[03:25] <Bevo> anyone running icewm
[04:11] <LucidFox> How do I configure external protocol handlers?
[04:12] <LucidFox> For example, I'd like apt: to use apturl.
[04:36] <LucidFox> I fixed it, more or less, by setting gnome-open as the browser in Preferred Applications, but it seems like a terrible hack
[04:57] <paulmops> Evening all, I have a question about setting up wifi.
[04:57] <paulmops> under normal vanilla ubuntu, my wifi works fine (after installing the driver).
[04:58] <paulmops> however, I just installed xubuntu, and everything goes well up until I install the driver.
[04:58] <paulmops> after which point, I'm unable to view any networks around me
[04:59] <paulmops> sad face :(
[05:29]  * j1mc hugs #xubuntu
[06:01] <_Techie_> does anyone in here have experience with the DuoX2 modchip?
[06:02] <_Techie_> whoops wrong chan
[06:03] <knome> ;)
[06:05] <_Techie_> wow nickserv is running slow tonight
[06:05] <_Techie_> only just got, -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[06:05] <knome> yeah. they're experiencing a ddos attack
[06:05] <_Techie_> fun fun
[06:06] <knome> yep :P
[06:16] <photobug21> hey I have to say I like xubuntu
[06:16] <photobug21> running it off my 8GB flash drive
[06:16] <_Techie_> grats, is it karmic that your running off of it
[06:17] <photobug21> yes
[06:17] <photobug21> thanks :)
[06:17] <_Techie_> i personaly was really put off using karmic on a USB
[06:18] <_Techie_> as the only way to get it booting perfectly on every pc is to make a persistant copy of the livecd
[06:18] <_Techie_> however karmic recreates the ubuntu user at boot, so any files i had on my drive were absolutely unprotected
[06:19] <photobug21> Oh try www.pendrivelinux.com
[06:19] <_Techie_> been there done that
[06:19] <photobug21> you need windows currently to make the live usb with persistence
[06:19] <photobug21> mine works
[06:19] <_Techie_> mine did too
[06:20] <photobug21> Ok I didn't understand hehe
[06:20] <_Techie_> well up untill i managed to brick my USB drive
[06:20] <photobug21> so by unprotected what do you mean?
[06:20] <photobug21> oh ok
[06:20] <photobug21> yeah I have to remember to backup
[06:20] <_Techie_> when i say unprotected, people could boot it and log in without a password
[06:20] <photobug21> I currently broke my apt-get when it froze and I hit reset
[06:20] <photobug21> have to boot into recovery in a bit and do repair broken packages
[06:20] <photobug21> Oh yeah
[06:21] <_Techie_> i had a jaunty install that was all passworded up perfectly
[06:21] <photobug21> so creating a user account, logging out and logging in doesn't work?
[06:21] <photobug21> it didn't so far
[06:21] <_Techie_> nope, it wont
[06:21] <_Techie_> i usually modify the default account
[06:21] <photobug21> Weird I tried Linux Mint 8 and it worked fine
[06:21] <photobug21> just wanted to try this it has a lightweight window manager
[06:22] <photobug21> that is a pain
[06:22] <photobug21> I want the user thing to work
[06:22] <photobug21> but otherwise it's faster than Linux Mint 8 since 8 uses Gnome
[06:22] <photobug21> and I've got a really old desktop
[06:23] <_Techie_> i want to try linux on my xbox sometime
[06:23] <photobug21> yeah that'd be nice
[06:24] <_Techie_> i already have a web browser for it
[06:24] <photobug21> I don't have an xbox right now
[06:24] <photobug21> cool
[06:24] <_Techie_> did you used to have one?
[06:25] <photobug21> nope
[06:25] <photobug21> never owned a console
[06:25] <photobug21> other than an old TI that took cartridges
[06:26] <photobug21> had an atari 2600 and radio shack pong
[06:26] <photobug21> shared it with siblings
[06:26] <photobug21> and sega genesis
[06:26] <photobug21> brb I have to reboot and repair these packages I need open office
[06:26] <photobug21> btw nice to meet you :)
[06:26] <_Techie_> same
[06:26] <photobug21> brb :)
[06:50] <photobug21> back
[06:50] <photobug21> there's no recovery feature on the usb flash version of xubuntu hehe
[06:53] <photobug21> brb
[06:55] <Balsaq> yo _Techie_
[06:55] <_Techie_> yo Balsaq
[07:20] <photobug4nature> Hello, is there a live usb xubuntu help channel here or does this work?
[07:21] <photobug21> oops I didn't know freenode hooked up to this
[07:21] <photobug21> but looking for help with liveusb
[08:35] <KonataFB> hey
[08:37] <KonataFB> anyone had a problem with install, where the text is in a unreadble small font so tis mroe or less skipping pixles lol, (this install on ps3 so unsure if it a specific ps3 compat problem)
[08:37] <KonataFB> i can use the wizard i just can;t read it lol
[09:14] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. does one need to use gnome libraries to run OpenOffice on Xubuntu ? I'm trying to keep my very-old-system atleast partially usable ...
[09:26] <KonataFB> apparently the installer ahtes my tv :D leaste i can install useing my comp monitor
[15:01] <bittin__> Hello, if i change my Xorg to something over 800x600 i can't see my mouse pointer what might be wrong then? in Debian
[15:42] <BVC> can someone help me with an xubu install?
[15:42] <Balsaq> will try our best
[15:43] <BVC> I downloaded and burnt the new xubu, it runs with the live cd, but..
[15:43] <Balsaq> uh oh
[15:44] <BVC> when i formatted and tryed to install on the hard drive it locks up at Grub Loading stage1.5
[15:44] <Balsaq> is it 9.01?
[15:44] <Balsaq> 9.10 i mean
[15:45] <BVC> hold i have to go
[15:45] <Balsaq> was nice doing business with u...
[16:08] <Balsaq> are you trying to install linux with windows?
[18:35] <likemindead> These netsplits are getting ridiculous...
[19:45] <likemindead> Whee!
[19:45] <likemindead> Jeez... did someone piss off Anonymous or /b/ or something? 0__o
[20:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello folks
[20:34] <photobug21> hi!
[20:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm a new user in Xubuntu.
[20:34] <photobug21> It's nice
[20:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> Using Windows XP only for games now and Xubuntu for else :-)
[20:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> so...I have a problem with the login screen which kinda bothers me
[20:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> I have to login several times til I get to the desktop
[20:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> I read in one thread on the net that might be a problem with not using the def. resolution
[20:36] <photobug21> Yeah it's decent and that'll be fixed soon I bet
[20:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> but I don't wanna change the res. since I'm comfortable working with it
[20:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm ok.
[20:37] <photobug21> Yeah if it works must not be wrong
[20:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> its just kinda annoying *laughs* once I had to login about 20 times...
[20:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> but other than that I really like Xubuntu :-)
[20:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok fixing meal...cu later
[20:40] <photobug21> oh man right now trying linux mint, my xubuntu on flash drive got borked
[20:40] <photobug21> same thing but xubuntu is faster
[20:40] <photobug21> lightweight window manager
[20:40] <Siechtum_away> I see
[20:40] <photobug21> Linux Mint 8 is based on ubuntu
[20:40] <photobug21> but I want xubuntu for my flash drive
[20:41] <photobug21> works on more hardware
[20:43] <Siechtum_away> I bet
[20:44] <Siechtum_away> hmm I was wondering...whats the main difference between xubuntu and Kubuntu? (except based on Gnome and KDE)
[20:44] <Siechtum_away> or differences
[20:45] <photobug21> Xubuntu is actually XFCE but not much diff I guess
[20:45] <photobug21> Not sure
[20:45] <photobug21> I never read their faq
[20:45] <Siechtum_away> I just read the wiki entry on both
[20:46] <Siechtum_away> so do you use Linux distros also for gaming?
[20:46] <photobug21> Nope but used to with cedega
[20:47] <photobug21> my nvidia card broke
[20:47] <photobug21> I have a super old ATI in this now
[20:47] <Siechtum_away> that sucks.
[20:47] <Siechtum_away> oh thats funny...some month ago my old ATI Radeon card broke...I got an nvidia card now
[20:47] <photobug21> yeah hehe I don't enjoy gaming so much now
[20:47] <photobug21> I do like photography though
[20:47] <Siechtum_away> oh I do too
[20:48] <Siechtum_away> I really need some good photo equipment
[20:48] <photobug21> You can use a point and shoot to take good photos
[20:48] <photobug21> check out my flickr I have a low end Nikon
[20:48] <photobug21> http://www.flickr.com/sunlizard4sun
[20:50] <Siechtum_away> hmm it tells me the link is invalid
[20:50] <Siechtum_away> "point and shoot"?
[20:50] <photobug21> weird
[20:50] <Siechtum_away> yeah
[20:50] <photobug21> try sunlizard4fun
[20:51] <photobug21> oops
[20:55] <Siechtum_away> works
[20:55] <Siechtum_away> alright cu later...eating now..
