[03:25] <waldo> linux_kid, thanks... but i need to have mplayer working
[03:25] <cyberfall> in disk it shows both hard drives as hde and hdf
[03:25] <_Omega> AnthonyG: Absolutely not.
[03:25] <_Omega> AnthonyG: you can try xubuntu, I reccomend it for a stripped down experience.
[03:25] <linux_kid> waldo: whats wrong with your mplayer?
[03:25] <waldo> when i try to run it
[03:25] <waldo> nothing happens
[03:26] <cyberfall> waldo i when with vlc cause i couldnt get xvid to work in mplayer
[03:26] <linux_kid> that stinks
[03:26] <guest_> How do I hack Firefox so that mms:// links open up a vlc ?
[03:26] <waldo> linux_kid,  from menu or from terminal... nothing happens
[03:26] <AnthonyG> _Omega: I'd like to stick to Ubuntu , What would you say to 256MB RAM , ATI Radeon 200 , 1.7 GHz?
[03:26] <_Omega> AnthonyG: You're fine.
[03:26] <ivx> will ubuntu lock you out if you type your password in wrong to many times?
[03:26] <_Omega> AnthonyG: Configure about 100MB of swap space.
[03:26] <waldo> guest    try editing  about:config
[03:27] <linux_kid> waldo: call me captian obvious, but try a reinstall through synaptic
[03:27] <guest_> By default, good question ivx
[03:27] <waldo> guest, type that into firefox as the url
[03:27] <AnthonyG> _Omega: Great , Thank you for the help :D
[03:27] <waldo> linux_kid, i did
[03:27] <guest_> Will VLC handle mms:// links waldo?
[03:27] <cafuego_> Okay, Captain Obvious.
[03:27] <_Omega> AnthonyG:  I used to run gentoo.
[03:27] <linux_kid> thank cafuego_
[03:27] <waldo> no idea  but thats where id look first
[03:27] <_Omega> AnthonyG: Ubuntu has one nice feature:  Doesn't break your configs!!!!!  Gentoo hasn't got that handled yet.  :(
[03:27] <waldo> after i remove a package... how to i purge the package?
[03:27] <guest_> k ty
[03:27] <ivx> guest_ how can i turn this off, i think i got it reset now, but i don't want to do it again
[03:28] <AnthonyG> _Omega: If only I could , But the 56K support kills me :(
[03:28] <_Omega> AnthonyG: I can totally understand your problem there.
[03:28] <_Omega> AnthonyG: A running ubuntu system can be left to do updates and it hardly chokes your system up.
[03:28] <AnthonyG> _Omega: Unlike the XP Live update or whatever it's called correct?
[03:28] <_Omega> AnthonyG: So if worst comes to worst, you can download updates, and once they're pulled over, they'll be applied nice & quickly.  Instead of Gentoo that breaks it down a lil' too much.
[03:28] <_Omega> AnthonyG: Ubuntu's updater works similar to that.
[03:29] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Can you pastebin the cfdisk output, for /dev/sda and /dev/hdb
[03:29] <_Omega> AnthonyG:  But the updates aren't nearly as big and clumsy.
[03:29] <AnthonyG> _Omega: But without the slowdown
[03:29] <Jager> H3g3m0n: alright
[03:29] <H3g3m0n> Jager: The entire terminal window
[03:29] <cyberfall> anyone know how to install an raid into ubuntu that already up and running
[03:29] <_Omega> AnthonyG:  Remember, Ubuntu is made for all situations.  And one of them is yours.
[03:29] <Jager> H3g3m0n: would screenshots be better?
[03:29] <waldo> after i remove a package... how to i totally clean the package off the computer?
[03:29] <_Omega> cyberfall:  What kind of raid?
[03:30] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Eithers fine
[03:30] <linux_kid> waldo: depends on the package
[03:30] <AnthonyG> _Omega: I feel so important :)
[03:30] <guest_> How do I connect to this server using Irssi?
[03:30] <AnthonyG> _Omega: Distros made for poor fools like myself :D
[03:30] <cafuego_> guest_: type '/server irc.freenode.net' in irssi.
[03:30] <_Omega> AnthonyG: For anyone.
[03:30] <burner> guest_: /server irc.freenode.net    then  /join #ubuntu
[03:30] <bronze>  irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[03:30] <Vaske_Car> waldo, I think you should install and remove packages with "aptitude" instead of "apt-get" in order to be able to perfomr complete uninstall.
[03:30] <cyberfall> stripping
[03:31] <cyberfall> i bet i spelt that wrong sorry
[03:31] <_Omega> cyberfall:  Hardware?  Software?  Existing data?
[03:31] <waldo> Vaske_Car, thanks
[03:31] <cyberfall> i have it set in hardware
[03:31] <AnthonyG> _Omega: Does it come with required hardware drivers?
[03:31] <cyberfall> no existing data
[03:31] <cyberfall> no format or partion eather
[03:31] <_Omega> AnthonyG:  I know dapper drake comes with the open drivers for ATI & NVidia.
[03:31] <_Omega> AnthonyG: Newer closed source, you'd have to download.
[03:32] <cafuego_> cyberfall: Define "hardware".
[03:32] <ivx> if i am going to uninstall old kernels should i do complete removal or just removal
[03:32] <AnthonyG> _Omega: And Edgy Eft?
[03:32] <_Omega> cyberfall:  Have you configured teh stripe?
[03:32] <cafuego_> ivx: complete removal.
[03:32] <_Omega> AnthonyG:  I haven't run a copy of it yet.  But I know there were some changes recently.  It's political.
[03:32] <cyberfall> i have an iwill kk-266 +R so it has an on board not the high point but linux say it a CM
[03:32] <Kud0s|sleepytime> !runlevel
[03:32] <guest_> Cafuega, I believe it's working, it's trying to connect
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <hikenboot> anyone have a solution for hotplug udev not renumbering ethernet interfaces eth0 is not present doesnt show with ifconfig -a but is like an empty hole...there is no physical nic anymore...any ideas?
[03:32] <Kud0s|sleepytime> !init
[03:32] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:33] <cafuego_> cyberfall: if it's an on-mainboard raid, don't use its raid bios; use the in-kernel raid drivers.
[03:33] <DARKGuy> Greetings! I have a small question... what's the best and safest way to burn a CD? I downloaded a Xubuntu ISO and I only have two blank CD-Rs, since I had some bad past experiences burning CDs before, I'd like to get some support first from the people who know ;) (I have GnomeBaker if you're wondering)
[03:33] <AnthonyG> _Omega: Politicians always pin down the open source community unfortunately :(
[03:33] <_Omega> cyberfall:  Configuring the striping of the drives should be part of your hardware's setup guides.
[03:33] <_Omega> AnthonyG:  Well, it's more licencing.
[03:33] <Staz> How can I grep a string/variable rather than a file?
[03:33] <Kud0s|sleepytime> How do i see my current runlevel?
[03:33] <naitmer> anynone any idea what a Link To Old Desktop is? with a .migrated fiel in it
[03:33] <co_15th> three
[03:33] <Vaske_Car> waldo, read this http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[03:33] <_Omega> cyberfall:  Once that is done, you should be able to address the physical drives as one logical drive.
[03:33] <cyberfall> well the bios only give u option of what u are doing
[03:33] <sid> What port and I supposed to forward for the built in bittorrent client for edgy/gnome. So my speeds increase(up and down)
[03:33] <cafuego_> Kud0s|sleepytime: echo 2
[03:33] <Jager> H3g3m0n: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=40acmdl  <-- HDA  http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2i6yzrp  <-- HDB
[03:34] <Kud0s|sleepytime> ta
[03:34] <_Omega> cyberfall:  yeah, raids aren't always the best, especially ones built into motherboards or "added on" by MOBO manufacturers.
[03:34] <waldo> thanks Vaske_Car
[03:34] <dabaR> Kud0s|sleepytime: run runlevel
[03:34] <linux_kid> DARKGuy: burn the cd in that horrible yet reliable os called windoze
[03:34] <cyberfall> well it built in
[03:34] <Kud0s|sleepytime> ?!
[03:34] <AnthonyG> _Omega: Thank you for the assistance, I think the manual can take over from here :)
[03:34] <_Omega> cyberfall:  Do you have THAT set up?
[03:34] <_Omega> AnthonyG:  Your welcome!  Enjoy.  Stick with it!
[03:34] <manmadha> how to do php programs in linux?
[03:34] <cafuego_> Kud0s|sleepytime: seriosuly though `runlevel'.
[03:34] <bariel> what is the different between en_AU.UTF-8, en_BW.UTF-8 etc?
[03:34] <cyberfall> i have it set for both drive to be striped
[03:35] <Kud0s|sleepytime> thanks
[03:35] <DARKGuy> linux_kid, Aw :( so burning in Linux is still not-so-safe and prone to burning a CD the wrong way ):?
[03:35] <jar`> hi im having some problems, somehow my login screen changed and I have no icons for shutdown/restart
[03:35] <_Omega> cyberfall:  Okay, well then you should be able to see the drives as "sdxx"
[03:35] <_Omega> cyberfall:  Linux will recognize the drives as ONE.
[03:35] <cyberfall> in what df
[03:35] <cyberfall> or mount
[03:35] <cafuego_> cyberfall: If you cvna tell the bios to not be raid, but just normal IDE or SATA, you should be able to sue them in Linux to configure via 'mdadm'.
[03:35] <sid> Anyone know what port the built-in bittorrent client for edgy/ubuntu needs forwarded?
[03:35] <linux_kid> DARKGuy: if you want somthing to be perfect (and have someone by the name of gates to complian to if it isn't) use windows
[03:35] <VigoFusion> (II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)   and that means I am making progress?
[03:35] <cafuego_> cyberfall: In event of failure or new hardware, you'll still be able to use them. With on-mobo raid that's doubtful.
[03:36] <baris_> hello
[03:36] <H3g3m0n> Jager: for sda not hda
[03:36] <_Omega> cyberfall:  type cat /proc/diskstats
[03:36] <_Omega> Cyberfall: might give you some info
[03:36] <linux_kid> baris_, hi
[03:36] <VanessaE> Got a question.. of the showstopper variety
[03:36] <cyberfall> well what i have is pare of 2 x 20s
[03:36] <Jager> H3g3m0n: my bad, ill do it again
[03:36] <ivx> cafuego_ thanks
[03:36] <dabaR> VanessaE: good announcement
[03:36] <cafuego_> cyberfall: And keep in mind striping (raid0) means all data is lost when one of the disks fails.
[03:36] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Although now it does look like its all on hdb
[03:36] <cyberfall> and i want to stripe them into being a 40
[03:37] <linux_kid> VanessaE, whats your question?
[03:37] <DARKGuy> heh, alright, thanks linux_kid :P
[03:37] <cyberfall> ya that fine if i lose what i put on them
[03:37] <cafuego_> cyberfall: So that it is a bigger disk?
[03:37] <VanessaE> using the edgy build of X along with a kernel I built, and the 'official' nvidia drivers...   I'm having a problem with X crashing before it even brings up the nvidia logo
[03:37] <VanessaE> ..but...
[03:37] <cyberfall> cafuego,  yep
[03:37] <Jager> H3g3m0n: stil; want sda?
[03:37] <cafuego_> cyberfall: Not just a speed issue? Then maybe use LVM and not raid.
[03:37] <_Omega> cafeuego_: He just wants to use his hardware raid capability.
[03:37] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Yeh problaly best
[03:37] <VanessaE> it started happening after I added the drivers to the kernel that are needed to use a DC10+ card.
[03:37] <cyberfall> _Omega,  that also
[03:37] <_Omega> cafuego_:  LVM might be a bit overkill & complicated for this.
[03:38] <VanessaE> if I load those modules *after* X starts, everything works fine, but if I load them *before*, X locks up before it even gives the logo.
[03:38] <guest_> why the underscore after the username i wonder
[03:38] <_Omega> cafuego_:  Considering most MOBOs come with some ghetto-raid....He's better off getting that working because it means less linux-legwork.
[03:38] <CoRnJuLiOx> how do you kill x so i can install the nvidia drivers
[03:38] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Assuming its not another cannot open drive error
[03:38] <cafuego_> _Omega: No harder to set up than dmraid I should think.
[03:38] <coldfire> just stopping by to ask if anyone else has problems with the flash plugin for mozilla?
[03:38] <Jager> Heg3m0n: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda ?
[03:38] <VanessaE> any clues to what would do this?
[03:38] <VigoFusion> VanessE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929 <<<did you look at that?
[03:38] <cyberfall> i though if just set the bois for raid and linux would of seen it as one drive and let me format and off i be
[03:38] <H3g3m0n> Jager: sda not hda
[03:38] <Jager> sudo cfdisk /dev/sda **(
[03:38] <H3g3m0n> yeh
[03:38] <cyberfall> butdont seem like it will take it
[03:38] <linux_kid> coldfire: you have to download it from adobe's website
[03:38] <coldfire> i have it installed, and firefox recognizes the plugin, but i can't view any flash content
[03:38] <Arrick> I need to apologize to this channel, it has been brought to my attention that I just made a comment (my bad mistake) that I would have taken offence to in other channels. My apologies to this channel. I hope no hard feelings are kept over my last statement.
[03:38] <_Omega> cafeugo_:  Hardware raid is very easy to set up.
[03:38] <cafuego_> _Omega: Well, the ghettoraid problem is that if his mobo fails, he prolly won't be able to get at the data on a new mobo.
[03:38] <VanessaE> lemme check, vigo .. I've been all over the web with no solution..
[03:38] <VanessaE> (so far that is)
[03:38] <RebornDV> hello
[03:38] <Jager> H3g3m0n: Same result as hda
[03:38] <Jager> H3g3m0n: FATAL ERROR
[03:38] <linux_kid> coldfire: what happens when you try to view a youtube video?
[03:38] <_Omega> cafuego_:  Oh yeah, LVM shines there ;)
[03:39] <cyberfall> last time i played in lvm i kinda messed up but i was playin with an active partion
[03:39] <H3g3m0n> Jager: hmm, did you remove the external drive?
[03:39] <Jager> H3g3m0n: yes
[03:39] <cafuego_> _Omega: It's most likely software raid, not hardware. Even though it's on the mobo. (brings pain)
[03:39] <H3g3m0n> Jager: ok
[03:39] <cyberfall> but i dont see sdxx
[03:39] <cyberfall> i see hde and hdf
[03:39] <naitmer> !ubotu .migrated
[03:39] <cafuego_> _Omega: You still need to configure Linux to see and use the "raid" array.
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about migrated - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <cyberfall> no hdex
[03:39] <RebornDV> i have what i hope to be an easy to solve problem... i have a file server where i keep my music and videos... i would like to be able to play them on this laptop with ubuntu without copying the files over... is this possible? and if so what program/s will do it?
[03:39] <cyberfall> or hdfx
[03:39] <bariel> how can i change the locala for my system? atm it is en_AU-UTF-8, i want to change it to en_US-UTF-8
[03:39] <H3g3m0n> Jager: It looks like grub was detecting the external as (hd0)
[03:39] <coldfire> linux_kid: whoa .. looks like it is working after all
[03:39] <_Omega> cafuego_:  Yeah....Could be.  I like hardware ones that just show up as ONE DRIVE. :)
[03:39] <linux_kid> coldfire: awsome!
[03:40] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Try 'sudo grub' and then 'geometry (hd0)' again
[03:40] <_Omega> cafuego_:  Call it a "winraid" like a "winmodem" ;)
[03:40] <cafuego_> cyberfall: hde and hdf? That's IDE drives #5 and #5.
