[08:26] <Zer0Ry0k0> aardfox:  then you just drag and drop files into the CD drive through the folder browser thingy
[08:26] <bitwiseshiftleft> let me be the ++nth to say, congrats on the release
[08:26] <JoseStefan> bitwiseshiftleft, you are the 1st
[08:26] <sladen> Vaske_Car: ah, excellent.
[08:27] <aardfox> nautilus is a cd burning program?
[08:27] <bitwiseshiftleft> JoseStefan: heh, that's amusing...
[08:27] <aardfox> Wow I am really confused now...All i want to do is run a .sh
[08:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> oh, sorry, that's what I use it for
[08:27] <kevinmiller> Anyways, I am spoiled with my Mac, because it sets up the wirelss connection Auto
[08:27] <JoseStefan> aardfox, to run a sh, you can do: bash filename.sh
[08:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> there is a couple packages you can install to make it do that
[08:27] <kevinmiller> So doing it manually, I have no idea what I'm doing on Ubuntu
[08:27] <duncanm> hey thybo
[08:28] <Vaske_Car> now we dont have init.d no more?
[08:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> ummmm
[08:28] <LedStyle> Why "sh" is linking to "dash" and not for "bash" now?
[08:28] <fluxinator> Vaske_Car, no init.d?
[08:28] <JoseStefan> LedStyle, it is?
[08:28] <aardfox> Jose how do I do that within gnome's GUI? I'm trying to learn to do everything in such a way that could easily be taught to others
[08:28] <LedStyle> JoseStefan, yeap!
[08:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: do you know how to set up the router?
[08:28] <duncanm> bah
[08:28] <LedStyle> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-10-20 04:56 /bin/sh -> dash
[08:28] <Vaske_Car> I was reading something that they changed to manage services
[08:28] <AqD> hi all!
[08:28] <AqD> anyone here use my mac menubar?
[08:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: do you have much experience with it?
[08:28] <kevinmiller> Well, it's already set up for the mac.
[08:28] <JoseStefan> aardfox, on gui you can double click an sh file (if it is marked as executable)
[08:29] <kevinmiller> No, not really.  lol
[08:29] <sladen> duncanm: can you file a bug report while we're working on this  (python-mx... cannot be removed)  and include the error messages
[08:29] <AqD> i just came to see if any of you have some comments? :)
[08:29] <AqD> eww
[08:29] <LedStyle> Whats wrong with bash?
[08:29] <aardfox> Synaptec package manager comes up then, and does nothing : (
[08:29] <duncanm> sladen: sure, is it to bugzilla.ubuntu.org?
[08:29] <kevinmiller> I'm eager to learn.  Cant I set it up to work on both my mac, and when I boot into Linux, on that too?
[08:29] <AqD> with edgy released i wont need to maintain the 2.8 patch i guess
[08:29] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller:  okay, I'm not thinging verry clearly right now, but I can try to help you
[08:29] <bitwiseshiftleft> LedStyle: I'm guessing that dash is smaller and therefore loads faster
[08:29] <AqD> kevinmiller: my mac menubar?
[08:29] <duncanm> launchpad, fonud it
[08:29] <kevinmiller> I appreciate it. :)
[08:30] <kevinmiller> Mac menubar?
[08:30] <AqD> ah
[08:30] <LedStyle> bitwiseshiftleft, but bash is much more usual i think
[08:30] <AqD> i replied to wrong ppl? :D
[08:30] <AqD> heh
[08:30] <Rav|strangler> 17 mins left of Distribution Upgrade
[08:30] <LedStyle> isnt?
[08:30] <AqD> all right, anyway the howto is here => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[08:30] <Rav|strangler> w00t
[08:30] <AqD> for those who interest in
[08:30] <bitwiseshiftleft> LedStyle: I know, and it's on Dapper too... just guessing at why the put dash in edgy
[08:30] <AqD> both of gnome and xfce applets are there
[08:30] <sladen> duncanm: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/egenix-mx-base/+filebug
[08:30] <AqD> and gtk2 patch
[08:31] <ChrisNiemy> aardfox: maybe you have type in a terminal "chmod a+x filename"  or make a desktop-starter by right clicking on the deskop -> create starter (or so), select the file and check at "run in terminal"
[08:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: the router dosen't need to be set up for either OS, it's more about getting it to recognize the connecting trying to be established..... maybe it's a problem with the Linux client, but I haven't had any experience with setting up wireless
[08:31] <JoseStefan> LedStyle, script specify what they require bash / dash / sh   sh has been mapped to something "newer" for a while now
[08:31] <AqD> hm i should post to osnews instead
[08:31] <AqD> later guys ;)
[08:31] <JoseStefan> scripts*
[08:31] <AkumAPRIME> yeah.. so I put this code that the faq tells me to into the terminal. It says, " After unpacking 30 meg..." Do you want to continue Y/n?
[08:31] <kevinmiller> Yeah, my mac just scans and sees it.
[08:31] <AkumAPRIME> I type y, it aborts
[08:31] <JoseStefan> aardfox, that shouldnt happen
[08:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: yeah
[08:31] <kevinmiller> I never had to set it up
[08:31] <JoseStefan> aardfox, what are you trying to run?
[08:31] <AkumAPRIME> I type yes, it aborts, Yes, it aborts, Y, it aborts... any idea why?
[08:31] <thybo> my wireless works fine what is the problem?
[08:31] <kevinmiller> I enter in all the info, and Ubuntu wont do anything
[08:31] <shadok> sladen: got one error cat: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf not found :)
[08:32] <pyth> hello, when I'm doing an upgrade in edgy I get this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28613/
[08:32] <pyth> how can I solve that?
[08:32] <kevinmiller> It's frustrating, because I wanna try out and learn about Linux, but I cant get my internet up.
[08:32] <thybo> lol
[08:32] <AkumAPRIME> what card kevinmiller?
[08:32] <thybo> kevin is it wireless?
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Also, it's like, after I get one thing going, there is another issue.
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Card?
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Yeah, wireles
[08:32] <Zer0Ry0k0> kevinmiller: do you have the option of using a cable for a few hours?
[08:32] <aardfox> a crossover install sh
[08:32] <AkumAPRIME> what type?
[08:32] <sladen> JoseStefan: /bin/sh is a pure POSIX shell now (no extensions)---if you have stuff with bashisms, change your sscripts to use 'bash' with  '#!/bin/bash'
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Nope.
[08:32] <Zer0Ry0k0> k
[08:32] <bitwiseshiftleft> kevinmiller: what kind of mac do you have?
[08:32] <aardfox> did you not see my private message?
[08:32] <LedStyle> pyth, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:32] <kevinmiller> Intel
[08:32] <kevinmiller> new
[08:33] <JoseStefan> pyth, you can try solving that in synaptic, the apt way to do it is install each package one by one
[08:33] <pyth> LedStyle: gives me the same error
[08:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> he's not having trouble with the mac getting online  =P
[08:33] <duncanm> sladen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/egenix-mx-base/+bug/68544
[08:33] <shadok> sladen: mdadm is already installed
[08:33] <sladen> shadok: I think that is a warning, rather than an error---unless you know that you have an md/raid setup
[08:33] <sladen> duncanm: brilliant!
[08:33] <JoseStefan> pyth, or try aptitude instead of apt
[08:33] <LedStyle> pyth, why dont u download the Edgy CD and update? Just put on drive and choose the option on the window will appear
[08:33] <bitwiseshiftleft> kevinmiller: modprobe new_wlan_scan_sta ?
[08:33] <shadok> sladen: no i haven't but that is the only error i get, i tried with nosplash and quiet
[08:33] <kevinmiller> My hope is to later, if I can get it working right, have a Dual-boot Mac OS X and Ubuntu
[08:33] <duncanm> sladen: in the mean time, is there anything i can do to get rid of these packages?
[08:34] <aardfox> Josestefan i made a shortcut to it and now it opens a terminal window that closes within a second or so
[08:34] <shadok> sladen: older kernels didn't work, doing nothing, last line : booting kernel...
[08:34] <pyth> LedStyle: that's not a solution for me ;)
[08:34] <AkumAPRIME> bitwiseshiftleft: if it's not found, whats that mean?
[08:34] <smax> help me! I downloaded DVD image by jigdo I downloaded to step 2 so it's stop's and after this I see 3 tabs ( 3 steps of downloading) what I should to do?
[08:34] <narma> Is it possible to install ubuntu and some applications wich are not into tha installatin CD, without internet ?
[08:34] <pyth> I'll try it manually
[08:34] <JoseStefan> aardfox, i dont understand what you are trying to do
[08:35] <LedStyle> Does GRUB goot mac osx86 partition?
[08:35] <aardfox> the script should install Crossover
[08:35] <LedStyle> goot no... boot
[08:35] <bitwiseshiftleft> AkumAPRIME: oh right, you need to apt-get some stuff... http://bin-false.org/?p=17 has more details
[08:35] <smax> narma. Yes you can install from dvd or from your hard drive
[08:35] <kevinmiller> Got ya, Akumprime, it wont let me pm you back.
[08:35] <JoseStefan> pyth, try installing ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <kevinmiller> lol
[08:35] <kevinmiller> I'm new to IRC so bare with me.
[08:35] <aardfox> josestefan, but instead of using a .deb i guess they got lazy and decided to go with sh
[08:35] <sladen> duncanm: did you get my private /query ?
[08:35] <kevinmiller> :)
[08:35] <Mazon> just tried edgy eft yesterday - had some irritating issues: unable to change refreshrate to 100Hz, despite _hand editing_ the xorg.conf I added the correct horz/vert sync but then I could only choose between 80 and 81Hz
[08:35] <umTTumT> hi all
[08:35] <frederick85> Is anybody finished their edgy download yet
[08:35] <narma> smax, I can't use DVD only CD
[08:36] <Zer0Ry0k0> Has anyone been able to get Dual Screen to work with an nVidia card?  Not Twin View
[08:36] <Zer0Ry0k0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut?highlight=%28nvidiatv%29
[08:36] <duncanm> sladen: yeah
[08:36] <aardfox> frederick85, i did a while ago
[08:36] <JoseStefan> aardfox, what program are you trying to run?
[08:36] <umTTumT> -ping
[08:36] <umTTumT> -showcommands
[08:36] <frederick85> if I install edgy ontop of 6.06 will beryl still be on there
[08:36] <aardfox> josestefan, a crossover installation .sh
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> After unpacking 30.4MB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? Y
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> Abort.
[08:36] <AkumAPRIME> Can anyone explain that please? why is it aborting, I'm saying yes, y, Y, Yes
[08:36] <narma> smax, how can I install from hard disk ? is possible to build a .deb repository?
[08:36] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, im using 2 monitors. Is this u want?
[08:36] <elmargol> someone knows a webbased torrent client? (not mldonkey)
[08:36] <smax> narma. Yes.
[08:37] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: yeah, I want to have 2 X desktops
[08:37] <narma> smax, ok but how ?
[08:37] <JoseStefan> aardfox, did you try: bash filename.sh ?
[08:37] <aardfox> frederick85, yes, but i've been having problems with beryl ever since i installed
[08:37] <frederick85> elmargol: give ctorrent a try
[08:37] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, its easy... just a min
[08:37] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: I don't want the one desktop to span across the two screens
[08:37] <bitwiseshiftleft> AkumAPRIME: not a clue.
[08:37] <aardfox> frederick85, installed edgy that is
[08:37] <frederick85> aardfox: what kind of problems
[08:37] <AkumAPRIME> /sigh, cool thanx
[08:37] <elmargol> mldonkeys torrent support really sucks :(
[08:37] <zennix_> hey all
[08:37] <zennix_> i have a problem
[08:37] <shadok> sladen: strange I have the file /etc/mdadm/mdam.conf :/
[08:37] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, sorry... cant uderstand... can u explain better?
[08:38] <frederick85> aardfox: maybe some configuration files got overwritten?
[08:38] <aardfox> josestefan, it said it couldn't find the file
[08:38] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, poor english plz... hehe
[08:38] <zennix_> my system wont see the swap space how do i get it to load it up automatically
[08:38] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, You want 2 difrerente desktops all right? Not clone!
[08:38] <shadok> sladen: do you think that problem is kernel related ? if so i'm gonna compile it
[08:38] <JoseStefan> aardfox, you have to replace the example with your file
[08:38] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: yeah
[08:38] <smax> narma You should have installed package dpkg-dev or dpkg-utils ( i don't remember) on every ubuntu forum there are a lotof informatinon about this I'm not at home or ask here how to make lockal repository
[08:38] <smax> help me! I downloaded DVD image by jigdo I downloaded to step 2 so it's stop's and after this I see 3 tabs ( 3 steps of downloading) what I should to do?
[08:38] <elmargol> frederick85: ctorrent has a webinterface?
[08:38] <JoseStefan> aardfox, bash _____
[08:38] <aardfox> frederick85, possibly. What's been happening is beryl's been booting me out to the login screen, eating up my memory, and being a pest
[08:38] <fuoco> i upgraded to edgy and bcm43xx stopped working, i can't connect to my AP
[08:38] <frederick85> zennix_: change /etc/fstab
[08:38] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (please make a backup first)
[08:39] <sladen> shadok: no, it's probably not kernel related.
[08:39] <shadok> erf :/
[08:39] <narma> thank you smax :)
[08:39] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: yeah, it's open and copied
[08:39] <zennix_> ok ill see what i can do thanks
[08:39] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, find the section "Device"
[08:39] <sladen> shadok: is that the *only* message you see during a boot up without the splash and quiet parameters, what happens if you select (recovery mode)
[08:39] <LedStyle> Before the "EndSection" put this 3 lines:
[08:39] <aardfox> josestefan, i did bash myfile.sh . i guess i'll have to include the file destination.
[08:39] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0,         Option          "TwinView" "True"
[08:39] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle:  okay, got it
[08:39] <LedStyle>         Option          "UseEdidFreqs" "1"
[08:39] <LedStyle>         Option          "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1024x768"
[08:39] <frederick85> zeenix_: i can give you what my /etc/fstab looks like for the swap if you want
[08:39] <LedStyle> But change the "metamodes" for the resolutions u want
[08:40] <shadok> sladen: i'm checking the logs, booting noppix takes a long time, I'll try that if i can't find anything
[08:40] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, its the 1st and 2nd monitor
[08:40] <zennix_> i can see the swap is not there
[08:40] <JoseStefan> aardfox, the program may require sudo, but that may change your system, for good or bad
[08:40] <frederick85> zeenix_: /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw                      0       0
[08:40] <zennix_> i knwo where it is
[08:40] <smax> who can help me finish downloadind DVD from jigdo???
[08:40] <zennix_> but i dont kwo what the line shoudl say apart from the location
[08:40] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, and its just. Worked to me...
[08:40] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle:  but that is going to make it be the same desktop.... have you used this to watch movies and browse the internet?
[08:41] <zennix_> yeah paste me the swap line in a pm
[08:41] <aardfox> josestefan, YAY. I didn't know you could drag files into the terminal to put in their paths. I retried the bash with that technique and it worked
[08:41] <bluefox83> smax, just restart the download
[08:41] <barnetod> Flannel :)
[08:41] <barnetod> thanks man
[08:41] <aardfox> josestefan, thanks man
[08:41] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, of course! Im looking this xchat windows in the right monitor and browsing internet in the left monitor.
[08:41] <JoseStefan> aardfox, ok
[08:41] <smax> blufox83 tempate size is 670 mb it's 2 time
[08:41] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: okay okay, I'll give it a try, the way the guy that wrote the guide made it sound like it wouldn't work well
[08:41] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[08:41] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, Its a single big desktop, but if you use a Gnome player (GTK) you can put in full screen
[08:41] <zircx> gotta say, edgy is very nice..
