[02:39] <farruinn> Myrtti: aye
[02:39] <LinuxJones> farruinn, good man yourself :)
[02:39] <NormD> thoreauputic: sadly, I suspect we're in a refreshing lull now...while linuxes are close to "just working" goodness, and a bit before the hordes fleeing MS arrive...
[02:39] <Myrtti> never sleep
[02:39] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: sleep is overrated ;)
[02:39] <Gaaruto> lol Myrtti
[02:39] <membreya> ohgood: it's mounted as my /media/downloads directory
[02:40] <Myrtti> I'm too much a nerd to not know this stuff :-)
[02:40] <thoreauputic> NormD: you clearly weren't here yesterday ;-)
[02:40] <ohgood> membreya, this is something you want to check _befor_ killing a filesystem ;)
[02:40] <kqj> membreya, you can't have a file system partition used as swap, nor the contrary, you must create a partition to be used as swap
[02:40] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, my old PC is too loud, to sleep with it on
[02:40] <membreya> ohgood: I've used the same partition before when I had it as a fat32
[02:41] <membreya> I have a feeling my fstab is outdated :P
[02:41] <NormD> thoreauputic: *laugh* how true...I was still fighting with my wireless card in ubuntu 5.01 and mepis...: )
[02:41] <Myrtti> LinuxJones: some of us have shell accounts on servers that reside perhaps in another city even :-)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: heheh - i keep forgetting the xmms alarm is set for 7AM :)
[02:41] <ohgood> membreya, doesn't matter what it's been used as.
[02:41] <membreya> aaaah /dev/sda5 not 6 :P
[02:41] <LinuxJones> heh
[02:41] <ohgood> membreya, use fdisk -l             for re-familiarization with partitions
[02:41] <membreya> ohgood: :P
[02:42] <membreya> woohooo! :D
[02:42] <membreya> fixed :)
[02:42] <thoreauputic> ohgood: he's way ahead of you ;-)
[02:42] <ohgood> what's with all the ':P" ? try to heelp someone.... mmm
[02:42] <deFrysk> ohgood, ;p
[02:42] <membreya> i like my tongue sticking out :|
[02:42] <thoreauputic> ohgood: he has a warped sense of humour - pay no attention ;-)
[02:42] <membreya> if I could, I would do a ALT+0222 :)
[02:43] <membreya> narcissistic bugger thoreauputic :P
[02:43] <Gaaruto> hi gilbs72
[02:43] <Gaaruto> :)
[02:43] <Seveas> hello :D
[02:44] <thoreauputic> membreya: I have a serious character disorder - that's why we understand each other :P
[02:44] <Seveas> Welcome to the real world, it suck, you're gonna love it :)
[02:44] <gilbs72> <-- newbie  :)
[02:44] <gilbs72> hello everyone
[02:44] <Gaaruto> lol Seveas
[02:44] <membreya> ouch .. I'm down to 6Mb of phsyical memory left .. I think I need to get another 512 :P thankfully with my swap though, I now have 256Mb available :)
[02:44] <Seveas> (c) Courteney Cox Arquette as Monica Geller in Friends :)
[02:44] <gilbs72> pardon the slow response. still trying to figure things out
[02:44] <Gaaruto> where is it taken ?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> gilbs72: welcome, O traveller to the gates of HAdes!
[02:45] <membreya> thoreauputic: I prefer to think of linux as pergatory
[02:45] <membreya> erm
[02:45] <membreya> purgatory even
[02:45] <membreya> damn ...4 hours sleep a night :()
[02:45] <Seveas> that's a lot
[02:45] <thoreauputic> membreya: I'm not a lapsed Catholic so I don't have a pergatory :P
[02:46] <Gaaruto> ah yes ! Friends !!!
[02:46] <Gaaruto> lol
[02:46] <NormD> "gates of hades" ?  huh?  I thought Linux was the Promised Land! /parts to join #BillGatesNeverLandRanch...
[02:46] <StarScreem> membreya: so whats heavan then...?
[02:46] <gilbs72> thanks for the welcome... will lurk in the shadows and see what new things i pick up
[02:46] <thoreauputic> hmm..membreya's lousy spelling is rubbing off on me...
[02:46] <thoreauputic> gilbs72: beware - everything is very hot down here...
[02:46] <membreya> heaven is linux fully configured and running everything how you want it to the point that you never need to configure anything ever again...the holy grail if you will
[02:47] <Seveas> it's sooo much fun :)
[02:47] <prego> How do I force nautilus to "recompute" a thumbnail for a pdf file?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> membreya: what is your....favourite colour?
[02:47] <membreya> some might say windows is heaven, they do say after all ..ignorance is bliss
[02:47] <membreya> thoreauputic: purple :D
[02:47] <Seveas> membreya: windows is only blue sky
[02:47] <Seveas> linux is heaven :)
[02:48] <NormD> membreya:  never happen.  there's always security patching, and occasional gnome/kde eyecandy updates...
[02:48] <hayden> i've got a problem with firefox, when i try to dload something i push save but then the file doesnt download
[02:48] <thoreauputic> membreya: 'tis folly to be wise....
[02:48] <membreya> NormD: hence why I said, holy grail :)
[02:48] <thoreauputic> hayden: bug in hoary firefox
[02:48] <hayden> yea
[02:48] <hayden> no way of fixing it easily?
[02:48] <Seveas> hayden: bug is known, check the bugzilla to see if there are workarounds
[02:49] <hayden> ok
[02:49] <oclv> Hmm, how does one adjust Xorg stuffs in ubunutu ? Does it have a way of resizing/relocating screens ?
[02:49] <hayden> is there a download manager with a gui i can install
[02:49] <Seveas> yes there is
[02:49] <Seveas> but i forgot the name :S
[02:50] <farruinn> firefox downloads work for me...
[02:50] <thoreauputic> hayden: yes, e.g. downloader for X
[02:50] <ohgood> i'll assume it's a gnome-tool of some type
[02:50] <Gaaruto> d4x
[02:50] <Gaaruto> no ?
[02:50] <thoreauputic> hayden: don't know the package name
[02:50] <prego> hayden, d4x would do. gwget2 probably also
[02:50] <prego> thoreauputic, is d4x, as Gaaruto says
[02:50] <Seveas> hayden: try prozilla
[02:50] <hayden> hmm ok
[02:51] <thoreauputic> prego: yup, thanks
[02:51] <Seveas> it's not gui though...
[02:51] <prego> Seveas, with no gui, wget is quite fine
[02:52] <Seveas> wget rocks :)
[02:52] <Myrtti> wget kicks ass
[02:52] <ohgood> no clues to screen adjustment with hoary ?
[02:52] <flawd-afk> is quakeforge available for ubuntu?
[02:52] <Seveas> ohgood: sure, system -> preferences -> screen resolution (oslt)
[02:52] <membreya> had another lockup :|
[02:52] <Gaaruto> wget power *
[02:53] <Seveas> flawd-afk: i do not see it in synaptic...
[02:53] <ohgood> Seveas: i'm looking for a way to resize and reposition..
[02:53] <thoreauputic> what about curl ?
[02:53] <Seveas> ah ok
[02:53] <farruinn> thoreauputic: I use curl
[02:53] <flawd-afk> Seveas, me neither
[02:53] <Seveas> ohgood: edit your X config manually
[02:53] <membreya> isn't that a winter olympic sport thoreauputic ?
[02:53] <membreya> oh wait, that's curling
[02:53] <flawd-afk> Im so frustrated with cedega right now
[02:53] <ohgood> Seveas: t adjust position ? :|
[02:53] <flawd-afk> it worked fine on mandrake
[02:54] <flawd-afk> on ubuntu it wont find the second cd
[02:54] <thoreauputic> membreya: yeah, with penguins shoving rocks along the ice ;)
[02:54] <Seveas> flawd-afk: run alien on the mandrake tgz and see if that works
[02:54] <membreya> crack-attack time!
[02:54] <Seveas> lol
[02:54] <flawd-afk> oh
[02:54] <flawd-afk> ill try that thanks
[02:55] <jeetsen> Hi folks!
[02:55] <hayden> how do i dload a file with curl
[02:55] <farruinn> hayden: curl url -o file
[02:56] <hayden> thanks
[02:56] <farruinn> iirc, it's been a while
[02:56] <shmoolik> for some resone i can't print with Evince
[02:56] <Seveas> wget url
[02:56] <shmoolik> how can i check y .. ?
[02:58] <Seveas> hmm
[02:58] <ohgood> BAH! xvidtune to the rescue
[02:58] <Seveas> kacpid locks up my system
[02:59] <prego> Seveas, sometimes, wget --passive url
[03:00] <hayden> im trying to dload a file, but the address for it isnt straight forward it is ->http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/files.php?func=gd_downloadfile&gd_filename=starterbar-desklet-0.31.2.tar.bz2&gd_fileid=577
[03:00] <hayden> would that url work with wget?
[03:01] <prego> hayden, probably not, not sure though
[03:01] <ohgood> that's the index.html matey
[03:01] <scandium> hayden, if it doesn't work because of ? etc. use " " around the whole url
[03:01] <Tomcat_> wget is good for most things...
[03:01] <Tomcat_> Yeah scandium... the shell might take some stuff.
[03:01] <prego> hayden, you might use epiphany, also
[03:01] <hayden> o
[03:01] <hayden> k
[03:02] <esher> how to update to preview if i use 5.04 develop ?
[03:02] <farruinn> maybe the firefox bug is x86 specific because I can certainly download on ppc...
[03:02] <hayden> ok
[03:02] <farruinn> esher: you are using the preview release =)
[03:02] <M_Fatih> hi al.. i'm a gentoo user, i want to use ubuntu. i have questions, how can i contorl & add/remove my initscripts, how can i change runlevels this scripts..
[03:02] <ohgood> hayden: works fine here, cp directly to your address bar in FF
[03:02] <esher> a ok, nice :)
[03:02] <prego> hayden, besides, it has worked for me with wget; wget "url you pasted"
[03:02] <hayden> yep me too
[03:02] <Lin> Hi all!
[03:03] <Lin> Which package I have install  to allow Rhythmbox play mp3 files?
[03:03] <farruinn> M_Fatih: ubuntu doesn't really do the runlevel thing. IIRC runlevels 2-6 or something are identical
[03:03] <farruinn> Lin: gstreamer0.8-mad from universe
[03:04] <membreya> tired of crack-attack now :)
[03:04] <farruinn> M_Fatih: I'll admit though, I know virtually nothing about runlevels
[03:04] <farruinn> probably because I've always used some form of Debian ;)
[03:04] <M_Fatih> what do i do? use a gtk based runlevel tool?
[03:04] <WZot> Lin: You should check this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs :)
[03:05] <keffo> Lin, use xmms instead.. thats my opinion
[03:05] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: what do you want to do? debian runlevels are different
[03:05] <Lin> Second: I found a bug in S.O discovery in installation, my windows was found 2 times, giving a warning when trying to install lilo (normal users will be scared) . Grub didn't works very well anyway, it didn't erase my previos lilo version giving LI 9999999 error.
[03:05] <Lin> WZot,  thank you, I will read.
[03:05] <farruinn> Lin, keffo: beep-media-player is a nice gtk2 player based on xmms , you might like it
[03:05] <Gaaruto> keffo, i prefere amarok (but it need kdelib...)
[03:05] <keffo> ohgood, ill check
[03:06] <M_Fatih> thoreauputic, how? can you post a link for debian's runlevel management?
[03:06] <Lin> keffo, I'm just testing a plain user installation. Trying do deploy ubuntu in some companies.
[03:06] <keffo> okok
[03:06] <Lin> fabbione, there is in repositories?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: just say what you are trying to do - runlevels may not be the answer at all
[03:06] <farruinn> Lin: you have to have universe enabled, check out the ubuntuguide.org
[03:06] <ikaro> hellas
[03:06] <Lin> fabbione, ok.. universe is on..
[03:07] <Lin> sorry.. farruinn  :-D
[03:07] <fabbione> Lin ?
[03:07] <fabbione> ah ok
[03:07] <fabbione> ehe
[03:07] <M_Fatih> hmm. i want to add a initscript to runlevel 5
[03:07] <M_Fatih> how can i do it? or disable
[03:07] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: manipulation of runlevels is hardly ever needed in debian
[03:07] <Lin> add should be done with update-rc.d program
[03:07] <WZot> Lin: ubuntuguide.org has a lot of information on what you need to get your system to be a multimedia computer :) Also tells you how to get stuff like Java etc working.
[03:07] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: read about update-rc,d
[03:08] <M_Fatih> hah. i want to this... :)
[03:08] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: scripts are in /etc/init.d
[03:08] <Lin> M_Fatih, then.. do it! :-D
[03:08] <M_Fatih> i know
[03:08] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: update-rc,d is easy to use
[03:08] <Lin> Someone know about those errors above?
[03:09] <M_Fatih> ok. i need this.. in gentoo i do it with rc-update..
[03:09] <Lin> (I'm using hoary testing installation)
[03:09] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: similar, probably (I don't know gentoo)
[03:10] <Lin> There is another problem. After dpkg-reconfigure locales, and add my locales, when gnome started it says pt_BR locales didn't exist, rolling back to defaults POSIX/C.
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Lin, you have your languge pack installed?
[03:11] <Lin> thoreauputic, only en-us..
[03:11] <thoreauputic> *language
[03:11] <Lin> thoreauputic, this is a new ubuntu package isn't it?
[03:11] <thoreauputic> Lin, well, how will pt_BR show up if it isn't installed ?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> Lin, in hoary I believe, yes
[03:12] <mdke> does anyone know of an easy document which will help me set up procmail for use with evolution?
[03:12] <Lin> there is no language to pt_br
[03:12] <mdke> i don't know the first thing about email
[03:12] <farruinn> mdke: why do you need to use procmail with evolution?
[03:12] <Lin> there is only pt.. hmmm
[03:12] <Lin> I will try
[03:13] <mdke> farruinn, i am considering the possibility of subscribing to the wiki and there are a lot of emails coming in
[03:13] <scizzo> mdke: if you use evolution you can do filters in the application
[03:13] <mdke> scizzo, yeah i do that currently
[03:13] <mdke> scizzo, someone gave me a script for making stats out of the wiki subscription emails, and he said that I should use procmail
[03:13] <Lin> Another think, hoady didn't intall nvidia-glx drivers, but my video card is a nvidia driver, is this right?
[03:14] <scizzo> Lin: nvidia drivers are non-free
[03:14] <scizzo> Lin: you need to install from universe... or something simular
[03:14] <Lin> scizzo, ok, same policy as debian?
[03:14] <scizzo> Lin: the Wiki has most answers....
[03:15] <Lin> scizzo, I will stop to ask and read right now. Thank you for all help!
[03:15] <thoreauputic> Lin,  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:15] <scizzo> Lin: might be good to check the wiki out anyway
[03:15] <scizzo> :)
[03:15] <Lin> thoreauputic, It's already running, I just want to know why this is isn't installed by default! :-D
[03:16] <mdke> scizzo, do you have any suggestions for me, as I said I don't understand much about email
[03:16] <memcmeme> These Nvidia drivers are outsanding
[03:16] <memcmeme> I am getting a better framerate in UT2k4 on the same hardware
[03:16] <Lin> memcmeme,  UT2k4 runs better in linux..
[03:16] <memcmeme> wierd
[03:17] <thoreauputic> memcmeme: why weird?
[03:17] <Lin> away
[03:17] <memcmeme> you would think with Direct 3d XP would have an advante but it doesn't
[03:17] <shmoolik> DAMN I love my UbuntuLinux http://img91.exs.cx/img91/4566/screenshot1cd.jpg
[03:17] <shmoolik> all though i can't print ps with it :)
[03:18] <scizzo> mdke: read others that has setup procmail...the problem you have is that you might need to setup smtp, fetchmail and procmail
[03:18] <Lin> Ubuntu team made changes in synaptic? Cause it is amazing!
[03:18] <M_Fatih> i love console apps, can you suggest package to install for my ubuntu?.. (ubuntu spesific tools)
[03:18] <mdke> scizzo, :( sounds difficult
[03:18] <scizzo> mdke: _but_ maybe evolution can filter all mails through procmail
[03:18] <Lin> Another tip, put pppoe support in instalattion :-) adsl user will love it.
[03:18] <prego> shmoolik, why can't you print ps with it??
[03:18] <kickrocks> i just got 10 ubuntu install / live cd's in the mail
[03:18] <kickrocks> bill never did that
[03:18] <kickrocks> thanks
[03:18] <scizzo> mdke: what I don't understand is that if you are only using evolution...then why can't you use the system they have for filters?
[03:19] <shmoolik> prego,  i don't know
[03:19] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: mostly similar to debian tools - apt-get, dpkg etc
[03:19] <shmoolik> now i neeed to study i will find out latter
[03:19] <prego> shmoolik, did you try directly from command line? (lpr file.ps) or (lpr -Pprinter_name file.ps) ?
[03:19] <shmoolik> no .... i think i will try now
[03:19] <shmoolik> thanks
[03:20] <mdke> scizzo, perhaps the problem is my lack of understanding how these systems work
[03:20] <scizzo> mdke: what exactly do you want to do?
[03:20] <electricwheels> Good Morning all
[03:20] <scizzo> mdke: maybe that would help a lot...
