[00:00] <IceMan99999> no one have me a link
[00:00] <Tony-server> lol
[00:00] <e370> bah bazhang chill :D
[00:00] <Iyunkateus> IceMan99999, say /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:00] <iceroot> IceMan99999: google have a link. hacking is not supported here
[00:00] <spikestar> hi
[00:00] <bazhang> e370, its offtopic here. chat elsewhere
[00:00] <Phuzzy> iceroot:  hey! it tells me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded."  how to upgrade the 2 items ??
[00:00] <spikestar> yo wuz up room
[00:00] <Phuzzy> !ot
[00:00] <iceroot> Phuzzy: sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:00] <arquebus> IceMan99999: to learn the power of linux you have to learn to use linux from console only
[00:01] <thiebaude> arquebus, i agree with that
[00:01] <ejv> you wanna learn, you shouldn't be here, you should be in #gentoo
[00:01] <ejv> lol
[00:01] <iceroot> arquebus: and from scratch...
[00:01] <DigitalKiwi> <3 console
[00:01] <hackerseraph> wow
[00:01] <hackerseraph> lol
[00:01] <Alexia> Phuzzy, that just means you dont need to upgrade those items
[00:01] <Phuzzy> iceroot: The following packages have been kept back:
[00:01] <Phuzzy>   linux-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[00:01] <Phuzzy> Alexia: ? it tellme this "The following packages have been kept back:
[00:01] <Phuzzy>   linux-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[00:01] <Phuzzy> "
[00:01] <DigitalKiwi> gentoo is suckage ;p ejv
[00:01] <iceroot> Phuzzy: ok for that  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:02] <iceroot> Phuzzy: this includes kernel-updates and so o
[00:02] <ejv> DigitalKiwi: for those that can't wield it, sure why not
[00:02] <Fenyx> I'm trying to setup a second raid on my machine. I'm running 'sudo modprobe md' but I get this error message 'FATAL: Module md not found.' Anyone know why? It worked a couple years ago when I set the first raid up.
[00:02] <DigitalKiwi> meh, arch > gentoo
[00:02] <slimg> Is it possible to chmod a dir so that files within will inherit the permissions, and not only the group of the dir?
[00:02] <Alexia> Phuzzy, Can I private message you
[00:02] <iceroot> Fenyx: maybe you mean dmraid?
[00:02] <iceroot> Fenyx: or was it mdraid? doesnt know anymore
[00:02] <digitalsatori> anyone has experience about how to recover the encrypted directory?
[00:03] <Phuzzy> Alexia:  sure just PM'd you
[00:03] <moshu> \/\/elcome`back`me
[00:03] <moshu> Welcome
[00:03] <hackerseraph> welcome back
[00:03] <hackerseraph> lol
[00:04] <Fenyx> sudo modprobe mdraid gives me the same error.
[00:04] <DigitalKiwi> but IceMan99999 might like gentoo ;D
[00:04] <ejv> DigitalKiwi: binary installations suck :)
[00:04] <iceroot> Fenyx: sudo apt-get install dmraid
[00:04] <DigitalKiwi> gentoo is binary installation! :P
[00:05] <ejv> no, it's not. it's source-based
[00:05] <iceroot> DigitalKiwi: no
[00:05] <DigitalKiwi> source based distro, but installation is binary
[00:05] <iceroot> DigitalKiwi: ubuntu, debian, suse, redhat, fedora are binary
[00:05] <arquebus> whats even better than gentoo is to just use a linux shell account, that forces you to use linux the way it was meant to be and not fall back on the GUI
[00:05] <iceroot> DigitalKiwi: gentoo is source-code
[00:05] <FiloSottile> how to rotate a x screen of 90°
[00:05] <ejv> the installation is also NOT binary
[00:06] <ejv> you're mistaken DigitalKiwi
[00:06] <DigitalKiwi> when you install gentoo you install prebult packages, after that you intsall from source
[00:06] <FiloSottile> using nvidia cadr?
[00:06] <iceroot> !ot | DigitalKiwi
[00:06] <DigitalKiwi> meh
[00:06] <iceroot> DigitalKiwi: sorry :)
[00:07] <DigitalKiwi> wut
[00:08] <FiloSottile> anyone.... how to rotate a x screen of 90° using nvidia card?
[00:08] <hackerseraph> @filosottile use system>display
[00:08] <tontinu> is there an ubuntu studio chatroom
[00:08] <hackerseraph> woops preference>display
[00:09] <Alexia> tontinu, not that i am aware of but we might be able to help you here
[00:09] <tontinu> its ubuntustudio :)
[00:10] <hackerseraph> ubuntustudio is the same as ubuntu with extra apps and a different gtk theme
[00:10] <hackerseraph> we can help you
[00:10] <hackerseraph> and im not familiar of an ubuntustudio room
[00:11] <hackerseraph> its awfully quiet in her
[00:12] <hackerseraph> here*
[00:12] <KittyBoots> I am looking for software suggestions, specifically programs for budget management.  Any advice?
[00:12] <craCkpot> how can i find out where an application was installed?
[00:12] <tontinu> hackerseraph: i have some studio related questions
[00:12] <hackerseraph> open your terminal and type which APPLICATION NAME HERE
[00:13] <Guest66869> hola a todos
[00:13] <zvacet> craCkpot : locate package_name
[00:13] <hackerseraph> @tontinu feel free to ask
[00:13] <dgan> merhaba millet
[00:13] <kavurt> KittyBoots: have you heard about gnucash?
[00:13] <dgan> Ben ubuntu kuracagım
[00:13] <kavurt> dgan: !tr
[00:14] <KittyBoots> kavurt: I am checking it out now
[00:14] <kavurt> !tr dgan
[00:14] <shamm> how well can Linux handle as DNS server in windows environment?
[00:14] <MaGicMaX> i have a problem i installed this package "plasma-widget-ktorrent" but the widget doesnt seem to be working when i have Ktorrent open.
[00:15] <kavurt> dgan: ubuntu-tr ye girdiniz mi?
[00:15] <b3rz3rk3r> shamm, you mean running DNS server in windows and using it from Linux?
[00:16] <majuk> shamm: DNS is OS independent.
[00:16] <shamm> b3rz3rk3r: Right now I am running DNS in Windows 2003 x64 with Exchange 2007, I'm trying to figure out a way to improve the DNS responsiveness.
[00:16] <shamm> I'm thinking about moving DNS from Windows 2003 to Linux
[00:16] <rednano12> What's wrong with OpenDNS?
[00:17] <majuk> shamm: That would do it. There would be no difference.
[00:17] <incorrect> is it me or is apple blocking streaming video again?
[00:17] <majuk> Or, little difference, anyway
[00:17] <shamm> majuk: if there is no difference, then I wouldn't worry about it.
[00:17] <b3rz3rk3r> shamm, obviously anyone in here will reccomend using linux as your server platform, as would i
[00:17] <odder> rednano12: what do you mean? my ISP is using OpenDNS
[00:17] <hackerseraph> @incorrect what do you mean blocking video streaming?
[00:17] <majuk> shamm: I mean operationally. It would most likely be faster, although I havem
[00:17] <rednano12> Never mind.
[00:17] <rednano12> My bad.
[00:17] <incorrect> hackerseraph, well i can no longer watch trailers from apple,
[00:17] <libtech> im prompted for a password when i try to access shared folders from another ubuntu machine. im not sure what password it is expecting?
[00:17] <incorrect> they seem to have changed something
[00:17] <hackerseraph> @incorrect in what browswer?
[00:17] <majuk> shamm: haven't played with Windows DNS serving before. My opendns server at home is pretty speedy.
[00:18] <shamm> majuk: ok.
[00:18] <b3rz3rk3r> but if you want to keep it the way it is, there really shouldnt be any compatibility issues is its just DNS that you want
[00:18] <shamm> Windows 2003 x64 got a lot of services, I'm trying to balance it into 3 other servers.
[00:18] <ironfoot_495> Hello I have a problem with movie player is there anyone who can help me solve this???
[00:18] <odder> ironfoot_495: just ask, we'll see what can be done.
[00:18] <hackerseraph> @ironfoot_495 whats the problem with your movie player?
[00:18] <majuk> ironfoot_495: State your problem, we'll help if we can
[00:18] <dpratt71> how do I install/configure fonts manually (running Ubuntu Karmic)?
[00:19] <rednano12> He can't watch movies from apple.
[00:19] <odder> dpratt71: just drag&drop them to the .fonts directory in your /home
[00:19] <b3rz3rk3r> shamm, you could always run virtual machines, linux would be a better platform though, as it much lighter afaik
[00:19] <shamm> b3rz3rk3r: I'm currently moving Spiceworks from windows 2000 server to Ubuntu 9.04
[00:19] <dpratt71> odder: thanks; and if there isn't such a directory, just make one?
[00:19] <shamm> running Windows XP guest.
[00:19] <ironfoot_495> thanks guys it's a permissions problem the error is ->Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[00:19] <craCkpot> even unbuntuzilla installs 3.0.13
[00:20] <craCkpot> (of firefox)
[00:20] <odder> dpratt71: I am not using Karmic, but I guess so, yes
[00:20] <MaGicMaX> i have a problem i installed this package "plasma-widget-ktorrent" but the widget doesnt seem to be working when i have Ktorrent open.
[00:20] <rednano12> craCkpot: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:20] <dpratt71> odder: ok, I'll try that, thanks
[00:20] <ironfoot_495> when ever I try to go to youtube this is the error I get!!!
[00:20] <bazhang> dpratt71, #ubuntu+1 for karmic NOT here
[00:20] <craCkpot> 9.04 (jaunty)
[00:21] <dpratt71> bazhang: ok
[00:21] <shamm> I love to be the only IT person, but hates the pressure...
[00:21] <ironfoot_495> I've search google and can't find a solution?
[00:21] <odder> ironfoot_495: you can't play youtube films, right?
[00:21] <rednano12> crackpot: what version of flash?
[00:21] <ironfoot_495> odder: No I get the error Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[00:21] <craCkpot> not sure, whatever aptitude get
[00:21] <craCkpot> s
[00:21] <timboy> how can I make window contents visible when resizing? (using compiz)
[00:22] <ironfoot_495> it's been driving me crazy for the last few days.
[00:22] <b3rz3rk3r> ironfoot_495, sudo?
[00:22] <Fenyx> I'm getting a bunch of start up errors. How do I look at them (they scroll past really fast)?
[00:23] <ironfoot_495> sudo ?
[00:23] <rednano12> craCkpot: try installing the latest from Adobe.
[00:23] <rednano12> Tell us how that works.
[00:23] <b3rz3rk3r> ironfoot_495, if you get an error saying u dont have privs, or acant access something.. use sudo to gain root
[00:23] <craCkpot> my version of flash will effect the version of firefox that is installed?
[00:23] <craCkpot> interesting
[00:23] <majuk> ironfoot_495: Well, obviously your permissions are screwed somewhere. I would guess either the place FF is storing the video or the Flash player itself.
[00:24] <rednano12> Doubt it.
[00:24] <majuk> ironfoot_495: Where do you see the error?
[00:25] <majuk> ironfoot_495: Furthermore, have you tried any other flash-driven sites to see what happens?
[00:26] <ironfoot_495> majuk: it's in the movie player when i complete the search and I double click on a choosen film I get the error  ->Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[00:26] <craCkpot> this is retarded
[00:26] <craCkpot> all i want is to use firefox 3.5.2, yet everything i've tried has installed 3.0.13
[00:26] <Fenyx> Does it dump the startup errors to a file somewhere?
[00:26] <majuk> ironfoot_495: Ah, right, I thought you said YouTube. Then the permissions on that file/those folders needs to be altered so your user has access.
[00:26] <rednano12> Even Ubuntuzilla?
[00:26] <craCkpot> yep
[00:26] <craCkpot> that is what i just tried
[00:27] <ironfoot_495> I've looked at some of the totem files and they all have permission???
[00:27] <majuk> ironfoot_495: lol, what permissions?
[00:27] <shamm> craCkpot: apt-get install firefox-3.5 ?
[00:27] <majuk> ironfoot_495: Not Totem, the actual files your trying to open
[00:27] <ironfoot_495> That's what I'd like to know when I log in as root??
[00:28] <ironfoot_495> I'm tyring to look at movies that I find on youtube and this is the error that it gives me?
[00:28] <Polt{laptop}> I asked a question earlier but didn't get an answer so I will ask once more before I go to my grandpa's birthday party. What are the benefits over creating a fresh formatted ext4 partition vs converting an ext3 to ext4. I converted an ext3 the other day into ext4 and I was just curious
[00:29] <SuPeRhOmEm> hi, What's the driver for a bluetooth chipset bcm2046? It isn't loading automaticaly
[00:29] <lenina> ok, my problem again (firefox wasn't the reason): after my installation of psb-kernel-source (poulsbo-driver) the monitor freezes all the time plus i cannot switch to another tty... i used this howto: http://tinyurl.com/mhuxth
[00:29] <craCkpot> yep tried that
[00:29] <ironfoot_495> using movie player so that's why I'm confused??
[00:29] <shamm> any error coming from apt-get?
[00:29] <rednano12> Polt: ext4 is faster, but a bit more buggy.
[00:29] <kavurt> craCkpot: I think you did something wrong with ubuntuzilla. I just installed with ubuntuzilla and everyting is fine
[00:29] <lenina> shamm: was this for me ?
[00:30] <craCkpot> how can i do something wrong?
[00:30] <ironfoot_495> I don't know where to find the error that why I'm asking if anyone has had this problem before??
[00:30] <shamm> to crackpot -- sorry lenina
[00:30] <rednano12> craCkpot: Same here.
[00:30] <rednano12> Try redoing it.
[00:30] <Polt{laptop}> rednano12 is there an advantage to converting to ext4 vs a fresh partition ?
[00:30] <craCkpot> it installed thunderbird no problem
[00:30] <rednano12> I'm not really sure.
[00:30] <craCkpot> trying it again
[00:30] <rednano12> craCkpot: cool.
[00:30] <shamm> apt-get install -f firefox-3.5
[00:30] <Polt{laptop}> I have heard that a fresh ext4 is better but I just didn't know why
[00:31] <Polt{laptop}> also shamm you might be interested in ubuntutweak because you can get the development version of firefox. I have 3.5.3pre and I like it so far no real problems
[00:31] <shamm> hmm
[00:31] <Tailsfan> Hello, I'm trying to install 9.04 on my IBN NetVista 2276 and it's at the hard disk scanning, it got done, but then it spits out an error showing "??? ???"
[00:31] <Tailsfan> IBM*
[00:31] <jeiworth_> Polt{laptop}: well, the thing is that if you convert an existing ext3 to ext4 only newly written files will make use of the advanced features of ext4
[00:32] <kavurt> craCkpot: did you run ubuntuzilla.py, after installing ubuntuzilla?
[00:32] <jeiworth_> thats why i am waiting to convert until just before the upgrade to karmic
[00:32] <Polt{laptop}> jeiworth_ I had heard that before but I did not know for sure
[00:32] <craCkpot> of course
[00:32] <craCkpot> like i said it installed thunderbird no problem
[00:32] <lenina> has anyone an idea ?
[00:32] <craCkpot> The following extra packages will be installed:
[00:32] <craCkpot>   firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding
[00:33] <craCkpot> those are the 2 lines from ubuntuzilla
[00:33] <KittyBoots> What should I install so that I can print to pdf?
[00:33] <lenina> @KittyBoots: do you mean convert ?
[00:34] <shamm> KittyBoots: do you mean saving a file to pdf?
[00:34] <rednano12> Hmm..
[00:34] <jeiworth_> KittyBoots: openoffice has it included, my kubuntu also brings a pdf printer with it by default
[00:34] <shamm> openoffice can do that.
[00:34] <KittyBoots> jeiworth_ shamm lenina: I want to print from firefox to a pdf
[00:35] <shamm> what jeiworth_ says
[00:35] <rednano12> craCkpot: Try running this, exactly.
[00:35] <rednano12> ubuntuzilla.py -a install -p firefox
[00:35] <craCkpot> lol
[00:35] <jeiworth_> KittyBoots: i just chose "print to file" and then pdf
[00:35] <jeiworth_> allreight, gotta go, cy@ll
[00:35] <craCkpot> what command do you think i was running? i got it from ubuntuzilla's Wikki page
[00:36] <rednano12> You'd be surprised.
[00:36] <rednano12> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[00:36] <rednano12> Try the manual install then.
