[01:20] <CoRnJuLiOx> hey, i've got a little problem w/firefox. i just switched themes in xubuntu from whatever the default was to xfce4-dusk, and firefox ended up changing the backgrounds of all the websites i visit to black, and the text to white. now i switched it to another theme and the backgrounds are white, and the text is black, but none of the pages are the color they're supposed to be. any ideas?
[01:21] <CoRnJuLiOx> like IGN, for example, the navigation bar on the side is usually red, but its all white now.
[01:23] <BlueEagle> cornjuliox: firefox shouldn't take themes from xubuntu as far as I know...
[01:23] <vidd> CoRnJuLiOx, in the Edit>Preferences in firefox.....
[01:23] <CoRnJuLiOx> ah bingo, i found it
[01:23] <CoRnJuLiOx> BlueEagle: it shouldnt, but it did :-/ anyways i got it working again.
[01:24] <CoRnJuLiOx> i wonder why that box was unchecked.
[01:41] <doenner> sometimes it happens that my xfce-panel "looses" elements, they disappear. I cant tell when or how this happens.
[01:57] <BFTD> couldn't stand touching them there
[01:57] <BFTD> oops
[01:57] <BFTD> dang
[02:05] <Jester45> yuck, apache james  who would want to run a mail server in java
[02:28] <Jester45>  /help list
[02:28] <Jester45> oops
[02:29] <vidd> what is the command line method for blanking a cdrw?
[03:36] <cellofellow> *whistles*
[03:37] <vidd> *wave* cellofellow
[03:37] <cellofellow>  :-)
[03:39] <vidd> you know the command to check the alt cd?
[03:42] <cellofellow> vidd: how about check the md5sum
[03:42] <cellofellow> md5sum /dev/cdrom
[03:43] <yesdup57002> hi all.
[03:45] <yesdup57002> is there a way i can save this channel in pidgin so it automatically loads when i open up pidgin??
[03:46] <Jester45> yes,
[03:47] <vidd> cellofellow, sorry...was on the other system....the network cable came out
[03:47] <Jester45> tell me what words are at the top of the window
[03:47] <yesdup57002> conversation and options
[03:48] <Jester45> yesdup57002, how about the buddy list window
[03:48] <Jester45> i think its the 3rd one
[03:48] <yesdup57002> sorted thanks.
[03:48] <vidd> cellofellow, why not come to -offtopic?
[03:49] <yesdup57002> the buddies list is where i can add a channel but the window i,m typing in doesn't have abything other than conversation and options
[03:50] <Jester45> yesdup57002, on the buddy list where it says add chat add something add something click add chat
[03:50] <Jester45> then make it
[03:50] <Jester45> then right click the new icon in the buddy list and check auto join
[03:50] <yesdup57002> done thanks a lot
[03:51] <yesdup57002> cool
[03:51] <Jester45> it would of been better if i new what the name od the menu was
[03:51] <yesdup57002> this was a night finding this place. well not finding but joining.
[03:51] <yesdup57002> oops nightmare sp
[03:53] <yesdup57002> i thought i had to sign up some where or register. couldn't find anything though took over an hour to figure out that if i put any username that isn't taken i get in.
[03:54] <Jester45> if its taken it gives you a secondary one automatically , llike for me its normally Jester46
[03:54] <yesdup57002> Ok.
[03:55] <Jester45> yesdup57002, can you can register your name so nobosy can take it and you can then send private messages
[03:55] <yesdup57002> OK how?
[03:55] <yesdup57002> or where?
[03:55] <Jester45> you can register by typing /msg NickServ REGISTER passwordhere
[03:56] <yesdup57002> Thanks again.
[03:56] <Jester45> and, you might want to set up pidgin to automatically tell nickserv your pasword when you login
[03:57] <Jester45> i think its where you set your username
[03:58] <vidd> wb cellofellow
[03:58] <cellofellow> :)
[03:59] <yesdup57002> Will do that. thanks
[04:03] <yesdup57002> can anyone suggest a good gtk shceduler (i presume just a front end for cron)
[04:05] <cellofellow> yesdup57002: I'm thinking gcron, if that's what it's called. I never had much luck with that, just easier to use crontab.
[04:06] <cellofellow> gcrontab, that's it.
[04:06] <cellofellow> !gcrontab
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gcrontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <cellofellow> !info gcrontab
[04:06] <ubotu> gcrontab: GTK bases crontab editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3.1 (feisty), package size 79 kB, installed size 400 kB
[04:13] <yesdup57002> Ok. that seem to do the job thanks and that would be in the fiesty universe.
[04:13] <cellofellow> yes
[04:13] <yesdup57002> Nothing better lookin gtk2 maybe
[04:18] <cellofellow> yesdup57002: yeah, GTK1 is a little ugly.
[04:18] <cellofellow> yesdup57002: on the other hand, a lot of my favorite utility-apps like LinNieghborhood are written using it.
[04:20] <yesdup57002> i want to be able to schedule shutdown each day. should i just use the 'halt" cmd
[04:21] <cellofellow> poweroff works for me
[04:21] <vidd> yesdup57002, why would you want to SCHEDULE a shutdown?
[04:22] <yesdup57002> cellofellow pyneighborhood is the update and looks prettier. same functionality
[04:22] <cellofellow> yesdup57002: one problem: doesn't work.
[04:22] <cellofellow> It never actually mounts for me.
[04:23] <yesdup57002> you have change the permissoins for mount and umount
[04:23] <yesdup57002> i will find the instruction that got it working for me
[04:24] <cellofellow> I have to do that for LinNeighborhood too. Or something similar. I think the exact settings are different and that's why things go screwy. One can't have both programs.
[04:24] <yesdup57002> http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/11/xubuntu-browsing-samba-shares-with.html this worked for me
[04:25] <cellofellow> I know that page. Never actually worked for me.
[04:26] <yesdup57002> Ok.
[04:26] <anthony_> #ubuntu
[04:27] <anthony_> oops
[04:28] <yesdup57002> vidd: i dont use the PC during the night so why waste the electicity and add to the global warming. plus PC are suppose to be clever and should be able to handle this sort of request with easeo:-)
[04:29] <cellofellow> My MoBo has some setting for booting when it recieves some sort of signal on the network card. I would love to figure out how to use that.
[04:29] <vidd> yesdup57002, yes, the computer will be able to handle it with ease....but dont get me started on debunking the "global warming" myth!
[04:29] <cellofellow> go vidd!
[04:31] <yesdup57002> OK. when i was at school they yuse to believe we were entring the next ICE AGE so go figure.
[04:31] <vidd> but i can understand you wanting to save 85cents a day on your light bill
[04:32] <vidd> yesdup57002, ....i told ya....dont get me started....
[04:32] <vidd> =]
[04:32] <yesdup57002> X 365 = new wireless card:)
[04:34] <yesdup57002> Ok got to go but just quickly. is it possible to get nvidia driver working with acpi. if so then maybe another time i could get some help making them both co-exist
[04:36] <vidd> it SHOULD work by default
[04:36] <vidd> or are you talking about the proprietary driver?
[04:36] <cellofellow> there's something on the Wiki about nvidia and acpi
[04:36] <cellofellow> !nvidia
[04:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:36] <cellofellow> I found it from there.
[04:37] <yesdup57002> Ok as long as someone has it working then theres hope. like i said maybe next time. Thanks all CHOw
[05:35] <coldsteal> i want to start ubuntu so its just a terminal
[05:35] <coldsteal> and then i do startx
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Sure.  Just remove gdm from Runlevel 2.  (I personally prefer the cli tool sysv-rc-conf for doing so.)
[05:36] <coldsteal> ok
[05:36] <coldsteal> is there a different way?
[05:36] <coldsteal> doesnt  sysv-rc-conf ask allot of questions
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> It's just a grid of services and runlevels.  The GUI tool BUM works too.
[05:38] <coldsteal> lol that was easy
[05:38] <coldsteal> okay is there a way to remove the xfce boot screen
[05:38] <coldsteal> and show whats happening
[05:39] <coldsteal> i usually use slackware and if ppl know im using ubuntu im going to get shot
[05:39] <coldsteal> lol
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and remove the 'splash', 'quiet', or both options for the kernel line, depending on how much detail you want.
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> haha
[05:41] <coldsteal> okay now what about when i shutdown
[05:41] <coldsteal> how do i remove the shutdown splash screen
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> They'll be controlled by the same thing.
[05:42] <coldsteal> ok
[05:42] <coldsteal> cool
[05:42] <coldsteal> so now ppl cant tell :0
[05:42] <coldsteal> *:)
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Unless they look closer ;)
[05:43] <coldsteal> o wont let them
[05:43] <coldsteal> ill say its debian
[06:48] <Catoptromancy> !divx
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:55] <Catoptromancy> cant find a divx player
[06:55] <Catoptromancy> codecs i mean
[07:09] <Pumpernickel> Catoptromancy: Which media player?
