[00:00] <moseti> bye
[00:00] <innovate2000> secret901: do it first from your pakage mgr - search for "linux-image" - you can safely "request removal" for all pkgs up to the current version and the previous version (always safe to keep prev version). After applying changes - in terminal run "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> unr3a1:  Hmm..  sounds like some messed up settings.. I can always controll them via the keyboard infull screen..  I think theres a setting to show the controlls in fullscreen also in the window
[00:00] <secret901> innovate2000: I can't do that because it can't remove that package.
[00:00] <innovate2000> that usually fixes me right up
[00:01] <ralmar> Dr_Willis, how? with firefox under wine?
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> unr3a1:  theres several check box's in the vlc inteface settings
[00:01] <secret901> innovate2000: that package doesn't exist in my system.
[00:01] <unr3a1> alright
[00:01] <unr3a1> thanks for the info
[00:01] <unr3a1> but I have to go
[00:01] <unr3a1> later
[00:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Zeph I missed the question ?
[00:01] <innovate2000>  secret901 - ok then - well another issue altogether
[00:01] <innovate2000> did you/someone remove it manually?
[00:02] <d0t> skyl, please ssh if you can on port 443 let's see if it's open
[00:02] <d0t> if not i give up..
[00:02] <secret901> innovate2000: not that I'm aware of.  this problem came up after I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04
[00:02] <affdklfsjsdf> hi
[00:02] <raylu> d0t: 443 is traditionally the https port
[00:02] <gunnarahlberg> can cat trap all keyboard input so I understand where my < is doing wrong? it sends a pause instead of the < key
[00:03] <linny> d0t:ive heard webmin can be helpful for fixing broken ssh configs with a gui
[00:03] <raylu> gunnarahlberg: no, but xev can
[00:03] <raylu> !webmin | linny
[00:03] <skyl> d0t I don't know your ip or anything
[00:03] <d0t> raylu, yeah i know but my university didn't disable this port and that's how i can connect to my computer with VNC
[00:03] <innovate2000> In that case (use at your own risk) I usually install the pkg it is crying for - and then use the pkg mgr to remove it. With linux-image(s) - this can be tricky as if the pkg is too old or newer than your current you will likely be unlucky
[00:03] <secret901> innovate2000: I tried that, but I can't find a deb of it online.
[00:03] <henux> VCoolio1: okay thanks, i managed to change the icon using custom icon theme
[00:03] <B3rz3rk3r> dot is from South Africa
[00:04] <skyl> d0t but that might yield unexpected behavior as that is the ssl http port usually
[00:04] <Ampelbein> d0t: then you should tell sshd to listen to port 443, not 22.
[00:04] <VCoolio1> henux: what is the right icon?
[00:04] <gunnarahlberg> raylu thats it, thanks
[00:04] <henux> VCoolio1: start-here
[00:04] <skyl> I like to choose a different port altogether, let me see if I can get you a resource
[00:04] <henux> obviously :)
[00:04] <goose> hey guys... I kinda did something bad
[00:04] <d0t> Ampelbein, i just did i edited sshd_config and restarted the service
[00:04] <B3rz3rk3r> d0t, UCT?
[00:04] <VCoolio1> henux: right, who would've guessed
[00:05] <d0t> B3rz3rk3r, UJ :)
[00:05] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: the cops are on the way
[00:05] <Ampelbein> d0t: what does netstat -l look like now?
[00:05] <henux> yeah lol
[00:05] <innovate2000> can you try the "sudo apt-get autoremove" anyway? it is likely that dkms (if it is installed - I think newer Ubuntu's install it by default (can someone confirm?)) was not told that it is safe to unload pkgs/pkg dependecies
[00:05] <goose> goose@goose-desktop:/media/disk/Music$ rm -rf *
[00:05] <goose> I thought I was in a different dir
[00:05] <B3rz3rk3r> d0t, nice
[00:05] <goose> that was 2 days and numerous reboots ago
[00:05] <goose> how screwed am I?
[00:05] <goose> 40 GiB of data
[00:05] <FloodBot2> goose: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: its gone
[00:05]  * goose cries
[00:05] <erUSUL> goose: photorec ?
[00:06] <secret901> innovate2000: I did that, that's how I know what the problem was
[00:06] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: you should be more careful and always keep a backup otherwise you are asking for it
[00:06] <d0t> Ampelbein,  tcp        0      0 *:https                 *:*                     LISTEN
[00:06] <d0t> B3rz3rk3r, are you from SA ?
[00:06] <innovate2000> secret901: if it is a linux image - I'm not sure I'd go the deb route - I'd go the apt-get route
[00:06] <eseven73> photorec is good (dont let the name photo fool you, it does a lot more than pics)
[00:06] <Ampelbein> d0t: that looks ok.
[00:06] <raylu> innovate2000: you can confirm yourself with "aptitude why dkms"
[00:06] <goose> Paddy_EIRE, that WAS my backup
[00:06] <B3rz3rk3r> d0t, nope, lived in CT for 10 years tho
[00:06] <secret901> innovate2000: either way, I can't find it to install
[00:06] <goose> erUSUL, photorec?
[00:06] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: then whats the problem just make a backup of the original again
[00:07] <erUSUL> goose: a file recovery tool... dunno if its p to the task of 40 giB but anyway
[00:07]  * eseven73 cries with goose, I know the feeling, I once used Clonezilla on my external 300 gig hd, never again.
[00:07] <raylu> secret901: i just joined the channel; could you give the question again?
[00:07] <erUSUL> goose: its homepage has a good howto
[00:07] <Buttons840> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az4dQxhtEKs - Anyone have a suggestion to help me improve my login time, which was just a few seconds last time I remember, and is now about 40 seconds?
[00:07] <goose> Paddy_EIRE, original got reformatted, which is why I had backup plugged in. I had 2 backups, one was mine, one was a buddy's from a laptop I was fixing for him. thought I was on his backup, not mine ;.;
[00:08] <lindenle> !amarok
[00:08] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: then you did not have a backup
[00:08] <innovate2000> secret901: did you do a "sudo apt-get update" before trying "sudo apt-get install linux-image-XXXX" (whatever version you are trying to install)
[00:08] <d0t> skyl, Ampelbein, my ip to ssh <IP_ADDRESS> please..
[00:08] <innovate2000> ?
[00:08] <Chr|s> !info amarok
[00:08] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: a backup is a backup
[00:08] <B3rz3rk3r> ubottu u let us down
[00:08] <eseven73> Buttons840, I don't think youtube links are welcomed here
[00:08] <B3rz3rk3r> lol
[00:08] <skyl> d0t http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/11/28/ubuntu-intrepid-setup-page-1 that is kind of some of the things I do when setting up a machine.  it is a bit different as they are assuming a slicehost install ... I will try though
[00:08] <lindenle> Chr|s: Hi can you help me get amarok to see my mp3 again
[00:08] <d0t> B3rz3rk3r, where did you move to ?
[00:08] <goose> Paddy_EIRE, desktop was original, backup was backup. desktop was reformatted, backup was supposed to go on desktop, backup goes poof, I cry myself to sleep
[00:08] <B3rz3rk3r> d0t, California
[00:08] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: nasty
[00:09] <goose> oh wait! amarok has a "back up music from ipod" feature!
[00:09] <d0t> B3rz3rk3r,  the good life :)
[00:09] <mneptok> !ot | d0t
[00:09]  * goose cuddles Steve Jobs
[00:09] <B3rz3rk3r> d0t, lol. yeah man
[00:09] <skyl> d0t nope, I think that it is a firewall issue
[00:09] <goose> turns out I have a second backup, then, Paddy_EIRE :)
[00:09] <B3rz3rk3r> d0t, have u forwarded your ports properly?
[00:09] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: ah timemachine :)
[00:09] <B3rz3rk3r> d0t,  or are u on a rez network?
[00:10] <Chr|s> lindenle, sorry I can't help you right now, stick around. look in your preferences
[00:10] <Chr|s> also see !mp3
[00:10] <d0t> B3rz3rk3r, no at home..
[00:10] <Paddy_EIRE> goose: oh I know what you mean now.. nice one
[00:10] <skyl> d0t also, you might need to restart the sshd server?  if you have made changes to config and have not..
[00:11] <Ampelbein> d0t: can you pastebin iptables -L again?
[00:11] <d0t> skyl, yeas i forwarded fine.. (with windows VNC it works good..)
[00:11] <progre55> Bob_Dole, oh, thanks man :) sorry, I was afk, and just noticed ur messages :) yeah, I renamed them all to .mpg and now linux recognizes them :) but k3b still says it supports only MPEG1 OR MPEG2... should I rename them into .mpeg2? :)
[00:11] <d0t> Ampelbein, sure one moment..
[00:11] <lindenle> Can anyone help me get amarok to see my music again
[00:11] <skyl> d0t by all means log into your router and forward the ports though ... hmmm...
[00:11] <secret901> innovate2000: I did try sudo apt-get update
[00:11] <pH> hey guys
[00:12] <pH> i need some help with AWK
[00:12] <secret901> innovate2000: I can't update or do anything until it thinks that that package is removed
[00:12] <B3rz3rk3r> ok, iv used 3 batteries on my laptop now.. time to go and recharge!
[00:12] <B3rz3rk3r> ttyl
[00:12] <d0t> Ampelbein, http://pastebin.com/d30e83a7a
[00:12] <Ampelbein> !ask | pH
[00:13] <pH> how can I jump a line before the result of <screen_name> (i mean, in all of the results that I'll get)? My code: awk -F'>' '/<(screen_name|text)>/ { print $2 }' friends_timeline.xml | cut -d'<' -f1
[00:13] <d0t> skyl i swear to god i did :)
[00:13] <pH> ok, thanks, ubottu :)
[00:13] <d0t> skyl, give me a port to forward and i will even print screen for you :P
[00:13] <d0t> i'm at the point i'll do anything for it to work
[00:14] <d0t> if you tell me do format c: and it'll work i will do it :D
[00:14] <zhurai> ^ lol
[00:14] <mandragora22> hi everyone
[00:14] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i need help speeding up my ati 200m card.
[00:14] <pH> any idea?
[00:14] <mandragora22> can anyone help me, i seem to lose the windows boot option from the GRUB
[00:14] <skyl> d0t, flush your iptables so that iptables -L gives you three lines that all say accept... use default ssh config (if you can get back there) forward port 22... done ..
[00:15] <Paddy_EIRE> binMonkey: open a terminal and type 'man radeontool'
[00:15] <raylu> pH: sounds like a job for an actual script
[00:15] <agor> hey, im having a problem with rubygems, I have tried installing rubygems, rubygems1.8 and rubygems1.9 - but when I type 'gem' in the terminal it just tells me that I can get 'gem' from rubygems1.8 or rubygems1.9... Does anyone know how I can solve this?
[00:15] <Ampelbein> d0t: lines 117 and 118 of your paste should mention the https port, ufw still only accepts ssh-input.
[00:15] <progre55> Bob_Dole, when I try to play one of the files with mplayer, it says "MPEG-PS file format detected." and "VIDEO:  MPEG1  352x288  (aspect 8)  25.000 fps  1150.0 kbps (143.8 kbyte/s)"
[00:15] <ugliefrog> I wasnt connected to the internet when i upgraded ubuntu on my laptop......now i cant get the wireless usb to work....what do i do
[00:15] <pH> raylo: Ok, can you help me with this?
[00:15] <progre55> Bob_Dole, changed the extention to .MPEG1, but still no luck with k3b (
[00:15] <BlackFate> pH: tput might help you " tput hpa 0 el1 " something like that... im not very familiar with this command
[00:15] <raylu> pH: maybe; what is it you're trying to do?
[00:15] <Paddy_EIRE> binMonkey: also try 'man radeon'
[00:16] <skyl> d0t then you can go back and learn iptables if you want some custom blockage and use that article to change your ssh port to something else later too
[00:16] <binMonkey> Paddy_EIRE: thanks.
[00:16] <pH> raylu: Actually, i'm parsing two XML itens using awk :P
[00:16] <Paddy_EIRE> binMonkey: sure
[00:16] <Ampelbein> pH: can you give a few lines of the XML?
[00:16] <pH> yeah :)
[00:16] <Ampelbein> pH: please use pastebin
[00:16] <Ampelbein> ;-)
[00:16] <pH> ;)
[00:16] <xirrin> skyl: is there any way to return iptables back to their defaul settings?
[00:17] <Ampelbein> xirrin: iptables -F clears all chains
[00:17] <secret901> innovate2000: I need to make it think that the package is no longer there.
[00:17] <Cyclist2> Hello, there! I need some pointers to get a simple [or so it seems to me!] cron job up and running; is this the right channel? I am on Ubuntu 9.04
[00:17] <xirrin> ampelbein: Thanks :)
[00:18] <pH> Ampelbein: http://pastebin.com/m2a5a4fb6
[00:18] <Ampelbein> !cron | Cyclist2
[00:18] <FloridaGuy> any idea whats wront here.....checking for X... no configure: error: can't compile without X
[00:18] <pH> and as output, usign this: awk -F'>' '/<(screen_name|text)>/ { print $2 }' friends_timeline.xml | cut -d'<' -f1
[00:18] <CoJaBo-Aztec> What do I do to get VLC RC1 on Kubuntu?
[00:18] <pH> im getting this:
[00:18] <pH> blogdoiphone
[00:18] <pH> Promo code: ache a palavra e ganhe o aplicativo brasileiro Caça-Palavras http://bit.ly/bhaL2
[00:18] <xirrin> Ok, interesting question. I've downloaded and installed through Synaptec the tintin++ and the Gnome-MUD applications but I have no idea how to start either. What am I missing that is so obvious? :-/
[00:18] <pH> I want to put an space BEFORE "blogdoiphone", for exemple
[00:19] <ugliefrog> I wasnt connected to the internet when i upgraded ubuntu on my laptop......now i cant get the wireless usb to work....what do i do
[00:19] <kkdkjff> ugliefrog: downgrade ;)
[00:19] <d0t> skyl, http://pastebin.com/m6f5bdf00 <-- flushed tables.
[00:20] <pH> Ampelbein: Any idea?
[00:21] <Ampelbein> pH: so you want it to look like? ' blodoipphone Promo code: ....'?
[00:21] <pH> like this:
[00:21] <pH>
[00:21] <pH> blogdoiphone
[00:21] <pH> Promocode: ...
[00:21] <FloodBot2> pH: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:21] <pH> with a line before blogdoiphone
[00:21] <ugliefrog> kkdkjff: Thats the only way to fix it
[00:21] <pH> Oh, ok, sorry
[00:21] <Ampelbein> pH: ok, second please
[00:21] <pH> lol, I was answering a bot :P
[00:22] <d0t> Ampelbein, http://pastebin.com/m6f5bdf00 is that what supposed look like after you flush the tables ?!
[00:22] <mneptok> pH: that's not a space, it's a line break
[00:22] <d0t> skyl, i see no accept there..
[00:22] <pH> yeah
[00:22] <pH> a line break
[00:22] <pH> Im not american
[00:22] <pH> so, my english sucks
[00:22] <mneptok> pH: \n
[00:23] <pH> im brazillian
[00:23] <raylu> !br | pH
[00:23] <raylu> pH: also, could you give us the entire xml file?
[00:23] <d0t> lol
[00:23] <pH> raylu: Yeah
[00:23] <raylu> pH: also, your english is good enough that i didn't guess you weren't a native-english speaker
[00:23] <d0t> !il | d0t
[00:23] <pH> hahaha, :)
[00:24] <pH> http://pastie.org/489485
[00:24] <pH> (Entire XML)
[00:25] <raylu> pH: so what was it that you wanted to do again?
[00:25] <pH> a line break before the "blogdoiphone" stuff
[00:25] <pH> this is the code that i have
[00:25] <pH> awk -F'>' '/<(screen_name|text)>/ { print $2 }' friends_timeline.xml | cut -d'<' -f1
[00:25] <raylu> pH: do you want to output a modified xml file or just extract it?
[00:25] <assem> hey, ive just noticed that my pocketpc's SD card isn't being recognized anymore when i plug it in (after upgrading to 9.04).  instead, it's trying to setup my phone as another ethernet device.  what's up?
[00:26] <pH> I want something like this: awk -F'>' '/<("\n"|screen_name|text)>/ { print $2 }' friends_timeline.xml | cut -d'<' -f1
[00:26] <pH> working :)
[00:26] <xirrin> Ok, interesting question. I've downloaded and installed through Synaptec the tintin++ and the Gnome-MUD applications but I have no idea how to start either. What am I missing that is so obvious? :-/
[00:27] <pH> but not searching for a \n, I want to insert a \n before the screen_name results
[00:27] <pH> did you get it?