[00:36] <shamm> cya jeiworth_
[00:36] <e370> whats a 500mW usb wireless card lol
[00:36] <craCkpot> i have downloaded the package from getfirefox.com
[00:36] <e370> sounds dangerous
[00:36] <craCkpot> which is what ubuntu said
[00:36] <rednano12> ?
[00:37] <shamm> brb -- rebooting with new kernel
[00:37] <craCkpot> i can install 3.5 from synaptic, but it uses the code name and that bothers me for some reason
[00:37] <craCkpot> shiretoko or something like that
[00:37] <rednano12> Shiretoko?
[00:37] <craCkpot> yeah
[00:38] <firecrotch> craCkpot: There's a reason that it uses the code name though
[00:38] <lenina> i *really* need suggestions - i need my laptop for work and it's very unpleasent that i can only do stuff for about 5min
[00:38] <firecrotch> !ff35 | craCkpot
[00:38] <lenina> ouch
[00:39] <lenina> sorry, bad english (i'm german)
[00:39] <lenina> -for
[00:39] <firecrotch> lenina: what happens after 5 minutes?
[00:39] <craCkpot> so basically because the official browser is FF3.0, they use the codename?
[00:39] <Vil_Coyote76> hi all, test
[00:40] <rednano12> craCkpot.
[00:40] <lenina> firecrotch: monitor freezes, no tty or anything else - seems that it only happens, when i run memory-intensive programs like firefox
[00:40] <firecrotch> craCkpot: Yes
[00:40] <Vil_Coyote76> test ok ?
[00:40] <rednano12> craCkpot: Yes, but I have no idea why UbuntuZilla ain't working.
[00:40] <rednano12> Try posting a thread in their forums.
[00:40] <shamm> back...
[00:40] <firecrotch> Vil_Coyote76: 10-4 good buddy, we read you loud and clear
[00:41] <craCkpot> i guess ill just have to live with shiretoko...
[00:41] <Bookman> I am using Nautilus connected to a remote ftp site and I'm trying to sort a directory to isolate all files that match *.jpeg.  I tried the search button , but it seems to be working and then returns nothing.
[00:42] <a94060> hello
[00:42] <craCkpot> any ETA on a rebrand? im assuming the next version of ubuntu (in october, right?)
[00:43] <bazhang> craCkpot, correct.
[00:43] <firecrotch> craCkpot: Correct
[00:43] <craCkpot> 9.10 right?
[00:43] <firecrotch> craCkpot: Yes
[00:43] <bazhang> craCkpot, aye
[00:43] <craCkpot> yay i remembered their naming convention
[00:44] <bazhang> craCkpot, all explained the in the link.
[00:44] <gNewPower> Hi!  What is the command to detect all disks in a computer, included not mounted ones?
[00:44] <craCkpot> fdisk -l?
[00:44] <bazhang> http://is.gd/1reB3  <----- craCkpot
[00:44] <gNewPower> craCkpot, thanks!
[00:45] <saphirblanc> hello
[00:46] <craCkpot> yeah now its not showing the addons that i use on my windows install of 3.5.2
[00:46] <NET||abuse> hey all, http://movies.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_480p.mov   can anyone play it? tried with totem and vlc, also tried to wget it.
[00:47] <NET||abuse> wget just gets a text file, and i wasn't able to figure out what it meant.
[00:48] <khermans> ive got 5 minutes -- i want to solve 5 people's problems ... LETS GO -- shoot me your most difficult issues now :-)
[00:48] <th0r> khermans: world peace
[00:48] <Katastrophie> hello, my sound will not work at all... my computer detects my sound card, but my sound fails to work. i've checked all the volume settings in alsa to no avail, is there anyone who could guide me through the process of finding out what the problem is?? any info needed i am happy to provide
[00:49] <khermans> th0r, sudo aptitude install world-peace
[00:49] <NET||abuse> khermans, i can't play this video
[00:49] <khermans> done...
[00:49] <NET||abuse> http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avatar/
[00:49] <Bookman> Ok, later...
[00:49] <sumo_su> khermans: i want to downgrade from ext4 to ext3
[00:49] <khermans> Katastrophie, alsamixer
[00:49] <craCkpot> downloading firefox from getfirefox.com and running ./firefox runs version 3.5.2
[00:49] <shamm> khermans: moving DNS / DHCP from Windows 2003 to Ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[00:49] <shamm> :P
[00:49] <shamm> :)
[00:49] <Katastrophie> ?? :D
[00:49] <th0r> khermans: can't install it...missing dependencies libcommonsense and libintelligence
[00:49] <GuidMorrow> ok, for some reason, bits and pieces of screen will turn black, as if the graphics will get corrupt, how do I fix this
[00:49] <firecrotch> khermans: I'm in love with a girl who is married but having problems with her husband, to the point that they've filed for divorce, but they're trying to work things out.  Go.
[00:50] <khermans> NET||abuse, sudo aptitude install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[00:50] <Katastrophie> thats what i ment, alsamixer is fine
[00:50] <joaopinto> firecrotch, please keep on topic
[00:50] <khermans> sumo_su, sudo aptitude install gparted; then resize your partition down to smallest it can be, create ext3 in slack space, migrate your data, delete your ext4, expand ext3, done
[00:50] <shamm> khermans: would it be a problem if I move DNS/DHCP from windows 2003 AD (Doain Controller master)
[00:51] <goatman> hi, i see too many mailing lists on the lists.blender.org, which one should i sign up for general advice on blender's code?
[00:51] <meoblast001> how do i unstop a process in gnome system monitor?
[00:51] <GuidMorrow> !ot | firecrotch
[00:51] <shamm> to linux that is.
[00:51] <joaopinto> goatman, try asking on blenders channel
[00:51] <firecrotch> joaopinto, GuidMorrow: well he asked for my biggest problem!
[00:51] <joaopinto> !ot | firecrotch
[00:51] <NET||abuse> khermans, no joy, vlc won't play that stream
[00:51] <khermans> shamm, check out bind
[00:51] <meoblast001> nvm
[00:51] <shamm> ok, will check that out
[00:52] <JazzDrummerGirl> does chesse
[00:52] <Plagman> Hey.
[00:52] <GuidMorrow> how do I fix graphics corruption?
[00:52] <JazzDrummerGirl> work
[00:52] <losher> GuidMorrow: I'd be worried it's a hardware issue. Do you see it with the live cd?
[00:52] <Plagman> How do you fix "Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting." when trying to start gnome-terminal?
[00:52] <Plagman> firefox doesn't start either
[00:52] <khermans> shamm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto
[00:52] <joaopinto> GuidMorrow, it could be a graphics card driver issue
[00:52] <JazzDrummerGirl> plagman
[00:52] <shamm> thanks, -- reading..
[00:52] <GuidMorrow> well, does it matter? do I need to run recovery mode and run a command?
[00:52] <Plagman> ?
[00:53] <khermans> firecrotch, http://www.PlentyOfFish.com
[00:53] <losher> sumo_su: the only way I know of to go from ext4 to ext3 is to backup the ext4 data and restore to an ext3 partition.
[00:53] <joaopinto> GuidMorrow, no, you need to identify if there is a better a driver for your model
[00:53] <JazzDrummerGirl> is tethering illegal
[00:53] <GuidMorrow> I have nvidia driver 180.44
[00:53] <firecrotch> khermans: No thank you, I've run into my share of psychos there :(
[00:53] <shamm> hmm I would prefer Windows 2003 to keep  AD while Linux run DNS/DHCP
[00:53] <JazzDrummerGirl> ?
[00:54] <joaopinto> GuidMorrow, I am not familiar with nvidia drivers, but I believe you have several versions of the driver you can try
[00:54] <sumo_su> losher: well my installation is in ext4 so i'll jus stick with it
[00:54] <tuxforce> I love patata
[00:54] <firecrotch> shamm: You shouldn't have any problems, I did the same thing
[00:54] <joaopinto> sumo_su, there is no problem on using ext4...
[00:54] <khermans> firecrotch, not me ;-P  met a cool girl who is a dentist ... my dream girl!!
[00:54] <shamm> firecrotch: h.
[00:54] <shamm> hmmmm
[00:54] <khermans> shes more educated than me!  grad degree, damn!!
[00:54] <losher> sumo_su: might as well, not worth the bother of downgrading, though I wouldn't choose ext4 personally...
[00:55] <joaopinto> no bot, funny guys on the channel
[00:55] <sumo_su> joaopinto: well i had a corrupted system file that caused quite some trouble... ppl told me that might be data corruption due to ext4
[00:55] <firecrotch> shamm: granted I have a small, small network
[00:55] <tuxforce> there is here any guy from Australia ?
[00:55] <tuxforce> i search autralian girl or boy
[00:55] <shamm> firecrotch: I'm Technology Coordinator running 5 servers and 300 workstations
[00:55] <bazhang> tuxforce, this is ubuntu support only
[00:55] <losher> shamm: there are dns and dhcp servers for linux. That's about all I know about it...
[00:55] <shamm> I'm trying to figure out a way to improve DNS services
[00:56] <tuxforce> bazhang,  i search infact a australian ubuntu users
[00:56] <losher> !au
[00:56] <bazhang> !au > tuxforce
[00:56] <tuxforce> -s
[00:56] <shamm> losher: ok
[00:56] <tuxforce> bazhang,  tnk very much
[00:56] <joaopinto> sumo_su, I am using ext4 for quite some time, never had troubles, I always trust my data to beackups, not to filesystems, hw failures are much more likely than a filesystem corruption :)
[00:56] <khermans> NET||abuse, its a poorly coded website
[00:56] <shamm> losher: will I be able to transfer the DHCP/DNS settings to linux?
[00:56] <shamm> losher: do I need to convert anything in the process?
[00:56] <khermans> NET||abuse, but you can utilize this addon https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006
[00:56] <khermans> works for me
[00:57] <joaopinto> shamm, you will need to learn how to setup a dns/dhcp server first, that will give you all the answers
[00:57] <sumo_su> joaopinto: thats kinda what i thought... cant be that difficult to code an upgraded FS and make it so solid that it doesnt mess up your data:)
[00:57] <losher> shamm: unlikely, but I'm no windows expert. Maybe someone on ##windows can help? Also try googling for migrating service from windows to Ubuntu..
[00:57] <khermans> i think I have only one minute left -- did i solve 5 questions or not
[00:57] <khermans> ?
[00:57] <shamm> joaopinto: I've set up that server before -- starting from scratch, but not in the existing environment
[00:58] <NET||abuse> khermans, ah, not a bad idea, i'll give it a chance.
[00:58] <GuidMorrow> ok, I'm in the X-Server settings, do I need to enable V-blank?
[00:58] <shamm> losher: Aha... -- migrating -- that was the word I was looking for
[00:58] <shamm> doing google
[00:58] <GuidMorrow> *sync to V-blank?
[00:58] <NET||abuse> khermans, i'll count mine as solved :)
[00:58] <khermans> +1, yay!
[00:58] <shamm> sometimes I hate it when English is my 2nd language
[00:59] <losher> shamm: you're doing fine. At least you're not American...
[00:59] <shamm> losher: I'm American :)
[00:59] <sumo_su> lol
[00:59] <NET||abuse> khermans, hmm, unfortunately that download helper doesn't work for this site...
[00:59] <shamm> American Sign Language is my first language -- I'm deaf
[01:00] <shamm> hit alt+f4 by mistake
[01:00] <losher> shamm: interesting. I find Americans speak the worst English...
[01:00] <shamm> who privmsg'd me?
[01:00] <GuidMorrow> joaopinto, does turning on vsync help with corruption any?
[01:00] <NET||abuse> khermans, i still count it as solved as now i've ignored it and am watching a family guy clip.. problem solved.
[01:00] <shamm> losher: lol
[01:00] <zagabar1> How do I log in as OP on my irc server?
[01:00] <joaopinto> GuidMorrow, no idea
[01:01] <joaopinto> zagabar1, check your irc server configuration
[01:01] <joaopinto> that is irc server softwar dependent
[01:01] <zagabar1> joaopinto: I see.
[01:01] <joaopinto> usually you need an o:line
[01:02] <craCkpot> those of you that are using ubuntuzilla, what version are you running?
[01:02] <losher> zagabar1: what's OP? Opie?
[01:03]  * shamm do not use ubuntuzilla
[01:03] <GuidMorrow> shamm: ubuntuzilla?
[01:03] <craCkpot> i'm wondering if i should use an older version.
[01:03]  * GuidMorrow . o O what the !language does that mean?
[01:04]  * shamm points GuidMorrow to craCkpot
[01:04] <losher> apparently ubuntuzilla is some kind of mozilla installation utility...
[01:05] <revygttam> I accidently deleted the /lib folder on one of my boxes.. what is the best way for me to salvage whats left and reinstall ubuntu ?
[01:05] <craCkpot> ubuntuzilla allows you to safely install 3.5.2 (and im assuming keep the firefox brand)
[01:05] <GuidMorrow> wth no package!
[01:05] <shiva1> hey i have a question concerning
[01:06] <shiva1> i need to execute a .run file
[01:06] <shiva1> and when i do
[01:06] <shiva1> su
[01:06] <shiva1> and then enter my passowrd
[01:06] <FloodBot2> shiva1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <losher> revygttam: boot the live cd and use it to backup anything you can't without
[01:06] <a94060> shiva1: ./run_file.run
[01:06] <GuidMorrow> craCkpot: "E: Couldn't find package ubuntuzilla"
[01:06] <a94060> shiva1: sudo ./run_file.run
[01:06] <shiva1> i tried that and it says
[01:07] <shamm> dpkg -i /path/to/ubuntuzilla*.deb && apt-get install -f
[01:07] <shiva1> hmm okay it seems i need to do init 1
[01:07] <a94060> shiva1: what does it say?
[01:07] <JazzDrummerGirl> heyyy
[01:07] <shiva1> to get out of the GUI ..its working now ..now it says to exit the X server
[01:07] <GuidMorrow> ID10T error :(
[01:07] <shiva1> and try installing then
[01:07] <shiva1> i might try that one out then ..
[01:07] <edbian> !hi | JazzDrummerGirl
[01:08] <shiva1> so i should do init 1 ?
[01:08] <Ben64> i'd suggest using the mozilla team's repositories over ubuntuzilla
[01:08] <shiva1> well tryin to do Init 1 but it says admin privi needed
[01:08]  * GuidMorrow searches google
[01:08] <Ben64> init 1 will take you to single user mode
[01:08] <JazzDrummerGirl> edbian:  hi i need help
[01:08] <edbian> JazzDrummerGirl: You do?!?  With what?
[01:09] <i00nsu> hi guys, can anybody tell merve all package needed to install X server in a Ubuntu-Server but without the fast-solution (apt-get install [k]ubuntu-desktop?
[01:09] <GuidMorrow> how do I run "git://"
[01:09] <craCkpot> get a git client? (if there is one)
[01:09] <JazzDrummerGirl> edbian: with my internet conection
[01:09] <craCkpot> git is similar to svn isn't it?
[01:09] <a94060> there is a list actually,iforgot where it is of all the packages
[01:09] <Ben64> i00nsu: why not just do ubuntu-desktop?
[01:09] <edbian> JazzDrummerGirl: Gotta be more specific than that.
[01:09] <Ben64> JazzDrummerGirl: seems like it's working so far
[01:10] <JazzDrummerGirl> edbian:  i am tethering but  it stopped working
[01:10] <GuidMorrow> ...wait that's the source code, nvm
[01:10] <edo_> .org
[01:10] <JazzDrummerGirl> im using my friends route
[01:10] <edbian> JazzDrummerGirl: I don't think I'm gonna be of much help.  I don't even know what tethering is.  I'm going to google now a bit.
[01:10] <Ben64> JazzDrummerGirl: you're using a cell phone for internet on your computer?
[01:10] <GuidMorrow> Wrong architecture: i386
[01:10] <a94060> Ben64: i think thats what she means
[01:11] <JazzDrummerGirl> Ben64: yes  i am
[01:11] <GuidMorrow> FAILURE
[01:11] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: just use repositories for mozilla... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[01:11] <Ben64> JazzDrummerGirl: verizon, sprint, att?
[01:11] <JazzDrummerGirl> ben64 metro pcs
[01:11] <Ben64> the more information you give, the less we would have to ask you to answer
[01:11] <FusiouS>  ace
[01:11] <i00nsu> ben64: first becouse I want to know all pacage needed to do it, secound becouse I want to personalize all tools, and third becouse I want to use KDE3.5
[01:12] <Ben64> JazzDrummerGirl: was it working ever?
[01:12] <JazzDrummerGirl> yes
[01:13] <Ben64> are you connecting your phone with usb, and using it as a DUN connection?
