[03:28] <dane> pppl: what do you need a different kernel for if i may ask?
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> dat: I'm totally blanking on the term you should be googling... :S
[03:28] <briguyd> pppl, whats the next step?
[03:29] <ubuntu> hey is there someone know for UBuntu mail server with web gui
[03:29] <dat> tonyyarusso: currently googling: ban ip address automatically proftpd ubuntu
[03:29] <pppl> dane: as mentioned above: i have a 3ware 9650-raid controller, that's natively only supported by kernels above 2.6.19
[03:30] <darweth> Is there anyway to add mp3 support into Sound Juicer?
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> dat: "hammering"  try that
[03:30] <pppl> briguyd: you did not do a bios-update, did you?
[03:30] <briguyd> nope
[03:30] <briguyd> changed some settings, maybe, but not an update
[03:31] <pppl> briguyd: maybe changed some apic/ acpi/ ide-settings?
[03:31] <briguyd> probably, as i was messing with my hard drives and such
[03:31] <dat> tonyyarusso: hah!  that looks to be the ticket.  i'll search on that for awhile.  thanks!!
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> dat: Yay!
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> tonyyarusso, you almost seem happier than him ;P
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> Music_Shuffle: I am - my memory _worked_ for once :P
[03:32] <dane> pppl: i honestly don't know if these will help but i searched around
[03:32] <dat> tonyyarusso: just in case your curious, it pointed me to this: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/modules/mod_ban.html which looks to be good.
[03:32] <dane> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48952&highlight=changing+kernel+during+installation
[03:32] <pppl> briguyd: you should try to undo that changes. or you could as well try booting with the noapic-option
[03:32] <vignesh> Hi
[03:32] <gnoodles> dat: check ou mod_banhttp://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/modules/mod_ban.html
[03:32] <dat> Music_Shuffle: nah, i'm extremely happy.. this has been bugging me for a few days.
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> XD
[03:32] <gnoodles> err... http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/modules/mod_ban.html
[03:32] <briguyd> pppl, i have no idea what changes i made, my computer want booting, so i tried allkinds of stuff
[03:32] <vignesh> I run ubuntu on an 400mhz Hp Brio with 160Mb of Ram
[03:32] <dane> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs04.html#id2540989
[03:32] <dat> gnoodles: haha, yea, i just ended up there.  thanks.
[03:32] <briguyd> be back in a few
[03:33] <vignesh> Whenever i start skype i get an error saying segmentation fault
[03:33] <gnoodles> no problem...
[03:33] <maurox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1907/ does someone knows whay the directory / is with .static in a SATA hd ????
[03:33] <vignesh> so i installed the deb package of skype.. here i get reinstall skype as the error
[03:33] <maurox> why***
[03:34] <GreenD> Anyone here have much experience with creating packages?
[03:34] <vignesh> Even for other applications like flock , firefox i get segmentation fault error when I open another tab
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> GreenD: the MOTU folks would be better for that
[03:34] <vignesh> anyway to solve this problem ?
[03:34] <adamonline> Here's a quickie:  I just installed "xwit" by typing "sudo apt-get install xwit".  Should I be able to use this command from any path without having to change anything?  It doesn't seem to be working...
[03:35] <vignesh> I even tried using the xfce desktop even then I get the  error
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> adamonline: Try 'dpkg -L xwit | grep bin' to see if there's a funny command naming scheme.
[03:35] <gregg> Where do I go to get info about installing software on kubuntu
[03:36] <burnhamd> ok i have a usb keyboard and it doesnt work with the boot menu unless i enable emulation of usb keyboard
[03:36] <vignesh> anyone ?
[03:36] <pppl> dane: by that time it's too late to get another kernel. as i want to install onto the harddisks attached to the controller i already have to boot with a newer kernel.
[03:36] <riotkittie> vignesh: no clue, sorry. have you always had this problem ?
[03:36] <dane> sorry...
[03:36] <burnhamd> however i cant use this in ubuntu because it causes conflict between support of usb keyboards and then the motherboard emulation
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> !software | gregg
[03:37] <burnhamd> any ideas on how to get this to work?
[03:37] <ubotu> gregg: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> gregg: Kubuntu wiki might have KDE specific stuff if thta doesn't.
[03:37] <nicholaspaul> Q: Any Songbird experts here? It was playing mp3s, after an upgrade or two it just sits there. Anyone know why?
[03:37] <vignesh> riotkittie, yes.. Yesterday someone asked me to install xfce and that it will improve the performance and that the error won`t come
[03:37] <adamonline> tonyyaruso, it says /usr/bin and /usr/bin/xwit...  That sounds okay, but I wouldn't know...
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> adamonline: /usr/bin/xwit looks good - what happens if you run 'xwit' from a terminal then?
[03:39] <pppl> dane: i think next i'll try installing onto a disk that is attached via onboard ide and then maybe via cp and chroot i can get my system with a new kernel onto the raid-system. a bad and time-wasting workaround but better than not working at all
[03:39] <adamonline> tonyyarusso, Perhaps I'll try running it with some other commands; I was under the impression it didn't need any parameters as it has default actions...
[03:40] <adamonline> tonyyarusso, when I run it from the terminal it just goes to a prompt on the next line...
[03:40] <n2diy> adamonline: tonyyarusso, Run sudo updatedb, and try it again.
[03:40] <vignesh> riotkittie, anyway I will try with fluxbox and wmaker too.. maybe they will work well
[03:40] <vignesh> ty
[03:40] <vignesh> bye
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> adamonline: And not supposed to be a backgrounder I take it.  Huh.
[03:41] <adamonline> tonyyarusso, no, it's supposed to manipulate the window in some way
[03:41] <adamonline> n2diy, I did sudo updatedb, and it seems to be either hanging or working...  going on 45 seconds...
[03:42] <n2diy> adamonline: tonyyarusso, updatedb takes a while, let her cook, you'll get a prompt back when it is done.
[03:42] <adamonline> n2diy, cancel that, back to prompt =)  These terminal things need an hourglass =P
[03:43] <adamonline> n2diy, I still get the same response: nothing apparent happens
[03:43] <n2diy> adamonline: tonyyarusso, Ok, that was my best shot, good luck.
[03:44] <adamonline> n2diy, tonyyarusso, what does it mean to 'deiconify' and 'raise' a window?  That's the default action with no parameters
[03:44] <adamonline> n2diy, thank you anyway =)
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> adamonline: Not sure honestly.  I haven't gotten into the fancy windowing stuff yet
[03:45] <adamonline> tonyyarusso: hah, I'm starting to wonder if I'll be getting into it myself! =O
[03:45] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> oh my god
[03:45] <wolfwalker> I have internet trouble
[03:45] <wolfwalker> As in, how do you connect to the internet through ubuntu?
[03:45] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Guys, look at the first entry of digg... It is explaining how ignorance of collage students is keeping windows on top of macs...
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> wolfwalker: what kind of connection?
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> asdfjkahsdfjkha: Reading now :)
[03:46] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> rediculous...
[03:46] <Marsmensch> i have a problem with the current version of firefox ... i dont know why, but it slows down my cpu all the time
[03:46] <wolfwalker> Ethernet cable to modem, modem is DSL, provider is Centurytell
[03:46] <wolfwalker> Centurytel does not have tech support that supports linux
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> wolfwalker: 'course not
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> !adsl | wolfwalker
[03:47] <ubotu> wolfwalker: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:48] <bronson> Anyone use a USB Bluetooth adapter?
[03:48] <bronson> I'd like to pull some files off my phone but I'm not finding a decent tutorial out there..
[03:48] <adamonline> tonyyarusso, You spelled asdfjkahsdfjkhas name right?! Is there a way to automatically prefix a name in IRC?  And thanks for the help!  I think it's working; I was expection something more to happen when ran without parameters, but apparently not ::sheepish grin::
[03:49] <n2diy> adamonline: tab completion.
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> adamonline: asd<tab>
[03:49] <adamonline> n2diy: sweeeet! thanks!
[03:50] <nicholaspaul> did someone answer my Songbird question while I was gone???
[03:51] <mzuverink> I read somewhere in forums about a way to keep ubuntu gnome menu entries seperate from kubuntu menu entries, but can seem to locate it again, anyone familiar with this thread?  And if so could I have a link?
[03:51] <n2diy> ! tab
[03:51] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:53] <Ratty> Can any of you guys tell me if it makes much difference what memtest I use on my RAM... The processor is an AMD AThlon 64 X2 3800+ .... Would the regular memtest86 or do I need to use memtest86+ ? I already have ran about three memtests with the older version...
[03:54] <adamonline> Okay, I'm off to xwit my night away!  Thanks everybody :)
[03:54] <bradley_> i want to reinstall ubuntu without destroying my home partition. does anyone know of a good howto to use?
[03:54] <n2diy> adamonline: Don't break anything. :)
[03:54] <jvai> ty all.. gn
[03:56] <jessid> hello
[03:56] <sigger> anyone take pity and help a poor soul that can't seem to get ftp running on non-standard ports (cursed ISP!).  And its not a port forwarding issue. Get password prompt, but no data connection.
[03:57] <pppl> sigger: tried passive mode?
[03:58] <bulmer> sigger you have a firewall ?
[03:58] <sigger> I think so, I have pasv_enable=yes; port_enable=no; I have min and max pasv ports
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> sigger: Forward both ports 20 and 21
[03:58] <sigger> I have forwarded through the router 20/21, 8020,8021, and the pasv min thru max ports
[03:58] <user666> hey can anyone tell me how to change the font color in OO? i found a color button but that sets the text to a dark magenta... doesn't let me choose which color.......
[03:59] <sigger> I'm using nonstandard ports cause I recall my ISP wont give 80 or 20
[03:59] <mzanfardino> how do I shutdown X in order to install a new video driver?
[03:59] <pppl> mzanfardino: init 1
[04:00] <Ralith> mzanfardino, you don't.
[04:00] <sapage> ctrl alt f1
[04:00] <pppl> mzanfardino: you could however install it with a running x as well and then hit ctrl + alt + bkspc
[04:00] <n2diy> user666: open office?
[04:00] <MEMEME> simple question, do file transfers genrally download at about 20 to 40 kbs if shared in swarm by about 20 ppl having an 8meg connection... foes that seem normal or is it my comp?
[04:00] <mzanfardino> ctrl-alt-f1 does not shut down x, it merely suspends it
[04:00] <user666> n2diy, yes!!!
[04:00] <mzanfardino> I will try init 1
[04:00] <pppl> sapage: that only gives him a command prompt, but does not shut down x
[04:00] <Ralith> mzanfardino, he said backspace
[04:00] <user666> n2diy, pls tell me you know how to do it
[04:01] <sigger> so I have listen_port=8021 and ftp_data_port=8020
[04:01] <n2diy> user666: you should be able to select colors, maybe right click the button?
[04:01] <lovloss> ^ O ^ hiya
[04:01] <user666> n2diy... doesn't do anything....
[04:01] <sapage> o sorry
[04:01] <bradley_> if i have a home partition how would i reinstall ubuntu without destroying everything in home?
[04:02] <pppl> well, if the kill-scripts don't work (as they do on my 6.06.1) mzanfardino will still have X after init 1...
[04:02] <n2diy> user666: and left clicking it doesn't bring up any options?
[04:02] <user666> n2diy: nope just sets it to a dark magenta
[04:02] <MEMEME> anyone?
[04:02] <pppl> bradley_: as long as you don't tell ubuntu to format partitions, it shouldn't touch your home-partition during reinstall. but why do you want to reinstall it anyway?
[04:03] <n2diy> user666: weird, have you played around in preferences? Though you should be able to do right from the compose window.
[04:03] <user666> n2diy, i know... i looked on google and got a screenshot of some guys open office with a color toolbar open.... trying to get that atm
[04:03] <sapage> I have this ubuntu on a dual boot with my windows install ntfs can i add something to fstab to let me see my windows partitions?
[04:03] <pppl> user666: do you klick on the small triangle pointing downwards right beside the color?
[04:04] <user666> pppl: i dont have a small triangle
[04:04] <n2diy> user666: yes, I haven't played with OO in a while, but I recall doing it right from the app., and not through pref.
[04:05] <bradley_> pppl, my i accidently (because i had a repository enabled that i shouldn't have) upgraded some stuff that made my sound go all wonky.  i've tried everything that i can think of so now i will just reinstall. as long as it doesn't destroy /home i don't mind.
[04:05] <user666> pppl: i think the problem is... my color button is not visible in the toolbar... i have to click the arrow on the right hand side for buttons that didn't fit on the screen.......
[04:05] <n2diy> bradley_: back up /home.
[04:05] <user666> duh!! i maximized the window... now there is an arrow
[04:05] <user666> lol thanks for the help guys
[04:06] <bradley_> n2diy, what does that do?
[04:06] <idiosynchrosy>  /join #wikipedia
[04:06] <humblerodent> roflcoptah
[04:06] <bradley_> n2diy, i already have a separate home partition.
[04:06] <n2diy> bradley_: ok.
[04:06] <efondo> hu r u sure
[04:07] <n2diy> user666: so it is working now?
[04:07] <pppl> bradley_: /home is on an extra-partition, isn't it?
[04:07] <pppl> oh, you already said so.
[04:07] <pppl> then simply reinstall ubuntu and afterwards you can edit /etc/fstab to get your old home-partition mounted there again
[04:09] <bradley_> pppl, when i run the live_cd it will ask to delete the hard disk and i say no. right? but won't i end up with two ubuntus on my computer?
[04:09] <fab5freddy> Somebody please help with this streaming video issue
[04:09] <fab5freddy> Keep getting this error message "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll"
[04:10] <fab5freddy> There is nothing available via google to help me with this
[04:10] <zoidberg> hey guys can anyone help me with an APTITUDE SEMGENTATION FAULT error?
[04:10] <n2diy> bradley_: no, it will ask to format the drive, that you say no to.
[04:10] <fab5freddy> I should also mention I am using ubuntu amd64 dapper 6.06
[04:10] <pppl> bradley_: you use the live-cd, don't let him delete the complete hard disk but tell him to install ubuntu on exactly the same partition where it is now. you should format this partition. but only if you REALLY have your /home on another partition.
[04:10] <jobelle> hi
[04:11] <n2diy> bradley_: if it asks about partitons, tell it to use the exsisting ones.
[04:11] <fab5freddy> I read on ubuntu.com that this was the place to come for suppport
[04:11] <Alakazamz0r> yes fab5freddy what seems to be your question.
[04:11] <Alakazamz0r> yes fab5freddy what seems to be your question.
[04:11] <jobelle> hji[ooo
[04:12] <Pelo> fab5freddy,  do you beleive everything you read ?
[04:12] <Alakazamz0r> fab5freddy, are you fimiliar w/linux?
[04:12] <jobelle> am how to use this?
[04:12] <bradley_> okay. i'll try that. thanks.
[04:12] <pppl> n2diy: that might cause ubuntu to overwrite his home, might it not? i'd tell ubuntu to use the same root-partition but mount my home-partition by hand afterwards
[04:12] <jobelle> nope!
[04:12] <riyonuk_> Hi, when I edit my sources.list, I come across deb-src, what exactly does this mean?
[04:12] <fab5freddy> I am familiar with linux, i have been using it for almost a year now, have tried knoppix and for the past 6 months ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10
[04:13] <jobelle> u know how to speak tagalog?
