[09:12] <Lynoure> geneo93: dapper is not bleeding edge, edgy is, at the moment
[09:12] <geneo93> na its not even hatched yet
[09:12] <geneo93> now cooker i've been working on is
[09:12] <Lynoure> geneo93: And most of the time dapper just works. Not much bleeding involved. Used to use debian unstable, not much bleeding on that either :)
[09:13] <RawSewage> how do you get out of tty1 again lol
[09:13] <RawSewage> I had to reboot
[09:13] <geneo93> well i have to sleep cyas l8r
[09:13] <RawSewage> I didnt know how to get back
[09:13] <Lynoure> RawSewage: ctrl+alt+f7
[09:13] <RawSewage> ty
[09:14] <geneo93> raw ctrl+alt+f7
[09:14] <RawSewage> tj9991, try Katapult
[09:14] <RawSewage> alt+spacebar
[09:14] <RawSewage> and start typing
[09:15] <RawSewage> you can use it to launch things, or as a calculator
[09:15] <RawSewage> you probably have to restart X to see Firefox in it though
[09:15] <RawSewage> I dont even use Firefox anymore
[09:16] <RawSewage> I use Konqueror.  I set up shortcuts for anything in it
[09:21] <RawSewage> test
[09:26] <word> how do you close a game that's locked up and is full screen?
[09:27] <Lynoure> word: go to a console, do ps x, the kill the process number
[09:28] <word> how can you do that in full screen?
[09:28] <Lynoure> word: that ctrl+alt-thing above should still work
[09:28] <word> ctrl alt what?
[09:28] <Lynoure> word: ctrl+alt+f1 for example
[09:29] <word> i'll try that quick
[09:29] <RawSewage> wait
[09:29] <RawSewage> use ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[09:29] <Lynoure> but if you are already on linux writing this... you can prolly do it there
[09:29] <Lynoure> whereever you are, as long as you get a command line
[09:29] <ralph> Hello, I am here with a stupid question (or two) How can I make the Trashcan appear on the Dapper Desktop, OR, How can I empty the Trash?
[09:30] <word> yah i just did ctrl+alt+backspace to exit out of it
[09:30] <word> but that restarts x..so not exactly a preferable method
[09:30] <Lynoure> word: Oh, then you killed the game already, most likely
[09:30] <word> and ctrl+alt+f7 returns you to kde after you do commandline?
[09:30] <word> yah it's dead :P
[09:31] <Lynoure> word: yes. But something things lock up so badly even killing x does not work. In those cases it is handy to have a ssh server on ubuntu, but that does not come installed by default.
[09:31] <Lynoure> s/something/sometimes
[09:37] <word> Lynoure: I just pressed a button and it was typing some text and no button worked to get me out of it i was playing 'nogravity'
[09:38] <RawSewage> to increase refresh rate, you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  right
[09:38] <RawSewage> if the one you want isnt avaialalbe in the gui
[09:38] <mrmist> Hi guys
[09:39] <mrmist> My screen "shakes" once in a while, and when my PC is booting, something's wring with my screen
[09:39] <mrmist> wrong
[09:39] <mrmist> I'm on a laptop
[09:40] <mrmist> Any Idea what's wrong ?
[09:40] <Lynoure> word: I have no idea what you mean. What is "it" in this context?
[09:42] <word> Lynoure: I pressed T in nogravity and it opened up a text input on th screen that i couldn't get out of
[09:44] <Lynoure> I don't even know what nogravity is...couldn't find it with apt-cache search. Some game, I guess.
[09:45] <Lynoure> mrmist: which laptop?
[09:48] <ralph> Anyone know how can I make the Trashcan appear on the Dapper Desktop, OR, How can I empty the Trash?
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !mpe
[09:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [Evil] [Ernie]
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !mp3
[09:49] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ralph
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > there should be a trashcan icon on your taskbar
[09:50] <RawSewage> there is
[09:50] <[Evil] [Ernie] > otherwise its located at trash:/
[09:50] <RawSewage> oh
[09:50] <RawSewage> sorry
[09:50] <kuzmaster> ralph, create a shortcut to trash:/ on your desktop
[09:50] <RawSewage> eww
[09:50] <kuzmaster> [Evil] [Ernie] , you beat me to it
[09:50] <RawSewage> the trash can icon is better
[09:51] <RawSewage> also, SuperKaramba has a nice trashcan thing
[09:51] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me why my taskbar rises slowly when i bring it up (it hides automaticly)
[09:51] <kuzmaster> and how to fix it
[09:52] <RawSewage> turn off autohide
[09:53] <kuzmaster> i want auto hide
[09:53] <RawSewage> you can adjust the speed
[09:53] <kuzmaster> ive tried that, that dosnt help
[09:53] <kuzmaster> dosnt do much difference
[09:53] <RawSewage> that only affects hiding?
[09:53] <kuzmaster> and the speed varies
[09:54] <RawSewage> did you adjust the bottom part
[09:54] <kuzmaster> somtimes it will be slow, others fast
[09:54] <RawSewage> Panel Animation
[09:54] <kuzmaster> ???
[09:54] <RawSewage> has a slider bar
[09:54] <RawSewage> in the Hiding section
[09:54] <kuzmaster> oh yeah, yes, thats what i changed, but it dosnt do much
[09:54] <kuzmaster> yeah, i know
[09:54] <RawSewage> what about the thing near the top
[09:54] <RawSewage> Hide Automatically
[09:54] <RawSewage> 3 seconds
[09:54] <RawSewage> oh nm
[09:55] <tj9991> sudo keeps saying "timestamp too far in the future"
[09:55] <tj9991> should I restart?
[09:55] <RawSewage> wtf
[09:56] <kuzmaster> can your search pastebin by authors?
[09:56] <RawSewage> Ive never seen that before
[09:57] <RawSewage> timestamp for what
[09:57] <Lynoure> tj9991: sudo in general, or sudo something?
[09:57] <tj9991> sudo anything
[09:58] <Lynoure> tj9991: and your clock is roughly accurate?
[09:58] <tj9991> it just updated with the time server
[09:59] <tj9991> argh
[09:59] <tj9991> ill try restarting the whole computer
[09:59] <tj9991> see what that does
[09:59] <kuzmaster> can your search pastebin by authors?, becuase i want to find somthing by imbrandon
[09:59] <imbrandon> kuzmaster,
[09:59] <imbrandon> what do you need ?
[10:00] <kuzmaster> the mods that you made to file in ~/.kde, that changes somethings in the taskbat
[10:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[10:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > how do you use apt-get again?
[10:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it just tells me invalid operation >.>
[10:01] <imbrandon> that was chavo not i
[10:01] <kuzmaster> i forget what the file is called and where it is located
[10:01] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] , sudo apt-get <command>
[10:01] <kuzmaster> i know, but you uploaded that file into pastbin
[10:01] <kuzmaster> and i need that again
[10:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > even if im logged in as root already?
[10:02] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] , why on earth would you be loggin in as root
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > aye.. just says invalid operation
[10:02] <kuzmaster> [Evil] [Ernie] , eg apt-get install ktorrent
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > for the duration of the terminal
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > forgot the install part
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thank you :)
[10:02] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] , still a bad idea but what exactly are you trying to run
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > was just trying to get a package
[10:03] <[Evil] [Ernie] > a bad idea if the boogey man were out to get me
[10:03] <kuzmaster> [Evil] [Ernie] , welcome
[10:03] <imbrandon> bad idea becouse if you type one wrong command into the terminal you can fry permissions
[10:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well i just be careful what i type :)
[10:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and if i dont know what im doing, then they would get fried anyway
[10:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > right after i typed in my password :)
[10:04] <Lynoure> I can understand people wanting to log in as root... I sometimes think I shouldn't trust full sudo to account that does all the stuff I do
[10:05] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, so can you help me with that file, i need yours again
[10:05] <kuzmaster> and the location of it
[10:05] <imbrandon> kuzmaster, i'm not on that box atm and like i said chavo set that up not i
[10:06] <kuzmaster> ok, thanx anyway
[10:06] <cipri> hi can i merge partitions?
[10:06] <imbrandon> brb
[10:06] <imbrandon> cipri, with unionfs there are ways
[10:06] <kuzmaster> brb
[10:06] <cipri> ok
[10:06] <cipri> 10x
[10:08] <Lynoure> I mean, I even install binary only stuff occasionally, could be easy to slip in a keylogger that then gets what it needs to become root very very easily
[10:10] <kuzmaster> i fixed my slowly rising tackbat problem
[10:10] <kuzmaster> taskbar**
[10:11] <kuzmaster> can i get limewire from adept?
[10:11] <tj9991> in gentoo I have coloring in my konsole window, but with ubuntu its all one color
[10:11] <tj9991> is that in the schema settings hidden somewhere, or am I not looking hard enough?
[10:12] <kuzmaster> can i install limewire via adept?
[10:13] <kuzmaster> can i?
[10:13] <kuzmaster> hmmmmmm?
[10:15] <kuzmaster> if not, then how can i install it
[10:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > whats a good player to listen to mp3's with?
[10:16] <kuzmaster> !limewire
[10:16] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:16] <kuzmaster> how do i run the runLime.sh file?
[10:17] <Lynoure> Do all users in kubuntu get the update notifications?
[10:18] <Lynoure> kuzmaster: you get it to be runnable, then do ./runLime.sh in that directory
[10:18] <Lynoure> I'm considering switching the sudo rights away from my daily user account
[10:18] <kuzmaster> how do i get it to me runable?
[10:19] <Lynoure> kuzmaster: chmod a+x runLime.sh
[10:19] <kuzmaster> ok, thanx
[10:19] <kuzmaster> now i just need to download it again
[10:19] <kuzmaster> lol
[10:21] <kuzmaster> do i need to be sudo to do chmod a+x runLime.sh?
[10:22] <kuzmaster> nm
[10:26] <tj9991> does folding@home have a apt package?
[10:28] <bob_in_florence> Just re-installed Kubuntu on the laptop. Successfull!
[10:29] <kuzmaster> bob_in_florence, congrats
[10:29] <jespert> Whats the name of the metapackage with all the development tools? (make, gcc, etc..)
[10:31] <bob_in_florence> the only think fastidious: had to copy one-by-one the .kde/share/config and /kde/share/apps files, because didn't wanted to get back the problems I had before. but nothing lost.
[10:33] <alessandro> Hello guys!
[10:35] <alessandro> I have a win Server. Which program (like Remote Desktop Connection under Windows) could be used to connect via LAN to this server from my kubuntu?
[10:35] <MetaMorfoziS> !frostwire
[10:35] <ubotu> hmm... frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[10:37] <kuzmaster> alessandro, vnc
[10:37] <kuzmaster> alessandro, you will need to download a vnc server on the win computer
[10:38] <kuzmaster> alessandro, then a vnc client/viewer program for kubuntu
[10:38] <kuzmaster> alessandro, i think kubuntu comes with one
[10:38] <alessandro> Thanks kuzmaster. I'll try it now.
[10:38] <RawSewage> tj9991, do you have any questions
[10:38] <kuzmaster> try krdc
[10:38] <alessandro> Ok
[10:38] <kuzmaster> alessandro, try krdc, its in the internet section of the kmenu
[10:39] <alessandro> Found it! Try to connect to the server now.
[10:41] <Dark_Oppressor> i just burned an installer cd for kubuntu, but when i boot to it and select run or install kubuntu, it just runs, doesnt let me install it
[10:41] <visik7> Dark_Oppressor: run it
[10:41] <tj9991> other than youtube logging me in as someone else on a fresh installation of an os, no
[10:41] <tj9991> but this youtube thing is bugging me
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> o want to install it, not run a live cd
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> i want*
[10:42] <visik7> Dark_Oppressor: and after all is loaded double click on install
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> oh i see
[10:42] <RawSewage> weird
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> well then that takes me to my next problem
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> when i try to run it, it loads up then my monitors give me an out of range thing
[10:43] <Dark_Oppressor> if i change the resolution on the boot menu before i even run it, will that change the resolution it runs in?
[10:43] <Dark_Oppressor> i think it was f4 that gives an option for resolution
[10:43] <visik7> hx
[10:43] <visik7> jz
[10:43] <visik7> k
[10:43] <visik7> sorry
[10:43] <visik7> use the alternate cd
[10:44] <visik7> text installation
[10:44] <visik7> no resolution/livecd problems
[10:44] <visik7> (and works better (for kubuntu))
[10:44] <Dark_Oppressor> ah ok
[10:44] <Dark_Oppressor> thanks
[10:45] <Dark_Oppressor> ill go grab that and give it a go
[10:49] <mrmist> I need a tips
[10:49] <mrmist> I'm compiling this app, and during compilation I get: sh: gtk-config: command not found
[10:50] <andy_> hi guys, I have a litlle problem, is someone here wo can/will help me?
[10:51] <mrmist> Don't know if I'll know, but I'll give it a shot
[10:52] <Lynoure> andy_: Hard to tell before hearing about your problem, but usually people are willing to try to help
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> got an hp deskjet 610CL trying to get working... had no problem in gnome nor did I need a driver. in setting it up, it detects and even names the printer correctly on Local par port. Builds the driver list and after selecting the correct one I get "unable to create driver: driver does not exist or you do not have correct permisssions" (im root/administrator) and yet after this error message it asks if I want to print a test page
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> d.. any suggestrions?
[10:52] <mrmist> sorry... I haven't configured printers yet
[10:53] <andy_> okay thanks. I'm new with linux, yesterday i installed kubuntu. at the installation it didn`t ask me to set the root-password. now it is set anyhow, and I dunno it. is there a default-password set which I have to change?
[10:54] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: What happens when you try to print the test page?
[10:54] <CaptainMorgan> Lynoure: - garblation
[10:54] <Lynoure> andy_: By default root in unactivated, and everythig works with sudo
[10:54] <kozz> mrmist: you need the devel packages for libgtk
[10:54] <kozz> mrmist: like libgtk1.2-dev
[10:54] <CaptainMorgan> Lynoure: garbleness and paper push until you shut it off
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> googled for drivers but apparently there are none...
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> why would I need no driver for Gnome.. yet need one for Kde?
[10:55] <andy_>  @lynoure, how can i use sudo
[10:55] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: I'm mostly a non-GUI person, so I'd start with looking at linux-printing.org and apt-getting the drivers they mention (if any)
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> Lynoure: I tried to print as a raw printer.. .same result
[10:56] <mrmist> kozz: ah... thanks :) of course I should have thought of that
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> that a valid link?
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> came up bad....
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> got
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> it
[10:57] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: it's no link but should let you find it
[10:57] <mrmist> er... still no gtk-config though...
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> omg Lynoure that's mostly an add iste
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> site
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> pay per click
[10:58] <andy_> thanks guys! byE
[10:58] <Lynoure> Settings -> Users&Groups says "The Module Users & Groups could not be loaded". Damn
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> no real links..
[10:58] <Lynoure> andy: sudo command         on command line, then your password
[10:59] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: I have no idea what you are talking about. google for linux printing
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> http://www.linux-printing.org is junk
[10:59] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: maybe it was without a - or with something else. I said it was no link
[10:59] <kozz> mrmist: strange, I got it with libgtk1.2-dev in /usr/bin/gtk-config
[11:00] <_stefan> hello, I want to ask for something to add to the next release of kubuntu
[11:01] <_stefan> more shortcuts like normaly windows also has, some like windows-key + D = Showing the Desktop
[11:01] <_stefan> or windows-key + E = showing konqueror file system
[11:02] <Lynoure> Can everyone else get Users&Groups in System settings to load?
[11:02] <alessandro> Why the fonts used in Firefox are so ugly?