[00:27] <dronten> hej kn nån hjälpa mig med ubuntu.. eller firefox.. har nyss instalerat ubuntu 9.04 och har problem med tex flash spel och tubeklipp..
[00:27] <d0t> ok i officially give up,
[00:27] <Ampelbein> d0t: the firewall looks ok now, but still no luck connecting to you..
[00:27] <raylu> pH: no. i have no familiarity with awk, but i was planning on writing a script to do whatever it was you wanted
[00:28] <raylu> pH: since parsing xml is generally best done by actually parsing the xml
[00:28] <pH> yeah, i know
[00:28] <raylu> !se | dronten
[00:28] <dale> Hey, watching an avi in vlc, and its been recorded terribly quietly, is there any way to amplify the sound?
[00:28] <pH> but there's any way to parse the XML just using terminal (because I just need to parse some lines of it)
[00:29] <raylu> pH: certainly, but i'm not familiar enough with awk and related tools to do it
[00:29] <pH> :(
[00:29] <pH> anyone?
[00:29] <raylu> pH: if you just describe what you want, though, i can do it for you
[00:29] <binrapt> Hmm network-admin shows no WLAN devices, yet wlan0 shows up in iwconfig - why is this?
[00:29] <tzanger> good evening; I'm familliar with the various package cache utils for debian, but I'm wondering if it is possible to a) use dpkg to get a list of package dependencies for a gien package, and b) easily grab these packages off my system or at worst, off the internet again.  I have them on the system, but I'd like to throw them on a USB key for a specific application
[00:29] <mmanning> Hello, does anyone know how to keep a package from getting updated?
[00:29] <pH> ok, lemme translate it from portuguese to english :)
[00:29] <jrib> pH: please avoid doing "anyone?", just repeat your question after some time
[00:29] <pH> haha, ok :)
[00:29] <pH> (thats a cool room)
[00:30] <jezi22> what is the use of dpkg? de package?
[00:30] <tzanger> mmanning: echo somepackage_name hold | dpkg --set-selections
[00:30] <jrib> jezi22: installs debs...
[00:30] <tzanger> mmanning: I do that for the bleeding edge intel video drivers I have working :-)
[00:30] <mmanning> tzanger: thank you
[00:30] <jezi22> ohh..
[00:30] <mrwes> I currently have a 10gb / partition, what is the recommended 'safe' method to increase that to 15gb -- shrinking /home by ~5gb
[00:31] <mmanning> tzanger: yes, i had to custom build freeradius to support tls
[00:31] <d0t> Ampelbein, yeah i know.. *sigh* nevermind thank you i really appreciate it
[00:31] <BlackFate> jezi22: dpkg is the tool to install and handle debs. . apt get is just a tool to get packages from the insternet with additional options to remove em
[00:31] <sagaci> tzanger: aptoncd
[00:31]  * mrwes is stuffed -- Veal Picatta
[00:31] <BlackFate> jezi22: apt-get uses dpkg
[00:31] <raylu> tzanger: dpkg -I file.deb will probably show dependencies
[00:31] <tzanger> sagaci: anything *lighter* ? that's a lot of GUI deps
[00:32] <tzanger> raylu: hmm okay that needs to work on the actual .deb file, I guess I need to do this through apt
[00:32] <raylu> tzanger: oh. aptitude show packagename
[00:32] <pH> what I need is the following: im using awk -F'>' '/<(screen_name|text)>/ { print $2: }' friends_timeline.xml | cut -d'<' -f1, to search in a XML two strings (<screen_name> and <text>), remove the <> and </> and print that screens. But the problem, is that there's many lines with <screen_name> and <text>, so, I just need to break a line before it prints the text that is inside the <screen_name> XML stuff, in order to organize the printed strings from my XML
[00:32] <assem> trying to access my SD card on my pocketpc when i plug in (through USB) to desktop.  this used to be found as mass storage device in 8.10, but now it doesn't appear.  what can i do?
[00:33] <raylu> tzanger: the last time i had that problem i went to packages.ubuntu.com and downloaded the dependencies. but i agree, it's quite a problem
[00:33] <macd> After install machine will not boot from disk, Error: GRUB Loading stage1.5.  /n GRUB loading, please wait...    Ideas?
[00:33] <tzanger> raylu: yeah apt-cache show | grep Depends is a good start
[00:33] <pH> raylu: its clearly now?
[00:34] <tzanger> raylu: dpkg -s pkgname seems to do the same as apt-cache
[00:34] <JoshAshby> ok, so i did an upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 from 8.10, right? and now my sound server doesn't work, amarok can't play and i don
[00:35] <JoshAshby> 'ti don't have sound in firefox, any thoughts?
[00:35] <JoshAshby> sorry my finger hit the enter key before i was done
[00:36] <mrwes> I currently have a 10gb / partition, what is the recommended 'safe' method to increase that to 15gb -- shrinking /home by ~5gb
[00:36] <RedSocrates> Typing ALT+SysRq+K should kill my X server, but it does not function in Ubuntu (Jaunty).  Does anyone know how to get this functionality?
[00:36] <raylu> pH: i think so, one sec
[00:36] <pH> ok, :)
[00:37] <mrwes> !dontzap | RedSocrates
[00:37] <RedSocrates> mrwes: But the problem is that "the combination Alt+SysRq+K" does not work.
[00:38] <Ampelbein> pH: i'm near it. awk -F'>' '/<(screen_name)>/ { print $2 } /<(text)>/ { print "\n"$2 }' friends_timeline.xml | cut -d'<' -f1
[00:39] <Kruger> what does it mean if I clicked on "Normal" Visual Effects option, and it said "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[00:39] <pH> its working, Ampelbein?
[00:39] <Ampelbein> pH: it pairs text and screen_name and adds line break
[00:40] <Ampelbein> pH: you could check if that's the desired output
[00:40] <pH> im checking
[00:41] <Ampelbein> Kruger: that means you don't have a 3d-enabled graphics driver installed and running.
[00:41] <pH> ZOMG
[00:41] <pH> THIS IS WHAT I NEED
[00:41] <pH> :D :D
[00:41] <FloodBot2> pH: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <pH> Thanks, Ampelbein!
[00:42] <Ampelbein> pH: and please don't shout, i'm not hearing impaired ;-)
[00:42] <pH> hehehe
[00:42] <pH> ok
[00:42] <Ampelbein> pH: glad that's working now
[00:42] <pH> I was trying to do this since 17th
[00:42] <pH> :D
[00:42] <Ampelbein> pH: i could not understand what you wanted to achieve in the first place, but after you explaining it some times i got it ;-)
[00:43] <pH> haha, :)
[00:43] <Kruger> what do I do if my terminal window is frozen and won't let me type anything in it?
[00:43] <RedSocrates> Does anyone know how to get Alt+SysRq+K to function in Jaunty?  It should kill the X server, but it doesn't.
[00:43] <Kruger> I typed "compiz" and it blew up
[00:43] <binrapt> Should USB WLAN devices show up in the Ubuntu Network Admin when you boot live?
[00:44] <Ampelbein> Kruger: yeah, that happens if you try running another window manager and don't implement a fallback if the new one doesn't start up correctly.
[00:44] <Kruger> my terminal window is forzen and all white and stuck to the upper left hand corner of my screen
[00:44] <Kruger> ampelbein do I need to "kill" it?
[00:44] <hrdo> hi people... any python scripters who develop their own CLI tools here?
[00:45] <Ampelbein> Kruger: no, you need to restart a window manager. why did you want to run compiz from the terminal anyway?
[00:45] <Kruger> ampelbein some one on a forum said to type it in
[00:45] <Kruger> Ampelbein, whats the way to implement the fall back/
[00:45] <boss_mc> Kruger, start another terminal and run metacity --replace
[00:46] <Kruger> it doesn't let me type anything when I start a new terminal window
[00:46] <boss_mc> Kruger: and when you test, use compiz --replace
[00:46] <Ampelbein> Kruger: <ctrl>-<alt>-<F1>, login to console, 'metacity --display=:0 --replace'
[00:46] <Kruger> boss_mc: k and what does --replace mean exactly
[00:47] <boss_mc> Kruger: it tells the new window manager to close down the old window manager before it loads
[00:47] <boss_mc> Kruger: compiz should fall back to metacity if it fails to load
[00:48] <boss_mc> Kruger: but in your case it seems to have failed and just killed your wm
[00:48] <Kruger> hmm
[00:48] <Kruger> I just did that
[00:48] <Kruger> now how do I get out of this ctrl alt f1 screen
[00:48] <nigtv> Hey, stupid question, supposing I have a m4v file, and I want to put it onto a dvd-r that can be read in a DVD player (which can read dvd-r's), I would have to convert it to another format before putting it into an iso, right?
[00:48] <boss_mc> Kruger: ctrl+alt+f7
[00:49] <Kruger> thank you, that fixed it ambelbien
[00:49] <boss_mc> Ampelbein: nice trick, I've had that problem before... that's a nice solution
[00:49] <nigtv> I'm having trouble with it, I was thinking that any video had to me either mjpeg (or something like that, I forget) or mpeg2 in order to play in a dvd player
[00:50] <nigtv> mjpeg, or something like that, being jpeg with motion
[00:50] <logankoester> nigtv: Well, m4v is just a container. You need to convert it to MPEG-II and stuff
[00:50] <geirha> nigtv: devede converts "any" format into a dvd iso
[00:50] <boss_mc> geirha: strong claim
[00:50] <logankoester> I don't know what people recommend for that here but I believe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MEncoder can do the job
[00:50] <geirha> boss_mc: I put any in quotes
[00:50] <nigtv> logankoester: so supposing I got it converted to an mpeg-II (which I do), I then have to make just an iso, or a "dvd-iso"?
[00:51] <boss_mc> geirha: I got that... a video editor that converts any (no quotes) movie to dvd would be totally ace
[00:51] <nigtv> ive burned alot of dvds, just never had to play them on a dvd player heh, theyre great for data storage though
[00:51] <nigtv> geirha: im checkin in out
[00:51] <logankoester> nigtv: I honestly don't think I've ever encoded a video dvd on linux, sorry
[00:52] <logankoester> I don't own a dvd player or anything
[00:52] <william> how do you get ubuntu running on xbox 360?
[00:52] <nigtv> see there are some programs for it, but theyre clunky and only have GUI's
[00:52] <nigtv> such as mandvd, which is atrocious (no idea how to spell)
[00:53] <nigtv> geirha: wow devede looks small, is it a cli?
[00:53] <Kruger> why are there some parameters that look like -w or -l and others that are --replace
[00:53] <Kruger> - or two --'s
[00:53] <dimedo> hi, any ideas why video playback is flawed after updating to jaunty? in totem sound and video is going out of sync, in mplayer and vlc both are stuttering. it's a x86_64 (amd64) system, a lenovo x301 with an intel gma x4500hd gpu
[00:53] <boss_mc> geirha: my music player plays any audio format...
[00:53] <geirha> nigtv: it's a gui frontend for mencoder and dvdauthor basicly
[00:53] <dimedo> also, remote desktop viewer at first gives me a picture, but doesn't update anymore afterwards. the input is received in the target system but there seems to be no response
[00:53] <nigtv> oh
[00:54] <boss_mc> Kruger: one - for single letter arguments, -- for words (although that's not universally true)
[00:54] <boss_mc> Kruger: use man <program> to see it's arguments
[00:54] <nigtv> see I was using ffmpeg before, mainly for just video and sound converting, because i was sort of comfortable with it, but I've never had to make a dvd with it before, and the documentation is like a spaghetti library if you know what I mean
[00:54] <geirha> nigtv: mencoder to convert it into a mpeg2 usable for dvd video, dvdauthor to create the directory structure and vcdimager to make an iso of it
[00:55] <nigtv> geirha: thanks, I'm not big on gui's, ill just use those :D
[00:56] <Kruger> how do I exit this man <program> page
[00:56] <boobsbr> howdy
[00:56] <boss_mc> Kruger: q
[00:56] <nigtv> i like cli's because I can turn the contrast very high, and the brightness low, which makes the screen much easier to read, even at higher reso's, but not with anything graphical, it makes stuff in gui's bleed and halo
[00:56] <geirha> nigtv: No wait, growisofs to make an iso of it. vcdimager just makes *vcd images
[00:56] <nigtv> geirha: is it just an iso format, or a dvd-iso format, do you know?
[00:57] <geirha> nigtv: Ah, well, iso was a bit incorrect. Video DVDs uses the udf filesystem, not iso9660
[00:57] <Alex-89> hello
[00:57] <Alex-89> I am new
[00:58] <Alex-89> Can I ask a question?
[00:58] <boss_mc> Alex-89: this is a support channel, questions are welcome here
[00:58] <Alex-89> Thank you
[00:58] <boss_mc> !ask
[00:58] <boss_mc> :-)
[00:58] <Alex-89> I just installed ubuntu for the first time
[00:58] <boobsbr> howdy, how do I upgrade the NetBeans package from version 6.5-0ubuntu2 (which is stable and is in the repo) to the 6.5-0ubuntu3 (which is still under development but fixes a bug I'm experiencing right now)?
[00:58] <sebsebseb> Alex-89: ok good
[00:58] <Alex-89> does it always boot from the CD?
[00:58] <sebsebseb> Alex-89: how's it going?  what would you like to do with it?
[00:59] <Alex-89> or how do i get it to boot up regular
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Alex-89: you install to your hard disk, and then take the CD out
[00:59] <bomyeah> I am getting a random ^[OH tossed in when im typing on my vps using freenx, any ideas?
[00:59] <boss_mc> Alex-89: have you run the Install program off the desktop?
[00:59] <Alex-89> no
[00:59] <Alex-89> I mean
[00:59] <Alex-89> sorry
[00:59] <gigasoft> is ubuntu any good?!
[00:59] <adriyel> I might regret this, but
[00:59] <bomyeah> this is extremely annoying as I think it is a home ctrl code
[00:59] <Alex-89> when I put the CD in I chose the install option
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Alex-89: nothing to be sorry about, we help newbies :)
[00:59] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: yes
[00:59] <adriyel> if I have two interfaces up, what decides where my internet comes from?
[00:59] <Alex-89> its a fresh install
[00:59] <nownot> how do i see all users on the system?
[01:00] <Alex-89> I even opened firefox
[01:00] <nownot> like all users who have accounts
[01:00] <Alex-89> played around
[01:00] <Alex-89> ect
[01:00] <ajhtiredwolf> Using twinview with two monitors can you tell an appliction to open on a specific monitor? DEVICE:=# doesn't work with twinview
[01:00] <logankoester> gigasoft: naturally we're all here because we think so :)
[01:00] <Alex-89> I turned off the cpu, took the cd out
[01:00] <sebsebseb> Alex-89: you ran the installer or not?  your running it without the CD in?
[01:00] <boss_mc> Alex-89: Ok, that should have given you a pretty desktop, with a Install program on it
[01:00] <adriyel> jesus.
[01:00] <Alex-89> when I turned it back on it told me to reboot
 ok
[01:00] <Alex-89> over and over
[01:00] <adriyel> how are you supposed to get anything done in this channel?
[01:00] <Ampelbein> adriyel: the routes decide where packets go.
[01:00] <boss_mc> Alex-89: that's the program that installs ubuntu to your HD
[01:00] <gigasoft> sebsebseb: is it better then the wista?
[01:00] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: so your here finding out about Ubuntu?
[01:01] <gigasoft> aha
[01:01] <adriyel> Ampelbein: what's the default routes table in ubuntu?
[01:01] <gigasoft> :)\
[01:01] <Ampelbein> adriyel: use command 'route' to list current set routes
[01:01] <geirha> nigtv: Mencoder needs a lot of arguments. It provides a guide though: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-vcd-dvd.html
[01:01] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: heh only problem with doing that and the support channel, is your going to see people having issues with something
[01:01] <adriyel> Ampelbein: can they be hot-swapped without downing an interface?
[01:01] <Kruger> Is there a way to detect what driver I need for my gcard and have ubuntu download and install it? or should I just lspci it and download it manually?
[01:01] <boss_mc> Alex-89: That will run a 9 page wizard where you pick the partition to install to, keyboard layout, timezone, language etc
[01:01] <ryanprior> My mouse sucks and I'd like to get a nice one, but I really love the clicky feel of cheap mice that is usually replaced by a more subdued tactile feedback on more expensive mice. Can anyone suggest a high-quality mouse that also has satisfying tactical feedback? Thanks.
[01:01] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: is it better than Vista usually yes, but it depends  on the user and what programs they want to run, and to some extent the user
[01:01] <adriyel> Ampelbein: thank you.
[01:02] <Ampelbein> adriyel: yeah, through network-manager
[01:02] <Tangatutanga> Hello
[01:02] <gigasoft> sebsebseb: is it better than wista, or win 7
[01:02] <adriyel> Ampelbein: you mean the GUI manager?
