[06:05] <MagicFab> DrZeus: will be waiting
[06:05] <jon_> Now just manually go into the file and change it? I tried writing the path and terminal and it isn't working.
[06:05] <linuxusr50> sorry rain.  missed your post while typing mine.
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thewayofzen about gpgerr
[06:05] <MagicFab> Amiracle: can you try executing those commands manually ?
[06:05] <mustard5> stevejesus, I've only ever been an ubuntu person...so I'm ignorant of other distros
[06:06] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  to the rescue again. thanks.
[06:06] <stevejesus> mustard5:  otherwise ubuntu is being very nice to me.  still not as finetuned as fedora, but apt-get is certainly a better tool than yum, and i am also learning that debs are a lot better managed than roms!  but this is also due to apt-get
[06:06] <_Dez> bur[n] er do i just put ifconfig ra0 up then dhclient ra0
[06:06] <rain`> !gpgerror
[06:06] <ubotu> rain`: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:06] <jon_> I'm in the propertys of chmod, if I change it there will it work?
[06:06] <stevejesus> mustard5:  not roms "rpms" lol
[06:07] <jon_> properties*
[06:07] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Tried typing bsd-csh and I get just # waiting for commands
[06:07] <mustard5> stevejesus,  :)
[06:07] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: rock. I have tethereal now. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again.
[06:07] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I'd need a little help that direction
[06:07] <SEJeff> sweetjesus, : np
[06:07] <Melissa83> Has anyone here tried installing Ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop with a Turion64/ATI Xpress 200M chipset?
[06:07] <jon_> WTF? It's saying I am not root, how can I access the root account?
[06:07] <bur[n] er> _Dez: no... look at the other examples in there and adapt it accordingly
[06:08] <SEJeff> jon_: sudo -s
[06:08] <jon_> sudo?
[06:08] <SEJeff> ubotu, tell jon_ about rootsudo
[06:08] <bur[n] er> !tell jon_ about sudo
[06:08] <mustard5> Melissa83, you worried about compatibility?
[06:08] <Melissa83> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[06:08] <oscarello> sudo su
[06:08] <jon_> K thanks brb
[06:08] <MagicFab> thewayofzen: try this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/10/msg01283.html
[06:08] <SEJeff> oscarello: sudo -s is the best way to do it
[06:09] <nalioth> ScislaC: please dont advise that
[06:09] <oscarello> SEJeff, whats the differnece  betwen sudo -s and sudo su?
[06:09] <Melissa83> mustard5: Well, i ran the install, it seemed to go OK, but on first boot, X fails to load. I've reconfigured it several times, looked through the error log, and looked all over google/FAQ sites and haven't found much of anything useful. This seems SEMI - useful but.... well, i'm still lost http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74274
[06:09] <nalioth> oscarello: please dont advise that
[06:09] <SEJeff> oscarello: sudo su goes through pam and the login process twice.
[06:09] <MagicFab> Amiracle: I am talking about the cups.... long command names
[06:09] <oscarello> ohh sorry
[06:09] <tsume> SEJeff: yep, its up now :)
[06:09] <sweetjesus> is sudo an ubuntu only thing? or will I find sudo in other *nix os'es too?
[06:09] <tsume> SEJeff: this rocks :)
[06:09] <SEJeff> oscarello: sudo su makes it slower than sudo -s
[06:09] <tsume> sweetjesus: sudo is software
[06:09] <jah_raztah> how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one?
[06:09] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Oh, you mean setting up the cups drivers manually??
[06:10] <tsume> sweetjesus: a distro is software placed together witht he linux kernel
[06:10] <Melissa83> had to find sudo -s earlier when i was trying to open the gdm.conf file and look at it, hehe. I was like "wtf?! i don't remember setting a root pw!"
[06:10] <nalioth> sweetjesus: sudo works in all unices
[06:10] <tsume> sweetjesus: sudo is a seperate project from ubuntu
[06:10] <nalioth> sweetjesus: you may have to enable it, tho
[06:10] <MagicFab> Amiracle: yes
[06:10] <tsume> sweetjesus: sudo is a addon, its not in base
[06:10] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I could, but I honestly don't know what difference that would make.  Do you have any idea why I am getting the error on the csh line?
[06:10] <jah_raztah> anyone?
[06:10] <sweetjesus> nalioth: cool. that's what I wanted to know.
[06:10] <M0nk3yB0y> Hello
[06:10] <SEJeff> Amiracle: do you have to have csh?
[06:10] <jah_raztah> how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one?
[06:11] <n0odl3> does anyone use pypanel?
[06:11] <SEJeff> Amiracle: Is that a requirement of the script
[06:11] <mustard5> Melissa83, do you have access to the machine?
[06:11] <MagicFab> Amiracle: that would give you more details on the error than just "not found"
[06:11] <SEJeff> Amiracle: if not, change it to bash
[06:11] <Amiracle> SEJeff: Yeah, csh or tcsh
[06:11] <john__> can someone direct me to a howto for recompiling a kernel under ubuntu.  every time i tried i get a kernel panic..
[06:11] <ubuntu> who can help me with an Ubuntu doubt ?
[06:11] <ubuntu> who can help me with an Ubuntu doubt ?
[06:11] <nalioth> ubuntu: please dont repeat
[06:11] <MagicFab> Amiracle: use this syntax:  "./command"
[06:11] <rain`> nalioth: LOL
[06:11] <Melissa83> mustard5: It seems as though my problem is specifically related to the ATI chipset in my laptop (if you want to see the exact specs, checkout http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7367878&type=product&id=1125465158282 )
[06:11] <sweetjesus> engrish.com
[06:11] <Melissa83> mustard5: yes, it's sitting right next to me
[06:11] <jon_> I went into terminal and typed it gksudo gedit then a window opened and terminal showed this: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:12] <n0odl3> or does anyone know how to use python?
[06:12] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  your method worked flawlessly as always thanks again.
[06:12] <M0nk3yB0y> I was discussing running Ubuntu on my servers insteed of Debian? A friend said it's a bad idea... but without giving me specifics. What's the real dea?
[06:12] <rain`> n0odl3: #python ?
[06:12] <mustard5> Melissa83, I'd like to peruse the xorg.conf in pastebin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:12] <pc22> thanks
[06:12] <nalioth> thewayofzen: ubotu is the know-it-all
[06:12] <_Dez> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:12] <[linner] > tritium: hi sweetie :)
[06:12] <mustard5> Melissa83, I suppose that going to be hard though :D
[06:12] <MagicFab> M0nk3yB0y: from what I've read server installs of Ubuntu use somewhat older packages - nalioth can u confirm ?
[06:12] <gwidion> Hi there!
[06:12] <tsume> my favorite activity
[06:12] <gwidion> I am having an issue with Ubuntu and raid 1
[06:12] <tsume> watch movies on the 19" monitor, and code on the other
[06:12] <tsume> yip
[06:12] <_Dez> if i put this in my /interfaces iface eth0 inet dhcp will this automaticly do everything for me?
[06:12] <tsume> :)
[06:12] <sweetjesus> linner = lunch + dinner?
[06:13] <SEJeff> jon_, try sudo xhost localhost
[06:13] <[linner] > sweetjesus: you got it kiddo
[06:13] <mustard5> Melissa83, what drivers is it using according to xorg.conf now?
[06:13] <M0nk3yB0y> Older then the Desktop Version
[06:13] <nalioth> MagicFab: not so. the 'server' option on an ubuntu install cd is as up to date as anything else, just has no X
[06:13] <Amiracle> MagicFab: If I use that syntax I get "bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[06:13] <Amiracle> MacFab: Regarding the /bin/csh
[06:13] <sweetjesus> [linner] : yay.
[06:13] <[linner] > sweetjesus: actually  i made it that way because i was building a linux box during dinner... so really it's linux + dinner
[06:13] <jon_> Whats that? Is that where I type is sudo chown example' ?
[06:13] <SEJeff> Amiracle: can you put the script on a pastebin?
[06:13] <M0nk3yB0y> nalioth: Thx
[06:13] <sweetjesus> [linner] : that's commitment.
[06:13] <Amiracle> SEJeff: sure
[06:13] <jah_raztah> anyone have nay idea how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one on breezy?
[06:13] <gwidion> So, it looks like the raid1 module is not in the initrd.img - taht gives me nasty error messages when the FSs have to be checked. I need help getting the raid1 module into the initrd.img.
[06:13] <Melissa83> mustard5: Mind a PM? I'm having a hard time parsing through all of this, hehe
[06:14] <_Dez> tsume were you talking to me?
[06:14] <Melissa83> mustard5: I'm also bringin the laptop up now so that i can open it up again
[06:14] <FR500> jah_raztah, afaik grub doesn't come with a boot screen
[06:14] <MagicFab> nalioth: hmpf! actually heard that at UBZ!
[06:14] <nalioth> jah_raztah: please wait a few minutes between repeating the same question. we are not ignoring you, we just dont know your answer
[06:14] <tsume> _Dez: did i? sorry
[06:14] <mustard5> Melissa83, /join #kubuntu-offtopic plz
[06:14] <n0odl3> rain`: how do i set up a program using python
[06:14] <[linner] > sweetjesus: why not do two things you love at once...  :)
[06:14] <n0odl3> rain`: pypanel needs to be set up usin python
[06:14] <jon_> So is there anyway I can just find the 'root' password?
[06:14] <rain`> n0odl3: i have no idea
[06:14] <MagicFab> nalioth: can u help Amiracle ? I am almost guessing stuff
[06:15] <nalioth> MagicFab: help them with what?
[06:15] <FR500> jon_, root login is disabled
[06:15] <FR500> jon_, i think you gotta enable it in grub
[06:15] <michael_turley> hi, all.  where should I go to find help with firefox on ubuntu?
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> does jabber save conact list?
[06:15] <jon_> Alright, so i'll reboot. How do I do that?
[06:16] <gwidion> FR500, jon_ no need for that.
[06:16] <SEJeff> jon_: sudo shutdown -r now
[06:16] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use python to set up a prograM?
[06:16] <[linner] > does anyone know if official breezy fixed the broadcom wireless problem???
[06:16] <gwidion> jon_ just do sudo  passwd
[06:16] <M0nk3yB0y> I've been running Debian for the last four years and I have to say I'm very impressed with Ubuntu... So if any of the maitainers or project cordiantor are listening... GOOD JOB!
[06:16] <SEJeff> n0odl3: /j #python
[06:16] <gwidion> and create a password for root.
[06:16] <jon_> Alright, wait? sudo is the password?
[06:16] <nalioth> michael_turley: ask your question here
[06:16] <Amiracle> SEJeff: Done
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> jon_: by default, ubuntu comes with the root account disabled
[06:16] <michael_turley> thanks, nalioth
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> jon_, google it and you will find more info
[06:16] <jon_> Alright.
[06:16] <gwidion> jon_ : no need to reboot - are you there?
[06:16] <SEJeff> Amiracle: I kind of need a URL
[06:16] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: i'm really baffled by my lack of connection sharing :(
[06:16] <michael_turley> i can't get firefox to start unless i
[06:17] <tsume> wow
[06:17] <gwidion> jon_: no, sudo is the command to issue root commands without a root password.
[06:17] <michael_turley> unless i'm sudo'ed
[06:17] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: you're baffling me too
[06:17] <FR500> jon_, he mean, type "sudo passwd"
[06:17] <tsume> now using gnome and KDE on a dual seems to pathetic
[06:17] <Amiracle> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4290
[06:17] <MagicFab> jah_raztah: try this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/10/msg01283.html
[06:17] <tsume> I think I'll start using fluxbox again
[06:17] <markw> so am I pushing my luck?
[06:17] <jon_> Ohhh!! Great, this clears everything up
[06:17] <Amiracle> nalioth: Check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4290
[06:17] <SEJeff> tsume: meh, use openbox
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: esp. as my install is new, and i've tried everything. I think.  i dunno. perhaps a few days sleep will help.
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> well nalioth i'm heading to bed - see ya soon.
[06:17] <jon_> Wooo! There we go.
[06:17] <michael_turley> i click the icon, or find it under "applications" and get the taskbar box that says "starting firefox" but it never launches
[06:17] <pppoe_dude> so does jabber save your contact list? say if you log in from a different location?
[06:18] <gwidion> Anyone can help modifying the contents of initrd.img without recompiling the kernel?
[06:18] <jon_> You guys rock :D Soo...I think i'm just going to pick up 'Linux in a nutshell' at the bookstore.
[06:18] <MagicFab> pppoe_dude: yes jabber saves it
[06:18] <freefaller> I just installed 5.1 and I can't add multiverse or universe to the "update manager"
[06:18] <gwidion> jon_ beware - certain books are _quite_ outdated.
[06:19] <michael_turley> i can't figure out this problem because it didn't happen until a few days ago, weeks after installing ubuntu
[06:19] <crimsun> gwidion: you can always do that without recompiling the entire kernel. Just use mkinitramfs.
[06:19] <jon_> Yeah, i'll make sure to buy a newer copy.
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> freefaller, try adding deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[06:19] <MagicFab> michael_turley: weird. have you tried re-installing it ?
[06:19] <nalioth> freefaller: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list as detailed here
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell freefaller about repos
[06:20] <MagicFab> Amiracle: sorry, can't help you much more
[06:20] <jon_> Tell you this, even though I had to go through hell just to figure out something I still like Linux better than Wind0ws
[06:20] <[linner] > let me see if i can rephrase my question... is anyone else having broadcom wireless problems?
[06:20] <gwidion> crimsun: But I would need a compiled-kernel tree for that don't I? I just wnat to mount or otherwise chaneg the files in there.
[06:20] <michael_turley> yes, in the synaptic package manager?
[06:20] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Thanks for trying, I really appreciate that!
[06:20] <crimsun> gwidion: no, you don't
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> jon_, soon you'll start hating other things too... like stupid companies who dont make drivers for linux
[06:20] <MagicFab> [linner] : which specific problem did you refer to first ? I have broadcom w/o problems
[06:20] <jon_> Lol, like whom? Gentoo? Fedora?
[06:20] <michael_turley> i've reinstalled it, but never uninstalled it before doing so because it says it'll take my ubuntu-desktop, too.
[06:21] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: don't hate them man. Pester them. Find their contact email addresses and phone numbers. If enough people ask them, they will start supporting linux
[06:21] <nalioth> Amiracle: may i assume you've installed or checked the funtion of csh?
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> jon_, oh no, like ca*on, so*y, etc.
[06:21] <[linner] > MagicFab: I have a new compaq laptop with a broadcom wireless and have NEVER been able to get it to work
[06:21] <jon_> Oh
[06:21] <gwidion> crimsun: Ok - so, the problem I am having is I had set up raid 1, and at the time the system wants to fsck at boot, it doesn't have the raid 1 ready - I suppose this can be fixed by putting the raid1 module inside initrd.img, right?
[06:21] <MagicFab> michael_turley: it's not bad if you remove ubuntu-desktop, as long as you reinstall it
[06:21] <Amiracle> nalioth: Yep, csh and tcsh are all installed
[06:21] <michael_turley> i'm new enough to linux to fear removing the desktop...
[06:21] <MagicFab> michael_turley: just note which packages are being uninstalled
[06:21] <nalioth> Amiracle: in your console, type "csh" <enter> and then try the script
[06:22] <michael_turley> what do I use to reinstall it?
[06:22] <freefaller> ppoe_dude:  I tried and I get "error unable to get exclusive lock" ???
[06:22] <MagicFab> michael_turley: it doesn't remove the desktop
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, not from my experience... "Hi sir, how can I help you" "Hi I have linux blahblahblah" "Oh sorry sir, we can't continue this conversation any further..."
[06:22] <SEJeff> [linner] : install ndisgtk and then load the windows driver for your card
[06:22] <jon_> pppoe_dude : Alright I got passed the password thing and now to install it says : Change to the directory in which you want installed. What does that mean?
[06:22] <dazvid> Im trying to capture some video from my DV camera using Kino (through a 1394 cable) and it states that IEEE 1394 subsystem is not enabled. So how can I get this thing working?