[20:55] <photobug21> cool my nevada and salt lake photos are the good ones
[20:55] <photobug21> ok cya
[21:08] <photobug21> bbl
[23:41] <dbdii407> What's Feh? I get that as an option when opening an image
[23:49] <likemindead> Feh sucks. Ristretto is much better IMHO.


[05:29] <cpaelzer> good morning
[05:44] <pitti> Good morning
[06:22] <flexiondotorg> pitti, If at all possible can you cast an eye over the SRUs we discussed last week? I'd really like to see them included in 16.04.1
[06:22] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1574789
[06:23] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1581168
[06:23] <pitti> flexiondotorg: so mate-settings looks good and is verified, and can land in 3 days
[06:24] <flexiondotorg> Great.
[06:24] <pitti> flexiondotorg: and it seems nobody accepted mate-artwork from the queue
[06:26] <pitti> flexiondotorg: I assume bug 1052936 is fixed in yakkety? please mark accordingly
[06:26] <pitti> this is still open in y
[06:26] <pitti> flexiondotorg: accepted m-artwork for xenial (but needs updating this ^)
[06:26] <flexiondotorg> If it.
[06:26] <flexiondotorg> And marked now.
[06:27] <pitti> danke
[06:27] <flexiondotorg> No, thank you :-)
[07:36] <tsimonq2> greetings, I have a bug fix attached to bug 1423326 but I don't have upload permissions and it needs a sponsor. Could somebody please take a loog?
[07:36] <tsimonq2> *look
[09:41] <jtaylor> hm there might be a problem in the xenial docker update
[09:41] <jtaylor> can someone test something for me to confirm? just build a container from: FROM centos:6\n RUN echo test
[09:43] <jtaylor> I get /bin/sh not found, also from ubuntu base images, I'm pretty sure it worked before the update
[09:49] <jtaylor> hm nevermind seems to have been an artifact of not restarting the daemon probably
[09:50] <jtaylor> maybe a NEWS entry would be good
[09:51]  * jtaylor adds that to the bug
[09:58] <flexiondotorg> pitti, I've just tested the ubuntu-mate-artwork update in a clean VM built from todays Xenial daily
[09:58] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1581168
[10:11] <caribou> pitti: Are packages synced from Debian have their autopkgtest run when pulled in ?
[10:12] <pitti> caribou: yes
[10:12] <caribou> pitti: thought so
[10:21] <mwhudson> jtaylor: thanks for the comment, i'll see about adding a note indeed, it's a bit of a footgun
[10:59] <Laney> pitti: britney merge> yay!
[11:06] <pitti> Laney: what a pain :)
[12:13] <LocutusOfBorg> hi, do anybody have any idea for expat and python3.5/python2.7 testsuite failure?
[12:13] <LocutusOfBorg> I admit I don't know how to debug it
[12:13] <LocutusOfBorg> seems really a bug in expat
[12:23] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: right, it seems the new expat changed/fixed the line counting, and now the expected error message changed
[12:23] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: so looking at the python test to see whether it *should* be line 13 (as before) or 14 (as of now) should tell :)
[12:23] <pitti> i. e. whether it's an expat fix (then python tests need an update) or an expat regression
[12:30] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, I already did that
[12:30] <LocutusOfBorg> and to me it seems an expat regression
[12:32] <LocutusOfBorg> https://sources.debian.net/src/python2.7/2.7.12-1/Lib/test/test_pyexpat.py/#L611
[12:32] <LocutusOfBorg> it seems really 14 to me
[12:33] <LocutusOfBorg> also here https://sources.debian.net/src/python3.5/3.5.2-2/Lib/test/test_pyexpat.py/#L657
[12:33] <LocutusOfBorg> this is why I would like to send an upstream bug to expat folks
[12:34] <LocutusOfBorg> OOPS https://bugs.python.org/file43515/0001-Fix-Python-3.x.x-tests-for-Expat-2.2.0.patch
[12:34] <LocutusOfBorg> so, I'll ping doko about updating the teststuite :(
[12:40] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, question: I asked doko to fix the testsuite, but since the testsuite is broken, and upstream is aware, what about ignoring tests for this time and let it migrate? :)
[12:41] <LocutusOfBorg> the only test failing is that one
[12:44] <LocutusOfBorg> oops they didn't have applied the patch yet on the branch
[12:44] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: which bugs.python.org # does that belong to? (for the comment)
[12:44] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: is expat blocking anything else?
[12:45] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.python.org/issue27369
[12:45] <LocutusOfBorg> seems really a Python fault, according to the bug
[12:46] <pitti> thanks
[12:46] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: yes, seems fine; note that doko is on vacation
[12:47] <LocutusOfBorg> I honestly don't know what is blocking, but it is in main, and I like to see my things migrating :p
[12:49] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: right, I'm mostly just concerned about a lot of things now failing due to an apparent python regression; i. e. would be better to actually fix python right away
[12:50] <LocutusOfBorg> I can't, I should wait for doko :(
[12:50] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: happy to sponsor
[12:50] <LocutusOfBorg> but meh, I'm not worried for that expat anymore now :)
[12:50] <LocutusOfBorg> oh... ubuntu delta?
[12:50] <LocutusOfBorg> right, hold on
[12:50] <pitti> just really busy ATM, so I'm afraid I don't have time to update this myself
[12:50] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: it's temporary only, so it's ok
[12:51] <LocutusOfBorg> yes, I can agree
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, I sent debdiffs by email
[13:01] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: perfect, thanks! please let me know once your build finishes, then I'll upload this
[13:02] <LocutusOfBorg> ack
[13:02] <LocutusOfBorg> FWIW you can also grab debdiffs from the ppa lol :)
[13:25] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, fine https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+build/10454431
[13:26] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: yay, thanks!
[13:27] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks to you :) and don't forget to run testsuite against proposed :p
[13:27] <pitti> I will, once it built/published
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> I see the same testsuite runs in dh_auto_test
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> so I can presume we are good
[13:28] <pitti> right, and builds happen against -proposed; the build log should tell you the expat version
[13:28] <pitti> oh, your PPA might not enable -proposed
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> exactly
[13:28] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: uploaded, thanks!
[13:31] <LocutusOfBorg> IIRC it has it enabled
[13:33] <LocutusOfBorg> Get:81 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety-proposed/main arm64 libexpat1-dev arm64 2.2.0-1 [104 kB]
[13:33] <LocutusOfBorg> confirmed
[14:10] <smoser> anyone know why i see this when using eatmydata for atpg-et install
[14:10] <smoser> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libeatmydata.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[14:10] <rbasak> smoser: I've seen that, but I presumed that LD_PRELOAD got passed into a container or something where libeatmydata.so no longer existed in that filesystem namespace.
[14:11] <smoser> but it most certainly does exist.
[14:11] <rbasak> What does $LD_PRELOAD say? And ldd that?
[14:13] <smoser> well, heres a recreate:
[14:14] <smoser> lxc launch xenial x1
[14:14] <smoser> lxc exec x1 -- eatmydata apt-get install --assume-yes libvirt-bin
[14:26] <dobey> cjwatson, mvo_: hey, does click unpack stuff to /tmp and then mv to destination? or do something else with /tmp?
[14:29] <cjwatson> dobey: it's been a long time, but that would be a weird and surprising thing for it to do given that it's potentially a different filesystem and might cause atomicity headaches; I don't think I would have done that
[14:29] <cjwatson> dobey: "click verify" will unpack the package to a tmpdir, and there may be other paths that do that kind of thing
[14:30] <dobey> cjwatson: ok, just wanted to check. got a few complaints about /tmp filling up when installing a very large .click package, and trying to figure out what's going on exactly
[14:31] <cjwatson> dobey: not sure what that would be, unless something is explicitly calling verify first
[14:31] <cjwatson> which seems unlikely
[14:31] <dobey> yeah, we don't do that in the click scope i'm pretty sure. we just do "pkcon install-local foo.click"
[14:32] <cjwatson> probably an strace job to figure that out
[14:32] <dobey> yeah
[14:34] <cjwatson> I think dpkg-deb extracts the control area to a temporary directory, but that shouldn't be large
[14:34] <mvo_> dobey: iirc debsig-verify will unpack the signed bits into /tmp to verify them
[14:34] <cjwatson> ah, that could do it ...
[14:35] <dobey> oh
[14:35] <dobey> maybe we need to make /tmp not be tmpfs on the phone images then
[14:36] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: mate-hud> do you have a link to our previous discussion please?
[14:37] <flexiondotorg> rbasak, Maybe. I'll go hunting...
[14:37] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: sorry I don't remember it. I believe that we discussed it, but I'd like to remind myself of any context.
[14:39] <flexiondotorg> rbasak, My question: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/01/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t08:24
[14:39] <flexiondotorg> rbasak, You're reply - https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/01/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t10:18
[14:39] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: thanks!
[14:39] <flexiondotorg> Or Your reply even.