[08:42] <sladen> shadok: you should be able to see on the screen and look at the last thing that you see
[08:42] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, and the full screen take only 1 monitor
[08:42] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, and a hint>
[08:42] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: okay, cool
[08:42] <bluefox83> smax, you didn't happen to download it twice did you?
[08:42] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, create another Gnome-panel to the second monitor.
[08:42] <sladen> JoseStefan: beryl shouldn't, it can be started once X is running (IIRC)
[08:42] <james296> what is the name of the file that the Add New Programs application is under, I lost it
[08:42] <shadok> sladen: in "normal" mode with nosplash and quiet argument mdadm message was the last one, i'll check in recovery mode too, thx for your help :)
[08:43] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, so the application will be showed only in one or other "window list" on gnome-panel.
[08:43] <bluefox83> james296, synaptic
[08:43] <smax> bluefox83 I restart it's stop on this stage again
[08:43] <sladen> shadok: yeah, remove the 'quiet' option
[08:43] <james296> no the SIMPLE installer
[08:43] <bluefox83> smax, and you say it's twice the size it should be?
[08:43] <shadok> sladen: ok
[08:43] <james296> from the Applications menu
[08:43] <zircx> ok, java stilll bugs out on stigmachat which is annoying.. but shit happens.. other than that.. I have all the required plugins installed and i even installed the nvidia drivers which work perfectly
[08:43] <niksavel> hey all
[08:44] <zircx> the next thing  is to get me some glitz and glamour..
[08:44] <RancidLM> hey all i have a laptop and a main system when ever i use xdmcp login with my laptop it works but after about 15min it freezes up and nothing responds not even keys.. can some one help me resolve this problem.?
[08:44] <smax> bluefox. It's stops on the same point
[08:44] <zircx> does gnome have applets as good as kde, i can't even remember what the hoarding resourced program was but it looked nice..
[08:45] <james296> well?
[08:45] <JoseStefan> sladen, ??
[08:45] <bluefox83> smax, could be finished
[08:45] <niksavel> ahem...  if anyone has any device....   I have recently upgraded from dapper to edgy in kubuntu...  I have had some progs left behind to be upgraded and did them one by one, I am left with libarts1-audiofile which has unmet dependancies
[08:45] <sladen> JoseStefan: just running something with 'sudo' doesn't normally solve problems! :)
[08:45] <niksavel> lol..   device=advice
[08:45] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: I think I understand what you are saying, but when I finish doing this I'm sure I will get it
[08:46] <JoseStefan> sladen, that was a reply to somone who wanted to install a program provided as .sh
[08:46] <shadok> sladen: ah it seems it froze on detecting the videocard :) i'll reboot in the next minutes to verify that :) Oct 27 07:28:02 user kernel: [17400380.764000]  agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode
[08:46] <LedStyle> Zer0Ry0k0, get what?
[08:46] <markdarb> niksavel: how have you been upgrading them?
[08:46] <Zer0Ry0k0> LedStyle: the gnome window thing
[08:46] <shadok> shadok is upstairs :p
[08:46] <momal> help someone????? need to know how to upgrade to edgy via dapper... seems dist-upgrade broke everything | it seems to be wanting something with libuim3 but trying to install that says it wants to overwrite a file in another .deb file
[08:46] <lib8264q> hello channel can someone tell me teh command for starting the gnome desktop
[08:47] <sladen> shadok: bingo!
[08:47] <shadok> ah no, how to force a reinstall of a package with aptitude
[08:47] <Zer0Ry0k0> lib8264q: startx
[08:47] <shadok> sladen: it seems :D
[08:47] <niksavel> markdarb: I have done apt-get install for every single name that was left behind...  it was a load of python things, azureus, mplayer and this
[08:47] <JoseStefan> !info libarts1-audiofile edgy
[08:47] <RancidLM> is there a way to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06?
[08:47] <ubotu> libarts1-audiofile: audiofile plugin for aRts. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:47] <lib8264q> ok tried that xrog crashing out .... back to command
[08:47] <lib8264q> ?
[08:47] <JoseStefan> niksavel, make sure you have the universe repo
[08:47] <niksavel> I do
[08:48] <shadok> erf "reinstall" ^^
[08:48] <spunk_> Anyone who knows gcc? I'm a bit confused whether gcc can compile for several target archictectures. If so, why are there special "cross compiler" packages of gcc?
[08:48] <overrider> can ubuntu yet be installed on intel mac`s?
[08:48] <shadok> i was looking for a "force" arg :p
[08:48] <zircx> does anyone know whether the xgl and compiz are still supported packages for installing the glamour stuff for the desktop?
[08:48] <markdarb> niksavel: That's about all I could have said too
[08:48] <yakumo> help trouble using qdvdauthor, when i try to create dvd error mssg appear, err: can't parse video... pls help
[08:48] <sladen> shadok: sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename,  or   sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[08:48] <james296> so what is it called?
[08:48] <shadok> ty sladen
[08:48] <markdarb> niksavel: unless it might be in the multiverse?
[08:49] <niksavel> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe
[08:49] <zircx> or should I say the instructions, I know the last time I tried to install that stuff, there were a few dependency files that weren't available anymore
[08:49] <sladen> james296: what is 'it' ?
[08:49] <niksavel> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse
[08:49] <niksavel> these are both in my sources.list
[08:49] <james296> I already asked before, the Add/Remove Applications application
[08:49] <james296> the SIMPLE one
[08:49] <james296> I asked already, and no one responded
[08:49] <niksavel> is it possible that the mirror has holes?
[08:49] <JoseStefan> niksavel, look for the pkg info @ http://packages.ubuntu.com/libarts1-audiofile   and see what dependencies you are missing
[08:49] <lib8264q> ok iv donme a fresh install of  ubuntu back to command  line ... when i type startx to start ubuntu desktop xorgs crashing  back to command line ... ??????
[08:50] <zircx> james just ask again man.. instead of having a hissy fit lol
[08:50] <lib8264q> any advice
[08:50] <james296> I just did
[08:50] <james296> but this is annoying me
[08:50] <barnetod> man a wireless install on ubuntu is a nightmare lol
[08:50] <barnetod> was hard enough getting partitions right :)
[08:50] <AlienX> james296, just be patient. If someone can help you, they most likely will
[08:50] <james296> so whats the answer then? whats that program actually called in Synaptic?
[08:51] <zircx> James the simple add/remove installer?
[08:51] <james296> yeah
[08:51] <zircx>  apt-get? synaptic
[08:51] <AlienX> james296, synaptic is the program in synaptic. It is the front-end to apt-get
[08:51] <james296> the one normally in the Applications menu...
[08:52] <cainlevy> anyone have a good handle on lvm that could help me figure something out?
[08:52] <tiglionabbit> cainlevy: sure
[08:52] <tiglionabbit> I've used it a little
[08:52] <AlienX> cainlevy, just ask your question :)
[08:52] <shadok> gotta go to bed, thx alot sladen, i'll inform you later today or tomorrow of the status of my problem :)
[08:52] <niksavel> it goes down to the dependancy need for kdemultimedia-dev which cannot be installed because of conflict with libmpeg-dev
[08:52] <james296> so whats the file called I need to install it using Synaptic
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> james296: what, to get the add/remove programs entry?
[08:53] <james296> yeah
[08:53] <cainlevy> righto. :) ok, so i'm using lvm (surprise!), but i can't resize the volume groups. i'm getting conflicting information about where the volume groups are ... lvdisplay indicates that they're all in /dev/lvm/*, but /etc/fstab shows them in /dev/mapper/lvm-*.
[08:53] <james296> the app
[08:53] <bluefox83> ok...gnome art manager keeps crashing when i try to download artwork and it wont let me directly install..the option is greyed out..whats up with that?
[08:53] <zircx> james, its called the gnome-app-installer
[08:53] <cainlevy> so, for instance, /dev/lvm/home and /dev/mapper/lvm-home
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> I was just about to say that
[08:53] <james296> thank you
[08:53] <JoseStefan> niksavel, you will need to CHECK if you can remove libmpeg-dev, so you can install the other one
[08:54] <cainlevy> actually listing the contents of those directories reveals nothing in /dev/lvm, but everything i expect in /dev/mapper
[08:54] <Zer0Ry0k0>  lib8264q: try startx -v
[08:54] <zircx> james, I right clicked on the main  menu bar then went to properties and checked the properties of add/remove option and it gave me the name of the program, very simple thing to do buddy
[08:54] <overrider> does anyone know if the new ubuntu can easily be installed on an intel mac?
[08:54] <Zer0Ry0k0>  lib8264q:  and see what it has trouble with
[08:54] <Adriano> anybody got to compile successfully gaim beta4?
[08:54] <cainlevy> and running lvextend on either location fails, each with different error messages
[08:54] <bluefox83> overrider, no reason why it shouldn't
[08:55] <niksavel> JoseStefan: HOW for the love of god???  :)
[08:55] <cainlevy> i've got the whole thing in a forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285632
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> er sorry I gotta go
[08:55] <JoseStefan> niksavel, use synaptic, try to remove it and it will complain if it is needed for something else. If it does complain dont remove it
[08:55] <sladen> shadok: thanks
[08:56] <zircx> ok, I'm going to try and install xgl and compiz
[08:56] <zircx> get me some fllashy moving thingies on my desktop
[08:57] <Zer0Ry0k0>  lib8264q: sorry, I was on the phone
[08:57] <niksavel> JoseStefan: it wasnt even installed
[08:59] <JoseStefan> niksavel, try sudo apt-get install  kdemultimedia-dev
[08:59] <Engx> i have upgrade to edgy but xorg won't work?
[09:00] <boink> try it
[09:00] <boink> in theory, it should work
[09:00] <boink> but who knows ...
[09:00] <niksavel>  kdemultimedia-dev: Depends: kdelibs4-dev
[09:01] <Engx> how can i fix it?
[09:01] <JoseStefan> niksavel, follow the food chain, try installing that one
[09:01] <shadok> sladen: HAHA GOT IT :D (i could'nt go to bed with this problem on mind)
[09:01] <boink> dpkg -reconfigure or something like that
[09:01] <JoseStefan> niksavel, or try installing the pkg in synaptic, as it is smarter
[09:01] <cainlevy> can anyone help me with an lvm issue? i've detailed it in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285632
[09:02] <sladen> shadok: suceeded?
[09:02] <barnetod> hey i know this is a noob q but what is cvs?
[09:02] <shadok> sladen: i found out, without quiet I saw it was blocking on ohci usb, i unplugged usb devices (a mouse and a hub) and it boots flawlessly :)
[09:02] <niksavel> okay
[09:02] <niksavel> strange...  libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060815 is to be installed
[09:02] <shadok> yes it works like a charm, just i can't boot with usb devices plugged
[09:02] <shadok> (maybe my MS mouse ^^)
[09:03] <niksavel> I have older version in repos?
[09:03] <bmgz> EDGY IS AWESOME! I can't beleive how quickly GDM appears - I had to rub my eyes!
[09:03] <JoseStefan> niksavel, mixed repos maybe
[09:04] <bmgz> However I didn't get a graphical boot screen?
[09:04] <sladen> shadok: okay, can you file a bug report, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+filebug  "system fails to boot with mouse/hub inserted, ohci_usb)
[09:04] <phire> Just a question, is it possible to use grub to boot a edgy cd image off the hdd?
[09:04] <shadok> sladen: sure :)
[09:04] <frederick85> When I upgrade to edgy will it overwrite my AIGLX Config
[09:04] <sladen> niksavel: do you have non-Ubuntu repos enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list (eg. for xgl?)
[09:04] <GeorgeDutch> How do i skin ubuntu to look like another OS?
[09:05] <boink> skin ?
[09:05] <chemaja> boink, theme
[09:05] <swamptu> i have a quick question...........i'm folling a how-to guide......if it says 'uname -r' so i substitute my login name for uname ??
[09:05] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: install a theme
[09:05] <GeorgeDutch> make it look like another OS
[09:05] <GeorgeDutch> how?
[09:05] <boink> change the theme?
[09:05] <boink> it's in the gnome admin menu
[09:05] <GeorgeDutch> yeah well how
[09:05] <dam_ned> swamptu: no, take it literaly
[09:05] <Adriano> swamptu: uname is a command
[09:05] <sladen> swamptu: uname -r   prints the release of the currently running kernel.  no
[09:05] <swamptu> thank yous
[09:05] <sladen> swamptu: just as it is
[09:05] <Engx> i have upgrade to edgy but xorg won't work?
[09:06] <sladen> Engx: how does Xorg "not work" ?
[09:06] <GeorgeDutch> the gnome admin menu
[09:06] <niksavel> sladen: just deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt kubuntu main , but I am using de.archive... mirror for the repos if that means anything
[09:06] <GeorgeDutch> i am new to linux
[09:06] <GeorgeDutch> ??
[09:06] <shredder> I had to do 'apt-get install xorg-server', because the upgraded xorg packages were "held back", after that xorg started to work for me.
[09:06] <frederick85> GeorgeDutch: System, preferences
[09:06] <Engx> i can use gui
[09:06] <dam_ned> GeorgeDutch: system -> preferences -> theme
[09:06] <shadok> sladen: do I have to give others details ? (motherboard maybe...)
[09:06] <JoseStefan> niksavel, stick to the official repos only, until you finish the upgrade
[09:06] <JoseStefan> i gtg
[09:07] <dam_ned> shredder: did you do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:07] <GeorgeDutch> thanks
[09:07] <shredder> yes
[09:07] <Engx> sladen: i can't enter GUI
[09:07] <sladen> niksavel: try  sudo apt-get remove  libglu1-mesa-dev  for the moment
[09:07] <sladen> niksavel: or  sudo apt-get install  xserver-xorg
[09:07] <bmgz> I don't get a graphical boot screen during init?
[09:08] <sladen> bmgz: what CPU type do you have?
[09:08] <bmgz> k7
[09:08] <bmgz> athlon-xp
[09:08] <dam_ned> while we're on it, is there anyone that can confirm bug #67196 ?
[09:08] <shredder> yes that wa sit xserver-xorg, I was just mistyping from memory.
[09:08] <dam_ned> I think sladen didn't have time yet to chek it ;)
[09:09] <dam_ned> +c
[09:09] <phire> Just a question, is it possible to use grub to boot a edgy cd image off the hdd?
[09:09] <bmgz> sladen: i am using stock i386 kernel at the mo, got an athlon xp
[09:09] <zoyd> hi
[09:09] <sladen> Engx: do you get any error messages?
[09:09] <sladen> shadok: the right people may ask you for details
[09:09] <AkumAPRIME> akumaprime@Daemon:~$ apt-get install deskbar-applet
[09:09] <AkumAPRIME> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:09] <AkumAPRIME> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[09:09] <shadok> sladen: fine :)
[09:10] <heikki> use sudo
[09:10] <boink> AkumAPRIME: use sudo
[09:10] <KenSentMe> AkumAPRIME: use sudo apt-get ..
[09:10] <sladen> AkumAPRIME: sudo apt-get install ...
[09:10] <spunk_> Anyone who knows gcc? I'm a bit confused whether gcc can compile for several target archictectures. If so, why are there special "cross compiler" packages of gcc?
[09:10] <AkumAPRIME> lol, ty all
[09:10] <heikki> :)
[09:10] <zoyd> i'm looking for a Config::Record pm debian package ... any unofficial sources
[09:10] <boink> zoyd: man apt-cache
[09:10] <firebird619> Could someone help me out? I just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy and now when I start the PC it says failed to load module i810. My graphics card is built-in (Intel). What can I do?
[09:10] <zoyd> boink: did that
[09:10] <niksavel> sladen: 1. nothing changed, 2. xserver already newest version ...  it also reported
[09:10] <GeorgeDutch> Where do i get the boink them for ubuntu?
