[04:02] <rlandis> even lighter than xfce
[04:02] <rbil> I guess not ... bye guys :-(
[04:03] <iLLf8d> rlandis, good choice but how pretty were the xfce windows? did they have rounded edges in their themes and whatnot?
[04:03] <jrib> !info libglib2.0-0
[04:03] <lampshade> I was annoyed that I had to run update-menus though and that the installer didn't do that on its own for me yar
[04:03] <asmandeus> that makes sense
[04:03] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[04:03] <Geoffrey2> feross, that's the only ext2 partition I have....then there's the NTFS partition, but I don't think I want Ubuntu trying to fix anything in there
[04:03] <asmandeus> thanks a ton for input, people
[04:03] <feross> Geoffrey2: true, just try reboot.
[04:03] <RedRose> how do I remove that message that starts with Bash about sudo>?
[04:03] <jrib> [Nige] : do you specifically need 2.4?  2.10.3 seems to be in the dapper repositories
[04:03] <[Nige] > well 2.10 would be okay I guess
[04:04] <rlandis> uh didn't notice the pretty but I'll look still have it on
[04:04] <[Nige] > i couldnt find it when i had a look... I am using dapper
[04:04] <jrib> RedRose: it only starts the first time, but I believe it is something in ~/.bashrc that comes form /etc/skel/.bashrc
[04:04] <myesterious> apt-get build-dep xfce4 isn't work
[04:04] <jrib> RedRose: s/start/displays
[04:04] <[Nige] > jrib, do I need any non standard repos
[04:05] <Geoffrey2> feross, rebooted, same problem
[04:05] <ravenous> how do i set two different resolutions for an lcd laptop screen and an external normal monitor attached to it as well?
[04:05] <acersales> hi is there any anti virus for ubuntu ?
[04:05] <jrib> [Nige] : nope, it is in the main repository
[04:05] <RedRose> jrattner1, any clue what Line, i've looked through ~/.bashrc and didn't find naything
[04:05] <RedRose> also, how do I get more desktops?
[04:05] <rlandis> if you loaded xfce and then did an upgrade wouldn't that do it for you mysterious
[04:05] <Geoffrey2> feross, it starts with Mounting /dev/sda5 on /root failed: No such device
[04:05] <[Nige] > hmmm okay
[04:05] <[Nige] > i iwll loook
[04:06] <acersales> any anti virus ?
[04:06] <brian98> acersales, for what?
[04:06] <jrib> RedRose: right click on the workspace panel applet and go to preferences.  Let me check my sudo comment, I could be wrong about the location
[04:07] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, you could try reinstall grub but if that doesn't work your sda5 is prolly borked. Need to reinstall and use EXT3 instead of 2...
[04:07] <lampshade> ravenous: you just need the right settings in your xorg.conf.  Those settings depend on your card.  Depending on what video card you have you might not even have to edit it by hand.  For example, with my ati powered laptop, I used the ati config program
[04:07] <acersales> brian98, for linux I am using ubuntu but i doubt my internet server has got some problem
[04:07] <brian98> acersales, http://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-31,GGGL:en&q=antivirus+for+linux
[04:07] <rlandis> mysterious what ubuntu you running
[04:07] <lampshade> ravenous: otherwise, you simply basically need to Screen sections.  One for your default monitor and one for the other
[04:07] <brian98> acersales, sorry for stating the obvious
[04:07] <Geoffrey2> feross, which means every file in there is now gone?
[04:07] <brian98> acersales, I doubt you have a virus
[04:07] <myesterious> 6.06 ltd
[04:07] <RedRose> jrib, ok, thanks... i know what .bashrc is and all, but i've skimmed it any found nothing to do with sudo, I'm using edgy, but i though i'd come here cause htey are all quety over their
[04:08] <ravenous> lampshade: any clue where there might be a howto? i have a dell laptop with intel graphics
[04:08] <viator> try checking for ROOTKITS!
[04:08] <acersales> brian98, my connection get flooded :(
[04:08] <feross> Geoffrey2: oh, well you might still be able to mount the drive and retrieve files from it.
[04:08] <viator> ;)
[04:08] <acersales> brian98, and it  disconnect
[04:08] <brian98> acersales, if it's a webserver you need a firewall
[04:08] <brian98> imho
[04:08] <rlandis> won't apt get install xfce work
[04:08] <brian98> *duck*
[04:08] <acersales> acersales, my clients are windows
[04:08] <jrib> RedRose: yeah, I'm on edgy too and can't find it.  But I am pretty sure it used to be in there.  What is happening?  Is the message appearing everytime you start a terminal?
[04:08] <Geoffrey2> feross, any idea what would happen so it was fine last night and is totally gone now?
[04:08] <RedRose> yes
[04:08] <RedRose> and i'm using root
[04:09] <acersales> brian98, , my clients are windows
[04:09] <viator> install chkrootkit
[04:09] <jrib> RedRose: and you checked /root/.bash* ?
[04:09] <myesterious> Ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[04:09] <brian98> well then nav corporate is about the best
[04:09] <lampshade> ravenous: that's a bummer, I have a dell with ati, I could have told you exactly how to do it in that case.  Ummm as for intel... I'm not familiar at all though I don't think it will be that different.  What dell is it?  And are you doing svideo out or ?
[04:10] <RedRose> yes, and nothing
[04:10] <brian98> acersales, avg is free though
[04:10] <brian98> and not too bad
[04:10] <rlandis> mysterious have you tried apt-get install xfce
[04:10] <lampshade> ravenous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161830&highlight=intel+dell+external+display might be your best help.
[04:10] <ravenous> lampshade: ill take a look
[04:10] <J-_> !xfce
[04:10] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <acersales> brian98, then what it will do scan all the data ?
[04:10] <Geoffrey2> I have to say, for all I've heard about how wonderfully stable Linux is, this isn't doing much to convince me
[04:10] <viator> clamav
[04:11] <feross> Geoffrey2: I had an email server crash/currupt a reiserfs ... but that's thousands of little files writing and reading at the same time. Also one time installing windows and linux on the same hard drive screwed something up where one of the partitions became unreadable and had to wipe the whole thing.
[04:11] <myesterious> rlandis, that will be intalled beta1 but i want the latest xfce4 is 4.4RC1
[04:11] <brian98> acersales, on the windows machines yes!
[04:11] <brian98> what version of w are you running?
[04:11] <brian98> acersales, I think your looking in the wrong place though
[04:12] <acersales> brian98, i am looking for antivirus that can scan any request send from my client pc to my ubuntu server
[04:12] <feross> rlandis: talking about desktop gui's, have any of you tried fvmw-crystal. It's sweeeeeettt!!
[04:13] <rlandis> no haven't
[04:13] <brian98> acersales, then look at zonealarm or even windows firewall
[04:13] <jrib> RedRose: well worst case scenario, take a long phrase, that sounds pretty unique and grep / for it overnight :)
[04:13] <jrib> RedRose: phrase fromt the message I mean
[04:13] <rlandis> right now I'm liking fluxbox
[04:13] <brian98> or acersales go to your ubuntuserver and type netstat
[04:13] <feross> s/ fvmw fvwm
[04:13] <acersales> brian98, or do you know any graphical tool that can show me the request send by other machines
[04:13] <rlandis> neat and clean
[04:13] <rlandis> no frills
[04:13] <brian98> and see if there are dozens of connections from the same ip
[04:13] <viator> the windows clinets CANNOT infect your linux box witha virus
[04:13] <viator> they can install a rootkit
[04:13] <brian98> acersales, what viator says
[04:13] <acersales> brian98, so i can see which machine is flooding the network
[04:14] <brian98> yes
[04:14] <viator> if they know what they are doing
[04:14] <jrib> RedRose: ah, I found it.  It's in /etc/bash.bashrc
[04:14] <viator> if you think you may have been rooted
[04:14] <viator> like i said earlies install chkrootkit
[04:14] <viator> its in the repos
[04:14] <jrib> RedRose: so it shouldn't run if you have .sudo_as_admin_successful in your $HOME it seems
[04:14] <brian98> acersales, are you familiar with etherreal ?
[04:15] <acersales> nope brian98 but i have heard about it
[04:15] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, does the Live CD have a CD burner I could use to back up my data before I blow away the ext2 partition?
[04:15] <Salihu> feross: Is fvwn-crystal lighter on processors than fluxbox?
[04:15] <acersales> viator, chkrootkit does what ?
[04:15] <kitche> well if you think you got rooted there is two tools I would use rhunter and chkrootkit
[04:15] <viator> exactly what it sounds like it does
[04:15] <viator> checks for rootkits
[04:15] <viator> heh
[04:15] <brian98> acersales, you can install the windows versions or the linux versions and it will show you every packet sent and received on an interface
[04:16] <brian98> great piece of sw
[04:16] <feross> Geoffrey2: I think so.
[04:16] <Geoffrey2> note to self, start doing regular data backups
[04:16] <rlandis> anyone out there set up mutt mail
[04:16] <viator> if your kids are the ones using thr windows boxes maybe you should lock them down if your worried about misuse by them
[04:16] <kitche> rlandis: I have but I never set it up to send mail
[04:16] <viator> maybe use the group policy editor
[04:16] <J-_> buy an external hard drive and use that as a back up =D much easier
[04:16] <brian98> acersales, whats your best price on the ferrari ? lol
[04:16] <THX-1138> interestind in packet filtering or shaping? conntrack
[04:16] <feross> Salihu: don't know, it's very light tho. 1/3 the time to start than Gnome on my lappy.
[04:17] <rlandis> kitche do you just recieve on it
[04:17] <tkup> I'm currently on breezy and I've added the line 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse', updated but I still can't find qt4 (qmake v4). any idea what I'm missing?
[04:17] <Salihu> feross: Is fvwn-crystal lighter than icewm?
[04:17] <sethk> rlandis, I've set it up.  first question, though, are you sure that's what you need to do?
[04:17] <viator> fvwm is lighter yes
[04:17] <kitche> rlandis: yeah I never installed the smtp side for it
[04:17] <sethk> Salihu, I'd guess that fvwn is lighter
[04:17] <viator> with much more powerful scripting abilities
[04:17] <acersales> viator, i am worried that those who connect to my network contain viruses and worms as they are external and they cause all this problem of flooding
[04:18] <rlandis> I have n't set either side up just installed it tonite
[04:18] <kitche> Salihu: fvwm is lighter then icewm have to configure it more also
[04:18] <viator> what kind of server is it
[04:18] <brian98> acersales, I think you may be a bit paranoid
[04:18] <feross> Salihu: put it this way, fvwm is the grandpappy of a lot of other GUI's, it's all in C. Very light but with the crystal additions it's probably a little heavier than just regular fvwm.
[04:18] <viator> i mean are you a proxy
[04:18] <viator> lol
[04:18] <acersales> viator, just for sharing internet
[04:18] <brian98> acersales, and as I said a firewall!!!
[04:18] <viator> sharing your internet connection
[04:18] <viator> wirless
[04:18] <viator> ?
[04:19] <Salihu> It sounds like something I should try on a 1 Ghz computer that i am setting.  I was going to try Xubuntu, but I am having problems.
[04:19] <acersales> viator, nope
[04:19] <brian98> !firestarter > acersales
[04:19] <viator> ok how are you sharing the connection
[04:19] <Salihu> I have had problems installing Xubuntu on three different computers now.
[04:19] <viator> with EXTERNAL
[04:19] <viator> people
[04:19] <acersales> brian98, i am simply using iptables
[04:19] <rlandis> it is easier to read the computer when it is like a black background of a terminal
[04:19] <acersales> viator, iptables
[04:20] <viator> ugh
[04:20] <kitche> Salihu: what problems exactly? sicne I ran into a few myself but I fixed them
[04:20] <viator> no
[04:20] <viator> are people dialing into you
[04:20] <brian98> acersales, thats a nice gui for iptables
[04:20] <acersales> viator, nope
[04:20] <Geoffrey2> feross, how do I go about mounting the drive in Ubuntu?
[04:20] <brian98> acersales, whats your best price on the ferrari ? lol
[04:20] <viator> then how are you sharing the internet with EXTERNAL people
[04:20] <viator> you are confusing me
[04:21] <viator> i think you are saying you have a LAN
[04:21] <acersales> viator, i am sharing it locally
[04:21] <Salihu> kitche: The current problem is that Xubuntu is saying that there is an I/O error on hdc... That is not the exact message, but it is like that...
[04:21] <viator> within a building or home
[04:21] <acersales> viator, yes
[04:21] <feross> Geoffrey2: 'mkdir /sda5' then 'mount /dev/sda5 /sda5'
[04:21] <acersales> viator, yes
[04:21] <cmpalmer> I was thinking of packaging http://handbrake.m0k.org/. Other than reading http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/intro-chap.html is there somebody I should talk to or something I should do?
[04:21] <viator> oh
[04:21] <Salihu> I have checked the drive with Spinrite, and it checks out fine.
[04:22] <viator> what do you mean by flooding
[04:22] <JShadow> cmpalmer: that looks like a pretty slick app
[04:23] <Geoffrey2> feross, hmmm, Permission denied...can I sudo on Live CD?
[04:23] <crimsun> cmpalmer: -motu
[04:23] <viator> you mean they are sucking up the bandwidth
[04:23] <feross> yeah
[04:23] <Salihu> kitche: This evening, I was going to find an install tutorial for Xubuntu, but perhaps I will try using fvwm-crystal...