[14:39] <mvo_> dobey: yeah, or use /var/tmp just for debsig-verify (if that is on a real FS)
[14:41] <dobey> mvo_: /var/tmp is in the read-only partition
[14:42] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, I was wondering, python should migrate anyway, regardless of expat, so I guess there is no need to retry them against proposed, but just see python migrate and retry them
[14:42] <LocutusOfBorg> am I correct?
[14:42] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: correct
[14:44] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: looks like I don't know what I'm doing, sorry :-/
[14:45] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: I thought MATE was a set automatically generated from the seed, but it's not in https://bitbucket.org/ubuntu-mate/mate-hud
[14:45] <rbasak> Uh, not in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+junk/packageset/view/head:/packageset-report
[14:45] <flexiondotorg> Yeah, I saw that. Derived from the seeds.
[14:46] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: I need to run, but I'll try and look again later and ask around for help. If I drop the ball, please ping me, or if you add it to the agenda before Monday's meeting, we can give someone an action to take care of it so we don't forget.
[14:46] <flexiondotorg> rbasak, OK. Thanks.
[14:46] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: +1 from me to add mate-hud to the MATE packageset, as it's obviously MATE only. So you don't need any more approval - I just don't know how to do it right now exactly.
[14:47] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: I'm also not sure what to do give it doesn't exist yet. You might need it sponsoring in so that it exists, then a seed change sponsored to seed it, and then the packagesets regenerated or something.
[14:48] <rbasak> *given
[14:48] <flexiondotorg> Understood.
[14:49] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: I'm stuck for time today, but I'd be happy to sponsor it for you tomorrow regardless of what we do about permissions in order to unblock you if that would be helpful.
[14:50] <flexiondotorg> Thanks!
[14:56] <Laney> rbasak: That looks like https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/+junk/packageset didn't get merged
[14:59] <rbasak> Laney: thanks, I'll look later
[15:20] <michael-vb> sladen: so looks like that "low graphics mode" problem was my bug after all.  Sorry for the noise.
[15:22] <sladen> michael-vb: what's important is that it gets tracked down and fixed.
[15:23] <sladen> michael-vb: could you write a full-debrief on the bug report of your present understanding how what is happening/where it needs fixing
[15:23] <michael-vb> Will do that, but the fix will be entirely in VirtualBox.
[15:23] <sladen> michael-vb: then this can all be tracked when new releases/patches are available and people can be pointed to the right versions,
[15:24] <michael-vb> Sure, will do that.
[15:25] <sladen> michael-vb: I did have a quick look this morning for libEGL/RTR3InitDll() etc and didn't immediately spot the cause, although there were a couple of possibilities, eg. around the env("DISPLAY") checking about server vs. client and the corresponding #ifdefs (from memory)
[15:27] <michael-vb> https://www.virtualbox.org/browser/vbox/trunk/src/VBox/Additions/common/crOpenGL/egl.c#L136
[15:29] <michael-vb> Our local tree now has another check for the DISPLAY variable before that.  Very hack-ish I know, and Debian and Ubuntu would have a better solution, but I prefer an ugly solution that works everywhere to individual solutions for everyone.
[15:29] <michael-vb> Basically we provide client-side but not server-side OpenGL, and have to prevent the server from loading the library.
[15:29] <michael-vb> Like NVIDIA do.
[15:30] <michael-vb> But they have a few more people working on it and probably a cleaner solution.
[15:30] <michael-vb> Maybe.
[15:31] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm studying right now a solution like nvidia does, more debian and ubuntu friendly
[15:31] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm reading nvidia-graphic-drivers/debian/*.postinst
[15:32] <LocutusOfBorg> I still have to implement that in vbox, but I'll do eventually :)
[15:33] <michael-vb> For the Debian Additions package you can use the official Debian method which is nice and clean.
[15:33] <michael-vb> Can't immediately remember what it was, but of course I did look at it.
[15:37] <LocutusOfBorg> michael-vb,
[15:37] <LocutusOfBorg> update-alternatives --force \
[15:37] <LocutusOfBorg>             --install /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf /usr/lib/nvidia-361/ld.so.conf 8604 \
[15:37] <LocutusOfBorg> this is what nvidia does
[15:37] <LocutusOfBorg> I have to do mostly the same
[15:38] <LocutusOfBorg> install two .conf files with the vbox directories
[15:38] <LocutusOfBorg> and update the default
[15:38] <michael-vb> Right, sounds nice and Debian-ish.
[15:38] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[15:39] <LocutusOfBorg> the problem is to install the conf file, to update alternatives again on prerm, to check dkms module
[15:39] <semiosis> Odd_Bloke: if you're around, can you spare a moment to look at the conversation slangasek and I had yesterday about 'manage_etc_hosts: localhost' in the ubuntu-cpc images?  https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/11/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t22:14
[15:39] <LocutusOfBorg> and most important *test everything* before uploading
[15:39] <LocutusOfBorg> and... ENOTIME :)
[15:39] <LocutusOfBorg> but I want to have the change for debian stretch
[15:39] <pitti> RAOF, arges: could you please review systemd/xenial? I uploaded it, so I can't self-review. thanks!
[15:48] <arges> pitti: ok i'll take a look in a bit
[16:24] <Laney> pitti: bos01 woes?
[16:26] <caribou> xnox: Is s390-tools still expected to set crashkernel= in /etc/zipl.conf ?
[16:26] <pitti> Laney: what, again?
[16:27] <pitti> arges: cheers!
[16:27] <Laney> pitti: 5 minutes ago or so
[16:27] <pitti> Laney: ah, I know: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml#queue-ubuntu-yakkety-ppc64el
[16:27] <pitti> this is bogus
[16:28] <pitti> this looks like using some outdated retry-autopkgtest-regressions script
[16:28] <pitti> Laney: cleaned these two and restarted
[16:29] <Laney> pitti: hmm
[16:29] <Laney> why did that kill it?
[16:30] <pitti> Laney: "autopkgtest exit with 1" is a Should Not HappenTM
[16:30]  * pitti tosses a lost compose key in there
[16:30] <pitti> Laney: "foo/1.2.3" is not a valid test spec, autopkgtest can't decipher what that means and exits with a CLI error
[16:31] <pitti> this could possibly be made more robust by ignoring/consuming and tossing away invalid test requests, but that would just  silently paper over problems somewhere else
[16:31] <pitti> not sure what to do with bogus queue entries..
[16:32] <coreycb> arges, bdmurray: hi, we have the following openstack SRUs in the queue if you have some time to chip away at them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19187967/
[16:32] <Laney> Doesn't feel that valuable to me to kill the workers in this case
[16:32] <pitti> but this is what an outdated retry-autopkgtest-regressions would produce, so I'm betting on that
[16:33] <pitti> Laney: I like to immediately kill a worker on exit code 1, as that's a "Should Not Happen"; i. e. the worker itself could check the package argument for sanity and presumably basic_reject() it
[16:33] <pitti> then it'd stay in the queue forever until someone looks and cleans up
[16:33] <pitti> that could be a better failure mode
[16:33] <pitti> but much less visible
[16:35] <Laney> pitti: For malformed input you know it's not going to work, so an option is to remove it from the queue and display this somewhere or mail it to us, or something
[16:35] <Laney> This rogue person is probably going to run r-a-r again at some point
[16:35] <pitti> Laney: yes, remove + mail sounds good
[17:12] <xnox> caribou, no. you said you are taking that into the other package that provides crashing functionality
[17:12] <xnox> i think I will need to remove that from installer & s390-tools to migrate over to crashdump package.
[17:13] <caribou> xnox: yes I did, I just thought I had to remove it from s390-tools so everything is fine
[17:13] <xnox> caribou, i can handle removal from s390-tools and installer.
[17:13] <xnox> caribou, is it in yakkety & xenial now? or just yakkety for now?
[17:13] <caribou> xnox: fine, the version in Yakkety will set it if it is absent & I'm about to SRU the same to Xenial
[17:13] <xnox> cool.
[17:14] <caribou> xnox: with the cio_ignore fix & a few other things
[17:14] <caribou> xnox: to xenial, it's already in Y
[17:14] <cpaelzer> is there a trivial way to send something into apport handling to test an apport hook of an upload?
[17:15] <cpaelzer> I thought sending a SIGSEGV, but thats not kicking in as I hoped
[17:15] <cpaelzer> maybe I just need to enable something, but if there is a common sequence let me know
[17:16] <cpaelzer> hmm, actually I think it would be enough to call apport-bug without a crash - consider it solved
[17:38] <pitti> cpaelzer: yes, report a bug and save it or look at the data in the expander, or SIGKILL the program if your hook is specific to a crash
[17:43] <seb128> sil2100, shrug, so you ignored my NEW review for repowerd and landed it despite the blocker issue I gave you and bypassed NEW? :-(
[19:01] <pitti> Laney: meh, next mass-killing; I guess I'll actually teach the workers to verify the test argument now..