[04:13] <Ralith> pppl, it won't overwrite it if it doesn't reformat it
[04:13] <Pelo> fab5freddy,  we'll be asking you questions then
[04:13] <fab5freddy> i am currently using ubuntu 6.06 (amd64), i keep getting this error message when trying to play a stream on nhl.com
[04:13] <n2diy> pppl: I'm not sure, if he has a seperate /home partition, it shouldn't mess with it.(?)
[04:13] <fab5freddy> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll
[04:13] <pppl> what will it do if he reinstalls it and gives a username that already exists?
[04:13] <Alakazamz0r> fab5freddy, may i PM you?
[04:13] <fab5freddy> i have been trying to figure this out for months. i have spent hours before coming here.  nothing works!
[04:13] <Alakazamz0r> i can fix it for you
[04:14] <Alakazamz0r> i dont feel like getting flamed for my methods though
[04:14] <ericj2190> does anyone know why i get "permission denied" when i try to access any samba shared file with spaces in the filename?
[04:14] <fab5freddy>  Alakazamz0r: yes please
[04:14] <n2diy> pppl: user names aren't kept in /home.
[04:14] <Alakazamz0r> ericj2190, what is your security level at? share?
[04:14] <Pelo> brb
[04:14] <Alakazamz0r> fab5freddy, you have to register to PM.
[04:14] <Alakazamz0r> Have you registered?
[04:15] <fab5freddy>  Alakazamz0r: i can't send you messages because i am not registered.. join #ubuntu64
[04:15] <ericj2190> alakazamz0r, security level for what?
[04:15] <pppl> n2diy: i know, i only wonder what ubuntu will do with an existing /home/pppl when i reinstall it and tell it that i want a new user named pppl and there's already a directory with that name in /home
[04:15] <mzanfardino> I'm tring to install the latest nvidia drivers. when I run the install script, I'm told X needs to be shut down.  ctrl-alt-f1 does not shut X down, and init 1 is too low a level to install the driver.  Can anyone tell me how to shut down X so I can install the driver?
[04:15] <Noah0504> What's the best way to create and seed a torrent under Ubuntu?
[04:15] <ericj2190> i can get files without spaces
[04:15] <Pelo> Noah0504,  utorrent running on wine
[04:15] <Noah0504> Ooo, I never thought about that.  I love uTorrent.
[04:16] <Noah0504> haha
[04:16] <pppl> mzanfardino: you could try init 2. however you really can install the driver within X and then simply hit ctrl + alt + backspace to restart the x-server. i did and it worked well
[04:16] <starry> if I have specific x-values that I want to use in making a graph in spreadsheet, and i have their respective y-values, how can I graph those? When I try, it simply uses the row number as the x-value and creates two separate lines. Can someone help me out?
[04:16] <TheDebugger> mzanfardino: Go to a console "CTRL+ALT+F1", then write "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", install the driver then,"sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[04:16] <Pelo> Noah0504,  I can even tell you how to make it pretty ( it usualy isn'T on wine) but it is a bit involved
[04:17] <bruenig> my utorrent is ugly
[04:17] <mzanfardino> TheDebugger: thank you!
[04:17] <pppl> mzanfardino: you could change via ctrl + alt + f1 to a console and then kill X with kill as well
[04:17] <n2diy> pppl: if it is truely a seperate partion, it should be ignored. That is something I intend to do next time I do an install, but haven't done yet.
[04:17] <Noah0504> Eh, the looks don't normally bother me too much.  I do think someone needs to develop a BitTorrent client on Linux similar to uTorrent.
[04:17] <chable> anyone knows how can i access Nvidia control panel , after i installed nvidia-glx ?
[04:17] <brussel> Why is it that my edgy eft desktop doesn't keep the time syncd despite it being checked to "keep clock synchronized with internet servers"?
[04:17] <bruenig> Noah0504, they are going to port utorrent
[04:18] <Pelo> bruenig,  get a windows theme from deviant art , load it in wine,  it will fuck up , no problem, unload it,  you now have a  user.reg file in the .wine folder,  edit that for the right colours
[04:18] <bjv> hm, running this ./configure script cant find where ubuntu keeps it's GL/ header folder?
[04:18] <brussel> i have to disable that check box and press synchonize now to make the time correct?
[04:18] <bjv> how/what am i supposed to tell the script?
[04:18] <starry> if I have specific x-values that I want to use in making a graph in spreadsheet, and i have their respective y-values, how can I graph those? When I try, it simply uses the row number as the x-value and creates two separate lines. Can someone help me out?
[04:18] <Noah0504> bruenig: Yes!  When is that going to happen?
[04:18] <bruenig> Noah0504, not specified
[04:18] <Noah0504> bruenig: Tomorrow would be a good answer... haha
[04:18] <Pelo> Noah0504,   bittorrent recently bought ut from ludde, they might make a port but I am not olding my breath
[04:19] <bruenig> it said they would on their website when they bought it
[04:19] <Noah0504> Ahh.
[04:19] <Pelo> promises promises
[04:19] <Pelo> bruenig,  who's site ?
[04:20] <bruenig> Pelo, I went to the #utorrent channel and they had some faq about the deal and it said it, I don't remember whose it was specifically
[04:20] <Schminux> Hello! I am trying to get MS Sidewinder force feedback joystick working in Ubuntu 6.0.6 and not making any progess... can see the gameport in device manager, but nothing more.
[04:20] <bjv> anyone compile opengl software? or just know?
[04:20] <bjv> the configure script says: "checking for GL/gl.h... no"
[04:21] <bjv> but  ls -l /usr/include/GL/gl.h  gives "-r--r--r-- 1 root root 72949 2006-08-18 05:03 /usr/include/GL/gl.h"
[04:23] <riyonuk_> Hi, when I edit my sources.list, I come across deb-src, what exactly does this mean? Do I need it?
[04:24] <Pelo> riyonuk_,  deb are debian packages  they are also used by ubuntu
[04:25] <bjv> !opengl-dev
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Schminux> !joystick ubuntu 6.0.6
[04:25] <ubotu> joystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 76 kB
[04:25] <bjv> !opengl headers
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <riyonuk_> Yes I know that, whats the diffrence between deb and deb-src?
[04:25] <dequeued> Anyone know how I would go about installing e16?
[04:26] <Pelo> riyonuk_,  I am guessing deb-src is debian-source
[04:26] <pppl> good night everyone. don't stay up to long, sleep is precious ;-)
[04:26] <katabatic> h
[04:26] <n2diy> ! e16
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e16 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <pppl> -src should contain source-files only
[04:26] <EnsignRedshirt> dequeued: e16 is in the repositories.
[04:26] <riyonuk_> Pelo, so do I need it? Im not a compiler or developer
[04:26] <TheDebugger> bjv: libgl1-mesa-dev probably :/
[04:26] <pppl> riyonuk_: no
[04:26] <dequeued> could I just add an ornery debian repository to sources.list? would that break ubuntu?
[04:26] <Schminux> *time* is precious, sleep is justone of many ways to use it!   Good night!
[04:27] <Pelo> riyonuk_,  if you don'T know what it is , DON'T MESS WITH IT
[04:27] <dequeued> really? I will check again
[04:27] <EnsignRedshirt> dequeued: There is an ubuntu package: enlightenment
[04:27] <riyonuk_> Pelo, so am I free to delete it?
[04:27] <bjv> TheDebugger: "libgl1-mesa-dev is already the newest version"   :\
[04:27] <TheDebugger> hmm :/
[04:27] <dequeued> E: Couldn't find package enlightenment
[04:27] <Pelo> riyonuk_,  it is your comp you can do wath you want with it
[04:27] <bjv> TheDebugger: im not sure why the configure script cant find them
[04:27] <dequeued> Nope
[04:28] <EnsignRedshirt> dequeued: It is in the universe repository (at least in dapper, which is what I am using)
[04:28] <dequeued> Is there a repository I need to uncomment? Sorry, I *am* new to ubuntu
[04:28] <checkmate> sometimes when i run firefox, i get this error message: Firefox is already running, but it is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system." then i can only hit "ok", and I always have to shut down and boot back up to run firefox (killall firefox doesn't work)
[04:28] <EnsignRedshirt> !repository
[04:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:29] <n2diy> riyonuk_: don't delete it, comment it out.
[04:29] <bjv> firefox-bin the executable is called?
[04:29] <checkmate> is anyone aware of a fix for this?
[04:29] <riyonuk_> Pelo, yes but what will happen? Thats why Im here, otherwise I would have deleted a long time ago
[04:29] <n2diy> riyonuk_: don't delete it, comment it out.
[04:29] <Pelo> riyonuk_,  are you that hard up for disk space that you can'T leave one line in ?
[04:29] <dequeued><PHONE_NUMBER>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[04:29] <dequeued><PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[04:30] <dequeued> ack! sorry!
[04:30] <ant_> dequeued: freshmeat.org, and just compile it
[04:30] <minerale> what irc clients are there (I can't quite use xchat due to a freenode bug)
[04:30] <Pelo> !ops
[04:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:30] <Ralith> minerale, do you mind using a kde client?
[04:30] <M4th3u2> hi
[04:30] <__mikem> What the h***, why are people doing this
[04:30] <riyonuk_> n2diy, but why? I mean some dont even have a src, just de
[04:30] <riyonuk_> *deb
[04:30] <minerale> ralith: konversation? --- any others ?
[04:30] <h3xis> minerale, irssi, bitchx
[04:30] <Pelo> minerale,  I am on freenode right now and I am using xchat,  what bug &?
[04:30] <Ralith> minerale, kvirc is *very* good
[04:30] <dequeued> Sorry, my cat did that
[04:30] <Madpilot> minerale, what freenode bug? Xchat runs fine here on freenode...
[04:30] <Mez> ah Madpilot, you got there first
[04:30] <minerale> h3xis: I'm running irssi proxy on the back, wanted a nice front end to avoid having the lag
[04:31] <varsendaggr> what is up?
[04:31] <dequeued> Got e16 working when I uncommented the proper repositories
[04:31] <n2diy> riyonuk_: just put a # in front of it, and it will be ignored, if you want it later, remove the # sign.
[04:31] <h3xis> mindframe, what freenode bug?
[04:31] <dequeued> doesn't help that I am really drunk
[04:31] <minerale> madpilot: irssi + xchat + freenode = a feature enabled whereas messages are prepended with +, -, and actions break too
[04:31] <dequeued> thanks guys
[04:31] <minerale> h3xis: ^^
[04:31] <h3xis> that's odd
[04:31] <cas3> is the US repository running slow for anyone else right now?
[04:31] <minerale> there's a perl hack to fix it, but the machine I'm running irssi on does not play nice with perl
[04:32] <riyonuk_> Pelo, maybe... :p fine Ill leave it
[04:32] <M4th3u2> HELP
[04:32] <Rookie-1> !ask
[04:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:32] <h3xis> screaming help really does the trick
[04:32] <M4th3u2> sry
[04:32] <M4th3u2> !ask
[04:32] <riyonuk_> ok
[04:33] <h3xis> M4th3u2, whats wrong
[04:34] <M4th3u2> i execute 'apt-get update ' and return message Connection Refused !!!! normal ?????????
[04:34] <Gun_Smoke> When was Dapper released?
[04:34] <cas3> is the US repository running slow for anyone else right now, or is it just my network? I'm getting bytes instead of kbs
[04:34] <EnsignRedshirt> riyonuk_: Unless you plan to download the source code versions of packages and compile them yourself, there is no harm in commenting out the deb-src entries.  It might even make 'apt-get update' a bit faster.
[04:34] <M4th3u2> edgy eft
[04:34] <h3xis> Gun_Smoke, maybe 6/06?
[04:34] <n2diy> Gun_Smoke: 6/06
[04:34] <Gun_Smoke> Ah.. ha.. hence 6.06
[04:34] <Gun_Smoke> I knew that
[04:35] <h3xis> M4th3u2, well, do you have an internet connection on the machine youre running that on?
[04:35] <M4th3u2> sure
[04:35] <h3xis> M4th3u2, did it just start doing this?
[04:35] <Gun_Smoke> So LTS carries until June of 09.
[04:36] <M4th3u2> conection ok
[04:36] <n2diy> Gun_Smoke: that's what they say.
[04:36] <EnsignRedshirt> How often will LTS versions be released?
[04:37] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: hopefully every five years! :)
[04:37] <Gun_Smoke> EnsignRedshirt:  Every 3yrs I think
[04:37] <Rookie-1> LTS is 5, isnt it ?
[04:37] <nothlit> !lts
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> Rookie-1: they might overlap
[04:37] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:38] <n2diy> Rookie-1: support is for 5.
[04:38] <Alakazamz0r> Anyone know if a XDMCP client for Win32?
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> For server deployments only
[04:38] <Rookie-1> Ahh, true
[04:38] <nothlit> regular is 18mo/3y and LTS is 3y/5y
[04:38] <nicholasx> hello
[04:38] <Gun_Smoke> I'm on my 3rd attempt on trying accept edgy.. I'm just not digging it.
[04:38] <nicholasx> is it possible to use kde destop with ubuntu or do you have to install the kubuntu distrobution for that?
[04:39] <Gun_Smoke> Ready to do a clean install of 6.06 in the morning.
[04:39] <h3xis> nicholasx, yes
[04:39] <nicholasx> yes what?  you have to install kubuntu?
[04:39] <h3xis> nicholasx, sudo apt-get install kde i think
[04:39] <CrazyDoode> nicholasx: yup.. just install it and choose it when logging in
[04:39] <h3xis> no
[04:39] <EnsignRedshirt> Is the distinction between desktop and server for LTS just a matter of which packages will be supported? E.g. apache2 supported for 5 years, OpenOffice for 3 years?
[04:39] <craigbass1976> What's the ubuntu equivilent of RH's chkconfig app on?
[04:39] <nothlit> nicholasx, yup, its quite easy, you could even install all of kubuntu
[04:39] <bruenig> !info kubuntu-desktop
[04:39] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.22 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[04:39] <Rookie-1> kubuntu-desktop
[04:39] <nothlit> !kdebase
[04:39] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:39] <h3xis> kubuntu-desktop changes things
[04:39] <nicholasx> i was running kde prgrams like kb3 and stuff but it was still the gnome desktop i like kde better
[04:39] <h3xis> kdebase is what he wants
[04:40] <n2diy> Gun_Smoke: That is what I'm using, and I'm sticking with it, 90% of the problems here seem to be related to Edgy.
[04:40] <nothlit> EnsignRedshirt, the server = daemons, and No x, and there server kernel
[04:40] <niru> in ubuntu how to enter as root
[04:40] <Gun_Smoke> After my upgrade to Edgy, I lost terminal, web browsers, Gaim, and more with Flux.. I asked over there.. They have no idea.'
[04:40] <niru> I am unable to ping to my server
[04:40] <Gun_Smoke> n2diy:  I'm going back tomorrow..
[04:40] <nothlit> !sudo
[04:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:40] <EnsignRedshirt> nothlit: Ah, OK.  There is a different kernel for the server version?
[04:40] <minerale> ok, xchat does not work and neither does konversation (first enables an odd feature on freenode and koversation dies because I'm on too many channels (60+) ) are there any other gui irc clients ?
[04:40] <__mikem> well, I have homework so goodnight
[04:41] <nothlit> EnsignRedshirt, yeah
[04:41] <Crescendo_> Is there a way I can see what repositories packages I have installed are from?