[01:13] <JazzDrummerGirl> Ben64:  up until this morning
[01:13] <Ben64> and it's dialing #777?
[01:13] <th0r> i00nsu: we got it working the other day by installing xorg and xfce
[01:13] <JazzDrummerGirl> ben64 YES
[01:13] <JazzDrummerGirl> Ben64 i think its the proxy
[01:13] <Ben64> sheesh don't yell at me, you're the one making me ask you for information to solve your problem
[01:13] <th0r> i00nsu: course, you might prefer twm or some such to xfce...your choice
[01:13] <MadScientist> hi people..I have a silly question...when i write "TM" ubuntu put it in superscript....how i can deactivate this option? it is very annoyingXD
[01:14] <Irishmanluke> ok which is better aptitude or apt-get
[01:14] <xsebsx_> HELP!!!: I am getting the following problem, when I plug in my cellphone to the laptop which has jaunty on it, the system will not detect the USB connection or to be more specific it won't mount it automatically, i typed lspci and this showed up: Bus 001 Device 014: ID 0fce:e0f3 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB so it means it does see it but ti doesn't automatically mount it, so i did some research and i found there's a fix for the problem, on th
[01:14] <xsebsx_> is thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975622&page=3 it says i have to download osme tar files and copy them in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but i don't know how to do that,
[01:14] <Ben64> JazzDrummerGirl: do you pay for tethering?
[01:14] <edbian> Irishmanluke: Personal preference.  Aptitude is more advanced.  It tries to figure out things for you.
[01:14] <JazzDrummerGirl> ben64 no just on my phone
[01:14] <GuidMorrow> Ben64: which package...? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1149126
[01:14] <QERTY>  ace
[01:14] <QERTY>   good
[01:14] <QERTY>   hello
[01:14] <QERTY>   hey
[01:14] <QERTY>   hi
[01:14] <QERTY>   lol
[01:15] <GuidMorrow> ow
[01:15] <edbian> xsebsx_: Is this the old sebsebseb???
[01:15] <Irishmanluke> edbian: so it's safer to use apt-get
[01:15] <FusiouS>  ace
[01:15] <FusiouS>   good
[01:15] <FusiouS>   hello
[01:15] <FusiouS>   hey
[01:15] <FusiouS>   hi
[01:15] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: add the repos listed there, and install whatever you want to install, be it firefox, thunderbird, or seamonkey
[01:15] <i00nsu> th0r, just kde, I really like kde3.5..
[01:15] <JazzDrummerGirl> qerty stop spaming
[01:15] <FusiouS>  ace
[01:15] <FusiouS>   good
[01:15] <FusiouS>   hello
[01:15] <FusiouS>   hey
[01:15] <FusiouS>   hi
[01:15] <edbian> Irishmanluke: It's not considered dangerous to use aptitude.  But it is more explicit to use apt-get yeah.
[01:15] <edbian> !ops | FusiouS
[01:15] <JazzDrummerGirl> FusiouS: stop spamming
[01:16]  * Ben64 air-fives bazhang
[01:16] <JazzDrummerGirl> haha
[01:16] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:16] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[01:16] <Ben64> oh snap
[01:16] <haggisbasheruk> now i remember why i don't come here :P
[01:16] <Iyunkateus> whoa
[01:16] <shamm> ./clear
[01:16] <deco> what happened ?
[01:16] <th0r> i00nsu: well....your choice. I would go with something lighter on a server. BTW, be careful not to install network manager...we initially installed xubuntu-desktop and lost all connection to the server, had to reinitialize the server and start over
[01:16] <shamm> *ahh*
[01:16] <Ben64> netsplit
[01:17] <Iyunkateus> whoa, that was epic
[01:17] <losher> haggisbasheruk: you just caught us at a bad moment. It's still worth it...
[01:17] <Iyunkateus> I've never seen a netsplit before
[01:17] <haggisbasheruk> :)
[01:17] <eboyjr_> JazzDrummerGirl: The proxy for MetroPCS is down right now.
[01:17] <Ben64> someone needs to upgrade their servers
[01:17] <Ben64> arrrrrrrgh
[01:17] <GuidMorrow> crap,,,
[01:17] <GuidMorrow> where's ben64 at
 JazzDrummerGirl: The proxy for MetroPCS is down right now. << where did you get that info?
[01:17] <deco> what's a netsplit ?
[01:17] <JazzDrummerGirl> eboyjr_:  your a fag\
[01:18] <losher> Irishmanluke: you can mix & match them, so try both & see which you like more...
[01:18] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: here
[01:18] <Ben64> deco: there are multiple servers linked together for irc on big networks
[01:18] <Irishmanluke> edbian: but you generally tell people to use apt-get on here?
[01:18] <Ben64> when the connection is lost between two or more of them, this happens
[01:18] <eboyjr_> !netsplit | deco
[01:18] <JazzDrummerGirl> eboyjr_:  you suck
[01:18] <bazhang> JazzDrummerGirl, that language is not appropriate for here
[01:18] <deco> Ben64: oh thanks
[01:18] <GuidMorrow> Ben64: abrowser-3.5-branding: "Error: Conflicts with the installed package "firefox-3.5-branding"
[01:18] <bazhang> JazzDrummerGirl, stop that
[01:18] <losher> JazzDrummerGirl: uncalled for...
[01:18] <eboyjr_> JazzDrummerGirl: Can you please stop harrasing us? We are here only to help.
[01:18] <JazzDrummerGirl> bazhang:  eboyjr is my freind sitting next too me
[01:18] <edbian> Irishmanluke: I do. Just so I know that what I tell them to do is the only thing that happens.  Aptitude will auto-remove and things like that behind the scenes
[01:19] <Iyunkateus> !netsplit | Iyunkateus
[01:19] <eboyjr_> JazzDrummerGirl: Excuse me?
[01:19] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: then you'd have to not use firefox branding or abrowser, gotta choose
[01:19] <JazzDrummerGirl> bazhang:  hes not helping
[01:19] <bazhang> JazzDrummerGirl, take chat elsewhere, and be civil
[01:19] <Tylor> I need help bridging eth0 and eth1, so that i can connect a desktop computer to my laptop and use the wireless card in the laptop (Ubuntu 9.04)
[01:19] <GuidMorrow> !language > JazzDrummerGirl
[01:19] <Iyunkateus> oh wait what does that do
[01:19] <JazzDrummerGirl> eboyjr_:  devin stop it
[01:19] <ikanobori> !offtopic > JazzDrummerGirl
[01:19] <ikanobori> Ot does that not work?
[01:19] <Ben64> ubottu is gone
[01:20] <xsebsx_> on the terminal how do i copy a file that's onthe desktop to folder /etc/udev/rules.d/ ? i know it involved cp
[01:20] <Ben64> lost in the intertubes
[01:20] <edbian> !hi > edbian
[01:20] <JazzDrummerGirl> all i was trying to do is get help
[01:20] <i00nsu> so the spam/flood has nothing about what happens?
[01:20] <Iyunkateus> I used !netsplit thinking it was something informational
[01:20] <edbian> xsebsx_: "cp /path/to/file /path/where/you/want/it/to/go" lol
[01:20] <JazzDrummerGirl> eboyjr_: stop trying to mess with me i need my internet
[01:20] <x3017x> xsebsx_,  sudo cp ~Desktop/nameof.file /etc/udev/rules.d
[01:20] <eboyjr_> JazzDrummerGirl: Seriously you need to know how to ask questions and harrasing the people who are trying to help.
[01:21] <zvacet> xsebsx_  : cd Desktop and then sudo cp filename /etc/udev/rules.d/
[01:21] <edbian> xsebsx_: cp /home/xsebsx/Desktop/<file> /etc/udev/rules.d/<newFileName>
[01:21] <edbian> xsebsx_: as root
[01:21] <chrisn2323> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[01:21] <Irishmanluke> oh wow
[01:21] <Ben64> this channel has gotten quite crazy in the past few minutes
[01:21] <ikanobori> Good.   The channel is a mess right now!  Where are the ops?
[01:21] <GuidMorrow> Ben64: All packages are installed ...
[01:21] <Tylor> Could someone please explain how to bridge my ethernet and wireless adapters in ubuntu?
[01:22] <edbian> Tylor: Do you want to share your connection?
[01:22] <GuidMorrow> NOOOOOOOOO
[01:22] <edbian> Tylor: Is that what you mean by bride?
[01:22] <edbian> bridge*
[01:22] <ikanobori> edbian: bazhang is here and actively engaging in actions.
[01:22] <Irishmanluke> let's see how to ignore join/part messages from #ubuntu in irssi lol
[01:22] <edbian> bazhang: Thanks!
[01:22] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: isn't it good to have stuff installed?
[01:22] <eboyjr_> test
[01:22] <Tylor> edbian: yes. Need to get internet on a desktop comp, and all i have is wireless.
[01:22] <lstarnes> Irishmanluke: try /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits nicks
[01:22] <edbian> Tylor: PM me
[01:22] <GuidMorrow> !imagebin
[01:23] <fuzzybunny> hey everyone for some reason I cannot connect to my brothers machine unless he pings me or I do a arp -s. As far as I know I do not have any firewalls or anything enabled and I ran one of these networking scripts I found on the internet and it said I had 2 default routes but I am not really sure what could be causing the problem. Are there any networking experts that could help shed some light on whats happening?
[01:23] <GuidMorrow> hey, ubottu crashed!
[01:23] <Tylor> edbian: dont know how. sorry :)
[01:23] <e370> everyones dissapeard :(
[01:23] <edbian> Tylor: Right click my name and click "Private Message"
[01:23] <losher> GuidMorrow: that does happen occasionally. It's software ya' know...
[01:23] <joem> is anybody running ubuntu 9.04 on a macbook?
[01:23] <majuk> fuzzybunny: I *think* you can resolve that by adding your bro's IP and a hostname to /etc/hosts
[01:23] <edbian> Tylor: "Private Chat"
[01:24] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic
[01:24] <Iyunkateus> What does !netsplit | name do?
[01:24] <xsebsx_> cp: missing destination file operand after `~Desktop/60-persistent-storage.rules/etc/udev/rules.d Try `cp --help' for more information.
[01:24] <xsebsx_> sebastian@jaunty:~/Documents$
[01:24] <e370> linux has netsplits?
[01:24] <Irishmanluke> lstarnes: thank you much appreciated
[01:24] <e370> :(
[01:24] <e370> not cool
[01:24] <lstarnes> Iyunkateus: it tells someone about netsplits
[01:24] <Ben64> Iyunkateus: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:24] <zatoichi> holy shit
[01:24] <marcelo_> how do I specify the rpath compiler flag when installing a gnu package from source?
[01:25] <i00nsu> anyway, th0r or ben64, can any of you know a forum/site/pastebin of all packages needed to make my own?
[01:25] <GuidMorrow> Ben64: something went wrong with the firefox upgrade : http://imagebin.org/60416
[01:25] <lstarnes> Irishmanluke: I strongly recommend not using it
[01:25] <binskipy2u> hey guys if i were to do a MINIMAL install of ubuntu.. HOW can do a command line install of synaptic (apt-get install synaptic?) if so.. how can I add a repo in commmand line to synaptic or apt
[01:25] <Irishmanluke> just for this channel
[01:25] <binskipy2u> if i want something different
[01:25] <lstarnes> Irishmanluke: it's annoying when someone who you're helping suddenly leaves or changes nicks and you can't see it
[01:25] <Iyunkateus> Oh, well it just seemed kinda suspicious that ubottu crashed right after I used !netsplit
[01:25] <fuzzybunny> majuk, I did add him to my hosts
[01:25] <Iyunkateus> I figured it tells you about netsplits
[01:25] <fuzzybunny> but the name was md
[01:25] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: how are you running it
[01:26] <majuk> fuzzybunny: I don't understand, 'the name was md'?
[01:26] <binskipy2u> i want to install a system from the command line.. but i want to be able if possible to add a repo to apt-get
[01:26] <GuidMorrow> what do you mean "how"...
[01:26] <binskipy2u> so i can add something to the list of apt-get install blah blah
[01:26] <majuk> fuzzybunny: You can name him whatever you please in your hosts file
[01:26] <dividebyzer0> fuzzybunny: nice name.. is that from the fuzzybunny virus?
[01:26] <Ben64> GuidMorrow: 1. firefox isn't running; 2. ???; 3. firefox is running
[01:26] <Ben64> what did you do in step 2
[01:26] <lstarnes> GuidMorrow: try running it as firefox-3.5
[01:27] <lstarnes> GuidMorrow: it doesn't replace the existing firefox package
[01:27] <losher> binskipy2u: apt-get gets its list of repositories from /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:27] <fuzzybunny> majuk, well that is his username so he just told me to put <IP_ADDRESS> md into my hosts
[01:27] <dividebyzer0> is there some trick to using wine?
[01:27] <binskipy2u> i know ..but how do i add a line to it while in command line
[01:27] <eboyjr_> bazhang: Am I muted? JazzDrummerGirl was using my network but she is annoying me
[01:27] <fuzzybunny> dividebyzer0, oh no I just like it so I called myself that
[01:27] <binskipy2u> so i dont have to install a desktop/synaptic
[01:27] <binskipy2u> so i can do it from command line
[01:27] <fuzzybunny> dividebyzer0, it is kind of cute sounding
[01:27] <binskipy2u> if that question makes any sense at all
[01:28] <losher> binskipy2u: you have to use a text editor. Or do something fancy with the echo command...
[01:28] <lstarnes> binskipy2u: use a text editor such as nano, vim, or emacs
[01:28] <majuk> fuzzybunny: Hmmm... how are you trying to connect>
[01:28] <jonestodd> binskipy2u:  The repository you add has to be valid for the software, then you can run update and install from the clie as normal.
[01:28] <xsebsx_> edbian:  can you help me?
[01:28] <losher> eboyjr_: we can hear you...
[01:29] <binskipy2u> thank you
[01:29] <Iyunkateus> sudo revive ubottu
[01:29] <dividebyzer0> how do you use wine?
[01:29] <GuidMorrow> what is this! "Shiretoko"
[01:29] <jonestodd> binskipy2u: I have one for Miro on ibex, after editing the file, apt-get update, 'apt-get install miro'.  It also adds it to synapic.
[01:29] <Iyunkateus> Firefox
[01:29] <lstarnes> GuidMorrow: firefox 3.5
[01:29] <Iyunkateus> GuidMorrow, it's the code name for FF 3.5
[01:29] <GuidMorrow> ripoff!
[01:29] <lstarnes> GuidMorrow: shiretoko is the development codename for firefox 3.5
[01:29] <binskipy2u> thanks jones
[01:29] <dividebyzer0> shiretoko didnt like a lot of java stuff
[01:30] <lstarnes> GuidMorrow: it is EXACTLY the same except for different branding
[01:30] <dividebyzer0> so i went back to 3.0
[01:30] <qe2eqe> stwtf
[01:30] <losher> dividebyzer0: basically you install it, then configure it, then type "wine <windows .exe filename>"
[01:30] <binskipy2u> i want to install a minimal desktop using command line.. i have the directions how to do it, installing ubunutu
[01:30] <binskipy2u> but i want Kde 4.3.0 instead
[01:30] <binskipy2u> so i want to know how to add the ppa repos
[01:30] <dividebyzer0> losher:
[01:30] <binskipy2u> in the command line
[01:30] <binskipy2u> soi can apt-get install kde-core
[01:30] <dividebyzer0> losher: so you HAVE to run it in a command line?
[01:30] <binskipy2u> and it be 4.3.0
[01:30] <bazhang> binskipy2u, ask in #kubuntu yet?
[01:30] <majuk> fuzzybunny: Nevermind, that's not really important. If it won't establish until you run ARP -a or he pings you, that means you're not getting an ARP table entry for him without forcing one. I'm not sure what would cause that, unless you have conflicting DNS servers or something strange.
[01:31] <fuzzybunny> majuk, even if I just ping his machine I cannot ping it unless I do arp -s or until he pings me
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> binskipy2u:  'kubuntu-desktop' is the 'kde' desktop enviroment package.. but Ive no idea on the versions that are inthe repos.. Yoiumay need to add some newer repos for the latest
[01:31] <binskipy2u> not many people in there, no responses
[01:31] <robert__> how do i put a .img onto a flash drive? i wanna try out moblin
[01:31] <lstarnes> GuidMorrow: you may want to go to about:config and change general.useragent.extra.firefox to Firefox/3.5.2
[01:31] <binskipy2u> always more in here
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  with the 'dd' command normally
[01:31] <bazhang> binskipy2u, ie the /topic in there?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  the 'ubuntu netbook remix' page gives details on how to do it.
