[19:18] <crazy6> this is runing at 1920xsomething
[19:20] <BluesKaj> crazy6, what available resolutions does the system settings/monitor&display show ?
[19:23] <crazy6> 1920x1200, 1280x800, 1280x768, and lower
[19:24] <perrako> Is there a way to just test KDE4? Like, put it on a separate session?
[19:25] <Captain_Haddock> perrako: I think there's a Live CD for the beta.
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> perrako: yes, thats how it works... or you could get the suse liveCD
[19:25] <perrako> k, thanks :)
[19:25] <perrako> I just wanted to try kde 4 beta without replacing my current kde
[19:25] <e-m00> woooooooot
[19:25]  * e-m00 just got wifi working
[19:26] <e-m00> WITH wpa
[19:26] <e-m00> :D
[19:26] <BluesKaj> crazy6, your aspect ratio is obviously 16x9...choose one that you like
[19:26] <MagicCow> Punk.
[19:26] <MagicCow> Madwifi?
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> w00t!
[19:26] <e-m00> not with madwifi
[19:26] <e-m00> just using knetworkmanager
[19:26] <MagicCow> Ah.
[19:26] <e-m00> and the windows driver
[19:26] <e-m00> for the wireless card
[19:26] <MagicCow> Hmm...
[19:27] <e-m00> quite easy actually
[19:27] <nosrednaekim> e-m00: yeah. I like ndiswrapper... hack that it is
[19:27] <MagicCow> Maybe I should try that.
[19:27] <MagicCow> Oh.
[19:27] <rgreening> e-m00: do you see a list of AP's or did you have to click jion other netwoek/connection
[19:27] <matahari> hi
[19:27] <SudoKing> e-m00..Windows driver on Kubuntu?
[19:28] <e-m00> yes sudoking. just the .sys file
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> hi matahari
[19:28] <SudoKing> uh-huh
[19:29]  * nosrednaekim had to use the .inf file not the .sys file
[19:29] <matahari> i am having sound troubles in gutsy on my laoptop running a Conexant CX20549 chip. Sound worked for a week now - and suddenly it stopped. i compiled a new alsa-driver, but the issue is still the same - no sound...
[19:29] <matahari> does anyone have an idea what i could check?
[19:29] <e-m00> yeah ndiswrapper uses the inf
[19:29] <Captain_Haddock> JohnFlux: 2 reports added. If you have time, can I run a few other issues by you right here before creating bug reports?
[19:29] <nosrednaekim> matahari: any recent kernel updates?
[19:29] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i don't know...
[19:29] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i did the update that were provided automatically
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> matahari: did you do that recently?
[19:30] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i didn't check them (i know - stupid)
[19:30] <matahari> nosrednaekim: yes
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> no... thats ok :)
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> matahari: when you reboot, you should see a list of kernels in the grub menu
[19:30] <matahari> yes
[19:31] <matahari> nosrednaekim: but there is only the one kernel i have plus the recovery mode
[19:32] <crazy6> when I start up, all the pdf's I had open w/ kpdf no longer work, and each produce an error message; I assume this is because /tmp or wherever they are put is cleared out... is there a way to prevent that?
[19:33] <nosrednaekim> matahari: oh... ok
[19:35] <matahari> nosrednaekim: can i install a new kernel?
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> don't think that is the problem..
[19:35] <dave> how do i get the auto spell checking started in konversation?
[19:35] <Jucato> dave: right-click on the text input area
[19:35] <matahari> nosrednaekim: what else could it be?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> crazy6, that's cuz you edited the xorg file while you had pdf's open , close them andjust relogin
[19:35] <dave> jucato, i did but the spell checking above it is greyed out
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> matahari: is this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[19:35] <poison--> !partition
[19:35] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[19:36] <poison--> !DiskMounter
[19:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:36] <Captain_Haddock> dave: you have to type something first.
[19:36] <BluesKaj> changing resolution edits the xorg file
[19:36] <Q-collective> is QtParted being maintained again?
[19:36] <matahari> nosrednaekim: frsh install
[19:36] <crazy6> BluesKaj: oh, no, this has been happening for a long time, since 7.04
[19:36] <dave> captain haddock, ahh i see thanks
[19:36] <matahari> nosrednaekim: the strange thing is, that it worked until the day before yesterday
[19:37] <crazy6> BluesKaj: if I hav ea bunch of PDF's open from firefox from the web; come to think of it, I haven't checked ot see if it does it if I have them all open in Konq...
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> matahari: did you do anything special that day? any updates?
[19:37] <matahari> hmm
[19:37] <BluesKaj> crazy6, that's odd , which app opens the pdfs , konq or adobe ?
[19:37] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i don't remember
[19:37] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i installed some software - but i don#t remember which one...
[19:38] <vzduch> Q-collective: last time I tried to install Ark Linux it was still 0.4.5-svn
[19:38] <crazy6> BluesKaj: mozilla spawns a new window of kpdf for each PDF
[19:38] <matahari> nosrednaekim: is there a logfile where i can see such things?
[19:38] <crazy6> BluesKaj: and when I restart, it gives me "can't find tmp://whatever.pdf"  Ithink (or something close to that)
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> matahari: probably...IDK whats its called. probably in /var/log though
[19:39] <Q-collective> vzduch: yeah, it has been there for the last few years
[19:40] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i remember that day now
[19:40] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i wanted to get qemu running
[19:40] <matahari> and i used qemu launcher
[19:40] <nosrednaekim> having to dive into text files can make anyone remember..lol
[19:40] <matahari> and there was an option "emulate sound card"
[19:40] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i checked that option - and i think after that there was no sound anymore
[19:40] <BluesKaj> yeah crazy6 , I haven't seen that since use konq as my default browser ..pdf's don't pose any probs using konq in my experience
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> matahari: ahhhhhh :)\
[19:41] <matahari> nosrednaekim: ?
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> matahari: go into system settings-> sound and multimedia
[19:42] <webvictim> !compiz
[19:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:42] <matahari> nosrednaekim: ok
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> matahari: hardware->soundsystem->advanced Linux sound architecture
[19:42] <frustrated> Hi! When I select manual configuration for my wireless card, I'm unable to make Knetworkmanager do a site survey again. Tips?
[19:42] <matahari> nosrednaekim: this is already selected
[19:43] <frustrated> 7.10
[19:43] <DaSkreech> Hi BluesKaj
[19:43] <nosrednaekim> matahari: ok....change something small and then change it back, then hit apply
[19:44] <BluesKaj> hi DaSkreech , what's up today ?
[19:44] <slow-motion> re
[19:44] <DaSkreech> not the clouds
[19:44] <DaSkreech>  they are falling like noone's business
[19:44] <BluesKaj> :)
[19:44] <frustrated> Whenever I do manual configuration of my wireless interface, I'm forever unable to do a site survey and connect to a wireless network. I'm having a Centrino laptop with IPW 3945. Can someone please give me a tip on how to fix this, because previously only option has been reinstallation
[19:44] <dave>  compiz takes a serious graphics card,huh?
[19:44] <matahari> nosrednaekim: no change :-( still can't hear music...
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> matahari: but the sound system restarted fine?
[19:45] <ardchoille> I have an svn url for some new icons, how do I use this url? Put it in konqueror?
[19:45] <matahari> nosrednaekim: yes seems so
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> frustrated: remove the lines from your /etc/network/interfaces
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> crimsun_: hey... you around?
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> matahari: go over to #alsa..
[19:46] <matahari> nosrednaekim: ok
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> tell them what qemu did
[19:46] <dave> what kind of card is required to run compiz?
[19:47] <jpatrick> !compiz | dave
[19:47] <ubotu> dave: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> dave: anything from the past 3 years will do
[19:49] <noam_> so basically, if i install the new proprietary ATI drivers, i need not worry, because i can always revert to the repository drivers by just removing fglrx from the restricted_modules file. right?
[19:49] <dave> jpatrick, thanks but that doesn't give any requirements as far as i can  see?
[19:50] <dave> nosrednaekim, ok thanks
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> noam_: and uninstalling the proprietary driver from /usr/share/ati
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> dave:  what do you have>
[19:52] <noam_> what do you mean by uninstalling? the rm -rf uninstallation method?
[19:52] <noam_> i'll have packages and all that, that's what the guides do :)
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> noam_: oh.... well with the 8.42 drivers,packages don't seem to work very well
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> at least not from what I have seen
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> and heard
[19:53] <noam_> argh. what's wrong with the packages?
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> noam_: not sure... but the other method is painless and esily reversible as well, just run "sudo ./usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[19:55] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, the 8.42 is prolly ok for higher end ati's , onboards don't work well despite what amd recs
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: :D
[19:55] <noam_> cool! i thought running sh ati-driver-foobar.sh stepped on the package system and broke it
[19:56] <vzduch> !upgrade > vzduch
[19:57] <BluesKaj> noam_, nosrednaekim , i just reverted to the restricted driver in system settings after the 8.42 driver failed on my setup
[19:58] <sammy> hey whoa! I opened an open office document and exported it to pdf, the same open office document format of my resume I've exported many times, and now that I upgraded to gutsy, the export no longer fits on one page!
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> noam_: oh yeah.... you have to disable the ubuntu-included fglrx kernel driver though.
[19:58] <noam_> what if i have 8.42 installed in /usr/share/ati and i want to upgrade to 8.43 when it is out? will i have to remove the current driver and install the new one?
[19:58] <slvmchn> hello, i have ubuntu 7.10 installed, how to i use xfce instead of gnome? i don't necessarily want to install the whole kubuntu package... i did it before on an earlier version of ubuntu where when i logged in i could change from gnome to xfce to blackbox to whatever i wanted, basically how do i set that up again
[19:58] <sammy> it's almost as if some sort of style changes have been made, but I haven't edited the file at all, and in fact tried a few other versions with the same file with similar results, they appear different now
[19:58] <slvmchn> i just liked how i had a terminal prompt in the menu bar
[19:58] <noam_> nosrednaekim, in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[19:58] <noam_> ?
