:48] <cafuego_> Eclypse: yup, one whole bottle over the course of 3 days
[12:48] <Yodude> LiveCD is the perfect solution for me
[12:48] <recon> !ipod
[12:48] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:48] <Eclypse> cafuego_ I don't know what that is.
[12:48] <webmaren> sillynewb: look at the ndiswrapper website
[12:48] <Eclypse> lol
[12:48] <cafuego_> Eclypse: if it doesn't work, at least you'll have had fun
[12:48] <Yodude> and who needs update linux is very secure, along with firefox
[12:48] <webmaren> sillynewb: they have a list of compatible cards
[12:48] <IdleOne> !dualboot | Yodude
[12:48] <ubotu> Yodude: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:48] <seba> im having a problem with xubuntu,, i donwloaded the version for computers with low resources, but when i load the drivers for pcmcia the installer crashs
[12:49] <Yodude> i wish i could but i told you i'm not allowed
[12:49] <Yodude> but thnx a LOT guys i realy appreciate it
[12:49] <IdleOne> Yodude,  well let the other person play with ubuntu also and maybe she will let you :)
[12:49] <Yodude> you gave me the perfect solution to *dump* windows
[12:49] <braden__> hi there, how can I get ubuntu to mount my ipod into /media/ipod for use with gtkpod?
[12:49] <juanchito2006> seba: try the the #xubuntu room
[12:49] <webmaren> !iPod | braden__
[12:49] <ubotu> braden__: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:50] <Yodude> that's what i'm thinking about  lol
[12:50] <flossgeek> sillynewb: id go with an intel based wireless card
[12:50] <webmaren> Yodude: dumping windoze will be the best decision you ever make
[12:50] <n2diy> Anybody know of Monitor test pattern sw?
[12:50] <Yodude> thnx agin guys, i'm going Linux ;)
[12:50] <webmaren> yay
[12:50] <Yodude> i know
[12:50] <Yodude> though i told u can't delte that crapware cuz the PC's not tatally mine
[12:51] <seba> juanchito2006: only one person in xubuntu room
[12:51] <gRaCiOsO> how can i install a webcam ezonics uvt 8532 in ubuntu i tryied with easycam but it doesnt work
[12:51] <webmaren> :( poopy
[12:51] <Yodude> i hope one day people will be intelligent enough to know that windows is crap n that Mac and Unix n Linux OS's are better
[12:51] <vanberge> anybody in #ubuntu know how to fix beryl 1.4 - specifically the splash is not showing at start
[12:51] <webmaren> Yodude: and Mac OS X is now itself largely UNIX, anyways
[12:51] <adaptr> Yodude: not much to do with intelligence, just ease of use and circumstances
[12:52] <webmaren> adaptr: no, it is intel
[12:52] <Yodude> yes i know... when that day comes, i'm gonna be so Linuxed i'll be wearing pinguin shirts lol
[12:52] <josteinaj> hi. how do I open a program at a specific location on screen? I open gnome-terminal a lot and it always pops up at the top left corner of the screen, then I always drag it over to the top right corner of the screen. Can I make it always appear at the top right corner?
[12:52] <juanchito2006> !pcmcia | seba
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <juanchito2006> !xubuntu| seba
[12:52] <ubotu> seba: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[12:53] <flossgeek> sillynewb:http://linux.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=linux&zu=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FHardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:53] <adaptr> vanberge: it's working fine here - which repo do you use ?
[12:53] <Yodude> i'm gonna show my new ubuntu to my friends, he's so into windows lol maybe he'll try it out
[12:53] <Yodude> he knows his way in tech he'll be using it easy
[12:53] <webmaren> josteinaj: it should default to the location it was the last ime you closed it
[12:53] <josteinaj> it doesnt
[12:53] <gRaCiOsO> how can i install a webcam ezonics uvt 8532 in ubuntu i tryied with easycam but it doesnt work?
[12:54] <vanberge> adaptr,   http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[12:54] <gleaner> hi
[12:54] <Yodude> last question: anything to backup or it's secure to o?
[12:54] <adaptr> oh, edgy - sorry :(
[12:54] <Yodude> to go*
[12:54] <juanchito2006> Yodude: I do have a penguin pijama lol
[12:54] <gleaner> Im looking for a live ubuntu cd
[12:54] <adaptr> Yodude: unless you manually fsck your windows partitions, you're pretty safe
[12:54] <Yodude> lol lucky you
[12:54] <josteinaj> webmaren: the size seems to default to the last size - but not the position
[12:54] <adaptr> Yodude: when running the LiveCD, no risks period.
[12:54] <Yodude> now i told you NOT GONNA TOUCH A WINDOW
[12:54] <adaptr> gleaner: then download one ?
[12:55] <webmaren> josteina: well, it doesn't go to the corner when I open it
[12:55] <Yodude> not a single setting that can break windows
[12:55] <gleaner> whdont see a recent one
[12:55] <gleaner> is there a 6.10 live somewhere?
[12:55] <adaptr> gleaner: parse error, sorry
[12:55] <juanchito2006> gleaner: LiveCD is now Desktop CD
[12:55] <Yodude> afterall anything can break it :P
[12:55] <apokryphos> gleaner: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:55] <josteinaj> webmaren: not really the corner, but the "top left part" of the screen at least
[12:55] <webmaren> josteinaj: but ti does default to one location on the screen
[12:55] <adaptr> oh... of course, there are dozens of mirrors
[12:55] <neowolf> hello all, if i don't tell ubuntu edgy to format the windows partition, only an ext3 partition, will it obey me and leave the windows partition intact? i have had an ... unpleasent.. experience of ubuntu nullling an ntfs partition before
[12:55] <webmaren> josteinaj: taht's where mine goes
[12:55] <gleaner> so and desktop will run live or install?
[12:56] <webmaren> josteinaj: i don't think there is anything you can do
[12:56] <juanchito2006> gleaner: Both
[12:56] <gleaner> cool thanks
[12:56] <gleaner> just choose at boot time
[12:56] <josteinaj> webmaren: shouldn't there be some command like running "gnome-terminal -x 500 -y 300" or something?
[12:56] <flossgeek> neowolf: i always manually partition
[12:57] <gleaner> say btw any ubuntu users able to configure hotkeys to logout?
[12:57] <webmaren> gleaner: if you use the edgy CD, there should be something when you boot that says INSTALL
[12:57] <gleaner> seems broken in dropline
[12:57] <Jesse> Hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to burn ubuntu 6.10 using alcohol 120%?
[12:57] <bandit> alex-weej, it was indeed a mixing problem, somehow my 'PCM' channel got muted, i feel like an idiot
[12:57] <adaptr> Jesse: how could you manage NOT to  ?
[12:57] <Mathew> Does ubuntu run faster once its installed compared on the CD?
[12:57] <webmaren> josteinaj: there might be, but I don't know of it
[12:57] <gleaner> webmaren thanks
[12:57] <IdleOne> Mathew, yes
[12:57] <webmaren> Jesse: wtf?
[12:57] <flossgeek> Jese: Are you on windows at current
[12:58] <Jesse> yeah
[12:58] <josteinaj> webmaren: ok. thanks!
[12:58] <fabio> boa  noite
[12:58] <s1zzl3r> hello
[12:58] <webmaren> what is alcohol 120%?
[12:58] <adaptr> Mathew: how much faster depends on how much memory you have
[12:58] <flossgeek> Jesse: you have nero burner
[12:58] <Jesse> i just tried burning knnopix with it and it didnt work
[12:58] <Jesse> no
[12:58] <adaptr> webmaren: Windoze cd image burner
[12:58] <kck> Madpilot: absolutely yes, using the desktop cd is like having the hard drive run at the invariably-to-slow speed of your cd-rom
[12:58] <alex-weej> bandit: haha unlucky mate
[12:58] <alex-weej> bandit: well at least it's working now :)
[12:58] <webmaren> adapter: stupid windoze...
[12:58] <IdleOne> Jesse,  dont burn it as a data cd need to choose burn iso image
[12:58] <kck> once installed to the hard drive, it's *much* better to say the least
[12:58] <juanchito2006> Mathew: Yes it does, CDs are far slower than hard drives
[12:58] <adaptr> IdleOne: alcohol cannot burn data cd's....
[12:59] <alex-weej> bandit: if you want to enable more controls in GNOME Volume Control, you can do so in its "Preferences" panel
[12:59] <s1zzl3r> hey where do I put xmodmap -e command for automatic startup?
[12:59] <IdleOne> adaptr, didnt know that as i use gnomebaker or K3B
[12:59] <gleaner> any external cd/dvd burner users here?
[12:59] <flossgeek> Jesse: Download an image from this URL
[12:59] <adaptr> IdleOne: no worries
[12:59] <flossgeek> Jesse:http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[12:59] <IdleOne> adaptr,  :)
[01:00] <Jesse> flossgeek: im downloading ubuntu 6.10 now, its about %30 percent done
[01:00] <juanchito2006> Can somebody help me with a problem with my monitor?
[01:00] <adaptr> IdleOne: I used to use alcohol a lot, until I discovered dvd decrypter, which will burn absolutely ANYTHING.. just using alcohol for the viurtual DVD drive now
[01:00] <Mathew> My Installation always freezes at 20 to 28%  During Copying Files?
[01:00] <flossgeek> Jesse:Jeez you must have a fast connection
[01:00] <webmaren> hey, sidenote... have you ever smelled memorex cds after a burn
[01:00] <gleaner> yeah
[01:00] <adaptr> Mathew: have you tried to check your drive before installing ?