[04:41] <dequeued> Where the hell is zsnes???
[04:41] <Gun_Smoke> I applaud the effort of advancing Linux, Ubuntu esp.. But I have not the time or patience of dealing with it..  I wish I could better contribute to the effort.. But I can't.
[04:41] <n2diy> Gun_Smoke: My box isn't broken, so I'm not going to fix it. In fact, I grabbed the latest updates two days ago, and I haven't rebooted yet. I'm afraid they are going to break something!?
[04:41] <deltad> hi everybody!
[04:41] <dequeued> why wouldn't that be avalable?
[04:41] <deltad> how do you guys feel about gNewSense?
[04:42] <nicholasx> so i don't have to install kubutu i can get kde with ubuntu
[04:42] <dequeued> Seriosuly
[04:42] <nothlit> Crescendo, apt-cache policy <packagename>
[04:42] <nicholasx> i just install kde base with ubuntu?
[04:42] <nicholasx> just use the package manager
[04:42] <Madpilot> !info zsnes
[04:42] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:42] <nicholasx> i burned the dvd off the website
[04:42] <Madpilot> dequeued, it's in Multiverse
[04:42] <n2diy> ! gNewSense
[04:42] <ubotu> gNewSense is a GNU/Linux distribution based off Ubuntu with the aim of containing only free software. The Website is http://www.gnewsense.org  -  Support in #gnewsense, NOT #ubuntu
[04:42] <nicholasx> i think its the dapper version
[04:42] <nothlit> nicholaspaul, you can use kdebase , or kubuntu-desktop for kubuntu, or kde, for the whole shebang
[04:42] <nicholasx> and they just sent me the cd version of dapper
[04:42] <niru> ubotu:is there any way in ubuntu to enter as root
[04:42] <niru> I am unable to ping to server
[04:42] <dequeued> I thought I uncommented all repositories and updated apt
[04:42] <Crescendo_> nothlit, how about in reverse, see what packages I have installed from a certain repository?
[04:42] <nothlit> !sudo | niru
[04:42] <ubotu> niru: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:42] <dequeued> but it can't find it :(
[04:43] <nothlit> Crescendo, nope
[04:43] <Madpilot> niru, ubotu is a bot, just FYI ;)
[04:43] <swxdan> can anyone help with a wireless network card issue?
[04:43] <riyonuk_> Alrighty, and also, when pressing refresh, what does Hit and Ign mean?
[04:43] <MasterShrek> what kind of card swxdan
[04:43] <EnsignRedshirt> dequeued: It is in the multiverse repository.
[04:43] <swxdan> I just installed an eHome wireless G desktop adapter
[04:43] <swxdan> EH102
[04:43] <nicholasx> does the ubuntu dvd from the site have a lot of programs you can install off of it?
[04:43] <nicholasx> the iso file i mean
[04:43] <nicholasx> that you burn to dvd
[04:43] <deltad> ubotu, I know that, but do you feel that somebody using gNewSense can ask for help here as part of the Ubuntu Community or do you think gNewSense users are a fork on its own (I ask this because I am considering installing gNewSense on one of my computers)?
[04:43] <Crescendo_> I'm afraid of removing repositories, in fear of losing updates for certain packages. :/
[04:43] <dequeued> EnsignRedshirt, I uncommented the multiverse respository, but I can't install it
[04:43] <EnsignRedshirt> dequeued: By the way, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is really handy for finding packages.
[04:44] <dequeued> I ran apt-get update, should I do anything else
[04:44] <swxdan> kubuntu doesn't seem to see the card.
[04:44] <MasterShrek> swx do an lspci on it and pm me it
[04:44] <deltad> ok - I got a bot answer :-((
[04:44] <dequeued> I haven't used a debian based package mangaer in awhile
[04:44] <EnsignRedshirt> dequeued: Did you "Reload" in Synaptic, or "apt-get update"?
[04:44] <dequeued> yes
[04:44] <deltad> anyone here willing to talk about gNewSense?
[04:44] <Ralith> deltad, they can ask for help here if they pretend they're on ubuntu
[04:44] <nicholasx> because i'm wondering if i should give ubuntu a fair shake or just stick with suse 10.2
[04:44] <n2diy> ! gNewSense | deltad
[04:44] <ubotu> deltad: gNewSense is a GNU/Linux distribution based off Ubuntu with the aim of containing only free software. The Website is http://www.gnewsense.org  -  Support in #gnewsense, NOT #ubuntu
[04:44] <nothlit> niru, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and and change all the us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com mabbe
[04:44] <craigbass1976> What's the ubuntu equivilent of RH's chkconfig app on?  DO I manually have to go into the rc directories?
[04:45] <deltad> Ralith, do *you* consider gNewSense as a subgroup of Ubuntu or not?
[04:45] <niru> nothlit:I changed /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <riyonuk_> Can fluxbox run with gnome? Im getting confused by gnome-look, using themes from fluxbox and gnome
[04:45] <nothlit> craigbass1976, i dunno about chkconfig, but theres dpkg-reconfigure?
[04:45] <EnsignRedshirt> dequeued: Ooops, sorry, you already said you did an update
[04:45] <nothlit> niru, sudo apt-get update
[04:45] <dequeued> EnsignRedshirt, But it still isn't working!!
[04:45] <niru> nothlit:is it that we can only connect to ubuntu site
[04:45] <craigbass1976> I just wondered if there were a quick CLI way of turning mysql on at boot.
[04:45] <nothlit> riyonuk_, yes it can, but openbox works a lot better
[04:46] <dequeued> E: Couldn't find package zsnes
[04:46] <niru> nothlit:I am not connecting to ubuntu site
[04:46] <h3xis> dequeued, just download the deb manually from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <niru> nothlit:I have my own repo so I am connected to that
[04:46] <dequeued> h3xis, isn't this a problem that it isn't accepting the respository that I uncommented?
[04:46] <dequeued> I should get this to work first
[04:46] <sapage> how do you mount a ntfs partition?
[04:46] <swxdan> MasterShrek: Got it?
[04:46] <h3xis> dequeued, pastbin.ca your sources.list
[04:46] <nothlit> niru, pastbin the contents of your sources.list
[04:46] <MasterShrek> swxdan nope
[04:46] <swxdan> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]  8-2.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[04:46] <nothlit> !pastebin | niru
[04:46] <ubotu> niru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <MasterShrek> k
[04:47] <n2diy> craigbass1976: that is a funny question, if it is turned on at boot, you don't need a cli? Do you mean have it automatically start at boot up?
[04:47] <nothlit> !ntfs-3g | sapage
[04:47] <ubotu> sapage: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:47] <nothlit> sapage, thats if you want readwrite
[04:47] <craigbass1976> n2diy, Yes, to have it start at boot.  You can go ahead and kick me... :)
[04:47] <adamonline> Is xterm basically a standard terminal?  Is it a good bet that if I write a script around xterm, It would be quite portable?
[04:47] <sapage> !ntfs-3g
[04:47] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:48] <h3xis> adamonline, it's not in all distros by default, but it's becoming more prevalent so you can probably do what you want to do
[04:48] <sapage> i used that
[04:48] <niru> nothlit:thats in another system
[04:48] <Schminux> Hello! I am trying to get MS Sidewinder force feedback joystick working in Ubuntu 6.0.6 and not making any progess... can see the gameport in device manager, but nothing more.
[04:48] <n2diy> craigbass1976: kick, kick. Yes, but I don't know how of the top of my head, but now you know the correct question to ask. :)
[04:48] <varsendaggr> hey my usb mouse keeps falling asleep    how do i make the mouse interval last longer....    iam using fluxbox
[04:48] <sapage> nothlit:  did not get the partition to mount
[04:48] <n2diy> of/off
[04:48] <adamonline> h3xis: Cool, thank you!  I suppose it beats calling another instance of gnome-terminal ;)
[04:49] <lotacus> THAT'S 3 TIMES IN THE PAST 10 MINUTES that I inadvertantly hit shift backspace while I was doing something critical!!!!
[04:49] <riyonuk_> nothlit, but open box doesnt have this theme, I think, its all about the themes :p
[04:49] <craigbass1976> n2diy, right.  I got it anyway with the GUI, but was curious.  I know I can mess around in the /etc/rc dirs, but wanted somethign quicker.
[04:49] <lotacus> that damn log off keyboard short cut really hast to be changed in the next release. LOL
[04:49] <h3xis> adamonline, yeah. the only distro i know off the top of my head where it doesnt come standard is debian sarge, but debian etch is about to release and it comes with it by default
[04:50] <adamonline> h3xis: cool, thanks again =)
[04:50] <swxdan> MasterShrek:  ndiswrapper?
[04:50] <n2diy> craigbass1976: well, once it is setup in rc.d, or intit.d or whatever it is, you never have to worry about it again.
[04:50] <MasterShrek> swxdan sorry can u give me the output for lspci -v also
[04:50] <Pici> !info slab
[04:50] <ubotu> Package slab does not exist in any distro I know
[04:50] <MasterShrek> thats what im thinking swxdan
[04:51] <lotacus> anyone know how to chage or disable shift+backspace? it's not in the keyboard short cut settings
[04:51] <swxdan> MasterShrek: the subsysgtem is d-link
[04:51] <MasterShrek> ive never had good luck with ndiswrapper tho swxdan but some clame it works
[04:51] <nothlit> niru, can you just show us your sources.list
[04:51] <swxdan> MasterShrek:  Dang, just got the card for 10 bucks!
[04:51] <jeff_> Has anyone else's gaim stopped working?
[04:51] <craigbass1976> jeff_, I'm on mine now
[04:51] <swxdan> MasterShrek:  I'll give it a go, thanks for the help!
[04:51] <niru> I comment all lines and gave deb http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/boss tarang main
[04:51] <jeff_> as in refuses to connect
[04:51] <jeff_> damn
[04:51] <lotacus> jeff, nope mine is still working
[04:51] <craigbass1976> jeff_, which protocol?
[04:51] <adamonline> jeff_: Mine's fine, I'm on it now...
[04:52] <niru> nothlit,I commented all lines and gave deb http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/boss tarang main
[04:52] <lotacus> though i'm still using beta 3
[04:52] <jeff_> I reinstalled it and I still cannot connect to my sn
[04:52] <jeff_> and I tried other sn's from other computers in my house
[04:52] <nothlit> niru, well is your repo synced to the official repos?
[04:52] <jeff_> I'm beginning to think I got blacklisted or something
[04:52] <n2diy> ! sn
[04:52] <ubotu> sn: Small NNTP server for leaf sites. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-4 (edgy), package size 166 kB, installed size 632 kB
[04:52] <nothlit> niru, also you need at least main and restricted
[04:52] <jeff_> screen name'
[04:53] <nothlit> sapage, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Windows
[04:53] <n2diy> jeff_: ah sn = screen name. :)
[04:53] <jeff_> yea sorry
[04:54] <jeff_> does anyone have any Ideas?
[04:54] <niru> nothlit:but before that it should at least ping
[04:54] <lotacus> I had a problem once with not being able to log in.. I think all I did was delete my gaim account close it then restart gaim and re-add it.
[04:54] <n2diy> jeff_: I'm not using gaim, so, good luck.
[04:54] <niru> nothlit:its not pinging to any system
[04:54] <jeff_> thanks
[04:54] <mzanfardino1> I've run into a bit of a problem.  I've attempted to install the latest nvidia driver and now have lost my desktop completely.  Is there anyway to recover?
[04:54] <CITguy> can someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for samba?
[04:55] <jeff_> are there any other clients that you guys would recommend until I manage to fix gaim
[04:55] <lotacus> amsn?
[04:55] <n2diy> CITguy: samba.org?
[04:55] <nothlit> niru, well your network may not be configured correctly, or perhaps the server has a firewall?
[04:55] <arrenlex> !samba | CITguy
[04:55] <ubotu> CITguy: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:55] <jeff_> will amsn work on the aim network?
[04:55] <arrenlex> jeff_: No
[04:55] <lotacus> oh
[04:55] <lotacus> ok
[04:55] <niru> nothlit:has ubuntu any firewall?
[04:55] <lotacus> you have aol account
[04:55] <jeff_> kk
[04:56] <niru> nothlit:but my other systems are pinging
[04:56] <jeff_> then I'm just going to google one
[04:56] <CITguy> is samba what i want to use in order to share files between two Linux machines?
[04:56] <nothlit> niru, um by default? only iptables/netfilter
[04:56] <jeff_> thanks
[04:56] <lotacus> well you can always do a search in synaptic
[04:56] <bulmer> CITguy: no, you can use nfs
[04:56] <n2diy> niru: yes, Firestarter is a good front end for it.
[04:56] <lotacus> most of the apps that I installed were by doing a search and they all seemed pretty good (expept for the horrid games)
[04:56] <mzanfardino1> ok, need a little help getting gnome back up and running.  what utility can I run from CLI to reinstall a working desktop?
[04:56] <niru> n2diy:how can i stop it
[04:56] <callas> ?
[04:57] <arrenlex> mzanfardino1: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <nothlit> !nfs | CITguy
[04:57] <ubotu> CITguy: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:57] <lotacus> you may want to uninstall it first
[04:57] <n2diy> niru: do you have Firestarter installed?
[04:57] <lotacus> because it's going to say it's already installed
[04:57] <nothlit> CITguy, well if you have SSH setup, you can always use that
[04:57] <niru> n2diy:In ubuntu no
[04:57] <CITguy> thanks, i'll give those a try
[04:57] <nothlit> CITguy, but between two linux machines? Rofl samba is a windows thing
[04:57] <lotacus> apt-get --uninstall ubuntu-desktop and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <n2diy> niru: ok, thati is how I do it, ask the group here how to do it.
[04:58] <lotacus> unless there is a reinstall command
[04:58] <craigbass1976> nothlit, but isn't samba more versatile than nfs?
[04:58] <zero888> How would i have FIrestarter on boot???????
[04:58] <CITguy> well, (unfortunately) i also have a winblows box that i need to share files across as well
[04:58] <n2diy> niru: they firewall is called ipchains, or iptables.
[04:58] <arrenlex> lotacus: a) ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. What do you expect to gain by removing\reinstalling it? b) There is a reinstall command c) apt-get --uninstall is wrong synatax
[04:58] <arrenlex> syntax*
[04:58] <nothlit> craigbass1976, what are you trying to do? set up shares on windows domains or something?
[04:59] <mzanfardino1> I've already installed the desktop.  It's just that the video driver isn't loading
[04:59] <craigbass1976> nothlit, I don't knwo a whole lot about samba, I think I'd jsut heard that somewhere.
[04:59] <gregg> how do i install vmware so that I can run windows programs
[04:59] <lotacus> arrenlex I was just stating that it will say it's already installed and do nothing, there for whatever he did to break gnome will still be there.
[04:59] <arrenlex> mzanfardino1: That's completely different. That's X. What card?
[04:59] <gregg> do you have any suggestions for what to use to run windows programs
[04:59] <SilenceGold> gregg go to www.howtoforge.com
[04:59] <mzanfardino1> arrenlex: nvidia
[04:59] <arrenlex> !wine | gregg
[04:59] <ubotu> gregg: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> I have Firefox 2.0 installed, all plugins(flash9, etc..) work perfectly.  I just installed Opera, how do I get opera to detect flash 9 so i can use it under opera
[04:59] <SilenceGold> there's a tutorial there about installing vmware on ubuntu
[04:59] <nothlit> craigbass1976, I doubt you needs exceed either nfs or samba
[04:59] <arrenlex> mzanfardino1: Do you want 3D acceleration?