[04:23] <crimsun> cmpalmer: preemptive apology for the slightly disorganised wiki.
[04:23] <acersales> viator, yes and when a lot of data comes it get disconnected from the isp
[04:23] <viator> that makes no sense
[04:23] <viator> how many clients
[04:24] <rlandis>  lets try this
[04:24] <feross> Salihu: http://polishlinux.org/apps/fvwm-crystal-speed-and-transparency/
[04:24] <Salihu> feross: Thanks!
[04:24] <compwiz> hello everybody
[04:25] <rlandis> hi compwiz
[04:25] <compwiz> who likes xgl/compiz
[04:25] <zubeen> help me install frostwire
[04:26] <Salihu> feross: Very nice article...
[04:26] <viator> ubuntu is basically meant to be a desktop os you should use somthing like smoothwall or ipcop on an old machine if you want it to be a firewall  gateway
[04:26] <Geoffrey2> feross, I am presuming any folder with an 'x' in a red square next to it is borked?
[04:26] <kamui> viator: i don't buy that for a second
[04:26] <viator> you can make ubuntu what you want
[04:26] <kamui> I run ubuntu on my primary desktop dual p4s
[04:27] <compwiz> i just installed ubuntu
[04:27] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, not a good indicator :(
[04:27] <viator> just like most distros
[04:27] <zubeen> viator:help me install frostwire
[04:27] <compwiz> the most eazy linux install i ever did
[04:27] <Geoffrey2> feross, could I be looking at a pending HD failure?
[04:28] <viator> but somtimes its just easier to pick a distro meant for certain purposes
[04:28] <compwiz> automatix can install frostwire
[04:28] <feross> Geoffrey2: could be, it's always a possibility
[04:28] <zubeen> compwiz, i have already installed frostwire
[04:28] <THX-1138> !automatix
[04:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:28] <zubeen> compwiz, need help config it
[04:28] <kamui> I'd say Ubuntu is a linux distro that takes the emphasis off of "technical" and puts it back where I think it belongs, on the experience.  It certainly is more accessible for newbs, and coming from Slackware, It relieves the stress of building dependencies, making it very easy to get software
[04:28] <compwiz> i dont know how
[04:29] <Geoffrey2> whew, forunately the documents folder is intact
[04:29] <THX-1138> << Never trusted the automatix repositories.
[04:29] <zubeen> compwiz, what abt jre
[04:29] <viator> i know frostwire is a p2p app
[04:29] <viator> its not in the repos
[04:29] <compwiz> im a linux noob who knows some stuff
[04:29] <viator> but im sure its easy to install
[04:29] <zubeen> viator, yeah thts correct...its there in the rep
[04:30] <shriphani> i havent got the right distro for ah purpose
[04:30] <shriphani> mah ^
[04:30] <viator> its not in the repos i checked
[04:30] <viator> but
[04:30] <compwiz> i need help installing compiz
[04:30] <viator> you can get it from their sitre
[04:30] <viator> i just checked
[04:30] <viator> there is a .deb
[04:30] <compwiz> i already got XGL
[04:31] <viator> of the latest version
[04:31] <zubeen> viator, i already installed it
[04:31] <zubeen> viator, need help installing it
[04:31] <compwiz> do you have a url?
[04:31] <birdfish> What is the codename for version 6.06?
[04:31] <shriphani> i need a live cd which gives me just a command line
[04:31] <feross> compwiz: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235/co/co
[04:31] <viator> whats the problem?
[04:32] <zubeen> birdfish, dapper drake
[04:32] <Lee_> Hi, can someone tell me how to mount a windows drive onto a ubuntu live cd?
[04:32] <birdfish> Thanks =)
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Lee_,  the mount command with the proper options. :P
[04:33] <shriphani> Lee_, yer win drive is /dev/hda1 ?
[04:33] <feross> Lee_: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[04:34] <shriphani> does anyone know of a live cd which gives me just a command line ?
[04:34] <rlandis> nite folks
[04:34] <Dr_willis> shriphani,  oodles of them out there.. tomsbrt is a rescue cd. thats very nice
[04:34] <feross> shriphani: slax
[04:35] <Dr_willis> shriphani,  or most all of them have boot options to just go to the command line
[04:35] <compwiz> im bord
[04:35] <efrancolaporte> hi
[04:35] <efrancolaporte> I'm a newbie and I need help but check it out guys my question is very easy & short
[04:35] <feross> shriphani: dsl is good too, just need to tell it not to load x
[04:35] <viator> yeah the freedos livecd
[04:35] <shriphani> feross, i got a dead hard drive i wanna copy files from so a distro without x would be a good choice
[04:35] <viator> lol
[04:35] <efrancolaporte> Im using Gnome and have Konqueror installed, how do i make it my default file manager
[04:36] <Lee_> feross, thanks
[04:36] <compwiz> dsl is awesome
[04:36] <compwiz> until i lost my usb stick
[04:36] <efrancolaporte> in the System preferences i only find default application for web browsing (firefox) and email
[04:36] <efrancolaporte> does anyone knows :-)
[04:36] <viator> hah
[04:36] <birdfish> Would it be alright to add a hoary hedgehog repository to the dapper drake list and install a program?
[04:36] <ardchoille> Anyone know what the yellow arrow is in the editor in anjuta? It won't go away and it's annoying
[04:36] <birdfish> I'm trying to get vuurmuur installed =]
[04:36] <shriphani> it sure is but i need something low on rrrsources as copying a few gigs might be tough on a 'bloated' lived
[04:36] <viator> efrancolaporte goodluck on that one
[04:36] <shriphani> live cd ^
[04:37] <viator> heheh
[04:37] <kjm> stupid question.  Fresh install - on reboot I get stuck on a prompt that asks for a runlevel.......when I enter value (tried 6,5,4,3) simply get an error that states : "#Init: no mor e processes at this run level" and everything stops.
[04:37] <efrancolaporte> what you think it's impossible?  It's so much easier than the previous distros i tried afew years ago...things have improved so much!! im really impressed
[04:38] <kjm> is my ultimate question - just installed the whole kit and kaboodle
[04:38] <feross> shriphani: yeah, either dsl or slax should be fine. THere are a couple other rescue CD's out ther but I think those are the two more known of the 'light' veriety.
[04:38] <efrancolaporte> well Konkeror shows in my internet application list and works like a charm in gnome
[04:38] <adrigen> HellO. Can anyone help me with SSH? yesterday I could connect to my ubuntu server (twice, once after reset)... today I can't. its saying "connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: No route to host"
[04:39] <efrancolaporte> i could just add an application button to the panel too
[04:39] <sethk> kjm, there are too many processes running
[04:39] <iLLf8d> hrm
[04:39] <adrigen> any ideas?
[04:39] <shriphani> ok feross i got dsl somewhere on a cd
[04:39] <sethk> kjm, I've never seen anyone do that before.  amazing.
[04:39] <compwiz> when will compiz be availble
[04:39] <iLLf8d> don't remember who I was helping when I left =P
[04:39] <sethk> kjm, you can't literally install everything.
[04:39] <viator> internet application list
[04:39] <viator> ?
[04:39] <iLLf8d> if you're still here and stuck pm me
[04:40] <kjm> pffffffft - no need to be an asshole.  Simply meant I installed from the CD.....so - how could there be "to many processes running" from the default install?
[04:40] <efrancolaporte> yeah, you know with ubuntu it puts all your applications by default in pre-defined folers in a start=menu like thing
[04:40] <efrancolaporte> Internet, Games, Graphics etc
[04:40] <kitche> adrigen: make sure your server is up( the ethernet and other network related things)
[04:40] <efrancolaporte> I installed KDE packages as well so Konkeror shows up in there
[04:40] <kitche> but anyways to many processes isn't the problem when it hasn't even booted yet
[04:41] <viator> ohhhhh
[04:41] <viator> i see
[04:41] <Geoffrey2> is there anything special I need to do to burn a CD under Live CD?
[04:41] <amicrawle> i need help PLEASZ
[04:41] <adrigen> kitche: what is the best way to check the ethernet? ping a website?
[04:41] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, rt. click on a folder and ask it to open with konqueror
[04:41] <kjm> kitche - yes, it is weird.  The only thing "different" I did during install was not using the default partitioning.
[04:41] <viator> well usually if you install kde apps  they show up in the proper menus
[04:41] <amicrawle> i need HELP
[04:42] <kitche> adrigen: yeah you can do that or use ifconfig
[04:42] <sethk> kitche, it can't give a message "no more processes at run level" if it hasn't booted
[04:42] <Gumby> ! w32codecs
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:42] <psYchotic> hello, I'm having a (little) problem: whenever I unplug my joystick, and then plug it in again, I need to recalibrate it.  Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:43] <Spy> sethk i'm back with lsmod list you asked me to configure my cable modem USB connection
[04:43] <rob> ?
[04:43] <kjm> kitche - but why the hell whould that happen?  Worked likfe a charm before - simply tried to move to a new hard drive.
[04:43] <sethk> Spy, how long is it?
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> How to vnc to a machine behind a NAT (or something, we're not sure but it's a uni network)?
[04:44] <kitche> kjm: that might be your problem
[04:44] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you just vnc to the public address
[04:44] <Spy> ?
[04:44] <kitche> kjm: it might not have liked being moved to a new hard drive unless you did a full reinstall
[04:44] <sethk> Spy, is it a long list?
[04:44] <nalioth> kjm: can we be civil, please?
[04:44] <Spy> yess
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> sethk: The IP she got from whatismyip.com doesn't work; it isn't even ping-able.
[04:44] <kjm> kitche - second full reinstall - and same issue with two installs in a row . . .
[04:44] <sethk> Spy, tonyyarusso that's not because of NAT.  I can ping my NATed machines.
[04:45] <sethk> Spy, sorry, wait a minute, I'm doing too many things at once.
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Okay, any other thoughts?
[04:45] <Spy> k :)
[04:45] <nalioth> !tell kjm about guidelines
[04:45] <Geoffrey2> oh, just to check, 170 MiB, that's megabytes, right?
[04:45] <kitche> kjm: ok it seems like a sata issue if any but I know that the init system is broken on your machine since I have ran into that problem a lot
[04:46] <sethk> tonyyarusso, can you contact the machine for any other reason?  can you ssh to it?
[04:46] <sethk> tonyyarusso, not pinging can be misleading because many routers block ping for security reasons.
[04:46] <feross> Geoffrey2: MiB? or just MB -> yes Mega-Byte
[04:46] <imbrandon> sethk can i help you ?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> Geoffrey2: Yes.  I think technically MiB vs MB distinguishes the 1000 per and 1024 per type, but I don't know which is which.
[04:47] <kitche> Geoffrey2: no that's not megabytes
[04:47] <sethk> imbrandon, thanks, nalioth beat you to it.  :)
[04:47] <amicrawle> WILL ANY BODY HELP ME ?
[04:47] <sethk> amicrawle, did you ask a question?  I didn't see it.
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> sethk: No idea.  She'd have to set up an account for me to try ssh.
[04:47] <imbrandon> !helpme
[04:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:47] <amicrawle> i need help   kxmame is being a royal pain in the ass
[04:47] <amicrawle> i got good roms
[04:47] <kitche> Geoffrey2: MiB is Mebibyte
[04:47] <imbrandon> amicrawle, watch the language in here please, and we need a little more info
[04:47] <Geoffrey2> feross, the CD/DVD creator says I should have at least 170 MiB free
[04:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, it's also possible that her ISP is blocking incoming connection requests for some, or all, ports.
[04:48] <amicrawle> and this is what it sayes
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> sethk: That sounds very plausible.  Any way around that?
[04:48] <amicrawle> pastebin.com
[04:48] <efrancolaporte> so... you guys know no way of changing the default file manager in ubuntu eh
[04:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if only some ports are blocked, you can tunnel around it.  People do this to run web servers on a box when the ISP blocks incoming http connection attempts
[04:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, but you need to use another server somewhere out on the net to relay
[04:49] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, i told you
[04:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, theoretically you could do it with vnc, also.
[04:49] <shriphani> you got a folder on the desktop ?
[04:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, but it's complicated, so we would need to know that it's really what's happening.
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> sorry i didnt read i was browsing help ill scroll up
[04:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if the packets never reach her machine, it's pretty hard to determine exactly why.
[04:49] <Geoffrey2> kitche, Mebi?  what the heck is a Mebi?  last time I checked it went Kilo, Mega, Tera.....
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Link for instructions maybe?  We have very little info on the network she's behind, b/c there's nothing published, and I kind of suspect that nobody on-site even knows.
[04:50] <amicrawle> sethk  will you im me
[04:50] <Geoffrey2> kitche, oops, Kilo, Mega, Giga, Tera....duh... :)
[04:50] <sethk> amicrawle, I'll try, but I haven't used that program.
[04:50] <kitche> Geoffrey2: MiB is 1,024 kilobytes
[04:50] <amicrawle> in irc
[04:50] <kitche> Geoffrey2: it's related to the Megabyte though
[04:50] <amicrawle> prive im me
[04:50] <sethk> amicrawle, hold on a moment, let me see exactly what it does.