[06:22] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: No, ask them when they are going to support it
[06:22] <Amiracle> Well, my console doesn't understand csh, that's the problem.  It does understand bsd-csh though.
[06:22] <[linner] > SEJeff: what is ndis?  is that the wrapper?
[06:22] <MagicFab> michael_turley: ubuntu-desktop is a "meta-package" that ensures other packages get installed as a whole (using dependencies)
[06:22] <nalioth> freefaller: you have too many apt-gets open
[06:22] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: Call sales, not tech
[06:22] <nalioth> Amiracle: something is wonky
[06:23] <michael_turley> so goto synaptic, tell it uninstall, then reinstall from there, too?
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, maybe i should
[06:23] <_Dez> wireless-essid any Will this make it conenct to any ??
[06:23] <freefaller> nalioth:  none, just the update manager window
[06:23] <nalioth> Amiracle: sudo apt-get install csh
[06:23] <glick> harvey birdman attorny at law is hilarious
[06:23] <SEJeff> [linner] : ndiswrapper is the only way to get broadcomm cards to work in linux. It uses the windows drivers
[06:23] <jon_> Where in general do I want to install things, thats kind of what I ment.
[06:23] <[linner] > SEJeff: i tried that prior to the breezy release and lord know it didn't work for me... that's why i had to uninstall it and put windoze back on
[06:23] <SEJeff> [linner] : ndisgtk is a gui that makes ndiswrapper easy to use for someone who isn't a shell scripting monkey
[06:23] <Amiracle> nalioth: If I use bsd-csh and ./command I get "Permission Denied"
[06:23] <nalioth> SEJeff: [linner]  runs a powerpc
[06:23] <MagicFab> michael_turley: yes
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> jon_, what was the problem sorry??
[06:23] <crimsun> gwidion: google probably has more clue than I do, sorry.
[06:23] <nalioth> Amiracle: install 'csh' using apt-get
[06:23] <[linner] > nalioth: no I don't...
[06:23] <SEJeff> nalioth: windows on ppc?
[06:23] <michael_turley> will I be able to stay on here as I do so?
[06:23] <nalioth> [linner] : you dont?
[06:24] <[linner] > nalioth: I have an AMD Turion 64 on a Compaq.... how quickly we forget! :)
[06:24] <jon_> Alright, now it's saying I need to install it to a directory path name. Where should I install programs?
[06:24] <M0nk3yB0y> Is anyone running Ubuntu for their servers?
[06:24] <Amiracle> nalioth: apt-get install csh - nothing new, upgraded, or installed
[06:24] <[linner] > SEJeff: No... don't listen to him... about my machine :)
[06:24] <gwidion> crimsun: Thank you anyway - I have a starting point. I could not get to mkinitramfs in google prior to getting here.
[06:24] <MagicFab> M0nk3yB0y: yes
[06:24] <tsume> M0nk3yB0y: I had a hoary server, but it was a bit of a pain for what I needed it for
[06:24] <Amiracle> nalioth: It says it's there
[06:24] <JaMiNkLe> does snes9x even work on ubuntu
[06:24] <white_lightning> does anyone have ANY expirience with America's Army on a 64-bit installation?
[06:24] <tsume> M0nk3yB0y: though my setups are extreme
[06:25] <SEJeff> JaMiNkLe, zsnes does. And it is much better
[06:25] <tsume> M0nk3yB0y: i hve to compile everything anyway :) Ubuntu is great for a server
[06:25] <pppoe_dude> jon_, are you compiling something?
[06:25] <JaMiNkLe> i need a ppc version and zsnes isent
[06:25] <michael_turley> MagicFab: can I stay on this chat channel as I uninstall and reinstall firefox?
[06:25] <MagicFab> michael_turley: yes
[06:25] <jon_> I have no clue, I just downloaded the (self-extracting) linux file from Java.com
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, OH
[06:26] <_Dez> how would i add no acpi to grub ??
[06:26] <Amiracle> nalioth: A little background - If I go to localhost:631, my printer is recognized and is set to it's USB port.  The CUPS driver is recognized but the printer won't print.  I think it all goes back to this csh business.
[06:26] <jon_> :)
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, install it to /opt/java
[06:26] <white_lightning> does anyone have ANY expirience with America's Army on a 64-bit installation?
[06:26] <white_lightning> Cheat protection disabled
[06:26] <white_lightning> WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[06:26] <white_lightning> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[06:26] <MagicFab> michael_turley: unless you're using chatzilla like me
[06:26] <M0nk3yB0y> We are getting a bunch of new AMD64 servers this month... and since Debian doesn't have an "Official Build" for AMD64 I'm thinking about putting on Ubuntu insteed
[06:26] <jon_> usr/java won't work?
[06:26] <tga> good idea, linux should come in a self-extracting file
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, or any directory for that matter
[06:26] <nalioth> white_lightning: please dont paste
[06:26] <[linner] > SEJeff: ok... so apt-get ndisgtk right?
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, youll have to add it to path later anyway
[06:26] <[linner] > SEJeff: then do what?
[06:26] <SEJeff> [linner] : Yes
[06:26] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I'm using the X-chat.  I don't think that's dependent on Firefox.
[06:26] <tga> M0nk3yB0y, are they Sun Galaxies? :)
[06:26] <jon_> Thats what i'm doing now. It wants a directory path.
[06:26] <nalioth> Amiracle: without being able to log into a csh shell, i'm lost
[06:26] <M0nk3yB0y> No Penguin Computing
[06:26] <z3r0x> has anybody installed google map on linux?
[06:27] <MagicFab> michael_turley: X-chat is ok - go!
[06:27] <[linner] > z3r0x: I didn't know that you could...
[06:27] <pppoe_dude> jon_, you can install it to any directory, and then put it in the $PATH so programs can find it without looking
[06:27] <SEJeff> [linner] : It puts a menu entry somewhere under System --> Administration --> Windows Wireless Drivers
[06:27] <_Dez> how would i add no acpi to grub ??
[06:27] <tga> z3r0x, you can't 'install' Google Maps
[06:27] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I'll give it a try...  but before I do...  there's no chance this'll trash my data directories on my second and third HDDs, right?
[06:27] <z3r0x> [linner] , is only for linux
[06:27] <[linner] > SEJeff: define "it"
[06:27] <MagicFab> z3r0x: unless you mean Google Earth
[06:27] <z3r0x> [linner] , sorry I mean for windows
[06:27] <Amiracle> nalioth: Yeah it's crazy.  If I type in csh <enter>: bash: csh: command not found
[06:27] <jon_> K, so just type in usr/java
[06:27] <z3r0x> MagicFab, ups yes google earth
[06:27] <[linner] > z3r0x: oh okay
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> jon_, yes "/usr/java"
[06:28] <Amiracle> nalioth: Thanks for your help though, it's appreciated!
[06:28] <tga> z3r0x, that's Google Earth and there is no Linux version.. try wine maybe
[06:28] <_Dez> where do i edit the motd ??
[06:28] <jon_> 'No such file or dictionary' damn.
[06:28] <MagicFab> z3r0x: I'd suggest a virtual machine using qemu and Win2K
[06:28] <tga> _Dez, /etc/motd
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> _Dez, /etc/motd
[06:28] <z3r0x> I tried it with crossover office but it didn't work
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> jon_, create it then install in it
[06:28] <tga> z3r0x, then there's probably no easy way to get it working
[06:28] <SEJeff> [linner] : it as in apt-get install ndisgtk
[06:28] <jon_> The example shows to put it in cd...then go to cd/usr/java
[06:28] <MagicFab> tga: wine won't get you far
[06:28] <MagicFab> tga: at least not w/ GE
[06:28] <[linner] > SEJeff: ok...
[06:28] <JaMiNkLe> does qemu work with ppc linux?
[06:28] <nalioth> Amiracle: try installing csh with synaptic
[06:29] <tga> MagicFab, heh, then I guess you're SOL
[06:29] <nalioth> JaMiNkLe: it does
[06:29] <z3r0x> tga, hm ok :) I don't wanna use this windows crap
[06:29] <JaMiNkLe> :O
[06:29] <tga> z3r0x, I don't think you have much choice here
[06:29] <[linner] > SEJeff: If you say it works... then I'll try reinstalling again.
[06:29] <Amiracle> nalioth: it's installed
[06:29] <MagicFab> JaMiNkLe: I don't see why it wouldn't
[06:29] <SEJeff> [linner] : I have seen it work on 2 laptops I worked on
[06:29] <Amiracle> nalioth: I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it too
[06:29] <[linner] > SEJeff: were they NEW?
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> jon_, r you using the .bin file?
[06:30] <n0odl3> how do i uncompress a tgz file?
[06:30] <[linner] > I mean like July 2005 new...
[06:30] <MagicFab> tga: SOL ?
[06:30] <n0odl3> dont i use gzip -d?
[06:30] <SEJeff> [linner] : But you will need to have a copy of the windows drivers with the inf
[06:30] <jon_> pppoe_dude : Yes
[06:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about cli
[06:30] <SEJeff> [linner] : hp zd7000 series
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, gunzip <file> then tar -xvf <file.tar>
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: I have that... not a problem
[06:30] <nalioth> n0odl3: if you read this stuff, you'll become more powerful
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, theres also a one liner
[06:30] <SEJeff> [linner] : You should be good then
[06:30] <n0odl3> thank you nalioth
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: ok... i'll give it a whirl especially since compaq generally = hp
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: if it work dude, you're my hero
[06:30] <n0odl3> ppope_dude: cant i just pipe it?
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: ANd by the way, I'm a girl :)
[06:30] <MagicFab> z3r0x: qemu is not quick to install, but easy if you follow the docs
[06:30] <michael_turley> MagicFab: firefox is uninstalled now...
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, I think theres a tar-xzvf or something
[06:31] <nalioth> Amiracle: and when you type "bsd-csh" <enter> nothing happens?
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, i never use it though...
[06:31] <[linner] > ok guys i'm off so i can try to REinstall breezy....
[06:31] <jon_> can I just create a programs file and install my programs to usr/programs/program dictionary ?
[06:31] <[linner] > be back afterwhile :)
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, better do it in two steps coz the filename chages
[06:31] <Amiracle> nalioth: Oh no, then I get my csh command line
[06:31] <z3r0x> MagicFab, ok.... I found this -> Wine, as a Win32 API implementation for Unix, is useful now. You can run IE, Office 2003, Google Earth, ....
[06:31] <[linner] > SEJeff: thanks again!
[06:31] <MagicFab> z3r0x: I mean, creating the operating system (Win2K for example) is the long part
[06:31] <tga> MagicFab, sudo apt-get install wtf && wtf sol
[06:31] <nalioth> Amiracle: <sigh>
[06:31] <SEJeff> [linner] : Linux needs more women :-)
[06:31] <tsume> well later people
[06:31] <jon_> lol.
[06:31] <[linner] > SEJeff: why thank you :)
[06:31] <nalioth> Amiracle: run your script FROM that command line
[06:31] <tsume> I guess I didn't need help after all :)
[06:31] <Amiracle> nalioth: did that, no go
[06:31] <JaMiNkLe> lol ill make my gf install linux
[06:31] <n0odl3> oh i found out what went wrong
[06:31] <n0odl3> i was in the wrong dir
[06:32] <MagicFab> z3r0x: every thing I tried with Wine failed for me - but yes, you can try
[06:32] <Amiracle> nalioth: Permission denied
[06:32] <n0odl3> thanx for the help though
[06:32] <nalioth> Amiracle: then your script is screwed
[06:32] <Amiracle> nalioth: And I am in root
[06:32] <dazvid> MagicFab, did you you use wine 0.9.1 ?
[06:32] <nalioth> Amiracle: n/m your script is fine
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> Psi is really good, however, the difficulty lies in making other people use it
[06:32] <nalioth> Amiracle: chmod +x scriptname.sh
[06:32] <michael_turley> MagicFab: now reinstalling firefox.  I didn't close the Synaptic
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> "convincing others"
[06:32] <z3r0x> MagicFab, I'll try first with wine...windows is my last choice
[06:32] <SEJeff> [linner] : you're welcome
[06:32] <michael_turley> MagicFab: and now reinstalling gnome-desktop and those other misc things that went out with the uninstall....
[06:33] <cronik> hi everyone
[06:33] <dazvid> Hello
[06:33] <jon_> can i install it to the home folder and just make a folder in there titled: Programs then install all my progs into there?
[06:33] <SEJeff> jon_: linux doesn't work like that
[06:33] <MagicFab> dazvid: nope - haven't needed to lately
[06:33] <jon_> Oh.
[06:33] <SEJeff> jon_: You can't
[06:33] <z3r0x> I have an other question. always when I try to install a package over apt-get I get this warning: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, it can... if you really want it to
[06:33] <obscurite> Good evening guys. Anyone know how to make evolution send SMTP mail on an alternate port?
[06:33] <theturtl> anyone ever tried qemu versus Vmware 4.x ? i'm using vmware 4 and its ok, but could be faster
[06:34] <Amiracle> nalioth: Still no go
[06:34] <squareff> any reason timidity would work and kmid not?
[06:34] <MagicFab> michael_turley: following you
[06:34] <jon_> So then what? Where do I install my programs too?
[06:34] <obscurite> I only ask here because it's the defacto default mail client on ubuntu :)
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, but i wouldnt be a good way i guess
[06:34] <nalioth> Amiracle: then at this point , i'm out of ideas
[06:34] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: Lets not get technical. I doubt a newbie wants to learn to do the ./configure && make dance
[06:34] <MagicFab> !gpgerr
[06:34] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[06:34] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: Putting things in context, it can't
[06:34] <michael_turley> MagicFab:  thanks...  it's taking a long time re-setting up yelp, but doesn't seem to have hung
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, k sorry
[06:34] <obscurite> theturtl - vmware 4.5 and 5 have done very well for me. dont want to pay for the upgrade?
[06:34] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: But technically, you are correct :-)
[06:34] <MagicFab> theturtl: qemu has an accelerator, but it worked fast enough as it is for me
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> jon_, for the most part, you can use 'synaptic' to install most of the programs
[06:35] <obscurite> I just got vmware workstation running on ubuntu with a helpful webpage that showed me how to use gcc 3.4, link the kernel headers dir, etc
[06:35] <john__> obaueite: did you have to recompile your kernel to get them to work? thats what its telling me to do.
[06:35] <jon_> Alright, so how the hell do I even install it?
[06:35] <obscurite> I also had to use some patch
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> jon_, other programs that let you choose the path are generally better to install in some directory like /opt, so that you have control over the file tree
[06:35] <john__> can u find me tutorial
[06:35] <john__> i been tring and tring
[06:35] <john__> keep getting kernel panic on compiled kernel
[06:36] <john__> =/
[06:36] <john__> booting on sda1
[06:36] <jon_> alright. so i'll just try typing/opt
[06:36] <obscurite> is someone talking to me? lol
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> jon_, try that
[06:36] <markw> created two raid devices, 200mb /boot which was /dev/md0 and 196GB /dev/md1 which I put lvm on top of.
[06:36] <FarrisG> Is there a list of known issues with the fglrx ubuntu package?
[06:36] <n0odl3> is the canada server haveing problems because im getting gpg errors
[06:36] <michael_turley> MagicFab: about how long should yelp take to reinstall?  minutes?  tens of minutes?  more? (2.8ghz celeron, 256MB ram)
[06:36] <markw> the installer wrote /dev/md1 as /boot in fstab.
[06:36] <markw> :(
[06:36] <john__> obsurite?
[06:36] <obscurite> john__ - didn't realize you were talking to me
[06:36] <jon_> oO Nope. No such file or dictionary...all i'm doing is just typing 'opt/' do I need to add anything else like /usr/opt/
[06:37] <obscurite> john__: put my name in front of your msgs so I know
[06:37] <MagicFab> michael_turley: dpeends how fast you're connected/ how big th epackages are
[06:37] <n0odl3> wheere is the sources list again?
[06:37] <pppoe_dude> jon_ you have to type "/opt"
[06:37] <obscurite> john__: let me find that helpful web page
[06:37] <jon_> I did. Nope.
[06:37] <john__> obscurite: im tring to recompile kernel to use vmware..  been having problems.   ok that would be nice.
