[22:43] <ActionParsnip> thethrasher: no space dude, you can tab complete it
[22:43] <dVs--> I tried to switch skins in  vlc and now it wont start - tried apt-get remove and aptitude --purge and mark for complete removal as well as rm -r ~/.vlc  but when i reinstall its still the same problem -- does anyone know of a way to fix this ?
[22:43] <spiritssight> Is there any one here that would be willing to walk me through setup a Ubuntu Server as there no response in that IRC its for non-profit
[22:43] <baheer> any one help me?
[22:43] <pdlnhrd> does anyone have dual-head working with ati or an xorg conf file to look at?
[22:43] <augie> Totem movie player keeps closing when It's about to play a file (I just installed a bunch of codecs)
[22:43] <droopsta915> droopsta: get old distros at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[22:43] <zsquareplusc> ditch64: you mean you can have only one application at a time playing? that usually happens when you access the sound device directly. using pulse audio solves that for example. when you set all your applications to puse audio
[22:43] <matthias_N> jgoguen:  unable to mount ... it says when i click on the link ....
[22:43] <dVs--> spiritssight:  they have a ton of walk-throughs online
[22:43] <droopsta915> incase anyone wanted the same info
[22:43] <thethrasher> qpdb: yes it recognizes the new hardware but won't access and integrate it
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> thethrasher: see how my name highlights when i address you, makes talkking easier in a room of 1500 users
[22:44] <NekroJakub> I love Synaptic. Best package manager ever.
[22:44] <Slart> augie: try running it from a terminal, see if there are error messages
[22:44] <register_> my webcam doesn't get recognized in intrepid
[22:44] <jgoguen> matthias_N: unable to mount?  that's a weird error, it should open in Firefox
[22:44] <register_> all was working fine with hardy
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> thethrasher: if it shows up in sudo fdisk -l you are golden
[22:44] <jgoguen> matthias_N: try copying the link and pasting it directly into Firefox
[22:44] <ditch64> zsquareplusc: no i mean if i play music from songbird, i will close song bird and then play a youtube video the audio wont work
[22:44] <matthias_N> jgoguen:  let me try with a copy of the4 link
[22:44] <Bowtrik> Who says its hard to talk in a room of 1500 people? :D
[22:44] <qpdb> thethrasher, does it has a parition table/partition? and is this partition formatted?
[22:44] <augie> Slart, a bunch of errors
[22:44] <omega^> :| thats a lot of people
[22:44] <dVs--> me :(
[22:45] <Shovi> i was installing the new ubuntu from cd, and started getting tons of errors
[22:45] <ditch64> zsquareplusc: but then i will restart the computer and it will play the youtube video with audio but not music from songbird or VLC or anything
[22:45] <Shovi> anyone know if its the CD or the iso?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Bowtrik: its hard to have to leaf through so much text without highlighting
[22:45]  * omega^ needs ubuntu help :(
[22:45] <thethrasher> ActionParsnip: I just need the space to install all of my pc games which is working fine until i ran out of space
[22:45] <augie> Slart, I just copied and pasted this commands from an article '5 things to do after installing ibex' you may have heard of it
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Bowtrik: especially when it gets fast
[22:45] <matthias_N> jgoguen:  the same can not establishe
[22:45] <dVs--> I tried to switch skins in  vlc and now it wont start - tried apt-get remove and aptitude --purge and mark for complete removal as well as rm -r ~/.vlc  but when i reinstall its still the same problem -- does anyone know of a way to fix this ?
[22:45] <Slart> augie: nope
[22:45] <Bowtrik> ActionParsnip: I was just being sarcastic. Hehe.
[22:45] <augie> Slart, which is supposed to install all required codecs
[22:45] <Slart> augie: and I use vlc for playing all my media content
[22:45] <Bowtrik> I just want my theme to stay on the one I picked. :(
[22:45] <MTecknology> I'm having troubles setting up my audio from a cli install.  I followed this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio, tried to run alsamixer and got this http://pastebin.com/m36dacde5, and then tried pulseaudio and got this http://pastebin.com/m52cd3ec
[22:45] <omega^> Complete ubuntu noob here, looking to increase the ubuntu partition on his vista dual boot - any advice?
[22:45] <Slart> augie: so no messing with codecs.. ever..
[22:45] <jgoguen> matthias_N: give me a second to try and get them somewhere else
[22:46] <Bowtrik> Everything else in my Ubuntu works.
[22:46] <matthias_N> jgoguen:  yes please, thanks ...'
[22:46] <dVs--> omega^:  gparted
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> thethrasher: then boot to whichever OS is to access it and partition and format it
[22:46] <omega^> gparted is some sort of program i assume?
[22:46] <Shovi> I was loading ubuntu live and started to get tons of I/O errors, and ubuntu was taking like 10-15 mins to load up.... should I reburn the cd? or any ideas?
[22:46] <dVs--> yuh .. install from  synaptic
[22:46] <omega^> ok
[22:46] <thethrasher> ActionParsnip: its all in virtual box
[22:46] <dVs--> well thats what i used and how i did it ..
[22:46] <zsquareplusc> Shovi: there is a cd check at the cd boot menu
[22:46] <Bowtrik> omega^: I think gparted is Ubuntu's partitioning tool?
[22:46] <jgoguen> matthias_N: are you on 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[22:46] <dVs-->   but i am a complete noob myself
[22:47] <Slart> !gparted
[22:47] <en1gma> sup all
[22:47] <Shovi> zsquareplusc, i did that, but it start doing the weird error thing during it, and was taking 20 mins
[22:47] <techII> Bowtrik, all i can think of, is it could be a weird issue with file permissions being set wrong
[22:47] <matthias_N> jgoguen:  i think 32 bit
[22:47] <Shovi> zsquareplusc, ive done past installs and never had that probl when loading or checking
[22:47] <dVs--> \gparted is on the regular ubuntu live cd
[22:47] <matthias_N> jgoguen:  sorry i am not really sure but most likely on 32 bit
[22:47] <Bowtrik> techll: Any idea how I could check, fix, change those options?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> thethrasher: you won't get good game performance (except 2D) in a virtual box
[22:47] <kkerwin> Hi. Trying to run aticonfig to setup my radeon 9600 mobility on kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (Ubuntu 8.10). aticonfig segfaults, complaining in the syslog: segfault at c ip 080539fd sp bfce1560 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+34000]
[22:47] <dVs--> I tried to switch skins in  vlc and now it wont start - tried apt-get remove and aptitude --purge and mark for complete removal as well as rm -r ~/.vlc  but when i reinstall its still the same problem -- does anyone know of a way to fix this ?
[22:48] <omega^> i love you guys :3
[22:48] <jgoguen> matthias_N: what's the output from uname -m
[22:48] <thethrasher> actionparsnip: its the best i have right now   <~~~~poor
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> dVs--: is there a folder in ~/ named .vlc
[22:48] <ditch64> well when someone is free please PM me, i have an audio problem
[22:48] <matthias_N> jgoguen:  i686
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> thethrasher: wine will let you play most stuff
[22:48] <dVs--> no checked  ..  hello again ActionParsnip
[22:48] <augie> Slart, same problem with vlc it just keeps closing
[22:48] <zsquareplusc> ditch64: ok, that is strange. some sound deamons only release the sound device with a delay or not at all. but that is only a prblem when you mix pulse and alsa playing
[22:48] <Bowtrik> omega^: We love you too.