[19:04] <pitti> oh, seems it's britney itself which does those -- http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#libtemplates-parser
[19:15] <pitti> nevermind, I was just reading this wrong
[19:34] <pitti> Laney: done
[19:44] <bdmurray> coreycb: Did you get anybody to look at those SRUs?
[19:44] <coreycb> bdmurray, hey, not yet
[19:56] <bdmurray> coreycb: Do you know why bug 1592865 was tagged v-done?
[19:57] <coreycb> bdmurray, that's a mistake, I updated the bug
[19:57] <coreycb> ddellav, ^
[19:58] <ddellav> coreycb ack
[20:54] <bdmurray> coreycb: could you add some comment about how you'll test stuff in bug 1501854
[20:54] <bdmurray> er 1601854
[21:02]  * kees has his eyes cross reading the gcc-5-cross debian/rules
[21:11] <bdmurray> coreycb: The ceilometer version would be greater than the one in yakkety...
[21:11] <coreycb> bdmurray, ok that's updated with test process
[21:12] <coreycb> bdmurray, hmm
[21:12] <coreycb> bdmurray, ok we need to fix that up then
[21:14] <bdmurray> coreycb: should I keep looking then or wait for ceilometer to be sorted?
[21:16] <coreycb> bdmurray, I could either drop ceilometer from that bug or else that bug is blocked by me until I situate ceilometer
[21:17] <coreycb> bdmurray, probably might as well leave ceilometer in that bug and I'll fix it up tomorrow


[04:23] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:31] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: " sysop@ubie1804:~$ cat /etc/issue >> buntu Bionic Beaver (development branch) \n \l " on a new secondary SSD :))
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> woot!
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu bionic?
[04:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: No .. got ubuntu installed .. have set up partuins to do a core install of 18.04 . // 18.04 ubuntu is slower than 16.04 xubuntu !
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> yep slower
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> slowsdown even on my fastest ssd's
[04:36] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Just started on wayland . got any thoughts on getting additional workspaces on wayland ?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: sorry no, all xorg here as wayland pretty unstable on all machines here
[04:37] <Bashing-om> Like I say, just started looking at wayland - got to get my additional work spaces !
[04:42] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[04:42] <EriC^^> evening Bashing-om :)
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: activities button/right side of screen shows workspaces
[04:44] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Good here finally .. hoz your world ?
[04:44] <EriC^^> good too
[04:44] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yeah in Xorg .. not functional in wayland :(
[06:22] <Bashing-om> Night nite guys // All I can stand :)
[07:24] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:27] <ducasse> good morning, all
[07:33] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[07:33] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[07:46] <ducasse> hi lordievader - all good here, thanks. how are you?
[07:47] <lordievader> Doing good. Got the IPv6 sage certification this morning. Quite a nice test 😁
[07:49] <ducasse> ah, cool! good luck with that :)
[07:50] <lordievader> I've done it already, it is a test you can do in 10 minutes if you have the requirements 😉
[07:50] <ducasse> oh, congrats, then :)
[07:51] <lordievader> Thanks :D
[07:57] <ducasse> not played much with ipv6, it just works™ here
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> hey guys
[08:29] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje
[08:29] <ducasse> how are you today?
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> have a nice day, work time :p
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[08:29] <ducasse> enjoy :)
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> tnx ttyl
[08:29] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[08:30] <ducasse> morning, BluesKaj - insomnia?
[08:32] <BluesKaj> well, went to bed early ducasse ...leaving in an hr or so to drive home.  Been visiting my daughter in Toronto for the last 6 days
[08:33] <ducasse> had a nice time?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> we've had a great time, ate at some really good restaurants etc, got to visit with my grandchildren...overall a fine visit
[08:36] <ducasse> sounds good :) having a friend over for dinner today, trying to decide what to make
[08:41] <BluesKaj> sounds cool, assume you like to cook ?
[08:42] <ducasse> yes, i think it's relaxing. not that i'm an exceptional talent or anything, but i am mostly able to produce something edible.
[08:42] <BluesKaj> :-)
[08:43] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[08:44] <BluesKaj> I've got to learn how to cook again, but so far I've managed ok
[08:44] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader
[08:44] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[08:44] <BluesKaj> ok here, lordievader, and you?
[08:45] <lordievader> Doing allright here :)
[09:02] <BluesKaj> I'm itching to get my new pc setup with a new soundcard, but i'm not sure it was the right move after reading about the MSI  Z370 motherboard capabilities. It was gift from my son and I should have done more extensive research on it's audio chips and outputs.
[09:02] <BluesKaj> err chip
[09:07] <BluesKaj> anyway time to load up for the trip home....we'll chat again when i get there
[09:07] <ducasse> are you thinking of getting a discrete card or usb thingy?
[09:26] <lordievader> Is the motherboard missing outputs?
[10:35] <daftykins> i haven't touched soundcards in forever :)
[10:35] <daftykins> back when creative labs were still good
[10:36]  * lordievader has a Fiio 'card' at work and an Mbox at home.
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> good evening guys
[17:16] <JimBuntu> hiya lotuspsychje
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> hey JimBuntu
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell bionic
[17:19] <ubot5`> gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.27.92-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 675 kB, installed size 7394 kB
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> 300mb bionic updates
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> oO
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[17:24] <ubot5`> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.13 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> and new kernel
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> brb reboot
[18:52] <pauljw> hi everyone
[19:19] <JimBuntu> Welcome back to the quiet party pauljw
[19:20] <pauljw> hi JimBuntu, ty... :)
[19:20]  * daftykins carefully opens and closes the channel door
[19:29] <tgm4883> EriC^^: that guy is totally asking homework questions
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:30] <EriC^^> yeah seems so
[19:30] <EriC^^> lol @ curious
[19:39] <daftykins> :D
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[20:06] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Was wondering if that was you :P "you" still on this time of the day .
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> nite nite all
[21:50] <akik> anyone seen a bug report about the ubuntu installer and setting the system locale? it doesn't ask you in which language you want to use the installed system but decides it according to the keyboard layout you choose
[22:02] <akik> i.e. i want to use a finnish keyboard layout but use ubuntu in english
[22:03] <daftykins> which release is this you tried to install?
[22:04] <akik> well it was like this since 14.04 at least
[22:04] <daftykins> then you need to ask in #ubuntu - this is a non-support channel, as per topic :)
[22:04] <akik> no, i know how to fix it
[22:04] <akik> just that is there any drive to fix the issue in the installer
[22:05] <daftykins> so are you really asking how to report a bug, or what?
[22:05] <akik> i asked if someone has seen a bug report about it
[22:06] <daftykins> ah yeah, still not a support channel
[22:06] <daftykins> you know how to search? :)
[22:06] <akik> i'm trying to use my google-fu
[22:06] <akik> dude this is for discussing ubuntu
[22:07] <daftykins> yes at a conceptual level, "how do i..." = support
[22:07] <akik> no i'm not asking how to fix it. i know how to do it
[22:07] <daftykins> if you did you'd have published a fix to a bug in ubiquity
[22:08] <akik> so you have seen a bug report about it?
[22:08] <akik> the problem is that the installer does not ask you in which language you want to use the installed system
[22:09] <akik> it decides it according to the keyboard layout you choose
[22:09] <daftykins> i'm telling you you're asking in the wrong place, go and ask for help finding a relevant bug in #ubuntu
[22:09] <akik> or the timezone/location
[22:10] <akik> i'll just ignore you for now
[22:10] <daftykins> why do you have a problem with being told you're in the wrong place?
[22:10] <daftykins> do you think rules don't apply to you?
[22:16] <TJ-> akik: looks like Bug #1373663
[22:16] <ubot5`> bug 1373663 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Inadequate locale settings" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373663
[22:18] <akik> yea that's how it rolls
[22:19] <akik> actually isn't there a selection for language in the installer? i always select english there
[22:20] <TJ-> You know what I think the problem is? the move from BIOS to UEFI boot! Are you testing this on a UEFI boot?
[22:20] <akik> bios. i didn't have an uefi machine while 14.04'ing
[22:20] <TJ-> Because if you recall, the installer booting from BIOS uses syslinux which pops up an initial language selector which I think it passes the results of along to the installer, whereas UEFI uses grub which doesn't do that
[22:21] <akik> i can run a test in vbox
[22:21] <TJ-> Are you selecting English as a language at that pre-boot stage?
[22:21] <akik> no, but in the installer ui
[22:21] <TJ-> I know that originally that selection was passed through into d-i and ubiquity, or was supposed to be
[22:26] <daftykins> yip sure does
[22:26] <akik> one thing popped into my mind. i only use kubuntu. does that follow the same rules than whatever the default ubuntu installer uses?