[06:37] <MagicFab> you can check details of the install
[06:38] <n0odl3>  is it /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> jon_, make that directory. go to a terminal, type "sudo mkdir /opt"
[06:38] <FarrisG> Whenever I ctrl+alt+F1 to get a tty, after I'm done and I ctrl+alt+f7, my screen gets some nasty image warping at the top and the system completely freezes, requiring a reboot. I've tried it with more than one ATI card and more than one mobo. Same problem
[06:38] <obscurite> john__: this is what I used http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638&highlight=vmware
[06:38] <bimberi> n0odl3: yes
[06:38] <Amiracle> nalioth: Thanks for your help.
[06:38] <john__> obscurite: what version of windows you running?
[06:38] <obscurite> john__: I am using default breezy kernel, no probs. had to use a patch though (which is mentoined on that page)
[06:38] <jon_> wtf? it's saying the file does exists, yet when I try to install it says it isn't a dic
[06:38] <MagicFab> FarrisG: instead of going to ctrl+alt+f7 I would issue a "startx" command
[06:38] <obscurite> john__: i run linux guests at this point only
[06:39] <MagicFab> or hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> jon_: you probably had the /'s wrong
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> jon_, or maybe the script is going whack
[06:39] <nalioth> Amiracle: i hate proprietary tainted stuff
[06:39] <michael_turley> MagicFab: Ok...  cable modem, still running.   (never thought I'd like IRC, but I see the appeal tonight, that's for sure)
[06:39] <z0rz> So what's the best vnc server to install on ubuntu?
[06:39] <FarrisG> MagicFab: But I already have X started
[06:40] <jon_> I'm doing exactly what your saying "sude mkdir /opt"
[06:40] <obscurite> So, noone knows how to make Evolution mail use an alternate SMTP port?
[06:40] <jon_> sudo*
[06:40] <MagicFab> FarrisG: why do you go to CTRL-ALT f1
[06:40] <n0odl3> arrgh! gpg errors!
[06:40] <obscurite> How can an advanced mail client not have an option to change SMTP port :)
[06:40] <n0odl3> is it because im using a bad mirror (ca)
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> jon_, yes but in the java installation, did you put /opt too?
[06:40] <MagicFab> n0odl3:
[06:40] <john__> obscurite: your the man!
[06:40] <MagicFab> !gpgerr
[06:40] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[06:40] <bimberi> z0rz: vino is already installed (configured via System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)
[06:40] <jon_> yep
[06:40] <obscurite> john__: enjoy :)
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, you probably need to download the keys
[06:40] <Amiracle> So long, farewell, aufviedersehen nalioth und MagicFab
[06:40] <MagicFab> obscurite: did you try the config files ?
[06:40] <z3r0x> MagicFab, I tried it with wine -> I need a file called c:\windows\system\psapi.dll :(
[06:40] <obscurite> john__: I found a slightly newer patch on that site, rather than the one they mention and it worked fine for m
[06:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: ade
[06:40] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: what do you need?
[06:41] <MagicFab> Amiracle: don't forget to ask Brother forums about Ubuntu support ;)
[06:41] <obscurite> MagicFab: no, i'll try it thanks
[06:41] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: i mean what do you mean?
[06:41] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1908818#post1908818
[06:41] <jon_> 1 sec, during installation I typed just like the example: "cd /opt" and created a new line... so I guessed it worked.
[06:41] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: my keys were fine until now whats wrong with them?
[06:41] <MagicFab> z3r0x: what you need is a full Windows licence in another partition ;)
[06:41] <MagicFab> z3r0x: lookup the file in google, who knows
[06:41] <MagicFab> nalioth: ade ?
[06:41] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, I don't know, but I had a bit of a problem similar to that before... I had to redownload them and update apt
[06:42] <obscurite> Anyone using xen with ubuntu?
[06:42] <dazvid> How do i enable my Firewire connection for read/write?
[06:42] <michael_turley> MagicFab: what is yelp, anyway?  (I'd check, but the Synaptic package manager is *still* busy)
[06:42] <dazvid> for use with kino video editor ^
[06:42] <n0odl3> thats site does not answer any of my questions
[06:42] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, namely, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys then apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[06:42] <n0odl3> why does my keys constatly brake?!
[06:42] <MagicFab> michael_turley: don't know
[06:43] <nalioth> MagicFab: i was told "auf wiedersehen" i responded with an unmarked "ade"
[06:43] <linuxgeek2> hi folks
[06:43] <MagicFab> linuxgeek2: what can we serve you tonight ?
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, I don't know. Which one breaks?
[06:44] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I'm not usually impatient, but this is taking far longer than even the update from the "preview" edition of breezy badger
[06:44] <linuxgeek2> I want some Indian food
[06:44] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: join #flood and ill show ou the message
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> ok
[06:44] <linuxgeek2> Do u serve indian food at the ubuntu restarant MagicFab
[06:44] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:44] <MagicFab> michael_turley: can you see the details of what it's doing ?
[06:44] <raghu> linuxgeek2: dal sambar
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> haha raghu
[06:45] <raghu> linuxgeek2: yo
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> Not dal sambar, I want chicken biriyani
[06:45] <jon_> pppoe_dude: Alright, I got int /opt now my terminal is like this: root@dffedfd4e: /opt .... now it needs me to create a dictionary for it...so now do I type: cd /opt/usr/java
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> and bacon and eggs for brealfast
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:45] <MagicFab> linuxgeek2: order placed
[06:45] <michael_turley> MagicFab: it now says "dependency problems, leaving unconfigured"
[06:46] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I hope that's only "yelp".   I'm gonna try again.
[06:46] <MagicFab> michael_turley: you need to reinstall the same packages
[06:46] <sizzam> anyone have a linux alternative to 'shortkeys' on windows?
[06:46] <sizzam> keyboard macros basically
[06:46] <linuxgeek2> Wow MagicFab My mouth is begining to water
[06:47] <Cindy> hi
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> MagicFab, Do u server fresh juice at the ubu restuarant too ?
[06:47] <michael_turley> MagicFab: it seems to be coming along now... gnome-desktop requires yelp, so I'm doing yelp first.
[06:47] <Cindy> can  anyone here please help me install this gdm-<IP_ADDRESS> to my ubuntu??
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> What do u have on ut menu MagicFab
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> your
[06:47] <silversurfer> why this gdm.
[06:48] <silversurfer> ?
[06:48] <_Dez> is there a editor for IceWM?
[06:48] <Cindy> how can i install it?
[06:48] <MagicFab> linuxgeek2: nope - that would be at #offtopic-tropicaljuices ;)
[06:48] <obscurite> Any evolution gurus happen to know offhand where the config is to set a custom SMTP port? :)
[06:48] <raghu> Cindy: it is apt-get what is the problem?
[06:48] <nalioth> linuxgeek2: MagicFab y'all talk food in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:48] <obscurite> (Yes, I am being a lazy SOB)
[06:48] <Cindy> apt-get --purge my gdm then i want to reinstall it
[06:49] <tga> obscurite, in the smtp window?
[06:49] <silversurfer> dpkg -i gdm....
[06:49] <Cindy> apt-get --purge remove<--- i mean
[06:49] <raghu> Cindy: it is apt-get insatll gdm
[06:49] <obscurite> tga: Hmm, I think I checked every darn option
[06:49] <silversurfer> not
[06:49] <obscurite> tga: you sure it's there, or are you teasting
[06:49] <obscurite> tga: teasing, rather
[06:49] <linuxgeek2> come to offtopic MagicFab
[06:49] <silversurfer> Use dpkg -i
[06:49] <silversurfer> It's like apt-get
[06:49] <raghu> Cindy: or apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> Cindy, apt-get reomove gdm to remove gdm
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> and apt-get install gdm
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> ???
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> remove
[06:51] <Cindy> silver it cannot access archive, where im gonna put the archive?
[06:51] <tga> obscurite, funny, it's not there\
[06:51] <regeya> vvvvv
[06:51] <nuck> are there packets that won't be captured by ethereal if its not run as root?
[06:51] <obscurite> tga: no kidding :)
[06:51] <regeya> adsd
[06:51] <tga> nuck, no, unless you specify a filter
[06:52] <FarrisG> Ok, here's another one: Is there a default keyboard shortcut to open up the "Screen Resolution" dialog?
[06:52] <nalioth> nuck: yes, all of em
[06:52] <tga> nuck, oh, if you're *not* root you can't even put the card in promiscuous mode
[06:52] <MagicFab> 'nite all
[06:52] <obscurite> Every google link I check says evolution doesn't allow you to change SMTP port
[06:52] <nuck> so the only way to run ethereal is as root?
[06:53] <MagicFab> obscurite: last resort - port forwarding ?
[06:53] <tga> obscurite, lame
[06:53] <nalioth> nuck: if you want it to work properly, yes
[06:53] <MagicFab> couldn't help it ;)
[06:53] <obscurite> MagicFab: barf
[06:53] <Delvien> Has anyone got their Microsoft Bluetooth mouse's scroll wheel working?
[06:53] <michael_turley> MagicFab: well, the reinstall didn't work..  I'll check here tomorrow.
[06:54] <nuck> i heard you can order ubuntu 5.10 cd for no charge... why? who pays for it?
[06:54] <IGOREKHORROR> Hello people
[06:54] <tga> nuck, you get billed for it next year, with 200% interest
[06:54] <Delvien> nuck if im not mistaken you pay for the cost of the CDr lol
[06:55] <tga> Delvien, ever heard of shipit?
[06:55] <tga> nuck, there's something about that in the shipit faq
[06:55] <nuck> what's 200% of free? :-p
[06:55] <Juhaz> nuck, cd's are practically free to produce in large quantities
[06:55] <tga> they're not free to ship internationally, heh
[06:55] <Delvien> tga nah, i wouldnt order it anyway, i can burn my own copy
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> jon_, mkdir creates directories
[06:56] <obscurite> I may have found a way to change SMTP port in evolution. One sec.
[06:56] <nuck> but someone from here is giving away ubuntu5.10 cds for free says he ordered / got it for free?
[06:56] <nalioth> nuck: shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <nuck> err maybe its some governement conspiracy and they installed spyware on ubuntu
[06:57] <nuck> he he
[06:57] <bigcoffee> .....
[06:58] <nprice> say i did a server install, what's the name of the virtual package(s) that i need to install to install all the normal GNOME desktop components?  I wanted to put 5.10 on but I only had a 5.04 CD so i figured i'd just do a server install and pull the rest from apt
[06:58] <nuck> the problem with ubuntu is it depends on the goodwill of people to make it going... what if the good people get tired?
[06:58] <Juhaz> they're shipping those discs simply because they want people to use ubuntu
[06:58] <nalioth> nprice: "ubuntu-desktop"
[06:58] <Kyral> nprice, ubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <Kyral> and now I sleep
[06:58] <nprice> thanks
[06:59] <SEJeff> nuck: How does it depend on people? Mark shuttleworth gave 10 million dollars to the Ubuntu Foundation to keep it going
[06:59] <SEJeff> nuck: 10 million dollars will keep it going for some time
[06:59] <nprice> been using freebsd and solaris for too long
[06:59] <nprice> heh
[06:59] <bluestrain> nuck: do some googling for interviews with Mark Shuttleworth.  You will find good answers.
[06:59] <nuck> where can i give another 10million?
[06:59] <obscurite> Okay, why they don't tell you this I don't know. You just add :PORT to the host name in the sending mail section for server name.
[07:00] <Delvien> nuck can i have 10 million ?:P
[07:00] <nuck> 10 million praises for job well done that is he he :-)
[07:00] <Delvien> anyone solve the MS bluetooth mouse scroll wheel bug yet?
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> Hi folks is ubotu a bot
[07:01] <pc22> how do i install w32 codec
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> ?
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> ubotu?
[07:01] <Delvien> yes geek
[07:01] <nuck> any chance ubuntu foundation can solicit financial help from bill gates?
[07:01] <cef> *sigh* damn evolution is a sucky program
[07:01] <SEJeff> nprice: the package name you want is gnome-desktop-environment and ubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <Delvien> a memory hog too
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> Delvien, can I command it to give me some howto links in wiki.ubuntu.org
[07:01] <nuck> ubotu is a bot? gosh i was picking a fight with it a while ago
[07:01] <ubotu> nuck: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> ?
[07:02] <bluestrain> and those are evolution's good points
[07:02] <nuck> shut up ubotu
[07:02] <SEJeff> nuck: no, because Mark founded it
[07:02] <Delvien> linuxgeek2 yeah say things like !restrictedformats and stuff
[07:02] <linuxgeek2> Delvien, How do I do that ?
[07:02] <Delvien> linuxgeek2 just type it
[07:02] <concept10> it seems that all popular applications are memory hogs, evolution, firefox, thunderbird, etc
[07:02] <n0odl3> which lines do i uncomment to activate the multiverse/ universe?
[07:02] <cef> bluestrain: yeah.. I have a message that is crashing evo... in an imap mailbox
[07:02] <Delvien> !restrictedformats
[07:02] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:02] <Mabus06> !botsnacks
[07:03] <ubotu> :)
[07:03] <linuxgeek2> u mean /msg him
[07:03] <linuxgeek2> !restrictedformats
[07:03] <regeya> indeed concept10
[07:04] <Mabus06> !ubotu
[07:04] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:04] <cef> bluestrain: so I fire up evo using -c cal (well it avoids the thing crashing) .. get into the prefs, turn off the mailbox, and it stops crashing
[07:04] <nuck> hafta go cheers
[07:04] <cef> bluestrain: however, if I go back into preferences and enable the mailbox - BANG! it crashes
[07:04] <concept10> firefox is using 191 mb currently on my system
[07:04] <rss> anyone here with Sony Vaio Laptops here?
[07:04] <rss> running Ubuntu on it?
[07:05] <concept10> rss, i just saw your question on #debian, the fn keys work for me on breezy with my laptop
[07:05] <rss> Are you able to use Fn key on it to change monitor settings?
[07:05] <n0odl3> which lines do i uncomment to activate universe?
[07:06] <n0odl3> nevermind that question
[07:06] <n0odl3> i have a more important one about gpg keys
[07:06] <rss> concept10: can you change even the contrast?
[07:06] <n0odl3> how do i upload keys to apt?
[07:06] <n0odl3> please help the gpg key problem is really gettin on my nerves
[07:06] <nalioth> n0odl3: what problem are you having?
[07:06] <concept10> rss, yes, they mostly all work.  contrast, volume, etc
[07:06] <rss> concept10: which is your model?
[07:07] <rss> is there anyway that monitor could be made to change contrasts through software?
[07:07] <n0odl3> nalioth: well you see two days ago i had  gpg problem with the us mirror so someone told me to switch to ca
[07:07] <linuxgeek2> !How to install true type fonts
[07:07] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, linuxgeek2
[07:07] <concept10> rss, I have a HP laptop ze5570 i think
[07:07] <nybble> Hello all
[07:07] <nybble> it seems me cd drive is on the fritz
[07:08] <markw> ok, what's a fast socal ubuntu mirror?
[07:08] <linuxgeek2> !fonts
[07:08] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[07:08] <n0odl3> nalioth: then today i had some gpg errors... i THINK i fixed it when i was able to update with the us mirror again
[07:08] <rss> concept10: mine is PCG-F270 -- Sony Vaio
[07:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about gpgerrs
[07:08] <kestas> guys what's that repo which has the java deb?
[07:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about gpgerr
[07:08] <concept10> rss, have you installed linux on it before?
[07:08] <pppoe_dude> !ubotu
[07:08] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:08] <kestas> !tell kestas about java
[07:08] <kestas> !about java
[07:08] <ubotu> kestas: Are you on ritalin?
[07:08] <markw> kestas: blackdown.org
[07:08] <linuxgeek2> !display
[07:08] <n0odl3> nalioth: however i am told that i have to find a way to add keys to apt using sudo to fix the problem permenantly
[07:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[07:08] <rss> concept10: yes... first Sarge then Breezy
[07:08] <kestas> markw, trhanks
[07:08] <IGOREKHORROR> All of you pederasts!!!!!!!!