[04:50] <efrancolaporte> "<shriphani> efrancolaporte, rt. click on a folder and ask it to open with konqueror"                                      anyway to make it so I don't have to select Konkeror manually every time?
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: If there are any other things we could do as tests that would be good too.  (it's sparklehistory that just joined if you have anything for her)
[04:51] <sethk> amicrawle, you can pm me if you wish
[04:51] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, once you open with konqueror it should become default app
[04:51] <kjm> !pastebin
[04:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:51] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I use ssh for that, because it's easy to set up and ISPs don't routinely block it.  you can set up the ssh server simply by doing (as root, of course)  apt-get install openssh-server
[04:52] <sethk> tonyyarusso, is there any connection sharing going on?
[04:52] <Geoffrey2> kitche, interesting..in all my computer classes, that term was never used...hmmm, well, if I need at least 170 MiB, should a completely blank CD be big enough?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Would that work the same both directions?  (I have that installed already, but she won't, but could get it if we need to.)
[04:52] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the kind of thing where you have several machines sharing the same public IP?
[04:52] <amicrawle> i did sethk
[04:52] <amicrawle> did a dcc
[04:52] <feross> Geoffrey2: give it a shot, wouldn't hurt.
[04:52] <Jas-Nix> is it dangerous to run dapper packages on edgy ?
[04:52] <sethk> tonyyarusso, she can ssh to you, but that wouldn't prove that you can (or cannot) do it in the opposite direction.
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> sethk: We don't know.  She's in a university residence using their connection, which we have no details on.
[04:52] <efrancolaporte> shriphani it doesnt, as soon as i close the konkeror window!
[04:52] <kitche> Geoffrey2: yes see a Megabyte is 1,000 kilobytes where a MiB is 1,024 kilobytes but a blank cd is fine
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> sethk: All right.
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> sparklehistory: Catch the package to install above?
[04:53] <sethk> amicrawle, your nick must not be registered.  you have to register your nick before freenode will allow you to DCC
[04:53] <Geoffrey2> feross, problem is, it keeps prompting me to Insert a rewritable or blank disc....
[04:53] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if the public IP is shared by more than one machine, then you probably have to set up port forwarding on the thing doing the sharing, which is often a  cable or dsl modem.
[04:53] <kitche> tonyyarusso: it might be due to the university blocking everything to in their network it happens a lot more then ISPs
[04:53] <amicrawle> i did @ one time  for got my password
[04:53] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, lets do this step by ssep
[04:53] <shriphani> step ^
[04:54] <shriphani> you got a folder on the desktop ?
[04:54] <sethk> tonyyarusso, of course I'm only guessing about connection sharing.  sparklehistory, do you know whether you are sharing an IP?
[04:54] <axl000> bill clinton loves ubuntu :lol: http://elmundoestuyo.byethost15.com/2006/09/29/bill-clinton-lo-que-el-mundo-necesita-es-ubuntu/
[04:54] <feross> tonyyarusso: you might want to try hamachi with your school friend. That way you can get a straight connection to her pc then ssh to it.
[04:54] <sethk> amicrawle, I'm not seeing your messages, sorry.
[04:54] <iLLf8d> but did he have sexual relations with ubuntu?
[04:54] <kjm> kitche - I have pasted my partitioning scheme - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25269/  Please tell me what is strange about this that would lead to a lack of the ability to boot?
[04:54] <feross> tonyyarusso: obviously with the hamachi ip.
[04:54] <Geoffrey2> I would REALLY love to know what happened when I shut the computer down last night that so thoroughly tanked the partition
[04:54] <axl000> lol
[04:55] <kitche> kjm: I need to see your /etc/fstab also
[04:55] <sparklehistory> sethk, no idea
[04:55] <feross> Geoffrey2: it might not have unmounted properly *shrug*
[04:55] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, i see no answer
[04:55] <sethk> Geoffrey2, what file system is on the partition?  sorry if you already said.
[04:55] <kjm> kitche - I wish I could get that far ----- I am stuck booting into windows......I can't get past a runlevel error.
[04:55] <efrancolaporte> sorry
[04:55] <sethk> sparklehistory, do you have more than one machine in your house/office/wherever that connects to the 'net?
[04:55] <kitche> sparklehistory: if your on a university then you are probably sharing an ip
[04:55] <efrancolaporte> yes i have a folder on the desktop now
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Can't set up port forwarding, since she doesn't have access to the modem.
[04:56] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, rt click on it
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> k
[04:56] <Geoffrey2> sethk, the one that died was an ext2, my ubuntu partition
[04:56] <sethk> tonyyarusso, then you are SOL, unfortunately.
[04:56] <amicrawle> sethk will you pm me
[04:56] <shriphani> in the pop-down menu select open with other application
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> k
[04:56] <sethk> Geoffrey2, change it to ext3, so it won't happen again.  or at least is much less likely to happen again.
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> sethk, kitche: Oh, one data point that might be helpful: I can't send her files through Gaim, but _can_ through Skype.
[04:56] <tkup> why is it that I'm getting qt3 when I specifically install qt4?
[04:56] <shriphani> now in the dialog select konqueror :)
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> feross: I'll google that.
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> k
[04:57] <feross> tonyyarusso: yeah, works great.
[04:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, that's quite interesting.
[04:57] <shriphani> that should be it
[04:57] <efrancolaporte> it opens it with konkeror but as soon as i close the window and re-try to open it without doing the same operation it opens with nautilus
[04:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I'll have to check on what skype does before I can tell you what it means, but the answer is certainly in there.
[04:57] <shriphani> hmm thats strange
[04:57] <efrancolaporte> unless i right click again and click open with again
[04:57] <Geoffrey2> sethk, trust me, just as soon as I can get my data files (what's left of them), backed up, I'll do that
[04:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the skype server mediates the transfers, which is part of the answer but the details are the important part.
[04:58] <compwiz> how do i get compiz???
[04:58] <shriphani> sethk, would gnome love a kde file manager ?
[04:58] <feross> Geoffrey2: do you have any external, USB, drives you can copy to?
[04:58] <Geoffrey2> feross, none
[04:58] <a_guest> quick question, my friend has windows installed and would like to try the ubuntu live cd. she has a lot of music, pictures and such. Is it completely safe to run the live cd? It cannot effect windows at all right?
[04:58] <sethk> shriphani, it would work.  I'm not sure, though, how smootly it would integrate.  I suspect not terribly smoothly.
[04:58] <feross> compwiz: did you check out ->http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235/co/co
[04:58] <|thunder> !compiz > |thunder
[04:59] <efrancolaporte> in the icons properties, tab "Open With" it displays "Konkeror" and "Open Folder". I can remove "Konqueror" but not "Open Folder" and i cant seem to be able to select Konqueror's button
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, correct
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, as long as you are reasonable and dont delete files on purpose that is
[04:59] <a_guest> thanks, last question. could she install packages under the live cd?
[04:59] <a_guest> say like themes?
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> yes
[05:00] <a_guest> ok thanks a lot
[05:00] <compwiz> yes i did
[05:00] <compwiz> i did not see it i will look more
[05:00] <shriphani> sethk, can defaulting the file manager of kde love gnome ?
[05:01] <a_guest> so she can basically use the live cd until she is ready to install? she can install packages and such but it will not be very quick right? because of the cd?
[05:01] <sethk> shriphani, I know kde quite well, but I don't know gnome well enough to answer that intelligently.
[05:01] <efrancolaporte> whatever thanks for all the effort guys :-)
[05:02] <Geoffrey2> actually, I have an additional partition on the the tail end of the drive..about 3 GB, I could blow away that partition, format it as something like FAT32, then go back into unbuntu and just copy the files to that partition for temporary storage
[05:02] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, she can install things like normal
[05:02] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, it only takes longer to load things into ram
[05:02] <sethk> Geoffrey2, sure, but I'm not sure what that buys you
[05:02] <sethk> Geoffrey2, why format it as fat?
[05:02] <pppoe_dude> (limitations of CD drive speed)
[05:02] <compwiz> i was gonna use this giud: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[05:03] <a_guest> I see, ok thanks. She just didn't want to risk losing a lot of data that should be backed up but it's not. Just wanted to make sure before running the live cd and playing with it. Thanks a lot
[05:03] <feross> Geoffrey2: true, but use ext3 instead, you can read ext3 from windows so it's a great way to store files on a modern fs.
[05:04] <Geoffrey2> sethk, right now i just want to get my data files out of harm's way before I nuke the ubuntu partition
[05:04] <mortal5> does anyone here use moblock?
[05:04] <Geoffrey2> feross, but can windows WRITE to ext3?
[05:04] <sethk> Geoffrey2, then use ext3, vfat isn't terribly safe and also loses permissions and such
[05:04] <feross> Geoffrey2: yup
[05:04] <Geoffrey2> ah, well, that's simple enough then
[05:04] <|thunder> WTF ?    "The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL"
[05:04] <sethk> |thunder, that's pretty clear, isn't it?
[05:04] <|thunder> sure is
[05:05] <compwiz> that is my problem!
[05:05] <compwiz> it sucks
[05:05] <sethk> |thunder, they got tired of people complaining that their alpha software is alpha software, I imagine.
[05:05] <compwiz> i was wandering if there was another way
[05:05] <Geoffrey2> does the making an additional partition on the end and transferring files there make sense?
[05:05] <compwiz> to install
[05:06] <kitche> compwiz: yes compile compiz if you wish to install it
[05:06] <compwiz> how?
[05:06] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes, better than CD. Unless your drive is on it's way out.
[05:06] <|thunder> sethk; yep, seems plausable. im looking for the modified version that allows the compiz themes and all plugins. i just switched to 32bit dapper from 64. I have all the precompiled packages to install an older working version on 64 bit dapper. but moving to 32 bit is going to entail some relearning.
[05:06] <kitche> compwiz there is tutorials all over some are geared toward ubuntu
[05:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I back up to both, but I'm a fanatic about backing up
[05:07] <compwiz> i dont know how compile stuff
[05:07] <Geoffrey2> feross, dunno....I haven't had any problems until I shut off the computer last night, and it decided it couldn't boot this evening when I turned it back on
[05:07] <compwiz> ok
[05:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I don't consider something backed up to cd unless I burn two copies.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> feross: It's telling me "TAP/TUN driver not found" (on the graphical version).
[05:07] <sethk> |thunder, perhaps the repositories will be back in a few days.
[05:08] <|thunder> sethk; the compiz in the repos dosnt not support themes.
[05:08] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu
[05:08] <feross> tonyyarusso: hmm, did you see any howto or just flinging it?
[05:08] <|thunder> i need to find the modified vesion. but i cant remember the author
[05:08] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu where ftpusers can be created and file level access can be provided to the user ?
[05:08] <sethk> |thunder, download the source, likely the name is in a file there somewhere
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> feross: I saw the README, and the web site's basic instructions, but haven't yet gone through the forums for it.
[05:08] <Blinker> i need help setting up lan file sharing with samba. i've looked over a handful of guides and nothing seems very straightforward
[05:09] <|thunder> sethk; i'l link you when i find what im talking about.
[05:09] <feross> tonyyarusso: this should get you up... http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VNC_and_Hamachi
[05:09] <sethk> feross, does that do tunneling for vnc?
[05:10] <feross> yup
[05:10] <sethk> feross, didn't know that, thank you.
[05:10] <feross> linux and windows
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> um, this would probably be WAY to simple to be possible, can Windows XP be installed on an ext3 partition?
[05:10] <Blinker> Geoffrey2: no
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> yep, figured that was way to obvious to be workable...ok
[05:11] <|thunder> what is Beryl ?
[05:11] <Blinker> Geoffrey2: winxp wont even access ext partitions
[05:11] <SpyNet> sethk do u forgot me
[05:11] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu where ftpusers can be created and file level access can be provided to the user ?
[05:11] <kitche> Beryl used to be compiz-quinnstorm |thunder
[05:11] <sethk> SpyNet, sorry
[05:11] <|thunder> ahh "Compiz community branch, also known as compiz-quinnstorm, becomes Beryl. "   thats what im looking for.
[05:11] <Spy> np
[05:11] <VCF> Hi again, I remote mounted a path into my apache webservers root path but the ownership and group are becomming issues, what apache settings do I need to fix this?
[05:11] <compwiz> i have to wait for the problen resolvd
[05:12] <feross> Blinker: it will with extra software
[05:12] <compwiz> :(
[05:12] <Blinker> so i guess no one is in the mood to help me write a config for samba =p
[05:12] <sethk> Spy, what I would like you to do is to do lsmod on your system now, and tell me what is in the lsmod list from the live CD, that is not in the lsmod list now when the modem isn't found.
[05:12] <Blinker> feross: really? thats kinda handy...
[05:12] <VCF> Apache version is : 2.0.55
[05:12] <sethk> Spy, do you understand what I mean?  we are figuring out what kernel modules are necessary to use your modem.
[05:13] <sethk> Blinker, yes, get's around the can't write to NTFS problem in many cases.  doesn't solve it, but works around it.
[05:13] <feross> Blinker: yeah, I was just telling Geoffrey2 that I have a 1 win partition, 1 swap, 1 ubuntu and 1 main storage for both win and ubuntu. works great
[05:13] <Spy> yes i understood sethk
[05:14] <Geoffrey2> feross, what do you put in the main storage partition?
[05:14] <sethk> Spy, ok, good.
