[00:04] <heroicwisdom> can anybody here help me with installing a webcam so it can work with kopete. I have a MS nx-6000 and everytime i attempt to use it in kopoete it crashes
[00:06] <EagleScreen> hi heroicwisdom
[00:07] <heroicwisdom> Hello
[00:07] <EagleScreen> whay is your KDE version?
[00:07] <heroicwisdom> KDE4
[00:07] <EagleScreen> plase full version
[00:07] <heroicwisdom> im not usre
[00:07] <heroicwisdom> sure*
[00:08] <EagleScreen> do you have Konqueror or Dolphin?
[00:08] <heroicwisdom> both i believe, but i use Dolphin for file managment
[00:08] <EagleScreen> open one of them and use Help -> About KDE to see it
[00:10] <heroicwisdom> KDE ver 4.1.4
[00:10] <EagleScreen> I think your problem is a general KDE bug
[00:11] <EagleScreen> which protocol are you ising in Kopete?
[00:12] <heroicwisdom> I am using AIM + MSN, but the problem is with my webcam connected and i go to settings ---> configure, kopete crashes
[00:12] <heroicwisdom> before i even attempt to mak ea connection
[00:19] <Lord_drachenblut> anyone run across gstreamer-properties not maintaining a configuration setting afer it is closed
[00:20] <EagleScreen> heroicwisdom: you may test with other applications
[00:21] <EagleScreen> for MSN tou can use amsn
[00:21] <heroicwisdom> hmm ok i will look into that
[00:22] <heroicwisdom> it offers webcam support i trust?
[00:22] <EagleScreen> amsn does
[00:22] <heroicwisdom> ok thanks
[00:23] <EagleScreen> heroicwisdom: Kubuntu 9.04 will be released soon, it will come with KDE 4.2.2 which may have that Kopete bug fixed
[00:25] <heroicwisdom> EagleScreen: ok then, i am installing amsn now, hopefully that will offer at least a temp soltion. 9.04 is due out soon anyway. I can make due with windows if I have to... :(
[00:32] <heroicwisdom> EagleScreen: Ok this apps looks like it will do the job. Unfortuatly i can not test it yet. Thanks for your help
[00:32] <EagleScreen> you're welcome
[00:33] <chris__> Okay....anyone here run xp on Kubuntu?
[00:35] <MementoMori> hi
[00:36] <siachris> dang
[00:36] <MementoMori> if I install 904 beta will it upgrade to the final 904?
[00:36] <MementoMori> or should I reinstall it?
[00:36] <siachris> it's been a while since I've been runnin linux
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> MementoMori: you will upgrade into final
[00:37] <MementoMori> ActionParsnip: it actual beta installable and usable?
[00:38] <siachris> Running XP on a VM via ubuntu and need xp to be able to connect to the network so I can use files from the ubuntu partition
[00:38] <MementoMori> s/it/is
[00:38] <siachris> anyone have any idea?
[00:38] <jimmy51_home> !jaunty
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> MementoMori: it is here, ive seen folks have issues
[00:38] <jimmy51_home> ooooh, it's getting close!
[00:38] <MementoMori> siachris: your soulution is wrong
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> its been pushed back to august last i heard
[00:39] <White_Pelican> what has been pushed back to August?
[00:39] <MementoMori> siachris: if you use virtualbox you should use shared folder
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> siachris: you can set the VM to use the local folders in the VM to give access
[00:39] <siachris> shared.....that might work
[00:40] <MementoMori> siachris: not might. it will
[00:40] <siachris> thanks
[00:40] <MementoMori> urw
[00:40]  * MementoMori is going to +1
[00:40] <siachris> I'm buying SAM to use on my internet radio station and it needs windows.
[00:41] <siachris> I will give that a try.  I love places like this, people just know what to do.
[00:42] <MementoMori> siachris: so you dont love places. you love people
[00:42] <MementoMori> ;)
[00:42] <siachris> I'm going to get my cheekan on the grill now.  Thanks again, people
[00:42] <siachris> right
[00:42] <siachris> :)
[00:42] <MementoMori> cus
[00:42] <siachris> talk to you soon.
[00:50] <tim> Will there be any future support of hotway and hotsmtp in Jaunty?  I noticed it is not in the repositories.
[01:39] <picketfence> Ok, I'll try this again. I finally got this Komputer to use the eth0, but it still won't use the wireless.
[01:39] <picketfence> I've even tried the bcm43xx-fwcutter, and it still won't work.
[01:39] <picketfence> Any thoughts?
[01:42] <picketfence> anyone?
[01:44] <picketfence> Ok, then would anyone know where I can go to find an answer?
[01:44] <picketfence> I really need this Komputer to go wireless.
[01:46]  * picketfence wonders what this room is really for...
[01:48] <picketfence> Even if you don't know, an answer that says as much is better than me thinking that nobody pays attention in here.
[01:49] <carpii__> thats how irc works, if you dont know theres no point saying 'no idea'
[01:49] <carpii__> the chan would be full of spam
[01:49] <carpii__> try using the ubuntu forums if noone can help you here
[01:50] <picketfence> Thank you. And sorry about that, I didn't realize.
[02:21] <whuang> Hi, I'm still using Kubuntu 8.04 LTS, how could I upgrade my KDE from 4.1.2 to the latest 4.2.2? Thx
[02:25] <tsimpson> whuang: Kubuntu 8.04 is not LTS, only Ubuntu 8.04. and 4.1.2 is the latest version available
[02:25] <tsimpson> unless you upgrade to 8.10 or 9.04 (out soon)
[02:51] <jason> wonder if someone could help me get my wireless card working?
[02:51] <embraceunity_> ndiswrapper
[02:52] <embraceunity_> if that isn't the answer to all your wireless problems, then I don't know
[02:52] <jason> right, just look that up in adept?
[02:52] <embraceunity_> yea, then get the windows driver
[02:52] <embraceunity_> and tell ndiswrapper about it
[02:53] <jason> hmm, ok. having trouble find what card I have. anyway to list hardware?
[02:53] <dwidmann> for pci devices, lspci
[02:54] <dwidmann> to get more or less everything, lshw
[02:56] <jason> ok looks like  broadcom bcm4318?
[02:56] <jason> I remember something about blacklisting broadcom?
[02:56] <dwidmann> maybe this page could be of some use ...
[02:56] <dwidmann> !wireless
[02:57] <jason> thank you
[02:57] <jason> I'll let you know how it turns out
[03:03] <d3jake> I am trying to install Kubuntu 8.04.2 onto a Compaq NC6000. I already have this install of Kubuntu on here, but it is a much older version. I decided to just reinstall with a newer ISO version. Everytime I try to boot I can tell it to run w/o installing anything, but after a few seconds the CD drive stops spinning, and then after a few minutes it gives an error which I don't have. Any clues why this is happening?
[03:04] <d3jake> I have a CD-R with a copy of Kubuntu with KDE4.1, but since i prefer KDE3, I was trying to install with this other disc of mine.
[03:09] <d3jake> On KDE4, is there a way to change how many programs are stacked on the taskbar instead of programs stacked beside each other?
[03:14] <victor__> how can i go into another irc server on konversation?
[03:20] <whuang> tsimpson: thank you, I got it, so sorry to hear that only ubuntu 8.04 is LTS and kubuntu 8.04 not.
[03:21] <tsimpson> the base system is, just non of the KDE packages
[03:22] <victor__> how can i go into another irc server on konversation?
[03:28] <avpx> Hey guys. I'm trying to print out some photos in digiKam without much luck
[03:28] <avpx> I cannot seem to figure out how to just print a whole album and have it formatted normally (with a few photos per page)
[04:05] <kiril> .
[04:06] <embraceunity_> .
[04:15] <tangtang> hi everybody !
[04:18] <tux> Hi
[04:19] <tangtang> hi tux !
[04:19] <tux> tangtang
[04:19] <tangtang> can we speaking something ?
[04:19] <tux> yes
[04:19] <tangtang> oh !
[04:20] <tangtang> where are you come from ?
[04:20] <tux> I from Uruguay!
[04:20] <tux> and you?
[04:20] <tangtang> I from Vietnam
[04:20] <tux> oh
[04:21] <tux> so far!
[04:21] <tangtang> yes
[04:25] <tangtang> Do you understand why the numlock, caps lock and scroll don't turn on ?
[04:26] <tangtang> its always working but i don't know why the led dont turn on
[04:28] <tux> O.o
[04:58] <yaa_> hi! which way one can send a mail to external mail server from console
[05:01] <weedar> yaa_: You could use telnet to manually send your email, but I'm guessing you're looking for a console email-client?
[05:02] <yaa_> yes
[05:02] <yaa_> telnet is not comfortable to use(
[05:14] <weedar> yaa_: "mutt" maybe? It's a mail-reader at least, not sure if you can send through it though :)
[05:14] <bopr> how do i get rid of the stupid box on the left of my amarok?
[05:14] <yaa_> weedar /thank you/ i will try
[05:22] <mattparry> hi! I have a symbolic link as ln -s /dev/ttysm0 /dev/modem - how to make this perminate so that I dont have to keep setting it everytime i turn on the computer?
[05:24] <weedar> mattparry: You could add the command to /etc/rc.local ?
[05:24] <mattparry> thanks weedar - so I need to add 'sudo' to it?
[05:24] <Ogredude> hah
[05:24] <Ogredude> I just painted myself into a corner
[05:25] <weedar> mattparry: I think rc.local is already run as root
[05:25] <mattparry> weedar: Thanks I will try that!!
[05:25] <Ogredude> I just got done partitioning my 8GB SD card with a 2GB EXT2 partition as partition #1, and the other 6GB as FAT32 LBA.  It appears to have written the partition tables correctly.
[05:25] <Ogredude> Now, how do I figure out which block device to do mkfs.ext2 on?
