[12:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:43] <dennis__> thx people, i'll check it out
[12:46] <apt-get> Can someone help me
[12:46] <apt-get> I am locked out of add/remove
[12:47] <apt-get> /rejoin
[12:47] <apt-get> hello
[12:48] <apt-get> My apept installer is locked
[12:48] <apt-get> How do I unlock it?
[12:48] <pag> !fixadept
[12:48] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:48] <apt-get> thx
[12:48] <aula12> ola
[12:48] <aula12> XD
[12:49] <puesto06> ola
[12:55] <aula12> xeda
[12:55] <puesto06>                                                                                ey
[12:56] <puesto06> k pasa gonzalo
[12:56] <puesto06> el luis es un marikita xo no se lo digais a nadie
[12:56] <aula12> uy k wapo esto no?
[12:56] <aula12_> eres un mierda xeda
[12:56] <puesto06> kambiaos el nombre
[12:56] <puesto08> marica
[12:56] <pag> !es
[12:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:57] <puesto07> trillo y luis gays
[12:57] <puesto08> kitate mi apellido
[12:57] <puesto08> xeda
[12:57] <Trillo> yo soi trillo
[12:57] <puesto08> sera marica
[12:57] <puesto07> jajaja
[12:57] <Trillo> tu eres un impostor
[12:57] <puesto07> jaja
[12:58] <pawitp> !ubotu | Attention
[12:58] <ubotu> Attention: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:02] <pawitp> !foo
[01:02] <ubotu> foo is bar
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !bar
[01:03] <ubotu> foo is bar
[01:10] <henrik_> Hello
[01:11] <henrik_> Could someone point me to a place where I can get the kubuntu panel background? (I currently dont use kubuntu, so I dont have access to it)
[01:17] <xerosis> henrik_: try looking in: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8037521/kubuntu-default-settings_7.10-4.tar.gz
[01:18] <henrik_> xerosis: Thanks
[01:19] <xerosis> henrik_: yeah it's kubuntu-panel.png in there
[01:21] <henrik_> xerosis: jup ;)
[01:23] <tdn> What tool do I use to securely erase my hard disc?
[01:24] <henrik_> tdn: you could use wipe
[01:25] <tdn> henrik_, ok.
[01:28] <faidillinger> hello
[01:28] <faidillinger> Which one is the best : Koffice or OpenOffice ???
[01:28] <ardchoille> !best
[01:28] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:29] <Gast850> hey zusammen
[01:29] <Gast850> hab eine frage bezglich gpg:
[01:29] <faidillinger> then which one do you guys prefer and why ?
[01:30] <Gast850> hatte zurvor auf ner windowsbox ein schlsselpaar erzeugt. Wie kann ich nun den geheimen schlssel in gpg importieren
[01:30] <Gast850> ?
[01:30] <kadaz> where does rpm packages get installed?
[01:30] <ardchoille> kadaz: We don't use rpm packages in kubuntu
[01:30] <ardchoille> We use .deb packages
[01:30] <kadaz> can I extract a rpm package?
[01:31] <ardchoille> I believe there are apps that let you extract an rpm, but installing an rpm is dangerous.
[01:31] <Gast850> is this chanlle english speaking only ?
[01:31] <Gast850> *channel
[01:31] <kadaz> I just installed a cursor rpm
[01:31] <ardchoille> Gast850: Yes
[01:31] <faidillinger> how can i try kde4 with kubuntu ??
[01:31] <Gast850> oh ok
[01:31] <ardchoille> !dk
[01:31] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[01:31] <kadaz> how do I  fix this??
[01:32] <ardchoille> kadaz: How did you install it?
[01:32] <Gast850> so my question is: i once generated a pair of keys with pgp. Now i want to import the secret key to gpg, how can i do this?
[01:32] <kadaz> using root term   I rpm the packaged and it said it installed.
[01:32] <ardchoille> Gast850: The secret key should already be in your gpg key ring
[01:33] <ardchoille> kadaz: What command did you use?
[01:33] <kadaz> rpm
[01:33] <kadaz> I had to download it
[01:33] <Gast850> ardchoille: not after a fresh install of gpg on my linuxbox, since the secret + pub key(rings) were generated on a win box
[01:33] <ardchoille> kadaz: So you have alien installed?
[01:34] <kadaz> ?? yah
[01:34] <ardchoille> Gast850: I use kgpg to import new keys. You can try that.
[01:34] <kadaz> I thought rpm was like lha
[01:34] <Gast850> ardchoille, so there's also an option zu import the secret key?
[01:34] <ardchoille> kadaz: Using alien is dangerous. I would suggest to uninstall the rpm and stay away from them. Try to find a .deb package.
[01:35] <kadaz> whats the uninstall cmd
[01:35] <ardchoille> Gast850: I believe there is a cli command to import, but I don't know what it is.
[01:36] <ardchoille> kadaz: If you have rpm installed, I believe it's: rpm -e package
[01:37] <ardchoille> Then I feel you should uninstall rpm too as it can break your system.
[01:37] <kadaz> okk
[01:38] <ardchoille> !alien | kadaz
[01:38] <ubotu> kadaz: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:39] <kadaz> ok..
[01:39] <kadaz> apt-uninstall?
[01:39] <kadaz> sudo apt-get remove
[01:40] <kadaz> Removed rpm ...
[01:41] <kadaz> thank you !
[01:42] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[01:42] <kadaz> I have another questioon
[01:42] <kadaz> !webcam
[01:42] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:42] <kadaz> I  downloaded the file. and extracted it to /trunk  and now I dont know what to do.
[01:44] <kadaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech
[01:44] <kadaz> I went to this site and for the logitech 5000, it said get this file and then do this.
[01:45] <manuel_> CIAO A TUTTI
[01:45] <manuel_> QUALCINO SA' SPIEGARMI COME FUNZIONA STA COSA
[01:45] <manuel_> ??
[01:46] <kadaz> Iam going to try the first site
[01:46] <manuel_> WATH?
[01:46] <manuel_> QUALCHE ITALIANO??
[01:46] <yamal> !it | manuel_
[01:46] <ubotu> manuel_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:47] <manuel_> OK SORRY
[01:47] <frojnd> does kopete support to have more than one acc on msn protocol?
[01:47] <Gruelius> Ive got a funny problem, ive got a dual screen setup which is working perfectly except for when i have files on one desktop (say the right one) i cant drag them to the left, the mouse moves with the outlines of the files however the files dont move :(
[01:48] <kadaz> cp from desktop to desktop
[01:48] <kadaz> There might be a way to do it, but I wont be able to help :D
[01:49] <kadaz> sometimes if you take your second moniter over top of the other one, and give it shake, sometimes your files will fall onto the other desktop.
[01:53] <Gruelius> lol kadaz
[01:53] <Gruelius> so are there two desktop folders or something?
[01:54] <ninjahkv> hola y buenos dias a todos
[01:54] <Gruelius> i feel kde is above gnome
[01:54] <Gruelius> coming from gnome
[01:55] <Tm_T> frojnd: haven't found limit in accounts yet, I had 4 msn accounts online at one time
[01:55] <kadaz> I agree
[01:56] <kadaz> gruelius,  I dont have an answer. I have two moniters, but havnt tested out the second one yet.
[01:56] <Gruelius> lol
[01:56] <Gruelius> could you try dragging a file across? :p
[01:56] <kadaz> I could enable it and start another session
[01:57] <primordium_> Hello! I have a little question here! The Adept notifier/updater have appeared in my desktop has a green light, and when i closed it, it asked if i want it to run next time and i said no! now im worried if i did wrong, and now i dont have updates... can anyone help me?
[01:58] <kadaz> ill try this
[02:00] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[02:00] <Contrast> Can someone help me with getting streaming video playing in Konqueror?
[02:01] <Contrast> I already have kmplayer-base and kmplayer-konq-plugin installed (as well as mozilla-mplayer, but when I go to a page with embedded video, the area where the video should be is just black, with the buttons at the bottom. Hitting play does nothing.
[02:06] <primordium_> anyone know what im talking about ??
[02:07] <Contrast> primordium_: You're safe. :-)
[02:07] <kadaz> well that didnt work so well
[02:07] <primordium_> thanks! i was worried because the GREEN LIGHT didnt show up again
[02:07] <Contrast> You just won't be notified of new updates, but you can still run Adept Updater and get them.
[02:07] <primordium_> but i want to be notified
[02:09] <primordium_> how can i reverse this?
[02:09] <Contrast> primordium_: Try digging around in the settings for Adept. I'd say there's an option for it. Sorry I can't help more than that, but I haven't used Adept in months and no longer have it installed.
[02:09] <Jucato> primordium_: you can run notifier manually: adept_notifier
[02:09] <Contrast> Jucato: Isn't there also an option in its settings to start it when you log in?
[02:09] <Jucato> Contrast: well, that's the default behavior in the first place.
[02:10] <jakub_> Anybody familiar with Blender?
[02:11] <primordium_> i found the adept-notifierrc and it have inside the Autostart=false, i changed to true
[02:11] <sivaji> !splash screen
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <sivaji> ! info splash screen
[02:11] <ubotu> Package splash does not exist in feisty
[02:11] <primordium_> maybe this works i guess
[02:13] <kadaz> !webcam
[02:13] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:13] <crdlb> !usplash
[02:13] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[02:13] <Contrast> Jucato: I know, but that goes for other programs too, and they still have an option somewhere to set it back to autostart.
[02:13] <Contrast> primordium_: If all else fails, you can always just put a link to Adept Notifier in /home/yourname/.kde/Autostart
[02:13] <primordium_> yeah :) thanks
[02:13] <Contrast> sivaji: What are you trying to find out?
[02:13] <sivaji> i want more slpash screen
[02:13] <Contrast> http://www.kde-look.org
[02:14] <Jucato> primordium_, Contrast: actually, there should be an entry in /usr/share/autostart
[02:14] <kadaz> how can I disable acpi in kubuntu
[02:14] <Jucato> you can manually edit the .desktop file as a plain text file
[02:14] <kadaz> permently.
[02:14] <Contrast> Oh ok. My fault.
[02:16] <Contrast> !acpi
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <Contrast> primordium_: Sounds like you got it on your own. I'd imagine that's the proper way to get it back, barring a checkbox for it somewhere in Adept's settings.
[02:19] <ardchoille> Anyone know how I can find out a command that does the same thing as some of the stuff in kcontrol? kcontrol > Security & Privacy > Privacy ; Select All > Clean Up > Apply   <-- I'd like to know how to do that from cli.
[02:20] <primordium_> Contrast: thanks for the help, im seeking trought the files now, but i guess its done... :D
[02:21] <Contrast> Does anyone know the file format that plugins for Konqueror have to be in?
[02:21] <Jucato> Contrast: same format for any browser plugin. nsplugins
[02:24] <Contrast> Thanks Jucato. Actually, pointless question. I just saw that Konqueror's already recognizing the mozilla-mplayer plugin. It's just that it's still trying to use kmplayer to play embedded video instead, and when I tried apt-get removing kmplayer-base and kmplayer-konq-plugin, Konqueror just crashed when I went to a site with streaming video.
[02:25] <Jucato> Contrast: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> specific file type -> Embedding tab
[02:27] <steveire> Hey. Has anyone here ever copied an ubuntu installation from one harddrive to another?
[02:28] <steveire> I want to know the RightWay to do it.
[02:31] <xerosis> steveire: using dd is probably your best bet
[02:31] <Contrast> Jucato: Thanks a lot, looks like that got it. Now it's just stuttering like crazy though. Brb
[02:31] <klakette> hi :)
[02:31] <steveire> xerosis: Have you done it?
[02:31] <xerosis> steveire: 'fraid not
[02:31] <xerosis> dd just copies a disk completely though, so it's the best way to do it
[02:31] <xerosis> steveire: plenty of guides on google
[02:31] <steveire> xerosis: From a liveCD?
[02:32] <xerosis> steveire: any liveCD will have it
[02:32] <steveire> I mean, do I need to be not using the drive that I'm copying while doing it?
[02:33] <xerosis> steveire: if nothing else, it'll slow it down
[02:35] <kadaz> !webcam
[02:35] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:37] <Whitey> hi all, I've been having trouble with my ati video card since upgrading my kernel recently
[02:37] <Whitey> is anyone available to help? :)
[02:37] <Whitey> !ati
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:38] <crdlb> Whitey, what ati card?
[02:38] <Whitey> radeon... 9800 I think
[02:38] <Whitey> it's definitly a radeon though
[02:38] <crdlb> Whitey, using the proprietary driver?
[02:38] <Whitey> I'm not sure what that is :P
[02:38] <crdlb> Whitey, run: fglrxinfo
[02:38] <Whitey> it tells me I'm using the generic one
[02:38] <Whitey> erm..
[02:38] <Contrast> Jucato: Figured it out. Just had to tweak the cache size.
[02:39] <Whitey> Mesa
[02:39] <Contrast> Jucato: Greatly appreciated.
[02:39] <crdlb> Whitey, but it is installed then
[02:39] <Jucato> um.. ok.. :)
[02:39] <crdlb> Whitey, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:39] <crdlb> !pastebin
[02:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:39] <Whitey> ty :)
[02:40] <halaf>
[02:40] <Whitey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25396/ <<< my Xorg.0.log
[02:41] <Whitey> I only noticed the problem after reseting the other night
[02:41] <Whitey> and I remember updaing my kernel stuff the other day :P
[02:41] <Whitey> when scouring google for answers, I saw the problem can be caused upon upgrade, if the drivers are incompatible
[02:41] <Whitey> but I can't seem to do anything to make them work :P
[02:42] <crdlb> Whitey, sudo modprobe fglrx
[02:42] <crdlb> what happens if you try that?
[02:42] <Whitey> eep, scary :P
[02:42] <Whitey> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[02:43] <Whitey> oh... FGL stands for Fire GL :D
[02:43] <Whitey> I never knew that ^_^
[02:43] <crdlb> Whitey, sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:43] <Whitey> I removed and installed them earlier, but ok :P
[02:43] <kaizad> what is cyber sex ?
[02:44] <Whitey> like phone sex, but with text :)
[02:44] <Whitey> all done crdlb
[02:44] <polopolo> !off-topic | :P:P:P
[02:44] <kaizad> oh .... so how do u do i t?
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <polopolo> oh
[02:44] <Whitey> lol
[02:45] <steveire> kaizad: It involves a harddrive and virus protection
[02:45] <crdlb> polopolo, looking for !offtopic ?
[02:45] <kaizad> i mean do v need 2 take ny pills for it ?
[02:45] <crdlb> Whitey, well try this: sudo lrm-manager
[02:45] <polopolo> !offtopic
[02:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:45] <kaizad> ok
[02:45] <kaizad> my yahoo id is not working ! :(
[02:46] <crdlb> Whitey, then, repeat: sudo modprobe fglrx
[02:46] <Whitey> is something meant to open crdlb?
[02:46] <Whitey> ok
[02:46] <kaizad> ie .. in gaim !
