[18:51] <daftykins> just drop the d, since that's detach
[18:51] <daftykins> i'm sure there's more to it than that though
[18:52] <nbusrone> daftykins : I  change my brightness at Nvidia server setting - DFP0 - Color correction - Brightness and confirm to -30.But it get reset randomly and I need to open nvidia setting again . Using nvidia binary 352.21
[18:52] <Pendrag0n1> I am using screen for work, I use six monitors, I want to tail logs on other montiors, anywho, I have a bashrc shortcut "alias x='screen -x'" which works normally, but only once, once I am attached, I can't do it on other putty shells without detaching the other ones
[18:53] <daftykins> nbusrone: i have no idea why you would want to mess with those settings. at login, you need to auto run something like "nvidia-settings -l" to have it parse the values you've set.
[18:53] <Pendrag0n1> just trying to figure out if there is a way to attach anyways, without detaching the other ones, I mean, I know there is a way, I was just wondering if there was a shorter, one liner, so I can place it in my .screenrc or modify my bashrc alias
[18:53] <daftykins> or run the tool with gksu so you can write them permanently to your xorg.conf
[18:54] <EriC^^> Pendrag0n1: grab the multi id and pass it to screen -x
[18:55] <EriC^^> screen -x $(screen -list | grep awk whatever floats your boat)
[18:56] <nbusrone> daftykins : Nvidia already at the startup application command : sh -c '/usr/bin/nvidia-settings --load-config-only'
[18:57] <daftykins> nbusrone: then perhaps it's not working.
[18:57] <daftykins> nbusrone: but i did tell you more than one thing...
[18:57] <nbusrone> daftykins : yeh ? what would it be ?
[18:58] <daftykins> reboot and test it by running it manually as your user
[18:58] <daftykins> use your head :)
[18:58] <daftykins> still don't know why you use the graphics settings to adjust brightness - that's a monitor thing ¬_¬
[19:00] <nbusrone> daftykins : monitor ? sorry newbie to ubuntu. Maybe i try to update my driver and software kernel . Will report back again tomorrow :) thanks for the help :)
[19:01] <daftykins> nbusrone: yeah - the display, you change brightness there... not in the OS
[19:01] <soumya_> hi
[19:01] <nbusrone> daftykins : and it get reset randomly
[19:02] <daftykins> nbusrone: i'm talking about physical controls on your _monitor_
[19:02] <daftykins> i don't think you understand me
[19:06] <nbusrone> daftykins : sorry for the less understanding , you mean setting the monitor physical brightness rather than software ? becasue it's much easier to adjust the brightness when watching at a player rather than adjust physical on the monitor.
[19:07] <nbusrone> daftykins : will report back again tomorrow thanks for the help :) gtg
[19:12] <Alhe> does anyone know of any freeware that'll recover files from a damaged filesystem
[19:12] <EriC^^> yes
[19:13] <Unrelated> Hello.
[19:13] <bekks> Alhe: Which filesystem type?
[19:13] <user321> @Alhe i heard for testdisk, scalpel but you need to google about it
[19:14] <daftykins> !testdisk
[19:14] <daftykins> we need a factoid :>
[19:14] <Unrelated> When I use apt-get install (insert prog/app here) where does that program get installed to?
[19:14] <Alhe> bekks ntfs
[19:14] <daftykins> Unrelated: depends on the program.
[19:14] <AppAraat> hi everyone, has anyone here experimented or is using Kwin? I'm thinking of installing it in an Ubuntu 14.04 minimal VM to check it out. Would you consider Kwin to be stable to use on the desktop?
[19:14] <Alhe> user321 i'll look into that
[19:14] <user321> Unrelated: if instaled by user in /usr/bin i guess
[19:14] <Fuchs> AppAraat: standalone?
[19:14] <Unrelated> so there's no like, base directory where everything gets put into?
[19:15] <Fuchs> AppAraat: I mean ... most KDE users use it, daily
[19:15] <wileee> Unrelated, You got it, what is the interest?
[19:15] <Unrelated> For instance, I installed xchat and want to add a script to it.
[19:15] <AppAraat> Fuchs: yep standalone, I pretty much only need the Expo and Scale feature of the Cinnamon DE. I'm not exactly interested in other features of KDE also.
[19:15] <daftykins> Unrelated: you should use hexchat instead, i think xchat is ancient now
[19:16] <k1l_> Unrelated: scripts are going to be added into the .xchat folder in your home folder
[19:16] <Fuchs> AppAraat: well, it should work  *shrug*
[19:16] <Unrelated> okay, there is an .xchat folder in home?
[19:16] <Fuchs> AppAraat: maybe compiz will work better as it was more intended to be used stand alone, but then it isn't really maintained outside of unity any more, so ...
[19:16] <daftykins> Unrelated: if you want to locate a program path, then you can try "which xchat" in the terminal - but perhaps such programs support configs being placed in their user config folder? i.e. something like ~/.xchat/blah
[19:17] <k1l_> Unrelated: did you look for it?
[19:17] <user321> Unrelated: in moust programs that you want to add scipts its /home folder then in home folder you create or its created by itself .(dot hidden folder) that you need to put script in
[19:18] <Unrelated> I'm looking around now
[19:18] <Unrelated> it shows /usr/bin/xchat
[19:18] <Unrelated> when I pull up usr/bin there is no xchat folder.
[19:18] <k1l_> Unrelated: you dont add scripts to the program
[19:18] <daftykins> Unrelated: no because that's the binary
[19:18] <k1l_> Unrelated: we told you to look into your home folder.
[19:19] <Unrelated> so /home?
[19:19] <user321> Unrelated: if you want to delete binary or something you go in user/bin
[19:19] <k1l_> Unrelated: yes
[19:19] <Unrelated> nothing there. Also, thank you all for your help, I appreciate it.
[19:19] <user321> Unrelated: if you want to change something you mage file in your home folder like .xchatrc
[19:20] <AppAraat> Fuchs: hmm, that's interesting as well. Since it's being maintained for Unity that means that Ubuntu team is working on it, so integration should be more "harmonized". Can I use it standalone on an Ubuntu minimal install?
[19:20] <user321> Unrelated: or in moust likely .xchat folder add something
[19:20] <Unrelated> heh. So hexchat is better for irc chatting?
[19:20] <user321> Unrelated: hexchat is being updated by comunity
[19:20] <Fuchs> AppAraat: probably. Try installing it and running it with --replace to replace your current window manager.
[19:20] <k1l_> Unrelated: did you start xchat already?
[19:21] <user321> Unrelated: xcaht not
[19:21] <Fuchs> AppAraat: chances are that it is packaged in a way that has unwanted dependencies, mind  (but then kwin, the not-5 variant, does too. So if you want to use kwin standalone, use the Qt5 based one)
[19:21] <Unrelated> I'm using xchat now. It's how I am here.
[19:21] <user321> Unrelated: im trying thunderbirds chat
[19:21] <k1l_> Unrelated: so there is a .xhcat folder in your users home 100%
[19:21] <k1l_> *.xchat
[19:22] <Unrelated> how do I bring that folder up in the gui?
[19:22] <user321> Unrelated, k1l_: if you cannto see it press ctrl+h to unhide . folders
[19:22] <k1l_> have you enabled to view "hidden folders"?
[19:22] <Unrelated> I <3 you guys
[19:22] <k1l_> press ctrl+h if not.
[19:22] <daftykins> love isn't appropriate to being handed answers :P
[19:23] <k1l_> Unrelated: folders and files starting with a "." like ".xchat" are hidden by default.
[19:23] <Unrelated> it was the ctrl + h that I was missing.
[19:23] <user321> Unrelated: remeber adding something to programms in ubuntu is usualy by .rc file in home folder or . dot folder in home folder
[19:24] <Unrelated> there is a plugin that I wanted to add to xchat that allows me to right-click send/display my sys info.
[19:24] <user321> anyways anyone else using mozzilathunderbird for irc chat any expirience
[19:24] <varwachas> hello,I have just installed elementary-os on my ubuntu 14.04 to try out pantheon,But now I need to switch back
[19:24] <AppAraat> Fuchs: ah thanks for the heads-up there. One feature which I would love, but not sure if it is present in said WMs, is the ability to "tag" windows. So suppose you have a terminal window open which you solely use for monitoring or updating. You just tag the window "update" or "monitor". Then, when you want to switch to that window (from which ever workspace), simply enter the beginning of that window tag in
[19:24] <AppAraat> the search bar and switch to it.
[19:24] <Unrelated> and I didn't want the file just hanging out in a random folder, I wanted to put it in the xchat folder.
[19:25] <k1l_> Unrelated: there where you got that script, there should have been an README or howto install that script
[19:25] <Unrelated> which I couldn't find.
[19:25] <varwachas> Can anyone help? I just did purge, still it doesn't work
[19:25] <Fuchs> AppAraat: there are two features in kwin that match that, a bit
[19:26] <Fuchs> AppAraat: first of all, you can add a specific keybinding to a window in general
[19:26] <qkzoo1978> What's the best media center solution for ubuntu?  I had always heard xbmc, but thought I read somewhere that that project has been changed to something else.
[19:26] <k1l_> varwachas: "install elementary-os on my ubuntu"?
[19:26] <daftykins> varwachas: i don't think anything elementary is supported here o0
[19:26] <Fuchs> AppAraat: in addition to that, you could give that terminal a specific title (only works with programs that let the user edit the title, mind. Terminals do) and then use expose and the filter
[19:26] <daftykins> varwachas: did it come in via a PPA? try !ppapurge perhaps
[19:27] <varwachas> daftykins: Yes exactly, http://askubuntu.com/questions/642190/pantheon-elementary-desktop-not-completely-uninstalling-ubuntu-14-04
[19:27] <k1l_> varwachas: use ppa-purge to get rid of PPAs you dont want anymore
[19:27] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | varwachas
[19:27] <Unrelated> I will say this. Ubuntu has come a long way in the last decade.
[19:28] <Unrelated> I finally decided to make the switch from windows 2 days ago.
[19:28] <daftykins> Unrelated: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, support only here
[19:28] <Unrelated> Sorry.
[19:28] <qkzoo1978> Best media center app for linux..?
[19:28] <daftykins> qkzoo1978: for local file playback, or what?
[19:29] <AppAraat> Fuchs: ah that sounds like sufficient for my use case. I'll definitely do some research on this. Thank you!
[19:29] <qkzoo1978> daftykins: Think smart tv solution.
[19:30] <qkzoo1978> daftykins: streaming, local playback, the works.
[19:30] <k1l_> !kodi | qkzoo1978
[19:30] <qkzoo1978> Thanks k1l_, I'll check it out :)
[19:30] <k1l_> qkzoo1978: xbmc now known as kodi
[19:30] <daftykins> qkzoo1978: Kodi is as close as you're going to get, but it doesn't support streaming services like netflix and the like
[19:34] <royalex> hi! :)
[19:35] <varwachas> ubottu: I removed all the ppa's and did sudo update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:35] <k1l_> varwachas: no. did you use "ppa-purge" command or not?
[19:35] <varwachas> k1l_: Yes I did
[19:36] <royalex> do someone know a fater way to wipe an usb stick than dd? it's taking ages
[19:36] <Traumatizer> Hi Guys. I´ve coupled my TV through HDMI. But I want the sound to output on the TV as well. When I go to Sound Settings I can´t find my TV under Output Devices. Or is there another way to do this?
[19:36] <UbuntuFanForever> Hi
[19:36] <k1l_> varwachas: because if you did not you still got the packages in your system. just removing the PPA doesnt remove the packages. thats only done by the ppa-purge command
[19:36] <daftykins> Traumatizer: what graphics hardware?
[19:36] <UbuntuFanForever> i need help, Since i have Ubuntu installed now is it safe to put Windows 8.1 back in fast startup?
[19:37] <Traumatizer> Give me one second daftykins to look that up.
[19:37] <k1l_> UbuntuFanForever: you cant mount the windows partitions then afterwards.
[19:37] <varwachas> k1l_: sudo ppa-purge ppa:elementary-os this is what I tried
[19:37] <Traumatizer> daftykins ive got: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[19:37] <k1l_> varwachas: that is not going to work
[19:37] <UbuntuFanForever> kll_ I have a UEFI system.. Would i still be able to boot into windows if i do it? I wouldn't really want to access the windows partition on Ubuntu anyway :3
[19:38] <daftykins> Traumatizer: are you sure that's what you've got HDMI connected?
