[06:31] <blanky> okay, look, wmv files aren't working for me with mplayer in firefox :'(
[06:31] <blanky> only in mozilla
[06:31] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, with the -march=cpu-type option
[06:31] <jedrick> ecobuntu: no i want apt-get
[06:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium thanks
[06:31] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you're a good man (or women)!
[06:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium so i'd put in 686?
[06:31] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  man
[06:31] <jedrick> :p
[06:32] <ecobuntu> jedrick: btw..here's the website i got those repositories off
[06:32] <blanky> where can i get firefox plugins
[06:32] <ecobuntu> jedrick: http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html
[06:32] <ecobuntu> jedrick: if you're insterested
[06:32] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok thnx
[06:32] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, not quite.  man gcc for valid cpu types
[06:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i don't see any -march option in make
[06:32] <lightbright> ecobuntu: was it wise of me to enter those pgp commands?
[06:32] <mustard5> blanky, which particular plugin are you after?
[06:33] <ecobuntu> lightbright: pgp commands?  i am not sure of what you're talkinga bout
[06:33] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, you asked about gcc
[06:33] <blanky> mustard5: mplayer
[06:33] <lightbright> ecobuntu: the gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466   &   gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -  from Seveas website
[06:33] <lightbright> ecobuntu: was it wise of me to enter those commands?
[06:33] <blanky> mustard5:I installed it, but it only works in mozilla and not firefox
[06:33] <tritium> lightbright, yes
[06:33] <ecobuntu> lightbright: sure
[06:33] <lightbright> ecobuntu: not a security risk is it?
[06:33] <ecobuntu> lightbright: you can always delete them later...you're not at a security risk
[06:33] <ecobuntu> !pgp
[06:33] <lightbright> tritium: ok just checking :) was worried :P
[06:33] <ubotu> ecobuntu: Not a clue
[06:34] <tritium> lightbright, no worries
[06:34] <lightbright> ecobuntu: ok :)
[06:34] <blanky> mustard5: the only helper I get and he's not talking :'(
[06:34] <ecobuntu> lightbright: i think you can even delete them from synaptic IIRC
[06:34] <lightbright> tritium: are you always so nice?  or did I get you on a good day? :)
[06:34] <mustard5> blanky, hmm...I know mozplugger allows apps to run in firefox, but I think firefox would probably end up using totem as totem is the default
[06:34] <lightbright> ecobuntu: ok cool
[06:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium uhh..doesn't make use gcc?
[06:34] <tritium> lightbright, well, I try to be.  it helps that you're so nice too :)
[06:34] <lightbright> tritium: :)
[06:35] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, make uses whatever you tell it to
[06:35] <misfit_toy> group hug
[06:35] <tritium> heh
[06:35] <mustard5> blanky, you might be able to set mplayer as the default, but thats something that I am not sure how to do.
[06:35] <lightbright> tritium: I always try to be respectful and patient with any teacher that is helping me learn.  Im twice the student than I am a teacher in life
[06:35] <calderstrake> quick question... im trying to use a custom icon for the one-click links on the task bar.. .but they are all greyed-out
[06:35] <calderstrake> who do i use a custom icon?
[06:35] <calderstrake> how*
[06:35] <tritium> lightbright, nice
[06:35] <lightbright> misfit_toy: yeah, group hug ;)
[06:35] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you know you can ONLY view a webcam with this plugin not broadcast
[06:36] <ecobuntu> jedrick: and that's only with MSN and YAHOO users
[06:36] <mustard5> blanky, is there any reason why you wouldn't want totem to run in firefox instead?
[06:36] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:36] <lightbright> misfit_toy: I read once that if you never touch or hug a new born baby, they die!  thats how important hugs are to a human, even when they get older :)
[06:36] <blanky> it's not working for me, totem sucks for me (it doesnt play the files), mplayer works (i tried in mozilla), and when i go to about:plugins it shows mplayer there too
[06:36] <blanky> but I dont know how to set it as the default
[06:37] <slew> hi, i have an error message: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file, where do i get this file?
[06:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium okay..i have an app i want to compile and install, and i want it to be compiled under i686
[06:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> not i386
[06:37] <misfit_toy> lightbright, interesting, but I've hugged lots of newborns, lightly of course.
[06:37] <mustard5> blanky, I believe its possible, I just don't know how
[06:37] <lightbright> misfit_toy: lol ;)
[06:37] <blanky> :'S
[06:37] <dducko> In Breezy, totem has issues with firefox
[06:37] <dducko> What are you trying to do blanky?
[06:37] <jesseman_> slew: what are you running?
[06:37] <blanky> set mplayer to default-ly play wmv files
[06:37] <blanky> instead of totem
[06:37] <slew> KDX
[06:37] <blanky> dducko please help me :'(
[06:38] <dducko> In Firefox, or normally?
[06:38] <dducko> Like after you download it.
[06:38] <transgress> is it possible to update the ipod firmware in linux?
[06:38] <jesseman_> slew: not familiar .. what does it do?
[06:38] <blanky> no dducko
[06:38] <blanky> embeded wmv files
[06:38] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, did you run ./configure?
[06:38] <dducko> Ahh ok.
[06:38] <bur[n] er> transgress: possibly with wine?
[06:38] <dducko> Hang on a second..
[06:38] <jesseman_> slew: also, did you ever get your dirvers to work?
[06:38] <bur[n] er> transgress: good demand to make of apple though :)
[06:38] <transgress> bur[n] er: yeah
[06:38] <blanky> in mozilla, when I go to a site, it has embedded wmv, it works, in firefox it tries to use totem and it doesnt work, i wanna set mplayer as default
[06:38] <dducko> have you installed the mplyaer plugin yet blanky?
[06:39] <ecobuntu> jedrick: did this work for you?
[06:39] <jesseman_> slew: i mean drivers, of course :)
[06:39] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to play .mmf (ringtone files) in ubuntu?
[06:39] <blanky> dducko: yeah! and like i said, it works in mozilla but not firefox
[06:39] <blanky> in firefox it triest to use totem instead
[06:39] <blanky> frickin totem
[06:39] <misfit_toy> blanky, you have to delete a file under the .firefox directory...pluginreg.dat I believe? then restart firefox
[06:39] <tritium> easy there blanky
[06:39] <dducko> blanky, still running firefox 1.0.7
[06:40] <slew> jesseman_, yes, check tlinux. kdx is a chat/community type program. it worked before the fresh install, ive installed the build essential. im not trying to compile, im just trying to run the program.
[06:40] <jesseman_> slew: ok, ive been in the chan for a bit :)
[06:40] <dducko> blanky sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtot*
[06:40] <blanky> dducko: what? yeah i think im running 1.0.7
[06:40] <lightbright> im creating a gpg key and it keeps saying: Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
[06:40] <lightbright> !  Any ideas?
[06:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, lightbright
[06:41] <derrickw> i wish i knew where all those conversations on bash.org occur. there must be some awesome irc channel out there that i'm missing
[06:41] <blanky> dducko, i type that command in terminal?
[06:41] <dducko> yeah
[06:41] <blanky> sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtot*
[06:41] <blanky> okay thanks!
[06:41] <DShepherd> hey
[06:41] <dducko> then restart firefox and see fi that fixed it
[06:41] <ecobuntu> anyone know if firefox 1.5 is going to be backported?
[06:41] <ecobuntu> it's pretty sweet
[06:41] <transgress> ecobuntu: more than likely
[06:41] <ecobuntu> transgress: i think it's already in sid
[06:42] <DShepherd> ecobuntu: i guess so
[06:42] <transgress> ecobuntu: then grab the sid package if you like...
[06:42] <ecobuntu> well i am not that eager ;)
[06:42] <transgress> i want a package for flock
[06:42] <dducko> It isnt in the dapper repos yet
[06:43] <dducko> Probally after the final comes out later this month
[06:43] <jedrick> ecobuntu: man still don't got the plugins
[06:43] <blanky> dducko: i think this might help, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=379297 , but I cant interpret it
[06:43] <xinthea> anyone running rosegarden?
[06:43] <blanky> can you help me dducko :(
[06:43] <ecobuntu> jedrick: wierd
[06:43] <lightbright> has anyone successfuly created a pgp key?
[06:43] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i don't know what to say...does dpkg -L gaim-vv...show it as installed?
[06:43] <blanky> dducko: are you there?
[06:44] <La_PaRCa> HEy, anyone has any idea why seahorse freezes when I try to find a key in a server?
[06:44] <blanky> dducko, what I want is to set mplayer as default player for wmv instead of totem
[06:44] <crimsun> lightbright: (well, a GPG key, yes)
[06:44] <Aree> Why Re-Writing CD on Gnome Baker ?
[06:44] <lightbright> crimsun: it doesnt seem to work for me, any help?
[06:45] <lightbright> crimsun: I type gpg --gen-key
[06:45] <mustard5> blanky, did you restart firefox and try it after doing the command dducko showed you?
[06:45] <lightbright> crimsun: but it says Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
[06:45] <dducko> blanky, that should have got rid of totem completley..
[06:45] <blanky> mustard5: i didnt try the command
[06:45] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ye, i think i need to restart the gaim-vv first :p
[06:45] <dducko> the command I gave you removes the totem plugins
[06:46] <blanky> yeah, I dont want to get rid of totem, I want to know if theres a way of somply making it so that mplayer is used instead of mplayer
[06:46] <mustard5> blanky, well it appears that that would take totem completely out of the equation with regards to firefox
[06:46] <DShepherd> jedrick: I should try it out tooo
[06:46] <DShepherd> jedrick: gaim-vv that is
[06:46] <dducko> It just takes it out of firefox, you still have it
[06:46] <DShepherd> jedrick: is it in the repos?
[06:46] <ecobuntu> ok
[06:46] <crimsun> lightbright: so you should bang on the keyboard, listen to music, move the mouse around, etc.
[06:46] <misfit_toy> blanky, that doesn't remove totem from your system, just from firefox
[06:46] <ecobuntu> DShepherd: he added a special repository
[06:46] <lightbright> crimsun: I do that like crazy, but same message
[06:46] <DShepherd> ecobuntu: which was?
[06:47] <ecobuntu> DShepherd: http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html
[06:47] <ecobuntu> go there
[06:47] <blanky> guys, but if it does that, then will it use mplayer instead?
[06:47] <ecobuntu> add the repositories
[06:47] <blanky> how can I just make it use mplayer instead, does this help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=379297
[06:47] <mustard5> blanky, thats the plan
[06:47] <DShepherd> k
[06:47] <blanky> fine i'll try it
[06:47] <blanky> read the site i gave you though, it might help but i dont get it
[06:47] <ecobuntu> you won't be able to verify the package though cause i don't know where the gpg key is
[06:47] <Bikram___> help
[06:48] <blanky> yay it uses mplayer now
[06:48] <blanky> I love you all
[06:48] <blanky> you guys are so cool! :D
[06:48] <blanky> *blanky hug*
[06:49] <mindless> Hey im back, heh,
[06:49] <dducko> *laughs as he slowly shakes his head*
[06:49] <blanky> bye!
[06:49] <mustard5> :)
[06:49] <mustard5> another happy customer ;)
[06:50] <dducko> Always good.
[06:50] <toshiba> i have toshiba satellite L10, how to support battery ??
[06:50] <mindless> all i want to do is share my internet between to computers using ubuntu, ive read a few fourms, and no one seems to be specificly doing what im doing....would shorewall be a program that could do this, or is there a lighter one,,,i dont need a firewall.
[06:50] <lightbright> crimsun: It worked now I banged the kb like it was insane
[06:50] <lightbright> does anyone know  Dennis Kaarsemaker ?
[06:50] <tritium> toshiba, what do you mean by support?
[06:50] <crimsun> lightbright: that's Seveas.
[06:50] <lightbright> crimsun:  ahh
[06:50] <lightbright> crimsun:  for his name is on my pgp keys :P
[06:51] <crimsun> tritium: are you using 2.6.15-3 in dapper with wpasupplicant on a centrino chipset?
[06:51] <intelikey> mindless shorewall is a firewall me thinks
[06:51] <wx9j> have an endless loop asking for password trying to talk to a win box , any iedas ?
[06:51] <mindless> alright, it was said to have a few other parts in it also.
[06:51] <tritium> crimsun, no, I'm not using dapper yet (only working ubuntu machine is my work laptop with breezy)
[06:52] <toshiba> i wont support acpi
[06:52] <ecobuntu> 2.6.15-3?  is that in dapper?
[06:52] <ecobuntu> what happened to 2.6.14-1?
[06:52] <crimsun> tritium: oh, ok. I was going to mention my heads-up in -devel.
[06:52] <crimsun> ecobuntu: we skipped it in favor of .15-rc
[06:52] <tritium> crimsun, I saw that.  Thanks for making sure :)
[06:53] <mindless> when i was networking these computers with redhad, i didnt need any extra programs, i just had to twink the DNS and IP's just right....but the options for that arent in the network settings, is there a mod or something to get those?
[06:53] <mindless> redhat*
[06:53] <toshiba> tritium, i wont support acpi
[06:53] <cafuego> lightbright: he's asleep at the moment.
[06:54] <ecobuntu> mindless: ifconfig?
[06:54] <intelikey> yeah mindless one of these fellows can surely help you setup your network.      but i am network illiterate.
[06:54] <lightbright> cafuego: :)
[06:54] <tritium> toshiba, Tecra A10?
[06:54] <lightbright> cafuego: I found Seveas really nice, just met him yesterday
[06:54] <drcode> hi all
[06:55] <intelikey> drcode
[06:55] <cafuego> lightbright: online or irl?
[06:55] <mindless> ifconfig a function of ubuntu?
[06:55] <drcode> I install dovecot
[06:55] <lightbright> online
[06:55] <mindless> or a program?
[06:55] <lightbright> anyway
[06:55] <drcode> but its dosnt come with smtp ?
[06:55] <lightbright> time to leave, thank you everyone, see you tomorrow :)
[06:55] <ecobuntu> ifconfig is a unix command
[06:55] <tritium> good night, lightbright
[06:55] <cafuego> it *is* tomorrow <heh>
[06:55] <ecobuntu> man ifconfig
[06:55] <lightbright> tritium: :)
[06:55] <wx9j> connect to server has no smb option to allow me to talk to my win box, any ideas why ?
[06:55] <toshiba> tritium, satellite L10
[06:55] <tritium> cafuego, how can the present be the future?  :)
[06:55] <jedrick> ecobuntu: man still don't have the plugins
[06:55] <mindless> oh great,
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> i got on air america radio
[06:56] <cafuego> tritium: By the past being the present
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> i totally choked, but i got on.
[06:56] <khermans> wx9j, just use nautilus with smb://192.168.x.x
[06:56] <tritium> cafuego, but...
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> yayyyy
[06:56] <ecobuntu> jedrick: that sucks...i don't know what to tell you
[06:56] <mindless> might be able to use a walkthrew i found then
[06:56] <mindless> altho its writen using the gui
[06:56] <ecobuntu> jedrick: maybe you've stumbled on a bug
[06:56] <khermans> wx9j, or Places -> Network Sevrers
[06:56] <jedrick> ecobuntu: even my smiley is taken off
[06:56] <mindless> and i dont know my way around the terminal.
[06:56] <pc22> is vnc possible for two networks?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> BROKEN_LADDER,  now call up Art Bell!
[06:56] <mindless> be back prolly, if i fail~
[06:56] <cafuego> tritium: Please park all butts in the designated areas before enterting the channel.
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> Dr_Willis he's not on the radio right now.
[06:57] <Terminus> mindless, you need NAT right? you could enable ip_forward and use iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE, maybe in post-up.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> BROKEN_LADDER,  Dang! - National Geograhic channel had a show on "Chuparacabras" yesterday :P
[06:57] <wx9j> khermans, you got me there , this has been making me nuts for days
[06:57] <ecobuntu> jedrick: hmm...i don't know
[06:57] <khermans> wx9j, you mean it worked for you ?
[06:57] <tritium> cafuego, :)
[06:57] <khermans> good
[06:58] <ecobuntu> mindless: what are you trying to do network computers?
[06:58] <mindless> yes
[06:58] <mindless> 2 computers, 1 with DSL coming threw eth0, and networked to the other comp threw eth1
[06:59] <nothing> hello all
[06:59] <intelikey> nothing
[06:59] <ecobuntu> hmm...there must be some nice GUI but i am not sure...