[19:59] <slvmchn> panel bar i mean
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> cprrect
[19:59] <noam_> cool
[19:59] <sammy> slvmchn: there has to be 419 different wikis and forum posts about how to use xfce/kde/gnome with ubuntu and how to switch between the few
[19:59] <BluesKaj> noam_, yes , amd recommends uninstalling the older driver first
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> noam_: yeah.. i'd uninstall the 8.42 first
[19:59] <noam_> ok then. thanks
[19:59] <noam_> i hope this works :)
[19:59] <vzduch> sammy: did you count them? ;)
[20:00] <sammy> vzduch: I did! I can't manage a simple odt to pdf export, but I'm a savant when it comes to reading documentation and forum posts other people haven't searched for yet :)
[20:00] <slvmchn> sammy: how do i install kubuntu on top of ubuntu 7.10
[20:00] <slvmchn> i'll just do that, i don't mind
[20:01] <sammy> slvmchn: again, there's documentation aplenty if you search for it on that exact topic. take your pick, forum post or ubuntu wiki, I'll even do the google search *for you* and private message you the url to the google search results :)
[20:01] <slvmchn> if you don't know off the top of your head it's fine, i just thought i'd ask
[20:01] <sammy> it has to do with installing and uninstalling the different desktop meta-packages
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> !kubuntu
[20:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[20:02] <sammy> and possibly editing your gdm/kdm/xdm configuration files to allow for loading different desktop environments from the gui login screen, if you keep more than one installed
[20:03] <BluesKaj> sammy, just install kubuntu-desktop
[20:03] <vzduch> sammy: you're speaking to the walls right now..
[20:03] <BluesKaj> that's all he needed
[20:04] <sammy> vzduch: isn't that what irc is all about? BluesKaj: sorry, I get uppity when people don't bother to look for documentation first.
[20:04] <matahari> i have to reboot
[20:04] <BluesKaj> don't , if ppl knew how to search out info , they would ask in here :)
[20:05] <BluesKaj> woudn't need to
[20:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> in short...
[20:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> !coc
[20:05] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[20:05] <BluesKaj> err getting tired ...been a long day...think I'll take a nap
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> sammy: yeah, don't tell people to RTFM when they come in here and ask a question you consider "easy"
[20:07] <sammy> what!? c'mon people, I might have been rude, but the fact is that there IS documentation on exactly what he was looking for, documentation that ANY search engine in existance would find. and that's one of the reasons the documentation is there, so the same questions don't have to be answered over and over and over and over again.
[20:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> this channel gets dozens of people a day who know nothing about linux whatsoever.  we're here to ease the transition and help with issues, not belittle them and use the classic "linux users are jerks" RTFM tactic.
[20:07] <mike-kubuntu> my motherboard says 2 ddr 400 slots, would dd42 be ok in it? i know ddr2 isn't compatable with ddr3
[20:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> ddr2 is also not compatible with ddr
[20:07] <noam_> nosrednaekim, what do i do on kernel update? reinstall the driver?
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> mike-kubuntu: no... that won't work
[20:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> ddr = 184 pin, ddr2 = 240 pin
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> noam_: yup
[20:08] <noam_> oh
[20:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> it physically won't work :)
[20:08] <sammy> linux users aren't jerks, we just expect people to use their computer, not ask other people to use it for them. if you want to make substantitve changes to your desktop environment, you shoudl at least be able to look up documentation on such a thing and not expect the community to walk you through it.
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> noam_: from what I remember, you can even run that script from the CLI if need be
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> sammy: why shouldn't we walk them through it?
[20:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> sammy: you're putting across the image that we are jerks.  we HELP people, not tell them to look somewhere else.
[20:08] <sammy> I've been using linux and sitting in such channels for over a decade, and there's a place for questions that don't have clear answers, but when they do, and they've already been written out and commented on and vetted by the community, thats where we should point people.
[20:09] <noam_> on kernel update, the system will work fine, except for 3d rendering? or will X not load at all until i reinstall the driver?
[20:09] <webvictim> has anyone got experience with getting an nvidia mediashield RAID array to work under kubuntu?
[20:09] <darth_chatri> hi, has anyone encountered a keyboard freeze on kubuntu?
[20:09] <webvictim> i understand you have to use dmraid
[20:09] <webvictim> but i can't seem to find any decent advice on it
[20:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> sammy: that's not the ubuntu way.  no one's stopping you from using that method anywhere else, but that is not the way things are done around here...
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> noam_: I *THINK* x will load without 3d
[20:10] <mike-kubuntu> nosrednaekim, is it a significant drop in performance between ddr and ddr2/3?
[20:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: in gutsy i believe it will, because of bulletproof x
[20:10] <matahari> i'm back
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: KDM can't so bulletproof x
[20:10] <vzduch> matahari: good choice :P
[20:10] <darth_chatri> kubuntu gutsy to be more precise
[20:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> mike-kubuntu: fairly significant.  but if you want to go to ddr2, you're looking at a new motherboard at least
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> matahari: any luck?
[20:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: ah...
[20:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> another area where kubuntu is the forgotten stepchild :\
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> darth_chatri: does the mouse work?
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: indeed...
[20:11] <matahari> nosrednaekim: no luck
[20:11] <darth_chatri> nosrednaekim: yes, everything else works
[20:11] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i'm really depressed now - the guys in #alsa don't respond
[20:11] <mike-kubuntu> Daisuke_Laptop: figured, i'll wait till its time for a new processor
[20:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i actually have encountered that problem one time resuming from suspend on this 1420...  i had to reboot to get the keyboard back
[20:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> mike-kubuntu: do you tend toward amd or intel?
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> matahari: hmmmm
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> matahari: I'm not too good with sound at all
[20:12] <BluesKaj> sammy , it's atitude like yours that used to be quite prevalent a few yrs ago, ( I got linux chops and you don't ,you dummy ...read the man pages) ...well we're here to help those who are confused about what we mean by "documentation and the like " If you need to be on your high horse , then this isn't the room for you.
[20:12] <matahari> nosrednaekim: too bad...
[20:12] <darth_chatri> it seems to happen randomly
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> matahari: try posting on the ubuntu forums
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> darth_chatri: my dad had the same problem on his laptop... is it a laptop?
[20:13] <matahari> nosrednaekim: the prob is: tomorrow at 9am i have a teleconference and need the sound there.... i could go crazy...
[20:13] <darth_chatri> nosrednaekim: yes
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> darth_chatri: disable your touchpad..
[20:13] <BluesKaj> BBL ...naptime
[20:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> intel's 775 is a general standard with motherboards encompassing ddr and ddr2.  amd's a little more picky, i think am2 is the only processor line that will do ddr2
[20:14] <darth_chatri> nosrednaekim: how?
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> darth_chatri: it had something to do with X/KDE and the touchpad being accidentally touched while typing
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: or S1 for mobile..
[20:15] <darth_chatri> nosrednaekim: eh? doesnt quite make sense. anyway, i dont have a button to disable the touchpad
[20:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: i haven't kept up with amd recently :)
[20:15]  * nosrednaekim is a AMD fanboi in his spare time
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> darth_chatri: such was his dillema as well
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> matahari: load up a liveCD for the teleconference ;)
[20:16] <darth_chatri> nosrednaekim: so how did he solve the problem?
[20:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: given the performance from the core 2 duo in the laptop, i think i'm going to go to an intel system next time i upgrade my desktop (if i do)
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> darth_chatri: to tell you the truth...IDK.
[20:17] <darth_chatri> nosrednaekim: are you sure its a kde problem? it happens to me while using a different manager as well
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: Intel chips are more expensive... and I find the bottle neck on this Turion X2 laptop is not the CPU,. but the graphics and HD/
[20:18] <darth_chatri> i have some kde apps running, but the services and the wm are not
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> darth_chatri: no,i'm not certain, it very well could be an X problem
[20:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> aaaaand, i so want to grab one of those $199 walmart linux pcs (mini-itx, via c7 1.5ghz processor, 512mb ram, 80gb hdd)...  strip the atx case and stick the system in a nice small mini-itx case :D
[20:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> use it as a streaming machine
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: yeah... we have a Via system with about those specs... its runs nicely...22 watts!
[20:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> keep it connected to the tv :D
[20:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: have you seen those yet?
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: get a good graphics card though... via is crap
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. I did
[20:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> all i really need is vga output
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok
[20:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> if it can handle 1024x768 i'm fine
[20:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> certainly not a gaming machine, and the new TV can't handle anything above that resolution (which is weird, the native res is 1366x768)
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> it can (without 3d accel) we have it attached to a 1280x1024 monitor.
[20:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> the most taxing thing i would use it for is have it double as a classic gaming machine
[20:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> nes/snes/genesis emulation
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> shouldn't have a problem with that
[20:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm gonna take this to -offtopic :)
[20:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> before someone gripes :D
[20:26] <franki> hay no one knows how to upgrade to 7.10 without turning off
[20:26] <mcquaid> i only recently upgraded to gutsy.  I just noticed kfind is no longer in my kmenu
[20:26] <mcquaid> i checked and it's still installed, and obviously I can easily readd it, just curious if others encountered this
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> franki: not entirely possible...(kernel requires a reboot)
[20:27] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[20:27] <mcquaid> does everyone else have kfind in their menu in gutsy?
[20:27] <perrako> How do you load new compiz themes into kde?
[20:28] <franki> yea i know kernal requiers reboot but never mind i started the upgrade
[20:28] <tekstacy> I have 4 gb ram, but Kinfo says I have 3.1gb, anyone know why this would be?
[20:29] <qolo> I friggin hate Konsole, is there a better shell ?
[20:29] <tekstacy> cmd.exe
[20:30] <qolo> thx
[20:30] <tekstacy> ok, ok, sorry    :)
[20:30] <matahari> lol
[20:30] <mcquaid> tekstacy, I'm not sure but I read that 32 bit os's only have support for 4 gigs.  But from what I understand that xp doesn't report the 4 gigs correctly and you end up with something like you're saying.  And I heard that this happens in linux as well, which I'm surprised of
[20:30] <mcquaid> f
[20:30] <qolo> 4 gigs is directly addressable, you can still have more it just takes a little longer to access
[20:31] <qolo> ( i think )
[20:31] <mcquaid> takes a little longer to access... that just doesn't sound correct
[20:31] <tekstacy> hmm, cool, thanks.
[20:31] <qolo> 32^2 = 4gigs
[20:32] <mcquaid> so can anyone just quickly tell me if kfind is still in their kmenu after upgrading to gutsy?
[20:32] <tekstacy> that's an awsome ammount for a laptop
[20:32] <NDPTAL85> Anyone have any ideas on why Thunderbird on 7.10 won't access my IMAP accounts?
[20:32] <tekstacy> mcquaid, I don't see it
[20:33] <mcquaid> thx, wonder why there is no entry for it now
[20:33] <mcquaid> i was curious if they were replacing kfind or something
[20:33] <tekteen> NDPTAL85: I will try it
[20:33] <NDPTAL85> It will access one, but I have 4 others that it won't.