[19:38] <k1l_> varwachas: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin please
[19:38] <daftykins> Traumatizer: http://paste.ubuntu.com <-- put "lspci" there would be handy
[19:39] <UbuntuFanForever> is the Windows Key on the keyboard also the "Super" key?
[19:39] <Traumatizer> daftykins; http://paste.ubuntu.com/12033187/
[19:39] <k1l_> UbuntuFanForever: yes, on linux its called "super" key
[19:40] <UbuntuFanForever> yay
[19:40] <varwachas> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12033192/
[19:40] <daftykins> UbuntuFanForever: the super key is also the 'windows' key ;)
[19:40] <UbuntuFanForever> I'm about to ditch this computer in 2 years :D
[19:41] <daftykins> Traumatizer: and which ubuntu is this? "cat /etc/issue" or "lsb_release -d"
[19:41] <Traumatizer> 14.04.3 LTS
[19:41] <k1l_> varwachas: you didnt read how to use ppa-purge properly
[19:41] <Traumatizer> I replaced Unity by Xubuntu daftkins, but that shouldnt change anything i guess
[19:41] <UbuntuFanForever> I'm going to get a System76 computer with their payment month-to-month option.. i don't really need windows no more.. I can do everything i do on Ubuntu that i do in windows.. While Windows is now spying on people with windows 10.. o_o
[19:41] <menace> can someone recommend a image shower like irfanview, but for ubuntu?
[19:42] <royalex> do someone know a fater way to wipe an usb stick than dd? it's taking ages
[19:42] <k1l_> varwachas: sudo ppa-purge ppa:elementary-os/daily
[19:42] <daftykins> Traumatizer: hrmm, i'm surprised that a 965 even *has* HDMI, so no idea what's up there i'm afraid - likely xfce lacking in configurability perhaps
[19:42] <k1l_> varwachas: put that into a pastebin please again
[19:42] <menace> royalex: wipefs
[19:42] <daftykins> royalex: wipe? you don't need to write to the whole thing to get it blanked.
[19:42] <Traumatizer> Hmm that sucks.
[19:42] <Traumatizer> So basically nothing I can do daftykins?
[19:42] <royalex> menace: it will wipe byte of data or it just dereference it?
[19:43] <daftykins> Traumatizer: i'm sure someone that knows audio better might have an idea, i don't know my feet from my face when it comes to it :)
[19:43] <daftykins> Traumatizer: i was just checking for the easy bit, like driver
[19:43] <menace> royalex: sorry, did just look, it's the wrong program
[19:43] <royalex> ok thanks anyway :)
[19:43] <Traumatizer> Okay, can I like file a bug report or something? Or request for hwardre support, something like that
[19:44] <royalex> daftykins: well.. actually i need a REAL wipe since i have a REALLY sensitive data on there
[19:44] <daftykins> Traumatizer: well it might just need configuring
[19:44] <varwachas> k1l_: sorry, here is the pastebin link http://paste.ubuntu.com/12033225/
[19:44] <daftykins> royalex: then no, a good 'dd' zero fill at least twice is the order of the day
[19:44] <Traumatizer> Imma google around a bit somre more than
[19:45] <daftykins> Traumatizer: if you play around with "aplay -l" and "aplay -L" in the terminal it should show up the device at least :)
[19:45] <royalex> daftykins: oh ok... i just wondered cause it is taking AGES
[19:46] <k1l_> varwachas: how did you disable that PPA?
[19:46] <royalex> daftykins: it's writing like at 130 kbps
[19:46] <daftykins> royalex: then it's either a rubbish drive or there's a config issue, are you checking with kill -USR1?
[19:47] <royalex> yup wit sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)
[19:47] <daftykins> mmhmm, not seen a flash drive go that bad
[19:47] <varwachas> k1l_: I removed that PPA via add-apt-repository ppa:elementary-os
[19:47] <daftykins> check dmesg | tail for any errors perhaps, royalex
[19:47] <k1l_> varwachas: ok, please add it again
[19:48] <k1l_> varwachas: when you added it again, we can use ppa-purge to properly remove it
[19:49] <royalex> ok wait i have log in to anoter cli
[19:49] <Traumatizer> Ah daftykins I fixed it.
[19:50] <daftykins> \o/
[19:50] <Traumatizer> Through alsamixer I could unmute the S/PDIF channel and than pulse audio configuration allowed me to select my TV as output
[19:50] <daftykins> ah-har
[19:50] <daftykins> didn't think it would be that easy
[19:53] <varwachas> k1l_: Done that, what next http://paste.ubuntu.com/12033297/
[19:54] <oal> I don't know if this is a Gnome question or Ubuntu question: Everything on my computer is lagging. Typing in text fields in Firefox, flash videos, typing in intellij idea. Any suggestions?
[19:54] <k1l_> varwachas: ok, so now after a reboot that should have removed everything
[19:58] <varwachas_> k1l_: I have just rebooted but the User Interface isn't the same as before especially the bar above, icons and mouse pointer
[19:58] <k1l_> varwachas_: is it another theme?
[19:59] <varwachas_> k1l_: Dont know, kindly have a look http://imgur.com/BISOWi0
[20:00] <k1l_> varwachas_: ok. so there is still some settings that were changed by the PPA packages.
[20:01] <daftykins> oal: there's one very simple thing worth checking - do you use a mechanical hard disk? is this a laptop or desktop?
[20:01] <varwachas_> k1l_: So what should I do to get back to the original Unity Shell Interface that comes with Ubuntu?
[20:01] <k1l_> varwachas_: try a "unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity"
[20:01] <oal> daftykins, I run Ubuntu off an SSD, but I have a mechanical hard disk installed as well
[20:01] <oal> It's only used for file storage though. No apps run off it
[20:01] <daftykins> oal: ah ok, so not even your /home ?
[20:02] <k1l_> varwachas_: if that doesnt help after a relogin try that answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults
[20:02] <oal> daftykins, nope
[20:02] <daftykins> oal: ok not much point checking the health of your HDD then, hmm. how's your RAM usage going?
[20:02] <utuna> Howdy all
[20:03] <JustSighDudes> oal, I have that same problem sometimes. I have no idea what causes it.
[20:03] <oal> daftykins, 1.9 / 15.6 GiB according to the system monitor
[20:03] <daftykins> :)
[20:03] <daftykins> ok, probably more a gnome thing then - never used it
[20:04] <oal> CPU usage is all over the place...
[20:04] <royalex> sorry i was talking to one of you but i don't remember who :D
[20:05] <royalex> daftykins: i was talking with you before right? i forgot the nick i was talking to
[20:05] <daftykins> royalex: the queries matter, not the who :)
[20:06] <royalex> you know... i had some "problem" with the battery... or better say it was all my fault
[20:06] <varwachas> k1l_: unity tweak command didn't work out
[20:07] <k1l_> varwachas: that is one of the big issues with that messy PPAs. they change a lot of stuff and its not reverted on remove.
[20:07] <nmatrix9> Is there a updated wacom control panel GUI for the latest versions of Ubuntu?
[20:08] <k1l_> varwachas: "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*"
[20:09] <varwachas> k1l_: executed that , what next?
[20:09] <k1l_> varwachas: relogin
[20:09] <mixxit> hey guys
[20:09] <mixxit> im having trouble booting ubuntu server and wondered if anyone can help
[20:10] <mixxit> 14.04.2
[20:10] <daftykins> !details | mixxit
[20:10] <k1l_> mixxit: depends on the exact error
[20:10] <mixxit> its not getting to grub unless i manually choose to select boot device in bios
[20:10] <varwachas_> k1l_: no use
[20:10] <k1l_> mixxit: so write the grub into the MBR of the first HHD that gets booted?
[20:10] <LongFeng> The earth king has invited you to lake Laogai.
[20:10] <Caerdwyn> Quick question for anyone here... why do the icons in the unity status bar sometimes become transparent, as if they're hidden behind the bar? I can't click on them or interact with them in any way, and at times when I kill the program that makes the icon and relaunch it, the ghosted icon vanishes, then reappears transparent again...
[20:11] <mixxit> is that update-grub?
[20:11] <k1l_> mixxit: no, that is grub-install
[20:11] <mixxit> ok
[20:11] <varwachas_> k1l_: still the same, my terminal is also still the same, shortcuts aren't working also
[20:11] <k1l_> varwachas_: is it ok on another user account or guest account?
[20:13] <utuna> Hello mixxit
[20:13] <varwachas__> k1l_: Even guest has the user interface all messed up
[20:14] <k1l_> varwachas__: that reminds me again why i hate all that ubuntu spinoff messes
[20:14] <Caerdwyn> for anyone wondering what i mean, http://i.imgur.com/3mtKTLa.png
[20:14] <varwachas__> k1l_: Even I feel the same now
[20:15] <varwachas__> k1l_: So is there any other way of getting back other than a reinstall(loss of data)
[20:16] <joe4> I can't seem to get the gnome terminal session preferences to open up, any thoughts?
[20:16] <pauljw> Caerdwyn, I can't answer to why this happens, but I have encountered the same on my system.  For me, if I switch to a different virtual desktop and back again, the icons return to normal.
[20:16] <k1l_> varwachas__: hmm. you could dig into all the gnome settings and libs stuff where the elementary stuff did the changes. but i am not aware of what they all changed
[20:16] <Caerdwyn> pauljw: virtual desktop meaning another workspace, or to a tty and back?
[20:17] <pauljw> Caerdwyn, another workspace
[20:17] <k1l_> varwachas__: as my last idea: open unity-tweak-tool and set the themes and panel things manually. if that doesnt work i dont know what to do.
[20:17] <Caerdwyn> pauljw: alrighty, thanks... much appreciated!
[20:17] <pauljw> np
[20:17]  * k1l_ needs to leave for a bit now anyway
[20:17] <mixxit> ok did that
[20:17] <mixxit> but its still going to network boot
[20:18] <utuna> Be well k1l_
[20:19] <Caerdwyn> pauljw: tried that, the icon only appears for a split second when the actual workspace switch occurs, then immediately disappears/becomes transparent again :\
[20:19] <zippo^> who does use with Gnome Classic?
[20:19] <zippo^> How can I add icon and menu of Thunderbird in menu (alacarte) ?
[20:20] <zippo^> after I have downloaded and installed Thunderbird of the officiaĺ Mozilla
[20:20] <pauljw> Caerdwyn, hmmm.  Don't know what to tell you.  Wish I knew what caused it myself.
[20:21] <Caerdwyn> In this particular case, it's TeamViewer running that has its icon hidden, but I've also seen it happen with other things like Skype, PS3 Media Server, even Synergy, it's so weird.
[20:22] <wileee> zippo^, What happened to the ubuntu thunderbird?
[20:22] <zippo^> a wait, i make a screenshot, wileee
[20:22] <wileee> zippo^, No I asked a question
[20:23] <royalex> daftykins: i resolved tweaking the buffer size, thanks for the help you gave me :)
[20:23] <pauljw> Caerdwyn, it is a weird problem, on my system, the entire launch bar  goes opaque, looks like a program screen would look if the system was working on something for a time.
[20:24] <Caerdwyn> pauljw: the only thing I've even changed on my install related to unity, was downloading the unity tweak tool and setting the transparency of the bar to 100%...think that might have something to do with it maybe?
[20:25] <pauljw> Caerdwyn, is that when it started?  Try changing back to your original settings.
[20:25] <Caerdwyn> I take that back... changing the transparency back to default makes the icon that is "transparent" vanish completely; it becomes obscured by the panel itself
[20:25] <zippo^> wileee, http://picpaste.com/pics/Schermafdruk_van_2015-08-08_22_22_22-WOQLZmGd.1439065524.png
[20:25] <Caerdwyn> pauljw: no, this has been happening for a while now, even when I was on 12.04... I'm on 14.04.2 now and it still does it
[20:25] <zippo^> I did add icon, then I did OK, later was he removed
[20:26] <pauljw> Caerdwyn, i see.
[20:26] <wileee> zippo^, What happened to the ubuntu thunderbird?
[20:26] <zippo^> I did Thunderbird in /opt/thunderbird and icon ia /opt/thunderbird/icons, etc.
