[00:01] <rapture> afternoon all. I'm trying to figure out how to create a .deb package of this: http://www.datastax.com/documentation/datastax_enterprise/4.5/datastax_enterprise/install/installSilent.html
[00:01] <rapture> do I install it and then create a .deb of the folder it installed to?
[00:03] <axp882> hi again :)
[00:04] <axp882> theacolyte are you still there?
[00:04] <NaSSiM> hello all
[00:05] <Kamuela> How do I install grub to the hard disk?
[00:05] <Kamuela> From within Ubuntu
[00:07] <BrandonC> k live cd is up
[00:07] <patrick-> hi
[00:08] <patrick-> off topic but is there trance or techno channels in freenode?
[00:08] <NaSSiM> anyone can help me decrypting a file name that i crypted using gpg
[00:08] <NaSSiM> i'm getting this error message : gpg backup.gpg
[00:08] <NaSSiM> gpg: processing message failed: eof
[00:08] <NaSSiM> and i can't decrypt the file
[00:09] <Loshki> BrandonC: ok, ready?
[00:09] <BrandonC> yup
[00:09] <Loshki> BrandonC: let's start by opening a terminal, sudo and apt-get install gparted if it's not already there
[00:10] <Loshki> BrandonC: let me know if I'm going too fast/slow
[00:10] <BrandonC> already newst version
[00:11] <Loshki> BrandonC: ok, start up gparted and lets have a look at your disks. In another window, can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l (that's a lower case ell!)
[00:11] <eeee> NaSSiM: gpg -d <filename> doesn't work?
[00:11] <noidea> patrick-: the only channel I have known of is #inyourbass . I believe there are in france. They usually have good suggestion on new tracks
[00:12] <noidea> they*
[00:12] <patrick-> noidea, ok thanis
[00:12] <patrick-> thanks*
[00:12] <NaSSiM> eeee yes i have the following error : gpg: decrypt_message failed: eof
[00:14] <BrandonC> Loshki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844702/
[00:14] <Loshki> patrick-: actually, I do see #austin (Austin - Technology, Music, and weirdness) but surely other servers offer more...
[00:15] <patrick-> ok
[00:15] <Bashing-om> Kamuela: "simple" re-install from within the actual install -> sudo grub-install /dev/sda <-, for example -  for the 1st hard drive.
[00:15] <BrandonC> gparted up
[00:16] <Loshki> BrandonC: anything in gparted that doesn't agree with fdisk output? If ok, time to fsck /dev/sda1
[00:17] <Loshki> BrandonC: and be sure it does a full check, use fsck -f if you need to.
[00:18] <Loshki> BrandonC: fsck running? I need to take 5...
[00:19] <BrandonC> go ahead
[00:19] <Kamuela> Bashing-om: thank you
[00:19] <BrandonC> ill google how to fsck
[00:21] <Bashing-om> Kamuela: :D ....... corrupted files might require (re-)installing grub from the liveDVD.
[00:24] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Quick way for file system check/repair -> sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 , If errors then ->> sudo e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1 <- .
[00:25] <Jeffrey_f> NaSSiM: Do you have the same private key as you had when you encrypted the file??
[00:26] <msx> hi! do any1 know what's the best way to log-out from the CLI - meaning 'best' for 'cleanest'?
[00:26] <msx> \
[00:26] <somsip> msx: CTRL D
[00:26] <Jeffrey_f> msx: exit usually works for me.
[00:27] <genii> msx: If you have external drives that have been doing transfers, maybe sudo sync first.
[00:27] <msx> somsip: Jeffrey_f hi, I apologize for now explaining myself in a better way, I mean log out from the current session, not the terminal!
[00:27] <BrandonC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844743/ Loshki
[00:28] <msx> genii: hi, yes, that's why I was asking for a clean way and not just a lightdm restart or sudo reboot
[00:29] <genii> msx: The sudo reboot or sudo shutdown -r now will usually do the required stuff needed for clean exit
[00:31] <msx> genii: yes, but at a system-level, that command will force-close any running application, I guess there should be a prettier way to do that sending first a SIGTERM to all running apps so they can quit safely
[00:31] <msx> *that command will _otherwise_
[00:32] <msx> genii: somsip Jeffrey_f: gnome-session-quit --help  <--- i think this will do it
[00:33] <TheKernel-work> is there a recommended ftp server to install onto ubuntu 14.04 with instructions? proftpd seems to have passive issues and vsftpd just will not run...
[00:36] <Ali_M_Ahmed> f
[00:36] <guest-lucas> hi, some menus, launchers, etc. have commands followed by a percent sign and a letter... I can't find what they mean. For example, what's the difference between executing "firefox", and "firefox %u"? Thanks
[00:36] <Ali_M_Ahmed> sorry
[00:45] <Loshki> BrandonC: still there? Your fsck looks fine, which means your hardware is good. Let's sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and look around...
[00:46] <BrandonC> Loshki, k
[00:47] <xtriz> in /usr/share/doc only info related to bug fixing and a packages are stored ?
[00:47] <funnyboy243> What is it like in there?
[00:48] <Loshki> xtriz: pretty much anything that could be called documentation for an application goes in there...
[00:49] <funnyboy243> I think my brain is still partly damaged when Mindy's ass sucked it up because I don't get how that relates to gt.
[00:49] <Loshki> funnyboy243: wrong channel...
[00:49] <funnyboy243> Can you please play with me, ?
[00:50] <BrandonC> Loshki, done
[00:50] <funnyboy243> Do you prefer books or TV?
[00:51] <Loshki> BrandonC: first, lets have a look at /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar. Look for "error" etc.
[00:51] <funnyboy243> Tell me more about your . Can you show me a pic of it?
[00:52] <Loshki> !ops please show funnyboy243 the error of his ways
[00:52] <funnyboy243> Where is that?
[00:53] <IdleOne> funnyboy243: If you're in the mood for chatting please join #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is only for Ubuntu support questions
[00:53] <funnyboy243> I think there might be a few exception. What does "this" refer to?
[00:53] <noidea> What is another way to bring up a second NIC. ifup tells me ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. I know i have done this before, i just had to restart the system and have forgotten
[00:54] <funnyboy243> Would you like to know more? By the way, do you mind if I ask you a personal question? Where? What does "this" refer to?
[00:55] <Vivekananda_y510> hey everyone
[00:55] <Vivekananda_y510> hey everyone. I have a wifi lan and trying to figure out 1. what is my average internal lan speed  2. How much time should it take for 1 gig file to transfer from ubuntu 12.04 on the wifi to me on windows 8.1 on the wifi. Can someone help . The program lan speed test gave me this  : http://imgur.com/AzgRJH6  on windows 8.1 . Now how should I proceed on windows machine ?
[00:56] <funnyboy243> You've got my full attention.  Let us change the subject.
[00:56] <17SAAK7LQ> I need a webcam emulator so I can add it to my android virtual machine
[00:56] <xtriz> Loshki, ok :)
[00:56] <funnyboy243> Why do you need it so badly?
[00:57] <BrandonC> Loshki, so im in mnt var log and dont see anything like that
[00:59] <Vivekananda_y510> I will wait please feel to respond if someone can point me in the right direction.
[00:59] <funnyboy240> Do you think your plan will succeed?
[01:02] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Should be there ! what returns from -> ls -la /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log <- ??
[01:02] <funnyboy240> What were we talking about again? Are you using Netscape or Explorer?
[01:03] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: what's the end goal here? you want to know the speed in MB/sec (megabytes per second) if your wireless adapter?
[01:03] <funnyboy240> What else is the end goal here? Yes, please tell me.
[01:05] <daftykins> funnyboy240: please leave.
[01:05] <funnyboy240> Who is your favorite color for a Torlet?
[01:06] <marya> hi
[01:06] <funnyboy240> Hello there.
[01:09] <daftykins> IdleOne: i believe it's time to escort our friend off the premises, if you could please
[01:09] <daftykins> or at least +q
[01:09] <funnyboy240> Your polite style is very nice. And time to escort our friend off the premises if me could is IdleOne you believe it.
[01:09] <daftykins> bot.
[01:09] <funnyboy240> Nope, but you are.
[01:09] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  thats Xorg.zero.log right?
[01:10] <funnyboy240> I think Bashing om that is a lot of things.
[01:10] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: correct. Xorg.zero.log
[01:10] <funnyboy240> So Andy Rothfusz, what do you like to do for fun when you're bored? Let us change the subject.
[01:11] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, my aim is to know the speed then find out what I get when I transfer a big file ( taking 40 mins for a file of 1.5 gig size) and then see if this is good or if my internal speed is very less than expected
[01:11] <BrandonC> no such fileor direectory
[01:11] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: what wireless standard are your wireless adapters and your access point / router?
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> I am not very sure supposedly an N router
[01:12] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i have teamview set up if you wana remote connect
[01:12] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Unusual ?? .. ok, what about -> ls -la /mnt <- let's see if the mount exists.
[01:12] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: do you have a make and model?
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> is there a way I can figure it out on the machine ? ie ubuntu
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> I guess
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> one sec lemme get that
[01:13] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, list of folder/files
[01:13] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: yeah more than likely there'd be a wireless status command, or looking at network manager's information on the active connection
[01:14] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, then, -> ls -la /mnt/var/log/kern.log <- . see if that log file exists.
[01:15] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, the router is linksys wgr614 v9
[01:15] <17SAAK7LQ> ever since an update I can't rearrange my unity icons, can someone help?
[01:16] <Vivekananda_y510> but how does that help ? I mean from the image output I pasted what do you expect the wifi lan speed to be ?
[01:16] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, no such file
[01:16] <Vivekananda_y510> ie ideally how long should it take for a 2 gig file to be transferred ? http://imgur.com/AzgRJH6 daftykins
[01:17] <Foxhoundz> wpa_supplicant keeps disconnecting with ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]: Device or resource busy
[01:17] <Foxhoundz> this is the command I supplied sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/home/nuc/wpa.conf
[01:17] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: lol, hang on... let's start with the facts. can you also identify your wireless adapters on both these PCs? or is only one wireless?
[01:17] <Foxhoundz> Please help
[01:17] <ObrienDave> Vivekananda_y510, according to your image, you can read it in 1.25 seconds. i dont really believe that for a second (pun intended)
[01:18] <Vivekananda_y510> ObrienDave, the sample file size was 20 mbs or 50 mbs only not 1.5 gigs if that is what you meant
[01:18] <Loshki> Bashing-om: BrandonC: it's not clear if the install completed satisfactorily. But now we know the hardware is good. Frankly, I'd do a from-scratch reinstall using 12.04 and see if that works...
[01:18] <BrandonC> this is from live cd
[01:18] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ok so that router is IEEE 802.11g only, that's 54Mb/sec *including* the MAC layer. the best i've ever seen over wifi from a wired host to a wireless host was ~3MB/sec with WPA2
[01:18] <BrandonC> no install
[01:19] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: that equates to 24Mb/sec (megabits per second)
[01:19] <luke__> whoami
[01:19] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, assuming that speed how long will it take to transfer 2 gig file
[01:19] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: are both your systems wireless?
[01:19] <ObrienDave> Vivekananda_y510, your image says you can write 1,744,659,254 Bytes per second. that i don't believe
[01:20] <Loshki> BrandonC: I thought you'd tried to install 14.04 and it wouldn't come up?
[01:20] <daftykins> i agree with ObrienDave - that program is rubbish
[01:20] <Vivekananda_y510> ObrienDave, ok
[01:20] <BrandonC> Loshki, ya
[01:20] <BrandonC> Loshki> BrandonC: A new cable can't hurt. I'd like a chance to poke around with the live cd if you try again...
[01:21] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, yes both are wireless. The ubuntu 12.04 is a lenovo T61  and the windows 8.1 is a lenovo y510p
[01:21] <ObrienDave> Vivekananda_y510, now, if it's a 10Gbs wired connection, i would believe that number, almost
[01:21] <EsoRotica> My T61 sure wouldn ever pull that fast.
[01:21] <EsoRotica> Not by a long shot.
[01:22] <Vivekananda_y510> ObrienDave, I agree with you that it is too much. I just looked up the program and posted its results assuming it would help in getting to the root of my problem :)
[01:22] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: wireless to wireless with good signal you're not going to see more than 2MB/sec which would make the answer 1024 seconds = 17 minutes
[01:22] <Vivekananda_y510> EsoRotica, I did the speed measure from the windows 8.1 lenovo y510p. the T61 has ubuntu
[01:23] <Loshki> BrandonC: and now we've poked around we know your hardware is working & your disks look fine. I don't know what went wrong with your install attempt. What do you plan to do next?
[01:23] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: what's the 'problem' then?
[01:23] <EsoRotica> Either way, your result shows 1.744625 GBps
[01:23] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, so a 2gig file on an average should take 17 mins correct ? Now the problem is my laptops are taking 40 to 45 mins for the transfer
[01:23] <Vivekananda_y510> I am wondering if this is just a signal issue or is there something I can do to make this transfer faster
[01:23] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: are they in the same room as the router? no walls?
[01:24] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: you really ought to install something that will gauge the speed a lot better than this.
[01:24] <Vivekananda_y510> no router is one wall separated and around 12 metres away
[01:24] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, sure point me to something for ubuntu and I will try right away
[01:24] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: if you installed apache on the windows box, shared a huge file, then used the ubuntu one to wget that file, you'll see realtime stats
[01:25] <daftykins> an FTP server on the windows box would also achieve the same thing
[01:25] <daftykins> or sharing a folder in Windows then accessing it via the ubuntu laptop
[01:25] <daftykins> watching the file copy stats
[01:25] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, i have apache on the windows box but I guess I will have to port forward or something to access it from the linux is it ?
[01:25] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: no because you're both on the same LAN... "wget http://IP of windows box/hugefile.ext"
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Loshki: BrandonC // No harm in trying to (RE-)install ... still with that "Partition outside the disk detected." have not figured that one out yet. What we might do is make a new partition table with GParted, in the install process - DO NOT - check 3rd party software" or "install updates while installing:// old ATI graphics card with no vendor support, and we can update the system after install completes.
[01:26] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, I tried it the other way round ie I shared a folder on samba on ubuntu and then tried copying over on windows and was getting 40 50 mints expected for 1.6 gb file :(
[01:26] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: uh-huh and what speed did windows report? also bear in mind the task manager in Windows has the network utilisation tab
[01:26] <BrandonC> i have gparted up still in live
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, that is what it said ie 50 mins for 1.6 gb file
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> I forget the speed
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> can try again though
[01:27] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: exactly ;) give it another go.
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> okay one sec
[01:27] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ultimately you're coming up against one of the most blatant laws of wireless networking - it's crap.
[01:28] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: cables are lovely.
[01:28] <grobe0ba> that, and SMB throughput is always going to be crap
[01:28] <grobe0ba> it's a crap protocol with a lot of overhead
[01:28] <BrandonC> what should i do in gparted?
[01:28] <daftykins> not true.
[01:28] <Loshki> Bashing-om: BrandonC: "Partition outside the disk detected."? I missed that bit. I agree. Wipe the disk, repartition, and install...
