[10:55] <Yvonne> 1 a chiefly British : CUPEL b (1) : a critical examination, observation, or evaluation : TRIAL; specifically : the procedure of submitting a statement to such conditions or operations as will lead to its proof or disproof or to its acceptance or rejection  a test of a statistical hypothesis (2) : a basis for evaluation : CRITERION c : an ordeal or oath required as proof of conformity with a set of beliefs
[10:55] <guestie> Hey guys I just downloaded something (and IRC client) from synaptic but i have no idea how to launch the program... it didnt show up in any of my top menus and I'm a complete linux newb
[10:56] <Silencer> -test-
[10:56] <Silencer> n 1: any standardized procedure for measuring sensitivity or memory or intelligence or aptitude or personality etc; "the test was standardized on a large sample of students"  2: the act of testing something; "in the experimental trials the amount of carbon was measured separately"; "he called each flip of the coin a new trial"  3: the act of undergoing testing; "he survived the great test of battle"; "candidates must compete in a trial
[10:56] <Yvonne> 2 a : a means of testing: as (1) : a procedure, reaction, or reagent used to identify or characterize a substance or constituent (2) : something (as a series of questions or exercises) for measuring the skill, knowledge, intelligence, capacities, or aptitudes of an individual or group b : a positive result in such a test
[10:56] <Yvonne> 3 : a result or value determined by testing
[10:56] <Yvonne> Limit 3 definitions
[10:56] <mluser-laptop> Can someon here give me a tip on how to go about installing mplayer without having to compile it?
[10:56] <RichiH> ompaul: ok, those were more than expected..
[10:56] <comet> wow **scroll**
[10:56] <slimz> comet : so any suggestions?
[10:56] <stuNNed> anyone run ubuntu on ppc w/powerbook 12"?
[10:56] <skippy81> Bladedge:  just right click on your audio files of each different type, and tell them to use XMMS as their default player
[10:56] <sergiol> better:
[10:56] <stuNNed> i'm having troubles  with broadcom driver module, is there cvs for ppc?
[10:56] <comet> slimz: there are some great TV-OUT Howtos under the Ubuntu web forums in the topic
[10:56] <neutrinomass> guestie: What program is it ?
[10:56] <donfilipo> l_r wait a sec let me see my glxinfo...mine 3d works but freezes....but let us see
[10:57] <sergiol> i want to upgrade to gcc v4.1.1
[10:57] <comet> you must follow the instructions properly
[10:57] <sergiol> where can i get it?
[10:57] <slimz> comet : ok thanks ill try looking for them
[10:57] <guestie> neutrino, it's called ircii
[10:57] <ompaul> RichiH, not the way one expected
[10:57] <ompaul> by the way they were kicked for spam :)
[10:57] <comet> slimz: most setups are video-card specific.. everyone has to do something a little different
[10:57] <sergiol> i do not dind the download page in the official site
[10:57] <comet> slimz: feel free to stop back by for additional assistance if you find a good howto
[10:57] <sergiol> i did not find the download page in the official site
[10:57] <ompaul> RichiH, any others?
[10:57] <ompaul> :-)
[10:58] <ompaul> !test
[10:58] <ubotu> Passed.
[10:58] <ompaul> !botsnack
[10:58] <ubotu> :)
[10:58] <Bladedge> skippy81, how
[10:58] <Scorpmoon> When I click the "updates available" icon in systray, I am asked for a password.. IS this password not the same as I chose for my user login?
[10:58] <Scorpmoon> because I am told password is wrong
[10:58] <RichiH> ompaul: think not
[10:58] <ompaul> @test
[10:58] <Bladedge> skippy81, oh got it, thanks :)
[10:58] <skippy81> Bladeedge, just right click on a music file and select properties, then open with
[10:58] <skippy81> :) good
[10:58] <avis> everyone, i notice in dapper the normal sounds that were native to previous version of gnome are no longer existant and i see that the sound adjustment has a bunch of labels a a number of sounds for gnome.  i just want thinks back to the old fashioned way
[10:59] <neutrinomass> guestie: It intentionally doesn't show in the menus because it does not have a GUI (i.e. a "window" and nice graphics). To run it, open up a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal, assuming you are on Ubuntu) and type 'ircii'
[10:59] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: that depends, are you using the user you created when you installed Ubuntu?
[10:59] <Agrajag> Or did you create another one to use?
[10:59] <skippy81> Bladedge:  you will have to do it for each different type ie .ogg .mp3 etc
[10:59] <judah> rackerz: you survived!
[10:59] <donfilipo> l_r you probaly mean dri module whuch says you have the SGI Mesa driver...am i right?
[10:59] <Scorpmoon> Agra, yes, that user
[10:59] <Scorpmoon> only one
[10:59] <guestie> neutrino, it doesn't have a GUI?  i guess thats what it meant by "text based"... and i thought that redundant lol
[10:59] <avis> guestie, you can also drop to console login and run it
[10:59] <Goebels> heil !
[10:59] <Bladedge> Yeah, thanks a lot :)
[10:59] <guestie> can you recommend an IRC client for visual learners
[10:59] <guestie> i dont like gaim for IRC
[11:00] <comet> Konversation isn't bad
[11:00] <skippy81> xchat irc guestie
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> i get failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager "Wrong password"
[11:00] <neutrinomass> guestie: xchat-gnome ? x-chat itself ?
[11:00] <SystemBomber> also whats a good client for MSN
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> please help me
[11:00] <avis> guestie yes xchat-gnome :)  or just xchat :)
[11:00] <Goebels> |  |__   ____ |__|  |   |  |__ |__|/  |_|  |   ___________| |
[11:00] <Goebels> |  |  \_/ __ \|  |  |   |  |  \|  \   __\  | _/ __ \_  __ \ |
[11:00] <Goebels> |   Y  \  ___/|  |  |__ |   Y  \  ||  | |  |_\  ___/|  | \/\|
[11:00] <Goebels> |___|  /\___  >__|____/ |___|  /__||__| |____/\___  >__|   __
[11:00] <Goebels>      \/     \/               \/                   \/       \/
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> do I need to run that with sudo?
[11:00] <Goebels> :))
[11:00] <SystemBomber> ..woah
[11:00] <rackerz> judah: well i think i got somewhere, i did a 'sudo ifup eth0' and when i pinged the msn messenger server it recognised it. but recieve no packets
[11:00] <guestie> kk thanks, ill run and get that then
[11:00] <rackerz> judah: 100% packet loss :(
[11:00] <skippy81> lol i spell a kck
[11:00] <neutrinomass> SystemBomber: I use Gaim ... :)
[11:00] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: it does use sudo, gksudo is what asks for your password there
[11:00] <judah> rackerz: i think they're actually filtering pings.
[11:00] <skippy81> i didnt know you got Nazi geeks lol
[11:00] <SystemBomber> apart from gaim neutrinomass :P
[11:00] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: can you run other programs with sudo from the terminal?
[11:00] <l_r> donfilipo, not sure.. i have problem running games like tuxracer, it's too slow. for some reason my x server does not load any direct rendering module
[11:00] <avis> everyone had my typo disease ! :)
[11:00] <judah> rackerz: same happens for me. but it sounds like it resovled just fine this time.
[11:00] <comet> isn't Goebells a nazi?
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> ill try
[11:00] <avis> has ! had !  hahahah
[11:01] <skippy81> comet, yeah nazi propoganda minister
[11:01] <roc> why I get this kind of error when I'm trying to compile a .cpp file: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[11:01] <rackerz> judah: however aim doesn't resolve. still says it can't find host :(
[11:01] <comet> skippy81: whew.. scary how someone would nick themselves that
[11:01] <Daemonic> anyone here use ess.tv's video streams in Linux?
[11:01] <neutrinomass> l_r: For your information, tuxracer is slow for everybody and has been this way for several years AFAIK
[11:01] <judah> rackerz: ok. which of your two routers did you reboot? both? or just one?
[11:01] <cdubya> quick question, I hope: could I boot the alternate CD and run gparted to resize the ntfs partition without totally wacking it out......?
[11:01] <skippy81> comet: yeah even scarier the sad git spent ages making Nazi asci art :(
[11:01] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:01] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:02] <Scorpmoon> agra, im all new to linux.. tell me a program I could run with sudo
[11:02] <Marineboy> !opensshd
[11:02] <ubotu> Marineboy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:02] <Marineboy> !ssh
[11:02] <Scorpmoon> i dont know where things are at
[11:02] <ubotu> ssh is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[11:02] <skippy81> cdubya: there would be a fair amount of risk involved
[11:02] <rackerz> judah: i just ran a command thats all, i'm going to reboot them now.
[11:02] <cdubya> bummer.
[11:02] <cdubya> :-/
[11:02] <l_r> l_r, ? i remember i could play it without problems
[11:02] <judah> rackerz: on sec.
[11:02] <roc> I love it when you have to solve a problem quicky and no one is willing to help you...
[11:02] <donfilipo> l_r look at the glrxinfo you should see the driver there...if it si silicon graphics mesa then you have so called open ati driver...and must enable dri if you see something else then...we must see what it is
[11:02] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a USB ADSL modem in here ?
[11:02] <mcp> hello
[11:02] <l_r> neutrinomass,  i remember i could play it without problems
[11:02] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: try "sudo touch /"
[11:02] <avis> roc just state the problem if no one answers give it another 10 minutes
[11:02] <guestie> mission accomplished, I'm on xchat now
[11:03] <cdubya> roc, what is the problem
[11:03] <czer323> cdubya> THe only program I've used for paritioning drives is Parition Magic.  I think it works great, but it's not free.
[11:03] <rackerz> judah: is that one sec? or see you in a sec. lol
[11:03] <judah> rackerz: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:03] <skippy81> roc scrolling up you havnt even asked a question for 5 minutes lol
[11:03] <judah> rackerz: can you do that?