[06:59] <mustard5> welcome nothing
[06:59] <german> hi [linner]  how're you doing
[06:59] <tritium> toshiba, I do believe acpi works on the L10: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaSatelliteProL10
[06:59] <[linner] > hey german
[06:59] <german> hi everybody
[06:59] <nothing> can someone give me a hand with alps glidepoint
[07:00] <joshua__1> hello, i am in kde now and am wondering how to get rid of gnome now to free up space
[07:00] <wx9j> khermans, the browser did, got the shared folders showing in the browser
[07:00] <khermans> wx9j, :-)
[07:00] <[linner] > german, just fine thanks
[07:00] <[linner] > :
[07:00] <[linner] > :)
[07:00] <german> [linner] , did you install ubuntu in your laptop??
[07:00] <wx9j> but the damm thing wont let me look in the folder :)
[07:00] <wawassoft> some one can chat in spanihs?
[07:00] <tritium> !es
[07:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:00] <[linner] > um a few days ago
[07:00] <mindless> terminus dont happen to know a url too a howto on that do you?
[07:00] <[linner] > so i'm trying to get this ndiswrapper to work for me
[07:01] <Terminus> mindless, http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm
[07:01] <german> wawassoft, usa el canal #ubuntu-es, sino yo soy de Per :P
[07:01] <SirKillalot> heh that rox
[07:01] <SirKillalot> what does "ayuda" mean?
[07:01] <mindless> alright,
[07:01] <toshiba> tritium, thanks
[07:01] <tritium> SirKillalot, help
[07:01] <[linner] > german, how are you?
[07:01] <cafuego> Das ist kein Deutsch, du Lgner!
[07:01] <cafuego> SirKillalot: 'help'.
[07:01] <german> fine [linner]  I just installed Breezy in my pc
[07:01] <intelikey> joshua__1 sudo apt-get remove gnome<blah>    and to find out what <blah> is   dpkg -la | grep gnome | less
[07:02] <[linner] > oh that's great!
[07:02] <Terminus> mindless, there's nothing like the terminal though. i've never tried setting up a NAT with a GUI. assuming you're using ppp for the modem, you could create a script for post-up using SNAT instead of MASQUERADE. forgot the exact line but it involved using the variables setup by pppd.
[07:02] <wx9j> khermans, the places -netowrk servers sets me in an endless loop of asking for password
[07:02] <[linner] > SURE wish i could get this ndiswrapper thing working
[07:02] <[linner] > sucks not being able to use my laptop at work
[07:02] <Terminus> mindless, oh, and that howto will make you use the terminal. ;)
[07:02] <german> yeah [linner] , but it looks better tha Hoary but still having little problems
[07:02] <khermans> wx9j, save it -- and if that fails just click cancel on the following screens
[07:02] <crimsun> what doesn't work with ndiswrapper?
[07:02] <khermans> wx9j, it will still let you ine
[07:03] <[linner] > german, brb
[07:03] <wx9j> I will try that
[07:03] <khermans> wx9j, best thing to do is mount your shared stuff in /etc/fstab
[07:03] <joshua__1> ok thanks intelikey
[07:03] <Terminus> mindless, oh, and you can use /etc/sysctl.conf instead of placing it in the script in that howto.
[07:03] <tritium> crimsun, linner's broadcom
[07:03] <german> [linner] , brb? sorry i don't undestard
[07:03] <german> haha
[07:03] <intelikey> oh joshua__1 ubuntu-desktop will also be part of that list to remove.       you wont remove everything that comes up in the list of coures.....
[07:04] <[linner] > german, jahajaja
[07:04] <[linner] > :)
[07:04] <[linner] > german, isn't that right? :)
[07:04] <mindless> noted
[07:04] <crimsun> [linner] : what error message(s) do you receive?
[07:04] <german> yes [linner]  its jajaaaajaja
[07:04] <Toran> can anyone point me to a guid for converting video files such as OGM, MKV, AVI, etc. into a format that will play on my dvd player?
[07:04] <nothing> anyone able to get the alps glidepoint scroll to work in ubuntu 5.10?
[07:04] <german> but what does brb means anyway??
[07:04] <crimsun> Toran: doom9.org
[07:04] <[linner] > crimsun... no error messages... my wlan simply isn't showing up
[07:05] <crimsun> [linner] : breezy?
[07:05] <tritium> german, "be right back..."
[07:05] <[linner] > crimsun, yes
[07:05] <Edgardoweb> # ututo
[07:05] <german> tritium, thanks ;)
[07:05] <[linner] > tritium, he knows... he was joking with me
[07:05] <crimsun> [linner] : on an open net or one with WEP/WPA[2] ?
[07:05] <german> [linner] , i didn't know hahaha
[07:05] <wx9j> well khermans , still no luck, but thanks for the help.
[07:05] <tritium> [linner] , oh, heh :)
[07:05] <nothing> or could someone point me in the right direction?
[07:05] <Edgardoweb>  ututometanse en # ututo
[07:06] <german> [linner] , I didn't knew
[07:06] <german> jajaja
[07:06] <Edgardoweb>  ututometanse en /join  # ututo
[07:06] <[linner] > crimsun, oh lord.... how do i find out?
[07:06] <khermans> wx9j, you sure you have the user and password and dmoain correct
[07:06] <[linner] > oh oh... my network
[07:06] <crimsun> [linner] : it would be set on the wireless AP
[07:06] <cafuego> Edgardoweb: Why are you spamming?
[07:06] <[linner] > crimsun, it's wpa
[07:06] <[linner] > crimsun, should i make it open
[07:06] <[linner] > ?
[07:06] <Toran> crimsun: the howto references a software called "dvd2svcd", which appears to be a win32 program
[07:06] <crimsun> [linner] : I presume you're using wpasupplicant with ndiswrapper?
[07:07] <JonasNZ> whats the best place to look for help trying to get suspend to ram working, if i try sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh i get a bit of black screen, then I see my gfx card details like on boot and then i get blue bars
[07:07] <[linner] > crimsun, i don't know what that is... so I doubt that I am... download it through synaptic?
[07:07] <wx9j> the domain is correct although it keeps defaulting to some MSHOME crap, this is a test sys to the passwd is same on both box
[07:07] <crimsun> [linner] : if you're using WPA on your wireless AP, you have to use wpasupplicant with ndiswrapper
[07:07] <[linner] > ok... i'll go get it
[07:07] <[linner] > brb
[07:08] <tritium> JonasNZ, you need to uncomment line 2 of /etc/default/acpi-support, and possibly play around with a few of the settings
[07:08] <Edgardoweb> cafuego no hablo english
[07:09] <[linner] > crimsun, i downloaded it... it's installed (wpasupplicant)
[07:09] <[linner] > crimsun, what should I do now?
[07:09] <Edgardoweb>  ututo metanse en /join  # ututo
[07:09] <JonasNZ> sum1 /kick Edgardoweb plz
[07:09] <tritium> Edgardoweb, please go to #ubuntu-es
[07:10] <joshua__1> hey intelikey, do i have to remove each package one at a time?
[07:10] <cafuego> tritium: Whilst you're at it<EMAIL_ADDRESS>are pretty much all spambots.
[07:10] <Edgardoweb> jonasnz: :S
[07:10] <Edgardoweb> :S
[07:10] <crimsun> [linner] : you need to edit /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:10] <cafuego> Edgardoweb: Sja, ik spreek ook niet wat jij daar spreekt, maar je hoort mij niet 9tot nu toe dan) in het nederlands zeuren.
[07:11] <[linner] > crimsun, ok i'll open it....
[07:11] <crimsun> [linner] : you may wish to take a look in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/
[07:11] <[linner] > crimsun, would it just be easier to open my network?
[07:11] <tritium> cafuego, your'e so observant
[07:11] <wx9j> khermans, when I select connect to server, the service type has no SMB option, am I missing some code somewhere
[07:11] <tritium> you're, even
[07:11] <cafuego> tritium: Nono, they been at it all day (seveas banned 'em this morning)
[07:12] <[linner] > crimsun, what do i do to open the file?
[07:12] <khermans> wx9j, dunno
[07:12] <wx9j> k
[07:12] <drcode> dovecot , what SMTP server I can use?
[07:13] <cafuego> drcode: postfix is installed already. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow postfix' will get you started.
[07:13] <cafuego> tritium: muaha - cheers :-)
[07:13] <drcode> thanx
[07:13] <khermans> drcode, postfix
[07:13] <drcode> thanx alot
[07:13] <tritium> cafuego, thank you too
[07:15] <robert11> Time to go hohe I think
[07:15] <robert11> home
[07:15] <cafuego> tritium: didya see that one?
[07:15] <crimsun> tritium: it's better to remove that ban and to set +r
[07:16] <cafuego> robert11: are you abusing a client's banmdwidth for irc? :-)
[07:16] <tritium> hmm?
[07:16] <crimsun> [linner] : you can use any editor with sudo
[07:16] <robert11> No just mine. But home is next room
[07:16] <cafuego><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:17] <crimsun> tritium: the floodbots come from too many IPs; it's better just to set +r temporarily
[07:17] <robert11> looking at using zenity to make a bash script to write fstab files
[07:17] <robert11> to get round VFS problem with openoffice
[07:18] <robert11> go around problem
[07:18] <[linner] > crimsun, there is no file in that folder
[07:18] <[linner] > only a tar.gz file
[07:18] <crimsun> [linner] : wpa_supplicant.conf.gz ?
[07:18] <[linner] > yep
[07:18] <[linner] > actually
[07:18] <[linner] > no
[07:18] <crimsun> [linner] : you can open that using vim
[07:18] <[linner] > actually yes
[07:18] <[linner] > wpa_supplicant.conf.gz
[07:18] <crimsun> or z{less,more}
[07:18] <[linner] > crimsun what's vim?
[07:19] <crimsun> [linner] : the editor ViM
[07:19] <robert11> vi on steroids
[07:19] <[linner] > ok
[07:19] <cafuego> vim is, like, better than vi
[07:19] <bimberi> cafuego: spoken like ubotu :P
[07:19] <cafuego> robert11: Looks like ooo has no 'favourites' option in the load/save dialogs either :-(
[07:20] <cafuego> Aree: Thank you for NOT doing that.
[07:20] <benplaut> Vi IMproved
[07:20] <[linner] > crimsun, i don't have that editor
[07:20] <[linner] > crimsun, nothing happens
[07:20] <robert11> no. nada. nothing.:-(
[07:20] <cafuego> [linner] : use your favourite editor or pager.
[07:20] <[linner] > ok
[07:21] <dabaR> [linner] : yes, you do have that editor, its under vi in a terminal.
[07:21] <[linner] > ok
[07:21] <tritium> good night, friends
[07:21] <dabaR> night
[07:21] <cafuego> tritium: g'night :-)
[07:22] <[linner] > night tritium  :)
[07:22] <bimberi> nn tritium
[07:22] <tritium> :)
[07:22] <robert11> if I use bash script with zenity I  can su to root, re-write fstab then run mount
[07:22] <dabaR> hehe
[07:23] <robert11> i reallly just want to "patch" the fstab though
[07:23] <robert11> sorry using this as a whiteboard
[07:23] <dabaR> robert11: that above, the zenity part, that was not a question was it?
[07:23] <[linner] > ya'll it's telling me i don't have the right permissions
[07:23] <cafuego> robert11: backup the orig, replace when done.
[07:24] <dabaR> y'all:set the permissions
[07:24] <lightbright> hi
[07:24] <cafuego> lightbright: that was a short nap
[07:24] <[linner] > dabaR, i can't ... it's all greyed out
[07:24] <[linner] > lightbright, hello :)
[07:24] <lightbright> how can I install something similar to k3b?
[07:24] <german> hi lightbright
[07:24] <robert11> Ahh. So a temp fstab while on
[07:24] <cafuego> lightbright: sudo apt-get install k3b
[07:24] <lightbright> cafuego: yeah just needed to install cd-rw burning software
[07:25] <lightbright> cafuego: do I need to install whole KDE for that?
[07:25] <robert11> network
[07:25] <lightbright> german: hello :)
[07:25] <cafuego> lightbright: Or simply insert a blank Cd and see what Gnome does :-)
[07:25] <rabeldable> hey linner
[07:25] <dabaR> [linner] : you are not the owner than, use the terminal, with sudo chmod +<whatever permissions you need> /path/file
[07:25] <lightbright> [linner] : hi
[07:25] <[linner] > :)
[07:25] <lightbright> cafuego: what if its not blank and you want to make it blank? :)
[07:25] <[linner] > dabaR, i think i'm just going to open up my network ... this is a pain in the but
[07:25] <[linner] > butt
[07:25] <lightbright> cafuego: is there a GUI similar to k3b?
[07:25] <dabaR> show us
[07:25] <rabeldable> whats the prob, linner?
[07:25] <cafuego> lightbright: Do ya have that option when right-clicking it?
[07:26] <crimsun> [linner] : you just need to edit those two files, and then restart wpasupplicant
[07:26] <[linner] > rabeldable, i have a wpa enabled networked and ndiswrapper won't work
[07:26] <cafuego> lightbright: gnomebaker
[07:26] <[linner] > crimsun, ok i'll try
[07:26] <dabaR> crimsun: omg, you are not really almost done with that supplicant, are you?
[07:26] <crimsun> dabaR: eh?
[07:27] <dabaR> crimsun: do you and [linner]  have it almost working?
[07:27] <lightbright> cafuego: yes
[07:27] <crimsun> dabaR: ...I just started troubleshooting it with her
[07:27] <lightbright> is gnomebaker as good as k3b?
[07:27] <dabaR> crimsun: ok.
[07:27] <[linner] > crimsun, oh i thought you said i just had to edit the file and i was done...
[07:27] <[linner] > bummer
[07:28] <robert11> good night
[07:28] <crimsun> [linner] : well yes, you need to edit those two files and restart wpasupplicant. This means you'll need both ndiswrapper and wpasupplicant working.
[07:28] <robert11> off to break computer
[07:28] <intelikey> hehe good night robert
[07:28] <xtr> GAH. HOw come traceroute don't work?
[07:30] <xtr> Is tracepath the replacement for traceroute?
[07:30] <lightbright> night all
[07:30] <[linner] > crimsun, ok.. so i just edited the /etc/default/wpasupplicant - i just guessed...
[07:30] <dabaR> xtr: install what does not work is step #1
[07:30] <[linner] > and now i'm editing the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:30] <[linner] > but this one i don't have any idea
[07:30] <xtr> Oh.
[07:30] <[linner] > crimsun, is the ssid the wpa key?
[07:30] <dabaR> [linner] : paste what you are not sure of, to pastebin
[07:31] <[linner] > dab
[07:31] <[linner] > ok
[07:31] <rabeldable> linner: here is an example: http://www.dw-itsecurity.de/content/view/67/122/
[07:31] <crgeist> hey guys... can anyone tell me how to fix configure: error: c compiler cannot create executables please?
[07:31] <crimsun> [linner] : there's an example options= line in /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[07:31] <crimsun> crgeist: install 'build-essential'
[07:32] <[linner] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4656
[07:32] <[linner] > crimsun, that's the one that's locked
[07:33] <crgeist> crimsun: it says install: too few arguments
[07:33] <[linner] > crimsun, and quite honestly i'm too tired to try and figure out how to unlock it ...
[07:33] <[linner] > i just want to get this bugger online and go to bed
[07:33] <crimsun> [linner] : that default config is for an open network
[07:33] <crimsun> crgeist: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:34] <[linner] > crimsun, ok... maybe i'll just do that
[07:34] <[linner] > this is a pain
[07:34] <[linner] > :(
[07:34] <[linner] > crimsun, thank you so much for all your help....
[07:34] <[linner] > i'm sorry to be so cranky
[07:34] <[linner] > g
[07:34] <[linner] > g'night all
[07:34] <khermans> linner
[07:34] <crgeist> crimsun: thanks
[07:34] <khermans> hey, is linner hot?
[07:34] <crimsun> that's way off-topic.
[07:35] <crimsun> crgeist: np
[07:35] <khermans> crimsun, meet me in ubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[07:37] <intelikey> startx is too long  maybe i'll add an alias
[07:38] <khermans> ln -s `which startx` /usr/bin/sx
[07:38] <khermans> or /usr/bin/s3x
[07:41] <GURT> am i not supposed to be able to download w32codecs from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ via synaptic ?
[07:42] <GURT> i get a 403 error and a punch in the face every time i try to
[07:42] <mustard5> GURT, simply adding that url will not give you access no
[07:42] <GURT> well.. i followed the instructions on that page
[07:42] <mustard5> GURT, you would have to add a properly formatted line to your sources.list and add the gpg key
[07:42] <crgeist> sorry, but now it says please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[07:43] <crgeist> what does that mean?
