[00:00] <tormod> pnema, yes
[00:00] <PATPAT> im stuck on the last part
[00:00] <evon> usr13: is this line ok? /dev/sda1       /media/datadisk ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro
[00:00] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:00] <tormod> Jimmio, are you on 9.04?
[00:00] <PATPAT> /root/Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0$       i cant install once im here
[00:00] <Jimmio> tormod: Yep
[00:00] <pnema> usr13: what is the command to restart X?  Thanks
[00:00] <tormod> pnema, log out and in again
[00:01] <pnema> thanks tormod
[00:01] <elli222> is there another channel where people might know about device_nomsi=xyz?
[00:01] <delaman> rhinoserious: looks like ubuntu nvidia driver doesnt like my onboard motherboard video card,,,, works find with an add on video card :(
[00:01] <bucky> PATPAT: if you type Dr_Willis he might see you in this traffic
[00:01] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:01] <lcabrini> LogicalGhost: 'sudo lshw -C network' would give you what you're looking for
[00:01] <LogicalGhost> I know wireless cards can have on/off switches because the Windows computer I'm working on right now has one, but it's a big switch on the front - is it possible to have an off switch inside the unit?
[00:01] <bucky> PATPAT: i.e.  Dr_Willis:  my question here
[00:02] <bucky> PATPAT: how old are you?
[00:02] <usr13> tormod: What exactly is pnema trying to do?
[00:02] <PATPAT> listen this is my 3 day using linux
[00:02] <PATPAT> give me a brake
[00:02] <evon> patpat: lol
[00:02] <ScottG> geirha: Hey thats. It was hard to figure out those codes at first but I think I have a pretty cool thing going. I'm gonna color code hostnames and usernames since I only really use 2-3
[00:02] <lcabrini> Jimmio: thousands of possible reasons. Be more specific.
[00:02] <tormod> usr13, low resolution only
[00:02] <P_Kable> Hi, I installed NFS server (nfs-kernel- and nfs-common) and since that no samba shares are viewable from windows clients, any idea ?
[00:02] <ericdb> I just installed firefox-3.5 from the mozilla repository, but "Firefox Web Browser" in my apps menu still opens 3.0.
[00:03] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:03] <usr13> bucky: he is 3 days old.  Give him a brake!
[00:03] <bucky> PATPAT:  sudo  ./Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0.sh
[00:03] <rski> !ff 35
[00:03] <rski> !firefox 35
[00:03] <usr13> tomsku: Oh, ok.
[00:03] <elli222> !epicfail
[00:03] <P_Kable> ff 3.5 ???
[00:03] <evon> usr13: did you see the line i posted for you to look at?
[00:03] <lcabrini> PATPAT: if that is the case, spend a little time to get to know your system before trying to turn it into a christmas tree.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  Huh? what files ehere? the mac4lin thing can install things 'system wide' as root.. the script asks if you want to do so,
[00:03] <ericdb> Come on ubottu, give up the info!
[00:03] <DarkMage26> I has a shut down problem, can anybody help? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/med9c2a7
[00:03] <P_Kable> ff 3.0 works just fine for me ;)
[00:03] <tormod> for firefox 3.5 see planet.ubuntu.com
[00:03] <usr13> evon: Sorry, must have missed it.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  you do NOT need to do 'sudo ./Mac4lininstaller.sh'
[00:04] <bucky> Dr_Willis: oh my bad
[00:04] <kelvy_> como instalo xmms en ubuntu  9.04
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> !xmms | kelvy_
[00:04] <pnema> usr13: THANKS!
[00:04] <usr13> !es | kelvy_
[00:04] <evon> usr13: here it is again, /dev/sda1       /media/datadisk ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> kelvy_:  if you must have xmms - compile it from source.
[00:04] <pnema> Same to you tormod !
[00:04] <bucky> Dr_Willis: tell him to mv the file out of /root and into his ~/ if he has one
[00:04] <tormod> pnema, it works now?
[00:04] <pnema> usr13 | tormod how to check screen resolution?
[00:04] <kelvy_> ok Dr_Willis
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  he shouldent even be doing any of this as root.. :)   My example just 'redownloaded' the file to  a working directory.
[00:05] <ericdb> tormod, thanks for the pointer.
[00:05] <LogicalGhost> Does anyone know if it's possible to turn a wireless card "on" even if it has no on/off switch?
[00:05] <bucky> Dr_Willis: he's got it in /root
[00:05] <usr13> pnema: That will not work.  sda1 is ntfs not ext3    ...and why are you mounting it in /media/datadisk  ?
[00:05] <bucky> i got an idea... you have been using linux for 3 days... dl a 40 MB theme and install it before you know how to log in
[00:05] <Jimmio> LogicalGhost: You most likely don't have the Wireless driver for it. Wireless was always a PITA to get working.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you do NOT need to be doing any of this 'as root' you should not be messing with the '/root' directory at all.
[00:06] <tormod> pnema, xdpyinfo
[00:06] <PATPAT> Hey bucky thanks it worked
[00:06] <bucky> hahaha
[00:06] <CaneToad> Where should I go to investigate I/O performance issues on Jaunty?  If I run a job creating an ISO from a lot of files, system performance hits rock bottom even though CPU is only about 10% or less.  Seriously, performance is worse than windows in the same scenario.
[00:06] <DarkMage26> LogicalGhost: how do you know it is "off"?
[00:06] <bucky> it aint over yet
[00:06] <msbhvn> dmesg
[00:06] <pnema> tormod: states - xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
[00:07] <usr13> pnema: Did you create the mount point /media/datadisk ?
[00:07] <tormod> pnema, run it _inside_ X
[00:07] <BornRebel> what is the Super button?
[00:07] <pnema> tormod, sorry for NEWBEE questions, but apprecrate your help
[00:07] <LogicalGhost> DarkMage26: When I type sudo lshw -C network I get the word "DISABLED" in the output
[00:07] <Jimmio> BornRebel: Windows Flag key.
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> BornRebel:  the 'windows key' is known as the 'super' key also
[00:07] <BornRebel> ok ty
[00:07] <LogicalGhost> Jimmio: How can I figure out what driver I need?
 what is the Super button? <- the key this the Window$s logo
[00:07] <[A]KangB> late
[00:08] <[A]KangB> xD
[00:08] <tormod> pnema, np this is a newbie channel de facto, however there is an official newbie channel
[00:08]  * Dr_Willis sticks a superman sticker over his windows logo.
[00:08] <bucky> PATPAT: how about cat README in that directory so you know what you're doing
[00:08] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:08] <Jimmio> LogicalGhost: By the name of the card. If you don't know it, PM me, I'll help you so you can actually read what I say o.o
[00:08] <PATPAT> ionly see 2 ready me
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  the archive came with no readme. :)
[00:08] <PATPAT> and its about some fonts
[00:09] <bucky> if it says Mac in it anywhere... don't touch it
[00:09] <usr13> bucky What is  PATPAT trying to do?
[00:09] <PATPAT> install a them
[00:10] <usr13> PATPAT: What are you trying to install?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  its not just a 'theme' its a combination of theme/ and other settings.
[00:10] <bucky> usr13: install some 40 MB theme with no docs in his 3rd day on linux
[00:10] <PATPAT> trying to install mac4lin
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  the comments at  http://drop.io/dr_willis show exactly how i isntalled that mac4lin thing via the command line.
[00:10] <ericdb> tormod: I enabled the ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA, but it didn't seem to affect anything.  firefox-3.5 doesn't seem to require any packages from there, and nothing else was installed.  Still no 3.5 on my system.  Do you know what I should do next?
[00:10] <usr13> PATPAT: Are you sure this is something you need?  If so, try to find it in the repos first.
[00:10] <PATPAT> ok let me try that
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you run the commands from a terminal as a user, not root.
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  i mentioned this about 10 min ago. :P
[00:11] <PATPAT> dr wlliss what is the differents?
[00:11] <bucky> usr13: it's so cutting edge there is no documentation for it
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  clarify your question?
[00:11] <usr13> bucky: We should advise him not to use it.
[00:11] <[A]KangB> hi guys! i have to install serveral programs (whit dependences) on 4 computers whitout internet... I need to install all programs installed in this computer. I have read about APTonCD, butit reads APT cache that I have cleaned it. Suggestions? Sorry for my bad English ^^
[00:11] <bucky> exactly
[00:11] <[A]KangB> with*
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  we have told him to not use it. :) i did test it.. the installer and uninstaller scripts do work.
[00:12] <tormod> ericdb, I doubt any "security" ppa is the right one, but I haven't read the docs myself
[00:12] <PATPAT> I mean what is the difference between the user and the root?
[00:12] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Ok, well press on... :)
[00:12] <lcabrini> PATPAT: apart from the install location, you mean?
[00:12] <bucky> [A]KangB: you need an entry for your cd rom in sources.list... prolly ad it with synaptic
[00:12] <ericdb> tormod: I was just following that page you gave me, planet.ubuntu.com.  It seemed to indicate that I should add that PPA, but I don't know.
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  root - the administrator.. you DONT need to be doing this stuff as  the root user. You should not even be logged in as root in any way.
[00:13] <evon> usr13: thanks usr13 it worked
[00:13] <usr13> evon: Very good....
[00:13] <[A]KangB> bucky, I know how to add a CD on source.list... I don't know how to do a CD with the packages
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  login as a normal user, open up a gnome-terminal, follow the commands i used...  note the 'wget' command is one LOOOOOOOOOOOONG line.. not 2 lines, like it looks like in the pasteing i gave.
[00:13] <PATPAT> No i  mean is this for som e security puposes? that
[00:13] <linxeh> [A]KangB: there are sites like this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/howto-download-packages-and-dependencies-for-offline-installation/
[00:14] <PATPAT> yea i see that i will follow it
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:   root is the super-duper-can-do-anything user.
[00:14] <[A]KangB> linduxed, thanks.. reading
[00:14] <DarkMage26> I have a shutdown issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/med9c2a7
[00:14] <PATPAT> oh alright so you are more of an administrator
[00:14] <linxeh> [A]KangB: there is http://www.debianadmin.com/recursively-lists-package-dependencies-using-apt-rdepends.html too
[00:14] <PATPAT> with no restriction
[00:14] <linxeh> this last one looks better
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:   i said root was the 'adminiatorator' just earlier..
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> root is easier to spell. :)
[00:15] <edbian> PATPAT: in windows you are sort of the root user all the time (windows version of it anyway) and that is a big reason that windows has problems with viruses / spyware / malware.
[00:15] <bucky> bill gates is an administrator
[00:15] <tormod> ericdb, I looked at http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/160-FAQ-Where-can-I-get-firefox-3.5-for-Ubuntu.html and you're right about the ppa. did you install firefox-3.5 ?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> 'root is the 'ROOT' user.. the core/first user, from which all other users spawn. :)
[00:15] <ericdb> tormod: I did.  But it was before I enabled that PPA.  I'm removing it and trying to reinstall now.
[00:15] <[A]KangB> linduxed, i'm form Spain. There's nothing on Spanish and I don't know who to browse this on Google in English ^^ thanks again
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Now is the time to start suggesting 'required reading' for linux fundamentals.
[00:16] <linxeh> [A]KangB: ahh - well good luck!
[00:16] <[A]KangB> ^^
[00:16] <PATPAT> alright
[00:16] <tormod> [A]KangB, ubuntu-es ?
[00:16] <PATPAT> i followed your command
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> commands....  :)
[00:17] <[A]KangB> toresbe, nothing there
[00:17] <PATPAT> Note: Xfce users will need to
[00:17] <PATPAT>       manually enable the UI
[00:17] <PATPAT>
[00:17] <PATPAT> i got this
[00:17] <FloodBot3> PATPAT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  read/follow what the installer says.....
[00:17] <[A]KangB> toresbe, about i am looking for
[00:17] <PATPAT> i am
[00:17] <bucky> PATPAT: are you still logged in as root
[00:17] <PATPAT> Installing Mac4Lin UI...
[00:17] <PATPAT> tar: /root/.themes: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[00:17] <PATPAT> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:17] <PATPAT> tar: /root/.themes: Cannot chdir: No such file or dire
[00:17] <FloodBot3> PATPAT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <PATPAT> how do i enable the UI
[00:18] <PATPAT> and no im not
[00:18] <iujees> .
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you are still doing things as root . we told you to NOT do stuff as root.
[00:18] <dvanzo> Hi!
[00:18] <PATPAT> i got out of the root
[00:18] <PATPAT> what do you mean
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  i suggest logging out.. and logging back in as  the normal user..
[00:18] <bucky> PATPAT: don't flood  /topic and use the paste bin
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> You are not out of the root.. as your paste suggests.
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT > tar: /root/.themes:   <------------------ says root right there.
[00:19] <mobi-sheep> Hmm.
[00:19] <PATPAT> oh alright
[00:19] <usr13> DarkMage26: I don't know but you might run a memtest
[00:19] <PATPAT> ill log out after this is finish
[00:19] <BornRebel> I enabled desktop cube in the CompizConfig settings manaer but i dont see the hotkey to activate it so i can see the cube
[00:19] <PATPAT> how do i enable the UI
[00:19] <DarkMage26> usr13: the mem is fine.
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  No.. you dont understand.. you MUST run this stuff as your user.. NOT as root.. thats the core of the issue.
[00:20] <dvanzo> I´m new to IRC..., It´s this chat the right place to ask about Ubuntu installations options????
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you have a mixture of root and your user stuff hanging about it seems.
[00:20] <usr13> DarkMage26: I don't know then...  Sorry...
[00:20] <DarkMage26> usr13: The numbers are different every time it shuts down also
[00:20] <PATPAT> oh ok
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Hmm... theres 3 peopel at my drop.io site looking at things.. heh
[00:22] <dra> I'm running Jaunty with the newest nvidia driver. For developing OpenGL applications, I also installed the nvidia-glx-180-dev package. Works like a charm if I use OpenGL 1.1. But the OpenGL version supported by the driver is 3.0. The header files installed through nvidia-glx-180-dev are only version 1.1. What's the catch? Are the correct OpenGL header files in the repository somewhere?
[00:22] <eni4c> hola
[00:22] <Jonathancw> Hi all , if i install the standard ubuntu can i install KDE after the fact?
[00:23] <dra> Jonathancw, yes.
[00:23] <lcabrini> Jonathancw: yes
[00:23] <usr13> Jonathancw: Yes, but why not cut to the chase and install Kubuntu?
[00:23] <Jonathancw> Is it difficult?
[00:23] <Jonathancw> I've already downloaded the Gnome version heh
[00:23] <leaf-sheep> Jonathancw: Not difficulty at all.  You must be new to linux. :)
[00:23] <dra> Jonathancw, it's not difficult, no.
[00:24] <bastidrazor> !purekde | Jonathancw
[00:24] <Jonathancw> I am new to linux :)
[00:25] <leaf-sheep> Jonathancw: Welcome to the bright side! :)
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> mixxing up kde and gnome - can get the menus a bit cluttered.
[00:25] <PATPAT> brb
[00:25] <usr13> Jonathancw: Welcome aboard!  :)
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> You might want to just try out gnome for a few weeks.
[00:25] <Jonathancw> Does ubuntu work well with the new pentium processors with Raid hard drives?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> The processors have raid hard drives?
[00:25] <Jonathancw> I've used FBSD in the past , I prefer KDE personally.
[00:25] <dvanzo> Given the following configuration: Dual-boot (WinXp - Ubuntu 9.04). Wich is the best way to erase the WinXp partition, boot  directly to Ubuntu and use the free space with Ubuntu???
[00:25] <Jonathancw> hmm.. smarty.
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> Jonathancw:  you do realize kubuntu is 'KDE4' ?
[00:25] <Adremelech|Lapto> They make new pentiums?