[04:59] <nothlit> craigbass1976, but nfs is definitely more linuxy
[05:00] <EnsignRedshirt> gregg: For some programs, wine works just fine.
[05:00] <gregg> I tried installing wine but I don't know how to start running windows programs
[05:00] <mzanfardino1> arrenlex: GeForce 5600
[05:00] <arrenlex> mzanfardino1: Do you want 3D acceleration?
[05:00] <lotacus> you can get FreeNAS and run a dedicated box
[05:00] <zero888> Excuse me, how would i can i get firestarter to start everytime i start my computer? even a link would be nice :)
[05:00] <mzanfardino1> arrenlex: and I've recently downloaded the latest nvidia driver
[05:00] <gregg> Can I run them from my other hard drive which they are installed
[05:00] <mzanfardino1> arrenlex: yes
[05:00] <EnsignRedshirt> gregg: In a terminal: wine program.exe
[05:00] <arrenlex> mzanfardino1: Do you know there's a guide?
[05:00] <arrenlex> !nvidia | mzanfardino1
[05:00] <ubotu> mzanfardino1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:00] <Tox> hi.where's temporary files folder in ubuntu ?
[05:00] <arrenlex> Tox: /tmp
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Tox: Which kind?
[05:00] <gregg> What do you mean "In a terminal"
[05:00] <arrenlex> Tox: Like in all Linux
[05:00] <Tox> yes
[05:01] <craigbass1976> nothlit, yeah.  I did have trouble though with a nfs share on a fedora box.  I was sharing no problem between fedora machines, but my UID on the Ubuntu box was 1000 and fedora's first one by default is 500.  All set now though
[05:01] <arrenlex> !cli | Tox
[05:01] <ubotu> Tox: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:01] <Tox> and its under ?
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> gregg: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[05:01] <gregg> I am clueless on how to run windows in linux
[05:01] <arrenlex> !cli | gregg
[05:01] <ubotu> gregg: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:01] <nothlit> IndyGunFreak, Tools, Preferences, Advanced, Content, Plug-in options, but opera should already have all the mozilla/firefox paths added
[05:01] <mzanfardino1> arrenlex: problem is, I'm limping along in cli atm... using irssi just to get on here.
[05:01] <arrenlex> (Sorry, tox, cli wasn't for you)
[05:01] <EnsignRedshirt> gregg: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[05:01] <lotacus> zero888,  system>administration>Sessions>Startup Programs then ADD and type in the command to start it up
[05:01] <nothlit> Tox, /tmp
[05:01] <nothlit> Tox, or /var/tmp
[05:01] <zYe> is there anywhere where all terminal commands are listed?
[05:01] <mzanfardino1> arrenlex: unless you can recommend a cli browser... I'm kinda sol
[05:01] <ubernoob> Hi, I was wondering about getting wireless to work on ubuntu...
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> zYe: See !cli above
[05:01] <Tox> nothlit: tnx!
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | ubernoob
[05:01] <ubotu> ubernoob: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:02] <nothlit> mzanfardino1, w3m is installed by default in ubuntu :)
[05:02] <arrenlex> mzanfardino1: That's not a problem. You can use the w3m or links console browser to see that site.
[05:02] <zYe> tony you talking about the basic commands link?
[05:02] <mzanfardino1> arrenlex: let me check that out
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> zYe: yeah
[05:02] <gregg> Okay I understand the terminal part but how do I start running windows programs already installed on my secondary Hard drive in linux Os
[05:02] <covOPprometheus> I can mount an external ntfs-drive with "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/PLAGUED" but the entry "/dev/sdb1 /media/PLAGUED ntfs-3g defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1" in fstab won't automount it at connect; it claims that only root can mount it. What do I have to do for it to automount properly?
[05:02] <zYe> well there are a lot more than that
[05:02] <zYe> eh
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> gregg: Running windows programs?  Why?
[05:02] <arrenlex> gregg: "wine <path to program>"
[05:02] <nothlit> gregg, well, most won't work, but you need to mount that partition and run them with wine /path/to/program.exe
[05:03] <gregg> I have programs I want to run that only work in windows
[05:03] <lotacus> gregg you have to install wine or a flavour of wine such as winex I think, Cedega, or  crossover
[05:03] <EnsignRedshirt> tonyyarusso: Believe it or not, there are one or two programs available in windows that are not available in linux. :)
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> EnsignRedshirt: Never!
[05:03] <gregg> what is the path to program
[05:03] <nothlit> gregg, otherwise, use vmware/qemu and just run the whole partition in emulation
[05:03] <arrenlex> lotacus: winex is the old name for cedega. Cedega is for games.
[05:03] <lotacus> ah
[05:03] <zYe> gregg its like saying
[05:03] <adamonline> EnsignRedshirt: Yeah, like counter-strike :(
[05:03] <n2diy> zYe: google bash
[05:03] <zYe> wine word.exe
[05:03] <nothlit> gregg, the filepath to the executable file
[05:04] <gregg> Oh...
[05:04] <zYe> yea
[05:04] <sapage> I am trying to mount a ntfs partition but when i try to cd into the mount point i get permission denied
[05:04] <covOPprometheus> tonyyarusso, then can you name me a graphic editor on linux than levels with Corel Graphic Suit?
[05:04] <gregg> do I have to have the hard drive mounted
[05:04] <arrenlex> sapage: Wrong permissions. How are you mounting it.
[05:04] <zYe> yes
[05:04] <arrenlex> ?
[05:04] <wolfwalker> Can someone recommend a good audio editor for ubuntu?
[05:04] <nothlit> but instead its wine C:/Program Files/Microsoft Office/winword.exe
[05:04] <arrenlex> wolfwalker: audacity
[05:04] <sapage> gregg: yes
[05:04] <gregg> Oh...I see
[05:04] <n2diy> wolfwalker: audacity
[05:04] <wolfwalker> Got that
[05:04] <lotacus> sapage if you have special permissions set on your NTFS drive and encryption, then you won't be able to get into it from linux
[05:04] <nothlit> definitely audacity :)
[05:04] <adamonline> wolfwalker: I second Audacity
[05:04] <sapage> arrenlex: i followed the guide form ubuntu
[05:04] <wolfwalker> Heard something about ardour
[05:04] <craigbass1976> wolfwalker, I'm diggin ardour for multitrack
[05:04] <wolfwalker> But I can't find it
[05:05] <arrenlex> sapage: Link me to this guide of yours, please.
[05:05] <gregg> I have vm ware installed on my computer
[05:05] <sapage> no encryption
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> covOPprometheus: I don't know what corel is like, but I use a combination of Gimp and Inkscape for most things.
[05:05] <gregg> How do I get it to run programs on secondary hard drive
[05:05] <nothlit> sapage, make sure you added the correct mounting options in fstab
[05:05] <arrenlex> gregg: By mounting it.
[05:05] <gregg> Also, how do I get my secondary hard drive to boot up
[05:05] <adamonline> While we're on the topic, what about a sample sequencing software?
[05:05] <nothlit> sapage, if you're still having trouble, you can add uid=sapage or something :)
[05:05] <sapage> !ntfs-3g
[05:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:05] <gregg> It doesn't show up in my files when i boot up
[05:05] <craigbass1976> wolfwalker, It's in one of the apt repos.  I simply did apt-get install ardour, but I don't remember what had to be enabled first.  You also need JACK
[05:05] <gregg> How do I mount it
[05:05] <covOPprometheus> tonyyarusso, gimp doesn't convince me, been struggling around for a while but can't get my ideas onto the bitmap
[05:06] <arrenlex> sapage: Oh, you're trying ntfs-3g? Sorry, can't help you with that; never needed to write to my ntfs partitions.
[05:06] <nothlit> !inksacpe | covOPprometheus
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inksacpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <nothlit> !inkscape | covOPprometheus
[05:06] <ubotu> covOPprometheus: Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[05:06] <gregg> Sorry for all the questions, I am a newbie
[05:06] <wolfwalker> craigbass1976:  This may sound like a bad joke, but I don't know jack
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> covOPprometheus: Try inkscape then - vectors instead of bitmap
[05:06] <sapage> i dont want to write i just want to read
[05:06] <lotacus> i'm using ntfs3g just perfect
[05:06] <sapage> but people keep pointing me to this
[05:06] <arrenlex> sapage: Then why are you trying to install ntfs-3g?
[05:06] <gregg> I am interested in linux but it is a bit of a chore to get things running with it
[05:06] <wolfwalker> !ardour
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <wolfwalker> :/
[05:06] <covOPprometheus> nothlit, tonyyarusso :S doesn't work quiet well for a webdesigner haha
[05:06] <sapage> how do i mount an ntfs partition just for read then?
[05:06] <gregg> Any one know how to use vmware
[05:06] <lotacus> gregg, it was a chore the first time you got windows
[05:06] <arrenlex> sapage: Don't. Reading is very easy. Do you know the device name (/dev/sda1 or whatever) of your ntfs partition?
[05:07] <EnsignRedshirt> covOPprometheus: What kind of graphics editing are you looking for?  For photo editing, Lightzone has a linux version--and it is free.
[05:07] <sapage> yes i got it all right
[05:07] <sapage> i have done this once before
[05:07] <gregg> Yes, but executable files seem much easier to manage
[05:07] <craigbass1976> wolfwalker, hehe.  It's the "Jack Audio Connectin Kit" and though I don't know much jack either, it seems to be some sort of go between for Ardour and ALSA.
[05:07] <gregg> lotacus do you know how to run vmware
[05:07] <sapage> just dont have permission to the mount point
[05:07] <lotacus> no, they are just want you  are accustomed to
[05:07] <arrenlex> sapage: Put a line like this in your fstab:      /dev/sda1       /win/C          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       0
[05:07] <arrenlex> sapage: adjust to your mountpoint and folder.
[05:07] <lotacus> gregg, I only used it in windows
[05:07] <theflyingfool> does anyone know if gmail is down, i cant seem to get a connection with evolution
[05:07] <wolfwalker> Okay, so how do I get jack?
[05:07] <sapage> arrenlex: ta
[05:07] <gregg> lotacus it is installed on my computer with icon but I don't know how to use it
[05:08] <lotacus> yea, and you can get it to run
[05:08] <arrenlex> sapage: the umask=000 basically means "everyone can read this folder". if that's too loose for you, adjust this permission. umask is the opposite of the hexcode you'd use in chmod: chmod 777 = umask 000
[05:08] <lotacus> i dont know how it functions in linux
[05:08] <gregg> Will wine run most executable files
[05:08] <covOPprometheus> EnsignRedshirt, I'm looking for a complete pixel-graphics-editor, sort of photoshop and others, hehe or someone that helps me to get the last 20% of corel working under wine (draw already works at it's full) ;)
[05:08] <bjv> opengl headers could not be found because of a missing symlink
[05:09] <arrenlex> gregg: you should look on http://appdb.winehq.org for your program. You have about a 50/50 chance of it starting at all.
[05:09] <bjv> config script expected to find them in /usr/X11R6/include/GL/
[05:09] <EnsignRedshirt> covOPprometheus: I also use Picture Window Pro 3.5.  This is a commercial windows program, but I have had no problems running it in wine.
[05:09] <gregg> So what good is it to convert to linux if I can't run my windows programs that I have installed
[05:09] <semi-fly> ....
[05:10] <sapage> arrenlex: when i create the mount point in /media/ do i need to change the permission on that folder?
[05:10] <theflyingfool> gregg: there are probably good replacements for the windows progs
[05:10] <arrenlex> sapage: It won't do any good.
[05:10] <arrenlex> sapage: AFAIK.
[05:10] <EnsignRedshirt> covOPprometheus: But it is primarily a photo editor, not for full blown graphics layout stuff.
[05:10] <covOPprometheus> EnsignRedshirt, what are you working for?
[05:10] <sapage> ok
[05:10] <EnsignRedshirt> covOPprometheus: Just personal hobby use.
[05:10] <gregg> theflyingfool but these programs I have to run, Linux does not have them
[05:10] <n2diy> gregg:  you don't have to pay tribute to M$ every few years. You don't havet to worry about virus, and worms, etc...
[05:10] <theflyingfool> gregg:  what programs are you trying to run?
[05:11] <nothlit> gregg, there are lots of software equivalents for things from windows
[05:11] <arrenlex> gregg: Some people use Linux because it's Free, or because they're tired of Windows or Microsoft. If you don't like it, don't use it. It's not for everyone.
[05:11] <wolfwalker> Pay tribute
[05:11] <wolfwalker> lol
[05:11] <Popo1> theflyingfool: tha's a good question
[05:11] <arrenlex> gregg: Good point... No virii\spyware.
[05:11] <covOPprometheus> EnsignRedshirt, hmm ok, I'll take a look at them, but I seriously doubt that they will be sufficient
[05:11] <n2diy> gregg:  And you don't have to upgrade hardware to run the new software.
[05:12] <lotacus> I tried linux again because I was bored of windows
[05:12] <lotacus> lol;
[05:12] <wolfwalker> So how and where do I get ardour?
[05:12] <n2diy> wolfwalker: google?
[05:12] <theflyingfool> whats the wine list of working apps url
[05:12] <gregg> arrenlex  I want to run 64 bit processor and Linux is good with this but I can't run my programs on linux.  they are not windows programs, they are programs installed on Windows OS
[05:12] <arrenlex> !ardour-gtk | wolfwalker
[05:12] <ubotu> ardour-gtk: digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-2build1 (edgy), package size 2188 kB, installed size 5992 kB
[05:12] <kitche> theflyingfool: winehq.com appdb
[05:12] <covOPprometheus> EnsignRedshirt, but thanks anyway
[05:12] <sushi_> lotacus : think of all the GB's you'd have if you just deleted windows for good
[05:12] <dick-richardson> How do I prevent Ubuntu from automatically logging onto unsecured wifi access points on boot?
[05:12] <Popo1> I use Linux 'cause the community treat me like a User, not like a client
[05:12] <covOPprometheus> I can mount an external ntfs-drive with "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/PLAGUED" but the entry "/dev/sdb1 /media/PLAGUED ntfs-3g defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1" in fstab won't automount it at connect; it claims that only root can mount it. What do I have to do for it to automount properly?
[05:12] <arrenlex> gregg: If they are designed for Windows, they are Windows programs.
[05:12] <lotacus> sushi_ I have actually concidered it
[05:13] <gregg> arrenlex:  oh
[05:13] <lotacus> ubuntu has lasted longer on my system then any other distro
[05:13] <sushi_> lotacus : i just did a few weeks ago i havent had to log into windows it feels so nice
[05:13] <theflyingfool> D*** IT evoluton keeps tyming out on downloading my gmail account
[05:13] <wolfwalker> YAY!
[05:13] <arrenlex> gregg: I also urge you not to use 64-bit Linux. You will not get any benefits from a 64-bit machine for normal desktop use, and it creates a lot of compatibility headaches (for example, no Flash, no wine, no binary media codecs... or, at least, these things are very hard to set up)
[05:13] <piao> is any body use ipod shuffle 2   in ubuntu?
[05:13] <wolfwalker> I didn't know it was ardour-gtk
[05:13] <EnsignRedshirt> covOPprometheus: Sure thing.  Since I am just interested tweaking digital photos, they work for me.