[01:02] <pembrokepuppy> hi
[01:02] <Ampelbein> adriyel: right. or by the route command on the terminal itself.
[01:02] <pik}> im running a gentoo installation with virtualbox on ubuntu and just activated ssh so i can continue the install from the host but i cant get the host machine to reach the gentoo installation. can someone please help me?
[01:02] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: some programs are only made for Windows
[01:02] <pembrokepuppy> I just installed netbook remix on an acer aspire one
[01:02] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: however with enough RAM and if it's not say a 3D game, you can run Windows inside Ubuntu in what's called a virtual machine
[01:03] <gigasoft> sebsebseb:  is it better than this new win, that everybody shouts about
[01:03] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: there is also a program called Wine, which can get quite a few programs running, but  Linux distributions tend to have pretty good alternatives for most acstaul proper computer usage apps anyway
[01:03] <pembrokepuppy> has anyone else had problems with the auto program launch feature?
[01:03] <gigasoft> hm, it sounds complicated
[01:03] <adriyel> Ampelbein: I'd rather use the route command. I'm allergic to GUI tools.
[01:03] <gigasoft> sebsebseb:  hm, it sounds complicated
[01:04] <adriyel> Ampelbein: I don't want to have to configure an ssh-forwarded app just to change routes.
[01:04] <Ampelbein> adriyel: 'man route'
[01:04] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: Windows 7 is ok, but don't fall for it, it's just Vista with some changes here and there.   Vista has been quite the failure for them, hence why Microsoft have told business users not to upgrade to Vista,  and wait for Windows 7 instead
[01:04] <Ampelbein> adriyel: for starters ;-)
[01:04] <pembrokepuppy> i clicked it when I installed netbook remix, and now pidgin and other programs launch each time i start ubuntu
[01:04] <gigasoft> sebsebseb: do you have some useful  links?
[01:04] <pembrokepuppy> but how do I stop it?
[01:04] <Barridus> pembrokepuppy, i had netbook remix on my aspireone too.  i ditched it, i thought regular gnome worked better
[01:05] <Ampelbein> pembrokepuppy: system -> preferences -> autostart applications
[01:05] <Kruger> how come I don't have a Restricted Drivers Manager on my Ubuntu?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: Microsoft also do not realy care about there users properly except for business users, hence why some programs are only in the business/server versions and not the home/consumer versions
[01:05] <Ampelbein> pembrokepuppy: erm. startup applications is the label.
[01:05] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: of Windows
[01:05] <pembrokepuppy> yeah I have unchecked the box for autostart
[01:05] <RxDx> what program should I use to burn an AVI movie to play on a DVD?
[01:05] <pembrokepuppy> but those programs still open each time I restart
[01:05] <gigasoft> sebsebseb:  no of win vs ubuntu
[01:05] <pembrokepuppy> is there a config file I need to delete?
[01:05] <ryanprior> Kruger: Perhaps your machine doesn't need any restricted drivers?
[01:06] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: well unless it was say Vista Ultimate then get business and consumer features.   With Ubuntu  you get treated the same  business or home user.  you have the same programs availalbe
[01:06] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: oh yes plenty of Linux links out there
[01:06] <Ampelbein> pembrokepuppy: there shouldn't be. what box exactly did you uncheck? the one next to the application? if so, try deleting the complete entry.
[01:06] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: and the  Windows 7 and Vista aren't that good articles, plenty of those to
[01:06] <Barridus> gigasoft just try ubuntu via wubi.  no permanent changes made
[01:06] <ryanprior> sebsebseb: The other day I asked you about my new wireless card that lspci didn't list. You suggested that I try putting it in a different PCI slot before sending it back, and that worked. Thanks. :-)
[01:06] <gigasoft> sebsebseb: ok, anyway thanks
[01:07] <gigasoft> sebsebseb: :)
[01:07] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: go to
[01:07] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: well  http://www.linuxtoday.com is a nice site :)   there archive system is not that good though :(    http://www.linux.org is good when they do articles and good archeive system
[01:08] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: and hold on a second and i'll recommend you  my favourite Linux  and Windows and such,  articles writer/author
[01:08] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: get his name spelt right :)
[01:08] <rask> Dobry wieczór
[01:09] <PlainFlavored> wow, xchat is pretty annoying compared to irssi
[01:09] <helper> hello brothers, why i can't install in crontab using root, give me this error: errors in crontab file, can't install.
[01:09] <Kruger> how come I don't have a Restricted Drivers Manager on my Ubuntu?
[01:11] <JarG0n> help... I just plugged in a new USB hard drive, and it's not showing on the desktop.
[01:11] <Scorchin> what's the best WebKit browser in the ubuntu repos?
[01:11] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: right so as I said in pm in the channel since could be useful to  other people.  steven j. vaughan-nichols   http://blogs.computerworld.com/sjvn  http://practical-tech.com/
[01:11] <Bob_Dole> JarG0n, I had something similar on older releases, it wouldn't mount unless I restarted, and would only mount if plugged in during restart.
[01:12] <sebsebseb> gigasoft: I also have another great link for you   http://www.gnu.org then go to the philsophey section and  you can find out what this type of software is really about.  what free software and open source is about
[01:12] <Bob_Dole> And to anyone.. that device now mounts, unmounts, mounts, unmounts, repeat.
[01:12] <JarG0n> Bob_Dole> Cool, thanks.  Are you the same Bob Dole that played q2wf back in the day?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> !freedom | gigasoft
[01:12] <Bob_Dole> q2wf? No. I'm the Bob Dole that plays Tremulous
[01:12] <Zelfje> JarG0n: hope you didnt buy the latest x-craft 360 from cooler master
[01:12] <Kruger> pandora is the greatest program/website ever
[01:13] <JarG0n> Zelfje> nope
[01:13] <Zelfje> good
[01:13] <helper> hello using crontab if i want work at 12 am ist' like : * 24 * * * but it say 24 bad hour then! ?
[01:13] <Arcitens> Hi, I'm having a problem with my main menu/alacarte. The main menu disappeared and system->preferences->main menu doesn't open anything. I entered alacarte in a terminal and came back with an error. Did some browsing on forums and help blogs and tried to reinstall alacarte and python2.5 and it didn't fix anything. Any help would be appreciated. I can send the error from entering alacarte in a terminal upon request.
[01:13] <eross> trying to install bf2 via wine, have a feeling it's not a wine problem. says 'Insert BF2 Install disk and try again.'
[01:13] <eross> the cd is mounted, i can open it up and browse it
[01:13] <RHorse> helper try 0
[01:13] <eross> oops trying to play it
[01:14] <Ampelbein> Arcitens: what error? please use pastebin to paste the complete error message
[01:14] <Arcitens> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:14] <Arcitens>   File "/usr/bin/alacarte", line 36, in <module>
[01:14] <Arcitens>     main()
[01:14] <Arcitens>   File "/usr/bin/alacarte", line 32, in main
[01:14] <Arcitens>     app = MainWindow(datadir, version, sys.argv)
[01:14] <Arcitens>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Alacarte/MainWindow.py", line 49, in __init__
[01:14] <FloodBot2> Arcitens: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <Kruger> you angered floodbot
[01:14] <Ampelbein> Arcitens: That's why i said use pastebin.
[01:14] <Ampelbein> !paste | Arcitens
[01:15] <Arcitens> Really sorry about that. New here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/180766/
[01:15] <armence> Hello all, I am reading from some largish text files (6 megs or so) line by line, processing the line and then trying to print something to the screen after each line... However, for some reason, nothing is being printed. Can anyone help?
[01:16] <dsdeiz> oh yeah, irc isn't block in our office.. :D
[01:16] <Zeph> Just tried going to the puppylinux room and not really getitn help there soo... I'm on the B command line thingy.. and I'm wanting to run a setup from my USb CD ROM.. how do I do it?
[01:16] <Zeph> GRUB*
[01:16] <armence> sorry, wrong channel
[01:16] <mib_0uimd06n> can anyone tell me a wireless notebook card that is widely available and works right out of the box with 9.04?
[01:17] <Ampelbein> Arcitens: rename your ~/.config/menus file and try starting alacarte again. something screwed up your menu...
[01:17] <RHorse> mib_0uimd06n dwl-g630 and dwl-g650 have worked for me
[01:17] <Arcitens> Ampelbein: which file in ~/.config/menus ?
[01:17] <Bob_Dole> mib_0uimd06n,  what interface? There's 3 common ones
[01:17] <Ampelbein> Arcitens: the complete folder
[01:19] <eross> does pulseaudio need to run in background, what is it for?
[01:19] <Ampelbein> eross: it's the soundserver used.
[01:19] <Ampelbein> !pulse | eross
[01:19] <eshaase> how come jaunty doesn't have propriatary drivers for my 3d card when it did in hardY?
[01:20] <eross> oh so i can stream it to another device?
[01:20] <mib_0uimd06n> ummm ... I guess gnome is what installs with the Ubuntu 9.04 I dl'd from the site
[01:20] <syntax\> can i add a wireless connection manually via command line?
[01:20] <Bob_Dole> SOme older cards were dropped
[01:20] <Kruger> eshaase: hah I'm working on that right now
[01:20] <Bob_Dole> Nvidia and ATI dropped support in latest drivers, and latest drivers are the only thing working in the latest Xorg, if memory serves
[01:20] <Kruger> eshaase:but juanty found my card and is downloading the driver for it now
[01:21] <Ampelbein> eross: that's one purpose, yes.
[01:21] <eross> thanks
[01:21] <eshaase> Kruger: working on what? what do you mean?
[01:22] <Kruger> eshaase: oh just getting the drivers for my card installed in jaunty
[01:22] <sweetlorenzo> where the gals at
[01:22] <eshaase> Kruger: how'd ya do it?
[01:22] <eshaase> Kruger: my xorg.conf is really plain too =(
[01:23] <mib_0uimd06n> hm! the dwl-g650 is pretty cheap, too!
[01:23] <Bob_Dole> sweetlorenzo, No women on the internets, sadly.
[01:23] <Ampelbein> sweetlorenzo: can you rephrase your question?
[01:24] <Kruger> eshaase: I haven't done it yet.  I just installed something that System> Administration > Harware Drivers found
[01:24] <Kruger> but it doesn't seem to be working
[01:24] <eshaase> Kruger: oh, so it was found for you
[01:24] <Kruger> yes
[01:24] <eshaase> Kruger: luck you
[01:24] <techteen> I'm having issues with the resolution of my new monitor, if someone is willing to spare a moment
[01:24] <Zelfje> where does the driver nostalgia go :P
[01:24] <Kruger> my last step will be finding the drivers myself and then trying to install them.  I wonder if you need a wrapper or something with that
[01:25] <focus> hello im a some what experienced ubuntu user but i cant seem to get the internet to work one of my computers
[01:25] <techteen> Why can't I get 1920x1080 res out?
[01:25] <focus> i can reach the local network and my router but not my internet
[01:25] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: your stil here, so  I didn't suggest you tried a differnet PCI slot by the way
[01:26] <Ampelbein> focus: you got your own internet? that's cool. seriously: what is not working? are the routes set correctly? can you connect directly using ip-addresses?
[01:26] <ryanprior> sebsebseb: Oh, maybe somebody else did. >.>
[01:27] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: yep someone else,  wireless isn't really my thing anyway, since I am hardwired :)
[01:27] <focus> ampelbein: :P point taken, everythign is set right and i have tried it as auto dhcp and tried setting everything to static
[01:28] <sebsebseb> focus: if it's hardwired ethernet should just work, if wireless well you can get issues.  I can't really help you, so I am just saying here
[01:28] <focus> ampelbein: i just cant seam to ping the internet
[01:28] <Kruger> I feel like a wireless expert after 3 days of trying to get mine to work lol
[01:28] <Kruger> there's a cool channel on this server that helps with wireless connections
[01:28] <focus> any one any ideas why i cant ping out side of my network
[01:28] <Ampelbein> focus: please pastebin the output of 'route'
[01:28] <techteen> I can't get 1080p out in Ubuntu
[01:29] <focus> ampelbein: everything is right
[01:30] <ki4cgp> Hi, I hosed my ownership of all files on system.  Is there a utility that would chown at least the system files to their proper owner/groups?
[01:30] <focus> ampelbein: i checked my ifconfig to
[01:30] <SOG> um... I got a question related to resolution... the PC I am using have 1024 x 480 screen, so it's height is very short, so whenever I open a window, I can't see anything more than  480 height, anyone know any solutions ?
[01:30] <Ampelbein> focus: oh, ok then.
[01:31] <inaequitas> hello world. i've been looking for linux-image-debug for 9.04 [2.6.28-11] but nowhere to be found. forums hint that it's altogether missing. anybody have any info on when one would be available, or a workaround? [besides recompiling the kernel]
[01:31] <focus> ampelbein: thats why im so comfused
[01:31] <mediaBox> Hey- How do I make sure my computer NEVER puts its display to sleep or suspends? I have "never" selected in power management, but it seems to blank out the display from time to time. I have an nVidia card if it matters
[01:31] <focus> ampelbein: confused
[01:31] <Ampelbein> focus: although i think if you can't reach servers in the internet, there is something wrong. but obviously it's all ok and your internet is just broken ;-)
[01:32] <focus> ampelbein: :( i spent all week setting up computers at work like this
[01:32] <TheDominantOne> sup everyone
[01:32] <calcperson> Is Ubuntu's upgrade process from one version to another really stable and usable?  I currently use Fedora, and whenever I upgrade to a new version, applications don't work for random reasons, dependencies are missing, etc.
[01:32] <focus> ampelbein: the only difference is that its a labtop
[01:32] <techteen> Hey, everyone. How do I get a 1920x1080 resolution out to my monitor?
[01:32] <RHorse> mediaBox use xset
[01:32] <calcperson> and I end up just having to do a clean install every time
[01:33] <mediaBox> RHorse: please advise
[01:33] <focus> calcperson: i had no problems and i scrwed up the upgrade in the middle
[01:33] <Ampelbein> calcperson: if you follow the standard upgrade-path, no problems are to be expected.
[01:33] <SOG> techteen:  go ahead and edit the XOrg file
[01:33] <unop_> calcperson, it used to be quite an issue with older versions of ubuntu .. not so much anymore tho a few minor nags persist
[01:34] <calcperson> Oh, OK, thanks, that's good
[01:34] <MeXTux> I'm trying to configure a DHCP server. Does anybody know what does "Dynamic BOOTP" mean??
[01:34] <calcperson> Also, if I have a third-party repository with Fedora RPMs, is there any convenient way I can still use it on Ubuntu?
[01:35] <TheDominantOne> MexTux: what tutorial are you following
[01:35] <RHorse> mediaBox use 'xset s off' and 'xset -dpms' commands
[01:35] <mediaBox> RHorse: Thanks. How do I make these permanent, and why does the built in power management not work correctly?
[01:35] <vbgunz> does anyone know why saving a file in vim can cause vim to go unresponsive for about 6 or 7 seconds?
[01:36] <unop_> MeXTux, BOOTP was(is?) a legacy protocol similar to DHCP in which address assignments were static (i.e. you had to map individual mac addresses to IP addresses, etc) .. so my guess here is this option provides some dynamic aspect to BOOTP
[01:36] <Ampelbein> MeXTux: it's the address-range assigned to bootp clients.
[01:36] <vbgunz> this never happened before 9.04 :(
[01:36] <calcperson> I think there's "alien" or something like that to convert individual RPM packages to DEB packages, but converting each RPM individually and its dependencies isn't that convenient
[01:36] <RHorse> mediaBox I put them in my window manager's startup file. But you can use cron or type them at a terminal
[01:37] <mediaBox> RHorse: can you explain the startup file method? Using Gnome, Ubuntu 9.04
[01:37] <calcperson> I was hoping maybe I could just use the fedora repo like a regular ubuntu repo using apt-get or something
[01:37] <Kruger> can some one please check this pastebin and tell me if it looks good: http://www.pastebin.ca/1434512
[01:37] <MeXTux> I found a tutorial in this page: http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/401460-kiwi-ltsp.html but it is for openSUSE. I'm a newbie and started to read that one
[01:37] <Kruger> thanks
[01:38] <mediaBox> RHorse: Think I got it.. System-->Preferences-->Startup Applications, just add two entries with those commanbd?
[01:38] <thiebaude1> Kruger: you running ubuntu 64 bit
[01:38] <fudgecake> Okay, i've had problems before but is it possible to run ubuntu even with my rubbish video card (sis760, i've never heard of it before either).
[01:38] <fudgecake> it was all blury before
[01:38] <syntax\> can i add a wireless connection manually via command line?
