[21:06] <Slart> Melissa2012: look here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt  .. it's called amd64 regardless of what cpu you're using
[21:06] <Melissa2012> Seveas: how much slower and sluggish will the alternative full system encryption be compared to just encrypting the homedir?
[21:07] <Melissa2012> Slart: this one? ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[21:07] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Is there some quirk of gksu that I'm missing? Is the problem maybe that a script owned by root is what is running gksu? Do I need to have gksu run directly by the .desktop file?
[21:07] <Slart> Melissa2012: that's the 64 bit alternate installer for 11.10, yes
[21:07] <Melissa2012> Slart: how much slower and sluggish will the alternative full system encryption be compared to just encrypting the homedir?  had any experience between both?
[21:07] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, I was looking for a solution, but it's sudo's default behaviour to change to target (root) user's environment variables.
[21:08] <Seveas> Melissa2012, I found it noticabley slower
[21:08] <Seveas> though that was a while ago
[21:08] <Slart> Melissa2012: I've never done full system encryption so I wouldn't know.. haven't heard anything really bad about either though
[21:08] <mcc> if i'm compiling an application for distribution, is it better to compile against the gtk-2.0 headers or the gtk-3.0 headers? is it possible some people will not be able to use my app if i compile against 3.0?
[21:08] <Melissa2012> Seveas: ok
[21:09] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Also, what would I do about scripts that aren't being run by gksu? They're having the same problem. Hasn't anyone ever needed to run a script owned by root that edits files in the executor's home directory before ??!?
[21:09] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two does this look good what im doing? chrooting update-grub on hdd?
[21:09] <ironfoot495> Hi I have a problem with filezlla I can upload files but I can't download files is there anyone who has had this problem?
[21:09] <Melissa2012> its downloading at 1.1MB/s now :)
[21:09] <reesk> what text editors does ubuntu server have beside vi i hate vi
[21:10] <Seveas> reesk, emacs, nano, joe
[21:10] <Slart> reesk: pico?
[21:10] <Melissa2012> Seveas: im getting the normal version and will encrypt homedir. Thanks for your advice
[21:10] <Seveas> reesk, but you should join the vim cult! We have cookies!
[21:10] <guiri> Howdy.  Firefox seems to be disabling lightspark, a flash plugin.  Does anyone know how to explicitly enable it?  it doesn't even show up in the Addons, but I see it in the /usr/share plugins folder
[21:10] <reesk> screw vim its confusing as heck to use
[21:10] <TridenX> Is this the most popular channel on freenode?
[21:11] <gnutun> im having trouble boot the install cd from usb on a macbook air; the video is all messed up, and nomodeset doesnt help; any ideas?
[21:11] <Melissa2012> one last question.  Can the Ubuntu ISO I am downloading be installed on a windows system and will it create a dual boot menu?
[21:11] <ironfoot495> is there a better sftp out there?
[21:12] <reesk> things never go well when me and vim get together
[21:12] <reesk> i hve much love for gedit
[21:12] <BluesKaj> guiri, it should be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[21:12] <Seveas> Melissa2012, yes and yes
[21:12] <ironfoot495> I can upload but not down files.
[21:12] <compitz> following this link didnt work http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/  maybe because i couldnt run update-grub. can someone help here?
[21:13] <guiri> BluesKaj: Thanks!  I'll cp them in
[21:13] <VCoolio> vouth: specify user like gksu -u yourname command
[21:14] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, gksudo takes the -k switch to preserve $PATH and $HOME
[21:14] <BluesKaj> guiri, make sure it's the libflashplayer.so
[21:14] <VCoolio> vouth: or if multiple user need to use this: gksu -u $(whoami) command
[21:14] <ironfoot495>  compitz: I've recently had that problem and solved it do you need help?
[21:14] <guiri> well, in this case it's liblightspark.so but I believe is registers as Flash 10.2.  I'm running on PPC, so flash on Linux doesn't work
[21:14] <ironfoot495> if so tell me what is the problem?
[21:14] <onixx111> I am trying to boot over PXE the live CD and mount an NFS share on /cow. I have modified the casper script to do this. I believe I had it all setup properly hover I get a kernel crash when the mount command runs. something to do with nfs_lookup_revalidate
[21:14] <compitz> im hungry for help ironfoot495, been stuck on this for 3 days now
[21:14] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, sudo does a similar thing with -E
[21:15] <BluesKaj> guiri,  right
[21:15] <ironfoot495> or what have you done to solve it so far?
[21:15] <compitz> ironfoot495, was your problem with 10.4 lucid as well?
[21:15] <Melissa2012> Seveas: I need to keep Windows 7 for one thing, to play Battlefield online.  If Ubuntu would support that, then I could remove Windiws 7 for good.
[21:15] <onixx111> kernel oops error with a trace
[21:15] <Melissa2012> Seveas: oh well :P
[21:15] <iceroot> !appdb | Melissa2012
[21:15] <ironfoot495> ok talk to me what have done so far what type of screen and anything else you can think of?
[21:15] <reesk> anyone got experiance in fstab
[21:16] <iceroot> !anyone | reesk
[21:16] <ironfoot495> yes
[21:16] <Melissa2012> iceroot: Battlefield don't work on Wine and Ubuntu, ive read about it.  I think PUnkbuster is the main culprit
[21:16] <iceroot> Melissa2012: ah ok :(
[21:16] <ironfoot495> so what have you done so far you have to let me know hee you are
[21:16] <VCoolio> Seven_Six_Two: with sudo -E whoami is still root :/
[21:16] <ironfoot495> where you are?
[21:17] <reesk> is this the correct syntax /dev/sb1 /mnt/640 auto auto,user,rw,exec 0 0
[21:17] <Melissa2012> iceroot: its a shame, if my online game worked on Ubuntu, I would remove Windows for good
[21:17] <Seven_Six_Two> VCoolio, yes, but whoami should have access to your path and home, not root's
[21:17] <compitz> ironfoot495, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ it sounded so easy: i edited the grub line to "quiet splash nomodeset" -like suggested for nvidia. the second step was not possible for the original problem is a black/shut off screen after the lucid load, at the point of time wehen the login-screen should appear, i cannto open a termial cause all I see is black
[21:17] <Melissa2012> iceroot: do ubuntu have any plans to support online games like battlefield etc?
[21:18] <iceroot> Melissa2012: that is not in the hand of ubuntu, its in the hand of EA
[21:18] <iceroot> Melissa2012: and EA is evil like hell/apple
[21:18] <Seven_Six_Two> VCoolio, try  sudo -E echo $HOME
[21:18] <compitz> ironfoot495, the socond step would be update-grub
[21:18] <alruin> mag ik een dropje
[21:18] <iceroot> reesk: /dev/sdb1
[21:19] <ironfoot495> ok you have worked with grub did you add the proprietary driver yet?
[21:19] <oCean> alruin: wrong channel, try #ubuntu-nl
[21:19] <edbian> Melissa2012, the wine project is probably trying to get that game working.  Look it up on winehq.com
[21:19] <alruin> dank je wel'
[21:19] <VCoolio> Seven_Six_Two: yes, did something like that, that's ok; but if whoami is root, what would file permissions be on a file created in $HOME by his script? owned by root, right? doesn't sound like something you'd want
[21:19] <iceroot> reesk: and /mnt/640 will use a directory called "640" inside /mnt i dont think i mean that
[21:19] <reesk> thats what i put
[21:19] <ironfoot495> you'll find it in systems
[21:19] <Melissa2012> edbian: nobody can get battlefield 2142 to work with wine and Ubuntu. I read about it
[21:19] <Seven_Six_Two> VCoolio, good point
[21:19] <edbian> Melissa2012, ahhh, sorry to hear that
[21:19] <iceroot> reesk: i guess you wanted the permission 640?
[21:19] <Melissa2012> edbian: me too
[21:19] <compitz> ironfoot495, i got the problem after uninstalling the standard nvidia driver, i wanted to try the open source one because of minor problems, no I think this messed it all up
[21:20] <edbian> Melissa2012, run win 7 in a virtual machine (or dual boot)
[21:20] <Seven_Six_Two> exit
[21:20] <edbian> Melissa2012, gaming is a weak spot for linux
[21:20] <Seveas> Seven_Six_Two, here, have a slash: /
[21:20] <Seveas> :)
[21:20] <reesk> i made a dir in mnt called 640 refering to the size of the device for easy reference
[21:20] <Melissa2012> edbian: yes I will use Ubuntu for 99% of the time and when I want to play Battlfield, Ill just reboot into W7
[21:20] <ironfoot495> after you do that reboot and go to recovery and and go to safe graphics and follow the instruction and you will be up!
[21:20] <Melissa2012> edbian: yes I realise.
[21:21] <edbian> Melissa2012, there  ya go
[21:21] <Melissa2012> edbian: :-)
[21:21] <ironfoot495> if not I'll go step by step with you.
[21:21] <Edward2> Hello again. Having more sound problems. When I click on Sound Settings -> Input and try to change the Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do that?
[21:21] <compitz> ironfoot, please can you type my name compitz so i can see you are talking to me
[21:21] <compitz> ironfoot495, please can you type my name compitz so i can see you are talking to me
[21:21] <ironfoot495>  compitz: ok sorry!!!
[21:21] <Melissa2012> edbian: the Windows 7 I have is only 32bit, so it will be nice to use 64 bit Ubuntu :-)
[21:21] <edbian> ironfoot495, I had him install nouveau you can probably get things back to before by just puring that and installing nvidia-96   for the record.  However I think nomodeset will fix the problem he has now
[21:22] <compitz> alright, ironfoot495
[21:22] <dunpeal> Hi. Recently, on Oneiric, many times shortly after a reboot, my touchpad stops working. Anyone familar with this problem?
[21:22] <edbian> Melissa2012, meh, do you have > 3.2 Gb of ram?
[21:22] <Melissa2012> edbian: 4GB ram
[21:22] <guntbert> !tab | ironfoot495 compitz
[21:22] <edbian> Melissa2012, why only 32 bit windows then? cheaper?
[21:22] <iceroot> Melissa2012: the sad thing is that the game companys mostly dont support games for linux. its no problem to run games on linux (quake, unreal tournament and some others) are running directly on linux. but because most of the people are using windows, the game companys dont support linux because the amount of linux-customers is to small (world of goo was showing something different but game companys dont care about that)
[21:22] <Melissa2012> edbian: is there a big benefit me using 64bit ubuntu compared to 32 bit ubuntu?
[21:22] <bb> hi all
[21:23] <alruin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/72492/sound-muted-when-headphones-are-connected-in-11-10
[21:23] <edbian> Melissa2012, you get to use all 4Gb of your ram with 64 bit OS (windows or linux)
[21:23] <compitz> ironfoot495, now this was all I thoght of, i tried chrooting update-grub on the hd.
[21:23] <iceroot> edbian: there is no amd64 windows which have a good gui :)
[21:23] <Melissa2012> edbian: my HP laptop only came with the 32 bit W7, even though my laptop supports 64 bit.  HP reasons, not sure :(
[21:23] <ironfoot495> edbian: not always I've done this over a hundred time
[21:23] <mcc> so i mentioned this before.. i am trying to compile a program written by someone else which includes gdk headers
[21:23] <compitz> thx, guntbert
[21:23] <ironfoot495> compitz: you'll have to start over
[21:24] <Melissa2012> iceroot: I hear ya.  So are there any online games that can be played against others in Ubuntu, similar to Battlefield?
[21:24] <edbian> iceroot, huh? 32 and 64 bit windows has the same gui ?
[21:24] <compitz> ironfoot495:  what do you mean by that?
[21:24] <vouth> VCoolio, Seven_Six_Two: Thanks!
[21:24] <bb> i have one with 32 bits to although my system supports 64bits. you wont have as many compatibility problems
[21:24] <oCean> mcc: find documentation on the program you'r trying to compile, or contact the maintainers of that package
[21:24] <compitz> ironfoot495, reinstall?
[21:24] <Melissa2012> edbian: is there a big difference between running 32 or 64bit Ubuntu?  faster? smoother?
[21:24] <iceroot> Melissa2012: unreal tourmanet 2004 with onslaught mode
[21:24] <edbian> Melissa2012, weird that they would sell a laptop with 4Gb of ram and a 32 bit OS
[21:24] <ironfoot495> compitz: you're confusing yourself
[21:24] <Melissa2012> iceroot: are many people online playing it?