[11:03] <neutrinomass> l_r: I have tried it on 3 computers, to no avail :( Maybe I was just unlucky ...
[11:03] <l_r> donfilipo, i have a matrox card. let me see glxinfo for other infos
[11:03] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: if it gives you no error messages it worked
[11:03] <roc> cdubya: why I get this kind of error when I'm trying to compile a .cpp file: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[11:03] <l_r> neutrinomass, yes, i think so
[11:03] <cdubya> roc, what is the command you're issuing to compile?
[11:03] <rackerz> judah: indeed, i can ping it. reciving packets
[11:03] <roc> skippy81: I have asked SEVERAL questions past the prevous five minutes
[11:04] <mandy-o-matic> hallo
[11:04] <rackerz> judah: 16 packets transmitted, 16 received, 0% packet loss, time 15013ms
[11:04] <rackerz> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 94.772/117.430/273.854/47.881 ms
[11:04] <roc> cdubya: gcc <filepath>
[11:04] <guestie> can somebody say my name so i can check something out
[11:04] <Comet> gcc -o
[11:04] <judah> rackerz: ok. that proves that you're having resolv issues with your other devices.. that's the ip address for login.oscar.aol.com
[11:04] <roc> guestie: mha?
[11:04] <judah> rackerz: the aim login server.
[11:04] <Scorpmoon> agra, that works
[11:04] <LeaChim> skippy81, can i pm you?
[11:04] <ompaul> guestie, now if your client highlights your nick so be it
[11:04] <cdubya> roc: try g++ -o output_filename sourcefile
[11:04] <Scorpmoon> then what could be the problem?
[11:04] <Agrajag> roc: if it's a c++ file, use g++, not gcc
[11:04] <guestie> thanks roc... didn't make a sound like id want it to
[11:04] <judah> time for me to go to the gym.
[11:04] <rackerz> judah: i see, so what steps would i need to take to fix the resolve issues? is it likely to be my router?
[11:04] <cdubya> yeah, you need to use g++
[11:04] <skippy81> LeaChim:  of course, you have to be registered to pm though
[11:04] <mandy-o-matic> bitte gib mir helfen wegen intsallieren fr frostwire
[11:05] <roc> guestie: np
[11:05] <TLE> Just installed Dapper(fresh install) only to find out that I have no internet when I boot. Going in network-admin it shows that eth0 is activated (but it does not work), now if I deactivate it and then reactivate it, it works !? I can also make it work with sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0. But on next boot it is the same story. Does anybody have an idea on how to fix this ?
[11:05] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: uh, beats me actually. What happens when you run "gksudo update-manager"?
[11:05] <roc> cdubya: okay trying...
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: it's indeed likely to be your router(s)
[11:05] <nickrud> mandy-o-matic, try #ubuntu-de
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: reboot them. see if it clears..
[11:05] <Scorpmoon> ill try tat
[11:05] <LeaChim> skippy81, if you're not registered you can't join this channel :P
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: then go from there.
[11:05] <rackerz> judah: ok i'll see you soon :)
[11:05] <donfilipo> l_r uuuu sorry i thought you had the ati card as i...well i now nothing about matrox but probably you need the right driver for matrox and enable it in xorg.conf
[11:05] <judah> good luck.
[11:05] <roc> cdubya: g++ command not found
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: i'll be back laterz.
[11:05] <rackerz> thankyou :)
[11:05] <cdubya> roc, then you need to install it
[11:05] <skippy81> LeaChim:  im not registered and im in it :)
[11:05] <cdubya> roc, have you done a build-essential?
[11:05] <rackerz> judah: ok no problem, i'll try catch yiou
[11:05] <Agrajag> roc: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:05] <avis> how do i get ubuntu to manually modprobe my monitor for its correct refresh rates i seemed to have lost that in my notes.
[11:05] <LeaChim> skippy81, interesting. shouldn't be possible
[11:05] <skippy81> LeaChim:  try pming me, i havnt seen anything yet
[11:06] <cdubya> roc, do what Agrajag said. :-) beat me to the punch
[11:06] <czer323> TLE> While i've experienced the issue, after the first time of taking it down, it was fine.  On my second install on the same computer, the issue didnt' exist.  Sorry I can't be of much help.
[11:06] <Scorpmoon> agra, for some odd reason it works now
[11:06] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: that's weird
[11:06] <roc> cdubya: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:06] <roc> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:06] <roc> cdubya: I got those errors...
[11:06] <gnomefreak> roc: close synaptic
[11:06] <Samuli^> Agrajag, are you swedish by any chance?
[11:06] <cdubya> roc, you've got dpkg going somewhere
[11:06] <Agrajag> roc: Are you running synaptic or the update manager?
[11:06] <nf4> has any one got electric sheep to work with 6.06
[11:07] <cdubya> whichever one you're using, you need to close it, roc
[11:07] <Agrajag> Samuli^: only a tiny tiny bit, I'm mostly italian and irish
[11:07] <roc> cdubya: okay now it is updating...
[11:07] <mandy-o-matic> mglichkeit speichern  fr frostwire
[11:07] <cdubya> then issue the command...then follow that with man g++
[11:07] <gnomefreak> !de
[11:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:07] <Samuli^> Agrajag, You live in sweden, though?
[11:07] <Marineboy> !gaim
[11:07] <ubotu> I guess gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[11:07] <Agrajag> no, I live in California
[11:07] <d34db14ck> how can i dail again my pppoe connection if it drops?
[11:07] <daveyj> hello
[11:07] <cdubya> and read the docs there....it will give you alot of insight on the different options for compiling with that command
[11:07] <``666> hi all
[11:07] <neutrinomass> I badly need someone with an Alcatel USB ADSL modem .... thanks .
[11:07] <``666> anybody can help me about ubuntu & ps/2 mice ? i've a laptop with a touchpad, but when i plug the ps/2 mouse in, it doesn't work
[11:07] <TLE> czer323: thanx for your answer. It is wierd though, it works fine on the Live cd !? Oh weel
[11:08] <Samuli^> Agrajag, o-kay, I thought you were someone else, but it's good to see more hitch hikers guide to galaxy fans :P
[11:08] <donfilipo> l_r so if you look in synaptic you should have xserver-xorg-driver-mga installed and under xorg.conf driver section should be mga...i guess
[11:08] <docta_v> ``666: ps/2 mice aren't hot pluggable
[11:08] <Agrajag> Samuli^: indeed
[11:08] <stjepan> is it possible to transform Firefox themes into GTK themes?
[11:08] <mandy-o-matic> #join ubuntu
[11:08] <czer323> TLE> Yeah, i've seen a bucnh of people with the issue.  I just kinda read the channel.  I'm not really that savvy with linux yet. ;)
[11:08] <``666> docta_v: same behaviour with plugging mouse on start
[11:08] <Comet> ``666: if you want to use a PS/2 you're probably gonna have to change the symlink @ /dev/mouse and point it to /dev/psaux
[11:08] <d34db14ck> how can i dail pppoe if it drops?
[11:08] <dunnil> hello
[11:08] <cdubya> neutrinomass, did you ask your question
[11:09] <Comet> but then you're touchpad wont work
[11:09] <nickrud> d34db14ck, how did you set up your pppoe (I hope pppoeconf)
[11:09] <``666> Comet: rm -rf /dev/mouse, ln -s /dev/mouse /dev/psaux ?
[11:09] <Paradosso> has someone experimented problems with gnome volume control in dapper?
[11:09] <Comet> ``666: that should do it ;)
[11:09] <dunnil> guys, what's the best rss reader on ubuntu?
[11:09] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  sure
[11:09] <Comet> then restart X
[11:09] <roc> cdubya: okay now it works, thanks alot... though I don't know if my original problem is solved yet...
[11:09] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  i set it to start on boot
[11:09] <docta_v> ``666: you can also edit your xorg.conf
[11:09] <nickrud> d34db14ck, sudo pon in a terminal
[11:09] <cdubya> roc, np
[11:09] <andax> is there a workaround for the "fgrlx could not register endpoint" bug?
[11:09] <``666> docta_v: and ?
[11:09] <cdubya> roc, what was the original problem
[11:09] <``666> docta_v: what changes i've to do?
[11:09] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  ty
[11:10] <docta_v> ``666: add another pointer that points to /dev/psaux...or change the /dev/mouse one
[11:10] <nickrud> d34db14ck, poff will drop it if you want
[11:10] <kbrosnan> stjepan, you would need to find out if the icons are copyrighted, then unzip the theme and then do the conversion into a gnome theme including creating new icons
[11:10] <``666> oh..
[11:10] <neutrinomass> cdubya: It's not so much of a question. I'm working on getting USB adsl modems work out-of-the-box for Ubuntu, but I only own an Accessrunner :(
[11:10] <``666> well, i will try that one
[11:10] <mandy-o-matic> wegen englisch fr mich bisschen schwer
[11:10] <donfilipo> hello dapper is great only problem with 3d. On Armagetron i got an info that my Radeon 9000 is on AGP 1x and that's sure not good. It should be on 4x. Any idea how to fix the xorg.conf to achieve that?
[11:10] <cdubya> neutrinomass, ah.....
[11:10] <roc> cdubya: It was that I got always an 'undefined reference to <function name>' error when I used the math.h files functions in a C code...
[11:11] <avis> my dsl modem is pure ethernet
[11:11] <neutrinomass> cdubya: Do you own a USB DSL modem ?
[11:11] <cdubya> roc, what func were you calling?