[22:48] <easotokr> any tip to solve missing icon in menubars of applications
[22:48] <Johan-UbuntuNewb> lilo
[22:48] <en1gma> i got some pretty old hardware but am wanting to do some music creation (grabbing ubuntustudio) right now....my question is reguarding low latency when monitoring a microphone...i have an nforce 2 (with soundstorm apu) and a sb live (non-5.1) and an audigy SE/LS....which one would be the best for this
[22:48] <Slart> augie: run it from a terminal, pastebin the result, give us the link
[22:49] <ditch64> zsquareplusc: so what can i do about it?
[22:49] <RoAkSoAx>
[22:49] <jgoguen> matthias_N: OK, that means you're running 32-bit...I've almost got those drivers copied
[22:49] <thethrasher> ActionParsnip: I just installed about $300 worth of windows os software on vb
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> dVs--: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=815314
[22:49] <zsquareplusc> Shovi: maybe the cd is bad or dislikes that specific cd. or is it dirty/scratched by now as you made so many installs ;-)
[22:49] <Saga> People -- I'm having a minor issue -- I use Bluetooth on my computer for keyboard/mouse interaction.  However, at bootup (login), I'm not able to use it because it's not running.  How can I set it up so it'll be running before the login -- not after.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Therock_: its not going to do 3d accelleration dude
[22:49] <NEWK2> Hey, how do I upgrade to the latest LTS from 6.06 LTS?
[22:49] <techII> Bowtrik, 'chown -R -P ~/.gconf' in a terminal (be careful with it, i haven't tested it)
[22:49] <Slart> !upgrade | NEWK2
[22:49] <Shovi> zsquareplusc, it looks fine :\ i just burned on a diff type of cd gonna try
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> dVs--: you sure, everyone says thats the deal
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> dVs--: try: cd ~/; ls -a
[22:50] <techII> Bowtrik, unless those settings are stored somewhere else
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> dVs--: you see a .vlc folder
[22:50] <NEWK2> ok, thanks' ubottu! :D
[22:50] <en1gma> anyone know anything about creating music in linux
[22:50] <NEWK2> Also
[22:50] <techII> Bowtrik, or there is some weird whole system override feature that i don't know about
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: lmms is awesome
[22:50] <NEWK2> How do I upgrade to the latest version of firefox?
[22:50] <Slart> en1gma: have you tried ubuntu studio?
[22:50] <jgoguen> matthias_N: download http://unbtest.jgoguen.ca/bcm4328-32bit.exe, those are the drivers I used previously
[22:50] <tritium> en1gma: that's what the ubuntu-studio distro is for
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: its like fruity loops
[22:50] <NEWK2> If I upgrade to the latest LTS will that upgrade firefox too?
[22:50] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  it works my router was blocking it , but i have it ...
[22:50] <en1gma> im downloading as we speak
[22:50] <ditch64> zsquareplusc: what can i do about it?
[22:50] <thethrasher> actionparsnip:  I guess I just need to know where to find the drivers to mount the new hardware
[22:50] <en1gma> 75%
[22:50] <Slart> NEWK2: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade should update to the latest version *in the repos*
[22:50] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  sorry my fault ...
[22:51] <en1gma> but im just wondering about my hardware.
[22:51] <en1gma> i need low latency
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> thethrasher: its a setting for the VM
[22:51] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: no problem, at least you have them :)
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: give it a go
[22:51] <zsquareplusc> ditch64: dont know.. maybe check if an application is locking the sound device. with lsof|grep /dev/dsp or something like that
[22:51] <nidfar> greetings I have a startup problem and I am still relatively new to Ubuntu.  If someone is available to help me, I'd appreciate it.
[22:51] <en1gma> i use asio drivers in windows and they dont get low enough
[22:51] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  hold on and tell me again how you installed it with ndiswrapper again, please ...
[22:51] <en1gma> is linux better maybe
[22:51] <augie> Slart, http://pastebin.com/m3de391f5
[22:52] <van> can we get up to 4Gb ram with Ubuntu version 32bit ?
[22:52] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  i am still here
[22:52] <techII> en1gma, make sure you have the 'linux-rt' kernel, there might be some settings you have to tweek elsewhere
[22:52] <matthias_N_> hold on ...
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: depends on config of so many things its near impossible to be concrete
[22:52] <jgoguen> matthias_N: first, extract the driver using cabextract, run 'ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf', then run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and that should work
[22:52] <dulak> van: it's like 3.8g max
[22:52] <ditch64> zsquareplusc: well put it this way it does it with every local sound player and everytime i play anything with firefox
[22:52] <dulak> van: depends on chipset and such, you'd get most of 4g though
[22:52] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  hold on just tell me how you installed the driver again with ndiswrapper
[22:52] <en1gma> im grabbing the 8.10 ubuntustudio will that have the rt kernel
[22:52] <jgoguen> matthias_N: first, extract the driver using cabextract, run 'ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf', then run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and that should work
[22:52] <van> dulak: in my BIOS it wrote 4Gb and in my ubuntu it detected only 3
[22:52] <Saga> Bluetooth issue -- I use Bluetooth on my computer for keyboard/mouse interaction.  However, at bootup (login), I'm not able to use it because it's not running.  How can I set it up so it'll be running before the login -- not after.
[22:53] <dulak> van: 3 exactly?  it should be 3.something
[22:53] <Slart> augie: look what google found.. =) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=670c3c596376e004b3c4786af80ee03c&p=6126583#post6126583
[22:53] <van> 3106832k
[22:53] <van> dulak: 3106832k
[22:53] <van> dulak: but i got 2X 2Gb ram
[22:54] <Slart> van: running 32bit ubuntu?
[22:54] <van> slart: yes
[22:54] <dulak> van: that seems a little low, mine detects 3.6g on 32 bit
[22:54] <omega^> Root privileges are required for running GParted
[22:54] <zsquareplusc> Saga: you can do that with init scipts. for example in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh or you can install your own script there and use update-rc.d
[22:54] <omega^> =/
[22:54] <omega^> help
[22:55] <Slart> van: 32bit ubuntu can only use about 3GB of memory.. the server version can use more but I think it will be slow.. use 64 bit if you want to use all your memory
[22:55] <van> dulak: what the hell.. 3.6? ....
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> omega^: gksudo gparted
[22:55] <DasEi> omega^:call gparted from terminal and give your root password
[22:55] <van> Slart: for server, it better to go to 64Bit then?
[22:55] <dulak> van: it depends on your kernel and hardware, the most 32bit can use is 3.8g afaik
[22:55] <omega^> i would make sweet seet love to all of you
[22:55] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  now again the ndiswrapper command to install as you did ...
[22:55] <van> dulak: hardware doesnt matter...
[22:55] <Slart> van: I use 64 bit for my desktop.. haven't had any serious problems so far..
[22:55] <van> dulak: agian.. kernel i used last one
[22:56] <jgoguen> matthias_N: ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[22:56] <van> Slart: does all 32bit application is compatible?
[22:56] <augie> Slart, I'm reading the launchpad link, but I'm not sure how to change the Xorg option to use EXA
[22:56] <dulak> van: sure it doesn't matter, that's why same kernel, different hardware one of my machines sees 3.6g and one sees 3.8g
[22:56] <Slart> van: there's some issues with flash.. but the regular software is available as 64 bit
[22:56] <augie> Slart, The Xorg option to force EXA:    Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/269357
[22:56] <easotokr> any help to recover my icons, i tried all recommended in many, many forums, but no luck, still no havinevloution, file-roller, etc, icon into their menu bars
[22:56] <Slart> augie: can't help you with that.. sorry
[22:56] <van> dulak: hmmm 3.8 is kinda hard to believe in a 32bit version... :/
[22:57] <Slart> van: the ones from the repos are
[22:57] <Slart> van: will you be running anything special?
