[01:08] <ubotu> johan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <gonzoism> johan__ don't paste stuff in here.  bad manners.
[01:09] <realo> hello?
[01:09] <luke__> can you help me indygunfreak?
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: i'm thinking.
[01:09] <gonzoism> johan  you can /msg it to me if your want.
[01:09] <luke__> kk
[01:10] <gonzoism> meh.
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: open synaptic, settings menu, then Repositories, then click on the THird Party Software tab.. what boxes are checked there?
[01:11] <realo> hello...  my s2ram suspend is broken since yesterday's kernel update.  anybody familiar with this problem?
[01:11] <luke__> hold on
[01:11] <mrynit> what does mkdir ~/.foo do? i cant see foo when i ls
[01:11] <noiesmo> mrynit, hidden folder ls -al
[01:12] <mrynit>  /. makes hiden then
[01:12] <noiesmo> mrynit, the dot does
[01:13] <noiesmo> mrynit, the ~/ donates current usrs home folder
[01:14] <realo> hello?  anybody familiar with ubuntu on laptops?
[01:14] <mrynit> why do i have 470 hidden floders in my home directory?
[01:14] <luke__> indygunfreak it dont have third party software tab
[01:15] <noiesmo> mrynit, a lot of apps and desktop manager stores files there
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> luke__:  hm, ok what is checked on the first tab
[01:15] <mrynit> nothing to be worried about then
[01:15] <Frogzoo> mrynit: ls -a
[01:15] <noiesmo> mrynit, nah
[01:15] <Frogzoo> mrynit: 470 is outlandish
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: wait a sec, you don't have a third party software tab?
[01:16] <Monteh> ello
[01:16] <mrynit> $ ls -al total 472 but it shows only around 30
[01:17] <Monteh> can anyone see me? lol i dunno if i regged properly
[01:17] <luke__> no i dont indygunfreak
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: well, that doesn't make any sense
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> regardless, whats checked on the first tab
[01:18] <noiesmo> mrynit, thinks 472 is prob just size in bytes
[01:18] <mrynit> k. how do i remove hidden folders?
[01:18] <nux_usr> Monteh:  You're seen.  :-)
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> i just did my third kernel update today.
[01:20] <Monteh> thanks nux_usr lol
[01:21] <realo> hello?  anybody familiar with ubuntu on laptops?
[01:21] <magnetron> mrynit: ctrl+h will make your hidden folders show
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> realo: kinda..
[01:21] <nux_usr> Monteh:  welcome
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> it shouldn't be much different from a PC
[01:21] <mrynit> magnetron, i was hoping to do it thru terminal
[01:21] <realo> ah! my s2ram suspend is broken since yesterday's kernel update.
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> s2ram?
[01:21] <squ1> something's wrong with my ppp connection...
[01:22] <magnetron> mrynit: ls -a
[01:22] <squ1> can i ask for that ?
[01:22] <WorldDomination> hey whats the best torrent client for ubuntu
[01:22] <realo> IndyGunFreak: yes, from uswsusp
[01:22] <Monteh> ok, ive been trying to install official disks, downloaded dvds, alternate install discs (all md5 checked), it all boots to the relevant menu, but wont go any further then that, ive tried noapic, nolapic, and irqpoll as flags, i really want this to install :( (centos installs flawlessly, so not sure whats going on there) can anyone help me :(
[01:22] <magnetron> !ask squ1
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask squ1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <WorldDomination> and best musicplayer ?
[01:22] <magnetron> !ask | squ1
[01:22] <ubotu> squ1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <squ1> ok
[01:22] <mrynit> magnetron, doesnt that just list all the folders
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: did you get lost?
[01:22] <squ1> when i connect to internet ,there're two ppp interfaces there.
[01:23] <realo> IndyGunFreak: yes, from uswsusp
[01:23] <magnetron> WorldDomination: many like rtorrent. exaile is good have i heard
[01:23] <squ1> ppp0 and ppp1 ,etc.
[01:23] <magnetron> mrynit: try it
[01:23] <WorldDomination> rtorrent ok
[01:23] <carajea1> Hey guys im have a little small itsy bitsy problem with ubuntu right now. For some reason it says my sound device is busy when i use amarok to play music while a play lord of the rings online. I dont remember it having a problem before but... is there a way to get around this so I can play multiple sound?????
[01:23] <WorldDomination> thanks
[01:23] <mrynit> i did but it just shows me the folders. i cant rm any that are shown
[01:23] <WorldDomination> and as music player what would you recommend ?
[01:24] <realo> I normally do <s2ram -f< to suspend my laptop . It works.  Since yesterday, it does not recover anymore.
[01:24] <magnetron> carajea1: yes, you need to use a tool called aoss (alsa-oss)
[01:24] <noiesmo> mrynit, rm -rf foldername
[01:24] <Gerro> there anything I can uncomment in # network protocols in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases that would boost performance for a user on normal ipv4 network?
[01:24] <realo> 's2ram -f'
[01:24] <carajea1> hmm please im new at this where would i get this app?? just apt get or what.
[01:25] <carajea1> or tool i should say
[01:25] <magnetron> WorldDomination: many like exaile, or beep media player. i prefere rhythmbox
[01:25] <magnetron> carajea1: use synaptic
[01:25] <carajea1> ok thanks a heap mag
[01:26] <carajea1> wait fiesty doesnt have synaptic
[01:26] <carajea1> it has that add/remove thingy
[01:26] <elkbuntu> carajea1, yes it does, but it is under system>administration
[01:26] <magnetron> carajea1: it has both. synaptic is in the system menu
[01:26] <carajea1> oohhh ok gotcha
[01:27] <squ1> when i get connection to the internet, there're 2 pppoe interfaces there.
[01:27] <WorldDomination> thanks a lot
[01:28] <squ1> can anybody point out that for me ?
[01:28] <carajea1> ok according to syn. its installed is there anything further on my end i have to do??
[01:28] <cassio> hello everybody
[01:28] <magnetron> carajea1: yes, you have to start the games with "aoss game-name"
[01:29] <|mix|> hi
[01:29] <cassio> does anyone know any program to recover deleted files?
[01:29] <magnetron> carajea1: you may have to edit your launchers/shortcuts
[01:29] <cassio> i' ve found "recover"
[01:29] <cassio> but it works only for ext3
[01:30] <carajea1> ummm.... i have to run lotro with a script to get it to play
[01:30] <carajea1> this game was very difficult to get going so the users on the ubuntu forums have come up with a script to get it running
[01:30] <UbuntuFeisty_> ol
[01:31] <magnetron> carajea1: you may have to edit that script then
[01:31] <magnetron> hellp UbuntuFeisty_
[01:31] <carajea1> maybe if i start my music first then start lotro then it will work cause i play with the sound off on the game i dont need to hear anything
[01:31] <magnetron> hello* UbuntuFeisty_
[01:31] <Frogzoo> squ1: usually you would only have one ppp connection, did one ppp session die?
[01:31] <wedontneed> when i open yahoo games i take this error from mozilla http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24844/   pls help
[01:32] <Monteh> ok, ive been trying to install official disks, downloaded dvds, alternate install discs (all md5 checked), it all boots to the relevant menu, but wont go any further then that, ive tried noapic, nolapic, and irqpoll as flags, i really want this to install :( (centos installs flawlessly, so not sure whats going on there) can anyone help me :( <---- update, ive tried removing all unecessary usb devices, and resetting my bios also. still wont boot
[01:32] <UbuntuFeisty_> I am not speak english, sorry.
[01:32] <magnetron> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:32] <magnetron> !pt
[01:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:32] <Psypher> hey everyone! i got a problem with trying to do a network install of ubuntu studio. even though i have followed all instuctions so that the install happens from an iso image mounted on another machine the network install wants to pull all the packages from the net. no broadband, no way!! please help!
[01:32] <UbuntuFeisty_> Obrigado
[01:33] <squ1> actually sometimes there's one the ,and other times there're two
[01:33] <ghata1> Hi, my sound has vanished all of a sudden, audio players report that audio plugin do not work. same with every other application. What has gone wrong ?
[01:34] <WorldDomination> hm cant find elaile or rtorrent in my "available software" list
[01:34] <wedontneed>  when i open yahoo games i take this error from mozilla http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24844/   pls help
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: has ALL your sound vanished, or can you just not play certain files, like MP3s, etc?
[01:35] <carajea1> it seems starting the music first then the game works
[01:35] <gcardinal> sorry for newby quastion, but is there a place where I can find complete manual on how to install LAMP with SQUAD/APC/Zend Optimize ?.. From a trustfull up to date source. I have found many on google, but they all kind of different and I am not sure wich on to trust
[01:35] <carajea1> so im gonna post up on the forums about this aoss thing and see if someone can edit the script to include it
[01:35] <magnetron> !lamp | gcardinal
[01:35] <ubotu> gcardinal: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:35] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: all of it is gone
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> is it muted?
[01:36] <gcardinal> I need also to install APC SQUAD and Zend Optimize...
[01:36] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: no it is not, when i try to slide volume silder up, it slides back to 0
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> e GAIM, I'll remove my ubuntu-desktop
[01:37] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I have looked through syslog, dmesg, and messages etc and nothing is shown there on why this happened
[01:37] <magnetron> gcardinal: i haven't heard of them. do they provide instructions? they should be accurate
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: right click your sound icon, and choose preferences, what is in that pull down menu?
[01:38] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: how do I verify that drivers are loaded etc, I have intel chip on board
[01:38] <gcardinal> yeah...
[01:38] <gcardinal> :/
[01:38] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: nothing, it is empty, there is just a file menu and that is it
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: it would appear your sound isn't configured properly, ope a terminal, and type lspci after you hit enter, see if you get a line similar to this..   02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12), if so, PASTE ONLY that line.. don't paste the whole output
[01:40] <ramanK> what's your idea? "What's the biggest advantage of ubuntu?"
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> to many to list,
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> not just ubuntu, but Linux in general.
[01:42] <Psypher> anybody got any ideas on why my network install want to download the packages from the net instead of the iso file mounted with tftp??
[01:42] <psst> ramanK: ease-of-use
[01:43] <Psypher> in my book the biggest advantage is apt-get and the MASSIVE repo ubuntu has
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: well, some distros, you can setup with Ubuntu repos, and its still a different distro(Linux Mint, for example)
[01:44] <kamikaye> well im back -.-''
[01:44] <ramanK> too nice !
[01:44] <kamikaye> i got a problem again
[01:44] <kwijibo> what's the console command that prints out distro name and version information?
[01:44] <roryy> kwijibo: lsb_release -a
[01:44] <psst> ramanK: I wouldn't list that as an advantage of ubuntu because I use apt-get on other linux distros and on Windows and MacOS
[01:44] <kwijibo> thanks
[01:44] <qaws> Hi, is any development tools for C++ and C# available in Ubuntu? I don't want only compiler, I want enviroment (something like Visual C# from Microsoft).
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: did you get lost?
[01:45] <Enverex> psst, ... sorry what, how the hell do you use Apt-Get on Windows?
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> Enverex: ?.. i dont think you can
[01:45] <Enverex> IndyGunFreak, Well obviously
[01:45] <Enverex> "<psst> ramanK: I wouldn't list that as an advantage of ubuntu because I use apt-get on other linux distros and on Windows and MacOS"
[01:45] <psst> Enverex: actually it's cyg-apt, but it's the same deal
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> Enverex: who suggested you could?
[01:45] <kamikaye> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide  i followed this guide and there is written that i need to make sure that  universe and multivers is enabeld how can i do this with 7.04??
[01:46] <magnetron> psst did, IndyGunFreak
[01:46] <roryy> qaws: you can try anjuta or kdevelop for c/c++; not sure about c#
[01:46] <Enverex> psst, Right, so your entire windows install is managed through a repo as are all the apps installed in it?
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> Enverex: oh i see... well, apt-get is an advantage of debian distros period, not just ubuntu.
[01:46] <kamikaye> can someone help?
[01:46] <roryy> qaws: perhaps monodevelop for c#
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: we aren't mind readers, state your question
[01:46] <magnetron> kamikaye: system > administration > repositories
[01:46] <wedontneed> when i open yahoo games i take this error from mozilla http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24844/   pls help
[01:46] <Psypher> IndyGunFreak: i followed instructions on many sites regarding network installs. they all say, setup dhcp, tftpd mount the iso you want to install, boot pxes and install. BTW the is ubuntu studio. all of that works till it coms to install packages, then it starts downloading
[01:47] <psst> Enverex: no - just some of it.  I write software.  No machine I use a lot is ever going to have ALL of its software managed by one package management system
[01:47] <kbrooks> psst, uh, why?
[01:47] <qaws> rorry: thank, i will try - it is in Add/Remove programs, or I must download it somewhere else?
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: what are you talking about?
[01:47] <kamikaye> you mean software sources?
[01:48] <qaws> yes
[01:48] <magnetron> kamikaye: yes, i don't have the english ubuntu
[01:48] <wyk> ubuntu-fr
[01:48] <unimatrix9> would you say that LPI is outdated, in terms of that its not up to date with the newest developments and ubuntu?
[01:48] <unimatrix9> what do you here think?
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: or you could just sudo apt-get update
[01:48] <kbrooks> unimatrix9, LPI?
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> if you've added the repo.
[01:48] <unimatrix9> yes LPI
[01:48] <kamikaye> is that all?
[01:49] <squ1> can any body tell me what's wrong with my internet connection ?
[01:49] <kamikaye> just sudo apt get update and i got those multiverse and universe things?
[01:49] <Psypher> i'm trying to do a network install of ubuntu studio ie not with a cd, but with the iso mounted on another machines using pxes
[01:49] <unimatrix9> linux professional institute certified ...
[01:49] <kbrooks> unimatrix9, when i put "<X>?", i usually mean "what's <X>?" :-)
[01:49] <psst> kbrooks: well - if I build a new piece of software on my machine it isn't installed by a package management system
[01:49] <unimatrix9> see above
[01:49] <unimatrix9> :P
[01:49] <kamikaye> indy?