[01:01] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: /leave
[01:01] <webmaren> they smell weird
[01:01] <IdleOne> webmaren, lmfao no and why would you
[01:01] <juanchito2006> Mathew: Maybe the iSO filae you burned from was corrupt
[01:01] <webmaren> at least they did after my mac burned them
[01:01] <adaptr> or that
[01:01] <Jesse> flossgeek: no i dont (768k) ive been downloading for probably 30 mins
[01:01] <Mathew> i checked the CD but not the drive
[01:01] <juanchito2006> !md5sum
[01:01] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[01:01] <webmaren> idleone: it wafted over to my nose
[01:01] <webmaren> idleone: it was a particulalry strong smell
[01:01] <flossgeek> Jesse:ah, u going with edgy or dapper
[01:02] <IdleOne> webmaren, silent but deadly I guess
[01:02] <s1zzl3r> someone: hey where do I put xmodmap -e command for automatic startup?
[01:02] <webmaren> idleone: and they turn liek yellowish
[01:02] <webmaren> idleone: but only in my weird mac burner
[01:02] <flossgeek> s1zzl3r:System>Pref>Sessions
[01:03] <Jesse> flossgeek: i think dapper (thats ubuntu 6.10 right?)
[01:03] <hartsantler> i can't get my wireless working, using Edgy
[01:03] <adaptr> Jesse: almost
[01:03] <flossgeek> Jesse: edgy that is
[01:03] <juanchito2006> seba: Which computer are you using?
[01:03] <IdleOne> webmaren, I have had some issues with Mac's they never seem to last very long after I smash them :/
[01:03] <Jesse> flossgeek: oh ok
[01:03] <webmaren> idleone: ...
[01:03] <hartsantler> seems like my wireless hardware is detected, but when i enter in the sid, it won't connect
[01:03] <adaptr> IdleOne: I have these kind of issues with mice and keyboards... stranegly enough, it doesn't matter what kind of computer they're on
[01:03] <flossgeek> Jesse: Im running Edgy it;s not that bad
[01:04] <juanchito2006> Jesse: Edgy is 6.10 Dapper is 6.06
[01:04] <webmaren> idleone: i liked my mac, until my dad decided that as long as he could check his email on it, it was a good computer
[01:04] <seba> juanchito2006 is a penium mmx(133 mhz) with 32mb ram and pcmcia
[01:04] <IdleOne> adaptr,  I have also had issues with keyboards and monitors sadly
[01:04] <Jesse> juanshito: thx 4 telling me
[01:04] <juanchito2006> seba, any brand?
[01:04] <webmaren> idleone: lo and behold, I found myself on 333MHz in early 2006, banging my head on the keyboard as it froze appleworks after every third keystroke
[01:05] <seba> juanchito2006 ......?
[01:05] <Mathew> adaptr: so how do you check your CD drive
[01:05] <[richie] > hey guys
[01:05] <[richie] > i have a question
[01:05] <webmaren> idleone: and then I met my good friend ubuntu
[01:05] <juanchito2006> seba, is it branded?
[01:05] <adaptr> Mathew: not your CD drive.. your hard drive
[01:05] <Slart> !ask | [richie]
[01:05] <ubotu> [richie] : Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:05] <[richie] > regarding the netgear WG55v2 wirless adapter made in chinda
[01:05] <[richie] > *china
[01:05] <s1zzl3r> System>Pref>Sessions no such in k-menu
[01:05] <Slart> yay.. it worked .. :D
[01:05] <seba> juanchito2006 spanish?
[01:05] <[richie] > any support for it yet?
[01:05] <tevfikt> hi
[01:05] <s1zzl3r> i'm using kde
[01:05] <webmaren> !wireles
[01:05] <webmaren> !wireless
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <flossgeek> s1zzl3r: you running Kubuntu then
[01:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:06] <bandit> !ask
[01:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:06] <tevfikt> i have problem wireless connection on ubuntu
[01:06] <juanchito2006> seba, qu marca es?
[01:06] <noiesmo> s1zzl3r, in kde you can add scripts to ~/.kde/Autostart to run at logon
[01:06] <Jesse> flossgeek: im running windows XP right now, if i decided i liked it and wanted to install it, how would i go about installing it without effecting any of my windows data?
[01:06] <[richie] > thanks i check it out
[01:06] <bandit> !help
[01:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:06] <IdleOne> webmaren, found myself with a P2 133mhz and discovered ubuntu with xfce was nice to know that old machine could still be of use
[01:06] <webmaren> tevfikt: have you read the !wireless pages
[01:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, es | juanchito2006
[01:06] <ubotu> juanchito2006: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:06] <agent> !wifi > webmaren
[01:07] <webmaren> idleone: well, I built myself a 2Ghz
[01:07] <seba> juanchito2006 HP  Omnibook 2000
[01:07] <webmaren> agent: TY
[01:07] <agent> webmaren: you are welcome
[01:07] <tevfikt> webmaren:  i saw that pages but i still have problem
[01:07] <flossgeek> Jesse: Well i have done a few installs and not messed one up yet, but I don't know how competent you are so cant really advise, i always go for manual method.
[01:07] <webmaren> agent: i was being sarcastic
[01:07] <agent> webmaren: i was not
[01:08] <webmaren> agent: okay then
[01:08] <webmaren> agent: glad we cleared that up
[01:08] <flossgeek> jesse:You will be amazed at how easy it is to install, you should make an image of xp if anything does go wrong you can restore it
[01:08] <Jesse> flossgeek: what free software could i do that with?
[01:09] <webmaren> Jesse: there's a resize hda1 choice in the install
[01:09] <gleaner> anyone using an external cd/dvd burner on ubuntu ?
[01:09] <agent> gleaner: yes, works really nice :)
[01:09] <IdleOne> Jesse, throw caution to the wind, blindfold yourself and jump in the pool head first :) or do what flossgeek  said
[01:09] <flossgeek> Jesse: I think you would have to use something like norton ghost
[01:09] <gleaner> agent yeah can you send me your kernel config?
[01:10] <Jesse> idleone: i think i go with flossgeeks method because i have so important stuff that i cant afford to lose
[01:10] <agent> gleaner: no, because it's external so it won't make any difference :D
[01:10] <agent> gleaner: just enable usb
[01:10] <gleaner> hmm I wanna make sure I got the usb stuff correct
[01:10] <juanchito2006> I want to play stepmania, but i'm having trouble with my monitor after installing the ati driver, obliging me to return to the ubuntu diver
[01:10] <IdleOne> Jesse,  I was just kidding always best to backup important data first then install
[01:10] <gleaner> wont work for tunes under slack
[01:10] <dope> hey, is there a default guest account on ubuntu?
[01:10] <n-rated> How do you create a root account in kubuntu?
[01:10] <agent> gleaner: and you do not need to recompile your kernel for that...
[01:11] <apokryphos> n-rated: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:11] <agent> gleaner: it will not help you if i show you my config because different systems require differnt usb support
[01:11] <agent> gleaner: what you need to worry about is having the correct module loaded
[01:11] <apokryphos> dope: are you talking about the live session?
[01:11] <dope> yea i think
[01:11] <gleaner> yeah my point
[01:11] <agent> gleaner: lsmod :)
[01:11] <apokryphos> dope: username is 'ubuntu' I believe.
[01:12] <genben> hi all, is the us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[01:12] <Sonic|Laptop> Is there a way to kill a gui process via a shell
[01:12] <dope> ok cool, thx
[01:12] <gleaner> modprobe -v
[01:12] <Jesse> flossgeek: is norton ghost a freeware app or would i have to purchase it?
[01:12] <rogue780> When I boot up my xubuntu computer, about 20% of the time I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! message...can someone help me please?
[01:12] <IdleOne> genben, probably
[01:12] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: type xkill, then click on the window
[01:12] <Sonic|Laptop> apokryphos, my monitor is 200 miles away
[01:12] <genben> IdleOne: why wouls you say probably? is this a regular occurence?
[01:12] <n-rated> apokryphos, thanks I not sure about anthing right now, I just got the iso for on a DVD that came with a mag
[01:12] <flossgeek> Jesse:Purchase, i dont think most is commercial software on win xp
[01:12] <duda> oi
[01:12] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: then killall appname
[01:12] <Sonic|Laptop> I need to find the process idea for a gui processs
[01:12] <agent> gleaner:  these are the two main usb modules (that load everything else): uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
[01:13] <duda> tudu bom?
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> apokryphos, I only want to kill one instance of it
[01:13] <agent> gleaner: one is usb1  and the other usb2
[01:13] <IdleOne> genben, not regular but occasional
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> Not both
[01:13] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: money, money is a good idea
[01:13] <flossgeek> Jesse most is commercial software on xp regarding image tools
[01:13] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: kill -9 PID
[01:13] <genben> IdleOne: k
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> apokryphos, umm how do I get the pid :)
[01:13] <Nikolas> SonicvanaJr, ps ax | grep <process name> && kill <the first numer on the line>
[01:13] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: there is a program for that, called pidof
[01:13] <duda> oi
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> thanks
[01:13] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: from ps aux|grep appname
[01:13] <flossgeek> Jesse: Not sure as I dont use windows xp for years now
[01:13] <IdleOne> genben, us repos are fine here
[01:13] <agent> gleaner: don't recompile your kernel, use the stock one as it has all modules compiled anyway
[01:13] <gleaner> agent my box is setup for both
[01:13] <lastent> does anyone knows how to list the ram memories i have installed?
[01:13] <adaptr> Jesse: Ghost is certainly not free.. never has been
[01:14] <juanchito2006> seba: what's exactly the error
[01:14] <adaptr> lastent: the physical banks, you mean ?
[01:14] <lastent> adaptr yes
[01:14] <gleaner> lastent ls -l /proc/kcore is one way
[01:14] <agent> gleaner: is your drive recognized by the kernel? use dmesg and lsusb
[01:14] <adaptr> lastent: reboot into your BIOS setup menu, and look....
[01:14] <IdleOne> Jesse, not saying that it's right to do but ghost can be found on torrent
[01:14] <adaptr> gleaner: not even funny
[01:14] <Jesse> does anyone here know of a windows XP image making tool, so i can back up my windows install?
[01:15] <seba> juanchito2006 it crashes when loads the pcmcia drivers,, the screen turns black
[01:15] <lastent> adaptr isn't there any command on Linux
[01:15] <Hansel> Jesse - that is a helluva question for a Linux channel.