[22:57] <van> Slart: I used it for a DATABASE server
[22:57] <Slart> dulak: it can see 4GB - <memory for mapping hardware stuff etc>.. so it will be different depending on hardware
[22:57] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmw5x.inf right
[22:57] <zsquareplusc> easotokr: when you open the gnome menu, go to an application, you can right click it with the mouse and say to add it to the panel
[22:57] <van> Slart: and database is eating lot of MEM :)
[22:57] <nidfar> is there a less busy channel where I can ask my question, so as not to take away from all these serious questions?
[22:57] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: right
[22:58] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: then after that, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[22:58] <augie> Slart, ok thanks tho
[22:58] <Slart> van: ah.. the famous database software.. I know that one.. are you running version 2.4 or 6.8? ;)
[22:58] <easotokr> zsquareplusc  hot those icons... the icons in menubar, i have only red ex
[22:58] <matthias_N_> jgoguen: done
[22:58] <SuperID> I've set up a VPN to a campus network.   The server is an MS pptp vpn, everything on my end looks ok and I can connect and authenticate.  The thing is some pages (google) load very fast but some (en.wikipedia.org) do not load at all....and some take 5+ minutes to load.  What could it be?
[22:58] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: any errors?
[22:59] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  no
[22:59] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: you made a mistake ;-) you asked to ask.. just ask your question and chances are higher you get an answer :-)
[22:59] <van> Slart: im using MySQL............
[22:59] <Shpook> So, I'd like to be able to access my home LAN server from anywhere on the web, and through the server, and computers that are connected. Where would I start researching?
[22:59] <herrmess> Vmware complains that it has no headers for the installed kernel -- BUT -- I have the latest linux-headers installed (on Intrepid). What gives?
[22:59] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: does ifconfig show any new interfaces yet?
[22:59] <Slart> van: ah.. mysql shouldn't be a problem
[22:59] <mooncup> DCC SEND "ffɦʞɔfɟ" 0 0 0
[22:59] <Bowtrik> ActionParsnip: Still there? I have an update on my theme issue. I tried a different theme, and rebooted gnome, and it stayed. Is there perhaps something simply wrong with the theme I chose?
[23:00] <Slart> van: things that might give you problems are mostly proprietary stuff.. for example my bank security software is 32 bit only.. so it doesn't work on 64 bit firefox..
[23:00] <Raiden[UT]> непривычно, пошел в квирк
[23:00] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  nop, needs to restart computer _
[23:00] <LjL> !ru | Raiden[UT]
[23:00] <zsquareplusc> easotokr: right click gnome menu -> menu editor. i can enable/disable the installed application icons there
[23:00] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  or something
[23:00] <[Raiden]> sorry ))
[23:00] <herrmess> Anyone familiar with vmware installation?
[23:00] <Raiden[UT]> q
[23:01] <nidfar> thanks.  ubuntu 8.04 didn't show needing updates on my mother's computer for 78 days.  I attempted to make sure the updates were all available, and found none.  I then attempted upgrading to 8.10.  It stalled out.  I ended the upgrade and restarted.  Now I keep getting the error message: There is already an x server running on display :0 and nothing I do will get past that.  attempted safe mode, no avail.
[23:01] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: shouldn't need to, maybe ndiswrapper was already loaded...run this and see if it works: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[23:01] <joolean> dumb question: I just did a fresh install of Intrepid on my laptop and wanted to add some additional packages via Synaptic -- e.g., Guile-1.8, Gnash, etc. -- but I don't see them in any of the repos.  What gives?
[23:01] <van> Slart: thanks you
[23:01] <chrziz> I'm having problems with mounting samba shares on another computer. Here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/69789/ - The one with the .65 ip works perfect, yet the other mounts, but wont let me read or write.
[23:01] <zsquareplusc> Slart, van , you can install a 32 bit chroot. so you can run 32 bit tools on your 64 bit machine easily. most 32 bit software also runs on 64 bits once you installed the 32 bit libs (e.g. google earth)
[23:01] <ay^> when could kernel 2.6.5+ come in ubuntu?
[23:01] <Slart> joolean: have you enabled the various repos? universe etc
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Bowtrik: very possible
[23:02] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  done, no complains ...
[23:02] <lightdragon> hey if I installed Ubuntu through windows, what will happen if i erase windows? Will I lose ubuntu too? How can avoid that?
[23:02] <joolean> Slart: they seem to have been enabled by default.  I can check that file in /etc/ whatever
[23:02] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: what does ifconfig say now?
[23:02] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  no wlan ...
[23:02] <van> is itbetter to run 32bit with 3GB or 64bit with 4GB ?
[23:02] <zsquareplusc> ay^: odd version numbers are development branches. they dont turn up for the wide audience
[23:02] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  eth0 and lo
[23:02] <sirjoebob> anyone know why i cant install ies4linux in ubuntu 8.10? HAVE to have IE for school
[23:02] <G1> Every now and then, my Elbuntu (Ubuntu using Enlightenment DR17) hits a wall and crashes, defaulting to a wall of code made up of the repetitive message here: http://pastebin.com/d3ba8bca1 Is this something that is easily solved, or am I going to have to file a bug with Enlightenment?
[23:02] <van> zsquareplusc: is itbetter to run 32bit with 3GB or 64bit with 4GB ?
[23:02] <Slart> van: I would go with 64 bit..
[23:03] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  seems that ndiswrapper is not working or conflict with ndiskt ?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> van: both will be fine, 4Gb id run 64bit for deffo
[23:03] <ay^> zsquareplusc: oh, dang cause I would like lm_sensors 3.0.3 but it says its for 2.6.5+ kernel :/
[23:03] <Slart> joolean: do you see any packages at all in synaptic?
[23:03] <zsquareplusc> van, i run 64 bit. just because i can :-)
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !backup > dVs--
[23:03] <van> ActionParsnip: wat is deffo?
[23:03] <van> thanks for all info guys :)
[23:03] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: do you mean ndisgtk?  ndisgtk is simply a graphical tool to install Windows drivers
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> van: deffo == definately
[23:03] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  yes
[23:03] <Slart> deffo = definately.. but cooler =)
[23:04] <lightdragon> hey if I installed Ubuntu through windows, what will happen if i erase windows? Will I lose ubuntu too? How can avoid that?
[23:04] <Thunderdome> DCC SEND "ffɦʞɔfɟ" 0 0 0
[23:04]  * van laughs
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> van: for 3Gb + ram, 64bit is always my choice, for less on a desktop, 32bit is fine
[23:04] <^Lem^> deffo, lol.. fo shizzle
[23:04] <^Lem^> Slart: how'd your download go?
[23:04] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  do you have both ...
[23:04] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: it won't conflict with ndiswrapper, in fact it requires ndiswrapper to work at all
[23:04] <Slart> ^Lem^: almost done..
