[07:43] <azhar27> where should i paste /etc/apt/sources
[07:43] <sn9> WIGGMPk: what chipset?
[07:43] <Flannel> !paste | azhar27
[07:43] <dglkn> I'm getting really slow network file transfers with my wireless LAN. Distance from the router is not the problem. I've got my devices set to 36Mb/sec, and the transfers are only about 7Mb/sec
[07:43] <ManualOverDozer8> kindofabuzz you have IP ??? hmm
[07:43] <WIGGMPk> sn9: what chipset is the SATA PCI Card?
[07:43] <debCarlos> Flannel: Ok
[07:43] <sn9> WIGGMPk: you said motherboard sata
[07:44] <sn9> dglkn: which wifi is it?
[07:44] <azhar27> Flannel : Ok
[07:44] <dglkn> linksys
[07:44] <dglkn> wrt54gs
[07:44] <WIGGMPk> sn9: i said i dont have the alternative of using onboard sata.. because i dont have any
[07:44] <sn9> dglkn: not the router, the wifi adapter in your computer
[07:45] <sn9> WIGGMPk: oh, never mind
[07:45] <azhar27> Flannel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/32905/
[07:45] <dglkn> sn9: ok, the one in my laptop is bcm43xx, and the one in my desktop is rt61pci
[07:45] <Flannel> azhar27: no, no.  Pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <azhar27> Flannel : ok
[07:46] <sn9> dglkn: and which one is slow?
[07:46] <linxUz3r> sup
[07:46] <sn9> !hi | linxUz3r
[07:46] <dglkn> sn9: i'm not sure
[07:46] <Flannel> linxUz3r: this is not a social channel, if you're looking to chat, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:47] <sn9> dglkn: first of all, for rt61pci, you have to do "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" to get full speed
[07:47] <linxUz3r> ok
[07:47] <dglkn> sn9: that actually made it slower
[07:47] <dglkn> sn9: for some reason, 36M seems to be optimal
[07:47] <sn9> dglkn: for the broadcom, you have to upgrade to the "b43" driver instead of "bcm43xx"
[07:48] <azhar27> Flannel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/32907/
[07:48] <Blaqlight> glitsj16: is it easier just to put the cursors where the old link points too (/etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme) or leave the cursors where they are /usr/share/icons and put a link to that theme where the lnk currently exists...
[07:48] <dglkn> sn9: i just used the restricted drivers for the bcm43
[07:48] <Flannel> azhar27: You pasted the contents of the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ I need the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list.  Type this: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:48] <ManualOverDozer8> dglkn : maybe this page can help a little > http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:49] <sn9> dglkn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/b43-fwcutter
[07:49] <glitsj16> Blaclight: i never touch anything besides changing that index.theme file to point to the new cursor theme under /usr/share/icons .. can' t tell sorry
[07:49] <dglkn> sn9: i already have that installed
[07:49] <azhar27> @flannel : I did
[07:50] <sn9> dglkn: which? bcm, or b43?
[07:50] <Flannel> azhar27: So, lines 7 and 8 of what you posted are the entirety of the file /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:50] <Flannel> azhar27: what's in the two files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ then?
[07:50] <azhar27> deb http://ftp.iitm.ac.in/ubuntu/ hardy universe
[07:51] <dglkn> sn9: when i look at the connection information, the driver says b43
[07:51] <sn9> dglkn: ok, good
[07:51] <Flannel> azhar27: ok.  Lets do this.  `sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* && sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list` then in that nano editor, paste this:
[07:52] <sn9> dglkn: it's probably a limitation of your specific revision of the wrt54gs, then
[07:52] <azhar27> Flannel : ok
[07:52] <sn9> dglkn: wikipedia has a nice reference on them
[07:53] <ManualOverDozer8> dglkn : sudo lspci        then     sudo lshw -C network    then      modinfo ?YOURMODULE?
[07:53] <hse-hoens> how do i check if there's a specific version of a package available?
[07:53] <dglkn> sn9: well, what's odd is that it will transfer files at about 7Mb, and I can still download files from the internet at 6Mb(which is my connection maximum)
[07:53] <dglkn> which adds up to about 13Mb
[07:53] <sn9> hse-hoens: apt-cache policy pkgname
[07:53] <Flannel> azhar27: http://paste.ubuntu.com/32909/
[07:53] <hse-hoens> what's policy sn9?
[07:54] <sn9> hse-hoens: the answer to your question
[07:54] <ManualOverDozer8> kindofabuzz got back to connected-state with NM
[07:54] <hse-hoens> i see
[07:54] <hse-hoens> apparently the intrepid release has the package i need, but the hardy release doesn't. can i d/l the intrepid package somehow?
[07:54] <Bogus8> acrousey: google sata cards
[07:55] <sn9> hse-hoens: you could request a backport
[07:55] <Flannel> !prevu | hse-hoens
[07:55] <acrousey> bogus8: ok
[07:55] <hse-hoens> sweet
[07:55] <hse-hoens> intrepid isn't stable yet right?
[07:55] <Flannel> hse-hoens: If its a core-ish package, prevu won't turn out too well.
[07:55] <Flannel> hse-hoens: No, its alpha.
[07:55] <Kahn|Wrk> right hse-hoens
[07:55] <Shish_> hey, my audio doesnt work when i play any youtube video
[07:55] <Shish_> every other audio works
[07:55] <sn9> hse-hoens: right now, the intrepid kernel doesn't even compile
[07:55] <Shish_> any ideas?
[07:56] <hse-hoens> hehe
[07:56] <sn9> Shish_: remove the libflashsupport pkg
[07:56] <Shish_> sn9: ummm... how?
[07:57] <azhar27> Flannel : i did
[07:57] <azhar27> still nothing
[07:57] <sn9> Shish_: System->Admin->Synaptic Pkg Mgr
[07:57] <Flannel> azhar27: after you're done, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-ge install amarok
[07:57] <Shish_> ahh ok
[07:58] <Scorp__> hey, how do i setup my USB audio system on a laptop ?? I;ve connected it and its being detected as USB Audio, but not really working. What could be the reason ???
[07:58] <azhar27> Flannel : it is updating
[07:58] <ManualOverDozer8> sn9: just removing that lib fixes it ? > ref libflashsupport pkg
[07:58] <azhar27> but i am getting lot of hits and igns
[07:58] <Shish_> sn9: its not installed
[07:59] <Flannel> azhar27: If you've got questions, pastebin the output
[07:59] <azhar27> ok
[07:59] <azhar27> Flannel : After it updates, i will pastebin the output
[07:59] <sn9> Shish_: hmm...
[07:59] <ManualOverDozer8> i dont know how i got over the flash issue to be honest, but most all streams are working. i think something to do wtih mediubuntu, but not sure
[07:59] <acrousey> bogus8: what would sata II cards be?
[08:00] <c0_co0lllLLL> help me 4 use ubuntu
[08:00] <Shish_> sn9: this just happened.. like earlier today everything was fine
[08:00] <Bogus8> google
[08:00] <sn9> acrousey: more expensive
[08:00] <Scorp__> hey, how do i setup my USB audio system on a laptop ?? I;ve connected it and its being detected as USB Audio, but not really working. What could be the reason ???
[08:01] <sn9> Scorp__: programs generally use only one sound output device at a time
[08:02] <ManualOverDozer8> sn8l maybe you could answer this: if a module is black-listed, but still installed, being black-listed just prevents it from loading at boot ? even if the files and configs are still there
[08:02] <ManualOverDozer8> sn9
[08:03] <sn9> ManualOverDozer8: blacklisting makes modprobe ignore it when told to look at the blacklist, such as by udev
[08:04] <c0_co0lllLLL> alow
[08:04] <vnrvjiet_> can anyone tell me why linux kernal is designed on c?
[08:04] <ManualOverDozer8> sn9: thank you
[08:04] <Flannel> vnrvjiet_: Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:05] <HappyHater> dumb question
[08:05] <napsy> I think linus even tried c++ for kernel design
[08:05] <glitsj16> c0_co0lllLLL: hi, what is your question ?
[08:06] <sn9> !id | c0_co0lllLLL
[08:06] <maxhrk> i like compiz's burn and beam effect. mhmm
[08:07] <ManualOverDozer8> maxhrkL my low-end machine has issues with running eyecandy, i am currently running GnomeOpenBox which really works nice for me.
[08:07] <maxhrk> nice
[08:07] <random_life> any way to check if localhost is blocked
[08:07] <maxhrk> for?
[08:07] <ManualOverDozer8> ping localhost
[08:08] <random_life> I tried ssh -D 4324<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and tried to ssh tunnel through it with firefox, but, it refuses the connection
[08:08] <ManualOverDozer8> random_life in Network Tools there is tools that may assist you in determining that
[08:08] <sn9> random_life: do you have openssh-server installed?
[08:09] <random_life> sn9: I've done it previously
[08:09] <random_life> and I have that package, yes
[08:10] <kindofabuzz> ok back on my 'random_life, can you even ping the host you want?
[08:10] <kindofabuzz> lol
[08:10] <kindofabuzz> what da hell?
[08:10] <sn9> random_life: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[08:11] <ManualOverDozer8> sn9: have you heard of ipv6 causing issues in network on ubuntu ? i dont seem to have that issue, or it hasnt shown its ugly face. should i be concerned ? and/or remove it ?
[08:11] <Blaqlight> man gotta love tilda, I can run irssi and htop on my desktop without any of the bars and or titlebars and stuff.
[08:11] <sn9> ManualOverDozer8: i know of slowness caused by that
[08:12] <sn9> Blaqlight: too bad it's broken in hardy
[08:12] <ManualOverDozer8> sn9 : is that more in response than actual throughput ?
[08:12] <sn9> ManualOverDozer8: right
[08:12] <ManualOverDozer8> sn9: ok that helps. thank you
[08:13] <Blaqlight> I see that :(
[08:13] <Blaqlight> it still kinda works though
[08:13] <random_life> sn9: hmm, that didnt seem to fix it :(
[08:13] <sn9> Blaqlight: i use it
[08:13] <Blaqlight> sn9 I like it because you can hide titlebars, and hide it from the taskbar, and keep it like pinned to the desktop.
[08:14] <eclectro> /msg ubottu etiquette
[08:14] <ManualOverDozer8> linux TCP proto have any extra layers compared to MS's use of TCP proto ?
[08:14] <Blaqlight> sn9: Ive prolly got the busiest desktop in this room now though lol
[08:15] <eclectro> how do I remove the "restricted driver" icon from the notification area? And why is it not easy to do this?
[08:15] <Circus-Killer> ManualOverDozer8, afaik, tcp will always have the same number of layers
[08:16] <Finnish> Is there a virtualbox-ose-modules-generic-package for my kernel, it ends .20? I can't find one
[08:16] <ManualOverDozer8> thats what i figured i dont see why it would be, but then i wasnt sure
[08:16] <ManualOverDozer8> going to #networking maybe get a few tippers on Ubuntu
[08:17] <Blaqlight> sn9: aside from CTRL ALT 1 to get to the status screen instead of ALT 1 its the same as gnome terminal.
[08:18] <sn9> Finnish: give it a day or two
[08:18] <Blaqlight> sn9: this is irssi. btw :D
[08:18] <Finnish> sn9: Ok
[08:19] <sn9> ...and, we're in august!
[08:19] <DexTerDDIT> hey guys a have a question ,  i install ubuntu server (8.04) and the network don`t work , any ideeas ?
[08:19] <DexTerDDIT> :D
[08:19] <sn9> DexTerDDIT: ethernet, or wifi?
[08:21] <DexTerDDIT> ethernet
[08:21] <DexTerDDIT> on-board
[08:22] <sn9> DexTerDDIT: what kind of board?
[08:22] <DexTerDDIT> intel
[08:23] <DexTerDDIT> sn9 it`s a HP vectra box
[08:24] <iustinus> Can someone help me; I switched monitors on my system and now I can't get proper screen resolutions.
[08:25] <iustinus> The monitor is capable of 1600x1400 res, but Ubuntu is only allowing options of 640
[08:25] <debCarlos> iustinus: Try editing your xorg.conf file
[08:26] <iustinus> debCarlos: I don't know which line(s) to edit.
[08:27] <iustinus> quit
[08:28] <sn9> DexTerDDIT: did it use to work?
[08:28] <br00k5> best mp3 player available =?
[08:28] <rick_> Hi, I'm having trouble installing an ati radeon 9250, If I put it in the PCI slot and boot Ubuntu 7.10 the splash screen freezes, Can anyone please let me know a few things I might try? I'm new to Ubuntu so please keep that in mind. Thanks in advance.
[08:29] <sn9> br00k5: whatever you like most
[08:29] <^hellfire^> cze
[08:29] <sn9> rick_: pci? so, this is a second video card?
[08:29] <rick_> yes i have an integrated intel as well
[08:30]  * ^hellfire^ zapraszam do wspolnego pingowania :] pisac w konsoli ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:30]  * eclectro thinks the restricted driver applet is the gheyest thing outside a microsoft eula. And the color brown
[08:30] <sn9> !cz | ^hellfire^
[08:31] <sn9> !pl | ^hellfire^
[08:32] <azhar27> Flannel : My sources.list file, please check if this is ok. http://paste.ubuntu.com/32916/
[08:32] <Flannel> azhar27: You said it was empty?
[08:32] <azhar27> it was not empty
[08:33] <Flannel> azhar27: Then what did you pastebin when I asked you to pastebin your sources.list?
[08:33] <azhar27> i manually went to that sources folder
[08:33] <azhar27> and pasted the names of the 2 files. :(
[08:34] <azhar27> Flannel : the sources.list is fine right
[08:34] <maxhrk> i like compiz+emerald. mhmm nice thing.
[08:34] <rick_> Is there any way of choosing / setting up a graphics diplay driver before boot in ubuntu 7.10?
[08:34] <Flannel> azhar27: yeah.  In the future please try and pay closer attention.  After you had done that, I asked you to confirm that that's what was in your sources.list, and you did.  miscommunications like these can ruin a system
[08:35] <azhar27> yup sorry, i didn't even know how to open the sources.list file
[08:35] <sn9> rick_: yes, but having two different kinds makes it more complicated. does even one of them work when they are both in?
[08:35] <azhar27> Flannel : but still i can't install amarok
[08:36] <azhar27> Flannel : what do u think is the problem
[08:36] <itai-michaelson> azhar27, what happens when you try to install it?
[08:36] <rick_> the ati card works up untill the splash screen, the intel doesnt at all, so i guess the answer would be no.
[08:36] <Flannel> azhar27: alright, pastebin the output of this: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy amarok
[08:37] <ckebabo> anyone knows how can use backspace key in xubuntu Terminal with screen?
[08:37] <azhar27> Flannel : I am getting lot of 404 errors while installing, it says some files were not downloaded
[08:37] <sn9> rick_: you may need to tweak a couple of bios settings
[08:37] <rick_> with the ati card in right?
[08:37] <sn9> azhar27: what version of ubuntu?
[08:38] <sn9> rick_: yes
[08:38] <rick_> k
[08:38] <Begasus> hello, I just installed ubuntu on a pc but can't seem to get the resolution to go higher then 800x600 - nvidia restricted driver enabled)
[08:38] <rick_> thanks for your help sn9
[08:38] <Flannel> azhar27: pastebin the output
[08:38] <my_haz> what does the "t" in drwx-wx-wt mean?
[08:38] <azhar27> Flannel : Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 amd64
[08:38] <Balian> Flannel i have teak iso with flopy disc. Wath i need to burn this iso to CD?
[08:38] <kaushal> hi
[08:38] <Flannel> my_haz: sticky
[08:38] <kaushal> how can i uninstall apache and its dependency
[08:38] <kaushal> in ubuntu
[08:38] <sn9> Begasus: you may need to use nvidia-settings to change the video timings
[08:39] <kaushal> I did apt-get remove apache2
[08:39] <Begasus> is there any howto sn9 ?
[08:39] <my_haz> Flannel: what does that do?