[02:46] <Whitey> ok, done - no output :P
[02:46] <kaizad> it says ur screen name is incorrect
[02:46] <crdlb> Whitey, now restart X without rebooting
[02:46] <Whitey> crdlb: what's the best way to do that? :)
[02:46] <kaizad> but i hav given a id & pw correct !
[02:46] <Whitey> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?
[02:46] <kaizad> hey HELP !
[02:46] <crdlb> Whitey, log out and ctrl+alt+bksp from the login screen
[02:46] <Whitey> btw, my card is an ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]
[02:46] <Whitey> :P
[02:47] <Whitey> ok, brb ^_^
[02:47] <polopolo> !ping | polopolo
[02:47] <polopolo> !ping
[02:47] <ubotu> pong
[02:48] <alumno> eeeeeeeeeeee
[02:49] <Whitey> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[02:49] <Whitey> ^_^
[02:49] <crdlb> Whitey, here's the thing, it probably won't work on reboot
[02:49] <Whitey> thank you crdlb :D
[02:49] <Whitey> ah
[02:49] <Whitey> ok
[02:49] <Whitey> I suppose I have to edit a configuration file? :P
[02:50] <crdlb> but running: sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx
[02:50] <crdlb> will make it work
[02:50] <Whitey> hmm
[02:50] <crdlb> you could probably put that in an init script or something
[02:50] <Whitey> is there a way to make it work automagically? :P
[02:50] <kadaz> !webcam
[02:50] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:50] <Whitey> just out of curiosity, why does it do this? :P
[02:50] <Whitey> and how did I/you fix it? :P
[02:50] <crdlb> absolutely no idea
[02:50] <Whitey> :P
[02:50] <crdlb> well lrm-manager copies the restricted module to where modprobe can load it
[02:51] <Whitey> ah
[02:51] <Whitey> hmm
[02:51] <crdlb> but it's supposed to happen on boot
[02:51] <Whitey> is this because I'm using the latest restricted modules? =/
[02:52] <Whitey> if so, is it possible for me to revert? :P
[02:52] <Whitey> I mean, adapt told me to update, so I'd assume they're not bleeding edge...
[02:52] <crdlb> no, it just broke :)
[02:53] <Whitey> oh :P
[02:53] <Whitey> well
[02:53] <Whitey> how do I create an init script? :P
[02:53] <Whitey> I've done a small amount of bash scripting in the past, but I don't know how to run one on init
[02:53] <Whitey> I suppose I'd want it to run before X starts too...
[02:54] <crdlb> haven't needed to on *buntu so I don't know
[02:54] <Whitey> :P
[02:54] <crdlb> yeah that would be good
[02:54] <Whitey> tha'ts ok, I'm sure I can find out somewhere ^_^
[02:54] <Whitey> thanks anyway crdlb :)
[02:54] <crdlb> np :)
[02:56] <Whitey> for the curious, it's quite simple to do ^_^
[02:56] <Whitey> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[02:57] <rjune__> What's the "official" way to set IP address information on ubuntu-server? and is there a gui frontend?
[02:57] <kadaz> hey guys, do you know where to put the linux uvc drivers?
[02:59] <kadaz> what do you mean by set?
[02:59] <kadaz> like manually doing it?
[02:59] <WebAppMonkey> For a desktop install of Kubuntu Feisty should I just download and install kubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso? Or should I get alternate too?
[03:00] <arash> OK, guys, one thing is really pissing me of with this KDE, once you by mistake drag or drop a menu a tiny bit, it all get ruined, how can i restore a windows normal settings to the default layout?
[03:00] <WebAppMonkey> I plan on just installing over my OpenSuSe root and user partitions and keeping my disk structure otherwise intact
[03:01] <rjune__> kadaz: I mean I have ubuntu server installed. I want to not use dhcp for the address.
[03:01] <rjune__> so I need to assign it a static IP.
[03:02] <kadaz> ok
[03:02] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: To temporarily assign a static IP you can use `sudo ifconfig <adapter> <ip>`. You are looking to assign an IP to a linux box, yes?
[03:02] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: I want to do it permanantly.
[03:02] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: As far as setting it to do that at boot is distro-specific... Someone else will have to help you until I move over to Kubuntu :)
[03:03] <|neonlinux|> rjune__: u have a screen on that server?
[03:03] <rjune__> |neonlinux|: of course.
[03:03] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: At the very least there should be something in /etc/rc.d
[03:03] <WebAppMonkey> Depending on what boot structure Kubuntu uses? SysV?
[03:03] <|neonlinux|> ok.. goto the k menu.. then to systemsettings
[03:03] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: yeah /etc/rc.d/networking. I'm wanting to know the specific ubuntu tools though.
[03:04] <rjune__> |neonlinux|: ubuntu-server. text console, not X
[03:04] <|neonlinux|> ahh... hmmm.. ill see what i can find
[03:08] <BlueDevil> i'm running feisty on a core2duo/asus p5b-deluxe and it won't see the whole 4GB of ram, it only sees 2GB; what can i do to fix it?
[03:08] <WebAppMonkey> A question: Will the desktop install allow me to do a detailed selection of what partitions I want to use for what mountpoints? Ie: I just want to replace my / and /usr.
[03:08] <rjune__> though since we are talking about it. will Network Manager write the data to /etc/network/interfaces? or will it create it's own config?
[03:08] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: Network Manager is a userspace tool, I would *assume* it's changes are in its own configuration
[03:08] <dfan> hello.
[03:08] <|neonlinux|> rjune__: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html#more-8
[03:08] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: then ubuntu uses it's default format. because using network manager to set the ip address writes it to where I would expect.
[03:09] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: So NetworkManager changes the /etc/rc.d/networking config file?
[03:09] <dfan> I've been getting some kernel panics with feisty and I think I might get an idea how to reproduce it.
[03:09] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: no. it changes /etc/network/interfaces
[03:10] <rjune__> I wouldn't expect anything to change /etc/rc.d/networking unless you were using slack.
[03:13] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: I come from two years of being a slacker :) All this fancy user-space stuff is new to me.
[03:14] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: I just compiled my own Xorg server + glibc + GCC one-too-many-times
[03:19] <rjune_> oy, sorry bout that.
[03:19] <rjune_> WebAppMonkey: You're coming from OpenSuSE then?
[03:20] <WebAppMonkey> rjune_: I've used slack forever, I just recently switched to OpenSuSe, but Novell's political moves have made me look for another modern OS
[03:20] <WebAppMonkey> Er, distro at least
[03:24] <rjune_> You'll quickly find that slack does things differently from most other distros.
[03:25] <scullder> hi !
[03:32] <WebAppMonkey> rjune_: And it is unfortunate that everything else does things differently than slack... It is a wonderfully elegant system. Unfortuately, I desire modern features... like beryl.
[03:33] <scales> somebody help i installed nvidia drivers but beryl wouldnt start why????
[03:33] <crdlb> scales, glxinfo|grep OpenGL\ version
[03:37] <scales> crdlb: where i can view it?
[03:37] <crdlb> scales, in a terminal
[03:37] <scales> crdlb: whatis the command
[03:37] <crdlb> scales, I just told you
[03:37] <WebAppMonkey> scales: alt+f2, type konsole, run that. Then type the command crdlb wrote.
[03:37] <crdlb> oh that
[03:37] <scales> it says
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <crdlb> ugh
[03:37] <JuJuBee> What should I be using to authenticate in a client server environment?  I tried NIS (broken) and LDAP(cant get to work).
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <Jucato> !paste | scales
[03:37] <ubotu> scales: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <WebAppMonkey> *sighs*
[03:37] <scales> crdlb: what i can do?
[03:37] <crdlb> scales, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <crdlb> use the pastebin link above
[03:38] <kadaz> crdlb did you set your driver proprietary?
[03:38] <WebAppMonkey> Before I waste a CD, will the desktop install allow me to setup the partitions it uses? (I just want to overwrite / and /usr, but not /home, and otherwise keep my partition table setup)
[03:38] <kadaz> I meant scales
[03:39] <scales> kadaz: with envy on auto
[03:39] <kadaz> after you updated your nvidia drivers, you need to set it from standard to proprietary
[03:39] <Jucato> WebAppMonkey: definitely yes
[03:39] <crdlb> yuck
[03:39] <scales> i just cant understand why it so tuff to install some drivers
[03:39] <Jucato> WebAppMonkey: make sure you uncheck the box that indicates whether the partition will be formatted or not
[03:39] <crdlb> scales, because you used envy
[03:40] <kadaz> what is envy?
[03:40] <WebAppMonkey> Jucato: Thank you, I'll be back in less than an hour then, when I'm back from an install :)
[03:40] <crdlb> !envy
[03:40] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[03:40] <Jucato> WebAppMonkey: good luck
[03:40] <WebAppMonkey> If that isn't too optimistic :)
[03:40] <polopolo> can someone say gow I can remove the folder .gVerse
[03:41] <WebAppMonkey> Jucato: It can't be any worse than installing slack..
[03:41] <WebAppMonkey> Or LFS
[03:44] <yatin> hi i am having problems with suspend and hibernate
[03:44] <yatin> i have a dell dimension 8200
[03:48] <polopolo> can someone say how I can remove the folder .gVerse
[03:48] <scales> give me a tip how to install them
[03:48] <ardchoille> polopolo: rm -r .gVerse
[03:48] <yatin> when i click suspend, the comp suspends just fine, however when i press the power button to come out of uspend, i just get a blank screen, no cursor or anything, and the usb keyboard is completely nonresponsive
[03:48] <scales>  crdlb can you give me some help?
[03:48] <crdlb> scales, are you going to pastebin your log?
[03:48] <crdlb> !pastebin
[03:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:48] <scales> crdlb: but without the pastebin ......just some hints
[03:48] <polopolo> ardchoille thank you
[03:48] <crdlb> scales, um
[03:48] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:48] <crdlb> make sure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf says Driver "nvidia"
[03:48] <crdlb> not "nv" or "vesa"
[03:48] <scales> crdlb: how can i see them?
[03:49] <scales> crdlb: explain me like to a lame :)))
[03:49] <crdlb> scales, run: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[03:50] <crdlb> that /should/ handle everything assuming envy didn't screw up
[03:50] <scales> crdlb: command not found
[03:51] <crdlb> scales, nvidia-xconfig ?
[03:51] <scales> yep
[03:51] <crdlb> ugh
[03:51] <crdlb> shouldn't have used envy like we repeatedly told you
[03:52] <scales> what to do reinstal linux?
[03:52] <crdlb> you should install /real/ feisty
[03:52] <crdlb> not that ultimate edition thing
[03:54] <scales> crdlb: do you know the ultimate edition distribution
[03:54] <scales> you should download it
[03:54] <crdlb> no I shouldn't
[03:55] <crdlb> and I really recommend you don't either
[03:55] <ardchoille> I fail to understand the need for a script to install nvidia drivers. All I had to do was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia glx', 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable', 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and restart x and it was installed.
[03:56] <benjamin_hr> it isnt that easy for all of us ardchoille ;)
[03:56] <scales> www.youtube.com/?v=_CPEfFdfEdg take a look at it
[03:56] <benjamin_hr> or better wasnt, cause one installed, if the kernel doesnt change, everythings fine of course :)
[03:56] <benjamin_hr> s/one/once/
[03:56] <crdlb> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[03:56] <crdlb> even better :P
[03:57] <alumno> Hola
[03:57] <ardchoille> benjamin_hr: My kernel changed and the nvidia drivers are still running
[03:57] <benjamin_hr> that never worked for me, they messed up my restricted modules or something else, cause i had to reinstall everything everytime i changed the kernel
[03:58] <alumno> q guey
[03:58] <benjamin_hr> but, i dont change kernels like underwear, so its not that bad ;)
[03:58] <ardchoille> did you install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site or from source or something?
[03:58] <WebAppMonkey> Nice installer
[03:59] <alumno> hello
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> first with aptitude, but that didnt worked, than by source, that didnt work either (but here it was my lazyness and inexperience) and then via envy, which worked
[03:59] <alumno> shut up
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> ehm
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> youre must be a girl
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> -re
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> ;)
[04:00] <azzco> I'm trying to setup a LAN sharing a few folders with my brother (windows system) I've tried to follow the wiki but he doesn't get access to any files, help?
[04:00] <benjamin_hr> my girlfriend always reacts that way anytime i mentiion anything about computers
[04:00] <benjamin_hr> especially with friendly nerds nearby ;)
[04:00] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: Stop making things up, linux users don't have girlfriends.
[04:00] <benjamin_hr> hrhr
[04:00] <azzco> WebAppMonkey: LOL
[04:01] <benjamin_hr> i think there was something about that in a fortune cookie file, maybe ill find it
[04:01] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: Have you ever seen pictures of aKademy?
[04:01] <scales> crdlb: both of command are working now what to do next?
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> ehm
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> no
[04:02] <crdlb> scales, what?
[04:02] <scales> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> ah
[04:02] <alumno> eh
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> i didnt know what that was, but a google (image) search revealed it :D
[04:02] <crdlb> scales, ugh
[04:02] <crdlb> scales, you can't do that on top of envy
[04:03] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: If you don't I'd suggest you read the dot sometime. http://dot.kde.org
[04:04] <scales> crdlb: what to do next ....can i start the drivers today or no
[04:04] <crdlb> scales, if you reinstall the drivers with envy, it /might/ work
[04:04] <benjamin_hr> oh kk
[04:04] <WebAppMonkey> It is filled with all sorts of exciting stuff, like videos of plasma!
[04:05] <benjamin_hr> i read slashdot regularly so dont expect to much excitment from me, but ill look into it :)
[04:05] <azzco> scales: Have you restarted X?
[04:06] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: Think of it as a nerdier slashdot
[04:08] <sivaji__> azzco alt+ctrl+backspace
[04:08] <MurDoGG> mh ich mchte ein paket deinstallieren ohne die abhngigen pakete zu deinstallieren, wie geht das mit apt-get
[04:08] <benjamin_hr> hehe kk
[04:08] <pag> !de | MurDoGG
[04:08] <ubotu> MurDoGG: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:08] <WebAppMonkey> Time to reboot to my new Kubuntu install
[04:09] <MurDoGG> oh sorry i want to remove a package but don't interest in dependies, how can i solve this with apt-get
[04:10] <sivaji2009> MurDoGG use aptitude
[04:10] <alumno> I Shet in you
[04:11] <llutz> MurDoGG: if you remove a package other depend on, you'll end in broken packages
[04:11] <alumno__> hola
[04:11] <alumno> hola q ac
[04:11] <alumno__> ehhhh aburrirme
[04:11] <alumno__> hola
[04:11] <alumno> yo tambien
[04:12] <alumno__> jajajajaja
[04:12] <alumno__> hdduuuuhrudjujr
[04:12] <sivaji2009> alumno__ are u mad ?