[23:04] <augie> so I have 3 virtual desktops but prefs->keyboard shortcuts only see 2
[23:04] <joolean> Slart: Just checked, /etc/apt/sources.list seems to be correct.  Yes, I can see some packages in synaptic, just not always the ones I would expect: E.g., doing a "quick search" for "guile" turns up "guile-1.8-libs" and NOTHING else
[23:04] <spy_black> #brasil
[23:04] <unlink> when i click the applications button (i.e. the main menu in the panel) or if i hit alt-f1, then my entire X session freezes (but i can still ctrl-alt-fN)
[23:04] <Slart> ^Lem^: 2 minutes left
[23:04] <RobertLaptop> anyone have a link to any howto on setting up network managers with cell phone cards?
[23:04] <zsquareplusc> joolean: doy ou have universe and multiverse repositories enabled (synaptic->package sources)
[23:04] <van> Is it possible to install the ubuntu 8.10 64 BIT on a 8.04 32BIT?
[23:04] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  OKEY,  did you do an upgrade from internet or by cd ...
[23:05] <van> wil it be compatible
[23:05] <break_free> is there  a way I can set compiz to be disabled when on battery power?
[23:05] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: only thing I can think of is that your card is one of the few that won't work with ndiswrapper or the new wl driver
[23:05] <Slart> van: you can't upgrade to a 64 bit install from a 32 bit, no
[23:05] <van> Slart: doh!
[23:05] <^Lem^> Slart: sweet... is firefox reporting the right stats on the file? i didn't think to check the download progress past 2^32 bytes..
[23:05] <ACSpike[Home]> what package contains the wallpapers?
[23:05] <joolean> Slart: huh, this is weird -- they're actually in the "All" filter, they just don't show up under "quick search."  Okay, that's good enough for me
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> van: id do a clean install if you are changing installed architecture
[23:05] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  okey well the wireless worked with hardy ...
[23:05] <matthias_N_> at least ...
[23:05] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  at least ...
[23:05] <zsquareplusc> lightdragon: wubi install? it creates disk images which you would need to backup
[23:05] <nidfar> thanks.  ubuntu 8.04 didn't show needing updates on my mother's computer for 78 days.  I attempted to make sure the updates were all available, and found none.  I then attempted upgrading to 8.10.  It stalled out.  I ended the upgrade and restarted.  Now I keep getting the error message: There is already an x server running on display :0 and nothing I do will get past that.  attempted safe mode, no avail.
[23:05] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy to Hardy to Intrepid, all during the beta cycles, and all over the Internet, but I just reinstalled Intrepid recently so I could switch to 64-bit
[23:06] <Slart> joolean: that seems kind of weird.. there should be several hits for "guile".. I got 20+
[23:06] <Slart> joolean: ah.. so problem solved?
[23:06] <WB[m3n]> DCC SEND "ffɦʞɔfɟ" 0 0 0
[23:06] <van> ActionParsnip: okthanks
[23:06] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  i upgrade but not in  beta like you ...
[23:06] <augie> so I have 3 virtual desktops but prefs->keyboard shortcuts only see 2
[23:06] <Slart> ^Lem^: yes.. so far it's alright.. counting properly...
[23:06] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  in what part is wlan configured, dop you knoiw ...
[23:06] <lightdragon> zsquareplusc: Thanks, I'll look into that
[23:07] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  i am alstoast sure the ndoswrapper is to blame
[23:07] <Slart> ^Lem^: but as soon as it finished.... bad firefox.. bad bad firefox
[23:07] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: maybe you can complete the upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[23:07] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: for me, it's all configured automatically, once I load the the wl driver NetworkManager takes over and it Just Works
[23:07] <nidfar> zsquareplusc: I can't get to the desktop to do that.
[23:07] <matthias_N_> jgoguen: is there an alternative to ndiswrapper ...
[23:08] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: you can do that at the text console
[23:08] <^Lem^> Slart: ahh good, so you can confirm my report. i've never filed a bug before, should it be done, and if so, how?
[23:08] <unlink> i can't get to my applications menu... clicking on it freezes X
[23:08] <nidfar> zquareplusc: the shell from the safe mode menu?
[23:08] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  what is network configuration tool
[23:08] <Slart> ^Lem^: well.. neither have I.. I'm browsing the mozilla site atm
[23:08] <tonsxchat> my WM just died but I had gedit open with an unsaved file.  gedit is still running (as per ps).  Is there a way I can recover what I typed and/or make gedit reappear?
[23:08] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: no, if it won't work natively try ndiswrapper...if ndiswrapper doesn't work, you're probably stuck
[23:09] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: the one almost everyone should be using is NetworkManager, it's an icon near your clock
[23:09] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: doesn't matter how you boot. you can get to a text mode login with ctrl+alt+F1
[23:09] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  i guess i need to reinstall from scratch
[23:09] <nidfar> zsquareplusc: then merely type taht command to see if it works that way?
[23:09] <joolean> Slart: for the moment, yeah.  Thanks for hand-holding.  I'll poke it a little more and if it looks truly screwy I'll post something on launchpad
[23:09] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: I would suggest staying with Hardy, it's a LTS release so it'll be supported for a long time...I've heard that not all wireless works with Intrepid
[23:09] <unlink> fwiw, i'm using metacity, and not compiz
[23:09] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  i have just the computer screens and bluetooth and the trashbin on the other side of the watvch'
[23:09] <unlink> 8.10
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: you can log in there and then run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[23:10] <Slart> joolean: I don't think this one will set the world on fire.. the downloaded file seems alright.. it's probably just the text in the download manager that is wrong
[23:10] <Slart> joolean: but it's a bug never the less
[23:10] <unlink> alt-f2 works fine, and so does ctrl-alt-f1
[23:10] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  but hardy is taking all cpu power when i am watching movies ...
[23:10] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: the computer screens is the NetworkManager icon...it looks like that when you're using a cable, and it looks like 4 bars on wireless
[23:10] <nidfar> zsquareplusc: when can I push those buttons to do that?  during startup?
[23:10] <matthias_N_> jgoguen: no i do not have that one ...
[23:10] <FFForever> what is a good light weight wm for nix?
[23:10] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: what are you watching movies with?
[23:10] <arooni> once i have openjdk-6-doc installed on ubuntu hardy... how do i access it?
[23:11] <unlink> FFForever: xmonad, fluxbox
[23:11] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  vlc
[23:11] <matthias_N_> the same with totem player
[23:11] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: try mplayer, I use it and I don't have any problems with CPU
[23:11] <owen1> I want to connect external monitor to my laptop. how to send 'video out' command using the terminal?
[23:11] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: when it should show you the graphical login.
[23:11] <nidfar> zsquareplusc: trying that
[23:11] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  okey, well thanks for the help, but i guess i will install from cd
[23:12] <matthias_N_> if i can not figure it out ...
[23:12] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: sorry I couldn't be more help
[23:12] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  thanlks any way you did your best ...
[23:12] <zsquareplusc> owen1: you could use the preferences->screen resolution tool from the menu?
[23:13] <zsquareplusc> matthias_N_: if video players eat too much CPU, overlays for your graphics card/drivers may not work.
[23:14] <matthias_N_> zsquareplusc:  hmm thanks did notthink about that, was looking for processes that i could kill but find nothing ..
[23:14] <owen1> zsquareplusc: i can change the resolution from the setting section. but how to do 'video out'? btw, i use xfce, not gnome.
[23:15] <RoosterJuice> hi everyone i'm a new user to ubuntu.  Whenever I try to download drivers using the hardware drivers application, they wont download... it just sits at zero percent.. als when i use apt-get a lot of the time stuff downloads at like 10-20k/s average... is this normal?