[00:25] <dra> Jonathancw, installing software on Ubuntu is very much different from installing software on Windows in most cases. However, once you get used to everything being available, you won't want to miss it. ;)
[00:26] <dra> I'm running Jaunty with the newest nvidia driver. For developing OpenGL applications, I also installed the nvidia-glx-180-dev package. Works like a charm if I use OpenGL 1.1. But the OpenGL version supported by the driver is 3.0. The header files installed through nvidia-glx-180-dev are only version 1.1. What's the catch? Are the correct OpenGL header files in the repository somewhere?
[00:26] <usr13> Jonathancw: What version of KDE did you use? 3.x  or 4.x ?
[00:26] <Jonathancw> hehe 2.x
[00:26] <dekushrub> Does anyone know how I can completely replace firefox 3 with firefox 3.5?
[00:26] <Time`s_Witness> hey all. i installed ubuntu on a computer with vista, resizing vista's partition. somehow it screwed up and cant load anymore. it's in grub menu but it won't load. is this problem often? How can i solve this please?
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> Jonathancw:  i would suggest  trying tnome then.
[00:26] <Time`s_Witness> ubuntu boots with no problem
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> !ff35 | dekushrub
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <dekushrub> Dr_Willis not true, the official release of FF3.5 just came out yesterday
[00:27] <Jonathancw> You know I had an odd thing happen to me the other day.
[00:27] <Jonathancw> I had Ubuntu installed Via windows..
[00:27] <usr13> Jonathancw: Beware, 4.x is WAY different.  3.5 is what I use and I like it.  Some like 4.2 or whatever the latest KDE is and it's widget based.  It's pretty fancy, but too much for me.  And again, it is WAY different.
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> dekushrub:  tell the bot . not me.
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <FloodBot3> kelvy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <Jonathancw> When I tried to go into Ubuntu it gave me:  Buffer I/o error on device SR1
[00:28] <bastidrazor> !es | kelvy
[00:28] <usr13> Jonathancw: You can install KDE3.5 but it's a little more complicated because it is not the default version.
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> dekushrub:  and from what i read of the bot saying.. it will appear int he repos when its ready
[00:28] <eni4c> kelvy
[00:28] <patrickeee> hey
[00:28] <patrickeee> can u please send me the link again
[00:28] <patrickeee> dr willis
[00:29] <Jonathancw> Anyone else seen that issue?
[00:29] <patrickeee> dr willis
[00:29] <Time`s_Witness> can anyone help me please? :S i installed ubuntu resizing vista's partition and somehow screwed vista's boot. it attempts to boot but doesn't succeed. how can i fix that please?
[00:29] <halberd> when upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10 will I keep my old settings, like in xorg.conf?
[00:29] <kelvy> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:30] <patrickeee> DR WILLIS
[00:30] <patrickeee> please send me the link
[00:30] <[A]KangB> linxeh, not usefull :(
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  try 'dr_willis' :)
[00:31] <usr13> Jonathancw: You might be interested in:  http://jaunty-kde3.tokra.lv/
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  link for what?  the http://drop.io/dr_willis ?
[00:31] <patrickeee> Dr_Willis: can u send me the ink
[00:31] <patrickeee> yes that thanks
[00:31]  * Dr_Willis thinks its rather easy to rember. :)
[00:31] <linxeh> [A]KangB: you want to download a bunch of debs onto a cd to install onto other machines right ?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> !tab | patrickeee
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> theres also a chat feature on that web page patrickeee
[00:32] <[A]KangB> linxeh, yeah... but it only have URL to download it
[00:32] <linxeh> [A]KangB: what is it you want to install?
[00:32] <patrickeee> yea i dont like the roots
[00:32] <patrickeee> robots
[00:33] <[A]KangB> mencoder, mplayer, playonlinux, eclipse, ...........
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> I bet everyone is grabbing my conky configs i got at http://drop.io/dr_willis
[00:34] <patrickeee> Dr_Willis: Question
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  Hmm?
[00:34] <patrickeee> I'm just now aware of the difference between users and root
[00:34] <bucky> Dr_Willis: what's the url for your flickr site
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  never used flicker.. just drop.ip
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  no twitter wither. :)
[00:34] <patrickeee> so do we have two profiles
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:   you have different users.. you could have 1000+ users  if you wanted
[00:35] <patrickeee> yes i know
[00:35] <patrickeee> but the users and the root
[00:35] <lbs> who installed HP 1020 Printer under Ubuntu?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  all users have their own /home/USERNAME directory for their own stuff...   no idea what yoy mean by 'profiles'
[00:35] <patrickeee> i have the same user and root name
[00:35] <brainthunk> whats faster xubuntu or kubuntu?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  the root user has all the 'rights' to do amdin tasks
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  xubuntu uses less resources.
[00:36] <patrickeee> yes
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  xubuntu has less features also
[00:36] <patrickeee> i dont understand the only diffferent is i have to type sudo su
[00:36] <brainthunk> well ubuntu is just full of alot of useless crap so i was  wondering
[00:36] <patrickeee> but i have practically the same account with different user profile settings
[00:36] <Barridus> Dr_Willis, huh?  why are you triggering my highlights for no reason
[00:36] <bucky> patrickeee: it has to do with linux security which you can google ad infinitum
[00:37] <Pici> !sudo
[00:37] <patrickeee> i c
[00:37] <lcabrini> brainthunk: you can remove what you don't need. Like gnome.
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  bad tab completion. :)
[00:37] <Barridus> :)
[00:37] <usr13> patrickeee: Are you telling us that you set your user account name as "root"
[00:37] <patrickeee> no
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> I got to find that irssi script that reorders the tab completion via "ESP"
[00:37] <usr13> patrickeee: Ok, good.
[00:37] <patrickeee> I'm on backtrack 4
[00:38] <linxeh> [A]KangB: I'm confused - those things can be downloaded with apt, then you could just copy the debs from the cache?
[00:38]  * Dr_Willis has no idea what 'backtrack4' even is
[00:38] <leaf-sheep> patrickeee: Backtrack4 isn't supported here?
[00:38] <[A]KangB> linxeh, cache has been cleaned by aptitude :D
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  if you want to use 'ubuntu' then use ubuntu. not some variant of it
[00:38] <linxeh> [A]KangB: so uninstall them, or force a reinstall ?
[00:38] <lcabrini> Dr_Willis: Linux for l33t haxx0rs..
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> lcabrini:  im to leet to be leet.
[00:39] <patrickeee> I'm using it for learning purposes
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> !training | patrickeee
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  time to do some learning then i guess.
[00:39] <[A]KangB> linxeh, it will download the program.. but no the dependence
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  and stop messing with eye candy :P
[00:39] <mobi-sheep> patrickeee: You want to ask people in #remote-exploit
[00:39] <nogagplz> Linux is too noobified now though, BSD is for the leets ;)
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> nogagplz:  to try 'tiny core linux'
[00:39] <patrickeee> Well since Mac4lin is Ubuntu feature i figure i come here for the basics
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  mac4lin is for 'linux/gnome' users..  not ubuntu specific at all.
[00:40] <patrickeee> simple question, my sound doesn't seem to work in User mode is there somthing I'm missing?
[00:40] <bucky> Mac4Lin is NOT a ubuntu feature
[00:40] <patrickeee> yea well I'm on ubuntu so
[00:40] <linxeh> [A]KangB: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1100816
[00:40] <bucky> if it was it would be in the repos
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  You just said you were not using ubuntu.
[00:40] <patrickeee> I meant as general bucky
[00:40] <nogagplz> Dr_Willis, peeked at it before, content with crux and hvlinux
[00:41] <linxeh> [A]KangB: synaptic will generate a list of files for you to download
[00:41] <usr13> nogagplz: Linux is like BSD on steroids
[00:41] <patrickeee> Backtrack 4 is built on Ubuntu
[00:41] <ARMENIAN> is there a way to change the background of just one workspace?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  so is a lot of things.. but its NOT ubuntu.
[00:41] <bucky> patrickeee: apt-get install mac4lin
[00:41] <patrickeee> just got extra security feature
[00:41] <patrickeee> bucky i got it
[00:41] <lwells> Any good personal wiki apps on Ubuntu??
[00:41] <[A]KangB> linxeh, ok.. investigating......
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  perhaos its features are what  is screwing with the sound then. we have no idea about it in here.
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  thats not in the repos..  for which we are truely thankfull...
[00:42] <usr13> lwells: pmwiki
[00:42] <linxeh> [A]KangB: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-309151.html maybe too
[00:42] <lwells> thanks
[00:42] <bucky> Dr_Willis: and therefore not a ubuntu feature
[00:42] <linxeh> [A]KangB: look at the post by yota
[00:42] <catharcyst> is firefox 3.5 in the repos?
[00:42] <linxeh> (the 8:28 one)
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> !ff35 | catharcyst
[00:42] <[A]KangB> linxeh, ok... reading
[00:42] <bucky> But PATPAT could package it for the next release
[00:43] <Grzesio> siema
[00:43] <catharcyst> thanks ubottu
[00:43] <catharcyst> i installed it using the tar for now
[00:43] <bucky> patrickeee: go make a mac4lin deb and don't come back until you're done
[00:43] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  catharcyst
[00:44] <catharcyst> ya
[00:44] <patrickeee> the mac4 isnt going to work on here i guess
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  it does too many things to ever be a deb.. :) im
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  it works fine here for me.. i just followed those commands i gave.
[00:44] <patrickeee> I get a bunch of weird errors I really don't want to mess with it anymore
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:   login as a user.. run the commands.. it worked.
[00:44] <patrickeee> Dr_willis it installed fine but just errors
[00:44] <terdman> how would I install fluxbox in ubuntu over gnome??????
[00:44] <patrickeee> I'm in user right now
[00:44] <bucky> patrickeee: reinstall and install it from your user home dir as user like you're supposed to
[00:45] <linxeh> [A]KangB: another option is apt-zip
[00:45] <linxeh> [A]KangB: not tried it though :p
[00:45] <patrickeee> I am in users
[00:45] <lcabrini> terdman: what do you mean with 'over gnome'.
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  to ask in Backtrack 4  perhaps... i guess... of course runningstuff as root.. may of broken things...
[00:45] <patrickeee> thats why my name changed
[00:45] <patrickeee> it could have but its ok
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  try making a 'new' user.. see if the commands work for them.
[00:45] <terdman> umm.. can I switch between the too
[00:45] <[A]KangB> linxeh, apt-zip!? whta's that!?
[00:45] <lcabrini> terdman: yes. 'sudo aptitude install fluxbox'
[00:46] <patrickeee> Your command is fine
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> terdman:  you install other window mangers.. an the gdm login screen has a menu item to select the ones you use for that login session
[00:46] <patrickeee> I think it's just the back track
[00:46] <twig11> What does the "Rescue a broken system" boot option on the ubuntu 9.04 alternate install disc do? Will I be able to access the existing filesystem on the computer after using it? I'm working on an older PC for a friend, and I'd like to get Ubuntu running on it. It seems there is a graphics problem on this machine because the standard Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop cds crash when I try to boot from them, even though the machine has 51
[00:46] <patrickeee> theres alot of things I can't really do
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  i would have to suggest getting a normal ubuntu cd. and installing normal ubuntu then.
[00:46] <patrickeee> Yes, after I'm done with what I'm here for
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  and what are you here for then?
[00:47] <usr13> twig11: "the machine is 51"?
[00:47] <patrickeee> network security
[00:47] <[A]KangB> linxeh, I have found the way to do so that i was looking for
[00:47] <twig11> usr13: I'm not sure what you're asking. I did say it has 512 Mb RAM.
[00:47] <usr13> Dr_Willis: patrickeee  ?
[00:48] <[A]KangB> linxeh, sudo dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz
[00:48] <patrickeee> What?
[00:48] <usr13> twig11: Oh.. well you cut the last few characters off.
[00:48] <usr13> patrickeee: What is your question about network security?
[00:48] <bastidrazor> !clone
[00:48] <twig11> usr13: Oh, sorry, it showed up fine in my chat client.
[00:48] <ravigehlot> Hey guys...we went strictly Ubuntu at home. We do not have any more Windows running in any of our computers. We are looking for a good brand-name printer that is compatible with Linux.
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  good luck.. I dont do 'network security' much..  I just dont run stuff i dont need.
[00:49] <ARMENIAN> is there a way to change the background of just one workspace?
[00:49] <[A]KangB> linxeh, I do a synaptic script to download the packages... then I download it to a folder... ther I run that on this folder. Then copy all to a CD :D
[00:49] <patrickeee> Oh I just meant ill install ubuntu after I'm done with the back track features that I'm here for
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  avoid 'canon'
[00:49] <ravigehlot> Dr_Willis: I heard Brother is pretty good
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:   check cups.org also  befor you buy.
[00:49] <twig11> usr13: 512 Mb RAM and 1GHz cpu.
[00:49] <funkyHat> ravigehlot: HP would be a good bet, and avoid brother (cups bugs)
[00:49] <bazhang> patrickeee, backtrack is not supported here; try #remote-exploit
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  not tried them.. it end to stick with HP. but some HP's have less then perfect linux support.
[00:49] <usr13> twig11: That should do fine, if the hardware is all operational.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  hp has a low end color laser i was looking at last year.. but the linux drivers were lacking then.. they may be better now.
[00:50] <patrickeee> Dr_Willis: Just our networks vulnerbility and what we can do to inprove it from intruders
[00:50] <ravigehlot> Dr_Willis: I need Laser
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:   dont run serveices you dont need..
[00:50] <patrickeee> bazhang I know that
[00:50] <ravigehlot> funkyHat: Brothers seems to be one of the brands with the most interest in Linux
[00:50] <terdman> ok i have fluxbox installed but how do i switch to that window manager now ???
[00:50] <usr13> twig11: What video card does it have in it?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  yep - this was a color laser for $300 i think  (low end model)  I got a 14 yr old HP laserjet 6l  thats still running.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> terdman:  gdm screen.. menu items..
[00:51] <bazhang> patrickeee, so please Ubuntu only questions here. not Ubuntu-based (ie BT4)
[00:51] <terdman> gdmscreen ? sorry
[00:51] <mdg> anyone know how to send files from mp3 player via mtp-tools?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> terdman:  yes.. at the GDM login screen.. theres menu items somewhere to select a session
[00:51] <patrickeee> I'm in school for computer networking I have to learn about these type of things like arp poisoning MiTm attacks , crossite scripting etc
[00:51] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters ravigehlot
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  sounds like you got lots of reading to do.
[00:51] <mdg> anyone know how to send files from mp3 player via mtp-tools?
[00:52] <patrickeee> bazhang I haven't asked any question about backtrack the only question I've asked here was how to install a Mac4lin
[00:52] <ravigehlot> Dr_Willis: NewEgg has a wirless workgroup printer for $124 and it has drivers for Linux
[00:52] <funkyHat> ravigehlot: a friend of mine has trouble with his brother printer, that might be only that particular model though. it's an mfc-235c (I think)
[00:52] <bazhang> patrickeee, and you were answered
[00:52] <twig11> usr13: right. Obviously there's a problem with the machine; that's why I'm using the alternate cd. If I use the "rescue a broken system" boot option, will I be able to get access to the existing filesystem? (Win XP Professional)\
[00:52] <ravigehlot> bazhang: checking....
[00:52] <patrickeee> Yes Dr Willin but I can do two of the three
[00:52] <usr13> patrickeee: Linix is definately for you if you want to learn about networking and network secruity tools etc...
[00:53] <usr13> twig11: If it is readable, yes.
[00:53] <ravigehlot> funkyHat: I see. I am not going for MFC models. I am sticking with just a printer without multifunction
[00:53] <mdg> How do I handle spaces in my mp3 file names when transferring via MTP-tools
[00:53] <patrickeee> for windows we have cain and abel for linux theres back track 4...so far I think BT4 is great
[00:53] <bazhang> !ot > patrickeee
[00:53] <ARMENIAN> anyone?