[01:49] <kbrooks> unimatrix9, and i don't know -
[01:49] <squ1> sometimes when i got connection to internet ,there were 2 pppoe interfaces there.
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: if you added them yes...
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> read the instructions on that site, they are quite clear
[01:50] <kamikaye> i dont think i did so ... sry that im a total noob
[01:50] <unimatrix9> LPI is the standard you must have for working in the IT field , its an certificate to show your knowledge of linux
[01:50] <psst> kbrooks: secondly, if I download a tarball from an overnight build system, that hasn't been installed by a package management system either
[01:51] <unimatrix9> would you say that LPI is outdated, in terms of that its not up to date with the newest developments and ubuntu?
[01:51] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: sorry mate, I had to go down to get mail, here is the line you requested
[01:51] <ghata1> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: hang on a sec.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:51] <dank> SORRY , I FIRST USE IRC ,I'M NOT English speaking country which channel can i go
[01:51] <kamikaye> ubuntu
[01:51] <Cebrax> Hello all
[01:52] <unimatrix9> dank what lang do you speak?
[01:52] <dank> chinese
[01:52] <kamikaye> nice xD
[01:52] <kbrooks> !chinese
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <kbrooks> !cn
[01:52] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Open Synaptic, click Settings/Repositories, on the first tab, make sure proprietary drivers is checked, if it isnt, check it, and reload synaptic, then continue to follow the instructions on that page
[01:52] <kbrooks> dank:
[01:52] <squ1> !cn
[01:52] <dank> what's wrong?
[01:53] <rbanffy> Hi All. Are there any tricks to use APT::Default-Release in Ubuntu? I tried, but it appears to fail - it wants to install stuff from Gusty even while APT::Default-Release points to Feisty
[01:53] <kbrooks> !cn | dank
[01:53] <ubotu> dank: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:53] <dank> okay
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: are you using feisty?
[01:53] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: Yeps
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: was i helping you last night?
[01:54] <dank> ubotu ; there's some words i can't read let's dictionary lookup
[01:54] <kamikaye> hm
[01:54] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: not that I remeber
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> cuz i helped someone with this exact issue last night, do you have an acer travelmate?
[01:55] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: No, I have a Dell E520
[01:55] <kamikaye> im confused theres nothing with a driver
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[01:55] <Psypher> IndyGunFreak: u understand what i mean?
[01:55] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: What do you recon is the issue ?
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: well, a couple sites on that acer travelmate, nobody got it working.
[01:56] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I C
[01:56] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I am sure a reboot is going to fix this, but I am curious to know why the audio went away.
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: i don't even know what you're talking about... so by proxy, no i dont' know what you mean
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: then freakin reboot
[01:57] <alexander> ,
[01:57] <Psypher> have you never done a network install, like a deployemtn over lan
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> no
[01:57] <Psypher> have you install ubuntu studio?
[01:57] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit", System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[01:57] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: hehe cant, I am doing some remote stuff at my work place :)
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: no
[01:57] <Rix> 0.0
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> well, good luck
[01:57] <logixoul> Hi there. I have this line in fstab: "UUID=blahblah swap swap sw 0 0", but swap does _not_ get mounted at boot so I need to manually do sudo swapon /dev/hda3 to get it to work. How do I fix this?
[01:57] <Psypher> ok, thanks
[01:58] <kamikaye> i got the german ubuntu sry :) .. so what cross do i need to make there?  http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotook9.png  treiber is the german for driver but there's just nothing with a driver
[01:59] <psst> kbrooks: also, eclipse provides its own package management system, as does sametime, and java has webstart
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: well, i dnt know german, so i don't know what it means
[01:59] <psst> kbrooks: finally, I have several development utilities which I use via a system I wrote
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: that looks completely different from my rep-mgr...
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> so good luck
[02:00] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:00] <psst> kbrooks: so it's all far too entangled to unweave and migrate everything to apt
[02:01] <dchagwood> Does anyone here have a home network between a Mac and Ubuntu?
[02:01] <finalbeta> Cebrax: are you using suns java?
[02:01] <finalbeta> If not, use suns java
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: but i dont think that would explain the problem with gedit
[02:01] <Cebrax> finalbeta: how can I understand if i am using suns java
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: have you tried Ktorrent, for a Torrent client?
[02:02] <finalbeta> Cebrax: I gues syou could see where the symlink /usr/bin/java links 2
[02:02] <DudeManJer> I need assistance in terminal. Whenever I enter the password after typing in su - it always say my password is wrong even though I know it.
[02:02] <Okan> hi
[02:02] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: I'm considering the gedit an unrelated issue
[02:03] <dchagwood> Is anyone here good with home networking?
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: yeah, probably, i was just gonna suggest mousepad.
[02:03] <Okan>  dflmdlfmlsdf
[02:03] <Okan>  dflmdlfmlsdfdsfsdfsfsdf
[02:03] <Okan>  dflmdlfmlsdfdsfsdfsfsdfsdfsfsdfsdfsdf
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> Okan: ?
[02:03] <Okan> :D
[02:03] <Okan> I am turkey
[02:03] <Okan> :D
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> don't be ignorant... it'll get you ooted
[02:03] <Stewie_> dchagwood, I am new to Ubuntu, only seen Linux for the first time today but with Windows I am good
[02:03] <finalbeta> dchagwood: I don't have a mac in my home network. The mac should be able to access the samba shares you make, and you can share files the same way in mac
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> booted
[02:04] <Okan> D:D
[02:04] <Cebrax> finalbeta: yes i think, here is what it links to : /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java ...
[02:04] <qaws> I use anjuta and it still writes error: no executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command         - where should I use it?
[02:04] <Cebrax> Okan: Ltfen kanal kirletme
[02:04] <DudeManJer> How do I fix the root password in terminal with su command?
[02:04] <finalbeta> Cebrax: that's weird, start azureus from the terminal. Does it give any errors
[02:04] <finalbeta> ?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> fix it?... whats wrong with it.
[02:05] <dchagwood> I've tried different things.  I've tried SAMBA and Apple Talk with Netatalk.  I don't know how to activate the Netatalk.
[02:05] <Okan> Cebrax trkmsn
[02:05] <Okan> ?
[02:05] <finalbeta> DudeManJer: there is no su in ubuntu, root is not used. Use sudo -i to get a root shell
[02:05] <dchagwood> The Mac sees the Linux machine but can't connect.
[02:05] <Okan> mIRC Script'imiz Yenilenmitir. Trke mIRC 6.2 [iStannbuL Script]  Artk Sizlere Sunulmutur indirmek iin link'imize Tklamanz Yeterlidir ->  www.canimsin.net/mirc.exe  www.iStannbuL.Com - [ By mR ]
[02:05] <finalbeta> dchagwood: can't connect how. Connect to what?
[02:06] <qaws> I use anjuta and it still writes error: no executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command         - where should I use it?
[02:06] <dchagwood> I can, however connect the linux machine to the mac.
[02:06] <DudeManJer> Alright.
[02:06] <Cebrax> finalbeta: I've tried that too, it hangs just like "sudo gedit" command do.
[02:06] <DudeManJer> Thank you final beta.. I was gonna download java
[02:06] <elkbuntu> !tr > Okan, please see the PM from Ubotu
[02:06] <dchagwood> I can connect the Linux machine to share the Mac HD.
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: regarding gedit, have you tried another text editor, like mousepad?
[02:06] <Okan> mIRC Script'imiz Yenilenmitir. Trke mIRC 6.2 [iStannbuL Script]  Artk Sizlere Sunulmutur indirmek iin link'imize Tklamanz Yeterlidir ->  www.canimsin.net/mirc.exe  www.iStannbuL.Com - [ By mR ]
[02:06] <elkbuntu> !tr > Okan | please see the PM from Ubotu
[02:07] <finalbeta> Cebrax: so there is no output on the terminal?
[02:07] <dchagwood> I can't connect to the designated share folder from the Mac, though.
[02:07] <boyet> m mesenger is best for feisty
[02:07] <finalbeta> Cebrax: can't help you then, try the forums.
[02:07] <Cebrax> finalbeta: yes, besides it hangs
[02:07] <dchagwood> It just appears but can't connect.
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: hve you tried any other torrent clients w/ success
[02:07] <Cebrax> finalbeta: will it be bad to post my question here again?
[02:07] <finalbeta> Cebrax: no
[02:08] <Okan> mIRC Script'imiz Yenilenmitir. Trke mIRC 6.2 [iStannbuL Script]  Artk Sizlere Sunulmutur indirmek iin link'imize Tklamanz Yeterlidir ->  www.canimsin.net/mirc.exe  www.iStannbuL.Com - [ By mR ]
[02:08] <Cebrax> IndyGunFreak: I think it is not a problem with auzerus..
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> he's spamming the channel
[02:08] <Cebrax> Okan: olum k lan u kanaldan
[02:08] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install nx server on my xubntu?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: well, what makes you think that?
[02:09] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:09] <Cebrax> IndyGunFreak: here is what makes me think.. lots of apps doesn't start :(
[02:09] <finalbeta> Cebrax: are you using the azureus from the repositories? If so, try the one from the sourceforge site, and visa versa
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: i don't know, what version of Ubuntu are you using
[02:09] <qaws> I use anjuta and it still writes error: no executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command         - where should I use it?
[02:10] <Cebrax> IndyGunFreak: 7.04
[02:10] <finalbeta> dchagwood: I see there are some bugreports on launchpad about browsing shares from a MAC. Perhaps you can search through them.
[02:11] <finalbeta> !launchpad
[02:11] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:11] <dchagwood> Actually, right now my mac will flash the network folders then they disappear.  Setting up a network on my mac is easy, but I'm new to Linux.
[02:11] <dchagwood> Okay.  What's the address?
[02:11] <finalbeta> !launchpad
[02:11] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/
[02:11] <boyet> where can we find an application with free sms sending
[02:12] <dchagwood> Okay.  Sorry.  I'm new to IRC as well.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ also
[02:12] <finalbeta> Sharing folders from gnome is pretty bad. It's the crippled gnome way of doing it again.
[02:12] <kbrooks> ping
[02:13] <dchagwood> Well I'm trying to work with Gnome or KDE.  I like more things about KDE than Gnome.
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> dchagwood: KDE is just to slow.
[02:14] <finalbeta> dchagwood: things look kind off grip for browsing samba shares from mac. Not sure if it's a mac issue or ubuntu, but since ubuntu uses samba it's probably ubuntu's problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6364
[02:15] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:15] <dchagwood> Don't get me wrong.  I thing Gnome is awesome it just looks like I can do more with KDE unless there is more to Gnome than I see.
[02:15] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: I'm a gnome user, but I find my gnome menu's to be way slower then the KDE ones and lack configuration. I don't think kde is still slower. Though it was.
[02:15] <WeeJeWel> Is there any way i can run .scr screensavers in linux?
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> dchagwood: its 6 on one, half dozen on the other, you can do anything under Gnome, that you can kDE.
[02:16] <finalbeta> No you can't...
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: i guess its all personal experience, i think KDE moves at a snails pace compared to gnomel
[02:16] <WeeJeWel> where are the screensavers located anyway?
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: well, maybe not *anything*, but anything relevant.
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> to me anyways
[02:17] <dchagwood> You know I did see that I was able to run many KDE specific apps in Gnome.
[02:17] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: that's weird.  Yet kde moves much faster. Media players, the whole platform is moving at light speed with kde4
[02:17] <kamikaye> i got another question
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: well, i think KDE is an eyesore also,
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> but i also find it slower than gnome, a lot slower
[02:17] <kamikaye> does someone know how i can update eclipse?? i always get this  Visual Editor (1.2.1.v20060817_M-zXJUB0fxM-0vSdc) requires feature "org.eclipse.emf (2.2.0)", or compatible.
[02:17] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: yep, I'm hoping 4 fixes that. If so, many will convert.
[02:18] <thomax> hi y'all
[02:18] <thomax> anyone got an idea what tools to use to backup encrypted dvd's?
[02:18] <thomax> !dvd
[02:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: yeah, probably.... i guess thats the freedom of choice.
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: i really like Xfce also.
[02:18] <Psypher> also dvdbackup does an excelent job of ripping from dvd to hdd and decrypting
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> its a racecar vs. a pinto compared to the other two.
[02:19] <daedra> pinto
[02:19] <daedra> lol
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[02:20] <WeeJeWel> !lilo
[02:20] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, sound in xchat gnome is not workin fors ome reason
[02:21] <daedra> heard about the multiplatform openoffice virus?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: no,
[02:21] <daedra> it uses xchat/mIRC to spread itself
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: lol.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> what type of damage does it do?
[02:22] <daedra> its a proof-of-concept virus
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: i see... and the concept is?..
[02:22] <daedra> which just spreads, so as to show that its coded to work on MacOSX, Linux and Windows
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> awesome, i hope i get it..lol
[02:23] <Cebrax> daedra: it is not a place to talk about them
[02:23] <MattJ> Hi all. I installed a custom version of a package from source, using checkinstall. Now the update notifier keeps telling me it needs updating to the latest Feisty version. Is there a way to stop this?
[02:23] <kbrooks> Cebrax, oh really
[02:23] <daedra> come to ubuntu-offtopic
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> MattJ: why not just upgrade to feisty?
[02:25] <MattJ> I'm using Feisty
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, well, just do the update.
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know.
[02:25] <scarvell> anyone here good with PHP?
[02:25] <MattJ> No, that would overwrite my package, read what I wrote :)
[02:25] <scarvell> im having a php server problem i need a hand with
[02:25] <daedra> <? no ?>
[02:26] <Cebrax> MattJ: what happens when you click on Check button
[02:26] <MattJ> Cebrax: It keeps telling me that I should update to the version in the Feisty reps
[02:26] <scarvell> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2810720#post2810720
[02:26] <Cebrax> MattJ:  pff :( that's awful .. sorry I cannot help :(
[02:26] <MattJ> :(
[02:27] <Duff> HELP!!PLZ!!
[02:27] <Duff> ive got grub 17 problem
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> Duff: google Grub 17
[02:27] <Duff> formated the HD and I cna't run any of the bot CDs
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> bot cds?