[01:15] <gleaner> agent oh yes I can rip and burn everything but tunes...tunes  ripped from the ext generate hard errors
[01:15] <genben> IdleOne: i can ping au.archive.ubunto.com and now the us., but if i try apt-get update, i am getting a dns error, my box *should* be fine, was working other day
[01:15] <IdleOne> Jesse, you can make restore cd's with win xp
[01:15] <juanchito2006> seba: so there's no error code
[01:15] <adaptr> Jesse: there is one, yes - lemme see if I can remember, it even runs from within windows
[01:15] <agent> gleaner: what are "tunes"?
[01:15] <bruenig> genben, should be ubuntu not ubunto, if that wasn't a typo
[01:15] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: kill 'procces id'
[01:15] <gleaner> lastent another way id  dmesg | grep -i mem
[01:15] <adaptr> lastent: you can check lshw, dunno if it's in there... or else use the Gnome device manager, perhaps it's there
[01:15] <Jesse> idleone: i know i can find any software app i want on bittorren i just wont, last time i did i seriously screwed up my sytem
[01:16] <seba> juanchito2006 exactly
[01:16] <gleaner> music cds
[01:16] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: top or ps -e to find the id
[01:16] <IdleOne> Jesse,  yeah I hear you
[01:16] <genben> IdleOne: was a typo
[01:16] <adaptr> gleaner: none of which will get you info on *physical* modules
[01:16] <seba> juanchito2006 maybe the computer rans out of ram
[01:16] <IdleOne> genben,  working now?
[01:16] <Jesse> idleone:  im not gonna risk it on my 2k rig anymore
[01:17] <Sonic|Laptop> Hmm, now how to I start xchat gui from a shell...
[01:17] <gleaner> adaptr Im lost I was answering lastent
[01:17] <Hansel> ./xchat &&  <--- that will disconnect it from the xterm.
[01:17] <gleaner> he asked about memory in his machine
[01:17] <IdleOne> Jesse,  I have a messed up xp box next to me because of a torrent I should of known better then to install
[01:17] <Jesse> idleone: where do i make restore cds from in windows?
[01:17] <IdleOne> Jesse,  in accessories under start button
[01:17] <adaptr> Jesse: http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.shtml
[01:18] <lastent> thanks guys
[01:18] <rogue780> When I boot up my xubuntu computer, about 20% of the time I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! message...can someone help me please?
[01:18] <Sonic|Laptop> Hansel, the thing is it doesn't start from a shell in the first space
[01:18] <Sonic|Laptop> place*
[01:18] <gleaner> welp downloads over caio!
[01:18] <wims> rythmbox should be able to play shoutcast radio right ?
[01:19] <genben> IdleOne: no
[01:19] <adaptr> Jesse: the one I remembered was DriveImage XML, but take a look at PING.. that may just be the ghost-killer I have been looking for
[01:19] <lemoniceblock> thanx for the help all j:)
[01:19] <geekender> Is shoutcast wmv?
[01:19] <adaptr> all  or most of them are based on partimage
[01:19] <nix_ferret> Anyone know what the syntax is to mount a smb share at boot time?
[01:19] <adaptr> geekender: nope
[01:19] <nix_ferret> Does it go in fstab?
[01:19] <adaptr> nix_ferret: certainly
[01:19] <IdleOne> genben,  not sure what it could be us.archives working from here
[01:19] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: just type xchat to run xchat
[01:19] <nix_ferret> sweet
[01:20] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, it won't start from a shell
[01:20] <Sonic|Laptop> complains about not being able to open a display
[01:20] <Jesse> adaptr: thanks ill think thatll work
[01:20] <nix_ferret> Do I have to do anything special since it will have to mount it as root?
[01:20] <adaptr> Jesse: good luck
[01:20] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: you are not running x windows when you try to start it?
[01:20] <metguru> hey guys, how do i change a HD to not be read only???
[01:21] <adaptr> nix_ferret: not to mount it, no.. but to be able to write to them, yes
[01:21] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: you have to. you can't run gui apps without an x server running
[01:21] <metguru> its not letting me in properties
[01:21] <Jesse> adaptr: thx ill need it with my computer compentency
[01:21] <metguru> but i don't know how in the root command line
[01:21] <adaptr> metguru: mount -o remount, rw /devicename
[01:21] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, I just want to open xchat on my home computer as if I was home and clicked on the icon
[01:21] <Sonic|Laptop> I don't want to see it here
[01:21] <Sonic|Laptop> I just want to start it there
[01:21] <nix_ferret> ok, I'll check the magic 8 ball (google) for the how to
[01:21] <metguru> thanks
[01:21] <adaptr> metguru: ...or something like that ;-)
[01:22] <MarcN> What is the best tool to add id3 tag info to mp3 and ogg files?  I have a ton of mp3/ogg files (ripped myself, thank you) and my kid now has a player that displays those tags and now I want to fix them.
[01:22] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: oh. you need to export $DISPLAY then. are you also logged in a the user running the x session?
[01:22] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: then you'll have to keep its session open regardless
[01:22] <noiesmo> MarcN, easytag
[01:22] <adaptr> or run it in an already-open session
[01:22] <geekender> MarcN: easytag
[01:23] <MarcN> geekender: , noiesmo thanks
[01:23] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, yes I am
[01:23] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: and as adaptr suggests you still need to have a running x session
[01:23] <Sonic|Laptop> I can't just simulate the clicking of teh button... lame
[01:23] <dave> anyone have any idea how to get a logitech quickcam messenger working ?
[01:23] <pucko-> is there any reason one should choose the vlc or mplayer plugin for mozilla? which one works best?
[01:23] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: there is no reason why you would want to, really
[01:23] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: what are you talking about
[01:23] <MarcN> geekender: freecddb/musicbrains/etc support I hope
[01:23] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: are you already logged in to X window locally or what?
[01:23] <Sonic|Laptop> adaptr, I like to have an irc client open for logging reasons
[01:23] <adaptr> pucko-: vlc is verra verra good
[01:23] <geekender> dave: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D111225&ei=Er2RRZqlJpHWgwS-yej1Aw&usg=__MFW3M9tjiwDCwAWEZz65ZCWMwGA=&sig2=KcAoLdVdDmSysN81uOgpbg
[01:24] <geekender> sorry, will reenter
[01:24] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, I'm sshed into my home box from the airport, I just want to restart xchat there since I closed it
[01:24] <crackcorn> howdy, what could i use to share my connection with my other computers. i want it to act as a router i guess
[01:24] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: be sure to check the channel policies first ! not every channel on freenode is "free"
[01:24] <geekender> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225
[01:24] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: but is there any open x session running already?
[01:24] <nix_ferret> k, one last question: If my share name has spaces in it, how do I mount it?
[01:24] <nix_ferret> %20?
[01:25] <adaptr> nix_ferret: escape the spaces with backslashes, or put the whole share name in quotes
[01:25] <adaptr> nix_ferret: no, that is windoze-thinking :)
[01:25] <nix_ferret> haha, k, cool. Thx 4 the help
[01:25] <adaptr> long\ file\ name is the way to go in Linux
[01:25] <rogue780> I need to reinstall the kernel on xubuntu edgy...how do I go about doing that, and is it possible to do it over a network?
[01:25] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, yes
[01:25] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: DISPLAY=:0.0 xchat
[01:25] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: that should work on a normal setup
[01:25] <MarcN> Sonic|Laptop: use dircproxy; it is a daemon that connects to irc on your behalf.  When you reconnect to dirc by xchat, it gives you what you missed.  handy.
[01:26] <adaptr> rogue780: if by "over a network" you mean remotely, sure... just be very sure it will boot when you have to load it :)
[01:26] <wims> is find -name case sensitive ?
[01:26] <adaptr> wims: yes, use -iname to ignore case
[01:26] <wims> thanks
[01:27] <metguru> when i used mount -o remount, rw /devicename it said i must use filesystem typ, i don't know where to put this in the command
[01:27] <adaptr> hey - speaking of irc.. is there any way to search for ubuntu-channel specifics on bash.org ?
[01:28] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, thank you for your time and help
[01:28] <maddash> how can I *replace* my ubuntu-desktop w/xubuntu-desktop w/o slapping on too much bloat?
[01:28] <adaptr> not a lot of clueless adolescents here, but still.. might be funny
[01:28] <adaptr> maddash: if you intend to replace gnome you will *lose* bloat, obviously
[01:28] <genben> idaho45: seems that the us.archive.ubunto.com reolves to 2 x ip_addresses, which rotate, and one is currently down, so it fails
[01:28] <rogue780> adaptr: what do I have to do to reinstall the kernel? I think it got partially corrupted when  the computer lost power while grub was loading
[01:28] <genben> idaho45: sorry, not for you
[01:29] <genben> IdleOne: seems that the us.archive.ubunto.com reolves to 2 x ip_addresses, which rotate, and one is currently down, so it fails
[01:29] <maddash> adaptr: great. but when I try to install xubuntu-desktop from synaptic, it asks me to mark changes for numerous other packages as well...
[01:29] <Jesse> how do you burn images with dvd decrypter? I dont feel like going through alcohol 120% again
[01:29] <adaptr> rogue780: it very probably ha snot.. if you lost important parts of your modules then you would not be talking here now.. and if you lost your kernel your computer would not boot
[01:29] <adaptr> maddash: such as ?
[01:29] <rogue780> adaptr: this is a different computer...
[01:30] <adaptr> rogue780: okay, so it won't boot anymore ?
[01:30] <rogue780> it only boots about 20% of the time
[01:30] <maddash> adaptr: abiword,bogofilter,hpijs,...the list goes on, there's 81 packages in total
[01:30] <infidel> anyone have there ir port working?
[01:30] <adaptr> rogue780: easy, ubuntu is one step ahead of you... boot the rescue option in Grub and re-install your kernel
[01:30] <mwe> rogue780: if the kernel was corrupt it would boot 0% of the time
[01:30] <ed25> i've installed breezy and how do i updrage to edgy?