[00:53] <ravigehlot> bazhang: Nice. Thanks man.
[00:54] <twig11> usr13: I know it's readable, because XP still boots, but it's pretty unstable. I'm not sure how to find out what graphics card it has.
[00:54] <bastidrazor> mdg, file\ name
[00:54] <mdg> ARMENIAN: are you using KDE or gnome?
[00:54] <mdg> bastidrazor: slash and a space?
[00:54] <bastidrazor> mdg, yes
[00:55] <usr13> twig11: After booting linux from CD use command  lspci
[00:55] <CanadianLinux> Can someone give me a hand. New ubuntu install, everytime I run a wine app, the screen flickers, the app eventually loads but crashes.
[00:55] <mdg> bastidrazor: can you give an actual example?
[00:55] <ravigehlot> OK. The model I am looking to buy  Brother HL-5730DW is supported but it has 1 glitch
[00:55] <usr13> twig11: or:  lspci |grep -i vga
[00:55] <mdg> ARMENIAN: KDE or gnome desktop?
[00:55] <ARMENIAN> mdg: gnome
[00:55] <bastidrazor> mdg, Live Music.mpe  = Live\ Music.mpe
[00:56] <mdg> bastidrazor: oh! okay.  thanks!
[00:56] <twig11> usr13: I'm not sure how to boot linux to a command line using the alternate cd. Can you explain?
[00:56] <mdg> ARMENIAN: Not possible to change just one in gnome.  KDE can do that though
[00:56] <ARMENIAN> mdg: ohh, crap, thanks anyway :)
[00:56] <bastidrazor> mdg, same goes for directories.
[00:57] <twig11> usr13: I'm at the main menu with the options "Install ubuntu" "Check disc" "
[00:57] <mdg> bastidrazor: excellent!  thanksomuch  :)
[00:57] <patrickeee> dfs
[00:57] <twig11> usr13: Test memory, boot from hard disk, rescue etc.
[00:57] <bastidrazor> mdg, also try tab-completion  .. Live*hit tab
[00:57] <jeffs> sup every one?
[00:57] <swaj> is Wubi just virtualization on the back end? or does it boot from an image on your hardware? (like Windows 7 boot to VHD)
[00:57] <twig11> usr13: sorry for that disjointed sentence
[00:57] <usr13> twig11: rescue
[00:58] <twig11> usr13: thanks. and I'm afraid I'm going to need some advice going through it.
[00:58] <twig11> usr13: language: English. I can do that.
[00:59] <jeffs> any one hear know how to use the jack connection kit?
[00:59] <twig11> usr13: Maybe this gives you a clue: "No common CD-ROM drive was detected"
[01:00] <twig11> Load CDROM drivers from removable media?
[01:00] <twig11> And I don't have removable media from which to load any drivers.
[01:01] <jeffs> any one hear know how to use the jack connection kit?
[01:01] <DarkMage26> Having shut down issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6a36b976
[01:01] <soreau> jeffs: Either google for jack on gentoo or ask in #jack
[01:01] <soreau> jeffs: Or maybe #alsa
[01:01] <jeffs> thanks
[01:01] <usr13> twig11: What type of CDROM is it?
[01:02] <twig11> usr13: the drive or the disc?
[01:02] <jeffs> how to I whisper someone, im new to ubuntu and irc
[01:02] <jeffs> ?
[01:02] <bastidrazor> jeffs, /msg nick msg
[01:03] <usr13>  twig11 The drive. What type of CDROM drive is it?
[01:04] <twig11> usr13: I don't know. It's internal, and I haven't opened it. shall I shut down and find out?
[01:04] <twig11> Or is there another way?
[01:04] <usr13> twig11: No, there is no other way.
[01:04] <usr13> twig11: What type of PC is it?
[01:05] <wWales> how can i make it so when i type dict in teminal it will run curl dict://dict.org/d: with the search term filled in as a flag to dict, for example dict encyklopedia would bring the dict.org entry
[01:05] <mojo_> good morning everyone
[01:05] <mojo_> it's just crazy to see so many ppl here
[01:06] <mojo_> what a great community
[01:06] <twig11> usr13: it looks like a generic box somebody built themselves. It's got a 1GHz AMD processor and 512 Mb RAM that's about all I know.
[01:06] <twig11> mojo_: well hi mojo
[01:06] <wWales> or is there another way of acessing a dictionary trough the terminal?
[01:07] <usr13> twig11: Open it and see what type of CDROM is inside.
[01:07] <twig11> I'm doing that.
[01:07] <usr13> !usb | twig11
[01:08] <dannyboy997> help
[01:09] <usr13> usr13 throws dannyboy997 a life line!
[01:10] <bastidrazor> wWales, create an alias
[01:10] <DarkMage26> Issue with shutting down system. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6a36b976
[01:10] <usr13> dannyboy997: Ask your question(s). (I was only teasing.)
[01:11] <wWales> bastidrazor: i found a way to make aliases, thanks for the tip!
[01:12] <bastidrazor> wWales, i had some links ready if needed. good luck and happy alias'ing
[01:12] <[A]KangB> thnaks people... thanks linxeh
[01:12] <[A]KangB> bye!
[01:13] <usr13> DarkMage26: Try:  shutdown -r now
[01:14] <terdman> hello
[01:14] <usr13> wWales: It's just:  ifconfig eth0:0  ;  ifconfig eth0:0 <IP_ADDRESS>   etc..
[01:15] <twig11> usr13: okay, I've got my drive out now. It's made by NEC Corporation and it has a model number. What do I need to get it working when I boot?
[01:15] <DarkMage26> usr13: stuck on the other line that states "*Stopping GNOME Display Manager... [ OK ]
[01:15] <usr13> twig11: I dono. Get another CDROM drive
[01:15] <usr13> twig11: Or do USB
[01:15] <usr13> !usb | twig11
[01:16] <twig11> usr13: thanks, will look into it.
[01:16] <bastidrazor> DarkMage26, from my understanding shutdown doesn't turn off a computer... shutdown sends a request to the init(8) daemon to bring the system down  into  the  appropriate  run‐level  ..
[01:16] <usr13> twig11: NP
[01:17] <terdman> anyone use packagekit
[01:17] <usr13> DarkMage26: What happens when you hit the power button.  (That's how I shut mine down.)
[01:18] <ghostofthephoeni> Hi all!'
[01:19] <DarkMage26> usr13: I can only shutdown once it freezes by holding down the power button. Nothing happens when I just press it and then release it.
[01:19] <usr13> DarkMage26: bastidrazor is correct, shutdown does not turn off the computer.
[01:21] <usr13> DarkMage26: I don't know, but sounds like acpi is broken.  See:  http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/
[01:22] <usr13> DarkMage26: If you hit the power button when the system is running, it is supposed to shut down the OS and power off the PC, (if all is working as expected).
[01:23] <bastidrazor> DarkMage26, under power management you can specify how your box will react to a power button press
[01:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> hey - most of the songs on my girlfriends ipod are locked when I try to listen to them on banshee, does anyone know how I can unlock them, or how to listen to them?
[01:24] <intangir> how do i start a seperate X session on ubuntu 9.04.. since FOREVER on ANY distro ive been able to just say 'startx -- :1' and it worked.. now it doesnt
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> ShazbotMcNasty:  if she bought them fro the itunes store.. they will only play on that ipod i think
[01:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> that's no good
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> intangir:  use 'sudo' befor that?  ive not tried it in ages also.
[01:25] <dsdeiz> i downloaded firefox 3.5 from the ppa, what is this shiretoko? :-/
[01:25] <intangir> ive never had to use sudo before it before
[01:25] <intangir> and i dont think it would be a good idea
[01:25] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: I don't know, but I sure am happy with my Sansa Express.
[01:26] <dsdeiz> anyone?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz:  perhaps the code name for the release.
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz:  or the ppa maintainer.
[01:26] <DarkMage26> usr13: I use the shut down command from the desktop to init the shut down. It starts to shut down by going black and it shows "Broadcast message from root@holly-desktop (unknown) at <time>", which then repeats before "The system is going down for halt NOW!"
[01:26] <dsdeiz> Dr_Willis: oh okay.. so it's still firefox 3.5?
[01:26] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: I just rip my own CDs
[01:26] <tenach> Shiretoko is the developer milestone for the latest Firefox
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz:  i imagine 3.5 will be in the normal repos soon enough
[01:27] <ShazbotMcNasty> usr13, it's actually not my ipod - it's my girlfriends, and she wanted to listen to her music on her computer
[01:27] <dsdeiz> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks.. then I guess I'll wait
[01:27] <zerwas> testdisk shows a partition size of 598939482 TiB
[01:27] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: Copy it to the computer first.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> ShazbotMcNasty:  if she bought the tunes from the itunes store.. i dont think she can. not without 'cracking' the DRM?
[01:27] <ShazbotMcNasty> somewhere it said I can burn then on an audio cd and then rip them onto the computer, but that sounds like a lot of hassle, and somewhat expensive considering she's got over 60 gigs of music
[01:28] <ShazbotMcNasty>  :/
[01:28] <dunks> yay to DRM ._.
[01:28] <dunks> Although I think you can unlock them if you use iTunes via her account details
[01:28] <dunks> but I'm not sure, and that's only with iTunes
[01:28] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: I think you first need to jailbreak it.
[01:29] <jrib> ShazbotMcNasty: you should be contacting apple about this.
[01:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> I don't have the ipod with me, but I'll try to copy them to her computer or something...
[01:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> that's true
[01:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> although they probably don't give a flip
[01:29] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: And then you can just copy the music to your /home/user/music directory, (or where-ever you want).
[01:29] <jeffrey_> hey when I mount a directory where is it located in the filesystem?
[01:29] <dunks> depends where you mount it
[01:29] <jeffrey_> like via sftp
[01:30] <jrib> ShazbotMcNasty: if that's true, then you should reconsider giving them money.  But whenever I've dealt with apple customer service they have been great
[01:30] <ShazbotMcNasty> if it'll let me..
[01:30] <jrib> jeffrey_: where you mounted it
[01:30] <ShazbotMcNasty> I shall try
[01:30] <ShazbotMcNasty> should I call them or something?
[01:30] <jeffrey_> using the "connect to server" functionality, I mounted it through that
[01:30] <dunks> try 'mounted'
[01:30] <dunks> it'll tell you.
[01:30] <jrib> ShazbotMcNasty: worth a try
[01:30] <jrib> jeffrey_: ~/.gvfs if you need a way to get to it on the command line
[01:31] <jeffrey_> jrib, thats exactly what I needed! excellent, thanks
[01:31] <mrpockets> ohhi
[01:31] <zerothis> How do I share folder on the network. the share tab is gone from the properties?
[01:31] <songer> hello people
[01:31] <mrpockets> zerothis, so do it the real way and edit samba.conf
[01:31] <songer> how can i update tu sid?
[01:31] <usr13> zerothis: scp
[01:32] <jrib> songer: are you using ubuntu?
[01:32] <usr13> zerothis: or:  nfs
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> songer:  ask in #debian?
[01:32] <zerothis> samba, for NSF shares?
[01:32] <ilyas> what is best hard drive ? western digital or sagate or matrox
[01:32] <songer> sorry
[01:32] <usr13> zerothis: Yes
[01:32] <jrib> !ot | ilyas
[01:32] <jrib> ilyas: try ##hardware maybe
[01:32] <usr13> !nfs | zerothis
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> ilyas:  i had a 500gb hd die. seagate.. and they gave me no hassles with their warrenty. I will be getting seagate more often in the future.
[01:33] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[01:33]  * Dr_Willis shuts up now.
[01:33] <dunks> lo
[01:33] <Tetracomm> How do I open the address bar in Nautilus?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> Tetracomm:  if its hidden.. theres a menu item to show it
[01:33] <mrpockets> Dr_Willis, we've been seeing a TON of Maxtor 2 gig externals die lately (cough i'm off topic cough)
[01:33] <bastidrazor> mrpockets, 2gig.. i'd kill them too
[01:33] <mrpockets> *2TB
[01:34] <Tenkawa> !ff3.5
[01:34] <hydester> i think my 4gb thumbdrive is hosed/  it suddenly says "no medium found" when i try to access it.  anybody know of any tools to help troubleshoot this further?
[01:34] <zerothis> usr13: THat's terribly complicated what happened to the simpe right-click, share, shrer this folder?
[01:34] <Tetracomm> Which item?
[01:34] <Joelito> what happen to ubuntu.org :\
[01:34] <jeffrey_> Firefox is out!!
[01:34] <mrpockets> THE BOX IS OUT?!
[01:34] <mrpockets> s/b/f
[01:35] <ilyas> matrox
[01:35] <zerothis> jeffrey_: agreed, Firefox is out the window
[01:35] <DarkMage26> how do I find what version of acpi I'm running?
[01:35] <jeffrey_> what is up with ubuntu.org?
[01:35] <bastidrazor> DarkMage26, acpi -v
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> jeffrey_:  you mean to imply that the site is non-functional?
[01:35] <DarkMage26> bastidrazor: thanks
[01:35] <Simetrical> Is the firefox-3.5 package in Jaunty going to have the final release installed as an update?
[01:35] <Joelito> Dr_Willis: I do :)
[01:36] <Simetrical> Ah, looks like it, never mind.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> Then youy should say so. :P
[01:36] <dragon_> a simple command to create a disk image of an external HDD?
[01:36] <mrpockets> dd
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> dragon_:  dd if=/dev/hdXX of=image
[01:36] <jeffrey_> Dr_Willis, the site is a redirect
[01:36] <dragon_> Dr_Willis: will it take care of the size and format and everything?
[01:37] <Joelito> well..direct to site http://www.ubuntu.com/ :)
[01:37] <wWales> is there a way to focus a window from terminal?
[01:38] <mrpockets> wWales, thats a great question...
[01:38] <DarkMage26> usr13: does a desktop need acpi installed to shut down correctly?
[01:38] <zerothis> wWales: maybe zenity but I don't know
[01:38] <usr13> DarkMage26: Yes
[01:39] <zerothis> wWales: KDE windows have options using QT commands
[01:39] <Godel-Paradox> how can i create an iso from cd?
[01:39] <wWales> mrpockets: i know oyu could alt+tab but with 10+ windows running it get tiresome at times, but id like to have a way to run something like "focus firefox"
[01:40] <zerothis> Godel-Paradox: Add/Remove programs search for iso and choose an app to install. there's a command line way to do it also
[01:40] <mrpockets> isn't that what the mouse is for?
[01:40] <mrpockets> wWales,  you have Compiz running?
[01:40] <usr13> DarkMage26: apt-get install acpi  acpid acpi-support
[01:41] <wWales> mrppckets: no i havent
[01:41] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: mkisofs
[01:41] <usr13> !mkisofs | Godel-Paradox
[01:41] <mrpockets> if you install Compiz there're some windows flippers that make it a little more convienant to organize a larger multitude of windows
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> dragon_:  nope.. wont take care of much of anything.. thats not what you asked for.
[01:41] <wWales> zerothis: the QT 4 Settings in gnome doesnt allow me to set any terminal commands
[01:42] <shino__> HEY i just finished watching starwars in the terminal haha
[01:42] <owh> Hi folks, trying to update Gutsy to Hardy. Need to bring Gutsy up to date, that is, the last released packages. The software sources have been set to main server, but the archive shows 404 errors. What do I do next?
[01:42] <shino__> HEY i just finished watching starwars in the terminal haha
[01:42] <DarkMage26> usr13: then what?
[01:42] <mrpockets> shino__, ?
[01:43] <shino__> idk just
[01:43] <under> Hi, how can I add program in startup?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[01:43] <shino__> just wondering is there more than just starwars?
[01:43] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: Applications like k3b do it, but can be done from CLI and I think it's something like:  mkisofs -o some-name.ios  /media/cdrom/
[01:43] <wWales> shino_: try this; apt-get moo
[01:43] <under> Hi, how can I add program in startup *by shell*?