[02:27] <Duff> boot CDs
[02:27] <scarvell> Duff, change your BIOS settings to boot from CD?
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> yup
[02:28] <Duff> have done so it wont work, formated all 3 HD and still get grub 17 error
[02:28] <scarvell> ...
[02:28] <cBau> never even heard that one before
[02:28] <scarvell> as i said
[02:28] <scarvell> change your boot options
[02:28] <kraft21> HI all ! It the first time i try Linux and ubuntu and so far everything is ok(with some googling).But i have one problem i cannot solve.I m connecting to the internet with a wireless card and while i can surf and download with max speed,i cannot use torrents.Everytime it starts to download and then i loose my connection.Any tips? I already tried sudo ethtool -k wlan0 but nothing... :(
[02:28] <scarvell> its booting from hard drive first
[02:29] <ubuntu_> i need help
[02:29] <scarvell> kraft21, move closer to your LAN?
[02:29] <scarvell> * WAN
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> kraft21: what torrent client?
[02:29] <scarvell> blah
[02:29] <scarvell> router?
[02:29] <scarvell> wifi
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> someone else was having that problem last night.
[02:29] <scarvell> thats the word im looking for
[02:29] <ubuntu_> i need help i wanna get shockwave player how do I
[02:29] <varka> Duff: Be sure to check your root(x,y) settings in your grub.conf.
[02:29] <johnnytang24> wtf.  My power went out and now when I reboot, ubuntu hangs right after Running /scripts/init-bottom. done.
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> !shockwave
[02:29] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:29] <kraft21> i have tried lot of clients. I dont have any problem with xp
[02:29] <Duff> how do I get Grub 17 error to stop showing so I cna load windows, heck I wouldn't mind if it let me load ubuntu again
[02:30] <r_a_f> kraft21:try ktorrent
[02:30] <r_a_f> ahh
[02:30] <scarvell> r_a_f, kde ftw
[02:30] <kraft21> also the problem is that torrents kill my connection
[02:30] <johnnytang24> scarvell : are you allowing mail forwarding from your mail server?
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> thats what i would do, ktorrent is the best torrent client
[02:30] <kraft21> i already tried ktorrent
[02:30] <scarvell> johnny_, its just installed. I dont know what to change to enable mail forwarding
[02:30] <r_a_f> scarvell: ;) but its working
[02:30] <scarvell> * johnnytang24
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> kraft21: have you configured your firewall?
[02:30] <johnnytang24> scarvell : what mail server did you install?
[02:31] <kraft21> yeap ports are open
[02:31] <scarvell> i installed sendmail
[02:31] <johnnytang24> scarvell : you have to enable relaying from your local ip
[02:31] <scarvell> and just installed postfix
[02:31] <[agatha] > morning here :D
[02:31] <scarvell> neither work
[02:31] <Duff> please help me out I need to install either OS on my comp but after reformating nothing is happening still got grub 17
[02:31] <scarvell> johnnytang24, how in the heck do i do that?
[02:31] <borg7_> I have a LTSP setup w/ 2 NIC's but I want an XP machine to get DHCP from the LTSP server... how can I make the XP machine connect to the internet?
[02:32] <Duff> i can't change to MRB tcause i dont know how to do so
[02:32] <johnnytang24> scarvell : try using the sendmail command from the command line
[02:32] <Plantain> Hey all, I've got a box that I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows, (currently completely blank). Which should I install first, Windows or Ubuntu?
[02:32] <jpotex> Ive heard that ATI has released a new driver for linux. Do any of you know if it works with 7.04?
[02:32] <cBau> Duff: Your BIOS option is after GRUB?
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : lol, you sure don't sleep long
[02:32] <scarvell> johnnytang24, syntax?
[02:32] <scarvell> sendmail [...]
[02:32] <[agatha] > hahah IndyGunFreak  like 10h or so :P
[02:32] <johnnytang24> scarvell : don't remember
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> brb
 so what do i ahve to change in the BIOS to stop grubing from giving an error it stops any of the OS i ahve from loading
[02:33] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?
[02:33] <borg7_> Plantain - Windows then Ubuntu
[02:33] <cBau> If you change it to boot to CD first, it should read the CD before it ever goes to GRUB
[02:33] <Tom47> Plantain maybe you should consider installing windows inside vm in ubuntu that way you can switch to windows without rebooting though 3D is not available if you go that way
[02:34] <kraft21> and the strange is that when i try to download a torrent,i have to reconnect to the router because it kills my connection.I read that some had the same problem and that it was bug of tso(tcp segmentation offload).
 have done so it still picks up GRUB
[02:34] <cBau> Duff: very odd...
[02:35] <cBau> How about....
  I know its weird but that is what it does and my CDs dont get picked for boting, erased the main HD 3 times with no result
[02:35] <cBau> disconnect your hard drive, start up with only CD
[02:35] <cBau> just a guess
[02:35] <finalbeta> Duff: for some strange reason ubuntu set up grub wrong then. boot from the live cd, and manually set up grub.
[02:35] <cBau> I've never tried it
[02:35] <borg7_> or use super grub disi
[02:35] <borg7_> disk*
[02:35] <cBau> there's an idea, prolly better than mine
[02:36] <scarvell> fuckiing linux
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:36] <scarvell> its a total bitch
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> !ohmy
[02:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:36] <scarvell> i love it
[02:36] <IdleOne> !language | scarvell
[02:36] <ubotu> scarvell: please see above
[02:36] <scarvell> bleh
 & <borg7_> prdon what should i do this is messed I need the comp to be working
[02:36] <cBau> for shame :)
[02:36] <scarvell> IndyGunFreak, since when is ii a real word?
[02:36] <scarvell> ;)
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> ii?
[02:36] <WeeJeWel> can i replace a screensaver with a command that should be executed instead of the screensaver?
[02:36] <scarvell> fuck ii ng
[02:36] <scarvell> ;)
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> geez.
[02:37] <scarvell> well
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> byebye
[02:37] <scarvell> heh
[02:37] <Plantain> Tom47: I'd considered that, but I figure I'll be for more likely to run 3D under windows than 3D under linux
[02:37] <scarvell> thats not fair :P
[02:37] <ompaul> no - mind how you step
[02:37] <scarvell> you asked >_<'
[02:37] <cBau> Duff: If I were to get all crazy, I'd grab a spare HDD
[02:37] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:37] <cBau> Duff: And try to see if it will boot from CD then
[02:37] <lerio> lp y cant i see usplash during boot-up
[02:38] <ompaul> !u
[02:38] <Tom47> Plantain Ok .... personally then i would install windows first as linux is more otheros aware
[02:38] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[02:38] <Pelo> WeeJeWel, the ansswer to your questions is probably yes,  most stuff can be done command line in linux, what command is an other question altogether
[02:38] <Plantain> Tom47: Gotcha.
[02:38] <Duff>  <cBau> pardon I have no clue what youre telling me to do
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: i couldn't agree with you more
[02:38] <cBau> Duff: Are you running a laptop or desktop?
[02:38] <Plantain> Should I partition first, or let Ubuntu's partioner do it later?
[02:38] <WeeJeWel> Pelo, it's wine /blabla /S
[02:39] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, well my toleration for edge cases is low :-/
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol, mine to.
[02:39] <ompaul> !nickspam  > Toolskyn (please check the message from the bot)
[02:39] <finalbeta> Then you shouldn't be on IRC.
[02:39] <cBau> Duff: Just thinking.... grab another and test your boot process to see if it's the specific HDD that's giving you a problem. Or, throw that problem HDD in another computer and scrub it good then try again
[02:40] <nzhomie> how to get tcl to work with amsn
[02:40] <nzhomie> please help me ?
[02:40] <Tom47> plantain be realistic and at the same time dont give excessive hard doisk space to windows ... this consideration you need to work out in the light of yr expected use of it just remember you can share partitions between linux and windows
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> !tcl
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <IdleOne> !INFO TCL
[02:41] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> whas tcl?
[02:41] <nzhomie> tls
[02:41] <ompaul> tkx8.3
[02:41] <roryy> !info tcl8.4
[02:41] <ubotu> tcl8.4: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.14-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1136 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[02:41] <IdleOne> nzhomie, do apt-cache search tcl
[02:41] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:42] <Plantain> Tom47: I've got a 40GB internal which I'll split evenly, then 320GB of storage
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> Plantain: why not just put windows on the 320, then Linux on the 40?
[02:42] <nzhomie> what am i looking for in the output in the terminal
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> thats how i learned linux, for a couple years
[02:43] <yellow_chicken> how to find the owner or country location of a given ip address?
[02:43] <kamikaye> im back
[02:43] <kamikaye> i solved the driver problem
[02:43] <orbisvicis> are the ide cdrom drives hda & hdb linked together ?
[02:43] <cBau> wewt
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> yippeeee
[02:43] <kamikaye> but now the catalyst control center doesnt start
[02:43] <nzhomie> ???
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:43] <cBau> stupid ATI
[02:43] <kamikaye> -.-''
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> ati sucks.
[02:43] <kamikaye> hell yeah
[02:43] <Tom47> Plantain hard disk is not an issue for you then :)
[02:43] <kamikaye> yeah but nevertheless i want to make it work
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> buy an Nvidia card, and you'll have ubuntu driver nirvana
[02:44] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken,  try system>administration>network tools
[02:44] <kamikaye> -.-''
[02:44] <kamikaye> my ati card was expensive enough
[02:44] <Plantain> IndyGunFreak: I need/want maximum speed on the 320, so I'd rather not boot off it
[02:44] <cBau> Plantain: I like your idea, split the 40, roll 320 storage, sounds like a winner
[02:44] <Duff>  <cBau> sorry back had to answer the door, im in my neighbours comp asking for help on fixing my comp
[02:44] <orbisvicis> has anyone got amarok to detect & play cds in both drives ?
[02:44] <cBau> Duff: Gotcha, you have only 1 computer?
[02:45] <zipper> I have an Intel HDA onboard soundcard and a Soundblaster Audigy 4 soundcard. The Intel HDA is set as default, but i want to use my audigy card instead... How to do this?
[02:45] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: what?
[02:45] <kamikaye> so does no one of u know why if i klick on the control center button it doesnt start?
[02:45] <sahil> so how do i play a game in linux through WINE ?
[02:45] <yellow_chicken> there's nothing there, nothing useful
[02:45] <kamikaye> i know i had the same problem with windows but there i needed to install net framework
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> sahil: depends on the game
[02:45] <Zorlin> sahil - sudo apt-get install wine
[02:45] <orbisvicis> zipper, you can always turn off the onboard in bios
[02:45] <Zorlin> if you don't have wine
[02:45] <ompaul> !wine | sahil
[02:45] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken,  you asked how to identify an IP address?
[02:45] <ubotu> sahil: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:45] <Zorlin> then you'd usually nav to the directory [command line]
[02:45] <sahil> Conflict :Desert Strom II
[02:45] <ompaul> !enter > kamikaye (please read the message from the bot, thanks ;-) )
[02:45] <sahil> its old
[02:45] <Zorlin> and type wine locationoffile
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> sahil: some games work great, some barely work, alot work not at all.
[02:46] <Zorlin> like, wine /opt/programs/example.exe
[02:46] <Duff>  <cBau> yeah only one comp
[02:46] <zipper> orbisvicis: seems a bit overkill.... It must be possible from within linux
[02:46] <krishghosh> I have a question. Can I transfer the contents of Ubuntu 7.04 live CD to my 1 GB pen drive and use it for installation?
[02:46] <Zorlin> most wont work
[02:46] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: ah.. ok, i see
[02:46] <kamikaye> k sry
[02:46] <yellow_chicken> thanks
[02:46] <Zorlin> krishgosh, yes
 I would see if you can find a GRUB disk... or another MBR solution... there are several.
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> Zorlin: as long as pokerstars works, i don't care..lol
[02:46] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken, so try system>administration>network tools
[02:46] <nzhomie> anyone using amsn?
[02:46] <krishghosh> Zorlin: Can you please explain ... how?
[02:47] <Zorlin> Krish, hang on
[02:47] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel
[02:47] <Gerro> spike_s: you here? sorry was afk when you were messaging me. WIsh you luck, read that book though its kinda boring.
[02:47] <kamikaye> so no one has any idea why the control center doesnt start? has no one got a ati card?
[02:47] <Stormx2> !usb | krishghosh
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <sahil> does the game need to be installed on Linux some how
 I have no idea why it won't boot CDs if you chose it in the BIOS... perhaps disconnect the hard drive and see if it will boot a disk then
[02:47] <Stormx2> Hmm.
[02:47] <Plantain> nzhomie: on occaisions (not under ubuntu however)
[02:47] <sahil> or just run through the terminal
[02:47] <ompaul> !bootoptions | johnnytang24
[02:47] <ubotu> johnnytang24: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:47] <orbisvicis> zipper, should be but i dont know how hmm
[02:47] <dreadscore> hello, is there a packages source that has squid 2.6 for dapper?
[02:48] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: faster with just 'whois' at commandline
[02:48] <nzhomie> plantain : i can't get tsl or tcl working with 0.97
[02:48] <Plantain> Duff: I just had the exact same problem and it turned out I had both the HD and the CD drive on the same power jack (a splitter halfway), and the CD drive wouldn't spin up because it was short of power or something
[02:48] <Plantain> nzhomie: ahh, like I said, I did it under a different OS
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: can you start control center from the menu?
[02:48] <nzhomie> did you just apt-get it ?
[02:48] <kamikaye> from menu?
[02:48] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken,  indeed it is - but i dont know you're level of expertise - so i headed for the lowest common denominator - a GUI and simple instructions
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> there's  not a menu entry for it?
[02:48] <zipper> orbisvicis: me neither... tried switching master channel and stuff, but no luck so far
[02:49] <kamikaye> yes there is and with that entry i tried it
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[02:49] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: i was expecting a web page to do the job.  cause i used once a long time ago
[02:50] <dave-ubu> you can use www.whois.net ?
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> what happens when you right click you desktop?... if i recallc orrectly, under Windows, catalyst center, all the menus and crap came up when i right clicked my desktop(under windows)
[02:50] <gtfx> is there a reason why installing NVIDIA drivers is such an issue?