[01:29] <Vivekananda_y510> averaging 700 800 kBps
[01:29] <Loshki> BrandonC: there's nothing of importance on the disk, right?
[01:29] <Vivekananda_y510> 45 mins expected for file 1.5 gigs
[01:29] <BrandonC> correct
[01:29] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: now try again with both laptops in the same room as the router several metres apart
[01:29] <daftykins> so they form a V
[01:29] <daftykins> or more like an L
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> umm that would be tough to do right now but I see your poing
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> can do it later in the night
[01:30] <daftykins> why-so?
[01:30] <BrandonC> i dont know what to do in gparted. i have installed teamviewer if one of you wants to connect remotly
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> people , guests around I am working in my room
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> :) social stuff kind of thing
[01:30] <amineee> Hello I need some help I can't boot any more i get unable to find device error then i drop to easybox shell I am booted live from a cd when i try to mount the hard drive i get error msg so  i assume it's a prob with it what shld  i do i have some inportant files any help please ?
[01:30] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ok so it's a house with shared wireless too? how many devices on the network wirelessly?
[01:31] <genoobie> TJ-, hey
[01:31] <TJ-> genoobie: Ooops :)
[01:31] <daftykins> amineee: what's the error?
[01:31] <Vivekananda_y510> umm currently none active but a total of 4 laptops and 3 phones on it
[01:31] <Vivekananda_y510> including 2 of mine
[01:31] <Vivekananda_y510> laptops
[01:31] <genoobie> I know it was totally an accident
[01:31] <genoobie> didn't have time to fix mistake
[01:31] <amineee> daftykins: Unable to mount 358 GB Filesystem Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:31] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ok, well as long as the other laptops aren't pushing masses of data by e.g. downloading or torrenting or something equally 'noisy' in terms of the wireless
[01:32] <genoobie> TJ-, anyhow the syslog is too long for pastebin
[01:32] <daftykins> amineee: are you typing from this live session right now?
[01:32] <amineee> yep
[01:32] <daftykins> amineee: ok is the live session of 14.04 ubuntu media?
[01:32] <Vivekananda_y510> btw the time to tranfer settled down to 28 minutes and that is not sooo bad. But still I always thought we had come a long way since old days and now the data tranfer on wifi is much closer to the usb 2.0 or something but apparently it is not
[01:32] <TJ-> genoobie: OK... how many lines does it have? "wc -l /var/log/syslog" ?
[01:32] <daftykins> amineee: "cat /etc/issue"
[01:33] <amineee> daftykins: nope it's a 12.04 cd i found
[01:33] <genoobie> TJ-, hang a sec
[01:33] <genoobie> there is something strange
[01:33] <Loshki> BrandonC: I have to go eat dinner :-). Basically, you want to delete all existing partitions and start again, allocate a 10GB partition for /, allocate swap same size as ram, the rest is /home. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[01:33] <genoobie> when I did the iwlist wlan0 freq there are eleven channels
[01:33] <genoobie> but my router has 13
[01:34] <BrandonC> i only have 1 gig of ddr
[01:34] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, my only so called 'problem' was to figure out if there is something in the systems themselves or something in between connecting a windows to a ubuntu that can bottleneck the transfer speed. If so what and how to lessen it
[01:34] <daftykins> amineee: ok that's alright, give me 5 mins then i can assist more, just need to take care of something. although if you can run in the terminal "dmesg | tail" then paste it to paste.ubuntu.com we can see what happened with that mount
[01:34] <genoobie> TJ-, 13219 lines in syslog
[01:34] <Loshki> BrandonC: or just install 12.04 LTS, since it's the most stable all the releases currently out there...
[01:34] <amineee> ok Will do thnx for your time :)
[01:34] <Lost_x> hello guys. even in linux environment (ubuntu) we can not more than 4 partitions in a single physical drive?
[01:34] <BrandonC> Loshki, cant i remove all partitions and let ubuntu cd do it?
[01:35] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: i'm pretty sure you're just up against a rubbish old router trying to do something with 802.11g that it just can't achieve
[01:35] <TJ-> genoobie: That's why I wanted to see the pastebin of the 'iwlist wlan0 freq' output
[01:35] <Lost_x> hello guys. even in linux environment (ubuntu) we can not creaete more than 4 partitions in a single physical drive?
[01:35] <Loshki> BrandonC: ubuntu cd should do it all for you, I just don't trust 14.04 is all....
[01:35] <genoobie> TJ-, I can do that pastebin in a sec\
[01:35] <Lost_x> here's the image http://ibin.co/1UMx7Y0GRHhy
[01:35] <TJ-> genoobie: Let's also see the last 750 lines of syslog. If you have it hooked up on the Ethernet cable you can do "tail -n 750 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[01:36] <awesomess3> Loshki, but you can trust 10.04 because its code name is "Trusty Tahr"
[01:36] <awesomess3> *14.04
[01:36] <TJ-> but you can't trust your fingers :p
[01:36] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, yeah it is an old one but I am trying to figure out the available and the expected speed for that router itself and not for some standard or high performance router
[01:36] <genoobie> TJ-, here's the link for wlan freq
[01:36] <genoobie> http://pastebin.com/fCxpN53Z
[01:36] <TJ-> genoobie: thanks :)
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Yepper, in the 'legacy' - MBR - partitioning scheme ... EFI (UEFI) a whole new ball game.
[01:37] <ly_> 这是中文社区么？
[01:37] <Loshki> awesomess3: it's a dot-oh release. These things never change. History says it won't be bullet proof until around 14.04.4...
[01:37] <spjt> Lost_x: it looks like you can have up to 64k partitions using LVM
[01:37] <genoobie> TJ-, here's the last 750 of syslog
[01:37] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844974/
[01:38] <amineee> daftykins: I got the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844970/ whenever you're free ping me :)
[01:38] <TJ-> genoobie: That's what I'd expect to see for the US region ... 11 x 802.11g 20MHz channels... but from the dmesg output it shows the adapter should also be seeing 40MHz HT channels... if your router is operating in 802.11gn mode with 40 Mhz channels, this could be the cause
[01:38] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: With GParted just make sure that you are messing about with 'sda' .. I would think just choosing the option "new" from the "devices' menu option -> msdos ; should suffice. Then yeah, let the install wizard make up the install.
[01:39] <daftykins> amineee: oh dear, that doesn't look good. what happened prior to this issue? did you do any upgrades or did it just happen when you came to switch your computer on one day?
[01:40] <BrandonC> ya im looking around. its wierd
[01:40] <genoobie> TJ-, no, I think there's another issue
[01:40] <genoobie> I was looking at the syslong
[01:40] <microm> what do I do with this in precise -> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cups_1.5.3-0ubuntu8.4_amd64.deb
[01:40] <TJ-> genoobie: Got it! "rfkill: WLAN hard blocked" ... your hardware radio kill switch is in the "on" position
[01:40] <tracphil> how is iptables getting loaded with rules on 14.04? ufw is disabled.
[01:41] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Take your time .. the help files in GParted will help a lot .. sparse but accurate info.
[01:41] <TJ-> genoobie: Check with: "rfkill list all"
[01:41] <awesomess3> microm, we only support versions: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, and 14.04 LTS
[01:41] <genoobie> but I put the ath5k no_hw_rfkill_switch=1 in the ath5k.conf file
[01:41] <amineee>  @ daftykins : well i experienced some freezes but it's an old machine i am getting a new one in a few days i just want to know if there is any way to get some data out of the drive
[01:42] <daftykins> amineee: ok, lets see if there's something up with the disk to start with then
[01:42] <awesomess3> Loshki, I didn't get the greatest luck with 13.10 either, which is a dot-one release I guess.
[01:42] <genoobie> 1: phy0: Wireless Lan
[01:42] <genoobie> nothing blocked
[01:42] <TJ-> genoobie: I know, but what does "rfkill list all" report? Is the Wifi phy blocked?
[01:42] <daftykins> amineee: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smartmontools" first please
[01:42] <genoobie> nope
[01:42] <TJ-> genoobie: both hard and soft say "no" ?
[01:42] <genoobie> but I may have manually unblocked it by unloading / reloading ath5k driver
[01:43] <daftykins> amineee: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" also, followed by "smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" which should give you a link to paste here
[01:43] <TJ-> genoobie: lets get this issue resolved first, there is no point trying other things until we're sure the RF kill is not enabled
[01:43] <amineee> daftykins: ok will get back to you ASAP
[01:43] <daftykins> good stuff :)
[01:44] <microm> awesomess3: oh, I thought precise pangolin was in the 12.04 LTS series.
[01:44] <genoobie> TJ-, presently both hard and soft say no
[01:44] <TJ-> genoobie: OK... I'm reading to the end of the syslog ... if it was enabled later I should see that
[01:45] <TJ-> genoobie: aha! "<info> WiFi now enabled by radio killswitch"
[01:45] <genoobie> ok
[01:45] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, let me do some more digging here, for more tests you can do
[01:46] <awesomess3> microm, based on the name of the cups package I assumed the release on hand was 8.*
[01:47] <linux> hello
[01:47] <linux> dddd
[01:47] <daftykins> hello.
[01:48] <linux> what are you doing ?
[01:48] <Lost_x> Bashing-om, spjt, i noticed that when i install win7 the system reserved drive it created is also partition...
[01:48] <almostworking> microm: percise is 12.04 LTS for ubuntu....... Mint 17 is based on te 14.4 buntu LTS
[01:48] <Lost_x> Bashing-om, spjt, i'm burning ubuntu 14.04lts 64bit iso... maybe this will resolve
[01:48] <daftykins> linux: i'm about to ask you to ask an ubuntu support question, else please visit #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[01:48] <linux> OK
[01:49] <genoobie> TJ-, lanox seemed to think it may have something to do with Network manager
[01:49] <ses1984> hey, sorry if this is a dumb quesiton: i've generated a pgp key in the passwords and keys program...how do i get out the public key so i can share it?
[01:49] <almostworking> oh man, im in wrong channel,  LOL
[01:49] <microm> almostworking: I use mint 13
[01:49] <TJ-> genoobie: I see no evidence of that, NM has *nothing* to do with running "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[01:49] <patrick-> noidea, i know im off topic again but...
[01:49] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, how's it going?
[01:50] <genoobie> gotcha
[01:50] <patrick-> noidea, is there a dating site thats free ? i got this dating program on my iphone but it charges again money
[01:50] <patrick-> lol
[01:50] <daftykins> patrick-: don't say it then.
[01:50] <daftykins> patrick-: not interested, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[01:50] <almostworking> microm:  i see, far as i know min 13, is based on ubuntu 12   ( i use ubuntu 122 on primary desktop macine(
[01:50] <Lost_x> ObrienDate, burning ubuntu 14.04lts 64bit iso... maybe this will resolve
[01:50] <patrick-> ok
[01:50] <patrick-> sorry
[01:51] <Lost_x> where can we find an irc client in ubuntu?
[01:51] <genoobie> ObrienDave, just installed 14, make sure atheros is not your wireless card
[01:51] <genoobie> :)
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Best I recall, the issue from last night was GPT partitions and no EFI boot partition ?? ( I have slept since then ) . We want to boot up in UEFI mode and install Windows 7 1st, and still in UEFI mode install ubuntu ... correct ?
[01:51] <genoobie> Lost_x, synaptic
[01:51] <genoobie> Lost_x, xhcat is pretty good
[01:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, use tab to auto complete nicks after typing in 3 or 4 characters
[01:51] <amineee> daftykins: while installing the first package smartmontools i left the default configuration .. but when i tried installing the pastebinit it returned an unable to locate package error .. any way i manually paste it  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845020/
[01:51] <Lost_x> do we need to download it or it is included in the OS?
[01:52] <genoobie> probably included
[01:52] <genoobie> synaptic
[01:52] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, yes, that is correct
[01:52] <blueingress> Lost_x, irssi is good enough
[01:52] <daftykins> amineee: ah my apologies, that should be "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[01:52] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you'll like HexChat much better
[01:53] <Lost_x> when ubunto is installed who is the super user/admin?
[01:53] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x :: OK, my head is on now ... here we go ...
[01:53] <amineee> daftykins:  :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845032/
[01:53] <TJ-> genoobie: Can you do "for c in power txpower event modu scan; do sudo iwlist wlan0 $c; done | pastebinit" ?
[01:54] <sargas> can I install linux-headers-3.11.0-19-generic  on Ubuntu 14.04?
[01:54] <daftykins> amineee: yes that disk has failed and is going to get worse
[01:55] <Lost_x> done burning the iso and its now verifying the disc.... i think we are good to go....
[01:55] <daftykins> amineee: you can see from the values on lines 194 and 204 which are what i used to come to this conclusion
[01:55] <genoobie> TJ-, there's also something in dmesg about IPv6 wlan0 is not ready
[01:55] <TJ-> genoobie: entirely expected :)
[01:55] <amineee> daftykins: I see ..  so should i take it to some it gut who can physicly do something and try to get me those data ?
[01:55] <genoobie> and something about can't disable ASPM
[01:56] <daftykins> amineee: we could try to do something to get some data off there, but you'd need another drive to copy that data to... do you have another?
[01:56] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845038/
[01:56] <genoobie> TJ-, that's the output
[01:56] <amineee> daftykins: I have a usb stick will that do ?
[01:56] <daftykins> amineee: it depends on the size of your data really, do you have a lot on there? Pictures/Music/etc?
[01:57] <genoobie> TJ-, why does it say  "current mode: off"
[01:57] <amineee> daftykins:  nah just some work files .. it will fit in it
[01:57] <TJ-> genoobie: because the interface isn't in use
[01:58] <daftykins> amineee: could you also pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please?
[01:58] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, that all looks as expected
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: OK, ! Ya did boot up the operating system in "UEFI" mode and (RE-)installed Windows & ... right ? so now we will install ubuntu 14.04 ... correct ?
[01:59] <TJ-> genoobie: (except that there are no scan results). ASPM is PCIe Advanced State Power Management.
[01:59] <genoobie> TJ-, I have a question
[01:59] <amineee> daftykins: -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845044/
[01:59] <TJ-> genoobie: fire away?
[01:59] <sargas> can I install linux-headers-3.11.0-19-generic  on Ubuntu 14.04?
[01:59] <genoobie> I did a modprobe -rvf ath5k and it took out cfg80211, mac80211, ath, ath5k
[01:59] <sargas> can I install 3.11.0-19-generic kernel  on Ubuntu 14.04?
[02:00] <genoobie> when I did modprobe -v ath5k listed also was ath
[02:00] <genoobie> is it possible that it's using ath and ath5k
[02:00] <genoobie> if so is that a problem?
[02:01] <genoobie> oh nm, I think ath5k depends on ath
[02:01] <TJ-> genoobie: ath5k depends on all those other modules
[02:01] <genoobie> TJ-, this is baffling
[02:01] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i think i had Lost_x turn off fast boot mode
[02:01] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: its already in uefi mode
[02:02] <eligrey> can anyone suggest an ubuntu-compatible 2x2 802.11ac usb adapter?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave Let's boot to the installer then, see what ubiguity now sees for install options ! -- looking for - install along side !