[01:43] <usr13> DarkMage26: Then try it and see if it works.
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> shino__:  mplayer has an 'ascii output' feature that lets you watch anything in the console.
[01:44] <mrpockets> shino__, or aptitude -v moo
[01:44] <usr13> DarkMage26: reboot
[01:44] <mrpockets> shino__, or aptitude -vv moo
[01:44] <InevGlitch> Hi all.  I'm in dire need of some assistance.  I posted a thread on the forums, but no responses and it's been a couple days.
[01:44] <shino__> ok let me check it out
[01:44] <dunks> What's the link? :)
[01:44] <InevGlitch> Any chance someone can help me out?
[01:44] <InevGlitch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200009
[01:44] <mrpockets> inversions, you're in luck, because I'm in dire need of answering some questions
[01:45] <mrpockets> except reguardless how dire my need IS, i'm unable to fulfill unless you ask one..
[01:45] <InevGlitch> I posted a link to my thread, it's all explained in there to the best of my knowledge.
[01:45] <mrpockets> so either reword yourself, or give me a link
[01:45] <mrpockets> I'm not about to go splunking through the forums
[01:45] <kevin__>  snowcavalier
[01:45] <InevGlitch> Basically, my computer won't load the gui, I need help troubleshooting.
[01:45] <n1lqj> question:  apache2 I have added Authenticated directories to my httpd.conf and this works, but now the directories are hidden, is there an option to make them visible in apache?
[01:46] <shino__> haha funny
[01:46] <owh> Never mind, this tells it all: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[01:46] <mrpockets> shino__, whats the startwars in terminal you speak of?
[01:47] <DarkMage26> usr13: no such luck. still need to hold the power button to complete the shutdown. :(
[01:47] <shino__> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl     type that in the terminal
[01:47] <dunks> ############################################################]''
[01:47] <shino__> you will see star wars like never before
[01:47] <shino__> haha
[01:47] <kpas> Question: I need to manually change my screen resolution but not via the GUI interface because it only allows me to select 800xxxx  I am running 9.04 desktop
[01:47] <dahlia> I just upgraded my video card in my 8.04 x64 system to a nvidia 9800 from an 8600. How can I make sure I have the latest drivers?
[01:48] <mrpockets> HAHAHAHAHAHAA
[01:48] <wWales> somehow, the terminal reminds me of Edward, in Cowboy Bebop, they have the same style?
[01:48] <ctmjr> dahlia: open nvidia-settings it will tell what driver ver. you have
[01:48] <DarkMage26> I have a shut down problem. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m531b0a3
[01:48] <JdGordon> I've got a problem with autofs... if I manually mount  a smb share like this "sudo mount -o username=guest,password= //server/stuff /media/temp/" it works fine, but if I fix the /etc/auto.smb file to look like "mountopts="-fstype=cifs -o username=guest,password="" and then goto /smb/server/stuff if works, but the directory listing keeps being the same as whats in /smb/server.... any ideas?
[01:48] <shino__> haha so im guessing you were able to see starwars?
[01:48] <dahlia> ty ctmjr, where do I find that?
[01:48] <mrpockets> this is freak'en halarious
[01:49] <shino__> haha i know!!
[01:49] <voss> dahlia, What drivers are you currently running?
[01:50] <ctmjr> dahlia: i am not sure in gnome xfce it is in settings you can type nvidia-settings in a teminal
[01:50] <dahlia> the hardware drivers dialog says NVIDIA accellerated graphics driver (latest cards)
[01:50] <ctmjr> *terminal
[01:50] <voss> dahlia system----preferences----hardware drivers
[01:50] <dahlia> ty ctmjr
[01:50] <dahlia> got that open now voss
[01:51] <wWales> shino_: i had heard about this easter egg but i hadnt watched it until now, haha
[01:51] <voss> 8600 and the 9800 should use the same drivers
[01:51] <shino__> haha
[01:51] <dahlia> kk ty voss :)
[01:51] <shino__> i had been putting it off for a while
[01:51] <shino__> haha
[01:51] <kpas> Question: I need to manually change my screen resolution but not via the GUI interface because it only allows me to select 800xxxx  I am running 9.04 desktop
[01:51] <voss> If your using version 180 youre fine
[01:52] <wWales> kpas; try using the xrandr command
[01:52] <mrpockets> could you make an alaias for the command sudo rm -rf / to just echo something like "Jesus you're a noob!"
[01:52] <mrpockets> ?
[01:52] <bazhang> shino__, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <mrpockets> **DISCLAIMER DO NOT! TRY TYPIONG THAT
[01:52] <shino__> haha ok?
[01:53] <kpas> thansk will try
[01:53] <bazhang> !ot > mrpockets
[01:54] <dahlia> hmm I guess I have version 169.12
[01:54] <dahlia> can I update that with aptitude?
[01:55] <wWales> aside to mrpockets command he doesnt want you to run: its the equivalent of "format c:" in winbased systems
[01:55] <Guest69400> alguien que sepa como configurar mi propio servidor IRC
[01:55] <Guest69400> :d
[01:56] <dragon_> !es | Guest69400
[01:57] <JdGordon> anyone use autofs and samba shares?
[01:57] <BitWraith> when I add/trust bluetooth devices, where is this convfiguration saved?
[01:57] <nathaniel_> hey guys i've just tried to login to terminal as sudo but gives me an authentication error... any ideas?
[01:58] <BitWraith> nathaniel_: log in as a normal user, then use sudo
[01:58] <BitWraith> sudo isn't a user, it's a program
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:  i dont think an alias can have spaces like that.. You coule replace 'rm' with a script that does sanity checks however.
[01:58] <ctmjr> dahlia: you should have a hardware driver tap in your menu if it says your using the driver go to nvidia and download the current driver and follow the how to, it is simple
[01:58] <dahlia> ty
[01:58] <tsai1> Hi all, I'm having problems with  grub,  I have followed the instructions at http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/140845-error-2-a.html.    Any ideas?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> wWales:  that command is worse then format c:. :) format c - will erase one drive..  the rm command will erase every file on every mounted r/w filesystem.
[01:59] <ctmjr> dahlia: just to let you know they are up to driver version 185 so yours is a little outdated
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Nvidia drivers are alwyas  outdated in ubuntu :() thats just how it works.
[02:00] <dahlia> ya the new card isnt working as good as I thought it should :/
[02:00] <nathaniel_> @BitWraith ... I know it's a program ... ok say i type in sudo apt-get install packagexyz ... it's asks me for the root password. i type it in and then i gives me an authentication error
[02:01] <shino__> how do i change to another server?
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> shino__:  if you mean irc server... /server new.server.name
[02:01] <DarkMage26> I have a shut down issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m531b0a3
[02:01] <stennant101> Hello all
[02:01] <shino__> haha yea were can i find like a list of servers?
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> shino__:  deends on what irc network you want
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> !freenode
[02:02] <wWales> Dr_Willis: ok ok so its format c: with quad-damage... i find this a reoccuring theme with using linux after having been a long time windows user xD
[02:02] <shino__> like to for new tech dissconsions or sumthin random
[02:02] <guedesav> good morning/noon/night
[02:03] <guedesav> I have a strange problem with hald, it disconfigures my keyboard misteriously...
[02:03] <guedesav> anyone has a clue of why?
[02:04] <mrpockets> Dr_Willis, yeah, soemthing like that
[02:04] <mrpockets> idk, just wondering about the possibility of idiotproofing linux
[02:04] <Nubo_Haucente> guedesav: Same happened to me
[02:05] <guedesav> damn
[02:05] <Nubo_Haucente> I rebooted
[02:05] <Nubo_Haucente> And fine again
[02:05] <guedesav> yeah, me too
[02:05] <guedesav> the problem is that means I can't use any kind of GUI for wireless connection and such
[02:05] <guedesav> cause they need dbus and hald running
[02:05] <guedesav> and I can't rely only on iwconfig and iwlist, sometimes it just doesn't work, especially with WPA
[02:06] <guedesav> I need to know why HAL simply assumes my keyboard is "evdev" when it's explicitly stated in xorg.conf that it is "xorg"
[02:07] <wWales> mrpockets: theres no inbuilt prompt on such a rm command?
[02:07] <wWales> it all just goes *poof*? :(
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> wWales:  linux commands do what you tell them to..
[02:07] <mrpockets> IIRC it'll stop at /bin
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:   err.. no it wont. :)
[02:07] <mrpockets> on the count of it'll delete the rm command
[02:07] <mrpockets> but I've never tried it :-P
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:  'disk cache in ram'
[02:07] <uvstudios> hello everyone how are you guys doing?
[02:07] <guedesav> no, it'll keep goin
[02:08] <guedesav> rm will already be in the RAM, and will keep executing
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:  you can  use fdisk and delete a running systems / and other filesstems.. and it will run.. for a while.
[02:08] <mrpockets> until you reboot?
[02:08] <linuxguy2009> Is 9.10 gonna be the next LTS or guys?
[02:08] <DarkMage26> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m531b0a3. This is a shut down issue I'm have, can anyone help?
[02:09] <lstarnes> linuxguy2009: no, 10.04
[02:09] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, you just keep getting lines liek that one after the other?
[02:09] <linuxguy2009> ok thanks
[02:10] <linuxguy2009> thats right my bad
[02:10] <mdg> hello!
[02:10] <wWales> Dr_Willis: oh no, im generally in favor of that architecture, its just that in this case... ...its -everything- then again, i can imagine if all you wanna do is sweep filesystems (which i can imagine you could be in a position where that happens alot) then it makes a bit more sense, after all, there are ways to make your own prompts if that what you tell linux to do :)
[02:11] <kpas> so I type xrandr -s 1280x1024
[02:11] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: I keep getting it through most of the screen until the end. I get the *Stopping GNOME... [OK]. Then the cursor just sits there and blinks
[02:11] <kpas> and get Size 1280x1024 not found in available modes
[02:11] <derenrich_> so still no FF3.5 in the repos?
[02:11] <mrpockets> I cant say for sure, but i had a similar issue. Go to shut down and it'd do the [<PHONE_NUMBER>]  CONNET DEBOUNCE FAILED!
[02:12] <mrpockets> ended up being faulty hardware (USB Port to be specific)
[02:12] <kpas> how can I add 1280x1024 as a selection so I can set it from 800xXXX to 1280x1024
[02:12] <uvstudios> hey guys i have a question about formating a disk, i know you are busy but do you have time to answer?
[02:12] <ctmjr> kpas: what does xrandr output by itself?
[02:13] <lstarnes> uvstudios: we can't answer a question that hasn't been asked
[02:13] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: how can I check for that?
[02:13] <kpas> 4 opitions
[02:13] <kpas> max 800x600
[02:13] <DarkMage26> uvstudios: what are you wanting to do?
[02:13] <uvstudios> hahaha well thank you guys
[02:13] <ctmjr> kpas: did you install any graphic card drivers?
[02:13] <platyhelminth> Hi, how to make a script that simulate the use of a keyboard key every second ?
[02:13] <kpas> yes
[02:13] <uvstudios> here i typed it out in another place but no one was able to help let me just grab what i typed
[02:14] <uvstudios> i have a 7.5 TB disk array and i am trying to format it, i tried fdisk but i was stupid and didnt know that it could only do 2TBs. So now i'm sitting here thinking if i should use parted, but i want to create a parition that windows users can use and also mac users too. I'm trying to set up a file server and will eventually cluster the data together with another server. I was thinking of
[02:14] <kpas> I moved it ti a beklin share device
[02:14] <uvstudios> setting up a logical volume with the disk, but i'm not so sure that i will need to do this, i guess i'm trying to ask what would be the best way to format my 7.5 TB drive and what format?
[02:14] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, run memtest, pull your unnecessary hardware out and see if it goes away, run fsck on the Hard Drive
[02:14] <kpas> Belkin KVM
[02:14] <kpas> I moved it ti a beklin KVM
[02:15] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: How do I do memtesting?
[02:15] <kpas> I had it directly connected to the monitor and was able to get the higher resolutions
[02:16] <uvstudios> my question is in regards of formating a disk that is 7.5 TB's and how i should format it for users that will be using a mac and a pc.
[02:16] <voss> I would love to go back in time to 1999 and tell people, hey Im gonna format my 1.5 terrabyte external hard drive with my $200 linux netbook and just watch their mouths hang open, and then tell them "everybody uses linux in the future, microsoft went out of business 2 years ago"  ;-)
[02:16] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, you have that Ubuntu CD you installed from?
[02:17] <WHARRGARBL> is ubuntu server supported here?
[02:17] <ctmjr> kpas: i do not know how to help you i do not know a thing about the kvm switch and how to configure it
[02:17] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: Just use the cd tool on reboot?
[02:17] <mrpockets> yar
[02:17] <WHARRGARBL> Is Ubuntu server supported gere?
[02:17] <mrpockets> chances are, if its your ram, you'll  have other problems too
[02:17] <WHARRGARBL> here*
[02:17] <mrpockets> WHARRGARBL,  #ubuntu-server
[02:17] <kpas> is there a file I can edit to add more resolution opition
[02:18] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: No other problems that I can see. Will run mem test now.
[02:18] <mercutio22> in firefox when middle click a link a new tab opens in the end as opposed to by the side of the parent tab, is there an extension to make the daughter tab be opened by the side of the parent tab?
[02:18] <mrroboto_> Can anyone give me a hand getting the ATI proprietary driver installed correctly?  I tried using the included application for it, but when I rebooted,  just got neon static...
[02:18] <lethu> kpas, might be xorg.conf under X11 folder if I recall well
[02:19] <kpas> k
[02:19] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, and i might be sending you barking up the wrong tree
[02:19] <mattyb> Anyone know when PHP 5.3 will be in the repos, or do we have to build from source?
[02:19] <Godel-Paradox> how can i create
[02:19] <Godel-Paradox> an iso from cd?
[02:20] <altf2o> last I saw on the php mailing list was debian had deb files for testing, but were experimental.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> Godel-Paradox:  you can 'image' a cd to a .iso file with the proper dd command
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> !dd
[02:20] <cellofellow> Godel-Paradox: use dd. `dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/image.iso` should get you started
[02:20] <wabob> man dd
[02:20] <cellofellow> Godel-Paradox: man dd
[02:20] <altf2o> so anything 5.3 at this point is likely to be custom built or installed from an experimental tree/source
[02:20] <mrpockets> dd if=/dev/cdrom
[02:20] <mrpockets> he beat me to it
[02:21] <mattyb> altf2o: thanks.
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> can i use a program for this
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> better?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> you will wan tto use the 'bs=1024' option also - for speed.
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> k3b or something?
[02:21] <cellofellow> Actually, you can just right-click a CD-ROM icon on the desktop in Nautilus and I think it has a Copy Disk item.
[02:21] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: boot into a terminal and type sudo  aticonfig --initial then try to reboot agian and see if it worked
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> Godel-Paradox:  theres other tools that can do it.. but dd will be just as easy/fast
[02:21] <altf2o> n/p
[02:21] <provvlMBP> hi guys
[02:21] <provvlMBP> if you could label "groups" (or "piles" i guess) of icons on your desktop, what would those labels be?
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> cellofellow: this didnt work
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> the iso when i mount it wasnt ok
[02:21] <mrpockets> provvlMBP, come again?
[02:22] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: I already removed the driver so I could boot up again.  It's no longer in the hardware driver app to reinstall, either.
[02:22] <cellofellow> Godel-Paradox: so use dd.
[02:22] <sam555> hello all!
[02:23] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: how did you remove it?
[02:23] <sam555> how would I know which version of ubuntu server I should dl?
[02:23] <Devilsprey99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/207858/ can anyone help me with this
[02:23] <sam555> 64 or 32?