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> gtfx: lol,Nvidia is easy....
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> ATI is the problem
[02:50] <kamikaye> if i right klick theres nothing
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[02:50] <cBau> esplain thyself please gtfx
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: not even the normal menu?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia | gtfx
[02:51] <ubotu> gtfx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:51] <kamikaye> of course theres a menu but nothing with catalyst and ati
[02:51] <gtfx> well, the way i see it. Used to have ATI on my HP laptop
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: ok.
[02:52] <gtfx> well no matter which one of the methods i choose i still get the "Failed to load NVIDIA module"
[02:52] <dreadscore> bye
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: i assume you restarted after installing the driver.
[02:52] <kamikaye> already did so
[02:53] <dave-ubu> kamikaye, which video card is it ?
[02:53] <kamikaye> x1900xt
[02:53] <orbisvicis> zipper, it has to do with alsa ... run alsactl --help, backup you old snd card config, then install asoundconf-gtk, hopefull that will work, i dont know ?
[02:53] <justdave> Anyone know if the Netgear GA311 is a supported wired network card on Ubuntu?  It's not listed on the wiki, but the Netgear page looks like it hasn't been updated in a year or so.
[02:53] <chombee> If I'm upgrading from Dapper->Edgy then from Edgy->Feisty, do I need to restart the computer inbetween the two upgrades?
[02:53] <dave-ubu> and you installed which package? nvidia-glx ?
[02:53] <justdave> the FA311 is listed, which makes me suspect it probably is, but I figured I'd ask before I go spend money on it :)
[02:54] <cBau> Probably so, because of the new kernels | Chombee
[02:54] <justdave> FA311 is 100 Mbit, GA311 appears to be the same with Gigabit
[02:54] <zipper> orbisvicis: i'll try that, thanks
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: just boot a live cd and see if it connects to the internet..
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> if it does, then the card is supported..ll
[02:54] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel, and I tried all the boot options
[02:55] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: Don't have the card in my possession yet.
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> oh.
[02:55] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: have to spend money to get it, that's why I was asking first ;)
[02:56] <justdave> it's on sale right now at Circuit City (and I'm in quick need of a Gigabit card) so it'd be a quick way to get one
[02:56] <justdave> guess I can always return it if it doesn't work, and add it to the wiki if it does :)
[02:56] <Paine> quick need?
[02:56] <Sijmes_> Hello
[02:56] <yellow_chicken> how to clear xterm buffer, so that when i scroll up, it will only scroll up to the point were i cleared the buffer
[02:56] <chombee> thanks cBau
[02:57] <Sijmes_> Can anyone please help me with a problem
[02:57] <robgrant> Is there anyway to install linux-image-generic instead of linux-generic to a clean target when using 7.04 alternate install?
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[02:57] <justdave> suppose I'm not that desperate, just getting tired of it taking so long to move files to my network storage (which is shared from the huge drive on the Ubuntu box) when copying between all the other computers on my LAN is so quick :)
[02:57] <Sijmes_> my window borders have dissapeard whilst using beryl ...?
[02:57] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: yeah, I'm looking at that already.
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> well, easiest thing tod o, is get one on the list
[02:57] <krishghosh> anyone uses 7.04 ?
[02:57] <justdave> that's what I said above, the GA311 isn't listed on the Netgear page.
[02:58] <rjune> Which repository is non-free?
[02:58] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: are you around ?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> rjune: multiverse
[02:58] <Shinji> hello
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: yes
[02:58] <justdave> doesn't say it's not supported either, though, so probably nobody's tested it yet (or hasn't reported it anyway)
[02:58] <Paine> I'm about to create a new partitiion on my 2nd HD for ubuntu, how much space should I give it (approximately)?
[02:58] <Shinji> when I use Beryl, I can't use the gnome feature "always on top' why?
[02:58] <justdave> Ubuntu's been good to me, suppose it'd be worth the hassle to be the guinea pig and find out. :)
[02:58] <rjune> Hobbsee: thanks, packages refer to non-free repo, but it's not listed anywhere
[02:59] <Hobbsee> !codecs > rjune
[02:59] <Hobbsee> rjune: usually a debian term
[02:59] <rjune> Hobbsee: looking for lha actually
[02:59] <robgrant> paine see my pm
[03:00] <rjune> I also went looking for kubuntu as the wiki says to install it for KDE.
[03:00] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I have made some progress, reboot did not fix the problem, however i was not memeber of admin group, after adding myself to that group I can not execute applications using sudo, If i start something using sudo, it works fine, sounds works fine. But nothing works if i try it as my normal user. Looks like something to do with permissions
[03:00] <Paine> robgrant: I don't see it o.o
[03:00] <rjune> that package doesn't seem to exist either.
[03:00] <orbisvicis> zipper, also see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499520 --- you dont need asoundconf-gtk (though it makes life easier) b/c asoundconf is already installed..
[03:00] <justdave> I'm basically picking from what's available at the local stores, because I didn't feal like mail-ordering it, and that's the only gigabit card I've found on sale locally.
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: i have no idea.... sorry
[03:00] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: fair enough
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: whats your budget?
[03:01] <justdave> "within reason" :)
[03:01] <justdave> the GA311 that I found so far is $25
[03:01] <justdave> ($24.99 actually)
[03:02] <robgrant> paine: you there?
[03:02] <Paine> yerp
[03:02] <Paine> don't see your pm though :|
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: well, i know its not what you asked..., but   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsDlink  look at the DGE-530T, then go here..  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=686143&sku=D700-2242
[03:02] <robgrant> paine: you pm'me
[03:03] <Paine> I pm'd you after you said you'd pm'd me to say I couldn't see your pm :P
[03:03] <Paine> that's a lot of 'ds
[03:03] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:03] <[agatha] > hum IndyGunFreak  any clue which is the path where the file (still dunno which one) is in my computer? trying to handle ed2k links with firefox but im feeling nuts :P
[03:03] <robgrant> paine: still have your pm open
[03:03] <Shinji> when I use Beryl, I can't use the gnome feature "always on top' why?
[03:04] <ompaul> Shinji, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : ed2k?
[03:04] <justdave> $5 cheaper, but I bet it costs that $5 to ship it. :)
[03:04] <[agatha] > yup trying to make firefox open them but no way :P
[03:04] <orbisvicis> so anyone know how to make amarok detect both /dev/hda and /dev/hdb for "play audio cd"
[03:04] <[agatha] > says something about a path where a file is installed in the computer but i dont know where that file is
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: yeah,  but my point is, it looks like its confirmed to work "out of the box" with feisty, and its not expensive
[03:04] <toddobryan> Easy and stupid question: I know there's a way to set up a directory so that anything saved in it inherits the owner and group of the directory. I thought it was chmod ug+s, but I have directories with permissions drwsrws--- and files saved into them are getting the user who created them as an owner rather than the owner of the directory.
[03:04] <robgrant>  Is there anyway to install linux-image-generic instead of linux-generic to a clean target when using 7.04 alternate install?
[03:04] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: yep.
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : have you tried a system search?
[03:05] <rjune> so is lha included in feisty fawn?
[03:06] <robgrant> rjune: I think there are alot of ha's in ff
[03:06] <[agatha] > yup a sudo find / - file *ed2k* something like that, only 2 ,gif as result :S
[03:06] <justdave> TigerDirect wants $7.50 to ship it in 7 days, $15 for 2 days
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> I need help my laptop seems to becoming very hot "sensors" in a terminal reads 78 degrees!!!
[03:06] <justdave> hmm, decisions decisions. :)
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> and the fan is going constant now
[03:06] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : try using Places Menu/Search for files, and set the pulldown menu to Filesystem
[03:06] <[agatha] > oki
[03:06] <justdave> that's still reasonable, so do I want to wait? :)
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: lol, i know.
[03:07] <robgrant>  Is there anyway to install linux-image-generic instead of linux-generic to a clean target when using 7.04 alternate install?
[03:07] <orbisvicis> 78 f isnt hot, 78 C is about 8 deg above red line
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: dlink is fairly popular, maybe a local electronics store(best Buy, compusa, etc) has that card in stock.
[03:07] <rjune> packages.ubuntu.com says it's there, but add/remove doesn't find it
[03:07] <justdave> the open source purist in me is telling me I should go ahead and get the Netgear one *because* it's not listed (either positively or negatively) on the wiki and get a definitive answer put on the wiki for it.
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> panic is setting in and I will not be recommending ubuntu or linux to a soul if it "breaks" your hardware
[03:08] <gdi2k> greetings. I have a fresh install of feisty, it's working nicely. However, I want to manually configure my network interfaces using /etc/network/interfaces, but network-manager keeps interfering with things. Is there a way to disable it?
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: lol, what are you saying it broke?
[03:08] <rjune> I'm assuming I need to update the apt cache, how do I do that within the gui?
[03:08] <justdave> thanks for the input :)
[03:08] <[agatha] > hum again the same results just 2 gifs -.-
[03:08] <orbisvicis> Paddy_EIRE, 78 f isnt hot, 78 C is about 8 deg above red line
[03:08] <[agatha] > ill try in amule room i think
[03:08] <sc0tch> Is Thunderbird 2.0.0.x available for Ubuntu 6.10? I did not see it in repo's, and looks like 1.5.x is installed by default.
[03:08] <Hobbsee> justdave: check what chipset is on it
[03:08] <Hobbsee> sc0tch: no it isnt
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> orbisvicis, win never never reads that hot
[03:08] <Hobbsee> justdave: the netgears can often be hell.
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : are you still trying to get amule working?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> justdave: but then, some of the dlinks are using ralink chipsets, which can be pains too - you want something with an atheros chipset
[03:09] <toddobryan> Ahhh....
[03:09] <justdave> the confirmed-working one on the wiki is a netsemi.
[03:09] <[agatha] > nah amule works pretty find... i just cant click on ed2k from the way, says firefox hasnt any protocol associated to those files
[03:09] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, no, but this is so so disappointing, disillusioned by linux is how I feel
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: well, whats the problem
[03:10] <Thead> Hi all is someone there
[03:10] <toddobryan> It turns out that setuid on a directory works on FreeBSD and I'm migrating from a Mac OS X system. Hmm... now I'm not sure what to do.
[03:10] <mar77i> Hi all. I'm expierencing strange random pause activation in the game lbreakout2 in Single Player mode - which means I'm not connected to a server.
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, cpu temp is 78 degress all of a sudden
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : ed2k, thats still a mystery to me, what sort of file is that?
[03:10] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE: What's the problem? sorry, I just joined. Laptop running hot?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> justdave: go with that one, then
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: lol, and you blame that on ubuntu?
[03:10] <orbisvicis> Paddy_EIRE, is it C or F ... if its hot its a fan most likely, those are controlled by the bios
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, ofcourse
[03:10] <rinky> anyone know how I can check what version of fuse I have installed?
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: i don't say this often, but... Stick with Windows, Linux is not for you
[03:11] <justdave> that's the 100mbit card though.
[03:11] <[agatha] > the elinks used in the amule/emule protocol IndyGunFreak  its how you download files with emule/amule... normally its just enough clicking from the website so they get into your a/emule but not here... no protocol asociated to handle them... found something in the amule wiki but dunno where the heck is that directory i have to add :P
[03:11] <Thead> ubuntu is more for newbies then ever i thing
[03:11] <Thead> k
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, if you cant help then clear of please
[03:11] <Plantain> Is there a partitioner build into Ubuntu 5.1 ?
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: well, you're being silly, and you know it.
[03:11] <gdi2k> Paddy: is it a laptop?
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : hang on, im' gonna install amule
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, dont be so smug about a situation that I should not be in
[03:12] <[agatha] > thanks IndyGunFreak  :D
[03:12] <rjune> can anyone explain why apt-get shows a package, but add/remove does not?
[03:12] <GrueTamer> rjune: apt-get has more packages than add/remove
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: lol, ok... have a nice day, remember, Start Programs, whatever
[03:12] <rjune> add/remove from the menu is just synaptic, right?
[03:12] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, no what, you really are not helping could you either help or go away
[03:12] <Thead> try synaptic that list all packs
[03:12] <rjune> GrueTamer: it's not just a frontend to apt?
[03:12] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, twat
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:12] <GrueTamer> synaptic is in the system>administration panel
[03:12] <aroo> Keep your quibbles out of this channel.
[03:12] <orbisvicis> !offtopic | Thead , no most things need to be done from command, just ubuntu tends to work outa box
[03:12] <ubotu> Thead , no most things need to be done from command, just ubuntu tends to work outa box: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> i'm not quibbling.
[03:13] <Thead> ok ok :D
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> i just don't understand how ubuntu is to blame for a laptop overheating, thats all.
[03:13] <rjune> Why would you hide packages like that? expecially ones that are referenced in the docs and on other, listed packages
[03:13] <rinky> what's paddy's problem exactly, I dont feel like scrolling up :)
[03:13] <orbisvicis> :P
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, zealotry really is ugly
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : send me a link to one of those ed2k files, or whatever
[03:13] <orbisvicis> hey, overclocker what do you use to overclock from with linux ie not bios ?
[03:13] <[agatha] > hum sec
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, its far from perfect and YOU know it
[03:14] <GrueTamer> rjune: i personally dont know anything about add/remove besides that its easy to use, and that it doesnt show all of the packages in apt
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: i guess thats in the mind of the person at the PC.., but Windows is far from perfect also.l
[03:14] <overclocker> hi, i'm trying to enable the java plugin in firefox in feisty, i'm using jdk6 in amd64, does this works?
[03:14] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, Im not debating that
[03:14] <ompaul> !nickspam  > charclo  (please check the message from the bot)
[03:14] <[agatha] > IndyGunFreak,  here i paste? :S
[03:14] <[agatha] > or where? :S
[03:14] <justdave> ok, the chip on the GA311 is an RTL8169
[03:14] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE, ignore Indy and look at fixing your problem. generally these laptops only get hot if the processor is under constant strain - what does the system monitor tell you about CPU usage?
