[08:39] <vedic> I have setup logwatch which is sending email every day and log file as attachment to that email. I am creating log file manually by running logwatcher --output to file and then using commandline email client to send that log file as attachment. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?
[08:39] <kunji> Wug: Or maybe you want to force a particular level of cpu scaling and the bios doesn't happen to support this in their GUI, whereas Catalyst would actually allow you to set this on WIndows, but I believe it does not on Ubuntu.
[08:40] <Wug> generally the bios will let you use levels of scaling that are far beyond what the cpu is capable of
[08:40] <kunji> BlackDalek: Probably Winff
[08:40] <Wug> unless you mean a cpu with a locked multiplier or something
[08:40] <kunji> BlackDalek: Or maybe OpenShot, ffmpeg will for sure work, but using it directly isn't the easiest thing
[08:40] <Wug> but I don't think you need to worry about breaking 6GHz for a while :D
[08:41] <Wug> I'm going to post a guide of exactly how I unborked my partitions later
[08:41] <kunji> Wub: I don't mean that, I mean the dynamic scaling they often do for power saving
[08:41] <Wug> wub wub wub \:D/
[08:41]  * Wug goes away
[08:41] <lupfantomo> This is ridiculous.  I can't even surf thanks to it.  Getting rid of ubuntu once and for all I think.  Each update only has more problems and it's become more hassle than it's worth.
[08:41] <BlackDalek> kunji, I have been trying ffmeg but every time it makes a hideously pixelated low quality file... trying openshot right now, but it's very slow...
[08:42] <Wug> BlackDalek: post the arguments you're using (or pastebin them if theyre huge)
[08:43] <defekt> !botsnack
[08:43] <kunji> BlackDalek: Well, conveting video will always be slow.  Also the problem you're having with ffmpeg is almost certainly that you're not giving it the right arguments.  Almost every conversion tool on linux uses ffmpeg underneath, including OpenShot.  So if OpenShot ends up giving better results, then you know for sure you just weren't giving ffmpeg the right arguments for preserving quality, etc..
[08:43] <kunji> *converting
[08:43] <Wug> brb restarting x
[08:45] <Wug> I dont know why I bothered to come back
[08:45] <Tex_Nick> BlackDalek:  try ... ffmpeg -i inVid.ogg -sameq outVid.mpg
[08:45] <Wug> nothing's broken \:D/
[08:47] <Tex_Nick> BlackDalek:  ogg = ogv ^
[08:48] <ibqn> I have issues with my wifi connection after an update I am not able to connect anymore!!! using broadcom
[08:49] <waheedi> people anyone knows where can i find session command for ubuntu
[08:49] <waheedi> ?
[08:49] <dydzEz2> is adding a custom grub background image as easy as going into boot/grub as root and adding an image and then updating grub?
[08:49] <waheedi> trying to use session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so
[08:49] <Alocer> yes dydzEz2
[08:49] <dydzEz2> i want to make a image that like hides the lines and makes everything natural
[08:50] <Alocer> comment out the line that you dont want
[08:51] <pleb22> Hi there, I am having trouble with chromium and firefox connecting to the internet... but ping DOES work
[08:51] <kunji> lupfantomo:I missed the beginning of your conversation, but you're trying to get a wireless connection to work?  You're sure it's the right driver?  For getting help with that you should probably provide exactly what the device, you can find this using: lspci   Also any errors that might be related in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog  Also check that the correct module is present, and being loaded (this part I'm unfortunately fuzzy on, pr
[08:52] <dydzEz2>  alocer i mean like the box , the layout of grub
[08:52] <dydzEz2> you can do that? what file
[08:52] <vedic> I have setup logwatch which creates a file as --output. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?
[08:52] <Alocer> dydzEz2, i think you have recompile it IDK
[08:53] <Wug> pleb22: you're using irc from the box with issues?
[08:53] <kunji> pleb22: Have you checked if your dns is working?  Does ping something.com fail, but ping x.x.x.x works?
[08:53] <pleb22> Wug: Negative
[08:54] <pleb22> DNS works from ping
[08:54] <Wug> what sort of errors are you getting from the web?
[08:54] <Wug> also is this a wired or wireless connection
[08:54] <pleb22> Wug: Just unresponsive
[08:54] <pleb22> it doesnt time out
[08:54] <pleb22> bridged VMWARE
[08:54] <kunji> pleb22: Hmm, maybe incorrect system wide proxy settings (which firefox will use by default)?
[08:54] <pleb22> no proxy
[08:55] <Wug> pleb22: host machine works though?
[08:55] <Halite> .
[08:55] <pleb22> host works fine
[08:55] <Halite> omg
[08:55]  * Halite became a chicken
[08:55] <Alocer> pleb22, what about firewall on both host and guest
[08:55] <pleb22> bridged should bypass host.. but checking firewall now
[08:55] <pleb22> ufw maybe...
[08:55] <Halite> It should be easier to make programs
[08:55] <Wug> Halite: no it shouldn't
[08:55] <pleb22> will try turning off ufw... how do you do that btw?
[08:55] <Halite> for those who don't know Python
[08:56] <Wug> thats like saying it should be easier to make cars
[08:56] <Halite> Wug: It may be easy enough, but there are people who don't use Python
[08:56] <Wug> can you imagine a world where everyone drove a bucket of bolts they built themselves
[08:56] <STMelon> pleb22: suso ufw disable
[08:56] <Alocer> pleb22, "ufw disable"
[08:56] <Wug> there would be no standards
[08:56] <pleb22> disabled
[08:56] <pleb22> nothing
[08:56] <Threepwood> Halite: cmon programming python easy, also for people not using it, nothing compared to sth real like c++
[08:56] <pleb22> will disable host now
[08:57] <pleb22> host firewall off... dont hack me :p
[08:57] <Halite> Threepwood: I should make a Javascript API for Ubuntu programming, any ideas on that
[08:57] <Alocer> lol
[08:57]  * Wug haxors pleb22
[08:57]  * Halite haxors Wug
[08:57] <Alocer> lol how u do that wug :P ?
[08:57] <pleb22> is haxored
[08:58] <Threepwood> Halote: no sorry, didn't do that, so I also would have to ask the net :)
[08:58] <Wug> im behind 7 proxies, a bouncer, and 2 routers
[08:58] <auronandace> Halite: maybe gnome3 developer would like you
[08:58] <pleb22> both firewalls off... nothing
[08:58] <Wug> now you're trapped inside. checkmate :D
[08:58] <pleb22> damn
[08:58] <vedic>  I have setup logwatch which creates a file as --output. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?
[08:58] <kunji> Wub: But all your systems have UPnP turned on :P
[08:58] <pleb22> whilst your haxoring me, could you fix my internet?? :p
[08:58] <Wug> kunji: universal plug and pwn
[08:59] <Alocer> w8 pleb22 how are u talking here right now ?
[08:59] <kunji> pleb22: Ah, vmware and networking, you should probably give the details of your entire setup and pastebin them.  Also, the folks in ##networking may know more, also in whatever the vmware channel is (it could be some bug on their end, we haven't ruled anything out).
[08:59] <Alocer> pleb22, R U on host ?
[08:59] <Tex_Nick> Alocer : you type /me message ... and it dings every device on the net ờᴗớ
[08:59] <Wug> look at wug's magical topic derailing powers
[08:59] <Wug> I think its time for me to go.  night everyone
[08:59] <pleb22> yeah on host
[08:59] <pleb22> its just the ubuntu box that wont connect... so wierd
[09:00] <pleb22> bet this will be something simple and humiliating
[09:00] <Alocer> ok ru sure the problem isnt related to VMWare ?
[09:00] <pleb22> well maybe, but simplest connection is bridged, which just behaves like a physical nic
[09:01] <pleb22> bridges a local nic and has an IP address on external network
[09:01] <pleb22> it WAS working
[09:01] <Alocer> what is the environment variable for proxis have checked them ?
[09:01] <Alocer> have you checked*
[09:03] <pleb22> checking now... should be no proxy
[09:03] <pleb22> oh
[09:03] <pleb22> env variable?
[09:03] <pleb22> where do I find that
[09:03] <Alocer> yes i think
[09:03] <Alocer> i cant remebered
[09:03] <Alocer> remember it *
[09:03] <Alocer> sry
[09:04] <pleb22> lol
[09:04] <pleb22> didnt know there was such a thing
[09:05] <Alocer> check the file : -> /etc/environment/ dont change it just c if its empty or not . mine have only path variable
[09:05] <kunji> pleb22: Easy way to check though, open firefox, edit->preferences->advanced->network->Settings  Set to No proxy and then see if it works
[09:05] <Alocer> lol
[09:05] <Alocer> yes
[09:05] <pleb22> yeah did that
[09:05] <pleb22> nada
[09:06] <Alocer> i have no cards to show you
[09:06] <kunji> pleb22: Mmmk, shouldn't be misconfiged proxy settings then
[09:06] <Alocer> pleb22, R u living in iran ?
[09:07] <pleb22> lol
[09:07] <pleb22> nor china
[09:07] <pleb22> NZ
[09:07] <Alocer> :P
[09:07] <pleb22> host connects as well
[09:07] <pleb22> so annoying
[09:07] <Alocer> idk sry
[09:07] <pleb22> dev box, so its holding me up now... grr
[09:08] <pleb22> ok next test, is another vm on the same bridged network!
[09:08] <Alocer> try creating another profile with network manager
[09:08] <kunji> pleb22: Messed up route table sending traffic going different places over other interfaces?  Does route look okay to you?  I don't want you posting your public ip on here though, so remember to change anything to x.x.x.x if needed before pastebinning it, if needed.  I'm stabbing in the dark at this point though -_-
[09:08] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 ... when i try to connect to windoze 7 ics ... ics is showing a conflicting IP Addy ... i don't have an IP on this ubuntu lan that would cause that
[09:10] <Tex_Nick> :( sorry i don't kids do
[09:10] <ibqn> my wifi has stopped working after one more low quality update on a lenovo s10-3t laptop, I am not able to fix it(((
[09:11] <pleb22> ibqn: bummer dude
[09:12] <Halite> I plan to make a web development designer - how can I make a multiline rich textbox in Glade Designer
[09:12] <kunji> ibqn: Hmm, I've got that laptop, it might be something the firmware can change that is (as far as I know) only accessible from windows.
[09:14]  * Halite hate Windows
[09:14]  * Halite falls in love with Ubuntu
[09:14] <ibqn> kunji, what is accessible from windows?
[09:14] <kunji> ibqn: You've checked the hardware switch right?  Then in Windows that comes on it, using the fn+f5 toggles the wireless in firmware (this is the part I don't know how to access from linux).
[09:14]  * Halite has a baby with Ubuntu
[09:15] <ibqn> kunji, it was working well
[09:15] <Halite> I plan to make a web development kit - how can I make a multiline rich textbox in Glade Designer for the HTML
[09:15] <ibqn> kunji, and fn buttons still work as well
[09:16] <kunji> ibqn: And windows hasn't been booted since?  Then it's probably not a hardware specific problem.  The buttons do work for other things, but not for that (i.e. they work for volume, brightness, etc.. )
[09:17] <Tex_Nick> Halite:  this channel is not for programming support ... try ##programming :)
[09:17] <kunji> ibqn: Ok, hmm, the wireless won't work at all?  Are you using the network manager, or have you swapped it for something else?
[09:17] <Halite> where was that ubuntu development channel again
[09:17] <Halite> was it ##ubuntu-development
[09:17] <Halite> ##ubuntu-devel-kit
[09:18] <kunji> Halite: Hmm, actually does glade have it's own channel?  It's a pretty specific topic.
[09:18] <ibqn> kunji, it seems to work but I am not able to establish any connection any more
[09:18] <Halite> ##glade
[09:19] <ibqn> it just disconnects
[09:19] <Halite> #glade
[09:19] <Tex_Nick> Halite: sounds like you're referring to the channel for ubuntu development team
[09:19] <Alocer> pleb22, what happend fixed ?
[09:21] <patrycjusz> anyone can help me with my question ? witch is better for personal use, vagrant of ubuntu instalation from scratch on VirtualBox
[09:21] <kunji> ibqn: Ah, then we get to look at all kinds of things.  Check for errors in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog that are related to the wireless.  Also pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file, (or describe the setting you're using to connect if you're using network manager).  Also describe the network you're trying to connect to, (Open, WPA, WEP, WPA2, needs a signed cert, etc... ).
[09:23] <kunji> ibqn: Oh, also the output of lspci just in case they used more than one kind of wireless card in this model.  By the way, if it's the same as the one in mine, using it as an access point and in the other modes actually works really well.
[09:24] <pleb22> Alocer: Nah, all VM's are broken :(
[09:24] <pleb22> must be vmware bridged connection broke
[09:24] <pleb22> going to get a box of tissues
[09:24] <pleb22> cause thats sad
[09:24] <kunji> pleb22: Hmm, have you tried a reboot yet, it might fix it.
[09:25] <pleb22> theres a thought
[09:25] <pleb22> But my wife is watching a movie
[09:25] <pleb22> and would get upset at me
[09:25] <pleb22> haha
[09:26] <pleb22> Argo
[09:26] <pleb22> not bad
[09:26] <kunji> pleb22: lol, is it eating all the bandwidth, that could be the problem, after all, I doubt the host is doing any QOS.
[09:27] <pleb22> actually, thats probably it.... I half shutdown earlier today, and cancelled the shutdown. Probably got to killing vmwares networking service lol
[09:27] <pleb22> nah, we do this all the time.. Netgear N600
[09:27] <pleb22> reasonably beafy
[09:28] <kunji> pleb22: Ah, ok, I was thinking you were routing the video through the host or something, I've been looking at linux based routing stuff too much recently :P
[09:28] <pleb22> oh I am
[09:29] <pleb22> but not from linux
[09:29] <pleb22> host is serving that
[09:29] <kepler> kunji: http://goo.gl/6XGsz with pfsense
[09:29] <kepler> then http://goo.gl/E7jCe for a WAP
[09:30] <zetheroo> Has anyone successfully embedded audio into a PDF in Ubuntu?
[09:30] <kunji> kepler: That's a really convenient one having the two wired NICs
[09:30] <kepler> yeah, i picked one up a couple months ago
[09:30] <dydzEz2> is there anyway to get a true actual resolution picture of my grub that is shown when im booting my pc
[09:30] <dydzEz2> cuz god id spend 500 bucks easy and send that to a graphics designer for some sick images
[09:31] <kepler> small and quiet
[09:31] <kepler> fanless, so it just sits there
[09:31] <kunji> zetheroo: Personally I think embedded audio in a pdf is a travesty... haven't tried it.
[09:32] <kunji> dydzEz2: There should be, have you read the docs yet?
[09:32] <kunji> !grub2 | dydzEz2
[09:33] <kunji> dydzEz2: The second link goes to pretty good documentation for pretty much everything it can do (follow any further links from there).
[09:33] <dydzEz2> thanks
[09:42] <isasha_> Hiya. Can anyone help me change permissions for a hdd that doesn't let me write?
[09:42] <kunji> isasha_: Maybe, is it NTFS?
[09:43] <Tex_Nick> dydzEz2:  pc tutorial videos often show th pc starting up, with clear video ... what they usually do is connect the video of the computer that is starting to a video capture card on another pc
[09:43] <isasha_> possibly
[09:43] <isasha_> it may be even mac-os x journaled
[09:43] <dydzEz2> video capture card hmm
[09:44] <dydzEz2> tex_nick is newegg a good site for those
[09:44] <kunji> isasha_: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l  and let me which device you think this drive is (you can probably tell from the size).