[11:02] <_stefan> I know it can be configured manual but I would add it inside as standard
[11:02] <Lynoure> _stefan: I would hate having those...
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> strange too.. I found some info on www.linuxprinting.org that gives detailed info on the driver in the db - during attempting installation this driver info was the same
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> exact
[11:03] <_stefan> why? Lynoure
[11:03] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:03] <_stefan> because you aren't familiar with it
[11:03] <CaptainMorgan> can I apt-get these drivers?
[11:03] <Lynoure> _stefan: Because this is not windows :)
[11:04] <_stefan> I thaught I would have such an answer
[11:04] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:04] <_stefan> but why there is a start-menu in kde?
[11:05] <Lynoure> _stefan: It's not a start menu
[11:05] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: are you looking for help or just trolling ?
[11:05] <Lynoure> it's a KDE menu
[11:05] <_stefan> yes that's I mean, I'm not trolling
[11:05] <ArmedGeek> well, i just told you twice where to set keyboard shortcuts
[11:06] <_stefan> you've other meanings than me, because you've never used these short-cuts
[11:06] <_stefan> it's much easier
[11:06] <_stefan> thx ArmedGeek
[11:06] <CaptainMorgan> wtf after sudo dpkg --list 'hplip*' the driver is ''''''supposedly''''' on my system...
[11:07] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: and i got news for you, just because it's easy for *you* doesn't mean it's easy for *us*
[11:07] <Lynoure> _stefan: it's only easy to use the shortcuts you are familiar with. That's why it is great that they are easy to configure yourself, instead of being configured to be windowsy by someone else
[11:08] <alessandro> Where i can download kaffeine plugins for videos (avi or divx)?
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> im told to do sudo hp-setup yet hp-setup command is not found
[11:08] <andy_> can someone tell me how to install a tar.gz-file???
[11:08] <Lynoure> _stefan: There is even Windows Scheme (with win key) there for you, already
[11:09] <railk> kubuntu isn't halting my system when its shuts down, it just sits at the "will now halt" line...
[11:09] <railk> is there a bugtracker or something for kubuntu?
[11:10] <CaptainMorgan> sudo /etc/init.d/cups not found????
[11:10] <uniq> captainmorgan: cupsys
[11:11] <Lynoure> Could someone do me a favour and tell me if the can get Users&Groups from System settings to load fine?
[11:12] <uniq> lynoure: loads fine here.
[11:13] <Lynoure> uniq: thanks. For some reason mine does not... and I don't think I have done anything special about it :(
[11:13] <ArmedGeek> Lynoure: loads find here too
[11:14] <uniq> railk: yes, the bugtracker is at https://launchpad.net/malone
[11:14] <railk> uniq: thanks found it already, sorry :P
[11:15] <uniq> railk: ah, no problem :)
[11:15] <Lynoure> Any idea how I could fix it? It saying either something went wrong in an update or there is a third party module orphaned or something. I don't think there should be anything third party installed, related to the Settings
[11:15] <railk> and the bugs seems to be... not uncommon...
[11:15] <CaptainMorgan> uniq: what's the username and password? mine nor root's is working...
[11:16] <uniq> captainmorgan: try to add the cupsys user to the shadow group. 'sudo adduser cupsys shadow' from konsole. then try your username and password.
[11:16] <uniq> captainmorgan: i'm sorry to say that printing is fubar in dapper.
[11:17] <CaptainMorgan> no shit! but why??
[11:17] <CaptainMorgan> something folks forgot when dev'n?
[11:18] <l_r> hello
[11:18] <l_r> is there a chance to have 2.6.17 for kubuntu out by this evening?
[11:19] <_stefan> another question, is it easy to make .deb files for kubuntu from source-programs? Are there tutorials for that?
[11:19] <visik7> will kde 3.5.3 from kubuntu.org be updated for security fixes as fast as on official repos ?
[11:20] <visik7> _stefan: no isn't simple to make a good package it's easy to make a package for you
[11:20] <visik7> btw commonly there are all packages you want
[11:20] <uniq> captainmorgan: don't know. it's sad we have a LTS release with broken printing upon release. but that's the way it is, and we just have to find solutions and try to be positive. :)
[11:20] <uniq> l_r: not in dapper. no.
[11:20] <alessandro> Where is the repository for w32codecs?
[11:20] <l_r> uniq, never?
[11:20] <visik7> alessandro: seveas
[11:20] <uniq> visik7: no,not as fast.
[11:20] <uniq> l_r: not official.
[11:21] <Lynoure> hah, fixed the Users&Groups
[11:21] <visik7> uniq: so it's deprecated ?
[11:21] <visik7> uniq: using kde.3.5.3 ?
[11:21] <alessandro> Hi visik7, can you describe the full URL?
[11:21] <visik7> alessandro: wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:22] <alessandro> Thanks a lot!
[11:22] <uniq> visik7: 3.5.3 is not a official part of (k)ubuntu, so the ubuntu security team will not patch it and fix security issues.
[11:22] <uniq> visik7: the kubuntu developers on the other hand will try to keep them updated and secure.
[11:23] <visik7> ok so it's supported
[11:23] <uniq> lynoure: what was the problem?
[11:23] <uniq> visik7: limited support. you can say.
[11:23] <Lynoure> uniq: No idea, but debfoster:ing seemed to fix it
[11:23] <uniq> lynoure: hum.. ok :)
[11:24] <Lynoure> uniq: Mostly debfostered as a kind of meditation, you know, relaxing and useful activity. Was nice to have a side effect, though :)
[11:25] <_stefan> visik7, no I have several programs that are source and I want to make it work with apt-get, if I can
[11:25] <uniq> lynoure: heh, yes, it sounds a little bit strange though. Would be nice to know what package caused the problem.
[11:26] <visik7> _stefan: write by you ?
[11:26] <Lynoure> uniq: I agree. But I even managed to close the window with the removal list already...
[11:26] <_stefan> no, apps from kde-apps (some especialy for tv-viewing or kind of
[11:26] <uniq> lynoure: not a problem, if more people experience the problem we will figure it out somehow :)
[11:27] <visik7> _stefan: tell a name of a program
[11:29] <kuzmaster> hello all
[11:29] <febdesk> hi. I've compiled a kernel driver for a kubuntu system. How can i build a kubuntu package for such a kernel module ?
[11:30] <Lynoure> I'm kind of curious about what other people keep in their debfoster keepers
[11:30] <_stefan> if you want to install "the latest gimp / opera", or programs like katchtv
[11:31] <heinrich> hi all
[11:31] <heinrich> i forgot my mysql password
[11:31] <kuzmaster> i am installing java via adept, and after the files finish downloading, i hit the show details button (to show whats goin on)
[11:31] <heinrich> so i do wonder where kubuntu installs phpmyadmin
[11:31] <heinrich> so i can look there
[11:31] <imbrandon> kuzmaster, you cant install java via adept , its broke , do it via command line
[11:32] <kuzmaster> and theres an agreement, and its asking me to press ok, but i cant, how i do continue?
[11:32] <RawSewage> tj9991, do you have any questions
[11:32] <kuzmaster> ok
[11:32] <CaptainMorgan> uniq!!!!
[11:32] <heinrich> or any other idea to get to know my lost mysql password?
[11:32] <kuzmaster> sooo, sudo apt-get install java ?
[11:32] <tj9991> no
[11:32] <kuzmaster> what then?
[11:32] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[11:32] <ubotu> hmm... sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[11:32] <kuzmaster> ok ,thanx
[11:32] <visik7> anyone got problem with nvidia when switching to terminal ?
[11:32] <FisherP> heinrich, you won't find the passwork in the phpmyadmin or /var/www/ directory anywhere
[11:32] <uniq> captainmorgan: yes? :)
[11:33] <imbrandon> heinrich, is it a local install ?
[11:33] <CaptainMorgan> after the fourth time going thru the steps I got it working... my gawd.. that was tedious.. I guess it just takes more than expected persistence... thank goodness I had nothing else to do but keep trying..
[11:33] <heinrich> yes local  install
[11:33] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[11:34] <CaptainMorgan> otherwise I may have actually got something else done...
[11:34] <uniq> captainmorgan: great :)
[11:34] <FisherP> heinrich, check the docs on the mysql site.
[11:34] <imbrandon> heinrich, one sec
[11:34] <FisherP> heinrich i forgot my password once, but i've forgotten how i fixed it
[11:35] <CaptainMorgan> can't develop in or tweak a system in LInux without a printer... sheesh...
[11:36] <imbrandon> mysqladmin -u root password newpasshere
[11:36] <imbrandon> heinrich, ^^
[11:36] <imbrandon> btw google is your friend
[11:36] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:40] <febdesk> somebody knows module-assistant ?
[11:42] <mindspit> i installed google earth and i dont get  the main window ... and i dont know why
[11:43] <mindspit> i installed the needed fonts
[11:43] <mindspit> i use an nvidia card
[11:43] <mindspit> google earth does not recognise it
[11:44] <Healot> has you enabled the 3D acceleration?
[11:46] <mindspit>  no.... i dont know how
[11:46] <Healot> !nvidia
[11:46] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:47] <febdesk> !module
[11:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, febdesk
[11:47] <febdesk> :)
[11:47] <Healot> !m-a
[11:47] <ubotu> Healot: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:47] <Healot> !info module-assistant
[11:47] <ubotu> module-assistant: (tool to make module package creation easier), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.10.2 (dapper), Packaged size: 72 kB, Installed size: 368 kB
[11:48] <febdesk> nice
[11:48] <febdesk> still doesnt tell me how to do it from a plain tar.gz
[11:48] <uniq> febdesk: what do you need to know about module-assistant?
[11:48] <uniq> compile a module?
[11:48] <uniq> what module?
[11:49] <febdesk> uniq: i'm searching how to create a package for a driver i just built
[11:49] <febdesk> wis-go7007-linux-0.9.8
[11:49] <febdesk> it looks like module-assistant works with already existing packages
[11:49] <PenDraKon> Can someone tell me what I can use to play my movies?
[11:50] <PenDraKon> Is there a version or realplayer I can use?
[11:52] <keyne> PenDraKon: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s02.html
[11:52] <PenDraKon> cheers I will give it a go
[11:57] <heinrich> how can i make in kubuntu  switch possible to gnome and back?
[11:58] <febdesk> heinrich: after installing both gnome and kde you should have the choice in the login menu
[12:00] <heinrich> ok
[12:01] <_edward> anyone know of good tutorial for creating a custom bootsplash for Kubuntu
[12:01] <_edward> tried one and just get a grey screen
[12:03] <_edward> anyone?
[12:03] <Tonio_> _edward: yes
[12:04] <_edward> cool have a link?
[12:04] <Tonio_> _edward: depends on what botsplash you are talking about
[12:04] <_edward> seems its done alot diferent in ubuntu than Fedora
[12:04] <Tonio_> the kdm one or the usplash one ?
[12:04] <_edward> the kernel bootsplash
[12:04] <Tonio_> yes that's not easy to handle
[12:04] <_edward> but would also like to change KDE...at a later time
[12:04] <Tonio_> in fact there are no real tuto, but I have a few informations on that point
[12:05] <Tonio_> usplash takes the colors from the image palette
[12:05] <_edward> a custom one....have made the image and did the usplash stuff
[12:05] <Tonio_> so you need to use a very precise one
[12:05] <_edward> but still no go
[12:05] <Tonio_> 16 colors maximum
[12:05] <_edward> not that I need to its for my MythTv box
[12:05] <_edward> yes
[12:05] <Tonio_> the colors have an ID that you have to respect
[12:05] <_edward> did that
[12:05] <Tonio_> hum...
[12:05] <_edward> ok...maybe thats the problem
[12:06] <Tonio_> I did the image for kubuntu breezy, but someeone else did the dapper one, so I don't know if there are lots of changes
[12:06] <Tonio_> I assume the technique is somehow similar
[12:06] <Tonio_> what I would suggest is probably to base your work on the current image
[12:06] <Tonio_> and play with the palette first to make tests and understand the technique
[12:07] <_edward> OK will look closely at the images from the forum in Gimp and try to determine where to go from there
[12:07] <tobstar> hello everyone
[12:07] <tobstar>  I've got a short question: Is there a Gtk or KDE frontend to Lame that allows me to change the bitrate of existing MP3 files?
[12:07] <_edward> ty...will start there
[12:08] <_edward> having a few problems with kernel-2.6.17 too but nearly done
[12:08] <_edward> dvb problems
[12:10] <keyne> tobstar: you can do this with kaudiocreator
[12:10] <keyne> no sorry, i misread your question
[12:12] <tobstar> keyne:seriously, i couldn't find the option
[12:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> did somebody get xgl working with KDE+nvidia here?
[12:16] <Healot> keyne: KDE Menu > System Settings... Select Sound & Multimedia
[12:16] <Healot> next select Audio CD
[12:17] <Healot> and click on MP3 Encoder tab
[12:18] <podgo> i have an ati sorry
[12:19] <podgo> who can help me for a usb keyb issue
[12:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's the problem
[12:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[12:20] <podgo> on Breezy my usb keyb work well .....kernel 2.6.12-9....
[12:20] <podgo> but on dapper  since the update ...on kernel 2.6.15
[12:20] <podgo> my usb keyb doesnt work anymore !
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> podgo: try check if udev is enabled
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> installed*
[12:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i did the upgrade, hotplug have been uninstalled, but udev, his replacement, didn't install
[12:23] <tobstar> keyne:ok, I've got files with a 128kb rate and I want to "downrate" them to 64kb. where is that option in kaudiocreator
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> podgo: futhermore try to change the usb and check the output of "dmsg" when you plug/unplug the key
[12:24] <Healot> apt-get isntall udev >> if udev isn;t installed
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> at least you know if it has been revealed
[12:24] <podgo> ....i restart on the bad kernel ..to try it
[12:25] <febdesk> what happened to hotplug ?
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it became obsolete
[12:25] <febdesk> particularly /etc/hotplug
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and it have been replaced by hotplug
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> by udev*
[12:25] <Healot> popularity-contest
[12:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> haha, pop-contest? didn't know about that :)
[12:26] <febdesk> and the little "scripts" that went into /etc/hotplug go into /etc/udev ?
[12:26] <visik7> usplash conflicts with nvidia restricted driver on my 7400
[12:26] <visik7> :)
[12:26] <podgo> udev is still installed
[12:26] <podgo> on my computer
[12:27] <podgo> so it's not the solution .../:
[12:27] <podgo> poor usb keyb:
[12:27] <scorpion007> podgo: have you got a usb mouse too?
[12:27] <podgo> yes i have a usb mouse
[12:27] <scorpion007> does it work?
[12:27] <podgo> and it works wall :p
[12:27] <podgo> well:p
[12:28] <podgo> so amazing this  dapper update
[12:29] <scorpion007> unplug and plug back your keyboard then run 'dmesg' in a console
[12:30] <VincentMX> yo
[12:30] <scorpion007> does the event get detected by the system?
[12:34] <podgo> i ll give you the dmesg just one second
[12:37] <ddh> #ubuntu-de
[12:39] <podgo> http://podgo.free.fr/dmesgkeyb
[12:40] <podgo> if anyone want to help me ?!
[12:41] <uniq> podgo: what's the problem?
[12:41] <Healot> the keyboard is there
[12:41] <podgo> but it doesn't work ....so why !
[12:41] <podgo> in X and in console mode
[12:41] <podgo> and still working when i boot on the old kernel
[12:41] <podgo> :/
[12:42] <Healot> you use USB-PS/2 converter?
[12:42] <Healot> take that of and plug it into a USB port
[12:43] <MadMerC> hi can anyone tell me how to start dekorator ??