[03:40] <guest_> I love this channel
[03:40] <VanessaE> vigo: ok...reading, but I don't quite understand what this has to do with the problem I'm seeing (other than being unsupported by the ubuntu team anyway)
[03:40] <cafuego_> _Omega: indeed
[03:40] <coldfire> linux_kid: i guess the sites i frequent have poor checks to see if the plugin is installed ... until you pointed out that 'youtube' utilizes flash, i've seen nothing but the "Get Flash" links
[03:40] <cyberfall> ya ide not sata
[03:40] <cafuego_> cyberfall: #5 and #6 even - those will be your 20GB drives.
[03:40] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and notices that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port?
[03:40] <cyberfall> or scsi
[03:40] <cyberfall> yes
[03:40] <VanessaE> I might point out, btw., if I switch to the regular "nv" driver in my X config, there's no crash/conflict.
[03:40] <VanessaE> (and even the DC10+ works..)
[03:40] <_Omega> cafuego_: If he has 2 20GB drives, it's configured wrong.  It should show up as one 40GB drive.
[03:40] <bariel> anyone?
[03:40] <cyberfall> #1 and #2 is the main
[03:41] <guest_> Vanessa, try removing the 'splash' instance on /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:41] <hikenboot> ask this a different way whats the ubuntu equivalent to #  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
[03:41] <Jager> H3g3m0n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34035/
[03:41] <linux_kid> coldfire: if possible, try a different browser or a newer version of flash, good luck
[03:41] <_Omega> cafuego_: unless that's just recognizing the HDD's hardware, and not the logical structure.
[03:41] <guest_> Gets rid of the splash screen
[03:41] <cafuego_> coldfire: They may be using flash8 or flash9 and you probably have flash 7.
[03:41] <VanessaE> guest: I'm not using Grub.  I use lilo.
[03:41] <cyberfall> _Omega,  ya but in ubuntu it see them 2 drive
[03:41] <guest_> Sometimes the splash screen doesn't play too well with the nivida drivers
[03:41] <_Omega> cyberfall:  That may mean your raid is configured incorrectly.
[03:41] <RebornDV> i have what i hope to be an easy to solve problem... i have a file server where i keep my music and videos... i would like to be able to play them on this laptop with ubuntu without copying the files over... is this possible? and if so what program/s will do it?
[03:41] <cyberfall> that not a suprise then
[03:41] <coldfire> cafuego_: ahh ... no workaround for something like that i don't suppose
[03:41] <guest_> Ok, I'm not sure how to remove the splash screen instance on LILO, but it should be about the ame
[03:41] <guest_> same
[03:41] <_Omega> cyberfall:  cafuego_ and myself are presenting two possible scenarios.  You should check with your MOBO manuals & hardware really.
[03:41] <cafuego_> _Omega: Linux pretty much supports _none_ of the on-mobo raid chips in raid mode.
[03:41] <coldfire> linux_kid: will do, thanks
[03:41] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and notices that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port
[03:42] <VanessaE> there isn't one on mine...text mode all the way until X starts.
[03:42] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Ok, i think if you reboot without the external drive plugged in windows should load if grub still has it set to hd(0,0)
[03:42] <guest_> Reborn you can stream them
[03:42] <cyberfall> well it dont show for linux
[03:42] <cyberfall> just winblows
[03:42] <cafuego_> _Omega: Mainly because in-kernel raid is both faster and far more reliable :-)
[03:42] <guest_> Go to winamp.com and instal lthe streaming server on your computer
[03:42] <_Omega> cafuego_:  That depends on how they present themselves in the resulting bios.
[03:42] <guest_> then run the client on your goobuntu obx
[03:42] <Kevin`> most of the on-mobo raid chips are really software raid
[03:42] <Kevin`> ie crap :)
[03:42] <guest_> I've done this on windows but not on linux, but yes you can stream them
[03:42] <bobbie__4> all hail the arrival of Bobbie
[03:42] <RebornDV> guest_: and that will allow me to choose what to play on the client?
[03:43] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and notices that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port???
[03:43] <cafuego_> coldfire: Well, you could install flash9.
[03:43] <dea_cwek> #surabaya
[03:43] <coldfire> cafuego_: i didn't see a download for anything newer than 7 on macro's website .. i'll check again
[03:43] <guest_> Hmm...reborn you'll have ot set up seprate sreaming playlists I believe
[03:43] <guest_> so I don't think you can get that kind of granularity
[03:43] <cafuego_> coldfire: There is a beta, check seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:43] <_Omega> cyberfall:  This may require some research on your part.  I wouldn't go into a raid without a 100% game plan sorted out, even if you don't plan on holding critical information on it.  It can be a PITA.
[03:43] <guest_> But who knows maybe you can
[03:43] <linux_kid> coldfire: ya, i think v8 only works on windows, sorry
[03:44] <RebornDV> guest_: drats... i was hoping i could just double click the files through the network like i can with my windows box
[03:44] <Jager> H3g3m0n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34036/
[03:44] <Shinoda> coldfire http://labs.adobe.com/
[03:44] <guest_> Reborn, I'm sure you can, I just dont know how to do it
[03:44] <VigoFusion> I got alotta text, use pastebin and then ask for help?
[03:44] <Jager> Should I only worry about line 148?
[03:44] <NoStop> RebornDV: why not just setup a samba server on box that has the media?
[03:44] <linux_kid> RebornDV: does the server come up in Places->Network Servers->Windows Network ?
[03:45] <RebornDV> linux_kid: yeah it does
[03:45] <RebornDV> wait
[03:45] <coldfire> Shinoda: ahh, excellent .. thanks for pointing that out
[03:45] <NoStop> RebornDV: and then share the directories that contain media?
[03:45] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and notices that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port
[03:45] <Shinoda> np
[03:45] <nickv111> Hey. I have libdvdread3 installed, and yet, I can't use mplayer to play a DVD. It just freezes on "DVD successfully opened." Xine says it can't open it (libdvdread support is, for some reason missing)
[03:45] <RebornDV> linux_kid: just shws up under network servers
[03:45] <linux_kid> RebornDV: can you see the files?
[03:45] <dea_cwek> #u buntu
[03:46] <RebornDV> i can copy the files over and play them
[03:46] <H3g3m0n> Jager: yeh looks good, try a reboot without the extra drive. Its just when you had that plugged in it became (hd0), so windows was trying to boot off that
[03:46] <RebornDV> linux_kid: i can see them fine
[03:46] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Also you might have added linux swap space to it accidently at some point :/
[03:46] <linux_kid> RebornDV: i recommend vcl media player
[03:46] <Jager> h3g3m0n: to the external? O_o
[03:46] <RebornDV> vlc?
[03:46] <linux_kid> ya, sorry
[03:47] <RebornDV> o ok
[03:47] <RebornDV> let me check
[03:47] <Jager> H3g3m0n: Okay, Im going to restart and try to boot into windows.
[03:47] <RebornDV> do have it installed
[03:47] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Yeh, thats what the grub geometry was saying when you did it the first time with it plugged in
[03:47] <VanessaE> VigoFusion, I'm still reading this thread you pointed me to, but I'm lost..
[03:47] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and notices that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port????????????????/////
[03:48] <redDEADresolve> if i have an ati x1600 video card can i run aiglx
[03:48] <RebornDV> linux_kid: when i do that vlc starts but nothing happens... same as xmms banshee beep and totem
[03:48] <VanessaE> Oh I forgot to say, when X crashes, the screen stays black.  I have to Alt-SysRq-K to get back to a text console, and I could see in the proces list, X is d-stated.
[03:49] <guest_> If you put one more questions mark I might answer at the end you might get an answer.
[03:49] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and noticed that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port
[03:49] <linux_kid> RebornDV: does it startup at all?
[03:49] <guest_> wceoscar, can you ping www.google.com ?
[03:49] <DevC> how do I find out what version of Ubuntu I have now on my desktop, so i can upgrade some more if need b
[03:49] <RebornDV> linux_kid: yeah the programs start... but none of the media will play unless i copy them locally
[03:49] <wceoscar> of course i can acces gooooooooooogle
[03:49] <guest_> devc:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:50] <linux_kid> RebornDV: well.... let me try really quick on my machine
[03:50] <Jager> H3g3m0n: Nope :(
[03:50] <Jager> H3g3m0n:
[03:51] <H3g3m0n> hmm :/
[03:51] <Jager> H3g3m0n: Still sits there saying "starting up...."
[03:51] <Gradius9> hi
[03:51] <Jager> it showed go right past the Starting Up... part quicky right
[03:51] <Jager> no matter how slow windows is
[03:51] <H3g3m0n> yeh
[03:51] <linux_kid> DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW THE DIRECTORY TO NETWORK SERVERS FROM "/"
[03:52] <wceoscar> gest, of course i can ping google!!!!
[03:52] <Jager> >_<
[03:52] <bobbie__4> Linux Rocks!
[03:52] <Kevin`> linux_kid sounds confused :)
[03:52] <Jager> I really really hope it didnt get messed up
[03:52] <diskus> linux_kid: I don't think there is by default
[03:52] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Might be worth trying lilo i guess
[03:52] <Kevin`> linux_kid the command 'mount' would show you the path, if any are in the filesystem
[03:52] <Jager> although I can go on the ntfs partition and take my data off...
[03:52] <Jager> okay
[03:52] <stefano> ubuntu...wow!!!
[03:53] <KanRiNiN> Hey, is there no way to uninstall rhythmbox without the gnome and ubuntu-desktop using synaptic?
[03:53] <diskus> mount and df
[03:53] <KanRiNiN> I'm replacing it with MPD and banshee
[03:53] <Jager> !lilo
[03:53] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[03:53] <stefano> using vlc
[03:53] <Jager> Bah no link to lilo from ubotu..
[03:53] <diskus> lilo was so easy to use :P
[03:53] <linux_kid> RebornDV: I got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:53] <Gradius9> highneko, is it possible now to convert volumes from ntfs to ext3?
[03:54] <Kevin`> lilo doesn't have a command line or filesystem knowledge, grub++
[03:54] <RebornDV> linux_kid: woo hoo
[03:54] <RebornDV> linux_kid: i hope i can get it too
[03:54] <KanRiNiN> Thanks in advance for whoever helps
[03:54] <DevC> says 5.04 but the upgrade said id downloaded the newer version.....so how do I install them so that it is the newer version? thought they downloaded and installed themselves
[03:54] <Gradius9> without deleting stuff of course
[03:54] <Kevin`> Gradius9 there would be an unavoidable loss of information doing that, as the metadata available is different
[03:55] <stefano> how to read DVD's?
[03:55] <linux_kid> RebornDV: open the windows network and then the name of your network.  Drag the server computer's icon to the desktop.  Open VCL, and then navigate to the desktop, click on the icon to the server, and find your files!!!!!!
[03:55] <Gradius9> Kevin`, yeah, but all the files are movies and such
[03:55] <Kevin`> stefano data or encrypted video
[03:55] <Jager> Would it be possible to just uninstall linux (i dont want to :( ) so that i could boot straight into windows like nothing happened?
[03:55] <RebornDV> linux_kid: sweet thanks
[03:55] <nickv111> I think I'm having some serious libdvdread errors. Every time I run ogle or xine, trying to play a DVD, I get errors regarding libdvdread
[03:55] <screechingcat> KanRiNiN: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage. you can uninstall it and nothing will happen to your system
[03:55] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Not without a windows cd unfortunatly
[03:55] <nickv111> But I don't know why. I got it straight from the Edgy repository
[03:56] <linux_kid> RebornDV: you are very welcome!
[03:56] <stefano> encripted video
[03:56] <KanRiNiN> screechingcat: what's a metapackage?
[03:56] <Jager> H3g3m0n: I could download one... but would I need to format anything?
[03:56] <Kevin`> stefano you need libdvdcss, as well as a program like mplayer or xine or vlc to display it
[03:56] <ma12> Is it a bad idea to change a folder or file to a+w if I need access to it?
[03:56] <H3g3m0n> Jager: Nah you would need to goto the recovery console, and run fixmbr and maby fixboot
[03:57] <H3g3m0n> Jager: That assuming you didn't break it
[03:57] <stefano> Tes I try but the system don't work!
[03:57] <RebornDV> linux_kid: uhm... should it try to copy files overwhen i drag it to the desktop?
[03:57] <Kevin`> you shouldn't need to run fixboot
[03:57] <Jager> H3g3m0n: Hmm.. lemme go see if I can get my hands on a windows disk
[03:57] <Kevin`> and any dos/windows mbr will work
[03:57] <screechingcat> KanRiNiN: its a package that is not a peice of software by itself but depends on a lot of others. so if you install ubuntu-desktop, the package itself contains nothing. but it depends on all the packages of a normal ubuntu system.
[03:57] <VanessaE> sigh... I really hate corporations (i.e. nvidia and their precious closed source)
[03:57] <Kevin`> you could do fdisk /mbr from a win98 disk if you have one
[03:57] <linux_kid> RebornDV: all it does is creates a link.  If u dont want it on your desktop, put it in  your home folder
[03:57] <stefano> Kevin i use ppc system
[03:57] <Blenderer> hey all
[03:58] <Kevin`> stefano windows does not have a ppc port
[03:58] <nickv111> xine returns, "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable." but I have libdvdread3 installed. I don't understand it
[03:58] <Kevin`> oh
[03:58] <Kevin`> wrong person
[03:58] <Kevin`> stefano that does not matter
[03:58] <Kevin`> at all :)
[03:58] <RebornDV> linux_kid: i must not have something installed right then... cos it tries to copy all of my files over
[03:58] <Gradius9> Kevin`, Which tools were you intentionally thinking about?
[03:58] <Kevin`> you need libdvdcss and the corresponding support in libdvdread
[03:58] <H3g3m0n> nickv111: You probally need libcss or libdecss aswell
[03:59] <H3g3m0n> !dvd
[03:59] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:59] <VanessaE> is there a way to completely disable I2C support in the nvidia driver?  I think that's where the problem lies.
[03:59] <ma12> Does anyone use Skype successfully on their 6.10??
[03:59] <screechingcat> ma12: me
[03:59] <Kevin`> Gradius9 since you are always doing a backup before such a risky conversion, I would format the disk and copy the backup data to it
[03:59] <cafuego_> nickv111: You need the "naughty" bit too, dvdcss
[03:59] <linux_kid> RebornDV: thats odd, all it did for me was make a link, or else 7 gigabites would be flooding my network
[03:59] <nickv111> H3g3m0n: Thank you very much
[03:59] <nickv111> Yeah, I thought libdvdread had libcss
[03:59] <stefano> I try to sonn thank
[03:59] <cafuego_> nickv111: There is a little script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/
[04:00] <cafuego_> nickv111: Nono, it isn't included, only a script to downlaod & install it,.
[04:00] <H3g3m0n> VanessaE: There was a custom patch for then when the 1st betas came out, you would need to compile the official nvidia drivers from source
[04:00] <VanessaE> figures.
[04:00] <RebornDV> linux_kid: i tried to do that right click drag trick... wouldn't do it
[04:00] <cafuego_> nickv111: 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh'
[04:00] <nickv111> cafuego_: Thank you
[04:00] <Kevin`> diff libcss libdvdcss?
[04:00] <Gradius9> Kevin`, yeah what I want, but I havent any free disks, all my backup disks are used for the real computer, this is just my file server with movies and such
[04:00] <ma12> screechingcat did you have to make any modifications?
[04:00] <VanessaE> can't back down to the previous version of the driver, it won't build against current kernels....and if I back down to a kernel it will build against, I lose SATA support..
[04:00] <ivx> hey what do i type to list my processor info?
[04:00] <nickv111> cafuego_: I used Debian awhile, and there was a similar script.
[04:00] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and notices that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port
[04:01] <cafuego_> Kevin`: css = cascading stylesheets, dvdcss = dvd decryption.