[04:13] <ardchoille> !coc | alumno__
[04:13] <ubotu> alumno__: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:13] <WebAppMonkey> Wow, Adept is the package manager Yast *dreams* of being
[04:15] <alumno__> yr755t
[04:16] <alumno__> qihsuwnicoel
[04:20] <sivaji2009> !openmoko
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openmoko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Silent_G> hello, iv downloaded kubuntu DVD and somehow its crashing with a bunch of colours , my video chipset is Via Chrome9 K8m890 and its not supported by most distros but its supported by Vesa, is their anyway or option i can install kubuntu using the vesa driver? or maybe some driver for my chipset?
[04:23] <Boje> moinsen :)
[04:23] <KomiaPoika> whats the package name to install cups
[04:23] <JuJuBee> Am I the only one trying to use ubuntu in a client server env?  What do other people use to handle authentication?
[04:26] <wolferine> JuJuBee, LDAP?
[04:26] <JuJuBee> I am pulling my hair out trying to get it to work.
[04:27] <wolferine> its like everything in life, it was easy, it just wouldnt be worth it :)
[04:28] <hogan> Anyone know why my Wireless card (eth1) will enable for about 2 seconds then disable again?
[04:29] <JuJuBee> wolferine : you using feisty?
[04:30] <JuJuBee> Got any pointers to getting it to work?
[04:30] <ric19new> hi all newbie here
[04:38] <JuJuBee> Where can I find pam/ldap logs?
[04:38] <azzco> How do I add more users in samba, and how do I give them proper access to shared files?
[04:39] <Minataku> Yeah, my Ultra 1 has a bad CG6 >.<
[04:39] <Minataku> Reseating it failed to have any effect
[04:39] <Minataku> Heya, DaSkreech
[04:39] <DaSkreech> H i Minataku
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> good morning!
[04:40] <Minataku> My Ultra 1 has a bad CG6 ;o;
[04:40] <DaSkreech> good morning :)
[04:44] <Minataku> Oh well
[04:44] <Minataku> No biggie
[04:44] <Corey8067> Is it possible to upgrade to version 7.04 using the CD without having to reinstall everything?
[04:44] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[04:44] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: depends on which Cd you mean
[04:44] <Corey8067> DaSkreech: the CD is 7.04, i just got it today
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: Live CD or alternate?
[04:44] <ardchoille> Corey8067: From Ship It?
[04:44] <Corey8067> Yeah from ship it
[04:44] <ardchoille> It's a live cd
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: Did you get two of them? :-)
[04:44] <Corey8067> 3 actually
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: What are the labels on them?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Oh wait never mind I just got you :(
[04:44] <ardchoille> Corey8067: If you just got that livecd today, it's probably 7.04
[04:44] <Corey8067> Yeah it is
[04:45] <ardchoille> Corey8067: I think you can just pop that cd in and the system will ask if you want to upgrade.
[04:46] <Corey8067> Ok :)
[04:48] <Corey8067> i am impressed with the delievery time as well
[04:48] <ardchoille> How long did it take?
[04:49] <Corey8067> like 2 weeks max
[04:49] <ardchoille> About the same here.
[04:49] <Corey8067> i am gussing that it wasn't stopped at Customs
[04:50] <DexterF> hi
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> should kubuntu autodetect usb pendrive or do I have to mount & if so what is the syntax?
[04:51] <DexterF> is there a gtk2 theme to match kdes "polyester"? the gtk-qt wrapper isn't working
[04:51] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: should autodetect and present a win-xp-style pop up what to do with it
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: that is not happening, so how do I mount it?
[04:55] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: well, look thru /dev/disk/by-id for something that appears to be that stick, then mount as usual (man mount)
[04:56] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: no it wont
[05:00] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: use pmount as user, not mount
[05:00] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Ok, I must be wrong then
[05:00] <rowenthedark> Is there a way to install software as the specific user as opposed to globally?
[05:00] <fdoving> rowenthedark: not really, no.
[05:00] <fdoving> rowenthedark: nothing supported, anyway.
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: You can't upgrade with the Live CD. You need the alternate CD
[05:00] <rowenthedark> :(
[05:00] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: using a using hub would that mess things up?
[05:00] <payam> Anygirls here?
[05:00] <payam> Anygirl wana chatt here?
[05:00] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: makes no difference, i think
[05:00] <rowenthedark> Oh well. Is there a way to autoload beryl at KDE startup?
[05:00] <payam> I give you cam
[05:00] <rowenthedark> payam: I think you are in the wrong channel.
[05:00] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: DexterF http://pastebin.ca/564297
[05:01] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: seems your pendrive isn't recognized at all
[05:02] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: open a console and type "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages", after that plug/unplug the stick and watch the logfiles output.
[05:04] <Jucato> sudo not needed (afaik)
[05:04] <payam> #girls
[05:04] <llutz> Jucato: you're right, sry
[05:05] <Jucato> llutz: it's ok
[05:05] <DaSkreech> payam: please stay on topic
[05:05] <Jucato> !offtopic | payam
[05:05] <ubotu> payam: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:05] <DaSkreech> !coc | payam
[05:05] <ubotu> payam: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:05] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: http://pastebin.ca/564301  these are the additional entries
[05:05] <payam> Im ban there
[05:05] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: plug the stick in and do "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:06] <fdoving> llutz: /var/log/messages isn't used for those in ubuntu, /var/log/syslog is used for everything.
[05:06] <fdoving> .. or more than messages, anyway, not everything.
[05:06] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: all I get with sudo fdisk -l are my hard disk partitions
[05:06] <ubuntu> how to restore linux
[05:06] <ubuntu> ???
[05:07] <fdoving> ubuntu, did you reinstall windows?
[05:07] <payam> ubuntu?
[05:07] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: does "lsusb" list the stick?
[05:07] <ubuntu> i will loose all my data
[05:07] <payam> ubuntu.yes
[05:07] <ubuntu> i'm using the live cd now
[05:07] <payam> Tuff situation
[05:07] <payam> Boot CD
[05:08] <payam> :S
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: How did you lose linux?
[05:08] <ubuntu> it crashed because the incorect configuration of display drivers
[05:08] <llutz> fdoving: messages is fine for this
[05:08] <rowenthedark> Hello again: Is there a way to autoload beryl when KDE starts? If so how?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ah. You need your old xorg.conf
[05:08] <fdoving> llutz: not here.
[05:08] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[05:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:09] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: where i can find it?
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: no exactly but it does see my hub: http://pastebin.ca/564307  may be I should remove the hub & plug it in directly?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you mount your hard drive?
[05:09] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: try it, maybe it's the hub causing the trouble (kick it!)
[05:09] <medkarim> Hi everybody !
[05:09] <payam> medkarim, asalamo aleikom Karim
[05:10] <medkarim> ;)
[05:10] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: how to find out?
[05:10] <azzco> ubuntu you can allways do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" if you're able to get to a console on your normal installation
[05:10] <medkarim> Tu es d'ou ?
[05:10] <medkarim> payam
[05:11] <payam> medkarim, do you want something :)
[05:11] <mick> kaffeine plays my dvd's but stops & starts. OK in Ubuntu but not Kubuntu
[05:11] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: that's done the trick :-) bit pants I can't use my usb hub :-(
[05:11] <medkarim> J'ai un probleme avec ma carte son , je suis sous Kubuntu feisty
[05:11] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: it's a passive hub, without own power-supply?
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: run fdisk -l to list the drives, then do mount /somthing /somewhere
[05:12] <ubuntu> can i restore my old xconf
[05:12] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: there's a hub?
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: maybe, or recreate it
[05:12] <ubuntu> how???
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> look up at azzco
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: no it has it's own power supply
[05:13] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: the kernel in 7.04 has an experimental usb option for reasons beyond me which f!cks up some usb hubs
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> !fr | medkarim
[05:13] <ubotu> medkarim: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:13] <DexterF> try   dmesg | grep bad  and see if there's something about cables
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: : no it has it's own power supply
[05:13] <medkarim> No french help here ?
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: I am using 6.06
[05:13] <ubuntu> !ro | ubuntu
[05:13] <DexterF> oh.
[05:13] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: strange, never had trouble with those...
[05:14] <medkarim> ah , ok
[05:14] <DexterF> umm. well, try without the hub nevertheless, if possible
[05:14] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: anyway, go buy a new one :)
[05:14] <hasan> hi guys
[05:14] <hasan> i need help
[05:14] <hasan> :)
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> !question
[05:14] <hasan> as everybody here
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: llutz oh well at least I have got access to it thanks
[05:14] <azzco> Just tell the question
[05:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:14] <medkarim> Merci
[05:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: you can't get to a prompt on your computer at all?
[05:14] <hasan> i try to connect my brand new mpx220 with kubuntu
[05:14] <hasan> but whihout success
[05:15] <hasan> ive install raki and synce
[05:15] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: does it work now?
[05:15] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: windows reckonises it (ducks for incoming... :-) )
[05:15] <hasan> but it doesnot recognize my mobilephone
[05:15] <hasan> any idea
[05:15] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: then use windows
[05:15] <hasan> anyone who uses smartphone with kubuntu?
[05:15] <hasan> any idea is welcome
[05:15] <payam> I wana learn a little about Glade, anyone who knows a good website? I have googled it! I have found a good side , do please show me
[05:16] <bonbonthejon> hasan: i never got my ipaq to work with linux, but my palms work fine
[05:16] <hasan> thought ive googled i cant find usefull things
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: it's ok if I take the usb hub out & plug the pen drive directly in
[05:16] <payam> edit: ia have not
[05:16] <limale> hello to every body
[05:16] <DexterF> llutz: usually I'm with you on that type of remark but not here, USB_SUSPEND in 7.04 is experimental and doesn't belong in a stable release. yes I know, he doesn't have 7.04, but still I wouldn't rule out a similar thing here.
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: I don't have windows on this hdd, & I need a file of it, anyway directly plugging in gets me to where I need to be :/
[05:16] <ubuntu> id like to thank all of you for your help .........nothing explaind .....
[05:17] <azzco> Is there somwhere to go for samba help?
[05:17] <limale> what packet i must install to have correct visualization of battery on my laptop ???
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: DexterF cheers guys
[05:17] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: I'm asking you questions
[05:17] <DexterF> got a hub myself that works fine on Slackware, XP, even on the Kub live DVD but not on the installed version
[05:17] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You haven't answered any
[05:17] <payam> Ubuntu, What was your problem PLZ
[05:17] <DaSkreech> hasan: try http://www.google.com/linux
[05:17] <limale> guidance-power-manager don't work correctly !
[05:18] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: yw. I guess I'll inquire the developers about that kind of usb issue, happened here, too
[05:18] <ubuntu> kan i reconfigure the xorg to  make my ubuntu workingf
[05:18] <TheGateKeeper> I will go & see what pclinuxos makes of it
[05:18] <DexterF> pcliwhat?
[05:18] <payam> Ubuntu, Whats you language?
[05:18] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: that would be good
[05:18] <ubuntu> english
[05:18] <payam> ubuntu, say you problem again from bigining
[05:18] <DexterF> *cough*liar*cough*
[05:19] <DexterF> scnr
[05:19] <azzco> ubuntu yes! just reboot into your normal ubuntu then ctrl+ alt + F1 log in then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:19] <limale> are there someone that can help me with control of battery on my laptop ?
[05:19] <ubuntu> my ubuntu crashedbecause the nvidia drivers
[05:19] <payam> okej! keep on
[05:19] <azzco> ubuntu Just do what I told you ;)
[05:19] <crdlb> ubuntu, add -phigh to the command that azzco gave you
[05:19] <limale> azzco: is for me ?
[05:19] <rowenthedark> limale: isnt there a panel option for monitoring the battery?
[05:20] <crdlb> ubuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:20] <DexterF> does the live system create a swap file on found win partitions?
[05:20] <azzco> limale: I was speaking to ubuntu but if it helps you then yes
[05:20] <medkarim> He everybody
[05:20] <limale> azzco: your response is for me ?
[05:21] <azzco> not initally
[05:21] <payam> limale, could you explain for me Ubuntus problem?
[05:21] <crdlb> limale, that won't help you
[05:21] <medkarim> I have a problem with my sound card , i'm running Kubuntu feisty
[05:21] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you mount the hard drive ?
[05:22] <payam> med Karim, Have you active your sound card on Bios?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> crdlb, azzco: going to have to help him mount the drive to get onto his system
[05:22] <medkarim> Yes , of course
[05:22] <payam> Are you sure?
[05:22] <payam> Look at it
[05:22] <payam> Do you hear something?
[05:22] <payam> hur
[05:22] <medkarim> Yes , i hear sound but very Low
[05:23] <medkarim> Volume is at 100%
[05:23] <payam> have you right click on Sound icon and seen what s going on there?
[05:23] <azzco> medkarim: is that in kmix?
[05:23] <medkarim> Yes , Kmix
[05:24] <medkarim> payam : Yes I have already do that
[05:24] <payam> medKarin, mmm
[05:24] <payam> medkarim
[05:25] <payam> Have you seen you microfone?
[05:25] <payam> D o they workd correctly?
[05:25] <payam> what the cabel
[05:25] <medkarim> No , I dont have
[05:25] <payam> no no
[05:26] <medkarim> This is my "pc-portable"
[05:26] <payam> i dont mean that
[05:26] <pixelbrei> hi... anyone tried to install mayavi in feisty? i'm getting python-related errors, seems like mayavi wants python 2.4 where 2.5 is installed
[05:26] <payam> medkarim, what s your laguage?
[05:26] <payam> medKarim
[05:27] <payam> aha , okej
[05:27] <medkarim> In fact , i speak Arabic
[05:27] <medkarim> but also
[05:27] <medkarim> french and english !
[05:27] <payam> ubuntu-fr
[05:27] <payam> #ubuntu-fr
[05:27] <payam> You can ask your question there, My english is so bad
[05:27] <payam> :-(
[05:27] <medkarim> Thanks , but i have no solution there
[05:28] <medkarim> No , You speak very good ;)
[05:28] <payam> medKarim, waite
[05:28] <payam> I wana ask somone els
[05:29] <payam> Medkarim do you use Asla derive?
[05:29] <payam> Alsa
[05:29] <medkarim> Yes
[05:30] <payam> wirte " alsamixer" on a terminal
[05:30] <medkarim> ok
[05:31] <medkarim> I have a screen with equalizer (terminal )
[05:31] <medkarim> But master volume is 0%
[05:32] <payam> could you high the volume?
[05:32] <payam> with your soud icon to right?
[05:33] <medkarim> No , there is no Bar for Master volume
[05:33] <medkarim> Only PCM , and Mic
[05:33] <payam> medKarim, no no, what do you do to high your volume normaly
[05:33] <payam> you click on sound icon to right , there down right?
[05:33] <medkarim> With Kmix
[05:33] <medkarim> Yes
[05:34] <payam> medkarim, go on the terminal
[05:34] <medkarim> ok
[05:34] <payam> click on windows and select Master and highit with the Pil on your keybord
[05:34] <sivaji> hendaus : hi
[05:34] <payam> Do you undrstand?
[05:35] <medkarim> No all
[05:35] <payam> look
[05:35] <medkarim> click on terminal ?