[12:43] <podgo> my keyb is on the ps2 interface i use a converter to make it work on my laptop...which can offers only usb port :
[12:44] <Healot> try a real USB keyboard perhaps
[12:45] <uniq> podgo: you said it works on the old kernel?
[12:45] <podgo> yes
[12:45] <podgo> it works !
[12:45] <uniq> on the new kernel too?
[12:45] <MadMerC> im trying to install a theme called underworld evolution but when i put it in with kcontrol and the theme manager in there it just locks the kcontrol up and when i restart x only part of the theme is working can anyone help ??
[12:46] <podgo> no ! ...on the new kernel pbmes !
[12:46] <podgo> i use the new kernel for my sound card....
[12:46] <podgo> but no usb keyb is not a good deal
[12:47] <uniq> ok. only works on the old kernel. that's a regression. not good
[12:47] <VincentMX> why can't i burn mp3?
[12:47] <MadMerC> !themes
[12:47] <Healot> VincentMX: as CD Audio? or as regular file?
[12:47] <VincentMX> CD Audio
[12:48] <Healot> !mp3
[12:48] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:48] <Healot> btw
[12:48] <VincentMX> thnx
[12:50] <Healot> burn it as file, rtfm
[12:50] <uniq> podgo: could it be related to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/36119
[12:51] <podgo> when i unplug and plug it doesn't work  !:/
[12:54] <juanfe> hello all
[12:55] <uniq> podgo: is the 'usbkbd' module loaded? you can check with 'sudo lsmod|grep -i usbkbd'
[12:55] <uniq> hi juanfe.
[12:55] <podgo> also done ...not work :p that was my first trying ...
[12:56] <juanfe> anyone knows how to change kernel version from i386 to i686. By default has been installed i386 kernel
[12:56] <uniq> podgo: is it loaded?
[12:56] <podgo> yes
[12:56] <podgo> i load it myself
[12:56] <podgo> try to recompile or apt-cache seach kernel i686 the install the great one
[12:56] <uniq> podgo: ok, remove it and reload it: 'sudo rmmod usbkbd;sudo modprobe usbkbd'
[12:57] <uniq> juanfe: from konsole run this command: 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686'
[12:57] <juanfe> podgo: but whats the diference between this two versions?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> juanfe: 686 is optimised for your kernel
[12:58] <podgo> optimisation
[12:58] <podgo> so if u ahve an amd cpu try k7
[12:58] <juanfe> thanks
[12:59] <juanfe> I'm going to do that. Chao
[12:59] <podgo> k bye
[12:59] <podgo> me i try to install a new kernel lol
[01:00] <MetaMorfoziS> so if i have amd, i need to install linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7?
[01:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and it's faster than the 386?
[01:02] <podgo> yes
[01:02] <podgo> some routine are faster
[01:03] <MetaMorfoziS> has it any possible warning?
[01:04] <podgo> no
[01:04] <podgo> ...argh still not working keyb :d
[01:04] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[01:04] <MetaMorfoziS> after i installed it's shown in grub?
[01:04] <podgo> yes
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> cool
[01:19] <cox377> Hey all
[01:20] <ArmedGeek> cox377: morning
[01:20] <umberleigh> does anyone know if it's possible to get totem to stop kscreensaver, so that kscreensaver doesn't activate whilst totem is playing a movie?
[01:22] <podgo> bye*
[01:25] <Adam_eM> hi there
[01:25] <cox377> Does anyone share network drives/folders over a network from kubuntu?
[01:26] <Adam_eM> i've installed kubuntu grub splash images package, and when i am trying to use another than default crystal, it has reversed colours
[01:38] <CaptainMorgan> does Matlab run on LInux or iis there a similar app?
[01:40] <ArmedGeek> CaptainMorgan: http://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/requirements.html
[01:42] <smanen> can anyone tell me the installation path of konqueror?
[01:42] <smanen> i tried dpkg -L konqueror
[01:42] <apol> smanen: its /usr
[01:43] <apol> smanen: i can't use private
[01:44] <smanen> ok sorry
[01:44] <apol> you don't need the konqi's path for installing flash
[01:44] <smanen> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[01:44] <smanen> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/share/apps/konqueror/
[01:44] <apol> hmm
[01:45] <smanen> maybe it can't be installed on konq
[01:45] <apol> that's ok
[01:45] <smanen> just on these 3
[01:45] <apol> you'd better install it across apt
[01:45] <smanen> how can i know the name of the package in apt?
[01:45] <apol> aptitude search flash
[01:46] <apol> you need to have multiverse in the sources BTW
[01:46] <smanen> i'm quite new
[01:46] <smanen> what does it mean?
[01:47] <apol> !multiverse
[01:47] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:48] <apol> it's for being able to install privative packages
[01:48] <smanen> ah
[01:48] <smanen> i understand now
[01:48] <smanen> thx a lot
[01:48] <smanen> ^^
[01:48] <apol> :)
[01:48] <cox377> does anyone here share drives from their kubuntu machine?
[01:49] <apol> cox377: do you mean in SMB?
[01:49] <cox377> yeh
[01:49] <apol> you can use smb4k i think
[01:49] <cox377> how do u go about that?
[01:49] <cox377> i've installed samba
[01:49] <cox377> i've tried adding a folder
[01:50] <cox377> but when ever i try and connect to that drive from another drive it asks me for a user name and password
[01:50] <apol> it might be the username an password
[01:50] <cox377> yeh but i have no idea what it is
[01:50] <Kmirno> yes it might ...
[01:50] <cox377> i've tried everything
[01:52] <CaptainMorgan> thanks ArmedGeek any similar apps available with Linux tho?
[02:01] <darich> hey all
[02:01] <darich> just installed Kubuntu alongside Ubuntu
[02:01] <darich> quite impressed so far
[02:02] <darich> different to Gnome
[02:02] <tommy> I bet...
[02:02] <darich> runs Amarok niiiice tho
[02:03] <darich> the blueness is kinda suprising
[02:03] <darich> more like windows
[02:04] <darich> well the best bits of windows
[02:04] <cox377> seriously, someone must be sharing drives?
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> Kubuntu is different than Gnome!?
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> omgosh
[02:07] <darich> heh
[02:07] <darich> yah
[02:07] <darich> sure is purty
[02:08] <cox377> does anyone in here know about samba?
[02:08] <darich> ;)
[02:08] <uniq> cox377: yes i do.
[02:08] <cox377> uniq: hello mate, can i run through a few things please because i'm getting no where
[02:09] <uniq> cox377: sure.
[02:09] <uniq> cox377: i'm looking after my kid, so i might just disappear on you. If she needs my attention.
[02:09] <cox377> to start with i'm trying to share a few drives within my kubuntu system to be views and written to
[02:09] <cox377> I've installed samba
[02:10] <cox377> i've shared the drives,
[02:10] <cox377> when i try and add the drives from a windows machine it asks me for a user name and password.. i dont have any clue what this U&P is and i've tried everyone that i've set up on this machine which is only one.. this account
[02:10] <uniq> ah. yes.
[02:11] <cox377> when i try and connect to that same drive from the same local kubuntu machine it also asks me for the U&P
[02:11] <l_r> direct rendering: No      <-- I have a matrox g400. accelaration seems to be unsupported. any idea?
[02:11] <uniq> first; you need to create the username as a account on the kubuntu machine.
[02:11] <cox377> do u mean the user name i use to log into this machine?
[02:11] <uniq> cox377: then, 'smbpasswd -a username'
[02:12] <cox377> in the terminal?
[02:12] <uniq> cox377: yes, you need to have a user on the kubuntu machine.
[02:12] <uniq> let's just do it with your user first, shall we?
[02:13] <cox377> yup, sounds good
[02:13] <cox377> right i;ve entered that into the temrinal
[02:13] <uniq> say you have username 'cox' and you use cox/secretpass when you logon to KDE.
[02:13] <cox377> and it's given me some options
[02:13] <uniq> now,open a konsole, and type 'sudo smbpasswd -a cox'
[02:13] <uniq> it will not ask for a password.
[02:13] <l_r> direct rendering: No      <-- I have a matrox g400. accelaration seems to be unsupported. any idea?
[02:14] <uniq> this is where you set the password to be used when accessing samba shares.
[02:15] <Tonio_> uniq: maybe you can gelp me
[02:15] <Tonio_> is there a way to have kontact or kmail to sit in the systray like konversation ?
[02:15] <cox377> uniq: done that, is there anything more i need to do mate?
[02:15] <defrysk> Tonio_, kmail yes
[02:16] <uniq> tonio_: hmm.. not that i know from the top of my head.
[02:16] <defrysk> its in the settings ofkmail
[02:16] <cox377> uniq: your a legend.. it worked
[02:16] <cox377> :                 (
[02:16] <cox377> :                      )
[02:17] <uniq> cox377: this is all that is needed to give your user access to the samba share. Now if you need to add more users, you'll need to add them in system settings -> users & groups first. (or with 'sudo adduser' in konsole). and then repeat the 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' in konsole to set the samba password.
[02:17] <defrysk> Tonio_, configure appearance systemtry tab
[02:17] <uniq> cox377: be aware that the samba password will expire after some time.
[02:17] <Tommy2k4> oo a new linux kernel?
[02:18] <Tonio_> uniq: great :)
[02:18] <Tonio_> defrysk: works, thanks :)
[02:18] <defrysk> Tonio_, great :)
[02:18] <Tonio_> sad it doesn't work with kontact....
[02:18] <uniq> defrysk: neat feature. I'll enable it too.
[02:18] <uniq> tonio_: thanks for the idea :)
[02:18] <defrysk> kmail rocks imho
[02:19] <cox377> uniq: thats brilliant, how long roughly does the password last? and secondly is there anyway to make these shares public to anyone on the network without having to add a password and user name?
[02:19] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:20] <Tonio_> great, seems to be working with kontact too, as long as the parameter is set in kmail ;)
[02:21] <uniq> cox377: you can add guest users. and map to gyests.
[02:22] <cox377> but u cant have it as a free to all drive?
[02:24] <cox377> basically i;m lookign to put a share drive that anyone can take/dump things onto
[02:26] <uniq> cox377: ok, yes, just hang on, have to fix a vserver for a customer.
[02:29] <cox377> :            )
[02:29] <cox377> cheers uniq
[02:34] <Trackilizer> To see hinden files on gnome one has to press "Ctrl + H", what do you have to do in KDE?
[02:35] <nico8481> Trackilizer: "view" menu > show hidden files
[02:35] <uniq> trackilizer: don't think there is a default shortcut for it: in konqueror go to settings -> configure shortcuts. search for 'show hidden' and set a shortcut.
[02:35] <Trackilizer> Ok, thanks guys.
[02:38] <Tommy2k4> is there any reason for a newbie like me to update to the new linux kernel
[02:38] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: as in, 2.6.16?  no
[02:38] <cox377> uniq: sorry i dont know if you answered but i had to restart
[02:40] <tuxcicles> Tommy2k4: depends on your processor
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> p3
[02:40] <BoD[] > Hello !
[02:40] <BoD[] > Hey... How does one install mp3 support under kubuntu?
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> !mp3
[02:40] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:41] <tuxcicles> Tommy2k4: linux-i686 would probably be for you
[02:41] <BoD[] > oh thank you very much
[02:41] <Tommy2k4> should i upgrade tho
[02:42] <Hobbsee> !blah
[02:42] <ubotu> Hobbsee: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:42] <Frederick> folks one doub does that java install mentioned in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper allows me to actually create java apps?
[02:43] <Tommy2k4> Hobbsee, i thought the latest kernel was 2.6.17?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: er, it's going into edgy.  probably not worth it
[02:44] <Tommy2k4> k
[02:45] <Tommy2k4> any way to add right click context menus such as extract here for archives
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: they're already there
[02:45] <tuxcicles> Frederick: SDK version maybe
[02:45] <Tommy2k4> god damnit how could i not realise that
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: did you find it?
[02:46] <MidMark> hi to all
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> yep
[02:46] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> why does it take agessss to delete a file
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> the progress dialogue stays on 0% for ages
[02:46] <Frederick> tuxcicles: so I unsinstall my current sun-java5-jre?
[02:46] <BoD[] > hey.. I'm trying to install mp3 support, but I don't see the libxine-extracodecs package in Adept. What should I do?
[02:46] <MidMark> I have an unanswered question: with an Athlon64 which of these kernels is better apart amd64? i386, i686 or k7?
[02:47] <Frederick> BoD[] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <tuxcicles> Frederick: yea, don't think you need it, read up on sdk, cus I don't write java :(
[02:47] <Hobbsee> BoD[] : enable multiverse
[02:48] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[02:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:49] <MidMark> someone have an answer for me?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> MidMark: k7.  apt-cache show linux-image-k7
[02:50] <tuxcicles> MidMark: !easysource
[02:50] <BoD[] > thank you very much
[02:51] <MidMark> Hobbsee: ok thanx I know how to install k7 kernel just want to know the best 32 bit kernel for my processor
[02:51] <Frederick> folks I give ubuntu a big 10 for usability
[02:51] <MidMark> Hobbsee: why is always i386 installed by default?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> MidMark: er...if it's an amd64 you want the k7 one, if it's a celeron/p* one, use the 686
[02:52] <Hobbsee> MidMark: i'm not exactly sure...
[02:52] <pcfan> System tray icons are missing using compiz on kde
[02:52] <sponix> Frederick: you should, my wife hates computers, knows nothing about them -- And likes ubuntu/kubuntu because it just "works"
[02:52] <MidMark> pcfan: compiz under kde is very annoying
[02:52] <tuxcicles> MidMark: it handles most processors
[02:52] <uniq> cox377: ok,i'm back.
[02:53] <MidMark> tuxcicles: I know but a processor recnognize can be possible, then choose the right kernel
[02:53] <Tommy2k4> is there something like netlimiter for linux
[02:53] <pcfan> MidMark : yes, I know, but still, can I do something like starting compiz before kicker?
[02:53] <pcfan> and here is another question: how do I start compiz before kicker?
[02:53] <MidMark> pcfan: I've tried it and also with superkaramba it shows every theme like an apps opened
[02:54] <Hobbsee> MidMark: i agree with you, i think they have trouble with cd space if they include all the kernels on there though
[02:54] <MidMark> Hobbsee: used dvd ;)
[02:54] <Hobbsee> should be on there then - but they dont hvae a different installer for cd/dvd
[02:54] <pcfan> MidMark: I have no problems with compiz and karamba, just with the systray: if I restart the systray applet, all the icons are shown
[02:55] <MidMark> Hobbsee: exactly, they test only cd not dvd, I have also the language bug, no italian installed at all (dvd contains it)
[02:55] <Frederick> sponix: I come from gentoo I wouldn't say that is human friendly
[02:55] <MidMark> Hobbsee: this is not so nice
[02:55] <Hobbsee> actually, they do test both cd and dvd
[02:55] <Hobbsee> that italian bit is a bug though
[02:56] <MidMark> Hobbsee: yes of course, but dvd is tested less than cd for me, also english is always tested more when languages other than en are very important
[02:56] <sponix> I've been using *nix flavors since 1996, and can't say I'd put my wife, uncle, and mother on Linux back then
[02:57] <uniq> cox377: i recommend reading http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm there's a section for access free to all or something. Will probably be faster than me telling you what to do :)
[02:57] <Hobbsee> MidMark: of course.  that's why we need people who speak other languages as our testers too...
[02:57] <MidMark> Hobbsee: the problem is I have reported the bug 2 or 3 weeks before the release and it was ignored
[02:58] <cox377> uniq: i'm extremely greatful for your help,
[02:58] <sponix> love how they made the installer a livecd now
[02:58] <sponix> thats a great idea
[02:58] <Hobbsee> MidMark: what did you file it under?  do you have the bug number?