[09:10] <boink> then look for backports on google
[09:10] <sladen> spunk_: yes and no.  generally there is a package to generate the cross-compiler.  Some already exist;  eg. cross compiling for win32
[09:11] <Karark> where do i get mplayer for edgy?
[09:11] <sladen> firebird619: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810
[09:11] <KenSentMe> !info mplayer
[09:11] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[09:11] <spunk_> sladen, ok. so, the default gcc is not enough then?
[09:11] <GeorgeDutch> !info vlc
[09:11] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[09:11] <boink> Karark: you need the right /etc/apt/sources.list for mplayer and all of codecs
[09:11] <sladen> firebird619: though if 'ubuntu-desktop' is installed, it should have automatically
[09:11] <pibarnas> How can I install mp3, wma, mp4 and so on support, on Edgy Eft?
[09:12] <GeorgeDutch> vlc is better than mplayer uboto!!
[09:12] <niksavel> !info upgradetoengyscrewed
[09:12] <ubotu> Package upgradetoengyscrewed does not exist in any distro I know
[09:12] <KenSentMe> !mp3 | pibarnas
[09:12] <ubotu> pibarnas: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:12] <Karark> boink, i have all enabled and mplayer isn't showing... did update also
[09:12] <sladen> spunk_: the default 'gcc' only compiles for i386 on Linux.  To install every combination would be *alot* of space
[09:12] <boink> Karark: you need the right /etc/apt/sources.list for mplayer and all of codecs
[09:12] <boink> do I have to repeat myself yet again?
[09:12] <spunk_> sladen, ok. thanks!
[09:12] <fluxinator> !info upgradetoedgyscrewed
[09:12] <ubotu> Package upgradetoedgyscrewed does not exist in any distro I know
[09:12] <GeorgeDutch> where can i get more themes for gnome?
[09:12] <leftjustified> I've not seen any mention of this anywhere and I'm new to linux... /me prepares to be flamed... Upgrading to edgy shouldn't hose my /home/username/ dir, should it?
[09:12] <firebird619> sladen: I upgraded by having Dapper booted and inserting the Edgy CD I downloaded and then using Synaptic to update. It was running ok until I rebooted.
[09:12] <sladen> spunk_: what are you wanting to cross compile to?
[09:13] <KenSentMe> !themes | GeorgeDutch
[09:13] <ubotu> GeorgeDutch: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:13] <momal> How do i get eth0 to goto dchp via console???
[09:13] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: it's best to make a backup before updating
[09:13] <sladen> firebird619: do you have a custom xorg.conf ?
[09:13] <sladen> firebird619: try   sudo dpkg-reconfigre -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:13] <leftjustified> KenSentMe: *sigh*.. thanks, shame I don't have room to back up 20GB :-/
[09:13] <spunk_> sladen, mips.
[09:13] <firebird619> sladen: not that I am aware of. I haven't changed it at all.
[09:14] <phire> momal: dhclient eth0
[09:14] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: well, normally it wont hurt to just upgrade
[09:14] <sladen> spunk_: can you build one to match your requirements
[09:14] <spunk_> sladen, dunno. :-)
[09:14] <sladen> spunk_: you can build one to match your requirements
[09:14] <Engx> sladen: thx i fix it by (apt-get install xserver-xorg) :D
[09:15] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: it worked for me, but if you want to be sure, you can make a backup. Maybe you can skip the big files and only backup dirs that start with a .
[09:15] <sladen> Engx: ah, perhaps you don't have 'ubuntu-desktop';  do  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <spunk_> sladen, ok. I hoped to find a ready packet bu to no avail...
[09:15] <elfstone> does aynone have 6.10 EE and legacy nvidia video card?
[09:15] <sladen> spunk_: often you'll get an SDK with the development board and that will have a pre-built compile
[09:16] <Engx> sladen: problem is fixed thanks
[09:16] <sladen> Engx: brillant
[09:16] <spunk_> sladen, Ok. I'll investigate further. Thanks for your help!
[09:16] <sladen> firebird619: you still don't have X?
[09:17] <elfstone> i have a problem with legacy nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.10
[09:17] <sladen> firebird619: can you   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg  and ensure that you have X installed
[09:17] <babo> I'm saving a word document in .odt file type.
[09:17] <firebird619> sladen: I am just going to try that command you gave me now, the screen was black for a while, had to wait. The exact thing it says now that I have it running is Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0) No Drivers available.
[09:17] <E_Presly> elfstone: I do
[09:17] <babo> Is that compatible with windows ?
[09:18] <GeorgeDutch> Does itunes run on ubuntu?
[09:18] <dam_ned> babo: if you install openoffice.org on windows it is
[09:18] <leftjustified> KenSentMe: aah! good avice, thanks :)
[09:18] <leftjustified> advice*
[09:18] <elfstone> E_Presly: im asking because I have a problem with nvidia-glx-legacy drivers
[09:18] <`paul> ive recently installed apache php4 mysql but php files wont load on localhost/~homefolder but it works fine when i put it directly unde /var/www what seems to ba the problem?
[09:18] <babo> dam_ned: how can I save a doc in windows/word format ?
[09:19] <dam_ned> GeorgeDutch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats (search for itunes)
[09:19] <elfstone> E_Presly: when i type glxinfo it says that glx is not loaded or something like that
[09:19] <shadok> sladen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/68550
[09:19] <dam_ned> babo: select a different format in the save as dialog
[09:19] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: I believe you can run the Windows iTunes under 'wine'.  Or grab 'ltunes'
[09:19] <babo> dam_ned: which format ?
[09:19] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: or just use a Linux-based music player!
[09:19] <dam_ned> babo: .doc
[09:19] <shadok> sladen: I'll be more precise after a sleep , i'm already late :) have a good day/night :)
[09:19] <elfstone> E_Presly: i installed the nvidia-glx-legacy, and changed the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[09:19] <boink> is ltunes a linux based thing for itunes?
[09:20] <sladen> babo: File->Save As->'.doc'
[09:20] <bawnpa> `paul
[09:20] <frederick85> boink: amarok
[09:20] <AkumAPRIME> man, automatix made my life a Thousand times better
[09:20] <C-O-L-T> can I make a rollback from edgy to dapper?
[09:20] <frederick85> boink: gtkpod I think too
[09:20] <boink> COLT: no
[09:21] <E_Presly> elfstone: Oh I see, gears doesnt work for me but it did on dapper, thats all I know, sorry.
[09:21] <rowanjl> Just wondering where people not from Europe and the USA are supposed to get Ubuntu CDs... anyone here from Australia?
[09:21] <`paul> yes? @bawnpa
[09:21] <niksavel> HOW is this possible I get a conflict with a program that isn't even installed???  libmpeg-dev is a conflict when I want to install kdemultimedia-dev
[09:21] <frederick85> rowanjl: i'm from Australia
[09:21] <boink> Rowanjl: shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <elfstone> E_Presly: on dapper it was working but i upgraded to edgy and it doesnt
[09:21] <rowanjl> boink: no, thats for the old version
[09:21] <AkumAPRIME> can you DL and burn stuff in Australia? whatre you in the dreamtime?
[09:22] <foof00> anyone need help?
[09:22] <firebird619> sladen: now it won't even let me login. When I type the password and press enter, it beeps and takes away the login part and goes back to a screen where the last thing says Reloading Postfix configuration.
[09:22] <boink> shipit will only give out dapper for the near future
[09:22] <bawnpa> `paul is this with apache2 or apache 1.3
[09:22] <frederick85> rowanjI: just download
[09:22] <boink> it's LTS, that's why
[09:22] <Karark> ok, found a edgy customization guide on forum and ubuntu-multimedia-gnome with aptitude is giving me a score of -1
[09:22] <`paul> 2
[09:22] <`paul> bawnpa: apache 2
[09:22] <mnepton> foof00: i need lots. but i doubt you have advanced degrees in psychiatry.
[09:22] <rowanjl> I could down load it, but at 3Kb/s, its bound to take several weeks...
[09:22] <foof00> mnepton, emacs therapist
[09:22] <AkumAPRIME> wowow...
[09:22] <GeorgeDutch> wow this is unbelievable the microsoft site thinks that my edgy eft is xp pro werd :O
[09:22] <niksavel> somebody please help
[09:22] <sladen> firebird619: try a different console (Alt-F2)
[09:23] <firebird619> sladen: I haven't entered that command you gave me yet, haven't been able to login to do it.
[09:23] <boink> rowanjl: then wait a while when the servers are less loaded
[09:23] <E_Presly> elfstone: Yes this happend to me also. I searched the forums but I didnt find any help.
[09:23] <sladen> firebird619: has the cursor gone off the bottom of the screen
[09:23] <mnepton> rowanjl: you can get Dapper from ShipIt, or use a torrent or something for Edgy.
[09:23] <rowanjl> boink: thats MY connection speed
[09:23] <niksavel> help me obi-linuxguy, you're my only hope
[09:23] <boink> I see .. your local ubuntu user group then?
[09:23] <bawnpa> what is the full path to the php files in the home folder?
[09:23] <frederick85> is there somewhere I can look at all the edgy packages names and see why they are superior over the old ones
[09:23] <`paul> /home/myfolder/public_html
[09:23] <GeorgeDutch> How do i run and .exe on ubuntu?
[09:24] <elfstone> E_Presly: thats not good, i thought that edgy will be more better tha dapper and first thing and I have a major problem and i dont know how to solve it
[09:24] <`paul> bawnpa: /home/myfolder/public_html
[09:24] <rowanjl> boink: perhaps, but I don't know of any, sort of why I came here :)
[09:24] <GeorgeDutch> i want to install internet explorer 7
[09:24] <bawnpa> can you view files other than php or not at all?
[09:24] <frederick85> GeorgeDutch: hahahaha
[09:24] <GeorgeDutch> can i do that
[09:24] <AlienX> frederick85, i guess you could do a diff on two lists if you have them
[09:24] <boink> rowanjl: your local ubuntu user group would be more help, just join the list and ask :)
[09:24] <foof00> uk.archive.ubuntu.com is the fastest right now
[09:24] <JamesMccloud> GeorgeDutch: try WINE?
[09:24] <fuoco> anyone using bcm43xx with edgy ?
[09:24] <capgadget> Why IE7?  Your nuts.  only way maybe is vmware and install XP in vmware.
[09:24] <momal> Can someone tell me how do I remove everything from my system expect the bear minimun then how to reinstall all edgy stuff for kubuntu-desktop ???
[09:24] <`paul> bawnpa: i created a symbolic link in /var/www but it wont work
[09:24] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, .exe is for windows
[09:24] <foof00> try changing your apt sources
[09:24] <boink> you know, Ossies are a friendly bunch
[09:24] <mnepton> frederick85: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[09:24] <GeorgeDutch> how does wine work?
[09:24] <rowanjl> what list?
[09:24] <`paul> bawnpa: well i can see the folders and files
[09:24] <JamesMccloud> its basically an emulator, but not. :/
[09:24] <niksavel> pppahllleeease help me, I'm almost done updating to edgy, I just have this one file that is killing my inned child
[09:24] <capgadget> Wine can't do XP maybe IE6
[09:25] <boink> look under mailling lists on www.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <AlienX> momal, you want to format the drive?
[09:25] <`paul> bawnpa: wait ill try to create a plain html file
[09:25] <GeorgeDutch> oh
[09:25] <capgadget> Not yet at least.
[09:25] <mnepton> GeorgeDutch: why run crappy Windows software on lovely Ubuntu? it's like buying a mansion and then wallpapering the place with old copies of Hustler.
[09:25] <foof00> capgadget, wine doesnt do "XP"
[09:25] <firebird619> sladen: yes it had. I restarted the system now and along with the screen that says Failed to start the X Server it also has the login part below, but no cursor to type anything. Nexter to where it says login it has * Reloading Postfix configuration.
[09:25] <dam_ned> rowanjl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam
[09:25] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, it makes programs think it's running windows.
[09:25] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, uses all the APIs for windows
[09:25] <rowanjl> dam_ned: thanks
[09:25] <dxdemetriou> when I make update from the beta version to the final, it will becomes stable? or it is better to make the upgrade from Dapper?
[09:25] <momal> AlienX: No i tried to update from dapper to edgy but it wont update so I want to remove all the stuff but the bare minimum because i have data on the drive then reinstall edgy stuff
[09:26] <sladen> firebird619: and what happens if you just type anyway, or switch to another virtual terminal
[09:26] <`paul> bawnpa: i can see text files but if php under my home folder it says
[09:26] <foof00> dxdemetriou, no one ever knows -- all upgrades are indeterminant
[09:26] <AlienX> momal, is your /home directory a seperate partition from your root directory?
[09:26] <firebird619> sladen: its ok now, I switched consoles like you said and I can login now. I am going to try that command you gave me now.
[09:26] <capgadget> If you need IE7 that bad download vmware server for free at vmware.com you caninstall XP from your CD in vmware and run XP and ubuntu at the same time.  Just needs LOTS of mem
[09:26] <`paul> Warning: Unknown(/home/aldee/public_html/test.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[09:26] <`paul> Warning: (null)(): Failed opening '/home/aldee/public_html/test.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[09:26] <GeorgeDutch> Does fedora come with preconfigured xgl?
[09:26] <momal> AlienX: No
[09:26] <capgadget> This isn't fedora this is ubuntu
[09:26] <foof00> GeorgeDutch, dont think so
[09:26] <bawnpa> careful pasting, 2 lines isnt so bad but if you pate more later use the pastebin
[09:26] <boink> GeorgeDutch: ask on #fedora
[09:26] <dam_ned> rowanjl: you're welcome, you might also want to join #ubuntu-au
[09:26] <sladen> capgadget: there's a script somewhere that downloads IE7 and configures 'wine' to run IE
[09:26] <AlienX> momal, you'll be in a bit of a bind then. Did you read the topic on using apt to upgrade to edgy?
[09:26] <GeorgeDutch> i am just asking its all linux
[09:27] <capgadget> IE7 sladen?  I thought maybe IE6.
[09:27] <JamesMccloud> mnepton: speaking of wallpapering with hustler, can someone help me make a desktop link from /home/desktop to /usr/lib/program/downloads? i tried "create launcher", but it didnt quite work right.
[09:27] <AlienX> GeorgeDutch, could ask in #fedora
[09:27] <GeorgeDutch> wow really
[09:27] <GeorgeDutch> ok thanks
[09:27] <boink> likewise, you don't ask ubuntu questions on #fedore
[09:27] <GeorgeDutch> AlienX:
[09:27] <momal> AlienX: yup tried everything but seems what ever libuim3 is it has screwed it all up
[09:27] <dxdemetriou> foof00, I make the gksu "update-manager -c" and doesn't show me the upgrade. then I put the -d to works, but it says that is the beta version
[09:27] <capgadget> I think I got ie6 to run in crossover office.
[09:27] <foof00> capgadget, if you are already dual-booting windows, no need to reinstall to run it under vmware
[09:27] <AkumAPRIME> hey, is there a way to make Ubuntu change it's wall paper every Xunits of time?
[09:27] <foof00> use RAW disk mode
[09:27] <mnepton> JamesMccloud: what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:27] <Adriano> JamesMccloud: are they both folders?
[09:27] <capgadget> I don't want to take 10 minutes to boot XP.
[09:27] <sladen> JamesMccloud: ~/Desktop is special, that's where your Desktop lives
[09:27] <foof00> dxdemetriou, sudo aptitude update
[09:27] <JamesMccloud> Mnepton: i accidentally made my /home/ folder really, really tiny, and my /usr folder really really large
[09:27] <Chandu> Hi
[09:27] <capgadget> I want to run it in 10 seconds which vmware allows me too.  Just a few things.