[01:30] <idlemind> rogue780: try running the memtest software
[01:31] <idlemind> rogue780: you might have corrupt system memory
[01:31] <adaptr> maddash: the easiest way to just get xfce is to mark all of the xfce packages but not the xubuntu metapackage
[01:31] <Riyonuk> Whats a good torrent client? Like everyone uses firefox for browsing, everyone uses " " for torrents..
[01:31] <rogue780> idlemind: i sure hope-not. I've spent my budget getting this mythtv network setup this month
[01:31] <ed25> Riyonuk,  i use azureus
[01:31] <mwe> can't you just sudo aptitude install xfce4?
[01:32] <adaptr> rogue780: luckily, both can be done from your current ubuntu boot menu
[01:32] <mwe> I think so
[01:32] <Riyonuk> is utorrent available?
[01:32] <adaptr> mwe: that's not as easy as you make it sound.. xfce is composed of a few dozen packages
[01:32] <ed25> i believe so, yes
[01:32] <mwe> adaptr: I know
[01:32] <ed25> there is a myspace group called "i dont do windows" that has a good list of apps
[01:32] <mwe> adaptr: it's a meta package providing the needed parts though
[01:32] <adaptr> Riyonuk: unfortunately not - I use nothing else on Windoze, as it utterly rocks :)
[01:32] <maddash> adaptr: I'm not trying to "just get xfce"...trying to kick out my gnome installation w/ xubuntu...and I expected to remove packages, not add more...
[01:33] <mwe> !info xfce4
[01:33] <ubotu> xfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB
[01:33] <adaptr> mwe: well, if you're sure... but that won;t get you the required changes in system startup thatthe xubuntu package provides...
[01:33] <x-r00t-x> !eggdrop
[01:33] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[01:33] <mwe> adaptr: what changes?
[01:33] <adaptr> maddash: I think abiword is standard on every *buntu
[01:33] <mwe> adaptr: you just install it then choose xfce at the login manager
[01:33] <bruenig> adaptr, just xubuntu
[01:33] <ed25> anyway, i cant find my current ubuntu disc so i put breezy on here, how do i get it to upgrade to edgy?
[01:33] <juanchito2006> Can somebody help me with a problem with my monitor?
[01:34] <adaptr> mwe: you have done this ?
[01:34] <mwe> adaptr: I've done it with fluxbox
[01:34] <bruenig> ed25, you would have to upgrade it to dapper and then again to edgy
[01:34] <ed25> ah ok, so how do i do that
[01:34] <mwe> adaptr: I believe all window managers provide an entry to gdm
[01:34] <adaptr> bruenig: then why is it installed by default on my dapper ?
[01:34] <bruenig> adaptr, it isn't default on ubuntu dapper
[01:34] <bruenig> adaptr, xubuntu dapper maybe
[01:35] <adaptr> bruenig: okay, must have been really drunk that time then :)
[01:35] <ed25> abi word is in the package manager
[01:35] <Riyonuk> aww I wanted uTorrent
[01:35] <Riyonuk> pssh
[01:35] <bruenig> Riyonuk, get it
[01:35] <maddash> bruenig: thanks
[01:35] <bruenig> Riyonuk, I am running it through wine, works great
[01:35] <Riyonuk> :o
[01:36] <Riyonuk> Im bored, can I see some desktops?
[01:36] <bruenig> hmmm, I am sure you can find some screenshots on the internet tubes
[01:37] <ed25> the tubes are clogged
[01:37] <Mnabil> how can i install nvidia drivers
[01:37] <adaptr> Riyonuk: are you running the latest beryl yet ?>
[01:37] <bruenig> well unfortunately they aren't like dump trucks
[01:37] <ed25> too many people downloading battlestar
[01:37] <bruenig> I am going to start my own internet that uses dumptrucks
[01:37] <ed25> yeah, dont make it opensource though
[01:37] <adaptr> bruenig: whatever became of the pigeons ? that seemed such a logical idea...
[01:37] <Riyonuk> Im browsing through the "Post your Desktop" thread
[01:37] <ed25> proprietary dumptrucks
[01:37] <Jesse> bruenig: if they were like dump trucks there would be hold ups as they go to refil
[01:38] <Riyonuk> umm
[01:38] <bruenig> pigeons carrying packets maybe
[01:38] <Riyonuk> whats a beryl?
[01:38] <ed25> but you could get big files faster
[01:38] <ed25> and just use the tubes for chat
[01:38] <drivera90> How do I handle .zip in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <juanchito2006> !nvidia:Mnabil
[01:38] <adaptr> bruenig: of course - you can't expect to put a whole mirror in a pigeon!
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia:Mnabil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <drivera90> !zip
[01:38] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:38] <juanchito2006> Mnabil: !nvidia
[01:38] <noiesmo> !envy | Mnabil
[01:38] <ubotu> Mnabil: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[01:39] <ed25> shouldnt this breezy auto upgrade or something
[01:39] <Riyonuk> adaptr, whats beryl?
[01:39] <adaptr> ed25: if it did, you would not be happy...
[01:39] <DarthLappy> Ack. I need to kill the UT2004 installer, but I don't know what to find it as in ps ...
[01:39] <bruenig> ed25, no it will upgrade packages but not the version
[01:39] <ed25> grrr
[01:39] <adaptr> Riyonuk: and you're complaining about being bored ?!? :)
[01:39] <anto> somone here that understands configuration files?
[01:39] <ed25> i need to invent the make upgrade button
[01:39] <Riyonuk> I am
[01:39] <bruenig> anto, depends which ones
[01:39] <Riyonuk> if I knew how to do stuff I wouldnt be bored
[01:39] <adaptr> Riyonuk: My desktop is amlmost bare, but I'm willing to bet that it rocks the socks off yours... squared!
[01:40] <Riyonuk> o rly?
[01:40] <Riyonuk> :D show me
[01:40] <mwe> Riyonuk: http://mikkelerup.homepage.dk/shot.png
[01:40] <Riyonuk> Mines the default
[01:40] <adaptr> Riyonuk: beryl is a 3-d window manager
[01:40] <bruenig> Riyonuk, here is my desktop, but I warn you, looking at it will only bore you more (very simple) http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/12182006.png
[01:40] <adaptr> !beryl | Riyonuk
[01:40] <ubotu> Riyonuk: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:40] <adaptr> that should keep him busy for a day or so...
[01:41] <Riyonuk> :o
[01:41] <dm_> Evening folks
[01:41] <Riyonuk> uTorrent
[01:41] <Riyonuk> it would sure be nice if the mikkelerup one would load >_>
[01:41] <ed25> ok so how do i upgrade this mofo
[01:41] <bruenig> !hi | dm_
[01:41] <ubotu> dm_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:41] <anto> bruenig: well i'm trying to compile my Open tibia server and when i execute the configuration file i get a error lua headers are missing
[01:41] <mwe> Riyonuk: huh?
[01:41] <bruenig> !upgrade | ed25
[01:41] <Riyonuk> http://mikkelerup.homepage.dk/shot.png
[01:41] <ubotu> ed25: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:41] <Riyonuk> doesnt work
[01:41] <Riyonuk> oh
[01:41] <Riyonuk> now it works
[01:41] <bruenig> anto, no idea on open tibia config files
[01:42] <Riyonuk> its loading
[01:42] <mwe> Riyonuk: odd. works here
[01:42] <crackcorn> in ubuntu where does the kernel source get put, im trying to compile something but i need to target my kernel source
[01:42] <Hit3k> How would i return Gnome to its default state?
[01:42] <anto> bruenig: dosen't surpise me but do you know what causes the error ?
[01:42] <Hit3k> like Ubuntu Default state
[01:42] <noiesmo> crackcorn, should be /usr/src/
[01:42] <Riyonuk> so is this  beryl? http://wamrfixit.homeip.net:8000/edgy/screenshots/snapshot30.jpg
[01:42] <crackcorn> ah bummer, i guess i dont have it
[01:43] <mwe> Hit3k: delete ~/.gnome*
[01:43] <bruenig> !info lua5.1
[01:43] <bruenig> maybe it is that?
[01:43] <ubotu> lua5.1: Simple, extensible, embeddable programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.1.1-2 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 288 kB
[01:43] <X-NaMe> ciao
[01:43] <ali_> hello
[01:44] <mwe> Riyonuk: that one wont load here ;)
[01:44] <crackcorn> the driver im trying to compile came with ones for 2.2 and 2.4, think itll compile under 2.6.17?
[01:44] <adaptr> Riyonuk: yes indeedy.. but the 3d stuff is only the tip of the 'berg.. wait till you see your closed windows wobble and *burn* !
[01:44] <d00d> uptime[1d 17h 2m 8s]
[01:44] <jengc0il> hi nolimitsoya
[01:44] <bruenig> adaptr, the burn works well on Ubuntu Satanic Edition
[01:44] <Riyonuk> adaptr, but thats stupid. Why would you want your desktop a cube looking thing
[01:44] <jengc0il> how to resume in wget command
[01:44] <jengc0il> !wget
[01:44] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[01:44] <mwe> d00d: incredible ;)
[01:44] <adaptr> Riyonuk: that is not your desktop, it is how you *choose* your desktop
[01:45] <Madpilot> jengc0il, -R flag, I think it is
[01:45] <adaptr> bruenig: do you have a repo for that ? ;-)
[01:45] <ali_> hello
[01:45] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc
[01:45] <bruenig> adaptr, it says it is in universe, have you enabled that or messed with your sources.list at all?
[01:45] <MarcN> hmm, freedb.org seems to be down.  Any cddb conforming sites to use instead?
[01:46] <Riyonuk> See, why cant I have something like this? http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/4673/screenshotsg4.png
[01:46] <Lunar_Lamp> You know those games that used to be around where it was just text saying things like "you are in a room, there is an angry bear and a table" - anyone know of one like that I can play on ubuntu? I haven't been able to find one,.