[11:11] <tks> /say ip
[11:11] <roc> cdubya: sqrt and pow
[11:11] <TLE> czer323: Me neither, the funny thing is, that if the ifdown/ifup works every time, then I though that it would be possible to add those commands somewhere in the startup scripts. But it probably isn't that simple since, as you said, there are "many" with this problem
[11:11] <mandy-o-matic> brauche deutsch insallieren von frostwire auf deskopt speichern
[11:11] <neutrinomass> avis: The ethernet ones have no problems :) It's the USB ones that are causing all the headaches ...
[11:11] <cdubya> neutrinomass, no, I was just wondering because I just googled for it
[11:11] <nickrud> I just plugged in my new ethernet dsl modem, and it simply worked. Nice
[11:11] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:11] <``666> docta_v: wtf... I already have a device that points to /dev/psaux. it's the touchpad.
[11:11] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  good to know
[11:11] <sergiol> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelo
[11:11] <sergiol> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelpppppppppppppp
[11:11] <dunnil> anyone here uses RSS Reader on ubuntu?
[11:12] <sergiol> yes
[11:12] <roc> cdubya: the problem goes away if I link any library to it... even opengl library does the job...
[11:12] <sergiol> the Opera Browser
[11:12] <dunnil> what
[11:12] <l_r> donfilipo, server glx vendor string: SGI
[11:12] <roc> cdubya: but it is kind of stupid to link external libraries that you don't even use...
[11:12] <dunnil> what's the best rss reader out there?
[11:12] <Agrajag> roc: getting a bit offtopic, but if you want to use C math.h functions in a C++ program you need to #include <cmath> I think, not math.h
[11:12] <neutrinomass> cdubya: If I owned one I would get it running. But writing stuff for devices you don't own is kinda tricky, you've got to be sure the docs are 100% accurate :)
[11:12] <sergiol> Opera browser for me
[11:12] <sergiol> :P
[11:12] <gnomefreak> sergiol: please stop with the repeat letters
[11:13] <roc> Agrajag: I'm trying to use math.h functions in a C program
[11:13] <nickrud> dunnil, I like liferea, simple but good usability
[11:13] <cdubya> neutrinomass, agreed.
[11:13] <Agrajag> roc: oh ok
[11:13] <avis> i'm glad i had installed XGL as a script.  it does take up a bit of resources.  and i'm on a p4 2.4 with 1 gig ram.
[11:13] <Agrajag> weird then
[11:13] <docta_v> ``666: hmmm...must be a diff device then
[11:13] <docta_v> not sure what
[11:13] <jdmpike> why is firefox holding up /dev/dsp?
[11:13] <MLHelp> I need some bigtime help
[11:13] <cdubya> roc, and you're calling the func correctly and passing the right number of params, right?
[11:13] <roc> cdubya: indeed I am
[11:13] <cdubya> k
[11:13] <nf4> whats the best way to make the cpu temps rise in ubuntu
[11:14] <jdmpike> ohhh - I hate linux sound right now - it is totally getting the best of me
[11:14] <roc> jdmpike: why?
[11:14] <cdubya> roc, did you include it as <math.h> or <cmath> ?
[11:14] <``666> docta_v: well.. i've 2 input pointer devices
[11:14] <roc> cdubya: <math.h>
[11:14] <WildZeck> hi all
[11:14] <cdubya> k
[11:14] <``666> docta_v: one is known as "Configured Mouse" and it points to /dev/input/mice
[11:14] <jdmpike> roc, its inability to mix properly
[11:14] <edgarin> Hi to all I have a problem
[11:14] <nickrud> nf4, run a graphical modelling program or the like
[11:14] <WildZeck> i've got a problem upgrading to dapper
[11:14] <MLHelp> I need a master source list for dapper
[11:14] <MLHelp> the default one
[11:14] <nf4> i have had two sessions of sprime runing while stress was running with 800 cpu hogs  use 1800Mb for 9hrs and temps barely got 42C
[11:14] <MLHelp> keeps screwing up
[11:14] <cdubya> roc, that is kinda weird
[11:14] <MLHelp> for me
[11:14] <avis> how do i get ubuntu to manually modprobe my monitor for its correct refresh rates i seemed to have lost that in my notes.
[11:15] <``666> docta_v: the other one names "Synaptic Touchpad" and points to /dev/psaux
[11:15] <jdmpike> roc, right now firefox has /dev/dsp tied up
[11:15] <edgarin> I have a server with hard disks scsi but.. when the system load the ubuntu shows errors
[11:15] <lordgreg> hi there- i'm just installing JBuilder on my computer and would like to know, if there is any default directory in which i should install jbuilder? installer offers my  /home/user/Borland/JBuilder2005.
[11:15] <edgarin> of SD
[11:15] <donfilipo> l_r that probably means that SGI makes the open drivers for all cards....you need to look in xorg.conf wich driver you have enabled we both have all installed
[11:15] <edgarin> mmm what is this?
[11:15] <eigenlambda> ok how to set what program opens what files in gnome?  its not in preferred applications...
[11:15] <roc> jdmpike: sounds a bit too difficult to me... :D
[11:15] <Unitg1|EoL|> hi guys im having a problem with vlc player specifically the x264 codec ( the image is all artifacted) any alternatives? movie player play the video fine but it has no audio
[11:15] <MLHelp> can someone send me a good master source list
[11:15] <eigenlambda> i would like to use mplayer instead of totem because totem sucks rocks
[11:15] <WildZeck> he told me that /dev/ttyX are missing, and lv2 cannot install !! how to correct that please ?
[11:15] <cdubya> !easysource
[11:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:15] <MLHelp> or paste it in #MLHelp
[11:15] <cdubya> MLHelp
[11:15] <cdubya> ^
[11:15] <WildZeck> that's the problem
[11:15] <MLHelp> I used Source O Matic to generate my CURRENT ONE
[11:15] <nickrud> !sources
[11:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:16] <MLHelp> it still doesn't work
[11:16] <jdmpike> roc, yeah - I don't understand it... It seems like there should be a single process that interacts with the sound card, and all of the other processes talk to it
[11:16] <cdubya> heh
[11:16] <MLHelp> I have read all of that as well
[11:16] <MLHelp> I wouldn't come here without atleast doing some basic research
[11:16] <czer323> !EasyUbuntu
[11:16] <l_r> donfilipo, i think i am near to the solution. basically, the agpgart and drm modules are _NOT_ loaded by any script in ubuntu. now they are, i think restarting the server would be ok. let me try. brb
[11:16] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[11:16] <andax> is there a fix/workaround for the "fglrx could not register entrypoint" bug?
[11:16] <nickrud> MLHelp, the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for dapper
[11:16] <docta_v> ``666: i think it will be /dev/ttyS1 or possibly S2 or S0
[11:16] <docta_v> i'm not sure about that though
[11:16] <roc> jdmpike: well the linux sounds systems have always been a little bit tricky... though it got a little bit better with the dapper release...
[11:16] <``666> hm
[11:16] <czer323> EasyUbuntu will open up your repositorieis to Universe and Multiverse as well.
[11:16] <jdmpike> roc, I am running dapper - I don't think it is better at all
[11:16] <``666> docta_v: could I try with a "cat /dev/ttyS1" command ?
[11:17] <jdmpike> roc, do you know how it is better?
[11:17] <``666> docta_v: moving the mouse...
[11:17] <docta_v> ``666: possibly... i'm pretty sure it'll be one of those ttySX devices
[11:17] <roc> jdmpike: well according to my bro he could hear sounds from multiple sources (apps) and atleast to me the sounds are a bit smoother, maybe a bit filtered now
[11:17] <rackerz> judah:
[11:18] <roc> jdmpike: before it was not possible for multiple sound sources to pass... only one at a time...
[11:18] <Unitg1|EoL|> anyone know how to get video: h.264/avc working on VLC player or audio: MPEG-4 AAC on movie player
[11:18] <rackerz> judah you there?
[11:18] <jdmpike> roc, what are the multiple sources? I can't use beep and another application
[11:18] <roc> Unitg1|EoL|: don't know but mplayer should be able to do that
[11:18] <roc> jdmpike: hmm well then I don't know...
[11:18] <Unitg1|EoL|> roc: video works but no audio
[11:18] <MLHelp> will easy ubuntu alter my sourcelist?
[11:18] <``666> docta_v: nothing... "Input/output error"
[11:19] <``666> i can't "cat"
[11:19] <czer323> MLHelp> i've read that it should.  Check the site.
[11:19] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[11:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[11:19] <roc> roc out... see ya fellas and thanks for yer help ;)
[11:19] <roler> ok I got mp3s going, how can I get wmv's playing? does ubuntu have a codecs package?
[11:19] <Flannel> !tell roler about restrictedformats
[11:19] <Unitg1|EoL|> any idea how to get MPEG-4 AAC audio working on mplayer?
[11:20] <cdubya> roc, it looks like the fix is to link it to the math library itself....I keep seeing those kind of errors related to not linking to the library itself, and they were all solved by adding the -lm at the end of the command
[11:20] <MLHelp> HOLY CRAP, easy ubuntu is my new Lord and Savior
[11:21] <DaveyJ> i cant change my damn refresh rate :(
[11:21] <czer323> Roler> I think EasyUbuntu will do it, but I'm really not sure.  I haven't tried any wmv files.
[11:21] <DaveyJ> its stuck at 75 and i wanna bring it down to 60
[11:21] <luc1fersflowers> i have a particularily odd problem with my ipw2915, it's recognized, says it's working and enabled yet when i go to connect it try's to aquire network info from a subnet of <IP_ADDRESS> not <IP_ADDRESS> any ideas?
[11:21] <cvp> Excuse me, can anyone here help me with hyperthreading issues in Dapper Drake?