[05:13] <wolfwalker> They just told me ardour
[05:13] <wolfwalker> :/
[05:14] <craigbass1976> wolfwalker, huh? I havne't been following...
[05:14] <sushi_> theflyingfool : im 99% sure that its a configuration problem       check youor settings
[05:14] <arrenlex> wolfwalker: apt-cache search <terms> is your best friend
[05:14] <lotacus> sushi_ I will problem take the leap when I get accustomed to being able to fix things if something goes wrong. So when I know basic commands and syntax, and I can trouble shoot problems on my own, then I will move over from windows.
[05:14] <wolfwalker> Eh?
[05:14] <wolfwalker> Elaborate please arrenlex
[05:14] <EnsignRedshirt> wolfwalker: ...or packages.ubunut.com
[05:14] <theflyingfool> sushi_: all my settings worked yesterday...
[05:14] <carkeys> Hey everybody!... i got jsut a few questions.  is there a Peer Guardian like application for Ubuntu (one w/ a GUI) and is there a better alternative to Vmware ( i need to emulate a Xp instal for dreamweaver 08 and office 07)  Thanks.
[05:14] <sushi_> lotacus : you're right it does take some research and reading but its worth it
[05:14] <lotacus> like last time I reinstalled Ubuntu because I messed up my xorg.conf and I didnt know how to fix it in console. LOL
[05:14] <EnsignRedshirt> wolfwalker: oops: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:14] <arrenlex> wolfwalker: apt-cache search is a command used to search for available packages. I typed in "apt-cache search ardour" and it gave me a list of packages matching "ardour" in description or string.
[05:15] <arrenlex> wolfwalker: I suppose you could also use the search feature of synaptic, or packages.ubuntu.com
[05:15] <sushi_> lotacus : tar your /etc directory often
[05:15] <theflyingfool> how do i clean the out the cache of downloaded packages, via command line
[05:15] <arrenlex> theflyingfool: apt-get clean
[05:15] <nothlit> apt-get clean
[05:15] <wolfwalker> Neat
[05:15] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[05:15] <Tox> need an advice .. what model of printer i shud buy  ubuntu cud recognise
[05:15] <theflyingfool> thnx guys
[05:15] <dick-richardson> How do I prevent Ubuntu from automatically logging onto unsecured wifi access points on boot?
[05:15] <nothlit> !hardware
[05:15] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:15] <arrenlex> Tox: HP is very good about their Linux support.
[05:15] <zYe> hey my clock keeps moving in the middle of my panel
[05:15] <zYe> when i change resolution it is fine
[05:16] <n2diy> ! hardware | Tox
[05:16] <ubotu> Tox: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:16] <craigbass1976> zYe, time flies...
[05:16] <Tox> try deskjet  ..
[05:16] <Tox> 1020
[05:16] <wolfwalker> Thanks to all
[05:16] <kitche> Tox: any hp will probably work
[05:16] <arrenlex> wolfwalker: yw
[05:16] <Tox> hp sucks the same as Trust as cam
[05:16] <lotacus> I could not believe that Ubuntu recognized my Logitech headset and Nostromo game pad LOL
[05:16] <wolfwalker> And especiall to arrenlex
[05:16] <zYe> i want my clock back to the right corner!
[05:16] <arrenlex> ;)
[05:17] <theflyingfool> whats the command to check if ipv6 is working or dead sys wide
[05:17] <dick-richardson> zYe: unlock it from the panel and move it
[05:17] <sapage> arrenlex: i did as you said but everytime i try to look at the point i mounted it i get a permission error
[05:17] <kitche> Tox: well their printers work nice in Linux, and pretty much every computer company is bad actually
[05:17] <kitche> theflyingfool: ip a|grep ipv6
[05:17] <arrenlex> sapage: That's a configuration file. You'd need to mount the partition.
[05:17] <zee707> hi
[05:17] <dick-richardson> How do I prevent Ubuntu from automatically logging onto unsecured wifi access points on boot?
[05:17] <Tox> not all
[05:17] <zYe> it isnt movin
[05:18] <arrenlex> sapage: Keep running "sudo umount <mountpoint>" until it tells you nothing is mounted. Then run "mount <mountpoint>" WITHOUT sudo
[05:18] <zYe> nvm
[05:18] <dick-richardson> right click on it, the choose move
[05:18] <arrenlex> sapage: Or just reboot. This will sort itself out on restart.
[05:18] <theflyingfool> i have an odd question, with ip a|grep ipv6 nothing shows up, but firefox didnt work until i disalbed ipv6 through it
[05:18] <sushi_> Anyone know how to remove the password prompt after closing my laptop lid?  It's annoying (xubuntu)
[05:18] <zee707> anyone know a way to install libxss-dev on edgy (it has dependency problems) ?
[05:18] <kitche> dick-richardson: have your wirless card not come on at boot or turn off the scanning feature
[05:18] <Tox> its a curse i buy hardware ubuntu cant recognise lol
[05:18] <dick-richardson> sushi_: alt-f2, then type gconf-editor
[05:19] <sushi_> dick-richardson: i use xfce not gnome
[05:19] <EnsignRedshirt> Tox: You could pretend to install a printer, and take a look at the list of Manufacturers and Models that show up (Use System ->Administration -> Printing)
[05:19] <arrenlex> Dammit. My chair armrests are on different levels because one is broken and it's so disorienting. >=|
[05:19] <sapage> arrenlex: sapage@sap:~$ mount /dev/sdb2 /media/storage/
[05:19] <sapage> mount: only root can do that
[05:19] <dick-richardson> sushi_: ahh...not sure which file gets changed...
[05:19] <arrenlex> sapage: No.
[05:19] <sushi_> zee707 maybe the dependencies are located on a repository that is not in your apt sources list
[05:19] <Flannel> sapage: use sudo
[05:19] <sapage> i unmounted it
[05:19] <sapage> sudo mount?
[05:19] <Flannel> sapage: right, prepend sudo to your command
[05:19] <Tox> that model is in the list but dznt work
[05:19] <arrenlex> sapage: Keep running "sudo umount /media/storage" until it tells you that nothing is mounted. Then run "mount /dev/sdb2"
[05:20] <carkeys> can somebody answer a question of mine ?
[05:20] <sapage> o ok
[05:20] <arrenlex> Flannel: No. He wants to put it into fstab so he has read permission.
[05:20] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: Unless there is a dpkg-reconfigure armrests command, I don't think we can help you with that.
[05:20] <n2diy> carkeys: not unless you ask it.
[05:20] <mark__o> Anyone have experience with Automatix, Medibuntu, and Easyubuntu, on Edgy? What order to use them in? Should all be used?
[05:20] <Flannel> !automatix | mark__o
[05:20] <ubotu> mark__o: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:20] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Stupid #ubuntu channel! You're so unhelpful!  Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:21] <carkeys> n2diy: is there a peer guardian like application for ubuntu ?
[05:21] <Tox> EnsignRedshirt: read more on internet about hp deskjet 1020 and driver for it on internet
[05:21] <n2diy> carkeys: what is peer guardian?
[05:21] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: At least there you could pay some big bucks and get some new Microsoft armrests.
[05:21] <nothlit> !easyubuntu | mark__o
[05:21] <ubotu> mark__o: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:21] <carkeys> n2diy: its a firewall.
[05:21] <dick-richardson> content filter, isn't it?
[05:21] <lotacus> peer guardian. wow I miss that ap
[05:21] <Flannel> arrenlex, sapage, you need a umask to make it readable/writable by people.  not running mount as a regular user.  but, fstab is different than mounting.
[05:21] <ubernoob> grr this wireless is pissin me off lol
[05:21] <funkdollar> hello folks - how can i change the hostname safely ? By edit /etc/hostname by hand ?
[05:21] <Tox> !hp
[05:21] <carkeys> n2diy: ill link you if oyu need it
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <kitche> !hostname|funkdollar
[05:22] <Flannel> !hostname | funkdollar
[05:22] <ubotu> funkdollar: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[05:22] <nothlit> mark__o, i recommend just following the wiki to get java/flash/codecs working
[05:22] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Maybe... but I would have to rest my elbows on a proprietary armrest and I couldn't move to a different armrest in the future because I wouldn't be able to use my old arm positions. = /
[05:22] <n2diy> carkeys: yes, it is already installed, if you are running X install Firestarter, and you'll have a nice front end to it.
[05:22] <theflyingfool> Stupid ?, why cant i edit tags with Rhythmbox
[05:22] <lotacus> it's nice now that I installed the 32bit version of firefox. could never get anytihng to work properly with the 64bit version.
[05:22] <arrenlex> Flannel: Yes, we put a umask in the fstab.  I believe similar
[05:22] <dick-richardson> bah, firestarter...learning iptables takes some time, but you know you're setting your network up the way you want
[05:23] <carkeys> n2diy: thats a front end for IPtables. i need Peer guardian (it has special lists that i use)
[05:23] <funkdollar> ubernoob, wireless has always been a pain
[05:23] <arrenlex> sapage: Thankfully, you don't have to do this again :) Now that it's in your fstab, it will automount on boot with proper permissions.
[05:23] <funkdollar> Flannel, thank you :-)
[05:23] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: Yeah, and... nah, I'll stop now :)
[05:23] <Flannel> arrenlex: ah, sorry.  That's what I get for coming in halfway into a help session
[05:23] <arrenlex> sapage: Which is what you want, right?
[05:23] <nothlit> dick-richardson, eh, i just use a router
[05:23] <kitche> dick-richardson: you do know firestarter is just a frontend to iptables so in reality your still using iptables :P
[05:23] <n2diy> carkeys: ok, good luck.
[05:23] <dick-richardson> nothlit: even easier :D
[05:23] <Flannel> carkeys: check out dansguardian
[05:23] <ubernoob> yeah funkdollar... it's a 4318 broadcom... trying to figure out where i went wrong in the forum post.
[05:24] <sapage> yep
[05:24] <dick-richardson> kitche: true, but it throws a ton of rules that I don't particularly care about
[05:24] <sapage> just working out the permissions was all
[05:24] <mark__o> nothlit: really? how about EasyUbuntu, that one looks good
[05:24] <fiveiron> is there a way to set the sytem to use a non-graphical startup?
[05:24] <nothlit> !restrictedcodecs
[05:24] <arrenlex> fiveiron: Permanently? Remove the gdm package.
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictedcodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | nothlit
[05:24] <ubotu> nothlit: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[05:24] <nothlit> !codecs | mark__o
[05:24] <ubotu> mark__o: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <fiveiron> arrenlex: i mean not to use the ubuntu loading bar
[05:24] <dick-richardson> EasyUbuntu is alright...better is just to add repos and install yourself
[05:24] <n2diy> ! intit
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <funkdollar> ubernoob, thats the same piece of shit i have
[05:25] <n2diy> ! init
[05:25] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:25] <arrenlex> fiveiron: What do you want instead? startx?
[05:25] <funkdollar> ubernoob, the opensource driver _never_worked for me
[05:25] <nothlit> Why does the factoid mention bum but not rcconf
[05:25] <lotacus> could you not just use snort?
[05:25] <funkdollar> ubernoob, i am currently using ndiswrapper and it works like a charm
[05:25] <ubernoob> funkdollar, what did you have to do?
[05:25] <fiveiron> arrenlex: ....  dude... all I want is to monitor the startup as it happens... i still want the system to boot into gdm... just not show the Ubuntu Logo and the loading bar AS the system boots
[05:26] <ubernoob> yeah i have ndiswrapper up, but i keep getting a driver error installing
[05:26] <dick-richardson> Is there a way to prevent Ubuntu from auto connecting to open wifi access points on boot...shy of turning the radio off?
[05:26] <Flannel> fiveiron: you need to remove quiet and splash from your boot options (grub menu)
[05:26] <kitche> fiveiron: what do you mean by non-graphical though the bootsplash or the gdm?
[05:26] <arrenlex> fiveiron: Oh! That boot. That's easy. Go into /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove "quiet" from the kopt line
[05:26] <arrenlex> fiveiron: (and splash)
[05:26] <fiveiron> thx
[05:26] <carkeys> One other question: is there a better alternative to Vmware ( i need to emulate XP sp2) ?
[05:26] <arrenlex> fiveiron: then run sudo update-grub
[05:26] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to edit tags through rhythmbox or if there is a similar player that allows tag editing
[05:26] <ubernoob> funkdollar it says: "couldn't copy /broadcom/bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144
[05:27] <Popo1> theflyingfool: use EasyTag--- that app rox!!
[05:27] <funkdollar> ubernoob, here i am agin
[05:27] <ubernoob> funkdollar, what did you have to do?
[05:27] <ubernoob> yeah i have ndiswrapper up, but i keep getting a driver error installing
[05:27] <ubernoob> funkdollar it says: "couldn't copy /broadcom/bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144
[05:27] <funkdollar> ubernoob, tell me again what you did
[05:27] <nothlit> carkeys, vmware is the fastest, and easiest
[05:27] <nothlit> carkeys, you could use qemu or qemu+kqemu
[05:28] <ubernoob> funkdollar: sudo ndiswrapper -i /broadcom/bcmwl5.inf
[05:28] <Tox> !g alternatives
[05:28] <funkdollar> ubernoob, does the folder /broadcom exist ?
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g alternatives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <theflyingfool> Popo1:  i'll give it a try thanks for the tip
[05:28] <ubernoob> its on my desktop
[05:28] <funkdollar> try copying both the sys and the inf file inside one directory
[05:29] <Tox> !galternatives
[05:29] <beginn3r> god
[05:29] <ubotu> galternatives: graphical setup tool for the alternatives system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 276 kB
[05:29] <ubernoob> funkdollar can i pm you?
[05:29] <beginn3r> I had accidentally messed up with my /etc/passwd
[05:29] <arrenlex> beginn3r: That's me. What can I do you for?
[05:29] <beginn3r> what can I do?
[05:29] <funkdollar> ubernoob, shure
[05:29] <beginn3r> It's missing now
[05:29] <n2diy> arrenlex: :?
[05:29] <dick-richardson> beginn3r: have you tried running the passwd command in the applicable accounts?
[05:29] <carkeys> nothlit: thanks.
[05:30] <arrenlex> n2diy: (21:29:04) beginn3r: god
[05:30] <arrenlex> (21:29:17) arrenlex: beginn3r: That's me. What can I do you for?
[05:30] <carkeys> nothlit: ill look into vmware.  can it be installed through synaptics or am i going to have to do it manally?
[05:30] <theflyingfool> i know how to use && in command line, but why isnt it just &
[05:30] <bulmer> beginn3r: are you still log-on as root? then you can recreate the same file
[05:31] <jeff_> I just tried kopete and a new screen name
[05:31] <kitche> theflyingfool: & is typically to send a process to the background
[05:31] <funkdollar> ubernoob, where are you ?
[05:31] <arrenlex> theflyingfool: & means "return control to the terminal". Try it: gedit &
[05:31] <jeff_> and nothing will allow me to connect to aim
[05:31] <bulmer> if not..it will be tuff to log back on
[05:31] <beginn3r> arrenlex now I am getting message like
[05:31] <nothlit> carkeys, um vmware player i think can be done through the apt-get system, but server/workstation needs to be done manually, and you need to apply for a free key
[05:31] <beginn3r> exim: failed to find uid for user name Debian-exim
[05:31] <ubernoob> funkdollar what do you mean where am I?