[01:31] <binskipy2u> sorry to ask in here.. not many people in there
[01:31] <binskipy2u> and i have the question posted on kubuntu/ubuntu forums
[01:32] <dividebyzer0> is there an add-on of somekind that makes ubuntu look like mac OS? as far as the desktop/panels?
[01:32] <jonestodd> binskipy2u: here is an example for a Chromium on Jaunty, just copy into sources.list and update. https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> the KDE desktop is not going to be 'minimal
[01:32] <losher> dividebyzer0: um, dunno. Just because I do doesn't mean you'll have to. Isn't there a howto somewhere? Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[01:32] <majuk> dividebyzer0: Try Google.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  theres some mac4lin theme page/gizmos - but its not worth the effort.
[01:32]  * shamm recalls Enlightenment
[01:32] <dividebyzer0> ah
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  install gnome-do and use its  'dock' theme - its a decent dock iof you want a dock
[01:32] <puff> A friend asked me to help him set up RAID 1 on his new ubuntu box.  How hard is this?
[01:33] <puff> I looked into it about two years ago and it seemed doable but non-obvious, has it gotten easier?
[01:33] <majuk> puff: It's easy.
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> !raid | puff
[01:33] <jonestodd> binskipy2u: go to the link I gave and read the 'Read about installing' link.  It should answer your questions.
[01:33] <majuk> puff: Now go do it.
[01:33] <majuk> :D
[01:33] <ikanobori> Dr_Willis: Apparently ubottu has died.
[01:33] <bazhang> binskipy2u, there wont be a minimal install if you include kde4.3 as Dr_Willis states
[01:34] <GuidMorrow> you mean ubottu had a kernel panic?
[01:34] <x404x> what scared it ?
[01:34] <majuk> GuidMorrow: I asked it the meaning of life.
[01:34] <binskipy2u> just want to do kde-core
[01:34] <binskipy2u> the bare minimum
[01:34] <binskipy2u> and add what i want
[01:34] <majuk> It spit out 220 numbers and crashed.
[01:34] <x404x> ah 42 ;=)
[01:34] <GuidMorrow> all these people picking its brain all at once made its CPU get fried
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> even kde-core issent veyr minimal. :)
[01:35] <binskipy2u> less then kde or kubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <GuidMorrow> maybe it got stuck in that netsplity
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> binskipy2u:  so ... whats stopping you from doing it?
[01:35] <Ben64> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[01:35] <Irishmanluke> majuk: did you get that from pi
[01:35] <binskipy2u> i want to do it from command line
[01:35] <TheCheeze> so someone in here said winrar doesnt work on wine?
[01:35] <losher> while ubottu is down, make do with http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <binskipy2u> nevermind, i guess i'm asking it the wrong way
[01:35] <binskipy2u> or dont know how to ask the right question
[01:35] <TheCheeze> the 3.90 final version does. i just tested
[01:36] <DigitalKiwi> winrar in wine? lolwut
[01:36] <GuidMorrow> while you guys sort things out I'll reboot to windows
[01:36] <overcod3> hola
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> binskipy2u:  you said you wanted to install the kde minimal stuff.. use the package manager to find out what you want  to install then i guess. i dont think theres a 'kde-minimal' package. but you should install the kde apps you want first then see what else you may need i guess
[01:36] <DigitalKiwi> do tell why you would want that
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> DigitalKiwi:  i do Winrar in wine all the time
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> because winrar has more features/supported stuff then the rar native clients.
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> for one.
[01:37] <losher> binskipy2u: well, start with telling us why you've decided you need kde3.whatever...
[01:37] <TheCheeze> DigitalKiwi, yes. i was told earlier it wouldnt work, but i tried anyway and it installed and ran fine on newest version
[01:38] <zyrell> hola
[01:38] <DigitalKiwi> cool I guess
[01:38] <zyrell> or hi..
[01:38] <squiggie> I am needing some help compiling mediatomb from source. I've got the source from sourceforge and it just says to ./configure make and make install but I don't even see those files in the code.
[01:38] <losher> TheCheeze: so much for advice...
[01:38] <overcod3> hola zyrell
[01:38] <DigitalKiwi> does it actually work or just seem to work?
[01:38] <zyrell> opera rulz!
[01:38] <xsebsx_> how do i switch the working directory back to / on the terminal?
[01:38] <TheCheeze> it actually works
[01:38] <losher> squiggie: no configure file?
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> xemacs:  try 'cd /'
[01:38] <majuk> squiggie: make is a command, not a file
[01:38] <TheCheeze> i extracted a 6.4gb iso from a .001-style download
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> xemacs:  might be tme to read a few bash beginner guides. :)
[01:39] <squiggie> losher: it has a configure.ac and a makefile.am but no configure file
[01:39] <zyrell> to format ubuntu anyone know how?
[01:39] <Ingsoc> ok I installed ubuntu on a friends laptop as a dual boot system, and when I did i let ubuntu take up as much space as it wanted (it was a brand new laptop with a fresh windows vista install on it) now I want to shrink the ubuntu partition and expand the windows partition to give her more room in windows. Can gparted do this without nuking everything?
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> zyrell:  you format 'fileysstems' ubuntu is an operating system.. what are you trying to do EXACTLY?
[01:39] <KB1JWQ> Ingsoc: Yeah.  For best results do it from a liveCD.
[01:39] <majuk> Ingsoc: Yes
[01:40] <Ingsoc> cool ty guys
[01:40] <jocelynm2> How can I make CPU frequency scaling work correctly on a 1.6ghz pentium m? I'm stuck at 600mhz, tried $ sudo cpufreq-set, etc
[01:40] <qe2eqe> say man
[01:40] <losher> squiggie: try running autoconf. That should generate a configure file from configure.ac.
[01:40] <qe2eqe> tbug
[01:40] <overcod3> algun español?
[01:40] <qe2eqe> ```tsay
[01:40] <overcod3> xD
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> jocelynm2:  for my machines it normally says the slower speed,s then it throttles up as needed.  often so  quickly i  rarely notice it going up/back down
[01:41] <losher> overcod3: solamente ingles. Intenta #ubuntu-es
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> zyrell:  tell it to the channel please.
[01:41] <Ben64> jocelynm2: how do you know it doesn't go up automatically?
[01:41] <DigitalKiwi> Ingsoc: gparted can theoretically resize file systems without data loss, in practice i don't trust it ;p
[01:41] <jocelynm2> Dr_Willis: I realize this, $ cpufreq-info reports a minimum and a maximum of 600mhz for governor "ondemand"
[01:41] <LinuxGold> I recall back in Slackware  days where I can setconsolefont my VT -- what is binary for that in ubuntu?
[01:41] <Ingsoc> DigitalKiwi: have you had problems in the past?
[01:41] <overcod3> gracias losher
[01:41] <TheCheeze> mobile systems are designed to underclcok themselves when not under a load so as to save battery and prevent overheating
[01:42] <DigitalKiwi> Ingsoc: yes
[01:42] <Ben64> jocelynm2: do you have anything that shows the current cpu speed
[01:42] <jocelynm2> Yeah, the gnome panel applet
[01:42] <zyrell> ok
[01:42] <Ben64> jocelynm2: dual core cpu or single?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> LinuxGold:  Hmm.. i rember doing that recently.. i forget the command however.  'setfont' 'setconsolefont' or somthing like that
[01:42] <jocelynm2> single
[01:43] <Ingsoc> DigitalKiwi: resizing an existing windows partition?
[01:43] <Ben64> jocelynm2: open a terminal, type in "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null"
[01:43] <zyrell> when i start ubuntu a message error appears, it says "file damage please reinstall windows root system32 hal.dll
[01:43] <Ben64> speed *should* go up to maximum
[01:43] <DigitalKiwi> resizing any partition
[01:43] <losher> And they said high-school spanish would never be good for anything.
[01:43] <Ingsoc> DigitalKiwi: How long ago? What version of gparted?
[01:43] <jocelynm2> Ben64, one sescond
[01:44] <jocelynm2> I tried this, as per recommendation of a forum thread -- $ sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand -d 600000 -u 1600000 -c 0
[01:44] <c_korn> how can I start another gpg agent when the one I had running turned into a zombie ?
[01:44] <DigitalKiwi> Ingsoc: i don't recall
[01:45] <Ingsoc> DigitalKiwi: Are we talking years ago or recently?
[01:45] <jocelynm2> Ben64, it's running in my terminal, no change on the cpufreq
[01:45] <Mike_lifeguard> If I have a windows partition, can I "boot" that up as a VM from inside ubuntu? or something like that?
[01:45] <DigitalKiwi> the makers themselves say to backup all data ;p
[01:45] <squiggie> losher: that created my configure file, and now I"m getting configure errors...go figure. Thanks for the help though :)
[01:45] <DigitalKiwi> umm, a few months with whatever the newest gparted was at the time
[01:45] <Irishmanluke> c_korn: I have no clue what happens when you try to kill it
[01:46] <Ben64> jocelynm2: try "sudo cpufreq-selector -g performance"
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> one should alsays 'backup all data'
[01:46] <c_korn> Irishmanluke: it just "lives" http://pastebin.com/d2afe651b
[01:47] <Ingsoc> hmm now I am nervous
[01:47] <beatbreaker> Ok, so i'm having some problems with networking on Ubuntu, netowrking will not work up until i get onto the desktop, and i know the service starts way before that. Now a boot will take about 4 minutes because it gets stuck
[01:47] <Irishmanluke> c_korn: kill -s 9?
[01:47] <LinuxGold> Phmm
[01:47] <losher> squiggie: the fact that there was no configure file suggests to me that you got a development version that's still being worked on and not ready for general use. Poke around the web page a bit more...
[01:47] <c_korn> Irishmanluke: nope
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  wireless or wired? (always good to mention which is it)
[01:48] <nimrod_1491> hey guys
[01:48] <beatbreaker> Wired
[01:48] <DigitalKiwi> Ingsoc: it's not that it always fails, or that it doesn't work, it's just don't do it on stuff you care a lot about, new installs means you shouldn't have too many problems in both a performing the actions and b recovering if they fail
[01:48] <nimrod_1491> how do u get skype to work on linux
[01:48] <nimrod_1491> im a 100% n00b
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  static or dynamic ip? anything special about the network?
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> nimrod_1491:  i found/installed teh skype package from the Medibuntu repositorys I recall.
[01:49] <Ben64> i always suggest using a static ip, i don't trust that dhcp character
[01:49] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, set to static from the router. I would love to set the static address from Ubuntu but it's impossible in 9.04
[01:49] <nimrod_1491> k
[01:49] <nimrod_1491> ty
[01:49] <nimrod_1491> ^_^
[01:49] <Ben64> beatbreaker: cannot be impossible :|
[01:49] <beatbreaker> i wasted 4 days trying to get it to work
[01:49] <jocelynm2> Ben64: it hangs at the terminal
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> I never use static ip any more.  -  well.. actually my router lets me set basically a 'rember forever' based on mac setting. :) so the ips are static.. but the dns and other stuff get changed as needed.
[01:50] <Ingsoc> DigitalKiwi: Yeah but I did the install about 1 year ago. I guess I'll have to clean out my thimb drive
[01:50] <jocelynm2> Ben64: nevermind, it completed the command
[01:50] <DigitalKiwi> oh i thought you said fresh installs >.>
[01:50] <losher> beatbreaker: 'set to static from the router' sounds like a contradiction in terms...
[01:50] <beatbreaker> yeah i do the same, from the router. I also use Arch Linux and it was very easy to set it from the computer
[01:50] <jocelynm2> Ben64: Performance is now selected in the applet
[01:50] <DigitalKiwi> woot arch
[01:50] <jocelynm2> and still 600mhz
[01:50] <Ingsoc> DigitalKiwi: Well it was a fresh install when I did it. ;)
[01:50] <DigitalKiwi> hehe
[01:50] <majuk> ;p;
[01:50] <majuk> lol
[01:51] <beatbreaker> look i'm not a computer graduate, i taught myself everything i'm sorry if i don't know my terms properley
[01:51] <jocelynm2> running dd
[01:51] <beatbreaker> the fact is that i've got a problem getting the service [networking] to run properley on boot on my Ubuntu machine
[01:51] <losher> Dr_Willis: I *always* use static for my desktops. DNS gets proxied through the router so it never changes on the desktop.
[01:51] <jocelynm2> and it's frustrating, because all of my apps keep locking up
[01:52] <losher> beatbreaker: sorry, sometimes we nerds get a bit sidetracked...
[01:52] <beatbreaker> what can i do to fix this?
[01:52] <DigitalKiwi> geek > nerd
[01:52] <DigitalKiwi> nerds don't get girlz
[01:52] <beatbreaker> DigitalKiwi, true
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> they get nerd girls
[01:53] <Gnea> !offtopic
[01:53] <losher> wassamatter ubottu? cpu got your tongue?
[01:53] <bazhang> please take chat elsewhere
[01:54] <beatbreaker> So.... networking service huh, who can help? It boots, then hangs when i'm trying to mount a network share THEN the network starts only when i reach the desktop
[01:54] <DigitalKiwi> oi networkmanager?
[01:54] <maco> beatbreaker: if you need the network configured before network manager kicks in at the desktop, "man 5 interfaces" to see how to setup /etc/network/interfaces
[01:54] <nimrod_1491> oh btw
[01:54] <nimrod_1491> i downloaded it off the site
[01:55] <nimrod_1491> skype
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> never seen networkmanager start a network without logging into X
[01:55] <nimrod_1491> that is
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  what kind of network share?   the desktop is launched  concurently with the other services..   it shouldent start 'suddendly' when the desktop loads up
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> or well wireless, not sure about wired, think it does wired...
[01:55] <Maslow> Any of you happen to know the command to run the Nvidia X Server Settings panel?
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> <3 wicd
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> The desktop has the tools for the wireless passwords.. but it canbe setup where its not needed i recall.
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> nvidia-settings ?
[01:55] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, it's in fstab
[01:56] <Maslow> Hey that did it, thanks
[01:56] <DigitalKiwi> yw
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  samba or nfs share?
[01:56] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, samba share.
[01:56] <e370> How do i install ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img onto a USB flash drive
[01:56] <blackest_knight> e370 unetbootin
[01:56] <e370> wheres that
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  ive had some quirky issues with samba shares getting auto mounted.. I ended up mounting them from rc.local after a 'sleep 20' command. that let the network be sure to be up befor trying
[01:57] <e370> in terminal?
[01:57] <DigitalKiwi> blackest_knight: if it's a .img doesn't he just use dd?
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> You DONT use unetbooting to install a .img file to flash drive
[01:57] <DigitalKiwi> ^5 Dr_Willis
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> the ubuntu UNR homepage mentions the proper ways to isntall a .img to a flash drive.
[01:57] <jocelynm2> Ben64: Any ideas??
[01:57] <blackest_knight> i use it for an iso
[01:57] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, that's a good idea
[01:57] <losher> beatbreaker: comment out the share from your fstab and see if that solves the boot delay. If so, that will prove Dr_Willis theory, and also give you a workaround for the moment...
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> img is NOT an iso file, its a flash 'image'
[01:58] <puff> So, the normal advice for partitioning is that swap should be at least the same size as your RAM, maybe 1.5 or 2 t imes.
[01:58] <Ben64> jocelynm2: not sure, i've never had an issue with frequency scaling not working at all
[01:58] <e370> do you have a link to the guid?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  i also have had Huge issues with shutdowns taking forever whith mounted samba shares.. theres a way to run ascript on shutdown that forces the shares to unmount also.
[01:58] <puff> What do you do when your RAM is 192 GB?
[01:58] <blackest_knight> ok i was thinkin he wanted to install  netbook remix to a drive to install it
[01:58] <majuk> puff: ....what?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> e370:  check the ubuntu.com UNR page.
[01:58] <jocelynm2> it's very frustrating
[01:58] <Gnea> puff: use it
[01:59] <puff> majuk: Yeah, that's what I said :-).
[01:59] <majuk> puff: You have almost 200gigs of RAM? /Awesome/.
[01:59] <blackest_knight> puff:  sell microsoft
[01:59] <DigitalKiwi> you call up all your geek friends and brag about how much ram you have
[01:59] <Irishmanluke> c_korn: let's see you could try to kill the parent process
[01:59] <puff> majuk: That's the machine I'm installing the RAID on.
[01:59] <beatbreaker> but my problem is that network will only start when i get into my desktop, it doens't start when the other services start
[01:59] <losher> puff: in that case, you probably don't need a lot of swap, since you hopefully never run out of RAM
[01:59] <beatbreaker> i think fstab is part of it too ofcourse
[01:59] <puff> Yah, but knowing these guys...