[21:24] <iceroot> edbian: i mean, windows xp was the last windows with a good gui and win xp is only offering 32bit
[21:24] <Melissa2012> edbian: thats HP for ya lol
[21:24] <edbian> Melissa2012, Technically it is more efficient in some cases.  But the biggest reason to use 64 bit is to use more than 3.2 Gb of ram
[21:24] <ironfoot495> compitz:  yes reinstall the proprietary driver first
[21:25] <compitz> ironfoot495:  i am confused, what do you mean by i had to start over
[21:25] <edbian> ironfoot495, excellent :)
[21:25] <mcc> i eventually determined that i had the gdk headers, but it was not finding them correctly... so I put the gdk header path into CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH. But then the gdk header files included other headers which also weren't found, leading me into this bifurcating tree of ubuntu headers, none of which were being included automatically... at this point I am up to a include path that looks like:
[21:25] <mcc> CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtk-2.0:/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0:/usr/include/glib-2.0:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include:/usr/include/cairo:/usr/include/pango-1.0:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/include
[21:25] <bb> win 7 gui is very good 32bit and 64bit are the same gui
[21:25] <iceroot> bb: you dont get what i wanted to say with that
[21:25] <ironfoot495> compitz: then talk to me when it is done.
[21:25] <compitz> ironfoot495:  how do I do that from live CD? cant boot normal system....
[21:25] <edbian> iceroot, aaah :)  well that's opinion
[21:25] <oCean> mcc: this channel cannot provide support for software which is not in our official repositories
[21:25] <iceroot> edbian: opinion like "unity is usabke"
[21:25] <mcc> ...and I am still getting strange headers not found... it seems like I must be missing something. Is there a "standard" way to include everything needed for gdk?
[21:26] <iceroot> usable
[21:26] <bb> yah that might be true
[21:26] <jost_> n
[21:26] <Seveas> mcc, this is why pkg-config was invented
[21:26] <Melissa2012> edbian: if HP was thinking, they would know they should have preinstalled 64bit W7 seeing it comes with 4GB Ram.  I guess HP are a bunch of headless chickens? hehe
[21:26] <ironfoot495> compitz: do you have the option of down loading it?
[21:27] <compitz> ironfoot495: , i guess, i have internet connection...
[21:27] <mcc> ocean: okay... well, the program in question, the maintainer basically disappeared into the ether, so let's just pretend i'm the maintainer. i have a program where i want to include gdk headers, but when i naively include gdk/gdkx.h the built in ubuntu gdk header includes lots of other things that i don't know how to find...
[21:27] <guntbert> mcc: not that I can help, but are you actually talking about gtk (instead of gdk)?
[21:27] <mcc> seveas: hm ok so i should be using pkg-config for this?
[21:27] <edbian> Melissa2012, If I were you I wouldn't think it was very funny.  They sold you .8Gb of ram that you can't use with your OS!
[21:27] <benbloom> if you have dual core processors and a 32 bit machine you can run 4*1G ram chips right edbian, Melissa2012?
[21:27] <ironfoot495> compitz: if you do  that and install that way!!
[21:28] <daysahead5> how do you use sshfs?
[21:28] <compitz> ironfoot495:  i dont see a possible how-to-do-this
[21:28] <iceroot> benbloom: or 1x4gb ram chip or 2x 2 gb ram chip
[21:28] <mcc> guntbert: difficult to say. i think gdk is all that is necessary because we're just tryign to open a window
[21:28] <mcc> and draw opengl in it
[21:28] <benbloom> and with a dual core 64b machine it's 4*2gig? i was
[21:28] <edbian> benbloom, iceroot i've never heard this before.  Why does this work?
[21:28] <iceroot> benbloom: no
[21:28] <Seveas> mcc, generally you use that as CFLAGS=$(pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0) and LDFLAGS=$(pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0)
[21:28] <subman> How to install a .deb file with apt-get from a local directory?
[21:28] <guntbert> mcc: ok, please ignore  me then ....
[21:28] <iceroot> benbloom: 32bit supports 4gb memory, doesnt matter how big a ram-chip is
[21:28] <mcc> guntbert, no, it' shelpful, thanks...
[21:28] <yeehaw> subman: dpkg -i file.dep
[21:28] <Seveas> mcc, but "fixing insane build systems" goes quite beyond the scope of #ubuntu :)
[21:29] <iceroot> benbloom: 64bit supports more then 4gb memory (also doesnt matter how big a ram chip is)
[21:29] <benbloom> ok and 64b supports up to 8?
[21:29] <mcc> seveas: oh, that worked beautfiully, thanks
[21:29] <yeehaw> subman: sorry, I meant: Sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[21:29] <ironfoot495> when you get on line download ubuntu 10.04 either desktop or server ubuntu server10.04.3
[21:29] <iceroot> benbloom: and it has nothing to do with the amount of cpu cores
[21:29] <mcc> or, well, it looks like it worked beautifully, i'll test :P
[21:29] <Seveas> iceroot, 32 bit with PAE too :)
[21:29] <iceroot> Seveas: PAE is not 32bit
[21:29] <Seveas> Linux lightning 3.2.0-7-generic-pae #13-Ubuntu SMP Sat Dec 24 20:09:18 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[21:29] <Seveas> my uname begs to differ
[21:29] <Edward2> Hello. When I click on Sound Settings -> Input and try to change the Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do that?
[21:29] <iceroot> Seveas: and pae is bad
[21:29] <subman> yeehaw, Thanks, I understood the sudo portion.  Just not the dpkg command.  Trying it now.
[21:30] <benbloom> thanks for the info iceroot.
[21:30] <BluesKaj> subman, use the dpkg -i command in terminal in the package dir
[21:30] <mcc> seveas: well, as i alluded earlier, i'm actually working on a fork of this library at this point, so the question is more like "help me fix my insane build system" :(
[21:30] <iceroot> Seveas: http://www.realworldtech.com/forums/index.cfm?action=detail&id=78966&threadid=78766&roomid=2
[21:30] <ironfoot495> if you install the server use xubuntu-desktop or apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:30] <compitz> ironfoot495:  as far as i can see i cant install sth. on installed system, when i dont have a screen there, and when Im using the lucid live cd at the momnet, is ther e a way?
[21:30] <edbian> the PAE kernel allows 32 bit hardware to address more than 3.2Gb of ram
[21:30] <Seveas> iceroot, don't trust torvalds blindly.
[21:30] <ironfoot495> compitz: talking to you.
[21:31] <yeehaw> Edward2: What happens if you connect the microphone to the line in port?
[21:31] <iceroot> edbian: and pae is using 36bit cpu extention
[21:31] <edbian> cool!
[21:31]  * edbian never knew that
[21:31] <iceroot> Seveas: what is wrong about the text?
[21:31] <yeehaw> Edward2: Probably won't work, but when I expiremented with osx86 ports were mixed up often
[21:31] <ironfoot495> compitz: the other way is to go to some else and download it or find a smaller screen to take care of that.
[21:31] <iceroot> Seveas: especially the "virtual memory section"
[21:31] <voan_> hi
[21:32] <ironfoot495> what size screen do you have?
[21:32] <compitz> ironfoot495: this is a maze for me, does this mean a reinstall of lucid?
[21:32] <Melissa2012> edbian: It came with 4GB ram
[21:32] <iceroot> Seveas: if your cpu supports amd64 there is no single reason to use 32bit or pae
[21:32] <edbian> Melissa2012, yeah, so?  (I know that, you already told me that)
[21:32] <Melissa2012> edbian: yeah I hear ya
[21:32] <edbian> :)
[21:32] <dankest> Is there any way to recover deleted data?
[21:32] <ironfoot495> yes because you will just keep going in circles.
[21:32] <iceroot> dankest: your backup
[21:32] <ironfoot495> been there done that.
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: not an option
[21:33] <Seveas> iceroot, crappy proprietary 32-bot only software
[21:33] <guntbert> !who | ironfoot495
[21:33] <Melissa2012> benbloom: here is my laptop: http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0006-2102681/computers-and-it-equipment/hp-pavilion-dv6-2111tx-15-6-hd-c-i5-520m-4gb-640gb-nvidia-gt230m
[21:33] <iceroot> dankest: then learn to use backups in the future
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: thanks for the sage advice
[21:33] <iceroot> dankest: which is a good option
[21:33] <Seveas> that's my reason to have an 8-gb 32-bit box
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: it is
[21:33] <ironfoot495> compitz: just calm down and I promise I can help you if you follow my instructions
[21:33] <iceroot> !recover | dankest
[21:33] <Melissa2012> will Ubuntu have the proper nvidia-gt230m video drivers?
[21:33] <compitz> ironfoot495: so you solved your problem by reintalling? this was somethign I wanted to avoid(, please type my name)
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: thanks, I appreciate it
[21:34] <edbian> !blank-screen
[21:34] <compitz> ironfoot495: screen size is 19'
[21:34] <Melissa2012> iceroot: 32 bit doesnt support 4GB Ram I was told, only up to 3.2
[21:34] <ironfoot495> compitz: yes because right now you dont have a screen right so you have to find a way to get back on line than we as a family of ubuntu can help you
[21:34] <iceroot> Melissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory
[21:34] <edbian> Melissa2012, that is true (unless you use the PAE kernel in linux)
[21:34] <compitz> ironfoot495: thats nice of you thx
[21:35] <edbian> iceroot, proof please?
[21:35] <Melissa2012> benbloom: Mine has Intel Core i5-520M ((Dual Core) 2.40GHz/3MB L3 Cache/2.5GT/s DMI)
[21:35] <Sidewinder1> dankest, I believe there's something like "Testdisk", that might help.
[21:35] <iceroot> Melissa2012: which includes your vga memory and some other pci-adress-bus-things
[21:35] <voan_> guys
[21:35] <Edward2> yeehaw: Didn't get anything.
[21:35]  * Cinober is now auto-away after 15m idle
[21:35] <voan_> can i ask something ?
[21:35] <iceroot> edbian: logic is a good proof :)
[21:35] <oCean> Cinober: please disable your auto away script
[21:35] <edbian> iceroot, show your logic then
[21:35] <dankest> Sidewinder1: thanks
[21:35] <iceroot> edbian: 4gm memory != 4g ram
[21:35] <Sidewinder1> :D
[21:35] <ironfoot495> compitz:  if that is all you have I suggest that you find a way to download ubuntu 10.04 and you will be alright.
[21:35] <guntbert> voan_: if it is ubuntu support related of course
[21:35] <iceroot> edbian:  which includes your vga memory and some other pci-adress-bus-things
[21:35] <Melissa2012> iceroot: I was told that the benefit of using 64bit Ubuntu was that it can use all of my 4GB ram and thart 32bit only uses 3.2Gb ram max.  Are you saying thats not true?
[21:36] <yeehaw> Edward2: Try running: alsamixer
[21:36] <vouth> Ha! GNUstep, Wine, Plasma widgets, and Dolphin . . . all inside GNOME! Screenshot as proof: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCZTYzNzQ1NzctZTdlNy00ZGY1LWFjYWQtN2NkMzk0YThlMDNh&hl=en_US
[21:36] <iceroot> edbian: so 32bit can adress 4gb (easy mathematic logic)
[21:36] <benbloom> yes Melissa2012. it's a nice 64bit machine. you get ubuntu64b on that baby, you'll never look back
[21:36] <edbian> ahhh
[21:36] <yeehaw> Edward2: Here you can maybe unmute your mic input
[21:36] <edbian> but usually we have 800 Mb of reserved memory for video cards and stuff
[21:36] <compitz> ironfoot495: i am online using my usual screen, i also have a live cd 10.4, but i dont wanna reinstall
[21:36]  * edbian gets it
[21:36] <mcc> seveas: your pkg-config line fixed everything, it compiles now. uhh... i'll find out in a minute if it links :)
[21:36] <yeehaw> if it says MM its muted and with the M-key you can unmute it. Else you might be able to up the volume with the arrow keys
[21:36] <edbian> Melissa2012, you cannot support more than 4Gb of memory with 32 bit.  4Gb is the limit
[21:36] <voan_> i have old laptop and would like to use as picture frame
 Melissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory  <--- can someone confirm this please?  because I was told 32bit Ubuntu or 32 bit Windows cannot use the full 4GB ram
[21:36] <iceroot> Melissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory (vga and other things included) amd64 can adress more then 4gb memory (vga and other things included)
[21:36] <guntbert> vouth: don't advertise here
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: i told you why it is not 4gb
[21:37] <voan_> which version of linus should i install on my old laptop !
