[00:00] <workspace> that's a good idea.
[00:00] <dmhouse> Nope, the GTK+ widget style definitely isn't persisting between sessions. Any idea how to fix this?
[00:09] <vit> hola
[00:09] <workspace> ok setup is going well. just like an old,old unix shell.
[00:10] <apparle> in apt-get the autoremove does purging or removing
[00:10] <Typos_King> .... can't say hehe
[00:11] <vit> MARY
[00:12] <MARYCARMEN> HOLA
[00:13] <dmhouse> Hmm. When I change the GTK style in GTK+ Appearance in kcm, it writes a file ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4, whose contents look sensible. However this file gets deleted when I log out and log back in again, causing the style not to persist
[00:13] <Typos_King> apparle:   based on the man pages, it just does a 'remove'
[00:13] <apparle> Typos_King: so there must be an autopurge also?
[00:14] <Typos_King> there is't one
[00:14] <Typos_King> I just saw an 'autoclean'
[00:15] <Typos_King> which just flushes the .deb in the archives
[00:15] <ncfi1013_> !ipod
[00:23] <ncfi1013_> i am having problems putting songs on my ipod
[00:34] <workspace> endless installing of random stuff.
[00:34] <workspace> fun, fun.
[00:43] <mamefan> where can I get some help with kopete?
[00:47] <Typos_King> mamefan:   sorry, I don't use it
[00:47] <Typos_King> mamefan:  maybe there's a kopete channel though
[00:58] <rww> Is there a webcam program (like Cheese for GTK) for Kubuntu?
[01:02] <Squidy_> here there.. are there other mirrors that I can download the release candidate of 10.04? The main link is too slow here...
[01:04] <Typos_King> why not just wait 3 more days? :P
[01:04] <Typos_King>  and get the full-monty
[01:04] <Typos_King> 2 days rather
[01:05] <Squidy_> Typos_King: heh.. I think the RC will be the final release.. or not?
[01:06] <Typos_King> 2 days?   are you going to die in 2days?  :P
[01:07] <Squidy_> Typos_King: I don't Know.. anybody knows about that.. :-P
[01:08] <near> hey
[01:09] <ncfi1013_> man ive tried everything. can someone please tell me a very easy simple way to sync my ipod?
[01:10] <ncfi1013_>  all im hearing is that ipod support in linux is a cinch but im having no luck. can somebody please help me?
[01:10] <ncfi1013_>  i know u guys dont want to hear this but i am seriously considering switching back to windows considering the problems ive been havin
[01:11] <Typos_King> ncfi1013_:    not having an ipod myself.. hehhe, can't say much, I do have an mp3 player, a few minutes ago I move around some files and added some, with np ^_^
[01:23] <ling> v
[01:40] <eradiate> hi guys, i have kbuntu installed but am having a hard time trying to find out where the iptable rules are saved
[01:40] <eradiate> any hints?
[01:44] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:44] <Typos_King> iptable rules are can't say.... I've bothered... you can use something like ..
[01:44] <Typos_King> !firewall
[01:45] <Typos_King> ^
[01:45] <Typos_King> there's also a Kmyfirewall too
[01:45] <Typos_King> guarddog interface isn't so bad either
[01:55] <eradiate> yeah i don't know but at some stage during the start up the rules are getting added
[01:55] <eradiate> ufw isn't enabled
[01:55] <eradiate> and i'm not using any other fw mgmt tools
[01:55] <eradiate> at least i don't think
[01:56] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:57] <Typos_King> eradiate:     I never checked where the rules are stored, but the firewalling in linux is built-in the kernel, is not a separate app or anything
[01:58] <eradiate> Typos_King: well netfilter is built into the kernel, but the iptable rules that gets loaded has to be somewhere right
[01:59] <Typos_King> yeah
[01:59] <eradiate> and everytime i reboot, the rules automagically gets loaded
[01:59] <eradiate> but eehhhhh i'm not sure where
[02:01] <eradiate> anyone here familiar with kvm
[02:01] <avihay> I've used KVM  a bit, got tired of it, and started useing openbox
[02:02] <avihay> err,, virtualbox
[02:03] <Erod> Just put your rules in a script and load that on startup?
[02:04] <eradiate> i can .. but i'm bothered by why i can't find the one that it's using to load itup
[02:04] <eradiate> i mean by default does kubuntu come with a preset of rules ?
[02:04] <eradiate> defined somewhere
[02:06] <fortunev> After upgrading to Lucid, my ctrl capslock swap is not working from Regional Settings. Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:07] <Erod> Everything is allowed by default I think. So no specific rules would be used.
[02:07] <Sick0fMyself> helo
[02:07] <fortunev> hlo Sicko
[02:07] <Sick0fMyself> helo there
[02:08] <Sick0fMyself> im new in this channel
[02:08] <Sick0fMyself> its nice to be here
[02:08] <fortunev> but aweful to be you :)
[02:09] <dardiolprimechoo> PRIME!
[02:09] <Sick0fMyself> yup
[02:09] <Sick0fMyself> i know its sad
[02:10] <fortunev> about the ctrl capslock swap, the check box is selected to do this, but it does not seem to be working.
[02:11] <fortunev> Sick0fMyself: The good news is that as soon as you change channels, you can be someone else!!!
[02:11] <fortunev> someone less sickening
[02:12] <dardiolprimechoo> PRIME!
[02:13] <fortunev> but you better register on freenode first!
[02:13] <fortunev> your other self that is.
[02:14] <fortunev> ...anyway, any clues as to why the CTRL Capslock swap is not working. Could this be a bug. Could someone try this to see if they can do it on their system?
[02:34] <Guest60262> ?
[02:35] <Guest60262> alguem ae?
[02:44] <Teknical> can anyone tell me how to change the bright pink clicked link color in konqueror?
[02:47] <terabreaker> Hay, does anyone have Limewire install on the Kubuntu 10.04 LTS RC?
[02:49] <Pici> terabreaker : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[02:49] <terabreaker> Oh okay
[02:49] <fortunev> Would anyone be willing to help me verify a bug?
[02:50] <txwikinger> !ask | fortunev
[02:51] <Teknical> can anyone tell me how to change the bright pink clicked link color in konqueror?
[02:53] <fortunev> I would like to test if the Ctrl Caps Lock swap is working in 10.04. It seems to be broken on my install. Has anyone gotten this to work on their 10.04?
[02:53] <txwikinger> Teknical: you can create a different stylesheet and configure it under appearance
[02:53] <Squidy_> hey there.. after a upgrade to lucid, the opengl + intel stopped to work.. the composite only work (half) with XRender..
[02:53] <Squidy_> is there any bug in mesa 7.7.1 with intel gpu?
[02:54] <txwikinger> fortunev: ctrl caps lock swap?
[02:54] <txwikinger> Squidy_: Did you search on LP for such a bug?
[02:56] <Squidy_> txwikinger: i`ve searched.. but I haven't found...
[02:56] <fortunev> txwikinger: Under Settings > Regional Settings > Keyboard > Advanced Tab. There is an option to swap the Caps Lock Key and the Ctrl key. It seems to be broken on my install, but was hoping someone else could give it a shot.
[02:59] <txwikinger> Don't see the ctrl caps swap... but the esc caps swap works
[03:00] <phil> hey
[03:00] <phil> can someone answer a flash question with my video card
[03:00] <phil> when i play a youtube video its really choppy
[03:00] <phil> i have the driver installed [recommended] in hardware drivers
[03:00] <phil> any one know why it would still be choppy??
[03:00] <FloodBotK2> phil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <fortunev> txwikinger: Its way down under "-Ctrl key position"
[03:00] <phil> sorry
[03:01] <phil> can someome whisper me whos really smart with video drivers
[03:01] <phil> i have a question
[03:01] <fortunev> phil: The irc god is gona roast you
[03:02] <phil> oo
[03:02] <phil> thats bad :P
[03:02] <fortunev> Just ask
[03:02] <phil> k when i play videos it lags and is really choppy
[03:02] <fortunev> phil: cause it takes one to know one :)
[03:02] <phil> i have the recomended driver installed
[03:02] <phil> and it still is choppy
[03:02] <phil> kubuntu 9.04
[03:02] <phil> any ideas?
[03:03] <txwikinger> fortunev: works
[03:03] <txwikinger> check the system monitor
[03:03] <phil> and look for what ?
[03:04] <txwikinger> might be cpu shortage, memory or i/o
[03:04] <phil> i have a 2.53 ghz and 1.5 gb ram
[03:04] <fortunev> txwikinger: Arrrgggg.... thanks.
[03:04] <txwikinger> well.. how much other stuff are you running
[03:04] <phil> kopete and kde wallet :P
[03:05] <txwikinger> do you play the video from dvd?
[03:05] <phil> youtube
[03:05] <phil> and nhl.com
[03:06] <txwikinger> well.. that could be latencies in the network also
[03:06] <phil> yeah
[03:06] <txwikinger> specially nhl should be overloaded atm
[03:06] <phil> my XPlaptop works no lag tho : /
[03:06] <txwikinger> ok
[03:07] <txwikinger> well.. I would look at the system monitoring
[03:07] <txwikinger> maybe you see something hogging too much resources
[03:11] <phil> gah sorry
[03:11] <phil> plasma is taking %
[03:11] <phil> 100
[03:13] <phil> any ideas lol
[03:14] <txwikinger> well.. that seems to be the issue
[03:15] <phil> i ended it and my whole screen went black :)
[03:15] <txwikinger> well.. plasma runs the desktop
[03:16] <phil> yeah :P
[03:16] <phil> surprisingly kubuntu uses more ram and stuff then my ubuntu did :P
[03:16] <phil> yeah i cant even click the goals
[03:17] <phil> on nhl
[03:22] <phil> so how do i find out why plasma is taking up 100%
[03:36] <Sa[i]nT> how do you make your grub show in 10.04?
[03:37] <rww> Sa[i]nT: hold down shift
[03:37] <rww> Sa[i]nT: and btw, Lucid/10.04 discussion and support goes in #ubuntu+1, even for Kubuntu 10.04.
[03:38] <Sa[i]nT> all i needed to know was how to show my grub
[03:39] <Sa[i]nT> and it wrked and fixed my problem
[04:06] <williballenthin> how can i block the notifications by kopete for when my contacts log in and out, yet retain the new message notifications?
[04:06] <williballenthin> im on kubuntu 10.04 RC, btw
[04:29] <Guest77692> anyone know how to fix a broken package source in ubuntu?
[05:18] <demism> is there a way to convert ubuntu into debian through repos and other means?
[05:21] <claydoh> demism: not really, iirc. there are just enough differences to make it a lot of trouble
[05:42] <askhader> My system only seems to be able to find my root filesystem one in every four or five boots. Any ideas why this is?
[05:43] <Guest38142> thinking...
[05:44] <Guest38142> not sure
[05:55] <vivek_> Hii all.. what is this nepomuk stuff all about.. have googled a lot about it... read lot of articles but just dont seem to understand ,all I get to know is that it makes searching easier on your computer.. but then was searching for something on your system ever tough
[06:23] <vivek_> Hii all.. what is this nepomuk stuff all about.. have googled a lot about it... read lot of articles but just dont seem to understand ,all I get to know is that it makes searching easier on your computer.. but then was searching for something on your system ever tough
[06:37] <Mamarok> vivek_: it allows you to search by tags, not only file names and content
[06:37] <Mamarok> !nepomuk
[06:38] <Mamarok> hm...
[06:38] <vivek_> Mamarok:looks like Ubottu is confused as well
[06:38] <Mamarok> well, it just has no factoid so far
[06:38] <Mamarok> vivek_: look for it on http://userbase.kde.org, the only reliable source for all things KDE
[06:40] <vivek_> I am just enabling strigi .. and thus nepomuk and I seem to realise that it  is actually heavy on resources... searching by tags I mean is that not tough that I have top create tags as well for evry file now ehile saving it Mamarok:
[06:41] <Mamarok> yes, since it has to create an index and takes /home/username as default folder. You can teweak it in the SystemSettings -> Advanced tab -> desktop search, though
[06:41] <Mamarok> but it needs several GB for the index
[06:41] <Mamarok> if you don't need tags on files, just don't activate it, then
[06:42] <Mamarok> since the default search in Dolphin an look for filenames and text content
[06:42] <Mamarok> can*
[06:42]  * Mamarok has to run
[06:42] <vivek_> Several GB( well I have 225GB of hard disk and 2GB RAM) ...!
[06:42] <vivek_> bye Mamarok:
[06:42] <vivek_> thanks
[06:42] <Mamarok> vivek_: you are welcome :)
[06:43] <vivek_> does anyone else out there knows a little more
[07:29] <eamon> any helpers out there. i cant seem to mount my second hdd in terminal,
[07:31] <eamon> ?