[09:44] <kunji> *let me know..
[09:44] <Tex_Nick> dydzEz2:  yes !!! best source imho :)
[09:44] <FnorZ> anybody has experience with gaming keyboards under ubuntu/linux?
[09:45] <kunji> FnorZ: Umm, I've got one, I haven't tried using any of the special stuff though (aka macros)
[09:45] <FnorZ> kunji, thats exactly what my question was aiming for :O
[09:46] <isasha_> kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632467/
[09:46] <isasha_> it's the /dev/sdc one
[09:46] <Tex_Nick> dydzEz2:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=video+capture&x=0&y=0  ... you'll need ti filter that list cause there are over 700 devices
[09:47] <dydzEz2> ths needs to be worked on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Themes
[09:47] <FnorZ> i seek a gaming keyboard with which i can use the billions of special keys under linux
[09:47] <kunji> FnorZ: My guess is that it depends how much is done on the keyboard itself (if it stores the macros on it's own there) or if it's done through the driver or what.
[09:47] <Axio> Hi, I tried to install 3.8 kernel on ubuntu 12.04, but it breaks lirc (I need to test the latest kernel to confirm a bug). When I try to restart lirc it, in the terminal it hangs forever and I can't kill it. What should I do?
[09:47] <FnorZ> kunji, yep, thats a point
[09:47] <FnorZ> the latter one would be the more OS dependent one
[09:47] <Threepwood> Axio: "kill -9" can't kill it?
[09:48] <Axio> Threepwood: nope it can't kill it
[09:48] <sencha> 12.04 is really freaking nice.
[09:48] <sencha> the only thing I wish Unity had was a pager
[09:49] <isasha_> kunji ?
[09:49] <theadmin> sencha: Pager?
[09:49] <kunji> isasha_: Oh, it's using gpt instead of just MBR, run sudo parted -l   I should probably start telling people to use that off the bat these days instead of fdisk.
[09:49] <eni> how do i see my intel hd 4000 has the right drivers installed? When i was scrolling on a browser it was "crashing" and top told me xorg was eating 70% cpu
[09:50] <kunji> isasha_: Considering how many more gpt drives we're seeing with Win8 out
[09:50] <sencha> theadmin, yeah, like the workspace switcher, but not with 3d effects
[09:50] <sencha> theadmin, a pager just shows all the desktops and you can click on them individually to bring them up
[09:50] <Threepwood> Axio: is it a zombie process or a really active one?
[09:50] <theadmin> sencha: Oh. I thought you were refering to a program like less or more
[09:50] <Axio> Threepwood: I have no idea
[09:51] <melty> lol
[09:51] <isasha_> kunji: I'm pretty sure I didn't touch windows 8 with a 10 foot pole & that hard drive :P
[09:51] <sencha> oh, my fonts are a little blurry too
[09:51] <isasha_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632475/
[09:51] <sencha> I've tried install gnome-tweak-tools and changing the hinting, but they're still kinda blurry compared to my old slackware install
[09:51] <sencha> plus they're "fatter"
[09:51] <kunji> eni: Hmm, I think with modprobe, but you could have the right ones installed and still be having problems.  So you should check the x logs in /var/log for error messages etc..
[09:51] <kunji> isasha_: Doesn't have to be win8 though, that's just the cause for my seeing so many lately
[09:52] <Axio> Threepwood: right now I am on 3.5 on 12.04, lirc works fine. How come it stops working with 3.8?
[09:52] <isasha_> kunji: oh well. So what do I do?
[09:52] <kunji> isasha_: Pastebin that other command for me,  sudo parted -l
[09:52] <eni> kunji, where exactly in var log?
[09:52] <isasha_> kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632475/
[09:53] <Threepwood> Axio: I have no idea, I am not a kernel expert, just thought it is strange you couldn't kill the process
[09:53] <kunji> eni: Any of the logs with an x in the name I think, the one with the 0 as well has the most recent logs I think
[09:55] <kunji> isasha_: huh, that's weird, nothing under File System.  Are you running a GUI?  If so, try using gparted.  Install it with sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:56] <eni> kunji, it looks fairly ok to me
[09:56] <dydzEz2> vmware doesnt load grub, does virtual box by oracle load grub?
[09:56] <kunji> isasha_: Or we can just go ahead and try mounting it as ntfs and see if it works.  NTFS is usually my first bet when people are having trouble with permissions on drives(because it does not respect posix permissions).
[09:56] <dydzEz2> oh it does, i remember
[09:57] <isasha_> kunji: well the drive is already mounted... btw, installing gparted now
[09:57] <eni> kunji, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632484/
[09:57] <eni> kunji, Xorg.0.log
[09:59] <Arvendu> Helllo guys
[09:59] <isasha_> kunji: it's hfs+
[10:00] <kunji> eni:Is this the boot it failed on still?  Or have you rebooted since?  Maybe check the older logs if you have any.
[10:00] <Arvendu> need some help guys
[10:00] <kunji> isasha_: Oh... mac drive
[10:00] <isasha_> indeed
[10:00] <isasha_> please don't lecture me
[10:00] <julian__> hi everyone. i've recently installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop (toshiba satellite pro l500-1t1), and everything just worked fine, including changing the display brightness. then after the first upgrades (just ran the update manager), the display brightness seems is not changed anymore when using the hotkeys, even though the notification still pops up. i've tried various methods i've read on the forums, none of them worked. is there
[10:00] <julian__> anything i can do to fix or troubleshoot this?
[10:01] <kunji> isasha_: Sorry, I have no idea what your knowledge is on any particular topic
[10:01] <kunji> isasha_: In that case it should be respecting normal posix permissions though, so it's a matter of setting them with chmod I would think
[10:01] <Arvendu> which ubuntu version is best for my laptop config 2GB Ram and C2D proce
[10:02] <kunji> Arvendu: I would probably go with Lubuntu on that, I think it would handle standard Ubuntu, but it wouldn't be as snappy.
[10:04] <Arvendu> k but i already have windows in c drive can i install ubuntu in D drive ?
[10:06] <kunji> Arvendu: Absolutely, make sure to move out any data you need to keep first though :P  (I'm assuming D drive is an HD and not a cdrom, floppy, or the like, though installing to external HDs works as well).
[10:06] <kunji> Arvendu: Or even to usb drives, though they aren't made for the sort of file access operating systems do, so using one for that could shorten it's life considerably.
[10:07] <Arvendu> yea  ofc ...:P and what about License validity @ kunji
[10:07] <kamil> cześć
[10:07] <kamil> Hi
[10:07] <kunji> Arvendu: What license validity?  That is, what license?
[10:08] <kamil>
[10:08] <zetheroo> kunji: I ask because my Dad does this with Acrobat Pro and I have not yet found anything for Linux that does this
[10:08] <Arvendu> like windows have 30 days free trail somthing like that ?
[10:08] <Tex_Nick> Arvendu:  linux/ubuntu is open source ... nope no trials :)
[10:09] <rasin> hi guys, ive got a laptop with no cd drive, and i've not got a usb pen drive, but am running ubuntu 12.10 but i would like to do a fresh install. is there any other way I can do it? I have the .iso..
[10:09] <Arvendu> tx then downloadin start 12.04
[10:09] <kunji> Arvendu: Ah, Ubuntu uses an open source license (I forget which one though), but it's completely free, you can use it basically as you wish.
[10:09] <Arvendu> which one is better 12.04 or 12.10 ..
[10:09] <kunji> Arvendu: Umm, one thing to be careful of is if you live in a country that bans the import of encryption algorithms.
[10:10] <kunji> Arvendu: Neither is better per se, they have different purposes.
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> Arvendu  12.04 has longer support, but they're both good
[10:10] <kunji> Arvendu: 12.04 is an LTS release, so it will  generally be more stable, and it will be supported for I think 5 years
[10:10] <Arvendu> i just want to use for basic purpose ...like surfing watching videos etc
[10:11] <kunji> Arvendu: 12.10 is the newer version, and it not LTS, so I think it is supported for 2 years (I might be remembering wrong though).  There is a new release every 6 months.
[10:11] <kunji> Arvendu: And a new LTS (Long Term Support) release every 2 years.
[10:12] <dydzEz2> !grub
[10:12] <Arvendu> but i do not want mess like crap windows 8 :( thats why i am asking :D which is good 12.04 or 12.10
[10:12] <kunji> Arvendu: They're both good ^_^
[10:12] <Arvendu> then let me try 12.10 :D
[10:13] <Arvendu> will mine wifi and other driver will automatically install ?
[10:13] <kunji> Arvendu: Usually, there are some cases where they do not, but they work out of the box on like 95% of the hardware I try these days.
[10:14] <kunji> Arvendu: Wireless is what people have trouble with most often
[10:14] <Threepwood> Arvendu: you can also try it via the live CD, I think
[10:14] <Arvendu> yea
[10:14] <Arvendu> i have dell 1525
[10:14] <Arvendu> which is a bit older
[10:15] <Tex_Nick> Arvendu:  you'll need to decide on a 32 or 64 bit version ... guess you have already looked at ... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:15] <Arvendu> yes i am downloading 32 bit or i386 iso
[10:15] <Arvendu> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:22] <Umair> Hi guys!
[10:25] <Tex_Nick> Umair : hello ... ask your question
[10:26] <Guest93646> Can I resize the root partition which  without uninstalling and reinstalling Linux (or losing data)?
[10:26] <Umair> Tex_Nick: I'm upto fresh Ubuntu 12.10 install on VM and need to set it up for Python dev so what should my next steps be? I need Python 2.7 with PyPy and VirtualEnv
[10:28] <sumit_> hi
[10:28] <Tex_Nick> Umair:  sorry i can't answer that question ... now that you've asked though ... maybe someone can help you :-)
[10:29] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have a script to redirect command outut to /dev/null like this    LOG=/dev/null && my_command >> $LOG, what value can i aasign to LOG to redirect it on screen
[10:30] <troulouliou_dev> >> 1 maybe ?
[10:30] <Kagliostro> hi everyone guys. I am running ubuntu 12.04 on ASUS P8z77-v with intel i7. Everything runs smoothly and it is a really good distro, however my sound is crackling all the time....very noisy...
[10:30] <Kagliostro> can someone help me?
[10:32] <dydzEz2> anyone run ubuntu on vmware
[10:32] <dydzEz2> know how to make grub show
[10:35] <Halite> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Quickly
[10:35] <Halite> let me try #quickly
[10:36] <ikonia> ubuntu quickly ?
[10:36] <uni4dfx> Is there a way to list all 32bit installed packages?
[10:37] <Umair> Tex_Nick: no worries let me try again with another question
[10:37] <Ben64> uni4dfx: "dpkg -l | grep 386" ?
[10:37] <Umair> So on ubuntu 12.10 after "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" how to install build-essentials so I may proceed to pyhton and its tools
[10:38] <uni4dfx> Ben64 yeah that works. thanks!
[10:38] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install build-essential :|
[10:39] <cscsaba> hello
[10:39] <Umair> Ben64: it gives me dependency error (dpkg needed but it is not going to be installed)
[10:39] <cscsaba> is there any good tablet to use Ubuntu and its command line ?
[10:40] <Ben64> Umair: then your system seems pretty broken
[10:43] <Umair> Ben64: yeah. see I just downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso from their site and installed it without installing any third-party software on VitualBox
[10:43] <Umair> what I don't understand is which of my step broke it?
[10:43] <piglit> how can i list everything that is in the PATH ?
[10:44] <kepler> env
[10:46] <ubuntu__> Can I resize the root partition without uninstalling and reinstalling Linux (or losing data)?
[10:47] <Halite> halp
[10:48] <Halite> #quickly is not in use
[10:49] <ZeXx86> I dont understand, why Ubuntu still offer 310 nvidia driver instead of 313 and its even in experimental
[10:49] <Halite> How can you hibernate a computer running Ubuntu
[10:50] <llutz> piglit:  ls -l  $(echo $PATH|sed 's/:/ /g')
[10:50] <Umair> Ben64: So how can I fix broken packages there?
[10:50] <Halite> !patience
[10:51] <Halite> How can you hibernate a computer running Ubuntu
[10:52] <Dead-i> Halite: There's a documentation article on it https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[10:53] <piglit> llutz thank you
[10:53] <piglit> when i want to use my usb port for a microcontroller flash device i get libusb:error [op_open] libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/003/002: Permission denied.  i need to change the permisions of the device what is the best way to do this?
[10:56] <humans63> !list
[10:59] <llutz> piglit: create an udev-rule to set gid/permissions
[11:00] <humans63> !lista
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> humans63  stop
[11:00] <llutz> piglit: like done here, adjust to your situation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1985915
[11:06] <jeyem> hi im new to ubuntu, just want to ask something
[11:06] <ikonia> jeyem: just ask
[11:07] <jeyem> i have a lenovo think pad, i tried installing the new VMw are and i did try everything in the ubuntu forums but i still get the message that my system doesnt support 64x
[11:10] <ranxi_> hello i have a problem with my graphic card. I am totally new to ubuntu. I was trying to install the proper ati drivers and it looks like i totally screwed up. Now i can't see my desktop. Going into terminal and this channel have been all i could do.
[11:11] <M4573R> .
[11:14] <M4573R> can i have" ntfs" partitions beside "ext4" partitions in gnu/linux?
[11:14] <theadmin> M4573R: Sure
[11:15] <theadmin> M4573R: You can't install to NTFS or FAT though (needs to be a UNIX filesystem), but you can access about any filesystem imaginable
[11:15] <theadmin> ranxi_: sudo apt-get remove fglrx\*
[11:15] <theadmin> ranxi_: That will roll you back to the default driver
[11:16] <jeyem> question admin, is there a way to install the new VMware even if my system doesnt support 64x
[11:16] <theadmin> jeyem: I dunno about VMWare. Why not use Virtualbox? It works fine on 32-bit systems.
[11:16] <ranxi_> can i do these without quitting irc?
[11:16] <kunji> ranxi: What did you do to try and install them?
[11:16] <theadmin> ranxi_: uh, sure, don't see why not
[11:17] <jeyem> i did but the backtrack linux distro doesnt have an image in virtualbox
[11:17] <M4573R> ...which is better?   (i mean for best performance  ) erase all my disk and change file system to "ext4"  or keep 2 partitions "ntfs" beside ?
[11:17] <theadmin> jeyem: Don't need one, just grab the ISO and boot the Virtualbox VM from it
[11:18] <kunji> ranxi: Can you view this page someplace?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/206228/compiz-has-broken-after-installing-12-10-with-ati-catalyst-12-10-drivers  If so, follow the directions for Uninstalling the ATI driver, assuming it was installed.
[11:18] <jeyem> thanks bro
[11:18] <theadmin> M4573R: ext4 performs better than NTFS for sure.
[11:19] <ranxi_> kunji: actually i have tried everything i have found on the issue. Including creating my debpackage which i have downloaded atis website.
[11:19] <M4573R> so you suggest ext4 file system for all disk?
[11:19] <kunji> ranxi: So your graphics is probably it really bad shape, so REMOVE the proprietary driver.
[11:20] <theadmin> M4573R: Depends on other things really. Does the disk need to be readable by Windows?
[11:20] <Umair> how to fix broken system packages on 12.10?
[11:20] <ranxi_> theadmin: how can i do this?