[21:37] <daysahead5> what's the cap on 64 bit?
[21:37] <Melissa2012> so if thats the case, then why do I need the 64bit Ubuntu seeing I only have 4GB ram?
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: because there is also the vga memory includes and other adress-things
[21:37] <voan_> how is about small linux
[21:37] <vouth> guntbert: I didn't know that chuckling about my personal Ubuntu hacks was advertising
[21:37] <edbian> daysahead5, theoretical or real practical limit?
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: ...
[21:37] <voan_> its only 50 mb
[21:37] <daysahead5> both :)
[21:37] <ironfoot495> I hav'nt use the live cd so Iwon't tell you hat to do there but I got my best results using an .iso
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: you have 4gb ram and maybe 512mb vga ram
[21:37] <Melissa2012> iceroot: so should I install 64bit Ubuntu or 32bit?
[21:37] <Melissa2012> iceroot: nVIDIA GeForce GT 230M (1GB dedicated)
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: which means 32bit will adress 3.5gb ram and 512mb vga ram
[21:38] <Edward2> yeehaw: All is unmuted. Volume full.
[21:38] <edbian> daysahead5, theory
[21:38] <Guest16486> Memory
[21:38] <Guest16486> A 32-bit computer has a word size of 32 bits, this limits the memory theoretically to 4GB. This barrier has been extended through the use of 'Physical Address Extension' (or PAE) which increases the limit to 64GB although the memory access above 4GB will be slightly slower. (Ref Ubuntu website)
[21:38] <iceroot> Melissa2012: you should always install amd64 if the cpu suports it
[21:38] <edbian> daysahead5, theory: 16 exa-bytes
[21:38] <mcc> ok it linked too
[21:38] <guntbert> vouth: this channel is for support only - it might be a laugh in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <Melissa2012> iceroot: ok
[21:38] <daysahead5> so how do people have 24 gb machines?
[21:38] <voan_> @iceroot
[21:38] <iceroot> daysahead5: with amd64
[21:38] <AlanBell> Melissa2012: both will work fine, if I were you I would go for 64 bit
[21:38] <edbian> daysahead5, with 64 bit arch which supports up to 16 exa-bytes of memory
[21:38] <daysahead5> ooh you said exa bytes woah haha
[21:38] <Melissa2012> iceroot: but seeing I only have 4GB ram, there will be no gains or benefit for me to install Ubuntu 64bit, over the 32bit Ubuntu, right?
[21:38] <skegeek> The monitor light turning orange after the screen has gone black means the system stopped sending the video output correct?
[21:39] <edbian> yeah
[21:39] <edbian> that's a lot
[21:39] <ironfoot495> and I've done over and over for a couple of years, when ever something went wrong of course.
[21:39] <yeehaw> Edward2: hmm.. I'm afraid I do not know then. The rest of you sound does work? You're sure your mic is attached right, on? What application are you using with it? Can you see ith there?
[21:39] <daysahead5> that's outrageous
[21:39] <edbian> Melissa2012, very little difference, that's right
[21:39] <iceroot> Melissa2012: again (and the last time) 32bit can adress 4gb memoery (not ram!!!!!!) memory = ram + vga
[21:39] <edbian> daysahead5, but a processor has not been built that allows that much memory yet (ref wikipedia)
[21:39] <Melissa2012> AlanBell: but I only have 4GB ram, so installing the 64bit Ubuntu over 32bit apparently wont make a difference
[21:39] <qwebirc45852> hello. i am trying to install ubuntu on nokia booklet 3G but it seems that the intel GMA500 is causing problems, as i can't seem to get to the GUI of the installer. Any ideas how to solve this?
[21:39] <Melissa2012> iceroot: ok, im confused thats all :)
[21:40] <ironfoot495> compitz: ok happy installing.
[21:40] <compitz> ironfoot495:  please type name so I can see it, but the .iso is the same as cd, i guess? well then as I said, i dont wanna reinstall
[21:40] <vouth> guntbert: ahh, ok. I kind of figured this channel was for everything regarding Ubuntu. Maybe I should have looked at the topic first :-P
[21:40] <CarlFK> Melissa2012: you have more than 4.
[21:40] <Edward2> yeehaw: I just tested with Audacity, got options to choose my input so I can record sound. Just that Skype follows "system defaults" which keeps reverting to Analog Line-In.
[21:40] <edbian> Melissa2012, you have 4Gb of ram and some amount of ram on your video card
[21:40] <ironfoot495> compitz: ok that better?
[21:40] <Melissa2012> CarlFK: nVIDIA GeForce GT 230M (1GB dedicated)
[21:40] <Melissa2012> .  Does that mean my video card has 1GB ram?
[21:40] <edbian> Melissa2012, so you have >4Gb of memory total.
[21:40] <edbian> Melissa2012, yes
[21:40] <Melissa2012> k
[21:41] <Melissa2012> so i have 5GB ram in total, cool ;-)
[21:41] <edbian> Melissa2012, what is the output of free -m   or free -g ?
[21:41] <ChrisJC> Anyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.
[21:41] <yeehaw> Edward2: Ok, so it's not a soundcard or driver problem that's clear:P. Doesn't skype have options in the program self where you can select the default, or does that keep reverting too
[21:41] <iceroot> Melissa2012: that means from the 4gb 32bit can adress 1gb is going to the vga, so your 32bit system can adress 3gb ram
[21:41] <edbian> Melissa2012, you have 5Gb of memory (but this is just vocab now)
[21:41] <ironfoot495> compitz: sometimes you save more time redoing than sitting there in a daze.
[21:41] <benbloom> is there a way to find out my processor's model number on the CLI?
[21:41] <Melissa2012> edbian: ive not installed ubuntu yet, I just downloaded the 64bit Ubuntu now.  Installing it later today :)
[21:41] <Guest16486> Melissa2012: Don't want to crash this thread but there is some info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[21:41] <iceroot> benbloom: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:41] <ironfoot495> just get the iso and do it ok.
[21:41] <edbian> Melissa2012, ahh, what are you waiting for?!?!
[21:42] <Melissa2012> edbian: i was chatting lol
[21:42] <Melissa2012> :-)
[21:42] <edbian> Melissa2012, :)
[21:42] <oCean> benbloom: try sudo lshw -C cpu
[21:42] <Melissa2012> Guest16486: thanks
[21:42] <Melissa2012> bbl :)
[21:43] <Edward2> yeehaw: Only options are "PulseAudio server (local)", and an info: "It appears your system has PulseAudio running: to change sound settings you need to use your Desktop Manager volume control or PulseAudio volume control."
[21:43] <samsul> !ebox
[21:43] <iceroot> Edward2: the package "pavucontrol" is nice for that
[21:44] <ironfoot495> compitz: got some rat killing to do of my bb.
[21:44] <compitz> ironfoot, i dont see a way to do that, i got the iso on the cd, though
[21:44] <oilman> best torrent client with a cute webinterface? (been looking at torrentflux, but I kinda want to avoid mysql)
[21:44] <kcj> How do I stop my system from shutting down when my battery is apparently "critical"?
[21:44] <ironfoot495> comp can you see the screen?
[21:44] <guntbert> !best | oilman
[21:44] <edbian> kcj, charge your battery
[21:44] <ironfoot495> compitz: can you see the screen?
[21:44] <compitz> ironfoot495: bb? what screen do you mean?
[21:45] <yeehaw> Edward2: hmm.. I would try what iceroot said. I've got no clue about PulseAudio really
[21:45] <kcj> edbian, The battery is fine.
[21:45] <Edward2> iceroot: Downloaded, opening, selecting Port from Analog Line-In to Analog Microphone, it just reset itself to Analog Line-In.
[21:45] <edbian> kcj, in the power settings, search for 'power' in the dash
[21:45] <ironfoot495> compitz: you said that you could not see the screen? but if you have the iso go ahead and run it.
[21:45] <kcj> edbian, I'm using gnome classic.
[21:46] <edbian> kcj, I don't remember.  It's in the gui somewhere.  System -> Admin -> power*
[21:46] <compitz> ironfoot495: but then i will be reinstalling, right?=
[21:46] <benbloom> so if I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor. I should be able to put 4x2G ram chips in it?
[21:46] <ironfoot495> yes
[21:46] <compitz> ironfoot495:  no other possibles way here, and to edbian?
[21:46] <edbian> benbloom, yep  (make sure you're running 64 bit OS as well(
[21:46] <ironfoot495> compitz: yes that will give you a better chance in getting things going.
[21:46] <Duker> I seem unable to prevent my java from going to sleep.  As soon as my minecraft server comes up, java sleeps.  Any way I can fix this?
[21:46] <benbloom> sure am edbian
[21:46] <Ethern0t> hallo
[21:46] <edbian> compitz, follow ironfoot495's advice
[21:47] <kcj> edbian, I know where it is. There is no "do nothing" option for when the battery is critical.
[21:47] <edbian> kcj, lemme look
[21:47] <compitz> edbian ironfoot495 , thats what i wanted to avoid, i think i need to backup stuff first, can I avoid at alll, a reinstall?
[21:47] <ironfoot495> compitz: bb:
[21:47] <edbian> kcj, mmm,  apparently not.  I'm not sure.  I could start googling
[21:48] <oilman> ubottu: ait. :) thanks for the help anyhow
[21:48] <edbian> compitz, boot, press shift during boot, launch recovery mode, purge nouveau and install nvidia-96
[21:48] <compitz> ironfoot495: what doues "bb" mean?
[21:48] <edbian> compitz, then you should be back where you started
[21:48] <guntbert> kcj: if the battery reports "critical" then you should look into the cause
[21:49] <ironfoot495> compitz: I'll be back!
[21:49] <benbloom> sorry to go on with this edbian, but i are there no other HW considerations that could limit my max
[21:49] <skegeek> repost: The monitor light turning orange after the screen has gone black means the system stopped sending the video output correct?
[21:49] <edbian> benbloom, none
[21:49] <benbloom> http://www.chiplist.com/AMD_Athlon_64_X2_Dual_Core_processor_Windsor_2MB_Rev_F/tree3f-subsection--2228-/ makes me think otherwise
[21:49] <hwit> hi. I installed git-core from https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa and I want to use gitosis with it. When I try to install gitosis via apt I get a broken package error. Is there a gitosis PPA that works with the current git-core? I'm on 10.04.3 LTS.
[21:49] <edbian> benbloom, you're talking about what?  8Gb of ram?  That's not an issue, my friend has 24Gb
[21:49] <kcj> guntbert, If the battery was actually critical the battery light would be flashing.
[21:50] <benbloom> sorry. that was all supposed to be one line. thanks again edbian
[21:50] <edbian> Ben64, reading your link
[21:50] <compitz> edbian, well i started there two days before yesterday, yes, a recovery-mode would be great, but how can I use it??
[21:50] <compitz> ironfoot495: thx
[21:50] <edbian> compitz, press shift during  boot (before you see anything 'ubuntu' related)
[21:50] <compitz> edbian, do you mean on the bios screen?
[21:50] <benbloom> edbian: it was under Architecture: 128 bit (dual-channel), 200/400/800 MHz, DDR2-800 memory controller: max. 8 x 512 Mbyte = 4 Gbyte (4 x 1 Gbyte double-sided PC2-6400 memory module).
[21:51] <edbian> Ben64, mmm, I see that now
[21:51] <guntbert> kcj: ack, but it still seems to report that status - it might be a dirty contact....
[21:51] <edbian> benbloom, I see that now
[21:51] <ChrisJC> Anyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.
[21:51] <edbian> compitz, shortly after bios
[21:51] <ironfoot495> compitz: I can see a response to me even when I'm some where else so just do what you got to do I will monitor ok.
[21:51] <kcj> guntbert, The hardware is fine.
[21:51] <edbian> compitz, _not_ the bios but right after it
[21:52] <edbian> benbloom, curious, I'm not sure why they put that or what the point of a 64 bit processor is if it can't address more than 4Gb
[21:52] <ironfoot495> compitz:  a lot of good people have helped me a long the way so I'm glad to be able to give back.
[21:52] <scarper_> #jaquerespeis
[21:52] <scarper_> sorry
[21:52] <edbian> benbloom, perhaps they made a mistake on the site and those stats are for a different 32 bit proc
[21:52] <benbloom> i know right?