[23:15] <snowrichard> someone shooting outside
[23:15] <zsquareplusc> owen1: ah. maybe xranr and there are special tools for ati and nvidia for tv out
[23:16] <chmac> What's the difference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree ?
[23:16] <zsquareplusc> RoosterJuice: that a bit slow, unless you have one of the ancient alanog modems..
[23:16] <mewshi|wc> hi, kids! :D
[23:16] <^Lem^> Slart: just noticed you on irc.mozilla.org .. did anyone have anything to say?
[23:17] <owen1> zsquareplusc: ok. i'll read xrandr man page.
[23:17] <shadowwulf> anybody having issues with ubuntu and amd 64 x2 system ?
[23:17] <tonsxchat> shadowwulf: yes, I have ubuntu but I don't have a 64x2 system ;)
[23:17] <Slart> ^Lem^: nah.. they just told me to file a bug report.. lazy bast*rds ;)
[23:17] <mewshi|wc> Hey, how likely is Ubuntu to work with an 802.11n card?
[23:17] <Slart> yes.. sorry.. language.. I'll go sit in the corner
[23:17] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  sorry again but what is the name of the icon you haver with bars that i am missing, i am hoping i can install it ...
[23:18] <ogre> How can I remove all the extra languages to save space?
[23:18] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: the icon with the 2 computer screens will turn into an icon with bars once it's using wireless, it's the same program
[23:18] <shadowwulf> well i am trying to install 32bit 8.10 but it will install just fine ... but the final screen comes up screwed up and i cant log in
[23:18] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: the name of the program is nm-applet, it's part of the network-manager-gnome package
[23:18] <break_free> ogre, system > administration > language support, uncheck the languages you want and hit aply
[23:18] <mewshi|wc> Hey, how likely is Ubuntu to work with an 802.11n card?
[23:19] <nidfar> zsquareplusc: succesfully logged in, tried to run update and am being told "dpkg was interrupted.  you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' when I do that it tells me I need super user acces to do that.
[23:19] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  okey i have that one but when i go to the driver and choose to configure than i get this error that the network configuration tool is missing ...
[23:19] <Smith> shadowwulf, i had the same issue but i am working on a old dell so i just went with xubuntu and it rand smoothly.
[23:19] <^Lem^> Slart: haha.. ok cool, thanks for your help. might get onto a bug report tonight
[23:19] <Slart> ^Lem^: so, do you want to report the bug and get the glory, girls and groupies? =)
[23:19] <pyrohotdog> How can I remove all the extra languages to save space?
[23:19] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: just prefix commands with "sudo" if you need to be superuser
[23:19] <owen1> zsquareplusc: xrandr has output parameter. do u think i can set it to the video port and it will display my screen on the external monitor instead of the default laptop monitor?
[23:19] <^Lem^> Slart: yeah, in about 12-14 hours i'll do that
[23:19] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: where are you going when you get this error?
[23:20] <break_free> pyrohotdog, system > administration > language support, uncheck the languages you want and hit aply
[23:20] <Slart> ^Lem^: good luck
[23:20] <^Lem^> Slart: I suspect reporting it on the mozilla bug tracker is more appropriate than in Ubuntu?
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> owen1: i dont knwo, i dont use that tool on a regular basis
[23:20] <pyrohotdog> break_free: Thank you. :)
[23:20] <LjL> pyrohotdog: install the "localepurge" package
[23:20] <nidfar> zsquareplusc: oh yeah duh....
[23:20] <break_free> pyrohotdog, np
[23:20] <mavsman4457> How do I install new things to install to add to the top panel?
[23:20] <owen1> zsquareplusc: ok. thanks a lot.
[23:20] <matthias_N_> system-adminstration-windows wireless drivers-configure network
[23:21] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: it may be looking for a tool that most people never need anymore
[23:21] <Saga> Hi people -- I can't get bluetooth to work with my devices -- I'm using 8.10 -- There's some outdated -- No hidd --search and etc.
[23:21] <kicco> hi there! from your experience could it be possible that an apic problem causes random reboots?
[23:21] <matthias_N_> jgoguen: okey just curious because i guess it is there i enable wireless ...
[23:21] <kicco> i dunno what else i should chack
[23:21] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: if you don't have eth1 or wlan0 showing when you run ifconfig, you won't get very far even if you didn't get that error
[23:22] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  okey, will give upp and burn an cd instead and try ...
[23:22] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: no, wireless is automatically enabled once ndiswrapper module is loaded
[23:22] <kicco> it happens mostly when gdm greeter fires up
[23:22] <chattterAtFreeno> hi, i installed the java jdk, and can compile, but where do i find the javadoc?  anyone?
[23:22] <G1> Every now and then, my Elbuntu (Ubuntu using Enlightenment DR17) hits a wall and crashes, defaulting to a wall of code made up of the repetitive message here: http://pastebin.com/m7f4e1260 Is this something that is easily solved, or am I going to have to file a bug with Enlightenment?
[23:22] <Slart> ^Lem^: sounds reasonable.. it's a firefox bug after all.. not an ubuntu thing
[23:23] <kicco> i thought it was a video driver matter but i tried vesa and still not working
[23:23] <SpiffyBalak> hey guys...I have two problems
[23:23] <nidfar> squareplusc: did that, dpkg thing ran, once finished ran update again, got same message about dpkg
[23:23] <SpiffyBalak> 1. File open/save dialogs load very slowly
[23:23] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  ok but i have some other funny problems with nautilus, still think i have something to win ...
[23:23] <snowrichard> got my wireless working
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> kicco: apic has to do with interrupts and when these go wrong it could give freezez i gueess. did you try booting with noapic kernel option?
[23:23] <^Lem^> Slart: ok, cheers
[23:24] <SpiffyBalak> and 2. when I open up Thunar (just Thunar), my CPU gets eaten up by two ntfs-3g processes, but the heavy usage stops when I pkill gam_server
[23:24] <kicco> zsquareplusc: i tried but the result is the same... i have no clues from logs, i tried to remove ndiswrapper, added noapic, switched to vesa driver...
[23:25] <kicco> the only thing i found in logs is a gdm_greeter segfault
[23:25] <spolvid> How can I configure GRUB?
[23:25] <carlinhos> can anyone help me with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975478
[23:25] <spolvid> Right now it just boots my live CD.
[23:25] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  how do i know if i use 32bit or 64bit
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> kicco: run memtest86? it is on the live cd, when oyu boot it... (check for bad memory)
[23:25] <mavsman4457> Can I install new things to add to the top panel?
[23:25] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: it depends on your CPU...if you're not sure, use 32-bit
[23:26] <Saga> Could somebody lead me to the right forum link?  The information for BluetoothSetup is outdated.  I'm trying to get my mouse/keyboard to work.  It's difficult without any bluetooth interaction.
[23:26] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  i think that is best
[23:26] <spolvid> !grub
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> mavsman4457: yes, you can add applets and starter icons to the panel
[23:26] <kicco> zsquareplusc: mmh. good idea i think, i'll try this right now
[23:26] <augie> amarok won't play mp3's
[23:27] <kicco> !mp3
[23:27] <nidfar> squareplusc:(reposting so you don't have to search as far) did that, dpkg thing ran, once finished ran update again, got same message about dpkg
[23:27] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  thanks i will try from cd instead ...