[02:03] <ObrienDave> eligrey, anyone but broadcom
[02:03] <daftykins> amineee: ok, if you know a Linux expert that can help you'd probably be better off popping by them - but if the data isn't *deadly important* then you can give it a try repairing the disk enough to mount it again. if so, try running "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1"
[02:03] <TJ-> genoobie: Can you do "sudo apt-get install fwts" and then "cd $HOME && sudo fwts aspm && pastebinit result.log"
[02:03] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, that is the option we could NOT find last night
[02:03] <genoobie> TJ-, what do you think of this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2160177 about midway through the page there's a suggestion of uninstalling / reinstalling firmware
[02:03] <eligrey> ObrienDave: any you would suggest specifically?
[02:03] <ObrienDave> eligrey, sorry, no. mine is built in
[02:04] <eligrey> ok
[02:04] <ObrienDave> eligrey, oh, and NO Belkins
[02:04] <genoobie> actually it's toward the bottom of the page
[02:04] <amineee> daftykins:  i think i'll take my chances :D is there a 10% success chance ?
[02:04] <eligrey> gotcha
[02:04] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: do we need to turn on the fast mode or just leave it disabled?
[02:04] <genoobie> TJ-, do you still want me to do those commands
[02:05] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes please
[02:05] <genoobie> okay
[02:05] <genoobie> on it
[02:05] <ObrienDave> i would like to try with fast boot off. Bashing-om, what do you think?
[02:05] <TJ-> genoobie: If there was missing firmware the kernel log (dmesg, syslog) would tell us
[02:05] <daftykins> amineee: i really couldn't say, so proceed with caution as if you don't care about never seeing the files again ;)
[02:05] <genoobie> TJ-, what is fwts?
[02:06] <Bashing-om> Okaria: Lost_x Agreed, we want fast boot turned off ( Seems that is a hibernation mode for Windows, and realy messes up booting ubuntu !).
[02:06]  * fsdfs OUT!
[02:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, let's give it a go!
[02:07] <TJ-> genoobie: firmware test suite
[02:07] <mkrz> hello #ubuntu. I get 'low disk space in filesystem root' warning all the time. what do?
[02:07] <TJ-> genoobie: allows us to check out the motherboard's ASPM support
[02:07] <genoobie> okay
[02:07] <amineee> daftykins: that didn't take long .. should i pastebin the output ?
[02:07] <daftykins> amineee: sure
[02:07] <rasel> hellow...
[02:07] <TJ-> genoobie: Also, whilst we're at it "sudo lspci -nnvvvk | pastebinit" :)
[02:08] <amineee> daftykins: ah my mistake it's still runnning  .. ''Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure ''
[02:08] <genoobie> TJ-, you got it
[02:08] <Lost_x> ok,,, reinstalling win7. we are back to 0
[02:08] <rasel> anyone know bengali??
[02:08] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, cool, give us a holler when done
[02:08] <genoobie> TJ-, here is the lspci output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845065/
[02:09] <mkrz> yes i know bengali
[02:09] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back in 20 minutes or so
[02:09] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: How ya doing ? .. found the means to remake the partition table in GParted ?
[02:09] <mkrz> how do i increase diskspace on root file system?
[02:10] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Not al all, look at all we have learned ... kept us out of jail !
[02:10] <genii> mkrz: You can reduce the amount of space allocated to superuser with tune2fs
[02:10] <xangua> mkrz: backup and increase it from a live session
[02:11] <amineee> daftykins: on another topic .. I have a usb stick with deleted(i think even formated) files any recommended recovery tool ?
[02:11] <genoobie> that fwts is a pretty extensive pkg
[02:11] <xangua>  !recover
[02:11] <advx_> Hello All, Good Morning, Have a great day....
[02:12] <daftykins> amineee: do you know what file system it had?
[02:12] <TJ-> genoobie: I've just confirmed on the ath5k driver dev's site: "This driver requires no firmware or binary-only HAL!"
[02:12] <mkrz> genii,xangua: thanks. i'll check them out.
[02:12] <advx_> Help: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain?? keeps coming in log every ~4-10 seconds.....??
[02:12] <genoobie> well there you have it then
[02:13] <amineee> daftykins: it has fat i think the one windows use
[02:13] <advx_> already set country to mine country code...
[02:13] <genoobie> I mean if I had an old laptop kicking around I'd grab the mini-pci and trash this one
[02:13] <amineee> thnx xangua :)
[02:13] <daftykins> amineee: hrmm did it get a quick format or a full format?
[02:14] <amineee> quick
[02:14] <daftykins> that's lucky then
[02:14] <mkrz> xangua: the automatic backup with suffice? and what's a live session. do i have to select something while boot-up?
[02:14] <mkrz> will*
[02:14] <daftykins> amineee: i know windows utilities but i've not done it with Linux, perhaps testdisk is worth a go - i wouldn't do it at the same time as your current task though :D
[02:14] <daftykins> mkrz: live = booting from ubuntu USB/DVD
[02:15] <genoobie> TJ-, the sudo fwts aspm command did not return a url
[02:15] <mkrz> daftykins: aah ok
[02:15] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: Bashing-om: are we installing ubuntu alongisde windows? or may be can install windows in "something else"?
[02:15] <genoobie> cd $HOME && sudo fwts aspm && pastebinit result.log
[02:15] <genoobie> 2 passed, 4 warnings
[02:16] <amineee> daftykins:  I'll have to wait then :D what are the names of these utilities please ?
[02:16] <TJ-> genoobie: did you pipe it to pastebinit ?
[02:16] <daftykins> amineee: windows ones?
[02:16] <amineee> daftykins:  yes please
[02:16] <genoobie> what is the way to pastebinit?
[02:17] <daftykins> amineee: "getdataback for FAT" is one i've had success with
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Like this, we "can" install 'something else', but we do want the advanced partitioning scheme and the ease of installation for ubuntu from " install along side" option.
[02:17] <TJ-> genoobie: ignore me, I'm getting confused :) "fwts aspm" should have created the file "result.txt" in the current directory, which pastebinit should send... maybe that file wasn't created where I expected
[02:17] <amineee> daftykins:  ok i'll give it a try .. the repairing finished .. /dev/sda1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/sda1: 318736/21848064 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 7085123/87385856 blocks
[02:17] <genoobie> TJ-, result(s).log
[02:18] <TJ-> genoobie: "pastebinit results.log"  - I missed off the 's' :)
[02:18] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845094/
[02:18] <genoobie> :)
[02:18] <TJ-> genoobie: you can tell its gone 3am !
[02:18] <amineee> daftykins:  those are the last two lines of the output ..
[02:18] <genoobie> There's not much here either only 2 hours of sleep
[02:19] <genoobie> nothing stands out there either
[02:19] <daftykins> amineee: "sudo mkdir /mnt/drive && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt/drive"
[02:19] <Lost_x> Bashing-om:  ok. installing win7 now...
[02:20] <TJ-> genoobie: nothing out of place in the fwts results
[02:20] <amineee> daftykins:  didn't give back an error msg .. good news i hope ?
[02:20] <laughingtiger> linux is an angel, thus windows is the demon.
[02:21] <daftykins> amineee: indeed! "ls /mnt/drive"
[02:21] <daftykins> amineee: "ls /mnt/drive/home/<your username here>/"
[02:21] <amineee> daftykins:  yeah i am browsing the files :D THANK YOU :D
[02:21] <daftykins> no problem :)
[02:22] <laughingtiger> Windows corrupts people
[02:22] <amineee> is ther ea way to give you a star or sth ! :p
[02:22] <genoobie> TJ-, my work laptop has a wireless card...
[02:22] <genoobie> nah nevermind
[02:22] <genoobie> TJ-, what about madwifi?
[02:22] <daftykins> amineee: haha, nope - i get by on the good feeling of assistance and success alone \o/
[02:22] <TJ-> genoobie: I was about to ask, do you have another PC that *can* connect to the Access Point, that we could use to compare wifi results
[02:23] <daftykins> amineee: just make sure you get that data off there and consider that drive completely toast, it's only fit for giving away to electronics recycling now
[02:23] <genoobie> TJ-, yes
[02:23] <genoobie> running the same OS
[02:23] <genoobie> different card
[02:23] <TJ-> genoobie: That'd be fab! I want to see what that reports for "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[02:23] <genoobie> okay hold a sec
[02:24] <genoobie> TJ-, what was the apt-get install pastebinit?
[02:24] <amineee> daftykins: Thank you again .. will give it away tmrw ..  Any recommandations for my new laptop :p
[02:24] <genoobie> same OS, same version
[02:24] <daftykins> amineee: do you want to wipe that drive at all so nobody can get the data when you give it away?
[02:25] <genoobie> both HP machines
[02:25] <genoobie> one has a broadcom, the other atheros
[02:25] <amineee> daftykins: yeah of course .. didn't think of that
[02:25] <TJ-> genoobie: you got it correct first time 'pastebinit' is the package
[02:26] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, its taking long tome to delete partition
[02:27] <daftykins> amineee: so you could zero fill it which would be easy, but only once you're ready of course! "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M" this will take quite a while, you'll see the disk light stay on permanently until it's done
[02:27] <genoobie> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845148/
[02:28] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Something is "wrong" ! .. should only take a few seconds ... It is hard to imigine what to suggest at this point, wait and see what happens ( ??? ).
[02:29] <amineee> daftykins: Roger .. Thanks Again ! .. I still have a lot to learn :/ ..
[02:29] <morpheus_gr> amineee, you can send kill sighup to monitor dd progress
[02:29] <morpheus_gr> kill -usr1
[02:29] <TJ-> genoobie: which SSID is yours? both?
[02:30] <genoobie> TJ-, Memet
[02:30] <amineee> morpheus_gr: how to do that please ?
[02:30] <snadge> has anyone else noticed an issue with intel chipset.. that when going full screen in youtube.. it doesnt actually scale to the full screen?
[02:30] <snadge> im just wondering if thats flash.. driver.. or hardware related
[02:30] <morpheus_gr> ps -ef |grep dd  get the pid and then kill -USR1 pid from another console amineee
[02:31] <daftykins> morpheus_gr: :) would've shared that if i weren't feeling so lazy
[02:31] <amineee> @ ok i think i get it ..
[02:32] <linux_farsight> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:32] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, you wana connect via tiemviewer and take a look? i cant even click on details
[02:32] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, that helps me alot, I now can predict what the Atheros should report/see/do
[02:32] <morpheus_gr> lol daftykins
[02:32] <linux_farsight> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[02:32] <linux> pppppppppppppppp
[02:32] <aneks> is the 14.04.1 update supposed to happen today?
[02:32] <TJ-> genoobie: I'd like to go back to the obvious issue - that despite what we see, RF Kill has the radio turned off - that explains the failure to scan
[02:32] <snadge> http://askubuntu.com/questions/36820/how-to-make-youtube-fullscreen-actually-fullscreen  .. never mind, its an FAQ.. one of these days i'll ask a question that someone actually answers ;)
[02:33] <genoobie> TJ-, any way to disable the whole rfkill driver and recognition thin
[02:33] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Sorry no teamviewer installed .. sweat not, we will muddle through this .. get's too deep TJ_ will bail us out !
[02:33] <genoobie> just fool linux into believing that there is no rf kill switch?
[02:33] <daftykins> snadge: HTML5 - ooh yes not using flash at all seems a great idea to me :)
[02:33] <BrandonC> start heaving the buckets
[02:33] <genoobie> TJ-, let me reboot and re-do that tail command
[02:34] <genoobie> brb
[02:34] <OerHeks> aneks, yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[02:35] <TJ-> Bashing-om: did someone mention my name?
[02:36] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, how goes the install?
[02:36] <aneks> OerHeks: that's what I was going by, just not sure what time zone that's based by? I'm in Australia
[02:36] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Kinda, in a round about kind of way .. ( sure glad you are in the channel ).
[02:37] <OerHeks> aneks, nope, just wait and see
[02:37] <genoobie> TJ-, I'm back...
[02:38] <TJ-> genoobie: OK ... where are you at with it right now? Were you testing something?
[02:38] <genoobie> TJ-, this is the last 750 lines of syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845185/
[02:38] <TJ-> Bashing-om: for BrandonC?
[02:38] <Lost_x> done, restarting.....
[02:38] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Id GParted still thrashing about ?
[02:38] <genoobie> yes, I had temporarily commented out the ath5k options line
[02:38] <Bashing-om> is/id*
[02:38] <genoobie> this last boot was with that line included
[02:39] <genoobie> still no wireless
[02:39] <BrandonC> ya cant cancel it
[02:39] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: we will use the 64bit copy of the ubuntu 14.04lts
[02:39] <genoobie> still no wireless but nothing is blocked
[02:39] <TJ-> genoobie: the good news is, wpa_supplicant (controlled by Network Manager) is trying to scan but like us manually not seeing any results
[02:39] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, good. how's Win7 install going?
[02:40] <TJ-> genoobie: is the ath5k option "no_hw_rfkill_switch=1" still set?
[02:40] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: completing the window setup....
[02:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, cool, please test install before attempting Ubuntu
[02:41] <genoobie> TJ-, yes and nowhcrypt=1
[02:41] <TJ-> genoobie: I'd like you to do a test reboot with that removed... and as the system is starting (before Linux gets going if you can) try enabling/disabling the hardware RF Kill switch and if there is an LED associated with that, see if it goes on/off whatever... We want the LED 'on' (if there is one) :)
[02:42] <TJ-> genoobie: so "no_hw_rfkill_switch=0" or remove it :)
[02:42] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: window is now restarting ...
[02:42] <mojtaba> Hi, I have migrated recently to Ubuntu. Do you know how can I import my .pst files from outlook to thunderbird?
[02:43] <genoobie> TJ-, the switch isn't responsive I've noticed
[02:43] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done....
[02:43] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, great, make sure Win7 boots properly
[02:43] <genoobie> TJ-, the switch is mostly "blue"
[02:43] <BrandonC> how do i make this stip?
[02:43] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: A thought, when you fired up GParted was there a key icon alongside the partitons for extended and/or swap ? such that the operating system has a lock on the hard drive ? -- what results with key combo ctl+c, to try and get out of GParted ?
[02:43] <BrandonC> stop?
[02:43] <genoobie> every now and then it flashes orange
[02:43] <genoobie> randomly
[02:43] <BrandonC> no
[02:43] <genoobie> TJ-, when I modprobe it also flashes orange
[02:44] <BrandonC> cntrl c nothing
[02:44] <genoobie> TJ-, so I will comment out that line and modprobe -r ath5k modprobe ath5k, or reboot?
[02:44] <TJ-> genoobie: Does it continue flashing then... pulsing every so often?
[02:44] <genoobie> TJ-, what I am I looking to do in the reboot?
[02:44] <genoobie> yes
[02:44] <genoobie> no
[02:44] <genoobie> well, it's mostly a steady blue
[02:44] <genoobie> every now and then a rare flash
[02:45] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Do not see what harm it can be at this stage to "hard" power off the system .. when all else fails, there is alway 'dd' to wipe that hard drive and begin anew .....