[21:52] <edbian> benbloom, My advice is to try the 64 bit Ubuntu with all your ram
[21:52] <compitz> edbian, right after bios, it will ask me for my luks-pass so if i press a botton itll be a part of my luks pass
[21:53] <edbian> benbloom, If you haven't bought the proc / ram contact the company and have them clairfy
[21:53] <guntbert> kcj: I hear you - but you might still want to look for the reason :)
[21:53] <edbian> cla-fairy
[21:53] <edbian> compitz, what is luks-pass ?
[21:53] <benbloom> thanks for the time. I've had strange problems with RAM in this pc before
[21:53] <kcj> guntbert, :/
[21:53] <edbian> benbloom, sure! :)
[21:53] <pooltable> how to run android on linux???
[21:53] <compitz> edbian, im running an encrypted system, well usually, when not on live-cd
[21:53] <theadmin> pooltable: lolwut. Not possible, Android is a separate operating system.
[21:54] <pooltable> what about a VM?
[21:54] <compitz> edbian luks pass is the password for mounting system-hd
[21:54] <kcj> guntbert, I just want it to stop forcing a shut down if the battery is apparently critical.
[21:54] <theadmin> pooltable: That might be, search for Android ports to PCs and run those in a VM.
[21:55] <pavel_GS> hello!
[21:55] <Edward2> iceroot: When selecting Port from Analog Line-In to Analog Microphone in pavucontrol, it just reset itself to Analog Line-In.
[21:55] <fogdart> hi there
[21:55] <pooltable> thanks theadmin
[21:55] <edbian> compitz, right after the luks pass then
[21:55] <pavel_GS> I'm having trouble with my laptop webcam who doesn't seems willing to work
[21:55] <fogdart> anyone knows how to disable .trash folder creation in ubuntu ?
[21:55] <pavel_GS> *seem
[21:55] <edbian> compitz, press shift like a mad-man all over the place, trying different times until you get the grub menu
[21:56] <guntbert> kcj: understandable, as a dirty hack you could try to unload the acpi-module??
[21:56] <Duker> I am being denied perimssion to increase the priority of a process as admin, is there a better way to prevent a process from ever going to sleep?
[21:56] <kcj> heh
[21:56] <Duker> I seem unable to prevent my java from sleeping while its running
[21:56] <skegeek> I don't suppose anyone is using a Toshiba Satellite laptop??
[21:56] <compitz> edbian, then all I see is terminal,that tells me its unlocking the hd but icant type, 2 seconds later blck screen (shut off)
[21:56] <guntbert> compitz: use the left <shift>
[21:56] <yeehaw> edbian: Hehe, I always do that while accessing bios or grub or verbose or something :p
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[21:56] <FloodBot1> ZuruZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:56] <compitz> guntbert, never tried the right shift
[21:57] <edbian> compitz, go crazy with shift at all different times
[21:57] <compitz> edbian, well the before or after pass?
[21:57] <fogdart> hi there - ill repeat my question - how to disable the recyclebin/trashcan -folder creation in ubuntu ?
[21:57] <compitz> edbian, well theN* before or after pass?
[21:57] <edbian> compitz, try both!
[21:58] <edbian> com641, but I think after
[21:58] <pavel_GS> does anyone knows how to fix my samsung n210 cam?
[21:58] <edbian> compitz, but I think after.  Also I have to go now
[21:58] <Duker> Any way to stop a process from sleeping?
[21:58] <kcj> guntbert, I want a permanent solution.
[21:58] <pavel_GS> when I test it, it looks like in movies: white bar, yellow bar, cyan bar, green bar...
[21:58] <compitz> edbian, i think all that does is switching from picture to text, i cant type then
[21:59] <guntbert> kcj: I guess, but if that dirty hack works you can (temporarily) blacklist that module...
[21:59] <RHExcelion> I'm getting the strangest error
[22:00] <kcj> guntbert, Can I restart with noacpi?
[22:00] <RHExcelion> tzdata is failing to configure due to something about the date being invalid
[22:01] <guntbert> kcj: of course you can  --  I don't know if it will help - sorry
[22:01] <pavel_GS> well...
[22:02] <compitz> how do I launch ubuntu (lucid) in recovery mode???????????????????????
[22:03] <mucahit> hello is there anyone who can install ubuntu on macbook pro 8,1?
[22:03] <guntbert> compitz: from the grub menu :-)
[22:03] <RHExcelion> Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:04] <compitz> guntbert, which I get by pressing shift "like madman all over the place"?
[22:04] <zimbres> hi, would someone give some advices on how to install a driver for canon printer, and where to find them?
[22:04] <RHExcelion> date: invalid date 'Fri Dec 30 22:03:43 UTC 2011'
[22:04] <trixi> hey!
[22:04] <wrecksdart> howdy
[22:05] <guntbert> compitz: essentially yes, although preesing <shift> after the boot beep until the grub menu appears should suffice
[22:05] <compitz> RHExcellion, have you run an update lately, i think ther was one
[22:05] <benbloom> running kde with 2 monitors on a dual head card. often, when i drag a window from my right monitor into my left, it maximizes horizontally. where might i find this rule to disable it?
[22:05] <RHExcelion> Uh... what update?
[22:06] <mucahit> is there any solution to "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" problem in macbook pro 8,1?
[22:06] <RHExcelion> This is a custom jaunty installation running on armel
[22:06] <jaequery> hey guys, how can i tell what type of HD i'm running? basically i want to verify if the server i'm on indeed is an SSD
[22:06] <compitz> guntbert: thanks, but I think about my luks-passphrase  screen that shows up 7 seconds after the BEEP
[22:06] <auronandace> !jaunty | RHExcelion
[22:06] <RHExcelion> I know
[22:07] <RHExcelion> I can't upgrade it
[22:07] <troulouliou_dev> hi as soon as i install proproetary driver on dell M1530 , nvidia 8M , gnome-shell and unity-3D fails to load , however gkxinfo report no rpoblem and nvidia drivers are used , any idea ?
[22:07] <trixi> terrible situation here. I have ubuntu 11.04 on usb and all of the sudden it gave me an error, that there are no sudoers files!!! What da?! Anyway, I've done some reading and it came out, that after upgrading kernel, this might happen.. Come on! So now, I fired up a live cd of old ubuntu, pluged in the 11from usb, and I'm looking a way of getting to the files I have on that system on usb. Any ideas how?
[22:07] <auronandace> RHExcelion: and we can't support it
[22:07] <compitz> RHExcelion: what distro are you using?
[22:07] <RHExcelion> Maybe you can't, but I'm sure there's someone out of the random 1431 other people on here who can help me
[22:08] <wrecksdart> Anyone know why apache2 won't follow symlinks even though I've got it set in httpd.conf? (wordpress refuses to save a file in the remote folder)
[22:08] <glebihan> RHExcelion, no because it is not supported here
[22:08] <guntbert> compitz: did you encrypt the whole installation?
[22:08] <wrecksdart> on Ubuntu 11.10
[22:08] <compitz> RHExcelion: well then. happy new year
[22:08] <compitz> guntbert, yes I did
[22:09] <guntbert> compitz: sorry, I have no experience with that
[22:10] <compitz> guntbert, well thx, GRUB menu doesnt show up no matter what I press, but it would be logical, if shows up after I enter my pass wouldnt it?
[22:10] <glebihan> wrecksdart, did you check permissions ?
[22:11] <trixi> so, anyone? please help.
[22:11] <guntbert> compitz: probably
[22:11] <wrecksdart> gleb: oy vey--I feel like I've been through the permissions ringer
[22:11] <wrecksdart> It's a default install of WP, but I'm trying to locate the uploads folder to another disk
[22:11] <wrecksdart> www-data has perms over the whole thing
[22:12] <compitz> guntbert, if i got to this GRUB menu I nver see, can I intall the driver then, so its permanent, therorhtically?
[22:12] <glebihan> wrecksdart, anything in apache's log file ?
[22:12] <wrecksdart> gleb: I'll check...
[22:13] <guntbert> compitz: I have lost track of your real issue - sorry
[22:13] <pooltable> just went to 11.10 with xfce inter face
[22:13] <compitz> guntbert, black screen after nvdia driver removal on startup
[22:15] <compitz> fdyb
[22:15] <compitz> sorry..
[22:16] <guntbert> compitz: my last nvidia system is gone, I fixed several issues after removal via the recovery system - why can't you enter the luks-password and get to the grub-menu?
[22:17] <compitz> guntbert: well if a pressed a bottom it would switch from loading picture to text version, no way to type there, seconds later black screen
[22:17] <trixi> my ubuntu installed on usb crashed. Can I get my files back from it?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> compitz: What happens currently when you boot the computer while holding shift?
[22:17] <compitz> guntbert, well maybe this is a keyboard issue, im thinking now, i use german dead grave acute...
[22:18] <wrecksdart> gleb: not really.  WP's web interface is the most verbose, telling me I can't create the directory as asking if the parent dir is writeable
[22:18] <ChrisJC> Anyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.
[22:18] <guntbert> compitz: in that case use a live CD
[22:18] <compitz> Jordan_U: it would switch from loading picture to text version, no way to type there, seconds later black screen
[22:18] <Jordan_U> compitz: What do you mean by "loading picture"?
[22:19] <trixi> ChrisJC ask.
[22:19] <wrecksdart> other than that, the error logs are clean (mod_deflate.c registers the compression of the image file, but that's about it)
[22:19] <compitz> Jordan_U:  ubuntu, and 5 or six blinking balls under it
[22:19] <Jordan_U> compitz: Are you sure that your keyboard works at all?
[22:20] <Duker> Any reason why a process that i dont want to sleep insists on sleeping?
[22:20] <owenll> ChrisJC: #aircrack-ng
[22:20] <Duker> And why I cant change a process' priority in sys monitor
[22:20] <compitz> guntbert, pressing shift in live cd will be able to load grub menu, so i can boot the recovery mode from my encryted hd? that would be nice then...
[22:21] <glebihan> wrecksdart, really sounds like permissions issues. Could you paste the exact message that WP gives you ?
[22:21] <compitz> Jordan_U:  as you can see Im typing .-)
[22:21] <trixi> ChrisJC when it comes to broadcome cards, they usually work fine, but don't support the injection mode.
[22:21] <Jordan_U> compitz: You're currently working from the same machine?
[22:21] <compitz> Jordan_U: would that change something?
[22:22] <guntbert> compitz: no, but you would be able to edit grub settings,...
[22:22] <Edward2> Ok, how about another approach. What file does the Sound Settings save to in Ubuntu 11.10? Hoping to change the Connector from there.
[22:22] <wrecksdart> glebihan: Sorry for the error dump: Item_0001.jpg” has failed to upload due to an error
[22:22] <wrecksdart> Unable to create directory /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12. Is its parent directory writable by the server?
[22:23] <compitz> guntbert , so what am I editing then, exactly?
[22:23] <wrecksdart> glebihan: the "uploads" dir is the symlink over to the other disk
[22:23] <compitz> Jordan_U:  yes I am working there
[22:23] <glebihan> wrecksdart, and the 2011 folder already exists ?
[22:23] <wrecksdart> glebihan: It does
[22:24] <hwit> hi. is there a good guide on how to upgrade server 10.04 LTS to the current (non LTS) version?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> compitz: Unless you've changed your grub settings, grub's menu should show if shift is being held when grub loads. If that's not happening then grub isn't being told by the BIOS that the shift key is pressed. That could either happen because your keyboard isn't working (which is not the case) or your BIOS doesn't support your keyboard (so the follow up question is can you use your keyboard in BIOS menus before grub loads)?
[22:24] <wrecksdart> glebihan: I suppose I could delete it and  see if the server will create it on it's own
[22:24] <trixi> guys, I'm sorry about repeating myself, but I'm running out of time.
[22:24] <glebihan> wrecksdart, could try, though I don't think it would help
[22:24] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | hwit
[22:24] <trixi> Is there any way, to get ny files back from the system installed on usb?
[22:25] <trixi> please help!
[22:25] <compitz> Jordan_U: , yes i can enter the bios menu and edit stuff there, for example
[22:25] <guntbert> compitz: you *can* edit everything from the live CD (you will need to mount your HD and then maybe to chroot.....) but thats today beyond my ability ...