[20:34] <rakan> Hello
[20:34] <tekstacy> mcquaid, open Adept and see if it is installed
[20:34] <tekstacy> hello rakan
[20:35] <rakan> I copied and burned debian packages downloaded by adept from archives folder to a CD
[20:35] <mcquaid> yep it's installed, just launched kfind from the run cmd. but I think it's a glaring omission to forget an entry for the find util
[20:35] <tekteen> NDPTAL85: what are the settings
[20:35] <rakan> now i formated my computer and reinstalled kubuntu
[20:35] <rakan> how can i give all these packages to adept to reinstall because i dont want it to download them all again???
[20:35] <NDPTAL85> tekstacy: Settings? Regular settings for a GMail account.
[20:36] <tekteen> ok
[20:36] <tekteen> hold on
[20:36] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i noticed something strange
[20:37] <tekstacy> NDPTAL85, I think you meant that for tekteen
[20:37] <mcquaid> rakan, i never use adept but for apt-get/synaptic they go in /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:37] <NDPTAL85> tekstacy: My bad
[20:37] <matahari> nosrednaekim: days when sound worked, i looked at the ouput of /proc/asound/cards - and there were 2 cards present (one analog, one digital)
[20:37] <matahari> nosrednaekim: now i only have one card there
[20:37] <rakan> mcquaid: ok i copied the packages into the archives folder
[20:37] <tekteen> it is working for me
[20:37] <tekteen> check your settings
[20:37] <rakan> how can i instruct apt-get to install them?
[20:37] <NDPTAL85> I know the accounts work fine because they work in KMail and on both of my Macs.
[20:38] <tekteen> ok
[20:38] <matahari> nosrednaekim: is there a command to run a base-config of my system again?
[20:38] <bibou> salut
[20:38] <tekstacy> mcquaid, you could just put it in the menu yourself.
[20:39] <tekteen> rightclick on the acount then click properties
[20:39] <mcquaid> tekstacy, yes which i already did, but it's still pretty bad to miss that
[20:39] <tekteen> NDPTAL85: then click the server settings tab
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> matahari: didn't you say you recompiled alsa?
[20:39] <mcquaid> rakan, i'm not sure I exactly understand.  are you doing a fresh install?
[20:40] <NDPTAL85> tekteen: Then what?
[20:40] <tekstacy> yup, yup. someone forgot. But hey, at least wer're not stuck with vista....
[20:40] <edo_> hi all
[20:40] <tekstacy> hi edo_
[20:40] <tekteen> NDPTAL85: rightclick on the acount then click properties
[20:40] <edo_> i'm italian
[20:40] <matahari> nosrednaekim: yes, i did
[20:40] <NDPTAL85> tekteen: Yeah I'm there already
[20:40] <tekteen> NDPTAL85: then click the server settings tab
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> matahari: well, that probably messed something up..
[20:41] <edo_> goodbye
[20:41] <NDPTAL85> tekteen: Dood, I'm there. Whats next?
[20:41] <matahari> nosrednaekim: maybe i can uninstall it...
[20:41] <tekteen> check that it is connecting to pop.gmail.com and port 995
[20:41] <rakan> mcquaid: i did a clean install for kubuntu. But in the previous installation i installed alot of programs and packages using adept, to prevent downloading them again i just copied all the packages from the archives. What i am asking for is how can i give those packages to apt-get to install them all automatically with me having to go install them one by one???
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> matahari: not sure...
[20:41] <NDPTAL85> tekteen: Its IMAP. So it would be imap.gmail.com
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> matahari: try reinstalling the kernel..
[20:41] <tekteen> ok
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> matahari: is its gutsy?
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> *this
[20:42] <matahari> nosrednaekim: yes
[20:42] <tekteen> I suggest u use pop
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> matahari: oh... hmm
[20:42] <tekteen> it makes no difference
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> NDPTAL85: gmail's IMAP is buggy
[20:42] <tekstacy> back to work...   Thanks for the help guys.   bye
[20:43] <rakan> mcquaid: got it?
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> matahari: yeah... I don't know..
[20:43] <mcquaid> rakan, ok, again I never used adept but in synaptic if you select all those packages to install it will recognize they are in the archive and not download them again
[20:43] <NDPTAL85> nosrednaekim: Possibly but I'm only experiencing this issue on Thunderbird on Kubuntu. No other OS or email client.
[20:43] <mcquaid> but that still is a pain selecting them all again
[20:44] <matahari> nosrednaekim: what can i do....
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> NDPTAL85: oh... ok
[20:44] <tekteen> anyone know howto make accented characters (for spanish)
[20:44] <rakan> aha ok, will try them
[20:44] <rakan> i have to do it
[20:44] <mcquaid> so... i would do from konsole:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb while in the archive dir
[20:44] <rakan> dont got any other way :(
[20:44] <rakan> hmm
[20:45] <rakan> i will try that * :)
[20:45] <mcquaid> rakan, let me know if that works. it should
[20:45] <rakan> at least windows doesnt have such options
[20:45] <rakan> if i format windows i have to do 2 days of reinstallation :D
[20:46] <rakan> mcquaid: i will, thanks for now
[20:46] <mcquaid> k
[20:46] <tekteen> raken: u could back up windows
[20:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're better off without windows :D
[20:47] <tekteen> I agree
[20:47] <matahari> nosrednaekim: how can i reinstall the kernel?
[20:47] <tekteen> but u might need it
[20:47] <tekteen> :-(
[20:47] <naxa> hi! How can i set the resolution to 16 BPP in KDE?
[20:47] <naxa> or 8 BPP
[20:48] <DaSkreech> mcquaid: I think it may be they are using strigi now
[20:48] <rakan> mcquaid: do u think it will work with some programs needing dependencies? would it install dependencies first then install package?
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> matahari: that... I do not know... maybe install an older version of the kernel?
[20:48] <matahari> nosrednaekim: and how can i do that?
[20:49] <MaDiNfO_> does any one knows how can i enable TVout on my GFX board ?
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> matahari: just a sec
[20:49] <MaDiNfO_> to watch some movies on my TV ?
[20:49] <mcquaid> rakan, hmm, that will proabably fail on some of them, if you haven't already downloaded the dependencies
[20:49] <mcquaid> if all the dependencies are in that dir, you'll be fine
[20:49] <rakan> mcquaid: They are there :D
[20:50] <rakan> i will try now
[20:50] <mcquaid> then you should be good to go
[20:51] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i think i will reinstall gutsy....
[20:51] <rakan> mcquaid: hmm, sudo dpkg -i *.deb did not install all
[20:51] <rakan> i think it took the last installed package and reinstalled it
[20:51] <raindog> After updating today my Kmenu won't open.  Is there a fix or workaround?
[20:51] <MaDiNfO_> does any one knows how can i enable TVout on my GFX board ? _> to watch some movies on my TV ?
[20:51] <rakan> (Reading database ... 85286 files and directories currently installed.)
[20:51] <rakan> Preparing to replace bcm43xx-fwcutter 20060108-6build1 (using bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060108-6build1_i386.deb) ...
[20:51] <rakan> Unpacking replacement bcm43xx-fwcutter ...
[20:51] <rakan> Setting up bcm43xx-fwcutter (20060108-6build1) ...
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> matahari: that may be easiest... do you have alot of files to backup?
[20:52] <mcquaid> rakan, not sure I understand last installed package.  dpkg is for manually installing debs.  It will not go to the net and grab new versions or anything like apt-get.  it doesn't not reference your sources.list file.  it's just a manual deb installer
[20:52] <NickPresta> raindog, you could try this in a konsole: dcop kicker kicker restart
[20:53] <mcquaid> DaSkreech, strigi is an indexer like tracker, but what is the frontend for strigi in kde now?
[20:53] <raindog> NickPresta: Hey thanks.  That did the trick.  (I'm still getting used to KDE.) :)
[20:53] <NickPresta> raindog, no problem :)
[20:54] <mcquaid> DaSkreech, I see there is a strigi applet, but is there not a standalone search that utilizes strigi/tracker backend?
[20:54] <mcquaid> rakan, so what happened some installed?  none?
[20:55] <rakan> mcquaid: no dpkg -i *.deb only installed bcm43xx-fwcutter.deb package which is for Broadcom wireless device drivers. Stopped right after the installation of this package completed
[20:55] <mcquaid> hmmm
[20:55] <matahari> nosrednaekim: yes/no..... the amount of files is not the problem.... how can i get a list of packages i installed manually?
[20:55] <DaSkreech> mcquaid: Yes but not in KDE3 I think
[20:56] <matahari> nosrednaekim: making a backup of /home should do it, right?
[20:56] <ubuntu> hello all
[20:57] <sgt_hannibal> hi, I'm new here.... And i have a problem  with the usb automount. Can anyone help me?
[20:57] <rakan> mcquaid: i think selecting the packages again using adept or synaptic is the way to go
[20:57] <ubuntu> i can't enable 3d desktop in kubuntu however i done it quickly in ubuntu any ideas how to enable it here
[20:57] <mcquaid> you really should be able to do what i'm saying.  one sec
[20:58] <rakan> mcquaid: ok waiting
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> matahari: yes, that should do it... a list of packages that you manually installed would be hard...
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> sgt_hannibal: what is the problem.
[20:59] <matahari> nosrednaekim: i have an idea: the logfile....
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[20:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:59] <DrakeJustice_> hello all
[20:59] <sgt_hannibal> my usb storage devices doesn't automount the way the it use to be
[20:59] <sgt_hannibal> i upgrade to 7.10
[21:00] <ubuntu> thanks i am doing that now
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> matahari: you can get a list of ALL installed packages with "dpkg -l"
[21:01] <matahari> ok
[21:01] <matahari> nosrednaekim: please cross your fingers for me...
[21:02] <matahari> nosrednaekim: if everything goes right i will be online again soon (hopefully in an hour....)
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sgt_hannibal: and what happens?
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> matahari: :)
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> matahari: in the future you may want to put your /home on a different partition..
[21:03] <matahari> nosrednaekim: ;-)
[21:03] <matahari> bye
[21:03] <rakan> mquaid: it's working, the problem was that i did not CD to archives folder :p
[21:04] <sgt_hannibal> nosrednaekim: well, I can mount it, the issue is that it used to automount and recoginize the name i gave to it, now i have to manually mount it, and it will be named sdb1
[21:05] <athem> hi everyone, am i able to upgrade to kubuntu from an existing ubuntu 7.10 installation?
[21:05] <DaSkreech> !upgrade | athem
[21:05] <athem> !upgrade
[21:05] <ubotu> athem: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> sgt_hannibal: take a look in system-settings-> advanced->disks and partitions
[21:06] <sgt_hannibal> nosrednaekim: and i used to have conky display the stats about my usb drivers... but now it doesn't recoginize its name, the main problem is: the first usb that i plug in will besdb1, regardless its name
[21:06] <mcquaid> rakan, ahh ok, i knew that should work.  good to hear
[21:07] <jords> Does anyone know if there are kde 4 beta 4 packages avalible for kubuntu yet?