[01:59] <puff> It's software to calculate radiation scatter.
[01:59] <Ben64> puff: depending on available space, i'd say like 2GB
[01:59] <c_korn> Irishmanluke: how do I find the parent process ?
[01:59] <maco> beatbreaker: try setting up /etc/network/interfaces
[02:00] <DigitalKiwi> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-swap-space.html puff
[02:00] <e370> do motherboards support 200gb of ram lol
[02:00] <maco> beatbreaker: network manager wont manage until you login, but the networking initscript will handle it if you do it with the interfaces file
[02:00] <Ben64> e370: some do, yes
[02:00] <DigitalKiwi> 16 gb apparently
[02:00] <majuk> puff: I would still think 200gigs would be enough to crunch those kinds of numbers.
[02:00] <e370> 16gb is the max supported atm
[02:00] <e370> im sure
[02:00] <DigitalKiwi> http://xkcd.com/619/ related
[02:00] <puff> majuk: Depends on how fast you want the answer.
[02:01] <blackest_knight> beatbreaker:  different services have different run levels you need to get networking to start at a low enough runlevel
[02:01] <losher> e370: someone asked about that yesterday. Do you have a cite for that claim?
[02:01] <maco> blackest_knight: you're overloading the term runlevel
[02:01] <beatbreaker> I want to get it to start early because it has to send a WOL command to the server, then it boots into XBMC
[02:01]  * LinuxGold is trying to figure out which file to download for setfont similiar to monospace size 9
[02:02] <e370> hell no lol just most boards ive looked at in the past supported upto16gb of ram, but the way things changed i wouldnt be suprised...
[02:02] <majuk> e370: Maybe by /standard/ mobos, I've worked with specialty equipment with 50+ gigs before.
[02:02] <majuk> Although never anything close to 200. That's a bit nuts.
[02:02] <e370> why would u even need 200gb of it
[02:02] <Varth> Can someone help me get Audacity to record input on a Lenovo S10 netbook running 9.04? Google has been no help.
[02:02] <blackest_knight> maco:  probably
[02:02] <losher> majuk: e370: well, those aren't desktops. They're megaservers...
[02:02] <majuk> e370: Calculate particle scatter of radiation something? :D
[02:02] <maco> beatbreaker: what is the S level of your network filesystem in /etc/rcS.d/ ?
[02:03] <maco> beatbreaker: networking is S40 on mine so i would hope your FS is somewhere after S40?
[02:03] <majuk> losher: Indeed. Puff doesn't seem to be working with a desktop.
[02:03] <maco> blackest_knight: all runlevels on ubuntu (save 0=shutdown, 6=reboot) are identical
[02:03] <e370> only one machine i know would need such memory Hadron partical accelirator in sweeden...
[02:04] <puff> I'm a little scared of what I'm going to find, to be honest... they didn't even ask me for advice in building this, let alone ask me to ask my friends who deal with hardware all the time (which is what I would have done anyway :-)
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> fstab is read/mounted befor the networking i imagine. since  some of the /whatever dirs may be needed to boot up
[02:04] <puff> For all I know, I'll show up and they'll have a MB that maxes out at 32GB.
[02:04] <puff> I guess, first thing I'll do is look at /proc, etc, before I commence to reinstalling with RAID.
[02:04] <DigitalKiwi> puff: did you see the link i sent?
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi> also i would like to subscribe to your news letter about this computer
[02:05] <puff> DigitalKiwi: Yeah :-).
[02:05] <puff> DigitalKiwi: I'll let you know how it turns out.
[02:05] <th0r> e370: the hadron is in switzerland....the one WITH the alps
[02:05] <jocelynm2> thanks for the help -- I'm gonna continue trying to get it to work correctly
[02:05] <blackest_knight> ok maco i bow to your superior knowledge but doesnt it depend on what run level your at as to you having a shell or a running x server
[02:06] <blackest_knight> th0r:  the hadron runs ubuntu ?
[02:06] <e370> i ment swissland lol
[02:06] <th0r> blackest_knight: it will when they upgrade it
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> blackest_knight:  'GDM' is just another service - ubuntu dosent  do the runlevele stuff like other/older disrtos do.
[02:07] <c_korn> Irishmanluke: ok, the parent process was gdm obviously :P
[02:07] <losher> blackest_knight: other linuxes would run at level 3 for shell only, and 5 for x11. Ubuntu messed with all that and runs at level 2 by default, which includes an X server
[02:07] <c_korn> Irishmanluke: but now it is restarted too. thanks for your help
[02:07] <blackest_knight> ok i admit it i'm too old :P
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> gdm is one of the last services loaded. thus X should start  as the other serices are all finishing up.
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> You Could launch gdm from  rc.local if you need X to be the absoutely LAST thing to load.
[02:08] <losher> blackest_knight: I'm so old I remember when spam didn't exist. Or browsers. Or transistors...
[02:09] <Ben64> i remember when there was no security on the internet
[02:09] <blackest_knight> my first stereo was mono and i first blew myself up with an 8 track
[02:09] <LinuxGold> losher: back in old days -- amiga, intellivision..
[02:09] <puff> http://xkcd.com/624/
[02:09] <Varth> Can someone help me get Audacity to record input on a Lenovo S10 netbook running 9.04? Google has been no help.
[02:09] <sanjay> my second hard disk is ext3 file format and while in intsalling xubuntu i assigned its mount point as /home/Foldername.But after the copmletetion of xubuntu installation.. in File System 's Home Folder it only showing Folder Name.It contains only Lost And Found Folder.But i can't access my second hard disk
[02:09] <blackest_knight> i started with a zx81  without the 16k ram pack
[02:10] <losher> blackest_knight: bah, 8-track. Dang newfangled gizmo technology. I remember b&w TV...
[02:10] <alexnet> Can someone help me with this command? sudo iptables-save >/etc/iptables.rules     result: Permission denied
[02:10] <DigitalKiwi> Ben64: wow I do too! wasn't that yesterday?
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> sanjay:  i hope you dident tell it to format the filesystem during install.
[02:10] <puff> losher: I'm so old I remember how breathtakingly fast 1200 baud modems seemed.
[02:10] <vaio> hi guys
[02:10] <vaio> from UK
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> sanjay:  figure out what device it is, try mounting it manually somewhere.
[02:10] <vaio> would appreciate some help if anyone is free
[02:10] <DigitalKiwi> ask
[02:10] <LinuxGold> vaio: spill the question
[02:10] <losher> puff: I telecommuted with a 2400 baud modem and a vt100. It was state of the art...
[02:10] <DigitalKiwi> well dont' spill it that's messy
[02:11] <LinuxGold> yeah, 56k was the latest
[02:11] <LinuxGold> DigitalKiwi: lol
[02:11] <vaio> i am pretty new to linux, and have been playin around with it on my sony netbook (pcg-tr5mp)...using xbuntu
[02:11] <puff> losher: you and your newfangled vt100!  I'll take my trusty old teleray t10 any day.
[02:11] <puff> Actually I won't.
[02:11] <vaio> i would llike to know how i can get the Fn keys working again
[02:11] <puff> But I remember vt52 :-).
[02:11] <blackest_knight> losher:  i remember b&w too mainly coz my dad wouldnt pay for colour
[02:11] <sanjay> Dr.Willis: i don't know how to mount manually.. i installed mount manager and gaprted partition manager.. but..  i can't  mount it.. can u pls help me on this regard
[02:11] <puff> vaio: Don't take any wooden nickles.
[02:11] <benkay> You mean media keys like Stop, Play, Next, and so forth?
[02:12] <vaio> nope
[02:12] <losher> blackest_knight: remember the little white dot when you switched off. And 'warming up' the tv 15 minutes before a program?
[02:12] <vaio> laptop function keys
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> sanjay:  ' the 'mount' command.        sudo mkdir /media/TEST      sudo mount /dev/SOMTHING /media/TEST
[02:12] <vaio> Fn - near the window key
[02:12] <drakonik> Alright. I am runing 9.10, and in the middle of a bunch of updates, I guess my computer crashed, because I first rebooted into "please fsck the disk" mode, and after I fsck'd it, it rebooted into a tty and when I tried to start gdm, it gave me a bunch of errors about not being able to secure a name, and therefore being unable to start.
[02:12] <puff> Emacs was also good for finding the bugs in your vt100 emulation.
[02:12] <vaio> Fn+f5 = increases breightness
[02:12] <vaio> etc
[02:12] <puff> I remember how overjoyed I was when I found out that the kermit modem client had good vt52 emulation.
[02:12] <vaio> Fn+f4 inc volume
[02:12] <losher> puff: nice one...
[02:13] <alexnet> Why am I getting Permission denied when running a sudo command?
[02:13] <drakonik> So, a quick answer that might help me is, where are the X server error logs?
[02:13] <vaio> i thought the latest kernal etc came with the modules
[02:13] <vaio> any ideas?
[02:13] <puff> My brother figured out how to reprogram the vt100 answerback buffer.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> alexnet:  give details to the channel.
[02:13] <puff> Back in college.
[02:13] <losher> drakonik: /var/log/Xorg.log*
[02:13] <th0r> drakonik: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:13] <benkay> vaio, Brightness is usually handled in the BIOS (although evidently not if it isn't working for you). Volume should indeed be handled by your desktop environment.
[02:13] <puff> So, for a brief time, if you fingered his account, it logged you off.
[02:13] <Sylphid> how can i find the native block size of a storage device?
[02:13] <beatbreaker> sorry i'm still here working on the netowrk, i just was on the phone, I'm going to try to edit rc.local now, and follow the rest of the gueestions people have made down
[02:14] <losher> puff: I remember that. It wasn't popular at work...
[02:14] <blackest_knight> losher:  yes and watching the american ussr linkup in orbit, not so sure about the moonlandings thou
[02:14] <blackest_knight> alexnet: try sudo su and try it
[02:14] <alexnet> When running sudo iptables-save >/etc/iptables.rules  I recieve the message : -bash: /etc/iptables.rules: Permission denied.   Any idea why?
[02:14] <benkay> vaio, Fire up a terminal and start the program xev. Press the keys and see what kind of output you get.
[02:14] <drakonik> alright, time to skim the X logs and see what I can find
[02:14] <vaio> ok thanks
[02:14] <DigitalKiwi> wow ubuntu really is for old people
[02:14] <e370> are ubuntu updates important?
[02:14] <vaio> benkay can i pm ..its kinda hectic in here
[02:14] <lamer_> naw updating is for wimps
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> e370:  only oif you consider security and stability imporntant
[02:15] <lamer_> much better to leave buggy code on your systems
[02:15] <lamer_> =)
[02:15] <DigitalKiwi> if it works why break it with newer more buggy code?
[02:15] <DigitalKiwi> look at xorg ;p
[02:15] <alexnet> blackest_knight, that worked... whats sudo su?
[02:15] <alexnet> blackest_knight and how do i get out of my leet # prompt?
[02:15] <losher> DigitalKiwi: well, sometimes it doesn't work...
[02:15] <blackest_knight> exit
[02:15] <maco> blackest_knight: not in the debian world. outside debian, runlevel 2&4 are meaningless (ubuntu runs in 2). 3 = text login, no gui. 5= gui login. that doesnt mean you pass through runlevel 3 on the way to runlevel 5 though
[02:15] <Ben64> alexnet: CTRL+D
[02:15] <drakonik> hrm
[02:16] <Ben64> it's the leetest way to get out of a terminal
[02:16] <drakonik> Okay, the log isn't tell me anything useful
[02:16] <ritztech> anyone kno of a good program like dreamweaver in windows
[02:16] <maco> blackest_knight: in the ubuntu, 2-5 are all the same thing
[02:16] <maco> ritztech: kompozer?
[02:16] <th0r> let's ask drakonik what he thinks about updates
[02:16] <drakonik> haha
[02:16] <e370> so yes its important to update
[02:16] <e370> :P
[02:16] <drakonik> Updates are a good thing, as long as your computer is stable enough to complete them safely.
[02:16] <sanjay> Dr_willis:
[02:16] <sanjay>  it is not working
[02:17] <paissad-hp> hi everybody !
[02:17] <e370> my pc is about 2004/2005 dated :\
[02:17] <ritztech> would it work if i install it on the Kde
[02:17] <blackest_knight> that would make sense if they dropped the other runlevels
[02:17] <drakonik> Mine is not, which is why I'm in this situation. The xorg logs aren't teling me anything definite. I'm not seeing any "ERROR: CANNOT DO THIS" lines in the logs
[02:17] <drakonik> Hm. Is it safe to remove the logs? Or at least rename them?
[02:17] <SpiceMan> ritztech: most programs that start/include a K in their name are from the KDE development group
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> sanjay:  on irc you want to be verbose, and concise. the phrase 'its not working' tells me very little.  You may want to research how the 'mount' command and 'linux mount fileysstems'  works.    I just HOPE you dident accidently format your data drive
[02:18] <th0r> drakonik: might check /var/log/messages and dmesg
[02:18] <drakonik> Hrm.
[02:18] <sagaci> Ben64: what is?
[02:18] <drakonik> Alright th0r
[02:18] <ritztech> thats kinda nice to know even though it shows it for ubuntu
[02:18] <losher> alexnet: you'll like this: it runs iptables-save as root, then returns to the regular user to write the output to /etc/iptables.rules, which fails because regular users can't write to /etc
[02:18] <Ben64> sagaci: huh?
[02:19] <SealedWithAKiss> Does anybody have any experience running Medieval War II under WINE in Ubuntu Linux? Or any advice for running any Windows based games under Linux?
[02:19] <beatbreaker> maco, you suggested to have a look in /etc/network/interfaces - what should i do there? it looks like this now:
[02:19] <beatbreaker> auto lo
[02:19] <beatbreaker> iface lo inet loopback
[02:19] <drakonik> oh no
[02:19] <DigitalKiwi> SpiceMan: kompozer isn't kde
[02:19] <Ben64> SealedWithAKiss: check winehq.org for lists of games and programs that work with wine
[02:19] <drakonik> in dmesg, xorg is having a bunch of segfaults
[02:19] <drakonik> Oh, this is bad
[02:19] <DigitalKiwi> it's not even Qt
[02:19] <maco> beatbreaker: setup a stanza for the interface you want to connect with. "man 5 interfaces" explains the syntax
[02:20] <th0r> drakonik: then maybe you shouldn't look
[02:20] <drakonik> haha
[02:20] <e370> right thats that sorted now where do i find this usb-imagewriter?
[02:20] <SpiceMan> DigitalKiwi: I've just found out that XD
[02:20] <maco> beatbreaker: it should setup the interface at boot instead of waiting for the network manager gui to initialize. the flip side is that it will not be able to be modified using the network manager gui anymore. youll have to use the file
[02:20] <blackest_knight> SealedWithAKiss:  all i can do is recomend looking at the codeweavers site its pretty good at showing what might work
[02:20] <maco> SpiceMan: kompozer = mozilla webpage creator
[02:20] <th0r> drakonik: just a shot in the dark, try reinstalling xorg from the cli
[02:20] <drakonik> Hm. Can I install the x server and such fresh?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> e370:  http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download-netbook    --> how to install UNR link
[02:20] <drakonik> haha
[02:21] <drakonik> My thoughts exactly, th0r
[02:21] <drakonik> My main concern was keeping the config
[02:21] <drakonik> While wiping the binaries and writing them over fresh
[02:21] <drakonik> Alright, worth a shot.
[02:21] <DigitalKiwi> your sentence would better be constructed, even though this is less the case now... "most programs in kde start with K"
[02:21] <losher> alexnet: try
[02:21] <beatbreaker> maco, i'm very happy to have it managed in the CLI, i don't like the GUI anyway
[02:21] <losher> ERC> alexnet: try sudo bash -c "iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules" if you're still listening. And if you're not, your attention span is too short...
[02:21] <th0r> drakonik: sudo apt-get remove xorg && sudo apt-get install xorg...should keep the configs and dump the binaries
[02:22] <beatbreaker> maco, is there a readme about it somewhere too? I'm reading the MAN now
[02:22] <alexnet> losher, the sudo su stuff ran and worked, should i try that still?
[02:22] <dividebyzer0> anybody avail to help me with Wine?
[02:22] <drakonik> hm
[02:22] <maco> beatbreaker: the manpage is all ive used. there's a readme for wpa supplicant that can explain wpa syntax for wireless, but its pretty simple "wpa-ssid linksys" and "wpa-psk thisismypassword" lines
[02:22] <losher> alexnet: if you have it working, that's fine...