[01:38] <Kruger> thiebaude1: I don't think so
[01:38] <Kruger> thiebaude: but I think my chip is 64bit
[01:39] <thiebaude1> Kruger: ok, just wondering
[01:39] <Ampelbein> fudgecake: should work, but no desktop effects.
[01:39] <RHorse> mediaBox I would put an & after them so they don't hang your startup sequence. Hopefully it will work. If not, do a cron job.
[01:39] <Kruger> thiebaude: did you read my pastebin?
[01:39] <Kruger> http://www.pastebin.ca/1434512
[01:39] <thiebaude1> Kruger: yes
[01:39] <Kruger> kk
[01:39] <ki4cgp> Hi, I hosed my ownership of all files on system.  Is there a utility that would chown at least the system files back to their proper owner:group?  I'm thinking a reinstall will be in order, but I figured I'd throw this out to see if anyone had a good idea on it
[01:40] <thiebaude1> Kruger: are you having graphic problems?
[01:40] <Kruger> yes
[01:40] <Kruger> can't enable effects
[01:40] <mediaBox> RHorse: sorry to keep bugging.. One entry, "xset s off & xset -dpms" ?
[01:40] <Kruger> it appears as if the drivers are running though
[01:40] <Kruger> how do you check if your drivers are working for your gcard?
[01:40] <RHorse> mediaBox 2 entries on two line each with trialing &
[01:41] <thiebaude1> Kruger: your pastebin looks normal
[01:41] <thiebaude1> Kruger: im not sure
[01:41] <ki4cgp> kruger, glxinfo should tell you
[01:41] <RHorse> mediaBox 2 entries on seperate line, each having a trailing &
[01:42] <axscode> hi guys, im using minicom, but to no avail, the cisco device is just giving me trash display.. can someone help out please.
[01:42] <Kruger> Anyone know how to turn off system beeps when I restart and turn my computer off?
[01:42] <mediaBox> RHorse: I wrote a bash script to do this. WHere is the autostart directrory in Gnome?
[01:43] <Ampelbein> ki4cgp: do a reinstall. it's quicker than manually fixing all the permissions by hand.
[01:43] <unop_> axscode, can (and did) you set the baud rate and error control on minicom ?
[01:43] <thiebaude1> Kruger: thats one i'll like to know too
[01:43] <RHorse> Kruger xset -b
[01:43] <axscode> unop_ it is set to 9600 8N1
[01:44] <Kruger> what is Ubuntu memtest86?
[01:44] <RHorse> mediaBox 2 http://linux.about.com/library/gnome/blgnome8n18c.htm
[01:44] <thiebaude1> Kruger: it test your ram memory for any problems
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Kruger: a RAM checker or some such,  I don't really understand it heh,  I have had it open a few times
[01:44] <thiebaude1> hi seb
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Kruger: apparnatlly it also needs to be run for quite some time, before any proper useful results
[01:44] <ki4cgp> Ampelbein, thanks.  I was fearful of that.  its a 500 gig that is full, so I'm scrambling to find a way to offload it so I don't have to repartition/move data.  Oh well.  If I must, then I must.
[01:44] <axscode> any help unop_?
[01:44] <mediaBox> RHorse: thanks for your time and your information, you've been most helpful
[01:44] <sebsebseb> thiebaude1: hi
[01:44] <unop_> axscode, I don't know much about minicom -- all i know is the values for the parameters
[01:45] <axscode> what should it be?
[01:45] <RHorse> mediaBox HIH, yw
[01:45] <Kruger> its weird starting Ubuntu and not having a million start up programs load like windows does
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Kruger: :)
[01:45] <thiebaude1> how do you turn off notifications?
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Kruger: you'll get used to it
[01:45] <Ampelbein> ki4cgp: lessons learned: 1. don't mix system-partition with data-partition. 2. don't chown -R /
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Kruger: indeed the amount of rubbish that wants to load up with  most Windows installs
[01:45] <unop_> axscode,  9600bps, 8data bits, no parity, 1 stop bits and no flow control
[01:45] <Ampelbein> ki4cgp: ;-)
[01:46] <axscode> exactly the same unop
[01:46] <ki4cgp> kruger, wait until you've been on ubuntu for a while and then fire up windows for some reason. You'll get aggravated quickly
[01:46] <Ampelbein> ki4cgp: i recommend to all my clients to use a seperate /boot, /home, /var and / partition.
[01:47] <Kruger> ki4cgp: yea its nice.  actually my windows starts really slow for even windows. like I'll wait at the splash screen for literally 10 minutes sometimes
[01:47] <Kruger> and its not after an update tha tI know of its just random
[01:47] <wots> s
[01:47] <ki4cgp> Ampelbein, Yes.  I made the mistake when I chown'ed a dir instead of -R ./* and left off the "."
[01:47] <wots> x / okay
[01:47] <wots> "." ;)
[01:48] <wots> i made "THE MISTAKE" too ;)
[01:48] <ki4cgp> Ampelbein, which left me with /*
[01:48] <Mac> Hello/
[01:48] <Ampelbein> ki4cgp: right. i guess next time you will double-check before hitting <enter> *g*
[01:48] <Ampelbein> !hi | Mac
[01:48] <ki4cgp> Ampelbein, lol, not quite.  I did this once before
[01:48] <Mac> New to Umbuntu. need help please
[01:49] <Mac> new to irc too
[01:49] <Sarai> anybody here really experienced with Wubi?
[01:49] <Ampelbein> Mac: just ask, we won't bite. at least, most of us don't.
[01:49] <thiebaude1> Mac, ok lets see if we can help
[01:49]  * Sarai does bite, actually
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Sarai: maybe some, but Wubi is usauly not a good idea, because of weird issues that can happen
[01:49] <Mac> 1000 questions. lol sorry
[01:49] <Mac> What anti-virus?
[01:49] <Sarai> sebsebseb: mind if I private message, it's a long story
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Mac: you don't need one
[01:50] <thiebaude1> Sarai: i've used wubi before
[01:50] <Mac> really?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Mac: at this time
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Mac: yes really
[01:50] <Mac> cool
[01:50] <thiebaude1> sebsebseb: yea, you are right about wubi
[01:50] <ki4cgp> Anyhow.  Thanks friends.  Now off to see how I can get this all sorted out.
[01:50] <Mac> ok, How do I get it to see my network printer?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Mac: and the ones that exist basically only scan for Windows viruses, which won't infect Ubuntu or any other OS that insn't Windows,  ( with maybe the exception of ReactOS which will become an open source clone/version of Windows)
[01:50] <ki4cgp> Mac, the only reason you might want an AV is if you are concerned for other computers on your network.
[01:51] <sebsebseb> !virus |  Mac
[01:51] <Kruger> I wonder if linux would get more viruses if it were more popular
[01:51] <sebsebseb> Mac: you may have to configure your network printer, which won't be  that easy
[01:51] <thiebaude1> Kruger: i dont think so
[01:51] <sebsebseb> Kruger: maybe, but would still have to have users installing them themselves
[01:51] <Ampelbein> ki4cgp: use live-cd to move data on external hd (or anywhere else), then reinstall keeping data and system separate.
[01:51] <sebsebseb> Kruger: read the link above that the bot gave
[01:51] <Kruger> sebsebseb: like in vista
[01:52] <Bob_Dole> Linux only needs an AV if you have WINE installed, and running a lot of suspicious software (or using a windows web browser, like me .-.)
[01:52] <sebsebseb> Kruger: no not like Vista
[01:52] <wots> shit ;)
[01:52] <wots> holys1t
[01:52] <sebsebseb> Kruger: can get malware installed pretty easilly in Vista even with it's new type of default account
[01:52] <Kruger> k my gcard works now.   :)
[01:52] <Kruger> now I can play :)
[01:52] <Sarai> Okay, here's the thing, then. I've been working on this jaunty bug that has come up, causing the default keyboard to spontaneously be reset to the "af" layout. The fix involves changing it back in the "/etc/default/console-setup" file during a live cd session. A guy has asked me for help in doing this, but he's using wubi and I'm not sure how to access that file, either from a live cd or...
[01:52] <sebsebseb> Kruger: Windows security, well there isn't much of that,  and they know how to get round it when it comes to malicious  programs.
[01:52] <Sarai> ...windows. Any ideas?
[01:52] <ki4cgp> Ampelbein, Yep, used a livecd to restore root to my entire drive, and then set users to proper home dirs
[01:52] <Kruger> is there a common compiz tutorial you link to all the nubs like me?
[01:53] <sebsebseb> !compiz | Kruger
[01:53] <pembrokepuppy> hi
[01:53] <sebsebseb> pembrokepuppy: hi
[01:53] <Mac> ok, wrote the link down thanks
[01:53] <sebsebseb> !cups | Mac
[01:53] <Kruger> I like linux so far I just don't want to be one of those people that defends it even when its bad and rips on windows even when its better :P
[01:53] <Silo> 56K conexant hfc modem fails to initialize under ubuntu...
[01:53] <pembrokepuppy> I had a question before my internet crashed, how do I wipe the settings for auto start on ubuntu,
[01:54] <sebsebseb> Kruger: yeah, but really no closed source is better, because it's closed source :d :)
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !freedom | Kruger
[01:54] <Gourlis> How can I open a port on ubuntu ? Or see what ports are open ?
[01:54] <ki4cgp> Ampelbein, I have my desktop back and files.  Most things are OK, but stuff like networking is still botched.  I can't get sudo from within desktop env.  I have no problems with command line, so I'm fine there too.
[01:54] <pembrokepuppy> it's opening pidgin and smb4k each time i boot
[01:54] <pembrokepuppy> but I don't want it too
[01:54] <Sarai> Anyone? At least ideas on where I could look or people I could ask?
[01:55] <Animagladius> Hey guys
[01:55] <pembrokepuppy> I have checked the preferences startup programs but it's uncheck
[01:55] <Mac> can't copy and paste from here lol
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Kruger: that's not as in price.  free as in open code
[01:55] <Ampelbein> ki4cgp: yeah, those are the common side-effects.
[01:55] <thiebaude1> pembrokepuppy: preferences>startup applications
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Animagladius: hi
[01:55] <Silo> anyone able to use dialup with hardware pci modem?
[01:55] <ki4cgp> Gourlis, you can open a terminal and type "netstat -a" which will give you a long list of all the ports/connections on your system
[01:55] <Animagladius> I got this MEDION pen tablet today... I've been looking for a handwriting recognition tool, but can't find anything adequate... Do you maybe have an idea? I've been googling and researching for hours now... :(
[01:56] <pembrokepuppy> thiebaude1 thanks tried that but programs are still opening, even worse each time I boot up it adds another maximum process
[01:56] <Gourlis> ki4cgp, can I open a port for uTorrent ?
[01:56] <pembrokepuppy> there's like six running now
[01:56] <sebsebseb> !dialup | Silo
[01:56] <Mac> How do I do something as simple as change my desktop background (I am trying as I type this)
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Mac: like Windows
[01:56] <Animagladius> lol
[01:56] <syntax\> can i add and configure a wireless connection without network-manager?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Mac: right click on desktop and change it
[01:56] <ki4cgp> Gourlis, most likely ubuntu isn't stopping you from using that port unless you have a firewall running
[01:57] <sebsebseb> Mac: however on a clean install you won't get many to choose from
[01:57] <Bob_Dole> I only have issues with ports from my DSL Modem/Router.
[01:57] <danielrmt1> Mac: right click desktop, "change wallpaper"; or system > preferences > appearence
[01:57] <pembrokepuppy> just wondering if anyone can tell me how to wipe those settings
[01:57] <Mac> lol thanks. never tried right clicking
[01:57] <bluefox83> sound seems to be broken in flash for some reason D:
[01:57] <thiebaude1> pembrokepuppy: any of those programs in startup applications
 lol thanks. never tried right clicking <<< lolsome
[01:58] <pembrokepuppy> every time  I boot a file manager window opens
[01:58] <aaditya> i pressed Alt+Sysrq+R to switch my keyboard to the raw mode. How can I undo it?
[01:58] <pembrokepuppy> as does the chat program and network manager
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Kruger: ok you want something Windows gives better?  Since Mac  i'll say,  it actsaully comes with  quite a few nice backgrounds unlike Ubuntu, but others can be got in the repo and from sites anyway
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Kruger: gives better? does better
[01:58] <vbgunz> does anyone know why saving a file in vim can cause vim to go unresponsive for about 6 or 7 seconds?
[01:58] <vbgunz> this never happened before 9.04 :(
[01:58] <aaditya> pembrokepuppy: System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[01:58] <Animagladius> Wow, now this channel here is being used as a pure support channel for the whole world, as it seems...?
[01:58] <mib_9rzy23> hi
[01:58] <thiebaude1> then options
[01:59] <aaditya> pembrokepuppy: you probably set your session to remember what you left when you logged out. So the same things open when you return..
[01:59] <bluefox83> Animagladius, just the english speaking part
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Kruger: usually  the things where Windows may actsauly be better,  are also rather minor, such as the example I just used
[01:59] <bluefox83> how the heck do i fix sound in flash?
[01:59] <mib_9rzy23> How do I use grep properly? I want use wildcards. eg; find all lines with log.txt that begin with d
[01:59] <bluefox83> !flash
[01:59] <Animagladius> Oh.^^ Well, I'm not from an English speaking country, but I hope it's okay for you if I ask some things, sometimes... :)
[01:59] <pembrokepuppy> thiebaude1 yeah i unchecked the box under options on the preferences> startup apps menu
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Mac: got your background changed?
[01:59] <danielrmt1> mib_9rzy23: grep ^d log.txt
[01:59] <pembrokepuppy> but the programs still open
[02:00] <aaditya> !grep | mib_9rzy23
[02:00] <Animagladius> Lol, I got kicked from #ubuntu-german ... Invite only. Awesome. :D
[02:00] <aaditya> that's probably not what i meant by !grep..
[02:00] <pembrokepuppy> guess my fault for picking it in the first place :(
[02:00] <Kruger> how do I install something from Synaptic
[02:00] <aaditya> Animagladius: #ubuntu-german is invite only?
[02:00] <mib_9rzy23> danielrmt1: Thanks a heap
[02:00] <pembrokepuppy> didn't know it was impossible to turn off
[02:00] <Animagladius> Yeah, seems so
[02:00] <ki4cgp> mib_9rzy23, for all the grep capabilities, the man page is pretty helpful "man grep"
[02:00] <Animagladius> Are you in there? If yes, could you please invite me?
[02:01] <sebsebseb> Kruger: open it up and  right click and install, press apply.  however it's quicker and better to use commands    sudo apt-get install programname
[02:01] <sebsebseb> !synaptic | Kruger
[02:01] <aaditya> Animagladius: i just joined and nothing stopped me from doing so
[02:01] <thiebaude1> Kruger: some ppl do this sudo apt-get install program name
[02:01] <Animagladius> Hm, strange
[02:01] <aaditya> Animagladius: what about /join #ubuntu-german
[02:01] <Animagladius> I know how to use an IRC client :p
[02:01] <Animagladius> [02:59] * Du wurdest durch ChanServ aus #ubuntu-german gekickt (Invite only channel) <<< :]
[02:01] <elky> aaditya, no.
[02:01] <aaditya> Animagladius: lol ok, then make it #ubuntu-de
[02:01] <Ampelbein> Animagladius: #ubuntu-de
[02:02] <Animagladius> wtf
[02:02] <aaditya> elky: no?
[02:02] <Animagladius> Now it's working
[02:02] <Animagladius> Oh, great, thanks!
[02:02] <aaditya> np
[02:02] <elky> aaditya, no, it's not invite-only. i just tested.
[02:02] <Zelfje>  gekickt <-- barbarismus...
[02:02] <aaditya> elky: affirmative
  gekickt <-- barbarismus... <<< It's Klingon actually!
[02:02] <Zelfje> lol
[02:03] <aaditya> Pressed Alt+Sysrq+R to switch my keyboard to the raw mode. How to undo it?
[02:04] <jgould[b]> Anyone ever gotten the trackpad  on a macbook 1,1 to not be so sensitive?
[02:04] <thiebaude1> !offtopic
[02:05] <Mac> Back after dinner. Thanks for the help. 999 questions to go lol
[02:05] <jezi22> what application can i use to compile c++ documents?
[02:06] <thiebaude1> Mac, good luck
[02:06] <jgould[b]> thiebaude1: are you saying my question was offtopic?
[02:06] <thiebaude1> jgould[b]: if its not ubuntu related,yes
[02:06] <aaditya> jgould[b]: i think he is
[02:07] <aaditya> it's not ubuntu related, so yes
[02:07] <jgould[b]> it is.  I'm running 9.04 and can barley work in X because of it
[02:07] <ugliefrog> I upgraded my ubuntu distro on my laptop...now i cant get my wireless external usb to work.....is there a trick
[02:08] <Ampelbein> !compile | jezi22
[02:09] <jezi22> what is !compile?