[04:01] <ivx> isn't it /etc/init.d/cpuinfo
[04:01] <ma12> or did it work right out of the box for you screechingcat
[04:01] <stdundon> Hi, anybody have experience with both Gentoo and Ubuntu?
[04:01] <Kevin`> so libcss has no relation to dvds
[04:01] <cafuego_> nickv111: Yeah, same package :-)
[04:01] <linux_kid> RebornDV: just drag it normal holding left click and pull it to the desktop
[04:01] <H3g3m0n> stdundon: yeh
[04:01] <cafuego_> Kevin`: correct
[04:01] <Kevin`> k
[04:01] <cafuego_> ivx: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:01] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: How does upgrading in Ubuntu work out?
[04:02] <RebornDV> linux_kid: yeah i did that first and when that didn't work i tried the right click... then tried the regular again a couple more times
[04:02] <screechingcat> ma12: out of the box
[04:02] <ivx> cafuego_ that's it thanks!
[04:02] <Jager> Arg.. ive got to redoanlowd a windows disk...
[04:02] <linux_kid> RebornDV: how fresh is your install and are you dapper or edgy?
[04:02] <RebornDV> linux_kid: i installed dapper and did an update to edgy
[04:02] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: I know that they release every 6 months, but can you just do an 'emerge -auvD world' kind of thing?
[04:02] <Kevin`> Jager tsk tsk, using pirated windows
[04:02] <stefano> 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh and then
[04:02] <H3g3m0n> stdundon: Alot easier/faster than gentoo, although im not so sure about upgrading from one release version to another
[04:02] <Jager> kevin
[04:02] <Jager> Its just to repair my legal copy
[04:02] <CoRnJuLiOx> im suddenly not getting any sound from realplayer when i try to play this .rmvb file, but i had sound in the same file just the other night, other music files seem to play properly, though..
[04:03] <Kevin`> what's broken in it
[04:03] <nickv111> Hey, guys, this is interesting. I installed libcss using the script, but I still can't play DVDs
[04:03] <linux_kid> RebornDV: ok, im on dapper and just reinstalled about 45minutes ago
[04:03] <diskus> stefano: what I understand about ubuntu, you can't
[04:03] <nickv111> Same error
[04:03] <H3g3m0n> stdundon: You update your repositories (basicly emerge --sync) then use synaptic to update the newer packages
[04:03] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: but still as flexible?  If I can just upgrade all of my packages, I guess I don't care about what it's named
[04:03] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  I did a build-dep for gaim to compile w/ avahi and bonjour support.  can I clean up all the dev packages somehow?  e.g. perhaps there's a log file?
[04:03] <diskus> stefano: depends on realease
[04:03] <Jager> i cant boot into windows anymore.. so i need to run fixmbr and fixboot
[04:03] <RebornDV> linux_kid: thanks for the help... i might need to try a fresh edgy install
[04:03] <cafuego_> stefano: ... and then ... it's done.
[04:03] <Jager> then... *sniff* delete linux (and maybe reinstall it if i can do it right)
[04:03] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: great.  So, as a desktop you would recommend it over Gentoo?
[04:04] <Kevin`> Jager you can run the equivalent of fixmbr from any dos or windows boot disk, or even from linux
[04:04] <mga_mark> Hello. I have a question about Ubunto, and how it doesn't completely fill my screen. It's set for 1024, but it has a black bar around it, a lot of unused screen. I'm running it off a live disk. Anyone have any suggestions?
[04:04] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: (I'm already downloading the iso
[04:04] <linux_kid> RebornDV: dont risk all of your files unless you are really savy on hdd space
[04:04] <H3g3m0n> stdundon: Yeh, gentoos updating is rairly unstable and because its source it takes ages to compile
[04:04] <Firefishe> I'm on a g4 powerbook 15" aluminum 1ghz laptop, running ubuntu 6.06 dapper.  I just downloaded kubuntu-desktop, then most of what apt-get didn't get (like the kde core files, etc.), and I am experiencing a vexing problem starting kde.  Seems the file permissions in my /home/user directory can't be written to by kde.
[04:04] <Kevin`> I forget which little linux program does it though, as i've never needed to use it
[04:04] <linux_kid> RebornDV: sorry i couldn't be of service
[04:04] <H3g3m0n> stdundon: Gentoo does have alot of newer packages and its much more customizable
[04:04] <Jager-> I got killed by services? X(
[04:04] <Kevin`> Jager you can run the equivalent of fixmbr from any dos or windows boot disk, or even from linux
[04:04] <Kevin`> I forget which little linux program does it though, as i've never needed to use it
[04:04] <nickv111> stdundon: I used ot use Gentoo. I got tired of the complexity, and how it was a chore to use. Now, I use Kubuntu, and I'm very happy. (K)ubuntu is really great, simple, and user-friendly.
[04:05] <varsendaggr> hi, any help with fluxbox would be greatly appreciated :D
[04:05] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: very true.  My libraries got screwed up toady, b/c I had to use a 32bit chroot to install flash with firefox.  Now I'm ready for something new
[04:05] <stefano> bye!!
[04:05] <RebornDV> linux_kid: nah don't be... you helped as much as you could and at least proved it can be done
[04:05] <Jager-> I have my windows boot disk... problem is something is screwed up with it..
[04:05] <Jager-> ill go make another
[04:05] <Kevin`> Jager- why not just have grub/lilo boot windows
[04:05] <linux_kid> RebornDV: ya
[04:05] <mofturos> how can i make my movies to work .. apt-get install xine-ui ... it's not working ?
[04:05] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: sounds great.  Well, I'm off to watch Blade Runner while I d/l, but I thank you for your experience
[04:05] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: take care
[04:05] <H3g3m0n> stdundon: I recomend avoiding amd64 based Ubuntu, although i did manage to get flash running with nppluginwrapper
[04:05] <Jager-> Kevin` Its dieing when it tried to boot windows
[04:06] <H3g3m0n> stdundon: nps
[04:06] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: lol
[04:06] <Kevin`> that did you try to do, in grub
[04:06] <Jager-> Ive spent all day with h3g3m0n (very helpful) trying to fix it
[04:06] <linux_kid> mofturos: try "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[04:06] <Kevin`> root (hd0,whatevernumber)
[04:06] <Kevin`> chainloader +1
[04:06] <Kevin`> boot
[04:06] <Kevin`> should be all that's needed
[04:06] <mofturos> ok
[04:06] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: well, heck, I think it's recommended to avoid using a Linux desktop on amd64, no1 seems to do it well yet, but I'll give it a try
[04:06] <Kevin`> rootnoverify instead of root
[04:07] <Kevin`> but that doesn't matter when you enter it
[04:07] <cafuego_> stdundon: Well, only if you need or want video/java/flash
[04:07] <Jager-> Kevin` so... how can I fix grub to boot windows?
[04:07] <varsendaggr> hi, could someone please answer a few questions about fluxbox
[04:07] <Kevin`> Jager- show me your partition layout
[04:07] <slicky> ubotu radeon | slicky
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <sysdoc> HAs anyone figured out a workaround for the black window bug with nvidia/Beryl/Edgy?
[04:07] <Kevin`> varsendaggr ask a question and you might get an answer
[04:08] <varsendaggr> Kevin: lol thanks
[04:08] <stdundon> H3g3m0n: lol. exactly
[04:08] <Jager-> brb
[04:08] <mga_mark> Could anyone answer a screen question for me?
[04:08] <Gradius9> Kevin`, what method should I use if I want to be unsafe?
[04:08] <varsendaggr> So im new to ubuntu and i have been told about fluxbox by a friend... what exactly is it?
[04:08] <Kevin`> Gradius9 i'm not aware of one, you shouldn't do such a stupid thing :)
[04:08] <linux_kid> mga_mark, what's your question...
[04:09] <Kevin`> varsendaggr it's a window manager
[04:09] <mga_mark> I'm running Ubuntu from a dsik, and it doesn't fill my 1024 screen.
[04:09] <varsendaggr> Kevin: so do you boot up in it or what?
[04:09] <barata> hallo all, what app BEHAVES like iTunes? I need an app that can generate txt files (including ide3 tags) for my mp3 collection
[04:09] <Kevin`> varsendaggr it controls how windows work in X (the linux gui)
[04:09] <slicky> ubotu berly | slicky
[04:09] <linux_kid> mga_mark: so there are black lines around the screen?
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <Kevin`> so you can switch between them, move them around, start programs, and stuff
[04:10] <Kevin`> fluxbox is generally considered a "light" window manager
[04:10] <mga_mark> Yes, though it says it's set for 1024.
[04:10] <Kevin`> I can give you a screenshot if you want :)
[04:10] <ToHellWithGA> i am getting gzip errors on the main edgy sources.  how can i fix that?
[04:10] <ali_> I am running warty, I just downloaded edgy. How do I install edgy from download?
[04:10] <dibblego> I am using ubuntu server 6.06; I suspect the machine has been compromised - now the network card fails to come up and executing a sudo command returns to the prompt immediately and does not do anything
[04:10] <linux_kid> what is ur windows resolution?
[04:10] <woro2006> hi, what's a good program to crawl through all my files so I can search them later?
[04:10] <highneko> How can I find where my swap is mounted on?
[04:10] <varsendaggr> Kevin: o, i see ... i got it from "synaptic package manager" and as i say im new to linux do you by chance know how to open it?
[04:10] <Kevin`> highneko swapon -s
[04:11] <plesnivyjano> why i cant change ownership of my own file ????
[04:11] <Kevin`> varsendaggr technically, the command fluxbox
[04:11] <highneko> Kevin`: Interesting. Thank you.
[04:11] <ivx> hey i have kernel 2.4.27-2-686-s installed, but when i boot that isn't listed. whats going on with that
[04:11] <mga_mark> hiighest, 32 bit
[04:11] <varsendaggr> Kevin: um... lol?
[04:11] <Firefishe> anyone here have any trouble with file permissions when using aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop from the standard ubuntu/gnome setup?
[04:11] <Kevin`> varsendaggr though, it will probably show up as an option in gpm
[04:11] <linux_kid> highneko: download gparted from synaptic and you will se it as a partition
[04:11] <Kevin`> when you log in
[04:11] <[erisco] > anyone know how to install GMP for PHP under Ubuntu?
[04:11] <Kevin`> gdm*
[04:11] <Kevin`> whatever
[04:11] <varsendaggr> Kevin: what is gpm?
[04:11] <wceoscar> HEy, i just got frostwire and notices that it doesnt conect to the network... what should be wrong??? port
[04:11] <Kevin`> gpm is a mouse driver for the console, gdm is what shows the login screen
[04:11] <Kevin`> I meant gdm
[04:11] <linux_kid> mga_mark: no, your resolution, like 1280x800...
[04:12] <slicky> hi.. i just reinstalled my ubuntu.. iv got a radeon 9600 xt ati card.. what drivers do you recomend?
[04:12] <mga_mark> It's 1024 by 7**
[04:13] <nickv111> mplayer is now spitting out, "libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key. . ." even though I have libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed. This is really driving me insane.
[04:13] <[erisco] > I am talking about GMP though...
[04:13] <linux_kid> mga_mark: what video card do you have?
[04:13] <varsendaggr> Kevin: so is fluxbox a program that you open and modify or what?
[04:13] <H3g3m0n> nickv111: Tried a diffrent dvd?
[04:13] <mga_mark> I'm not sure. It's a Dell Pentium 4. It looks fine on Windows XP
[04:14] <ChimeraHitman> Hey guys?
[04:14] <Kevin`> varsendaggr it provides the look and behavior of desktop windows, like gnome or kde
[04:14] <VanessaE> there we go, problem solved.
[04:14] <__Gino__> I'm gonna ask this again, since there might be new people that know something ;)  (I already tried #ubuntu-xgl)
[04:14] <__Gino__>  Does anyone have problems resizing windows in Beryl (on Edgy) I've used it before, but I installe it on a new Edgy install and none of the windows can be resized....
[04:14] <linux_kid> mga_mark: any clue if it is an ATI or GEforce?
[04:14] <Kevin`> although gnome and kde have more they do, besides that
[04:14] <varsendaggr> Kevin:  sweet, so i start up my computer again and open it...? but how?
[04:14] <slicky> ubotu xgo | slicky
[04:14] <ChimeraHitman> I am having troubles getting Beryl to run on my gnome desktop. Ubuntu Edgy, nvidia-glx. No GLX server.
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xgo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <slicky> ubotu xgi | slicky
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <VanessaE> I was using the 9625 "beta" driver.  Updated to 9629 (which is marked as 'stable') and the problem went away.
[04:14] <nickv111> H3g3m0n: Just a second.
[04:14] <sysdoc> __Gino__, Beryl-settings-manager
[04:15] <mga_mark> Sorry. I'm not on that computer now, either. Is this an unsual probelm?
[04:15] <Kevin`> varsendaggr there should be a button or something when you log in, to choose the desktop environment to start
[04:15] <__Gino__> I tried that, it is enabled.
[04:15] <nickv111> H3g3m0n: See, mplayer returns a LOT of libdvdcss errors.
[04:15] <linux_kid> mga_mark: ok, lets assume it is an intel chip
[04:15] <mga_mark> It works fine, otherwise
[04:15] <mga_mark> Yes, definitely
[04:15] <Kevin`> I assume ubuntu would add it to that list..
[04:15] <ChimeraHitman> When i run the beryl-manager y just takes all the borders and gui and renders gnome useles.
[04:15] <VanessaE> (which is strange, I thought I'd already installed that update a week ago..no wonder the splash screen kept saying 'beta'...)
[04:15] <linux_kid> mga_mark: go to synaptic and download the package 915resolution after enabling universe reposotiries
[04:16] <nickv111> mplayer basically returns a lot of errors like, "libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1567"
[04:16] <nickv111> They're all pretty much the same, with the exception of the line number
[04:16] <blanky> you guys, I feel stupid, has anyone gotten the ati drivers to work on edgy?
[04:16] <varsendaggr> Kevin: well my comp. is partitioned btween ubuntu and windows xp so i chose ubuntu and it boots to the login screen... where would the button be in all that?
[04:16] <ChimeraHitman> Think anyone could help?
[04:16] <Kevin`> varsendaggr at the login screen somewhere
[04:16] <blanky> I read the tutorial and I feel like they wrote it just to trick me, I went into a trap and I knew it from the beginning
[04:16] <mga_mark> ok. Will it intefere with Windows?
[04:16] <nickv111> blanky: ati or fglrx?
[04:16] <Kevin`> mga_mark no
[04:16] <blanky> the drivers used to always work for me under breezy, but that's two versions ago
[04:16] <ChimeraHitman> I am using the nvidia-glx 8776 drivers.
[04:16] <linux_kid> mga_mark: no, not at all
[04:17] <blanky> nickv111: I believe fglrx, no? ati isn't complete or something?
[04:17] <blanky> nickv111: but yes fglrx
[04:17] <NoStop> varsendaggr: you won't see it unless you have more than one window manager installed
[04:17] <blanky> nickv111: here's my log
[04:17] <nickv111> blanky: I did.
[04:17] <mga_mark> Ok, I'll go now. Let you know if I find it. Thanks so much.
[04:17] <linux_kid> mga_mark: and yes and no, this is somewhat of a usual problem although i have never heard of black lines...
[04:17] <blanky> nickv111: you did what?
[04:17] <varsendaggr> NoStop:  what does that mean?
[04:17] <bobbie__4> chmod +777
[04:17] <ChimeraHitman> Can anyone hear me?
[04:17] <nickv111> blanky: I got fglrx work
[04:17] <nickv111> ChimeraHitman: No.