[05:26] <Ogredude> these are my available block devices... /dev/mmcblk0  /dev/mmcblk0p1
[05:27] <weedar> mattparry: That works on Centos, but now I see that Debian expects a different method: Read 11.6 here http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.en.html
[05:28] <weedar> Ogredude: Does "sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0" work? If so the command "p" will display the partition table
[05:29] <Ogredude> ahhh
[05:30] <Ogredude> yeah, I think I partitioned the wrong one
[05:30] <Ogredude> when kubuntu started, the card was mounted from /dev/mmcblk0p1 so that's the one I fed to fdisk
[05:30] <Ogredude> so I think I'll wipe this partition table out and try again on /dev/mmcblk0
[05:40] <Ogredude> there, that's a lot more clear
[05:41] <Ogredude> I now have /dev/mmcblk0, /dev/mmcblk0p1, /dev/mmcblk0p2
[05:41] <Ogredude> and if fdisk followed my instructions, /dev/mmcblk0p1 will be the ext2 partition
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[05:48] <werdan7> alecks: please stop
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[05:48] <Ogredude> wow
[05:49] <Ogredude> that was amusing
[06:13] <mattparry> Hi thank you weedar - the symbolic link is working on startup now - thank you
[06:14] <mattparry> ok - next question - I have installed kppp, when I go to launch it it asked for the sudo password - how can I get it to not ask for a password - thanks!!!!!
[06:15] <noaXess> good morning
[06:16] <noaXess> how can i disable autostart of gidance-power-manager?
[06:16] <noaXess> guidance-
[06:28] <inteliwasp> so, i am trying to manualy install the nvidia drivers and i need to know how to stop the x server from the terminal
[06:42] <khjh> anyone good with c++ here??
[07:56] <Unibob|laptop> anyone alive?
[07:56] <genii> Barely
[07:57] <Unibob|laptop> lol
[07:58]  * ActionParsnip is dead
[07:58] <Unibob|laptop> just a quick question, with an HDA Intel audio setup, what channel would CD audio use?  tried playing an audio cd and there is no sound, all other system audio works.  have a dell XPS M1530 laptop
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[08:00] <genii> Intel HDA is notorious already for sound probs
[08:00] <genii> eg:
[08:00] <genii> !intelhda
[08:01] <Unibob|laptop> hmmm...it's only CD audio that has the issue so far that I have seen
[08:01] <Unibob|laptop> but thx.  :)
[08:01] <Unibob|laptop> looking that up now.
[08:06] <Unibob|laptop> just got the restricted codecs, stuck @ the sun java screen, can't hit ok...
[08:06] <Unibob|laptop> been too long since I have worked with linux.  :/
[08:08] <thirdy> hi I'm new to Kubuntu, I got a fresh 8.10 kubuntu. any site like fedorasolved for kubuntu?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: what does it do?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: use tab
[08:09] <thirdy> ActionParsnip: how to's
[08:09] <Unibob|laptop> thx...that came back quick, lol.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: what do you want to do?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: ;)
[08:10] <thirdy> ActionParsnip: mp3,jdk,eclipse
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> !mp3
[08:10] <Unibob|laptop> should have remembered that from the days of red hat 5.  :/
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> !java
[08:10] <thirdy> that's my primary need now
[08:10] <thirdy> thanks!
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> !info eclipse
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: eclipse is in repos
[08:11] <Unibob|laptop> have my desktop upgrading it's distro to 8.10.  I really hope I don't have the issues I had upgrading to 8.04, where the upgrade killed my install.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: if you need something, hit any search engine and search for stuff like    ubuntu install eclipse     or similar, the ubuntuforums are pretty sweet also
[08:12] <Unibob|laptop> thanks for all the help guys.  :)
[08:13] <Unibob|laptop> probably shouldn't be doing this at 03:12, but then again, I'm a night own with an internal clock flashing "12:00" the past few years.
[08:13] <Unibob|laptop> night owl even
[08:14] <thirdy> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[08:18] <Unibob|laptop> ah ha...cd audio muted because the surround was muted in the mixer...figured it was something simple like that, lol.
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: nice, its always something little
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: well, thats what my girlfriend says ;)
[08:19] <Unibob|laptop> now...desktop is in install portion of upgrade, no errors so far...
[08:19] <Unibob|laptop> and...oh snap
[08:20] <Unibob|laptop> my ex said something along those lines, then I had everyone else laughing when I said something back...good times.
[08:20] <Unibob|laptop> won't repeat it in here tho
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> hehe. textbook
[08:21] <Unibob|laptop> I've heard people having issues with wireless with these laptops, I just enabled the "restricted" driver and it's working flawlessly so far, even after 4 or 5 reboots
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: depends on the wifi chip
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: some chips are better supported than others
[08:27] <Unibob|laptop> not entirely sure which one mine is, but as long as it works, I'm happy, go to hotels and stuff when I am at army reserve weekends, and they only have WiFi
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: lspci will tell you, sounds like an intel or an old-ish atheros
[08:29] <Unibob|laptop> most likely
[08:33] <thirdy> just a simple end-user question, the taskbar gets crowded easily, is there any adjusment I can do?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: you can enable grouping
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: do you mean running apps or the things near the time?
[08:36] <thirdy> both
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: i get rid of most of the little widgets on the right as I personally dont need them
[08:37] <Unibob|laptop> now...I just need to get all my media files off of my desktop's NTFS partition...it possible to copy the files over LAN?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: i think kde does app grouping on the taskbar
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: sure, share the folder in windows as normal and you can type   smb://<windows pc name>/<share name>  and you can access that data
[08:38] <thirdy> hmm,..
[08:38] <Unibob|laptop> aight, cool, it'll be a rather large transfer, hopefully no snags.
[08:39] <thirdy> ActionParsnip: can I easily disable effects?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: sure, run systemsettings
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: http://fosswire.com/post/2009/01/quickly-disable-desktop-effects/
[08:47] <thirdy> ActionParsnip: nice! thanks! feels much greater now
[08:47] <kbmaniac_> Hi all, I installed 9.04 on a system with a Asus ATI Radeon HD 3650 card, worked great, added suggested ati hardware driver & BOOM !
[08:47] <kbmaniac_> Any idea how I can revert ?
[08:48] <ForgeAus> revert to what?
[08:48] <kbmaniac_> revert to pre-driver loading,
[08:48] <kbmaniac_> all I am getting now is a blank screen flashing a desktop
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | kbmaniac_
[08:48] <kbmaniac_> every 20 - 30 secs
[08:48] <ForgeAus> oh, uh, not sure you can use control+alt+F1 to go to a text mode and login...
[08:48] <ForgeAus> then: sudo apt-get remove <packagename> if you know what package
[08:49] <kbmaniac_> oh OK no probs :)
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: i hate all those effects too
[08:49] <ForgeAus> but I don't know a textmode xorg.conf
[08:49] <ForgeAus> its not about the 3rd party effects its about the video driver
[08:49] <ForgeAus> personally I'd definitely sudo apt-get install mc
[08:50] <ForgeAus> (since midnight commander is awesome for filemanagement in textmode)
[08:52] <thirdy> ActionParsnip: next thing I don't like is everything is so bright, hurts my eyes
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> thirdy: use laptop buttons maybe?
[08:54] <thirdy> ActionParsnip: ?, I meant the theme
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> have fun
[08:54] <thirdy> i'm really thinking of switching to ubuntu
[08:55] <ForgeAus> kubuntu is better... even KDE4's starting to get good
[08:55] <ForgeAus> (sure its still on kde3 but its becoming worthwile)
[08:55] <Unibob|laptop> never thought I would like KDE4, but I'm starting to
[08:56] <Unibob|laptop> keyboard is tripping out on me, lol, think it's heat related.
[08:56] <genii> We're all gonna have to like kde4 sooner or later
[08:56] <Unibob|laptop> I think it's a nice change personally
[08:56]  * genii hugs his 3.5.10 !
[08:57] <Unibob|laptop> wish I could remember what version of KDE ran on Red Hat 5 and 6.  :/
[08:57] <Unibob|laptop> this was years ago mind you
[08:57] <genii> 1.2
[08:57] <Unibob|laptop> 1.2?  sounds about right
[08:57] <genii> Unibob|laptop: Thats what came with my RH 5.2
[08:58] <Unibob|laptop> meh, forgot that amarok and kaffiene don't like non-stop cd's
[08:58] <Unibob|laptop> always have that annoying pause in between tracks
[08:58] <thebe> I had pasted my problem in paste.ubuntu.com
[08:59] <thebe> could you tell me the solution??
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> thebe: we need the address of the paste
[09:01] <thebe> can i paste it here?? it is not so long!
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> thebe: in the address bar in the browser, you need to copy/paste that here
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> thebe: if its a pastebin, all we need is the link
[09:01] <thebe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146756/
[09:01] <thebe> its here
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> wtg ;D
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> thebe: IBM System Resource Controller ?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> thebe: can you telnet to the socket?
[09:04] <thirdy> i got used and comfortable with ubuntu/gnome, and I'm still a linux newbie, gonna switch to ubuntu now
[09:05] <Unibob|laptop> for once, it's looking to be a decent weekend in northern Michigan...50's Sunday.
[09:05] <thebe> could not resolve service or address message appears for telnet ECONNRESET command
[09:05] <Unibob|laptop> I personally didn't care for GNOME, Even red hat 5, I switched to KDE as soon as the computer tech/network admin showed me how...half of his computer lab was dual boot Windows 95/Linux
[09:06] <thebe> but from this ftp server I could download file
[09:06] <thebe> but no upload
[09:06] <Unibob|laptop> gah...I need a new debit card, I need to hit up beatport, lol.
[09:06] <thebe> but filename or directory name is created while I upload the file
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> thebe: then check your permissios to the folder, as well as your ftp permissions, can your username upload data or only create folders
[09:08] <thebe> I changed directory permission with chown 777 /thebe command, where thebe is folder in ftp server where I could not upload
[09:08] <thebe> how to check it, i am new user!! Fun to play with linux
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> thebe: you need to configure the ftp server to allow you to upload
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> thebe: 777 is not necessary as long as you are the owner of the data then 700 is fine
[09:12] <thebe> can I paste vsftpd.conf file??
[09:12] <thebe> and etc/ftpusers file??