[22:26] <daftykins> well, it does if you press a key at the purple boot splash
[22:29] <TJ-> so long since I ran the kubuntu installer I'm not sure if it uses ubiquity. I have a vague recall it doesn't
[22:30] <daftykins> i think it would've been the same for that far back
[22:30] <TJ-> it looks like it does, via ubiquity-frontend-kde
[22:31] <TJ-> and this ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu
[22:38] <akik> found another report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231520
[22:38] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1231520 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Desktop image sets LC_TIME based on country, not selected language" [Medium,Triaged]
[22:51] <TJ-> akik: from looking through the bug reports it looks like whatever developers are left touching ubiquity aren't addressing bugs
[22:51] <TJ-> The only major recent work was the subiquity for -server
[22:51] <daftykins> which is even worse xD
[22:52] <TJ-> rather like netplan ... seems like a typical Canonical trait ... initial rush of enthusiasm but no hard grind later
[22:54] <nacc> TJ-: it's an interesting point
[22:55] <nacc> I think there is a desire for 'thought leadership'
[22:55] <nacc> but it's not always clear to me that it's very well thought out (pun intended)
[22:55] <TJ-> yeah, after 13 years+ of Ubuntu development I find it easy to spot the trait
[22:55] <akik> TJ-: in the first window that the kubuntu installer opens, there's a selection "Please choose the language to use for the install process. This language will be the default language for this computer."
[22:56] <TJ-> akik: right... so is it ignoring that?
[22:56] <nacc> TJ-: :)
[22:56] <akik> TJ-: i'll see after the install and report back
[22:57] <TJ-> nacc: what put me off Canonical was in the early days I was part of the ubuntu-kernel team, then without warning it became the canonical-kernel team me and others were shut out without warning or any kind of consultation. That happened in some other projects too as things were 'privatised'
[22:59] <nacc> TJ-: interesting, I had no idea that happened
[22:59] <nacc> but I am also not surprised
[23:03] <TJ-> akik: looks like the issue goes back to Dapper and possibly earlier (2005/6) Bug #57411
[23:03] <ubot5`> bug 57411 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57411
[23:03] <akik> TJ-: /etc/default/locale has fi_FI.UTF-8 for other variables than LANG (this is kubuntu 14.04.5)
[23:03] <akik> let's not go back that far :)
[23:03] <akik> so in my shell, the dates are in finnish
[23:03] <TJ-> akik: what I mean is, if you read that bug, it seems to be suggesting the requested fix is what you are now seeing!
[23:09] <akik> it hasn't ever been a big enough of a problem for me
[23:12] <TJ-> akik: comment #6 of Bug #34944 sounds sensible
[23:12] <ubot5`> bug 34944 in Ubuntu Express "language and locale detection" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34944
[23:15] <akik> for simplicity, it should just follow what the user selects in the installer
[23:24] <akik> i'll try the install again
[23:26] <akik> i misspoke about the kubuntu iso boot up
[23:26] <akik> i changed the language and keyboard in grub
[23:26] <akik> now i don't touch them
[23:34] <akik> ok nothing changes, still fi_FI.UTF-8
[23:36] <akik> to me it looks like a logic error, disregarding that first language selection
[23:40] <TJ-> might be worth looking at the latest changelog to see who's actually tagged as doing the changes and to get an idea of what is being done. Looks like mostly changing requirements changes rather than any active bug-fix maintenance type work
[23:55] <guiverc> TJ-, (this is from support; but like this response - I'm often away and forget to check the time (my bad..)
[23:56] <TJ-> guiverc: I generally use tab-complete ad if it fails I know they're gone :)
[23:57] <guiverc> me too - possibly i walked away after i started (and forgot)
[23:58] <TJ-> hehehe my biggest problem is I hit it too many times and send messages to the wrong person despite my eyes telling me it stopped on the nickname I wanted


[12:27] <melodie> hi
[12:28] <melodie> has anyone here noticed the directory having for name "Desktop" is in English in the live, even if you choose another language then once installed to hard drive, the name for it is in the language "other than english" which you have chosen ?
[12:29] <melodie> this is something for which I would know if a fix could be possible, or if it is a no go to change ?
[12:29] <melodie> I get the xdg-users-dirs-gtk source and come back with the part which might be concerned
[12:31] <melodie> in the file "update.c" I noticed Desktop is treated apart from the other directories, with "desktop_entry = "
[12:32] <melodie> my ultimate wish would be to do a remix with two icons on the desktop, but while this works in the live, it is not brought to the installed version after install
[12:32] <melodie> if anyone has an idea for me that would be very nice
[12:33] <melodie> here is a pic: http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/bento2/04-bento2.png
[12:44] <mitya57_> melodie: do you have a bug filed?
[12:45] <melodie> mitya57_ no I don't, the thing is that I am not sure where the trick is
[12:46] <melodie> do the icons not follow install because I didn't yet add a relevant script somewhere, or is it because the "Desktop" directory is changed to "Bureau" (in french) after install : I am not sure
[12:46] <melodie> I need the help from someone having dev knownledge
[12:48] <mitya57_> melodie: I never had a chance to look at update.c code, but filing a bug is a first step to get it fixed :]
[12:49] <melodie> mitya57_ I don't know if it is a bug... hggdh sent me here from #ubuntu-bugs, yesterday, when I asked the question
[12:55] <melodie> mitya57_ I have show this part in the update.c to my companion to have his opinion about it. He understands C : he told me this part of the code prevents having "desktop inside dekstop inside desktop"
[12:55] <melodie> so I will not bring a bug report until I know for sure what exactly it is like to get what I would like to get.
[12:58] <mitya57_> melodie: if all names change to translated, and desktop doesn't, then it's a bug
[12:58] <mitya57_> (or translation bug)
[12:59] <melodie> mitya57_ thank you !
[13:00] <melodie> mitya57_ should I check also the more recent versions of ubuntu ? what is the status for raring for instance ? alpha now no ?
[13:00] <melodie> I have tested only on the Precise versions, not with Quantal yet
[13:01] <melodie> getting some coffee and will be back...
[13:12] <melodie> mitya57__ should I check Quantal and Raring versions as well ?
[13:13] <mitya57__> melodie: raring should be enough (there'll be a beta release in 3 days, or you can use dailies)
[13:14] <melodie> mitya57 I go for a daily then, but I need a non unity version : does that exist ? My machine can't stand Unity, it is lower than 2 Gb ram
[13:15] <melodie> found it
[13:15] <melodie> found lubuntu
[13:15] <melodie> will also look for a xubuntu
[13:16] <mitya57> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[13:16] <melodie> hem lubuntu is an alternate, so I'll try xubuntu
[13:16] <mitya57> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[13:17] <melodie> thanks mitya57 just what I needed!
[13:24] <ogra_> qengho, FYI ... i uploaded the chromium fix myself https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3/+build/4456155
[13:48] <qengho> ogra_: okay. I have it in the security update that is coming out today.
[13:48] <ogra_> happy hacking then :)
[13:49] <ogra_> qengho, is that coordinated with chriscoulson ? i know he was planning a new upstream as well
[13:49] <qengho> Yes.
[13:49] <ogra_> good
[13:49] <ogra_> i only did that upload because it was just a 1 char fix
[13:49] <ogra_> else i would have waited for you guys
[14:12] <dobey> ogra_: sorry, i couldn't get past "stable currency" without laughing :)
[14:12] <ogra_> haha
[14:12] <ogra_> :)
[14:19] <melodie> mitya57 I won't be able to use the Lubuntu version for my demo, it does not work
[14:19] <melodie> i'll try the official unity even if too heavy here
[15:34]  * didrocks waves good evening
[15:34]  * mlankhorst waves


[01:33] <jjesse> evening :)
[02:31] <snap-l> Evening
[02:34] <rick_h> .party
[02:36] <jjesse> sounds like it
[02:37] <rick_h> yea, something like that
[02:38] <snap-l> Man, realized I didin't have Festival installed on this machine
[02:39] <snap-l>  which means all of the efforts for installing the voices will need to be duplicated
[02:39] <snap-l> yay
[14:50] <rick_h> ssshhhhhhh
[14:58] <jjesse> i agree it is too loud here
[15:00] <snap-l> Heh
[15:14] <widox> rick_h: got my nexus 7
[15:14] <rick_h> widox: awesome!
[15:15] <jjesse> l0ve my nexus 7
[15:15] <jjesse> rooting it was pretty easy
[15:27] <widox> doing the android update as we speak
[15:27] <widox> pretty much don't want to work  now :)
[15:27] <rick_h> just say you're browser testing
[15:27] <rick_h> :)
[15:36] <widox> gesh- like 3 updates here. 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 -> 4.2
[15:52] <rick_h> hah
[15:53] <rick_h> warning, 4.2 had some issues
[15:53] <rick_h> I can't wait for 4.2.1, especially the BT issues...and I guess December is important
[15:53] <snap-l> I agreed to be JoDee's graduate student, so now I have homework. :)
[15:53] <rick_h> lol
[15:54] <rick_h> CHC night is a good night for homework
[15:54] <rick_h> ask derekv
[15:54] <snap-l> Yeah, that's why I got the "homework"
[16:07] <widox> rick_h: what issues did you have?