[04:17] <Teratogen`> hi
[04:18] <blanky> nickv111: oh, what tutorial/wiki did you follow plase?
[04:18] <ChimeraHitman> Hi
[04:18] <NoStop> varsendaggr: http://xwinman.org/
[04:18] <blanky> *please, and what card do you have, I have an ati 9800 pro
[04:18] <Kevin`> varsendaggr you won't see it unless you have fluxbox installed along with something else, like gnome, otherwise it will start the only one installed
[04:18] <wceoscar> how can i install the GDM themes in ubuntu?
[04:18] <bobbie__4> ChimeraHitman, we can't hear you, speak louder please
[04:18] <Firefishe> Is there a difference between the kde on the kubuntu cd vs the Universe Repository kde?
[04:19] <ChimeraHitman> When i run Beryl it renders my gnome desktop useless. What could i do fix the problem?
[04:19] <Teratogen`> not sure
[04:19] <wceoscar> how can i install the GDM themes in ubuntu?
[04:19] <H3g3m0n> !gdm
[04:19] <varsendaggr> Kevin: but isnt gnome already installed with ubuntu
[04:19] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[04:19] <nickv111> blanky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:19] <blanky> can anyone help me install ati drivers, please?
[04:19] <nickv111> blanky: I'm helping you.
[04:19] <blanky> nickv111: yeah, I followed that
[04:19] <blanky> lol okay thanks nickv111
[04:19] <lufis> Kind of an off-topic question, but: I have aspired to program since I was a child but I don't know where to begin. What's a good newbie's programming language that can be learned easily?
[04:19] <nickv111> blanky: So, what's the problem?
[04:19] <blanky> nickv111: here's my log http://paste.jorgepena.be/43
[04:20] <blanky> nickv111: well, when I type fglrxinfo, it outputs this
[04:20] <barata> is lsongs in the ubuntu repository?
[04:20] <H3g3m0n> lufis: Python is fairly easy and widly used
[04:20] <bobbie__4> lufis, try either BASIC or LOGO
[04:20] <ChimeraHitman> If i run beryl-manager, it complains about XGL missing and then acknowledges Nvidia is present.
[04:20] <diskus> lufis: python or ruby
[04:20] <blanky> nickv111: here's what it outputs when I type fglrxinfo http://paste.jorgepena.be/44
[04:20] <ChimeraHitman> Then i can't do anything.
[04:20] <lufis> H3g3m0n: Thanks, I was leaning towards Python.
[04:20] <wceoscar> how can i install the GDM themes in ubuntu?
[04:21] <diskus> lufis: but those are scripting languages
[04:21] <VigoFusion> lufis: Go Ruby. easy to learn and very cutting edge
[04:21] <eternale1> in someones opinion... i'm leaving the world of linux desktop to make my linux box just a headless server. would i be better off continuing with ubuntu (using there server edition) or move onto other distro's or possible other flavors.. bsd* etc. or does it really not matter all together?
[04:21] <lufis> VigoFusion: Cool, thank you
[04:21] <blanky> I think anyone who doesn't understand objects and classes the first time should get a taste of ruby
[04:21] <sinco> is there anyway I can have ubuntu 6.10 server install lilo instead of grub by default?
[04:21] <nickv111> blanky: Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:21] <blanky> nickv111: sure thing, hold up
[04:21] <Kevin`> eternale1 ubuntu should work, but is designed for desktop use (the non-server one, of course)
[04:22] <blanky> nickv111: http://paste.jorgepena.be/45
[04:22] <diskus> I didn't like ubuntu-server at all
[04:22] <DevC> sorry I had to leaver right when i posted my question...I downloaded the upgrade for Ubuntu 5.04 but now how do I install them since the smart upgrade only downloaded them? never upgraded ubuntu until now so I'm clueless what to do
[04:22] <Falstius> how can I recover some files I just deleted from an ext3 filesystem?  (it isn't critical, but I'd like to get them back)
[04:23] <blanky> nickv111: don't mean to leave you here, but I'm going to restart very quick okay? thanks for the help so far!
[04:23] <H3g3m0n> Falstius: Theres no easy way under ext3
[04:23] <rocka> i'm currently using live unbuntu 5.04, and i need to fix my windows parttion, and ubuntu didn't recgnized the ntfs partition
[04:23] <sinco> is there anyway I can have ubuntu 6.10 server install lilo instead of grub by default ?
[04:23] <wceoscar> how can i install the GDM themes in ubuntu?
[04:23] <rocka> do someone have any idea
[04:23] <noldon> anyone knows what could be interupting the sound dev when i cant get sound in flash movies
[04:24] <wceoscar> how can i install the GDM themes in ubuntu?
[04:24] <noldon> whats gdm?
[04:24] <diskus> wceoscar: if noone answers right away, then noone knows, wait for ~15-30min
[04:24] <snype> gnome desktop manager
[04:24] <snype> like- where u type in ur username/password
[04:24] <snype> !gdm
[04:24] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[04:24] <noldon> ah ok
[04:24] <snype> mhm
[04:25] <H3g3m0n> Falstius: You might get lucky if you can find the inode you might beable to recover it
[04:25] <blanky> hey nickv111 thanks, i fixed it, it was the composite section i missed hehe
[04:25] <zmm> my open office is not working. When I start it it gives error, I've pasted the error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34039/
[04:26] <ma12> Anyone have any idea how to get the integrated mic on the SONY SZ laptops to work?
[04:26] <ChimeraHitman> Hello everyone, i have problems with Beryl. When i run beryl-manager, all the bars dissapear, only mouse is left with an unresponsive desktop.
[04:26] <VigoFusion> System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager>select Gnome, install,,I think
[04:26] <ChimeraHitman> I am on Ubuntu Edgy, with nvidia-glx driver 8776.
[04:26] <noldon> ma12 is it on?
[04:27] <ma12> yes
[04:27] <ChimeraHitman> I didn't go over the xgl server installation.
[04:27] <ma12> noldon yes
[04:27] <noldon> well then i dont know
[04:27] <diskus> zmm: 64-bit processor?
[04:27] <DevC> ok I used smart upgrade and have the upgrades but now what do i do to install the new upgrades because right now i'm still showing ubuntu 5.04 instead of a newer version like htat of what it downloaded
[04:27] <Falstius> H3g3m0n: yeah, I figured as much.  Its not worth that kind of time.  Thanks.
[04:27] <ChimeraHitman> I followed the beryl-project.net tutorial on setting it up. I have done what they mentioned and i still can't get it to work.
[04:28] <zmm> no, celleron 32 bit
[04:28] <VigoFusion> !upgrade
[04:28] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:28] <diskus> zmm: don't know, but that sounds like somekind of java error :P
[04:28] <nickv111> blanky: Oh, cool
[04:29] <blanky> :D
[04:29] <Nilisco> Hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my pc (amd 3200 64, i386 version) with a x800xl ati video card.  When the installer starts, the colors are all wrong and then the installer freezes when the bar finishes loading, graphical corruption occurs.
[04:29] <noldon> what do i have to kill to get sound in flash movies
[04:29] <nickv111> Hey, all, why is there a limited amount of region sets on a particular DVD drive? It's concerning, because I have to experiment, and I don't want to kill my DVD drive or anything
[04:29] <blanky> noldon: LOL
[04:29] <edgarin> et
[04:29] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: Tried the safe graphical mode, or specifying the resolution with the f4 key?
[04:29] <blanky> et quoi?
[04:30] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> hjf78i5r78o6g4iuy6redtgkfjysdjtflyjtdyjhyh
[04:30] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> cok
[04:30] <noldon> it works when i restart the computer but then when i play an mp3 or anything like that and then again play a flash movie on internet its not working
[04:30] <blanky> ls
[04:30] <H3g3m0n> !en
[04:30] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:30] <blanky> er, wrong window hehe
[04:30] <Nilisco> H3g3m0n, correct, same things basically, but when I change the resolution I usually get correct colors but a x crash after the loading bar.
[04:30] <noldon> blanky i think i meen enemy territory
[04:30] <wceoscar> how can i install the GDM strart scrren in ubuntu?
[04:30] <blanky> noldon: yeah I know :P
[04:30] <noldon> ok
[04:31] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: Might be worth trying ctrl+alt+f1 and seeing if it gives you a text console
[04:31] <noldon> wceoscar install? i think its default but u just have to activate it
[04:31] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> cfhf dk tct  dtv y yrt6s5 ytcfx r jhhhg d t er
[04:31] <Nilisco> H3g3m0n, okay, trying.
[04:31] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: There also ALT+SYSREQ(printscr) and typing RSEIUB slowly and seeing if it recovers
[04:32] <sinco> is there anyway I can have ubuntu 6.10 server install lilo instead of grub by default?
[04:32] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> cok
[04:32] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> amadea
[04:33] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> cewek abg
[04:33] <wceoscar> noldon, I downloaded a few GDM start screens and wanted to activate them.. how is this done?
[04:33] <cari_tmn_ceSBY>  dx
[04:33] <jbroome> wceoscar: go read this before you ask again: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=10203108
[04:33] <blanky> anyone know of a good make tutorial
[04:33] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> jonh cena
[04:34] <CoRnJuLiOx> i'm not getting any sound in realplayer, when i had sound just the night before, could anyone lend a hand? the volume is up, and other programs play music just fine, just not realplayer.
[04:34] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> undertaker
[04:34] <noldon> ah wceoscar system-->administration-->Login window and add
[04:34] <fildo> !divx
[04:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <CoRnJuLiOx> already read it
[04:35] <fildo> that wasnt for u . was for me
[04:35] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> umaga
[04:35] <laura> hi
[04:35] <fildo> !fonts
[04:35] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[04:35] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[04:35] <dibblego> I added my sudoer user to the users group and now I have lost the root user - how do I get it back?
[04:35] <Nilisco> H3g3m0n, no luck with either of those.  Is there any way to boot to the old text mode installer?
[04:36] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: Possibly the expert mode
[04:36] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> king boker
[04:37] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: Otherwise you could try the server version, and install ubuntu-desktop
[04:37] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> cm punk
[04:37] <H3g3m0n> !expert
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about expert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <Nilisco> Shucks, kinda strange, I've never had this problem with ubuntu before
[04:38] <Nilisco> Not sure what I'm doing wrong here
[04:38] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> litsfghjh
[04:38] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> kontol
[04:38] <noldon> wceoscar but the default place for gdm themes looks to be in /usr/share/gdm/themes/"name of the theme"
[04:38] <SpacePuppy> !dvd
[04:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:38] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> jembut
[04:38] <dibblego> can I add a user to the admin group without a privileged user with a boot CD?
[04:39] <CoRnJuLiOx> so can anyone help on my realplayer issue? i've checked alsamixer and nothing seems to be muted..
[04:39] <H3g3m0n> dibblego: Yes, edit the /etc/groups file
[04:39] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> sufit
[04:39] <dibblego> H3g3m0n, excellent thanks
[04:39] <Nilisco> H3g3m0n, actually, when I changed my resolution to 640x480, it still crashed but I can get into the console now.  X is reporting an error
[04:39] <noldon> CoRnJuLiOx whats the issue
[04:40] <dibblego> H3g3m0n, do you mean /etc/group?
[04:40] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> wesdcbjyhg jn
[04:40] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
[04:40] <H3g3m0n> dibblego: yeh
[04:40] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> c
[04:40] <Music_Shuffle> Stop.
[04:40] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> ccccccccccccccooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:40] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> kkkkkkkkoooooooonnnntttttttoooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[04:40] <jr> I am in need of some help with ubuntu
[04:41] <jbroome> Music_Shuffle: acknowledging the troll encourages the troll
[04:41] <cari_tmn_ceSBY> jjjjjjjjjjjeeeeeeeedfdg
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> !ops
[04:41] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[04:41] <Music_Shuffle> But acknowledging the op does better! ;o
[04:42] <jbroome> point
[04:42] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: What error?
[04:42] <Nilisco> H3g3m0n, x window system couldn't be started, it now disabled itself
[04:43] <Nilisco> when I do a startx now, I get x window system is disabled, then it exits
[04:43] <noldon> Nilisco u r already in x arent u?
[04:43] <wceoscar> do i need bery or something like that to install gdm startscreens?
[04:44] <wceoscar> beryl
[04:44] <Nilisco> noldon, nope, the console, x won't start
[04:44] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and try pluging around with the modes
[04:44] <noldon> ok
[04:44] <BHSPitLappy> I have a folder full of deb packages... how can I make these into a repo for synaptic to use?
[04:44] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: Then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[04:45] <jr> new to ubuntu here, having wireless issues, been through a bunch of tutorials but still no go, anyone feel like helping?
[04:45] <tanubis> Trying to set up a new Sony Ericsson w300i cellphone/media player on my computer, the bloody thing comes with a windows only DRM peice of software that's locking out my phone from using anything but windows to get my music into the player.  Anyone now of some steps I can use to circumvent/workaround?
[04:45] <noldon> wceoscar use the menu system--->administration--->login window
[04:45] <H3g3m0n> BHSPitLappy: /var/cache/apt/archive is where the downloaded debs go, but if there not in the actuall repos you will probally need to install them manually
[04:45] <momal> Seveas: Thanks for the help before with the mysql its all good and working now :)
[04:45] <__Gino__> hmm... When I plug speakers into my laptop, sound still comes out of the laptop, as well as the speakers... Anyway to fix this?
[04:46] <BHSPitLappy> H3g3m0n: this computer doesn't have internet access at all, that's why I have the folder full of debs.
[04:46] <H3g3m0n> __Gino__: You probably need to mute something in the volume controls
[04:46] <BHSPitLappy> H3g3m0n: I'd like to add them into synaptic as a local repo, rather than double clicking and chasing deps for hours
[04:47] <H3g3m0n> BHSPitLappy: You could try 'dpkg -i *.deb'
[04:47] <sinco> i just installed the base package - how do i get a screen where i am able to select packages avaible to install from the CD?
[04:47] <H3g3m0n> That would install them all
[04:47] <kalikiana> sinco: synaptic
[04:47] <zmm> I started openoffice with sudo this time and it gave different error in a dialogue box which is pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34044/ . The previous error without sudo is pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34039/
[04:48] <kalikiana> sinco: but you need to select the cd as a source
[04:48] <zmm> why openoffice is not working
[04:48] <sinco> can you do that in teh console?
[04:48] <fr500> hello
[04:48] <__Gino__> H3g3m0n, I tried muting everything (separately) but they all muted both sets of speakers...
[04:48] <ivx> hey whenever i try to boot from the smp kernel it says kernel panic:VFS" Unalbe to mount root fs on 00:00. anyone know whats going on
[04:48] <fr500> can anyone give me an stock sources.list?
[04:48] <BHSPitLappy> H3g3m0n: I'll see if it works
[04:48] <kalikiana> sinco: oh, no - try 'aptitude'
[04:48] <sinco> oh ok thanks
[04:48] <noldon> zmm : killall ooffice
[04:48] <CoRnJuLiOx> noldon: did you get my /msgs?
[04:49] <jr> its slow surfing the internet with firefox/ubuntu, if I surf with windows xo its faster, anyone got an idea of why this is?
[04:49] <zmm> noldon: should i run "killall ooffice" in terminal.
[04:49] <Vorbote> fr500, /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[04:49] <DanaG> __Gino__: you may need a newer version of ALSA than the repos provide.
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> I need help making a digital voice recorder work with Ubuntu (Olympus VN-3100PC).  It registers in /var/log/syslog and 'lsusb', but doesn't seem to create a /dev/sd* or mount itself.
[04:50] <H3g3m0n> jr: Try disabling ipv6 in about:config
[04:50] <fr500> thanks Vorbote
[04:50] <DanaG> However, I don't know how to manually install the newer version (without also doing a new kernel)
[04:50] <noldon> CoRnJuLiOx did u get mine?