[09:12] <genii> Not here
[09:12] <genii> thebe: Please use pastebin if you do this
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[09:17] <thebe> ActionParsnip, I became unsuccessful to paste it
[09:17] <thebe> sorry
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> thebe: if you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> thebe: you can pastebin from command line
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> thebe: pastebinit /etc/vsftpd.conf     will then output a link which you can copy from terminal and paste here
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> thebe: assuming thats the location of the file
[09:20] <thebe> http://pastebin.com/f1530070d
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> thebe: great insnt it :D
[09:22] <thebe> I am learning day by day! Thank you ActionParsnip, I learnt how to paste! Hurray.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> thebe: i dont know about ftp servers
[09:27] <Unibob|laptop> updating, probably should close Konversation.
[09:27] <thebe> there is thebe folder in ftp server, and is it chown 700 /thebe command to permit to write there??
[09:27] <Unibob|laptop> bbiab gusy
[09:27] <Unibob|laptop> guys*
[09:48] <thebe> Anyway Thank U veeery much ActionParnship
[09:48] <thebe> now let me know how to view file and directory permission in the system
[09:48] <thebe> any of you??
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> thebe: np bro
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ls -la <file or folder>
[09:53] <Unibob|laptop> what media players can use *.asx files?  any in Linux?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Unibob|laptop: vlc i believe
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> and amarok
[09:54] <Unibob|laptop> don't have vlc on here...yet.
[09:54] <Unibob|laptop> gonna check amarok.  :)
[09:56] <Unibob|laptop> this is gonna be a task...it's a secure link, so I have to manually open it via the browser, it cannot be saved.
[09:59] <altrortla> !sql
[09:59] <altrortla> ! SQL
[09:59] <altrortla> !mysql
[10:00] <altrortla> ! info sql
[10:00] <altrortla> !info mysql
[10:00] <altrortla> !find mysql
[10:00] <altrortla> #sql
[10:01] <ForgeAus> is kgopher a package in kubuntu?
[10:01] <ForgeAus> !info kgopher
[10:01] <ForgeAus> !info kio_gopher
[10:03] <altrortla> #find mysql channel
[10:03] <keldrona> Hiya guys... got a problem... I use Kubuntu 8.10, I'm trying to connect to internet with my mobile via bluetooth, I'm trying using wvdial but it asks me averytime for a pin, and tells me that can't connect. Any idea? thank you!
[10:03] <altrortla> !find mysql channel
[10:03] <altrortla> !find mysql kubuntu
[10:03] <altrortla> !find mysql hardy
[10:06] <Unibob|laptop> had to get mplayer and get the mplayer-mozilla packages to do it...that works, lol.
[10:07] <Mamarok> altrortla: what are you trying to find?
[10:10] <Unibob|laptop> now I can listen to Digitally Imported's OnDemand (Premium perk) in linux, yay!
[10:10] <Unibob|laptop> now I just need to wait 17-18 hours for 120 GB of data from my desktop to finish transferring onto here.  >.>
[10:33] <keldrona> where is hcid.conf in kubuntu 8.10?
[10:35] <t0sha> Народ за помощью на какой канал обратиться?
[10:35] <noren> t0sha: only english here
[10:35] <BlueEagle> !ru t0sha
[10:35] <yaa__> ыгвф
[10:35] <BlueEagle> !ru|t0sha
[10:35] <yaa__> sudy
[10:35] <t0sha> thx
[10:36] <BlueEagle> It's in the manual. ;)
[10:36] <genii> keldrona: /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[10:37] <keldrona> genii: there isn't
[10:37] <genii> keldrona: It doesn't always exist by default
[10:38] <keldrona> genii: really, I don't have it... :-(
[10:39] <keldrona> genii: can I create?
[10:40] <Unibob|laptop> is there a "general chat" room on this network?  forgot, it's been awhile since I have been in here.
[10:43] <jussi01> Unibob|laptop: several
[10:43] <genii> keldrona: Here is the default one from my machine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/146817/
[10:43] <jussi01> Unibob|laptop: #ubuntu-offtopic, #kubuntu-offtopic ##defocus
[10:44] <Unibob|laptop> thx Jussi
[10:46] <Unibob|laptop> gah...d/c
[10:47] <altrortla> Mamarok: I buddy... now I read you
[10:48] <blaaadeik> 123
[10:48] <blaaadeik> sorry
[10:48] <altrortla> Mamarok: I'm trying to find a way to install Apache - mySql - PHP (lamp) on my kubuntu... (i've done installations - but I haven't found furter information about LAMP)
[10:49] <altrortla> Mamarok: i got several error ... but i don't know how to install a web server on my kubutnu
[10:50] <altrortla> Mamarok: i think that actuall installation my be dump...
[10:51] <keldrona_> no, really, I've got problem with pairing
[10:51] <altrortla> Mamarok: I need somebody who help me with understanding installation and verify it
[11:00] <Mamarok> altrortla: sry, was afk
[11:00] <Mamarok> have you done a LAMP installation before?
[11:00] <Mamarok> !LAMP
[11:01] <Mamarok> altrortla: ^^
[11:03] <altrortla> Mamarok: no i haven't
[11:05] <Mamarok> altrortla: check the help site I posted above, also there are a lot of howto's available on the web for LAMP installations
[11:09] <yaa__> Wenn auch gleich aus der Hoellen
[11:10] <genii> German channel is #kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de
[11:11] <newuser> hi
[11:12] <newuser> how to view each partition and their size (ussed and free) in command line?
[11:12] <dwidmann> df -h
[11:12] <newuser> thanks
[11:13] <eagles0513875> !de yaa__
[11:14] <eagles0513875> !de | yaa__
[11:14] <yaa__> why i can not su root
[11:14] <eagles0513875> !root | yaa__
[11:14] <eagles0513875> yaa__: for sudo its usually the password you use to login
[11:14] <yaa__> i mean i make passwd root
[11:15] <eagles0513875> yaa__: why do you want to use su
[11:15] <yaa__> just to understand
[11:15] <eagles0513875> yaa__: instead of using su use sudo -i its an interactive version of su
[11:15] <yaa__> how it works
[11:15] <eagles0513875> uses the user acount to become root
[11:15] <yaa__> i know
[11:15] <yaa__> i want su root
[11:16] <genii> yaa__: In ubuntu and kubuntu there is no root account
[11:16] <yaa__> on ubuntu server-- without gui
[11:16] <eagles0513875> yaa__: then use sudo -i
[11:16] <eagles0513875> that well get you to root on ubuntu server
[11:16] <yaa__> but if i do adduser
[11:17] <yaa__> it says root exists
[11:17] <newuser> okay df -h display the information, in which file the information is stored??
[11:17] <yaa__> i can get in restore mode
[11:17] <yaa__> as root
[11:17] <eagles0513875> yaa__: you mean in single user
[11:17] <yaa__> but canot passwd the pass
[11:18] <genii> yaa__: There is no password.
[11:18] <eagles0513875> yaa__: what is your native language russian or german
[11:18] <eagles0513875> it might be easier if you ask in the channel where the language you speak often is spoken
[11:19] <yaa__> i can understand/ my spoken english is not well)
[11:19] <BlueEagle> yaa__: Just out of curiousity... why do you want to su root when you can sudo -s?
[11:19] <eagles0513875> BlueEagle: sudo -i is better i found out
[11:20] <yaa__> just because i want to understand it
[11:20] <yaa__> how it works
[11:20] <eagles0513875> BlueEagle: it uses the users current profile
[11:21] <MunichMatt> hi all, i have a problem with deleting a printer
[11:22] <BlueEagle> eagles0513875: Well, it has been my experience that applications that rely on environment variables shouldn't be run as root in the first place. ;)
[11:22] <BlueEagle> munichmatt: Care to elaborate?
[11:22] <eagles0513875> BlueEagle: i know i dont have no issues with using sudo
[11:22] <MunichMatt> the printer is connected via USB to a second computer and over CUPS on my main computer. Since the IP of the second computer has changed, I wanted to change the IP in the printer settings too
[11:22] <eagles0513875> BlueEagle: only time i use root is when running the command for apt-build world  to get a list of all packages installed
[11:23] <MunichMatt> but I was not able to do it.So i simply set up a new printer, with the correct IP, which works well. But I am still left with the old printer, which i cannot delete.
[11:24] <BlueEagle> munichmatt: are you unable to find the command to delete it or do you recieve an error message when attempting to delete it?
[11:25] <MunichMatt> i opened systemsettings - printer (kde 3.5.10), then turned into admin-mode
[11:25] <BlueEagle> ...and?
[11:26] <MunichMatt> one click on the printer, that i want to delete but i cannot press delete, because it is faded out
[11:27] <starenka> hi, where can i find disk managemebnt tool in kde4?
[11:27] <starenka> (kinda lazy to fstab)
[11:27] <altrortla> general question ... i got this when i try to access to a channel ..."You need to be identified to join that channel" what should i do?
[11:27] <MunichMatt> by the way, i can neither delete the printer under http://localhost:631/printers/
[11:30] <starenka> whats kde4 equivalent for Disk Manager from kde 3
[11:33] <BlueEagle> munichmatt: Did you try removing the printer with lpadmin?
[11:34] <MunichMatt> BlueEagle: no, not yet
[11:35] <BlueEagle> munichmatt: Then I suggest you try that to see if it works.
[11:40] <MunichMatt> BlueEagle: Thanks, it worked. Can I rename a printer via lpadmin too?
[11:42] <Unibob|laptop> is there a need to defrag the linux file system?
[11:43] <sveni26> hey is here a chan for unr?
[11:43] <Unibob|laptop> if so, what is a good utility?
[11:43] <sven_> hm
[11:43] <Unibob|laptop> no idea, I'm new to this network.
[11:43] <Mamarok> Unibob|laptop: no, you don't have to defragment an ext filesystem
[11:44] <Unibob|laptop> alright, thx
[11:44] <Mamarok> only FAT and NTFS need defragmentation
[11:44] <Unibob|laptop> I think linux is officially the new operating system on this beast, it runs soooooo much smoother than Vista...so far.