[03:20] <thoreauputic> shmoolik: awww! cute kitten! :D
[03:20] <shmoolik> thanks
[03:20] <mdke> scizzo, ok
[03:20] <dwa_> good morning electricwheels
[03:21] <dwa_> although it's 3pm here
[03:21] <dwa_> :)
[03:21] <membreya> thoreauputic: .. i have bad news for you buddy
[03:21] <shmoolik> bash: plr: command not found
[03:21] <shmoolik> prego,  look up
[03:21] <smckay> Anyone have info on running a Microtek scanner under Ubuntu?  Ive seen mention of a microtek kernel driver, but haven't found it.
[03:21] <mdke> scizzo, i access my email in a webinterface when at school, and with evolution at home, and I don't leave them on the remote server. I want to subscribe to the wiki, but I know that I will get hundreds of emails at a time, and really the only thing that interests me is to use the scripts that I have been given which can make stats out of the emails which arrive
[03:22] <prego> shmoolik, lpr
[03:22] <shmoolik> damn it works
[03:22] <Myrtti> subscribe to wiki?
[03:22] <membreya> thoreauputic: that kitten is from winxp :P
[03:22] <electricwheels> I have a problem and I was wondering if anyone can help me?  I have installed Ubuntu with windows xp  and I can't get the bootloader to start windows.  It starts ubuntu no problem but with windows I get and error unknown operating system.
[03:22] <shmoolik> yeah my bad :))
[03:22] <thoreauputic> membreya: oh?
[03:22] <shmoolik> damn man thanks!!!!!!
[03:22] <prego> shmoolik, :-))
[03:22] <mastertet> When I plug my usbdisk, I get 2 popup windows (usbdisk and usbdisk-1). Only usbdisk-1 contains data. How can I solve this issue?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> membreya: haha - I don't care - it's still cute :)
[03:22] <ohgood> electricwheels: your grub.conf is pointing to the wrong place. or other things
[03:22] <dwa_> is windows xp in your grub menu.lst electricwheels ?
[03:22] <M_Fatih> thanks all, i like ubuntu, i change my linux distro.. :) gentoo to ubuntu..
[03:23] <mdke> M_Fatih, :)
[03:23] <scizzo> mdke: ???????
[03:23] <scizzo> mdke: stats out of e-mail?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> M_Fatih: welcome :)
[03:23] <mdke> yes
[03:23] <mastertet> M_Fatih, me too, gentoo to ubuntu :)
[03:23] <ohgood> anyone have a HOWTO for freevo installation ?
[03:23] <M_Fatih> :)
[03:23] <scizzo> mdke: what stats?
[03:23] <flawd-afk> trying to compile quakeforge. says /lib/cpp fails sanity check
[03:23] <electricwheels> when ubuntu installed itself is found windows and setup the loader and I haven't changed anything.
[03:23] <mdke> scizzo, the wiki subscriptions tell you who is doing what to which pages, and it makes stats out of that
[03:23] <mdke> heh
[03:24] <mdke> and vice versa
[03:24] <ohgood> electricwheels: paste your grub.conf to pastebin
[03:24] <flawd-afk> nevermind
[03:24] <ohgood> menu.lst, whatever
[03:24] <electricwheels> how do I go about that.
[03:24] <scizzo> mdke: okej...look...what you can do is to filter them out into different folders if that is what you are looking for...
[03:24] <ohgood> electricwheels: highlight it, and cp it to pastebin.com
[03:25] <scizzo> mdke: if not...then I don't know what you are talking about and how you are actually thinking about all this
[03:25] <electricwheels> where will i find the grub.conf
[03:25] <mdke> scizzo, ok don't worry
[03:25] <ohgood> electricwheels: in /boot/grub/
[03:25] <scizzo> electricwheels: /boot/grub/
[03:25] <mdke> scizzo, sorry if I wasn't able to be clear
[03:27] <electricwheels> there is no grub.conf in the /boot/grub
[03:27] <ohgood> menu.lst then
[03:27] <NetwrkMonkey> mmm hmmm
[03:27] <thoreauputic> electricwheels: menu.lst
[03:28] <dwa_> who wants some coffee?
[03:28] <electricwheels> that is there
[03:28] <optika> hi all, perhaps someone will be able to help me (again). Just upgraded Warty -> Hoary, and I'm getting the following error dialogue when starting gnome-theme-manager:
[03:28] <optika> "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly."
[03:28] <thoreauputic> dwa_: yes, please :)
[03:28] <membreya> wow....just ran mutt...funky :P
[03:28] <optika> any suggestions? I've tried forcing a reinstall of gnome-themes, capplets, capplets-data and more.
[03:28] <mdke> oh btw, does anyone use pop3 access with gmail? is it working ok?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> membreya: look at the man page under Bugs ;)
[03:29] <membreya> mdke: working fine for me
[03:29] <dwa_> thoreauputic : are you in holland?
[03:29] <mdke> membreya, cool thanks
[03:29] <membreya> lol thoreauputic :P
[03:29] <thoreauputic> dwa_: New Holland - Australia - does that count ? *grin*
[03:29] <electricwheels> can give me the syntax for what it is that you want me to do with menu.lst and pastebin.com
[03:30] <sunboy> Hello
[03:30] <dwa_> hehe.. :)
[03:30] <membreya> mdke: just sent myself a test email to gmail and it worked fine
[03:30] <farruinn> optika: metacity is installed?
[03:30] <ohgood> Anyone know a way to force installation of freevo, and it's deps ?
[03:30] <mastertet> Someone knows how to solve the usbstick bug in hoary?
[03:30] <optika> farruinn: indeed
[03:30] <membreya> using thunderbird to get my 4 email accounts (one is local mail so it doesn't count :P)
[03:30] <optika> farruinn: I've tried reinstalling it too
[03:30] <farruinn> optika: then nuke your ~/.gconf
[03:30] <mdke> membreya, ty
[03:30] <optika> erk, k.
[03:31] <sunboy> I'm using Kubuntu 5.04 LiveCD. At bootup it assigning an IP via DHCP (but this network uses static IPs). I was wondering where I could configure my network settings (IP, gateway, nameserver, etc)
[03:31] <membreya> optika: mv it to a different file name and see if it works
[03:31] <ohgood> optika: so just rename it for a trial
[03:31] <membreya> rather than nuking it :)
[03:31] <optika> russell@zaebos ~ $ mv .gconf dot-gconf
[03:31] <optika>  :) Umm, it does the same thing :(
[03:32] <thoreauputic> optika: you logged out and in, right?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> not in that time...
[03:32] <optika> thoreauputic: I just killall'd gconfd-2
[03:32] <membreya> russell...zaebos...what sort of system / user names are those? :|
[03:32] <Lin> Downloading 262 megs :-/ will lasts 2 hours :-(
[03:32] <amiroff> can someone please advine a program to record what I listen to ?
[03:32] <membreya> Lin: 262..2 hours..ouch :(
[03:32] <Lin> gnome-sound-record
[03:32] <dwa_> lin: about 10 mins. here :)
[03:32] <thoreauputic> optika: OK :)
[03:33] <Lin> dwa_, can I borrow your net bandwith? ;-)
[03:33] <ohgood> amiroff: do you mean streaming media ?
[03:33] <optika> membreya: zaebos is a prince of hell, so named because my machine ended up getting the same IP address as a machine that used to be called lucifer (my machine naming scheme is "starts with z")
[03:33] <optika> membreya: and russell is my name ;)
[03:33] <dwa_> sure Lin , just come here, bring your laptop
[03:33] <thoreauputic> heh - 262MB would take me nearly a day !
[03:33] <dwa_> and i'll give you a cup of coffee
[03:33] <Lin> dwa_, sure! where you live?
[03:33] <dwa_> the netherlands
[03:33] <DexterF> hi
[03:34] <electricwheels> I'm sorry I have to take off right now.. I'll be back a little later bye for now and thank you for trying to help me.
[03:34] <Lin> dwa_, Wow! Coffe! I will go right now!
[03:34] <membreya> machine...naming scheme :| when I had my p4 laptop .. i just called it diab-laptop ...guess I'm unimaginative
[03:34] <dwa_> were do you live Lin ?
[03:34] <DexterF> I consider switching distros, and tho I had debian in mind there's a bunch of nonos with debian.
[03:34] <Lin> dwa_, near of you.. Brazil
[03:34] <dwa_> lol
[03:35] <dwa_> we'll come to brazil then :)
[03:35] <membreya> just across antarctica :)
[03:35] <amiroff> ohgood: yes, I'd like to record radios, while listening to them
[03:35] <garrut> dwa_ can i come too?
[03:35] <dwa_> sure garrut
[03:35] <garrut> sweet
[03:35] <ohgood> amiroff: streamripper
[03:35] <dwa_> where do you live?
[03:35] <DexterF> so - is ubuntu just debian with some extra tools, can I just install debian packages on it, does it have the same dep tracking? or is it different altogether?
[03:35] <Lin> dwa_, Coming to brazil, please contact me!
[03:35] <garrut> i'm sitting next to you
[03:35] <Lin> dwa_, I live in Rio de Janeiro
[03:35] <dwa_> cooool
[03:35] <thoreauputic> amiroff: streamripper
[03:35] <dwa_> ok garrut
[03:35] <dwa_> let's get some coffee
[03:35] <thoreauputic> ohgood: oops sorry ;)
[03:35] <garrut> good idea
[03:35] <Lin> dwa_, are you coming to brazil?
[03:36] <ohgood> thoreauputic: np (:
[03:36] <Lin> dwa_, really?
[03:36] <amiroff> thoreauputic: already tried that, does not play simultaneously
[03:36] <dwa_> maybe some other day :)
[03:36] <dwa_> no Lin, the bank won't let me
[03:36] <Lin> dwa_, ok! :-D
[03:36] <farruinn> optika: oh, make sure you have gtk2-engines-clealooks installed maybe
[03:36] <thoreauputic> amiroff: it does - with streamtuner
[03:36] <farruinn> optika: did you do a dist-upgrade?
[03:36] <thoreauputic> amiroff: you can start it from streamtuner
[03:36] <ohgood> amiroff: bandwidth is a crippling thing, for streaming media and ripping
[03:36] <Lin> dwa_, here is hot! Very hot.. o my god.. I will die.. It's too hot. I can't live out of servers room! ;-D
[03:37] <dwa_> hehe Lin
[03:37] <dwa_> it's pretty cold out here
[03:37] <amiroff> thoreauputic: now getting streamtuner :)
[03:37] <thoreauputic> amiroff: streamtuner is nice for shoutcast especially
[03:38] <amiroff> ohgood: under windows, I just play winamp and record from What You Hear specified as input with Creative sound recorder
[03:38] <Lin> back to the work! :-D dwa_ I can just imagine.. But I prefer cold than hot.
[03:38] <thoreauputic> amiroff: it has an index to the yellow pages
[03:38] <ohgood> amiroff: sorry, don't remember many wincrap-apps. streamripper will do what you desire though.
[03:38] <dwa_> Lin me 2 :)
[03:38] <thoreauputic> ohgood: streamripper is a nice app
[03:38] <nmoore> will there be any ill effects if I remove some services from runlevels that are not used?
[03:39] <amiroff> ohgood: I hope so :) thanks
[03:39] <amiroff> thoreauputic: getting excited already
[03:39] <nmoore> what i mean is services that i don't use from runlevels
[03:39] <ohgood> aye thoreauputic, the tuner was an epiphany point for me too
[03:40] <optika> farruinn: yes, I did a dist-upgrade, but the CD I did it from was very broken :( so things are quite inconsistent :(
[03:40] <optika> farruinn: seems clearlooks is installed
[03:41] <farruinn> what about ubuntu-desktop?
[03:42] <optika> it's installed and at latest version
[03:42] <goxy> anybody help me make intel 536ep
[03:43] <memcmeme> Hey guys, whats a good Linux P2P client that is Apt- get able?
[03:43] <munki> what app. can I unrar rar (3.0 ver) files with ?
[03:43] <munki> unrar can't !
[03:43] <ohgood> munki: rar e filename.rar
[03:43] <membreya> memcmeme: sudo apt-get install amule
[03:43] <thoreauputic> munki: try unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[03:44] <farruinn> optika: have you installed any themes manually?
[03:44] <hayden> how can i make keyboard shortcut to windows+d that shows the desktop?
[03:44] <memcmeme> what category will that apear under in the menu?
[03:45] <robodex> hello
[03:45] <dwa_> garrut
[03:47] <kotatsu> hayden: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:47] <kounavi_le_kok> hello, i have recently installed ubuntu hoary on  my powerbook G4 (15",1G, alu), and though everything seems to work just fine, the sound is rather distorted and at a very low volume. Have you got any ideas about how to solve that or where to ask?
[03:47] <kotatsu> hayden: by default ctrl + alt + d shows the desktop
[03:48] <hayden> ok thanks, ill just use that
[03:49] <kbitty> where is some great themes for ubuntu suse?
[03:49] <amiroff> thoreauputic: I just tried streamtuner but it uses xmms for playing, thus double bandwidth when recording :(
[03:49] <kbitty> like there is for suse and other distrobutions
[03:49] <hayden> kbitty: check www.gnome-look.org or www.kde-look.org
[03:49] <NetwrkMonkey> knibbutz
[03:50] <HavoK> hi there
[03:50] <thoreauputic> amiroff: how much quality do you need? I'm on dialup and I rip and listen, but on lower quality streams
[03:50] <flawd-afk> anyone that uses cedega?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> amiroff: I guess it depends how picky you are about sound
[03:51] <amiroff> thoreauputic: well, at least 96 kbs, it works great if I close xmms, but with  xmms also playing, no way, I have adsl 256k
[03:52] <thoreauputic> amiroff: yes, I guess abot 64k would be the limit for you
[03:52] <thoreauputic> *about
[03:52] <amiroff> thoreauputic: well, at least I've found a great app, it records directly to mp3 which I like very much
[03:53] <thoreauputic> amiroff: it also labels the mp3s , which is nice
[03:53] <amiroff> thoreauputic: thanks for your advice :) I really apreciate it
[03:53] <thoreauputic> amiroff: no worries :)
[03:53] <prego> cedega?
[03:54] <optika> farruinn: I've installed some manually, yes
[03:54] <thoreauputic> amiroff: BTW I found even whenthe playback goes, the ripping still seems to work OK
[03:55] <amiroff> thoreauputic: doesn't it depend on the bandwidth?
[03:55] <optika> farruinn: argh, I managed to nuke my old .gconf after all :-/
[03:55] <thoreauputic> amiroff: I assume the ripping takes precedence, in other words
[03:55] <farruinn> aplsin: it's possible those are causing problems...
[03:55] <farruinn> aplsin: sorry :(
[03:55] <farruinn> oop optika ^^^
[03:55] <thoreauputic> amiroff: I got worried when it started to rebuffer on xmms, but the ripped track sounded fine
[03:55] <optika> hrm, which is evolution's nice new imap code? "IMAP" or "IMAP4rev1" ?
[03:56] <amiroff> thoreauputic: hey , I cannot believe it, it even records to different song  files! WOW!!!!!!
[03:56] <DarkGable> are the howto doc on the website up to date... i've just install ubuntu... and i dont wanna have to do it again, because of out-dated doc  ??
[03:56] <robodex> is it normal to have 15-20 updates to hoary a day?
[03:56] <hayden> robodex, yea about that
[03:56] <amiroff> thoreauputic: I was so fed up cutting the 1 hour sets by hand on windows!!! this one really rules!
[03:56] <kotatsu> optika: rev1
[03:56] <robodex> rofl just making sure
[03:56] <optika> kotatsu: ta
[03:56] <robodex> I've got 32 updates today, after installing 200 yesterday...
[03:57] <hayden> robodex, i installed hoary from the preview release iso, and i had to dload 175MB of updates
[03:57] <hayden> yea
[03:57] <kotatsu> robodex: I have 129 updates and 5 new packages I'm installing atm =) it's been like this throughout hoary
[03:57] <robodex> just making sure
[03:57] <kotatsu> surprisingly, my machine breaks less now than when I was using Debian sid
[03:57] <robodex> I'm just glad hoary has an update manager now
[03:58] <robodex> hmm. now for a really good question. is evolution better than thunderbird as an email client?
[03:58] <amiroff> thoreauputic: I owe you some beer on a vacation to Istanbul man!
[03:58] <kalis> Hmm! I cant add my CD repo again. "Another synaptic is running
[03:58] <kalis> There is another synaptic running in interactive mode. Please close it first. "
[03:58] <kotatsu> robodex: better in what way? it's a personal preference
[03:58] <kalis> and i have no other synaptic process running.
[03:58] <kotatsu> robodex: I prefer evo, I know people who prefer thunderbird
 thoreauputic: I owe you some beer on a vacation to Istanbul man!
[03:59] <kotatsu> robodex: I even ran balsa for a while... between thunderbird and balsa I'd use balsa, but I like evo more than either
[03:59] <robodex> well I've never used evo so I uninstalled it, but I've used thunderbird on windoze since it was 0.1
[03:59] <kotatsu> robodex: evo is a PIM, thunderbird is just a mail reader
[03:59] <robodex> one thing I've found that's bad on thunderbird is the fact that if you get a LOT of spam it gets confused and filters stuff that isn't spam
[03:59] <gfxstyler> hi there
[03:59] <robodex> but skips stuff that is
[03:59] <gfxstyler> can i install kde without any ... troubles ?
[03:59] <kotatsu> robodex: you have to train the filter - make sure you mark stuff as "not spam"
[04:00] <Gaaruto> hi gfxstyler
[04:00] <Gaaruto> sure
[04:00] <Gaaruto> you can
[04:00] <gfxstyler> thanks :)
[04:00] <niciqy> does Ubuntu comes with gcc?