[16:08] <rick_h> bluetooth, lack of december in the calendar
[16:08] <rick_h> I use it to stream podcasts and books and such over a bluetooth headphones/speaker and it gets choppy if the audio app isn't in the foreground
[16:08] <rick_h> that's the big one driving me nuts currently
[16:33] <widox> haha, no Decemeber. that's great
[16:43] <brousch> screw december!
[17:09] <snap-l> Yeah, I think that's one of my favorite bugs. :)
[17:27] <rick_h> It is a kind of fun big bug. Then again I don't usually do tests that ever month appears when I have stuff like that
[19:42] <Blazeix> man, if it weren't for a 3:30pm meeting, i'd consider just calling it a day and leaving work.
[19:42] <Blazeix> day before thanksgiving is brutal. no will to work
[19:46] <widox> ++
[19:46] <widox> a few on my team are leaving at 3
[19:46] <widox> so tempting...
[19:52] <rick_h> done here... see ya tonight
[20:09] <Blazeix> urgh, jealous
[23:21] <derekv> If I cut (kill) a line in emacs, then without moving the cursor, paste (yank) that line, nothing changes
[23:21] <derekv> If I do that in vi, the lines are switched
[23:21] <derekv> weird editor is weird.
[23:33] <Blazeix> i actually like that. swapping lines is a somewhat common task
[23:33] <Blazeix> if i realize i didn't want to delete the line, i'll just undo


[11:15] <brendand> pitti, what library do you use for parsing debian/tests/control?
[12:21] <pitti> brendand: python-debian
[12:57] <brendand> pitti, cool
[13:37] <brendand> pitti, is there any good docs for it? what i can find seems out of date/wrong
[13:42] <pitti> brendand: I just used help() TBH, i. e. its docstrings
[13:42] <pitti> /usr/share/doc/python-debian/examples/ also has a few files


[00:08] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: cacti dep8 failed against the new dbconfig-common and mysql-8.0
[00:08] <rbasak> Despite your latest change I was expecting ubuntu1 to pass against MySQL?
[00:09] <rbasak> I should have checked that before upload
[00:10] <rafaeldtinoco> I tested it :/
[00:10] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: will give a look in a few
[00:14] <rafaeldtinoco> oh it's armhf
[00:15] <rafaeldtinoco> no that's dbconfig
[00:19] <rafaeldtinoco>  mysql said: ERROR 1419 (HY000) at line 9: You do not have the SUPER privilege and binary logging is enabled (you *might* want to use the less safe log_bin_trust_function_creators variable)
[00:19] <rafaeldtinoco> this is new
[00:20] <rafaeldtinoco> I'll investigate and try to mitigate this
[00:29] <xibalba> on ubuntu server 18, selinux is not enabled by default. correct?
[00:29] <sarnold> correct
[00:29] <xibalba> thanks. i just found my answer on ask ubuntu too
[00:37] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: ERROR 2061 (HY000): Authentication plugin 'sha256_password' reported error: Authentication requires SSL encryption.
[00:38] <rafaeldtinoco> armhf is already fixed in the git repo I provided
[00:59] <Casper26> Anyone know how i can prevent when booting ubuntu server with usb external drive connected it;s get labled as sda prevent the server from booting i have it in fstab by uuid to mount?
[01:00] <RoyK> possibly something in /etc/default/grub
[01:01] <RoyK> or perhaps a BIOS setting if it tries to boot off the USB thing before the main disk
[01:03] <rafaeldtinoco> Casper26: e2fsck -LNEWLABEL /dev/yourpendrive
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> change /etc/fstab to use LABEL if you want (or UUID)
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> sorry tune2fs
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> so tune2fs -LPENDRIVE /dev/sdb
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> tune2fs -LROOT /dev/sda1
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> mkswap -LSWAP /dev/sda2
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> in /etc/fstab:
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> LABEL=ROOT ...
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> (this is ¨o
[01:04] <rafaeldtinoco> one way of doing this)
[02:27] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: https://code.launchpad.net/~rafaeldtinoco/+git/cacti/+ref/master
[02:27] <rafaeldtinoco> fixed
[02:27] <rafaeldtinoco> running autopkgtests now
[02:27] <rafaeldtinoco> will need another upload unfortunately
[02:28] <rafaeldtinoco> fixed upstream: https://github.com/Cacti/cacti/pull/2882
[02:28] <rafaeldtinoco> maintainer asked to pull request against version 1.2.x
[02:28] <rafaeldtinoco> and he will include in the next version (he said asap)
[02:28] <rafaeldtinoco> after tests will push this to cacti on salsa as well
[02:29] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: thanks!
[02:29] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: ive made 2 mistakes sorry
[02:29] <rafaeldtinoco> 1) changed cacti.sql thinking it would be good
[02:29] <rafaeldtinoco> and ran autopkgtests before that change
[02:29] <rafaeldtinoco> sorry about that =)
[02:29] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: OK so not ready for upload yet?
[02:29] <rafaeldtinoco> wont repeat, now ill run autopkgtests in between ¨ls¨
[02:29] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: gimme 5 min
[02:29] <rafaeldtinoco> and it will be
[02:30] <rbasak> ack
[02:30] <rafaeldtinoco> want to confirm tests
[02:30] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: can you please rebase against the debian/changelog amendment in my actual upload too please
[02:31] <rafaeldtinoco> ooh, yep, definitely
[02:31] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: where is your upload again ?
[02:31] <rafaeldtinoco> cacti is not imported, is it ?
[02:32] <rafaeldtinoco> sorry I context switched too much
[02:33] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: you can grab using pull-lp-source
[02:33] <rafaeldtinoco> ah alright, regular uploaded source
[02:33] <rafaeldtinoco> sure, let me finish tests and ill do it
[02:34] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: and in the git-ubuntu source tree, there's a tool called git-dsc-commit if you want to use that.
[02:34] <rbasak> It adds a new commit that is exactly what a dsc has
[02:34] <rafaeldtinoco> nice
[02:34] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: did I wake you ?
[02:35] <rafaeldtinoco> sorry if I did
[02:35] <rafaeldtinoco> i want leaving msgs for tomorrow =)
[02:35] <rbasak> No
[02:35] <rbasak> I'm not crazy enough to allow myself to be woken by IRC pings :)
[02:35] <rafaeldtinoco> phew
[02:35] <rafaeldtinoco> =)
[02:35] <rbasak> I don't even get interrupted during the work day by IRC pings. I have to actually look at IRC to see any pings
[02:36] <rbasak> (which is why I often don't notice them for an hour or two)
[02:36] <rafaeldtinoco> thats actually a good practice
[02:52] <rafaeldtinoco> im having some problems to fix yet, looks like mysql cant create the function with the user permissions created by dbconfig, im fixing it right now (SET GLOBAL log_bin_trust_function_creators=1;) and running tests, etc.. not sure im holding you or not
[02:59] <rbasak> No problem. I'll check in the morning.
[02:59] <rafaeldtinoco> ok
[02:59] <rbasak> Also feel free to finish for the day! It must be beyond your EOD too.
[03:00] <rbasak> I can take over the morning.
[03:00] <rafaeldtinoco> nah, ill fix this now
[03:00] <rafaeldtinoco> dpkg -i works good, autopkgtest fails
[03:00] <rafaeldtinoco> almost there =)
[03:10] <Sky_Scraper> Hi guys, don't know if it's the right place to ask but I try cos for shure you are experts in server managements. I'm buying my first server =D I'm really zero expert in servers or how to choose or manage them, very skilled with normal pcs of every kind but zero on server. So I cannot choose between this 2 configs for almost the same price: [model: HP DL380 G7 - CPU: Intel X5650 x 2 , 2.66GHz, Hex core - 24 GB of RAM PC3
[03:10] <Sky_Scraper> 10600R]  OR [HP ProLiant DL360e Generation 8 - 2 x 8-Core Intel Xeon E5-2450L(20M Cache, 1.8GHz/8 -core/8.0GT-s) - RAM 48GB PC3] ---> so, given that my goal is to use them for intensive virtualization with 20-30 virtual machines for web scraping purposes, with the firstone I will have 2 x 6cores CPU at 2.66Ghz, so 24 Threads, and 24GB ram --- With the second one I will have 2 x 8 cores, so 32 threads, BUT ONLY 1.80GHz,
[03:10] <Sky_Scraper> but 48GB ram. What is the best, if you are planning to have maximum number of cirtual machine possible with more ore less 1GB ram each? The second seams more flexible, but is possible that 1.80Ghz of processor will be worst also with more cores and more ram?? cannot understand. What's your opinion?
[03:12] <rbasak> Seems like a big investment to be making when you're not sure about workload requirements. Maybe considering renting from a provider first?
[03:12] <rbasak> Eg. use a cloud provider initially.