[11:21] <AlienX> DaveyJ, sure you can, just edit your xorg.conf
[11:21] <nickrud> DaveyJ, have you looked at !fixres, link below
[11:21] <nickrud> !fixres
[11:21] <mandy-o-matic> wo soll ich finden fr frostwire insallieren ffner
[11:21] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:21] <nickrud> mandy-o-matic,   "  /join #ubuntu-de  "
[11:21] <DaveyJ> !fixres
[11:21] <DaveyJ> ?
[11:22] <WINBALL> ok seriously, It seems like I can't install anything with apt-get, I can't do ./configure or make either
[11:22] <nickrud> DaveyJ, herm, a sec
[11:22] <cvp> can anyone here help me with hyperthreading issues in Dapper Drake?
[11:22] <DaveyJ> i dont even see anything in xorg.conf about refreshrate
[11:22] <bderrly> WINBALL, what are you trying to do?
[11:22] <DaveyJ> also, does it matter i'm using xgl?
[11:23] <nickrud> DaveyJ, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto That howto will apply to XGL also
[11:23] <Fr4ntic> This may sound wierd, but how do I start IRSSI? I have instlled it via Synaptic
[11:23] <czer323> WINBALL> easy question first then, are you using sudo apt-get?
[11:23] <DaveyJ> excellent :) thank you
[11:23] <DaveyJ> i'm gunna go check it out
[11:23] <WINBALL> bderrly install .tar.gz, etc
[11:23] <cdubya> cvp, just ask your question and if someone knows the answer, they'll kick in....:-)
[11:23] <WINBALL> I can execute the files, but no more
[11:23] <czer323> fr4ntic> it's something you want to run from a terminal window.
[11:23] <bderrly> WINBALL, that makes no sense
[11:23] <bderrly> brb
[11:24] <Fr4ntic> czer323, oh :o
[11:24] <WINBALL> bderrly I know
[11:24] <danfg> KDE or Gnome?
[11:24] <WINBALL> gnome
[11:24] <``666> docta_v: no more ideas ? :P
[11:24] <luc1fersflowers> is there a channel for wireless under Dapper Drake
[11:24] <Ademan> Flannel: are there any GUI svn clients like rapidsvn in the ubuntu repositories? or do i hafta install from source?
[11:25] <eigenlambda> ne1 know how to change default apps in gnome?
[11:25] <docta_v> ``666: create a new pointer device with /dev/ttyS1 using the IMPS/2 protocol (assuming it's a wheel mouse otherwise just PS/2)
[11:25] <cvp> I have a P4 processor, and I saw that installing linux kernel 2.6.15-23-686-smp would enable hyperthreading, and when I attempted to install that kernel, I only got 686 (non-smp). I found out later that this was because Ubuntu discontinued the -smp stuff because of security reasons, but it said that hyperthreading can be enabled by booting the kernel with "ht=on" tagged on.
[11:25] <cvp> That being said, how do I about doing that?
[11:25] <docta_v> ``666: if that doesn't work then try S2 then S0
[11:26] <docta_v> you can also try running one of the x autconfig programs
[11:26] <danfg> cvp: boot params are passed on by grub/lilo on startup
[11:26] <docta_v> auto
[11:26] <``666> docta_v: as ?
[11:26] <mandy-o-matic> dagegen windows und linux ubuntu erffnet
[11:26] <czer323> luc1fersflowers> the only thing I can really make a suggestion is to install NetworkManager.  There's a how to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager  it really helped me out.  This is way easier to manage now.
[11:26] <ompaul> !de
[11:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:26] <docta_v> ``666: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:26] <Cin> Hello. I'm having X crashes and I'm trying to find the cause.
[11:27] <Flannel> Ademan: I don't know.  rapidsvn is in repos.  so is esvn, but esvn is poo.
[11:27] <cvp> danfg: right, I tagged on "ht=on" to the end of the kernel string in GRUB, so that it read "vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-686 ro quiet splash ht=on" but that didn't do anything.
[11:27] <docta_v> but you'll have to edit the config manually if that doesn't work
[11:27] <cvp> Do I need to somehow get the *686-smp?
[11:27] <Cin> When it crashes I can move my mouse, and ping my machine from another computer. But I can't do Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, or anything else.
[11:27] <WildZeck> why migrating to dapper when i reboot , everything freeze and i've got no console tty ?
[11:27] <danfg> cvp: sorry i'm a n00b
[11:27] <gnomefreak> mandy-o-matic: #ubuntu-de
[11:27] <cvp> danfg: Thanks for trying, anyway. :)
[11:27] <danfg> !br
[11:27] <StAnLeY^> hey, does anyone know if there is a way to sync iPAQ with ubuntu ?
[11:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:27] <docta_v> cvp: yes you need an smp kernel for hyperthreading
[11:28] <Ademan> thanks Flannel
[11:28] <nickrud> !tell mandy-o-matic about de
[11:28] <danfg> cvp: np
[11:28] <cvp> docta_v: Do you know where I can download one?
[11:28] <czer323> danfg> there's a huge influx of us newbs. :)  Newbs gotta stick together.
[11:28] <Cin> I'm on Xorg7, is this known to be unstable? Or unstable on Dapper?
[11:28] <docta_v> assuming the included one doesn't support it
[11:28] <ompaul> mandy-o-matic, this is an english language channel
[11:28] <danfg> czer323: ubuntu is n00b-friendly :)
[11:28] <docta_v> cvp: apt-cache search image should fine something
[11:28] <cvp> Cin: Xorg7 is far superior.
[11:28] <docta_v> cvp: apt-cache search image|grep smp
[11:29] <delire> hmm, change the panel size and Gnome no longer starts up. anyone else noticed this in Dapper?
[11:29] <Cin> cvp, so I've been told. Can you make any suggestions?
[11:29] <czer323> danfg> Well, i gotta admit, I'
[11:29] <delire> the only fix i can see is to rm or mv the ~/.gconf* directories..
[11:30] <danfg> guys, evolution, kmail or thunderbird?
[11:30] <cvp> docta_v: Output gets kernel-image 2.4.27-2-686-smp as latest... is that too far outdated?
[11:30] <czer323> danfg> Well, i gotta admit, I've installed linux about once a year just to see how far it's progressing.  I couldn't see using it for everday use, but... I'm going to migrate my laptop over to just Dapper now.  And slowly start pushing myself to learn more.
[11:30] <glenn_steen> danfg: thunderbird, always thunderbird
[11:30] <cvp> Cin: What do you need help with? Installing ATI drivers or something?
[11:30] <TMPhillips> I like Thunderbird myself
[11:31] <danfg> czer323: same here, i've tried many times too, this time it's for real :)
[11:31] <docta_v> cvp: yea that's really old...hmm
[11:31] <simonpca> plop
[11:31] <docta_v> cvp: how do you know ht isn't working?
[11:31] <eigenlambda> how can i set the default movie player in gnome to something other than totem?
[11:31] <WINBALL> When ./configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $path
[11:31] <cvp> docta_v: Maybe my sources.list isn't updated...
[11:31] <danfg> glenn_steen, TMPhillips: ever tried one of the other two?
[11:32] <eigenlambda> i looked in the System menu, I looked in gconf-editor...
[11:32] <Samuli^> WINBALL, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:32] <eigenlambda> wheres the commands to do that?
[11:32] <WINBALL> Samuli^ Doesn't work
[11:32] <Samuli^> WINBALL, you need the compiler to compile.
[11:32] <TMPhillips> Yes, I'd rate Evo #2, Kmail #3
[11:32] <cvp> docta_v: Well, for one thing, when I don't have ht enabled, the processer usage doohickey always tells me I'm using 50% of my CPU constantly. I have also had absolutely no significant boosts in performance when trying to enable HT, so I know my attempts were futile.
[11:32] <czer323> Danfg> I come here and just sit sometimes watching people's issues.  I'm picking up a lot of info just by reading.  It's fantastic.
[11:32] <WINBALL> Couldn't find package build-essential
[11:33] <bullrage> Same applies for me czer323
[11:33] <Flannel> WINBALL: what repositories do you have?
[11:33] <nickrud> eigenlambda, right click a movie file, select properties at the bottom of the menu, then in the dialog click open with to change filetypes permanently
[11:33] <danfg> czer323: cool :)
[11:34] <glenn_steen> danfg: Yes, vey many times.... Thunderbird comes of lean (compared to evolution) and featurecomplete (and functional, compared to kmail:-). I had a spat of loving Sylpheed-claws, but that passed:-)
[11:34] <cvp> docta_v: I started off with kernel 383, and upon upgrading to 686 I have noticed zero performance boosts. That and I'm unable to get any kind of -smp kernel, so I know I don't even have the OPTION yet to enable ht.
[11:34] <StAnLeY^> so, does anyone know of a good way to sync iPAQ with ubuntu ?
[11:34] <``666> docta_v: unfortunately, the reconfig did not take success
[11:34] <cvp> docta_v: I strongly suspect that my sources.list is outdated or something, but a sudo apt-get update doesn't help things.
[11:34] <eigenlambda> nickrud: thanks...
[11:34] <_bgh_> hi all
[11:35] <jan__> Hello, i've got a big problem with my dapper dake... there is always an error:automatix-de hngt ab von python-wxgtk2.6; aber:
[11:35] <jan__>   Paket python-wxgtk2.6 bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert.
[11:35] <jan__>  can anyone help me?
[11:35] <nickrud> eigenlambda, changing file associations is not my favorite part of gnome :)
[11:35] <SurfnKid> well finally I can get online
[11:35] <Flannel> cvp: are you on dapper?
[11:35] <cvp> jan__: This is an english channel.
[11:35] <czer323> !de
[11:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:35] <cvp> Flannel: Yes.
[11:35] <SAM_theman> My GAme Sound FInally WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[11:35] <bootlick> Hi all, How does one run dual monitors, simple as plugging in another video card?