[05:35] <payam> new terminal
[05:35] <payam> write " alsamixer"
[05:35] <medkarim> ok
[05:36] <frojnd> does anyone know where I could get some skydome images for beryl?
[05:36] <medkarim> And then ?
[05:36] <sivaji> frojnd #beryl
[05:36] <payam> and click on up pil
[05:36] <payam> on your keybord
[05:37] <payam> and high the volume
[05:37] <medkarim> I have PCM , a
[05:37] <medkarim> PCM at 100% , and Mic at 100%
[05:37] <payam> you can select othersection
[05:37] <payam> medkarim
[05:37] <medkarim> no :(
[05:38] <payam> I see Master-Master IV, headphone
[05:38] <payam> 3D control
[05:38] <payam> I mean them
[05:38] <medkarim> send you screen ?
[05:38] <sivaji> medkarim open kmix and check  the buttons
[05:39] <payam> sicaji, you can help him, i must go
[05:39] <darkrift__> how do i start the adept update checker (not the package manager)
[05:39] <medkarim> Volume is 100% for all channels
[05:39] <darkrift__> mine somehow closed (the tray icon)
[05:39] <payam> medkarim, when you open a terminal and wirted  you can control your volume whith left , right, up, down arrow
[05:39] <darkrift__> and i wanna check for updates
[05:40] <medkarim> I know , but I hear low sound
[05:40] <sivaji> darkrift__ "sudo apt-get update"
[05:40] <darkrift__> no, the gui version
[05:40] <sivaji> darkrift__ use adept
[05:41] <darkrift__> the adept updater that sits in your tray telling you yo have x updates available
[05:41] <darkrift__> i tried adept manager, thats for installing packages
[05:41] <darkrift__> doesnt show me upgradeable ones
[05:41] <limale2> hello
[05:41] <limale2>  :-)
[05:41] <darkrift__> hola
[05:41] <medkarim> How much channel , you can adjust ?
[05:41] <Scullder> 'soir
[05:42] <medkarim> By keyboard
[05:42] <limale2> i have some problem with battery management of my notebook on kubuntu 7.04
[05:42] <sivaji> darkrift__ adept will show u click fetch update later will see upgradable package
[05:42] <limale2> in particular my kde-guidance-power-manager don't work correctly
[05:42] <limale2> some one can help me ?
[05:43] <sivaji> darkrift__ u will have options their like show only installed ,show only upgradable
[05:44] <sivaji> medkarim try #ubuntu
[05:44] <sivaji> limale2 try #ubuntu
[05:44] <darkrift__> ok
[05:44] <darkrift__> i c
[05:45] <limale2> but I have kubuntu !
[05:49] <lucio_> salve
[05:50] <lucio_> qualcuno puo aiutarmi?
[05:51] <Jucato> !it | lucio_
[05:51] <ubotu> lucio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:52] <lucio_> grazie a te..
[05:52] <lucio_> scusa
[05:53] <limale2> what are the package necessary to manage the battery in notebook using kubuntu ?
[05:56] <Sesshy> Hey, is there anybody here that can help me? I'm having boot problems with a fresh install of Kubuntu.
[05:56] <Sesshy> Hello? Is anybody there?
[05:57] <limale2> yes
[05:57] <limale2> but, nobody answer
[05:57] <Sesshy> could you possibly help me troubleshoot my boot issues, limale2? or are you looking for support as well?
[05:57] <limale2> I don't find any help!
[05:57] <Sesshy> *patpat*
[05:57] <limale2> yes
[05:57] <limale2> I find support for battery management
[05:58] <limale2> but I fon't find nobody that can help me
[05:58] <DexterF> Sesshy: just describe the problem
[05:58] <jacques> Does someone installed realplayer on gutsy?
[05:58] <Sesshy> Well, on a completely fresh install of Kubuntu, single boot, GRUB gives me a completely blank screen on normal bootup
[05:58] <DexterF> i'd ask about gutsy un #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <Sesshy> however,
[05:58] <DexterF> Sesshy: ok: what video card?
[05:59] <limale2> are there someone that have installed package for power (battery) management ?
[05:59] <DexterF> limale2: how does it not work properly?
[05:59] <Sesshy> when pressing esc and booting with recovery mode, it logs in as root with just the console interface, and then I can type "exit", which makes it load KDE normally and everything works fine
[05:59] <limale2> I can't view the level of my battery
[05:59] <Sesshy> 8800GTS
[06:00] <Sesshy> 640 meg version, that is
[06:00] <DexterF> Sesshy: and: is grub itself not showing the boot menu, or do you mean boot messages once you selected a kernel? can you log in, does kdm come up?
[06:00] <soulrider_> Sesshy: maybe you need to pass some parameters to the kernel? =/
[06:00] <Sesshy> yes, if I run GRUB in recovery mode and exit root when it gets to the terminal under recovery mode, it loads KDE normally
[06:00] <Sesshy> but normal boot gives me a black screen and nothing more
[06:00] <Sesshy> even though num locks works
[06:01] <DexterF> Sesshy: and if you just let it boot the default image, all is black and you never get a login screen?
[06:01] <Sesshy> yep
[06:01] <Sesshy> it was the same with ubuntu, as well
[06:01] <jacques> i can not run realplayer and skype on gutsy
[06:01] <Sesshy> I've tried both
[06:01] <Sesshy> both latest downloads of the live DVD
[06:01] <soulrider> Sesshy: remove the splash and quiet options and boot and see if yopu get any errors
[06:01] <limale2> DexterF: I can't view the level of my battery and when I plug-off the ac_adaptor, the software don't change automatically the battery icon !!
[06:01] <soulrider> jacques: for gutsy go to #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <soulrider> jacques: why are you using gutsy anyways, its not even beta
[06:02] <Sesshy> soulrider: how do I remove those options? I have next to zero experience with linux and console commands
[06:02] <Sesshy> I can follow directions, but I need to know what to type
[06:02] <soulrider> Sesshy: when youre selecting the option to boor, press e to edit, just remove those options and press bt o boot
[06:02] <DexterF> hmmm.... looks like the console blocks X or sumsuch. Sesshy, boot to console, and with sudo edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and in the line for the default kernel change "splash quiet" to vga=792, see if that helps
[06:02] <Sesshy> okay, lemme try that, sounds good
[06:03] <soulrider> DexterF: its better if he doesnt make the changes permanent
[06:03] <raccon> ola
[06:04] <DexterF> soulrider: if that permanently fixes it, it would be my choice. edit the line from grub *each time* sounds liek a hassle to me at least.
[06:04] <soulrider> hola
[06:04] <soulrider> DexterF: if that works then make the changed permanent
[06:04] <raccon> Poprtugal is the best
[06:04] <raccon> *portugal
[06:04] <soulrider> !pt | raccon
[06:04] <ubotu> raccon: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:05] <Sesshy> okay, I removed quiet, but there was no splash option that was visible
[06:05] <DexterF> soulrider: ah, see your point. well, I'm pretty sure this doesn't at least make it worse, hence I omitted testing from grub editing.
[06:05] <Sesshy> now I just get a flashing underscore in the upper right hand corner instead of a black screen
[06:05] <DexterF> Sesshy: are you in the system right now?
[06:05] <Sesshy> yes
[06:06] <DexterF> can you paste the menu.lst on a pastebin? without passwords, if there are any of course
[06:06] <Sesshy> also, there seems to be two kernel versions to boot from here
[06:06] <Sesshy> 2.6.20-16 and -15
[06:06] <soulrider> Sesshy: choose any
[06:06] <Sesshy> I did run updates when I had KDE running previously
[06:06] <soulrider> -16 is newer
[06:06] <DexterF> is there a kaffeine-0.8.4 package for feisty?
[06:07] <soulrider> !info kaffeine
[06:07] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2186 kB, installed size 6044 kB
[06:07] <coreymon77> not on the regular repos
[06:07] <coreymon77> but you may be able to find a repo for it on the kaffeine site
[06:08] <DexterF> soulrider: I know, that's what I have, hence I ask. I'm a little new to kubuntu and don't know all the hotshot 3rd party repositories yet
[06:08] <Sesshy> okay, I removed the splash and quiet options from the end of the first line of the -16 boot option
[06:08] <DexterF> google didnt bring up anything. well, ok, if all else fails UTSL :)
[06:08] <Sesshy> and it loaded fine
[06:08] <soulrider> DexterF: i never really used 3rd party repos in ubuntu
[06:08] <Sesshy> but I suspect that was only a temporary change?
[06:08] <soulrider> Sesshy: yes
[06:09] <DexterF> Sesshy: if you edited like I said: yes. if you did it from the grub "e" command: no
[06:09] <soulrider> now you gotta edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the changed permanent
[06:09] <DexterF> soulrider: i like bleeding edge ;)
[06:09] <Sesshy> soulrider/DexterF: okay, yes, I used the grub e command. How do I permanently edit the boot file?
[06:09] <coreymon77> DexterF: doesnt seem bleeding edge to me
[06:09] <coreymon77> DexterF: 0.8.4 is stable
[06:10] <Sesshy> I'm at the Konsole in KDE
[06:10] <DexterF> Sesshy: boot, grab your fav. editor and sudo <editor> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:10] <DexterF> vi, mcedit, whatever you favor
[06:10] <Sesshy> okay
[06:10] <soulrider> Sesshy: i suggets you use nano
[06:10] <DexterF> coreymon77: I used .4 on Slackware, know its stable, still it's the latest versionm that's kinda bleeding edge to me
[06:11] <DexterF> nano's cool, too
[06:11] <Sesshy> by the way, what is the default root password? I noticed that I wasn't prompted for one during the Kubuntu setup
[06:11] <Sesshy> and I also can't seem to use su
[06:11] <WebAppMonkey> In under an hour I switched from OpenSuSe to Kubuntu and have everything back to the way it was. Linux has come a long way, and it rocks! :)
[06:11] <llutz> Sesshy: theres no root-account, use sudo
[06:12] <llutz> Sesshy: that's ubuntus special philosophy....
[06:12] <WebAppMonkey> llutz: Do you know the reasoning behind that?
[06:12] <Sesshy> llutz: interesting, is that just the way that ubuntu's set up?
[06:12] <Sesshy> yeah, I was wondering the same as WebAppMonkey
[06:12] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: they wanted to improve system-security ....
[06:13] <WebAppMonkey> llutz: And how does removing the root account and instead giving users full-access through sudo help?
[06:13] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: they prevent users from working all the time as root
[06:13] <llutz> now, users use all useless commands with sudo in front :(
[06:13] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: i don't see any improvement in this
[06:14] <DexterF> Sesshy: sudo bash gives you a root shell
[06:14] <llutz> sudo su too
[06:14] <llutz> sudo password creates a root-account
[06:14] <DexterF> intersting
[06:14] <DexterF> can i still sudo like before?
[06:15] <llutz> sure
[06:15] <WebAppMonkey> It seems far less secure than a normal root/user seperation though... by using the same password etc...
[06:15] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: that's what i think too
[06:15] <DexterF> me, too
[06:16] <Sesshy> okay, well, I edited the menu.lst file even though kate gave me a bunch of errors in the console before actually opening it, I suppose it doesn't matter
[06:16] <llutz> but anyway, they decided to this, so we have to use it or not
[06:16] <Sesshy> gonna reboot
[06:16] <tom_> anyone know how i can use opengl over vnc?
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> sudo su
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> passwd
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> will let you change the root password to a known value
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> And removing a user from the admin group will remove sudo privs
[06:17] <DexterF> tom_: haha. forget it.
[06:17] <DexterF> tom_: I'd rather ssh -X and forward the entire gl app
[06:17] <coreymon77> DexterF: it should be in the repos
[06:17] <tom_> has no1 tried virtualgl?
[06:17] <Sesshy> sweet, removing the splash and quiet parameters worked, boots just fine now
[06:17] <Sesshy> thanks a lot, guys
[06:17] <DexterF> yw
[06:17] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: but kdesu/gksu are also linked to sudo, not to su. so you might run in trouble when remove your user from admin-grp
[06:18] <DexterF> tom_: never hear about that one
[06:18] <Sesshy> so according to google, it sounds like the splash screen is a known issue with ubuntu
[06:18] <Sesshy> is that the case?
[06:18] <tom_> DexterF: kk
[06:18] <WebAppMonkey> llutz: Yuck
[06:18] <fdoving> llutz: you can configure kdesu to use su.
[06:18] <Sesshy> you guys seemed to know exactly what I needed to do
[06:18] <llutz> fdoving: really? never checked that. tnx
[06:18] <fdoving> llutz: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FrodeDoeving/Tips
[06:18] <DexterF> Sesshy: got sth similar, no text during splash, but login comes up. guess  ill file a bug
[06:18] <fdoving> llutz: tip 5.
[06:19] <llutz> fdoving: too easy :)
[06:19] <Sesshy> what does the quiet parameter do, by the way? I'm guessing the splash is equivalent to the XP loading screen
[06:19] <WebAppMonkey> I am having problems running a 32-bit GLU app (defcon) on my 64-bit system. I can't find a GLU-compat in the default repos, is there a special compat repo I have to add?
[06:19] <coreymon77> Sesshy: youre new to linux arent you
[06:20] <Sesshy> coreymon77: absolutely, I have basically zero experience
[06:20] <DexterF> I'm not and I don't know eiither
[06:20] <Sesshy> I really don't know anything yet
[06:20] <DexterF> I just never had fancy eye candy
[06:20] <fdoving> Sesshy: quiet outputs less messages, when booting.
[06:20] <coreymon77> Sesshy: first tip of linux
[06:20] <coreymon77> Sesshy: dont make comparissons to windoze
[06:20] <DexterF> who would want *less* messages about the boot process?
[06:20] <BlueDevil> where can i find the tutorial for compiling the kernel?
[06:21] <fdoving> DexterF: most people with a working system? :)
[06:21] <Sesshy> coreymon77: yes, I understand that it's completely different, I merely have nothing else with which to reference in my own mind XD
[06:21] <WebAppMonkey> BlueDevil: make menuconfig, make, make modules, make modules_install, make install
[06:21] <alexander__> yo anyone here?
[06:21] <coreymon77> hi
[06:21] <WebAppMonkey> BlueDevil: Just make sure your root filesystem is compiled INTO the kernel, NOT as a module.
[06:21] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: nah, i need the proper stuff which creates packages
[06:21] <DexterF> fdoving: the way kubuntu makes bold moves towards bleeding edge even in the kernel, "less messages" sounds like a bad idea to me
[06:21] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: no "make install", build a package
[06:22] <[nk] > make-kpkg kernel_image
[06:22] <[nk] > !
[06:22] <Sesshy> fdoving: I have to agree with DexterF, I always disable my bios splash screens and the like
[06:22] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: i will keep the existing config, just add himem support
[06:22] <WebAppMonkey> Bah, you package-mangement people....
[06:22] <WebAppMonkey> You're all weird
[06:22] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: i can't believe nowadays a kernel is shipped without himem/PAE enabled
[06:22] <fdoving> DexterF: ok. you're free to have that opinion :)
[06:22] <limale2> I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks
[06:22] <[nk] > :)
[06:23] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: how do i generate the initrd image?
