[00:01] <OerHeks> hi Grug_ welcome to the  helpchannel
[00:03] <HackerII> if you have an acer, get a refund.
[00:04] <HackerII> crappy bios/ crappy everything.
[00:04] <OerHeks> soundsettings > soundeffects > mute, done
[00:04]  * OerHeks kills KVM
[00:04] <HackerII> amazing
[00:05] <HackerII> good for the newbies
[00:05] <tusharm> hey guys, new here... Wassup?
[00:05] <HackerII> state your case.
[00:05] <OerHeks> sun, network, whatelse ?
[00:05] <tusharm> case?
[00:05] <HackerII> reverse bios
[00:06] <erebel55> isn't the -t flag for ssh supposed to help with the no tty issue?
[00:06] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/SR9XOUj.png
[00:06] <HackerII> tusharm:  sak away friend.
[00:07] <HackerII> ask*
[00:08] <tusharm> oh! ... my chrome just freezes everytime I close my screen (as in the laptops flap)
[00:08] <tusharm> could you point me in the right direction to troubleshoot it?
[00:11] <OerHeks> tusharm, on what url does this happen, with flash ?
[00:13] <tusharm> general... no specific urls... even if just google is open
[00:16] <OerHeks> check dmesg or chrome://crashes or firefox about:crashes or look in /var/crash
[00:17] <OerHeks> if this give no clue, check your memory with memtest86
[00:17] <HackerII> jusat a guess, its flash.
[00:18] <HackerII> pardon my k/b
[00:18] <OerHeks> maybe a bad/damaged profile, depends on the browser
[00:19] <Grorco> how can I log what changes are being made when I suspend?
[00:20] <Grorco> more specifically network hardware, and key lock
[00:29] <Grorco> okay better question is there anyway to find what your network lock button combo is/ if it even exist?
[00:32] <lordcirth> Grorco, it's almost always labeled on your keyboard, or on the side.
[00:37] <TRyvGA> Hi
[00:38] <TRyvGA> hi
[01:03] <azizLIGHT> when i open programs using crossover linux, the icon on the launcher is wrong: http://i.imgur.com/Tvu0DfB.png
[01:03] <azizLIGHT> how do i fix this
[01:04] <freshpH> Excellent work the updates, crew. Brand new Linux kernel is now available to Ubuntu clients.
[01:04] <chequers> hi, is do-release-upgrade meant to work to upgrade 14.04 server to 16.04 ?
[01:04] <reisio> azizLIGHT: that's the teamviewer icon
[01:05] <reisio> azizLIGHT: did you install teamviewer from a file obtained from teamviewer.com earlier?
[01:05] <somsip> !ltsupgrade | chequers
[01:05] <HackerII> people must love pain.
[01:05] <reisio> azizLIGHT: if so you may have started with a teamviewer-poisoned ~/.wine or something
[01:05] <reisio> HackerII: obviously
[01:06] <HackerII> they never read, and then, come here and complain about the obvious.
[01:06] <azizLIGHT> Yes I installed teamviewer using their deb file on their site
[01:06] <freshpH> Excellent!
[01:06] <HackerII> public school needs tom be updated.
[01:07] <freshpH> It just gets better and better for Ubuntu clients.
[01:07] <freshpH> What kinds of benefits should I experiencing with this freshly updated Linux kernel?
[01:07] <HackerII> whatever comes with it
[01:07] <HackerII> did you research it ??
[01:08] <freshpH> Interesting that I got my kernel update only today.
[01:08] <freshpH> It's June 9.
[01:08] <freshpH> Kernel was released May 15 they say.
[01:08] <kshenoy> Anyone use gvim in i3 on ubuntu 16.04?
[01:08] <chequers> somsip: thank you
[01:09] <freshpH> I don't really see anything exciting in the release notes.
[01:09] <azizLIGHT> Where did reisio go
[01:15] <SomeDamnBody> where could I download a corpora of binaries that have debug information compiled right into them?
[01:18] <folder|> Running Ubuntu 16.04 how would I set it so a specific file is removed at boot?
[01:18] <folder|> Flux for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exit correctly and leaves flux.pid laying around so on next boot it doesn't start properly
[01:19] <k1l_> why not use redshift? its the same and that works
[01:20] <folder|> I tried redshift and had all sorts of problems with it not dimming the screens right or only doing 1
[01:20] <folder|> the only problem I have with flux is the one file and thats it
[01:20] <folder|> otherwise it works just as intended
[01:23] <home> i lost the time&date panel item from the task bar how can i get it back ??
[01:24] <Nobgul> in unity?
[01:24] <home> Nobgul: lubuntu desktop
[01:25] <Nobgul> did it just go away now or a consistant problem?
[01:25] <home> Nobgul; just now
[01:25] <Nobgul> ah umm
[01:25] <home> Nobgul; can i reistall it back ?
[01:25] <Nobgul> unlikely you did anything bad. Try a logout and back in?
[01:25] <Nobgul> home:its prob not gone.
[01:26] <home> Nobgul; I tried rebooting just now ,
[01:26] <Nobgul> did you recently uninstall or do anything?
[01:26] <Nobgul> cause the only thing i can think of is indicator-datetime is gone
[01:26] <home> Nobgul; no
[01:26] <xangua> home: right click the panel and add it
[01:27] <Nobgul> xangua: Perhaps i should not have assume they tried that and suggested that first =/
[01:28] <home> xangua; i dont have it in the panel preferences
[01:28] <Tin_man> here is a link about restoring default panel in lubuntu
[01:28] <Tin_man> http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel
[01:29] <Tin_man> didn't read the whole thread, so good luck
[01:29] <Nobgul> try apt-get install indicator-datetime
[01:29] <Nobgul> see if its still installed
[01:30] <Nobgul> if not then thats your issue
[01:30] <xangua> No, it's not
[01:31] <home> xangua: which one ?? http://imgur.com/JCUUSBA
[01:31] <xangua> While it's true lubuntu uses indicators, it just uses a few of them
[01:32] <Nobgul> Stupid internet
[01:32] <xangua> Haven't use lubuntu in a while, maybe it's better asking in lubuntu channel if exist?
[01:33] <home> xangua; so indicator-datetime doesnt exist ??
[01:33] <Nobgul> it should
[01:33] <home> Nobgul; How can i get it back ?
[01:33] <lordcirth> There is a #lubuntu channel, but it's supposed to be supported here too I think
[01:33] <xangua> I basically just install it to try it, then go back to fully functional xfce or Ubuntu
[01:33] <Nobgul> try apt-get install indicator-datetime
[01:34] <Nobgul> if it tells you its installed then i dont know to be honest
[01:35] <home> Nobgul; no it"s installing it ?
[01:36] <home> Nobgul; but i hope it's not for ubuntu cause i have lubuntu !
[01:37] <Nobgul> i think its for all =/
[01:37] <krytarik> home: Yes, don't.
[01:37] <xangua> Like I said, lubuntu just uses indicators for a few things like network indicator and sound indicator
[01:37] <home> krytarik.; i shouldnt install it are u saying ?
[01:38] <krytarik> Yep.
[01:38] <krytarik> home: Did you try clicking on "Add" there yet?
[01:39] <home> krytarik ; no am afraid i woul mess it up with other indicators ..
[01:39] <krytarik> Well, you are trying to readd the clock, no?..
[01:51] <home_> is there another tool i can install that can show me time and date in the desktop ??
[01:56] <Tin_man> home_, look in your software manager for clock, i'm sure there is plenty of choices.
[01:57] <HackerII> cairo-clock
[01:57] <krytarik> home_: Seriously, just click "Add" in the dialog there.
[02:02] <cloneofme> I uninstalled wine but it still apears in the main menu ?!!
[02:06] <destinydriven> any idea when sudo pm-hibernate will work again on 16.04?
[02:10] <zykotick9> destinydriven: hibernate on ubuntu has been "sketchy" for a while...  i wouldn't hold my breath if i was you.
[02:11] <Bashing-om> cloneofme: Old info (?) WineHQ acknowledges that the application menu items are not removed when uninstalling the Windows applications. What have you ' ls -al $HOME/.wine ; ls -al $HOME/.config/menus/applications-merged/wine* ; ls -al $HOME/.local/share/applications/wine ' ?
[02:11] <destinydriven> zykotick9, It used to work great for me on 15.10 and before
[02:11] <zykotick9> destinydriven: does "sudo systemctrl hibernate" work?
[02:12] <zykotick9> sorry "sudo systemctl hibernate"
[02:23] <george__> nick peanuts
[02:23] <george__> hello
[02:24] <george__> I retired.  Been away a while.  Has anything appeared to replace CGI yet.?
[02:25] <somsip> !ot | george__
[02:29] <JamJams> Hit guys I've got an Ubuntu server running and I need to extend my / partion. I can see the free space when I do "parted /dev/sda print free"
[02:30] <roadfish> ssh -Y firefox has always run fast for me until today. I use gkrellm as my network profiler and I see that firefox is not spiking up on bandwidth like it used to.
[02:30] <JamJams> But when I try to extend with "lvextend -L +5g /dev/mapper/rootvol00-rootlvol00" it doesn't work.
[02:30] <roadfish> I did a large ``-cp -r'' over sshfm and that is spiking up bandwidth. But not firefox. Something wierd changed. I rebooted both machines but "ssh -Y firefox" is still slow.
[03:01] <Guest85382> hi ive just recently went to ubuntu and i created the usb and have installed it but every time it has to reboot it starts the install againcan anyone help with this
[03:02] <lordcirth> Guest85382, take the USB out when it reboots
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Guest85382: "and have installed it" .. installed what and where .. Is it your goal that ubuntu be installed to the hard drive ?
[03:02] <lordcirth> Guest85382, well, right now, you have the installer at the start?  Take the USB out and hold the power button.
[03:05] <Guest85382> im using the try ubuntu just now to be able to discuss this, im wanting to install it on the harddrive but everytime i do try it sets me right back to the start and if i take the usb out at the end of the process it tells me to insert boot device
[03:07] <OerHeks> time to go into the bios and set boot to HDD .. like you set it to usb
[03:07] <Guest85382> lordcirth what do you mean take it out, when the boot menu comes up?
[03:08] <lordcirth> Guest85382, once you've run the installer, you don't need it anymore.    Yeah I think he's got it
[03:12] <RlaRed> yup i think that's a pretty easy fix hopefully :)
[03:13] <Guest85382> lordcirth so thats it installing now
[03:13] <lordcirth> Guest85382, ?
[03:14] <lordcirth> Guest85382, is it booting without the USB now?
[03:16] <Guest85382> lordcirth its still installing  so at the end of the process i just take it out and boot into my harddrive?
[03:17] <lordcirth> Guest85382, you started the install again?  Anyway yes, that's the idea.
[03:17] <lordcirth> Guest85382, did you have to change BIOS to boot to the USB?  If so, you will need to change it back to the hard drive.
[03:22] <Guest85382> lordcirth yeah i changed it to usb so all i need to do is change it back?
[03:23] <jwitko> hey can anyone help me figure out why I can only get 503 errors on apt-get update ?
[03:23] <jwitko> fresh install
[03:23] <lordcirth> Guest85382, yes, change BIOS back to boot normally from hard drive
[03:23] <jwitko> 14.04
[03:23] <OerHeks> jwitko, error 503: service unavailable  ,, you might want to change mirror
[03:23] <Guest85382> lordcirth cool dude cheers
[03:24] <jwitko> OerHeks, I have attempted to use the standard ubuntu mirror as well as the U.S. specific mirror
[03:24] <jwitko> also the mirrors seem to be up and running without issue
[03:24] <jwitko> I can go to them manually
[03:25] <OerHeks> jwitko, well, changing mirror is the only solution i know for this .. are you sure you have network up?
[03:25] <OerHeks> you have, if you are typing on the same machine
[03:27] <jwitko> the server can reach the internet without issue
[03:27] <`Zephyr> Does hexchat use different language settings for dictionaries from the rest of the system? Under language support in system settings, I've selected English (United Kingdom) as my language and English (India) as my regional format. However, if I type something like 'colour' in the hexchat text-entry field, I still get a red underline.
[03:27] <`Zephyr> Running Ubuntu 16.04
[03:28] <jwitko> OerHeks:  " W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  503  Service Unavailable"
[03:29] <jwitko> but if i wget that same file
[03:29] <jwitko> with .gz extension added
[03:29] <jwitko> it downloads it with no issues
[03:29] <OerHeks> hmm strange behaviour ..
[03:29] <lordcirth> jwitko, when you wget, are you using https or http?
[03:30] <OerHeks> jwitko, you haven't set a proxy, right ?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> jwitko: DNS issue .. what results pinging google ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ; ping -c3 google.com ' ?
[03:30] <jwitko> OerHeks, no proxy
[03:31] <jwitko> lord4163, I used the same url from the error message.  so http
[03:31] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, he can wget from mirrors
[03:31] <jwitko> ICMP is disabled but I can perform an nslookup just fine from my nameserver
[03:39] <akis> hi all. i have a recent celan installation of 16.04 and it seems that it uses more ram than 14.04 did. Is it true?
[03:45] <lordcirth> akis, I doubt it's a big difference.
[03:47] <akis> lordcirth: i am afraid i show a big difference on moth my systems (a desktop and a notebook).
[03:48] <lordcirth> akis, is it a problem for you?
[03:49] <lordcirth> If so, consider using zram.
[03:51] <akis> lordcirth: yes it is, specially on my desktop with only 2gb available. many times when mozilla browses internet it exceeds all the available ram. i never faced this under 14.04 or 12.04.
[03:52] <julian_> is it possible to bypass the user selection screen entirely on startup?
[03:52] <lordcirth> akis, 2GB is pretty small these days.  You have a few options: 1: get more ram, if possible.  2: install zram, might squeeze a few 100MB for you.  3: Install Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[03:52] <julian_> I clicked don't require password but it still asks to choose a user and I am the only one
[03:53] <lordcirth> julian_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[03:54] <julian_> it works for 16.04 as well?
[03:57] <akis> lordcirth: i always running xubuntu. maybe i didn't mentioned it.
[03:59] <conkeati> Does anyone here happen to know where I might find some documentation on GNOME ./config flags? (or even better the one to disable Wacom support when building gnome-control-center?)
[03:59] <lordcirth> akis, no you didn't.  Ok.  Well, 2GB RAM with firefox or chrome is always going to be pretty tight.  You could try zram, or use seamonkey instead of firefox, or get better hardware.
[04:00] <akis> lordcirth: i prefer to use midori too, but i find it more heavy than under 14.04 was.
[04:06] <rag> ye
[04:07] <PandaBob> hiya
[04:14] <xbox> Hello
[04:16] <eelstrebor> what is this "smart" dns and how is it different than "normal" dns?
[04:20] <OerHeks> eelstrebor, AFAIK it is a paid dns
[04:22] <eelstrebor> OerHeks, i'm wondering if it's worth using since services like netflix are rejecting connections via vpn
[04:22] <eelstrebor> i know, this is OT
[04:23] <OerHeks> oh, no clue about that, though i do see some country settings https://www.cactusvpn.com/smart-dns-setup-tutorials/
[04:28] <user1_> which is best web browser in linux. firefox is too heavy. doesnt even zoom to proper level ( it seems we need to addon for zooming - addons = surveillance! )
[04:30] <OerHeks> 'addons = surveillance" = FUD
[04:30] <OerHeks> !fud
[04:33] <user1_> i would not have. i am basically a cmd  line person. i have seen how flash was erased to give way to html5 which was good. but browser as a whole never went revolution as it should have. its in bad hands.
[04:38] <RainMan28> Hello, I am trying to get an upstart script to run a bash script, and for some reason I get completely different output when running the bash script via upstart versus me just running the bash script from command line. Both the upstart and me running the script manually are done under the user root.
[04:39] <nomic>  whats upstart
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !upstart
[04:41] <OerHeks> RainMan28, can you give us an example what completely different output is?
[04:43] <alex__> privet
[04:43] <RainMan28> OerHeks: yes sure, I am trying to run the command ‘bitcoin-cli getbalance’. When I run it from terminal, it provides me the bitcoin balance of my wallet. When I run it from terminal, it tells me “error: You must set rpcpassword=<password> in the configuration file: /.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf”. Then I tried just running ‘whoami’ from terminal and from my upstart script, and they both returned root.