[11:35] <dxdemetriou> Can I make recheck for the mouse without reboot? I have kvm, and some times the mouse doesn't works ok
[11:35] <SAM_theman> THATS ubutnu 6.06
[11:35] <IGD_> Hey there, anyone know what the best language to code in lunux is for GUI. kind of offtopic i know but this is the only linux community im familiar with
[11:35] <Flannel> cvp: then all the kernels are SMP
[11:35] <SAM_theman> All my Sounds Works
[11:35] <_bgh_> small problem with my clean 6.06 install... I get a "Cannot Display This Video Mode" message right before the login screen
[11:35] <Flannel> IGD_: so, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[11:36] <cvp> Flannel: Oh, wow. Really?
[11:36] <mathieu_> IGD_: there's no such thing as 'best'
[11:36] <IGD_> flannel: thanks flannel
[11:36] <zukalk> do i really have to use totem-xine if i want to watch dvds?
[11:36] <Flannel> cvp: yeah, as of dapper all kernels are SMP, because there's no performance hit on non SMP procs
[11:36] <TMPhillips> Am having trouble with crosscompiler i386 on AMD64 platform.
[11:36] <cvp> Flannel: Cuz I know I didn't have any hyperthreading junk back in Warty, and I have absolutely no boost in performance now that I'm in dapper and using kernel 686.
[11:37] <cvp> Flannel: So I think I'm going about enabling hyperthreading incorrectly... :/
[11:37] <danfg> glenn_steen, TMPhillips: thanks for the input :)
[11:37] <guest42> Hey folks. I know this problem has come up quite a bit, but I'm having trouble with watching MPEGS, despite following various sets of instructions I've found/
[11:37] <glenn_steen> _bgh_: probably your monitor rejecting a mode. Just ignore it;-)
[11:37] <cvp> Flannel: A security update for Ubuntu said that they were disabling ht by default, and that I have to run some sort of parameter to enable ht again, and I'm pretty n00bish still...
[11:38] <`Boo`> hello, for wine, if i have an XP partition mounted at /mnt/ntfs1, can i set that as the "drive_c" for wine?
[11:38] <_bgh_> glenn: I was afraid someone would say that =(
[11:38] <czer323> !ubotu
[11:38] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me.   I'm trying to get Lirc working, and I have it compiled and my modules in and everything... I'm just having one little tiny problem with the init.d file.  It won't start lircd on boot!
[11:38] <vbn> #join /ubuntu-fr
[11:38] <xpc> hi
[11:38] <xpc> !hu
[11:38] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[11:38] <NoUse> `Boo` I don't think so
[11:38] <`Boo`> Why not?
[11:38] <paradizelos1> my logs are getting flooded with VFS:busy inodes changed on media
[11:39] <`Boo`> does wine require write access?
[11:39] <NoUse> `Boo` yes
[11:39] <cvp> Flannel: Er... lemme find a URL for you.
[11:39] <mitrovarr> Since I had to make my own init file (which I have absolutely no idea how to do) I'm wondering if I have to do something in the init file to launch 'lircd' as root, beyond simply putting the command at the end of the file.
[11:39] <`Boo`> if i used the ntfs write capability, would it work?
[11:39] <reydeluniverso> hola
[11:39] <cvp> Flannel: I mean, there's the news story: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/05/13/HNintelexpose_1.html?source=rss&url=http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/05/13/HNintelexpose_1.html
[11:39] <_bgh_> glenn: The wierd part is that I'm using the exact same hardware configuration as my 5.10 install and I didn't get that message before
[11:40] <AJ004> does ubuntu come with a screensaver with a picture of satellite imagery with clouds?
[11:40] <soundray> mitrovarr: is there a /etc/default/lirc perhaps that prevents it?
[11:40] <paradizelos1> soundray: yes
[11:40] <AlienX> AJ004, probably not
[11:40] <paradizelos1> soundray: that was for AJ004
[11:40] <NoUse> `Boo` if you have a backup of all the stuff on your NTFS drive, you can try, but I don't know, probably more of a question for the wine people
[11:40] <mitrovarr> no... and I can do 'sudo lircd' on boot and it works fine.
[11:40] <AlienX> paradizelos1, it does? where?
[11:40] <paradizelos1> AJ004: yes it does
[11:40] <mitrovarr> it just won't do it automatically on boot
[11:40] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  It does?  what is the name of it?
[11:40] <Flannel> cvp: right, but where did you read about them disabling by default?
[11:40] <paradizelos1> AlienX: it showed up on a default install
[11:40] <mitrovarr> has to be launched by root so I can't just put it in my x startup file
[11:40] <paradizelos1> as default screensaver
[11:41] <NoUse> `Boo` ntfs write support isn't safe yet
[11:41] <soundray> mitrovarr: how about 'sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start' after booting -- does that bring it up?
[11:41] <`Boo`> k
[11:41] <AlienX> paradizelos1, hmm interesting. I've never seen a linux screensaver that showed satellite imagery. I'll have to check it out :)
[11:41] <cvp> Flannel: Lemme do the digging through Google that I did last night...
[11:41] <`Boo`> is cedega free?
[11:41] <NoUse> `Boo` no
[11:41] <cvp> `Boo`: No.
[11:41] <TMPhillips> I am compiling WINE on an AMD64, have followed many web guides, and am still unable to get past unicode trying to use the 64bit libraries. Have setup /use/lib32, and specified as prefix to configure, ... No luck. Anyone have guidance for actually forcing the 32bit libs to be used for unicode as I get nearly to the end of compile. I can't use .deb. TIA
[11:41] <paradizelos1> AlienX: well, it shows a sattelite agains the earth
[11:41] <`Boo`> dern :(
[11:41] <profoXP> not 'really'
[11:41] <jelkner> Heya, I just was apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and now I get, when first booting the kernel, "Kernel Exception in Interrupt"....
[11:41] <mitrovarr> I doubt that'll work at all since I made the init file and it's just a list of commands
[11:41] <reid> when I ./configure CEGUI i get this error: checking for freetype2... configure: error: Package requirements (freetype2 >= 0.15.0) were not met.
[11:41] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  Its not in the screensaver preferences
[11:41] <mitrovarr> it doesn't have start/stop/reload sections like a real one since I don't know how to make anything that complicated
[11:42] <pianoboy3333> What file references /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[11:42] <mitrovarr> that I got lirc working (considering the less than useless nature of the packages in synaptic) is a miracle.
[11:42] <nickrud> mitrovarr, you might consider adding those lines to the end of /etc/rc.local
[11:42] <paradizelos1> cosmos
[11:42] <profoXP> `Boo`, you can download it *illegally* // but you can also just download cvscedega, the CVS version, it has a few features missing due to restrictions, like copy protection decrypter and stuff like that, and you have to build it from source, but it's legally free this way
[11:42] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  thanks
[11:42] <davers> hello?
[11:42] <paradizelos1> i think
[11:42] <profoXP> `Boo`, Wine is also worth a try
[11:42] <andrejkw> Hey guys
[11:42] <soundray> mitrovarr: in that case, I suggest you run those commands from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[11:42] <davers> is it possible to set the main toolbar back to default?
[11:42] <feg> hello, it seems that gnomebaker depends on gstreamer0.8, but dapper comes with gstreamer0.10 . apt-get install gnomebajer tells me that it want to install 0.8. is it safe? is it a problem to have both 0.8 and 0.10 installed?
[11:42] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  No it wasnt the cosmos
[11:42] <cvp> Flannel: Ohhhh, haha, I happened to not notice the "this vulnerability affects Warty and Hoary."
[11:42] <`Boo`> wine doesnt like steam :(
[11:42] <nickrud> soundray, there's actually an rc.local to recommend now :)
[11:42] <reid> anyone know what that error means??
[11:42] <cvp> Flannel: Alright, fine. Well poo.
[11:42] <crimsun> soundray: (or in Dapper, /etc/rc.local)
[11:42] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  It was a PICTURE of a satellite and a cloud formation
[11:42] <andrejkw> I get an error about missing libgdk-1.2.so.0, in which package can I find this file?
[11:43] <paradizelos1> AJ004: yes
[11:43] <soundray> nickrud: oh, thanks...
[11:43] <paradizelos1> it's in there
[11:43] <crimsun> andrejkw: install libgtk1.2
[11:43] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  Cosmos only shows space
[11:43] <Flannel> cvp: right, SMP is already enabled in the kernel, so if your proc supports it, it's working.
[11:43] <TMPhillips> Anybody actually compile WINE on AMD64 here?
[11:43] <soundray> mitrovarr: I take it back and concur with nickrud and crimsun
[11:43] <paradizelos1> AJ004: there are earth pictures in there
[11:43] <cvp> Flannel: It was late and I didn't have my coffee. But anyway, I still suspect that I for some reason don't have hyperthreading, because my CPU monitor is telling me that it's constantly being used at 50%.
[11:43] <``666> how to restart X11 without restarting the pc ?
[11:43] <nickrud> soundray, I thought that was a nice adaptation on ubuntu's part. I hated giving that bootmisc.sh advice
[11:43] <AJ004> paradize it wasnt the same
[11:43] <avis> how do i get ubuntu to manually modprobe my monitor for its correct refresh rates i seemed to have lost that in my notes.
[11:44] <cvp> Flannel: That and everything in Ubuntu is far slower for me than in WinXP.
[11:44] <soundray> nickrud: is it the same otherwise?
[11:44] <AJ004> it was an image moving on the screen and an ACTUAL PICTURE OF AN ORBITING SATELLITE
[11:44] <WINBALL> ok wtf I need to eat too
[11:44] <mitrovarr> just append those commands to the end of 'bootmisc.sh'?  (before the exit 0 I mean)
[11:44] <nickrud> soundray, for all practical purposes, yes
[11:44] <soundray> mitrovarr: no, /etc/rc.local (sorry)
[11:44] <cvp> Flannel: Is there at least any way I can check to see if I have hyperthreading enabled? That would pretty much solve it for me...