[02:45] <TJ-> genoobie: change the setting to =0 so when it loads it doesn't mess with the rfkill... when the system is booting try toggling the hardware RF kill switch a few times to learn what if anything, it might do differently than it is doing now
[02:45] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: i restarted twice and it doing fine...
[02:45] <TJ-> genoobie: That constant blue would be interpreted as 'on' and the flash a 'scan' I'd have thought
[02:45] <codezomb> is anyone aware of a way to have apt use only a small list of specific mirrors? I would like to provide a list of ec2 mirrors, and have ubuntu use the closest one depending on the current region. This is on 14.04.
[02:46] <awesomess3> mojtaba, you may want to look into pst-utils & readpst packages
[02:46] <genoobie> when I'm not typing anything
[02:46] <genoobie> it seems to be a stead blue
[02:46] <mojtaba> awesomess3: Is it a command?
[02:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, good, now, boot the Ubuntu DVD and let me know when you get to the where to install screen
[02:46] <genoobie> but like I said, it seems kind of randome
[02:46] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok
[02:46] <genoobie> so I will comment out that line, reboot and push the switch a few time
[02:46] <TJ-> genoobie: This is almost as if the antenna has become disconnected... what make/model is the laptop and, do you know if the Atheros card is in an easily accessible bay on the underside... at this stage it is very worth checking the antenna leads haven't become dislodged
[02:47] <noidea> patrick-: sorry i can not help you with that one
[02:47] <genoobie> TJ-, already checked it
[02:47] <TJ-> genoobie: Woooo! nice one :)
[02:47] <patrick-> noidea, heh ok
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: OK, and the ubuntu liveDVD passes " check disk for defects " -> we ready to proceed ??
[02:47] <TJ-> genoobie: how many antennas is the adapter connected to, 2?
[02:47] <genoobie> so TJ- by hitting that switch, there will be a log generated, that's what you are after?
[02:48] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ^^^ check disk for defects, thanks Bashing-om
[02:48] <genoobie> TJ-, yes, two antenna
[02:48] <awesomess3> mojtaba, those packages provide commands to use to convert pst to a thunderbird compatible format (mbox or whatever)
[02:48] <patrick-> noidea, have you seen zoosk though?
[02:48] <mojtaba> awesomess3: thanks
[02:48] <genoobie> I can double check to make sure they are connected correctly...
[02:48] <TJ-> BrandonB: Bashing-om: If gparted seems to be taking a while... have you used a terminal to check /var/log/kern.log for disk I/O errors?
[02:48] <awesomess3> mojtaba, sudo apt-get install pst-utils readpst
[02:48] <genoobie> it's also possible the card is fried?
[02:48] <genoobie> but it was working a few days ago with winxp
[02:49] <awesomess3> mojtaba, dpkg -L pst-utils #give the commands that are available in that installed package.
[02:49] <noidea> patrick-: I know nothing about it.
[02:49] <genoobie> so that's not likely, let me comment out and reboot
[02:49] <genoobie> brb
[02:49] <patrick-> ok
[02:49] <Bashing-om> TJ-: No I had not thought so ... BrandonC ^^^ !
[02:49] <genoobie> just putting a # in front is ok for now, right?
[02:50] <TJ-> genoobie: it is worth checking the antennas yes... and look very closely at the antenna coaxial leads for signs of pinches, damage, anything... I'd say with everything else you've observed the card would show other signs of malfunction if it were fried... but if you have another of the same type of card you could swap in, as a simple test, that would also prove the antennas are good (or not)
[02:50] <daftykins> mojtaba: you can also use Outlook on Windows to convert PSTs to other formats that Thunderbird could import.
[02:50] <genoobie> TJ-, oh, I can do that...
[02:50] <genoobie> let me double check that
[02:50] <genoobie> should I do the test first?
[02:50] <TJ-> genoobie: At this stage I think we have to prove that card works...its worth trying it in another laptop, too
[02:50] <BrandonC> so boot back into live?
[02:50] <genoobie> okay
[02:51] <patrick-> noidea, ok here is a question
[02:51] <genoobie> bbiafm
[02:51] <TJ-> genoobie: Up to you... I don't think the reboot watch-the-LEDs will be terrribly fruitful though... clutching at straw morelike :)
[02:51] <genoobie> okay, so I have a broadcom card
[02:51] <genoobie> in my other hp laptop
[02:51] <patrick-> noidea, my friend has a site on networksolutions and..it appears that his web server has a malware or riskware?
[02:51] <genoobie> I can take that one out and put it in this compaq
[02:51] <patrick-> i heard that linux or unix servers can also get malware or riskware true?
[02:51] <genoobie> that will take a few min.
[02:51] <TJ-> genoobie: maybe swap them over? that'd prove the antennas and the cards
[02:52] <patrick-> his site is getting all ads inside his main page get it?
[02:52] <TJ-> genoobie: that's fine...  Install Ubunto 3. oem install for manufacturer and 4. check kdisc for defects
[02:52] <OerHeks> patrick-, depends on the dns service, free dns service add free adds
[02:53] <patrick-> noidea, and i found the program malware bytes , which says it has a linux version also or nod32
[02:53] <patrick-> eset nod32
[02:53] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, #4 for now
[02:54] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yeah, only way we going to get this done is from the liveDVD .. make sure in upper right corner that 'sda' is the working with drive, no key icons visable in the work pane, Best of my poor memory .. in the task bar select device -> new -> msdos -> apply from the actions drop down ( task bar) ..see what results.
[02:54] <sydney> When will ubuntu 14.04 be upgraded to 14.04.1?
[02:54] <ObrienDave> sydney, do a dist-upgrade, it should install
[02:55] <Bashing-om> sydney: Lat I was aware 14.04.1 is due out July 24 .
[02:55] <sydney> Tommorow,cool!!
[02:55] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I'm following along with a tail on the log as long as there's "BrandonC" in the output
[02:55] <sydney> And the ISO's will be updated too?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Thanks .. takes a load off ..  I want upgrade 12.04 desktop to 14, first i did update+upgrade he upgraded 149 packets (it was long time since last upgrde) do i need reboot PC or i can do dist-upgrade without reboot? (yes i know dist-upgrade can bring tons of problems)
[03:03] <mojtaba> daftykins: It is 2012
[03:03] <mojtaba> daftykins: or 2010
[03:03] <daftykins> there is no such office as 2012
[03:03] <Jeffrey_f> question on rsyslog: If I install onto a desktop and set up my laptop to report to the desktop, how would the laptop behave when it is off premises and unable to contact the syslog server??
[03:03] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yes, it is 2010
[03:04] <daftykins> mojtaba: ok, you're welcome to go and explore the options, this is not MS Outlook help i'm afraid :)
[03:04] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Fier up GParted, sda selected from the upper right, no key icons in the wirk pane !
[03:04] <daftykins> mojtaba: also a tip, delete your junk email and deleted items in Outlook - then compress your PSTs before attempting to do anything with them
[03:04] <Bashing-om> wirk/work*
[03:04] <grobe0ba> tiblock, it never hurts to reboot. also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades
[03:05] <mojtaba> daftykins: ok, thanks
[03:05] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let's go for #1 try without installing
[03:05] <tiblock> grobe0ba, thank you
[03:05] <grobe0ba> don't just do a dist-upgrade. use do-release-upgrade
[03:05] <genoobie> TJ-, hey
[03:05] <genoobie> unsupported hardward, please remove
[03:05] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i have /dev/sda
[03:05] <grobe0ba> tiblock, seriously, don't just use dist-upgrade. do-release-upgrade should eventually get you where you need to be, but in a safer manner
[03:05] <genoobie> TJ-, i am going to try that atheros card in the laptop that works
[03:06] <genoobie> bbiam
[03:06] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: From the task bar what is in the drop down from the 'devices' tab ?
[03:06] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  i have unallocated, /dev/sda2 with key, and /dev/sda5 with key
[03:07] <BrandonC> create partition table, attempt data rescue
[03:07] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Right click on the swap partition, and choose "swap off " .
[03:07] <tiblock> grobe0ba, do-release-upgrade  will upgrade to 12.10 first?
[03:07] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, done
[03:07] <grobe0ba> tiblock, not sure. i think it'll take you straight to the latest
[03:08] <grobe0ba> but i could be wrong
[03:08] <grobe0ba> even if it does, it's safer to do it in steps
[03:08] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Now what from the devices tab drop down ?
[03:08] <grobe0ba> instead of one giant leap
[03:08] <grobe0ba> never dist-upgrade
[03:08] <g146m026> is check disk space wake up hdd ? i want to add disk space in my conky script but dont want to wake up hdd all the time
[03:08] <ObrienDave> E: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade
[03:08] <grobe0ba> i've lost more debian based systems to dist-upgrade than anything else
[03:08] <tiblock> grobe0ba, your URL says about 12.04->12.10 do i need first upgrade to 12.10?
[03:08] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, same
[03:08] <grobe0ba> ObrienDave, it's not an apt command
[03:08] <grobe0ba> tiblock, i know, read what i just said
[03:08] <grobe0ba> like all 5 lines of it
[03:09] <grobe0ba> ObrienDave, try reading the url i posted
[03:09] <daftykins> grobe0ba: dist-upgrade doesn't do what you seem to think it does :)
[03:09] <grobe0ba> daftykins, yes it does
[03:09] <grobe0ba> it breaks things when you make giant version leaps
[03:09] <grobe0ba> i am well aware of what it does
[03:09] <grobe0ba> what it's intended to do
[03:09] <daftykins> it sounded like you were claiming it upgrades version
[03:09] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: same ? .. sda5 is the swap, should, I expect, be able to right click and "swap off" .
[03:09] <grobe0ba> and what actually tends to happen when you skip 5 releases
[03:10] <grobe0ba> daftykins, not unless you change the repos to reflect it
[03:10] <grobe0ba> i'm going to sleep before i yell at someone
[03:10] <daftykins> yeah so in and of itself it's not actually a problem
[03:10] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, did that before
[03:10] <daftykins> grobe0ba: calm down there! :)
[03:10] <BrandonC> i only have unallocated, extended, and linux-swap
[03:10] <grobe0ba> like i said, i'm going the fuck to sleep
[03:11] <Jeffrey_f> question on rsyslog: If I install onto a desktop and set up my laptop to report to the desktop, how would the laptop behave when it is off premises and unable to contact the syslog server??
[03:11] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, so now we want a new partition table .. from the task bar best I recall is 'devices' click on devices -> new ? yes ???
[03:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im in
[03:12] <legend> hi
[03:12] <tiblock> grobe0ba, thank you, but i still dont understand what your URL means. Should i first google how to 12.04->12.10 and only then do-release-upgrade?
[03:12] <grobe0ba> yelling generally entails capslock
[03:12] <grobe0ba> i merely spoke.
[03:12] <BrandonC> under partition in menue is new, delte resize/move, copy, format to..
[03:12] <grobe0ba> tiblock, speak to someone who likes ubuntu
[03:12] <BrandonC> but new is greyed out
[03:12] <grobe0ba> i use freebsd for a reason
[03:12] <grobe0ba> deuces all
[03:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, cool, now go for the install icon
[03:12] <tiblock> lel
[03:12] <TJ-> BrandonC: Bashing-om Now would be a good time to open a terminal and run a tail on kern.log ... "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and keep an eye on it for any hint of I/O errors whilst gparted is working
[03:12] <BrandonC> oh if i select unallocated i can do partition ->new
[03:12] <daftykins> tiblock: what version are you on and what are you trying to do?
[03:13] <tiblock> daftykins, im on 12.04 desktop and i want 14
[03:13] <daftykins> tiblock: ok, wait for 14.04.1's release then you can upgrade direct. you'll be offered it via software update / update manager
[03:14] <tiblock> daftykins, oh, its still not released? Okay then, thank you
[03:14] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Let's us do as TJ- advises and get a running readout of what is going on .. // Now .. is the entire hard drive "unallocated space " ??.
[03:14] <daftykins> tiblock: seems it's supposed to be around today, but no idea what timezone :)
[03:15] <tiblock> daftykins, okay, thank you
[03:15] <daftykins> no problem
[03:17] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im in the installation type. the options are "erase disc and install ubuntu and something else
[03:17] <ObrienDave> damn
[03:18] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, Lost_x has no "alongside" option again
[03:18] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave yeah,, so I sen I seen ... Now thgat do not make sense .. that option "should" now be there ! ..think'n !
[03:19] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: installed win7 in the whole drive. no partitions created.
[03:19] <noidea> patrick-: if you know it is malware then i would asume it would work
[03:20] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you should have the same 2 you had last night, the 100MB recovery partition and the remaining drive
[03:21] <cappicard> good evening. how do I disable usb tethering when I plug in my iphone 5s into 14.04?
[03:21] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: yes
[03:21] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let's go for "something else" and see what you have for partitions
[03:21] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: That is correct .. in the ubuntu install, ubuntu's installer would take care of setting up it's own partitions ... maybe, is windows taking up the 4 primary partitions now ? -> liveDVD -> fdisk -lu < - .. what does that tell us ?
[03:21] <aminee> !log
[03:21] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: i notice the "install alongside windows" option appears when there's a partitions found.
[03:22] <BrandonC> sigh i think something froze
[03:22] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Is the tail on the log file running ?
[03:23] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, have you tried "something else" yet?
[03:24] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i cant even move mouse
[03:24] <Lost_x> ObrienDave:  uploading image
[03:24] <ObrienDave> cool
[03:24] <mnathani> how would I create a software RAID from 3x3tb drives to make a 9tb volume?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Kinda lost me there ... "option appears when there's a partitions found" .. I would expect it to be as soon as the installer fires up.
[03:25] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, agreeing with Bashing-om you should have that option
[03:25] <Lost_x> ObrienDave:  last time i successfully installed ubuntu, got grub problem when booting to win7
[03:26] <Lost_x> here's the image http://ibin.co/1UNUev4vMg7a
[03:27] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, probably because of the UEFI mobo
[03:27] <patrick-> noidea, and i found the program malware bytes , which says it has a linux version also or nod32
[03:27] <inanepenguin> Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask but I ran into an issue after installing 14.04 on my machine… Downloaded 14.04, made an install usb drive, partitioned my SSD and installed. Now when I boot to my windows partition, none of my usb devices are recognized/give input. my mouse, keyboard, etc, are all useles....
[03:27] <patrick-> eset nod32
[03:27] <patrick-> i heard that linux or unix servers can also get malware or riskware true?
[03:27] <patrick-> noidea, my friend has a site on networksolutions and..it appears that his web server has a malware or riskware?
[03:28] <patrick-> im asking this again since i didnt get a reply earlier
[03:28] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: If froze up .. let's try and back out .. key combo ( twisted fingers) ctl+alt r s e i r b ---- slowly .. see if the system reboots .. now we need to verify that liveDVD. when it reboots, shift key soon as bios screen clears -> language screen, escape key to accept default -> boot options screen -> " check disk for defects" .
[03:28] <patrick-> anyone?