[22:25] <Jordan_U> trixi: Most likely, yes. You should be able to just boot from another LiveUSB/CD, mount the USB, and access your files. Though if you've been using "persistance" I don't know off hand how to mount that properly via aufs.
[22:26] <compitz> guntbert:  what would you edit
[22:26] <CCReggioCal> azz
[22:26] <compitz> guntbert: in the grub settings?
[22:26] <trixi> Jordan_U via aufs? yes, it's been persistant.
[22:26] <hwit> Jordan_U: thanks
[22:26] <Jordan_U> compitz: And you've been holding shift from the moment you turn on the computer (you can even start holding shift before you turn the computer on, if your BIOS doesn't complain about a "stuck key" like they did in decades past).
[22:26] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:27] <owenll> m
[22:27] <guntbert> compitz: please stay with Jordan_U , he will help better
[22:27] <wrecksdart> glebihan: the symlinked directory has 755 perms (www-data as owner) as does the folder structure under it
[22:27] <compitz> Jordan_U:  ill try that, does GRUB menu load then and i can start the recovery mode?
[22:27] <glebihan> wrecksdart, in the settings, you have a "Store uploads in this folder" option under "miscellaneous". What's the value of that setting ?
[22:28] <compitz> guntbert , your help has been highly appreciated thx.
[22:28] <guntbert> compitz: Good luck :-)
[22:28] <Kiten> periodically my sound will stop working and i'll have to switch to a tty and back to tty7 to get my sound back, anyone have any idea whats going on ?
[22:28] <Jordan_U> compitz: Correct. And remember that you need to hold shift. If anyone told you that you're supposed to press and release it repeatedly they were mistaken.
[22:28] <compitz> guntbert: THX
[22:28] <wrecksdart> glebihan: it's blank
[22:29] <compitz> Jordan_U:  thanks, will you be on lateron?
[22:29] <glebihan> wrecksdart, try setting it to wp-content/uploads/
[22:29] <trixi> Jordan_U via aufs? yes, it's been persistant. what about fdisk?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> compitz: I don't know.
[22:30] <compitz> Jordan_U:  well then thx for helping and a happy and healthy next year to you
[22:31] <Jordan_U> compitz: You're welcome, and same to you :)
[22:31] <compitz> Jordan_U: thx
[22:32] <wrecksdart> glebihan: Nope
[22:33] <wrecksdart> glebihan: but if I get rid of the symlink so it's pointing to the wp-content/uploads folder on the local disk, it works fine
[22:33] <trixi> Jordan_U aufs?
[22:33] <glebihan> wrecksdart, are the permissions on /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/ the same as on /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/
[22:33] <glebihan> ?
[22:34] <reesk> how do i remove lamp from ubuntu
[22:34] <munzxttt> hi! ... is it possible to update the 'ubuntu software center'  in 10.04 ?!
[22:34] <Jordan_U> trixi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_mount
[22:35] <wrecksdart> glebihan: in this case, no.  wp-content/uploads is the symlink, and has 0777, where wp-content/uploads/2011 is the remote dir with 0755
[22:36] <trixi> Jordan_U so fdisk won't do?
[22:36] <munzxttt> hi! ... is it possible to update the 'ubuntu software center'  in 10.04 ?!
[22:36] <glebihan> wrecksdart, and both are owned by www-data ?
[22:36] <Enricodemedici> can I start Ubuntu Live on a macbook?
[22:37] <Kiten> muzxttt you can refresh the cache from terminal, sudo apt-get update (this refreshes the cache
[22:37] <Kiten> )
[22:37] <Jordan_U> trixi: A "persistant" Ubuntu root is the union of a read only filesystem (the squashfs found in the LiveCD), and a read-write filesystem (the ext4 "casper-rw" partition). You may be able to access all the files you've added by just mounting the casper-rw filesystem without making a union between it and the squashfs but I'm not sure.
[22:37] <Enricodemedici> from usb stick?
[22:37] <wrecksdart> glebihan: they both are owned by www-data
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Enricodemedici: Yes, but it's difficult. If possilbe, it's recommended to use an actual CD, specifically one burned from the -mac iso.
[22:38] <wrecksdart> glebihan: I've crowned the /var/www/wordpress dir recursively, in addition to the remote folder
[22:38] <munzxttt> Kiten : i am new to linux and i do run 11.04 in my laptop and just installed 10.04 and did not like how it looks actually i could not get the apps i wanted !!! so can i update it?!
[22:38] <Enricodemedici> @jordan ok! thx
[22:38] <wrecksdart> glebihan: *chowned
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Enricodemedici: You're welcome.
[22:39] <munzxttt> Kiten : i am new to linux and i do run 11.04 in my laptop and just installed 10.04 on my home pc and did not like how it looks actually i could not get the apps i wanted !!! so can i update it?! :
[22:39] <Kiten> munzxttt, you don't need to double post
[22:39] <Kiten> munzxttt, so you want to update 10.04 to 11.04 ?
[22:39] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:40] <munzxttt> Kiten : sorry :0
[22:40] <munzxttt> Kiten : no! i just want to update the 'software center'!!!! is it possible?!
[22:40] <aBound> munzxttt, I don't think you can update the software center.
[22:40] <Kiten> uh well yes and no, you could change the repository that you use
[22:40] <Jordan_U> trixi: The first thing I would do would be to run "sudo blkid" (which gives more useful and easier to read information that "sudo fdisk -l"), figure out what device is the "casper-rw" partition is, then try mounting it. If I understand how aufs works, it should contain all of the files that you've added or changed while using the LiveUSB, and nothing else.
[22:41] <Kiten> but this isn't really supported and can break your installation
[22:41] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:41] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:41] <glebihan> wrecksdart, well I'm a bit out of ideas, I just ran a test here and symlinks don't seem to be an issue with apache itself, so it may be a WP bug if the permissions are correct
[22:41] <Resistance> !repeat | karl-augustt
[22:41] <munzxttt> Kiten : mmm ... i just want to get other users feedback and the ratings !
[22:41] <Kiten> ???
[22:42] <Kiten> you want to get feedback from particular installs ?
[22:42] <Kiten> * err packages
[22:42] <wrecksdart> glebihan: thanks for checking it out--I've had similar issues with gallery3 and I couldn't seem to sort that out, either.  httpd.conf has +FollowSymLinks as it's only option, so I'm pretty much lost, too
[22:42] <trixi> Jordan_U here's what I did: made dir casper in /mnt/ and tryed to mounte it. It said casper is not a block dev. try -o loop. Yes I tried that and it worked!
[22:42] <Jordan_U> karl-augustt: That's what's supposed to happen as far as I know. Though I've never done an OEM install I would expect that it would need to ask the user about things like what username and password they want to use on first boot.
[22:42] <trixi> I mean, so far, so good....
[22:43] <Kiten> i've not had a chance to look 11.04 over so i'm not sure what you guy's software center looks like
[22:43] <munzxttt> Kiten : yes along with the ratings which is not supported in the older version of the 'software center'
[22:43] <trixi> Jordan_U, thank you for your help!
[22:43] <Jordan_U> trixi: I don't understand what you actually did. Please pastebin the exact commands you ran and thier output.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> trixi: You're welcome.
[22:43] <glebihan> wrecksdart, did you try to make a simple php script that would just create that folder in order to test if you get an error also ?
[22:44] <Kiten> ahh well updating the software center isn't actually supported in other words you'd be better off updating to 11.04
[22:44] <zth> my flash lags and chops alot in fullscreen-mode in firefox. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with propertairy ATI-drivers installed and proper gpu-acceleration. anyone got a clue?
[22:44] <munzxttt> Kiten : thanks for your help ... :)
[22:44] <munzxttt> Kiten : bye
[22:44] <Kiten> i mean its possible to do so but i have no idea what all is necessary to update it nor if the packages are packages a certain way
[22:44] <wrecksdart> glebihan: no clue how to do that, unfortunately--what command would I use?  <?php blah <php>
[22:45] <trixi> Jordan_U, there you go: mkdir /mnt/casper
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/# mount /mnt/here/casper-rw /mnt/casper/
[22:45] <trixi> mount: /mnt/here/casper-rw is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/# mount -o loop  /mnt/here/casper-rw /mnt/casper/
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/# cd /mnt/casper/
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/mnt/casper# ls
[22:45] <FloodBot1> trixi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <trixi> bin   cdrom  home  lost+found  rofs  sbin  usr
[22:45] <Resistance> !pastebin | trixi
[22:45] <glebihan> wrecksdart, <?php mkdir("/var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12");?>
[22:45] <Kiten> trixi use pastie
[22:45] <Kiten> * pastie.org
[22:45] <Kiten> or pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com
[22:46] <glebihan> wrecksdart, save that in a test.php file at the root of your WP install and access that page to see if the folder gets created (and if it doesn't, this time you should have more infos in apache's logs)
[22:46] <wrecksdart> glebihan: great!  I'll try it...
[22:47] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:48] <dfasdfgfagfd> a
[22:48] <wrecksdart> glebihan: mkdir(): Permission denied in /var/www/wordpress/test.php on line 1
[22:49] <nythrow> Hello guys. Could anyone advise me; what DE should I install for a person who has no idea about Linux?
[22:49] <wrecksdart> glebihan: php says perms?!?
[22:49] <iceroot> nythrow: any you want
[22:49] <Kiten> nythrow, uhh why not use ubuntu's default gnome ?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> karl-augustt: Did you see my message? What does the rest of the install process entail? I'm guessing that it's mostly asking the user's Timezone, username, password etc which can't be entered by the OEM.
[22:49] <glebihan> wrecksdart, so it's definitely a permission issue
[22:49] <iceroot> glebihan: does www-data have write-access?
[22:50] <nythrow> But wouldn't GNOME3 too difficult?
[22:50] <wrecksdart> iceroot: it should, yes
[22:50] <Kiten> nythrow, no
[22:50] <iceroot> wrecksdart: and also the symlink?
[22:50] <glebihan> iceroot, it should but apparently doesn't
[22:50] <iceroot> glebihan: then give write-permissions to it with chown
[22:50] <Kiten> nythrow, gnome3 should be very very easy to navigate
[22:51] <wrecksdart> iceroot: lrwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data   46 2011-12-29 22:48 uploads -> blah
[22:51] <glebihan> wrecksdart, does www-data have read and execute permissions on all folders above 2011/12 on the target drive ?
[22:51] <Edward2> nythrow: Try xubuntu. But doesn't really matter. It anyways needs alot of configuring to make it as "user friendly" as possible. :p
[22:51] <iceroot> nythrow: there is no DE which needs specific linux-know-how
[22:51] <nythrow> I will try gnome3.
[22:51] <Kiten> nythrow, what are you needing ? are you wanting to make applications ?
[22:51] <iceroot> wrecksdart: and what is the permission on blah?
[22:51] <wrecksdart> glebihan: not all folders.  I've got dir structure of /media/haus1/website_assets/wordpress_uploads
[22:52] <wrecksdart> glebihan: www-data owns from website_assets down
[22:52] <glebihan> wrecksdart, /media ? is that a USB drive ? if so, which partition type is it ?
[22:52] <wrecksdart> ext4
[22:52] <nythrow> Kiten: I mean. It is a person who needs printing, browsing web etc. No special prefers.
[22:52] <Kiten> gnome3
[22:53] <wrecksdart> glebihan: fstab's entry is set to defaults 0 0
[22:53] <Kiten> if they are coming from windows KDE would be pretty similar to it
[22:53] <wrecksdart> glebihan: maybe that's an issue?
[22:53] <Kiten> nythrow, kubuntu uses kde its pretty similar visually to windows, but if they are ok with something new gnome3 is pretty easy to navigate
[22:53] <glebihan> wrecksdart, I don't think so, let me try something
[22:53] <Jordan_U> !pm | karl-augustt
[22:54] <Kiten> nythrow, i feel obligated to tell you that you can install other DE's without having to reinstall ubuntu
[22:55] <nythrow> Kiten: KDE4 is too heavy.
[22:55] <zth> my flash lags and chops alot in fullscreen-mode in firefox. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with propertairy ATI-drivers installed and proper gpu-acceleration. anyone got a clue? anyone?
[22:55] <Kiten> so you need a lightweight DE/wm
[22:55] <Kiten> ?
[22:55] <nythrow> Kiten: I'm not Ubuntu user, c'mon. I'm arch user.