[09:28] <sladen> JamesMccloud: you can create a symlink with    ln -s FROM TO
[09:28] <JamesMccloud> and i dont want to repartition. -.-
[09:28] <foof00> AkumAPRIME, yes -- cron job manually or some package i dont know the name of
[09:28] <capgadget> I keep w98se in vmware just to run an old webcam.
[09:28] <bawnpa> `paul, looks like a file permissions issue
[09:28] <sladen> JamesMccloud: eg.  ln -s /usr/lib/program/downloads ./foobar
[09:28] <Karark> ok, can someone give me an apt sources.list where i can DL mplayer?
[09:28] <AlienX> momal, hmm, I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm in the process of doing a dist-upgrade to my system so i don't know what the end result will be until I'm through with it
[09:28] <AkumAPRIME> ty foofoo
[09:28] <Adriano> JamesMccloud: It's usually enough to drag n'drop with Control and Alt pressed
[09:28] <capgadget> Or the yahoo video crap that doesn't want to run on linux in ffx
[09:28] <`paul> bawnpa: ill try to restart my apache2 wait
[09:28] <kinga> Hi there, this should be trivial... How do I mount a floppy from terminal to copy a file? mount /dev/floppy does not seem to work.. :(
[09:28] <jordan> With apt-get autoremove now in edgy, is there any reason to still use aptitude?
[09:28] <Adriano> to create a link to a folder
[09:28] <GeorgeDutch> will Feisty Fog come with preconfigured xgl?
[09:28] <dxdemetriou> foof00, I have done that, and it is the same
[09:28] <firebird619> sladen: I entered that command and it saidxserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file: backup in /etc/X11/xorg.cof.20061027022708. What should I do now, restart. It is back at the prompt where I can enter commands, etc.
[09:28] <boink> Feisty Fawn, it will be called :)
[09:28] <GeorgeDutch> oh
[09:28] <GeorgeDutch> sorry
[09:29] <AlienX> Karark, check in multiuniverse. I think it's in there though I could be wrong
[09:29] <foof00> dxdemetriou, is this dapper?
[09:29] <sladen> GeorgeDutch: feisty will likely have AIGLX, we'll see
[09:29] <mnepton> JamesMccloud: JamesMccloud: look into resize2fs
[09:29] <GeorgeDutch> wow really zomg
[09:29] <mnepton> ooops
[09:29] <boink> and feisty doesn't officially exist either
[09:29] <GeorgeDutch> that would rawk
[09:29] <dxdemetriou> foof00, yes
[09:29] <foof00> dxdemetriou, you want to upgrade to edgy?
[09:29] <dxdemetriou> foof00, yes
[09:29] <Karark> AlienX, i have enabled all repos and even added seveas.imbrandon (something i found on ubuntuforums) and nothing has it
[09:30] <sladen> firebird619: try  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:30] <AlienX> Karark, hmm, did you try plf?
[09:30] <foof00> dxdemetriou, sudo sed -i 's/dapper/edgy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgade && aptitude dist-upgade
[09:30] <Karark> AlienX, no... will search it now
[09:30] <GeorgeDutch> Am i still allowed to ask question in here about ubuntu when i am on xp pro?
[09:30] <KenSentMe> Karark: have you run sudo apt-get update after youe updated your sources.list?
[09:30] <Karark> KenSentMe, yes i have
[09:30] <mnepton> Karark: what kernel do you have? 386? 686? k7?
[09:30] <dxdemetriou> foof00, I had this problem from breezy to dapper for days, and I made the -d command there
[09:30] <sladen> foof00: dist-upgrade
[09:30] <Atomiku> I'm using this tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies to install ubuntu without using cdrom, netinstall etc... I've got GRUB bootloader onto floppy and ive got a spare hard drive on the downstairs computer all ready to partition with acronis. But im a little stuck...
[09:30] <ndlovu> is there some way to resume a download with Firefox, or should I use some other download app?
[09:30] <Karark> mnepton, generic
[09:31] <firebird619> sladen: brought me back to the screen that says Failed to start the X server
[09:31] <foof00> dxdemetriou, run the command i gave you
[09:31] <fuoco> does gcjwebplugin work in edgy ?
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> GeorgeDutch: Yes, but it may be more difficult to help you through something if you can't try things people suggest.
[09:31] <Atomiku> ive made 2 ext3 paritions, a 800mb one for the iso to go in, and one for ubuntu to be installed in
[09:31] <LedStyle> Why i cant copy files bigger than 4GB to a FAT partition?
[09:31] <mnepton> Karark: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:31] <foof00> ndlovu, wget -c http://my.com/file
[09:31] <Atomiku> How should I copy the contents inside the iso to this spare ext3 partition?
[09:31] <boink> FAT32 can only take files of 2gb
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> LedStyle: That's a limitation of the FAT32 filesystem.
[09:31] <boink> that's why microsoft doesn't use it anymore.
[09:32] <LedStyle> So how can i copy a DVD iso?
[09:32] <Karark> mnepton, E: Package mozilla-mplayer has no installation candidate
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> boink: FAT32's limit is 4, FAT16's limit was 2.
[09:32] <ndlovu> foof00, thanks - if the download times out will it resume if I use the same command again?
[09:32] <boink> don't use FAT32 :_
[09:32] <mnepton> LedStyle: reformat that fat32 to ext3 and then use the ext3 driver for Windows.
[09:32] <boink> tony: ta
[09:32] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:32] <foof00> ndlovu, yup
[09:32] <JamesMccloud> Sladen: just tried the command you told me to. it seemed to take it okay, and i double-checked my spelling, but nothing appeared after hitting F5, which i assume is refresh.
[09:32] <LedStyle> mnepton, were can i find this driver fpr ext3?
[09:32] <ndlovu> foof00, great!
[09:32] <mnepton> LedStyle: http://fs-driver.sf.net
[09:32] <sladen> JamesMccloud: ls -l ~/WHATEVERYOUCALLEDIT
[09:32] <foof00> ndlovu, you writinga script to pound the download servers?
[09:33] <LedStyle> mnepton, tks
[09:33] <Atomiku> ive got two paritions on a hard drive, how can I copy the contents of the ubuntu iso into one of the paritions, then load up the installer from the hard drive via GRUB?
[09:33] <LedStyle> mnepton, error 404
[09:33] <mnepton> Karark: so the package exists, it seems you just have some apt woes.
[09:33] <ndlovu> foof00, it'll be more manual than that, but I'm anticipating that it won't work first time...
[09:33] <foof00> Atomiku, why not burn it to CD?
[09:33] <mnepton> LedStyle: http://fs-driver.org
[09:33] <mnepton> LedStyle: sorry
[09:33] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:33] <Atomiku> foof00: because I cant :P
[09:34] <foof00> Atomiku, no cd?
[09:34] <LedStyle> mnepton, but its showind ext2 driver. Isnt a problema?
[09:34] <Karark> mnepton, that package is not listed in synaptic either... so i dont think it does exist
[09:34] <LedStyle> mnepton, or its just the journaling?
[09:34] <Atomiku> foof00: plus my old computer wont boot CDs
[09:34] <foof00> Atomiku, the disc is in a certain format, not sure how to make the ISO boot from grub or if it is even possible
[09:34] <Atomiku> yeah
[09:34] <Atomiku> theres a tutorial but
[09:34] <Atomiku> im doing it a little bit different
[09:34] <Atomiku> instead of using a small floppy linux distro im using a spare windows PC
[09:34] <foof00> Atomiku, link?
[09:35] <Atomiku> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[09:35] <foof00> Atomiku, you want to install Ubuntu from Linux?
[09:35] <foof00> i mean from within Windows?
[09:35] <Atomiku> foof00: well...
[09:35] <osske> xubuntu works nice ;)
[09:35] <Atomiku> i just want to install linux without using cdrom or net install
[09:35] <osske> thanks ubuntuteam.
[09:35] <AkumAPRIME> how do I kill a process. It's locked on me, it must die
[09:35] <momal> can anyone tell me how to get the output from apt-get into a file so i can get a copy of the errors
[09:35] <RockClimber> hello, 2 quick questions, is the install CD also a live CD? secondly can you burn a CD iso to a DVD (I don't have any CD-Rs around)?
[09:35] <Atomiku> but im doin gis copying the install ISO to a hard drive, then boot the install ISO from the harddrive with GRUB
[09:36] <osske> RockClimber, yes its also a liveCD, yes you can burn a CD-image into a DVD.
[09:36] <Atomiku> im just a little stuck because I dont know how to copy the iso over or what file system to partition the hard drive to
[09:36] <Atomiku> im assuming EXT3
[09:36] <Terminus> AkumAPRIME: kill -9 $pid or killall -9 $app_name
[09:36] <Atomiku> oh nvm,
[09:36] <Atomiku> lemme take a shot at this
[09:36] <Karark> can someone confirm that mplayer or mozilla-mplayer is still in the repos?
[09:36] <Atomiku> ill do some hardcore googling
[09:36] <Atomiku> cya
[09:36] <Terminus> AkumAPRIME: if that doesn't take care of it, it's a zombie and you have to reboot to get rid of it.
[09:36] <elfstone> Karark: yes it is
[09:37] <foof00> Karark, aptitude install gmplayer
[09:37] <RockClimber> ooske, thanks (twice)
[09:37] <AkumAPRIME> ty Terminus
[09:37] <elfstone> Karark: if you mean the edgy eft repos of course :)
[09:37] <mezga0153> hi, anybody knows why i'm getting /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator" in my .xsession-errors after i upgraded to edgy?
[09:37] <mezga0153> If I try to run gnome-session manually i get this error: (nautilus:4978): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Unable do determine the address of the message bus
[09:37] <Karark> elfstone, i do mean edgy and i am having so much trouble getting multimedia up
[09:37] <Terminus> AkumAPRIME: you're welcome.
[09:37] <duncanm> is compiz part of edgy?
[09:37] <mezga0153> tried apt-get remove dbus --purge && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but it didnt help :(
[09:37] <foof00> Karark, enable your universe/multiverse
[09:37] <Karark> foof00, they are
[09:37] <Xaphoo> I wish xchat had true transparency
[09:37] <duncanm> i don't really want beryl, i just want the default thing from edgy
[09:37] <foof00> Karark, did you update?
[09:37] <Karark> foof00, yes
[09:38] <olaef> anyone else running xubuntu? :)
[09:38] <foof00> Karark, let me ssh into yer box ,,, this is frustating!  it should work
[09:38] <elfstone> Karark: youll succed in a matter of time, but the hardcore is getting the geforce 2 Ti accelation :P
[09:38] <Xaphoo> have there been any updates today?
[09:38] <dxdemetriou> foof00, it says E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[09:38] <Xaphoo> I haven't gotten any
[09:38] <foof00> Xaphoo, use XGL+compiz
[09:38] <Karark> foof00, sorry but no
[09:38] <foof00> dxdemetriou, sudo rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[09:38] <Xaphoo> foof00, I am using it, but xchat doesn't have true transparency the way the terminal does
[09:39] <lazzareth> Gday, How do i go about sending a file to my phone via bluetooth? The most i can do right now is activate the 'Remote Control"
[09:39] <olaef> what is XGL and compiz?
[09:39] <olaef> two different things?
[09:39] <Xaphoo> I have beryl running nicely
[09:39] <Roberto> hello :)
[09:39] <Xaphoo> speeds up the computer
[09:39] <foof00> lazzareth, you want btftp
[09:39] <lazzareth> Ill got right ahead and install that then
[09:39] <dxdemetriou> foof00, the same
[09:39] <Xaphoo> have there been any updates today?
[09:40] <Xaphoo> I've gotten nothing and I am wondering if my sources.list is ok
[09:40] <lazzareth> foof00 not in the ubuntu repo's?
[09:40] <Xaphoo> or whatever else
[09:40] <Karark> foof00, it seems that update-manager borked my sources.list and took out multiverse... got it now
[09:40] <foof00> lazzareth, aptitude install obexftp
[09:40] <lazzareth> ok
[09:40] <Karark> though universe was still there
[09:40] <Terminus> olaef: XGL is X with openGL. compiz is the window manager.
[09:40] <lazzareth> foof00 Ok downloading
[09:41] <olaef> Terminus, ok . thanks. and what is beryl? :o
[09:41] <Xaphoo> compiz is old though, beryl is the version that is being worked on
[09:41] <Terminus> olaef: beryl is a fork of compiz.
[09:41] <olaef> alrighy.
[09:41] <Terminus> olaef: everybody seems to be using beryl more than compiz nowadays. =)
[09:41] <dxdemetriou> foof00, maybe the repos I have to not updated? I tried the cy.archive.. and the global
[09:41] <olaef> so, will a nice configuration of XGL make my windowmanager run more smooth?
[09:41] <Xaphoo> installing beryl was completely painless for me
[09:41] <wiz> How can I make a module load on boot?
[09:42] <printk> yes beryl is nice
[09:42] <Xaphoo> it was easy with edgy + nvidia beta... no configuration necessary, just the installation of some packages
[09:42] <Terminus> olaef: it'll give you all the 3D coolness
[09:42] <rausb0> wiz: edit /etc/modules
[09:42] <tabias> I just download et (the game). Then I've put the file in a dir (chmod 777). Then I open console, go to the dir of the file. Type: et-linux-2.60.x86.run and then the console tells me the command is not found
[09:42] <printk> and I like running beryl with Gnome, because gnome-terminal gets true transparency with a compiz wm
[09:42] <JamesMccloud> Sladen: i figured it out. the default name for the desktop folder is "Desktop", i was typing in "desktop"
[09:42] <Terminus> tabias: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:42] <Xaphoo> printk me too, I love the terminal
[09:42] <Xaphoo> I wish xchat had true transparency that way
[09:42] <olaef> will XGL take more advantage out of my gfx-card, what probably X isnt doing right now.
[09:42] <olaef> ?
[09:42] <printk> tabias: throw a "./" infront of it
[09:43] <liwi> hi. how to update to 6.10 by cd-rom?
[09:43] <rausb0> tabias: type: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:43] <Xaphoo> but it just has that background-redrawing trick, like the gnome-terminal has without edgy
[09:43] <Terminus> olaef: yes, it'll take advantage of your gfx card
[09:43] <tabias> beu, now it is saying permission denied
[09:43] <Xaphoo> olaef, yes...
[09:43] <olaef> sounds interesting.
[09:43] <Xaphoo> olaef: beryl makes my desktop run *faster* because it takes advantage of the graphics card instead of cpu
[09:43] <wiz> thanks rausb0
[09:43] <rausb0> tabias: chmod 755 et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:43] <Terminus> tabias: try chmod 0755 $foo; ./$foo
[09:44] <Xaphoo> olaef: I used this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851&highlight=beryl  ... it's good if you have an nvidia card
[09:44] <tabias> tnx, did the trick
[09:44] <olaef> thank you Xaphoo.
[09:44] <olaef> will look at it.
[09:44] <printk> olaef: also search for "BerylOnEdgy" at wiki.ubuntu.com for a good guide
[09:44] <beu> tabias, :o
[09:44] <Terminus> anybody running beryl on a geforce2? will that work?
[09:44] <beu> okay?
[09:44] <Xaphoo> it's really easy, it takes just a couple minutes to isntall if you use those repos
[09:44] <beu> :)
[09:44] <olaef> will I be able running XGL and beryl on my Geforce 2 MX 400 :D
[09:45] <olaef> 32mbyte ram.
[09:45] <Xaphoo> no idea :)
[09:45] <Xaphoo> I woudl think so though
[09:45] <olaef> well. its nvidia though :)
[09:45] <olaef> yeap.