[05:14] <brian98> hilarious
[05:14] <brian98> sudo apt-get install -f
[05:14] <brian98> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[05:14] <brian98>   gaim ubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <brian98> nice
[05:14] <brian98> so it want's me to use shell so
[05:14] <feross> Geoffrey2: MP3's, images, video etc.
[05:15] <feross> Geoffrey2: snes roms, karaoke files :)
[05:15] <kjm> kitche -  interesting - but it looks like /etc was never written.  Perhaps I should just reinstall and keep /etc within the / partition and have /swap and /home separate?
[05:15] <brian98> debfoster worked!
[05:15] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu where ftpusers can be created and file level access can be provided to the user ?
[05:15] <`JB> Is there Ubuntu software to open a Quickbooks file (.qbw) ?
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> feross: Do you know if that doc applies equally to the graphical binary and cli source compiled versions?
[05:16] <feross> acersales: you can just 'apt-get install ssh' then FileZilla from windows clients and use SFTP from it.
[05:16] <kitche> `JB: you can try gnucash
[05:16] <`JB> thanx
[05:17] <acersales> feross, i need server which support ftp users or atleast give user level access to directory
[05:17] <feross> tonyyarusso: hmm, not sure. I would just do it one way or the other. I would guess that yes because the gui basically depends on the cli anyway
[05:17] <feross> tonyyarusso: sorry about three answers, was thinking while typing
[05:18] <christophe971> hi
[05:18] <christophe971> am i wrong or there's not network-admin package anymore ?
[05:18] <christophe971> on dapper drake
[05:18] <christophe971> -not+no
[05:18] <feross> acersales: hmm not sure about just ftp. I usually just do ssh and run sftp but someone mentiond wu-ftp.
[05:19] <sethk> acersales, there are several ftp servers in the repos.  wu-ftpd is the simplest, but also has the worst security implications
[05:19] <Satafterh> is the new beta pretty stable
[05:19] <acersales> sethk, i need the best for security
[05:20] <sethk> acersales, it has to be ftp?  you can't use sftp instead?
[05:20] <medic30420> hey acer sales, are you an acer rep?
[05:20] <acersales> sethk, thing is i need user level access
[05:20] <acersales> sethk, and user need to be given file level access
[05:20] <sethk> acersales, I'm not sure what you mean.  sftp gives you user level access in the same way that ftp would
[05:21] <christophe971> why can't i install users-admin on dapper drake ?
[05:21] <lba> If I install Ubuntu on a laptop with Windows XP and a blank partition at hdb, will it prevent XP from booting?
[05:21] <medic30420> acersales, give us a for instance
[05:21] <medic30420> lba: yes, temporarily
[05:21] <lba> medic30420, How do I get it back?
[05:21] <medic30420> lba, google for a iso image of supergrub
[05:22] <sethk> lba, nothing on hdb would bother xp on hda, but it's very unusual to have both hda and hdb in a laptop
[05:22] <acersales> sethk, medic30420 , for instance there is a folder or a file which is writable by a single user and others can view it
[05:22] <feross> christophe971: hmm maybe netwox, I just saw it in apt-cache search so don't know if that's the replacement you're looking for
[05:22] <Audimage> how do i unmount an iso
[05:22] <sethk> acersales, ok, both sftp and ftp allow that.
[05:22] <sethk> Audimage, umount
[05:22] <christophe971> that's very weird :/
[05:22] <lba> sethk, I partitioned it long ago, reduced the size of XP and put Slackware on it.
[05:22] <medic30420> lba, make sure windows stays on the first partition
[05:22] <dzer0> hello
[05:22] <Audimage> sethk, i have mounted a couple of isos and now i don't need them, how do i remove them
[05:23] <lba> medic30420, Yes I certainly will.  and tnx for the tip about supergrub - never heard of it.
[05:23] <medic30420> lba, then put supergrub in and restore the boot record
[05:23] <acersales> so which is the best supported for ubuntu and most secure ?
[05:23] <d3v1ant_0n3> Just a quickie (hopefully)...I'm not getting the new splash with edgy, still getting the test card design...any suggestions?
[05:23] <sethk> Audimage, say it's mounted on /mnt/xyz.  you just do:  umount /mnt/xyz
[05:23] <acersales> sftp ?
[05:23] <lba> medic30420, You mean apt-get install supergrub?
[05:23] <medic30420> lba, then go edit the boot file to make sure it recognizes windows
[05:23] <sethk> Audimage, but I'm not sure if that is what you are really asking.
[05:23] <Audimage> ok, thanks
[05:23] <medic30420> nope
[05:23] <dzer0> I just bought a new server, put ubuntu server 6 on it, and ubuntu-desktop package for GUI, and I need to know how to get started with running apache, mysql, php, and sharing a folder on samba
[05:23] <medic30420> lba, you will have to burn a cd, so you can boot from it
[05:23] <lba> medic30420, I don't know much Grub, been using lilo all my life.
[05:24] <sethk> lba, that isn't hdb and hda, that's just multiple partitions on hda
[05:24] <medic30420> lba, hold on i will give you a link
[05:24] <lba> sethk, No I have separate partitions
[05:24] <dzer0> is there just like a howto somewhere for ubuntu server?
[05:24] <Ciaus> lba logical block addressing
[05:24] <lba> Ciaus, hda and hdb
[05:24] <christophe971> feross: no netwox isn't the usefull gnome application network-admin
[05:24] <dzer0> on the install I selected LAMP server, but no idea if apache etc are actually running or not
[05:24] <christophe971> where does it go ?
[05:25] <dzer0> and I want to share stuff with samba
[05:25] <polooooo> hi!
[05:25] <sethk> lba, you mean, yes I have separate partitions, not no I have separate partitions.
[05:25] <dzer0> can anyone help?
[05:25] <polooooo> i have noticed that when the update tool updates the kernel it keeps the old one on the system, how can i delete it?
[05:25] <sethk> dzer0, you can find out if apache is running in several ways
[05:26] <lba> sethk, Sorry I was unclear.  Yes, I have separate hda, hdb and some more since the old Slack uses several partitions I'm gonna wipe.  WXP is on hda though.
[05:26] <sethk> dzer0, try this:    (sudo) netstat -nap | grep 80
[05:26] <feross> dzer0: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[05:26] <sethk> lba, I'm still not sure we are saying the same thing.  hda, hdb are two different disk drives.  hda1, hda2, etc., are partitions on one physical drive
[05:26] <sethk> lba, you have two separate physical drives in the laptop?
[05:27] <acersales> feross, which is the most secure ftp server in linux world in your view ?
[05:27] <feross> dzer0: http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10 should mostly apply for samba
[05:27] <lba> sethk, I'm very sorry.  I _should_ have said hda1 for WXP, hd1b for Linux and some others
[05:27] <Audimage> i'll give it a whilrl
[05:27] <Audimage> worked, thanks
[05:27] <Audimage> that is what i was asking
[05:27] <Audimage> i thought the command was unmount, but it is umount, that is what i was doing wrong
[05:27] <acersales> sethk, medic30420 , which is the most secure ftp server in linux world in your view ?
[05:27] <feross> acersales: ssh.
[05:27] <sethk> lba, you mean hda1 for wxp, hda2, , hda3, etc. for linux, I think
[05:28] <sethk> acersales, let me look up the name, hold on a moment...
[05:28] <lba> sethk, It's late setkh and you are correct.  I really know this <g>
[05:28] <acersales> feross, but the user are on windows so how they can utilize it simply by browser ?
[05:29] <medic30420> lba, sorry, i cant find that link, i have the iso of supergrub, it is definately the way to go over lilo, but depending on your computer's specs, look into vmware also
[05:29] <sethk> acersales, I think of the ones in the repos, pro-ftpd has the best security.
[05:29] <feross> acersales: no, they will need FileZilla. Maybe firefox has a plugin for sftp, and IE7 might support it in future.
[05:29] <lba> sethk, When I setup the laptop, I basically chopped the big WXP partition in half and reserved hda2 and on for Linux
[05:29] <sethk> acersales, but remember, the "best" security for an ftp server is still none too good.
[05:29] <sethk> acersales, because the ftp protocol sends passwords in clear text.
[05:29] <sethk> lba, ok, that's what I thought.
[05:29] <christophe971> can someone tell me why users-admin has just disappear?
[05:30] <Rasta> i just fresh installed ubuntu but im getting some problems with apt-get, when i use it i get a "Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)" message and i cant install anything, xchat was installed trough synaptic, any ideas why this happens?
[05:30] <sethk> lba, now, what is the problem?
[05:30] <lba> medic30420, Tnx anway.  I'll search.  Can I do what I want with plain old Grub?  Maybe it's time to learn it.
[05:30] <sethk> Rasta, sudo apt-get .....
[05:30] <Rasta> sethk im using sudo
[05:30] <lba> sethk, Problem is I wish to wipe hda2 .. n, make a new hda2 and install Ubuntu without messing up Windows XP.
[05:30] <christophe971> Rasta: close synaptic
[05:31] <medic30420> yeah, i can give you a copy of my boot record for you to look at, basically the only thing to learn is the different nomeclature for the partitions, hda0 vs hda1
[05:31] <sethk> Rasta, I've never seen that problem when running apt-get with sudo, because (obviously) root does have permissions on the lock file.  Is it possible another instance of apt-get, or a synaptic, is running at the same time?
[05:31] <feross> christophe971: users-admin ? I see a System>Administration>Users and Groups  is that what you need?
[05:31] <lba> medic30420, You mean the grub menu?
[05:31] <sethk> lba, oh, no problems with that
[05:31] <christophe971> feross: yes i need it
[05:31] <christophe971> on my new ubuntu install, i can't see it
[05:31] <sethk> lba, as long as you don't mess with hda1, wxp will be fine
[05:31] <lba> sethk, I'm afraid!
[05:31] <sethk> lba, back up.  :)
[05:32] <sethk> lba, back up the MBR, also.    dd if=/dev/hda of=mbrfile bs=512 count=1
[05:32] <feross> christophe971: hmm didi you check the Alacarte Menu Editor to see if it was disabled from there.
[05:32] <christophe971> E: Couldn't find package users-admin
[05:32] <Rasta> wel, its a fresh install with the first login time, i see the little icon of updates avaliable at the top bar
[05:32] <sethk> lba, in fact, back up the mbr and the early boot loader:   dd if=/dev/hda of=mbrplus bs=512 count=100
[05:32] <Geoffrey2> if I want to use cp to copy a directory and all subdirectories and files within it, what options would I use?
[05:32] <lba> sethk, An excellent suggestion.  I will back it up.
[05:32] <acersales> sethk, so if i use sftp the user can access by browser ?
[05:32] <sethk> lba, you don't really need 100, that's just a number I know is high enough.  do NOT restore with that number.  :)
[05:32] <Rasta> sorry if its a dumb question i have been away from linux by 2 years
[05:32] <medic30420> lba, the biggest issue you are going to have is that when you install ubuntu it will overwrite winxp
[05:32] <sethk> acersales, no, not without additional stuff.
[05:33] <medic30420> lba, correction, wxp's MBR
[05:33] <lba> medic30420, Is the mbr more than 512 bytes?
[05:33] <medic30420> lba, then you will have to edit grub or lilo to recognize winxp
[05:33] <surface> when i play music with xmms and i surf web and play flash, flash have no sound. i close xmms, and flash have no sound too. until i restart firefox, the flash have sound back. can this resolve?
[05:33] <acersales> ritenow i m using ftpd and the user can access from the browser ?
[05:33] <acersales> isnt that possible ?
[05:33] <sethk> acersales, not with sftp
[05:33] <medic30420> lba, not sure, but it is a fixed size
[05:34] <feross> Rasta: just click on it and it will ask for password. then update
[05:34] <lba> medic30420, The only important thing - will I be able to restore booting to WXP later on ?  I don't usually like to run it.
[05:34] <sethk> acersales, browsers support ftp, but not sftp (in general)
[05:34] <medic30420> lba, i have xp and linux dual booting without any problems
[05:34] <lba> medic30420, By editing grub yes?
[05:34] <medic30420> lba, that is where grub comes in, grub is installed by default in ubuntu
[05:34] <Rasta> feross, ok ill go step by step
[05:34] <sethk> medic30420, lba you won't necessarily have to change grub.  the kernel name is likely to change
[05:34] <Rasta> my fingers are shaking
[05:35] <sethk> medic30420, he has a dual boot system already.  he's just upgrading the linux part
[05:35] <medic30420> lba, grub has a config file that you may have to edit
[05:35] <Ciaus> umm
[05:35] <medic30420> sethk, lba, ah missed that part
[05:35] <lba> medic30420, Yes I'm prepared to edit.
[05:35] <sethk> medic30420, I know  :)
[05:35] <Geoffrey2> if I want to copy all the files in a folder, and include all the sub-folders and the files in them, what command would I need?
[05:35] <feross> Rasta: must be from the MS updates ;) .. not to worry, Ubuntu NEVER messes up updates ... cough cough ...
[05:35] <sethk> medic30420, I'm reassuring him that he won't destroy wxp on hda1 by upgrading linux on hda2, 3, etc.