[02:22] <drakonik> see, th0r
[02:22] <drakonik> That's way better than what I just did
[02:23] <drakonik> sudo apt-get remove x*
[02:23] <drakonik> D:
[02:23] <drakonik> whoo
[02:23] <donavan_> does any one know if they fixed the issues with ATI cards using multiple monitors at different resolutions?
[02:23] <th0r> drakonik: well...that WILL clean things up
[02:23] <sagaci> Ben64: what's the leetest way to get out of a terminal, i missed it
[02:23] <alexnet> losher, will i need to do somethign special like this for the start-up script in the network interface?
[02:23] <cornjuliox> ok i'm having a little problem here, it looks like I can't play mp3s stored locally when I have youtube open and vice versa.
[02:24] <Ben64> sagaci: CTRL+D
[02:24] <dividebyzer0> wine wont work for me, says I am missing a DLL. When I put the DLL in the folder and run it, it goes crazy and gives me another error
[02:24] <Dayofswords> leetest way? is the x not cool enough for ya?
[02:24] <chupy> how can i shut up an aplication in linux that dont have a silence button?
[02:24] <DigitalKiwi> sagaci: you create a bash forkbomb and crash your system, that is how i do it
[02:24] <Ben64> Dayofswords: mouse is slower than keyboard
[02:24] <beatbreaker> maco, i'm twrrible at netowrking, it's all greek to me. anyway i'm not on wireless thank god
[02:24] <redrebel> is there a way to connect to my ubuntu using the COM1 interface?
[02:25] <maco> beatbreaker: do you use dhcp?
[02:25] <drakonik> Okay.
[02:25] <th0r> redrebel: it is probably /dev/ttyS0 or some such...not Com1
[02:25] <losher> alexnet: the sudo bash workaround above should work from a script. Test it, of course...
[02:25] <beatbreaker> maco, yeah, but the IP is fixed
[02:25] <drakonik> "Connection 1.52 is not allowed to own org.Gnome.Displaymanager due to conflicts in the config file"
[02:26] <drakonik> That's the error I get.
[02:26] <wiggywo0t1> i need to obtain all usb modules and firmware classes
[02:26] <alexnet> losher, well im just adding   pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules  to /network/interfaces... so maybe i should just chmod o+x the iptables.rules?
[02:26] <SealedWithAKiss> How do I add a new application to by running winecfg ?
[02:26] <Irishmanluke> DigitalKiwi: nice
[02:26] <wiggywo0t1>  modprobe uhci_hcd
[02:26] <wiggywo0t1> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[02:26] <wiggywo0t1> FATAL: Module uhci_hcd not found.
[02:26] <wiggywo0t1> can anyone tell me what usb modules / firm ware classes i need ?
[02:27] <maco> beatbreaker: you mean there's a dhcp reservation?
[02:27] <losher> alexnet: that should be fine, It's not like the rules change very often...
[02:27] <alexnet> losher, i'll test it of course... but theoretically speaking now that I have the script saved all im worried about is it beind executed later right?
[02:27] <DigitalKiwi> Irishmanluke: did it just the other day with my lua script >.>
[02:27] <Irishmanluke> DigitalKiwi: what was it :(){:|:&} ?
[02:27] <DigitalKiwi> epic lulz
[02:27] <alexnet> losher okay, thanks
[02:27] <beatbreaker> yeah, well i don't know the technical term for it but the router assigns the mac address the same IP every time
[02:28] <maco> beatbreaker: ok if the router's assigning it then its dhcp and you dont even need to think hard :)
[02:28] <blackest_knight> redrebel: should be why that interface?
[02:28] <alexnet> Another question: ignoring what my router actually does, how does one do the ubuntu-side configuration for a static ip? eg <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:28] <maco> beatbreaker: just put "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[02:28] <losher> alexnet: easy enought to test, just run iptables -L after a reboot and make sure the rules are all there like they're supposed to be...
[02:29] <C-S-B> Irishmanluke: a way to bring you a world of pain.
[02:29] <beatbreaker> maco, into interfaces?
[02:29] <maco> beatbreaker: yep
[02:29] <maco> beatbreaker: just put that on its own line
[02:29] <Irishmanluke> does anyone have a really simple question for me to answer so I can feel smart?
[02:29] <maco> beatbreaker: if you need it to redo its configuration (dunno why youd need to since its not wireless but meh), "ifdown eth0" and "ifup eth0" are how it works. if youve used red hat this is like /etc/sysconfig/interfaces/if-* (uhh hope i got that path right)
[02:30] <DigitalKiwi> function hi(a) a = #s * 10; while true do return hi(a) end end; hi("HELLO")
[02:30] <DigitalKiwi> that was it Irishmanluke
[02:30] <beatbreaker> maco, it looks like this now http://pastebin.com/d5c6a5cf
[02:30] <christiaaan> hi
[02:30] <booob> hi
[02:30] <booob> :D
[02:30] <DigitalKiwi> the # is about three times faster than string.len so it is optimized
[02:30] <booob> oi
[02:30] <losher> alexnet: here is my /etc/network/interfaces file. Just change the addresses for your setup: http://pastebin.com/m2a5e008
[02:31] <maco> beatbreaker: looks good
[02:31] <christiaaan> i have a problem i need install aircrack-ng but when i try to install say this
[02:31] <beatbreaker> not a redhat user unfortunately, just arch and ?buntu
[02:31] <christiaaan> La versión de `libsqlite3-0' en el sistema es 3.4.2-2.
[02:31] <christiaaan>  aircrack-ng depende de iw; sin embargo:
[02:31] <christiaaan>   El paquete `iw' no está instalado.
[02:31] <alexnet> awesome, thanks again losher
[02:31] <maco> beatbreaker: reboot and give it a try
[02:31] <beatbreaker> maco, rebooting
[02:31] <Ben64> Hey Irishmanluke, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie-roll center of a tootsie-pop?
[02:31] <SealedWithAKiss> How do I determine my Ubuntu version?
[02:32] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: lsb_release -a
[02:32] <Irishmanluke> Ben64: 64?
[02:32] <losher> christiaaan: ici on parle seulement anglais. Essaie #ubuntu-fr
[02:32] <Ben64> Irishmanluke: nope, it's 3 :(
[02:32] <SealedWithAKiss> maco, command not found.
[02:32] <SealedWithAKiss> maco, sorry it worked.
[02:32] <Irishmanluke> Ben64: but that's not a power of 2?
[02:32] <Ben64> Irishmanluke: so?
[02:33] <SealedWithAKiss> maco, it's 8.04 Hardy. How do I update it?
[02:33] <losher> christiaaan: oops. se habla solamente ingles acqui. Intenta #ubuntu-fr
[02:33] <losher> christiaaan: oops. se habla solamente ingles acqui. Intenta #ubuntu-es
[02:33] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: you want to go to 8.10?
[02:33] <christiaaan> okay thank u
[02:33] <dividebyzer0> can somebody help me get Wine working?
[02:33] <Ben64> Irishmanluke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0epRjfGLw
[02:33] <SealedWithAKiss> maco, how do I update from Hardy to the newest distribution?
[02:33] <LinuxGold> drink wine
[02:33] <Irishmanluke> well the memory addresses would be 00 01 and 10 what about 11?
[02:33] <Dayofswords> i wonder what the world would be like if linux based OS's had 50% of the computer market....
[02:33] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: system -> administration -> software sources. change it so that itll show all new versions instead of only long term support releases
[02:33] <IdleOne> SealedWithAKiss: use the upgrade manager
[02:34] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: you have to go through 8.10 to get to 9.04. skipping's not really supported
[02:34] <maco> IdleOne: hardy doesnt show non-lts new versions by default
[02:34] <Irishmanluke> Dayofswords: this channel would be impossibly full
[02:34] <IdleOne> maco: right I forgot about that
[02:34] <cversion7> hello all, i have a question relating to an SD card... my reader is showing up fine in ubuntu 9.04, but it says there's no media when I insert a brand new microSD card (with SD adapter)
[02:34] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: once thats done, run the system -> administration -> update manager andtell it to check for updtes. it should then offer you 8.10
[02:34] <losher> SealedWithAKiss: why bother. Nothing wrong with 8.04. Nice and stable...
[02:35] <whiteshep> Does anyone know if there is a way or filesystem for Ubuntu that will list files alphabetical by default?
[02:35] <beatbreaker> maco, Dr_Willis that's beautiful now, perfect! Thank you. The problem now is i've got to put in a umount command on shutdown because unmounting the share takes forever too
[02:35] <SealedWithAKiss> What do I do once  am in software sources?
[02:35] <SealedWithAKiss> losher, I fancy upgrading anyway.
[02:35] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: see the setting in tehre about what kind of updates to show?
[02:35] <SealedWithAKiss> maco, yesah.
[02:35] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: it should offer like "only long term support releases" or "all new versions" or "dont tell me" i think?
[02:36] <maco> SealedWithAKiss: the default is long term support releases only. change it to all
[02:36] <losher> SealedWithAKiss: then make a backup before you do. You won't be the first person to come back to 8.04 after trying 9.04
[02:36] <inx-mdg> whiteshep: can you explain  a little more what you are trying to accomplish and using what application?
[02:36] <SealedWithAKiss> losher, could the upgrade cause data loss?
[02:37] <SealedWithAKiss> What does this mean? W: GPG error: http://apt.tt-solutions.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06EA41DE4F6C1E86
[02:38] <losher> SealedWithAKiss: unlikely, but this group is littered with people whose upgrade went wrong somehow, or who lost sound, or flash stopped working, or wifi stopped working. The sound stuff seems particular stubborn...
[02:38] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: I don't think this is really the best command but what does ls /media show
[02:38] <Sylphid> how can i find the native block size of a storage device?
[02:38] <drakonik> Great. gdmsetup and gnome-session all fail with "cannot open display" but refuse to tell me why
[02:38] <cversion7> irishmanluke: cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  floppy  floppy0
[02:39] <losher> Sylphid: what's the device?
[02:39] <beatbreaker> can anyone help me in putting in a umount command up shutdown? i know what to write but i don't know WHERE it goes
[02:39] <inx-mdg> whiteshep: in a gui, nautilus default is alphabetical starting with folder names
[02:39] <drakonik> How do I proceed from here?
[02:39] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: ok well it's definately not mounted in /media
[02:39] <cversion7> irishmanluke: the sd drive shows up in nautilus, but it says there's no media
[02:40] <cversion7> irishmanluke: and the reader shows fine with lsusb
[02:40] <lstarnes> drakonik: how are you starting them?
[02:40] <Sylphid> losher, a-data 4G SDHC card
[02:40] <drakonik> lstarnes: From the terminal? With AND without sudo
[02:40] <lstarnes> drakonik: from a graphical terminal, or from one of the system consoles?
[02:40] <drakonik> system console
[02:40] <lstarnes> drakonik: what does "echo $DISPLAY" say?
[02:40] <drakonik> I don't have X, I don't have gnome
[02:41] <drakonik> lstarnes: Empty string
[02:41] <imran> hello
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> drakonik:  X runs under gnome...
[02:41] <lstarnes> drakonik: what's most likely happening is gdmsetup and gnome-session are failing because DISPLAY is undefined and/or X isn't running
[02:42] <drakonik> Yeah.
[02:42] <drakonik> Makes sense.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> linux kernel -> OS -> X -> windowmanager  :
[02:42] <lstarnes> drakonik: usually DISPLAY is set to :0.0
[02:42] <drakonik> Dr_Willis: Then by that definition, Gnome runs under X. But it's a moot point, and I don't care what runs under what, at the moment, because nothing is running at all
[02:42] <drakonik> lstarnes: Worth a try
[02:42] <beatbreaker> can anyone help me in putting in a umount command up shutdown? i know what to write but i don't know WHERE it goes
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> drakonik:  you got it backwards.. gnome runs on TOP of X.
[02:43] <losher> Sylphid: good question. Turns out I don't know the answer, sorry...
[02:43] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: sorry I kind of  missed that it was a usb sd card reader
[02:43] <Ben64> beatbreaker: everything should already get unmounted upon shutdown
[02:43] <drakonik> Yeah, we're not clearly defining what "under" or "on top of" means.
[02:43] <drakonik> But anyway
[02:43] <cversion7> irishmanluke: yeah, i just tried another SD card and it won't mount either
[02:43] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: ok
[02:43] <beatbreaker> Ben64, it doesn't myne hangs, Dr_Willis said he had the same problem
[02:44] <cversion7> irishmanluke: lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 007: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Hi-Speed 21-in-1 Flash Card Reader/Writer (Internal/External)
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  whats the problem again? ive frogotten.
[02:44] <christiaaan> how can install driver 802.11g wireless pci ?
[02:44] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, mounted samba share, will hang and not unmount up shutdown
[02:44] <drakonik> oh god how do I set the display variable?
[02:44] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: what does /var/log/syslog show after you insert the card
[02:45] <lstarnes> drakonik: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  so the share being in fstab dosent affect the network hanging eh>
[02:45] <drakonik> ah
[02:45] <ritztech> has anyone ever used Compiz fusion on 2 monitors ( i have 2 but i havent hooked it up seems weird though)
[02:45] <drakonik> export
[02:45] <drakonik> derp
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> ritztech:  it works here on my nvidia 8800gtsXXX card with 2 monitors
[02:46] <cversion7> Irishmanluke: it doesn't have anything listed after i plug it in, last thing was 6 minutes ago in that log
[02:46] <drakonik> Okay. Even after exporting the display variable, I'm getting the exact same error
[02:46] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, i moved it to rc.local upon your suggestion
[02:46] <drakonik> Talking about security conflicts in the config file
[02:47] <drakonik> Where can I find some gdm config file dealing with "Security policies"?
[02:47] <ritztech> oh wow really how does it run though on the 2nd monitor does it only work on 1 but then you have techinally 8 desktops if you have 4 desktops
[02:47] <ritztech> haha
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  try not mounting the share at all perhaps. to prove its a samba issue..  I guess.. elimnate what might be the problem.. ..
[02:47] <drakonik> Because that's what's stopping gdm from acquiring whatever name it needs.
[02:47] <dbdii407> Yea. Um i typed curl in my terminal a couple of times (for my project) and how my computers chopping up? i typed control+c but it's still choppy
[02:47] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, i remember you saying that you needed a script to unmount it
[02:47] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: what about /var/log/dmesg
[02:48] <beatbreaker> ok well how about i'll manually unmount it now, shutdown, and see if it hangs anywhere?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ritztech:  i have a single 'wide' spaning 2 monitors 'desktop' thats using the twinview feature. I have virtual desktops   when i jump to them . its the same as a single monitor setup.
[02:48] <drakonik> dbdii407: Try 'killall curl'
[02:48] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, as above, brb
[02:48] <cversion7> Irishmanluke: it also doesn't change when the card is inserted/re-inserted
[02:48] <alexnet> losher, my network section doesnt have eth0 it only has lo? is that normal? (i dont have wifi, and its a reall old computer)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  there can be a script to make it unmount  manually, that makes shutdown go faster.. but i dont rember where/how i did it now.
[02:48] <ritztech> sweet ill try that
[02:48] <dbdii407> drakonik, Opps. Forgot to mention, i did that, still choopy and nothing was killed. :X
[02:48] <Korr> I have a small problem, apparently my entire /usr directory has permissions reset to 770. Anyone have any great suggestions about how to reset them to their correct perms?
[02:48] <ritztech> i have nvidia how can i tell what model video card i have
[02:49] <drakonik> dbdii407: Ah. Interesting. Does ps -aux list anything unusual?
[02:49] <BhaalWK> packages.ubuntu.com is down?
[02:49] <drakonik> Also, it'd help to define 'choppy'.
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  shuting down without unmounting it will make the system 'wait' like 60 sec or so - till the server times out i recall.
[02:49] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, ah i see
[02:49] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: are you positive the reader works?
[02:49] <Korr> Using the 'live cd' is there a 'repair' option?
[02:49] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, yeah it seems to be waiting a long time before i get it to close proplerley
[02:49] <cversion7> Irishmanluke: works in Windows :) trying not to reboot into that partition
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  thats  shoudlent be affecting Boot UP 'times' however.. or was this whole problem  You having hangs at 'shutdown' only?