[07:08] <nerdy2> hmm, anyone have problems connecting to their dbus session bus?
[07:08] <markw> kestas: at least it works for Debian.
[07:08] <dducko> Poor Bot.. so abused and no thanks
[07:09] <nalioth> IGOREKHORROR: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:09] <rss> concept10: Sony Vaio controls those settings through software... through proprietory drivers for windows
[07:09] <rss> concept10: Sony Vaio controls those settings through software... through proprietory drivers for window
[07:09] <pc22> nalioth, hi
[07:09] <n0odl3> nalioth: do oyu know what pppoe_dude is talking about?
[07:09] <nalioth> pc22: howdy
[07:09] <pc22> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:09] <kestas> markw, could you give me the sources.list line? I'm not sure where abouts the reop is?
[07:09] <rss> concept10: for linux... some one has reverse engineered it... but it's not working :(
[07:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pc22 about w32codecs
[07:10] <IGOREKHORROR> To me all the same... All of you pederasts!!!!!!!!
[07:10] <nybble> anyone having issues with their CD/DVD drive in Breezy Badger?
[07:10] <pppoe_dude> nalioth, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net 40976EAF437D05B5. then n0odl3 has to upload hem to apt.
[07:10] <concept10> rss, have you tried breezy on that laptop?
[07:10] <nalioth> pppoe_dude: that is not a proper gpg line
[07:10] <rss> concept10: running it...
[07:11] <nybble> as usual, no replies
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> --recv-keys
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> before #
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> riight..
[07:11] <concept10> rss, im not sure what you have to do to get them to work, because they worked out of the box for me.  maybe try and search for other linux users of that laptop, and check the wiki
[07:12] <rss> nybble: no, mine works very fine
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, try gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[07:12] <rss> nybble: is yours not working?
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> then sudo apt-key add ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[07:13] <nybble> nope :D
[07:13] <nybble> replaced it too
[07:13] <nybble> i should probably re-install ze kernel
[07:13] <n0odl3> ppope_dude
[07:13] <n0odl3> go back to flood
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> ok
[07:13] <n0odl3> i got some error
[07:13] <kestas> how is it not working?
[07:14] <kestas> not detected, not getting anything from it, getting strange output, it's slow, what?
[07:14] <nybble> kestas: detected, mountable, readable to a point. Whenever any data is to be accessed from the disc, it presents me with a FAIL
[07:14] <nybble> and this is on any disk
[07:14] <nybble> and same problem with brand new drive
[07:15] <concept10> you know what bugs me while using linux?  you start a task, and find out that something else needs to be configured and you forget what you were doing in the first place. Anyone else experience this or is my memory just bad?
[07:15] <nybble> from a different company
[07:15] <bonbon> hello
[07:15] <bonbon> how are you guys tonight?
[07:15] <gs> hi bonbon
[07:15] <bonbon> heehee
[07:15] <gs> good n u
[07:16] <bonbon> not bad, more playing with ubuntu tonight :)
[07:16] <nybble> yay bonbon
[07:16] <bonbon> I got ndiswrapper working last night, but now my card isn't working properly
[07:16] <bonbon> for wireless
[07:16] <bonbon> when it's active my connection is verry verry slow
[07:17] <nybble> ok this is odd
[07:17] <bonbon> so my goals tonight are: Install Wine, Install GParted, Mount a Shareable drive for windows/linux
[07:17] <bonbon> yeah, i think i need to port forward my wireless
[07:17] <nalioth> bonbon: gparted is default
[07:17] <bonbon> just not sure how to in linux
[07:17] <bonbon> oh, so gparted is in here?
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> A fly just hit my light.. and fell down like a burning zeplin
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> it was on fire O_o
[07:18] <dducko> Nice Light.
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> oh yeah
[07:18] <bonbon> been trying to get linux to access my NTFS partition so I can have mp3s on both OS without duplicating
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:18] <bonbon> so far, no luck
[07:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> are there any x86 "pda"s?
[07:19] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko:  Be careful, light may fall on your bed or desk!
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> sure BROKEN_LADDER
[07:19] <bonbon> My question at the momennt is wine-install related
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> i turned it off bonbon
[07:19] <bonbon> ah
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> that was too freaky
[07:19] <bonbon> hehe
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> bonbon: in fstab you gotta add a new line for the ntfs partition
[07:20] <Mr_Milenko> it wont be writable though..
[07:20] <bonbon> when i run the dpkg command or the tar -xf command it says "no c compiler found"
[07:20] <Mr_Milenko> and im too tired to remember the line
[07:20] <bonbon> not writeable is fine
[07:20] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[07:20] <obscurite> night all
[07:20] <nalioth> bonbon: install "build-essential"
[07:20] <holycow> anyone here use epiphany browser?
[07:20] <bonbon> i download in my big windows partition, just want to read mp3s and other files so I can listen to mymusic
[07:20] <nybble> Crazy Milenko... ha ha ha ha ha... crazy milenko hoo hoo hooo hoo hahahaha
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> lemme find it
[07:21] <nalioth> holycow: ask your question
[07:21] <holycow> is it possible to create a sub category in bookmarks? i don't see an obvious way to do it
[07:21] <bonbon> nalioth: apt-get?
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> hold on bonbon
[07:21] <nybble> Mr_Milenko: ICP fan?
[07:21] <nalioth> bonbon: yes, use apt-get
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> used to be
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> the name stuck
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:21] <nybble> :D
[07:21] <nybble> same hear really (former fan)
[07:21] <graig> im having all sorts of sound problems recording things.
[07:22] <graig> i
[07:22] <Mr_Milenko> still listen to em.. just not into it like i used to be
[07:22] <bonbon> nalioth: ok, i typed "sudo apt-get build essential"
[07:22] <graig> i get lots of static, and sometimes the volume of something i record is too low, and full of static.
[07:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bonbon about apt-get
[07:22] <bonbon> and i get a message that says "E: INvalid Operation"
[07:22] <nybble> graig: what are you using to record?
[07:22] <Belutz> bonbon, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:22] <bonbon> that bot is sweet
[07:23] <bonbon> keeps saying: couldn't stat source package
[07:24] <bonbon> ok, ran apt-get update
[07:24] <bonbon> now it just says "couldn't find package build"
[07:24] <bonbon> when i run install build essential
[07:24] <Belutz> build-essential mind the '-'
[07:24] <Belutz> not "build essential"
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> bonbon: mkdir /mnt/win | then in fstab /dev/hdXX  /mnt/win  ntfs  ro  0 0 (ASK SOMEONE IF THIS IS RIGHT FIRST ITS 1:30am here lol) and xx is the drive/part your ntfs is on
[07:25] <bonbon> ah, my bad
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> i think thats right..
[07:25] <bonbon> gracias
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> double check
[07:25] <bonbon> is it mnt or mount?
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> the directory would be /mnt/win
[07:26] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko: Ty
[07:26] <Mr_Milenko> then you would type mount /mnt/win
[07:26] <bonbon> oh, btw, I think Milenko was probably their best album, that or riddlebox ;)
[07:26] <Mr_Milenko> and itd mount it whenever you need it
[07:26] <mebaran151> hey
[07:26] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:26] <mebaran151> how do I setup alsa mixing
[07:26] <mebaran151> I am running a Via Envy sndcard
[07:26] <mebaran151> and I want to be able to play a movie in mplayer
[07:26] <bonbon> could you guys Ubotu fstab for me?
[07:27] <bonbon> so i can go read somemore, I'm not familiar w/fstab
[07:27] <mebaran151> ubotu, fstab?
[07:27] <ubotu> fstab is probably /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> nano /etc/fstab
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> in an xterm
[07:27] <bonbon> ah
[07:27] <mebaran151> or sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> or that
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:28] <bonbon> what's the past URL?
[07:28] <mebaran151> or sudo $GODTEXTEDITOR /etc/fstab
[07:28] <bonbon> paste*
[07:28] <jrsims> hi all. is there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?
[07:28] <mebaran151> bonbon, http://rafb.net/paste
[07:28] <bonbon> ty
[07:29] <foxiness> after click on cancel "when the synaptic do apt-get update" after that it fail to get the repos ,what should i do now
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> theres two things wrong with me helping right now...
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> well 3..
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> dialup, 1am, and using windows to get online
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[07:29] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko, now paste the url for the...uh.. paste post?
[07:30] <foxiness> mebaran151, or sudo -e /etc/fstab ;0
[07:30] <Mr_Milenko> uh?
[07:30] <Mr_Milenko> what?
[07:30] <bonbon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MVliG697.html
[07:30] <bonbon> that's what I pasted
[07:30] <bonbon> it's my gedit from fstab
[07:30] <bonbon> but i'm not sure what it means
[07:31] <jrsims> hi all. is there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?
[07:31] <Mr_Milenko> add this line at the bottome of that file
[07:31] <bonbon> jrsims, have you searched the customization area of the ubuntu forums? they have good stuff
[07:31] <Mr_Milenko> add /dev/hdXX  /mnt/win  ntfs  ro  0 0 (change XX to where you windows partition is)
[07:32] <jrsims> bonbon: I haven't. sounds like Gnome doesn't have features to remember window positions.
[07:32] <bonbon> so if windows was on say, /dev/hda4/ that's what i put in for xx?
[07:32] <Mr_Milenko> add that line to your fstab file
[07:32] <bonbon> kky
[07:32] <foxiness> how can i fix broken repos "failed failed ..."
[07:32] <Mr_Milenko> yeah
[07:33] <bonbon> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs ro 00  <-- does that look right?
[07:33] <mebaran151> how do I enable ALS
[07:33] <mebaran151> A mixing
[07:33] <Mr_Milenko> yep
[07:33] <linuxgeek2> !ubuntu
[07:34] <ubotu> ubuntu is probably an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> no
[07:34] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko, ty
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> 0 0
[07:34] <linuxgeek2> !awards
[07:34] <ubotu> [awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[07:34] <bonbon> no, it's not right?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> space between the 0's
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:34] <DrZeus> Hi all.  I just recompiled and added a patch to my kernel.  How do I do to make the system load the modules automaticly in the boot, just for not doing "modprobe" again and again in the console?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> space between the 0's
[07:34] <bonbon> ah
[07:34] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use fbpanel?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> dunno if its needed...
[07:34] <linuxgeek2> u mean cpanel ?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> but i always do it that way
[07:34] <bonbon> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs ro 0 0  ?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:35] <Mr_Milenko> yep
[07:35] <bonbon> ty
[07:35] <n0odl3> no fbpanel
[07:35] <n0odl3> for openbox
[07:35] <Mr_Milenko> type sudo mkdir /mnt/win when your done
[07:35] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko now do i have to run something else to use my windows partition?
[07:35] <bonbon> ah, ok, ty
[07:35] <n0odl3> im trying to build it but i get some missing gtk thing
[07:35] <Mr_Milenko> then when your done type sudo mount /mnt/win
[07:35] <n0odl3> its strange because i HAVE Gtk2.0
[07:35] <DrZeus> How do I set some kernel modules to be loaded in the booting, just for not doing any modprobe in the session
[07:35] <DrZeus> ?
[07:36] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko, it says "mkdir: cannot create directory 'mnt/win': No such file or directory"
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> no
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> its /mnt/win
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> not mnt/win
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:36] <Myrtti> ermmm
[07:36] <bonbon> ah, still learning that every little mark counts lol
[07:37] <bonbon> as usual, most of my linux problems are user-related, hehe
[07:37] <n0odl3> i posted my error in flood
[07:37] <n0odl3> please help
[07:37] <bonbon> do i have to do anything else now?
[07:37] <Mr_Milenko> type sudo mount /mnt/win
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> wait..
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> erm
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> damnit im tired
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> try that
[07:38] <bonbon> it says: "Contents could not be displayed"
[07:38] <bonbon> "You do not have permissions necessary"
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[07:38] <bonbon> to vew the contents of "win"
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> well we know it works..
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> just gotta change the line in fstab for all users
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> hmm
[07:39] <bonbon> i do know permission is a "bad word" lol
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> can someone else help him set the permissions of what hes mounting for all users??
[07:40] <bonbon> plleeeeez :D
[07:40] <bonbon> then I can use something other than windows!
[07:40] <Belutz> try put this in the /etc/fstab --> /dev/hda? /mnt/win ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[07:40] <Belutz> change the '?' into your hdd number
[07:40] <Wolveen> thats just for SATA no?
[07:41] <Myrtti> has anyone tried mathmlviewer?
[07:41] <Myrtti> should it work?
[07:41] <litage> i loaded e1000 (``modprobe e1000'') successfully, and then brought eth0 down and up. however, pinging anywhere still says host unreachable. any suggestions?
[07:41] <Myrtti> I searched the forum and there is nothing about it
[07:42] <crimsun> litage: how did you bring it up, with ifconfig or ifup?
[07:42] <bonbon> ok, trying it now
[07:42] <litage> crimsun: ``ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0``
[07:42] <bonbon> belutz, add that in addition to the line milenko gave me, or replace it?
[07:43] <crimsun> litage: is the default route correct?
[07:43] <Belutz> bonbon, replace it
[07:43] <litage> crimsun: where do you set the default route?
[07:43] <crimsun> litage: are you using dhcp or static? if dhcp, that's set for you by the dhcp lease
[07:44] <bonbon> Beluts, just add it anywhere?
[07:44] <Belutz> bonbon, yup, better to put it at the end of the file
[07:45] <litage> crimsun: static
[07:45] <jath_jath> hello
[07:45] <bonbon> Belutz, ok, now it says already mounted Is that right?
[07:46] <Belutz> bonbon, unmount it first, sudo umount /mnt/win
[07:46] <crimsun> litage: have you set your default gw then?
[07:46] <bonbon> kk
[07:46] <jath_jath> elo
[07:46] <jath_jath> df
[07:46] <jath_jath> df
[07:46] <crimsun> litage: sudo route add default gw <some ip>
[07:46] <jath_jath> r
[07:46] <jath_jath> g
[07:46] <Belutz> bonbon, then mount it again, sudo mount -a
[07:46] <crimsun> litage: (this should be set in /etc/network/interfaces)
[07:46] <jath_jath> ?
[07:46] <SirWraith> i'm trying to install on my powerbook and it can't find the cd-rom drive, can anyone help?
[07:46] <jath_jath> pwede sli
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehehe
[07:47] <jath_jath> ge
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehe
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehe
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehehee
[07:47] <jath_jath> he
[07:47] <Belutz> !ops
[07:47] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[07:47] <jath_jath> e
[07:47] <[Chameleon] > SirWraith: are you holding "C" while booting the laptop?
[07:47] <bonbon> yaaaaaay!
[07:47] <linuxgeek2> !help
[07:47] <bonbon> we did it
[07:47] <SirWraith> yeah, i'm gone with that, i'm in the ubuntu installer
[07:47] <jath_jath> olright
[07:47] <jath_jath> ass
[07:47] <jath_jath> as
[07:47] <jath_jath> as
[07:47] <jath_jath> as
[07:47] <bonbon> can you explain what that line we typed in meant, belutz?
[07:47] <jath_jath> s
[07:47] <SirWraith> i chose the language and kayboard layout
[07:47] <jath_jath> asa
[07:47] <Belutz> oh, i didn't know crimsun is an op, sorry ops :)
[07:47] <jath_jath> sa
[07:48] <linuxgeek2> !fool
[07:48] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Wish i knew
[07:48] <SirWraith> and now it needs to detect and mount the cd-rom drive, and it can't find it
[07:48] <Belutz> bonbon, sudo umount /mnt/win <-- it unmount the ntfs partition
[07:48] <bonbon> can i run gparted from inside unbutu?
[07:48] <bonbon> yeah, i mean the line in the fstab
[07:48] <Belutz> bonbon, sudo mount -a <--- remount all partition in /etc/fstab
[07:48] <bonbon> Belutz, the line we put in fstab
[07:48] <bonbon> what does it mean?