[06:23] <[nk] > make-kpkg is a good way of keeping apt happy
[06:23] <WebAppMonkey> BlueDevil: I'm fresh from slackware, nowadays the kernel is still 2.2 ;)
[06:23] <BlueDevil> cool :)
[06:23] <llutz> hehe, my last slack was 2.2 :)
[06:23] <BlueDevil> left slack behind in '98 :)
[06:24] <[nk] > BlueDevil: 'make-kpkg kernel_image' will build a .deb that you can dpkg -i
[06:24] <DexterF> WebAppMonkey: liar :) pat packs 2.6 by default in -current
[06:24] <WebAppMonkey> Oh wait, it's 2.4.. sorry :)
[06:24] <WebAppMonkey> DexterF: Ohhh, when did that happen?
[06:24] <[nk] > bluedevil: the initrd and everything will be built automagically
[06:24] <Sesshy> So, all you experienced linux users, I've been meaning to ask one of you ever since I started getting all confused with the guides that have you do all of the console operations
[06:24] <Sesshy> where's a good place to start learning to be an advanced user?
[06:25] <BlueDevil> [nk] : do i need to dpkg -i the initrd or will it be placed in /boot automatically?
[06:25] <Sesshy> I'm not an idiot, and I learn fast; I just need to know the best way to get experience
[06:25] <coreymon77> Sesshy: use your system
[06:25] <DexterF> WebAppMonkey: after the big pause after 11.0, when he fumbled the all-2.6.-headers in and threw out some old cruft
[06:25] <coreymon77> Sesshy: thats how
[06:25] <alexander__> PEOPLE i think this is no help channel but i have a question about printers... is there any possibility to get the printer LEXMARK P6350 working on Kubuntu/Ubuntu?????
[06:25] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: My suggestion would be to start playing around with a terminal
[06:25] <DexterF> few weeks ago
[06:25] <alexander__> PEOPLE i think this is no help channel but i have a question about printers... is there any possibility to get the printer LEXMARK P6350 working on Kubuntu/Ubuntu?????
[06:25] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the best way to learn is to just use linux
[06:25] <alexander__> s5y
[06:25] <alexander__> sry
[06:25] <[nk] > BlueDevil: it all gets cp'd over to /boot
[06:25] <DexterF> alexander__: this *is* a help chan but try linuxprinting.org, they have a database
[06:25] <coreymon77> alexander__: probably
[06:25] <coreymon77> alexander__: and watch your atitude
[06:25] <alexander__> no they don't
[06:25] <Sesshy> coreymon77: that makes sense, but how do you learn all of the console commands? is there a big list of them somewhere that you can memorize or reference?
[06:25] <WebAppMonkey> DexterF: Crazy, I thought he would never call 2.6 stable
[06:25] <coreymon77> alexander__: if you ever want to get help, be a little nicer
[06:26] <limale2> I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks
[06:26] <alexander__> ok
[06:26] <coreymon77> Sesshy: do them one at a time
[06:26] <coreymon77> Sesshy: first one to learn is apt
[06:26] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: type in a few letters and hit [tab] [tab]  It'll give you a list of commands there
[06:26] <alexander__> it was not my intention to be rough but my english isn't really good
[06:26] <Sesshy> coreymon77: okay, that sounds good, thanks! ^^
[06:26] <DexterF> WebAppMonkey: "stable" wasn't *that* much of an issue lately but rather teh headers, going all 2.6 headers breaks some old stuff. most distros have heavily patched/merged headers
[06:26] <[nk] > BlueDevil: /etc/kernel-*.conf has neat stuff in it
[06:27] <alexander__> and... no they don't have any drivers
[06:27] <BlueDevil> [nk] : there a tutorial that says to do "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs" what's that all about?
[06:27] <coreymon77> alexander__: ill give it a try
[06:27] <Sesshy> coreymon77: ooh, hitting tab twice after entering a command gives you a list of different syntaxes, huh? o.o
[06:27] <coreymon77> alexander__: whats the printer?
[06:27] <WebAppMonkey> Oh, I still have a problem with getting some GLU 32-bit compat libraries... Any suggested repositories?
[06:27] <alexander__> LEXMARK P6350
[06:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: yes, tab completion, very useful to learn
[06:27] <DexterF> alexander__: they so totally have a database
[06:28] <alexander__> no it is the P6250
[06:28] <[nk] > BlueDevil: hm, another way of building the debs, I suppose.  I don't bother with fakeroot as I always build/install the kernel as root
[06:28] <BlueDevil> [nk] : will i need to rebuild the nvidia drivers for the new kernel?
[06:29] <[nk] > BlueDevil: yep, sure will
[06:29] <alexander__> sry...
[06:29] <alexander__> i searched some days ago... they had no infos about the printer
[06:29] <Jabapyth> Where (on my computer) is the list of things that get executed every time I log in?
[06:29] <llutz> alexander__: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-P6350
[06:29] <DexterF> Jabapyth: /etc/init.d
[06:30] <DexterF> Jabapyth: oh wait, my fault
[06:30] <Jabapyth> thaks
[06:30] <Sesshy> coreymon77: so I hit tab twice in a blank field and I get a confirmation for a list of 1818 possible commands. Is that an exhaustive list of all possible console commands?
[06:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: dont try to learn them all
[06:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: take it slow
[06:30] <limale2> I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks
[06:30] <Jabapyth> DexterF: what?
[06:30] <DexterF> Jabapyth: got you wrong, confused boot time / login.
[06:30] <Sesshy> coreymon7: Of course not, I was just curious o.o
[06:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: heres something you gotta learn about linux
[06:30] <DexterF> Jabapyth: what do you mean, like autostart apps or rather settings?
[06:30] <Jabapyth> DexterF: autostart apps
[06:31] <alexander__> but theres no driver ... nor any help
[06:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you are used to windows, and in windows, it doesnt let you do anyting that will muck up your system
[06:31] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: Yeah, that'll list all available commands -- Also, typing in a few letters of a command and hitting tab once will finish typing the command if you have a unique start... ie, lspcm[tab]
[06:31] <alexander__> shall I post a topic?
[06:31] <llutz> alexander__: ask lexmark for a driver
[06:31] <DexterF> Jabapyth: /home/<username>/.kde/Autostart. you can drag apps from the menu into konqueror there and select "link"
[06:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the thing with linux is, especially with the terminal, that sure you have way more control, but you also have the control to fark up your system royally
[06:31] <Jabapyth> DexterF: thanks!
[06:31] <DexterF> yw
[06:31] <llutz> alexander__: http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_659668505_0_en,00.html
[06:31] <[nk] > BlueDevil: if you want the kernel-headers installed as a package, too, you could just run 'make-kpkg binary-arch' which will build kernel_image and kernel_headers
[06:32] <fdoving> Jabapyth: by default there is also a "restore previous session" feature enabled. that means, all apps left running when you logged out, are restarted.
[06:32] <DexterF> a'ight, afk
[06:32] <Sesshy> WebAppMonkey: Ah, I see, invaluable tip, thanks ^^
[06:32] <alexander__> i sent a mail two days ago ... they didn't answer...
[06:32] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: for instance, anything involving the command `rm` remove, and /* (from root, everything) is very baddd
[06:33] <Sesshy> WebAppMonkey: Well, yes, I do know that I'm not supposed to stay logged in as root due to the risk of damaging important system files, hence the sudo and su commands, right?
[06:33] <coreymon77> Sesshy: yes, in linux you can do anything
[06:33] <coreymon77> Sesshy: so never go playing around in terminal windows
[06:34] <coreymon77> Sesshy: do things graphically at first
[06:34] <coreymon77> and slowly start to learn other things
[06:34] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the nist important command for you to learn first is how to use apt
[06:35] <Sesshy> coreymon77: what kind of tasks is apt used for?
[06:35] <coreymon77> apt is for installing stuff
[06:35] <Sesshy> it looks like it's for managing packages or something
[06:35] <coreymon77> and for upgrading
[06:35] <alexander__> http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:495:0:0   ... no linux support
[06:35] <coreymon77> alexander__: im sorry, its not possible at the moment
[06:36] <coreymon77> !apt
[06:36] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:36] <coreymon77> if you ever want to install something, apt is the best and eaist way to dfo it
[06:37] <alexander__> isn't there something like an universal driver?
[06:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: not everything is on apt, but most are
[06:37] <Sesshy> coreymon77: but should I prefer a command interface over a graphical one for installing packages?
[06:37] <coreymon77> alexander__: nope
[06:37] <alexander__> i heard something similar before...
[06:37] <alexander__> oh
[06:37] <alexander__> ok
[06:37] <darkrift__> !adept
[06:37] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:37] <llutz> alexander__: universal drivers need standarized hardware lexmark isn't
[06:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: nope, its all personal preference
[06:37] <alexander__> okeydokey...
[06:37] <alexander__> thank you...
[06:37] <Sesshy> does the graphical interface not display all of the packages that are accessible through apt?
[06:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: it makes no difference whether you do it command line or graphical, its all what you feel comfortable with
[06:38] <Sesshy> ah, I see
[06:38] <coreymon77> Sesshy: no, graphicxal methods are the exact same as command line
[06:38] <alexander__> shall I post news about the printer... I think, shall I post the email reply in ubuntuforums or anywhere else???
[06:38] <alexander__> If I get one
[06:38] <coreymon77> Sesshy: it makes no difference
[06:38] <Sesshy> coreymon77 or ubotu: how do you recommend I go about installing the drivers for my 8800GTS?
[06:39] <coreymon77> ubotu is a bot
[06:39] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[06:39] <darkrift__> lol
[06:39] <Sesshy> ah, I see XD
[06:39] <Sesshy> I don't feel very smart today :3
[06:39] <coreymon77> Sesshy: what do you want to install?
[06:39] <Sesshy> nVidia drivers for my 8800GTS
[06:40] <jason10> on the subject of package guis ..  i heard that using both synaptic and adept can cause problems, and that i should stick to just one or the other, is that true?
[06:40] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you are using feisty right?
[06:40] <Sesshy> coreymon77: I had done all of that with Fedora 7 using a guide that described exactly what package servers/etc. to access via console commands
[06:40] <Sesshy> but I'm sure that it's totally different with Ubuntu because it's a different package system
[06:40] <BlueDevil> [nk] : i don't suppose there's an already built kernel with HIGHMEM support besides the bigiron kernels
[06:40] <Sesshy> and yes, I'm on Feisty
[06:41] <coreymon77> Sesshy: there is probably an easier way
[06:41] <[nk] > BlueDevil: no idea :)
[06:41] <BlueDevil> [nk] : where can i express my frustation? :)
[06:41] <Fable> hey guys. i have a question about beryl. when i start it the 3D effect where i should see a cube, i see a decagon. please help
[06:41] <fdoving> BlueDevil: are you on feisty?
[06:41] <[nk] > bahaha
[06:41] <BlueDevil> fdoving: yes
[06:41] <fdoving> BlueDevil: how much mem?
[06:41] <BlueDevil> 4GB
[06:42] <BlueDevil> it's pretty dumb that in this day and age a kernel gets shipped without HIGHMEM support
[06:42] <Fable> anyone?
[06:42] <BlueDevil> i wonder what was the reasoning behind that :-/
[06:42] <fdoving> BlueDevil: well, they are not. they support 4GB out of the box. 'grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic' to check.
[06:43] <Fable> can someone help me please.
[06:43] <llutz> BlueDevil:  CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y , CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
[06:43] <fdoving> Fable: #ubuntu-effects might be more helpfull for beryl issues. they are experts.
[06:43] <Sesshy> Hm, now Adept says that I have the "nvidia-kernel-common" package installed, but to be quite honest I'm not sure if that means I have working drivers
[06:43] <Fable> ok thanks
[06:44] <BlueDevil> fdoving & llutz : indeed
[06:44] <Sesshy> I mean, I still have choppy/sluggish interface performance characteristic of that without drivers
[06:44] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the GeForce 8800 GTS right?
[06:44] <Sesshy> so I think I need to get them somehow..
[06:44] <BlueDevil> then why would it "see" only 2G on my box?
[06:44] <Sesshy> coreymon77: Yes, that's it, the 640 meg version
[06:45] <BlueDevil> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25399/ that's what it outputs on my box
[06:45] <llutz> BlueDevil: and what are you missing?
[06:46] <BlueDevil> llutz: what do you mean?
[06:46] <llutz> BlueDevil: " Warning only 4GB will be used."  <- so what?
[06:46] <BlueDevil> in /proc/meminfo i get this: MemTotal:      2059300 kB
[06:47] <BlueDevil> if i boot a bigiron kernel it "sees" all 4GB
[06:47] <Sesshy> coreymon77: should I install the "nvidia-glx" package? Its description says "XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver", but I'm running x86-64, so shouldn't there be a 64-bit version of the driver for me?
[06:47] <coreymon77> Sesshy: we will see
[06:47] <BlueDevil> fwiw, i'm on a core2duo e6600 with an asus p5b-deluxe mobo
[06:48] <BlueDevil> i don't suppose a bios update will help...
[06:49] <coreymon77> Sesshy: first type this
[06:49] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get update
[06:49] <coreymon77> into a terminal
[06:49] <brendan_> hi, whenver i run amarok, or kaffiene they just lock up
[06:50] <Sesshy> hm, "unable to lock the administration directory"
[06:50] <Sesshy> oh, wait
[06:50] <coreymon77> did you use sudo?
[06:50] <Sesshy> that could be because I had Adept open
[06:50] <coreymon77> ya
[06:50] <coreymon77> no worrys
[06:50] <BlueDevil> you've given up hope on me :((
[06:50] <brendan_> arts is working because i get all the normal system sounds, and flash playes audio
[06:50] <coreymon77> you can use adept if you want
[06:50] <Sesshy> there we go
[06:50] <coreymon77> okay
[06:50] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get udpate
[06:51] <coreymon77> update
[06:51] <Sesshy> yep, looks like that worked
[06:51] <Sesshy> what next?
[06:51] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:52] <BluesKaj> brendan_, sudo apt-get install xine
[06:52] <fdoving> BlueDevil: you don't miss out much memory, you can of course recompile the kernel with 64G support, but i would never bother.
[06:53] <Sesshy> coreymon77: okay, cool, that's downloading/unpacking
[06:53] <BlueDevil> fdoving: i miss half my memory (2G)
[06:53] <Sesshy> done
[06:53] <fdoving> BlueDevil: so you have 8G  memory?