[08:39] <kaushal> but still I have apache2-mpm-worker,apache2-utils and apache2.2-common
[08:40] <Begasus> installing nvidia-settings atm through apt-get
[08:40] <azhar27> Flannel : Do you think i am getting 404 errors because of my internet connection.
[08:40] <Flannel> azhar27: I think you should pastebin the output, and we'll take a look.
[08:40] <Flannel> my_haz: man chmod explains it better than I can.
[08:40] <azhar27> Flannel : ok sure.
[08:40] <my_haz> Flannel: ahh yes i see it here in the man page
[08:41] <Begasus> hmm .. nvidia-setttings tells me I'm not using the nvidia X driver??
[08:41] <kaushal> Flannel, hi
[08:41] <sn9> Begasus: that would explain it
[08:41] <Flannel> Howdy kaushal
[08:41] <Balian> people ! wath i need to burn iso on CD witch iso from flopy disc??
[08:42] <DexTerDDIT> sry sn9 it work fine with debian
[08:42] <Flannel> Balian: You want to burn a CD with the contents of a floppy?
[08:42] <azhar27> Flannel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/32905/  ...this is the o/p i am getting
[08:42] <DexTerDDIT> but with ubuntu it`s dead i think
[08:42] <itai-michaelson> kaushal, did you try apt-get remove --purge apache2?
[08:42] <kaushal> How can i uninstall apache2 and all its associated packages in Ubuntu Server
[08:42] <kaushal> ok
[08:42] <Flannel> kaushal: which version of Ubuntu?
[08:42] <sn9> DexTerDDIT: i don't know; i've never seen intel ethernet fail to work in ubuntu
[08:42] <kaushal> 8.04
[08:42] <CorpseFeeder> is there any way to get a SD memory card in a laptop to work when it does not work "out of the box"?
[08:42] <Flannel> azhar27: output of sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy amarok
[08:43] <DexTerDDIT> hmm....
[08:43] <sn9> CorpseFeeder: yes
[08:43] <Balian> i teak grub iso from flopy disc and i wanth burn iso no CD
[08:43] <DexTerDDIT> sn9 what should i try ?
[08:43] <Balian> Flannel i teak grub iso from flopy disc and i wanth burn iso no CD
[08:43] <sn9> DexTerDDIT: debian again?
[08:44] <Flannel> kaushal: remove apache2, apache2.2-common apache2.2-mpm-worker apache2-utils and maybe libapr1 and libaprutil1
[08:44] <CorpseFeeder> sn9, ok.. how would I go about making that happen?
[08:44] <DexTerDDIT> sn9 10x
[08:44] <Flannel> kaushal: the last two are dependant of whether you have something else that uses apr (which, you'll see when it says "are you sure you want to remove this? it'll also remove [useful programs]"
[08:44] <kaushal> so i have to specify each and every package
[08:45] <Flannel> kaushal: "each and every" consists of four or so.  There are automated ways
[08:45] <azhar27> Flannel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/32919/
[08:46] <Flannel> azhar27: looks like your problem is that mirror (http://ftp.iitm.ac.in) isn't up
[08:46] <Flannel> azhar27: change mirrors, and you should be fine.
[08:46] <MenZa>  /w 20
[08:46] <azhar27> Flannel : Thanks. I will do it now.
[08:46] <wers> i'm booting ubuntu hardy on a usb drive on an eee pc 701. I just see the command line showing SQUASHFS errors. It's been like this for more than 5mins. Will this ever boot?
[08:47] <itai-michaelson> wers, probably not
[08:47] <sn9> CorpseFeeder: do you know which driver is being used for it?
[08:47] <sn9> wers: no
[08:47] <CorpseFeeder> sn9, no
[08:48] <wers> sn9, what could be wrong?
[08:48] <wers> usb stick isnt working?
[08:48] <sn9> wers: corrupt image
[08:48] <wers> wow. my usb is really hot
[08:48] <wers> turned the eee off. imma try to reformat the usb stick
[08:50] <sn9> CorpseFeeder: what model laptop?
[08:50] <maxhrk> question, how do you add the font to ubuntu's font directory.. if any?
[08:51] <CorpseFeeder> sn9, Toshiba Tecra S1,  FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc CB710 Memory Card Reader Controller
[08:52] <Begasus> still no luck :/
[08:52] <Flannel> !font | maxhrk
[08:52] <wers> how do i reformat a usb drive?
[08:52] <Balian> Flannel i teak grub iso from flopy disc and i wanth burn iso no CD
[08:52] <maxhrk> thanks
[08:53] <Flannel> Balian: You can't burn a CD ISO to a floppy
[08:54] <itai-michaelson> Balian if you have the iso on your desktop you can just right-click on it and choose "burn to cd"
[08:55] <X3> Morning all
[08:55] <Begasus> k .. instead of 800 x I have now 640 x :S
[08:55] <X3> it seems that the nic on this machine is mot tatally recognised by UBUNTU hardy 8.4
[08:55] <X3> yet it connects
[08:56] <sn9> X3: if it works, it works
[08:56] <X3> Im not able to get a sliunk speed or access other networked devices via smb
[08:57] <guestadmin> Can anyone help me, PHew, sweating from panic mode after a LONG feisty to Gutsy upgrade, after the final reboot, i couldn't connect to wireless internet, i restored my backups from /etc acpi-support login.defs and kismet.conf, now i am back online, only boots in the 2.6.20-16 kernel
[08:57] <Balian> Flannel No  i have grub on floppy disc and i do iso with commend dd. Now i hawe iso floppy disc on desktop and wanth burn tich iso no CD How
[08:57] <X3> is ther a waty to get the drivers being used and replace them by more appropriate ones
[08:57] <X3> I need to have this machinbe see the smb ntwork which all others do except this one
[08:58] <sn9> guestadmin: what kind of wifi is in your computer?
[08:58] <X3> sn9 it works yes but badly
[08:59] <guestadmin> sn9 not exactly sure, i remember something about ipw3450? something, it is the System76 Gazelle
[09:00] <Balian> Flannel No  i have grub on floppy disc and i do iso with commend dd. Now i hawe iso floppy disc on desktop and wanth burn tich iso no CD How. Btw. comment  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst it not open edit menu.lst Help
[09:00] <sn9> Balian: man genisoimage
[09:00] <guestadmin> sn9 i am worried though that my upgrade still had errors, and i forgot how to boot to a CD, so yes, was definitely in panick ;)
[09:01] <sn9> guestadmin: that will work again after you upgrade, again, to Hardy
[09:01] <max____> is there anyway to get apt-get to give me info about a package?
[09:01] <rick_> sn9 are you still around?
[09:01] <sn9> max____: apt-cache show nameofpkg
[09:02] <max____> sn9: doesn't work
[09:02] <X3> anyone know any tricks for me to get better drivers for my card or commands ton input on console to troubleshoot th reason why its not aceswsing othersmb devices
[09:02] <max____> oh apt-cache
[09:02] <Dark_Shadow> hi
[09:03] <guestadmin> sn9 still not sure why i cant boot up normally into kernel 2.6.22, Now when I boot I must hit escape and then choose 2.6.20-16 or -15
[09:03] <Dark_Shadow> i tried to start ettercap
[09:03] <Dark_Shadow> but it says
[09:03] <Dark_Shadow> GTK support not compiled in ettercap
[09:03] <Dark_Shadow> how to ddo?
[09:04] <X3> guestadmin you have  a amd platform?
[09:04] <guestadmin> no, intel celeron
[09:04] <cWe_sMa_bae> anjink
[09:04] <Begasus> f*ck .. seems that the legacy driver isn't working for nvidia :/
[09:04] <cWe_sMa_bae> goblog you
[09:05] <Dark_Shadow> euuh
[09:05] <Dark_Shadow> help me please
[09:06] <blankthemuffin> Is there a way to access the alternate installer from the normal install disk, I presumed the problems with the GeForce 6800 would be fixed by now but not to be.
[09:06] <Uplink> whats the command to copy and paste a dir?
[09:07] <ramontayag> hi everyone. i followed these instructions (http://railshacks.blogspot.com/2008/08/installing-latest-gvim-and-vim-in.html) to install the latest version of gvim.. and now i have 2 packages  (vim-gnome and vim-tiny) that are broken. how do i ignore them?
[09:07] <milinda> cp -r <SRC> <DEST>
[09:07] <blankthemuffin> cp is copy. in the terminal.
[09:07] <sn9> !bug #31440 | CorpseFeeder
[09:07] <barduck> Hello, can anyone please recommened a cheap 3D graphics card that will work well with Ubuntu and has good driver support? Something to run simple/old 3D games with reasonable framerates ?
[09:07] <milinda> you have to use -r to copy direcotries
[09:08] <ManualOverDozer8> blankthemuffin i believe there may be, i used something called EdgyNG to install my nvidia driver
[09:08] <ManualOverDozer8> blankthemuffin let me get likc for u
[09:08] <milinda> hi barduck NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 will be a better card for your requirements
[09:08] <ramontayag> barduck, geforce mx 440 ran okay with ubuntu
[09:09] <ramontayag> that's even better
[09:09] <milinda> hmm mx 440 is cheaper than fx 5200
[09:09] <milinda> :)
[09:09] <milinda> but fx 5200 has more features
[09:09] <Uplink> cp and thats it?
[09:09] <barduck> milinda: and something mroe recenet? I'd say up to $60...I am not sure I can find the older ones in the stores here
[09:09] <blankthemuffin> You guys are suggesting cards which will probably be worth a bundle more since they are antiques. I'd be putting forward the option of a GeForce 6600 but it really depends where you're sourcing it from I suppose.
[09:09] <ManualOverDozer8> blankthemuffin      www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[09:10] <sn9> barduck: 6200?
[09:10] <adamw9678> Hay. dose any1 know how to get the touch screen working on a Fujitus siemens B-2131? I am using xubuntu but I'm not get a responce from them and it can't be much diffrent to ubuntu to set up can it?
[09:10] <ManualOverDozer8> blankthemuffin i also have a pastebin
[09:10] <Balian> i need help with maskarada
[09:10] <guestadmin> If anyone knows how to fix a feisty > gutsy upgrade, I can't boot into the normal 2.6.22 kernel, I must hit escape at grub and then choose 2.6.20
[09:10] <sn9> adamw9678: is that a Stylistic model?
[09:10] <CorpseFeeder> sn9, does that link mean there is no fix for this?
[09:10] <ramontayag> i recently got the 8600gt and it works great, but i had to install the driver from nvidia.
[09:10] <sn9> CorpseFeeder: pretty much
[09:11] <ManualOverDozer8> blankthemuffin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/32429/
[09:11] <barduck> Is there anywhere a lsit of recommneded graphics for ubuntu ?
[09:11] <adamw9678> Its a B series lifebook
[09:11] <ramontayag> barduck yes i believe there's a list of hardware that has been tested with ubuntu
[09:11] <barduck> Someone suggested the nVidia 8400GS, its cheap but I dont know how well it works.
[09:11] <blankthemuffin> Yeah it's not that I can't install the drivers, I install the binary drivers from nvidia manually. But the problem is the live CD crashes due to trying to load the nv driver.
[09:11] <MenZa> Fairly decent card, barduck
[09:11] <ramontayag> barduck: i doubt that the new cards will be listed there though.
[09:11] <sn9> adamw9678: i will check. i know the Stylistic models use the "fpit" driver
[09:12] <adamw9678> Thank mate
[09:12] <Dark_Shadow> allora???????
[09:12] <blankthemuffin> I suppose I'll just download the alternate cd.
[09:12] <sn9> blankthemuffin: safe graphics mode
[09:12] <Dark_Shadow> i tried to start ettercap
[09:12] <drugo> hello
[09:12] <Dark_Shadow> but it says  GTK support not compiled in ettercap
[09:12] <blankthemuffin> sn9, fails.
[09:13] <Dark_Shadow> what to do brothers
[09:13] <blankthemuffin> I need to manually set the driver to vesa or it crashes.
[09:13] <Lvl21nerd> is there a safe and easy way to make a partition new partition separate from the ubuntu install??
[09:13] <barduck> is this the list to look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia ?
[09:13] <X3> can any one here give me a hand troubleshooting this nic card?
[09:13] <CorpseFeeder> sn9, that link appears to be for a PCMCIA card reader - isn't that different to an SD card reader?
[09:14] <blankthemuffin> barduck, pretty much every graphics card will work fine with ubuntu.
[09:14] <sn9> Lvl21nerd: if it's on the same disk, you need to boot from something else
[09:14] <leslie> hi
[09:14] <drugo> why network menager asks to authenticate with the wi-fi pass everytime i start up ?is there a way to avoid this?
[09:14] <blankthemuffin> barduck, every nvidia one anyway, just don't get a GeForce 6800, they are a pain in the ass.
[09:14] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo: yes
[09:15] <sn9> CorpseFeeder: not necessarily
[09:15] <barduck> blankthemuffin: yaeh well, I have a SiS onboard one here and it doesn't do 3D on Ubuntu although it does on windows
[09:15] <barduck> this is why I want to check to make sure
[09:15] <sn9> barduck: which SiS?
[09:15] <iustinus> blankthemuffin: I have a GeForce 6800, and it was working fine until I switched monitors, because the new Xorg release doesn't allow video questions on dpkg-reconfigure.
[09:15] <ManualOverDozer8> iwconfig wlan0 key "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"
[09:15] <barduck> Sis 661fx
[09:15] <drugo> ManualOverDozer8 hello, how?
[09:15] <blankthemuffin> iustinus, it's probably related to the GS version only then, which have you got?
[09:15] <sn9> barduck: yes, 661 has no 3d driver in linux (yet)
[09:15] <Lvl21nerd> sn9: ok i have ubuntu on a 160gb drive single partition....i have heard that i can make a partition on it (want to use this partition as a test partition for other distros)
[09:15] <iustinus> blankthemuffin: GX
[09:15] <drugo> is this permanent?
[09:16] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo let me get the permanent fix for you
[09:16] <sn9> Lvl21nerd: boot from the livecd
[09:16] <barduck> ok, so the 8400GS is reasonably prices and seems to be supported.  I've no idea how to manually configure xorg.conf, and I can't dpkg-reconfigure it.
[09:17] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : is it WEP or WPA ?
[09:17] <drugo> wpa
[09:17] <iustinus> Does anyone know a solution to this problem?
[09:17] <vido> hi all
[09:17] <X3> drugo is there a checkbox that you can see that say autoconnect or auto accept
[09:17] <blankthemuffin> iustinus, there is a nvidia application which does it automagically.
[09:17] <Lvl21nerd> sn9: using GParted wont damage info or data contained on the rest of the drive?
[09:17] <blankthemuffin> iustinus, nvidia-xconfig
[09:17] <iustinus> blankthemuffin: I can't get it to work. Which drive should be installed? Restricted hardware.
[09:17] <sn9> Lvl21nerd: unless you lose power
[09:17] <iustinus> drive = driver.
[09:18] <X3> Lv1 Gparted is nasty
[09:18] <Balian> i need help with maskarada HELP
[09:18] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : in your interfaces file you can add this > wireless-essid wlan0
[09:18] <ManualOverDozer8> wireless-key XXXXXX
[09:18] <sn9> drugo: which wifi driver?
[09:18] <ManualOverDozer8> oops two lines it should be one
[09:18] <X3> it will kill otherd data
[09:18] <blankthemuffin> iustinus, oh ok, I'm not sure with that, I personally use the binary drivers straight from the nvidia website, but EnvyNG is probably your best bet.
[09:18] <drugo> bcm-43xxx
[09:18] <ManualOverDozer8> wlan0 can be ath0 is you run atheros chipset
[09:19] <blankthemuffin> iustinus, http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[09:19] <iustinus> blankthemuffin: ah, should I just DL the binary drivers from NVIDIA then?
[09:19] <mark_> can anyone help. my two sata dvdrw drives wont MOUNT any media, other than prerecorded films. i need to be able to load 8gb of my old files.