[03:14] <ompaul> !paste | [agatha]
[03:14] <ubotu> [agatha] : pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : yeah, you can just paste the link if you want
[03:15] <[agatha] > ill use pastebin sec
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> is it that long/
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[03:15] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, Im saying that an OS should not break hardware!! plain and simple otherwise no one but uber geeks should use it I mean come on
[03:15] <[agatha] > IndyGunFreak,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24851/
[03:15] <justdave> which google is telling me has been supported in Linux since early 2.4 kernels
[03:15] <[agatha] > no not really but i have somekind of aversion about pasting ed2k... some habits cant go :S
[03:15] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, does it work with other software?
[03:15] <justdave> so that sounds like a reasonable expectation that it'll probably work
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: well, linux has never broken my hardware
[03:15] <gdi2k> don't worry, it won't break your hardware. the pc will shutdown before anything goes up in smoke
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : i see...lol
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, I suddenly have to be a programmer to use an os, with win this never happened in all my years with it
[03:16] <[agatha] > hehe IndyGunFreak  :P some places you get nasty stuff pasting ed2k links in open channel... been a long time attitude :D
[03:16] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: you dont have to be a programmer to use an os
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: ok.. relax
[03:16] <aroo> Paddy_EIRE do you need any further support?
[03:16] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, please be aware you have strayed offtopic
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> aroo, yes!!
[03:17] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE: what does your system monitor say about cpu usage? is it maxed out?
[03:17] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I have received nothing but fan boy arquments after asking a question about temp
[03:17] <Paddy_EIRE> 1 sec
[03:18] <OuZo> !php
[03:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:18] <johnnytang24> I need help booting past 'Begin: Running scripts /scripts/init-bottom'
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, yes
[03:18] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, some people have asked you three times what about your system indicators .. please look at them and engage with them
[03:18] <rjune> GrueTamer: Even after installing the package, add/remove doesnt' show it. that's seriously screwy
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I had
[03:18] <intima> hey, is digital (optical) audio working in feisty on AC'97 Audio Controller integrated sound?
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, this conversation will take all day can you help
[03:19] <GrueTamer> rjune: i believe that add/remove has a specific list of packages that it shows
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE> or not
[03:19] <gdi2k> that's your problem - find out what app is causing 100% cpu usage - maybe it's an app that's locked up
[03:19] <intima> the analogue outputs work but not the toslink digital one
[03:19] <radhy_nherox> hay
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : it almost looks like that link is bad, where did you get the link?
[03:19] <gdi2k> my laptop gets damn hot when I play chess on hard level - when the CPU is maxed out constantly
[03:19] <gdi2k> it's normal
[03:19] <five_star> hey guys, is there a way to make a program always open up on a certain workspace?
[03:20] <[agatha] > hum in my amule xD
[03:20] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: look under system monitor -> Processes tab and you can see what is causing your CPU to max out... (see % CPU column)
[03:20] <[agatha] > ed2k links are just shown with a right click on the file you have alreadydownloaded
[03:20] <[agatha] > they come with it
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : type this command, no quotes... "/join #indygunfreak"
[03:20] <zoidberg> hey guys
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, nothing indicates heavy cpu usage in there
[03:20] <hatter> is there a good gnome xorg configurator ?  instead of haveing to stuff around with the xorg.conf by hand ?
[03:20] <zoidberg> isnt there a way to access DRAM or something....for computers with low ram so they can access memeory properly or directly for DVD playback?
[03:20] <ShackJack> But you say your system monitor is showing 100% usage?
[03:21] <overclocker> could i enable the java plugin in firefox in amd64?
[03:21] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: But you say your system monitor is showing 100% usage?
[03:21] <graveson1> i intended to use ubuntu as a linux media center on an old pc.after a month of struggling to get the tv out to work,can anyone recommend a good approach or another way to go about this
[03:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, yes thats correct
[03:21] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: Did you click %CPU column to sort top to bottom?
[03:21] <five_star> graveson1: I don't know of anything that can help you at this moment, but the creators of the xbmc (the xbox media center for hacked original xboxes) is being ported to linux
[03:22] <five_star> *are porting it
[03:22] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE: re-order the process list by CPU usage by clicking on the tab that reads "%CPU" so that the apps consuming the most are at the top
[03:22] <kilosux> ubuntu-fr
[03:22] <orbisvicis> overclocker, i believe youll need blackdown 1.4 java, kinda buggy & old, but only thing that works w/ 64 bit ... and it wont conflict with say 32 bit java 1.6 if already installed
[03:22] <orbisvicis> Paddy_EIRE, you can also open a terminal and type top
[03:23] <ShackJack> orbisvicis: I wouldn't suggested that but you know how scared ppl are of the terminal ;)
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Still nothing is showing up as heavy processes???
[03:23] <orbisvicis> ;
[03:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, top seems good actually
[03:24] <orbisvicis> ^^
[03:24] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, do ps auwx >foo then paste the contents of foo into the pastebin
[03:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, almost ever single process says 0 and has sleeping next to them
[03:24] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, can you give us your load average - the numbers on the top right when running "top"
[03:25] <graveson1> five_star:thanks, i am going to try mythic tv now and then knoppix, i am really dissapointed as my main linux server is ubuntu and i am really happy wiith that
[03:25] <DJ-_-> well I am stuck at changing the time..Anyone?
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste | Paddy_EIRE
[03:25] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: Elaborate please?
[03:25] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: how do i set the date and time
[03:26] <orbisvicis> DJ-_-, right click calendar and say adjust date and time, and if its still messed up make sure you arent synched to a time server
[03:26] <DJ-_-> where can i find calendat
[03:26] <DJ-_-> calendar*
[03:26] <orbisvicis> DJ-_-, what version ?
[03:26] <DJ-_-> got it
[03:26] <DJ-_-> settings
[03:26] <intima> hey, is digital (optical) audio working in feisty on AC'97 Audio Controller integrated sound? the normal analogue jacks work but not the toslink one.
[03:26] <magnetron> DJ-_-: system > administration > time & date
[03:27] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, you should also check out if your CPU is scaling down correctly. To do this, right click on an empty space in one of your Gnome Panels at the top of the screen, choose "Add to Panel", then choose the "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor"
[03:27] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: Though I usually keep a clock in my gnome panel and then you can right click as orbisvicis said...
[03:28] <mar77i> help
[03:28] <Paddy_EIRE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24854/ ompaul gdi2k ShackJack
[03:28] <ShackJack> mar77i: just ask question...
[03:28] <orbisvicis> yep
[03:29] <DJ-_-> ok thx
[03:29] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel, and I tried all the boot options..  I don't know where to begin fixing this problem.
[03:30] <sahil> anyone know how to set-up the icons so that they work in cairo-dock
[03:30] <orbisvicis> graveson1, i know if you use twinview you can setup up xorg.conf to setup tv-out, (and then you'll have to get tv to open on that display), but then again i dont know much about tv-out, so
[03:31] <shy_man> hello
[03:31] <shy_man> serious problem help please
[03:31] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, did you check out the frequency scaling? Turns out that mine has stopped scaling down on my desktop too since the latest kernel upgrade. Can anyone else confirm? I'm using AMD64 dual core
[03:31] <sebrock> it's no problem running a Ubuntu box without a graphic card right?
[03:31] <ShackJack> shy_man: just ask question...
[03:31] <mar77i> ShackJack: in several games, got several games that pause at (as far as I can tell) random occasions - and LostIRC got lags of about 1.5 sec
[03:31] <DJ-_-> is it normal for ubuntu on xfce to take 15secs++ to hibernate on a 2.4ghz 1.5gb ram
[03:31] <hhb> hi
[03:31] <shy_man> I am new using Ubuntu
[03:31] <DJ-_-> lets make that 20++
[03:31] <ShackJack> mar77i: Not to me to board, please...
[03:31] <DJ-_-> shy_man welcome
[03:31] <shy_man> I installed some libs not really knowing what they were
[03:31] <sahil> shy_man, nice to have you on board
[03:31] <shy_man> now when I start X I can see nothing:/
[03:32] <ShackJack> shy_man: don't use return so much...
[03:32] <graveson1> orbisvicis: i have tried that(numerous howto's on ubuntuforums) but no luck.
[03:32] <DJ-_-> Shackjack: is it normal for ubuntu on xfce to take 20secs++ to hibernate on a 2.4ghz 1.5gb ram
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> new users should be told that there maybe a possibility that ubuntu can break your stuff or at least reduce its life dramatically due to overheating (if thats all thats going on, Im really beginning to wonder) this was not made clear
[03:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, your machine is being weighed down at some level with this:  5899 6021 6023
[03:32] <shy_man> not only X i can't see
[03:32] <mar77i> in several games, got several games that pause at (as far as I can tell) random occasions - and LostIRC got lags of about 1.5 sec
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:32] <DJ-_-> Paddy_EIRE?"
[03:32] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: I can't say... I don't use XCFE though I know that Hivernate is flakey in general...
[03:32] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE - you grumble a lot but don't take any of the suggestions
[03:33] <orbisvicis> graveson1, you have to have nvidia for that to work ...
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> DJ-_-, yes?
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> DJ-_-: just sit there and watch in amusement..lol, he gets pretty defensive
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:33] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: what about boot times...also 25++
[03:33] <ShackJack> IndyGunFreak: don't bait...
[03:33] <graveson1> orbisvicis: not nvidia chipset.i have an intel 195
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't
[03:33] <graveson1> orbisvicis: not nvidia chipset.i have an intel i195
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, i have taken them all, cpu 2ghz and 100%
[03:33] <DJ-_-> IndyGunFreak: i see
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> i was warning DJ-_-
[03:33] <shy_man> ?
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, I am within my rights
[03:33] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: GO to services and uncheck services you don't use - that can improve things..
[03:34] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: ok i will give it a try
[03:35] <huascar80> hi, i got a question...
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I have no idea what that number is all about?
[03:35] <thoreauputic_> !ask
[03:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:35] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, kill wine and see if it works better
[03:35] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, you have one of 2 problems: you have an app that is consuming 100% of your CPU resources (which isn't clear either way from your top paste) or your CPU is not scaling down as it should. These CPUs should scale down to a fraction of their speed when not in use, and if yours isn't it will run hot
[03:35] <DJ-_-> is disabling gdm and kdm safe...i am on xfce
[03:35] <djy__> where can down ati Revenue drevie
[03:35] <huascar80> is it possible t olet nautilus show images as thumbanils without caching on my hd till it gets full!!!
[03:35] <huascar80> ?
[03:36] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: You can remove those if you're using the XFCE login thingie...
[03:36] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: i dont know if youd want to do that...it should be SAFE, but id keep those, for your sake
[03:36] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, sudo killall wine ?
[03:36] <DJ-_-> ok
[03:36] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: I guess the thumbnails have to lib=ve somewhere ;)
[03:36] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE, I would disable your desktop effects until you get this sorted to rule that out
[03:36] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, already have
[03:37] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, that is one way, you can kill the programs it is supporting i,e, your torrent stuff and as gdi2k says kill off the extras like desktop effects
[03:37] <huascar80> thoeaoeutci: lib=ve? sorry newb here
[03:37] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: sorry typo for "live"
[03:37] <thoreauputic_> :0
[03:37] <duaneb> ok
[03:37] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: still don't get it..
[03:37] <Yggdrasil> can somone plese tell me how to increase this size ? devshm                 30M     0   30M   0% /dev/shm
[03:37] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: I mean, thumbnails take space - no way around that I guess
[03:37] <huascar80> ah
[03:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, wine: no process killed
[03:38] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE, does your CPU scaling apples say that scaling is unsupported, or does it look normal (it should have little lines in the graph)
[03:38] <Yggdrasil> can somone plese tell me how to increase this size? lrm                    30M   26M  3.6M  88% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-386/volatile
[03:38] <duaneb> so I changed all the 'feisty's in sources.list, and did an aptitude update/upgrade
[03:38] <ShackJack> Yggdrasil: what device is that a USB drive?
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: you can turn thumbnailing off though
[03:38] <gdi2k> *applet
[03:38] <Yggdrasil> shackjack actualy that second one.
[03:38] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: i know that
[03:38] <duaneb> but most of the packages were held back, and my kernel wasn't updated!
[03:38] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: go into top in the terminal, hit ctrl+M (note the caps), note the PID for wine, hit q to quit, and then do "sudo kill <PID>"
[03:38] <duaneb> so what should I do?
[03:38] <ShackJack> Yggdrasil: wha?
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: *shrug* OK
[03:38] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: maybe decreasing the cache size?
[03:38] <DJ-_-> my display is off
[03:38] <duaneb> the update-manager didn't work at all, btw
[03:38] <magnetron> !repeat | Yggdrasil
[03:38] <ubotu> Yggdrasil: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:38] <DJ-_-> what do i do now
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: could work I guess
[03:38] <DJ-_-> I just disabled gm and poof...all gone
[03:38] <Yggdrasil> well it wasnt a repeat now was it
[03:38] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: any idea how?
[03:38] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, sudo kill -9 5899  6021 6023 << and then turn off amrock
[03:38] <duaneb> anyone?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, wine: no process killed
[03:39] <DJ-_-> gdm*
[03:39] <Monk-e> So, is there a simple way to install a cmdline system of ubuntu on a USB pendrive. i.e. just point the installer to it?
[03:39] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: not off the top of my head, no
[03:39] <duaneb> how SHOULD I upgrade to gutsy?
[03:39] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: help!!!!!!!!!! i turned off gdm and all GUI is gone i am on CLI
[03:39] <Yggdrasil> shackjack did you see the second thing i posted ? when i try to upgrade restricted modules it somehow writes it there  and its running out of space
[03:39] <thoreauputic_> !upgrade
[03:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:39] <magnetron> !install | Monk-e
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, im not running amarok
[03:39] <ubotu> Monk-e: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:39] <Yggdrasil> 30M   26M  3.6M  88% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-386/volatile
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> DJ-_-: oh crap..lol
[03:39] <aroo> DJ-_-: didn't someone tell you not to do it?