[06:53] <brendan_> BluesKaj: it says there is no installation candidate
[06:53] <Sesshy> what does the restricted-manager parameter mean, by the way? sorry, I'm just one of those people that does things much better if I know what's happening and why XD
[06:53] <BlueDevil> fdoving: no, i have 4G, but it only sees 2G
[06:54] <coreymon77> Sesshy: thats the package name
[06:54] <BlueDevil> fdoving: in /proc/meminfo i get this: MemTotal:      2059300 kB
[06:54] <Sesshy> BlueDevil: if you're running 32-bit, chances are you won't see all of your RAM
[06:54] <coreymon77> Sesshy: apt downloads packages from sites called repositories and then isntalls them to your system
[06:54] <BlueDevil> Sesshy: i know, but i hope it'll see about 3.5GB instead of the current 2GB
[06:54] <DJServers> !Nvidia
[06:54] <BlueDevil> Sesshy: it should see it all with PAE
[06:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:55] <Sesshy> BlueDevil: I hear that RAM recognition using 32-bit systems is mobo-dependent or something like that. I don't personally know, though, just what I hear XD
[06:55] <fdoving> BlueDevil: you're suffering from this: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2005-11/msg00274.html
[06:55] <BluesKaj> brendan look for xine in adept ..amarok-xine and kaffeine-xine
[06:55] <Sesshy> BlueDevil: errr, 32-bit OSes, I meant. Even on 64-bit hardware people running 32-bit OS supposedly can't see all RAM
[06:56] <DJServers> cant you see it inKinforCenter ?
[06:57] <brendan_> BluesKaj: amarok-xine, kaffiene-xine, libxine1 and libxine1-kde is installed
[06:57] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okay, so is that done installing
[06:58] <Sesshy> coreymon77: yes, restricted-manager is all done
[06:58] <coreymon77> okay
[06:58] <coreymon77> since im not too sure where that isntalled to
[06:58] <coreymon77> type sudo restricted-manager
[06:59] <BlueDevil> fdoving: reading
[06:59] <crdlb> Sesshy, that driver won't work on the 8800
[06:59] <BluesKaj> brendan libxine-extracodecs
[06:59] <coreymon77> Sesshy: is it open?
[06:59] <fdoving> BlueDevil: basically it says your bios is responsible for this, and you need a 64G highmem enabled kernel to be able to address all your memory, because the bios makes "holes" like that.
[06:59] <Sesshy> coreymon77: okay, that opened a GUI screen that appears to be downloading drivers
[07:00] <crdlb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/103050
[07:00] <coreymon77> well, do you see your nvidia card in the list?
[07:00] <Sesshy> crdlb: really? is there another source from which I should get the drivers?
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: this works
[07:00] <crdlb> coreymon77, it doesn't work for the 8800
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: i know it as a fact
[07:00] <crdlb> no it doesn't
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: yes it does
[07:00] <crdlb> do you have an 8800?
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: the 8800 is in teh lsit of cards that it works with
[07:00] <crdlb> coreymon77, it is but it doesn't work
[07:01] <BlueDevil> fdoving: can i get my bios version from linux? i want to check if an update exists and look at the changelog
[07:01] <crdlb> read the bug I linked to
[07:01] <coreymon77> crdlb: the 8800 gls
[07:01] <crdlb> coreymon77, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/103050
[07:01] <Sesshy> crdlb: is there a solution at this time, or am I driverless?
[07:01] <brendan_> BluesKaj: hmm that didn't seem to help
[07:01] <Sesshy> crdlb: because I know that I had working drivers for my card under Fedora, I just used a guide that told me a special alternate way to get them
[07:01] <crdlb> Sesshy, I'm not sure what the best solution is atm
[07:02] <coreymon77> Sesshy: then dont do i
[07:02] <fdoving> BlueDevil: might be possible, i don't know.
[07:02] <coreymon77> t
[07:02] <coreymon77> Sesshy: your fine for now
[07:02] <crdlb> Sesshy, you can manually copy over the libwfb.so
[07:02] <Sesshy> crdlb: what is that file? is that a driver that's confirmed to work with the 8800?
[07:02] <llutz> BlueDevil:  sudo dmidecode |grep -i -A 6 BIOS\ Information
[07:02] <crdlb> Sesshy, the driver the restricted manager installs /does/ support the 8800
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: all he needs is that file right?
[07:03] <crdlb> however when it was packaged by ubuntu, they left out that file
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: cant he get it from somehwere?
[07:03] <crdlb> coreymon77, yes
[07:03] <BlueDevil> llutz: thanks
[07:03] <crdlb> yes
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: well then problem solved
[07:03] <Sesshy> crdlb: ah, I see, so I just need to cover up their mistake by manually editing in the file
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: isntalls the driver, gets the file
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: problem solved
[07:03] <crdlb> yes that should do it
[07:04] <Sesshy> crdlb: okay, where do I get the file, and where do I manually copy it to?
[07:04] <DJServers> lol ;P now it is hard :P
[07:04] <coreymon77> crdlb: wouldnt he have to install the driver first
[07:04] <coreymon77> ?
[07:05] <crdlb> coreymon77, yes
[07:05] <Sesshy> coreymon77: driver is installed, yes
[07:05] <crdlb> Sesshy, try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641/comments/18
[07:05] <Sesshy> crdlb: it's installed and wants me to reboot. I presume that I should copy that file before rebooting?
[07:05] <coreymon77> Sesshy: most likeley
[07:06] <Sesshy> crdlb: okay, that says i386 fix, but I'm running an x86-64 install
[07:06] <crdlb> Sesshy, indeed
[07:06] <Sesshy> crdlb: is that a problem?
[07:06] <crdlb> yep
[07:06] <Sesshy> crdlb: crap, well, wait, was the original problem only with the i386 files? should the x86-64 drivers have all the needed resources?
[07:07] <crdlb> Sesshy, no it's just that fix is written for 386
[07:07] <Sesshy> crdlb: argh, that puts me between a rock and a hard spot x_x
[07:07] <Sesshy> or so it sounds
[07:07] <crdlb> If you just get the 64bit version of the intaller, it should work
[07:07] <coreymon77> well, there has to be something for 64 bit
[07:08] <BluesKaj> brendan_, I would check in both amarok and kaffeine options & settings to make sure both are using the xine-engine
[07:08] <coreymon77> crdlb: where would we find the 64 bit verison
[07:09] <Sesshy> crdlb: okay, well, I guess I would try to browse the linked nVidia resource website for the 64-bit version of that same file, but I'm not sure where to find a root directory
[07:09] <francois> hi, i have a external drive that wont automount, but when i mount it manually i dont have permission to view it, help ?
[07:09] <crdlb> Sesshy, wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:10] <Sesshy> crdlb: awesome, thanks.
[07:10] <BlueDevil> <-- upgrading bios
[07:10] <jacques> how can add some langage to my locales?
[07:10] <coreymon77> Sesshy: that will do it
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> BlueDevil: nothing to it.
[07:11] <DJServers> someone nows the game sa-mp? ( www.sa-mp.com ) i still dont now how to install the server :p
[07:11] <Sesshy> now, will this wget command override the driver installed by restricted-manager? there won't be any conflicts if I leave it where it is (asking me to reboot) will there?
[07:11] <coreymon77> Sesshy: wget doesnt install anything
[07:11] <coreymon77> Sesshy: it jsut downloads it
[07:12] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you have to run the file yourself
[07:12] <Sesshy> coreymon77: yeah, I was going to follow the other command instructions on that link, but after running all of those, is that essentially replacing what the restricted-manager did?
[07:12] <coreymon77> Sesshy: not really, its just adding that extra file probably
[07:12] <crdlb> Sesshy, no
[07:12] <crdlb> exactly
[07:13] <Sesshy> crdlb: ah, I see, good, good
[07:13] <crdlb> Sesshy, but you'll have to change the sudo cp -f line
[07:13] <stamen> hi
[07:13] <crdlb> to the right path
[07:13] <stamen> how to install the newest open office
[07:13] <coreymon77> Sesshy: what the restricted0manager did was good, it got you the driver that you needed, its just missing one file, this thing gets that file for you and puts it in the right place
[07:13] <stamen> all is in rpm's
[07:13] <coreymon77> stamen: cant you jsut apt it
[07:14] <stamen> I dont't have the source adress for edgy
[07:14] <coreymon77> arent they already in the repos
[07:14] <stamen> coreymon77: could you give it them to me if you have it
[07:14] <stamen> no
[07:14] <stamen> I think
[07:14] <coreymon77> stamen: what version of openoffice is this?
[07:15] <stamen> I want 2.2.1
[07:15] <stamen> I have 2.2.0
[07:15] <stamen> errot
[07:15] <coreymon77> oh
[07:15] <stamen> I have faisty
[07:15] <coreymon77> well then it isnt in the repos
[07:15] <coreymon77> is there a reason that you need this
[07:15] <stamen> feisty
[07:16] <stamen> lets say yes
[07:16] <stamen> :)
[07:16] <coreymon77> a .0.0,1 upgrade cant be much of a big difference
[07:16] <Sesshy> crdlb: by the way, how did you find the path for the 64 file? I also noticed that it's package 2 instead of package one, so you must have actually searched for it and not just altered the file names on a guess
[07:16] <crdlb> Sesshy, nvidia.com>download drivers>Linux>64bit archive :P
[07:17] <erichj> i switched to KDE last night and i still can't believe how much nicer than Gnome it is.
[07:17] <coreymon77> Sesshy: sometimes, the place to find the dirver is where they would normally be
[07:17] <Sesshy> crdlb: ah, I see, I see :3
[07:17] <coreymon77> Sesshy: nvidia supports linux
[07:18] <DexterF> well, they provide a binary driver.
[07:18] <stamen> coreymon77: but they have fixes
[07:18] <DexterF> but at least one that works, unlike ati :(
[07:18] <BlueDevil> new bios didn't fix it...
[07:19] <DexterF> !build
[07:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:19] <BlueDevil> off to building a new kernel...
[07:19] <DJServers> can someone help me in stall the server from this site: http://www.sa-mp.com/download.cml
[07:19] <BlueDevil> and nvidia drivers....
[07:19] <BlueDevil> and...
[07:19] <BlueDevil> :)
[07:19] <Sesshy> okay, the second line of code on that post there, "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2 -x" says that sh can't open the file
[07:20] <BluesKaj> DexterF, there is afix and modded patch for the ATI fglrx driver ... it's ahrd to find but if you want to check this out here's a URL : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[07:20] <javier_> Hello!
[07:20] <coreymon77> Sesshy: try openning as rot
[07:21] <javier_> Do you know if there is an easy way to set up a printer server using Samba?
[07:21] <DexterF> BluesKaj: I'm actually happier with r300 from Xorg, but thanks anyway. I only need enough 3D juice for Google Earth and the like. fglrx does that quite well, but crashes my machine evry now and then
[07:21] <BluesKaj> javier
[07:21] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the way to open things as root is by sudo ./[filename]
[07:22] <BluesKaj> DexterF, this one does both google earth and tv video layering if needed
[07:22] <coreymon77> Sesshy: perfect time for tab completion, type the first few letters of the fiel and then press tab
[07:22] <Sesshy> coreymon77: ah, thanks for reminding me, good idea
[07:22] <BluesKaj> DexterF, very stable, no probs yet with crashes
[07:23] <DexterF> my first few days on linux I typed everything out till a friend told me about tab completion :) ah, back then...
[07:23] <Sesshy> XD
[07:23] <Sesshy> coreymon77: well, did the command as root, but it still says it can't open the file
[07:23] <francois> hi, i have a external drive that wont automount, but when i mount it manually i dont have permission to view it, help ?
[07:23] <BluesKaj> javier_, have you tried the printer wizard with cups ?
[07:23] <coreymon77> Sesshy: tell me what you typed
[07:23] <Sesshy> coreymon77: well, actually, it's as if the file isn't there
[07:25] <Sesshy> I typed "sudo sh (filename) -x"
[07:25] <DexterF> BluesKaj: GL and Xv work with r300, too. only annoyance is GL overlaps everything no matter what has focus. well, ill see to fglrx eventually
[07:25] <coreymon77> no
[07:25] <coreymon77> bad
[07:25] <Sesshy> and now what I get is a syntax error, that a new line was expected
[07:25] <coreymon77> sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:25] <coreymon77> type that
[07:25] <Sesshy> well, I was just following the commands on that bug page o.o
[07:25] <Sesshy> but okay
[07:25] <BluesKaj> DexterF, you won't regret it
[07:26] <DexterF> BluesKaj: oh, forgot: no composite -> no beryl
[07:26] <Sesshy> coreymon77: what's the difference between sh and ./? and what was the -x that the page instructs you to type supposed to do?
[07:26] <coreymon77> no clue
[07:26] <coreymon77> but aparently is wasnt working
[07:26] <coreymon77> so
[07:26] <coreymon77> this is hwo you run files
[07:26] <Sesshy> well, this is saying that the command isn't found
[07:27] <rjune_> what is the tool to enable/disable initscripts in ubuntu? most rpm distros have chkconfig, the equiv in ubuntu is..?
[07:27] <Sesshy> when I type what you told me
[07:27] <soulrider> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <soulrider> Sesshy: install the drivers form the repos
[07:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okaty
[07:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: heres the plan
[07:27] <soulrider> its easier and you probably wont screw anything up
[07:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: use sh
[07:27] <BluesKaj> yeah DexterF same with this one, but i can do without beryl's eyecandy , so it's not a prob for me
[07:28] <klakette> bon, je vous souhaite une bonne soire, c'est fiesta pr moi ce soir ;)
[07:28] <soulrider> !fr
[07:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:28] <Sesshy> soulrider: the issue with the repos is that the packages are missing a file that I need for my card, it's apparently a verified issue, so you have to manually add the missing file
[07:28] <coreymon77> Sesshy: are you sure that it was -x at the end and not --x
[07:28] <soulrider> oh
[07:28] <coreymon77> lots of the times you have to use a double -
[07:28] <DexterF> how does that bot know that guys speaks french...?
[07:28] <Sesshy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641/comments/18
[07:28] <soulrider> when you chmod it its +x not -x
[07:28] <Sesshy> it could've been a typo, I guess
[07:28] <soulrider> i told it :P
[07:29] <DexterF> chmod +x would make sense, makes a file executable
[07:29] <coreymon77> Sesshy: do +x
[07:29] <BluesKaj> DexterF, by the !fr link...it tells the bot to generate that script
[07:29] <DexterF> !fr
[07:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:29] <DexterF> duh
[07:30] <Sesshy> whenever I do any of those, --x, -x, or +x, I get a syntax error saying "newline unexpected"
[07:30] <BluesKaj> hehe
[07:30] <azzco> I need help with samba, how do I add new users and how do I sett read/write permissions to all shared folders?
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okay
[07:30] <DexterF> i thought it autoparses it, didnt see the bot call :P
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: forget the -x at the end
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: just do sudo sh
[07:30] <Sesshy> hm, same error
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: that doesnt work
[07:30] <Sesshy> nope
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: works fine for me
[07:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: type that exact line
[07:31] <coreymon77> sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:31] <DexterF> Sesshy: sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run  ?
[07:31] <Sesshy> yeah, I get the same syntax error
[07:31] <Sesshy> it's really weird
[07:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: ummm
[07:31] <BluesKaj> copy and paste is easier
[07:31] <DexterF> syntax error?