[05:35] <acersales> sethk, so how to bring all these features in my ftp then o_o
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, cp -a
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> Geoffrey2, cp -a
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, tar
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, cpio
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, lots of choices
[05:36] <acersales> :(
[05:36] <sethk> acersales, you have to take the security hit, but you need to be aware of the implications
[05:36] <Rasta> oops
[05:36] <sethk> acersales, you have to make very sure that an ftp user can't escape the ftp environment and get to the rest of the box
[05:36] <acersales> sethk, i can take a security hit but the thing is i need user level access
[05:36] <lba> sethk, medic30420 Let me sum up what I _think_ have told me.  A new install of Ubuntu on hda2 will not touch hda1 but will write grub into the mbr.  I will be able to boot Ubuntu but not WXP until I edit grub.  Is that correct?
[05:36] <sethk> acersales, that's not a problem.
[05:37] <Imrahil> What is the meaning of files called core.xxxx in my / directory? They are around 17MB. They seem to be created every time the system reboots. Can find anything in the logs.
[05:37] <acersales> sethk, so then which ftp u suggest ?
[05:37] <sethk> acersales, wu-ftpd is probably the easiest to deal with
[05:37] <feross> acersales: if you are really worried about security and NEED to use FTP you should look into ftp jail-root.
[05:38] <sethk> acersales, with wu-ftp, the user has exactly the same privileges as if the user were logged in
[05:38] <sethk> acersales, but user level access and an ftp jail are pretty much mutually exclusive
[05:38] <christophe971> do every fresh dapper user have a users-admin package ?
[05:39] <acersales> sethk, what about ftpd the default in fedora ?
[05:39] <Geoffrey2> well, every email I ever had just bit the dust
[05:39] <linav> i have got wireless internet, i am running it on 5.10, it connects fine but drops the line all the time.
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, what you mean by user-admin package ?
[05:39] <sethk> acersales, what I mean by that is, if you need a user to have the same access when connected via ftp as the user would when connected via, say, rsh, then you give up the jail.
[05:39] <surface> when i play music with xmms and i surf web and play flash, flash have no sound. i close xmms, and flash have no sound too. until i restart firefox, the flash have sound back. can this resolve?
[05:39] <linav> to connect again i need to restart my machine, which is so annoying
[05:39] <Geoffrey2> .mozilla-thunderbird is gone, from the looks of it
[05:39] <linav> can any one help me out in this regard, as what is causing the problem
[05:39] <sethk> acersales, the last time I checked wu-ftpd was the default for fedora, but that was several rev's ago and probably no longer true.
[05:39] <christophe971> wickedpuppy: i mean, do you have "E: Couldn't find package users-admin" when you "apt-get install users-admin" ?
[05:40] <sethk> acersales, for a long long time red hat, and then fedora, used wu-ftpd started by xinetd
[05:40] <compwiz> i selected 277mb of stuff in snaptic then dad need to use the internet
[05:40] <feross> surface: nahh, I have the same issue now and then.
[05:40] <sethk> acersales, may still be using it, but may not.
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, i never installed a package called users-admin before
[05:40] <christophe971> mm
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> and i been using ubuntu for 3 years now
[05:40] <acersales> sethk, thanks for all the information i will try let c which work the best ;)
[05:40] <christophe971> wickedpuppy: you have the users-admin application ?
[05:40] <Geoffrey2> what does the red box with the x in it next to a folder mean?
[05:40] <acersales> bye guyz
[05:40] <christophe971> gnome application
[05:41] <feross> linav: use NetworkManager .... awsome for wireless.
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, in my system -> administration -> Users and Groups ...
[05:41] <soheil> hi
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> is that what you mean ?
[05:41] <christophe971> wickedpuppy: i just don't have it
[05:41] <christophe971> yes
[05:41] <soheil> any1 helping a chess junky?
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, it comes with dapper ...
[05:41] <soheil> I ran gnome-chess
[05:42] <christophe971> i don't have the users-admin , and i don't have network-admin :(
[05:42] <christophe971> what should i do ?
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> i dont even know the package name till you tell me
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, install them .. of course
[05:42] <sethk> christophe971, that's not the name of the package.
[05:42] <soheil> now I wanna connect platchess.com server
[05:42] <christophe971> sethk: what's their names ?
[05:42] <medic30420> lba, after installing ubuntu, grub should overwrite the MBR, add this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25271/ to your menu.list (/boot/grub/menu.list)
[05:42] <linav> feross: will network manager reconnect my internet connection after it drops
[05:43] <soheil> plz help me
[05:43] <medic30420> lba, and that will add XP, grub will autodetect everything else
[05:43] <sethk> ChrisBradley, gnome-system-tools
[05:43] <linav> feross: or in the first place does it also drop the line
[05:43] <sethk> sorry
[05:43] <sethk> christophe971, gnome-system-tools
[05:43] <sethk> ChrisBradley, sorry, tab completion  :)
[05:43] <soheil> how to run an exe file?
[05:43] <Geoffrey2> can anyone tell me what a little red box with a white x in it at the upper right hand corner of a folder means?
[05:43] <medic30420> lba, hda1 = hd0,0
[05:43] <christophe971> woot
[05:43] <feross> linav: go to here for a quick howto setup. http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com/..
[05:43] <christophe971> sethk: thanks a lot
[05:43] <sethk> soheil, exe files run in windows.
[05:43] <sethk> christophe971, np
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> soheil, wine
[05:44] <sethk> soheil, you can run a windows emulator in linux, such as wine
[05:44] <feross> linav: well I'm not sure if it will resolve your problems but I've tried several programs for wireless and that one works the best IMHO.
[05:44] <sethk> soheil, but you can't run a windows executable directly.
[05:44] <linav> feross: thank you
[05:44] <feross> soheil: with wine
[05:45] <feross> oh dahh didn't see reply
[05:45] <lba> medic30420, I have a long dist call from wife.  Be back ASAP.
[05:45] <Ciaus> woo hoo!
[05:45] <Ciaus> wrong channel sorry
[05:45] <soheil> I wine'd it
[05:45] <feross> Geoffrey2: email is not that important. Prolly all spam anyway ;)
[05:46] <soheil> it's name is warrior
[05:46] <harisund> Anybody running Ubuntu under VMware in Windows here? I am trying to get Edgy Beta under VMware, and everything is fine. Just one question. How do I transfer files? Right now, I am using scp...
[05:46] <soheil> as I see it when running ls
[05:46] <feross> soheil: using blitz?
[05:46] <soheil> pardon me?
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> feross, so the x means the folder is basically gone?
[05:47] <feross> soheil: the chess program you're trying to run.. blitz?
[05:47] <soheil> no
[05:47] <soheil> warrior
[05:47] <sethk> soheil, the gnu chess program is quite respectable, and doesn't need wine  :)
[05:47] <soheil> I downloaded it
[05:47] <feross> Geoffrey2: I guess, the copy to the other partition didn't work?
[05:47] <soheil> what's the name?
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> harisund, scp -r file1 user@host:.  ... i suggest man scp for more info ..
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> you can set port and such
[05:48] <soheil> http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl
[05:48] <Spy> sethk i've looked both lsmod lists to see what's different about USB connection
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> no, the copy worked....I'd just hate to lose all that email if it's not necesarry
[05:48] <sethk> Spy, ok, and ?
[05:48] <feross> harisund: hmm tried samba?
[05:49] <Geoffrey2> feross, just curious that nobody in here can tell me what that symbol is telling me.....
[05:49] <sethk> Geoffrey2, what's the symbol?
[05:49] <IcemanV9> harisund: set "shared documents" to be shared (winxp); in edgy, places > network servers, look for your winxp server
[05:50] <Geoffrey2> sethk, red box with a white x inside it, it's at the upper right hand corner of multiple files and folders
[05:50] <soheil> gnome-chess sucks
[05:50] <d3v1ant_0n3> Geoffrey2: if the symbol is like I think, it just means that Gnome hasn't got an icon for it
[05:50] <sethk> soheil, sounds like you'll be better off in windows, then, at least for chess.
[05:50] <d3v1ant_0n3> I think
[05:50] <soheil> I can't connect too the server  via it
[05:50] <IcemanV9> how can i stop "join/part" notices?? /ignore something?
[05:51] <sethk> Geoffrey2, and you see this where?
[05:51] <harisund> wickedpuppy: scp works fine. I use that. feross and IcemanV9 I am trying to use samba. The funny thing is, I am not able to 'mount' but am able to browse using smbclient ..
[05:51] <junmin> hi, can somebody recommend me some tutorial/books/web sites about the server administration(web server, web hosting)?? please
[05:51] <sethk> IcemanV9, on xchat you can right click on the tab for the channel
[05:51] <wood> Hi ! I made a mistake ! I have deleted the line root in the /etc/passwd is there any way to be able to create back the root in the ubuntu ?
[05:51] <soheil> seth------------->I wanna be a ubuntu user
[05:51] <Geoffrey2> sethk, in my Home folder.....
[05:51] <Spy> sethk on live cd modeule usbnet used by 1 cdc ether don't appear on my hdd uduntu installation lsmod list and on the installation lsmod list from my hdd i can see module usbcore used by 2 ohci_hcd that i don't see in live-cd lsmod list
[05:51] <soheil> it's free
[05:51] <sethk> wood, sure, just put the line back in.
[05:51] <wood> sethk: cant it says .. permission denied
[05:52] <sethk> wood,use sudo with the edit command
[05:52] <sethk> wood, back up the file first
[05:52] <wood> ok ill try
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, ok, you definitely need to insmod usbnet
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, do   modprobe usbnet
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, that should pull in all the other modules that usbnet needs, as well as usbnet
[05:52] <w30> wood: see if you have a passwd- file. that is a Ubuntu created backup file.
[05:52] <IcemanV9> harisund: yea. you don't have to mount it at all. that's the beauty of it. :)
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, you must run insmod as root (or with sudo)
[05:53] <Spy> k
[05:53] <Spy> and ...
[05:53] <feross> soheil: warrior doesn't work. I think blitz only connects to it's irc network but it's a good program and I've used it in the past in linux with wine.
[05:53] <sethk> w30, good point.
[05:53] <w30> wood: if you do then sudo cat passwd- > passwd
[05:53] <feross> soheil: did  you install warrior before trying to use it?
[05:53] <wood> w30 ok ill try now
[05:53] <sethk> wood, back up the current file first.  make a copy of it somewhere.  sudo cp /etc/passwd /root
[05:54] <sethk> wood, e.g.
[05:54] <soheil> Does it connect to the playchess server?
[05:54] <sethk> Spy, after you do that, run the network administration tool
[05:54] <soheil> how to install it?
[05:54] <wood> w30 -bash: passwd: Permission denied
[05:54] <digit> hi all
[05:54] <foureight84> anyone here using gaim2 beta 3?
[05:54] <sethk> Spy, hopefully you'll see the interface, and be able to highlight it and click on activate
[05:54] <surface> when i play music with xmms and i surf web and play flash, flash have no sound. i close xmms, and flash have no sound too. until i restart firefox, the flash have sound back. can this resolve?
[05:54] <sethk> Spy, if that doesn't work, add usbnet to /etc/modules and reboot
[05:54] <foureight84> i don't know how to enable esc to close chat windows
[05:55] <digit> anyone here use the new edgy?
[05:55] <sethk> Spy, in fact, add usbnet to /etc/modules anyway.
[05:55] <jtholmes> wood try  sudo su   see if you get a   #
[05:55] <feross> soheil: you need to run 'wine setupwarrior.exe' first.. then run the exe that installs under your ~./wine directory
[05:55] <w30> wood: you gotta put sudo in front of cat
[05:55] <sethk> Spy, you don't want to have to insmod it every time you boot.
[05:55] <soheil> How ti installl warrior?
[05:55] <feross> I mean .wine
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> ok, forget it...I'll just write the whole thing off, blow away the partition, and start over again.....
[05:55] <sethk> Spy, if you are lucky, after adding usbnet to /etc/modules and rebooting, your network will magically appear.  :)
[05:55] <Spy> ok thx a lot sethk :)
[05:55] <wood> w30: when i do sudo su .. sudo: no passwd entry for root!
[05:56] <w30> wood: if you lost sudo then do it from a Ubuntu live cd boot
[05:56] <Geoffrey2> can I leave the current linux-swap partition as is?
[05:56] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes
[05:56] <lba> medic30420, OK I"m back and have read what you wrote before.  I should be able to do this - but it will be tmw.  Thank you very much for your help and advice.
[05:56] <shriphani> would visudo help ?
[05:56] <wood> w30 ok i have the cd but what is the procedure exactly ?
[05:56] <shriphani> cuz if you are there in /etc/sudoers you should have sudo access
[05:57] <medic30420> lba, no problem, but dl and burn supergrub, incase everything goes fubar you can boot anything from it
[05:57] <feross> soheil: you need to find the warrior installation file. then from the console execute it with wine.
[05:57] <sethk> lba, and don't forget to back up the mbr
[05:57] <wood> w30: you want me to reboot on the cd
[05:57] <feross> soheil: you will see the installation as if you were running windows
[05:57] <bobbb> is there a helpfile somewhere that will assist me in configuring my soundblaster audigy card.  I've played around a bit and can't get sound
[05:57] <w30> wood: boot the live cd or any rescue cd then mount the Ubuntu partition and then go to mountpoint/etc/and cat passwd- > passwd
[05:58] <jtholmes> wood do  a df -k  and make sure where  root is mounted
[05:58] <lba> sethk, Yes and thank you too.  You guys hang around this room much?