[02:23] <patdk-lap> any idea how to stop ubuntu from beeping when I plug/unplug a/c power?
[02:23] <patdk-lap> can't seem to find any results on google
[02:23] <sam555> It's going on a dell optiplex 330 (a typical desktop computer)
[02:23] <provvlMBP> like,
[02:24] <provvlMBP> lets say,
[02:24] <patdk-lap> sam555, depends on if it supports 64bit, and if you have >4gigs of ram
[02:24] <provvlMBP> if you have a lot of icons in your desktop,
[02:24] <provvlMBP> and they kind of all fit into groups,
[02:24] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: Id have to look back to find the exact command, but it was a terminal command, which essentially comes down to purge=fglrx
[02:24] <benje> hello i use firefox 3.0.11 under ubuntu ibex kernel 2.6.27-14 and when i try to read html page which in css there a 120em for <a> it freeze the entire system
[02:24] <altf2o> sam555 - any should suffice, I run 8.10 on an 500mhz athlon, 256mb ram. going to upgrade to 9.04 tomorrow
[02:24] <provvlMBP> instead of making folders to put them in, if you were to push them into a group that could have a label, what would your labels say?
[02:24] <provvlMBP> for example i have "open source code" and "pics" and stuff
[02:26] <sam555> patdk-lap: altf2o: I don't have 4gb, just 2gb of ram.  Should I just go for ubuntu server 32 then?
[02:26] <patdk-lap> yep
[02:26] <sam555> kk. thanks!
[02:26] <patdk-lap> 64bit uses almost twice as much ram as 32bit
[02:26] <sam555> aww
[02:26] <patdk-lap> so unless you need it, don't waste it
[02:26] <mrpockets> indeed.
[02:26] <sam555> gotcha
[02:27] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: found it, it was apt-get remove --purge=fglrx*
[02:27] <Chaorain> I need help compiling blender on 9.04 I'm using Cmake. Help? http://www.pasteall.org/6408
[02:27] <altf2o> f you're CPU supports 64bit feel free to use it. I don't recall if the 330s do
[02:28] <boss_mc> patdk-lap: can you source that claim? (the one about double memory consumption)
[02:28] <boss_mc> Chaorain: blender is in the repos, why are you compiling it?
[02:29] <altf2o> <--- prefers scons when compiling blender. #blender-dev can likely help
[02:29] <Chaorain> boss_mc, for optimization and verse.
[02:29] <boss_mc> Chaorain: ok, just checking :)
[02:29] <benje> altf2o: optiplex 330 support core 2 duo
[02:30] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: ok go here and follow this guide to get it back but after you are doen installing it make sure to run aticonfig --initial so the driver will get loaded for you, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:30] <dahlia> how can I start my 8.04 desktop without starting X? I need to run the nvidia installer and it wants the X server shut down but I dont see an option to do that
[02:30] <benje> if it's celeron support emt64 so yes he can use 64bit os
[02:30] <altf2o> good deal.
[02:31] <Jonathancw_> Hi , i installed Ubuntu...but when it restarts the system, it goes to windows repair mode..  Its not even showing the ubuntu load screen or anything..
[02:31] <Chaorain> dahlia, System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[02:31] <jules__> hi, i'm having a problem with xubuntu but nobody answears in the xubuntu channel, can someone help me?
[02:31] <boss_mc> dahlia: I somewhat doubt you have to install nvidia without X (have you seen !binary) but if you do, ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1 and then sudo service gdm stop will stop X
[02:31] <Godel-Paradox> i used dd
[02:31] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:31] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: gotcha, ill report back in a bit with success, or on my laptop.  Am I safe to assume that the module version requirements are met by the default install of 9.04?
[02:32] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, one Hard Drive or two?
[02:32] <Jonathancw_> Two hard drives, Raid config, mirroring
[02:32] <susbwoy> Hi, where can I find out what is new with the ubuntu kernel update 2.6.28-13.45?
[02:32] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: the first guide is for jaunty so i hope so
[02:33] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, Hardware raid or fake raid(shows up as two disks in ubuntu)?
[02:33] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: roger, I'm off to give it a shot
[02:33] <Jonathancw_> Hardware raid.  Ubuntu showed one hard drive - but theres two each 500 gb
[02:33] <sage_> hey what channel is for wine help???
[02:33] <Mike_lifeguard> sage_: #winehq
[02:33] <susbwoy> sage_: #winehq
[02:33] <sage_> thANKS  Mike_lifeguard
[02:34] <Mike_lifeguard> mwahaha, beat you to it, susbwoy :P
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> if i change the name of an iso
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> will this
[02:34] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, ok do you see grub on boot?
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> destroy the iso?
[02:34] <boss_mc> Godel-Paradox: nope
[02:34] <Mozillero> holas
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> i made the iso with dd
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:34] <Jonathancw_> No I do not
[02:34] <FloodBot3> Godel-Paradox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <susbwoy> Mike_lifeguard: my new kernel image was installing :( and my screen jumped
[02:34] <Jonathancw_> IT trys to go to Start Windows Normally or Windows Rescue
[02:35] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, best bet is to reinstall grub
[02:35] <jules__> anybody?
[02:35] <Jonathancw_> How would I do that?  I reinstalled Ubuntu twice
[02:35] <boss_mc> !grub | Jonathancw_
[02:35] <Godel-Paradox> i created an image of the cd with dd. Now how can i mount it?
[02:35] <Godel-Paradox> as a cd
[02:35] <JDShewey> Hey, having trouble rebuilding a RAID0 array.
[02:35] <geirha> !iso | Godel-Paradox
[02:35] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, one sec
[02:36] <JDShewey> Whey I run mdadm --create I get /dev/sda1: device or resource busy and for /dev/sdb2 (and two other partitions) I get "this device appears to be part of an array". Any suggestions?
[02:36] <Jonathancw_> Thanks for your help btw
[02:36] <JDShewey> /dev/sda1 is unmounted and is part type linux raid autodetect
[02:36] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:36] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: an example?
[02:36] <Chaorain> but did you install windows after ubuntu?
[02:36] <jules__> i'm having a problem with an audio card on xubuntu, can anybody help me?
[02:37] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, But did you install windows after ubuntu?
[02:37] <JDShewey> jules__: depends on your problem. What is it?
[02:37] <jules__> yey
[02:37] <jules__> hi!
[02:37] <scunizi> How do I sort the items listed in the menus?
[02:37] <Jonathancw_> no it was installed before ubuntu
[02:37] <geirha> Godel-Paradox: replace <ISO-filename> with the path to the iso, and <mountpoint> to the dir you want to mount it to; for instance /media/cdrom
[02:37] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: sudo mount -o loop /alpha/file.iso dev/cd
[02:37] <jules__> i've been two days trying to install an audio card
[02:37] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:37] <jules__> it's a creative awe
[02:37] <jules__> sorry
[02:37] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: i want it to look like i have 2 cdroms
[02:37] <jules__> creative awe32
[02:38] <Devilsprey99> hi plz can anyone help me
[02:38] <jules__> model CT3670
[02:38] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, weird. Grub should be installed.
[02:38] <jules__> i found out that i have to use the module snd-sbawe
[02:38] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: so /media/cdrom1 and /media/cdrom2?
[02:38] <jules__> it works
[02:38] <jules__> BUT
[02:38] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, is ubuntu on a primary partition or extended?
[02:38] <JDShewey> Devilsprey99: depends on your problem. What is it?
[02:38] <jules__> audio now only works if i run applications with administrator rights
[02:38] <jules__> (using sudo)
[02:38] <scunizi> Godel-Paradox: geirha ususally it's /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1
[02:38] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: Got no errors from mem test. Still can't get system to turn off.  :(
[02:38] <kaj> Ffs.
[02:39] <Devilsprey99> JDShewey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/207858/
[02:39] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:39] <jules__> i'de like not to have to run all the audio associated programs from console and using sudo
[02:39] <geirha> Godel-Paradox: the mountpoints must exist and be directories, so create them if they don't already exist
[02:40] <jules__> any idea?
[02:40] <jules__> i modified the module file
[02:40] <jules__> i added snd-sbawe at the end
[02:40] <jules__> it loads the module
[02:40] <JDShewey> Devilsprey99: Try setting the resolution manually using the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file > http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=xorg.conf+example&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&fp=kE0CVI1PqvM
[02:41] <jules__> i mean... automaticly
[02:41] <jules__> at startup
[02:41] <jules__> but it's only usable under administrator rights, as i said
[02:41] <JDShewey> jules__: I assume since you are using sudo, you are not working graphically. Can you get sound from within X?
[02:42] <neothecat> howdy.  i am running 64 bit 9.04.  has anyone had any problems with flash 10 sometimes working, sometime not in firefox 3.0.11
[02:42] <jules__> if i run programs from X (x server, right?) then i have no sound
[02:42] <jules__> i'm using fluxbox, don't know if that matters
[02:42] <odinsban1> I've got troubles with Network Manager, I want nm to start when my computer does, and I need to run a script to turn on the wireless card.
[02:42] <odinsban1> er nm-applet.
[02:43] <jules__> for example... if i run in the terminal "gnome-alsamixer" it has no sound controls
[02:43] <jules__> as if the card doesn't exist
[02:43] <odinsban1> jules__: are you using pulse audio or alsa?
[02:43] <jules__> but if i run "sudo gnome-alsamixer" then i do have the audi controls
[02:44] <jules__> i'm using alsa
[02:44] <jules__> pulse isn't even installed
[02:44] <jules__> like i was saying
[02:44] <odinsban1> jules__: I think you have to add your user to the alsa group or something along those lines.
[02:44] <jules__> "exaile" doesn't hve audio unless i use sudo
[02:44] <jules__> mmm
[02:45] <boss_mc> jules__: the sound group (?)
[02:45] <jules__> can you tell me how to do it?
[02:45] <jules__> i'm a newbie :)
[02:45] <adante> hi, when i boot up /bin/nash uses 100% cpu, what is this?
[02:45] <DarkMage26> I have a shut down problem. here is info: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[02:45] <boss_mc> odinsban1: can't you create an rc script which turns on the card and give it a lower start vaule that networkmanager?
[02:45] <manguy> I'm tracking to debug a problem I'm having in apache, and one of the solutions I read said to make sure that the apache user has the correct permissions.  How can I check to see if a certain user (apache in this case) has the permissions needed to access the files?
[02:45] <jules__> i haven't read/heard about sound or alsa groups
[02:46] <odinsban1> boss_mc: possibly, which rc script should I include that in?
[02:46] <JDShewey> jules__: I am not sure why you can't use your soundcard as a standard user, however you can use the sudoers file to allow your standard user to automatically run certian programs with full permissions without having to enter a password. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[02:46] <boss_mc> odinsban1: make a new one
[02:46] <jules__> mm
[02:46] <JDShewey> If adding to the sound group does not work.
[02:46] <mitchellvc> please, some time ago i was able to open a png or jpeg file from openoffice impress in presentation mode (through a link) with eye of gnome, now i cant do it since i reinstalled Ubuntu 8.10 and i dont know how to do ti
[02:46] <dsdeiz> how do fix a broken install again?
[02:47] <Chaorain> Can Iget help with this? http://www.pasteall.org/6408
[02:47] <Devilsprey99> anyone here plays freetennis
[02:47] <jules__> i guess that would work but it's a little... untidy? i don't know how it's said in english
[02:47] <ctmjr> jules__: try sudo adduser  "user name" audio
[02:47] <mitchellvc> please, some time ago i was able to open a png or jpeg file from openoffice impress in presentation mode (through a link) with eye of gnome, now i cant do it since i reinstalled Ubuntu 8.10 and i dont know how to fix it
[02:48] <boss_mc> !repeat | mitchellvc
[02:48] <JDShewey> jules__: I would call that a "kludge"
[02:49] <boss_mc> jules__: although untidy is fine... ;-)
[02:49] <jules__> kludge?
[02:49] <jules__> i'll google it
[02:49] <jules__> hahaha
[02:50] <boss_mc> jules__: a kludge is an untidy solution to a problem which works but there should be a better solution
[02:50] <jules__> ctmjr should i reboot now?
[02:50] <chalcedony> are there any tricks to get a computer to enter the bios?
[02:50] <boss_mc> jules__: restart X or reboot
[02:50] <boss_mc> chalcedony: the very first screen after you turn it on should say press <blah> to enter bios/setup
[02:51] <ctmjr> jules__: yes
[02:51] <boss_mc> chalcedony: press <blah>! (it's often esc, f2, f10, tab or f8)
[02:51] <DarkMage26> chalcedony: usually esc or f11 or f12
[02:51] <boss_mc> chalcedony: basically anything.... :(
[02:51] <din7> press the any key
[02:51] <JDShewey> chalcedony: It is also often the delete key
[02:51] <DarkMage26> lol
[02:52] <jules__> boss_mc i thought it had to be something like that... thanks!
[02:52] <jules__> "restart X" means to log out and in, am i right?
[02:52] <boss_mc> jules__: that will be enough in this case
[02:52] <jules__> or restarting fluxbox is enough?
[02:53] <boss_mc> jules__: or thtt
[02:53] <boss_mc> *that
[02:53] <JDShewey> jules__: yes. CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will do this very abruptly also
[02:53] <jules__> great
[02:53] <boss_mc> !dontzap | JDShewey
[02:53] <boss_mc> bah
[02:53] <jules__> i'll try and then i'll report back
[02:53] <jules__> thanks!
[02:53] <boss_mc> JDShewey: ctrl+alt+backspace was dropped in Jaunty
[02:54] <JDShewey> right you are. Forgot about that.
[02:54] <Belboz99> Hey all, for years I have used the cp command to copy a device (usually a CD or DVD) to an ISO file, this has worked flawlessly, until now, what has changed?
[02:54] <Jimmio> JDShewey: sudo apt-get install dontzap and then run dontzap --disable.
[02:54] <din7> how about sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:55] <boss_mc> Belboz99: the standard tool to do that is dd (I don't know why cp has stopped working, or why it ever did...)
[02:55] <Jimmio> Could Compiz be screwing up Gnome Remote Desktop? The Windows user sees a screenshot, not a moving video D:
[02:55] <Belboz99> boss_mc: thanks, I just tried dd, and I got the exact same results, it copied 1.7MB and failed
[02:55] <boss_mc> din7: involves switching tty and is as abrupt as ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:55] <boss_mc> Belboz99: corrupt CD/damaged drive?
[02:56] <Belboz99> boss_mc: this has occurred identically on two seperate PC's with 2 separate discs
[02:56] <chalcedony> DarkMage26 boss_mc it *says* to hit tab to enter bios ..NOTHING happens differntly .. whether i press it and hold it, tap it once or tap it fast or slow
[02:56] <geirha> Jimmio: Likely, yes.
[02:56] <DarkMage26> chalcedony: did you try the other keys said?
[02:56] <Belboz99> boss_mc: I can also browse the disk just fine, both through the CLI and  through Nautilus
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> hi all i am new to this chanel
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> :)
[02:57] <dsdeiz> is there like a password manager package?
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> i would like to ask a Q re Wireless connectivity
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> WiFI
[02:57] <boss_mc> chalcedony: normally pressing esc shows you the boot messages, try that while pressing tab, see if anything changes
[02:57] <chalcedony> boss_mc what other keys .. i did tab and delete
[02:57] <odinsban1> Something that is strange, the nm-applet and this wireless card and nm-applet work great from live cd, but from the actual install I can't turn on the card, I have to use a script.
[02:57] <Belboz99> boss_mc: only things that have changed that I am aware of is a recent kernel update, should I go ahead and revert back to an older kernel temporarily?
[02:58] <xangua> ju,..............
[02:58] <boss_mc> Belboz99: no idea, you could try it, report a bug if that fixes the problem...