[11:44] <Flannel> cvp: well, there is a method to figure out how many procs you 'have
[11:44] <pianoboy3333> What file references /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[11:44] <Flannel> cvp: 'have' but, I don't recall the command
[11:44] <soundray> Thanks nickrud
[11:44] <mitrovarr> ok, I'll try that, thanks!
[11:44] <glenn_steen> _bgh_: Hmmm, details.... Do you specify any modes in xorg.conf?
[11:45] <soundray> pianoboy3333: the grub bootloader (the part that goes in the mbr)
[11:45] <mitrovarr> I really wish they'd fix the module-using packages in synaptic... things like lirc, truecrypt don't work at all that way.
[11:45] <czer323> is there a particular protocol for linux that allows for multiple audio streams that I should be chosing from now on?
[11:45] <danfg> `Boo`: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam
[11:45] <pianoboy3333> soundray: hmmm, is there a way to edit that file?
[11:45] <mitrovarr> especially if you don't use the default kernel
[11:45] <pianoboy3333> soundray: is it a file?
[11:45] <paradizelos1> pianoboy3333: yes, you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:45] <_bgh_> glenn: my xorg.conf -> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=132
[11:45] <cvp> Flannel: ...is there any chance you could remember it easily, or should I go hunting for it online?
[11:45] <javiolo> hi
[11:45] <davers> is it possible to set the main toolbar back to default?
[11:45] <AJ004> paradizelol:  the image doesnt appear to be part of that screensaver
[11:45] <andrejkw> Is there any way to hide the vmware-toolbox window?
[11:45] <reid> can anyone please help me with a compile error when I try to install CEGUI????
[11:45] <paradizelos1> pianoboy3333: no, it's the first 512 bytes of the hard drive IIRC
[11:45] <Flannel> cvp: Me? no.  someone here might though.
[11:45] <paradizelos1> AJ004: k. it's in there somewhere
[11:46] <soundray> pianoboy3333: it isn't a file, but you can always go back to the source and change it if you're courageous.
[11:46] <cvp> Flannel: Thanks for all your help, by the way. :)
[11:46] <soundray> pianoboy3333: what are you trying to do?
[11:46] <paradizelos1> AJ004: i know which one you are talking about, and my SS was set to random
[11:46] <AJ004> paradizelosl: is there any screenshots in the screensavers of the OUTSIDE of a satellite with cloud formations?
[11:46] <paradizelos1> AJ004: yes
[11:46] <czer323> is there a particular protocol for linux that allows for multiple audio streams that I should be chosing from now on?  Audio stream as in, on the same computer from different aps.
[11:46] <javiolo> is there any app in linux like the mac os x SAY ? to read text and output
[11:46] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:46] <paradizelos1> AJ004: i don't know where they are, but i've seen the one's you are thinking of
[11:46] <pianoboy3333> soundray: paradizelos1: that's it? I installed fedora to an external drive, something is still unconfigured... it won't boot right, but I think I need to fill in that it has to boot /dev/sdb1 somewhere else
[11:46] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  It was a silver colored satellite
[11:46] <lunahood> is there anyone, using ubuntu with krusader and working access to smb-shares ?
[11:47] <und3rtug4> Hi there!
[11:47] <AJ004> you know, what the weather satellites look like in reality
[11:47] <paradizelos1> !usb
[11:47] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelos1
[11:47] <AJ004> that silvery material
[11:47] <davers> is it possible to set the main toolbar back to default?
[11:47] <Flannel> davers: what do you mean?
[11:47] <paradizelos1> pianoboy3333: there are special things you have to do to get the system to boot to an external usb drive
[11:47] <javiolo> is there any app in linux like the mac os x SAY ? to read text and output
[11:47] <_bgh_> glenn: oops.. url is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1103824#post1103824
[11:47] <AJ004> paradizelosl its showing images but not that one
[11:47] <pianoboy3333> paradizelos1: such as?
[11:47] <mitrovarr> still doesn't work... it doesn't start automatically but works if manually launched
[11:47] <guest42> I really need help gettin' XMMS to play MPEGS. I've tried several things, and it just doesn't seem to play
[11:47] <paradizelos1> google it
[11:47] <bullrage> WOW, Listen Media Player rules
[11:47] <paradizelos1> i don't know off hand
[11:47] <AJ004> the only one even remotely close was of clouds but it wasnt related
[11:47] <andrejkw> Is there any way to hide a window of an application by passing on some kind of a parameter
[11:47] <andrejkw> ?
[11:47] <pianoboy3333> paradizelos1: thanks...
[11:47] <avis> pianoboy3333, its as simple as modifing your bios boot order
[11:48] <blather> hi.
[11:48] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:48] <paradizelos1> avis no it isn't
[11:48] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default? I accidentally removed te "System", "Applications", taskbar.. etc and now i can't get them back
[11:48] <cvp> bullrage: Is it open source?
[11:48] <paradizelos1> in uubntu you have to re-do your initrd image
[11:48] <soundray> javiolo: text2wave in the festival package
[11:48] <pianoboy3333> avis: I'm not trying to boot off of it, I'm trying to get it to load, the former I can do
[11:48] <blather> in ubuntu dapper, evolution comes with microsoft exchange as a selectable account type.  when i install evolution in kubuntu, the option is missing.  anyone know how i would go about enabling that?
[11:48] <czer323> javiolo> I've heard of something called festival, but... I'm sketchy on any details.
[11:48] <avis> sorry
[11:48] <kbrooks_> how do i clear the MBR?
[11:49] <cvp> kbrooks_: Are you sure that's a good idea?
[11:49] <javiolo> thanks ppl!
[11:49] <czer323> festival is a multi-lingual speech synthesis system with various APIs, as well as an environment for development and research of speech synthesis techniques, or free software as of version 1.4.0, or http://cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/
[11:49] <guest42> Do I need gstreamer0.8-plugins to play MPEGS? 'Cause I tried getting it, and I got a Broken file error...
[11:49] <reid> anyone help me with a freetype2 error????
[11:49] <gnomefreak> kbrooks_: does fixmbr work in ubuntu?
[11:49] <kbrooks_> cvp: MBR...not hard drive
[11:49] <soundray> kbrooks_: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 (your hd won't boot after that)
[11:49] <``666> docta_v: can i query u ?
[11:49] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: I don't use Windows
[11:49] <javiolo> czer323 thanks
[11:49] <cvp> kbrooks_: I know. Are you SURE you want to clear that thing?
[11:49] <DaveyJ> that didnt work.. but i got it myself ;)
[11:49] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: and havent needed to
[11:49] <soundray> kbrooks_: (and no guarantees about your partition table and data ;) )
[11:49] <gnomefreak> kbrooks_: thats why i asked if it worked in ubuntu
[11:49] <DaveyJ> the auto-check refreshrate was checked off
[11:50] <DaveyJ> so everytime i changed it, it went back
[11:50] <DaveyJ> durr
[11:50] <bullrage> cvp, I meant Listen Music Player. I presume so, it runs on ubuntu.
[11:50] <avis> i have a question.  i just installed the latest 686 kernel and headers.  it instalelled from the dapper cd.  i'm not getting a prompt to reboot.  how do i make the kernel default ?
[11:50] <reid> anyone please??
[11:50] <cvp> bullrage: Is it better than xmms and gxine?
[11:50] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:50] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: i assume it's Windows only. and anyway, the idea of a fixmbr would be hmmm a bit flawed
[11:51] <nickrud> davers, you can add the app-places-system thingo back to the top menu bar by right clicking the menu bar, select Add to Panel, and click Main Menu
[11:51] <soundray> avis: it should set /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot the new kernel automatically. You can run 'sudo update-grub' to be sure.
[11:51] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default? I accidentally removed te "System", "Applications", taskbar.. etc and now i can't get them back
[11:51] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: the concept only works with one bootlader
[11:51] <avis> thank you
[11:51] <andi5> hi... is nautilus crashing for anyone else when rightclicking the computer icon on the desktop and choosing properties?
[11:51] <AJ004> hello
[11:51] <kbrooks_> andi5: dapper?
[11:51] <andi5> kbrooks_: yep
[11:51] <czer323> anid5> out of curiousity, how did you get teh computer on the deskop?  I've been trying for awhile now.... :-x
[11:52] <reid> anyone help with a compile error???
[11:52] <andi5> czer323: i do not know... it is there ;-) will try to find out how :)
[11:52] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default?  I've taken a screenshot for you, http://www.bullrage.com/listen.png
[11:52] <kbrooks_> sn00p: its in universe
[11:53] <nickrud> czer323, andi5 in gconf-editor, apps/nautilus/desktop/computer_icon_visible
[11:53] <sn00p> How do I p ut universe in my sources.list?
[11:53] <kbrooks_> sn00p: enable the Universe repository, and install the "xchat" package
[11:53] <cvp> bullrage: Oh wow. Thank you. It looks pretty cool.
[11:53] <Selaiah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15211 Someone care for a look at my network settings? My Wlan isnt connecting.
[11:53] <nickrud> davers, didn't adding it with the right click work?
[11:53] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default? I accidentally removed te "System", "Applications", taskbar.. etc and now i can't get them back
[11:53] <soundray> davers: right click the panel, select Add to Panel, then it's Utilities - Menu Bar
[11:53] <kbrooks_> sn00p: you don't. it's already there.
[11:53] <andi5> nickrud: right, i will have activated in one of my gconf travels :)
[11:53] <kbrooks_> !universe
[11:53] <sn00p> I cant f ind regular xchat then
[11:53] <davers> hrmm..