[07:10] <Catoptromancy> just a box in firefox
[07:10] <Catoptromancy> says plugin missing
[07:10] <Pumpernickel> You'd need a media player plugin for firefox, then.
[07:10] <Pumpernickel> There's a totem one, a vlc one, and I'm not entirely sure what else.
[07:11] <Pumpernickel> If you use the totem one, with the xine backend, the codec package would be libxine1-ffmpeg.
[07:12] <Catoptromancy> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[07:12] <Catoptromancy> i have this
[07:12] <Pumpernickel> That works if you're using totem-gstreamer.
[07:14] <Catoptromancy> that wants to install alot of gnome libs
[07:19] <Pumpernickel> It is built to work with a gnome environment.
[07:21] <Catoptromancy> I guess nothing xfce?
[07:21] <Pumpernickel> Totem-xine is a bit less gnome-specific.
[07:21] <Catoptromancy> opps
[07:21] <Catoptromancy> already installed
[07:23] <Catoptromancy> heh aptitude installed 40 mbs
[07:23] <Catoptromancy> aptitude remove 14mbs
[07:23] <Catoptromancy> I use xfmeida
[07:23] <Catoptromancy> media
[07:24] <Catoptromancy> so I guess xine is best one?
[07:25] <Catoptromancy> its nearly the same libs anyway
[07:26] <Catoptromancy> cool
[07:26] <Catoptromancy> works
[07:35] <Catoptromancy> very cool
[07:35] <Catoptromancy> xfmedia once again plays it better than totem
[07:35] <Catoptromancy> hmm
[07:37] <Catoptromancy> I hate it when im forced to keep a program installed because of some libs
[07:37] <Catoptromancy> works in xfmedia, yet I cant remove totem player
[10:00] <yetnot> trk var m?
[10:37] <sj> hi
[10:43] <kumamoto> hi
[10:54] <Merchelo> !hi
[10:54] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[01:05] <[miles] > good afternoon
[01:05] <[miles] > for some reason, the terminal has lost the abiltity to use the tab key to complete commands...
[01:05] <[miles] > does anyone have any idea what could have caused this please?
[01:09] <[miles] > ah got it
[01:09] <[miles] > works now..
[01:09] <totalwormage> :]
[01:09] <totalwormage> what was it :p
[02:30] <jmega_> how much free space i need to install?
[02:31] <jmega_> will a 2gd hdd be enough
[02:35] <Smygis> Yes, It will be tight but it will fit.
[02:42] <jmega> is there any kind of smaller version to fit on a 2gb hdd now using kubuntu thinking aboout xubuntu
[03:28] <Thirdy> hello every1
[03:28] <Thirdy> any1 played FF7 here b4?
[03:30] <Thirdy> Is there a way to translate Final Fantasy 7 International into English?
[03:47] <Woopahh_> hello:D
[03:48] <Woopahh_> how do i remove the icons on the desktop?
[03:50] <Woopahh_> ??
[03:52] <topcat1028> hello, can somebody help me with my wireless card?
[03:52] <Thirdy> any recommendation for hex editor to change fonts?
[03:53] <Woopahh_> no one seem to care on this channel...
[03:54] <Woopahh_> i have asked how to remove the icons on my desktop many times now but no respons!
[03:55] <Woopahh_> and this is supose to be a "Official Xubuntu Support Channel"! lol
[03:56] <topcat1028> yeah this channel sucks... then if you ask the people in the regular ubuntu channel they send you here
[03:56] <topcat1028> no love for xubuntu
[03:58] <Catoptromancy> well it is early in the morning
[04:06] <Woopahh_> it's 16.00 im my country! thats 4pm im america:P
[04:07] <Thirdy> any good tutorials for hex editing?
[04:08] <Thirdy> It's 10:15 here
[04:08] <Thirdy> pm
[04:08] <Woopahh_> oh..
[04:08] <Thirdy> ph
[04:15] <artabrahao> blz? como faco para instalar o ubuntu sem perder os dados?
[04:17] <Smygis> artabrahao, jag fattar inte vad du skriver.
[04:18] <artabrahao> sorry, How is possible reinstall ubuntu keeping the data files?
[04:19] <Smygis> if you have your /home om a separate partition all you need to do is to avoid formating it, Otherwise you have to back it upp somehow.
[04:19] <Woopahh_> inte jag heler:P
[04:20] <Smygis> DVD/CD/External harddrive and so on.
[04:20] <Woopahh_> noen fra norge her:P
  I cant backup because ubuntu is not startig, just in secure mode
[04:21] <Catoptromancy> artabrahao : I burned DVDs of all my hidden files in /home/
[04:21] <Smygis> artabrahao, boot up the liveCD then, Or find out why it wont start and fix it.
[04:21] <Woopahh_> what porgram is best suited for downloading?
[04:22] <Catoptromancy> I use aptittude
[04:22] <Catoptromancy> I jsut reinstalled yesterday
[04:22] <Smygis> Woopahh_, Download over what? Torrents? FTP? HTTP?
[04:22] <artabrahao> this error appears when try to remove ou reinstall packages:  sub-process  /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) a package failed do install
[04:23] <Catoptromancy> artabrahao : ive never used dpkg,
[04:23] <Catoptromancy> apitude install things fine automatically
[04:23] <Smygis> artabrahao, try sudo apt-get -f install
[04:23] <Woopahh_> p2p... all mentioned above if possible;D im gonna use it to download mp3 files, the legal kind:D
[04:24] <Smygis> Catoptromancy, dpkg is the backend who actuly installs the files.
[04:24] <Smygis> Even if you use aptitude
[04:24] <Catoptromancy> ya
[04:25] <Catoptromancy> I like being lazy about
[04:25] <Woopahh_> should i use frostwire or aMule?
[04:26] <Smygis> Try and see what you like most.
[04:28] <Woopahh_> hummm.... ok:D is frostwire runing on java btw?
[04:29] <Smygis> Yes
[04:29] <Woopahh_> ok...
[04:29] <Woopahh_> what about aMule?
[04:41] <artabrahao> how can I see all php packages installed?
[04:42] <TheSheep> dpkg -l | grep php
[04:42] <artabrahao> or remove all php pakages installed?
[04:42] <TheSheep> apt-get remove .*php.*
[04:43] <artabrahao> tks
[05:10] <artabrahao> when removing or installing a package appears xxx segmentation fault  stty
[05:10] <artabrahao> when removing or installing a package appears xxx segmentation fault  stty -a 2>/dev/null
[05:10] <TheSheep> artabrahao: that's bad, try aptitude instead of apt-get
[05:11] <artabrahao> is aptitude
[05:12] <artabrahao> why this error?
[05:13] <Deviad> Hello, can anyone pls tell me how to let the touchpad of a macbook pro 15" work with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:13] <Deviad> It just does not work. I tried doing cat /dev/psaux, cat /dev/input/mouse1, mouse2 etc and I get no response
[05:14] <TheSheep> artabrahao: no idea, it usually means an error in the code of the application or some library -- considering that we don't have hundreds of users reporting that error, it's possible that somethng on your system is corrupted...
[05:14] <TheSheep> Deviad: have you looked at the forumes? I'm sure there are some mac users there
[05:15] <artabrahao> maybe, and how fix it? How reinstall the system?
[05:16] <TheSheep> artabrahao: you'd first need to know what part is broken. what do you do exactly and what are the messgaes? can you pastebin them somewhere?
[05:16] <artabrahao> the message appears when I try do remove or reinstall any package
[05:21] <artabrahao> but the thinks is terrible but the gnome is working now, it helps?
[05:25] <TheSheep> artabrahao: the actual messgaes would be more helpful
[05:25] <TheSheep> artabrahao: seems like some postinstall script fails
[05:26] <TheSheep> artabrahao: we need to know which package the script is for
[05:26] <artabrahao> how?
[05:26] <TheSheep> artabrahao: dpkg --configure -a
[05:27] <TheSheep> artabrahao: that shoudl attempt to continue from the last error
[05:27] <TheSheep> artabrahao: and write which packages it is trying to uninstall
[05:27] <Smygis> Copy-paste
[05:28] <TheSheep> !pastebin
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <godless> !w32codecs
[05:32] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:32] <godless> !codecs
[05:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:43] <godless> how do I add a user to the sudo group?
[05:44] <TheSheep> godless: system->users and groups
[05:45] <TheSheep> godless: and check the checkbox
[05:45] <godless> TheSheep:  How 'bout with the CLI?
[05:46] <helpme> hello
[05:46] <helpme> how do i add/remove software icons in my xfce menu bar?
[05:46] <helpme> the applications bar
[05:46] <TheSheep> godless: add him to the 'admin' group
[05:46] <godless> TheSheep:  Riiight. Thanks.
[05:46] <asmith42a> helpme: Right-click > remove?