[02:58] <DarkMage26> boss_mc: chalcedony: esc, f1, f2, f5, f8, f11, f12
[02:58] <chalcedony> ok i'm trying to use the ubuntu live cd.. when it trips out on my monitors then ill try escape with it, thank you :)
[02:58] <Jimmio> Is there a way to turn off compiz temporarily and restart it the exact way it was including the emerald decoration manager?
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: sudo metacity --replace
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: then sudo compiz --replace
[02:59] <Belboz99> okay, thanks boss_mc, I'm going to be rebooting the server, so all my internet connectivity will be down for about 3 min
[02:59] <boss_mc> run these from alt+f2 launcher
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: not from command line (or if you do, run them with & after them)
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: i.e. sudo metacity --replace &
[03:00] <boss_mc> Belboz99: kl, gl
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> the 2 green balls show on upper panel and the spining blue circle
[03:00] <ctmjr> Jimmio: or install the fuzion icon
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> both green balls are lit
[03:00] <Jimmio> Doesn't do anything, Fuzion icon?
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> but ehtn after 30 secs goes back to tiny computer screen s w/red x
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> menainsg it wasnt able to connect
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> i have confirmed that my u/p is correct
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> any clue?
[03:01] <goanUbuntu> is there a wirelss/WiFi connection log i can review to see if there is an error?
[03:01] <boss_mc> Jimmio: or install simple-ccsm and use custom desktop effects, rather than the two defaults
[03:01] <usr13> goanUbuntu: iwconfig
[03:01] <geirha> Jimmio, boss_mc: metacity --replace &   # WITHOUT sudo
[03:01] <linux101> hey can someone help me out?
[03:01] <boss_mc> geirha: ah yes... it's been a while since I toyed with compiz....
[03:02] <usr13> linux101: Only if you ask a question.
[03:02] <boss_mc> geirha: thanks
[03:02] <goanUbuntu> got it usr13
[03:02] <goanUbuntu> next?
[03:02] <usr13> goanUbuntu: No log, just to see what is configured now.
[03:02] <linux101> i installed ubuntu 5.1, its the only install cd i have, im trying to install adobe flashplayer
[03:02] <goanUbuntu> i see
[03:03] <usr13> goanUbuntu: or not configured. as the case may be.
[03:03] <linux101> i have read the forums and documentation but i keep getting an error
[03:03] <Godel-Paradox> how can i make the dd command to work?
[03:03] <Godel-Paradox> to make an iso from cd
[03:03] <goanUbuntu> k
[03:03] <goanUbuntu> 1 sec plz
[03:03] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: isofs
[03:03] <Godel-Paradox> dd i mean
[03:03] <linux101> any1 wanna help me :P
[03:03] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: mkisofs sorry...
[03:03] <scunizi> linux101: 5.1?  don't think so .. even if it was numbered that it's so old as to be unusable.
[03:04] <mrroboto> ctmjr: It worked!  *Thrusts the pelvic thrust of the gods*  Thanks for the direction =)
[03:04] <boss_mc> usr13: 5.1 reached it's EOL, you should try to find a supported version (8.04+)
[03:04] <Godel-Paradox> not mkisofs is
[03:04] <Godel-Paradox> for hdd files
[03:04] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: your welcome
[03:04] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/username/cd.iso
[03:04] <geirha> Godel-Paradox: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/image.iso
[03:04] <scunizi> linux101: can you download the latest or the LTS version and burn it?
[03:04] <mobi-sheep> Oh my!  I just ran XChat with a clean directory.  The default theme is really ugly. ;<
[03:05] <goanUbuntu> here is what i see:
[03:05] <goanUbuntu> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:""             Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.467 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated              Tx-Power=20 dBm              Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2352 B              Power Management:off           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[03:05] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: where /dev/hdc is your cdrom and /home/username is your home dir and cd.iso is the desired name you wanna use.
[03:05] <linux101> i cant burn anything because i cant install any burning software for my dvd drive
[03:05] <boss_mc> linux101: can you boot off usb (and have a 1Gb+ USB pen)?
[03:05] <linux101> can i mount the isos and install from a partition on my harddrive?
[03:05] <linux101> i have a 512mb usb
[03:05] <linux101> :(
[03:05] <scunizi> linux101: why can't you install any burning software?
[03:06] <jorgerosa> linux101:  maybe here: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html#flash-install-macromedia
[03:06] <linux101> because if i try to install anything it just gives me package does not exist
[03:06] <coleys> linux101: sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <linux101> i did that coley
[03:06] <scunizi> linux101: AH.. because you installed the older version of ubuntu?
[03:06] <linux101> i update repositories
[03:06] <linux101> yes
[03:06] <coleys> linux101: What version?
[03:06] <boss_mc> linux101: you can play games with unetbootin to turn a partition into an installer, boot into that, install into a seperate partition then delete the installer partition
[03:06] <linux101> 5.1 really old its the only cd i had
[03:07] <linux101> boss that sounds really difficult :( im a newb
[03:07] <boss_mc> linux101: or use debootstrap (but that might well not work from your early version of ubuntu_
[03:07] <boss_mc> linux101: fair
[03:07] <coleys> boss_mc:Is the unetbootin for ubuntu any good?
[03:07] <boss_mc> coleys: fine, no problems with it
[03:07] <jorgerosa> linux101:  checked that link?
[03:07] <earthmeLon> I want to add an entry to grub that will allow me to boot Ubuntu Desktop without gui (pretty much make it run like the server version would).  Any suggestions on where to start?
[03:07] <boss_mc> coleys: what's it like for windows nowadays?
[03:07] <abdiz> what
[03:07] <usr13> boss_mc: What?  (was that for me?
[03:08] <scunizi> linux101: you can always order a free cd or visit a friend that has a burner and capacity to download the iso
[03:08] <linux101> no jorge, im trying to install a new copy of ubuntu
[03:08] <jorgerosa> ok
[03:08] <whois> Hi guys
[03:08] <coleys> boss_mc: I havn't actually ever used it, was hoping it was a good version for ubuntu =P Cause thats the only way ill try it.
[03:08] <whois> I ahve a linksys wireless-b usb network adapter
[03:08] <boss_mc> usr13: no...
[03:08] <scunizi> linux101: you may also find a magazine with an ubuntu cd in it
[03:08] <boss_mc> coleys: yeah, it's very useful!
[03:08] <scunizi> linux101: where are you at in the world?
[03:08] <coleys> boss_mc: Yeah and i've heard very fast aswell... =D
[03:08] <whois> Its the gui is not showing up so that I can connect to wireless
[03:08] <linux101> Toronto
[03:09] <BornRebel> Is there a shockwave player for ubuntu?
[03:09] <scunizi> linux101: you should have a user's group up there you could get a copy from.. hang on I'll check
[03:09] <usr13> whois: iwconfig
[03:09] <whois> does any know the softaware I need to enable and run my V
[03:09] <boss_mc> BornRebel: nope, nor will there probably ever be...
[03:09] <usr13> whois: run your "V"?
[03:09] <vid_> I just upgraded to the newest mythbuntu and lost audio support systemwide.  What should I look for?
[03:09] <BornRebel> boss_mc: why will there never be?
[03:10] <whois> I was trying to paste
[03:10] <linux101> jorge
[03:10] <linux101> sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[03:10] <coleys> vid_: Search your audio card in google + ubuntu =)
[03:10] <odinsban2> If I press my wireless button it doesn't turn the wireless on and off, so I need to use a script and sudo.  Is there a way to change the permissions for that?
[03:10] <coleys> vid_: lspci | grep -i audio
[03:10] <linux101> E: Couldn't find package libflash-mozplugin
[03:10] <linux101> jorge
[03:10] <DarkMage26> whois: you don't have the wireless icon on the bar?
[03:10] <boss_mc> BornRebel: they've been 'working on it' for 8 years with no output, and they're trying to phase it out in favour of flash
[03:10] <odinsban2> I mean, maybe the button doesn't work because of permissions
[03:10] <whois> iwlinksys wireless-b usb network adapter
[03:10] <vid_> ack, some kind of onboard soundcard.  I'll take a look, thanks
[03:10] <jerknextdoor> any help with getting 8.10 to recognize a pcmcia card?
[03:10] <whois> I have a desktop
[03:10] <Godel-Paradox> how can i use the dd command?
[03:10] <Godel-Paradox> i have error
[03:10] <boss_mc> BornRebel: so they have very little incentive to work on it, only very few sites still use it
[03:10] <whois> I want to swith from thernet to wireless
[03:11] <usr13> odinsban2: You can just do ifdown
[03:11] <coleys> vid_: Yeah, just run that command it will tell you which card you have.
[03:11] <whois> ethernet*
[03:11] <danbhfive> whois: did you use ndiswrapper, or is it supported natively?
[03:11] <ctmjr> whois: there is no support for linksys usb wireless cards in linux you need to use ndiswrapper
[03:11] <whois> I just plugged the linksys wireless-b usb network adapter
[03:11] <whois> but its not whowing up
[03:11] <BornRebel> boss_mc: so what r my options for viewing shockwave stuff? wine + firefox?
[03:11] <cyberworm20> hello everyone
[03:11] <whois> showing*
[03:11] <boss_mc> BornRebel: unfortunately that seems to be the case
[03:11] <mibbit> hi
[03:11] <scunizi> linux101: check this link out and make contact http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333459
[03:12] <mibbit> can someone help me connect a pptp vpn?
[03:12] <mibbit> can someone help me connect a pptp vpn?
[03:12] <boss_mc> BornRebel: I havn't even seen a decent attempt at an open source replacement
[03:12] <mibbit> using 9.10
[03:12] <lomez> hey jambarama could you be a little more specific?
[03:12] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:12] <usr13> !pptp | mibbit
[03:12] <lomez> vid_, could you be a little more specific?
[03:12] <cyberworm20> anyone using bactrack 4 here?
 !pptp | mibbit
[03:13] <mibbit> what's that
[03:13] <linux101> is there any other options? can i mount ubuntu isos and installed them from my harddrive from a virtual drive?
[03:13] <usr13> mibbit: Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp
[03:13] <coleys> linux101: Whats your issue, why can't you boot from disc?
[03:14]  * zerozerozero hello i want to install and configure alsa on ubuntu server so far i have done the following sudo apt-get install alsa
[03:14] <boss_mc> linux101: you got 2 HDs?
[03:14] <PATPAT> Hey why can't i creat a new account ?
[03:14] <coleys> alsa on ubuntu server ? =p
[03:14] <boss_mc> !alsa | zerozerozero
[03:14] <usr13> zerozerozero: alsaconf
[03:14] <linux101> no just 1, im sure i can mount iso and install from my harddrive i used to do that for windows
[03:14] <coleys> PATPAT: sudo useradd username ... then to change its password... username passwd
[03:14] <scunizi> linux101: someone mentioned that "unetbootin" can be used from a partition like you just mentioned.. however you may have to read a lot to figure out how that works
[03:15] <PATPAT> oh ok
[03:15] <boss_mc> linux101: unfortunately not because you'll have to repartition the drive your on which can't be done while it's active
[03:15] <coleys> linux101: You can also load a flash drive with unetbootin aswell.
[03:15] <jim____> coleys: wtf?  PATPAT sudo adduser username; passwd username
[03:15] <boss_mc> coleys: he's only got a 512Mb on...
[03:15] <scunizi> coleys: he's installed the only copy of ubuntu he has ... 5.1 and can't get to repos to download a burner for a more recent version.  also doesn't have a largge enough usb stick
[03:15] <tensai_> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.04 install the update manager was running and computer froze. Restarted, now on boot it says it gave up waiting for the root device and drops to a shell.
[03:15] <koshari> linux101 you can in a virtual machine,
[03:16] <tensai_> I broke it so reinstall?
[03:16] <jim____> tensai_: mdadm raid by chance?
[03:16] <danbhfive> linux101: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html    you can sorta follow that.  But, instead of using grub for dos, I think you can enter the commands directly from grub since you already have grub installed
[03:16] <linux101> im confused
[03:16] <coleys> jim____: Lawl, my bad= )
[03:16] <tensai_> nope nothing fancy - putting ubuntu on my 2yo's new comp (ancient box from the garage) so she can play fisher price games online
[03:16] <tensai_> only thing I installed was flash
[03:17] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:17] <jim____> coleys: useradd's valid too, but not as friendly as adduser IMO.
[03:17] <lbs> who installed HP 1020 Printer under Ubuntu?
[03:17] <Travis-42> Is there an alternative program similar to soundconverter?  It locks up on me
[03:17] <coleys> jim____: Yeah, i completely agree =o... getting late =P
[03:17] <PATPAT> I mean why can't I add user from administrative menu
[03:17] <boss_mc> linux101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux look at method 1
[03:17] <coleys> PATPAT: You should be able too..
[03:18] <PATPAT> its grayed out
[03:18] <scunizi> PATPAT: hit the "unlock" button
[03:18] <PATPAT> its so weird
[03:18] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:18] <coleys> PATPAT: Is there unlock?
[03:18] <PATPAT> what unlock button
[03:18] <tensai_> there were several 'usplash: setting mode [random resolution] failed' messages as well
[03:18] <doink12123> i am using pcsx for the first time, and i dont understand what the control configurations are for the keyboard, the menu isnt clear at all
[03:18] <chaorain_> help? http://www.pasteall.org/6411
[03:18] <PATPAT> No there isnt
[03:18] <scunizi> linux101: do you have a windows machine?
[03:18] <JDShewey> DarkMage26: you need to give some hardware details: what type of PC, mobo, etc
[03:18] <coleys> PATPAT: Any non greyed out buttons?
[03:18] <PATPAT> Theres user and groups
[03:19] <danbhfive> linux101: here are the actual instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[03:19] <DarkMage26> JDShewey: I don't know the details of the machine cuz I don't know where to look for it.
[03:19] <boss_mc> linux101: the debootstrap way is nice, but probably wont work with your version unfortunately
[03:19] <PATPAT> it say click Administrator mode button to allow modification but theres none
[03:19] <coleys> PATPAT: Reopen the window?
[03:19] <majnoon> !ot |majnoon
[03:19] <linux101> nah i changed my only windows machine to linux i have a laptop with vista but the screen is broken
[03:19] <koshari> linux101 seriousely though with how easy unetbootin is you would be silly to use any other methood
[03:19] <PATPAT> let me try
[03:19] <gggg> hello,is it possible to login with the same yahoo account in pidgin of different machine?
[03:20] <doink12123> What are the default keyboard controls for PCSX?
[03:20] <linux101> but boss said it wont work
[03:20] <JDShewey> DarkMage: is this a laptop, desktop? HP? Dell? Whitebox?
[03:20] <boss_mc> koshari: he's not got a big enough USB
[03:20] <koshari> linux101 it will work but its a long winded way
[03:20] <boss_mc> linux101: did you get my link?
[03:20] <linux101> yea i got everyones link :P
[03:20] <DarkMage26> JDShewey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:21] <linux101> any1 want to vnc into my linux and fix it :P
[03:21] <koshari> boss_mc well looks like he may need to shell out ten bucks then
[03:21] <boss_mc> koshari: or beg a copy off someone
[03:21] <kain> hi all, i was wondering if anyone knows how to upgrade firefox 3.0.11 to firefox 3.5?
[03:21] <boss_mc> night all!
[03:21] <gggg> hello,is it possible to login with the same yahoo account in pidgin of different machine?
[03:21] <linux101> night
[03:21] <boss_mc> kain: sudo aptitude install firefox-3.5
[03:22] <linux101> no1 wants to vnc and fix it for me :(
[03:22] <kain> boss_mc: will it uninstall my old version?
[03:22] <koshari> linux101 you could even use a removable usb hdd
[03:22] <doink12123> gggg: i dont know why not
[03:22] <boss_mc> kain: not that I'm aware of, i think it does a update-alternatives thing
[03:22] <linux101> i dont have 1 would 512mb usb stick be enough?
[03:22] <gggg> doink12123, so it's possible to login with the same account in different pc?