[20:26] <zippo^> I cannot move thunderbird to another menu and cannot add icon, wileee
[20:27] <wileee> zippo^, What happened to the ubuntu thunderbird?
[20:27] <zippo^> what mean you?
[20:27] <markoo_> Hello I'm trying to use terminator terminal. How do I get to split it into two tabs (vertically) by command line?
[20:27] <k1l_> he did manually install thunderbird
[20:27] <wileee> yes, just trying to get what happened
[20:27] <Caerdwyn> pauljw: turning transparency to 100% and background blur off in tweak tool make the icon visible in the panel, but isn't able to be interacted with, it looks like it's just hiding behind it
[20:28] <Caerdwyn> makes*
[20:28] <zippo^> than is he removed
[20:28] <zippo^> "icon"
[20:28] <zippo^> and I cannot move item thunderbird to another menu example INTERNET
[20:28] <ubuntu681> How to upgrade libimobiledevice to 1.2.0 to support ios 8.4 ?
[20:28] <k1l_> zippo^: see if the thunderbird ships a icon for you
[20:28] <markoo_> If this is not possible directly, what do you suggest me?
[20:28] <wileee> zippo^, This your computer? Do you know what has happened?
[20:28] <k1l_> ubuntu681: on what ubuntu?
[20:28] <zippo^> nothing, normal. I can open thunderbird
[20:29] <zippo^> but problem with alacrta
[20:29] <john_doe_jr> I see that httpd is running and I need to kill it…I kill it but it spawns back…how do I figure out what program is running this?
[20:29] <ubuntu681> 14.04.3 LTS
[20:29] <brabbit> What is the best email client unlike thunderbird without addons?
[20:30] <zippo^> webmail, brabbit
[20:30] <Fuchs> john_doe_jr: pstree could list the parent, my guess is: an init script or something like monit
[20:30] <Fuchs> john_doe_jr: if you didn't install anything special, apache is the likely candidate
[20:30] <k1l_> ubuntu681: you will need to find a PPA with a higher version
[20:31] <ubuntu681> there is a .tar.bz2 package in the website, but i don't know how to install it.
[20:32] <john_doe_jr> Fuchs: I know it's apache but I just don't know what program is running it
[20:33] <Fuchs> as said, either it is started to respawn, then use the init script (as you should) to stop it
[20:33] <k1l_> ubuntu681: it ships a README which explains. but you are on your own then with that
[20:33] <Fuchs> if not, there might be something like monit running which restarts it
[20:33] <xangua> !compile | ubuntu681
[20:34] <janisozaur> hi
[20:34] <janisozaur> how do i install 32 bit sdl2 on 64-bit 15.04 ubuntu?
[20:35] <Acer> Hi, I need I bootlable flash drive. Any recommendations on wich software to use?
[20:35] <xangua> !usb | Acer
[20:35] <janisozaur> !usb-creator-gtk | Acer
[20:36] <janisozaur> !info usb-creator-gtk | Acer
[20:37] <ubuntu681> Is there an alternative easier way to install it other than compiling ?
[20:37] <bekks> ubuntu681: When having a tarball containg the sources only - no.
[20:39] <xangua> ubuntu681: keep up with latest Ubuntu releases, don't upgrade iOS unlessyou know it's supported, stop using iOS devices
[20:39] <minimec> ubuntu681: there's a guide here... http://askubuntu.com/questions/598940/libimobiledevice-1-2-ios-8-support-for-ubuntu-14-04-trusty
[20:39] <bprompt> ubuntu681:    you could try checking around at www.rpmseek.com or www.rpmfind.com , it has .deb as well as rpm packages precompiled, for many packages and libs
[20:40] <bprompt> ubuntu681:    but if all you have is the source, then you'd have to give it to the compiler, that's what the compilier is for
[20:41] <zippo^> Why cannot I move item or folder to another menu via alaracte ?
[20:43] <ubuntu681> you guys are great! this is why ubuntu is the best os ...
[20:43] <ubuntu681> Thnaks
[20:45] <stevecoh1> having trouble with update-grub.  I run it to add the newly installed <IP_ADDRESS> kernel.  output is at http://pastebin.com/Mz37FRg4.   It indicates that version 3.13.0-61 was found.  Yet it's doesn't get ouptut to /boot/grub/menu.lst.  Why not?
[20:45] <Dusti[n]> Hello im was upgrading to 15.04 and now it stalls at "starting light display manager" any ideas?
[20:47] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: laptop/desktop ? what graphics hardware? upgraded from what?
[20:49] <Dusti[n]> Desktop nvidia and 14.10 i think
[20:49] <stevecoh1> anyone here know anything about grub?
[20:50] <YamakasY> is anyone authing samba shares against freeipa ? as this is "impossible" it seems
[20:51] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: are you using grub1?
[20:51] <Dusti[n]> When typing apt upgrade it says 2 packages will not be changed
[20:51] <bekks> Dusti[n]: So use apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:53] <zippo^> wileee, why cannot I edit or add etc. of the alacrate?
[20:54] <stevecoh1> eric^^ how do I tell what version of grub I'm using?
[20:54] <EriC^^> grub -V
[20:55] <EriC^^> or dpkg -l | grep grub
[20:56] <stevecoh1> gnu grub 0.97
[20:56] <Dusti[n]> Bekks: it says 2 packages have been kept back libgbm1 xorg
[20:56] <Dusti[n]> Those 2 not upgraded
[20:57] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: why aren't you using grub2?
[20:57] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version do you have?
[20:57] <k1l_> Dusti[n]: run "apt full-upgrade"
[20:58] <stevecoh1> I may be
[20:58] <Dusti[n]> Same out come k1l_
[20:59] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: type cat /etc/issue
[21:00] <stevecoh1> see http://pastebin.com/eFw914KF
[21:00] <stevecoh1> that his dpkg output
[21:00] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: type sudo parted -l
[21:00] <EriC^^> looks like you had grub-efi installed
[21:01] <EriC^^> you have grub1 right now, which is very old
[21:01] <trism> Dusti[n]: can you pastebin: apt-cache policy libgbm1 xorg;
[21:02] <stevecoh1> ok, eric, I didn't have grub installed at all until I developed this kernel problem several months ago.  I installed grub, and this is what I got.
[21:02] <stevecoh1> my machine is 64-bit
[21:03] <stevecoh1> What should I do about this?  I am trying to solve a simple problem and keep getting deeper and deeper into trouble.
[21:04] <stevecoh1> why does dpkg show 3 different grubs installed?
[21:04] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link here
[21:05] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: the grub-efi is removed and just has the config files
[21:05] <EriC^^> you have grub cause i think you used sudo apt-get install grub to install it ( should have used grub-pc )
[21:05] <EriC^^> grub-common are just the common files,
[21:05] <TJ-> (or grub2)
[21:05] <Dusti[n]> Im on my phone so that might be hard ill try and give you the jist of it
[21:06] <stevecoh1> $ sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:06] <stevecoh1> [sudo] password for scohen:
[21:06] <stevecoh1> http://termbin.com/1ab3
[21:06] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: ok, well you're using uefi, so you need to install grub-efi , sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[21:06] <skinofstars> hey gang. i'm trying to make a .sh script run in terminal with a double click, but the terminal isn't available in the file's properties
[21:07] <stevecoh1> will this automatically pick up all the installed kernels?
[21:07] <EriC^^> yes
[21:07] <TJ-> skinofstars: Because it is a shell script not a terminal script... shell scripts (.sh) are executed by sh/dash; or .bash scripts by bash
[21:08] <skinofstars> TJ-: fine, but at the moment it opens in gedit
[21:09] <Dusti[n]> It looks like its still looking at vivid packages
[21:09] <undisclosed> please recommend a command line way of setting the time and timezone
[21:09] <EriC^^> skinofstars: you can create a .desktop file to run it in a terminal, or you'd have to set your filemanager to execute on double click but that would be for all
[21:10] <stevecoh1> my problem is that 3.13.0-46 works, 3.13.0-48 is no good, and 3.13.0-61 is what I want to test.  I don't want to blow away my existing configuration unless I am sure I can get back to 46 if necessary.  will installing grub-efi insure that I will be able to do that?
[21:11] <skinofstars> EriC^^: hmm, ok, i'll google that. thanks
[21:11] <k1l_> Dusti[n]: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[21:11] <TJ-> skinofstars: that is probably because gedit has been configured as the default application for that file extension, or that mime type
[21:11] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: yes, more so your current setup will not boot
[21:11] <Dusti[n]> 15.04
[21:12] <user1254> undisclosed: have a look at timedatectl
[21:12] <therofluser> where is ubuntu one on ubuntu 15.04 ?
[21:12] <stevecoh1> eric^^, so this is safe?  I have to be able to get back to 46 if necessary
[21:12] <EriC^^> -.-
[21:13] <EriC^^> yes
[21:13] <undisclosed> user1254, thanks, but it is the recommended way or simply one of the 5-6 ways? :)
[21:13] <stevecoh1> and how does it work?  Presently I have to type escape repeatedly after booting to see the grub screen.  Will that still work?
[21:13] <Dusti[n]> All my repositories are vivids
[21:13] <Dusti[n]> Though
[21:14] <EriC^^> stevecoh1: you hold shift to get grub
[21:14] <stevecoh1> ok, cool, will give it a try.
[21:14] <stevecoh1> thank you  very much Eric^^
[21:14] <EriC^^> no problem
[21:14] <k1l_> therofluser: the data sync service is gone
[21:15] <SuperLag> We're using Centrify and it has it's own modified libsmbclient. How do I make other packages that require Ubuntu's stock libsmbclient use the Centrify one instead, so those packages will install?
[21:15] <user1254> undisclosed: depends on what you think of as recommended way. for me i think its the easiest. also 'recommended' way for archlinux
[21:16] <SuperLag> because when I try to install gvfs-backends, it says it depends on libsmbclient, and that won't install because it conflicts with the version Centrify provides
[21:16] <undisclosed> user1254, thanks
[21:16] <Dusti[n]> Sorry i got dc
[21:18] <TJ-> SuperLag: Best solution there is to install Centrify's tools and libraries under the /usr/local/ prefix ... then they will take precedence but the Ubuntu standard packages can still install/upgrade without complaining
[21:19] <Dusti[n]> Anyidea why my repositories are vivid when im on 15.04? Thats not right is it?
[21:19] <k1l_> Dusti[n]: 15.04 is vivid
[21:19] <bekks> Dusti[n]: Why not? :)
[21:19] <_Trullo> vivid.com
[21:19] <Dusti[n]> Oh
[21:20] <Dusti[n]> Well wth is wrong with my computer
[21:20] <bekks> Why do you thing there is something wrong at all?
[21:20] <k1l_> Dusti[n]: pastebin a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" to a pastebinit please
[21:21] <Dusti[n]> It basicly  will not boot into graphics mode
[21:21] <k1l_> Dusti[n]: so can you run the upgrade in tty1?
[21:22] <k1l_> Dusti[n]: then: what video card is it and what driver is installed?
[21:22] <alander_> :D
[21:22] <brenobelem> alander_: :*
[21:22] <brenobelem> Aldenice_: :*
[21:22] <Aldenice_> :)
[21:23] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: ah you replied to me about this but didn't include my nickname so i head no idea you had done.
[21:23] <alander_> ;D
[21:23] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: what do you get when you boot?
[21:23] <k1l_> alander_: Aldenice_ brenobelem this is the ubuntu support channel. please stick to ubuntu support in here. for testing there is ##test and for chat ##chat
[21:24] <brenobelem> k1l_: I know that.
[21:24] <Dusti[n]> Sorry im on my cellphone trying to irc and its aggravating
[21:24] <brenobelem> k1l_: I'm not testing anyting, I'm just showing them the support channels.
[21:24] <SuperLag> TJ-: looks like they get put in /opt/centrify
[21:25] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: so what led to this? was it a clean 15.04 install or did you upgrade to it?
[21:25] <daftykins> an upgrade you said, ok
[21:25] <Dusti[n]> Last thing it says daftykins is starting light display manager
[21:26] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: ok and can you get a command line login by pressing ctrl+alt+F1, F2 or so on?