[11:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:53] <davers> i'll try that
[11:53] <kbrooks_> sn00p: read that
[11:54] <soundray> davers: you're welcome ;)
[11:54] <Maynoth> what is the next version of ubuntu going to be called
[11:54] <soundray> !edgy
[11:54] <nickrud> edgy eft
[11:54] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[11:54] <davers> hey that worked
[11:54] <kbrooks_> sn00p: by "already there", i mean: it's in, but not enabled
[11:54] <SurfnKid> edgy wedgy
[11:54] <czer323> nickrud> super sweet, thanks.
[11:54] <SurfnKid> :P
[11:54] <davers> but how come i still don't have a taskbar?
[11:54] <andi5> czer323: can you test that for me then?
[11:54] <nickrud> davers, add it back, same routine
[11:54] <soundray> davers: you
[11:54] <kbrooks_> !universe
[11:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:54] <glenn_steen> _bgh_: Sorry, that didn't seem to work... And the wife starts mumbling about the dishes, so ... another time:-). Check if you have any "extreme" modes and simply remove them... You do see the bootup sequence? Oh well, gotta run...
[11:54] <soundray> ...too slow...
[11:55] <Flannel> davers: add it, with "add to panel"
[11:55] <netdur> sometimes scrolling on firefox act like pressing "back"
[11:55] <_bgh_> glenn: thanks anyways.. have fun =p
[11:55] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:55] <netdur> how to fix it?
[11:55] <skippy81> does anyone know how i can get a framebuffer graphic running accross my console when im not in xwindows please? Gentoo style :)
[11:55] <soundray> netdur: I've got that problem, it drives me nuts. No solution so far :(
[11:55] <assasukasse> hi all when will edgy eft be released?
[11:55] <soundray> !edgy
[11:55] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[11:56] <czer323> andi5> just did. it works for me just fine when right clicking "computer' and then properties.
[11:56] <KevLee> hello - can anyone help a newbie
[11:56] <KevLee> I'm trying to install no-ip but can't find 'make' : make not found ???
[11:56] <nickrud> already it's edgy, edgy, edgy. Dapper isn't even cold yet
[11:56] <mitrovarr> I wish they'd pick better names
[11:56] <andi5> czer323: is see....
[11:56] <andi5> czer323: thanks though :)
[11:56] <AJ004> is there a screensaver in ubuntu which shows a picture of an actual satellite and cloud formations?
[11:56] <AJ004> i looked at the cosmos dataset but it didnt have one with a picture of an actual satellite
[11:56] <mitrovarr> the solution to the lirc thing was so stupid...  I get messages saying the default ALSA device is busy, or access denied.
[11:57] <nickrud> davers, try adding the notification area
[11:57] <Flannel> mitrovarr: edgy will be 6.10, not 7.
[11:57] <soundray> mitrovarr: you *clearly* haven'
[11:57] <chrisn> Suffice it so say, I also have no sound functionality
[11:57] <mitrovarr> I'm sure something better than edgy eft (whatever the hell an eft is) could be thought of
[11:57] <soundray> t caught up with the Ubuntu spirit ;)
[11:57] <davers> nickrud: i did but it still doesn't show
[11:57] <mitrovarr> the names for the last versions all sucked too.  Who the hell still says dapper?
[11:57] <sn00p> uhh, I added universe to the repository but it still s ays xchat-gnome
[11:58] <soundray> mitrovarr: answers.com too far away for you?
[11:58] <stefano> hello everybody, a question: on ubuntu dapper for amd64 is openoffice present?
[11:58] <AJ004> nickrud i was wondering if someone put a screenshot there
[11:58] <nickrud> davers, I don't use azureas so that's about all I can say then, sorry
[11:58] <andi5> mitrovarr: why not 6.12?
[11:58] <soundray> stefano: yes
[11:58] <czer323> AJ004> Flipscreen3d has a pic of a satellite, but I don't know if it's live.
[11:58] <AJ004> or if it was an actual screensaver in ubuntu
[11:58] <davers> nickrud, thanks for all of your help
[11:58] <cory> is it possible to have an nvidia an an ati card installed and working at the same time? I have a 3-monitor setup and i need to add another video card. the only one i have laying around right now is an ati.
[11:58] <AJ004> ill check out flipscreen3d
[11:58] <mitrovarr> whatever I'm just saying that a number is better than the wierd name they're using now, and I'm sure a good name could be thought of
[11:58] <jikbag> anyone know of a way to auto logout users after a period of inactivity?
[11:58] <stefano> soundray: great. how is it possible (I knew there were some bad bugs)
[11:58] <DaveyJ> is it possible to use multiple monitors with xgl?
[11:58] <Selaiah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15211 Someone care for a look at my network settings? My Wlan isnt connecting.
[11:58] <mitrovarr> it's not the worst name used in open source (a title proudly held by the GIMP) but it could be improved on
[11:58] <AJ004> yeah it was flipscreen3d
[11:58] <AJ004> thanks :)
[11:58] <nickrud> mitrovarr, the names are fun and meant for developers. The releases have numbers
[11:59] <AJ004> you helped me figure it out
[11:59] <czer323> Selaiah> Just curious... It authentictes, but doesn't get an IP?  Have you tried to configure using a static IP?
[11:59] <andi5> czer323: there is gtweakui too
[11:59] <soundray> stefano: it's using 32bit libraries afaik
[11:59] <Subhuman> DaveyJ, not with the current API. but all xgl should be in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:59] <Selaiah> czer323, I'm using a static IP.
[11:59] <jjazz> KevLee: You need to install the make package
[11:59] <Subhuman> DaveyJ, it will in time.
[11:59] <AJ004> in flipscreen3d its showing a brown ubuntu screen
[11:59] <stefano> soundray: it sound good. is wine present (using the same manner) or do you need (as debian) a separate chrooted env?
[12:00] <mitrovarr> I suppose that's true they released drake as 6.06 LTS... which is boring but not terrible.
[12:00] <jikbag> anyone know of a way to auto logout users after a period of inactivity?
[12:00] <soundray> netdur: with workarounds! Thank you for that.
[12:00] <AJ004> theres a satellite image in there too?


[00:03] <Seannie> thanks sarnold. I feel a lot better now.
[00:03] <sarnold> you're welcome Seannie :) have  a good weekend
[00:10] <lkthomas> hey guys, if I want to setup nfs server as public share folder, what should I aware for the permission part ?
[00:13] <RiotBlasto__> I actually prefer Open Media Vault over Ubuntu for NFS, at least for personal use.
[00:14] <lkthomas> RiotBlasto__: we are running single sign on, and we need to do something special on NFS server itself
[00:23] <RiotBlasto__> @lkthomas: I haven't setup an nfs in 3 or 4 years so don't remember. NFS servers are usually simple setup and go with minor changes.    If you haven't gone through this yet already, check out the link below. You should be good if you cover everything in it + all the resources linked in there:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[04:54] <Phibs> is there an elegant way to get the dpkg -l output to show me what repo the package was installed from
[05:27] <lkthomas> Phibs: there is something call apt policy..etc, maybe Google it
[05:28] <Phibs> yeah, I wanted a single cmd
[05:28] <Phibs> found that though, thanks
[05:38] <lkthomas> :)
[07:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:15] <zune^> hey anyoner who is has used a nis setup on multiple vm's with ubuntu in a home envirement.
[09:54] <Castbound> hello, I have Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l , is it possible to upgrade from command line without reimage?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Castbound
[14:41] <tiblock> Hi. When shellshock was discovered, i upgraded and rebooted mine 3 servers, but then second update released, i again installed and rebooted mine servers with online users on it, now i see new update. Do i need repeat it again?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> tiblock, yes
[14:42] <Thumpxr> Is there a way to automount multiple smb:// shares at boot/logon? User/Password protected.
[14:42] <Thumpxr> damn wrong channel
[14:43] <tiblock> cfhowlett, can i see test exploit to see how it works for second update?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> tiblock, over my of understanding.  the 2nd patch fixed the shortcomings of the 1st patch, as I understand it.
[14:45] <tiblock> cfhowlett, but now 2nd patch hacked too and now heres is 3rd patch. Where i can get exploit for 2nd patch to test it on other linux distros?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> tiblock, I don't know such things.  sorry.
[14:46] <cfhowlett> tiblock, ##linux would probably know
[14:46] <tiblock> Here is exploit for second patch if somebody need to test http://pastebin.com/2RMmjpCh it will execute "echo date" if it works
[14:48] <tiblock> *for first patch
[15:50] <bilde2910> Hi! My 14.04 server doesn't want to apt-get upgrade. This is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441170/ - given the "gzip: stdout: No space left on device", here's the output of df: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441181/ - any help on this? I'm afraid to restart my system in fear that it might not boot.
[15:53] <bilde2910> /boot seems to be filled with a lot of old files, but can I delete any of them safely? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441203/
[15:54] <cfhowlett> bilde2910, yes.  sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:54] <cfhowlett> bilde2910, that will remove all but the two most recent kernels
[15:55] <bilde2910> Thank you, cfhowlett, I will try that
[15:55] <cfhowlett> bilde2910, also         sudo apt-get clean will clean out your .cache of downloaded .debs
[16:02] <bilde2910> This worked great! Saved my day
[16:02] <bilde2910> Thanks
[16:24] <Norlander> Anyone knowledgeable in ubuntu-vm-builder error messages? I don't
[16:24] <Norlander> understand why the creation of my VM guest is failing... :S
[21:08] <iDealz> Anyone have any experience with recovering a RAID 5 array with one failed drive using MDADM?  It asks me if I want to boot into a degraded raid environment but whether I hit y/N it seems to do the same thing.  Loads an initramfs prompt
[21:09] <qman__> you could try rebuilding from a live environment
[21:10] <qman__> it's possible your failed drive contained your /boot
[21:10] <iDealz> I should preface this with my skill level; Noob
[21:10] <iDealz> shouldnt
[21:10] <iDealz> have os on ssd drive
[21:10] <qman__> it's also possible that the bit that tries to ask you what to do is broken
[21:10] <qman__> I've had a lot of trouble with it in the past regarding fsck questions
[21:10] <hurin> hi everybody
[21:11] <qman__> anyway
[21:11] <iDealz> doesnt sound promising
[21:11] <qman__> you could boot any live linux environment and use mdadm within it to add a new drive to the array
[21:11] <qman__> then let it rebuild
[21:11] <qman__> then attempt to reboot
[21:12] <iDealz> how do you boot it live?