[02:09] <jezi22> is it a command?
[02:09] <aaditya> jgould[b]: an X server config will fix it
[02:09] <aaditya> jgould[b]: wish i knew which one
[02:09] <danielrmt1> !ubottu | jezi22
[02:09] <jgould[b]> it works the same way in Windows when I'm in that so there is something that OS itX does to
[02:09] <danielrmt1> jezi22: if you type something starting with !, ubottu says something about it
[02:10] <jezi22> @compile
[02:10] <jezi22> !compile
[02:10] <jezi22> woah!
[02:10] <jezi22> XD
[02:10] <jezi22> thanks guys.
[02:10] <thiebaude1> pembrokepuppy: did it work
[02:10] <pembrokepuppy> no not yet
[02:11] <pembrokepuppy> I have rebooted 3 times
[02:11] <thiebaude1> darn
[02:11] <pembrokepuppy> after unchecking the box
[02:11] <aaditya> jgould[b]: mac people play such games often. it is be possible to tweak the settings in Ubuntu though
[02:11] <Kruger> what does ubuntu tweak mean? is that separate program?
[02:11] <pembrokepuppy> is there a hidden config file to edit?
[02:11] <thiebaude1> pembrokepuppy: thats a very strange problem
[02:11] <pembrokepuppy> maybe remove the entries that are screwing up?
[02:11] <pembrokepuppy> yeah I don't want to reinstall the OS to fix it
[02:12] <harpreet_> Asus or Msi?
[02:12] <Bob_Dole> I'm using ASUS, But I hear some people have horrible luck with ASUS. I have no experience and know no one who does :/
[02:12] <Bob_Dole> My ASUS board is wonderful, Harpreet_
[02:13] <plasher2009> s
[02:15] <danielrmt1> Kruger: it is an application: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[02:15] <julio> hi there
[02:16] <harpreet_> Asus or Msi?
[02:17] <focus> can some one help me with my internet I cant ping an outside address but i can ping my local network
[02:18] <p4tric> try repair on other machines
[02:18] <l0ckx> can somebody help me load a module into the kernel?
[02:19] <plasher2009> hello .. I am new on Xubuntu...  I installed  Samba Server... I turn off the laptop, go to lunch... and When I returned  theres no more  Hour /Date  Bar.. or the Lower bar for Minimized windows...  can anyone knows how to get them back????
[02:19] <l0ckx> the documentation for this module is so terrible
[02:19] <l0ckx> it says just use make
[02:19] <eshaase> is my radeon 9600 no longer supported by the proprietary ati drivers in jaunty?
[02:19] <l0ckx> i think i'm supposed to use modprobe, however, none of the files are similar to the examples i've seen in other documentation
[02:19] <JabberWalkie> l0ckx: yeah, .config then make
[02:20] <JabberWalkie> make install if need be
[02:20] <l0ckx> i tried make install, that gave me an error
[02:20] <meanburrito920_> Does anyone know how to open 7-zip files in Ubuntu?
[02:20] <l0ckx> no rule make target "install"
[02:20] <Kruger> I can't seem to get to the compiz settings manager.  I know compiz is already isntalled but I don't think the settings manager is
[02:20] <JabberWalkie> then just make
[02:20] <l0ckx> meanburrity: 7zip-full package
[02:21] <Tully04> Kruger: can you see the application?
[02:21] <Kruger> no
[02:21] <l0ckx> jabber: i used make, and now i have several files in that directory, but when i execute lsmod, that module is not loaded
[02:21] <Kruger> in synaptic I can
[02:21] <plasher2009> Can anyone tell me how to get back the bottom bar for minimized windows??  and also get back the Top bar ..so I can see date and Hour on the desktop??
[02:21] <JabberWalkie> load with modprobe modulename
[02:21] <plasher2009> I am on Xubuntu
[02:22] <Kruger> Tully04: its in the "Not Installed" section of Synaptic
[02:22] <l0ckx> pasher: right click, add pannel, then add all those things to the pannel
[02:22] <Tully04> Kruger: make sure that you have enabled it, i wasnt able to see the manager until i went system > preferences > appearance > visual effects and change to extra
[02:22] <Kruger> and its highlighted in green
[02:22] <plasher2009> lockx: let me try
[02:22] <danielrmt1> Kruger: compizconfig-settings-manager is installed? i don't think it is installed by default
[02:22] <l0ckx> jabberwalkie, what is the proper file extension for the module?  i see .ko .mod.o .mod .mod.c
[02:22] <Kruger> danielrmt1:no its not installed but everytime I click to install it it doesn't do anything
[02:22] <l0ckx> i don't konw which is correct
[02:23] <plasher2009> lockx: theres no Add Panel on the  "right click" window
[02:23] <l0ckx> plasher: http://github.com/tetromino/lenovo-sl-laptop/tree/master
[02:23] <l0ckx> ohhh, sorry
[02:23] <l0ckx> hahaha
[02:23] <isaac_> I have a problem with Audacity recording (or not) in Ubuntu 9.04.  Is this the place to ask questions about it?
[02:24] <nenad> hay
[02:24] <danielrmt1> Kruger: strange, no message, nothing?
[02:24] <Kruger> How do I install from Synaptic again.  I have something in synaptic section of Not Installed but I can't install it lol
[02:24] <JabberWalkie> l0ckx: if it is installed I think you only need the module name
[02:24] <meanburrito920_> l0ckx: I tried that and it didnt work
[02:24] <Kruger> yea no error message
[02:24] <l0ckx> meanburrito: tried what ?
[02:24] <Kruger> nm I figured it out
[02:24] <Kruger> you have to hit "apply"
[02:26] <ray66> Need app to add wallpaper to workspaces in Hardy
[02:26] <plasher2009> can anyone tell me how to get back the low and top bars where u can see the hour/date and minimized windows????  I am on Xubuntu
[02:27] <meanburrito920_> l0ckx: I tried the p7zip-full package from the command line, it claims Error: cannot open file as archive
[02:27] <l0ckx> hum, i'm not sure...
[02:27] <l0ckx> :S
[02:28] <wahnfrieden> hi
[02:28] <wahnfrieden> should i get 9.04 or is there some beta release worth getting
[02:28] <ki4cgp> get 9.04
[02:28] <thiebaude1> plasher2009: you have to top panel?
[02:28] <danielrmt1> plasher2009: read this http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2009/01/how-to-restore-xfce-lost-panel.html
[02:29] <wahnfrieden> is netbook remix any good
[02:29] <wahnfrieden> (im on a netbook, but this is my only computer at the moment)
[02:29] <thiebaude1> top panel
[02:29] <l0ckx> any ideas on this kernel module ?
[02:29] <TheDominantOne> wahnfrieden: what distro/netbook do you have
[02:29] <plasher2009> danielrmt1: ok I will read it.. thanks
[02:29] <wahnfrieden> msi wind
[02:29] <nano404> Hello
[02:30] <TheDominantOne> what distro?
[02:30] <TheDominantOne> ubuntu?
[02:30] <wahnfrieden> no distro yet
[02:30] <wahnfrieden> im installing for the first time
[02:30] <wahnfrieden> from windows 7
[02:30] <TheDominantOne> oh
[02:31] <TheDominantOne> i didnt like netbook remix
[02:31] <TheDominantOne> personally
[02:31] <burvowski> Since turning on normal visual effects, right clicking when I am in any full screen gnome app causes it to flicker to the desktop for a second. It happens in firefox too. This doesn't happen when I'm not in full screen or when I have visual effects turned off. Any ideas? Is this something I'll just have to live with?
[02:31] <burvowski> PS - Alt + Tabbing also causes this
[02:31] <x^code^x> Allo my friends
[02:32] <nano404> I've got a problem, I can't connect to the internet on ubuntu. I'm using a live CD. Using ethernet.
[02:32] <wahnfrieden> TheDominantOne why
[02:32] <x^code^x> how to set proxy in Xchat ? please
[02:33] <TheDominantOne> wahnfrieden: well on my netbook, im running a minimalist wm. dont need all that flashy stuff, saves battery, etc
[02:33] <focus> yay solved my problem my install didnt create a resolve.conf file
[02:33] <boss_mc> where do you get grub stage1_5 and stage2?
[02:34] <joeb3_> x^code^x, settings, preferences, network, network setup
[02:34] <harpreet_> All recent asus motherboards compatible with linux?
[02:34] <wahnfrieden> which wm
[02:35] <plasher2009> danielrmt1: thanks man..  i got my panel back.. thanks
[02:36] <danielrmt1> ok
[02:36] <burvowski> Anyone got any ideas to my gfx glitch?
[02:36] <Krine11> Hi
[02:37] <Krine11> How can i install jaymod?
[02:37] <harpreet_> All recent asus motherboards compatible with linux?
[02:37] <harpreet_> All recent asus motherboards compatible with linux?
[02:37] <polorix> yes
[02:37] <harpreet_> ;
[02:37] <polorix> or you can not beleive me and go and try ;)
[02:37] <harpreet_> polorix: are you sure
[02:38] <Krine11> How can i install Jaymod to my computer?
[02:38] <harpreet_> Krine11: what is jaymod
[02:38] <SOG> um... strange, I don't remember being ask for a root password during installation, but when I do su, it ask me for password
[02:38] <polorix> harpreet_, of course i'm not. Go use google..no one knows that answer here
[02:38] <Krine11> I am sorry Java
[02:38] <Krine11> Some people call it Jaymod
[02:38] <harpreet_> SOG: It is not strange
[02:38] <harpreet_> SOG: you have to set the unix password
[02:38] <Krine11> I mean how do i install Java
[02:38] <nano404> I've got a problem, I can't connect to the internet on ubuntu. I'm using a live CD. Using ethernet.
[02:39] <harpreet_> sudo apt-get install java6-jre
[02:39] <SOG> harpreet_:  so it didn't ask me for the root password during installation ?
[02:39] <boss_mc> SOG: root has no password by defaut
[02:39] <boss_mc> SOG: not ''
[02:39] <JabberWalkie> nano404: is it plugged in?
[02:39] <SOG> oic....
[02:39] <boss_mc> SOG: just no password is valid for it
[02:39] <harpreet_> SOG: you must have two passwords, one for administrator, you must have left it blank or something
[02:40] <scottj_> If one uses mplayer to play audio, how does one pause since it doesn't open a window that takes keystrokes?
[02:40] <harpreet_> SOG: you have to set the password for root
[02:40] <harpreet_> SOG: sudo passwd
[02:40] <SOG> I see, let me do it now, thanks
[02:40] <shoofle> I have a box running 7.04, which I wish to upgrade. should I use the update manager's "upgrade" button, or should I use some other method to upgrade? I've had some trouble with the upgrade button in the past, on another machine, so I feel like I shouldn't trust it. is there anything to be wary of?
[02:40] <Krine11> Hi, How can i install Java so i can play games like runescape agani
[02:41] <boss_mc> Krine11: install sun-java6-plugin
[02:41] <Krine11> Can you please tell me how
[02:41] <SOG> I would use upgrade button, what was your last problem shoofle tell us about it
[02:41] <natschil> what is a dns server I can use to test my wifi? ( it seems I can not lookup anything on dns anymore, but still be connected to irc )
[02:41] <Krine11> boss_mc: can you please tell me i am a noob
[02:41] <shoofle> SOG: the install just ended up broken in a variety of small and annoying ways, I don't have a list :(
[02:42] <shoofle> I'll try the button, I guess
[02:42] <boss_mc> Krine, either open synaptic package manager and install it from there, or 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin' from a command line
[02:42] <syntax\> guys, could you help me out, can i configure a wireless adapter via command line without network manager?
[02:42] <joeb3_> natschil, <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:43] <zamba> syntax\: you could use iwconfig
[02:43] <natschil> joeb3_: thanks, which dns server is that?
[02:43] <joeb3_> natschil, belongs to AT&T
[02:43] <syntax\> zamba: ok sir ill check that out..
[02:44] <boss_mc> Krine11: sorted?
[02:44] <SanityInAnarchy> Is there a way to boot the livecd with a larger tmpfs/unionfs? It found my swap, and I have plenty of it, but not enough RAM for what I want to do.
[02:44] <Krine11> yes i found out a bit now
[02:44] <Krine11> By the way
[02:44] <boss_mc> Krine11: you'll have to restart firefox after the installation
[02:44] <Krine11> i can do all the basic things i will do with windows but maybe just subsitute some stuff?
[02:44] <Krine11> like i surfed using internet explorer
[02:44] <inaequitas> hello world. i've been looking for linux-image-debug for 9.04 [2.6.28-11] but nowhere to be found. forums hint that it's altogether missing. anybody have any info on when one would be available, or a workaround? [besides recompiling the kernel]
[02:45] <Krine11> and i can replace this with ubuntu
[02:45] <natschil> strange, can't seem to actually reach the server, though I am still connected to the internet, I'll need to see if the routes are messed up somehow...how do I clear the routing table completely?
[02:45] <boss_mc> Krine11: ie -> firefox
[02:45] <Mac> is there a place that has a list of common apps (ftp, downloader, ect)? I can't tell the idfference between them
[02:45] <Krine11> ok
[02:45] <boss_mc> Krine11: itunes -> rhythmbox
[02:45] <Krine11> I love ubuntu by the way so thanks to everyone who helps :)
[02:45] <boss_mc> Krine11: wmp -> totem
[02:45] <boss_mc> Krine11: etc
[02:45] <boss_mc> Krine11: everything you could want to do is doable
[02:45] <shoofle> I think my 7.04 install doesn't want to upgrade - it seems to be trying to upgrade to 7.10 :(
[02:46] <nano404> JabberWalkie: Sorry for the late reply, yes it is
[02:46] <SOG> brb
[02:46] <Krine11> by the way is ubuntu good for a 1.80 singl core processor?
[02:46] <Krine11> 1.80 GHz
[02:46] <boss_mc> Krine11: it should run fine
[02:46] <Krine11> ok then
[02:46] <JabberWalkie> nano404: what are you using to connect?
[02:46] <boss_mc> Krine11: if it's painfully slow, you might consider xubuntu
[02:46] <ki4cgp> shoofle: Yes, it upgrades incrementally like that
[02:47] <Krine11> because this is my cmoputer is use and lagged alot on windows and am surprised its running fine
[02:47] <Kruger> how do I make it so I have 4 desktops instead of only 2
[02:47] <boss_mc> Krine11: but it shouldn't be a problem
[02:47] <Krine11> windows told me to buy a new computer
[02:47] <Krine11> ya
[02:47] <Krine11> its not a big problem
[02:47] <shoofle> ki4cgp: But it isn't doing the update - is that old upgrade still available?
[02:47] <joeb3_> natschil, sudo ip route flush
[02:47] <natschil> joeb3_: thanks
[02:48] <jgould[b]> where is xorg.conf.  Find is taking longer than it should
[02:48] <Krine11> well i installed java the one you told me to but i still wont get runescape working
[02:48] <natschil> joeb3_: tells me it needs arguments
[02:48] <nano404> JabberWalkie: What the... It just started working all of a sudden. Not sure what you meant by your question?
[02:49] <shoofle> have the repos changed address or something? it can't find any of them...
[02:49] <ki4cgp> shoofle:  Ahh, it very well might not be available anymore.  its 2 years old.  I updated a machine that was running 7.10 with no problems
[02:49] <shoofle> ki4cgp: Ah :( Dang it I did not want to have to reinstall *again* :(
[02:49] <JabberWalkie> nano404: well, you need to make sure you have a program like pump or dhclient open and that it is trying to access the internet
[02:49] <ki4cgp> shoofle, ask around.  I'm certainly not "all-knowing" in this arena
[02:50] <polorix> has anyone installed airodump-ng on ubuntu?
[02:50] <ki4cgp> shoofle, the upgrade from 7.10 was just a week or so ago
[02:50] <shoofle> Hmm
[02:50] <tvjudge> should typing the command set display the system environment variables?
[02:50] <shoofle> I wonder if the repos did change location between 7.04 and 7.10
[02:50] <nano404> JabberWalkie: Any Idea on why it wouldn't have been working earlier?
[02:51] <boss_mc> tvjudge: env
[02:51] <boss_mc> tvjudge: set does weird things that I don't understand... ;-)
[02:51] <unop_> shoofle, only marginally tho.
[02:51] <BePhantom> hi everybody, i need a little help. How can I see which filesystem my ubuntu has from terminal?
[02:51] <tvjudge> yea i notived that
[02:51] <Mac> Just installed Umbuntu 9.04 for the first time. Any help appreciated
[02:51] <lstarnes> BePhantom: check mount
[02:52] <unop_> BePhantom,  df -Th
[02:52] <shoofle> unop_: my machine isn't finding them - any way I can tell it the newer locations?