[21:26] <Dusti[n]> Yes
[21:27] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: ok log in and run "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " (taking note of the * after nvidia there) then reboot
[21:27] <Dusti[n]> K
[21:29] <Dusti[n]> Daftykins it says 302mb will be removed i hit yes
[21:29] <daftykins> ok
[21:30] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: take note of what number driver it kills if you see it, nvidia-###
[21:30] <daftykins> version number that is, naturally
[21:32] <Dusti[n]> Hum i wanna say it was 321
[21:32] <daftykins> 331 perhaps, no bother
[21:32] <Dusti[n]> On the reboot i just have a blanke screen
[21:32] <daftykins> do you know which card you have?
[21:33] <daftykins> log in in the same way if not, then type "lspci"
[21:34] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers list # or autoinstall :-)
[21:34] <daftykins> yip that could work
[21:34] <Dusti[n]> No not right off
[21:35] <ISK> how's it going?
[21:35] <daftykins> ISK: support only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:37] <Dusti[n]> Ok its installing 346
[21:37] <daftykins> ok, pay attention to the module build and check it shows no obvious errors
[21:38] <ISK> daftykins: I'm here to serve too, but thanks for advice ;)
[21:38] <daftykins> then just a reboot after would do
[21:38] <Dusti[n]> I did the autoinstall like oerheks said
[21:38] <daftykins> fair enough :>
[21:39] <Dusti[n]> Ty very much ill let ya know how it comes out
[21:39] <OerHeks> :-)
[21:40] <plastic> hello
[21:43] <Dusti[n]> Still no  desktop just term
[21:44] <daftykins> but not hanging on the same lightdm error this time?
[21:44] <Dusti[n]> Nope
[21:44] <daftykins> well that's different
[21:44] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: does your desktop get an internet connection via wired?
[21:45] <Dusti[n]> Wireless
[21:45] <daftykins> hrmm and yet it managed to get a driver before
[21:45] <daftykins> i wonder if it was just in cache
[21:45] <Dorf> i'm trying to dual boot ubuntu with win 10 on an SSD.  I cleared a partition for Ubuntu and formatted it as ext4.  I'm at the install screen and it's been hung at "Preparing to install ubuntu..." for 10 minutes.  This has been going on all morning.  Any ideas
[21:45] <Dorf> ?
[21:46] <daftykins> Dusti[n]: are you online if you log in at the TTY and try "ping google.com" ? ctrl+C to stop
[21:46] <daftykins> Dorf: there was no point preparing that partition beforehand really
[21:46] <Dusti[n]> Wait its hung back up there
[21:46] <daftykins> hung?
[21:47] <Dorf> daftykins: it was a last ditch effort.  i've tried everything i could think of or read on the forums
[21:47] <daftykins> Dorf: which version are you trying to put on?
[21:49] <Dorf> 14.04 x64 via unetbootin
[21:49] <daftykins> Dorf: and was 10 installed EFI, or legacy?
[21:50] <Dorf> let me check
[21:51] <Dorf> UEFI
[21:52] <daftykins> so are you booting ubuntu in EFI mode?
[21:52] <daftykins> !efi | Dorf for more info to check
[21:52] <Dorf> i don't know.
[21:52] <daftykins> essentially you should be seeing the white text on black background style boot menu
[21:52] <Dorf> like grub?
[21:53] <daftykins> read the link ;)
[21:54] <Dorf> yes... that's what i see
[21:54] <daftykins> and what kind of system is this?
[21:55] <Dorf> in what regards?
[21:55] <daftykins> desktop/laptop/cauliflower
[21:55] <Dorf> laptop
[21:55] <daftykins> what kind?
[21:55] <Dorf> asus g751
[21:56] <daftykins> good lord
[21:56] <daftykins> so don't you think it'd make more sense to run the OS it's designed for? if you're really after 'mobile' gaming?
[21:58] <x4w3> i have properly configurated icecast2 + jack +idjc and now i can listen to a film...
[21:58] <Dorf> that's why i'm dual booting.  regardless of what you think makes more sense, i want a linux distro.  if you are unable to help, fine, i understand that nobody has all the answers, but i didn't come here for lectures on what people think i should and should not have on my laptop.
[21:58] <x4w3> :( alsa and alsamixer is ok, and test run but daemons like vlc no
[21:59] <daftykins> Dorf: it was just a question, no need for the defensive response
[21:59] <Dorf> sorry, but what baring does it have on if/how you can help me?
[22:00] <TJ-> Dorf: did you start the installer from the "Try Ubuntu" option and launch the installer from the desktop icon?
[22:00] <NilePrince> Hello
[22:00] <daftykins> because understanding what you hope to achieve with this system could help in how to make use of it better
[22:00] <NilePrince> Helpp Please
[22:00] <x4w3> do someone how recover my sound? after configurate icecast i lose it
[22:00] <Dorf> i've tried both with the same result TJ-
[22:00] <daftykins> Dorf: so for example, i think if you want to game with it or have it run best - LTS probably isn't the best choice for such hardware.
[22:00] <NilePrince> bored system :D
[22:00] <TJ-> Dorf: No, I mean right now
[22:00] <NilePrince> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/wallch/3+/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:00] <NilePrince> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[22:01] <daftykins> NilePrince: your PPA is probably dead, that's not official so we can't help - maybe find a new one
[22:01] <Dorf> daftykins: i'm a web developer.  i like to develop in linux.  i have a large steam library and most games don't run in linux.  i want to boot into linux for work and windows for play
[22:02] <Dorf> TJ-: i have tried both and both ways result the same way.  right now i am not trying to install because i can't get past the preparing to install screen no matter what i do
[22:02] <daftykins> Dorf: ok and what are the two letters after G751 on your model?
[22:02] <NilePrince> this for update
[22:02] <Dorf> JL
[22:02] <TJ-> Dorf: I was hoping you would say yes; when you use the "Try Ubuntu" live environment we can get easy access to the log-files to find out why it's hung up
[22:03] <daftykins> Dorf: like TJ- 's getting at, i'd recommend you boot into 'try' to get further info
[22:03] <daftykins> but i still think 14.04 is less ideal for a system like that
[22:03] <x4w3> please i have no sound in ubuntu, and speaker test run ok
[22:04] <Dorf> what version would you recommend?
[22:04] <TJ-> Dorf: There are 2 sets of log files... the 'try' environment and it's "/var/log/" directory, and the installation "/target/var/log/" which is a chroot where the installation is done. I use "ls -latr <dir>" to list the most recently changed logs last, and then check them out for clues as to what happened most recently
[22:05] <daftykins> Dorf: 15.04 is the only other supported release currently out
[22:05] <koko__> ist
[22:05] <daftykins> Dorf: i think TJ- is up for the challenge though so maybe see how you go first :>
[22:05] <TJ-> Dorf: The "debian-installer" keeps quite extensive logs of every step it takes, as does "apt" ... I seem to recall they both create sub-dirs of var/log/
[22:06] <TJ-> daftykins: Dorf Actually I'd recommend installing the LTS, and then if there are any hardware issues (newer drivers required) use the HardWare Enablement stack on top
[22:06] <Dorf> i've found a detailed set of instructions for my model
[22:07] <daftykins> *nod* fair enough
[22:07] <Dorf> i'm going to attempt that
[22:07] <TJ-> Dorf: Installing an LTS means you don't have to upgrade (15.04) in a few months when its support ends, after 15.10 is released
[22:07] <Dorf> i don't remember it being this difficult when i put it on my desktop
[22:08] <TJ-> Dorf: Unlike Windows, Almost everything in Linux *logs* extensively, or can be told to do so, and those system logs are always under /var/log/
[22:09] <x4w3> i recover it with pavucontrol, i dont know why, alsa something strange...
[22:09] <TJ-> Dorf: notebooks/laptops/small devices often have more proprietary hardware and kludges which the manufacturers don't provide to the Linux ecosystem, so we're often playing catch-up as owners of those devices hit bugs and figure out causes and workarounds/fixes
[22:09] <akade> why the system that ubuntu uses to recognize other OS in the installation is different from other distros?
[22:10] <TJ-> akade: As far as I know os-prober is used to detect other installations
[22:11]  * zykotick9 would think ubuntu's grub/os-prober would be pretty up-to-date in the debian-based world...
[22:12] <akade> Ubuntu is the only one that doesn't recognize windows partition, I don't have a logical partition, maybe it's the problem?
[22:12] <Nectar> Anyone know any good software (which will work with gnome) to display email notifications in the top menu?
[22:15] <zykotick9> akade: sorry, i personally don't care about windows partition recognition at all...  but i wouldn't think primary vs logical/extended would make much of a difference, at least with DOS-MBR...  (U)EFI <- and all bets are OFF for me ;)
[22:15] <Dorf> i'm really close to just saying to heck with it and booting into a VM
[22:15] <akade> i give up with the actual installation system, someone tried to make a manual installation without /swap and /home partition, only using the main /, it can be done?
[22:15] <akade> thanks for the replys
[22:16] <daftykins> akade: yes
[22:16] <daftykins> swap isn't /swap ;)
[22:19] <akade> what do you mean?
[22:19] <skinux> Quick question. Ubuntu out-of-the-box gives access to Windows drive/partition as long as it has been selected in file browser. What shell command can be used in place of double-clicking in file browser to open access to pre-mounted partitions?
[22:19] <daftykins> akade: nevermind. anyway Ubuntu recognises Windows fine as long as you boot into the correct mode, same as how Windows was installed. what did you mean by not logical partition for Windows?
[22:20] <daftykins> skinux: they're not mounted until clicked on
[22:20] <daftykins> skinux: so they're not pre-mounted, you would use 'mount' ;)
[22:20] <skinux> I know. But, I assume the action taken upon click can be done via a shell command as well?
[22:20] <TJ-> skinux: "mount" will show you where mounted file-systems are in the directory hierarchy. udisks usually does user mounts, and they are under /media/${USER}/
[22:21] <TJ-> skinux: Yes, you can use "udiskscontrol mount --block-device /dev/sdX5"
[22:21] <daftykins> not much benefit to just doing it manually :>
[22:21] <zykotick9> skinux: "sudo mount /dev/sdX# /mnt" (replace X and #) with correct values... then find it in /mnt
[22:21] <TJ-> skinux: Typo "udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/sdX5"
[22:21] <Shed-34046> If i boot into Windows and turn on fast startup again will i be able to boot back into windows and Ubuntu whenever? I don't really want to mount the windows partition while on ubuntu :3
[22:22] <skinux> What is the exact command being run when clicking in file browser??
[22:22] <Shed-34046> nautilus is the filemanager i think?
[22:22] <akade> no, it matters, I want to know more, I have installed many distros and I always rebuild the boot with windows cd, now with all the windows insider updates and other stuff...  windows have the whole disk and it have all the tags
[22:22] <TJ-> skinux: the file browser calls the udisks daemon via the udisks library
[22:22] <skinux> In this case Nautilus is file browser, however, I'm considering trying out some other file browsers.
[22:22] <TJ-> skinux: In the shell you do the same thing with "udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/sdX5"
[22:22] <zykotick9> skinux: the gui browsers use mount, but they do it dynamically into /media i think...  i haven't used nautilus/etc in years...
[22:23] <Shed-34046> Anybody would i still be able to boot into windows and ubuntu if i turn on the fast startup again?
[22:23] <TJ-> zykotick9: ^^^ they use udisksd ^^^
[22:24] <zykotick9> TJ-: and what does udiskd use?  or is that systemd's mount?
[22:24] <user1254> Shed-34046: you can boot to ubuntu when fast startup is active in windows but you can't mount the ntfs/windows drives
[22:24] <Shed-34046> ok :)
[22:29] <akade> so, why ubuntu doesn't recognize windows?
[22:29] <daftykins> !efi | akade check you're starting it properly
[22:34] <akade> and in non-uefi bios?
[22:34] <janisozaur> is it possible to install 32 bit packages without removing their 64 bit counterparts?
[22:36] <Guest63328> Hello guys, I'm having a pretty big problem that's messing up my whole system. Synaptic package manager won't load anything, update manager isn't loading anything, and I can't install any packages whatsoever
[22:36] <Guest63328> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repo.steampowered.com_steam_dists_precise_steam_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. is the error I receive with the update manager
[22:37] <wileee> Guest63328, Close them all open a terminal and run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it including the commands
[22:37] <Guest63328> I'm a bit of a liinux noob, what is pastebin?