[07:43] <intelikey> i'd guess it is looking for kernel hedders
[07:43] <intelikey> errr headers
[07:43] <GURT> mustard5: i'm pretty sure i added the gpg key correctly.. it said OK when i was done
[07:44] <crgeist> ok, let me see... thanks
[07:44] <mustard5> GURT, you could try the source-o-matic link to add the repo if you really must have it in synaptic.  I wouldn't keep it enabled after you have downloaded what you want though
[07:44] <mustard5> !sources
[07:44] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:44] <GURT> and also.. i downloaded skype from there already
[07:44] <GURT> mustard5: i'll check that out, thanks
[07:44] <mustard5> GURT, it might just be that the server is down
[07:44] <mustard5> GURT, its been getting some heavy use lately
[07:45] <GURT> i can imagine
[07:45] <GURT> thanks
[07:46] <mike4263> man, I was rambling on in the unregged channel
[07:46] <mike4263> I didnt even know they had those
[07:46] <misfit_toy> heh
[07:47] <mike4263> hey, after my monitor suspends my X session; sometimes my usb mouse doesnt come back
[07:47] <mike4263> .  I have to kill X
[07:47] <mike4263> .  i'm running breezy badger
[07:47] <crgeist> i used to use ubuntu a while ago.. what happened to aptget?
[07:47] <crgeist> or apt-get
[07:47] <mike4263> nothin
[07:47] <mike4263> its still there
[07:47] <Madpilot> crgeist: nothing - but GAI or Synaptic are cool
[07:47] <mike4263> aptitude is alright
[07:48] <mike4263> kind of confusing interface
[07:48] <crgeist> im trying to install the kernel headers
[07:48] <sethk> 'evening, all.  I'm considering loading ubuntu on this laptop, because it manages to find the wireless network on this laptop (the other distros don't).  After I load it, though, I have none of the X development support files.  Is there an apt-get, or some other command, that will load up the X development stuff as one big group?
[07:48] <mike4263> anybdoy have any idea about the mouse?
[07:48] <crgeist> does anyone know the command?
[07:48] <sethk> mike4263, does disconnecting/reconnecting help?
[07:48] <sethk> crgeist, there is a catagory for kernel headers in synaptic
[07:49] <mike4263> ha, never tried
[07:49] <crgeist> sethk, let me see
[07:49] <mike4263> i never really had anything of importance open
[07:49] <sethk> mike4263, worth a try
[07:49] <mike4263> i use my laptop mostly these days
[07:49] <mike4263> i usually only run webpages and aim on this box, client side that this
[07:49] <sethk> mike4263, I've had that problem with fedora and disconnecting/reconnecting usually gets the mouse back
[07:49] <mike4263> cool
[07:49] <sethk> mike4263, I mostly see the problem when I use my KVM switch, though.
[07:50] <mike4263> can i specify usb mouses in X config?
[07:50] <mike4263> how do I use ATI drivers?
[07:50] <misfit_toy> mike4263, if it has a center wheel on it, give it a few scrolls, that might wake it up as well
[07:50] <intelikey> !ati
[07:50] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:50] <mike4263> ya
[07:50] <dabaR> ubotu: tell mike4263 about ati
[07:50] <mike4263> cool
[07:51] <mike4263> how do the ubuntu version numbers work?
[07:51] <misfit_toy> year.month
[07:51] <mike4263> ah
[07:51] <rob1> seth_k, just use apt-get/synaptic to install them
 can i specify usb mouses in X config?  <--- yes and if you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  it will ask you about the mouse when it gets to that part.
[07:52] <rob1> or sethk rather
[07:52] <senectus> I'm trying to setup an instant "redirect" so that when someone browses to www.domainname.com it forwards them to /var/www/wp/index.php but I don't want to change my "root" directory from /var/www/ ??
[07:53] <intelikey> senectus symlink ?
[07:53] <sethk> senectus, you can do that in the apache configuration by treating it as a virtual domain
[07:53] <sethk> senectus, it will work fine even if it isn't really virtual
[07:53] <sethk> senectus, or a link as intelikey suggested is probably a simpler solution
[07:53] <intelikey> ln -s /var/www/ /var/www/wp/   ?
[07:54] <senectus> what you mean "ln -s /var/www/wp/yadda.php /var/www/yadda.htm" ?
[07:54] <intelikey> i was thinking the whole dir.  but what ever works.
[07:55] <sethk> senectus, the directory is definitely the way to go
[07:55] <sethk> senectus, although apache can at times be bitchy about directory links.
[07:56] <sethrd> df -h
[07:56] <sethrd> Oops, wrong window.
[07:56] <dooglus> is it possible to have 2 different IP addresses in the same local subnet with a single LAN card?
[07:56] <intelikey> heh ls -s ////////////////////////sbin/chroot //var/www/wp/blah.html     lol
[07:57] <dducko> be back shortly... hopefully...
[07:57] <sethk> back in a bit, thanks, everyone
[07:58] <crgeist> i get this error when trying to configure: Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[07:58] <crgeist> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[07:58] <crgeist> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[07:58] <crgeist> kernel headers are installed
[07:58] <crgeist> can anyone help me please?
[07:59] <dooglus> crgeist: does /usr/src/linux exist?
[07:59] <crgeist> no, what should be the default?
[07:59] <mustard5> crgeist, I think you are looking for a package like linux-source-yourkernelversion  where your kernel version is determined by uname -r
[07:59] <dooglus> crgeist: make a link from /usr/src/linux to linux-2.6.12 or wherever the sources are
[08:00] <dooglus> mustard5: he only needs the headers, not the whole sources
[08:00] <crgeist> im a newbie.. i dont know much
[08:00] <mustard5> dooglus, k
[08:00] <dooglus> crgeist: you using breezy?
[08:01] <dabaR> dooglus: man ifconfig: interface - The name of the interface.  This is usually a driver  name  followed  by a unit number, for example eth0 for the first Ethernet interface. If your kernel supports  alias  interfaces,  you  can specify  them  with  eth0:0 for the first alias of eth0. You can use them to assign a second address. To delete an  alias  interface use ifconfig eth0:0 down aliases are deleted, if you delete the first (primary).
[08:01] <crgeist> dooglus: yes
[08:01] <dducko> sudo apt-get instal linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:01] <crgeist> 5.10
[08:01] <dducko> Thats the back ticks on the ~ key not ' with the "
[08:02] <dducko> Installing Nvidia crgeist?
[08:02] <crgeist> alsa
[08:02] <dooglus> crgeist: looks like the kernel headers are in /usr/include, not /usr/src/linux
[08:02] <crgeist> alsa drivers for the sound card
[08:02] <crgeist> its a laptop
[08:02] <mustard5> dducko, is this valid too, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[08:03] <crgeist> thanks guys, im going to try both
[08:03] <dducko> I dotn know, I know the other way works.. did it a couple times
[08:03] <dooglus> mustard5: I might have been wrong there - looking at his error message maybe he does need the full sources
[08:03] <dducko> I can try hang on, just expiermenting in this install right now
[08:04] <mustard5> dducko, I just ran that command I put up too. it seems to work
[08:04] <dabaR> mustard5: yes, its variable substitution, it seems.
[08:04] <dducko> mustard5, yep it works
[08:04] <aftertaf> hi all :)
[08:04] <mustard5> cool
[08:04] <dducko> hello aftertaf
[08:04] <mustard5> I have had trouble remembering that one :)
[08:04] <mustard5> hey aftertaf !
[08:04] <dabaR> its the ` of variables:P
[08:04] <intelikey> aftertaf
[08:05] <dducko> Im realitively new anyway, just pick up stuff like that, cause its easier, and seems more like the Linux way
[08:05] <mustard5> dducko, same here ;)
[08:05] <dabaR> dducko: Unix...
[08:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> how easy/difficult is it to use two monitors in ubuntu?
[08:05] <crgeist> mustard5: thanks, that worked
[08:05] <dducko> yeah yeah..
[08:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> is it as simple as specifying the output device to mplayer?
[08:07] <aftertaf> hey all 3 of yas ;)
[08:07] <dducko> mustard5, went from pure winxp to pure Ubuntu (Hoary) on August 29
[08:07] <aftertaf> yeah dducko  :) good move
[08:07] <_native_> so helix player doesnt acutally play the standard real formats?
[08:08] <crimsun> _native_: it can't
[08:08] <_native_> thats is so stupid!
[08:08] <aftertaf> lol too true
[08:08] <mustard5> dducko, I went from win98se to Hoary in June.   :)
[08:08] <crimsun> _native_: those formats require real.com's proprietary codecs that are only distributed with realplayer
[08:08] <_native_> fake opensource
[08:08] <Gunlance> Hey all ! So here's my wacky problem. I just installed Ubuntu and once everything has loaded...I get a screen that is full of a lot of colors like a video error any ideas...
[08:08] <dducko> I thought so.. now im breaking stuff trying to mess around with a dapper install, kind  of thrilling... i really need to get a life..
[08:08] <dabaR> Gunlance: what laptop?
[08:09] <mustard5> dducko, heheh you sound as bad as me..I'm on dapper atm too
[08:09] <Gunlance> hehe, no laptop a PC
[08:09] <aftertaf> dducko:  qemu or debootstrap
[08:09] <dducko> You lost me there...
[08:09] <dducko> whats qemu?
[08:09] <aftertaf> !info qemu
[08:09] <_native_> its so frusterating that most site like npr.org only provide their content in real formats.
[08:09] <ubotu> qemu: (fast processor emulator), section universe/misc, is optional.  If you say so.
[08:10] <Gunlance> when do I do press those keys?
[08:10] <dducko> I just wish I could get my Nvidia drivers installed.. heh.. all kinds of pains..
[08:10] <mustard5> Gunlance ctrl + alt + f7 to get back ;)
[08:11] <intelikey> that is how to reconfigure your Xorg  yes Gunlance
[08:11] <aftertaf> dducko:  i d/led a live cd iso and ran it qwith qemu cd.iso and it ran the cd as if i had booted on it :)
[08:11] <Gunlance> er, yeah, but when do I press those keys
[08:11] <hussam> how do I backport a simple application using the .dsc file? I downloaded the orig.tar.gz , the .diff.gz and the .dsc for that application. now how do I build the deb?
[08:11] <Gunlance> to start configuring Xorg
[08:11] <dducko> ahh Ok..
[08:11] <crimsun> hussam: you use pbuilder.
[08:11] <mustard5> Gunlance, try now...go in and come back
[08:11] <intelikey> first.
[08:11] <dducko> I had a second hardrive in here, did a fresh Breezy Install and did a dist-upgrade
[08:11] <Gunlance> right when ubuntu is starting?
[08:11] <intelikey> from the pretty colour screen
[08:12] <_native_> i need some opinions on media players.
[08:12] <dducko> Still have my other Breezy install on the Big drive
[08:12] <mustard5> Gunlance, no right where you are now
[08:12] <pdk> wheee
[08:12] <Gunlance> heh, ah ok, I can not get there right now (dual boot machine in winxp pro right now)
[08:12] <pdk> trying to install ubuntu 50 million times is so fun :D
[08:12] <aftertaf> anything new in breezy worth sending a postcard to my mum about??? :]
[08:12] <pdk> should i be worried
[08:13] <pdk> if it's just sitting there on the "uncompressing linux..." part and the cd drive's light turns off?
[08:13] <mustard5> Gunlance, its better if you run the command before X has started
[08:13] <intelikey> Gunlance [alt] +[f7]  is the gui     and [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]   resets X
[08:13] <dducko> i wasnt on Hoary longe enoug aftertaf to tell ya.
[08:13] <aftertaf> pdk:  ahve you checked the md, of your iso, tried burning at a low speed
[08:13] <mustard5> Gunlance, oh ok :)
[08:13] <pdk> i have no idea how to check md5sums
[08:13] <aftertaf> doh doh doh. i meant anything new in dapper :)
[08:13] <dducko> You in linux pdk
[08:14] <mustard5> Gunlance, you writing all this down? ;)
[08:14] <dducko> Havent played around with it much yet.
[08:14] <dducko> md5sum name.iso  (if your in linux)
[08:14] <aftertaf> salut keikoz  :]
[08:14] <mustard5> aftertaf, I have a fade to black gksudo prompt...thats my most noticeable change so far
[08:14] <keikoz> :)
[08:14] <dducko> Is that what that is?
[08:15] <dducko> Annoying as hell I think..
[08:15] <mustard5> hehe
[08:15] <aftertaf> loool
[08:15] <grace_> im trying to copy the directory of w32codecs over to /usr/lib/win32 but I get a permission denied. is there a ctrl key combo i can use for drag and drop via gui
[08:15] <Gunlance> mustard5: yes, thats why I have not typed till now -_^
[08:15] <mustard5> I think its kinda cool :)
[08:15] <pdk> dducko: nope
[08:16] <intelikey> mysql's default dir ?
[08:16] <Gunlance> uhm, one Q, what do I do have sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:16] <dducko> Not sure how to do it in windows,  think you have to download a program, im sure.. Try burning the cd at a slower rate then your max.  8x is a  good bet
[08:16] <grace_> like to enable a sudo copy or somewthing
[08:16] <Gunlance> what do I do after*
[08:16] <aftertaf> whats the pb Gunlance  ?
[08:17] <mustard5> Gunlance, can you connect to the internet via command line?
[08:17] <melong> ok. trying to play with samba here
[08:17] <pc22> how do i run tightvnc?
[08:17] <melong> is there a GUI that will allow me to mount a windows share? becuase command line just does NOT want to mount
[08:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> melong nautilus
[08:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> the file manager
[08:17] <melong> i do smbtree... i SEE the share but when i try to mount it to any folder it just doesn't work
[08:18] <JonasNZ> any ideas why after i suspend to ram (s3) and resume the computer hangs on a blank screen
[08:18] <Gunlance> aftertag: what is pb? mustard5: Yeah I can connect to the internet while in command line...at least it did fine when accessing FTP's while installing Ubuntu
[08:18] <melong> the file manager?
[08:18] <melong> hmm i can swear i looked
[08:18] <pdk> ok then
[08:18] <pdk> where are the md5sum lists?
[08:18] <mustard5> Gunlance, well when you run sudo dpkgblahblah it will ask you a whole lot of questions about how you want to reconfigure your display....for the most part you just choose the option that is already there by default
[08:19] <Gunlance> hmm ok, but you know when you are installing Ubuntu, and at one point it asks you about the resolution?
[08:19] <intelikey> Gunlance in tty2 open irssi  cli chat client  :)
[08:19] <mustard5> Gunlance, why ask about connecting to the internet via command line is that you could get on irc and ask questions from terminal using irssi
[08:19] <Gunlance> I left that default, is that going to show up again?
[08:19] <choudesh> Anyway for apt-get source * to automatically put it in /usr/src?
[08:19] <Gunlance> oh oops
[08:19] <Gunlance> lol
[08:19] <Gunlance> never done that before
[08:20] <N6REJ> anyone know where mysql keeps its databases in Breezy?
[08:20] <aftertaf> mustard5:  what about the phigh flag with xserver, that reconfigs in autodiscover mode i think
[08:20] <mustard5> Gunlance, once you get the desktop visible you can work on those final configuration problems
[08:20] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:20] <Gunlance> kk
[08:20] <mustard5> aftertaf, yeah true
[08:20] <pc22> hi mustard5
[08:20] <melong> yeah still no go
[08:20] <Gunlance> aftertaf you talking about my problem?
[08:20] <intelikey> aftertaf why phigh ?
[08:20] <mustard5> aftertaf, I'm wondering about wether he is going to shut down the X server correctly
[08:20] <melong> i did a connect to server
[08:20] <intelikey> i like plow
[08:21] <mustard5> hey pc22
[08:21] <melong> its the direct path.. it should work.. but it says it cannot access it
[08:21] <mustard5> Gunlance, if you were on irc in terminal we could walk you through it anyway
[08:21] <Gunlance> ok
[08:21] <Gunlance> so to make ultra sure
[08:21] <intelikey> Gunlance yes he is.   the -phigh makes it only ask on things that it can't default.
[08:22] <Gunlance> how do I run irssi?
[08:22] <aftertaf> mustard5:  i ran that same cmd yesterday and it reconfiged my xserver and restarted the WM without closing down :) sweet
[08:22] <intelikey> irssi
[08:22] <Gunlance> k
[08:22] <mustard5> just type irssi in terminal
[08:22] <intelikey>  /server irc.freenode.net
[08:22] <mustard5> then you need to connect to here ;)
[08:22] <Gunlance> cya'all in a bit hopefully
[08:22] <intelikey>  /j #ubuntu
[08:23] <grace_> if nautalous is so fabulous how come it is not the defaul file manager
[08:23] <mustard5> Gunlance, that is /join #ubuntu
[08:23] <aftertaf> grace_:  in gnome it is...