[04:00] <kotatsu> robodex I don't get much spam but I know one person who uses both evo and thunderbird and *much* prefers thunderbird's spam filter
[04:00] <gfxstyler> would be bad if i trash my ubuntu one day before holidays
[04:00] <kotatsu> niciqy: if you install it
[04:00] <farruinn> niciqy: of course :) sudo apt-get install build-essential will get  you going
[04:00] <niciqy> ok
[04:01] <dabi> hmm i overclocked my cpu from 2800 to 3000 mhz and added more voltage and my ubuntu stop working... i restored it and now works fine.. w.t.h? i have goot cooler on it and should be fine..
[04:01] <goxy> anybody help me make work intel 536ep
[04:01] <robodex> kotatsu: I get well over 400 spams a day, so even with marking stuff as not spam I still get alot of stuff I shouldn't be getting
[04:01] <kotatsu> dabi: that's overclocking for you
[04:01] <thoreauputic_> amiroff: sorry, cut off by ISP
[04:02] <amiroff> thoreauputic: np :)
[04:02] <niciqy> woohoo install now!!
[04:02] <amiroff> flawd: thanks :)
[04:02] <dabi> kotatsu: ? well.. "overclocking" i only changed the bios settings..
[04:02] <kotatsu> dabi: and?
[04:02] <kotatsu> dabi: the whole point of running cpus at their recommended speed is stability
[04:02] <thoreauputic> amiroff: did you try a 64k stream?
[04:02] <HavoK> i'm trying to use amarok with mysql, so i'm creating a database for it. But I can't log on because I don't know the password,, any idea/suggestion?
[04:02] <gfxstyler> and can i remove all gnome apps from ubuntu and swap them with kde apps ?
[04:03] <kotatsu> dabi: if you can squeeze a few extra MHz out great, but it's not unexpected that it makes your system unstable
[04:03] <Lin> gfxstyler, ubuntu is build over gnome. You can install kde and run it anyway
[04:03] <farruinn> gfxstyler: sounds like you could have used the kubuntu preview cd that just came out
[04:04] <Lin> I really prefer Gnome interface
[04:04] <Lin> Kde has good applications, but the worse interface.
[04:04] <gfxstyler> farruinn: yes i was somehow stupid :D
[04:05] <farruinn> gfxstyler: not that, the timing was just bad :)
[04:05] <niciqy> is there a way to set my $PATH to the java folder instead of exporting PATH everytime i open a new terminal?? I tried adding the PATH into .bash_profile but it doesnt work!!
[04:05] <gfxstyler> farruinn: i guess i keep gnome and kde both
[04:05] <kotatsu> niciqy: did you install java using java-package?
[04:05] <niciqy> kotatsu
[04:05] <niciqy> kotatsu: yes
[04:06] <robodex> arg... how can I import the gpg keys for the debian unstable rep?
[04:06] <amiroff> thoreauputic: I am currently recording 128k stream without a hitch
[04:06] <amiroff> thoreauputic: and later adding all completed songs to my playlist, that is all I wanted
[04:06] <kotatsu> niciqy: it should just work - typing "java" at a prompt doesn't run it?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> amiroff: cool
[04:07] <kotatsu> niciqy: or are you talking about an additional folder you want in your classpath?
[04:07] <niciqy> kotatsu: no, i need to set the PATH to the folder i installed it to
[04:07] <alex__> how can i compile a kernel just like ubuntus standard kernel. the only change i have to do it patching the kernel with one patch. i need the same modules
[04:07] <kotatsu> $ type java
[04:07] <kotatsu> java is /usr/bin/java
[04:08] <gfxstyler> should i install the ubuntu kde or install the official kde from their website ?
[04:08] <amiroff> thoreauputic: I thought it would record as one file and I would get the songs I don't want, that's why I wanted to be able to listen at the same time
[04:08] <kotatsu> niciqy: unless you did something odd to your alternatives you should have a java symlink sitting in /usr/bin
[04:08] <kbitty> how do i make python daemon mode/
[04:08] <kbitty> ?
[04:08] <niciqy> kotatsu: its not in /usr/bin
[04:08] <kotatsu> hmmm
[04:09] <amiroff> thoreauputic: but since it rips records to many songs, no problem :))
[04:09] <brrrt> hello, i need help for downloading ubuntu with bittorrent on a debian woody machine (in the shell)
[04:09] <thoreauputic> amiroff: ah I see - but it's smart and finds the files and labels them!
[04:09] <kotatsu> dpkg -l | grep sun - that reports that the j2sdk is installed?
[04:09] <niciqy> kotatsu: how do I add the folder into my classpath then?
[04:09] <thoreauputic> amiroff: all done by the cli streamripper - nice, isn't it?
[04:10] <kotatsu> -cp
[04:10] <kotatsu> or set $CLASSPATH
[04:11] <kotatsu> note that if you add it to ~/.bash_profile that's only for login shells... add it to ~/.bashrc if you want it everywhere (.bashrc is sourced by .bash_profile by default)
[04:11] <gfxstyler> see you later
[04:11] <niciqy> kotatsu: I will try
[04:11] <amiroff> thoreauputic: well, I must say, this is one of my killer linux apps now !
[04:12] <thoreauputic> amiroff: yes, mine too :)
[04:15] <niciqy> kotatsu: yes, its workING!!!!!
[04:16] <kotatsu> niciqy: cool
[04:16] <electricwheels> Good morning again.
[04:16] <ohgood> hmm, had to upgrade first, but now apparently nvidia-patch works fine.. wonder if that was the only problem.
[04:18] <electricwheels> I'm back to see what I can get accomplished with my grub problem I still can't get grub to load my windows xp and when I had to leave I was being told to cp /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin.com can we please continue from there.
[04:18] <ohgood> electricwheels: did you past it somewhere ?
[04:18] <electricwheels> no I haven't done that
[04:18] <suifur> any of you guys have any experience in setting up a WG511 Netgear wireless card (prism54 chipset)? I've never set up wireless on linux in my life, and I'm terrible w/ it in Windows. I'm doing it in Ubuntu and the card was detected but I can't seem to get it to assign itself its own dhcp and when I set it static i still get nothing as far as a connection. I've taken off WEP/WPA for now to see if I can even just get the laptop to connect but still no
[04:18] <suifur> thing.
[04:19] <ohgood> electricwheels: paste it to pastebin, then we can help
[04:19] <bretzel> Hi there :-) -- mmm reading here about nvidia but I logged late, is there a fix for that kernel in the ubuntu preview ?
[04:19] <electricwheels> so I go to a terminal and do the command cp menu.lst pastebin.com ?
[04:19] <membreya> suifur: set your SSID?
[04:19] <ohgood> electricwheels: no.
[04:20] <suifur> membreya: yup, the network has been working with another laptop already and now I want to add this one
[04:20] <dirk_> arhg what a bad distro
[04:20] <ohgood> electricwheels: cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/                 then open it with a text editor, and cp the contents to pastebin
[04:20] <suifur> dirk_: we don't need any trolls here
[04:20] <dwa_> why dirk_ ?
[04:20] <yongjian> ok, has anybody have problem on they display resolution after upgrade from yesterday? Mine was on 1600x1200 and now, it can only up to 1280x1024. This is really pissing me off
[04:20] <yongjian> Please help
[04:20] <dirk_> no I know, but  loggin in is know a trouble
[04:21] <dirk_> know = now
[04:21] <kotatsu> yongjian: using hoary or warty?
[04:21] <yongjian> hoary
[04:21] <dirk_> pfff hoary i think
[04:21] <nmoore> yongjian: there's a tool in gnome for resolution, or you might need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:21] <thoreauputic> dirk_:  cat /etc/issue
[04:21] <yongjian> I did
[04:21] <kotatsu> yongjian: can you provide a link to your Xorg log and config file?
[04:21] <yongjian> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" Development Branch \n \l
[04:22] <dirk_> ? thoreauputic
[04:22] <yongjian> ya, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20425
[04:22] <membreya> dirk_: /cat /proc/version :P
[04:22] <thoreauputic> dirk_: that command will say whether you have warty or hoary
[04:22] <yongjian> I posted on ubuntu forum but nobody seems to know anything
[04:23] <dirk_> inux version 2.6.10-4-386 (buildd@mcmurdo) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8 ubuntu2)) #1 Thu Mar 10 03:25:00 GMT 2005
[04:23] <yongjian> Linux version 2.6.10-4-386 (buildd@mcmurdo) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Sat Mar 12 11:09:25 GMT 2005
[04:23] <garrut> is 1600x1200 in your x.org yongjian?
[04:23] <thoreauputic> membreya: who's the sadist now?
[04:23] <yongjian> yes
[04:23] <membreya> :)
[04:23] <yongjian> YES
[04:23] <dirk_> the only thing i like is x.orhg
[04:24] <thoreauputic> dirk_: well, then install linspire
[04:24] <ohgood> lol
[04:24] <kotatsu> yongjian: the xorg.conf file you posted to that thread only goes up to 1280x1024
[04:24] <dirk_> nope, too much resources
[04:24] <yongjian> haha...well I like ubuntu so I will try to fix it
[04:24] <ohgood> wb electricwheels
[04:24] <dwa_> what is it you don't like then dirk_ ?
[04:24] <M_Fatih> 1600x1200.. huh.. :)
[04:24] <thoreauputic> dirk_: we're getting the impression you're low on resources, indeed
[04:25] <yongjian> you should see that virtual size 1600x1200
[04:25] <ohgood> thoreauputic: lol - again :)
[04:25] <electricwheels> thnks
[04:25] <dirk_> not impressed of loggin in as root, when you're a user
[04:25] <ohgood> electricwheels: got it pasted somewhere ?
[04:25] <kotatsu> dirk_: whatcha mean? sudo?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> dirk_: you should *never* login as root  - you should use sudo or sudo -s
[04:26] <ohgood> dirk_: i thought it was odd there was no root passwd setup during install, it's not hard to fix though ;)
[04:26] <dirk_> yeah or loggin in Konsole as root
[04:26] <Jesterace> has anyone built e17 on ubuntu?
[04:26] <dirk_> loggin in as root is stupid
[04:26] <thoreauputic> dirk_: really done your homework, haven't you?
[04:26] <dirk_> not with ubuntu
[04:26] <dwa_> Jesterace i did
[04:27] <dwa_> i used .debs
[04:27] <Jesterace> ahh
[04:27] <thoreauputic> dirk_: obviously read the FAQ and all the install screens...
[04:27] <dirk_> that's the reason i going back to sid
[04:27] <ohgood> dirk_: what's wrong with logging in as root?
[04:27] <suifur> membreya: http://pastebin.ca/7700  <--- there's what that section of my /etc/network/interfaces looks like
[04:27] <yongjian>                Modes           "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[04:27] <electricwheels> I have it save in file in my home folder
[04:27] <yongjian> This setting is in the xorg.conf file
[04:27] <kotatsu> yongjian: that's different from your xorg file from the thread you linked
[04:27] <ohgood> electricwheels: ok, open it with an editor, or your filer, and paste the contents to pastbin.com
[04:27] <yongjian> that is the Xorg.0.log file
[04:28] <membreya> suifur: any particular reason you have the channel #'d out?
[04:28] <suifur> membreya: no not really
[04:28] <membreya> thoreauputic: but thats the basis of all religion :P
[04:28] <membreya> suifur: uncomment it and make sure it's set to the correct channel
[04:28] <thoreauputic> membreya: not mine :)
[04:28] <dirk_> the prob is that it not handles like debian
[04:28] <suifur> membreya: ok, it's done, gonna try and start it
[04:29] <membreya> worshiping yourself does not count as a religion thoreauputic
[04:29] <kotatsu> dirk_: so? just because it's different doesn't mean it's bad
[04:29] <thoreauputic> dirk_: then install debian, idiot
[04:29] <kotatsu> dirk_: enable root if you need it (took me 2 seconds)
[04:29] <SandBender> has anyone had crash issues when using hoary with the linuxant drivers?
[04:29] <dirk_> for you maybe
[04:29] <ohgood> electricwheels: maybe you're having trouble, here's a sample of mine: http://www.pastebin.com/259697   notice the examples of wincrap boot titles
[04:29] <Jesterace> man i love bluecurve
[04:29] <kotatsu> dirk_: ubuntu is debian, just configured for normal people to use out of the box
[04:29] <SandBender> driverwrapper rather
[04:29] <kotatsu> dirk_: you can always change settings later
[04:30] <Jesterace> hehe my ubuntu almost looks like fedora heh
[04:30] <electricwheels> thanks
[04:30] <membreya> want a real headache dirk_ ...try gentoo
[04:30] <ohgood> Jesterace: lol, the kernel, or what ? hmm
[04:30] <deFrysk> Jesterace, geez
[04:30] <suifur> membreya: still nothing
[04:30] <Jesterace> ohgood, naw i have the bluecurve metacity theme :P
[04:30] <membreya> heathen Jesterace
[04:30] <deFrysk> Jesterace,  now make it boot as slow as fedora
[04:30] <domtar> lol
[04:30] <membreya> suifur: how are you bringing the interface up and down ?
[04:30] <kotatsu> dirk_: so what are you trying to change, exactly? just want to have the root account active? or login to gnome as root? what?
[04:30] <thoreauputic> membreya: your comment on my religion - umm - I will take as light hearted...
[04:30] <ohgood> Jesterace: gui sstuffs don't count, i can make my gentoo 'look like' wincrap Longhorn if i wish ;)
[04:31] <membreya> thoreauputic: it was very much light hearted and I intended no offence :)
[04:31] <suifur> well i was using the network-admin tool, and I have also been trying ifup eth0 and ifdown eth0
[04:31] <conner> yongjian: are those modes listed in the "Depth" section that corresponds to the depth you're using?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> membreya: OK no worries :)
[04:31] <ohgood> electricwheels: that help any ?
[04:32] <vaijr2002> hi ho everyone
[04:32] <vaijr2002> quick question
[04:32] <ohgood> slow answer ;)
[04:32] <Jesterace> hehe and i could make xp look like gnome if i wanted to :P
[04:32] <thoreauputic> ohgood: haha
[04:32] <fr500> hello, i'm doing a script to restore something from the previous day, how do i get yesterday's date?
[04:32] <vaijr2002> to mount a partition....i make the directory, and then mount it, then edit fstab to make sure its there?
[04:32] <ohgood> Jesterace: but that's no fun, and less productive ;)
[04:32] <electricwheels> I'm not sure as to how I'm supposed to paste my file to pastebin.com that part I'm confused about.
[04:32] <kotatsu> fr500: $ man date
[04:32] <alex__> how can i compile a kernel just like ubuntus standard kernel. the only change i have to do it patching the kernel with one patch. i need the same modules
[04:33] <membreya> suifur: what does dmesg say?
[04:33] <ohgood> vaijr2002: don't go editing fstab while it's mounted, thought we coverd this ;)
[04:33] <Jesterace> whoah
[04:33] <kotatsu> fr500: I'm not sure on the exact syntax you're looking for though... you can format it in a lot of different ways
[04:33] <vaijr2002> ok
[04:33] <Jesterace> just got a crap load of ubuntu discs in the mail
[04:33] <Jesterace> :D
[04:33] <dirk_> is sudo really safe?
[04:33] <Echylo> omg
[04:33] <Echylo> 192 updates
[04:33] <ohgood> electricwheels: don't worry, just look at mine:  http://www.pastebin.com/259697
[04:33] <Echylo> are they getting crazy :p
[04:33] <membreya> been off the net for a while Echylo ? :)
[04:33] <vaijr2002> so make the dir like mkdir /mnt       /windows?
[04:33] <membreya> Echylo: array7 :)
[04:34] <Jesterace> wow
[04:34] <Echylo> ow :)
[04:34] <ohgood> vaijr2002: i like to mount stuffs to /mnt/      so i always know where they are... and they're farther from /
[04:34] <Echylo> yea been off 2 days
[04:34] <Jesterace> i have like 5 official ubuntu x86 discs :P
[04:34] <CarlK_> is the rsync server having trouble?
[04:34] <yongjian> ok the last two posts are mine. I've got my Xorg.0.log file and xorg.conf file all there. Here is the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=98577#post98577
[04:34] <vaijr2002> so that was right
[04:34] <suifur> membreya: it says "eth0: mgmt tx queue is still full" over and over
[04:34] <robodex> anyone know how to get compositing working in xfce? I compiled it with the compositor, but it's not working, even with compositing enabled in my xorg.conf
[04:34] <fr500> kotatsu, i have this command: cat /tmp/filename_$(date +%m-%d-%Y)
[04:34] <CarlK_> I am not getting any responce with $ rsync -avP cdimage.ubuntulinux.org::cdimage/daily-live/current/hoary-live-i386.iso ./hoary-live-i386.iso
[04:34] <vaijr2002> mkdir /mnt /windows
[04:34] <robodex> (I'm running hoary)
[04:34] <niciqy> I am using virtual PC to run my Ubuntu, is there anyway to mount one of my NTFS to Ubuntu so I can share file between windows and linux?
[04:34] <fr500> kotatsu, i need yesterday's date instead
[04:34] <ohgood> vaijr2002: no
[04:34] <vaijr2002> eeek
[04:34] <ohgood> vaijr2002: you aren't thinking in full paths
[04:35] <vaijr2002> hmm
[04:35] <ohgood> vaijr2002: if you mkdir /mnt/         it will err
[04:35] <Mitario> hi everyone
[04:35] <ohgood> vaijr2002: you HAVE TO use FULL PATHS when making dir's... ie     mkdir /mnt/whatever
[04:35] <dirk_> hallo Mitario
[04:35] <Mitario> is it possible to install ubuntu on an external usb-ide disk?