[22:37] <wileee> !pastebin | Guest63328
[22:39] <TJ-> janisozaur: Yes, enable multi-libs by adding the foreign architecture: "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[22:40] <Guest63328> okay Wileee, I put both of those into the terminal. Now, what did you want me to do? Sorry if I'm being annoying.
[22:41] <Shed-34046> How do i contribute to the Ubuntu community like help improve it?
[22:41] <Guest63328> you wanted me to pastebin....like, use ubuntu pastebib?
[22:41] <wileee> Guest63328, Actually I have another command, just run this and paste all of it, grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/} cli look at  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:41] <janisozaur> TJ-, that doesn't seem to help me. I'm trying to install 32 bit sdl2-dev, which has unmet dependencies. When trying to figure out what's wrong, it appears that libxkbcommon-dev:i386 is trying to replace my current version (x86_64) version of that package
[22:42] <Guest63328> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12034965/ There you go wileee
[22:43] <wileee> Guest63328, Where ever you past this info you save it and post the url, I would use the bots suggestion.
[22:43] <Shed-34046> Btw guys how do i get the old ubuntu startup sound back o.o
[22:44] <jackie007> when I try to open synaptic package manager, i'm getting an error " Encountered a section with no Package: header"
[22:45] <jackie007> Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repo.steampowered.com_steam_dists_precise_steam_i18n_Translation-en
[22:45] <jackie007> i tried to remove steam and that errors out too
[22:45] <jackie007> I'm not able to install anything
[22:46] <jackie007> any suggestions?
[22:46] <Guest63328> Alright wileee, posted it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/12034965/
[22:46] <wileee> Guest63328, run just this and pastebin all of it,  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[22:46] <wileee> cli look at  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:46] <wileee> grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/} cli look at  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:47] <wileee> that command  Guest63328 ^^^
[22:47] <Guest63328> Just ran that wileee . This is what was in my terminal afterwards http://paste.ubuntu.com/12035020/
[22:47] <zykotick9> Guest63328: if you "/nick foo" it'll change your "foo" to a new name from Guest63328 probably...
[22:48] <KaosCreator> 1
[22:48]  * zykotick9 has Guest* set to ignore...
[22:49] <squinty> jackie007:   run the following in a terminal    it deletes your old lists and then updates  if no errors are generated after updating the lists, then try installing a program or upgrading again.   sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/ && sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial && sudo apt-get update
[22:49] <wileee> Guest63328, You have duplicate steam repos and way to many ppa's that is a mess from here, ppa's are not supported.
[22:50] <Guest63328> So, what can I do about that/
[22:50] <squinty> he also has a debian repo
[22:50] <zykotick9> squinty: mixing distro repos is madness...
[22:51] <wileee> Guest63328, Go to software & sources 2nd tab all the extra repos will be there find the steam ones and shut down one set, not sure which, I don;t game, than test.
[22:51] <squinty> zykotick9:  i know which is why i mentioned it
[22:51] <zykotick9> squinty: ;)
[22:52] <deliveryman> hello
[22:52] <gaetane> Est-ce que quelqu'un parle français?
[22:52] <zykotick9> !fr | gaetane
[22:52] <wileee> !fr
[22:53] <deliveryman> i wanna install ubuntu and i run an ssd as my primary drive, i hear that i cant reformat ssd same as normal hdds
[22:53] <gaetane> ok merci
[22:53] <wileee> deliveryman, Where did you hear this?
[22:54] <deliveryman> idk googling
[22:54] <wileee> deliveryman, no difference
[22:54] <deliveryman> o okie how sure are you
[22:54] <deliveryman> jus curious
[22:54] <Guest63328> so wait, you're saying, I must delete ALL duplicate repositories?
[22:54] <deliveryman> or are you 100percent
[22:54] <wileee> deliveryman, I have all SSD's
[22:55] <wileee> your welcome to wait for any rebute
[22:55] <deliveryman> lol word nah not sayin ur wrong
[22:55] <deliveryman> just was unsure if you were 100 percent sure or not
[22:55] <wileee> rebuts*
[22:55] <Guest63328> so, wileee , is that what you're saying, remove all duplicate repos/
[22:55] <Shed-34046> wileee and others do you remember the 2012 ad thing on ubuntu.. It was something like save yourself from the trouble that is windows 8.
[22:56] <wileee> Guest63328, You can click them on and off, I would not just remove, they add packages, your in a very precarious install,
[22:57] <wileee> Shed-34046, We don't answer, 'I think I saw elvis inquiries'
[22:59] <zykotick9> deliveryman: re:ssd, i use SSDs for all "system" (including swap) partitions [i don't expect them to last forever, but i've never had an SSD wear out yet] my ONLY issues is i run encrypted LVM, and have to do manual setting to get fstrim to work (vs using trim in fstab)...  i say, use SSD for the speed ;)
[23:00] <Guest63328> and you're saying once I click it off, run that command again/
[23:01] <wileee> Guest63328, No it will automatically update when closing that gui, than test if you can install.
[23:01] <Guest63328> it says "
[23:01] <Guest63328> This is a serious problem. Try again later. If this problem appears again, please report an error to the developers."
[23:02] <Guest63328> And allows me to look at details, you want the details?
[23:02] <Guest63328> in Details, it says "E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repo.steampowered.com_steam_dists_precise_steam_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[23:02] <wileee> Guest63328, Nah, honestly that is to messed up overall to really stick with you.
[23:02] <Guest63328> What do you mean, is my system broken?
[23:03] <wileee> Guest63328, YOU have gobs of 3rd party repos some not even ubuntu.
[23:04] <travis__> Hello all, I'm new to Linux. I installed Steam and have been playing CS:GO for awhile now, but I seem to have audio issues after about 30 minutes of gaming, which requires me to restart my laptop. Any ideas?
[23:04] <Guest63328> And....is there anything I can do about that?
[23:04] <travis__> So far I have done this command: sudo apt-get install oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms
[23:05] <wileee> Guest63328, Not you I suspect, IT is just so poorly set up not many are going to touch it, I would guess. None of those 3rd pafrty are supported here as well.
[23:05] <travis__> That threw me the error(?) : Unable to locate package oem-audio-daily-dkms
[23:05] <travis__> I then ran this command: sudo apt-get install dkms
[23:06] <Guest63328> Is there any way to get rid of those 3rd party repos?
[23:06] <travis__> It said: dkms is already the newest version.
[23:06] <daftykins> travis__: yeah so whatever guide you're following gave the wrong package name, so essentially you didn't change anything (good thing)
[23:06] <wileee> Guest63328, My guess is you just cruised the web and installed what you found without realizing it was a soon fatal mistake, sooner or later.
[23:07] <mindbender1> How can I manually start a service in the init.d directory?
[23:07] <travis__> daftykins, I got the command from another Ubuntu user on CS:GO.
[23:07] <travis__> daftykins, He must have misspelled something I suppose.
[23:07] <Guest63328> I suppose. I'm just gonna reformat the drive and Install windows 7 again, was worth a try I suppose
[23:07] <Guest63328> thanks for trying to help
[23:07] <daftykins> travis__: ah-har, do you install every package CS players tell you to? :P
[23:07] <wileee> Guest63328, Anyway, I do wish you the best. ;)
[23:08] <deliveryman> hmmm i just noticed when i installed ubuntu my secondary drive is there but i cant access it
[23:08] <deliveryman> says no d-bus interface
[23:08] <zykotick9> mindbender1: "sudo /etc/init.d/foo start"
[23:08] <deliveryman> i cant mount it
[23:08] <travis__> daftykins, Nope..Lol. I'm very new to Linux though so I trusted his guidance.
[23:08] <deliveryman> anyone have any ideas
[23:08] <daftykins> travis__: but did said individual even have the same or close hardware?
[23:08] <mindbender1> zykotick9 thanks.
[23:08] <deliveryman> it sees my mybook though and that worked but thats usb 3.0 not internal
[23:09] <travis__> daftykins, I have no idea. I understand what you're getting at. I'll be more careful from now on.
[23:09] <Guest63328> Thanks for help wileee . Guess windows was the way to go
[23:09] <zykotick9> mindbender1: i'd guess "sudo service foo start" might also work, and be more current...
[23:09] <daftykins> travis__: ;) perhaps have a hunt online for your exact model system and ubuntu version
[23:09] <travis__> daftykins, Can you please help me? I have a Lenovo Edge 15 laptop with Nvidia Geforce graphics card and i7 processor (if that stuff matters)
[23:09] <wileee> Guest63328, If you did the same in windows you would be infected.
[23:10] <wileee> likely anyway
[23:10] <travis__> daftykins, Oh, and LMS Ubuntu
[23:11] <travis__> 14.04
[23:11] <daftykins> LTS :)
[23:11] <travis__> My bad lol
[23:11] <travis__> I told you, I'm a newbie
[23:11] <deliveryman> is there anything i can do to make ubuntu do more than just see my secondary hdds
[23:11] <deliveryman> hdd*
[23:12] <deliveryman> what does no d-bus interface mean
[23:12] <deliveryman> im going ot restart hte computer and see if i can fix it
[23:13] <avilba> Hello everyone. I have a keyboard issue : on my laptop, my touchpad seems to be disabled for 2-3 seconds when I press any key of my keyboard. And that's also true when I use Onboard (virtual on-screen keyboard). Any ideas what the problem might be ?
[23:13] <daftykins> travis__: before going any further - this system working isn't your lifeline to getting some important work done is it? :)
[23:15] <RileyTL> avilba: that's a good thing is it not? :)
[23:15] <RileyTL> avilba: I like that feature anyway.
[23:16] <squinty> avilba:  iirc, there is a toggle in System Control keyboard to "turn off touchpad while typing"
[23:16] <avilba> Oh is it meant to be like that ? Didn't realize...
[23:16] <RileyTL> If I had to guess I'd say you're using something called 'syndaemon'
[23:16] <travis__> daftykins, This is my laptop.
[23:16] <travis__> daftykins, All I use it for is browsing the internet, coding as a hobby, etc
[23:17] <daftykins> ok so not mission critical
[23:17] <travis__> daftykins, If my OS gets ruined, I can reinstall from a flashdrive
[23:17] <travis__> daftykins, No documents on here that I can't live without.
[23:17] <daftykins> good stuff
[23:17] <daftykins> travis__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/618575/how-do-i-find-the-current-stable-kernel-hwe-for-14-04-2 - try that to get the *vivid* HWE then
[23:18] <daftykins> travis__: actually this one has the vivid version command - http://askubuntu.com/questions/598483/how-can-i-use-kernel-3-19-in-14-04-now
[23:18] <avilba> Ok thanks RileyTL now I know where to look !
[23:18] <Nectar> Anyone know a good message notifier for Empathy mail? recommend?
[23:18] <avilba> Good day everyone.
[23:19] <Shed-34046> Where do i go for Ubuntu support like how to install mozilla build of firefox and intel drivers and change a system setting and such :3
[23:20] <daftykins> Shed-34046: you already have the intel drivers if you installed and updated your release, no action needed to be taken there.
[23:20] <pablo_> dured
[23:20] <Shed-34046> ok
[23:20] <daftykins> Shed-34046: and what's wrong with the firefox you have?
[23:21] <Shed-34046> I just want the MozillaBuild since it has a built in updater :3
[23:21] <travis__> daftykins, So, to my understanding, I need to run: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid ?
[23:21] <daftykins> yes
[23:21] <wileee> Shed-34046, mozilla updates are usually in ubuntu within a day or so.
[23:21] <daftykins> Shed-34046: pointless.
[23:22] <Shed-34046> ok
[23:22] <daftykins> !pm | Shed-34046 Please don't.
[23:22] <daftykins> hmm ran off
[23:22] <pauljw> :)
[23:23] <travis__> daftykins, "System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?"
[23:24] <travis__> I can cancel or report.
[23:24] <travis__> daftykins, I really hope I don't have to reinstall Ubuntu lol..
[23:24] <daftykins> i have no way of knowing what that's about, nor if you're saying you installed and rebooted already
[23:24] <travis__> The command is currently running
[23:24] <travis__> Wait, it just finished.
[23:25] <travis__> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.19.0-25-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.05-25-generic
[23:25] <Nectar> not empathy i mean; a notification for Evolution
[23:26] <daftykins> travis__: rather than pasting piecemeal, (parts) paste the whole output from the command to http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[23:26] <travis__> Wow, I really need to learn more about Linux...