[08:23] <intelikey> mustard5 join not aliased in ub's irssi ?
[08:23] <mustard5> heheh..I reckon we have totally confused Gunlance now :)
[08:23] <grace_> well then I must be utilizing nautilous to do this file copy then
[08:23] <mustard5> intelikey, they are
[08:24] <mustard5> intelikey, I have a habit of typing them out in full
[08:24] <intelikey> oh
[08:24] <grace_> nautalous 2.12 it is
[08:24] <N6REJ> is anyone running mysql?
[08:24] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  yoursql? no, im running my own...
[08:24] <intelikey> thought i was getting corrected again mustard5, i'm so used to that.
[08:24] <mustard5> intelikey, i was just typing at the same time as you and hit enter without seeing your reply ;)
[08:24] <N6REJ> :P @ aftertaf!
[08:24] <grace_> how can I copy to a permissions denied directory space via sudo or something using nautalous for drag and drop
[08:25] <aftertaf> hahaha i'm a comic !! :P
[08:25] <N6REJ> I need to know where mysql stores its default databases
[08:25] <N6REJ> or should say, databases by default
[08:25] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  synaptic'll show ya if you examine properties
[08:25] <mustard5> grace_, I think you can type gksudo nautilus in terminal
[08:25] <intelikey> grace_ terminal > sudo nautilus
[08:25] <N6REJ> aftertaf: can't, in middle of complete rebuild... long story :(
[08:25] <dducko> grace_, one way... yeah what mustard5 said
[08:25] <intelikey> mustard5  :)
[08:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any command line program one can run to make an app start up in a specified workspace?
[08:25] <aftertaf> erf
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> like "workspacestart 3 command"
[08:26] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER:  i.e; in a virtual desktop? no idea
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> in gnome
[08:26] <grace_> hm
[08:26] <N6REJ> BROKEN_LADDER:  you mean like in a particular window?
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> since gnome sessions still kinda suck, it would be nice to be able to force windows to open in the right work space
[08:26] <mustard5> hehe I have the same kind of days sometimes...everything I type out someone has a different or better answer for...I hate those days ;)
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> N6REJ i mean start a particular program in a particular workspace
[08:27] <intelikey> grace_ if you cp/mv anything to $HOME you will probably want to chown it too...
[08:27] <N6REJ> BROKEN_LADDER: put it in the desktop area that you want it to be in and save your configuration on logout... it will then ALWAYS be there :D
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> N6REJ not for apps that don't explicitly support sessioning.  gnome won't force them.  i have to specify them to even have them open.
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome is behind kde by leaps and bounds in this regard.
[08:28] <N6REJ> :(
[08:28] <aftertaf> desktop war ! ! ! !
[08:28] <N6REJ> lol
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> kde only has a few things on gnome.  and it's ugly as all hell
[08:28] <bob2> yay for subjective opinions
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've _tried_ so hard to make kde not be ugly.  but there's not a single decent icon theme for it that's not.
[08:28] <aftertaf> yay bob2  :)
[08:29] <intelikey> desktop war ?    twm  all the way
[08:29] <_native_> KDE is ugly! gtk rules.
[08:29] <aftertaf> EEEEEEEEEE
[08:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh come now bob2 , how subjective is it really?  i mean..paisley?  who can honestly argue that it's not ugly?
[08:29] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER:  i can. i prefer kde to gnome....
[08:29] <hussam> crimsun: thanks
[08:29] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: blah blah you not liking the colour of something does not make it subjectively ugly
[08:30] <bob2> er, objectively
[08:30] <bob2> anyway
[08:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> aftertaf okay, but it's still ugly.
[08:30] <_native_> gnome looks clean, light, logical etc...
[08:30] <aftertaf> back on topic, eh? ;)
[08:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> aftertaf i know kde has some features gnome doesn't.
[08:30] <bob2> I promised myself I wouldn't get into a stupid argument with BROKEN_LADDER TODAY SO I WILL NOT
[08:30] <aftertaf> beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[08:30] <aftertaf> looooool bob2  :]
[08:30] <_native_> yeah topic change. ;-]
[08:30] <bob2> I WILL JUST TALK POLITELY AND TRY TO MAINTAIN AN OBJECTIVE OPINOIN ON THE COLOUR SCHEMES OF VARIOUS BITS OF SOFTWARE I DO NOT USE
[08:30] <bob2> I HOPE THAT IS OK WITH YOU ALL
[08:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> _native_ it looks more elegant i think.  more sophisticated, especially with my modified clearlooks theme.  i have nice square corners with white window bars
[08:30] <aftertaf> i cant install ubuntu onto my toaster, when i insert the cd it justs melts... anyone help? :]
[08:31] <_native_> man #ubuntu-hardened is always empty
[08:31] <intelikey> and !   kde is so easy to change the colour/back ground, look what is ugly about it ?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> aftertaf lol
[08:31] <bob2> anyway, no one cares what any of you think about kde's colour scheme
[08:31] <bob2> to be blunt
[08:31] <bob2> so, #ubuntu-offtopic, or drop it
[08:31] <aftertaf> __ /j #ubuntu-desktopwars
[08:31] <bob2> even better
[08:32] <_native_> i like a desktop that feels light, looks light but has all the features and for me thats gnome with a custom metabox2 theme.
[08:32] <_native_> and unneccesary apps uninstalled.
[08:32] <intelikey> aftertaf you're the third person with the toaster question today....
[08:33] <aftertaf> intelikey:  ahhh so its a bug then?
[08:33] <intelikey> :)
[08:33] <_native_> yo yo
[08:33] <_native_> ;p
[08:34] <Xcerca> hey
[08:34] <dvius> yo
[08:35] <dvius> welcome :P
[08:35] <bob2> Xcerca: please try avoiding be an ass in here, too, thanks.
[08:35] <Xcerca> lol
[08:35] <Xcerca> thanks bob
[08:35] <bob2> thanks.
[08:35] <dvius> hehe
[08:35] <Xcerca> i'm new,  give me a break
[08:35] <dvius> i got some issues... could I pls ask for some help?
[08:35] <intelikey> he just did.
[08:35] <bob2> Xcerca: no, you were told precisely where to go for help (here) AND given a url to the answer
[08:35] <bob2> then you proceeded to be highly rude
[08:36] <aftertaf> anyway..................  if you have problems with your ubuntu ask your questions, we'll try to answer
[08:36] <Xcerca> your right
[08:36] <bob2> aftertaf: smooth!
[08:36] <drcode> hi all
[08:36] <ctd> i'm disapointed with the sneaking of on-topic'ness in this channel.
[08:36] <aftertaf> ;) bob2
[08:36] <dvius> I really like ubuntu, but I find that even though it's based on debian alot of debian stuff dont work... i'm a total noob, so maybe I'm just not understanding, but here goes...
[08:37] <bob2> ctd: quick, beg people for same name services
[08:37] <bob2> er, "some name servers"
[08:37] <intelikey> no dvius you can not get permission to ask questions......   describe your issue concisely and wait.
[08:37] <aftertaf> dvius:  1) dont use debian based apt packages
[08:37] <aftertaf> called, no reply, will try later
[08:37] <ctd> bob2: i'm waiting for canonical to decide to sponsor me with some
[08:37] <drcode> any recommand web mail ?
[08:37] <aftertaf> da-n+
[08:37] <ctd> :)
[08:37] <aftertaf> wr6ng *c .)
[08:37] <ctd> drcode: squirrelmail ?
[08:37] <bob2> ctd: fair enough
[08:37] <aftertaf> let me start again. wrong pc, sorry
[08:37] <Xcerca> is there an su enable that you have to do,  i set it up during install but now it keeps telling me i have the wrong password
[08:37] <drcode> I install dovecot
[08:38] <drcode> is there recommand web mail
[08:38] <bob2> Xcerca: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:38] <Zukero> drcode : gmail
[08:38] <bob2> Xcerca: now, actually read that, since it explains the solution to your problem
[08:38] <Xcerca> thx
[08:38] <dvius> Is Ubuntu based on Debian? how much? Why do aommands like #dpkg not work?
[08:38] <aftertaf> Xcerca:  which means the password you put in is your user p/w (unless you chose expert install??)
[08:38] <dvius> *command
[08:39] <Zukero> dpkg works
[08:39] <Xcerca> bob2:  you've been better to me than i have you...
[08:39] <ctd> drcode: squirrelmail tends to work  nicely
[08:39] <intelikey> dvius man dpkg          it does work.
[08:39] <aftertaf> dvius:  it does work, you have all the same things you find in debian... just dont use debian repositories in ubuntu....
[08:39] <Zukero> dvius : ubuntu is fully based on debian, but it uses its own packages
[08:39] <Madpilot> dvius: if you've got a stock Ubuntu install, you'll have to do "sudo dpkg <etc>"
[08:39] <dvius> mmmm. I'll try again. Is the syntax "#dpkg" or "dpkg" ?
[08:39] <Zukero> dpkg
[08:39] <aftertaf> dvius:  you sure dpkg dont work on your system? did you do a minuimum install or bork something?
[08:40] <drcode> trhanx
[08:40] <dvius> mmm, that explains alot... hahahaha...thanx!!
[08:40] <drcode> I will try it
[08:40] <dvius> i did full install. I tried "#dpkg" I just followed another website's instructions to the letter when trying to instal
[08:41] <dvius> another package
[08:41] <Juhaz> # is a comment character, it tells shell to ignore everything that comes after it, so no doubt #dpkg will work less than optimally
[08:41] <aftertaf> dvius:  my guess is that was supposed to represent the prompt ;)
[08:41] <dvius> hehe. CLICK!
[08:41] <ctd> dvius: the "#" in webpages usually refers to being root.
[08:41] <dvius> FINALLY!! thak you so much!!!
[08:41] <aftertaf> lol
[08:42] <dducko> Hmm..  THink Im gonna head back over to my Breezy install.. its prettier.. heh..  I am currently in the process of setting myself free from the evil winblows
[08:42] <dvius> thanx...a
[08:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  you're in the right place then ;)
[08:42] <dvius> cool!
[08:43] <dragoran> hi
[08:44] <Xcerca> does anybody in here have a fan controler ?
[08:44] <Xcerca> i just installed mine and i think they're pretty cool
[08:44] <Xcerca> no noise.....
[08:44] <dvius> I can't get my audio apps to function the way I would like. I finally found Win32 codecs and installed it to the right directory. When I run Mplayer it says evrything is fine and then just before its suppose to start playing the stream it throws an error?
[08:44] <dragoran> i have problems with gnome-terminal, when i create a new TAB content of that TAB is blank(black), but when i send some keystrokes, it writes them, but i see then just when i switch tab to first created tab and back.. why? its  very big problem for me..
[08:44] <dducko> Much Prettier..
[08:45] <Xcerca> what mp3 player do most peopl use ?
[08:45] <dvius> good q
[08:45] <dducko> xmms
[08:45] <bob2> dvius: no one can guess unless you show us the error (not here)
[08:45] <aftertaf> bmp
[08:45] <aftertaf> dvius:  try running mplayer from console, see if it chucks an error message in the output
[08:45] <dragoran> kk
[08:45] <dvius> mmmm, what you cant read minds?! :P thanx...just a sec..
[08:45] <dducko> !tell Xcerca about mp3
[08:46] <intelikey> dvius when describing a problem you need to always specify the exact error if possable.
[08:46] <germancito> mp3
[08:46] <germancito> thats a problem
[08:46] <germancito> hahaha
[08:46] <aftertaf> germancito:  for you maybe :P
[08:46] <germancito> hahaa
[08:47] <dragoran> can someone help me please?
[08:47] <germancito> aftertaf, yeah, i'm sure it's just for me ;)
[08:47] <Stormx2> dragoran: With?
[08:47] <aftertaf> gnometerminal pb.... no idea
[08:47] <Xcerca> i really just need to get my sound card working first....
[08:47] <Xcerca> is it true that if new hardware comes out then it takes a while untill somone makes it compatible w/ linux ?
[08:47] <dragoran> Stormx2, fine and then just before its suppose to start playing the stream it throws an error?
[08:47] <dragoran> dragoran i have problems with gnome-terminal, when i create a new TAB content of that TAB is blank(black), but when i send some keystrokes, it writes them, but i see then just when i switch tab to first created tab and back.. why? its  very big problem for me..
[08:47] <bob2> Xcerca: not in general
[08:47] <aftertaf> Xcerca:  true, cos they need to write, test and improve the drivers
[08:48] <dragoran> copy and paste sucks :(
[08:48] <intelikey> dragoran don't ask for help,  describe the problem; include any error message and wait for a sujested fix.
[08:48] <dragoran> yeah.. ok
[08:49] <Madpilot> so gnome-open has decided that .torrent files should be opened by GEdit rather than GnomeTorrent - how do I switch it back again?
[08:49] <Xcerca> sure,     because the drivers that creative suggests for the audigy 4 is the same as for the audigy 2...   so i thought mabey there would be a conflict there
[08:49] <Stormx2> dragoran: I havn't ever had that problem.#
[08:49] <dvius> mmm, ok. for now it can't resolve the host, which is a complete different error, so I'll have to look into that one and get back later...
[08:49] !lilo:*! Services is being restarted in a moment to restore a backup record for a channel. This should not take long. Thanks in advance for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!
[08:49] <aftertaf> it is me being lam3 or does the default kernel not have apm support enabled (hence error message saying this when you run apm) ?
[08:49] <pitillo> hi, anyone know if the installcd of ubuntu load by default the same modules or kernel like the livecd?
[08:49] <germancito> good night to everyone, its time to sleep
[08:50] <Madpilot> ... never mind, figured it out...
[08:50] <dragoran> and then i have Fujitsu Siemend Amilo 7645 and when i close lid of my laptop, whole X freezes, blank screen and so.. i must shut the laptop hardly off
[08:51] <intelikey> dragoran i sujest installing a diferent terminal.   xterm maybe   and see if it does the same or fixes the problem.
[08:51] <dvius> I have a major issue with Nvida too...i install the latest drivers (from website) EXACTLY the way Ubuntuguide suggests and when I press (Ctrl + alt + backspace) it throws me out of X and gives me erros messages. are there any known issues with the latest kernel or anything? I can't paste the errors, cause I reinstalled my system
[08:51] <dragoran> intelikey, hmm apt-get instal xterm<
[08:51] <intelikey> dragoran that was for the first error ^
[08:51] <bob2> dvius: best to ignore the ubuntuguide
[08:51] <intelikey> yes
[08:51] <bob2> dvius: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:51] <dvius> tru?
[08:52] <dvius> ive treated that as my Alpha and omega so no wonder shit aint happening for me
[08:52] <dragoran> intelikey, but i cant do things with xterm which i can in gnome-terminal
[08:53] <intelikey> eterm   aterm  ?
[08:54] <BlueEagle> ...and how do I start proftpd? o.O
[08:55] <Lathiat> BlueEagle: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[08:55] <dvius> how do i know if I have a legacy card??
[08:55] <dts> I want to set up an account that i'm only going to be ssh'ing into via public key
[08:55] <dts> can i somehow not even set a password at all?
[08:55] <bob2> dvius: what card do you have?
[08:55] <BlueEagle> lathiat: ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[08:56] <dragoran> intelikey, mmm... gnome-terminal .. :)
[08:56] <bob2> dts: passwd -l foo, I think
[08:56] <Lathiat> BlueEagle: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[08:56] <bob2> BlueEagle: it runs as soon as it is installed
[08:56] <dvius> geforce mx460 as far as i remember or the model after that
[08:56] <dts> bob2 lemme try
[08:56] <BlueEagle> lathiat: I ain't got /etc/init.d/inetd
[08:56] <intelikey> dragoran try eterm maybe
[08:58] <dragoran> intelikey, i installed it but no binary ... /bin/eterm .. nothing..
[08:58] <aftertaf> dts:  if you set it up to use a key with ssh, you setup your passphrase once only, then all is good :)
[08:59] <aftertaf> dragoran:  run it as Eterm
[08:59] <dvius> got it... Nvidia Geforce mx420
[08:59] <dvius> *Geforce4 MX420
[09:00] <aftertaf> dvius:  word of advice, remove those drivers and use the ubuntu packaged ones, its a lot simpler :)
[09:00] <aftertaf> dvius:  you have the exact same card as me and i dont use legacy
[09:00] <intelikey> dragoran it wont be in bin.     just type 'which eterm '   if you need to know where it is.