[23:27] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  thanks
[23:28] <jgoguen> matthias_N_: no problem...hope it works out for you
[23:28] <matthias_N_> jgoguen:  me too ...
[23:28] <zsquareplusc> nidfar: hm. i'm no expert there. maybe someone else can jump in.. how to fix your system from an aborted upgrade...
[23:28] <mavsman4457> zsquareplusc, how do I install new applets
[23:29] <snowrichard> right click on the top bar
[23:29] <zsquareplusc> mavsman4457: you found out about right clicking on the panel and use "add applet"? more applets you can find by running system->synaptics and search for applets
[23:31] <Snappl> if i just installed Ubuntu, are there any apps or anyhing that you guys recommend i get?
[23:31] <zsquareplusc> Snappl: what application domain? games? science (stellarium e.g.)?
[23:31] <swegner> Hi all.  I've created a few custom packages which I've signed with debsign and then uploaded to my PPA.  Can I add some key file to my Software Sources so I don't get a warning message everytime I update from my PPA?
[23:31] <cmdbbq> i have a quick question, i am trying to liberate the audio from an avi file, so that i may edit a small portion of it, i understand i can demux this with ffmpeg, but am not sure how, the man page is a bit overwhelming
[23:32] <augie> mp3 has no sounds (amarok/vlc) after installing libxine1-ffmpeg
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> cmdbbq: try audacity. recent versions should be able to import from videos
[23:32] <yao_ziyuan> i have to say ubuntu 8.10's user online status integration with pidgin is cool
[23:33] <cmdbbq> zsquareplusc: audacity is next to unusable for me
[23:33] <yao_ziyuan> or it's just a marketing tool
[23:33] <cmdbbq> i can only get it to run with OSS in a pulseaudio wrapper and it freezes up on almost any action
[23:33] <goacide> so this new 8.10 ubuntu actuall works on my laptop!!!!
[23:33] <goacide> great news but still
[23:34] <goacide> i cant connect the wifi to my ap for some reason
[23:34] <mastrgamr> Xchat comes free on Linux?
[23:34] <zsquareplusc> swegner: synaptics->packet sources. there is a tab with lists the keys
[23:34] <tonsxchat> mastrgamr: yes, Xchat is free.
[23:34] <mastrgamr> cool, gotta pay on windows =9
[23:34] <goacide> the application for adding a wireless connection does not have a list from whcih to choose access points
[23:34] <cmdbbq> mastrgamr: most programs come free on Linux, Xchat included
[23:34] <goacide> i find this odd
[23:34] <Slart> mastrgamr: there is a free version for windows too
[23:35] <swegner> zsquareplusc: Yes, that's the screen I'm looking at.  But which key do I add here?  If I go into "Passwords and Encryption Keys", and export the public key to my PGP signature, is that what I use?
[23:35] <zsquareplusc> cmdbbq: i also had no sound until i selected ALSA: fromt as output. but it works without freezes otheriwse
[23:35] <shadowwulf> anybody have a AMD dual core system here having or had issues running ubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:35] <zsquareplusc> swegner: i think so. if you used this key to sign your packages
[23:35] <mastrgamr> i havent
[23:36] <shadowwulf> mine will not boot to a log in screen
[23:36] <cmdbbq> zsquareplusc: i had no sound under ALSA
[23:36] <cmdbbq> :P
[23:36] <cmdbbq> go figure
[23:36] <swegner> zsquareplusc: Yes, I'm fairly sure this is the one I used.  I just tried adding it to the Software Sources, and it appears to have accepted it.  I'll have to upload a new package to actually see if it works.  Thanks for the help.
[23:36] <panfist> hi, i have no sound in 8.04 from my onboard sound over analog or HDMI. everything looks like it was detected and installed properly
[23:37] <Snappl>  if i just installed Ubuntu, are there any apps or anyhing that you guys recommend i get?
[23:38] <zsquareplusc> cmdbbq: anyway. vlc can also transcode media files. i guess you could use it to extract audio only too
[23:38] <swegner> Snappl: It really depends on your needs.  Is there any particular software from your old OS which you're trying to emulate?
[23:38] <cmdbbq> Snappl many, how long have you got;)
[23:38] <Snappl> not really..
[23:38] <Home_> what is the location and name of the file where you can add apps to start at boot?
[23:38] <Snappl> i'm just interested in what you guys thuink are useful programs
[23:38] <tonsxchat> Home_: init.d and rc.d are what you're after
[23:38] <Snappl> All i've got is Wine, because i came form windows..
[23:38] <tonsxchat> Snappl: what windows programs did you use a lot?
[23:38] <Home_> tonsxchat, thanks :)
[23:38] <cmdbbq> vlc is a great media player, abiword is a lightly featured but extremely quick word processor
[23:39] <BrickHaus> pangloss: you here?
[23:39] <tonsxchat> Home_: read the manpages though
[23:39] <swegner> Snappl: well, like I said, it depends on your needs and what you're used it.  For example, I always install the application launch gnome-do, which is similar to Launchy for Windows.
[23:39] <MacGyverNL> Can the ubuntu live CD's write to an existing NTFS partition ootb, or does it require remounting those partitions as rw?
[23:39] <BrickHaus> pangloss: I added you to the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/296045
[23:39] <Snappl> well, i need to know about getting Itunes... And that's about it..
[23:39] <Snappl> i'll look into VLC, but i needs my ipod support
[23:39] <shadowwulf> banshee
[23:40] <shadowwulf> i think thats a itune clone
[23:40] <cmdbbq> Snappl: just browsing through the forums, or Applications>Add/Remove Programs
[23:40] <cmdbbq> could give you a place to start
[23:40] <charles> Hello folks. I'm brand new to Ubuntu and would really appreciate some help regarding a technical issue.
[23:40] <Snappl> mm hmm
[23:40] <zsquareplusc> !ask
[23:40] <jseamus> i have a problem, need help.
[23:40] <BrickHaus> pangloss: thanks for all your help. That last link you sent didn't help. In that instance his/her eth interface atleast showed up in ifconfig. For me it doesn't.
[23:41] <cmdbbq> rhythmbox, installed by default, should handle your iPod, there is a plugin which you can find in the edit menu
[23:41] <winferno> charles, Just ask your question, since it's a busy channel. If someone can help they probably will. =)
[23:41] <charles> I've just installed 8.10 on one of my machines. I can see my external network drive and I can open the root directory of it but as soon as I try to open a folder on it, it kicks me out and send me to my /home directory on my local machine
[23:42] <jseamus> whenever i attempt to open Home Folder, it wont open and nothing else will. all objects on the desktop disappear.
[23:42] <outerspace142857> anyone know why Anjuta will compile, but won't run execute program?
[23:42] <shadowwulf> can anybody tell me why i cant use ubuntu 8.10 on my AMD64 dualcore ? i have a boot screen that looks scrambled ... and if i do get to the desktop it is blank or black and have no icons
[23:42] <charles> I have another machine running 8.04 and it works perfectly.
[23:42] <enunes> Hi, i've run lockfile-remove in some file that was blocking my apt-get calls. Now my systeem won't boot neither shutdown. The leds never turn off. Anyone has a clue?
[23:43] <winferno> charles: oh strange... is this using NFS or Samba? It sounds like a permission problem at first glance.
[23:43] <zsquareplusc> jseamus: sounds like nautils us crashing..
