[10:05] <randabis> you probably can't install it because the package is being fixed
[10:05] <randabis> there is a problem in openoffice.org2-debian-files that breaks the installation
[10:05] <spacey`ki> well or amd64 port is lagging behind again
[10:06] <spacey`ki> ah ok
[10:06] <randabis> ah that could be it as well
[10:06] <spacey`ki> well i can wait another day:)
[10:06] <spacey`ki> or two or three:)
[10:06] <spacey`ki> i hope oo.o2 is much better dan oo.o1 in on amd64
[10:06] <spacey`ki> oo.o1 is total crap, no AA etc.
[10:07] <haggai> randabis: I didn't spot it because it works if -debian-files from oo1 is installed
[10:07] <spacey`ki> probably because oo.o is one of the few apps that still only works in 32bit
[10:07] <randabis> haggai ah! that would make a difference hehe
[10:08] <randabis> I don't have any of oo.g 1 installed
[10:08] <randabis> oo1 even
[10:09] <haggai> randabis: I know :)  That's why you saw the problem and I didn't
[10:10] <randabis> glad I was of assistance :)
[10:10] <haggai> randabis: I just uploaded a fixed package
[10:10] <randabis> great :)
[10:10] <randabis> I'll be sure to test it in a minute, I know it takes a few minutes for the packages.gz to update
[10:21] <wezzer-> hello
[10:31] <SePpiK> hello, I have any problems with my soundchip. Where can I configure my modules?
[10:34] <agwibowo> hello
[10:35] <bebek> i have problem with my ati video card.....
[10:35] <bebek> the DRI doesn't work...
[10:36] <bebek> it's a Radeon X300 card...
[10:36] <bebek> what should i do?
[10:36] <i386> bebek, ok
[10:36] <SePpiK> Is anybody here, who knows to configure the module.
[10:36] <i386> first you get a tub of silly putty
[10:36] <i386> and cover the card in it
[10:36] <bebek> ?????????
[10:36] <i386> then submerge in water for 1 to 2 hours
[10:36] <i386> then plug it in
[10:36] <bebek> that's very clever
[10:37] <randabis> rinse and repeat
[10:37] <i386> OR YOU COULD RTFM
[10:37] <bebek> i did
[10:37] <bebek> the driver from ubuntu repository doesn't work with X300
[10:37] <randabis> what manual?
[10:37] <bebek> so i downloaded the ATI driver, and run dpkg -i on it..
[10:38] <bebek> now if i used "fglrx" as the driver, X will load (the one from ubuntu repository won't allow me to load X)
[10:38] <bebek> but, the FPS is still too low..
[10:38] <randabis> what is the fps?
[10:38] <bebek> looking at the /var/log/XFree86.0.log  shows that the Acceleration is enabled, but Direct rendering is disabled.. now I don't know what to do
[10:38] <bebek> frame per second
[10:39] <randabis> I know what fps is
[10:39] <randabis> I said THE
[10:39] <bebek> oh sorry
[10:39] <randabis> np
[10:39] <bebek> around 832
[10:39] <bebek> far too low
[10:39] <bebek> the 3d screen saver is still jerky
[10:39] <randabis> ok
[10:40] <randabis> post your xfree86 config at http://www.pastebin.com
[10:40] <bebek> ok... wait on a min
[10:41] <randabis> where did you get the driver btw?
[10:41] <bebek> www.ati.com
[10:41] <randabis> they provide rpms...did you use alien on them or something?
[10:41] <bebek> yes
[10:41] <randabis> ah okay
[10:41] <bebek> i did alien to convert to deb
[10:41] <bebek> than did dpkg -i --force-all <blabla.deb>
[10:42] <randabis> hopefully that's okay...
[10:42] <bebek> so far it's ok...
[10:42] <bebek> :P
[10:42] <randabis> otherwise you just broke a bunch of stuff with -force-all...we'll assume that that's not the problem though
[10:43] <randabis> I have a feeling it's your x config
[10:43] <bebek> ok... it's there now
[10:44] <larsg> hi. I have a little problem.  I've tried Avidemux and cut off the last min, but it mess up the audio/video sync. Any propolsals?
[10:45] <bebek> randabis: have you found it?
[10:45] <knghtbrd> ahh Nautilus, the most stable file manager in the world
[10:47] <randabis> bebek I don't see anything wrong with your config
[10:47] <bebek> hmmm
[10:47] <randabis> I have an idea though
[10:48] <randabis> do you still have the driver from the ubuntu repository installed? if so, completely remove it
[10:48] <bebek> i did
[10:48] <bebek> i did      dpkg -r fglrx-driver
[10:48] <bebek> otherwise i can't install the one from ATI
[10:48] <randabis> okay...
[10:49] <bebek> the force flag was because there was a conflict with libGL something somethign from package xlibMesa (if i'm not mistaken)
[10:49] <randabis> I'm afraid this is beyond my expertise
[10:49] <bebek> ok...
[10:50] <bebek> thx anyway....
[10:50] <randabis> I think the ati's new drivers are written for X.org, so that could be related to your problem. I don't run ati hardware so I can't verify
[10:50] <bebek> looking at the var log for Xfree, it says that the kernel module does not match with the driver..
[10:51] <randabis> ah
[10:51] <randabis> that's because of restricted modules
[10:51] <bebek> "incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work"
[10:51] <bebek> ok... how to solve it???
[10:51] <randabis> I don't know :/
[10:51] <bebek> ok....
[10:51] <bebek> hmmm
[10:52] <randabis> I just know that's why you're getting that error
[10:52] <randabis> should have thought of that earlier
[10:52] <PWM> ehm, is there a way to manage when for instance my harddrive should shut down when my laptop is running on the battery? I've searched for it but I can't find anything :) I use ubuntu warty
[10:52] <randabis> daniels might be able to help you
[10:52] <bebek> what's meant by "restricted modules" and how does that affect in my case?
[10:52] <bebek> hahaha spoke to him last time
[10:52] <bebek> long long time ago
[10:52] <randabis> daniels would be able to explain it to you better than I can
[10:53] <bebek> ok...
[10:53] <bebek> he told me to upgrade to hoary.. he said that it's fixed in hoary...
[10:53] <bebek> but i'm a bit scared to upgrade to hoary yet
[10:53] <bebek> it's not stable yet, isn't it?
[10:54] <elbi> any way to compile the php imap module manually?
[10:56] <ironwolf> bebek: hoary isn't released as stable yet, but many are using it with no difficulty.
[10:57] <bebek> is it hard to upgrade it?
[10:57] <ironwolf> bebek: no
[10:57] <bebek> considering warty is using xfree & hoary is using xorg
[10:57] <bebek> how to upgrade it?
[10:57] <bebek> could you tell me?
[10:57] <bebek> change the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:58] <ironwolf> bebek: change everything in /etc/apt/sources.list from warty to hoary
[10:58] <bebek> ok....
[10:58] <bebek> hmm a bit scared.. but i'll try
[10:58] <ironwolf> bebek: apt-get update ; apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[10:58] <ironwolf> bebek: eat meal, come back, reboot
[10:58] <ironwolf> :)
[10:59] <bebek> when is hoary released?
[10:59] <ironwolf> bebek: May 1st? something around then.
[10:59] <bebek> ic
[10:59] <ironwolf> bebek: I use it.  It works for me.
[11:00] <bebek> what about the warty-security
[11:00] <bebek> change to hoary-security?
[11:00] <ironwolf> yes
[11:00] <ironwolf> change all references of warty to hoary
[11:00] <bebek> ok...
[11:01] <ironwolf> OOo question for anyone.  How do I fix auto-pilot for letter in ubuntu/hoary?
[11:02] <bebek> umm.. no idea... don't even know what "auto-pilot" is
[11:02] <ironwolf> bebek: auto-pilot, in OpenOffice.org is something that can setup letterhead *among other things* for you.
[11:02] <bebek> ohh...
[11:03] <bebek> ic...
[11:03] <bebek> hmm
[11:03] <ironwolf> haggai? you around?
[11:03] <bebek> sorry.. can't help.. no idea..
[11:03] <bebek> leaving now... let ubuntu reborn itself to hoary
[11:03] <bebek> ehhee
[11:03] <bebek> bye bye everyone, thx for the help
[11:03] <ironwolf> bebek: it's ok... I'm hoping haggai is around.
[11:03] <ironwolf> bebek: your welcome.. good luck!
[11:03] <bebek> thx
[11:04] <Sav> Is it possible to move the channellist to the left side cause now its attached to the bottom. using X.Chat
[11:06] <Quarupt> Hi
[11:07] <paranora> hello
[11:07] <haggai> ironwolf: the auto pilots are a big problem because they need OOo to be built with java, but I can't because of the restrictive licensing
[11:07] <Quarupt> I just installed Ubuntu and X never worked from the start?
[11:07] <ironwolf> sav: no clue... good question though.
[11:07] <Quarupt> just black screen?
[11:07] <Quarupt> had to reboot to get a console
[11:08] <Sav> Quarupt, i had the same problem. what computer?
[11:08] <ironwolf> haggai: thanks for proving I'm not crazy. :)  Is there a way to install it with Java?  In universe or compile it manually?
[11:08] <Quarupt> how do i reconfigure my x server?
[11:08] <haggai> ironwolf: you could try installing the pkg we built for Debian, I haven't tested it on ubuntu: http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/1.1.3/openoffice.org-java_1.1.3-1_i386.deb
[11:08] <Quarupt> hrm..
[11:08] <ironwolf> Quarupt: dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server
[11:08] <Quarupt> okay
[11:09] <Quarupt> is that what you did to fix prob ironwolf?
[11:09] <haggai> ironwolf: you can compile with Java support by setting DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=/path/to/your/jdk when building the package
[11:09] <ironwolf> quarupt: which problem? :)
[11:09] <marceta> hey guys
[11:09] <Quarupt> its a HP motherboard the rest is all stuff i bought
[11:09] <haggai> ironwolf: and you need a sun JDK
[11:09] <Quarupt> the black screen problem
[11:09] <Quarupt> sav did you ever fix the prob?
[11:10] <Sav> Quarupt, check your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and try change your vertiref and horisync
[11:10] <Sav> in the Monitor section
[11:10] <Quarupt> i dont have monitor manual anymore :(
[11:10] <Sav> Quarupt, monitor?
[11:10] <marceta> what are the .list;.jigdo and .template files in the download section
[11:10] <marceta> ?
[11:10] <Sav> TFT?
[11:10] <Quarupt> for the freq's
[11:10] <marceta> is the iso all i need?
[11:11] <ironwolf> haggai: so my choices are building it myself with a sun JDK, or trying the untested debian package?  What would you recommend I try first?
[11:11] <Quarupt> crt
[11:11] <marceta> or do i need these?
[11:11] <paranora> Quarupt: edit the file to choose 30-50 for horizontal and 50-100 for the vert. you will get 1024x768 with that.
[11:11] <Quarupt> man how will i remeber all this
[11:11] <Quarupt> i have only one box
[11:11] <paranora> Quarupt: take out a piece of paper now.
[11:11] <Quarupt> i guess i will try
[11:11] <paranora> Quarupt: and write it down :)
[11:11] <Sav> Quarupt, well i guess its a "sync out of range" problem. Just try lowering your h/vsync
[11:12] <haggai> ironwolf: the debian package, since that is much quicker
[11:12] <paranora> How do you boot directtly to command line in Ubuntu instead of GUI?
[11:12] <Quarupt> if it was a sync prob, wouldnt it kick me back to a console after a while?
[11:12] <marceta> do i just burn a bootable CD, or do i need the other files aswell?
[11:12] <paranora> no. it will keep on trying, Quarupt
[11:12] <Quarupt> oh
[11:12] <paranora> Quarupt: respawn is stupid that way.
[11:12] <Quarupt> howcome startx says its not a valid command?
[11:12] <PWM> I'm trying to find some powermanagement tool in ubuntu/gnome... synaptiv says "powermgmt-base" is installed, but I can't find the program anywhere... how can I do some powermanagement in ubuntu?
[11:13] <Quarupt> i just use init 5 to try my X?
[11:13] <Quarupt> cause startx says its not a command
[11:14] <Quarupt> ?
[11:14] <paranora> How do you boot directtly to command line in Ubuntu instead of GUI?
[11:14] <Quarupt> use option 2 in grub
[11:14] <randabis> haggi, has your package fix been uploaded and put on the server yet?
[11:14] <paranora> oh.
[11:14] <randabis> I'm still getting the errors from openoffice.org2
[11:14] <scizzo> :(
[11:14] <_vb_> hello... does anyone know how do I make ntop work on my ubuntu installation? when I launch it as root, it tries to change its user to 'nobody', but in fact I believe it should try to set itself as 'ntop', a user which has been added to the passwd file, and which owns the ntop dirs. does anyone know how to change the user it tries to run as?
[11:14] <ironwolf> haggai: thanks, I'll try that.
[11:14] <randabis> I did apt-get clean before trying
[11:15] <randabis> so it redownloaded the packages from the server (did apt-get update beforehand)
[11:15] <Quarupt> isnt there a script to walk me through x config?
[11:15] <paranora> Quarupt: dpkg --reconfigure will do that. it will ask you questions.
[11:15] <scizzo> Quarupt: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[11:15] <randabis> Quarupt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:15] <Quarupt> okay cool
[11:16] <randabis> depends on your xserver
[11:16] <Quarupt> wow which one thats 3 different things
[11:16] <paranora> and howto startx?
[11:16] <scizzo> shrug....the batteri in my laptop is not recognized with the new stuff in hoary
[11:16] <scizzo> well..from doing the kernel upgrade and such today
[11:16] <paranora> Quarupt: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:17] <paranora> Quarupt: or  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 depends which you chose to install.
[11:17] <ironwolf> _vb_: chown nobody /var/lib/ntop
[11:17] <paranora> Quarupt: in any case, you'll have to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[11:17] <Quarupt> im so confused
[11:17] <Quarupt> what do i do first?
[11:17] <scizzo> Quarupt: what are you running?
[11:17] <crimsun> Quarupt: what did you install, Warty or Hoary?
[11:17] <Quarupt> warty
[11:17] <scizzo> Quarupt: that is are you using warty or hoary?
[11:17] <randabis> if you edit XF86Config-4, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will no longer work
[11:17] <crimsun> Quarupt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, then
[11:18] <scizzo> Quarupt: xfree86 then
[11:18] <Quarupt> all in one command?
[11:18] <paranora> scizzo: but he says "startx" does'nt work for him.
[11:18] <Quarupt> startx doesnt work for me either just init 5
[11:18] <_vb_> ironwolf: tried that, but i don't have nobody among my users... perhaps ubuntu doesn't use it?
[11:18] <randabis> Quarupt type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" without quotes in a terminal
[11:19] <Quarupt> okay
[11:19] <Quarupt> i will be back in 30 mins hopefully in Xchat
[11:19] <scizzo> Quarupt: is it a standard installation?
[11:19] <Quarupt> yes
[11:19] <randabis> password is your user password
[11:19] <paranora> Quarupt: seeya soon here
[11:19] <_vb_> anyway, in the meantime i've found that you can set the user through command line... ntop -u ntop, was easy. but still i'd like to find a way to change the default (or perhaps it is compiled in?)
[11:19] <scizzo> Quarupt: with gnome?
[11:19] <Quarupt> yea
[11:19] <Quarupt> i think
[11:19] <Quarupt> i just let it install
[11:19] <ironwolf> _vb_: ah.. now I understand
[11:19] <scizzo> Quarupt: then try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:20] <Quarupt> and it asked if it could download stuff
[11:20] <Quarupt> and i said okay
[11:20] <scizzo> Quarupt: when you have done the xfree86 config
[11:20] <Sav> Anyone got vlc for ubuntu? or there is no rel working?
[11:20] <Quarupt> wow one thing at a time
[11:20] <Quarupt> im getting confused again
[11:20] <randabis> there is a vlc for ubuntu in the universe repositories
[11:20] <Sav> ok
[11:20] <Quarupt> Im lost
[11:21] <Quarupt> Netsplit?
[11:21] <scizzo> Quarupt: 1. do the dpkg-reconfigure stuff
[11:21] <paranora> Quarupt: there's nothing to get confused about. you reconfigure the xserver-xfree86, then you restart the login manager, called gdm so you say /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:21] <scizzo> Quarupt: try running the sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart stuff
[11:21] <Quarupt> i dont seend to type sudo, do i im allready root?
[11:21] <Quarupt> need
[11:21] <paranora> no you do not. just type without sudo
[11:22] <Quarupt> okay so first do x config then restart login manager
[11:22] <Quarupt> thats all?
[11:22] <paranora> yes.
[11:22] <Quarupt> so what exactly will i type?
[11:22] <Quarupt> i will write it down
[11:22] <paranora> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[11:22] <paranora> then do the config.
[11:22] <gusto_> hmm
[11:22] <paranora> then /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:24] <Quarupt> none of this is case sensitive is it?
[11:24] <Ferry> hi anyone else having usb troubles with a current hoary install?
[11:24] <ironwolf> haggai: that link to the OOo package for debian isn't valid.
[11:24] <tux_> having perlmagick problems, anyone messed with it before ?