[21:07] <DaSkreech> jords: Soon
[21:07] <athem> DaSkreech: !update doesn't do anything, not help text pops up
[21:07] <sgt_hannibal> nosrednaekim: thats how i mount it, but before used to be automatically with the usb name (like linux01, linux02, win .. etc)
[21:08] <athem> ubotu: there's only upgrade info from previous ubuntu installations to the latest release there, no info on switching from ubuntu to kubuntu
[21:08] <sgt_hannibal> nosrednaekim: and now is sdb1 sdb2 .... and the other matter... so I can't set my conkyrc to display my usb static right
[21:08] <jords> athem: I think you just need to install kubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <debian-is-me> My friend wants ATI drivers for kubuntu, how?
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> sgt_hannibal: ah... you need to use mount by UUID in disks and partitions
[21:09] <tekteen> go to the kcontrol panel
[21:09] <DaSkreech> athem: ooooh
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> debian-is-me: if he is on gutsy, use the restricted-manager-kde
[21:09] <athem> hords: so Applications -> Add/Remove and then look for kubuntu-desktop?
[21:09] <sgt_hannibal> nosrednaekim: I see ...
[21:09] <DaSkreech> athem: You want to get rid of gnome ?
[21:10] <debian-is-me> it says  softvare source (....)  is not enabled, what is wrong?
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> !repositories | debian-is-me
[21:10] <ubotu> debian-is-me: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> !search fglrx
[21:10] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-#ubuntu-effects, fglrx, ati-#ubuntu-effects
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> !info fglrx
[21:10] <ubotu> Package fglrx does not exist in gutsy
[21:10] <athem> DaSkreech: I want to test out KDE, since i get choppy video playback and wondered if kde would work better
[21:11] <jords> athem: I don't think it will be in add/remove, but If you go to synaptic it should be there
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[21:11] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.9 (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB
[21:11] <jords> athen
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> debian-is-me: you need to enable the restricted-repository
[21:11] <rakan> mcquaid: i thank you for saving 12 hours of my time :p :D
[21:11] <DaSkreech> athem: ah. Umm why don't you just install Kaffiene then?
[21:11] <DaSkreech> or vlc ?
[21:11] <mcquaid> np
[21:11] <debian-is-me> why is it restricted?
[21:12] <tekteen> it means it is not open source
[21:12] <tekteen> you can still use it
[21:12] <tekteen> :-)
[21:12] <jords> athem: is it there?
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> debian-is-me: just that its not officailly supported since it is closed sourse...itssafe tho
[21:13] <debian-is-me> But what is point of open-source for people that doesn't know how to program?
[21:13] <athem> jords: there's lots of packages starting with kde, which one would be the right one to choose?
[21:14] <athem> DaSkreech: what is Kaffiene?
[21:14] <tekteen> it means other people can find bugs
[21:14] <DaSkreech> athem: The KDE video player
[21:14] <DaSkreech> You can install it in Gnome
[21:14] <DaSkreech>  what are the specs on your machine ?
[21:14] <DrakeJustice_> athem: not as well programed as some other video players i might add
[21:14] <tekteen> debian-is-me: it also means it cannot be supported
[21:14] <tekteen> although still safe
[21:15] <debian-is-me> But for me, whats the diffrence? the binarys makes as much sense as the source-code, so should I use open-source or not care?
[21:15] <tekteen> do not care
[21:15] <tekteen> simple answer
[21:15] <DrakeJustice_> sheesh!
[21:16] <athem> DaSkreech: I am using ubuntu 7.10 with the standard gnome environment. running a kde program isn't possible atm ;)
[21:16] <DrakeJustice_> tekteen: what if no one cared?
[21:16] <DaSkreech> athem: Yes it is
[21:16] <tekteen> i know
[21:16] <DrakeJustice_> athem: gnome can run KDE apps
[21:16] <tekteen> but it is all we have
[21:16] <athem> oh...hmm...gonna give this a try then
[21:16] <tekteen> and it has crashed many times
[21:16] <tekteen> lol
[21:16] <debian-is-me> Can gnome run Knetworkmanager?
[21:16] <DaSkreech> Yes
[21:17] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: yea, but i wouldn't recommend it...
[21:17] <arcade> Hmm.  Having trouble with compiz and Ubuntu 7.10 (w/kubuntu-desktop) ..
[21:17] <debian-is-me> why not?
[21:17] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: gnome has a better one (for gnome)
[21:17] <debian-is-me> I like knetworkmanager
[21:17] <DaSkreech> Knetworkmanager was abused
[21:17] <arcade> Is it completely non-supported?
[21:17] <DaSkreech> It needs love and attention
[21:17] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: by all means, use it then :)
[21:17] <DaSkreech> arcade: Not totally unsupported :)
[21:17] <debian-is-me> how can i abuse knetworkmanager?
[21:17] <DaSkreech> arcade: There is #compiz-fusion
[21:17] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: he meant the developers of it i think
[21:18] <arcade> DaSkreech: :P  Of course, but I'm thinking "support from other kubuntu-users"-supported :P
[21:18] <DaSkreech> Sure
[21:18] <debian-is-me> Can kubuntu/debian be used to crack wpa sertificates?
[21:18] <angeldarkholme> hello everybody...could you please tell me how can I activate compiz fusion on kubuntu gutsy?
[21:18] <DaSkreech> But a good number of KDE<__>compiz-fusion bugs are really only fixable by the compiz-fusion people
[21:19] <DaSkreech> debian-is-me: Any computer can do that
[21:19] <angeldarkholme> everything is installed (all the packages that I need)
[21:19] <arcade> DaSkreech: Aha.:)
[21:19] <DaSkreech> !compiz | angeldarkholme
[21:19] <ubotu> angeldarkholme: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:19] <angeldarkholme> but I can't see any desktop effects
[21:19] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: essentially anything electrical can...
[21:19] <angeldarkholme> thanks :)
[21:19] <debian-is-me> But how?
[21:19] <DaSkreech> angeldarkholme: open a konsole and type compiz --replace
[21:19] <tekteen> look opensource is the way to go. but if you want to play 3d games you need to install restricted drivers. :-(
[21:19] <DaSkreech> debian-is-me: Wrong place to discuss that
[21:19] <arcade> DaSkreech: Well, I'm hoping Kubuntu 8.04 and Compiz will play better together :P  (And Ubuntu ... I mean, there are still Bugs!) :P
[21:20] <DaSkreech> arcade: They will but it won't make much a difference
[21:20] <jpatrick> arcade: it's planned
[21:20] <gogy> hi to all I`m having pšroblems installing beryl-settings becouse they depend on python 2.4 I have 2.4 and 2.5 how to use right one for the instalation??
[21:20] <debian-is-me> But I have a legimate reason, my school has wpa, but they won't give support for linux users, I have the username/password, but I need the sertificate
[21:20] <arcade> DaSkreech: Hey, anything I can use to impress the windowsers at the office .. and try to get'em to switch :P
[21:20] <DrakeJustice_> gogy: update-alternatives --config python
[21:21] <DrakeJustice_> arcade: dozers aren't intelligent enough, switching them just makes them confused
[21:21] <DrakeJustice_> lol
[21:21] <DaSkreech> arcade: 8.10 will have KDE4 which has compositing built in
[21:21] <DaSkreech>  compositing is the fanciness that compiz brings :)
[21:21] <DaSkreech> arcade: try the comfusion DVd
[21:21] <DrakeJustice_> KDE4.5 > compiz ?? w00t
[21:21] <DaSkreech> arcade: or press alt+space :)
[21:22] <arcade> DrakeJustice_: That's not _our_ windows users :P  I mean, we're a sysadmin company :P  Our windows users are smart.
[21:22] <debian-is-me> what features will be inplented in Kubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:22] <DrakeJustice_> arcade: that's cool...
[21:22] <arcade> DrakeJustice_: about 120 people, around 70 unix users :P  Not all linux though ;P
[21:22] <DrakeJustice_> arcade: lemme quote that 'windows users are smart' - nytimes
[21:22] <DrakeJustice_> lol
[21:23] <debian-is-me> is it freenode.com or org?
[21:23] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: org
[21:23] <arcade> DrakeJustice_: I'll be happy when our technical director turns unix (again).  he's just using windows these days because the windows-department are feeling bullied ;PP
[21:23] <athem> DaSkreech: installed kaffeine but its not playing anything. so is there no way to get a kde desktop running other then to completely reinstall kubuntu from a live cd?
[21:24] <DaSkreech> athem: Sure install kubuntu-desktop
[21:24] <DrakeJustice_> arcade: tell the CEO's a nice presentation about 'vendor lock-in' and see their reaction
[21:24] <debian-is-me> is samba faster than a windows 2003 server, and can samba connect to an windows 2003 server?
[21:24] <tekteen> yes and yes
[21:24] <DaSkreech> athem: are you upgrading to 7.10
[21:24] <ardchoille> DrakeJustice_: Nice technique
[21:25] <arcade> DrakeJustice_: Not necessary ;P  They know it.
[21:25] <tekteen> samba it can also be configured more
[21:25] <DrakeJustice_> arcade: and they still bought it?? lol
[21:25] <athem> DaSkreech: am using ubuntu 7.10 already
[21:25] <tekteen> debian-is-me: have any more questions
[21:25] <debian-is-me> can I use a 133mhz 78mb ram as a samba file server?
[21:25] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: yup
[21:26] <DaSkreech> athem: ah ok :) yeah just install kubuntu-desktop
[21:26] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: slowly :)
[21:26] <arcade> DrakeJustice_: Well, as we're a "both windows and unix shop" some of them need to ;P
[21:26] <debian-is-me> faster than windows 2003 on an fast computer?
[21:26] <tekteen> debian-is-me: you would need a very basic install
[21:27] <tekteen> (with samba)
[21:27] <athem> DaSkreech: giving it a try, thanks ;)
[21:27] <jords> athem: Yes you get a kde desktop if you install kubuntu-desktop
[21:27] <debian-is-me> Yes, how can I strip debian down to speed up startup?
[21:27] <ardchoille> debian-is-me: I don't think you'll get the desktop cd to run ont that, you're better off installing from the server cd
[21:27] <DaSkreech> arcade: I like alt+space though :)
[21:27] <athem> jords: thanks
[21:27] <ardchoille> debian-is-me: install the server edition and build from there
[21:28] <DaSkreech> debian-is-me: at that point I'd be looking at gentoo
[21:28] <debian-is-me> I'm talking about a diffrent computer, it is debian, and it uses 70sec to boot, too slow. Need to speed up-
[21:28] <tekteen> debian-is-me: boot does not matter
[21:29] <debian-is-me> how do I login?