[05:47] <TheSheep> helpme: right-click on the panel, select 'add new item', then select launcher
[05:47] <godless> helpme:  Do you want to edit items within the menu, or the panel?
[05:47] <helpme> within the menu
[05:47] <TheSheep> helpme: settings->menu editor
[05:47] <helpme> i want to remove the Winamp icon from my applications list
[05:47] <asmith42a> helpme: Oh, I see. Sorry.
[05:47] <helpme> but in the menu editor i dont know how to access the applications list
[05:47] <TheSheep> helpme: are you sure you're running xubuntu?
[05:47] <godless> right click on the applications menu -> properties -> edit menu
[05:48] <TheSheep> helpme: there is no winamp for linux
[05:48] <helpme> yeah
[05:48] <helpme> i installed it using Wine
[05:48] <TheSheep> ouch
[05:48] <helpme> now i want to remove it from the Others window
[05:48] <helpme> the winamp icon
[05:48] <TheSheep> helpme: there will be a winamp.desktop file in your ~/.share/applications/wine directory
[05:49] <TheSheep> helpme: you can edit that file (it's text) to move the icon to otherp lace, or just delete it to remove it from the menu
[05:49] <helpme> where can share be found?
[05:49] <BFTD> right click
[05:49] <BFTD> remove
[05:50] <TheSheep> helpme: open your file manager, and enable displaying of hidden files and directories
[05:50] <TheSheep> helpme: in the 'view' menu
[05:50] <TheSheep> helpme: then you should see the .share directory
[05:50] <helpme> where is it exactly?
[05:50] <helpme> in the wine folder?
[05:50] <helpme> my home folder?
[05:51] <TheSheep> helpme: in your home directory
[05:51] <TheSheep> helpme: sorry, it's .local/share
[05:51] <helpme> ok thanks
[05:51] <helpme> cool it worked
[05:51] <helpme> thanks
[05:52] <TheSheep> :)
[06:02] <artabrahao> what is dbus system service?
[06:06] <Merchelo> !dbus
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <TheSheep> artabrahao: it allows the various applications to communicate with themselves
[06:07] <TheSheep> artabrahao: for examle, when you start a new copy of thunar, it doesn't really start a new copy -- the binary you start only uses dbus and tells the already running copy of thunar to open new window, then finishes
[06:08] <TheSheep> artabrahao: it also allows different applications to cooperate better
[06:12] <artabrahao> how is possible you know a lot of thinks about this?!
[06:12] <TheSheep> artabrahao: I used it several times in my programs
[06:12] <TheSheep> artabrahao: see http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/IntroductionToDBus?highlight=%28dbus%29 for details
[06:13] <artabrahao> and Can I reinstall dbus?
[06:14] <TheSheep> artabrahao: apt-get install --reinstall dbus
[06:25] <Merchelo> !info FairUse4WM
[06:25] <ubotu> Package fairuse4wm does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:27] <godless> did w32codecs get taken off medibuntu or something?
[06:27] <artabrahao> there are several errors during the boot, is these errors in log? Where Can I find it?
[06:28] <godless> still listed at http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/packages.php but I can't seem to install it
[06:28] <TheSheep> artabrahao: try running dmesg | less
[06:35] <hyper_ch> godless: you could use Seveas' repo for the w32codecs
[06:36] <Catoptromancy> hmmm
[06:37] <Catoptromancy> seems I used to be able to aptitude w32codecs
[06:37] <TheSheep> !feisty-seveas
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feisty-seveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <TheSheep> :/
[06:37] <hyper_ch> !seveas
[06:37] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:38] <godless> hyper_ch:  I added it but it still won't come through apt-get
[06:38] <godless> weurd
[06:38] <godless> I'm wgetting the .deb
[06:38] <artabrahao> when I type df -h appears segmentation fault
[06:38] <godless> I don't know why apt-get isn't installing it
[06:38] <SwarthmoreDB> /info
[06:39] <hyper_ch> godless: well, how about an error?
[06:39] <TheSheep> artabrahao: check your memory and disks
[06:39] <Catoptromancy> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[06:39] <Catoptromancy> doing this worked
[06:40] <artabrahao> is chter a command to repair o check the disks
[06:40] <artabrahao> ?
[06:40] <godless> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[06:40] <godless> ARHGRJGKHF
[06:40] <hyper_ch> !info app-install-data-commercial
[06:41] <ubotu> app-install-data-commercial: Application Installer (data files for commercial applications). In component main, is optional. Version 7.1 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:41] <godless> well I have the .deb here. How do I install from that
[06:41] <godless> ?
[06:41] <godless> dpkg something something?
[06:41] <Catoptromancy> .deb is just click
[06:41] <godless> can I point apt-get at the .deb?
[06:41] <hyper_ch> godless: fix first your repos
[06:41] <godless> The repos are fine.. :/ I am using this sources.list on many boxen
[06:41] <godless> Catoptromancy:  I am ssh'd in
[06:42] <artabrahao> is there a command to repair or check the disks?
[06:42] <hyper_ch> well, I meant the installed packages... w32codecs are in the repos and if you can't install them then there is a problem
[06:42] <TheSheep> artabrahao: yes, fsck, but you need to unmount them first or at least remount read-only
[06:43] <TheSheep> !fsck | artabrahao
[06:43] <ubotu> artabrahao: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[06:43] <godless> hyper_ch:  Any idea what this problem might be? I am stumped...
[06:43] <godless> it just says no installation candidate... but I know it's there
[06:43] <godless> and apt-get update shows the seveas repo getting updated
[06:44] <godless> even other stuff worked like libdvdcss
[06:44] <hyper_ch> godless: hmmm, first I'd try:    sudo apt-get check
[06:44] <hyper_ch> godless: then:    sudo apt-get build-dep
[06:45] <godless> hyper_ch:  E: You must specify at least one package to check the builddeps for
[06:45] <hyper_ch> forget the second one if you don't use source packages
[06:45] <godless> check ran cleanly
[06:46] <hyper_ch> godless: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[06:46] <godless> no installation candidate
[06:47] <hyper_ch> apt-cache search w32codecs
[06:48] <godless> hyper_ch:  no output
[06:48] <hyper_ch> godless: apt-cache search w32codecs
[06:48] <godless> I've even emptied sources.list except for seveas
[06:48] <godless> hyper_ch:  no output
[06:49] <godless> rob@static:/etc/apt$ apt-cache search w32codecs
[06:49] <godless> rob@static:/etc/apt$
[06:49] <hyper_ch> godless: pastebin your repos
[06:49] <hyper_ch> oh, are you using 64-bit?
[06:50] <godless> yes!
[06:50] <hyper_ch> there we go
[06:50] <godless> ?
[06:50] <godless> no w32 for 64bit?
[06:50] <hyper_ch> well, it's win32 and not win64
[06:50] <godless> indeed
[06:50] <hyper_ch> so I tend to think they won't work
[06:50] <hyper_ch> godless: you may want to ask seveas about that
[06:51] <godless> is their a replacement for 64bit systems to run streaming video etc?
[06:51] <hyper_ch> no clue... don't have a 64bit processor
[06:51] <godless> me neither, 'helping' a friend :)
[06:52] <artabrahao> is the init.d/rc important? there are some errors
[06:52] <hyper_ch> actually, having a look at the repos/package page at medibuntu will give you the answre ;)
[06:52] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: what's the exact error?
[06:52] <hyper_ch> godless: actually, having a look at the repos/package page at medibuntu will give you the answre ;)
[06:54] <Deviad> Can anyone pls tell me what the best value for this is: ardcampa> LordFrith: anyway I wouldn't change from gentoo anyway. It still is the best OS for ME
 If they had their compiler in python, I would agree.
 hardcampa, have fun with your compiles. ?
[06:54] <Deviad> Alignment value to which kernel should be aligned (PHYSICAL_ALIGN) [0x100000]  (NEW)
[06:54] <logmein> how do I take a screenshot?
 is too fast to read
[06:55] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: without the error message I can't tell
[06:55] <hyper_ch> logmein: hmmm, with a script an the imagemagick library
[06:57] <artabrahao> line 82: 1953 segmentation failure
[06:57] <logmein> hyper_ch: yeah I got imagemagick but having trouble working on a script? anyway I can hotkey it to print scrn?
[07:01] <hyper_ch> logmein: http://phpfi.com/240302
[07:01] <hyper_ch> godless: found it?
[07:02] <godless> hyper_ch:  got it sorted, using mplayer and ignoring codecs altogether :)
[07:02] <godless> seems amd64's a bit of a pain
[07:02] <godless> working on nspluginwrapper so he can have flash in firefox now
[07:02] <hyper_ch> godless: you just to read whats on that page... what packages are available for the amd64
[07:04] <godless> hyper_ch:  Aye, thanks.
[07:05] <logmein> hyper_ch: umm what is that?