[07:48] <Belutz> oh
[07:49] <bonbon> if too complicated, is ok
[07:50] <bonbon> now, how do i do it so I can see my linux folder in windows? heehee
[07:50] <Belutz> bonbon, it's not too complicated, but my english is not that good, so i recommend you to read it yourself by typing man mount
[07:50] <vvlaw> vv@weiwei:/usr/local/djgame2$ sudo ./startdjg
[07:50] <vvlaw> ./Hall: error while loading shared libraries: libQt3Support.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:50] <vvlaw> anybody know that what's wrong?
[07:51] <Belutz> it's about file permission and directory permission
[07:51] <DrZeus> How is it done for making some kernel modules to be loaded during boot?
[07:51] <SirWraith> the problem is this, i'm in the ubuntu installer and it doesn't detect the cd-rom drive
[07:51] <SirWraith> now i can choose a module to load and it gives me the option of /dev/?????, and i don't know what to do from here
[07:51] <vvlaw> anybody can help me now?
[07:51] <litage> crimsun: i'm on the same switch as this machine that's causing trouble, so i don't need a gateway specified. however, i gave it the proper gateway and the problem persisted
[07:51] <crimsun> DrZeus: you can place them in /etc/modules
[07:51] <bonbon> Belutz, so far your english has been quite good, what is your native tongue?
[07:52] <DrZeus> crimsun, just the name of the modules?  And that will avoid the need of doing "modprobe" during session right?
[07:52] <crimsun> litage: what's the output from route -n ? Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:52] <crimsun> DrZeus: correct
[07:53] <DrZeus> crimsun, thnx I really appreciate it
[07:54] <nalioth> cafuego_: has an oddness in part of 'is 'ed?
[07:55] <DrZeus> crimsun, will test if they are fine loaded.  brb
[07:56] <cafuego_> nalioth: Well, I get "Error: Filesystem has incompatible feature enabled" on a bog-standard ext2 fs.
[07:56] <cafuego_> I don't suppose there's anyway to make parted tell me WHICH feature?
[07:56] <nalioth> cafuego_: weird
[07:57] <cronik> anyone knows how i can install smf on my computer
[07:57] <cronik> i want to turn it into a mini server
[07:59] <SirWraith> so i haven't used linux much except for live CDs, and i'm pretty much newish to unix, would ubuntu be best to experiment with, or should i go with debian or YDL?
[07:59] <bonbon> is there a terminal command that will let me move a file from my desktop to ~/.Icons?
[07:59] <mebaran151> SirWraith, Ubuntu is a nice clean desktop
[08:00] <cronik> anyone knows how i can install smf on my computer
[08:00] <nalioth> cafuego_: theyyyy'rrrree back
[08:00] <SirWraith> but now that these powerbooks all come with dual-layer DVD, i can only assume this is the problem that the install can't detect the CD drive
[08:00] <nybble> graig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=ALSA
[08:00] <SirWraith> so should i try something like debian, until i get the hang of it better
[08:00] <bonbon> Could someone point me in the right direction for installing an ICON set?
[08:00] <SirWraith> then just wipe that partition and go with ubuntu
[08:00] <cafuego_> nalioth: whut? whut?
[08:01] <cafuego_> !test
[08:01] <ubotu> Crashed.
[08:01] <litage> crimsun: the machine's in a different room, but here' most of the output:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/FN7wYr45.html
[08:01] <nalioth> cafuego_: dont you see them? our friends have returned
[08:01] <robotgeek> bonbon: System -> Preferences -> Theme Drag and Drop
[08:01] <cronik> im trying to host a mini site
[08:01] <cafuego_> Oh, the botnet moron
[08:01] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: I have the same problem with DVD detection - I got DEbian Sarge 3.1r0a - no DVD detect. Problems with modprobe. So I'm giving hte Ubuntu a shot myself
[08:01] <cronik> can anyone tell me how i can install a simple machine forum?
[08:01] <crimsun> litage: and you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> just fine, correct?
[08:02] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: have you been able to get the ubuntu installer to detect the drive so it can install?
[08:02] <CamiloSan> cronik: dude, you've asked the same question at least three times
[08:02] <litage> crimsun: no, pinging <IP_ADDRESS> says host unreachable
[08:02] <bonbon> one problem w/drag and drop
[08:02] <cronik> sowwy
[08:02] <robotgeek> bonbon: what?
[08:02] <bonbon> it's just an icon set, not a theme
[08:02] <cronik> i need to know
[08:02] <crimsun> litage: what is eth0's ip?
[08:02] <robotgeek> bonbon: no problem, it would work
[08:02] <bonbon> so it says "invalid file time"
[08:02] <litage> crimsun: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:02] <bonbon> type*
[08:02] <bonbon> invalid file type
[08:02] <GURT> why not install phpbb, its a lot cleaner looking and is simle to install
[08:03] <crimsun> litage: interesting. Anything in dmesg
[08:03] <bonbon> robotgeek: it says, "Invalid File format
[08:03] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: nah, I'm looking up info on modprobe - perhaps I can drop to shell and play with the parameters to get the drive to recognize. My problem is with Debian Sarge 3.1r0a - I'm in the middle of downloadin ghte Ubuntu CD image
[08:03] <robotgeek> bonbon: weird, that works for me. gimme a moment, let me look up the manual way
[08:03] <cronik> the pro is that i don"t know whe i can put the file so apache can read them
[08:03] <cronik> where*
[08:03] <mebaran151> cronik, probs /var/www
[08:03] <robotgeek> bonbon: extract the icon set into ~/.icons/
[08:03] <linuxgeek2> ubuto tell linuxgeek2 about fonts
[08:03] <cronik> thanx
[08:04] <linuxgeek2> ubuto tell linuxgeek2 fonts
[08:04] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: I suggest if you're having problems with the install to do the same. Drop to a shell and see if you can mount the CD/DVD somehow
[08:04] <bonbon> ok, is this the line:
[08:04] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: well i have no idea how to do that for now, and i just partitioned the drive to give me 8GB of linux to play with, should i try a diff distro and come back when ubuntu supports it, hopefully in the next version
[08:04] <DrZeus> crimsun: the modules loaded fine.  Thanks man; God bless you
[08:04] <linuxgeek2> ubotu, tell linuxgeek2 about fonts
[08:04] <bonbon> robotgeek:  cd ~/.themes && tar xzf /Tux-n-Tosh.tar.b2.gz
[08:04] <morzel> hi
[08:04] <Myrtti> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88344
[08:04] <Myrtti> :-/
[08:05] <nybble> !ubotu tell linuxgeek2 2about fonts
[08:05] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: well, that's an idea but you may run into the same problem with other distros - some drives are simply a bitch to get going.
[08:05] <morzel> how can I install theme for ubuntu?
[08:05] <bonbon> i mean tar.bz2
[08:05] <cronik> i can"t copy anything in that file
[08:05] <linuxgeek2> haha nybble
[08:05] <cronik> how can i copy something in the file
[08:05] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: I personally think I have one of those bitchy drives ;)
[08:05] <nybble> lol
[08:05] <nybble> !ubotu tell linuxgeek2 about fonts
[08:05] <Myrtti> tar xjf
[08:05] <robotgeek> bonbon: then use tar -jxf
[08:05] <bonbon> kk
[08:05] <Orborde> What's the command that you use to make install something AND get it registered as a deb package?
[08:05] <morzel> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=18631 i have downloaded this file
[08:05] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: do you know of any distros besides gentoo that may support the drive?
[08:05] <linuxgeek2> ubotu, tell morzel about themes
[08:05] <nybble> lol
[08:05] <morzel> k
[08:05] <cronik> mebaran
[08:06] <linuxgeek2> ubotu, tell morzel about installing themes
[08:06] <robotgeek> Orborde: from source, checkinstall
[08:06] <cronik> how can i copy file in that folder
[08:06] <aftertaf> when using ssh, do you use the -D option to specify a different server port on the destination ssh server?
[08:06] <Orborde> robotgeek: Thanks
[08:06] <cafuego_> aftertaf -p
[08:07] <cronik> can anyone tell me how i can copy files to my apach folder
[08:07] <cronik> ?
[08:07] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: well, you can simply shoot it with a shotgun. Try RedHat Fedora, Slackware - anything. I personally don't know. My drive is a NEC ND-2510A. Maybe you could flash the firmware or something to make it play nice with the Kernel
[08:08] <bonbon> could someone shoot me that paste link again?
[08:08] <bonbon> i get a funny error when i try to install
[08:08] <bonbon> !ubotu Paste
[08:08] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:08] <bonbon> ahha!
[08:08] <bonbon> #flood
[08:08] <robotgeek> cronik: i woul suggest that you read the apache configuration files, though apache by default is in /var/www/
[08:08] <Cindy> where to find package for this --> gdm-<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1??
[08:08] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: ha, i can try fedora. if it doesn't work, i'll make my friend do it for me until i know enough to try that myself. Thanks
[08:08] <Myrtti> bonbon: /j #flood
[08:08] <bonbon> ty
[08:08] <bonbon> Ok, i just posted my error in #flood
[08:09] <CamiloSan> happy hackin, SirWraith
[08:09] <SirWraith> to you as well
[08:09] <bonbon> could someone take a peek at it for me?
[08:09] <bonbon> i think i'm using the wrong commands
[08:09] <bonbon> they are the ones that came from art.gnome.org
[08:10] <bonbon> or do i need to post it again?
[08:10] <bonbon> don't wanna flood the flood, heh
[08:10] <Juhaz> just put it in the pastebin. it'll stay there for quite a while, no re-re-reflooding :)
[08:10] <CamiloSan> for code, use http://pastebin.com/
[08:10] <bonbon> kay
[08:11] <CamiloSan> ditto Juhaz
[08:11] <aftertaf> thx cafuego_ :) ill try that
[08:12] <bonbon> ok, here is link:
[08:12] <bonbon> http://pastebin.com/424077
[08:12] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to work fbpanel?
[08:12] <bonbon> i think i need to move the tar file from it's location (desktop) to hte icons folder
[08:12] <bonbon> i just dunno how to get there
[08:12] <aftertaf> ssh -p 8090<EMAIL_ADDRESS><- is that right syntax
[08:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bonbon about cli
[08:13] <aftertaf> trying to force it via the http proxy
[08:13] <Juhaz> bonbon, "tar jxf ~/Desktop/ICON-Tux-n-Tosh.0.1.tar.bz2"
[08:13] <iceman> Anyone know how to install active x control for mozilla
[08:14] <bonbon> ty nihaloth :)
[08:14] <litage> crimsun: sorry for the delay. had to write it down
[08:14] <Juhaz> bonbon, alternatively, you shouldn't need to play around with cli for that, you can drag and drop the tarball from desktop to gnome-theme-manager
[08:14] <bonbon> ok, i tried that, says improper file format
[08:15] <Juhaz> might be a corrupted file
[08:15] <bonbon> nvm, i'm a dumbass
[08:15] <bonbon> i was dragging and dropping the extracted folder
[08:15] <bonbon> not the actual tar
[08:15] <bonbon> tar works
[08:16] <bonbon> again, user error, the source of my troubles, heh
[08:16] <bonbon> didn't rt enough fm tonight
[08:17] <DrZeus> Im out fellas; God bless you all.  C ya
[08:20] <litage> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kTs1IC60.html
[08:21] <Mr_Milenko> +r isnt set
[08:21] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:21] <Mr_Milenko> +cfnPt
[08:21] <nalioth> rob^: we're not +r
[08:22] <fita> Weird, no one's asking anything.
[08:22] <rob^> maybe you need to
[08:22] <nalioth> rob^: most of these joins/parts are actual users
[08:22] <rob^> ouch
[08:22] <rob^> whats with the odd names
[08:22] <aeon17x> Can you hear me now?
[08:22] <rob^> looks like someone just mashed the keyboard
[08:23] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:23] <aeon17x> I liek their names though.
[08:24] <rob^> what the heck is a "aqovaaa"
[08:24] <cevizoglu> sounds like a kind of bottled water
[08:24] <rob^> heh
[08:24] <Myrtti> I liek mil --- *smack*
[08:24] <rob^> ?
[08:25] <nalioth> rob^: you've heard of the million monkeys typing a million years?
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> whatd you mack me for?
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> smack
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> **
[08:25] <Myrtti> I smacked myself
[08:25] <rob^> nalioth, I've seen a million monkeys all joining the one chan
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> [02:31]  <Myrtti> I liek mil --- *smack*
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> usually people call me mil.. sorry
[08:25] <aeon17x> !botsnacks
[08:25] <ubotu> :)
[08:25] <aeon17x> Hey, good thing ubotu's alive and kicking.
[08:25] <nalioth> rob^: the point is: some of those randome 9character nicks will be 'cool'
[08:26] <Myrtti> "I liek milk"
[08:26] <rob^> yeah
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know of a solid tablet/pda x86
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[08:27] <keyboardMash> hmm why did I just get the ban list?
[08:27] <Alex> Anyone know how I can add entries to grub.. during boot? I appear to have installed grub and forgotten to add anything other than my Windows installation o_O
[08:27] <cafuego_> keyboardMash: wallops enabled?
[08:27] <Alex> keyboardMash: you typed /bans or /mode +b?
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> keyboardMash you clicked on the window text area
[08:27] <keyboardMash> all I did was change my nick :)
[08:28] <nalioth> keyboardMash: um, +r ?
[08:29] <keyboardMash> +Eiw
[08:29] <litage> does a network driver exist for the 82801GR chipset that drives the NIC that's on the Intel D945GNT motherboard?
[08:30] <keyboardMash> BROKEN_LADDER, don't take my ctcp version at face value
[08:31] <cafuego_> filthy ctcpliar
[08:31] <Madeye> guys, I have P4 2.6/1gb of ram, 2.6.12-9-386 , Do you think It's better to install linux-686 kernel ?
[08:32] <crimsun> sure.
[08:32] <Madeye> crimsun, why? Where can i read about this ?
[08:32] <nalioth> Madeye: yes, you'll benefit
[08:33] <aftertaf> Madeye: its optimised for your processor architecture
[08:33] <HiddenFly> Is there any way I could disable trash, like in Windows, so that however one deletes a file it will never go to trash?
[08:34] <aftertaf> HiddenFly: use the rm command ;)
[08:34] <holycow> HiddenFly, i don't know the answer, but i'm curious, where would the file go?
[08:34] <aftertaf> holycow: direct to dev/null :)
[08:35] <HiddenFly> holycow: it would get deleted.
[08:35] <Madeye> nalioth, aftertaf , yes I'm apting it now, but I would like to read more about this, I couldn't find anything explaining what kind of optimization it has
[08:35] <nalioth> Madeye: the 686 kernel mostly addresses ram over 768mb
[08:35] <aftertaf> Madeye: run make menuconfig and read what the kernel tool says..... might help
[08:35] <HiddenFly> I found only a setting that gives one an alternative way to delete a file so that it goes there, but it won't disable it.
[08:35] <aftertaf> or asl nalioth, our resident linux encyclopedia :)
[08:36] <HiddenFly> *so that it doesn't go
[08:36] <Madeye> aftertaf,  i don't have menuconfig
[08:36] <aftertaf> but you have nalioth :)
[08:42] <A-z-i-z> hello... ubuntu didn't detect my PCMCIA controller... when i type lspci, i get "0000:01:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc: Unknown device 1412 (rev 10)"... I used another distribution and it found it as "0000:01:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB-712/4 Cardbus Controller (rev 10)". what can i do to get my PCMCIA controller enabled on ubuntu ?
[08:46] <ulaas> oh!! i cannot se "no backports for breezy" comment on the topic. This means there is?
[08:46] <Belutz> ulaas, yes
[08:47] <manuvcube> here we are: how fo i resize/merge hfs+ partitions without loosing data on other partitions?
[08:47] <nalioth> manuvcube: use parted
[08:47] <tjolli> wow that nickserv stuff really is a piece of crap for me who only pops in once in a blue moon
[08:48] <manuvcube> nalioth: thx
[08:48] <nalioth> manuvcube: shrink only for hfs+
[08:48] <manuvcube> nalioth: shrink only, hmmm. Bad. Need to delete/merge two smaller parts into one bigger. Will see the man first!
[08:49] <nalioth> manuvcube: shrink your partition, make a new partition, mount new partition
[08:49] <manuvcube> nalioth: ok
[08:50] <ulaas> Belutz, oh! tell me tell me tell me
[08:51] <nuck> spambot spambot trap!