[11:24] <ironwolf> Ferry: hi! no.
[11:24] <Quarupt> Okay i will be back
[11:24] <Quarupt> thx allot for the help guys
[11:24] <ironwolf> Quarupt: Good Luck!
[11:24] <_vb_> thanks anyway
[11:24] <paranora> Quarupt: seeya soon. and get back here.
[11:25] <Ferry> everything stopped working after i upgraded to hoary. My usb mouse, my usb memory stick
[11:26] <ironwolf> Ferry: can you be more specific about errors your seeing?
[11:27] <ergo> hello all
[11:27] <scizzo> cool msg I get from acpi
[11:27] <Ferry> usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[11:27] <Ferry> uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: Unlink after no-IRQ?  Different ACPI or APIC settings may help.
[11:27] <Ferry> usb 1-2: khubd timed out on ep0in
[11:27] <Ferry> think something changed acpi related
[11:27] <ergo> hey I need help with my disk
[11:27] <paranora> how to boot to console instead of GUI? remove all the display managers? like update-rc.d -f gdm remove?
[11:28] <crimsun> paranora: sudo mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/gdm_backup
[11:28] <paranora> crimsun: oh ok :/ that too.
[11:28] <paranora> hehe
[11:29] <scizzo> hmmm..If I find a problem with the acpi packages.....where should I report this?
[11:29] <randabis> bugzilla
[11:29] <ironwolf> scizzo: bugzilla
[11:29] <crimsun> scizzo: kernelspace? the linux-image one
[11:29] <scizzo> bugzilla on ubuntu or to the debian package maintainer?
[11:30] <crimsun> scizzo: ubuntu kernel => ubuntu's bugzilla
[11:30] <ergo> I have installed ubuntu linux on my PC and after the instalation when it tries to run I get: Buffeer I/O error.. what the hell is that??
[11:30] <scizzo> randabis: so ...sherlock...didn't know that.. ;)
[11:30] <ergo> :(
[11:30] <Ferry> scizzo what is your prob with acpi
[11:30] <scizzo> ACPI-1138: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST]  (Node dfb6d440), AE_AML_NO_OPERAND
[11:30] <Ferry> im getting the sam errors
[11:31] <Ferry> all over the place
[11:31] <scizzo> and I know it is from the upgrade from yesterday til today
[11:31] <Ferry> and usb stopped working :)
[11:31] <Ferry> yeah
[11:31] <scizzo> Ferry: downgrade then
[11:31] <Ferry> what package?
[11:33] <scizzo> don't really know fo sure...it could be either acpi or the kernel
[11:33] <scizzo> both of them are upgraded
[11:33] <Quarupt> After i typed dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86  it just did it and gave me a prompt didnt ask anything?
[11:34] <Quarupt> then i restarted the gdm and it went to a black screen?
[11:34] <Quarupt> again?
[11:34] <Quarupt> shouldnt it have asked me questions?
[11:34] <Quarupt> hi zeeble
[11:34] <zeeble> Quarupt: hello.
[11:35] <zeeble> Press Ctrl+Alt+F4
[11:35] <Quarupt> oh man paranoia left
[11:35] <zeeble> goto a console
[11:35] <Quarupt> i tried i cant get a concole remeber i told you
[11:35] <Quarupt> i tried ctr-alt- F1 - F9 and BKspce
[11:35] <zeeble> that will restart gdm all over again.
[11:35] <Quarupt> it doesnt respond
[11:36] <Quarupt> it doesnt respond
[11:36] <Quarupt> lol
[11:36] <zeeble> and put you back to the black screen
[11:36] <Quarupt> it just stays there no activity on the tower LED
[11:36] <Quarupt> i need to reconfig my x
[11:36] <scizzo> Ferry: I can tell you the bug number in a bit
[11:37] <Quarupt> howcome knoppic auto-conf works better on my machine to set up x?
[11:37] <Quarupt> knoppix*
[11:38] <randabis> liveCDs work differently
[11:41] <scizzo> Ferry: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5861
[11:42] <scizzo> lunch time
[11:44] <elbi> any way to compile the php imap module manually?
[11:45] <Ferry> scizzo: i have the same laptop
[11:45] <Ferry> :)
[11:46] <scizzo> ok
[11:47] <scizzo> well not everything works good with the Pheonix bios stuff
[11:47] <ironwolf> where do I change the default application a file with a certain extension opens with?
[11:48] <scizzo> ironwolf: in gnome?
[11:51] <spiral> hi everybody
[11:53] <tuxJr_14> hi
[11:53] <ironwolf> scizzo: yes
[11:56] <scizzo> shrug...everything changes
[11:57] <Adrenal> wtf is with the new version of gaim
[11:58] <Adrenal> 2/3 messages can't be sent
[11:59] <Adrenal> anyone?
[11:59] <ironwolf> scizzo: got it working.. in a round-a-bout way.
[12:03] <tux_> i need libmagick 6 : 5:<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 but only 5:<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1.3 is available
[12:03] <tux_> where could i get the previous ver ?
[12:04] <Stew2> I have a drive formatted with NTFS under Windows XP SP2. Can I plug it into an Ubuntu Hoary computer and will Ubuntu see the files?
[12:04] <Adrenal> u have to mount it
[12:05] <Skid> mkdir /mnt/win && mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaxX /mnt/win
[12:06] <Skid> where xX = for example hda1
[12:06] <Skid> and so on
[12:06] <Adrenal> u can use captive to make write support
[12:06] <Adrenal> hope u have better luck then i did
[12:07] <Adrenal> cos, u know....i had bad luck
[12:08] <Stew2> Skid Is it read only?
[12:08] <Adrenal> yes
[12:08] <Adrenal> yes it is
[12:08] <Adrenal> i recommend converting to ext3 or reiser fs anyway
[12:09] <Adrenal> no defraging
[12:09] <Adrenal> not now, not ever
[12:09] <Skid> yeah, write support isn't stable yet
[12:09] <Skid> unless you want to loose your data? :P
[12:10] <Adrenal> hard skid, harder
[12:10] <Skid> muahahhah !
[12:10] <Adrenal> cat /dev/urandom
[12:10] <Skid> :)
[12:11] <tuxJr_14> skid: all the best for the exam
[12:11] <Adrenal> exam?
[12:11] <Skid> thanks, although to be honest I'm aiming for the resit (bad ethics, i know.. but I've not really revised for it)
[12:11] <zeeble> Skid: :)
[12:11] <Skid> ya, predicate calculus, truth trees, autmoations blaaaaaaaaaah
[12:13] <Adrenal> aww man
[12:13] <Adrenal> found this awesome thing for linux
[12:13] <Adrenal> called 'kde'
[12:13] <Adrenal> so sweet
[12:13] <zeeble> lol
[12:14] <zeeble> try that line in #gnome
[12:14] <Adrenal> so i says to the guy, ITS MY WILLY AND I'LL WASH IT AS FAST AS I WANT
[12:15] <darmou> Does anyone know how to start ubuntu in console mode, when It starts X it's completely stuffed on my ppc machine with Radeon card. :(
[12:15] <tuxJr_14> Adrenal: it's already there. it's more famous than gnome ( err... i hope i'm not on #gnome) :-)
[12:16] <Adrenal> tuxJr_14: i know, tried it, it sucks. I support anyone using it, but i won't, you know, march in their parades or anything
[12:16] <Skid> lol
[12:16] <Skid> personally, I pref gnome
[12:16] <Skid> but there you go
[12:16] <Skid> (more lightweight)
[12:16] <zeeble> io2 > *
[12:16] <zeeble> err, ion2 even
[12:16] <Adrenal> xfce is good
[12:16] <Skid> though, i'm partial to fluxbox > gnome
[12:16] <zeeble> yeah, xfce too
[12:16] <Adrenal> what file manager do u guys use?
[12:16] <Skid> what is xfce ?
[12:16] <zeeble> xfce4
[12:16] <Adrenal> gnomelite
[12:17] <zeeble> i use one called gentoo
[12:17] <Adrenal> but still fully features
[12:17] <Skid> I keep hearing about it..
[12:17] <Adrenal> try it
[12:17] <Adrenal> its very good
[12:17] <Adrenal> but i still prefer gnome
[12:17] <Adrenal> however, for playing games, i run that
[12:17] <Skid> is it a DM ?
[12:17] <Adrenal> cos uses like no resources?
[12:17] <Adrenal> d...m?
[12:17] <zeeble> no. its a WM
[12:17] <zeeble> its either DE or WM
[12:17] <zeeble> XFCE is a WM
[12:18] <jdub> xfce is much closer to a DE
[12:18] <Skid> sorry yeah, I've been up all night ;)
[12:18] <Adrenal> do u guys all use nautilus, or is there something better?
[12:18] <Skid> I do, don't really like it
[12:19] <darmou> Is there a way to boot in console mode?
[12:23] <LaurenceRowe> I am having problems connecting to a slow ssh host with nautilus. connecting to localhost works fine, but connecting to my remote host always results in a "Nautilus can not display sftp://blah, please select another viewer and try again" error. I can commandline sftp into my remote host - though it often takes a little while for the password prompt to appear. any ideas?
[12:24] <jazzka> how can I know which is the correct font resolution for a 1024x768 desktop?
[12:26] <LaurenceRowe> jazzka: it depends on the size of your screen. If you use a small screen at high resolution go for larger dpi fonts
[12:26] <jazzka> LaurenceRowe, I'm using a 17 inches screen
[12:27] <Adrenal> whats the default font in xchat?
[12:27] <Adrenal> cos i upgraded and it all went to hell
[12:27] <zeeble> Monospace
[12:27] <zeeble> try Sans
[12:27] <LaurenceRowe> so from left to right that is about say 13 inches. 1024/13 =78. go for something like that
[12:27] <nakee_> what's the url to see what package a langauge pack has?
[12:27] <Adrenal> cheers
[12:28] <Skid> yeah, i dont like the latest version of xchat
[12:28] <Adrenal> ah
[12:28] <Adrenal> much better
[12:28] <Skid> i much pref'd the oler one & black theme
[12:28] <Adrenal> yeh, wtf did they do?
[12:28] <Adrenal> is there anyway to downgrade through synaptic?
[12:28] <Skid> the colours are crap too
[12:28] <Skid> hmm, not sure
[12:28] <Skid> suppose you could compile from source
[12:28] <Adrenal> aww...source
[12:28] <Adrenal> i don't wanna
[12:29] <Skid> :)
[12:29] <Caleb^> i just installed ubuntu for the first time, but im having problem with the dependencies, it says 'modprobe: can't open dependecies file '/lib/modules/2.4.26/modules.dep'. any idea?
[12:29] <Caleb^> im wondering why is it 2.4 series. but the kernel is 2.6
[12:29] <Skid> ditto
[12:29] <Skid> :)
[12:31] <ups_> i installed hoary, and everything seems to be running fine. my xorg.conf and XFree86-4 files are exactly the same
[12:31] <ups_> is that normal?
[12:32] <sn0wman> ups_, xorg and xfree are both implemenations of the same spec, so it's normal that the config files are the same
[12:33] <ups_> ok
[12:34] <Caleb^> how can i point the modules into 2.6 kernel directory?
[12:34] <ups_> also, i had made a few changes to the XFree86 file (disabled UseFBDev)
[12:34] <ups_> this also appeared in the xorg file
[12:34] <quitte> Caleb^: sure you have a 2.6 kernel running. try uname -r
[12:34] <ups_> basically it seemed to me that the XFree file was copied to xorg one
[12:35] <Caleb^> quitte:  but it says modprobe: can't open dependecies file '/lib/modules/2.4.26/modules.dep'
[12:35] <Skid> i.e. some of the screenshots from the forums, gee.
[12:35] <Skid> niiiiice
[12:35] <ups_> i hope its ok
[12:35] <quitte> Caleb^ but.. you are most likely running 2.4.26. uname -r will tell you
[12:35] <HetIsLarsje> anyone got an idea where Rythmbox dumps its debug log?
[12:36] <Caleb^> quitte: but im having error in mobprobe, how can i fix that? it cant load the ati card driver
[12:36] <HetIsLarsje> I've run it with the debug mode (I hope) but can't find the output...
[12:36] <quitte> Caleb^: to recreate that depndencies error run depmod -a
[12:36] <Spader4321> whats the fastest way to get ubuntu?
[12:36] <quitte> Caleb^: still you *are* running 2.4.26
[12:37] <quitte> Caleb^: s/error/file
[12:37] <Caleb^> quitte: thnx
[12:38] <Caleb^> quitte: do i need to download/install separate driver for radeon? or is it supported in ubuntu?
[12:38] <sean__> zeeble
[12:38] <sean__> i dunno how to pm in this client?
[12:38] <zeeble> sean__: type /msg nickname
[12:38] <zeeble> you just dud
[12:38] <quitte> Spader4321: for me running sid it was as easy as changing my etc/apt/sources.list to use hoary repositories instead and dist-upgrading
[12:38] <zeeble> did
[12:39] <Quarupt> how do i switch to your pm?
[12:39] <quitte> Caleb^ i'm a newbie to ubuntu and have no radeon myself.sorry.
[12:40] <Quarupt> zeeble?
[12:40] <quitte> Caleb^: but xorg supports radeon
[12:40] <zeeble> Quarupt: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:40] <smurfslay> anyone succeeded using ndiswrapper with ubuntu?
[12:41] <Caleb^> quitte: the 4.10 release is not xorg based
[12:41] <zeeble> Quarupt: got it?
[12:41] <quitte> Caleb^: i don'T know. i changed to ubuntu because of xorg.
[12:42] <Quarupt> its going
[12:42] <quitte> Caleb^: cant say anything bad about hoary so far
[12:42] <Quarupt> i cant see if my pm's get to you
[12:42] <zeeble> Quarupt: i get them
[12:42] <MorphDK> hey..
[12:43] <quitte> Caleb^: try apt-cache search radeon
[12:43] <quitte> Caleb^: that'S giving me some useful results
[12:44] <Quarupt> zeeble i dont think i can send pm's to you anymore?
[12:44] <zeeble> why not?
[12:44] <Quarupt> it just doesnt work
[12:44] <zeeble> Quarupt: do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[12:44] <Quarupt> doesnt send em
[12:44] <zeeble> Quarupt: choose nvidia there, and the nv driver
[12:45] <zeeble> Quarupt: when it asks you to select xserver modules, deselect GLcore and dri
[12:45] <zeeble> Quarupt: and select glx
[12:46] <MorphDK> what's the status on KDE and Ubuntu?
[12:46] <MorphDK> Do I have to wait for Kubuntu?
[12:46] <Riddell> MorphDK: KDE 3.3.2 is in universe
[12:47] <MorphDK> Riddell is it working well?
[12:47] <Riddell> MorphDK: you can install KDE now
[12:47] <abelli> ciao a tutti
[12:47] <Riddell> MorphDK: no, the k-menu is broken
[12:47] <MorphDK> I've got some bad experinces last time i tried..
[12:47] <MorphDK> that's what I thought..
[12:47] <Riddell> MorphDK: what were the bad experiences?
[12:47] <abelli> my gnome-volume-manager doesnt automount usb devices. why?
[12:47] <MorphDK> Riddell: The K-menu.. :D
[12:47] <quitte> abelli are you in the plugdev group?
[12:47] <Riddell> we're investigating it
[12:48] <Quarupt> zeeble did ya get the pm's i just sent?
[12:48] <zeeble> Quarupt: i did.
[12:48] <abelli> hope so..
[12:48] <Quarupt> so...?
[12:48] <abelli> quitte: let me see
[12:48] <quitte> abeeli or is it maybe a usb device that has multiple partitions? my usb hdd didn't automount until i made it one big vfat partition
[12:49] <MorphDK> Riddell: Okay.. So do i stick to Ubuntu/Gnome until Kubuntu is released?
[12:49] <abelli> quitte: no only hal is in there..
[12:49] <MorphDK> Riddell: I think KDE is nice, but not without k-menu
[12:50] <quitte> abelli: in where?
[12:50] <abelli> quitte: plug* group.
[12:50] <Caleb^> quitte: hoary?
[12:50] <Quarupt> Zeeble im gunna finish the script now okay?
[12:50] <zeeble> Quarupt: SELECT glx.
[12:50] <quitte> abelli well- then add yourself to plugdev. adduser abelli plugdev
[12:50] <abelli> quitte: thank you
[12:50] <quitte> Caleb^: i'm using hoary. is that the answer to your question?
[12:51] <Quarupt> ...
[12:52] <Caleb^> quitte: yes, so its not the warty?
[12:52] <Quarupt> i wish i could see the ./msg i send out
[12:52] <zeeble> Quarupt: hehe
[12:52] <quitte> Caleb^: i'm not using warty
[12:52] <jesuel> oooo....
[12:52] <jesuel> heh, just got home, almost got a ticket :(
[12:53] <jesuel> hrm, and wrong channel too ;p
[12:53] <Caleb^> quitte: theres no download section for hoary in their site
[12:53] <quitte> Caleb^ edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <quitte> see where it says warty?