[09:19] <sn9> drugo: in 8.04, b43 replaces bcm43xx, and WPA should work
[09:20] <drugo> yes it works but nm-applet asks to authenticate at every start up
[09:20] <whoppix> hey people! I'm trying to restore a damaged ubuntu dapper (6.06 LTS server) system from a livecd, and im trying to (re)-install libc6 (which, apparently was uninstalled). I cannot chroot into the system, so i thought i could use dpkg with the --root or --instdir option, to install something in the mounted system. Would that work, and correctly update the systems packet database?
[09:20] <blankthemuffin> iustinus, I do, but generally its not recommended because you have to know your way around a command line pretty well, EnvyNG is probably a much better option.
[09:20] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : in root > gedit /etc/network/interfaces   then add > wireless-key XXXXXX
[09:20] <mark_> can anyone help. my two sata dvdrw drives wont MOUNT any media, other than prerecorded films. i need to be able to load 8gb of my old files.
[09:21] <ramontayag> i followed these instructions (http://railshacks.blogspot.com/2008/08/installing-latest-gvim-and-vim-in.html) to install the latest version of gvim.. and now i have 2 packages  (vim-gnome and vim-tiny) that are broken because they aren't the packages available in ubuntu's repos. how do i ignore them?
[09:21] <whoppix> i suppose i would need to specify --admindir as well?
[09:21] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : NM should do it as well , if it doesnt you can edit the interfaces file
[09:21] <blankthemuffin> X3, what, GParted is one of the best partitioning applications around. You only loose files if you wipe your partitions, which any partitioner will do.
[09:21] <drugo> no essid, only the key?
[09:22] <ld> hi, how can I manage the services from the command line?
[09:22] <X3> ok then
[09:22] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : its optional but only if you never change the SSID
[09:22] <qmemo> Hi all, on the download server I have two options of ISO's (ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso & ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso)
[09:22] <ld> (like I can do with "services-admin")
[09:22] <qmemo> which one should I get?!
[09:22] <drugo> i have only these two lines in the file at the moment : auto lo
[09:22] <drugo> iface lo inet loopback
[09:22] <blankthemuffin> qmemo, Unless you want to install via a text interface, get the desktop version. The alternate is text only.
[09:22] <drugo> to i have to specify the interface?
[09:23] <X3> blanklmuffin if you say so the theres no nedd for me later saying I told you so
[09:23] <guestadmin> My problem: After upgrade from feisty to Gutsy, system wont boot to the normal 2.6.22, must manually select 2.6.20
[09:23] <drugo> *do
[09:23] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : > ifconfig -a
[09:23] <max____> is there anyway to download from terminal directly to the directoy i'm currently in
[09:23] <max____> http download?
[09:23] <qmemo> can I add anthoer wm while I am using the text installer?
[09:23] <drugo> wireless is wlan'
[09:23] <mark_> any takers on my "two optical drives not mounting self-burned media" problem?
[09:23] <drugo> wireless is wlan0
[09:23] <barduck> ohhh shoot....the 8400gs is only PCIe and I need AGP, back to the drawing board....
[09:23] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : look to see whether its wlan0 or ath0 or even something else. eth0 is usually LAN
[09:23] <blankthemuffin> another wm qmemo ???
[09:24] <qmemo> FluxBox
[09:24] <blankthemuffin> barduck, GeForce 6600
[09:24] <drugo> wireless is wlan0
[09:24] <ManualOverDozer8> ifconfig - a   should show you
[09:24] <qmemo> is Gnome the default WM of Ubuntu
[09:24] <ManualOverDozer8> then that is what you use
[09:24] <iustinus> qmemo: It's the default Desktop Environment
[09:24] <barduck> blankthemuffin: I will check if I can find one here, I guess it will be pretty rare by now
[09:24] <drugo> so what is the code for the essid?
[09:25] <blankthemuffin> Yeah probably barduck, but they were the "sweet spot" for mid-range cards for a long while so there should be a few around.
[09:25] <wers> how do I reformat a thumb drive?
[09:25] <qmemo> Gnome is the default I know, I just thought to ask if I can install FluxBox while installing from the text version cd
[09:25] <ManualOverDozer8> wireless-essid
[09:25] <blankthemuffin> X3, I regularly use GParted to partition my many drives on many systems, unless you totally wipe a partition with data on it you're not going to loose any data. And it warns you before you do anything remotly dangerous. In any case data loss is the fault of the user not the program
[09:25] <barduck> thanks !
[09:25] <iustinus> qmemo: No, Ubuntu doesn't have custom installation options
[09:25] <ManualOverDozer8> hold on i have to stop this dumb vlc laggin the heck out of me
[09:25] <Ayabara> I'm removing kde from my system, and I get this error: dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop': No such file or directory
[09:25] <iustinus> If you want a custom install best to use the server installation and then install other apps.
[09:26] <sn9> adamw9678: still there?
[09:26] <Ayabara> when trying to remove kio-umountwrapper
[09:26] <HappyHater> !fluxbuntu
[09:26] <qmemo> o.k. thx guys
[09:26] <iustinus> And there's fluxbuntu.
[09:26] <iustinus> :-P
[09:26] <drugo> k i am trying
[09:26] <qmemo> HappyHater, check the bugs page
[09:26] <adamw9678> yep still here
[09:26] <mark_> I am having trouble getting my two internal dvdrw drives to work in ubuntu. I am totally new to ubuntu. can anyone help.
[09:26] <hyprv> i require help with my partitioning and managing two hard disks. i don't know if my current setup is even using my second hdd. i would like linux to use the two hdds as one, or show both of them in my file browser.
[09:26] <HappyHater> why & what for?
[09:27] <qmemo> its buggy
[09:27] <manfish> hi there
[09:27] <qmemo> I even submetted a bug there
[09:27] <io_> hi everybody
[09:27] <qmemo> wait I 'll get you a link
[09:27] <adamw9678> sn9: have you found somthing?
[09:27] <HappyHater> haven't tried it personally, just know it uses fluxbox
[09:27] <sn9> adamw9678: evtouch, not fpit, for you. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch
[09:28] <cih997> hi, im looking for IM which can import Gadu-Gadu history from original IM?
[09:28] <sn9> adamw9678: you will need some manual configuration
[09:28] <salutis> hi everybody. I have question - it's possible perform installation of package with apt-get or aptitude _without_ starting of service? for example - install 'ssh' package, but _only_ install, no start daemon
[09:28] <whoppix> ok, to put it another way.. why does "chroot chroot/" to chroot into the mounted system not work? It says that it can't find /bin/bash - but its definitely there. I also tried chroot chroot/ /bin/sh, which is definitely there too - still no success.
[09:28] <adamw9678> Thanks I'll give that a go
[09:29] <sn9> salutis: not easily
[09:29] <mark_> I am having trouble getting my two internal dvdrw drives to work in ubuntu. I am totally new to ubuntu. can anyone help.
[09:29] <sn9> whoppix: permissions!
[09:29] <salutis> sn9: not easily? it means not possible?
[09:30] <iustinus> blankthemuffin: After installing the envyng driver and running nvidia-xconfig, I still have shite screen resolutions. =/
[09:30] <whoppix> sn9, needs to be executable? let me check.
[09:30] <SkinnYPup> what is the rmdir switch to remove regardless if directory is empty ?
[09:30] <HappyHater> iustinus, run gksudo displayconfig-gtk and setup your monitor
[09:30] <whoppix> sn9, i can simply write: /mnt/chroot/bin/bash - and i will get a new bash
[09:30] <whoppix> so it should be executable & readable
[09:30] <Quentusrex> I'm trying to rip a dvd with mythbuntu. But MythDVD and libdvdcss 1.2.9 are failing. Is there any hope?
[09:31] <sn9> SkinnYPup: there is none, but you can rm -r
[09:31] <ManualOverDozer8> why are FireFox and VLC such memory hogs ?
[09:31] <SkinnYPup> rm OH thanks !
[09:32] <iustinus> HappyHater: My monitor isn't listed.
[09:32] <sn9> Quentusrex: there was a libdvdcss2 bug that got fixed. search the forums for it
[09:32] <ManualOverDozer8> FireFox comsumes 10 times more memory than IE in MS. is there a reason for this ?
[09:32] <HappyHater> pick something similar then
[09:32] <Photosynthesis> chsh -s zsh
[09:33] <sn9> whoppix: 777?
[09:33] <hyprv> i require help with my partitioning and managing two hard disks. i don't know if my current setup is even using my second hdd. i would like linux to use the two hdds as one, or show both of them in my file browser.
[09:33] <qmemo> HappyHater, https://bugs.launchpad.net/fluxbuntu-project/+bug/253466
[09:33] <whoppix> sn9, i copied the bash binary to bash2, put chmod 777 on it, and tried to run "chroot chroot/ /bin/bash2" - still says "file not found"
[09:33] <Photosynthesis> hyprv: use LVM
[09:33] <ManualOverDozer8> hyprv you can use Partition Editor for that
[09:34] <sn9> whoppix: try sash
[09:34] <hyprv> is it fairly straight forward?
[09:34] <Photosynthesis> LVM is not trival and good chance of blowing up your data, fore  warning, BACKUP
[09:34] <ManualOverDozer8> hyprv System/Administration/Partion Editor  oh yes
[09:34] <whoppix> sn9, sash? whats that? i don't habe a program named like that.
[09:34] <X3> I need help troubleshootin my nic card PLAESE
[09:34] <ManualOverDozer8> prethyprv relatively easy to run
[09:34] <Flannel> hyprv: setting up with LVM is fairly easy, yes.
[09:34] <sn9> whoppix: stand-alone shell. install it
[09:35] <hyprv> i do not have partition editor under that menu
[09:35] <whoppix> sn9, ah, ok. Thats, ill try that.
[09:35] <iustinus> eixt
[09:35] <Photosynthesis> maybe there is a nice GUI for LVM now.... like mentioned by our fellowmen
[09:35] <iustinus> exit
[09:35] <hyprv> do i need to install it through aptitude?
[09:35] <LupoBluAlfa> haloooo
[09:35] <Photosynthesis> ya
[09:35] <Photosynthesis> yooooo
[09:35] <adamw9678> sn9: ok that worked now how do I configuer it please mate?
[09:35] <hyprv> sweet
[09:35] <whoppix> sn9, however - when i can't use /bin/bash and /bin/sh anyway, i will propably not be able to use dpkg and such either, so there would be no point in chrooting
[09:36] <drugo> hello
[09:36] <sn9> adamw9678: you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:36] <qmemo> HappyHater, did you read it?
[09:36] <sn9> whoppix: oh, right...
[09:36] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo: did you get that worked out ?
[09:36] <drugo> no it didn't
[09:36] <hyprv> i'm pretty new to linux.. what does one DO here, besites figure out how every detail works?
[09:36] <sn9> whoppix: however, you could install it into the outside system
[09:36] <HappyHater> nuh uh, doing other tings atm
[09:36] <adamw9678> sn9: All in the terminal? sorry I'v only just started using the terminal
[09:37] <ManualOverDozer8> drugoL is it that it doesnt keep the settings rather than not working at all ?
[09:37] <drugo> i get the same error like "application nm-applet (/usr/bin/nm-applet) wants to enter the defauld keyring but this is blocked '
[09:37] <debCarlos> Hey, in theory, if i make a ram partition from hal91 (Floppy dist) , copy all filesystem to it and chroot it. I'll be able to remove the Floppy and continue using hal91?
[09:37] <root> 000
[09:37] <drugo> *default
[09:37] <whoppix> sn9, and, apparently the dpkg on the rescue system (debian) is dysfunctional, it barfs about not finding subprocesses (post-removal scripts, etc) - so i can't install anything into the system using the rescue-systems dpkg either
[09:37] <sn9> adamw9678: it will actually be easier in the Terminal, yes
[09:37] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : interfaces entry > wireless-essid "YOURSSID"
[09:38] <sn9> adamw9678: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:38] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo: let me check the leases file for info regaurding last lease
[09:38] <whoppix> sn9, i will try to install the package by hand, putting the files in the appropriate directories myself, or so.
[09:38] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo: nope, only ip type info
[09:38] <adamw9678> sn9: ok im in there
[09:39] <Photosynthesis> drugo: reboot, at grub menu select kernel and hit 'e' then add  init=/bin/bash   and you will boot in as root no password and you can then edit some files to gain control again, which files they are yo u will have yo yahooooo or goooogle
[09:39] <sn9> whoppix: i think chroot isn't working because the rescue system is hosed
[09:39] <hyprv> ManualOverDozer8:  what is the name of that partition tool? lvm appears to be only command line
[09:39] <sn9> hyprv: gparted
[09:39] <whoppix> sn9, hm, how to unpack .debs again? something with mkio?
[09:39] <hyprv> thx
[09:39] <whoppix> cpio?
[09:39] <Flannel> drugo: Choose the recovery console, you don't need to edit anything.
[09:39] <ManualOverDozer8> hyprv Partiton Editor or you can use gpart
[09:39] <sn9> whoppix: dpkg -x, i thing
[09:39] <sn9> *think
[09:40] <whoppix> sn9, thanks a bunch.
[09:40] <Flannel> drugo: But, you don't need to do that, because you don't have a problem that reuires that.
[09:41] <whoppix> sn9, i extracted the libc into the target ubuntu system, now ill try to reboot it - fingers crossed. I guess if that doesn't work, i need to re-install.
[09:42] <hyprv> thx for help
[09:42] <hyprv> cheers
[09:42] <frankg> error using cpan on ubuntu-804 -- help --> http://pastebin.com/m5ca63775
[09:42] <adamw9678> sn9: What do I do now? sorry to be a pain
[09:43]  * frankg is hungry :(
[09:43] <sn9> adamw9678: details at http://www.akos.uklinux.net/biblo-linux/
[09:44] <Lycus> Just wanted to thank blankthemuffin & HappyHater for helping me (iustinus), finally got the computer's resolution working as it should.
[09:44]  * salutis waiting for answer :(
[09:44] <Lycus> salutis: What was your Q?
[09:44] <salutis> Lycus: if it's possible perform installation of package with apt-get or aptitude _without_ starting of service. for example - install 'ssh' package, but _only_ install, not start daemon. how to do this?
[09:46] <debCarlos> Anyone here was nicknamed superfirelord42 two weeks ago?
[09:47] <Lycus> salutis: Not that I know of
[09:48] <max____> is there anyway to get ps to show me how much ram each process is using?
[09:48] <Begasus> sn9, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-06/msg03035.html this helped me out
[09:48] <Lycus> salutis: You can just do && /etc/init.d/blah stop with the install
[09:50] <whoppix> max____, because of linux' concept of "shared libraries" it is not possible to determine the exact memory usage of a process.
[09:50] <max____> what about top?
[09:50] <adamw9678> Thanks
[09:50] <salutis> Lycus: yes, I know. problem is that list of packages is generated. second thing is that I don't want to start services. it's for script which do modifications of live-usb system
[09:51] <whoppix> max____, the values top shows are, as far as i know, only roundabout values, that include the shared libraries. So if you would count together all the values top tells you, you would get more MB that you actually have
[09:51] <sn9> adamw9678: you may also need to add "evdev" to /etc/modules
[09:51] <adamw9678> What do I do after I typed the details into nano? do I just close it?
[09:51] <sn9> adamw9678: ctrl-X
[09:52] <adamw9678> Then anser yes and then I can close
[09:52] <sn9> adamw9678: you can close when you see the $ prompt again
[09:52] <chuxxsss> Hi all
[09:53] <whoppix> max____, here: http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html
[09:53] <drugo> no way , nm-applet always asks to authenticate at the start-up
[09:53] <sn9> !hi | chuxxsss
[09:54] <drugo> i have to put my root password and not the wireless key
[09:54] <chuxxsss> does anyone no how to set access to the network tool as I have lost access to it now, but had it before
[09:54] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : by "ask for authenticate" do you mean to get into the settings ? and not that the connection is void ?
[09:54] <adamw9678> I said yes and it says  file Name to Write: /etc/x11/xorg.conf  what do I do?