[08:51] <tjolli> anyway, does anyone know why postfix insists on sending all mail for root to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/etc/aliases looks fine to me... what else can I do, besides dpkg-reconfigure postfix?
[08:57] <cafuego_> tjolli: Check .fiorward files, check /etc/mailname, check /etc/postfix/main.cf; check that a smarthost isn't set.
[08:57] <ulaas> Belutz, well there is backports but nothing inside right? :)
[08:58] <nalioth> ulaas: backports do not exist yet
[08:59] <saik0> is there a way to disable the ctrl+alt+Fx hotkeys to bring up different terminals?
[08:59] <Belutz> ulaas, sorry i was disconnected
[09:00] <limguohong91> Hi :), How do i run dcr file on my Firefox?
[09:00] <thoreauputic> saik0: you can comment out the extra tty s in /etc/inittab
[09:00] <ulaas> nalioth, well the repo exists. but you are also true that it does not really exist without packages :)
[09:01] <nalioth> ulaas: you are not getting errors? when you update apt-get?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> saik0: you need to keep 1  at least - and 7.8 etc
[09:02] <ulaas> nalioth, no! :)
[09:02] <ulaas> nalioth, i also checked the repo with browser. it is there
[09:02] <saik0> thoreauputic I dont need to get rid of the ttys altogether really. just hide them from users of a browser kiosk
[09:03] <limguohong91> How do i run .dcr file on firefox, anyone :p?
[09:03] <nalioth> limguohong91: you dont
[09:03] <limguohong91> nalioth: so i can't?
[09:03] <nalioth> limguohong91: that is a shockwave type file, correct?
[09:03] <bonbon> anybody know the command to run winecfg?
[09:04] <limguohong91> Nope.
[09:04] <limguohong91> I don't think so, nalioth
[09:04] <thoreauputic> saik0: ah well getting rid of 2,3,4,5,6 is pretty easy - and I guess 1 can go as well if you are only running X, although you'd need to be able to ssh in if something goes wrong
[09:04] <[Jonne] > hi, i have a question, I posted it on ubuntuforums, but nobody answers it. Can someone look at it and give an answer? It should be easy if you know GNOME a little
[09:04] <[Jonne] > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83228
[09:04] <limguohong91> nalioth: I know sockwave type file are onlt swf
[09:05] <nalioth> limguohong91: only flash is supported on x86 boxes, shockwave is not
[09:05] <saik0> thoreauputic, they are diskless and have a readonly nfs root. I ssh into the server and chroot into it =)
[09:05] <limguohong91> nalioth: but i can run swf file o.O (shockwave file)
[09:06] <tjolli> cafuego_, thanks, but there are no .forward files.. looking at the postfix faq, seems like I have to set virtual_alias_maps. but it is already set to $virtual_maps, which does not exist... why would ubuntu do that?
[09:06] <luckyaba> is there a way to disable the screensaver via command line?
[09:06] <Orborde> What's the Ubuntu dev channel?
[09:06] <nalioth> Orborde: -devel
[09:07] <Orborde> Thanks
[09:08] <ogami1972> hello
[09:08] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : are you saying you can't tell nautilus to open the file with scite? Did you change the "properties" tab after right clicking the file type?
[09:08] <ogami1972> is it possible to rebuild fstab without rebooting?
[09:08] <thoreauputic> ogami1972: yes
[09:08] <mustard5> ogami1972, yes
[09:09] <Orborde> I was going to suggest that the default sshd settings not permit root login at all. Where would I file this suggestion? Should I file a bug or what?
[09:09] <[Jonne] > it will open scite, but the file isn't opened
[09:09] <ogami1972> i thought so- i tried "sudo rebuild fstab" but, no... i've been looking for a script...
[09:09] <[Jonne] > scite gets the wrong path
[09:09] <topyli> Orborde: no need, root logins are disabled in any case :)
[09:10] <bonbon> I'm guessing MS doesn't provide instructions on how to expand an NTFS partition using gparted?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: xscreensaver-command -throttle  or xscreensaver-command -someotherthing in the man page for xscreensaver-command  (or just killall xscreensaver)
[09:10] <topyli> Orborde: if you want to suggest changes, do it in bugzilla
[09:10] <[Jonne] > it gets /home/jonne/file:/home/jonne/file.txt, instead of just file:/home/jonne/file.txt
[09:10] <aftertaf> bonbon: if ic can do it, you'll first need to unmount it
[09:10] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : if you can wait a few minutes I'll see if I can reproduce your problem here
[09:10] <[Jonne] > at least that's what i see in the title bar of scite
[09:11] <[Jonne] > ok
[09:11] <[Jonne] > but it's probably a conf file somewhere that i need to edit
[09:11] <[Jonne] > i want to know which one
[09:11] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : be patient - I'm on dialup and it will take about 8-10 minutes to install ;)
[09:12] <thoreauputic> oh - actually less than that
[09:13] <penguin_roar> Orborde: i couldnt agree more about sshd
[09:13] <BuFF> what's the meaning for "~/" ?
[09:13] <penguin_roar> BuFF: home
[09:14] <nalioth> BuFF: it's a quick string to mean /home/BuFF/
[09:14] <[Jonne] > it works ok in konqueror, btw
[09:14] <[Jonne] > seems to be a nautilus thing
[09:14] <penguin_roar> BuFF: ~ = home/username
[09:14] <BuFF> thanks
[09:14] <Madeye> aftertaf i have installed 686 kernel, and now Xorg wont start, complaining No monitor
[09:14] <Madeye> aftertaf  how to force it to recognize the monitor
[09:14] <luckyaba> im trying to copy over some files to another computer but nautilus is saying it can't display contents of the folder?
[09:14] <aftertaf> Madeye: what gfx card?
[09:14] <aftertaf> nvidia?
[09:14] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : works perfectly here
[09:15] <bonbon> can you run gparted from within ubuntu?
[09:15] <Madeye> aftertaf  nvidia
[09:15] <mustard5> Madeye, you probably need the restricted module for your kernel installed?
[09:15] <penguin_roar> bonbon: as long as the partitions you want to change arent mounted
[09:15] <[Jonne] > and you know where those settings are stored (open with, and stuff?)
[09:15] <Madeye> mustard5 nvidia was working fine with the old kernel.
[09:15] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : I just right clicked a .txt file , went to "properties", added scite to "open with" and checked it as preference
[09:15] <aftertaf> Madeye: did you use the ubuntu nvidia drivers or the nvidia website ones?
[09:15] <[Jonne] > they're a mess anyway, so i'd need to fix that
[09:16] <Madeye> aftertaf  nvidia repos drivers
[09:16] <mustard5> Madeye, the 686 has a seperate restricted module for itself
[09:16] <holycow> anyone run scribus on a gnome desktop?  i need to give scribus a decent gnome friendly theme ... how is that done for kde once again?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : in nautilus I mean :)
[09:16] <ogami1972> so... how do i rebuild fstab without rebooting?
[09:16] <aftertaf> mustard5: right, but it should have installed that package too.... :/
[09:16] <mustard5> Madeye, I'll find it in synaptic for you
[09:16] <mustard5> afteraf, it doesnt though
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ogami1972: just edit it, and check with mount -a if you are paranoid
[09:17] <Madeye> mustard5 thanks,
[09:17] <mustard5> afteraf, I've been through this myself
[09:17] <aftertaf> ok mustard5 :) hehe
[09:17] <tjolli> anyone else have problems with postfix sending root@localhost mail to root@isp on a "internet site with smarthost"?
[09:17] <bonbon> if i unmount a drive will i lose information?
[09:17] <mustard5> Madeye, I'm just apt-get updating on dialup..soo..a little wait :D
[09:17] <bonbon> like data?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> tjolli: I haven't had that problem but I've heard of it happening
[09:18] <Madeye> mustard5 yeah sure take your time, bitchx sucks btw :-)
[09:18] <bonbon> anyone know?
[09:18] <mustard5> hehe
[09:18] <MaCinTof> hi
[09:18] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : sorted?
[09:18] <Orborde> Hey, is there anyone that hasn't set their root password that can help me?
[09:18] <Orborde> Hey, is there anyone that hasn't set their root password that can help me?
[09:18] <mustard5> Madeye, 8 minutes to go ;)
[09:18] <[Jonne] > oh, it works oh if i do 'open with', and navigate to the scite binary, instead of the one listed in the box
[09:18] <[Jonne] > *ok
[09:18] <thoreauputic> Orborde: no need to repeat
[09:18] <theturtl> yeah there is,
[09:19] <theturtl> he said it twice, i still don't understand
[09:19] <Orborde> thoreauputic: Sorry, it looked like it had jetted offscreen :)
[09:19] <Madeye> mustard5 okay :-)
[09:19] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : no, go to the "properties"'inthe right click menu
[09:19] <Orborde> theturtl: You haven't set a root password?
[09:19] <Madeye> mustard5  how to reconfigure my xorg just a try maybe it will work
[09:19] <luckyaba> im getting this error Nautilus cannot display "/mnt/curt".
[09:19] <mustard5> Madeye, tis ok I got it
[09:19] <[Jonne] > well, i meant that one ;)
[09:19] <Madeye> i just cant get the full naem of xorg installation
[09:19] <mustard5> Madeye, linux-restricted-modules-686
[09:20] <Madeye> mustard5  okay
[09:20] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : in the "properties" select "open with" and set it to scite
[09:20] <mustard5> Madeye, I didn an apt-cache search
[09:20] <[Jonne] > it's sorted, tnx
[09:20] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : to make it the default you tick the button for it
[09:20] <thoreauputic> OK
[09:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the windows called that's on "pocket pc"?
[09:21] <aftertaf> CE
[09:21] <Madeye> mustard5 i'm apting it, What next ?
[09:21] <mustard5> Madeye, whats your kernel version?
[09:21] <mustard5> Madeye, uname -r
[09:22] <Madeye> err exec -o doesnt work in bitchx lol
[09:22] <Madeye> mustard5  it's <IP_ADDRESS>-686
[09:22] <Madeye> Linux madi 2.6.12-9-686 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:25:32 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:22] <Madeye> yeah! it works
[09:22] <mustard5> Madeye, just confirm you have the right kernel version for me, but you should just be able to reboot if your xorg.conf is set up with sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:23] <mustard5> Madeye, all good?
[09:23] <Madeye> mustard5  no i mean the exec -o :-) still apting restricted modules.
[09:23] <mustard5> k
[09:23] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: does the directorY /mnt/curt  exist?
[09:23] <Madeye> mustard5  i'm on 128
[09:23] <mustard5> Madeye, the kernel version is good to
[09:23] <bonbon> ubotu mount partitions
[09:24] <ubotu> No idea, bonbon
[09:24] <bonbon> damn
[09:24] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[09:24] <ubotu> methinks mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> bonbon: is that what you needed?
[09:24] <bonbon> well, i made another partition
[09:24] <bonbon> not for windows
[09:24] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: yeah.. i browse it for a while then it starts showing that error
[09:24] <dducko> What are you needing to do bonbon ?
[09:25] <bonbon> thoreauputic, I want to mount this seperate partition/drive to linux and windows, it's FAT 32, primary
[09:25] <bonbon> dev/hda4
[09:25] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: so you can access it but it disappears? Or are you trying to enter a subdirectory
[09:25] <dducko> !mount
[09:25] <bonbon> /dev/hda4
[09:25] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[09:25] <bonbon> !windowsdrives
[09:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:26] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: when i access it i  try and go into a subdirectory and then it takes forever when it comes up i cant go back to the parent directory
[09:26] <dducko> That should tell you how to set it up for linux,  with windows should auto detect
[09:26] <bonbon> i must be a masochist, I'm actually enjoying this stuff
[09:26] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: gives me the error i just posted
[09:26] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: so the problem is the subdirs
[09:26] <dducko> Oh Its lots of fun actually
[09:26] <dducko> Same reason I like working on computer
[09:26] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: and what sort of filesysytem is this mount point?
[09:27] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: i velieve ext3
[09:27] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: and is it a samba share or an nfs mount point?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> or jsut a partition, or another drive?
[09:28] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: samba
[09:28] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: I suspected - it's likely a samba config issue then
[09:28] <mustard5> Madeye, just to check again..your not using a nvidia-legacy card?  Its a fairly new vid card?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: I don't use samba - maybe someone else can troubleshoot
[09:29] <bonbon> does this look like the right mount command?
[09:29] <bonbon> thoreauputic, sudo mount /dev/hda4/ fat32 /media/shares
[09:29] <Madeye> mustard5 it's pretty old 64mb nvidia,
[09:29] <hussam> how do I defrag my linux hard disk?
[09:29] <thoreauputic> bonbon: no
[09:29] <aftertaf> Madeye: gf4 ? gf2?
[09:29] <Madeye> mustard5  I have just apted restricted modules, what next? just reboot ?
[09:29] <mustard5> Madeye, it worked on the old kernel I take it without nvidia-legacy?
[09:29] <aftertaf> Madeye: no need to......
[09:29] <Madeye> aftertaf  to be honest, I don't know lol but mostly 2
[09:29] <thoreauputic> bonbon:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/shares
[09:29] <mustard5> Madeye, you need to restart X I think
[09:30] <mustard5> Madeye, reboot is a crude method of restarting X of course :D
[09:30] <bonbon> ty
[09:30] <Madeye> mustard5 aftertaf  i'm in! lemme run xchat one sec
[09:30] <Madeye> exit
[09:30] <Madeye> ops
[09:30] <mustard5> Madeye, if it bombs out I have another step to try :)
[09:30] <mustard5> Madeye, ah cool
[09:30] <aftertaf> lol cool :)
[09:31] <bonbon> ok, getting on to windows, brb
[09:31] <mustard5> afteraf, I took me ages to work this problem out when I stared changing kernels :)
[09:31] <luckyaba> is there a way to see if i am connected to my network at 100 or 1000?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> luckyaba:  mii-tool
[09:32] <Habbie> luckyaba: ethtool I think
[09:32] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: that might not be right - hang on
[09:32] <aftertaf> mustard5: hmm depends on luck of draw i suppose...
[09:32] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: yes, looks like that's it
[09:32] <aftertaf> mustard5: i installed linux-k7 kernel and it dragged all it needed, no pbs
[09:33] <luckyaba> habbie: where it says speed .. is that what i am connected at?
[09:33] <mustard5> afteraf, you lucky bugger :)
[09:33] <mustard5> hehe
[09:33] <Habbie> luckyaba: paste it
[09:33] <Habbie> luckyaba: if it's just one line :)
[09:34] <mustard5> aftertaf, it had me stumped for days
[09:34] <luckyaba> habbie: Speed: 1000Mb/s
[09:34] <Habbie> luckyaba: sounds about right :)
[09:34] <thoreauputic> ah, ethtool eth0  - nice, I learnt a new command :)
[09:34] <luckyaba> habbie: means im connected to the network at a very high speed right?
[09:35] <Habbie> luckyaba: yes :)
[09:35] <luckyaba> lol
[09:35] <Habbie> thoreaupu: ethtool is basically the new mii-tool :)
[09:35] <thoreauputic> Habbie: and much easier to use it seems :)
[09:35] <luckyaba> habbie: so why is it taking over 7 hours to copy 70 gigs?
[09:35] <Habbie> luckyaba: don't know, tell us more about your copying method
[09:36] <aftertaf> 70 gigs is a lot of wad....
[09:36] <luckyaba> habbie: opened the computer on the network browser and pasted it to the computer
[09:36] <Habbie> luckyaba: is the other computer on 1000mbit too?
[09:36] <aftertaf> luckyaba: source pc on 10mbit NIC?
[09:36] <luckyaba> habbie: yeah
[09:36] <nalioth> luckyaba: your connection capacity is far from your actual throughput
[09:36] <aftertaf> true :)
[09:37] <Habbie> you're doing about 3 mbits
[09:37] <aftertaf> 100mb gets you about 3
[09:37] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: doing it graphically introduces some overhead...