[04:35] <dirk_> als het boot van usb wel
[04:35] <vaijr2002> so mkdir /mnt/windows?
[04:35] <selinium_> thoreauputic: hi there again! wht is the -s flag for in the sudo thang?
[04:36] <ohgood> vaijr2002: now you're getting it
[04:36] <Mitario> dirk_ engels ;-)
[04:36] <vaijr2002> then mount the partition to that dir
[04:36] <ohgood> vaijr2002: i you choose
[04:36] <ohgood> s/i/if
[04:36] <dirk_> yeah what ever
[04:36] <Mitario> i have a q-tech usb-ide thingy, but the installer did not recognize it
[04:36] <Mitario> what modules do i need to load?
[04:36] <vaijr2002> like mount /dev/hdb /mnt/windows?
[04:36] <niciqy> ...................................
[04:36] <dirk_> tried debian?
[04:37] <ohgood> vaijr2002: NO!
[04:37] <gfxstyler> back
[04:37] <vaijr2002> damn
[04:37] <kotatsu> yongjian: your refresh and sync values look low... my home panel runs at 60/81
[04:37] <Mitario> dirk_ for what?
[04:37] <yongjian> conner: that's actually the problem. The mode is starting from 1600x1200 but I can only get that size which bigger than my screen
[04:37] <gfxstyler> all apps look weird with kde, why is this ?
[04:37] <ohgood> vaijr2002: you have to start understanding PARTITIONS nad MOUNTPOINTS
[04:37] <kotatsu> yongjian: try commenting out the "horizsync" and "vertrefresh" lines and restarting X
[04:37] <ohgood> vaijr2002: mounting a device to a partition is your misconceptiong
[04:37] <vaijr2002> hmm
[04:37] <yongjian> kotatsu: well that's dpkg-reconfigure figured out
[04:37] <kotatsu> yongjian: comment 'em out =)
[04:37] <yongjian> Tried, it gives me 640x480
[04:38] <kotatsu> yongjian: oh
[04:38] <Tuxicity> niciqy, u can read NTFS in Linux, but you cant write to it
[04:38] <kotatsu> well then raise the upper limits
[04:38] <ohgood> vaijr2002: we've been over this for 2 weeks, either start taking notes (GET A NOTEBOOK) or giveup :)
[04:38] <vaijr2002> ok so its mount /hdb /mnt/windows?
[04:38] <vaijr2002> lol
[04:38] <kotatsu> yongjian: probably on your horizsync
[04:38] <thoreauputic> selinium_: sorry, afk
[04:38] <yongjian> kotatsu: what size of your monitor?
[04:38] <kotatsu> 1280x1024
[04:38] <vaijr2002> grrr why cant i just say mount /hdb /mnt/windows
[04:38] <ohgood> vaijr2002: i've told you, more than needed.. now start taking notes.
[04:39] <membreya> suifur: you speak german ? :)
[04:39] <yongjian> I was able to go to 1600x1200. I have 2001FP
[04:39] <LinuxJones> gfxstyler, maybe your fonts need adjusting or a new theme maybe ?
[04:39] <CarlK_> you can write to ntfs with captive-ntfs, just not wiht the linux-ntfs code
[04:39] <thoreauputic> selinium_: the -s flag in sudo gives you a root shell with your usual environment, path etc
[04:39] <niciqy> Tuxicity: so it impossible to share file between windows and linux??
[04:39] <Xappe> vaijr2002, /devhdb
[04:39] <electricwheels> in your example it has rootnoverify and In mine it just has root
[04:39] <Xappe> vaijr2002, /dev/hdb
[04:39] <electricwheels> does that make a difference
[04:39] <vaijr2002> hmm
[04:39] <ohgood> electricwheels: yes, it should
[04:39] <kotatsu> yongjian: yes, try raising your horizsync to see if it lets you get that res back
[04:39] <Tuxicity> niciqy, no sorry, CarlK_ is right, you can use Captive-NTFS
[04:39] <thoreauputic> niciqy: you can share files
[04:40] <robodex> anyone know how to get compositing working in xfce? I compiled it with the compositor, but it's not working, even with compositing enabled in my xorg.conf
[04:40] <ohgood> electricwheels: you need to make sure it's pointing to the correct partition, also.
[04:40] <yongjian> ok, then what should I put in?
[04:40] <vaijr2002> grrr
[04:40] <vaijr2002> lol
[04:40] <optika> Tuxicity, niciqy: the other way to do it (since you're using vmware) is to share the folder out on your windows box, and connect to it using the linux virtual machine.
[04:40] <ohgood> vaijr2002: where is your notebook ?
[04:40] <electricwheels> as far as I know it is hd0,0
[04:40] <yongjian> kotatsu: Like what you have?
[04:40] <vaijr2002> is there a partitiion manager in ubuntu
[04:40] <vaijr2002> i dont kow
[04:40] <vaijr2002> know
[04:40] <ohgood> electricwheels: that would be harddrive 0, partition 1
[04:40] <yongjian> 60-81, do you think that would do? I can try that
[04:41] <ohgood> vaijr2002: where is your notebook ?
[04:41] <kotatsu> yongjian: actually here's the problem: (WW) (1600x1200,DELL 2001FP) mode clock 160.833MHz exceeds DDC maximum 160MHz
[04:41] <electricwheels> I'll give you the error that I get when I try to start windows from the loader
[04:41] <ohgood> vaijr2002: you have a learning problem. write things down to help you.
[04:41] <vaijr2002> ok got one open
[04:41] <vaijr2002> i am
[04:41] <kotatsu> just try upping your horizsync limit to like 90 or something
[04:41] <kotatsu> then restart X
[04:41] <kotatsu> not sure if that'll make a difference, I'm not a display guru
[04:41] <vaijr2002> so i mkdir /mnt /windows ?
[04:41] <selinium_> thoreauputic: cheers fot that!
[04:41] <niciqy> optika: sorry i didnt get it. Linux is in the virtual PC, windows is what I am using. I got no idea how to share
[04:41] <ohgood> vaijr2002: mount /dev/hda* /mnt/DATA           with * being hte partition number, and /mnt/DATA the mount opint you've createed already
[04:41] <kotatsu> but that line I pasted above is your problem
[04:42] <_Demian_> vaijr2002, http://ubuntuguide.org/#qtparted
[04:42] <ohgood> vaijr2002: this is the end of the mount lesson.
[04:42] <HcE> How can I change desktops with the wheel on my mouse in Gnome?
[04:42] <HcE> should I set something up?
[04:42] <yongjian> kotatsu: ok but I will give it a try.
[04:42] <kotatsu> I don't know if upping the horizsync increases your video card frequency
[04:42] <thoreauputic> HcE: you can't
[04:42] <electricwheels> root  (hd0,0)     filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7  savedefault   makeactive   chainloader +1
[04:42] <optika> niciqy: first, you need to make sure that networking between the virtual pc and the windows install is working
[04:42] <optika> niciqy: then, share out the folder from your windows box as you normally would
[04:42] <HcE> thoreauputic: ah, so broken... :( I was giving a shot converting from Openbox
[04:42] <optika> niciqy: then, connect to it from the linux virtual pc.
[04:42] <ohgood> electricwheels: as root, do: fdisk -l           and see if you are pointing to the correct partition
[04:42] <garrut> HcE, just hold your mousepointer over the workspace switcher and scroll
[04:43] <yongjian> kotatsu, I will try that and will be right back
[04:43] <thoreauputic> HcE: i wish you could too - I use it in fluxbox
[04:43] <electricwheels> ok
[04:43] <Xappe> hmm, why do I get "NOT AUTHENTICATED" in synaptic when trying to do a regular dist-upgrade? haven't happened since december at least...
[04:43] <niciqy> optika: and how do I connect from linux?
[04:43] <ohgood> electricwheels: so you want your xp partition, that is /dev/hda1, right ?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> garrut: doesn't seem to work on warty ?
[04:43] <vaijr2002> ok gonna go read a bit
[04:43] <optika> niciqy: as you would connect to any normal smb share.
[04:43] <vaijr2002> ohgood ya gonna stick with ubuntu?
[04:43] <garrut> oh, i've got hoary, it works here
[04:43] <optika> niciqy: Umm, you probably need to install samba.
[04:44] <ohgood> vaijr2002: till i get the hang of things, then tar up root, and get back to work
[04:44] <kotatsu> niciqy: install smbfs and mount it, or browse to smb://(computer) in samba
[04:44] <vaijr2002> so ya going back to gentoo?
[04:44] <[FiDO] > can anyone help me with a dvd problem with hoary
[04:44] <thoreauputic> garrut: ah, good to know for when I upgrade
[04:44] <electricwheels> that is what is being told to me from the fdisk -l my windows boot partition is hda1
[04:44] <ohgood> vaijr2002: i never left gentoo, suse, or debian
[04:44] <vaijr2002> lol ok
[04:44] <vaijr2002> so i can use .deb packages with ubuntu?
[04:45] <ohgood> electricwheels: ok, so i'll message you a typical setup...
[04:45] <[FiDO] > i can play dvds but for some reason they run choppy
[04:45] <electricwheels> ok thankls
[04:45] <[FiDO] > I think I have all the necessary packages installed
[04:45] <niciqy> kotatsu: and where i get smbfs??
[04:45] <HcE> garrut: my mouse wheel dosn't work like that there, maybe I need to set an option somewhere?
[04:45] <LinuxJones> [FiDO] , maybe DMA is not set on your DVD/CD drive ?
[04:45] <kotatsu> $ apt-get install smbfs
[04:45] <[FiDO] > how do I fix that
[04:45] <ohgood> electricwheels: that should be all you need
[04:46] <thoreauputic> vaijr2002: just use ubuntu debs - else things can break
[04:46] <vaijr2002> okies
[04:46] <kotatsu> [FiDO] : does sudo hdparm /dev/(cdrom drive) report DMA as on?
[04:46] <vaijr2002> brb gonna go mess up my partition table lol
[04:46] <[FiDO] > I'll try that thanks
[04:46] <kotatsu> yongjian: any luck?
[04:46] <electricwheels> thanks I'll give that try and see what happens and get back to you and let you know ... thanks ever so much for the help//
[04:46] <ohgood> vaijr2002: you're going to cockup if you start with parted
[04:46] <thoreauputic> HcE: are you using hoary?
[04:46] <LinuxJones> [FiDO] , you can check by running sudo hdparm /dev/hdx (replace x with the device pointed to in ls -al /dev/cdrom)
[04:47] <ohgood> vaijr2002: use your notes, mount stuffs normally. it's _easy_
[04:47] <yongjian> kotatsu, I changed to 90 and no luck. still the same
[04:47] <kotatsu> yongjian: is your monitor supposed to run at 60 or 75 hz?
[04:47] <yongjian> kotatsu: now i am thinking if the xorg is having problem
[04:47] <HcE> thoreauputic: Warty
[04:47] <Smiler_> anyone know where the #evolution channel is hosted?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> HcE: garrut is on hoary
[04:47] <HcE> ok
[04:47] <thoreauputic> HcE: sounds like a new thing
[04:48] <yongjian> I am not sure, I could not find TECH spec for the DELL 2001FP for the official support refresh rate
[04:48] <kotatsu> yongjian: many panels are supposed to run at 60, you might lower your vertical refresh
[04:48] <yongjian> I just did dpkg-reconfigure and it detected for me
[04:48] <sabmoc> I would like to write a quick how-to for changing the default mouse cursor for xorg/ubuntu how can I find out if the wiki already has one, or if not, where should I put it?
[04:48] <niciqy> kotatsu: okie i installed it, then??
[04:48] <kotatsu> or try disabling DDC (Option "NoDDC" "true")
[04:49] <kotatsu> niciqy: just mount it as normal using the mount command: $ mount -t smbfs //computer/share /path/to/mount/dir
[04:49] <yongjian> kotatsu: where should add that Option?
[04:49] <DyGyTyL> there is one already..been reading through xorg docs all morning and still haven't been able to find my prob:P
[04:49] <kotatsu> yongjian: under your device section
[04:49] <yongjian> ok, let me try
[04:49] <wnaLinux> does anyone in here know how to change the default window manager from gdm to fvwm
[04:50] <ohgood> wnaLinux: gdm is the login manager
[04:50] <wnaLinux> oh
[04:50] <thoreauputic> wnaLinux: the window manager is metacity, actually
[04:50] <ohgood> wnaLinux: you can change WM's from gdm, if you like
[04:50] <yongjian> kotatsu: ok I just added. I will restart X again and see how that works and then see if we have to adjust the vertical refresh
[04:50] <wnaLinux> so how do I change it from metacity to fvwm
[04:50] <ohgood> no
[04:50] <LinuxJones> [FiDO] , it's not set by default probably because your cdrom device is not recognized before hdparm settings are applied
[04:51] <thoreauputic> ohgood: he might want to change the underlying wm for gnome?
[04:51] <ohgood> wnaLinux: if you want to use fvwm exclusively, (no gnome) then just login to fvwm, from gdm
[04:51] <yongjian> kotatsu: It is just weird, it was working before... :((
[04:51] <inphlict> Hello0
[04:51] <yongjian> BRB
[04:51] <ohgood> thoreauputic: agreed, unspecified
[04:51] <thoreauputic> wnaLinux: you want it under gnome?
[04:51] <inphlict> I installed mplayer using this guide
[04:51] <inphlict> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94
[04:51] <wnaLinux> yeah
[04:51] <inphlict> how can i remove mplayer?
[04:51] <ohgood> wnaLinux: disreguard my post
[04:51] <LinuxJones> [FiDO] , :)
[04:51] <deFrysk> apt-get remove mplayer
[04:52] <deFrysk> sudo
[04:52] <Jesterace> heh grumpygroundhog
[04:52] <Jesterace> any of that work yet? :P
[04:52] <Echylo> are the ubuntu servers slow?
[04:52] <wnaLinux> so how do I change it from metacity to fvwm
[04:52] <wnaLinux> under gnome
[04:52] <deFrysk> Echylo, not realy no
[04:52] <inphlict> deFrysk: that doesn't remove it
[04:52] <Echylo> hmm
[04:52] <LinuxJones> Hi Jesterace
[04:52] <thoreauputic> wnaLinux: not sure how that's done - possibly gnome-session-properties
[04:52] <inphlict> it says the package is not insatlled
[04:52] <Jesterace> lo LinuxJones
[04:53] <Jesterace> heh i got tons of ubuntu pressed cds in the mail today :P
[04:53] <deFrysk> apt-get remove mplayer-<arch>
[04:53] <inphlict> I followed the guide so it did some custom crap
[04:53] <thoreauputic> wnaLinux: but that's a guess, frankly
[04:53] <inphlict> I get "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'"
[04:53] <inphlict> with the command u gave me
[04:54] <deFrysk> inphlict, geez you compiled it
[04:54] <inphlict> yes I did
[04:54] <ohgood> why ?
[04:54] <inphlict> i'm a noob
[04:54] <kotatsu> yongjian: not sure what else to tell you =\ hopefully someone will respond to your post with the answer
[04:54] <inphlict> I wanted to try it
[04:54] <deFrysk> noobs dont compile
[04:54] <inphlict> I followed that guide and compiled it
[04:54] <Tuxicity> ahahaha
[04:54] <kotatsu> yongjian: display settings are really hard to troubleshoot without being in front of the screen, sometimes
[04:54] <inphlict> how can I remove it?
[04:55] <wnaLinux> so uhh you dont know how to do it?
[04:55] <inphlict> nope :(
[04:55] <thoreauputic> inphlict: there is sometimes a "make uninstall" script in the build directory
[04:55] <inphlict> I'm very new to linux
[04:55] <inphlict> let me check
[04:55] <thoreauputic> wnaLinux: I don't, no - someone does for sure - have you googled ?
[04:56] <deFrysk> inphlict, go to the folders where you installed it from and do make uninstall blah
[04:56] <deFrysk> inphlict, and hope for the best
[04:56] <inphlict> how do I do make uninstall?
[04:56] <inphlict> and why hope for the best?
[04:56] <deFrysk> sudo make uninstall
[04:57] <deFrysk> inphlict, success is not guaranteed
[04:57] <thoreauputic> inphlict: because such a script is not always included
[04:57] <ells> anyone know the difference between hoary ubuntu and kubuntu hoary, just curious
[04:57] <ohgood> hmm, hoary mplayer howto's anyone ?
[04:57] <malte`> ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[04:57] <deFrysk> ohgood wikipages restricted formats
[04:57] <thoreauputic> ells: kubuntu has kde as a base
[04:57] <ells> malte' thanks
[04:57] <ells> thoreauputic, thanks
[04:57] <Tuxicity> ells, explained kubuntu.org.uk FAQ
[04:57] <ohgood> deFrysk: come again ?