[04:47] <OerHeks> RainMan28, and the upstart script gives no error about password?
[04:47] <RainMan28> OerHeks: sorry I meant, when I run it from upstart it gives me the error: “error: You must set rpcpassword=<password> in the configuration file: /.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf”
[04:47] <RainMan28> OerHeks: when I run it from terminal it gives me the correct balance
[04:48] <Poindexter_> RainMan28 have you tried to chown the bash file to see if that works? Or chmod +x <file>
[04:49] <RainMan28> OerHeks: not sure if its relevant but the bitcon-cli is configured in ./bitcoin/bitcoin.conf file to query a remote server for the balance and in that file there is a rpc password that is set. It seems that when running via upstart its unable to read that config file?
[04:49] <OerHeks> seems like it yes, no access to your /home/
[04:49] <RainMan28> the file is root:root and it is executable. The permissions of the script bash file are: -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root       562 Jun 10 00:30 bitcoind.sh
[04:50] <RainMan28> the bitcoin config file is at /root/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
[04:50] <akik> RainMan28: /.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf is different file than /root/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
[04:51] <OerHeks> akik+1
[04:51] <OerHeks> that could be the culprit indeed
[04:52] <RainMan28> akik: ah i see. but if the upstart script is running as root, why is it looking in /.bitcoin/ vs /root/.bitcoin/ ?
[04:52] <RainMan28> OerHeks and akik, thank you btw for taking your time to help me
[04:52] <akik> RainMan28: not sure, but on some other unix root's home dir is /
[04:52] <user1_> i am appalled to see i have to install addon to apply zoom by default!
[04:53] <user1_> to firefox
[04:54] <OerHeks> hold ctrl + scrollwheel = zoom here in firefox by default
[04:54] <julian_> is ext4 recommended file format for removable disks? I plan to setup the drive as a samba share later but i'm not sure if my Win7 laptop would be able to read/copy off it
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> julian_: better ntfs for windows share
[04:55] <akik> julian_: win7 can use ext4 after installation of ext2fsd
[04:55] <user1_> everytime? why firefox is choosing to keep small letter when started? to market the zoom addon - thats going to make ubuntu less popular.
[04:55] <julian_> hmm, would there be drop in performance for NTFS drives in ubuntu? compared to ext4
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> user1_: firefox can choose specific zooms on specific webpages now with + and -
[04:56] <julian_> because if it is a huge performance drop I might choose ext2fsd option
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> julian_: you could try both ways, and see what best fits you?
[04:57] <user1_> lotuspsychje : specific zooms! i dont understand. why do we need to specify everytime?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> user1_: firefox doesnt know wich page the user wants to have bigger zoom right
[04:59] <nick12772> Hello all. I've just installed Ubuntu server (16.04LTS) on an old laptop and am having trouble connecting to my WIFI router. It was working perfectly yesterday. When I run iwconfig I see that the Access Point is "Not-Associated". I am using wpa_supplicant as the router is WPA encrypted. Can anyone help me to diagnose the problem and get this server online?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: production or test server?
[04:59] <user1_> lotuspsychje : my point is there should be a zoom.default in about:config , which is missing.
[05:00] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: test server. Just to use around the house for printing/files or whatever I can think of to do with it
[05:00] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: mostly for my own education ;)
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: did you recently update system?
[05:01] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: I did an apt-get update/upgrade yesterday, yes
[05:01] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: to be clear, the driver appears to be working. I can find my network via iwlist scanning
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: can you try loading a previous kernel to see if wifi works there?
[05:02] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: I don't have multiple kernels in my grub menu. Do I need to add a previous one to grub manually?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: no, are you sure there are no previous?
[05:03] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: I only have 2 boot options: Ubuntu or some variant of "debug mode"
[05:04] <user1_> !vivaldi
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: doublecheck please if you dont see ubuntu(previous version)
[05:05] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: I'm quite sure. In /boot I only have one vmlinuz file which is vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic
[05:05] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: (checking now to be sure)
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[05:06] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: so the first menu was between Ubuntu or "Advanced Options"
[05:06] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: Advanced Options gives another menu with the generic kernel and a (recovery mode) kernel
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: your kernel should be .24 now
[05:07] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: I may have only done apt-get update and not upgrade
[05:08] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: I'm thinking that's what happened there
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: ok try upgrade or full-upgrade
[05:08] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: cannot without internet
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: plugin a cable
[05:09] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: ok, I'll give it a shot. Going to take a while because I actually dont' have the drivers for eth0 up and running. Also I need to dig up a cable from somewhere
[05:10] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: thanks for the suggestion
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: after system update to latest, it might fix your wifi aswell
[05:10] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: ok cool. Do you have reason to believe it will, or is it more of a hunch? As in, do you know that something changed between these kernel versions that addresses my particular issue?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: well, its always recommended to keep your system up to date yourself as a good base
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> nick12772: if problems still occur after that, we can look deeper into it
[05:11] <nick12772> lotuspsychje: no doubt. Ok, I have some work to do. Cheers buddy!
[05:34] <backbox_> hello
[05:41] <Mrokii> Hello. I have freshly installed KDE 16.04 on a laptop and had it connected to the net via ethernet during installation. After the installation I don't see how to configure a wlan-connection on the lap. Where should I look?
[05:51] <Mrokii> Nevermind. Found it.
[05:51] <seaborne> Brand new kernel is out for Ubuntu LTS.
[05:51] <seaborne> Congrats!
[05:58] <achintha> hi
[06:01] <lickalott> is anyone here familiar with virt-manager + qemu/libvirt?  I'm stuck and can't figure out why my guest won't build properly
[06:03] <Kenrin> I've used it, not sure if I could fix anything on it
[06:05] <Mrokii> Okay, another problem arose. I entered the password for my wlan (which is definitely correct), but it doesn't connect (I see my lap in my routers' config screen as "not connected"). Any ideas?
[06:15] <kartoffel_> hello. I apparently have a problem with my usb keyboard. When I try to boot and enter the luks password, I the keyboard is not working. any idea what could be the problem?
[06:19] <Kenrin> You installed xserver-xorg-input-all?
[06:19] <kartoffel_> Kenrin: let me check
[06:20] <kartoffel_> Kenrin: "xserver-xorg-input-all is already the neweset version"
[06:24] <Kenrin> What keyboard is it?  Probably just needs a driver
[06:26] <OlofL> Anyone know if there is a working lync client for ubuntu? Tried pidgin with lync plugin, can't connect properly
[06:27] <Kenrin> Wync should work
[06:28] <kartoffel_> Kenrin: logitech g105
[06:28] <Kenrin> Not free though I think
[06:31] <Kenrin> I don't know kart, you may just need to shut off the computer and unplug the keyboard for like 15 seconds
[06:41] <tsCook> Anyone know how to search for two patterns in ack? ack "(pattern1) and (pattern2)"
[06:43] <Kenrin> Like in the same line ?
[06:43] <Kenrin> or either ?
[06:43] <tsCook> Both in the same line
[06:44] <Kenrin> (pattern1).*(pattern2)
[06:44] <tsCook> Ah, yes. Thanks Kenrin!
[06:46] <kartoffel_> Kenrin: apperently it works when I'm booting an older kernel.... weird
[06:47] <Kenrin> Weird,  kernel must just not have drivers for it
[06:47] <Kenrin> You using a modified one?
[06:48] <kartoffel_> Kenrin: nope.
[06:52] <kartoffel_> Kenrin: also, compiz is eating permanently 20% CPU :-/
[06:54] <TryHard2Brucie> Howdy.
[06:55] <TryHard2Brucie> Hi.
[06:57] <TryHard2Brucie> Is it even possible to install U15.04 on an Bios-only system?
[06:57] <polll> Hey quick question, I'm trying to get Ubuntu 16.04 + AwesomeWM working. Does anyone know how one would edit the key-repeat/delay and taptoclick settings? Would that all be in the rc.lua file or somewhere else? And one more thing, why would pulseaudio not be working by default? Thanks again!
[06:57] <TryHard2Brucie> I can't even boot from usb stick made in Unetbootin.
[06:57] <\9> TryHard2Brucie: 15.04 is dead, do you mean 16.04?
[06:58] <TryHard2Brucie> Sadly it's 15.04
[06:58] <\9> why?
[06:58] <\9> also in my experience unetbootin isn't reliable anymore
[06:58] <\9> better to use something else or just dd the iso to the drive
[06:58] <TryHard2Brucie> Well, I don't have any access to proper internet connection to download new version.
[07:00] <OlofL> How do I upgrade a package to a specific version+ ?
[07:00] <OlofL> libfontconfig1 I have version 2.11.1, I need version 2.11.94 or more
[07:00] <OlofL> ubuntu 16.04
[07:01] <OlofL> apt-get update+upgrade didnt help
[07:02] <TryHard2Brucie> Is there any way to install ubuntu in forced bios_boot mode on an HDD from Ubuntu itself.
[07:02] <\9> OlofL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libfontconfig1 16.04 should have libfontconfig1 2.11.94
[07:03] <\9> OlofL: try sudo apt-get install libfontconfig1=2.11.94-0ubuntu1
[07:04] <OlofL> version 2.11.94-0ubuntu1 was not found
[07:04] <TryHard2Brucie> Like... I have a proper PC with UEFI Ubuntu installed on it and what I want is to somehow install Ubuntu on a separate harddrive with bios_boot. But I just can't find any proper guide with instructions how to do that.
[07:07] <ducasse> polll: xset can set key repeat, at least.
[07:08] <TryHard2Brucie> Is there any way to install ubuntu from a harddrive? Like... Is there any way to make a bootable harddrive with bios_boot partition  and install Ubuntu from it?
[07:08] <ducasse> TryHard2Brucie: you can do it manually with debootstrap
[07:09] <ducasse> TryHard2Brucie: but you need to be booted in legacy mode to install grub in legacy mode.
[07:09] <polll> ducasse, Thanks. Do you know if there's a way to view the keyrepeat values currently set in Unity? And will xset affect the unity-side of things?
[07:10] <ducasse> polll: no idea, never used unity.
[07:10] <adac> With 16.04, is it no more allowed to have inline commands in the /etc/network/interfaces? Since with inline comments I do get this error (And on 14.04 this worked just like a charm) https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a56a9c63328b01cd5c178fdd2b6a4777
[07:10] <ducasse> polll: but no, setting repeat with xset should not affect another environment unless you do it in .xsessionrc
[07:12] <polll> ducasse: And you're suggesting to set it via command-line? (ex. "xset r rate 200 20")
[07:13] <TryHard2Brucie> ducasse: damn, that means that I will have to create another bootable usb stick, since the one I've got was made in Unetbootin and it only works with UEFI some say.
[07:15] <ducasse> polll: i don't use awesome but i3, but i assume awesome can also call commands in its config file
[07:20] <polll> ducasse: Okay, thanks! Did you find any issues regarding i3 + pulse audio?
[07:26] <polll> quit
[07:27] <polll> lol
[07:41] <Grorco> hi does anyone know why dconf editor would show nothing?
[07:42] <OerHeks> maybe you are in a guest account?
[07:42] <Grorco> nope :(
[07:42] <Grorco> I'm using ubuntu mate and trying to switch desktop managers
[07:43] <Grorco> I even opened as root nothing
[07:43] <bazhang> switch to what Grorco
[07:44] <Grorco> I want to tryout openbox
[07:45] <bazhang> so logout and then on login select it Grorco
[07:45] <Grorco> I don't have anywhere to select it from the mate login screen
[07:46] <Grorco> I even clicked around in random places on the bg trying to get lucky lol
[07:47] <OerHeks> https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Switch_Unity_Mate.jpeg
[07:47] <OerHeks> top right corner, i guess
[08:00] <OerHeks>
[08:00] <momomo> i have just installed ubuntu server .. and there is no root user .. only a normal user
[08:00] <momomo> is that normal?
[08:01] <OerHeks> yes, there is no root account, root password is disabled.
[08:01] <OerHeks> !root
[08:01] <OerHeks> 1st account created during install has root priv.
[08:02] <OerHeks> ( with sudo )
[08:03] <momomo> OerHeks, ook.. i added a password for root .. but for somereaon i cant login with root using ssh
[08:03] <momomo> do you know why?
[08:03] <momomo> says permisssion denied
[08:03] <OerHeks> err, how did you add password for root? this is not supported, momomo
[08:03] <momomo> OerHeks, sudo su root
[08:03] <momomo> or sudo su
[08:03] <momomo> then passwd
[08:04] <OerHeks> other linux versions do have a root account, ubuntu is different in this.
[08:04] <momomo> what is not supported?
[08:04] <momomo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/497895/permission-denied-for-rootlocalhost-for-ssh-connection
[08:04] <momomo> this is fucking nuts though ... because I cant not automate my scripts
[08:04] <momomo> i have to go and manually do this crap before being able to root in
[08:05] <momomo> and i did not have to do this on ubuntu 14
[08:05] <momomo> everything just keeps breaking for every ubuntu update
[08:05] <backbox_> agreed lol
[08:05] <Grorco> okay I'm an idiot, I was clicking the names not the arrows smh
[08:08] <OerHeks> oh, if you want an ssh connection with root priveledge ..
[08:08] <OerHeks>  edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set PermitRootLogin yes
[08:08] <OerHeks> that is all
[08:08] <OerHeks> (serverside )
[08:15] <rp2> I wouldn't do that
[08:16] <rp2> insisting on going in as a regular user and using sudo to do things as root gives you better logging and allows you to use root permissions only when you really need them. it's a safer way of working
[08:17] <rp2> put sudo in the scripts
[08:17] <rp2> if they need to run unsupervised, use the sudoers file to allow that rather than the ssh configuration
[08:17] <Kira9204> From a security standpoint, unless you only authenticate with private keys permitting root logins isnt all that great of an idea
[08:17] <rp2> at least that is my general policy
[08:18] <OerHeks> rp2, really ?  "use the sudoers file to allow that rather than the ssh configuration "
[08:18] <Kira9204> rp2: as long as you run the script as root you shouldnt need sudo in front
[08:18] <OerHeks> good luck then with ssh + sudo
[08:18] <Kira9204> At least i dont
[08:18] <rp2> even when you do authenticate with private keys only it's better not to gratuitously use root which is what allowing sshing as root will invite
[08:19] <OerHeks> totally missing the point here ..
[08:19] <rp2> OerHeks, Kira9204 : I'm saying: don't run the script as root. try to avoid it.
[08:20] <OerHeks> the only way to allow a SSH user use root priv, is to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set PermitRootLogin yes
[08:21] <rp2> OerHeks, yes. so I wouldn't do that.
[08:21] <nschoe> Hi all, I'm experiencing very slow apt operations. For a starter `apt update` should be fast, it's only fetching some small files, but then, the worse is when I install things with `apt install`. Typically it takes a loooong time, and I have to CTRL + C then re-run the command again so that it gains some percentages. Then it would stuck again, etc.
[08:21] <nschoe> Any workaround? Any reason?
[08:21] <OerHeks> rp2 then don't.
[08:22] <rp2> nschoe, at which point is it slow? during its interaction with the remote repository, or during the installation phase?
[08:22] <nschoe> Besides I'm building lots of dockers that base on the Ubuntu image, but I cannot CTRL + C in the middle of the apt install. I have to stop my docker and do it again.
[08:22] <nschoe> rp2, During the `Get 2: xxxxx\nGet3: yyyy`
[08:22] <Triffid_Hunter> hi all, trying to update a trusty install on a friend's laptop, getting a ton of 404s during apt-get update, is it EOL already or something and being pulled from mirrors?
[08:22] <nschoe> rp2, (thanks for answering btw :-) )
[08:23] <OerHeks> Triffid_Hunter, please paste the output of update on paste.ubuntu.com , hard to say what is going on, 14.04 is not EOL/dead yet
[08:24] <nschoe> rp2, I definitely think this is while fetching files form the repository.  I'm on xenial BTW
[08:24] <lasus> hey, i'm doing 14.04 to 16.04 upgrade and i'm stuck on 'setting up cmanager (0.39-2ubuntu5) ...' for like 30min. should I 'ctrl+c' and try 'do-release-upgrade -d' again or what?