[05:58] <feross> soheil: the thing with wine is that it puts all of the fake windows installation under your home directory under the .wine/ directory
[05:58] <[koji] > how do i run 2 commands concurrently?
[05:58] <wood> w30 : ok thanks
[05:58] <shriphani> Koffa, open two terminals
[05:58] <Geoffrey2> oh, if the partition is already there, can I simply put the Live CD in and have it reformat the existing partition?
[05:58] <feross> [koji] : you mean like this  command1 && command2
[05:59] <feross> Geoffrey2: yeah
[05:59] <jtholmes> kojil or   command ;  command  but they will never be concurrent but close
[05:59] <Geoffrey2> feross, during the install process?
[05:59] <feross> Geoffrey2: just remember to change it to an EXT3
[06:00] <[koji] > feross will they be on their on pid?
[06:00] <soheil> setupcan't install warrior
[06:00] <soheil> :((
[06:00] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes during install
[06:00] <[koji] > jtholmes, that is sequential
[06:01] <feross> soheil: hmm did you run winecfg L
[06:01] <harisund> what are the primary differences between ext3 and ext2? What are each one's advantages over the other?
[06:01] <jtholmes> wood  run live cd;  open konsole window;  mount  /dev/hdXX /mnt;  edit /mnt/etc/passwd   add  root   ;   reboot
[06:01] <feross> [koji] : yes own pid
[06:01] <viator> anyone use songbird?
[06:02] <soheil> no
[06:02] <briguyd> harisund, ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2, and basically adds journaling to ext2
[06:02] <viator> im using the o.2 version and for beta software seems to run rather smoothly
[06:02] <viator> i like it
[06:02] <briguyd> viator, is it stable?
[06:02] <viator> briguyd so far yes
[06:03] <briguyd> how fast does it run?
[06:03] <feross> soheil: you should run winecfg first to make sure everything is configured correctly
[06:03] <soheil> OK
[06:03] <viator> ive put it through the ringers and so far it only was a little laggy at worst
[06:03] <d3v1ant_0n3> soheil: If you run Synaptic and search for chess, there are a whole load of chess games available
[06:03] <feross> soheil: do it under your own user not sudo winecfg or anything like that
[06:03] <junmin> hi, can somebody recommend me some tutorial/books/web sites about the server administration(web server, web hosting)?? please
[06:03] <briguyd> viator, any reason to switch now?
[06:04] <jtholmes> jummin  www.apache.org  has a lot of good info,  also  google  apache config
[06:04] <viator> well i like how it snags all the av stuff from websites/blogs
[06:05] <wood> w30: Amazing it works fine !! have replace the passwd from the passwd- and everything is ok
[06:05] <rain_man> greetings one and all
[06:05] <wood> w30: that's cool !! :) thanks again my friend
[06:05] <viator> one thing that is kinda buggy though is when you minimize it has a slim floating bar and the mouse over is kinda off
[06:06] <Imrahil> What is the meaning of files called core.xxxx in my / directory? They are around 17MB. They seem to be created every time the system reboots. Can find anything in the logs.
[06:06] <w30> wood: I did that too so I been there done that ha!
[06:06] <briguyd> viator, when its a bit more polished, ill consider it, but between it not being absolutely stable and me being on slow, slow hardware, ill wait a bit
[06:06] <jtholmes> imahil  run  file  core.xxxx  to see what is core dumping
[06:06] <cherubiel> Imrahil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_dump
[06:06] <tkup> Imrahil, they are images of the process that just accidently crashed. xxx represents the pid of the process before it crashed
[06:07] <wood> w30: this is the way we learn more when we make some errors ;) thanks a lot for your help !
[06:07] <feross> junmin: do you want a tutorial on how to setup a linux server or a general book on hey, this is linux and what you can do with it?
[06:07] <briguyd> anyone use ReiserFS?
[06:07] <dzer0_> hey
[06:07] <dzer0_> I got apache running
[06:07] <dzer0_> but now I want to have an ftpd and some samba sharing
[06:07] <viator> yeah if you dont want to use it as a day to day media player i wouldnt blame you
[06:08] <dzer0_> and a vnc server would be nice
[06:08] <viator> but if you just want to mess around and test it
[06:08] <viator> go fo it
[06:08] <brian98> just installed gaim 2 beta
[06:08] <brian98> very nice
[06:08] <briguyd> yeah, thanks
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> brian98, join the club
[06:08] <cherubiel> dzer0_: vsftpd for ftp, samba and vncserver
[06:08] <wood> w30: buy the way do you know  a little about apache2 ?
[06:08] <briguyd> brian98, how did you install it?
[06:08] <viator> gaim 2 comes with edgy
[06:08] <viator> i thought
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> briguyd, they have repos
[06:08] <brian98> briguyd, give me two secs
[06:08] <Parabola> Hey I'm having an issue mounting an NTFS partition, i cant seem to change the permissions on the folder as its read only
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> Parabola --> #ubuntu
[06:09] <Parabola> ?
[06:09] <feross> junmin: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz this is an oldie but I think still good.
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:09] <w30> wood: I guess you are buying the next round of beers then......
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> im such a hypocrite
[06:09] <Parabola> its mounted, and root can open it
[06:09] <Parabola> but even if i chown the mount folder, users cant see it
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, i believe usually ntfs only mounts read only
[06:09] <dzer0_> cherubiel: ok I just apt-get install vsftpd and now what how do I configure it
[06:09] <IcemanV9> |thunder: how so?
[06:09] <brian98> briguyd, add deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse to your repos..
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> oh
[06:09] <Parabola> yes i know
[06:09] <briguyd> pppoe_dude, theres a way to make it read/write i think
[06:10] <cherubiel> Parabola: whats the fstab entry?
[06:10] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  im not writing to it
[06:10] <Parabola> but i cant give permissions to mount point either
[06:10] <Parabola> cherubiel,  one sec
[06:10] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, chmod 777 <mount point>
[06:10] <briguyd> Parabola, check ubuntuguide.org , i think they have a tutorial on read/write NTFS
[06:10] <brian98> or anyone else who wants gaim2
[06:10] <brian98> add deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse to your repos..
[06:10] <cherubiel> !ntfs > Parabola
[06:10] <w30> wood: not much, mostly what you need to know is html but I don't so...I am limited.
[06:10] <Parabola> stfu
[06:10] <cherubiel> !family
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <Parabola> you guys arent reading what im saying at all
[06:10] <Parabola> calm down a sec
[06:10] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, and chown root:root <mnt pt.> if using root
[06:10] <brian98> then wget http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:10] <wood> w30: lol heheeh yeah but I'll need to go sleep.. have to go to Qc City tomorrow .. this is gonna be a big day .. and it's 2 hours from where i live.. anyway.. i just wondering if you know where is the default root directory of the apache2 (www) file
[06:10] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  read up i did that it wont stick
[06:10] <|thunder> IcemanV9; i dont really know what its doing. keeps asking if its ok to overwrite files or some random thing everytime I apt install anything.
[06:11] <brian98> then sudo apt-key add GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, oh gotcha. thats a common thing with mounting
[06:11] <Parabola> cherubiel, fstab entry: /dev/sda1 /media/Data ntfs defaults 0 0
[06:11] <viator> does gaim2 have webcam support yet?
[06:11] <w30> wood: apache root directory is /var/www
[06:11] <brian98> not necessary but tidy up rm GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:11] <Geoffrey2> feross, I probably want to manually edit the partitions, right?
[06:11] <brian98> sorry
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, are you mounting it automatically?
[06:11] <brian98> sudo rm GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:11] <brian98> then sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <IcemanV9> |thunder: can u remove vmware player? to see if it does calm down?
[06:11] <wood> w30: im trying to find in the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf the good line
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, using fstab? try doin it manually see if it works that way
[06:12] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  thats pointless
[06:12] <brian98> sudo aptitude update
[06:12] <Parabola> im not manually mounting my drives
[06:12] <feross> Parabola: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[06:12] <Parabola> my problem is my fstab entry
[06:12] <Parabola> i just need a proper working one
[06:12] <Parabola> thats all.
[06:12] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes
[06:12] <wood> w30: do you know in wich file i can modify the path ?
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, well... maybe if u do, then u can check out mtab
[06:12] <VCF> How do I remove a user from a group ?
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> see what works
[06:12] <soheil> even 'ls' won't work on my computer
[06:12] <|thunder> IcemanV9; i tried, it says it cant remove it because it removed the vmware-kernel first.
[06:12] <soheil> :((
[06:12] <briguyd> brian98, thanks
[06:12] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  please stop trying to help me, thanks mate
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, this isnt a help channel to begin with
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> go to #ubuntu
[06:12] <marshall> hey guys
[06:13] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  thats what channel youre in right now you retard
[06:13] <brian98> briguyd, sudo apt-get intstall gaim should do it then!
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:13] <|thunder> wow
[06:13] <w30> wood: I have seen it but I don't remember. Why do you need to change it?
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> sorry
[06:13] <cherubiel> Parabola: rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[06:13] <VCF> How do I remove a user from a group ?
[06:13] <cherubiel> try that instead of defaults
[06:13] <brian98> Parabola, hey
[06:13] <Parabola> cherubiel,  thats what i needed, thanks man
[06:13] <feross> Parabola: check out that last link I posted
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> <--- confused
[06:13] <Parabola> feross theres 500GB of data on here, im NOT going to write to it
[06:13] <Parabola> but thanks anyway
[06:13] <brian98> calm down :)
[06:13] <iCod> whats something fun to do in ubuntu?
[06:13] <wood> w30: ok I'll stay it there
[06:13] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, interesting.....it looks like the partition that tanked WAS an ext3
[06:13] <IcemanV9> |thunder: i have seen it before (once) on my box and another one on ubuntuforums; i don't remember how it went though
[06:13] <cherubiel> Parabola: whats in it dude? :)
[06:14] <bruenig> ICod, browse the internet
[06:14] <iCod> others?
[06:14] <cherubiel> Parabola: maybe we should share ;)
[06:14] <bruenig> iCod, listen to music
[06:14] <brian98> briguyd, work for you?
[06:14] <cherubiel> iCod: games?
[06:14] <briguyd> installing now
[06:14] <bruenig> !info neverball
[06:14] <briguyd> ill tel you in a sec, brian98
[06:14] <ubotu> neverball: 3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 468 kB
[06:14] <iCod> obvious choices those are...
[06:14] <soheil> why ls won't work?
[06:14] <bruenig> iCod, whatever you do with computer that is fun
[06:15] <iCod> neverball rocks, my system can't take it though
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> Would a USB wifi adaptor work okay with Ubuntu versus a PCI one?
[06:15] <Parabola> cherubiel, lol lets get it working first
[06:15] <w30> wood: if you have bookoo stuff in another place I would think you could semi-link to it after getting the owner permissions right.
[06:15] <Parabola> then we can talk
[06:15] <briguyd> yeah, i played neverball on my other system, its alright
[06:15] <Parabola> cherubiel, should i remove defaults from the line?
[06:15] <briguyd> hard to control, though
[06:15] <feross> soheil: hmm try ls -la
[06:15] <bruenig> I can't handle neverball either
[06:15] <cherubiel> Parabola: yes, please do.
[06:15] <briguyd> i highly suggest a joystick
[06:15] <Parabola> cherubiel,  k one sec gonna remount
[06:15] <IcemanV9> |thunder: fwiw, i used kqemu instead of vmware player; did not give me any problem
[06:15] <iCod> I do have a problem, system monitor reads 100% cpu usage
[06:15] <briguyd> even then its hard
[06:15] <iCod> any ideas?
[06:15] <feross> iCod: tried snes
[06:15] <wood> w30: never heard about bookoo
[06:16] <Parabola> haha worked
[06:16] <Parabola> cherubiel,  you're the man
[06:16] <bruenig> iCod, stop running all your programs at once
[06:16] <iCod> tonyyarasu, usb can be an experience, pci may be a lot easier
[06:16] <briguyd> brian98, worked like a charm, thanks
[06:16] <soheil> soheil@ubuntu:~$ ls -la
[06:16] <soheil> ls: relocation error: ls: symbol opendmr, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:16] <feross> iCod: run fvwm-crystal ... just for fun. you might like it.
[06:16] <iCod> bruenig, gaim and firefox is not much
[06:16] <sethk> iCod, run top, see what's taking up all the cpu
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> iCod: How come?  I thought usually USB stuff worked well.
[06:16] <brian98> briguyd, nice one!
[06:16] <|thunder> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[06:16] <|thunder>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:16] <|thunder> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:16] <|thunder>  vmware-player
[06:16] <|thunder> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:16] <VCF> deluser ?
[06:16] <soheil> it errors, u see
[06:16] <bruenig> iCod, don't you lie to me
[06:17] <w30> wood: probably not spelled right but it's a vietnam veterns term for a vietnamese name for many
[06:17] <iCod> tonyyarusso, not for me
[06:17] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the usb network layer is rather new
[06:17] <iCod> but every system is different
[06:17] <|thunder> ill check out kqemu. thanks
[06:17] <sethk> tonyyarusso, add in wireless, which is also somewhat new, and you can get some instability
[06:17] <wood> w30 : lol okkk hehehe
[06:17] <w30> wood: like bookoo soldiers in the hills
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Ah.