[11:20] <fatima> hello can anyone help me please?
[11:20] <theadmin> ranxi_: Just enter the command into any terminal you can access
[11:20] <Alocer> sudo apt-get install -f
[11:21] <ranxi_> kunji: and how should i do this?
[11:21] <Umair> Alocer: it says 2 no upgraded
[11:21] <kunji> ranxi: I linked the site, under the header Uninstall ATI driver,   sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fgl..... etc..
[11:22] <Alocer> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <M4573R> no i don't want to have windows!
[11:22] <fatima> I'm trying to enter the world f Ubuntu for the first time and I instaled it on an Asus A6, but now I'm not able to have wireless. Can Anyone help me?
[11:22] <Umair> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[11:22] <ranxi_> kunji: ok thanks. I am trying now.
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | fatima start here
[11:22] <Alocer> :X why wireless on ubuntu is to trouble some
[11:22] <Alocer> so*
[11:23] <jeyem> admin last question, my laptop uses a broadcom driver and i found out many of us are having problems in regards to wifi connection, we get disconnected every 20 - 30 mins. in the forums the ask us to change the router from N to b or g but nothing changes we still get disconnected
[11:23] <Umair> Alocer: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[11:23] <Umair> with update and upgrade
[11:23] <Alocer> ok sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:23] <M4573R> theadmin           .....i don't want to have windows ........i want just instal gnu/linux
[11:23] <theadmin> jeyem: Huh. I had no such problems with broadcom drivers... Dunno
[11:23] <kunji> ranxi: Also, one of the methods you tried may have been a working method, but may have failed because of changes made by things you had already tried that didn't work.  So for this kind of thing, try only one thing at a time, and make sure to undo everything before trying then next one.
[11:23] <theadmin> M4573R: Okay, then just make the whole drive ext4
[11:23] <jeyem> oh ok
[11:24] <theadmin> M4573R: Well, actually, better go for two ext4 partitions (/ and /home) and one swap.
[11:24] <M4573R> what about (/var) do you suggest ext4 for it?or something else?
[11:24] <Umair> Alocer: it's downloading those 2 missing packages
[11:24] <kunji> jeyem: Is that particular to 12.04?  Or rather the kernel in 12.04?
[11:25] <theadmin> M4573R: I don't see any reason to put /var on a separate filesystem, actually...
[11:25] <jeyem> kunji: i really dont know, tried everything i was able to read but it seems that nothing works.
[11:26] <kunji> jeyem: Were you searching for exactly your chip?
[11:26] <woo> How could I take a snapshot of my current operating system in order to restore it later?
[11:26] <jeyem> i was able to install the wireless firmware
[11:27] <Umair> Alocer: you think I'm good to do apt-get install build-essential now?
[11:27] <ranxi_> theadmin: i have tried and i received an error. It says "there are no instances of module fglrx.
[11:27] <kunji> woo: ddrescue or dd_rescue, umm, one of them is gnu ddrescue, both should work, the gnu version is a bit better.
[11:27] <opalepatrick> trying to copy windows docs from ntfs via ubuntu to external hard drive. If I drag and drop, it looks like its done the job, but plugged into a windows laptop there is just one file. I tried cp via terminal but get cp: omitting directory the one I want to copy) any ideas?
[11:27] <theadmin> opalepatrick: cp -r
[11:27] <M4573R> ok good ..............thanx
[11:27] <woo> ty kunji
[11:28] <opalepatrick> doh theadmin
[11:28] <kunji> jeyem: Right, but it's dropping, correct?
[11:28] <theadmin> ranxi_: Uh, that doesn't look like an error, more of a warning to me
[11:28] <jeyem> yes
[11:28] <theadmin> ranxi_: Try rebooting and see if it works now
[11:29] <jeyem> i tried restart the network-manager after i get disconnected, but its a fail
[11:29] <kunji> jeyem: Searching the exact device will make it much easier to find any existing bug report for the card, or if there is not one, then it is information that should be provided as part of a bug report
[11:29] <Umair> Alocer: tried installing build-essential and it's giving same error "Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5) but it is not going to be installed"
[11:30] <jeyem> kunji: ok ill search for that. thanks bro
[11:31] <ranxi_> theadmin: alright. I hope i will be back here if it does not work.
[11:31] <woo> kunji: so apt-get install ddrescue -> dd_rescue && apt-get install gddrescue -> ddrescue.  :)
[11:31] <kunji> jeyem: You can find the device in the output of lspci for pci cards, or in lsusb for dongles
[11:32] <kunji> woo: Oh, you don't need them both, I would go with just ddrescue
[11:32] <M4573R> theadmin ........and what a bout partitions if i want to have 2 distros...is it better that i installeach of them to 1 partition ( for example:ubuntu in /sda1 and arch in /sda2)with seperate " /home"?
[11:33] <M4573R> :)
[11:33] <woo> kunji: I used apt-get autoremove ddrescue and kept the gnu
[11:33] <theadmin> M4573R: The idea is to have different / and the same /home, actually, for example: /dev/sda1 -> arch's /, /dev/sda2 -> Ubuntu's /, /dev/sda3 -> /home (for both)
[11:33] <fatima> I'm not understanding how to do it!
[11:33] <woo> kunji: im on the gnu site learning about it.
[11:34] <theadmin> M4573R: That way you can keep application configuration across distros (browser bookmarks, history, etc)
[11:34] <M4573R> ok...nice
[11:34] <kunji> woo: That would be my preferred tool, there's lots of other stuff as well though
[11:34] <kunji> !backup | woo
[11:35] <M4573R> and if i want to remove on of distros   which is better (shared home....or seperate home)?
[11:35] <khussein78> can I run two applications using X over ssh tunnel
[11:35] <khussein78> at the same time
[11:35] <kunji> khussein78: yes
[11:35] <theadmin> M4573R: Won't matter
[11:36] <fatima> I'm trying to enter the world f Ubuntu for the first time and I instaled it on an Asus A6, but now I'm not able to have wireless. Can Anyone help me? Hi really don't know how to do it
[11:36] <theadmin> M4573R: There's nothing distro-specific at all stored in /home
[11:36] <woo> kunji: im going to use kickstart and ddrescue.  If I remember last time I used kickstart on an ubuntu machine I messed it up.
[11:37] <l057c0d3r> well..  grew a pair..  resized my windows partition...  installed a ubuntu minimal install...  and installed everything i wanted..
[11:37] <l057c0d3r> finally finished :-) fully custom splash/ grub / gdm / ext ext...
[11:37] <M4573R> good for you :)
[11:38] <l057c0d3r> thanks M4573R.. i now have a fully custom setup..  looking and running everything i want....  with the power of ubuntu and apt
[11:39] <M4573R> welcome to FREE WORLD :D
[11:41] <dimitry> lolo
[11:41] <dimitry> i am here
[11:42] <M4573R> tanx "theadmin" for information....and tanx for gave me your time
[11:45] <dimitry> anybody use this chanel for conversasion? or just for testing your irc client?)))))
[11:45] <M4573R> we love to learn....we share our Knowledge....we are   LINUX       :D
[11:45] <marahin> people rather use it for answering ubuntu users / newbies questions
[11:45] <M4573R> i'm a noob too!
[11:45] <gvo> ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[11:46] <gvo> dimitry: ^^^
[11:46] <marahin> ↑ even.
[11:46] <marahin> :)
[11:46] <Umair> no one answers my questions at fullest :(
[11:46] <marahin> Umair, try to ask it in a different way then?
[11:46] <dimitry> ok ok ok
[11:48] <Umair> let me try again. I need to install a python package which can be installed with PyPy but it gives me gcc error
[11:48] <Umair> I read I need build-essential for that but then build-essential gives me dependency errors dpkg
[11:49] <gvo> Umair: ubuntu version?
[11:49] <Umair> 12.10 (quantal) i386
[11:50] <Jpmh> I am running lubuntu from a memory stick - it tells me that it is 11:49 because I have not set the timezone, I assume.  How di I set it.  I am in Denver CO which  is on Mountaint time
[11:50] <gvo> Have you done a apt-get update recently?
[11:50] <moe> hello world
[11:50] <Umair> I have done apt-get update and upgrade like a ton times
[11:50] <Guest72577> I'm a noob looking to get help with my ubuntu 12.10
[11:51] <Guest72577> any one who can help?
[11:51] <gvo> Umair: Have you edited your sources.list?
[11:51] <Umair> I haven't edited sources.list but I have taken a look at it
[11:51] <Umair> there are links without #
[11:51] <Halite> Helloo
[11:51] <lasers> Guest72577: We're waiting for real questions.
[11:51] <martinPL> hi! I have this problem, I copied some files with command line, and they have invalid permissions - I need to change their permissions - I can list them all with "find . -type f -user username" but I dont know how to pass the result to "chmod 664 RESULTS", can you suggest me a solution for that? (btw the list is very long...)
[11:52] <Halite> I like Ubuntu
[11:52] <Guest72577> ok I have problems with libflac++6:amd64
[11:52] <gvo> Umair: As a last resort, you could use  dkpg adding --ignore-depends
[11:52] <jonah> hi can anyone help, I've just rebooted and now anytime I use sudo I get this error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:53] <day> i installed ubuntu 12.10. after installing the restricted graphic driver + restart i get a pretty low monitor resolution + all i see is the desktop background. no docks/menues nothing. does anyone know whats wrong?
[11:53] <jonah> but as far as I know nothign else is using admin rights...
[11:53] <Guest72577> almost everything i do on terminal returns errors Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:53] <Guest72577>  libflac++6:amd64
[11:53] <theadmin> jonah: That has nothing to do with sudo... You sure you don't mean apt-get?
[11:53] <Umair> gvo: can you tell me why this is happening because ignoring depends is not a good option I think
[11:53] <gvo> Umair: But it could break something.
[11:53] <jonah> theadmin: Hi yes but I mean I can't install anything as it says something already has the admin lock
[11:54]  * Halite happy
[11:54] <gvo> Umair: I can't say for sure.   I haven't run across it, but then Im not running 12.10
[11:54] <Guest72577> lasers?
[11:54] <Umair> gvo: which version are you running?
[11:54] <day> gvo: what are you running?
[11:54] <gvo> 12.04 and 10.04
[11:54] <jonah> theadmin: also does it with aptitude, so something has locked my dpkg...
[11:54] <lasers> martinPL: With find's -exec *command* -- Maybe? Or use xargs.
[11:54] <Umair> gvo: which is better of them?
[11:55] <theadmin> jonah: Try removing that file (sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock) and then running sudo apt-get -f install
[11:55] <Guest72577> lasers?
[11:55] <day> gvo: yeah the longterm version work really well.
[11:55] <Guest72577> any one?
[11:55] <gvo> Umair: Both are lts 12.04 is newer if you replace Unity with something reasonable.
[11:55] <gvo> day yes
[11:55] <Guest72577> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:55] <Guest72577>  libflac++6:amd64
[11:56] <Guest72577> that's my problem
[11:56] <Guest72577> what do i do?
[11:56] <Umair> I will try 12.04 now then
[11:56] <gvo> Umair: If you plan on running it for a while stay with an lts.  It's supported for 5 years (12.04 is)
[11:56] <yeehaw> Guest72577: Could you paste the complete log?
[11:56] <Guest72577> ok
[11:57] <yeehaw> Guest72577:  Via paste.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <kunji> martinPL: Are all the files in one folder?
[11:57] <Umair> yeah. I'm likely to use it for a while
[11:57] <day> i installed ubuntu 12.10. after installing the restricted graphic driver + restart i get a pretty low monitor resolution + all i see is the desktop background. no docks/menues nothing. does anyone know whats wrong?
[11:57] <Umair> but if it works that's what I want
[11:57] <Guest72577> moe@moe-Ubuntu12:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:57] <Guest72577> Reading package lists... Done
[11:57] <Guest72577> Building dependency tree
[11:57] <Guest72577> Reading state information... Done
[11:57] <Guest72577> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[11:57] <FloodBot1> Guest72577: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <Guest72577>   linux-headers-3.5.0-17
[11:58] <ikonia> Guest72577: that's not "everything you do" that's a very specific commmand
[11:58] <jonah> theadmin: hi thanks, that's got it unlocked but now when I do sudo apt-get intall phpmyadmin I get this error: error processing phpmyadmin (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1. debconf: DbDriver "templatedb": /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[11:58] <Umair> you know why Ubuntu will never compete with Mac OS X? It's because things doesn't work out of documentation like they work on Mac OS X.
[11:58] <jonah> theadmin: debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat is locked by another process
[11:58] <ikonia> Guest72577: and PLEASE use a pastebin as you've been asked
[11:58] <yeehaw> day: Try fully updating 12.10
[11:58] <martinPL> kunji, no, the files are in a whole structure (many folders with subfolders)
[11:58] <theadmin> jonah: Well, woah. This is messed up...
[11:58] <jonah> theadmin: is that bad?
[11:58] <theadmin> jonah: Not quite sure what to do.
[11:58] <kunji> martinPL: Are they all under one top level folder though?
[11:59] <day> yeehaw: i apt-get update/upgrade the system right after the fresh install
[11:59] <theadmin> Anyway, I gotta go now.
[11:59] <jonah> theadmin: ok thanks anyway
[11:59] <kunji> martinPL: Or a few?  Because then you could run chmod recursively
[11:59] <day> did*
[11:59] <ikonia> Guest72577: you've been unmuted now
[11:59] <Halite> why are there 3 flood bots
[12:00] <ikonia> because that's how many is needed to run the channel
[12:00] <yeehaw> day: I had the same problem initially, you can use ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal an do sudo apt-get update -qq && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[12:00] <Halite> my
[12:00] <martinPL> kunji, oh, I thought of that, but I cannot use this, within the structure there are also other files that I dont want to edit - I only what to edit those of particular user
[12:00] <kunji> martinPL: Hmm, and you already have the list of file names?
[12:01] <Guest72577> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632764/
[12:01] <Guest88890> hello
[12:01] <day> yeehaw: what would that change? ive already updated everything :/
[12:01] <Guest88890> i need help
[12:01] <ikonia> Guest72577: right, so lets get some facts first
[12:01] <Guest88890> can you see this page mzt-chiwas.sytes.net
[12:01] <Guest88890> ?
[12:01] <ikonia> Guest72577: is it "every command" as you first said, or is it just when you try to use apt-get
[12:01] <ikonia> Guest88890: why ?
[12:02] <Guest88890> mmm
[12:02] <Guest72577> hold on let me try ikonia
[12:02] <Guest88890> hey
[12:02] <marahin> kunji, he said that he can list the files he need to change with find.
[12:02] <Guest88890> okey
[12:02] <Guest88890> ok
[12:02] <yeehaw> day: please post the output of the following commands to paste.ubuntu.com: dpkg -l | egrep -i 'nvidia|fglrx'
[12:02] <Guest88890> gracias
[12:02] <ikonia> Guest88890: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[12:02] <M4573R> .
[12:02] <yeehaw> day: And what videocard do you have?
[12:02] <Helmuthonian> Hi, I try to install the connman-0.78. But after running .\configure I get the dependency failed on DBUS. But aptitude gives me DBUS is installed.
[12:02] <kunji> marahin: Thanks, I missed that part
[12:02] <marahin> "I can list them all with "find . -type f -user username" but I dont know how to pass the result to "chmod 664 RESULTS""
[12:02] <day> yeehaw: nvidia gtx 660
[12:02] <marahin> kunji, np.