[07:31] <DexterF> thats weird
[07:31] <Sesshy> "newline expected", yeah
[07:31] <Sesshy> err
[07:31] <Sesshy> unexpected, rather
[07:32] <coreymon77> Sesshy: oh, thats a problem with the file
[07:32] <Sesshy> should I try downloading it again?
[07:32] <coreymon77> yup
[07:32] <DexterF> download unfinished?
[07:32] <coreymon77> delete the frst on
[07:32] <coreymon77> delete the fiel first
[07:32] <Sesshy> how do I delete it?
[07:32] <coreymon77> Sesshy: then redownload
[07:32] <coreymon77> open up konqueror
[07:32] <BluesKaj> i think DexterF is right the *run file is like a binary ..requires ./
[07:32] <coreymon77> Sesshy: go to your home directory
[07:32] <coreymon77> and delete it
[07:33] <Sesshy> okay
[07:33] <coreymon77> Sesshy: now redownload
[07:35] <Sesshy> hm, still having the same issues
[07:35] <Sesshy> and the file's the exact same size and all
[07:35] <coreymon77> okay
[07:35] <coreymon77> Sesshy: now copy this line and paste in into the terminal
[07:35] <coreymon77> sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:35] <coreymon77> copy and paste
[07:35] <Sesshy> oh, no wonder
[07:35] <Sesshy> it's saving it as an html document
[07:35] <Sesshy> O_o
[07:36] <Sesshy> I'll try accessing the file directly from a web broswer and downloading it that way
[07:36] <coreymon77> Sesshy: no
[07:36] <coreymon77> no
[07:36] <coreymon77> no
[07:36] <coreymon77> use this command
[07:36] <coreymon77> wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:36] <coreymon77> use that command to get it
[07:36] <Sesshy> yes, that command seems to create an html document
[07:37] <Sesshy> that's what it shows up as in konqueror
[07:37] <root__> hello
[07:37] <coreymon77> in terminal!
[07:37] <coreymon77> thats a commandlien script!
[07:37] <Sesshy> yes, when I type that in terminal, it downloads that file
[07:37] <coreymon77> good
[07:37] <Silent_G> can someone help me please? cause im new to kubuntu
[07:37] <Sesshy> and when I browse to that file with konqueror, it's only 26kb
[07:37] <Sesshy> and is an HTML file, konqueror says
[07:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: dont browse the file
[07:38] <Sesshy> so it doesn't appear to be downloading the right file
[07:38] <coreymon77> goddammit
[07:38] <Sesshy> well, in either case, I can't execute the file properly in console with any of the given commands
[07:38] <Sesshy> it either cannot open the file or gives me that syntax erorr
[07:38] <Sesshy> error*
[07:38] <Silent_G> the default boot that kubuntu installation create in grub doesnt boot well a bunch of colours come up and it crashed, iv booted from the Rescue and i edited settings, will it work if i configure a custome kernel and add it in grub ?
[07:39] <coreymon77> guys
[07:39] <coreymon77> is there any type of remote assistance thing in kubuntu
[07:39] <coreymon77> is there any way that i can connect to and take control of sesshys computer in order to help
[07:39] <llutz> coreymon77: ssh
[07:39] <coreymon77> llutz: walk the both of us through the process
[07:40] <llutz> Sesshy: chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:40] <coreymon77> llutz: because we arent getting anywhere here
[07:40] <llutz> Sesshy: sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:40] <coreymon77> llutz: weve tried this
[07:40] <coreymon77> llutz: how do we do this ssh thing?
[07:41] <Silent_G> will somebody answer my question please?
[07:41] <llutz> coreymon77: Sesshy needs ssh-server installed and running
[07:41] <llutz> Silent_G: do you pay for it?
[07:41] <coreymon77> what about the krdc or kfrb programs?
[07:41] <Silent_G> llutz: for what?
[07:41] <llutz> coreymon77: never used those
[07:42] <llutz> Silent_G: an answer
[07:42] <Sesshy> okay, there, I downloaded the pkg2.run file from the web browser, and it correctly downloaded as an 11 meg file, and is recognized as a shell script
[07:42] <Sesshy> which is what it's supposed to be
[07:42] <Sesshy> for whatever reason, wget didn't download it right
[07:42] <Silent_G> no
[07:42] <Sesshy> but anyhow
[07:42] <Silent_G> but i tought this was kubuntu's help channel :S
[07:43] <coreymon77> !attitude | Silent_G
[07:43] <ubotu> Silent_G: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:43] <javier_> In case any of you is interested, this is how I have shared my printer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[07:43] <javier_> It's easy and works great
[07:43] <coreymon77> Sesshy: im going to pm you
[07:43] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okay?
[07:43] <Sesshy> okay o.o
[07:44] <Tm_T> Silent_G: perhaps noone currently active don't know about your problem
[07:44] <Silent_G> ok my bad
[07:44] <Tm_T> Silent_G: patience ;)
[07:44] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you can talk to me in the pm
[07:44] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, try to reinstall grub in the command line  ' sudo grub '
[07:45] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, then 'find /boot/grub/stage1'
[07:45] <Silent_G> BluesKaj: what i was gonna do is, since the kenrel kubuntu created crashes, download the kernel, compile it myself, and re-edit grub config file again, and do grub-install. will it work like that?
[07:46] <BluesKaj> dunno Silent_G seems rather labour intensive if you're just trying to reinstall grub :)
[07:46] <deminemi> has anyone here worked with Comedi ?
[07:47] <Silent_G> what do you mean BluesKaj
[07:48] <BluesKaj> a lotta work just to get grub working
[07:48] <Silent_G> i dont want to get grub working
[07:48] <Silent_G> what i want is to use my own custom kernel not the one kubuntu created
[07:48] <llutz> Silent_G: if you just want to add an own kernel to grub, you just need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:48] <Silent_G> ah ok
[07:48] <Silent_G> thankz llutz
[07:48] <BluesKaj> ok sorry ..i thought you needed to fix grub
[07:49] <Silent_G> no i need to install my own kernel BluesKaj cause the default one doesnt load a screen with a bunch of colours comes up
[07:49] <Silent_G> even when i tried to install kubuntu that screen came up , i hade to install in textmode
[07:50] <deminemi> Silent_G: was the resolution bad or was it just totally unreadable colors?
[07:50] <Silent_G> totally unreadable colours
[07:51] <coreymon77> okay
[07:51] <coreymon77> guys
[07:51] <coreymon77> crdlb: major problem
[07:51] <BluesKaj> ok, Silent_G ...i had a prob that i was able to fix in the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it worked ...just had to comment hidden menu ...for some reason it was hiding the grub menu
[07:52] <BluesKaj> so editing the grub menu does work
[07:52] <erichj> if i edit  the grub menu.lst can i remove the grub timer so it just autoloads the default kernel?
[07:52] <coreymon77> crdlb: sesshys computer froze and had to restart
[07:52] <coreymon77> crdlb: so we need to rollback the drivers
[07:52] <crdlb> !xconfig
[07:52] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[07:52] <coreymon77> crdlb: cause he cant load kde
[07:52] <crdlb> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:53] <crdlb> just run that
[07:53] <crdlb> choose the "nv" driver
[07:53] <BluesKaj> i think so ..you can change the default time out as well
[07:53] <Silent_G> BluesKaj: also, my chipset (Via Chrome9 K8m890) isnt supported by default so i installed kernel sources and other things from via's website, will i have to re-install the drivers and things if i create another kernel?
[07:54] <BluesKaj> dunno Silent_G ... coreymon77 ?
[07:55] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: what?
[07:55] <root__> what to write to efficient get a full update to newest kubuntu that works with radeon 800XL Videocards ?
[07:56] <root__> this version won't boot - I had to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then startx
[07:58] <rowenthedark> Hello I am still wondering how i can get beryl to autostart with KDE when it loads?
[07:59] <llutz> rowenthedark: ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:59] <BluesKaj> coreymon77, Silent_G 's last question
[08:00] <coreymon77> Silent_G: maybe, maybe not
[08:00] <coreymon77> Silent_G: not sure
[08:00] <rowenthedark> llutz: Thank you.
[08:00] <soulrider> !autostart
[08:00] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[08:04] <root__> I need help ... My Kubuntu freeze when boot
[08:06] <Sesshy> root__: ah, yeah, I think you have the same problem I was having
[08:06] <gellioth> #espaciolinux-es
[08:07] <Sesshy> first try booting into rescue mode by holding esc during the GRUB loading process
[08:07] <gellioth> kubuntu-es
[08:07] <root__> Sesshy: yes .,... I have a saphire radeon 800XL videocard ,..... And it seems to be a very bad card
[08:07] <gellioth> #kubuntu-es
[08:07] <BluesKaj> !es
[08:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:08] <root__> Sesshy: I did that ... and then i wrote sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. and changed the videocard to vesa
[08:08] <root__> when I type StartX ... it seems to work .. And here I am .. But when I reboot ... Everything is still bad
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> root__: forgive this dumb question, but why the EFF are you here under a root account?
[08:11] <BluesKaj> root_ , first of all , a nick change is recommended , can you find your graphics card in  kcontrol/ monitor and appearance ?
[08:11] <Napa-> better? ;)
[08:12] <Napa-> what is Kcontrol?
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> alt+f2
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> kcontrol
[08:12] <BluesKaj> yes Napa- , much
[08:13] <BluesKaj> sorry , monitor & display
[08:13] <Napa-> in monitor and display it just says VESA
[08:13] <BluesKaj> in peripherals
[08:14] <Napa-> I'll try to change it to ATI XL .. since I have a Radeon XL800 card
[08:14] <chanfle> hello all
[08:14] <chanfle> how i can update to kubuntu 7.04, on this moment i have 6.06
[08:15] <FSHero> hello all: in Xfce, is there a way to install security updates easily? e.g. like the automatic updates in Kubuntu
[08:15] <BluesKaj> ok then try system settings/monitor and display/hardware/admin mode /configure graphics card
[08:15] <chanfle> how i can update to kubuntu 7.04, on this moment i have 6.06...???
[08:16] <Napa-> Blueskaj: It still says Vesa
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> chanfle: you're better off doing a fresh install, since upgrading will require going from 6.06 to 6.10 then 6.10 to 7.04
[08:17] <BlueDevil>  how do i recompile linux-restricted-modules?
[08:17] <chanfle> Daisuke_Ido: ok....i have 542 update, i install on this moment...maybe on these update contain the new update 7.04?
[08:17] <BluesKaj> Napa-, look for the card in the list after you click on configure
[08:18] <chanfle> how i can know waht version I use for kubuntu?
[08:18] <gellioth> #espaciolinux
[08:19] <tsdgeos> can someone ban gellioth
[08:19] <tsdgeos> 3 channels in 20 min
[08:19] <Napa-> BluesKaj: there are different Radeon cards ..ATI RADEON and with (fbdev) (fglrx) (vesa) - What's the difference?
[08:19] <gellioth> bye!
[08:19] <coreymon77> nalioth: thats your cue
[08:19] <apol> chanfle: you can know it with "uname -a"
[08:19] <BluesKaj> gellioth, in the sever text window : /join #espaciolinux
[08:19] <apol> depending on the kernel version
[08:20] <BluesKaj> Napa-, i would try the fglrx for now
[08:20] <coreymon77> can anyone help me and Sesshy make an ssh (or vnc) server so that i can connect to and control his conputer
[08:21] <chanfle> apol: on 10x
[08:21] <chanfle> ok 10x
[08:21] <coreymon77> oaky
[08:21] <coreymon77> do this
[08:21] <coreymon77> whoops, wrong window
[08:22] <chanfle> i have a problem with amsn
[08:22] <DexterF> coreymon77: ahem.
[08:23] <coreymon77> let me just try something again
[08:23] <DexterF> coreymon77: where I come from talking someone into giving vnc or ssh access is considered dread evil
[08:23] <Napa-> Ok .. Now I've changed it
[08:23] <DexterF> even if someone requests it one shouldn't do it.
[08:23] <coreymon77> DexterF: ???
[08:23] <BluesKaj> Napa-, you may have to relogin
[08:23] <chanfle> when i want to open the amsn, the cursor only stay think but not open nothing.....why?
[08:23] <coreymon77> DexterF: why, im just trying to help him out
[08:24] <Karti> Hi all.....can anyone recommend a MS Project open source alternative? All help appreciated
[08:24] <BluesKaj> Karti, go ask in #windows :)
[08:25] <DexterF> coreymon77: help is always much appreciated but this lures newbies into thinking this is a good way of help. for one, they won't figure stuff by themselves, next this means you can drop rootkits or sumsuch there. unless you two are close friends or otherwise trust each other, that machine is to be seen as compromised.
[08:25] <Karti> BluesKaj: Many thanks
[08:27] <chanfle> somebody help me with amsn...please...!!
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: OpenOffice has a presentation tool.
[08:27] <DexterF> chanfle: try setting up the account in kopete
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: Sorry, brainfart.  You want Project, not PowerPoint.
[08:28] <jhutchins_lt> !equivalents | karti
[08:28] <ubotu> karti: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[08:28] <chanfle> DexterF: hhmmmm i don't like me the kopete...jajaja
[08:28] <BluesKaj> chanfle, try kopete, it works better tha amsn in linux
[08:29] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: many thanks
[08:29] <chanfle> BluesKaj: ok ok but how i can reinstall amsn?
[08:30] <BluesKaj> it's there hust look for it chanfle
[08:30] <BluesKaj> just
[08:30] <chanfle> ????
[08:30] <coreymon77> DexterF: ive tryed having him do thigns on his oqw
[08:30] <coreymon77> DexterF: ive been trying for hoyurs, we jsut cant get it wokring
[08:31] <coreymon77> DexterF: and also, i wouldnt do that
[08:31] <DexterF> what are you trying to get working?
[08:31] <DexterF> coreymon77: that's what you say. words are just 0 and 1. no offense.
[08:31] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: Only problem is first link is a russioan 404 page!
[08:32] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: It opened for me, in english.
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> Hey anyone
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> is it normal for Mozilla to just close unexpecatly?
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> hello
[08:32] <DexterF> yeah, it sucks :D
[08:33] <DexterF> scnr. no, of course not
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: you mean firefox?
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> no, i use Mozilla
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> Firefox does the same thing
[08:33] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: You can also try http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/
[08:33] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: particular site?
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> any site
[08:34] <evsophomore2009> Myspace.com, Youtube.com, Yahoo.com
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: well...I don't know about mozilla. But yeah, Firefoxdoes it sometimes, really stinks for when you are working on wordpress
[08:34] <evsophomore2009> it will somtimes work, and someitmes just close
[08:34] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: It refers to http://mrproject.codefactory.se/ and http://outreach.sourceforge.net
[08:34] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: How strange...its english now...just looking ...will also try the other link many thanks
[08:35] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: checked other browsers? konq, opera? perhaps a plugin issue
[08:35] <DexterF> fubared java or so
[08:35] <evsophomore2009> Nosrednaekim: any suggestions on a new browser that works other then Mozilla, konqueror, firefox
[08:35] <mattsqz> that is most likely
[08:35] <mattsqz> opera is good
[08:35] <DexterF> Sesshy: around?