[07:31] <eamon> mount /dev/sdb /new    dosnt seem to work
[07:33] <eamon> i get error message "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[07:33] <eamon> but when i put in the command and a file system type it just prints out lots of mount options
[07:34] <pucko-> eamon, use the -t option (as in -t ext3
[07:34] <eamon> yeah iv tried it just spit out mount options
[07:34] <pucko-> eamon, but I suspect you just forgot to specify a number after /dev/sdb
[07:38] <pucko-> just do a sudo parted /dev/sdb print to find out
[07:39] <eamon_>  my system hdd is /dev/sda  and /dev/sdb is my storage hdd
[07:39] <eamon_> dows that sound right?
[07:39] <pucko-> you don't really mount the drives. you mount the partitions on the drives
[07:40] <iconmefisto> if you want to be really picky, you mount the filesystems on the partitions :)
[07:41] <pucko-> I guess so :-)
[07:41] <eamon_> well i cant seem to mount anything at the moment.
[07:56] <andrey__> hello
[07:58] <andrey__> есть кто живой
[08:03] <andrey__> че ето за хуйня
[08:03] <sinanka> hi
[08:04] <andrey__> sinanka hi
[08:04] <andrey__> Who is Russia???
[08:05] <rww> ubottu: ru | andrey__
[08:06] <andrey__> fack you!!!!
[08:18] <zarlink> what`s new
[08:22] <yzen33> s
[08:24] <Timsen> hi, I run 10.04 now (fresh install) if I add a shortcut to start an app (adding via menu editor) kde does not react if I press this key combo to start the app then - how can I debug the reason?
[09:11] <Timsen> Hi, after a default 10.04 install I have 24 locales (locale -a) I would like to reduce to my two main locales, how can I remove the other locales?
[09:12] <moetunes> !info locale-purge
[09:12] <moetunes> bahh /msg ubottu
[09:13] <SuN__> I can not log gives me a black screen and reboot ... how to help me reinstall
[09:13] <SuN__> kubuntu 10.04rc1  help
[09:13] <Timsen> @moetunes you had a typo I found localepurge in repo - I will check this
[09:14] <moetunes> that's what I was looking for Timsen ...
[09:15] <moetunes> SuN__: you were told in #ubuntu you need to ask that in the channel for 10.04 - type /j #ubuntu+1
[09:19] <Neil_Haskins> I can't start KDE. Splash screen comes up, hard drive icon fades in, then it freezes before "tools" icon fades in. I think it may be something to do with my user settings that's broken, but I don't know what to look for. What can I look for to troubleshoot?
[09:19] <Neil_Haskins> I'll describe how the problem started in pastebin
[09:19] <Neil_Haskins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/423238/
[09:21] <Timsen> Neil_Haskins is it is user based - have you tried to rename your home folder in /home/ and to login in with a new created folder?
[09:21] <Timsen> -is +if
[09:22] <Neil_Haskins> How would that work? This is my first day "really" using linux :)
[09:23] <Timsen> if you are at the login manager you can switch to a virtual terminal via strg+alt+f1 - there you can login and from there you can rename the home folder via console
[09:23] <Neil_Haskins> I kind find the rename command I'm sure, but I don't understand what you mean by login with a new folder
[09:24] <Neil_Haskins> strg?
[09:24] <Timsen> if you try to login kde check if there is already a folder /home/neil (for example) if not kde creates a new one
[09:24] <Timsen> strg=ctrl
[09:25] <Neil_Haskins> so I need to create a new folder in home with my username?
[09:25] <SorryKnowledgeLe> Where is the apt repository for KDE (Ubuntu) packages?
[09:26] <moetunes> just rename ~/.kde to ~/kde-old Neil_Haskins
[09:26] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:27] <SorryKnowledgeLe> moetunes: thanks, but i mean on the Internet.  Where do I retrieve from?  "deb" line in sources.list.
[09:27] <moetunes> o
[09:27] <SorryKnowledgeLe> I have archive.ubuntu.com , but I suspect that Kubuntu packages are missing, along with kdevelop
[09:28] <moetunes> one min
[09:29] <SorryKnowledgeLe> Or instead of telling me, put it in the wiki. :)
[09:30] <SuN__> I can not log gives me a black screen and reboot ... how to help me reinstall
[09:33] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: I just have the ubuntu repos - that includes xubuntu and kubuntu stuff - have you enabled the extra repos?
[09:33] <moetunes> !universe
[09:33] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: ^^
[09:34] <SorryKnowledgeLe> moetunes: you installed kubuntu from image?  I have enabled: lucid main universe multiverse restricted
[09:34] <SorryKnowledgeLe> maybe kdevelop just does not exist yet
[09:34] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: yep -  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:34] <moetunes> maybe
[09:35] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: is it just kdevelop that's missing?
[09:37] <Neil_Haskins> ~/.kde is in the root folder? or where? @ moetunes
[09:38] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: the   ~   means your home folder -    ls -a   will show it
[09:38] <SuN__> recovery kubuntu desktop fix form cd ?
[09:39] <SorryKnowledgeLe> moetunes: KDE language internationalization is also missing: kde-l10n .  I see these things still because I am looking at dependencies.  Dependencies of kde-devel right now.
[09:39] <Hazamonzo> hey folks. is there a way i can map a remote drive as a local one over ssh?
[09:39] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: done an apt-get update lately?
[09:40] <Hazamonzo> I want to be able to use a local IDE to edit files on a remote server
[09:40] <SorryKnowledgeLe> moetunes: yes.
[09:40] <moetunes> k
[09:40] <Hazamonzo> i can use fish:// in dolphin to edit files i load from dolphin
[09:40] <Hazamonzo> but i can't access these files in third party tools
[09:42] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: try an   apt-cache search kde-l10n   it be in another package
[09:42] <moetunes> *might
[09:43] <SorryKnowledgeLe> Hazamonzo: an network based FS.  There are many. NFS is common.
[09:43] <SorryKnowledgeLe> Hazamonzo: or if they should be version controlled, a version control system.
[09:44] <Hazamonzo> SorryKnowledgeLe: Okay. Im not fussed about the version control at the moment. I just need to map this remote drive. I'll look inti the first solution NFS
[09:45] <SorryKnowledgeLe> moetunes: i see many matches for what you wrote. Perhaps kdevelop is not available for lucid.
[09:45] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: try an   apt-cache search kdevelop   maybe
[09:46] <SorryKnowledgeLe> moetunes: no match for me.  Do you get a match when you do that?
[09:46] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: yep but I'm not on lucid
[09:46] <Neil_Haskins> from in my home folder I ran "rename .kde kde-old" and I got
[09:46] <Neil_Haskins> syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "."  @ moetunes
[09:47] <moetunes> SorryKnowledgeLe: somene in #ubuntu+1 might know
[09:47] <SorryKnowledgeLe> moetunes: once  again, thanks.
[09:47] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: from what command pls?
[09:48] <moetunes> k np :]
[09:49] <Neil_Haskins> as in "haskins@jean-luc:~$" @ moetunes
[09:49] <Neil_Haskins> haskins = user, jean-luc = computer
[09:51] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: that's your prompt - how did you get that error?
[09:53] <Neil_Haskins> I typed the command "rename .kde kde-old" and in response I got   syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "."   @ moetunes
[09:54] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: try   rename ./.kde ./.kde-old
[09:55] <Neil_Haskins> OK, returned  "search pattern not terminated at (eval 1), line 1." @moetunes
[09:56] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: try   mv -v ./.kde ./.kde-old
[09:56] <moetunes> I don't use rename ...
[09:58] <Neil_Haskins> looks to have worked        './.kde'  ->  './.kde-old'
[09:58] <Neil_Haskins> now can I run startx        @ moetunes
[09:58] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: try   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:02] <Neil_Haskins> offered an alternate way to restart, but last line returned was "kdm start/running, process 1489" now what? @ moetunes
[10:02] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: what was the alternative?
[10:06] <Neil_Haskins> rather than invoking inti scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service kdm restart
[10:06] <Neil_Haskins> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart kdm
[10:06] <Neil_Haskins> kdm start/running, process 1489        @ moetunes
[10:06] <Neil_Haskins> inti = init
[10:06] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: then   sudo service kdm restart
[10:07] <Neil_Haskins> restart: Unknown instance:              @ moetunes
[10:08] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: then try   sudo service kdm stop   and   sudo service kdm start   maybe
[10:11] <Neil_Haskins> stop: Unknown instance:
[10:11] <Neil_Haskins> then after "sudo service kdm start"
[10:11] <Neil_Haskins> kdm start/running, process 1533         @ moetunes
[10:11] <Neil_Haskins> thanks for your help, btw
[10:12] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: happy for you :]
[10:12] <Neil_Haskins> So we're clear though, I'm still at a command prompt :)
[10:12] <moetunes> o
[10:13] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: try alt+f7
[10:14] <Neil_Haskins> no response @ moetunes
[10:14] <vivek_> Hii since yesterday I am getting this message whenever i switch on my system "the audio playback device HDA Intel(ALC888 Analog) does not work. Falling back to HDA Intel(ALC888 Digital).. Does anyone have a clue
[10:15] <moetunes> Neil_Haskins: time to try   startx
[10:16] <vivek_> iconmefisto:Hii
[10:17] <Neil_Haskins> just did :) WORKS <jubilation/> Thanks for your help and your time, I really appreciate it.   @ moetunes
[10:17] <moetunes> luck Neil_Haskins :]
[10:17] <vivek_> moetunes: help me too :-)
[10:18] <moetunes> vivek_: I know nothing about hd sound sorry
[10:18] <vivek_> hmmm someone please help
[10:40] <Neil_Haskins> tried to sned another email and had to do the same thing all over again (took 5 minutes instead of 6 hours this time). I'm gonna stick to webmail for awhile. Goodnight :)
[11:44] <ubuntu> hi
[11:48] <terran4000> Hi!
[11:48]  * terran4000 listens to the tumbleweeds
[11:55] <ubuntu> who is pussy here?
[12:39] <Guest30480> hi
[12:41] <tim> hi
[13:01] <amichair> what is the kubuntu equivalent of windows charmap or ubuntu character map?
[13:09] <shadeslayer> amichair: um theres a plasmoid
[13:09] <shadeslayer> amichair: in kde 4.4.2 its called character selector
[13:11] <amichair> shadeslayer: thanks, but it doesn't quite do what I need (no unicode, can't search, etc.)
[13:11] <shadeslayer> amichair: ah well..
[13:12] <amichair> shadeslayer: and being a plasmoid makes it pretty inconvenient... I wouldn't want it there all the time, only for short lookups while working in other windows... but that's a different matter :-)
[13:13] <shadeslayer> amichair: hehe.. well i have gnome installed as well,so when i type charmap i get the gnome app
[13:13] <amichair> shadeslayer: but thanks anyway. for now google is an ok workaround :-)
[13:13] <shadeslayer> cant find a kde specific app in the repos
[13:13] <shadeslayer> amichair: hehe :)
[13:22] <jorgino_> hi
[13:22] <schwuli> halooo
[14:28] <dmhouse> Hi guys. I'm having trouble with setting widget styles for GTK applications in KDE (installed on top of Ubuntu 9.10). I go in through the System Settings, Appearance, GTK+ Appearance, and select a widget style. Only problem is, this isn't actually applied and it doesn't persist between sessions.
[14:29] <dmhouse> Clicking 'apply' in that dialogue box does seem to create a ~/.gtkrc-2.0-lde4, but it's not used
[14:29] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: youll have to refresh the cache and restart the app
[14:29] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: refresh cache with : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
[14:30] <dmhouse> shadeslayer: that doesn't change anything
[14:31] <dmhouse> Moreover, the settings are forgotten when I log out and back in again
[14:31] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: no idea then :(
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:33] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: Hey :)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> hi shadeslayer :)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> I was lectured for not recommending kdesudo usage for graphical app installation the other day , some thing to do with boot authentication of X and some graphics drivers , I think. shadeslayer have you heard anything about this ?
[14:43] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: nope...
[14:43] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: you might get more info at #kubuntu-devel
[14:43] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, apparently this issue has been around since jaunty
[14:43] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: is was about not recommending "sudo", not "kdesudo"
[14:44] <tsimpson> kdesudo fixes those issues with GUI apps
[14:44] <shadeslayer> well like tsimpson is saying, use kdesudo for graphical apps and sudo for commands
[14:44] <tsimpson> sudo does not change $HOME by default, and does not setup the X env
[14:44] <tsimpson> kdesudo does all that for you
[14:45] <tsimpson> it's not just a pretty GUI, KDE has that already
[14:46] <ubuntu_> help me !
[14:46] <ubuntu_> Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory
[14:46] <ubuntu_> ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory
[14:46] <ubuntu_> ???
[14:46] <FloodBotK3> ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <dmhouse> Okay, next question. I can't get the network manager applet to connect to my wireless network. I'm sure I'm putting all the details in correctly but it gets forever stuck at the 'Activating' stage. Nothing is shown in dmesg either.