[22:55] <Kiten> oh then
[22:55] <Kiten> eff gnome3
[22:55] <nythrow> But I don't know what's easy too new Linux users. :P
[22:55] <Kiten> oh nvm then
[22:55] <nythrow> *to;
[22:55] <slbmeh> zth: what flash?
[22:55] <iceroot> nythrow: try unity which is the default in ubuntu
[22:56] <zth> slbmeh, adobe beta, latest through flashaid plugin
[22:56] <Dougy> wut'
[22:56] <Jordan_U> nythrow: Ubuntu is designed to be easy to use for beginners. Just stick to the defaults and you should be about as good as you can get.
[22:56] <Kiten> nythrow, xfce is lightweight and similar to gnome
[22:56] <glebihan> wrecksdart, I think www-data needs to have read and execute permissions on all folders above 2011/12 on the target drive (just ran a test here, and it seems to fail if that is not the case)
[22:56] <skegeek> I'd like help troubleshooting freezing please. I reinstalled (11.10->10.04) without resolve, prior to that I tried removing gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver as I tried xubuntu-desktop to fix as well as disabling compiz for 11.10. The freezes happen after being idle either: after the screen goes black and monitor power light turns orange, within 5 minutes after entering password upon returning, and sometimes randomly when I haven
[22:56] <skegeek> 't been afk at all.
[22:58] <wrecksdart> glebihan: so you're saying I have to give www-data rw perms from /media all the way down (/media/haus1/website_assets/wordpress_uploads)?
[22:58] <karl-augustt> jordan_U: do you receive to my msg? I read and understand yours
[22:58] <karl-augustt> jordan_U: do you receive  my msg? I read and understand yours
[22:58] <glebihan> wrecksdart, not rw but rx
[22:59] <Kiten> skegeek, if you are familiar with terminal would you mind posting your syslog ?
[23:00] <Kiten> * pastie.org your syslog
[23:00] <Jordan_U> karl-augustt: I did. Do you still have a question?
[23:00] <Kiten> please to post :(
[23:00] <wrecksdart> glebihan: hmm…everything (else) on that remote drive is owned by my username--should I add myself to the www-data group to fix that?
[23:00] <reesk> why dosent ubuntu properley remove programs i just uninstalled apache and it left all its files behind which is meaning the next install is using those bad files
[23:00] <Kiten> *please don't post xchat is freaking on me
[23:00] <skegeek> I noticed with 11.10 that it didn't appear to happen if I had htop running in a terminal. I also had noticed twice with a disc in the CD/DVD drive, I could hear it was trying to interact with the disc, but the system appeared otherwise frozen with a black screen.
[23:00] <glebihan> wrecksdart, rather the opposite (add www-data to your user's group)
[23:01] <Oer> reesk, use the --purge option to remove any config.
[23:01] <wrecksdart> glebihan: mkay--one sec…and thanks for the help!
[23:01] <reesk> Oer: sytax please
[23:01] <crazymarine> hi, i have an error trying to install 10.04 32bit and i get an error with it not able to mount /dev/loop0 to //filesystem.squashfs with input/output error
[23:01] <glebihan> wrecksdart, you're welcome, hope that works
[23:01] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:02] <skegeek> Is there a command line to send a cat of syslog to a pastebin?
[23:02] <Kiten> skegeek, your monitor might not be working correctly
[23:02] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: That sounds like a problem with the CD/USB you were trying to install from. Did you check that the iso downloaded and burned correctly?
[23:02] <Kiten> skegeek, no DE ?
[23:02] <crazymarine> yes, ran the disk check tool and verified with mutliple burns
[23:02] <Jordan_U> skegeek: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:02] <skegeek> Well, I did see an error during boot regarding EDID invalid or not found or something.
[23:02] <Oer> reesk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Removal_commands
[23:02] <coleix> guys how do install this kinda file? "install-clockworkmod-linux.sh"
[23:03] <Kiten> coleix, uh first where did you get it ?
[23:03] <reesk> Oer: ive done that but nano is still managing to open the conf files
[23:03] <coleix> Kiten: http://android.modaco.com/topic/335479-29-jun-4005-clockworkmod-recovery-for-the-lg-optimus-2x/
[23:03] <skegeek> Doesn't appear to allow post expiration
[23:04] <reesk> Oer: and the folder is still there
[23:04] <Oer> reesk config files will be removed with purge, so i don't know your problem.
[23:04] <Kiten> i've not used it but ./install-clockworkmod-linux.sh # BUT FOR YOUR SAFETY make sure you trust what your installing
[23:05] <reesk> Oer:  ive purged apache2 and its still leaving the files and folders belonging to it
[23:05] <coleix> Kiten: thanks man
[23:05] <Oer> reesk, did you reboot after that? apache is a service, not just a prog
[23:05] <Kiten> some users like to prank or be complete douche's and ruin a users installation
[23:06] <Kiten> coleix, np hopefully its safe
[23:06] <reesk> Oer: not yet will ry that now
[23:06] <skegeek> The whole syslog??
[23:06] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: Does the CD boot on another machine?
[23:06] <Kiten> skegeek, just the latter half
[23:06] <crazymarine> yes on 3 other machines
[23:06] <NeonBeacon> kok
[23:06] <spacebug-> when opening 'home folder' it does not get focus when other programs are started. Why is that? Both 11.10 and 12.04 dev
[23:06] <NeonBeacon> Oops
[23:06] <NeonBeacon> Sorry
[23:07] <Kiten> or if you know when it exactly happened post the hour before, hour of and hour after of it
[23:07] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: Did you try running the boot time integrity check? That will also check that there isn't a problem with the CDROM drive in that particular machine.
[23:07] <crazymarine> yes it comes back with no errors
[23:07] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: Very odd.
[23:08] <Anamika_> guys i need help, live session
[23:08] <Anamika_> cd
[23:08] <DDeveryday> Is there any other way to make a bootable usb drive besides the prefered way on UBuntu website??? That didn't work for me.
[23:08] <Anamika_> ubuntu
[23:08] <Jordan_U> DDeveryday: In what way did it "not work"?
[23:08] <Ben64> I realize 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1, but nobody is there... I'm getting slow wifi speed on 12.04, about 150K/s throughput. On 10.04 I was getting closer to 1.5MB/s
[23:08] <reesk> Oer: just rebooted and the file is still there
[23:08] <share> ei. I stopped GDM then I logged in in TTY1 ... and now everytime I logout from tty1 GDM stops.
[23:08] <Jordan_U> Ben64: This channel doesn't support development releases. Period.
[23:09] <guest_> I have a cvs repo setup and a few projects are in it. I want to delete one of the projects from the repository. Is their a proper way of deleting these or can I just go to my repo location under /var/lib/cvs and delete the project? Or is their some config files from cvsroot that need to be modified, i,e do I need to do it with a cvs command ?
[23:09] <share> how to get gdm working without being logged in tty1
[23:09] <share> ?
[23:09] <Ben64> Jordan_U: yeah i started with that
[23:09] <skegeek> Here is the syslog: http://pastebin.com/BDBnVweY
[23:09] <DDeveryday> Jordan_U, when i tried to boot into the usb drive, it shows "No Operating System found", and on another computer it shows a flashing "_"
[23:09] <Anamika_> well, ddeveryday try netbooting
[23:10] <share> :|
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Ben64: That you weren't able to get help in #ubuntu+1 does not change the fact that this channel *does not support development versions of Ubuntu*. Period.
[23:10] <Ben64> ok then, pretend i have 11.10
[23:10] <DDeveryday> Jordan_U, I have redownloaded ubuntu from different sources and tried different version the bootable usb drive maker. No luck
[23:10] <share> I want to log out from tty1 without stopping GDM. the problem is that I started GDM in tty1
[23:10] <chachan> share: that happens even if you restart?
[23:10] <share> chachan: I dont want to restart :P
[23:10] <share> but no it doesnt
[23:10] <reesk> Oer: its being wierd apt says that its not installed yet the server still runs and apacche folder and files is still there
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Ben64: It doesn't work that way. Please stop.
[23:10] <chachan> share: how did you start it?
[23:11] <share> chachan: sudo service gdm start
[23:11] <Ben64> Jordan_U: not very helpful
[23:11] <skegeek> Out of curiosity, does syslog contain any identifiable info?
[23:11] <Oer> reesk, when uninstalling apache, did you stop the service ? sudo service apache2 stop
[23:11] <Resistance> is there any way to manually map a sector on a drive as bad?
[23:11] <histo> !wireless | Ben64
[23:11] <Kiten> skegeek, sortof but i won't use it
[23:11] <Resistance> (there's errors being spit into ctrl+alt+f1 about a sector I/O issue
[23:11] <chachan> share: it shouldn't be attached to tty
[23:11] <wrecksdart> glebihan: Doesn't appear to have worked, but I might have messed up adding www-data.  Gotta run, but I'll be working on the perms angle--thanks agian
[23:11] <cake_> hello
[23:11] <histo> Ben64: I would try a different driver and see if the problem persists
[23:11] <Kiten> skegeek, can you give me a date of when it last occurred ?
[23:12] <Ben64> histo: i'll check it out, thanks
[23:12] <cake_> hello?
[23:12] <share> chachan: i was doing it wrong. lol.
[23:12] <cake_> first time on irc is it working?
[23:12] <skegeek> Around 12:30p I believe (about 2-1/2 hours ago).
[23:13] <Jordan_U> cake_: Yes. Welcome to #ubuntu :)
[23:13] <chachan> share: stop it and check what process keep alive with: lsof | grep _your_username_
[23:13] <DDeveryday> Anamika_, thanks! I hope it works.
[23:13] <share> chachan: I wasnt hitting ctrl+alt+f8.
[23:13] <ssta> is there any easy tool to convert quoted-printable text to the original text that can be run from a script? (ie not GUI)
[23:13] <reesk> Oer: no
[23:13] <share> chachan: it's solved now:P
[23:13] <coleix> Kiten: it says i have to run chmod +x install-clockworkmod-linux.sh first, but should i change anything?
[23:13] <chachan> share: cool
[23:14] <share> chachan: restarted X normally, then tty1 and exit, then ctl+alt+f8 to go back to login window
[23:14] <Kiten> coleix, well first make sure you trust it
[23:14] <cake_> is there a channle somewhere just about irc, i dont want to bogg down #ubuntu
[23:14] <Kiten> if you decide you trust it then sudo chmod +x install-clockworkmod-linux.sh
[23:14] <coleix> Kiten: I found it on a guide and it seems safe enought
[23:15] <ssta> ah, qprint
[23:15] <Kiten> skegeek, for like 30 minutes after 12:38 your syslog reported nothing
[23:15] <Kiten> uhh do you have any non repository software installed ?
[23:16] <coleix> Kiten: ahh ok thanks, should i sudo ./intall-clockworkmod-linux.sh too?
[23:16] <skegeek> That sounds strange.
[23:16] <Kiten> probably if it needs it
[23:16] <Kiten> skegeek, yeah that is odd
[23:17] <Kiten> and it had nothing before 12:38 until 04:38 in the morn
[23:17] <skegeek> brb
[23:17] <Kiten> did you shut off or was it running ? because if it was running you got some issues
[23:17] <monstaRtruck> how come my aperance prefs are missing font tab
[23:19] <dr_willis> monstaRtruck:  i think you need to use the gnome-tweak tool to set fonts. There might be other ways
[23:19] <monstaRtruck> y do they keep changing shit aroun
[23:19] <monstaRtruck> so annoying
[23:19] <Corey> monstaRtruck: Language please.
[23:20] <dr_willis> its now gnome-3 and not gnome2 is why monstaRtruck ...
[23:20] <monstaRtruck> o
[23:20] <garthounet> bonsoir
[23:20] <garthounet> pour une erreur de compil je dois poster ou?
[23:20] <crazymarine> just burned another disk and still same error
[23:20] <dr_willis> radically differnt themeing setup and otehr major changes
[23:20] <Corey> !fr | garthounet
[23:20] <garthounet> sorry ;)
[23:20] <Corey> garthounet: C'est pas une probleme.
[23:20] <garthounet> :)
[23:20] <garthounet> good ;)
[23:21] <garthounet> une < no  un < yes
[23:21] <wiredvamp> i am trying to uninstall gnome screensaver cus i installed xscreensaver
[23:21] <garthounet> un problmeme ;)
[23:21] <the-master> monstartruck:  try compiz
[23:21] <Corey> Doh, that's right, it's masculine.