[11:45] <Unibob|laptop> only exception being the touchpad, but that was flakey in vista anyway
[11:45] <ForgeAus> Unibob, Vista32 or Vista64?
[11:45] <Unibob|laptop> 32
[11:45] <ForgeAus> no drivers for your 64 bit hardware uh?
[11:46] <Unibob|laptop> they are there, just didn't have the option of a 64 bit o/s when I ordered it.
[11:46] <ForgeAus> sorry no 64bit drivers for your hardware I should have said..
[11:46] <ForgeAus> hmm ok, I guess... vista64 isn't all that bad apparently its quite nice, but I haven't tried it personally
[11:47] <Unibob|laptop> it's actually very stable.
[11:47] <ForgeAus> (it does make use of ram above 4gig)
[11:47] <ForgeAus> I've only used Vista32... personally I don't have a complaint I just like Kubuntu and OSX and XP better thats all
[11:47] <Unibob|laptop> providing you have the need for it, my desktop has 6 gigs of ram, and it runs pretty smooth, apart from the occasional video driver crash
[11:48] <Unibob|laptop> brb, nature break
[11:52] <Mamarok> Unibob|laptop: same here, have a 64bit system with 4G of RAM, and it came with a Vista 32 preinstalled
[11:52] <Mamarok> not it runs a 64bit Kubuntu :)
[11:53] <Unibob|laptop> back
[11:54] <Mamarok> now* even...
[11:54] <BlueEagle> munichmatt: If you consult the man-page I guess you could find out.
[12:07] <MunichMatt> BlueEagle: Thanks for your help. the renamin does not seem to be possible.
[12:07]  * noukist kalimeres
[12:08] <newuser> how to delete non-empty directory in cli??
[12:11] <carpii__> rm -rf dirname
[12:11] <m4v> newuser: "man rm" and read a bit
[12:11] <newuser> thank you
[12:11] <carpii__> be careful ;)
[12:22] <ne0> ))
[12:26] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:28] <Unibob|laptop> Mornin'
[12:29] <newuser> I have /dev/sda2 and sda3 partition, home directory is in sda3. sda2 is unused.
[12:30] <newuser> how could I get there to use it??
[12:30] <newuser> I am confused of this!
[12:30] <newuser> cud u tell me?
[12:30] <Unibob|laptop> I can't, but hang tight, someone will help soon
[12:31] <yaa__> does anybody know how to set a password for root acc?
[12:31] <SlimeyPete> !mount
[12:31] <SlimeyPete> ^^ newuser
[12:31] <yaa__> not using gui?
[12:31] <SlimeyPete> yaa__: sudo passwd
[12:31] <newuser> hi SmileyPete
[12:31] <yaa__> does not work
[12:31] <yaa__> for root
[12:32] <Unibob|laptop> Ubuntu doesn't use root.
[12:32] <yaa__> does
[12:32] <Unibob|laptop> well, it does, but it's much more heavily locked then the old days of Linux
[12:33] <SlimeyPete> yaa__: try "sudo su" then "passwd"
[12:33] <yaa__> sudo konsole-----u have root
[12:33] <SlimeyPete> but why do you want a root password? sudo is the usual way to do things as root in ubuntu
[12:33] <yaa__> i want to understand how it works
[12:34] <yaa__> this ubu feature
[12:34] <yaa__> OMG
[12:38] <yaa__> WHY is not question..the question is HOW))
[12:40] <newinLinux> in which file df -h command output is stored??
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:43] <Unibob|laptop> mornin'
[12:43] <Unibob|laptop> or should I say wb?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> wb and afternoon ;)
[12:47] <Unibob|laptop> hmmm...how do I check my current version of Kubuntu?
[12:48] <newinLinux> Actionparnship, from which file the df -h command get those line??
[12:48] <Unibob|laptop> I know I'm not running 8.20.  don't think I'm running 8.04 either and not getting the upgrade notice.  -.-
[12:48] <Unibob|laptop> err...8.10, my bad
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: huh?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Unibob|laptop , lsb_release -a
[12:49] <Unibob|laptop> actually, I am running 8.10, sweet.
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: lsb_release -c  ;)
[12:49] <newinLinux> I want to paste the output of df -h in pastebin
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: df -h | pastebinit
[12:49] <newinLinux> if there is file, then I knew because of you before,
[12:49] <newinLinux> okay
[12:49] <newinLinux> thanks bro
[12:49] <Unibob|laptop> thx
[12:50] <Unibob|laptop> hence the lack of upgrade...already up to date until next release.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> yeah ActionParsnip, but I'm a verbose kinda guy :)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: hehe
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> i have my moments
[12:50] <zorael> With what command do I patch files with only the information I got from http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20997#c1 ? In other words, no .patch file, but just those lines
[12:51] <newinLinux> http://pastebin.com/f1530810e
[12:51] <newinLinux> ActionParsnip, need your help, qn is in other link. send u now
[12:51] <Unibob|laptop> going afk for awhile...bbl
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: qn?
[12:52] <newinLinux> http://pastebin.com/f15308a0e
[12:53] <newinLinux> sorry this is here
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: wow thats some poor partitioning dude
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: your / partition is 67Gb and only 3% used
[12:56] <newinLinux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146902/
[12:57] <newinLinux> hi here is the question
[12:58] <newinLinux> how could i use that 67 gb??
[12:58] <newinLinux> !mount, but i did not get, just error message
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: you can create a folder on / some place and create a symlink to it from you home folder
[13:00] <newinLinux> how it is done??
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: you will need to set the owner to your username and chmod it 750. you will then be able to access the link in your home dir and it will feel like a normal folder but the ACTUAL storage is done on the other partition. If you do any backups you MUST tell it to follow symlinks
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: otherwise the linked data will be missed
[13:01] <newinLinux> symlinks?? cud you tell me??
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: a symlink gives the impression to the OS that a file or folder exists, when its really just a link, its like a windows shortcut but gives more flexibility than allowing to execute something easier
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: something like this will sort you out. read and understand the command before you run it though
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: sudo mkdir /media/extra; sudo chown $USER /media/extra; sudo chmod 750 /media/extra; ln -s /media/extra ~/extra
[13:04] <newinLinux> I will try it
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: now when you copy files to ~/extra they will actually be copied to /media/extra (which is on you / partition)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: you can rename the link to whatever you like
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: do yo uunderstand what is going on there?
[13:06] <newinLinux> okay
[13:06] <newinLinux> trying
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> the first bits make a folder but it will be owned by root, so ne next bits give the folder to your username with full access
[13:08] <ayman> hi all
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: fyi, if you type cd ~/extra in terminal you will see the folders as you would expect a normal cd command to work, if you cd .. (or hit up in nautilus etc) it will go back to your home dir and NOT /media
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> !hi ayman
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> !hi | ayman
[13:09] <newinLinux> hurray I got the directory now
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: you can copy and paste to the konsole, thats why i gave the whole command
[13:09] <clau30> hi. I broke my keyboard layout settings. Anyone know what do to / which package to dpkg-reconfigure? There isn't anything appearing in system setting (kde4)
[13:09] <administrator_> hi everybody
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> newinLinux: but if youwanna type it thats fine too
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard
[13:10] <ayman> this is my first time here
[13:10] <administrator_> hope today someone can help me today... because yesterday I had no luck...
[13:10] <newinLinux> I am now uploading file there and will see which space is consumed !
[13:10] <administrator_> !nick Arminius_
[13:10] <ur8up> anyone having trouble with kubuntu freezing every night.  I lock my desktop and every morning i have to reset the power button.
[13:10] <clau30> !keyboard
[13:11] <newinLinux> hurray, thank you very much, it is being used now
[13:11] <Arminius_> is there somebody who has some time to help me with a serious problem yesterday nobody could fix?
[13:11] <newinLinux> bad partition, did i need to have small primary partition during installation??
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Arminius_ , that statment is really going to attract help :)
[13:12] <Arminius_> ;)
[13:12] <Arminius_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1385280
[13:12] <Arminius_> could you have a look
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Arminius_, looking
[13:13] <Arminius_> and tell me why Adept is trying to kill itself?
[13:13] <Arminius_> thanks a lot!
[13:13] <Arminius_> the packages it wants to remove are critical!
[13:13] <Arminius_> and I tried sudo apt-get upgrade too, but that just updated some packages, not KDE
[13:14] <Arminius_> because I tried to get from 4.1 to 4.2
[13:14] <Arminius_> thanks for your time and help :)
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Arminius_ , have you updated the sources.list to fetch the required new packages ... just doing a dist-upgrade won't cut it .
[13:15] <Arminius_> I know
[13:15] <Arminius_> I did also apt-get update
[13:15] <ur8up> anyone having trouble with kubuntu freezing every night.  I lock my desktop and every morning i have to reset the power button.
[13:15] <Arminius_> but it's the fact that it wants to remove those critical packages that isn't ok... :s
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Arminius_ , post your sources.list , thenmaybe we'll know what's going on
[13:16] <Arminius_> instead of just upgrading them...
[13:16] <Arminius_> ok
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ur8up: used to but then switched to fluxbox, seems ok in jaunty for me
[13:16] <Arminius_> just a sec ;)
[13:16] <ur8up> ok not sure how to do that
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ur8up: i'd wait for official release, or you could try ssh in from another system and kill kdm
[13:20] <Arminius_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1385941
[13:20] <Arminius_> there you go :)
[13:22] <ur8up> ok i have been reading some info on hibernate and wakeup is this an issue?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> ur8up: sounds like it
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> ur8up: you could head to screen saver settings and make sure they are disabled and the screen is not set to hibernate etc
[13:25] <donG_> anyone running kubuntu in vmware fusion ?
[13:26] <ur8up> i will try that tahks
[13:26] <ur8up> thanks
[13:26] <nukedeath> kubuntu feels alot better than gnome
[13:27] <nukedeath> But why is there a delay when i press the kickoff?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> kickoff?
[13:27] <nukedeath> startbutton?