[09:37] <nalioth> luckyaba: if you dont have gigabit devices all the way through, you'll only see 10/100 capabilities
[09:37] <Habbie> that's usually what I get for all kinds of copying activity too
[09:37] <Habbie> even though networks may be 100 or 1000
[09:37] <nalioth> luckyaba: also if you have ANY 10/100 devices plugged into your network, it may slow it down
[09:37] <Habbie> luckyaba: you might be able to speed it up by breaking the copy in two halves and doing those at the same time..
[09:37] <luckyaba> so it should take like 7 hours to copy 70 gogs?
[09:37] <luckyaba> gigs?
[09:37] <Habbie> luckyaba: but first, check CPU and I/O load on both machines
[09:38] <luckyaba> k 1 sec
[09:38] <Habbie> (while copying :)
[09:38] <nalioth> luckyaba: yes that sounds about right
[09:39] <Habbie> luckyaba: I must add that last week between two fast machines I did much much more than those 3 mbits
[09:39] <luckyaba> nalioth: on a gigabit lan?
[09:39] <nalioth> luckyaba: if you are actually running at maximum capacity, no
[09:40] <luckyaba> nalioth: we just got our fileserver setup and i have alot of stuff i want to move to the server... i figured since we were setting up the gbit lan it would copy much faster
[09:41] <Madeye> hey! aftertaf mustard5  :-) I'm in now
[09:41] <mustard5> Madeye, well done :)
[09:41] <aftertaf> congrats to Madeye
[09:41] <Madeye> mustard5, aftertaf  Thank you guys :-)
[09:41] <nalioth> luckyaba: sleep on it
[09:42] <action09> hi all , i have problem maybe with X ( after nvidia prprietary drivers installed, can't log out correctly freeze ) and now i have some apps that shutdown by themselves (firefox/pan).. how can i do a debug or submit a bugreport ? is it first a good idea ?
[09:42] <luckyaba> nalioth: friggin gigabit hype got me.. haha
[09:42] <luckyaba> thanks for the info everyone
[09:42] <hussam> how do I defrag a Linux harddisk?
[09:42] <luckyaba> learnt a thang or two
[09:43] <mustard5> action09, what driver version?
[09:43] <action09> last
[09:43] <aftertaf> action09: nvidia website drivers?
[09:43] <action09> hussam you don't have to :)
[09:43] <thoreauputic> hussam: you don't, normally
[09:43] <action09> aftertaf  yes :)
[09:43] <nalioth> hussam: there is no fragmentation on linux
[09:43] <aftertaf> hussam: it does it itself.
[09:43] <Habbie> nalioth: that's not true ;)
[09:43] <thoreauputic> well, there is but it's negligible
[09:43] <action09> yes
[09:43] <aftertaf> action09: bugreport to nvidia website and/or remove drivers, put ubuntu ones instead.
[09:43] <action09> linux FS rocks :)
[09:43] <robotgeek> hmm, there we go again about fragmentation :)
[09:43] <nalioth> hussam: there is virtually no fragmentation on linux
[09:43] <aftertaf> action09: i take it you want latest versions for a reason ;)
[09:43] <nalioth> Habbie: happy?
[09:44] <agro1986> help, after installing both linux-686 and nvidia-glx-legacy suddenly the command "ls" is colorless! How to restore so that "ls" is colorful again??? (for example blue for directories)
[09:44] <Habbie> nalioth: hehe, yes :)
[09:44] <hussam> nalioth: there is defragmentation. the last time I cheked the disk at boot, it was 5+ % fragmented
[09:44] <aftertaf> lol thoreauputic
[09:44] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:44] <action09> aftertaf  ok i installed nvidia by ubuntu method glx enable don't modify anything ( no nvidia on xorg.conf) so i  decided to installed one from nvidia site
[09:45] <mustard5> action09, did you sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[09:45] <action09> mustard5 yep
[09:45] <Myrtti> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88344 (please)
[09:45] <thoreauputic> agro1986: check that your ~/.bashrc has colors turned on :)
[09:45] <mustard5> action09, maybe you had an altered xorg.conf before doing it
[09:45] <nalioth> hussam: that is considered "not enough to affect your system" levels
[09:45] <action09> when i relaunch X nothing  same free drivers.. no nvidia logo
[09:45] <hussam> nalioth: what if it increases?
[09:46] <mustard5> action09,  it borks from enabling if your xorg.conf has been changed
[09:46] <nalioth> hussam: then something is wrong with your system
[09:46] <action09> mustard5 maybe because i had some anoying lines when playing a video ? do you mean i had to try a dpkg-reconfigure xfree ?
[09:46] <mustard5> action09, breezy uses xorg
[09:46] <nalioth> hussam: it should stay ~5%
[09:46] <thoreauputic> hussam: I've never needed to defrag  a linux filesystem
[09:46] <action09> mustard5 yes sorry
[09:46] <thoreauputic> hussam: neither should you
[09:47] <Tidus> mustard5: only warty used xfree
[09:47] <action09> i will provide a nvidia bug report first to find why
[09:47] <agro1986> thoreauputic: no .bashrc in my home folder
[09:47] <mustard5> action09, possibly that might have helped or you could reset the xorg.conf and start again
[09:47] <action09> ok  thansk a lot all :)
[09:47] <aftertaf> action09: retry, from scratch... and youll need to rune the nvidia installer with the -uninstall option before ;)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agro1986: well, that's a problem
[09:47] <Tidus> action09: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:47] <mustard5> action09, stick around while you are doing it
[09:47] <action09> yes ok :)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agro1986: you kind of need one :)
[09:47] <nalioth> agro1986: make one, they come in really handy
[09:48] <mustard5> action09, I want to know the how the story ends :)
[09:48] <action09> sure
[09:48] <agro1986> thoreauputic: ok, what should I put in .bashrc to make colorful consoles?
[09:48] <nalioth> agro1986: if you ask uncle google "sample bashrc" or use the one in /etc/bash.bashrc (copy it your yours) to start you off
[09:48] <Madeye> guys, When we have to turn DMA on or OFF ?
[09:49] <Tidus> nalioth: if you don't have a .bashrc in your home folder, it uses the system global one in /etc
[09:49] <mustard5> Madeye, are you saying you want a DMA how to?
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: I'll show you mine in /query if that's OK
[09:49] <thoreauputic> arghhh
[09:49] <Madeye> mustard5, yes if it's required to understand when I have to turn it on or off.
[09:49] <thoreauputic> agro1986: sorry that was for you
[09:49] <nalioth> Tidus: i know this, agro1986 is the one missing a ~/.bashrc
[09:50] <Tidus> and if he's missing one, it'll just use the system global
[09:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Madeye about dma
[09:50] <mustard5> Madeye, oh..ok well I am not sure when you turn it off.  People usually turn it on to stop jerkiness in their DVD playback
[09:50] <nalioth> Tidus: agro1986 wants to have colored console output
[09:50] <thoreauputic> agro1986: did you see my /query?
[09:50] <Terminus> the bashrc the OS gives to new users is also in /etc/skel
[09:50] <mustard5> Madeye, the how to just covers turning it on
[09:50] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Madeye about dman
[09:50] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Madeye about dma
[09:50] <Tidus> Madeye: the only time i had to turn DMA off was with my OLD cd burner... it flat refused to work if DMA was on
[09:51] <Madeye> aha, cool
[09:51] <Madeye> cheers guys :-)
[09:51] <Blah`> hey how do u by pass the write protection on the source.list ??
[09:51] <Madeye> Blah`, sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:51] <Blah`> thanks
[09:52] <Tidus> Blah`: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:52] <Blah`> i thought it was sudo
[09:52] <Madeye> heh
[09:53] <mustard5> Blah`, sudo is what allows those apps to have permission to edit
[09:53] <Madeye> actually there is no pico because it's replaced by nano, but because people are used to pico bleh, it's a shortcut for nano now
[09:53] <Tidus> meh... i use vim anyway
[09:53] <mustard5> Tidus, I just noticed the -w in yours, I've never seen that before :)
[09:54] <mustard5> Tidus, it must be the default with nano
[09:54] <Tidus> mustard5: that switch turns off line wrapping
[09:54] <mustard5> Tidus, ahh!
[09:54] <Madeye> mustard5,  just for wrapping texts
[09:54] <mustard5> Tidus, I'm learning :)
[09:54] <Tidus> mustard5: nothing wrong with that :)
[09:54] <Blah`> btw does anyone kno what site i can add to the sources.list to get kismet ?
[09:55] <mustard5> !info kismet
[09:55] <Tidus> Blah`: just enable the universe repository
[09:55] <ubotu> kismet: (Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2005.08.R1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 983 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[09:55] <mustard5> universe
[09:55] <Blah`> how
[09:56] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Blah` about repositories
[09:56] <cbetan> Hello everybody. apt-get update is reporting some invalid signatures. What could that mean?
[09:56] <Tidus> Blah`: remove the '#' from the deb line containing 'universe' in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <mustard5> Blah`, check pm from ubotu
[09:56] <cbetan> GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:56] <robotgeek> !tell cbetan about GPGerr
[09:56] <_native_> !gpg error
[09:56] <ubotu> _native_: Are you on ritalin?
[09:56] <_native_> duh
[09:56] <mustard5> _native_, one word
[09:56] <_native_> my bad
[09:57] <_native_> :-P
[09:57] <_native_> !gpgerror
[09:57] <ubotu> _native_: Are you on ritalin?
[09:57] <_native_> arrgh
[09:57] <xuniluser> HELP: do you know any offline browser that can download websites???
[09:57] <mustard5> gpgerr ;)
[09:57] <_native_> gosh
[09:57] <robotgeek> xuniluser: you can use wget to do that, though there's httrack also
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> what would my odds be of successfully running ubuntu on this: Acer Aspire AS3003LCi Mobile Sempron AMD3000 15.0" 256MB 40GB DVD/CD-RW Combo SiS Mirage 2 NoteBook - Retail
[09:58] <xuniluser> robotgeek: oic.. thanks
[09:58] <mustard5> !gpgerr
[09:58] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[09:58] <robotgeek> xuniluser: webhttrack
[09:58] <_native_> what happens after 10 minutes exactly?
[09:59] <mustard5> _native_, I wouldnt have a clue :)
[09:59] <Habbie> the 10 minute wait makes no sense to me :)
[09:59] <mustard5> _native_, I just ignore gpg errors
[09:59] <mustard5> _native_, it doesnt stop stuff from installing
[09:59] <Blah`> ok thanks
[09:59] <Blah`> now how do i lock the sources.list file again?
[09:59] <cbetan> Thank you! Why did the GPG error happened in the first place? Any pointers to documentation?
[10:00] <Habbie> mustard5: that's a dangerous approach
[10:00] <mustard5> Blah`, what do you mean 'lock'?
[10:00] <cbetan> Did the ftpmaster change the gpg key?
[10:00] <Tidus> Blah`: just save and exit, and it's locked again
[10:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> do any of you guys know much about using ubuntu on an amd laptop?
[10:00] <_native_> sudo -K will drop your privs back down.
[10:00] <mustard5> Habbie, it is :)
[10:00] <_native_> instantly
[10:01] <mustard5> cbetan, its really just a connection issue that is doing it
[10:01] <Blah`> ok
[10:01] <nalioth> cbetan: it is nothing to do with you, it's a server glitch
[10:01] <Blah`> its fixed
[10:01] <Blah`> thanks alot
[10:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cbetan about gpgerr
[10:01] <cbetan> Hope you don't mind I insist, but how does a connection issue explain the gpg error?
[10:01] <mustard5> cbetan, I can hit reload in synaptic and get gpg errors every time..but I hardly ever get them with sudo apt-get update
[10:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> hmm..this sucks.
[10:02] <Tidus> adept for kubuntu is cool
[10:02] <cbetan> Alright, I guess I feel more confortable - was starting to get paranoic.
[10:02] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER, why are you having issues because its a sempron
[10:02] <_native_> ?
[10:02] <mustard5> cbetan, you can try sudo apt-get update if you like...I guarantee that it will work better than synaptic ;)
[10:03] <_native_> cause i have seen several people with installation issues on that processor.
[10:03] <cbetan> It seems the GPG error is rather frequent - why so? The first bell it rings in my head is 'security compromise'
[10:03] <mustard5> cbetan, as it should
[10:03] <mustard5> cbetan, the unreliability of it will lead to complacency (take me as an example)
[10:04] <cbetan> even an apt-get from the command line (ssh root@localhost - I use key authentication) gives the same error.
[10:05] <Tidus> heh, i just got a GPG error on my debian box
[10:05] <Tidus> immediately tried agian and it worked
[10:05] <cbetan> Anyway, already applied the robot response.
[10:05] <penguin_roar> does anybody know a good host monitoring app for Ubuntu?
[10:05] <cbetan> For the time being it will be fixed, but what if it happens again? mustard5, as you point, unreliability will lead to complacency - and then we may have no defense against an attack
[10:06] <penguin_roar> like, ping a host and warn if it doesnt respond
[10:06] <cbetan> Is there any official statement regarding the GPG problem? Any Ubuntu employee in this room?
[10:06] <mustard5> cbetan, what mirror you downloading from ?
[10:07] <mustard5> cbetan, no employees around that I know of...mostly community members
[10:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> semprons have ubuntu issues? :/
[10:07] <cbetan> be.archive.ubuntu.com (for updates) and archive.ubuntu.com for the rest. Both give the gpg error
[10:07] <mustard5> cbetan, k
[10:08] <Orborde> cbetan: You could try #ubuntu-devel , but I'm just kind of guessing here
[10:08] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: im not fully sure but was helping a girl "she was not new to linux" for like an hour with hers, it just would not install.
[10:08] <cbetan> (quick question, mustard5: how do you address messages to me. I'm quite rusty on irc - it's been a long time...)
[10:09] <aftertaf>  /msg nick
[10:09] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: whats your issue?
[10:09] <mustard5> type the first few letters of my nick and hit tab key
[10:09] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: if any.
[10:09] <mustard5> cbetan, I type your name first
[10:09] <cbetan> mustard5, Let's see...
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> issue?
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> my issue is that if i were to buy that laptop, i would want to have ubuntu on it.
[10:09] <mustard5> cbetan, yep..its in red for me
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> so..if that would be a problem, i probably wouldn't get it.
[10:09] <_native_> oh ok
[10:10] <_native_> i see
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> but being able to get a nice fast laptop for 600$ is awesome.  you gotta love living in an era where computers are so ridiculously fast, that even a 2-year-old one is still plenty fast for most every day usage.
[10:10] <mustard5> cbetan, its the nick at the front that tells xchat to change the lettering color
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i could just leave windows on it but..god..i hate windows
[10:10] <mustard5> cbetan, its a necessary thing in here when its busy :)
[10:10] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: is it one of those nice little compaq s ?
[10:10] <cbetan> What is the difference, then between using /msg or just the nick?
[10:10] <aftertaf> msg sends a private message to the person
[10:10] <mustard5> cbetan, /msg will send me a pm that only I can see
[10:10] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: no its an acer huh.
[10:11] <mustard5> cbetan, you see that private message ?
[10:11] <cbetan> mustard5, got it
[10:11] <mustard5> cbetan, you registered your nick too?
[10:12] <cbetan> Is it possible to assign a sound alert when someone addresses me a message?
[10:12] <aftertaf> cbetan: depends on your irc client
[10:12] <cbetan> yes, my nick is registered.  Thank you guys for your kind help
[10:14] <_native_> its grey on my end i hate it.
[10:14] <cbetan> aftertaf, you in france?
[10:14] <aftertaf> yes :)
[10:14] <mustard5> cbetan, np :)
[10:14] <nalioth> _native_: your client colores anything that mentions your nick
[10:14] <_native_> im not entierly sure.
[10:14] <cbetan> (I could remember /me ;-)
[10:15] <mustard5> strike3, what is wpa?
[10:15] <aftertaf> cbetan: cool ;) nice place :)
[10:15] <nalioth> mustard5: are ya pullin my leg?
[10:15] <_native_> i hate the grey and as dumb as it sounds i have'nt found how to change it in xchat.