[09:54] <sn9> adamw9678: enter
[09:55] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : you will find youself being asked for root pass quite often on system settings
[09:55] <drugo> no , once i put my login pass the connections starts and everithing is fine
[09:55] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : should work if you edited your interfaces file correctly but then there is always that "glitch" on some systems
[09:55] <MenZa> we'r/w 20
[09:55] <inflex> How can I stop Ubuntu/Gnome/WM from capturing F10 as the file-menu select?
[09:56] <adamw9678> Then it says  [  Error writing /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory ]  ???
[09:56] <chuxxsss> yes the settings
[09:56] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : things like that only cause more problems if you mess with them too much , if not cut funtionality complete
[09:56] <sn9> adamw9678: maybe you originally typed x11 instead of X11
[09:56] <ManualOverDozer8> drugo : if it only takes a few clicks to connect, i would be satisfied with that
[09:57] <adamw9678> I think I did :(
[09:57] <sn9> adamw9678: close and start again
[09:58] <adamw9678> sn9: from the instal?l
[09:58] <sn9> adamw9678: i thought you already had the system installed
[09:58] <sn9> adamw9678: i mean "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" again
[09:59] <adamw9678> Ok sorry
[09:59] <max______> does anyone here use vim+latex
[10:01] <thefish> hi
[10:01] <sn9> !hi | thefish
[10:01] <thefish> anyone here using something free as in beer to update a lot of ubuntu machines?
[10:01] <X3> if I go to system >control center>Network tools and highlight my nic card I get this message your interface (my nic card) does not exist check that it is connected (yes it is im using it now) and that it is suppoted by your OS
[10:01] <Flannel> !anyone | max______
[10:01] <thefish> hi sn9 :)
[10:02] <cp> odo, sono sempre istanza dal portatile.... collegato con cavo tutto ok, queste ultime righe di messages:
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:23 asus kernel: [  134.810939] eth0: link on 100 Mbps Full Duplex mode.
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:23 asus dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.reason
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:23 asus kernel: [  134.931893] eth0: mii ext = 0000.
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:23 asus kernel: [  134.947866] eth0: mii lpa = 45e1 adv = 01e1.
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:23 asus kernel: [  134.947871] eth0: link on 100 Mbps Full Duplex mode.
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:25 asus kernel: [  137.141950] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:29 asus dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:29 asus dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.domain_name
[10:02] <thefish> anyone care to suggest an alternative wording to my previous question?
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:29 asus dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.nis_domain
[10:02] <enzo> hi
[10:02] <sn9> !it | cp
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:29 asus dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.nis_servers
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:29 asus dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.interface_mtu
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:30 asus kernel: [  141.669843] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[10:02] <FloodBot2> cp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <cp> Aug  1 10:55:30 asus kernel: [  141.670165] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[10:03] <X3> if I go to system >control center>Network tools and highlight my nic card I get this message your interface (my nic card) does not exist check that it is connected (yes it is im using it now) and that it is suppoted by your OS
[10:03] <enzo> i'd like to compile something with phpize, but it's not on my ubuntu, which package should i install for that ?
[10:03] <Odo> cp, move to ubuntu-it please and don't paste here use !paste
[10:03] <cp> ok
[10:04] <X3> if I go to system >control center>Network tools and highlight my nic card I get this message your interface (my nic card) does not exist check that it is connected (yes it is im using it now) and that it is suppoted by your OS
[10:04] <Flannel> !repeat | X3
[10:04] <X3> can anyone help please
[10:04] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 : state your issue, and if someone can, they will
[10:04] <X3> I repeat bacuse no one listens or cares
[10:04] <ManualOverDozer8> yes they see you
[10:05] <X3> I stated my issue no one seems intersted
[10:05] <Quentusrex> I'm trying to use MythDVD with Mythbuntu to copy a movie(movies: "War" and "Minority Report") VLC and Xine can play the movies fine. Mplayer and mtd(Myth transcode deamon) both crash. Any ideas?
[10:05] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 have you installed your drivers ?
[10:05] <X3> I have done all banal and trivial things I only come in chat rooms when its last reort
[10:06] <PucKid> hi everyone, i would like to ask someone, how can i change my mac address ?
[10:06] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 what shows up in Network Tools ? does it even show "Loopback" ?
[10:06] <cjk> hi, i would like to create my own apt repository but i would like to keep some packages in sync with the official apt repositories? is there any solution to this?
[10:06] <X3> drivers where intalled by system I would like to kow if there is a way to get better divers
[10:06] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 does loopback show up ?
[10:06] <X3> yes shows loopback
[10:06] <Flannel> cjk: check out apt-proxy
[10:07] <X3> can I send u dcc
[10:07] <Alloosh> hi, I have 8.4 installed and working great, for the sake of knowledge I would like to try fedora, is there a way to have both of them installed?
[10:07] <blankthemuffin> X3, Look up google for linux drivers for your network card.
[10:07] <djtamse> hello
[10:07] <ManualOverDozer8> x3 ok, do you know what kind of network card you have ?
[10:07] <X3> not on linux it wont tell me what card I have
[10:07] <djtamse> i wonder if some one could help me with logitech g15
[10:07] <babo> how do i generate a timestamp again ?
[10:07] <sn9> Quentusrex: libdvdcss2 bug; search the forums for the answer
[10:07] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 L what does this show > sudo lshw -C network
[10:07] <silv3r_m00n> hello room
[10:07] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 : do that in terminal
[10:08] <sn9> djtamse: is that a camera?
[10:08] <silv3r_m00n> hows everybody
[10:08] <djtamse> sn9 no it is a keyboard :)
[10:08] <djtamse> gameing keyboard
[10:08] <babo> how do i generate a timestamp from the command line anyone ?
[10:08] <sn9> babo: date +%c
[10:08] <ozkelligirl> hi everyone
[10:09] <sn9> !hi | ozkelligirl
[10:09] <dasu> Ugh, why does irssi have to be so complex. :(
[10:09] <legend2440> djtamse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15
[10:10] <Quentusrex> sn9, I searched the forums. I can't find the mention of it.
[10:10] <ozkelligirl> hi ubottu
[10:10] <silv3r_m00n> friends i need a theme that can make gnome look clean and professional
[10:10] <silv3r_m00n> anybody....
[10:10] <dasu> emerald
[10:10] <godmode117> i need help
[10:10] <enterneo> I have mounted the hfs+ storage partition for read-only access, however there is a permission issue, i do not wish to access the partition everytime with the root priveledge, how can I make ubuntu not respect OSX permission sets?
[10:10] <ManualOverDozer8> gnome-themes
[10:10] <ozkelligirl> hi sn9
[10:10] <djtamse> legend2440 thank you i will give it a try :)
[10:10] <sn9> Quentusrex: there are mentions of specific movie discs
[10:10] <babo> sn9: thanks
[10:10] <godmode117> when i start utorrent all the ports stuff works great then it stop working so good (like the ports arent forwarded anymore)
[10:11] <babo> sn9: that doesn't generate a timestamp
[10:11] <djtamse> legend2440 ive got the clock worked on my display on the g15 keyboar
[10:11] <djtamse> d
[10:11] <sn9> enterneo: i don't think there is a way
[10:11] <ManualOverDozer8> godmode117 it could be there isnt enough seeders, it may not be your connection or ports
[10:11] <Quentusrex> sn9, do you know of a link?
[10:11] <X3> manualoverdoze8: http://pastebin.ca/1089492
[10:11] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[10:11] <Quentusrex> I can't find it with google or the search...
[10:11] <Quentusrex> sorry if it's obvious
[10:11] <gladideg> Is there a working SFV-CRC check/verifier for proFTPD, that works with ubuntu?
[10:11] <sn9> godmode117: turn on UPnP
[10:12] <godmode117> ok ill try it and report back
[10:12] <De[X]tone> guys, its time to say goodbye
[10:12] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 : ok you have nVidia MCP73 Ethernet
[10:12] <sn9> De[X]tone: goodbye
[10:12] <X3> so can I get better drivers for that or no?
[10:12] <X3>  and if so where
[10:12]  * De[X]tone 's 0ff1c3 h0urs its over... :P
[10:13] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 : i can see what i can do and check for you, give me a min or two
[10:13] <De[X]tone> thx to u all
[10:13] <PeugguEEE> joo
[10:13] <X3> plase thx
[10:13] <ManualOverDozer8> X3L Hardy  ?
[10:13] <godmode117> sn9: that didnt work
[10:13] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 what Distro of linux ?
[10:14] <X3> ubuntu hardy 8.04.1
[10:14] <Quentusrex> sn9, what's the link? I can't find it... :(
[10:14] <sn9> godmode117: on in both utorrent and the router
[10:14] <X3> kernel 2.26.24-20
[10:14] <X3> kernel 2.6.24-20
[10:14] <supert0nes> has anyone here installed the compiz tile plugin?
[10:14] <cjk> Flannel, thanks
[10:15] <godmode117> sn9: yes
[10:15] <ManualOverDozer8> X# ok, may take me a bit, please be patient
[10:15] <KING> when i play dvds it looks chopy
[10:15] <X3> k thx
[10:15] <godmode117> its definatly not a port forwarding screw up
[10:15] <cjk> other question, how is the priority defined. what happens if i define more sources and the package exists in many of them. which is taken first?
[10:16] <Flannel> cjk: Highest version number, unless you've set up preferences
[10:16] <Flannel> cjk: by default (and without doing anything else), it'll always take highest version number
[10:16] <boris_> hello
[10:16] <KING> who is the person to ask about dvd playback
[10:16] <Quentusrex> me
[10:16] <godmode117> this program must be messing with me...
[10:17] <godmode117> 5 minutes ago the connection was green and speeds were great
[10:17] <Quentusrex> I'm asking about DVD playback
[10:17] <cjk> Flannel, thanks. everything covered
[10:17] <godmode117> now the icon is green but shit speeds
[10:17] <Dans34> ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[10:17] <godmode117> and now its yellow
[10:17] <boris_> should i change my xfs fstab from realtime to noatime,nodiratime ?
[10:17] <godmode117> soon to be red...
[10:18] <c03> hi
[10:18] <c03> anyone installed maple?
[10:19] <DiViN3> Anyone Here knows how to proxify bots hostname when using homeserver using Tor+Privoxy+Vidalia
[10:19] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 that happens to appear to be an onboard ethernet.
[10:20] <X3> yes it is
[10:20] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 ok , you may just be able to get an update for your board and it will do that too, but, let me look some more
[10:20] <moreau> how do I find someones real IP if theyre on a proxy
[10:20] <X3> k
[10:21] <X3> its a packard bell imax3414
[10:21] <clusty> hey
[10:21] <sn9> moreau: ask them :)
[10:21] <moreau> he wont tell me sn9
[10:21] <rmorgan> hi all
[10:22] <DiViN3> Anyone Here knows how to proxify bots hostname when using homeserver using Tor+Privoxy+Vidalia
[10:22] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 did you say the ehternet was functional ?
[10:22] <X3> it is working but certain features dont
[10:22] <moreau> sn9 is there anyother way
[10:23] <X3> like for instance Im connected to here now via that nic
[10:23] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 what feature dont appear to be working ?
[10:23] <X3> I cant cinfigure the card
[10:23] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 in what way are you tryign to configure the card ?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> werd up y'alls
[10:24] <rmorgan> can anyone help me, in work we have a server which was running cent os with a static ip however using ubuntu i cannot get it to aquire an ip or use a static one and have connectivity
[10:24] <rmorgan> i am 100% certain that the ip netmask gateway and broadcast are all right
[10:24] <rmorgan> dns is set
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: what happens if you use static?
[10:25] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 google is giving me way too many irrelavent hits to my liking, afterall they do great video business and most of them are that
[10:25] <rmorgan> it sets everything when checked in ifconfig but no connectivity
[10:25] <pobbel> G'day all
[10:25] <X3> to make it accept other commands like wol and give out linkspeed at what it is connected at
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: can you ping or tracert any IPs / WWW
[10:25] <rmorgan> none
[10:25] <rmorgan> not even the gateway
[10:25] <salutis> rmorgan: and do you have default route set? for eth0 you can try 'sudo route add default eth0'
[10:25] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 it should auto detect link speed
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: do you have lights flashing?
[10:26] <X3> it doesnts
[10:26] <rmorgan> yes
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[10:26] <DiViN3> rmorgan : have You Try To DMZ your router n restart both ur router n unix box
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: what do you get if you use dhcp?
[10:26] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 just a little tip, i dont think there is any desktop computer that can handle the max throughput of any netcard.
[10:26] <X3> Link speed (not available)
[10:26] <rmorgan> i havent tried the route setting give me 2 secs while i venture into the server room
[10:26] <|MUSE|> !rhythmbox
[10:26] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 10mbit is huge, nevermind 100mbit
[10:26] <rmorgan> dhcp comes back with 169.****
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: use sshd bro, you have a network...use it
[10:27] <pobbel> I am looking for a mini pci wifi card, what chipsets have less issues with ubuntu?
[10:27] <X3> thats is not what im tryimg tpo acieve
[10:27] <|MUSE|> !rhythmbox-dev
[10:27] <X3> Link speed (not available)
[10:27] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 ok, elaborate please
[10:27] <rmorgan> action did you forget what my prob is?
[10:27] <rmorgan> no network connectivity
[10:27] <sn9> pobbel: depends on what you want to use it for
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: try a different cable or port on the interconnectivity device and restart both
[10:27] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 do you see that the internet is slow or lagging ?
[10:27] <DiViN3> pobbel : Try Using Intel based wireless card 99.8% No Problem
[10:28] <X3> a litte
[10:28] <pobbel> sn9: just home wifi
[10:28] <sn9> DiViN3: intel wireless == no AP mode
[10:28] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 as far as driver support that is a hardware issue, and configuration is not a Ubuntu issue.
[10:28] <X3> network is on iddle for most of it and there are no viruses or whatever before you ask
[10:28] <pobbel> DiVin3: thanks will keep that in mind when looking
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[10:29] <R1cochet> i just recently downloaded ubuntu live cd and am having problems connecting to internet
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> woah!
[10:29] <R1cochet> can the live cd connect to internet?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> R1cochet: ok do you see your device from ifconfig
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> R1cochet: absolutely
[10:29] <R1cochet> ok cool
[10:29] <blankthemuffin> X3, you're going to have to go find drivers for your motherboard.
[10:29] <R1cochet> well im actually back in windows atm
[10:29] <pobbel> DiViN3: so long as it doesn't fall in the 0.2%
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> R1cochet: live is as good as installed, just that changes arent permanent
[10:29] <ManualOverDozer8> X3 the driver for that network card is probbably packed with the motherboard stuff, but that is not an Ubuntu issue..
[10:29] <R1cochet> trying to make the switch
[10:29] <sn9> Quentusrex: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-652528.html
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> R1cochet: bring up a terminal and type ifconfig, do you see eth0 or wlan0 or anything like that?
[10:30] <aestrivex> i am having issues getting gothic 2 to run in wine; the error code the terminal produces is wine: Unhandled page fault on execute access to 0x0162fd78 at address 0x162fd78 (thread 0009), starting debugger...Unhandled exception: page fault on execute access to 0x0162fd78 in 32-bit code (0x0162fd78).
[10:30] <Quentusrex> thanks sn9
[10:30] <R1cochet> ive seen etho
[10:31] <aestrivex> i have tried a variety of configuration options
[10:31] <X3> I see that ubuntu is not ready for many machines cause it is failing to read the card
[10:31] <R1cochet> ive seen eth0
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> ok so whats the output of ifconfig eth0
[10:31] <X3> noit hardware issue here
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> !paste | R1cochet
[10:31] <aestrivex> can anyone tell me if the error message is related to 64-bit architecture compatibility problems?
[10:31] <X3> works fine in windows
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> R1cochet: put the output in there
[10:31] <aestrivex> wine: Unhandled page fault on execute access to 0x0162fd78 at address 0x162fd78 (thread 0009), starting debugger...Unhandled exception: page fault on execute access to 0x0162fd78 in 32-bit code (0x0162fd78).