[21:12] <qman__> a live USB or CD or DVD
[21:12] <qman__> like you did when you installed in the first place
[21:13] <iDealz> ah
[21:14] <qman__> only instead of isntalling, drop to a shell, and use mdadm
[21:14] <iDealz> that wont effect data on existing array?
[21:14] <qman__> that depends on what you do within that environment
[21:14] <qman__> merely booting it won't do a thing
[21:14] <qman__> adding a new disk to the array will cause it to rebuild
[21:15] <qman__> following the install procedure would overwrite your data with a new install (not what you want)
[21:15] <iDealz> do you need to do anything to remove the broken disk?
[21:15] <qman__> if mdadm is complaining at boot time, it's already removed
[21:15] <qman__> logically speaking
[21:16] <qman__> make sure you have the right one
[21:17] <qman__> another thing you can try is booting to "recovery mode" from grub
[21:17] <qman__> though that may or may not work
[21:17] <qman__> the idea here is you need to get a working linux environment from which to run the mdadm tools
[21:18] <iDealz> makes sense, wasnt sure what I could do from the initramfs prompt so I just powered off
[21:18] <qman__> can't do much from there
[21:19] <qman__> if recovery mode gets you to a root shell, it'll work
[21:19] <qman__> if not you'll have to boot from CD/DVD/USB/network/whatever
[21:19] <iDealz> ty qman
[21:19] <iDealz> once I get to the point of being in the root I'll probably be back with more questions =)
[21:20] <qman__> I personally prefer SystemRescueCD for that sort of thing, as the recovery shell in the ubuntu installer is kind of awkward
[21:20] <qman__> sure
[21:20] <qman__> but the ubuntu one will work
[21:20] <iDealz> from what I've read you really only get one shot at recovering the array
[21:20] <iDealz> so dont want to mess it
[21:20] <iDealz> *up
[21:20] <qman__> pretty much
[21:21] <qman__> RAID 5 is not particularly robust
[21:21] <iDealz> 4TBs of data lost would be sad to say the least
[21:21] <iDealz> may need to reconsider setup
[21:21] <qman__> if you're lucky enough that only one drive failed, it's probably going to recover ok
[21:21] <qman__> but the fact that it won't boot isn't promising
[21:22] <iDealz> looks like just one, only shows 3 drives in boot menu
[21:22] <iDealz> so one is completely hosed
[21:23] <iDealz> probably why they recommend not using cheap drives for RAID set up
[21:23] <iDealz> think the one that dies was WD Green
[21:24] <qman__> the reason desktop drives shouldn't be used in RAID is because, in the event of an error, they can sit there lagging out forever and drop out of the array
[21:24] <qman__> drives designed to be used in a RAID will give up after 7 seconds
[21:24] <iDealz> ahh
[21:24] <qman__> the generally low quality doesn't help much either
[21:25] <qman__> but that's the specific reason not to do it
[21:25] <iDealz> any drive you recommend?
[21:25] <iDealz> my others are WD Reds
[21:25] <qman__> I've had good luck with WD reds
[21:25] <qman__> they're not fast but they are pretty reliable
[21:25] <qman__> and they are designed to be used in RAID
[21:25] <iDealz> this is my first attempt at Linux and a RAID setup so its a bit daunting
[21:26] <iDealz> havent used a command line os since DOS
[21:27] <qman__> I don't recommend RAID 5 at all though, it only still works in niche cases
[21:29] <qman__> for some good reading on the reasons why, check this out: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/356486-why-is-raid5-so-bad
[21:29] <iDealz> do you recommend 6?
[21:29] <qman__> not particularly
[21:29] <iDealz> oh LOL
[21:30] <qman__> raid 6 fixes some of the reliability problems of raid 5 at the expense of a drastic performance decrease
[21:30] <qman__> if you want reasonable performance and reliability, I recommend raid 10
[21:30] <iDealz> how many redundant drives in raid 10?
[21:31] <qman__> raid 10 is striping across mirrored pairs
[21:31] <qman__> so the result is, the "wrong" two drives can take you out, but the "right" N drives won't
[21:34] <iDealz> I've been debating if I even need RAID... it seems like for my purposes it might be more trouble than its worth.  Although I like have some type of redundancy
[21:35] <qman__> well, it's important to note that RAID is not backup
[21:35] <qman__> RAID is for uptime and convenience
[21:35] <qman__> and in some cases performance
[21:36] <qman__> if uptime isn't that important to you, it may be better to spend the money on backup drives instead
[21:36] <iDealz> solid advice
[21:37] <iDealz> I just use my server for backing up my desktop and laptops and as a media server
[21:38] <iDealz> before I went RAID just having separate drives worked fine but I got to worry about a drive failure
[21:38] <iDealz> *worrying
[21:38] <qman__> well, as you saw, all drives will fail eventually
[21:38] <iDealz> indeed
[21:39] <qman__> a simple two-disk raid-0 for speed, and a couple backup drives you rotate, may be a better solution for you
[21:39] <iDealz> how do you mean rotate?
[21:39] <qman__> or even just a few disks without any RAID
[21:40] <qman__> rotate, as in, you back up your data to one disk, unplug it and store it elsewhere, and plug in the other one
[21:40] <qman__> next week, switch them
[21:40] <qman__> repeat
[21:40] <iDealz> ah
[21:41] <iDealz> this will be the dumbest question you hear all day, but for backing up you need the exactly the same size space right... 1GB to 1GB ratio?
[21:41] <qman__> that method only works well for volumes of data that fit on a single external hard drive, though
[21:41] <qman__> yes, for everything you want backed up
[21:42] <qman__> there are ways of compressing or deduplicating your data to get a little more out of it
[21:42] <qman__> but generally that's how it goes
[21:42] <iDealz> well I guess the silver lining is the price of drives are almost back down to reasonable prices
[21:43] <iDealz> so I guess I can get a 4TB drive, fix my array backup to the 4 TB drive and then wipe the array drives?
[21:44] <qman__> you could do that
[21:44] <qman__> I would make sure to do some testing on that new drive before you do the wipe
[21:44] <qman__> keep in mind also that as long as it's plugged in, that external drive could just as easily fail, so the idea is to keep a copy turned off
[21:45] <qman__> and preferably unplugged, in a box, in some other room or building
[21:45] <iDealz> I do have an external 4 TB drive, but it seems like it would take an eternity to move the data from the array to the external drive
[21:46] <iDealz> motherboard doesnt have a USB 3.0 out unfortunately
[21:46] <qman__> that will probably take a long time the first time
[21:47] <qman__> the good news is that if your data doesn't change a ton day to day, you can use a tool like rsync to simply 'update' the backup copy
[21:47] <qman__> which would normally have a lot less data to transfer than a full backup
[21:47] <iDealz> yes
[21:47] <iDealz> doesnt change a tremendous amount
[21:48] <iDealz> alright, sounds like i have to go dig up my boot disc
[21:48] <iDealz> thanks again qman
[21:49] <dasjoe> I'd recommend either raid6 or, as an (unsupported but still "production ready") alternative, taking a good look at ZFS
[21:50] <qman__> ZFS is very cool, but it has some hefty hardware requirements
[21:51] <dasjoe> It's okay, I'm running it on a laptop from 2010 right now
[21:51] <qman__> I would not attempt to run ZFS without server grade hardware top to bottom
[23:03] <hurin> hi o/
[23:04] <hurin> i'm on a ubuntu 14, triyng to set up a virtual host, without success, could anyone give me some hints here ?
[23:04] <hurin> i already checked my log, without seing anything, whatever i do, i keep getting only my default page,...
[23:06] <teward> hurin: virtual host for..?
[23:06] <hurin> my apache2 server
[23:07] <hurin> i followed this tutorial => https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/httpd.html
[23:08] <hurin> and this one too => http://blog.code4hire.com/2011/03/setting-up-virtual-hosts-for-apache-on-ubuntu-for-local-development/
[23:10] <hurin> here's the configuration of my virtual host (in /etc/apache2/sites-available/test.com.conf ) => <VirtualHost *:80>         ServerAdmin<EMAIL_ADDRESS>       ServerName test.com         ServerAlias www.test.com         DocumentRoot /var/www/test.com/public_html          LogLevel warn          ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log         CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined  </VirtualHost>
[23:11] <hurin> i'm really lost here, i don't know what i did wrong, i'm usually working on a centOs, and never had any problem with apache or any virtual host, i really don't knwo what to do >___<
[23:19] <hurin> well, i don't know exactly why, but i made a service apache2 stop and a service apache2 start, instead of doing a service apache2 restart as usual, and that's working O_o
[23:23] <hurin> ok, i think i'm starting to understand what i did wrong, if i let the 000-default.conf, and, even if you make a a2dissite 000-default.conf, you have to make a service apache2 restart (and not a reload), and then, it's working :)
[23:26] <maxb> how odd, that shouldn't be neccessary