[23:21] <Corey> It's been years, sorry. :-)
[23:22] <the-master> no parle francias...
[23:22] <karl-augustt> Jordan_U: is my system  in OEM mode?
[23:23] <reesk> #freenas
[23:23] <aBound> Is there anyway I can use Compiz with Gnome-Shell?
[23:24] <vits> !list
[23:25] <ChrisC_> where is ./scripts located? in root?
[23:26] <Kiten> skegeek, paste your xorg log too
[23:26] <the-master> aBound: No... you should read this conversation between a Compiz dev and someother dev
[23:26] <Kiten> err pastie or pastebin that is
[23:26] <aBound> the-master, Gotcha. :P
[23:27] <the-master> aBound, you want a link?
[23:27] <aBound> the-master, Sure why not.
[23:29] <Melissa2012> so let me get this straight.  I have 4GB RAM and 1GB video RAM.  If I install 32bit Ubuntu, all Unbuntu can use is 3.5GB RAM and 0.5GB video ram, total=4GB?   but if I install the 64bit Ubuntu, Ubuntu can use the total of 5GB memory?
[23:30] <aBound> Dang, there are some nice themes with gnome-shell but ugh.
[23:30] <MoMo> i have a file and i am in the console -- how can i tell how big that file is?
[23:30] <Kiten> Melissa2012, uhh no 32bit ubuntu can support up to 4gb but no more, your graphics should be fine
[23:30] <bammbamm> Can anyone tell me the terminal command to restart samba?
[23:30] <ChrisC_> Where is ./script/ located? the period is root, correct?
[23:30] <GoodmaN> MoMo: du -h file
[23:31] <Kiten> Chris_0076, no the . is the current directory
[23:31] <riddlebox> can you integrate your google calendar with the unity calendar? like you can in gnome3?
[23:31] <Ryllez89> guys, when i try to open one app with wine, show this for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/788414/
[23:31] <Ryllez89> anyone can help me?
[23:31] <MoMo> GoodmaN: nice -- thank you
[23:33] <bammbamm> Ryllez89: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1548365
[23:33] <bammbamm> Look at post #9
[23:33] <Chris_0076> ok
[23:35] <Edward2> WHY DOES THE VOLUME SETTINGS RESET ITSELF!?
[23:35] <iceroot> Ryllez89: chmod +x on that file
[23:35] <monstaRtruck> thx gnome tweak worked
[23:35] <iceroot> Ryllez89: also its a good idea not to buy products which needs to be jailbreaked first to be usable
[23:35] <Ryllez89> bammbamm, thank u dude, u resolve my problem
[23:36] <iceroot> bammbamm: sudo service samba restart
[23:36] <iceroot> bammbamm: maybe its smb or smbd instead of samba
[23:37] <Kiten> skegeek, so far everything looks fine did you install your gpu's proprietary or are you using normal drivers ?
[23:37] <Kiten> *gpu's proprietary drivers
[23:37] <bammbamm> Ryllez89: np
[23:37] <Kouen> hello
[23:38] <bammbamm> iceroot: smbd worked - thanks!
[23:38] <Kouen> i need help
[23:39] <MoMo> is there a way to nohup a background process thats running?
[23:39] <iceroot> MoMo: #bash
[23:39] <iceroot> !ask | Kouen
[23:39] <MoMo> roger that thx
[23:40] <dr_willis> MoMo:  http://www.quantprinciple.com/invest/index.php/docs/tipsandtricks/unix/jobcontrol/
[23:40] <Kouen> sudo ufw allow <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to any port 22 this is some sentence i found on the web i want to know what does it mean "/24"
[23:41] <beelowzero> .
[23:41] <dr_willis> Kouen:  its a 'mask' that you can thinkof as a wildcard appled to the ip#.
[23:41] <iceroot> Kouen: its the subnet which is the same as <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:41] <Kouen> so /24 means <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:41] <iceroot> Kouen: wikipedia has a good description about "subnet/subnetmask"
[23:41] <zer0rez> ok just changed over to i3, and used to using screen(well byobu remapped to screen), now typing screen no longer remaps to it, what rc or config isn't being read properly?
[23:42] <Kouen> aaaaaaaaah tyanks a lot guys
[23:42] <dr_willis> Kouen:  http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1206189
[23:42] <Kouen> and happy new year in advance
[23:42] <iceroot> Kouen: yes, it means 24bit are reservers for the network  <IP_ADDRESS> = 24bit, <IP_ADDRESS> = 32bit, <IP_ADDRESS> = 16bit
[23:42] <Ryllez89> anyone here know how i mount the iphone on linux? here show's unable to mount
[23:42] <iceroot> Kouen: so <IP_ADDRESS> would be /16
[23:43] <dr_willis> zer0rez:  what do you mean remapped to screen?
[23:43] <iceroot> !iphone | Ryllez89
[23:43] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:43] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:43] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:43] <FloodBot1> Edward2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <Kouen> ok
[23:43] <skegeek> back
[23:43] <Kiten> skegeek, so far everything looks fine did you install your gpu's proprietary or are you using normal drivers ?
[23:43] <krambiorix> hi guys
[23:44] <Kiten> *gpu's proprietary drivers
[23:44] <krambiorix> what would be a good backup tool to backup files and mysql databases?
[23:44] <zer0rez> dr_willis, i'd type screen in terminal and i'd really get byobu w/ all it's settings and info @ the bottom
[23:44] <skegeek> The intel graphic drivers are installed, if that's what you mean...
[23:44] <Kiten> did you install them is  what i'm getting at ?
[23:44] <Kiten> s/?//
[23:45] <skegeek> They were installed automatically.
[23:45] <bo> hello i had a problem and found out that i need to free up disk space (as when i type "df" i have "0" available and 100% use)... i tried going in the /home/username directory and enter "ls" to see what is there but there was only one thing that i don't think can be responsible for filling up the entire sda5 partition
[23:45] <iceroot> krambiorix: for mysql "mysqldump"
[23:45] <iceroot> !backup | krambiorix
[23:45] <bo> any ideas?
[23:45] <skegeek> I checked to make sure.
[23:45] <iceroot> bo: du -sh *  will show what is using how much space
[23:45] <Edward2> bo: try ls -la
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> krambiorix  where did you get your nick?
[23:45] <dr_willis> zer0rez:  so you set up an alias..
[23:46] <bo> iceroot: ty
[23:46] <Kiten> skegeek, hmm you might need to try reverting to vesa, if that doesn't fix it then your monitor is having trouble
[23:46] <bo> edward2: what is that?
[23:46] <krambiorix> MonkeyDust, i invented it
[23:46] <Edward2> bo --list --all
[23:46] <iceroot> bo: a good way to free up some space is "sudo apt-get autoremoce && sudo apt-get clean"
[23:46] <Kiten> communicating with *buntu(*nix)
[23:46] <dr_willis> zer0rez:   you can set byobu where it auto launches as needed
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> krambiorix  ambiorix is a local historical hero where i come from
[23:46] <Kiten> iceroot * autoremove :P
[23:46] <skegeek> It was revering to vesa in 11.10 without resolve.
[23:47] <iceroot> bo: a good way to free up some space is "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean"
[23:47] <Jay_Levitt> So just when I think I have a handle on .bashrc vs .bash_profile and login vs interactive shells, Ubuntu has some trickiness where it always runs .bashrc as long as .bash_profile isn't set - but NOT /etc/profile... can anyone point me at an accurate, up-to-date doc on what runs when?
[23:47] <iceroot> Kiten: thx
[23:47] <krambiorix> MonkeyDust, yeah that's a flemish hero
[23:47] <Kiten> np :P
[23:47] <bo> iceroot and edward2: ty
[23:47] <zer0rez> dr_willis, no i didn't set one up that's what's weird
[23:47] <bo> i will try that
[23:47] <zer0rez> i figured it was a ubuntu thing.
[23:47] <krambiorix> MonkeyDust, people call me krambo (like rambo) and to make it flemish we added ambiorix
[23:47] <thomedy> my wireless is down
[23:47] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: #basj
[23:47] <Kiten> skegeek, from what i've gathered i'd assume its a laptop ?
[23:47] <syeroc> noob here. can anyone offer advice on getting a netgear usb wireless adapter to install on a fresh ubuntu install
[23:47] <thomedy> d i ran wlist scan
[23:47] <zer0rez> dr_willis,  all my other alias's and variables are working.
[23:48] <skegeek> Sorry, it'd probably help to tell you that I have an external KOGi LCD connected, not just internal LCd.
[23:48] <Kouen> another question... how can i know that for rendering purposes its working the graphics card for acceleration by hardware
[23:48] <Kiten> ahh yeah that would help alot :P
[23:48] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: no, Ubuntu is going beyond what vanilla bash loads
[23:48] <iceroot> !info bash
[23:48] <Kiten> skegeek, are you using one or the other soley ? or have you got some conglomerate dual screen setup ?
[23:49] <Kiten> *solely
[23:49] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: i dont think ubuntu patched the bash about that feature but ok
[23:49] <skegeek> They're mirrored
[23:49] <iceroot> bo: lets use this chat
[23:49] <bo> ok
[23:49] <Kiten> ahh do they both blackout or just one ?
[23:49] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: I'm sure they didn't patch it, they just have some, er, patchwork of scripts that ends up running .bashrc even for interactive shells
[23:49] <iceroot> bo: the command i gave you will remove packages which are no longer needed on /
[23:49] <skegeek> I believe they both do it.
[23:49] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: bashrc is always executed for interactive shells
[23:49] <Kiten> you using the same driver on both displays ?
[23:50] <bo> iceroot: ok, and if i want to delete the entire sda5?
[23:50] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: that is not ubuntu-specific
[23:50] <skegeek> I assume so.
[23:50] <iceroot> bo: formating?
[23:50] <bo> iceroot: throught command prompt
[23:50] <bo> ?
[23:50] <iceroot> bo: what about using rm instead of a reformat?
[23:51] <iceroot> bo: rm -rf /path/to/place/which/you/want/to/remove
[23:51] <Kiten> skegeek, your using buntu right ?
[23:51] <bo> iceroot: but how do i know what to rm? use the ls -la?
[23:51] <skegeek> The internal is a 15.4" WXGA (LVCD output) and external is ~17" FlatScreen which I believe is LCD.
[23:51] <skegeek> Yes, Ubuntu 10.04
[23:51] <TiMiDo> bo man rm
[23:51] <Kiten> gnome ?
[23:51] <skegeek> Yes.
[23:52] <iceroot> bo: rm -rf /foo/bar  that will delete the folder bar, rm -rf /foo/bar/ will delete eversything IN bar but not bar itself
[23:52] <skegeek> Gnome 2.30.2
[23:52] <iceroot> bo: rm -rf /foo/bar  that will delete the folder bar, rm -rf /foo/bar/* will delete eversything IN bar but not bar itself
[23:52] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: Ubuntu's own man page says "When an interactive shell that is not a login shell  is  started,  bash reads  and  executes  commands  from /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc, if these files exist."
[23:52] <Kiten> goto system -> administration-> log file viewer then paste your xorg's to pastebin/pastie/paste.ubuntu
[23:52] <Kiten> etc
[23:52] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: yes, and?
[23:52] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: that is the bash-default
[23:53] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: and not ubuntu-specific
[23:53] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: yes, and.. that is not what actually happens.
[23:53] <Kiten> i have a feeling you might be running different drivers
[23:53] <bo> iceroot: what is -rf?
[23:53] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: on Ubuntu, if .bash_profile is not present, an interactive login shell will run .bashrc as well.
[23:53] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: any errors on "source ~/.bashrc"?
[23:53] <DrPenguin> bo: -rf = recursive force
[23:53] <iceroot> bo: -r = recursiv, -f = dont ask questions
[23:53] <thomedy> would someoe help me set up my wirelss
[23:54] <bo> iceroot: asking questions is how i learn
[23:54] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: no, it runs fine. even when the docs say it doesn't run... again, the man page says .bashrc is for interactive NON-login shells, but it runs for interactive YES-login shells as well
[23:54] <DrPenguin> bo: lol no, thats what -f means, force means to just do it without confirming anything
[23:54] <iceroot> bo: that should be the normal way for everyone :)
[23:54] <Kiten> bo he meant -f literally meant that :P
[23:54] <Kiten> skegeek, did you see my post ?