[02:51] <alexnet> Question: my /etc/network/interfaces only has an 'auto lo' section... I'm trying to give myself a static ip (and i have the code to do so) but I have no etho section! Do I add an etho? Or is my computer just lo
[02:51] <cversion7> irishmanluke: guess i'll reboot and see if it still works :(
[02:51] <lstarnes> alexnet: you could manually add a section for eth0
[02:51] <beatbreaker> Dr_Willis, i just fixed the boot up, as you suggested move mount command to rc.local and change interfaces upom marco's suggestion - shutdown still hangs and i guess i'd rather it to just be smooth
[02:52] <Irishmanluke> cversion7: yeah sorry I have no clue
[02:52] <lstarnes> alexnet: you could also try configuration with ifconfig
[02:52] <cversion7> irishmanluke: thanks for the help :)
[02:52] <Irishmanluke> alexnet: what does ifconfig show?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> beatbreaker:  i forget the script/thing  to use.. i just never worried about it much it eventually shuts down.. but i just dont rember how i made it quicker
[02:53] <drakonik> oh god, I found the gdm config directories
[02:53] <alexnet> my ifconfig looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/256625/
[02:53] <drakonik> Now I just have to find which one has to do with "Security policies"
[02:53] <Irishmanluke> alexnet: lstarnes is right just add it manually
[02:53] <alexnet> okay, i'll do that thank you
[02:54] <HobbleAlong> Korr: cd to / in a terminal sudo chmod -R 755 usr
[02:54] <Korr> that breaks a lot of stuff that needs +s
[02:54] <Dayofswords> is ifconfig linux's version of ipconfig on windows? (learning still=p)
[02:55] <maco> Dayofswords: yes
[02:55] <beatbreaker> maco, Dr_Willis ahh actually now i don't have netowrking at all on that machine, i was just testing
[02:55] <maco> beatbreaker: i dont know what youve changed since last time
[02:55] <drakonik> Wow.
[02:55] <drakonik> You really lose faith in a program when a comment in the config file says "Is this alright, or is this on crack?"
[02:55] <maco> beatbreaker: im in a meeting in another channel so i lost track after "yay it booted right! its slow to shut down :("
[02:55] <beatbreaker> maco, same thing, http://pastebin.com/d5c6a5cf
[02:57] <DouglasK> Question: how is Ubuntu's support for add-in USB2 cards?
[02:57] <beatbreaker> maco, it booted beautifully, but no network. I've been doing everything vie SSH and i just tried to ping it and it was dead, i tested the machine and neither LAN or WAN are working
[02:57] <Irishmanluke> HobbleAlong: wait give everyone read and execute permissions to everything in /usr ?
[02:57] <maco> beatbreaker: oh. boo. wait, in ifconfig, is your interface for-sure called eth0?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> DouglasK:  ive used several PCI usb cards to expand my machines with n o hassles under any linux's ive tried.
[02:58] <beatbreaker> maco, i'm pretty sure, but i'll check again
[02:58] <raylu> Korr: find can find only directories or only files
[02:58] <raylu> Korr: from there, you can use -exec chmod -r {} \; and -exec chmod -rx {} \;
[02:59] <SealedWithAKiss> How do I run a wine application from the terminal?
[02:59] <Ben64> wine application.exe
[02:59] <DouglasK> Dr_Willis: thanks... gonna grab one off ebay... got a box that has USB1, but makes a nice little server.
[02:59] <SealedWithAKiss> I don't know what the application is called.
[02:59] <raylu> drakonik: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795
[02:59] <drakonik> oh
[02:59] <drakonik> but
[02:59] <Gnea> SealedWithAKiss: you have to install it first
[02:59] <drakonik> I"m stuck in terminal
[02:59] <SealedWithAKiss> Gnea, I have.
[02:59] <Irishmanluke> HobbleAlong: nevermind that's the normal permissions lol
[02:59] <Paraj> I'm affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/395366 and I can't update my system. How can I fix this?
[02:59] <drakonik> dunno how to browser
[02:59] <Gnea> SealedWithAKiss: then it's in the wine path
[03:00] <beatbreaker> maco, well if i do ifconfig now eth0 isn't even there
[03:00] <SealedWithAKiss> Gnea, I wanna run it from the terminal.
[03:00] <Ben64> SealedWithAKiss: you installed something, but don't know what you installed?
[03:00] <beatbreaker> maco, i only get lo
[03:00] <Gnea> SealedWithAKiss: just give it the absolute path to the c drive
[03:00] <maco> beatbreaker: ifconfig -a
[03:00] <Gnea> SealedWithAKiss: you said that.
[03:00] <raylu> drakonik: oh, it's not important or relevant to your problem
[03:00] <Gnea> SealedWithAKiss: it's usually in the ~/.wine/ directory
[03:00] <Irishmanluke> beatbreaker: ifconfig eth0 up
[03:00] <raylu> drakonik: but lynx, links, and elinks are good cli browsers
[03:01] <drakonik> oh
[03:01] <drakonik> raylu: I opened it in my laptop
[03:01] <raylu> drakonik: if you don't want to mess with gdm configs, i suggest dpkg-reconfigure gdm. most likely, though, the issue is not with your gdm config
[03:01] <drakonik> Reading the URL from across the room
[03:01] <drakonik> raylu: Alright, I'll try that.
[03:02] <cWo_3m0> hy...
[03:02] <Dayofswords> oh come on, even ubuntu pastebin get viagra spam >.<
[03:02] <drakonik> okay, it's asking me to reboot
[03:02] <SealedWithAKiss> How do I cd into a directory with a space?
[03:02] <drakonik> I guess?
[03:02] <Mike_lifeguard> SealedWithAKiss: escape the space with
[03:02] <Mike_lifeguard> \
[03:02] <cWo_3m0> jancok
[03:02] <Gnea> SealedWithAKiss: use the tab key
[03:02] <Mike_lifeguard> SealedWithAKiss: or use quotes
[03:02] <drakonik> SealedWithAKiss: "cd blah\ blah\ dongs"
[03:03] <DigitalKiwi> Gnea: you're too fast
[03:03] <drakonik> anyway, brb, I'm sure.
[03:03] <HobbleAlong> Korr: you're right sorry...  There are also a bunch of .c files that need 644, and maybe others.  I'm not sure of anything quick and easy :o(
[03:03] <cWo_3m0> fuck you....!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:03] <SealedWithAKiss> Gnea, thanks.
[03:03] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I get my processor type (32/64 bit) from ubuntu?
[03:03] <Gnea> !lantuage | cWo_3m0
[03:03] <Pici> cWo_3m0: Please watch your language
[03:03] <raylu> Paraj: can you show us the result of either an apt update or dpkg --configure -a?
[03:03] <Mike_lifeguard> cWo_3m0: uh, no, you don't swear in here, ok?
[03:03] <Gnea> !language | cWo_3m0
[03:03] <Paraj> raylu: Same as in the bug
[03:03] <Ben64> Mike_lifeguard: you can find if you're running 32 or 64 by doing "uname -a"
[03:04] <Gnea> DigitalKiwi: how so?
[03:04] <cWo_3m0> sex with me????
[03:04] <tim167> how do i change the 'modified' and 'created' date of a file ?
[03:04] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: is that the i686 bit?
[03:04] <Ben64> not sure if you can tell if you have a 64bit cpu on 32bit ubuntu
[03:04] <SealedWithAKiss> :~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/SEGA$ wine Medieval\ II\ Total\ War/
[03:04] <SealedWithAKiss> wine: cannot find 'Medieval II Total War/'    ??
[03:04] <Ben64> Mike_lifeguard: yeah
[03:04] <raylu> Paraj: you're using lilo?
[03:04] <DigitalKiwi> Gnea: i was about to answer "use tab completion" but you had already answered
[03:04] <Paraj> raylu: Yes
[03:04] <Ben64> Linux ben64 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 24 22:15:50 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:04] <drakonik> Nope
[03:04] <drakonik> Didn't do a thing.
[03:04] <Gnea> DigitalKiwi: clearly this person doesn't fully understand the concept, yet
[03:04] <Ben64> so i'm running 64bit
[03:04] <Mike_lifeguard> SealedWithAKiss: are you sure you're entering the correct directory? That is a directory in your $HOME
[03:04] <raylu> Paraj: why not grub?
[03:05] <Beatbreake> maco, ok it's beatbreaker, i'm on another PC now, downstairs
[03:05] <kholby> I'm having some problems with DVD playback and flash movies on Xubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15 on an old emachines with 180MB of ram.  No one's saying anything on the Xubuntu channel.  Any ideas?
[03:05] <Dayofswords> man....... i hate how i have to use ubuntu as a rescue disc for my xp, 15 gb of data needs to be saved >.<
[03:05] <Beatbreake> maco, yeah i did ifconfig -a and there's eth0 there
[03:05] <raylu> Ben64: the lm flag in /proc/cpuinfo will tell if your processor is 64-bit
[03:05] <Mike_lifeguard> kholby: you should start by saying what problem(s) you're having
[03:05] <drakonik> Okay. dpkg says that I can reconfigure things once all X sessions are closed.
[03:05] <Paraj> raylu: Installed using alt CD, used multiple encrypted (dm-crypt) volumes for the OS
[03:05] <maco> beatbreaker: so if you "sudo ifup eth0" what happens?
[03:05] <Ben64> raylu: didn't know if it would have that if you're running a 32bit linux
[03:05] <Gnea> Dayofswords: would you hate it more or less if you didn't have a rescue cd at all?
[03:06] <drakonik> And then it barfs up some error about "initscript gdm, action "reload" " failing
[03:06] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: and i686 is what kind? I don't see the number 32 or 64 there :D
[03:06] <Ben64> it's 32 Mike_lifeguard
[03:06] <Dayofswords> well i'm not complaining that i have to use ubuntu, i just hate that i would have to use any thing
[03:06] <raylu> Ben64: it will, since "32-bit linux" is just a 32-bit kernel (and userspace) and the processor flags will be the same regardless of what you're running
[03:06] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: and what would 64 be?
[03:06] <kholby> Sorry.  I installed the packages supposedly necessary for DVD playback and several players, and finally got the DVDs to mount, but when I try to play one I'm told that I don't have permission.
[03:06] <Ben64> Mike_lifeguard: try "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i lm"
[03:06] <Gnea> Mike_lifeguard: linux has always been 32bit
[03:06] <Beatbreake> maco, all good if i do that command, how can i get it on bootup?
[03:07] <maco> beatbreaker: hrm. /etc/rcS.d/S40networking should have done that.
[03:07] <raylu> Ben64: or you could just grep -i lm /proc/cpuinfo
[03:07] <maco> beatbreaker: that file exists for you right?
[03:07] <DigitalKiwi> Dayofswords: system rescue cd ftw
[03:07] <Ben64> raylu: well i didn't know that the 64bit flags would show up on 32bit
[03:07] <Gnea> Dayofswords: then use nothing, and your life will be bliss?
[03:07] <Dayofswords> =p
[03:07] <Ben64> raylu: ok... theres many ways to grep stuff.... :|
[03:07] <Gnea> :)
[03:07] <imran_> Firecrotch, maybe but I don't learn in passin period, lunch, and seminar
[03:07] <kholby> I was able to get DVDs to play successfully on my laptop running Ubuntu 9.04 in a similar manner with almost no trouble.
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: that gives no output -- what line in there should I be looking at?
[03:08] <imran_> Ghod I lhuv cod 4
[03:08] <Ben64> Mike_lifeguard: do you know which cpu you have? try pastebin'ing "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: http://p.defau.lt/?acA7zO8Zt5msTeAM__Qy6g
[03:09] <raylu> kholby: output of groups?
[03:09] <Beatbreake> maco, yeah i got that file, it's got stuff inside it
[03:09] <Ben64> Mike_lifeguard: toshiba?
[03:09] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: yes
[03:09] <Ben64> Mike_lifeguard: which model?
[03:09] <maco> beatbreaker: i wonder if the script is broken...
[03:09]  * Mike_lifeguard turns it upside down
[03:09] <kholby> lee adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[03:09] <maco> beatbreaker: lemme try to debug it tonight and we'll talk tomorrow?
[03:09] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: A100-OFH
[03:10] <Ben64> well to answer your question, no 64bit on that cpu
[03:10] <raylu> kholby: what are you using to play DVDs?
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: thanks
[03:10] <kholby> I have KMPlayer, MPlayer, Movie Player and VLC.  None seem to work.
[03:10] <m0d0> Hello, any ubuntu guru about?
[03:10] <Ben64> but i have the same cpu in my laptop, pretty fast
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> m0d0: you should say what your issue is
[03:10] <Ben64> m0d0: i'm a guru of all things, wassup
[03:10] <Beatbreake> maco, ok I guess, will someone elses script work on my machine?
[03:11] <Paraj> lol
[03:11] <raj> WHy is my wireless card TEW-424UB inconsistent even when it worked out of the box? my signal goes from 20% then 66% then 100% then 50% . why is it jumping around like that? i am using opensource drivers as it is .. out of the box but its inconsistent . HELP
[03:11] <DouglasK> m0d0: diff peoplee are good in diff areas.  ask the question.  :-)
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> yeah, it's good I was just wondering
[03:11] <gmaculo> ogle is a good dvd app
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> Ben64: I didn't know 64 was faster
[03:11] <maco> beatbreaker: its a generic script that *should* go through everything in the interfaces file and start it
[03:11] <maco> beatbreaker: if its not doing that, thats bad
[03:11] <shovon> I need help installing kubuntu on wubi, and I already have ubuntu installed on wubi.
[03:11] <Ben64> Mike_lifeguard: not necessarily faster, but it uses the processor more efficiently, how it was designed.
[03:11] <shovon> Now the problem is, when I run the wubi installer, it tells me to uninstall ubuntu first.
[03:11] <raylu> kholby: cool. can i see the output of mplayer dvd://1
[03:12] <DouglasK> shovon: openn a shell, type "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" and press enter
[03:12] <Ben64> it would be like using only 4 cylinders in a v8 car
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> a bad idea :D
[03:12] <m0d0> hey, Well this is my first time with a ubuntu install so i'm kinda n00b but I have a HP dv7 and I'm having trouble getting the sound to work. I've updated alsa and looked at the forums to update the config document with my model.
[03:12] <Paraj> Is there any solution which doesn't involve me installing Grub instead of LILO?
[03:12] <DouglasK> shovon: That'll install KDE desktop and you can pick which you want on login.
[03:13] <Gnea> m0d0: what method did you use to update alsa?
[03:13] <MaGicMaX> anyone here familiar with Devede? Ive noticed when encoding it does not utallize all 4 of my CPU cores, is there a way to fix it?
[03:13] <maco> shovon: if you made the space big enough, you can install kubuntu-desktop inside your ubuntu wubi
[03:13] <maco> shovon: then you pick from kde or gnome on login
[03:13] <Beatbreake> maco, so i'll just use that up command before if i want it working manually in the meantime, and i'll pastebin my S40networking file to you
[03:13] <kholby> I'm running it on another PC, so I'll give you the last few lines:  Playing dvd://1 \n Can't open VMG info!
[03:13] <Beatbreake> maco, hold on
[03:13] <m0d0> I downloaded the packages from the website and ran config
[03:13] <kholby> No stream found to handle url dvd://1 \n\n\n Exiting... (End of file)
[03:14] <Ben64> m0d0: try "lspci | grep 82801"
[03:14] <maco> beatbreaker: try just putting "ifup eth0" in the "start" function of that file as a workaround :P
[03:14] <maco> beatbreaker: i was going to say we probably have the same, but im on unstable so yeah yours might be different
[03:15] <wfiuewfew> Hi! I'm trying to copy files from an old hard drive to a new one. But there's a problem! cp: reading ...: Input/output error
[03:15] <wfiuewfew> What is this?
[03:15] <m0d0> Ben64: Ok that seemed to do something in terminal
[03:15] <Ben64> m0d0: did it output anything?
[03:15] <kholby> ColbyIsColby: But I am Kholby!
[03:15] <MaGicMaX> anyone here familiar with Devede? Ive noticed when encoding it does not utallize all 4 of my CPU cores, is there a way to fix it?
[03:15] <m0d0> Ben64: yes it listed a load of Intel devices
[03:15] <raj>  WHy is my wireless card TEW-424UB inconsistent even when it worked out of the box? my signal goes from 20% then 66% then 100% then 50% . why is it jumping around like that? i am using opensource drivers as it is .. out of the box but its inconsistent . HELP
[03:16] <ColbyIsColby> Lol. Well, I am Colby.
[03:16] <Ben64> m0d0: could you pastebin em?
[03:16] <kholby> ColbyIsColby: doppelganger
[03:16] <m0d0> Ben64: In this window? Sorry (first time using xchat) :)
[03:16] <SealedWithAKiss> How do I go from wine version 0.9.59 to the most stable recent release?