[12:03] <Guest88890> what is?
[12:03] <Guest88890> help
[12:03] <gvo> Helmuthonian: I suspect you're missing a development package.
[12:03] <Guest72577> it happens with apt-get
[12:04] <Helmuthonian> gvo: oooo I'll try this thanks
[12:04] <gvo> Helmuthonian: Look for a xxx-dev where xxx is the dbus lib/program that's missing.
[12:04] <kunji> martinPL:Well this isn't the best way I'm sure, but you could use sed to turn that list into a file containing lines that each say: chmod 664 filename;  Then make the file executable and run it to change the permissions.
[12:04] <ikonia> Guest72577: right, so that's a different question than what you asked
[12:05] <gvo> Helmuthonian: Usually when ./configure throws an error its a missing -dev package.
[12:05] <yeehaw> Guest72577: Did you try an apt-get update before installing?
[12:05] <Guest72577> ok how do i fix it
[12:05] <Guest72577> ?
[12:05] <Guest72577> yes i tried that
[12:05] <ikonia> Guest72577: have you run the auto-remove as the error suggested ?
[12:05] <Guest72577> yes i tried
[12:05] <martinPL> kunji, I have just tried the find -exec and it seems to work - the file list is really long so it hasnt finished yet, but no errors so far ;) thanks for the help
[12:05] <Guest72577> didnt work
[12:06] <M4573R> in gnu/linux partitioning we have /root.. /home.. /var ..  i know this... but i don;t know where should i keep  "for exmaple my musics".......in home or different seperate partition?
[12:06] <Guest88890> ikonia: Gracias!
[12:06] <ikonia> Guest72577: I don't see that in your pastebin
[12:06] <kunji> martinPL: Ah, that seems like a better way, nice ^_^
[12:06] <yeehaw> M4573R: In /home/username/
[12:06] <Guest72577> line 430
[12:07] <Helmuthonian> gvo: Thanks I install now libedbus-dev and run .\config again. Thanks for help
[12:07] <ikonia> Guest72577: ok, did you try to re-install libflac++6 as the error said
[12:07] <Guest72577> i tried too
[12:07] <Guest72577> line 392
[12:08] <gvo> Helmuthonian: By the way it's ./configure
[12:08] <gvo> ./config
[12:08] <Star_Light> Is there any person who is responsible about the rooms here?
[12:08] <gvo> No backslash
[12:08] <ikonia> Star_Light: what's the problem
[12:08] <Star_Light> ikonia I have an unfair ban from one channel
[12:08] <Star_Light> one year ago
[12:08] <ikonia> Guest72577: so try removing libflac++6:amd64 and ubuntu kernel channel
[12:08] <makara> hi. again with Nautilus, 2 things. It is possible to hide the folder pane instead of the tree pane?
[12:08] <yeehaw> Guest72577: You could try purging it, with dpkg --purge libflac++6:amd64
[12:08] <ikonia> Star_Light: if you join #ubuntu-ops we can talk about it
[12:09] <Star_Light> ok thank you
[12:09] <Guest72577> how do i remove libflac and kernel channel?
[12:09] <kunji> ikonia: I thought #freenode dealt with that stuff?
[12:09] <Star_Light> I am going to ubuntu-ops
[12:09] <ikonia> kunji: not the ubuntu channels, no
[12:09] <ikonia> Guest72577: just put them on one line for remove of purge
[12:10] <M4573R> so i should divide my Disk to these : dev/sda1/(root & boot & /var  )        dev/sda2 (home)   no needed seperate partitions for keeping our files?
[12:10] <kunji> ikonia: Generally I mean, it wasn't clear to me it was an Ubuntu channel he was talking about.
[12:10] <ikonia> kunji: me neither, but we'll find out when he joins #ubuntu-ops
[12:10] <kunji> ikonia: yeps ^_^
[12:10] <yeehaw> M4573R: What are you planning on using Ubuntu for? As a Desktop?
[12:10] <Guest72577> tried purge returns error
[12:10] <ikonia> M4573R: /root should not be a seperate partition
[12:10] <Guest72577> package is in a very bad incosistent state
[12:11] <M4573R> so what ikonia.........?
[12:11] <ikonia> Guest72577: try running it through the gui
[12:11] <ikonia> M4573R: so don't put it on a sepreate partition
[12:11] <Guest72577> which gui?
[12:11] <ikonia> Guest72577: whatever package manager gui you are using
[12:11] <Guest72577> ok thanks let me try
[12:12] <Star_Light> ikonia,  there is no one in the room :(
[12:12] <gvo> Guest72577: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
[12:12] <ikonia> Star_Light: try again
[12:12] <ikonia> Star_Light: yes there is, it's #ubuntu-ops
[12:12] <Guest72577> GUI cant remove it either
[12:13] <makara> and why whenever I open Nautilus does the name column always expand way off to the right. I always have to scroll and reduce
[12:14] <gvo> Guest72577: Try that
[12:14] <gvo> makara: Do you have a very long name in the list?
[12:15] <M4573R> ikonia ......... i have a disk...right? and i want to have just ubuntu(and not alongside with windows) sould i have seperated partitions for keeping  my files or this is not necessary?
[12:16] <ikonia> M4573R: totally up to you
[12:16] <ikonia> pros/cons to both
[12:16] <M4573R> which way is better?
[12:16] <Guest72577> thanks very much ikonia it worked
[12:16] <ikonia> M4573R: totally up to you
[12:16] <Guest72577> and thanks gvo
[12:16] <ikonia> Guest72577: it was gvo that helped
[12:16] <Guest72577> ok thanks both of you :)
[12:17] <yeehaw> ikonia: What cons are there to using seperate partitions? I think it would be advisable to keep /home on a separate partition at least
[12:18] <makara> gvo, kindof
[12:18] <kunji> M4573R: I would recommend it myself, for two reasons.  It can simplify backing up just your user data, and if you're installing more than one distro they can share the same /home partition.
[12:18] <wdp> yeehaw, ack.
[12:18] <ikonia> yeehaw: totally up to you
[12:18] <ikonia>  /home should not be shared between different distros
[12:18] <gvo> makara: it's doing a resize based on the length of the file name.  Rename the file.
[12:18] <ikonia> the different versions of gnome and shells in /home should not be shared
[12:19] <makara> gvo, when I go to another folder it doesn't resize the column again
[12:19] <makara> gvo, but sometimes it does. Inconsistent
[12:19] <kunji> ikonia: Oh, hmm, interesting
[12:19] <mirak> hi
[12:19] <mirak> i changed my cdrom drive, and now it seems it's referenced as /dev/cdrom1 instead of /dev/cdrom
[12:20] <disharmonic> Well the con for separate partitions is that it's harder to manage your diskspace that way.
[12:21] <gvo> makara: Sounds like a bug.
[12:21] <yeehaw> ikonia: Ok, I see your point.
[12:21] <kunji> ikonia: You mean for the same DE right?  Because for different ones I don't see how it would be different than having multiple DEs installed on one distro.
[12:21] <makara> it would be great if I could set the column size no matter what the content. I want an explorer that feels solid.
[12:22] <ikonia> kunji: doesn't have to be the de - the .profile for the shell, the .compiz directory etc etc
[12:23] <makara> trying to resize the tree pane is also a pain. The new space-saving scrollbar keeps popping up
[12:23] <kunji> ikonia: Hmm, I see what you mean
[12:23] <matlock> guys, i got ubuntu up on an eeepad
[12:23] <Jpmh> I have a running ubuntu system.  I have a working usb stick with lubuntu which seems rather good.  How do I install it side by side with my ubuntu on my hard drive?
[12:23] <matlock> but it's the SL 101, and the onboard keyboard don't work
[12:23] <matlock> any help?
[12:26] <yeehaw> matlock: If I look at the other people on the internet who have tried it, your probably out of luck. What does lsusb give you? (via paste.ubuntu.com please)
[12:27] <matlock> heh
[12:27] <matlock> can't internet on it
[12:27] <matlock> but it's just got the root hub
[12:28] <yeehaw> matlock: Do you have any information about how it's connected?
[12:28] <woo> why are static repos for fedora .gov's?
[12:28] <matlock> no clue, lshw doesn't show much either
[12:29] <matlock> doesn't even show the wifi right now..
[12:30] <matlock> tis okay, i'm on xda-developers askin the same, probably get better luck there, there are a few others with an SL101 too.
[12:30] <Guest74003> I FEEL Linux is very very Hard compared to Windows
[12:30] <bastidra1or> there is a learning curve.
[12:31] <Guest74003> That's why.If i use Windows it's not like that....All user need to learn Linux
[12:31] <woo> Guest74003: I feel Windows is a lot harder for me.  It has so many requirments to run properly
[12:31] <kunji> Guest74003: I feel you've never tried installing Windows....
[12:31] <yeehaw> matlock: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28379/where-are-android-drivers-located-in-the-system Says that you would probably need to recompile the keyboard driver in the kernel
[12:31] <yeehaw> matlock: You will probably need help from xda-developers indeed then
[12:31] <Malinuss> "next - next - next " - windows installed
[12:32] <Guest74003> i have installed windows serveral times
[12:32] <kunji> Malinuss:And it wrote over your MBR without asking
[12:32] <F1skr> Do you people use a ppa to install catalyst drivers or do just get it from amd.com ?
[12:32] <kunji> Malinuss:And that's assuming you didn't need some other driver
[12:32] <matlock> hmm, i wonder if there's anything to the Linux4Tegra associated with this then.. thx for the thread man!!
[12:33] <kunji> F1skr: I typically use the driver in the repos, unless there was a security fix, or some particular reason I should use a newer driver than that.
[12:34] <woo> I had a problem I didnt fix today took someone eles.  new asrock board. win couldnt read ssd raid 1. fedo 18 popped right up :)  sorry for the ot.  Guest74003 might want to try ubuntu-offtopic for more windows bashing fun.
[12:35] <Guest74003> And Linux is really Confusing and Boring since all the end-user need to know all
[12:36] <OerHeks> Guest74003 do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[12:37] <kunji> OerHeks: Even if he does, he's intentionally trolling (my opinion, but quite likely).
[12:37] <yeehaw> Guest74003: Untrue, If you configure it properly everyone could work with Ubuntu
 what to configure
[12:37] <kunji> Guest74003: My grandma uses Ubuntu
 O^o
[12:38] <16WAAEUPB> My grandma uses AIX.
[12:38] <kunji> Guest74003: Only configuring I had to do was enlarge the mouse cursor so she could see it better.
[12:38] <woo> kunji: http://garbledzombie.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/your-grandma-can-do-it/linux-motivational-poster/
[12:39] <kunji> woo: That site isn't loading for me T.T
[12:39] <woo> :(
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:40] <kunji> woo: Ah, there it goes ^_^
[12:40] <Guest74003> my bro work all day in ubuntu dev s/w some point in time got some cash from US Govt ...For me Where to Start ?!
[12:40] <matlock> just wondering, can i pull the modules from the source of the android kernel and compile it for ubuntu?
[12:40] <kunji> Guest74003: Sounds like you should ask your bro
 I thought this a open chat room ...Who will help beginners
[12:42] <yeehaw> matlock: I'm no developer, but it should be possible. I think you would have dependency problems because of different versions e.g..
[12:42] <matlock> kay
[12:42] <mand_> Hi, how can I remove entries from the Unity launcher? Somehow it imported old gnome panel custom launchers during upgrade and now is too stupid to keep them apart
[12:42] <kunji> Guest74003: It is, but you should really have a particular question in mind.  I would say it's more of a support channel than open chat, open chat would be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:42] <woo> Guest74003: try #freenode to set up your username and password for IRC
[12:42] <mand_> eg. I start a gnome terminal and it thinks I started a custom vnc session
[12:43] <mand_> Just because my custom VNC launcher also uses Gnome terminal
[12:43] <Guest74003> :)
[12:43] <16WAAEUPB> I believe that Android uses a forked Linux kernel and I'm not really sure they're fully compatible at all.
[12:44] <kunji> matlock: Why would you want to do that?  It's possible, but the devices would be ARM, so what good would compiling them amd64 or i386 do?  Unless there's a particular piece of hardware from your phone you want to use on your desktop install.
[12:44] <matlock> well Linux for Tegra uses the 12.04 filesystem, and I'm wondering if that would help me at all.. or if i'm barking up the wrong tree.
[12:44] <16WAAEUPB> 12.04 filesystem?..
[12:44] <matlock> yea.. hold on
[12:44] <16WAAEUPB> What's that supposed to mean? =)
[12:44] <matlock> https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
[12:44] <disharmonic> You mean ext4 by that?
[12:45] <matlock> Sample file system (derived from Ubuntu 12.04, "Precise Pangolin")
[12:45] <Guest74003> Guys where to start learning Linux ..How to work on it ??...Is there any Class ..Like that :)
[12:45] <stakt> so, I just did a typo in a chroot enviro "yum install yum install" now yum is hosed.  I went to mirror site and tried to rpm -ivh yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm but it fails
[12:45] <kunji> matlock: Wrong tree pal
[12:45] <matlock> i know technically it's unsupported here,
[12:45] <stakt> error: yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID c105b9de: BAD
[12:45] <stakt> error: yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm cannot be installed
[12:46] <makara> gvo, Marlin looks cool. It lays out thumbnails much better
[12:46] <kunji> matlock: I'm pretty sure they are referring to the machine you're going to use to flash the device
[12:46] <matlock> no
[12:46] <stakt> any idea on how to repair w/o rebuild the chroot?
[12:46] <kunji> matlock: Can you link it for me then?
[12:46] <matlock> they're talking about installing ubuntu on tegra devices
[12:46] <matlock> link is above, the nvidia one
[12:47] <OerHeks> stakt, try #centos
[12:47] <matlock> I know there's a driver package there too, but not sure if it includes modules specific for the eeepad (most likely not)
[12:47] <yeehaw> makara: No, they are talking about installing linux on tegra devices. They happen too use the Ubuntu filesystem, but that's not kernel related. So that would not help you with the driver
[12:47] <kunji> matlock: Oh, that, still you would not recompile for that usually.  That should be compiled for ARM, and recompiling for Ubuntu to run on that device would still be ARM
[12:47] <16WAAEUPB> matlock, they're talking about installing their own Linux flavor using a host running Ubuntu.
[12:47] <matlock> no
[12:47] <makara> yeehaw, ok
[12:47] <klaatu_> ma cosa cazzo è
[12:47] <kunji> matlock: The ubuntu team right now is also using the android kernel for ubuntu installs on devices, and hence the same modules
[12:48] <matlock> they're talking about installing ubuntu 12.04 on tegra devices, using ubuntu as the host
[12:48] <kunji> matlock: http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/13/02/07/1745220/ces-jono-bacon-talks-up-ubuntu-for-phones-video
[12:48] <yeehaw> makara: Sorry, I linked the wrong person
[12:48] <kunji> matlock: That's what I said -_-
[12:49] <matlock> 16WAAEUPB, their 'own linux flavor' is 'based on' ubuntu 12.04
[12:49] <tapas> hi, is it normal that nepomuk uses 2GiB or more disk space?
[12:50] <kunji> matlock: sure, but I'll bet they're using the android kernel, for the same reason the Ubuntu team is.  Even if not, then they're using the right one for what they're doing.
[12:51] <matlock> i'm currently using the 2.6 ubuntu kernel
[12:51] <matlock> on my eeepad
[12:51] <jimi_> Anyone know how to install ncurses php support
[12:51] <yeehaw> matlock: Can't you use the android kernel?