[23:43] <charles> I can access all the shared resources on my winidows machines. It's just the external drive that's giving me an issue
[23:43] <pyrohotdog> Is it possible to connect to two wireless networks at once? Via onboard wireless, and usb wireless?
[23:43] <jseamus> zsquareplusc: how do i fix it?
[23:43] <charles> I beleive it's using Samba.
[23:43] <jkinney> Hello all... hoping a command line / background process guru is waiting out there to help me :-D
[23:44] <augie> hey guys, if I want to program in c what should I install? ( I just need gcc and vim)
[23:44] <charles> Interestingly, I can access it as an ftp but not smb
[23:44] <jkinney> I keep needing to reboot my machine to be able to ssh or ftp (web front end works just fine all the time but external access keeps getting denied)
[23:44] <EvanCarroll> How do I disable modelines? I don't have a single idea wtf they are comming from, this bulletproof-x without a conf setup sucks.
[23:45] <charles> Any thoughts?
[23:45] <zsquareplusc> jseamus: thats a different problem... maybe you can find a bug report on launchpad.net regarding nautilus that is similar to your problem
[23:45] <winferno> When you say it kicks you out, how are you accessing it then?
[23:45] <winferno> charles:
[23:45] <charles> yes winferno?
[23:45] <jseamus> zsquareplusc: thnx. ciao.
[23:46] <Datamin> hi
[23:46] <Datamin> i have ubuntu 8.10, how do i upgrade wine to the newest version (my acual ver. is 1.01)
[23:46] <colton> How could I find a chatroom which focuses on just mysql???
[23:46] <charles> I can go to network, I can see the extrnal drive, and I can open it. I then see the public folder (the only folder in the root directory) but I can't open that folder.
[23:47] <jkinney> anyone know where I could look besides /etc/hosts.deny?
[23:47] <TiMiDo> charles, install samba
[23:47] <TiMiDo> jkinney, iptables?
[23:47] <jkinney> when I repeatedly can't access my machine without rebooting it
[23:47] <shadowwulf> anybody that can help me with AMD64 issues ?
[23:47] <charles> winferno: It's installed and seems to be working flawlessly to access all my other windows machines.
[23:47] <jkinney> TiMiDo: I don't have iptables installed... though I did at one point
[23:47] <TiMiDo> shadowwulf, #ubuntu-amd64
[23:47] <lightdragon> zsquareplusc: Thanks again... this seems to answer my dilemma!
[23:47] <colton> hello
[23:47] <jgoguen> !anyone | shadowwulf
[23:48] <jkinney> TiMiDo: I also had denyhosts installed but that is no longer insatlled either
[23:48] <TiMiDo> jkinney, try looking around. something like iptables
[23:48] <winferno> charles: I'd double check the permission settings. I forget where samba looks for that though.
[23:48] <charles> winferno: As i say, I can see the root directory, just can't go deeper than that
[23:48] <jkinney> TiMiDo: but clearly something is remaining from either one of those IDS's that is causing probs
[23:48] <pyrohotdog> Can I connect to two wireless networks simultaneously with my onboard card and usb adapter?
[23:48] <kicco> how reliable is memtest?
[23:48] <Flannel> TiMiDo, shadowwulf: That channel doesn't exist.  This is the proper channel.
[23:48] <winferno> charles: can you read or write from the root that you have mounted on the remote machine?
[23:48] <Flannel> colton: ##mysql
[23:48] <jkinney> TiMiDo: I know that iptables can prevent my access (As can hosts.deny) but as I've said, neither of those are currently the root cause
[23:48] <TiMiDo> okey Flannel
[23:49] <KristieTS> would someone be able to help me get pidging running?  i tried to start it, but nothing happens
[23:49] <jkinney> TiMiDo: a search for iptables (locate iptables) or or
[23:49] <RoosterJuice> is there a way to make apt-get get all the dependencies before it gets the app
[23:49] <jkinney> TiMiDo: or a which iptables yields nothing
[23:49] <zsquareplusc> kicco: it did not find bugy RAM on the other box that was crashing... while load tests such as prime95 found ram problems
[23:49] <KristieTS> i tried both running Pidgin from the icon and from the terminal, and nothing :(
[23:49] <TiMiDo> jkinney: ic.
[23:49] <charles> winferno: there's the smb.conf file. I've run a conparison between that file in 8.10 and the same file in 8.04 and there doesn't seem to b a difference.
[23:49] <winferno> pyrohotdog: I don't see why not, but I dunno if the GUI tools support that. If you're just using iwconfig to set up the wireless cards it should work fine.
[23:49] <TiMiDo> jkinney: have you check youre router firewall perhaps?
[23:49] <shadowwulf> can somebody help me with amd64 issues in 8.10 .. i can boot live CD .. but when installed will not make it to the log in screen
[23:49] <colton> #mysql
[23:50] <colton> mysql
[23:50] <jkinney> TiMiDo: like an external hardware router or firewall?
[23:50] <colton> I don't get it, is it magic?
[23:50] <TiMiDo> right jkinney
[23:50] <augie> does vim-common contain the normal vim?
[23:50] <charles> winferno: I agree that it looks like a permission issue but I'm at a loss on how to correct it.
[23:50] <EvanCarroll> shadowwulf: don't use the amd64 version unless you can ask a question that doesn't suck.
[23:50] <TiMiDo> augie: yeah
[23:50] <colton> do I just type mysql?
[23:50] <jkinney> TiMiDo: yea, that wouldn't be it since I have several other machines behind the same PIX that don't exibit the prob
[23:50] <kicco> zsquareplusc: you are everywhere! tnx. this f#@$r hangs randomly even when  booting from a liveCD
[23:50] <augie> TiMiDo, ok, do I install build-essential to get gcc?
[23:50] <snowrichard>  /join #mysql
[23:50] <winferno> charles: you might want to search smb.conf for any occurances of a machine name or IP. It might be allowing only the other machine you *can* access the share from.
[23:51] <TiMiDo> augie: sudo apt-get install gcc
[23:51] <charles> winferno: Can I read or write.... ? I'll try.
[23:51] <yao_ziyuan> it is still not obvious how to change workspace number in ubuntu
[23:51] <jkinney> TiMiDo: They all have the same ports opeoned and we don't do any blocking (at least dynamically) at the firewall level
[23:51] <shadowwulf> well i am using a 32bit OS on a amd64 ... how else should ask a sucky question then ?
[23:51] <yao_ziyuan> how ?
[23:51] <TiMiDo> jkinney: but double check.
[23:51] <winferno> charles: I ask because if you can, I'd say you can more or less rule out a network problem.
[23:51] <charles> winferno: okay. I'll look for that.
[23:51] <EvanCarroll> shadowwulf: so,  use a 32bit os on an amd64.
[23:51] <shadowwulf> i did and i get the same thing
[23:51] <abizmol> [1425558.800453] tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
[23:51] <abizmol> But I have no tun0
[23:51] <sjoerd>
[23:52] <jkinney> TiMiDo: It just doesn't make sense to be anything but a sofware issue with my ubuntu. How else would rebooting the machine allow me to re-connect with everything else being exactly the same time
[23:52] <icheishvili> does anyone know why firefox performs so poorly on ubuntu?
[23:52] <Flannel> shadowwulf: That's likely not a processor issue at all.  Likely graphics card related.
[23:52] <TiMiDo> jkinney: try rebooting.