[12:54] <quitte> Caleb^: change that to hoary
[12:54] <quitte> Caleb^: apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:54] <TreadingSoftly> Hi folks. Been using Ubuntu for two weeks on my desktop; now I'm planning to dual boot it with Windows XP on my Thinkpad T40. I'm trying to work out the best way to partition the disk. Current plan: resize the NTFS Windows partition so it takes up half the disk, create a 512 MB swap, and leave the rest to Ubuntu. My question is as follows: will i be able to mount the NTFS partition from within Ubuntu? Or do I need to create a FAT partition if I wa
[12:54] <quitte> Caleb^: at least that's how it worked in debian
[12:55] <ups_> TreadingSoftly: u can mount the ntfs partition as read-only in ubuntu
[12:55] <zeeble> TreadingSoftly: yoi'll be able to mount. the only thing is you best do the mount as read-only. read-write for ntfs is flaky.
[12:56] <Quarupt> zeeble your not getting my pm's?
[12:56] <zeeble> Quarupt: i am getting them. you are'nt getting mine
[12:56] <TreadingSoftly> Ah, so i probably want a small FAT partition to share stuff. Is R/O on NTFS good enough for Wine?
[12:56] <zeeble> !
[12:56] <zeeble> TreadingSoftly: yeah.
[12:57] <Quarupt> lets just talk in here zeeble its less confusing for me
[12:57] <TreadingSoftly> ok, thanks ups_ and zeeble :)
[12:57] <Caleb^> quitte: have you notice that all installed has been upgraded?
[12:57] <zeeble> Quarupt: ok. send me your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.
[12:57] <Quarupt> how lol?
[12:57] <quitte> Caleb^ i never used warty
[12:58] <Quarupt> zeeble: wow tab completeion works with names
[12:58] <Quarupt> zeeble: this is so cool
[12:58] <zeeble> Quarupt: you had'nt seen that earlier? o.o
[12:58] <Quarupt> zeeble: naw
[12:59] <Quarupt> zeeble: okay so how do i send you the file?
[12:59] <zeeble> Quarupt: /dcc  send it
[12:59] <Quarupt> zeeble: /dcc name file?
[01:00] <Quarupt> zeeble: ?
[01:00] <zeeble> yeah
[01:01] <Skid> hmph, still can't figure it out.. how does one get completely transparent windows (i.e. terminal windows, that look like the text is just on the desktop?)
[01:01] <Quarupt> zeeble: where exactly is the file?
[01:01] <Quarupt> zeeble: /etc/init.d/?
[01:01] <zeeble> Quarupt: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[01:02] <Quarupt> oh lol
[01:02] <Quarupt> zeeble: working?
[01:02] <zeeble> no
[01:03] <Quarupt> well the syntax was wrong then
[01:03] <Ng> Skid: you get transparent terminals by right clicking on them choosing Edit Current Profile and going go the Effects tab. Or did you mean to make any arbitrary window properly translucent?
[01:03] <Quarupt> zeeble: are you sure its /dcc USER /FILE/
[01:03] <zeeble> Quarupt: /dcc send user path
[01:04] <zeeble> Quarupt: not transferring :/
[01:05] <Quarupt> zeeble: that work?
[01:05] <Quarupt> why not?
[01:05] <zeeble> Quarupt: yeah
[01:05] <Quarupt> zeeble: working now?
[01:05] <zeeble> Quarupt: no. maybe your DCC send is blocked.
[01:05] <Quarupt> zeeble:  how to fix?
[01:06] <Quarupt> zeeble: how do i clear all my dcc?
[01:07] <Quarupt> zeeble: you awake bud?
[01:07] <TreadingSoftly> New question. I'm trying to resize my NTFS with qtparted in Knoppix without destroying the IBM Thinkpad predesktop area partition (which is in 2.91 GB at the end of the disk). According to this guy (http://ursa.as.arizona.edu/~rad/ibmt40.html), I need to 'Put the predesktop "free space" into an extended partition (to keep it separate while resizing).' Any idea what this means?
[01:08] <Quarupt> NO!!!!!
[01:08] <Quarupt> im screwed now
[01:09] <Quarupt> zeeble come back lol
[01:10] <gman4e> does "Maxtor 80 GB USB2.0 One Touch", work on ubuntu??
[01:10] <Quarupt> well im so close to getting my x working with my nvidia card
[01:10] <Quarupt> and then zeeble leaves
[01:10] <Quarupt> man
[01:10] <gman4e> and if so, which filesystem, should i format it with?
[01:12] <quitte> maybe it even works making debs from it now :))
[01:12] <quitte> had a really hard time making most patches apply to cvs
[01:12] <Sav> how do i get .mp3 files default played by xmms ?
[01:13] <no0tic> Sav: in nautilus right-click on a mp3 file --> "Poperties" --> Open with
[01:15] <Quarupt> man where did zeeble go
[01:15] <Quarupt> i really need him back
[01:15] <Sav> ok thnx, now. How do i get a "detailed look on my home folder and prevent it from opening a new window for each folder?
[01:15] <Quarupt> i need to finish getting nvida working with my x
[01:15] <no0tic> Sav: look in preferences...
[01:15] <Skid> Ng: i mean the windows border
[01:16] <Quarupt> no0tic: maybe you can help me
[01:16] <Skid> sorry was playing with xfce
[01:16] <quitte> Quarupt: just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and configure it. what's so hard about that?
[01:16] <Quarupt> i did
[01:16] <Skid> ng1
[01:16] <Quarupt> it doesnt work i got the driver and installed it
[01:16] <quitte> Quarupt: i mean you never asked for dri working - so it should be really easy
[01:16] <Skid> Ng: http://de.lunar-linux.org/xfce4/screenshots/2005-01-09-223724_1600x1200_scrot_thumbnail.png <-- like that screenshot there.. I'd like to make my terminals like it
[01:16] <Quarupt> quitte: it should but its not easy lol
[01:17] <Quarupt> quitte: we were going to edit my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[01:17] <quitte> Quarupt you have to select nv driver - not nvidia. then it *is* easy
[01:17] <Quarupt> quitte: but then he left and i cant edit it
[01:17] <darmou> Is there any way of booting into console mode with ubuntu my video is stuffed, would booting it in single usermode help?
[01:17] <Quarupt> okay i will try this
[01:18] <quitte> Quarupt: zeeble told you to use nv,too
[01:18] <Quarupt> quitte: nope didnt work
[01:18] <gman4e> does "Maxtor 80 GB USB2.0 One Touch", work on ubuntu??
[01:18] <Quarupt> quitte: i used nv driver this time
[01:19] <Quarupt> quitte: still says fail
[01:19] <Sav> no0tic, well the settings only apply for only that folder.. right?
[01:19] <quitte> Quarupt what do you mean by doesn'T work?
[01:19] <Quarupt> quitte: after i reconfigured with nv driver i restarted gdm and it failed
[01:19] <Quarupt> quitte: how can i use both drivers?
[01:20] <quitte> you can'T
[01:20] <quitte> Quarupt what kind of dumb irc client are you using?
[01:20] <quitte> Quarupt: i msged you.
[01:20] <Quarupt> quitte: irsii or something
[01:21] <quitte> Quarupt: and you dont see im msging you?
[01:21] <Quarupt> quitte: i do see
[01:21] <Quarupt> quitte: how do you think i saw you told me to use nv lol
[01:21] <quitte> Quarupt. ok you didn't see. i told you in this chan
[01:22] <quitte> Quarupt install irssi-text.
[01:22] <Quarupt> quitte: and i tried it and it failed lol
[01:22] <Quarupt> quitte: it is installed
[01:22] <Quarupt> quitte: i got your messages
[01:22] <quitte> Quarupt: you can change windows with alt-n. like alt-1
[01:22] <quitte> why don'T you reply me with msg then?
[01:24] <kbrooks> take this out of here, quitte and Quarupt.
[01:27] <jono> hi al
[01:27] <jono> all
[01:35] <no0tic> where can I find packages change logs?
[01:37] <PLUCKy_8954> hello
[01:37] <[m0rph] > hi
[01:38] <Sav> how prevent new window opening when i access a folder? want it to open in the active window
[01:39] <Skid> Sav: in the prefs, say open in browser window
[01:39] <lordan> no0tic, of installed packages? /usr/share/doc/<package>/[cC] hange[lL] og.gz usually
[01:39] <Skid> it'll be more like "explorer" then
[01:39] <Sav> Skid, cant find where.
[01:39] <Skid> edit -> pres
[01:39] <Skid> prefs
[01:39] <no0tic> lordan: of new packages (not already installed)
[01:40] <Sav> ahh now i see
[01:40] <Skid> then behavoir tab
[01:40] <Skid> :)
[01:40] <Sav> thnx
[01:40] <Skid> np
[01:42] <lordan> no0tic, good question
[01:43] <Sav> Anyone know how to install Wlan, got "Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dualband Wlan MINI-PCI card"
[01:43] <no0tic> brb
[01:44] <da_bon_bon> anyone here uses the hoary array3 iso ?
[01:44] <no0tic> re
[01:45] <da_bon_bon> re ?
[01:46] <PLUCKy_8954> re = wb
[01:47] <da_bon_bon> hey, i realized that my isp keeps track of every site i visit. BASTARDS! can i use any circumvent ?
[01:48] <TW> hi all
[01:48] <Sav> How do i know what module my wlan sould use? i find the wlan in device manager
[01:48] <Guardiann> hi
[01:49] <TW> i have a problem with x server under a via pc
[01:49] <TW> it doesn't start
[01:49] <no0tic> Sav: google is your friend ;)
[01:49] <no0tic> TW: warty or hoary?
[01:49] <TW> warty
[01:51] <TW> i try with live cd and it works
[01:55] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon, sure.
[01:56] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon, how many hours are you usually online?
[01:56] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon, because i have a (instant) idea.
[01:56] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: no idea. maybe 6 per day ?
[01:57] <da_bon_bon> whats the idea ?
[01:57] <Caleb^> quitte: the uname -r displays 2.4.26 version
[01:57] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon, proxy.
[01:57] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: is there any free one ?
[01:57] <quitte> Caleb^: i told you, didn't i?
[01:58] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon, i'll install it on my comp for you and you can use my comp to access sites
[01:58] <quitte> Caleb^: that's because your kernel *is* 2.4.26
[01:58] <da_bon_bon> kbrooks: u r computer is always on ?
[01:58] <kbrooks> da_bon_bon, yeah.
[01:58] <kbrooks> don't worry -- i won't be monitoring sites that you access
[01:59] <kbrooks> i understand privay
[02:01] <Caleb^> quitte: but my diretory is /lib/modules/2.6.8... blah blah
[02:02] <quitte> Caleb^ you are not running that kernel. period. no discussion.
[02:02] <quitte> Caleb^: reboot and see if you can boot a 2.6 kernel
[02:02] <Caleb^> quitte: so how can i run that kernel
[02:02] <quitte> Caleb^: reboot.
[02:03] <Caleb^> quitte: i install ubuntu as custom
[02:03] <quitte> Caleb^: your bootloader should have been configured to show you all installed kernels i guess
[02:03] <da_bon_bon> anyone here uses the hoary array3 iso ?
[02:04] <Caleb^> brb
[02:06] <Guardiann> da_bon_bon doesnt appear so
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> da_bon_bon: is there a problem?
[02:06] <da_bon_bon> Guardiann: right!
[02:07] <da_bon_bon> HrdwrBoB: nah. wanted to ask howz it? coz i can never hope to download 'em.
[02:09] <Sav> Anyone wanna helt me with WLAN, driver is installed, module is loaded but i get no interface on the wlan, s i cant add it to the network-list
[02:11] <mannemarak> Hi all,
[02:12] <mannemarak> hi
[02:12] <mannemarak> can anyone help with setting the mail up to work with MS exchange?
[02:18] <questioner> ive got a question, i want to set a crontab wich executes a command every 10 minutes, is the following syntax correct? */10 * * * * root rm -r /home/user/.Trash/*
[02:22] <synan> hi all
[02:22] <synan> have some probs again.. =)
[02:22] <synan> trying to run xfce installer gave me an error of mising glib.. any ideas?
[02:22] <bebek> hello
[02:22] <bebek> is the procedure for installing fglrx driver in hoary the same as in warty? (in the wikipage)
[02:23] <synan> trey3, are u here? =)
[02:23] <Guardiann> synan have you installedd glib?
[02:23] <Ferry> scizzo: do you have speedstep issues on your tecra?
[02:24] <synan> Guardiann, isnt it suppoesed to be installed already?
[02:24] <Ferry> scizzo: or usb?
[02:24] <bebek> my hoary shows a message that the package could not be authenticated when i do apt-get install
[02:24] <bebek> what could be the problem?
[02:24] <Guardiann> try searching and installing from synaptic
[02:25] <siretart_> hi there
[02:26] <quitte> can someone running warty please tell Quarupt which 2.6.8 kernel and headers to install for a p3?
[02:26] <synan> Guardiann, synaptic said it is installed, but i searched for GModule but with no results..
[02:27] <Guardiann> synan thats strange when i do a seach for it it doesnt show up
[02:27] <siretart> is there a info browser in ubunut/main?
[02:27] <synan> Guardiann, what doesnt show up?
[02:27] <synan> glib?
[02:28] <Guardiann> yep
[02:30] <Sav> Anyone wanna helt me with WLAN, driver is installed, module is loaded but i get no interface on the wlan, s i cant add it to the network-list
[02:31] <quaru> wow xchat
[02:31] <quaru> yeaa
[02:31] <quaru> are you here man?
[02:31] <jcoxon77> hi everyone
[02:32] <bebek> why does hoary does not detect package dependency automatically upon calling "apt-get install <something" ???
[02:32] <bebek> it always say that something is not installed....
[02:33] <erGoline> Hi I have some problems setting X for a Sis630 with a LCD Panel (All-in-one PC.. notebook hardware) while with the external VGA it's all ok. Any hint?
[02:34] <BockBilbo> hello
[02:37] <Fish2005> hi
[02:38] <spiral> oups... evolution breaks in hoary update ? :-/
[02:38] <siretart> Sav: which driver? did you check the syslog for error messages?
[02:39] <siretart> spiral: evolution <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 seems to work for me [tm]
[02:39] <MasTinoX> hello
[02:39] <spiral> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:39] <spiral>   evolution libcamel1.2-1
[02:39] <spiral> siretart: dist-upgrade now and you'll see what I pasted maybe
[02:40] <synan> does anyone know why my xfce installer complains of missing glib and gmodule?
[02:41] <spiral> any idea about this problem with evolution ?
[02:42] <siretart> spiral: sorry, I cannot reproduce your problem
[02:42] <bretzel> hi there -- Something is strange : images.iso files aren't recognized ? I was used in previous ubuntu installation to be able to burn those iso through nautilus - did I missed something on this installation ?
[02:43] <bretzel> Thus, How I can make nautilus to burn iso files ?
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> right click
[02:45] <HrdwrBoB> write to disc
[02:45] <rcaskey_> wowzers, ubuntu is gainin on the biggest distrowatch players
[02:47] <bretzel> HrdwrBoB: that is the problem: there is nothing about burning in the ctx menu - !
[02:48] <bretzel> HrdwrBoB: There are only the basic ops like delete; open with other apps etc ... nothing else
[02:50] <bretzel> HrdwrBoB: And nautilus cd-buring pkg is installed ...
[02:50] <synan> there is only one thing "wrong" with ubuntu, like many others that makes me stick to my slack. Bad offline support, or to explain, when you dont have internet - packet management nullifies itself..
[02:51] <synan> if i find a way to get over that, i will be a happy ubuntu user..
[02:51] <synan> one distro that made that right altho being heavily a download distro is SourceMage..
[02:52] <synan> what ubuntu currently lacks is the abillity to see the deps of some packages without acctually having internet..
[02:52] <synan> some packages meaning packages not installed nor available on the cd..
[02:53] <bretzel> I am really screwed! What if I drag the iso file into cd cd-dvd burning window - ?
[02:54] <dud> you can have a cdrom entry, or a file entry with "emergency packages"
[02:54] <dud> in your sources.list
[02:54] <dud> its upto yourself to provide a sane offline enviroment
[02:54] <dud> as it is with slack as well
[02:55] <RU63> Does anyone know how to change eth1 to wlan0  ?
[02:55] <bretzel> Nautilus cd-dvd burning: I see the problem but cannot figure out how I can change the mime-type: ISO file are of type "unknown" !!! what the heck is that ?
[02:57] <dud> bretzel, are you sure your iso file is complete and without errors?
[02:58] <RU63> I have eth0 (plugin)  anf eth1 (wireless)  both of those won't work together.  Thus I need to make the eth1 to wlan0 so i can use both.
[02:58] <RU63> how?
[02:58] <bretzel> dud: How can I say ? ok I gonna mount it (loop )
[02:59] <IrIT> Hi
[02:59] <bretzel> dud: No there seems no errors - if I can mount the iso and browse its contents - that means it is ok
[03:00] <jcoxon77> RU63: what is your wireless network card?
[03:00] <dud> yeah, should be ok then
[03:00] <AzMoo> I <3 whoever is the driving force behind this operating system.
[03:00] <RU63> centrino
[03:00] <RU63> 2100
[03:00] <RU63> i am wireless right now...