[07:05] <hyper_ch> logmein: some instructions.... not cleanly shown out but I'm sure you'll figure out
[07:08] <logmein> hyper_ch: where is this command shortcut section it speaks of?
[07:09] <hyper_ch> logmein: it says it there
[07:09] <logmein> ohhh I see
[07:12] <hyper_ch> logmein: that's good :)
[07:15] <logmein> hyper_ch: anyway to make thunar not open on /usr/bin automatically?
[07:15] <hyper_ch> logmein: dunno what you mean...
[07:17] <logmein> hyper_ch: well when I created that shortcut it wanted to find where script was at and thunar opened on /usr/bin with a huge lag because of all the files
[07:17] <hyper_ch> logmein: I don't know what you did... for me it works that way
[07:18] <Catoptromancy> thunar from a launcher button?
[07:19] <Catoptromancy> logmein : I have thunar on a launcher button, all I did was in command line path,  /home/desktop/
[07:20] <Catoptromancy> it could probably open anywhere with /path/path/path
[07:22] <TheSheep> anybody knows why there are no rt2400 wireless modules in fesity's kernel?
[07:22] <TheSheep> and where to get them easily ;)
[07:22] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: upgrade your chip to rt2500 ;)
[07:23] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: no such module either
[07:23] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: there is...
[07:23] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: at least my rt2500 chip runs out of the box
[07:23] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: on feisty?
[07:23] <hyper_ch> yes
[07:24] <hyper_ch> hyper@xubi:/boot/grub$ lspci | grep RT2
[07:24] <hyper_ch> 00:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)
[07:24] <hyper_ch> does that help?
[07:25] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: lsmod | grep rt2500
[07:25] <hyper_ch> TheSheep:
[07:25] <hyper_ch> hyper@xubi:/boot/grub$ lsmod | grep rt2500
[07:25] <hyper_ch> rt2500                178276  1
[07:26] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: can you check from which package you have your /lib/modules/<your kernel>/kernel/driver/net/wireless/rt2500.ko ?
[07:27] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: there was one kernel in feisty where the rt2500 wasn't working... I think it was the -11 one
[07:27] <TheSheep> :/
[07:27] <TheSheep> now I need to boot windows
[07:28] <hyper_ch> hyper@xubi:/boot/grub$ apt-file search rt2500.ko
[07:28] <hyper_ch> linux-image-2.6.20-15-386: lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00-legacy/rt2500/rt2500.ko
[07:28] <hyper_ch> linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic: lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00-legacy/rt2500/rt2500.ko
[07:28] <hyper_ch> is in the kernel package
[07:28] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: otherwise I don't know what you mean
[07:28] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I don't have the modules for rt2400 or rt2500
[07:29] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: actually, the net/wireless/ directory is very poor compared to the 2.6.15 kernel
[07:30] <logmein> TheSheep: ah crap I hated when I had to install rt drivers, it was when I first tried using linux and I nuked my system completely
[07:30] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: hmm, there are also 2400 files
[07:30] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: http://phpfi.com/240307
[07:31] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: I can give you the -15 and -16 generic drivers
[07:32] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: if that is any help
[07:32] <Catoptromancy> i have rt2500
[07:33] <hyper_ch> wow... I'm amazed... the first time TheSheep needs help... ;) normally he is the all-knowing guru here
[07:34] <Catoptromancy> my whole wireless setup is literally less than 1 minute
[07:34] <Catoptromancy> heh ive had to it so many times I made a script
[07:34] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I'm not at my box :(
[07:34] <hyper_ch> Catoptromancy: what setup?
[07:35] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: shall I email the RTx files?
[07:35] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: no, it won't fit other kernel version
[07:35] <Catoptromancy> 2 drivers and a .inf
[07:35] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: are kernels that picky?
[07:35] <Catoptromancy> ndis .debs in same folder, with an 1 click installer
[07:35] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: what kernel does that box have?
[07:36] <hyper_ch> Catoptromancy: you have rt2500 chip and need ndis?
[07:36] <Catoptromancy> no my wireles is fine
[07:36] <Catoptromancy> im saying I have rt2500 in case someone needs it
[07:36] <Catoptromancy> the 3 driver files
[07:37] <artabrahao> where are the log located?
[07:37] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: it worked without any ndiswrapper in dapper/edgy
[07:37] <TheSheep> artabrahao: in /var/log
[07:38] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: well, my chipset has also worked fine in dapper/edgy/feisty
[07:38] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: except for the .20-11 kernel....
[07:38] <TheSheep> ok, I'll try with the -15 one in a moment
[07:39] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: *thumbsup*
  there are a lot of log files, with one I can past in pastebin?
[07:39] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: what kernel is there right now?
[07:40] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: the one you need ;)
[07:41] <artabrahao> I think the best it the boot one, but I cant find a boot.log file
[07:42] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: then try syslog
[07:51] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: any news?
[07:52] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: talking to you from the newly installed xubuntu :)
[07:53] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: newly installed??? I thought you're just going to add a new kernel
[07:53] <TheSheep> artabrahao: type 'dmesg', that's the boot log
[07:53] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: that I did just now, but earlier I just installed it
[07:53] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I only had a dapper cd here, so I installed it and upgraded to gutsy
[07:54] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ah ok :) so the rt2400 works now?
[07:54] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: seems the recent gutsy kernel doesn't have the rt2400 support either
[07:54] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: yes, with a kernel from feisty
[07:54] <hyper_ch> told you: feisty rules ;)
[07:55] <hyper_ch> btw, how well does gutsy run?
[07:55] <hyper_ch> on monday I hand in my master-thesis and then I'm up for experimenting again ;)
[07:56] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: what subject?
[07:57] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: The implementation of the UN-Convention on the Elimination of any Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) in Switzerland
[07:57] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: social science?
[07:57] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: but now I know I'll never write a doctoral thesis... those 70p took too much time... Law
 and how Can I put it in pastebin?
[07:58] <TheSheep> artabrahao: copy it and paste into the browser's textarea
[07:58] <artabrahao> but via dmesg it is too long
[07:59] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: dsmeg > output.txt
[07:59] <hyper_ch> then open the output.txt in a browser or mousepad
[07:59] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: make ctrl-a --> ctrl-c
[07:59] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: and then post it :)
[07:59] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: 'a'?
[07:59] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ctrl-a --> mark all
[08:00] <TheSheep> ah
[08:00] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: don't tell me you didn't know?
[08:00] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I'm used to using screen
[08:00] <hyper_ch> !info screen
[08:00] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 571 kB, installed size 980 kB
[08:00] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: how?
[08:01] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: you run it in a terminal, then ctrl+a c creates a new 'virtual terminal, ctrl+a space switches them, etc.
[08:01] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: that's why MS made ctrl+a spce delete all the text by default -- it was on purpose
[08:01] <anthony_> Can anyone here tell me where desktop themes are stored in xubuntu?
[08:01] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ah ok :) well, I know you can do some cool things with screen (at least that's what I've heard) but I never had a look at it
[08:02] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: evil Remonders
[08:02] <hyper_ch> +d
[08:02] <TheSheep> anthony_: int your home directory in .themes or globally in /usr/share/themes/
[08:02] <anthony_> Okay, thanks, let me try that.
[08:02] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: the coolest thing is that you can detach it, disconnect, then connect from another computer next day and continue your work
[08:04] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: could you write a howto on doing those cool things?
[08:04] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: there are lots
[08:06] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: one that I can understand?
[08:06] <anthony_> Brand new to linux and xubuntu so pardon the question: why doesn't drag and drop work to move a folder to another directory?
[08:06] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[08:06] <anthony_> Better, how do I move folders from one directory to another?
[08:06] <TheSheep> anthony_: should work
[08:07] <hyper_ch> anthony_: it should work but it also depends on the permissions of the files/folders involved :)
[08:07] <hyper_ch> anthony_: what do you try to move where?
[08:07] <TheSheep> anthony_: what happens when you drag and drop a directory?
[08:08] <anthony_> it just displays an animation of returning where it was originally, but it seems it's only doing that when I try to move a file to /usr/share/themes. maybe I don't have the right permissions for that.
[08:08] <Xzite> ok... tonights question is why my install said "no kernel available from apt sources"?
[08:09] <hyper_ch> anthony_: by my feelings I tend to think that this folder belongs to root and that you only have read/exec rights there
[08:09] <anthony_> TheSheep I made a themes folder in my home directory and I placed a theme into it. How do I use it from there now?
[08:09] <TheSheep> anthony_: it's '.themes'
[08:10] <TheSheep> anthony_: with a period in front
[08:10] <hyper_ch> Xzite: hmm, maybe you selected a wrong installation cd... like 64bit for a 32bit system
[08:10] <anthony_> Yep, I'll change it.