[02:52] <shoofle> bah
[02:52] <ki4cgp> shoofle, maybe.  if it did, you might only need to change your sources-list and run apt-get update to redirect it
[02:52] <unop_> shoofle, how do you mean "it isn't finding them" ?
[02:52] <BePhantom> unop_, thanks, that worked
[02:52] <dli> can I upgrade to ekiga-3.2.4 for jaunty?
[02:52] <joeb3_> natschil, ip route flush cache
[02:53] <shoofle> unop_: when I try to apt-get anything, it fails and tells me it couldn't connect.
[02:53] <ki4cgp> unop, shoofle is running 7.04
[02:53] <unop_> shoofle,  can you put the output of this command up on a pastebin.    sudo apt-get update
[02:53] <boss_mc> !ask | Mac
[02:54] <Mac> sorry, thanks
[02:54] <Mac> is there an all in one place to get apps like ftp, downloaders ect? easy apps?
[02:54] <Pici> !software | Mac
[02:55] <ki4cgp> Mac, yes.  Click on Applications>Add/Remove...
[02:56] <shoofle> unop_: it's tripping their spam filters, hold on
[02:56] <tvjudge> thanks boss_mc
[02:56] <boss_mc> tvjudge: vp
[02:56] <boss_mc> *n
[02:56] <Mac> thanks, I wrote it down
[02:56] <unop_> shoofle, never mind, I believe the reason is that 7.04 has come to the end of its life.
[02:56] <unop_> !7.04
[02:57] <ki4cgp> !upgrade
[02:58] <agrathwohl_> I just switched to e17 after using GNOME+Compiz for a long time. Now, for some reason, every time an application alert appears, I get that very annoying bongo roll sound accompanying it. What do I have to do to make sure that sound never plays again?
[02:58] <ki4cgp> !eol
[02:58] <shoofle> ah :(
[02:58] <clug> Does hardy have any major vulnerabilities in it? I am trying to hack some guys server
[02:58] <shoofle> !eol
[02:59] <shoofle> oh
[02:59] <eseven73> !ot | clug
[02:59] <clug> I need support on ubuntu hardy, does it have any major vulnerabilities I need to worry about?
[02:59] <Flannel> clug: Thats not an appropriate question for Freenode
[03:00] <eseven73> clug, very smart rewording there, nice try :P
[03:01] <Drakeson> Which graphic card manufacturer has good linux friendly 3D accelerated graphic cards?
[03:01] <agrathwohl_> Drakeson: nVidia, without a doubt. Don't do ATI.
[03:01] <dli> Drakeson, AMD (ATI)
[03:02] <agrathwohl_> dli: AMD (ATI) is years behind nVidia in terms of reliability, support, and features. ATI graphics cards chug severely on even the most powerful Linux systems.
[03:02] <shoofle> curse this computer of mine
[03:02] <boss_mc> dli: you could not be more wrong
[03:02] <macd> Jaunty install, console shows error: grep: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libprce/so/3: unsupported vsion on 19525 of Verneed record., removing package libpcre3 + purging, reinstalling fixes error and grep works fine, until next reboot, when the error re-appears
[03:03] <agrathwohl_> Is nobody here familiar with what daemon Ubuntu runs that makes all those obnoxious system alert sounds? I want them gone for ever and ever and ever...
[03:03] <Drakeson> I know AMD has released specifications for their graphic cards, but I haven't been able to get the 3d accel to work reliably
[03:03] <joljam>  I am having problems with ekiga in jaunty...whenever I dial I get the msg "Call Completed" and the call does not go through
[03:03] <dli> Drakeson, go intel, if performance in mind, go AMD, both support open source
[03:03] <agrathwohl_> dli: You're so incredibly wrong! Drakeson: don't listen to what dli is saying...
[03:03] <dli> Drakeson, r6xx/r7xx still in development, up 5o r5xx is quite stable
[03:04] <eseven73> agrathwohl_, System >Preferences> Sound > Sound tab
[03:04] <Drakeson> dli: I know a bit about radeon and radeonhd, but do they have _3D-Acceleration_ ?
[03:04] <agrathwohl_> eseven73: I am using e17. I need to know the /actual/ daemon, not the GNOME frontend to it.
[03:04] <polorix> yes
[03:05] <agrathwohl_> Drakeson: Yes, but it's poor in quality compared to nVidia driver support.
[03:05] <dli> Drakeson, both have 3D for up to r5xx for over one year
[03:05] <polorix> i love nvidia, but this laptop i'm on has an ati card...but ubuntu used the 3D accel out of the box
[03:05] <JabberWalkie> nano404: dunno, maybe if it is a new computer or nother install or something your host seems to take a little bit to assign you a new ip....for some reason....has happened to me in the past
[03:05] <Demonicdata> Anyone have something weird happen with firefox
[03:05] <eseven73> agrathwohl_, ah sorry I didn't catch that part, im not familiar with e17 sorry :)
[03:05] <agrathwohl_> eseven73: It's alright, thanks for your help! =)
[03:05] <dli> Drakeson, I think r6xx/r7xx 2D is quite complete at this point, kernel mode setting, dri2 etc are also close to complete
[03:06] <polorix> does anyone else experience weird things when the compiz stuff in enabled? like everything is slick except resizing windows and opening minimized windows
[03:06] <polorix> (ati)
[03:06] <Demonicdata> its seems after some time firefox will stop accepting changes,i mean i can add or delete bookmarks but as soon as i close firefox and reopenen it its gone.i'f tried advice of deleting .sqile files or watever they are called but it seems the only thing that will work is the delete bookmark backups which resets firefox i just stuck with no bookmarks
[03:06] <Drakeson> agrathwohl_: is there an open-source nvidia driver with 3D-acceleration support?
[03:06] <agrathwohl_> polorix: Yes, you will get support, but contrary to what dli is saying, the performance is incredibly poor. Simply put, the proprietary Linux ATI drivers do not take full advantage of the cards themselves.
[03:06] <dli> Drakeson, I heard about time table of "3 months" back in April, for r6xx/r7xx 3D
[03:06] <polorix> agrathwohl_, i totally agree
[03:07] <dli> Drakeson, there's rev-engineering nouveau driver for nvidia
[03:07] <agrathwohl_> Drakeson: I don't believe nVidia releases their driver sources, but they have a proprietary driver that is SUPERB.
[03:07] <shoofle> whee, tarring up the home directories and stuff for backup fun!
[03:07] <dli> Drakeson, but since nvidia refuses to release docs, nouveau development is active, but intrinsically slow and lack of features
[03:07] <ki4cgp> shoofle, me too
[03:07] <nano404> JabberWalkie: Ahhh, thanks
[03:08] <agrathwohl_> Does anybody know what the sound alerts daemon is called that Ubuntu runs?
[03:08] <Drakeson> agrathwohl_: we had security issues with the nvidia driver in the past.  I used ATI's drivers on a Gentoo machine for a brand new ATI card that was still rather pathetic.
[03:09] <agrathwohl_> Drakeson: What kind of security issues?
[03:10] <thatguy11> Hey guys, anyone know how lont the break between the 2nd and the 3rd quarter of nba playoff games is? What about between 1st and 2nd or 3rd and 4th? Thanks
[03:10] <macd> Kinda offtopic there agrathwohl_ / Drakeson
[03:10] <polorix> and thatguy11
[03:10] <polorix> :P
[03:10] <macd> Fresh Jaunty install, openssh-server installed, process sshd is running, netstat shows no processes bound, and connection actively refused.
[03:10] <dli> Drakeson, or, wait for larrabee from intel
[03:10] <agrathwohl_> macd: Sorry, kinda spun out of a support-related discussion from earlier.
[03:11] <polorix> macd, it's because of your skin color =/
[03:11] <Gnome_Danny> help! My friend sent me one of those links that move your browser and you can't exit it and its really disturbing how do I kill firefox!
[03:11] <dli> macd, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart ?
[03:11] <rabar> why does apache on ubuntu automaticallly redirect http://server/test to http://server/test.php ?
[03:11] <macd> dli, a few times already
[03:11] <dli> macd, nmap localhost
[03:12] <RHorse> Gnome_Danny killall firefox-bin
[03:12] <rabar> (how can I stop apache from autodirecting?)
[03:12] <macd> rabar, DocumentRoot, in apache2.conf
[03:12] <dli> macd, check messages in /var/log/
[03:12] <Gnome_Danny> Thanks! I sat threw 400 spins ....
[03:12] <dsdeiz> rabar: i would like to know how to do that too
[03:12] <dsdeiz> i'm having the same problem
[03:12] <agrathwohl_> Gnome_Danny: Type in your terminal "killall firefox"
[03:12] <macd> dli, netstat lists locally bound daemons so nmap seems redundant, syslog, messages, both show nothing.
[03:12] <rabar> macd thanks let me check that
[03:12] <eseven73> Gnome_Danny, you should try NoScript extension for firefox
[03:12] <Gnome_Danny> agrathwohl_: That worked!
[03:13] <ryanprior> My mouse sucks and I'd like to get a nice one, but I really love the clicky feel of cheap mice that is usually replaced by a more subdued tactile feedback on more expensive mice. Can anyone suggest a high-quality mouse that also has satisfying tactical feedback? Thanks.
[03:13] <ryanprior> Gnome_Danny: alt+f2, "killall firefox"
[03:13] <ryanprior> agrathwohl_: You're late to the party. ;-)
[03:13] <FloodBot2> ryanprior: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:13] <eseven73> NOscript will prevent those kinds of links from screwing with firefox
[03:13] <dli> Gnome_Danny, I think "pkill firefox" is better than killall
[03:13] <Gnome_Danny> eseven73: This was a really disturbing one ..... wow . New to linux , No Alt+Ctrl+del
[03:13] <rabar> macd: so if I do not want it to automatically resolve, what do I change?
[03:14] <kcollins> i've got an interesting occurrence...  I've recently upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04, and have been having some real strange system crashes lately.  Just recently, I had random processes start segfaulting...  I have the log that shows that gvfs-fuse-daemon, glxinfo, nautilus, and gvfs-hal-volume all have segfaulted in quick succession... I'm actually surprised I'm even able to use it at this point (without rebooting)...  any ideas?
[03:14] <Gnome_Danny> I hate you tinyurl!
[03:14] <nano404> haha
[03:14] <macd> rabar, do you need to serve php at all?
[03:15] <xeer> If I were to use the live cd to install to a hard drive and then put it in another machine to use, would it work?
[03:15] <rabar> macd: yes. I mean it happens with any file if I leave off the extension Apache automatically finds the right file but I dont want it to do that
[03:16] <JabberWalkie> Gnome_Danny: in kde you can use Ctl+Esc to bring up a task manager
[03:16] <macd> rabar, so apache automatically appends .php to anything left incomplete, i.e. http://www.foobar.com/test would be test.php? even if test.html exists?
[03:16] <rabar> macd: sorry I think I figured it out from httpd....multiviews problem
[03:17] <owen1_> i get error when burning xubuntu 9.04. I did a checksum and I tried burning with brasero and xfburn. any clue?
[03:18] <xeer> I am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that has no boot media. can I install ubuntu onto the hard drive with another machine and then swap it?
[03:18] <macd> xeer, not very likely, can you boot from usb on that laptop
[03:19] <xeer> macd, no and burning a boot cd to enable usb booting is not an option either
[03:19] <dsdeiz> yeah rabar how were you able to fix it?
[03:19] <dsdeiz> how do you disable multiviews?
[03:19] <rabar> dsdeiz: yep that fixed it!
[03:19] <xeer> macd, I am also without a cat5/crossover cable so PXE is out of the question as well.
[03:19] <dsdeiz> how were you able to fix it? :D
[03:19] <orkaa> xeer, you can swap the drive with no problem...
[03:19] <dsdeiz> kinda new to apache thingy
[03:20] <orkaa> i've done it many times
[03:20] <jgould[b]> is there anywhere else where mouse settings would be for XF86? (other than xorg.conf)
[03:20] <rabar> dsdeiz: edit the file /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[03:20] <xeer> macd, I already have my usb iso made. I just want to boot to the usb stick in a different laptop and install it to the hard drive
[03:20] <macd> orkaa, xeer assuming the equipment is relatively the same
[03:20] <macd> xeer, if it is the same equipment within reason that may workout ok
[03:20] <rabar> and remove muliviews from options on <Directory /var/www/> or whatever
[03:21] <dli> xeer, that should work, you can install it to USB-hdd from another computer
[03:21] <rabar> and then reboot
[03:21] <dsdeiz> got it thanks mate :)
[03:21] <rabar> np
[03:21] <dsdeiz> now i don't get annoyed by this lol
[03:22] <macd> rabar, dont forget in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf also.
[03:22] <rabar> it was driving me nuts. how the hell am I suposed to know "multiviews" means redirect everything close to the filename?!!
[03:22] <xeer> macd, orkaa, they are both hp laptops. the target machine is a few years older though
[03:22] <rabar> right
[03:22] <u18641> g'day
[03:22] <u18641> all
[03:23] <macd> xeer, I guess at this point you can only try ;)
[03:23] <JabberWalkie> xeer: meeh, i say give it a shot, worst that happens is you wasted an hour or so
[03:24] <u18641> can anyone answer, how to open a musicxml file in ubuntu (has been exported from sibelius)....
[03:24] <u18641> thanks
[03:24] <JabberWalkie> xeer: probably need to make sure it is mounting the proper partition to boot from
[03:24] <JabberWalkie> xeer: could be named differently on each computer
[03:25] <laxa8831> hi, how do i install another keyboard layour, i want to be able to type in other languages (but not convert the system)
[03:25] <JabberWalkie> actually, nm, you are using the same hd
[03:25] <JabberWalkie> duh
[03:26] <laxa8831> ive installed the layout in keyboard preferences, but pressing alt+alt doesnt enable it
[03:29] <laxa8831> just got it... enabled press both shift keys and that got it. don't know why both alt keys doesnt work...
[03:32] <eseven73> laxa8831, I think you killed the chat :D
[03:32] <nano404> heh
[03:33] <binarymutant> how do I change my Real Name in xchat? everytime I change it in the network list it doesn't stick =(
[03:35] <eshaase> is my radeon 9600 no longer supported by the proprietary ati drivers in jaunty?
[03:36] <crdlb> eshaase: indeed
[03:36] <joker_> Hi, my gf just wrote 2 hours document in abiword, hit "save as" and poof, abiword exists, no trace of anything left.
[03:36] <joker_> 1 question: what the F/$%"&%
[03:37] <joker_> I just tryed it 3 times in a row, hitting save as exits without asking any question
[03:37] <binarymutant> joker_, open it from a terminal and see the error message
[03:37] <joker_> is there a way to get back the document, some sort of backup I dont know...
[03:38] <binarymutant> joker_, probably not
[03:38] <crdlb> joker_: look for a file ending in .bak~
[03:38] <xp-killer> im in kubuntu 9.04.since i upgrade my resolutioon for my screen doesnt save for 16:3 so every time i restart the pc i have to plug my screen 4:3 then clic on display for it to show on my 16:9 screen hdtv.befor i update i didnt had that problem
[03:38] <eseven73> joker_, you could try photorec to get it back
[03:38] <joker_> crdlb: any idea where to look at?
[03:38] <joker_> eseven73: more input would be appreciated?
[03:38] <eseven73> assuming it got saved somehow in /tmp or something
[03:39] <xp-killer> help
[03:39] <eseven73> photorec file recovery.......erm I don't think Ubuntu has it, you'll have to find a .deb or something :)
[03:39] <crdlb> joker_: the directory where the file was saved, or the cwd otherwise I guess (named Untitled...)
[03:40] <RHorse> joker so that's her story and she's sticking with it?
[03:40] <joker_> RHorse: I just tryed it 3 times in a row
[03:40] <joker_> RHorse: it does just what she claimed
[03:40] <binarymutant> joker_, whats the error message?
[03:40] <crdlb> joker_: there might also be a file ending in .CRASHED
[03:40] <RHorse> joker, oh, sure, *now* it does...
[03:41] <joeb3_> binarymutant, if it does not stick, change .xchat2/xchat.conf.  Set irc_real_name = Some name
[03:41] <binarymutant> joeb3_, ty
[03:42] <polorix_> how do you kill your ghost in irc?
[03:42] <joker_> binarymutant: http://pastebin.com/m4d9ea4c8
[03:42] <binarymutant> polorix_, /ghost nick pass
[03:42] <binarymutant> polorix_, err /msg nickserv ghost nick pass
[03:42] <joker_> crdlb: I did a "locate" for both .CRASHED and .bak, nothing interresting found
[03:43] <crdlb> joker_: you realize locate doesn't actually search the filesystem, right?