[04:57] <[FiDO] > LinuxJones: I changed the hdparm.conf file to enable dma
[04:57] <ells> Tuxicity, thanks
[04:58] <ells> has anyone ever had to use the debian irc line
[04:58] <deFrysk> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:58] <[FiDO] > that should make it so it will be automatically enabled at boot right
[04:58] <ells> those folks are like ultra rude
[04:58] <inphlict> I get make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[04:58] <LinuxJones> [FiDO] , ok you should be fine now :)
[04:58] <malte`> they go like "RTFM" every time
[04:58] <niciqy> does Ubuntu has gvim?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> ells: heh - thay have a reputation ;)
[04:58] <[FiDO] > thanks dude
[04:58] <LinuxJones> [FiDO] , :)
[04:58] <Seveas> niciqy, gtkvim
[04:59] <ells> thoreauputic, I almost had to curse one jerk off out
[04:59] <ohgood> deFrysk: oh, ty sir, missed that link at first
[04:59] <ells> I have debian on my desktop and ubuntu on my laptop
[04:59] <Seveas> niciqy, apt-get install vim-gtk :)
[04:59] <yongjian> kotatsu: YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!
[04:59] <thoreauputic> ells: good place to lurk, but don't mention ubuntu
[04:59] <deFrysk> yongjian, no i am ;p
[04:59] <LinuxJones> ells, stay in #ubuntu a better class of people reside here :)
[04:59] <yongjian> It is the DDC stuff that caused this problem
[04:59] <thoreauputic> ells: some of them are very knowledgable
[05:00] <ells> thoreauputic, tell me bout it, i mention that I have ubuntu on my laptop and that my wireless would not work on debian and they freaked out
[05:00] <yongjian> well, whoever figured might be the "DDC" issue is rock
[05:00] <ells> I agree that ubuntu are better folks
[05:00] <kotatsu> yongjian: it's working now?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> ells: but some of them are...er..immature
[05:00] <yongjian> kotatsu: YES. It is back to 1600x1200
[05:00] <yongjian> The DDC is the killer
[05:00] <deFrysk> ells its the irc way of talking
[05:00] <Seveas> ells, is your wireless working already?
[05:00] <robodex> anyone know how to get compositing working in xfce? I compiled it with the compositor, but it's not working, even with compositing enabled in my xorg.conf
[05:00] <kotatsu> yongjian: awesome hehe, I've had problems with DDC myself in the past, although they seem to have gone away now
[05:00] <thoreauputic> ells: well, stick with #ubuntu
[05:00] <deFrysk> ells, get used to it
[05:00] <ells> thoreauputic, I agree, one guy is from Australia and has to be like 12 years old
[05:01] <ells> deFrysk, should not have to
[05:01] <yongjian> kotatsu: This is a bug
[05:01] <ells> deFrysk, we are trying to spread linux
[05:01] <thoreauputic> ells: heh - i'm from Australia too :)
[05:01] <CarlK_> can someone try the rsync command for "Or, for live CD" on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GettingUbuntu - I am getting errors
[05:01] <LinuxJones> ells, there are alot of good people there but a few elitist man-page-memorizing-zobies with big egos will let you know how great they are :)
[05:01] <niciqy>  Seveas: apt-get install vim-gtk :) == error
[05:01] <ells> thoreauputic, nothing personal, he was just immature
[05:01] <thoreauputic> ells: I know :)
[05:01] <ells> LinuxJones, I agree
[05:01] <Seveas> niciqy, don't copy the smily
[05:01] <Seveas> just:
[05:01] <deFrysk> ells, agree but we are also volunteers here and sometimes need to blow off some irc steam
[05:01] <Seveas> apt-get install vim-gtk
[05:01] <robodex> too many updates aaaaaa! I just updated and already I have 9 more packages to update
[05:01] <yongjian> I got a while to confim it is the DDC issue cause I commented out something else but later I figured out that is the issue
[05:01] <ells> LinuxJones, One guy was rude and said he was trying to help
[05:02] <ells> LinuxJones, I told him, really, how so
[05:02] <yongjian> kotatsu: Thank you so much for helping!
[05:02] <kotatsu> yongjian: you're welcome, glad it's working for ya now
[05:02] <yongjian> It is much better now...
[05:02] <ells> deFrysk, ,agreed, but this is a community of friends, or it should be
[05:02] <thoreauputic> ells: forget #debian, we all know what it's like: it makes an amusing spectator blood sport
[05:02] <LinuxJones> ells, I stopped going into that channel like 2 years ago because of that foolishness
[05:03] <kotatsu> thoreauputic: want to hold hands and skip, friend?
[05:03] <inphlict> sweet
[05:03] <ells> thoreauputic: I agree, if ubuntu would work on my desktop it would be onhere
[05:03] <inphlict> I did it!
[05:03] <deFrysk> ells, again its irc culture
[05:03] <LinuxJones> ells, what's wrong ?
[05:03] <ells> thoreauputic: something to do with the framebuffer
[05:03] <niciqy>  Seveas: no such package. its change to vim-gnome vim
[05:03] <ells> LinuxJones, locks up at begin install
[05:03] <ells> LinuxJones, Sis chipset
[05:03] <ells> on board video,  yaknow
[05:03] <thoreauputic> kotatsu: I'm not really thehand holding type - more the tree hugging type ;-)
[05:04] <ells> thoreaputic, good call
[05:04] <kotatsu> bah, suck
[05:04] <kotatsu> that's no fun
[05:04] <larsrohdin> im using gdm... how can i change the picture too my account?
[05:04] <LinuxJones> ells, it just freezes ?
[05:04] <ells> LinuxJones, yeap
[05:04] <ells> LinuxJones, hopefully, hoary will take instead
[05:04] <ells> LinuxJones,  doesnt make sense
[05:04] <LinuxJones> ells, can you change to another virtual terminal or it's a hard freeze ?
[05:04] <optika> farruinn: er, just in case you care, reinstalling libgnome did the trick wrt those gnome-theme problems :)
[05:05] <monteiro> anyone knows how i download the characters that is missing on my characters map ?
[05:05] <ells> LinuxJones, not sure totally what ya mean, but it locks up tighter than a drum
[05:05] <kotatsu> I thought mplayer was in ubuntu already... mplayer-custom or something
[05:05] <inphlict> whats the command to del files from terminal
[05:05] <ells> LinuxJones, no cursor nothing
[05:05] <Seveas> kotatsu, it's in the marillat repos
[05:05] <optika> inphlict: rm
[05:05] <inphlict> thnx
[05:05] <apokryphos> inphlict: man rm
[05:05] <LinuxJones> ells, so if you do ctrl+alt+F3 it won't change to a new terminal ?
[05:05] <ells> LinuxJones, honestly did not try that
[05:06] <ells> LinuxJones, I can see the screen that asks which language
[05:06] <niciqy> kotatsu: still cant get the Samba thing to work
[05:06] <ells> LinuxJones, bu that is it
[05:06] <ells> LinuxJones, maybe I will try it again today
[05:06] <ells> LinuxJones, is hoary good enough now to do a fresh install with it
[05:07] <LinuxJones> ells, sometimes a bad cd burn can do that can yo check the md5sum of your downloaded .iso file against the md5sum of the .iso on the ftp server ?
[05:07] <ells> LinuxJones,  this is a real ubuntu cd, from them
[05:07] <LinuxJones> ells, ahhh
[05:07] <inphlict> how do I get out of the man rm thing with out closing the terminal?
[05:07] <goldfish_> inphlict: q
[05:07] <ells> LinuxJones
[05:07] <ells> LinuxJones: sorry, do you think hoary is good enough to do a fresh install,ya think
[05:08] <LinuxJones> ells, you weren't messing about with your bios settings by any chance. I installed Ubuntu on my nephew's computer and after resetting the system bios it installed just fine
[05:08] <ells> LinuxJones,  not me personally, but it is freshly built
[05:08] <ells> LinuxJones,I built it just for linux
[05:08] <ells> LinuxJones, as a semi-file server
[05:08] <ells> 120 gig
[05:09] <LinuxJones> ells, If it is a new mobo I would check for a bios update. Maybe there were some probles that needed addressing.
[05:09] <vaijr2002> weeeeeeeeeeeeee i did it. mounted my two win partitions and didnt goof up my fstab woot woot
[05:09] <ells> LinuxJones: maybe I will try to install hoary directly instead of warty
[05:09] <oclv> is there a known issue with xmms and hoary i've missed somewhere ?
[05:09] <EsK> sup
[05:10] <LinuxJones> ells, new things are being fixed all the time :)
[05:10] <Xappe> oclv, what's the problem?
[05:10] <ells> LinuxJones, I agree
[05:10] <thoreauputic> ells: hoary goes "stable"  in a few weeks anyway
[05:10] <oclv> Xappe: lib errors, can't find/use stuffs for xmms
[05:10] <ells> LinuxJones, I really like ubuntu
[05:10] <ells> thoreauputic, cool
[05:10] <ells> thoreauputic, ubuntu for life
[05:10] <LinuxJones> ells, is it a 64 bit system you built ?
[05:10] <Xappe> oclv, hmm...never heard of that. my xmms is fine
[05:10] <ells> thoreauputic, very nice and user friendly
[05:10] <ells> LinuxJones, unfortunately not, but it is amd
[05:11] <LinuxJones> oclv, libmikmod it can't find ??
[05:11] <oclv> Xappe: ok, how did you isntall it ?
[05:11] <ells> LinuxJones, ,the Cebron?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ells: yes, it fixed my sound problems automagicaly :)
[05:11] <Xappe> oclv, apt-get install xmms
[05:11] <ells> thoreauputic: nice
[05:11] <LinuxJones> ells, I wouldn't run anything but AMD on a pc :)
[05:11] <ells> thoreauputic: using ubuntu, my wireless worked out the box on my laptop
[05:11] <oclv> Xappe: apt says i hve the latest
[05:11] <ells> LinuxJones, agree
[05:12] <niciqy> kotatsu: i got an error: error connecting (operation already in progress)
[05:12] <ells> LinuxJones, my laptop though is a 17 in toshiba
[05:12] <Jesterace> i should put the ubuntu live cd in my gf's laptop and see what happens
[05:12] <Xappe> oclv, weird
[05:12] <LinuxJones> oclv, apt-get update && apt-get install libmikmod2
[05:12] <ells> LinuxJones, Intel 3.0 gig
[05:12] <thoreauputic> oclv: try sudo apt-get install libmikmod2
[05:12] <LinuxJones> ells, 17" laptop *drools*
[05:12] <oclv> LinuxJones: where might i have found this nugget ?
[05:13] <ells> LinuxJones, it was from the pops for college
[05:13] <LinuxJones> oclv, it's in one of the apt- repositories
[05:13] <oclv>  (same error btw)
[05:13] <ells> LinuxJones, I am an old student
[05:13] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: ah sorry - didn't see your answer
[05:13] <LinuxJones> ells, I am old AND dim-whitted :)
[05:13] <EsK> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.10-4-386 Mem: 485/757M [||||||||||]  Diskspace: 35.17G Free: 31.20G Procs: 104 Uptime: 20 hrs 34 mins 41 secs Load: 0.94 0.45 0.35  Screen: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Screen Resolution: 1280x1024 (24 bpp) eth0: In: 69.81M Out: 2.99M
[05:13] <ells> LinuxJones, I am in the army, bout to grad. on 28th
[05:14] <oclv> i don't suppose there is some other hidden thing i need for xmms ?
[05:14] <LinuxJones> ells, great
[05:14] <ells> LinuxJones, I am out in Colorado
[05:14] <ells> LinuxJones, thanks
[05:14] <Xappe> oclv, shouldn't be
[05:14] <thoreauputic> EsK: erm - what was the sysinfo in aid of?
[05:14] <Xappe> oclv, have you tried beep media player?
[05:14] <ells> LinuxJones, I will have a BS in bs, naw, jk,  I will have BS in Project Man.
[05:14] <EsK> idk
[05:15] <niciqy> why is samba giving me time out error?
[05:15] <EsK> had to make my entrance
[05:15] <LinuxJones> ells, the only place in the state I want to visit is Colorado Too much John Denver on the radio as a kid I guess :D
[05:15] <oclv> Xappe: hehe, beep hasn't cut the mustard in some time, or i would just get it. :(
[05:15] <kotatsu> niciqy: when you try to mount it or browse to it?
[05:15] <ells> LinuxJones, nice place
[05:15] <_Demian_> does anyone know where to get a good c compiler?
[05:15] <EsK> gcc
[05:15] <thoreauputic> EsK: in some channels, would have been followed by a quick exit :)
[05:15] <vaijr2002> now lets see if i can install mplayer lol
[05:15] <EsK> oh well
[05:15] <kotatsu> _Demian_: $ apt-get install gcc
[05:15] <niciqy> kotatsu: mount
[05:15] <EsK> lots of IPs ;)
[05:15] <_Demian_> kotatsu, thnx
[05:16] <thoreauputic> _Demian_: no, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:16] <kotatsu> niciqy: try using nautilus to browse to the share
[05:16] <ells> LinuxJones, did you say you are from Australia
[05:16] <Xappe> oclv, that's because mustard doesn't need any cutting. just use a spoon...
[05:16] <LinuxJones> ells, Eastern Canada
[05:16] <thoreauputic> _Demian_: you'll need more than gcc
[05:16] <oclv> Oh well, maybe i'll try hoary again when the _next_ unstable version is released. no more time to play now. good job so far folks, and good luck.
[05:16] <kotatsu> niciqy: Places --> Network Servers --> Windows Network
[05:16] <_Demian_> it worked
[05:16] <oclv> Xappe: hehe, agreed.
[05:16] <ells> LinuxJones, ,nice
[05:16] <_Demian_> as far as I can tell :)
[05:16] <inphlict> Hey, can someone please address this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20756
[05:16] <oclv> ba bye
[05:16] <ells> LinuxJones, cold, most of the year, right
[05:17] <LinuxJones> ells, Spring is just around the corner...thank god
[05:17] <_Demian_> thoreauputic, thnx
[05:17] <ells> LinuxJones, yeap
[05:17] <ells> LinuxJones, kind of nice today here
[05:17] <EsK> they need to update the ubuntu guide
[05:17] <LinuxJones> ells, actually we only got about 4 feet of snow all year and rather mild to boot :)
[05:17] <ells> LinuxJones, do you have the exact url do a fresh hoary download
[05:17] <Xappe> here we had a nice day, but now it's all snowy :/
[05:17] <ells> LinuxJone, nice
[05:17] <LinuxJones> ells, www.archive.ubuntulinux.org
[05:18] <ells> LinuxJones, thanks
[05:18] <ells> LinuxJones, you sure, it didnt come up
[05:18] <niciqy> where is places???
[05:18] <SpOoKySpOoKy> hello
[05:18] <Xappe> but the weather seems quite nice downtown: http://www.uu.se/carpediem/ :)
[05:19] <flawd> anyone here who uses cedega and has been able to install a game with more than one cd?
[05:19] <SpOoKySpOoKy> anybody who would like to help me?
[05:19] <SpOoKySpOoKy> I'm running the live cd
[05:19] <CarlK_> SpOoKySpOoKy - yes, type some things
[05:19] <SpOoKySpOoKy> so
[05:19] <LinuxJones> Xappe, where is that Spain ?
[05:19] <Xappe> sweden
[05:19] <LinuxJones> Xappe, ahh
[05:19] <niciqy> kotatsu: what places?
[05:20] <SpOoKySpOoKy> I'd like to run with vga 800x600 but the monitor has blinking
[05:20] <SpOoKySpOoKy> the leds
[05:20] <SpOoKySpOoKy> how can I set the 800x600 in lower resolution for the live cd
[05:20] <SpOoKySpOoKy> ?
[05:20] <ells> LinuxJones,  found it thanks
[05:20] <EsK> i need like, 20 bucks, can anyone donate to the EsK cancer survival center?
[05:20] <LinuxJones> ells, great
[05:21] <ells> LinuxJones, I am gonna try Hoary today
[05:21] <EsK> ells, great
[05:21] <ells> LinuxJones, on the.........DESKTOP
[05:21] <EsK> <---desktop
[05:21] <ells> Esk, I tried ubuntu warty before on it, a nd it locked up
[05:22] <Xappe> *damdamdamdam* <-- jaws music
[05:22] <EsK> oh
[05:22] <EsK> ok
[05:22] <ells> Esk, will try Hoary and see the diff.
[05:22] <EsK> koool
[05:22] <EsK> cool*
[05:22] <EsK> alright
[05:22] <ells> Esk, no prob
[05:22] <EsK> dont mess up anything or you'd have to reinstall like me
[05:22] <ells> Esk, ,i have done that enough times
[05:22] <LinuxJones> ells, I hope it works for you. If you have the same problem with Hoary I would first reset bios, check again then look for a bios update
[05:22] <EsK> yeah
[05:22] <ells> LinuxJones: cool
[05:22] <EsK> who runs kubuntu in here
[05:22] <niciqy> kotatsu: what Places????
[05:23] <goldfish_> EsK: try in #kubuntu
[05:23] <ells> LinuxJones: someone told me that Linux doesnt like Sis, not sure if true
[05:23] <EsK> i mean
[05:23] <EsK> okay w/e
[05:23] <ells> Esk: why not just go straight ubuntu
[05:23] <EsK> ma
[05:23] <thoreauputic> ells: I have sis onboard
[05:23] <LinuxJones> ells, mmm I don't know for sure
[05:23] <EsK> i like em both
[05:23] <ells> thoreauputic, really
[05:23] <thoreauputic> ells: I think as always "it depends"
[05:23] <ells> thoreauputic, works fine?