[10:15] <nalioth> _native_: prefs
[10:15] <_native_> only your guys colors
[10:15] <mustard5> nalioth, I have no idea..or perhaps I am being senile ;)
[10:16] <strike3> mustard5: wireless security
[10:16] <_native_> yeah i can change yours but im so blind it seems that i dont see how to change mine.
[10:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=225282
[10:16] <aftertaf> wep protection algorithm ?
[10:16] <mustard5> strike3, ah ok
[10:16] <phiqtion> Good evening, i need help reinstalling the GRUB. it's completely gone after i installed Windows on a separate partition.
[10:16] <aftertaf> !grub
[10:16] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:16] <_native_> who wants to know wireless? i got cha on that ish.
[10:16] <_native_> security
[10:17] <mustard5> _native_, strike3
[10:18] <_native_> strike3: whats your question?
[10:18] <mustard5> _native_, wpa on acx chipset
[10:18] <phiqtion> nalioth, to reinstall GRUB. i need the LiveCD? i only have the installacion CD.
[10:18] <mustard5> _native_, he wants help..thats the ony info we have so far :)
[10:19] <hawking> I am on my university's network and trying to download torrents using azureus.But I always get a NAT error so I can't download well...Is there anyway to fix this problem? Do you know of any torrent programs that uses proxies?
[10:19] <strike3> _native_: cant get wpa supplicant setup - wireless was ok with no security - now trying to get wpa.
[10:19] <nalioth> phiqtion: it can be done from the install cd, but you really have to know what you're doing
[10:19] <_native_> wpa is implemented in software the chip is supposed to be irrelevant.
[10:19] <phiqtion> nalioth, give me the details bro.
[10:19] <robotgeek> hawking: maybe your university blocks torrents?
[10:19] <_native_> if your using wpa_supplicant that is or xsupplicant.
[10:19] <phiqtion> nalioth, i have some knowledge, but not yet a pro.
[10:20] <strike3> _native_@ wpa suplicant
[10:20] <nalioth> phiqtion: follow the installer til you answer the language and keyboard settings. at that point, click "go back" it should bring you to menu. choose "install bootloader"
[10:20] <hawking> robotgeek: yes I guess so but there are people here who uses proxies to get access to torrents...
[10:21] <phiqtion> nalioth, thanks
[10:21] <mustard5> phiqtion, good luck
[10:21] <phiqtion> thank you
[10:21] <_native_> strike3: hold on let me get at my configs
[10:22] <hawking> robotgeek: any ideas?
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> is 2.8 kg pretty light for a laptop?
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> 6.2 pounds i guess that would be on earth.
[10:22] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER: depends if that is heavy or not ;)
[10:22] <robotgeek> hawking: nope,sorry
[10:23] <neeja> 2.8kg is pretty heavy
[10:23] <corza> hey guys, i ripped a DVD with DVDBackup and now the Vob files have crappy voice over commentary what have i done wrong?
[10:23] <aftertaf> cbetan: and messge in forum here :)
[10:25] <mattfury> hi
[10:25] <mustard5> welcome mattfury
[10:25] <mattfury> can i ask for some help, im using debian.
[10:25] <mattfury> cp: cannot stat `/home/matfury/fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[10:25] <mattfury> after running:
[10:25] <mustard5> mattfury, I would say you are in the wrong working directory at a guess
[10:25] <mattfury> cp /home/mattfury/fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.dsc /usr/src && cp /home/matfury/fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.tar.gz /usr/src && cd /usr/src && dpkg-source -x fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.dsc && dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -tc -uc -D
[10:26] <mattfury> i am in /home/mattfury.
[10:26] <mattfury> and the file exists ...
[10:26] <_native_> strike3: did you read the wpa howto at the ubuntu wiki?
[10:26] <mustard5> mattfury, I can see the typo from here ;)
[10:26] <mustard5> mattfury, there are two 't's' in matt ;)
[10:27] <mattfury> if there werent two t's in my nick ... why wouldnt there be two t's in my home dir.
[10:27] <strike3> _native_: yes didnt work - i have acx card which i seen somewhere has problems
[10:27] <ccooke> mattfury: read the command string again carefully.
[10:27] <mustard5> mattfury, you have used one 't' in matt
[10:28] <mattfury> huh?
[10:28] <mattfury> d'Oh111!!..
[10:28] <mattfury> ....lol
[10:28] <strike3> _native_: card light comes on if i try to ping etc but no connection
[10:28] <mustard5> mattfury, well done :D
[10:29] <mustard5> mattfury, no pasting in main channel too ;)
[10:29] <mattfury> i did what it said.
[10:29] <mustard5> mattfury, read topic /topic
[10:29] <mattfury> what in #flood?
[10:29] <mustard5> yep
[10:29] <mustard5> I'm in there now
[10:29] <revmoo> hi, im getting no sound in avi files i have w32codecs installed and all other sound works, any ideas?
[10:29] <revmoo> xvid format..
[10:29] <mattfury> ok could you look at this mustard5 ?
[10:29] <mustard5> mustard5, yep
[10:30] <_native_> strike3: what i did was take it in steps get wireless working with no encryption, then WEP, then WPA. does WEP work with your card?
[10:30] <Bonarges> there
[10:30] <Bonarges> <--BonBon in windows
[10:31] <strike3> _native_: never tried wep
[10:31] <Bonarges> do you guys know if you can run Guild Wars in WINE?
[10:31] <_native_> strike3: you should.
[10:31] <revmoo> ive run it in cedega its slow though
[10:31] <Bonarges> yeah, thought it might be
[10:31] <phiqtion> nalioth, which partition i select from GRUB to write?
[10:31] <Bonarges> being streaming
[10:31] <revmoo> a 3ghz with 1gig of ram and a good vid card could prolly handle it ok
[10:31] <nalioth> phiqtion: the /mbr, i'd suspect
[10:32] <revmoo> but i have a celeron so its just too choppy
[10:32] <phiqtion> nalioth, no MBR in the menu
[10:32] <phiqtion> nalioth, it
[10:32] <Bonarges> how do i optomize the speed of my wireless card?  I've got it installed and configured, do i need to do port forwarding to get it to work?
[10:32] <nalioth> phiqtion: then you need to know the partition your linux is on
[10:32] <phiqtion> nalioth, i know that
[10:32] <_native_> strike3: i dont know your wireless expertise level so dont be insulted if i ask seemingly lame questions to find out what you do and dont know. :-]
[10:32] <nalioth> phiqtion: thats the one to use
[10:32] <Bonarges> it's ok, i used to do tech support
[10:33] <Bonarges> so: yes, the computer is plugged in, it is on
[10:33] <Bonarges> lol
[10:33] <_native_> strike3: cause wireless can be tricky.
[10:33] <Bonarges> oh, talking to someoen else, lol, my bad
[10:33] <strike3> _native_: im new to linux  - i wont be offended
[10:33] <phiqtion> nalioth, are you sure? it seems it wants to erase the partition and copy everything to it. it doesn't look like it wants to install the GRUB.
[10:33] <nalioth> phiqtion: then stop where you are
[10:33] <Bonarges> it's amazing how much you learn about linux, just sitting in here and watching the scroll, lol
[10:33] <phiqtion> nalioth, done.
[10:34] <_native_> strike3: do you know if your card is 32 bit interface or 16 bit?
[10:34] <mattfury> can someone try to solve my problem?
[10:34] <mattfury> any (experienced) person.
[10:34] <mattfury> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4293
[10:34] <phiqtion> nalioth, i selected "install the grub boot loader on a hard disk" is this the correct option?
[10:34] <corza> hey guys, i ripped a DVD with DVDBackup and now the Vob files have crappy voice over commentary what have i done wrong?
[10:34] <nalioth> phiqtion: it is
[10:34] <Bonarges> corza: you have probably chosen the wrong streams, if it's like ripping is for windows
[10:34] <phiqtion> nalioth, well, the next menu is the same menu i got when i formatted my partiton 6 to ext3.
[10:35] <phiqtion> nalioth, in ubuntu
[10:35] <nalioth> mattfury: please dont post the "download" links for us, use the URL out of the address bar
[10:35] <corza> Bonarges: how can i choose the right streams?
[10:35] <strike3> _native_:  its acx111 dont know if that 32 or 16
[10:35] <mattfury> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4293
[10:35] <cyphase> argh
[10:36] <cyphase> my server isn't detecting the network
[10:36] <cyphase> at all
[10:36] <nalioth> mattfury: yes i see it. open the tar.gz and copy your .diff and .dsc into it
[10:36] <cyphase> but it configured DHCP during installation
[10:36] <phiqtion> nalioth, what do i do next?
[10:36] <mattfury> ok
[10:36] <Bonarges> corza, when you open your dvd ripper, does it give you a selection of files to choose from? the vobs?
[10:36] <nalioth> phiqtion: get a liveCD
[10:37] <_native_> strike3: so do you know the basics of bringing up a card by hand using the commandline?
[10:37] <phiqtion> nalioth, there must be a way. what do you would do in this menu to install grub?
[10:37] <corza> ? i just typed in to rip the whole movie
[10:37] <corza> in termina
[10:37] <corza> l
[10:37] <Bonarges> corza: this is an awesome website for rippers/endcoders, etc
[10:37] <Bonarges> www.doom9.org
[10:37] <nalioth> phiqtion: i'd back my stuff up and do as we have been doing
[10:37] <Bonarges> http://www.doom9.org/
[10:38] <Bonarges> it may have what you need to know
[10:38] <corza> i have a ripper.
[10:38] <Bonarges> i've only done ripping in windows
[10:38] <Bonarges> well, not just the programs, but faqs on using them
[10:38] <corza> i already have a ripper.. it's called CDBackup.
[10:38] <_native_> err
[10:39] <corza> DVDBackup*
[10:39] <corza> and i don't use windows
[10:39] <Bonarges> ah
[10:39] <Bonarges> I was hoping the program worked in a similar way
[10:39] <corza> no it has no GUI
[10:40] <Bonarges> ah
[10:40] <phiqtion> nalioth, does it have to do something with LVM?
[10:40] <Bonarges> well, you could run DVD Decrypter through wine, the Win proggy works real good, imo
[10:40] <Bonarges> ok, what files do you extract when you use dvdbackup?
[10:41] <Bonarges> like does it send them to a folder?
[10:41] <nalioth> phiqtion: it does not
[10:41] <corza> what files do i get i get vob files.
[10:41] <corza> thing is i dont have wine on my computer
[10:41] <Bonarges> ok, the biggest vob file is the movie
[10:41] <nalioth> corza: use dvdrip
[10:41] <Bonarges> the picture
[10:42] <corza> yeah i open the vob file and it opens and all it's the whole movie except it has commentary voice over
[10:42] <Bonarges> ok,when you ripped did it give you options to unpack files or did it just unpack everything
[10:43] <corza> ohhhh wait a minute!
[10:43] <corza> nevermind lol!! i was opening the wrong file :)
[10:43] <phiqtion> does dvdrip takes my dvd and changes it to mpg or avi?
[10:43] <phiqtion> in the hd
[10:44] <corza> actually, no i wasnt opening the wrong file.. it's just that when i open it in mplayer it has commantary and in totem it has it normal?? oh well i'm over it :P
[10:44] <nalioth> phiqtion: you can choose
[10:44] <Bonarges> :)
[10:44] <Bonarges> corza: glad i could help, lol
[10:44] <corza> lol you done a lot ;P
[10:44] <Bonarges> i still recommend doom9.org, lot of information on codecs
[10:44] <Bonarges> and ripping,etc
[10:45] <corza> meh i can't get alien to work with FrostWire.
[10:45] <phiqtion> nalioth, can we talk somewhere else?
[10:45] <Bonarges> maybe you could help me
[10:45] <clb_> is wine == winex_
[10:46] <clb_> ?
[10:46] <Bonarges> Do i need to port-forward my wireless card to get it to run
[10:46] <KaoticEvil> anyone care to lend a hanf for a second?
[10:46] <KaoticEvil> hand*
[10:46] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, depends no the problem :)
[10:46] <Bonarges> clb_:  for lack of better word, it's an emulator that runs windows programs in linux
[10:46] <mustard5> KaoticEvil,  whats the issue?
[10:47] <Bonarges> not a true emulator, or a true running of a second OS, but more like appropriating some windows operations to run the files in linux
[10:47] <clb_> Bonarges: yes but is there different packages or programs called wine and winex? or is there such thing as winex?
[10:47] <KaoticEvil> muep:  i just moved /home to its own partition, and that went flawlessly... but im at a loss as to what to enter into /etc/fstab for options, dump, and pass
[10:47] <corza> Bongares: what are you trying to 'run'?
[10:47] <Bonarges> clb_:  I belive xwine is the name, it's supposed to be a graphical interface for wine
[10:47] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, you want to see my fstab?
[10:47] <corza> i'd like to see your fstab ;)
[10:47] <KaoticEvil> ive already got the device, mount point, and filesystem
[10:47] <Bonarges> corza: well, most people use it for games, but i understand you can use it
[10:47] <Bonarges> for stuff like office
[10:48] <clb_> Bonarges: ok.. so is wine free? and cedega is commercial?
[10:48] <Bonarges> wine is free
[10:48] <J_Element> how do install .gz audio driver packages?
[10:48] <phiqtion> nalioth, i did it :)
[10:48] <corza> you mean gaming servers right?
[10:48] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4294
[10:48] <KaoticEvil> mustard5:  sure... ill see if i can extract what i need from it :)
[10:49] <Orborde> Bonarges: Cedega is "we let people download the source but we'll kill you if you try to do much with it", isn't it??
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> thanks
[10:49] <Bonarges> clb_: http://winehq.org/
[10:49] <corza> Bonagres: what are you trying to do with the wireless network card?
[10:49] <nalioth> phiqtion: great!
[10:49] <Bonarges> Orborde: I hear it's not as good as wine, but i've not used it so i can't say
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> i just cant believe that i moved an entire partition without rebooting...
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> ive been using windows too long LOL
[10:49] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, :)
[10:50] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, you see the link above?
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> mustard5:  i did
[10:50] <bobslaede> hey everybody... I've got a tiny problem with keyboard layouts.
[10:50] <mustard5> k
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> what are the dump and pass options for anyway?
[10:50] <bobslaede> you anybody got a minute :)
[10:50] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, I have no idea ;)
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> LOL ok
[10:50] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, I'm as much in the dark as you
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> well, i got what i needed.. thanks :)
[10:51] <Habbie> KaoticEvi: the pass-options influence the order in which the filesystems are checked
[10:51] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, k
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> Habbie:  with fsck?
[10:51] <Habbie> KaoticEvi: yes
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> ok
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> and the dump options?
[10:51] <Habbie> man dump :)
[10:51] <corza> Bonarges: what are you trying to do with your wireless network card?
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> doh
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> No manual entry for dump
[10:52] <Habbie> oh ;)
[10:52] <mustard5> bobslaede, describe your problem plz
[10:52] <Habbie> in any case, dump is a backup tool
[10:52] <KaoticEvil> lol
[10:52] <KaoticEvil> ..
[10:52] <Habbie> and that column can specify whether or not a partition should be backed up etc.
[10:52] <{dss}> Anyone used snort?
[10:52] <mustard5> bobslaede, if someone knows they will put their hand up to help
[10:52] <KaoticEvil> oh, ok
[10:52] <bobslaede> mustard5: yes sir :)
[10:52] <mustard5> :)
[10:53] <KaoticEvil> ok, thanks mustard5 and Habbie :)
[10:53] <KaoticEvil> yall are great :)
[10:53] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, your welcome
[10:53] <Habbie> np :)
[10:54] <bobslaede> I have two layouts, danish, and us english, us for coding. And i can swicht 'em, except for one app (zend develpment enviroment), only danish works there. in my xorg.conf the layout is "us", and the current layout of gnome is en_US, but not this program. The app itself cannot be configured with layouts
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, you got any easier questions ;)
[10:55] <mustard5> hehe
[10:55] <bobslaede> good enough mustard5?
[10:55] <bobslaede> hehe
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, thats very good
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, I wish I knew the answer :)
[10:55] <bobslaede> i wish so too
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, hopefully someone will
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, its pretty quiet in here atm though
[10:55] <bobslaede> mustard5, hopefully