[08:25] <rp2> so is your network connectivity fine otherwise?
[08:25] <rp2> do you use nonstandard PPAs and are they slow?
[08:26] <nschoe> rp2, well to be honest we _did_ have some problems with Internet connectivity, hence I thought this was due to it. But now it's fixed, our browsing is fine now. So I don't think this was related after all.
[08:26] <PandaBob> anyone from australia
[08:26] <OerHeks> Triffid_Hunter, no idea, what gives: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[08:26] <bazhang> !au | PandaBob
[08:26] <PandaBob> oohh
[08:26] <PandaBob> nice 1 m8
[08:27] <nschoe> rp2, we do have custom repository (I don't know about PPA, we have added our company's repository in sources.lists.d) but the packages that take time fetching are not from this one
[08:28] <rp2> nschoe, it looks like slow network connections to me, find out whether the cause is on your machine, your local network, or elsewhere
[08:28] <Triffid_Hunter> OerHeks: hm, it spits out i386 and armhf.. how'd armhf get in there?
[08:28] <rp2> you can check which packages depend on armhf
[08:28] <Triffid_Hunter> and how do I take it out?
[08:29] <OerHeks> Triffid_Hunter, perhaps some armhf cross development tool .. remove it with : sudo dpkg --remove-architecture armhf  # and update again
[08:29] <Triffid_Hunter> OerHeks: thanks
[08:30] <Triffid_Hunter> OerHeks: says 'error: can't remove architecture 'armhf' currently in use by the database' :/
[08:30] <nschoe> rp2, hum Ill have to try at home then, or setting the phone in AP mode. Thanks. I have a question though (real question, not meaning to troll or anything): can it be the Ubuntu servers under heavy load? I've thought that with the recent release of xenial, lots of people might be switching at the same time?
[08:30] <rp2> the database!
[08:31] <rp2> is this machine a sandbox on which you can break things at will?
[08:31] <Triffid_Hunter> rp2: nope :/
[08:31] <rp2> nschoe, I don't know. I don't plan to use 16.04 any time soon
[08:32] <nschoe> rp2, ho really? Why not? (I'm interested because I was against it, but the company said that this was LTS and so we should switch -_-)
[08:32] <vedu> Hello. how can I delete the last parst of my log file?
[08:33] <vedu> s/parst/parts
[08:33] <manuel> n
[08:33] <rp2> huh? you use LTS because it is stable and has long-term support. for me, that is incompatible with switching to the latest version as soon as it is out
[08:34] <rp2> e.g. there is no upgrade procedure from 14.04 to 16.04 yet
[08:38] <rp2> oh and the community. with 14.04 an issue I experience is far more likely to already have been reported and solved by others
[08:39] <nschoe> rp2, yes but we have just launch a new product and we "needed" systemd, so it was simpler to switch to 16.04 before the product launch. Anyway, why did you say you were not likely to switch anytime soon?
[08:39] <rp2> I would never switch to 16.04 unless there was a specific demonstrable advantage
[08:39] <OerHeks> per 21st july you will get upgrade notice on 14.04.
[08:41] <nschoe> rp2, yes but why? Is it by precautions? Do you hate the number "16"? Is there a major drawback you see in 16.04? Or is it just that you don't think it';s worth the risk because 14.04 does it all for you?
[08:41] <rp2> e.g. I just lost a week of work trying to get a particular query to be fast with the Ubuntu-supplied MySQL and MariaDB packages. turns out it couldn't be done, I fixed it by installing MySQL 5.7 from Oracle's PPA, but if the Ubuntu-provided MySQL or MariaDB with 16.04 also fixes the problem, that would be a reason for me to upgrade
[08:42] <rp2> nschoe, it's because you *know* you're taking risks without having clear benefits. as soon as you find benefits, the picture changes
[08:43] <nschoe> rp2, okay I see. So it's because the risk is currently greater than the benefits. I see.
[08:46] <rp2> yes. also it's because I need to provide support for Linux within my organization. on your own little box you can do whatever you like
[08:47] <nschoe> Ok
[09:10] <brainbox> hey does anyone know how i can change my wlo1 adaptor to appear as wlan0???
[09:13] <ducasse> brainbox: you can create a udev rule
[09:13] <ksbalaji> how to update adobe flash player in firefox?
[09:14] <OerHeks> predictable interface naming..  that is new since 15.10 i think, you can go back to the old names
[09:14] <OerHeks>  Edit your /etc/default/grub. Change the line from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" and run update-grub
[09:14] <ksbalaji> youtube is working nomorre.
[09:15] <OerHeks> ksbalaji, there is no flash update, for years now.
[09:15] <OerHeks> use chrome with build-\in pepperflash
[09:16] <ksbalaji> DerHeks, does that mean, I cant watch videos?
[09:16] <OerHeks> well, i can, firefox and chrome work.
[09:20] <ksbalaji> OerHeks, hey! I like the firefox, which gives me more freedom -- like ubuntu.
[09:21] <Triffid_Hunter> ksbalaji: go to youtube.com/html5, select html5 player, everything should work fine without flash
[09:21] <OerHeks> ksbalaji, have you tried to remove your firefox profile/history?
[09:21] <brainbox> biosdename="1" correct to turn it on?
[09:22] <brainbox> for showing wlan0 instead of iwlo
[09:22] <OerHeks> brainbox, no, read back.
[09:24] <OerHeks> i am not going to correct spelling ..
[09:25] <rishi_> hello
[09:26] <rishi_> every one
[09:26] <rishi_> close
[09:27] <nschoe> rishi_, it's working, you're connect (in case that's what you're trying to see)
[09:28] <Bent0> How does Ubuntu do rebootless kernel patching? I just updated to 4.4.0-24 from -22 using apt. But it's still running on -22.
[09:28] <ksbalaji> OerHeks, thanks for the clue. Sorry for the spelling. My   not-so-good eyesight to blame. I shall try to remove profile.
[09:28] <ksbalaji> Triffid_Hunter, thanks.
[09:32] <ksbalaji> Bye and thanks friends . long live the channel and friends.
[09:32] <OerHeks> ksbalaji, have fun :-)
[09:33] <Blah4> Hi folks, I have a command which I run to stick some videos together but it doesn't seem to work when setting it up in a cronjob. The command is:  ffmpeg -f concat -i <(for f in /usr/local/path/*.mp4; do echo "file '$PWD/$f'"; done) -c copy /home/blah/Desktop/output.mp4
[09:34] <rishi_> ["leaving"]
[09:34] <Blah4> the syslog shows it being run, but the mp4 file isn't being generated. Any ideas?
[09:35] <OerHeks> Blah4, what happens when you write the output.mp4 to the original path /usr/local/path/ instead of your home??
[09:36] <OerHeks> i think your script has no permission to do so ..
[09:36] <C_minus> How can I instruct Nvidia to allocate more vram to a particular process? I have Caffe training a neural net but it's far too slow to be feasible.
[09:37] <Blah4> the original path has 700x 1-minute videos. the command is to concatenate them with ffmpeg and dump the combined video on the desktop
[09:37] <Blah4> but you might be right about the permissions, i might go test that
[09:37] <Blah4> (forgot to add... so i can't add the output.mp4 to the original path)
[09:50] <Caelum> somehow I lost my dhcp config for eth0, what is the standard place for it? /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:51] <vlt> Caelum: Yes.
[09:51] <rat_spotter> just in case you didnt know, america is full of rats ref:http://www.instructables.com/id/100-City-Proof-Garden/
[09:51] <OerHeks> !ot | rat_spotter
[09:52] <Caelum> vlt: thank you
[10:04] <Haris> hello all
[10:04] <Haris> what's the -dev pkg for openssl on 14.4 lts
[10:05] <ikonia> open the package manager, search for openssl and you'll see all available packages, including the -devel packages
[10:05] <Haris> I'm on cli
[10:05] <ikonia> so search using the command line
[10:06] <Haris> have a long list from apt-cache search openssl
[10:06] <Haris> libssl-dev <--- ?
[10:06] <OlofL> How do I import an .ovpn file?
[10:06] <user2> im getting "no partition table found on sdb", which type should I use?
[10:06] <user2> (for fat32)
[10:07] <user2> (use as a bootable usb)
[10:07] <ikonia> ssems logical Haris
[10:07] <ikonia> seems
[10:07] <ikonia> OlofL: import into what ?
[10:07] <OlofL> How do I import an .ovpn file? I'd like to use network manager to setup a openvpn connection. I got a .ovpn file from openvpn server
[10:07] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libssl-dev
[10:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:07] <OlofL> ikonia: network-manager
[10:08] <ikonia> OlofL: if the vpn server is openvpn-as you need to manipulate the file, there are docs and tools
[10:08] <OerHeks> user2, mbr
[10:08] <ikonia> mbr /
[10:08] <Haris> when I build pjproject on this box, it has the option -DOPENSSL_NO_SSL2=1 set in compile options. does that mean I'm missing someting ?
[10:08] <Haris> something+
[10:08] <ikonia> thats the master bootrecord
[10:08] <user2> thanks
[10:08] <OlofL> i installed network-manager-openvpn* but there is no option to import or use ovpn files
[10:08] <ikonia> OlofL: re-read what I just said
[10:08] <user2> er that doesn't seem to be an option
[10:09] <ikonia> user2: because it's not a partition type
[10:09] <ikonia> or a partition table
[10:09] <ikonia> mbr = master boot record, which is just the boot sector of a disk
[10:09] <user2> [aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, msdos, pc98, sun, loop] are the options
[10:09] <ikonia> user2: what exactly are you trying to do
[10:10] <user2> ikonia: i want to format my usb to fat32
[10:10] <user2> but it's saying i need a new partition table
[10:10] <ikonia> user2: so that has nothing to do with a partition table
[10:10] <user2> and i have to choose one
[10:10] <ikonia> thats just a file system
[10:10] <ikonia> just pick msdos if in doubt
[10:10] <user2> ikonia: that's the options it's giving me
[10:10] <user2> ok
[10:19] <prabhu_are> Hi, what is the license  cost for ubuntu
[10:19] <Haris> thank you all
[10:20] <ikonia> prabhu_are: zero
[10:20] <prabhu_are> @ikonia thank you
[10:20] <Triffid_Hunter> prabhu_are: if you fix or improve it, you have to give people your fixes and improvements. that's the cost
[10:26] <cool> hi all
[10:26] <cool> i have xen_netback.ko for version 2.8 but my kernel is 3.8
[10:27] <user2> ikonia: i'm getting "mount.nilfs2: Error while mounting /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/usb: Invalid argument" when typing "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb"
[10:27] <user2> any idea what's going on?
[10:27] <cool> where i can find those kernel module i cant able to find in my machine
[10:27] <user2> ikonia: from "mount the usb" step in https://thornelabs.net/2013/06/10/create-a-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive-in-linux.html
[10:28] <user2> ikonia: also in that guide i've been using sdb1, should i have used sdb instead?
[10:28] <cool> any suggestion
[10:50] <ash_workz> why would the recover button on trash be greyed out?
[10:51] <ikonia> because it's not recoverable ?
[10:51] <ikonia> permissions for example
[10:52] <ash_workz> ikonia hmm.. weird, I was the one who created and deleted it
[10:52] <ash_workz> (I deleted it accidentally though)
[10:53] <blinkyb> hi. i ran 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and it froze halfway, now i restarted the system and the top panel keeps blinking! appearing and disappearing at the same time, i cannot run anything!
[10:54] <ash_workz> ikonia: I can still open it from the trash and copy the contents, but I just thought it was... weird.
[10:55] <symfonyuser> Hi all. I've written a bash script to execute recursively other bash scripts under the first script directory. It's working almost OK, even dealing with paths, but the output of the recursively called scripts isn't showing the echo'es.
[10:55] <symfonyuser> any idea?
[10:55] <ak5> hi, I'm wondering if it is bad practice to add apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to crontab for LTS ubuntu?
[10:56] <symfonyuser> ak5 you should do it manually, some updates may break your system depending on your enabled repositories.
[10:57] <ak5> symfonyuser: for your bash script problem, just use echo in parent script
[10:57] <fsociety[00]dat> how can I fix this? > http://ix.io/QXS
[10:57] <symfonyuser> as echo $recursive_script?
[10:57] <ak5> symfonyuser: echo /path/to/otherscript/that/calls/echo
[10:57] <ak5> well you have to call it
[10:57] <ak5> so $()
[10:58] <ak5> you can also say OUTPUT=$(./myscript); echo $OUTPUT
[10:58] <OerHeks> fsociety[00]dat, that can happen when your mirror is out of sync, try again in a minute or so
[10:58] <symfonyuser> Ok ak5 Ill give it a try
[10:58] <fsociety[00]dat> OerHeks, thank
[10:58] <ak5> symfonyuser: I really just want to keep ubuntu up to date, not worried about breaking anything outside of ubuntu
[10:59] <ak5> symfonyuser: I have scores of servers don't want to care about this one :/
[10:59] <symfonyuser> you know, with ppa:launchpad repos you might break your system
[10:59] <fsociety[00]dat> OerHeks, main mirror?
[10:59] <ak5> symfonyuser: don't have any
[11:00] <symfonyuser> meanwhile you have unsupported repos enabled, do what you want, but it have some security concerns
[11:00] <OerHeks> fsociety[00]dat, sure, you can try an other mirror too .. i would wait and try again
[11:01] <fsociety[00]dat> OerHeks, ok and thanks again
[11:01] <symfonyuser> there's a kind of attack that consists in spoof sources, and you can end upgrading your system to an infected one
[11:02] <symfonyuser> without ever noticing
[11:03] <symfonyuser> i mean apt-sources)
[11:04] <symfonyuser> ak5 about your advice, I've already had it that way lol
[11:04] <symfonyuser> RUNSCRIPT=$($sh);			echo $RUNSCRIPT
[11:05] <symfonyuser> $sh is a foreach of $(find `pwd` -iname '*.sh')
[11:05] <symfonyuser> is the element*
[11:05] <puto> hola
[11:05] <usuario> hola
[11:05] <ak5> so if you run $sh do you get output
[11:05] <ak5> by itself
[11:05] <symfonyuser> y get output
[11:05] <puto> paco
[11:05] <symfonyuser> excuse me
[11:06] <puto> me cago em tu puta madre
[11:06] <puto> jej
[11:06] <usuario> quiero una buena polla
[11:06] <puto> cvabron de ,mmvmdnvuiref
[11:06] <puto> llama a carmen+
[11:06] <usuario> me encantan las pollas negras
[11:06] <Ben64> !ops
[11:06] <symfonyuser> I get output, but only of the commands invoked in the recursively called scripts, not the echoes
[11:06] <puto> negrros everivere
[11:06] <OerHeks> nice talking to yourself usuario puto ??
[11:07] <usuario> pollo pollo polla
[11:07] <puto> p
[11:07] <puto> p
[11:07] <puto> p
[11:07] <puto> p
[11:07] <OerHeks> both quiet for now :-)
[11:07] <symfonyuser> I thougth people in freenode tended to behave :7
[11:07] <blinkyb> how can i fix my system not working? it booted to desktop but the menu panel is blinking and cannot use anything
[11:07] <Xin> I just installed vm's of every official ubuntu distro
[11:07] <Xin>  - 7 vm's xD
[11:07] <Ben64> symfonyuser: this channel tends to attract trolls on occasion
[11:08] <symfonyuser> nevermind
[11:08] <symfonyuser> so, what about those echoes? :S
[11:08] <symfonyuser> I can provida pastes
[11:08] <symfonyuser> provide*
[11:08] <rat_spotter> yeah and not only is it full of rats, but its full of homeless too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJsDOD0dTQI
[11:08] <OerHeks> !ops | rat_spotter
[11:09] <symfonyuser> man some of us here are working...
[11:11] <tusharm> do you guys know of any free online vps / vm running ubuntu (with some substantial storage and root access /sudo access) PS: I don't own a credit card
[11:11] <Xin> free + vps isnt a thing
[11:12] <Xin> free + root isnt a thing
[11:12] <Xin> so, no.