[09:01] <aftertaf> dvius:  use the --uninstall flag on the nvidia .run package then follow the nvidia link from ubotu
[09:01] <aftertaf> dvius:  and dop you have the right kernel package in stalled? whats your processor?
[09:01] <dvius> i haven't installed nvidia drivers cause i used apt-get install nvidia-settings and apt-get install nvidia-glx and it stuffd up.....
[09:01] <dvius> processor: AMD XP1800+
[09:02] <dvius> kernel..how do I check again? *blush*
[09:02] <RixiM> uname -a?
[09:02] <dragoran> intelikey, which eterm output nothing..
[09:02] <RixiM> i'm having serious display problems...
[09:03] <RixiM> on a default install of X. on a sony vgn-s460
[09:03] <intelikey> hmmmm and you used 'sudo apt-get install eterm '  and it said it installed the package dragoran
[09:03] <dvius> aftertaf: I reinstalled my system again and haven't tried any nvidia packages since... should I follow "binarydriverHowto" advice a
[09:03] <aftertaf> dvius:  type sudo apt-get install linux-k7 and let it download away... then reboot with the k7 kernel :]
[09:03] <dvius> ah! just a sec..
[09:04] <RixiM> right now firefox doesn't display any words, everything else works fine in it...
[09:04] <aftertaf> dvius:  and then follow the howto for the restricted packages containing nvidia drivers, yeah :)
[09:04] <aftertaf> RixiM:  a bit useless, that ;)
[09:04] <dvius> why didnt it install or upgrade it automatically?
[09:04] <RixiM> aftertaf, yeha, it is... that's why i'm in here.
[09:05] <RixiM> i had this problem with debian before, but i don't remember how i fixed it.
[09:05] <aftertaf> dvius:  for your kernel? cos linux does what you ask it to ;)
[09:06] <aftertaf> RixiM:  there is a package or two with fonts then you remove a plugin and reinstall it... but i cant remember what, it a bit vague as a reply i know..... :/
[09:06] <dvius> hehe... WHAT this doesnt work like windows???! $hit! hehehehehehehe tru..that's the reason I wanted to be free in the first place.. duh!
[09:06] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:06] <dvius> how would i know that i had to install linux-k7? would the installed not pick that up?
[09:07] <RixiM> pango is giving the error?
[09:07] <dvius> *installer (not installed)
[09:07] <RixiM> (Gecko:8295): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[09:07] <dragoran> intelikey, yes i did it
[09:07] <RixiM> do i reinstall pango to fix that?
[09:08] <dvius> Welcome topyli!
[09:08] <intelikey> and eter[tab]    shows ?
[09:08] <topyli> heya
[09:08] <dvius> aftertaf: Im sorry...."restricted packages"??
[09:09] <dducko> !restricted
[09:09] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what files specify the default theme/settings when a new user starts up?
[09:10] <Gunlance> hey anyone remember my ka-razy xorg problem
[09:10] <dragoran> intelikey, its Eterm not eterm
[09:10] <intelikey> see you can :)
[09:10] <dvius> Hey uboto! thanx!
[09:11] <Madpilot> dvius: ubotu is a bot - hence uBOTu ;)
[09:11] <dragoran> intelikey, eterm does not have tabs
[09:11] <dvius> HEHEHE yea i knew that :P *blush*
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> theora/vorbis/flac yayyy
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> Gunlance which one?
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> i fixed mine by reinstalling instead of upgrading
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm using smeg and it won't change my menu settings
[09:12] <dvius> aftertaf: THANKS HEAPS DUDE!! your a lifesaver. rebooting y maching be back in 5
[09:12] <dvius> hehe. *my machine
[09:12] <Gunlance> Huh mustard5 must not be on...well none of the suggestions worked, and I don't know how to use irssi while configuring Xorg for help
[09:12] <Gunlance> I get to the log-in screen (I JUST installed ubuntu) and it is all weird and green, and a video problem
[09:13] <intelikey> check in the settings.  seems it can have.    and even if it does not have a tab to click you can probably still use ' [shift] +[>]  '   to switch between vc's dragoran
[09:13] <intelikey> don't make me install xterm to prove this..... ;|
[09:14] <Gunlance> My video card is a XFX Geforce 6600GT 128mb AGP8x if that helps
[09:14] <dragoran> intelikey, :(
[09:15] <intelikey> just check if the error is gnome-terminal caused or not dragoran
[09:16] <dducko> Gunlance, What is the Video Error?
[09:16] <dducko> And what Nvidia drivers did you install?
[09:17] <dragoran> intelikey, solving it 2 weeks :)
[09:17] <grace_> kewl I got wmv to work in totem via different route
[09:17] <Gunlance> I have no idea what kind of error it is, I have yet to actually start up the GUI, once I get to the login screen part, the screen gets black bars filld with green
[09:17] <grace_> on amd 64
[09:18] <dducko> Yikes, Gunlance Did you install Nvidia Drivers?  And have you managed to login into a GUI yet?
[09:19] <Gunlance> so somone suggest i reset X...didn't work, and somone suggested 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' that did not work, and also I cannot use CTRL + Alt + F1 to login during the weird video problem...because the text is all blured and I can't see crap
[09:19] <Gunlance> Nope, nothing has been installed but ubuntu
[09:19] <Gunlance> and it is ...ver. 5.04
[09:20] <dducko> Whoa,   You can also use cttl-alt-(f2-f6)
[09:20] <Gunlance> no idea
[09:20] <Gunlance> what does that do
[09:20] <dducko> not just f1
[09:20] <grace_> hmmmmm   check this out  what I did was download both codec essentials and mplayer107pre
[09:20] <dvius> Wooohoooo!!
[09:20] <dducko> Its a different Terminzl
[09:20] <dvius> im back!
[09:21] <dducko> Just like the f1, but most likely wont be messed up.
[09:21] <Gunlance> uh..ok, I guess I could try that
[09:21] <Gunlance> bbl
[09:21] <dducko> Hmm..  So you can have irc running on one, and
[09:21] <dducko> work on another
[09:21] <Gunlance> it's dual boot
[09:21] <dducko> Yeah, figured it was.
[09:22] <dvius> im about to try and install the nvidia drivers... if everything turns to cheese, what could I do to "reinstate" my old driver? or roll back or whatever you call it?
[09:22] <Gunlance> I am in windows right now, but i wrote down the nickserv commands so I can try to use irssi to help troubleshoot
[09:22] <dducko> dvius, From Nvida?
[09:22] <dvius> yeah
[09:22] <dvius> sorry
[09:22] <dducko> You installed K7 kernel already?
[09:22] <intelikey> gunlance how ????  never mind.
[09:22] <dvius> yeah
[09:22] <dducko> Ok, and the Headers for that?
[09:22] <dvius> fast internet connection :P
[09:22] <grace_> then I copied essentials/* to /usr/lib/win32 and
[09:23] <grace_> shite I gotta get the right path
[09:23] <bnD> how goes it tonight gents?
[09:23] <dvius> bnD: great now...finally getting some answers...u?
[09:23] <dducko> dvius, You following a tutorial  off the website?
[09:24] <bob2> ok
[09:24] <bnD> dvius: not bad at all :)
[09:24] <bob2> don't do that
[09:24] <bob2> and please don't advise peopel to do so
[09:24] <grace_> then I copied essentials/* to /usr/lib32/win32
[09:24] <aftertaf> dvius:  if it all goes horrible, you boot to console and edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf   change driver from "nvidia" to "nv"
[09:24] <bob2> dvius: follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto backwards
[09:25] <grace_> then I tried to ru nthe mplayer 107 debian/rules but it choked on not finding libpng
[09:25] <dvius> cool...got that...i wont be able to access the net if it all goes to crap, so I just wnna make sure I get it down first..
[09:25] <dvius> thnx
[09:25] <grace_> then I used synaptic to get png the wmv just autoworks
[09:25] <bnD> anyone had troubles with mplayer not zooming? doubling size of player, but video remaining the same?
[09:25] <bob2> grace_: why are you building mplayer at all?
[09:25] <Andypoo> Hmm.. Synapse.. connecting every device all over the world..
[09:25] <grace_> so I download some wmv videos
[09:26] <bob2> bnD: with -vo x11 -zoom -fs?
[09:26] <grace_> to the desktop
[09:26] <grace_> and pictures show up on them
[09:26] <dducko> bob2, hes Wanting to Install Nvidia's drivers
[09:26] <grace_> I double click and it launches totem and plays the video
[09:26] <bob2> dducko: why?
[09:26] <dducko> Not covered on tath page.
[09:26] <bnD> bob2: youve lost me yet again ;) using mplayer how ever it comes by default, and clicking double zoom in the gui :)
[09:26] <bob2> never used the mplayer gui
[09:26] <aftertaf> bnD:  running from console, you have muchas optionadas :)
[09:26] <dvius> hehe. you hardcore bob :P
[09:27] <grace_> even though   mplayer...../debian/rules choked   mplayer still runs but wont open the wmv files
[09:27] <bnD> aftertaf: i see i see ;) well ill try running that from the console next time i spose
[09:27] <bnD> thx bob2
[09:27] <bob2> the solution to your problem is "echo -e 'vo xv\nfs' > ~/.mplayer/config", tho
[09:27] <bnD> ah
[09:27] <bnD> well ill do  that then :)
[09:27] <bob2> grace_: why on earth are yo ucompiling mplayer?
[09:27] <dducko> dvius, just make sure you backup your xorg.conf to begin with.
[09:27] <grace_> i read about mess ing with xine and totem before making it work but I did nt have to
[09:27] <dvius> ok...gonna leave and do the nvidia thing, but I WILL be back...thanx bob2 and dducko!
[09:27] <grace_> no tbothering with mplayer any more
[09:27] <bnD> grace_: why arent you using apt?
[09:27] <dvius> sweet dducko...got that.
[09:28] <grace_> but it was because thats where the w32codecs came from
[09:28] <bnD> good luck dvius
[09:28] <bob2> grace_: you're making this all ridiculously hard
[09:28] <dvius> thanx
[09:28] <dducko> Just head back into here if you have problems too,
[09:28] <aftertaf> dvius:  and write this down too: if it all goes pearshaped, you can : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:28] <grace_> and I want the user of this box to see words similar to MPlayer
[09:28] <aftertaf> you think he got that? :]
[09:28] <grace_> no it works fine now
[09:28] <dducko> Nope...
[09:28] <grace_> donw easy
[09:29] <aftertaf> dducko:  lol oh well :)
[09:29] <grace_> I think the trick was putting the win32 directory in /usr/lib32/
[09:29] <grace_> cause that is not in any of the instructions I read
[09:29] <bob2> it's not a trick
[09:29] <dducko> The Nvidia install is fun,   real real fun.. I learned all kinds of new things..
[09:29] <bob2> it's just where you're supposed to put them
[09:29] <aftertaf> dducko:  yeah, at least he hasnt got an ATI....
[09:30] <dducko> *shrudders*  *laughs at his paper weight*
[09:30] <aftertaf> rage 128 pro paper weight ? :]
[09:30] <bnD> i have an ati radeon, is that why when i attempt to run any 3d game.. even pinball :P it plays at a horrrrible frame rate?
[09:31] <bnD> 2fps makes gameplay astoundingly difficult
[09:31] <bob2> bah
[09:31] <dducko> raedeon 9200 128 meg paperweight.
[09:31] <bob2> all this mindless ati bitching is stupid
[09:31] <dducko> lol
[09:31] <aftertaf> but they are nasty to get working.
[09:31] <bob2> bnD: what card?
[09:31] <bnD> i was unaware of an ati issue, my ignorance must be showing
[09:31] <bnD> bob2: a radeon something or rather, im fine for now.. i dont play games much :)
[09:32] <bob2> bnD: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto if you change your mind
[09:32] <bnD> bob2: thanks :)
[09:32] <Aree> Why Re-Writing CD on Gnome Baker ?
[09:32] <bob2> and if it's suported by the ati binary-only drivers
[09:32] <bnD> for now, my mp3's and my anime are the only media i need, and they work just fine
[09:33] <bnD> /cycle
[09:33] <bnD> heh, guess not
[09:34] <Corin_777> bnD, ?
[09:34] <bnD> gaim apparently doesnt support that command Corin_777 ;)
[09:34] <Corin_777> ./cycle works for me....
[09:34] <Corin_777> ok
[09:34] <Corin_777> lol
[09:34] <Corin_777> /cycle
[09:34] <Corin_777> good ole xchat
[09:34] <calebme> hello
[09:34] <calebme> it's Gunlance
[09:34] <bnD> yea, im not sure why ive been using gaim instead
[09:34] <Corin_777> hi
[09:35] <Corin_777> bnD, its nice to have msn
[09:35] <Corin_777> ;)
[09:35] <Corin_777> /cycle
[09:35] <Corin_777> /cycle
[09:35] <bnD> Corin_777: :)
[09:35] <Corin_777> :P
[09:35] <Corin_777> man, my network is f**king up
[09:35] <calebme> so whoever suggested, to try hitting f2 through 6 didn't work text was still all blurred.. D:
[09:35] <Corin_777> (can i say that in here???  do i need the **?)
[09:36] <bnD> Corin_777: foul language is frowned upon :)
[09:36] <Corin_777> /clear
[09:36] <Corin_777> ok
[09:36] <Corin_777> :'(
[09:36] <Corin_777> anyway, it is
[09:36] <Corin_777> :'(
[09:36] <JonasNZ> i have this: 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[09:36] <JonasNZ> 0000:00:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[09:36] <JonasNZ> , what the best tv software to use that has radio support as well
[09:36] <Corin_777> i had a linux server, windows laptop and linux pc, all mucking up for some reason
[09:36] <intelikey> calebme how did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you couldn't see anything  ?      and are you in ubunut now ?
[09:36] <Corin_777> JonasNZ, freeview in uk
[09:36] <Corin_777> :P
[09:36] <calebme> yeah, I am in recover mode only way I can get the command line
[09:37] <bnD> Corin_777: you do realize the clear command only works locally :P
[09:37] <JonasNZ> Corin_777, im in Newzealand, pretty much cant get any further away
[09:37] <Corin_777> bnD, yes i know. i also know it doesnt work if you type the '/' twice
[09:37] <Corin_777> :P
[09:38] <calebme> intlikey so any other ideas!
[09:38] <Corin_777> do it once, it clears local screen
[09:38] <Corin_777> do '//clear', it shows '/clear' to all
[09:38] <Corin_777> :P
[09:38] <Corin_777> /hehe
[09:38] <intelikey> ah i see.  well if you reconfig the xserver and enable/disable fb it might still work for you. calebme
[09:38] <calebme> what is fb
[09:38] <Corin_777> /reconfigure
[09:38] <calebme> and last time i tried to do it, nothing worked...i got an error screen
[09:39] <calebme> (tried to configure xorg myself that is)
[09:39] <calebme> omg...why does ubuntu hate me all of the sudden ;_;
[09:40] <intelikey> framebuffer access to the vidio card.      use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  and change the settings of how x accesses the vidio calebme
[09:40] <calebme> change what though in how x accesses
[09:41] <intelikey> there is a question it will ask.   read what it asks and answer acordingly
[09:41] <Corin_777> :P
[09:41] <calebme> and uhm...do I have to quit irssi to run the command to config it
[09:41] <intelikey> no
[09:41] <calebme> cool, how do I do that then
[09:41] <intelikey> alt+f3 and open another login session
[09:41] <calebme> and then how do I get back
[09:41] <Corin_777> or alt+f2
[09:41] <Corin_777> :P
[09:41] <dducko> and use alt-f1 to get back
[09:42] <Corin_777> alt+f1 to return
[09:42] <calebme> nice
[09:42] <intelikey> or should i say f#  where #=1-6
[09:42] <Corin_777> alt+[fnum]  takes you to the screen
[09:42] <Corin_777> intelikey, more than 1-6
[09:42] <calebme> j
[09:42] <calebme> uh
[09:43] <Corin_777> juh?
[09:43] <JonasNZ> and 7 goes back to  the gfx session
[09:43] <calebme> alt and an f key isn't doing much
[09:43] <intelikey> or even type 'openvt -c# bash '    where #=8-255
[09:43] <calebme> i am still here
[09:43] <calebme> lol
[09:43] <JonasNZ> ctrl+alt+F[#]
[09:43] <calebme> oh
[09:43] <intelikey> Corin_777 only if they are already open or enabled in inittab
[09:43] <calebme> dear god..still nothing
[09:44] <ilba7r> anyone know how to change the keyboard layout to write with languages other than english (arabic to be specific)
[09:45] <sampan> anyone know how to kill a process that won't die, even with sudo kill #  ?