[03:23] <kain> boss_mc: ok, cause i went into synaptics manager and installed firefox-3.5 but it was a beta, not the official version that just came out
[03:23] <doink12123> gggg: it should be possible. Ive always used pidgin on multiple computers at once
[03:23] <gggg> doink12123, ok, is it possible for aMSN and emense, too?
[03:23] <linux_trojan> I have been trying to view TV on Ubuntu using Mythbuntu, Freevo, and other stuff, there has to be an easier way, something without all the configuration, something just plug and play?
[03:24] <danbhfive> linux_trojan: hulu.com?
[03:24] <doink12123> gggg: i dont see emense as a login option, but MSN is there
[03:24] <scunizi> linux_trojan: using a tuner card?
[03:24] <linux101> koshari in the meantime is there any video players i can install to watch videos?
[03:24] <linux101> i cant watch anything
[03:24] <linux_trojan> yea happauge
[03:25] <gggg> doink12123, ok thanks
[03:25] <koshari> linux101 vlc, mplayer, totem,
[03:25] <linux_trojan> I will try Hulu.com see what they got
[03:25] <linux101> i tried totem but it just gives me errors
[03:25] <linux101> and i dont really know how to install mplayer
[03:25] <koshari> linux101 you more likely will want the codecs
[03:25] <coleys> linux101, Try smplayer =)
[03:25] <scunizi> linux_trojan: #mythbuntu for configuation support.. there's also xbmc as an alternative from mythbuntu
[03:25] <cyberworm20> r root?
[03:25] <linux101> how do i install the codecs?
[03:26] <linux101> because on totem it gives me codecs error
[03:26] <cyberworm20> how do i change the password for root
[03:26] <coleys> !codecs
[03:26] <koshari> linux101 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:26] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:26] <linux_trojan> #mythbuntu is a graveyard, they are barely alive to answer questions
[03:26] <danbhfive> linux101: I thought you couldn't install anything at all?
[03:26] <scunizi> linux101: you don't without functional repositories..
[03:27] <linux101> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:27] <linux101> i just get errors when i try to install
[03:27] <coleys> linux101, I believe you are not supported anymore. You'll need a more recent version of ubuntu.
[03:28] <scunizi> linux101: the oldest repository available is for version 6.06
[03:28] <linux101> explains y i cant install a thing
[03:28] <koshari> linux101 what version are you usung?
[03:28] <linux101> argh im starting to hate this
[03:28] <linux101> 5.1
[03:28] <linux_trojan> I am looking at your recommendations, bbl, thanks
[03:28] <scunizi> coleys: could linux101 change the repo references in synaptic and then just update?
[03:29] <doink12123> My keyboard does work with the PCSX emulator? How do i fix this?
[03:29] <coleys> scunizi, No, don't think so.
[03:29] <koshari> linux101 thats 4 years old!
[03:29] <linux101> its the only operating system cd i have
[03:29] <coleys> Updates are sketchy anyways...
[03:29] <koshari> linux101 is there any reason you cannot up grade?
[03:29] <doink12123> linux101: you cannot burn a new one?
[03:29] <coleys> koshari: Hes way past LTS. =P
[03:29] <scunizi> linux101: either order the cd, contact the local loco in your area, attempt the netboot install link given earlier
[03:29] <coleys> koshari: So the servers are allllll dead.
[03:30] <linux101> i have a blank dvd r but i cant install burning software
[03:30] <koshari> coleys?
[03:30] <koshari>  linux101 use netbootin
[03:30] <coleys> linux101: http://getdeb.net
[03:30] <linux101> sunizi the netboot install will work?
[03:30] <purpzey> If I upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty will it effect my home directory and application settings?
[03:30] <koshari> linux101 unetbootin
[03:30] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:31] <koshari> purpzey noty if you back them up
[03:31] <coleys> linux101: See if you can find burning software at http://getdeb.net
[03:31] <linux101> coley it wont let me install it will say package not found
[03:31] <scunizi> linux101: you have nothing to loose.  give it a try
[03:31] <linux101> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[03:31] <linux101> is this unetboot
[03:31] <koshari> coleys you dont need burning software with netbootin
[03:31] <koshari> unetbootin
[03:31] <coleys> Tell him that =P
[03:31] <danbhfive> linux101: no, its not, but give it a try anyway.  Its a net install
[03:32] <koshari> linux101 use a usb drive
[03:32] <Hilikus> i installed i don't remember what to be able to play flash in FF, for all of them i get a play icon (the triangle) but most of them don't work after clicking them. some do though. any idea what's the problem?
[03:32] <linux101> i only have a 512mb
[03:32] <koshari> linux101 get another one,
[03:32] <koshari> there cheap
[03:32] <koshari> 10 dolalrs
[03:33] <linux101> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[03:33] <linux101> im gonna try this
[03:33] <coleys>  koshari What if he wants installed now... =)
[03:33] <linux101> ahh even this netboot is to difficult for me
[03:33] <koshari> he could use unetbootin and get the minimal iso which is 15meg and do the rest over the net, but it will be test installer and very slow
[03:34] <linux101> FU WINDOWS
[03:34] <koshari> linux101 unetbootin is simple,
[03:34] <linux101> these commands and directories are cnfusing me
[03:34] <koshari> linux101 and unetbootin runs on windows or linux
[03:35] <linux101> link?
[03:35] <koshari> linux101 http://www.h33t.com/details.php?id=0af99609353a41eb92e9261acbcff0e7b4ab2af2
[03:35] <danbhfive> linux101: the other option is: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/   it will take awhile, but it will be an easier learning curve :)
[03:35] <koshari> linux101 sorry wrong link
[03:35] <koshari> linux101 http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[03:36] <linux_trojan> it looks like xbmc is not for actually watching tv, but for viewing media?
[03:36] <mase_work> linux101: also your local newsagent/ magazine store probably has a computer magazine with ubuntu included on it
[03:36] <koshari> linux_trojan correct,
[03:36] <dragon_> !enter | koshari
[03:37] <linux_trojan> the game is all locked up
[03:37] <thesandman>  can anyone explain to me what x-session mangager is and how to disable it?
[03:37] <koshari> dragon it was the wrong link yu clown
[03:37] <linux101> unetbootin will download the isos as well?
[03:37] <scunizi> thesandman: are you trying to install a video driver and following instruction?
[03:37] <mase_work> linux101: yes it can do that for you
[03:37] <koshari> linux101 no you download the iso you want to place on your key
[03:38] <mase_work> koshari: no, the new versions do this for you
[03:38] <mase_work> well they can do this for you
[03:38] <Mr_Sonoma> has anyone tried Jaunty with a Verision 720 aircard? how successful were you?
[03:38] <scunizi> koshari: his key isn't large enough.. he needs to use unetbootin on a seperate partition
[03:38] <linux101> i downloaded unetbootin and it wont open the file...
[03:39] <dragon_> Mr_Sonoma: you might want to check the documentation, if there's anything mentioned about your card
[03:39] <dragon_> !wifi | Mr_Sonoma
[03:39] <koshari> scunizi he can use the minimul iso and install text mode ,
[03:39] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks
[03:39] <scunizi> koshari: ah! I forgot about that..
[03:39] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:39] <PATPAT> Why can't I do sudo su?
[03:39] <dragon_> PATPAT: it's a bad practice.
[03:39] <danbhfive> PATPAT: sudo -i
[03:39] <scunizi> PATPAT: ubuntu doesn't support it..
[03:39] <koshari> scunizi although i still beleive hes better off getting another usb key
[03:40] <PATPAT> yes it does
[03:40] <scunizi> koshari: me too .. or contacting the local lug or loco
[03:40] <linux101> when i try to open it it says cannot display unetbootin
[03:40] <Mr_Sonoma> is your root account disabled?
[03:40] <linux101> what am i suppose to do?
[03:40] <papna> Is it possible to make a popup in another user's graphical environment? A Gnome equivalent of write?
[03:40] <PATPAT> why can't i do this sudo look PS3 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:40] <roxie> i am running ubuntu netbook remix and when i went to youtube to play a video this is what is says "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. " what should i do? im new to ubuntu
[03:40] <leaf-sheep> !flash | roxie
[03:41] <dragon_> PATPAT: you need to add the user to the group "admin"
[03:41] <PATPAT> Oh alright
[03:41] <PATPAT> thank you
[03:41] <dragon_> PATPAT: usermod -aG admin PS3
[03:41] <PATPAT> one more question
[03:42] <PATPAT> when i log on into my account why does this stupid thing ask me for a pass key?
[03:42] <PATPAT> usermod admin does not exist it say
[03:42] <danbhfive> PATPAT: its because your passwords are encrypted, I believe
[03:42] <roxie> the "click here to install flash" doesnt work
[03:42] <linux101> can some1 help me with unetbootin
[03:42] <PATPAT> ok so what does it what me to do
[03:43] <PATPAT> ok so all i have to do is add it to admin group then i can do sudo su right
[03:43] <koshari> linux101 what do you want to know
[03:43] <Dulak> PATPAT: sudo -i
[03:43] <PATPAT> yea
[03:43] <linux101> i downloaded it and now i am trying to run the unetbootin file
[03:43] <dsdeiz> i always get this error message in pwsafe "WARNING: pwsafe unable to use secure ram (need to be setuid root)".. any ideas?
[03:43] <linux101> but im egtting an error
[03:43] <dragon_> DarkMage26: you have encountered a kernel bug. You should check if there's a related bug report, and if not, file one.
[03:43] <PATPAT> they are doing sudo su everwhere
[03:43] <koshari> linux101 what is the error
[03:44] <linux101> Failed to run /home/test/Desktop/unetbootin-linux-356 'rootcheck=no':
[03:44] <linux101>  Wrong password.
[03:44] <dragon_> DarkMage26: note the line that says: Jul  1 19:20:29 holly-desktop kernel: [ 1218.283173] kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.28/arch/x86/mm/pat.c:298!
[03:44] <dragon_> !enter | linux101
[03:44] <PATPAT> !penis
[03:44] <linux101> sorry
[03:44] <thesandman> scunizi: no I was trying to install some apps to work with k3b and brasero to burn and copy dvd's but that was like way before I formatted my system....and the x-session manager is still here for some reason...does anyone know what it is?
[03:44] <PATPAT> !penis
[03:44] <koshari> linux101 are you running it as sudo?
[03:44] <dragon_> !ops | PATPAT
[03:45] <DarkMage26> dragon_: what should I look for in the bug reports?
[03:45] <scunizi> !X | thesandman
[03:45] <elky> PATPAT, are you planning to contribute anything valuable to this discussion at all?
[03:45] <linux101> im double clicking to open and type the password but it just gives me the same error i am not using terminal
[03:45] <dragon_> DarkMage26: a situation similar to yours. By the way, are you running on a customized kernel?
[03:46] <PATPAT> Yes...possibly in the near future.........
[03:46] <thesandman> thanks ubot!!!!!!!!!....LOL....
[03:46] <linux101> koshari can u please help me out
[03:46] <scunizi> thesandman: to kill the x session in gnome type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. in kde use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[03:46] <DarkMage26> dragon_: how do I know. This is a fresh install from live cd with all the newest updates.
[03:46] <elky> PATPAT, good, well if you can abstain from the pointless and immature nonsense until that time, it'd be appreciated
[03:47] <dragon_> DarkMage26: then it's not customized.
[03:47] <PATPAT> yes sir
[03:47] <elky> !guidelines > PATPAT
[03:48] <dragon_> DarkMage26: the best thing to do is to file a bug, and copy that trace there. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[03:48] <mobi-sheep> What's the best way to run VLC although I have no Xorg?  I don't mind installing Xorg but no GDM and such?  Something that would run VLC under X.
[03:49] <linux101> any1 please help me with unetbootin
[03:49] <dragon_> mobi-sheep: xfce?
[03:49] <scunizi> mobi-sheep: you could ssh -X <yada yada> to connect and have access to x related programs
[03:50] <mobi-sheep> scunizi: Uh.  I tried ssh and I ended up getting movie run in ascii mode.
[03:50] <mobi-sheep> scunizi: Not just ssh.  I ran that on the machine "vlc video.avi"
[03:50] <yoga> any indomesian people?
[03:50] <scunizi> mobi-sheep: movie in ascii mode is always interesting..
[03:50] <dragon_> !ot > yoga
[03:51] <draginx> anyone know how to get skype working on 64 bit with ubuntu 8.04? my sound isnt working with skype
...Thank you so kindly
[03:51] <dragon_> !skype | draginx
[03:51] <draginx> !Ekiga
[03:53]  * dragon_ drops a pin
[03:53] <linux101> mtools not found. This is required for USB Drive install mode.
[03:53] <linux101> Install the "mtools" package or your distribution's equivalent.
[03:53] <linux101> what do i do now?
[03:54] <dragon_> !find mtools
[03:54] <dragon_> !info mtools
[03:54] <dragon_> linux101: is this what you're looking for?
.....cans you re-give me those commands again please?
[03:54] <gogeta> msdos lol
[03:55] <gogeta> can you say old school
[03:55] <linux101> i dont know im trying to get unetbootin to work
[03:55]  * zerozerozero i am trying to install alsa on ubuntu server here is my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file http://pastebin.com/f614f3cfe. and my lspci -v | less output http://pastebin.com/f7a195c2.i noticed that in alsa-base.conf file the soundcard module is not present (i am planing to use te yamaha soundcard) so i want to add this line "options snd-card-ymfpci model=3stack" (there are 4 jacks on the soundcard).will this enable audio ???
[03:55] <dragon_> linux101: sudo apt-get install mtools
[03:55] <scunizi> thesandman: hang on and I'll give you a more complete link
[03:55] <gogeta> linux101: apt-get install unetbootin
[03:56] <gogeta> linux101: the one from the site has a dep issue for some reasion
...ok that's find too but I want those commands that you gave out earlier...for some reason I cant scroll up and get them the page has been deleted
[03:56] <draginx> dragon_, im getting Audio Playback errors =/
[03:56] <baz> i am trying to setup nfs on my client (server is already set up) do I need to apt-get nfs-common? Anything else to apt-get?
[03:57] <gogeta> linux101: have your usb device aruldy mounted and start unetbootin all should go well
[03:57] <linux101> i cant install mtools
[03:57] <samorai> hello!
[03:57] <scunizi> thesandman: ssh -X <yada yada> is what I gave you.. here's a link http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=ssh+x11+forwarding+ubuntu&aq=f&oq=ssh+x11+forwarding&aqi=&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=kE0CVI1PqvM
[03:57] <dragon_> draginx: i've seen those. hold on.
[03:57] <linux101> gogeta i am doing a frugal install from harddrive
[03:57] <samorai> some wone can help me to install chat on my own serveur
[03:58] <gogeta> linux101: you mean a wubi?
[03:58] <dragon_> samorai: what kind of chat?
[03:58] <koshari> dragon hes running 5.10 with no repos
...that's not what you gave me earlier....as far as commands...they were gnome and kde x-session commands to remove the x-manager
[03:58] <linux101> and i cant install a thing so im out of luck
[03:58] <dragon_> koshari: what do you mean?
[03:58] <gogeta> linux101: oh easy make a iinstall partation have unetbooting install there
[03:59] <samorai> dragon_ it's flash chat
[03:59] <koshari> dragon he cannot install anything from the repos as they are no more for 5.10
[03:59] <linux101> i cant just make a partition
[03:59] <dragon_> koshari: who are you talking about?
[03:59] <linux101> MEEEEEEEE
[03:59] <gogeta> linux101: you just said you wanna do hs to hd install
[03:59] <gogeta> hd
[03:59] <linux101> yes
[03:59] <koshari> gogeta i beleive he cannot install unetbootin as he misses a dependency by the looks of it
[03:59] <geirha> !nfs | baz
[03:59] <koshari> dragon linux101
[04:00] <gogeta> koshari: get it from apt-get\\
[04:00] <gogeta> linux101: get unetbooting from apt-get
[04:00] <koshari> gogeta there are no 5.10 repos
[04:00] <samorai> dragon_  ?