[14:48] <Landgraf> check routes
[14:48] <dmhouse> Well, it gets stuck for a while then asks me for the password. I enter it and it goes back to 'Activating'
[14:48] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: this is directly from kde upstream : Switch to plasma-widget-networkmanager
[14:48] <shadeslayer> although it still is in development,its pretty good at managing networks now,atleast better than kde-networkmanager
[14:48] <dmhouse> shadeslayer: you mean plasma-widget-networkmanagement? That's what I'm using
[14:48] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: yeah :)
[14:49] <dmhouse> I can also connect under GNOME just fine.
[14:49] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: oh.. well
[14:49] <dmhouse> Landgraf: how do I do that?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, well, what's the alternative then ?
[14:49] <Landgraf> dmhouse: 1 moment
[14:50] <dmhouse> Landgraf: all the routes listed when I run "sudo route" are for eth0
[14:50] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: for GUI apps, kdesudo
[14:50] <tsimpson> there's nothing stopping you from running CLI apps with it too btw
[14:50] <tsimpson> unless you have no X running
[14:50] <shadeslayer> hehe..
[14:50] <dmhouse> shadeslayer: perhaps I'll try kde-networkmanager :)
[14:50] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: \o/
[14:50] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: well whatever works best :P
[14:51] <Landgraf> dmhouse: route -n
[14:51] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, that's what I meant ...installing with kdesudo in the cli , rather than sudo
[14:51] <dmhouse> shadeslayer: hmm, no package for that in apt
[14:51] <dmhouse> Landgraf: same table. They're all for eth0.
[14:51] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: network-manager-kde
[14:52] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: if you aren't running a GUI app, you don't need kdesudo
[14:52] <dmhouse> shadeslayer: nope... there is a kwlan though
[14:52] <Landgraf> dmhouse: try "sudo pon <your tonnel name>"
[14:52] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, uhmm yeah
[14:53] <shadeslayer> dmhouse: wth...
[14:53] <shadeslayer> !find network-manager-kde
[14:53] <shadeslayer> dmhouse:  oh i get it.. im on lucid :P
[14:53] <dmhouse> Landgraf: my "tonnel name?"
[14:54] <dmhouse> You mean the SSID of the wireless network?
[14:54] <Landgraf> dmhouse: ops, i tune without GUI, i named tonnel
[14:55] <Landgraf> dmhouse: for you: write vpn name
[14:55] <dmhouse> Landgraf: I don't know what you men
[14:55] <dmhouse> *mean
[14:56] <terran4000> Hey, how do you delete a menu item?
[14:57] <Landgraf> dmhouse: mayby you do it  without GUI?
[14:57] <dmhouse> Landgraf: do what without GUI?
[14:58] <Landgraf> dmhouse: writing in config files
[14:58] <Landgraf> i have manual
[14:58] <dmhouse> Erm, sure, but what do I need to actually do?
[14:58] <Landgraf> what of your protocol: pptp or pppoe?
[14:58] <dmhouse> I don't know
[14:59] <Landgraf> first you must know it
[14:59] <dmhouse> Okay, how do I find it out?
[14:59] <Landgraf> and more 1 moment
[15:00] <dmhouse> Are you sure all this is necessary though? I mean, it works under GNOME and nothing is shown in dmesg when I try to connect, which makes it sound to me like it's a problem at the KDE level
[15:00] <Landgraf> probably
[15:04] <Landgraf> dmhouse: you don't have network manager applet to connect to wireless network? You need applet?
[15:06] <dmhouse> Landgraf: yes, I do have that applet.
[15:08] <Landgraf> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager
[15:10] <Landgraf> try to search The wireless_tools package
[15:10] <Landgraf> at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:10] <dmhouse> I have that package installed
[15:11] <Landgraf> more http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_Setup
[15:12] <Landgraf> and madwifi?
[15:13] <pc09> wenas
[15:17] <frany> I have been using fstab entries to manually mount external drives so far, but with lucid this no longer seems to work (refuses to boot, when devices with fstab-entries are not found or cannot be mounted at boot-time). The new kde system seems to allocate mount points according to the mounting precedence. Now, how can I connect a chosen mountpoint with a certain device?
[15:58] <calumayoo> hello
[16:00] <vivek_> Hii guys what is that special thing about lucid. Of course it uses KDE 4.4.2, which I have already upgraded to. The ubuntu music store(yes that is great) and the memenu. Could all these not just be passed on as normal upgrades or just put up there in the software centre , so that anyone who needed it could install these from there.
[16:02] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: well these were some of the new 'Features' of k/ubuntu,we also have new branding and plymouth,with newer apps ,etc
[16:02] <calumayoo> hello
[16:02] <calumayoo> can i ask for some help?
[16:03] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: and new patches for the installer,the new slideshow in ubiquity-kde
[16:03] <shadeslayer_> calumayoo: sure
[16:03] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: then theres the LTS tag,which ensures minimal bugs
[16:04] <calumayoo> i cant seem to play videos with kubuntu
[16:04] <shadeslayer_> calumayoo: have you installed the codecs?
[16:04] <shadeslayer_> !mp3 | calumayoo
[16:05] <vivek_> shadeslayer: well branding,plymouth, slideshow in ubiquity ..... see I am in love with Kubuntu and am eagerly looking forward to 10.04 .. but then I fail to understand here what is that thing which makes it stand out from 9.10
[16:06] <vivek_> calumayoo: have you installed the restricted extras of kubuntu and what format are you trying to run
[16:06] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: newer packages built specifically for 10.04
[16:06] <calumayoo> well, something pop ups
[16:06] <calumayoo> its an update notifier
[16:06] <shadeslayer_> calumayoo: :)
[16:06] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: 4.4.2 is optimized for lucid...
[16:07] <shadeslayer_> whereas karmic has 4.3 by default as the optimized version,newer kernels too
[16:07] <calumayoo> im trying to install them but every time is click install selected, its says that they've been installed already
[16:07] <calumayoo> oh well ill try again
[16:08] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: also 10.04 can be installed by upgrading karmic ( 9.10 )...
[16:08] <vivek_> shadeslayer_: well let us see  on 29th and yes I sure am thankful to all those ppl who give us this gift every 6 months
[16:08] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: :D
[16:09] <calumayoo> shadeslayer im a bit confused.
[16:09] <vivek_> calumayoo: what is the file you are trying to run
[16:09] <vivek_> calumayoo: is it avi or what
[16:09] <shadeslayer_> calumayoo: ive gtg sorry.. other people can help :)
[16:09] <calumayoo> its avi
[16:09] <calumayoo> okay
[16:09] <calumayoo> thanks anyway
[16:10] <vivek_> calumayoo: are you using karmic 9.10
[16:10] <vivek_> calumayoo: or something else
[16:10] <calumayoo> sorry. im not still familiar with the terms...
[16:10] <vivek_> calumayoo:when did you install kubuntu on your system
[16:10] <calumayoo> just now :)
[16:11] <vivek_> ok calumayoo: now do one thing just open a terminal first
[16:11] <vivek_> do you know how to open a terminal
[16:11] <calumayoo> okay
[16:11] <calumayoo> yes
[16:12] <calumayoo> i have tried linux mint already
[16:12] <vivek_> have you opened it
[16:12] <calumayoo> yes
[16:12] <vivek_> now type sudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:13] <vivek_> which version of kubuntu are you using
[16:13] <vivek_> calumayoo:done?
[16:14] <calumayoo> invalid operation
[16:14] <vivek_> wait ok you said that you installed kubuntu just now right?
[16:14] <vivek_> after that have you done anything in the terminal till now
[16:14] <calumayoo> not yet
[16:14] <vivek_> ok great
[16:15] <vivek_> now can you tell me which version of kubuntu are you using
[16:15] <shadeslayer_> vivek_: youre missing install there,and you need to enable multiverse and universe
[16:15] <vivek_> yes shadeslayer_:
[16:15] <calumayoo> wait
[16:15] <calumayoo> ill check the cd
[16:15] <vivek_> but let me first make him upgrade the thing using sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:16] <vivek_> calumayoo:what is written on the cd
[16:16] <calumayoo> 9.10
[16:16] <calumayoo> i386
[16:17] <vivek_> ok you could actually have waited for 2 days we have a new verion coming up in 2 days :-)..anyways.. just do sudo apt-get upgrade on your terminal
[16:18] <dXp> sorry, but exists kubuntu ru chat?
[16:18] <calumayoo> how do i do this thing in the gui?
[16:19] <vivek_> shadeslayer_:my kde4.4.2 runs great with 9.10... in fact they say nepomuk is by deafuklt enabled in 10.04 ... believe me it is a headache
[16:19] <vivek_> calumayoo: you can use the gui later.. first kindly do sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:19] <dXp> есть кто русский тут?)))) сори за оф топ
[16:19] <calumayoo> im doing it now
[16:20] <calumayoo> dl speed is slow
[16:22] <vivek_> it will take enough time if your download speed is slow.. after installing any version , the first thing you should do is to open a terminal and use sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade.. although just sudo apt-get upgrade will do
[16:22] <vivek_> once you do that type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:23] <calumayoo> okay
[16:23] <vivek_> and then play whatever video you want
[16:23] <calumayoo> thanks
[16:23] <vivek_> by the way do you use firefox
[16:23] <calumayoo> im using the default browser
[16:23] <vivek_> because kubuntu by default comes with konqueror and i dont use that much
[16:23] <calumayoo> why?
[16:24] <talik> Hi everyone
[16:24] <vivek_> so just click on the kde menu >applications>internet>firefox installer  click on it... you can either instal that or google chromium.. they are actually much better than konqueror
[16:25] <vivek_> with due respect to all konqueror developers
[16:25] <vivek_> hi talik
[16:25] <vivek_> calumayoo: is your upgrade done
[16:25] <talik> I've a question. I'm triing to lauch kickoff with command line, and I don't find any solution for doing this correctly. Does anyone know how to do it?
[16:25] <calumayoo> unfortunately no... 7kb dl speed
[16:26] <vivek_> 7kb.............???
[16:26] <lucitu> vivek_: apt-get update is req so upgrade will know the latest version
[16:26] <calumayoo> yes.  its fluctuating
[16:27] <vivek_> lucitu:i have made him do apt-get upgrade directly
[16:27] <calumayoo> 20 kb now
[16:27] <vivek_> calumayoo: ok
[16:28] <calumayoo> have you tried skype in kubuntu?
[16:28] <vivek_> no !
[16:28] <lucitu> vivek_: need update first and then upgrade..you said ' just upgrade will do ' is not correct
[16:29] <vivek_> lucitu:ok .. however i have always done upgrade directly.. will keep your advise in mind next time
[16:29] <calumayoo> me too :)
[16:30] <vivek_> calumayoo:dont worry things will work great
[16:30] <calumayoo> okay
[16:31] <vivek_> calumayoo: by the way your version is called 9.10 karmic koala.. in 2 days we are getting 10.04 lucid lynxx.. everyone here is waiting for that i presume
[16:32] <lucitu> calumayoo: the reason update is needed before upgrade is to refresh the index for newer versions if available.. for upgrade to work properly
[16:33] <calumayoo> so what happens if you go directly to upgrade?
[16:33] <vivek_> yes calumayoo:after 2 days when yiou install 10.04 dont forget what lucitu: said
[16:35] <vivek_> calumayoo:relax  i have done upgrade directly whenever i have instaled either ubuntu or kubuntu ..and i have switched plenty of times...
[16:36] <calumayoo> i have tried gnome already with linux mint
[16:36] <vivek_> although it is good and important to follow the rules
[16:36] <vivek_> so first update and then upgrade next time
[16:36] <calumayoo> okay. ill keep that in mind
[16:37] <vivek_> done?
[16:37] <corigo2> How can I troubleshoot my wireless card? KNetworkmanager is suddenly no longer displaying my wireless card. When I launch it directly from settings I receive an error about a missing XML file, and I would like to determine if the problem is KNetworkManager, or if it really is a hardware issue
[16:37] <calumayoo> no.lol
[16:37] <calumayoo> i have another question though
[16:37] <vivek_> please?
[16:37] <vivek_> please go ahead!
[16:37] <calumayoo> uhm, is wine compatible with kde?
[16:37] <vivek_> yes
[16:38] <calumayoo> great
[16:38] <calumayoo> you use wine often?
[16:38] <vivek_> i use it for dreamweaver
[16:39] <vivek_> and sometimes ms office because my wife uses ms office...personally i am fine with open office
[16:39] <calumayoo> how about with word processor? like microsoft office?
[16:39] <calumayoo> oh, i see... are there other alternatives for ms office than wine?
[16:39] <vivek_> i have one old version of ms office and it works fine
[16:40] <vivek_> you can use vmware but wine is cool
[16:40] <sas_> hi need some help. trying to use tightvncserver to show the kde on a windows xp....but connection wont be estabished.... its a ubuntu 9.10 minimal with kde 4 running on the server
[16:40] <sas_> x11 forwarding also dosent work
[16:40] <corigo2> culamayoo: Wine allows you to run windows programs natively, it is not an alternative to Office
[16:40] <sas_> can somebody help plz? think its just a coinfig mistake
[16:40] <calumayoo> thats not what i mean
[16:40] <vivek_> yes as corigo2 said
[16:41] <calumayoo> is there other alternatives for wine in running ms office?