[09:45] <Terminus> olaef: we have the same gfx card, except i have 64mb. =)
[09:45] <Xaphoo> I mean it's not all that intense compared to any 3d game
[09:45] <Xaphoo> all it's rendering is a cube and some transparency and blur
[09:46] <olaef> ok
[09:46] <dxdemetriou> Maybe I'll try with the -d to the command for upgrade. nothing else works here :(
[09:46] <JamesMccloud> #ubuntu: so long, and thanks for all the fish. now im off to google to take fishing lessons. :)
[09:46] <tabias> great, now the game seems to be installed, now the game is not running :@
[09:46] <Karark> What happened to the 'Disks' program? Or what is a GUI disk mounting prog?
[09:46] <aardfox> This is interesting... randomly my active window, whether it be firefox or a file browser will close
[09:46] <aardfox> I'm not liking edgy eft so far
[09:46] <liwi> how to update to 6.10 by cd-rom?
[09:46] <bawnpa> gparted ?
[09:47] <Karark> bawnpa, ah i think that was it, thanks
[09:47] <aardfox> Edgy Eft is the name of the new ubuntu update right?
[09:47] <bawnpa> not sure what you mean but probably :)
[09:48] <olaef> but hey, beryl is just a window manager, just like gnome and KDE?
[09:48] <olaef> but suited for XGL.
[09:48] <Terminus> olaef: gnome and kde are DEs. beryl is like metacity.
[09:48] <TheFuzzball> what is going to be the next Kubuntu after Edgy?
[09:48] <printk> gnome and KDE aren't wm.  gnome uses metacity and kde uses.. i forget, kwin?  Basically beryl just replaces the wm
[09:48] <printk> the whole enivornment together is gnome or KDE
[09:49] <olaef> ok
[09:49] <skiss666> hello
[09:49] <blazemonger> hello folks
[09:49] <blazemonger> finally edgy is out
[09:49] <olaef> icewm is more like a WM.
[09:49] <foof00> liwi, put in cdrom, then run the cdrom-upgrade script o something like that
[09:49] <tabias> enemy territory doesn't have the right fps (although I installed the nvidia drivers succesfully). It seems that it isn't using the opengl drivers
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[09:50] <rausb0> tabias: is GL working at all? did you check with glxinfo?
[09:50] <Terminus> !ops
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[09:50] <numist> he's gone
[09:50] <Terminus> bah...
[09:50] <numist> hehe
[09:50] <Terminus> sorry ops. missed it.
[09:50] <_azrael> What package can convert svg to eps?
[09:50] <numist> if you look closely, an op got him
[09:51] <timhaughton> I've done a new install of Edgy - I'm trying to add the multimedia support. I'm following the W32 guide, but it can't find any candidates for W32Codecs. Anyone know what's wrong?
[09:51] <Xaphoo> I'm getting this error when I do anythign with apt: http://pastebin.ca/224177  Can someone help?
[09:51] <foof00> _azrael, scribus?
[09:51] <foof00> timhaughton, you need to wgte those and install manually
[09:52] <tabias> the glxinfo is telling me all sorts of stuff. Don't really can confirm if it is the right stuff or not
[09:52] <_azrael> foof00:Acquiring, any special guidelines on use, or is it self-explanatory?
[09:52] <Terminus> numist: yeah, and i was way behind. >_<
[09:52] <numist> no worries
[09:52] <rausb0> tabias: first line of glxinfo should say "direct rendering: yes"
[09:52] <foof00> _azrael, not sure if it even works -- might work
[09:53] <tabias> so it does
[09:53] <shadok> sladen: I just replied to you on launch pad, 'later :)
[09:53] <eva> hello i am useing grip and i would like to know how to change the destination foler when i rip anyone kows how to do
[09:53] <Terminus> tabias: try glxgears. if it shows you gears, it's working
[09:53] <dxdemetriou> It's only me that the gksu "update-manager -c" don't show for upgrade?
[09:53] <rausb0> tabias: then i don't know. i don't use 3rd party software on my box. only stuff from the official repositories.
[09:54] <tabias> it is showing me gears (but crappy onces)
[09:54] <Terminus> timhaughton: try using Seveas' edgy repos
[09:54] <foof00> _azrael, yup it is easy
[09:54] <foof00> _azrael, use import then export
[09:54] <Terminus> timhaughton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:54] <foof00> _azrael, svg toeps
[09:54] <timhaughton> Terminus: OK thanks.
[09:55] <olaef> difference between aiglx and xgl?
[09:55] <Terminus> timhaughton: you're welcome
[09:55] <ziabice> re all
[09:55] <dxdemetriou> I started the upgrade with gksu "update-manager -c -d" and I hope to be ok :(
[09:55] <Terminus> olaef: aiglx is indirect gl developed by RH. xgl is b novell.
[09:55] <timhaughton> Oh crumbs. I'm trying to get my encrypted (dmcrypt) disk back. /dev/mapper isn't there. Help :)
[09:55] <olaef> Ok.
[09:55] <foof00> timhaughton, muahhaa
[09:56] <foof00> timhaughton, the problems of encrypted file systems!
[09:56] <Terminus> olaef: aiglx is supposed to be the better way of doing it but is nowhere near as useable as XGL as of the moment.
[09:56] <dshot> XGL is a bit of a hog
[09:57] <eva> anyone useing grip here
[09:57] <dshot> or at least I found it to be
[09:57] <foof00> Terminus, yeah and the GNU microkernel was supposed to be the right way, still waiting on that... heh
[09:57] <phire> dshot: A bit?
[09:57] <_azrael> foof00: Thanks. I wish there was a command line mode so I could use it in the script, but this will work.
[09:57] <dshot> =P
[09:57] <foof00> _azrael, there is
[09:57] <E_Presly> Hey, Im buying a new usb mouse, a simple one just 2 buttons and a scrollweel, does anyone know how to find out if it works in ubuntu?
[09:57] <Terminus> foof00: just mentioning what i know. or i think i know. =D
[09:57] <john> join #ubuntu-cn
[09:57] <Rock_Star> why is my firefox using 80% of my cpu?? i only have like 6 tabs opend
[09:57] <Rock_Star>  is opera better on using less CPU?
[09:58] <mnepton> E_Presly: any 3-button mouse with wheel should "just work"
[09:58] <Terminus> E_Presly: well, i've got a logitech here that works fine. =)
[09:58] <foof00> _azrael, if not easy to do -- probably could whip up some gimp scripts
[09:58] <dshot> E_Presly: I have an 8-button mouse that works wonderfully, so you should be perfectly fine =P
[09:58] <dxdemetriou> Can anybody tell me, the update-manager what other do except to change the sources.list?
[09:58] <foof00> Rock_Star, do you want ads?
[09:58] <foof00> Rock_Star, are you on myspace by any chance?
[09:58] <Terminus> foof00: opera doesn't have ads anymore.
[09:59] <mnepton> the Trackman Marble has been my preferred pointing device for like 10 years. if anyone cares.
[09:59] <rausb0> E_Presly: all usb mice i have tested so far worked fine. usb hid protocol is a standard, and hopefully all usb mice comply to that.
[09:59] <Rock_Star> foof00, ads?? no im not on my space
[09:59] <foof00> myspace is w3c compatible :-)
[09:59] <_azrael> foof00: Not worth that much of your time. I'm just writing a script that generates visual representations of data structures. It outpus to svg, but some other people want eps
[09:59] <Arhane> mm
[09:59] <Terminus> Rock_Star: well, opera does seem to be lighter but firefox deals with bad webpages better. =)
[09:59] <dshot> I enjoy my Logitech MX518 + funcpad
[09:59] <foof00> _azrael, oh no, not my time -- yours!
[09:59] <Rock_Star> Terminus, okej :D
[09:59] <mnepton> Rock_Star: you could use w3m ;)
[09:59] <john> hello everyone
[09:59] <Terminus> Rock_Star: use the canonical repo if you want it. =)
[09:59] <DaGame> Hi, I'm trying to partition my hard disk with fdisk. However I have NO idea what "c   toggle the dos compatibility flag" does? I have searched the internet and not found a single defination :(
[09:59] <_azrael> foof00: Ah. :P Sorry.
[09:59] <john> bitch
[10:00] <rausb0> mnepton: w3m rocks
[10:00] <Terminus> Rock_Star: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[10:00] <john> hello everybitch
[10:00] <mnepton> john: any chance of you getting a maturity transplant?
[10:00] <Rock_Star> Terminus, cool
[10:00] <E_Presly> mnepton, Terminus, rausb0: Thanks!
[10:00] <eva> nikin thanks for the help yesterday i did make it at last
[10:01] <foof00> _azrael, inkscape has a command line mode
[10:01] <mnepton> E_Presly: you in the US?
[10:01] <john> i am sorry i typed the wrong word
[10:01] <Xaphoo> stupid seveas... 403 forbidden he tells me
[10:01] <_azrael> foof00: Thanks.
[10:01] <foof00> _azrael, inkscape -E
[10:01] <mnepton> Xaphoo: do not take Seveas' name in vain. Ubugtu gets pouty.
[10:01] <E_Presly> mnepton: No. Im in Sweden.
[10:02] <eva> anyone know how to set the folder in grip
[10:02] <olaef> Terminus, priv. message.
[10:02] <foof00> edgy updates should be done over bittorrent -- this is ridiculous!
[10:02] <Terminus> olaef: what?
[10:02] <olaef> see private message.
[10:02] <liwi> .hi. how to upgrade 6.06 to 6.10 with cdrom?
[10:02] <Xaphoo> lol :)
[10:02] <john> is here any chinese ???
[10:02] <Terminus> olaef: i haven't gotten anything from you. and PMs are not allowed for unregistered nicks.
[10:02] <foof00> liwi, see edgyupgrades
[10:02] <Noah0504> What's the proper way to set up bcm43x-fwcutter?
[10:02] <eva> anyone know how to set the downloadfolder in grip
[10:03] <olaef> Terminus, oh ok.
[10:03] <dshot> sudo apt-cdrom add
[10:03] <dshot> liwi
[10:03] <joona> Noah0504: http://joona.kuori.org/ubuntu-powerbook/
[10:03] <olaef> im not registered..
[10:03] <joona> Noah0504: check the airport extreme section
[10:03] <mnepton> E_Presly: these are really nice, and work perfectly with Ubuntu - http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/SE/SV,CRID=2150,CONTENTID=5145
[10:03] <kooldeep> eva: go on config -> encode -> encoder -> encoder file format , and put the folder at the beginning, e.g. ~/music/%A/%d/%n.%x
[10:04] <Noah0504> How do I find the firmware for my card?
[10:04] <liwi> it is not possible to upgrade using desktopcd? only alternate?
[10:04] <foof00> liwi, think you need alternate
[10:04] <Terminus> E_Presly: i have a logitche wheel mouse (M-BJ58) that works nice and fits what you want. i like it a lot. =)
[10:05] <foof00> liwi, just update your apt sources and let it go overnight
[10:05] <eva> kooldeep thanks i will try that
[10:05] <joona> Noah0504: check the url, its got all you need
[10:07] <wangxuan> Is anyone there?
[10:07] <Noah0504> joona: So I can use the same firmware provided on that page?
[10:07] <foof00> yes
[10:07] <E_Presly> mnepton: Haha is that sum alien? Looks cool though. Unfortunatly Im just buying from a local store and they only have 5 models.
[10:07] <joona> Noah0504: yep
[10:07] <joona> most likely
[10:07] <Danis> nu nichego sebe
[10:07] <techtium> I want to install Edgy with the CD But it says that "POint de montage incorect"
[10:07] <Danis> privet narod
[10:07] <Noah0504> joona: Good stuff.  Thanks.
[10:07] <joona> no prob
[10:07] <DaGame> Does anyone have any suggestions about partitioning regarding disk being mounted or not? Is it a bad idea to partition whilst mounted?
[10:08] <foof00> DaGame, i would say so :-)
[10:08] <foof00> DaGame, think about what you are doing!
[10:08] <aardfox> is it possible to set a hotkey to make the cursor dissapear?
[10:08] <liwi> i ran gksu "update-manager -c"  . it will take few minutes. thanks
[10:08] <foof00> aardfox, yes
[10:08] <ehird> Ubuntu survived the night
[10:08] <DaGame> foof00, I am thinking about it.. I can't see the bad though?
[10:08] <ehird> :D
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> hello what is the default color settings at the login window in edgy
[10:09] <tabias> after rebooting the game works fine only the displayrefresh keeps stuck @ 60hz which makes it unplayable for me. How do I change that?
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> ?
[10:09] <aardfox> foof00 how can i do that?
[10:09] <Admiral_Chicago> DaGame: yes, and i don't think you can change an active partition
[10:09] <foof00> aardfox, look at how xkill does it -- replace with a blank image
[10:09] <Adriano> C-O-L-T: very similar to the one in dapper
[10:09] <Adriano> a shade of pink
[10:09] <atlas95> hello, i got a multicolor screen when I press control+alt+F1, i must see a terminal(black screen)
[10:10] <atlas95> I have an ati x1600
[10:10] <atlas95> could you help me please
[10:10] <ehird> atlas95: that's a feature, not a bug
[10:10] <zircx> http://pastebin.com/814142 can someone tell me what this readout means, I'm not sure why it's failed to download..
[10:10] <ehird> :D
[10:10] <yakumo> help do i need to relpace my version of libc6 to install qdvdauthor depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> Adriano: but I need the background color code you know at Administration - Login Window - Background Color
[10:10] <foof00> atlas95, try a different vga mode
[10:10] <foof00> yakumo, dont do that!
[10:10] <atlas95> ehird: ?
[10:10] <zircx> maybe it's because i changed it from dapper to edgy ..
[10:10] <zircx> when I shouldn't have..
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> Adriano: I changed it and now I don't know the code and can not set to default
[10:11] <aardfox> foof00, there's no hide cursor option anywhere?
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: ctrl+alt+f* = terminal
[10:11] <rausb0> yakumo: you cannot mix debian and ubuntu packages
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> zircx: hold on let me read it
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: how to do this?
[10:11] <foof00> aardfox, well all i know is that xkill does it
[10:11] <foof00> aardfox, so it must be possible
[10:11] <zircx> oy
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: so i suggest you just don't press those keys
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: noo !!
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> rausb0: well you could but that is not advised at all
[10:11] <zircx> blah ok, sorry
[10:11] <aardfox> foof00 is xkill a command?
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: you don't understand, i want to have terminal!
[10:11] <rausb0> Admiral_Chicago: thats what i meant
[10:11] <joona> aardfox: yes
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: oh
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: i'm not newbie
[10:11] <atlas95> ehird: but terminal bug
[10:11] <ehird> atlas95: i was misunderstanding you :(
[10:11] <timalot> anyone using the snd_intel8x0 module for sound?
[10:11] <ehird> :P
[10:11] <yakumo> what the best way to install qdvdauthor without replacing my libc6?
[10:12] <atlas95> ehird: i think i have a graphic card problem, fglrx...
[10:12] <zircx> basically it's the beerkid link that I added to the source list as part of installing xgl and i changed the last part of the link to 'edgy' instead of 'dapper'
[10:12] <atlas95> or other..
[10:12] <aardfox> joona,foof00 since it's a command can i set a hotkey to turn it off and on?
[10:12] <atlas95> but i don't know what
[10:12] <rausb0> yakumo: install it from the official ubuntu repos
[10:12] <joona> aardfox: sure
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> zircx: give me a sec your page is taking forever. oh wait i timeout
[10:12] <joona> but it's not the thing you want to hide your cursor
[10:12] <aardfox> joona, how?
[10:13] <joona> no idea
[10:13] <zircx> paste bin, it's about as reliable as a holy sock when you're shoes are giving ya blisters..
[10:13] <aardfox> once i type xkill can i make it come back by typing xkill again?
[10:13] <atlas95> ehird: any solution ?
[10:13] <rohan> are there any known edgy problems ?! since everytime i use the kubuntu 6.10 live cd, i get a message on the desktop "Kdesktop: The protocol for thee file application died unexpectedly." and my desktop is completely blank, no install or examples icon either !