[04:01] <linux101> what koshari said
[04:01] <dragon_> yeah samorai?
[04:01] <gogeta> koshari: lol
[04:01] <gogeta> 5,10 jeez
[04:01] <pnema> Use to be able to use the mouse whell to switch between windows but now I cannot. How do I fix?  (FYI: I just upgrade to Jaunty)
[04:01] <scunizi> gogeta: he has unetbootin .. apt-get doesn't work for him because the repos are so old they don't exist anymore
[04:01] <Apollo2366> Hey guys, recently downloaded emerald theme manager, and I'm watching a video on how to use it. Thing is, I was told to run emerald --replace and it worked, but when I closed the terminal, instead of the theme going back to human-clearlooks, it got rid of all window borders. No title bar, no buttons, no nothing. Help?
[04:01] <dragon_> linux101: time to upgrade?
[04:01] <gogeta> linux101: option to use grub to boot the iso directly
[04:01] <linux101> dragon thats what im tryong to do
[04:01] <root> hello everyone.  I'm having a weird problem
[04:01] <scunizi> Apollo2366: try emerald --replace &
[04:01] <coler> how do i deal with "ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server
[04:01] <dragon_> Apollo2366: emerald --replace &
[04:02] <MrJay> Hi
[04:02] <linux101> gogeta i wouldnt know how to do that
[04:02] <gogeta> linux101: dont you have a spare cdr
[04:02] <koshari> gogeta he has no burning software
[04:02] <dragon_> coler: use a terminal to type "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:02] <linux101> a blank cd? yes but no burning software
[04:02] <dragon_> !terminal | coler
[04:02] <linux101> and respos to download burning software
[04:02] <SeaPhor> if you log in as root, then you really do have a problem, but prolly not the one you came here for...
[04:03] <gogeta> linux101: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774539
[04:03] <Apollo2366> That got the border back, not human clearlooks though. Plus whenever I close the terminal, it repeats the problem
[04:03] <gogeta> bootting iso w grub
[04:03] <MrJay> can someone answer a question for me
[04:03] <dragon_> linux101: where do you live?
[04:03] <pnema> How does one configure the mouse wheel to switch between virtual windows?
[04:03] <geirha> Apollo2366: And don't close the terminal with the X button. Type "logout" or hit Ctrl+d to close it
[04:03] <dragon_> linux101: i feel like mailing you a CD
[04:03] <gogeta> linux101: just dont format the drive installing from
[04:03] <koshari> linux101 out of interest what are the specs of your machine?
[04:03] <draginx> dragon_, any continuation..? :P
[04:04] <gogeta> linux101: yea ubuntu mailes free cds
[04:04] <geirha> Apollo2366: Make that "exit", not "logout"
[04:04] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> hello guys.... being a debian user since a while and now a jaunty user, i have a query. how does ubuntu handles the package suggestions in a terminal? i.e. when a package is not installed , it suggests to install it using apt-get.... is there a specific package for such behaviour ?
[04:04] <linux101> its a core2duo like 2gb ram  and some crappy hdd
[04:04] <dragon_> draginx: running skype now
[04:04] <linux101> i guess its back to windows for me
[04:05] <koshari> linux101 why dont you use unetbootin in windows?
[04:05] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> if neone could clear my query, would be informative
[04:05] <scunizi> linux101: if you go to windows you can burn a cd of ubuntu
[04:05] <pnema> How does one configure the mouse wheel to switch between virtual windows?
[04:05] <coler> i keep getting You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server
[04:05] <dragon_> draginx: skype wouldn't run on my machine. there was a setting under hardware section in skype i guess. tried playing with those?
[04:05] <Apollo2366> Mkay, the window border is persistent now, but how do I switch control back and forth between Emerald and the default themer?
[04:05] <coler> i already ran it in terminal
[04:05] <linux101> im gonna buy windows 7 i dont have any windows cd if i buy 7 i dont plan to go back for a while
[04:05] <linux101> plus windows 7 is like $50 for preorder
[04:05] <jeffs> how do I use 3d desktop switcher?
[04:05] <draginx> dragon_, the sound things? yeah man
[04:05] <dragon_> linux101: i hate you.
[04:06] <koshari> linux101 buy a 1gb usb stick instead
[04:06] <pnema> coler: I was advise to rm the xorg.conf file and it worked for me
[04:06] <scunizi> linux101: as an upgrade only.. you have to already have an install cd to use it
[04:06] <geirha> Apollo2366: gtk-window-decorator --replace &
[04:06] <linux101> ill figure it out :P dont hate me i tried ubuntu atleast
[04:06] <linux101> :(
[04:06] <linux101> later bye
[04:06] <coler> what is x server, (said to restart x server)
[04:06] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[04:06] <dragon_> linux101: good luck.
[04:07] <Apollo2366> geirha, Cool, thanks :)
[04:07] <scunizi> coler: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart in a terminal
[04:07] <dragon_> draginx: not sure what's the exact cause. maybe try searching the forums, and google.
[04:07] <samorai> I check someone how can help me to install flash chat
[04:07]  * dragon_ gotta go. later peeps
[04:07] <draginx> dragon_, already doing :) thanks mate
[04:07] <leaf-sheep> mobi-sheep:
[04:07] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> can anyone clear out my query above? : (
[04:07] <pnema> coler: what hardware are you using?
[04:08] <dragon_> sh4d3sl4y3r_: it's a feature called command-not-found
[04:08] <Tjh_> hi i have installed language-pack-gnome-sa and language-pack-sa-base, where do i change language to sa?
[04:08] <dragon_> info command-not-found | sh4d3sl4y3r_
[04:08] <wabob> date
[04:08] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ok thanks man
[04:08] <wabob> %date
[04:08] <wabob> $date
[04:09] <dragon_> !flood | wabob
[04:09] <Shwaiil> Q: I want to start using ubuntu (I have no experience with any linux distro); I want to get a manual, to help me learn it, but I dont have enough money for current books. So, how  diferent is Ubuntu 6.06LTS compared with newer versions? Will the book help me ? (Actually, I'm probably going to install that old version of ubuntu). Tks for your time!
[04:09] <wabob> !flood
[04:09] <wabob> !date
[04:09] <dragon_> !botabuse > wabob
[04:09] <Tjh_> hi i have installed language-pack-gnome-sa and language-pack-sa-base, where do i change language to sa?
[04:09] <dragon_> Tjh_: right before you login
[04:10] <scunizi> Shwaiil: you can download a pdf for free.  http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[04:10] <Tjh_> umm there is no sa in the menu HELP
[04:10] <scunizi> Shwaiil: if you install anything then install version 8.04
[04:11] <geirha> Tjh_: Try installing the language packs with System -> Administration -> Language support
[04:12] <zerozerozero> where can i find modules.conf file?>
[04:12] <Tjh_> geirha: i dont have that option in my menu
[04:12] <Shwaiil> scunizi, thanks for your help! I really like to read books, in spare times, train, you know. So, an older book is like $3 bucks! So, its better to get something newer, like 8.04, right ? I supose is not a good idea to get the book for 6. something.
[04:13] <samorai> bye
[04:14] <Tjh_> geirha: he;llo? i managed to get the entry,   however sanskrit is not one of the languages listed
[04:14] <scunizi> Shwaiil: they are *very* similar.. small differences.. however version 6.06 isn't supported anymore.. ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months and occationally a LTS version like 6.06 or 8.04.. LTS = Long Term support
[04:14] <Tjh_> help
[04:14] <Tjh_> i have the sanskrit gnome base
[04:14] <Tjh_> but i have no way of enabling it
[04:15] <Shwaiil> scunizi, I supose just for the first 4 months, just to learn it, is ok. What do you think ? Newer books, is like $30 + shipping :P
[04:16] <Tjh_> anyone?
[04:16] <scunizi> Shwaiil: for $3 it's worth it.. makes a good reference..
[04:17] <Shwaiil> scunizi, Thanks for your help! I'm going buy it, keep for 4 months, when I'm done, I'll get up to current version, and start reading the newest, freely, available documentation online :)
[04:17] <short__error> does any one know how to go about installing the TSP Codec?
[04:17] <mazda01> anyone able to connect jailbroken iphone to ubuntu?
[04:18] <mazda01> for tethering internet purposes?
[04:18] <scunizi> Shwaiil: the best thing is to jump right in and learn while you do.. you can do that in windows using Virtualbox or ubuntu's provided wubi installer.. later you can install to an older machine or dual boot your current machine
[04:19] <Jimmio> Hello all, sorry to not specifically be on the topic of Ubuntu, but what does anyone of you here do to get motivated to complete something?
[04:20] <geirha> Tjh_: Hm, have you tried asking in the indian channel?
[04:20] <scunizi> Jimmio: motivation is an emotional response.. sometimes you just have to "do it" with no motovation..
[04:20] <Tjh_> geirha: wqhich is whaat?
[04:20] <Tjh_> geirha: where is the indian channel?
[04:20] <geirha> !in > Tjh_
[04:21] <Tjh_> o thx
[04:21] <Jimmio> scunizi: I'd love to do that... But I am in the position of "Why bother? It's not like anyone will want to use it..". This happens a lot when I'm writing software... I have to find something motivational.
[04:22] <jeffs> I have a M-audio Quattro usb sound card, which works well in ubuntu, but when I use it with jack, the sound is choppy and staticy. I tried fooling around with the jack settings, but no luck.
[04:22] <scunizi> Jimmio: If you can't do it for self satisfaction then you're doomed.. move on to something else
[04:22] <jeffs> I think that I may need a firmware update or something, or mabe I should disable the bios sound? any one?
[04:24] <mazda01> anyone use iphone to tether internet over bluetooth?
[04:25] <Tjh_> hmm that channel seems to be emtpty,, anyone?
[04:25] <Guest14623> does this channel offer ubuntu server suppport
[04:25] <scunizi> Guest14623: sometimes.. also #ubuntu-server..
[04:25] <root> hello
[04:26] <Tjh_> Guest89349: do not log in as root, log out create user and log back in as regular user...its for your own safety
[04:26] <Guest89349> ok
[04:26] <Tjh_> :p
[04:27] <mazda01> no one uses bluetooth?
[04:27] <Jimmio> !ask | mazda01
[04:28] <Jimmio> mazda01: What I meant was, ask your question, not if anyone uses bluetooth, unless that IS your only question
[04:28] <Tjh_> can someone please help me use the package
[04:28] <Tjh_> why is it there if no one knows how to make it do anything?
[04:28] <mazda01> can't seem to connect iphone to my hardy heron computer for tethering purposes. I am getting a connection refused error/
[04:29] <mazda01> I am using blueman from ppa repo for blue-utils.
[04:30] <wuqwhu> where can I ask questions about vpns in ubuntu
[04:31] <wuqwhu> where can I ask questions about vpns in ubuntu
[04:33] <Guest14623> i am pulling out my hair on this issue i am having . Please please can somone take a look and tell me what they think http://paste.ubuntu.com/207882/
[04:33] <shane2peru> I have a serious problem with my network settings on jaunty, how can I purge them and completely install them like the beginning?  I really hate the new jaunty network system
[04:33] <Apollo2366> Anyone know how to change the color of the text in the top and bottom panels?
[04:34] <Dulak> shane2peru: install wicd and laugh at all the suckers using network manager
[04:34] <shane2peru> is there any gui tool to work with network settings?
[04:34] <wuqwhu> #velug
[04:35] <shane2peru> Dulak: it seems as though they did away with network manager
[04:35] <Hilikus> how do i remove the packages that were installed as dependencies of a package taht i'm removing?? synaptic is leaving the dependencies installed
[04:35] <shane2peru> Dulak: it used to be nice, now it is a nightmere
[04:35] <Jimmio> Hilikus: sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:35] <shane2peru> is wicd easy, or is it going to hose my system?
[04:35] <shane2peru> Dulak: ^^^
[04:36] <risent> is there anyone who use gnome-do?
[04:36] <Jimmio> Hilikus: BE CAREFUL THOUGH. I've seen it comepletely uninstall ubuntu before. if you see Ubuntu-desktop as a package to be removed, DO NOT RUN IT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.
[04:36] <Dulak> shane2peru: well I haven't used anything but wicd in over a year now, it's superior to the way they were doing it
[04:36] <Hilikus> Jimmio: i'll try that, but i don't think it'll work
[04:37] <shane2peru> Dulak: at this point I would try anything, thanks for the tip, installing now.
[04:37] <Ghoti_> Morning, folks..  quick question- what's the best short-list of packages to remove in order to (somewhat) sanely remove X, GNOME, and all the associated things that depend upon them?
[04:37] <Jimmio> Hilikus: I never install via Aptitude when I can avoid it. It works perfectly normally, and after that run sudo apt-get autoclean to remove extra kernel data that's no longer needed
[04:37] <trollaxor> ubuntu rox!!!
[04:37] <shane2peru> Dulak: will this auto-replace my current messed up network manager?
[04:37] <Dulak> shane2peru: I believe it will uninstall it
[04:38] <Dulak> shane2peru: been over a year since I did it, I don't quite remember
[04:38] <xmedex> hello all
[04:38] <xmedex> i have a question here
[04:38] <edbian> Ghoti_: Remove "ubuntu-desktop"  then auto-remove everything else.  (Or use aptitude)
[04:38] <shane2peru> Dulak: it just dumped my applet, and seemingly disconnected me, but here I am. :)
[04:38] <edbian> xmedex: What might it be?
[04:38] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: I think you can't because Ubuntu-Desktop depends on it. That means everything gets uninstalled and it no longer boots.
[04:39] <shane2peru> Dulak: how do I edit wicd, or get into it?
[04:39] <xmedex> any details how to setup multiple ubuntu server
[04:39] <Dulak> shane2peru: Applications->Internet
[04:39] <Ghoti_> Jimmio, edbian: to confirm, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove, yes?
[04:39] <edbian> xmedex: What do you mean?  Please be more specific
[04:39] <shane2peru> Dulak: ahh, there it is, thanks
[04:39] <Ghoti_> Jimmio, edbian: I still want to be able to boot to a console, of course
[04:39] <xmedex> multiple server setup for thin client
[04:39] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Your system won't be usable anymore.
[04:39] <edbian> Ghoti_That will remove X, and Gnome.
[04:39] <edbian> Jimmio: I
[04:40] <Ghoti_> o.O
[04:40] <Dulak> shane2peru: the best part is, once you have everything setup, it will do the network config before login, so you get network before you are even logged in
[04:40] <shane2peru> Dulak: cool even got my dns stuff again
[04:40] <xmedex> any details how to???
[04:40] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Don't run that... It will also remove the linux kernel. I'm 99% sure of it.
[04:40] <edbian> Jimmio: Are you sure?  I'm pretty sure that you can still boot to a console without X / Gnome / Ubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <trollaxor> why is ubuntu so slow on my DP machine
[04:40] <trollaxor> i even overclocked it
[04:40] <Jimmio> edbian, Ghoti_: Hold on, let me see
[04:40] <shane2peru> Dulak: I think in hardy or intrepid it was simple and usable, either intrepid or juanty made a mess out of it, and took away the gui tools to fix things
[04:40] <edbian> Jimmio: I think you might be right
[04:41] <dsdeiz> some people in ##linux easily get ticked off
[04:41] <abe3k> guys, just so you should know, to move a group of buttons on the ubuntu panels just shift+middle drag them and make sure none of them are locked :D:D:D
[04:41]  * Ghoti_ does an apt-get --simulate
[04:41] <Dulak> shane2peru: I never liked that I didn't get network until after login, that's why I originally switched
[04:41] <xmedex> please somebody help me on how to setup & config for multiple server setup