[16:41] <calumayoo> other than wine, i mean
[16:41] <vivek_> there are a few use google
[16:43] <calumayoo> cant wait to install google chrome
[16:43] <vivek_> ok now that there are quite a few ppl around here can someone tell me something cool and new about 10.04 except memenu,ubuntu music store,kde4.4.2, plymouth, branding and nepomuk
[16:43] <sas_> could somebody help please? used ubuntu wiki and google ... trying more than 1 hour without succsess
[16:44] <sas_> x11 forwarding say's : Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyError: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[16:45] <vivek_> calumayoo:after you do allt his upgrades, install restricted extras.. install chromium by the below three steps one after the other
[16:45] <vivek_> calumayoo:sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa
[16:45] <calumayoo> ill do that, thanks
[16:45] <vivek_> calumayoo:sudo apt-get update
[16:45] <vivek_> calumayoo:sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:46] <calumayoo> still need to update?
[16:46] <corigo2> calumayoo: for photoshop and office I tend to run a VM of windows, but for simpler programs I have frequently found Wine to be sufficient
[16:46] <vivek_> calumayoo: and then enjoy your chromium
[16:46] <calumayoo> ok. ill google VM. is it hard to use?
[16:47] <vivek_> corigo2:even office runs fine with wine for me but then yes I use a very old version of office
[16:47] <vivek_> calumayoo: it is a virtual machine
[16:47] <calumayoo> i thought so... ive read little things on virtual box
[16:47] <vivek_> calumayoo: you can use it just like you use windows... use google
[16:48] <vivek_> calumayoo: done? i got to go
[16:48] <vivek_> just waiting for your thing to get over
[16:48] <kosmonaut> does some1 here user amarok+iphone(ipod touch)?
[16:48] <corigo2> calumayoo: VirtualBox is definately the easiest to setup and get running quickly
[16:48] <kosmonaut> (user->use)
[16:48] <vivek_> ok now that there are quite a few ppl around here can someone tell me something cool and new about 10.04 except memenu,ubuntu music store,kde4.4.2, plymouth, branding and nepomuk
[16:49] <kosmonaut> I am wondering how to upload podcast into my iphone via amarok
[16:49] <calumayoo> corigo2: can i ask for some usefull sites about VM?
[16:49] <kosmonaut> music seems to workd
[16:49] <kosmonaut> work
[16:51] <vivek_> calumayoo:done?
[16:51] <calumayoo> not yet sill
[16:52] <calumayoo> its really slow
[16:52] <vivek_> how many upgrades it said it has to do
[16:53] <calumayoo> how do i know that?
[16:54] <vivek_> calumayoo:after all this if you want to have fun with your system , upgrade your KDE to KDE 4.4.2.. but if you are risk averse dont try anything
[16:54] <calumayoo> okay
[16:54] <calumayoo> what are the risk of 4.4.2?
[16:55] <mamr> is it possible to find out if the radeon or the radeonh driver is running on my machine without an xorg.conf?
[16:56] <mamr> I meant radeonhd
[16:56] <corigo2> How can I troubleshoot my wireless card? KNetworkmanager is suddenly no longer displaying my wireless card. When I launch it directly from settings I receive an error about a missing XML file, and I would like to determine if the problem is KNetworkManager, or if it really is a hardware issue
[16:56] <vivek_> there are no risks of 4.4,2 .. the risk is of upgrading to KDE4.4.2 it might cause funny things.. for me after i  logged back in after upgrading there was nothing but a black screen
[16:57] <vivek_> well there are lot of such interesting things.. and it is fun to play around
[16:57] <calumayoo> dear..
[16:57] <calumayoo> but it is fixable right?
[16:57] <vivek_> of course it is.. dont worry
[16:57] <vivek_> and yes the community here is just great
[16:57] <vivek_> they rock
[16:58] <calumayoo> yeah
[16:58] <calumayoo> i noticed so
[16:58] <corigo2> calumayoo: yes just need to rebuild the configuration by removing old one and the black screen is gone
[16:58] <calumayoo> how will i do that?
[16:58] <vivek_> any help you need , if they know a solution , they will sit back for hours to help you out.. I have had ppl trying to sit with me through the entire night helping me solve issue after each one i created for myself
[16:59] <vivek_> corigo2: my case was actually quite different
[16:59] <vivek_> I just had to install kubuntu desktop
[16:59] <vivek_> and then run plasma
[17:00] <vivek_> that is it.. looked like when i upgraded kubuntu desktop was not installed
[17:00] <vivek_> calumayoo: done?
[17:02] <calumayoo> not yet.. 43 out of 90
[17:02] <calumayoo> 1 hour more i think... if the dl speed wont change
[17:03] <vivek_> calumayoo: I will be back in half an hour.. if that is ok with you
[17:03] <calumayoo> sure... ill do some reading
[17:03] <calumayoo> hehe
[17:03] <vivek_> yes do that
[17:04] <vivek_> and yes calumayoo: you can follow me on twitter vivek_40.. i am desperately looking for some followers.. lol ...(I have just 4)
[17:05] <calumayoo> lol. i dont have a twitter yet
[17:05] <vivek_> very bad .. lol bye
[17:08] <vivek_> http://2tu.us/21gq ..nice post on 10.04 .. but yes am sure this is not new to many here
[17:15] <enric> hello peopleeeee
[17:15] <enric> spanishhh partyy
[17:17] <BluesKaj> vivek_, twitter's for twits :) ... try to avoid being one
[17:28] <simion314> i never used ubuntu one, i am using kubuntu, so is it posible to use the ububtu one service in kde? i upgraded to lucid today?
[17:29] <allen> hellow..
[17:31] <lucitu> simion314: sure why not? if you can install it then it's ok
[17:32] <don_jr> I just installed kubuntu 9.10 and then updated.  I had no sound at all at first, installed pulse audio and now system sounds work, like when the system starts up, but no other sound at all.  I have tried aumix and alsamixer and maxed everything nothing works.
[17:33] <lucitu> don_jr: pulse audio is not the preferred backend for kde..install phonon
[17:33] <Prathmesh> Hello guyes I m having problems with PPP connection my DSL wont authenticate
[17:34] <lucitu> don_jr: open kmix and check your outputs are not muted
[17:35] <don_jr> lucitu I did use kmix and checked them all, none are muted, I've checked that in kmix and in alsamixer in terminal, as for phonon, never herad of that one, a lot has changed in a year.
[17:35] <Prathmesh> I get error modem not found modem dont respond and I have no probs with Ubuntu at all whats wrong with Kubuntu then ? I have installed Gnome PPP. But it also dont work. I'm online with Live CD of 8.04 Ubuntu ATM
[17:35] <don_jr> should I remove pulseaudio completely then? or just install phonon wiht it?
[17:36] <lucitu> don_jr: yes get rid of pulseaudio as it's know not to play weel with kde
[17:36] <simion314> lucitu: is not integrated with nautilus? sorry but i have no ideea how it works
[17:36] <don_jr> lucitu alright, will do, thanks, I'll let ya know how it works out, gotta look up how to remove and purge pulseaudio :)
[17:36] <lucitu> don_jr: also, if you use amarok, install the phonon-backend-xine
[17:37] <lucitu> simion314: don't know either..but kde does not use nautilus
[17:38] <simion314> lucitu: i know, that is why i asked, if it is integrated with kde, i do not want to use nautilus
[17:39] <don_jr> lucitu alright
[17:40] <lucitu> simion314: haven't tried but if ubuntu one is integrated with nautilus it might pull them in when you install in kubuntu
[17:40] <Tobbi> Hey guys, I'm currently installing Ubuntu. What file system shall I use for the root partition?
[17:40] <Tobbi> *Kubuntu
[17:40] <Etz> Tobbi: use EXT4
[17:40] <Tobbi> Okay.
[17:41] <Tobbi> Etz: Shall I format the partition? Yes, or?
[17:41] <Etz> if youre not installing on SSd or flash drive
[17:41] <Etz> definately format it
[17:41] <Tobbi> Alright :P
[17:41] <Tobbi> I'll stay in this channel for further questions...
[17:41] <Tobbi> :P
[17:41] <don_jr> one more quick question.  I removed the taskbar, how do I put it back?
[17:41] <Etz> don_jr: ?
[17:41] <Etz> KDe or Gnome+
[17:41] <Etz> ?
[17:42] <don_jr> kde
[17:42] <Etz> basically its not taskbar...
[17:42] <lucitu> don_jr: u mean the panel bottom of scrn?
[17:42] <Etz> its called panel and you can get it back , by adding that widget to desktop
[17:43] <don_jr> lucitu Etz yes, the bottom pannel that shows what's running.  I was testing out daisy and it doesn't open up new options when I run something new that's not docked to it, so want the panel back
[17:43] <don_jr> thanks
[17:44] <Etz> basically on panel is second widget , task manager that shows windows thats open
[17:44] <vivek_> Calumayoo:is it over
[17:44] <Etz> don_jr: if you removed panel, then you have to first add panel back and then widgets onto it
[17:45] <calumayoo> sadly not
[17:45] <lucitu> don_jr: since you don't want daisy anymore..getting rid of it might bring it back
[17:45] <calumayoo> what time is it there in your place?
[17:45] <vivek_> BluesKaj: just saw your msg ..:-)
[17:45] <don_jr> Thanks a ton, got it back
[17:45] <vivek_> calumayoo: I am in india 10:15pm
[17:45] <don_jr> okay removed pulse, added photon, restarting, will be back in a moment
[17:45] <BluesKaj> vivek_, don't mind me , I'm old and grumpy :)
[17:46] <calumayoo> lol
[17:46] <calumayoo> now im shy
[17:46] <vivek_> BluesKaj:Nah .. i used to think that too.. till i saw my frd having 350 followers and using it for business
[17:47] <vivek_> calumayoo:Why shy?
[17:47] <Etz> Btw... im still wondering, why they bundle quassel as IRC with kubuntu?
[17:47] <Etz> there are way better clients
[17:48] <calumayoo> cant say it right, but i might be consuming a lot of your time considering its late in the evening there already
[17:48] <lucitu> Etz: maybe it's part of kde now?
[17:48] <vivek_> calumayoo: that is ok
[17:49] <lucitu> calumayoo: just follow vivek in twitter ..:)
[17:49] <vivek_> lucitu: lol .. you too vivek_40
[17:49] <calumayoo> thanks. the internet here is so unstable
[17:50] <Etz> lucitu: maybe... linux is getting way bloated nowdays :D
[17:50] <Etz> or basically window managers
[17:50] <Etz> desktops, etc
[17:50] <lucitu> Etz: these are just defaults..you can still mix n match what you want..beauty of linux
[17:51] <Etz> lucitu: true, but mixing and matching gets annoying... if i have to remove tons of stuff first :P
[17:51] <lucitu> Etz: no one is forced to carry everything
[17:51] <Etz> at least you can make custom install disks :P
[17:52] <lucitu> Etz: just install the mini.iso + xorg + kdebase + plasma + your apps
[17:52] <Etz> lucitu: on netbooks i guess its plasma-netbook?
[17:53] <lucitu> Etz: i don't like plasma-netbook
[17:53] <Etz> tested it first time... usually i do net install without desktop first and then add stuff i need
[17:53] <lucitu> Etz: don't confuse netbook to netboot
[17:53] <Etz> lucitu: tried... if you have 7" screen its very comfortable...
[17:54] <lucitu> Etz: it have it in vbox but hated it
[17:55] <Etz> lucitu: 7" screen , even kickoff doesnt fit into screen :P
[17:56] <Etz> lucitu: also noticed, it uses a bit less of ram, 2GB was a real wasting into that machine
[17:56] <lucitu> Etz: what I like best is the xPud
[17:57] <lucitu> Etz: wait for the android gPad?
[17:58] <Etz> lucitu: nope... that old 701 does pretty much i need fo a laptop, and its small enough to fit my jackets pocket
[17:59] <lucitu> Etz: ok..but check out xPud..the UI is awesome
[18:00] <Etz> sounds interesting... checking their ebsite now
[18:01] <Etz> lucitu: WTF?? 35Mb?
[18:01] <Etz> lucitu: its only kernel, or im missing smthing
[18:02] <lucitu> Etz: it's for web mostly..cloud?
[18:02] <Etz> lucitu: yeah... sounds more interesting even... trying it out on vbox first
[18:03] <lucitu> Etz: what i wanted is the UI..for the plasma-netbook instead
[18:03] <Etz> lucitu: if its better, why not...
[18:04] <lucitu> Etz: i guess it's the 2nd best to touchsceen
[18:04] <Etz> lucitu: i dont have touchscreen in that device, but i guess its not mandatory
[18:08] <vivek__> calumayoo:my friend is it done!
[18:09] <calumayoo> still no, my friend.