[04:50] <noldon> zmm yes were else?
[04:50] <H3g3m0n> !ipv6
[04:50] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:50] <__Gino__> Well... the thing is, I've been using Ubuntu for months and never had this problem (on the same laptop) but I reinstalled Edgy and am having the problem now... I never installed a new version of Alsa.
[04:51] <H3g3m0n> __Gino__: Might be worth making sure the plug is all the way in sometimes they can get stuck partway :)
[04:51] <zmm> noldon: it said "ooffice: no process killed"
[04:51] <CoRnJuLiOx> noldon: just the one asking me what the issue is
[04:51] <noldon> zmm then i dont know
[04:51] <noldon> CoRnJuLiOx strange
[04:51] <ali_> How do I get the edgy 6.10 download to install?
[04:52] <__Gino__> H3g3m0n, haha, yeah, I have tried that. Still doesn't work though... :)
[04:52] <CoRnJuLiOx> i got that message, though
[04:52] <DanaG> __Gino__: is it snd-hda-intel?  That module seems to give me all sorts of problems.
[04:52] <CoRnJuLiOx> anyways, its not playing the sound in the .rmvb files, and i know they have sound because it worked just last night
[04:53] <noldon> CoRnJuLiOx it seems like the people i message private here dont recive my message
[04:53] <CoRnJuLiOx> nothings muted, and xmms even plays mp3 files with full sound
[04:53] <Nilisco> H3g3m0n, no luck messing with the values, I appreciate the help though!
[04:53] <__Gino__> DanaG, I don't think so... nothing about intel when I do lspci command...
[04:53] <DanaG> do lsmod | grep snd
[04:54] <ali_> ---------------How do I get the Edgy 6.10 iso download to install-----------
[04:54] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: You could try using the official binary drivers for your card, should be possible to install them on the livecd
[04:54] <__Gino__> Yup... It says snd_hda_intel
[04:54] <H3g3m0n> !isos
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <H3g3m0n> !iso
[04:54] <DanaG> aah.
[04:54] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:55] <H3g3m0n> ali_: Just goto ubuntu.com and then download
[04:55] <DanaG> I remember there were some fixes in newer ALSA versions to manually mute speakers when an external jack was used.
[04:55] <CoRnJuLiOx> noldon: can you even see my msgs? i can see yours.
[04:56] <__Gino__> I'll try installing a new ALSA version. Thanks!
[04:56] <ali_> I went to the Ubuntu site and downloaded Edgy 6.10. I downloaded it and nothing
[04:56] <noldon> CoRnJuLiOx yes i see them but u dont seems to see mine
[04:56] <noldon> CoRnJuLiOx i sended u alot of message they seems to get lost
[04:56] <DanaG> Look at the changelogs
[04:56] <DanaG> for 1.0.12 and 1.0.13
[04:56] <noldon> CoRnJuLiOx my internet connection is bad
[04:58] <noldon> wceoscar have u manage to install them?
[04:59] <whta> hello again
[04:59] <whta> is there any sort of fix for this little issue of flash videos coming horribly out of sync with their sound?
[05:00] <NeXCiS> It could be the video itself
[05:00] <whta> nope, it's EVERY VIDEO
[05:01] <whta> and i've had this problem before and after a reformat and on different hardware
[05:01] <guest_> I'm using putty and I'd like make it o that I can I can assign the 'up' arrow key to Alt+y or something
[05:01] <guest_> like that
[05:01] <guest_> Is this possible?
[05:01] <guest_> I guess this is not the right channel to ask, I need to find a putty channel
[05:01] <jr> whoever helped me with the slow internet issue thanks alot, I got it straight
[05:01] <harry> how do i mount /dev/hdc3 to media?
[05:02] <LadyNikon> heh
[05:02] <jr> who wants to help with a screwed up wireless connection?
[05:02] <kalikiana> harry: look at fstab, learn and add your own ;)
[05:02] <noldon> harry mount /dev/hdc3 /media/(foldername)
[05:02] <guest_> You can edit the fstab file with vi
[05:02] <guest_> it's pretty easy
[05:02] <guest_> Just don't screw up :-D
[05:02] <kalikiana> or with any text editor in fact
[05:03] <noldon> yes remove all in fstab and put in new
[05:03] <noldon> just kidding
[05:03] <guest_> when I first found out you can edit the fstab file I was ecstatic
[05:03] <kalikiana> you can test anything with 'mount -a' :)
[05:03] <guest_> I thought it was just for viewing  <-- shmuck
[05:03] <wceoscar> noldon, Of course... i installed them succesfully
[05:03] <wceoscar> thanks
[05:03] <noldon> wceoscar np
[05:04] <kalikiana> guest_: fstab is for all fixed mounts
[05:04] <guest_> wceoscar did you get your torrent client up and running
[05:04] <noldon> wceoscar were did u found them?
[05:04] <wceoscar> is there a site thats thedicated to ubuntu torrents??
[05:04] <vader> quick question, where would I find a link for upgrading a pc from 6.06 to 6.10 that has the Nvidia video?
[05:04] <guest_> what do you mean kalikiania?
[05:05] <jr> I can set the wlan0 up with the correct essid and 64 bit hex key but it still says no signal
[05:05] <sohmc> how do I get x to display a widescreen resolution?  I'm running xfce as my wm
[05:05] <DanaG> argh, simple-backup is being stupid
[05:05] <DanaG> It won't let me select all.
[05:06] <noldon> wceoscar http://www.linuxtracker.org/ there u have a torrent tracker for linux
[05:06] <guest_> kalikiana: Say I need to add a secondary SATA drive on my computer...I will need to edit the fstab and place it there after or before running cfdisk on the drive?
[05:06] <omeganine> sohmc: Do you have your display drivers installed?
[05:06] <rc-1> how do i set my resolution to 1650x1080 at 60hzi?
[05:06] <sohmc> omeganine, yes
[05:06] <guest_> I also need to format it as ext3 as well, is that done via cfdisk?
[05:07] <litropy> guys
[05:07] <omeganine> sohmc: You need to setup your monitor...GIve me a sec, forgot the command in ubuntu
[05:07] <guest_> rc, you can change that in a conf file
[05:07] <guest_> I think it's Xorg.conf
[05:07] <nickv111> I have an MPEG 2 file. How do I convert this to a .ogm?
[05:07] <guest_> do a locate xorg.conf
[05:07] <rc-1> im using beryl does that make a difference?
[05:08] <guest_> Then you can vi into that file and change the resolution manuall I believe
[05:08] <guest_> I don't know what beryl is
[05:08] <varsendaggr> Hello, i am having a problem with fluxbox... im a noob and the menu is not showing up in fluxbox when i first right click
[05:08] <manmadha> he can u plz tell me how to do php programs in linux...?i have installed php&apache........
[05:08] <omeganine> sohmc:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --priority=medium
[05:08] <manmadha> But i dont know how to run the php programs
[05:08] <manmadha> can any one help me/
[05:08] <litropy> I have a guy whose usb keyboard interfeace is screwed, but he can still use his mouse. It IS the keyboard interface and not his keyboard. Is there a way to set an ubuntu livecd to boot automatically, without keystrokes, and without setting anything in the os on the hard drive?
[05:08] <wceoscar> i have azureus
[05:08] <wceoscar> as my client
[05:08] <sohmc> omeganine, I tried running that and it crasshes
[05:09] <omeganine> sohmc: What display drivers are you using?
[05:09] <kalikiana> guest_: use gparted for formatting
[05:09] <manmadha> any body there?
[05:09] <bobbie__4> Does George Bush use Linux?
[05:09] <harry> noldon. how do i specify the filetype. what kind of command
[05:09] <sohmc> intel
[05:09] <sohmc> brb
[05:09] <guest_> I remember using a command line interface utility to format, but I guess I can use gparted
[05:10] <guest_> it would be nice to know how to format through the CLI
[05:10] <haxality> hey, I want to run a program at bootup. how do I do this? will putting the command in a text file and playing it in /etc/init.d/ be enough?
[05:10] <haxality> playing = placing
[05:10] <kalikiana> guest_: sry, don't have it in mind right now
[05:10] <guest_> Oh, if anyoe wants to read a great 80 page essay on the command line interface, I found a Neal Stephenson essay on it. check it out
[05:10] <noldon> guest_ u using mkfs.ext3 to format a hdd
[05:10] <noldon> harry i dont remember youre issue
[05:10] <dibblego> haxality, man update-rc
[05:10] <haxality> thanks a ton dibblego
[05:10] <guest_> noldon, that was the one
[05:10] <guest_> mkfs is the one
[05:11] <guest_> noldon: before you mount the drive, you will need to format it by mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb correct?
[05:11] <dibblego> haxality, sorry, update-rc.d
[05:12] <noldon> wasnt it /dev/hdc3?
[05:12] <varsendaggr> Hello does anyone have any idea why my menu is not showing up when i right click in fluxbox
[05:12] <guest_> You might have to recreate your fluxbox profile varsen
[05:12] <guest_> That happened to me on GNOME
[05:12] <guest_> I could not see my bar on the top
[05:12] <guest_> so I just recreated my gnome profile
[05:13] <litropy> alright... one more time - sorry for flooding - this guy really needs to get to his computer....
[05:13] <litropy> I have a guy whose usb keyboard interfeace is screwed, but he can still use his mouse. It IS the keyboard interface and not his keyboard. Is there a way to set an ubuntu livecd to boot automatically, without keystrokes, and without setting anything in the os on the hard drive?
[05:13] <noldon> guest_ yes before u mount it i think dont remember
[05:13] <wceoscar> How Can i install Spash Screns?? i downloaded a dfew and what to enable them as i did with the start screen
[05:13] <noldon> spash?
[05:14] <Blacken> O-kay, so can anyone tell me why just about every major process--Xorg, gaim, Ktorrent, etc.--on my machine would suddenly start SCREAMING for resources? I just had to actually reboot my box because four processes were demanding 100%+ cpu time.
[05:14] <haxality> ok, let's hope this works.
[05:14] <varsendaggr> guest_: how do i do that?
[05:14] <rc-1> hmmm enabled them in xorg.conf but still dont show up in set resolution
[05:14] <rc-1> do i have to reboot?
[05:14] <guest_> When you mount you have to specify which filesystem the drive is, so it makes perfect sense to format the secondar drive by mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb
[05:15] <guest_> Then again how would you know that the drive you connected is sdb?
[05:15] <guest_> I guess you have to just know
[05:15] <wceoscar> How Can i install Spash Screns?? i downloaded a dfew and what to enable them as i did with the start screen
[05:15] <varsendaggr> guest_: i am having the same problem with gnome
[05:15] <varsendaggr> guest_: as well as fluxbox
[05:16] <noldon> is anyone seeing my msg
[05:16] <fr500> noldon: yah
[05:16] <varsendaggr> guest_: will recreating the profiles fix both those things?
[05:16] <haxality> ok..
[05:16] <noldon> fr500 dosnt seems like it
[05:17] <guest_> I'm not sure but it sure won't hurt to try
[05:17] <guest_> when you find the filename
[05:17] <guest_> just do a mv filename filename.old
[05:17] <varsendaggr> guest_: how do i do it?
[05:17] <haxality> the script I placed in /etc/init.d/ didn't work
[05:17] <guest_> let me find out what file it is
[05:17] <guest_> the gnome profile is in your home folder somewhere let me hunt for it
[05:18] <varsendaggr> guest_: ok
[05:18] <guest_> it's one of those crazy hiden files
[05:18] <guest_> it starts wit ha dot
[05:18] <DanaG> well, that's just great: sbackup's restore tool DOESN'T WORK!
[05:18] <varsendaggr> guest: :D
[05:18] <noldon> wceoscar no idea
[05:18] <guest_> ok, varsendagger
[05:18] <varsendaggr> guest_: yes?
[05:18] <noldon> didnt knew that ubuntu had a splash screen
[05:19] <noldon> i guess i missed that
[05:19] <guest_> try mv .gnome .gnome.old to recreate your gnome profile, but don't take my word for it, i'm not to osure
[05:19] <wceoscar> spash screens?? hot to apply them?
[05:19] <guest_> That will rename your .gnome file to .gnome.old
[05:19] <guest_> Which will force gnome to create another brand new profile
[05:19] <guest_> sort of like your firefox profile when it gets corrupted, you can do the same thing
[05:20] <varsendaggr> guest_: ok so let me see if i understand... this will delete my 2 profiles i have in ubuntu and then i will replace them with one new one and everything should work?
[05:20] <guest_> it won't delete them
[05:20] <guest_> it will rename the file to .old
[05:20] <DanaG> OSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/sbin/tmpp_UZEN/sbin/swapoff'
[05:20] <DanaG> OSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/bin/tmpWv32dQ/bin/pidof'
[05:20] <varsendaggr> guest_: ok
[05:20] <DanaG> wtf?
[05:20] <guest_> mv .fluxbox .fluxbox.old
[05:21] <guest_> you'll have to bounce the xserverr by ctrl alt del ling
[05:21] <guest_> Try that and let me know if it work
[05:21] <guest_> works
[05:21] <varsendaggr> guest_: o i see then would i delete a profile i dont want in ubuntu the same way?
[05:21] <noldon> wceoscar an u read me?
[05:21] <noldon> can
[05:21] <noldon> damn
[05:21] <guest_> No reason to delete your profile, just rename it so you have it just in case shite hits the fan
[05:21] <noldon> can*
[05:22] <varsendaggr> guest_: ok ty very much
[05:22] <guest_> I haven't tried this, I heard it works fine, but get back to me on that ok
[05:22] <guest_> does anyone know if I can run vmware for free and try ubuntu on my pc
[05:23] <guest_> I know vmplayer is free, but the ubuntu image, how does that work
[05:23] <codo> hello all
[05:23] <kalikiana> guest_: there is qemu :)
[05:23] <Music_Shuffle> Hi.
[05:23] <jgk> guest_:  I recommend qemu also.
[05:23] <codo> I want a screensaver of my photos, i cant find a way to do so :( ?
[05:23] <codo> on dapper ?
[05:24] <codo> any suggestions ?
[05:24] <guest_> Hi codo
[05:24] <codo> guest_ hello
[05:24] <guest_> It will be a good day when google releases picasa to run natively on linux
[05:25] <guest_> and have it be a screensaver
[05:25] <noldon> wceoscar if u hear me do like this  to change splash screen take the png files from the splash screen u like to use and replace it with the old one in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[05:25] <harry> noldon: i just mounted my /dev/hdc3. it was my other Ext3 harddrive. i wanted back it up but the problem, i cant copy all of them. some of my files are restricted.
[05:25] <harry> noldon: how do i change the permission of the files. rightclicking+properties doesnt work
[05:25] <codo> guest_ heh, but do you know a way i can get my dapper box to show screensaver of my photos ?
[05:26] <guest_> No I felt like commenting without any substantial help, sorry
[05:26] <guest_> :-D
[05:26] <harry> i just mounted my /dev/hdc3. it was my other Ext3 harddrive. i wanted back it up but the problem, i cant copy all of them. some of my files are restricted.
[05:26] <noldon> harry bee root in a konsole or terminal and write chmod u+rxw location
[05:26] <guest_> Here's a question, how do I view a bitmap file off of command line?
[05:26] <codo> guest_ hahaha
[05:27] <mheath[laptop] > guest_, you mean like, erm, http://picasa.google.com/linux/ ?
[05:27] <hanasaki> I used to be able to hit ^m to start an email in thunderbird while in firefox.. now it odes nothing .. is there a way to reset this feature?