[09:45] <Madpilot> sampan: unplug the box?
[09:45] <intelikey> but you may be in "single mode" calebme  'runlevel '   will tell you.   but none the less use 'openvt -c2 bash '   hit alt+f2 viola
[09:46] <Corin_777> ok
[09:46] <bob2> sampan: need to be more specific
[09:46] <bob2> sampan: also, some processes are not killable
[09:46] <Corin_777> intelikey, on my laptop, without inittab, F1-F12 works fine just as alt+F#
[09:47] <intelikey> without inittab lol
[09:47] <sampan> bob2, it's k3b -- it hung up verifying a burned iso image ... the window was unresponsive, it asked if i wanted to terminate the app, i said yes, but it's still in the process list and i can't kill it (which means i can't restart k3b again)
[09:48] <bob2> sampan: seems kinda unlikely k3b is the root cause
[09:48] <bob2> unless it does the verification in-process
[09:48] <bob2> which is posisble, I guess
[09:48] <calebme> back, and FB did not ever come up
[09:49] <grace_> damn Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[09:49] <sampan> bob2  probably right -- while it was verifying, konq came up with an error msg for the dvdrw drive -- nonetheless, my main problem is killing the process (preferably without rebooting)
[09:49] <ilba7r> how to switch the keyboard language ?
[09:49] <intelikey> the question reads something like 'do you want x to access ..... in this way?'   or at least it was in hoary.
[09:50] <calebme> not in any of the text did fb, come up
[09:50] <intelikey> calebme did you answer a question that looked like ^ ?
[09:50] <calebme> uh...no..
[09:51] <aftertaf> grace_:  have you seen restricted?
[09:51] <aftertaf> !tell grace_ about restricted
[09:51] <calebme> hmm let me go through it again I guess
[09:51] <intelikey> hmmmmm   maybe you need to try it with low priorities.
[09:51] <sampan> even killing the stalled konq process on the dvd drive didn't help -- still can't kill k3b ... always heard linux didn't need reboots, but i guess that was a myth? ;)
[09:52] <intelikey> -plow
[09:52] <intelikey> plow and plow deep.
[09:52] <intelikey> :)
[09:53] <aftertaf> sampan:  look for kio processes and kill em off one by one. if it comes to a reboot then doing this wont make a huge deifference
[09:53] <aftertaf> only thing that had me reboot is k3b when a burn borks too.
[09:53] <sampan> :/  :(  ;)
[09:53] <Madpilot> sampan: burn ISOs in Nautilus, it works flawlessly here
[09:54] <aftertaf> k3b works too 99.999999 of the time
[09:54] <aftertaf>  __ /j #ubuntu-desktopwars
[09:54] <intelikey> reboot hmmmm i thought that was a windows thing   :)
[09:54] <aftertaf> :)
[09:54] <sampan> madpilot, (a) i'm using kubuntu and (b) the response of use a different ap is really not encouraging -- k3b (by all accounts) is a marvelous app
[09:55] <sampan> aftertaf  there's two kio_file processes and one kio_uiserver -- should i get just the _file ones or the server too?
[09:55] <calebme> ok!
[09:55] <calebme> yes it is set to "NO"
[09:55] <aftertaf> !lart Madpilot
[09:55] <calebme> it's like kernerl framebuffer something
[09:55] <aftertaf> sampan:  do top and see if any are hogging
[09:55] <intelikey> try it calebme
[09:56] <intelikey> yes fb
[09:56] <calebme> just hit alt + f7 right to?
[09:56] <intelikey> no
[09:56] <sampan> aftertaf, nothing was hogging -- but killing the first kio_file process let me kill the k3b one (what does kio do? -- knowing that will help me remember this trick for future)
[09:56] <aftertaf> kde input output disk slave thingy
[09:56] <calebme> er..wait I should set it to yes?
[09:56] <intelikey> startx  and if it didn't work be prepared to reboot in the dark
[09:56] <intelikey> yes
[09:57] <calebme> oops
[09:57] <intelikey> change it first...
[09:57] <calebme> and then how do I start X?
[09:57] <sampan> ooops, i spoke too soon -- it didn't let me kill k3b
[09:57] <aftertaf> sampan:  sudo init 6 ;)
[09:57] <sampan> typos are my enemy
[09:57] <sampan> lol
[09:58] <aftertaf> sqmpor kill X, that'll sort it. doesnt the kde process sys guard thing show you the preocess and any parent/child processes?
[09:58] <sampan> ugh, and kubuntu update broke my SCIM today too -- not a good day
[09:58] <calebme> how do I start X? and since I am in recover mode..anything else i need to do to make sure it like saves that configuration
[09:59] <aftertaf> calebme:  to start x you type:   startx
[09:59] <aftertaf> :)
[09:59] <intelikey> calebme startx.   you know how to kill x   [ctrl] [alt] [bs]    and reboot [ctrl] [alt] [del]  in the dark...   yes?
[09:59] <calebme> mk, hopefully this works
[09:59] <Madpilot> sampan: OK, I missed that you weren't using Ubuntu; I've used k3b myself and it is good - but (at least in Ubuntu) for ISOs it's not needed anymore
[10:02] <intelikey> welp so much for the mandrake guy, i'm like went already; good day to all, and God bless.
[10:02] <aftertaf> ;)
[10:03] <grace_> well I guess thats the line then, totem and xine can run wmv only upt wm8
[10:03] <grace_> at least it plays dvd movies fine now
[10:03] <dooglus> when I copy a big file from my PC to a windows shared drive, my PC becomes very slow.  Can I somehow 'nice' the copy?  The CPU is mostly idle, so it's not a CPU problem.
[10:04] <grace_> I'll leave real player for a learning experience some other time
[10:04] <aftertaf> grace_:  arent there sopme wm9 packs that read?
[10:04] <calebme> back
[10:04] <grace_> aftertaf, codec packs?
[10:04] <calebme> I got an error this time, it said that no screen was found
[10:05] <dducko> Did you just startx or do a full reboot,  Try a full Reboot once first..
[10:05] <calebme> oh ok
[10:05] <calebme> their a command for reboot?
[10:05] <dducko> sudo reboot
[10:05] <calebme> awsome
[10:05] <grace_> aftertaf, or player
[10:05] <joachim-n> which packages do I need for wine?
[10:06] <aftertaf> packages for codecs i think;
[10:06] <grace_> the number 9 is not on the restrictions page anywhere
[10:06] <aftertaf> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:06] <aftertaf> ??
[10:08] <khermans> Anyone try the OEM mode in Ubuntu installer yet?
[10:08] <khermans> how do I access it?
[10:09] <grace_> i just looked over http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/all/ again and still nothing about wmv9
[10:09] <grace_> or other than w32codec
[10:10] <khermans> grace_, thats what you get when you use proprietary codecs
[10:10] <khermans> try w32codecs, and if that fails, yer screwed -- or try vlc
[10:10] <khermans> wmv sucks
[10:10] <khermans> everyone should be using XviD
[10:11] <dducko> G'nite all
[10:11] <SCMark> everyone should use theora
[10:11] <khermans> ehh
[10:11] <afd_> Someone help me with a list of ubuntu repositories?
[10:11] <khermans> pros, cons?
[10:12] <khermans> afd_, you only probably need universe and multiverse
[10:12] <SCMark> http://www.theora.org/
[10:12] <khermans> SCMark, i already know about it
[10:12] <calebme> back and not in recover mode! but this time X failed...and gave me a blue screen with an ok box
[10:12] <khermans> but i dont see why it is such a major advancement over xvid
[10:13] <afd_> is there any way to get firefox 1.5 packages?
[10:13] <Cryptid> wat is the command to delete non empty directories
[10:13] <crimsun> afd_: not an official Ubuntu way yet.
[10:13] <khermans> afd_, maybe from the mozilla site
[10:13] <khermans> Cryptid, rm -rf
[10:13] <SCMark> theora is more xvid is just a codecopen than xvid.  Xvid is an mpeg compression
[10:13] <SCMark> oops.  Didn't delete everything I wrote b4
[10:13] <afd_> will the firefox-gnome package still work with this mozilla firefox official package?
[10:14] <khermans> xvid is mpeg4, yes
[10:14] <khermans> is theora the container format?
[10:14] <SCMark> xvid is a codec.  Theora encompases the entire video compression.
[10:14] <khermans> encompases?
[10:15] <SCMark> xvid is an mpeg codec
[10:15] <khermans> you mean it is a container?
[10:15] <SCMark> theora competes with mpeg
[10:15] <calebme> any other ideas?
[10:15] <brosioz> anyone known how convert .dmg image in iso ? or how to burn on linux ?
[10:15] <khermans> SCMark, how does xvid not compete with mpeg?
[10:15] <khermans> tons of people use xvid rather than divx now
[10:15] <khermans> as they should...
[10:16] <SCMark> mpeg is the container.  xvid is the codec.  Mpeg being not free.  theora is a codec that uses an ogg multimedia container, both of which are free
[10:17] <khermans> SCMark, you are wrong
[10:17] <SCMark> how so
[10:17] <khermans> SCMark, oh o
[10:17] <khermans> yes, you cite the conatiner
[10:17] <calebme> intel you there?
[10:17] <khermans> they are both codecs
[10:17] <marlun> Is it possible to make so that I only select windows if I click on the title bar? I read that somewhere but when I go into System > Preferences > Windows, the option does not seem to be available?
[10:17] <Ekaitza> Hello everybody
[10:18] <calebme> hiya
[10:18] <Ekaitza> I'm having quite a serious problem which I need to solve out as soon as possible. The point is that I've got a Knoppix linux in a live cd, works great and I'm more than happy with it, it works in 50Mb which can be 7% of a cd. The problem is that I've got another 2 boot system cd which I need. I wanted to keep all those bootable cds in one, they told me that I could solve the problem using magic iso to make a boot with three option
[10:18] <Ekaitza> s but the linux doesn't work. Does anybody know how can I built a cd with three diferent boot options in different systems????
[10:18] <khermans> SCMark, only problem is that Theora is not final yet
[10:19] <khermans> no one should be changing just yet
[10:19] <khermans> wait a year
[10:19] <khermans> im all for it though..
[10:19] <calebme> so can anyone help me with my X problem
[10:19] <khermans> did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[10:19] <SCMark> khermans: yeah.  The current version is stable though.  I've got some dual audio with subtitles videos that work great encoded using theora
[10:20] <khermans> SCMark, quality/size < = or > that XviD?
[10:20] <calebme> khermans: Not sure where the guys that just helped me are at, but yeah I just went through that. I no longer get a weird green screen when Ubuntu starts the login screen. I just get an error
[10:21] <khermans> which is?
[10:21] <khermans> i have to go to bed soon
[10:21] <khermans> calebme, you have an nvidia card?
[10:21] <khermans> is this a laptop?
[10:21] <SCMark> I haven't done much benchmarking on it but just looking at the filesizes of the videos I've got, theora is comparable
[10:21] <calebme> no idea, just says that X can not start and gives me a box that says ok
[10:21] <khermans> there should be an error log
[10:21] <calebme> no I am not on a laptop, but it is an Nvidia card 6600GT
[10:22] <khermans> standard monitor?
[10:22] <Cryptid> What are the features gonna be available with Ubuntu Dapper?
[10:22] <calebme> Yeah I guess...Optiquest 19" CRT
[10:22] <khermans> ok, then it should be a standard setup
[10:22] <khermans> calebme, i would just hit enter on every option for the xorg confg
[10:23] <calebme> yeah, but the default that ubuntu set gave me that weird problem and after turning kernel framebuffering i get teh error log
[10:23] <calebme> yeah that gets me the screen of rainbow pixels man, when everything is default
[10:23] <khermans> calebme, sorry dude -- im no Xpert
[10:23] <calebme> lol
[10:23] <khermans> :-P
[10:23] <calebme> damn't
[10:23] <cedjo> hi
[10:23] <khermans> i know
[10:24] <khermans> it is frustrating sometimes..
[10:24] <calebme> where is aftapf..or whatever and that intelsomething dude
[10:24] <calebme> hell yeah it is, this is my first real problem with linux EVAR
[10:24] <khermans> calebme, i would try to pop in the Ubuntu LiveCD and snag the config from there
[10:24] <calebme> and it was working like 3 months ago D:
[10:24] <khermans> heh
[10:24] <calebme> er..howw...would i do that?
[10:24] <khermans> if the config is realy the problem, a live cd will get you back to the right track
[10:24] <calebme> and it is v5.04
[10:25] <khermans> calebme, oh man -- we're all using 5.10 now
[10:25] <khermans> you sould upgrade
[10:25] <calebme> yeah no kidding my cd's have not come yet
[10:25] <khermans> in any event, go to ubuntu.com
[10:25] <khermans> no high speen net?
[10:25] <SCMark> I've asked this b4, but just in case someone with the answer logged on I'll ask again:  Anyone know how to increase the sensistivity of a mousewheel?
[10:25] <calebme> atm, I have two cd's left
[10:25] <dvius> how can I check what kernel i'm running
[10:25] <calebme> to burn
[10:25] <khermans> SCMark, i believe there is an option under System -> Mouse
[10:26] <calebme> so i thought..aw...F it guess I will just get 5.10 whats a good site to get it from?
[10:26] <khermans> dvius, uname -a
[10:26] <dvius> ta
[10:26] <calebme> this irssi, and huge resolution is starting to hurt my eyes -_-"
[10:26] <calebme> lol
[10:26] <khermans> calebme, no cd-rw?
[10:26] <SCMark> khermans: There are sensitivity settings for my pointer, just not for the wheel
[10:26] <khermans> ahhh
[10:27] <Madpilot> calebme: you can upgrade 5.04 in place without downloading the entire 5.10 ISO
[10:27] <calebme> yeah, cdrw, I am just saying i have two blank cd's left
[10:27] <calebme> oh
[10:27] <SCMark> dvius: kernelversion in a terminal
[10:27] <calebme> like a command
[10:27] <dvius> i just installed linux-k7 package, but when i reboot it still selects linux-386, how do i change that, when I choose linux-k7 from grub it says kernel panics and hangs
[10:27] <khermans> calebme, yes it is easy too
[10:27] <Ekaitza> I'm having quite a serious problem which I need to solve out as soon as possible. The point is that I've got a Knoppix linux in a live cd, works great and I'm more than happy with it, it works in 50Mb which can be 7% of a cd. The problem is that I've got another 2 boot system cd which I need. I wanted to keep all those bootable cds in one, they told me that I could solve the problem using magic iso to make a boot with three option
[10:27] <Ekaitza> s but the linux doesn't work. Does anybody know how can I built a cd with three diferent boot options in different systems????
[10:27] <Madpilot> !tell calebme about breezyupgrade
[10:27] <calebme> uh
[10:27] <calebme> in irssie how do I switch acts
[10:28] <khermans> calebme, shift-f1 ?
[10:28] <sampan> calebme, default is alt-1 alt-2 alt-3 etc
[10:28] <sampan> iirc that is
[10:28] <calebme> thx
[10:28] <Corin_777> !tell #kubuntu-offtopic about breezyupgrade
[10:28] <Corin_777> no?
[10:28] <Corin_777> ohh
[10:28] <Corin_777> !tell Corin_777 about breezyupgrade
[10:29] <calebme> uhm, madpilot thanks for the tell but I am without a GUI atm...
[10:29] <calebme> lol
[10:29] <calebme> so can somone tell me what to type
[10:29] <SCMark> dvius: It sounds like you don't want to be using linux-k7 if it panics
[10:29] <khermans> calebme, sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <dvius> ...i use amd cpu and was told that i need to use k7 kernel...that wrong?
[10:29] <khermans> dvius, only if the AMD chip is newer and supports it
[10:30] <calebme> er, and that upgrades me?
[10:30] <khermans> ie and 500 mhz k6 wont work
[10:30] <dvius> its XP1800+, how can I find out?
[10:30] <dvius> its def k7
[10:30] <khermans> calebme, yep -- issue that one command and then do aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[10:30] <khermans> oops sorry
[10:30] <khermans> aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:31] <SCMark> dvius k7 should work for you.  I ran k7 on an amd 700 MHz
[10:31] <khermans> SCMark, yeah i think anything above 550 mhz can do k7
[10:31] <SCMark> but if linux-k7 is panicing, I would keep linux-386 around
[10:32] <khermans> what is the fastest k6?
[10:32] <calebme> thanks so much
[10:32] <khermans> dvius, just go with linux-686 to be safe
[10:32] <dvius> ok... in my grub i have 3 options... i upgraded my kernel twice now and the options still remain in grub loader...