[03:12] <Sky_Scraper> Just want to clarify before questions that no, I don't want to go in cloud or use other kind of hardware or adopt any other kind of solution or start a conversation about many different techniques I can apply or start talking about the problem of having a physical refurbished server instead of renting online
[03:12] <mybalzitch> Sky_Scraper: I wonder if you checked benchmarks if that e5-2450L is faster than a spaceheater x5650
[03:13] <Sky_Scraper> mybalzitch, no I didn't, I checked the intel website spechs for the 2 models
[03:13] <rbasak> I don't think any other answer is reasonable then.
[03:13] <rbasak> Nobody can know what your bottleneck will be if you don't know yourself.
[03:14] <mybalzitch> I'm leaning towards the second server, more threads and more ram.
[03:14] <Sky_Scraper> thanks mybalzitch, I was on the same line
[13:18] <avg_joe> hello. is this the correct place to ask about stress-ng? or could you point me to the correct channel.(i'm running it on debian actually).
[13:29] <supaman> avg_joe: if you installed stress-ng from a debian package then its on topic in #debian on oftc network
[13:31] <avg_joe> thank you supaman.
[14:29] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: I've been looking at your latest debdiffs.
[14:29] <rbasak> I was wondering why we didn't pick up the dbconfig-common problem before, but I think I've just figured it out.
[14:30] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: because i didnt go through autopkgtest for mariadb with cacti
[14:30] <rafaeldtinoco> i thought i had when i started merging it quickly for you
[14:30] <rafaeldtinoco> forgot it was a todo, it was my bad sorry
[14:30] <rafaeldtinoco> lessons learned
[14:30] <rafaeldtinoco> and thinking little bit more about this
[14:31] <rafaeldtinoco> dbconfig-mysql is showing auth plugins, but they´re most mysql ones
[14:31] <rbasak> Yeah so it's not exercised unless testing cacti
[14:31] <rafaeldtinoco> (only sha256_password) is for both
[14:31] <rafaeldtinoco> which could be fair
[14:32] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: ill get them now and fix upstream (debian/cacti)
[14:33] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: how would u like to proceed with them now ?
[14:34] <rafaeldtinoco> i have to forward upstream and fix DEP3 for cacti´s patch
[14:36] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: are your latest pastebins still appropriate for upload to Ubuntu?
[14:37] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: i guarantee they work and autopkgtests pass
[14:37] <rafaeldtinoco> but i´ll do the upstream forward and fix dep3 now
[14:37] <rafaeldtinoco> if you wait a few might be better
[14:57] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: minor adjustemetns to dbconfig-common debdiff: s/Mysql/MySQL/ and s/bellow/below/
[15:01]  * rafaeldtinoco fixing
[15:03] <rafaeldtinoco> re-pushed to debian
[15:07] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XGqDksHBWD/
[15:07] <rafaeldtinoco> uploaded to debian
[15:07] <rafaeldtinoco> if you are +1 both are the same
[15:07] <rafaeldtinoco> im pilling changes in the same MR in debian now
[15:07] <Ussat> OK, REALLY basic question but brain is not functioning this am: On my Ununtu 18.04LTS I use rsyslog.  If I want to catch all error and above ONLY be forwarded to a remote server, it is err.*@remote_server
[16:32] <FaTaL_G> I have an ubuntu machine that was 16.04 running a asus pcie-ac88u (broadcom) and using interfaces & hostapd I ran it as a router AP successfully for over a year. I upgraded to 18.04, now its not working
[16:35] <FaTaL_G> I get an error, even though it seems the driver is loading it wont activate
[16:37] <FaTaL_G> eg: kernel: [55270.802443] brcmfmac: brcmf_run_escan: error (-4)
[16:44] <Casper26> If /boot is it's partion can it be unmounted without taking down the system?
[17:04] <dami0> hi, i have netplan 0.36 on ubuntu 18.04, can i set a route through ifup scripts and have it work fine with netplan? i need a route with source defined which doesn't work on netplan 0.36
[18:15] <avg_joe> Casper25: hmm not sure but i don't see why the system would need /boot partiton after bootup. however do it at your own risk since if you update kernel or something with apt, it's probably going to break your system.
[18:15] <avg_joe> so always remember to remount it.
[18:20] <tomreyn> Casper26 CP'd to #ubuntu, and got replies there, too


[06:48] <orbisvicis> how do you build packages like gcc 4.6 and eglibc which appear to depend on each other ?
[06:49] <RAOF> orbisvicis: From an archive which already contains a version of the other :)
[06:51] <orbisvicis> RAOF: example? this isn't the normal source archive ?
[06:52] <RAOF> This is basically a bootstrap problem.
[06:52] <RAOF> You need eglibc to build gcc, but you can't build eglibc without gcc.
[06:53] <RAOF> Since we've already got an archive with gcc in it, though, you can build the new eglibc with the current gcc.  And the next gcc with the current eglibc.
[06:54] <orbisvicis> you mean an archive like a pre-compiled .deb?
[06:55] <RAOF> I mean the current set of packages.  The repositories.
[06:55] <RAOF> To *start* though, you do indeed need to upload some bootstrapping packages; a prebuilt gcc, for example.
[06:57] <orbisvicis> ok I see
[07:01] <RAOF> But you only need to do that once.  After you've got a working compiler, you can use that compiler to build a new compiler :)
[08:13] <dholbach> good morning
[08:22] <geser> good morning dholbach
[08:25] <dholbach> hi geser
[08:34] <ajmitch> morning dholbach, geser
[08:34] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[08:34] <geser> Hi ajmitch
[10:30] <Laney> morning
[10:31] <sladen> good morning La
[10:31] <sladen> tab-completion-fail
[10:33] <Laney> greetings
[10:33] <Laney> didn't see you at the lecture :-(
[10:33] <sladen> oh you went.  Woo!
[10:33] <sladen> back right, at the top
[10:34] <sladen> and then standing next to the camera man
[10:34] <Laney> did you arrive late?
[10:34] <sladen> "he's changing the tape, so if you're going to say anything important, hold on a moment"
[10:34] <Laney> I was around before for ages
[10:34] <sladen> 5 minutes late.  Missed the free food
[10:34] <Laney> ah
[10:34] <sladen> he was just explaining that he wasn't using slides when I sneaked in
[10:34] <Laney> fair
[11:29] <Laney> what's the difference between an 'attempted' and a 'failed' build, as far as sbuild is concerned?
[11:30] <azeem_> Laney: (AFAIK attempted is an sbuild state, while failed is a buildd state, i.e. the failed attempt has been acknowledged by a buildd admin)
[11:30] <azeem_> not sure that's the case for Ubuntu, though
[11:32] <Laney> azeem_: these are both in mail from my local sbuild
[11:35] <azeem_> Laney: hrm :)
[11:36] <Laney> oh well
[11:37] <azeem_> Laney: right, I think then it's rather attempted == dpkg-buildpackage failed, failed == something else (like apt-get build-dep) failed
[11:37] <Laney> aha
[11:38] <azeem_> from what I've gathered from a quick look through my sbuild logs
[16:45] <dupondje> What things need to be done these days?
[16:45] <dupondje> Can do some work :)
[17:14] <dupondje> bdrung: there ?
[17:14] <bdrung> dupondje: yes, but i shouldn't
[17:14] <bdrung> dupondje: why?
[17:16] <dupondje> audacious-plugins seems uninstallable
[17:16] <dupondje> audacious-plugins: Depends: audacious-plugins-data (>= 3.2.1-1ubuntu1)
[17:16] <bdrung> dupondje: wait. it's stuck in NEW
[17:17] <bdrung> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious-plugins/3.2.1-1ubuntu1
[17:17] <bdrung> dupondje: you said, that you could do some work?
[17:17] <dupondje> sure :)
[17:17] <bdrung> dupondje: vlc fails on powerpc and kfreebsd: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=vlc
[17:18] <bdrung> it would be nice if these are fixed (the proper way to get the fixes upstream)
[17:19] <dupondje> I see if I can do something with it :)
[17:30] <dupondje> bdrung: btw, audacious is still broken :) It tries to load plugins in openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/audacious/Output", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[17:30] <dupondje> while its in /usr/lib/audacious/
[17:52] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious-plugins/+bug/939698
[17:52] <dupondje> could somebody sponsor :) So we can listen to musuc again :D
[17:58] <bdrung> dupondje: done
[17:59] <dupondje> thx
[18:03] <dupondje> bdrung: the VLC ftbfs is fixed already upstream? http://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=commitdiff;h=46f74073685b29544dd55b3494f82e77fe9b4b6b
[18:04] <bdrung> dupondje: that's for kfreebsd
[18:04] <bdrung> powerpc is still open
[18:05] <arand> ScottK: Thanks for sponsoring! :D I take it you're looking at redeclipse-data as well?
[18:05] <ScottK> arand: I didn't see a bug for that.
[18:06] <arand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/934952
[18:06] <ScottK> (I'm looking in the release team queue)
[18:07] <arand> The URT is subscribed there, it seems, do I need to do something else?
[18:07] <ScottK> No.
[18:07] <ScottK> Doing it now.