[05:31] <beginn3r> I copied the /etc/shadow from  hoary
[05:31] <beginn3r> so I am able to login
[05:31] <mojojojo__> hi! Hi can I get older packages????? I'm trying to install a package but it requires older version dependency
[05:31] <beginn3r> but  it seems that many of the system users are missing
[05:31] <theflyingfool> arrenlex: wow thats sweet, now i dont have to wait to finish for my next command
[05:32] <mojojojo__> it uses to work before upgrading to edgy :/
[05:32] <dick-richardson> how do I remove all files found when running the locate command?
[05:32] <mojojojo__> used*
[05:32] <riyonuk_> Can I run fluxbox and murrine together?
[05:32] <bulmer> beginn3r: every entry in /etc/shadow should have a corrresponding user in /etc/passwd
[05:32] <carkeys> nothlit: ok, i found more detailed info on their website.
[05:32] <beginn3r> bulmer for some weird reason
[05:32] <theflyingfool> Popo1:  does easy tag allow searching of media?
[05:32] <lotacus> i lov eyou
[05:32] <beginn3r> /etc/shadow wasn't there after installing  from bootstrap
[05:32] <funkdollar> riyonuk_,  if you are talking about the gtk2 theme yes - if you are talking about metacity no
[05:32] <arrenlex> theflyingfool: If you close your terminal, though, they'll all still die. Use ctrl+d to close your terminal without killing them all.
[05:33] <beginn3r> the reason why I copied from hoary
[05:33] <beginn3r> but I forgot that I should add an entry
[05:33] <juxhi> hello
[05:33] <n2diy> dick-richardson: repeat the question, and be more specific?
[05:33] <beginn3r> instead of replacing the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[05:33] <juxhi> can some one help me?
[05:33] <theflyingfool> i love irc its the fastest way to learn things that arnt always right in front of ones face
[05:33] <jharen> hello whats the website for cheking my pcinfo?what im running,what specs,what OS...?thanks
[05:33] <facugaich> !justask | juxhi
[05:33] <ubotu> juxhi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:33] <nothlit> !vmware | carkeys
[05:33] <ubotu> carkeys: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[05:33] <n2diy> theflyingfool: 10-4
[05:33] <dick-richardson> n2diy: locate firestarter > sudo rm
[05:34] <dick-richardson> doesn't work
[05:34] <arrenlex> dick-richardson: I think you're looking for locate firestarter | xargs sudo rm
[05:34] <juxhi> ok my laptop doesn't list my pcmcia wireless card in the lspci
[05:34] <riyonuk_> alrighty thanks
[05:34] <PirateHead> I'm having trouble UN-installing packages in Ubuntu 6.10. dpkg swears that the package has been removed, but there are still data files left in /usr/share/applications/whatever, etc
[05:34] <arrenlex> dick-richardson: Please be careful running that, though.
[05:34] <beginn3r> any solution??
[05:34] <nothlit> riyonuk_, yeas, murrine is just a gtk theme engine, doesn't affect a window manager
[05:34] <dick-richardson> arrenlex: will do..I've gone through everything found int he locate and I don't want any of it
[05:35] <beginn3r> bulmer, ?
[05:35] <n2diy> theflyingfool: why not just un-install firestarter?
[05:35] <bulmer> beginn3r: every entry in /etc/shadow should have a corrresponding user in /etc/passwd..so you can copy /etc/shadow but remove the field for password and replace it with x
[05:35] <n2diy> theflyingfool: whoops, ignore last.
[05:35] <mister_roboto> PirateHead: you need to use  --purge
[05:35] <juxhi> how do i make it see the card
[05:35] <dick-richardson> arrenlex: thank you!
[05:35] <sapage> can you map all the buttons on a logitech mx500?
[05:36] <dick-richardson> n2diy: it is uninstalled, it left a bunch of crap
[05:36] <n2diy> dick-richardson:  why not just un-install firestarter?
[05:36] <sapage> i want to be able to use button 5 as a back button like in windows
[05:36] <beginn3r> the problem is /etc/shadow wasn't there  after I installed my edgy
[05:36] <n2diy> dick-richardson:  ok
[05:36] <dick-richardson> language .xml files mostly...was just bugging me
[05:36] <beginn3r> so i copied from ubuntu hoary
[05:36] <beginn3r> togethe r with  the /etc/passwd
[05:36] <ubernoob> funkdollar i sent you a pm
[05:36] <PirateHead> mister_roboto: I was under the impression that --purge only deleted some sort of residual config files, and a normal uninstall shoudl remove data files
[05:36] <PirateHead> mister_roboto: am I wrong in that assumption?
[05:36] <juxhi> i did ask a question hmmm no answer?
[05:37] <bulmer> beginn3r: what do you have now?..and if you are playing around anyways..might as well re-install
[05:37] <beginn3r> but I didn't overwrite /etc/group though
[05:37] <mister_roboto> read the man page PirateHead
[05:37] <PirateHead> k, will re-read. thanks.
[05:37] <funkdollar> ubernoob, wait i didnt get it because it was blocked
[05:38] <ubernoob> funkdollar i have to register quick
[05:38] <n2diy> dick-richardson: > is used for piping input and output, try & in its place.
[05:38] <theflyingfool> how do i figure out what key a key in keyboard shortcuts is talking about
[05:38] <funkdollar> ubernoob, i am registered and authenticated now
[05:38] <zYe> i have a .dll file i want to add to a wine directory
[05:38] <beginn3r> any smarter solution rather than re-install?
[05:38] <zYe> how can i
[05:38] <funkdollar> ubernoob, dont worry speak it up in here thats what the room is for
[05:38] <n2diy> dick-richardson:  or maybe it is &&
[05:39] <mister_roboto> PirateHead: uninstall still leaves data files hanging around
[05:39] <jaggz-> where's the install log?  I just used aptitude to install "fdupes", and it installed python2.3 (or 3.2 or something), and then my vi stopped working and the vim binary seems to be missing.. what the hell happened?
[05:39] <n2diy> jaggz-: /var/log
[05:39] <uberno0b> okay funkdollar... how is the file system set up in linux? I just got it today for the first time ever.
[05:39] <sapage> where do i put themes in ubuntu so i can use them?
[05:39] <jaggz-> I hope this "remove duplicate files script" didn't remove stuff on my system
[05:39] <funkdollar> uberno0b, first of all get rid of everything related to the opensource bcm4318 drive
[05:39] <funkdollar> uberno0b, first of all get rid of everything related to the opensource bcm4318 driver
[05:39] <uberno0b> funkdollar I have it blacklisted.
[05:39] <zYe> how can i put a .dll into the wine system???????
[05:40] <jaggz-> zye, google for:  install dll wine   ?
[05:40] <blueprints88888> can anyone give some help with AIrcrack or Aireplay??????
[05:40] <theflyingfool> where are keymaps stored, so i can look at them
[05:40] <jaggz-> I would have googled for my answer, but I like associating with people .. thanks n2diy
[05:40] <kreativefinally> hello
[05:40] <funkdollar> write:  sudo lsmod|grep -i bcm
[05:40] <funkdollar> and tell me what it says
[05:40] <Tehkewl1> I have had something bothering me for some time now, my laptop has an ati radeon mobility, running Kubuntu 6.06. The problem is that every so often (more often than not) it fails to change resolution and crashes, leaving me with a screen with a screwed up stripy pattern on my screen
[05:41] <funkdollar> if it doesnt fond it it is ok
[05:41] <arrenlex> funkdollar: Why do you need to use sudo to list modules?
[05:41] <n2diy> jaggz-: roger that, plenty of them here!
[05:41] <jaggz-> [REMOVE, NOT USED]  vim
[05:41] <Tehkewl1> then I have to hold the power button now
[05:41] <TaJMoX> Tehkewl1 : you use fglrx ?
[05:41] <nothlit> Tehkewl1, what video driver are you using
[05:41] <funkdollar> arrenlex, you dont wrong of me
[05:41] <lotacus> nah sounds like he's using proprietary.
[05:41] <jaggz-> lol.. not used.. it must have something to do with using checkinstall to install my own compiled version of vim
[05:41] <funkdollar> but its a simple list command
[05:41] <arrenlex> funkdollar: come again? o_O
[05:41] <beginn3r> anyone can really  help me with  that?
[05:41] <uberno0b> and funkdollar i have been trying to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809&page=1
[05:41] <n2diy> theflyingfool: check out "man loadkeys"
[05:42] <bulmer> beginn3r: you dont understand what I suggested?
[05:42] <funkdollar> arrenlex, i mean it was my mistake but not a fatal one since the command will list the required modules
[05:42] <Tehkewl1> I dunno what I'm using, whatever kubuntu had built in
[05:42] <jaggz-> how can I tell ubuntu/debian that my vim install is used??? lol
[05:42] <kitche> jaggz-: ?
[05:42] <arrenlex> funkdollar: I know. I was just commenting for your knowledge.
[05:42] <jaggz-> kitche, hey there!  nice to see you again
[05:42] <beginn3r> BUlmer? to reinstall?
[05:42] <beginn3r> I replied
[05:43] <beginn3r> whether there is better  solution than that..
[05:43] <beginn3r> :)
[05:43] <kitche> jaggz-: so you don't have vim or vi
[05:43] <bulmer> beginn3r: i missed it...yeah maybe you need to re-install..but you also did not read the other suggestion
[05:43] <nothlit> jaggz-, you uninstall ubuntu's vim
[05:43] <Andymeows> can anyone recommend a good book on linux device drivers using C?
[05:43] <juxhi> so no answer to the pcmcia question?
[05:43] <nothlit> jaggz-, checkinstall automatically installs your prog for you
[05:43] <beginn3r> bulmer, what is the other suggestion?
[05:43] <beginn3r> copying  the /etc/shadow?
[05:43] <beginn3r> which I  already  replied too?
[05:43] <bulmer> beginn3r: every entry in /etc/shadow should have a corrresponding user in /etc/passwd..so you can copy /etc/shadow but remove the field for password and replace it with x
[05:44] <jaggz-> I uninstalled ubuntu's vim and compiled my own (the new package wasn't available, so I compiled one, then used "checkinstall" to install it under the new name and version)
[05:44] <bulmer> Andymeows: hang on..let me check
[05:44] <beginn3r> bulmer,I guess you didn't read my reply on that...
[05:44] <jaggz-> it installed fine, and I've been using it.. but aptitude just uninstalled vim automatically upon installation of an unrelated program
[05:44] <n2diy> Andymeows: google for Jan Axelrod and parallel ports.
[05:44] <funkdollar> uberno0b, make a directory in your home folder called BCM4318 or sthing easy to distinguish
[05:44] <funkdollar> copy there all required windows drivers
[05:44] <theflyingfool> the locations in man keyload is wrong
[05:44] <bulmer> Andymeows: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
[05:45] <dick-richardson> Is there a way to prevent Ubuntu from auto connecting to open wifi access points on boot...shy of turning the radio off?
[05:45] <kitche> jaggz-: my ubuntu did that to me actually for some reason
[05:45] <bulmer> beginn3r: no i have not..
[05:45] <n2diy> theflyingfool: I said loadkeys
[05:45] <uberno0b> funkdollar: so go to file broswer, click on home and then into the ubuntu folder?
[05:45] <jaggz-> kitche, I'm trying to figure out something.. perhaps something makes a package "standalone" or not..
[05:46] <kitche> jaggz-: it has to do with installing packages with a different package manager then the one you use at least it was for me
[05:46] <beginn3r> bulmer  than scroll up and re-read
[05:46] <theflyingfool> n2diy: my mind is worse then my typing, that is the man i tried after looking again
[05:46] <beginn3r> I already replied to  that question twice
[05:46] <funkdollar> after that follow the advice from the page but use the drivers you copied there
[05:46] <Andymeows> bulmer: thanks a lot!
[05:46] <bulmer> yeah right..am the one helping you
[05:46] <funkdollar> uberno0b,  yes
[05:46] <jaggz-> like, if it's depended on, but those don't exist.. then it's not needed -- that has to exist to keep the system clean.  I like.  :)  but I can't have that with my packages which are standalone
[05:46] <uberno0b> funkdollar: did that
[05:46] <jaggz-> now I have to remake vim too.. bleh
[05:46] <bulmer> Andymeows: np
[05:46] <n2diy> theflyingfool: so you couldn't find the keymap file locations with man loadkeys?
[05:46] <funkdollar> now copy  the .sys and .inf files in there
[05:47] <beginn3r> bulmer, yeah you're helping me,  but you're not reading my reply to  your question
[05:47] <theflyingfool> n2diy: the places it says to look show up empty
[05:47] <beginn3r> though  I did so twice
[05:47] <beginn3r> yet you're repeating  the same suggestion for  3 times
[05:47] <uberno0b> funkdollar what .sys and .inf files?
[05:47] <bulmer> beginn3r: can you repeat your reply please
[05:47] <dick-richardson> beginn3r: you could have answered 5 more times by now :P
[05:47] <funkdollar> uberno0b, the windows driver files
[05:47] <n2diy> theflyingfool: bummer, I'm getting ready to start a project that depends on loadkeys, this is bad news.
[05:47] <funkdollar> ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers
[05:48] <beginn3r> my reply  was, when I installed the edgy through bootstrap, /etc/shadow wasn't present
[05:48] <funkdollar> find these files first - do you have them ?
[05:48] <PirateHead> mister_roboto: I ran dpkg -P and the data files are still there.
[05:48] <theflyingfool> n2diy: maybe im just stupid, but i cant find it with loadkeys
[05:48] <[ithaycu] > hello
[05:48] <beginn3r> so I copied the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow from  hoary
[05:48] <beginn3r> which is on a different  box
[05:48] <beginn3r> forgotten that  some entries will be missing
[05:48] <uberno0b> funkdollar yes the .sys and .inf files are in there
[05:48] <funkdollar> i have a pair of those but i dont know if they will be identical - bcm4318 is a device from hell
[05:48] <bulmer> beginn3r: okay, you can add them in
[05:48] <beginn3r> from  the edgy /etc/passwd that has been replaced
[05:49] <n2diy> theflyingfool: I haven't tried yet myself, but if this is true, I'm back where I started from.
[05:49] <jaggz-> kitche, looking for a solution still :)
[05:49] <[ithaycu] > What's a good way to trouble shoot random reboots?
[05:49] <floating> Hi. How to install a python game ? There are .py files and some other files in the untarred directory for installation
[05:49] <jaggz-> I'd hate to not use checkinstall now that I used it the first time :)
[05:49] <theflyingfool> does anyone have any ideas on how i can figure out what key 0x74 is
[05:49] <beginn3r> bulmer, the problem is, I don't  know what acess to add to  them
[05:49] <beginn3r> as example for
[05:49] <[ithaycu] > floating: do you have python installed?
[05:49] <mister_roboto> PirateHead: sorry, guess you'll have to remove any extra droppings manually then :)   maybe -P only cleans up the . directories in $HOME?
[05:50] <beginn3r> Debian-exim:x:109:
[05:50] <arrenlex> floating: You can execute a .py file with the command "python <file.py>"
[05:50] <beginn3r> that was taken from /etc/group
[05:50] <funkdollar> jaggz-, checkinstall is cool especially if you have accidentally installed a huge package with make install and then there was no rule to "make uninstall"
[05:50] <EnsignRedshirt> [ithaycu] : First: run memtest when you boot (it's one of the options in the list of kernels).  After that, you'll have to ask someone else.