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: tried winehq?
[10:31] <aestrivex> the 32-bit code reference scares me a bit
[10:31] <R1cochet> im using windows atm
[10:32] <R1cochet> ok will do
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: www.winehq.com
[10:32] <blankthemuffin> You're pulling a big troll by the looks X3, but in case you're not. It's not Ubuntu, it's you not having drivers for your card, it's the same as in windows, you need drivers before it will work.
[10:32] <aestrivex> yes, ive looked at the appDB
[10:32] <aestrivex> i cant find any reason that it doesnt work
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: whats the score
[10:32] <X3> but you said that its not ubuntu issue
[10:32] <ManualOverDozer8> i will hold further comments on that X3 , its not rude, but not the subject of this channel
[10:32] <aestrivex> @ActionParsnip: it varies from gold to silver to platinum
[10:32] <X3> in windows it worrks fine
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: ok cool
[10:33] <HappyHater> everybody makes their drivers for windows, get the *nix driver and install it
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452673
[10:33] <sn9> X3: blame nvidia for their open hostility to the community
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> sn9: nvidia love the open community, ati are horrible
[10:34] <aestrivex> ActionParsnip: i've tried everything in that thread
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5479259#post5479259
[10:34] <X3> well its not easy whn I ask for help here and I nearly have to do a riot to get noticed
[10:34] <sn9> ActionParsnip: i suppose you can get X3's ethernet to work? my ati ethernet works perfectly
[10:34] <aestrivex> ActionParsnip: thats my thread lol
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: have you got a successful install
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> sn9: try ndiswrapper ;)
[10:35] <sn9> X3: good idea -- try ndiswrapper
[10:35] <ManualOverDozer8> good suggestion
[10:35]  * ActionParsnip bows
[10:35] <aestrivex> ActionParsnip: i think so; my install was a little bit odd because it didnt let me open the CD drive, but i copied the CDs to disk and the install appeared to work fine
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: ok cool
[10:35] <ManualOverDozer8> afterall that is the same driver as the "working good in windows" one
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: did you get te native dlls
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> *the
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: apparently winehq says it needs some windows files
[10:37] <aestrivex> ActionParsnip: yes, i tried that. i'm not sure i did that completely correctly, but even with sound disabled it doesnt work
[10:37] <pobbel> DiViN3: Do the intel based wifi chipsets still usually require ndiswrapper or is ubuntu able to support them as is i.e. linux drivers?
[10:37] <aestrivex> ActionParsnip: those DLLs are only for getting the sound working
[10:37] <sn9> DiViN3: no, very few chipsets need ndiswrapper anymore
[10:37] <sn9> pobbel: no, very few chipsets need ndiswrapper anymore
[10:38] <sn9> pobbel: are you wanting to replace an existing MiniPCI?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: oic, ok
[10:38] <DiViN3> sn9 : intel based chipset dsnt need any source for drivers or anything
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: theres no loki installer either :(
[10:39] <pobbel> sn9: thats good, I am still having issues with my current linksys based card, it is easier to get another card given tha amount of time I have tried sorting it out.
[10:39] <DiViN3> u can simply get connected  even when u tap wireless connection
[10:39] <sn9> pobbel: LNE100TX?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> pobbel: what do you get from lspci regarding the card
[10:40] <X3> sn9 ndiswrapper?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: then all i'll be doing is websearching as you do man, sorry
[10:40] <sn9> X3: it's usually for wifi, but supports ethernet, too
[10:40] <X3> is that available on synaptic?
[10:41] <pobbel> sn9: neti2220 /  inprocomm   ipn2220
[10:41] <sn9> X3: yes
[10:41] <sn9> pobbel: yecchh
[10:41] <aestrivex> ActionParsnip: i run x86_64; what i'm sort of concerned about is whether or not this error code suggests an architecture compatibility problem
[10:41] <aestrivex> wine: Unhandled page fault on execute access to 0x0162fd78 at address 0x162fd78 (thread 0009), starting debugger...Unhandled exception: page fault on execute access to 0x0162fd78 in 32-bit code (0x0162fd78).
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> X3: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> X3: dont bother with synaptic, its slow
[10:41] <pobbel> ActionParsnip:  Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
[10:42] <DiViN3> anyone here wanna trade shells
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> pobbel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133492
[10:42] <sn9> pobbel: inprocomm driver situation is *blows raspberry*
[10:42] <X3> actionparsnip how do I accesss that too; when installed
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> X3: read the post
[10:42] <pobbel> ActionParsnip: I have tried two different drivers, one from the manufacturer, and one listed on ndiswrapper, they both work but both have the same annoying problem.
[10:42] <ManualOverDozer8> RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI   works right after install no intervention needed
[10:43] <X3> k thx
[10:43] <sn9> pobbel: you got the worst possible card in the world for linux
[10:43]  * eclectro how do I remove the "restricted driver" icon in gnome??
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> i use a netgear 311GT PCI works out of the box
[10:43] <KING> i had to do a reinstall of ubuntu and python is not on the konsole any more
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> sn9: could be a broadcom in an acer laptop
[10:44] <sn9> pobbel: as long as you replace it with *anything* else, you're good to go. even broadcom, ActionParsnip
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> KING: sudo apt-get install python
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> sn9: i hate broadcom lots
[10:44] <pobbel> sn9: gee thanks, I don't feel so bad now.  I thought I was stuffing something up, but its just the card
[10:44] <DiViN3> sn9 : Acer r mainly using broadcom
[10:44] <aestrivex> oddly though, somebody wrote a platinum review for the game with debian unstable x86_64
[10:45]  * mandork_y AHaHaHaHaHa LOOOL watch this xD http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/iclk?sa=l&ai=BZbR3_dqSSObSB4rG0gbc5OnnDOLGrA6K0aawAcCNtwGAlyIQBBgEIO32rhEoBDgAUM-nkaUEYO383YWsG6AB3JON_wOyARN3d3cuc2NpZW5jZW5vZGUuY29tugEJNzI4eDkwX2FzyAEB2gEqaHR0cDovL3d3dy5zY2llbmNlbm9kZS5jb20vZm9ydW0vaW5kZXgucGhwqAMByAMH6AO_AegDvAPoA7QD9QMAAwAAiAQBkAQBmAQA&num=4&adurl=http://www.cctv.net/category_s/24.htm&client=ca-pub-9539072959402171&nm=4
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> aestrivex: then read it and see what they did, if it doesnt say. email to ask him/her
[10:45] <KING> well i have python but there is no tab for it there
[10:45] <sn9> ActionParsnip: nobody really likes broadcom, but i'd still prefer them (or anyone) over inprocomm any day
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> sn9: id try get something that worked personally
[10:45] <DiViN3> well broadcom can be easily configure to be used for any linux distro
[10:46] <aestrivex> ActionParsnip: all right, i'll try that. thanks
[10:46] <sn9> ActionParsnip: actually, most broadcom chips do work reasonably now
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> sn9: oh i agree, id rather make an intelligent purchase to knock some effort off my installations
[10:48] <pobbel> ActionParsnip: I think I had read that post some time in the blurry past, in the fog of despair
[10:48] <sn9> ActionParsnip: intelligent? maybe a chipmaker that cooperates with the community, then?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> sn9: basically yeah, linksys are usually good but i always check makes and models for my country to make sure they use a friendly chip
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> that will ljust work
[10:50] <sn9> ActionParsnip: all the wifi chipmakers are hostile in their own ways
[10:50] <sn9> ActionParsnip: you just gotta weigh the evils
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> sn9: my netgear works a treat
[10:50] <sn9> ActionParsnip: what chip is it?
[10:50] <Rampou> hello
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sn9: let me putty and i'll get you the lspci
[10:51] <xnv> Rampou: Salutations
[10:51] <AKISHA> i have problem with lsmod: http://pastebin.com/m284ea3bb , what should i do ?
[10:51] <Rampou> i would wish to know if someone get sources.list for ahrdy heron 8.04 beacuse i have made naughty stuff with it..
[10:51] <Rampou> xnv, salutations aussi !
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sn9:  01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01)
[10:52] <xnv> Rampou: Aussi?
[10:52] <Rampou> xnv, salutations me too
[10:52] <sn9> ActionParsnip: i have one of those, but from d-link
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sn9: works on a fresh install of gutsy, no problems whatsoever
[10:52] <sn9> ActionParsnip: except that it taints the kernel
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sn9: huh?
[10:53] <xnv> AKISHA: Have you been compiling the kernel yourself?
[10:53] <Rampou> xnv, i've believied you said it in french but i've just realize taht salutations is in both language
[10:53] <sn9> ActionParsnip: binary-only modules with no source code
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sn9: i dont mind that, it works
[10:53] <sn9> ActionParsnip: oh, right, you actually defended nvidia...
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sn9: im not a developer so i dont need source code
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> sn9: i just want my system to work
[10:54] <Rampou> nobody gets a cool new sources.list files fr me please?
[10:54] <AKISHA> xnv i got kernel from this isp where this is located
[10:54] <Rampou> hardy heron 8.04
[10:54] <ramontayag> i followed these instructions (http://railshacks.blogspot.com/2008/08/installing-latest-gvim-and-vim-in.html) to install the latest version of gvim.. and now i have 2 packages  (vim-gnome and vim-tiny) that are broken because they aren't the packages available in ubuntu's repos. how do i ignore them?
[10:54] <moreau> how do i set opera as my default browser
[10:55] <xnv> AKISHA: Well, is there any reason you can't follow the instructions given via Google?
[10:55] <sn9> ActionParsnip: i don't mind extra setup if it means using a more sustainable code ecosystem :)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> sn9: fair play. I just want it to work. hence nvidia, nice n easy
[10:57] <KING> how do i completly remove a program and the files
[10:57] <sothe> Hello, i'm a total noob on linux but i find it entertaining to try new stuff. But I have a problem,    I can't find the trash-can. anyone who knows where it is?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> haha awesome, whata gues
[10:58] <sn9> !junque
[10:58] <sothe> oh, thanx !
[10:58] <Photosynthesis> why move trash
[10:58] <legend2440> moreau: Go to System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications    choose opera
[10:58] <sothe> nothing to do?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Photosynthesis: god only knows
[10:59] <hybrid> i have a little problem with GRUB it wont find all my operative systems because one is on a raided disk
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Photosynthesis: you could symlink it
[10:59] <ramontayag> how do i ignore "broken" packages?
[11:00] <sn9> ramontayag: remove them
[11:00] <Photosynthesis> --force
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ramontayag: id run sudo apt-get -f install
[11:00] <ramontayag> if i want to keep them?
[11:00] <xnv> hybrid: Consider asking in #grub. Probably more knowledgeable about grub-specific issues
[11:00] <hybrid> oki thx
[11:00] <sn9> ramontayag: sudo apt-get --reinstall install vim-gnome
[11:00] <ul-> hey all
[11:01] <sothe> Ok, another thing about the trash...   how do i empty it?
[11:01] <Photosynthesis> right click trash can applet
[11:01] <ramontayag> sn9: sn9 - will that reinstall vim-gnome from the ubuntu repo?
[11:01] <sn9> ramontayag: or wherever
[11:02] <clusty> i am having some problems with setting the dns server for my router box. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:02] <Photosynthesis> using bind?
[11:02] <sn9> clusty: http://clusty.com :)
[11:02] <ul-> i have installed ubuntu, as dual boot with windows, however when i restart my machine there is no boot loader to choose which os, it simply loads windows xp...any ideas?
[11:02] <clusty> sn9, funny man :D
[11:02] <ramontayag> sn9: the thing is, it seems i can only install the latest version of vim-gnome (yes, that's actually what i wanted to install) if i do it manually, NOT thru the ubuntu repo.  but when i do it manually, the broken packages thing appears.
[11:02] <clusty> been googleing my eyes out
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !grub | ul-
[11:03] <Photosynthesis> u must have installed ubuntu THAN xp... bad... XP first then install ubuntu
[11:03] <ul-> thanks :D
[11:03] <ul-> no
[11:03] <ul-> i have xp installed already
[11:03] <sn9> ramontayag: sudo apt-get update
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Photosynthesis: id just install Xbuntu and stop there ;)
[11:03] <ul-> i installed ubuntu afterwards
[11:03] <ramontayag> sn9, it's still not the latest.
[11:03] <sothe> How to empty the trash-can?
[11:03] <ul-> i recall the order of operation so i was confuzzled :\
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> sothe: jump into the trash folder
[11:04] <sothe> yeah
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> sothe: if you are SURE you want it gone
[11:04] <sn9> ul-: are they on separate drives?
[11:04] <ul-> yeah
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> sothe: rm -rf ./*
[11:04] <sn9> ul-: bios, then
[11:04] <ul-> yeah, you're right :\
[11:04] <ramontayag> sn9, to get the latest i have to do this: http://railshacks.blogspot.com/2008/08/installing-latest-gvim-and-vim-in.html
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> sothe: make absolutely sure you are in the trash folder
[11:04] <sothe> oh, i have to do it that way... ok
[11:04] <redrebel> is there a way to optimize firefox such that has a lower memory footprint?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> use pwd
[11:05] <ramontayag> but that's not my problem.. i want to ignore broken packages. how do i do that? i want to keep those packages installed though.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> sothe: rm -rf is a VERY agressive remove so use it wisely
[11:05] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: better would just be /home/user/.local/share/Trash/*
[11:05] <sothe> yeah, i'll do.   or i'll try ^^
[11:05] <Photosynthesis> ul: ya then you installed the GRUB boot loader on the second disk .. so reboot and set your BIOS to boot second disk
[11:05] <sn9> ramontayag: don't use broken packages
[11:05] <ul-> this all makes sense :)
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> sothe: -r == recursive, f == force
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: you can replace /home/user with ~/
[11:06] <ul-> however can i install grub on first disk and point it at ubuntu on my second disk?
[11:06] <sothe> ok, thanx for the help. it worked :D
[11:06] <ul-> on the*
[11:06] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: not necessarily.  which is why its better to be explicit.
[11:06] <Rampou> see you
[11:06] <Rampou> ++
[11:06] <ramontayag> okay.. i'll be in a bit of a rut then. the version of gvim that i need is later than what is available in ubuntu repositories. how do i install the latest gvim and not have broken packages? is it possible?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> sothe: dont go using that command too much you may delete something you need
[11:06] <Photosynthesis> ya u have to look at one up.... reinstall grub ( google it )
[11:06] <ul-> coolio
[11:06] <ul-> :D
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> sothe: its like deltree in windows
[11:07] <sn9> !prevu | ramontayag
[11:07] <ul-> will try it
[11:07] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: when dealing with recursive and force, better to type a little more than have it backfire
[11:07] <ul-> thanks
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: i always cd to the directory rather than typing paths, then use pwd to check
[11:07] <Photosynthesis> ul: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[11:07] <Photosynthesis> is a start
[11:08] <ul-> Photosynthesis: i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:08] <massmc> anyone here been able to run dreamweaver under wine?
[11:08] <ul-> it explains how to get grub going
[11:08] <Photosynthesis> ul: there u go :)
[11:09] <moreau> thanks legend
[11:09] <Photosynthesis> massmc: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1054
[11:09] <rmorgan> action: im still having no luck with connectivity have rebooted switch firewall and unix box and dns server
[11:10] <sn9> rmorgan: what's the symptom?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: does the cable work with a known good system
[11:10] <rmorgan> yes just tried that
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> sn9: no dhcp and no lan connectivity
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: got a spare NIC?
[11:10] <rmorgan> there are 4 in the server
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> does it work on any?
[11:11] <rmorgan> none
[11:11] <KING> sudo pppoeconf
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> crap
[11:11] <moreau> anyone know a way i can find an IP adress of someone hidden behing a proxy?
[11:11] <sn9> ActionParsnip: maybe rmorgan has the same issue as X3
[11:11] <massmc> Photosynthesis, just what I was after, thank you
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> sn9: he can set ip addresses and stuff but gets no connectivity
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: do all 4 NICs show up in lspci?