[03:16] <Ben64> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <snarkster> im having a real issue mounting DVDs from netflix..
[03:16] <beatberaker> maco, here it is: http://pastebin.com/f3ada7d09
[03:17] <snarkster> I get no error message other than it doesnt mount
[03:17] <eboyjr> Hey I downloaded /home/eboyjr/Sources/alsa-driver-1.0.20 and compiled with --with-cards=all and make and sudo make install, but I want to revert changes. Because now GNOME sound recorder crashes when I hit record..
[03:17] <maco> beatbreaker: kk. will try to figure it out tonight
[03:17] <Paraj> Welcome to PulseAudio :/
[03:17] <ColbyIsColby> @kholby lol. I am the ghost of christmas past. OOoooOOOoooOOO.
[03:17] <wfiuewfew> Any ideas what does input/output error mean and how do I fix it?
[03:17] <imran_> I'm proz at cod4 w/ p90 silenced
[03:18] <Paraj> Pray
[03:18] <unitheory> raj, are you experiencing connection problems? or just notice that the level fluctuates?
[03:18] <beatberaker> maco, sorry i'm actually on the machine now, you might have to know this machine is running MythBUntu, but it's 9.04 and runs xfce instead, everything should be the same
[03:18] <m0d0> ok i pasted them into pastebin
[03:18] <{aaron}> hi guys, i downloaded ruby gems manually and ran setup.rb... but it didn't land in my path...should I have used the Ubunty system rubygems package?
[03:18] <Ben64> m0d0: doesn't help anyone if you don't post the url
[03:18] <raj> Unitheory: Yes connection problems when i am on skype and playing urbanterror . i get hickups .. alot of them :(
[03:18] <m0d0> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:18] <maco> beatbreaker: ok. im on 9.10 so having yours is useful as it may have changed since 9.04
[03:19] <Ben64> m0d0: the url to what you posted................................
[03:19] <Strife89> Does anyone have any experience with compiling Farsight 2? I've been trying to compile it over the past three days but keep running into roadblocks.
[03:20] <m0d0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/256642/
[03:20] <emac_modem> Any chance of eMac modem working?
[03:20] <Paraj> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sdh") after using 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' after a failed update, occurs during configuring the assorted linux-reistricted-module s
[03:20] <raj>  WHy is my wireless card TEW-424UB inconsistent even when it worked out of the box? my signal goes from 20% then 66% then 100% then 50% . why is it jumping around like that? i am using opensource drivers as it is .. out of the box but its inconsistent . HELP
[03:20] <Ben64> m0d0: ok, just as i thought, a LOT of people have come in here recently with problems with that audio card, don't know if a solution has been found
[03:21] <Paraj> raj: Probably environmental issues or the driver is reading the signal wrong
[03:21] <MaGicMaX> anyone here familiar with Devede? Ive noticed when encoding it does not utallize all 4 of my CPU cores, is there a way to fix it?
[03:21] <m0d0> eek.
[03:21] <raj> Pajar: Its not that i get major Hickups on skype . and no it works fine under windows .. should i use windows drivers on ndiswapper?
[03:21] <Ben64> MaGicMaX: there is an option somewhere for cores
[03:22] <Strife89> http://pastebin.com/m139eede7 <--- only the last two lines are meaningful
[03:22] <HobbleAlong> MaGicMaX: have you found anything that says it *should* use 4 cores.  It needs to be written with a thread per core..
[03:22] <Paraj> raj: You can try, but I doubt it'll work. I've never had drivers for USB wireless cards work in ndiswrapper
[03:23] <Paraj> In fact, I've had similar issues to yours when dealing with USB wireless cards in *nix
[03:23] <kholby> <--Not a fan of ndiswrapper
[03:23] <Ben64> MaGicMaX: check out the last post on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544828
[03:23] <Strife89> How can I install gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23 or newer?
[03:23] <Paraj> ndiswrapper sucks I know, but so does PulseAudio, LILO and a bunch of other stuff they make us use
[03:23] <DouglasK> Paraj: I have had them work before with a WUSB300N card from linksys
[03:23] <Strife89> Synaptic only appears to offer me version 0.10.22.
[03:23] <m0d0> I got some alsa information from website on the sound card I don't know if this helps any http://paste.ubuntu.com/256646/
[03:24] <raj> Paraj: I know it sucks .. skype breaks up alot .. everytime my signal drops ..
[03:24] <Strife89> Also, Totem keeps giving me the message: Failed to create a GStreamer play object. Please check your GStreamer installation.
[03:25] <drakonik> Oky, how do I kill all X sessions?
[03:25] <MaGicMaX> Ben64: yes ive endabled the mulitcore thing, i have the newest version of mencoder
[03:25] <drakonik> dkpg won't let me reconfigure gdm until all X sessions are dead
[03:25] <drakonik> And somehow, I've got an x session running
[03:25] <Strife89> My version of Ubuntu is 9.04, 64-bit kernel.
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[03:25] <HobbleAlong> MaGicMaX: did you try -lavcopts threads=2 and use 2 cores?  That may be all it was written to use...
[03:25] <garvinrick4> Using 9.10 desktop program gnome-app-install does not open. Have downloaded fresh app from repository and gives same error message.  Anyone can help
[03:25] <kholby> OK, so maybe I'll pass on DVD for now, but I can't get flash videos to work in Firefox using gnash (YouTube specifically).  Any ideas here?  Adobe didn't work either.
[03:26] <DouglasK> drakonik: well, hit Ctrl-alt-F1, login, do a /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then reconfig it.
[03:26] <drakonik> alright
[03:26] <Paraj> drakonik: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:26] <m0d0> Ben64: Would this information help you at all - http://paste.ubuntu.com/256646/
[03:26] <drakonik> Nope.
[03:26] <drakonik> Same error.
[03:27] <drakonik> Even though the stop command gave a thumbs up and no error
[03:27] <Paraj> Am I wasting my time finding answers to my dpkg and LILO problems here?
[03:27] <DouglasK> drakonik: try sudo killall -9 gdm
[03:27] <MaGicMaX> HobbleAlong: havent tried that
[03:27] <dax2112rush1> Hi all. Every once in a while, gnome seems to freeze on my system, ie. taskbar and gnome-panel stop responding. All other apps continue running fine (even apps in notification area). How do I debug that?
[03:27] <drakonik> It's not running.
[03:27] <ctmjr> Strife89: try this or see if there is a ppa for it http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/GStreamer-Plugins-Base-Download-8959.html
[03:27] <drakonik> GDM isn't running. Which is my problem. I"m stuck in my stupid system shell
[03:27] <MaGicMaX> HobbleAlong: is it safe on open a 2nd Devede if ones up currently encoding? its already half done heh
[03:28] <drakonik> And for some reason, dpkg things that there's an X session running
[03:28] <drakonik> Wait.
[03:28] <drakonik> Hrm.
[03:28] <drakonik> exit
[03:28] <drakonik> frack
[03:28] <HobbleAlong> MaGicMaX: look at the docs for mencoder and see if it can use 4 cores ie 4 threads
[03:28] <JGodbout> dax2112rush1: Does it happen after using multiple programs which use sound?
[03:28]  * DouglasK watches with interest...
[03:28] <JGodbout> dax2112rush1: Rhythmbox and youtube, for example?
[03:28] <Strife89> ctmjr: Thanks, I'll just try to compile it.
[03:29] <Paraj> LOL, he was using an IRC client on another console wasn't he?
[03:29] <navlar> #rob0t7
[03:29] <dax2112rush1> JGodbout: Yes, it is possible, but I never notice the exact moment where this happens as it doesn't affect apps.
[03:29] <garvinrick4> Anyone know about gnome-app-install.
[03:29] <drakonik> Okay
[03:29] <drakonik> That didn't work.
[03:30] <EscobarX> Hi, i wanna install ubuntu jaunty on my new hp mini and since it has no cd room , i am going to use wubi, my question is : how to install the 32 bits version using wubi, "start it with the 32 bits argument" is all i found in websites but i kinda dont understand how, thanks in advance
[03:30] <HobbleAlong> MaGicMaX: I don't know I've never used Devede;  I'm just trying to come up with things you can check.
[03:30] <Laserbeak431> hello, I want to install the JDK, the choices are a .bin or .rpm on the website.  which one do i choose? and how do i install it?
[03:30] <dax2112rush1> JGodbout: but I'll try to pay attention when using Banshee and youtube or other apps
[03:30] <JGodbout> dax2112rush1: Ah okay. I just notice that it sometimes happens to me after using Amarok, and something like Youtube at the same time.
[03:30] <dax2112rush1> JGodbout: any known fix for that?
[03:30] <Irishmanluke> drakonik: how do you know there's no x session
[03:30] <JGodbout> dax2112rush1: I fixed it by changing the output for Amarok to ALSA.
[03:31] <garvinrick4> wubi will install 64 bit if your system is capable. That is your option. Takes 12 hours or so
[03:31] <IdleOne> Laserbeak431: neither. search in Synaptic package manager for jdk
[03:31] <JGodbout> Rather than autodetect
[03:31] <Strife89> ctmjr: I hate dependency hell. "liboil-0.3.14 or later required"
[03:31] <MaGicMaX> HobbleAlong: looking
[03:31] <Laserbeak431> IdleOne: ok thx
[03:31] <drakonik> Irishmanluke: Well, I'm pretty sure tehre isn't
[03:31] <Beatbreake> maco, sorry i just want to ask, if I was to put "sudo ifup eth0" into that script, where would i put it? http://pastebin.com/f3ada7d09
[03:31] <drakonik> I mean, I'm in system terminal mode
[03:31] <wfiuewfew> Hi! Any ideas about why I am getting an input/output error when copying files between hard drives???
[03:31] <EscobarX> Hi, i wanna install ubuntu jaunty on my new hp mini and since it has no cd room , i am going to use wubi, my question is : how to install the 32 bits version using wubi, "start it with the 32 bits argument" is all i found in websites but i kinda dont understand how, thanks in advance
[03:31] <craCkpot> okay after messing around with firefox for a while it seems that my profile isn't being saved.
[03:31] <drakonik> ps -aux doesn't list anything to do with X, there's no GNOME session
[03:32] <drakonik> I don't know why dpkg is convinced there is an X session
[03:32] <drakonik> And I have no idea how I can actually check
[03:32] <drakonik> I've checked /etc/init.d/ for some way to stop X, there's nothing
[03:32] <MaGicMaX> HobbleAlong: btw, i usually encode from .avi, does that use the mencoder at all?
[03:32] <drakonik> I don't know where to turn.
[03:32] <maco> beatbreaker: after line 52 "start)"...just put it on the next line
[03:32] <craCkpot> for example, when i load firefox it doesn't restore my previous tabs like i have it set to do
[03:32] <Irishmanluke> drakonik: ps aux | grep x-session doesn't show anything?
[03:32] <maco> beatbreaker: dont need the sudo as its run as root
[03:32] <Paraj> Did you try --force with dpkg ?
[03:32] <dax2112rush1> JGodbout: I'll experiment with that but I need to be able to route all audio through pulseaudio... audio in linux is such a mess :'(
[03:33] <dax2112rush1> JGodbout: thanks
[03:33] <Beatbreake> maco, ah great, thanks very much
[03:33] <JGodbout> dax2112rush1: Yeah - it can be a bit fiddly. Good luck with it all
[03:33] <garvinrick4> Wubi click 32 bit, how big a chunk out of windows dual boot. Will do it;s thing, cannot screw it up.
[03:33] <drakonik> Irishmanluke: Not a thing, other than "ps -aux | grep x-session"
[03:33] <drakonik> Paraj: I can try
[03:34] <ctmjr> Strife89: well that did not help your problem sorry
[03:34] <drakonik> Paraj: Nope, --force didn't change anything.
[03:34] <HobbleAlong> MaGicMaX: I'm not sure, you'll need some other advice or check the docs.
[03:34] <drakonik> It's still waiting for the X session to end before it will reconfigure gdm.
[03:34] <craCkpot> okay for some reason it will only run properly when i do: "sudo firefox" from a terminal, is there any way to fix it?
[03:34] <drakonik> What X session? I don't know. But it thinks there's one running.
[03:34] <MaGicMaX> HobbleAlong: checked the man page and i dont see avi support listed for it, not sure with encoder is uses for that, whatever it is... it only uses a single core...
[03:34] <Strife89> ctmjr: Thankfully Synaptic had the package. gst is making now, wish me luck ....
[03:34] <Paraj> If all us fails just reboot and try again
[03:34] <maco> beatbreaker: hang on
[03:34] <Paraj> else fails*
[03:35] <drakonik> Paraj: I have, several times now.
[03:35] <maco> beatbreaker: is mountnfs the one you're using?
[03:35] <JGodbout> How can I set it so that my keyboard layout is changed from dvorak to qwerty whenever I hold down Left Ctrl? I want to be able to use dvorak for typing, but still have nicely placed qwerty shortcuts.
[03:35] <drakonik> It always thinks there's an X session.
[03:35] <maco> beatbreaker: im being reminded of how the new upstart boot process works
[03:35] <drakonik> Is tehre like...a text file with a cookie in it, saying "Yeah, X is active"? Maybe the file got orphaned or isn't being deleted or cleared?
[03:35] <drakonik> I'm grasping for straws now.
[03:36] <slide> How do I access mounted network drives when trying to open files? Im trying to install something in VirtualBox but the network locations that show up in File Browser arent there
[03:36] <ctmjr> drakonik: try sudo killall gdm it's ugly but works or should
[03:36] <drakonik> I tried to boot into the Ubuntu recovery mode. dpkg gave some screwy errors and didn't do anything
[03:36] <slide> i don't see them in /mnt or anything
[03:36] <drakonik> ctmjr: No process found.
[03:36] <drakonik> I'm telling you guys, gdm and X aren't running.
[03:37] <slide> they dont appear to be truly mounted
[03:37] <drakonik> Something is tricking dpkg into thinking X is running.
[03:37] <HobbleAlong> MaGicMaX: You may have to do some more digging.  I'm not familiar with those programs, sorry.
[03:37] <maco> beatbreaker: is nfs what you're using?
[03:38] <m0d0> Is there anyone else on here that wants to have a crack helping me fix the sound for my HP dv7? Or is there just no fix for this yet?
[03:38] <kholby> Can anyone help with flash stuffs?
[03:38] <maco> beatbreaker: pastebin the ####'d part of /etc/rcS.d/S45mountnfs.sh
[03:39] <JGodbout> Can anyone help with making my keyboard layout switch to qwerty when I hold down Left Control?
[03:40] <kn100> heres a puzzler for you guys, why in ubuntu is my internet at around 8mbps, while in windows xp it wont go past 4mbps, this is a clean install of genuine windows with the drivers that came on the disk for the wifi stick
[03:40] <charles`_> the address <IP_ADDRESS> is always routing to localhost, even when all of my interfaces are down.  I have another computer at that address that I need to access but I always just get this computer instead
[03:40] <charles`_> running route doesn't show it
[03:40] <kn100> the download speeds in ubuntu are authentic too, i can download from torrents at 1mbps
[03:40] <kn100> so any ideas?
[03:40] <Lostinspace_46> In xmodmap I want <Alt_R> + <L_Arrow> to = left mouse button...any suggestions?
[03:40] <drakonik> charles`_: Check your HOSTS file
[03:41] <Silver_Swords> kn100: it could be a wireless N.  some hardware on windows wont work at N speeds.
[03:41] <Strife89> ctmjr: Okay, tried to configure Farsight again, but this time, "Could not find Python headers".
[03:41] <charles`_> drakonik: there isn't a corresponding entry there for that address
[03:41] <HobbleAlong> kn100:  microsoft uses a broken tcp/ip stack apparently.  I've had the same sort of thing happen.
[03:41] <Lostinspace_46> JGodbout: You mean you want to set it up that way?
[03:42] <kn100> Silver_Swords: doubt it, all my hardware is g
[03:42] <JGodbout> Yeah
[03:42] <drakonik> charles`_: Strange. What are you using for DNS for that computer?
[03:42] <kn100> all i have windows installed for is my wii emulator anyway
[03:42] <JGodbout> Lostinspace_46: I want a dvorak layout with qwerty shortcuts
[03:42] <Irishmanluke> ooh wii emulator nice
[03:42] <Lostinspace_46> JGodbout: are you using xmodmap or loadkeys?
[03:42] <charles`_> drakonik, just my router
[03:43] <charles`_> drakonik, even when I bring down all interfaces that address is corresponding to local host
[03:43] <Irishmanluke> kn100: can you hook up wiimotes to use with that too?