[03:43] <joker_> crdlb: I tought it was searching a database that is realtime monitoring the filesystem, wich leads to the same result.
[03:43] <mufasis> ubuntu doesnt let you have a root account correct?
[03:43] <mufasis> you have to sudo right?
[03:43] <eseven73> !root | mufasis
[03:43] <jgould[b]> where in the config files for X would mouse properties be other than in xorg.conf
[03:43] <crdlb> joker_: the index is updated periodically (daily by default, iirc)
[03:44] <polorix> binarymutant: thanks :)
[03:44] <crdlb> joker_: you can sudo updatedb to force it
[03:44] <mah> mufasis: you can use sudo su to get close
[03:44] <joker_> crdlb: okay so I should use find -t file -n *.bak?
[03:44] <mufasis> how do i check what users i have on the computer?
[03:44] <joker_> crdlb: just did the update
[03:44] <EHondaCivic> anyone want to help me with getting my laptops mic to work? only thing i can seem to do is plug in an external mic; and my laptop mic seems to work just fine under vista
[03:44] <tank-man> list of users are in /etc/passwd
[03:45] <mah> mufasis: sys > admin > users
[03:45] <EHondaCivic> im on 9.04 64bit
[03:45] <joker_> crdlb: searched again, found nothing
[03:45] <crdlb> joker_: note that it's .bak~ not .bak
[03:45] <mufasis> i use putty
[03:45] <mufasis> i dont have a gui
[03:45] <mufasis> i mean i do
[03:45] <mufasis> but i cant figure out how to use the gui through putty
[03:45] <eseven73> !enter
[03:46] <joker_> crdlb: finds nothing with bak~
[03:46] <xp-killer> im in kubuntu 9.04.since i upgrade my resolutioon for my screen doesnt save for 16:3 so every time i restart the pc i have to plug my screen 4:3 then clic on display for it to show on my 16:9 screen hdtv.befor i update i didnt had that problem
[03:46] <jared__> is putty the best ssh client for ubuntu?
[03:46] <tank-man> putty is a windows program
[03:46] <jared__> oh.. thought was multiplatform
[03:46] <unop_> !info putty
[03:46] <polorix> jared__: putty? lmfao
[03:46] <joeb3_> putty runs on linux
[03:46] <crdlb> joker_: that's what abiword writes periodically (I'm not sure whether it's enabled by default), and .CRASHED is what it writes when it is able to die in a controlled fashion
[03:46] <tank-man> you want something like putty on linux, it is called ssh
[03:47] <polorix> jared__: open up a terminal =/
[03:47] <joker_> crdlb: I fear that my 3 years worth of work trying to get my gf to use linux is gonna be lost :(
[03:47] <jared__> sorries, new to linux here
[03:47] <rsr> hi
[03:47] <joker_> crdlb: any idea where it SHOULD write that?
[03:47] <polorix> jared__: no worries
[03:47] <joker_> crdlb: I looked in tmp but theres not much revelant stuff there
[03:47] <harpreet_> how do i find , how much power motherboard will need?
[03:47] <mufasis> im using ubunutu 8.04.02 server edition on a proliant dl320
[03:47] <eseven73> joker_, abiword has a Auto-save setting, every x minutes. :)
[03:47] <mufasis> i have fluxbox installed
[03:47] <juxta> jared__: if you open a terminal and type ssh username@hostname that will connect you using the ssh binary :)
[03:47] <mah> harpreet: manufacturer website
[03:47] <crdlb> joker_: right next to the previously saved version of the document :/
[03:48] <mufasis> is there a way to use the gui through putty on my windows box?
[03:48] <mah> harpreet: that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:48] <joker_> crdlb: never been saved, she worked "on the fly"
[03:48] <joker_> crdlb: she's trusting linux. Err, was...
[03:48] <harpreet_> mah: i am building a ubuntu system
[03:48] <jared__> oh i see. and putty is just program that does same for windows?
[03:48] <juxta> mufasis: yes. install xming, then you can use xforwarding
[03:48] <juxta> mufasis: xming on windows, that is
[03:48] <mufasis> i thought that putty had that feature built in
[03:48] <mah> harpreet: that is purely hardware.  check the OEM website.  what is it?
[03:49] <EHondaCivic> anyone want to help me with getting my laptops mic to work? only thing i can seem to do is plug in an external mic; and my laptop mic seems to work just fine under vista
[03:49] <tank-man> you still need a x window server on your local pc to run gui apps remotely
[03:49] <joker_> crdlb: anyway, trying to save any documents exists without askign anything so she would have lost her work anyway
[03:49] <mufasis> juxta ?
[03:49] <eseven73> !pm | mufasis
[03:49] <unop_> jared__, pretty much, people use putty on linux to manage different ssh profiles in a GUI way .. though you don't really need it
[03:49] <joker_> crdlb: this is what IO get from running abiword from command line, trying to save a document: http://pastebin.com/m4d9ea4c8
[03:49] <crdlb> joker_: yes, but she would have discovered that earlier :/
[03:50] <mah> EHondaCiviv:you've checked alsamixer volume levels
[03:50] <joker_> crdlb: indeed. but what is done is done. Now I rely on what the programmes have done to save the day...
[03:50] <joker_> *programmers
[03:50] <mah> EHondaCiviv: in terminal, sudo alsamixer
[03:50] <jared__> unop: cool
[03:50] <EHondaCivic> mah: yes i have, it looks more like ubuntu doesn't see it
[03:50] <kalsriv> hi
[03:50] <kalsriv> I a back with some more quiries
[03:51] <mufasis> do i have to use xming with putty or are they seperate
[03:51] <usser> mufasis, xming is a separate tool, but i'd advise against xming, use cygwin-x instead
[03:51] <kalsriv> Can I install Point of interest on my Garmin GPS using UBUNTU
[03:51] <crdlb> joker_: out of curiosity, does 'ldd $(command -v abiword) | grep local' give any output?
[03:51] <mufasis> why someone else just suggested xming
[03:52] <joker_> crdlb: nope, what does that do
[03:52] <EHondaCivic> mah: alsamixer levels look good
[03:52] <usser> mufasis, xming is not really free, the author wouldn't let you get source code without a donation
[03:52] <juancarlos> holaaa ayudaaaaaa
[03:53] <usser> mufasis, its by all means fine  but if you dont have any money like me...then :)
[03:53] <juancarlos> como hago para poder intalar el  kde 4.2.3???????????????????????????
[03:53] <polorix> rawr
[03:53] <usser> mufasis, not just source code, but binary too
[03:53] <eseven73> !es | juancarlos
[03:53] <mah> EHondaCiviv: make a backup of that one file (etc/modprobe or something like that) and start screwing with it
[03:54] <crdlb> joker_: just a longshot to make sure there were no libraries in /usr/local interfering with abiword. Please file a bug at least, as that's a pretty serious one (obviously)
[03:54] <joker_> crdlb: it should list abiword's dependencies... so outputting nothing is bad?
[03:55] <mufasis> ahhh ok
[03:55] <joker_> crdlb: right now I'd be more interrested in finding back her work as I might not use linux anymore if I dont ;)
[03:55] <EHondaCivic> mah: not 100% sure of what im looking for here
[03:55] <mufasis> i thought that putty had an option to forward tunnels or something so i can view a gui on my server
[03:55] <joker_> crdlb: it's kind of a crisis management here
[03:55] <crdlb> joker_: if abiword never saved it to disk, it's probably gone ...
[03:56] <crdlb> not saving for two hours is a pretty terrible habit on any OS though
[03:56] <joker_> crdlb: thats what i think, but I still have a tidy bit of hope
[03:56] <eseven73> that's the prob with GUI text editors
[03:56] <juancarlos> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:56] <eseven73> VI ftw
[03:56] <joker_> crdlb: agreed.
[03:56] <mah> EHondaCiviv: me neither.  its a .cfg and near that directory.
[03:56] <juancarlos> holaaaa
[03:56] <RHorse> mufasis need xming or other xserver
[03:56] <juancarlos> español???
[03:56] <genii> !es | juancarlos
[03:56] <joker_> crdlb: by defenition, a girl is a bad habbit's nest.
[03:56] <juancarlos> quien
[03:56] <eseven73> juancarlos, /join #Ubuntu-es
[03:56] <EHondaCivic> mah: looking at the alsa-base.conf
[03:56] <usser> mufasis, putty does have the feature to forward x traffic, but it still needs an X server on the client as well as the server
[03:57] <joker_> crdlb: technologically speaking, of course.
[03:57] <Kira> How is the subversion package usually used under Ubuntu? I installed it from aptitude but I don't see the usual control script under /etc/init.d/ (which is usually present for other server-type applications)
[03:57] <mufasis> oh i gotcha
[03:57] <mah> juancarlos: great...what do you want help with?
[03:58] <shoofle> How do I know what device corresponds to a mounted directory?
[03:58] <joker_> apparently there isnt a #abiword :/
[03:58] <mah> juancarlos: que quirre ayudar con?
[03:58] <joker_> shoofle: type "mount"
[03:58] <eseven73> !english | mah
[03:58] <crdlb> joker_: if there is one, it would be on irc.gnome.org
[03:58] <mufasis> which x client is best for windows
[03:59] <shoofle> joker_: ah, thanks!
[03:59] <joker_> crdlb: abiword is gnome based?
[03:59] <joker_> shoofle: np
[03:59] <crdlb> joker_: to some extent, yes
[03:59] <amiltoneandre> anybody speak portuguese?
[03:59] <joker_> crdlb: strange that it comes with xubuntu...
[03:59] <crdlb> joker_: because xfce uses gtk+, just like gnome
[04:00] <joker_> crdlb: anyway, thanks for the small abiword class.
[04:00] <xp-killer> im in kubuntu 9.04.since i upgrade my resolutioon for my screen doesnt save for 16:3 so every time i restart the pc i have to plug my screen 4:3 then clic on display for it to show on my 16:9 screen hdtv.befor i update i didnt had that problem
[04:00] <joker_> crdlb: I guess I'll have to debate with my gf on what should have been done and find some alternative to that kind of bug.
[04:01] <mah> amiltoneandre:  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:01] <joker_> crdlb: so far, I blamed the computer :/
[04:01] <amanda-b> i'm looking for a utility that will help me do mass renames of files and directories. i can use shell scripts that i have to write, or i can use stuff like mc by hand ... i would like something that's more flexible and powerful and can do multiple files at once. i have literally tens of thousands of files that need to be gone through, so any suggestions would be helpful.
[04:02] <joker_> poor good old 600mhz dual PIII has to take a bullet for some software bug ;)
[04:02] <mufasis> can someone tell me whats the best free xwindow client i can use to ssh into my ubuntu box
[04:02] <joker_> crdlb: thanks again.
[04:02] <mah> amanda-b:grep, i have no idea how
[04:02] <Gofforth> amanda-b: There should be a batch rename utility in synaptic
[04:02] <Mac> will umbuntu run from within xp-pro? like any other app?
[04:02] <genii> mufasis: Xwindow client for a Windows box?
[04:03] <mufasis> something like xming thats free
[04:03] <mah> mac: use virtualbox, and yes
[04:03] <Mac> thanks mah. where would I find it and the directions for it?
[04:03] <mah> mac: google
[04:04] <mcnellis> Since upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 my wireless stopped working. I discovered that the ath5k module is the problem so I did rmmod ath5k and then modprobe ath_pci and it not works
[04:04] <mcnellis> but how do I stop ath5k from starting up and to use ath_pci instead?
[04:04] <tank-man> mufasis, I think cygwin has an x window server avaliable
[04:04] <BUGUNTU> O:-)
[04:04] <mase_work> mcnellis: you can add it to your blacklist in /etc/modules.d i think
[04:04] <mcnellis> I added ath_pci to /etc/modules
[04:04] <genii> mufasis: I'm pretty sure xming IS free
[04:04] <mcnellis> /etc/modules.d is a blacklist of modules to NOT load?
[04:05] <tank-man> mufasis, http://x.cygwin.com/
[04:05] <mase_work> mcnellis: i think there is an entry there ,for blacklists
[04:05] <mufasis> youre right =) someone told me it wasnt free but it is ty
[04:05] <mase_work> mcnellis: sorry /etc/modprobe.d#
[04:05] <genii> mufasis: np
[04:06] <mase_work> mcnellis: there is a file called blacklists
[04:06] <BUGUNTU> why isnt ubuntu detecting my monitor ?
[04:07] <BUGUNTU> why isnt ubuntu detecting my monitor resolutions?
[04:07] <diomedesuser> hello
[04:07] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: it requests the EDID from your monitor. If you monitor doesn't return the correct information this is often a cause. You may need to get the information from the manual and place it in xorg.conf
[04:07] <mcnellis> mase_work: I create the file /etc/modprobe.d# ?
[04:07] <mase_work> mcnellis: no, it should be there
[04:07] <mase_work> or something similar
[04:07] <mase_work> i'm on 8.04.2 atm
[04:08] <mcnellis> /etc/modprobe.d# doesn't exist on 9.04
[04:08] <BUGUNTU> why arent there any default resolutions ??
[04:08] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: there are.
[04:08] <BUGUNTU> i can only get 8000x600
[04:08] <Gofforth> mcnellis: are you using 9.04
[04:08] <BUGUNTU> why ?!
[04:08] <mcnellis> yeah Gofforth
[04:08] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: thats the default resolution.  What graphics card are you using ?
[04:09] <BUGUNTU> why can i just select the monitor from a menu list ?
[04:09] <Gofforth> mcnellis:  there is a file in there called blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[04:09] <mcnellis> BUGUNTU: sometimes the defaults don't load right. Try adding them in manually into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:09] <BUGUNTU> manually ?
[04:09] <Gofforth> i would assume that that is what you would use
[04:09] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: i don't think your having a monitor problem
[04:09] <BUGUNTU> do you wnat me to setup a wrong default and seend the monitor for refurbishing ?
[04:10] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: i think your using the generic graphics driver vesa
[04:10] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: what graphics card are you using ?
[04:10] <BUGUNTU> its nor grafics card
[04:10] <samd> mcnellis: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[04:11] <BUGUNTU> thats completly beside the point
[04:11] <samd> mcnellis: if ur looking for the blacklist file, its there, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[04:11] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: do you want help or not ?
[04:11] <BUGUNTU> YES
[04:11] <mase_work> then please answer the question
[04:11] <BUGUNTU> nvidia
[04:11] <Kruger> I have an interview for an internship with a space and science lab as a programmer.  what can I say to impress them?
[04:11] <mah> buguntu is a troll
[04:12] <BUGUNTU> i installed the driver and it went back to 640x480 are you screwing with me ?
[04:12] <TheSHAD0W> Does Ubuntu have real R/W NTFS support yet?
[04:12] <RHorse> don't feed the troll!
[04:12] <samd> TheSHAD0W: yes it has
[04:12] <TheSHAD0W> Arrgh.
[04:12] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: ok so are you currently running the nvidia drivers ?
[04:12] <TheSHAD0W> All the work for nothing then.
[04:12] <TheSHAD0W> :-P
[04:12] <BUGUNTU> ño
[04:12] <BUGUNTU> no
[04:12] <samd> TheSHAD0W: why?
[04:12] <mah> Kruger: don't go off on a tangent about free software or even linux without a prompt
[04:12] <RHorse> mase_work :)
[04:13] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: ok so your usiing nv as opposed to nvidia ?
[04:13] <mcnellis> Kruger: be personable
[04:13] <BUGUNTU> its a screen resolution problem
[04:13] <TheSHAD0W> samd: Have to back up my netbook on an external drive; it was NTFS, I reformatted as FAT32, then realized it wouldn't take large enough files...
[04:13] <samd> TheSHAD0W: ohh, i see :p
[04:13] <mase_work> BUGUNTU: if your so clever then i'll leave you to fix it =) Have fun
[04:14] <TheSHAD0W> Anyway, thanks.
[04:14] <BUGUNTU> sure i knew it
[04:14] <Gofforth> TheSHAD0W:  ouch i had the same problem when doing an image from my laptop to my desktop
[04:14] <samd> theshadow:  no problem
[04:14] <BUGUNTU> NICE HELP
[04:14]  * RHorse picks BUGUNTU off and flicks him away
[04:14] <Gofforth> RHorse: nice
[04:14] <BUGUNTU> must be an anti linux distro
[04:15] <mah> please kick buguntu
[04:15] <mah> now
[04:15] <mase_work> i concur.
[04:15] <BUGUNTU> because stuff always worked out ok
[04:15] <Gofforth> i second the motion
[04:15] <Mac> how do I get umuntu to find my other partions and hard drive?
[04:15] <hobbet1> pray?