[05:50] <kitche> jaggz-: you still have the vim package?
[05:50] <emss> theflyingfool: ?
[05:50] <bulmer> beginn3r: thats why I suggest also to re-install..guessing what they are and what home directories..is too much work..may as well re-install
[05:50] <funkdollar> jaggz-, after this experience its great
[05:50] <Nuki> Hello, had catastrophic problem with ubuntu... installed from live CD (running that now) install failed at 94%, and ubuntu fully crashed before I could file a bug report.  Now... windows doesn't boot... all I have is the live CD... :-(  Tell me there's a quick fix for all this...?
[05:50] <emss> theflyingfool: use xev maybe?
[05:50] <[ithaycu] > EnsignRedshirt: I'm running a memtest off the boot cd now
[05:51] <floating> arrenlex: thx
[05:51] <jaggz-> wow.. searching for:  "REMOVE, NOT USED" checkinstall   turned up almost nothing.
[05:51] <beginn3r> bulmer, the problem with  reinstalling is, I don't have edgy CD and depending on installing them through  bootstrap
[05:51] <Niosop> Hello, I'm trying to get OSS or ALSA w/ OSS emulation working w/ a SiS7019 Audio controller.  Anyone here gotten this to work w/ Ubuntu, or can offer any guidance?
[05:51] <bulmer> beginn3r: also you can boot from a liveCD and check the same /etc/passwd and copy it over
[05:51] <PirateHead> mister_roboto: what command do you usually use to uninstall a package? perhaps I am missing something? example package is the game Nexuiz, which is in the default ubuntu repository, so it should be pretty well-oiled, yes? I used "sudo dpkg -r nexuiz" to remove it, and it removed nothing or close to nothing.
[05:51] <[ithaycu] > EnsignRedshirt: thx for the help.
[05:51] <emss> Nuki: just need to install/configure a boot manager
[05:51] <beginn3r> bulmer, again.. I don't have edgy  CD
[05:52] <emss> or reinstall the windows mbr
[05:52] <beginn3r> as stated above
[05:52] <dick-richardson> beginn3r: it's not feasible for you to download one?
[05:52] <nothlit> PirateHead, apt-get remove packagename
[05:52] <nothlit> PirateHead, with a sudo, of course
[05:52] <PirateHead> nothlit: does dpkg usually do a lousy job at removing packages?
[05:52] <bulmer> beginn3r: well I take it its not that much different than your dapper(?)
[05:52] <dick-richardson> PirateHead: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove pkgname
[05:52] <beginn3r> dick-richardson, my cd burner is not working the reason why  I have to install  through  bootstrap
[05:52] <EnsignRedshirt> [ithaycu] : Probably not much help, but you're welcome anyway :)
[05:52] <emss> PirateHead: you should use aptitude over the manual tools
[05:52] <dick-richardson> ahh
[05:52] <mister_roboto> PirateHead: i use apt-get remove
[05:52] <PirateHead> Okay, will try that. Thanks all.
[05:52] <beginn3r> bulmer, the problem is, it is different  the reason why some entries missing
[05:53] <dick-richardson> apt-get --purge autoremove does a more effective job
[05:53] <beginn3r> the one like
[05:53] <PirateHead> I couldn't find out how to use Synaptic at all.
[05:53] <beginn3r> Debian-exim
[05:53] <PirateHead> I could install with it, but not uninstall. Couldn't find the button.
[05:53] <theflyingfool> emss: doesnt seem to show me the key name/number/thing
[05:53] <nothlit> PirateHead, no
[05:53] <beginn3r> the only solution I can think  of is
[05:53] <PirateHead> Then again, I never am the biggest fan of GUIs for package management.
[05:53] <Gex> does anybody know how to shutdown a process thats already been run by the "at" command?
[05:53] <[ithaycu] > EnsignRedshirt: The funny thing is the machine doesn't reboot while I'm using it
[05:53] <beginn3r> someone running  edgy  to let me have a  copy of /etc//passwd
[05:53] <nothlit> PirateHead, but you can purge packages instead of removing them, to get rid of configs too
[05:53] <EnsignRedshirt> PirateHead: right-click on the package, you'll get options...
[05:53] <Nuki> emss: thanks... but... I am thinking both windows and ubuntu are broken.  and what is the windows mbr?
[05:53] <[ithaycu] > EnsignRedshirt: It reboots during the day or over night when Im not around
[05:54] <bulmer> beginn3r: there you go, you have a solution...just beg someone here... :)
[05:54] <jaggz-> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2356.html
[05:54] <bulmer> with edgy
[05:54] <jaggz-> this page seems to allude to just using defaults..
[05:54] <emss> Nuki: master boot record
[05:54] <jaggz-> nothing special to checkinstall
[05:54] <beginn3r> so, anyone here running  edgy can help me with this issue?
[05:54] <Niosop> Nuki:  If you have a windows cd you should be able to enter recovery console and run fixmbr which might at least get windows back up
[05:55] <emss> Nuki: unless you installed Ubuntu over windows or change the partitioning in some way that destroyed the windows partition you should be fine, just need to install a boot manager/mbr
[05:55] <dick-richardson> beginn3r: certainly...lemme clean mine up quick
[05:55] <[ithaycu] > beginn3r: a copy of /etc/passwd?
[05:55] <Nuki> emss: is that easy?  installing the mbr?
[05:55] <emss> Nuki: look at Niosop msg
[05:55] <balarka> hi dudes!
[05:55] <balarka> whats up?
[05:56] <EnsignRedshirt> !up
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <Niosop> Nuki: Although I hate recommending bringing a windows CD anywhere near your computer, it's probably the easiest way  :)
[05:56] <Nuki> Niosop: I can try that, thanks.
[05:56] <uberno0b> funkdollar I keep getting "Couldn't copy /BCM4318/bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144"
[05:56] <beginn3r> dick-richardson,  and /etc/shadow and /etc/group  aswell  ...   you can remove your user entry that  contain passwd though
[05:56] <dick-richardson> will do...though you'd have a blast with the hashes :P
[05:56] <mister_roboto> that's got to be the stupidest damn question i ever heard on this channel (from beginn3r)
[05:57] <Niosop> Anyone have any ideas on how to get OSS or ALSA w/ OSS emulation working w/ a SiS7019 Audio controller?
[05:57] <Popo1> I have a problem with Firefox, sometimes when I try to open a PHP web page it sends me to a download dialog box or simply the page don't load never. And in every forum based on PHP I just can't post... never send my posts, time pass.. and it get dead
[05:57] <beginn3r> mister_roboto, what question?
[05:57] <mister_roboto> asking for someone's password and shadow file
[05:57] <PirateHead> apt-get removed the files that dpkg did not - I will be using apt from now on. =D
[05:57] <Nuki> Niosop: heh... well trying to get away from windows... stumbling at first step
[05:57] <beginn3r> mister_roboto,  read my problem
[05:57] <beginn3r> I am not asking  for their password?
[05:57] <emss> Niosop: http://www.alsa-project.org/ ?
[05:57] <beginn3r> the reason why I asked them to  remove the user entry
[05:57] <emss> Niosop: if that's even the correct website
[05:58] <beginn3r> I just need a copy of a system entry
[05:58] <mister_roboto> beginn3r: just a copy of every other valid user on their system?
[05:58] <beginn3r> coz mine is missing
[05:58] <mister_roboto> lol
[05:58] <EnsignRedshirt> I need to test how Firefox works at an online store.  Could someone give me their credit card number to test?
[05:58] <Niosop> emss: thanks, I'll check it out again, maybe I missed something the first time over.
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> beginn3r: How is that "missing"...
[05:58] <Popo1> EnsignRedshirt: xD
[05:58] <[ithaycu] > beginn3r: just type it in
[05:58] <mister_roboto> beginn3r: here's a clue, boot the live cd and copy that one
[05:58] <beginn3r> mister_roboto, do you u nderstand what I want?
[05:58] <mister_roboto> beginn3r: anyone who would send you that is a fool
[05:58] <beginn3r> mister_roboto, read my answer above
[05:58] <emss> Niosop: there is a database of supported cards/intructions on the site
[05:59] <kyelewis> hey all
[05:59] <mister_roboto> beginn3r: i read your answer. it's STILL a damn retarded question
[05:59] <beginn3r> mister_roboto,  I asked them to remove  the line of users in the entry?
[05:59] <beginn3r> can't yuo  get it?
[05:59] <[ithaycu] > hello kyelewis:
[05:59] <mister_roboto> beginn3r: just copy the one from the live cd
[05:59] <kyelewis> yet more fall-out from my edgy upgrade *sigh* :P
[05:59] <PirateHead> When I plug my camera into my computer using a USB connector, it launches a GUI window to import my pictures, which is great. Unfortunately, the GUI window can only access the device if I configure it to gksudo before launching the GUI; and if I do that, then it imports the pictures as root and I have to chown them. How do automatically I make the device readable by my user before launching...
[05:59] <PirateHead> ...the GUI?
[05:59] <tjcoder> so.... i followed the directions on using a vfat filesystem as a user, but it still isn't working for me. any hints?
[05:59] <beginn3r> mister_roboto, are  you purposely flaming
[05:59] <beginn3r> the  reason  why I asked for  help is
[05:59] <mister_roboto> beginn3r: if they remove the user lines, there is nothing left in the file!
[05:59] <beginn3r> because I don't  have  edgy CD
[06:00] <Popo1> could someone help with firefox to open the damn PHP? and at least be able to post on a PHP based forum?
[06:00] <mister_roboto> beginn3r: are you honestly that clueless or trolling to hopefully pick up some accounts to try getting in someone's box?
[06:00] <beginn3r> have you  seen the /etc/shadow or undeerstand what I  am talking  about?
[06:00] <Nuki> i have this feeling I screwed my windows partition... I slid the slider down to min when I setup the linux partition size... I thought I was providing linux with the smallest partition possible (64 gig... not that small) but I think I was chopping my windows partition down to 64 gig... did that kill windows???
[06:00] <PirateHead> Popo1: wtf are you talking about?  :( PHP web mails don't work either.. the same
[06:01] <suterfugio> #vbox
[06:01] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...has anyone else had a problem setting up VINO on Ubuntu Edgy?  I've enabled it in gnome but I can't seem to connect even when using entering the IP on a LAN behind my firewall...it simply disconnects immediatly...what gives?
[06:02] <beginn3r> I just  need to know standard system entry
[06:02] <mister_roboto> dick-richardson:  if he's here, he has access to it online
[06:02] <dick-richardson> mister_roboto: actually, he did
[06:02] <PirateHead> Popo1: what version of firefox, what version of ubuntu?
[06:02] <beginn3r> to replace my /etc/shadow /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[06:02] <PirateHead> Popo1: I've never heard of that happening.
[06:02] <doy> quick question: is there an easy way to convert an ubuntu desktop installation into an ubuntu server installation?
[06:02] <beginn3r> you can remove the lines for users login
[06:02] <kyelewis> ok; well... gdm's nice graphical greeter won't start "The greeter application appears to be crashing." and gnome-session won't start under Xgl (it starts, then dies). Problems with connecting to the X server i believe
[06:02] <kyelewis> "X: client 3 rejected from local host"
[06:03] <Popo1> PirateHead: Edgy Eft 64-Bits, and Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:03] <Gevaudan82> doy: get the server kernels and then the xampp packages but other than that, they should be identical
[06:03] <dick-richardson> mister_roboto: anyway, not a big deal...like I said I'm just mounting the live cd and will send those files to him
[06:03] <kyelewis> i've tried removing the XAuth file being used, and still the issue occurs
[06:03] <[ithaycu] > kyelewis: check your log files /var/log/Xorg.0.log IIRC
[06:03] <beginn3r> dick-richardson, thanks
[06:03] <Gevaudan82> doy: and of course uninstall ubuntu-desktop...apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:03] <kyelewis> [ithaycu] : i just quoted from it, the local host error
[06:03] <PirateHead> Popo1: have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the firefox package?
[06:03] <o0splitpaw0o> OK, I screwed up. Talking through a terminal session. how to I reconfig xorg again *sigh* forgot the command
[06:03] <doy> Gevaudan82: thanks
[06:03] <beginn3r> it seems that someone people  don't  understand the  problem yet are trying to pull the trigger
[06:03] <lotacus> um
[06:03] <beginn3r> *some people
[06:03] <nothlit> Gevaudan82, i find vino a pain since its so cruddily documented
[06:03] <nothlit> !x11vnc | Gevaudan82
[06:03] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[06:03] <lotacus> is desktop search in ubuntu edgy broken?
[06:04] <PirateHead> Popo1: I'm assuming this is the default install of firefox screwing up, you didn't compile your own or something?
[06:04] <nothlit> lotacus, no
[06:04] <lotacus> hmm
[06:04] <lotacus> doesn't matter what I search for it never finds anything
[06:04] <Gevaudan82> nothlit: a while back i configured sessions using VNC but it was much slower than vino in my opinion...i don't mine the image compression vino uses...i'd prefer speed than frame rates
[06:04] <Popo1> PirateHead: I have the same problem since Dapper and Firefox 1.5, I think the problem is in another place.. maybe I have to install Apache? :s
[06:04] <[ithaycu] > Popo1: Apache wouldn't have anything todo with your client not working.
[06:04] <kyelewis> i've also had popping up in the logs a bit "GConf server is not in use, shutting down."
[06:05] <kyelewis> but nothing above it that would help troubleshoot that
[06:05] <[ithaycu] > Popo1: the problem could be with mimetypes, although I'm no expert with firefox
[06:05] <PirateHead> Popo1: no way. You should be able to access php files, because the MIME headers they send you are still HTML/text
[06:05] <kyelewis> i think i've tried everything i've seen in google and nothing's fixed it :P
[06:05] <o0splitpaw0o> I'm really hosed here. I'm using the xterm irc client and need help getting my xorg.conf fixed. I forget the entire command to run the setup for the video card
[06:05] <o0splitpaw0o> and it's not listed in my history
[06:06] <nothlit> o0splitpaw0o, you mean irssi? its sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:06] <o0splitpaw0o> nothlit: thanks!
[06:06] <theflyingfool> does anyone know any programs like EasyTag it keeps freezing on me, before i got a chance to try it
[06:06] <PirateHead> Popo1: I think there must be a screw loose in your install. It's reading the mimetypes wrong or something, though I too am no expert on firefox.
[06:06] <Popo1> PirateHead: Where could it be the problem? It's so frutrating to have to go to Windows just to post on a forum...
[06:06] <[ithaycu] > kyelewis: I've not seen any problems with GConf so I'm not sure
[06:06] <PirateHead> Popo1: is it only Firefox? Do PHP pages work using Dillo?
[06:06] <[ithaycu] > kyelewis: Have you tried starting x from a getty terminal?
[06:06] <kyelewis> any other ideas on the X auth problem?
[06:07] <o0splitpaw0o> nothlit: CRAP! screens scrolling what's the quick way to scroll up the chat :) LOL
[06:07] <kyelewis> it's not that X doesn't start, it's that gdm won't start the graphical greeter (it falls back to the alternate greeter)
[06:07] <Popo1> PirateHead: Hey! that's a point, I should try another web browser to see if it is a Firefox problem
[06:08] <o0splitpaw0o> nothlit: NM scrool up key lol
[06:08] <nothlit> o0splitpaw0o, shift+ pageup
[06:08] <kyelewis> and that gnome-session dies on an XGL display
[06:08] <jaggz-> how can I see what packages my system presently "wants" to uninstall?