[02:59] <pcfan> Does someone know a program that can be instead of the systray applet in kde panels ?
[02:59] <yanis> apt-get give me this output:E: The package libgnome2-vfs-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! . how can I fix it?
[02:59] <uniq> cox377: happy to be helpful :)
[02:59] <Hobbsee> MidMark: and i doubt it was ignored, unless it was in the wrong place - it may have been delayed, or something, but not ignored
[03:00] <Hobbsee> yanis: er...can you pastebin the entire message please?  or is that all of use?
[03:00] <uniq> yanis: did you try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgnome2-vfs-perl' in konsole?
[03:00] <cox377> just one more things while i am here, does anyone know how to change the defaul mail client from kmail to thunderbird, E.G when i right click on something and go send as mail
[03:00] <Hobbsee> cox377: system settings, kde components
[03:00] <yanis> Hobbsee: that's all. it gives the same message when trying to do anything in apt-get
[03:01] <MidMark> Hobbsee: still needs info, reported on april!!!
[03:01] <MidMark> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/39483
[03:01] <Hobbsee> yanis: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[03:01] <yanis> uniq: I get the same message
[03:02] <sponix> Frederick: and being able to install Oracle on ubuntu easily adds to the fun also
[03:02] <Hobbsee> MidMark: you left it at needs info - if it needs info, you give the info, and change it back to whatever it was before
[03:02] <pcfan> Does someone know a program that can be used instead of the kicker systray ?
[03:02] <yanis> hah,Hobbsee this command is going to reconfigure the whole system?
[03:02] <Hobbsee> MidMark: they would have assumed that you'd not gone back to the bug at all
[03:03] <Hobbsee> *changes status on it*
[03:03] <Hobbsee> yanis: it might be sudo dpkg --configure -a that i mean
[03:03] <MidMark> Hobbsee: don't know it if none tell me this!
[03:03] <Hobbsee> the one that i wanted doesnt
[03:03] <Frederick> sponix: ubuntu is becomming a real enterprise distro
[03:03] <Hobbsee> MidMark: true
[03:03] <MidMark> Hobbsee: thanx now I'll do it
[03:03] <Hobbsee> MidMark: i just changed it for you
[03:04] <cox377> hobbsee: cheers for that, changed both default browser and mail client, restarted KDE and firefox has worked but not thunderbird
[03:04] <Hobbsee> cox377: define "not worked"
[03:04] <MidMark> ok
[03:04] <Hobbsee> MidMark: have a look at it to see what was different
[03:05] <pcfan> Does someone know how can I lunch the systray applet from command line ?
[03:05] <MidMark> Hobbsee: seen your comment
[03:05] <cox377> hobbsee: sorry it just tried opening kmail still
[03:05] <Hobbsee> MidMark: did you see the status change?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> pcfan: er, type kicker?
[03:06] <MidMark> Hobbsee: yes, but can I put confirmed to my bugs? I don't think so
[03:06] <Hobbsee> cox377: hmmm...did you type thunderbird or mozilla-thunderbird in there, and did it get selected as a custom app, not just left at the default?  havent played with it in a while
[03:06] <pcfan> Not this way Hobbsee, just the applet itself.... I need it to be started after compiz
[03:06] <Hobbsee> MidMark: no you cant
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> im trying to install kdevmon but it says i need kdelibs4 :s
[03:06] <sponix> Frederick: enterprise support is nice, as long as they stick with the goal to make ubuntu the most widely spread (free), and easiest to use -- I'm happy
[03:06] <Hobbsee> pcfan: oh ok
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: install kdelibs4-dev
[03:07] <MidMark> Hobbsee: exactly so the next time I have to put what? Unconfirmed?
[03:07] <cox377> hobbsee: i selected it from the application list
[03:07] <Tommy2k4> kdelibs4-dev is already the newest version.
[03:07] <Hobbsee> MidMark: yeah, change it to unconfirmed
[03:07] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: install kdelibs4?
[03:08] <Tommy2k4> Package kdelibs4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:08] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: install kdelibs4c2a
[03:08] <Tommy2k4> it says i have newest version
[03:08] <Hobbsee> forgot about that - knew there was something suss about that
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !info kdevmod
[03:08] <cox377> uniq: i dont suppose it would be at all poss to show me the link again please as link a moron when i restarted KDE i forgot to book mark first
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !info kdevmon dapper
[03:09] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: where are you installing kdevmon from
[03:09] <uniq> cox377: i recommend reading http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm there's a section for access free to all or something. Will probably be faster than me telling you what to do :)
[03:09] <uniq> cox377: there you go :)
[03:09] <Tommy2k4> http://debian.creativa.cl/debian/woody/kdevmon/Packages
[03:09] <cox377> : )
[03:09] <ru> lo all
[03:09] <Tommy2k4> unless you know another gui app that can do it
[03:10] <ru> On my box I have to actually type "apache2" to run apache2, how would I make it start on boot?
[03:10] <ru> I know I can edit my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file, but thats a bit dirty isnt it?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: you shouldnt be installing from woody repositories, or other debian repositories.  particularly with woody being so old in comparison to ubuntu
[03:10] <Tommy2k4> copy the .desktop to ~/kde/Autorun
[03:10] <Tommy2k4> i didnt even know what woody was lol
[03:10] <uniq> ru: did you install it from the repositories?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: it's a really old debian release, i think
[03:11] <Tommy2k4> k
[03:11] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: grab the source of kdevmon
[03:11] <ru> uniq, yes I used apt-get i believe
[03:11] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdevmon
[03:12] <ru> uniq, but i think i messed it up a little cos i installed apache & apache2 and then removed apache, if i remember correctly
[03:12] <uniq> ru: then edit /etc/default/apache2 and set NO_START=0
[03:12] <ru> cool
[03:12] <ru> thanks
[03:13] <uniq> you're welcome.
[03:15] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: seen knetload?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12351&forummode=2&forumpage=0&forumexplevel=2
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> Hobbsee, it doesn't look like it can limit specific apps?
[03:18] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: i've got no idea, but according to one of those comments, kdevmon segfaults on 2.6.x kernels, which is probably why it's not in later debian versions
[03:19] <Tommy2k4> oh well ill try installing it anyway
[03:19] <Tommy2k4> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:21] <Hobbsee> !kdeheaders
[03:21] <sponix> k3b kicks ass
[03:21] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[03:22] <BoD[] > hey
[03:22] <uniq> tommy2k4: get kdelibs4-dev
[03:23] <BoD[] > I have an ati aiw radeon 8500 dv
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> already have newsest version
[03:23] <ru> Whenever my Kde starts it launches 2 KFTP's - I can
[03:23] <ru> I can't figure out why*
[03:23] <BoD[] > and for some reason the fglrx driver doesn't seem to work
[03:24] <uniq> ru: you probably had them open once when you logged out or something.
[03:24] <uniq> ru: if you close them logout,and re-login they should be gone.
[03:24] <cox377> is there a command that could be used which scans a network for clients by IP or something of sorts?
[03:25] <ru> uniq: Thats what I thought, I have tried closing them and restarting KDE - but they just come back lol
[03:27] <ru> whats this auto start path: /home/ru/.kde/Autostart/
[03:27] <ru> I see there is a .directory file in there, but I cant really make much sense of it?
[03:28] <jarlath> I cant play games fullscreen, the image seems to overlap itself. I've googled and I think I just need to tell xorg.conf to support that particular resolution at  my color depth. I thought I edited my xorg.conf properly but the situation is still the same. Can anyone help?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> ru: yes, just stick links to any programs you want to run in there
[03:30] <Tommy2k4> well i found something called trickle but i think its cli only and cant figure out how to use it
[03:31] <uniq> ru: the .directory doesn't start your kftps.
[03:31] <jarlath> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716417
[03:33] <uniq> tommy2k4: what do you need? a bandwidth shaper?
[03:33] <Aapzak> goodday
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> yes
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> preferably with a gui
[03:34] <uniq> tommy2k4: i can recommend wondershaper, no gui but very simple and easy to use.
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> and that i can turn it on and off without having to reopen the app which i think trickle does
[03:35] <Aapzak> Does anyone inhere if there is an easy way to generate a kde popup/notifier with a text I provide?
[03:35] <Aapzak> inhere know :)
[03:36] <jarlath> Aapzak, this months Tux magazine has an article on that!
[03:37] <Aapzak> brilliant
[03:37] <Tommy2k4> is that possible uniq ?
[03:38] <ru> uniq: Hmm i didnt think so - what does it do?
[03:39] <uniq> tommy2k4: yes. it works like this: 'wondershaper eth1 500 100' sets down speed on eth1 to 500k and up speed to 100k.
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> i only need it to limit specific apps
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> and only at certain times without having to restart the app
[03:40] <uniq> tommy2k4: ahh.. then wondershaper isn't for you.
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> maybe its not possible due to the way linux is? i dunno
[03:41] <uniq> tommy2k4: everything is possible due to the way linux is.
[03:41] <Tommy2k4> lol
[03:41] <Tommy2k4> i think netlimiter hooks into the winsock dll so that all traffic goes through netlimiter and i can tick a box whether to limit a certain app or not
[03:42] <Aapzak> jarlath: thanks, I'll look it up, I assume its an online magazine?
[03:42] <MAW_away> Someone here who know smth about lmms?
[03:42] <uniq> maw_away: i know it's a music making app, that's about it :)
[03:42] <MAW_away> Ooookay... I think that is not enough ;)
[03:43] <MAW_away> I have probs compiling it wiht vst
[03:43] <uniq> ru: it tells KDE that it's the Autostart dir. basically.
[03:43] <MAW_away> because of missing vst headers...
[03:43] <MAW_away> But the Location where I should get them gave me an 404 error.
[03:43] <MAW_away> :)
[03:43] <uniq> maw_away: what is vst?
[03:44] <MAW_away> lol
[03:44] <MAW_away> Okay toooooo less knowledge to helpo me :)
[03:44] <MAW_away> moment
[03:44] <uniq> maw_away: can't you use the packages provided in the repositories?
[03:44] <MAW_away> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology
[03:45] <MAW_away> I could, but those are OLD and without vst
[03:46] <MAW_away> compiling without vst works fine
[03:47] <uniq> you need libvst then i guess.
[03:47] <ru> uniq: Cool - thanks again
[03:48] <TechHut> hi everyone
[03:48] <MAW_away> uniq: thanks. But you do not have enough knowledge about that stuff to help me here... but thanks for you heloing me
[03:49] <TechHut> what is your problem?
[03:49] <TechHut> i might be able to help
[03:49] <uniq> maw_away: i bet i have enought knowledge to help you, do you want me to make packages for you too? :)
[03:49] <MAW_away> TechHut: with lmms?
[03:49] <TechHut> I don't think I can with lmms
[03:50] <MAW_away> Ah. K thx
[03:50] <TechHut> to be honest, I don't know what it even is
[03:50] <TechHut> sorry
[03:51] <uniq> maw_away: i'll have a look later. Now it's dinner.
[03:51] <MAW_away> uniq: Please, I do not want to hit on you. But I garantee you there is no libvst (funny idea) in any respositorie... Yeah, If you find out somethin, let me know!
[03:53] <sangers> test
[03:56] <cox377> haha just installed wine
[03:56] <cox377> amazing
[04:15] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[04:16] <uniq> maw_away: here you go: http://wiki.mindrules.net/doku.php?id=documentation:installation
[04:19] <chess> anybody have solution for error no c compiler for path$
[04:19] <uniq> chess: install the 'build-essential'  package.
[04:20] <heinkel_111> can someone help me with an fstab question?
[04:20] <uniq> heinkel_111: yes.
[04:20] <heinkel_111> i have problem automounting my cdrom and dvd
[04:20] <slow-motion> bye
[04:20] <uniq> heinkel_111: ok. please paste the contents of /etc/fstab to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:20] <uniq> bye slow-motion.
[04:21] <chess> uniq: apt-get install build-essential?
[04:21] <MAW_away> uniq: NO, realy?!
[04:21] <uniq> chess: yes.
[04:21] <heinkel_111> uniq: yes i was just coming to that..on second :)
[04:21] <MAW_away> Have you tried the links to Steinbergs VST SDK
[04:21] <uniq> maw_away: no, that's your job :)
[04:21] <Frederick> do I need anything extran than libk3b2-mp3 to listen mp3?
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <MAW_away> I have probs compiling it wiht vst
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <uniq> ru: it tells KDE that it's the Autostart dir. basically.
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <MAW_away> because of missing vst headers...
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <MAW_away> But the Location where I should get them gave me an 404 error.
[04:22] <jpatrick> Frederick: No, that's for burning mp3s
[04:22] <Frederick> jpatrick: :p what do I need to listen them?
[04:22] <MAW_away> Reading could be an advantage
[04:22] <chess> uniq: says E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[04:22] <uniq> maw_away: ok. i don't remember that detailed. sorry.
[04:23] <MAW_away> ...
[04:23] <jpatrick> !mp3
[04:23] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:23] <jpatrick> Frederick: ^
[04:23] <MAW_away> !lmms
[04:23] <ubotu> MAW_away: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <MAW_away> :)
[04:23] <Frederick> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[04:23] <Flosoft> hey
[04:23] <heinkel_111> uniq: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716482 ... is it correct that fielsystem type for /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd should be udf,iso9660
[04:23] <heinkel_111> ?
[04:24] <Flosoft> is it possible to synch accounts with KDE (Linux)
[04:24] <Flosoft> Like a Domain Server and a Client?
[04:24] <jpatrick> Frederick: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[04:24] <uniq> heinkel_111: if you want cd and dvd to be automounted remove the lines from fstab.
[04:24] <heinkel_111> completely?
[04:24] <heinkel_111> ok..i will try it!
[04:24] <Flosoft> like synch my home folder
[04:24] <Flosoft> ?
[04:24] <uniq> heinkel_111: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716483
[04:25] <heinkel_111> ok
[04:25] <Frederick> thanks
[04:25] <heinkel_111> uniq: thank you...proceeding to test lab!
[04:26] <Slappy> hi all
[04:26] <jpatrick> Frederick: no prob
[04:27] <uniq> maw_away: ok, here are the files: http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/vstserver-0.3.1.tar.bz2
[04:28] <uniq> maw_away: they are in vstserver-0.3.1/include/vst/
[04:30] <cox377> haha.. who here knows about the emulator wine ;         )
[04:31] <MAW_away> uniq: Looks not bad until know....
[04:31] <MAW_away> where do you get this information?
[04:32] <cox377> does anyone know the default directory that wine installs to
[04:33] <ru> Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[04:34] <ru> I am getting that error in apache
[04:34] <ru> I checked my /etc/apache2/modules.conf and added rewrite there
[04:34] <ru> and restarted apache, but nothing
[04:34] <heinkel_111> uniq: I still have problems
[04:34] <cox377> found it
[04:35] <heinkel_111> uniq: I updated the fstab, then did check /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd was not mounted
[04:35] <dr_willis> you did mount the drives after editing the fstab?
[04:35] <heinkel_111> then did mount -a to put the new fstab into use
[04:35] <dr_willis> or rebooted... or ran mount -a ?
[04:35] <Tommy2k4> amarok crashed yet again :(
[04:35] <dr_willis> ok. heh.
[04:35] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: did my two lines answer your question? ;)
[04:36] <dr_willis> next tiem be quicker about it! :P
[04:36] <heinkel_111> I am slow :(
[04:36] <dr_willis> of course i dont know what the original propblem is :P
[04:36] <heinkel_111> unable to mount my cds and dvds :(
[04:36] <dr_willis> right now MY ubuntu system is failing to boot right.. not sure if it was due to last nioghts updates or not
[04:36] <dr_willis> Music cds?