[11:12] <tusharm> well there is labxnow and aws but
[11:12] <tusharm> labxnow requires an invite and aws needs a credit card
[11:12] <symfonyuser> tusharm: did you tried aws free tier's?
[11:12] <OerHeks> tusharm, that question is beyond the scope of this channel
[11:13] <tusharm> suggest another channel then please
[11:13] <tusharm> aws requires a credit card
[11:13] <OerHeks> !alis\
[11:13] <OerHeks> !alis
[11:13] <symfonyuser> tusharm: try amazon web services. they provide you an instance of vm with ubuntu. for free the first year if you only pick up free tier servers.
[11:14] <symfonyuser> you need credit card to register tho
[11:14] <tusharm> yeah but signing up requires a credit card and Idon't own one
[11:14] <symfonyuser> then no idea, sorry
[11:14] <OerHeks> guys, keep ontopic please, let him find out himself
[11:15] <symfonyuser> ok
[11:16] <blinkyb> OerHeks: hi help me out figure this please, my system booted but not working. it is blinking!!
[11:16] <rbasak> Sounds like an Ubuntu release. Ontopic Ocelot.
[11:16] <rbasak> :-)
[11:17] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, Has it actually "booted" or are you sitting a grub prompt?
[11:18] <dirty> my dhcp server is refusing to issue leases and it's confusing me
[11:18] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: it is booted, I can go to terminal and back to screen, but while on desktop i just cannot do anything. the menubar is disapperaring and appearing
[11:18] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, It does this every time?
[11:19] <OerHeks> ctrl alt F2, login, and resume updates: sudo apt-get install -f
[11:19] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: just as of last night, i was installing stuff, once everything's there i 'sudo apt-get upgrade', it froze halfway so i restarted the system manually, now i have this!
[11:19] <OerHeks> else boot live iso, chroot and do it there > http://askubuntu.com/questions/73755/installation-of-ubuntu-system-update-was-interrupted-now-i-cannot-boot-please
[11:19] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, What OerHeks has said would help you
[11:20] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, ctrl alt F2, login, and resume updates: sudo apt-get install -f
[11:20] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: another issue is here (login incorrect) in terminal!!
[11:20] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, Is your keyboard layout correct?
[11:21] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, Type your password in the username field of the terminal to see if it is correct
[11:22] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: yes
[11:22] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, hmm.. Perhaps you should try a chroot
[11:22] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/73755/installation-of-ubuntu-system-update-was-interrupted-now-i-cannot-boot-please
[11:22] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: ok i'll check
[11:23] <alias_> so what's the story with iptables-persistent and systemd on xenial x64?
[11:24] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: i think i need to resolve the login error first
[11:25] <alias_> it lacks required systemd files? Can't find too much online about it? Is it supposed to work with systemd?
[11:26] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, Without being able to actually login we cannot solve that yet
[11:26] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: i'll try reset my password in recovery mode
[11:27] <OerHeks> alias_, howso? no bugs sofar https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/iptables-persistent
[11:27] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/524132/username-and-password-not-working
[11:28] <alias_> OerHeks: Failed to start iptables-persistent.service: Unit iptables-persistent.service not found. => on a vanilla xenial install. Already purged it and reinstalled it to no avail
[11:30] <alias_> Oerheks: Guess it's netfilter-persistent now? I don't have that package on trusty with iptables-persistent installed
[11:31] <alias_> and it comes as a dependency off iptables-persistent on xenial. And that one does work with systemd
[11:32] <OerHeks> alias_, no clue about that :-(
[11:35] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: Ubuntu MATE doesnt seem to have recovery mode, at the grub menu i see (Advances options for Ubuntu), it doesnt boot to Recovery menu
[11:36] <sruli> has anyone updated win 8 to 10 on a dual boot? i want to know if it will take over the boot?
[11:36] <sruli> or if it will cause any other problems to my ubuntu instlation
[11:38] <BluesKaj> sruli:  your boot shouldn't change
[11:38] <sruli> thanks
[11:40] <BluesKaj> sruli:  I would check google or ask in #windows just to make sure
[11:41] <sruli> i wouldn’t go anywhere near a win chat room.. i was asking for a friend whom i converted to linux, he also hasn’t used windows for 2 years but doesn’t want to mis the offer of free upgrade... lol
[11:41] <temp> hi
[11:42] <temp> any one from Qatar ?
[11:42] <temp> joing @chat
[11:45] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: Recovery Mode not listed
[11:53] <marcony> hello, can someone recommend facebook client on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[11:56] <pandaadb> Hi - I've been sent here from ubuntu-uk with a question about my system. /me pastes
[11:56] <pandaadb>  Hi - I was wondering if someone could support me in looking into random crashes with ubuntu 16.04.
[11:56] <pandaadb>  Sometimes the system will not start up, the keyboard does not react, I can't switch into a terminal and the only thing I can do is to hold down the power button and hard restart it
[11:56] <pandaadb>  Or I will lock the computer, and when trying to unlock it, nothing will respond, I don't get a password window, I can;t switch into the terminal etc
[11:56] <pandaadb>  I was wondering if there is a place where these crashes are stored/logged so I can at least google propable causes :)
[11:56] <pandaadb>  It is a fresh install of 16.04 on a dell precsission 5510
[12:02] <Paddy_NI> marcony, What do you mean by "Facebook Client"?
[12:05] <marcony> Paddy_NI, i mean somethink like client, to use facebook not in a browser
[12:06] <Paddy_NI> marcony, Technically all facebook clients are really glorified browsers
[12:06] <ouroumov_> pandaadb, take a look at the file /var/log/kern.log
[12:06] <Haris> hello all
[12:06] <Haris> http://pastebin.com/PdzWJTYJ
[12:06] <Haris> I need to uninstall these 4 pkgs. How do I do it ? running aptitude remove/purge these four pkgs doesn't remove them
[12:06] <brelod> marcony: bitlbee is cool. Not exactly a facebook client, but u can use the facebook (and gmail and so on) chat like it would be an irc channel
[12:07] <Paddy_NI> marcony, Not sure if this still exists http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/facebook-qt-for-linux
[12:07] <pandaadb> ouroumov_ thanks. Is there anything specific I should keep an eye out for?
[12:07] <marcony> ok guys, a will try
[12:08] <BluesKaj> marcony:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php-horde-service-facebook
[12:08] <ouroumov_> pandaadb, CPU / GPU warnings/errors, the word "PIPE" that kind of thing. Is your system fully up to date?
[12:09] <pandaadb> I just did a sudo apt-get upgrade after the crash. I installed my system 2 days ago and did the same then
[12:09] <pandaadb> I found this in kern.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17168763/
[12:11] <pandaadb> And in terms of CPU, i see this in syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17168796/
[12:13] <ouroumov_> pandaadb, http://superuser.com/questions/1080678/ubuntu-16-04-laptop-hanging-requires-powercycle
[12:13] <pandaadb> Thanks! I'll have a read
[12:16] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: i am now in GRUB Boot Menu and it is empty, plank screen
[12:17] <pandaadb> alright ouroumov_ sounds like it is time for me to learn how to update the BIOS :)
[12:18] <ouroumov_> pandaadb, yup. good luck
[12:18] <pandaadb> thanks for your help!
[12:20] <pandaadb> just a really dumb question, but the bios has nothing to do with the OS I am running, right? There's no ubuntu bios version vs a windows bios version?
[12:22] <auronandace> pandaadb: that is correct, however some manufacturers only release tools that can update the bios from windows
[12:23] <pandaadb> that would be very unfortunate for me. I am watching the Dell instructions now and hoping for the best. Thanks :)
[12:23] <tojoko> pandaadb: keep askin' ^^
[12:26] <hxm> hello, can i use dd from the current disk in use?
[12:26] <douglasleer> I have problem running kernel 3.4.x on ubuntu inside virtual box.
[12:27] <pandaadb> mm appears I am on the latest version of Bios
[12:27] <tojoko> hxm, u can, but it's not reommanded.
[12:27] <douglasleer> *ERROR* drm/915 can't work without intel_agp module
[12:27] <auronandace> hxm: you want to dd the current partition you are booted from?
[12:27] <hxm> yes auronandace
[12:28] <douglasleer> EXT3--fs (sda1): error: coundn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240)
[12:28] <andybrine> Hi Everyone
[12:28] <andybrine> Is anyone here an Android Developer?
[12:28] <auronandace> hxm: i would advise against that, best to dd from a live session
[12:28] <hxm> guessed so, i go try it
[12:28] <hxm> thanks
[12:28] <uddane> hello, does anyone know the release date for version 16.x LTS?
[12:29] <douglasleer> I think it's already released
[12:29] <BluesKaj> uddane: July 21st
[12:29] <OerHeks> uddane, 2 months ago
[12:29] <ab123ab456g> it's work
[12:29] <tojoko> uddane, some early day in april?
[12:29] <OerHeks> !ltsupgrade
[12:29] <tojoko> uh
[12:29] <uddane> I know there was an issue with the nvidia driver and the desktop was coming later
[12:29] <OerHeks> mind the 16.04.1
[12:29] <uddane> thought it was june something
[12:30] <BluesKaj> nope point release is july 21
[12:31] <uddane> BluesKaj: thank you.... looks like i get to just wait a bit longer
[12:32] <BluesKaj> uddane:  for the official LTS upgrade, yes
[12:32] <uddane> BluesKaj: yup, that's what I'm looking for
[12:33] <jayvdb> s
[12:34] <OverSpeed301>  Hello, i'm experiencing some problems with my (x)ubuntu. When I start my laptop on morning, it's OK. No lag, it's fluid (not super-fluid, but I can use my PC). After some hours, the laptop becomes very laggy. 3-4 seconds of lag when I press Super key, lag in typing words, etc ... Any ideas ?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> uddane:  it's worth waiting for if you are on the job, for adventurous home users then live media is wortha to see how it runs
[12:35] <BluesKaj> worth a try
[12:35] <OverSpeed301> Laptop is ~55°C, not cold but it doesn't overheat too
[12:35] <eein> are updates continually rolled into the Ubuntu server image?
[12:35] <tojoko> OverSpeed301: how did u meassure the temp?
[12:35] <victor_> hello
[12:35] <uddane> BluesKaj: I'm ok with waiting.... this box is a pain to upgrade, so LTS is the way for me to go
[12:36] <OverSpeed301> tojoko, using the sensors command
[12:36] <eein> or is 14.04 the same packages since it was first released
[12:36] <BluesKaj> uddane:  ok, wise choice :-)
[12:36] <justxux> Does anyone know how to deal with apps that doesn't appear in the launcher right away after I install them, they appear after I relog?
[12:37] <OerHeks> eein there are point-releases, current is 14.04.4 http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[12:37] <BluesKaj> justxux:  try runing them from the terminal or the run comamnd
[12:37] <auronandace> eein: depends what you mean by same packages, bug fixes are done which can bump the ubuntu version of a package
[12:37] <OerHeks> eein, with updates up to 18 feb 2016
[12:37] <eein> OerHeks, thanks. yedah I was having a bug with the partioner
[12:38] <eein> auronandace, yeah. i know the features are frozen but yeah same version just updated release
[12:39] <justxux> BluesKaj, the bug is not permanent tho, i can run apps in terminal (no problem for me) ,but I think about users that will be frustrated about this .
[12:39] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, Okay so what did you do up till now?
[12:39] <OerHeks> justxux, app that expand services may need logout/login
[12:39] <Paddy_NI> blinkyb, Another question is did you use encryption on your ubuntu installation?
[12:40] <Bent0> Just installed Ubuntu 14. After POST the screen goes to black output. It doesnt sleep. Then after a while it starts XServer and there's output again
[12:40] <Bent0> But I cannot see why theres no output and why its hanging. Any ideas?
[12:40] <justxux> OerHeks, Like Vbox?
[12:40] <cbfmc> hello
[12:41] <andybrine> Hi
[12:41] <BluesKaj> justxux:  mist be a bug then
[12:41] <BluesKaj> must
[12:41] <cbfmc> can someone help me get minitube working on 14.04?
[12:41] <andybrine> KVM is required to run this AVD.
[12:41] <andybrine> Your CPU does not support required features (VT-x or SVM).
[12:42] <justxux> BluesKaj, Ok, i'll ask more on bugs irc,ty
[12:42] <andybrine> Im trying to emulate my android app but I get this message
[12:42] <andybrine> can anyone help?
[12:43] <OerHeks> andybrine, not much we can do, KVM needs that cpu extention
[12:44] <andybrine> Is there no workaround?
[12:44] <OerHeks> buy a better cpu?
[12:45] <andybrine> Lol, not the answer I was expecting
[12:45] <andybrine> I have had to keep installing the app on my phone and running it
[12:45] <OerHeks> if i knew a trick, i would give it to you
[12:45] <BluesKaj> andybrine:  your virtualizer is turned off in the UEFI/BIOS, most likely
[12:45] <andybrine> Is it possible to debug on your phone then?
[12:46] <andybrine> BluesKaj, is that easy enough to turn on in the Bios?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> yes usually it's on the main page in the BIOS, andybrine
[12:47] <andybrine> ok thanks, I will take a look
[12:47] <gulzar> andybrine: there is android emulator specially
[12:47] <andybrine> what do you mean?
[12:47] <andybrine> gulzar?
[12:48] <lordcirth> emulators are slow.  KVM will be faster
[12:48] <gulzar> andybrine: https://www.genymotion.com/features/
[12:48] <gulzar> lordcirth: yes but his cpu can't run kvm.
[12:48] <andybrine> awesome, thanks gulzar
[12:48] <OerHeks> intel:  grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo    or AMD:  grep --color svm /proc/cpuinfo  # this will tell if your cpu is capable, not the detection if it is enabled
[12:48] <gulzar> andybrine: ^^
[12:49] <lordcirth> gulzar, as was mentioned, it probably can, he just needs to turn it on
[12:49] <lordcirth> OerHeks, I thought that only showed up if it was enabled?
[12:49] <gulzar> lordcirth: check the support as others say. KVM is awesome
[12:49] <andybrine> those commands didnt show anything
[12:49] <gulzar> andybrine: then 99% no support
[12:50] <OerHeks> 100% no support :-(
[12:50] <andybrine> ahh well, damn it! lol
[12:50] <gulzar> andybrine: try going to bios settngs and check if any such option of virutalization is there.
[12:50] <andybrine> Is there an IRC channel for android evelopment
[12:50] <gulzar> #android andybrine , ask there
[12:50] <andybrine> I will have a look in the bios soon
[12:50] <lordcirth> andybrine, >50% you just need to turn it on in BIOS.  It's always off by default for some reasion
[12:50] <tojoko> andybrine: netsplit.org
[12:50] <gulzar> lordcirth: chances
[12:51] <andybrine> When I have run the dreaded windows in VM I am sure I could run it
[12:51] <tojoko> andybrine: sorry, i meant http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/
[12:52] <cbfmc> hu
[12:52] <Bent0> I edited grub.cfg and replaced splash quiet with nomodeset. After running update-grub the splash quiet is back. How do I make it persistent
[12:52] <cbfmc> can someone help me to get minitube working on ubuntu 14.04?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> andybrine:  for some reason my virtuakization gets turned off in the bios sometimes , I've never noticed exactly how or when
[12:53] <pandaadb> Hi again :) So I am still trying to get my dell laptop to work and since my bios was up to date, I decided to upgrade the kernel since the release notes say it improves support for dell laptops and my laptop is fairly new
[12:53] <gulzar> Bent0: see correct file to change
[12:53] <andybrine> yea, I can imagine thats a pain
[12:53] <pandaadb> However, when doing that I am getting an error
[12:53] <andybrine> IIve just got back into developing
[12:53] <ikonia> pandaadb: why are you upgrading the kernel ?
[12:53] <Bent0> gulzar: ah, /etc/default/grub
[12:54] <andybrine> #android-os
[12:54] <tojoko> pandaadb: why aren't u just doin' sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[12:54] <pandaadb> I have random freezes ikonia and i can't seem to work them out. I am also seeing issues with regards to my graphics
[12:54] <ikonia> pandaadb: ok - so why are you updating the kernel ?