[23:52] <cylux> Hey guys, so I upgraded to intrepid. The problem is, on the GDM login screen, I can hear the drum sound clearly, but within Gnome, no sound works. Any ideas?
[23:52] <jkinney> TiMiDo: And I don't have admin access to our PIX to check anyway :-)
[23:52] <zsquareplusc> abizmol: you also need to run a command line tool to install tun devices
[23:52] <EvanCarroll> shadowwulf: What I'm trying to get it, as "doesn't work" is never going to help you make it work.
[23:52] <jkinney> TiMiDo: rebooting what?
[23:52] <TiMiDo> jkinney: youre machine
[23:52] <colton> So I put "$ping 'address'" in the console and still, after 5 minutes, it is still pinging. how do I stop it?
[23:52] <jkinney> TiMiDo: rebooting my ubuntu machine lets me back in as I've said
[23:52] <abizmol> zsquareplusc, I'm using tunctl. But it only seems to create tap devices. Which one do I need to use?
[23:53] <shadowwulf> how i i find that out ? it seems 8.04 works fine .. and when i did upgrade ... it failed to run ......
[23:53] <icheishvili> i'm not talking about the ipv6 thing, I always turn that off--but rendering speeds in general (like scrolling a page) are just way slower than on my windows box
[23:53] <jkinney> TiMiDo: but then after a few hours like 8 or so it locks me out and required another reboot
[23:53] <cylux> colton: CTRL+C
[23:53] <kicco> colton: CRTL+C
[23:53] <winferno> shadowwulf: What EvanCarroll means to say is the you weren't very specific about describing your problem.
[23:53] <cylux> =]
[23:53] <kicco> dehihi
[23:53] <jkinney> TiMiDo: and during that time I've had zero failed login attempts
[23:53] <jkinney> TiMiDo: my hosts.deny is free and clear
[23:53] <jkinney> TiMiDo: I just don't know where else to check
[23:53] <cylux> colton: Instead try  ping -c 3 address   It'll only run three times
[23:53] <SnelGids> hey guys
[23:53] <jkinney> TiMiDo: I looked through the cron folders and jobs and didn't see anything, though I didn't really know what I was looking for
[23:53] <charles> winferno: I can't write to the root directory of the external drive. I get an error saying "not supported by backend"
[23:53] <cylux> Hey guys, so I upgraded to intrepid. The problem is, on the GDM login screen, I can hear the drum sound clearly, but within Gnome, no sound works. Any ideas?
[23:54] <augie> TiMiDo, I just installed build-essential and it has more than what I need, thx
[23:54] <shadowwulf> ok, i have a 32bit OS that works in Live CD, but when installed goes to a scrambled screen and i can not log in
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> abizmol: that is it. i think that should create tun0 etc devices
[23:54] <sdkochman> register sidisok
[23:54] <colton> I'm afraid that due to extranious circumstances (that is, I set the hot key ctrl-c to a different function) that is not going to work. What else could I do?
[23:54] <kicco> cylux: volume?
[23:54] <abizmol> zsquareplusc, It doesn't. Hence the problem
[23:54] <SnelGids> how do i bott ubuntu right off my memory stick without actually having to install it on my PC ?
[23:54] <charles> So i can see the root directory but can't do anything with it.
[23:54] <cylux> kicco: Up
[23:54] <SnelGids> boot*
[23:54] <icheishvili> also, it always hovers around 20% cpu usage, even when doing nothing
[23:54] <kicco> cylux: tried alsamixer from terminal?
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> colton: kill -sigint <procid> in an other shell
[23:54] <cylux> kicco: I haven't good call.
[23:55] <icheishvili> so yeah, it definitely feels like firefox is a second-class citizen on linux
[23:55] <cylux> kicco: alsamixer doesn't even work. It's all blue
[23:55] <spiritssight> I need help with a setup, I am creating three parts, I don't know for sure what settings t6o use for them
[23:55] <SnelGids> which ubuntu version should i get in order to boot directly off my Memory Stick ??
[23:55] <jkinney> TiMiDo: Any other thoughts as to where I could look that relates to sshd or ftp that would cause me to not be able to connect?
[23:55] <SnelGids> which ubuntu version should i get in order to boot directly off my Memory Stick ??
[23:55] <kicco> cylux: mmh... that's weird
[23:55] <SnelGids> which ubuntu version should i get in order to boot directly off my Memory Stick ??
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> SnelGids: stop spamming
[23:56] <jkinney> TiMiDo: The weird thing is that my webapps that are being served with ubuntu are still live and fine when i'm denied access (maybe not weird, but interesting to note)
[23:56] <SnelGids> aren't you guys suppose to help ??
[23:56] <SnelGids> plusc
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> SnelGids: the desktop live cd has a installer that can create bootable USB sticks
[23:56] <icheishvili> again, if anyone knows why firefox performs so bad, I would love to know
[23:56] <kitche> !enter | SnelGids
[23:56] <LjL> !attitude | SnelGids
[23:56] <SnelGids> desktop live ?
[23:56] <icheishvili> because as it stands right now, my vista box at work smokes it
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> SnelGids: just dont post your question 3 times in 10 seconds. we will try to help
[23:56] <kicco> cylux: from terminal try to give "cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp" (stop with CTRL+C) you should hear some awful sounds
[23:56] <bennymack1> So, I see that apt-cache has an -installed flag, but what about showing packages that are not installed?
[23:56] <icheishvili> and that is just wrong
[23:56] <winferno> charles: you may want to set up another share on the same machine that's not on an external drive, in a low-risk directory, then turn off all security on the share (there are some examples in smb.conf), and see if that works. If it does, you can work backward from there.
[23:57] <cylux> kicco: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[23:57] <winferno> charles: and by low risk I mean, no important files there.
[23:57] <icheishvili> oh, I should also mention that my hardware is pretty good too, this is best box I have
[23:57] <kicco> cylux: what says "fuser /dev/dsp"?
[23:58] <shadowwulf> i have a 32bit OS that works in Live CD, but when installed goes to a scrambled screen and i can not log in, any ideas ?
[23:58] <SnelGids> zsquareplusc , ljl at the ubuntu site i see Desktop Edition only
[23:58] <cylux> kicco: Nothing comes up, is it a permissions issue?
[23:58] <MHz128> hello world!
[23:58] <elein> dev tools are not listed on the add remove tag so I'm trying to use apt-get.  But I need to know the name of the packages.  Right now I'm looking for the X11 dev package that contains (among other things) Xos.h.  Does anyone know the package name?
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> SnelGids: the desaktop live cd is the normal CD that most users get. boot it on a PC. then you can go to system->admin->create usb disk
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> SnelGids: yes, that is the right one
[23:58] <sirjoebob> hey all. anyone know how to get ies4linux working in ubuntu 8.10? installer crashes on me everytime
[23:58] <colton> I still don't understand how to pick a different chat room to ask my questions in.
[23:58] <colton> is there a place where these chatrooms are listed?
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> colton: type "/join #channel" . /list lists all of them
[23:59] <SnelGids> zswuarepplusc, am currently running windows XP
[23:59] <kicco> cylux: maybe... dunno which group is allowed to use audio, you maybe should check this
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> colton: usually there is also a menu where oyu can select channels with filters
[23:59] <zir-rt> hi, How can I configure the mouse to one single click for gnome programs (I am using kde)? Do a need to edit a config file or install a config program?
[23:59] <SnelGids> must i install the ubuntu to be able to make a memory stick ?


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