[03:28] <noidea> patrick-: yes true, if you know it is malware using malwarebytes may be a good solution
[03:29] <inanepenguin> Has anyone seen an issue like this? Where devices stop working on Win7 after installing ubuntu….
[03:29] <patrick-> im askng can linux servers also get mallware or riskware?
[03:29] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, shift worked. language
[03:29] <noidea> patrick-: yes
[03:29] <patrick-> ok
[03:30] <patrick-> so his webhosts admin is stupid
[03:30] <patrick-> noidea, cause the sys admin hasnt fixed it yet
[03:30] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, test diskc for defects?
[03:30] <patrick-> and its networksolutions
[03:30] <patrick-> a popular site right?
[03:30] <noidea> patrick-: if problem could also be more complicated that a piece of malware
[03:31] <patrick-> oh
[03:31] <gartral> anyone here running with a Gobi-2000 3g modem? I really need some help here..
[03:31] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, you up to doing this manually?
[03:31] <Jeffrey_f> patrick-: The short answer is YES.  The long answer is:  You would REALLY need to put forth a pretty good amount of effort to get malware or virii into a linux install.  Also, IF you succeeded in doing  so, the only likely victim would be your home folder as your own user ID usually has no access to any other part of the system
[03:31] <patrick-> here is what happened my laptop had malware and i heard this riskware can go to another machine
[03:31] <patrick-> and thats what hapepned
[03:31] <patrick-> cause i know his site and after i got malware hs site messed up like that
[03:31] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yeah, run that option .. let's insure that the liveDVD is good !
[03:31] <patrick-> so....
[03:32] <noidea> patrick-: and how is this known?
[03:32] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, coffee, brb
[03:32] <linux_farsight> hello
[03:33] <Jeffrey_f> patrick-: Also, downloading packages from OTHER THAN the repositories can put harmful software onto your machine and depending on the questions asked of the software on install, if you gave the software the sudo/root password, then you stand the chance of a system wide "infection"
[03:33] <patrick-> yeah
[03:34] <patrick-> its actually was riskware
[03:34] <patrick-> but with malwarebytes i was able to remove it
[03:34] <usr13> riskware?
[03:34] <patrick-> yea
[03:34] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok, im out for lunch.....
[03:34] <patrick-> that apparently affected my friends website
[03:34] <usr13> malwarebytes?
[03:34] <patrick-> i had up on my browser
[03:35] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, see ya when you get back
[03:35] <usr13> patrick-: Do you have a question about Ubuntu?
[03:35] <patrick-> http://www.armenianhighland.com
[03:35] <patrick-> click below those 2 links
[03:35] <patrick-> move your mouse there
[03:35] <patrick-> in the brown space
[03:35] <usr13> patrick-: The topic for this channel is Ubuntu
[03:36] <Jeffrey_f> patrick-:  like I said, you need to put forth a bit of effort to get  an infection.  If it was just your browser, you can kill your profile folder in for firefox or what ever and next start it will creat a new profile folder
[03:36] <patrick-> usr13, ok
[03:36] <patrick-> sorry
[03:36] <TJ-> BrandonC Bashing-om faulty DRAM module possible too?
[03:36] <gartral> anyone here running with a Gobi-2000 3g modem? I really need some help here.. Ubuntu 14.04
[03:37] <ObrienDave> gartral, no, what it the issue?
[03:37] <ObrienDave> *is
[03:38] <genoobie> TJ-, well
[03:38] <genoobie> I swapped a couple of card
[03:38] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Presently anything is possible, bout to the point to reboot, and take detailed notes on the procedure to obtain a new partition table ( other box is down, so gotta boot this one ) .
[03:38] <genoobie> cards
[03:39] <genoobie> each time, computer stopped booting with an unsupported hardware message
[03:39] <TJ-> genoobie: I saw that one of the laptops is locked to its WiFi card :(
[03:39] <genoobie> all three were
[03:39] <TJ-> genoobie: Sometimes I really despise the proprietary lock-in
[03:39] <genoobie> no way to really test them
[03:39] <genoobie> I did push the rfkill switch a few times at boot
[03:40] <genoobie> nothing really revealing happened
[03:40] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, no errors found
[03:40] <genoobie> I can check the dmesg
[03:40] <BrandonC> i can try other ram
[03:40] <TJ-> genoobie: I think we need to take a break from it, do some thinking... if it is possible to test that Atheros card in another person's laptop that isn't locked to its adapters, that'd be my goal
[03:40] <genoobie> there's that madwifi bracnh
[03:40] <genoobie> *branch
[03:41] <TJ-> genoobie: I think I have one of those atheros cards lying around... let me go hunt in the bits bin
[03:41] <TJ-> genoobie: The driver is working fine, I'm sure of it... you've got a hardware issue there ... that device doesn't even need firmware
[03:43] <TJ-> genoobie: ahh no, it has a AR9380 chipset
[03:43] <maddawg> question... i'm trying to use the rm command to remove a bunch of file types but i need it to look at a directory recursively
[03:43] <gartral> ObrienDave: gobi-loader hangs indefinately even though it has wwan firmware to load, the card is on, and everything should just work >.<
[03:44] <maddawg> for example i have a directoryu with multiple directories and i need all .jpg ,tbn. .info files removed automatically
[03:44] <maddawg> as well as .txt
[03:44] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Lemme see how Lost_x is getting along .. and I reboot and get details from the liveDVD on redoing the disk's partition table.
[03:44] <maddawg> but i need it to also remove them from sub directories and sub-sub-directories etc
[03:44] <genoobie> TJ-, by hardware issue you mean a bad card?
[03:44] <genoobie> or pinched wire, etc?
[03:45] <maddawg> i know you can just do rm -rf *.jpg  to rmeove all jpg files, but what about doing that for all the directories inside a directory
[03:45] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k, cd didnt have errors restarted and changing ram
[03:45] <TJ-> genoobie: That or bad antennas/connections, yes
[03:45] <genoobie> hrm...okay
[03:45] <genoobie> so usb wireless?
[03:46] <TJ-> genoobie: or the RF kill switch misbehaving in some way
[03:46] <genoobie> that seems so clunk.
[03:46] <genoobie> clunky
[03:46] <TJ-> genoobie: you ought to be able to pick up a replacement HP part quite cheaply... as long as its the HP I'd think the laptop will accept it
[03:47] <TJ-> genoobie: lspci says its the HP AR5BXB63
[03:47] <genoobie> yes, that would help in identifying the problem
[03:47] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: a memtest from the liveDVD will check the ram for ya ( when in doubt run it overnight !) .// Lost_x is at lunch, so I backing all out here and booting into my liveDVD. be back soonest .
[03:47] <genoobie> anyway to software bypass the switch?
[03:47] <genoobie> like suppress / etc?
[03:48] <TJ-> genoobie: I could not find any reports of issues with that device. The only other remote possibility is that in the HP - like in some Dells - the BIOS has a radio kill function itself
[03:48] <genoobie> well it's possible the switch is acting funny
[03:48] <somsip> maddawg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7096528/remove-all-of-a-file-type-from-a-directory-and-its-children
[03:48] <TJ-> genoobie: the point of hardware switches is to physically stop the radio from transmitting
[03:48] <TJ-> genoobie: possible but with the LED activity you reported I think unlikely
[03:49] <genoobie> TJ-, so you think the problem is in the card.
[03:49] <gartral> are you guys talking about wifi or 3g stuff?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> some wifi devices have a weird wifi method to disable, then reboot from windows to keep disabled wifi
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> like medion
[03:50] <genoobie> I suppose I could install xp and see if it works
[03:50] <genoobie> that would narrow down the problem
[03:50] <TJ-> genoobie: Unless you can see it working with a different Linux distro, or Windows, I think that has to be the conclusion. The only other thing, as I said earlier, is the AP is operating only 40MHz wide channels and the card is only listening for 20MHz wide channels
[03:50] <TJ-> genoobie: but if other devices can connect with 802.11g then it can't be that
[03:50] <genoobie> So TJ- to verify that.
[03:51] <genoobie> oh right the other laptop connected, same OS, different card / hware
[03:51] <genoobie> hrm...
[03:51] <TJ-> genoobie: there's *one* other possibility I didn't think of remote though. The WiFi router could be configured to ignore the MAC address of that card
[03:51] <genoobie> no
[03:51] <genoobie> definitely not that
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: so this is a hp with as default Os xp?
[03:52] <genoobie> vista
[03:52] <TJ-> genoobie: the fact the other laptop could see 2 SSIDs rules that out though
[03:53] <genoobie> yes
[03:53] <Novartis> Dear god why!? vi is so unintuitive!
[03:54] <maddawg> thanks somsip i will take a look
[03:54] <genoobie> Like I said, the only other solution left is to install xp, (real pain though) and if the wireless doesn't work there then I know the hardware is the issue
[03:54] <genoobie> well let me have at it...
[03:54] <pr0metheu5> Hi, guys. Whenever I try to wake my computer up from hibernation, I get stuck at a dark screen. I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and the last thing says "setversion 1.4 failed." Something about permission being denied.
[03:55] <genoobie> well TJ- thank you very much for your patience and help.
[03:55] <TJ-> genoobie: you're welcome... let me know the outcome, whatever it is, I'm intrigued and annoyed!
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: some brands with wifi+windows enable/disable switch oesnt like ubuntu
[03:55] <genoobie> Oh wait, there is another option
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> i had this with some medion brands
[03:56] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yeah, we considered that, but everything about every test points to everything except actual reception is working
[03:56] <genoobie> I could reinstall 11.04 (last known working ubuntu)
[03:56] <daftykins> no you can't, because that's EOL
[03:56] <TJ-> genoobie: You could use a 11.04 live ISO
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i also did, those rfkill to see if its software/hardware, but i neve rbeen able to fix
[03:56] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: weird isn't it?
[03:56] <genoobie> oh, right
[03:56] <genoobie> let me do that
[03:57] <TJ-> genoobie: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/
[03:57] <genoobie> I think I might even have that disk lying around!
[03:57] <genoobie> brb
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: can you check bios if wifi says 'last state'
[03:57] <genoobie> lotuspsychje, nope
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:57] <genoobie> bios is super stripped down
[03:58] <genoobie> let me try that 11.04 brb
[03:58] <Dougie187> Has anyone ever noticed terrible performance with luks on 14.04?
[03:58] <TJ-> Dougie187: no
[03:58] <Dougie187> (trying to figure out what the cause is)
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !info luks
[03:58] <Dougie187> lotuspsychje: I think it's dmcrypt
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !info dmcrypt
[03:59] <TJ-> Dougie187: have you checked "/var/log/kern.log" ?
[03:59] <pr0metheu5> Hi, guys. Whenever I try to wake my computer up from hibernation, I get stuck at a dark screen. I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and the last thing says "setversion 1.4 failed." Something about permission being denied.
[03:59] <Novartis> How do I break a line in vi?
[03:59] <Dougie187> TJ-: let me check.
[03:59] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: it's kernel module dm_crypt
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play a bit with your wifi to see errors
[04:00] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: we did that, do you want all the pastebin URLs ?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: oh sure ill take a look, you got urls?
[04:00] <Dougie187> TJ-: I get a lot of "current rate 17476 is different from the runtime rate 44100" if that means anything
[04:00] <Dougie187> but my problem currently is that *everything* causes cpu usage to jump to >100%
[04:01] <Dougie187> (on an 8 core machine)
[04:01] <fishcooker> i want to restart the box .. is there any option on grub so that i can login on command line only no gui needed?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: whats your end goal?
[04:02] <fishcooker> what process/apps do you use Dougie187 ?
[04:02] <fishcooker> just command line lotuspsychje ?
[04:02] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yes: "iwlist wlan0 freq" http://pastebin.com/fCxpN53Z  "/var/log/dmesg" http://pastebin.com/bHQGCbbb "lspci -nnvvvk" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845065/ "fwts aspm" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845094/ "tail -n 750 /var/log/syslog"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845185/  "iwlist wlan0 scan" (from another PC) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845148/
[04:02] <Dougie187> fishcooker: right now, pidgin, chrome, keepass2, and gnome-terminal
[04:02] <genoobie> brb
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: install ubuntu server then?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: tnx
[04:03] <TJ-> Dougie187: "44100" suggests audio... that's the default CD-audio record rate 44.1kHz
[04:03] <fishcooker> this is a desktop lotuspsychje.. on this case i want to login command line
[04:03] <hikkib> Hello guys! Does anyone know how to connect to a l2tp ipsec vpn in ubuntu 14.04? Something with a gui would be much appreciated
[04:03] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: The kernel module is "ath5k" and "/etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf" contains "options ath5k nohwcrypt=1 no_rf_kill_switch=0" (we tried that with =1, too)
[04:03] <fishcooker> please use htop for interative process monitor, Dougie187
[04:03] <Dougie187> TJ-: Ah ok. Thanks.
[04:03] <ObrienDave> gartral, sorry, i did not see your response. i would try getting the firmware updated first before trying to fix the other issue
[04:04] <TJ-> Dougie187: have you got a run-away audio process, or ALSA issue, maybe?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ubuntu version was trusty?
[04:04] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yes, dmesg says "Ubuntu 3.13.0-32.57-generic"
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: im using 'quiet splash' off but that will bring you to gui login also
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: how about atheros firmware update?
[04:05] <fishcooker> with htop you can see what apps that use your cpu most, Dougie187
[04:05] <Dougie187> Yeah, I was using top before. But I'll check htop and see whats up
[04:05] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: originally there was no "wlan0" at all... adding ath5k options fixed that. That atheros card requires no firmware blobs
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: some atheros cards can do crazy things
[04:06] <Dougie187> looks like I get a ton of usage from oneconf-service and some apt-update thing
[04:06] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yeah... I did some cross checking on the HP sub-model as well as the Atheros PCI ID, could find nothing vaguely similar in terms of problem reports
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: and the wifi did what exactly as error?
[04:07] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: no error... but "iwlist wlan0 scan" simply does not see the two APs within range. The user's own AP is on channel 2, other 802.11g devices can connect
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: maybe worth to test WEP instead of WPA?
[04:08] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: we spent some time chasing down the RF kill side to ensure the card was enabled. The LED on the laptop is lit blue when the hardware switch is in the on position, and the LED pulses orange at regular intervals too
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[04:09] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: It doesn't get that far, there is no AP found to try to authenticate against, and the SSID isn't hidden
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: thats odd indeed
[04:10] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, I am back .. got my sense of direction restored .
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: this was a clean install or upgrade?
[04:10] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: So far as I'm aware a clean install
[04:12] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, http://oi59.tinypic.com/2d13fpd.jpg
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: NetworkManager[814]: <info> (wlan0): deactivating device (reason 'managed') [2] weird
[04:13] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: look'n at your m/2d13fpd.jpg.
[04:13] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yes, everything looks OK from the Network Manager side....OH HECK!!!!
[04:14] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, right click on 'sda5'and choose "swap off" .