[21:29] <tekteen> debian-is-me: what do u mean?
[21:29] <debian-is-me> I want the boot time to be lower, I get bored when I start the computer.
[21:30] <tekteen> you could run it all the time (i do)
[21:30] <Aartix003> you get bored?
[21:30] <DaSkreech> debian-is-me: kill services you don't need
[21:30] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: check sysv-init (read up on it)
[21:30] <ardchoille> debian-is-me: Why do you even reboot/shutdown?
[21:30] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: /etc/init.d/
[21:30] <debian-is-me> ok
[21:31] <tekteen> debian-is-me: /etc/rc.2
[21:31] <debian-is-me> Once in a while the power goes out, or the dog eats the wires
[21:31] <ardchoille> debian-is-me: There's a nice cli ui for that: sysv-rc-conf
[21:31] <tekteen> that is very rare
[21:31] <tekteen> live through it
[21:31] <Aartix003> debian-is-me: working?
[21:31] <debian-is-me> working?
[21:31] <tekteen> (from the very impatient 14 year old)
[21:32] <noam_> ...so i installed the 8.42 driver, had some issues, so i ran uninstall_fglrx from /usr/share/ati and removed fglrx from the linux-restricted-modules. after i did that, X DID NOT LOAD AT ALL, and the radeon driver was sort of broken, so i installed 8.40. how depressing
[21:32] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: does debian-is-me know what cli or ui are?
[21:32] <debian-is-me> no, but do I need too?
[21:32] <ardchoille> DrakeJustice_: I assumed he did
[21:32] <DrakeJustice_> noam_: you aren't alone... my 200m hates me as well
[21:32] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: lol
[21:32] <qolo> I hate you too
[21:32] <tekteen> I assumed too
[21:33] <tekteen> cli=command line interface ui=user interface
[21:33] <debian-is-me> so I can just remove stupid stuff? like hp printing? torrent tracker? and other crap
[21:33] <ardchoille> I guess I could have foregone the "ui"
[21:33] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: Alt+F2 'type 'konsole' then press enter then type into the terminal 'sudo sysv-rc-conf' and press enter
[21:33] <yakuzi> Hi all, i've a strange problem... i just had a sudden shut-down (for the 3th or 4th time in a few days) on my laptop (using gutsy)
[21:34] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: u need a new kernel compile probably
[21:34] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: userspace apps shouldn't cause that unless they are malicious...
[21:34] <bmk789> ktorrent isnt seeding correctly, is this a common problem?
[21:35] <DrakeJustice_> bmk789: no... what version are you using
[21:35] <yakuzi> i have totaly no idea what can cause it... because it's not a normal shut-down, but my laptop just turns of directly...
[21:35] <bmk789> 2.2.1
[21:35] <DrakeJustice_> bmk789: default gutsy version seeds fine for me... maybe a reinstall or check the tracker's in your torrent
[21:35] <tekteen> bmk789: it may be your isp
[21:35] <alexander> hi
[21:35] <debian-is-me> sysv-rc-conf not found
[21:35] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: that's what im saying, it has to be 'your hardware + bad kernel'
[21:35] <bmk789> tekteen: its worked fine until i switched to ktorrent
[21:35] <tekteen> type the command it gave
[21:35] <alexander> how do i install my printer (hp laserjet 1018) on my kubuntu
[21:36] <tekteen> ok
[21:36] <bmk789> it will occasionally upload slowly but it drops after a few minutes
[21:36] <ardchoille> debian-is-me: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[21:36] <tekteen> no clue
[21:36] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: lol
[21:36] <debian-is-me> ' OK
[21:36] <Alarm> whats a good application to trace hosts, check for open ports and stuff like that ?
[21:36] <DaSkreech> yakuzi: power manager?
[21:36] <debian-is-me> Alexander: lolz
[21:36] <DrakeJustice_> Alarm: ethereal??? not my question guys...
[21:36] <debian-is-me> Alexander: Install a printer in kubuntu is easy, just go into the priter thingi and install it.
[21:37] <DaSkreech> !wireshark
[21:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:37] <DaSkreech> !info wireshark
[21:37] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[21:37] <Alarm> what do u mean ethereal ?
[21:37] <DrakeJustice_> alexander: you need programs called hp-toolbox, hplip, and hpjis...
[21:37] <debian-is-me> sysv-rc-conf how do I use? can I unselect anything i don't use?
[21:37] <DrakeJustice_> Alarm: ethereal is a network studying tool isn't it?
[21:37] <alexander> he doesnt find it
[21:37] <DaSkreech> !info ethereal
[21:37] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 60 kB
[21:38] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: read up on that stuff first man!
[21:38] <debian-is-me> Is it a overkill to run kdm and gdm at the same time?
[21:38] <DaSkreech> debian-is-me: yes
[21:38] <tekteen> debian-is-me: BE CAREFUL!!!
[21:38] <debian-is-me> witch one is best?
[21:38] <Alarm> drag0,  i dont know
[21:38] <tekteen> kdm
[21:38] <tekteen> I think
[21:38] <DrakeJustice_> alexander: use adept-manager to find those programs... or google them
[21:38] <DaSkreech> :-P
[21:38] <DaSkreech> the one you like
[21:39] <DrakeJustice_> i figured someone would yell...
[21:39] <yakuzi> can it be caused by a package that's maybe left after trying compiz-fusion?
[21:39] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: don't run both unless you use both...
[21:39] <debian-is-me> what does alsa do?
[21:39] <tekteen> sound
[21:39] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: i don't think so... do you use proprietary drivers?
[21:39] <debian-is-me> Can I run kdm and gdm at the same time?
[21:40] <tekteen> I would keep that
[21:40] <tekteen> no
[21:40] <debian-is-me> Why? I usally don't have any speakers
[21:40] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: yes you can, but you can only use one at a time
[21:40] <tekteen> ok
[21:40] <yakuzi> well i've the restricted intel driver for my videocard
[21:40] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: you can run more than one at a time, but can only Use one at a time...
[21:41] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: that could be it... i wouldn't make that my first guess... how long has it been running good before shutting down (3months or more?)
[21:41] <debian-is-me> cupssys, is printers right?
[21:41] <tekteen> yep
[21:41] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: if you don't know don't stop it!
[21:42] <Aartix003> debian-is-me: nothing happends here!
[21:42] <debian-is-me> ok
[21:42] <debian-is-me> in the other room
[21:42] <yakuzi> well i've installed gutsy around 1 week after release, before that i had feisty, working like a charm... (i didn't upgrade, a fresh install)
[21:42] <debian-is-me> look for debian-is-me in the screen
[21:42] <debian-is-me> what does klogd do?
[21:42] <Aartix003> woot?
[21:42] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: i hate to say, but you may need to reinstall to fix that kernel...
[21:42] <tekteen> logs kde programs
[21:42] <debian-is-me> change the room
[21:43] <debian-is-me> that can't  be useful?
[21:43] <DrakeJustice_> or google up howto compile a kernel for ubuntu
[21:43] <bjwebb> my cursor is broke :S
[21:43] <yakuzi> can i repair the kernell with the repair older instalation thing on the cd?
[21:43] <bjwebb> its stuck on the crossed circle
[21:43] <bjwebb> can i fix without logging out?
[21:43] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: maybe, i've never had that situation...
[21:43] <debian-is-me> It probably only use space an slow down computer making stupid logs?
[21:44] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: you'd be surprised later when you need those logs to fix something and don't have them...
[21:44] <debian-is-me> so it is safe to remove?
[21:44] <rahmat> how do I make emerald my main theme manager?
[21:44] <tekteen> debian-is-me: 1 I use them 2 they will be started later by kde
[21:44] <yakuzi> the thing is also, if i open adept manager and i search for installed packages with compiz, i've 1 left... "libdecoration0"
[21:44] <debian-is-me> crapy kde
[21:45] <tekteen> yep
[21:45] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: i wouldn't... they don't take that much ram or space...
[21:45] <yakuzi> can i remove that safely? (maybe that's left from the compiz-try and it causes it?)
[21:45] <debian-is-me> nfs-common seams useless? is it?
[21:45] <tekteen> yep
[21:45] <tekteen> unless u use nfs
[21:45] <DaSkreech> debian-is-me: again gentoo would be good for that slow computer
[21:45] <debian-is-me> don't eaven know what it is
[21:45] <Aartix003> debian-is-me: aint working
[21:46] <Nyle> hey guys
[21:46] <debian-is-me> 600mhz amd duron
[21:46] <DaSkreech> debian-is-me: just tell it you want to install samba and it will only install waht you need to run that
[21:46] <Nyle> kubunti gusty keeps crashiin onn me
[21:46] <DaSkreech> Nyle: repeatable ?
[21:46] <rahmat> ok, im having serious issues, hah. Ive been searching everywhere but nothing has helped. I can't get KDM themes to work, can't get compiz confusion to work, and emerald theme manager to work.
[21:46] <Nyle> if i click to see a menu sometimes, it will reboot X
[21:46] <Nyle> if sometimes I drag a window it will reboot X
[21:46] <Nyle> sometimes it goes blank/black
[21:46] <DaSkreech> rahmat: You need to install a package for KDM themes
[21:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, i'd say it's repeatable...
[21:46] <Nyle> sometimes the whole system locks up
[21:46] <DaSkreech> !compiz | rahmat
[21:47] <ubotu> rahmat: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:47] <rahmat> I have kdm theme manager
[21:47] <Nyle> I've ran memtest for a while, cpu burn in test, all the cables are carefully plugged in tight
[21:47] <Nyle> this only happens in kubuntu gusty
[21:47] <debian-is-me> do i need openbsd? it seams usefull1
[21:47] <Nyle> what do I do
[21:47] <tekteen> lol
[21:47] <debian-is-me> not?
[21:47] <tekteen> debian-is-me: no
[21:47] <Nyle> debian-is-me: you need flowers
[21:47] <rahmat> I have the compix-fusion settings manager
[21:47] <DaSkreech> Nyle: is it repeatable ?
[21:47] <tekteen> debian-is-me: you do not know enough
[21:47] <Nyle> DaSkreech: yes
[21:47] <Nyle> DaSkreech: but I can't produce it
[21:47] <rahmat> I can load that but when I x the effects, they don't apply
[21:47] <rahmat> :\
[21:48] <Nyle> it just happens
[21:48] <tekteen> debian-is-me: sorry
[21:48] <debian-is-me> too not have openbsd wont kill my system?
[21:48] <rahmat> same with emerald theme manager
[21:48] <tekteen> ?