[08:11] <hyper_ch> anthony_: a folder/file starting with a "." in linux is a hidden file/folder
[08:11] <TheSheep> anthony_: you can run thunar as root by typing 'gksu Thunar'
[08:11] <hyper_ch> anthony_: so in thunar you will have to enable the option of showing hidden ones
[08:11] <TheSheep> anthony_: but careful with that
[08:11] <Xzite> hyper_ch: erm... i downloaded http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso and i'm not running a 64-bit system so it should be the right one...
[08:12] <TheSheep> Xzite: did you test the cd fro defects?
[08:12] <TheSheep> for
[08:12] <anthony_> TheSheep Okay, but that folder isn't hiding now that I put the period in front.
[08:12] <Xzite> TheSheep: yes... didn't get any errors...
[08:13] <anthony_> Oh yes it is hidden now.
[08:14] <anthony_> TheSheep now why can't I see the new theme in User Interface Preferences?
[08:14] <TheSheep> anthony_: you just need to unpack your themes there, they should appear eitheri n the user interface settings or in window manager settings (depending on the theme kind)
[08:14] <TheSheep> anthony_: is this a gtk2 theme or xfce theme?
[08:14] <hyper_ch> Xzite: hmmm.... is the problem with starting ubuntu at all or does it appear when you try to install it?
[08:14] <Xzite> hyper_ch: got it during the step "install base system"
[08:15] <anthony_> TheSheep xfce
[08:15] <hyper_ch> Xzite: that is strange... but for installation I'd rather download the alternate cd and not the desktop one
[08:15] <TheSheep> anthony_: then it's a theme for the window borders, and you change it in the window manager settings
[08:15] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: it should work :/
[08:16] <anthony_> I have window manager open. I don' t see where I would change that setting.
[08:16] <Xzite> hyper_ch: perhaps i burned the alternate one, i know i downloaded both... lemme check...
[08:16] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: I know it should work... but it doesn't - I just know quite some people have problems getting the desktop cd installed
[08:16] <TheSheep> anthony_: the first tab
[08:17] <Xzite> hyper_ch: it was the alternate one i ran it from...
[08:17] <hyper_ch> Xzite: ok... then try the desktop one ;)
[08:17] <anthony_> TheSheep sorry I had Window manage Tweaks open. I found the right place now, but I still don't see that theme.
[08:18] <hyper_ch> Xzite: but that error is really strange...
[08:18] <artabrahao>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24744
[08:18] <Xzite> hyper_ch: aww... *screams in anger* you know how long it takes to install from a usb-cdrom... =P
[08:19] <TheSheep> anthony_: do you have a .themes/<theme name>/xfce4/themerc file?
[08:19] <hyper_ch> Xzite: nope... tell me, how long does it take? *g*
[08:19] <artabrahao> there are  42949417.280000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Is it bad?
[08:19] <Xzite> hyper_ch: this has been running for at least 3 hours =/
[08:19] <anthony_> TheSheep I don't know. where would it be
[08:20] <TheSheep> anthony_: in the .themes directory you just made
[08:20] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: do you have a floppy disk?
[08:20] <artabrahao> nope
[08:20] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: I mean floppy drive?
[08:20] <TheSheep> artabrahao: it means it failed reading from a diskette
[08:20] <hyper_ch> Xzite: what are 3h compared to a lifetime ;) sorry... I have no clue about that error... if the check cd didn't report any error it's really strange
[08:21] <Xzite> hyper_ch: i'm gonna try and run it with another drive and see what i get...
[08:21] <Xzite> after this is completed...
[08:22] <Xzite> i got an option "continue without bla bla bla... only expert users bla bla bla"
[08:25] <hyper_ch> Xzite: ???
[08:25] <hyper_ch> Xzite: what exactely?
[08:25] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: without kernel maybe? %)
[08:26] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: don't ask me... you're the super guru here ;)
[08:26] <Xzite> hyper_ch: it bascially said that an experienced user could continue the install and fix the problem later on but that the system might not start correctly...
[08:26] <hyper_ch> Xzite: well, I have no clue
[08:27] <Xzite> hyper_ch: same here.. but i'll see what happens =)
[08:27] <anthony_> should my .themes directory be in my home directory or in /home/myusername?
[08:27] <hyper_ch> Xzite: well, I don't know how you want to run the system without a kernel...
[08:28] <anthony_> Also, after running Thunar as root, am I back to normal again once I close that window?
[08:28] <Xzite> hyper_ch: could have been a translation error, i have no clue...
[08:29] <TheSheep> anthony_: yes, only that one window is running as root
[08:30] <TheSheep> anthony_: it's the same
[08:30] <artabrahao> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24746/ this is the error with aptitude or apt
[08:30] <TheSheep> anthony_: your home directory *is* /home/yourusername
[08:30] <anthony_> Okay, I see. It shows up differently when I'm running as root. confusing.
[08:31] <TheSheep> anthony_: ah, that's because root has his home directory somewhere else
[08:31] <TheSheep> anthony_: but you don't need root to copy to your home -- only to /usr/share/themes
[08:32] <anthony_> okay, that makes sense.
[08:32] <anthony_> my home direcctory is within root's home directory, right?
[08:33] <hyper_ch> yes.... /home/YOURUSERNAME
[08:33] <TheSheep> artabrahao: I think you ran out of disk space on your installm,and that causes all the errors
[08:33] <TheSheep> anthony_: it's withing root directory, but nor ROOT'S HOME directory
[08:34] <TheSheep> anthony_: your home is /home/yournick, root's home directory is /root/, the 'root' directory is /
[08:34] <anthony_> Okay, whatever. I'm starting to figure it out.
[08:34] <TheSheep> anthony_: this is confusing because both the user and top of the filesystem ar called 'root'
  there are 4GB avaliable in disk, where is installm?
[08:35] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: 4g aren't much
[08:35] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: do:   df -l   in a terminal
[08:35] <TheSheep> artabrahao: can you pastebin the result of 'df' ?
[08:35] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: it's more than enough
[08:35] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: not really :)
[08:35] <godless> sure it is
[08:36] <godless> You will need another partition for all your wAREZ and pr0n, of course.
[08:36] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: my first hard disk drive had 20MB
[08:36] <hyper_ch> well, I have already used 4.5 GB of my root dir (out of 30gb available)
[08:36] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: my first computer didn't have a harddrive
[08:36] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: that too
[08:37] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: 2x 5 1/4 floppies with 512kb ram and black/green screen
[08:37] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: 2x? hah, you were lucky!
[08:37] <hyper_ch> 16mhz if I remember correctly
[08:37] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I bet they also were HD
[08:37] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: I don't remember
[08:37] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I had a single 5.25" DD drive (360kB per disk)
[08:37] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: but I played Ports of Call there :)
[08:38] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: I think I had HDs
 appears segmentation fault
[08:38] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: they were whooping 720kB
[08:38] <hyper_ch> artabrahao: do in a termiminal:     df -l     and pastebin the output
[08:38] <TheSheep> artabrahao: you're using lvm?
[08:38] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: you remember Ports of Call?
[08:38] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: never heard of it
 whtat is lvm?
[08:39] <TheSheep> artabrahao: logical volume management
[08:39] <TheSheep> !lvm
[08:39] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:39] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: no? It was a ship simulation game... you start with some money.. buy some ship... repair it... ship goods around the oceans... avoid storms and icebergs....
[08:39] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: earn money.... buy better ships....
[08:39] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I played Wolfpack
[08:40] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: most money you got from San Francisco to Karachi shippings arms and weapons
[08:40] <artabrahao> When I type !lvm appears event not found
[08:40] <TheSheep> artabrahao: that's not a command, I just wanted ubotu to show you a link
[08:41] <anthony_> TheSheep the folder that I placed into the .themes directory is named Aqualooks-0.1.0. It contains a bunch of files and a folder named Themes which contains Makefile.am and Makefile.in and 3 folders with the names of three themes. Each of those folders contains a Gtk-2.0 folder with a single file inside. Is that the way it's supposed to be and have I put it in the right place?
[08:41] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: the first Amiga Version in 1986
[08:42] <TheSheep> artabrahao: try 'lvm lvs'
[08:42] <TheSheep> anthony_: no, you have downloaded some sources, you only want the contents of the 'Themes' directory in your .themes
[08:43] <anthony_> Okay. Thanks.
[08:43] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I was 6 years old then
[08:43] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: well, that was when it was released...
[08:43] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: but I think I played it a few years later
[08:44] <hyper_ch> so, I'm "off" now :)
[08:44] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: I think I got the first pc in nineties
[08:44] <anthony_> TheSheep So I should put the contents of the themes directory into .themes, including or not including the two Makefiles?
  no volume groups foung
  no volume groups found
[08:44] <TheSheep> anthony_: the 'gtkrc' files should go to .themes/<name of the theme>/gtkrc
[08:45] <TheSheep> anthony_: and all other files accordingly
[08:45] <TheSheep> anthony_: ignore any files in directories above that
[08:45] <TheSheep> artabrahao: ok, so you're not using lvm
  and now?