[01:46] <bruenig> Riyonuk, that is fluxbox
[01:46] <bruenig> fluxbox and conky basically
[01:46] <mwe> Riyonuk: you can. install fluxbox for starters
[01:46] <Riyonuk> But..
[01:46] <Riyonuk> ok
[01:47] <adaptr> bruenig: you're kidding me
[01:47] <Riyonuk> care to guide me through the process
[01:47] <bruenig> adaptr, sorry I mixed you up with anto
[01:47] <adaptr> Lunar_Lamp: there are gazillions of those - just search for MUD in synaptic or anywhere
[01:47] <Lunar_Lamp> adaptr, aha mud! I didn't know what they were called as a genre :-)
[01:47] <Riyonuk> Lunar_Lamp, a text game?
[01:48] <adaptr> bruenig: too bad, I'd like to have a Satanibuntu in the main repos....
[01:48] <bruenig> adaptr, go to the site, there is a script you run
[01:48] <bruenig> very nice
[01:48] <anto> bruenig: what :S?
[01:48] <anto> bruenig: you got any solution?
[01:49] <Lunar_Lamp> Riyonuk, yes. adaptr - wait - a MUD is multiplayer, i want a single player game :-/
[01:49] <adaptr> bruenig: what site ? BTW I want my next buntu to be Skanky Satan ;-)
[01:49] <bruenig> anto, well an apt-cache search lua, gives me lua5.1 which is a programming language
[01:49] <adaptr> Lunar_Lamp: then just install Adventure, it's the original
[01:49] <bruenig> http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/
[01:49] <adaptr> bruenig: thanks
[01:49] <bruenig> anto, maybe you need to install that
[01:49] <genben> with regsrd to locales on the system, what do you set them to? what you want to use or where the server actually is?
[01:49] <genben> regard*
[01:50] <mwe> Riyonuk: sudo aptitude install fluxbox && sudo aptitude install conky then log out and choose fluxbox at the login screen and start conky from within fluxbox. or just run conky in gnome. you might find fluxbox too simple depending on your expectations to a wm
[01:50] <bruenig> I like the santa hat, very confusing
[01:50] <drivera90> What command do I use to move something from one directory to another? Also, how do I create a new directory via terminal?
[01:50] <Riyonuk> wm?
[01:50] <mwe> drivera90: mv
[01:50] <idigital> hey i got an audio driver problem.. anyone have the link to solve it
[01:50] <mwe> drivera90: that will move
[01:50] <frederific> When I try and stream a video, through the firefox mplayer plugin, it buffers, then stops and won't play. How can I make it play? If I download the file, I can play it fine
[01:50] <mwe> drivera90: mkdir creates a dir
[01:50] <Trixsey> Hey, gnome-volume-control isn't working for me!
[01:50] <Trixsey> Any tips?
[01:50] <drivera90> mwe: Alright, thanks
[01:50] <genben> drivera90: mv /path/to/file /path/to/new/file
[01:51] <mwe> drivera90: you can also use mv to rename
[01:51] <Riyonuk> mwe, ill try that
[01:51] <bruenig> drivera90, mkdir creates a new directory
[01:51] <adaptr> mwe: I'd choose torsmo instead of conky though...
[01:52] <jmichaelx> frederific: i have had the same problem since upgrading to edgy on two desktops
[01:52] <bruenig> frederific, click the little arrow
[01:52] <adaptr> unless it was the other way arounbd ? I've used neither for some time now
[01:52] <mwe> adaptr: what's torsmo?
[01:53] <mwe> !info torsmo
[01:53] <juanchito2006> I need help
[01:53] <ubotu> Package torsmo does not exist in any distro I know
[01:53] <adaptr> !torsmo | mwe
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torsmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <frederific> bruenig: Thanks, I've already tried that; it flashes Buffering, [URL of video]  for 1/10 of a second, then jumps back to "Stopped"
[01:53] <mwe> adaptr: it said it doesn't know it
[01:53] <adaptr> sheez... lemme see
[01:53] <frederific> jmichaelx: Had any joy solving it?
[01:54] <adaptr> mwe: http://torsmo.sourceforge.net/
[01:54] <jmichaelx> frederific: i have tried about anything i could come up with... so far no luck at all
[01:54] <genben> drivera90: read this => http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[01:54] <adaptr> now that I think of it, conky is probably the more customizable
[01:54] <bruenig> conky is great
[01:54] <idigital> can somebody direct me to a webpage about audio driver
[01:55] <frederific> jmeichaelx: Grr, 'tis quite annoying.
[01:55] <genben> drivera90: CLI is a very good way to learn about your system, have a play, do some more searching and experiment
[01:55] <mwe> adaptr: I haven't heard of it before. they need to fix their homepage to get rid of the warnings though
[01:55] <adaptr> does anybody know if root-tail or root-portal work in beryl/xgl ?
[01:55] <slicky> anyone that can recomend me to upgrade to version 7.04 of ubuntu?
[01:55] <jmichaelx> frederific: i agree... i have not upgraded to edgy on this laptop for this very reason
[01:55] <adaptr> the last time I tried root-portal it destroyed my gnome-panel...
[01:56] <adaptr> slicky: if you can find it, go for it !
[01:56] <Aldoliel> slicky, why would you want to anyhow?
[01:56] <Trixsey> Hey, gnome-volume-control isn't working for me, any tips?
[01:56] <adaptr> slicky: or perhaps you should wait 5 months like the rest of us
[01:56] <Riyonuk> Fluxbox is rather...odd
[01:56] <Trixsey> Any way of getting that package? Re-installing or something
[01:56] <slicky> Aldoliel:  donno.. bugfixes?
[01:56] <slicky>  gksudo "update-manager -c -d"  <-- there it is
[01:56] <frederific> jmichaelx: Hmm, do you think it could be that firefox 2.0 isn't compatible with the plugin?
[01:56] <Aldoliel> slicky, On the prerelease version...?
[01:57] <Veganbabian> Anyone using EvilWM?
[01:57] <xabbott> slicky: it's not much different than edgy right now and is more likely to break things than to fix
[01:57] <carlos> did anybody get that compiz XGL desktop to work
[01:57] <jmichaelx> frederific: no, i have videos working fine in mepis using FF 2.0
[01:57] <metguru> arrgh
[01:57] <adaptr> carlos: beryl 0.1.4 and xgl, working like a charm
[01:57] <metguru> i still can't get the device to be writable
[01:57] <slicky> xabbott: okey.. then ill stay with 6.10 ;D
[01:57] <metguru> can someone help me
[01:57] <adaptr> metguru: this about a samba share ?
[01:57] <metguru> i have brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 3, 1 2006-12-26 09:52 /dev/hda1
[01:58] <adaptr> oh
[01:58] <genben> Anyone using EvilWM ... do you mean windows?
[01:58] <carlos> ok thanks i will look into that one
[01:58] <dredhammer> +any news on if vlc  0.8.6 is available for Dapper? tried to back port it with prevu but no go
[01:58] <metguru> and i still can't write to the drive
[01:58] <cypruser> What can I do to make my HP Laserjet 1100 work in Edgy?
[01:58] <bruenig> !info vlc
[01:58] <adaptr> metguru: you should never have messed with the device node
[01:58] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[01:58] <frederific> jmichaelx: Very wierd. I'd report it as a bug, but mozilla-mplayer doesn't use malone.
[01:59] <metguru> i know, i can just change it back to the defaults
[01:59] <metguru> but it was just trying to change it to all access
[01:59] <drivera90> Where are things like Firefox installed?
[01:59] <drivera90> (By default)
[01:59] <PriceChild> /usr/bin
[01:59] <jmichaelx> frederific: i think everyone has this problem in edgy, so it has probably been reported.... i would love to know what to do about it
[01:59] <cypruser> What can I do to make my HP Laserjet 1100 work in Edgy?
[01:59] <PriceChild> !printing | cypruser
[01:59] <ubotu> cypruser: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:00] <bruenig> drivera90, well the libraries are in /usr/lib the launcher is in /usr/bin the icons and stuff /usr/share
[02:00] <cypruser> Thank you!
[02:00] <adaptr> metguru: you do that in .etc/fstab, nowhere else
[02:00] <metguru> what do you mean by that
[02:01] <Robinator> hi
[02:01] <metguru> ok, i changed it to brwxrw--w- 1 root disk 3, 1 2006-12-26 09:52 /dev/hda1
[02:01] <carlos> bye
[02:01] <adaptr> exactly what I wrote - you determine access to a mounted partition in /etc/fstab, and *nowhere* else
[02:01] <metguru> what do i do to that
[02:01] <Robinator> What is the correct way to enable "xmms" on ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to play  WMA files, please?  The  #
[02:01] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc.. if anyone has a suggestion, i would appreciate it
[02:01] <PriceChild> !mp3 | Robinator
[02:01] <ubotu> Robinator: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <red> i have wifi radar... how do i connect to any network? i see several networks but there is no connect button
[02:02] <metguru> i think i need to get the b off
[02:02] <Robinator> the #xmms support channel pointed me to the plugins page but there is none fitting my requirements
[02:02] <PriceChild> Robinator, first link, install w32codecs as instructed
[02:02] <metguru> so its not blocked
[02:02] <Robinator> PriceChild: w32codecs *are* installed
[02:02] <metguru> but idon't know how to do that
[02:02] <adaptr> metguru: that does not look right, it should be brw-rw---- root disk 3 1
[02:02] <PriceChild> Robinator, hmm ok.... have you checked synaptic for extra xmms packages, like xmms-plugins-restricted or something?
[02:03] <metguru> argh
[02:03] <red> i have wifi radar... how do i connect to any network? i see several networks but there is no connect button
[02:03] <Robinator> PriceChild: I use aptitude ... there is none with a meaningful name
[02:03] <Siph0n> what video player do most ppl use here? :)
[02:03] <mwe> red: it don't think it supports that
[02:03] <adaptr> metguru: chmod the device node to 660
[02:03] <metguru> you mean 660?