[21:48] <DaSkreech> Nyle: can you jump to #kubuntu-devel and explain what happens
[21:48] <debian-is-me> it will still boot and work?
[21:48] <Aartix003> debian-is-me: do this other day, im tired, i sleep now..
[21:48] <debian-is-me> ok
[21:49] <RichardBH> hi
[21:49] <RichardBH> does anyone know anything about usb mmory sticks/cameras in kubuntu?
[21:50] <tekteen> what do u need help with
[21:50] <debian-is-me> Should I use rmnologin or does it suck like all the other stuff?
[21:50] <tekteen> ?
[21:50] <j2^> Hello! I've spent most of the night on google, trying to figure out why 7.10 on a fresh install (Even in safe graphics mode) just gives me horizontal stripes (i can sort of see the desktop, but reading anything is impossible) (Core2Duo 2.66, nVidia 7300)  Knoppmyth and LinuxMCE works fine.
[21:51] <yurimxpxman> what's the sftp command to download an entire directory? `get dirname` isn't working for me..
[21:52] <debian-is-me> does sysklogd also only make stupid logs?
[21:53] <jords> yurimxpxman: Not sure there is one, but I think most graphical sftp clients (I use gftp) will just list the directory and then fetch each file...
[21:53] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: 'system kernel log deamon'
[21:54] <jords> yurimxpxman: that works fine
[21:54] <debian-is-me> thaty would mean i don't need it at startup?
[21:56] <DrakeJustice_> debian-is-me: depends... what are you doing? a samba server? u need logs for servers... you'll get in legal bs over not having apropriate logs
[21:56] <debian-is-me> no a desktop
[21:56] <RichardBH> anybody got any idea why my camera isnt detected when i plug it in? (even as just a usb storage thing like in windows)?
[21:57] <DrakeJustice_> RichardBH: have you tried digiKam? it might be a PTP camera...
[21:58] <ardchoille> RichardBH: Plug it in and see if you can add it on digicam
[21:58] <ardchoille> *digikam
[21:58] <tekteen> my camera (ect.) work fine
[21:59] <ryanakca> Nyle: hmm... does it happen under GNOME?
[21:59] <Aartix003> how can I get an ATI driver for my grafic-card?
[21:59] <ardchoille> RichardBH: What kind of cam is it?
[21:59] <ardchoille> !ati | Aartix003
[21:59] <ubotu> Aartix003: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:59] <purpleposeidon> Is there a daemon for letting a computer access another's usb ports?
[21:59] <tekteen> samba will work
[22:00] <yakuzi> DrakeJustice_: after i tried compiz-fusion i removed all the things i installed... but if i search in adept on compiz, i still find an installed package called "libdecoration0" can i remove it safely?
[22:00] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: if you don't need compizfusion anymore
[22:01] <DrakeJustice_> yakuzi: make sure libdecoration isn't dependant on kwin or metacity first... most importantly actaully
[22:01] <Nyle> ryanakca: i don't use knome
[22:01] <Nyle> but it happens not under anything but kubntu gusty
[22:02] <RichardBH> DrakeJustice_: is digiKam something i can install with Adept?
[22:02] <DrakeJustice_> RichardBH: yea, if it isn't already in the menu
[22:02] <ardchoille> RichardBH: You should have digikam already in the Graphics menu
[22:02] <RichardBH> ahha, found it, thanks
[22:03] <RichardBH> im always worried i havent quite got 7.10 - i thought dolphin was supposed to replace konqueror, but theres no sign of it
[22:03] <ardchoille> RichardBH: Open a terminal and type:  lsb_release -a
[22:03] <methods> whats that program that can make a screen cap of a vnc session ?
[22:04] <RichardBH> ardchoille: lsb-release: command not found
[22:04] <ardchoille> RichardBH: you need a "_", not a "-"
[22:05] <ardchoille> lsb_release -a
[22:06] <RichardBH> ardchoille: my mistake :$
[22:06] <RichardBH> 7.10
[22:06] <ardchoille> That's Gutsy
[22:06] <RichardBH> yeah
[22:06] <RichardBH> i just thought that meant dolphin should have replaced konqueror :P
[22:06] <ardchoille> RichardBH: My camera wasn't detected either, but I was able to add it n digikam
[22:07] <RichardBH> digiKam cant autodetect it - ill try adding it manually
[22:07] <yakuzi> DrakeJustice_: it seems not to be needed for kwin or metacity, lucky for me because i was a bit fast with removing... your wrning came after i hit the remove :s
[22:07] <ardchoille> RichardBH: Which kind/model is it?
[22:07] <Aartix003> ubotu: "cant find packs"
[22:07] <ardchoille> !bot
[22:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:09] <RichardBH> ardchoille: Olympus C-725UZ
[22:10] <ardchoille> RichardBH: I don't see it in the list in kcontrol. only C-700, C-750 and C-770
[22:10] <ardchoille> RichardBH: I'm looking it up in the Hardware Compat List
[22:11] <RichardBH> ardchoille: im fairly sure its a C-700 DERIVATIVE
[22:11] <RichardBH> derivative*
[22:11] <ardchoille> Hmm.. don't see it there either
[22:12] <RichardBH> no, but i mean its almost identical to the C700
[22:12] <RichardBH> just has a slightly better lens on the front
[22:12] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[22:14] <RichardBH> ardchoille: if it helps, im not sure any usb thing is detected..
[22:15] <ardchoille> Then you have a bigger issue than just the camera
[22:15] <RichardBH> in fact, i cant see my usb ports in the lspci list ...
[22:15] <RichardBH> *goes back to google*
[22:24] <sorush20> when I try to start system settings it keeps crashing any help please?
[22:25] <ardchoille> sorush20: Try launching it from a terminal and see if there is any error output
[22:25] <sorush20> I get this back trace http://pastebin.com/m486b9607
[22:29] <sorush20> any ideas anyone?
[22:29] <bjwebb> hi
[22:29] <sorush20> hi bjwebb
[22:30] <bjwebb> ħełłø
[22:30] <sorush20> hello bjwebb
[22:30] <bjwebb> any ideas of a video manager for linux?
[22:31] <purpleposeidon> !USB
[22:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:31] <sorush20> bjwebb: is there a video manager in windows?
[22:31] <bjwebb> sorush20: well for windows
[22:31] <bjwebb> itunes?
[22:31] <sorush20> !itunes
[22:31] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[22:32] <sorush20> banshee is a good one and also kaffeine
[22:32] <bjwebb> i know, but i don't want an audio player/manager alternative
[22:32] <arash_> isn't itunes for music, not video manager?
[22:32] <purpleposeidon> !usb
[22:32] <bjwebb> it does music videos as well
[22:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <arash_> what is video manager anyway?
[22:32] <sorush20> there is songbird
[22:32] <sorush20> !songbird
[22:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <arash_> !info songbird
[22:32] <ubotu> Package songbird does not exist in gutsy
[22:33] <bjwebb> its not in gutsy repos i don't think
[22:33] <bjwebb> songbird does video?
[22:33] <arash_> too bad :p. bjwebb, are you looking for a program that simply plays video files?
[22:34] <bjwebb> no
[22:34] <bjwebb> i have them
[22:34] <sorush20> there just isn't a program like that available as far as I know for linux
[22:35] <bjwebb> hmmm
[22:35] <methods> hey ?
[22:35] <arash_> mind describing what a 'video manager' is?
[22:35] <bjwebb> you would have thought someone would have done an itunes clone with video
[22:35] <methods> is x11 tcp turned off ?
[22:35] <bjwebb> arash_: like amarok is an audio manager
[22:35] <arash_> bjwebb: ah, you mean it's have them in a playlist?
[22:36] <sorush20> how do I add a user to a group from the command line
[22:36] <bjwebb> arash_: yeah and a library
[22:36] <zengen> Anyone know of a cd catalog app that will index id3 date of mp3's?
[22:36] <arash_> bjwebb: maybe Democracy player or Miro is what ur looking for, I've nnot really used any of them seriously...
[22:36] <bjwebb> arash_: hmm mebbe
[22:37] <arash_> !info Democracy
[22:37] <ubotu> Package democracy does not exist in gutsy
[22:37] <arash_> !info Democracy Player
[22:38] <bjwebb> !info miro
[22:38] <ubotu> miro: GTK+ based RSS video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 555 kB, installed size 3012 kB
[22:38] <bjwebb> arash_: you know Democracy = Miro
[22:38] <arash_> bjwebb: yea, but I wasn't sure if they implemented it in 7.10
[22:38] <bjwebb> oh okies
[22:39] <arash_> bjwebb: I still have Democracy Player ;) , (I have 7.04), it's far to buggy to use
[22:39] <bjwebb> yeah, i think i tried one of them briefly
[22:40] <B-Minus> how can i upgrade to the latest compiz-fusion ?
[22:41] <Alarm> when i just tried to do an apt-get upgrade , there were some packages to get upgraded like iceweasel openoffice.org-java-common . but i get also that penoffice.org openoffice.org-base and many others are being kept back, why is that
[22:41] <d3vil_> hi
[22:41] <sorush20> what are the dbg packages for system settings?
[22:42] <methods> how do i enable x11 over tcp ?
[22:44] <d3vil_> Hi, this is my first try with Linux... i installed kubuntu and can't access my other (sata) windos partitions
[22:45] <yakuzi> !firewall
[22:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[22:45] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[22:45] <d3vil_> i have read  that  i modified the fstab...
[22:45] <d3vil_> ...but have no idea
[22:46] <[Relic]> Got kdesudo running at boot but failing where do I look to see what it is trying to run that fails?
[22:47] <RichardBH> anybody know anything about pci cards not being detected in kubuntu?
[22:47] <sorush20> RichardBH: what pci card
[22:47] <RichardBH> its a USB card with 2 sockets on
[22:48] <sorush20> most usbs are detected..
[22:48] <sorush20> try do in lspci to find out the name
[22:48] <sorush20> do you see anything that sounds like your card
[22:49] <sorush20> somone help me access my systemsettings it keeps crashing
[22:49] <RichardBH> i have a host bridge, pci bridge, isa bridge and ide interface
[22:49] <RichardBH> hten my wired and wireless cards
[22:49] <RichardBH> then my agp graphics card
[22:49] <sorush20> oaky
[22:49] <RichardBH> the usb card doesnt seem to be listed
[22:50] <DrakeJustice_> sorush20: type 'kcontrol > /tmp/bob' and paste the /tmp/bob file please
[22:51] <sorush20> there isn't anything is the file
[22:51] <sorush20> DrakeJustice_:
[22:57] <genii> RichardBH: Perhaps plug some usb deivice into it then see the results of dmesg
[23:01] <RichardBH> genii: the bits that get added just after it gets plugged in?