[13:27] <nukedeath> :P
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> o the k menu
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> not sure, are you using effects?
[13:28] <nukedeath> turned everything off
[13:28] <ur8up> thanks
[13:29] <nukedeath> Its like a 1 second delay it seems
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> nukedeath: have you installed video drivers as well as full updates?
[13:29] <nukedeath> Yes i have updated fylly
[13:29] <nukedeath> fully*
[13:30] <nukedeath> installed new drivers with envy... but since i got ATI.. that could be the entire problem xD
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> nukedeath: i'd blame that, envy sucks
[13:31] <cinco> hi
[13:31] <nukedeath> ActionParsnip: Hmm
[13:31] <nukedeath> I remove in "Hardware Drivers" and add the ones it reccommend
[13:32] <Arminius_> sorry but BluesKaj did you have a look?
[13:32] <newinLinux> http://pastebin.com/f68c6ff34/
[13:32] <newinLinux> don bother about this I am just practicing
[13:33] <nukedeath> It dosent seem to want to restart
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Arminius_, yeah , what version are you upgrading to ?
[13:33] <Arminius_> from 4.1 to 4.2
[13:33] <newinLinux> http://pastebin.com/f162d6804
[13:34] <cinco> my brother in law have a tsunami slider and he wants to install ubuntu in is laptop
[13:34] <Arminius_> at least trying to ;)
[13:34] <Arminius_> isn't the source correct?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Arminius_: you could let it have its fun then immediately run: sudo apt-get --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> oops
[13:35] <cinco>  i have the original cd but when i try to run it it bloks in the fase 2/7
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop
[13:35] <Arminius_> hem yeah but that's not how a normal update works isn't it?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Arminius_ , you need to upgrade your kde sources
[13:36] <Arminius_> ok
[13:36] <Arminius_> which line is wrong?
[13:36] <Arminius_> I added the last one just to get the update...
[13:36] <cinco> he former had W xp home edition
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Arminius_: the last line will reinstall all the apps that the install uninstalls
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> cinco: boot to live cd to test it out, if its all good, you can install to it
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> cinco: is it a laptop?
[13:37] <cinco> yes
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> cinco: just checking
[13:38] <Arminius_> ActionParsnip isn't there a softer way? like BluesKaj said with updating the kde sources?
[13:38] <Arminius_> what link should I add?
[13:38] <Arminius_> or remove?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Arminius_: not sure duder, you could test by commenting out repos and updating to see what it says
[13:40] <Arminius_> if I comment out the last line, it won't want ask to update anything...
[13:40] <Arminius_> could there be a bug in the source link?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> well thats the repo with all the new kde stuff on so its gonna act that way
[13:42] <Arminius_> yeah :s
[13:43] <Arminius_> it's just that I am afraid to mess up my system, that's why I don't want to remove and reinstall... it just doesn't sound right :s hoped there a simpler solution...
[13:43] <cinco> it runs with the cd
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Arminius_: its my suggestion, if you hold fire then someone else may have a better solution
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Arminius_: try asking later
[13:44] <Arminius_> ok thanks
[13:44] <Arminius_> I'll try :)
[13:44] <Arminius_> but thanks a lot :)
[13:45] <Arminius_> hoped that BluesKaj had that good solution and was about to give it to me ^^
[13:45] <cinco> i'm goin to try to install ubuntu by the net
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Arminius_ , join #kde for advice
[13:45] <Arminius_> ok thanks
[13:46] <Arminius_> bye ;)
[13:47] <nukedeath> The new drivers didnt change anything :p
[13:49] <nukedeath> ATI really sucks :(
[13:52] <cinco> it's blokin
[13:55] <cinco> i don't know what to do. maybe it's the laptop it's kinda old
[13:57] <puddle> Hey need some help it wont let me install a certain package i need.
[13:57] <puddle> : Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:57] <puddle> puddle@puddle-desktop:~$
[13:58] <puddle> What does that mean?
[13:58] <fosco_> close any other package manager
[13:58] <fosco_> such as adept or synaptic or so
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> puddle: do you have synaptic open?
[13:58] <puddle> i'll check
[13:58] <Dragnslcr> If you don't have anything else open, try this
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> puddle: are you running updates right now?
[13:58] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix
[13:58] <puddle> I typed sudo before the command
[13:59] <cinco> may i can run the 8.04 from my pen
[13:59] <cinco> ???
[13:59] <puddle> no i dont
[13:59] <puddle> okay i will try the second one :)
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> puddle: only ONE thing can interface with the packages so you must close all the others if yu want to use apt-get
[13:59] <puddle> thanks
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> puddle: if there is none open then you can use the !aptfix factoid above
[13:59] <puddle> what do you mean all the others?
[13:59] <puddle> kk
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> puddle: if you have synaptic open, apt-get cannot function as synaptic has locked the packages
[14:00] <puddle> ah okay
[14:00] <shadowhywind> hay all I was wondering if there was a command to see what programs are accessing the internet? (everytime i connect to a paticular wireless network, my download speed is constantly going and I want to know why)
[14:00] <puddle> i cant find it in my tray
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: ntop
[14:00] <puddle> so i dont think i have it open
[14:00] <puddle> :P
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> puddle: then run: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:01] <puddle> ok cheers
[14:01] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip: thanks will have to install it, and give it a try
[14:01] <rmrfslash_> 20 days until 9.04?
[14:01] <puddle> ok the command worked cheers :)
[14:02] <puddle> woooohooooo <3
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash_: ive heard its pushed back to august
[14:03] <rmrfslash_> yeah right.
[14:03] <Pici> I've heard that the official channel is #ubuntu+1
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Pici: i heard that too but it was in my bad ear
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[14:05] <rmrfslash_> I have a development question. I am using an ATI card w/ open source driver. Now, does the Kubuntu team typically aim to ensure working drivers etc.?
[14:06] <rmrfslash_> I realize the Kubuntu team doesn't develop these drivers
[14:06] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip: ok after running ntop, where is the file i need to open up witht he webbrowser?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: not sure, i only know OF the app
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> !info ntop
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FNtop&ei=eqHcSaWQHo-Ntger--H4DA&usg=AFQjCNGnlCP2_D0202zFzFl1s__XAp4hlQ
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> i hate google
[14:07] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip: I just found the ubuntu help file for it..
[14:07] <rmrfslash_> I hate firefox
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: http://localhost:3000
[14:08] <rmrfslash_> I like when ff uses 120% CPU
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash_: hit opera, its nifty
[14:08] <rmrfslash_> when will safari come to linux ;)
[14:08] <rmrfslash_> sucker is based on webkit afterall
[14:09] <rmrfslash_> safari 4 passes the latest ACID test
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash_: tried Epiphany?
[14:09] <newinLinux> Thank you to all of you and specially to Actionparnship! I am going to leave now!!
[14:09] <Eruaran> Is is worth the effort ?
[14:10] <engineer> rmrfslash_ does the lastest public non beta release of safari pass the acid test 3 ?
[14:10] <newinLinux> It was very nice to talk to you!! Fun and enjoy!
[14:10] <puddle> okay i have apt get command. But it comes up with package configuration and i still need to type more commands to get the package i need? I cant type anything though
[14:10] <rmrfslash_> ActionParsnip: no
[14:10] <puddle> Because its in the way :(
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash_: it can use webkit if its a big thing for you
[14:10] <shadowhywind> is there a command to check to see if there are any folders being "shared"
[14:11] <jason> just installed last night. Now I can't get firefox listed in adept. need help
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> jason: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[14:11] <rmrfslash_> ActionParsnip: It's not a big thing for me.... but I would assume that Safari would be easy to get workin on linux... I think Apple doesn't like linux :(
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash_: no idea, i hate apple
[14:12] <engineer> same hardware = double price tag
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> engineer: bingo
[14:12] <rmrfslash_> engineer: agreed
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> but its pretty :)
[14:12] <rmrfslash_> engineer: of course, you get OS X ;)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> pretty lame
[14:13] <engineer> not talking about the OS
[14:13] <engineer> it's good i believe
[14:14] <rmrfslash_> engineer: it's good. but... still not work $1000
[14:14] <rmrfslash_> worth
[14:14] <engineer> $128
[14:14] <engineer> not 1000
[14:14] <jason> ty for the help. THe update did it.
[14:14] <jason> not sure why adept update didn't list it though
[14:15] <rmrfslash_> engineer: I'm saying, if you buy a machine (say from dell) for like $1000 and then one from Apple that's identical specs for like $2000, the only thing you can say is that OS X cost you a first time fee of $1000
[14:15] <engineer> yep
[14:15] <rmrfslash_> engineer: updates are only $130
[14:15] <rmrfslash_> ;)
[14:15] <engineer> k
[14:15] <rmrfslash_> engineer: Apple sucks.
[14:15] <jussi01> !ot
[14:16] <rmrfslash_> crap... I was just pwned
[14:16] <engineer> i guess someone wants to save bandwidth
[14:16] <rmrfslash_> !pwn
[14:25] <DarkTan> are there any good virtual cd drive programs for linux?
[14:26] <fosco_> DarkriftX: yo do not need them
[14:26] <fosco_> just mount the iso file wherever you want
[14:27] <DarkTan> one: who is DarkriftX? 2 how do i mount the an .mdf?
[14:27] <DarkTan> ^_^
[14:29] <fosco_> if it is an iso file mount -t iso9660 file.iso /whereveryouwant
[14:29] <puddle> Package configuration
[14:29] <puddle>  ┌───────────────────────┤ Configuring sun-java6-jre ├───────────────────────┐
[14:29] <fosco_> -o loop (sorry)
[14:29] <puddle>  │                                                                           │
[14:29] <puddle>  │ Operating System Distributor License for Java v1.1 (DLJ)                  ↑
[14:29] <puddle>  │                                                                           ▮
[14:29] <puddle>  │ Operating System Distributor License for Java version 1.1 (DLJ)           ▒
[14:29] <DarkTan> they are .mdf /mds files
[14:29] <puddle>  │                                                                           ▒
[14:29] <puddle>  │ SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. ("SUN") IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE JAVA PLATFORM    ▒
[14:29] <puddle>  │ STANDARD EDITION DEVELOPER KIT ("JDK" - THE "SOFTWARE") TO YOU ONLY
[14:29] <puddle> ooops
[14:29] <puddle> Sorry
[14:29] <puddle> That is in the way how do i finish the install?