[03:39] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: yeah...gdm does the graphical login thing, without it, you log in in the cli
[03:39] <Monk-e> magnetron, thanks
[03:39] <AdministratorX> Good Morning from Marietta, GA
[03:39] <GrueTamer> like i said, its SAFE to turn it off, but i would advise against it
[03:39] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: thanks
[03:40] <GrueTamer> hi AdministratorX
[03:40] <DJ-_-> but i was on xfce
[03:40] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE: do: ps ax | grep wine     that will tell you the process ID. Then do "kill [process ID]
[03:40] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: I said only turn if off if you weren't using it and using the XCFE login manager - did you uninstall or is it off?
[03:40] <thoreauputic_> Yggdrasil: that is volatile -it doesn't take any real space
[03:40] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: off
[03:40] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, could have fooled me: python /home/patrick/.kde/share/apps/amarok/scripts/copycover/copycover.py maybe you are doing stuff you don't know here
[03:40] <DJ-_-> i was on xfce login
[03:40] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: no, evidentally you were not ;)
 if you do a df -h you can see theres a bunch of fake drives
[03:40] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: now i rebooted and it shows hostnaem ogin
[03:40] <GrueTamer> you could always just log in with the cli and type startx, but gdm is simpler
[03:41] <DJ-_-> login*
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I have not used any of those functions although I was listening to a song earlier
[03:41] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, why are you running apache on a desktop?
[03:41] <irv> is there a way to get ubuntu on a laptop with only 3.5 floppy?
[03:41] <duaneb> can I DOWNGRADE to feisty?
[03:41] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: type your username, and hit enter
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, err
[03:41] <GrueTamer> then itll want your password, so type that
[03:41] <jpotex> Can someone please help me a bit? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24855/
[03:41] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: you're jumping ahead - is that the XCFE login, then?
[03:41] <DJ-_-> logged in
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, whats apache
[03:41] <GrueTamer> and then type either "gdm" or "startx" (no quotes"
[03:41] <thoreauputic_> Yggdrasil: yes - but these don't take space ( like /proc etc)
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, you see what I mean....
[03:41] <DJ-_-> Shackjack; CLI login...and i logged in
[03:41] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: type startx
[03:41] <DJ-_-> gdm goes to next line
[03:41] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: You can also - /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:42] <jpotex> No idea?
[03:42] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: or sudo init 5
[03:42] <DJ-_-> finally GUI is coming back lol
[03:42] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, no, I don't, you see to install an application is to make it run if it is a daemon - it is a web server, you appear to have lots of things like this samba and so on installed and running
[03:42] <irv> is there a way to get ubuntu on a laptop with only 3.5 floppy?
[03:42] <thoreauputic_> ShackJack: init 5 doesn't do what you think on Ubuntu
[03:42] <DJ-_-> lol i ll get on from there
[03:42] <jpotex> Someone with experience of ATI? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24855/
[03:42] <DJ-_-> brb
[03:42] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, to stop apache sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[03:42] <GrueTamer> irv: not ubuntu...i dont think
[03:42] <Covi_cd> join #ubuntu-es-es
[03:43] <ShackJack> jpotex: you have yet to ask a question...
[03:43] <Covi_cd> #ubuntu-es-es
[03:43] <Covi_cd> arrggggpffff
[03:43] <curiogeo> is it me or is CUPS just a bit confusing,  I am trying to load the drivers for windows clients for a working cups printer
[03:43] <GrueTamer> Covi_cd: type /join #ubuntu-es
[03:43] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, to stop apache sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[03:43] <thoreauputic_> ShackJack: default runlevel is 2 for both X and non-X
[03:43] <irv> ok thanks GrueTammer
[03:43] <jpotex> ShackJack: Without answer, yes.
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, i restart into a normal gnome session and still
[03:43] <Covi_cd> ;) thx
[03:43] <DJ-_-> now should i turn on gdm from services?
[03:43] <aroo> jpotex, you have to ask questions if you want answers
[03:43] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, these things are sitting below the bonnet of the machine
[03:43] <jpotex> aroo: Already done so ^^
[03:43] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you or someone with direct access to your box started them
[03:44] <aroo> jpotex, no, all you did was link a paste
[03:44] <curiogeo> I picked up the cups windows 6 driver does not appear to load to win client when I print
[03:44] <ShackJack> jpotex: no, as far as I saw you just did a pastebin, unless we missed something..
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, how do I make sure it does not start again
[03:44] <ShackJack> aroo beat me to it :)
[03:44] <jpotex> Yes, I pasted a link with the question if someone has experience of ATI.
[03:44] <jpotex> Since I don't know why I get core dumped
[03:44] <aroo> jpotex, ok, then the answer is yes I have experience with ATI
[03:44] <aroo> jpotex, now what?
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I am the only person at this laptop, and its brand new :(
[03:45] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, well I have a more important question for you, you stuck in beryl and it is running, so how long have you got ubuntu on it?
[03:45] <Covi_cd> please... need help, how to see errors log?, plz :(
[03:45] <jpotex> aroo: If u check on that link I pasted, there an error in the end of the message while I run aticonfig.
[03:45] <ompaul> Covi_cd, go to /var/logs and poke in there
[03:45] <brucedes> I've installed feisty on my macbook, and use Wicd because the default wireless manager is rubbish. Problem is, when I was using the pre-release version of feisty, it worked perfectly, but not anymore...Anyone else had any problems with Wicd?
[03:45] <jpotex> aroo: Trying to get the latest ATi driver to work with 7.04.
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, about a month
[03:45] <Tom47> Covi_cd: System>Administratio>System Log
[03:45] <jpotex> aroo: I have an ATI X1600XT Radeon
[03:45] <Covi_cd> i know buy i dont know the specific error (srry lang), gdm, kernel...
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, maybe a little over a month actually
[03:45] <aroo> jpotex, I have absolutely no idea how to interpret all that, sorry
[03:46] <curiogeo> what must I do to successfully load the cups driver for windows 6.0
[03:46] <Covi_cd> ok, i try Tom47
[03:46] <Covi_cd> thx
[03:46] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, is it your daily workhorse?
[03:46] <irv> ok next question I have an ATI 128 all in wonder graphics card it works with two monitors but I want to set up one large workspace on it any help?
[03:46] <DJ-_-> lol
[03:46] <jpotex-> aroo: Okey, cause I'm starting to get a bit angry now. I have been trying different things for about 1 week now.
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, normally its fast with bery temp is great and I dont know what suddenly happened
[03:46] <DJ-_-> another x was trying to startup
[03:47] <DJ-_-> i switched to console killed it and restarted another x
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, seems a little strange to me, and I really am alarmed
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, yes
[03:47] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: I would try diabling some of the eye candy - like for example the blur was slowing my ATI powered system down, etc...
[03:47] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, install "bum" boot up manager and use it to stop apache, and smb (samba) unless you are using it
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, no blur and all that stuff
[03:47] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: (if beryl is causing your CPU spikage)
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, can they be removed
[03:48] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, they don't need to be
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, instead of installing yet another app I know nothing about
[03:48] <orbisvicis> actually whoever here was taking about java and 64bit firefox can also probably use nspluginwrapper
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, the only thing I can think of was a guide one the wiki for filesharing would have installed those things
[03:48] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, frankly I would say do you if you feel that way, turn off the computer and reinstall from scratch and don't do anything that is not an application or the rest
[03:49] <Eric_Jardas> Can anyone tell me how to replace the 'server' kernel with the generic-kernel ?
[03:49] <EvilBro> hello
[03:49] <jrib> orbisvicis: doesn't really work, at least when I tried.  I just use blackdown java's plugin (1.4.2)
[03:49] <irv> Thanks for the help guys and gals
[03:49] <c9s_>  hi , if I want to write a script that can install splashscreen , what path should I put image files into ?
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, is there no really simple way of removing these things
[03:49] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, bum is a program that switches off stuff it only runs while you have it invoked
[03:49] <Gionne> hello
[03:49] <EvilBro> Anyone here who wants to answer some questions of a ubuntu/linux newby
[03:50] <c9s_> splash screen  of gnome
[03:50] <GrueTamer> EvilBro: whats your question?
[03:50] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[03:50] <Eric_Jardas> Can anyone tell me how to replace the 'server' kernel with the generic-kernel ?
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, never had probs before like this with ubuntu edgy
[03:50] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, as for beryl I don't know how you isntalled it
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, or dapper
[03:50] <ShackJack> !ak | EvilBro
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <Gionne> i have to compile a source i have that calls gstreamer lib
[03:50] <openmindDJ> Has anyone installed the latest kernel 2.6.20-16.29?
[03:50] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: then use edgy :)
[03:50] <orbisvicis> jrib, ah ok, maybe b/c its more intricate than flash (?)
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, beryl always ran fine
[03:50] <Tom47> Paddy_Eire ... for simplae approaches to adding and removing programs use synaptic
[03:50] <Gionne> it's my first time compiling
[03:50] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: look for linux-generic and install it
[03:50] <orbisvicis> as in cant wrap only the firefox plugin
[03:50] <Covi_cd> ummm... how to stop the refresh in list system log? plz
[03:50] <DJ-_-> opemindDJ: yes it was released today na?
[03:51] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: apt-cache search linux generic should find it
[03:51] <openmindDJ> DJ-_-: indeed.  these kernel updates always make me a bit nervous
[03:51] <jrib> orbisvicis: looking back, I think I just tried it on the symlink, maybe that's why
[03:51] <EvilBro> I recently (5 minutes ago :) ) tried to play "tremulous". It worked for a while full screen, then it went out of full screen mode and everything froze.... how or what do you do at that point? (instead of hitting reset like I did...)
[03:51] <Eric_Jardas> thoreauputic_, don't I have to remove something ?  A new 7.04 user here.. Install went great, everything seems to work, but when I hibernate, the system reports "Hal did not hibernate", however the system seems to work ok.. Error message refered me to help, but nothing there..
[03:52] <Gionne> says: Package gstreamer-0.10 wasn't find in the pkg-config search path
[03:52] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: linux-image-generic or something like that
[03:52] <Gionne> what should i do?
[03:52] <GrueTamer> EvilBro: uh...weird...do you have the restricted drivers installed?
[03:52] <Eric_Jardas> thoreauputic_, and how do I set it to boot the generic kernel ?
[03:52] <jrib> Gionne: what are you doing?
[03:52] <Eric_Jardas> after installing it
[03:52] <EvilBro> For video? yeah...
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, whats the command
[03:52] <Gionne> i have to compile this source
[03:52] <GrueTamer> ah, well...i dont know
[03:52] <DJ-_-> basically using linux u can manage a web/mail/rdp/proxy server from justa CLI?
[03:53] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: i would certainly think so
[03:53] <ompaul> !compile | Gionne
[03:53] <ubotu> Gionne: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:53] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: hit <esc> on boot and you get a menu - choose the generic kernel from the menu and boot
[03:53] <Gionne> using gstreamer library
[03:53] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: replace "apache2" with "apache2.2-common", but I have no idea what you are doing.  I just saw that purge with "apache2"
[03:53] <Gionne> ok i know how to compile
[03:53] <DJ-_-> GrueTamer: all sounds worklable but the rdp..is it possible too?
[03:53] <jrib> Gionne: what are you compiling I mean?
[03:53] <EvilBro> But is there like a ctrl+alt+delete equivalent in ubuntu?
[03:53] <Gionne> but i don't know how to export path
[03:53] <Gionne> ah
[03:53] <Eric_Jardas> thoreauputic_, OK, thank you very much
[03:53] <Gionne> helloworld.c from the manual, the ogg player
[03:53] <Gionne> :D
[03:53] <GrueTamer> you can do almost anything with a CLI, i imagine you can do that
[03:53] <DJ-_-> GrueTamer: doesnt rdp require a GUI?
[03:54] <GrueTamer> i dont know...anything...about rdp...lol
[03:54] <jrib> Gionne: ah, well do you have libgstreamer0.10-dev?  If so, what is the command you are using to compile?
[03:54] <DJ-_-> lol
[03:54] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how do i install CUPS on my xubuntu??
[03:54] <jpotex-> What is the offical name of the ati driver? Is it fglrx?
[03:54] <KI4IKL> !CUPS
[03:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:54] <EvilBro> but how do you get a cli when everything seems frozen?
[03:54] <Gionne> yes i have every gstreamer package
[03:54] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: ati is the open source driver, fglrx is the restricted driver...radeon may be another open driver
[03:54] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, to be honest you should really reinstall and check the box out like that for a while - what you are suggesting is not really the shortest route to being able to be happy with the box again, in fact to prove this start the live CD and the load will not be as high I imagine
[03:54] <Covi_cd> dhcp renewall continious refresh it's normal?
[03:54] <Gionne> i'm on ubuntu 7.04
[03:54] <DJ-_-> ok I am going to a do a CLI version of xubuntu install on a p3 1ghz 256mb
[03:55] <jrib> Gionne: specifically, check that you have the one I mentioned
[03:55] <askand> When I move totemwindow when its playing a video, the video doesnt follow I get a blue colour instead...why?
[03:55] <Gionne> ok
[03:55] <DJ-_-> i m gonna run it as a server...if i need help i ll ask
[03:55] <dfgas> i want to add pictures it is looking for *.jpg and my file for some reason are name *.JPG
[03:55] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: if you need gui you can install something like fluxbox or icewm
[03:55] <PanzerMKZ> DJ-_- that should be a good server
[03:55] <jpotex-> Can I see what name the radeon driver us?
[03:55] <jpotex-> use
[03:55] <openmindDJ> on a seperate note i am trying to make a backup image of the main ubuntu partition using partimage.  Assuming that my ext3fs is mounted on hda1, would this be the correct way to create the image backup? "partimage -z1 -o -d save /dev/hda1 /mnt/backup/ubuntu.partimg.gz"  I would then like to burn this to DVD (probably going to need a few discs)
[03:55] <PanzerMKZ> I have a bit more ram then you but dual 500 cel's
[03:55] <DJ-_-> GruTamer: wont GUI eat more hard?
[03:55] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:55] <dfgas> is there a way to fix that other than renaming all files
[03:55] <KI4IKL> Shin_Gouki, go to synaptic and search for CUPS ...and it should isntall everything for it.