[10:32] <khermans> dvius, remove the entries from the file /etc/grub/menu.lst
[10:32] <dvius> when i choose another option (other than what it selects auto) it panics
[10:32] <dvius> ta
[10:32] <grace_> khermans, I think amd k6 went upto at least 450 but plasuibly 600 Mhz
[10:32] <khermans> sorry, /boot
[10:33] <grace_> hm wait
[10:33] <ubuntu> hey hows it going guys
[10:33] <khermans> good!
[10:33] <grace_> I have an athlon 600 here
[10:33] <khermans> grace_, i definitely had a k6-2 500
[10:33] <dvius> so linux 686 works better? more stable??
[10:33] <ubuntu> awesome!!! where r u from?
[10:33] <khermans> there was also a k6-3
[10:33] <grace_> I think I have a K6 550 on windoz
[10:33] <dvius> ah those where the days... hehehe
[10:33] <khermans> yeah so 550 might be the cutoff
[10:33] <joachim-n> what's the default font gnome uses for window titles etc?
[10:34] <khermans> dvius, not necessarily more stable -- but guaranteed to be more tested lol
[10:34] <grace_> khermans, you can still over clock them
[10:34] <khermans> grace_, you can overlock anything
[10:34] <grace_> all depends on whose mesing with the box I guess
[10:34] <ubuntu> i can clock any thing and everything haha
[10:35] <extraord1nary> Is possible to someone tell me how i can to install any program?
[10:35] <khermans> i have to go to bed, just finished writing Missionaries and Cannibals solution in scheme for class tomorrow .. sucks
[10:35] <grace_> only if youre dollar challenged and hands on techie is it worth considering
[10:35] <extraord1nary> Is possible to someone tell me how i can to install any program?
[10:35] <khermans> extraord1nary, aptitude via the command line
[10:35] <khermans> extraord1nary, or use Synaptic
[10:35] <ubuntu> yip what programme do u want to install?
[10:35] <extraord1nary> what
[10:35] <grace_> khermans, I know I guy who co authored a book on missionaires and natives
[10:35] <khermans> Applications -> Add Application
[10:36] <grace_> african natives and north american natives
[10:36] <khermans> grace_, indians?
[10:36] <grace_> african natives
[10:36] <ubuntu> do u have to learn that kinda stuff at school or whateve?
[10:36] <grace_> and north american natives
[10:36] <khermans> NA natvies are african
[10:36] <khermans> lol
[10:36] <khermans> yea
[10:36] <ubuntu> i wanna be a natie that would be kewl!!!
[10:36] <grace_> it was like a world travellers guide to how the missionaires wwent on tour to fuck thing sup
[10:36] <khermans> natie? friedman
[10:37] <extraord1nary> how i can to install lwp-8.6.skz????
[10:37] <ubuntu> native i mean
[10:37] <grace_> ubuntu, im afraid you dont know what native is
[10:37] <ubuntu> haha opps my bad
[10:37] <khermans> extraord1nary, dont see that pkg
[10:37] <extraord1nary> what is pkg?
[10:38] <extraord1nary> very strange
[10:38] <ubuntu> yeah those people that wear grass skirts and have fires outside and stuff
[10:38] <extraord1nary> I'm nooby
[10:38] <grace_> careful about thinking how nice it would be to walk in someone elses shoes
[10:38] <ubuntu> thats a natie aye?
[10:38] <ubuntu> opps native i mean
[10:39] <ubuntu> toe jams ill wear my own shoes thanx haha
[10:39] <grace_> sadly the english languages encourages breakdown of meanig and such
[10:39] <pawan> Sometimes, when I run hwclock I get: hwclock is unable to get I/O port access:  the iopl(3) call failed.
[10:39] <khermans> extraord1nary, pkg == package
[10:39] <pawan> what's that about
[10:39] <SCMark> natives are the first people to live in north america
[10:39] <grace_> especially for words like native
[10:39] <grace_> natives are the first peoples to have lived any where
[10:39] <khermans> SCMark, they were mistaken as being from India by COlumbus
[10:39] <extraord1nary> When i Start lwp-8.6.skz the program quistion me what format ????
[10:40] <dvius> where is grub stored?? it's not /etc/grub/menu.lst
[10:40] <pawan> khermans : that's a myth
[10:40] <ubuntu> natives rock i used to be one
[10:40] <khermans> and Columbus dindt discover america, he did that just as much as the guy who recently "discovered" my new car steareo
[10:40] <grace_> the tribes of africa are the native inhabitants of those countries
[10:40] <Ekaitza> anybody who knows about multiboot options please??
[10:40] <khermans> dvius, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:40] <grace_> the mongolians are the native herders of mongolia
[10:40] <khermans> sorry
[10:40] <dvius> THANX
[10:41] <olicat> has anyone figured out a way to get scrollpads working in breezy?
[10:41] <khermans> Ekaitza, yes
[10:41] <olicat> touchpads*
[10:41] <ubuntu> far out you know heaps about natives thats good
[10:41] <grace_> ubuntu, you cant used to be a native
[10:41] <khermans> olicat, there is a way to define sensitive areas in th xorg config
[10:41] <khermans> but it is not fun to do
[10:41] <extraord1nary> khermans what is synaptic I'snt have these program
[10:41] <pawan> We're all natives of some place.
[10:41] <Ekaitza> the problem is how can I boot a linux system and a dos system in a cd
[10:41] <olicat> khermans, is that the horizonalscrolldelta settings?
[10:41] <aftertaf> olicat:  but the touchpad is detected by xorg on install....
[10:42] <ubuntu> i once was a native
[10:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  howd it go?
[10:42] <khermans> Ekaitza, there are things like Multi-boot-wizard
[10:42] <dvius> extraordinary: synaptic is a gui package manager
[10:42] <dvius> aftertaf: not good!
[10:42] <Ekaitza> They told me to try with magic iso
[10:42] <grace_> ubuntu, read up on the meaning of ubuntu
[10:42] <olicat> aftertaf, i have "VertScrollDelta" 	"20" - but i have no scrolling.
[10:42] <ubuntu> i lived in a house truck and we did things the native way
[10:42] <extraord1nary> where I can FOUND HIM -Sunaptic
[10:42] <khermans> olicat, dont know -- my friend had a nightmare seeting it up -- i dont use them
[10:42] <dvius> linux-k7 not loading...
[10:42] <olicat> i also can't double tap to select something
[10:42] <grace_> peoples from all over coming together
[10:42] <Ekaitza> everything goes ok, but linux doesn't start
[10:42] <khermans> i have an external mouse
[10:42] <dvius> it keeps loading linux-386
[10:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  ah, whats the error?
[10:42] <extraord1nary> where I can FOUND HIM -Synaptic
[10:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  cant you choose it, is that it?
[10:42] <khermans> dvius, uninstall linux-386
[10:43] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:43] <pawan> If you try hwclock, do you guys also get: hwclock is unable to get I/O port access:  the iopl(3) call failed.
[10:43] <grace_> as in the natives from all lands coming together to embrace human freedoms and diversity
[10:43] <khermans> dvius, that will also remove the grub entry
[10:43] <dvius> sweet...just a sec
[10:43] <khermans> ok, gnight all
[10:43] <extraord1nary> in console?????
[10:43] <ubuntu> my dad put this on my computa i just wanna chat to some ordinary people whats this chat room all about im confused?
[10:43] <aftertaf> khermans:  i wouldnt do that... if sth goes wrong he cant boot.
[10:43] <bimberi> extraord1nary: System -> Administration -> Syantpic Package Manager
[10:43] <aftertaf> dvius:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:43] <khermans> aftertaf, well he said he booted 686
[10:44] <dvius> not yet... just installed 386 now...gonna reboot...be bacl in sec..
[10:44] <khermans> oh
[10:44] <aftertaf> 6896 or k7? wtf?
[10:44] <khermans> oh well
[10:44] <aftertaf> lol
[10:44] <khermans> hehe
[10:44] <aftertaf> what IS going on?
[10:44] <khermans> dunno
[10:44] <grace_> ubuntu, i pretty good with konfuzion so dont worry about it
[10:44] <ubuntu> haha kewl
[10:45] <Ng> ubuntu: if you want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux :)
[10:45] <grace_> ubuntu, theres all kinds of chat rooms but this one is for ubuntu linux
[10:45] <ubuntu> how do you get into other ones?
[10:45] <ompaul> ubuntu, >>/join #ubuntu-offtopic<<
[10:46] <grace_> ubuntu, hows the wheather in new zealand
[10:46] <rhett> weather
[10:46] <grace_> rhett, wheather
[10:46] <ompaul> grace_, take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <ubuntu> hey how did you know i was from new zealand?
[10:46] <ompaul> grace_, please
[10:46] <ubuntu> the weather has been good lately
[10:46] <grace_> ubuntu, just type                          /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <grace_> and then hit enter
[10:46] <Ekaitza> khermans.... I wouldn't like to disturb,, but,,, do you know any way to do it with magic iso??
[10:47] <ubuntu> offtopic
[10:47] <ompaul> ubuntu, join that channel please - this is a support channel there are over 550 people here
[10:47] <Ekaitza> or at least.. is it possible to do it in a windows software??
[10:47] <ompaul> Ekaitza, there is a #windows channel
[10:47] <grace_> ubuntu, just type                          /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <Ekaitza> sorry
[10:47] <grace_> you have to ype exactly
[10:47] <ompaul> Ekaitza, np
[10:47] <grace_> no spaces
[10:48] <grace_> rather no extra spaces
[10:48] <Ekaitza> but the problem is not the dos boot
[10:48] <ubuntu> where do i type it?
[10:48] <aftertaf> ubuntu:  anywhere in your irc cklient
[10:48] <ompaul> where you type this
[10:48] <Ekaitza> the problem is just that the linux doesn't work with the multiboot
[10:48] <SCMark> anyone know how to increase my mousewheel's sensitivity?
[10:48] <grace_> ubuntu, just start typing
[10:48] <grace_> the same place you typed everythign else
[10:48] <ompaul> Ekaitza, it does
[10:48] <aftertaf> SCMark:  in the mouse prefs of your control panel thingy
[10:48] <Ekaitza> not mine
[10:49] <Ekaitza> I tried it
[10:49] <ubuntu> offtopic
[10:49] <aftertaf> Ekaitza:  what is your setuip, for it top not work?
[10:49] <grace_>       /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <SCMark> aftertaf: I don't see an option to increase the sensistivity of my mousewheel there.  Just for my mouse in general
[10:49] <grace_> type everything i did
[10:49] <Ekaitza> what do you mean??
[10:49] <grace_> starting witht the slash
[10:49] <grace_> that is the question mark key
[10:49] <ompaul> ubuntu type>> /join #ubuntu-offtopic << the first character is / no spaces
[10:49] <ompaul> at the front
[10:50] <grace_> ubuntu, come on you can do it
[10:50] <grace_>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <Ekaitza> the question is that the multiboot works ok,,,,, but chose to boot the knoppix,, it doesn't boot
[10:50] <ubuntu> its not working and its fucking me off
[10:50] <ompaul> grace_, /join << works with all clients
[10:51] <grace_> doesnt /j work with all clients
[10:51] <ompaul> ubuntu, >>>>/join #ubuntu-offtopic <<<<<<< that
[10:51] <grace_> ive never seen it not work
[10:51] <ompaul> grace_, it does not work with xchat
[10:51] <grace_> not the arrows part just everythig in between the arrows
[10:51] <aftertaf> SCMark:  ah mousewheel!!! ok. no idea ;)
[10:52] <grace_> im using xchat and it doe swork
[10:52] <aftertaf> ompaul:  it does!!
[10:52] <ompaul> doh you have to use the #
[10:52] <grace_> ubuntu, patience you can do it to
[10:53] <extraord1nary> I have synaptic and now how i can to install lwp-8.6.skz???????
[10:53] <aftertaf> ubuntu:  or edit your server prefs in xchat and set it to login to the offtopic channel on startup
[10:53] <rhett> An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[10:53] <grace_> any buddy can hit those keys on that key board
[10:53] <rhett> Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details
[10:53] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  try to find out for yourself please........................
[10:53] <bob2> extraord1nary: what are you trying to do?
[10:53] <rhett> i get this error msg that file doesnt exist though
[10:53] <dvius> jst rebooted....i uninstalled linux-386 (apt-get says none installed) and rebootm but it still loads linux-386...i removed linux-k7 and its even still in the grub...everytime I install a nre kernel it just adds to the grub and when I uninstall it doesn't remve it
[10:53] <rhett> ive got a dell inspiron 4150 laptop
[10:53] <rhett> thats when installing breezy 5.10
[10:53] <bob2> dvius: removing this will not do anything at all
[10:53] <bob2> dvius: what are you trying to acheieve?
[10:53] <extraord1nary> i want to isntall the program applet for wheather -KDE
[10:53] <extraord1nary> weatehr
[10:53] <dvius> trying to update my kernel to linux-k7
[10:53] <ubuntu> i did hit the keys and its not working
[10:53] <extraord1nary> weather
[10:54] <aftertaf> ubuntu:  type or copy this: "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"   without the quotes
[10:54] <bob2> dvius: then install linux-k7, and select the k8 kernel from the grub bootlist
[10:54] <bob2> er, k7, obviously
[10:54] <grace_> oh hmmm
[10:54] <bob2> extraord1nary: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:54] <rhett> anyone got any idea what is causing my install to fail?
[10:54] <bob2> extraord1nary: you need to install the kweather package
[10:54] <bob2> rhett: did you verify the cd?
[10:55] <extraord1nary> 10x
[10:55] <dvius> i try again, but last time when i select k7 it unpacks the kernel fine and then throws a panic (somthing to do with fs)
[10:55] <rhett> how do you mean i burnt the iso bob that i downloaded how can i verify the cd?
[10:55] <bob2> dvius:  you need to be more specific
[10:55] <grace_> ubuntu   show me again    if you type 3 spaces and then /j #ubuntu-offtopic then I can see what you type
[10:55] <bob2> rhett: boot into 'expert' mode with the installer and select the verify cd option from the menu
[10:55] <dvius> mmmm, ok. I gonna try AGAIN and write it down...be back soon :)
[10:55] <rhett> k
[10:56] <grace_> if you do it without the the space in front a new window will open for you
[10:56] <dvius> wooopeee I luv errors messages... NOT
[10:56] <dvius> :P
[10:56] <ompaul> ubuntu left
[10:56] <extraord1nary> yes I have synaptic at GNOME but now I'm at KDE and I can't FOund where is HE!
[10:56] <grace_> ubuntu, oh he left already
[10:57] <bob2> extraord1nary: use kynaptic or whatever it is then
[10:57] <ompaul> extraord1nary, you can use #kubuntu
[10:57] <grace_> i wonder if ubuntu has used a computer much before
[10:57] <bob2> presumably not
[10:57] <ompaul> that is where those with kubuntu can hang out
[10:58] <extraord1nary> #kubuntu
[10:58] <ompaul> extraord1nary, >>/join  #kubuntu<<
[10:58] <grace_> perhaps there should be a #learn-ubuntu
[10:58] <grace_> or #n00buntu
[10:58] <grace_> ;^)
[10:59] <daemos> hello nightcrawlers
[10:59] <grace_> time to upgrade to #n00buntu
[10:59] <bob2> it's a bad idea
[10:59] <grace_> its gnuwer
[10:59] <daemos> im downloading this ubuntu of yours... how is it?
[10:59] <bob2> creating a channel full of only people who have no idea what they're doing will, surprisingly, turn out terribly
[11:00] <ompaul> bob2, are you sure? ;-)
[11:00] <ompaul> daemos, it will be yours and it will be your new operating system of choice
[11:00] <extraord1nary> How you unstall any program????
[11:00] <daemos> awesome
[11:00] <daemos> because im sick and tired of slackware
[11:01] <bob2> extraord1nary: use kynaptic
[11:01] <harsha> Hi guys!
[11:01] <daemos> not regognizing my internet wireless
[11:01] <daemos> POS! kernel 2.6
[11:01] <grace_> bob2, so would you vote for #learn-buntu then
[11:01] <extraord1nary> How you unstall any program????
[11:01] <harsha> Has anyone come across this error "The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)" while installing Ubuntu Breezy?
[11:01] <daemos> mount /mnt/nopenis
[11:02] <ccooke> harsha: It's possibly your CD has errors
[11:02] <cusco> hi!! I did something bad, nasty, stupid with no sense at all, any try of explaining this would be obsolete
[11:02] <bob2> grace_: no
[11:02] <daemos> has anyone ordered the CD's off of the website?