[12:51] <matlock> they also have the 3.1 kernel but that method isn't working correctly right now
[12:51] <kunji> matlock: Isn't the eeepad x86?
[12:51] <matlock> it's arm
[12:51] <matlock> arm7
[12:52] <iceroot> is there an easy way to see the licence of a package with apt-get?
[12:52] <kunji> matlock: Oh, ok, now I think I see what you're doing
[12:53] <kunji> matlock: I'm not sure what version of ARM the Cardhu and Ventana are, so you might need to compile yourself, but the modules should run.
[12:54] <kunji> matlock: More or less that is, there may be some device specific tweeking involved
[12:54] <datsmoida> you guys have any idea about after i upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 mysql is running properly but i cannot log in to phpmyadmin
[12:55] <theadmin> iceroot: See the answer to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247757/how-do-you-find-the-licenses-for-everything-installed-on-your-system
[12:55] <kunji> tapas: probably, but I don't recall for sure
[12:55] <theadmin> iceroot: Not too "easy" but... yeah.
[12:56] <disharmonic> iceroot: well apt-cache doesn't display licensing info. Not sure if there is a way
[12:56] <OerHeks> iceroot " apt-cache show python " does not show license info, so i think apt-get won't show either
[12:56] <16WAAEUPB> datsmoida, I'd start with checking the place where phpmyadmin stores it's authentication data.
[12:57] <theadmin> iceroot: The license info for installed packages can generally be found in /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE/copyright
[12:57] <OerHeks> iceroot,  "The Debian control file has no field for a license title. License details for a package foo should be given in the /usr/share/doc/<foo>/copyright file" found @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/88403/how-to-list-all-my-packages-from-command-line-which-can-show-package-name-licen
[12:58] <OerHeks> should be fixed, if you ask me
[12:58] <kunji> iceroot: License info is often in the man page as well
[12:58] <jonah> hi does anyone know what the correct path syntax is for testing on a localhost. For example I have a website with a config.php file which I want to test locally. I've changed all refereneces to the site addrress to just be 'localhost' and then further down it has paths such as /home/public_html/system which I've tried changing to just be /system and also tried localhost/system but at the moment I'm just getting a white blank screen so
[12:58] <jonah> defo got something wrong
[12:58] <theadmin> iceroot: If that's of any help, the "vrms" tool can help detect any non-free software installed on your system.
[12:58] <disharmonic> OerHeks: i agree, it should be included in apt-cache showpkg
[12:59] <iceroot> kunji: i need a generic way for all installed packages to see if they are GNU related to find out how much GNU/Linux is in Ubuntu :) i guess i will write a script to parse the local files
[12:59] <iceroot> so that we will see x% of all installed default packages are GNU
[13:00] <kunji> iceroot: Ah regexs and sed?  Fun times
[13:00] <arand> iceroot: You can use the "cupt" package manager instead, "cupt copyright packagename".
[13:00] <iceroot> kunji: because of that i asked for an easy way with apt-get and so on :)
[13:00] <iceroot> arand: thanks that sounds interesting
[13:01] <kunji> iceroot: Hmm, which do you count as a default system?  With or without the checkbox for the nonfree packages?
[13:01] <iceroot> kunji: a default ubuntu 12.04 unity installation
[13:01] <16WAAEUPB> Or you could write your own package manager! Now this is fun times.
[13:02] <kunji> iceroot: Yeah, but they ask during the install, also about encryption and lvm, so I think you can end up with a few different sets of packages.
[13:03] <iceroot> kunji: that is not a default installation
[13:03] <iceroot> kunji: imo
[13:03] <arand> iceroot: I wouldn't suggest using cupt for normal package management though, but it's handy for that prticular thing.
[13:03] <kunji> iceroot: Maybe the livecd is a better reference?
[13:03] <Guest74003> Only some new Linux in my Area.It's very hard if i get Stuck
[13:03] <iceroot> kunji: but normally i guess the best would be to grep the complete main-repo
[13:03] <iceroot> arand: i think so too
[13:04] <Malinuss> hello. So I installed ubuntu "mini". And after that I installed the gnome-desktop, or was it unity-desktop? I don't remember, neverless, it looks completly like the "normal" ubunut installation. Now, is there actually any software that isn't installed there, that is installed with the normal ubuntu installation?
[13:04] <iceroot> Malinuss: depending which package you installed for your desktop, if it was ubuntu-desktop  you will have the same packages as a normal installation
[13:05] <Malinuss> iceroot, I think it might have been ubuntu-desktop. So right now, my installation is precisly the same, as if I just used the "normal" installation?
[13:05] <iceroot> Malinuss: yes
[13:06] <Malinuss> I see, thanks
[13:06] <iceroot> Malinuss: the normal installation is "ubuntu-minimal", "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop"
[13:06] <iceroot> Malinuss: you are missing ubuntu-desktop on the minimal-installation
[13:07] <iceroot> Malinuss: maybe minimal will be not using ubuntu-base  but ubuntu-desktop will pull that package, so its the same at the end
[13:11] <GermainZ|Phone> Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?
[13:11] <lersch> Question. I am using open() to create a file and posix_fallocate() to allocate 8GB in this file. When the file is created, it says the size is 8.6 GB. I do not understand why the difference. Any ideas?
[13:12] <jimi_> lersch, because _fallocate is short for fallacy create
[13:13] <lersch> what do you mean?
[13:13] <jimi_> lersch, it was a joke.... "fallacy" meaning lie.... and well... create meaning create..... lol, because the output lied to you :P
[13:13] <lersch> british humor, I see
[13:14] <lersch> :)
[13:15] <ioria> lersch: from the latin 'fallacius' :-P
[13:16] <theadmin> lersch: This isn't an Ubuntu question, this is a question for whatever programming language you are using.
[13:21] <isaias> hi
[13:22] <isaias> How do I login?
[13:23] <isaias> is this supposed to automatically log me in?
[13:23] <GermainZ|Phone> Login where, isaias
[13:23] <MusikPolice> Hi guys, quick question here if anybody is available: I installed ubuntu 12.10 LTS headless server and then installed the unity desktop as a secondary step. It seems to have given me a minimal install, and the clock and indicator applets in the top-right hand corner of the desktop are missing. What packages do i need to restore this functionality?
[13:23] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: On here. I can't seem to join ##c++
[13:24] <GermainZ|Phone>  /join ##c++
[13:24] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: It sends me to ##overflow
[13:25] <GermainZ|Phone> Any errors?
[13:25] <ioria> isaias: i think it requires registration
[13:25] <pranav> when i use sensors in bash, it gives me 2 adapter. virtual and ISA adapter. what is the difference ?
[13:25] <GermainZ|Phone> If you're already registered (/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER)...
[13:26] <GermainZ|Phone> Oh, you're not. Use that command, then.
[13:26] <isaias> ioria: I already registered I was connected there a few days ago
[13:26] <arand> iceroot: I gave the cupt suggestion with examples on askubuntu as well.
[13:26] <GermainZ|Phone> Are you identified, then?
[13:26] <khussein78> I tried to run vbox over X tunnel over ssh but i got this error
[13:26] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: what do you mean?
[13:26] <GermainZ|Phone> Use this command: /msg NickServ HELP IDENTIFY
[13:26] <khussein78> http://pastebin.com/YKBKcFvf
[13:27] <pranav> when i use sensors in bash, it gives me 2 adapter. virtual and ISA adapter. what is the difference ?
[13:29] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: thank you!
[13:29] <GermainZ|Phone> You're welcome! Usually this kind of support is better asked at #help, btw.
[13:29] <pranav> i used to add many stuffs in gnome top panel by right clicking and "add to panel" but does unity lacks this feature. there is a menu instead ?
[13:30] <MusikPolice> pranav i'm having that problem as well
[13:30] <Malinuss> iceroot, okay, thanks for the clearing up. One last thing - so after installing the minimal installation, but I want the "desktop ubuntu" look, without all the software. How would I go about that? Install gnome and what more?
[13:30] <theadmin> pranav: There's no such functionality in Unity, yes, applets are deprecated by GNOME3 in general. If you want functionality similar to GNOME 2, I suggest using Xubuntu (or just installing Xfce)
[13:31] <MusikPolice> Malinuss: I've selectively installed the packages that I need, but also found a helpful guide here http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/to-do-list-after-installing-ubuntu-12-10-aka-quantal-quetzal/
[13:31] <GermainZ|Phone> (reposting because a bunch of new people logged in) [15:11] (GermainZ|Phone) Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?
[13:31] <MusikPolice> theadmin: what about the clock and widgets that appear in the top right-hand corner of a stock install? I've done a stripped down install of the desktop, and those weren't included
[13:31] <pranav> theadmin: MusikPolice hope it comes the next version :)
[13:31] <theadmin> pranav: Will not.
[13:32] <theadmin> pranav: The GNOME team got rid of applets because they want to provide simplicity and beleive too many options confuse users... and probably because  they smoke something really strong, too :/
[13:32] <theadmin> pranav: Just use Xfce, it's great and looks and works almost exactly like gnome2
[13:33] <pranav> but then again the left panel in unity is so useful for stacking many icons
[13:33] <MusikPolice> theadmin, pravnav: sounds about right. but there are some applets up there. not application specific, but for network, battery, the user menu etc. what package is that in?
[13:33] <GermainZ|Phone> You can do the same in xfce
[13:33] <arand> theadmin: It's pretty easy to add custom applets via extensions though.
[13:33] <GermainZ|Phone> You need to add a desk bar panel if I'm not mistaken
[13:33] <theadmin> MusikPolice: Look at the packages starting with "indicator-" for those. For instance, the clock is indicator-datetime
[13:33] <MusikPolice> i basically just want my clock back, and the logout/shutdown buttons
[13:34] <MusikPolice> theadmin: thank you, i'll look into those
[13:34] <pranav> theadmin: "indicator-" ok :)
[13:34] <pranav> will also try xfce desktop again..
[13:35] <pokkerface> hi all, could anyone got working sopcast or maze in ubuntu 12.10?
[13:35] <theadmin> pranav: Those still don't provide the exact same functionality as gnome2 applets. Seriously, for a similar feel, just use Xfce.  What am I supposed to do now?
[13:36] <pranav> theadmin: i was a fan of lightweight xfce like 3 years before. i will try it. thanks again :)
[13:36] <theadmin> pranav: :) There's a version of Ubuntu that comes with Xfce preinstalled, it's called Xubuntu -- works great for me, it's the one I use. Took a while to get U1 working on Xfce though but I got that as well :)
[13:38] <pranav> theadmin: yup, xubuntu was the only option for me back with 256MB ram :P
[13:38] <theadmin> pranav: Ouch, that sounds pretty evil
[13:38] <GermainZ|Phone> I have xubuntu with 8gb of ram
[13:38] <GermainZ|Phone> =O
[13:38] <theadmin> GermainZ|Phone: Heh, 6 here.
[13:42] <pranav> GermainZ|Phone:  i can't wait to see the functionalities. *installing* =)
[13:42] <Em_> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?
[13:44] <TrolLlet> Hey everyone.. i have a question.. is there any way to start windows from within ubuntu? then i do NOT mean special programs or virtual boxing.. i mean to BOOT windows from within ubuntu itself?
[13:44] <Gr0tB4gz> anybody know the release date for the ubuntu phone software?'
[13:45] <GermainZ|Phone> October I think
[13:45] <war59312> anyone have any ideas for why usb mouse and keyboard not working even though both show up in lsusb and both work if I use a live cd...
[13:45] <pranav> don't you guys think that "launcher" in unity is quicker to navigate then "cairo-dock" in gnome ? views any.. i mean using the touchpad..
[13:45] <Guest21939> ciao
[13:45] <Em_> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?
[13:45] <Guest21939> !LIST
[13:46] <arand> TrolLlet: You can set the default grub selection for next boot, if that's waht you mean?
[13:47] <pranav> don't you guys think that "launcher" in unity is quicker to navigate then "cairo-dock" in gnome using touchpad ? *any views* ?
[13:47] <TrolLlet> then that means i need to manually reboot?
[13:47] <Gr0tB4gz> anyone have any idea if the ubuntu phone software will work with samsung galaxy s3??
[13:47] <Jpmh> how would I install lubuntu side by side with ubuntu on my hard drive.  It looks good from the memory stick but would like to try the next step before final switch
[13:48] <TrolLlet> and then it changes to windows instead of ubuntu? (that does sound like something im thinking of)
[13:48] <pranav> and for a widescreen, its just too good :D
[13:49] <Sagitt> hi all
[13:49] <Sagitt> there is a way to automatic install all avviable updates with crontab or other??
[13:50] <bean> Sagitt, that's usually a bad idea, imo
[13:50] <Sagitt> why?
[13:50] <Sagitt> i've isntalled only the OS and some packages
[13:50] <cfhowlett> !phone|Gr0tB4gz,
[13:50] <llutz> !info apticron | Sagitt
[13:51] <Sagitt> good
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, install lubuntu.  then install ubuntu-desktop.
[13:51] <GermainZ|Phone> (reposting because a bunch of new people logged in) [15:11] (GermainZ|Phone) Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, or go the other way.  on login you can choose which desktop environment to boot.
[13:51] <theadmin> Sagitt: See the unattended-upgrades package, as well as /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.
[13:52] <Sagitt> theadmin: so i've to delete // befor updates etc?
[13:52] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: I really want to leave my computer the way it is first, but test lubuntu - then if ok I will install
[13:53] <theadmin> Sagitt: Read the comments in the file, they explain everything quite nicely.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, ok.  use virtualbox to test other distros.
[13:54] <woo> I sftp'd into a server I am trying to run ddrescue and make the output ><EMAIL_ADDRESS> But it seems that sftp is mounted eleswhere.  Can anyone help me locate the exact mount point of an sftp?
[13:54] <arand> TrolLlet: Yeah, see grub-set-default(8), I'm not sure you need to enable something in the grub cfg before that as well...
[13:54] <pranav> theadmin: hey, you told that there is this vertical stacking navigator in xfce as well, what should i install for it ?
[13:54] <TrolLlet> arand: thx for help.. was exactly what i was searching for
[13:55] <GermainZ|Phone_> Right click a panel, add new panel, choose deskbar
[13:55] <GermainZ|Phone_> @pranav
[13:55] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: too slow - is there some way I can install side-by-side like I cam install side-by-side with windoze
[13:55] <TrolLlet> arand: would i be going to install windows first then ubuntu or ubuntu first?
[13:56] <Dmnchild> If when setting up partitions, I mount them as /home/username/ would that limit the user to the space of that partition?
[13:57] <arand> TrolLlet: For a dual boot, it's better to install windows first (in almost all cases)
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, as I said, easiest way is to install one OS, the add the meta packages of the other.  when finished, just purge the one you don't want.  OR, install in an extended partition i.e. "side by side"
[13:57] <TrolLlet> arand: Thank you!
[13:58] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: but that will not be a complete lubuntu install
[13:58] <theadmin> pranav: That's a part of Unity, I'm afraid it doesn't exist in Xfce. But, xfce4-panel provices similar functionality. You can configure the "Window Buttons" applet to not display window titles, for instance, and add a few launchers. Also, you can use docky, cairo-dock etc to get similar functionality as well
[13:59] <Gr0tB4gz> [@ubottu] thanks 4 that
[14:00] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, false.  apt-get install lubuntu-desktop will add the lubuntu core to your pre-existing OS ... all packages and apps and artwork will be present
[14:00] <pranav> theadmin: doing..