[06:17] <iCod> bash: fvwm-crystal: command not found
[06:17] <Parabola> woo
[06:17] <Parabola> xhcat crashed
[06:17] <feross> soheil: hmm, not sure, first time I see that..
[06:17] <nocti> is it safe to write to ntfs partition in dapper?
[06:17] <wood> w30: in english is : a lot and french is beaucoup :P
[06:18] <sethk> iCod, run top
[06:18] <Parabola> nocti,  theres a beta driver
[06:18] <iCod> sethk, modprobe
[06:18] <Parabola> next year a stable will be out
[06:18] <edgy> Hi, I just paid for a debian server on the net and would prefer to change it to ubuntu. Should I just change the sources.lst file and do upgrade and dist-upgrade or is there a better solution?
[06:18] <Parabola> just wait until then
[06:18] <Parabola> unless you dont care about your data :)
[06:18] <iCod> I've discussed the problem with others, never could pin point it
[06:18] <nocti> Parabola, ah thanks.
[06:18] <Parabola> nocti,  np
[06:18] <briguyd> brian98, should apt-get be able to update gaim when a new beta and eventually the final 2.0 is released?
[06:18] <feross> iCod: http://polishlinux.org/apps/fvwm-crystal-speed-and-transparency/
[06:18] <sethk> iCod, modprobe is running and using up cpu?
[06:18] <Parabola> nocti,  your best bet is put your ntfs drives in another box and use samba to write to them :)
[06:18] <w30> wood: probably the Vietnamese were bastardizing French beaucoup
[06:19] <edgy> briguyd: yes
[06:19] <wood> w30: maybe..
[06:19] <sethk> iCod, ?
[06:19] <iCod> what?
[06:19] <nocti> Parabola, can an XP  virtual machine do the same thing? got only 1 box :)
[06:19] <iCod> yeah
[06:19] <sethk> iCod, did you say modprobe is using up your cpu?
[06:19] <iCod> yep
[06:19] <soheil> why ls doesn't work?
[06:19] <Parabola> nocti,  i dont know man, probobly not :-\
[06:19] <soheil> :-?
[06:19] <sethk> iCod, you have a circular dependency
[06:19] <wood> w30: seems that apache2 is working but when I want to surf on .. it wants to downlaod the file instead of showing it
[06:19] <max__> Will the ATI Radeon X1300 Pro AGP 256MB Video Card run in Linuxx
[06:19] <Parabola> because VMware does all the transitions
[06:19] <nocti> ok
[06:19] <iCod> about 50-60%
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, it's the equivalent of an endless loop
[06:20] <iCod> fix?
[06:20] <nocti> i think i'll just wait then
[06:20] <feross> soheil: try google
[06:20] <Parabola> like if your sound doesnt work in windows and you setup vmware in it and install linux, your sound wont work either
[06:20] <red|rain> Hi, in Evolution I have 3 email accounts but when I get emails they all go into one folder, is there a away I can seperate my different accounts?
[06:20] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, drive format in progress....
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, try erasing and recreating your modules database
[06:20] <Parabola> nocti, it uses host drivers for everything
[06:20] <soheil> u did ubunttu and don't u know what this error is?
[06:20] <iCod> sethk, how...
[06:20] <feross> Geoffrey2: oh yeah, it was already ext3 right.. weird
[06:20] <Jas-Nix> red|rain: are they all pop ?
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, depmod is used to create the database.
[06:20] <red|rain> Jas-Nix: yes they are
[06:20] <Rookie-> !nfs
[06:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, let me look it up ...
[06:20] <edgy> WHY are you so active, you can't read my question like this ;)
[06:20] <wood> w30: maybe you can help me on that .. I did another  mistake apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[06:20] <w30> wood: the French left their language after they left, It was too much to pack everything. The Americans left their helicopters, ha.
[06:20] <Jas-Nix> red|rain: I think you can change it under settings > defaults
[06:20] <Jas-Nix> but I'm not positive
[06:20] <iCod> sethk, thank you
[06:21] <red|rain> Jas-Nix: ok i'll take a look at that
[06:21] <wood> w30: lol heheheh
[06:21] <sethk> iCod, you run depmod with one or more module names.
[06:21] <junmin> feross, administration. cause i would like to run a web hosting business.....
[06:21] <sethk> iCod, can you list the modules in use with lsmod?
[06:21] <Tokenbad> whats the best way to handle img files in ubuntu?
[06:21] <feross> soheil: I'm not an Ubuntu developer. I'm just a regular guy that used linux for a couple of years so now I help out when I can and so is the rest of the people here.
[06:21] <wood> w30 : i dont know where to change the server name
[06:21] <iCod> ok
[06:21] <wood> w30 oupss i mean the domain name
[06:21] <MaxL> Will the ATI Radeon X1300 Pro AGP 256MB Video Card run in Ubuntu?
[06:21] <Armstrong80> Im having some trouble with Google Video (flash) I can play the video but there is no sound. I have another friend using ubuntu and he is able to hear the audio, anyone run into this before?
[06:22] <red|rain> Jas-Nix: nothing :(
[06:22] <brian98> briguyd,  should do!
[06:22] <iCod> sethk, how do you want me to give you the list?
[06:22] <MaxL> Armstrong80 what version of ubuntu ya usin?
[06:22] <feross> junmin: go to howtoforge.com and look up ISP Ubuntu server. It's a good tutorial.
[06:22] <sethk> soheil, what are you running when you get that relocation error?
[06:22] <plus_M> So I am having some trouble installing my nvidia video cards driver on Xubuntu, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[06:22] <w30> wood: the server name will be in a config file somewhere. try man apache.conf? just a guess
[06:22] <Armstrong80> MaxL: 6.06
[06:22] <Parabola> man i cant remove half the crap that ubunut comes with, without it trying to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <soheil> So why it's the official forum for ubuntu then?
[06:22] <Tokenbad> Armstrong80, have you tried this:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[06:22] <Parabola> is there a way to fix that?
[06:23] <sethk> iCod, don't give it to me, use it.  I'll tell you how ...
[06:23] <lba> sethk, Could you please give me the dd command to save MBR again.  It scrolled off and, since I updated Xchat, it wasn't logging.
[06:23] <wood> w30 ok thanks i ll look
[06:23] <iCod> sethk, thank you, I'm ready
[06:23] <jtholmes> wood believe it comes from  /etc/hosts
[06:23] <sethk> lba, dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
[06:23] <MaxL> Armstrong80:  Odd... I noticed in that in Breezy Badger, the sound can only be occpuied by one application at once, I'm on Dapper Drake now, sometimes just restarting the browswer works.
[06:23] <lba> sethk, Thanks vm.
[06:23] <soheil> sethk:I'm running ls
[06:23] <sethk> iCod, do lsmod > create-modules-database
[06:23] <sethk> iCod, that's just an arbitrary file name
[06:23] <junmin> feross, thanks will go to see
[06:24] <sethk> iCod, edit that file, and add to the beginning of each line     depmod
[06:24] <Parabola> better yet
[06:24] <sethk> iCod, then chmod +x create-modules-database
[06:24] <plus_M> uh am I still connected?
[06:24] <Parabola> is there a way to remove packages via apt without it removing its dependencies?
[06:24] <soheil> u see:soheil@ubuntu:~$ ls
[06:24] <soheil> ls: relocation error: ls: symbol opendmr, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:24] <sethk> then delete the current database, and run that file.
[06:24] <Armstrong80> MaxL: Ill try restarting the browser, thanks.
[06:24] <iCod> sethk, edit what file?
[06:24] <MaxL> Armstrong80:  No prob.
[06:24] <plus_M> Can someone help me troubleshoot the installation of this nvidia video card driver?
[06:24] <sethk> iCod, the one you create by doing     lsmod > create-modules-database
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, you'll also have to edit out everything on each line after the module name
[06:25] <MaxL> Anyone know if the ATI Radeon X1300 Pro 256MB will run in Ubuntu?
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, the idea is to delete your database, and then run depmod for each module that you need.
[06:25] <iCod> ok
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, wait, there's a much smarter way
[06:25] <kitche> soheil: yeah that is very bad since it killed your system probably a glibc problem or a readline I figure since it happen to me while installing both of those packages at different times
[06:25] <briguyd> MaxL, define "run"
[06:25] <iCod> eh? that would be great
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, sorry, that was dumb, there's a way to recreate it from /etc/modules.
[06:26] <iCod> yes sir
[06:26] <MaxL> briguyd: like, work and play games, I'm planning on buying a new video card and just double checking to see if it will run in ubuntu
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, depmod with no arguments
[06:27] <iCod> sethk, ok
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, the database is named modules.dep
[06:27] <soheil> what to do then?
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, and lives in /lib/modules/kernel-version
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, where kernel-version is the output of   uname -r
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, for example /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep
[06:28] <iCod> ok
[06:28] <briguyd> MaxL, i'm sure it'll work on some level, but ATI isnt the best with their linux drivers
[06:28] <soheil> kitche:what to do then?
[06:28] <briguyd> lemme check on that card
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, you want to rename that file (I would copy it somewhere first and then rename it)
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, then run depmod
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, then make sure that you have a nice new modules.dep
[06:28] <Armstrong80> MaxL: restarting the browser didnt work, Ive installed flashplugin-nonfree is that the proper one?
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, then hopefully modprobe will be able to run normally
[06:29] <sethk> iCod, no guarantees, but it has a good chance of working
[06:29] <iCod> ok
[06:29] <MaxL> Armstrong80:  Not sure, that's how I got it to work usually.
[06:29] <iCod> which folder will it be in?
[06:29] <iCod> kernel number?
[06:29] <MaxL> briguyd: Yeah that's what I heard... So it's not worth it to buy an ATI card though?
[06:29] <iCod> never mind
[06:29] <Tokenbad> how handle .img files in ubuntu?
[06:29] <briguyd> MaxL, looks like its technically supported
[06:30] <sethk> iCod, /lib/modules/XXXXXXXXXXXX where XXXXXXXXXXXX is the output of   uname -r
[06:30] <briguyd> MaxL, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MzU4
[06:30] <iCod> sethk, I'm almost done
[06:30] <sethk> MaxL, if you are buying, nvidia is probably a better choice.
[06:30] <MaxL> briguyd: Problem is I'm a gamer, I actually want to use the card for what it's meant for.
[06:30] <MaxL> sethk: yeah the NVIDIA's are harder to find the ATI x.x;
[06:31] <briguyd> MaxL, i always preferred nvidia, because so many rendering companies use linux with nvidia, they have to release good linux drivers
[06:31] <briguyd> ati doesnt have that issue, so they do it solely for the consumer
[06:31] <briguyd> and theres less pressure to do that
[06:31] <MaxL> briguyd: YEah I heard that. :/ ATI are usualyl alot cheaper too.
[06:32] <sethk> MaxL, I've got a couple of ATIs that you can have for free  :)
[06:32] <shriphani> 0000:00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[06:32] <shriphani> whhch card is that ?
[06:32] <Parabola> ATI's are pointless to buy until the R650's come out
[06:32] <MaxL> sethk: Lol, I'm trying to get a new card for this compy I'm building a computer I'm trying to use for computer.
[06:32] <shriphani> sethk, gimme yer ati
[06:32] <MaxL> trying to use for gaming*
[06:32] <briguyd> shriphani, its integrated into your motherboard
[06:33] <sethk> shriphani, it's PCI and has 8mb memory  :)
[06:33] <shriphani> heh sethk
[06:33] <MaxL> briguyd: :/ My onboard video blows.
[06:33] <briguyd> sethk, i got a few of those
[06:33] <MaxL> briguyd: Has trouble running screensavers.
[06:33] <sethk> briguyd, :)
[06:33] <briguyd> sethk, and a voodoo3
[06:33] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[06:33] <shriphani> sethk, you really doing ati charity ?
[06:33] <sethk> briguyd, any all-in-wonders?
[06:33] <briguyd> which is currently running on another machine
[06:33] <briguyd> sethk, nope
[06:34] <shriphani> sethk, ?
[06:34] <sethk> briguyd, the "wonder" was "I wonder what I was thinking when I bought this POS"  :)
[06:34] <iCod> sethk, thank you, modprobe is down about 10-20% cpu now
[06:34] <sethk> shriphani, I hadn't thought about it, actually, but if you really have some use for them, sure.
[06:34] <iCod> it did something
[06:34] <sethk> iCod, hey, excellent.  :)
[06:34] <briguyd> haha
[06:34] <shriphani> cool send them here
[06:34] <MaxL> Man shopping for video cards on a budget is such a pain.
[06:35] <sethk> iCod, that's still too high, but we're on the right track,, it seems.
[06:35] <iCod> very
[06:35] <VCF> If any of you see iLLf8d, tell him thanks again, and tell him I got it to work, the answer was on the sshfs site itself =), night people !!!
[06:35] <w30> MaxL: check this url out:http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34774
[06:35] <iCod> sethk, maybe a restart will fix it all
[06:35] <sethk> iCod, worth a try, definitely.
[06:36] <shriphani> sethk, free shipping as well ?
[06:37] <iCod> how can I cut down on xorg's cpu usage?
[06:38] <brian98> w30, They still suck :)
[06:39] <Asc> iCod: are you doing anything that would incur high CPU usage?