[23:02] <genii> RichardBH: Yup. then you'll know at least if it's seeing the usb somehow even if it's not listing it as on the pci bus
[23:02] <KeithF40> hey guys hwo do you get firefox working??????????
[23:02] <KeithF40> i downloaded it and have all the files but nothign opens it up
[23:02] <RichardBH> no - it still ends in the same lines, so it doesnt look like anything is getting added
[23:03] <RichardBH> genii: i know the USBs have power because the camera turns on
[23:03] <genii> So you went to Adept or Synaptic package manager and chose for firefox to be installed, it installed, and now won't run?
[23:03] <KeithF40> oh i didnt know what to do there
[23:03] <KeithF40> i just downloaded the file and extracted it
[23:03] <KeithF40> im very new to linux
[23:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> proposal for hardy
[23:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> non-skippable new-user tutorial.
[23:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> explaining repositories and software installation :)
[23:04] <KeithF40> ok im in the manager
[23:04] <genii> KeithF40: Install by package manager when possible :) Another alternative is from a Konsole, to type in: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install firefox
[23:04] <RichardBH> Daisuke_Laptop: that would have been so useful for me...
[23:04] <KeithF40> where is this tutorial for me to read
[23:05] <eljefe_> can anyone tell me why me Kaffeine won't start?  It bounces there, mocking me, but there is no CPU usage or anything.
[23:05] <genii> RichardBH: Does it show on command   lsusb instead of the lspci ?
[23:05] <RichardBH> lsusb just makes it pause for about half a second and then display the next prompt
[23:06] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, are trying to play a commercial dvd ?
[23:06] <genii> KeithF40: OK you see where it has Search in top left? put in for instance   firefox
[23:06] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: no, a home video.  its not the videotho, i cannot even launch the app.
[23:07] <KeithF40> yeah there are like 20 maybe
[23:07] <BluesKaj> will VLC play the video eljefe_ ?
[23:07] <eljefe_> mplayer will
[23:07] <eljefe_> its not the video, tho.  kaffeine won't open
[23:07] <navets> is there a way to reinstall the gutsy kernel
[23:07] <genii> KeithF40: n to where the main one, just firefox is. then check off the box
[23:07] <kubuntunewbie> get vlc
[23:07] <eljefe_> any video or anything
[23:07] <eljefe_> lol thanks kubuntunewbie
[23:08] <eljefe_> but  i like and want kaffeine; it worked yesterday.
[23:08] <KeithF40> idk if its workoing
[23:08] <KeithF40> i clicked reques install
[23:08] <kubuntunewbie> eljefe_: u think people want advice from a guy with the name kubuntunewbie?!?! ;)
[23:08] <genii> KeithF40: You have to hit Apply Changes in bottom right
[23:08] <KeithF40> not it says break isntall
[23:08] <eljefe_> lol
[23:08] <BluesKaj> ok eljefe_ , try to install libxine1-ffmpeg
[23:09] <eljefe_> already installed
[23:09] <eljefe_> i reinstalled kaffeine but still, no.
[23:10] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, was kaffeine working previous to your latest login ?
[23:10] <eljefe_> yes
[23:10] <BluesKaj> try a reboot
[23:10] <genii> RichardBH: Do you know how to use pastebin website?
[23:10] <eljefe_> i just powered down to install a hard drive, but I've done nothing with that yet, and i don't see how it is related.
[23:10] <eljefe_> ok i'll try it...
[23:11] <eljefe_> or can i just change runlevels?
[23:11] <kubuntunewbie> rebooting fixes everything
[23:11] <kubuntunewbie> one time i got a virus
[23:11] <kubuntunewbie> and rebooted
[23:11] <kubuntunewbie> and it was gone.
[23:11] <BluesKaj> <---doesn't fool with runlevels
[23:11] <eljefe_> i even removed the ~/.kde/apps/share/kaffeinerc but still no go
[23:11] <eljefe_> lol ok i'll reboot, back in a few
[23:12] <kubuntunewbie> anyone know of a good mindless game that can be played with a touchpad that is for linux and is free?
[23:12] <genii> RichardBH: You can perhaps put in the pastebin the results of command:  lspci -vv       as well as the entire contents of the file /var/log/dmesg
[23:12] <KeithF40> why am i getting this break install erorr?
[23:12] <RichardBH> genii:  ill give it a go
[23:12] <BluesKaj> kubuntunewbie, watch tv :)
[23:13] <kubuntunewbie> BluesKaj: already doing that
[23:13] <BluesKaj> tyhen yer halfwat there
[23:13] <genii> KeithF40: When you opened the package manager did it ask for a password?
[23:13] <BluesKaj> oops err then yer halfway there
[23:15] <genii> !ping
[23:15] <ubotu> pong
[23:15] <genii> OK, not ghosting :)
[23:15] <KeithF40> yes genjii and i entered it
[23:16] <RichardBH> genii:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43055/ is the lspci -vv
[23:16] <kubuntunewbie> ubotu whats up homie? how u been? u pimpin hoes tonight?
[23:16] <bassmac> the packages with the kubuntu logo next to them in adept are "official" and others are not, right?
[23:16] <eljefe_> BluesKaj and kubuntunewbie -- yeah the reboot fixed it :)  thanks for the obvious tip
[23:16] <genii> KeithF40: OK, good. Exactly what was the message it gave about not being able to install, or such?
[23:17] <genii> RichardBH: OK, reading
[23:17] <kubuntunewbie> eljefe_: WAHOO! grab yourself a beer and enjoy watching that video u were going to watch!
[23:17] <DrakeJustice_> i just popped in, but kubuntunewbie: do you know what ubotu is?
[23:17] <eljefe_> will do!
[23:17] <kubuntunewbie> DrakeJustice_: yes, its a bot.
[23:17] <DrakeJustice_> kubuntunewbie: k
[23:17] <kubuntunewbie> DrakeJustice_: i was hoping a few people in here had a sense of humor.
[23:17] <kubuntunewbie> DrakeJustice_: ;)
[23:17] <DrakeJustice_> kubuntunewbie: otherwise that would have been hilarious...
[23:17] <kubuntunewbie> DrakeJustice_: lol
[23:18] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, it's not obvious , it's just that it's symptomatic of a prob I had a few days ago as well, but why it requires a reboot to fix puzzles me :)
[23:18] <DrakeJustice_> kubuntunewbie: only a few ppl im tore up on dro right now, so it didn't sink in
[23:18] <kubuntunewbie> DrakeJustice_: hahah, nice bro
[23:18] <RichardBH> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43056/ is the /var/lg/dmesg file
[23:19] <genii> RichardBH: Great :) Reading
[23:19] <eljefe_> yean me also puzzled too.  i wonder if it was "running" and I should have dug for its process?  whatever, we're in business.
[23:19] <RichardBH> genii:  thanks
[23:19] <DrakeJustice_> spacing back out into google now...
[23:20] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, we should have tried to launch it from the CLI , to see what the error output was ..but it works now so....
[23:20] <ubuntu> hi all i want to enable subpixel font smoothing in kubuntu, any ideas?
[23:20] <eljefe_> I had, even with an strace, but nothing.
[23:20] <eljefe_> without strace it just sat there.
[23:21] <kubuntunewbie> what are the chances I could get pokerstars to run on linux?
[23:21] <eljefe_> you tell us!  try it out
[23:21] <KeithF40> there was an error commiting changes possibly ther wsa a prob d/ling some packages or teh commit woudl break packages
[23:21] <KeithF40> could not commit changes-adept manager was the title bar
[23:21] <kubuntunewbie> eljefe_: well it is an exe file and i would not know the first thing about runing an EXE file in linux
[23:21] <eljefe_> next question, how do i get a UUID to help mount drives?
[23:22] <eljefe_> nah, i'll just use the /dev/sdc1 i think, not really needed.
[23:22] <robinson> evening, all
[23:22] <KeithF40> this is the firefox-3.0 package
[23:22] <robinson> running gutsy on my laptop, a compaq v5204nr. I have an occasional "stutter" in response, any ideas on how to get rid of this?
[23:22] <genii> RichardBH: Some clues there. "Cannot allocate resources to slot 5" etc etc. Also your ACPI or APIC is not being seen or setup properly. I would recommend to try a kernel option of pci=routeirq to try and sort out the resources (likely irqs)
[23:23] <robinson> i have 1GB of ram and a 1.5GHz CPU, worked fine on older distros
[23:23] <eljefe_> ah you ARE a newbie then.  To do so, make sure that you have installed Wine; then at a command line (browse to the EXE in Dolphin, hit [F4] to open a terminal there) run "wine pokerstars.exe"
[23:23] <eljefe_> kubuntunewbie: ^^
[23:23] <RichardBH> genii: ok - how would I go about doing that?
[23:23] <kubuntunewbie> eljefe_: thanks a lot.
[23:23] <kubuntunewbie> eljefe_: trying that now
[23:24] <eljefe_> sure
[23:24] <eljefe_> thats why we're all here, to share what we know
[23:25] <KeithF40> gegi you see what i wrote
[23:25] <BluesKaj> robinson, it should run fine with those specs, but it could be a graphics or other hardware driver struggling to keep up, with xorg settings
[23:25] <robinson> strange.. didnt have this stutter with fesity
[23:25] <genii> RichardBH: To test it for a single boot, hit esc at grub. edit the default kernel line that ends something like quiet splash to add in  pci=routeirq then hit enter to save it for that session and b to boot. To make these kinds of changes permanent editing with admin privelege the file /boot/grub/menu.lst for that same kernel line.
[23:25] <MaDiNfO_> does any one knows how can i enable TVout on my GFX board ? _> to watch some movies on my TV ???????????????????????????
[23:26] <ubuntu> hi all i want to enable subpixel font smoothing in kubuntu, any ideas?
[23:26] <kubuntunewbie> jeezus, i am downloading at 1500kB/s
[23:27] <arash_> kubuntunewbie, tss.. that's nothing
[23:27] <genii> KeithF40: OK, close the package manage, and then open up Konsole, from K menu..System. then put into Konsole:     sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install -f -y firefox
[23:27] <kubuntunewbie> arash_: for 30 dollar a month cable modem its pretty sweet
[23:27] <genii> KeithF40: The password it will want is the same as for your normal login
[23:28] <RichardBH> genii: i add in the pci=routeirq after the quiet splash bit?