[08:35] <evsophomore2009> Mattsqz: how do i get opera?
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: safari? ;)
[08:36] <evsophomore2009> nosrednaekim: isnt that what Apple uses?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> safari in windows is booorrrrinngg
[08:36] <DexterF> *windows* is boring :)
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: yeah, although a beta was released for windows
[08:36] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: well im not using windows
[08:36] <BluesKaj> just a comment
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> yeah I know... it is.
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> i know
[08:37] <DexterF> well, on second thought, it isn't.. it's annoying
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> besides, it looks terrible on vista, so out of style
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> so where can i download safari?
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: you can't for linux.
[08:37] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: there's no safari for linux. besides, that would be dumb since konq uses the same rendering engine :) check out opera.com
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> Well so much for that
[08:37] <BluesKaj> what's wrong with konq , and FF ...if you have crash probs then maybe your graphics plugins and card are the prob not the browser
[08:38] <Sesshy> DexterF: yeah, I'm still around
[08:38] <DexterF> Sesshy: read what I told about trust / system security further up?
[08:38] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: well idk it just closes ALOT
[08:38] <Sesshy> stupid nVidia 64-bit drivers don't work with my kernel
[08:38] <evsophomore2009> too much to even use it
[08:39] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: other stuff is stable? hardware issues rooted out?
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: do you have a plugins installed?
[08:39] <mattsqz> if its just the web browser it likely isnt a hardware issue
[08:39] <evsophomore2009> how do i install plugins?
[08:39] <Sesshy> DexterF: yeah, I see what you said
[08:40] <DexterF> mattsqz: hence the question. if random apps crash, RAM issue perhaps
[08:40] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: plugins for?
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> Mozilla
[08:40] <DexterF> Sesshy: good. not accusing anyone of doing anything, only pointing out this should be considered.
[08:40] <BluesKaj> mattsqz, perhaps not exactly hrdwre , but maybe faulty drivers and plugins
[08:40] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: which ones?
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> well i dont know
[08:40] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: embedded video, flash and such
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> i need a plugin that WONT close Mozilla anytime it wants
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: never mind
[08:41] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: hehehehe! flash it installed automatic here. java i needed to install over apt-get same for kaffeine.
[08:41] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: everything runs smoothly here.
[08:41] <evsophomore2009> thats nice
[08:42] <trakinas> which firefox?
[08:42] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, open FF and in the addressbar type about:plugins..take alok at the list and make sure java, flash and windows media/mplayer plugins are listed and enabled
[08:43] <Sesshy> DexterF: do you have any idea why Swiftfox might not be working? I have it all installed correctly and everything, it's just that when I try to load it through KDE, it appears on the taskbar, says it's loading for a minute or so, and then goes away
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[08:43] <DexterF> Sesshy: what's swiftfox?
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> thats it
[08:43] <Sesshy> and when I try to run it through the console, it tells me that the swiftfox-bin doesn't exist in the specified directory, even when I'm looking at the file in front of me
[08:43] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: no java and no multimidia plugins.
[08:43] <BluesKaj> !swiftfox
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <Sesshy> DexterF: it's just a build of firefox optimized for various architectures
[08:44] <DexterF> Sesshy: how did you install it?
[08:44] <BluesKaj> suppoesdly runs faster on 64bit pcs
[08:44] <DexterF> where did you get it? there seems to be no such package in kub
[08:44] <Sesshy> DexterF: dbpkg
[08:45] <DexterF> Sesshy: sure you picked the package for your architecture?
[08:45] <evsophomore2009> trakinas: no
[08:45] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, you have to get java and mplayer-moxilla plugins at least and the xine-plugin as well
[08:46] <BluesKaj> mozilla
[08:46] <DexterF> Sesshy: what does $ file /path-to/swiftfox-bin tell you?
[08:46] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: for multi-midia i recommend mplayer-plugin or kaffeine plugin. mplayer-plugin you put  embebed the player into the browser, while kaffeine will call the player (correct?). you choose.
[08:46] <trakinas> !java
[08:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:47] <trakinas> for java, read that link.
[08:47] <Sesshy> DexterF: yeah. I'm reading the forums, and apparently other people have the same issues
[08:47] <Sesshy> gonna read up a bit more
[08:47] <DexterF> Sesshy: use opera ;)
[08:49] <evsophomore2009> ugh this is too confusing!
[08:49] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: haahahhah. not that much.
[08:49] <trakinas> do you have any java installed?
[08:50] <evsophomore2009> Okay well how do i get Macromedia's Flash player on Konqueror?
[08:50] <baghyay> i want don't use the login screen in the start of kubuntu
[08:50] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: it should be alrady activated. in Konquerors options you can check in to use mozilla's plugins
[08:51] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: as i was talling you... if not, go to apt-get/adept and look for black sdk. after installing it, look for mozilla java plugin
[08:52] <baghyay> how to desactve the login screen
[08:52] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: blackdown sdk - j2re1.4
[08:54] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: where do i find it in Adept?
[08:54] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: just search it. ;]
[08:54] <trakinas> blackdown java
[08:54] <trakinas> or j2re
[08:55] <Silent_G> can somebody tell me why is this error happining ? http://rafb.net/p/Izb0Mp40.html
[08:56] <trakinas> Silent_G: missing libraries?
[08:57] <evsophomore2009> so which file do i install?
[08:57] <evsophomore2009> -src?
[08:57] <llutz> Silent_G: libncurses5-dev
[08:57] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: both, the j2re1.4 is the java run time. and the j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin is the plugin.
[08:58] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: the one named "j2re1.4"
[09:05] <jason10> hello..  i was wondering if someone would be willing to clear up for me exactly the way that package installing works..
[09:05] <jason10> im used to windows
[09:06] <jason10> and i notice with packages and faqs its never clear as to exactly where the thing should go
[09:06] <jzilla> basicly, you dont really have to tell it where to install
[09:06] <jason10> does it make any difference where stuff gets installed to?
[09:07] <jzilla> using a package manager, its all handled for you
[09:07] <jason10> true
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> jason10: where? everything goes to /usr/ but that shouldn't concern you because in linux there is a thing called a package manager
[09:07] <jason10> but today i decided to install (for example) firefox 2
[09:07] <Silent_G> will modules in kernel be automaticaly loaded on start up?
[09:07] <jason10> ff2.xx is not in the package universe thing
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> jason10: you have two choices, you can install it to /usr/bin. or you can unzip it locally.
[09:08] <jason10> well..  one of the pages i read about it said to put firefox in /opt/firefox
[09:08] <jason10> was a tar.gz file
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> jason10: hmmm maybe firefox does go there.
[09:09] <jason10> so i put it there and it worked, but then i couldnt give my kmenu access to it
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> almost everything goes to usr/bin though
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> jason10: was there an error?
[09:09] <ubuntu_> im trying to recover GRUB using the guide on the wiki. However, when i type in "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda" it just stalls forever (My linux partition is on /dev/sda2 which is mounted to /mnt/root). What to do?
[09:09] <trakinas> jason10: i did find firefox on packages...
[09:09] <jason10> firefox 2.0?
[09:10] <jason10> all i could find was 1.5
[09:10] <trakinas> jason10: yep
[09:10] <jason10> anyway i removed it from the first place and put it in /home/jason/.mozilla/firefox
[09:11] <ubuntu_> I am installing kubuntu as we speak
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> jason10: wrong place... that stores all your firefox SETTINGS
[09:11] <trakinas> z1pp3r: well... put the 2 after the sda... =P
[09:11] <ubuntu_> feeling very leet now
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> put it in /home/jason/firefox-bin
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> Set: heh
[09:11] <z1pp3r> trakinas: well, i want it installed on MBR, so it shouldnt be sda2 should it?
[09:12] <jason10> i do not have a /firefox-bin directory...
[09:12] <trakinas> z1pp3r: well... --root-directory indicates where your image is located, if im not wrong
[09:13] <gvenos> hi to everyone there
[09:13] <jason10> everything is working fine in the jason/.mozilla/firefox
[09:13] <z1pp3r> trakinas: ooh, it just finished. Just took some 15 mins or so
[09:13] <trakinas> gvenos: hi
[09:13] <jason10> all the bookmarks are right, all the plugins work..  except flash...
[09:13] <trakinas> z1pp3r: lol
[09:13] <trakinas> heeheheh
[09:13] <trakinas> good luck rebooting
[09:13] <z1pp3r> meh
[09:13] <z1pp3r> thanks
[09:14] <OutoLumo_> Hi!
[09:15] <trakinas> OutoLumo: hello
[09:15] <OutoLumo> Anyone has idea in which package is kapp.h et al? (for development in KDE)
[09:15] <trakinas> jason10: what is the problem?
[09:15] <jason10> so anyway, when im dealing manually with a tar.gz package i should install it.. where ?
[09:16] <jason10> usr/bin?
[09:16] <jason10> or home/jason/.something?
[09:16] <trakinas>  jason10: it probably already have all the path correctly setted. you only need to change it if you want to.
[09:16] <OutoLumo> depends... /usr/local/bin ?
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> jason10: /usr/share would be best.
[09:17] <trakinas> and it isnt in .something. if you want it locale, it is on  /usr/local/bin
[09:17] <_dac> Jisao, did I miss anything special Sunday?
[09:17] <jason10> i thought that when i use command line it will just extract to wherever the file currently is?
[09:18] <jason10> my /usr/local/bin/ folder exists, but it has nothing in it at all..
[09:19] <OutoLumo> jason10, it's for local installs... those the system packkage manager does not nadle.,
[09:19] <OutoLumo> handle
[09:19] <jason10> oh
[09:19] <baghyay> how to edit application start with kubuntu start
[09:20] <trakinas> baghyay: System Config. --> Advanced
[09:21] <trakinas> jason10: extract yes, install, no.
[09:21] <jason10> so if i just extract all my tar.gz packages to /usr/local/bin then the package  will..
[09:21] <jason10> do not install?
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: unless it is a binary file, it will installs in default bin folder.
[09:23] <jason10> see, im good with windows and the easy.exe, but this stuff confuses me
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: if it isnt a binary, no.
[09:23] <baghyay> oh yeah ok
[09:23] <jason10> ok
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: use binary packages.
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: source codes are only if you REALLY need it.
[09:23] <jason10> yea, no
[09:23] <jason10> i avoid the source code
[09:23] <jason10> i dl the thing thats ready to go
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: so, what are those tars you got?
[09:23] <jason10> well right now im looking at a flash_player_9.tar.gz from adobe
[09:23] <jason10> gzipped tar archive
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: dont need to.
[09:23] <jason10> no idea where to put this thing
[09:23] <trakinas> flash installed automaticaly here.
[09:23] <jason10> mine wouldnt do it
[09:25] <mattsqz> i dont have words to describe how much better apt-get is than installshield :D
[09:25] <trakinas> just go to a place where it has a flash embebed and go for it.
[09:25] <mattsqz> try youtube, it uses both flash and java
[09:25] <jason10> it acted like it tried, but then it said it failed and i had to do it manually, then it sent me to the macromedia dl page
[09:25] <jason10> or w.e.
[09:25] <trakinas> about flash, you can unzip it in anypalce. like... /home/jason10/binaries/
[09:25] <trakinas> and run the script there.
[09:25] <trakinas> just follow adobe guid. ;]
[09:25] <trakinas> read me isnt there to make file larger. xD
[09:25] <trakinas> mattsqz: javascript isnt Java.
[09:25] <trakinas> i sware flash installed okay here without needing to download adobe pack
[09:25] <jason10> "click here to dl plugin.."  "i agree" ... "downloading flash player...
[09:25] <jason10> "
[09:25] <soulrider> jason10: in linux we install stuff fromt he repositories usually
[09:26] <jason10> yea, i installed the jre thing
[09:26] <jason10> from reporitory
[09:26] <soulrider> jason10: have you heard of them ?
[09:26] <soulrider> well, flash is there too
[09:26] <soulrider> and most programs youll ever want too :P
[09:26] <llutz> jason10: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:26] <jason10> "no plugins were installed"  .. "adobe flash player failed" "manual <button>"
[09:26] <soulrider> yup, that will download+install for you
[09:27] <jason10> llutz :  is that in a console?
[09:27] <llutz> yes
[09:27] <jason10> auto install fails  = /
[09:27] <llutz> jason10: you need multiverse-repo enabled
[09:28] <jason10> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:28] <jason10>   file libexif12 libgd2-noxpm libmagic1 libpng12-0 libpng12-dev
[09:28] <jason10>   xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl
[09:28] <jason10> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[09:28] <jason10> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[09:28] <jason10> Writing extended state information... Done
[09:28] <jason10> that means nothing happened?
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[09:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <trakinas> jason10: strange. it installed here. well.. just go for it like the folks told you.
[09:29] <trakinas> open adept. look for "flash"
[09:29] <DexterF> why are my nfs mounts neither in mtab not in mount
[09:29] <DexterF> +?
[09:31] <jason10> flashplugin-nonfree says "installed"
[09:31] <jason10> is that the one i want?
[09:32] <jason10> that would make sence with the mess above..
[09:32] <jason10> could it be that i have ffox in the wrong place or something?
[09:32] <jzilla> did you install it with a package manager?
[09:33] <Sesshy> DexterF: do you know of any way to get flash installed on 64-bit kubuntu?
[09:33] <jzilla> Sesshy: gl!
[09:33] <jason10> (no love from youtube by the way)
[09:33] <jason10> jzilla: <shrug>  i dont remember ever installing it
[09:33] <Zubin-kubuntu> does anyone know if KDE4 will be in Gutsy Gibson?
[09:33] <trakinas> jason10: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all&keywords=firefox&sourceid=mozilla-search
[09:34] <jason10> but i know it worked before i upgraded to ffox 2
[09:34] <trakinas> firefox 2.0 on the package tree...
[09:35] <DexterF> Sesshy: sorry, never did 64bit
[09:35] <Sesshy> do you think it's easier just to run 32-bit kubuntu on my 64-bit hardware?
[09:36] <jzilla> its what i do
[09:36] <Sesshy> just so you don't have to deal with all the crap?
[09:36] <jzilla> its alot less of a headache
[09:36] <Sesshy> ah, yeah
[09:36] <Sesshy> it's starting to seem like it, geez x_x
[09:36] <jason10> trakinas: i see that.  all of them say feisty.  i believe im using 6.4 or 6.10   ...
[09:37] <jason10> edgy or breezy or whichever
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: ahhhhhh! my mistake
[09:37] <jason10> is that bad for me?
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: dont know. :/ sorry
[09:37] <jzilla> its better to be running 7.04 probably
[09:37] <jason10> lol
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: but i dont think so
[09:37] <jason10> im not even sure what im running, how do i check?
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: uname -a
[09:37] <Zubin-kubuntu> Flash and Java for 64bit linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90919
[09:38] <jason10> 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 10 09:45:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:38] <Zubin-kubuntu> its an old one, but i used it back then and it worked fine
[09:38] <Zubin-kubuntu> another one for Konqueror and flash: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188198