[05:28] <guest_> mheath: holy daylight batman, I didnt know picasa was out for linux
[05:28] <codo> okay i now know my GLSlideShow is screwed :(
[05:28] <Explosif> anyone know any good irc channels for hardware, i had a couple questons to ask, and i dont really know where to find the answers =/
[05:29] <Andypat10> !DVD
[05:29] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:29] <noldon> harry : or for example chown "username" /media/"location of /dev/hdc3" -R
[05:29] <kalikiana> mheath: that's only built with wine, isn't it?
[05:29] <noldon> it could be -r to im not sure
[05:29] <Nilisco> H3g3m0n, finally got it working, it apparently is a pretty big bug that is unresolved.  I had to remove gli and dri from xorg.conf, and the live cd is now booting in some sort of vesa mode and installing.  Apparently fglrx would have fixed it as you suggested.  Thanks!
[05:29] <guest_> how do I view a bitmap image off of command line?
[05:29] <[Blackheart] > Hello... I get this warning when I restart saslauthd, anyone know what it is?
[05:29] <[Blackheart] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34047/
[05:30] <H3g3m0n> Nilisco: nps
[05:30] <noldon> [Blackheart]  yes its an internet adress
[05:30] <noldon> on the world wide web u know
[05:30] <[Blackheart] > If you click the address, you will see the error
[05:30] <noldon> hehe ok
[05:31] <suricate> guest_: gimp image
[05:31] <harry> noldon: why does it always say invalid user?
[05:31] <foo> I set up nvidia hardware raid (mirroring) .. with 2 identical sata drives. Under ubuntu, this should look like /dev/sda, and /dev/sdb should not exist? Right? If it does, then linux doesn't have the drivers for the hardware raid?
[05:32] <harry> noldon: i just entered the user of this computer
[05:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> does anything else out there play .rmvbs aside from realplayer?
[05:32] <guest_> suricate: thanks, is there something more lightwieght though, I'm running cygwin with xserver, not sure if this will work well
[05:32] <suricate> feh
[05:32] <suricate> imagemagick
[05:32] <sohmc> grrr...widescreen is still not working...got the resolution, but not the refresh rate
[05:32] <guest_> TY suricate
[05:32] <noldon> harry ?
[05:33] <harry> noldon: i typed chown harry /media/dev/hdc3 -R
[05:33] <harry> noldon: is that right?
[05:33] <noldon> harry and what did the error said
[05:34] <harry> noldon: `harry': invalid user
[05:34] <[Blackheart] > Did anyone get a chance to look at my paste? It's something about perl whinging about locales whenever I do something like apt-get install a package or restart a daemon
[05:34] <noldon> well then the user name dont exis
[05:34] <noldon> t
[05:34] <noldon> r u sure the username is harry
[05:34] <guest_> Ok that ws interesting, I installed mysql  server and client via apt-get, it complaine about needing dependencies, so I ran apt-get -f install, and it installed the dependences for Mysql, how did that happen? the command I used didn't specify ANYTHING about mysql
[05:34] <harry> noldon: of this computer YES.
[05:35] <harry> noldon: the username that i used when i logged in
[05:35] <noldon> and its in all small letters
[05:35] <Andypat10> !dvd
[05:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:35] <sohmc> how can I change the refreshrate of my monitor?
[05:35] <noldon> so its not Harry or HARRY or HaRrY
[05:35] <guest_> Does apt-get -f install  automatically know what dependencies my computer is missing?
[05:35] <noldon> or something like that
[05:35] <harry> noldon: let me check a again
[05:36] <harry> noldon: no its not. i still get the same error
[05:37] <noldon> harry try it without the -R
[05:37] <guest_> Well it installed the dependencies and now I'm running mysql, so I guess it did. Sweet.
[05:38] <skyfaller> hey folks, what version of GNOME is Ubuntu 6.10 using?  shouldn't fast user switching be included? http://ignore-your.tv/fusa/ says it's included in GNOME 2.14
[05:38] <harry> noldon: oh i get it. i'm sorry. the username was my nickname. i didnt use harry at all. i recognized when i looked at my home folder
[05:38] <noldon> ok
[05:39] <poningru> ...
[05:39] <poningru> skyfaller: dude...
[05:39] <mikeR> I am absolutely at witts end with Skype
[05:39] <skyfaller> poningru: what?  stalker.
[05:39] <noldon> harry write ls -la /media when u done to see if it changed owner
[05:39] <mikeR> Has anyone had problems using skype?
[05:39] <harry> noldon: but that didnt work to enable the read and right thing
[05:40] <poningru> well it includes 2.16.1
[05:40] <noldon> hmm
[05:40] <harry> noldon: how will i know if it changed a user?
[05:40] <skyfaller> poningru: OK, so why doesn't it appear to include the fast user switching applet then?
[05:40] <noldon> it could be that u have to edit it in fstab
[05:40] <poningru> the waah?
[05:40] <malt> is it hard to install cpanel on ubuntu?
[05:40] <noldon> harry write ls -la /media
[05:41] <elkbuntu> mikeR, i was using it this morning to talk to someone on the other side of the world, and it was crystal clear
[05:41] <noldon> if ure username is at the same line as the map then it worked
[05:41] <skyfaller> poningru: am I being dumb?
[05:41] <skyfaller> poningru: also, how can I check versions of things like GNOME?
[05:41] <mikeR> elkbuntu I like skype, I just cant get it to install properly
[05:41] <vmware> ``
[05:41] <poningru> hmm ic
[05:41] <poningru> no
[05:41] <harry> noldon: i already did that. i got some kind of lines "drwxr-xr-x   19 root root  8192 2006-08-04 20:17 lib
[05:41] <harry> " i just took some of it to paste it here
[05:42] <mikeR> Its not communicating with my audio card properly
[05:42] <elkbuntu> mikeR, i used the deb from the skype page
[05:42] <poningru> skyfaller: generally help->about
[05:42] <mikeR> I cant make the test call
[05:42] <mikeR> Yeah same here, but Its not working for me
[05:42] <wceoscar> How can i change the reslution or something simillar of the shel... ctrl+alt+f1... when i enter the shell the characters seem to be taller than wider... like when u use an incorrect resolution
[05:42] <elkbuntu> mikeR, no idea then, sorry
[05:42] <mikeR> I dont think linux is reading mymic
[05:42] <mikeR> yeah thanks
[05:42] <noldon> harry then u didnt change it
[05:42] <skyfaller> poningru: OK
[05:42] <noldon> were it saids root the first time is the owner
[05:42] <harry> noldon: do i have to change something?
[05:43] <poningru> skyfaller: sudo aptitude install fast-user-switch-applet
[05:43] <noldon> drwx------   4 noldon(<---owner) noldon      4096 2006-10-26 22:01 tmp
[05:43] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: OK, I'll try that
[05:43] <harry> noldon: how do i change its owner?
[05:43] <noldon> harry did u got any errors?
[05:44] <noldon> hmm maybe its not possible to change owner when its mounted
[05:44] <noldon> wait
[05:44] <wceoscar>  How can i change the reslution or something simillar of the shel... ctrl+alt+f1... when i enter the shell the characters seem to be taller than wider... like when u use an incorrect resolution
[05:44] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: this still doesn'
[05:45] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: sorry?
[05:45] <rc-1> java windows dont resize (the windows do but not the content)
[05:45] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: doesn't answer my question about why Ubuntu doesn't seem to include that applet, but I guess I don't care anymore
[05:45] <harry> noldon: no nothing just happened.
[05:45] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: guess the devs just didnt want to include it by default
[05:45] <sizzam> skyfaller-linux: what applet are you looking for?
[05:45] <poningru> did it work though?
[05:45] <skyfaller-linux> sizzam: the fast-user-switching applet
[05:46] <sizzam> skyfaller-linux: oooh, yea, i like that applet too
[05:46] <harry> noldon: i still cant copy the other contents of /dev/hdc3
[05:46] <DanaG> easy way to oops and panic the kernel:
[05:46] <DanaG> be using ALSA 1.0.13 (in custom kernel)
[05:46] <DanaG> boot
[05:46] <DanaG> then insert cardbus Audigy
[05:46] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: do I have to restart or something?  the aptitude thing seems to have worked, but I don't see it as an option to add when I right-click on my menubar
[05:46] <thrillin`> i'm back for assistance
[05:46] <DanaG> then remove cardbus Audigy
[05:46] <thrillin`> need help installing on my mac please
[05:47] <sizzam> skyfaller-linux: should be in the 'miscellaneous' section
[05:47] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: add to panel
[05:47] <poningru> see if its under their
[05:47] <thrillin`> anyone willing to help a pelb
[05:47] <poningru> there*
[05:47] <rc-1> heard you install through bootcamp not sure though
[05:47] <poningru> thrillin`: whats up?
[05:47] <thrillin`> sup
[05:47] <skyfaller-linux> sizzam: buh?  I don't see a miscellaneous section
[05:47] <noldon> harry did it change owner?
[05:47] <thrillin`> i need help to install ubuntu on powerbook
[05:47] <DanaG> I tried the Edgy CD on a friend's MacBook.  It didn't even try to boot the CD.
[05:47] <sizzam> skyfaller-linux: that means you must not have it, its the only thing in misc (depending on what other applets you have)
[05:48] <noldon> harry try to do a chmod a+rxw /media/hdc3 -R
[05:48] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: right click on an empty part of the panel and click on add to panel
[05:48] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: I still don't see it when I do the add to panel thing
[05:48] <poningru> oh
[05:48] <poningru> hold on
[05:48] <sizzam> skyfaller-linux: what does the terminal respond with when you do sudo aptitude install fast-user-switch-applet
[05:48] <thrillin`> i nvr install ubuntu on a mac b4...so i in dying need for help
[05:48] <mabreaux> how do you sync a palm Vx with gnome-pilo
[05:49] <skyfaller-linux> sizzam: it went through all the steps that suggest that it has installed it successfully
[05:49] <mabreaux> pilot
[05:49] <thrillin`> i'll even do your homework....lol
[05:49] <poningru> thrillin`: what trouble are you having?
[05:49] <skyfaller-linux> sizzam: it downloaded it, installed it, and set it up
[05:49] <thrillin`> i want to know how to do it
[05:49] <poningru> oh hold on
[05:49] <thrillin`> and how to remove it as well
[05:49] <sizzam> skyfaller-linux: check 'add to panel' again
[05:49] <thrillin`> thx
[05:49] <poningru> !mac
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <noldon> harry forget the x
[05:50] <mabreaux> !gnome-pilot
[05:50] <ubotu> gnome-pilot: A GNOME applet for management of your Palm PDA. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.14-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 207 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[05:50] <harry> noldon: my /dev/hdc3 was an ubuntu 6.06. theres an installed ubuntu 6.06 there
[05:50] <skyfaller-linux> sizzam: I did man, I did... it's definitely not there, there is no miscellaneous section.
[05:50] <noldon> harry ok so
[05:50] <sizzam> skyfaller-linux: the next thing i would do is restart gnome with ctrl+alt+backspace, then check again
[05:50] <skyfaller-linux> OK, brb I guess
[05:50] <harry> noldon: your not aware of it. i thought so
[05:50] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: restart gnome
[05:50] <poningru> yeah
[05:51] <noldon> harry just chown a+rw /media/hdc3 -R
[05:51] <harry> noldon: nothing happened
[05:51] <poningru> thats weird it showed up for me
[05:51] <poningru> without having to restart
[05:51] <sizzam> same here
[05:52] <noldon> what do u mean nothing happend didnt it change the permission on /media/hdc3?
[05:52] <harry> noldon: nope
[05:52] <thrillin`> :( that link was no help...thanx though
[05:52] <poningru> thrillin`: what kinda mac is it again?
[05:52] <thrillin`> i guess no ubuntu on my mac then :'(
[05:52] <amicrawle> how doi speed up the bandwith on my ftp server ?
[05:52] <noldon> then u maybe have to change fstab
[05:52] <thrillin`> powerbook g4
[05:53] <thrillin`> no intel chip
[05:53] <skyfaller-linux> poningru, sizzam: ok, it's there now, thanks guys :)
[05:53] <noldon> harry do a umount /media/hdc3 and then try to change the permission
[05:53] <sizzam> you're welcome skyfaller-linux
[05:53] <skyfaller-linux> sizzam: especially thanks for telling me how to restart gnome
[05:53] <noldon> and then remount it
[05:53] <sizzam> no problem :-)
[05:53] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: dude that is weird... it showed up for me without restart
[05:54] <noldon> ur send me a copy of  youre fstab and i look at it
[05:54] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: btw you can use that to restart X as well
[05:54] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: hm, that is weird.... ok
[05:54] <skyfaller-linux> I wonder why
[05:56] <harry> noldon: can you give me a link for the ubuntu pastebin
[05:57] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: do you have any thoughts on gdesklets?  I can't get most of them to work... not a single weather widget functioned
[05:57] <sizzam> !pastebin
[05:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:57] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: I'm kind of disappointed because it looks like it has a lot of potential...
[05:57] <harry> noldon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34054/
[05:57] <poningru> skyfaller-linux: thats weird...
[05:57] <poningru> the weather thing didnt work?
[05:58] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: I mean, I have one in my menubar through "add to panel"... but I wanted one on my desktop
[05:58] <globe> Is there some setting I have to do to get xarchiver to use unrar or unrar-free? .... they are installed but it still tells me that I do not have the proper archiver.
[05:59] <poningru> on your desktop?
[05:59] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: there are 4 different weather widgets that you can get through gdesklets, and none of them work for me, they seem to have trouble connecting
[05:59] <poningru> weird
[05:59] <poningru> oh gdesklet... yeah never experimented with that
[05:59] <skyfaller-linux> poningru: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDesklets
[05:59] <skyfaller-linux> it looks really nice
[06:00] <Andypat10> !gxine
[06:00] <ubotu> gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 1216 kB
[06:00] <mabreaux> anyone try syncing with a palm using gnome-pilot?
[06:00] <Andypat10> !dvd menu
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <Andypat10> !dvd
[06:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:01] <mabreaux> !!
[06:02] <noldon_> harry how does it work out for u
[06:02] <mabreaux> do we have any palm users who sync with gnome-pilot?
[06:02] <mabreaux> or with another program
[06:03] <Acu> I have a question about apache and php: It seem that I am not able to make apache 2.2.3 or 1.3 to use php either 4 or 5 - I found out that some glitches are there but I do not know how to overcome it - is any official chatroom for php or apache ?
[06:03] <skyfaller-linux> I'm kind of annoyed that gdesklets doesn't seem to have an IRC channel
[06:04] <skyfaller-linux> I hate projects that don't have IRC channels
[06:04] <skyfaller-linux> forums are a pain in the ass
[06:04] <Jager-> Hey
[06:04] <poningru> haha true that
[06:04] <Jager-> is Kevin` here?
[06:04] <Music_Shuffle> skyfaller, why, are you having issues with gdesklets? =/
[06:04] <Kevin`> yes
[06:05] <guest_> someone asked earlier how to check which runlevel yo uare in
[06:05] <harry> noldon_: i still cant change the permissions
[06:05] <guest_> that'll tell ya
[06:05] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: well, I'm trying to move my dad from Mac OS X to Ubuntu (it's going to be tough, I know)... one of the things he uses is Dashboard widgets, specifically ones for weather
[06:05] <guest_> !sbin!runlevel
[06:05] <Jager-> Kevin` do you remeber my problem I told you about earlier? Could you help me with that?
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sbin!runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <Music_Shuffle> I use the weather ones >.>
[06:05] <guest_> !compile!kernel
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile!kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <matjan> hi, i have a big problem playing dvd's... i have installed all libraries, codecs and what not for it but still have trouble... for this particular cd, it plays for 20 minutes and then just quits... what could be the problem?