[23:26] <travis__> How can I copy from Command Line?
[23:26] <moodyreds> anyone familiar with 'library not found -lgcc_s.10.5'?
[23:26] <daftykins> travis__: select it, edit menu -> copy
[23:27] <travis__> I highlighted and hit ctrl c to no avail
[23:27] <travis__> Thanks
[23:27] <daftykins> it's ctrl+shift+C i think
[23:27] <daftykins> depends on terminal
[23:27] <wileee> Nectar, Release?
[23:28] <travis__> Any particular syntax highlighting to use?
[23:28] <Nectar> wileee3> 12.11
[23:28] <travis__> Nevermind
[23:28] <travis__> Stupid question lol
[23:28] <travis__> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12035388/
[23:28] <wileee> Nectar, 12.11 is not a real release
[23:29] <Nectar> 3.12.11
[23:29] <daftykins> nor is that
[23:29] <daftykins> hehe
[23:29] <Nectar> erm, gentoo?
[23:29] <Nectar> gnome i mean..
[23:29] <wileee> Nectar, THe ubuntu version 12.04 14.04 15.04?
[23:29] <coffee-> hi i would like to install steam on ubuntu 14.04.03 and have an amd radeon r9 card which driver should i pick?
[23:29] <Nectar> oh; 15.04
[23:29] <njmbb82> hey guys, i'm in the middle of a fresh install atm and i want to have encryption, but i want to have my /home on a separate drive. anyone know how to accomplish this?
[23:29] <daftykins> travis__: can you also use the same method to share the output of "lspci" ?
[23:30] <coffee-> flgx or flgx-updates?
[23:30] <wileee> njbair, Something else maual option.
[23:30] <wileee> manual*
[23:30] <njmbb82> that's where i am right now. what do i do?
[23:30] <coffee-> or should i just install vmware and run windows in that
[23:31] <travis__> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12035410/
[23:31] <njmbb82> rather, i'm unfamiliar with this interface
[23:31] <wileee> Nectar, please preface answers to others with their nick.
[23:31] <travis__> daftykins, By the way, I really appreciate your help buddy. :)
[23:32] <travis__> I really want to get into Linux.
[23:32] <travis__> I'm just such a newbie :(
[23:32] <daftykins> travis__: ok reboot should be safe, but there'll be a couple of things to check prior to you trying out CS
[23:32] <travis__> daftykins, Okay. Let me reboot and meet you back here.
[23:33] <wileee> !info mail-notification-evolution
[23:33] <wileee> Nectar, Has a bug but try installing mail-notification-evolution
[23:34]  * coffee- wishes he had bought an nvidia card heh
[23:34] <daftykins> coffee-: try updates
[23:34] <wileee> Nectar, Ah I thought I saw a bug, not true, heh.
[23:35] <Nectar> wileee, no problem.
[23:35] <coffee-> daftykins, updates? won't trash my new ubuntu install?
[23:35] <daftykins> coffee-: everything is reversible.
[23:36] <coffee-> erm okies :) ty daftykins :)
[23:36] <wileee> Nectar, So you know, I just used your question, '15.04 notification for Evolution' with the release your are running, top of the google list.
[23:36] <wileee> 30 seconds at most
[23:37] <travis__> daftykins, I'm back
[23:37] <daftykins> travis__: ok "sudo apt install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:37] <daftykins> i'll brb
[23:38] <travis__> daftykins, Upon reboot I got the same error message about my System progaram problems
[23:38] <travis__> Ok
[23:38] <travis__> Ok, I'll wait.
 travis__: ok "sudo apt install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" you might do this for daftykins
[23:39] <travis__> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12035454/
[23:39] <wileee> ;)
[23:40] <travis__> *gets hacked* lol
[23:40] <daftykins> travis__: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit"
[23:40] <wileee> Nectar, Glad to help, hope this works, just giving you some search info. ;)
[23:41] <travis__> daftykins, "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[23:41] <daftykins> wellity wellity
[23:41] <daftykins> sounds like you never installed an nvidia graphics driver to play that game of yours
[23:41] <travis__> Really..?
[23:41] <travis__> Wow
[23:42] <daftykins> must've been using the intel only
[23:42] <travis__> Didn't know I had to manually do that
[23:42] <travis__> On Ubuntu
[23:42] <daftykins> travis__: "sudo apt install nvidia-346 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings"
[23:42] <travis__> I'm such a newbie, but my endgame is Arch Linux. Any idea on how to get more familiar with command line and such?
[23:42] <travis__> Basically all things Linux?
[23:43] <wileee> that's what the cool kids run
[23:43] <daftykins> don't think of arch as some kind of 'pro' option
[23:43]  * wileee inserts joke
[23:43] <daftykins> it's essentially like those that soup up their cars, only in Linux form
[23:44] <travis__> daftykins, I just know that it is essentially a "minimalistic" distro.
[23:44] <travis__> I like the idea of minimalism, thats all.
[23:44] <pauljw> travis__, just start small, at the beginning.   try this for starters:  http://www.linux-books.us/linux_general_0003.php
[23:44] <wileee> travis__, use the net install and be as minimal you wan with ubuntu.
[23:44] <travis__> Having the right tool for the right job.
[23:44] <pauljw> read and read some more...
[23:45] <daftykins> travis__: functionality on update is also minimal so i hear ;)
[23:46] <travis__> daftykins, Really? Isn't it rolling?
[23:46] <travis__> So basically it breaks all of the time..?
[23:46] <daftykins> so i hear :D
[23:46] <daftykins> anyway did the above install?
[23:46] <travis__> Yup, just finished.
[23:47] <daftykins> ok reboot
[23:47] <travis__> daftykins, Do you work in IT?
[23:47] <travis__> I need to know before I reboot lol
[23:48] <travis__> y/n?
[23:48] <travis__> fine...ignore me. I'm gonna reboot.
[23:49] <daftykins> how childish
[23:49] <daftykins> how dare i fetch beer and chocolate :P
[23:49] <pauljw> lol
[23:49] <wileee> exactly what I was thinking, no fredom
[23:50] <wileee> freedom*
[23:50] <pauljw> don't you know that you're not supposed to have a life..?
[23:50] <daftykins> ah, must be in the code of conduct
[23:50] <daftykins> i live to serve!
[23:50] <pauljw> heheh
[23:51] <Nectar> :D
[23:51] <pauljw> you are awesome, i learn a lot from all of you guys
[23:51] <travis__> daftykins, Back :)
[23:51] <wileee> hang here enough you absorb stuff like muscle memories
[23:52] <pauljw> yep
[23:52] <travis__> Upon reboot I got the message "0.6(insert a lot more numbers here) Probe Failed"
[23:52] <travis__> I'm getting nervous lol
[23:52] <travis__> wileee, I plan on sticking around for awhile
[23:52] <daftykins> "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:52] <travis__> Linux has given me tons of problems so far, but I love it nonetheless!
[23:52] <wileee> "Excellent" Mr. Burns
[23:53] <Johnny_Linux> just say you dont own an acer
[23:53] <travis__> Started with Arch (yeah, I'm stupid..) moved to Mint (liked it), then came here to Ubuntu (LOVE it so far)
[23:53] <travis__> I own a Lenovo Edge 15 laptop with 8gb RAM and 1tb HDD
[23:53] <travis__> i7 processor
[23:53] <Johnny_Linux> good job
[23:53] <daftykins> chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic - only srs bsns support chat in here
[23:54] <travis__> Sorry daftykins
[23:54] <travis__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12035536/
[23:55] <daftykins> travis__: ok go give your game a test
[23:55] <daftykins> travis__: what usually happens? audio stops in 30 mins, or ?
[23:56] <travis__> daftykins, Yes sir.
[23:56] <daftykins> and you're using native Linux steam yes?
[23:56] <travis__> daftykins, It runs perfectly fine, but then my audio starts to loop a segment of like 0.5 seconds of audio
[23:56] <daftykins> no crazy concoctions?
[23:56] <daftykins> funky
[23:57] <travis__> Gameplay still works fine though
[23:57] <travis__> As far as your last question
[23:57] <daftykins> ok give it a whirl
[23:57] <travis__> I'm running "Steam (steam-launcher)


[00:00] <x5ives> I did check the md5sum before hand in ubuntu.
[00:00] <phillw> x5ives: Check MD5SUM for the downloaded ISO - You will need to compare your MD5SUM with Ubuntu Hashes.
[00:00] <phillw> that is okay?
[00:01] <x5ives> Yes, that's what I meant sorry.. I guess the burn did fail.
[00:02] <x5ives> Should I try burning at a slower speed?
[00:02] <phillw> x5ives: the most common reason for that is burning to fast... try 4X (or as low as you can do). burning an ISO is not the same as burning a music CD
[00:05] <x5ives> I just selected the try lubuntu option and it works fine. You sure the disc is corrupted?
[00:09] <phillw> run the self check on the CD... if it hangs... the CD is a coaster.
[00:13] <x5ives> I did, and I told you it does hang, but the try lubuntu option works fine.
[00:17] <phillw> x5ives: okies, let me try me this a different approach... try lubuntu is a menu... the data it needs is buried further within. The areas it is buried in are the areas that the self test checks out.
[00:18] <phillw> x5ives: you asked why the system was hanging? I have told you why... if the self test fails, you cannot install. It's that simple :)
[00:21] <darkxst> x5ives, try burn another CD, you can't install from broken CD!
[00:22] <phillw> x5ives: at the slowest speed you can...
[00:28] <x5ives> That's weird, there are 9 burning speed options, the first one is 'Maximum speed', the other 8 are all '423.4x (CD)'.
[00:29] <x5ives> This is in ubuntu.
[00:30] <x5ives> 12.10
[00:31] <phillw> x5ives: that is a bug we know of.... get a CD-RW, it will force it to burn at a slow speed and will also be reusable about 100 times.
[00:33] <x5ives> It is a CD-RW.
[00:34] <phillw> x5ives: what burn tool are you using?
[00:36] <x5ives> Wait a sec, it says it's a CD-RW in the burn window but not in the flile browser.
[00:36] <x5ives> It says it's just a CD-R in the file browser.
[00:37] <phillw> x5ives: which burn tool are you using? <echo, echo>
[00:38] <x5ives> Not sure what the burn tool is called. I'm fairly certain it's the default ubuntu one, I was just following the guide off help.ubuntu.com. I just write click on the iso and select 'Write to disc...'.
[00:39] <x5ives> This one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[00:39] <phillw> x5ives: there are several tools... which are you using from that list?
[00:40] <x5ives> 'Burning from Ubuntu' section.
[00:40] <x5ives> It doesn't say what the burn tool is called.
[00:41] <phillw> x5ives: it does clearly tell you which to use...
[00:41] <x5ives> ...Where?
[00:42] <phillw> are you on ubuntu / windows / mac?
[00:42] <x5ives> Ubuntu, I told you.
[00:43] <phillw> So, when you start the application, click on the help button and tell me what you are using?
[00:44] <x5ives> I think it is a CD-R though because I put the old disc in and it didn't seem to let me burn over it.
[00:44] <x5ives> Ok.
[00:44] <phillw> Well, you cannot re-burn a CD-R....
[00:44] <x5ives> I know.
[00:45] <x5ives> It doesn't seem to have a help button.
[00:45] <phillw> an Info button?
[00:46] <phillw> I cannot help you until you find out what application you are using.
[00:46] <x5ives> Nope, have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Burning_from_Ubuntu the images show the same burn tool I'm using.
[00:48] <phillw> x5ives: read the below....
[00:48] <phillw> The procedure may differ slightly depending on which version of Ubuntu you are using
[00:48] <phillw> So, I still need to know what you are using.
[00:48] <myhrlin> hi, I'm trying to open a program to X via ssh.  It used to be on certain systems I could simply DISPLAY=:0.0; firefox; or something
[00:48] <x5ives> 12.10, as I said.
[00:48] <myhrlin> but now it's not working
[00:48] <myhrlin> would someone know how to accomplish this
[00:48] <x5ives> How do I find out what I'm using?
[00:49] <phillw> myhrlin: I'd ask on #ubuntu-server about that
[00:51] <phillw> x5ives: the GUI you are using is clearly explained in the menu bar. Simply state that.