[08:47] <TheSheep> artabrahao: it should appear in the user interface menu
[08:47] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: found this: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html
[08:48] <anthony_> The Sheep Okay, the way the gtkrc files are now is .themes/nameoftheme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc. So what I should do is remove the gtkrc file from the gtk-2.0 folder and put it into .themes/name of theme, right or wrong?
[08:48] <TheSheep> anthony_: ah, no, it's good now
[08:48] <TheSheep> anthony_: sorry, forgot about the gtk-2.0 directory
[08:48] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: thx
 but I cant install in terminal mode
[08:49] <TheSheep> artabrahao: sorry, I confused you with anthony_ :)
[08:49] <TheSheep> artabrahao: check your disks, it seems that your installation is heavily corrupted
[08:49] <TheSheep> artabrahao: backup any important data and do a reinstall
[08:52] <anthony_> TheSheep Sorry to pester you so much. So should it look like this: .themes/nameoftheme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc?
[08:53] <TheSheep> anthony_: yes
[08:53] <TheSheep> anthony_: and no problem :)
[08:54] <TheSheep> anthony_: if you copied them as root, make sure you have the read permissions
[08:57] <anthony_> Okay, they're showing up in User Interface Preferences now. They are aqua-look themes, and it looks like they don't affect anything that the window manager handles, is that right?
[09:00] <TheSheep> anthony_: yes
[09:00] <TheSheep> anthony_: window manager has separate themes
[09:04] <anthony_> Thanks for your help, TheSheep. So now I have another theme called Vistabut. It consists of nothing but a folder with all the png files for the theme in it. How do I use that?
[09:05] <anthony_> And why isn't there a standard format for these things so they are usable by new users?
[09:06] <TheSheep> anthony_: no idea, there is no themerc or gtkrc file in there?
[09:06] <TheSheep> anthony_: mybe it's not a gtk2/xfwm theme?
[09:07] <anthony_> would the themerc or gtkrc file be in the same directory with all the graphics files?
[09:08] <anthony_> I downloaded it and the others from kfcelook.org, I believe.
 is there a way to reinstall keeping the data?
[09:18] <anthony_> TheSheep what is the name of the app i should use to unarchive a package ending with .rpm?
[09:19] <TheSheep> anthony_: best avoid it, the installer is called 'alien', but it's better to find a deb or compile your own and make a deb
[09:21] <pbouige>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[09:22] <anthony_> I was disconnected for a little. Did TheSheep answer my last question?
[09:23] <TheSheep> 21:19 < TheSheep> anthony_: best avoid it, the installer is called 'alien', but  it's better to find a deb or compile your own and make a deb
[09:24] <anthony_> TheSheep  and a deb is what?
[09:24] <TheSheep> anthony_: the package format used by debian and its derivatives, ubuntu and xubuntu included
[09:24] <anthony_> How will I recognize it?
[09:25] <TheSheep> anthony_: it ends with .deb
[09:25] <TheSheep> anthony_: and is often called 'debian package'
[09:25] <anthony_> All right thanks.
[09:25] <TheSheep> anthony_: what do you want to install
[09:25] <TheSheep> ?
[09:25] <anthony_> A typing program for students.
[09:26] <anthony_> tuxtype
[09:26] <TheSheep> anthony_: there is klavaro in the repos, pretty good
[09:26] <TheSheep> anthony_: tuxtype is also availably in the repositories
[09:26] <TheSheep> anthony_: just use synaptic
[09:26] <TheSheep> !info tuxtype
[09:26] <ubotu> tuxtype: Educational Typing Tutor Game Starring Tux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6.dfsg1-3ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 59 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:26] <TheSheep> !info klavaro
[09:26] <ubotu> klavaro: A very flexible touch typing tutor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (feisty), package size 254 kB, installed size 1368 kB
[09:26] <anthony_> TheSheep I don't have an internet connection on the linux machine.
[09:26] <hyper_ch> anthony_: sudo aptitude install tuxtype
[09:27] <TheSheep> anthony_: download the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <hyper_ch> anthony_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:27] <anthony_> I'll do that. Thanks.
[09:27] <hyper_ch> anthony_: you need to get at least the required packages:
[09:27] <hyper_ch> The following extra packages will be installed:
[09:27] <hyper_ch>   libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 tuxtype-data
[09:27] <hyper_ch> Suggested packages:
[09:27] <hyper_ch>   tuxtype-data-nonfree
[09:27] <hyper_ch> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[09:27] <hyper_ch>   libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 tuxtype tuxtype-data
[09:28] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: they are also listed on the packages... page
[09:28] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: oh ;) didn't know
[09:32] <leobloom> hallo!
[09:33] <leobloom> who can give me the link to the minimum installation of xubntu? (the one starting from an alternate cd and building eth up through the command line and an internet connection
[09:33] <Jester45> !iso
[09:33] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:34] <Jester45> just a second
[09:34] <Jester45> so you want the netinstall one?
[09:34] <leobloom> I think it was that
[09:34] <leobloom> I can't found it anymore, I have an edgy xubuntu alternate
[09:35] <leobloom> I've just added 256mb to my notebook and want to see if it goes faster
[09:35] <hyper_ch> !install | leobloom
[09:35] <ubotu> leobloom: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[09:35] <hyper_ch> check out the installation link there... they have all sorts of installs
[09:36] <leobloom> perfect
[09:36] <leobloom> I've found that page again =o) it's for ubuntu, the procedure will do well on xubuntu too right?
[09:36] <leobloom> thanks hyper
[09:37] <hyper_ch> leobloom: yeah, should be the same
[09:37] <test3r> I'm having CUPS problems  =(  I added my printer, & it saw it & it was good. Then I tried to print from inkscape and it started to send a 11MB postscript thru the air - LoL so I tried to cancel it from the winblows box? The job wont go away
[09:37] <anthony_> TheSheep, when I rightclick on the deb package, the default application to open it with is "GDebi Package installer." is this correct?
[09:37] <test3r> lpstat shows nothing
[09:37] <hyper_ch> leobloom: the only difference beteween the ubuntu versions are the desktop environment and default isntalled software
[09:38] <hyper_ch> anthony_: yes it is
[09:38] <leobloom> so it'll do the trick =O) I haven't installed xubuntu for a while so I don't rmember differences anymore
[09:38] <leobloom> thanks a lot, I'm going to try now
[09:38] <hyper_ch> leobloom: the underlaying system is all the same... just the DE and default applications differ
[09:38] <anthony_> hyper_ch, it tells me: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libsdl-image1.2
[09:39] <hyper_ch> anthony_: then you need to install that first
[09:39] <anthony_> hyper_ch how do I do that?
[09:39] <Jester45> anthony_, then libsdl-image1.2 isnt in the repo but its called libsdl-image in the repo so install  that
[09:39] <anthony_> Okay.
[09:40] <hyper_ch> anthony_: download it
[09:40] <anthony_> Will do.
[09:40] <test3r> how do i clear a CUPS que?
[09:40] <test3r> the whole que is fine
[09:41] <hyper_ch> anthony_: get all those:   libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 tuxtype tuxtype-data
[09:41] <hyper_ch> test3r: no clue... tried rebooting?
[09:41] <hyper_ch> or disable cups and starting it again?
[09:41] <anthony_> hyper_ch sheesh.
[09:42] <test3r> there we go ok ok i had to rebot the winblows box it seems. no i was able to cancel the job from the printers box.  now lets see if when i send a test page it says its sending it as job 1 or job 4
[09:42] <hyper_ch> anthony_: well... if you had internet on that computer apt-get, aptitude, adept, synpatic would take care of that...
[09:43] <anthony_> Yep. I know. as it is I have to download, transfer to flash drive, eject, plug into other machine, transfer, install. What fun.
[09:43] <test3r> it says its job 4. but i hear my printer getting ready.
[09:44] <hyper_ch> test3r: dunno... my printer works fine when I tell him to print something
[09:44] <hyper_ch> test3r: it's neatly attached to the router :)
[09:44] <test3r> its just sitting at 64k
[09:45] <test3r> im printing thru SAMBA and winblows shared printer
[09:45] <test3r> this is what it did last try- it sent first 64k then it was like - J/K
[09:46] <test3r> er, Trying to print. it's not doing much of anything.
[09:47] <test3r> maybe my driver neds switch. there is a 1300 and a 1310 and mine is lik the 1325 or something perhaps i try root driver
[09:56] <emdash> whoever maintains the pida package did not include the documentation
[09:56] <feliciano> hi there
[09:56] <Jester45> hi
[09:57] <feliciano> I upgrade xfce to 4.4.1 and I miss my device icons at the desktop
[09:57] <feliciano> Do you know How can I got them?