[12:54] <pandaadb> I did the update/upgrade part as well but I was still on kernel 4.4.
[12:55] <ikonia> why are you upgrading the kernel
[12:55] <OerHeks> grub.cfg is overwritten  when the user runs update-grub.  you want /etc/default/grub
[12:55] <andybrine> Thanks for all your support everyone
[12:55] <cbfmc> anyone?
[12:55] <pandaadb> ikonia, mainly because I am not sure what to do next in terms of trying to get the system to work correctly. I read that "Dell laptop support improvements" and figured that might be a place to start?
[12:55] <pandaadb> Is upgrading the kernel not good?
[12:56] <ikonia> pandaadb: ok - rule one, randomly updating the kernel is not a good idea. rule 2 - upgrading the kernel to a kernel outside the main ubuntu repos is very bad
[12:56] <genutu> Hi, I'd like to use a VPN to access the internet for one terminal, but not for the rest of the computer. I think a virtual machine is the way to go, so I'm looking for recommendations as to the most lightweight virtual machine available, as I'll just be using it to SSH to a remote server and execute commands there.
[12:56] <ikonia> pandaadb: what version of ubuntu are you running
[12:56] <pandaadb> ikonia, 16.04
[12:56] <hateball> cbfmc: what appears to be the problem?
[12:56] <ikonia> pandaadb: ok and what kernel are you currently running
[12:56] <pandaadb> ikonia,  4.4.0-22-generic
[12:57] <pandaadb> I was upgrading to: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/
[12:57] <ikonia> pandaadb: ok - stop that upgrade then
[12:57] <ikonia> pandaadb: remove that repo
[12:57] <pandaadb> oh i did that manually by downloading them and then doing dpkg -i
[12:57] <ikonia> pandaadb: remove that package
[12:57] <pandaadb> so I assume I might need to remove that again
[12:57] <ron__> hello, you know when the nonfree kernel is available on 16.04 ?
[12:58] <ikonia> ron__: what non-free ?
[12:58] <cbfmc> hateball: the application opens but when i search it says error downloading
[12:58] <OerHeks> cbfmc,  just installed it, doesn't work here either
[12:59] <cbfmc> is there anything that we can do?
[12:59] <andybrine> Is anyone here an android developer who can offer some support?
[12:59] <HackerII> try smtube
[12:59] <ikonia> andybrine: no
[12:59] <ikonia> andybrine: you've already been told
[12:59] <andybrine> ikonia actually I havent been told that!
[13:00] <OerHeks> andybrine, try #android
[13:00] <ikonia> andybrine: we do not support android and android development here - we support ubuntu
[13:00] <cbfmc> i've tried smtube and I'm not a big fan of it
[13:00] <ikonia> andybrine: you've been told what IRC channels to use
[13:00] <OerHeks> cbfmc, try vlc, it will need full youtube-adress to play
[13:01] <andybrine> bear with me ikonia I have tried the android irc channels and they are not active. It was just a passing question with the hope someone may have some experience
[13:01] <ikonia> andybrine: no
[13:01] <ikonia> andybrine: we do not support android here - and if the android channels are quiet - thats unfortunate, but not #ubuntu's job to pick up the slack
[13:01] <OerHeks> andybrine, they will be soon, it is nearly friday-evening
[13:02] <pandaadb> ikonia, I have removed the packages.  It was just a question, I know its a Ubuntu IRC. If someone knew and could support then we would go into a private chat. Thanks OerHeks , much appreciated :)
[13:03] <ikonia> they are there for testing and reproducing problems in specific ways to see if it's a problem with the ubuntu kernel or the mainline kernel
[13:03] <pandaadb> ah okay, so they would cause more issues than they would fix I guess
[13:03] <pandaadb> However, if I needed/wanted to get that improved dell laptop support to see if it fixes my graphics and freezing issues, can I get them separately?
[13:03] <ikonia> pandaadb: they may cause zero issue, they may actually make somethings better - but the point is you don't know, and who is going to help you with it - as they are not supported products
[13:04] <ikonia> pandaadb: what improved dell laptops support ?
[13:04] <cbfmc> so no one can help?
[13:04] <ikonia> pandaadb: what makes you think this kernel offers improved dell support
[13:04] <hateball> cbfmc: I've no experience with it, but it's likely it is outdated in 14.04
[13:04] <pandaadb> ikonia, I was reading http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/
[13:04] <pandaadb> And it was listed as one of the features in kernel 4.6
[13:04] <ikonia> pandaadb: so an unofficial site
[13:04] <hateball> cbfmc: since youtube tends to change things around, the minitube in 14.04 is perhaps too ancient
[13:05] <ikonia> pandaadb: the first thing you need to know and understand is what your problems are
[13:05] <ikonia> pandaadb: until you know that it's pointless trying to fix
[13:05] <hateball> cbfmc: so you can try an out-of-repo package from their homepage I suppose, or file a bug on launchpad for the packaged version
[13:06] <pandaadb> ikonia, I agree. I am having troubles identifying that though. I was pointed to: http://superuser.com/questions/1080678/ubuntu-16-04-laptop-hanging-requires-powercycle before. That guy seems to have the same issues i do, but his solution (bios update) is not viable for me since I am on the latest version
[13:07] <ikonia> pandaadb: hang a moment please
[13:07] <pandaadb> of course, thank you
[13:07] <ikonia> pandaadb: ok - just had to finish typing something
[13:08] <ikonia> pandaadb: so talk to me at a high level about your problems
[13:08] <ikonia> pandaadb: you're running 16.04 on a dell laptop and your main problem is....
[13:10] <eein> is there a gui way to delete raid devices when installing ubuntu server or do I just need to use mdadm?
[13:10] <pandaadb> ikonia, Okay. There are 2, the one I consider more imporant is that my Laptop randomly freezes "sometimes". This happens most often when I lock it and try to log back in, or when I put it to sleep and later try to start it up again. There is no reaction of any input (including USB keyboard + mouse). I am seeing a purple background without anything else. I can not switch to a terminal with any shortcuts I know.  The relevant log (i believe) is http://paste.
[13:10] <pandaadb> ubuntu.com/17168796/
[13:11] <eein> I can delete partitions but the onlyt option for raid devices seems to be "do not use"
[13:11] <pandaadb> The other one I posted in the forums which has something to do with the nvidia grahics. I documented as much as I can here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2327162&p=13500945#post13500945
[13:11] <ikonia> pandaadb: let me have a little read, it may take a few minutes
[13:12] <pandaadb> absolutely, thanks
[13:12] <ikonia> pandaadb: what video card is in your dell, I see the intel one, is there an nvidia one too, or just the intel one
[13:12] <pandaadb> ikonia, there is also an nvidia one
[13:13] <ikonia> pandaadb: do you have it dynamically switching between the two or have you disabled one
[13:14] <pandaadb> ikonia, i think that is the relevant output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17169865/ . I have disabled NVIDIA in the NVIDIA X Server (meaning I enabled Intel Power Saving Mode) because that improved the graphics
[13:14] <ikonia> pandaadb: so to debug this - the first thing I would do is disable one of the card (most likley the nvidia) in the bios
[13:14] <ikonia> just for testing
[13:15] <ikonia> the swapping/optiums video chips are known to have problems on linux in some situations, so lets remove that if possible
[13:15] <ikonia> pandaadb: most devices have an option in the bios to disable swapping / disable a specific video card, see if yours does
[13:16] <pandaadb> ikonia, okay i'll do that now. I'll be back in a minute
[13:16] <ikonia> pandaadb: this is not a solution - this is just debugging, so don't worry
[13:16] <tn> hello
[13:16] <pandaadb> okay
[13:16] <pandaadb> i'll disable nvidia now
[13:23] <pandaadb_> ikonia, hi - I checked in the BIOS and there is no option to disable or enable a specific graphics chip
[13:23] <ikonia> pandaadb_: thats dissapointing
[13:23] <pandaadb_> I am googling for info on that and it appears that is just the way the dell bios comes
[13:24] <ikonia> pandaadb_: thats fine, not all of them have it
[13:24] <ikonia> pandaadb_: we'll have to "black list" the nvidia component then
[13:25] <ikonia> the current nvidia modules support the optiums chipset I think the current product is called nvidia-prime
[13:25] <ikonia> (someone correct me ??)
[13:26] <pandaadb_> do you mean the drivers for that?
[13:26] <ikonia> pandaadb_: can you launch nvidia-settings /
[13:26] <ikonia> ?
[13:26] <pandaadb_> yes
[13:27] <ikonia> is there an option to disable either card in there ?
[13:27] <pandaadb_> actually, that might be it? it shows: "Select the GPU you would like to use
[13:27] <ikonia> pandaadb_: ok - so lets approach methodically
[13:27] <ikonia> pandaadb_: lets just use intel for now
[13:27] <pandaadb_> I already chose the "Intel (Power Saving Mode)" - that was my "fix" for the graphics
[13:27] <ikonia> pandaadb_: how has that worked as a fix
[13:28] <pandaadb_> ikonia, it has for the laggy video, laggy scrolling and pixeling, the terminal not keeping up with my typing etc
[13:28] <pandaadb_> It has not fixed the system crashing unfortunately
[13:28] <ikonia> interesting
[13:28] <ikonia> swap it to just nvidi
[13:28] <ikonia> nvidia
[13:28] <pandaadb_> yeah, i thought that was weird too
[13:29] <tallyman> can anyone help me? After having problems with my battery indicator I tried this http://askubuntu.com/a/618517 and now my laptop stays at a grey screen after booting up and I can't even do ctrl+alt+F1 for terminal
[13:29] <pandaadb_> I have done that, I'll need to log in/out
[13:29] <pandaadb_> I will be right back
[13:33] <tallyman> can anyone help me? After having problems with my battery indicator I tried this http://askubuntu.com/a/618517 and now my laptop stays at a grey screen after booting up and I can't even do ctrl+alt+F1 for terminal
[13:33] <hateball> pandaadb: while not supported, you may want to consider a newer nvidia driver from ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:34] <hateball> pandaadb: if you have very new hardware, the 361 driver is a bit... not new
[13:35] <pandaadb> ikonia, hi - logging out crashed the laptop. 2 of my screen were not showing anything, the 3rd one said something along the lines of:  file {someNumber}  /blocks/free: {someNumber} (not exactly that but I couldn't copy it sadly). I had to hard powercycle it. It then did start up, however there was a warning popup before I logged in even about monitor configurations. I am now back to the laggy screen/typing/scrolling
[13:36] <bisu> May I know how much GB will be the update from 15.10 to 16.04?
[13:36] <pandaadb> hateball, i am in deed at version 361. When I tried to manually install the NVIDIA driver the last time (i was on ubuntu 14 though) after the install, the computer would not start up anymore. It would also switch back and forth between terminal windows and warning prints, so I could not switch into the normal terminal to purge the drivers. That was when I upgraded to ubuntu 16.04 since there was nothing left for me to do but wipe the system
[13:37] <pandaadb> hateball, there is a very good chance that I did the install wrong though as i had not done that before
[13:37] <hateball> pandaadb: well you can always boot into single mode (recovery) which should let you switch/remove drivers if that's the case
[13:37] <hateball> pandaadb: did you install them from nvidias website? That'd be wrong
[13:37] <bisu> Guys.... anyone know  how much GB will be the update from 15.10 to 16.04?
[13:38] <pandaadb> hateball, yes i downloaded them from the nvidia website, made the file executable and ran the install script
[13:38] <hateball> bisu: the upgrader will tell you before it downloads, it all depends on how much you've got installed
[13:38] <bisu> In my case it is not
[13:39] <pandaadb> hateball, is there a repository for the latest drivers? using apt-get i could only get to v 361.42
[13:39] <bisu> It just starts downloading
[13:39] <hateball> pandaadb: I just linked you to it, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:40] <pandaadb> oh that is the repository? So i can add that to the repos and use apt-get for the install?
[13:40] <hateball> pandaadb: yes
[13:40] <pandaadb> Should I purge the old drivers first?
[13:40] <hateball> pandaadb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-367
[13:40] <hateball> pandaadb: no need, they'll get removed by apt
[13:40] <pandaadb> ah okay
[13:40] <pandaadb> i shall try that then :) thanks
[13:40] <hateball> pandaadb: and if 367 fails, reboot single/recovery and apt-get install nvidia-364, or whatever
[13:41] <pandaadb> hateball, did you mean 367? The link you sent said that 364 is building, while 367 is not
[13:41] <ikonia> pandaadb: it's really starting to sound like the nvidia side of the house is the problem
[13:41] <hateball> pandaadb: I use 367 myself, altho not on a hybrid gpu machine
[13:42] <hateball> pandaadb: yes it failed for armhf. which you most likely are not running
[13:42] <pandaadb> ikonia, I thought so as well, but I was under the impression that I was on the latest driver version. I didn't realise there were newer ones.
[13:42] <pandaadb> I will attempt to install the latest drivers then
[13:42] <pandaadb> ikonia, are you interested in the syslog for the crash after I switch the graphics driver?
[13:43] <pandaadb> It is quite a handfull but I can create a paste if there is useful info in there
[13:44] <bisu> My case is like this: https://youtu.be/udjjJO0IQTI?t=72   .... no update size is shown
[13:44] <bisu> 15.10 -> 16.04
[13:44] <Hulio> what is the different between 'dir' and 'ls'    when i do dir, i saw white text, while ls give me colorful text base on file type
[13:44] <Hulio> right?
[13:45] <Hulio> i forgot how to do shut down via command?
[13:46] <Hulio> i want to turn of ubuntu, is there command to do shut down?
[13:46] <Hulio> i know there is 'sudo reboot'
[13:46] <bisu> @Hulio shutdown time
[13:46] <Hulio> what?
[13:46] <davem_> Hulio: sudo shutdown -h now
[13:46] <Hulio> oh
[13:47] <Hulio> i recalled i didn't do -h
[13:47] <Hulio> maybe there is alternate command?
[13:47] <Aterfax> Does anyone know of a SSH program that I can have multiple connections open in which I can duplicate the commands?
[13:48] <bisu> Anyone upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04
[13:48] <pandaadb> alright hateball it is installed, I switched it in "additonal drivers". I'll restart and if I come back up, I'll be back in a minute :)
[13:48] <hateball> Aterfax: Konsole in KDE Plasma lets you send same command to multiple tabs
[13:48] <hateball> Aterfax: otherwise there is clusterssh
[13:48] <Aterfax> Unfortunately I am in winblows at the moment ;_;
[13:48] <Aterfax> Work PC
[13:48] <eein> Aterfax, or reading a script
[13:48] <hateball> Aterfax: so ask in ##windows
[13:49] <Hulio> is redhat any better then ubuntu?
[13:49] <bisu> Have anyone upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04
[13:49] <Aterfax> I do have both you know. I do want to do this at home too.
[13:49] <eein> probably ##windows-server is better
[13:49] <Hulio> also, is redhat better in user friendly then ubuntu?
[13:49] <eein> Hulio, better. Redhat has enterprise support contracts
[13:49] <Hulio> oh
[13:50] <bisu> :D :D Did anyone upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04
[13:50] <eein> sorry I meant better? as in that is completely subjective
[13:50] <bisu> OK. any tips on getting some help on an irc with 1962 users?
[13:50] <rbasak> Aterfax: fanout and fanterm are pretty neat.
[13:50] <Aterfax> Cheers fellas
[13:51] <16WAAELQZ> hateball, ikonia the 367 driver *appears* to have fixed the graphic issues with NVIDIA card enabled
[13:51] <davem_> Hulio: sudo reboot -p
[13:51] <pandaadb> sorry - my username changed
[13:51]  * pandaadb starts thor on netflix for tests :D
[13:51] <eein> you can also do puppet, ansible, chef... Aterfax. depending on what you are doing
[13:52] <pandaadb> hm, no there is still a light flickering using that driver as well
[13:55] <pandaadb> Oh - I also just saw, i am not sure if that is important or not, but one of the previous crashes created /var/crash/nvidia-361.0.crash
[13:56] <hateball> pandaadb: what manner of flickering?