[03:55] <PanzerMKZ> DJ-_- yea it will
[03:55] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: yeah, but its not a whole lot
[03:55] <DJ-_-> GrueTamer: or ram
[03:56] <jpotex-> My xorg.conf is the standard file :S
[03:56] <GrueTamer> yes, it will
[03:56] <PanzerMKZ> and you can turn it off
[03:56] <parrot_> pilote audio SOUND BLASTER CREATIVE
[03:56] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: pastebin it anyway
[03:56] <jpotex-> Hm ok wait
[03:56] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: thx man...i will try it....and how to turn it off?
[03:56] <GrueTamer> i can tell you what driver youre running by looking at it
[03:56] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: i wouldnt install something like gdm if you install a window manager/desktop environment
[03:56] <sonnie> sound card doesn't work after resuming from hibernation. kernel 2.6.20-15, sound card hda-intel
[03:56] <PanzerMKZ> well I don't think it will be in the start at power on if you install later
[03:57] <GrueTamer> just start it with startx
[03:57] <jpotex-> Hm
[03:57] <MattJ> EvilBro: Ctrl+Alt+F1 should get you to a cli, if only the X is not responding
[03:57] <thoreauputic_> GrueTamer: jpotex- btw the ati and radeon drivers are the same in xorg.conf - you can use either and the radeon driver will load
[03:57] <zoidberg> guys does anyone know how to enable dual monitor display if your laptop has S-Video Out?
[03:57] <jpotex-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24856/
[03:57] <sonnie> but the card does work after reboot.
[03:57] <jrib> zoidberg: what video card?
[03:57] <jpotex-> There it is
[03:57] <GrueTamer> thoreauputic_: ahh
[03:57] <Gruelius> If i install ubuntu to /dev/sda and i plan to put it into a laptop which would make it appear as /dev/hda do i just need to change the device map for grub and fstab?
[03:57] <Yggdrasil> so anyway can somone help me out with my problem
[03:57] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ and GrueTamer: thx...i will gt bk wit questions in a lil :P
[03:57] <Gionne> no i haven't!
[03:57] <Gionne> :D
[03:57] <PanzerMKZ> np
[03:57] <zoidberg> jrib, i think its ati rage pro or something
[03:57] <Gionne> in the packages
[03:57] <GrueTamer> Gruelius: theres a kernel thing that makes hdX turn into sdX
[03:57] <GrueTamer> libata
[03:57] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: Got it?
[03:57] <Gionne> now i have to dl source and install it right?
[03:58] <jrib> zoidberg: k, I only know how to do it with nvidia, but mention ati when you repeat your question in a little bit
[03:58] <jrib> Gionne: you just do:  sudo aptitude install libgstreamer0.10-dev
[03:58] <Gruelius> hrmm, well im trying to install it onto this stupid laptop. Zenwalk took the disk to be /dev/sda and gentoo took it to be /dev/hda
[03:58] <PanzerMKZ> GrueTamer what you think about only 256 of ram for that server?
[03:58] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24856
[03:58] <zoidberg> how do u checck waht video card u have?
[03:58] <GrueTamer> PanzerMKZ: i would think he shouldnt run any gui if he doesnt have to
[03:58] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: im looking at it, give me a second
[03:58] <PanzerMKZ> well yea.
[03:58] <jrib> zoidberg: lspci  usualyl helps
[03:59] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: youre running the restricted ati driver, fglrx
[03:59] <PanzerMKZ> But ram for that stuff is normally cheap
[03:59] <kitche> Gruelius: 2.6.21 kernel uses libata so for one kernel it might be /dev/hda for a kernel that is 2.6.21 and up it might b e /dev/sda
[03:59] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: "fglrx" in the file is not correct though, it's vesa in the saved file
[03:59] <camuflage> hey people
[03:59] <Gruelius> kitche: right
[03:59] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: so ignore that fglrx and think vesa there :)
[03:59] <KI4IKL> Here is a quote from the "Windows" chat... ""<Plantain> hazzah!
 The filthy boot sector virus that is GRUB  is gone!""
[03:59] <Gionne> thanx jrib
[03:59] <PanzerMKZ> GrueTamer would think that 384 or more would be better
[03:59] <Plantain> haha
[03:59] <camuflage> i can't make the svn update of amsn, keep always with an error
[03:59] <zoidberg> guys does anyone know how to enable dual monitor display if your laptop has S-Video Out...it is an ATI card?
[03:59] <Gruelius> any issues with installing ubuntu to thedisk on a usb caddy from another system then transplanting it?
[03:59] <KI4IKL> ahh and plantain is in here :P
[03:59] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:59] <Plantain> Of course :D
[03:59] <KI4IKL> Plantain, since when is grub a virus???
[04:00] <Plantain> Metaphorically
[04:00] <amaache> hi congratulation ubunto logo on bbc: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/6733501.stm
[04:00] <Gruelius> zoidberg: is it?
[04:00] <Plantain> I know it's not an actual virus
[04:00] <Zorlin> ...Its not really
[04:00] <Zorlin> ^^
[04:00] <Plantain> but it sure as hell has been screwing up my... everything
[04:00] <GrueTamer> grub can be very difficult to learn
[04:00] <camuflage> checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[04:00] <Gruelius> zoidberg: You will need to read up on xorg.conf, there should be some info on the wiki about dual monitors
[04:00] <Plantain> I couldn't boot my XP install CD anymore
[04:00] <Plantain> and I couldn't repartition
[04:00] <EvilBro> Another question: where can I find bug descriptions? (My laptop says "PCI BUG #81" or something)
[04:00] <GrueTamer> i dont think thats grubs fault...
[04:00] <Plantain> formatting would always fail
[04:00] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: I installed Ubuntu earlier and downloaded the new ATI-driver. I ran the installation gui and it said it was completed and that I should restart after running aticonfig. But when I ran aticonfig I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24855/ as error message.
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I restarted the comp afaik apache is gone, i think amarok may have been the problem...also can I give you my currently running processes and you could tel me what should not be running
[04:01] <zoidberg> Gruelius, but does that say anything about s-video
[04:01] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: use the restricted drivers manager instead
[04:01] <thoreauputic_> Plantain: doesn't sound remotely like a grub problem
[04:01] <Gruelius> ah svideo right
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, like I want beryl, but none of that server stuff
[04:01] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: So what I'm trying to do is to install the ATI-driver and get 1680x1050 in screen resolution
[04:01] <Gruelius> im clueless with that, you wont get a good picture really anyway
[04:01] <Plantain> GrueTamer: It's coincidence that the moment I remove GRUB, the moment it starts booting? :S
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, oh and whats vino-server
[04:01] <Gruelius> jpotex: add the modeline in the xorg.conf
[04:01] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, wine
[04:01] <Plantain> and the same moment I can repartition my HD again? :S
[04:01] <sonnie> the grub timer just STOPS when displaying the menu, why?
[04:01] <Plantain> Anyway, it's gone now
[04:01] <Plantain> and it'll be back on by tomorrow
[04:01] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: use the restricted drivers manager, or change fglrx to ati
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, is wine bad
[04:02] <thoreauputic_> Paddy_EIRE: vino is a vnc server
[04:02] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, install bum it will let you turn off that
[04:02] <ompaul> woops
[04:02] <jpotex-> Well, if I use the manager by X will crash as last time.
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, ok
[04:02] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: then change fglrx to ati and restart X
[04:02] <jpotex-> hm ok
[04:02] <jpotex-> I'll try that
[04:03] <ompaul> thoreauputic_, thanks
[04:03] <jpotex-> brb
[04:03] <thoreauputic_> :)
[04:03] <ompaul> thoreauputic_, great catch
[04:03] <Gionne> now working :-D
[04:03] <Tom47> Paddy_EIRE: wine is fine in moderation
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Tom47, I just use it for utorrent
[04:03] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: use a linux torrent client
[04:03] <MenZa> Transmission is alright, I find
[04:03] <Trae> I need some help getting it so that /dev/sdb1 is mounted at boot.  Could someone help me with that?
[04:03] <PanzerMKZ> Tom47: wine not win
[04:04] <PanzerMKZ> wine not wine rather
[04:04] <MenZa> !fstab | Trae
[04:04] <ubotu> Trae: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:04] <Trae> it's just a 2nd hard drive with files and stuff on it
[04:04] <askand> When I move totemwindow when its playing a video, the video doesnt follow I get a blue colour instead...why?
[04:04] <GrueTamer> i dont think that thats what Trae wanted...
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> GrueTamer, I cant find anything as good as utorrent for gnome
[04:04] <Trae> MenZa, fstab isn't the easiest thing on the planet to deal with, hence why I was asking for help.
[04:04] <thoreauputic_> GrueTamer: utorrent *is* nice though ( just plyed with it in wine a few days ago - I use deluge and azureus here mostly)
[04:04] <MenZa> Trae, what kind of drive is it?
[04:04] <PanzerMKZ> what about rtorrent
[04:04] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: I can recommend Transmission
[04:04] <Plantain> I actually wondered how many channels my little quote might be reiterated in
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> GrueTamer, that also supports encryption
[04:04] <Trae> it's jsut a hard drive
[04:04] <PanzerMKZ> torrent at command line
[04:04] <Plantain> I've picked it up in 2 so far XD
[04:04] <askand> How do I make mplayer open my dvvd when I insert it?
[04:04] <Trae> sata drive
[04:04] <GrueTamer> sure, utorrent is nice, but ive seen wine slow down my system in the past, and well...thats that
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> MenZa, is that in the repos
[04:04] <MenZa> Trae: Sure, but what file type?
[04:05] <Trae> I currently type:  mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[04:05] <Trae> to mount it
[04:05] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: No, but I've built a package (!WorksForMe)
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> GrueTamer, ok, I see
[04:05] <jrib> askand: tweak  system -> preferences -> removable drives and media
[04:05] <thoreauputic_> Plantain: you are now officially a heretic ;p
[04:05] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: I'll link you, if you want me to
[04:05] <Trae> hmm ext3 I think, sec
[04:05] <dfgas> how can i do a mass name change, i want th orignal name but change it from JPG to jpg
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> MenZa, yes please
[04:05] <Plantain> hooray :D
[04:05] <MenZa> Just a second.
[04:05] <jrib> dfgas: use 'rename'.  Do you understand regular expressions?
[04:05] <Trae> /dev/sdb1             147G   47G   94G  34% /mnt
[04:05] <Trae> heh
[04:05] <thoreauputic_> ;)
[04:05] <GrueTamer> Trae: add it as a startup command
[04:05] <dfgas> jrib, no  :(
[04:06] <MenZa> GrueTamer: No, fstab is created for the purpose
[04:06] <MenZa> Trae: Do you have an fstab entry for it now?
[04:06] <squ1> anybody there can help me fix my network ?
[04:06] <kitche> dfgas: you can actually make a small script if you wanted to using a for loop
[04:06] <thoreauputic_> squ1: could you possibly be vaguer ?
[04:06] <GrueTamer> well, of course it was, im just trying to offer some strange help advice :)
[04:06] <Trae> MenZa, Possibly I wasn't clear.  I currently have to type mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt   by hand to get the drive to mount
[04:06] <MenZa> Yes, Trae
[04:06] <PanzerMKZ> squ1: I got a 10 pound sledge
[04:07] <MenZa> Trae: But we want to add it to our fstab
[04:07] <PanzerMKZ> would that help?
[04:07] <Trae> MenZa, which means there is no fstab entry heh
[04:07] <dfgas> kitche, no idea how
[04:07] <sharperguy> lol, which update tofay requred a restart (i wasnt paying attention when i clicked update)
[04:07] <MenZa> Trae: There might be; I have an fstab entry that doesn't automount
[04:07] <jrib> dfgas: http://www.regular-expressions.info/ is an ok intro.  For what you asked, you would 'cd' to the directory with all the .JPG and issue:  rename -n 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG      but note that this will only *tell* you what it will do.  If it looks ok, then run the command again without the "-n"
[04:07] <MenZa> Trae: sudo <favourite text editor here> /etc/fstab
[04:07] <thoreauputic_> sharperguy: kernel fix
[04:07] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: Did that go through?
[04:07] <sharperguy> thoreauputic_, thanks
[04:07] <Danux_> i'm having problems with my wireless card not being able to obtain any DHCP offers. it managed to get a connection last night for 2 seconds and sign me into gaim, but it dropped straight away and i've not had a connection since
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> MenZa, cheers man, looks great..and my tracker supports it
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:08] <MenZa> Perfect, Paddy_EIRE :)
[04:08] <MenZa> Trae: Any sign of /dev/sdb1?
[04:08] <soyporti> hello everyone
[04:08] <GrueTamer> hi soyporti
[04:08] <DJ-_-> is there anyway i can configure bluetooth in ubuntu
[04:08] <Trae> MenZa, negative
[04:08] <MenZa> !bluetooth | DJ-_-
[04:08] <ubotu> DJ-_-: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:08] <thoreauputic_> DJ-_-: bluez-utils ?
[04:08] <Trae> why isn't there a nice gui tool for fstab?
[04:09] <thoreauputic_> !info bluez-utils
[04:09] <ubotu> bluez-utils: Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 3.9-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 280 kB, installed size 832 kB
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, should mono-xsp be running?
[04:09] <Plantain> KI4IKL: haha, that box isn't, and never will be on the internet :P
[04:09] <GrueTamer> Trae: because the cli is probably easier and faster :)
[04:09] <orbisvicis> there is sudo gedit /etc/fstab : )
[04:09] <GrueTamer> WARNING: possibly biased response above
[04:09] <GrueTamer> (mine)
[04:09] <soyporti> does anyone install Need For Speed Most Wanted using Wine??
[04:09] <Plantain> Only machines exposed are OSX and Solaris
[04:09] <Trae> GrueTamer, I can type apt-get install foo quickly but there are still add/remove gui tools in Ubuntu
[04:09] <KI4IKL> Good Idea :P...It's sad when you can think about the internet and the computer tries to crash itself to save the time...