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: seems like its activating/disactivating randomly what would explain the wifi light on/off
[04:14] <BrandonC> k
[04:15] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I just had a realisation... I hope it isn't though! genoobie told me he had created an ad-hoc network by accident... I *wonder* if the card has been put into a different mode and won't come back into managed? I know 'iwconfig' reported it in managed mode... let me search back through my log of our conversations for all the pastebin links, to check
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: kk :p
[04:15] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yes. That is standard NM/wpa_supplicant behaviour... it scans for new networks... but in this case isn't finding any
[04:16] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, then what?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: never saw one of those neither: ath5k 0000:07:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control
[04:18] <genoobie> TJ-, you still here?
[04:18] <genoobie> in either case I had a puppylinux cd lying around
[04:19] <genoobie> and I am wirelessly connected
[04:19] <genoobie> I was hoping to glean some info
[04:19] <lix-64> alguien que hable español?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> Now, make sure that sda is in the upper right corner still ( safty is no accident) .. in the task bar click 'Devide" -> Create Partition Table -> WARNING erase all data blah blah  blah , make sure the default "msdos' is set inthe  "Select New Partition Type:" window ->> apply. Now back to the task bar and choose edit -> Apply All operations -> in the summary window again see what is going to be done and again -> apply .. should now be a done dea
[04:19] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !es | lix-64
[04:19] <TJ-> genoobie: really!? which kernel version? "uname -r"
[04:19] <ObrienDave> !es | lix-64
[04:19] <Bashing-om> Devide/Device*
[04:20] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje, you're too quick ;P
[04:20] <genoobie> TJ- hold a sec
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | ObrienDave
[04:20] <TJ-> genoobie: that's good news at least :)
[04:20] <genoobie> 3.0.25
[04:20] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje, ;P
[04:20] <genoobie> that's consistent with what I had in lubuntu 11
[04:20] <lix-64> ubottu: gracias
[04:21] <TJ-> genoobie: So quite old... I wonder if you've found a bug :)
[04:21] <genoobie> yay!
[04:21] <genoobie> so now what?
[04:21] <TJ-> genoobie: At least you've proved the card is fine :)
[04:21] <genoobie> madwifi?
[04:21] <genoobie> yep
[04:21] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, got when i select msdos and apply gives me only partatitin unallocated, and nothing to aply
[04:21] <genoobie> at least that's good to know
[04:22] <genoobie> can I find out which driver is being used?
[04:22] <genoobie> hey
[04:23] <genoobie> TJ-, do you still have those links?
[04:23] <TJ-> genoobie: madwifi was superseded by ath5k
[04:24] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Hummm ... think'n /// Maybe we try and partition that hard drive ?? see what then results ?
[04:24] <genoobie> not that this makes a diff, but the chip was identified in puppylinux with [168c:001c]
[04:24] <TJ-> genoobie: "sudo lspci -nnkkvvv -s 07:00.0"
[04:24] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes, that is the PCI ID of the device... the driver matches that ID to know it matches
[04:25] <genoobie> yep ath5k
[04:25] <genoobie> maybe the issue is with cfg80211 or mac80211
[04:26] <genoobie> maybe I'll just use puppylinux
[04:26] <TJ-> genoobie: I wonder if you installed the latest mainline kernel into Ubuntu, whether that would work. Ubuntu builds and packages the mainline kernels for just this type of situation
[04:26] <TJ-> genoobie: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[04:26] <genoobie> I think I did that with apt-get upgrade
[04:27] <TJ-> genoobie: No, you can't get the latest mainline... by installing a mainline it tells us if the Ubuntu kernel is carrying bugs relative to more recent 'vanilla' kernels
[04:27] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, create new partition, free space preceding, new size, free space folloing, create as: primary parittion, logical , extended.... file system ext4 label
[04:27] <BrandonC> disk maximum size 38166
[04:28] <genoobie> TJ-, can you give me that link again?
[04:28] <TJ-> genoobie: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[04:30] <genoobie> TJ-, not to belabor the point, but what is the basic idea?
[04:30] <genoobie> so a more "modern" kernel may have addressed this bug?
[04:30] <genoobie> TJ-, how would I look up this bug?
[04:31] <TJ-> genoobie: correct, and a kernel that has no Ubuntu-specific patches
[04:31] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Maybe as there was still the extended partiton, and sweap partitions on the disk, GParted would not permit a new table to be made ?? // I Had in mind to let the installer set up partitions on the disk automagically, but Iffen ya want we cn set up the partitions ourselfs .. as in / 8 Gig, /home 30 Gigs, and for swap I thouhgt 2 Gigs as reasonable.
[04:31] <TJ-> genoobie: Let's find out if it is one... if there is, I can look at all the kernel commits to the ath5k file between the 2 points to try and identify the patch that would have fixed the issue
[04:31] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[04:31] <BrandonC> its says 37.27 unallocated
[04:32] <genoobie> well that's definitely out of my leagure at this pint
[04:32] <genoobie> *point
[04:32] <TJ-> genoobie: I can do it here trivially
[04:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, rebooting back in a few
[04:34] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: 37.27 would be about right as the extended partition containing the swap partition is still extent.
[04:34] <TJ-> genoobie: there have only been 12 patches to ath5k since the Ubuntu kernel 3.13
[04:35] <genoobie> yes, but the known working kernel is 3.0.25
[04:35] <genoobie> and lubuntu 11.04 (don't know which kernel that is but I seem to recall a 3.0.something
[04:35] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, http://oi62.tinypic.com/rh8h3l.jpg
[04:36] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, am back
[04:36] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: lookin at .com/rh8h3l.jpg .
[04:36] <WithoutDoctrine> hi
[04:36] <Odd0002> hello?
[04:36] <t2mkn> while using "sudo apt-get update" i see links starting with "Hit", "Get", "Ign". what these mean ? :-/
[04:36] <genoobie> Hello
[04:37] <t2mkn> hi
[04:37] <genoobie> So TJ-, if I am not mistaken, you could suggest that one of these patches killed the driver?
[04:37] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes, but first it helps to know if the problem still exists. If it does, we can track back from 3.13 towards 3.0 looking for other causes
[04:37] <WithoutDoctrine> someone helpme please
[04:38] <genoobie> TJ-, what tools are you using to help figure that out?  I'm curious, because once upon a time I wanted to write device drivers.
[04:38] <TJ-> genoobie: It is obviously something to do with the kernel version, and we know the thing fails to get any scan results
[04:38] <Odd0002> I'm trying to decrease my boot times, so I used bootchart and removed modemmanager and bluez/other bluetooth packages (I don't have either), but for some reason my CPU usage during boot increased (http://imagebin.org/316299 vs http://imagebin.org/316302).  Can anyone tell me why this is?
[04:38] <ObrienDave> t2mkn, hit means contact with repo, get means getting updated package list, ign means package list is current or repo is ignored. something like that
[04:38] <TJ-> genoobie: "gitlog -n 50  v3.13..HEAD --  drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/" in the Linux kernel tree
[04:38] <socketguru> Hi all
[04:38] <genoobie> oh, I see.
[04:39] <ObrienDave> !ask | WithoutDoctrine
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Odd0002
[04:40] <t2mkn> ObrienDave: got it. thanks. is this "Ign" ok or i need to fix anything?
[04:41] <Odd0002> lotuspsychje: does preload only load disk into RAM?  What about that CPU usage you can see in the bootcharts?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: 1st partiton suggestion: free space preceeding 1, new size 30,000 , free space following 1 , alighn to Mib (OK) , create as Primary , file system ext4 , label / ....
[04:41] <ObrienDave> t2mkn, not to worry, just means package list is current
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Odd0002: not sure what causes cpu load, check your logs
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Odd0002: i use quiet splash off for text boot, bit quicker
[04:42] <t2mkn> ObrienDave: ooo ok
[04:42] <socketguru> I have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and want to run systemd for init services...is systemd stable enough for this?
[04:43] <BrandonC> successful
[04:43] <genoobie> I wish I knew how to remove certain patches, etc.
[04:43] <BrandonC> 7.97 unallocated Bashing-om
[04:43] <Odd0002> lotuspsychje: it seems preload is only for apps that run after boot... and anyways I'm limited on RAM (1 GB and lubuntu)... so I'm not sure it'll be useful...
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: did you install trusty with cable?
[04:44] <TJ-> genoobie: I've just looked at the patch history from 3.0..3.13 and nothing stands out as being a possible cause
[04:44] <genoobie> TJ do you think the problem could be specific to lubuntu?
[04:44] <genoobie> should I install ubuntu and then pick LXDE?
[04:44] <TJ-> genoobie: next time you boot that laptop into Ubuntu, can you do "iwconfig wlan0" and check it is in mode Managed?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: UHH,, !! I messed that one up ... change the label to /home .
[04:44] <TJ-> genoobie: No, this is a kernel issue if anything
[04:44] <genoobie> TJ-, I could do that
[04:45] <genoobie> I could do that now, is there any more info I should get from puppylinux
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Odd0002: any trick that speeds up would be usefull yes
[04:45] <t2mkn> problem installing "iBall AIRWAY 3G 21.0Mbps dongle" can some one help.
[04:45] <genoobie> lotuspsychje, yes it was with a cable
[04:45] <socketguru> hi all, can anyone suggest regarding my problem... I have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and want to run systemd for init services...is systemd stable enough for this? I was using archlinux before and systemd was great.. but now we have to use production server which is ubuntu.....
[04:45] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: scratvch that, I was not considering the overhead .. lets make that partition say 28 Gigs ...
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> socketguru: #ubuntu-server
[04:46] <genoobie> okay, going to boot into lubuntu
[04:46] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  it wont let me have free space preceding and following 1
[04:46] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, its auto populating the other when i change one to 1
[04:48] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Makes sense , but let's back up and start again ...
[04:49] <TJ-> BrandonC Bashing-om If I recall correctly, you set 2 out of the 3 of Before, Size, and After... the other is computed
[04:49] <BrandonC> ya
[04:49] <Bashing-om> make this / partiton as 8 Gigs, set to use as / .
[04:50] <genoobie> TJ-, back
[04:50] <genoobie> yes, it is "managed"
[04:50] <genoobie> okay, it is working now
[04:50] <genoobie> WHAATT??
[04:51] <genoobie> okay, here's what I "noticed"
[04:51] <genoobie> TJ-, you still here?
[04:51] <Odd0002> lotuspsychje: what about prelink?  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Prelink
[04:51] <mnathani> how do I reconfigure grub onto my bios_grub partition on a gpt disk
[04:51] <mnathani> I am running 3 disks in Software Raid 0
[04:52] <genoobie> TJ-, there's no "bug" because the wireless is working
[04:52] <genoobie> lotuspsychje, how familiar are you with this stuff?
[04:53] <FreedyTom> ok..my  microphones are not working
[04:53] <FreedyTom> tried frot audio and back audio.. with two different ones
[04:53] <FreedyTom> front*
[04:54] <FreedyTom> could it be a software problem?
[04:54] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, ok starting over, make an 8gig partition?
[04:54] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, make sure you don't have them muted first
[04:54] <FreedyTom> they arent' muted
[04:54] <genoobie> I spent like 8 hours on a wireless problem that "fixed itself"
[04:54] <genoobie> but I want to know why it works now and didn't before
[04:54] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, and it's detected me putting them in
[04:55] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yeah .. that will be for 'root' (/), and then we make up /home partiton as say 28 Gigs, and then the extended parition, and then the logical swap partition .
[04:55] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, run alsamixer in a terminal please
[04:56] <FreedyTom> yep got it
[04:56] <FreedyTom> it has rear-mic
[04:56] <FreedyTom> filled up to two-brs
[04:57] <ObrienDave> do you have any recording software like audacity or audio-recorder?
[04:57] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  getting confused, and sleepy
[04:58] <TJ-> genoobie: Interesting... I think the card got into a confused state, and the 3.0 boot sorted it out somehow
[04:58] <genoobie> TJ-, I booted quite a few times
[04:58] <genoobie> but TJ- since you have some skill
[04:59] <genoobie> oh maybe you saw my posts in ##linux
[04:59] <TJ-> genoobie: I know, but we know when you booted a 3.0 kernel it worked... and now it continues to work with a 3.13 kernel
[04:59] <genoobie> there's another difference
[04:59] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes I just did, was away reading when you were typing
[04:59] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Me too // but I am straight now .. 2 primary partitons, / and /home - extended partiton and within the extended partiton the logical partition /swap.
[05:00] <genoobie> So what do you make of that change?
[05:00] <genoobie> I only ask so I can address that in the future.
[05:00] <genoobie> if I have to reinstall or fix something
[05:00] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, hmm
[05:00] <FreedyTom> i installed audio recorder
[05:00] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, ok so 8gig, 1mib before, rest after?
[05:00] <FreedyTom> but nothing is recording
[05:00] <genoobie> so when I did rfkill llist all something like 3: phy0: wireless LAN
[05:01] <genoobie> then 2: then 1:
[05:01] <genoobie> now finally 0: and it works
[05:01] <genoobie> there seems to be a relationship
[05:01] <TJ-> genoobie: see my response to that in ##linux :)
[05:01] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yep, that will be fine .. when we set up /home we do it then as "free space preceeding" 1 Mib.
[05:02] <genoobie> I'l stay in linux
[05:03] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, ok, sec, please
[05:04] <FreedyTom> no worries
[05:06] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, 8gig primary partition, ext4?
[05:06] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: yes .. for ext4 .
[05:06] <TJ-> genoobie_: what now?
[05:06] <noob_saibot_> is there a way to erase my windows 7 partition?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ live USB, gparted, select and delete win7 partition
[05:08] <noob_saibot_> so do i get gparted run it on boot?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ boot from Ubuntu USB
[05:08] <noob_saibot_> oh
[05:08] <noob_saibot_> then run gparted?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ yep
[05:09] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k done
[05:09] <noob_saibot_> I better move all my stuff in this part of the disk now.
[05:09] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, ok, let's try to run PulseAudio Volume Control
[05:10] <FreedyTom> ok
[05:10] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im here. i just read an installtion guide https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/amd64/ch06s03.html#di-partition maybe we can try installing ubuntu in LVM. i notice that we have problems in space where we can install ubuntu.
[05:10] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, i'm in built-in analog stereo.. port: rear-microphone
[05:10] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, should be in Multimedia menu
[05:10] <dqwe3> just a general question. can someone look through your OS like a trojan or virus? maybe through your software? spying?
[05:11] <noob_saibot_> yes
[05:11] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, wb, we can try a manual install, if you like
[05:11] <cfhowlett> dqwe3 of course.  no OS is uncrackable
[05:11] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Next for the /home parttion ... free space preceeding 1 , make the new size as 28,000 , primary , ext4 , label is /home .
[05:11] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, i'm on 12.04 so might be slightly different..  i'm on input devices.. it has rear-microphone
[05:11] <FreedyTom> it's not muted
[05:11] <noob_saibot_> ubuntu is virsus free. right?
[05:11] <dqwe3> cfhowlett, how do you know if it is happening with ubuntu?