[18:09] <vivek__> hmm
[18:12] <vivek_> calumayoo:time for me to go now.. just do all that i told you and you should be fine
[18:13] <vivek_> bye
[18:13] <calumayoo> bye
[18:13] <calumayoo> thanks man... ill try making a twitter acount as soon as i can
[18:13] <vivek_> lol...
[18:14] <vivek_> if you have any problem just post on the forums.. someone will surely help. I will be on the forums most of the time to
[18:14] <vivek_> too*
[18:16] <jimmy_> hey how can i install nvidia (GeForce 8400 GS) from nvidia.run file ?
[18:17] <edakiri> KMail displays the following error when showing a PGP signed e-mail: "No Audit Log available".  What is the problem or where can I find the answer?
[18:17] <edakiri> jimmy_: I advise against.  Use the ubuntu package.
[18:18] <jimmy_> edakrir but how to install it
[18:20] <jimmy_> any one ?
[18:20] <edakiri> the package?  I don't know.  I avoid nvidia for the reason that they have a closed source driver.  I'm sorry I don't know how to help you further.
[18:20] <jimmy_> any one else ?
[18:25] <Etz> strange....
[18:25] <Etz> jimmy_: first login console only
[18:25] <Etz> jimmy_: seconfly chmod +x that NVIDIA file
[18:26] <Etz> jimmy_: then sudo ./NVIDIA-blah-whatever-the-name-is
[18:26] <Etz> jimmy_: then you get nto setup gui, and its easy
[18:26] <Etz> strange, cant close dolphin windows...
[18:28] <don_jr> Still around lucitu?
[18:29] <don_jr> I have removed pulseaudio and installed photon and now I have no sound at all.
[18:29] <don_jr> phonon that is
[18:31] <don_jr> Okay so I added a new panel and started adding widgets to make it like the task bar, but it's stuck at the top of my desktop not at the bottom...I can't figure out how to move it
[18:33] <yoyo> don_jr are your widgets locked?
[18:34] <don_jr> I locked them and then unlocked them again
[18:34] <yoyo> zoom out and try
[18:34] <Etz> don_jr: unlock it
[18:35] <don_jr> yoyo how do I 'zoom out'?  not use to this KDE 4 yet
[18:35] <Etz> don_jr: then choose panel settings and then drag it wherever you want it to be
[18:35] <yoyo> upper right corner
[18:36] <don_jr> I unlock widgets and click the panel settings all it will allow me to do is slide it from right to left, not up and down
[18:36] <Etz> don_jr: it doesnt slide... it snaps onto new place
[18:36] <Etz> if you drag it acrros the screen
[18:36] <Etz> don_jr: btw what version your kde is?
[18:37] <don_jr> Etz I"m honestly not sure, how do I check?
[18:38] <Etz> don_jr: open kosnole and type: kde4-config -version
[18:38] <don_jr> okay, got it to the bottom again lol, thanks
[18:38] <Etz> for example...
[18:38] <don_jr> 4.3.2
[18:38] <Etz> don_jr: good...
[18:39] <Etz> don_jr: if i remeber Kde 4.2 had a bug, about mooving that panel...
[18:39] <don_jr> now to  my sound issue.  Without pulseaudio I have no sound at all what so ever, I've installed phonon and nothing, can't even see or find it
[18:39] <Etz> don_jr: upgrade it to last 4.4.2
[18:39] <Etz> don_jr: why not use pulseaudio?
[18:40] <don_jr> I had pulseaudio and all sound worked accept for in a browser, came in here to ask about it and lucicu told me to remove pulse and add phonon instead lol
[18:40] <Etz> don_jr: btw first check your mixer settings, i always end up with mutet PCM after install, dunno why... but always happens
[18:40] <don_jr> I'm just trying to get pandora and youtube to work lol
[18:40] <don_jr> Yep, I've checked my mixer multiple times with aumix, alsamixer in console and kmix
[18:40] <Etz> don_jr: i use ALSA , phonon sux
[18:40] <don_jr> alsa instead of pulseaudio or in conjunction with?
[18:41] <Etz> don_jr: pulseaudio works also, but gives me llatency headache
[18:41] <don_jr> Etz tells me I have the latest version of alsa-base
[18:41] <Etz> don_jr: i prefer clean alsa, but pulseaudio works also ok
[18:42] <Etz> don_jr: give me output of: /usr/sbin/hwinfo --sound
[18:44] <Etz> don_jr: u can also test via konsole: speaker-test -c2 -Dplug:front:0 -twav
[18:44] <don_jr> Etz  uh oh...  bash: /usr/sbin/hwinfo: No such file or directory
[18:44] <Etz> don_jr: yeah... you dont have that packae
[18:45] <don_jr> which package?
[18:45] <Etz> don_jr: hwinfo, use lspci
[18:45] <Etz> instead
[18:45] <Etz> is your soundcard in that list?
[18:46] <don_jr> yes it is
[18:46] <don_jr> 02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[18:46] <vivek_> calumayoo: hi
[18:46] <calumayoo> hello vivek, thought you were asleep
[18:46] <Etz> don_jr: thats good... did speaker test produced audio?
[18:46] <calumayoo> lol
[18:47] <calumayoo> its still downloading
[18:47] <vivek_> nah some frds had dropped by
[18:47] <vivek_> still downloading?????
[18:47] <calumayoo> yes
[18:47] <calumayoo> sadly
[18:48] <don_jr> Etz no sound from the speaker-test
[18:48] <vivek_> cool calumayoo: what time is it in your place
[18:48] <Etz> don_jr: hehe... looks like your soundcard inst supported by alsa
[18:48] <Etz> don_jr: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-VIA
[18:48] <calumayoo> 1:48 am
[18:48] <calumayoo> lol
[18:48] <don_jr> alright, so back to pulse it is
[18:48] <calumayoo> philippines
[18:48] <tim> hello
[18:48] <Etz> don_jr: you dont have a much choice
[18:48] <don_jr> now to get sound to work with my browser
[18:49] <don_jr> with pulse the system sounds and sound tests all work, but that's it
[18:49] <Etz> don_jr: or actually you have... you can live in golden silence :P
[18:49] <don_jr> that would suck! lol
[18:49] <vivek_> hmmm cool the internet in philipines is not that great i believe calumayoo:
[18:49] <don_jr> I need pandora while I work lol
[18:49] <Etz> don_jr: what is pandora?
[18:49] <don_jr> let me restart now that I've re-installed pulse
[18:49] <calumayoo> indeed...
[18:49] <don_jr> pandora is an online radio, www.pandora.com
[18:50] <Etz> don_jr: yep, found it
[18:51] <don_jr> okay restarting, brb
[18:51] <vivek_> calumayoo:how long do you think is it supposed to take
[18:52] <calumayoo> i cant be really that sure... but more or less 15 mins
[18:54] <vivek_> calumayoo:ok that sounds cool.. nooooo .. after that you have to install kubuntu-restricted extras
[18:54] <calumayoo> yeah... somehow its getting faster now
[18:55] <vivek_> cool
[18:55] <don_jr> Okay I do have system sounds again with pulse, so this is good
[18:56] <Etz> don_jr: what youre using to listen that station?
[18:56] <don_jr> not sure, it just plays on my winblows boxes.  doesnt pop up with any player.  It's built in, probably flash, beings that's what youtube uses as well and it doesn't work either
[18:56] <calumayoo> what's kubuntu-restricted extras for?
[18:57] <Etz> don_jr: stoopid question... you have flash installed?
[18:57] <Etz> don_jr: flashplugin-nonfree
[18:57] <Etz> don_jr: ?
[18:58] <calumayoo> vivek...its done downloading
[18:58] <calumayoo> lol
[18:58] <Etz> don_jr: im running out of ideas...
[18:58] <vivek_> great calumayoo:
[18:59] <Etz> don_jr: cant test it , im outside from US :D
[18:59] <vivek_> now just go to your kmenu ,and type there kpackagekit and open it
[18:59] <don_jr> Etz well damn
[18:59] <vivek_> Yes Etz: pandora works only in US.. so bad for us
[18:59] <calumayoo> its not done unpacking
[19:00] <vivek_> calumayoo:ok
[19:00] <Etz> don_jr: at least we got your sound back
[19:00] <Etz> vivek_: basically could use prxoy, but dont know any at US
[19:01] <vivek_> Etz:hmm but you can still use say lastfm but then it is free only for 30 tracks
[19:01] <don_jr> Etz yes I have system sounds now, this is good
[19:01] <vivek_> So now am happy with shoutcast
[19:02] <vivek_> Etz:but if we use tor will it help
[19:02] <Etz> vivek_: doesnt matter, if they dont want that i listen them, ist fine by me :P
[19:02] <don_jr> I'll try last.fm right quick, see if I can find anything that works
[19:02] <Etz> i have plenty other radios to listen...
[19:02] <vivek_> Etz: hmm shoutcast is actually cool
[19:03] <Etz> vivek_: i know what shoutcast is...
[19:03] <vivek_> I never said you dont ..:-)
[19:03] <don_jr> damn wish I would have never removed the original 'task manager' panel... I can't get it set right like it was originally again
[19:04] <don_jr> Nope, no sound from last.fm either
[19:04] <vivek_> I am trying everything I want on my karmic.. my system is anyway going to use lucid.. in two days
[19:05] <calumayoo> vivek, is there no refresh in kde?
[19:05] <vivek_> calumayoo: never tried .. never needed to.. what do you want to refresh
[19:06] <Etz> claydoh: f5
[19:06] <Etz> calumayoo: f5
[19:06] <calumayoo> nah, i was just used to do it in my previous os
[19:07] <vivek_> Etz: he wants to refresh the desktop like in windows
[19:07] <vivek_> right click refresh.. remember Etz:
[19:08] <calumayoo> vivek...i think its done with the upgrade
[19:08] <don_jr> anyone else having trouble with sound on the web not working?
[19:09] <calumayoo> should i install the extras now?
[19:09] <vivek_> don_jr: is it sound on the web you are talking about
[19:09] <Etz> vivek_: for me f does tha
[19:09] <Etz> vivek_: f5
[19:09] <vivek_> wait calumayoo: open kpackagekit first
[19:10] <Etz> don_jr: i had a problem sound not working with pulse at all... so i kicked out that and using ALSA
[19:10] <vivek_> don_jr: is your other stuff like amrok and all working
[19:10] <don_jr> vivek_ yes.  I don't ahve any mp3's to test amorok, but system sounds and sound tests work, but not youtube, pandora or last.fm no online sound.
[19:10] <Etz> don_jr: your kind of prolem...no
[19:10] <calumayoo> opened
[19:10] <vivek_> don_jr:try this
[19:10] <vivek_> click on the sound controller
[19:10] <vivek_> click on mixers and slide the pcm up
[19:11] <don_jr> I don't have that anymore....lol I goofed up the panel at the bottom
[19:11] <vivek_> don_jr:install it again what is the big deal
[19:11] <Etz> don_jr: then type kmix in konsole.. it opens it up
[19:11] <don_jr> vivek_ I'll check again since I just re-installed pulseaudio
[19:11] <don_jr> I don't know how to get this bottom panel set back up like it was before lol I"ve been trying
[19:11] <vivek_> calumayoo: in kpackagekit go to settings
[19:12] <Etz> i wonder why i have always PCM at 0 level and mute after installl
[19:12] <calumayoo> ok
[19:12] <Etz> don_jr: easiest way
[19:12] <vivek_> don_jr: just slide the pcm up.. things will work
[19:12] <Etz> don_jr: delete .kde folder from home partition and restart x...
[19:12] <Etz> don_jr: it goes default then
[19:12] <don_jr> Etz thanks, I'll do that in a moment.  kmix doesn't want to open up
[19:12] <vivek_> don_jr.:before deleting kde folder .. ust wait
[19:13] <vivek_> don_jr:ok do
[19:13] <vivek_> what is the big deal
[19:13] <ubuntu> o_O
[19:13] <don_jr> I can use aumix or alsa-mixer both of those work in console
[19:13] <Etz> vivek_: he gest his normal panel back then , without manual hassle
[19:13] <vivek_> calumayoo:in settings go to software sources
[19:13] <vivek_> Etz:ok
[19:14] <calumayoo> next?
[19:15] <don_jr> are there other system sounds enabled by default?  like windows opening, closing, shrinking and the like?  the startup sound is all I can get, that and sound test on my sound card
[19:15] <vivek_> calumayoo: now just see if uinder the ubuntu software tab, everything is ticked or not
[19:15] <don_jr> and kmix won't open, wth
[19:16] <Etz> don_jr: revert your kde back to defult, it should opn then
[19:16] <vivek_> don_jr: just do this once try it.. i am sure that things will work for you
[19:16] <BluesKaj> don_jr, make sure you have alsa-base and alsa-utils installed
[19:16] <don_jr> okay, let me revert
[19:16] <calumayoo> i checked them all now
[19:16] <Etz> don_jr: i dont know what you messed up exactly, but well see if that helps
[19:16] <vivek_> calumayoo: close it
[19:16] <don_jr> .kde dir should be in home?