[04:09] <GrueTamer> Trae: try synaptic
[04:10] <PanzerMKZ> that is bad
[04:10] <Trae> GrueTamer, heh, you illustrated my point for me.
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, what about nfs-common
[04:10] <Trae> anyway
[04:10] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, it is a web server thing - so I would imagine you don't want it or nfs -
[04:10] <Trae> I'll RTFM
[04:10] <Trae> *sigh*
[04:10] <GrueTamer> lol
[04:10] <soyporti> GrueTamer: have you install Need For Speed Most Wanted using wine??
[04:10] <GrueTamer> hold on
[04:10] <GrueTamer> soyporti: no
[04:10] <MenZa> Trae: ok, try writing the following then: /dev/sdb1 /mnt ext3 rw,auto,user,exec 0 0
[04:10] <thoreauputic_> Paddy_EIRE: nfs-common is a client, not a server
[04:10] <GrueTamer> do what MenZa said
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> thoreauputic_, ok
[04:10] <Trae> MenZa, shouldn't I ascertain if the drive is ext3 first?
[04:11] <Yggdrasil> ok, can somone please help me here been dealing with this for a while http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:11] <soyporti> oh ok
[04:11] <Trae> MenZa, and how would I do that?
[04:11] <ompaul> thoreauputic_, is it running ==- Paddy_EIRE is it running - where are you pulling these names from and why?
[04:11] <MenZa> Trae: I thought you'd already established that
[04:11] <GrueTamer> Trae: enter that line into your /etc/fstab file
[04:11] <askand> jrib: what command do I use?
[04:11] <EvilBro> Anyone here who wants to help me in a private channel?
[04:11] <GrueTamer> like, make a new line and that should be the line
[04:11] <MenZa> Trae: do sudo fdisk -l
[04:11] <MenZa> Then tell me what System it states /dev/sdb1 is
[04:11] <Danux_> Ubuntu is not even connecting to wireless when there is no key or encryption =(
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, you told me to use bum, oh dear what have I done now
[04:11] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE just paste that again ps awux > foo and again
[04:11] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, nothing I imagine
[04:11] <Trae>  /dev/sdb1               1       19457   156288321   83  Linux
[04:11] <Trae> ahh there we go
[04:11] <jrib> askand: same one you use in the terminal,  gmplayer dvd://   maybe?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, ok, gonna restart
[04:12] <MenZa> I'll... assume that's ext3
[04:12] <MenZa> hmm
[04:12] <thoreauputic_> Paddy_EIRE: hmm - i might be wrong about nfs-common but I think without nfs-kernel-server it won't act as a server
[04:12] <MenZa> two secs, checking fdisk
[04:12] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, I think you have gotten really confused and should take a little break to be honest
[04:12] <GrueTamer> Trae: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb instead
[04:12] <GrueTamer> that should tell you the file system type
[04:13] <Trae> got it, thanks gang :)
[04:13] <thoreauputic_> ompaul: I'm not even confused but I am taking a break right now ;)
[04:13] <Yggdrasil> ok, can somone please help me here been dealing with this for a while http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:13] <Trae> MenZa, GrueTamer thanks
[04:13] <GrueTamer> your welcome
[04:13] <MenZa> No worries.
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, you are correct but I would at least like to get rid of 1 or 2 of these things so I know what I am at the next time I come to this channel
[04:13] <Yggdrasil> i have 17g avaliable but im out of space ?
[04:13] <kitche> !offtopic | PanzerMKZ
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[04:14] <Yggdrasil> i sure would liek to fix this
[04:14] <askand> jrib: doesnt seem to work..it opens but its not playing the dvd.should I add something to the command?
[04:15] <mwe> Browsing a mirror with some .deb files I also saw some .udeb files. What are the .udeb files?
[04:15] <daveb_syd> Hi.  does anybody know where I can get some help with the iptables ubuntu source package?
[04:15] <PanzerMKZ> wow I am offtopic
[04:15] <MenZa> !offtopic | PanzerMKZ
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[04:16] <Yggdrasil> is this because of the size of my swap space ?  http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:16] <PanzerMKZ> wow I am offtopic
[04:16] <ompaul> PanzerMKZ, so are you going to be ontopic now?
[04:16] <DJ-_-> it kild ma stuff!!!!!!!
[04:16] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel, and I tried all the boot options..  I don't know where to begin fixing this problem.
[04:17] <VirtuoS> enyone to knows why updates don`t start?
[04:17] <DJ-_-> oh no....some script to remove kubuntu juz destroyed some gnome stuff
[04:17] <Jack_> well it took wellover 4hrs, but i fixed my laptop :)
[04:17] <Yggdrasil> is there a cli way to resize partitions ?
[04:17] <Jack_> Had to completely dissassemble it, take off heatsink, new thermal paste, new ram and now it works :)
[04:17] <jrib> askand: does 'mplayer dvd://' work?
[04:17] <DJ-_-> bbl..i havta reinstall everything now :S
[04:17] <kitche> Yggdrasil: parted maybe?
[04:17] <thoreauputic_> Yggdrasil: parted should do it ( gparted is a front end for it I think)
[04:18] <oslo> hi
[04:18] <Zorlin> [the g being short for graphical. or gnome]
[04:18] <Jack_> avg cpu tmp down from 70 to 50
[04:18] <oslo>  i'd like to erase files i have twice or more on my hards drives, how can i do ? wich programs can i use ?
[04:18] <PanzerMKZ> DJ-_- the ubuntu server install not go so good?
[04:18] <Yggdrasil> ok
[04:18] <oslo> i use kde
[04:18] <kitche> thoreauputic_: gparted is it's own application
[04:18] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: before that i was removing the kde and xfce from my desktop
[04:18] <Yggdrasil> im assuimg that my swap space is why im getting this error
[04:18] <thoreauputic_> kitche: it doesn't use parted at all ?
[04:18] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: and it has messed my gnome up
[04:18] <PanzerMKZ> oh
[04:19] <thoreauputic_> kitche: interesting
[04:19] <PanzerMKZ> why not just a clean install of ubuntu server?
[04:19] <kitche> thoreauputic_: nope according to the gnome site it's is it's own
[04:19] <thoreauputic_> kitche: OK I sit corrected :)
[04:19] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: i still didnt start with the server....i tried removing the kde and xfce from dis machine
[04:19] <artabrahao> hi, How Can I  chande directory and subdirectory do 666?
[04:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24858/
[04:20] <DJ-_-> and accoriding to what popped up on the terminal it removed all the gnome stuff too
[04:20] <thoreauputic_> kitche: quite right - apt-cache depends gparted does not list parted at all - I learnt something, thanks :)
[04:20] <Chani> anyone here know much about lvm? I'm not sure what I have to do to prepare my kubuntu for switching to lvm
[04:20] <DJ-_-> bbl gotta reinstall :S:S:S:S
[04:21] <Chani> I'm planning to have my root partition inside lvm, so initrd has to work
[04:22] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, much more like an ordinary user
[04:22] <orbisvicis> right initrd in /boot (not in lvm) has to suport lvm ... or bios has to support lvm ... theres a 3rd option i forget
[04:22] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you are still using beryl and that does cost some clock cycles
[04:22] <gkijg> hi
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I think I may have encoutered many of those probs trying to make a small network at home
[04:22] <Chani> if I put my swap partition inside lvm, will I still be able to hibernate?
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, is it alot
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, the beryl i mean
[04:23] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, not too much
[04:23] <UNDERsoN> Help me I used gtf 1280 1024 85 but in section in gnome preferences theris no changes I added 2 modline ( also for 1024 768 100)
[04:23] <UNDERsoN> what's wrong
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, oh, ok
[04:23] <Myrtti> KI4IKL: either use your "connect to server" on Places, or mount the drives
[04:23] <KI4IKL> Okay, thanks.
[04:23] <orbisvicis> use mkinitrd to load the lvm module for the kernel -> about sleep no idea
[04:23] <KI4IKL> And that will work because I have it installed, right?
[04:23] <KI4IKL> samba that is.
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I do not understand why there are so many Kde things there, I have k3b installed..
[04:24] <Myrtti> KI4IKL: I'd think so, the latter needs atleast sambafs
[04:24] <Myrtti> KI4IKL: I'd use mounting, they work on command line then too
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, would that cause a major decrease in performance
[04:24] <artabrahao> hi, How Can I  chande directory and subdirectory do 666?
[04:24] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, well you choose a kde application it needs a supporting environment to run, it will cause some, and if you sum the somes you will find the problem
[04:24] <UNDERsoN> Should I add something to change resolution and rate
[04:24] <codev> artabrahao, chmod
[04:24] <Myrtti> artabrahao: chmod -R 666 directory
[04:24] <yondie> guys i need a lil bit enlitghment on how to compile the aztech wl230 usb donggler
[04:25] <Yggdrasil> can somone please help me ?
[04:25] <yondie> here`s the log of the error http://rafb.net/p/4O5C1S95.html
[04:25] <M3G4crux> \join #latex
[04:25] <M3G4crux> sorry, hi to all
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, would it be difficult to remove all the kde stuff
[04:25] <Myrtti> !away | Plantain
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[04:25] <UNDERsoN> !gtf
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[04:25] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, what we don't have is figures for top, please run top and cut and paste the top 5 lines into a pastebin
[04:26] <Yggdrasil> guesse not huh
[04:26] <Yggdrasil> lame
[04:26] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, I have said it before, in your case a reinstall would be the best idea, don't add anything until you know how to take it down
[04:26] <anandanbu> can somebody help me to install new fonts in Ubuntu 7.04
[04:26] <UNDERsoN> Who can tell me what's wrong why theris no new rate for my monitor after adding modeline
[04:27] <Fjodor> Does anyone know how to get around bug 110585?
[04:27] <ShackJack> anandanbu: create a .fonts folder in your /home/user directory and drop the fonts in there :)
[04:27] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you are not building on a solid foundation
[04:27] <Yggdrasil> HELP@@@@@  http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:27] <orbisvicis> Chani, !think!you should be good as long as you dont put swap on lvm
[04:27] <orbisvicis> !think
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[04:27] <orbisvicis> !hopless
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[04:28] <orbisvicis> !hopeless
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[04:28] <Chani> orbisvicis: why? I was hoping I could put swap on lvm
[04:28] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[04:28] <artabrahao> Myrtti> thanks
[04:28] <UNDERsoN> Who can help me change fresh rate?
[04:28] <ompaul> !resolution | UNDERsoN
[04:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:28] <ubotu> UNDERsoN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:29] <ShackJack> anandanbu: It's a hidden folder, you have to refresh the fonts cache to get the fonts to show up, but easiesit way to do that is log out & back in again...
[04:29] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24859/
[04:29] <anandanbu> how do i create that .fonts folder
[04:29] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, the stuff above that is what I want
[04:29] <DeuZ> opa
[04:30] <ShackJack> anandanbu: Nautilus - in home directory right click - create folder... name it .fonts - it's hidden by default so use ctrl+H to show hidden folders
[04:30] <orbisvicis> for res, check out xrandr
[04:30] <superkirbyartist> !scanner
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[04:30] <Yggdrasil> PLEASE HELP@@@@@  http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:30] <askand>  jrib:  no that doesnt wven open mplayer..just for a second
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, would I not learn more if I was to fix what I have.... I have just reinstalled so many times its crazy! almost seems like every time there is a problem i have to reinstall
[04:30] <ompaul> !patience
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[04:30] <orbisvicis> but xrandr is only temporary
[04:30] <anandanbu> ok after copying the fonts in it am i supposed to restart the system
[04:30] <Jack_> Hey everyone, i'm using the evdev driver for my MX revolution and it works near perfectly except for one problem, if i change the port the reciever is connected to i have to change my xorg config to start X, i often move between locations and use different hubs/docking stations and would rather not have to edit xorg.conf each time i change, is there a way to make evdev autodetect the device?
[04:30] <_jason> askand: does it work when you type it in a terminal?
[04:31] <ShackJack> anandanbu: you don't have to restart - just log out and back in again --- there's a command line to refresh font cache without having to do that but it escapes me now...
[04:31] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, don't change three or four things at a time, take your time with each and make sure you can back out
[04:31] <askand> _jason: no
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, and I cant get small things to work like sharing a file for 1 laptop to another on a wireless network
[04:31] <Smegzor> I have just done a dist upgrade to 6.10 and now its telling me that /boot is almost full.  It has 1.4Mb left.  Is there anything I can do to free up space in boot?
[04:31] <orbisvicis> chani, hibernate copies the ram to the swap ... so youd need something that can read lvm to restore it
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I really need to start writing things down
[04:31] <Yggdrasil> paddy_eire whats your problem ?
[04:31] <askand> _jason: gmplayer dvd:// seems to work..it opens mplayer but doesnt play the dvd..
[04:31] <ugarit> my edgy and then my feisty almost always claims that my laptop was not shutdown correctly and that the filesystem needs to be checked and fsck always get an exit status of 1.  I am shutting down correctly and why am I usually getting the exit status of 1?
[04:31] <superkirbyartist> I am having a hard time dual-booting Mac OS 9 and Ubuntu on my iMac.  Can someone help please?
[04:32] <Chani> orbisvicis: yes, but I was hoping initrd would fill that need
[04:32] <orbisvicis> but I dont know much .... maybe the "thing that restores it" has default support for lvm
[04:32] <anandanbu> ok Shackjack thank you very much for your help
[04:32] <ShackJack> anandanbu: Oh, it's sudo fc-cache -fv - type in terminal - but easier to log out and back in...
[04:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, so this is a good reason to start afresh, in all seriousness and follow the guides slowly and faithfully
[04:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Yggdrasil, ME, lol (p.i.c.n.i.c.) Problem In Chair Not In Computer lol
[04:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, help.ubuntu.com has all the docs you would ever need
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> i see
[04:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, as a standard user
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> well i sure wish somone could help me, been in here askign same question for like a week
[04:32] <anandanbu> i'll better try the command line
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> fucking sucks
[04:33] <superkirbyartist> !language > Yggdrasil
[04:33] <Yggdrasil> yea yea
[04:33] <Yggdrasil> !help
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[04:33] <Yggdrasil> > me