[04:37] <heinkel_111> yes
[04:37] <dr_willis> hmm you dont mount music cd's
[04:37] <heinkel_111> it worked perfectly in breezy
[04:37] <Frederick> folks isnt there a url for nvidia guide?
[04:37] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:37] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:37] <heinkel_111> but now I got dapper there is a problem
[04:37] <Tommy2k4> you mount the drive not the actual cd
[04:38] <dr_willis> Im not sure why you would want to mount a music cd
[04:38] <Tommy2k4> i think?
[04:38] <dr_willis> lets get to the ROOT of the problem.
[04:38] <dr_willis> :P
[04:38] <dr_willis> you are trying to play a music cd?
[04:38] <heinkel_111> Tommy2k4: I was advised not to have entries for hdd and hdc (the DVD and CDRW drive) in my /etc/fstab
[04:38] <heinkel_111> yes I am
[04:39] <heinkel_111> or to be more precise
[04:39] <heinkel_111> dr: willis
[04:39] <dr_willis> the music cdrom is /dev/hdc  and the dvd drive is /dev/dvd eh?
[04:39] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: to access any file on those bloody drives is the problem
[04:39] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: it is other way round
[04:39] <dr_willis> heinkel_111,  well  mounting a data drive - is one thing.. :P playing music is another
[04:40] <dr_willis> you cant manually mount data disks either?
[04:40] <kbuntunewb> hey all!
[04:40] <heinkel_111> isn't it a prerequisiste I can at least see the files before playing?
[04:40] <dr_willis> heinkel_111,  NO.
[04:40] <dr_willis> not in the least
[04:41] <dr_willis> the ability to see the 'music' files on a music cd. is a little bit of a programing/software gimmic.
[04:41] <heinkel_111> ok
[04:41] <dr_willis> to play a music cd.. you should be able to tell the cd player the exact location of the cdrom drive   and it should be able to play them without the drive being mounted
[04:42] <heinkel_111> but it doesn't really help if the gimmick doesnot work :P
[04:42] <uniq>    heinkel_111 you'll need to restart dbus. Reboot is probably the easiest way to get it all going.
[04:42] <dr_willis> the point is - we are tryign to make.. you dont have to mount music cd's
[04:42] <uniq> that's correct.
[04:42] <heinkel_111> yes but what if the same drive gets loaded with a data disk?
[04:43] <heinkel_111> it is nice to be a little versatile :P
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[04:43] <uniq> then you should have a window popup and ask you what to do.
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> just tried it there and it worked fine
[04:43] <kbuntunewb> hey guys... how do i install/compile a software in kubuntu? (bare with my terminology, i'm new to this)
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> depends on the extension of the file you downloaded
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> or you can apt-get install appname
[04:44] <uniq> kbuntunewb: kmenu - system - adept, with this application you can install other programs.
[04:44] <MAW_away> uniq: Until now it runs well... Where did you get the information to taht link? I was searching whole yesterday
[04:44] <uniq> maw_away: i searched :)
[04:44] <MAW_away> I do also ...
[04:45] <kbuntunewb> i was trying to install or get firefox to work... and it seems like its "installed" already..?
[04:45] <MAW_away> But I hav not asked what did you do, I asked where did you get that information!?
[04:45] <kbuntunewb> but i couldn't find or get execute the app
[04:45] <Tommy2k4> what happens when typing firefox in konsole
[04:45] <uniq> maw_away: http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org/toots/vst-plugins/ says it's included in the vstserver archive.
[04:46] <uniq> tommy2k4: firefox should start
[04:46] <Tommy2k4> was asking kbuntunewb
[04:46] <kbuntunewb> comman not found
[04:46] <uniq> tommy2k4: sorry. :)
[04:46] <Tommy2k4> np
[04:47] <MAW_away> Reading could be an advantage
[04:47] <MAW_away> thx a lot
[04:47] <kbuntunewb> bash: firefox: command not found
[04:48] <Tommy2k4> what happens when you sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:48] <uniq> maw_away: good luck with music production :)
[04:49] <kbuntunewb> you mean like type this "sudo apt-get install firefox" in konsole?  it tells me this "
[04:49] <kbuntunewb> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                           able)
[04:49] <kbuntunewb> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                           ess using it?
[04:49] <Tommy2k4> do you have adept open
[04:50] <kbuntunewb> ohh.. adept was open :)
[04:50] <Raven301> What is the command to scan for usb devices ??? usb sticks
[04:50] <visik7> why usplash doesn't start from the beginning of the shutdown ?
[04:51] <MAW_away> uniq: I will give my very best
[04:51] <kbuntunewb> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:51] <visik7> impossible
[04:52] <visik7> kbuntunewb: firefox is in main
[04:52] <visik7> you have messed up your sources.list
[04:52] <dr_willis> !infio firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dr_willis
[04:52] <dr_willis> !info firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 7720 kB, Installed size: 22868 kB
[04:52] <visik7> optional ?
[04:52] <dr_willis> i didet think firefox was installed by default in kubuntu
[04:52] <visik7> yes ok optional for kubuntu
[04:52] <Tommy2k4> its not
[04:52] <visik7> but in main
[04:53] <Tommy2k4> kbuntunewb, upload your sources.list to pastebin
[04:53] <Tommy2k4> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:53] <kbuntunewb> ahhh.. .so from what i have read... kubuntu is like the stripped version of ubuntu?
[04:53] <visik7> so if the sources.list is the one installed by default it is installable
[04:53] <heinkel_111> hmm i am back
[04:53] <FisherP> !kuickshow
[04:53] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FisherP
[04:53] <Tommy2k4> !sources
[04:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[04:53] <visik7> kbuntunewb: isn't a stipped version
[04:53] <heinkel_111> but it sems as if i lost control of my CDROM drive :(
[04:53] <visik7> kbuntunewb: is a ubuntu with kde and without gnome
[04:54] <FisherP> visik7, yes, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde not gnome
[04:54] <visik7> FisherP  I know
[04:54] <visik7> FisherP: I'm telling it to kbuntunewb
[04:55] <FisherP> Does anybody know what happend to kuickshow??
[04:55] <FisherP> visik7 sorry
[04:55] <kbuntunewb> :)
[04:55] <kbuntunewb> Package firefox has no installation candidate
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> mozilla-firefox
[04:56] <kbuntunewb> sooooooooo   how do i go about installing my FIRST (kodak moment) ever software in kubuntu
[04:56] <dr_willis> apt-cache search firefox
[04:56] <miguel_> I have no permission to acces hda1, who can help me with that?
[04:57] <FisherP> kbuntunewb i would use adept, it's good for searching etc
[04:57] <dr_willis> and the type of hard drive/file system is what miguel_ ?
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> kbuntunewb: not firefox, mozilla-firefox
[04:57] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: and uniq: help! I cannot even eject my music cd from the cdrom player anymore :-(
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:57] <miguel_> ntfs
[04:57] <dr_willis> heinkel_111,  if a program is accessing the drive. it will be locked.
[04:57] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[04:57] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:57] <dr_willis> !winfstab
[04:57] <ubotu> an NTFS partition in fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,umask=0222 0 0
[04:58] <miguel_> yes
[04:58] <uniq> heinkel_111: try 'sudo eject'
[04:58] <miguel_> but only root have permission to access
[04:58] <dr_willis> Hmm.. someone chang3ed the umask=000 to 0222
[04:59] <dr_willis> have the user mount the drive. Thats what the user option does
[04:59] <dr_willis> dont auto mount the drives
[04:59] <heinkel_111> uniq: thank you!
[05:00] <heinkel_111> uniq: the stadium arcadium just got freed from the jaws of my drive :-)
[05:00] <uniq> :)
[05:01] <heinkel_111> now back to original problem..how to get the disks to show up properly
[05:01] <heinkel_111> when i had breezy i just inserted the cds and lots of met-directories for ogg mp3 and wav file types popped up instantly
[05:01] <heinkel_111> a nice feature, I want it back!
[05:02] <nico8481> heinkel_111: just type "audiocd:/" in konqueror's location bar
[05:02] <nico8481> or right-click on the CD icon then "open"
[05:03] <CaBlGuY> don't listen to the DR..  he's JUST a Dr..   :p
[05:03] <heinkel_111> nico8481: not able to read audiocd :-( no cdrom icon :-(
[05:03] <CaBlGuY> I've got my slave drive auto mounted and have no problems...
[05:03] <nico8481> heinkel_111: in the system menu (just next to the K one) > storage media
[05:04] <dr_willis> i imsgine theres some packages you install that caused those extras to show up
[05:04] <uniq> heinkel_111: did you remove the lines as i told you to, and restart?
[05:04] <heinkel_111> nico8481: it is not there
[05:04] <dr_willis> of course my UBUNTU install just took a nose dive this morning.. not sure whats going on.
[05:04] <heinkel_111> uniq: yes
[05:04] <uniq> heinkel_111: and it didn't work?
[05:04] <TechHut> hmm
[05:04] <TechHut> Dr willis
[05:04] <TechHut> how do?
[05:04] <TechHut> so*
[05:05] <heinkel_111> uniq: does not look like it :(
[05:05] <_david> Does anybody know what happend to kuickshow??
[05:06] <dr_willis> _david,  proberly got decided it wasent that handy
[05:06] <uniq> _david: it's been removed, it was old and unmaintained, and depended on the unmaintained imlib. So it's beeing replaced by gwenview.
[05:06] <heinkel_111> I am gonna try putting them back and strat over again
[05:06] <heinkel_111> start
[05:06] <uniq> heinkel_111: if you want automounting to work you should not put them back. Automounting will ignore the devices when they are in /etc/fstab.
[05:07] <heinkel_111> uniq: you are probably right
[05:07] <heinkel_111> uniq: but I might have asked thw wrong question :S this does not work!
[05:08] <uniq> heinkel_111: not for any cds? or just audiocds?
[05:08] <_david> uniq, dr_willis, I thought it was quite handy.. it was small, quick and did the trick. I guess i'l learn gwenview then thanks
[05:08] <heinkel_111> uniq: trying data cd in dvd drive now
[05:08] <dr_willis> _david,  for all we know it changed names. :P
[05:09] <heinkel_111> uniq: it is not recognised
[05:09] <uniq> heinkel_111: nothing happens?
[05:09] <heinkel_111> my ssytem does not even note there is a disk in there :(
[05:09] <heinkel_111> system...argh
[05:10] <_david> dr_willis, ty again... time to go to bed
[05:11] <Sebasti> Hi
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> !xmms skins
[05:11] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> !xmms
[05:11] <ubotu> I guess xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[05:12] <uniq> heinkel_111: ok, go to system settings -> kde components -> service manager - check that KDE Media Manager is enabled.
[05:12] <Sebasti> I would use the Ubuntu channel,  but I am still banned for flooding it :d  anyway.  I installed loads of games yesterday and I do not have sound for loads of them.  why is that?
[05:12] <Sebasti> that's with Gnome  maybe if I use KDE I will get sound,  but I don't know
[05:12] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: when did you flood?
[05:12] <dr_willis> i would guess alsa/odd/esd conflicts
[05:12] <heinkel_111> uniq: will do
[05:12] <uniq> sebasti: can you name some of the games you don't have sound in?
[05:13] <Sebasti> Frozen Bubble for example
[05:13] <heinkel_111> uniq: KDE media manager is up and running confirmed
[05:13] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: it's probably in your best interests to answer me...when did you flood, and do you plan to do it again?
[05:13] <Sebasti> a few days or a week or so ago now when I flooded Ubuntu channel, but still banned.  altough I had done it more than once :D
[05:13] <uniq> heinkel_111: hmm.. i'm starting to run out of ideas..
[05:14] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: if it's more than 3 lines, use a pastebin.  in fact, if it's more than 2 lines, use a pastebin.  pastes are just plain annoying, okay?  especially in busy channels.
[05:14] <Sebasti> are you a mod Hobbsee with the power to unban me?   :P on the keyboard
[05:16] <Hobbsee> !tell thompa about kde3.5.3
[05:16] <Sebasti> anyway wormtux I got sound in that game,  but like all the other ones I have tryed so far no sound
[05:16] <rubso> guys, is there any firestarter-like for KDE ?
[05:16] <uniq> sebasti: what games? names please.
[05:17] <uniq> rubso: guarddog
[05:17] <MetaMorfoziS> rubso firestarter works with kde
[05:17] <Sebasti> even no sound in Mealstrom for exampl.e  which I used to play when I had Fedora Core.  and have even played on XP.  and so I know this game has sound
[05:17] <MetaMorfoziS> firestarter uses gtk, that supported by kde [that use qt]
[05:17] <rubso> Thanks.
[05:18] <CaBlGuY> !firestarter
[05:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[05:18] <Sebasti> altough this is when I am in Gnome and try and play these games.  maybe it would work with sound in KDE?  ,but I dont think if I am using Gnome KDE or whatever to play these games.  that that will make a difference?
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> Sebasti: If you have arts running try disabling it
[05:19] <Sebasti> what's arts?
[05:19] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:19] <thompa> ok, i know that. but will kde 3.5.3 be added one day to repos?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> thompa: for edgy
[05:20] <thompa> ok. so kde stays version within release.
[05:20] <thompa> thanks
[05:20] <uniq> everything statys at it's version after the version freeze.
[05:20] <thompa> fine
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> Sebasti: kde's soundserver (disable the sound server from system setting  then try it)
[05:21] <Sebasti> right, but I was using Gnome not KDE when trying these games so
[05:21] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:21] <uniq> metamorfozis: please don't repeat your question every 2 min.
[05:21] <Hawkwind> BTW, happy fathers day to all the fathers out there :)
[05:21] <Sebasti> My father is an a hole so no happy fathers day for him from me
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, /set delay 10min
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: FYI, wherever you flood next, if you flood, i will have the great enjoyment of banning you from there, dont think you'll get away with it, even though you were trying to have a bit of fun.
[05:22] <davelondon> are you having problems MetaMorfoziS
[05:22] <tof>  anyone know about a comparison between kexi and ooffice database (and ms access ;-) ?
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to buy an external dvdwriter
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> (plextor px750)
[05:23] <davelondon> and what's the actual problem
[05:23] <Slappy> external hd works fine here
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> and i'm not 100% it's supported by linux
[05:23] <Sebasti> why would the KDE soundserver be running when I am using Gnome?  it woudnt right
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> Ask in #ubuntu if you are not using kde
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm don't want to use win and crap drivers to burn dvds... so this is the problem:D
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: if he does, call !kops will you?  :P
[05:23] <Sebasti> I would of, but I joiend join it again since I got banned
[05:23] <Sebasti> I coudn't join it
[05:23] <Hawkwind> Hah, most certainly
[05:24] <davelondon> I can't see a problem if it's USB but there is a 'hardware compatibility' web site that has a list of kit that works with linux
[05:25] <TechHut> bye guys, I have to go eat lunch
[05:25] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: odd that.  flamers arent allowed into channels.
[05:25] <MetaMorfoziS> where?
[05:25] <MetaMorfoziS> it supports firewire and usb2.0
[05:26] <davelondon> MetaMorfoziS: try google for the site and what is USB 2.0 ur pc or the dvdwriter
[05:26] <Sebasti> I got an idea
[05:26] <Sebasti> I am going to try the games in KDE
[05:27] <davelondon> anyone use a good erp/crm package, I have tinyerp working but it's too basic
[05:28] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[05:28] <davelondon> Sebasti: because it's the best sound server
[05:30] <geneo93> morning all
[05:31] <Sebasti> afternoon here
[05:33] <geneo93> well its close here too
[05:34] <cox377> afternoon
[05:34] <geneo93> 25 minutes it will be
[05:34] <cox377> where u @ gene?