[00:52] <x5ives> 'Write to Disc'
[00:55] <darkxst> myhrlin, you are using `ssh -X`?
[00:56] <phillw> the window does not. As I'm out of ideas, head over to #ubuntu-beginners as what you are talking about does not have any link to lubuntu. I've let them know you will be arriving.
[00:56] <phillw> x5ives:  ^^
[01:00] <x5ives> Okies.
[04:59] <TannedVampire> hello
[04:59] <TannedVampire> yoohoo
[04:59] <TannedVampire> anybody?
[04:59] <TannedVampire> anyone
[04:59] <TannedVampire> i'm here?
[04:59] <wxl> nope, just us echoes.
[04:59] <TannedVampire> oh
[05:00] <TannedVampire> I was expecting anyone
[05:00] <Guest9065> is it possible to include all the printer drivers in the Lubuntu release just like what Linux Mint does? it makes life easier
[05:00] <wxl> anyone: There was no such nickname
[05:00] <wxl> Guest9065: possible, yes. going to happen, no.
[05:00] <Guest9065> the LXDE version of Mint was just plug and play, it had a lot of good features to increase ease of productivity
[05:01] <Guest9065> wxl, why not?
[05:01] <TannedVampire> I have a peppermint os and #peppermint is too sparse.
[05:01] <Guest9065> don't get peppermint, stick with Lubuntu
[05:01] <wxl> Guest9065: given the primary goal of the distribution is to make a lightweight distribution, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
[05:01] <TannedVampire> Eclipse suddenly dissappeared from peppermint.  Does anyone have this kind of problem?
[05:01] <TannedVampire> oh okay
[05:02] <Guest9065> wxl, having those drivers does not increase memory or CPU resources, etc
[05:02] <wxl> TannedVampire: this is #lubuntu, not #peppermint. lubuntu doesn't come with eclipse. can't help you.
[05:02] <wxl> Guest9065: nope, but it does increase the size of the distribution, or am i missing something?
[05:02] <Guest9065> 1TB HDD have more than enough space, even 40GB
[05:02] <wxl> Guest9065: there's a very simple solution. take lubuntu and make your own distro out of it.
[05:03] <Guest9065> yeah, i hope Mint, releases a new version of LXDE
[05:04] <Guest9065> if people really jsut wanted lightweight, they would use Bodhi Linux or something, or Ubuntu with no WE or DE
[05:04] <Guest9065> the reality is the OS is a tool to help you do things  easier resulting in greater productivity
[05:04] <TannedVampire> wxl: i was aware that this is lubuntu.  I have no choice but to come there for troubleshooting peppermint.  Maybe someone might have similar expereince with  disappearing applications.  If not, I'll try lubuntu
[05:05] <wxl> Guest9065: i'm not about to argue with you about the benefits of this thing or that think, but lubuntu's in the top 20 on distrowatch, so someone is using it.
[05:05] <Guest9065> yeah, i am
[05:05]  * ianorlin is using it
[05:06] <wxl> TannedVampire: i have never had a disappearing application on any version of unix/linux in the 20+ years i've used it, so i'm frankly kind of baffled. maybe you autoremoved it or something. i'm not sure how peppermint works but you can look in /var/log for anything related to apt and review what happened
[05:06] <Guest9065> wxl, do you even use Lubuntu?
[05:07] <wxl> Guest9065: no, i use peppermint and mint

[05:08] <wxl> Guest9065: read the 2nd paragraph here with emphasis on "low-spec." that suggests that for every user hard drive space isn't necessarily plentiful.
[05:08] <wxl> oops forgot the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
[05:10] <Guest9065> wxl, you are over-exaggerating the space needed to just include printer drivers with lubuntu, LXDE Mint was able to include all printer drivers easily making printers plug and play, as a modern OS should be
[05:11] <wxl> Guest9065: i'm not over-exaggerating. i'd have no problem installing them (if i wanted them all) but it's inconsistent with the goals of the project.
[05:12] <Guest9065> what is the goal exactly
[05:12] <wxl> read the link, mate
[05:12] <Guest9065> just lightweight?
[05:13] <Guest9065> wxl, then why are you not arguing for Lubuntu to use the lightweight web browser Midori instead of FireFox?
[05:14] <wxl> Guest9065: browsers have been a very contentious point of argument the past several years in the lubuntu camp. i actually argued for xombrero.
[05:14] <Unit193> Guest9065: Just because it's lightweight doesn't mean it should be added.  midori still has many render errors as well as crashing issues.
[05:14] <Guest9065> then clearly, the goal is simple not to just be lightweight, but also usability
[05:15] <wxl> usable in light of lightweight. i'd also say necessary might be an important condition. many people don't print.
[05:15] <Guest9065> many people don't use spreadsheets, thus why include gnumeric?
[05:16] <wxl> Guest9065: good point! but there's certainly no reason to include libreoffice, is there?
[05:16] <wxl> you have the capacity to install printer drivers, so what else do you need?
[05:16] <Guest9065> no, i don't
[05:17] <wxl> i installed printer drivers without any problem, so perhaps therein lies your problem
[05:18] <Guest9065> the average person has trouble installing drivers on Windows, and you expect them to easily install them in linux?
[05:18] <wxl> Guest9065: there's plenty of things in lubuntu that aren't easy. try adding fonts sometime.
[05:19] <wxl> Guest9065: so i take it you need help installing the drivers, then?
[05:20] <Guest9065> not, right now because i decided not to install Lubuntu on the computer, especially since support of current releases are only 9 months, which seem like a random number
[05:20] <Guest9065> i'll wait for the LTS release
[05:20] <wxl> we'll be here
[05:21] <Guest9065> do you know why they choose 9 months support only? instead of like a full 1 year? or even just 6 months to be in line with releases?
[05:22] <Guest9065> i don't know many people who would go through the trouble of installing an OS with only 9 months support
[05:22] <Unit193> 9 is to give you time to update to the next one, dropping the same month as the next release is a little crappy.
[05:23] <wxl> Guest9065: the more i listen to your convinctions, the more it sounds like you need to make your own distro!
[05:27] <Guest9065> Unit193, if the new release of Lubuntu is next month, but i need an OS right now thus install the Current version, it will only be supported for 3 months
[05:28] <Guest9065> a release should be at least 1 Full Year
[05:29] <Unit193> I think we're done with this topic, Lubuntu follows in line with the Ubuntu support timeframe and release date, if you don't like it you can take it up with the release team.  It's been hashed out quite a bit, and this is what they came up with.  Also, you are not forced to use Lubuntu, you can use (or make) something more fitting to yourself.
[05:33] <Guest9065> let's hope Lubuntu manages itself better, a lot of distros have come and gone, along with large powerful corporations because of bad management decisions
[10:01] <leszek> hi
[13:39] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> is this the right channel for suggestions of pcmanfm?
[13:42] <PR_> hello is it safe to remove pcmanfm via synaptic from a fresh Lubuntu install (I want to use Nautilus as it handles Win network better)?
[13:42] <PR_> or will it upset the whole system?
[13:43] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> i dont want to uninstall it
[13:43] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> i have suggestions for it
[13:44] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> oh you just joined PR_
[13:44] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> sorry
[13:45] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> i my self would install nautilus and then remove pcmanfm
[13:46] <PR_> I installed Nautilus and it works with my network of win machines (pcmanfm doesn't) so i'll try removing pcmanfm now
[13:47] <PR_> hmmm synaptic says will remove lubuntu-core default-session etc..... sounds scarey
[13:52] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> hold up
[13:52] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> thats not good
[13:52] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> that removes the whole session
[13:53] <PR_> googled it...ubuntu forum says remove from a different DE or other terminal
[13:53] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> maybe oh
[13:53] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> oh thought you only had one de
[13:53] <PR_> worried about breaking it though.... maybe leave it and set nautilsu as default file manager somehow?
[13:53] <PR_> *nautilus even
[13:57] <PR_> Oh, I *do* only have one DE
[13:58] <PR_> trying to set Nautilus as default: 'open with' on a desktop folder icon and choosing Nautilus as default for this type of item doesn't work
[13:58] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> that might break the whole computer
[13:58] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> maybe download the whole gnome desktop?
[13:58] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> gnome-core
[13:59] <PR_> computer is a bit old for that stuff lol. maybe theres a fix for pcmanfm? it's ok in other regards...
[13:59] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> huh
[13:59] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> gnome is slow on my computer too
[14:04] <PR_> thanks for the help...
[17:32] <leszek> hi
[21:26] <lubuntunoob> Hello, everyone.
[21:49] <Noskcaj> hello lubuntunoob


[11:57] <zteam> Hi, is there any ETA for then this bug is expected to be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838
[11:57] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1674838 in linux (Ubuntu Zesty) "kernel BUG at /build/linux-7LGLH_/linux-4.10.0/include/linux/swapops.h:129" [High,In progress]
[11:57] <zteam> It's eating my system alive


[20:52] <satellit__> dfarning: is there a later USR than 922? or do I install from 10.10 install now....
[21:48] <dfarning> satellit__, I'll have to follow up on that.  I have been working on dextorse  until we can earn enough money to support USR development
[21:58] <satellit__> dfarning: thanks.....I used sudo-apt-get install sucrose-0.90 to update 10.10...as a test;it works but is not quite ready...
[21:59] <satellit__> firefox worked as .xo but surf115 did not


[05:33] <dholbach_> good morning
[08:34] <popey> morning dholbach :)
[08:34]  * popey pokes elfy
[08:35] <dholbach> hey popey
[09:22] <dholbach> hey dpm
[09:22] <dpm> hey dholbach, morning
[09:23] <popey> morning
[09:23] <dpm> hey popey
[09:23] <dpm> thanks for organizing the community presentation slides while I was away
[11:45] <elfy> popey: here for 20 then back later
[11:46] <popey> elfy: just a friendly hello poke
[11:47] <elfy> okey doke - consider yourself poked too :p
[13:53] <jose> dpm: ping, have time for a quick PM?
[13:59] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day - I need to run! see you soon! :)
[14:03] <popey> o/
[17:18] <dpm> jose, really sorry for the delay, I'm around now - and don't feel you need to ask for permission for PM'ing me, generally just go for it :)


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[12:28] <kalvin> how to change profile picture in lubuntu 18.04
 @kalvin [<kalvin> how to change profile picture in lubuntu 18.04], Under System Tools > select LightDM GTK + Greeting Settings
[13:57] <kalvin> lubot: 👍 I'll try
[13:57] <kalvin> and what is telegram bridge
 https://snag.gy/1YieCH.jpg this theme too dazzled... is there any dark mode here for all apps on lubuntu
 this box too strong for my eyes
[14:55] <kc2bez> @ctisme take a look at the kvantum theme manager it can theme all of the qt applications.
[14:56] <kc2bez> !info qt5-style-kvantum disco | @ctisme
 installed @kc
 @kc2bez
 too complicated ... :D
 mmmm  install/ update theme section?
[15:02] <kc2bez> Change/delete theme section
[15:03] <kc2bez> Pick one from the drop-down arrow.
[15:03] <kc2bez> Then click preview to see if you like it.
[15:07] <Guest22249> how can i install discord on lubuntu 18.04.03 lts
[15:09] <Guest22249> ?
[15:09] <chieta> this theme looks good https://github.com/Luwx/Mojave-kvantum ... how to kc2bez
 @Guest22249 [<Guest22249> how can i install discord on lubuntu 18.04.03 lts], https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-discord-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[15:12] <chieta> is that apps same like steam Guest22249?
[15:13] <Guest22249> no is like telegram
[15:13] <Guest22249> thanks lubot
[15:13] <kc2bez> chieta: it is one of the included themes.
[15:14] <chieta> noted, i've already use the mojave solid one but still
[15:14] <chieta> the qt-pcmanfm still to strong like the screenshot
[15:17] <kc2bez> I am using the KvSimplicityDark theme.
[15:19] <chieta> checking
[15:20] <kc2bez> It is all personal preference obviously but I think Kvantum is the best theme manager option.
[15:20] <chieta> yeah but still
[15:21] <chieta> the pcmanfm-qt
[15:21] <chieta> too dazzled
[15:23] <kc2bez> https://share.riseup.net/#TxVepQ2y06W6dFr1oV8YXQ
[15:29] <chieta> how could it be?