[14:29] <puddle> I cant type anywhere else :X
[14:30] <DarkTan> !pastebin | puddle
[14:30] <IppatsuMan> puddle: press tab to change the input focus on "ok", "accept" or whatever, then press enter
[14:30] <puddle> kk
[14:31] <puddle> ty so much IppatsuMan
[14:31] <puddle> :)
[14:31] <IppatsuMan> puddle: you're welcome :)
[14:48] <lokai> can't get the repository packages of python-gtk to work properly. python -c "import gtk" fails, when it clearly shouldn't.
[14:49] <lokai> any ideas whats going on?
[14:50] <declan> Hello Everyone. I'm looking for some help with sound on jaunty.
[14:52] <declan> Tried googling, ubuntu forums, messing about; no joy. Sound is completely dead. I have a V8237
[14:52] <declan> I would appreciate any help, pointers, or any help at all, really!
[14:53] <Unibob|laptop> Jaunty is a beta, you would probably have better luck in #ubuntu+1 as that is where the support for 9.04 is right now until it's released.   :)
[14:53] <declan> Cool. Thanks unibob
[14:53] <Unibob|laptop> yup, np
[14:53] <declan> I'll head over there. is there a Kubuntu+1?
[14:54] <spawn57> have any of you gotten google earth working on kubuntu? when I start it it says It can't identify my graphics card
[14:54] <Unksi> declan: that channel is for everything jaunty related
[14:55] <simone_> hello this is italian ubuntu channel?
[14:56] <simone_> where can I found it?
[14:56] <simone_> find*
[15:04] <thebe> http://pastebin.com/f74d0526a
[15:04] <thebe> this is my configuration file for samba
[15:05] <thebe> I could not connect to the server, the message is like 'server exists but verify that you typed the correct share folder and try again!'
[15:10] <thebe> hello
[15:22] <DarkTan> how much space does natulis take up and how i install it? sudi apt-get gnome?
[15:23] <jason> need help with sound. I have none. nothing is muted but no sound. I have Ati IXP sound. <--laptop
[15:23] <jason> just don't know where to go from here
[15:23] <engineer> apt-get install nautilus
[15:23] <engineer> but dolphin is far more superior
[15:23] <DarkTan> does it take up alot of space?
[15:24] <DarkTan> i'm using it for mounting disk images
[15:24] <engineer> try it and see it
[15:24]  * DarkTan like dolphin alot more
[15:24] <engineer> dolphin owns nautilus's ass
[15:25] <DarkTan> any idea who i can get dolphin to mount disk images?
[15:25] <DarkTan> the only thing i can find for .mdf files is through nautilus
[15:27] <DarkTan> how do i do this? "Download the Nautilus Actions Schemas for MOUNTING and UNMOUNTING disk images from within nautilus.
[15:27] <DarkTan> "(
[15:28] <DarkTan> "*
[15:48] <thebe> problem in samba configurations!
[15:49] <thebe> anyone to help me??
[15:53] <eagles0513875> thebe: you would need to be more specific then that and be patient if anyone knows how to help ya fix your problem they will respond
[15:55] <thebe> thank you, thank you
[15:55] <thebe> I could not share folder
[15:56] <eagles0513875> !samba
[15:56] <eagles0513875> thebe: im not sure if either of those linkx would help you
[15:57] <thebe> thank you, I will try
[16:01] <DarkTan> ok, i give up on the nautilus thing: anyone idea how i can moung mdf images?
[16:01] <eagles0513875> !mdf
[16:01] <eagles0513875> !images
[16:02] <eagles0513875> DarkTan: is this a cd image or picture
[16:02] <DarkTan> cd image
[16:02] <eagles0513875> k3b doesnt do that
[16:03] <DarkTan> does kde4 do it?
[16:03] <eagles0513875> hold on let me chec k3b on kde 4
[16:04] <eagles0513875> DarkTan: i would try it and see i dont have any mdf images that i can test with
[16:04] <fantastron> i think the mount -t iso9660 will work
[16:05] <DarkTan> how do i use that?
[16:05] <fantastron> http://lindesk.com/2007/05/how-to-mount-isomdf-images-in-linux/
[16:05] <eagles0513875> DarkTan: its really self explanatory to use
[16:05] <fantastron> mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.mdf directoryWhereYouwattomount
[16:06] <DarkTan> ok, will read and try, thx
[16:06] <loppin> ciao
[16:06] <eagles0513875> DarkTan: no prob bro
[16:06] <eagles0513875> !it | loppin
[16:06] <fantastron> if you want something with a gui
[16:06] <fantastron> you can utry this http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/06/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images.html
[16:30] <thebe> Yep, I configured samba, and share the file but I am unable to write in the shared file!
[16:30] <thebe> how it would be possible??
[16:30] <Mr_Grieves|> I'm using the 4.2.2 kde build in the ppa, and I'm running into this problem with cmake:
[16:30] <Mr_Grieves|> Unknown CMake command "macro_optional_find_package".
[16:31] <Mr_Grieves|> It looks like the kdelibs5-dev package should provide it, but that's already installed :/
[16:32] <eagles0513875> thebe: what exactly are you trying to do
[16:32] <eagles0513875> thebe: firstly are you on a machine that is setup to duel boot
[16:33] <thebe> No, I have two machine one with ubuntu server and the other with vista
[16:33] <tsimpson> Mr_Grieves|: it's defined in /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/MacroAddFileDependencies.cmake so "include(MacroAddFileDependencies)" is needed
[16:33] <eagles0513875> thebe: and you want to mount the windows share in linux right with read write access
[16:33] <thebe> and I found the shared folder in vista, but while I tried to write, I was unsuccessful
[16:34] <eagles0513875> i have a solution that way you can access the windows stuff from linux
[16:35] <eagles0513875> !smbfs | thebe
[16:35] <eagles0513875> !info smbfs | thebe
[16:36] <tsimpson> Mr_Grieves|: actually, it's in MacroOptionalFindPackage.cmake (kdelibs5-dev)
[16:37] <thebe> event not found error is displayed
[16:38] <Mr_Grieves|> tsimpson -- hmm, that file isn't there on my system.
[16:39] <tsimpson> Mr_Grieves|: should be in /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/MacroOptionalFindPackage.cmake
[16:42] <Mr_Grieves|> tsimpson -- Ok, that exists on the file system, but cmake isn't find it
[16:42] <Mr_Grieves|> Is there a path I need to add that to?
[16:45] <renate> yo
[16:45] <tsimpson> Mr_Grieves|: set(CMAKE_MODULE_PATH "/usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules")
[16:46] <administrator_> hi
[16:46] <administrator_> how can you choose your window managing system?
[16:48] <eagles0513875> thebe: did it work for ya
[16:50] <Mr_Grieves|> tsimpson -- Ah, that did it. Thanks :)
[16:54] <fantastron> Hi administrator! What's the case? You want to use kdm instead of gdm?
[17:00] <eagles0513875> thebe: im heading home ill be on to see if that did the trick for ya
[17:02] <cinco> anyone speaks portuguese?
[17:02] <Pici> !pt | cinco
[17:02] <cinco> thankx
[17:03] <zorael> Can anyone tell me how to apply the patch at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20997#c1 ? I have the source and everything ready, but those lines don't look like .patch files usually do, so I don't know how to apply it
[17:21] <kurumin> oi
[17:26] <picketfence> For those of you who remember my dilemma from yesterday, I have an update.
[17:27] <picketfence> The computer with BroadCom Wireless had to be converted back to the darkside in order to work correctly.
[17:27] <picketfence> A moment of silence for a lost laptop......
[17:28] <picketfence> Thank you. Have a nice day.
[17:35] <LOH> hello!
[17:35] <admiral0> hi guys
[17:35] <LOH> hi!
[17:35] <admiral0> what kernel does jaunty have?
[17:36] <admiral0> is it *.28 or *.29?
[17:37] <admiral0> LOH?
[17:37] <LOH>  <admiral0>?
[17:38] <admiral0> LOH if you have kubuntu jaunty could you please `uname -r`
[17:39] <tsimpson> admiral0: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:41] <Mamarok> !Jaunty
[17:41] <homy> Hello, is there a to-do-list widget for plasma?
[17:42] <admiral0> tsimpson. thank you (2.6.28 ) :)
[17:44] <Mamarok> homy: not AFAIK, did you check in kde-look.org?
[17:44] <homy> Mamarok: no, I'll do so now.
[17:55] <tomsdale> is there a way of starting eclipse in kubuntu without the super bold GTK look?
[17:56] <p-f> when restoring from suspend-to-ram, my laptop immediatly goes back to sleep. Why?
[18:13] <taner_> hi
[18:18] <slerder> Hey guys for some reason when I open gparted and select any hard drive they all show as if the entire drive was "unallocated". Any idea on how to solve this, i need to make a new partition in the free space i know i have on a certain drive. thanks
[18:23] <slerder> Hey guys it looks like some partitions are overlapping using the sudo fdisk -lu command, and thats why gparted shows entire drives as unallocated. What can i do to fix this? thanks
[18:34] <reisi> can anyone confirm multihead with fglrx and 64-bit intrepid is *not* working
[18:41] <ubunturos> I have a lag of 3 seconds! What does it really mean? My words posted to this channel will actually reach after 3 seconds?
[18:45] <tsimpson> ubuntulog: means it takes 3 seconds for a message to get from your client to the server and back again
[18:49] <ubunturos> tsimpson: oh, ok. Thanks (you got the nick wrong; doesn't matter, thanks)
[18:50] <tsimpson> ubunturos: I should really start checking *before* hitting enter...