[06:05] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: interesting... I don't suppose you could help me get mine working?
[06:05] <Kevin`> Jager- no entry for windows you mean?
[06:06] <Jager-> Kevin` Yes
[06:06] <Kevin`> sure
[06:06] <Kevin`> show me your partition layout
[06:06] <Music_Shuffle> What's broken about them?
[06:06] <Jager-> Kevin` Thanks :)
[06:06] <guest_> ubot provided a link to compile a kernel on ubuntu, can someone help me do that again
[06:06] <guest_> !kernel
[06:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:06] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: they won't connect
[06:06] <Jager-> Kevin` How? ?
[06:06] <Jager-> Kevin` in cfdisk?
[06:06] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: which weather widgets are you using?
[06:06] <Kevin`> Jager- sure anything like that
[06:06] <matjan> for another (commercial) dvd, the menus make xine, vlc or totem frak out, i.e. they crash...
[06:06] <Kevin`> fdisk -l
[06:06] <ivx> hey where is the grub.conf file located
[06:06] <Kevin`> whatever
[06:06] <mborohov> !topic
[06:06] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[06:06] <matjan> i guess i am missing something, but i have no idea what
[06:07] <mecho> ?
[06:07] <guest_> ivx
[06:07] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: there are 4 options
[06:07] <skyfaller-linux> for weather widgets that I see
[06:07] <guest_> ivx: do a locate grub.conf and the answer will be revealed to you
[06:07] <Music_Shuffle> I'm on KDE right now actually, but I remember I had to fight some to find a widget that had what I wanted.  A p.i.t.a. in the worst way. =/
[06:07] <Kevin`>  /boot/grub should be
[06:08] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: oh, so you're NOT actually using gdesklets then :P
[06:08] <Music_Shuffle> I do, when I use Gnome. ;P
[06:08] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: so what do you recommend?
[06:09] <Music_Shuffle> Trial them all yourself and see if you can't jury-rig one to work?  I sorta used the try-try-try again method myself.
[06:09] <eyequeue> guest_, ivx, /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu, no grub.conf
[06:09] <R_head> someone could help me to access my hd, there is red x on them and dont know why
[06:09] <blanky> is there a way to enlarge my linux partition
[06:09] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: damned if I can get any of them to work...
[06:09] <blanky> nevermind I'll figure it out, hopefully
[06:09] <thevenin> blanky: gparted
[06:10] <Jager-> Kevin`: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=3z7iwd2
[06:10] <Kevin`> blanky gparted
[06:10] <guest_> blanky: gparted
[06:10] <thevenin> lol
[06:10] <Kevin`> Jager- you know, you could copy that as text :)
[06:10] <Jager-> Meh lol
[06:10] <guest_> anyone got ddwrt up and running?
[06:10] <Kevin`> jack- at boot, press c to get to the command line, then try
[06:10] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: the "sidecandy weather" one looks like the one that's functioning in the screenshot on Wikipedia, but all it says for me is "[fail] "
[06:10] <Kevin`> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[06:11] <Kevin`> chainloader +1
[06:11] <Kevin`> boot
[06:11] <Jager-> Kevin` You're seeing it exactly as it is, i coudltn have messed anything up ;)
[06:11] <guest_> I just got a WRT54 GL router, I'm wondering what the easiest way to do that would be, the wiki howto is HUGE
[06:11] <Music_Shuffle> skyfaller, sec and I'll fire up Gnome and check mine.
[06:11] <Kevin`> erm
[06:11] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: ok, thank you :)
[06:11] <Kevin`> s/jack-/jager-
[06:11] <ivx> my computer says kernel panic: vfs: unable to mount root fs on 00:00 when i try to boot the smp kernel. i google it and suspected that there way a problem from there but it looks like it is suppost to (i think) does anyone know what is going on
[06:11] <Jager-> Kevin` ??
[06:11] <Kevin`> Jager- at boot, press c, then do
[06:11] <kelly_> can anyone give me some advice on installing programmes including desktop icons on ubuntu lts?
[06:12] <Kevin`> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[06:12] <Kevin`> chainloader +b
[06:12] <Kevin`> erm
[06:12] <Kevin`> chainloader +1
[06:12] <Kevin`> boot
[06:12] <Jager-> okay let me write this down.. lol
[06:12] <Kevin`> I said it correctly the first time, heh
[06:12] <Kevin`> when I said it to jack- accidently
[06:12] <kelly_> hello need a little advice please
[06:13] <Jager-> chainloader + L or plus 1 (one) ?
[06:13] <guest_> How do I install the linux header packages?
[06:13] <Kevin`> kelly_ some advice: just ask for what you want, don't ask about asking
[06:13] <guest_> Apparently I don't need to custom compile a linux kernel to compile a driver as a module
[06:13] <Jager-> l 1
[06:13] <Kevin`> Jager- + one
[06:13] <kelly_> what is the best antivirus programme for ubuntu??
[06:14] <Jager-> Kevin` Okay Ill go try that, brb
[06:14] <Jager-> Kevin` .. what will this do?
[06:14] <guest_> Kelly I wouldn't install an antivirus program
[06:14] <kitche> kelly_: well there really isn't one for linux most of the antivirus programs only scan windows viruses
[06:14] <guest_> It's a low level filesystem filter, it's just going to slow things down
[06:14] <kelly_> why is that??
[06:14] <Kevin`> kelly_ unless you plan to use it as a fileserver for windows machines antivirus isn't really needed
[06:14] <Dheeraj_k> why some 1 need antivirus in linux?
[06:14] <Kevin`> Jager- load windows, hopefully
[06:14] <kitche> Dheeraj_k: for a mail server or fileserver :)
[06:14] <kelly_> isanti virus needed when you use p2p programmes?
[06:14] <Jager-> Kevin` Will I need to do this every time I want to boot into windows?
[06:15] <kitche> kelly_: on windows yes on linux not really
[06:15] <matjan> hi, i have a big problem playing dvd's... i have installed all libraries, codecs and what not for it but still have trouble... for this particular cd, it plays for 20 minutes and then just quits... what could be the problem?
[06:15] <matjan> i guess i am missing something, but i have no idea what
[06:15] <matjan> for another (commercial) dvd, the menus make xine, vlc or totem frak out, i.e. they crash...
[06:15] <Kevin`> kelly_ if you are downloading linux warez, I suppose, but why would you do something so stupid
[06:15] <Kevin`> Jager- you can add it to the menu if it works
[06:15] <Jager-> K, Im gonna go try... wish me luck :o
[06:15] <guest_> Kelly a filter is going to slow down your disk I/O, just be the educated user you probably are and don't run any strange binaries...in fact your chances of getting infected are close to zero
[06:15] <guest_> You don't even need to be an educated user
[06:16] <Dheeraj_k> i don't think virus will harm in linux until user login as root
[06:16] <kelly_> I wanted to use limewire for music sharing ect have had countless problems with viruses on it with windows that is why i ask
[06:16] <Kevin`> Dheeraj_k it can erase user data, but viruses don't commonly infect linux anyway, due mostly to the diversity of programs used
[06:16] <floating> Can someone help me installing kanjipad, this: http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/kanjipad/
[06:17] <Kevin`> the windows viruses you get on limewire just plain won't work in linux
[06:17] <sizzam> floating: its in the repos
[06:17] <sizzam> floating: sudo aptitude install kanjipad
[06:17] <Kevin`> it's not that hard to avoid getting them in the first place, if your smart, even when using windows...
[06:17] <kelly_> that is loads better than windows then glad i changed now
[06:17] <kaiki> Kevin: Should Rootkits be watched out for though still?
[06:17] <Dheeraj_k> yeah i know thats why i am using ubuntu :)
[06:17] <floating> ohhh, sizzam, thanks. I searched it from the add/remove but there it wasnt
[06:18] <Kevin`> kaiki on limewire? lol
[06:18] <Kevin`> rootkits are installed by people often, not automatically like a virus
[06:18] <Kevin`> sure, look out for them.
[06:18] <kelly_> can i get a more up to date web browser for ubuntu other than firefox?
[06:18] <Kevin`> more importantly, don't run network services if you aren't using them
[06:18] <guest_> I dont understand why people are not using torrent clients and are still using things like limewire, bearshare, etc..
[06:19] <Dheeraj_k> actually i h8 antivirus thats why i never installed it on windows too. but never faced the problem of virus infection in windows
[06:19] <Kevin`> guest_ larger base of files still
[06:19] <guest_> Kelly, use firefox2
[06:19] <kelly_> can i get a more up to date web browser for ubuntu other than firefox??
[06:19] <guest_> Or opera, there is no bettter browser out there IMO
[06:19] <kelly_> and what is a torrent share?
[06:19] <Dheeraj_k> antivirus like norton is it self a big virus
[06:19] <Dheeraj_k> swiftfox
[06:19] <guest_> Kelly, go to utorrent.com and do some reading
[06:20] <Kevin`> bittorent is a protocol used for downloading files, that's all
[06:20] <ixian_> kelly_, you don't get much more 'up to date' than firefox
[06:20] <guest_> It's much beter than limewire
[06:20] <guest_> limewire, napster, bearshare, all old school
[06:20] <Kevin`> and usenet is much better then both of them =p
[06:20] <kelly_> i have heard about opera web browser is that any better?
[06:20] <Jager-> Kevin`, no luck there :/
[06:20] <Kevin`> Jager- what did it do.
[06:21] <ixian_> kelly_, depends on who you ask. most people prefer firefox over opera
[06:21] <Jager-> Kevin` when I typed chainloader +1 it said "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[06:21] <guest_> Kelly, Firefox should do it for you, I feel you're a bit shy of using firefox
[06:21] <Music_Shuffle> skyfaller, you still here?
[06:21] <Kevin`> Jager- that's interesting
[06:21] <guest_> It's one of the best if not the best browser out there
[06:21] <skyfaller> Music_Shuffle: yup
[06:21] <Music_Shuffle> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215769
[06:21] <Music_Shuffle> Should be your guide to success. ;)
[06:21] <Kevin`> try root (hd then press tab, to get a list of disks
[06:21] <Kevin`> and try partition 0 on any listed
[06:21] <kelly_> firefox is ok only it doesn't display things the same on things like ebay ect
[06:21] <guest_> kelly: just run sudo apt-get install firefox and that'll get you the latest version
[06:22] <bill57785> hey, can anyone help? I am trying to play music from a partition that was/is used by windows (I have linux installed with it). I can't play any music on that partition......when it goes to play each song, it just skips to the next (which in turn skips through them all). I've tried it with three different media players.
[06:22] <Kevin`> the same as what, kelly_
[06:22] <Jager-> in grub?
[06:22] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: Oh, these are screenscrapers?  that's really ugly
[06:22] <Kevin`> Jager- yes, in grub
[06:22] <Jager-> k
[06:22] <kelly_> the same as internet explorer 7 on xp
[06:22] <guest_> Kelly, what do you mean can you be more specific
[06:23] <Jager-> root gives me an error
[06:23] <guest_> i've always wondered why does everyone have an underscore by their username
[06:23] <Kevin`> kelly_ get over it, firefox works on many more platforms then xp (or complain to ebay that their site isn't working properly)
[06:23] <Dheeraj_k> which media player u r using?
[06:23] <malt> is it hard to install cpanel on ubuntu?
[06:23] <Dheeraj_k> @bill57785:
[06:23] <guest_> Kevin, Kelly makes a very good point though, she's probably trying to switch to linux and needs some help, be kinder please
[06:24] <Kevin`> never tried, cpanel is too expensive to install unless some client who's dependent on it pays for me to install it :)
[06:24] <ixian_> kelly_ could be a guy you know
[06:24] <ahab> you are right kelly, each browser decodes, and therefore in some ways displays wed pages differently
[06:24] <ahab> they are working on unifying web code, but for now, we bow to no man
[06:24] <ixian_> :P
[06:24] <guest_> She's probably trying to view flash or shockwave or other proprietary stuff
[06:24] <guest_> haha ixian, whatever
[06:24] <Kevin`> guest_ there's not much else to say, it's going to look slightly different, and you can't always change it
[06:24] <kaiki> Kelly: you could always run IE in a emulator
[06:24] <thrillin`> i need some mac help here please...again :(
[06:24] <Jager-> Er Kevin`, what do i type in grub?
[06:25] <Kevin`> guest_ flash works fine in firefox..
[06:25] <Kevin`> root (hd then press tab
[06:25] <Jager-> k
[06:25] <Kevin`> it will give a list of hard drives
[06:25] <Dheeraj_k> use the swiftfoz @kelly
[06:25] <Dheeraj_k> it is the optimized version of firefox
[06:25] <Dheeraj_k> swiftfox
[06:25] <guest_> Kevin I know what you mean, I just don't want people to get turned off when they're switching that's all. I think this channel is an awesome place to get help though, so props to everyone
[06:25] <bill57785> Dheeraj_k: I tried Kaffeine Player, amaroK, and Rhythmbox
[06:25] <Jager-> Kevin` Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[06:25] <cherubiel> kelly_: get ies4linux
[06:25] <Jager-> O_o
[06:26] <ahab> kelly could install flash for mozilla in ubuntu
[06:26] <ahab> it works fine for me even with ebay
[06:26] <guest_> Kelly: if firefox isn't showing things you way you see them in IE7, you can run it off Wine, which is an emulator, and it will allow you to run windows applications
[06:26] <guest_> cherubiel what is ies4linux
[06:26] <Kevin`> it's better to get used to the small differences then try to run some windows application in linux to have it look the same
[06:27] <cherubiel> guest_: www.tatanka.com.br
[06:27] <guest_>  before you install a package from apt-get, can you have it tell you some info about the package off the command line
[06:27] <ahab> can anyone see my text?
[06:27] <Jager-> yes
[06:27] <DARKGuy> I can
[06:27] <Kevin`> no ahab
[06:27] <Jager-> lol Kevin`
[06:27] <DARKGuy> oO lol
[06:27] <ahab> just checking to make sure i was logged in and all
[06:27] <guest_> that's true kevi
[06:27] <Jager-> Kevin' root (hd says the selected disk does not exist! -_-
[06:28] <Kevin`> Jager- you pressed tab right, not enter
[06:28] <Dheeraj_k> bill57785: enter this in terminal sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \ gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \ gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse w32codecs
[06:28] <Jager-> Im stupid
[06:28] <guest_> ies4linux looks awesome
[06:28] <Jager-> Kevin` when I hit tab, it just goes down and says the same thing?
[06:29] <Kevin`> the only reason to use IE in linux is if your a web developer and care about IE users :/
[06:29] <Kevin`> Jager- it doesn't list anything?
[06:29] <fildo> !mysqld
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysqld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <fildo> !mysql
[06:29] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:29] <Jager-> Kevin` Not a thing
[06:29] <Kevin`> Jager- try root(hd0,1)
[06:29] <Kevin`> erm
[06:29] <Kevin`> root (hd0,0)
[06:30] <sysrage_> how do i install x-chat?? i an ubuntu noob, but not a linux noob. apt-get install xchat doent like me
[06:30] <Jager-> selected disk does not exist
[06:30] <Dheeraj_k> !ugly
[06:30] <cherubiel> Jager-: what does fdisk -l /dev/hda give
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ugly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <poningru> sysrage: you have to add multiverse/universe repos
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> sysrage, KDE or Gnome?
[06:30] <Kevin`> Jager- that's very odd, how is grub booting linux then
[06:30] <Dheeraj_k> sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:30] <poningru> sysrage: its xchat2 btw
[06:30] <cherubiel> !info xchat
[06:30] <sysrage_> and why the heck do i have to type  twice before it shows up in knosole?