[04:15] <Gofforth> Mac: what exactly do you mean
[04:16] <Mac> I have it on a 105 gig partion of a 300 gig drive. and a second 500 gig hard drive
[04:16] <Gofforth> Mac: what are the partitions formatted int
[04:16] <Gofforth> *in
[04:16] <BUGUNTU> (04:16:12) mah: Received CTCP 'PING<PHONE_NUMBER>474' (to BUGUNTU) from mah
[04:16] <BUGUNTU> (04:16:18) mah: Received CTCP 'PING<PHONE_NUMBER>553' (to BUGUNTU) from mah
[04:16] <BUGUNTU> (04:16:29) mah: Received CTCP 'PING<PHONE_NUMBER>629' (to BUGUNTU) from mah
[04:16] <BUGUNTU> (04:16:31) mah: Received CTCP 'PING<PHONE_NUMBER>718' (to BUGUNTU) from mah
[04:16] <BUGUNTU> (04:16:33) mah: Received CTCP 'PING<PHONE_NUMBER>967' (to BUGUNTU) from mah
[04:16] <FloodBot2> BUGUNTU: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <BUGUNTU> (04:16:34) mah: Received CTCP 'PING<PHONE_NUMBER>179' (to BUGUNTU) from mah
[04:17] <munch13> So.. is ext4 really that much faster?  Is there a simple way to convert?
[04:17] <Mac> hmm whatever umbuntu had listed, stupidly I don't know. I rezied and partioned them at umbuntu installation
[04:17] <Gofforth> Mac: okay
[04:18] <Gofforth> Mac: so you're looking for you missing 190-ish gig partition and your 500 gig other hard drive correct?
[04:18] <m00se> Hmm
[04:19] <m00se> Can someone help me out with this
[04:19] <Mac> no a 190 ish gig partion on my main drive AND a 500 gig drive
[04:19] <Gofforth> Mac: okay then
[04:19] <lucax> how can i stop nm-applet to start automaticaly?
[04:19] <Gofforth> Mac: okay open up a terminal
[04:19] <m00se> my system sound is muted and there's an annoying sound playing over and over, which sounds like some fat guy yelling "RAWFUL MAO" like the pronunciation of "roflmao"
[04:19] <mah> m00se:you're supposed to say the question rather than ask about saying it
[04:20] <Mac> don't even know how to do that <---blushes
[04:20] <mah> m00se: did you install something from some stupid person who happens to hate you?
[04:20] <m00se> right before it started happening
[04:20] <m00se> something was written to root.dsk
[04:20] <Gofforth> Mac: goto applications
[04:20] <m00se> mah: No.
[04:20] <Gofforth> Mac: then Accessories then terminal
[04:20] <Mac> ok there
[04:21] <m00se> mah: it looks like some kind of buffer overflow exploit in firefox
[04:21] <Mac> ok, got it
[04:21] <Gofforth> Mac: okay now type "cd /dev" without the quotes
[04:21] <Mac> No such file or directory"
[04:22] <RHorse> lucax go to /etc/init.d and remove the script from the dir
[04:22] <jezrel> how to install vnc
[04:22] <jezrel> how to install vnc
[04:22] <Mac> opps I didnt space it, moment
[04:22] <Gofforth> okay
[04:22] <Perseus> hey guys
[04:22] <Mac> dev$
[04:23] <jezrel> hey guys
[04:23] <Perseus> i need help here
[04:23] <Gofforth> Mac: okay thats good
[04:23] <jezrel> i need help to
[04:23] <mufasis> i dont understand how to use xming with putty
[04:23] <alejandro> hi speaking spanish?
[04:23] <Gofforth> Mac: now how much do you know about the inside of your computer?
[04:23] <lstarnes> !vnc | jezrel
[04:23] <lstarnes> !es | alejandro
[04:23] <Mac> I built all 4 of them
[04:23] <Gofforth> okay so you know what sata and ide look like
[04:24] <Mac> yes, this one has 2 sata drives in it
[04:24] <BUGUNTU> :)
[04:24] <Gofforth> okay now do me a favor and type "ls | grep sd" and type what it prints
[04:25] <jezrel> ok thx
[04:25] <gonzojive> my display is freezing up every day or so.  the output from dmesg is here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/80826
[04:25] <Mac> 1s command not found
[04:25] <gonzojive> this is with ubuntu lts 8.04 and the latest non-beta nvidia drivers
[04:25] <Gofforth> its an L not a 1
[04:25] <Gofforth> just lower case

[04:26] <Mac> opps moment
[04:26] <Gofforth> kk
[04:27] <Mac> sda, sda1, sda2,sda5,sdb,sdb1
[04:27] <Gofforth> okay let me explain what that means....
[04:28] <BUGUNTU> mac are you peeping on my computer ?
[04:28] <gonzojive> can anyone make heads or tails of what is going on in these backtraces? http://paste.lisp.org/display/80826
[04:28] <mah> KICK BUGUNTU
[04:29] <BeatlesFan> hi all
[04:30] <mah> People want to help if you let them
[04:30] <mah> KICK BUGUNTU
[04:30] <BeatlesFan> how accurate is the Ubuntu compatible hardware list for video cards?
[04:32] <tank-man> BeatlesFan, what is your videocard?
[04:32] <BeatlesFan> I have onboard video right now but thinking about getting an Nvidia geforce 6200 256MB card
[04:33] <BeatlesFan> I can get it $40 w/ free shipping
[04:33] <BeatlesFan> the list says it's compatible
[04:33] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  that wouldnt be a bad choice actually ... but the only issue will be if nvidia supports that card next year
[04:33] <tank-man> what do you mean next year?
[04:33] <BeatlesFan> coz_: good point, what if they don't?
[04:34] <tank-man> why wouldnt nvidia support it next year?
[04:34] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  its likely  it wont be
[04:34] <coz_> since
[04:34] <coz_> the 6xxx series is next in line to have support discontinued
[04:34] <BeatlesFan> coz_: so what will happen, it will suddenly stop working?
[04:34] <BeatlesFan> no, it will continue to work
[04:34] <coz_> BeatlesFan, no more kernel modules for uptodate kernels
[04:35] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  so it just wont install
[04:35] <coz_> a driver
[04:35] <soulwarp> intel and ati cards are supported in the open source community i believe
[04:35] <tank-man> i have a nvidia tnt card with a pretty new kernel, no problems
[04:35] <coz_> BeatlesFan, I have a 6600LE here right now and I am a bit concerned about ubuntu 10.10
[04:36] <Demonicdata> hey is there a program to download album covers for my ipod songs?
[04:36] <Kruger> hulu is asking me what version of flash to download: YUM, .tar.gz, .rpm, or .deb    I use Ubuntu 9.04
[04:36] <BeatlesFan> coz_: so you're saying that as Ubuntu evolves support for older devices ends?
[04:36] <eseven73> Kruger, .deb
[04:36] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  not by ubuntu but by nvidia themselves
[04:36] <soulwarp> Kruger: .deb
[04:36] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  no kernel modules will be available
[04:36] <BeatlesFan> coz_: no kernel modules for the newest version of Ubuntu?
[04:37] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  so if you can find for example a 7xxx series card ... you will be better off
[04:37] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  nvidia will not have dirvers compatible for up to date kernels such as those in ubuntu 10.10
[04:37] <Demonicdata> Deb
[04:38] <coz_> BeatlesFan, the 6xxx series of cards is next in line for discontinued support from nvidia
[04:38] <BeatlesFan> coz_: won't the recent kernels be able to handle previous drivers?
[04:38] <Kruger> sad I used the gui instead of the shell to install :( I'm not learning
[04:38] <dht> what the fuck is a LVDS ?
[04:38] <DaZ> BeatlesFan: this part is still supported
[04:38] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  well no nvidia has to create the driver to be compatible with the current kernels
[04:38] <eseven73> !language | dht
[04:39] <BeatlesFan> coz_: ahh.. I thought nvidia creates windows drivers and the open-source community creates the linux/ubuntu drivers?
[04:39] <mufasis> how do i uninstall fluxbox and install xfce?
[04:40] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  oh no  not yet  although the neuveau project...not sure how that is spelled... is backwards engineering the nvidia drivers
[04:40] <soulwarp> Kruger: Ubuntu is about learning about linux, the fact you know it's possible to install a package via command line is one step forward :)
[04:40] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  but they are far from ready
[04:40] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  2d is fine but nothing even close for 3d acceleration
[04:40] <BeatlesFan> coz_: so in the meantime, we're at the mercy of the vendors?
[04:40] <dsdeiz> mufasis: shouldn't you ask "how to remove gnome/kde and install xfce?"
[04:40] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  yep
[04:41] <Demonicdata> I have all 3 installed.well i did then i uninstalled them,although now it says "kubuntu" when booting up
[04:41] <BeatlesFan> coz_: so what would you recommend for a video card that will last for a few years?
[04:41] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  and it's my guess  that it wont be for another 3 years before neuveau is ready
[04:41] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  is this an agp slot?
[04:41] <BeatlesFan> I have PCI and one AGP 8x slot
[04:41] <mufasis> no i have ubuntu 8.04.02 and it came with no gui i installed fluxbox awhile back and im new to linux so its been awhile and i havent been using it
[04:41] <DaZ> pci or pci-e <:
[04:41] <mufasis> server edition i forgot to mention
[04:42] <BeatlesFan> hang on
[04:42] <coz_> BeatlesFan, ok the pci slot is going to be useless for things like compiz    but the agp slot will allow up to the 76xx series of nvidia cards  after that they go pcie
[04:42] <coz_> BeatlesFan,   then of course there is ati  but I am completely a doof with ati so dont ask me  about them :)  but they do have opensource drivers
[04:42] <DaZ> agp cards are more expensive
[04:42] <q0_0p> how do i install ubuntu on the wii?
[04:42] <BeatlesFan> PCI
[04:43] <dht> WHAT THE FUCK IS A LVDS ?
[04:43] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  if you are planning to use compiz dont even think about installing a video card via PCI
[04:43] <BeatlesFan> coz_: thanks
[04:43] <eseven73> !ops
[04:43] <BeatlesFan> coz_: so it's AGP
[04:43] <mr_3ntropy> anyone know where to find the server.met for amule/emule?
[04:43] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  yep AGP  for sure
[04:43] <SeaPhor> !ot | q0_0p,
[04:43] <coz_> BeatlesFan, and if possible a 7600  agp nvidia card
[04:43] <genii> dht: If you continue with the swearing you will be booted
[04:44] <BeatlesFan> thanks, I'll check ebay now and see whats out there
[04:44] <coz_> mr_3ntropy,  hold on i used to get that
[04:44] <mr_3ntropy> irc.mindforge seems down :(
[04:45] <mah> kick dht, he is buguntu
[04:45] <DaZ> coz_: http://wstaw.org/images/free/2009/05/02/95ada5e1f52db307b8b25855f42c5c.png
[04:45] <coz_> mr_3ntropy,    http://ed2k.2x4u.de/index.html
[04:45] <eseven73> Flannel, got him
[04:45] <BeatlesFan> they are a bit pricier
[04:45] <mr_3ntropy> thanks!!!! :)
[04:45] <DaZ> kwin-composite seems to work fine [;
[04:45] <BeatlesFan> coz_: we're talking over $100
[04:45] <Flannel> mah: Please join #ubuntu-ops for a minute, thanks
[04:46] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  some of them are yes  just keep looking on ebay  if you can aford one with 512 megs of memory get it if not  get the 256
[04:46] <BeatlesFan> ok, thanks
[04:46] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  as I said I have a 6600 LE here
[04:46] <coz_> agp
[04:46] <BeatlesFan> what about the 7300 ?
[04:46] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  that's fine also
[04:47] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  and will probably have support for another 3d or 4 years
[04:47] <coz_> 3 or 4
[04:47] <BeatlesFan> coz_: cool.. thanks
[04:47] <g0wda> I can't get to run frostwire.... it gives a big error, one line of which is: Invalid or corrupt jarfile FrostWire.jar....
[04:47] <DaZ> 300s are weak
[04:47] <onexused> How do I install drivers for my wireless card?  I went to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers and clicked "Activate" for the driver, and it told me it was downloading and installing the driver, but the bar never got past 0% and the card still doesn't show up in "ifconfig -a".
[04:47] <JohnP> anyone know where i can get help with HTTrack ?
[04:47] <DaZ> everything under 600 is for office imho
[04:47] <coz_> DaZ,   what am I looking at here ? :)
[04:47] <g0wda> I smell fish in the frostwire shell script: it contains /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrostwire.sh /home/gubatron/workspace/frostwire/builder/..//builder
[04:48] <coz_> DaZ,   is your card not being recognized?
[04:48] <DaZ> coz_: at ViRGE at pci running composite effects
[04:48] <g0wda> the path in the argument doesn't exist, infact there's no user with the name gubatron!
[04:48] <g0wda> wtf?
[04:48] <g0wda> ?
[04:48] <coz_> DaZ,  oh ok  yeah its more than possible on PCI slot  I just think the lag is more possible with that than agp
[04:48] <SeaPhor> onexused, have you downloaded all updates first?
[04:49] <chaorain> I am thinking of buying a Dell insperon mini 9 with ubuntu. Has any tried it?
[04:49] <genii> JohnP: There seems some stuff on it's official page, here: http://www.httrack.com/html/index.html
[04:49] <JohnP> yeah i know.. but i need some live help.. so i came here <grin>
[04:49] <onexused> SeaPhor: I just installed Ubuntu, haven't done anything else.  Am I going to have to do an update to get the wireless drivers?  I was hoping to use the wireless card somewhere to do the update because of connection speed.
[04:50] <SeaPhor> onexused, i have seen a few cases where you needed to get updates first..
[04:50] <Perseus> hey guys
[04:51] <Perseus> would u help me plz ??
[04:51] <onexused> SeaPhor: That's too bad.  I guess I can always let it run overnight for a couple days...
[04:51] <sebsebseb> !details | Perseus
[04:51] <Perseus> ok
[04:51] <SeaPhor> onexused, dial-up?
[04:51] <penguins2387> greetings
[04:51] <BeatlesFan> coz_: what does it mean when it says 3d requires nvidia-glx, use restricted-manager?
[04:51] <onexused> SeaPhor: Unfortunately.
[04:51] <JohnP> i did a search for an httracj irc channel and i saw a site that daid something about ubuntu with launchpad.. but i dont have launchpad or know what that is.
[04:51] <sebsebseb> BeatlesFan: it means install the driver
[04:52] <coz_> BeatlesFan,  you want to install the nvidia driver via   system/administratioin/hardware driver
[04:52] <SeaPhor> onexused, cant run a cat5 cable?
[04:52] <penguins2387> it means that there is a manager avalible that is proprietary and therefore not freeware which you can use
[04:52] <BeatlesFan> coz_: ok, thanks
[04:53] <penguins2387> cheese
[04:53] <Perseus> I Just installed BT4 and it's my first time to work with Linux and I dun know where to go i dun know how to configure my LAN and My Sound Card And I Installed Some Programs Through wine but when i start them they close or crash whatever
[04:53] <penguins2387> well have a great time yall
[04:53] <onexused> SeaPhor: I can, but where do I hook the other end?  A place with free wireless Internet is where I was going to use the wireless card.
[04:53] <Perseus> so would u plz help me
[04:53] <chaorain> Any one know how this comp will handle Blender?
[04:53] <chaorain> http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/dell-inspiron-mini-9n/4505-3121_7-33240837.html
[04:54] <rbraley> hello, does anybody happen to have a recommendation for a wireless pci card or usb dongle that works well in 64-bit ubuntu? preferably cheap and does packet injection
[04:54] <SeaPhor> onexused, possible to take to a friend's just to get the updates?
[04:54] <Perseus> I Just installed BT4 and it's my first time to work with Linux and I dun know where to go i dun know how to configure my LAN and My Sound Card And I Installed Some Programs Through wine but when i start them they close or crash whatever
[04:54] <Perseus> so would u plz help me
[04:54] <g0wda> I can't get to run frostwire.... it gives a big error, one line of which is: Invalid or corrupt jarfile FrostWire.jar.... I smell fish in the frostwire shell script: it contains /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrostwire.sh /home/gubatron/workspace/frostwire/builder/..//builder the path in the argument doesn't exist, infact there's no user with the name gubatron! wtf?
[04:54] <g0wda> ?
[04:55] <onexused> SeaPhor: I suppose I can.
[04:55] <syntax\> zamba
[04:55] <mase_work> chaorain: it will probably run blender but you will have a loss of screen relestate so its probably not going to be fun to use and it will be slow with large files
[04:55] <onexused> SeaPhor: Mostly, I installed Ubuntu to see if the wireless card would work with little trouble, so I could keep Ubuntu if so : )  If I have to update first, I'll try that.
[04:56] <SeaPhor> onexused, i know, its a pain, but i was lucky i could here, but that was with 8.10, what did you install?