[11:02] <bob2> extraord1nary: use kynaptic
[11:02] <daemos> I am wondering how long it takes
[11:02] <bob2> harsha: verify the cd as a first step
[11:02] <daemos> Im DLing but still curious
[11:02] <bob2> daemos: generally a month or so
[11:02] <cusco> I lost my /etc/modules file, could some one help me?
[11:02] <extraord1nary> bob2 how i can install kynaptic
[11:02] <harsha> ccooke, Hmm. Ok
[11:02] <bimberi> daedra: 4-6 weeks (iirc)
[11:02] <ompaul> daemos, well you may have a little fight with it to get the wireless card to work - have you checked out the list of cards that work with linux?
[11:03] <daemos> yeah
[11:03] <daemos> I have ipw2100
[11:03] <bimberi> *daemos (sry daedra)
[11:03] <harsha> I wrote it on a windoze box. that must be the issue. :P
[11:03] <bob2> extraord1nary: you already have it.
[11:03] <daemos> but Its my laptop specifically
[11:03] <daemos> IBM Thinkpad T42
[11:03] <extraord1nary> bob2 Where I can found in my omputer KYNAPTIC
[11:03] <bob2> daemos: wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[11:03] <daemos> cant figure out how to turn on and off the WI switch
[11:03] <Syrus> I'm using ipw2200 right now
[11:03] <bob2> extraord1nary: somewhere in the kde menus, I have no idea where
[11:04] <Syrus> on my thinkpad r50e
[11:04] <bob2> daemos: t42 laptops are well supported
[11:04] <daemos> software power WLAN on/off
[11:04] <daemos> yeah I heard ubuntu is great for IBM's
[11:04] <bob2> daemos: function-f5 turns it on or off
[11:04] <Syrus> yer, that's what I'm using
[11:04] <daemos> hotkeys aren't working
[11:04] <Syrus> it's alright
[11:04] <Syrus> software suspend doesn't work with this model though
[11:04] <daemos> and Fn-F5 stopped working in windows a while ago too
[11:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> has anyone here ever had any luck using your pda's wireless data plan as a modem?
[11:04] <Syrus> although I know why...and how to fix it..just cbf.
[11:04] <dvius> bob2: Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel                        audit(1132221464.734:0); initialised.   kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:05] <daemos> eek!
[11:05] <daemos> your kernel just shit itself
[11:05] <dvius> no shit :P
[11:05] <bob2> daemos: that doesn't sound like a software issue
[11:05] <Syrus> no that sounds like you've done something wrong
[11:05] <bob2> dvius: there were 50 000 lines of text in between, right?
[11:05] <Syrus> like specified the wrong partition
[11:05] <bob2> 0,0 seems a bit suspicious
[11:05] <dvius> only before... all the usual. it all looked normal
[11:06] <chicken-man> Can someone help me set up a apache2 server please, I keep getting problems, It won't work on port 80 and when i try connect to my new port i get this error "You don't have permission to access / on this server." ?
[11:06] <Syrus> you can use fdisk I think to list your partitions
[11:06] <Syrus> fdisk -l
[11:06] <dvius> that was the last 3 lines b4 it shat itself
[11:06] <berkes> hey ther
[11:06] <berkes> e
[11:06] <Syrus> anyway, bbl
[11:06] <bob2> dvius: what have you done since the last time it booted fine?
[11:06] <daemos> bob2: well I cant figure it out :\ once I compile latest kernel to support latest ibm-acpi drivers and ipw2100 firmware, etc   eth0 goes down and cant be booted
[11:06] <bob2> chicken-man: er, what did you do to make that happen?
[11:06] <bob2> chicken-man: apache2 by default runs fine
[11:06] <daemos> something w/ my PCMCIA config in kernel i guess.. but ive reinstalled about 5 times in the past week
[11:06] <berkes> does anyone know how to ask apt what package provides a file?
[11:06] <ccooke> hmm. unknown-block - isn't that when you're missing modules for the block device? Been a long time since I've seen that one
[11:06] <JonasNZ> ive installed the nvidia drivers by compiling them myself, will installing nvidia-settings and therefore nvidia-glx interfere with this
[11:06] <bob2> daemos: you say the key doesn't work under windows either?
[11:06] <chicken-man> bob2, i just installed it and it's doing that, I've also reinstalled
[11:07] <bob2> berkes: apt-file, or packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <daemos> I think i disabled itsomehow
[11:07] <JonasNZ> berkes, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <chicken-man> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/
[11:07] <ccooke> berkes: dpkg -S filename
[11:07] <bob2> chicken-man: what specific error do you have in the /var/log/apache2/error.log?
[11:07] <berkes> no results there
[11:07] <ccooke> berkes: that'll tell you what package provided the file, if it's installed.
[11:07] <bob2> berkes: if packages.u.c doesn't know about it, it's unlikely to be in ubuntu
[11:07] <daemos> bob2, i wouldnt know because my ntfs partition is dead thanks to me resizing and moving partitions around :|
[11:07] <extraord1nary> Hello,please tell me how i can to install liquid???
[11:07] <berkes> ccooke: yea, the thing is, that package is prolly not installed :)
[11:07] <bob2> extraord1nary: be more specific
[11:08] <ccooke> berkes: what is the file?
[11:08] <daemos> oh well I deserve it, for not backing up and /or reading about installation
[11:08] <bob2> extraord1nary: do you mean "How do I install the KDE 'Liquid' theme?"?
[11:08] <bob2> daemos: ah
[11:08] <chicken-man> bob2: just lot's of access denied
[11:08] <extraord1nary> I have liquid lwp-8.6.skz
[11:08] <extraord1nary> the program FOR weather!
[11:08] <cusco> hi!!  I lost my /etc/modules file
[11:08] <berkes> ccooke: bob2 (/usr/share/services/)kaffeine_part.desktop
[11:08] <daemos> also the IBM access / recovery is actually a FAT partition but its not usable if you split partition (which i did when I installed Slack 10.2)
[11:08] <bob2> extraord1nary: dude, I told you how to install a weather applet already
[11:09] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  is it a desklet thing? you need superkaramba installed first
[11:09] <bob2> chicken-man: can you paste one line to #flood?
[11:09] <bob2> cusco: that's fine
[11:09] <berkes> the folks at kubuntu quite horrible broke the upgrade to breezy :$
[11:09] <bob2> daemos: heh, I just deleted the partition entirely
[11:09] <chicken-man> bob2: ok
[11:09] <cusco> bob2, if I restart it will be re-generated?
[11:09] <extraord1nary> astetaf Ok where I can found superkaramba
[11:09] <aftertaf> google
[11:10] <extraord1nary> afteretaf Ok where I can found superkaramba
[11:10] <bob2> cusco: no, but it isn't often used.  it's only needed to load non-pci, non-usb non-firewire drivers.
[11:10] <berkes> extraord1nary: in atp
[11:10] <daemos> It just sucks because im at college and depend on a usable wireless access to email attachments in class
[11:10] <berkes> apt, even
[11:10] <aftertaf> being new to an operating system should not invalidate all known techniques... do not depend on us for every little thing, please, its frustrating
[11:10] <extraord1nary> atp?
[11:10] <berkes> apt
[11:10] <cusco> and thats fine? it had there some lines, one of them was ndiswrapper
[11:10] <daemos> so Im stranded for another 15 hours until azureus finishes this supposed messiah of an OS ;)
[11:11] <aftertaf> berkes:  i dont think the version in repos can use the liquid weather, it needs 0.17 RC2
[11:11] <aftertaf> !info superkaramba
[11:11] <ubotu> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.36-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB
[11:11] <aftertaf> 0.37 RC2 i meant
[11:11] <bob2> cusco: then you'll need to put it in there
[11:11] <bob2> I still can't believe there's something called "kynaptic"
[11:12] <cusco> lol
[11:12] <daemos> is anyone familiar with the network infrastructure of Novell?
[11:12] <cusco> but I don't remember them!
[11:12] <daemos> don't know how to mount a network folder
[11:12] <dvius> bob2: ok...the story goes: I installed ubuntu from on an empty drive (yesterday). grub had 2 options (linux <IP_ADDRESS>-386 and memtest). Then I installed heaps of sound apps. it told me the latest kernel was available so i dl it. i reboot. (if i chek grub there would have been 3 options: linux 2.6.12-8-386, linux <IP_ADDRESS>-386 and memtest) then I try and install linux-k7 and nvidia at the same time. reboot nvidia shat itself so i restore
[11:12] <dvius> video drivers (everything to the way it was) then during nvidia shitting itself i remove 386 (cause i think without checkin im running k7) reboot. run uname and see im running 386, reboot, try k7 (SHIT!) reboot install 686, remove k7 (by now my grub has 4 kernel entries and 1 memtest entry, a kernel entry for each kernel ive tried)  does that make sense???
[11:12] <aftertaf> daemos:  which version of netware? a recent one that uses TCP/IP or an old one with ipx/spx?
[11:13] <aftertaf> dvius:  2 secs... can we PV?
[11:13] <dvius> sure
[11:13] <bimberi> bob2: fairly sure kubuntu uses "adept"
[11:13] <daemos> not sure, how do I check what the netware ver is?
[11:13] <bob2> dvius: first, kudos for keeping notes and knowing exactly what you did :-)
[11:13] <bob2> bimberi: oh, duh me
[11:13] <daemos> could someone explain to me the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu other than KDE being on the latter?
[11:13] <chicken-man> bob2: what do you think ?
[11:13] <bob2> daemos: nothing
[11:14] <extraord1nary> aftertaf couldn't find package superkaramba
[11:14] <daemos> lol cool
[11:14] <cusco> daedra, the later doesn't have gnome
[11:14] <bob2> chicken-man: you haven't touched the configuration, at all?
[11:14] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  for the weather applet you'll need to download it from sourceforge and compile it.....
[11:14] <daemos> rightio
[11:14] <chicken-man> bob2: only ports.conf because i would not start on port 80
[11:15] <daemos> is ethereal packaged with the install disc or is it optional
[11:15] <daemos> downloadable*
[11:15] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  by 'it' i mean superkaramba. the weather thing needs the version 0.37 minimum, and apt will only install you the 0.36 version
[11:15] <bob2> daemos: removing the linux-386 or k7 or whatever packages will not do anything at all; they're empty and only used to install other packages they depend on
[11:15] <extraord1nary> I have the weather applet I don't know How INstalled IT!
[11:15] <SAM_theman> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:15] <bob2> er, dvius
[11:15] <bob2> SAM_theman: install libstdc++5
[11:15] <SAM_theman> damn now my hands are tiered
[11:15] <dvius> bob2: sorry....yeah
[11:15] <Moof> can anyone help me get horde/imp working?
[11:16] <ClamIAm> i'm having strange keyboard issues in ubuntu.  it seems like keystrokes aren't accepted unless i hold down the key for quite a bit longer than in other distros (debian, fedora, xandros).  anyone know what could cause this?
[11:16] <daemos> lol bob2 loves to press tab with his leel pinkie ;)
[11:16] <daemos> personally im a ring-finger tab presser myself.. :O
[11:16] <aftertaf> dvius:  you get those messages?
[11:16] <extraord1nary> aftertaf Where I can find these
[11:17] <cusco> I don't know which finger is the ring finger
[11:17] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  have you ever used google?
[11:17] <Tidus> i mash the tab key with my ring and middle
[11:17] <extraord1nary> aftertaf yes many times
[11:17] <Tidus> cusco: ring finger is the 3rd one
[11:17] <Tidus> right beside the pinky
[11:17] <dvius> yeah..."aborting.." try again??
[11:17] <cusco> thats the one I also use :p
[11:17] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  then use it.... result nO 1 is SuperKaramba Theme Archive -, URL: http://www.superkaramba.com/
[11:18] <Tidus> my tab key's a bit ... wonky, so i have to mash it with my ring and middle to get it to respond.
[11:18] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Unless your a chick.  Then every finger is the "Ring" finger.
[11:18] <cusco> oh I got it, I use the middle one, and some times the ring finger :p
[11:18] <aftertaf> dvius:  did you receive my private messages?
[11:18] <Tidus> or i can index finger reach to the one in the center of my keyboard.
[11:18] <daemos> lol
[11:18] <dvius> aftertaf: justchecking dependancies
[11:18] <aftertaf> ok cool ;)
[11:18] <newargus> Hi everyone, I was using Seveas' Breezy packages v5.10 repository at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ to implement Freenx and it seems to be protected now ! Do you have an idea why ?
[11:19] <Tidus> newargus: poke seveas so you can get in
[11:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Anyone try to install Ubun onto a laptop?  I'm getting an error.
[11:19] <aftertaf> cos Seveas has become a dark sith lord, iirc ;)
[11:19] <daemos> a crack epidemic
[11:19] <daemos> x[uNkNoWn] x: what model laptop?
[11:19] <aftertaf> x[uNkNoWn] x:  be more specific (and yes, loooooads of us have done)
[11:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Dell pos
[11:19] <newargus> thanks tidus
[11:19] <ClamIAm> i'm typing this from a laptop :|
[11:19] <daemos> model?
[11:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Inspiron 600m
[11:19] <daemos> you take your laptop and you break it
[11:19] <daemos> you hear me?
[11:20] <aftertaf> !laptop
[11:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I know right
[11:20] <ubotu> it has been said that laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[11:20] <dvius> aftertaf: i checkd dependancies...no what?
[11:20] <daemos> tuxmobil is great :)
[11:20] <aftertaf> x[uNkNoWn] x:  what problem are you having? does it install?
[11:20] <dvius> aftertaf: *now
[11:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> sad part is I work for Dell..  :/
[11:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I am on the part of "Detect and mount CD-Rom"
[11:20] <daemos> www.tuxmobile.org
[11:20] <daemos> find your laptop model
[11:20] <ClamIAm> x[uNkNoWn] x, viva la resistance!
[11:21] <daemos> see if anyone has similiar experiences
[11:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I get..   "Your installation CD-Rom couldn't be mounted.  This probably means that the CD-Rom was not in the drive.  If so you can insert it and try again."
  My keyboard is very unresponsive, I have to type very deliberately to not drop or transpose letters.  Anyone know why this is?  (I've use this machine with other distros and ubuntu is the only one that does this)
[11:26] <daemos> my bad :|
[11:26] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Torrents..  how lame
[11:26] <beck> does anybody know how to get the sound to work
[11:26] <aftertaf> ClamIAm:  have you tried typing with something else apart from your forehead? :P
[11:26] <ClamIAm> that's hilraious
[11:26] <dvius> beck: u need to be more specific i.e kernel version, sound card type??
[11:27] <ClamIAm> argh there's an example
[11:27] <chicken-man> GRRRR I've just installed apache and I'm still gettingthis error when i connect "You don't have permission to access / on this server." :-/ how do i set where it looks for the html files, etc ?
[11:27] <beck> II can play videos but there is no sound
[11:27] <daemos> beck: type lspci | grep sound
[11:27] <x[uNkNoWn] x> intresting..  I told it to not retry the search.. then try again from the main screen.. and it worked.
[11:27] <daemos> actually maybe that wont work
[11:27] <dvius> aftertaf: done! removed 686. added k7, 386...
[11:27] <dvius> reboot??
[11:28] <aftertaf> dvius:  can you choose kernel on boot?
[11:28] <dvius> aftertaf: yeah, just press esc and it takes me to grub...
[11:28] <aftertaf> ok
[11:28] <dvius> aftertaf: reboot?
[11:28] <daemos> is anyone familiar with aimsniff
[11:29] <aftertaf> try yeah, and boot to k7
[11:29] <dvius> aftertaf: so now that the packages are installed what happens?? does the kernel install itself or..??
[11:29] <chicken-man> GRRRR I've just installed apache and I'm still getting this error when I connect "You don't have permission to access / on this server." :-/ how do I set where it looks for the html files, etc ???
[11:29] <dvius> aftertaf: ok....doing it
[11:29] <aftertaf> dvius:  the kernel has installed itself... take a look in /boot
[11:29] <ClamIAm> bah! the googles, they do nothing
[11:29] <dvius> aftertaf: ok...looking in boot
[11:29] <cusco> chicken-man, chmod a+x /var/www
[11:30] <dvius> aftertaf: mmm, yeah, i reboot now and try k7...c u soon
[11:31] <chicken-man> cusco: It works :-D Thank you :-PP
[11:32] <extraord1nary> aftertaf Who of ALL tnings http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~matt-sarah/icons.html
[11:32] <daemos> what is the easiest way to pursue a programming language
[11:32] <void^> use it
[11:32] <cusco> chicken-man, ;)
[11:33] <daemos> cant without a foundation
[11:33] <daemos> besides... errr HTML ?
[11:33] <daemos> and helloworld.cpp