[02:03] <metguru> ok
[02:03] <bruenig> this is a musthave
[02:03] <bruenig> !info xmms-discotux
[02:03] <jvai_> <-- totem - xine
[02:03] <ubotu> Package xmms-discotux does not exist in any distro I know
[02:04] <metguru> so i mount it to /etc/fstab??
[02:04] <bruenig> !info xmms-wmdiscotux
[02:04] <ubotu> xmms-wmdiscotux: Tux dancing to the music played by xmms. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 196 kB
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: then look in /etc/fstab for the line that mounts /dev/hda1 - what do you want to do with it, anyway ?
[02:04] <Riyonuk> how is he making it clear at the top? http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxl3.png
[02:04] <Siph0n> i just used ogle, and it the video was jumpy, so i enabled dma, and it got better but the video was stille a little jumpy....
[02:04] <aresgunther> hey
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: no... you *define* what you want to mount in fstab
[02:04] <metguru> im sorry im so stupid, im just new to linux
[02:04] <red> mwe: how to i use wifi radar to connect to networks then
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: it's obvious, don't worry
[02:04] <metguru> haha
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: start by explaining what you *want*
[02:04] <aresgunther> how come when I lookup my usrname, it has my real name in the e-mail address?
[02:04] <Stonekeeper> Hi.  I'm looking to integrate a load into a windows xp network.
[02:05] <metguru> i want read and write permissions to hda1
[02:05] <Stonekeeper> looking for some tips
[02:05] <metguru> i can't even download to hda1
[02:05] <adaptr> if /dev/hda1 is your system partition then you DO NOT want to mess with it until you have a few years of Linux experience
[02:05] <adaptr> what *is* hda1 ? a Windoze partition ?
[02:05] <metguru> no, i installed 2 partitions, lol, im not stupid, just stupid with linux
[02:05] <mwe> red: I'm not sure. haven't used it for a long time ...
[02:05] <adaptr> if so, you can't reliably write to it
[02:06] <metguru> its a second empty partition
[02:06] <mwe> red: it is supposed to be able to connect to a network somehow though. I know that much
[02:06] <adaptr> metguru: information please.. formatted as what ?
[02:06] <metguru> ext3, NOT NTFS
[02:06] <metguru> sorry
[02:06] <adaptr> metguru: okay, so it is formatted ? where do you want to mount it ?
[02:06] <red> mwe: ok
[02:07] <mwe> you can write reliably to ntfs from linux using ntfs-3g
[02:07] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:07] <adaptr>  /mnt/hda1 is logical and easy to remember.. but anything will do as long as you don't overwrite an existing directory
[02:07] <metguru> its mounted already to /dev/hda1
[02:07] <anto> Mwe: greate i need help again :P
[02:07] <mwe> anto: shoot
[02:07] <cypruser> Ok, I set up my HP LaserJet 1100. But, it won't print.
[02:07] <adaptr> metguru: nooo.. that is the *device*.. if you try to write to that you  WILL destroy all your data on it
[02:08] <lifepositive> hi
[02:08] <anto> mwe: i have got all the lua dev packages installed. but i stilk get the error "lua headers are missing"
[02:08] <lifepositive> how can I play flv files when I get this error from mplayer: [flv @ 0x85f5200] Unsupported video codec (4)
[02:08] <anto> is it possible that it dosen't know where the packages are installed?
[02:08] <adaptr> metguru: please open up /etc/fstab in a text editor, or use the system disk utility to see what's what
[02:08] <mwe> anto: oh. just that, no better messages?
[02:09] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:09] <lifepositive> !flv
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <mwe> anto: like what files in particular it can't find?
[02:09] <anto> mwe: nopp i fixed like 4 other errors.
[02:09] <mwe> hmm
[02:09] <anto> :S
[02:09] <metguru> ok
[02:10] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc.. if anyone has a suggestion, i would appreciate it
[02:10] <mwe> anto: I'm afraid I can't be of much help then. You'd have to go over the source code and try to figure where it fails and what is missing
[02:10] <metguru> what do i do in there
[02:10] <metguru> it says [read only in the title bar]
[02:10] <metguru> [read only] *
[02:11] <mwe> jmichaelx: first thing that pops into my mind is modules not being loaded
[02:11] <adaptr> metguru: that is correct - you have to have root permissions to write it
[02:11] <Flarex> Is a cable modem that has both ethernet and usb ports considered a "USB ADSL Modem" if I'm only using the usb cable part of it? And how would I find which one is the one I'm using?  On the help.ubuntu.com webpage it says " Depending on the driver you found in the list of USB ADSL modems, consult one of the following guides.." but I don' have access to the list.
[02:11] <cypruser> Ok, I set up my HP LaserJet 1100. But, it won't print.
[02:11] <metguru> do i have to do that sudo in the command line
[02:11] <jmichaelx> mwe: hmmm. i had no problems with this until a few days ago
[02:12] <adaptr> metguru: just go to System -> administration -> Disks and check the partitions tab for your hard drive(s)
[02:12] <mwe> jmichaelx: did you upgrade the kernel maybe?
[02:12] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:12] <jmichaelx> mwe: no
[02:12] <documan> can I build via GUI my own linux distro? to take some elements of various distros and build my own?
[02:12] <documan> can I build via GUI my own linux distro? to take some elements of various distros and build my own?
[02:12] <mwe> jmichaelx: so nothing changed?
[02:12] <metguru> there is no disks
[02:13] <adaptr> metguru: are you using Ubuntu ?
[02:13] <metguru> yea
[02:13] <jmichaelx> mwe: nothing that i know of, other than running apt-get update and upgrade
[02:13] <metguru> do i have to change the menu contents or something?
[02:13] <nix_ferret> I'd also like to do this. I'm usin gubuntu
[02:13] <nix_ferret> *ubuntu
[02:13] <mwe> jmichaelx: that could very well have upgraded the kernel
[02:14] <jmichaelx> mwe: i don't think there have been updates to the kernel in the last few weeks.... could be mistaken, though
[02:14] <xyz> how can i make this giam chat, tell me when a massage was posted
[02:14] <adaptr> metguru: I wouldn't know, but I'm using dapper, and you're probably using edgy
[02:14] <jmichaelx> upgrades*
[02:14] <adaptr> metguru: they have changed some bits around
[02:15] <mwe> jmichaelx: I don't know then. I'd check if the usb modules were loaded
[02:15] <trilingualkid> Hi. I need help with keyboard shortcuts. To launch the help browser, I need to press
[02:15] <metguru> yea, thats what im usin
[02:15] <trilingualkid> oxf5. what does that mean?
[02:15] <adaptr> metguru: in that case, yes - just open a terminal (or press alt-F2) and enter: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:15] <jmichaelx> mwe: ok, ill keep looking around
[02:15] <trilingualkid> Hi. I need help with keyboard shortcuts. To launch the help browser, I need to press 0xf5. what does that mean?
[02:15] <jvai_> xyz, when that happens, it'll be posted red, when so
[02:15] <mwe> jmichaelx: lsmod and see if the usb modules are listed
[02:15] <adaptr> metguru: for the alt-f2 option, you probably have to use gksudo instead, but the principle is the same
[02:16] <trilingualkid> Hello? Is there anyone here that can help me?
[02:16] <trilingualkid> Hello? Is there anyone her that can help me?
[02:16] <aboutblank> how do you set LD_FLAGS? rather, how do i access environment variables like LD_FLAGS?
[02:16] <genben> can you actually upgrade from ubuntu dapper to edgy eft from within the o/s or do you have to reinstall?
[02:16] <frederific> trilingualkid: I think its F1
[02:17] <metguru> ok
[02:17] <trilingualkid> Hi. I need help with keyboard shortcuts. To launch the help browser, I need to press 0xf5. what does that mean?
[02:17] <jmichaelx> mwe: no, they do not seem to appear on the list. how weird...
[02:17] <metguru> im in fstab and it doesn't say read only
[02:17] <metguru> lol
[02:17] <trilingualkid> frederific: what do u mean?
[02:17] <Neilp> Can someone let me know if ubuntu supports the wireless card in this laptop http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Compaq-Presario-15-4-Widescreen-Notebook-PC-C306US/sem/rpsm/oid/160283/catOid/-12963/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
[02:17] <metguru> im laughing at my own ignorance
[02:17] <trilingualkid> thanx bye
[02:17] <jmichaelx> mwe: i do have 'usbhid'
[02:18] <mwe> jmichaelx: load them and see if it works though. I don't know why they are not getting loaded. if it fixes it add the names to /etc/modules to autoload them at boot
[02:18] <cody> Hello, Can someone help me with get my wired/wireless working?
[02:18] <x-r00t-x> where do i get eggdrop-1.6.18-4 deb package?
[02:18] <mwe> jmichaelx: that's for mice and so
[02:18] <frederific> trilingualkid: to launch the help browser, you need to press F1
[02:18] <jmichaelx> mwe: how do i load them? modprobe usb?
[02:18] <jmichaelx> o ok
[02:18] <metguru> arrgh, something looks wrong here
[02:18] <`rich> frederific, he waited for all of a minute and left :)
[02:19] <mwe> jmichaelx: I think you need at least ehci-hcd and uhci-hcd
[02:19] <lastent> hi does anyone knows if there is any away to see this page on firefox/ubuntu www.mtc,gob.pe
[02:19] <metguru> the mount point on /dev/hda2 is /media/hda1 ... is this how its supposed to be
[02:19] <con-man> lastent: take the comma out?
[02:19] <jmichaelx> mwe: ok, i found those, they are there under usbcore
[02:19] <lastent> hi does anyone knows if there is any away to see this page on firefox/ubuntu www.mtc.gob.pe
[02:19] <frederific> `rich: that's annoying, thanks for telling me
[02:20] <jmichaelx> sorry, i had missed  that
[02:20] <mwe> jmichaelx: modprobe -l|grep usb
[02:20] <adaptr> metguru: that depends... which one is Ubuntu on ? i.e. which line has "/" as mount point ?