[18:51] <ubunturos> tsimpson: no problem, it just took a while to identify that message was for me :)
[18:51] <Pollywog> will it be possible to upgrade Hardy directly to Jaunty without first upgrading Hardy to Intrepid, or would this be foolhardy?
[18:51] <Pollywog> no pun intended
[18:53] <rosco_y> How do you copy files from Linux to a VirtualBox XP installation?
[18:54] <Pollywog> rosco_y: I think Virtualbox allows you to have directories readable in the host OS
[18:55] <rosco_y> Pollywog: Thanks, so maybe I copy the files to a designated directory, where they can be shared?
[18:55] <tsimpson> Pollywog: you have to upgrade in-order
[18:55] <Noughmad> Pollywog: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[18:55] <tsimpson> so hardy->intrepid->jaunty
[18:55] <Pollywog> rosco_y: yes, you can set it up in the Virtualbox settings
[18:55] <Pollywog> tsimpson: that is what I thought, thanks
[18:56] <rosco_y> Pollywog: Awesome--thanks for the help!
[18:56] <Pollywog> Noughmad: ty
[18:56] <Noughmad> np
[18:56] <admiral0> i'm about to try jaunty beta
[18:56] <admiral0> known issues?
[18:56] <jeiworth> hehe
[18:57] <jeiworth> various
[18:57] <s_> hello anybody there??
[18:57] <jason_froebe> admiral0 - running jaunty beta now... no real issues that I've found
[18:57] <jason_froebe> I had to use the alternate cd method of upgrading though - the distro upgrade method didn't find the beta for me
[18:57] <jeiworth> speaking of which, anyone already has it installed and the same problem in kontact as me? in the calendar the views  for day, week and workweek is not being displayed, month view is ok thoug
[18:58] <admiral0> jason_froebe: i'll try the live. I need some tools for my freerunner that are not available on archlinux :S
[18:58] <leifdk1978> evning
[18:58] <s_> ge..
[18:58] <jeiworth> jason_froebe: can you take a quick look into your kontact calendar
[18:58] <jeiworth> ?
[18:58] <leifdk1978> hmmmm ff3 or konq
[18:59] <admiral0> leifdk1978 ?
[18:59] <s_> hi...sorry to ask....is it real chat..or automated messages..???
[18:59] <leifdk1978> to use firefox 3.x or konquer maybe the webkit version
[19:00] <jason_froebe> jeiworth - sure gimme a sec
[19:00] <admiral0> i prefer konq but that depends on your tastes
[19:00] <jeiworth> jason_froebe: thanks!
[19:00] <leifdk1978> ok
[19:00] <s_> no reply 2me..??   :(
[19:00] <leifdk1978> ok admiral0 and the normal or webkit
[19:01] <admiral0> you can switch when you want
[19:01] <leifdk1978> ok i kind of love the webkit back end
[19:01] <jason_froebe> jeiworth - confirmed the day/week/work week buttons do not produce the panel
[19:01] <jason_froebe> but the month/year do
[19:02] <jeiworth> jason_froebe: ok, so its not just a local problem, thanks
[19:02] <jason_froebe> looks like a minor bug to fix
[19:02] <jason_froebe> is my guess
[19:02] <jeiworth> hope so, lets check if there is already a bug report on it, but i suppose so since its quite obvious
[19:02] <admiral0> leifdk1978 i prefer khtml
[19:17] <astrobear> how do you set the default java to sun-java?
[19:18] <Noughmad> astrobear: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[19:26] <jeiworth> jason_froebe: talked to the guys in #kontact, the problem appears to be unique to kubuntu
[19:26] <jason_froebe> interesting - I wonder if kubuntu/canonical added a patch to it
[19:27] <Laeborg> How can I get the ethernet to work through wlan0 and still be connected to a LAN on eth0 ?
[19:28] <joshjtl> anyone know how to install skype on x86-64 ?
[19:29] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - take a look at routing .. specifically the default route.  if you want the main connection to be on eth0, you would delete the <IP_ADDRESS> default route for your wlan0
[19:29] <Noughmad> joshjtl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[19:29] <Laeborg> wlan0 should be the main connection.
[19:29] <joshjtl> thx Noughmad
[19:29] <Laeborg> but how does i specific that ?
[19:31] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - sudo route del -net <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0  <--- replace <IP_ADDRESS> with whatever your default gateway is on eth0
[19:31] <Laeborg> Then I can use the ethernet on wlan0 but still be a member of the LAN on eth0 ?
[19:31] <ForgeAus> argh it looks like Chrome for linux will be GTK  :(
[19:32] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - correct.
[19:32] <Laeborg> SIOCDELRT: No such process
[19:33] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - do a "route -n | grep <IP_ADDRESS>" and post that?
[19:33] <Laeborg> <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     2      0        0 wlan0
[19:33] <Laeborg> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
[19:34] <Laeborg> but the cable isn't plugged in eth0 yet, because then the net doesn't work
[19:34] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - ah .. looks like you don't have a default route going on eth0
[19:34] <puddle> Hi i have tryed to install php4 several times. Through terminal and normally. I have tryed to look for the package on my machine and i cant find it
[19:34] <puddle> Can someone provide me with answers i would be most grateful :)
[19:34] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - and you're not able to see anything on the eth0?
[19:37] <Laeborg> 2 sec
[19:37] <Laeborg> http://pastebin.com/m7dd6c572
[19:37] <Laeborg> when I plug in the cable
[19:38] <reisi> i'm out of choices over here.. has anyone gotten multiple displays to work in jaunty and ati hardware?
[19:39] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - no prob:  sudo route del -net <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0 ; sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlan0  <-- should work
[19:40] <puddle> Hi i have tryed to install php4 several times. Through terminal and normally. I have tryed to look for the package on my machine and i cant find it
[19:40] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - what is happening when you plug in the ethernet cable is that your default route is being replaced with the ethernet route
[19:40] <Laeborg> now its working.
[19:40] <Laeborg> thanks man :D
[19:40] <jason_froebe> puddle - which version of kubuntu?
[19:40] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - woohoo!
[19:40] <puddle> Latest jason_froebe
[19:40] <Laeborg> you saved my day. Sitting at a LAN party with 3 friends :P
[19:40] <jason_froebe> puddle - Latest as in 8.10 or 9.04 beta
[19:41] <puddle> 8.10
[19:41] <jason_froebe> Laeborg - go frag them ;-)
[19:41] <jason_froebe> puddle - php4 is not in the intrepid (8.10) release
[19:41] <puddle> ah i see
[19:41] <jason_froebe> at least not that I could find
[19:41] <puddle> So jason_froebe i need the correct php version for my os?
[19:42] <puddle> I see i see
[19:42] <DocTomoe> puddle: you might want to get rid of php4 alltogether. It is pretty dead
[19:43] <puddle> Well i am new to linux. But i wanted to learn php to avoid wasting time on irc
[19:43] <puddle> DocTomoe can you recomend me something then i'm not sure?
[19:43] <puddle> What about php5?
[19:43] <jason_froebe> puddle - php5 is the supported release and can be installed with aptitude install php5
[19:43] <DocTomoe> php5 is the successor, and it's pretty much the standard since two years ago...
[19:44] <DocTomoe> puddle: do you have any prior programming expertise?
[19:44] <puddle> ah okay cheers jason_froebe
[19:44] <puddle> And DocTomoe
[19:44] <puddle> No DocTomoe
[19:44] <puddle> Want to learn
[19:44] <jason_froebe> puddle - you can see all the different add ons for php5 by doing aptitude search php5
[19:44] <puddle> ah okay cheers
[19:44] <puddle> I'll have to do sudo command
[19:45] <DocTomoe> puddle: you might seriously reconsider PHP then. You might want to start with something more structured like C++ or Perl - even Java.
[19:45] <puddle> Because i'm not on as root
[19:45] <puddle> wait
[19:45] <puddle> i thought perl was harder?
[19:45] <puddle> i thought php was easy?
[19:45] <ForgeAus> Python is easy :)
[19:45] <jason_froebe> puddle - depends on what you want to do really
[19:46] <ForgeAus> Haskell is difficult, or at least for me
[19:46] <puddle> i dont really know anything about programming
[19:46] <DocTomoe> puddle: it is. this is the point. PHP is too allowing, giving first-timers the impression that anything that works is actually a good idea. I've waded in blood of web scripts that were written by autodidacts that started with PHP.
[19:46] <puddle> Need to start somewhere
[19:46] <jason_froebe> puddle - for web stuff, php or java would be fine
[19:46] <puddle> ok i see
[19:46] <DocTomoe> puddle: If you seriously want to do some Coding, You should first learn a language that forces you to do some stuff the way it was tought.
[19:46] <vandenoever> wow kdevelop 4 in 9.04
[19:46] <ForgeAus> yup
[19:47] <puddle> DocTomoe would that be perl?
[19:47] <jason_froebe> if you wanted to learn perl, http://www.perlmonks.org will help ya along
[19:47] <DocTomoe> python is fine as a starter language, I concur...
[19:47] <puddle> cheers japonski_
[19:47] <puddle> jason froebe
[19:47] <DocTomoe> puddle: perl, python, ruby, java, c++, anything is fine. Just don't start with php.
[19:47] <puddle> ok advise taken
[19:47] <puddle> Java seems easy
[19:48] <puddle> I'll learn perl
[19:48] <puddle> :P
[19:48]  * DocTomoe drings a pepsi for another soul saved.
[19:48] <puddle> Cheers guys
[19:48] <jason_froebe> they're all easy in their own way.  when you get into the nitty gritty is when each of them become a bit tricky
[19:50] <vandenoever> anyone using an ati card with jaunty? it's freezing up for me
[19:50] <vandenoever> x1650 is the one i have
[19:54] <DocTomoe> is there any native KDE4 video player?
[19:54] <DocTomoe> I'd use vlc, but sound stopped working in jaunty (I know, niot a problem to be discussed here), and kaffeine seems to be stuck to KDE2
[19:54] <DocTomoe> %s/KDE2/KDE3/g
[19:54] <vandenoever> DocTomoe: there is dragonplayer
[19:55] <astrobear> ty so much Noughmad
[19:55] <vandenoever> DocTomoe: it is called 'dragon'
[19:55] <Noughmad> glad to help
[19:55] <xjjk> hello, I'm using the Kubuntu 9.04 LiveCD... whats' the l/p on it?