[06:30] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[06:30] <Kevin`> Jager- paste the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin.ca
[06:30] <sysrage_> oooh xchat2
[06:30] <poningru> or not
[06:30] <Jager-> alright
[06:30] <cherubiel> !info xchat2
[06:30] <ubotu> Package xchat2 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:31] <Dheeraj_k> !kde
[06:31] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:31] <suricate> xchat-gnome
[06:31] <poningru> yeah it is xchat
[06:31] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: wait a minute... this is from September!  They haven't fixed the default Gdesklets package since then??
[06:31] <eyequeue> !info xchat edgy
[06:31] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[06:31] <thrillin`> anyone know where i could garab a cheap laptop
[06:31] <sysrage_> if i in kde do i do xchat-kde?
[06:31] <thrillin`> *grab
[06:31] <thrillin`> to put ubuntu on
[06:32] <Kevin`> thrillin` ebay, as always :)
[06:32] <suricate> sysrage_: no :P
[06:32] <Kevin`> or go to a store and browse laptops
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> No no, not xchat-kde.
[06:32] <thrillin`> true
[06:32] <sizzam> thrillin`: maybe craigslist.com
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> skyfaller, I don't think so. =/
[06:32] <Frem> you'd use kopete if you were using kde, not xchat.
[06:32] <Jager-> Kevin` http://pastebin.ca/258158
[06:32] <sizzam> thrillin`: oops, craigslist.org
[06:32] <thrillin`> i just not confident enough to do it on mac
[06:32] <sysrage_> kinda stupid package name if there isnt one for both..
[06:32] <Kevin`> thrillin` the only thing you need to be aware of is to check the hardware on that laptop model before buying
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> Its not Kopete, its Konversation, isn't it?
[06:32] <sysrage_> omg this double  is pissing me off. what causes that?
[06:32] <Firefishe> Has anyone here using a 1ghz g4 aluminum powerbook been able to enable right-clicking via a ctrl/alt/apple key + left click sequence?
[06:32] <thrillin`> need to learn more about mac first
[06:32] <noldon_> kopete?
[06:32] <Kevin`> thrillin` linux works great on the macbook I have here
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> Kopete's just for messenger.
[06:32] <Kevin`> macbooks are hardly cheap though
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> Konversation is the IRC client.
[06:33] <Firefishe> that's one or the other key + left click
[06:33] <thrillin`> [00:36]  <Kevin`> thrillin` linux works great on the macbook I have here <-- i have a powerbook and a desktop pc
[06:33] <noldon_> just use xchat
[06:33] <Frem> Music_Shuffle, I'm an XFCE fan, so I'm a bit fuzzy about KDE to start with. ;-)
[06:33] <Jager-> xchat is very good
[06:33] <thrillin`> kevin: how did you get it to work on yours...install process etc?
[06:33] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: GDesklets is in really sad shape... someone needs to take over the project and give it an overhaul
[06:33] <DARKGuy> I agree
[06:33] <Jager-> But mIRC is my fav.. and I wish it was for linux
[06:33] <DARKGuy> or irssi for terminal-based chat
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> skyfaller, go for it? ;)
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Frem, heh.  Got it yet? :)
[06:33] <sysrage_> installing xchat-gnome (even though im in kde *sigh*.. but why on earth is my konsole making me hit  twice before it shows up?
[06:33] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: Is KDE better?  Should I switch to Kubuntu?  How are the widgets there? ;-)
[06:34] <cherubiel> Jager-: the comment says it was autodetected on hdb
[06:34] <cherubiel> try root (hd1, 0)
[06:34] <Kevin`> thrillin` actually it was deceptively easy, pressed option on boot and selected the cd (debian etch at the time)
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> Umm, Kubuntu hates me, so I hate it too. </3.
[06:34] <Dheeraj_k> i am using gaim to access irc :)
[06:34] <Firefishe> Jager-, wine usually runs mirc with no trouble, but logging doesn't usually work across the partitions.
[06:34] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: alas :(
[06:34] <Jager-> cherubiel alright
[06:34] <suricate> sysrage_: konversation is better for kde IMO
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> I use KDE under Ubuntu, and have KDE, Gnome, Flux, and IceWM installed. Oh, and Enlightenment. Much shiny.
[06:34] <noldon_> sysrage what u mean xchat-gnome?
[06:34] <Kevin`> thrillin` this is an x86 macintosh, there are distros for ppc macintosh, but as I don't have one i've never used them
[06:35] <Kevin`> does ubuntu have a ppc version? (to channel(
[06:35] <Reality-X> sup folks, I just installed Mepis(Ubuntu Derived) and am looking to set it up as a Firewall/GW machine to provide net access to my network. Iptables is installed and built into the kernel. I was wondering if there happens to be any nice GUI for it out there, or am i going to have to write script files?
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah, you can run IRC through Gaim, Konversation, XChat, BitchX...there's a lot of clients.
[06:35] <skyfaller-linux> Kevin`: yes
[06:35] <Jager-> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[06:35] <Jager-> wtf
[06:35] <Firefishe> Kevin`:  Yes, and I'm on it ;)
[06:35] <guest_> cherubiel, what does !info xchat do
[06:35] <Kevin`> great :)
[06:35] <thrillin`> well
[06:35] <suricate> Reality-X: google for Quicktables
[06:35] <thrillin`> help please
[06:35] <suricate> or something
[06:35] <Jager-> cherubiel "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[06:35] <thrillin`> i wanna do it on my maac too
[06:35] <Kevin`> Jager- root (hd0,0)
[06:35] <thrillin`> share d wealth ppl
[06:35] <Kevin`> chainloader +1
[06:35] <Kevin`> boot
[06:35] <Reality-X> suricate, thanks
[06:36] <Jager-> cherubiel "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[06:36] <skyfaller-linux> Music_Shuffle: so you would recommend running KDE?  I was, um, concerned that running both KDE and GNOME at the same time would slow down my machine
[06:36] <bill57785> Dheeraj_k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34061/
[06:36] <skyfaller-linux> otherwise I suppose I could try the KDE widget engine
[06:36] <Frem> javac is complaining that it can't find package hsa, and i can't find this package in the repos.
[06:36] <Firefishe> skyfaller-linux:  at the same time? how's that possible?  two x servers?
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> I have both up right now, runs just fine, and my machine's nothing special I assure you.  It was average 4 years ago. ;P
[06:36] <thrillin`> Firefishe: you running OSX still as well?
[06:36] <sysrage_> what the hell is this crap?
[06:36] <Kevin`> skyfaller-linux it very likely could slow down your machine, but how would you run both at once? having both installed wouldn't be running both
[06:36] <Jager-> Kevin` "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[06:36] <Dheeraj_k> i am running both kde and gnome but kde is way better
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> Actually, I have Ice up too. Odd.
[06:37] <skyfaller-linux> Firefishe: erm, I meant using KDE and GNOME programs at the same time
[06:37] <Kevin`> Jager- try just root(hd0,1)
[06:37] <sysrage_> xchat-gnome is far from the xchat i want
[06:37] <cherubiel> Jager-: wait, what are you trying to do btw?
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> Kevin`, you can run both at the same time.
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> Or three, or howmanyever really.
[06:37] <lmosher> How do I set the volume label of a device (/dev/sda2 for example)? I have a USB disk that I formatted FAT32. I then labeled it in windows as 'DATA', which also applied in Linux. I re-sized the partition in linux and now the label is "</body></ht". In Windows it still reads as "data".
[06:37] <ahab> skyfaller- you can boot each session seperately so that they dont run at the same time
[06:37] <Jager-> Kevin` "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[06:37] <Kevin`> skyfaller-linux in my experience, any slowdown from that isn't significant
[06:37] <thrillin`> Firefishe: you running OSX still as well?
[06:37] <Jager-> cherubiel I cant boot into windows...
[06:37] <Firefishe> thrillin`:  yes, as I have quite an investment in Tiger.  But I'm also working to get KDE up and running, but my home directory's file permissions won't let the x server or kde's apps write their system files to the DOT files.
[06:38] <skyfaller-linux> sorry folks, I'm like a Linux noob again... I haven't run Linux in 3 years, I got a Mac when I realized there wasn't any good video-editing software for Linux
[06:38] <sysrage_> can somebody please tell me how to install xchat like the xchat that comes with every other damn distro?
[06:38] <Kevin`> thrillin` I am running both os x and linux on that laptop
[06:38] <suricate> Jager-: is it at another HD?
[06:38] <cherubiel> Jager-: and do you see the right part in fdisk -l /dev/hdx ?
[06:38] <Kevin`> hmm I forgot a step actually
[06:38] <Kevin`> resize the mac partition
[06:38] <sysrage_> not this xchat-gnome crap that doesn work for crap
[06:38] <cherubiel> Jager-: x with a,b,c,d ?
[06:38] <thrillin`> so help me please if u guys not busy
[06:38] <Kevin`> (from within os x, easy to do)
[06:38] <noldon_> i just tried xchat-gnome but i think i stick with the usuall xchat
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> sysrage, package manager, search, select, install?
[06:38] <skyfaller-linux> Kevin`: thanks, glad to know it's not too much slower
[06:38] <cherubiel> nothing to beat bitchx guys, imho
[06:38] <Keyseir> What are the terminal commands for changing volume?
[06:38] <sysrage_> bitchx is crap. irssi owns bitchx.. but i want a gui
[06:39] <Firefishe> Kevin`:  Did you say you were using an x86 mac?
[06:39] <Jager-> cherubiel where do i do that?
[06:39] <ahab> sysrage enter "sudo synaptic" in a command line
[06:39] <noldon_> damn i have to sleep shes 6:40 am here
[06:39] <Kevin`> Firefishe ya
[06:39] <cherubiel> Jager-: fire up a terminal, type fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:39] <cherubiel> output the contents in the pastebin
[06:39] <lmosher> How do you define a volume label for a fat32 partition?
[06:39] <suricate> sysrage_: have you tried konversation?
[06:39] <Firefishe> Kevin`: how do you like it?  laptop or desktop?
[06:39] <guest_> I got irssi running, irc client for cmmand line, no BS , it's great
[06:39] <Kevin`> laptop, works great
[06:39] <noldon_> lmosher vfat
[06:39] <Jager-> cherubiel It does nothing
[06:39] <Kevin`> nice piece of hardware
[06:40] <cherubiel> Jager-: what did you do?
[06:40] <Firefishe> Kevin`:  Mac Book Pro?
[06:40] <lmosher> noldon_, Does that change the answer?
[06:40] <Kevin`> macbook
[06:40] <Kevin`> notpro
[06:40] <sysrage_> suricate: i glad you like it, but i not interested in changing my irc client. ive used xchat for years and i happy with it
[06:40] <Jager-> cherubiel I opend terminal and typed  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:40] <DARKGuy> It is, though it takes some time to get used to /window :P - personally, GAIM is the best one for IRC if you don't like X-Chat :P
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> Kevin`, how much was that?
[06:40] <noldon_> lmosher ?
[06:40] <Kevin`> around 1000, ebay
[06:40] <cherubiel> Jager-: and no output?
[06:40] <Dheeraj_k> @bill57785 : type this command in  terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <Jager-> cherubiel no out put
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> Nice. ^_^
[06:40] <lmosher> noldon_, calling it vfat vs fat32, does that change the answer to the question?
[06:40] <cherubiel> Jager-: wierd, tat explains why root (hd0,0) doesn't work
[06:41] <cherubiel> Jager-: just type mount and pastebin it
[06:41] <ahab> you following sysrage?
[06:41] <noldon_> no idea
[06:41] <Kevin`> cherubiel but why dows linux boot
[06:41] <Dheeraj_k> and post the content in paste bin
[06:41] <Kevin`> look at his menu.lst
[06:41] <noldon_> im to tired to think right know
[06:41] <Firefishe> Kevin`:  Is the "kubuntu-desktop" package required to be able to start kde in ubuntu?  I've got the ubuntu/gnome CD I installed from.
[06:41] <cherubiel> Kevin`: lets see where he's mounted his root :)
[06:41] <Jager-> !paste
[06:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:41] <Kevin`> cherubiel I guess hdb2
[06:41] <suricate> sysrage_: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:41] <suricate> enable universe repos
[06:42] <Jager-> Guess how Jager screwed up his linux installation! :D
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> Firefishe, to ru nKDE, you can just...sudo apt-get install KDE* and that's KDE, and all the libs and progs that are available for it.  Literally...all. ;p
[06:42] <Jager-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34065/
[06:42] <suricate> sysrage_: after you do that, sudo apt-get update
[06:42] <suricate> apt-get install xchat
[06:42] <sysrage_> suricate: thank you
[06:42] <guest_> I have a dell laptop, PIII 750MHz, 384MB of RAM, should I try xubuntu on it?
[06:42] <Kevin`> guest_ that is up to you
[06:43] <Madpilot> guest_, sure.
[06:43] <Jager-> Jager-
[06:43] <Jager-> :/
[06:43] <Firefishe> Music_Shuffle:  Well, I have just about everything now, but I'm having trouble at startup.  Some problem with file permissions in my home directory.
[06:43] <guest_> I'm thinking of setting it up and giving it to my mom
[06:43] <guest_> I'll have to make sure it'll be a decent laptop
[06:43] <ahab> sysrage hit settings>repositories
[06:43] <ahab> and then add all the repos in the multivrtdr/universe within the "add" tab
[06:43] <Music_Shuffle> No idea then, after I did the KDE* one, it worked fine for me, sorry. =/
[06:43] <ahab> apply and ok that
[06:43] <ahab> give it time to refresh, search for xchat in synaptic and install
[06:43] <guest_> I heard good things about xubuntu, Just gotta try it out
[06:43] <cherubiel> Jager-: lets see fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[06:43] <ahab> or suricate could show you i guess
[06:44] <gradin> hey all i have a quick questions...
[06:44] <Jager-> cherubiel: Cannot open /dev/hdb
[06:44] <Firefishe> Music_Shuffle:  well, I'll try it, it can't hurt.    Oh, is kubuntu availablel with a DVD maxi release?
[06:44] <Dheeraj_k> @bill57785: delete every thing from sources.list and enter this in it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34067/
[06:44] <Kevin`> Jager- wtf is up with your computer
[06:44] <Jager-> You've got me
[06:44] <Dheeraj_k> and than run sudo apt-get update
[06:44] <gradin> say i'm on my local machine, is there a way to see how many remote SSL connections there are currently open?
[06:44] <Kevin`> nothing seems to work, yet it's running somehow
[06:44] <Jager-> xD
[06:44] <Music_Shuffle> Kubuntu's always been buggier for me, I prefer to just install Ubuntu and then add in the other window managers manually, Gnome always works. ;)
[06:44] <Kevin`> how does it even boot if grub can't find the hard drive
[06:45] <Jager-> -_-
[06:45] <cherubiel> Jager-: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[06:45] <Jager-> Ive stumped everyone with my retarded computer :'(
[06:45] <bill57785> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34068/
[06:45] <cherubiel> Jager-: need root perms
[06:45] <bill57785> oh, ok
[06:45] <guest_> cherubiel what does that do
[06:45] <cherubiel> !sudo
[06:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:45] <Firefishe> Music_Shuffle:  Ever notice that no matter what distro is comes from, either gnome or kde works better than the other, although most of the other stand-alone window managers do well anyway.
[06:45] <Jager-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34069/
[06:45] <guest_> !fdisk
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <Firefishe> !dvd
[06:46] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:46] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah ;D
[06:46] <Kevin`> cherubiel fyi, the first thing I tried to have him do was rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[06:46] <zmm> I'm trying to run ant after going in a folder which contains build.xml but I'm getting the error "bash: ant: command not found" how can i get ant work
[06:46] <zmm> "