[05:24] <ells> thoreauputic, okay
[05:24] <kotatsu> niciqy: click on your "places" menu at the top of the screen
[05:24] <thoreauputic> ells: had a lot of sound problems with sis, but ubuntu resolved them
[05:24] <ells> thoreauputic, the board is winfast or something
[05:24] <EsK> is there any environments other than kde n gnome on ubuntu
[05:24] <ells> thoreauputic: on board sound
[05:24] <thoreauputic> ells Asus board here
[05:25] <ells> thoreauputic: winfast K7S
[05:25] <thoreauputic> ells: my sound is onboard si7012
[05:25] <kotatsu> EsK: yes, to varying degrees... you can replace your window manager only, or use something like xfce to replace most of your desktop
[05:25] <ells> thoreauputic: okay
[05:25] <EsK> oh
[05:25] <ells> thoreauputic: now problems but the video deal
[05:25] <EsK> i need to shit
[05:25] <EsK> brb
[05:25] <ells> thoreauputic: something bout trying to enable the frame buffer
[05:25] <niciqy> kotatsu: there is just a panel with Applications and Computer
[05:25] <sig> anyone using gmplayer?
[05:25] <vaijr2002> weeeee got me email done too woot this is easier than suse or gentoo lol
[05:26] <niciqy> kotatsu: no "places"
[05:26] <Xappe> sig, now and then, yes
[05:26] <vaijr2002> now the only things i cant do is get this one stupid program working right verlihub
[05:26] <thoreauputic> ells: you could try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure --plow xserver-xfree86 and say no to the framebuffer
[05:26] <sig> Xappe: hmm
[05:26] <vaijr2002> thanks for the link Xappe
[05:27] <thoreauputic> ells: might work, worth a try
[05:27] <ells> thoreauputic: that is at the very beginning: it locks up at the screen where it asks the language
[05:27] <Xappe> vaijr2002, what link?
[05:27] <ells> thoreauputic: hopefully, Hoary will solve my issues
[05:27] <thoreauputic> ells: hmm - you can run commands in another tty if you can get to one
[05:27] <vaijr2002> http://ubuntuguide.org/#qtparted
[05:28] <ells> thoreauputic: no movement at all including mouse and or cursor
[05:28] <Xappe> vaijr2002, hmm, that was not me?
[05:28] <vaijr2002> oh ok hehe
[05:28] <ells> thoreauputic: kind of like Fort Knox
[05:28] <vaijr2002> well thanks whom every did lol
[05:28] <thoreauputic> ells: urghh - bad news :(
[05:28] <vaijr2002> really helpfull
[05:28] <vaijr2002> i need a smart person though to help me get this program working
[05:28] <vaijr2002> its verlihub direct connect hub program
[05:28] <ells> thoreauputic: I am optimistic, I am on it right now, , Debian works on it, hopefully Hoary will
[05:29] <vaijr2002> thats the only thing i cant get working
[05:29] <ells> thoreauputic: warty just doesnt
[05:29] <thoreauputic> ells: ah, yes that sounds positive
[05:29] <ells> thoreauputic: even if it doesnt, i am done with the debian irc
[05:30] <DyGyTyL> if an app requires the X Windows System libraries and headers, what pkg would that fall under? :/
[05:30] <goldfish> is #debian that bad?
[05:30] <vaijr2002> brb
[05:30] <ells> goldfish: yes
[05:30] <EsK> igh back
[05:30] <goldfish> hehe
[05:30] <thoreauputic> ells: hehe - yes I can understand that: I learnt a lot in there though, so it isn't all bad :)
[05:30] <ells> goldfish: they are rude
[05:30] <goldfish> ah right
[05:30] <warthawg> man, ubuntu hoary preview gets a failing grade on the install
[05:30] <goldfish> I'm a n00b, luckily i came in here and not there :)
[05:30] <ells> thoreauputic: I could see that
[05:30] <apokryphos> goldfish: ventured in there a couple of times. Asked an apt problem, but they were... let's say: unhappy, that I used Ubuntu ;-). The heat conjured up could be felt miles away
[05:30] <sig> warthawg: why?
[05:30] <LinuxJones> warthawg, what's wrong ?
[05:30] <ells> goldfish, yes you are, these guys r friendly and good at what they do
[05:31] <apokryphos> I think many are a little sour about such issues
[05:31] <warthawg> sig LinuxJones   it offers me one choice for partitioning, wipe everything out and take it over
[05:31] <thoreauputic> goldfish: keep very quiet for a month or so if you  venture into #debian, is my advice
[05:31] <LinuxJones> warthawg, what ?
[05:31] <sig> warthawg: why not upgrade with apt?
[05:31] <warthawg> LinuxJones:  i can't keep existing partitions, they don't appear
[05:31] <LinuxJones> warthawg, that's not right
[05:31] <goldfish> thoreauputic: hehe, think i'll stay out :)
[05:31] <ells> thoreauputic, truly, those guys are not altogether nice folks
[05:31] <warthawg> LinuxJones:  you're dmn right it's not :)
[05:32] <ells> goldfish, they are like sharks
[05:32] <petemc> ells: you cant tar everyone with the same brush
[05:32] <goldfish> lol
[05:32] <thoreauputic> goldfish: it's a real pity, because some of them really know their stuff
[05:32] <ells> petemc, ,truly
[05:32] <ells> petemc, have been in there a dozen or so times
[05:32] <LinuxJones> warthawg, did you look at the help screen F1 I think
[05:32] <goldfish> shame
[05:32] <ells> petemc, someone is being rude to someone
[05:32] <thoreauputic> petemc: that's true - some people in #debian are excellent
[05:32] <warthawg> linuxjones  i'll try F1
[05:33] <ells> petemc, there should be some respect amongst the community , ya know
[05:33] <Xappe> petemc, you can tar everybody with the right command though :)
[05:33] <petemc> ells: this is true, but put 700 people together and you'll get that in almost any situation
[05:33] <ells> Xappe , that works
[05:33] <LinuxJones> warthawg, I upgraded from Warty but find it hard to believe you can't keep your partitions...waht kind of hard drive do you have ?
[05:33] <ells> petemc: hardly ever in here
[05:33] <thoreauputic> ells: I think petemc has done some time in #debian :)
[05:33] <ells> thoreauputic: it is all good,  I just wont go in thre again
[05:33] <warthawg> LinuxJones  IBM t40 laptop
[05:33] <EsK> debian is a pain in the ass to install
[05:33] <ells> petemc: all is good,  just have had bad experiences in there
[05:34] <LinuxJones> warthawg, that an ide drive ?
[05:34] <petemc> ells: fair enough :)
[05:34] <thoreauputic> EsK: not now, with the d-i installer
[05:34] <ells> petemc: what r u running
[05:34] <apokryphos> hehe. I just checked now... not a pretty site
[05:34] <petemc> ubuntu on my laptop, debian on my servers
[05:34] <thoreauputic> EsK: the debian installer is the same as the ubuntu installer now, BTW
[05:34] <niciqy> kotatsu: there is just a panel with Applications and Computer, non "places"!!!
[05:35] <DyGyTyL> dselect rocked back in the day..heh, aint got nothin on synaptics now though
[05:35] <ells> petemc: ubuntu on my desktop and debian on my desktop
[05:35] <ells> petemc: switch that
[05:35] <petemc> :)
[05:35] <warthawg> LinuxJones:  yes, IDE
[05:35] <EsK> not really
[05:35] <EsK> cuz it was diff
[05:35] <ells> petemc; I mean on my laptop ubuntu, and debian on my desktop
[05:35] <EsK> well the one i had
[05:35] <EsK> it was alot diff than ubuntu
[05:35] <warthawg> there is a parameter for the thinkpad floppy, but that's the only thing i see
[05:35] <foreach> Has anyone in here successfully gone from warty to hoary? I'm still on warty, and wondering if the bugs are going to kill me
[05:36] <thoreauputic> EsK: the sarge installer, or woody? (the older one?)
[05:36] <kasper> whats difference between Ubuntu Linux 5.04 : The Hoary Hedgehog Release and 4.10?
[05:36] <ells> foreach, yes, took some work
[05:36] <thoreauputic> foreach: probably most people here are on hoary
[05:36] <goldfish> kasper: 5.04 is the new version
[05:36] <ells> kasper, have seen better network tools at least fo wireless
[05:36] <foreach> ells - 'course. Then again, am I better off waiting until the official release?  I'll do some more reading before I make the switch
[05:38] <goldfish> kasper: yep
[05:38] <Xappe> april 6th or something like that
[05:38] <kasper> cool
[05:38] <goldfish> kasper: 5.04 is close to stable
[05:38] <goldfish> alot of ppl in here run it
[05:38] <ells> foreach, ,be my guest, it works pretty good though
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Usiu: take ten deep breaths...
[05:38] <kasper> when i try to add kde in its gui synaptic
[05:39] <kasper> it has errors with adding kde-addons and konq plugin
[05:39] <vaijr2002> when i do a make install do i have to do sudo make install?
[05:39] <thoreauputic> vaijr2002: why are you compiling?
[05:39] <vaijr2002> yes
[05:39] <goldfish> lol
[05:39] <thoreauputic> haha
[05:40] <EsK> can someone donate me some CD-Rs
[05:40] <LinuxJones> good answer
[05:40] <niciqy> seriously need enlightenment on "Places --> Network Servers --> Windows Network"
[05:40] <vaijr2002> i have to do sudo right?
[05:40] <ankit> my friend wanna install ubuntu warty on HDD: Maxtor One Touch 160 GB. Connected to USB port on IBM T-40 but the problem is it doesn't show up in the installation [partitioning page]
[05:40] <LinuxJones> vaijr2002, what are you trying to compile ?
[05:40] <vaijr2002> verlihub
[05:40] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: there was no comma between why and are ;-)
[05:41] <vaijr2002> it was tar.gz i extracted it went to dir, and did ./configure, then did make
[05:41] <kasper> does ubuntu update to kde3.3?
[05:41] <kasper> and does it run stable?
[05:41] <apokryphos> kasper: ubuntu hoary now has 3.4
[05:42] <Terrasque> how does ubuntu run with kde?
[05:42] <ankit> my friend wanna install ubuntu warty on HDD: Maxtor One Touch 160 GB. Connected to USB port on IBM T-40 but the problem is it doesn't show up in the installation [partitioning page]
[05:42] <Rene_S> kasper: seems to run quite well
[05:42] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, me vocabularie good :)
[05:42] <kasper> 5.4?
[05:42] <apokryphos> Terrasque: what do you mean, "how"?
[05:42] <goldfish> how well probably
[05:42] <apokryphos> Terrasque: if you mean quality-wise -- it runs very well.
[05:42] <ankit> what do I do???
[05:42] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: heh :)
[05:42] <kasper> fuckin cool
[05:42] <ankit> my friend wanna install ubuntu warty on HDD: Maxtor One Touch 160 GB. Connected to USB port on IBM T-40 but the problem is it doesn't show up in the installation [partitioning page]
[05:42] <ankit>  what do I do?
[05:42] <kasper> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18201
[05:42] <kasper> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16448
[05:43] <kasper> i love kde
[05:43] <kasper> i run it on my suse
[05:43] <ankit> hmmm...cant anyone help me puhleeeze ::my friend wanna install ubuntu warty on HDD: Maxtor One Touch 160 GB. Connected to USB port on IBM T-40 but the problem is it doesn't show up in the installation [partitioning page]
[05:43] <ankit> ::what do i do?
[05:43] <kasper> i hate gnome
[05:43] <kasper> ugly
[05:43] <vaijr2002> wierd no errors this time hehe
[05:43] <vaijr2002> brb
[05:43] <apokryphos> kasper: kubuntu users neither of those :)
[05:43] <Terrasque> apokryphos: like, will I lose any functions compared to running gnome? (since gnome is default, I'm assuming that gnome gets more focus)
[05:43] <EsK> i kno theres a bug in kde when u get it with fedora
[05:43] <kasper> i know but their nice
[05:43] <EsK> i dont get the message with gnome
[05:43] <thoreauputic> kasper: /join #kubuntu :)
[05:43] <apokryphos> Terrasque: the kubunut team is making sure that isn't the case.
[05:43] <kasper> thanx thoreauputic
[05:44] <vaijr2002> what is the extension of an executable file in linux
[05:44] <Terrasque> apokryphos: kubuntu and ubuntu is just two frontends for the same system?
[05:44] <vaijr2002> in win its exe
[05:44] <Terrasque> vaijr2002: chmod u+x
[05:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> there's none
[05:44] <thoreauputic> vaijr2002: not applicable
[05:44] <Xappe> vaijr2002, no extensions
[05:44] <apokryphos> Terrasque: kind of. See www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/kubuntu
[05:44] <Terrasque> k
[05:45] <vaijr2002> ok well i found where it installed/compiled to
[05:45] <vaijr2002> but the icon wont execute
[05:45] <thoreauputic> vaijr2002: what's the app? and the command?
[05:45] <vaijr2002> its verlihub
[05:46] <vaijr2002> and i dont know what ya mean by command
[05:46] <niciqy> When trying to enable Windows networking to access windows files in
[05:46] <niciqy> Network settings it tells me I do not have SMB support installed.
[05:46] <niciqy> What do I do now?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> vaijr2002: what command is issued to execute it from a terminal?
[05:46] <Terrasque> althru, met a weird bug in the install part (was in warty too). ethernet card is borked under install (but works perfectly fine if you reboot after the installation is done)
[05:46] <vaijr2002> dunno lol
[05:46] <Usiu> thoreauputic, Gimp is the most critical software for me!
[05:46] <vaijr2002> aint read that far yet lol
[05:47] <EsK> my gimp locks up on xsane
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Usiu: um... that's nice: why are you telling me though?
[05:47] <vaijr2002> i figured it out
[05:47] <Terrasque> thoreauputic: maybe he wanted you to know
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Terrasque: I guess so...
[05:49] <Terrasque> apokryphos: one quick question. If I do an ubuntu install and apt-gets kde, will there be any big differences between that and kubuntu?
[05:50] <apokryphos> Terrasque: join #kubuntu ;-)
[05:50] <LinuxJones> Terrasque, jsut install kubuntu-desktop and once you login to KDE your in kubuntu
[05:50] <Terrasque> LinuxJones: great :-)
[05:51] <thoreauputic> hehe - Usiu just vented his spleen about gimp in #ubuntu-motu
[05:51] <LinuxJones> Terrasque, that was easy :)
[05:51] <joskulj> hi. I just installed Hoary and I have 2 quite minor questions
[05:52] <apokryphos> Also, as an extra note... if you don't want all the things provided with kubuntu-desktop (it pulls in OpenOffice and a lot more things), then you can just gof or kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings
[05:52] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, yeah go that route
[05:52] <Terrasque> apokryphos: I'm just trying to figure out how many cd's I'll need ;-)
[05:52] <alec> joskulj, just ask
[05:52] <apokryphos> Terrasque: for what?
[05:53] <Terrasque> apokryphos: for ubuntu/kubuntu. If I can apt-get the difference, I don't need two cd's
[05:54] <apokryphos> Terrasque: that's right. You never need to download more than one ISO in your life with [k] ubuntu
[05:54] <niciqy> where can I get GTK?
[05:54] <joskulj> alec: ok: when I mount my usb-stick the desktop icon for it is labelled "SMFS1.0 ---". Can I change this somehow?
[05:54] <LinuxJones> Terrasque, actually you can do a custom install then upgrade to your choice. There are different version for folks who don't have high speed internet connections but want one or the other
[05:54] <thoreauputic> niciqy: apt-cache search gtk | less   (there'll be a lot of stuff)
[05:55] <CompotatoJ> Hey, how would I go about deleting grub off one hd and installing it on anotherZ
[05:56] <_Demian_> how do I Install a priner
[05:56] <_Demian_> printer
[05:56] <_Demian_> that is
[05:56] <CarlK_> CompotatoJ - install it on the 2nd and forget about the one of the 1st
[05:56] <thoreauputic> niciqy: you probably need to be a bit more specific about what part of GTK you actualy want
[05:57] <LinuxJones> CompotatoJ, you can backup the MBR using dd and then add it to your new harddrive and copy all necessary files like the kernel and grub files but it's easier to re-install to the new drive
[05:57] <CompotatoJ> How do I install grub inside ubuntu?
[05:58] <LinuxJones> CompotatoJ, it should already be installed unless you installed lilo or something
[05:58] <CompotatoJ> Typing with Dvorak is really hard! =]
[05:59] <thoreauputic> CompotatoJ: from the man page: grub-install - install GRUB on your drive
[05:59] <CompotatoJ> LinuxJones, it is, so how do I config it
[06:00] <CompotatoJ> ok thx thoreauputic
[06:00] <alec> joskulj, renaming it doesn't work?
[06:00] <LinuxJones> CompotatoJ, you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:00] <thoreauputic> CompotatoJ: the most important file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:00] <alec> joskulj, (i don't have a usb stick)
[06:00] <niciqy> how can i enable windows networking?
[06:00] <thoreauputic> grr... lag
[06:00] <LinuxJones> I have to split BB later
[06:00] <CompotatoJ> oh, but isnnt my /boot on the wrong hdZ
[06:00] <niciqy> how can i enable windows networking? keep having SNB support error
[06:01] <CompotatoJ> niciqy, its smb
[06:01] <thoreauputic> niciqy: you need samba and probably smbfs
[06:01] <niciqy> i install smbfs
[06:01] <niciqy> but still having the same error
[06:02] <thoreauputic> niciqy: and samba?
[06:02] <CompotatoJ> what is the errZ
[06:02] <niciqy> samba??