[19:55] <carlabolivar> hola
[19:55] <vandenoever> DocTomoe: and i just crashed it by running it over ssh ...
[19:56] <xjjk> I'm at a kdm screen and it's asking for a login..
[19:56] <carlabolivar> alguien q hable español
[19:57] <DocTomoe> carlabolivar: you might want to check out #kubuntu-es
[19:58] <DocTomoe> xjjk: this is strange. You are sure you use the live CD?
[19:58] <xjjk> DocTomoe: I think so...
[19:59] <DocTomoe> xjjk: try user/user
[19:59] <xjjk> DocTomoe: I downloaded a CD image of the beta and put it onto a USB disk via unetbootin
[19:59] <joshjtl> anyone know of a free way to send and receive sms online?
[20:00] <DocTomoe> dragonplayer works fine, thanks, guys 'n gals :)
[20:05] <Alex8564> 25
[20:18] <vandenoever> wow, eclipse 3.2 in 9.04, that is ancient
[20:22] <siachris> I am no longer "away"
[20:22] <siachris> I guess
[20:25] <knubbe> vandenoever: i think is ooffice 2.x as well.
[20:26] <vandenoever> knubbe: it says Version: 1:3.0.1-9ubuntu1 for openoffice
[20:26] <vandenoever> guess that means 3
[20:28] <vandenoever> knubbe: yes, openoffice is 3.0 in jaunty
[20:29] <knubbe> oh, nice
[20:30] <ghostcube___> hi
[20:30] <ghostcube___> i have following problem from mac to samba on linux and back only 1,1 mb for copying anyone an idea what could be the problem
[20:35] <alexandru> saltari
[21:02] <joshjtl> are there any better widgets for panel for amarok? whats playing now is ok but i'd like a little fuller
[21:02] <fosco_> joshjtl: take a look on kde-look.org
[21:05] <carlos_> como faço para atualizar o amsn?/
[21:06] <fosco_> !br
[21:11] <ravimaddula> how to configure bluetooth PAN
[21:12] <Dirus> hey there is a bug that has a workaround suggested upstream, and the bug won't be fixed by the release of jaunty
[21:12] <Dirus> I made a comment about the bandaid fix on the bug report, but I'm not sure it's going to be seen by the right eyes
[21:15] <Dirus> I was going to post another comment to mention the fix again, but I thought maybe there'd be someone in here I could tell that would do more good
[21:16] <jessie_> Dirus: what app?
[21:16] <Dirus> kde
[21:17] <jessie_> Dirus: What bug? lol
[21:17] <Dirus> 268434
[21:18] <Dirus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/268434
[21:20] <mkargar> hello!how to install koffice2-kde4 candidate 1 in kubuntu 8.10 from repo
[21:20] <mkargar> hello!how to install koffice2-kde4 candidate 1 in kubuntu 8.10 from repo?
[21:21] <joshjtl> does anyone use raptor menu?
[21:25] <joshjtl> http://raptor-menu.org/
[21:26] <m4v> mkargar: koffice2 rc1 is only available in 9.04, requires qt4.5
[21:27] <SandGorgon> joshjtl: looks cool...
[21:31] <mkargar> m4v:hmm!
[21:33] <jessie_> To be honest, I find the 9.04 version soooooooo much more stable than 8.10
[21:34] <jessie_> I upgraded clear back at Alpha 2 and it was more stable for me even then
[22:12] <joshjtl> whats kde 4 installation dir ?
[22:13] <mariusz> chuj w dupe
[22:27] <TheGentleman> Hello. can anyone have a look at this connection problem ?  http://pastebin.com/m31bd1995
[22:29] <TheGentleman> the output comes from wicd, started from konsole to see what happens.  But I don't think it is a wicd problem. The same wicd works now connected to a wire
[22:34] <StormWinged> hello guys
[22:35] <picketfence> Would anyone else be amused to know that a computer which had Kubuntu on it refused to accept a WindowsXP installation?
[22:35] <StormWinged> i`m looking for "linux-kernel-devel", it`s required to install vmware workstation 6.5.1.
[22:35] <TheGentleman> lol
[22:35] <StormWinged> but aptitude dont found it
[22:35] <StormWinged> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-kernel-devel"
[22:36] <StormWinged> any help?
[22:36] <TheGentleman> i'm unsure a devel kernel is in normal repositories
[22:37] <StormWinged> well... when i`m googling it... on ubuntu forum it`s optional...
[22:38] <Noughmad> StormWinged: AFAIK linux-headers-generic is the devel package
[22:41] <TheGentleman> anyway, kubuntu is making big leaps...down!  My network card works fine with 8.04, is seen but doesn't work with 8.10 and is not even seen by 9.04 beta
[22:42] <TheGentleman> those fools spend their time on eyecandies instead that on having a reliable product....
[22:47] <BluesKaj> I installed konvi-kde4 with svn , but it installed in a diff dir than KDEDIR ..I was told by the kde devs to ask advice on this problem here since kubuntu is my distro . I suspect the original; kde3.5 version of konversation should have been uninstalled first , but rather than start over is there a way to find the right dir for konvi-kde4 ?
[22:52] <StormWinged> Noughmad: okay... then it will find the right linux headers for my kernel?
[22:52] <StormWinged> or i have to select it?
[22:53] <Noughmad> it's a metapackage that depends on the latest kernel's (probably the one you're using) headers
[22:53] <StormWinged> thanks
[22:53] <Noughmad> but I don't know how it works with VMWare as I've never tried that
[22:53] <StormWinged> well... after i ask apt
[22:53] <StormWinged> it seems that is updated
[22:53] <StormWinged> :P
[22:55] <StormWinged> is faster oO
[22:55] <Noughmad> ?
[22:56] <StormWinged> i have to install it... cus i`m depending photoshop CS 2
[22:56] <StormWinged> installing vmware is faster :D
[23:10] <mattparry> Hi!  dist-upgrading, crashed 1/2 way through, now KDM wont start KDE, any idears?
[23:18] <davidjheinrich> good evening
[23:18] <davidjheinrich>  can anyone help me with installing radeonhd head? I'm having an error when trying to get the drm kernel modules using git checkout -b r6xx-r7xx-support origin/r6xx-r7xx-support
[23:20] <henry_BR> When I upgrade to kubuntu 9.04 from 8.10, may I lose my docs from Desktop or Documents or any personal fold ? Do I have to make a backup of my personal files?
[23:21] <Noughmad> henry_BR: it is possible (if something goes very wrong) but very inlikely
[23:21] <cosita> hola
[23:21] <Noughmad> unlikely*
[23:22] <henry_BR> Noughmad: thank you
[23:23] <Noughmad> np
[23:24] <Dirus> it's always good to have a backup of important files
[23:28] <davidjheinrich> anyone have any idea on my issue?
[23:31] <calwig> how can i set the proxy settings in kubuntu? i cannot seem to find the similar network proxy settings as in ubuntu
[23:32] <jeiworth> calwig: should be in system settings -> network
[23:32] <BluesKaj> davidjheinrich, ??
[23:33] <calwig> jeiworth: do you have the command to start it?
[23:34] <jeiworth> calwig: uhm depends, what version are you on? i think they changed that in jaunty...
[23:37] <TheGentleman> can anyone expert in networking have a look at this ?  http://pastebin.com/m31bd1995   wicd on kubuntu 8.04
[23:37] <KDesk> hi
[23:37] <Laeborg> I have WinXP running through VirtualBox, but how does I copy data from /home/laeborg to the VirtualBox harddrive ?
[23:38] <KDesk> Konversation for KDE4 is much better than Quassel! :)  You can get it for Jaunty from this PPA  https://launchpad.net/~tonio/+archive/ppa
[23:38] <Laeborg> !virtualbox
[23:38] <calwig> hardy
[23:40] <calwig> jeiworth: hardy
[23:40] <tsimpson> KDesk: it's still pre-alpha, try not to advertise it too much
[23:40] <jeiworth> calwig: hmm kk
[23:41] <jeiworth> try systemsettings
[23:42] <KDesk> tsimpson: Oh sorry, I only knew that there was no official version, it is stable for me, as the KDE3 version.
[23:44] <calwig> not available, strange to not see proxy settings


[09:45] <RikMills> plasma 5.25 release day :D
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.25.0/
[12:39] <mamarley> \o/
 https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1536689676446212096
[12:41] <mamarley> The thing I'm most excited about in this release is how well Wayland works now.
[12:41] <mamarley> That's been a long time coming.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> mamarley, using wayland on kde/plasma ?
[12:47] <mamarley> I am!  I have been since the 5.25 beta was released.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> mamarley, which release?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> testing 22.10 Kinetic here
[12:59] <RikMills> 5.25 for jammy is in backports-landing
[12:59] <RikMills> currently
[13:05] <BluesKaj> RikMills, is plasmashell 5.24.90 considered 5.25 beta?
[13:10] <RikMills> yes
[13:11] <BluesKaj> oj thanks
[13:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:12] <BluesKaj> thinking about switching to wayland, but I'm somewaht nervous about it :-)
[13:12] <mamarley> You can switch back easily if it doesn't work out.
[13:13]  * mamarley flip-flopped a number of times in the past.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> mamarley, are you using acivities and virtual DEs ?
[13:15] <mamarley> I don't use activities and I don't know that a virtual DE is.
[13:15] <mamarley> s/that/what
[13:15] <arraybolt3[m]> mamarley: Virtual desktops. I tried them a bit, they're sorta like having multiple monitors but all on one monitor.
[13:16] <mamarley> Oh, that.  No, I don't use those either.
[13:16] <arraybolt3[m]> (This was back in 14.04 though - I don't know about Wayland and whatnot, this is just what I remember a virtual desktop being.)
[13:21] <BluesKaj> gotta reboot, just got 80 upgrades