[06:08] <jaggz-> like, if I run aptitude to install another package, if it'll find my vim "not used" again?
[06:08] <[ithaycu] > kyelewis: Have you checked your gdm.conf?
[06:08] <kyelewis> and apparently /etc/init.d/gdm stop freezes the system, nice
[06:08] <kyelewis> i'm not quite sure what to be checking
[06:08] <PirateHead> Popo1: good idea, tell how it goes.
[06:09] <[ithaycu] > kyelewis: that's strange. What distro are you running?
[06:09] <dick-richardson> beginn3r: http://abe.midco.net/vauxje/1337h4x0rs
[06:09] <kyelewis> edgy
[06:10] <[ithaycu] > kyelewis: I don't think I have an /etc/init.d  If I do I've been using /erc/rc.d/rc.S13Gdm
[06:10] <[ithaycu] > kyelewis: I can't check right now running a memtest on my box
[06:10] <[ithaycu] > well gotta hit the sack
[06:10] <[ithaycu] > cya
[06:11] <beginn3r> dick-richardson, thanks!
[06:12] <dick-richardson> beginn3r: no problem
[06:12] <o0splitpaw0o> nothlit: cross your fingers :)
[06:12] <kyelewis> anyone with any ideas? i'm fairly sure /etc/init.d/gdm stop shouldn't really freeze the system ;)
[06:12] <Niosop> kyelewis:  but gnome starts up fine?
[06:12] <kyelewis> i guess i'll see if i can still ssh in
[06:12] <nothlit> jaggz-, you can set apps in aptitude as manually installed
[06:13] <kyelewis> a normal gnome session starts fine- one with Xgl doesn't (gnome-session immediately dies and i'm dumped back to login)
[06:13] <Flannel> kyelewis: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support, thanks
[06:13] <kyelewis> (the login of course being the fallback gdm because the standard graphical greeter won't load
[06:13] <nothlit> jaggz-, and aptitude will always ask you before it does something if it does anything other than what has been explicitly stated
[06:13] <Niosop> kyelewis, Oh, I haven't had any luck w/ xgl, so can't help you there.
[06:13] <kyelewis> Flannel: fair enough; i didn't see the error with xgl until later, but i'll see there
[06:14] <dzer0> hello
[06:14] <jojofromthecircu> hello. Does anyone here have experience using ubuntu as a samba server for sharing files?
[06:14] <kyelewis> i don't see how the gdm issue is xgl based
[06:14] <dzer0> what package do I need to install to be able to run php scripts from the console? ex, php blah.php
[06:14] <nothlit> !anyone | jojofromthecircu
[06:14] <ubotu> jojofromthecircu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:14] <nothlit> !lamp | dzer0
[06:14] <ubotu> dzer0: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:14] <nothlit> dzer0, the name of the package is in there
[06:15] <jojofromthecircu> Thanks ubotu. I had samba configured on debian, and wanted to try ubuntu, but after setting up in the same way, xp computers won't connect
[06:15] <dzer0> nothlit I already have a lamp configuration and php is installed but for some reason I cant run php scripts from the console
[06:15] <Niosop> nothlit, probably something like php-cli
[06:15] <jojofromthecircu> I used smbpasswd -a joe
[06:15] <PirateHead> !lamp
[06:15] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:15] <PirateHead> ?
[06:15] <PirateHead> How do you get ubotu to talk about stuff?
[06:15] <jojofromthecircu> and added a user to the samba passwd file
[06:16] <Popo1> ubotu is a bot
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <Popo1> xD
[06:16] <PirateHead> Hmm, maybe he was just a bit late. =D
[06:16] <nothlit> PirateHead, you teach it things
[06:16] <jojofromthecircu> I tried both manually creating a new samba config, and copying my samba config from the old debian machine
[06:16] <Popo1> I think he is getting mad xD
[06:16] <dzer0> aha
[06:16] <lotacus> augh
[06:16] <EnsignRedshirt> dzer0: I haven't tried it, but I suspect that the package you want is php5
[06:16] <PirateHead> So, how do I tell it to say "h4x" when somebody types !piratehead?
[06:16] <lotacus> maybe I should just stay away from snort and mysql because apparently I dont know what i'm doing
[06:17] <dzer0> it's php5-cli ;) thanks a lot Niosop
[06:17] <jojofromthecircu> something seems to behave differently in ubuntu than in debian. I am wondering what the difference is. Perhaps there is a known difference between debian and ubuntu machines.
[06:17] <lotacus> i'll just leave my system wide open
[06:17] <Niosop> np. sorry addressed it to wrong person  :)
[06:17] <jaggz-> nothlit, yeah.. but I need to make it not work.. someone said aptitude has an unmarkauto option...
[06:18] <nothlit> jaggz-, yeah just type sudo aptitude
[06:18] <nothlit> and use the ncurses gui to mark it
[06:19] <blanky> BOO
[06:19] <blanky> :)
[06:19] <robnyc> !ati
[06:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:19] <blanky> why so quiet?
[06:19] <blanky> nevermind
[06:22] <lotacus> it's not. it's just that no one likes you
[06:23] <lotacus> heh. j/k
[06:23] <dick-richardson> anyone know how to keep ubuntu from auto connecting to open wifi access points on boot?
[06:23] <lotacus> are there any graphical front-ends be it application-wise or http based for snort?
[06:24] <Schminux> Hello! I am trying to get MS Sidewinder force feedback joystick working in Ubuntu 6.0.6 and not making any progess... can see the gameport in device manager, but nothing more.
[06:24] <lotacus> heh
[06:24] <robnyc> hello how do i find out if x1600 pro is supported by aiglx ?
[06:24] <robnyc> !xgl
[06:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:24] <lotacus> your key word is (ms)
[06:24] <lotacus> :P
[06:24] <lotacus> robnyc I dont know about aiglx but it works with frglx
[06:24] <lotacus> dunno if they are the same or not
[06:25] <robnyc> yea
[06:25] <lotacus> I was going to try aiglx but why change if it works fine with glx
[06:25] <robnyc> u need aiglx or xgl dont u think
[06:26] <lotacus> both will be fine
[06:26] <lotacus> either will be fine I mean
[06:26] <lotacus> just don't use ati's proprietary.
[06:26] <robnyc> well ig otta keep asking
[06:26] <robnyc> cuz AIGLX is better supopsely
[06:26] <robnyc> goodnite
[06:27] <lotacus> omg
[06:27] <lotacus> anyone using snort?
[06:28] <phiqtion> why does mounted FS appear in Desktop as icons, how can i diable these icons but keep the FS mounted?
[06:28] <lotacus> because you need some way to access it
[06:28] <phiqtion> i can access it in Places
[06:28] <phiqtion> i don't need the icon on the Desktop
[06:28] <dick-richardson> or at the command line, or in applications themselves :D
[06:29] <lotacus> thats like saying why is my hard drive listed as "filesystem" in the filesystem browser, cna't I just delete it
[06:29] <phiqtion> exactly
[06:29] <phiqtion> no need for Desktop
[06:29] <lotacus> then don't use your x-window manager
[06:29] <phiqtion> there should be a way to disable the icon
[06:29] <dick-richardson> if you mount it somewhere other than in /media it doesn't show on the desktop I believe
[06:29] <dick-richardson> try mounting it in /mnt
[06:29] <lotacus> OOOOH he mounted it to the desktop
[06:30] <lotacus> LOL
[06:30] <lotacus> yea mine is mounted in media I think
[06:30] <phiqtion> all default boxes have it in media
[06:30] <lotacus> I wanted the complete oposite. I want mine mounted on the desktop or the filebrowser area
[06:30] <lotacus> lol
[06:30] <cmt^^> I'm trying to install a LAMP solution on edgy-box.. can anyone tell me where I can find a sample configuration file for apache2? The basic setup only gave me a very trimmed down httpd.conf.
[06:32] <KNY> is there a way to tell if a given usb device is mapped to a /dev/* ?
[06:32] <lotacus> i need help with snort :S someone wanna pm me if they are using it
[06:33] <davidvasta> hello
[06:33] <phiqtion> google snort
[06:34] <PaulusVictor> Question: If I have drive compression enabled in Windows, will I still be able to read files from that drive with no difficulty in Ubuntu?
[06:34] <lotacus> phiqtion heh yea I did that.
[06:34] <lotacus> i'm on a guide right now
[06:34] <davidvasta> i don't think so?
[06:34] <davidvasta> is it NTFS?
[06:34] <PaulusVictor> Yes
[06:34] <lotacus> but i have a problem with a path the guide listed
[06:34] <KNY> PaulusVictor, no harm in trying. Just mount the NTFS drive as RO
[06:35] <davidvasta> ah
[06:35] <lotacus> mainly: mysql -u root -p < ~/snort-2.3.2/schemas/create_mysql snort
[06:35] <davidvasta> that might work
[06:35] <lotacus> it's saying the dir doesn't exist
[06:35] <lotacus> which it doesn't
[06:35] <PaulusVictor> KNY: Where can I change the setting to mount the drive as RO and not R/W?
[06:35] <lotacus> I dont know where the path would be for snort
[06:35] <KNY> /etc/fstab
[06:35] <PaulusVictor> /etc/fstab?
[06:35] <dick-richardson> fstab...or at the cmmand line
[06:35] <PaulusVictor> Ok, thanks.
[06:35] <PaulusVictor> <--- Just installed Ubuntu....might be here for a while.
[06:35] <KNY> good luck
[06:36] <KNY> report back on whether it works or not
[06:36] <davidvasta> ubuntu is pretty easy
[06:36] <lotacus> PaulusVictor: Congrats and I hope you have patience.
[06:36] <avalon_> I'm having a problem with drive encryption. I want to encrypt two hard drives that I have already chock full of data. All the information I find needs the data to be formatted. Is there a compression system that doesn't need to format my drives?
[06:36] <davidvasta> i was a SUSE and Redhat fan and have turned to an Ubuntu nut
[06:36] <lotacus> lol
[06:36] <davidvasta> it's pretty good stuff
[06:36] <lotacus> I installed the latest SUSE (four disks later) and deleted the partition after first startup
[06:37] <KNY> haha yeah
[06:37] <davidvasta> suse is just still not ready
[06:37] <KNY> I started with Fedora Core 3 because I got the DVD free in a magazine
[06:37] <davidvasta> ubuntu is way closer
[06:37] <EnsignRedshirt> What the...? What did I do?  I have an "untitled" USB disk icon on my desktop.  When I browse it, I find a directory called "TheVolumeSettingsFolder" and two files, "Desktop DB" and "Desktop BF".  While I do have two external USB drives plugged in, this icon isn't either of those.  What is this thing?
[06:37] <davidvasta> i started with redhat 4
[06:37] <avalon_> Ubuntu will eventually become mainstream I think. I started with slackware.
[06:37] <KNY> and flopped around the distros for a while until I found Ubuntu. 1 CD beats downloading and burning multiple CDs or DVD(s)
[06:38] <avalon_> For those who haven't had the pleasure.. slackware is about as fun as giving yourself a rectal exam.
[06:38] <davidvasta> i think they have the push and drive to get something out that is good
[06:38] <redwyrm> I'm trying to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper according to this method: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/05/steps-to-upgrading-your-ubuntu-machine-ubuntu-6061-610/
[06:38] <lotacus> EnsighRedshirt first of all, your name is too long. LOL. Those I would think are automatically created much like how windows will create files on your drives which are hidden like "index.dat and thumbs.db"
[06:38] <mneptok> wasn't "Flopped Around The Distros" Keith Richards' second solo album?
[06:38] <KNY> no clue
[06:39] <avalon_> TMI dick-richardson...
[06:39] <davidvasta> upgrades are pretty easy
[06:39] <PaulusVictor> Ok, now I'm looking in the fstab file, and I believe the drive in question is SDA5, how should I edit the line to make it RO?
[06:39] <EnsignRedshirt> lotacus: Does your IRC client have tab completion?  If so, long nicks are no problem.
[06:39] <KNY> PaulusVictor, make sure first
[06:39] <KNY> sudo fdisk -l
[06:39] <redwyrm> davidvasta, is that likely to work, then?
[06:39] <mneptok> EnsignRedshirt: you just described an HFS/HFS+ formatted volume
[06:39] <lotacus> EnsignRedshirt: heh yea, actually it does.
[06:39] <avalon_> I just wished there was an option to install ubuntu and encrypt drives during the installation
[06:40] <KNY> PaulusVictor, and note which /dev it is
[06:40] <davidvasta> what was i doing
[06:40] <davidvasta> sure
[06:40] <davidvasta> upgrade
[06:40] <lotacus> EnsignRedshirt: BUT i'm afriad of using those keys over there <--- cuz eveyrtime my finger taps over there, I have the tendancy to inadvertanly log out of my xwindow session. pain in the arse
[06:40] <EnsignRedshirt> mneptok: HFS...? Sorry for being mostly clueless, but that sounds like a Mac thing.
[06:40] <davidvasta> yes I did it to my box and I think that is the page I used. Should take a about 20 minutes
[06:40] <theflyingfool> how are azureus and azureus-gcj differnt
[06:40] <lotacus> HFS is an OLD filesystem
[06:41] <lotacus> oops
[06:41] <KNY> rTorrent FTW
[06:41] <mneptok> EnsignRedshirt: it does sound like a Mac thing, don't it ;)
[06:41] <markedwards> has anyone gotten grub working on an Intel Mac?
[06:41] <PaulusVictor> KNY: Actually, looking at it again the drive is mounted under /media/files and I don't see that in the fstab file at all.
[06:41] <dick-richardson> does rTorrent handle rss feeds?
[06:41] <KNY> dick-richardson, rTorrent doesn't even have a GUI
[06:41] <KNY> but it's fast :)
[06:41] <lotacus> OMFG
[06:41] <lotacus> that's it
[06:41] <lotacus> I told you
[06:42] <dick-richardson> so 'no' the rss thing?
[06:42] <QMario> !Give lotacus language
[06:42] <Hawk|afk> ACTION gives lotacus Elton John
[06:42] <avalon_> grr.... stupid drives... just encrypt....
[06:42] <KNY> PaulusVictor, cat /etc/mtab
[06:42] <mneptok> !enter | lotacus
[06:42] <ubotu> lotacus: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:42] <KNY> dick-richardson, no
[06:42] <EnsignRedshirt> mneptok: ..and the only Mac here is a laptop that is turned off and completely disconnected from this computer.
[06:42] <lotacus> why does every damn linux distro have to have a stupid keyboard shortcut like shift backspace.
[06:42] <lotacus> lol
[06:42] <mneptok> EnsignRedshirt: was this USB device ever used on a Mac?
[06:43] <KNY> so, anyone know how I can figure out if a given USB device is mapped to a /dev/*?
[06:43] <theflyingfool> how are azureus and azureus-gcj differnt, and which should i install
[06:43] <KNY> specifically, if it's mapped to /dev/video0
[06:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> back
[06:43] <KNY> theflyingfool, google it?
[06:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> formerly
[06:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> davidvasta
[06:43] <dick-richardson> KNY: cat /var/log/messages | grep disk
[06:43] <bugeyes> I would like to know how to do a clean install of edgy
[06:44] <bugeyes> can anyone help??
[06:44] <dick-richardson> that's how I find what's mapped where
[06:44] <KNY> dick-richardson, grep disk? why>