[23:55] <bo> lol
[23:55] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: hm, imo running bashrc on the logonshell (tty1) is the default on every GNU/Linux
[23:55] <DrPenguin> Jay_Levitt: doesnt bash read .bashlogin if it exists for an interactive login shell and not .bashrc?
[23:55] <DrPenguin> er… .bash_login
[23:55] <DrPenguin> … whatever it is
[23:56] <Jay_Levitt> DrPenguin: I think that's what actually happens, yes.. I know that if .bash_profile is present, .bashrc is NOT run in interactive shell
[23:56] <Jay_Levitt> I suspect .bash_login would also prevent .bashrc
[23:56] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: maybe that's true for modern bash, and it's just the man page that's wrong
[23:57] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: I know at one point a few years ago I was shocked that there was NO single file that was guaranteed to get loaded in all four combinations (interactive vs non, login vs non)
[23:57] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: yes maybe, i am not using bash here and my shell is acting a little different
[23:57] <Jay_Levitt> Yes, my zsh works wonderfully as well :) But I'm setting up some servers so I have to hold my nose and use  bash
[23:58] <iceroot> zsh ftw :)
[23:58] <Jay_Levitt> Maybe I should just create one central /etc/bash_no_this_one_dammit and have everything else source that.
[23:59] <danawar2> Heyaa #ubuntu
[23:59] <fengbo> ?
[23:59] <DrPenguin> Jay_Levitt: thats what the system does when there is no local bash files in ~
[23:59] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: maye have a look at #bash if they have another idea for that case
[23:59]  * Jay_Levitt There's also a confusing comment in th default .bashrc: # If not running interactively, don't do anything
[23:59] <Jay_Levitt> [ -z "$PS1" ] && return
[23:59] <bo> iceroot: should i use "du -sh *" in any particular directory to see what i should delete?


[14:53] <macer1> Hi
[14:53] <macer1> Can someone look at my bug report ;)?
[14:53] <macer1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/853267
[14:53] <macer1> ubot5, thanks ubottu
[15:16] <AlanBell> macer1: that kind of thing will be discussed at UDS, I should think the bug will be closed as opinion
[15:17] <macer1> hmm...
[15:19] <macer1> what a pity I can't be on UDS :(
[15:19] <macer1> I really hope Ubuntu will get out of GTK.
[15:23] <macer1> Unity 2D dash looks better. It is a fact :D


[02:46] <ScottK> wgrant: Makes sense, but I thought NotAutomatic was supposed to pull depends from backports if needed?  Should I file a bug on this?
[02:47] <lifeless> ScottK: on apt? yeah
[02:48] <ScottK> OK.  I'll grab a log and talk to mvo tomorrow.
[03:09] <wgrant> ScottK: Probably not an apt bug.
[03:09] <wgrant> ScottK: Since if you look at the log, sbuild apt-get installs the deps.
[03:09] <wgrant> ScottK: A new sbuild would fix this.
[03:16] <lifeless> czajkowski: popey: ping
[03:17] <lifeless> czajkowski: popey: would like to know if bug 815623 being addressed would impact loco workflow adversely
[03:54] <ScottK> wgrant: OK.  Then do I need to file a bug for sbuild?
[04:00] <wgrant> ScottK: Could you file a bug about this particular issue at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd/+filebug?
[04:00] <ScottK> SUre.
[04:05] <ScottK> wgrant: Bug #815666
[04:06] <wgrant> Thanks.
[04:09] <superm1> hey folks, i was looking for a good way to identify if a release was an LTS release or not from launchpadlib.  currently the solution i've got is a bit hacky in that i check for a ubuntu-$VER.[0-9] milestone and if it exists assume it's an LTS
[04:09] <wgrant> superm1: Launchpad doesn't know that.
[04:09] <superm1> but it's not clear to me if there is a better way, and additionally whether that milestone will have been created say when P launches
[04:27] <micahg> wgrant: what about checking if a core package is supported for 5yr?
[04:28] <wgrant> micahg: You could, but that's not exactly launchpadlib nor something I'd rely on forever.
[04:31] <superm1> would that likely be better than my milestone solution you think though?
[06:46] <tumbleweed> superm1: distro-info?
[06:52] <czajkowski> lifeless: with regards to that bug mentioned, I'm not sure, my best idea would be to mail loco contacts and let them know the changes it would have or any impact
[06:52] <lifeless> czajkowski: I don't know their addresses; I was pointed at you and popey
[06:53] <lifeless> czajkowski: the change is that open teams (which many of the loco teams are) will no longer mail the admins when someone joins or leaves the team
[06:53] <lifeless> delegated teams (which ubuntu-loco-teams is) still will
[06:53] <czajkowski> lifeless: loco contacts mailing list
[06:53] <czajkowski> let me get the address
[06:54] <lifeless> thanks
[06:54] <czajkowski> lifeless<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:54] <czajkowski> it's a modersated list so you may need to suscribe
[06:55] <czajkowski> but all of the teams are on there so best way to notify them there is a change coming
[06:55] <czajkowski> thanks for the heads up
[07:03] <lifeless> czajkowski: I have mailed that list; probably needs moderation.
[07:11] <czajkowski> poke dholbach perhaps...
[07:12] <czajkowski> KombuchaKip: actually smurf or popey moderate it
[07:12] <czajkowski> bah
[07:12] <czajkowski> lifeless: popey moderates it
[07:13] <lifeless> ah right
[07:13] <lifeless> another hour or two and he'll be around
[07:16] <popey> lifeless / czajkowski done
[07:16] <czajkowski> popey: ty
[07:17] <lifeless> popey: thank you
[07:18] <czajkowski> lifeless: thanks for taking the time to give a heads up to loco teams, much appreciated.
[07:18] <lifeless> czajkowski: I nearly didn't :)
[07:18] <lifeless> wgrant twisted my arm
[07:19] <lifeless> (I would have blogged about the change regardless, it being quite visible)
[07:19] <czajkowski> heh the last time a chane was made and it effected teams in a bad way matrevell got an earful from me :)
[07:19] <lifeless> yeah :)
[07:20] <lifeless> that was making something previously possible impossible though; quite a different sort of change
[11:56] <danilos> bigjools, hi, I have no idea how would I triage this: bug 815666? can you please give me a hand?
[11:57] <bigjools> danilos: just set it to high
[11:58] <danilos> bigjools, cool, thanks
[11:58] <danilos> bigjools, this should not be treated as a regression, right?
[11:59] <bigjools> danilos: I don't think so
[11:59] <danilos> ack, ta
[11:59] <bigjools> some may disagree
[13:03] <czajkowski> lifeless: you following the mailing list ?
[14:08] <superm1> tumbleweed, the problem with distro-info is that it wouldn't update automagically when new OS releases come out since it's just parsing a CSV
[14:08] <superm1> i was hoping to have a solution that wouldn't require poking every 6 months
[14:33] <tumbleweed> superm1: well, it'll work as long as distro-info is kept up to date... (which one assumes bdrung will do for LTSs, via SRU)
[15:32] <micahg> superm1: bdrung committed to updating distro-info in an SRU for supported releases
[15:32] <superm1> doesn't it make more sense to have it fetching data from the web somewhere so that's not required though?
[15:33] <micahg> no, otherwise you can't use it in builds
[15:33] <superm1> what would you do to use it in a build?
[15:33] <superm1> *why
[15:35] <micahg> superm1: version specific links, dev programs that need to know what a supported release is
[15:35] <superm1> ah i see
[15:38] <Daviey> micahg / superm1: I'd love --lpapi --http (using http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release) ?
[15:38] <micahg> Daviey: I think he'd be happy taking patches :)
[15:39] <Daviey> superm1: groovy ^^ :)
[15:56] <micahg> Daviey: I don't know what you gain though
[15:57] <micahg> if the idea is to have the information in an offline form, what do you gain by trying to get it online as well
[15:57]  * micahg guesses this is getting OT
[18:43] <jdstrand> hi! after upgrading to oneiric I can no longer 'bzr update' my trees. I get the following traceback: http://paste.ubuntu.com/651899/. I filed bug #816071
[18:44] <jdstrand> a couple of others on oneiric were unable to reproduce
[18:45] <jdstrand> but this is completely blocking my work
[18:46] <jdstrand> can someone take a look at the paste/bug and help me?
[19:07] <jdstrand> I am good, jelmer helped me (bzr, not LP)
[19:36] <lifeless> czajkowski: if its cc'd to me, yes.
[19:37] <czajkowski> lifeless: not sure they are cc'ing, but I got them to reply on the bug also
[19:38] <czajkowski> lifeless: what timezone are you in ?
[19:39] <lifeless> UTC+12
[19:42] <lifeless> czajkowski: I see no replies, so I guess everyone replied to the list only :(
[19:43] <czajkowski> lifeless: I suspected that I did poke people to reply on the bug
[19:43] <lifeless> thanks
[19:43] <czajkowski> lifeless: you should be able to read the archive
[19:43] <lifeless> yah, just caught up
[19:45] <lifeless> I think its going to be hard to get significant stats :)
[19:46] <czajkowski> its a low voulme ml if you do suscribe
[19:47] <lifeless> someone subscribed loco council to the bug, so I think that that will do :)
[19:47] <czajkowski> I suscribed us to the bug
[19:47] <czajkowski> me being loco council
[19:47] <czajkowski> well one of 6
[19:47] <lifeless> ah, cool
[19:48] <czajkowski> I couldnt find the buttong to suscribe me :/
[19:48] <lifeless> edit bug mail -> 'me', 'ok' or something like that
[19:49] <lifeless> please fila a bug though, confusion is bad ;)
[19:49] <czajkowski> lifeless: file the bug against lp ?
[19:49] <lifeless> yeah
[19:51] <czajkowski> lifeless: got a link handy to do that ...
[19:51] <czajkowski> please
[19:51] <lifeless> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/815623/+subscriptions
[19:51] <czajkowski> no to log a bug on lp
[19:51] <lifeless> lol :)
[19:52] <lifeless> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[19:52] <czajkowski> so not functioning this evening
[19:52] <czajkowski> cheers
[19:55] <czajkowski> lifeless: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/816105
[20:05] <Quintasan> Hi, is there an ETA for source 3.0 (quilt) support in Recipes? I would like to get daily builds of Telepathy-KDE but it is not possible since rules use 3.0 (quilt), not (native)
[20:16] <czajkowski> hmm
[20:16] <czajkowski> my bug was changed to a question
[20:16] <czajkowski> I beg to differ
[20:16] <czajkowski> :/
[20:20] <micahg> czajkowski: they probably saw the title and thought it was a support request :)
[20:28] <czajkowski> rather annoying
[20:28] <czajkowski> it's not a Q&A
[20:28] <czajkowski> it's a bug
[20:28] <czajkowski> as in right now the issue it is's unclear on how to suscribe yourself to a bug but can suscribe someone else
[20:29] <micahg> czajkowski: I was just referring to the way you phrased it, it's definitely a bug issue :)
[20:29] <idnar> so, there's an Ubuntu source package linked to my Launchpad project, but the link is incorrect; the source package is for a completely different piece of software. How do I go about correcting this?
[20:30] <czajkowski> micahg: so how do I un make it a Q&A and make it back to a bug
[20:31] <micahg> czajkowski: should be a link on the bug to convert back
[20:31] <czajkowski> cheers
[20:31] <czajkowski> done
[20:32]  * micahg makes title look less Q&A
[20:32] <czajkowski> knock yerself out
[20:32] <czajkowski> just leave it as a bug :)
[20:36] <czajkowski> micahg: want to make it confirmed :D
[20:36] <czajkowski> and not invalid
[20:37] <micahg> I set it back to new, not sure I want to confirm (it won't help it along in any event, it needs an LP member to triage it)
[20:38] <czajkowski> nods
[20:38] <czajkowski> ok
[22:09] <wgrant> idnar: Did you get the link removed?
[22:11] <idnar> wgrant: not yet; https://launchpad.net/kali/+packages is the project in question
[22:15] <wgrant> idnar: Removed.
[22:15] <idnar> wgrant: thanks :)
[22:48] <lifeless> micahg: are you interested in being an LP bug triager?
[22:49] <micahg> lifeless: interested? sure, able?  I already have another 2 hats that I'm working on :)
[22:50] <micahg> I don't really have as much time as I used to have to keep up on what's happening in LP