[10:14] <rohan> and, none of the vt's are working ! they are just displaying some wildly scrolling garble
[10:14] <rohan> some green blocks
[10:14] <ehird> guys, is it suicide to do basically "apt-get install kde-core" "apt-get remove gnome everything-to-do-with-gnome" and what should i use in place with everything to do with gnome? :p (this should remove apps too)
[10:14] <zircx> well I guess, because it's Edgy maybe I should be using synaptic to install xgl? and compiz...
[10:14] <Ironfrost> hi - I'm having trouble installing Edgy from my hard drive; iso-scan is telling me it can't find the install ISO. Can someone help me with this?
[10:14] <ehird> rohan: problems aren't unheard of
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> zircx: just PM me with all the output
[10:14] <Ironfrost> I guess that probably the iso has to be in a specific place
[10:14] <zircx> ok
[10:14] <Cale> What would be the simplest way to get reiser 4 filesystem support in edgy?
[10:14] <rohan> ehird: true
[10:15] <bmgz> Help! I upgraded from Dapper using update-manager , The only prolem is I get normal text mode boot and no usplash? I get perfect usplash when restarting/shutdown though?
[10:15] <rohan> but this scrolling vt problem is heard ?
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> rohan: yes the link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> err no
[10:15] <Ironfrost> or perhaps it is having problems mounting it, because when I try to mount it manually I get a "couldn't setup loop device" error
[10:15] <Cale> I know I could rebuild the kernel with patches, I'm just hoping that there's some simpler solution :)
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems
[10:15] <ehird> rohan: like the desktop No Root System that i got around by nuking my linux partition and making it again in the installer ;)
[10:15] <yakumo> k thnks
[10:15] <rohan> ehird: :D
[10:15] <foof00> aardfox, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man3/vga_showcursor.3.html
[10:15] <MatthewV> hey all... got a fresh install of edgy, run updates (couldnt find any) and f-spot is segfaulting... every time i try to start it
[10:16] <foof00> MatthewV, amd64?
[10:16] <MatthewV> foof00, no, i386 (P3)
[10:16] <foof00> MatthewV, strace fspot
[10:16] <ehird> messages are going fast and my question gets lost :x
[10:17] <okke> I am running Xubuntu (XFCE4 as WM), and have come this far, I have created session in, this file > /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop. What should the next file that xgl.desktop calls to (startxgl.sh) contain? If I am running XFCE4...
[10:17] <MatthewV> foof00, what part of it do you want? all of it pastebinned?
[10:17] <foof00> foof00, what is the last call before segfault?
[10:17] <bmgz> I get normal text mode boot and no usplash? I get perfect usplash when restarting/shutdown though? I am NOT running 64-bit cpu! (Athlon-xp)
[10:18] <DaGame> What is the best partitioning program to use?
[10:18] <foof00> DaGame, fdisk
[10:18] <foof00> DaGame, if you want GUI, gparted
[10:18] <MatthewV> foof00, would this be it? : futex(0xb78401c4, FUTEX_WAKE, 1
[10:18] <DaGame> man fdisk says it sux
[10:18] <foof00> maybe
[10:18] <Ademan_> why doesn't canonical start shipping computers with ubuntu preloaded?  Right now i'm pretty sure their business model involves taking massive losses on this whole paying for open source development thing
[10:18] <foof00> MatthewV, sounds like a threading problem
[10:18] <foof00> MatthewV, maybe a race condition
[10:19] <aardfox> foof00 i type if show == 2 in the terminal and when i run my game the ubuntu cursor still rides on top of the game's
[10:19] <foof00> foof00, no it is not a command
[10:19] <Jfrench> How do i change my FireFox Icon?
[10:19] <foof00> foof00, you would have to compile your own program to do it
[10:19] <Ademan_> bmgz: reinstall the usplash package, do you get an error "cannot find suitable theme for <insert resolution here>" or something like that?
[10:19] <MatthewV> foof00, when i reinstalled edgy i kept my /home partition intact, although i was running a fully updated edgy prior in installing, just had a few problems.. cause if i read up looks like *could* be some troubles accessing database
[10:19] <bmgz> Ademan_: nope
[10:20] <bmgz> Ademan_: i have reinstalled it already ;(
[10:20] <sladen> Ademan_: I think Canonical would prefer to get /other/ people to ship Ubuntu preloaded and pick up the support revenue
[10:20] <Ademan_> bmgz: well you could always double check that you have a sane /etc/usplash.conf and then run "sudo initramfs -u"
[10:20] <foof00> hrmm
[10:20] <sladen> Ademan_: yes, there has been alot of money gone into Ubuntu, Launchpad and the tools
[10:21] <C-O-L-T> how to get the dapper artwork. I think dapper had a better art
[10:21] <Ademan_> sladen: hrm, but they've got the power to bulk buy, and as we know from system76 its going to take real bulk buys to even MATCH the prices you can get on computers preloaded with windows
[10:21] <`paul> evrytime i issue mysql_connect() i get this Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /home/aldee/public_html/test.php on line 2 help pls
[10:21] <Nox_ville> hello ppl. k. i ndeed some networking help- ive got an ubuntu laptop the needs to connect to a wirless network.. ive tried !wireless but it doens't seem to work.
[10:21] <Mirro> Layout changer doesnt change shit ((( any ideas??
[10:21] <bmgz> Ademan_: i had a full /boot from all the old kernels that where their, so I removed them (all the old kernels) maybe that was the prob
[10:22] <mnepton> Ademan_: you think developing, certifying, and supporting our own hardware supply chain will be a big boost for profits? dude, you do NOT go toe-to-toe with Dell in this business. you lose.
[10:22] <foof00> `paul, mysql_real_connect()
[10:22] <Ademan_> mnepton: you're not going toe, you're undercutting their prices, maybe not immediately, but in the long run you should be able to undercut them significantly
[10:23] <Nox_ville> !gimp
[10:23] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[10:23] <Ademan_> then you win
[10:23] <Cale> Does anyone know whether a (potentially experimental) Ubuntu edgy package exists for Reiser 4 filesystem support?
[10:23] <bmgz> Ademan_: cheers /etc/usplash.conf  res looks a bit too high ;p
[10:23] <Nox_ville> Cale: no.. sorry, tho i think some ppl last night also needed 1..
[10:23] <foof00> Cale, that file system is dead
[10:24] <foof00> Cale, i mean ... its been hacked to bits
[10:24] <mnepton> Ademan_: the key word is "the long run." we don't want to hemmorhage money for 5 years until we can effectively compete with Dell. it makes no sense. our skill set as a company is software. we focus on our core skills.
[10:24] <Cale> foof00: could be, but I have a filesystem which I need access to :)
[10:24] <morpheus8> `paul: make sure you have the php4-mysql or similar package installed
[10:24] <foof00> Cale, you need a resifer4 module?
[10:24] <Cale> yeah
[10:24] <aardfox> foof00, is that python code?
[10:24] <Ademan_> mnepton: but as i said canonical is already taking massive losses, as far as i know they have no revinue up till now (unless some people bought support contracts that I don't know about)
[10:25] <foof00> `paul, use php5 and mysql5 if possible
[10:25] <Ademan_> pretend i spelled revenue correctly lol
[10:25] <Ekinoks> Hi
[10:25] <Cale> foof00: Well, either that or I'll just resign myself to compiling my own kernel, but I'd prefer to avoid that if possible
[10:25] <foof00> Ademan_, no one buys support?
[10:25] <mnepton> Ademan_: all i can say is that you cannot judge what profits have or have not been made. the company does not post financial results.
[10:25] <foof00> Cale, then compile the module then
[10:25] <foof00> aardfox, what code/
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: Do they plan to?
[10:26] <mnepton> tonyyarusso: no idea. not my call.
[10:26] <aardfox> foof00: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man3/vga_showcursor.3.html
[10:26] <aardfox> foof00: I seriously don't know what I
[10:26] <aardfox> am supposed to do with that
[10:26] <Nox_ville> i need some networking help- ive got an ubuntu laptop the needs to connect to a wirless network.. ive tried !wireless but it doens't seem to work.
[10:26] <mnepton> i *can* tell you that i am a senior staff member for Canoncial Support, and i am not even *close* to bored.
[10:26] <CarinArr> nox_ville, what type of wireless card?
[10:27] <Ademan_> mnepton: huh, alright then you win :-)
[10:27] <bmgz> Ademan_ : sorry just rebooted, no go ;( what was that you suggested about initram or something?
[10:27] <Ademan_> oh
[10:27] <Ademan_> your changes to /etc/usplash.conf don't take effect untill you run that command :-)
[10:27] <Nox_ville> CarinArr : internal wireless card on hp compaq nw8000..
[10:27] <Ademan_> sudo initramfs -u
[10:27] <bmgz> what was the command again
[10:27] <CarinArr> do you know what card it is?
[10:27] <bmgz> tcherers
[10:27] <CarinArr> intel one?
[10:27] <bmgz> tcheers
[10:28] <bmgz> t6600gt
[10:28] <Ademan_> good luck bmgz
[10:28] <bmgz> nv 6600gt
[10:28] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: checking in device manager now...
[10:28] <bmgz> can that command bork anything?
[10:28] <kelten> I just installed fresh copy of edgy, and first thing I did was follow the instructions from the wiki on installing nvidia drivers. I proceeded to restart X, and got an error saying X cant start.
[10:28] <dshot> mnepton: Sounds like a rewarding company, at least in its mission
[10:29] <mnepton> Ademan_: just because i work for the company doesn't mean i'm omniscient or that my opinions are somehow more worthy than yours (aor anyone else's). i'm a glorified monkey like everyone else. but i really see no advantage to Canonical getting into hardware.
[10:29] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: its a Atheros Communications AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[10:29] <mnepton> Nox_ville: that should be supported by the MadWiFi drivers
[10:29] <det> Nox_ville, madwifi supports that
[10:29] <overrider_> i have something like a usb wireless (umts) adapter, where you can put your simcard inside and then surf the internet. at least you can on windows. what do i have to do to get it to work on ubuntu, if at all?
[10:29] <det> I have the same card
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: While you're probably not quite the right contact for this question, you're the one that's here, so I hope you don't mind me asking even if you can't answer:  What's the thinking behind the price of support contracts?  While $250/yr probably makes sense for any sort of corporate deployment, why isn't there something more appropriate for the home user if they wished to purchase support?  (ie. Suse's $50)
[10:29] <kelten> Is there anyway to startup ubuntu without having X start?
[10:29] <Nox_ville> well what do i type to get onto a network called hpsetup?
[10:30] <Ademan_> mnepton: well, the fact that you guys seem to have support contracts kind of ruins my image that canonical is running on mark's excess money
[10:30] <bun-bun> !runlevels
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <bun-bun> !runlevel
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> kelten: Yeah, you can remove gdm from a runlevel, and boot into that level.
[10:30] <mnepton> Ademan_: *no* one in this world has "excess money." ;)
[10:30] <sacker> So im running Live cd to try and get my wireless card to work in laptop, I stopped the gdm and then when i try to restart it it says fail :-( any ideas?
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <kelten> How's that done?
[10:30] <bun-bun> kelten# look up run levels
[10:30] <Ademan_> mnepton: he payed his way into space... lol
[10:31] <Nox_ville> sacker: im also having WiFi problems... ppl are helping me 2 now...
[10:31] <LookTJ> How do i install opera?
[10:31] <CarinArr> nox_ville, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972&highlight=ar5212 that's a thread specially for that card
[10:31] <mnepton> tonyyarusso: that presupposes that Canonical's primary goal is selling contracts to the "ZOMG I CAN'T GET ON AOIL AND MY INTERNET MOUSE HAS A VIRUS!!!11!!" crowd
[10:31] <crimsun> LookTJ: enable the dapper-commercial repo, and install opera.
[10:31] <kelten> Well, I cant get ubuntu to startup to any terminal since it automatically tries to start X, then crashes.
[10:31] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: thanks.. ill check it out...
[10:31] <tristan> hello all, I have a trouble during the upgrade
[10:31] <lotusleaf> mnepton: once that crowd experiences ubuntu, the crowd will dwindle away forever
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: Solid point.
[10:31] <bun-bun> so is the edgy release any different from a fully patched edgy rc install?
[10:31] <sacker> nox_ville my wireless card is connected atm, and on the internet just welll its not doing be much good :-P
[10:32] <kelten> What are my options?
[10:32] <LookTJ> crimsun: i have edgy
[10:32] <Ademan_> mnepton: i thought the support contracts were like, businesses, but again i could have misread even more :-)
[10:32] <Nox_ville> sacker: ask det... he might know
[10:32] <crimsun> LookTJ: the repo is precisely identical.
[10:32] <bun-bun> kelten# google runlevels
[10:32] <tristan> it says I cannot install x11-common because /usr/X11R6/bin also belongs to xmgrace package
[10:32] <ehird> question for you guys
[10:32] <tristan> I have done sudo pat-get -f install but it is the same
[10:32] <crimsun> tristan: please uninstall xmgrace first, then resume dist-upgrading
[10:33] <ehird> in ubuntu/firefox, jpeg rendering shows the artifacts much more than windows/firefox did
[10:33] <LookTJ> i enabled all the repos
[10:33] <ehird> any ideas?
[10:33] <tristan> crimsun, done but same trouble
[10:33] <LookTJ> but when i do sudo apt-get install opera
[10:33] <tim167> hello, does anyone know how I prevent ubuntu Dapper from putting the screen to stand-by ? I tried xset s off, xset dpms etc... but it still turns off the monitor after a while
[10:33] <crimsun> tristan: did you --purge xmgrace?
[10:33] <olaef> anyone running xgl + beryl, configured in xubuntu?
[10:33] <lotusleaf> tim167: system->power management ?
[10:33] <crimsun> LookTJ: pastebin the output from ``apt-cache policy opera''
[10:33] <Ademan_> ehird: i can't imagine anything would be noticable, but if it is, its a libjpeg problem, not an ubuntu problem
[10:33] <eva> is all you who are helping here for free or are you working for ubuntu anyway a big thanks to you all
[10:34] <lotusleaf> tim167: system->preferences->power management ?
[10:34] <Mukunda> Anyone else having problems trying to boot the Edgy cd on a Core Duo laptop?
[10:34] <aardfox> Could anyone tell me how to use this code? I need to have the program it would create but I don't know how to create the program. http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man3/vga_showcursor.3.html
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> olaef: #ubuntu-xgl for that
[10:34] <tim167> powermanagement I tried, set everything to 'never', but it doesnt work
[10:34] <Ademan_> eva: most of us are just users who want to give back to the community that helped them get ubuntu up and running :-)
[10:34] <LookTJ> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28623/
[10:34] <tristan> crimsun, yes I've done it
[10:34] <tristan> I've done it with both apt-get and with aptitude
[10:34] <Sublimal-> Anyone who has managed to get their sound to work with a hda-intel card ?
[10:35] <ehird> Ademan_: alright, i just see the main artifact of jpegs (not the blocky thing, it's that weird colour splatter) in ubuntu while i never have in windows
[10:35] <crimsun> tristan: now ``sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[10:35] <ehird> maybe windows does some anti-aliasing tricks
[10:35] <Rondom> aardfox: looks like svgalib
[10:35] <crimsun> Sublimal-: there are known issues with HDA in 6.10.
[10:35] <Sublimal-> I cant get my Ati sb 450 azalia hda-intel card
[10:35] <Ademan_> ehird: prolly not, can you get screenshots of both? (screenshot in a lossless format of course, like png)
[10:35] <cci[RR] us> i am using dapper drake but i cannot upgrade to edgy eft. i tried "update-manager -c -d" but it tells me that ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so it cannot proceed.
[10:35] <aardfox> rondom: what is svgalib?