[14:00] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: but if for example one has an older kernel than the other?
[14:02] <MusikPolice> theadmin: thank you for your earlier help, i managed to get my applets back by installing the indicator-* packages that you recommended
[14:02] <pranav> MusikPolice: which did you install, CPU graph, temperature ?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, I'd advise running all updates and upgrades on your present OS first.  If booting the other OS causes a Kernel conflict, boot an earlier kernel.  FYI:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:02] <MusikPolice> theadmin: just a note though that the network indicator is broken somehow. it disabled all of my network interfaces and i had to manually re-enable them. i wouldn't recommend it to a new user
[14:02] <MusikPolice> pranav: i added sound, clock, and user I think
[14:03] <theadmin> MusikPolice: That's not exactly true, but yes, NetworkManager overrides most command-line-style configurations.
[14:03] <pranav> MusikPolice: those were there in my unity already
[14:04] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: ok - but whyy can't I install two linuxes if I can install linux and windoze?
[14:04] <MusikPolice> pranav: my situation is a bit different. i started with a headless server install and then added a barebones unity desktop. nice because you don't get any bloatware, but annoying because some of what i would consider *core* features are missing
[14:05] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, you can!  note that you can only use 4 mbr partitions on a mbr computer .... efi is different.
[14:06] <llutz> cfhowlett: "gpt is different" you also can use gpt on mbr/bios computers
[14:06] <cfhowlett> llutz, noted.  please advise jpmh on his project?
[14:07] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: ok - so how do  I do it, since the installer does not give me the choice,
[14:08] <llutz> Jpmh: do manual partitioning, its no problem to have several linux-installations parallel. you just have to decide which bootmanager you want to have into the MBR
[14:08] <pranav> MusikPolice: nice. did u also tried LXDE (open box) hehe
[14:09] <Jpmh> llutz: perfect ty
[14:09] <guang_> after i run command 'lsusb | grep -i 'bluetooth',it does not return anything.does it mean there is no bluetooth adapter on my notebook?
[14:09] <Em_> Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.
[14:10] <funch> Jpmh with a note that you can have linux on extended partition but windows will work on physical partition only, when you get into partitioning
[14:10] <matlock> actually
[14:10] <matlock> you can run windows from an img file
[14:10] <Jpmh> funch: ty - and windoze is long since gone anywy
[14:11] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:11] <matlock> actually it's a vhd file
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, and all of the partition/mbr/gpt/extended stuff is precisely why I installed lxde into my Ubuntustudio.  I can switch at will and/or purge lxde when I want
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, but that's just me.  YMMV
[14:12] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: ty so much
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, best of luck
[14:13] <ThinkT510> cfhowlett: what does your choice of desktop environment have to do with partitioning?
[14:13] <woo> can I output dd to a sftp server?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> cfhowlett: ahh, sorry, i just understood what you mean
[14:14] <llutz> woo: does it need to be sftp or would ssh do?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> cfhowlett: rather than having to partition a new install
[14:14] <t0ntin> Hi, all! I'm trying to install skype, and get this error message in the software center: Not found. There isn’t a software package called “file:” in your current software sources.  Any ideas?
[14:15] <Malinuss> so now I have both gnome, and unity installed. I'm out in the login screen. How do I change to gnome?
[14:15] <woo> llutz: I can use ssh to talk to the host but I only know sftp for file trasnfer.  yes ssh port is open
[14:15] <llutz> woo: dd if=/dev/sda | ssh user@server 'dd of=sda.img'
[14:15] <kwifi> hi there, i am running ubuntu 12.04 gnome, I need to adjust my wifi-antenna on my boat and need a acoustic signal strength meter. I used kwifimanager before but it seems it not available anymore? Is there a other program I can use?
[14:16] <ThinkT510> Malinuss: the login screen should have a little logo, click the logo in the top right to pick your desktop environment
[14:16] <stroodlepup> how do you install libreoffice 4 in ubuntu?
[14:16] <Malinuss> ThinkT510, sigh... thanks..
[14:16] <Em_> Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.
[14:16] <ThinkT510> stroodlepup: whats wrong with the version in the repo?
[14:17] <woo> llutz: checking...
[14:17] <parshant> how i will setup ec2 API and AMI tools on server
[14:17] <llutz> woo: or to do that from local machine: ssh user@server 'dd if=/dev/sda' | dd of=sda.img              (servers /dev/sda -> local sda.img)
[14:17] <alimj> woo: Either use llutz solution or install & use SSHFS
[14:17] <pranav> theadmin: yes, docky works fine with my need. :)
[14:17] <matlock> and really, you don't even need to repartition to install windows
[14:18] <matlock> except for to make a small partition for bcd
[14:18] <parshant> how
[14:18] <matlock> chain load that from grub
[14:18] <matlock> then install win on a vhd
[14:19] <woo> llutz: the client is trasfering to the server
[14:19] <matlock> i got a vhd that i can copy to my hdd and basically it's like reinstalling windows
[14:19] <parshant> purpose of client in UEC environment
[14:20] <woo> llutz: alright I have a sda.img on the server side too
[14:20] <llutz> woo: as used in 1st example.
[14:20] <woo> llutz: yes worked very well.  Thanks!
[14:20] <parshant> how to use keys after extracting credentials
[14:21] <parshant> hello
[14:21] <cfhowlett> parshant, greetings
[14:22] <parshant> what is purpose of client in UEC environment
[14:23] <kwifi> bump
[14:25] <Em_> Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.
[14:25] <Umair> all: is there an official apt-get search engine?
[14:26] <ikonia> Em_: worth looking at your dns settings
[14:26] <jrib> Umair: you don't want to use "apt-cache search"?
[14:26] <Umair> I was thinking if there is some search engine website
[14:26] <ikonia> search for what ?
[14:26] <jrib> Umair: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:27] <chiliblue> alacart keeps crashing on my when I try and add a new item.
[14:27] <Umair> jrib: so I can find anything here which I can install with apt-get install package right?
[14:28] <ikonia> Umair: no, that is s list of packages
[14:28] <ikonia> that does not mean all are available for installation/compatability with your current distro version
[14:28] <jrib> Umair: it searches ubuntu's official repositories. I don't see why one would not use apt-cache search to search all of their enabled repositories instead
[14:28] <MusikPolice> Em_: try sudo ifconfig from the terminal, see if your wireless adaptor is getting an ip address
[14:28] <janisozaur> hi, i (dis)connect my webcam pretty often, every time i do that, i have to select my camera's mic. is it possible to have PA select it whenever it is connected?
[14:28] <Umair> jrib: you're right
[14:29] <MusikPolice> Em_: you can reset your wireless adaptor with sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0
[14:29] <Umair> but does it guarantee to search everything?
[14:29] <MusikPolice> Em_: if that doesn't work, check if there's a hardware switch on your laptop that is disabling the adaptor.
[14:29] <Umair> or just cached ones?
[14:29] <ikonia> Umair: apt-cache will search everything that is in your current repo
[14:29] <Umair> thanks got it
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Umair, is there a specific package you're seeking?
[14:30] <Umair> I was looking for how python and python-dev are different
[14:31] <ikonia> Umair: one contains the binaries, the other the devlopment info, such as headers
[14:31] <ikonia> hence the name -dev
[14:32] <Umair> you know when I installed pypy which is python package and then Scrapy by pypy, I read it requires python-dev
[14:32] <ikonia> so ?
[14:32] <ikonia> the dependency checker within the package manager/packages will handle that
[14:32] <Umair> I'm currently testing this myself but not sure if that's true. It makes me think why this would need dev version whereas this is just for dev stuff
[14:33] <chiliblue> my alacarte issue seems to be python related too. is there any known issues with alacarte that I have missed
[14:33] <parshant> how to install euca2ools
[14:33] <ikonia> chiliblue: check launchpad.net for bug reports of known issues
[14:33] <ikonia> parshant: is that an ubuntu package /
[14:33] <ikonia> ?
[14:33] <parshant> yes
[14:33] <ikonia> parshant: open pakage manager, find package, click install
[14:34] <parshant> sudo apt get install euca2ools
[14:34] <plaYer2k> hello everyone :3
[14:34] <parshant> where is package manager
[14:34] <plaYer2k> iam looking for someone who could help me with configuring WizardPen under ubuntu 12.04
[14:35] <ikonia> parshant: I sugest you read https://help.ubuntu.com to learn the basics of using the desktop
[14:35] <Umair> how can I check if I have python-dev installed or not? I can check python is installed by checking its version
[14:35] <ikonia> Umair: why does it matter ? just install the package you want, and it will auto install the dependencies that are missing
[14:36] <theadmin> Umair: You can do "sudo apt-get install python-dev" and see if  that installs anything...
[14:36] <parshant> no euca2ools package is found,
[14:36] <ikonia> parshant: then it's not an ubuntu package
[14:36] <Umair> I installed Scrapy and because it depends on Twisted which it tried to install and failed with gcc code 1
[14:36] <theadmin> !info euca2ools | ikonia, parshant
[14:36] <ikonia> Umair: how did you install scrappy
[14:37] <ikonia> parshant: there you go, then the package is there
[14:37] <Umair> pip install Scrapy. but under virtualenv
[14:37] <theadmin> parshant: Run "sudo apt-get update" then, sounds like you're missing package lists
[14:37] <ikonia> Umair: pip ?
[14:37] <Umair> pypy is a package manager for python
[14:37] <ikonia> Umair: right, so that's no the ubuntu package manager
[14:37] <Umair> pip is command for pypy
[14:37] <ikonia> Umair: so it won't be aware of any ubuntu packages
[14:38] <Umair> are you sure?
[14:38] <Umair> it requires Python to run
[14:38] <ikonia> Umair: does it deal with .deb packages ?
[14:38] <ikonia> Umair: reuquiring python to run, does not make it a deb package manager intergrated into the ubuntu package system
[14:38] <Umair> I'm not sure if it deals with .deb
[14:39] <ikonia> Umair: then it won't be aware of ubuntu packages
[14:39] <theadmin> ikonia: It's not a deb package manager, it installs python "packages" which are basically sets of python modules
[14:39] <ikonia> theadmin: which makes sense
[14:39] <theadmin> ikonia: Yep.
[14:39] <woo> llutz: :) this is going to take a really long time over wifi huh?
[14:39] <Umair> right
[14:40] <llutz> woo: sure, depends on the image-size. imageing wihtout gbit-network is a pita
[14:40] <Umair> so when it says it failed with gcc code 1 it doesn't mean it will be solved by installing python-dev
[14:40] <ikonia> Umair: it means it's trying to compile something, hence gcc
[14:40] <woo> llutz: to safely exit dd its crtl+c?
[14:40] <llutz> woo: yes
[14:40] <woo> ty | llutz
[14:41] <Umair> there is a chance compilation would need python-dev?
[14:41] <ikonia> very likley
[14:41] <ThinkT510> woo: i don't think interupting dd can be called safe
[14:41] <Umair> so is there a way I can check if a particular package is installed already?
[14:42] <jrib> Umair: apt-cache policy
[14:42] <jrib> !apt | Umair
[14:42] <ikonia> Umair: dpkg -l | grep python-dev
[14:42] <ikonia> Umair: or just try to install it...see if it installs
[14:42] <Umair> it just installed
[14:43] <Umair> how can I fix this gcc error?
[14:43] <woo> ThinkT510: I don't like using 802.11 for large transfers.  was lazy at the beginning to not get up.  so... but I understand
[14:43] <ikonia> Umair: depends on the error, fix the dependencies, or the code
[14:44] <akyama> alow
[14:44] <NetFlam> Hi all!
[14:46] <phoenixsampras> help!! how to dvd rip a DVD?
[14:46] <ikonia> !dvd | phoenixsampras
[14:46] <ikonia> phoenixsampras: check up on https://help.ubuntu.com for the basics of using multimedia tools
[14:47] <theadmin> phoenixsampras: There are numerous tools for this in the repos, the easiest one to use is probably k9copy
[14:47] <phoenixsampras> theadmin: and for gnome?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> phoenixsampras, also look into #ubuntustudio
[14:48] <theadmin> phoenixsampras: There are handbrake, dvd::rip and so on. But you can install k9copy in a gnome environment as well, nothing to stop you from doing that. I just don't find others intuitive/easy to use.
[14:48] <akyama> @hackernewbie
[14:48] <ikonia> akyama: ?
[14:50] <war59312> my crazy adventure of 2013: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112820 Hope that helps soemone who runs into the same thing. Google tells me there are lots of people having this issue since as far as 2011. Ugh!
[14:51] <phoenixsampras> what about AdicdRip?
[14:52] <Umair> thanks guys
[14:52] <STMelon> Thoggen DVD Ripper
[14:52] <Umair> I figured why gcc error was there. It was libxml2-dev and libxslt1-dev
[14:52] <Umair> btw what these modules do
[14:52] <woo> llutz: & ThinkT510: it wasn't safe
[14:53] <ikonia> Umair: what do you mean, what do they do ?
[14:53] <war59312> how to mark a thread solved on the forums? i must be blind..
[14:53] <Umair> what are their functions
[14:54] <llutz> woo: ?
[14:54] <war59312> yea blind.. hhaha funny how that happens.. its under thread tools
[14:54] <woo> llutz: networking locked up on the ssh
[14:54] <ikonia> Umair: they put xml and xslt compatability in
[14:54] <woo> llutz: client side
[14:55] <llutz> woo: kill the ssh-session
[14:57] <woo> llutz: its gone
[14:57] <war59312> anyone here great at mounting via rc.local.. having trouble getting a raid5 array to mount.. works fine in fstab...
[14:58] <war59312> fstab entry is: #RAID5 UUID=8210E37910E37319  /media/RAID  ntfs-3g  noauto,rw,user,owner,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0 #NFS /media/RAID/Boxee       /export/users   none    noauto,bind     0       0
[14:58] <scratchy_> Yay
[14:58] <scratchy_> A chatbox :)
[14:58] <scratchy_> Hi everybody
[14:58] <scratchy_> How you guys doing today
[14:58] <scratchy_> Its been like a decade since ive been on IRC
[14:58] <war59312> welcome back
[14:59] <scratchy_> But today's technology and social media is kinda forcing me back into my old ways
[14:59] <scratchy_> I need a little freshning up course though
[14:59] <scratchy_> XD
[14:59] <woo> llutz: should assign sudo +i before the dd.  Glich between the sudo and server authorization
[14:59] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, greetings.  this channel's focus is ubuntu support.  What are your questions?
[15:00] <scratchy_> Well, my question is the following, Just installed ubuntu on a laptop with some GPU troubles
[15:00] <llutz> woo yes
[15:00] <akyama> @indonesianbacktrack.or.id
[15:00] <llutz> woo:or just:  sudo dd if=/dev/sda | ssh user@server 'dd of=sda.img'
[15:00] <woo> llutz: can I script pws into the script??
[15:00] <scratchy_> do you have any advice for me to install my desktop system with the least possible graphical resources
[15:00] <scratchy_> like a text only system
[15:01] <llutz> woo: no, ssh won't take passwords from commandline (without hacks)
[15:01] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, what kind of problems are you having???