[05:36] <davelondon> any americans here, ur team were great yesterday-funniest game I have seem in ages
[05:36] <Slappy> yes
[05:36] <Slappy> us here
[05:36] <geneo93> now dont knock us americans
[05:36] <Slappy> :)
[05:37] <geneo93> we dont have the same view as bush
[05:37] <davelondon> oh thats the world cup-soccer-i can tell u have no idea what I am talking about
[05:37] <davelondon> america knocks itself enough, there is no room
[05:37] <Slappy> lol
[05:38] <davelondon> the yanks were brilliant, they played Italy and got the draw
[05:39] <geneo93> i'd like to see some 3rd world country win it all
[05:39] <davelondon> for any americans translated that means: USA and Italy played a game of soccer and it ended 1 goal each, which we call a draw
[05:40] <Slappy> rotfl
[05:40] <Slappy> we do know a little
[05:40] <Slappy> lol
[05:40] <davelondon> watch out for ghana
[05:42] <uniq> guys, can you take the offtopic stuff to #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[05:42] <geneo93> oh sure
[05:43] <davelondon> ur joking u have a channel for people that don't want to talk about kubuntu
[05:43] <Hobbsee> davelondon: sure
[05:44] <Slappy> i love kubuntu
[05:44] <cox377> lol
[05:44] <Slappy> i   am a total linux n99b but man this is neat
[05:44] <geneo93> i'm not happy with the way its sucking up all the memory till it crashes
[05:45] <byen> hey guys. I need some help, how do i increase the size(length)of the window tabs on the tab bar?
[05:45] <cox377> slappy: certainly so.. but unfortunatly it's like a toy.. a big toy @ that, which is very difficult to stop playing with
[05:45] <davelondon> sounds a bit weird to me, there are 7000 channels for that, but I digress-anyone know a good non-web erp?
[05:46] <davelondon> byen: say that again?
[05:47] <geneo93> byen:  are you talking about popup
[05:48] <byen> geneo93: no.. you know the window list on the tastbar
[05:48] <byen> *tasbar
[05:48] <geneo93> no
[05:48] <geneo93> your talking about pager
[05:49] <byen> the opened windoe tabs on the taskbar
[05:49] <chavo> byen, it's a hidden setting, open up ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc
[05:49] <byen> how can i change it chavo
[05:49] <chavo> look for the [General]  section, if not there make it
[05:50] <chavo> then put this underneath it -> MaximumButtonWidth=440
[05:50] <chavo> you can change the 440 to whatever you want
[05:51] <byen> I dont have it there
[05:51] <geneo93> sure it is
[05:51] <byen> I am trying MaximumButtonWidth=300
[05:51] <chavo> then run -> dcop kicker kicker restart , to restart the taskbar
[05:51] <davelondon> bye chaps -its australia v brazil could be an upset on the books here
[05:54] <byen> chavo: it is not taking effect .. let me restart kde
[05:54] <chavo> byen, you don't need to restart
[05:55] <byen> should i make the General session as
[05:55] <visik7> how should zeroconf works ?  I've 2 kubuntu 6.06 but I can't connect eachother
[05:55] <chavo> it should have the brackets just like I wrote it
[05:55] <andre> I can't get apache to run... When I etc/init.d/apache2 start it doesn't give any error message, but ther is no apache process running. theres also nothing in the apche logs.
[05:55] <byen> [General]  or [$General]  chavo
[05:55] <elknof3> hello
[05:56] <elknof3> does anyone knows about the depurator i have to use for playing t.c splinter cell using wine
[05:56] <elknof3> ?
[05:56] <byen> Bingo! chavo this is the second time you helped me on this.. i was stupid not to save it the first time! thanks a bunch my friend!
[05:57] <chavo> andre the apache process is called httpd
[05:57] <thompa> i need to easily save web pages for offline viewing in Konqueror?
[05:57] <chavo> byen, anytime :)
[05:57] <andre> chavo: also not running.
[05:57] <thompa> online guides and stuff for a class,
[05:58] <byen> really.. thanks! this is cool.. being a gnome user and giving kde a fair shot! Ummm loving it!
[05:58] <chavo> yeah kde rocks
[05:58] <thompa> i know save as in konqueror, but is there a more efiecient way through bookmanrks?
[06:00] <thompa> i just found offline browsing mode in konqueror
[06:01] <bernier> hi, ive installed the gdb debugger now how do i stick it to the program i want to debug?
[06:01] <jpatrick> gdb <programname>
[06:01] <uniq> thompa: oh.. how do you choose that?
[06:02] <bernier> ok thanks
[06:03] <bernier> jpatrick: once the program crashes how do i get the error?
[06:03] <thompa> in konqueror settings cache, its not want i want
[06:03] <Rainier> greetings everybody
[06:03] <thompa> it just browses with no internet connected
[06:03] <jpatrick> should say it
[06:03] <Rainier> y got a problem with gcc
[06:03] <bernier> jpatrick: and if it doesn't =//
[06:03] <jpatrick> :/
[06:04] <jpatrick> !debuy
[06:04] <ubotu> jpatrick: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:04] <Rainier> but it seems more like its a problem with kubuntu
[06:04] <jpatrick> !debug
[06:04] <ubotu> jpatrick: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:04] <thompa> I have web pages with lengthy information i need to save
[06:04] <uniq> thompa: ah,that. :)
[06:04] <uniq> rainier: what is the problem?
[06:04] <thompa> i guess i can just use save as, but there must be another way.
[06:04] <Rainier> uniq: hello, I have this little program written in C with a pile
[06:04] <thompa> My class has no internet connection
[06:04] <jpatrick> bernier: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[06:04] <bernier> jpatrick: well everytime i use "ctrl+alt+esc" my kdesktop crashes
[06:05] <Rainier> uniq: and the push is giving me a segmentation fault...and i know it is correctly written
[06:05] <Rainier> uniq: cause it works in windows and even when i run it in TCC in dosbox
[06:05] <Rainier> uniq: so you know, its driving me crazy
[06:06] <uniq> rainier: ok, any change i can get the program and try to compile/debug it?
[06:06] <Rainier> uniq: yeah sure
[06:06] <Rainier> uniq: i would appreciate it
[06:06] <byen> ok Guys thanks for the help! chavo you rock!
[06:07] <Rainier> uniq: how do i send it?
[06:07] <uniq> rainier: how big?
[06:07] <chavo> thompa, I found it
[06:07] <loanwolf> ? can get blackdown java to work..but not sun's java...whats the difference in the 2
[06:07] <thompa> what i want to do is save page and some in depth links
[06:08] <chavo> thompa, go to Settings, Configure Extensions
[06:08] <thompa> chavo: what may i ask?
[06:08] <Rainier> uniq: haha just some kilobytes ;-)
[06:08] <thompa> ok
[06:08] <chavo> It's a web page archiver
[06:08] <Rainier> uniq: its like 200 lines of code maybe
[06:08] <ru> when i right click > open with on some files I have xine coming up twice
[06:08] <ru> how do I remove this
[06:08] <chavo> On the tools tab click web archiver
[06:09] <chavo> Then it will be in the Tools, menu
[06:09] <chavo> I'm not sure if any other browsers can view the archive though
[06:09] <thompa> thats ok, konqueror is good enough. it was already selected
[06:10] <thompa> chavo: right in front of me whole time. thanks
[06:10] <chavo> np :)
[06:10] <Rainier> uniq: you dont speak spanish right?
[06:11] <thompa> im going to test it, i thought archive was for compression though
[06:11] <chavo> thompa, it is compressed
[06:13] <thompa> is the same as saving the page
[06:14] <thompa> i want to save page and depth links
[06:14] <DrNickRiviera> if you have 2 dvd drives, how is it specified which one is accessible through dvd://
[06:14] <thompa> so when i open the page and click link i get that too
[06:16] <thompa> i think there must be another program to do that. like a web editor would i guess
[06:16] <chavo> thompa, you can try wget
[06:16] <thompa> ok
[06:16] <chavo> wget -r, will get recursive links
[06:17] <thompa> great
[06:17] <chavo> go to man:wget in konqueror for more options
[06:20] <DrNickRiviera> can anyone help me with my question about specifying which one of 2 dvd drives is accessible using dvd:// ?
[06:22] <chess> where is the repository for build-essential
[06:22] <uniq> rainier: no, very limited.
[06:23] <chavo> chess, it's in main
[06:23] <chess> says E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[06:25] <visik7> how should zeroconf works ?  I've 2 kubuntu 6.06 but I can't connect eachother
[06:37] <uniq> visik7: is the zeroconf package installed? - did you edit /etc/default/zeroconf and set FALLBACK=yes ?
[06:40] <visik7> uniq: no
[06:40] <visik7> I'll do
[06:40] <visik7> why it isn't installed by default ?
[06:40] <MetaMorfoziS> what is zeroconf?
[06:41] <visik7> a tool to autoconnect 2 computer without configuring it
[06:41] <MetaMorfoziS> filesharing?
[06:41] <MetaMorfoziS> for filesharing or for what?
[06:41] <visik7> connecting it brings up layer 3
[06:41] <MetaMorfoziS> 2 linux box or it's cross platform
[06:41] <chess> try samba
[06:42] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: macosx has it
[06:42] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: and maybe vista
[06:42] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, thnx
[06:43] <rraajj> How do I remove GRUB entries?
[06:43] <Tommy2k4> can flash not play sound on linux?
[06:44] <uniq> rraajj: remove the kernels. and run update-grub
[06:44] <MetaMorfoziS> raaj or: /boot/grub/menu.lst but first you may backup it...
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> and only do this if you know what you are doing:)
[06:45] <angasule> !qt4
[06:45] <ubotu> angasule: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:46] <rraajj> uniq: I just want to remove the very first entry (the latest kernel) for the moment, it's still not compatible with my ATI driver. Hehe. :D
[06:46] <rraajj> MetaMorfoziS: Okay, thanks!
[06:47] <geneo93> uniq:  do you know why this thing kills itself off when usong azureus
[06:48] <chavo> Tommy2k4, it depends I get sound from flash no problem, as long as no KDE sounds pop up.
[07:00] <tore> hi there
[07:01] <tore> someone can help me in switcing audio devices in kubuntu?
[07:01] <tore> i'v got a via chipset with audio and an usb andio devices
[07:02] <tore> and i dont know how to switch them as standard audio device...
[07:03] <geneo93> the audio expert is not here
[07:06] <tore> humm..
[07:06] <tore> ok
[07:06] <thompa> chavo: i found httrack or webhttrack to copy websites
[07:06] <geneo93> look for crimsun later
[07:07] <tore> ok, many tanks geneo93
[07:07] <geneo93> yw
[07:08] <geneo93> Happy Fathers Day to all you fathers
[07:10] <CaBlGuY> !google earth
[07:10] <ubotu> somebody said google earth was http://earth.google.com/ and to download http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[07:10] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[07:16] <CaBlGuY> anyone else got google earth on there install?
[07:16] <Leqtic> erhm
[07:16] <Leqtic> can anyone help me
[07:16] <Leqtic> can anyone help me, christ, erhm
[07:16] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[07:16] <Leqtic> It looks like i got an application up and running (kismet) but I cant see it anywhere
[07:16] <CaBlGuY> what seems to b the problem...
[07:16] <Leqtic> does linux has a task list like Winxp?
[07:17] <CaBlGuY> Ummmm no
[07:17] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[07:17] <Leqtic> I can hear the applikation beep in the background  (probarly cuz I didnt shut it down correctly before restart)
[07:17] <CaBlGuY> have you logged out and logged back in?
[07:17] <chavo> Leqtic, kismet is command line app
[07:17] <Leqtic> CaBlGuY:  I have restarted
[07:17] <chavo> also hit ctrl-esc for taskmanager
[07:17] <Leqtic> chavo:  Yeh, but I can hear the beeping in the backjground
[07:18] <CaBlGuY> ok, and have you done the upgrade and update?
[07:18] <chavo> you can also kill from the command line -> killall kismet
[07:19] <Leqtic> thanks chavo =)
[07:20] <CaBlGuY> Leqtic: u may have to install the latest version of kismet also...
[07:21] <CaBlGuY> chavo: know anything about google earth on here?
[07:21] <chavo> CaBlGuY, I have it installed sure
[07:21] <CaBlGuY> did u have buoild a package for it?
[07:21] <chavo> no I used the installer
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> ok, so Im gettin it form the site now..  it's a .bin file..
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> what installer did u use?
[07:22] <chavo> yeah just run -> sudo sh google....bin --nochown
[07:22] <chavo> the file is an installer
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> ahhh  ok. col..
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> on the command line then..
[07:23] <chavo> yes
[07:23] <CaBlGuY> and what is sh?
[07:23] <CaBlGuY> I'm still learnikn all the Linux commands n stuff.  :p
[07:23] <chavo> sh is the shell, it's actually a link to /bin/bash
[07:24] <CaBlGuY> ahh  ok..
[07:24] <chavo> the installer is a bash script and you're telling bash to run it
[07:24] <CaBlGuY> and what does the --nochown do?
[07:25] <geneo93> not to change ownership
[07:25] <chavo> that way all users can run it, I don't know why google set the installer up like that
[07:25] <CaBlGuY> ok cool..
[07:25] <CaBlGuY> im workin on it now..
[07:28] <CaBlGuY> cool..  all installed...
[07:28] <CaBlGuY> thanks chavo.. ;)
[07:31] <CaBlGuY> ummm  where is it installed at?  I'm not seein it on the menu anywhere..
[07:32] <chavo> CaBlGuY, I don't think it makes a menu item
[07:32] <geneo93> start it from terminal
[07:33] <geneo93> or find the bin file and add it to menu
[07:33] <CaBlGuY> ok, and it would be just google earth form term right?
[07:33] <chavo> googleearth
[07:33] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[07:34] <chavo> CaBlGuY, cp /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth.desktop ~/desktop <- that will put an icon on your desktop
[07:34] <chavo> make that ~/Dsktop
[07:34] <chavo> ~/Desktop
[07:34] <umberleigh> can someone help, i think i've just seriously hosed my system trying to enable dma in dapper :s
[07:34] <chavo> <-bad typer
[07:34] <CaBlGuY> hehe  ok,
[07:34] <umberleigh> it now won't recognise my hard disk, and just f
[07:35] <umberleigh> ..inds /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1, sda2 etc when i boot from a live cd
[07:35] <chavo> umberleigh, what were you doing?
[07:36] <umberleigh> trying to enable dma (which in hindsight was a stupid idea now i've realised it was already enabled in dapper)
[07:42] <umberleigh> added the lines /dev/hda { dma = on } and /dev/hdc { dma = on } in /etc/hdparm.conf, then rebooted. i managed to log in okay, but then my system locked up after about 30secs and i had to do a hard reset
[07:43] <umberleigh> then i couldn't boot at all, and i can't access the bios configuration too, for some reason.
[07:43] <umberleigh> it's not recognising an
[07:43] <Kristophe> whowhowhoooo wait a minute google earth is now on linux??? Hiyaaaa! (sorry but I feel better now :-)
[07:44] <umberleigh> ..y system disk, and booting from a knoppix cd only recognises /dev/sda, my partitions are on /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc
[07:45] <umberleigh> :s
[07:48] <geneo93> so did you use hdparm on partition or disk
[07:49] <umberleigh> sudo hdparm /dev/hda, and the same for /dev/hdc
[07:50] <icheyne> has anyone else reported Kubuntu freezing just before loading up KDE?
[07:50] <geneo93> thats not how it done
[07:51] <h3sp4wn> icheyne: With the stock ubuntu kernel ?