[03:00] <RU63> but i had to edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[03:00] <RU63> and change the eth0 to eth1
[03:01] <RU63> i want them both in working though
[03:01] <RU63> so i need to change the eth1 to wlan0, i think
[03:01] <jcoxon77> RU63: its strange that wireless has gone to eth1, pretty much all drivers now use wlan0
[03:01] <bretzel> dud: If only ISO mime-type were registred but I dunno how to set it up
[03:01] <RU63> hmm
[03:01] <jcoxon77> RU63: did you have to install any drivers, or was it automagically working?
[03:02] <RU63> was automatically set to eth1
[03:02] <RU63> i installed drivers too
[03:02] <RU63> has been eth1 since install
[03:02] <RU63> is there a way to change it manually?
[03:03] <jcoxon77> RU63: one sec, just checking
[03:03] <dud> bretzel, the problem is that you cant just burn an ISO like a normal file like that...
[03:03] <dud> why dont you just use cdrecord manually?
[03:04] <synan> dud, but i havent seen a way to add a complete list of universe packs so i could search them using synaptic? i am new to debs..
[03:06] <synan> dud, know of a way?
[03:06] <siretart> RU63: I'm using ath0 for wireless, my girlfriend eth1 for wireless. nothing wrong about that
[03:07] <AzMoo> Is there not a package for Firefox 1.0 ?
[03:07] <siretart> AzMoo: in hoary, not in warty
[03:08] <AzMoo> siretart, so if I change the distribution to hoary in Synaptic I should be able to get it?
[03:08] <bretzel> no luck- cd-dvd burning - dragging the iso file into the window also screwed!!! what the f*&^ I can do ???
[03:08] <RU63> siretart: does she also have eth0 in the /etc/network/interfaces
[03:09] <siretart> AzMoo: better don't. this would upgrade your whole system to hoary. I'm not sure you would want this
[03:09] <siretart> RU63: I think so, yes
[03:09] <Guardiann> bretzel how are you trying to burn the iso
[03:10] <AzMoo> siretart, hoary is an unstable version?
[03:11] <RU63> how should my /etc/networking/interfaces look?
[03:11] <bretzel> Gaurdiann: Of course but my problem is that nautilus / gnome/ mime-types system doesn't recognize the iso - I have tested mounting it in loopback and suuccessfuly browse the contents - but nautilus can't do nothing even burning the iso as a file doens' work
[03:11] <Guardiann> try burning it with k3b
[03:11] <Guardiann> works very good with iso's
[03:12] <siretart> AzMoo: hoary is in development, it will be released in a may
[03:12] <bretzel> It totally screwed: only thing done to the blank dvd ( yes it is a dvd image iso ) is fixating; and about 30% is written if I look the surface
[03:12] <siretart> RU63: please in channel
[03:13] <RU63> ok
[03:13] <RU63> how does her interfaces file look?
[03:13] <bretzel> Guardiann: k3b needs to be running as root else there is too much setting to do I tried once... no luck either
[03:13] <Guardiann> yep in warty it does
[03:13] <RU63> and how do i get you to be red?
[03:14] <RU63> new to x-chat
[03:14] <dud> you have to press one button in k3bsetup to get it running
[03:14] <dud> is that too hard?
[03:14] <Guardiann> :)
[03:14] <siretart> RU63: dont know for sure, she uses the gnome menu to setup her interfaces
[03:14] <AzMoo> siretart, fair enough. Is there another way I can upgrade it? Just download some .debs or something?
[03:14] <bretzel> dud: no that is not the problem with k3b - this app needs root privilege and I don't want to enable the root account
[03:15] <siretart> AzMoo: do you really need 1.0? why not waiting for hoary to be released?
[03:15] <dud> you can use the backports for firefox 1.0 in warty siretart
[03:15] <Guardiann> bretze you open up terminal and type
[03:15] <Stuttergart> is there a channel bot?
[03:15] <dud> works great in hoary without root privileges bretzel ....
[03:15] <daniels> no
[03:15] <Guardiann> gksudo k3b
[03:15] <bretzel> ok lets try it again...
[03:15] <siretart> dud: last time I used the backports, they used a package version number higher that the one in hoary
[03:15] <Stuttergart> It looks like evolution in hoary is hosed but I'm trying to avoid asking about it here if it is already documented. ;)
[03:16] <AzMoo> siretart, I'm an Intranet Web Developer. 0.9.3 has a few problems with dynamically creating checkboxes. This has been fixed in 1.0.
[03:16] <njan> Stuttergart, I just apt-get dist-upgrade'd and evolution works fine for me in hoary
[03:16] <njan> Stuttergart, what problems are you having with it?
[03:16] <siretart> dud: so upgrades to hoary still kept the version from backports. as long this isn't fixed, I would'nt recommend the backports for warty
[03:17] <Stuttergart> njan:   evolution: Depends: libcamel1.2-1 (>= 1.1.3) but it is not installable
[03:17] <dud> ok, never used warty myself, im running hoary
[03:17] <siretart> AzMoo: in this case, I would suggest to try an uprade to hoary on a test machine, to see if hoary is usable for you. But it is work in progress and tons of updates are floating into hoary evry day
[03:18] <Quarupted> is warty like a dwarfed version of the other one?
[03:18] <dud> siretart, besides, if you removed the old backports version, and removed the backport entry from sources.list... wheres the problem?
[03:18] <darmou> does anyone know of an x config tool for x.org?
[03:18] <Scognito> hi all
[03:18] <siretart> AzMoo: for myself, I'm very happy with hoary, but If there are problems, I'm able to fix them myself. don't know about you..
[03:18] <dud> xorgconfig
[03:18] <Guardiann> Quarupted no
[03:19] <Scognito> i don't know my blank cd are not recognized by the system (hoary)
[03:19] <siretart> dud: that I would have to do it myself with aptitude. look how http://backports.org solved that problem
[03:19] <darmou> thanks dud:)
[03:19] <AzMoo> siretart, I'm not particularly familiar with Ubuntu or Debian. I'm a passable administrator of other distributions, but nothing special. I wouldn't call myself competent.
[03:19] <Scognito> k3b and nautilus-cdburner tell me that there is "no medium found"
[03:19] <AzMoo> siretart, so it's probably not a good idea.
[03:20] <AzMoo> It's ok, I'll just use windows for that part.
[03:20] <siretart> AzMoo: indeed
[03:20] <siretart> AzMoo: another solution would be to install firefox 1.0 from hand in /opt
[03:20] <bretzel> duh - k3b  works - burning the dvd iso - but this is not fixing the nautilus mess --- I really don't know why it is messedup - I re-installed ubuntu two days ago and this is the first time i intent to use the nautilus cd-dvd burning - in the previous installation it was working really great...
[03:20] <ups> AzMoo: i have tried the firefox package for hoary in warty, and it worked fine
[03:21] <Guardiann> bretzel your welcome :)
[03:21] <siretart> ups: yes? the last time I tried that if fucked up my gnome libs, preventing gdm to start
[03:21] <siretart> s/if/it/
[03:21] <bretzel> Yeah! thanks Guardiann - but I am running a bad nautilus installation! I would feel better if it could be fixed!
[03:21] <ups> siretart: until yesterday, yes. now i've upgraded to hoary, but it worked smooth
[03:22] <ups> i used it for 3-4 days
[03:22] <Guardiann> ok off to work I go have fun all
[03:22] <bretzel> :-)
[03:22] <siretart> ups: yes, this was the reason for me to upgrade to hoary (I was close before a reinstall, but hoary is working fine enough for me)
[03:22] <AzMoo> Nah, it's ok. I'll stick with 0.9.3 on this box and just leave the other one turned on for testing those particular forms.
[03:23] <timello> hi there, apache-ssl not accepts SSLOptions, I need this SSLOptions +FakeBasicAuth +ExportCertData +CompatEnvVars, we have SSLExportClientCertificates, but only export client, I need server certificate too, idea?
[03:23] <Quarupted> can someone walk me through auto mounting a ntfs part read only and getting an icon on my desktop?
[03:23] <siretart> AzMoo: I think this is a save decision
[03:23] <AzMoo> I appreciate the help though, thanks :)
[03:23] <ups> siretart: i didnt upgrade to hoary for firefox though, i wanted to have xorg ;)
[03:23] <bretzel> sireatrt: About hoary - how did you manage to install it fine ???? Is there a chance that in the current repos, hoary beggins to be usable ?
[03:23] <ups> AzMoo: that sounds safe
[03:25] <timello> guys, found, thx
[03:26] <dud> hoary has reached some kind of freeze now... its gonna be more and more stable
[03:26] <bretzel> Hey guys, you are talking about Firefox 1.0 ??
[03:26] <siretart> bretzel: hoary is usable for me [tm] . But as said, I think there are too many updates to it yet for general recommendation
[03:27] <bretzel> siretart: When hoary - xorg and nvidia-glx  are ok I will jump to it!
[03:27] <vitaminmoo> 'lo all
[03:27] <Quarupted> what is Xorg?
[03:28] <Quarupted> like an x server alt?
[03:28] <dud> im using xorg with nvidia-glx
[03:28] <Quarupted> Is there 3ddesktop for warty?
[03:28] <siretart> Quarupted: have a look at http://freedesktop.org
[03:28] <bretzel> Quarupted: yes xorg is xserver alt based on XFree86 <4.4
[03:28] <siretart> Quarupted: no, xorg is the new upstream for ubuntu for the X11 server.
[03:29] <Quarupted> oh
[03:29] <Quarupted> can warty have 3ddesktop?
[03:29] <Stuttergart> y, evolution in hoary is hosed. :\
[03:29] <bretzel> Quarupted: yes 3ddesktop is there use synaptic
[03:30] <vitaminmoo> The single thing that I don't like about ubuntu so far is that it has no rolling release
[03:30] <bretzel> And go have a look at the ubuntu wiki - read about 3ddesktop tuning
[03:30] <vitaminmoo> Which isn't all that horrible
[03:31] <bretzel> dud: ?
[03:31] <Cam-> so thats happening with hoary and xorg?
[03:31] <Quarupted> dont see 3d desktop what is package name?
[03:32] <bebek> hello
[03:33] <Quarupted> ?
[03:33] <bretzel> Quarupted: wait I figure out if other apt source repo is needed in addition to the default sources for 3ddesktop
[03:33] <bebek> i tried to compile the kernel module for fglrx...but it complains that /usr/src/linux is not available (the kernel source). where should i get the kernel source for the one i'm using right now?
[03:33] <Quarupted> bretzel, what?
[03:33] <vitaminmoo> bbl
[03:34] <Quarupted> so no 3d desktop for warty?
[03:34] <bretzel> Quarupted: we can install 3ddesktop easy with apt-get but I can't say if the default sources repositries provides that package - wait...
[03:34] <Quarupted> ok
[03:36] <Quarupted> bretzel, ?
[03:37] <bretzel> Quarupted: To be sure that it works: fireup terminal console and do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   - to edit the sources file
[03:38] <bretzel> then add this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty universe
[03:38] <bretzel> and then also this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse
[03:38] <dud> hmm, isnt it possible to change theme in ubuntu gnome...?
[03:38] <Quarupted> okay
[03:39] <dud> nothing happens when i change it in the theme preferences
[03:39] <Quarupted> then just apt-get install 3ddesktop?
[03:39] <bebek> anyone has ever have to compile the ATI kernel module for ubuntu? or does everyone just use sudo apt-get fglrx-driver, and it works straight away? Coz mine doesn't work...
[03:40] <bretzel> Quarupted: yes if you want to use cmdline console but you can run synaptic which is really easy, and 3ddesktop appears at the beggining because of the alphabetic sorting of pkgs
[03:40] <LinuxJones> dud, thqt's q known problem
[03:40] <LinuxJones> argh bad typing skills
[03:40] <dud> s/q/a hehe
[03:40] <LinuxJones> t:P
[03:40] <dud> ok.... rather crap :o
[03:42] <linuxguy> question: I had issues running ubuntu because it failed to work with my adsl connection. Are these problems solved?
[03:42] <LinuxJones> linuxguy, what problem is that ? What kind of hardware do you have ?
[03:42] <linuxguy> sis900 eth
[03:43] <linuxguy> it simply does not work with dhcp. checked the forums, but noone with the same problem was given a sulotion there
[03:43] <linuxguy> *solution
[03:43] <LinuxJones> linuxguy, that card should be automatically found
[03:43] <bretzel> Quarupted: Oh! I forgot :  sudo apt-get update
[03:44] <linuxguy> but it did not. I have an official cd, and it does not work
[03:44] <LinuxJones> linuxguy, do you still have it installed ?
[03:44] <bretzel> Quarupted: To update the pkg lists from the added rops
[03:44] <linuxguy> no. I want to know if it works before I remove my current installation
[03:44] <LinuxJones> linuxguy, is it a usb adsl modem ?
[03:44] <linuxguy> no
[03:44] <linuxguy> works with every other distro except vida
[03:44] <Sav> How do i download mozilla-firefox 1.0 with apt-get? cant find it in synaptic
[03:45] <bretzel> Sav: apt-get upgrade
[03:45] <LinuxJones> linuxguy, that should be easy to get up and running, do you have internet access on another machine if you start the install ?
[03:45] <linuxguy> no
[03:45] <LinuxJones> bretzel, don't tell folks that
[03:45] <linuxguy> one 1 pc connected
[03:45] <LinuxJones> :D
[03:46] <bretzel> Linuxjones: why ? I did and got filefox 1.0
[03:46] <Sav> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:46] <LinuxJones> bretzel, your running Hoary though right ?
[03:46] <bretzel> No
[03:46] <LinuxJones> eh ?
[03:46] <bretzel> warty
[03:46] <linuxguy> I owuld suggest apt-get update
[03:46] <linuxguy> *would
[03:46] <linuxguy> and then try synaptic again
[03:46] <LinuxJones> bretzel, when did that get uploaded
[03:47] <linuxguy> LinuxJones: Suggestions?
[03:47] <bebek> why ftp://ftp.nerim.net gives me "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907"
[03:47] <bebek> when i do apt-get update
[03:47] <bebek> (i'm running hoary)
[03:48] <LinuxJones> bretzel, that kind of sucks you can't :(
[03:48] <linuxguy> bebek?
[03:48] <Sav> bretzel, do i have to add new sources to the source.list to be able to get mozilla ff v1.0 ?
[03:48] <linuxguy> what happens then?
[03:48] <bebek> linuxguy: yes?
[03:48] <bretzel> Linuxjones: Uploaded ??? I dunno, I have ran update and installaing unrelated pkg, before aplying, the no to be updated showed a couple of pkgs, and firefox 1.0 was there - two days ago
[03:48] <Sav> bretzel, if yes, what sources
[03:48] <bebek> linuxguy: nothing... i don't even know if that would affect anything
 when i do apt-get update
 (i'm running hoary)
[03:48] <linuxguy> you get a new package list
[03:49] <bebek> linuxguy: oh... read the message before, about "The following signature.. bla bla"
[03:49] <LinuxJones> bretzel, I only have 0.9.3
[03:49] <bretzel> I have universe, multiverse, marillat(test, unstable, ? )
[03:49] <linuxguy> ok
[03:49] <TW> i have enabled root user
[03:49] <TW> is it possible to disable it?
[03:49] <RU63> siretart: I got it to work... THANKS.... u mentioning that your girlfriend used the gnome menue...
[03:49] <RU63> is all it took
[03:50] <bretzel> Linuxjones: If you want I can flood the contents of my sources.list :-)
[03:50] <LinuxJones> bretzel, no that's ok :D
[03:50] <siretart> RU63: you're welcome
[03:50] <Demitar> Is there a way to use another debconf level when installing a specific package? (Or would I have to change the global debconf level temporarily?)
[03:51] <bretzel> :-) - sorry, I have also other unsupported repos but I don't think firefox 1.0 is from them :-)
[03:51] <RU63> siretart: i spent days trying to do it in terminal.... took a min in menu... DOH!
[03:51] <LinuxJones> bretzel, yes I am sure it's from another repo :D
[03:51] <siretart> Demitar: dpkg-reconfigure -plow <package>
[03:51] <bebek> i have to say i hate ATI Radeon & Linux.. can't configure it to work with ubuntu
[03:51] <bebek> so sad
[03:52] <bretzel> Quarupted: ?
[03:52] <Quarupted> yes?
[03:52] <LinuxJones> bebek, alot of folks with ATI are having some troubles right now
[03:52] <Quarupted> i got it but it messed up my screen
[03:52] <Demitar> siretart, yes, the problem was that the package would break unless I changed the option during package install.
[03:52] <siretart> Demitar: then preseed it
[03:53] <bretzel> Quarupted: Did you get 3ddesktop ? - Did you "sudo apt-get update" before apt-get install 3ddesktop ?
[03:53] <bebek> LinuxJones: i can't run fgl_glxgears.. it says "X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)".. and looking at /var/log/Xorg.log says that the kernel header are incompatible or something like that with fglrx
[03:54] <LinuxJones> bebek, are you running warty or hoary
[03:54] <bebek> LinuxJones: hoary
[03:54] <bretzel> Quarupted: It should not mess you screen!! I used it in previous ubuntu installation and it was running well - only missing steps to get it work full - Have a look at ubuntu wiki - but wait I will give you the url
[03:54] <LinuxJones> bebek, well vesa is always there :(
[03:54] <Demitar> siretart, and how would I do that in practice? Run dpkg-foo or edit some magic file?