[13:56] <spaceship> Hello everyone I have a question about seveur ftp ... I downloaded filzila and wondered if the internal FTP server can contain an amount of gigabytes or not
[13:57] <hateball> pandaadb: Is all of Unity flickering (I dont use Unity) or is it in certain apps, etc?
[13:57] <pandaadb> hateball, I think it is improved, but not all gone. The two i can see is: when scrolling a big wikipida page with chrome, the redraw looks like a wave kind of, You can kind of see how the page is redrawn
[13:57] <xafarderr> anybody uses gnome flashback?
[13:57] <hateball> ah yes
[13:57] <scrappy_duce> how do i enable wifi on boot for ubuntu 16.04, ppl suggest using the gui wifi app and checking off allow all users
[13:57] <pandaadb> with netflix it is the same, however it's not as much of a wave as more like "forgotten" pixels. I think that is due to the nature of it being a movie rather than a static page that moves up and down
[13:58] <hateball> pandaadb: I dont know if Unity has an option to unredirect fullscreen windows, but it should
[13:58] <xafarderr> scrappy_duce, install drivers in additional controls
[13:58] <Hulio> is it posible to have ubuntu auto login?
[13:59] <Hulio> i don't really want to enter password
[13:59] <spaceship> Hello everyone j'ais a question about seveur ftp ... I downloaded filzila and wondered if the internal FTP server can contain an amount of gigabytes or not
[13:59] <xafarderr> of course Hulio
[13:59] <xafarderr> it is possible
[13:59] <pandaadb> hateball, also that is reproducable on both external screen and the laptop screen. I am not sure what unredirect fullscreen windows means
[13:59] <hateball> pandaadb: otherwise a better solution is ForceCompositionPipeLine
[13:59] <Hulio> show and tell?
[13:59] <yeats> Hulio: go to Users and see the Automatic Login setting
[13:59] <hateball> pandaadb: are you using multiple monitors now?
[14:00] <scrappy_duce> drivers have been installed and i confirmed they are working
[14:00] <pandaadb> hateball, yes. 2 external screen, one connected via hdmi to DVI, the other is displayport which is connected to the laptop via firebolt
[14:00] <scrappy_duce> "additional controls" please explain
[14:00] <hateball> pandaadb: try this command and see if it helps: nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"
[14:00] <hateball> pandaadb: I am not entirely sure if it is bulletproof with multiple monitors or if it needs adjusting
[14:00] <xafarderr> sorry scrappy_duce i'm newbie too
[14:01] <pandaadb> hateball, i also have the CompizConfig installed which i believe has advanced options for graphics
[14:01] <pandaadb> i'll try your command
[14:02] <scrappy_duce> i have a legacy laptop with 8 GB of ram, i have 2 wifi cards installed, the plan is to run VBox and have both cards automatically connect at boot before logging in
[14:02] <pandaadb> hateball, does it need a restart?
[14:02] <hateball> pandaadb: no it is instant
[14:02] <scrappy_duce> any suggestions on how to accomplish this?
[14:02] <hateball> pandaadb: it should be a slight flicker when it applies is all
[14:03] <spaceship> Hello everyone j'ais a question about seveur ftp ... I downloaded filzila and wondered if the internal FTP server can contain an amount of gigabytes or not
[14:04] <hateball> pandaadb: if it works well, you can either run that command in a loginscript, or apply it globally using xorg.conf
[14:04] <pandaadb> hateball, no it seems to still be slightly flickering. I did think that it was a bit better on netflix, but I may have been staring too long
[14:04] <hateball> pandaadb: other than that... I don't really know, since I dont run Unity. I have no tearing issues under kde plasma after said tweaks at any rate
[14:04] <lerner> how do I get rid of text in a picture?
[14:05] <rany> spaceship: Oui il peut
[14:05] <pandaadb> hateball, was that the option for unredirect fullscreen windows?
[14:06] <spaceship> il peut avoir une capacité infinit sur ?
[14:06] <pandaadb> I read that people recommend doing "Force full screen redraws (buffer swap) on repaint"
[14:06] <hateball> pandaadb: no that applies a kind of v-sync on a global scale, so you can avoid doing it for unity or individual programs. it is less resource costly
[14:07] <hateball> pandaadb: there are options for triple buffer as well. I suggest googling for "fix nvidia tearing" or some such. I have to go now, good luck
[14:07] <rany> spaceship bien sur
[14:07] <spaceship> d'accords
[14:07] <spaceship> merci :)
[14:07] <Hulio> ok, i added the 'folder shared' in vmware,   how to access the shared folder i name 'D'  in ubuntu
[14:07] <Hulio> can someone help me?
[14:08] <Hulio> i'm in vmware guest as ubuntu, i setup shared folder of the host folder with the name 'D' ..how can i access that folder in ubuntu?
[14:08] <Hulio> Guys, please help me.
[14:09] <Slartibart> #join ##php
[14:09] <Hulio> please help.
[14:10] <rany> Hulio: I think it is better to ask a vmware channel
[14:10] <rany> Hulio: I use VBox
[14:10] <Hulio> why is it vmware channel? this is ubuntu..i need access the folder
[14:11] <fenyx81> Hi Hulio, searching the web shows this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-share-folders-with-your-ubuntu-virtual-machine-guest/
[14:11] <rany> there is a channnel for vmware just join #vmware
[14:12] <In4rtia> Hulio: Or try #linux
[14:12] <Hulio> p@p:~$ modprobe vmhgfs
[14:12] <Hulio> modprobe: FATAL: Module vmhgfs not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-24-generic
[14:13] <fenyx81> Hulio: another solution here first link wasn't enough > http://askubuntu.com/questions/29284/how-do-i-mount-shared-folders-in-ubuntu-using-vmware-tools
[14:13] <fenyx81> *if first
[14:13] <Icerobot> Hi, I have an old desktop with a 1TB HDD. I want to turn it into a file server using Samba. Should I install Ubuntu desktop on it or just Ubuntu server will suffice?
[14:15] <fenyx81> @Icerobot, core server will be enough, no need for interface (technically speaking)
[14:15] <geurt> does anyone has experience with ssl-crl  certificate revocation in mysql?
[14:15] <Icerobot> fenyx81 can you help me find a guide/tutorial to do this, most of the tutorials assume you have ubuntu desktop, which i dont have
[14:15] <Icerobot> i just have the server edition
[14:16] <FeersumEndjinn> Icerobot: If you're comfortable at the commandline, I'd say go for ubuntu-server
[14:17] <fenyx81> @Icerobot: Do you really have to use Ubuntu? If not have a look to Nethserver, it could be easier
[14:17] <fenyx81> (based on CentOs so it's different but their team did a great job for CLI beginners)
[14:17] <brunch875> Hey, I want to enable E+I sysrq in REISUB for those times in which systemd gets stuck on shutdown. Is there anyone here who wants to discourage me from doing this?
[14:19] <akik> Icerobot: samba is basically configuring /etc/samba/smb.conf and maybe adding an encrypted password with smbpasswd
[14:19] <fenyx81> @Icerobot: Ubuntu Server Guide available here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/serverguide.pdf
[14:20] <fenyx81> @Icerobot: this could be useful too https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ldap.html
[14:21] <fenyx81> @Icerobot https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[14:22] <lerner> on starting up ubuntu the laptop stopped on a process. I had to turn the laptop off and restart... why did that happen?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> lerner  on what process?
[14:24] <lerner> MonkeyDust, sorry, I didnt jot it down...
[14:24] <lerner> it just reached loading something and stopped
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> lerner  the nature of the error may contain the beginning of a solution
[14:25] <lerner> aagh
[14:25] <Hulio> fenyx81, i got the folder in ubuntu..thanks.... is there a way to create shortcut and put it on desktop?  it is located ~\mnt\hgfs\D
[14:26] <Hulio> can someone tell me how to create a folder shorthut and put on dektop?  this way i double click will open a folder without having ot navigate it
[14:27] <katerina_> Hey! I 'am on xenial with 4.4.0-21-generic, and I have the following issue; in cgroup namespaces there a field 'nsroot' that didn't exist in older kernels (was introduced with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1560489 i guess) and due to this I am having problems, with checkpoint linux containers. Any idea how to remove this nsroot? pls let me know if more info is needed.
[14:27] <Hulio> wow no answer
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> Hulio  ln -s -r [folder] ~/Desktop/
[14:28] <Hulio> oh
[14:28] <Hulio> thanks
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> Hulio  and you waited only a few seconds before saying 'no answer'
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> Hulio  give people time to read and type
[14:29] <Hulio> MonkeyDust, works perfectly ...u're smart and best
[14:33] <zenguy> why are these upgrades downloaded but not installed: linux-generic, linux-headers-generic etc?
[14:33] <spaceship> I can put my FTP local in  server FTP online ?
[14:34] <zenguy> if it's a kernel update it should install right?
[14:34] <zenguy> unless my system is borked?
[14:35] <FeersumEndjinn> Kernel updates are not automaitcally installed using apt get upgrade
[14:35] <zenguy> oh what's the procedure to install them?
[14:35] <blinkyb> Paddy_NI: the problem with 'incorrect login', i guess i need to reinstall the entire system again, thats the only solution
[14:35] <FeersumEndjinn> kernel upgrades often require a reboot as well, so you can imagine why that is not exactly something you want to do without forward planning
[14:35] <zenguy> i mean i downloaded them i'm assuming conical wants them installed
[14:36] <fenyx81> @zenguy: replace the upgrade argument with dist-upgrade
[14:36] <zenguy> ooh for 16.04 to 16.10?
[14:36] <zenguy> hmm not sure i want to do that hehe
[14:37] <fenyx81> no, this is not kernel update but version update that you want
[14:37] <fenyx81> 16.10 is Beta, are you sure that you want to upgrade to Beta release?
[14:37] <julian_> any samba users who use 16.04 ubuntu? I tried to install gui but when I try to open it, it does nothing
[14:37] <zenguy> but i like 16.04 it works great :)
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> zenguy  dist-upgrade is not the same as 'release upgrade'
[14:38] <zenguy> oh ok :) thanks for clarifying that MonkeyDust :)
[14:38] <julian_> i installed the system-config-samba package
[14:38] <zenguy> and thanks fenyx81
[14:38] <fenyx81> @zenguy: v16.10 = the version that will be released in October 2016 ;)
[14:38] <aspide> film
[14:38] <fenyx81> I think you should stay in 16.04 for now
[14:39] <zenguy> sounds sound :)
[14:40] <julian_> anyone?
[14:40] <fenyx81> @zenguy you're welcome, it's funny that I came here first to find help too. That's the magic of Linux community
[14:41] <zenguy> :) true
[14:41] <zenguy> ty :)
[14:42] <fenyx81> @julian I'm not such an expert but you could try to ask in the #samba channel
[14:42] <fenyx81> found it there: https://www.samba.org/samba/irc.html
[14:42] <julian_> oh cool thanks I'll take a look
[14:43] <julian_> also is it possible to disable those UI animations in MATE? they lag out my poor 1GB raspberry pi....
[14:43] <julian_> such as minimise, maximise etc
[14:44] <fenyx81> @julian: would this be good? http://www.matrix44.net/blog/?p=1170
[14:46] <fenyx81> @julian: Or check the 'nofixedip' user's answer here: forums.mate-desktop.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=112
[14:46] <fenyx81> seems to be more precise
[14:46] <fenyx81> never used MATE sorry
[14:46] <fenyx81> :)
[14:47] <julian_> yeah the dconf-editor worked well
[14:47] <lerner> 2GiB of ram just disappeared...
[14:47] <fenyx81> @julian glad to know :)
[14:47] <lerner> nowhere in htop to be seen
[14:47] <julian_> I installed ubuntu on here since I'm more familiar with it than raspbian lol
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> lerner  http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[14:49] <zotherstupidguy> greetings, i am trying to map capslock to an extra ctrl key
[14:50] <zotherstupidguy> used gnome-tweak-tool and it just doesnt reflect the change even after restart, is there a way to do this differntly?
[14:51] <kshenoy> zotherstupidguy: use setxkbmap
[14:52] <fenyx81> @zotherstupidguy: as kshenoy said try "setxkbmap -layout us -option ctrl:nocaps" replacing us with your language. (source: http://www.noah.org/wiki/CapsLock_Remap_Howto)
[14:53] <kshenoy> fenyx81: Thx. I was trying to find the option name
[14:53] <xitroka> What is the different between linux-generic package and linux-generic-lts-(CODENAME) ?
[14:53] <zotherstupidguy> setxkbmap -layout us -option ctrl:nocaps
[14:53] <zotherstupidguy> that did the job
[14:53] <fenyx81> great :)
[14:53] <zotherstupidguy> thanks :)
[14:53] <fenyx81> very welcome
[14:54] <auronandace|work> xitroka: the lts ones are more recent kernels that have been backported for use with your lts release, this is part of the hardware enablement stack for lts
[14:54] <auronandace|work> !hwe | xitroka
[14:54] <kshenoy> zotherstupidguy: ctrl:nocaps will make your caps lock into an additional control. You can also use ctrl:swapcaps to swap LCtrl and CapsLock
[14:55] <auronandace|work> xitroka: the linux-generic package is the default kernel release for that particular ubuntu release
[14:56] <xitroka> thanks, so if i don't want to get too much update on kernel, i should stay with generic one, am i right?
[14:57] <fenyx81> I need some help with Ubuntu relationship with Grub2. Made long text block to avoid being cut, sorry for readability. *****Before installing Ubuntu***** my laptop contained only Linux Mint, so Grub2 was managed by Mint at that time. I wanted to make a smooth switch of my apps from old system to the new one by keeping both systems in dual boot for some time. *****My config now***** ext2 boot partition on sda1, ext4 Linux Mint system o
[14:57] <auronandace|work> xitroka: all of them will receive updates in the form of bug fixes, if you don't need certain hardware support in more recent kernels then it is fine to stick with the generic one
[14:58] <xitroka> thank you :)
[14:58] <fenyx81> same player try again
[14:58] <fenyx81> I need some help with Ubuntu relationship with Grub2. Made long text block to avoid being cut, sorry for readability. *****Before installing Ubuntu***** my laptop contained only Linux Mint, so Grub2 was managed by Mint at that time. I wanted to make a smooth switch of my apps from old system to the new one by keeping both systems in dual boot for some time. *****My config now***** ext2 boot partition on sda1, ext4 Linux Mint system o
[14:58] <fenyx81> Ubuntu-Gnome on sda3 (ext4 too). During install I've formatted sda1 and set it to be used as Ubuntu-Gnome's /boot partition. I've also set Grub to be installed to sda. *****The Issue***** Now when my laptop boot I can see the new Ubuntu entry with its advanced options, and memory check entries, but no more Linux Mint.
[14:58] <fenyx81> It could happen after any installation so I thought it was as easy to solve as usual but even if I "sudo update-grub" from ubuntu-gnome the output says "Found Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa (17.3) on /dev/sda2" and nothing new appears among Grub menu entries.
[14:58] <fenyx81> [end]
[14:59] <Myrtti> fenyx81: you got cut off because your first paragraph is too long. Have you asked in Ask Ubuntu? it might work better for long format questions than IRC
[14:59] <nacc> fenyx81: so you have two OSes and they shared sda1 as boot?
[15:00] <fenyx81> so I'm not able to but my primary system on sda2 now. That's why I need help :)
[15:00] <fenyx81> *boot
[15:00] <nacc> fenyx81: and you formatted sda1 during the install of Ubuntu Gnome?
[15:01] <fenyx81> yes, I was on the way to forget but Ubuntu installer reminded me when I clicked "continue" button :)
[15:01] <matrium> hi, can someone tell me why my 'find . -name ".gitignore" -exec echo ".classpath" >> {} \;' command creates a file {} instead of using it as a variable?
[15:01] <fenyx81> so sda1 formatted to ext4 and set as /boot
[15:01] <fenyx81> ext2 sorry
[15:02] <nacc> fenyx81: to confirm again, you had Mint, with /dev/sda1 as /boot, You installed Ubuntu Gnome also using /dev/sda1 as /boot (and formatted /dev/sda1 in the process)?
[15:02] <ducasse> fenyx81: so you formatted mint's /boot partition - those files will be gone now.