[10:35] <Ademan_> ehird cause i've never had that problem
[10:35] <Sublimal-> It doest work
[10:35] <LookTJ> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28625/
[10:35] <crimsun> Sublimal-: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[10:36] <erUSUL> cci[RR] us: install it
[10:36] <ehird> Ademan_: reluctant to shut down ubuntu right now because i've just got it working yesterday but i'll keep it in mind :)
[10:36] <erUSUL> cci[RR] us: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <cci[RR] us> the problem is, it will involve the installation of dapper drake packages, around 400+ of them.
[10:36] <crimsun> LookTJ: right, you don't have dapper-commercial enabled.
[10:36] <cci[RR] us> it's like installing dapper drake again before i can install edgy eft?
[10:36] <Mukunda> So there haven't been any other reports of the Edgy cd not working on core duo laptops?
[10:36] <cci[RR] us> which may invovle anpother 400
[10:37] <tristan> it says for example : libxdmcp6 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0); however:The version of x11-common on the system is 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[10:37] <timalot> gnome 2.16 in edgy dosent have much new stuff...whats firefox 2 and gaim 2 like? worth the upgrade
[10:37] <timalot> ?
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I just got a new desktop computer that has a built in speaker that so far has played system beeps and the little background music from the Win XP Home end-user setup screens (that I refused!); is it possible to play all sounds through that in Ubuntu do you think?
[10:37] <tristan> so it cannot configure libxdmcp6, xutils-dev and xutils
[10:37] <Rondom> aardfox: a library for graphics output on framebuffer
[10:37] <crimsun> LookTJ: ``echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" |sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera''
[10:37] <LookTJ> in terminal?
[10:37] <crimsun> LookTJ: yes
[10:38] <LookTJ> thanks for helping btw
[10:38] <|Bot|> hello - i try upgrade my ubuntu and i have small problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28624/
[10:38] <cci[RR] us> how do i check whether im on dapper drake or not
[10:38] <Sublimal-> crimsun: 0: Realtek ALC660
[10:38] <crimsun> tristan: did you execute the above command?
[10:38] <aardfox> Bah, I give up...I can play a game with two overlapping cursors I guess
[10:38] <crimsun> Sublimal-: I just recently backported support for that.
[10:38] <Ademan_> ehird: lol, well good luck with it all, you may be right and it just proves i don't have as sharp of an eye as you, i really don't know :-)
[10:39] <tristan> crimsun, yes and that is the answer... :(
[10:39] <Sublimal-> How can i fix this ?
[10:39] <crimsun> Sublimal-: you will need to wait for an errata kernel for Edgy (no ETA), or compile alsa-driver hg on your own.
[10:39] <ehird> Ademan_: I do have rather good eyes suprisingly ;)
[10:39] <Sublimal-> Ok, is there any guide how to do that ?
[10:39] <LookTJ> thanks again crimsun
[10:39] <LookTJ> :)
[10:39] <crimsun> LookTJ: np
[10:39] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: that guide you gave me is for installing a wireless network card... ive got it installed already, i just need help connecting to a network...
[10:39] <crimsun> Sublimal-: there are instructions in the Download section of alsa-project.org
[10:40] <Mirro> anyone who knows Beryl??
[10:40] <Sublimal-> Ok, i'll try that
[10:40] <mista> can anyone tel me how to find out if i have opengl installed and running
[10:40] <tristan> crimsun, it says for example : libxdmcp6 depends on x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0); however:The version of x11-common on the system is 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[10:40] <timalot> |Bot|: what version?
[10:40] <Ademan_> Mirro: i used beryl for a while
[10:40] <crimsun> tristan: dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop |grep ^ii |awk '{print $3}'
[10:40] <Mirro> anyone who got Beryl??
[10:40] <Mirro> ok
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Mirro: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:40] <mista> ME
[10:40] <|Bot|> timalot# edgy
[10:40] <CarinArr> nox_ville, ooooh.. have you tried using network-admin?
[10:40] <Sublimal-> Im running 6.06 now, uppgrade to 6.10 ?
[10:40] <Ademan_> Mirro: i don't reccomend using it though, its still in a very early stage
[10:40] <ehird> i'll ask because the channel is quiet right now, is "apt-get install kde-core" then "apt-get remove gnome <command to remove all gnome apps>" dangerous or will it give me what i intend? (i.e. a lightweight kubuntu basically)
[10:40] <Nox_ville> yes.. i don't know what to set to what...
[10:40] <timalot> |Bot|: ok hold on
[10:40] <tristan> crimsun, no pachake for ubuntu desktop (I'm running KDE)
[10:40] <Ademan_> Mirro: but what's your question?
[10:41] <crimsun> tristan: then s/ubuntu/kubuntu/
[10:41] <CarinArr> nox_ville, well if you go to properties on your wireless card, you should get a list of available networks
[10:41] <tristan> crimsun, ???
[10:41] <Mirro> Ademan_, yea i know, i experience it now )) after installing xgl I cant change my layout with normal tool
[10:41] <crimsun> tristan: dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop |grep ^ii |awk '{print $3}'
[10:41] <Ademan_> Mirro: Xgl is evil on top of that lol
[10:41] <Sublimal-> crimsun: it isnt working in 6.10 either ?
[10:41] <Mirro> Ademan_, I change it, but qwerty keeps staying....
[10:41] <Nox_ville> well there are like 5 "available" networks.. yet from my windows pc, i can only see 1
[10:41] <Sublimal-> Is it a known bug ?
[10:41] <tristan> crimsun, ok, answer is 0.86
[10:42] <crimsun> Sublimal-: not likely, unless it's just a mixer problem. It's a known issue for certain IDs.
[10:42] <timalot> |Bot|: according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=xserver-xgl&version=edgy&arch=i386 ... that file SecurityPolicy is in the xserver-xgl package... maybe remove it then install it again after upgrade
[10:42] <crimsun> Sublimal-: can you pastebin your ``amixer'' output?
[10:42] <Sublimal-> crimsun: yes
[10:42] <Sublimal-> w8
[10:42] <|Bot|> timalot# thnx
[10:42] <Mirro> Ademan_, and first everything worked, but after a reboot Beryl manager doesnt work and so does Theme manager
[10:42] <timalot> |Bot|: np
[10:43] <us-1bach-abc> yeeee
[10:43] <Ademan_> Mirro: oh, hrm keyboard stuff almost makes me think it might be Xgl's fault, which further proves my point that Xgl is evil lol
[10:43] <tristan> crimsun, should I try to reboot and run a distupgrade in command line only?
[10:43] <sacker> Woot my Wireless card pretty much worked out of the Box :D
[10:43] <ictoanthbty> has anyone gotten eciadsl working in edgy?
[10:43] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: yes, but I need more info, like which codec is used.
[10:43] <crimsun> tristan: shouldn't make a difference
[10:43] <mezga0153> hi, anybody knows why i'm getting /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator" in my .xsession-errors after i upgraded to edgy?
[10:43] <mezga0153> If I try to run gnome-session manually i get this error: (nautilus:4978): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Unable do determine the address of the message bus
[10:44] <Sublimal-> crimsun: http://pastebin.se/4218
[10:44] <mezga0153> tried apt-get remove dbus --purge && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but it didnt help :(
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: You mean for the speaker, or for any particular thing I want to play?
[10:44] <Mirro> Ademan_, any ideas to solve this prob?
[10:44] <tim167> can anyone help me turn off 'put display to sleep' on Dapper, I tried system>preferences>powermanagement... also tried xset s off, xset dpms etc...but display still goes to sleep
[10:44] <Ademan_> Mirro: what video card do you have?
[10:44] <tristan> crimsun, I don't understand because xmgrace is no more installed and the bin folder in /usr/X11R6 is no more...
[10:44] <crimsun> Sublimal-: right, you'd need the patches in current hg. It's not fixed in 6.06.1 or 6.10.
[10:44] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: any ideas?
[10:45] <Sublimal-> current hg ?
[10:45] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: what's the difference?
[10:45] <Isyth> heyhey everyone
[10:45] <Mirro> Ademan_, ati mobility x600. the point is, that everything worked b4
[10:45] <Isyth> I have a little question
[10:45] <crimsun> Sublimal-: hg, aka Mercurial, is the revision control system used
[10:45] <Sublimal-> Okej, i see
[10:45] <Sublimal-> So, the only way to make it work is to compile it myself ?
[10:45] <CarinArr> nox_ville, you will need to know what the network you want to connect to is called then.. windows doesn't always show all available networks by default
[10:45] <crimsun> currently, yes.
[10:45] <ripper> any body have problems installing edgy on an hp-8705W desktop?
[10:46] <MasseR> Mirro: What's the problem?
[10:46] <Ademan_> Mirro: before beryl? or before Xgl? or both?
[10:46] <Sublimal-> crimsun: ok! thanx for your help!
[10:46] <ripper> i cant seem to get the install cd to boot.
[10:46] <Sublimal-> ill try compile it
[10:46] <Ademan_> MasseR: can't change keyboard layout i believe
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I don't know (that being the problem I guess).  My goal would be to make this the default output, rather than the headphone jack.  What info do I need to look up, and where would I find it, for you?
[10:46] <Sublimal-> but, i think i will re-install 6.10
[10:46] <Nox_ville> well all 5 of the networks "availible" are named the same name.... and i can't change those names...
[10:46] <MasseR> Ah
[10:46] <Isyth> Do any of you know if it's possible to run a version of linux on a handheld/palmtop pc?
[10:46] <duncanm> what package do i need to install to view dvds with totem?
[10:46] <CarinArr> nox_ville, oh, just try one of them then
[10:46] <tristan> crimsun, so maybe bin is still stocked in memory... since it seems to see it while it doesn't exist anymore
[10:47] <duncanm> it worked in dapper, now that i upgraded to edgy, it stopped working
[10:47] <tim167> ripper: did you set your boot-sequence ?
[10:47] <Mirro> Ademan_, before rebooting beryl worked
[10:47] <ripper> yes
[10:47] <ripper> it goes through booting, and stops
[10:47] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: link me to the data sheet for whatever codec your hardware uses.
[10:47] <ripper> its almost like its going into kernel panic
[10:47] <Mirro> MasseR, after installing xgl I cant change my layout with normal . I change it, but qwerty keeps staying. I installed Beryl, first everything worked, but after a reboot Beryl manager doesnt work and so does Theme manager. I got Ati mobility x600 if it might help.
[10:47] <CarinArr> nox_ville, i get that at work as well, and picking a random one of them normally works
[10:47] <crimsun> tristan: did you pastebin the command and error?
[10:48] <Ademan_> Mirro: so beryl isnt working? i added start-beryl-manager to my session's startup programs, is that what you did?
[10:48] <Mirro> no, i do it manually
[10:48] <Ademan_> Mirro: might wanna try that
[10:49] <Ademan_> actually, i had this: beryl-manager --force-window-manager --force-decorator    but still
[10:49] <ictoanthbty> has anyone gotten eciadsl working in edgy?
[10:49] <eva> when i am trying to rig in grip i get a warning "invalid encoder executable" anyone know what to do
[10:49] <Ademan_> Mirro: whats not working about beryl though?
[10:50] <tristan> crimsun, no. It's in French....
[10:50] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: well if i choose one.. network-admin only shows an IPv6 address, not an IPv4... do i manually have to assign one...?
[10:50] <Oetzi> hi i have problems using gnomebaker under dapper
[10:50] <Sublimal-> how can i download-only with apt?
[10:51] <Oetzi> I only can burn cds with superuser rights
[10:51] <tristan> crimsun, anyway I thin at least you can understand part of it : http://pastebin.ca/224246
[10:51] <Constrictor> how do you resolve dependency problems with dpkg?
[10:51] <Oetzi> is there a possibility to grant rights to normal user
[10:51] <crimsun> Constrictor: you don't.
[10:52] <ictoanthbty> well bye
[10:52] <CarinArr> nox_ville, is it the same regardless of which one you choose?
[10:52] <Mirro> Ademan_, the Theme changed to something without title bar (could be a engine error mb) and theme manager doesnt change anything. now if i even start Beryl manager to do some changes manually, it doesnt work.
[10:52] <crimsun> tristan: pastebin ``dpkg -l xmgrace''
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I think I found it: http://www.ortodoxism.ro/datasheets/analogdevices/397696214AD1981A_0.pdf
[10:52] <Constrictor> crimsum: i have a little problem after install kubunutu desktop
[10:52] <Lancellor> Hi guys an stupid question i just bought a laptop hp pavilion dv2125nr with a amd turion 64x2 processor dual core  with nvidia  geforce Go 6150 and 1 gig ram do i have to install 64 bit edition or can i install the regular 32 bit
[10:53] <Ademan_> Mirro: #beryl, i had that problem, i'm pretty sure it had to do with the composite extension not being enabled properly
[10:53] <Constrictor> it's recommended that i run apt-get install -f but it doesn't resolve the issue
[10:53] <tristan> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/224250
[10:53] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: well with only a IPv6 i get the "network unreachable" problems, with a manually assigned ipv4 i get the error "could not connect..."
[10:53] <ehird> Is there any disadvantage to apt-get?
[10:54] <crimsun> tristan: xmgrace is still installed; you claimed to have already removed it.
[10:54] <CarinArr> nox_ville, is this your own network you're connecting to or work/uni/whatever?
[10:54] <dv5000> hello when im trying to install efty i get the following msg and it freezes: bug soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[10:54] <crimsun> tristan: ``sudo dpkg -P xmgrace && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> ehird: It doesn't handle dependencies when uninstalling as well as aptitude.
[10:55] <Nox_ville> its just a random access point lying around my accomodation.. but any windows pc seems to connect fine...
[10:55] <Mirro> Ademan_, thx
[10:55] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: is there an access point config i must make?
[10:55] <Ademan_> Mirro: no problem, good luck
[10:55] <tristan> crimsun, Iwhen I do sudo dpkg -P xmgrace, it says cannot uninstall xmgrace because it is not installed
[10:56] <Constrictor> can anyone help with this error found here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28630/
[10:56] <CarinArr> nox_ville, well if so i'd assume it would work if you just put it to dhcp, and left all the rest blank
[10:56] <tristan> Constrictor, it seems you have the same trouble as me but with a different package
[10:56] <crimsun> tristan: what fs are you using on /usr ?
[10:56] <crimsun> (please don't say XFS)
[10:57] <guillem101> my gnome-terminal and firefox fonts are crappy after the upgrade to edgy... what can I do?
[10:57] <Nox_ville> CarinArr: but how can i ping a pc that doesn't automatically get a ipv4 address tho
[10:57] <tristan> crimsun, ext3 I suppose since it is in / and / is ext3
[10:57] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: ok, thanks. I obviously can't address it right this moment, but I'll look sometime this weekend.
[10:57] <Constrictor> how did you resolve it tristan
[10:57] <dv5000> hello when im trying to install efty i get the following msg and it freezes: bug soft lockup detected on CPU#0! can someone help me?
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Okay.  Is it easier for you to try to find me here, or e-mail me?
[10:57] <tristan> Constrictor, crimsun is still trying to help me to get out of that...
[10:58] <Nox_ville> !samba
[10:58] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:58] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: honestly it's not easier for me either way.
[10:58] <Constrictor> right
[10:58] <rpedro> hi
[10:58] <abc> i got a question, may i ask?
[10:58] <Lynoure> abc: always
[10:59] <crimsun> tristan: do you have Synaptic/update-manager/Adept/aptitude still open?
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Would anything else be better?
[10:59] <rpedro> what is the command to restart HAL? I'm getting a bug that I'd like to see first if it's fixable this way, before I submit it
[10:59] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: ping me on Sunday.
[10:59] <|Bot|> timalot# This problem is closed, but Xorg will not start:\ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28631/
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Okay.
[10:59] <tristan> crimsun, adept has the tray icon open. Should I close it?