[03:55] <klaym> is there somewhere a file with list of all programs that are started upon gnome startup?
[03:55] <bebek> LinuxJones: yeah i guess..... i even installed hoary just to try out if my Radeon will work with it, as daniels said.. but obviously it doesn't
[03:56] <bebek> LinuxJones: looking in internet, it seems that i need to compile the module for the kernel.. but I can't, since i don't have the kernel source for the kernel that hoary is running right now (i.e. i don't have /usr/src/linux/bla bla bla)
[03:56] <siretart> Demitar: thats quite advanced usage of debconf. install debconf-doc, look at the documentation, use google. sorry, its to long to explain it on irc
[03:56] <Demitar> siretart, either way, thanks. I solved it by dpkg-reconfigure debconf temporarily, but I would really prefer dpkg -p{}.
[03:56] <bebek> LinuxJones: do you know how I can get the /usr/src/linux/bla bla bla) ?
[03:56] <LinuxJones> bebek, you will be looking for linux-source
[03:57] <bebek> LinuxJones: i downloaded it
[03:57] <LinuxJones> bebek, ok cd /usr/src
[03:57] <hou5ton> i downloaded the Ubuntu cd, and it "starts" to install, but locks up at about the third step, i.e. choosing the language
[03:57] <bretzel> Quarupted: Here the URL:http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/3ddesktopHowto/view?searchterm=3ddesktop
[03:57] <bebek> LinuxJones: but while compiling, it complains that /usr/src/linux/include/version.h is not available.
[03:57] <hou5ton> any ideas?
[03:57] <LinuxJones> bebek, ok cd /usr/src
[03:57] <quarupted> why wont X-Chat remeber my nick?
[03:57] <hou5ton> i've burned it twice, .... same thing
[03:57] <bebek> LinuxJones: ok.. then?
[03:57] <LinuxJones> bebek, then do ls -al
[03:58] <bebek> then?
[03:58] <bebek> i have directory "linux" there
[03:58] <bretzel> Quarupted: Here the URL:http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/3ddesktopHowto/view?searchterm=3ddesktop
[03:58] <LinuxJones> bebek, you should see the kernel source filename ends with .bz2
[03:58] <bebek> LinuxJones: ehheeh i already decompressed it
[03:58] <LinuxJones> bebek, ok rm linux
[03:58] <pjalajas> sorry, newbie here, needing help troubleshooting a modem irq or io conflict
[03:59] <bebek> LinuxJones: rm it??? could you tell me what you are going to do?
[03:59] <LinuxJones> bebek, then do ln -s linux-source-directory linux
[03:59] <siretart> pjalajas: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingIRQProblems
[03:59] <LinuxJones> bebek, you have to change the link to the new source
[03:59] <bebek> ok....
[03:59] <pjalajas> wow, that was quick, thanks, I'll check it out.
[03:59] <LinuxJones> bebek, linux is just a link (pointer) to another file/directory
[03:59] <bebek> LinuxJones: but the one from linux-source_blalbalbal.bz2 doesn't have /include/version.h
[04:00] <bebek> LinuxJones: and that's required while compiling the kernel module for ATI
[04:00] <LinuxJones> bebek, did you decompress the linux-source ?
[04:00] <bebek> LinuxJones: yes
[04:00] <LinuxJones> bebek, so you did tar xfjv linux-source-2.6-whatever ?
[04:00] <bebek> yessss
[04:01] <bebek> linux-source-2.6.10
[04:01] <bebek> but uname -a  shows "<IP_ADDRESS>-4"
[04:01] <LinuxJones> bebek, ok so do ls -al does the linux link point to the decompressed source directory ?
[04:01] <bebek> is that ok?
[04:01] <LinuxJones> bebek, no
[04:01] <bebek> hmmmm
[04:02] <klaym> on firefox, how do I give my account and password for going to my ftp server?
[04:02] <bebek> LinuxJones: what should i do to get kernel 2.6.10 ?
[04:02] <bebek> LinuxJones: i did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, but the kernel didn't get updated
[04:03] <LinuxJones> bebek, you can run synaptic and search for linux-image
[04:03] <LinuxJones> bebek, or from command line do apt-cache search kernel-image | grep 2.6
[04:04] <LinuxJones> bebek, does your video card run in Warty ?
[04:05] <bretzel> hmmm 3ddesktop is running really well :-) but the screen freq has slowed now
[04:05] <bebek> LinuxJones: there's a lot of 2.6 there.. but they don't say if it is 2.6.10 or anything... the one that has three figures are only 2.6.8 and 2.6.9
[04:06] <bebek> LinuxJones: nope.. i have to use vesa in Warty
[04:06] <LinuxJones> bebek, I don't run Hoary sorry :(
[04:07] <BockBilbo> anyone here has tried wifi radar i ubuntu???
[04:07] <BockBilbo> http://www.bitbuilder.com/wifi_radar/
[04:07] <BockBilbo> ?
[04:09] <bebek> ok... if uname -a says that i have 2.6.8, it is safe to remove /lib/modules/2.6.10 right?
[04:09] <Cred> Hello
[04:09] <wezzer> hello
[04:10] <Cred> I have a brand new Samsung TFT here but I don't know the correct values for it to the xorg.conf
[04:10] <Cred> +spelling etc.
[04:10] <Cred> Anyhow, I know the recommended resolution for this and the Hz. How do I know what to put to xorg.conf?
[04:11] <LinuxJones> bebek, if your not planning on running 2.6.10 yes
[04:11] <bebek> htx
[04:11] <bebek> thx
[04:11] <bebek> now booting to 2.6.10
[04:11] <BockBilbo> obyeee
[04:12] <Mitario> hey guys
[04:12] <LinuxJones> Cred, check the manual that came with your screen to see what it can handle or check the manufacturers website
[04:13] <Mitario> anyone knows of the problem about not able to access smb shares via nautilus, but with smbclient it works?
[04:13] <bramz> somebody speak spanish??
[04:13] <LinuxJones> bramz, #ubuntu-es
[04:14] <bramz> thanks!!!
[04:14] <LinuxJones> :)
[04:15] <bebek> LinuxJones: i'm running 2.6.10 now... and i have the /usr/src/linux set to point to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10
[04:15] <LinuxJones> bebek, ok did you try loading the module in that kernel ?
[04:15] <bebek> wait
[04:15] <bebek> there is something
[04:15] <bebek> wait
[04:15] <bebek> i'll tell you later
[04:16] <bebek> hmmm
[04:16] <irbdavid> hiya, can anyone give me any pointers how to fix my sound - it's kinda crackly when other thing sare going on on the screen, eg mouse moving etc
[04:17] <bebek> something strange
[04:17] <bebek> i can compile the module, but can't make install it
[04:19] <im_ka> hi
[04:20] <im_ka> could someone help me set up a new hd?
[04:20] <im_ka> i'm having troubles with all partition tools. im trying parted, and it keeps telling me "Error: Unable to open /dev/hdc - unrecognised disk label." whatever i try to do
[04:21] <im_ka> i'm having troubles with all partition tools. im trying parted, and it keeps telling me "Error: Unable to open /dev/hdc - unrecognised disk label." whatever i try to do
[04:21] <LinuxJones> im_ka, where do you physically have the new drive connected too ?
[04:21] <collusion> does anyone here use ubuntu on a laptop?  i think postfix's chrooted /etc/resolv.conf doesn't get updated when the address of my wireless card changes.  is there some mechanism that's supposed to update that?
[04:22] <im_ka> LinuxJones, it's ide1 i think. in my mobile rack
[04:22] <im_ka> Information: The operating system thinks the geometry on /dev/hdc is
[04:22] <im_ka> 9727/255/63.  Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M.
[04:22] <im_ka> 9727/255/63.  Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M.
[04:22] <beowulf_> hello all
[04:22] <im_ka> sorry for the flood
[04:24] <im_ka> LinuxJones, first i need to create a disklabel, right?
[04:24] <ssam> is there a way to see a changelog in synaptic?
[04:25] <LinuxJones> fdisk /dev/hdc then type m + enter
[04:27] <beowulf_> can anyone help me with installing a modem with ubuntu
[04:30] <MasTinoX2> hi
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> can anybody help me with this
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> Linux tokyo-ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 #1 Thu Nov 18 11:47:33 UTC 2004 i686 GNU/Linux but
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> if i do a  apt-cache search kernel-source
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> kernel-source-2.2.25 - Linux kernel source for version 2.2.25
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> kernel-source-2.4.24 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.24 with Debian patches
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> kernel-source-2.4.25 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.25 with Debian patches
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> kernel-source-2.4.26 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.26 with Debian patches
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> kernel-source-2.6.5 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.5 with Debian patches
[04:32] <AzMoo> Does ubuntu come with a news reader?
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> kernel-source-2.6.6 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.6 with Debian patches
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> kernel-source-2.6.7 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.7 with Debian patches
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> MasTinoX2 :(
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> how can i get the same version
[04:32] <MasTinoX2> ?
[04:33] <ssam> azmoo thunderbird
[04:33] <LinuxJones> AzMoo, yeah pan
[04:33] <AzMoo> ssam, duh, of course. Thanks.
[04:33] <MasTinoX2> strange i don,t have the same kernel to download
[04:34] <benjami> hi
[04:34] <benjami> if i try to mount an logical ntfs partition my system freezes (hoary)
[04:34] <sanochaor> hola
[04:35] <godsmoke> benjami: by 'freezes' do you mean kernel panic?
[04:35] <sppt> hi
[04:35] <sppt> i need help!
[04:35] <lerio> hi eberybody. has evolution been deleted from the list of hoary's standard packages?
[04:35] <benjami> godsmoke, i can do nothing...
[04:35] <benjami> the screen freezes
[04:35] <godsmoke> benjami: that's not very clear -- don't do this in a gui -- go to a tty, and do it, so we know ...
[04:35] <sppt> whats the site for synaptic to install things like irc clients?
[04:36] <zido> what file should i "apt-get" to get a MySQL server to work with apache?
[04:36] <benjami> godsmoke, yeah the same
[04:36] <LinuxJones> MasTinoX2, search for linux-source & linux-image
[04:36] <godsmoke> sppt: site? -- there are irc clients in the ubuntu repositories -- and one installed -- xchat
[04:36] <sppt> i need amsn installed
[04:36] <godsmoke> zido: I belive it's mysql-server
[04:36] <lerio> hi everybody. has evolution been deleted from the list of hoary's standard packages?
[04:36] <godsmoke> sppt: well -- did you check if it's in the repository?
[04:37] <sppt> no
[04:37] <zido> okie
[04:37] <godsmoke> sppt: why not?
[04:37] <sppt> dunno where to find
[04:37] <godsmoke> zido: just open synaptic, and do a name search for "mysql"
[04:37] <bebek> LinuxJones: are you there???
[04:37] <LinuxJones> bebek, for about another 2 mins :)
[04:38] <LinuxJones> bebek, how did you get along ?
[04:38] <bebek> LinuxJones: I'm happy!! it works now!!!!
[04:38] <LinuxJones> sweet :)
[04:38] <bebek> LinuxJones: hehehehe
[04:38] <bebek> LinuxJones: i guess i will write guide for this...
[04:38] <daniels> bebek: quack
[04:38] <bebek> daniels!!!!
[04:38] <bebek> hehehehe
[04:38] <sppt> where is the repository?
[04:38] <bebek> how do you know that bebek is duck?
[04:38] <godsmoke> sppt: huh?
[04:39] <LinuxJones> bebek, put it on the wiki
[04:39] <daniels> dapat berbahasa indo
[04:39] <bebek> i will
[04:39] <bebek> ooooo
[04:39] <bebek> hehehe
[04:39] <bebek> on the weekend at least
[04:39] <bebek> not now.. since i have assignment due this friday. ehhehehe
[04:39] <MasTinoX2> LinuxJones, can find this linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[04:39] <klaym> sudo chown -R root:root <- what exactly happens there?
[04:39] <MasTinoX2> but for the sources this
[04:39] <zido> godsmoke: i did, but there was a looot of packages, one to work with apache2, but since i'm running 1.x.xx it wouldn't help :p
[04:39] <bebek> thx linuxjones
[04:40] <LinuxJones> bebek, :)
[04:40] <godsmoke> zido: right -- but that's not mysql-server
[04:40] <MasTinoX2> root@tokyo-ubuntu:/home/rafa/MyDownloads/fsam7400-0.4.0 # apt-cache search linux-source
[04:40] <MasTinoX2> linux-patch-debian-<IP_ADDRESS> - Debian patches to Linux <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:40] <MasTinoX2> linux-source-<IP_ADDRESS> - Linux kernel source for version <IP_ADDRESS> with Debian patches
[04:40] <MasTinoX2> is this valid ?
[04:40] <godsmoke> MasTinoX2: what do you mean, valid?
[04:40] <LinuxJones> MasTinoX2, you need to compile a module or something ?
[04:40] <MasTinoX2> yes LinuxJones
[04:41] <LinuxJones> MasTinoX2, for what device ?
[04:41] <MasTinoX2> need to compile
[04:41] <bebek> good night everyone
[04:41] <bebek> i'm in a happy mood
[04:41] <bebek> hehehe
[04:41] <LinuxJones> bebek, cya
[04:41] <bebek> bye
[04:41] <MasTinoX2> fsam7400-0.4.0 it is a http://rfswitch.sourceforge.net/
[04:42] <sanochaor> alguien habla castellano
[04:42] <MasTinoX2> so that i can but my wifi to work
[04:42] <MasTinoX2> yo
[04:42] <MasTinoX2> :P
[04:42] <sanochaor> jejej
[04:42] <MasTinoX2> LinuxJones, need the sources no ?
[04:42] <sanochaor> estoy intentando configurar mi Compact Scan Usb de Trust y no hay coj......
[04:42] <godsmoke> MasTinoX2: depends on which card you have
[04:43] <godsmoke> MasTinoX2: which card do you have?
[04:43] <MasTinoX2> ok it is a PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[04:43] <LinuxJones> MasTinoX2, what kind of wifi card do you have ?
[04:43] <LinuxJones> nm
[04:45] <phillix> anyone know how I get the System Configuration -> Screen Resolutioon wizard to recognize new resolutions that a newly connected monitor can handle?
[04:45] <godsmoke> that's not what the screen resolution chooser is for
[04:45] <godsmoke> it's not a wizard
[04:45] <LinuxJones> MasTinoX2, so the card works but you need some additional functionality ?
[04:45] <Ferry> anyone else having usb troubles after upgrading to current hoary
[04:46] <MasTinoX2> yes LinuxJones
[04:46] <MasTinoX2> need to install that module but then i get that error
[04:46] <phillix> what is the screen resolution chooser for?
[04:47] <MasTinoX2> so to compile i need the kernel sources right ?
[04:47] <godsmoke> to choose between resolutions that have been configured in the x11 config
[04:47] <phillix> i have tried adding new modes to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 but they dont appear in the chooser
[04:47] <godsmoke> probably because you didn't do it correctly
[04:48] <phillix> well I added the new mode to the beginning of each line where other modes are defined. do you have any other suggestions?
[04:48] <JammyB> could anyone spare 5 mins to help a newb get going with getting a C/C++ dev environment up and running please?
[04:48] <godsmoke> phillix: did you restart x?
[04:48] <phillix> yes
[04:48] <LinuxJones> MasTinoX2, what does uname -r output ?
[04:48] <godsmoke> JammyB: just install gcc
[04:48] <MasTinoX2> <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[04:48] <LinuxJones> JammyB, apt-get install build-essential
[04:49] <godsmoke> phillix: then you should run xfree86 config
[04:49] <phillix> i'll try that
[04:49] <JammyB> I've installed gcc using the packet manager, I can't seem to find how to run the thing!
[04:49] <collusion> you type 'gcc' at the command line?
[04:50] <JammyB> I used the synpatic package manager and installed gcc3.3 I think
[04:50] <JammyB> yet it doesn't appear in the menus
[04:50] <godsmoke> ...
[04:50] <JammyB> oh hang on, I might be very stupid
[04:50] <godsmoke> it's not graphical -- it's not supposed to appear in the menus
[04:50] <collusion> gcc isn't an ide, it's a compiler.
[04:50] <Martok> Does gcc link the source code too?
[04:50] <Martok> Or isn't it called "ld"?
[04:50] <Martok> The linker.
[04:51] <JammyB> ah I see now. what's the best ide to use with it?
[04:51] <JammyB> sorry for my idiocy, first time and that..
[04:51] <Martok> I've never used an IDE with gcc on Linux.
[04:52] <Bilbainan> Hi!
[04:52] <Martok> Hello.
[04:52] <Bilbainan> :D
[04:52] <Martok> ;[
[04:53] <Martok> What's up?