[07:51] <icheyne> I think so
[07:51] <icheyne> I just installed it
[07:51] <icheyne> did an apt-get upgrade
[07:51] <umberleigh> geneo93: they're the only hdparm commands i issued before rebooting
[07:51] <icheyne> and rebooted but it would not start
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> try rebooting with the old kernel (2.6.15-23 - press escape as soon as it gets past the bios)
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> and select that from the grub list
[07:52] <icheyne> oh ok
[07:52] <icheyne> I'll try that thanks
[07:52] <icheyne> hang on
[07:53] <geneo93> umberleigh:  hdparm -d /dev/sda
[07:54] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: it freezes with the old kernel too
[07:54] <umberleigh> when i boot the machine up it either hangs at the post before checking disks and memory, or gets past that, skips the part where it would usually check for my sata disk (the one that's not being recognised anymore) and goes straight to an error message along the lines of 'no system disk/bootable disk'
[07:54] <geneo93> then the video driver is messed up
[07:54] <umberleigh> great :(
[07:55] <umberleigh> what can i do about it?
[07:55] <geneo93> do a low level format
[07:55] <umberleigh> ARG
[07:56] <umberleigh> aren't there any alternatives?
[07:56] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: I think I found the problem!
[07:56] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197229&highlight=kubuntu+boot+problem
[07:56] <geneo93> umberleigh:  you maybe beable to use testdisk to recover boot sector
[07:56] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: I'll try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:57] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: in recovery mode
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> icheyne: Sounds like a good idea
[07:58] <umberleigh> i can't even get it to pass the post atm, it's locking up everytime
[07:59] <geneo93> turn off the power for 60 seconds
[08:00] <rexykik> please tell me how to change my kubuntu to single user so I do not have to log in everytime I boot. Also, is there a way to automatically execute a command after logging in (after KDE loads)
[08:00] <rexykik> ?
[08:00] <rexykik> i am using kdm
[08:01] <geneo93> yes system settings login manager
[08:01] <geneo93> admin mode
[08:02] <rexykik> ah
[08:02] <rexykik> found it
[08:02] <rexykik> thank you
[08:02] <rexykik> have any idea about the command execution?
[08:03] <chavo> rexykik, go to ~/.kde/Autostart you can put links, scripts or .desktop files
[08:03] <geneo93> what are you trying to run
[08:05] <rexykik> a program called synergy
[08:05] <rexykik> it is just a command
[08:06] <geneo93> oic
[08:06] <rexykik> it allows me to use dual heads over multiple computers
[08:06] <chavo> rexykik, I use synergy too, I just have a script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:06] <rexykik> ah
[08:06] <rexykik> do i need to make a directory for it?
[08:06] <rexykik> or just stick in a script?
[08:07] <cox377> does anyone here run azureus on there kubuntu?
[08:07] <geneo93> cox377:  i am
[08:07] <jme__> i did
[08:07] <chavo> are you running the server or client?
[08:07] <rexykik> i've been trying to get it to run, but I haven't been able to get JRE installed
[08:07] <cox377> do i have any probs
[08:07] <rexykik> client
[08:07] <cox377> it seems to crash when ever i load it
[08:07] <cox377> on both my kubuntu machines
[08:07] <chavo> then you need a script,
[08:08] <geneo93> you need to configure java
[08:08] <rexykik> just synergyc <server> &
[08:08] <cox377> how do i go about doing that geneo?
[08:08] <rexykik> ?
[08:08] <poimen> I went to watch tokyo drift, the best racing movie ever
[08:08] <geneo93> cant remember
[08:08] <chavo> well yeah and !#/bin/bash, on first line
[08:08] <geneo93> and its not in my bash history
[08:08] <chavo> then chmod +x
[08:09] <cox377> all that happens, everytime i launch it it brings up  a warning
[08:09] <soulrider> hi
[08:09] <cox377> "azureus did not shut down tidly
[08:09] <soulrider> im trying kubuntu for the first time!
[08:10] <rexykik> alright
[08:10] <rexykik> going to test
[08:10] <chx> hi. anyone using ktorrent here? i tried to google but could not find the info -- how could I restrict ktorrent to connect to only a range of IP addresses?
[08:11] <rexykik> weird
[08:11] <rexykik> when it runs the script it just opens it in kate
[08:11] <jme__> cox377: try to close it manually
[08:11] <rexykik> i wrote it with vi
[08:12] <rexykik> any ideas?
[08:12] <geneo93> hehe
[08:12] <soulrider> uhm guys, im trying to install Opera, but i dont know how to :P
[08:12] <geneo93> apt-get install opera
[08:12] <soulrider> and where do i do that? :-/
[08:13] <soulrider> i downlaoded a.deb file to ym desktop
[08:13] <soulrider> i right clicked it and then hit install
[08:13] <soulrider> but i get some errors
[08:13] <geneo93> in terminal but you need to use sudo before that line
[08:13] <soulrider> err, this is my first time trying linux... so i dont really knwo what youre talking about :P
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> soulrider opera has some problems in ubuntu for me all machines that i managed
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> so i guess you to use firefox or konqueror
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> at the first time
[08:14] <soulrider> oh .
[08:14] <soulrider> im gonna miss opera :P
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> for me it said: xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) needed
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> but it not installable
[08:15] <soulrider> yes, i think i got some errors like that
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> soulridr try: open Konsole and type: sudo dpkg -i /your/oprea/deb
[08:15] <soulrider> by the way, when i wanna downlaod a program what is it that i wanna get? because i dont know how to compile
[08:15] <geneo93> you need to enable all the repositories
[08:15] <soulrider> is it the bianries thaty will install without problems?
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> and you get's something same like this:D
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> You can either use the developer snapshot of opera
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> or take the deb appart and remove the xlib dependancy (it will still work
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i remove the xlib ?
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> dependeancy
[08:16] <cox377> so no one knows how to get azureus up and running properly on Kubuntu?
[08:17] <geneo93> !java
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> cox where you are
[08:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> have you java and the azuereus tarball?
[08:17] <geneo93> !azureus
[08:17] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:17] <cox377> I install azureus via the getapt
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> ? it's in repos?
[08:17] <cox377> aptget**
[08:17] <cox377> yeh
[08:17] <soulrider> ill play around a bit mroe with linux adn then go back to win for the day :P
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> hm... i guess download tarball from azureus.sf.net
[08:17] <geneo93>  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:18] <soulrider> oh by the way
[08:18] <soulrider> im usiong the live CD
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> and java -jar ./azureus in the extracted azureus's folder
[08:18] <soulrider> where does it save everything that id ownlaod and intsall ?
[08:18] <soulrider> or is it gone after i reboot?
[08:18] <geneo93> soulrider:  to your home dir or where ever you choose
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ dunno, i think the best way is thee text install i have some problem with live, but the text mode worked fine
[08:19] <cox377> geneo93: i'm assuming that was meant for me "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[08:19] <geneo93> yes and pick 3 for choice
[08:19] <soulrider> geneo93: where is my home dir set or where can i set it ?
[08:19] <TheFuzzball> hello, I get the following error message: root@ringo:~# sudo mount /dev/sda1
[08:19] <TheFuzzball> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:19] <TheFuzzball>        missing codepage or other error
[08:19] <TheFuzzball>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:19] <TheFuzzball>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:19] <TheFuzzball> can anyone help?
[08:19] <cox377> geneo93: there are only two options available?
[08:20] <cox377>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[08:20] <cox377> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[08:20] <geneo93> so you dont have sun jave then
[08:20] <geneo93> cox377:  look here !java
[08:20] <cox377> ok, do u know what the apt-get is for that?
[08:21] <geneo93> you have multiverse enabled
[08:21] <Dinofly> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:22] <cox377> cheers
[08:22] <cox377> getting it now
[08:22] <rexykik> have any idea why a script i wrote would open in kate (gui text editor) rather than running?
[08:22] <geneo93> then run the conf script again
[08:22] <rexykik> i have !#/bin/bash at the beginning...
[08:22] <Dinofly> is it executable rexykik ?
[08:22] <rexykik> yes it is
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> because you not set the "x" (rexecutable) parameters
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> chmod +x ./yourfile
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> try: sh ./yourfile
[08:23] <ninHer> hi all
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> hi
[08:23] <rexykik> works
[08:25] <Tomaz> hey, people.
[08:25] <rexykik> weird
[08:25] <rexykik> still opening it in kate
[08:25] <Tomaz> how do i get a new language pack for the entire kubuntu? when i installed the system, i was out of web, and now the system is in english, and i need it to be in portuguese brazilian
[08:25] <rexykik> it is in Autostart
[08:26] <rexykik> sh ./myfile works
[08:27] <geneo93> check its properties
[08:27] <slow-motion> re
[08:27] <rexykik> i set it 777
[08:28] <Tomaz> someone here knows how i download a languagem pack for the entire kubuntu?
[08:29] <snikker> where is xmatrix screen saver under dapper?
[08:29] <rexykik> i'm a dapper dan man
[08:30] <chavo> rexykik, should be #!/bin/bash on the first line
[08:30] <chavo> not !#
[08:30] <Dinofly> Tomaz: for french i type
[08:30] <Dinofly> sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr
[08:30] <Tomaz> hum.... i didn't find the language-pack-pt-br here
[08:31] <Dinofly> then probably sudo apt-get install language-support-pt
[08:31] <rexykik> thanks for the help
[08:31] <rexykik> got it working
[08:31] <geneo93> typo
[08:31] <rexykik> had to change it to .sh
[08:32] <chavo> rexykik, the first line is wrong
[08:32] <rexykik> huh
[08:32] <rexykik> still works
[08:32] <rexykik> oddly enough
[08:32] <chavo> should be #!/bin/bash, I told you backwards
[08:32] <geneo93> well he bypassed the first line now
[08:32] <rexykik> yeah
[08:32] <rexykik> oh well
[08:32] <rexykik> thanks anyways
[08:32] <rexykik> got it all worked out
[08:32] <chavo> well as long as it works
[08:32] <rexykik> yups
[08:32] <rexykik> i fixed it anyways
[08:32] <rexykik> but still
[08:33] <MetaMorfoziS> )
[08:33] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[08:33] <Tomaz> dinofly, i got this error when apt-get install language-support-pt
[08:33] <Tomaz> Error: 'pt' is not a supported language or locale
[08:35] <Dinofly> sorry i can't help you more, it works for french so i didn't encounter this error
[08:36] <geneo93> Tomaz:  try language-pack-kde-pt-base
[08:36] <geneo93> then language-pack-kde-pt
[08:36] <Karlos> http://experts.microsoft.fr/
[08:37] <Tomaz> tanks dude =D
[08:37] <MetaMorfoziS> hohohoho:))
[08:37] <geneo93> np
[08:37] <MetaMorfoziS> Karlos: cool:)
[08:38] <Chameleon22> can somebody tell me (link perhaps) how to read status information returned by dpkg --list, the rc, ii, pi, ... that stuff
[08:38] <Karlos> my pleasure LOL
[08:38] <snikker> i'm unable to find xmatrix screen saver for dapper...
[08:38] <rexykik> i added the multiverse and universe repositories, but for some reason sun-java5-jre still isn't showing up after doing an update. any ideas?
[08:38] <rexykik> should i just do the fakeroot workaround?
[08:39] <Karlos> already tryed with source-o-matic ?
[08:39] <rexykik> source-o-matic?
[08:39] <geneo93> yeah it tell you repos you what
[08:39] <rexykik> is it command line or?
[08:39] <Karlos> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic Sources.list generator
[08:40] <rexykik> thx
[08:40] <geneo93> be nice if someone wrote a scritp for it
[08:41] <steveire> I think I read a tutorial before on how to install giFT. Anyone any idea where I might have found it? I checked the wiki already, and asked ubotu
[08:42] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install gift
[08:43] <geneo93> !gift
[08:43] <ubotu> geneo93: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:44] <geneo93> ubotu:  have another beer
[08:44] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, geneo93
[08:44] <steveire> Yeah sure I'll just go for it with common sense. There's some configuation script I'll have a look at...
[08:52] <cox377> does anyone have any idea to share a drive to both linux and windows systems
[08:52] <cox377> it seems i can only share to windows and i cant select the NFS option
[08:54] <root_> ciao
[08:54] <root_> sono uno nuovo di kubuntu
[08:54] <jme__> if nfs doesnt work, you may try 'samba'
[08:55] <jme__> root_: this is english speaking here, is there a #kubuntu-it ?
[08:55] <jme__> root_: i just checked, there is a #kubuntu-it with 45 people on it
[08:55] <jme__> all speaking italian :)
[08:56] <geneo93> you sure its not french
[08:56] <geneo93> ha
[08:57] <cox377> jme_: basically, i've got the point where i've got the windows boxes talking to the linux boxes and visa versa
[08:57] <cox377> but the linux wont speak to the link
[08:57] <cox377> i can see the intial share folders but it just says
[08:57] <cox377> "xyz folder does not exist"
[08:58] <jme__> cox377: sorry cant help you with that
[08:58] <cox377> and when i check the share options NFS has a big red X next to it
[08:58] <cox377> :s
[09:08] <jvin248> Hi.  I'm running LTSP on Kubuntu Dapper (& Breezy).  None of my 'non-prime' users are able to log in at the client screen (the client does the login screen-X-login screen cycle).  The server prime user can log in and fully operate from both the server & client. Any suggestions on where I should look/test/experiment with to get secondary accounts to log in (I created the secondary accounts under "System Settings/Users & Groups")? Th
[09:13] <SeanTater> jvin248: okay -- what do you mean by prime- and non-prime?
[09:13] <SeanTater> jvin248: root versus everyone else?
[09:14] <SeanTater> jvin248: Then again -- I have no idea what LTSP is
[09:14] <h3sp4wn> jvin248: #edubuntu knows most about ltsp
[09:15] <cox377> is there a specific room for networking?
[09:15] <h3sp4wn> What do you need to know about networking ?
[09:17] <michel> i would like to know if gcc is automaticly installed with kubuntu 6.06?
[09:17] <geneo93> no
[09:17] <michel> what should i do to install it?
[09:18] <geneo93> michel:  build-essential
[09:18] <geneo93> sudo apt-get build-essential
[09:20] <michel> thank you
[09:20] <michel> but firefox is onboard?
[09:20] <geneo93> no not by default
[09:20] <michel> hmm
[09:21] <geneo93> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[09:21] <michel> sudo apt-get mozilla-firefox?
[09:21] <michel> hehe
[09:21] <geneo93> damn install
[09:21] <michel> ok thx
[09:21] <geneo93> fingers are faster then brain
[09:22] <kumamako> hi folks. i have trouble starting kubuntu. i think its because i have 2 vga cards but using on windows just fine. anyone got any ideas how can i settle this thing?
[09:22] <geneo93> kumamako:  you can blacklist one
[09:23] <kumamako> how do i blacklist one?
[09:23] <ubuntu> hi
[09:23] <ubuntu> can someone help me find my hard drives? :-/
[09:24] <geneo93> in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:26] <ubuntu> and how do i mount my NTFS partitions?
[09:26] <vito> hey
[09:26] <geneo93> !ntfs
[09:26] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:26] <vito> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[09:26] <vito> what is the package that i need to install to remove this error?
[09:28] <steveire> !skype
[09:28] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:28] <kumamako> geneo93: sorry but am a really a linux newbie. im running kubuntu now on the live cd i think. this live cd worked because i unpluged the first agp card. now i think its utilizing the on board vga as when i got 2 together, the startup hangs. so what are the exact things i should do that blacklisting thingy?