[09:57] <emdash> yes
[09:57] <emdash> but i can't remember
[09:57] <emdash> hang on
[09:59] <hyper_ch> settings --> desktop setting --> the other tab...
[09:59] <Jester45> then check the boxes on what you want
[09:59] <feliciano> hyper_ch, Jester45... that options isnt at xfce 4.4.1
[10:00] <hyper_ch> feliciano: well... hmm... then I don't know
[10:00] <feliciano> thanks... I hope emdash remember
[10:01] <Jester45> it should have that
[10:01] <TheSheep> feliciano: I have installed 4.4.1-2ubuntu1 and it has these options
[10:01] <hyper_ch> right-click the destkop --> desktop settings --> behaviour
[10:02] <feliciano> TheSheep... I upgrade xfce 4.4.1 ... what's that of 4.4.1-2ubuntu??
[10:03] <TheSheep> feliciano: a package version and build number from the ubuntu repositories
[10:03] <feliciano> hyper_ch.. I dont have xfce 4.4.0, thats options doesnt appear now
[10:04] <hyper_ch> then get 4.4.0 ^^
[10:04] <feliciano> TheSheep ... I dont know, I just download the graphic installer version and follow the instructions from xfce.org
[10:04] <TheSheep> feliciano: just get an ubuntu build, not some 3rd party packages
[10:05] <feliciano> TheSheep ... I dont understand... You mean I upgrade it bad??
[10:06] <feliciano> TheSheep where can I get a ubuntu build??
[10:07] <TheSheep> feliciano: from the gutsy repositories
[10:07] <feliciano> mmmm
[10:07] <TheSheep> feliciano: installing unsupported packagehges not prepared by the ubuntu team is obviously not supported
[10:07] <feliciano> you are using gutsy... thats the diference
[10:07] <TheSheep> feliciano: it uses xfce 4.4.1
[10:07] <feliciano> Ok...
[10:08] <feliciano> And then.. How can I upgrade to gutsy??
[10:08] <feliciano> TheSheep
[10:09] <TheSheep> feliciano: well, I just edited /etc/apt/sources.list and replaced all 'fesity' with 'gutsy', then did apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, resolved the dependency conflicts that remained, and it's done
[10:09] <TheSheep> feliciano: keep in mind that gutsy is still in alpha, not nearly finished
[10:10] <feliciano> ok... I thinks is better downgrade to 4.4.0 and wait to gutsy :D
[10:10] <TheSheep> feliciano: it will be released in October
[10:10] <feliciano> TheSheep thanks for your help
[10:10] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: watch out for your wireless
[10:11] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: why?
[10:11] <hyper_ch> I'm more worried about grub ;)
[10:11] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: rt2400 et all ;)
[10:11] <hyper_ch> i have 2500 ;)
[10:13] <emdash> fuck
[10:14] <emdash> my battery died
[10:14] <emdash> for future reference: open thunar, edit -> preferences
[10:14] <emdash> select advanced
[10:14] <TheSheep> !language | emdash
[10:14] <ubotu> emdash: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:14] <TheSheep> :)
[10:15] <emdash> click "enable volume management"
[10:15] <TheSheep> emdash: besides, feliciano is gone already and this is not what he meant, but I can thank you in his name
[10:16] <emdash> what did he mean then?
[10:16] <TheSheep> emdash: desktop settings->behavior->show icons for...
[10:18] <emdash> TheSheep: you don't get icons for removable devices if you don't have volume management enabled though, do you?
[10:19] <TheSheep> emdash: I do
[10:19] <emdash> okay
[10:19] <emdash> never mind then
[10:19] <Merchelo> thanks dud3s
[10:19] <Merchelo> i gotz a job
[10:19] <TheSheep> emdash: volume management is rather for running programs when you connect/insert devices
[10:20] <emdash> hm
[10:20] <emdash> makes enabling it kinda silly then
[10:20] <emdash> since i have all the options unchecked
[10:20] <artabrahao> is possible install a ubuntu without format?
[10:21] <TheSheep> artabrahao: yes, although you never know if th old installattion won't interfere
[10:21] <TheSheep> artabrahao: luckily, all your data files should be only in your home directory
[10:21] <emdash> that's why i keep separate partitions for /home
[10:21] <emdash> you only need about 7 gigs for / anyways
[10:21] <emdash> or rather, I only need
[10:22] <TheSheep> emdash: 7 gigs??? do you have all the packages from all versions of ubuntu installed???
[10:22] <emdash> TheSheep: it leaves room for /tmp and /var to grow
[10:22] <Jester45> i got 10gb for /
[10:22] <artabrahao> tk
[10:22] <artabrahao> tks
[10:22] <hyper_ch> I think I have 30
[10:22] <emdash> TheSheep: i used to allocate 4, but i'd start running out of space
[10:23] <TheSheep> emdash: amazing
[10:23] <hyper_ch> emdash: if you burn a dvd with k3b it does by default store the temp data in /tmp  ;)
[10:23] <Jester45> and gnomebaker
[10:23] <TheSheep> emdash: I have 3GB and never run close to full except for the updates
[10:24] <emdash> right now i think / is only using 1.2gb, but it will grow
[10:24] <Jester45> i got a 10gb / and i have 6.5 left
[10:24] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: doesn't k3b have an option to burn in fly?
[10:24] <emdash> i just installed 7.04
[10:24] <emdash> so i haven't yet got around to filling my hard drive with crap
[10:24] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: I think it has... but I never check that
[10:25] <Jester45> it does
[10:25] <hyper_ch> --> /dev/sda3             28834744   4587568  22782452  17% /
[10:25] <Jester45> qdvdauthor also uses /tmp to store data
[10:25] <Jester45> for both encoding and burning
[10:25] <emdash> i usually use mkisofs and cdrecord
[10:25] <emdash> but that's just me =)
[10:26] <hyper_ch> but then... I have plenty of space anyway ;)
[10:26] <emdash> i should try xfburn sometime though
[10:26] <Jester45> no not xfburn it pretty bad
[10:26] <emdash> o yeah?
[10:26] <Jester45> it scraped 2 of my dvd rw s
[10:26] <emdash> that's a shame
[10:27] <hyper_ch> scraped?
[10:27] <emdash> well cdrecord has taken many of mine as burnt offerings =)
[10:27] <Jester45> yea while blanking it errored and i cant unerror that part now
[10:27] <emdash> usually as a result of command line impiety
[10:28] <Chikubu> hi pplz
[10:28] <emdash> does xfburn use cdrecord as a backend?
[10:28] <Chikubu> ne1 running xbuntu on SLOOOooower macnhine?
[10:28] <emdash> for me cdrecord doesn't work unless I use driveropts=burnfree
[10:28] <emdash> which makes the machine noticably laggy
[10:28] <hyper_ch> Jester45: use gnomebaker... it can delete that stuff and make it usable again
[10:29] <Jester45> i do use gnomebaker
[10:29] <emdash> i'll say one thing about mac os x, you can burn cd-rw's at full speed while compiling software even on a crappy little ibook
[10:29] <Jester45> whats hard about burning at full speed
[10:30] <emdash> my htinkpad seems to have an issue with that
[10:30] <emdash> obviously the faster you burn the easier it is to get a buffer under-run
[10:39] <test31> Whelp im hardwired my laptop to the LAN now, and it still doesnt want to print it seems. it sends the first 64K each time acording to the winbows print spool
[10:43] <test31> hello?
[10:44] <Jester45> hi?
[10:47] <test31> hihi. it sayd i left but im here obviously
[10:47] <test31> its weird when u watch urself leavein a chan
[10:48] <Jester45> well... your test31 not test3r
[11:29] <Chikubu> ne1 running xbuntu on SLOOOooower macnhine?
[11:31] <Jester45> yes
[11:32] <Jester45> its 400mhz 256mb ram
[11:32] <Jester45> TheSheep,  has a lot slow one running
[11:32] <Chikubu> hows it do?  i got even older
[11:32] <Chikubu> 486
[11:33] <godless> 486 is probably pushing it a bit... maybe damnsmalllinux?
[11:33] <Chikubu> i have 192 ram but right now bios sees only 128
[11:33] <somerville32> 486mhz?
[11:33] <godless> i486
[11:33] <Chikubu> 486 chipset 100mhz
[11:34] <godless> Chikubu:  What do you want to do with the machine?
[11:34] <godless> For desktop use, web browsing etc you will find it pretty obsolete I think
[11:34] <Chikubu> was gonna try dsl-n but was a hard install, machine has problems dead cd dead floppy
[11:34] <Chikubu> was gonna use as wireless print server
[11:34] <godless> but you could turn it into a router/server etc...