[02:20] <frederific> jmichaelx: I've kind of solved the mozilla-mplayer thing
[02:20] <mwe> jmichaelx: that could help you determine the names
[02:20] <metguru> hda1
[02:20] <`rich> frederific, he's been in and out asking single questions all day. not sure he realises he can keep irc open.
[02:20] <mwe> jmichaelx: usb-storage is probably essential
[02:20] <cody> Hi, is there anyone that can help me with get my internet connection up and running?
[02:20] <anto> mwe:i know where the error apers but i don't understnad what imeans?
[02:20] <frederific> `rich: ah well, thanks for telling me
[02:20] <jmichaelx> frederific: i would be glad to know what you found
[02:20] <Flarex> is being hooked up to a cable modem through a usb cable the same as a usb adsl modem?
[02:20] <`rich> cody, what's going wrong?
[02:21] <neuromancer> irc.brasnet.org
[02:21] <cody> `rich: just about everything
[02:21] <metguru> the one im actually trying to access is the second drive, hda2
[02:21] <nix_ferret> Anyone use cifs over smbfs in ubuntu?
[02:21] <mwe> anto: explaing
[02:21] <mwe> anto: explain*
[02:21] <cody> `rich, I tried to get my wireless working, and in the process i managed to disable my wired connection as well
[02:21] <`rich> Nice
[02:21] <metguru> but its mounted as hda1 i think...thats what it comes up as in the desktop
[02:21] <ephemeros> IMPORTANT QUESTION: i observed when booting in recovery mode (edgy here) it logs me automatically on root. wtf, this means anyone knowing command line could mess up my stuff as an administrator?
[02:22] <adaptr> metguru: well, since /media/hda1 is just a directory *name*, nothing much will go wrong
[02:22] <`rich> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[02:22] <`rich> to make sure the adapter is up
[02:22] <bandit> ephemeros, that is correct, u can put a password on grub tho
[02:22] <anto> mwe: in i opend the configure file in text reader and search for lua headers missing but i don't know what the test is to find it
[02:22] <Rprp> hmm, just a second ago i did iptables -P INPUT DROP :/ but no, all ports are closed....... how can i connect to ssh?!?!?!
[02:22] <mwe> jmichaelx: try modprobe usb-storage and see if it's sufficient
[02:22] <adaptr> metguru: possibly... you will want to re-do that yourself as something like /media/data, or /mnt/data
[02:22] <frederific> jmichaelx: If you add noembed=1 to ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf (create it if needs be), the stream will play (well it does for me), in a seperate mplayer window
[02:22] <ephemeros> bandit: thanx, i immagined that, i wanted to be sure
[02:22] <metguru> and can i use the unused space on hda1?
[02:22] <mwe> anto: you have to work harder then ;)
[02:22] <adaptr> metguru: can you post the line that mounts it ?
[02:22] <metguru> no it doesn't matter to me
[02:23] <cody> `rich, ok, now i feel like an idiot
[02:23] <adaptr> metguru: you ARE using it - that is where your system is
[02:23] <Rprp> hmm, just a second ago i did iptables -P INPUT DROP :/ but no, all ports are closed....... how can i connect to ssh?!?!?!
[02:23] <`rich> cody, lol, happens to the best of us.
[02:23] <jmichaelx> frederific: ty, i will try that
[02:23] <cody> `rich, but I could still use some help with wireless...
[02:23] <anto> mwe:been working the last 24 hours on this.
[02:23] <frederific> jmichaelx: np
[02:23] <metguru> but it doesn't show up on the desktop..sorry
[02:23] <mwe> anto: oh.
[02:23] <jmichaelx> mwe: usb-storage is there
[02:23] <jmichaelx> hmmm
[02:23] <documan> can I install linux in a partition while I am logged in winxp? (like I do with winxp apps)
[02:23] <mwe> jmichaelx: loaded already?
[02:24] <steven> ok, my commandline is doing something really weird.... it now says.steven@(none):~$  when it should say steven@(kritter):~$
[02:24] <metguru> whats the 'line that mounts it'? is that # /dev/hda2
[02:24] <metguru> UUID=137e8bbe-1a3b-4467-ac4a-20fefe11738c /media/hda1     ext3    defaults        0       2
[02:24] <steven> a things have suddenly broke.
[02:24] <jmichaelx> mwe: well, i guess so, i listed it with the command you gave me as being in /lib/modules
[02:25] <mwe> jmichaelx: that means it's on the system. lsmod tells you what is currently loaded
[02:25] <adaptr> metguru: yes.. and you can write to it just fine, as long as you use the right directory
[02:25] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[02:25] <mwe> jmichaelx: the modprobe -l tells you what's available
[02:25] <jmichaelx> mwe: so i could do modprobe usb-storage?
[02:26] <mwe> jmichaelx: sudo modprobe usb-storage, right
[02:26] <metguru> what is 'the right directory'?
[02:26] <mwe> jmichaelx: what are you trying to mount, specifically?
[02:26] <steven> I am very disappointed with Edgy... Bummer..... switching back to debian...  After breezy, this distro has sucked!
[02:26] <metguru> and now how do i change it so at least my group can access the hda2
[02:26] <jmichaelx> mwe: a jumpdrive and an ipod.... neither will work
[02:27] <Siph0n> in VLC, when u go to file->open disc, is there suppose to be anything under "Device Name"?
[02:28] <mwe> jmichaelx: ipod, that works like standard usb mass-storage, doesn't it?
[02:28] <trev_> does anyone know of a gui for creating virtual drives in ubuntu?
[02:28] <factboy818181> anyone know why sound works on starcraft's splash screen, but not when you actually play it via wine?
[02:28] <pucko-> hello. I just tried to hibernate my computer, but it locked up instead. and now after I rebooted I can't log in to X any more. no error messages from X or anything. what could it be? (something wrong with permissions?)
[02:28] <trev_> factboy818181:it works fine for me
[02:28] <Robinator> hi
[02:28] <jmichaelx> mwe: i think so... i have been using this ipod as an external HD on this machine for a long time
[02:28] <trev_> factboy818181:what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:28] <factboy818181> trev_: for some reason, i get no sound at all - in the menu where it says Play Starcraft, there's sound, but not when you actually go into the game and play
[02:29] <factboy818181> trev_: edgy
[02:29] <trev_> factboy818181:and what version of wine are you using?
[02:29] <lixu> Hi. why is figlet part of the multiverse repository?
[02:29] <cypruser> Help! I can't shut down Ubuntu!
[02:29] <mwe> jmichaelx: can it mount now that usb-storage is loaded?
[02:29] <lixu> cpruser: sudo halt
[02:29] <metguru> sorry, not just access, but write to it
[02:29] <factboy818181> trev_: 0.9.27 i think or whatever latest version is
[02:29] <lixu> cypruser: sudo halt
[02:29] <init6> tooooo many users in one chan :P
[02:29] <jmichaelx> mwe: i will let you know in a sec
[02:30] <Riyonuk> How do I exit conky?
[02:30] <`rich> killall -9 conky
[02:30] <trev_> factboy818181: i am also running 0.9.27 and it works perfectly for me except for battle.net, I have done a fair bit of research in getting starcraft to run on 6.06 before I upgraded and never once found your issue
[02:30] <michelp> greetings!  I am currently running on my new (used, craigslist) AMD64 Athlon X2 dual core machine with Edgy.  It works great, nvidia drivers, all that, really fast, but I only seem to see one CPU in /proc/cpuinfo.  this is my first dual core machine that I've set up, is there some option I need to set to enable both cores?
[02:31] <cypruser> The terminal won't start.
[02:31] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:31] <factboy818181> trev_: probably my sound card then
[02:31] <lifepositive> whats the new dual core CPU thats out?
[02:31] <lifepositive> anyone know?
[02:31] <trev_> let me check quick
[02:31] <arrenlex> michelp: Install the -generic kernel.
[02:31] <lifepositive> trev_: ok tyt
[02:31] <red> michelp: try botting using generic kernel
[02:31] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:31] <michelp> will do thanks!
[02:31] <lixu> michelp: do you use the SMP kernel?
[02:31] <michelp> didn't realize it was a diff kernel but that makes total sense
[02:31] <factboy818181> trev_: by the way i get - ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory when opening winecfg
[02:31] <Riyonuk> `rich, it says "conky: no process killed"
[02:31] <michelp> i'll search for it in senaptic thank you
[02:32] <trev_> factboy818181:the same thing happens to me I think
[02:32] <cypruser> The terminal won't start.
[02:32] <jmichaelx> mwe: no, it will not work :-(
[02:32] <`rich> Riyonuk, that's ... odd. it's definitely running?
[02:32] <Riyonuk> oh
[02:32] <Riyonuk> no more
[02:32] <Riyonuk> :)
[02:32] <michelp> currently running updates so I have to wait :)
[02:32] <Riyonuk> How do I uninstall
[02:32] <Riyonuk> it
[02:32] <factboy818181> trev_: interesting, i tried disabling ESD and everything to no success... i even got bnet to work once or twice, but now it died on me.
[02:32] <red> how do i connect to a wireless network using wifi radar?????????????????????
[02:32] <`rich> Did you install via apt?
[02:33] <trev_> factboy818181:will it play without sound
[02:33] <`rich> !repeat
[02:33] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:33] <lifepositive> whats the new dual core CPU thats out?
[02:33] <lifepositive> !repeat
[02:33] <Riyonuk> I think
[02:33] <factboy818181> trev_: yep, it just doesn't feel as good though
[02:33] <`rich> try apt-get remove conky
[02:33] <`rich> er with sudo in front :)
[02:33] <trev_> factboy818181: on mine it ate cpu but it ran without any lag
[02:33] <red> how do i connect to a wireless network?
[02:33] <cypruser> !patience
[02:33] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:33] <mwe> jmichaelx: hmm
[02:33] <`rich> red, using iwconfig, set the correct key and essid, then it should connect.
[02:34] <Riyonuk> and how would I know its still there? its not like its listed or anything...