[15:01] <scratchy_> Well I blew out my 3d graphics acceleration a while ago on this awesome laptop. Still works fine with text though
[15:02] <scratchy_> So i want to use ubuntu again to up my linux skills, so dont really need the graphical desktop
[15:02] <scratchy_> is there a way to deinstall it and still use ubuntu to the fullest ?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, you installed ubuntu12.04
[15:02] <cfhowlett> ?
[15:03] <scratchy_> yeah, should I have installed another version ?
[15:03] <ThinkT510> !mini | scratchy_
[15:03] <scratchy_> problem is when I go into the graphical desktop too long
[15:03] <scratchy_> it just locks up
[15:03] <scratchy_> ok Cool Thanks Ubottu
[15:03] <Umair> all: http://instacod.es
[15:03] <scratchy_> One more question for you awesome support guys
[15:04] <scratchy_> Is there a channel where I can talk linux and ubuntu without having questions
[15:04] <scratchy_> I mean like just topical chat
[15:04] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, ubuntu 12.04 has unity which requires a gpu.  Not sure but I think perhaps lxde or xfce desktop interfaces less and MIGHT fly with a hobbled gpu
[15:04] <ThinkT510> scratchy_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:04] <war59312> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID   NOT working but no error either.. ugh!
[15:04] <scratchy_> ok kewl :)
[15:04] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, best of luck
[15:04] <scratchy_> Yeah I was thinking of installing gentoo
[15:05] <scratchy_> but then I remembered the hassle with the USE enviro's
[15:05] <scratchy_> so kinda dont wanna go through that again lol
[15:05] <scratchy_> So maybe a minimal install of ubuntu would do the trick
[15:05] <r_a_f> unity is only a candy - not require to anything
[15:05] <STMelon> scratchy_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[15:05] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, if you can get a command line, try sudo apt-get xfce && sudo apt-get install lxde    then logout, login and choose one or the other to test
[15:06] <scratchy_> is xfce still out there ?
[15:06] <scratchy_> awesome :)
[15:06] <scratchy_> Ok Thanks for the tip...Im gonna try it out
[15:06] <scratchy_> Keep up the good work
[15:07]  * war59312 feels dumb..... sudo mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID works just fine :)
[15:07] <STMelon> The basic steps to install Ubuntu Server Edition from CD or USB stick are the same for installing any operating system. Unlike the desktop version, Ubuntu Server does not include a graphical installation program. Instead the Server Edition uses a console menu-based process.
[15:08] <scratchy_> STMelon, Will I still be able to use the full function of Ubuntu...Lynx for Web and ehr I need somekind Mailing program...
[15:08] <scratchy_> oh and access to the cloud would be nice
[15:08] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, evolution handles mail nicely
[15:09] <STMelon> most likely yes, i havnt installed ubun tu server, its all cli though, no DE
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !ubuntuone|scratchy_
[15:09] <scratchy_> Well, I got some extra time right now :) My boss wont be back for hours ;)
[15:09] <dedunu> you should install DE tp
[15:09] <dedunu> use GUI
[15:09] <scratchy_> Ill install the server edition and let you guys know how it went
[15:10] <dedunu> hey
[15:10] <dedunu> scratchy
[15:10] <scratchy_> hey
[15:10] <dedunu> you can download minimal ISO
[15:10] <scratchy_> Dedunu :)
[15:10] <dedunu> and then
[15:10] <dedunu> install DE
[15:10] <dedunu> it will save few megabytes
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !minimal|scratchy_
[15:10] <scratchy_> ok minimal
[15:10] <scratchy_> :)
[15:10] <dedunu> bcz server contains
[15:10] <scratchy_> like my techno that sounds good
[15:11] <dedunu> few packages apache mysql php
[15:11] <dedunu> which you really don't need
[15:11] <scratchy_> just the basic lamp server ?
[15:11] <dedunu> yeah
[15:11] <dedunu> with dns
[15:11] <dedunu> blah blah
[15:11] <scratchy_> yeah not planning much with running servers
[15:11] <dedunu> openssh
[15:11] <war59312> ok so sudo mount.ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID  is perfect :)
[15:11] <dedunu> then download minimal
[15:11] <scratchy_> Just need my battery to last and my GPU not to be working
[15:11] <scratchy_> Just need my battery to last and my GPU not to be working
[15:12] <dedunu> ok
[15:12] <dedunu> use minal
[15:12] <scratchy_> Thanks dedunu
[15:12] <dedunu> welcome
[15:12] <STMelon> you could always try xubuntu scratchy_ : http://xubuntu.org/
[15:12] <dedunu> yeah
[15:13] <STMelon> minimal gives you alot more control as to what is installed though
[15:13] <dedunu> xubuntu is a lightweight one
[15:13] <dedunu> with xfce
[15:13] <SamuelOPH> There's Lubuntu too, with LXDE
[15:13] <dedunu> 12.10
[15:13] <dedunu> i had a problem
[15:13] <SamuelOPH> But I prefer XFCE
[15:13] <dedunu> with memory
[15:13] <dedunu> then i installed xfce
[15:14] <war59312> is rc.local really the best place for me to be mounting network drives... fstab is a no no.. don't want it print text on bootup that it cant access them.. text is still print even if using the _netdev option.
[15:14] <dedunu> it reduced memry consumtion 3gb to .5 gb
[15:14] <dedunu> its really cool
[15:14] <scratchy_> Yeah its a dualcore msi laptop and I used it for years, just because I got this little 3d acceleration problem would be wasteful to buy a new laptop
[15:14] <SamuelOPH> Yep, I'm using XFCE here
[15:19] <rikica> the esyest way to master shell ..any  ideas :)
[15:21] <Umair> rikica: by doing it :)
[15:21] <userid01> hello
[15:22] <mand_> Is there a way to make windows not span over multiple viewports?
[15:22] <rikica> umair ..swet and read ..but wher to start ..i ment ..free links ..or e-books
[15:22] <Malinuss> so right now I have a "minimal" ubuntu installed. How would I go around installing and starting the XFCE DE? I can't find the package name..
[15:22] <ThinkT510> rikica: perhaps better asked in #bash
[15:23] <mand_> Malinuss: install xubuntu-desktop
[15:23] <derbie> Hello. Any German native speaker online?
[15:23] <lnx-e> hello every one
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !de|derbie,
[15:23] <derbie> Thank you
[15:23] <IdleOne> derbie: tell thrawed to try harder when he helps.
[15:24] <xangua> Malinuss: still with that...really you should just download a normal desktop iso
[15:24] <cfhowlett> lnx-e, greetings
[15:24] <Malinuss> xangua, just playing around :)
[15:24] <Malinuss> mand_, thanks, isn't that more or less the same as lubuntu?
[15:24] <lnx-e> i need help about display configration
[15:24] <lnx-e> xorg.conf or smth
[15:24] <dedunu> malinuss it is very light one
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !details|lnx-e,
[15:25] <dedunu> bit different than ubuntu desktop i mean terminal blah bla
[15:25] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | lnx-e
[15:25] <lnx-e> i have 3 monitor system
[15:25] <Seagull> hello everyone! May I ask a little dummy question about Broadcom network adapter configuration? To be specific -- I have installed wrong drivers using b43-fwcutter and don't know how get rid of them
[15:25] <dedunu> but you can do everything with it
[15:25] <lnx-e> choosing 1 monitor default
[15:25] <Malinuss> dedunu, are you talking about xubuntu or lubuntu?
[15:25] <derbie> IdleOne: :-)
[15:25] <dedunu> any
[15:26] <dedunu> Malinuss kernal is ubuntu one but DESKTOP enviroment have set of native tools
[15:26] <dedunu> they make a difference in UX
[15:26] <dedunu> user expericen
[15:26] <cfhowlett> Seagull, I take it you manually installed those
[15:26] <cfhowlett> ?
[15:26] <lnx-e> i need to choose default one monitor (center one) all opengl games are opening  left one (sorry aboout my english :))
[15:27] <lnx-e> im using ubuntu 12.10
[15:27] <lnx-e> im new
[15:27] <dedunu> lnx-e you can take display settings and setup your monitors
[15:27] <cfhowlett> lnx-e, what is your first language?
[15:28] <lnx-e> turkish
[15:28] <lnx-e> im from istanbul
[15:28] <Seagull> cfhowlett yes. I found manual, at http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922 but I should install another driver
[15:28] <lnx-e> my setup is ok .... 3 monitors ok
[15:28] <lnx-e> but i just wanted to set default
[15:29] <cfhowlett> Seagull, slow down.  what is your broadcom chip? 43**???
[15:29] <lnx-e> i have ati hd 6850
[15:30] <Malinuss> and how do I start the GUI again?
[15:30] <lnx-e> in display manager i couldnt find "make default" button line
[15:30] <Seagull> cfhowlett, BCM43228 . and i'v installed b43 instead of broadcom-wl
[15:31] <cfhowlett> Seagull, additional drivers didn't pick up the broadcom for you?
[15:31] <dedunu> Malinuss try startx ?
[15:31] <Malinuss> k
[15:32] <dedunu> I never tried it just asked ok
[15:32] <dedunu> ?
[15:32] <HenrikJ>
[15:32] <Seagull> cfhowlett, If i understand you, additionl drivers is a GUI tool? I haven't any GUI installed. just a little console server.
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Seagull, I'm pretty sure if you just do the broadcom Linux STA driver, it will overwrite the previous driver.  However, you could apt-purge the previous driver if you wih
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Seagull, understood.
[15:33] <phoenixsampras> im a dvd ripper... wohoo
[15:34] <dedunu> Malinuss did it work?
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Seagull, so I think the process would be to install the Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA and see if that fixes things.  If not, then purge the previous driver and reboot and try again.
[15:34] <Malinuss> dedunu, the installation isn
[15:34] <Malinuss> 't quiet finished
[15:34] <dedunu> ok
[15:34] <dedunu> tell me update ;_
[15:34] <dedunu> ;)
[15:34] <Malinuss> I will hehe
[15:35] <bat_> Hi, I have samba running and I would like to start/stop it at will. But the command 'sudo service smdb stop' doesn't stop it (I know it thanks to nmap). Is this normal ?
[15:36] <ioria> bat_ : service smbd, i think
[15:36] <Malinuss> dedunu, "failed to load sesion "gnome" "
[15:37] <dedunu> what is the DE you isntalled frnd
[15:37] <dedunu> ??
[15:37] <bat_> ioria: I tried service smbd stop and it doesn't work
[15:37] <Seagull> cfhowlett, sorry one thing else. You said purge drivers. I am trying to ask how? Their wasn't installed by apt-get . I'v unpacked them using b43-fwcutter. (Sorry if i'm dumb)
[15:37] <dedunu> i think it only work for GNOME
[15:37] <Malinuss> dedunu, I installed the lubuntu-core
[15:38] <dedunu> Malinuss wait a but
[15:38] <ioria> bat_ : sorry, but you wrote : service sm - db
[15:38] <dedunu> bit
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Seagull, you installed the driver with dpkg -i , no?  the inverse would be dpkg -remove I think ...
[15:38] <SamuelOPH> bat_; try it with samba isntead of smbd
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Seagull, and you're not dumb
[15:38] <dedunu> malinuss try thisexec startlxde
[15:38] <dedunu> exec startlxde
[15:39] <Seagull> cfhowlett, as I'v found by google-ing I must delete all unnecessary drivers
[15:39] <dedunu> or startlxde
[15:39] <xangua> Malinuss: you can download the desktop iso of lubuntu at lubuntu.net
[15:39] <bat_> ioria: (ho sorry I mis-typed it, i meant 'smbd')
[15:39] <OerHeks> bat_,  what does sudo service smbd status  tell you ?
[15:39] <dedunu> xangua he already have installed core
[15:39] <xangua> .....
[15:39] <dedunu> xangua now its better to install DE
[15:39] <dedunu> isnt it?
[15:40] <SamuelOPH> bat_; try #service samba stop
[15:40] <Malinuss> xangua, I have core installed,  I just don't know how to start the GUI :=
[15:40] <bat__> re
[15:40] <dedunu> Malinuss didn't it work?
[15:40] <dedunu> :(
[15:41] <dedunu> then i am not good person to help you
[15:41] <dedunu> :(
[15:41] <bat__> typing 'service samba stop' returns 'samba: unrecognized service'
[15:41] <Malinuss> dedunu, both commands are unknown
[15:41] <dedunu> oops
[15:41] <dedunu> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[15:41] <bat__> typing 'service smbd status' returns nothing
[15:41] <dedunu> from here i got it malinuss
[15:42] <ioria> bat_ : try     sudo  /etc/init.d/smbd stop, but maybe it's not running ... does it show in ps -A?
[15:42] <OerHeks> bat_, use sudo
[15:42] <xangua> Malinuss: you would spend less time in downloading and installing the desktop iso (1-2 hours) than installing a desktop (you have been doing it for 2 days as far as i know)
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Seagull, ok.  I manually built and installed the drivers in 10.04.  12.04 worked out of the box.
[15:42] <cfhowlett> bat_, try smb
[15:42] <Seagull> cfhowlett no dpkg. there is a b43-fwcutter, i'v installed it, then wget driver file, unpack it and then used b43-fwcutter to extract it to /lib/firmware (exactly as described in http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922 at step 3, b43 drivers instalation)
[15:42] <bat__> ioria: I know it is running, I can see it with nmap
[15:43] <bat__> ioria: it returns 'Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service'
[15:43] <cfhowlett> Seagull, ok. ask in the channel for removal/purge guidance.  sorry IDK
[15:43] <nick> hi
[15:44] <Malinuss> xangua, I'm not in a hurry. I had it installed 2-3 times already, just started over a couple of times for the fun of it.. I'm just doing this mostly to learn, not to have something working. maybe I should try arch, haha
[15:44] <nick> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu?
[15:44] <Guest63807> I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle
[15:45] <dinkel> i just updated 12.04 on a asus 901 eeepc. the system will not boot anymore due to a  "The system is running in low graphics mode .... your screen could not be detected corrctly" i'm pretty sure this is because of a xserver update. what can i do?
[15:45] <Guest63807> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle
[15:45] <bat__> ioria: Yes I can see smbd with ps -A
[15:45] <unheeding> Guest63807: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[15:46] <Seagull> cfhowlett, Thank a lot for your help!
[15:47] <ioria> bat_ : there are error messages ?
[15:47] <playdo> if anyone has some knowledge of .htaccess, could you please take a look at http://pastebin.com/cMW98sD0
[15:47] <Guest39482> any one have any information on getting Netflix to run on Ubuntu. I've tried every thing to get it to work
[15:48] <playdo> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019
[15:48] <bat__> ioria: no, no error messages, just nothing.. it's weird i feel like my services are broken because when I type 'sudo service -status-all' there are questions marks on every services..
[15:48] <Malinuss> I guess my question is - how do I start LXDE from the command promt, after the installation of lubuntu-core?
[15:48] <mand_> When I move a windows half out of a workspace, how can I prevent that it's other half appears on the next workspace?
[15:48] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.
[15:49] <Guest39482> playdo, I actually tried that already and I keep getting the same error at Netflix: it tells me 'thanks for installing - restart your browser' every time and won't run
[15:49] <ioria> bat_ : oh... try sudo kill -9 with the pid number but it's a very rough way
[15:49] <voldyman> guys what the best way to transfer music to iphone from ubuntu ?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> !phone|voldyman,
[15:49] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.
[15:50] <voldyman> cfhowlett, still i can't just throw away my old iphone.
[15:50] <Chiku|dc> hi there is no passenger module for nginx ?