[05:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: i wouldlike that
[05:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: let's try it
[05:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, get back to the Gparted program, buckle up and hang on ;P
[05:13] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: fastening the safety belt...... hehehe
[05:13] <cfhowlett> dqwe3 noob_saibot_ I've 2 user account; 1 with sudo privileges, one without.  the low privilege account is for daily use.  I also enabled my firewall.  have yet to see a virus
[05:13] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, i'm thinking your input volume is turned down or off
[05:13] <noob_saibot_> do i have a fire wall on now?
[05:13] <noob_saibot_> how can i tell?
[05:13] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave Caution on LVM ... that is encrption, a layer of compexity that in times of troubles may not be able to overcome !
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !uwf | noob_saibot_
[05:13] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ firewall is disabled by default
[05:13] <dqwe3> cfhowlett, how do i get a firewall?
[05:14] <noob_saibot_> how do i turn it on?
[05:14] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is your last pic current to the HD partitions? you hav made no changes to the disk
[05:14] <dqwe3> cfhowlett,they can only get through your OS with a virus or your password right?
[05:14] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: that was as i left
[05:15] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, no LVM, check :)
[05:15] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k
[05:15] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, do you understand what sda, sda1, sda2 mean?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Ok .. set up the extended partition .. what is left for free space now ? ..
[05:17] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let me get Gparted running on mine
[05:18] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: that's the equivalent of windows system partitions
[05:18] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back in 5
[05:20] <grilo> iae rapaziada
[05:20] <grilo> gostaria de entender que q é isso?
[05:21] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  http://oi61.tinypic.com/fe2s74.jpg
[05:21] <grilo> aguem ai
[05:21] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: look'n at om/fe2s74.jpg .
[05:22] <mnathani> How do I get Grub to work correctly when running a GPT system
[05:22] <mnathani> The first time I installed, it messed up and installed on MBR
[05:23] <mnathani> I am running software Raid
[05:23] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Let's see if 2 Gigs fits .. free space preceeding 1 , new size 2,000 alighn to 1 Mib , create as extended .
[05:24] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, its populating the 3rd when i make it extended partition
[05:24] <FreedyTom> Obrian: yeah ok.. i'll try and play around with that later
[05:25] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes but more importantly, sda is the 1st physical drive. sdb is the second drive, etc.
[05:26] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, sda1 is the 1st partition on 1st drive, sda2 is second partition, etc.
[05:26] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, follow so far?
[05:26] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: " its populating the 3r " a big enough number we want to make the extended partiton larger ??? .
[05:26] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: here's the gparted image right now  http://ibin.co/1UO3BUE9WqDy
[05:26] <Lost_x> yes
[05:27] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i can make preceding 1, size 2163, following 1
[05:28] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK .. that would also be good.
[05:28] <BrandonC> lable?
[05:29] <adminewb> on trusty the software updater says packages are up to date, but then if I run aptitude it's finding things that are upgradable?  both are using the same sources.list so why would they disagree?
[05:29] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: ahh.. you can make that label /extended .
[05:30] <BrandonC> k
[05:30] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, right click on sda2 and hit resize
[05:30] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, grab the RIGHT edge and drag to the left about halfway
[05:31] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: now for the /swap partion .. use all of the ectened ; create as logical , - no file system as swap has none, and label /swap .
[05:31] <Bashing-om> ectended/extended *
[05:32] <BrandonC> linux-swap?
[05:33] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Think it best to leave it as /swap --- so the installer recognizes what it is .
[05:35] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k
[05:37] <BrandonC> http://oi58.tinypic.com/27wvjnk.jpg Bashing-om
[05:39] <pr0t> hi I am trying to repair my /boot because it got corrupted during an upgrade I am using boot disk repair and I decrypt my root fs and try to repair but it fails saying it can't because its encrypted, anyone know how to fix this?
[05:39] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK... I am tired for sure, the next thing is to install, "something else" option .. I would just as soon await a better time to continue, What we have set up,  the installer will change somewhat on the sizes, and a re-confirmation will be required to direct the installer as to what we want . Just as soon tackel this phase in the morrow.
[05:39] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i can wait till tomorrow
[05:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, still with me?
[05:40] <crc32> so how do I see the hours on sunclock?
[05:40] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: yeap
[05:40] <crc32> I click on the E and nothing happens.
[05:40] <TJ-> pr0t: Is the file-sytem contains "/boot/grub/" encrypted, or is it a separate file-system mounted at "/boot/" ?
[05:41] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let me know when you've done the tasks, please :)
[05:41] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: The set up looks doable to me .. one other check .. terminal command -> sudo fdisk -lu <- . see what the numbers are there.
[05:41] <pr0t> no, /boot is in the root fs :(
[05:41] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im inthe gparted
[05:41] <pr0t> it would be nice to change that
[05:41] <pr0t> so that its not encrypted
[05:41] <Lost_x> seen the image
[05:42] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, have you done the sda2 resize yet?
[05:43] <Lost_x> not yet
[05:43] <TJ-> pr0t: You'll need to add "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" to "/etc/default/grub" and then do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" (where X is the boot drive letter), and then "sudo update-grub" in order for GRUB to be able to boot an encrypted file-system
[05:43] <Guest51369><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:43] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, right click on sda2 and hit resize
[05:43] <Lost_x> how much space we need to allocate?
[05:43] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, grab the RIGHT edge arrow and drag to the left about halfway
[05:44] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you can make them however you like, i'm going to try to give you 50-50 Win7 and Ubuntu
[05:44] <TJ-> pr0t: To do that, you'll probably need to use a Live ISO in order to create a chroot mount of the encrypted system, to run those commands in
[05:44] <pr0t> i get the error Path "/boot/grub is not readable by grub on boot.
[05:44] <crc32> Any body ever gotton sunclock to actually display the hours bar?
[05:44] <pr0t> ya i am in a live cd and uncrypted iut
[05:45] <TJ-> pr0t: this script of mine may help you with the chroot setup (it automates it): https://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash
[05:45] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: resize/move is disabled
[05:45] <BrandonC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845791/ Bashing-om
[05:45] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: only "unmount" and "manage flags"
[05:45] <TJ-> pr0t: however, it may get confused by your encrypted root-filesystem. the steps in the script you can follow manually, though
[05:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, thought so because of the little lock symbol next to sda2, "unmount"
[05:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, now, resize should work
[05:47] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, make sure you grab the RIGHT edge or else it will take HOURS to move the partition
[05:48] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Looks good ! .. That should workie ! .. you are now a step above rookie level ( a separate /home is to be prefered ) we will discuss the learning curve related to '/' later.
[05:49] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im giving about 276/200mb,
[05:49] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: free space preceeding is 0
[05:49] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: proceed to resize/move?
[05:49] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, / for os, /home for user files, swap so os can use like ram?
[05:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you want all free space on the right, yes, resize
[05:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, at the bottom you'll see pending operations, apply
[05:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, this should only take a few minutes
[05:51] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done, i have aobut 195Gib of unallocated space
[05:51] <ObrienDave> excellent
[05:51] <ObrienDave> right click the free space and hit "new"
[05:51] <pr0t> hey TJ so I did all that and still i get the error to set cryptodisk-1 in my grub
[05:51] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: sda2 is now 270
[05:51] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, well till tomorrow gnight
[05:52] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done
[05:52] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yepper, you got it .. seperate /home gives ya more options in particular saving data, and working with the file system, fault isolation and restoration in times of troubles ( may they never ever happen, but it can ).
[05:52] <ObrienDave> lost, if that's ok with you, all is good so far, if you want more Ubuntu space, now is the time to adjust it
[05:52] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: it says here - create as "primary partition" and file system is ext4
[05:53] <ObrienDave> Lost_x,
[05:53] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it should be an extended partition
[05:53] <TJ-> pr0t: do you know which partition on the disk is the encrypted? if it were #1 you'd do something like "insmod cryptodisk" and then "cryptomount hd0,msdos1" at which point you should be asked for the pass-phrase. If that succeeds you'd see "slot 0 open" and then you do "insmod normal" then "normal" to get to the GRUB menu
[05:53] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: and the label is "blank"?
[05:53] <ObrienDave> for now
[05:54] <pr0t> sorry TJ I was using a 1 instead of a y, it worked, let me reboot and see if it worked overall
[05:54] <mnathani> grub keeps insisting on installing to the master boot record of my first hard drive
[05:54] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it should also show as sda3
[05:54] <mnathani> how do I get it to install in the bios-boot grub partition
[05:54] <thunder> 新人报道，请问这种聊天室有什么规矩
[05:54] <ObrienDave> !cn | thunder
[05:55] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: it show "new partition #1 fifle system - ext4
[05:55] <ObrienDave> ok, go for it
[05:55] <mnathani> !jp | ObrienDave
[05:55] <thunder> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:56] <pr0t> TJ so that worked, but now for my grub options only thing I have to boot is *System setup :-/
[05:56] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, take a new pic please
[05:56] <Lost_x> ok
[05:56] <AlecTaylor> Hi
[05:57] <TJ-> pr0t: You mean at the GRUB boot menu?
[05:58] <AlecTaylor> Can't boot into Ubuntu, stuck on: "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices"
[05:58] <TJ-> pr0t: I've never seen "system setup" on a GRUB menu, aside from a live ISO/DVD or similar
[05:59] <Lost_x> uploading....
[06:00] <ObrienDave> k
[06:00] <pr0t> TJ: yes at the grub boot menu
[06:00] <pr0t> for its setparams 'System setup' fwsetup
[06:01] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: http://ibin.co/1UOFEw7x5rje
[06:01] <TJ-> pr0t: That's the UEFI boot manager option isn't it?
[06:02] <TJ-> pr0t: is there some mix-up between UEFI and CSM (legacy) mode boot, or is it UEFI all the way?
[06:03] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, looking good so far
[06:04] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: so, there is where we can create space for "/", "/swap", and "/home"?
[06:04] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you need to apply the pending operations, yes, first things first
[06:04] <AlecTaylor> Can't boot into Ubuntu, stuck on: "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices" - http://askubuntu.com/q/501885
[06:07] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, press green check mark to apply current pending operations
[06:08] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok
[06:08] <ObrienDave> should only take a few minutes
[06:09] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: got an error
[06:09] <ObrienDave> what error?
[06:10] <J12B> Hi guys an urgent request. I need to low format my HDD, what OS should I put on my bootable USB for this?
[06:10] <Lost_x> sending you the image
[06:11] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave :: now that the Window's partition has been resized, have you ran Windows 'chkdsk' to make sure Windows is happy happy !
[06:11] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, not yet
[06:12] <Lost_x> resizing windows is successful but the new partition it got error
[06:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, delete the new partition and apply
[06:12] <Lost_x> http://ibin.co/1UOItbgaWRBr
[06:15] <Lost_x> deleting...
[06:16] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let gparted finish, then reboot into Win7 and run chkdsk c: /x      it will have to run after a reboot
[06:17] <adminewb> J12B have you tried spinrite?
[06:18] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x // think, in the now unallocated space ( after removing "primary partition #1) we want a primary partion for /, and extended partion for logical partitions /home and /swap ???
[06:18] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, yes, do you recommend the chkdsk first?
[06:19] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x // YES, indeed, let's make sure Windows is Happy at the earliest oportunity.
[06:19] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, was thinking extended for remainder with / /home /swap logical
[06:21] <adminewb> J12B for a security wipe on a hard drive, you want something other than "low level format"
[06:21] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, but if you think seperate partitions for / and /home /swap is better, i agree
[06:22] <J12B> adminewb, what would you recommend?
[06:22] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: That too, will work .. for some odd reason I am just the more comfortable with '/' as a primary partition when I can ..however, ubuntu will install happily into an extended partition.
[06:23] <adminewb> J12B, I have little experience in that area, just heard some tips somewhere
[06:23] <TJ-> J12B: no disks these days support low-level format under user control, that went out with MFM drives I think!
[06:23] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: ObrienDave, thi is not normal? got this when i shutdown ubuntu... http://ibin.co/1UOMIM0kXBtt
[06:24] <jwater> Hi all. How do I define hyper key in my newly installed ubuntu?
[06:24] <jwater> Thanks
[06:24] <TJ-> J12B:  most modern disks, if you simply want to erase them, you use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX ... it used to require several passes with different data patterns but modern writing techniques dont' suffer that limitation
[06:24] <pr0metheu5> is gnome shell 3.10 available in the software center?
[06:25] <J12B> I am looking to completely erase everything from my disk(s), leaving a blanco diskdrive
[06:26] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, i don't think it's a problem yet. let's do the Win7 chkdsk first
[06:26] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, It is in trusty
[06:26] <J12B> I think this should be done thru an bootable OS on usb
[06:26] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: IO error, maybe Windows will fix it when the check disk routine from above is run ( ??) .
[06:26] <TJ-> J12B: correct
[06:27] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, I can see 3.8 but not 3.10?
[06:27] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, What release ubuntu are you running
[06:28] <Lost_x> ok
[06:28] <pr0metheu5> beldar, 14.04, which is trusty tahr, isn't it?
[06:28] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, Bashing-om back in 5
[06:29] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, I'm in 14.04 I use the shell and it is 3.10.4, do have it installed?
[06:30] <Beldar> you*
[06:30] <J12B> then here is my question. Which tool(kit) should I use to erase the disk? writing all bits to 0
[06:30] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, I don't remember if I installed it or not, but I don't think so o_o
[06:30] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: win is now checking the disk.....
[06:30] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: restarting.....
[06:31] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, can I just do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[06:31] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: should i do some chkdsk again inside window?
[06:32] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Yes, the recommendation is 2X on chkdsk ...
[06:32] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, yeah that is the install
[06:32] <adminewb> J12B just about any tool set derived from *nix will include dd, which can read /dev/zero and write your raw hd device
[06:33] <pr0metheu5> It says I need the evolution-data-server and gnome-contacts
[06:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, open CMD run, chkdsk c: /x
[06:34] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, And your concern is?
[06:34] <adminewb> there's mention in the system rescue CD of tools wipe and shred if you want more elaborate erasing
[06:34] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it will probably tell you to reboot
[06:34] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, it won't install
[06:34] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Is this a stock 14.04 canonical ubuntu?
[06:35] <pr0metheu5> Oh, it's Xubuntu!
[06:36] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, So what wont install you have to be exact in this info.
[06:36] <adminewb> someone venture a guess why aptitude would disagree with software updater on whether trusty installation is up to date?
[06:36] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, software center says "gnome: Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.8+4ubuntu3) but 1:3.8+4ubuntu3 is to be installed"
[06:37] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Even better run the gnome-shell install info in the terminal and pastebin the whole thing.
[06:37] <Bashing-om> adminewb: staged updates have been implemented .
[06:37] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, okay, hold on
[06:38] <adminewb> Bashing-om, how's that work? aptitude is finding updates for such as: upstart, compiz, nautilus...
[06:38] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done checking 2x
[06:39] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/XEASXiVZ
[06:39] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, reboot into win7 if ok reboot into Ubuntu DVD
[06:39] <Lost_x> ok
[06:40] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, do I need to do apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop?
[06:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, this time go straight for Install Ubuntu
[06:40] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Now run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin it before giving a yes or no to finish.
[06:41] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, together? update && dist-upgrade?