[04:53] <ssam> jammyb, depends what you want to do, if you are learning writing code in a text editor like gedit is a good place to start
[04:53] <JammyB> what about emacs or vim? are they just text editors then? I don't think I'd manage without something like visual studio or bloodshed
[04:53] <Bilbainan> XD
[04:53] <RU63> HI,  new problem - cd won't mount in new user.  Only in the first user
[04:53] <Martok> I just use vim myself.
[04:53] <scizzo> JammyB: anjuta?
[04:54] <Bilbainan> can someone explain me why if i install k3b in hoary, the kde control panel appears in the application menu of gnome?
[04:54] <scizzo> mono for .NET stuff?
[04:54] <JammyB> ah cheers those look like the type of things
[04:54] <Martok> Wasn't k3b made for KDE?
[04:54] <Bilbainan> yes
[04:55] <biezt> anybody here knows vsftpd and can help me make it run ?
[04:55] <Bilbainan> but... i thought the kde menus where different from gnome's
[04:55] <Bilbainan> :S
[04:55] <JammyB> ok thanks all, I'll have a go with those. cheers, bye
[04:56] <ssam> bilbainan, in theory they use the same system these days
[04:56] <Martok> I'm not experinced with KDE.
[04:56] <Bilbainan> ssam, which system?
[04:56] <Bilbainan> how is it called?
[04:57] <ssam> freedesktop.org
[04:57] <Bilbainan> oh.. and thats why in hoary the applications:// menu has dissapeared?
[04:57] <biezt> can anyone help me ?
[04:58] <pe7er> biezt: hey, i've been looking into that, too. although i haven't started it yet, but its on my todo list
[04:58] <ssam> is cups working in hoary at the moment?
[04:59] <pe7er> biezt: what is your specific problem? guess we could 'join forces' for that.
[05:00] <biezt> i understand nothing of vsftpd
[05:00] <biezt> and linux :P
[05:00] <Bilbainan> ssam, and is it possible to remove those kde control links from the menu?
[05:01] <pe7er> biezt: guess its all started through inetd
[05:01] <ssam> probably, but you may have to edit text fiels to do it
[05:02] <biezt> i know it runs, but what's my adress and what is the login :P
[05:02] <biezt> where can i find those ?
[05:02] <ssam> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards_2fmenu_2dspec
[05:02] <pe7er> biezt: can enlighten you with some basics. in debian based systems all config files are in /etc/, more specifcally in /etc/<packagename>
[05:03] <biezt> k tnx
[05:03] <scizzo> pe7er: ?
[05:03] <pe7er> wrong?
[05:03] <scizzo> pe7er: most of them are
[05:03] <scizzo> not all
[05:03] <pe7er> ok
[05:04] <pjalajas> I'm back.  DebuggingIRQProblems didn't help.  I see Kernel panic:  Fatal exception in interrupt.  Call Trace includes mentions of ltmodem ltserial do_softirq d_IRQ
[05:04] <scizzo> its the number one place to look for configurations for the whole system
[05:04] <pjalajas> that's after running "wvdialconf test"
[05:05] <pe7er> biezt: however, all docs are supposed to be in /usr/share/doc/<packagename> ... if they are compressed, you can view them by "zcat <filename>|less"
[05:05] <sladen> pjalajas: it's a binary driver.  There's not a great deal you can do except copmlain to the manufactuer and try to pursude them to release a source-based one that can actually be fixed
[05:05] <pe7er> scizzo: of course. i tried to make things simple as i hoped vsftpd keeps its configs there
[05:05] <pjalajas> that's the ltserial ltmodem that's binary?
[05:05] <pe7er> scizzo: however, it doesn't seem alike
[05:06] <biezt> pe7er is right !~
[05:07] <Bilbainan> byeee
[05:14] <pjalajas> cat /proc/interrupts lists ltserial, uhci_hcd on irq 10.  Is that my problem and can I remove the uhci one (I only need the modem at this point.
[05:17] <tuxer> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/view/1389
[05:20] <SePpiK> why doesn't run my WLan with WEP? It runs without WEP!!! Have anyone an Idea
[05:21] <SePpiK> I have an Intel Wireless pro 2100
[05:22] <snowblink> SePpiK: enable in your AP?
[05:22] <SePpiK> yes
[05:24] <SePpiK> when I disable it in my AP, and i disable it in /etc/network/interface it runs
[05:26] <snowblink> SePpiK: you've added the key to your interface?
[05:28] <SePpiK> yes, it is in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:36] <jono> if I dist-upgrade now, will I be spared the metacity bug?
[05:37] <njs> 12345
[05:37] <njs> oops
[05:37] <njs12345> I'm trying to follow the beagle tutorial
[05:37] <njs12345> I keep getting a System.NullReferenceException at Beagle.Daemon:SetupLog
[05:42] <jazzka> what happened to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ??
[05:42] <jazzka> is no more available?
[05:42] <Stew2> Where are the ISO's? Whenever I go to look for current ISO's of Ubuntu Hoary, all I find is .gz files.
[05:42] <pe7er> biezt: have you found out where to define the ftp root directories?
[05:45] <[DA] Cobra> hi is there any one here who can help instal ubuntu
[05:48] <bitfoo> hi
[05:48] <crimsun> [DA] Cobra: what sort of issues are you having?
[05:48] <crimsun> 'lo bitfoo
[05:49] <bitfoo> i had a quick question.  is there a wireless network browser similar to the windows one or the one that intel provides?
[05:49] <bitfoo> or do i have to input all the information manually
[05:50] <xet7> Hi, how do I install Gnoppix to hard drive?
[05:51] <pybe> xet7: with Knoppix its hd_install ithink
[05:51] <pw> Good afternoon, my Ubuntan friends.
[05:51] <QT> hi! trying to install ubuntu from CD and it fails installing the base-files package. can the CD be corrupt?
[05:51] <pybe> xet7: in a terminal try hd<tab><tab> or see if there is a menu item or somethign
[05:52] <pybe> QT yes the cd can me corrupt
[05:52] <pybe> s/me/be
[05:52] <QT> damn
[05:52] <QT> pybe: then i should probably try another one of the set
[05:52] <pybe-lappy> QT: did you check the md5sums on the iso?
[05:52] <QT> pybe: i received 10 CDs via mail order
[05:52] <pybe-lappy> QT: ahh
[05:52] <QT> no ISO involved!
[05:53] <pybe-lappy> QT: try the other 9 =)
[05:53] <[DA] Cobra> hello can some one please help me
[05:53] <QT> i received them thru mail and gave them to collegues. the 1st collegue has now this issue
[05:53] <bitfoo> :(
[05:53] <QT> pybe-lappy: ok, next week then, when i have been home again to get another one
[05:53] <crypticreign> evolution is gone.. and when i try to apt-get it i get   evolution: Depends: libcamel1.2-1 (>= 1.1.3) but it is not installable
[05:53] <QT> another collegue has a different problem. when d-i comes up the screen is flickering like hell
[05:53] <crypticreign> ugh, here i come into work and its dissapeared
[05:54] <pybe-lappy> QT: do a google, cause some cd drives can be weird i remember something about booting with nocddma or soethin
[05:54] <pybe-lappy> QT: try booting with nofb
[05:54] <pybe-lappy> QT: nofb for the flicker thing
[05:54] <QT> ok. trying to remember now everything :-)
[05:54] <QT> pybe: understood! :-)
[05:55] <QT> pybe: the problem with the CD happens on a VMware install. maybe that's the reason!?
[05:55] <pybe-lappy> QT: i think the wiki should have info on install cheat codes some where
[05:55] <pybe-lappy> QT: could be
[05:55] <QT> will check that
[05:55] <Ferry> were there any big acpi related changes in the last couple of days
[05:56] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Is usplash still planned for hoary?
[05:59] <pybe-lappy> is there a way to list available wifi access points in linux
[06:00] <QT> pybe-lappy: iwlist [iface]  scan
[06:00] <[DA] Cobra> hi guys i have windows os but i want to have ubuntu as well but if install on anouther drive can i choose on startup whic i want win or linux
[06:00] <QT> [DA] Cobra: yes, you can
[06:01] <QT> ubuntu will install Grub boot loader and let you choose between your current OS and ubuntu
[06:01] <pybe-lappy> QT: "Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported" i guess thats not supported in the driver then?
[06:01] <[DA] Cobra> so i just instal ubuntu on anouther phisical dirve
[06:01] <[DA] Cobra> or can it be a partision
[06:01] <crypticreign> evolution is gone.. when i apt-get it says  evolution: Depends: libcamel1.2-1 (>= 1.1.3) but it is not installable
[06:01] <QT> pybe-lappy: what card?
[06:01] <pybe-lappy> QT: intersil prism2
[06:02] <QT> [DA] Cobra: can be either
[06:02] <pybe-lappy> QT: dell 1200 or something
[06:02] <QT> pybe-lappy: hmm, never dealt with these
[06:03] <QT> pybe-lappy: i know some cards need to be UP before scanning. so try "ifconfig <iface> up" and then scan again
[06:03] <pybe-lappy> QT: its up and connected at the moment
[06:04] <QT> pybe-lappy: sorry, no idea and gotta go now calling it a day :-)
[06:04] <ficusplanet> pybe-lappy, I have a card that uses the prism2 drivers, as well (a Linksys WPC11 Ver. 3), and it does not support scan.
[06:04] <pybe-lappy> QT: i just wanted to test the overlaps of some of my access points with something like xps show available networks thing
[06:04] <QT> maybe later......
[06:04] <pybe-lappy> QT: tks
[06:04] <QT> pybe-lappy: and thanks again for suggestions! will try them!
[06:04] <pybe-lappy> ficusplanet: thought as much
[06:04] <zido> is there any way to get Apache with PHP support with "apt-get", or anybody know any good tutorials to install PHP on a Apache server?
[06:05] <ficusplanet> zido, apache 1 or 2?
[06:05] <zido> 1
[06:08] <ficusplanet> zido, I think you just need to apt-get install apache php4
[06:08] <ficusplanet> zido, if you go into synaptic, though, you can just browse all the php packages to add mysql support, etc.
[06:09] <zido> but i can't find for Apache 1, just apache2
[06:10] <ficusplanet> zido, do you have the universe repository in your sources.list?
[06:11] <zido> think so
[06:11] <zido> where was the file again? :p
[06:12] <ficusplanet> zido, you can just go into synaptic and go to settings->repositories.  Make sure you've checked the lines with universe in the sections.
[06:12] <zido> yep
[06:12] <zido> i have
[06:13] <ficusplanet> Have you updated your sources since then (clicked reload in synaptic or run apt-get update)?
[06:14] <zido> yes
[06:14] <ficusplanet> Then the package you need should just be called apache.
[06:14] <zido> i think i found it
[06:16] <HauntedUnix> How do i get loopback mounting working in Ubuntu (Warty)
[06:16] <HappyFool> sudo modprobe loop
[06:16] <HappyFool> then mount -o loop <etc> as usual
[06:17] <HauntedUnix> Ooer. didn't even think to look for an existing module - was thinking I'd have to compile one
[06:17] <HauntedUnix> THanks, HappyFool.
[06:17] <tjatja> hi,
[06:18] <tjatja> how do I install network in a TEXTbased ubuntu server system+
[06:22] <ficusplanet> tjatja, What do you mean by install network?
[06:23] <tjatja> Nice,
[06:24] <scaroo_> hi ppl ! i cannot find any python mode for emacs in the repos, am i blind ?
[06:25] <tjatja> I have installed a 'custom' ubuntu and it did not configure the network interface with a static address, netowrk name, etc. How do I put the right informatin in whatever config fiels, or is there a textbased script/program to install network info?
[06:25] <HappyFool> scaroo_: i see a python-mode
[06:26] <HappyFool> apt-cache --names-only search python-mode
[06:26] <scaroo_> forget about that, it was just in front of my eyes :s
[06:26] <scaroo_> HappyFool, thx
[06:27] <duzchip> ))
[06:27] <duzchip> ))
[06:33] <direwolf> anyone know how to gaim to see new installed plugins?
[06:33] <ficusplanet> tjatja, I'm not exactly sure how to make your settings permanent from the CLI, but you can get it working for this session at least by running "sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 xx.xxx.xxx.xxx up" where xx.xxx.xxx.xxx is your desired ip address.  Or you can run "sudo /sbin/dhclient eth0"
[06:33] <Neill> edit the file /etc/network/interfaces
[06:34] <Neill> which allows you to define ip addresses
[06:34] <Neill> and other network settings.
[06:34] <beetlebum> hi all! is there a gui for setting up services? i want hdparm to run by default, and some other things
[06:34] <bitfoo> is there a wireless network browser :|
[06:35] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, If you in hoary, netapplet should be in the universe repository.  If you aren't you can install the debian sid packages for netapplet and wireless-tools
[06:35] <direwolf> I have 2 wireless cards in my laptop, one is defined as eth1 and the other wifi0
[06:35] <direwolf> I do find out which piece of physical hardware is assigned to each
[06:35] <klaym> experiences on bluetooth connection to a Nokia phone on Ubuntu?
[06:36] <tjatja> THANKS! I think I have enough info to set up the network!!!
[06:36] <bitfoo> oh cool ficusplanet
[06:36] <bitfoo> i have wireless tools installed
[06:36] <bitfoo> dunno about netapplet
[06:36] <meepsa02> BITCHES AND HOES
[06:36] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, Are you in hoary or warty?
[06:36] <meepsa02> HOARY?
[06:36] <meepsa02> hoary?
[06:36] <meepsa02> is that new?
[06:37] <uid_zer0> anyone's having the new Evolution crashing right after it launches?
[06:37] <ficusplanet> meepsa02, It's the development branch of Ubuntu.
[06:37] <bitfoo> i am in warty
[06:37] <bitfoo> maybe i should try hoary?
[06:37] <beetlebum> is there a gui for setting up services and runlevels? i want hdparm to run by default, and some other things
[06:38] <pepsi> warty, hoary, and grumpy.. all qualities of a bad date
[06:38] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, You may run into some problems doing that - YMMV.  You might just want to install the debian packages of netapplet and wireless-tools (you need 0.27).
[06:38] <klaym> is hoary stable enough to try out? is it faster than warty?
[06:39] <kent> uid_zer0, my evolution (hoary, newly upgraded) works.
[06:39] <ficusplanet> klaym, I've been running it for over a month and haven't had problems
[06:39] <Sorcerer> hi
[06:39] <klaym> ficusplanet: ok
[06:39] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/netapplet
[06:39] <pw> beetlebum: Ubuntu doesn't use runlevels, at least not in the way you're probably thinking of.
[06:40] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, And this: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/wireless-tools
[06:40] <beetlebum> pw, so how do i enable certain services to run? what does ubuntu use/where can i get more info?
[06:40] <bitfoo> ok
[06:41] <pw> beetlebum: You generally just install stuff and enable it in its config file. Look in /etc/init.d to see what runs.
[06:41] <meepsa02> where do i get hoary
[06:41] <beetlebum> pw, thanks. so everything in /etc/init.d runs by default
[06:41] <pw> beetlebum: Also look in /etc/defaults for your service parameters
[06:41] <beetlebum> ?
[06:41] <pw> beetlebum: yes
[06:41] <beetlebum> pw, ok cool, i'll check it out. ta
[06:41] <uid_zer0> kent, hmm.. it throws "** ERROR **: Not enough memory to set up DBusConnection for use with GLib" at my face with a dirty crash
[06:41] <HappyFool> err, i thought the symbolic links from /etc/rc?.d determined what in /etc/init.d runs / doesn't run
[06:42] <pw> HappyFool: Well, yes, but the simple solution is to look in /etc/init.d; given that we run in runlevel 2, and everything that's in runlevel 2 runs, one might as well look in /etc/init.d
[06:43] <bitfoo> how can i tell what my latest wireless tools is :O
[06:44] <bitfoo> oh i have 26+27pre22 ficusplanet :|
[06:44] <NanoTek> KiKoo !!
[06:45] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, Yeah, that's why you need the debian package
[06:45] <bitfoo> is it jsut deb package.deb to install?
[06:46] <ficusplanet> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:46] <bitfoo> k
[06:46] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, This is what netapplet will give you: http://www.thecardinal1978.com/GNOME/netapplet.png
[06:47] <bitfoo> yah thats what i want :D
[06:47] <klaym> Should I expect some data loss or broken applications when upgrading from Warty to Hoary?
[06:47] <ficusplanet> klaym, You may have a few broken applications, but I don't think there is much of a chance for data loss.
[06:48] <phillix> i just connected a new monitor that can do higher resolutions than my old one. I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config and set new modes, but still the screen resolution chooser does not let me select the higher res. any ideas?
[06:48] <bonlamicq> help about how make a modem call connection for internet like windows connection
[06:49] <ficusplanet> phillix, did you change the refresh rates of the monitor as well as the resolution?
[06:49] <Stew2> Where are the current ISO's for Hoary located? I look them up and always find .gz files instead.
[06:49] <phillix> yes, i copied the refresh rates from the monitors docs
[06:50] <Stew2> Lingual question What is the name of a command which has been out-dated?
[06:50] <ficusplanet> Did you edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or just /etc/X11/XF86Config
[06:50] <bitfoo> whats dpkg command to install dependencies as well
[06:50] <jaco> hi all
[06:50] <phillix> sorry, my typo, there is only a XF86Config-4
[06:50] <jaco> good evening
[06:50] <[Phaedrus] > hello boys!