[19:17] <TommyThaGun> how would I get Shutdown as an option in the Leave menu?
[19:17] <vivek_> go back to your terminal and type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:17] <vivek_> that was for calumayoo:
[19:17] <calumayoo> it downloaded additional package
[19:17] <vivek_> don_jr: it would be a hidden file in home
[19:17] <don_jr> vivek_ is installing now
[19:18] <don_jr> waiting to delete .kde dir, I foudn it
[19:18] <calumayoo> W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Kubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091028.5)/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[19:18] <calumayoo> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Kubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091028.5)/dists/karmic/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[19:18] <calumayoo> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[19:18] <FloodBotK1> calumayoo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <calumayoo> sorry
[19:18] <TommyThaGun> sorry, I think I may have missed a couple of lines of chat, did anyone respond to me?
[19:18] <vivek_> calumayoo: not the cd option.. lol
[19:18] <calumayoo> okay
[19:19] <vivek_> where did you mess it calumayoo:.. now where are you as of now
[19:19] <Etz> don_jr: why wait? use terminal.. rm -rf .kde it should be gone in seconds then
[19:19] <vivek_> calumayoo: where are you stuck up
[19:19] <calumayoo> im in the terminal
[19:19] <don_jr> Etz I'm installing the extra's first
[19:20] <calumayoo> stil invalid operation
[19:20] <Etz> don_jr: kubuntu-restricted?
[19:20] <vivek_> don_jr: that was not for you.. that was for calumayoo: lol.. anyway that is good
[19:20] <don_jr> vivek_ ahh, oh well, can't hurt much lol
[19:20] <vivek_> don_jr:no worries it is actually cool
[19:21] <Etz> don_jr: doesnt hurt, but i doupt youll need it... youll only need flashplugin for that sort of stuf... not 300MB+ package :d
[19:21] <vivek_> calumayoo: close the terminal
[19:21] <calumayoo> okay
[19:21] <vivek_> go back to software sources calumayoo:
[19:21] <calumayoo> im here now
[19:22] <vivek_> calumayoo: now there are few tabs up there right? like ubuntu software, other software, etc etc
[19:22] <calumayoo> under the Other Software now, yes
[19:22] <vivek_> calumayoo:go to ubuntu software
[19:22] <don_jr> okay, restart X after removing the .kde dir or restart whole machine since I installed the restricted packages?
[19:23] <calumayoo> you meann Kubuntu?
[19:23] <Etz> don_jr: restarting x should do it
[19:23] <Belegar_> hello
[19:23] <vivek_> calumayoo:yes
[19:24] <calumayoo> what to do next?
[19:24] <don_jr> restarting X brb
[19:24] <calumayoo> i checked them all
[19:24] <vivek_> calumayoo: check if all the options are checked there or not
[19:25] <vivek_> cool calumayoo: now go to other software and tell me what is checked there
[19:25] <calumayoo> cdrom:[Kubuntu 9.10...
[19:25] <vivek_> calumayoo: uncheck cd rom
[19:25] <vivek_> calumayoo: next
[19:26] <calumayoo> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu karmic partner
[19:26] <calumayoo> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu karmic partner (source code)
[19:26] <vivek_> calumayoo: uncheck them also no probs.. go to the third tab and tell me what you have there
[19:26] <calumayoo> Updates
[19:27] <calumayoo> Kubuntu Updates
[19:27] <calumayoo> checked: Important security updates, recommended updates
[19:27] <vivek_> calumayoo:yes there what is checked there
[19:27] <vivek_> ok cool now you can close it
[19:27] <calumayoo> done
[19:28] <vivek_> go to terminal and use this sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:28] <vivek_> close kpackage
[19:28] <calumayoo> its working now
[19:29] <calumayoo> :D
[19:29] <vivek_> calumayoo: how much time does it say
[19:29] <don_jr> Alrighty, desktop back to normal, now let's check sound
[19:29] <calumayoo> 3h
[19:29] <calumayoo> lol
[19:29] <calumayoo> 1h now
[19:29] <vivek_> calumayoo: do one thing before hand .. click on ths sound icon on the right in the bottom panel
[19:30] <calumayoo> ok
[19:30] <TommyThaGun> to switch from gdm to kdm should I just run: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"??
[19:30] <vivek_> don_jr : do what i just said to calumayoo.. for your sound thing
[19:30] <Etz> don_jr: kmix should also open... check PCM slider first
[19:30] <vivek_> PCM slider has to be up there .. lol. slide it up
[19:30] <don_jr> PCM is all the way up and not muted
[19:30]  * Etz have to go
[19:31] <vivek_> don_jr: pull it down , take it up again
[19:31] <don_jr> BUT PCM is listed under the wrong sound card
[19:31] <don_jr> would that matter?
[19:31] <vivek_> don_jr: try it else we can fix the sound card isue.. not a big deal.. well at least that is what i think
[19:32] <vivek_> calumayoo: you there
[19:32] <calumayoo> yes
[19:32] <vivek_> click on the sound icon calumayoo: click on mixers and slide the PCM up
[19:32] <markit> hi, upgraded Kubuntu 9.10 to 10.04, but I've no more the taskbar, desktop widget, etc., just the KDE background "sky / stars" screen, any tip? #ubuntu+1 guives no answer (all gnome users?)
[19:32] <calumayoo> max?
[19:33] <vivek_> yes max calumayoo:
[19:33] <don_jr> I took it up and back down again, now going to youtube to test
[19:33] <vivek_> don_jr:fingers crossed
[19:33] <don_jr> PCM is all the way up, so is Master
[19:33] <don_jr> I just turned them ALL up lol
[19:34] <vivek_> don_jr:cool.. no point keeping them down
[19:34] <vivek_> markit:do you have the cashew up there
[19:35] <vivek_> don_jr: is it working
[19:35] <markit> vivek_: oh, yes, it survived!
[19:35] <don_jr> no
[19:35] <vivek_> markit: then I guess you should have no problem
[19:35] <calumayoo> can play
[19:35] <vivek_> don_jr: ok so let us fix your sound cards
[19:36] <vivek_> calumayoo: what can play
[19:36] <don_jr> vivek_ lead the way my friend
[19:36] <markit> vivek_: I'll try the tips to make the "main panel" appear once removed by mistake, hope will help
[19:36] <markit> vivek_: I do miss a "restore default panel" feature so much :(
[19:36] <calumayoo> i went to youtube... is that what is supposed to do?
[19:36] <calumayoo> my mouse wont work
[19:36] <calumayoo> i wonder why
[19:37] <vivek_> don_jr: go to system settings, click on multimedia
[19:37] <rafa__> hello! do any of you experience flash video framerate drops while using kubuntu on a laptop?
[19:37] <vivek_> calumayoo: mouse not working?.. well in most cases a restart shouldhelp
[19:37] <calumayoo> the download's not done yet
[19:38] <vivek_> after kibuntu-restricted extras is over , restart.. i thing mouse should work after that calumayoo:
[19:38] <calumayoo> okay
[19:38] <vivek_> don_jr: are you there in mutimedia
[19:38] <don_jr> I'm here vivek_  i have moved the proper card to the top of the preference list in every area I can find before this, it is still there properly thus far
[19:38] <don_jr> what else can I check?
[19:38] <calumayoo> lol
[19:39] <calumayoo> its working now. after i closed the konqueror
[19:39] <vivek_> don_jr: and you say that even now the PCM is not in the proper sound card
[19:40] <vivek_> markit: yes a restore default panel would be of great help..
[19:40] <don_jr> in kmix, there are 2 tabs, one for the onboard and one for my current sound car, the PCM slider is on the onboard, NOT my pci card
[19:41] <Tsunade> hello :)
[19:41] <don_jr> vivek_ I se have I a pcm in both now
[19:41] <vivek_> don_jr: great.. slide both up
[19:41] <don_jr> both are maxed
[19:42] <vivek_> try youtube
[19:42] <don_jr> I will move them down adn back up while youtube is playing and see if there are any differences
[19:42] <don_jr> in the sound test of the multimedia area I do get playback on my sound card properly
[19:42] <vivek_> don_jr:should help.. but before that ensure your speakers are on :-)
[19:43] <don_jr> vivek_ speakers are on, I tested sound in the multimedia area
[19:43] <vivek_> calumayoo: is it over
[19:43] <calumayoo> not yet
[19:43] <vivek_> I was just kidding don_jr:
[19:43] <don_jr> when I click the mute or slide the PCM slider my speakers DO react I hear a clicking.  But still no sound from youtube
[19:44] <don_jr> it's like firefox isn't sending sound to the right spot or something
[19:44] <calumayoo> it will take longer i think
[19:44] <kevix> anyone have any issue with plymoth?
[19:45] <vivek_> don_jr: nah nothing like that.. try logging out and login again.. after that we will try something new.. and even after that if it does not work.. then as Etz: said.. silence is golden
[19:45] <don_jr> hahaha okay, back in a sec
[19:45] <vivek_> don_jr: anyway you can check amarok
[19:45] <vivek_> why dont you just add a shoutcast statioon to amarok and check
[19:45] <don_jr> if this next thing we try doesnt' work I'll go back to xubuntu 8.04 sound worked fine on an original install of it lol
[19:46] <don_jr> I need to get an mp3 to test it with
[19:47] <vivek_> calumayoo:how much time
[19:47] <calumayoo> 1 hr
[19:47] <calumayoo> :(
[19:48] <vivek_> calumayoo: Enjoy life :-)
[19:48] <calumayoo> yeah
[19:48] <vivek_> by the way are your videos working now calumayoo:
[19:49] <don_jr> OKay, logged out and back in, bringing up FF now to test the tube
[19:49] <vivek_> don_jr: fingers crossed aagin
[19:49] <vivek_> again*..
[19:50] <don_jr> vivek_ still nothing.....sheesh
[19:52] <vivek_> by the way are your videos working now calumayoo:
[19:52] <don_jr> any other ideas to try?
[19:52] <calumayoo> wait
[19:52] <vivek_> don_jr: no worries relax.. actually can you tell me the history of the problem a little what had happened etc etc
[19:52] <don_jr> yesterday I installed kubuntu 9.10, allowed it to update directly after install.  Had no sound at all
[19:53] <don_jr> installed pulse audio, have system sounds, nothing else
[19:53] <vivek_> is kubuntu the only os on it
[19:53] <don_jr> I tried removing pulse audio and installing alsa, alsa doesn't support my sound card.  I tried phonon, nothing.  So I put pulseaudio back on
[19:53] <don_jr> There is nothing on this box or disk other than kubuntu no.
[19:54] <vivek_> actualy you dont need pulse audio .. just wait.. what is your sound card
[19:54] <don_jr> 02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:54] <don_jr> without pulse audio I get no sound anywhere at all.
[19:55] <vivek_> wait gimme a minute
[19:56] <don_jr> ok
[19:56] <calumayoo> dragon's not functioning well
[19:56] <calumayoo> i cant play
[19:56] <vivek_> yes dragon has some probs wait calumayoo:
[19:56] <calumayoo> ok
[19:56] <vivek_> let your install get over first
[19:57] <calumayoo> :'(
[19:57] <calumayoo> ok
[19:58] <vivek_> don_jr: do you have any audio cd to check
[19:59] <don_jr> yes, one moment
[20:00] <don_jr> I have MP3's on a disk too I forgot about lol
[20:00] <vivek_> don_jr: hmm
[20:01] <vivek_> don_jr: also do you have a headphone
[20:01] <don_jr> I do, but headphones go through the same speakers that aren't getting sound now, I can check it though, I do not have a seperate headphone port
[20:02] <don_jr> testing CD playback with amorok now, one sec while it loads
[20:02] <vivek_> don_jr: did yuo post anything.. got dc
[20:03] <don_jr> only that I"M testing CD playback in amarok now
[20:03] <don_jr> soon as I learn how to load the CD into amarok lol
[20:04] <vivek_> don_jr: simultaneously open a terminal and type this gnome-volume-control.. you should not have removed alsa so early though.. anyway let us see
[20:05] <vivek_> don_jr:just insert the cd.. fire up amarok.. file open
[20:05] <don_jr> there is no 'file' in amorok lol
[20:07] <don_jr> I can't get the darn CD to load into amarok
[20:08] <don_jr> or maybe it is and there's just no sound not sure which
[20:08] <vivek_> don_jr: just check this link .. a similar problem as yours with a similar sound card http://2tu.us/21hz
[20:09] <vivek_> don_jr:click on amarok->play media-> choose the folder and play
[20:13] <don_jr> yup that's what I've done, but it still shows nothing in the play list and done
[20:15] <vivek_> don_jr: that seems to baffle me.. why are the play list not showin up.. that has nothing to do with sound. instead of using amarok.. open the foler , click on any mp3 file
[20:15] <don_jr> ok
[20:17] <don_jr> okay, when I open the directory with the CD in it, it shows the list of song titles
[20:17] <vivek_> and then click on any mp3 file
[20:17] <don_jr> to the right is a 'play' button and does nothign when I click it
[20:18] <don_jr> clicked a file, it's loading amarok again
[20:18] <vivek_> wait let me check on mine
[20:18] <vivek_> yes yes that is how it will go
[20:18] <don_jr> amarok still shows no song playing
[20:18] <vivek_> then now is amarok loaded
[20:18] <vivek_> click the play button there
[20:19] <don_jr> afk restroom
[20:20] <vivek_> calumayoo: where are you
[20:20] <calumayoo> im here
[20:20] <calumayoo> :d
[20:20] <vivek_> don_jr: I guess this should solve your problem.... first see this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965985 and then see this ...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[20:20] <vivek_> what is up buddy calumayoo:
[20:21] <calumayoo> 35 mins
[20:21] <vivek_> ok
[20:22] <calumayoo> how do i know if what version of kde i am using?