[10:59] <crimsun> tristan: yes
[10:59] <hype> is it normal if i cant find mplayer and mencoder in my sources on Edgy? (i have universe and multiverse enabled)
[11:00] <tristan> crimsun, it doesn't change anything unfortunately
[11:00] <timalot> |Bot|: i am taking a look
[11:00] <crimsun> tristan: then you have far more serious problems than a simple dist-upgrade can resolve.
[11:00] <tristan> crimsun, OK, it's ok. I have done sudo apt-get -f install and it's ok now
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> !info mencoder edgy
[11:00] <syouth> Hi. Can anyone suggest, where should this issue reported (it's about Ubuntu offial webpage under low resolutions): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1670537
[11:00] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[11:00] <crimsun> tristan: heh.
[11:00] <savvas> Alternate i386 upgrade: "Could not find the upgrade application in the archive, exiting"
[11:01] <abc> Thank you, so...i downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 yesterday, and the connection was very erractic, sometimes, breaking, sometimes freezing and sometimes showing "error". finally after pressing "pause" and "resume" several times, i got the ISO. Now i want to verify whether i got it correctly, and so i surfed ubuntu.com and they told me ...
[11:01] <savvas> what's wrong?
[11:01] <abc> sorry, for your time, problem solved, thanks anyways
[11:01] <abc> bye!
[11:01] <tristan> crimsun, thanks it is running fine now. Thank you so much for your help
[11:01] <timalot> |Bot|: ok it doesnt look like there is an error ... an u run sudo X from a terminal?
[11:01] <LookTJ> Hmm
[11:01] <_azrael> hype: While it may in theory be there, mplayer is one of the applications that is often best compiled from svn--it's usually in a pretty stable state and is ahead of binary versions.
[11:02] <timalot> |Bot|: can u ...
[11:02] <LookTJ> I think firefox 2.0 got a bug?
[11:02] <tristan> Constrictor, still here?
[11:02] <valehru> hmm...I think edgy broke my wmv codecs
[11:02] <hype> _azrael , true, i tried to compile it, but i have issues iwth x264 (that i've just compiled from svn)
[11:02] <Ademan_> is there no mplayer backend for totem anymore?
[11:02] <ManUtd> a
[11:02] <Constrictor> yep
[11:02] <Ademan_> valehru: did for me too
[11:02] <savvas> i can't update dapper to edgy from the alternate cd :( i have it mounted, do you think that's the problem?
[11:02] <gebruiker> does anyone got rt61 working on ubuntu???
[11:02] <gebruiker> cause wifi sucsk
[11:02] <hype> and when i launch mplayer, i have HUGE sound issue: i must have messed with some options :/
[11:02] <_azrael> hype: What is "x264" ?
[11:02] <crimsun> tristan: np
[11:02] <hype> vido codec
[11:02] <LookTJ> oh and i wonder why wmv doesnt show video
[11:02] <valehru> Ademan_, is there any patch yet?
[11:02] <Nox_ville> whats the best MP3 player?
[11:03] <|Bot|> timalot# i run X from root - try run from user ?
[11:03] <LookTJ> only sound?
[11:03] <tristan> Constrictor, judging on my trouble I think that you have to uninstall the bonjourn package if it is not an important package
[11:03] <_azrael> hype: Ah. Try installing the ubuntu w32codecs package.
[11:03] <Constrictor> i'll try that
[11:03] <tristan> Constrictor, by a sudo apt-get remove --purge bonjour
[11:03] <_azrael> hype: Additionally, as far as options go, generally the default settings work.
[11:03] <dv5000> when im trying to install edgy i get this msg while booting and it freezes: [1717699.008000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! could someone help me?
[11:03] <_azrael> hype: Specifying command line settings for that ./configure is mainly for override purposes only.
[11:03] <hype> _azrael , i install w32 from archive (you know the one with the date in the name :p)
[11:03] <tristan> Constrictor, afterwards you should close all the update/upgrade like synaptic, aptitude, adept manager that youhave
[11:03] <timalot> |Bot|: so it doesnt work from root ? ....
[11:04] <Ademan_> valehru: i'd say just reinstally your w32codecs
[11:04] <_azrael> hype: Ah. As far as that goes, I have no specific knowledge of that codec, sorry.
[11:04] <tristan> Constrictor, and finally run sudo apt-get -f install to fix the broken pckage and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:04] <Ademan_> valehru: i've just been using mplayer so idon't really care
[11:04] <Constrictor> ah
[11:04] <hype> _azrael , i used this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187709&highlight=mplayer
[11:04] <Constrictor> will try that now and let you know
[11:04] <Constrictor> one sec
[11:04] <hype> (check options)
[11:05] <tristan> Constrictor, what's that package bonjour anyway? It means hello in French...
[11:05] <hype> some people just had the same issue, and just said removing the x264 flag would solve the issue, but it didnt -_-
[11:05] <savvas> heh found the culprit, you must do it from the ~/ dir :P
[11:05] <Nox_ville> !media
[11:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:05] <_azrael> hype: Do you explicitly need this x264 codec?
[11:05] <hype> _azrael , what options do you use to compile mplayer?
[11:05] <dv5000> when im trying to install edgy i get this msg while booting and it freezes: [1717699.008000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! could someone help me?
[11:06] <_azrael> hype: I use ./configure with no flags.
[11:06] <wiking> since i've upgraded to edgy my ipod is not automatically mounted, any fixes for this? )
[11:06] <_azrael> hype: I've only used flags when my libraries are in abnormal places.
[11:06] <hype> _azrael , not really, tho i tried to compile without this option; mplayer is still unusable because of sound
[11:06] <zanpakuto> anyone used Xen here in edgy?
[11:06] <hype> ok
[11:06] <hype> like win32 codecs
[11:06] <hype> mm, i'll try that
[11:06] <Nox_ville> PPL>>> Whats a good MP3 music player ?????
[11:06] <_azrael> hype: As long as those are in place beforehand, it detects them and enables this.
[11:06] <apokryphos> dv5000: have you Googled?
[11:06] <Constrictor> bonjour helps you set up networks with mac tristan
[11:06] <hype> Nox_ville , xmms, bmp, audacious
[11:06] <apokryphos> Nox_ville: /msg ubotu audio
[11:07] <Rock_Star> _azrael, beep media player
[11:07] <_azrael> Rock_Star: Why should I use beep? mplayer works fine.
[11:07] <gebruiker> MY RT61 DOESN'T WORK ON UBUNTU EDGY!!
[11:07] <hype> _azrael , cheers
[11:07] <apokryphos> why would anyone use beep if there's something like banshee out there for GTK users?
[11:07] <GeorgeDutch> Guys where can i get the totem plugins to handle audio in mozilla?
[11:07] <gebruiker> COULD SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[11:07] <apokryphos> gebruiker: no shouting please
[11:07] <tristan> Constrictor, ok. Then maybe you will reinstall it afterxards but it seems it's causing the upgrade problem
[11:07] <gebruiker> I DON'T SHOUT
[11:07] <gebruiker> ??
[11:07] <apokryphos> !find totem
[11:07] <syouth> I haven't checked Edgy, but in 6.04 there was still BMP in official branch, but no Audacious.
[11:07] <ubotu> Found: libtotem-plparser-dev, libtotem-plparser1, libtotem-plparser1-dbg, totem, totem-gstreamer (and 2 others)
[11:07] <Rock_Star> _azrael, a matter of taste.. beep looks more nice.. small and compact..
[11:07] <syouth> BMP is dead
[11:08] <hype> i use xmms now :p
[11:08] <apokryphos> GeorgeDutch: search for totem in synaptic
[11:08] <hype> loved audacious
[11:08] <syouth> xmms is even more dead than BMP :P
[11:08] <_azrael> Rock_Star: I run mplayer, not gmplayer :P
[11:08] <Constrictor> i can't remove it
[11:08] <eva> Nox_ville i have tested some mp3 and i like vlc
[11:08] <dxdemetriou> ti tried bmpx, but I think bmp is ligter and better
[11:08] <valehru> bugger, Chinas firewall doesnt like me downloading the codecs through APT. Does anyone have a HTTP link for me to get them?
[11:08] <Constrictor> tristan: because ksysguard is now in the mix as well
[11:08] <apokryphos> again, why would you not use banshee if you wanted a decent audio GTK app?
[11:08] <valehru> w32codecs that is/
[11:09] <NotYourName> my Edgy install freezes after a few mins with screen of vertical lines
[11:09] <Rock_Star> bmp is the best,its alive and rocking  ;D
[11:09] <tristan> Constrictor, well, there it seems your trouble is bigger than mine. maybe ask crimsun if he is still around...
[11:09] <Clavain> hidaho, can somebody tell me, how to get out the processname or pid from the installertool from desktop CD? installtool is freezing sometimes :/
[11:09] <hype> put a skin on xmms, and you got the same :p
[11:09] <Constrictor> i'll sort it out
[11:09] <apokryphos> Rock_Star: why would you say that? It's better than xmms, but surely that's the only thing it's got...
[11:09] <syouth> Rock_Star: How is it alive. It's develeopment team decleared it dead and started with BMPx ... Audacious is the most close fork of BMP under active development
[11:10] <syouth> apokryphos: Me too:P
[11:10] <syouth> Edgy has 1.4 of amarok?
[11:10] <apokryphos> !info amarok
[11:10] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB
[11:10] <abc> I got a question about XGL. How do i make it run on Ubuntu? I have totally no idea about it, but checked out a video on GoogleVideo, that said that, XGL was running on Ubuntu. I too need to have those coold 3D Desktops. Can someone point me to a link or be kind enough to explain it to me?
[11:10] <apokryphos> yes
[11:10] <apokryphos> abc: /msg ubotu xgl
[11:11] <abc>  /msg ubotu xgl
[11:11] <abc> What is this?
[11:11] <apokryphos> abc: no space before the /msg
[11:11] <Constrictor> tristan, and let you know how. i think i might need to rebuild kubuntu
[11:11] <abc> apokryphos: Thank you
[11:11] <apokryphos> np
[11:12] <NotYourName> where can i get install help...my
[11:12] <NotYourName> my Edgy install is freezing up
[11:12] <Homer_Linux> hiya ppl i just installed kde onto of my gnome de  ,but now firefox is not defaulf browser how do i correct this
[11:13] <apokryphos> NotYourName: freezing up how, where?
[11:13] <syouth> Last time people:) -- Can anyone suggest, where should this issue reported (it's about Ubuntu offial webpage under low resolutions): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1670537
[11:13] <NotYourName> freezes after a few minutes of displaying Ubuntu logo
[11:13] <syouth> *official*
[11:14] <NotYourName> screen becomes full of vertical lines
[11:14] <NotYourName> keyboard doesn't respond to anything
[11:14] <Stonehead> the firefox2 startup page doesn't exist yet :)  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/610
[11:14] <Homer_Linux> also whats the best was in linux of cloneing my main hdd ,backing up everything
[11:14] <apokryphos> NotYourName: is this after you've installed, or in the live session?
[11:15] <NotYourName> i haven't installed...just booted from CD and chose the first option...install
[11:15] <savvas> Homer_Linux: try partimage
[11:15] <|Bot|> timalot# http://support.kurkino.net.ru/log/Xorg.0.log   - its last log
[11:15] <NotYourName> didnt get any more options after that
[11:15] <|Bot|> timalot# run from user
[11:15] <Homer_Linux> thanks savvas
[11:16] <DaGame> After chrooting can I unmount the original partition I chrooted from?
[11:16] <apokryphos> NotYourName: can't suggest more than (i) filing a bug report and, (ii) trying the alternate CD for the time being
[11:16] <syouth> Homer_Linux: I used Knoppix and used dd_rescue
[11:16] <syouth> I had a soon-to
[11:16] <NotYourName> what about trying with a different graphics card...is that likely to help?
[11:16] <syouth> soon-to-be-dead hdd and got my media out of it
[11:16] <apokryphos> NotYourName: perhaps
[11:16] <syouth>  /home stayed there:(
[11:17] <anil> HI all, I have a problem while booting into my ubuntu machine. Actually I tried updating kubuntu to 3.5.5 a couple of days before and this happened. I would like to know where can I find some kind of a log file so that I can paste it in here for your feedback. Thanks.
[11:17] <NotYourName> ok...tnx
[11:18] <KenSentMe> I use the ATI Big Desktop setup for dual screen, but since i upgraded from Ubuntu Dapper to Edgy, fglrx doens't work anymore. flgrxinfo says: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". What can i do?
[11:18] <timalot> |Bot|: are u using the right driver? ... i810? .... u could try backing up your xorg.conf and running X -configure
[11:18] <timalot> |Bot|: X will try to create a good xorg.conf
[11:18] <c0nfidencal> hi dudes
[11:19] <rickympl> hi
[11:19] <syouth> K
[11:19] <valehru> The server to download the w32codecs "http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/" seems to be down.  Has anyone got a mirror or a copy of the codecs themselves?
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> im running ubuntu 6.10, but i have problems with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4748/screenshotcl4.png
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> after i chose my video card 'name'
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> it shows this screen and thats it
[11:19] <c0nfidencal> i cant press ok button :(
[11:19] <rickympl> im having problems getting into gnome session with one user, get a blank screen with mouse cursor, but can log in with another user
[11:20] <vidar> um, after installing from the dvd, the box boots and i get a console login prompt. no x? also, the fs is mounted read-only(!?). ideas?
[11:20] <|Bot|> timalot# yes i use i810 cipset this worked from dapper %\
[11:21] <yukio> Sorry, why in Firefox fonts seem too big now? (Edgy)
[11:21] <|Bot|> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ....  i did
[11:21] <vidar> (and what the heck is the root passwd?? ;)
[11:21] <ehird> vidar: it has none
[11:21] <ehird> you use sudo and your own pass ;)
[11:21] <ehird> (or gksudo for graphical apps)
[11:22] <vidar> ah, ok. thanks.
[11:22] <timalot> |Bot|: try X --configure ... to create another xorg.conf
[11:22] <vidar> still, i think something here is badly broken.
[11:22] <vidar> no x on boot, read-only root fs...
[11:22] <c0nfidencal> anyone can help me? :x
[11:23] <|Bot|> timalot# , now I shall try
[11:23] <anil> HI all, I have a problem while booting into my ubuntu machine. Actually I tried updating kubuntu to 3.5.5 a couple of days before and this happened. I would like to know where can I find some kind of a log file so that I can paste it in here for your feedback. Thanks.
[11:23] <duckdown> Hi all... When I try to run 'screen' when I su to another user, it keeps telling me it cannot open /dev/ptyX .. How can I fix this problem?
[11:23] <ehird> anil: whats your problem ;)
[11:24] <daunt> uh oh ..
[11:24] <erUSUL> anil: /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <anil> Well the botting stops
[11:24] <daunt> my dapper->edgy upgrade is not in good shape ..
[11:24] <ehird> anil: what EXACTLY happens on the screen
[11:24] <daunt> jay@jdev:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[11:24] <ehird> haha, edgy must be damn buggy
[11:24] <c0nfidencal> yes it is
[11:24] <c0nfidencal> :x
[11:24] <c0nfidencal> imho
[11:24] <daunt> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: emacsen-common being used before being configured.
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: This is likely a bug in the erlang package, which needs to
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: add one of the appropriate dependencies.
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: See /usr/share/doc/emacsen-common/debian-emacs-policy.gz
[11:24] <daunt> ERROR: for details.
[11:24] <ehird> it works fine for me after that No Root System sillyness
[11:24] <luki_> Hey Guys ... I have installed new Ubuntu 6.10 and ati-fglrx driver - I made a change to xorg.conf (fglrx in section device) and X runs fine but when I do fglrxinfo I got "mesa" instead of Ati stuff ... what might be wrong ?
[11:24] <ehird> !pastebin | daunt