[23:28] <genii> RichardBH: Or before, makes no difference
[23:28] <RichardBH> ok
[23:28] <arash_> kubuntunewbie: oh, sorry, I was comparing with 'Windows Update' upload speed ;)
[23:28] <RichardBH> hopefully be back in about 10 minutes - thats how long it takes to shut down/boot up
[23:28] <RichardBH> thanks for your help so far if i dont make it back
[23:28] <genii> RichardBH: OK. after the boot see if lspci shows the card then
[23:30] <KeithF40> it said the package is not available but is referred to by another package
[23:30] <kubuntunewbie> eljefe_: oh wow, not in a million years did i expect it to work, but yeah, pokerstars is up and running.  i had no idea it would work.  Is wine pretty flawless?
[23:30] <eljefe_> far from it
[23:30] <eljefe_> but it depends on the app, and its getting pretty good these days
[23:31] <eljefe_> larger apps, like Office 2003 or something, tend to wrok less well
[23:31] <eljefe_> esp if its a MS app, as they like to make it hard
[23:31] <eljefe_> but that is great that you're running!
[23:31] <eljefe_> is it a fun game?
[23:32] <robinson> Running Dreamweaver 8 with no issues using wine :)
[23:32] <eljefe_> what release is Dreamweaver at now tho?
[23:32] <level1__> hi, knetworkmanager is being a little dumb for me, I've had this problem since gutsy beta.  Basically, it deletes elements from knetworkmanagerrc; it seems to have trouble with more than 3 hardware (MAC) addresses being associated with one AP
[23:32] <robinson> 9, i think
[23:32] <eljefe_> eh, not too bad then
[23:32] <level1__> copy in a new knetworkmanagerrc, sometimes it works
[23:32] <robinson> 9 may work, just no need to buy it...
[23:33] <eljefe_> Photoshop is another that doesn't often work well
[23:33] <kubuntunewbie> eljefe_: its a poker site, u can play poker for free against people
[23:33] <eljefe_> i think, i don't use it so no idea
[23:33] <eljefe_> kubuntunewbie: nice
[23:33] <genii> kubuntunewbie: I just did this last week for my friend, no linux pokerstars client. He says all the functions on it work as expected (feisty)
[23:33] <kubuntunewbie> genii: yeah, i could not believe it
[23:35] <kubuntunewbie> ahh this wine application is going to make my break from windows one step closer.
[23:35] <genii> LOL closed Konversation accidentally
[23:36]  * genii goes bleary-eyed to make coffee
[23:37] <cedur> hello
[23:37] <tekteen> hi
[23:37] <eljefe_> aiight, got my new drive installed and working, now i only have 1500GB to worry about backing up ;)  have a good evening peops, off to dinner with my lady
[23:37] <cedur> can someone halp me with installing VMware on ubuntu?
[23:38] <eljefe_> cedur: i don't think its available yet :(
[23:38] <eagles0513875> mornign guys
[23:38] <eljefe_> evenin' ;)
[23:38] <eagles0513875> lol
[23:38] <cedur> well
[23:38] <eagles0513875> eljefe_: i wish i had a lady lucky u
[23:38] <funcrush> good morning
[23:38] <eagles0513875> lol
[23:38] <eagles0513875> morning fun
[23:38] <cedur> good night : P
[23:38] <eagles0513875> lol
[23:38] <funcrush> lol
[23:38] <funcrush> ;)
[23:39] <eagles0513875> i should go to bed and i should be out clubbing right now
[23:39] <cedur> brb
[23:39] <eagles0513875> but i cant seem to get a hole of any of my friends
[23:39] <eljefe_> cedur: you can install from VMWare's site, but when the package is available for install with Adept it'll work/upgrade nicer
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> use virtualbox
[23:41] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, you spend entirely too much time in here to have friends :)
[23:41] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: ull be suprised how many friends i have all i need is a gf
[23:41] <ardchoille> lol
[23:41] <BluesKaj> WE are your friends
[23:41] <cedur> well
[23:41] <eagles0513875> u guys are as well:)
[23:41] <tekteen> anyone know why the kubuntu install cds do not work in qemu
[23:41] <BluesKaj> hehe
[23:41] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: i figured out my problem
[23:41] <eagles0513875> !qemu
[23:41] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[23:41] <cedur> is there a possibility that vmware will run on wine?
[23:42] <tekteen> no
[23:42] <eagles0513875> cedur: just use virtualbox its exactly like vm
[23:42] <tekteen> it is not working
[23:42] <eagles0513875> and its in teh repos
[23:42] <BluesKaj> err if you have vmware , you don't need wine
[23:42] <cedur> Y?
[23:42] <tekteen> ubuntu under ubuntu
[23:42] <RichardBH> genii: no luck :( although i did discover i have 4 or 5 7.10 kernels installed ^o)
[23:42] <eagles0513875> tekteen: i was just looking at it for my info i didnt know what it did
[23:42] <tekteen> ok
[23:42] <tekteen> sorry
[23:42] <eagles0513875> tekteen: there should be virtual box in repos for ubuntu as well
[23:43] <tekteen> next time you should private chat with the box
[23:43] <tekteen> (I have done it)
[23:43] <tekteen> bot*
[23:43] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: i figured out why i couldnt convert my wmas
[23:44] <genii> RichardBH: since the motherboard is also pre 1998 you will need as an option: acpi=force. (scouring the dmesg stuff again)
[23:44] <eagles0513875> whats become of hobbsee i havent talked to her in ages
[23:44] <RichardBH> does it matter that the motherboard may not have acpi?
[23:44] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, think she's busy with her blog etc
[23:45] <cedur> please, god, make a miracle, and make mi shitty-installed wine run this wmvare
[23:45] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: what blog
[23:45] <WindowSmasher> !upgrade
[23:45] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:45] <oficinia> Hi, i need to go to Kubuntu-es
[23:45] <RichardBH> !ES
[23:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:45] <oficinia> Can you tell me how?
[23:45] <oficinia> Thanks
[23:45] <genii> RichardBH: Actually, it does have acpi, it's using some via chip for that actually. But you have to force the kernel to use it, older bios automatically for safety sake the boot process disables it
[23:45] <RichardBH> ah, ok
[23:46] <tekteen> type "/join #kubuntu-es"
[23:46] <eagles0513875> this is going to be a headache debugging this embedded java os that i found and make some upgrades to it
[23:46] <cedur> YES
[23:46] <cedur> its working!
[23:46] <cedur> i can't belive it!
[23:47] <genii> RichardBH: Other notes: If possible to set in the bios of the system, check the pnp on or off settings. On really old boards it might be something like windows95 compatible or not
[23:47] <WindowSmasher> Is there a graphical update manager to upgrade kubuntu?
[23:47] <cedur> crap, its not working.
[23:47] <ignoramus> Is anyone here any good with SynCE?
[23:47] <eagles0513875> none of the girls i like seem to like nerds like me
[23:48] <kubuntunewbie> WindowSmasher: yes, its called adept manager
[23:48] <WindowSmasher> Right, but I have to change all the repos by hand, yes?
[23:48] <kubuntunewbie> WindowSmasher: nope, let me get exactly how to do it for u
[23:48] <RichardBH> genii: what should it be set to if possible?
[23:48] <WindowSmasher> Thank you
[23:48] <oficinia> Hi
[23:48] <eagles0513875> WindowSmasher: u trying to upgrade to gutsy
[23:49] <kubuntunewbie> windows load adept manager go to adept and then go to manage repositories
[23:49] <kubuntunewbie> ^^ WindowSmasher
[23:49] <eagles0513875> *jumps out of a window
[23:49] <ignoramus> Has anyone been able to connect a WM5 device using synce?
[23:49] <genii> RichardBH: If irq assignment is an issue then set the bios NOT to use pnp. Then it will assign an irq to devices on it's own and report those to the OS
[23:49] <RichardBH> ok
[23:50] <WindowSmasher> k
[23:50] <WindowSmasher> I can only jump one version at a time right?
[23:50] <genii> WindowSmasher: Yes
[23:50] <kubuntunewbie> is there currently any sort of itunes software for linux so i can put song on my aidspod from linux?
[23:50] <WindowSmasher> rude
[23:50] <WindowSmasher> kubuntunewbie: banshee
[23:50] <ignoramus> kubuntunewbie: also, sonbird has ipod support
[23:50] <ignoramus> *songbird
[23:51] <WindowSmasher> I always forget about songbird
[23:51] <WindowSmasher> I used it for a while tho
[23:51] <genii> WindowSmasher: If you are trying to upgrade from some version like 5.10 or such, I would say to just back up /home and do a fresh install
[23:51] <ignoramus> WindowSmasher: It's been getting a lot better
[23:51] <WindowSmasher> I'm on 6.06
[23:52] <genii> WindowSmasher: 6.06 to 6.10 is the biggest leap/headache
[23:52] <WindowSmasher> okay
[23:52] <WindowSmasher> I'll use my works' ds3 to download 7.10 then
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> amarok can do it too!
[23:52] <WindowSmasher> haha
[23:52] <Chris7mas> hi
[23:52] <Chris7mas> don't you know, is there a way to mount or convert to iso a nrg image?
[23:52] <ignoramus> WindowSmasher: I actually backed up whatever data, and then just used the 7.10 live cd - a *lot* less headaches
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> Chris7mas: what is an nrg?
[23:53] <WindowSmasher> nrg is a nero file
[23:53] <genii> nrg=nero iso
[23:53] <WindowSmasher> right?
[23:53] <WindowSmasher> yeah
[23:53] <WindowSmasher> ignoramus: okay
[23:53] <Chris7mas> nrg image
[23:53] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: An ISO made by Nero
[23:53] <DaSkreech> it's nearly an ISo
[23:53] <Chris7mas> so can i mount it as iso with sudo mount -o loop?
[23:54] <Chris7mas> i don't have it yet, that's why i'm asking
[23:54] <genii> !info nrg2iso
[23:54] <ubotu> nrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[23:54] <Chris7mas> thankyou very much genii
[23:54] <genii> np
[23:54] <WindowSmasher> thanks all
[23:54] <ignoramus> Chris7mas: I thought you wanted to convert TO .nrg
[23:55] <ignoramus> although i dont know why you would need to
[23:56] <genii> Chris7mas: usage is commandline but simple:   nrg2iso filename.nrg newisoname.iso
[23:57] <FUD> anyone been able to sync a SmartPhone with Kubuntu?
[23:58] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: what do u mean by sync?
[23:58] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: like sync contacts?
[23:58] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: i have a blackberry curve and i can get my data on and off of it with no problem
[23:59] <TheSayers> Hm. Why does kopete crash the system?
[23:59] <kyron> hello all, there seems to be many sources for info on ndiswrapper usage under kubuntu...too many, could anyone point me to a good one applicable to 7.10, thanks!
[23:59] <FUD> kubuntunewbie: i've installed SynCE, but it doesn't connect - it just hangs
[23:59] <FUD> I have an HTC STRTRK