[06:50] <[Phaedrus] > :)
[06:51] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, Just install them one at a time or do "dpkg -i filename.deb filename2.deb ..."
[06:51] <phillix> Stew: ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/hoary/array-3/
[06:52] <farruinn> bitfoo: if you use apt you won't have to worry... otherwise put everything you want installed into one directory and do sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[06:53] <bitfoo> i think i got them all installed
[06:53] <Stew2> phillix thanks
[06:53] <bitfoo> how do i get them to show up :O
[06:53] <bitfoo> the browser i mean
[06:53] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, just run netapplet
[06:53] <farruinn> Stew2: deprecated?
[06:53] <tritium> ficusplanet, I'm glad you pointed netapplet out.  I was thinking only NetworkMonitor had that functionality.
[06:53] <bitfoo> oh but you have leave the console open?
[06:53] <whiprush> fabbione: the mini.iso dated the 21st is the latest for sparc right?
[06:54] <phillix> hey ficusplanet, any other thoughts on my res issue?? i'm stumped here...
[06:54] <farruinn> bitfoo: try [command] &
[06:54] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, if you go to Computer>>Preferences>>Sessions, you can add netapplet to your startup programs and it will run whenever you log in.
[06:54] <farruinn> that will put it in the background so you can close the terminal
[06:54] <farruinn> ^^^ but that's a better idea =)
[06:54] <bitfoo> oh cool o_O
[06:54] <ficusplanet> phillix, could you post your xf86config-4 somewhere on the Web?
[06:54] <bitfoo> im gonna log out and try it brb :D
[06:55] <phillix> ok, hang on
[06:56] <Susu> Hello
[06:57] <klaym> should I delete all warty-related from sources.list when upgrading to hoary? ubuntuguide only tells me to replace only warty universe and warty security. should I do the same for multiverse, backports etc?
[06:57] <erGoline> Why my sis630 + LCD works just at 800x600? :((
[06:58] <ficusplanet> klaym, Yes, replace every instance of warty with hoary.
[06:58] <klaym> ok thanks
[06:58] <Susu> I've got pretty stupid problem with booting into Ubuntu
[06:58] <ficusplanet> Susu, What's the problem?
[06:59] <uid_zer0> the chain joining a chair and a keyboard
[06:59] <uid_zer0> heh
[06:59] <Stew2> phillix is there a location online of floppy images? I've got two machines running windows at a location. They are both on a 600 kbps internet connection. I want to image a couple of floppies and do an over-the-network install. What say you?
[06:59] <Susu> ficusplanet: Ubuntu is on /dev/hda10 but whatever I try, it ends in a kernel panic
[06:59] <phillix> Stew2: I dunno about floppies, sorry
[06:59] <Susu> ficusplanet: Normally "kernel (hd0,9)/boot/vmlinuz initrd (hd0,9)/boot/initrd.img root=/dev/hda10 ro" should do, shouldn't it?
[07:00] <spiral> hi
[07:00] <spiral> I've got a problem with my modules...
[07:00] <alastairpoole> Has anyone had any success installing ubuntu on the G5.  I noticed a kernel patch online, but its vague as crap. Any ideas?
[07:00] <spiral> while booting, I got a lot of messages telling me modprobe syntax...
[07:00] <spiral> on hoary freshly updated
[07:00] <farruinn> Stew2: afaik there is no ubuntu floppy install, although you could install debian with floppies then "upgrade" to ubuntu
[07:00] <spiral> what should I do ?
[07:01] <Stew2> farruinn Is that fairly easy? Like do I run apt-get or something?
[07:01] <pe7er> alastairpoole: a lot of the building is done on xserves... or did you run into troubles?
[07:01] <Stew2> ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/ Why do folders like these have GZ files and no images?
[07:01] <zido> on "./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs=..." when installing PHP for apache, what's the "--with-apxs=..." tag for? what directory do i enter there?
[07:01] <Susu> I'm pretty much frustrated because it isn't working
[07:02] <pe7er> alastairpoole: if yes, please be a little more specific so somebody with the fitting knowledge might help you
[07:02] <ficusplanet> zido, Why aren't you just using the ubuntu packages?
[07:02] <Susu> ficusplanet: Any ideas?
[07:02] <alastairpoole> pe7er, well the install CD completely failed to boot, Spewed some info about GPU then firmware, then it died.
[07:02] <farruinn> Stew2: the "upgrade" is fairly straightforward if you're familiar with apt
[07:03] <pe7er> alastairpoole, oooh :( i've seen some threads and info about ubuntu on g5, but i can't remember those urls
[07:03] <spiral> please anyone about my modules problem ???
[07:03] <farruinn> basically do a base install of debian (probably want to go with stable), change your sources.list to ubutnu repos, then dist-upgrade and install the other things you need
[07:03] <alastairpoole> I have checked some of the threads out, but sadly they're completely useless.  People answering for the sake of an answer.
[07:03] <Susu> ficusplanet: The funny is, when installing GRUB into MBR, it boots just fine, but I don't want that, because I want GRUB from SourceMage (my main system) in MBR
[07:03] <Stew2> farruinn thanks
[07:04] <Stew2> I can handle that. Where do I get the debian diskette images from?
[07:04] <pe7er> alastairpoole, sorry, i guess i do the same here
[07:04] <farruinn> www.debian.org
[07:04] <farruinn> not sure of the exact location, but it's not hard to find
[07:04] <alastairpoole> nah.
[07:04] <ficusplanet> Susu, I'm not sure what the problem is.  I would just play around with the partitions in the grub config a bit.
[07:04] <Susu> Seems I'm the only one with THAT problem?! *sigh*
[07:05] <Susu> ficusplanet: I tried so many different configs, I'm tired by now
[07:05] <brk3> can anyone tell me how to apply a theme to gtk1 apps?
[07:05] <no0tic> why sudo aptitude dist-upgrade wants to install kernel 386 even if I've the last k7 one?
[07:05] <Susu> brk3: Install gtk-theme-switch
[07:05] <zido> ficusplanet: i still can't find the mod for PHP
[07:05] <Stew2> farruinn thanks. i got the page up and bookmarked it.
[07:05] <brk3> Susu: cool thanks
[07:06] <Susu> ficusplanet: I'm not completely stupid with linux, grub and lilo, but it isn't working in any way
[07:06] <pe7er> alastairpoole, this doesn't help really i suppose: Jeff Waugh: We actually have a few G5 Xserve machines for building our PowerPC packages, and had to write some kernel patches to get them to boot! That was pretty cool - maybe we were the first? I don't know. ;-) ppc64 support is on the list of things we want to deliver for our next release, due in April 2005 (there'll be a Preview again in March). We're not planning to support SPARC at the momen
[07:06] <pe7er> t... But I have a few machines here I could start building on! Anyone else? ;-)
[07:07] <ficusplanet> zido, If you install the php4 package, it will install the module for apache 1 by default.
[07:07] <Susu> brk3: You're welcome *g*
[07:07] <pe7er> looks like you got to apply those patches first
[07:07] <alastairpoole> pe7er, it is useful
[07:07] <bitfoo> works :D
[07:07] <brk3> Susu: so basically will that let me manage themes for gtk1 as well as gtk2?
[07:07] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, Awesome.
[07:07] <bur[n] er> when is 6 months after the warty release??
[07:08] <bitfoo> now if i get the battery status to work it will be awesome :D
[07:08] <alastairpoole> thanks pe7er
[07:08] <spiral> bitfoo: smart battery ? :-p
[07:08] <Susu> brk3: You can call "switch" for gtk1 and "switch2" for gtk2
[07:08] <Susu> bitfoo: hoary will be released in april
[07:08] <alastairpoole> I'll just wait for the next release, I don't have time to disasemble the install cd
[07:08] <brk3> Susu: ok. thanks again :)
[07:08] <bitfoo> its something else
[07:09] <bitfoo> something asus fucked up :|
[07:09] <bitfoo> with dsdt or something
[07:09] <zido> ficusplanet: it doesn't work tho
[07:09] <pw> Is there a workaround for bug#5482?
[07:09] <zido> what's the modulename?
[07:09] <ficusplanet> zido, libphp4.so
[07:10] <Susu> Does someone - by chance - has Grub/Lilo NOT installed into MBR?
[07:10] <pe7er> alastairpoole, :)
[07:10] <pw> zido: xfonts-75dpi, but I suspect it's misfiled.
[07:10] <ficusplanet> Make sure it isn't commented out in your httpd.conf.  And make sure your running your script from the DocumentRoot, etc.
[07:11] <Susu> Okay guys, thats all
[07:11] <piratePenguin> whats the best bittorrent client for ubuntu?
[07:11] <zido> pw: what?
[07:11] <bitfoo> http://www.gnomelook.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=19527&file1=19527-1.png&file2=19527-2.png&file3=&name=Clearlooks <---whats that bar on the bottom :O
[07:11] <zido> ficusplanet: thanks
[07:11] <pw> zido: sorry, thought you were asking about my bug modole :)
[07:11] <Susu> I'm tired of Ubuntu now and will enjoy my Source Mage now
[07:12] <Susu> bitfoo: its' the xfce-panel
[07:12] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, That's the XFCE dock.  You can do something similar in GNOME by making a panel and then telling it not to expand - in the properties page.
[07:12] <pe7er> piratePenguin, pirate? hell no, sharks patrol those waters. azureus? available via ubuntu backports, for example. but i've recently read it got some issues. however, it looks nice and has tons of features.
[07:12] <bitfoo> :O
[07:12] <zido> :P
[07:12] <klaym> could someone using Hoary do me a little favour please? that would be to paste me the inside of sources.list.
[07:13] <Susu> Bye, guys
[07:13] <bitfoo> BYEBYE
[07:13] <bitfoo> :|
[07:14] <bat> hi
[07:14] <Stew2> hi
[07:15] <piratePenguin> pe7er: lol.. believe it or not, torrents *do* have other uses other than pirate (just nobody uses them)... yea I think I'll try azureus... needs java, so I better get that.. thanks anyhow
[07:16] <ficusplanet> piratePenguin, There's also gnome-btdownload
[07:18] <piratePenguin> ficusplanet: cool... thats even better, thanks
[07:19] <ficusplanet> piratePenguin, np
[07:19] <piratePenguin> ficusplanet: know where I get it?
[07:19] <emanuelez> hello *
[07:20] <Sav> Anyone wanna help me with getting my wlan up n running?
[07:20] <emanuelez> Sav: did u check the wiki?
[07:21] <Sav> yep, about using ndiswprapper,
[07:22] <emanuelez> sav: indeed
[07:22] <Sav> driver and module seems ok and loaded, just cant choose the wlan when im setting up the network
[07:23] <Sav> its not in the list for some reason, ifconfig doesent see it
[07:23] <emanuelez> is your wlan card supported?
[07:23] <Sav> i guess, its a broadcom, read about ppl getting it to work with ndiswprapper
[07:24] <emanuelez> mmm... i would try sending them an email--- i'm not a wlan expert
[07:26] <TreadingSoftly> Hi folks. I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop as well as my desktop. My Linux and Windows machines talk to each other, slowly, with Samba. If I want fast and secure file sharing between my Ubuntu machines, should I keep using Samba, or should I install something else alongside? (And if so, what would you recommend?)
[07:27] <emanuelez> TreadingSoftly: secure uh? go with ssh
[07:28] <erGoline> hi, someone that could help me with a "stupid" X configuration (Sis630 chipset + LCD)?
[07:28] <TreadingSoftly> emanuelez: ssh is great... but how can i use it to open up a file on my desktop web server for editing in gedit or screem or quanta on my laptop? So far I only have experience with puttying into my Ubuntu desktop.
[07:29] <emanuelez> TreadingSoftly: i guess gnome vfs supports ssh
[07:29] <stuNNed> TreadingSoftly: scp and nautilus.
[07:30] <TreadingSoftly> I though scp was a secure copy utility, which is fine as far as it goes, but i want to be able to pull up and edit the original files.
[07:31] <stuNNed> TreadingSoftly: use nfs then
[07:31] <TreadingSoftly> Ah okay. Is NFS relatively secure?
[07:32] <ssam> ergoline. whats the prob
[07:32] <Dekkard> jorge?
[07:32] <HappyFool> is samba known to be slow?
[07:33] <TreadingSoftly> HappyFool: it doesn't seem terribly fast on my network... but then i have a mix of OSes - Win XP, Win ME, Ubuntu - some of which are better than others ;)
[07:33] <erGoline> hi ssam, I fight a night trying config the sis630 chipset with a LCD (it's a All-in-one LCD PC). Now it works (wow) but just a 800x600... 1024x760 (the ideal resolution) gives me just lines and distort images
[07:35] <ssam> ergoline, it defineatly posible. my girlfirends laptop has that chip, and it does 1024x760, i am pretty sure
[07:36] <Stew2_> what's the ubuntu command to find out how much free disk space I have?
[07:36] <HappyFool> df ?
[07:36] <HappyFool> or maybe df -H
[07:36] <ssam> ergoline, it did not need any special work
[07:37] <ssam> i could try and email you the x config, but it may take a few days
[07:37] <erGoline> ssam, the problem is the LCD panel (is well documentated the problem with sis630 + LCD)... attaching an external monitor all it's ok at 1024X768
[07:38] <ssam> it prob beyond me then, sorry
[07:39] <Stew2_>  1366468  in df. Is that 1.4 gigs?
[07:40] <ssam> stew2_ does it see 1k blocks
[07:40] <Stew2_> 1K blocks
[07:41] <HappyFool> Stew2_: try df -H
[07:41] <ssam> then yes
[07:41] <Stew2_> happyfool shizz that's a lot better
[07:43] <erGoline> ssam, could you get you girlfriend's xf86config or give me any hint?
[07:44] <stuNNed> TreadingSoftly: if the NFS share and clients are on the local LAN then probly it's ok, I'd wouldn't open it up.
[07:44] <mz2> what does exit code 1 mean? i get this when i try opening up the root terminal from the system tools menu
[07:44] <ssam> ergoline: ok, i'll email her, may take a day or two
[07:45] <ssam> egoline: whats your email
[07:45] <ka0> hi all
[07:45] <erGoline> ssam, ok thanx, I will query you in 3/4 days jere
[07:45] <ka0> please help with mp3 support in warty
[07:46] <carsonc> Does anybody happen to know offhand if it's possible to create an AtheOS/SyllableOS partition (AFS (not the Kerberos AFS)) under Linux?
[07:46] <ka0> i need gstreamer0.8-mad but dependencies are broken
[07:46] <carsonc> I can't find anything on it via Google or the Syllable site
[07:47] <daniel-> hello all, am after a little help, i've just installed ubuntu, but i messed up the part where i was supposed to choose what resolutions i wanted gnome to support, is there a way of sorting this post install?
[07:49] <unperson> ka0, The dependencies are broken?
[07:49] <unperson> Is it possible to use Evolution to check my mail on a Unix account (where I normally login and read with pine)?
[07:50] <carsonc> unperson: That's a qualified yes.
[07:50] <bitfoo> hmm these mesa drivers are not the nice :|
[07:50] <ka0> yes, gstreamer0.8-mad depend on libid3tag0 but it's not installable
[07:50] <ka0> according to apt-get
[07:50] <carsonc> If the machine you're logging into (over the network, I'm assuming) makes mail available via POP3 or IMAP then, yeah, of course.
[07:51] <Sav> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
[07:51] <Sav>        or too many mounted file systems
[07:51] <Sav>        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
[07:51] <Sav>        instead of some logical partition inside?)
[07:51] <Sav> Any ideas?
[07:51] <ka0> it's known problem but i can't found relevant decision
[07:52] <ka0> s/found/find
[07:53] <unperson> ka0, Why do you say it's a known problem?
[07:53] <HappyFool> Sav: what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' say?
[07:53] <unperson> ka0, Sorry, it worked for me when I installed it several months ago and I haven't messed with it since.
[07:54] <Sav>  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[07:54] <unperson> ka0, So, I'm just trying to see where you're coming from.  Didn't see anything in a quick google search.
[07:54] <Sav> hmm
[07:54] <klaym> is there a way to apt-get an "xml parser"
[07:54] <ka0> i found description of that problem on some forums but only description
[07:54] <HappyFool> klaym: python comes with an xml parser (two, i think)
[07:54] <Nafallo> hi all! can someone explain why fluxbox is missing menuitems?
[07:54] <Sav> unperson, how do i mont? -t xxx?
[07:55] <neighborlee> hi peeps..weird problem here..evolution crashed on me while receivivng email..even after a reboot it wont recieing anymore saying that the program is 'already processing' and some POP error....problem is that my 'X' CPU usage is hanging consistent around 10%..the REAL weird part is it ONLY does this in gnome and NOT KDE..anyone know how to resolve this cause I dont really want to use kde <wink>
[07:55] <klaym> HappyPool: thanks!
[07:55] <unperson> Sav, Huh?  I wasn't paying attention to your conversation.
[07:55] <Sav> W95 Ext'd (LBA) is the filetype. how do i mount that?