[06:02] <niciqy> how to install samba?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> niciqy: samba is the win network server
[06:02] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install samba
[06:02] <apokryphos> niciqy: I think there's stuff on ubuntuguide.org about it
[06:03] <goldfish> ther is
[06:03] <niciqy> okie
[06:05] <yhonatan> i need some help
[06:05] <robodex> hmm
[06:05] <goldfish> hello
[06:05] <robodex> anyone else having the problem where whenever you press the ' key in firefox the find menu opens?
[06:05] <yhonatan> i want to use universe
[06:05] <monteiro> anyone knows how i download the characters that is missing on my characters map ?
[06:06] <robodex> does it as well
[06:06] <robodex> err /
[06:06] <yhonatan> but when i open "synatipc
[06:06] <yhonatan> "
[06:06] <yhonatan> i get that message:
[06:07] <yhonatan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:07] <yhonatan> what i need to do?
[06:07] <Terrasque> yhonatan: clicked on "Reload" ?
[06:07] <yhonatan> amm..
[06:08] <thoreauputic> yhonatan: that line is wrong
[06:08] <thoreauputic> it should have spaces
[06:08] <thoreauputic> you need to re-edit it
[06:08] <yhonatan> what i need to edit?
[06:08] <deFrysk>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[06:08] <deFrysk> like so
[06:09] <ericb2> hi
[06:09] <yhonatan> what?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> yhonatan: the slash after hoary looks wrong
[06:10] <yhonatan> ohhh
[06:10] <thoreauputic> yhonatan: should be a space I'd say
[06:10] <thoreauputic> yhonatan: check the syntax of your other lines as well
[06:10] <ericb2> what is necessary to compile a new kernel from kernel.org on amd64 ? I have a strange scripts/kconfig/mconf: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by scripts/kconfig/mconf)
[06:10] <ericb2>  ?
[06:11] <ericb2> what is necessary to compile a new kernel from kernel.org on amd64 ?
[06:11] <jbailey> ericb2: Looks like someone has handed you a precompiled binary that wants a newer glibc than we have in Hoary.
[06:11] <ericb2> sorry... the begining was lost...
[06:11] <jbailey> ericb2: You need to build that from source.
[06:12] <ericb2> jbailey : hi
[06:12] <ericb2> jbailey : so is ther a line to add in /etc/apt/sources.;list ?
[06:12] <ericb2> s /ther/there/
[06:12] <jbailey> ericb2: No.  There's nothing you can usefully do on a Hoary or Warty system to make that binary run.
[06:12] <jbailey> ericb2: You need to ask whoever gave it to you for the source so you can build it yourself.
[06:13] <ericb2> jbailey : I ask here ?
[06:14] <jbailey> ericb2: Who gave you the thing that gives you that error message?
[06:15] <ericb2> jbailey : make menuconfig
[06:15] <Ratty> hi dudes
[06:15] <jbailey> ericb2: Sorry, from what program?
[06:15] <jbailey> ericb2: Is that something that Ubuntu has in it?
[06:16] <Ratty> bit of a newb q, when i set my clock to 12hr mode in gnome, it doesn't show am/pm on the end. how do i go about fixing this?
[06:16] <ericb2> jbailey : I have <IP_ADDRESS> sources, from kernel.org, because I wanted to build my on kernel
[06:17] <jbailey> Ah.  I don't know anything about building kernels.  But it looks like that package includes a binary and probably shouldn't.
[06:17] <ericb2> for now, uname -a give me :
[06:17] <ericb2> Linux lou 2.6.10-5-amd64-k8  #1 Tue Mar 15 14:42:38 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:18] <Ratty> is there a thing similar to "regional settings" in gnome?
[06:18] <ericb2> jbailey:  thank's :-)
[06:19] <jbailey> ericb2: maybe try running 'make clean' first or something.
[06:19] <thoreauputic> Ratty: strange that it doesn't show AM and PM
[06:19] <Ratty> yeah :/
[06:19] <jbailey> ericb2: Sorry I don't have better advice, I don't compile my own kernels.
[06:19] <Ratty> kinda annoying
[06:19] <Ratty> guess i'll have to get used to 24hr clocks
[06:19] <HiddenWolf> is there some terminal command that gives the kernel version / distro name?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> Ratty: indeed - I'm on warty and mine shows that OK
[06:19] <hannes_> uname
[06:20] <rewop> hello?
[06:20] <Ratty> what is the time format stored?
[06:20] <ericb2> jbailey : yes :-)) I was stupid -> make mrproper does it !!
[06:20] <goldfish> hi
[06:20] <hannes_> hannes@ylakone:~ $ uname -a
[06:20] <hannes_> Linux ylakone 2.6.10-4-686 #1 Sat Mar 12 11:12:34 GMT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:20] <apokryphos> HiddenWolf: what hannes_ said and cat /etc/version
[06:20] <ericb2> :-)  bye !
[06:20] <Ratty> where is the time format stored? even
[06:21] <thoreauputic> HiddenWolf: and cat /etc/issue
[06:21] <rewop> does anyone in here use bittorrent?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> tells you warty/hoary
[06:21] <rewop> and hoary?
[06:21] <apokryphos> whoops, that's it, yes. Eek, getting rusty.
[06:21] <hannes_> rewop: yes, azureus
[06:21] <Spooks> Ok, just downloaded & installed wine... but I can't get it to run, is there something I should do first before it will work?
[06:21] <Spooks> Or am I just stupid, kthnx
[06:22] <goldfish> rewop: use bitorrent on warty
[06:22] <hannes_> Spooks: you run programs via wine
[06:22] <Spooks> ah
[06:22] <rewop> goldfish: what do you mean? can't i do it on hoary?
[06:22] <Spooks> like, right-click, open with wine?
[06:22] <hannes_> so just wine /path/to/program.exer
[06:22] <thoreauputic> Spooks: you're just stupid *grin*  - I haven't used wine, but I believe you do `wine foo.exe `
[06:22] <hannes_> -r
[06:23] <goldfish> rewop: yep
[06:23] <goldfish> rewop: im just on warty, havent upgraded yet
[06:23] <rewop> goldfish: why?
[06:23] <goldfish> yo ucan
[06:24] <Ratty> :( i guess my clock is screwed
[06:24] <rewop> my problem is that only Gnome Bittorrent works.. and only sometimes.. i usually uses btlaunchmanycurses
[06:24] <goldfish> rewop: tried azureus?
[06:24] <Ratty> welp ta anyway. back to winblows
[06:24] <Ratty> bye
[06:24] <thoreauputic> Ratty: try this -  sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[06:24] <goldfish> back to windows?
[06:24] <hannes_> rewop: azureus is good
[06:25] <rewop> yeah in warty, but it's slowing down the computer..
[06:25] <goldfish> ah right
[06:25] <goldfish> what version of java did u have?
[06:25] <rewop> i dont know..
[06:25] <goldfish> kk
[06:25] <hannes_> depends of computer
[06:25] <philauge> hi
[06:25] <goldfish> i was told upgrading to java 1.5 stopped that from happening
[06:25] <goldfish> but i never tried
[06:25] <goldfish> it's fine for me
[06:25] <rewop> of course.. but my computer did.. thats why i used btluanch..
[06:25] <philauge> can anyone help me with libxinerama1 ??
[06:26] <goldfish> ah right
[06:26] <goldfish> hrmm...
[06:26] <sabmoc> anyone know of a good channel for web development on freenode?
[06:26] <rewop> now its allways like "connecting to peers" :(
[06:26] <rewop> but i can try to install azureus..
[06:27] <rewop> what receptories should I use?
[06:27] <goldfish> i think u get the .bin from azureus
[06:27] <deFrysk> receptories has a cool ring
[06:27] <deFrysk> to it
[06:27] <rewop> aha
[06:27] <goldfish> hehe, it does
[06:28] <Echylo> somebody knows a cool free game?
[06:28] <Terrasque> freeciv
[06:29] <Spooks> Netrek is kinda ok, was playing that last night
[06:29] <Spooks> Pretty basic though
[06:29] <goldfish> foobillard
[06:29] <goldfish> GNOME TETRIS !!!!
[06:29] <thoreauputic> frozen-bubble :)
[06:29] <Terrasque> enigma
[06:29] <deFrysk> tux-*
[06:30] <Terrasque> enigma have hours of high-quality fustration
[06:30] <goldfish> lol
[06:30] <Echylo> foobillard rules :p
[06:30] <spiral> hi
[06:30] <goldfish> it does :)
[06:30] <Echylo> hmm frustration games
[06:30] <Echylo> sounds cool
[06:30] <thoreauputic> xboard for chess freaks...
[06:30] <goldfish> oooh
[06:30] <goldfish> thoreauputic: does it have a learning mode by any chance?
[06:31] <confrey> hi everybody
[06:31] <goldfish> sure, i'll check it out anyways
[06:31] <goldfish> :)
[06:31] <goldfish> hi confrey
[06:31] <thoreauputic> goldfish: I have no idea :) It always beats me but I'm a hopeless chess player ;)
[06:31] <goldfish> thoreauputic: hehe
[06:31] <confrey> how can I use my camcorder with firewire? I installed kino, but it seems the camcorder doesn't exist
[06:32] <flawd> how do I download with jigdo?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> goldfish: I'm the one that lacks a learning mode I guess :)
[06:32] <flawd> it cant handle jigdo files it says
[06:32] <flawd> never used it
[06:32] <Terrasque> thoreauputic: yeah, me too. Once I had a long verbal fight with one on who lost. Both of us claimed he was the one who lost.
[06:32] <goldfish> thoreauputic: haha, i tried to learn before, hard game to master
[06:32] <Terrasque> you should see the face on the chess judge
[06:33] <Echylo> I like the idea of 3D chess
[06:33] <Terrasque> moments like those are truly priceless
[06:33] <thoreauputic> goldfish: I'm just not motivated enough
[06:33] <Echylo> three windows, X Y Z
[06:33] <Echylo> that's what they call 3D
[06:33] <goldfish> I need motivation!
[06:33] <goldfish> Echylo: VECTORS!
[06:33] <Echylo> that aint 3D :p
[06:33] <goldfish> u need them for 3d :)
[06:33] <Echylo> a X window & Z window & a Y window ;)
[06:33] <goldfish> well
[06:33] <goldfish> hehe
[06:33] <Ephemeral> wheres the grub.conf located agian?
[06:34] <Terrasque> I want to learn Go.. But never have the patience for learning
[06:34] <Echylo> menu.lsy
[06:34] <Echylo> ./boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:34] <Spooks> Diso?
[06:34] <goldfish> Terrasque: thats a cool game, there are very good online tutorials and networks for playing it
[06:34] <goldfish> i actually found a go board in a cupboard
[06:34] <goldfish> after trying to learn it on the computer
[06:35] <Echylo> what is Go ?
[06:35] <confrey> how can I use my camcorder with firewire? I installed kino, but it seems the camcorder doesn't exist
[06:35] <goldfish> Echylo: Hardest game in the world !
[06:35] <Echylo> computer game?
[06:35] <goldfish> Echylo: it's a board game
[06:35] <Echylo> ow :)
[06:35] <Ephemeral> how can i edit the grub conf again?
[06:35] <Echylo> oh*
[06:35] <Terrasque> goldfish: as I said, I want to learn it.. but I just don't have the patience :-(
[06:35] <Echylo> ephemeral
[06:35] <goldfish> Terrasque: hehe , me too
[06:35] <Echylo> its located in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:35] <goldfish> Echylo: u can play it ono the net
[06:35] <Ephemeral> yes but i dont have permision
[06:36] <Terrasque> goldfish: seen hikaru no go? :-D
[06:36] <goldfish> Ephemeral: sudo nano pathtofile
[06:36] <apokryphos> Ephemeral: sudo..
[06:36] <goldfish> or whatever editor u use
[06:36] <goldfish> Terrasque: nope
[06:36] <Terrasque> too bad
[06:36] <rewop> is it possible to edit wmv-files in linux? or just grab the sound from one?
[06:37] <c|one> I like to install tvtime 0.9.15 in my unbuntu is there a easy way to do that???
[06:37] <Terrasque> rewop: mplayer/mencoder?
[06:37] <unkwn> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/18/1421255&tid=172&tid=106
[06:38] <rewop> Terrasque: but can i for example cut a file with those?
[06:38] <Echylo> eph
[06:38] <Echylo> oh
[06:38] <Echylo> damn
[06:40] <robodex> hmmmmmmmmm...... I'm having a REALLY weird problem with my sound
[06:40] <_Demian_> can anyone help me with my printer :)
[06:40] <_Demian_> I installed the drivers
[06:40] <Nobuyuki`> hey guys, how can I get ubuntu to re-detect my monitor?  I want to change the hsync and vsync values but I don't know to what, all I know is that I switched from a crappy monitor to a crappier one and need to redetect the monitor
[06:40] <_Demian_> I can't get it to work
[06:40] <robodex> everything's set to minimum volume, and as soon as I put anything up it sets it back to minimum again O_O
[06:40] <c|one> is there a easy way to install software in unbuntu?
[06:40] <robodex> c|one: apt? :p
[06:41] <apokryphos> c|one: easiest way you can imagine :)
[06:41] <c|one> hmmm
[06:42] <DyGyTyL> heh, synaptics even easier, especially in the new release of ubuntu
[06:42] <Terrasque> c|one: tried synaptic?
[06:42] <goldfish> anyone running hoary on a 15.4" widescreen ?
[06:43] <kkathman> good day, could I get some help on how I might install KDE? I just installed ubuntu last night and love it!
[06:43] <Terrasque> goldfish: no, but was planning to do that right after the toaster
[06:43] <goldfish> Terrasque: haha
[06:43] <c|one> Terrasque: synaptic??? is that like a prog that does the compilling and installs for u?
[06:43] <unkwn> kkathman:  should have installed kubuntu
[06:43] <goldfish> well, i suppose I could have phrased it better :)
[06:43] <deFrysk> kkathman, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:43] <deFrysk> or something :S
[06:44] <Terrasque> c|one: its a program you click on the programs you want, click apply, and sit back and relax
[06:44] <robodex> ok that's really silly; GNOME is giving me sound but suddenly amaroK isn't working again
[06:44] <kkathman> ahhh ok I will try that thank you
[06:44] <Terrasque> (the relax part is optional, but recommended)
[06:44] <Spooks> haha
[06:44] <deFrysk> robodex, apt-get install gstreamer-amarok
[06:44] <c|one> Terrasque: sounds nice....
[06:44] <deFrysk> or the other way around
[06:44] <Echylo> god put a smile upon your face
[06:44] <robodex> deFrysk: no, it was working 100% fine ten minutes ago
[06:45] <Echylo> *whistles*-*sings*
[06:45] <robodex> (using amarok-xine)
[06:45] <jason> anyone notice any downloading problems with firefox? I can only use save as or it doesnt work.
[06:45] <deFrysk> robodex, set the engin of amarok to gstreamer in gnome
[06:45] <robodex> ok
[06:45] <robodex> well the volume thing was happening in xfce
[06:45] <deFrysk> and use esd output
[06:45] <deFrysk> if possible
[06:45] <thoreauputic> jason: known issue with hoary's firefox
[06:46] <tullinga> anybody know how I can fix this "Linux source tree /usr/src/linux is incomplete or missing!
[06:46] <tullinga>     The kernel header files are present, but not  the full source code.
[06:46] <tullinga>     See the HOWTO for a list of FTP sites for current kernel sources.
[06:46] <tullinga> Configuration failed
[06:46] <tullinga> make: *** [config]  Error 1
[06:46] <tullinga> "
[06:46] <jason> cool thanks thoreauputic, glad it isnt just me, I can wait :)
[06:46] <sig> See the HOWTO for a list of FTP sites for current kernel sources.
[06:47] <|QuaD-_> are the Bendy Badger repo's up yet?
[06:47] <jason> thoreauputic: it is pretty easy to forget I am running testing :)
[06:48] <^thehatsrule^> hi... er, id like to ask if the livecd also includes the install cd as well
[06:48] <Madiba> anyone know if incompatability problems with ubuntu live and nvidia geforce4 vid cards
[06:48] <tullinga> Sorry my application disconnected, anybody knows?
[06:49] <MobyTurbo> ^thehatsrule^, no
 See the HOWTO for a list of FTP sites for current kernel sources.  <-- tullinga it gives you the answer in the error
[06:49] <^thehatsrule^> oh, so ill have to get both? :<
[06:49] <sig> there is the HOWTO
[06:49] <tullinga> sig, so the problem is the kernel source?
[06:49] <maximaus> jason, I find the firefox from mozilla.org to be faster than the Ubuntu version.
[06:49] <MobyTurbo> ^thehatsrule^, only 2 isos, that's still less than most normal distros.
[06:50] <Madiba> any south africans in here?
[06:50] <sig> tullinga: i'm not sure, check that howto out it pasted to you
[06:50] <jason> maximaus: cool but if I wanted to keep up with all my packages I would LFS :)
[06:51] <maximaus> understood.
[06:51] <tullinga> sig, maybe dumb question. But where is the HOWTO?
[06:51] <sig> beats me dude
[06:51] <sig> hah
[06:51] <tullinga> sig, I am trying to install linux-wlan-ng. Do you know anything about that?
[06:51] <^thehatsrule^> well, yes but everyone has a lazy side ;p
[06:52] <jason> tullinga: what wireless card?
[06:52] <tullinga> jason, dwl-122, usb stick
[06:52] <^thehatsrule^> if i order a few cds, is it only hoary releases in april?