[20:23] <vivek_> in this irc thing .on the top there is help calumayoo: click on that.,. and click on about kde
[20:24] <vivek_> calumayoo: there it will tell you the platform version.. should be 4.3
[20:24] <vivek_> don_jr back?
[20:25] <36DAAJ2WH> hello
[20:26] <calumayoo> oh this is much better
[20:26] <vivek_> don_jr: where are you
[20:27] <vivek_> calumayoo:what is better
[20:27] <calumayoo> the 4.4.2
[20:27] <vivek_> don_jr: i got to sleep .. come back soon
[20:28] <vivek_> you mean there is 4.4.2 in your system
[20:28] <calumayoo> no.. searched it in the internet
[20:28] <calumayoo> lol
[20:29] <vivek_> yes calumayoo: you can upgrade to that as i did or wait till 2 days 10.04 has by default 4.4.2
[20:29] <calumayoo> yes.... ill do the update thing
[20:31] <rafa__> hello! do any of you experience flash video framerate drops while using kubuntu on a laptop?
[20:31] <dobes> no
[20:31] <rafa__> =(
[20:31] <rafa__> most times it's fine
[20:31] <vivek_> calumayoo: not tonight I am going to sleep now or I am sure someone else might help
[20:31] <rafa__> but sometimes the framerate drops a lot
[20:32] <rafa__> almost unwatchable videos
[20:32] <calumayoo> actually i need some sleep too
[20:32] <calumayoo> lol
[20:32] <calumayoo> it 3:31 am now
[20:32] <rafa__> then they come back
[20:32] <dobes> no video and soud by kubuntu
[20:33] <vivek_> don_jr: there seems to be this problem with your card and yes there is a patch for it.. but for that you got to come back
[20:33] <gonzalo_> alguien a tenido problemas con kubuntu 10.04
[20:33] <gonzalo_> con inestabilidad de kwqin
[20:33] <vivek_> calumayoo: I am 2 hours behind you
[20:34] <calumayoo> lol
[20:34] <calumayoo> yeah
[20:34] <calumayoo> ill just wait the installation to finish
[20:34] <calumayoo> you go ahead
[20:34] <calumayoo> :D
[20:37] <don_jr> vivek_ I"m back sorry bout that
[20:37] <vivek_> yes calumayoo: and if don_jr: comes back  just tel him to google this VT1720/24 no sound Ubuntu.. there is plenty of info , about this problem with this particular sound card
[20:37] <don_jr> when I click play on anything, nothing happens
[20:37] <don_jr> vivek_ okay I"m looking into it now, thanks a ton for the help man.
[20:38] <vivek_> don_jr: seems like there is this problem with this sound card and there are plenty of soultions too .. i would have stayed back but am damn tired and got to catch some sleep
[20:38] <vivek_> bye .. no problem take care calumayoo: and don_jr: have fun
[20:39] <vivek_> don_jr: I guess this should solve your problem.... first see this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965985 and then see this ...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[20:39] <vivek_> bye !
[20:43] <ubuntu> i've tried to upgrade to lucid, but i've got an error while processing x11-common (--configure). can you help me, plase?
[20:44] <calumayoo_> how do i instal google chrome?
[20:46] <wannabe_> http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux&hl=en
[20:46] <wannabe_> download it
[20:48] <ubuntu> no one?
[20:49] <wannabe_> ?
[20:50] <wannabe_> oh
[20:50] <rork> ubuntu: lucid is supported in #ubuntu+1 be sure to specify which error you get
[20:50] <ubuntu> no answer from ubuntu+1 :(
[20:56] <penocio> where in ubuntu is screen resolution and font size config are present so i can change them permanently?
[21:00] <rork> penocio: if you're using KDE it's in System settings > Display and System settings > Appearance
[21:00] <penocio> i have tried settings but every time i boot. its changed.
[21:00] <penocio> isnt there a config file?
[21:00] <penocio> text
[21:01] <penocio> ?
[21:15] <Zorael> Is it possible to input unicode characters by their character codes in KDE and Qt apps? eg, 03c0 for π
[21:16] <Zorael> I can input lazy unicode with the compose key, as in compose + comma + c yielding ç, but I can't find any way to enter the unicode keycodes. (In GTK apps yes; ctrl+shift+u.)
[21:50] <zhobbs> is a dist-upgrade safe from the command line?
[21:50] <zhobbs> kpackagekit is telling me "Distribution upgrade process exited with code 127." when I try to upgrade to 9.10
[22:10] <MartinBlumen> hi, everyone. On startup after grub menu I see a couple of "blinks" and really weird graphics. I can tell it should be saying "kubuntu", but everything is shifted and there are just like 4 colors used
[22:10] <MartinBlumen> Is anyone else seeing this?
[22:12] <penocio> where is the config file which contains screen resolution and font sizes, in kde latest kubuntu. i have tried going to settings and display/appearance but at reboot it changes back.2. i have increased ram from 512 to 512m+1g. (p4 2.8ghz HT tech) but i still observe same speed/performance. why?
[22:12] <Gerrit> Hi. I am running the Kubuntu 10.04 live CD. I manually added a configuration with "Manage Connections" (I have a fixed IP address/netmask/gateway/DNS server), but when I click on the newly created "Kiruna Studentnet", nothing happens (no window, no error, no network, nothing). I am now connected by using ifconfig and route by hand, but I'm sure that shouldn't be necessary. Is there a known issue with the network manager in Kubuntu 10.04, or is ...
[22:13] <Gerrit> ... there something strange going on?
[22:17] <James147> Gerrit: you could try wicd or the gnome nm-applet   knetworkmanager has been a bit unrelible in the past, not too sure how much it has improved with lucid though
[22:17] <Gerrit> ok
[22:17] <Gerrit> I'm just running the live cd so far though
[22:18] <James147> penocio: you can set the screen resolution by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf (there shouldn't be on by default) but you will have to look up how to do that i am afraid
[22:18] <Gerrit> just checking things out, now wondering why the configuration for the display won't let me select my monitors supported screen resolution
[22:19] <jimmy51_> !pxe
[22:19] <James147> penocio: also, if you need a preformance boost you can try disabling some of the more resource hungery stuff like nepomuk/desktop effects you dont care about... my guess would be that there is anoter bottle neck inyour system appeart from ram although I cannot be sure
[22:20] <penocio> James147:  what bottleneck can it be
[22:20] <James147> penocio: if you have an nvidia graphics card you can set up the screen by using "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and "kdesudo nvidia-settings"
[22:21] <penocio> James147: in x11 its only xorg.confg.failsafe
[22:22] <James147> penocio: not sure... disk/cpu/ram tend to be the most obious but I dont know how "slow" your system is, kde dose have a few preformance issues with it... disabling some of the unneeded effects might help
[22:23] <James147> penocio: by default karmic/lucid no longer have an xorg.conf file but try to auto detect the settings... you will need to create it if you wish to define your own settings (sudo nvidia-xconfig is the easiest way if you ahve an nvidia card)
[22:24] <penocio> James147:  sudo nvidia os not working for me. i think its not nvidia
[22:25] <James147> penocio: lspci | grep VGA     might tell you what card you ahve
[22:26] <penocio> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
[22:26] <penocio> James147:  $ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:26] <penocio> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[22:27] <James147> penocio: looks like nvidia :) try running "jockey-kde" and enabling the nvidia drivers
[22:29] <penocio> James147:  thanks. its workin
[22:30] <penocio> James147:  strange. the rams is x3 but still i feel the delay and lag in irc typing
[22:30] <Gerrit> Ouch, as I tried to fix the resolution, the screen went blank :(
[22:30] <penocio> James147:  one ram is of kingston one is of another
[22:31] <Gerrit> is there any practical difference between kubuntu with gnome insntalled and ubuntu witht kde installed?
[22:31] <James147> Gerrit: not really
[22:31] <Gerrit> ok
[22:34] <James147> penocio: enabling the nvidia drivers 'might' help, but there could also be a conflict with the different ram... you can try running the system with the 512 stick then try it with the 1g then with both again to see if there is any difference (if you can be botherered)
[22:36] <penocio> James147:  thanks
[22:58] <jef91> Howdy all, when I booted into Kubuntu this afternoon it is telling me my deskto compositing is disabled, however my graphics drivers are installed and working still  - any idea what else could be disabling them?
[22:59] <Typos_King> can't say
[22:59] <Typos_King> since I don't use or dunno what the desktop compositing may do/be
[23:00] <jef91> Desktop effects Typos_King
[23:00] <James147> jef91: if you have a laptop powerdevil can do it (system settings > advanced > power amangment) other wise the only other way I know of is if your system became slow for somereason it can disable itsself
[23:00] <Typos_King> right
[23:00] <jef91> James147 - when I tell it to toggle on in my desktop settings it tells me another application is blocking it - any idea what could do this?
[23:00] <Typos_King> it may be due to either something with the drivers or your system got slow
[23:00] <James147> jef91: not seen that before, what kde version?
[23:01] <Typos_King> and it disables itself
[23:01] <jef91> James147 4.4.2
[23:01] <James147> jef91: dose you comp have a battery? (laptop?)
[23:02] <jef91> Yes James147 but the laptop is plugged in and my profile I am in allows for compositing
[23:04] <James147> jef91: power devil dosnt seem to `block` it, just turn it off for a while
[23:04] <James147> jef91: not sure what else could be causing it though
[23:04] <jef91> Darn. I'll try #kde
[23:18] <Gerrit> Hi, I am unable to run at my monitors resolution 1920x1080, I have tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution but if I add and run the resolution by hand as described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution I get only a black screen, any other pointers?
[23:19] <Gerrit> I have a BenQ G2420HD LCD Monitor and ATI Technologies RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]
[23:20] <Typos_King> ...
[23:20] <Typos_King> you get.... the resolution your videocard driver provides, whatever that happen to be, and that differs from drivers to drivers
[23:20] <Gerrit> /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist
[23:21] <Typos_King> you can always make one with
[23:21] <Gerrit> I would be surprised if a modern video driver would not support something byound 1024x800
[23:21] <Typos_King> boot to 'recovery mode' and type -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg;
[23:22] <Typos_King> Gerrit:     what's your resolution right now?   800x600?
[23:22] <d4non> hi, why do I have same windows in taskbar in kde 4.4SC?
[23:22] <jfb_h2o> !keystroke
[23:22] <lex> hello
[23:22] <Typos_King> same windows?
[23:22] <lex> do you speak russian?
[23:22] <Typos_King> nyet
[23:23] <jfb_h2o> what's the keyboard shortcut for a right click on a file in dolphin??
[23:23] <Typos_King> but!
[23:23] <James147> !ru | lex
[23:23] <Typos_King> ^
[23:23] <d4non> I've opened evolution on second desktop, but I see it  on other desktops in the taskbar
[23:23] <d4non> that spams taskbar unlike in Gnome
[23:23] <Gerrit> Typos_King: 1024x768
[23:24] <James147> d4non: you can configure the taskbar to display windows form all desktop (default) or not
[23:24] <Typos_King> jfb_h2o:    I think shift-f10 may give you a right-click, or if you have a content-key on the keyboard it may use that too, the content is the one with the arrow over a rectangle, usually around the right-alt key
[23:24] <d4non> can't find that feature
[23:24] <James147> d4non: just right click (on en empty part of it) and click task bar settings
[23:25] <d4non> thx James147
[23:25] <Typos_King> Gerrit:   I have the same.. .but shows a maximum of about 4 times that much, in xrandr, then again, I don't have an ATI videocard, is an Intel
[23:25] <jv__> hi there! I know it is a stupid rtfm question, but it makes me mad because: Where can I bind keys to set screen brightness in KDE?
[23:25] <jfb_h2o> Typos_King, content key yes! Shift-F10 (what I'm used to, no...) too bad, content key on my keyboard is a bit awkwardly placed.
[23:26] <James147> jv__: system settings > keyboard & mouse > global settings
[23:26] <jfb_h2o> Typos_King, thanks... I never knew about content key by the way...