[18:07] <arand> Yay! :)
[18:26] <dholbach> RTs etc. of FixIt Friday news would be appreciated. :-)
[20:37] <cemc> I would like to rebuild suphp with some options changed. the package in lucid is 0.7.1-1 . what would be the appropriate name to name my package and upload in ppa to not get in trouble with future builds of the package? something like suphp-0.7.1-1+cemc1 would be ok?
[20:42] <micahg> yes, adding +foo is a good option as you'll get any updates from the main repo and know to rebuild your package
[20:43] <cemc> micahg: let's say a security update comes along to suphp-0.7.1-1. what would that name be then?
[20:43] <micahg> 0.7.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:44] <cemc> micahg: and 0.7.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> > suphp-0.7.1-1+cemc1 right?
[20:44] <micahg> oops, no it's not :)
[20:44] <cemc> it's not?
[20:44] <cemc> hm
[20:44] <micahg> that trick only works on Ubuntu versions :(
[20:45] <cemc> any suggestions?
[20:45] <micahg> so, 0.7.1-1cemc1 should work though
[20:45] <cemc> as long as it's not 0.7.1-1whoo1 ?
[20:45] <cemc> ;)
[20:45] <micahg> right
[20:46] <cemc> what about 0.7.1-1ubuntu0+cemc1 ?
[20:47] <micahg> that would work too
[20:47] <micahg> cemc: you can use dpkg --compare-versions to check these things
[20:49] <cemc> micahg: didn't know that, thanks ;)
[21:19] <at332> Anyone here?
[21:20] <at332> Hello?
[21:20] <broder> !ask | at332
[21:23] <at332> I would like to get started in ubuntu development but I'm not quite sure where to start.  Do you have any suggestions on where I could start?
[22:13] <dupondje> Can you do a powerpc build with pbuilder ?
[22:14] <RAOF> dupondje: If you've got some way to run PPC code, yes.
[22:14] <RAOF> Oooh, and qemus
[22:15] <RAOF> qemu-user-static includes a PPC emulator, so you can build a PPC chroot fairly easily.
[22:15] <jtaylor> if it doesn't crash yes
[22:15] <jtaylor> unfortunatly it does mostly
[22:15] <jtaylor> precise ppc emu is broken (or was two days ago)
[22:16] <dupondje> lets see if we can build ... :)
[22:17]  * RAOF would build a chroot with mk-sbuild --arch=powerpc precise, but that'll build an sbuild system.
[22:17] <dupondje> pbuilder-dist precise powerpc create
[22:17] <dupondje> trying :)
[22:19] <jtaylor> if it works try installing libmagick-dev please )
[22:23] <dupondje> E: Can't mmap an empty file
[22:23] <dupondje> hmz
[22:24] <jtaylor> the oneiric one works
[22:24] <jtaylor> but you can't upgrade
[22:32] <turbotax> anyone have smtp sender for sell pls pm me now ill pay with libertyreserve
[22:47] <dupondje> E: /etc/schroot/chroot.d/sbuild-precise-powerpc: line 10 [precise-powerpc] union-type: Unknown filesystem union type ‘overlayfs’
[22:47] <dupondje> hmz :)


[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #105755 in mesa (main) "glx crashes on launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105755
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #105756 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "/sbin/lrm-manager allows nvidia_new .ko module to get loaded when DISABLED_MODULES="nv" in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105756
[05:49] <ubotu> New bug: #96092 in xorg (main) "installed ubuntu can't get 1024x768 stuck with 800x600" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96092
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #105760 in xorg (main) "Wron resolution on NVIDIA + DELL 2405FPW" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105760
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #105790 in xorg-server (main) "xserver-xorg configuration with standard installer defaults to the vesa driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105790
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #105788 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "ATI Radeon X1600 PCI-Express is not working with FGLRX driver. Only brown empty screen appears." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105788
[11:47] <ubotu> New bug: #105673 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Switching to a vt and back often makes x session unusable if compiz is running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105673
[12:39] <ubotu> New bug: #105836 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "[feisty]  "black screen" is not black" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105836
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #104356 in totem (main) "play/pause keyboard button not working in totem (dup-of: 37225)" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104356
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #32715 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "kernel module mismatch" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32715
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #96900 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia-glx-legacy doesn't start GLX" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96900
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #57118 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "kernel and X module version missmatch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57118
[04:54] <ubotu> New bug: #105862 in xorg (main) "Mirai DTL-642E500 42' LCD in 1920x1080" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105862
[05:15] <tepsipakki> kylem: where is the ubuntu kernel git hosted?
[05:15] <kylem> we have an internal tree, but it's also pushed to git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-feisty.git
[05:15] <kylem> (or ubuntu-2.6.git for the 'in development' tree for ubuntu+1)
[05:15] <tepsipakki> ah, thought so
[05:17] <tepsipakki> it was requested a while ago that we maintained the xorg changes in git, so debian could pull them easily
[05:18] <kylem> it would be optimal probably to use git.debian.org and an ubuntu branch, i think
[05:18] <tepsipakki> but the problem is where to put it, since bzr is the blessed vcs :)
[05:18] <kylem> we don't have any git hosting infrastructure atm.
[05:18] <kylem> tepsipakki, do you have an alioth.debian.org account?
[05:18] <tepsipakki> yes, that's what I thought too
[05:18] <tepsipakki> yes
[05:18] <kylem> alternately, you can use repo.or.cz which offers public hosting, or i can set you up with access to other places if you need it
[05:20] <tepsipakki> ok, thanks.. good to know
[05:20] <kylem> np.
[05:20] <tepsipakki> maybe I'll ask the debian guys first :)
[05:33] <tepsipakki> ..and it's ok to host them in git.d.o :)
[05:33] <kylem> cool
[05:33] <tepsipakki> at least jcristau didn't object, and thought that dnusinow won't either
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #105927 in xorg (main) "X is strange when shifting from X to console and back. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105927
[08:27] <ubotu> New bug: #105928 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "binary nvidia 1.0.9631 crashes X on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105928
[09:34] <Mithrandir> tepsipakki: prod; about the video-ati upload.  Is it needed for the release?
[09:38] <tepsipakki> no
[09:38] <tepsipakki> it just reverted the change in previous upload (which didn't build)
[09:39] <tepsipakki> maybe it could've been dealt otherwise
[09:42] <Mithrandir> hm, so we have an out-of-date at the moment due to it?
[09:44] <tepsipakki> what do you mean by that?
[09:44] <Mithrandir> xserver-xorg-video-ati currently fails to build due to that patch?  So it's just a revert of what's between 1:6.6.3-2ubuntu4 and 1:6.6.3-2ubuntu5?
[09:45] <tepsipakki> yes
[09:45] <Mithrandir> ok, accepted
[09:45] <tepsipakki> ah :)
[09:45] <tepsipakki> what about -intel?
[09:46] <Mithrandir> that's universe, isn't it?
[09:46] <tepsipakki> it would replace -i810-modesetting not -i810, and yes it's universe
[09:46] <Mithrandir> I'm tempted to say we accept it even with the licence problem.
[09:46] <tepsipakki> the license "problem" is the same with rest of the xorg :)
[09:47] <tepsipakki> well, it's a problem and upstream knows about it, but not a top priority
[09:48] <tepsipakki> also, I have a fix ready for bug 89853
[09:48] <ubotu> Malone bug 89853 in xorg-server "[regression]  7.2 broke vesa: "No matching modes found"" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89853
[09:48] <tepsipakki> although it hasn't been tested to work yet
[09:50] <tepsipakki> but the concept is used for various other similar situations
[09:51] <Mithrandir> ugh, we probably want that in too, yes.
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #105957 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia-glx should add [Option "UseEDID" "False"]  to [Section "Device"]  in xorg.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105957
[10:02] <tepsipakki> hm, I'll modify the patch a bit
[10:03] <tepsipakki> the proposed version won't work
[10:14] <tepsipakki> Mithrandir: what do you think of bug 103902? Pretty obvious to me
[10:14] <ubotu> Malone bug 103902 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev "X crashes when using evdev: undefined symbol xf86OSRingBell" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103902
[10:15] <tepsipakki> and dead simple
[10:15] <Mithrandir> I think I need sleep. :-)
[10:15] <Mithrandir> sorry, see you tomorrow.
[10:15] <tepsipakki> hehe, do that!
[10:15] <tepsipakki> I'll just upload these :)
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #105966 in iceauth (main) "gdm in loop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105966
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #105967 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia autoinstall 1900x1200 not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105967
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #105968 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia autoinstall 1900x1200 not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105968
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #104105 in xorg (main) "[feisty]  gnome-display-properties reports incorrect refresh rate ?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104105
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #99468 in xorg (main) "feisty, display fails when quitting" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99468


[17:19] <gb_mks> can someone help with this bug ? https://titanpad.com/bug138569
[17:26] <rbasak> gb_mks: this channel is for bug triage. Try #ubuntu maybe?
[17:26] <gb_mks> thanks, I have tried it:)
[17:49] <hggdh> gb_mks: try #ubuntu-touch