[11:12] <ramontayag> sn9, thanks, i'll check that out. i'll learn what backporting is about :)
[11:12] <sn9> ActionParsnip: what chipset does he have?
[11:12] <pobbel> ActionParsnip: intel PRO 2200 the sort of thing you were talking about?
[11:12] <sn9> pobbel: that works
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> pobbel: not sure. was a while back
[11:13] <sn9> pobbel: i would recommend a ralink RT2800 in the long term, but that won't work out-of-the-box yet
[11:14] <pobbel> sn9: they seem fairly common, is WAP the norm or still better to stick with WEP for now, I have read there were issues with WAP but not sure what the progress is
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> rmorgan: if all 4 are installed ok then the only common thing we havent changed over is the router (?)
[11:14] <rmorgan> action yes to lspci
[11:14] <trey> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:14] <juris> I use server edition+xubuntu-esktop. when I try to log in I have this session error: ux server already running xfce session unable to access file /home/juris/ICEauthority read only filesystem. I think it's because I chmoded juris folder 755 from root account. How to fix this? thanks for answers! :)
[11:14] <sn9> pobbel: WPA generally works in 8.04 for most drivers. biggest notable exception is Texas Instruments
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> juris: man chmod
[11:14] <trey> I installed the Xfce desktop manager in Ubuntu and IDK how to switch from gnome to it.
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> juris: or even better, man chown
[11:15] <juris> OK
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> trey: log off, select new environment, log in
[11:15] <rmorgan> action this system was running literally an hour ago on cent os until someone decided they wanted a reinstall but didnt back up
[11:15] <sn9> juris: your filesystem is corrupted, and your hard disk could be close to dead
[11:15] <pobbel> sn9: my current card does not support it but my router does so I have not really played with it
[11:15] <rmorgan> so i know the connectivity infrastructure works
[11:15] <trey> how do I select the new environment though?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> trey: look round the screen for things to click, you'll see it
[11:16] <juris> chown juris /home/juris?
[11:16] <trey> ok ill try
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> trey: something like session name
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> or type
[11:16] <trey> ill come back and tell u what I get.
[11:16] <trey> ok, is it gonna be at the login screen?
[11:16] <ManualOverDozer8> despite much tinkering with xorg.conf i cant seem to find out how to map my thumb button on my mouse to a function such as middle-click , any suggestions or links ?
[11:16] <rmorgan> yes trey select sessions bottom left at login
[11:16] <trey> ok
[11:16] <trey> brb
[11:17] <juris> sn9: yes, I have erros while booting... And it is new disk... :(
[11:17] <hybrid> has anyone tried the latest soundblaster drivers_
[11:17] <sn9> juris: if it's that new, maybe reinstall?
[11:17] <soundray> Hi, is there a way to simulate console keypresses while you're logged in remotely? I'm ssh'ing into a machine and I don't want it to appear idle.
[11:17] <juris> But I have errors: bad blocks or smthing while booting...
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ManualOverDozer8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318622 might help
[11:18] <sn9> !vinagre | soundray
[11:18] <sn9> !vino | soundray
[11:18] <sn9> !vnc | soundray
[11:18] <soundray> sn9: can't run a VNC server on it
[11:18] <sn9> !freenx | soundray
[11:19] <juris> how can I check disk for errors? I am using Xubuntu-desktop.
[11:20] <Vasily> hi, I just got about 50 updates (most are base gnome and kde packages) - any news on that?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !fschk | juris
[11:20] <Vasily> I'm on ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)
[11:20] <soundray> sn9: it's a headless machine, don't want to install any software on it.
[11:20] <trey> Okay, im in Xfce
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | juris
[11:21] <trey> working on customizing it
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> trey: wtg1
[11:21] <soundray> I tried 'echo test | sudo tee /dev/tty0', but that doesn't get it out of idle state
[11:21] <sn9> soundray: if it's headless, what do you care what its screen looks like?
[11:21] <juris> thanks :)
[11:21] <soundray> sn9: I don't
[11:21] <trey> thanks for the help!
[11:21] <soundray> sn9: when it appears idle, it will accept cluster jobs from a cycle-stealing framework, which slows down interactive performance
[11:22] <juris> wow, I have many errors :(
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> trey: help where you can
[11:22] <sn9> soundray: oh. you want to renice things, then
[11:22] <trey> ok
[11:23] <ManualOverDozer8> ActionParsnip : lots to look at there, thanks
[11:23] <soundray> sn9: no, I want it to appear in use (which it actually is). Renice won't help, because those pesky cluster jobs have a massive memory footprint and make the machine swap
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> ManualOverDozer8: np bro
[11:24] <sn9> soundray: what a masochistic machine...
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> soundray: try swiftfox
[11:24] <juris> juris@server1:~$ fsck /home
[11:24] <juris> fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
[11:24] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I'm not trying to browse the web...
[11:24] <juris> fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=72d095a1-8dee-40f1-ae9b-d277dafb9f65'
[11:25] <sn9> juris: you should never fsck something while it's mounted
[11:25] <juris> OK
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> sn9: i dont believe you actually can
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> sn9: can you?
[11:25] <sn9> ActionParsnip: i have
[11:25] <soundray> sn9: the whole network is setup like that. It's fine for desktops -- they unload their cluster jobs as soon as someone moves the mouse or hits a key.
[11:25] <rage> You can fsck while readonly
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> oh, then i have learned today
[11:25] <Photosynthesis> uu may have bad blocks on your disk... try smart-tools
[11:25] <Photosynthesis> you can run drive diagnostics
[11:26] <sn9> rage: yes, as long as you stay read-only, and don't try to reread
[11:26] <KrnlKlink> hey there...trying to boot xen kernel...but boot process hangs with a black screen...regular kernel boots fine...this is an x86_64 box running 8.04.1...anyone know how to get around this?
[11:26] <soundray> Photosynthesis: you mean smartmontools?
[11:27] <andouar> plop
[11:27] <Photosynthesis> KrnlK: check /var/log/kern,log syslog messages
[11:27] <Photosynthesis> sound: ya thats it
[11:27] <sn9> plop? that's a new greeting to me...
[11:28] <juris> how to check what hard disk is broken? I have IDE disk / and SATA disk /home I can not even open add/remove apps
[11:28] <sn9> juris: wherever your root is
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> juris: boot to livecd to ceck it is one answer
[11:28] <Photosynthesis> if the disk is in that state its trash
[11:29]  * ActionParsnip agrees with Photosynthesis.
[11:29] <Photosynthesis> yes there is always live boot
[11:29] <Photosynthesis> cd live
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> juris: if its that trashed, buy a new drive and restore data from backup
[11:29] <juris> OK
[11:29] <juris> no backups, I have new system, already Virtualmin installed... :(
[11:29] <juris> root@server1:/home/juris# apt-get install smartmontools
[11:29] <juris> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:29] <juris> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[11:29] <juris> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[11:29] <FloodBot2> juris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:30] <Photosynthesis> u have another process using dpkg like add/remove or synaptic
[11:30] <juris> I can not close add/remove. its frozen :P
[11:31] <Photosynthesis> u have to command line and kill -9 it
[11:31] <soundray> juris: reboot and fix this from a live CD
[11:31] <DistroJockey> juris, first I would shutdown and re-seat all cables going to your hard drives. Then go from there
[11:31] <juris> OK. bye.
[11:31] <magnetron> juris, add/remove applications is just not "any app"
[11:31] <Photosynthesis> ya get out and use the cd
[11:31] <juris> OK. thanks for answers. bye.
[11:31] <Photosynthesis> GL
[11:31] <Blaqlight> juris: use patebin/ubuntu.com
[11:31] <Blaqlight> err pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:32] <Photosynthesis> floodbot notified him already
[11:32] <Blaqlight> lol Photosynthesis no good luck is needed only a wing and a prayer as they say LP
[11:33] <Photosynthesis> well they didnt have LIVE CD's back in the day so he is totally spoiled
[11:33] <Blaqlight> Photosynthesis: Im a bit inebriated, and so my answers are a bit slower than the bot's
[11:33] <Photosynthesis> Acid?
[11:34] <Photosynthesis> weed?
[11:34] <magnetron> Photosynthesis, lol "back in the day". would love your presence in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <Blaqlight> inebriated == beer
[11:34] <orgthingy> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". << ah!!
[11:34] <magnetron> inbeeriated?
[11:34] <orgthingy> what im supposed to do now :S ?
[11:34] <KrnlKlink> Photo: I see "kernel BUG at include2/asm/mach-xen/asm/maddr_64.h:28!
[11:34] <Blaqlight> magnetron: something like that.
[11:34] <sn9> Blaqlight: it's ok, the bot's drunk, too
[11:35] <soundray> Blaqlight: if you can spell inebriated, then you're not ;)
[11:35] <JontyO> Hi
[11:35] <JontyO> Ive got a problem
[11:35] <JontyO> compizconfig-backend-gconf: Conflicts: libcompizconfig-backend-gconf but 0.6.0~git20071003+3v1ubuntu0 is to be installed
[11:35] <JontyO> E: Broken packages
[11:35] <JontyO> when i try to install compiz
[11:35] <eitch0000> hi, has anyone ever tried to use the huawei e172 usb modem?
[11:35] <Blaqlight> soundray: I leaned how to spell inebriated alot drunker than I am now :P
[11:35] <Photosynthesis> jonty: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:35] <JontyO> soundray: I got it working! Use wubi to install
[11:35] <sn9> eitch0000: is that gsm, or cdma?
[11:36] <soundray> JontyO: at least you've moved ahead from 12 hours ago
[11:36] <soundray> JontyO: ah
[11:36] <JontyO> ok photo
[11:36] <JontyO> :D
[11:36] <eitch0000> sn9: that's gsm
[11:36] <Blaqlight> !pastebin | JontyO
[11:36] <sn9> eitch0000: google for "gprsec ubuntu"
[11:36] <eitch0000> ok, thanks
[11:37] <JontyO> Photosynthesis, still same
[11:37] <JontyO> compizconfig-backend-gconf: Conflicts: libcompizconfig-backend-gconf but 0.6.0~git20071003+3v1ubuntu0 is to be installed
[11:37] <Photosynthesis> using hardy?
[11:37] <acemo> when increasing the block size of a filesystem will it make the files appear to be bigger? like when having 200 files of 2kb each and putting them in a fs with 4kb blocks or putting them in a fs with 8kb blocks, could it be that the files appear to be bigger on the 8kb blocks fs?
[11:38] <JontyO> Yea
[11:38] <soundray> JontyO: is your package list up to date? 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:38] <JontyO> one moment
[11:38] <wols> acemo: the files aren't bigger
[11:38] <cypherdelic> Can somebody reach my VNC cypherdelic.kicks-ass.org? does it prompt for password??
[11:38] <Blaqlight> sn9: the bot is always drunk, problem is alcohol doesn't affect many lines of code like it does many cells....
[11:38] <Photosynthesis> well isnt compiz installed default in hardy?
[11:38] <Blaqlight> wow my typing has actually improved.. a bit.
[11:38] <JontyO> Yes soundray it is
[11:38] <wols> but on average a file then wastes 4kB while with 4kB blocks it wastes ~2kB pre file
[11:39] <JontyO> it maybe because i tried a software update to new kernel but i cant install it cause it cant backup /boot something cause im on Fat32 :(
[11:39] <acemo> wols: thanks then this copying from one disk to a raid setup can't be because of diffrent block sizes :)
[11:39] <wols> JontyO: make a tar and copy away the tar
[11:39] <JontyO> huh ?
[11:39] <JontyO> confused :S
[11:39] <JontyO> Sorry im a noob
[11:39] <JontyO> :P
[11:39] <wols> obviously
[11:39] <Blaqlight> acemo: the file itself doesn't take up any more space, its just how the filesystem interprets the space available for a certian block of code/text/ whatever.
[11:39] <wols> I can tell, no need to say it
[11:40] <JontyO> :O
[11:40] <JontyO> Photosynthesis, I want compiz fusion
[11:40] <JontyO> its been removed anyway ;)
[11:40] <soundray> JontyO: I don't think wols actually meant you
[11:40] <omega7> hi
[11:40] <Photosynthesis> jonty: no ... unfortuently apt-get (package system) is very delicate... and so unless you know some tricks, you can break things... but dont give up... learn about how to trouble shoot apt and dpkg from google is my best advise
[11:40] <Blaqlight> !compiz-fusion | JontyO
[11:40] <JontyO> i removed it as the guide said
[11:40] <acemo> Blaqlight: so it could be that the files appear to be bigger while there not?
[11:40] <omega7> i have problem with my microphone
[11:40] <cypherdelic> Can somebody reach my VNC cypherdelic.kicks-ass.org? does it prompt for password??
[11:40] <omega7> can someone please help me to resolve this issue ?
[11:41] <Blaqlight> acemo: yes exactly
[11:41] <acemo> Blaqlight: great, thanks!
[11:41] <soundray> JontyO: does 'sudo apt-get -f install' produce any error messages?
[11:41] <Blaqlight> the lower the block size the less per bock the filesystem reads the block as full.
[11:41] <wols> acemo: on a 8k block device space is allocated in 8k increments
[11:41] <wols> so even a file of 1 byte needs 8k
[11:41] <Photosynthesis> I wonder, does canonical pay someone to be in this channel as extra support? :)
[11:41] <JontyO> soundray: No
[11:41] <omega7> ?
[11:41] <JontyO> just says no packages updated
[11:41] <JontyO> 1 packages not updated*
[11:42] <wols> a 8192 bytes file needs 8k on disk too. if it has 8193 bytes it needs another 8k chunk and so on
[11:42] <wols> JontyO: paste the FULL output of apt-get
[11:42] <wols> pastebin it
[11:42] <JontyO> ok
[11:42] <JontyO> !pastebin
[11:42] <acemo> wols: i understand that it uses the full block, but was wondering if a filesystem would say its the full block size or that it shows the actual file size =)
[11:42] <omega7> anyone can help me, i have problem with my microphone
[11:42] <Blaqlight> acemo: the filesystem always reads a block as full if something occupies it, whether or not its acually "full"
[11:42] <omega7> it doesnt work
[11:42] <jp> hello
[11:42] <wols> acemo: actual fielsize most times.depends on the tool reorting
[11:42] <soundray> !hi | jp
[11:43] <wols> *reporting
[11:43] <jp> il y a kelkun
[11:43] <wols> !fr| jp
[11:43] <Blaqlight> hence the disparity between 256MB of ram and the usual available ~250MB or so...
[11:43] <omega7> ?
[11:44] <wols> Blaqlight: are you talking about filesystems with that ram analogy?
[11:44] <theclaw> I encrypted my windows system partition with truecrypt, it works fine so far, now I want to mount it in linux; this doesn't work, it always says "incorrect password or no truecrypt partition" - what to do?
[11:44] <Photosynthesis> omega: you may have a bad driver or none at all that supports your mic... make sure you right click the VOLUME icon and that the mic volume is not muted or turned off
[11:44] <acemo> wols: alright, ill get this guy to find out what his block size on both disks are n hope thats why before copying his files are 574MB and after copying are 842MB
[11:44] <Blaqlight> acemo: if its 4kb blocks then well... you do the math.. it adds up.
[11:44] <JontyO> brb someone in compiz-fusion helping
[11:44] <Blaqlight> wols its the same pricinple.
[11:45] <wols> Blaqlight: bullshit
[11:45] <Photosynthesis> why mess with the file systems block size?
[11:45] <omega7> hi, i have problem with my microphone,
[11:45] <Blaqlight> you look at your 160GB HDD and it usually reports 145GB or so available space...
[11:46] <omega7> can someone please help me to resolve this issue ?
[11:46] <wols> mkfs does it automaticaly. it's a usable space vs. speed thing
[11:46] <wols> blocksizes increase access speed
[11:46] <Photosynthesis> omega: you may have a bad driver or none at all that supports your mic... make sure you right click the VOLUME icon and that the mic volume is not muted or turned off
[11:46] <Blaqlight> because at 8kb block sizes it adds up fast to what the disparity between actual and available is.