[23:26] <Typos_King> context :) hehe
[23:26] <Typos_King> so called
[23:26] <Typos_King> my keyboard context key is by the printscreen hehehe
[23:27] <jfb_h2o> yeah, mine too, with a Fn press
[23:27] <James147> jv__: ^^ s/global settings/global keyboard shortcuts/   > "kde compoent:Kde daemon"
[23:31] <jv__> James147: thx, I found it... but it seems it doesnt work... when I bind it only the bar moves without any brightness change (the hw button sill works fine, but fn+f5 is too complicated, I would like to modify it mac style)
[23:33] <vadi01_> guys is the nouveu driver supported in kubuntu?
[23:34] <vadi01_> and 3g-experimental nouveau?
[23:46] <ConcreteRose> what?
[23:47] <ConcreteRose> kubuntu? ubuntu? I got ubuntu.
[23:47] <ConcreteRose> What is kubuntu
[23:47] <Pici> !flavors
[23:47] <Pici> !flavors > ConcreteRose
[23:52] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:55] <patarok> hi !
[23:56] <patarok> could somebody tell me where the devices have gone in amarok prefs?
[23:56] <patarok> please i want to mount my mp3-player/memstick thingy in amarok...
[23:56] <patarok> 2.2


[03:17] <jrwren> snap-l: afaik its not a ddos attack at godaddy, its hardware failure.
[03:20] <snap-l> jrwren: Whatever it is, they're not getting the message out
[03:21] <snap-l> ANd if HW failure can knock their DNS servers out of whack, they need to rethink their deployment
[03:48] <grizcreative> My location: Grand Rapids, United States
[05:11] <derekv> "Don't reinvent the shit-wheel" is my new motto
[11:31] <snap-l> good morning
[11:33] <rick_h_> morning
[12:13] <brousch> East siders with kids http://metrodetroitmommy.blogspot.com/2012/09/lego-kidsfest-giveaway.html
[12:14] <brousch> And snap-l
[12:16] <rick_h_> oooh, thanks brousch
[12:16] <rick_h_> we might have to try to do that on the friday
[12:18] <brousch> We might have to wander over there Saturday or Sunday
[12:20] <rick_h_> ticket bought
[12:20] <rick_h_> we'll go friday, hopefully it'll be slower then. We've got a bike ride thing on Sat
[12:22] <brousch> Ah
[12:23] <rick_h_> doh, actually the bike ride is on sunday
[12:23] <rick_h_> but still, hopefully friday afternoon will be a good visit
[14:05] <rick_h_> jcastro: bringing the wood shop out of retirement
[14:05] <jcastro> excellent
[14:05] <jcastro> I need a custom wooden bench for my new garage
[14:05] <rick_h_> can almost walk through half of it now
[14:05] <jcastro> I need a table refinished
[14:05] <rick_h_> hah
[14:05] <jcastro> and I need a teak bench for my shower
[14:05] <rick_h_> well come on over nad get to work
[14:05] <jcastro> heh
[14:06] <rick_h_> ask makes a great work bench, cheap and sturdy stuff, easy to work
[14:06] <rick_h_> ask/ash
[14:06] <jcastro> you live so far
[14:06] <brousch> rick_h_ I need a desk for my son's room. Make it so
[14:07] <jcastro> I was just up there to see ryan's new place
[14:07] <rick_h_> hah, my wife's got her hopes all up that she'll get bed side tables one day.  My boss moved, ryan, widox
[14:07] <snap-l> jcastro: far is a relative term
[14:07] <snap-l> I used to live in Belleville, remember? :)
[14:08] <widox> ugh. moving sucks
[14:08] <rick_h_> widox: no doubt
[14:08] <snap-l> widox: That move doesn't count. ;)
[14:08]  * widox glares at the surrounding boxes
[14:08] <snap-l> OK, that part sucks.
[14:08] <rick_h_> I'm going to to taking the "leave it all, we need new stuff" route
[14:09] <snap-l> rick_h_: There's only so far you can go with that thinking
[14:09] <widox> toss out the window, light on fire
[14:09] <rick_h_> snap-l: I'm thinking the father the better that line of thinking looks
[14:10] <rick_h_> "what do I want to bring to portland...hmmm...laptop [check] family [check] mifi [check] done!
[14:10] <snap-l> rick_h_: _you_ might have that thinking, but I'm pretty sure it's not a shared consensus. ;)
[14:10] <rick_h_> bah :P
[14:11] <snap-l> "Here's the 12 things made of cinderblock that Michael made in pre-school"
[14:12] <jrwren> hire movies.
[14:12] <jrwren> err... hire movers.
[14:12] <snap-l> Then you'll never know where anything is
[14:12] <snap-l> Better to use cheap labor, like friends you can pay in beer and pizza.
[14:12] <jrwren> who cares, i'll find it.
[14:13] <jcastro> I hired movers this time
[14:13] <jcastro> worth every penny
[14:13] <jcastro> It wasn't that much more expensive than packing it myself
[14:13] <rick_h_> kind of cool http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/2012/09/11/ubuntu-one-music-store-now-on-the-web-and-on-your-mobile/
[14:14] <rick_h_> jcastro: oh yea? that's cool. When do you guys move in officially?
[14:14] <jcastro> I need to call them and find out where the truck is
[14:14] <jcastro> since we had them hold our stuff for a while down there
[14:15] <rick_h_> gotcha
[14:15] <snap-l> Oh FFS. Gotta love the comments
[14:15] <snap-l> I’m sorry to say I’m still not gonna use it. Nothing against you, but after checking some random bands, I found a lot of tribute bands (wanted to expand my Rolling Stones collection) but not the actual artists.
[14:15] <snap-l> Until I can get them here (central-eastern Europe), I just see no point in using it.
[14:16] <jcastro> 7d does miss a bunch of artists.
[14:16] <snap-l> Right, but it's not all 7d's fault
[14:16] <snap-l> Blame the stupid publishing licenses that need to DIAF.
[14:16] <snap-l> though I'm glad they moved it to the web
[14:16] <snap-l> Banshee's interface was, bluntly, sub-par.
[14:18] <rick_h_> yea, web ftw
[14:18] <rick_h_> especially as they get into other platforms
[14:18] <snap-l> Though I still think the Music Streaming should be folded into the price of Ubuntu One
[14:18] <snap-l> I understand that may not be possible, but an added $4 expense per month is distasteful.
[14:19] <jcastro> I am glad it's on the web too
[14:20] <jcastro> IMO I would just bundle streaming with a storage pack
[14:20] <snap-l> jcastro: ++
[14:20] <jcastro> "After you buy X gigs it bundles in"
[14:21] <snap-l> 50GB + streaming = $40
[14:21] <snap-l> or something like lthat
[14:22] <snap-l> Also wish they had a way to archive purchases
[14:22] <snap-l> I really don't need the fucking Baby Einstein stuff I bought for my neice clogging up my HDD.
[14:23] <jcastro> man
[14:23] <jcastro> when did U1 start doing referrer links?
[14:24] <rick_h_> about a month ago?
[14:24] <rick_h_> August 15 based on the news links
[14:24] <rick_h_> so not quite a month
[14:24] <snap-l> rick_h_: Shows how much I've been paying attention
[14:24] <rick_h_> follow the RSS feeds my son :P
[14:25] <snap-l> I already do enough navel gazing without reading Planet Ubuntu. ;)
[17:29]  * scitesy is away: I'm busy
[17:31]  * brousch well then I am too. so :P
[17:35] <brousch> Interesting: Multi-rsync http://freecode.com/projects/mrsync
[17:40] <snap-l> Hmm, it's an old project as well
[17:41] <snap-l> Wonder if it's doing something "nonstandard".
[18:50] <rick_h_> jcastro: wtf, xamarian pulling in everyone
[18:50] <rick_h_> DBO, now segphault?
[18:50] <jcastro> heh
[18:51] <brousch> They all caught mono?
[18:55] <snap-l> Apparently
[18:55] <snap-l> perhaps they shold call it the infermary
[18:55] <snap-l> Xamfirmary.
[19:35] <jrwren> its called PROFIT
[19:35] <jrwren> what are DBI adn segphault doing for xamarin, they aren't mono devs afaik
[19:35] <brousch> jrwren: You greedy capitalist pig!
[19:35] <jjesse> brousch, so i went ahead and rooted my nexus7
[19:36] <brousch> jjesse++
[19:36] <jjesse> just for you :P
[19:37] <brousch> Not for me, for yourself
[19:37] <brousch> Now it is truly yours
[19:40] <jjesse> so another question, when did new app installs place a shortcut on your home screen?  kinda like apple
[19:40] <jjesse> also droid VNC Server works very very well
[19:41] <brousch> I haven't seen that, so I'm guessing 3, 4, or 4.1
[19:46] <jjesse> well its on my htc rezound which is 4.0
[19:46] <jjesse> and my nexus 7
[21:34] <PainBank> rick_h_ interesting: http://wonko.com/post/yui-from-the-outside
[21:36] <rick_h_52> PainBank yep
[21:41] <PainBank> he alludes to forking the repo, but stops short of saying that and calls for a Yahoo Foundation... poor fellow.
[21:44] <PainBank> rick_h_52 are you using SASS or LESS for your css?
[21:44] <rick_h_52> sass
[21:46] <PainBank> cool, thanks.
[21:46] <rick_h_52> np good stuff
[21:46] <PainBank> just starting to look at doin that stuff.
[22:56] <snap-l> Evening
[22:57] <snap-l> Hello from MUG
[23:13] <greg-g> snap-l: how'd the presentations go?
[23:13] <greg-g> or I guess, you just started
[23:13] <snap-l> Yeah, it's just starting
[23:25] <rick_h_droid> party
[23:26] <snap-l> party party
[23:29] <greg-g> weeee


[23:04] <Dekkard> while I am enjoying the joy of the festival of unlevened bread, I would like to wish ya'all a happy easter.


[01:16] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yuk - Boothole: According to this: https://blog.vulcan.io/boothole-vulnerability-cve-2020-10713 will be ages before this is all sorted out :(
[01:22] <guiverc> :|  parts of that article I liked, parts had me wondering though (no mention of issues etc, little new)
[01:22] <guiverc> Bashing-om, ^
[01:23] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Nothing new to add - just concerned that there is no end in sight for a complete fix.
[01:25] <guiverc> yeah... can't disagree, and I don't see much of a chance for a sudden source before our weekly deadline (I forget when that is anyway)
[01:27] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I call this night the deadline - as when I get Home tomorrow my 1st chore is getting the WIKI together - Monday Morning ( my time) is final edit deadlines.
[18:41] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue 642 up for review and final edits: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue642 :D
[19:58] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Shouldn't the MATE Review article be in the Press section rather than Other Community News?
[20:00] <krytarik> "Current status in ubuntu" - the latter should be uppercase.
[20:04] <krytarik> And I'm not seeing any audio or video media in the Slimbook Review article to warrant it to be included in the Audio and Video section - do you?
[20:14] <Bashing-om> krytarik: 1)Lemme look and see where we put the KDE and xfce former articles. 2) Will fix Current, 3) Slimbook is from a podcaster we have featured in the past - But I have no real heartburn to drop it.
[20:24] <Bashing-om> krytarik: 1) Console and Xfce were in the past featured in "
[20:26] <Bashing-om> Other Community News" - Suggest that we leave the MATE article there too, 2) edited to "Current Status in Ubuntu" 3) drop the slimbook podcast ?
[20:58] <krytarik> Bashing-om:  Well, if you've put reviews of other desktop environments previously into the Other Community News section too, then that was wrong as well but I'll leave this one to you whether or not to move it.  As to the Slimbook review, up to you whether to find a more suitable place for it, but definitely doesn't fit in the podcast section.
[21:07] <Bashing-om> krytarik: You are the man - I move one and delete the other :D
[21:18] <Bashing-om> krytarik: ^ Done :D
[23:11] <guiverc> Bashing-om, ack on #642, page opened in window... get to it when I can
[23:14] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I await your direction :P
[23:28] <guiverc> :)  at first askubu top 5
[23:32] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Looking - Gdoc ?
[23:33] <guiverc> no, not an issue.. just it's related to the big-this-issue grub changes CVE..
[23:33]  * guiverc sorry if I got yer worried
[23:34] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Was thinking you were concerned that ""symbol 'grub_calloc'" was a duplication.
[23:35] <guiverc> nah, I just liked that it related to the ~big planet one..  (still reading)
[23:36] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Uh Huh - I forsee that next issue will continue this vulnerability issue. ( I have my pants rolled up to wade in ).
[23:39] <guiverc> :) LOL
[23:42] <guiverc> Issue looks great Bashing-om (I've finished my read thru)
[23:42] <guiverc> Great job too !
[23:43] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Sorta guilty that there was no "Blogoshpere" - I did not run across anything that blew my skirt up :(
[23:45] <guiverc> Personally I didn't notice in my read thru at all; the big boothole Planet one sort of absorbed blogo