[07:56] <unperson> ka0, Let me ask first, you did an apt-get update first before trying the apt-get install?
[07:56] <elnovato> hello ubuntu guys
[07:56] <elnovato> i want to install ubuntu on my laptop toshiba a60, will that work??/
[07:56] <elnovato> before i tried with debian but failed...
[07:56] <HappyFool> Sav: that's an extended partition. you can't mount it
[07:56] <Sav> there is noway to mount at all?
[07:57] <ka0> 2unperson, apt-get update; apt-get install
[07:57] <netmonk> elnovato, i'm now with toshiba a40 and it works great
[07:57] <tritium> neighborlee, try "evolution --force-shutdown" and try again
[07:57] <HappyFool> Sav: what is mounted at the moment?
[07:57] <elnovato> netmonk: thanks , ill be asking to you questions
[07:57] <ka0> i tried warty and hoary repository both
[07:57] <HappyFool> Sav: and what are you trying to achieve?
[07:57] <Sav> HappyFool, hda1, windows primary disk
[07:57] <elnovato> is there any smart NET install , like debian, for ubuntu ??? i dont want to download 600 mb iso
[07:57] <ka0> release for amd64
[07:57] <neighborlee> tritium, got that advice already from #evolution but it didn't help I dont think.but ill try it again to be sure
[07:57] <Sav> trying to mount hda2 =) need files there
[07:58] <netmonk> elnovato, you are most welcome
[07:58] <randabis> :( STILL haven't sorted out this nfs mess :/
[07:58] <spiral> ouah... openoffice2 testing in hoary ? nice :-)
[07:58] <netmonk> elnovato, I don't know - i downloaded the iso file
[07:59] <HappyFool> Sav: paste the output of your fdisk -l to the pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:59] <HappyFool> Sav: and tell me the resulting URL
[07:59] <randabis> To be truthful I think a new install would require more to be downloaded than the iso (depending on package selection of course)
[07:59] <randabis> a default install probably would at any rate
[07:59] <randabis> a net install rather
[08:00] <alexissoft> hi
[08:00] <alexissoft> there is a little problem of incoherent files in hoary repository, is it normal ?
[08:00] <unperson> ka0, It doesn't find the dependancy (libid3tag0) at all or just not the right version?
[08:00] <Sav> HappyFool, http://rafb.net/paste/results/hB2KBu35.html
[08:01] <HappyFool> Sav: you probably want to mount /dev/hda5
[08:01] <unperson> ka0, And you said you're using warty or hoary?
[08:01] <alexissoft> incorrect md5 and package size
[08:01] <ka0> unperson, it doesn't find it at all
[08:02] <cswanson> quick question, in irssi, is there any way to list the channels on a server? I can't seem to find it in the man page... maybe I'm blind
[08:02] <Sav> HappyFool, haha, thats right, dident notice. lol. Can i give my user access to read a mounted drive as well?
[08:02] <Nafallo> cswanson: /list I believe...
[08:02] <cswanson> ok, thx
[08:02] <HappyFool> yeah, pass the umask=000 option to mount. something like -o umask=000
[08:02] <alexissoft> for laptop-detect_0.10_i386.deb (md5), python-pam_0.4.2-10.1ubuntu3_all.deb (size), python-musicbrainz_2.0.2-10ubuntu1_i386.deb (md5), python-kjbuckets_1.0.0-8ubuntu3_all.deb (md5), libpaper1_1.1.14ubuntu6_i386.deb (size), and libqthreads-12_1.6.7-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (md5)
[08:03] <Sav> ok
[08:03] <alexissoft> is anybody has an explanation ?
[08:03] <Sav> HappyFool, lats thing, unmount "bash: unmount: command not found"
[08:03] <Sav> last
[08:03] <HappyFool> Sav: try "umount"
[08:03] <alexissoft> ha
[08:03] <alexissoft> fixed :)
[08:06] <unperson> ka0, I don't get it, it seems to be there to me:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libi/libid3tag/
[08:06] <randabis> anybody know why I would be getting permission denied errors when I try to mount nfs shares?
[08:06] <unperson> Have you got that repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[08:06] <Aimio0> Hi. Gonna reboot ina min but before I do can I just check that there root passwd is blank?
[08:07] <Aimio0> (after a fresh install)
[08:07] <HappyFool> the root account is disabled. login as yourself and use "sudo" to execute root commands
[08:07] <Nafallo> Aimio0: yes
[08:08] <Aimio0> ty, rooting and ready to type `sudo -i`
[08:08] <elnovato> soo will never will be net install??
[08:08] <HappyFool> -i doesn't look like a valid sudo flag to me
[08:10] <randabis> sudo su works
[08:10] <randabis> elnovato possibly in the future...I don't know
[08:10] <Nafallo> randabis: you might aswell use sudo -s?
[08:10] <ka0> unperson, thnx, i'll try to install manually. Bug bug is really strange
[08:11] <tritium> sweet - I didn't realize until today that openoffice.org2 packages are available
[08:11] <tritium> installing now...
[08:12] <Sav> Only me having problem to get extenstion for firefox to work? some works ok other not at all.
[08:12] <elnovato> what verision of kde is on ubuntu now??
[08:12] <netmonk> elnovato, I don't know, I guess you can find that info in www.ubuntulinux.org
[08:12] <elnovato> does ubuntu was develo0ped on africa?
[08:12] <HappyFool> no. but shuttleworth is south african.
[08:13] <elnovato> oh.. i never used 5th world software
[08:13] <Sav> HappyFool, possible to mount read/write also?
[08:13] <Nafallo> dooh!
[08:13] <netmonk> elnovato, what did you use?
[08:13] <HappyFool> Sav: no, not for NTFS
[08:13] <elnovato> debian
[08:13] <Sav> HappyFool, ok
[08:13] <unperson> ka0, It really seems like you have some larger problem, because apt-get SHOULD see that that package exists.  Make sure you don't have a problem with your sources.list.
[08:13] <bitfoo> anyone use netapplet :|
[08:13] <Nafallo> you shall not execute /exec apt-cache search kde on the wrong system and in irssi :-P
[08:14] <bitfoo> and can tell me why wireless strength isn't showing for networks :|
[08:14] <pw> If anyone here is running KDE, please add your experiences to https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5482
[08:14] <tritium> debian is universal, elnovato
[08:14] <elnovato> i have a problem with debian, doesnt recognize properly the network card on the laptop, so im trying ubuntu
[08:14] <pw> Cheers muchly.
[08:14] <elnovato> ubuntu uses aptitude?
[08:14] <netmonk> well, elnovato, I tryied once debian and god totally lost ;) I felt like in the sixth world
[08:14] <netmonk> ;)
[08:14] <bitfoo> synaptic :O
[08:14] <K-Rich> what would be the easyest way to install dev tools (gcc g++ make etc) ?
[08:14] <elnovato> yeah, debian people are comunists
[08:15] <tritium> elnovato, if you want to
[08:15] <bitfoo> sudo apt-get install g++
[08:15] <tritium> elnovato, uses .deb packages, so you can use dpkg, apt, dselect, aptitude, synaptic...
[08:15] <Nafallo> K-Rich: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:15] <Madeye> hi, any quick and dirty installation guide for Ubuntu and keeping XP ?
[08:15] <elnovato> nice
[08:15] <K-Rich> bitfoo: that will install gcc and make as well ?
[08:15] <bitfoo> u should probably listen to nafallo since i'm new :|
[08:15] <elnovato> just that iso 600 mb.. is sort non practical, i dont want all crap.. just somethings
[08:16] <bitfoo> no just g++ i think
[08:16] <bitfoo> and its dependencies
[08:16] <t31> please help! someone knows how to recover the upper launch bar?
[08:16] <bitfoo> my fonts are blurry as hell :|
[08:17] <elnovato> t31: lol... you are on winxp?
[08:17] <t31> elnovato: no tio en linux, me cargue la barra de arriba por error :P
[08:17] <K-Rich> t31: open a terminal (right click open terminal) and type 'sudo killall gnome-panel;gnome-panel'
[08:17] <elnovato> ubuntu is based on sid, sarge or potatoe??
[08:18] <t31> elnovato: i screw up the upper launch bar :(
[08:18] <neighborlee> tritium, Issued evolution --force-shutdown and no effect..in gnome I still get ( with top) around 5-7 %cpu  usage where in kde I get 0.3-1.3....sigh any clue how to fix this and why this is occuring ? ;( ( im guessing that gnome 2.8 still isn't quite stable)
[08:18] <K-Rich> Nafallo: thanks
[08:18] <Nafallo> K-Rich: you're welcome
[08:19] <K-Rich> Nafallo: note i need to add autoconf and automake as well though :)
[08:19] <Nafallo> elnovato: sid
[08:19] <t31> k-rich:nothing happens just a message saying there is already one running, and the one on the botton blinks
[08:19] <Nafallo> K-Rich: then I feel sorry for you ;-)
[08:19] <tritium> neighborlee, no, don't know, but I wouldn't agree that gnome 2.8 isn't stable
[08:20] <K-Rich> Nafallo: huh ?
[08:20] <wasabi> Are there any debian packages for beaglt?
[08:20] <wasabi> beagle
[08:20] <K-Rich> make
[08:20] <Nafallo> K-Rich: nm :-). I didn't need them for lot's of stuff yet though :-P.
[08:20] <tritium> neighborlee, evolution --force-shutdown does kill evolution, right?
[08:21] <K-Rich> Nafallo: aren't they needed to use 'make'
[08:21] <tritium> What do you mean that is has no effect?
[08:21] <Nafallo> K-Rich: nope?
[08:21] <t31> K-Rich: if i do nautilus Applications:///Internet for example it shows the folder but just that
[08:21] <Nafallo> K-Rich: if they would have been, then'll be depends :-P
[08:22] <K-Rich> Nafallo: wow, yer right, i removed them and make still works... sweet... thanks for the help, i'll have to remember build-essentials :)
[08:23] <Nafallo> K-Rich: *s* np
[08:23] <t31> please how can i recover the upper launch bar?
[08:25] <HappyFool> t31: if you do "killall -9 gnome-panel" do your panels disappear? Mine disappear then reappear
[08:26] <t31> HappyFool: it happens with the lower one, the problem is that i erased it by mistake
[08:26] <HappyFool> t31: doh!
[08:26] <HappyFool> you still have the lower one?
[08:27] <HappyFool> if you right-click on the lower panel and choose "New Panel", what happens?
[08:28] <AndyR> lo ppl
[08:29] <Stew2_> FTP server question: How do I change the listing mode (UNIX/MSDOS) on the ftp server in Ubuntu. The files names which are long terminate prematurely in .... Where on the windows xp box the full name is displayed.
[08:30] <klaym> what is a good c compiler that can be apt-get with a default hoary source?
[08:30] <dud> which ftp server Stew2_ ?
[08:31] <wezzer-> gcc?
[08:31] <HappyFool> klaym: gcc ?
[08:31] <Stew2_> dud Whichever one comes with Hoary. Thanks dud for asking.
[08:31] <dud> klaym, install build-essential
[08:31] <Nafallo> vsftpd
[08:31] <Sav> Where can i find bcmwl5.inf for ndiswrapper?
[08:31] <dud> install proftpd instead ;)
[08:31] <klaym> yea gcc might do the job :P
[08:33] <LinuxJones> Sav, the manufacturers website
[08:33] <bitfoo> dudes, anyone play ET. if so, how did you enable punkbuster ;|
[08:33] <Stew2_> dud I already got this one setup. Is there a way to change the output of the FTP server for directory listings.
[08:34] <Stew2_> dud I'm afraid of changing things, it otherwise works.
[08:34] <wezzer> bitfoo: It enabled itself automatic on my machine
[08:34] <wezzer> automatically, I mean
[08:35] <dud> i really think that any unix ftp server uses unix type directory listing
[08:35] <dud> i doubt the problem is with vsftpd
[08:35] <bitfoo> yeh it popped up the message saying "you need to enable it" but nothing happened when i clicked
[08:35] <bitfoo> i think i may have to change the permissions?
[08:35] <Stew2_> dud: well then. not much point in changing the unix server from one to another, eh?
[08:35] <Stew2_> dud: I wouldn't call it a 'problem', like major errors. It just doesn't display the file names very well.
[08:38] <o0awskr0o> i cant play any of my mp3's on ubuntu
[08:38] <o0awskr0o> none of them will open
[08:39] <o0awskr0o> anyone know how i can fix this?
[08:39] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: you'll need either xmms or gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:39] <HcE> o0awskr0o: wav plays good? Do you have sound at all?
[08:40] <o0awskr0o> yea i get sound
[08:40] <o0awskr0o> ...
[08:40] <o0awskr0o> i went on the ubuntu site...
[08:40] <o0awskr0o> it says
[08:40] <o0awskr0o> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:40] <tritium> randabis, I just replied to #5853
[08:40] <o0awskr0o> type that in the console?
[08:41] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: what it basically want you to do, in some way or the other, is to install that package :-).
[08:41] <randabis> ok
[08:41] <klaym> g++, c++, gpp, aCC, CC, cc++... <- what are these components of?
[08:41] <o0awskr0o> ... i have no idea how to download.. or where to download things from
[08:41] <melazyboy2> klaym: build-essentials
[08:41] <o0awskr0o> i would prefer xmms
[08:41] <o0awskr0o> ...
[08:41] <klaym> thanks
[08:41] <o0awskr0o> but how do i get it
[08:41] <melazyboy2> o0awskr0o: 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[08:42] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: then use synaptics and install it? :-)
[08:42] <klaym> can build-essentials be loaded via apt-get?
[08:42] <melazyboy2> klaym: yes
[08:42] <o0awskr0o> .. put that in the console????
[08:42] <randabis> that's great, except that's greek to me :p
[08:42] <klaym> not with apt-get install build-essentials?
[08:42] <pjalajas> struggling with ltmodem.  docs say it needs serial_core.  How do I get that? Thanks.
[08:42] <melazyboy2> klaym: Its not plural devs don't understand that concept =/
[08:43] <Nafallo> klaym: s/ls/l/
[08:43] <melazyboy2> klaym: 'build-essential' rather
[08:43] <klaym> ah ok
[08:43] <tritium> randabis, the patch?
[08:43] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: in the console: sudo apt-get install xmms
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> i am such a n00b...
[08:44] <tritium> Well, what you can do is just edit the file, and move ${VER} to be right after openoffice.org, rather than after files.
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> Reading Package Lists... Done
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> is only available from another source
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[08:44] <o0awskr0o> thats what it says****
[08:44] <randabis> hmm
[08:44] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: OR in the console: sudo synaptic
[08:44] <tritium> randabis, after you do that, rerun "apt-get -f install"
[08:45] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: when in synaptic, Settings -> Repositorys and add universe.
[08:45] <melazyboy2> no
[08:45] <melazyboy2> the problem is he never issued 'apt-get update'
[08:45] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: then reload and search xmms.
[08:46] <randabis> tritium the file doesn't even exist on my system
[08:47] <Nafallo> randabis: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:47] <randabis> doesn't help
[08:47] <tritium> randabis, are you sure?  is there a /usr/share/openoffice.org2-debian-files/ directory?
[08:47] <tritium> randabis, after the errors you got, try "dpkg --configure --pending"
[08:48] <tritium> randabis, and then, "apt-get -f install"
[08:48] <o0awskr0o> add universe?
[08:49] <o0awskr0o> which
[08:49] <zenrox> o0awskr0o,  bolth
[08:49] <randabis> this is what's wrong
[08:49] <zenrox> deb and deb-src
[08:49] <randabis> /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org2-debian-files.postinst: line 7: /usr/share/openoffice.org-debian-files2/install-hook: No such file or directory
[08:49] <zenrox> yep my same error
[08:50] <tritium> randabis, you didn't make the change I told you about
[08:50] <o0awskr0o> says packages on this are not supported when i click them
[08:50] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: and that's true. mp3 is unsupported.
[08:51] <o0awskr0o> so what to i do
[08:51] <o0awskr0o> instal gstream?
[08:51] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: that's in universe to :-)
[08:51] <HappyFool> o0awskr0o: "unsupported" doesn't mean it won't work
[08:51] <boxemall> tryed warty warthog live cd but still got no mouse/keyboard support (ps2 devices)
[08:51] <zenrox> right
[08:52] <HappyFool> it means something like "please don't complain if this doesn't work"
[08:52] <tritium> you need to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org2-debian-files.postinst
[08:52] <boxemall> is there another way of getting it to run?
[08:52] <o0awskr0o> so how do i get gstream or xmms ... and how do i get them to play mp3's
[08:53] <HappyFool> o0awskr0o: just install the "unsupported" packages
[08:53] <randabis> tritium didn't help
[08:54] <tritium> randabis, did you "dpkg --configure --pending"?  Did that configure some packages?
[08:54] <Nafallo> o0awskr0o: 1: add universe. 2: update/reload your package lists. 3: install the needed packages.
[08:54] <bitfoo> how do i uninstall a .sh ?
[08:54] <tritium> randabis, and what did "apt-get -f install" do?
[08:54] <Necrosan> I'm having problems with firestarter. It's refusing to work. It keeps saying eth0 isnt setup properly to connect to the net when it is.