[11:46] <Photosynthesis> more space please :)
 i did, and it is not muted, how can i find out that i am using correct driver or not ?
[11:47] <wols> Blaqlight: more bullshit. my hdd is not RAM. and hdds have a 1024 != 1000 problem and a 5% reserved for root "problem" on ext2. nothing to do with blocksizes either
[11:47] <wols> Photosynthesis: man mkfs-ext3. you can tweak to
[11:47] <Photosynthesis> omega... research google by supplying your computer model and ubuntu and sound
[11:48] <omega7> ok, i am checking now
[11:48] <Photosynthesis> u have to know your hardware before u can begin
[11:48] <soundray> !u | Photosynthesis
[11:49] <Photosynthesis> wols: ya thats kool... but unnessasary... yet still fun to play with, the defaults are usualy optimal
[11:49] <Blaqlight> Photosynthesis: you have the space but if you get down to it, it is what it is.
[11:49] <Blaqlight> it sucks that you lose so much space to that little filesystem anomaly but its designed that way for a readon, cause less problems system/filesystem wide.
[11:49] <Penol> is it many Acer Aspire One users here?
[11:49] <Blaqlight> also sometimes bytes are lost to other things besides the actual file data...
[11:50] <wols> Photosynthesis: no. you have to know your filesystem usage to do that
[11:50] <Blaqlight> wols: fine believe whatever you want. its been this way for years.
[11:50] <wols> hardware is at least for that, irrelevant
[11:50] <Photosynthesis> cough... well I use reiserFS
[11:51] <wols> e.g are you storing ISOs or maildir mails? how fast is the acess you want, etc
[11:51] <max____> can someone tell me why despite giving permission for all users to run a script i get permission denied unless i use sudo?
[11:51] <JontyO> Guys im gettng this error when i do sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:51] <JontyO>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic_2.6.24-19.36_i386.deb
[11:51] <JontyO> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:51] <Photosynthesis> wols: perfect example... i  stand corrected
[11:51] <wols> omega7: lspci -n output
[11:52] <anirudh0> max____: script accesses protected regions?
[11:52] <wols> JontyO: there is more to it. FULL output. and NOT in channel
[11:52] <JontyO> !pastebin
[11:52] <max____> anirudh0: hmm
[11:52] <Grey_Loki> Hi. I'm having some difficulty in understanding my wireless problem. At the moment, I can connect to my router and use the internet using kernel version 2.6.20-16-generic, but when I switch (via GRUB) to using 2.6.24-19-generic, though I can connect to the network, I cannot get any internet access - does anyone have any ideas why?
[11:52] <omega7> wols: do u want the whole output ?
[11:52] <Grey_Loki> I'm using a fully-updated system, both wlassistant and wicd wireless managers, and an Asus WL-167G USB adapter, which seems to use the rt2500 chipset driver.
[11:52] <max____> anirudh0: here's the script
[11:52] <Blaqlight> wols: one question, explain this: if you write 5KB to a block in a filesystem (any filesystem) does it report to be full, 5KB full or empty?
[11:52] <max____> anirudh0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/32950/
[11:52] <kane77> what would you recommend virtualbox or vmware? (I want to try intrepid alpha + some other things)
[11:53] <max____> anirudh0: it doesn't look like it to me
[11:53] <anirudh0> lol
[11:53] <Blaqlight> wols: assuming its 8kb blocks
[11:53] <JontyO> http://paste.ubuntu.com/32953/
[11:53] <anirudh0> just make an alias :P
[11:53] <JontyO> thats my whole error
[11:53] <max____> anirudh0: how
[11:53] <wols> Blaqlight: report with what system call?
[11:53] <omega7> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/32954/
[11:53] <anirudh0> alias mupadflatex='<stuff>'...add to .bashrc
[11:54] <Photosynthesis> grey: reboot your router and make sure you set up correctly.. maybe at first try NO encryption and no pass... later if get it working secure it with a wpa2
[11:54] <wols> JontyO: read line 14
[11:54] <max____> anirudh0: where in bashrc
[11:54] <anirudh0> btw whats the ouput of ls -l <script>
[11:54] <anirudh0> end of it
[11:54] <JontyO> wols: what shall I do with it?
[11:54] <Blaqlight> wols the system call is irrelevant in general it reports this info to the OS as full, 5kb full, or empty?
[11:54] <max____> anirudh0: xs across the board
[11:55] <max____> anirudh0: edit ~/.bashrc?
[11:55] <max____> or /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:55] <wols> omega7: chances are 95% snd-hda-intel but: use lspci -n
[11:55] <anirudh0> max____: yeah..you have write prerms in the directory you ran it in>
[11:55] <wols> omega7: dunno which one of them is the soundcard exactly
[11:55] <anirudh0> max____: ~/.bashrc
[11:55] <wers> i cant make a bootable usb with ubuntu hardy. i can't make a good image
[11:55] <anirudh0> max____: only edit ~/.bashrc if you have many users
[11:55] <Blaqlight> wols: in truth it reports this particular block as "Full" which means you lose 3kb of space.. now multiply this over millions of times and you have... a huge loss of space.
[11:56] <max____> anirudh0: i don't under the 3rd to last statement about the directory perms
[11:56] <wols> Blaqlight: it's not. let's use stat then. it reports 5k and no more. as you can see for yourself by the glorious command called "ls"
[11:56] <JontyO> can someone help me with unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic' before installing new version: Operation not permitted please
[11:56] <anirudh0> max____: the script takes an input and gives an output..unless you have write access..the output cant be written
[11:56] <wols> Blaqlight: I put you on my ignore list. people who don't know the differnce of RAM and hdd are simply a waste of time. goodbye
[11:57] <Grey_Loki> Photosynthesis, i've tried the router reboots and no encryption/passphrase - i'm sure it's set up correctly though, because it works fine using the older kernel.
[11:57] <omega7> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/32955/
[11:57] <anirudh0> wols: dude...why do you get so angry?
[11:57] <omega7> wols: i have added some new information
[11:57] <max____> anirudh0: i don't see why i wouldn't have write acess
[11:57] <max____> access
[11:57] <max____> in my own directory
[11:58] <wols> omega7: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:58] <wols> which uses snd-hda-intel
[11:58] <anirudh0> max____: hmm..make the alias then..and see if it works..btw remove the 1 and 2..just use it as a shell command
[11:58] <JontyO> Can someone help me with
[11:58] <JontyO> unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[11:58] <wols> anirudh0: people who tell me what I told someone else long ago (in the same discussion) are a waste of time
[11:58] <omega7> wols: ok,
[11:58] <Photosynthesis> omega: pulseaudio has known issues.. try switching to alsa
[11:58] <omega7> wols: what do i need to do now ? as my Sound works perfectly but the microphone doesnt :(
[11:59] <max____> so if i want to not have to file pdflatex -flag file.file, i alias pdflatex -flag
[11:59] <Blaqlight> wols: fine thats what your seeing for argument sake, but still if taken as a whole the drive is still missing the usual ammount of space, due to the idea laid out above... my 160GB drive does not say that if its completely empty that it had 160GB available, only 145GB.
[11:59] <max____> ?
[11:59] <JontyO> wols: What can i do aboit that error
[11:59] <wols> omega7: if your ubuntu ones don't work, try a newer alsa. that particular drives is in heavy development for a few years now
[11:59] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: 160 GB is a marketing gimmick
[11:59] <wols> JontyO: check why it happens
[11:59] <max____> anirudh0: am i right?
[11:59] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: no drives ever have the full capacity..always in powers of 2
[11:59] <JontyO> wols: I have no idea
[11:59] <JontyO> thats why im asking :/
[11:59] <Blaqlight> lol whatever.
[12:00] <anirudh0> max____: yes
[12:00] <Grey_Loki> Blaqlight, HDD manufacturers class a gigabyte as 1,000 megabytes, not 1,024
[12:00] <Photosynthesis> same with RAM
[12:00] <wols> JontyO: since I don't see your system, it's permissions etc, how could I?
[12:00] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: conveniently taking 1000 instead of the real binary closest value, that is 1024
[12:00] <wols> Photosynthesis: but the reasons are totally different
[12:00] <Photosynthesis> you actually get more than what they market :) 1024
[12:01] <JontyO> wols: Shall i edit permissions?
[12:01] <omega7> AlsaMixer v1.0.15
[12:01] <Grey_Loki> Photosynthesis, no, you get less - they're telling you you're getting say 160x1,000, rather than 160x1,024
[12:01] <wols> JontyO: no you should look WHY it can't be overwritten first
[12:01] <anirudh0> you get more..see cat /proc/meminfo
[12:01] <omega7> alsactl version 1.0.15
[12:02] <Photosynthesis> Grey: which translates to MORE RAM that what is advertised
[12:02] <omega7> do i need to upgrade it ?
[12:02] <max____> anirudh0: how do i "source" the bashrc
[12:02] <anirudh0> max____: source ~/.bashrc ;)
[12:02] <max____> yea that doesn't work
[12:02] <anirudh0> thats a command
[12:03] <anirudh0> max____: open a new terminal then
[12:03] <Photosynthesis> source is used INSIDE another bash script to call a bash script
[12:03] <Grey_Loki> Photosynthesis, apologies - I thought we were still talking about HDD space, rather than RAM O_o
[12:03] <anirudh0> can also be used from term
[12:03] <max____> k
[12:03] <JontyO> wols,  I made permissions 777 but it still wont work
[12:03] <anirudh0> just asks bash to "execute" contents of whatever is in the sourced-file..kind of like #include
[12:03] <wols> of course. blindly going into actiona makes it WORSE
[12:04] <wols> if I were you I'd revert that "fix"
[12:04] <JontyO> wols, was that aimed at me?
[12:04] <wols> yes
[12:04] <JontyO> k what can i do then
[12:04] <JontyO> sorry im a noob when it comes to these things
[12:05] <wols> I just told you: revert what you did
[12:05] <max____> dir
[12:05] <JontyO> its reverted itself
[12:05] <JontyO> :S
[12:06] <Blaqlight> ok so there is no overhead in filesystems, and that what you know is the entire capacity of the drive and what the OS reports is all in my head.
[12:06] <JontyO> wols: What shall i do now
[12:06] <JontyO> does it matter i installed from wubi?
[12:06] <wols> check why you can't change perms as root
[12:06] <wols> that's suspicious
[12:06] <max____> whats this mean
[12:06] <max____> if [ "$TERM" != "dumb" ];
[12:06] <wols> probably it does
[12:06] <JontyO> it didnt say any errors
[12:06] <Vasily> http://www.exploratorium.edu/eclipse/2008/index.html
[12:06] <JontyO> just seemed to go bac
[12:06] <wols> max____: if you don#t have a dumb terminal
[12:06] <anirudh0> max____: checks value of environment variable TERM
[12:07] <anirudh0> emacs shell is dumb..xterm is not..so emacs shell exports TERM=dumb, xterm does TERM=xterm
[12:07] <Blaqlight> frankly wols is just mean anyway so it doesn't really bother me that he put me on ignore.
[12:07] <max____> the thing is
[12:07] <JontyO> wols, does it matter i used wubi to install it?
[12:07] <max____> in some some dirs i get colors and some i don't
[12:07] <max____> that if statement is on top of the colors aliases
[12:08] <linxUz3r> whats new with ubuntu and compiz?
[12:08] <linxUz3r> or compiz fusion
[12:08] <linxUz3r> !compiz | linxUz3r
[12:08] <anirudh0> max____: look through the logic in the bashrc..it should be understandable :)
[12:08] <max____> anirudh0: that's what im doing
[12:08] <sCOTTo> hey guys what are the best programs in linux beside gimp for graphics - to rival windows and mac :) ?
[12:09] <max____> anirudh0: i don't understand why one dir would make the terminal "dumb" and another not
[12:09] <anirudh0> max____: this does not relate to aliases in any way
[12:09] <Balian_> #ubuntu-pl
[12:09] <DistroJockey_> !lag
[12:09] <Blaqlight> sCOTTo: inkscape and others.
[12:09] <sCOTTo> others?
[12:09] <max____> anirudh0: if [ "$TERM" != "dumb" ]; then eval "`dircolors -b`" alias ls='ls --color=auto' #alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical' #alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
[12:09] <max____> fi
[12:09] <max____> anirudh0: in some dirs i get color
[12:09] <JontyO> !lag
[12:10] <max____> anirudh0: in some i don't
[12:10] <anirudh0> max____: does'nt make sense...dunno why that could happen
[12:10] <RaverWild> hello people. new to linux. have ubuntu with gnome. want to try xfce. is it safe to install xfce? what would happen to my programs already installed for gnome? could i be able to still run them same way as gnome could run kde apps? noone replies in xubuntu channel :(
[12:10] <DistroJockey_> heh
[12:10] <Blaqlight> RaverWild: nothing.
[12:10] <max____> anirudh0: yup even if i put the flag on ls by hand, ls --color=auto
[12:11] <max____> hmm actually nm i'm dumb
[12:11] <lstarnes> RaverWild: it should be safe to install
[12:11] <max____> none of this stuff should have color
[12:11] <JontyO> wols: what can I do
[12:11] <JontyO> its 38 1888 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1920472 2008-06-18 18:11 vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic as permissions
[12:11] <Blaqlight> RaverWild: go for it, however with all those extra programs installed you might have a bit of a mess for a system, consider just xubuntu
[12:11] <anirudh0> max____: you are dumb..or terminal is dumb?
[12:11] <max____> i am
[12:12] <JontyO> !lag
[12:12] <RaverWild> Blaqlight, i see. what about the fact that gnome could run kde apps? does xfce could run gnome/kde too?
[12:12] <anirudh0> max____: well..the first step of fixing something is realizing that it needs to be fixed ;)
[12:12] <anirudh0> RaverWild: yes
[12:12] <anirudh0> RaverWild: unless otherwise mentioned..everything runs everything
[12:12] <Blaqlight> RaverWild: yes they are included in the menus if thats what your asking, and yes they run the same way.. with some dependencies.
[12:13] <max____> omg i've been up for so long
[12:13] <RaverWild> anirudh0, thanks man. does thid applies to other desktop environments such as rox, xfast?
[12:14] <anirudh0> RaverWild: desktop environment are mostly for eye candy..apps need libraries..which are povided by the system..hence everything run everywhere
[12:14] <anirudh0> RaverWild: but they might not look the same
[12:14] <RaverWild> anirudh0, i see. thanks man.
[12:15] <JontyO> brb
[12:17] <wctaiwan> um, I installed ubuntu according to the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook on a first gen macbook... I did not install rEFIt or follow this step: "On the last screen, click on the "Advanced" button and select instead /dev/sda in the drop-down list for installing GRUB" (because i thought it was only applicable for using ubuntu's bootloader)
[12:17] <wctaiwan> now when I boot up and hold down option, boot camp only sees Macintosh HD
[12:19] <dj_baggio> !eclipse
[12:19] <Balian_> i have 156 update files but i can't download  bicuse ubuntu 6.12 don't have suport...
[12:19] <azhar27> !amarok | azhar27
[12:19] <Balian_> HELP
[12:19] <anirudh0> what is 6.12?
[12:19]  * Blaqlight chops up the towel into a thousand little pieces and throws it into the middle of #ubuntu.
[12:20] <japheth> hi there, can someone tell me please, how can I tell from the command line after doing a sudo apt-get update, whether or not a sudo apt-get upgrade is necessary?
[12:21] <anirudh0> japheth: you cant
[12:21] <anirudh0> japheth: but you can type apt-get upgrade..and then cancel
[12:21] <japheth> really?  but you can check whether or not a restart is required after a sudo apt-get upgrade...
[12:22] <Balian_> anirudh0 6.12 <----  DISTRIBUTION i need repo
[12:22] <sCOTTo> hey can someone tell me a good place to download fonts + also a good fonts manager ?
[12:23] <trigpin> hi , i want to play burnt dvds on a dvd player which does not play divx , is it possible , what programs i need ?