[09:29] <steveire> I can't find skype in seveas repositories
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> kumamako: Just disable the onboard vga in the bios if you don't use 2 monitors
[09:29] <monkey__> if someone had to say the most valuable skills that you could have with a computer what would they be>
[09:30] <geneo93> good at nothing but wasting time here
[09:31] <kumamako> h3sp4wn: but i would want to use 2 monitor. i came across this program called xinerama which can utilize dual monitor. the problem is, i cant even install now.
[09:31] <steveire> Do I have to get skype from skype.com or something?
[09:31] <psykodelike> use adept
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> kumamako: Even with text based installer ?
[09:31] <psykodelike> apt-get skype
[09:31] <kumamako> h3sp4wn: yup. it hangs.
[09:32] <kumamako> it says something like kernel panic
[09:32] <sukh> kubuntu is so slow, why does it run stuff like rsync,etc by default
[09:32] <psykodelike> man the new kubuntu is awesome
[09:32] <geneo93> kumamako:  what card you have
[09:32] <steveire> no skype package
[09:33] <kumamako> 1 on board vga (on windows its called intel extreme), and a 64mb geforce mx
[09:34] <geneo93> have you installed nvidia-glx
[09:34] <angasule> where can I see a list of the packages in dapper drake? specifically I want to check if qt 4.1 and corresponding pyqt version are available (I haven't yet switched to dapper drake)
[09:35] <kumamako> nvidia-glx? where should i install that? on this live cd?
[09:35] <geneo93> qt4.1 no
[09:35] <steveire> I can't find it on seveas either
[09:35] <angasule> just qt4.0? I could really use the svg stuff :/ how about pyqt4.x?
[09:36] <geneo93> kumamako:  no live cd wont work
[09:36] <geneo93> angasule:  leme looksee
[09:36] <kumamako> geneo93: so what should i do exactly now?
[09:36] <angasule> thanks geneo93
[09:37] <omeow> Is there a way to stop Kubuntu from playing my microphone over the main soundsystem, but still let it record stuff?
[09:37] <geneo93> well if you have onboard disabled try reboot
[09:37] <omeow> It's rather annoying hearing myself amplified like this.
[09:37] <geneo93> or try vesa at boot
[09:37] <kumamako> after dat?
[09:38] <geneo93> angasule:  no
[09:38] <billytwowilly> anyone have a howto for getting xgl/compiz working with kubuntu?
[09:39] <geneo93> angasule:  this is heavilly python based system
[09:40] <angasule> geneo93: I don't understand, isn't that a reason in favour of pyqt4?
[09:40] <geneo93> well qt 4 isnt used to do this release
[09:41] <angasule> oh, yes, I understand that, your comment about this being a python based system confused me, that's all
[09:41] <geneo93> angasule:  3.3.6 is used by default
[09:42] <angasule> thanks geneo93 :)
[09:42] <Phoenix92x> hi, Im running dapper on a latitude D610 and having no end of troubles with a process called gam_server ALWAYS eating up at least 20% of my CPU, what can I do about this?
[09:43] <geneo93> just has qt4 designer and limquist
[09:43] <kumamako> geneo93: so if i disable the onboard vga, i just install kubuntu first and activate back onboard vga for use wit xinerama. everything should work out fine right? it wont try to probe and hang the system like usual right?
[09:43] <ubuntu> !mp3
[09:43] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:43] <steveire> skype?
[09:43] <sukh> how can i speed up kubuntu
[09:43] <geneo93> kumamako:  that should work
[09:44] <geneo93> bbiab
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> sukh: You could try using the ck kernel patches
[09:48] <Phoenix92x> the problem with gam_server eating up the CPU for no reason is made especially bad by the fact that this is a laptop and I kind of /like/ my battery life
[09:51] <geneo93> Phoenix92x:  maybe you can turn it off in system settings services
[09:52] <Phoenix92x> geneo93: fabulous idea, I should have thought of it
[09:52] <geneo93> its not in my list
[09:56] <winbond> hello hello hello
[09:57] <winbond> how can i enter command mode before the xserver loads without running the recover mode???
[09:59] <JavaByte> alt F2 possibly
[09:59] <JavaByte> or is it Ctrl + Alt + F2
[10:00] <JavaByte> something like that
[10:01] <DrBair> has anyone else had issues with arK refusing to do random things
[10:02] <winbond> thanks java . ill try this out
[10:04] <steveire> packages are not being upgraded by aptitude. anyone know why?
[10:04] <steveire> It says there are two packages upgradable, but it doesn't upgrade them
[10:12] <jvin248> SeanTater: I used the term "prime" as the first user account created during OS installation (I'm sure there is an official title that I missed).  LTSP is "linux terminal server project" and is used for a client-server network (use a "new" desktop as the server and run many old cheap clients like Pentium Is & IIs around the house/business as client workstations for input and display only)...  found the problem - the secondary users
[10:12] <jvin248>  which works on server but LTSP clients can't handle the routine.  After logging in new users on the server and changing password then the new user can login at the clients ok.
[10:18] <mindspit> Hallo!  in order to use Skype in kubuntu is it better to install OSS than ALSA as a sound server ?
[10:21] <thompa> my screen is locking uo in opengl somewhat after upgrade
[10:21] <mindspit> Hello! in order to use Skype in kubuntu is it better to install OSS than ALSA as a sound server ? can ypu answer me ?
[10:22] <thompa> hod do i reconfigure xorg?
[10:22] <thompa> nvidia is there, the driver, but framerate has lost
[10:22] <Official_C> anyone here have the book: "A practical guide to Linux" by Mark Sobell
[10:22] <SeanTater> thompa: sure you have the proprietary driver?
[10:23] <SeanTater> Official_C: Nope -- not me
[10:23] <Official_C> ever hear of it
[10:23] <Official_C> >
[10:23] <Official_C> ?
[10:23] <thompa> since some upgrade nvidia is not working
[10:23] <SeanTater> Official_C: nope-- never heard of it
[10:23] <Official_C> do you have any Linux books
[10:23] <thompa> i just did nvidia-glx some weeks ago, all was fine till today
[10:23] <SeanTater> thompa: okay -- if you want to reconfigure xorg, do the following
[10:24] <SeanTater> Official_C: Nope -- never have, but I've learnt quit a bit otherwise
[10:24] <thompa> i never had nvidia logo but it worked before
[10:24] <mindspit> we must get a life!
[10:24] <FisherP> geneo93 goodmorning.... sounds like someone else hase problems with nvidia
[10:24] <SeanTater> thompa: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:24] <thompa> thanks
[10:24] <SeanTater> mindspit: ALSA is probably better
[10:25] <Official_C> SeanTater: do you read guides at the Linux Documentation Project website?
[10:25] <SeanTater> Official_C: I just noticed it existed about a week ago -- needless to say -- no
[10:25] <Official_C> oh
[10:25] <SeanTater> Official_C: what to know how I learned?
[10:26] <Official_C> how
[10:26] <Official_C> just by using it?
[10:26] <SeanTater> Official_C: Make another partition or find another computer, and install linux on it
[10:26] <Official_C> i am using linux right now
[10:26] <Official_C> i already know the basics
[10:26] <Official_C> im looking to take the next step
[10:26] <SeanTater> Official_C: Then you play  until you figure everything out
[10:26] <steveire> how do I find a file called foo if I don't know where it is? find foo?
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> whereis foo
[10:26] <SeanTater> Official_C: Start with BASH -- the Python
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> or locate foo
[10:27] <SeanTater> Official_C: Set up a web server just becasuee you want to know how..
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> or install krusader [twin panel filemanager like totelcmdr]  and it can find from gui...
[10:27] <Official_C> SeanTater: yes, i have been, but i dont believe it is posible to learn EVERYTHING without some documentation/tutorials
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> or, midnightcommander [mc]  [Escape]  + [?]
[10:27] <steveire> it's not a binary. It's just a text file, and might be on my fat partition somewhere i think
[10:27] <gil> i need some help with my screensavers
[10:27] <steveire> Can't find it though
[10:28] <steveire> find foo doesn't find anything
[10:28] <gil> somne of the opengl ones only run at 1/3 of the screen
[10:28] <gil> any help?
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> alt enter?
[10:28] <SeanTater> Official_C: I read the BASH and Python manuals
[10:28] <SeanTater> Official_C: look through gnu.org and docs.python.org
[10:29] <SeanTater> Official_C: I think I will learn some sql, perhaps from w3schools.com
[10:29] <gil> help with open GL anyone?
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> SeanTater: programming perl and advanced perl are the only two books on scripting type stuff you need
[10:32] <Official_C> SeanTater: do you run a server?
[10:32] <JavaByte> whats the install path to install Flash into konquerer
[10:32] <Kyral> SeanTater: MySQL In A NutShell from OReilly is all you need for SQL :P
[10:32] <gil> ok....
[10:33] <gil> will anyone tell my what the open Gl Lib /headers are?
[10:33] <gil> which should be installed???!!
[10:33] <Kyral> GLUT?
[10:33] <gil> ok
[10:33] <JavaByte> nah GLUT's an extension to open GL
[10:34] <Official_C> anyone here run a server of any type?
[10:34] <Kyral> What do I know, I'm a SysAdmin :P
[10:34] <Kyral> Official_C: thats a BIG definition
[10:34] <Kyral> but yes I do
[10:34] <Kyral> I assume you mean like LAMP
[10:34] <Kyral> or MailServs
[10:34] <Official_C> do you have a regular subscription to your ISP?
[10:34] <JavaByte> well it is - thats all - i mean it's not open GL - it's open GL + extras
[10:35] <Kyral> "regular subscription"
[10:35] <Kyral> wtf is that?
[10:35] <Official_C> are you allowed to run a server with a basic ISP subscription?
[10:35] <Kyral> I run it from college :D
[10:35] <Kyral> ;P
[10:36] <Official_C> Kyral: what i mean by regular subscription is an average amount of bandwidth
[10:36] <JavaByte> in fact it runs ontop of the openGL lib - so it's an extension like i said !!
[10:36] <Kyral> I have no idea, I never tried to run it from home
[10:36] <Official_C> the type of subsciption a normal client user would get
[10:36] <Kyral> I assume that if you don't generate too much traffic they won't notice...most ISPs documentation on that kinda thing is shit
[10:37] <gil> ok well...what is the openGL lib that  i should install
[10:37] <gil> ?
[10:37] <Official_C> oh ok
[10:37] <JavaByte> gil: should be as simple as typing openGL into adept
[10:37] <Kyral> or intended to drive you to "business" class shit
[10:37] <Kyral> with stupider support
[10:38] <gil> ok
[10:38] <Official_C> kyral: indeed i can
[10:38] <Kyral> "We will give you a static IP!" Idiots they KNOW that if you don't yank the cable modem from the wall your IP remains the same
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: You can get high quality hosting you just have to be willing to pay decent money for it
[10:39] <Kyral> Hosting?
[10:39] <Kyral> Dude I run my own server
[10:39] <Official_C> to some people id imagine it is worth it
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> Co location
[10:39] <Kyral> I just need the pipe to the Net!
[10:39] <Kyral> and I'm trying to find out how I can do it myself too :P
[10:40] <Official_C> Kyral:  pipe to the net??
[10:40] <Kyral> Yah
[10:40] <Official_C> Kyral: what do you mean?
[10:40] <DoctorMO> hey all
[10:40] <rdt> Kyral, are you on a cable modem?
[10:40] <Kyral> my reasoning is "What makes ISPs so special that they get to control Net access? What do they do that we can't"
[10:40] <Kyral> at home yes
[10:40] <DoctorMO> what dll do I need to install to enable real media playback in totem?
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: Its useful for someone else to be monitoring the server other than yourself
[10:41] <Kyral> h3sp4wn: no it wouldn't
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: Are you awake 24/7 ?
[10:41] <Kyral> 1) I run Xen
[10:41] <Official_C> kyral: they are what make it possible to connect to larger nodes
[10:41] <jme__> DoctorMO: google for 'ubuntu restricted format' you will get a page explaining it
[10:41] <Kyral> Official_C: Node? You mean DNS
[10:41] <Kyral> h3sp4wn: luckly my server doesn't need to be
[10:41] <rdt> Kyral, most ISP's have an ISP that they get service from (unless they are 'Tier 0')
[10:41] <DoctorMO> jme__: I've read it, wha do you want me to understand?
[10:42] <jme__> DoctorMO: the solution to your problem :)
[10:42] <Kyral> and even if it does go down in the middle of the night, I'll bring it up in the morning
[10:42] <jme__> Kyral: what it your issue ?
[10:42] <DoctorMO> jme__: it talks about installing gstream ugly formats, done... no real media playback
[10:42] <Kyral> jme__: huh?
[10:42] <Official_C> Kyral: doesnt it go to larger and larger nodes?
[10:42] <Kyral> Official_C: define "node"
[10:42] <jme__> Kyral: ok let me rephrase, what are you talking about :)
[10:43] <jme__> DoctorMO: so i dunno
[10:43] <Kyral> jme__: I dunno...I was helping then got into a rant about how stupid and profit driven corporate America is
[10:43] <Official_C> i guess kind of like a relay...since if you are sending data across the world, at some point, a satellite would have to be used
[10:44] <jme__> Kyral: ah ok :)
[10:44] <Official_C> please forgive me if i sound ignorant, i dont know too much on the subject
[10:44] <Official_C> thats why i'm asking
[10:44] <JavaByte> gil: i've just had a look and i can't figure it either - there is not OpenGL1.5 lib no OpenGL2 lib and no GLX lib only GLUT and other extensions - i guess therefore that i was wrong and you do need GLUT though that is in fact OpenGL Utility Toolkit which is not OpenGL or a library!!!
[10:44] <jme__> Official_C: sattelit doesnt have to be used. in fact this is avoidded when possible
[10:44] <Kyral> Its just that it seems like most ISP websites are designed for the masses, aka idiots (apology if I offend)
[10:45] <Official_C> they use underwater lines?
[10:45] <Kyral> with NO way for people who want streight tech answers to find it
[10:45] <jme__> Official_C: satellite communication have 'high latency' which make them unsuitable for common internet use
[10:45] <jme__> Official_C: ye
[10:45] <jme__> s
[10:45] <macd> thats b/c ISP's dont give you the answrs you need, technicly, remember most ISP users are end users.
[10:45] <Kyral> hehe don't get me started on end users
[10:46] <Official_C> jme: yeah i figured there would probably be a latency issue with satellites,thats why i was kinda curious
[10:46] <macd> without end users wed all be out of work.
[10:46] <Kyral> They hire you because you know more about the situation than they do
[10:46] <Kyral> then they try to act like they know more
[10:46] <macd> thats what management does.
[10:46] <macd> welcome to the real world :P
[10:46] <Official_C> its just crazy when you think there are lines running sompletely across the atlantic ocean
[10:46] <Kyral> yah the real world bites
[10:46] <Kyral> I'll be over here in GNU Land :D
[10:46] <macd> Official_C: where else would you have them :P
[10:47] <jme__> Official_C: well satellite seem even more crazy :)
[10:47] <Kyral> TCP/IP by Pigeon
[10:47] <Official_C> i guess its just the "physical" aspect of the cables
[10:47] <macd> microwave links are fairly fast with low latency, its these silly hughes systems for soho internet that have no QoS
[10:47] <Official_C> macd: i just felt a breeze over my head
[10:48] <macd> yeah sometimes that happens
[10:48] <Kyral> Corporate America has to understand
[10:48] <Official_C> lol
[10:48] <Kyral> that they cannot control the Net
[10:48] <Kyral> its OUR playground
[10:48] <nnn0> oh they can ;)
[10:48] <macd> corporate america paved the way to the internet
[10:48] <Kyral> they try
[10:48] <macd> and built it
[10:48] <Kyral> macd: not true
[10:48] <nnn0> don't underestimate the power of the dark side