[06:52] <jason> tullinga: I got hostap to work dont think it supports usb
[06:53] <jason> tullinga: i think if you download the kernel sources
[06:53] <MobyTurbo> ^thehatsrule^, right, it's too late to order warty.
[06:53] <jason> then use the config from boot, and make && make modules
[06:53] <^thehatsrule^> :/
[06:53] <^thehatsrule^> ah well, ill go for the install cd then
[06:53] <jason> you can build the module
[06:53] <tullinga> jason, I did download the kernel source. But I dont know enough to compile the stuff or whatevere I need to do
[06:54] <^thehatsrule^> nice mirrors tho :)
[06:54] <^thehatsrule^> very fast
[06:54] <jason> tullinga:
[06:54] <MobyTurbo> ^thehatsrule^, don't worry, you'll be happy. :-)
[06:54] <^thehatsrule^> hehe
[06:54] <^thehatsrule^> wow... its so fast i think ill get the livecd too
[06:54] <^thehatsrule^> hehe, i hope i will be :P
[06:55] <tullinga> jason, sorry did not get the last thing there
[06:55] <jason> if you copy /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 /usr/src/linux/.config && cd /usr/src/linux && make && make modules
[06:56] <jason> you can build wlan-ng against that
[06:56] <jason> that was how I installed hostap
[06:56] <alec> jason, tullinga, you ought to be able to grab the modules as a .deb, no?
[06:57] <jason> I also needed to change the modules dir in the makefile
[06:57] <jason> alec: the deb modules are for a 2.4 kernel
[06:57] <jason> for hostap anyway
[06:57] <alec> ah
[06:58] <jason> and orinoco_pci is junk for my card
[06:58] <tullinga> alec, I dont know. considering the ndiswrapper instead, but dont know if that is going to be any easier.
[06:58] <spiral> hi back
[06:59] <jason> I think there is a ndis howto somewhere
[06:59] <goldfish> jason: ubuntuforums
[06:59] <tullinga> jason, yes it is
[06:59] <goldfish> or google
[06:59] <goldfish> there was a good link to one in the ubuntuforums
[06:59] <goldfish> i got it working from that
[07:00] <jason> tullinga: I had troubles with both hostap and wlan-ng
[07:00] <tullinga> but I know for sure the wlan-ng supports my usb dwl-122 . and therefore it is maybe best to go for that module???
[07:00] <jason> tullinga: the method I stated worked for hostap
[07:00] <philauge> can anyone help me with libxinerama1 ??
[07:00] <jason> havent tried it on wlan-ng
[07:01] <jason> what sucks is I need to go through the process every time ubuntu updates the kernel
[07:01] <tullinga> could I get away with that using the ndiswrapper_?
[07:01] <pinS> i need help with ndiswrapper
[07:01] <pinS> i dont think its installed right
[07:02] <sig> what file is mpeg2encode in?
[07:02] <jason> I never used it, but in theory it should work.
[07:02] <no0tic> pinS: why?
[07:02] <jason> just read carefully and take your time when going through the steps
[07:03] <jason> I also manually set up my card each time with iwconfig cause I hate gnome/ubuntus gui network setup tool
[07:03] <tullinga> so the problems with wlan-ng is mainly related to kernel stuff then.
[07:03] <[FiDO] > can someone help me with lirc
[07:04] <[FiDO] > I need to get my tv remote working
[07:04] <jason> tullinga: you just need to have compiled the sources to build against
[07:04] <jason> and the config file is in the boot directory
[07:04] <jason> you dont even need to install the kernel
[07:04] <tullinga> jason, i guess. but Im stumbling into so many errors and stuff its easy to give up.
[07:05] <Nobuyuki`> crap on a stick... I tried running xorgconfig to try and redetect my monitor, got the X and then a black scren
[07:05] <ren0> Hi I have had to get on the net with the livecd. Iam running hoary on the harddisk...
[07:05] <tullinga> jason, you mean I dont need the kernel for installing wlan-ng or?
[07:05] <jason> it took me 2 months to make friends with ubuntu for the same reason
[07:05] <jason> wlan-ng is a module
[07:05] <ren0> did an apt-get update & apt-get upgrade last night...
[07:06] <tullinga> jason, which means?
[07:06] <jason> so it needs the source code compiled
[07:06] <thoreauputic> Nobuyuki`: wrong tool -   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:06] <jason> it is a driver
[07:06] <thoreauputic> instead
[07:06] <ren0> Booted this afternoon and no X. Has this happened to anybody else?
[07:06] <jason> but needs to be compiled against the same config and source code as the kernel
[07:07] <calamari> ren0: luckily no, otherwise I'd have to use windows 2003, eew :)
[07:07] <tullinga> jason, ok. But the problem I get is happening when I do make config for the wlan-ng. during installation I get the error I pasted earlier
[07:07] <Fleebailey33> with this will java runtimes come with hoary or a future realese?
[07:07] <Fleebailey33> http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20050317SunWantsJavaasOpenSourceasPossible.html
[07:07] <Fleebailey33> there going to try to open source java
[07:07] <jason> paste it for me
[07:07] <Nobuyuki`> thoreauputic:  THANK YOU, will try it now
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Nobuyuki`: I hope the other tool hasn't overwritten the xorg.config - if it has, this one won't work, most likely
[07:08] <tullinga> it says "Build Prism2.5 USB (_usb) driver? (y/n) [n] : y
[07:08] <tullinga> Linux source directory [/usr/src/linux] :
[07:08] <tullinga> Linux source tree /usr/src/linux is incomplete or missing!
[07:08] <tullinga>     The kernel header files are present, but not  the full source code."
 Warty is as sound as a pound.
[07:09] <calamari> ren0: glad I'm sticking with Warty then :)
[07:10] <tullinga> installed? dont know :) i did download it and unzip it. it is the /usr/src/linux directory
[07:10] <jason> then you need to unpack and make a symbolic link to the src
[07:10] <jason> ok warty or hoary?
[07:10] <^thehatsrule^> who comes up with these names lol
[07:11] <Zotnix> Anyone else in hoary experiencing gnome-theme-manager using up 100% CPU and not displaying the little previews corrently (I'm getting a ? in them)
[07:11] <marcin_ant> hi all
[07:11] <thoreauputic> ^thehatsrule^: the amn himself I believe - mark Shuttleworth
[07:11] <thoreauputic> bah the man *
[07:11] <^thehatsrule^> the man?
[07:11] <thoreauputic> yes
[07:11] <^thehatsrule^> hehe
[07:11] <^thehatsrule^> i suppose hes the founder?
[07:11] <marcin_ant> I got a question - why ubuntu uses apt-get and not apt-rsync? what's wrong with apt-rsync?
[07:12] <ren0> There is probably something really obvious that I missed.
[07:12] <^thehatsrule^> whats wrong with apt-get then?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> ^thehatsrule^: he's the guy with the money and the founder, yes
[07:12] <tullinga> jason, the preview version. 5.04
[07:12] <keffo> where do i find a big ubuntu logo? imma write out some stickers.. it should be in good quality and great size
[07:12] <^thehatsrule^> ah
[07:12] <gambit> hello
[07:12] <jason> ok open a root terminal and type uname -a
[07:12] <jason> what does it say?
[07:13] <keffo> where do i find a big ubuntu logo? imma write out some stickers.. it should be in good quality and great size
[07:13] <marcin_ant> ^thehatsrule^: you need fast internet connection to get upgrades
[07:13] <marcin_ant> ^thehatsrule^: especially when you use hoary updates are pretty big
[07:14] <^thehatsrule^> oh i supppose i dont know what rsync is then
[07:14] <gambit> ppl can someone tell me how to use .deb packages?
[07:14] <^thehatsrule^> dpkg -i file
[07:14] <gambit> thank u
[07:14] <tullinga> jason, problem is I am in macos x now. I only have a wireless connection and need to reboot into ubuntu to do that. I have kernel version 2.6.10-4
[07:14] <marcin_ant> ^thehatsrule^: rsync is something that can copy from remote hosts
[07:14] <marcin_ant> ^thehatsrule^: but it copies only differences between files
[07:15] <^thehatsrule^> im not sure about it, but will check on google :P
[07:15] <^thehatsrule^> oh i see
[07:15] <^thehatsrule^> like the diff.tar.gz's?
[07:15] <jason> ok I would try this and then make config
[07:15] <jason> cp /boot/[2:#ubuntu(+cnt)]
[07:15] <jason> [#ubuntu]  cp /boot/
[07:15] <jason> not that
[07:15] <^thehatsrule^> then you cannot install rsync if you want to - using apt-get? lol
[07:15] <marcin_ant> ^thehatsrule^: http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/features.html
[07:16] <thoreauputic> ^thehatsrule^: of course you can :)
[07:16] <gambit> one more question... where can i get gcc compiler?
[07:16] <^thehatsrule^> so whats his problem? lol :P
[07:16] <^thehatsrule^> isnt gcc already in it?
[07:16] <thoreauputic> gambit: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:17] <^thehatsrule^> its not? :/
[07:17] <jason> cp /boot/config-2.6.10-4-386 /usr/src/linux/.config && cd /usr/src/linux && make && make modules
[07:17] <tullinga> jason, do that or not that?
[07:17] <jason> that
[07:17] <tullinga> jason , got it
[07:17] <pinS> i got ndiswrapper using a command from here last night
[07:17] <jason> then
[07:17] <jason> try the make config again
[07:17] <pinS> when i do ndiswrapper -l
[07:17] <pinS> it says theres a driver
[07:17] <jason> config may be onfig-2.6.10-4-ppc?
[07:18] <jason> will take like an 1/2 to 1 hour
[07:18] <tullinga> jason, yes it would be ppc. I will try it. back in an hour then :)
[07:18] <jason> good luck
[07:19] <pinS> whenever anyone has time, can you help me install my 802.11g nic
[07:19] <tullinga> thanks
[07:20] <pinS> im not sure whether anything is set write
[07:20] <goodoldunclemike> ? does ubuntu auto configure a network on install...where i can view it..or do i have to configure it
[07:20] <pinS> right*
[07:20] <pinS> goodoldunclemike, i think it does
[07:20] <pinS> did on mine
[07:20] <arek> goodoldunclemike: it does if you got dhcp on your network
[07:21] <arek> you can edit it by hand otherwise
[07:22] <goodoldunclemike> on my harddrive on this computer i have a 20 partition that i let the 2 windows computers use
[07:22] <pinS> i did make and make install from ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[07:22] <pinS> can i remove that ndiswrapper and use the one installed by the system
[07:22] <Sion_Barzhad> how do you kill a dir
[07:22] <pinS> rm -fr dir
[07:22] <Ribs> rm -rf dir
[07:22] <arek> sane package is to old to speak with my scanner :(
[07:23] <Sion_Barzhad> i just needed the know the firsdt to letter
[07:23] <Sion_Barzhad> aight rm
[07:23] <arek> debian had no problems ..
[07:23] <Sion_Barzhad> thanks
[07:23] <[-Soultrance-] > hey folks, what file has the list of available resolutions starting from 0 to X where 0 is the default resolution and where is the file ??
[07:24] <goodoldunclemike> witch is the better one of ubuntu..horty or worty
[07:24] <pinS> ok anyone want to jump ship my laptop and configure my nic for moi
[07:24] <pinS> :)
[07:24] <jason> goodoldunclemike: ubuntu is testing
[07:24] <Alex1> hi
[07:24] <Alex1> someone can help me?
[07:24] <Alex1> ERROR **: file gam_tree.c: line 146 (gam_tree_remove): assertion failed: (g_node_n_children(node->node) == 0)
[07:25] <jason> goodoldunclemike: warty is stable
[07:25] <Alex1> i've this msg
[07:25] <Alex1> x will be crash?
[07:25] <LinuxJones> Alex1, what are you trying to do ?
[07:25] <Alex1> nothing
[07:25] <goodoldunclemike> ok
[07:25] <LinuxJones> Alex1, when does that appear ?
[07:25] <Alex1> i'm writing a .php with gedit
[07:25] <jason> goodoldunclemike: hoary is testing rather
[07:26] <Alex1> can i copy shell msg on query?
[07:26] <pinS> testing, and i got it...
[07:26] <pinS> crap
[07:26] <billytwowilly> anyone else getting really slow updates?
[07:26] <kotatsu> billytwowilly: as in download speed?
[07:26] <pinS> brb
[07:26] <Alex1> LinuxJones, can i?
[07:27] <kotatsu> [-Soultrance-] : I think you're looking for /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:27] <Jesterace> man e17 is cool
[07:27] <[-Soultrance-] > nope
[07:27] <[-Soultrance-] > not those ones, hehje
[07:27] <Nobuyuki`> hey, do any of you guys know what to do if dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg refuses to overwrite xorg.conf because it's been "customized" ?  I'm sorry, total linux n00b here
[07:27] <billytwowilly> kotatsu, yah, download speed
[07:28] <[-Soultrance-] > theres one file that lists all your res from 0 to whatever the end number would be
[07:28] <kotatsu> Nobuyuki`: you could always move the xorg.conf file out of the way
[07:28] <Alex1> ** ERROR **: file gam_tree.c: line 146 (gam_tree_remove): assertion failed: (g_node_n_children(node->node) == 0)
[07:28] <Alex1> aborting...
[07:28] <Alex1> failed to read() from server connection
[07:28] <[-Soultrance-] > and 0 I beleive has an asterisk and is the default
[07:28] <LinuxJones> Nobuyuki`, 1 sec
[07:28] <Alex1> someone can help me?
[07:28] <kotatsu> billytwowilly: yes, it's kind of slow atm... hoary preview increased the load on their servers a lot (lots of switchers from warty, prolly)
[07:28] <kotatsu> billytwowilly: it will probably go back to normal after hoary is released and everyone has their copy
[07:29] <Alex1> it gave me this error 3 days ago
[07:29] <arek> [-Soultrance-] : yes its xfree.conf and xorg.conf
[07:29] <Alex1> and X was crashed
[07:29] <LinuxJones> Nobuyuki`, >> http://pastebin.ca/7707
[07:29] <Alex1> i reinstall hall
[07:30] <[-Soultrance-] > I have xf86config-4 and thats not the file I am refering too
[07:30] <[-Soultrance-] > I don't have xorg in
[07:30] <Nobuyuki`> thanks LinuxJones, I'm assuming cp = copy
[07:30] <gambit[n00b] > where can i get "glib"?
[07:30] <LinuxJones> Nobuyuki`, yes
[07:30] <billytwowilly> kotatsu, are there any plans to have a bunch of mirrors like mandrake et al have?
[07:31] <[-Soultrance-] > gambit: try apt-get install glib ?
[07:31] <Dakko> imo, the download link at the website's server is fast enough
[07:31] <xerox> Hi!
[07:31] <Dakko> Faster (to me) than you'd get with the next card
[07:31] <gambit[n00b] > apt-get install glib doesn't work
[07:31] <Dakko> Er, mirror
[07:31] <[-Soultrance-] > hmm
[07:31] <LinuxJones> gambit[n00b] , what do you want that for ?
[07:31] <kotatsu> billytwowilly: I don't know. I know debian has a large number of mirrors but I've always used archive.ubuntu.com... pinging it resolves the same IP address each time, so I assume it's not round robin like pool.ntp.org
[07:31] <xerox> Do you know how to change the language of the gaim spellchecker? I don't want it to check for english :(
[07:32] <[-Soultrance-] > I'm a n00b to, so I was only guessing :P
[07:32] <kotatsu> ubuntu is sponsored + community, so I guess they might have reasons for keeping it centralized *shrug*
[07:32] <LinuxJones> gambit[n00b] , midnight commander is available for download from the apt repository unless you need to compile your own
[07:33] <LinuxJones> gambit[n00b] , you will have to add the universe repository to get it tho
[07:34] <kotatsu> you can probably rsync your own repository though
[07:35] <LinuxJones> gambit[n00b] , are you runnign hoary ?
[07:36] <LinuxJones> gambit[n00b] , did you install the Warty or Hoary version of Ubuntu
[07:36] <LinuxJones> gambit[n00b] , if you type cat /etc/issue in console it will tell you if your not sure
[07:37] <Lamorack> o/
[07:38] <ruben> Hi
[07:38] <LinuxJones> gambit[n00b] , go here and use the synaptic directions >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-09-30.5359349801/view?searchterm=synaptic
[07:38] <Lamorack> =)
[07:38] <ruben> Does anyone know where to enable numlock at startup?
[07:39] <da_root> hi
[07:39] <ruben> hi
[07:40] <ruben> Does anyone know where to enable numlock at startup?
[07:40] <da_root> what have i to do when i want to start something on startup, means startup automaticly a script!??
[07:41] <Xappe> ruben, sudo apt-get install numlockx
[07:41] <jmki> ruben: my guess would be /etc/console-tools/config
[07:41] <jmki> ruben: add LEDS=+num
[07:41] <ruben> ah thx
[07:41] <vaijr2002> can anyone help a min . well hope it only takes a min
[07:41] <jmki> ruben: for X, use what Xappe suggested
[07:41] <vaijr2002> i am getting this error. i have searched forums but cant fixxie
[07:42] <ruben> ok
[07:42] <ruben> thx
[07:42] <vaijr2002> ERROR 1064 at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax.  Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 's Happy Haven cont.' WHERE 1 and file='config' and var='hub_nam
[07:42] <vaijr2002> verlihub
[07:42] <vaijr2002> sorry
[07:42] <vaijr2002> forgot about pasting in main
[07:42] <ruben> have been looking for a while ant it just wouldn't work :)