[15:03] <nacc> fenyx81: if that is right, you'll need to recover mint
[15:03] <nacc> but it seems like a bad idea to have two OSes share a /boot
[15:03] <nacc> unless you knew to at least double the default size during the first install
[15:04] <fenyx81> shit, I thought it was a good trick. lol  But now that you tell me it's so f****** obvious. It was late night, i will take it as excuse haha
[15:04] <ducasse> fenyx81: besides, if mint won't boot you need to get help in a mint channel.
[15:04] <nacc> fenyx81: :)
[15:05] <fenyx81> Thank you all for filling the hole in my brain. Fortunately I am a Clonezilla user who took the time to backup the whole disk before install
[15:05] <fenyx81> I will manage with it. thanks again
[15:06] <auronandace|work> a refreshing change to see people do actually make backups
[15:06] <nerium> What am I missing? ”/usr/bin/env source /home/linus/.zshrc” # => ”/usr/bin/env: source: No such file or directory” ?
[15:07] <nerium> Why isn’t ”source” found?
[15:07] <nacc> nerium: source isn't a command, it's a shell builtin
[15:07] <nerium> nacc: Aha, okay
[15:07] <nacc> nerium: so just `source /home/linus/.zshrc` or `. /home/linus/.zshrc`
[15:07] <nerium> nacc: The deploy tool i’m using us prefixing everything with /usr/bin/env so can’t run just that
[15:08] <ouroumov_> Guys, can anyone with Firefox 47 load this page without a "Secure Connection Failed" message at the end? https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/06/10/1350245/visual-studio-2015-c-compiler-secretly-inserts-telemetry-code-into-binaries#comments
[15:08] <nacc> nerium: .... that seems like a bad tool :)
[15:08] <enesgunce> hi
[15:08] <nerium> nacc: Capistrano and chef
[15:09] <fenyx81> @ouroumov yup no problem here, and my Ubuntu and Firefox are installed since a few hours, so it's a fresh config
[15:09] <enesgunce> kardo
[15:09] <enesgunce> kardo
[15:09] <enesgunce> kardo
[15:09] <goker> Ooo kardeşim
[15:09] <fenyx81> means problem is in your profile
[15:09] <enesgunce> amk
[15:09] <ouroumov_> fenyx81, thanks
[15:09] <enesgunce> amk
[15:09] <enesgunce> :D
[15:09] <enesgunce> türkler nede
[15:09] <enesgunce> =?
[15:09] <enesgunce> bellli edin kendinizi
[15:09] <enesgunce> :D
[15:09] <nacc> !tr | enesgunce
[15:10] <enesgunce> yok
[15:10] <enesgunce> sağolun
[15:10] <enesgunce> burası
[15:10] <enesgunce> iyi
[15:12] <linux_> selam
[15:12] <ouroumov_> fenyx81, I'm seeing this error on two machines, the only thing I added to firefox is uBlock Origin
[15:13] <ouroumov_> fenyx81, the page load, then I thing at the end the javascript tries to pull something, and when it fails to do so securely, the page blanks with that unhelpful error message and I don't know how to get more info on it :/
[15:18] <fenyx81> @ouroumov I did just see a privacy warning BEFORE the page load. I clicked to "continue anyway" or something like that then page loaded. Now if I reload it the notification doesn't show anymore.
[15:18] <fenyx81> I have only one addon in firefox: ublock origin, so I disabled it to be sure and tried again : no error or issue
[15:20] <amiy> postgresql-contrib : depends: postgresql-contrib-9.3 but it is not going to be installed
[15:20] <amiy> anyone help here plz
[15:20] <fenyx81> @ouroumov If I press F12 key I can read this in the console: "A call to document.write() from an asynchronously-loaded external script was ignored." Maybe it has not been ignored on your side and it causes the issue?
[15:22] <fenyx81> Ok. bye everyone. Keep up the love to the community. Luv you all!
[15:23] <ouroumov_> fenyx81, my theory was that one third-party loaded script was calling something triggering the secure connection error and that firefox was blanking the whole page instead of just stopping that connection to another domain
[15:28] <llusato> hello I have a dell inspiron 15 3521 with bluetooth. Before in Ubuntu 14.04 it worked but now in Ubuntu 16.04 I can't get it to work. Any suggestions?
[15:28] <llusato> Many thanks! :)
[15:30] <llusato> sometimes I can enable it and sometimes detects my device but never could pair it
[15:33] <cucumber> Hello
[15:33] <cucumber> I just switched from CentOS to Ubuntu server and realized it was installing updates automatically even though I chose "no" during the setup. It seems that unattended-upgrades is on by default.... why is this the case?
[15:38] <ducasse> i didn't think server installs updates automatically, but ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:40] <cucumber> I'll do that ducasse. Thanks
[15:40] <abhishek__> hi guys!
[15:40] <abhishek__> Skype audio not working in 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/785338/skype-audio-not-working-in-16-04
[15:41] <samuel02> could anyone point me to a some documentation on how to install qt 5.5 on an ubuntu 14.04 server?
[15:42] <samuel02> if I run sudo apt-get install -y qt5-default libqt5webkit5-dev
[15:42] <samuel02> I get 5.2
[15:42] <nacc> abhishek__: i don't think it sees a microphone
[15:42] <samuel02> and every tutorial I find seem to rely on a GUI
[15:42] <abhishek__> Please help, trying since long to fix. :)
[15:42] <nacc> abhishek__: i don't believe a monitor is a microphone (note i don't see the mic icon in the pulse GUI)
[15:42] <ducasse> samuel02: if you need a newer qt you should upgrade.
[15:42] <samuel02> ducasse, upgrade ubuntu?
[15:42] <ducasse> samuel02: yes.
[15:43] <samuel02> ducasse: problem is it's on a CI server that I don't control :S
[15:43] <samuel02> otherwise I would
[15:43] <samuel02> so there's no easy way of installing it on 14.04?
[15:43] <pandaadb> Hi - I seem to be running into a tearing bug with Nvidia M1000M (QM107GLM) and Ubuntu 16.04. I have tried a few suggestions but I was wondering if someone here might have some more inside. So far nothing has worked for me sadly
[15:43] <nacc> samuel02: 5.5 is only on 16.04 and on, it seems
[15:44] <nacc> samuel02: you could look in PPAs, but then ... you're in PPAs
[15:44] <ducasse> samuel02: 14.04 is two years old, of course it doesn't have the latest software. otherwise you need to find a ppa that has 5.5, but those are unsupported.
[15:44] <pandaadb> Things I tried include changing the /etc/X11 config, changing the Nvidia drivers, apply nvidia setting recommendations I found online
[15:44] <nacc> samuel02: or you could try copying it from 16.04 to 14.04 in your own ppa, but then you're not getting updates, etc.
[15:45] <samuel02> ducasse, nacc: do any of you know how/where to find a ppa with 5.5?
[15:45] <ducasse> samuel02: look at ppa.launchpad.net or use google.
[15:45] <samuel02> ok, thanks :)
[15:46] <abhishek__> nacc, okay, but there is an internal mic I record from it using kwave.
[15:47] <abhishek__> any suggestions folks?
[15:47] <ducasse> samuel02: but ppa's are *unsupported* and can be a security risk.
[15:47] <samuel02> ducasse: ok
[15:47] <nacc> abhishek__: is that listed under 'recording' ?
[15:48] <samuel02> ducasse: is there any good way of evaluating the security of a particular ppa?
[15:48] <ducasse> samuel02: no.
[15:48] <samuel02> ok
[15:49] <ducasse> samuel02: either you trust the person who provides the packages or you don't.
[15:49] <samuel02> ok
[15:50] <nacc> samuel02: nothing provided by ubuntu in 14.04 should require qt5.5 -- so i assume this is some external code?
[15:52] <llusato> hello! anybody can help me with bluetooth problem in Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:52] <samuel02> nacc: yes
[15:53] <samuel02> nacc: it's actually quite far fetched, I need qt to run capybara-webkit which is a ruby driver for running selenium tests in webkit with ruby
[15:53] <samuel02> and all this runs on SemaphoreCI
[15:53] <nacc> gross :)
[15:53] <samuel02> yes
[15:53] <samuel02> :)
[15:53] <ducasse> samuel02: when you use a ppa you essentially give a third party the ability to run code as root on your machine.
[15:53] <samuel02> ducasse: I understand..
[15:56] <samuel02> ducasse: so would it be possible to add a ppa for 16.04 to install 5.5 ?
[15:57] <ducasse> samuel02: no, the ppa would be for 14.04
[15:57] <samuel02> ok..
[15:58] <ducasse> samuel02: the 16.04 packages may break other things. of course, the ppa can also do that since it's unofficial, but the packages would have been built for 14.04.
[15:59] <effectnet> --
[15:59] <justs> have a nice day
[15:59] <effectnet> hello.l  what is a clean way to shut down the firefox now, it's frozened.
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> effectnet  alt-f2 > xkill
[16:00] <effectnet> k
[16:00] <samuel02> ducasse: since I don't seem to find any good ppa:s my only option would be to build it from scratch or convince SemaphoreCI to upgrade their servers?
[16:01] <ducasse> samuel02: try getting source packages for 5.5 and build those.
[16:02] <nacc> samuel02: right you could copy the pacakge to a PPA (iirc) directly between series; but it might not build (depends on its ... deps)
[16:02] <Dontclicklinks> http://goo.gl/iFqDKY what does this issue mean?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> Dontclicklinks  what is that and how is it ubuntu related
[16:05] <llusato> hello I have bluetooth problem in ubuntu 16.04 but in 14.04 it worked perfecly. Any suggestions to fix it?
[16:05] <rp2> Dontclicklinks, nice idea! but it's not an issue and not Ubuntu-specific so it doesn't belong here
[16:08] <ducasse> samuel02: first hit on google: https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu
[16:09] <scrappy_duce> if a system has 2 network adapters does that mean it has 2 hosts
[16:09] <curlyears> heigh hough
[16:09] <scrappy_duce> i have 2 adapters but how to i modify the hosts file per adapter
[16:12] <ducasse> samuel02: or https://launchpad.net/~alex-p/+archive/ubuntu/qt-5.5.1
[16:12] <tmess> i am using a friend's machine and ssh <ip xx> shows the error: /usr/local/bin/corkscrew: No such file or directory
[16:12] <tmess> any remedies?
[16:12] <subsume> why does ubuntu contain so many packages that don't do what they say they do
[16:12] <subsume> aka https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/python-opencv
[16:12] <arca_vorago> Ok, so I have been on 16.04 for a while, on a 2014 macbook pro, with 3 external monitors (two thunderbolt, one hdmi) the display setup was working just fine until one of the updates last week, and suddenly one of the thunderbolt monitors refuses to display... any ideas?
[16:12] <subsume> can i just file a one word bug "Doesn't" ?
[16:13] <nacc> subsume: what doesn't it do?
[16:13] <nacc> !pm | llusato
[16:13] <subsume> nacc: it doesn't create any bindings between python and opencv of course
[16:13] <subsume> nacc: installing it and then import cv2 gives you an ImportError
[16:14] <nacc> /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cv.py
[16:14] <nacc>  /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cv.py
[16:14] <llusato> ubottu: Ok
[16:14] <nacc> subsume: given it's called cv.py and not cv2.py ... are you sure you're using the right import line?
[16:14] <llusato> nacc: hello I have a dell inspiron 15 3521 with bluetooth. Before in Ubuntu 14.04 it worked but now in Ubuntu 16.04 I can't get it to work. Any suggestions?
[16:15] <subsume> nacc: import cv ImportError
[16:15] <subsume> i just installed cv and my file-age for that is many months ago
[16:15] <nacc> subsume: what version of ubuntu?
[16:15] <subsume> 16.04
[16:15] <auronandace> subsume: is that for python2 or 3?
[16:16] <nacc> llusato: does `hciconfig -a` see your bluetooth device?
[16:16] <subsume> auronandace: 2
[16:17] <llusato> nacc: no
[16:17] <nacc> subsume: and are you using python2 or python3?
[16:17] <subsume> nacc: btw the contents of cv.py are from cv2.cv import *
[16:17] <subsume> python2
[16:17] <nacc> subsume: setting up an env to reproduce in, one sec
[16:17] <subsume> python3 >>> import cv2;import cv # ImportError
[16:18] <subsume> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/xenial/universe/proposed/python-opencv says that its deleted? well that's merciful
[16:18] <subsume> but its not really deleted?
[16:18] <celtavigo> how can I disable most everything in my ubuntu and make it super simple and fast?
[16:18] <subsume> deleting things doesn't make your computer fast
[16:19] <celtavigo> subsume: what do you suggest?
[16:19] <nacc> subsume: i don't tknow where that page gets that info, but it's wrong
[16:19] <subsume> nacc: ah, rats
[16:19] <subsume> celtavigo: what does top say is taking up your resources
[16:19] <ducasse> celtavigo: you shouldn't randomly disable things unless you understand what they do.
[16:20] <celtavigo> subsume: Ihave a lot of "dbus" a lot of "gvfs" unnecesasry stuff like "cups" I don't even have a printer
[16:20] <llusato> nacc: sometimes it detects the bluetooth and sometimes no
[16:21] <subsume> i dunno what dbus or gvfs is but cups yeah, maybe google around removing it
[16:21] <ducasse> celtavigo: you most likely need/want dbus and gvfs.
[16:22] <subsume> celtavigo: dump your visual interface that should speed things pu
[16:22] <celtavigo> ducasse: what do they do? things like file association on a desktop?
[16:22] <subsume> how much ram you got
[16:22] <ducasse> celtavigo: read the man pages and package descriptions.
[16:22] <celtavigo> subsume: I just apt-get installed lubuntu-desktop, now I am on it but I would like to shed more weight
[16:23] <nacc> subsume: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17175064/
[16:23] <subsume> well only the running things should be hurting you, cups is apparently a beast i'm not sure why the hell it ships by default, but whatever
[16:23] <celtavigo> ducasse: there is no such things as dbus and gvfs when one just runs a simple window manager
[16:23] <llusato> well I have to go see you next time
[16:24] <subsume> nacc: E: Unable to locate package python-cv
[16:24] <ducasse> celtavigo: there are plenty of things that want both. if you don't want unneccessary stuff then avoid metapackages and install with --no-install-recommends
[16:24] <subsume> Description:    Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[16:24] <nacc> subsume: yeah, i typod, just read. python-opencv
[16:25] <llusato> exit
[16:25] <llusato> quit
[16:26] <subsume> nacc: bleh great, well i don't know what's wrong with my package but i certainly don't get that
[16:26] <nacc> subsume: using ppas? can you pastebin the same output from your system as I did at the end?
[16:27] <subsume> not using ppas for anything interesting or related... i don't see any output about your system
[16:27] <nacc> subsume: run python2 and then 'import cv' and provide teh full output
[16:28] <subsume> its just as i pasted with no warnings
[16:28] <subsume> ImportError: No module named cv
[16:28] <subsume> http://dpaste.com/1VTJ7N3
[16:29] <nacc> subsume: hrm, your python version string is slightly different
[16:29] <nacc> 2.7.11 vs. 2.7.11+
[16:29] <nacc> subsume: `apt-cache policy python2` ?
[16:29] <nacc> err, python
[16:29] <subsume> http://dpaste.com/1KHEJSM
[16:31] <nacc> subsume: `dpkg -L python-opencv` ? ... you're not doing anything funny with PYTHONPATH or somethign, right?
[16:31] <subsume> don't think so
[16:31] <subsume> i wouldn't really do that stuff i use virtualenv
[16:31] <nacc> ack
[16:32] <subsume> i'm not in a virtualenv now
[16:32] <subsume> http://dpaste.com/1FA4YFW
[16:33] <nacc> subsume: hrm, very strange! you could file a bug, but I don't know how to reproduce the issue you're hitting. It seems like your python is not quite working. Does the same thing happen with any other python modules (or another python- package)?