[06:41] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:41] <Bashing-om> adminewb: I am not as up to date as I might should be ( I also do command line) .. but the theory is that from the software center, 1st release is 10 % of availabale to all users, if no problems reported, then the next increment is released and so on .. Commnad line does not have these 'restrictions'.
[06:42] <Beldar> pr0metheu5 yeah or separately same thing, the key is hold at the end before a yes or no on the install, I see a held broken package warning on your first paste.
[06:42] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, ObrienDave; http://pastebin.com/xiSVM50L
[06:43] <adminewb> Bashing-om thanks
[06:45] <Bashing-om> adminewb: : D , I did not read the documentation .. the source is available via ubuntuforum iffen ya want to search it out.
[06:45] <v1ros> what other software could I use other than phpmyadmin Iam running  10.04 LTS with the latest version of APACHE?
[06:46] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Can you identify what this is? http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release
[06:46] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, not a clue?
[06:47] <adminewb> it would appear then that aptitude offers updates associated with 14.04.1 slightly before official point release
[06:48] <Bashing-om> adminewb: Indications now are, as you are the second I have seen here tonight advising they are seeing 14.04.1 ...
[06:48] <pr0metheu5> do I need some ppa, maybe?
[06:49] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i have 14.04.1
[06:49] <Flannel> adminewb: 14.04.1 doesn't mean anything to updaters, it's just a roll-up of releases and a chance to update the installation media, etc.
[06:49] <adminewb> understood
[06:50] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Well ! let me update and see what I come up with ... huh ?
[06:50] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[06:50] <adminewb> there are base-files changes to consider, too
[06:50] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, a ppa no, you have spotify, I'm not sure what it is or does to an install. I would think a stock xubuntu would allow a gnome-shell install is all.
[06:51] <Lost_x> restarted win twice and its ok
[06:51] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, cat /etc/issue
[06:51] <Lost_x> booting to ubuntu now
[06:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, very good, go for install
[06:51] <lord4163> Where is the download for 14.04.1?
[06:52] <ObrienDave> lord4163, it's just an upgrade afaik
[06:52] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Do not know when it happened, update/upgrade was 0 0 0 0 ... but lsb_release -a -> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ... welll welll .
[06:53] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i was surprised as well, mine showed up 2 days ago LOL
[06:54] <lord4163> ObrienDave: Yes but I want the newly baked ISO.
[06:54] <ObrienDave> yesterday 08:32
[06:55] <adminewb> find newly baked ISO images at http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[06:55] <JGuichard> hi
[06:56] <lord4163> adminewb: That's 14.04
[06:57] <lord4163> They said 14.04.1 should be available today, not.
[06:57] <ObrienDave> lord4163, that does not necessarily mean a new ISO file
[06:57] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x // Hey guys, past my witching hour .. I am going to become a pumpkin for a short time and get my beauty rest. I will check progress on my morrow.
[06:58] <ObrienDave> ok Bashing-om thanks for all of your help
[06:58] <adminewb> hmm so the ISO builders haven't caught up yet
[07:00] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, spotify is just a music client
[07:00] <JGuichard> does anyone know where Ubuntu was first created??
[07:00] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back in 5
[07:01] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok
[07:02] <adminewb> lord4163 give them another 10 hours for ISOs to propagate through all the mirrors before panicking
[07:02] <Rohan_m> I dont know password of my user www-data but i have root access can i get his password or restore password
[07:02] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Yes I looked it up, can't say exactly what the issue is, however adding a 3rd party repos can change the OS, we see a ppa trusty there not sure what that is, there is nothing in my sources list like that, its 3rd party as well.
[07:02] <adminewb> all the other stuff appears available for general use
[07:02] <allan_> hello
[07:03] <v1ros> hello
[07:03] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: im in installation type, still no "install alongside windows". i chose "somthing esle". igot sda1 and sda2 in NTFS and a sda3 of no type...
[07:03] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, okay, do you think you could also take a look at my /etc/sources.list file?
[07:03] <allan_> this is my first time using xchat. looks cool
[07:04] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Just guessing on this however, without all the stuff added or associated to those two additional repos it is hit or miss and not sure I would know if I saw all that.
[07:04] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: should i proceed to install ubuntu now?
[07:04] <Rohan_m> I dont know password of my user www-data but i have root access can i get his password or restore password
[07:04] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, is there any gnome 3 related ppa that's supposed to be there by default that I might have accidentally removed?
[07:04] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, like gnome3next or something
 you can reset the passcode
[07:05] <Rohan_m> v1ros: how ?
[07:05] <chrissg> @allan_: Try hexchat, it's even cooler :)
[07:05] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, PPA's are third party never on a stock install.
[07:05] <Beldar> on=in
 you using phpmyadmin?
[07:06] <Rohan_m> v1ros: o.O php my admin ? How ? well i have PHP my admin on my server
[07:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back
 well loging and reset the passcode
[07:06] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: Bashing-om: im in installation type, still no "install alongside windows". i chose "somthing esle". igot sda1 and sda2 in NTFS and a sda3 of no type...
[07:07] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, This is beyond my help to be honest.
[07:07] <Rohan_m> v1ros: i wat database should i look which table ? n which coloumn ?
[07:07] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, okay, thanks a lot for trying
 its for a user correct?
[07:07] <antii> hi.. recently installed ubuntu server. i'm having a problem with ssh timeouts (never happend with my other distributions).. I can see that TCPKeepAlive is enabled in sshd_config but it doesen't seem to do anything.
[07:07] <Rohan_m> v1ros: yes user is  www-data
[07:08] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, in sda3 make a new partition of 25G, format and mount as /
  its not for an admin ?
[07:08] <Rohan_m> v1ros: no
[07:09] <Beldar> v1ros, You can tab complete nicks.
[07:09] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, / should have 0 before, 25G and the remainder after
[07:10] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: new partition table button is disabled....
[07:10] <ObrienDave> unmount
[07:10] <ObrienDave> unmount sda3
[07:10] <v1ros> if you can login too phpmyadmin  it should be for root and you should have no problems setting up users and previlages etc...
[07:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: no right click
[07:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: only edit partition
[07:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok edit
[07:12] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: what should i chose?
[07:13] <samurai> hi
[07:13] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, new pic please
[07:13] <Lost_x> ok
[07:13] <pr0metheu5> Can someone help me figure out why I can't install gnome-shell? Here's a pastebin of the the terminal output http://pastebin.com/XEASXiVZ
[07:13] <samurai> how  install KDE 13.04 please
[07:14] <samurai> i ask in this channel
[07:14] <ObrienDave> samurai, 13.04 is EOL not supported
[07:14] <cfhowlett> samurai upgrade to 14.04
[07:15] <cfhowlett> !kubuntu | samurai
[07:15] <samurai> another version of kde?
[07:15] <cfhowlett> samurai 13.04 is no longer supported - end of life - no security updates.  consider your priorities
[07:15] <lord4163> samurai: Get Kubuntu 14.04
[07:15] <v1ros> you can install several shells and choose which one to boot into
[07:16] <samurai>  for using my desktop? change di icons ecc..??
[07:16] <samurai> the*
[07:17] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: http://ibin.co/1UOcM18eNjks here the latest image
[07:17] <samurai> i install kubuntu thank you, because no xubuntu?
[07:17] <v1ros> ?
[07:18] <cfhowlett> !flavors | samurai
[07:18] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ext4
[07:19] <Lost_x> mount point is?
[07:19] <Lost_x> do i need to check the format this partition?
[07:19] <ObrienDave> none for now
[07:19] <ObrienDave> not yet
[07:20] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, apply
[07:21] <Lost_x> install now?
[07:21] <Lost_x> sda3 type is now ext4
[07:21] <Lost_x> but used is "unknown"
[07:21] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, now right click sda3 and add new
[07:22] <Lost_x> no right click
[07:22] <ObrienDave> dang
[07:23] <ObrienDave> sec
[07:32] <ObrienDave> dang, i can't remember how to make logical partition
[07:33] <viscera> ObrienDave: fdisk?
[07:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, how much RAM do you have?
[07:33] <Lost_x> 4Gib
[07:34] <ObrienDave> ok, let's do this, delete sda3 and apply
[07:34] <ObrienDave> viscera, i'll need help with fdisk
[07:35] <viscera> ObrienDave: fdisk /dev/sdwhatever
[07:35] <viscera> ObrienDave: press m to see a menu
[07:35] <Lost_x> it is now a free space
[07:38] <ObrienDave> ok, new partition in sda3, 0 before, 25GB, remainder after. ext4, mount as /, format
[07:38] <ObrienDave> apply
[07:38] <bioman> Good morning
[07:39] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[07:39] <lw> Hi, every body
[07:40] <Lost_x> still the new partition table button is disabled...
[07:40] <ObrienDave> unmount
[07:44] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, got it LOL
[07:47] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[07:48] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, where are we at with this?
[07:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, still no new partition button in sda3?
[07:50] <[erk]hacker> hello
[07:51] <Tooth_> good day
[07:51] <Ridley5> hi Tooth_
[07:54] <Lost_x> still no partition button...
[07:54] <okdamn> hi!
[07:54] <okdamn> i downloaded the .iso of ubuntu i would like to install it on macosx partition via usb
[07:54] <okdamn> do i need to mount it on usb or just to cpy it into ?
[07:54] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, still unallocated?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !mac|okdamn
[07:55] <ObrienDave> okdamn, ISO needs to be burned to DVD or USB, you just can't copy it
[07:55] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: what i did was, i went back to gparted then i created a new partition for the swap. but the remaining space was unallocated. can not create new partition because it is already four....
[07:56] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: but i proceed it anyway
[07:56] <okdamn> ObrienDave:  so i should mount it via disk utility on mac right?
[07:56] <okdamn> like any other os !?
[07:56] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, we need to do this in the install "something else"
[07:57] <ObrienDave> okdamn, sorry i know nothing about macs
[07:57] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: so i got sda1 for the recovery system of windows, sda2 for the windows7, sda3 for the "/" in ext type and sda4 for the swap. though, i still have unallocated space
[07:57] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, delete sda4
[07:58] <[erk]hacker> http://cbm.amu.edu.pl/system/files/hacker.jpg
[07:58] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, what size is sda3?
[07:59] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[08:04] <Lost_x> 190Gib
[08:05] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, delete sda3 and apply
[08:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, are you in gparted or the "something else" utility?
[08:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, i know they're the same program but it will matter when we finally get these partitions right
[08:07] <Lost_x> i created the partitions in gparted, cant add new partition in something else ulility
[08:08] <ObrienDave> ok, you're in gparted now?
[08:09] <Lost_x> when i proceed the installation with only the sda3 it wont proceed because there is no swap
[08:11] <star_prone> Hi all
[08:12] <ObrienDave> it will but since you have 4GB ram you should have a swap
[08:12] <Lost_x> i proceeded it anyway just to see it what happens
[08:12] <Lost_x> anyway we can go back from start
[08:12] <Lost_x> its installing....
[08:12] <ObrienDave> ok, let's see what happens
[08:13] <ObrienDave> install 3rd party software (fluendo) but not updates for mow
[08:14] <ObrienDave> *now
[08:14] <star_prone> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem with skype. The icon isn't shown in taskbar, it is shown only in unity's task bar on the left
[08:15] <star_prone> is this the normal behavior? other colleagues who are using an older version of Ubuntu don't have the same problem
[08:15] <kostkon> star_prone, install skype-wrapper to integrate it into the messaging menu  https://launchpad.net/~skype-wrapper/+archive/ppa
[08:15] <star_prone> thanks
[08:17] <kostkon> star_prone, after isntalling it, search for "skype" in the dash to access its settings
[08:19] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[08:20] <star_prone> do I have to restart unity after installing skype-wrapper?
[08:21] <kostkon> star_prone, no, just restart skype I think
[08:21] <kostkon> star_prone, you can always logout and log back in if you aren't sure
[08:21] <star_prone> hmmm.... strange
[08:21] <star_prone> ain't working
[08:22] <kostkon> star_prone, the skype icon will now appear in the messaging menu not in the tray
[08:22] <kostkon> star_prone, messaging menu -> the envelope icon
[08:22] <star_prone> it doesn't appear anywere
[08:22] <star_prone> brb
[08:27] <fidel_> hi - shouldnt 14.04.1 be/get released today?
[08:27] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with Squid3 3.1.19 ?
[08:27] <DJones> fidel_: I suspect its out, when I connected to my server this morning, I got an update to 14.04 prompt
[08:28] <loctauxphilippe> fidel_, Yeah! I've tottaly forgoten!
[08:28] <loctauxphilippe> DJones, Thanks for the info!
[08:28] <fidel_> DJones: thanks
[08:28] <cfhowlett> fidel_ today is a 24 hour period ... patience
[08:29] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with Squid3 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503
[08:30] <helmut_> hi
[08:30] <okdamn> sorry , installing via CD ubuntu then i'll be able to update ubuntu version?
[08:31] <cfhowlett> okdamn yes that's how it works
[08:31] <okdamn> cfhowlett:  great thanks
[08:31] <loctauxphilippe> dexit, What is Squid ?
[08:31] <okdamn> cfhowlett:  do i just need to put the .iso on cd?
[08:31] <somsip> !info squid | loctauxphilippe
[08:32] <dexit> loctauxphilippe: squid3 http proxy
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !usb|okdamn ubuntu is too large for CD =
[08:32] <loctauxphilippe> dexit, Sorry I cant help you... ;-(
[08:32] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: i have an installer crash.... sending report to developers :!
[08:32] <ObrienDave> okdamn, burn ISO to DVD, you can't just copy the file
[08:32] <okdamn> ObrienDave:  ok great
[08:33] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with (http proxy) Squid 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503,
[08:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, damn, i think i have out partition issue figured out
[08:33] <ObrienDave> *our
[08:35] <Lost_x> maybe
[08:37] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, shall we try again?
[08:38] <Lost_x> we will try and try until we can perfect it :)
[08:38] <Lost_x> but i don't have more time now....
[08:38] <Lost_x> maybe 2morrow?
[08:39] <ObrienDave> ok, tomorrow is the last night until Monday, i work weekend nights
[08:39] <blueingress> Hi all, I do "sudo badblocks /dev/sda5", it gave me several numbers. does it mean there are many bad blocks on  the disk?
[08:39] <olivier_bK> how can i know who is the channel operator ?
[08:40] <svetlana> olivier_bK, this channel?
[08:40] <olivier_bK> no
[08:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it is 1:40am Thursday here. how about you?
[08:40] <svetlana> olivier_bK, ok. '/msg chanserv access #channel list'
[08:40] <olivier_bK> i going to try thanks men
[08:41] <Lost_x> its, 4:41pm thursday here
[08:41] <Lost_x> im sending you new pic
[08:41] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, where do you live? Oregon, USA here
[08:42] <kevr> ObrienDave: your last name is OBrien?
[08:42] <ObrienDave> kevr, no
[08:42] <kevr> oh.
[08:42] <bcvery> !ot
[08:43] <kevr> indeed
[08:43] <kevr> !guidelines