[11:34] <godless> yeah
[11:34] <Chikubu> light browsing
[11:35] <godless> maybe in lynx :)
[11:35] <Chikubu> hopefully run win95/98 windoz stuff
[11:35] <Chikubu> it boots 98 now, but is unstable, wanted more stability as print server
[11:36] <Chikubu> gonna install linux by putting drive in another machine then transplant
[11:36] <Chikubu> wanted xubuntu's install perks, managefree space on partitions ect so i wouldnt have to spend ages getting eveything right
[11:36] <godless> http://www.ipt.ntnu.no/~knutb/linux486/linux486.html
[11:37] <Chikubu>   thnx
[11:37] <godless> xubuntu is probably not going to be much good on a 486 without a lot of tweaking, but you do have enough ram...
[11:38] <Chikubu> just has to sit there and print
[11:38] <Chikubu> look around web some be good
[11:38] <Chikubu> run the kids older win9598 games be excellant, but can boot to 98 if have to
[11:39] <Chikubu> otherwise im drilling lots of holes and running wire or buying wireless print server
[11:39] <Chikubu> printer is wide format printer only place in house for room is in loft
[11:40] <Chikubu> ease of install is why i wanna try xbuntu, dsl-n would need loadln or install in another box as cd's floopy is dead
[11:40] <Chikubu> loadlin
[11:42] <Chikubu> guess ill try, if too slow fight with dsl-n, looked at monkey able to run on 386 but the being made in chez is odd
[11:42] <TheSheep> Chikubu: I recently tried archlinux and it's pretty good on weak boxes -- and you can install it from any other runnung linux, including dsl or ubuntu
[11:42] <TheSheep> Chikubu: but it requires a linux experience
[11:44] <Chikubu> getting the boot manager and partitioning right is the hang up for me, linux uses more than one partition some times, swap files ect
[11:44] <TheSheep> Chikubu: well, if you have loads of ram you don't have to use swap
[11:44] <Chikubu> maybe ill use xubuntu to get it right and then step down to dsl-n
[11:45] <TheSheep> Chikubu: there is a nice guide on partitioning
[11:45] <TheSheep> !partition | Chikubu
[11:45] <ubotu> Chikubu: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:45] <Chikubu> have problem getting bios to see all the ram right now, ill get around it eventualy
[11:45] <Chikubu> mount i can do, just not sure what parts i need, there is a journaling partition too i think?
[11:46] <TheSheep> Chikubu: I had a box that used two kinds of slots for the memory, but you could only use one kind at a time -- if yuo inserted ram in both, funny things happened
[11:46] <Chikubu> that a chan command?
[11:46] <Chikubu> !partition | Chikubu
[11:46] <TheSheep> Chikubu: yes
[11:46] <TheSheep> !bot | Chikubu
[11:46] <ubotu> Chikubu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:46] <Chikubu> !partition
[11:46] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:46] <TheSheep> Chikubu: it won;t repeat itself too often though
[11:47] <Chikubu> i have a wad of ram to try, i think i had it recognizing all once b4
[11:48] <Chikubu> can only boot to linux from live cd atm
[12:14] <ibb> i am getting the error E: (program folder) : unable to connect to `abiword
[12:14] <ibb> what does that mean?
[12:14] <ibb> that is while trying to install a software package
[12:16] <TheSheep> ibb: try 'sudo apt-get install abiword' in the terminal instead
[12:16] <ibb> tried but it is already installed, it is saying
[12:16] <ibb> abiword-gnome is already installed
[12:16] <TheSheep> you don't see it in the menu?
[12:16] <ibb> i do
[12:18] <ibb> i have a compact flash as the HD
[12:19] <TheSheep> ibb: so what's wrong?
[12:19] <ibb> it does not allow for upgrades of installs, even though it downloads the stuff
[12:20] <Ktron> Is there a way to make the xfce panel ~10 pixels short of full width? (or 1% or whatever)
[12:21] <TheSheep> Ktron: no, you only have two options, full width or expenanded to the contents
[12:22] <Ktron> TheSheep: hm... that's too bad... I'll have to look at the Task List item some more and see if I can tell it to not group as quickly, maybe that'll work instead
[12:22] <TheSheep> Ktron: I think you can force the size of the task list instead
[12:23] <TheSheep> Ktron: but not sure, not using it
[12:24] <Ktron> TheSheep: just curious, what do you use?
[12:24] <TheSheep> Ktron: pager and iconbox for the minimized apps
[12:25] <bulio> would Xubuntu run quite well on a machine with 380MB ram, 533Mhz CPU and an integrated graphics (2mb agp)?
[12:25] <TheSheep> bulio: yes, very well
[12:26] <bulio> and its stable enough?


[20:33] <kirkland> LinuxJournal just published a nice article on MAAS: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/weapons-maas-deployment
[23:03] <bigjools> kirkland: nice


[00:06] <fliegenpilzmann> This one shall work with linux: D-Link DWA-131 WLAN Nano USB-Stick
[00:22] <lxle> Anyone know if when 'unattended-upgrades' is set to download the packagelist, does it download an entire packagelist or just the 'allowed' repository parameters you have set, like 'security'
[01:24] <Myrth> hi
[01:24] <Myrth> trying to install latest Lubuntu with full disk encryption, getting this error: http://i.imgur.com/VkCyVEM.png
[01:25] <Myrth> how can i open shell window during installation?
[01:25] <Myrth> to run swapoff...
[01:40] <Myrth> wow lubuntu is really not ready
[01:40] <Myrth> gives option to use LVM during install but doesn't have it installed, had to install it on the trial
[01:44] <ScioMin> Hi. I need help to fix my sound. It was working since I installed Lubuntu 16.04 yesterday. Now it no longer shows the speaker icon on indicator panel. And when it shows the user/password prompt it plays a brief broken sound.
[01:48] <ScioMin> This plays noise on my headset: speaker-test -Dsysdefault:CARD=Headset
[02:58] <ball> hello AntumDeluge
[06:57] <FXpro> I have a bit of a problem
[06:57] <FXpro> when I load lubuntu live from usb it will not allow wifi
[06:59] <FXpro> wifi works fine on windows though
[09:00] <FXpro> I gotta give it to lubuntu, out of all the distros I tried it seems the most stable and reliable so far
[09:03] <FXpro> it stays connected to the internet in other words ;p
[16:11] <Quacke00> Hi
[16:11] <wxl> yo
[16:11] <Quacke00> Are there tools to create bootable usb excluding unetbootin?
[16:12] <wxl> i suggest dd, personally, but there are tons out there. dd is the only thing i've had real luck with.
[16:13] <Quacke00> Thanks :)
[19:29] <Quacke00> Is there a way to make "update-grub" search on /dev/sdb and not /dev/sda
[19:29] <wxl> you could chroot
[19:30] <wxl> !chroot | Quacke00
[19:35] <wxl> um Quacke00 i should add that you ideally re-bind your system directories
[19:35] <wxl> Quacke00: https://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd#145253
[19:56] <Quacke00> wxl, may you please help out at #5 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[19:57] <Quacke00> All I need is update-grub to find my bootable usb on /dev/sdb
[19:57] <wxl> Quacke00: oh my, they make this far more complicated. just read the other link i sent
[20:05] <FXpro> I was listening to a youtube recently about ubuntu and the person speaking said it is end of life for ubuntu which I think anyone making such a bold claim is an idiot.  logic tells you after years of development people are not just going to toss that hard work into the garbage can.
[20:09] <wxl> FXpro: i don't know what the context was, but canonical just dropped development of unity and everything else that went into their convergence efforts. so, it's true to some degree.
[20:13] <FXpro> sure thats what the guy was saying but come on now.  it is true innovations come along that make other previous methods obsolete in any industry.  for example we are on the cusp of a new renaissance world wide and that is not in any particular industry either.
[20:14] <lyn||ian> FXpro, but new things also build on previous technoligies
[20:16] <FXpro> I can make a point here because I know first hand.
[20:16] <FXpro> take for example the mining industry...
[20:18] <FXpro> i happen to know the inventors of a new tech that blows current methods out of the water so to speak, is completely green, and gets a recovery of almost 100%.  does that make cyanide leach method useless?  nope.  because that particular industry is going to use what they have got until the new thing goes viral and commercial.
[20:19] <FXpro> likewise, the russians have invented a new method that makes all of it obsolete at least if their process is not some bs lie which, all indications say it is not.
[20:20] <FXpro> so here in linux world a similar thing applies.  everyone is still going to use the current methods.  but I can say things move a lot faster in software development than in other industries.  rightfully so too.
[20:21] <FXpro> I mean come on now!  its the 21st century and we should all be flying around in george jetson cars but that is a case of manipulation and suppression of technology the "eeeevil council" does not want the public to have.
[20:30] <Quacke00> wxl, I did this steps, sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev, and /mnt/dev, /mnt/sys, /mnt/proc got populated. When I enter "sudo chroot /mnt" I get           "chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory"
[20:32] <wxl> Quacke00: probably from that terrible link i sent before :/