[15:30] <chieta> me too use the KvSimplicityDark but
[15:30] <chieta> the pcmanfm still
[15:30] <beer_> hi do you know any good themes for lubuntu?
[15:31] <kc2bez> You may have to log out and log back in chieta
[15:31] <chieta> noted
[15:32] <kc2bez> beer_: we were just discussing this before you joined. :)
[15:33] <chieta> KvSimplicityDark from kc2bez point
[15:33] <beer_> oh bad timing
[15:33] <chieta> we talk about kvantum thing
[15:34] <kc2bez> !info qt5-style-kvantum disco | beer_
[15:34] <kc2bez> Kvantum is probably the best choice for a theme manager.
[15:35] <beer_>  thanks kc2bez
[15:36] <kc2bez> np. Enjoy. There are many options to test out.
[15:41] <chieta> how to reload the lxqt-session without reboot/logout
[16:19] <chieta> kc2bez i've logged out then login again
[16:19] <chieta> but still i could not like yours
[16:20] <chieta> still like https://snag.gy/1YieCH.jpg
[16:22] <kc2bez> Oh, I know why.
[16:22] <kc2bez> You need to select the kvantum theme in the LXQt settings.
[16:24] <kc2bez> Go to the menu select preferences then appearance then in the qt style select kvantum-dark
[16:24] <kc2bez> Sorry about that chieta
[16:31] <chieta> got it "lxqt-config-appearance"
[16:31] <chieta> cool it works
[16:31] <kc2bez> Nice!
[16:32] <kc2bez> Sorry I didn't realize that earlier.
[16:32]  * kc2bez needs another cup of coffee I guess.
[16:32] <chieta> thanks
[16:33] <kc2bez> np
[16:33] <chieta> my stomach not ready for the coffee
[16:33] <chieta> plain water or tea
 Hi: Can you tell me how I can set the menu opacity to 100% through the command line? A Russian channel member has set it to 0% and now cannot change in graphical mode.
[16:45] <chieta> how to or please share the screenshot
[16:46] <kc2bez> @JyotiGomes you can launch compton-conf from runner or the command line.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> @JyotiGomes you can launch compton-conf from runner or the command line …], oh, yes, of course. Thanks
[17:05] <kc2bez> np @JyotiGomes
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> np @JyotiGomes], I told the member of the Russian group to write compton-conf on the terminal and change the opacity values to 1 and he says that after entering again, only a black monitor appeared, only the mouse can be seen. Maybe he changed not only the values he had changed altes but also the Xrender values
 I believe that he can erase the Compton config file and it will create a new one with default values
 But test it before
 @HMollerCl [But test it before], ok
 The dialogue so far, translated from Russian, is here
 He can't see anything, no terminal, no folders and no files. He can try to delete Compton config file without seeing. What would be the command?
[19:09] <kc2bez> @JyotiGomes The compton config is in the `~/.config` directory and it is named `compton.conf` It might be best to boot from a live USB mount the drive and delete it that way so he can see what he is doing rather than blindly typing.
 And with ctrl+alt+f2 ?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> @JyotiGomes The compton config is in the `~/.config` directory and it i …], 👍🏼
 @N0um3n0 [And with ctrl+alt+f2 ?], yes. And, that way, he can erase the Compton config file, correct? after that, if will not solved, he can use the live USB
[19:17] <kc2bez> Yes, try that first ^ @N0um3n0 makes a good point.
 @JyotiGomes [yes. And, that way, he can erase the Compton config file, correct? after that, i …], possibly yes, then restart and see if everything is ok
 he need just to write  rm /home/jyoti/.config/compton.conf?
 with his user name
 Yes
 but with ctrl + alt + f ... you are already asked for username and password and you are already in user home
 @N0um3n0 [but with ctrl + alt + f ... you are already asked for username and password and …], yes
 Thanks for the help
[19:34] <kc2bez> Did he get it fixed @JyotiGomes ?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Did he get it fixed @JyotiGomes ?], are in it
 @JyotiGomes [Thanks for the help], to you for the support in Russian
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Did he get it fixed @JyotiGomes ?], He is tired and has had to go to sleep (his time zone is already long night). He tries tomorrow.
[19:54] <Guest25331> renato
[19:55] <renato> renato
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Did he get it fixed @JyotiGomes ?], I tried this solution on my laptop and it worked.  If it deletes compton.conf everything will be solved.
[22:03] <herick> hello
[22:04] <wxl> o/
[22:05] <Guest70822> hey guys, i have a dumb question, i'm on the installation of lubuntu on my machine, at the part of the disk selection, and i have an option called "replace partition", but i dont sure of what this means.. the data of the partition will erased and the lubuntu will be installed on it? thanks
[22:06] <wxl> yep
[22:07] <Guest70822> ok! haha thanks!


[16:30] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:30] <tyhicks> hello
[16:30] <jjohansen> o/
[16:30] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Sep 21 16:30:50 2015 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:30] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:31] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:31] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:31] <tyhicks> jdstrand: you're up
[16:32] <jdstrand> hey
[16:33] <jdstrand> so this week I'm finishing up some new snappy policy groups, working on documentation and helping tyhicks with anything for next week
[16:33] <jdstrand> I'm also working on helping the golang/juju/lxd mirs along
[16:34] <jdstrand> that's it from me
[16:34] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm currently working on two embargoed issues
[16:34] <mdeslaur> and if I have time, I'll pick something off the CVE list
[16:34] <mdeslaur> that's it from me, sbeattie&
[16:34] <sbeattie> I'm on community this week
[16:35] <sbeattie> I'm also working on some gcc-pie rebuilds, and fixing up an oversight in the patch I have (not enabling bind-now as well)
[16:36] <sbeattie> I have some apparmor patches to review
[16:36] <sbeattie> And I have a few things to address in QRT that kernel team testing has highlighted.
[16:36] <sbeattie> Also, I guess I have been volunteered to do an update later this week.
[16:37] <sbeattie> That's probably it for me.
[16:37] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up.
[16:38] <tyhicks> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:39] <tyhicks> I'll mainly be preparing for the snappy sprint (creating presentations and finishing up spec docs)
[16:39] <tyhicks> I'll also be helping out with an embargoed issue as time allows
[16:39] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[16:39] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:39] <jjohansen> I am working on apparmor stacking and bugs this week, specifically bug 1496430 and 1448912
[16:40] <jjohansen> oh and I suppose I need to respond to the aa-sha1sum email
[16:41] <jjohansen> maybe commit a set of Makefile patches
[16:42] <jjohansen> I don't really expect to get to anything else, but if I finishes those I will go back to other aspects of stacking
[16:43] <jjohansen> thats it for me sarnold you're up
[16:43] <sarnold> I'm on cve triage this week
[16:44] <sarnold> I'm hoping to finish the fwupdpate MIR today, ought to be doable if mitre wasn't too busy over the weekend, then start the lxd MIR
[16:44] <sarnold> lxd will likely take the remainder of the week
[16:45] <sarnold> if not into next week a bit, again depending upon how busy the thousand gnomes over at mitre are this week
[16:45] <sarnold> that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[16:46] <chrisccoulson> This week I've got a Firefox update to do (and maybe Thunderbird as well)
[16:46] <chrisccoulson> I've just done Flash
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> In addition to that, I'm going to be moving us to using Mozilla's new symbol upload API for Firefox build symbols
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> I plan to finish off https://code.launchpad.net/~zaspire/oxide/web-notifications_v2/+merge/262466
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> Other than that, I'll be working through Oxide bugs as usual
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> that's me done
[16:50] <tyhicks> thanks!
[16:50] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:51] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:51] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:51] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gdm.html
[16:51] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libpoe-component-pubsub-perl.html
[16:51] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pxz.html
[16:51] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:51] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/aria2.html
[16:51] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/vxl.html
[16:51] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:53] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: Thanks!
[16:53] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 16:53:28 2015 UTC.
[16:53] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-09-21-16.30.moin.txt
[16:53] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[16:54] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks
[16:54] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!
[16:55] <jdstrand> thanks tyhicks :)
[16:55] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks!


[00:48] <blahdeblah> Anyone happen to know what service on jammy is the source of DNS lookups for http://_http._tcp.my.configured.mirror/?
[00:49] <blahdeblah> (gah - that wasn't supposed to be a URL)
[00:49] <blahdeblah> just _http._tcp.my.configured.mirror
[03:16] <av2156> Hi, I have just installes ubuntu-server on a laptop, its wifi was working, after a reboot it stopped. some DNS issue i guess, ping not working.
[03:17] <av2156> tried iwd but cant configure with it, giving "Failed to retrieve IWD dbus objects, quitting..."
[03:18] <av2156> resolv.conf > nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:32] <av2156> netplan folder has two files
[03:33] <av2156> 00-installer-config.yaml
[03:33] <av2156> 00-installer-config-wifi.yaml
[03:35] <av2156> and yes wpasupplicant is installed
[07:16] <effendy[m]> blahdeblah: how do you mean the source of dns lookups? you're not talking about the local resolver/stub resolver, right?
[07:18] <av2156> thanks for support, i actually did a fresh install thereafter now everythings fine.
[07:27] <effendy[m]> It's a little bit unusual that you'd connect ubuntu-server to the internet over wifi, but I guess there are some special situations where you'd need it. Normally you'd expect a wired connection.
[07:48] <blahdeblah> effendy[m]: I mean: what service would be looking for that DNS name, and why?  It's a default AMI from AWS, if that helps.
[07:49] <effendy[m]> ok, I understand what you mean. Yeah, I've no idea. Maybe some service which tests what the fastest apt mirror is or something to that effect?
[08:09] <av2156> effendy[m]: no special condition actually, its just I dont have an ethernet cable here 😅 or around here.
[08:10] <effendy[m]> Yeah, you'd normally want to have a secure connection for a server in principle. But if downtime isn't critical, I guess it's ok.
[08:10] <effendy[m]> by secure I mean reliable
[08:12] <av2156> ok
[09:55] <open10k8s> Hello team. I want to deploy neutron 20.2 which includes this fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1973347. But 20.1 is the latest apt package for yoga release yet. I can see that there is a open bug for yota stable releases. https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/yoga/+bug/1980369.  Can you include neutron 20.2 also?
[13:16] <lucasmoura> hi rbasak, sergiodj has sponsored the ubuntu-advantage-tools release 27.10. I am still unsure if the jammy freeze will affect the release, I will ping sil2100 again


[13:24] <clivejo> anyone alive?
[13:52] <tdr112> some of us
[13:53] <slashbel> but i don't think there's much life in Ubuntu Ireland these days
[13:58] <tdr112> Ubuntu Ireland is a mailing list now that no one posts too
[14:15] <clivejo> thats a shame
[14:17] <clivejo> tdr112: are you in Ireland?
[14:17] <tdr112> clivejo: I am, in Dublin
[14:20] <clivejo> are there any LoCo meetups?
[14:20] <slashbel> not since 2011, iirc
[14:20] <tdr112> not any more
[14:21] <clivejo> :(
[14:22] <tdr112> clivejo: Are you a new Ubuntu user ?
[14:22] <clivejo> nope, I been around for quite some time
[14:23] <clivejo> Im a Kubuntu user ;)
[17:02] <czajkowski> clivejo: aloha
[17:02] <clivejo> hi
[17:14] <tdr112> clivejo: I stuck to unity
[17:19] <clivejo> I'm not a fan of unity
[17:32] <czajkowski> I foudn once I got used to and understood the hud life was very good
[17:32] <czajkowski> but the good thing about Ubuntu is all the flavours
[17:32] <czajkowski> so eveyrone has an option
[17:46] <clivejo> yup
[17:47] <clivejo> I used to like it, but just as they introduced Unity, the early days felt like the interface was working against me
[17:48] <clivejo> Im a creature of habbit, my system should work for me, not against me!
[18:05] <czajkowski> well that's true
[18:05] <czajkowski> and it's a funny one as they did so much usability testing and found the opposite
[18:05] <czajkowski> but I tihnk thats the case for a lot of things
[18:05] <czajkowski> its always going to suit one group and not the other
[18:05] <czajkowski> but that's te good thing there is choice and features you cna change
[19:09] <clivejo> thats why I love Open Source
[19:09] <clivejo> if you dont like it, you have choices
[19:09] <clivejo> really dont like it, code your own!