[16:34] <subsume> nacc: i guess i can't import numpy but i'm not really sure the correct way to install it
[16:34] <subsume> i would imagine that cv depends on numpy
[16:35] <nacc> subsume: should be `apt-get install python-numpy`
[16:35] <nacc> subsume: and then 'import numpy' in a python importer
[16:35] <nacc> err, interpreter
[16:35] <subsume> nacc: says newest
[16:36] <nacc> subsume: same here, but 'import numpy' in the interpreter works
[16:36] <nacc> subsume: something seems broken with your python setup, i don't know what, though
[16:36] <nacc> does linode do any modifications?
[16:37] <subsume> nacc: i have another linode 16.04 that works fine
[16:37] <nacc> subsume: that seems suspicious
[16:37] <nacc> subsume: i'd expect there is some local modifications, then, in your first instance; but i don't know what
[16:37] <nacc> not necessarily from linode, but maybe a configuration locally or something
[16:37] <subsume> http://dpaste.com/3218GEP from that box
[16:38] <nacc> subsume: can you paste the same as beofre (starting the interpreter and running 'import cv') ?
[16:38] <subsume> http://dpaste.com/2ER5AC1
[16:39] <nacc> yeah, something is b0rked with the first instance's python
[16:39] <nacc> see how it says 2.7.11+ again?
[16:39] <nacc> subsume: can you do a `which python` in both?
[16:40] <subsume> both use bin python
[16:40] <subsume> # /usr/bin/python
[16:43] <yebyen> does anyone deploy ubuntu server from ova templates?
[16:43] <subsume> nacc: python3 gets numpy even when i apt-get remove numpy
[16:44] <nacc> subsume: yes, that's because it uses 'python3-numpy', iirc
[16:44] <yebyen> i have tried half a dozen images and I get invalid manifest errors, seems to be showing a bad SHA256, on every single one that I try
[16:44] <dipankar> is there any app for monitoring my internet speed?
[16:44] <subsume> welp i guess i can just redo this box
[16:44] <yebyen> i have no idea if anyone even uses these OVA files because I can't seem to find documentation on them, but they are part of the daily images, so I would think they should work...
[16:45] <yebyen> but I get the same errors as this guy
[16:45] <yebyen> http://jermsmit.com/ovf-deployment-issue-ubuntu-snappy-15-04-stable-5-cloud/
[16:48] <nacc> subsume: sorry, i really don't know what's going on
[16:49] <subsume> nacc: eh its okay if it fails again i'll comeb ack
[16:49] <subsume> thx a bunch
[16:49] <nacc> subsume: np
[16:51] <yebyen> i get the strong impression that nobody uses these OVA/OVF images at all
[16:51] <nacc> yebyen: may want to ask on a better channel, #ubuntu-server, maybe?
[16:51] <yebyen> given that the manifest appears to be incorrect in a few different ways
[16:51] <yebyen> nacc: thanks, i'll check there
[17:04] <Guest16990> guys, I need some help, I installed eclipse using ubuntu-make, but im getting "JVM terminated. Exit code=13" when opening it
[17:05] <nacc> Guest64284: what is ubuntu-make?
[17:05] <nacc> nm, Guest16990 left :/
[17:05] <nacc> Guest64284: sorry
[17:06] <smnsmn> I didn't, I just changed names
[17:06] <nacc> smnsmn: ok, what is ubuntu-make
[17:06] <smnsmn> "Ubuntu Make is a command line tool which allows you to download the latest version of popular developer tools on your installation, installing it alongside all of the required dependencies"
[17:06] <smnsmn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make
[17:07] <seven_> hello
[17:07] <smnsmn> hello, seven_
[17:08] <nacc> smnsmn: is there a particular reason you used ubuntu-make rather than just installing eclipse?
[17:08] <nacc> smnsmn: i don't know anything about ubuntu-make, just trying to understand what might be going wrong
[17:08] <smnsmn> eclipse is not part of the repositories
[17:08] <nacc> smnsmn: ... yes it is
[17:08] <nacc> smnsmn: what version of ubuntu?
[17:08] <smnsmn> 16.04
[17:08] <nacc>  eclipse | 3.8.1-8   | xenial/universe  | source, all
[17:09] <kshenoy> I get bad tearing when using gvim in i3. Anyone else seeing that?
[17:10] <smnsmn> that's weird, when i tried to install it some versions back it wasn't there
[17:11] <smnsmn> i guess ill remove it and try with the repo's version
[17:11] <nacc> smnsmn: dunno, it's been in the archives sense precise at least
[17:11] <nacc> *since
[17:12] <smnsmn> it seems it jumped 12.10 ad 13.10, though
[17:12] <smnsmn> this is weird
[17:13] <nacc> hrm? smnsmn https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+publishinghistory
[17:13] <nacc> smnsmn: it's been in every release
[17:13] <nacc> the packages.ubuntu.com page only shows supported releases
[17:13] <nacc> smnsmn: it's been in some component since warty...
[17:15] <smnsmn> well, this will take some time, I'll come back when it finishes installing to report anything
[17:15] <smnsmn> good bye
[17:17] <ducasse> kshenoy: which gpu/driver? also, are you using a compositor?
[17:19] <kshenoy> ducasse: I'm running Ubuntu on a VM. I'm not sure about a compositor; I just installed i3 on the base ubuntu
[17:22] <ducasse> kshenoy: what kind of vm?
[17:22] <kshenoy> VMware
[17:22] <ducasse> kshenoy: you would know if you had setup a compositor. you could try installing and enabling compton, see if that helps.
[17:23] <kshenoy> ducasse: I meant to say that I didn't install any compositor myself. I don't know if there's anything installed by default.
[17:24] <kshenoy> ducasse: Ok, I'll try that.
[17:24] <ducasse> kshenoy: that's what i mean, i3 does not use a compositor by default.
[17:25] <kshenoy> ducasse: What does a compositor do?
[17:25] <mbenson_> hi all, df -h shows no disk more than 83% full (112GB avail) but I cannot write, mkdir nor even touch new files on a mounted NTFS drive. I can e.g. `sudo touch /foo` with no problem.
[17:25] <mbenson_> any ideas?
[17:25] <ikonia> you mounted it as root
[17:25] <ikonia> rather than with fuse and your username
[17:25] <mbenson_> the NTFS drive is the one I mention w/ 83% used, 112GB free
[17:26] <mbenson_> ikonia: is that @me?
[17:26] <ikonia> yes
[17:26] <ikonia> mbenson: oops, no
[17:26] <ducasse> kshenoy: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Composite
[17:26] <ikonia> sorry
[17:26] <ikonia> mbenson: ahh yes it is you
[17:26] <mbenson> :)
[17:26] <ikonia> you can't write to ntfs
[17:26] <mbenson> I have been writing to this drive for ages
[17:27] <mbenson> I haven't booted to Windows since I installed Ubuntu on this laptop probably 1.5 years ago
[17:27] <ikonia> right, but you can't now so either a.) the file system needs checking and has been mounted read only b.) it's mounted with the incorrect userspace user
[17:27] <ducasse> kshenoy: if that doesn't help, try looking at vmware's settings for graphics. gvim works fine on i3 here, both with amd and intel gpus.
[17:28] <mbenson> output from `mount` includes:
[17:28] <mbenson> '/dev/sda4 on /windows type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)'
[17:28] <Scunizi> I've booted to a live USB and am trying to see an internal HD that might be dead.  sudo fdisk -l does not show drive. Is there another way to check it's existance?
[17:28] <kshenoy> ducasse: Thanks. I installed open-vm-tools so I'd have thought that should take care of it. But oh well, needs more experimentation
[17:28] <mbenson> ikonia: what do I use to check the fs?
[17:29] <ikonia> mbenson: windows
[17:29] <ducasse> kshenoy: i'm not familiar with vmware, sorry, i only use kvm.
[17:29] <mbenson> ugh :)
[17:29] <mbenson> really?
[17:29] <ikonia> mbenson: I get really fed up of people "ughhh I don't use windows" but have an NTFS drive
[17:29] <ikonia> if you hate it that much - stop using windows only file systems
[17:29] <ikonia> this looking down on windows is tedious
[17:30] <mbenson> sorry to strike a nerve
[17:30] <ikonia> not really
[17:30] <ikonia> it's just pathetic
[17:33] <mbenson> well thanks for the answer anyway
[17:35] <mgsloan> Hey, if the existence of http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/ and lack of existence of  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-wily/ means that I gotta update my ubuntu too?
[17:36] <mgsloan> (if I want to update to the 4.6 kernel)
[17:36] <kshenoy> ducasse: Thx! I installed compton and that seemed to fix it :)
[17:37] <mgsloan> And how would I do so, perhaps updating to Xenial is sufficient?
[17:37] <ikonia> mgsloan why do you want to update to the 4.6 kernel
[17:37] <yeats> !kernel | mgsloan
[17:37] <nacc> mgsloan: no, the suffix is the config used to build said kernel
[17:37] <ikonia> why not use the kernel ubuntu provides and supports
[17:37] <nacc> mgsloan: but why do want the mainline kkernel?
[17:38] <ikonia> please don't say "because it's later" have a better reason
[17:38] <mgsloan> Because I needed to update to 4.5 a while back to fix graphics issues
[17:38] <ikonia> mgsloan: which issues
[17:38] <ducasse> kshenoy: great! :)
[17:38] <ikonia> msev-: and where did you get 4.5 ?
[17:38] <ikonia> oops
[17:38] <mgsloan> Stuff to do with nvidia bumblebee, it's been a while
[17:38] <ikonia> mgsloan: you don't need that now as bumblebee is dead
[17:38] <mgsloan> From this same source, but there was "wily" in the name
[17:38] <ikonia> the stock ubuntu from your version should support nvidia-prime just fine
[17:39] <ikonia> use the stock ubuntu supplied kernel
[17:39] <mgsloan> Err, I suppose I mean something to do with Nvidia Optimus
[17:39] <ikonia> mgsloan: you should be fine with the stock kenrel
[17:39] <ikonia> kernel
[17:39] <mgsloan> Anyway, I have been running into some extremely puzzling memory corruption issues
[17:39] <nacc> mgsloan: as i said earlier, the name in the kernel string is the config being used
[17:39] <ikonia> mgsloan: are you running 4.5 ?
[17:39] <tgm4883> mgsloan: use the provided kernel for your version unless you can site a specific issue that is broken
[17:39] <mgsloan> And am beginning to suspect it's due to using a test kernel
[17:39] <mgsloan> 4.4.5-040405-generic
[17:40] <mgsloan> Err yeah, actually 4.4 heh
[17:40] <ikonia> mgsloan: right - why do you think this is a kernel problem
[17:40] <mgsloan> Because my computer's memory seems fine, but I am getting bugs that indicate memory corruption, in programs run in docker containers
[17:40] <mgsloan> These same docker containers work fine on other boxes
[17:41] <ikonia> mgsloan: why do you think thats a kernel problem
[17:41] <nacc> memory 'seems fine'? mgsloan ... have you tested it?
[17:41] <mgsloan> Because who else could probabilistically reach into my executable's memory and flip bytes?
[17:41] <mgsloan> nacc: User space memtest, not yet full memtest
[17:41] <ikonia> mgsloan: how did you come to that conclusion
[17:41] <ikonia> mgsloan: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:42] <mgsloan> ikonia: Because the same executable runs fine for others, and I am getting sporadic errors across many programs that used to work fine
[17:42] <ikonia> mgsloan: so that doesn't suggest a kernel
[17:42] <tgm4883> mgsloan: I feel like if that was an issue, there would be a bug report on it somewhere
[17:42] <ikonia> that suggests a problem that has not been determined
[17:42] <ikonia> mgsloan: what versoin of ubuntu are you running
[17:44] <tgm4883> I mean, I totally get sometimes needing to run a newer kernel that what's available for your release (heck, I have to do that) but just blindly changing things hoping it fixes something seems crazy to me
[17:44] <mgsloan> The specific of the problem is that the Haskell GC is finding values in the heap that should not be there and indicate memory corruption.  This is occurring on stable ghc, stack, cabal, etc etc.  It is rare, but happens frequently for a program that does lots and lots of computation
[17:44] <ikonia> mgsloan: what versoin of ubuntu are you running
[17:44] <mgsloan> 15.10
[17:44] <ikonia> !info linux-image wily
[17:45] <nacc> <IP_ADDRESS>.41 is the latest in wily (linux-image-generic)
[17:45] <ikonia> thank you nacc
[17:45] <ikonia> mgsloan: move to a supported kernel
[17:45] <ikonia> mgsloan: you're currently on an unsupported kernel
[17:45] <nacc> ikonia: np, i had the rmadison output up already :)
[17:46] <ikonia> moving to another unsupported kernel is not a good move
[17:46] <mgsloan> ikonia: Oh, I know
[17:46] <mgsloan> Heh
[17:46] <ikonia> ok - so job done
[17:46] <ikonia> good luck
[17:46] <mgsloan> Thanks!
[17:46] <mgsloan> I don't actually use the gnome shell, like I replace it with xmonad on boot up
[17:46] <givello> Hey there, I've been encountering an issue with upgrading libcuda1-364 and nvidia-opencl-icd-364
[17:46] <mgsloan> In general I'm using ubuntu for apt rather than for the integration between stuff
[17:47] <givello> I tried to look around for solutions, without success
[17:47] <mgsloan> Not that that's all that relevant, but perhaps that helps explain why I didn't see it as necessary to have a matching kernel version?
[17:48] <nacc> givello: it helps to state the issue.
[17:48] <givello> Here is the gist of what's hapenning: https://gist.github.com/LMG/8c323e0a7a2999b8cffcb76b56cdf772#file-gistfile1-txt-L4
[17:48] <mgsloan> I should probably switch to something a bit more bleeding edge / more control, but arch and nix are both a lot of setup
[17:48] <givello> nacc: sorry, was uploading it
[17:49] <givello> I tried to look deeper into it and I think it's just that systemd unit which is not stoppable (not started?) which makes the preremoval script plant
[17:49] <nacc> givello: where did you get said pacakges from?
[17:50] <givello> This repo with the updated nvidia drivers
[17:50] <givello> hang on
[17:50] <givello> nacc: this one I believe https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:50] <nacc> !ppa | givello
[17:50] <nacc> not supported here
[17:51] <nacc> givello: feel free to contact the ppa owner
[17:51] <givello> Right, right, was just hoping someone with apt experience (pun not intended) would be around
[17:52] <tgm4883> nacc: I feel like that PPA should really be supported...
[17:52] <givello> Maybe you know where the scripts are located at least? I found some that looked like the right ones but changing them didn't have an impact
[17:52] <nacc> "This PPA is currently in testing, you should be experienced with packaging before you dive in here. Give us a few days to sort out the kinks."
[17:52] <givello> (tried to comment the incriminating line, hoping that not stopping the service wouldn't break anything...)
[17:53] <kshenoy> ducasse: K, I can fix the tearing by using compton or resize the vmware window, copy-paste between host and guest by using a vmware tool. Can't do both at the same tim >.<
[17:53] <givello> nacc: err, thanks for the help then
[17:54] <ducasse> kshenoy: don't know what to suggest then, you might have better luck in a vmware channel.
[17:54] <nacc> tgm4883: maybe you're right (my preference is to just not use hardware that requires binary drivers, if possible :)
[17:55]  * tgm4883 wishes nacc good luck on that
[17:55] <nacc> tgm4883: :)
[17:57] <kshenoy> ducasse: Yeah, this is no longer a ubuntu issue but a vmware issue.
[17:58] <nacc> givello: i think the package will unpack the scripts into /var  somewhere, but not sure
[17:59] <kshenoy> ducasse: On an unrelated note, is there a way to create an alias for a command and put in the bg. The catch is that the command needs sudo
[17:59]  * mgsloan updates to xenial
[18:00] <ducasse> kshenoy: 'bg sudo whatever' maybe? you will probably need NOPASSWD set for that command, though.
[18:00] <Scunizi> I'm trying to diagnose if a harddrive is actually .. totally dead.  Booted to a live CD and sudo fdisk -l.  HD doesn't show in list. Am I looking wrong or is there another test?
[18:01] <ducasse> kshenoy: no sorry, i misread 'help bg'.
[18:02] <nacc> Scunizi: maybe look at `dmesg` output and/or /dev/disk/by-path to see what the kernel sees. `lsblk` maybe too?