[12:24] <DistroJockey> japheth, not sure you can tell from command line if a reboot is needed, but you don't need to reboot until you are ready
[12:24] <anirudh0> reboots upgrade default kernel
[12:24] <japheth> DistroJockey: you can definitely tell if a reboot is needed from command line, which is why it surprises me that you can't tell if an upgrade is required.
[12:25] <anirudh0> japheth: how do you tell?
[12:25] <lappy198> Are there any alternatives to F-spot? I looked up googles Picasa, but since it just uses Wine Libs it feels like a bad choise..
[12:25] <DistroJockey> japheth, sudo apt-get upgrade   tells you if you need to upgrade
[12:26] <anirudh0> gwenview
[12:26] <lappy198> anirudh0> Was that pointed at me?
[12:26] <trigpin> hi , i want to play burnt dvds on a dvd player which does not play divx , is it possible , what programs i need ? (sorry to repost)
[12:26] <anirudh0> yes
[12:26] <japheth> anirudh0: a file is created at /var/run/reboot-required
[12:27] <japheth> DistroJockey: true, I guess I could just run apt-get upgrade -y and then it'll upgrade if necessary, and just do nothing if not...
[12:27] <lappy198> trigpin> Are you burning an .avi file to a cd or a .iso or .imb?
[12:27] <lappy198> img*
[12:27] <ArthurArchni1> hi
[12:27] <trigpin> lappy198,  im burning an avi
[12:27] <lappy198> anirudh0> Gwenview is for KDE apparently..
[12:28] <DistroJockey> japheth, well, depends on your situation I guess
[12:28] <legend2440> trigpin: devede     in synaptic is good
[12:28] <japheth> DistroJockey: my purpose is basically to write a small Python script to run at 3am everyday on a server, and install any updates and reboot if necessary.
[12:28] <anirudh0> lappy198: then look at gqview
[12:29] <ArthurArchni1> I installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my girlfriends laptop, but there a few things that don't work good. I know how to fix them on gnome, but I'm not sure how to fix them on KDE. I've used the ppa repo to upgrade to kde 4.1
[12:29] <DistroJockey> japheth, if it's a critical server, I'd do it manually (but maybe less often)
[12:29] <ArthurArchni1> The first is, everytime I log in, I need to enter the key for the kde wallet so that the wireless can connect.
[12:30] <trigpin> legend2440, when i use devede it rurns the .avi able to play on anything ?
[12:30] <lappy198> trigpin> Well.. Then you will have to convert it to a DVD.
[12:30] <ArthurArchni1> On gnome you install libpam-gnome-keyring or some such and that fixes it. How do I fix this on KDE?
[12:30] <lappy198> TrevorP1> And I'm not 100% sure on how to do it.. Do some googling on it.
[12:31] <legend2440> trigpin: http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[12:31] <anirudh0> ArthurArchni1: #kubuntu-kde4, or#kde, might be more useful
[12:31] <japheth> DistroJockey: It's not a critical server in this case.  It hosts code, and has incremental backups every 30mins during the day, but needs minimum maintenance.
[12:32] <trigpin> thanxs, lappy198 ,legend2440, will try devede
[12:33] <ArthurArchni1> anirudh0: I think that was uninstalled automatically since it conflicts with kde 4.1 from the ppa archives
[12:33] <zaapiel> zing!
[12:33] <DistroJockey> japheth, It may suit your situation but I don't always like applying all updates (especially quickly after release) without some reviewing
[12:34] <japheth> DistroJockey: that's a fair point, and normally I would agree.  in this case though, I am leaving a business and I set their server up.  noone else knows how to maintain it at this point, and keeping it up to date is fairly important...
[12:35] <xorand> Can anyone help me with installing iReport 3.0.0 on Ubuntu 8?  The installer doesn't seem to work and there doesn't seem to be iReport in Ubuntu's repo
[12:35] <DistroJockey> japheth, ahh, fair enough
[12:36] <japheth> DistroJockey: thanks for your assistance too, I think that's sorted me out  :)
[12:36] <ArthurArchni1> Hmm...  I've created a new wallet and asked it not to prompt me for passwords. We'll see if that works.
[12:36] <DistroJockey> japheth, no problem. All the best :)
[12:37] <Zen_> hi every body
[12:37] <anirudh0> DistroJockey: well..updates do get reviewed...thats how they get there..in part
[12:37] <DistroJockey> anirudh0, yes, depending on your repo sources ofcourse
[12:38] <eshat> Hi all, is there a way, that a file cannot be opened twice ? We are a root group and I want to prevend 2 persons editing the same config, because one will lose his changes if the other overwrites the file ?
[12:39] <anirudh0> eshat: put it under svn :P
[12:41] <tom4ever> hi , i want to add ram to my desktop does linux accept all ram or can it not be compatible ?
[12:41] <anirudh0> it accepts
[12:41] <tom4ever> ok
[12:41] <tom4ever> thanxs
[12:41] <eshat> anirudh0: I am talking about server configs, etc. So the file has to be on that server and not in a svn directory
[12:42] <eshat> or at least be uploaded after it is comitted
[12:42] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, if you BIOS sees it, all is good :)
[12:42] <trym_work> when you "connect to a server" using ssh - you obviously have the same permissions as the user you are connecting as. Is there a way to sudo on the remote side, so that you have full access to the remote filesystem?
[12:43] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, unless you are going over 3GB of RAM that is :)
[12:43] <tom4ever> DistroJockey, alright not bought the ram yet , hope the bios sees it
[12:43] <Pici> tom4ever: See ##hardware for figuring out what types of ram that your computer can accept.
[12:43] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, yeah, good idea to check what you MB/system can support first
[12:43] <tom4ever> DistroJockey,  was goint to add 4  gb ram =()
[12:44] <umangme_> eshat: Can't you make each user do a chown (self) and then a change permitions so that others can't change the file.
[12:44] <cwillu> !pinning
[12:44] <tom4ever> Pici,  ok will have a look in #hardware
[12:44] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, to see the full 4GB you will need a 64bit OS or run a 32bit OS with PAE support (latter is slower)
[12:45] <HappyHater> DistroJockey, what about the bigmem kernels? isn't that what their for?
[12:45] <DistroJockey> HappyHater, yep, that would be PAE
[12:46] <tom4ever> DistroJockey,  i have 32 bit systel i guess its imposible to upgrade ?
[12:46] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, how much RAM do you have now? How many RAM slots?
[12:47] <Pici> Ahem, ##hardware ;)
[12:47] <DistroJockey> Pici, sorry
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> werd up y'alls
[12:48] <tom4ever> DistroJockey,  no idea havn't opened to see , but i have 1 gb at the moment
[12:48] <DjViper> ActionParsnip: pardon? :P
[12:49] <tom4ever> DistroJockey,  is there a way to check how many slots i have ?
[12:49] <moreau> anyone know what setting an IRC chat as 'persistent' does.  in Pidgin, with the chat rooms i have added to the ud list
[12:49] <ArthurArchni1> hi.. ok that didn't work. Network manager keeps telling me that knetworkmanager needs kwallet to open... but in kwallet I only have one wallet that is set not to ask for passwords.
[12:50] <ArthurArchni1> So there must be some old wallet or setting in there from before my upgrade that is confusing it
[12:50] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, may aswell get what the board supports (if you can afford it)
[12:50] <R42> hi
[12:50] <moreau> r4 stop, ppl will bitch at you for spammin channel with /nick <nick> commands
[12:50] <moreau> and, hello :)
[12:51] <R42> i installed ubuntu today and have some problems ._.
[12:51] <R42> nicks were registered ,\
[12:51] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, google your MB/System name or BIOS codes for specifications
[12:51] <moreau> R3 > R4 IMO
[12:51] <sergevn> situation
[12:51] <tom4ever> DistroJockey,  ok thanxs will do , thanxs fo your help =)
[12:52] <DistroJockey> tom4ever, you're welcome
[12:52] <moreau> whats your prob with ubuntu R42
[12:52] <sergevn> hosting platform with virtual sites, each documentroot dir has it's own non-existing owner/group id
[12:52] <tom4ever> Pici,  thanxs for you help too
[12:52] <R42> apt-get and symantic isn't working, i get rufi@ubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install konsole
[12:52] <R42> [sudo] password for rufi:
[12:52] <R42> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:52] <^hellfire^> spadam do jutra
[12:52] <sergevn> is it possible to run cronjobs as the non-existing user
[12:52] <Pici> R42: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> R42: then run that
[12:53] <R42> i did it of course
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> R42: and what did yuo get?
[12:53] <R42> but no result
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> R42: why do you want konsole when you have terminal?
[12:53] <R42> i can paste, but i have russian locale
[12:53] <R42> -)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !ru
[12:54] <Beby_face> #surabaya
[12:54] <R42> it's not a question of konsole or terminal
[12:54] <R42> apps don'g install or uninstall
[12:54] <theclaw> !DE
[12:54] <moreau> ffs shut up he can speak english
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> R42: try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:54] <R42> ubottu: k', thx
[12:55] <moreau> lol
[12:55] <R42> wth
[12:55] <moreau> hes a bot
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> he saves finers in here
[12:55] <R42> i see
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> fingers
[12:55] <moreau> you can type stuff like !xorg  !wubi, etc
[12:55] <DistroJockey> !botsnack
[12:55] <moreau> !yourmom
[12:55] <[gquit]bombadil> every time i watch a youtube video firefox crashes
[12:55] <unop> sergevn, you could run a cronjob as the user "noboby"
[12:55] <Circus-Killer> lol
[12:56] <moreau> bombdil how did you install the flash thingy
[12:56] <moreau> flash....driver...whatever its called
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> [gquit]bombadil: firefox3-64bit with flash per chance?
[12:56] <[gquit]bombadil> ActionParsnip: nope
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> ndispluginwrapper
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> [gquit]bombadil: 32bit? 64 bit? What version of firefox
[12:57] <sluimers> hello? I've got a slowness problem, ubuntu is slowing my computer down to ultra slow now
[12:57] <[gquit]bombadil> moreau: i followed the fixing pulse audio webpage from the ubuntu forums
[12:57] <sluimers> everything is moving slow
[12:57] <tom4ever> [gquit]bombadil,  i had same problem i up upgraded firefox and installed adobe flash
[12:57] <sluimers> except for my mouse pointer
[12:57] <iopk> I have a simple textfile that is OK on one machine, but contains "strange" characters on another machine. It's copied from the first to the second by first gzipping, scp'ing and unzipping it. file --mime <<filenam>> says "text/x-c; charset=us-ascii" on both machines. how can I make sure it looks OK on the 2nd machine too?
[12:57] <[gquit]bombadil> ActionParsnip: 32bit, FF3, i'll need to start FF again to get the exact version
[12:57] <moreau> i dont think you guys should even be running FF3
[12:57] <tom4ever> [gquit]bombadil,  and it worked
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: so apps take a while to load, login is slow
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> [gquit]bombadil: id uninstall then reinstall the flash plugin
[12:58] <umangme> sluimers: Have you installed anything lately?
[12:58] <Pici> iopk: md5sum both of the files and compare the resulting hashes
[12:58] <moreau> FF3 to web browers is like Vista to OS's
[12:58] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, it's beyond normal, even typing here on xchat lags
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> [gquit]bombadil: uninstall it then go to a flash site like www.rathergood.com it will be offered to you
[12:58] <sluimers> umangme, java
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: what spec pc do you have?
[12:58] <[gquit]bombadil> ActionParsnip: okay i'll try that
[12:58] <anirudh0> iopk: run a diff
[12:59] <unop> iopk, are all the contents of the file strange characters or just a few?
[12:59] <sluimers> it's a 1.5 Ghz centrino laptop
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: ram?
[12:59] <anirudh0> iopk: see unop
[12:59] <sluimers> with 4 Gb of RAM
[12:59] <anirudh0> iopk: might be a locale issue too
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: wow nice, graphics?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: do you have any compiz rubbish running?
[13:00] <sluimers> graphics? I don't know, just a regular one
[13:00] <sluimers> intel one
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: have you installed the graphics driver?
[13:00] <sluimers> yes, I can't get rid of the compiz thing
[13:00] <anirudh0> sluimers: run "top" from term...see whats eating your cpu
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: have you ran sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:00] <umangme> sluimers: Are you sure your swap is swapedon? type free in terminal and see what it says with swap
[13:00] <DistroJockey> sluimers, first thing I would try is disabling (setting to None) the Visual Effects in  System - Preferences - Appearance
[13:00] <sluimers> Xorg is
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> i bet its compiz being fantastic as usual
[13:01] <anirudh0> sluimers: sudo killall compiz
[13:01] <sluimers> distroJockey, it is already and yet compiz is running
[13:01] <unop> anirudh0, sudo ?
[13:01] <crdlb> anirudh0: using sudo make no sense
[13:01] <anirudh0> unop: yes
[13:02] <unop> anirudh0, that's a silly use of sudo
[13:02] <sluimers> anirudh0, no use it's still slow
[13:02] <anirudh0> i'm not sure compiz is a user process
[13:02] <tmapj> hey could anyone help me, my system tray is missing
[13:02] <umangme> sluimers: Is you swap activated?
[13:02] <crdlb> anirudh0: it's a window manager ...
[13:02] <anirudh0> crdlb: yes
[13:03] <unop> anirudh0, and window managers are invoked by the user not root
[13:03] <crdlb> window managers are just clients of the X server, so they run as user
[13:03] <sluimers> umangme, ah errr.... maybe not, I never really understood swap
[13:03] <tmapj> hey could anyone help me, my system tray is missing
[13:03] <sluimers> Mem:       2066520    1425220     641300          0      63624     832692
[13:03] <umangme> sluimers: type in free in the terminal
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> tmapj: right click the taskbar -> add item (?)
[13:03] <umangme> And post the line that says swap
[13:03] <sluimers> -/+ buffers/cache:     528904    1537616
[13:03] <anirudh0> sluimers: if swap is on..it will show in df -h ouput
[13:04] <Pici> tmapj: on the bottom?
[13:04] <anhdh> how can i make the 3d desktop into the circle by compiz???
[13:04] <sluimers> Swap:      1646620          0    1646620
[13:04] <tmapj> no pici on the top right corner
[13:04] <anirudh0> sluimers: did you run top..see if compiz is really the culprit
[13:05] <umangme> sluimers: How much RAM do you have?
[13:05] <Pici> tmapj: Right click on the panel. go to add to panel and the applet you need to add is titled Notification bar, I think, or something similar.
[13:05] <HappyHater> anhdh, upgrade to version 0.7.6 of compiz-fusion
[13:05]  * ActionParsnip bets its compiz
[13:05] <tom4ever> anhdh,  do you mean into a cube or like a round ball ?
[13:05] <anhdh> HappyHater,  yes
[13:05] <sluimers> umangme, 4 Gb
[13:05] <anhdh> HappyHater,  round
[13:05] <tmapj> thanks pici
[13:06] <Pici> tmapj: surely
[13:06] <umangme> Oh ok that's why you've got your swap fully free. Then swap can't be the issue
[13:06] <sluimers> umangme, my last laptop had too little so I got as much as possible when I bought it
[13:06] <anhdh> HappyHater,  cube is easy but i can't make it round ball
[13:06] <tom4ever> anhdh , didn't know it could do that thanxs
[13:06] <anirudh0> sluimers: you have a 64 bit system>
[13:06] <anirudh0> *?
[13:06] <HappyHater> anhdh, , like I said, upgrade your version
[13:06] <anhdh> HappyHater,  ok
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: does it happen if you reduce ram?
[13:07] <Pici> anhdh: Thats not offered in the version of Compiz in Hardy, join #compiz-fusion for help installing a new version.
[13:07] <iopk> unop: just a few characters - the famous ones are strange
[13:07] <sluimers> I see in top: Xorg, opera and compiz.real as my CPU eaters, with Xorg being the main culprit
[13:07] <sluimers> anirudh0, no
[13:07] <unop> iopk, what are the "famous ones" ?
[13:08] <iopk> unop: é and è etc are wrong