[15:50] <mojtaba> (10:48:56 AM) adam: Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.
[15:50] <SolarisBoy> its a gem Chiku|dc
[15:50] <cfhowlett> voldyman, wrong link. sorry
[15:50] <cfhowlett> ipod|voldyman
[15:50] <cfhowlett> !ipod|voldyman
[15:50] <bat__> ioria: but I would to start it again later.. doing a kill -9 won't allow me to start it again later..
[15:50] <Jeruvy> mojtaba, yes if you need help feel free to ask in #vmware.
[15:50] <Chiku|dc> SolarisBoy, I installed passenger gem
[15:50] <mojtaba> Jeruvy: ok, thanks
[15:51] <dinkel> histo, the very recent update of 12.04 killed my eeepc. no fully booting through because of graphics problem. any idea?
[15:51] <Chiku|dc> but nginx: [emerg] unknown directive "passenger_root" in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf:11
[15:51] <voldyman> cfhowlett, thanks. :)
[15:51] <cfhowlett> voldyman, and feel free to mail that old phone my way ...
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: you need to then run the binary which ships with the gem if it wasn't run yet to install the module - it may try to install nginx afaik
[15:51] <ioria> bat_ : well, if neither start works, maybe the problem is deeper
[15:52] <Chiku|dc> SolarisBoy, yes but it will compile new nginx which is not more the ubuntu package one ?
[15:52] <bat__> ioria: yes, I got the same feeling. By any chance, do you know where is the log for 'service' ?
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: correct
[15:52] <ioria> bat_ : /var/log i think
[15:52] <Naeblis> Hi. I'm suddenly having sound troubles in Ubuntu 11.04. Tried Troubleshooting, and ran a script to re-install all the ALSA related stuff, but hasn't worked. Help!
[15:52] <Chiku|dc> so I shouold not use ubuntu's nginx if I want passenger ?
[15:53] <bat__> ioria: Ok, I'll take look. Thank you for your time :)
[15:53] <theuser> so im still wondering what exactly are the multiseat/multiterminal improvements in the 12.10 release?
[15:53] <ioria> bat_ : good luck, pal
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: i see a few folks have repos if you want to try that out
[15:53] <cfhowlett> !EOL|Naeblis,   you do know that version is end of life and no longer supported?
[15:53] <xangua> !eol | Naeblis
[15:54] <Naeblis> uhh....yeah
[15:54] <Naeblis> so no way I'm getting help for this version?
[15:54] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: otherwise the way i have done it is to just compile nginx using the ruby module (sounds backwards but yea, no repo installed nginx), or you can try one of the repo's (ppas) out there that seem to provide the module and nginx as well in package form if you want to stick to the ubuntu methods.
[15:54] <Boreeas> For some reason, hibernation fails for me. The computer suspends, but when I boot it again, the saved state is lost. dmesg tells me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633474/
[15:54] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, I'd urge you to consider installing 12.04 for Long Term Support ...
[15:55] <Boreeas> Does anyone know how to fix that? I know that I have enough swap, swapon tells me that only  2% of the 10GB swap partition is used
[15:55] <Chiku|dc> SolarisBoy, I will compile nginx with gem module
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: sounds food.
[15:56] <Chiku|dc> what about init.d script ?
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> *good =)
[15:56] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: thanks, but that's not an option at the moment. I might move in a few days.
[15:56] <Naeblis> :(
[15:56] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, ok then...
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: the nginx init script is pretty simple just repoint it to /opt where i believe it will install by default in the software compile
[15:56] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, any warning messages on your audio fail???
[15:57] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: that's the weird part. The devices are all recognized, and usually, the ALSA script (which I got from a very helpful person on Ubuntu forums) always fixed everything, but it's not working.
[15:57] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: closest I got was that usergroup 63 (I think) doesn't exist
[15:57] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, any chance this could be a hardware failure???
[15:58] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: hmm, don't think so to be honest. Might have to boot into Windows to find out
[15:58] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, that would be a definitive test ...
[15:59] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: I'll reboot and let you know how it goes. :)
[15:59] <phoenixsampras> is there stickyes in ubuntu?
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> anyone here use the ubuntu one feature?
[16:01] <phoenixsampras> l057c0d3r: tried... but dropbox is better
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> im down to the last part where it sais sync, stream , store
[16:01] <compdoc> cloud storage?
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> selected the files i wanted.. and its been saying gathering information for an hour now
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> err getting information please wait.. same thing
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> i like dropbox but ubuntu one works (recently) for me so i started using that since its already installed anyway
[16:02] <l057c0d3r> i feel like its not doing anything
[16:02] <l057c0d3r> at all
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> are you using a default setup ? or highly customized? i know that u1 used to have an issue with folks not running network manager
[16:02] <cfhowlett> 1057c0d3r it's a pretty silent operation ...
[16:03] <BluesKaj> dropbox works fine on ubuntu
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> they have logs under .cache i believe though if you wanted to know
[16:03] <l057c0d3r> it was the setup screen still.. couldnt click finish because it was getting information
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> do you have large files?
[16:03] <l057c0d3r> its not even syncing yet from what i can tell
[16:03] <l057c0d3r> oh well i just killed the process and reopened it..
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> you can check the logs to see what was happening
[16:04] <l057c0d3r> got the actual ubuntu one screen now.. i'll see what happens from here
[16:04] <Physicist> Greetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that?
[16:04] <cfhowlett> not the nicest user commun
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[16:04] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <cfhowlett> \
[16:04] <cfhowlett> Seagull, ok.  I manually built and installed the drivers in 10.04.  12.04 worked out of the box.
[16:05] <l057c0d3r> but yeah..  have a fully custom setup...  installed from minimal cd.. and pulled in what i wanted....
[16:05] <l057c0d3r> but i love this setup :-)  looks and works great
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> l057c0d3r: running network manager or just manually setting interfaces or other (wicd etc)?
[16:06] <l057c0d3r> im using network manager
[16:06] <SolarisBoy> l057c0d3r: regardless you may want to check the logs to be sure and maybe try dropbox if it's more forgiving of your setup
[16:06] <Physicist> Greetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that problem?
[16:06] <SolarisBoy> l057c0d3r: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/ has seperate logs for each main function/process so thats where you would see what was causing an issue if anything
[16:07] <l057c0d3r> ahh its working now.. i wonder what the hang in setup was all about
[16:07] <l057c0d3r> killed that process and restarted..  now i can see my devices and its syncing right now
[16:07] <l057c0d3r> oh well as long as its working now.
[16:07] <SolarisBoy> logs may tell you, file sizes/counts could be one thing, or maybe a network hiccup (which would be in logs)
[16:08] <l057c0d3r> probably was something to do with my net to be honest
[16:08] <l057c0d3r> it likes to drop all the time
[16:08] <SolarisBoy> that would do it =)
[16:08] <l057c0d3r> end up going away for a few min and comming back to l057c0d3r_ in irc
[16:08] <Physicist> Common fellas..
[16:09] <l057c0d3r> i need a new isp
[16:10] <phoenixsampras> I need a wine
[16:11] <devdyd> Hey all -- does anyone know of a decent method to return the color underneath the cursor so I can use it in a bash script?
[16:11] <Boreeas> For some reason, hibernation fails for me. The computer suspends, but when I boot it again, the saved state is lost. dmesg tells me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633474/
[16:11] <Boreeas> Does anyone know how to fix that? I know that I have enough swap, swapon tells me that only  2% of the 10GB swap partition is used
[16:12] <escott> Boreeas, how much ram do you have?
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> devdyd: gpick
[16:12] <Boreeas> escott: 3 GB
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> devdyd: 'sudo apt-get install gpick'
[16:13] <escott> Boreeas, do you have encrypted home/encrypted swap
[16:13] <Boreeas> escott: I don't think so. How do I check?
[16:14] <escott> Boreeas, what does swapon -s say
[16:14] <EuroTrash> If I edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm, will that apply automatically on next boot or do I have to update initramfs?
[16:14] <SolarisBoy> EuroTrash: update
[16:14] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: turns out it was hardware fault after all. :/
[16:14] <Boreeas> /dev/sda6                               partition	10687484	218372	-1
[16:14] <andrewx> Anyone know about Flash 11.5 support for linux? Whats up?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, at least now you know ...
[16:15] <EuroTrash> Thanks (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID did not mention it)
[16:15] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: thanks for your time. I never considered h/w to be faulty. I always assume Ubuntu to be at fault for my sound troubles
[16:15] <cfhowlett> !flash|andrewx,
[16:16] <OerHeks> andrew_, current is  11.2 r202 and 11.5 is for windows
[16:16] <ethanr> how stable is ubuntu 13.04 at this point?
[16:17] <rikica> ?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|ethanr,
[16:17] <rikica> ubutnu  13.04 is out  or will be after may
[16:17] <compdoc> Raring Ringtail - heh, great name
[16:17] <rikica> ?
[16:17] <STMelon> <IP_ADDRESS>2 is the latest adobe flash.. in ubuntu software center: flashplugin-installer <IP_ADDRESS>2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:17] <devdyd> thanks SolarisBoy I'll check it out
[16:18] <SolarisBoy> devdyd: sure
[16:18] <STMelon> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
[16:20] <ethanr> I need a new OS for my netbook (Eee PC 901), but ubuntu12.10 is too slow. I tried 13.04 from a relatively slow USB, and it seemed to be faster, but it had severe visual glitches on the dash and alt-tab. will these still remain if I install? how about if I update?
[16:20] <theuser> Can i prevent ubuntu from automatically start using a keyboard as an input device?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> ethanr, xubuntu or lubuntu are designed for low spec and older machines.  either should work well.  I'd suggest you install 12.04 for Long Term Support
[16:21] <ethanr> cfhowlett, i don
[16:21] <invariant> ethanr, if you want things to work, use 12.04.
[16:21] <theuser> ethanr,   Lubuntu 12.04 is golden
[16:21] <ThinkT510> ethanr: 13.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until stable release
[16:22] <Boreeas> escott: /dev/sda6                               partition	10687484	218372	-1
[16:22] <invariant> ethanr, if you want to waste time on a broken system every one in a while, use something newer.
[16:22] <invariant> every once in a while*
[16:22] <dinkel> my eeepc root partition (4GB SSD) is notoriously short of memory, so i have only minimal install. is there a way to enlarge the root partition acroos hardware borders. i have plenty of space on the secondary SSD (16 GB).
[16:22] <dinkel> ?
[16:22] <ethanr> dinkel
[16:22] <ethanr> i have the exact same hd config as you
[16:22] <dinkel> yes
[16:23] <escott> Boreeas, yeah everything looks ok with the swap partition itself.
[16:23] <invariant> dinkel, you can use bind mounts.
[16:23] <dinkel> invariant, bind mounts ... never heard of it
[16:23] <invariant> !bind
[16:23] <dinkel> ok
[16:23] <invariant> dinkel, just google it.
[16:24] <invariant> dinkel, it allows you to put e.g. your usr on your 16GB drive.
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !google
[16:24] <escott> dinkel, an unsupported configuration is to put /usr on a different disk
[16:24] <invariant> cfhowlett, ....
[16:24] <dinkel> escott, alrigth
[16:24] <theuser> I was in awe when i realized my 4-5year old mini asus aspire one L110 could do 1080p on the vga out
[16:24] <invariant> cfhowlett, have you even googled it yourself?
[16:24] <dinkel> is it straightforward to do and secure?
[16:24] <invariant> cfhowlett, it cannot be much simpler.
[16:24] <dinkel> or am i getting in a whole lot of other troubles?
[16:25] <invariant> cfhowlett, type 'bind mount' and press enter.
[16:25] <invariant> escott, what kind of nonsense is that?
[16:25] <escott> invariant, ?
[16:25] <invariant> escott, who told you that?
[16:25] <escott> invariant, told me what?
[16:26] <dinkel> invariant, thx
[16:26] <invariant> escott, that putting /usr on a different disk is unsupported?
[16:26] <invariant> dinkel, I am not using it for usr, but I am using it for some other myself.
[16:26] <devdyd> SolarisBoy: this won't output to the console though right?
[16:26] <trap24> which is the offtopic channel for ubuntu :D
[16:26] <escott> invariant, there are binaries in /sbin that use libraries in /usr. so /sbin is broken without /usr
[16:27] <cfhowlett> !ot|trap24,
[16:27] <dinkel> invariant, but it doesnt look straightforward to me
[16:27] <invariant> escott, how is that even remotely related to what I asked you?
[16:27] <dinkel> google doesnt really clarify things
[16:27] <escott> invariant, if you dont use those binaries you might not have any problems but developers aren't making promises that separate /usr will work for everyone
[16:27] <dinkel> invariant, i wonder anyway why a basic install chews up 4 GB
[16:28] <dinkel> anyway ...
[16:28] <invariant> escott, again, where did you read that?
[16:28] <OerHeks> dinkel you could boot from 2nd ssd, and use the small 4 gb for data/backup
[16:28] <invariant> escott, there is no reason... no reason at all why that wouldn't work.
[16:29] <llutz> invariant: " ldd /sbin/*|grep usr"
[16:29] <dinkel> OerHeks, yes, i wanted to avoid that ... but under these circumstances its  probably the most straightforward solution
[16:29] <invariant> llutz, how is that related?
[16:30] <invariant> llutz, I know what the command does, and as far as I am concerned the output is irrelevant.
[16:30] <llutz> invariant: any binary from /sbin using libs in /usr/* will fail to run until /usr is mounted
[16:30] <llutz> invariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted
[16:30] <invariant> llutz, yes, and isn't everything mounted at boot?
[16:30] <STMelon> brb
[16:30] <llutz> invariant: you don't get it
[16:31] <invariant> llutz, because you haven't provided an argument.
[16:31] <llutz> invariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted
[16:31] <invariant> llutz, you only alluded to an argument.
[16:31] <zilvukas> Hello, have problem with erricsson integrated 3g device, after connection astablish'ed, i am automaticaly disconnected after few minutes.
[16:31] <Physicist> Greetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that problem?
[16:31] <invariant> llutz, now would be a great time to say that with default Ubuntu that is not the case.
[16:32] <invariant> llutz, because otherwise your whole argument falls over.
[16:32] <cfhowlett> Physicist, steam is still in beta ...
[16:32] <escott> invariant, upstream fedora/systemd has already declared it to be completely unsupported and is started down the path of eliminating /usr entirely. debian is likely to try and keep it running a bit longer, but i think it is fair to say it is "unsupported" in the sense that it is not guaranteed to work for everybody, and its not guaranteed to continue to work in the future
[16:32] <llutz> invariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted <- if thats the case with *buntu, you're fine.
[16:33] <Physicist> cfhowlett, and??
[16:33] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: I don't think RO has an OpenGL mode
[16:33] <invariant> llutz, in short, you don't know.
[16:33] <llutz> invariant: i never said it doesn't work
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Physicist, so this might be a steam issue not an ubuntu issue???
[16:33] <invariant> escott, you seem to be a very confused person.
[16:34] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Exist the choose between Direct 3d and Open GL. My choice was Direct 3D. Later that.. crash!!
[16:34] <invariant> The whole 'not supported' issue has no meaning anyway.
[16:34] <escott> invariant, what would you call it when binaries in /sbin rely on libraries in /usr and upstream udev requires /usr to be on the same disk?
[16:34] <invariant> You can always pay someone to get it to work again if you cannot do it yourself.
[16:34] <alami> why i can found irssi-plugin-silc