[02:34] <metguru> adaptr: how do i set it to be writable?
[02:34] <factboy818181> trev_: wish it could work with sound though, that'd be gerat
[02:34] <trev_> factboy818181:found something......
[02:34] <mwe> jmichaelx: you probably need to load some other modules if missing modules is even the culprit
[02:34] <red> ok let me try
[02:34] <mwe> jmichaelx: gotta go ...
[02:34] <gorbulas> hi
[02:34] <adaptr> metguru: it *is* writable
[02:34] <arrenlex> I want to use my Linux machine to make a phone menu. You know, "press 1 to...". I don't know where to even start looking. Does anyone have any idea?
[02:34] <trev_> factboy818181:check this out, mabey someone will reply to it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322082&highlight=starcraft
[02:35] <cypruser> !patience
[02:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: I know "Asterisk" is used for phone stuff.  Don't know anything about it beyond that.
[02:35] <metguru> but only in root
[02:35] <`rich> arrenlex, off the top of my head, google for asterisk
[02:35] <michelp> arrenlex: ekiga softphone
[02:35] <trev_> factboy818181:in 2 weeks of troubleshooting starcraft nothing else came up
[02:35] <michelp> arrenlex: ekiga.org I belive
[02:35] <jmichaelx> does anyone know if there are issues with broadcom wireless adapters in edgy, or do they work well?
[02:35] <Siph0n> red: i just got wifi radar, and i see the connect button towards the right... under New Edit and Delete
[02:35] <adaptr> metguru: not so, but you can easily check this when you do ls -la /media/hda1
[02:35] <michelp> jmichaelx: you may need ndiswrapper
[02:36] <`rich> jmichaelx, broadcom is pretty much straight from the devil's ballsack when it comes to wireless networking and linux.
[02:36] <adaptr> metguru: the current directory should be rwxrwxrwx
[02:36] <idigital> anyone know xgl?
[02:36] <arrenlex> Okay, and what happens if I want to be able to run commands using a phone menu? Press 1 to change directory, press 2 to run firefox, press 3 to cat file... Is that possible?
[02:36] <jmichaelx> michelp: wel, i have this adapter working well in dapper..... i just dont want to upgrade to edgy and be stranded
[02:36] <Siph0n> arrenlex: there is stuff in System->Preferences->Key Shortcuts
[02:37] <metguru> it gave me drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2006-12-25 06:43 .
[02:37] <metguru> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root  4096 2006-12-26 19:36 ..
[02:37] <metguru> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 49152 2006-12-25 06:43 lost+found
[02:37] <`rich> Siph0n, he wants to do it via a phone
[02:37] <factboy818181> trev_: keeps on telling me /dev/snd/seq does not exist
[02:37] <Siph0n> lol oh... wow nice
[02:37] <Siph0n> thought that was just an analogy :)
[02:37] <`rich> ... i hope not lol
[02:37] <Dot> right
[02:37] <arrenlex> Siph0n: I want to remote control my machine over my cell phone. xD
[02:37] <Dot> i have 2 questions
[02:37] <aoirthoir> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[02:37] <metguru> so what does that mean
[02:37] <arrenlex> Siph0n: Mostly to upload stuff I forgot to my webserver.
[02:37] <`rich> arrenlex, i'd suggest heading to the asterisk site and asking around there
[02:37] <Siph0n> lol k :) no idea than :)
[02:37] <`rich> there may even be an #asterisk channel here
[02:38] <adaptr> metguru: hmmm... it seems it has not enabled normal user permissions on it, then
[02:38] <IdleOne> Dot,  start with the first one
[02:38] <Dot> what is '3ddesk" and what does it do
[02:38] <`rich> but they'd probably be able to help you more
[02:38] <Dot> what is '3ddesk" and what does it do
[02:38] <arrenlex> `rich: There is, and I just joined it. Thanks a lot for he help! :)
[02:38] <Riyonuk> I need some desktop enviroments, gnome looks bleh
[02:38] <arrenlex> +the
[02:38] <`rich> no problem, good lucj
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> Dot: Eats your CPU, mainly :P
[02:38] <`rich> luck
[02:38] <Riyonuk> any recomendations?
[02:38] <adaptr> metguru: what happens when you just type "mount" ?
[02:38] <trev_> factboy818181: i think the same thing is happening to me, mabey they'll know in #winehq
[02:38] <Dot> is it like beryl
[02:38] <metguru> with what suffix
[02:38] <Dot> like
[02:38] <pschulz01> Hello.. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a settop box with 'Via CentaurHauls' processor. Installation of 6.06.1-alternative fails on linux-restricted-modules package. The following bug may be related: Bug 59338
[02:38] <lixu> Riyonuk: xfce, kde
[02:38] <Dot> vista
[02:38] <metguru> or option
[02:38] <Dot> or what
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> Dot: Similar effect, with the spinny cube, but not nearly as well-implemented.
[02:39] <Riyonuk> xfce doesnt look all that great
[02:39] <Dot> ic
[02:39] <adaptr> metguru: re-read
[02:39] <Dot> k
[02:39] <gorbulas> i'm having trouble getting my wireless working (broadcom miniPCi BCM4318) working on my laptop, running 6.10 (fresh install), i've followed the guides on the net, and have managed to get the wireless light to steadily blink at a frequency of about 1 Hz, the light is normally on all the time in windows. I was wondering if you guys have heard of this before and know how to get it working properly? thanks
[02:39] <Dot> cus i installed it with synaptic
[02:39] <Dot> and it doesnet seem to do mutch
[02:39] <Dot> i mean
[02:39] <markoutthere> Hey all, does anyone know of a failrly user friendly program I can install on Ubuntu to create a map diagram of a network?>?
[02:39] <factboy818181> trev_: ok, thanks
[02:39] <Dot> i dont know how to use it
[02:39] <red> Siph0n: i dont see the connect button!
[02:39] <`rich> gorbulas, have you given it the wep key/ssid settings etc?
[02:39] <adaptr> markoutthere: etherape ?
[02:39] <lixu> Riyonuk:mybe try using metacity
[02:39] <metguru> sorry
[02:39] <pschulz01> markoutthere: Try 'dia'
[02:39] <metguru> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:39] <metguru> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:39] <metguru> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:39] <metguru> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[02:39] <metguru> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[02:39] <metguru> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[02:39] <metguru> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[02:39] <gorbulas> yea i have, several times in the network tools from the system manager
[02:39] <red> Siph0n: i dont see the connect button! i see a disconnect button but no connect button
[02:40] <metguru> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[02:40] <Dot> so how do i use 3ddesk
[02:40] <lixu> Riyonuk: or fluxbox
[02:40] <metguru> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[02:40] <adaptr> metguru: don't be sorry, be determined !
[02:40] <IdleOne> Riyonuk,  if you have a fast enough machine try using KDE sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop I believe
[02:40] <metguru> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/hda1 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/hda1 on /mnt/media/hda1 type ext3 (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/sdb1 on /media/My Book type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=0,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/hda2 on /media/hda1 type ext3 (rw)
[02:40] <Riyonuk> no no
[02:40] <metguru> arrgh, ooops
[02:40] <arrenlex> !paste | metguru
[02:40] <Dot> hmm
[02:40] <ubotu> metguru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel.  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:41] <Dot> does anyone know how i use 3ddesk
[02:41] <red> Siph0n: i see several networks listed
[02:41] <`rich> that said, i love the way that people think nobody is here unless they're talking directly to them ...
[02:41] <jitesh> i am new bie to this world of linux
[02:41] <Hansel> Dot - use beryl instead... WAY better.  :)
[02:41] <adaptr> Dot: 250 SMTP ready
[02:41] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, fluxbox xfce icewm e17
[02:41] <jitesh> and wanna know how to play mp3 and avi in linux
[02:41] <metguru> i didn't know it would send on different lines
[02:41] <jitesh> can anyone hlep?
[02:41] <jvai> xyz, yes, u said, how do u get notifications on messages?, did u mean privately? or on the board here?
[02:41] <cod1> Is there anyone out there that can help me get wireless running?
[02:41] <IdleOne> !mp3 | jitesh
[02:41] <ubotu> jitesh: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:42] <adaptr> metguru: well, yeah - that's the thing with lines.. only one will fit on one line
[02:42] <Hansel> jitesh - mplayer...
[02:42] <`rich> Is there a wireless macro? Seems a popular question heh
[02:42] <metguru> so theres like 3 'hda1's on the list, and i don't understand what is what
[02:42] <jitesh> thanks buddy
[02:42] <Dot> sorry
[02:42] <cod1> `rich, I still can't seem to get it working
[02:42] <Mastastealth> cod1: wuts the prob?
[02:42] <adaptr> metguru: if you affix a person's nick to a message, that person will know you're talking to them, not to the whole channel
[02:42] <Dot> but every time i install beryl i destroy my xserver
[02:43] <jvai> xyz, i answerded that question years ago, i reconnected like a thousand tymes
[02:43] <Dot> i have tried 6 times
[02:43] <jvai> since then
[02:43] <Hansel> Dot - which video card do you have?
[02:43] <kb1ibt> is there a bug in the version of wpa_supplicant that comes with edgy because it says it can't parse my conf file when i have the following uncommented: #ctrl_interface_group=wheel
[02:43] <Dot> s3 savage
[02:43] <Dot> supersavage
[02:43] <Hansel> hrrmmm... probably too old to do beryl.
[02:43] <Dot> it has 3d support
[02:43] <metguru> adaptr: ok
[02:43] <Dot> im trying to figure that out rite now
[02:43] <adaptr> metguru: excellent !
[02:43] <`rich> G'night all
[02:44] <Hansel> Dot - well 3ddesk will work but it looks like hell.
[02:44] <Riyonuk> OMG icewm is horrible >_<
[02:44] <adaptr> Dot: that sounds like a horrible card.. way too old to do beryl
[02:44] <metguru> adaptr: ha, ill have it on clipboard from now on
[02:44] <Dot> it has drm or whatever its called