[06:39] <iCod> no
[06:39] <iCod> firefox and gaim
[06:39] <w30> brian98: I have a Nvidia Gforce myself, it's a pain because of the reinstalling for every kernel.
[06:40] <iCod> sethk, bad news, modprobe hit 60% just now
[06:40] <Armstrong80> Has anyone had any problems with audio and flash?
[06:40] <brian98> w30,  I changed from ati to nvidia because the drivers are better lol
[06:40] <cpk1> trying to mount an iso i made from a .mdf but mount is giving me "mount: not a directory"
[06:40] <brian98> Armstrong80, lots of people
[06:40] <Asc> iCod: shouldn't be too high even if you're on old hardware.  14% or so when not rendering a page maybe
[06:40] <brian98> Armstrong80, once sec
[06:40] <w30> brian98: propriatary drivers are not good but what can you do?
[06:41] <iCod> asc, its ok now, I just realized I had the flashy last.fm page up
[06:41] <brian98> Armstrong80, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[06:41] <brian98> Armstrong80, google really is your friend
[06:41] <Asc> iCod: unless you're using the task manager that comes with gnome.  That thing eats CPU like those neat little rice crackers.
[06:41] <mipstien> can you uninstall a kernel completely without it uninstalling nvidia and such?
[06:41] <brian98> and so are we!
[06:41] <Armstrong80> brian98: thank you, I had looked but not hard enough apparently. Regards.
[06:41] <Asc> iCod: Ah.  Yeah.
[06:41] <brian98> Armstrong80, No worries man!
[06:41] <iCod> Asc, yeah
[06:42] <iCod> Asc, could you check your processes and see if you have modprobe running?
[06:42] <Asc> No, I don't seem to
[06:42] <brian98> w30 buy a propietary card
[06:42] <brian98> lol
[06:43] <iCod> darn
[06:43] <brian98> propriatary even
[06:43] <iCod> Asc, I have this great problem where modprobe seems to be stuck in a loop. Its running at 60% cpu almost all the time.
[06:44] <Aven> hey, anyone use gftp?
[06:44] <Asc> iCod: Can't help you much there, I've never used modprobe.
[06:45] <mipstien> I am running an AMD processor and would like to go back to my K7 kernel but it has somehow crashed, i am in my older but updated 386 kernel now, is there anyway to uninstall the k7 kernel without losing nvidia drivers?
[06:45] <Tokenbad> how handle .img files in ubuntu?
[06:47] <brian98> bye all!
[06:48] <mipstien> i have old kernel's installed but apt doesn't show them, is there a way to make apt see them as installed?
[06:49] <reanimation> hi
[06:49] <briguyd> hello
[06:50] <mipstien> hi!
[06:50] <wood> Hi ! Any of you know what is the problem when I type my address http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ it doesn't want to show me any defauld apache2 file ? I have install the phpmyadmin and cant have access to the phpmyadmin welcome web page .. why ?
[06:51] <mipstien> wood: im not sure but normally the 1.1 is saved for your router? what router are you using?
[06:52] <briguyd> wood, try ifocnfig in the console and make sure your IP is the same there as you think it is
[06:52] <briguyd> ifconfig *
[06:52] <YorikNMe> localhost doesnt work either?
[06:52] <wood> mipstien: the address is not the real one . and dont worry for the ip .. I know that part
[06:52] <Armstrong80> brian98: I have executed the commands that were on that page, still no sound. Ive gone to the link he posted but am having some trouble deciphering it.
[06:52] <briguyd> wood, whats in your /var/www ?
[06:52] <mipstien> i have old kernel's installed but apt doesn't show them, is there a way to make apt see them as installed?
[06:53] <wood> briguyd: default file .. never touch that directory
[06:53] <briguyd> isnt that where apache looks for the webserver?
[06:53] <w30> wood: does it show you a folder? If so that's because there is no file called index.html in the root directory.
[06:53] <briguyd> or did you change the default?
[06:53] <cpk1> need help mounting an .iso got this error "mount: not a directory"
[06:54] <briguyd> cpk1, did you specify a mountpoint to mount it  to?
[06:54] <eylisian> cpk1:what command do you issue to get this riddle?
[06:54] <cpk1> briguyd: i did /mnt
[06:54] <wood> there is a html and also a htm file in there and the server want me to download a phtml file instead of showing me the .html file i have in this directory
[06:54] <cpk1> eylisian: mount
[06:54] <briguyd> cpk1, post the exact command you used
[06:54] <Parabola> whats the default location for the burning software to place disc images ?
[06:55] <w30> wood: Is it named index.html?
[06:55] <eylisian> cpk1:what is your mount point? ubuntu defaults to /media
[06:55] <w30> wood: if not rename it index.html
[06:55] <cpk1> i did sudo mount /iso /mnt -o loop
[06:55] <wood> w30: ill retry to put a index.html file again with normal permission
[06:56] <briguyd> cpk1, what is "/iso"?
[06:56] <en1gma> hey all im following this guide "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto" and it wants me to do a "apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" but its not working
[06:56] <w30> wood: if you want to load a different html file you have to change apache config
[06:56] <cpk1> /home/cpk1/nameof.iso
[06:56] <en1gma> what is the correct syntax for that today
[06:56] <cpk1> i shortened it
[06:56] <Aven> anyone use gftp
[06:56] <briguyd> cpk1, i dont thin /mnt exists
[06:57] <w30> wood: just rename it index.html
[06:57] <briguyd> try making a directory in /media to mount the iso to
[06:57] <wood> w30 ok problem found
[06:57] <eylisian> cpk1: and the -o arg is in the wrong place.
[06:57] <briguyd> then replace /mnt with whatever you just created
[06:57] <briguyd> and the -o is in the wrong place, yeah
[06:57] <en1gma> what was "ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" is now what "     "
[06:57] <mipstien> !apt
[06:57] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:57] <en1gma> what was "ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" is now what "     "
[06:58] <eylisian> cpk1: briguyd speaks good sense.
[06:58] <wood> w30 : the index.html file was not there because an error of transfer file from the ssh secure shell
[06:58] <cpk1> i have a /mnt dir...
[06:58] <briguyd> eylisian, thats a first
[06:58] <wood> w30: it's my fault.. but thanks a lot !
[06:58] <en1gma> come on
[06:58] <en1gma> jesus i know this isnt hard for someone who has used ubuntu for a bit
[06:58] <eylisian> briguyd: heh. I understand.
[06:59] <ComputinChuck> i'm trying to use gtkmm (the newest one in the repositories) and when i compile anything including gtkmm.h it says that every header is missing
[06:59] <w30> wood: blame your bifocials, I do and get away with it
[06:59] <briguyd> cpk1, then try mounting to an empty subdirectory of /mnt that you created
[06:59] <ComputinChuck> i have the package installed
[06:59] <wood> thanks guys to help so much !!
[06:59] <feross> en1gma: ubuntu-base is what is installed by default to get a basic working ubuntu install without anything else.
[06:59] <en1gma> it wont apt-get install it
[06:59] <en1gma> says no package found
[06:59] <en1gma> or soemthing like that
[06:59] <wood> w30: what is bifocials ?
[06:59] <feross> if you have a working ubuntu system it's already installed
[07:00] <en1gma> im installing it to a partition by chrooting
[07:00] <en1gma> it needs to install it
[07:00] <w30> wood: glasses for old men; the top part is for distance the botom part is for close up focus
[07:00] <en1gma> im running live cd
[07:01] <feross> en1gma: ubuntu-desktop is replaced with gnome-desktop, kde-desktop and xfce-desktop or something similar. can't remember off the top of my head
[07:01] <en1gma> ubuntu-base didnt work either
[07:01] <en1gma> are you sure that is still same exact name
[07:01] <feross> en1gma: isn't there an icon on the deskto that says install to disk or something like that
[07:02] <w30> wood: and if you are looking at something in the joint of the two lenses things disappear
[07:02] <en1gma> yea that wont do a chroot install
[07:02] <en1gma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[07:02] <wood> w30: lol ok hehehe
[07:02] <w30> wood: like a sidewalk step, you gotta be careful
[07:02] <en1gma> is there a newer guide avail?
[07:03] <wood> w30 .. yeah.. it is probably because im real tired.. it's been 5 hours im making this litlle server
[07:03] <en1gma> feross can you help me with this you think
[07:04] <en1gma> i just want to instal
[07:04] <en1gma> nothing that should be complicated
[07:04] <en1gma> but its being kind of a bugger
[07:04] <skt|din_din> I've spent the last 3 days trying to figure Ubuntu out, if it makes you feel better wood.
[07:04] <w30> wood: I have done many an all nighter on Linux, but it's fun
[07:04] <en1gma> ive spent the last 10days trying to install any linux
[07:04] <mipstien> where is grub.lst located?
[07:04] <en1gma> i think ubuntu can do it
[07:04] <skt|din_din> Why hasn't it worked?
[07:05] <en1gma> raid0 stripe
[07:05] <feross> en1gma: what are you trying to do exactly and why?
[07:05] <en1gma> one more time
[07:05] <en1gma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[07:05] <jtholmes> mipstien: usually in  /boot/grub
[07:05] <skt|din_din> All nighters in Linux = me.
[07:05] <en1gma> im almost done with it i think
[07:05] <w30> /boot/grub/menu1st
[07:05] <en1gma> i got a couple lines that didnt take well
[07:05] <skt|din_din> Especially since I screwed up firefox and my home menu and couldn't get to either.
[07:05] <en1gma> apt-get install linux-k7
[07:05] <en1gma> apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop #the download may take a while, about 500 MB. But you'll have an up2date system :)
[07:06] <en1gma> those 2 lines
[07:06] <mipstien> jtholmes: i can't find it :\
[07:06] <wood> w30 : this is fun to do !! :P ok see you later ! !bye bye and thanks a lot helping me !
[07:06] <wood> bye bye all !!
[07:06] <skt|din_din> I'm still trying to figure out how to create a launcher for Nicotine+ XD
[07:06] <jtholmes> mipstien: do you have /boot
[07:06] <myesterious> When add JP layout key , Why cannot I press Left(Alt+Shift) for switch group (But can press Right(Alt+Shift) )?
[07:06] <ebzero> Hey im new to Ubuntu and all i was just wondering can anyone help me with a problem ive been having with vs 6.06?
[07:06] <en1gma> 'apt-get install linux-k7' now = 'apt-get install linux-generix'
[07:06] <mipstien> jtholmes nevermind, its called menu.lst... i just had a brain fart :P
[07:06] <en1gma> but that last line isnt working
[07:06] <Somniis> we can certainly try, ebzero
[07:07] <kamui> curious who has a real fast consumer grade connection, what speed is it?
[07:07] <cherubiel> !ask
[07:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:07] <en1gma> ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop
[07:07] <skt|din_din> so sethk was telling me that my home slash skt slash menu isn't my real menu.
[07:07] <ebzero> Ok well when i run my disk i click install and it runs fine untill it gets to somthing abuot hardware check then says RNG not detected then a bunch of stuff scrolls really quickly to fast to read
[07:07] <skt|din_din> And I just about died.
[07:07] <en1gma> when im using "apt-get install" what or where is a site that i can see whats avail for it
[07:08] <Flannel> en1gma: "apt-cache search [term] " or, packages.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <ArrenLex> en1gma: "apt-cache search" or packages.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <ArrenLex> XD
[07:08] <en1gma> thnx 1 sec
[07:08] <ArrenLex> Damn you, flannel!
[07:08] <Flannel> ArrenLex: heh, I had that, but then went back and added in [term]  ;)
[07:08] <baconbacon> en1gma, you can use synaptic also
[07:08] <cpk1> maybe I am having a problem mounting the .iso because i created it from a .mdf?
[07:09] <en1gma> this is a chroot install so i dont know if i an
[07:09] <en1gma> can*
[07:10] <w30> cpk1: what's a .mdf?
[07:10] <jtholmes> cpk1: sorry what is an  .mdf
[07:10] <ebzero> Anyone know how to fix RNG problems?? :-/
[07:10] <Somniis> it's an image file
[07:10] <cpk1> some thing that windows can mount like an image
[07:10] <Somniis> tons of them, lol
[07:11] <jtholmes> cpk1: ok, i assumed that, is it a linux/unix type
[07:11] <skt|din_din> is slash home slash skt slash whatever my real directory?
[07:12] <cherubiel> ebzero: any hotswappable devices?? usb etc ?
[07:12] <cpk1> dont think so, i got mdf2iso to make it an iso, i read some forum post saying that you couldnt mount .mdf or .mds
[07:12] <feross> en1gma: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153760  did you read that post?
[07:12] <skt|din_din> Because sethk thought I was lying to him, and acted like I was crazy.
[07:12] <jtholmes> cpk1:  run file  *.iso and see what it tells you
[07:12] <ebzero> bah im getting a error when its doing a hard ware check on the disk when i attempt to install anyone have any ideas it says RNG (random number generator) not detected a bunch of stuff scrolls down quickly and ends with "not synching correctly fatal" Im attempting to install Unbuntu  6.06 I386...
[07:12] <cherubiel> ebzero: how far does the installer go? what stage did you reach? where is this getting stuck? wat do you se onth screen
[07:12] <en1gma> i think "apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" is now "apt-get install gnome" does that sound correct
[07:12] <baconbacon> RNG not detected is not a problem
[07:13] <ebzero> but then it just freezes there and dosnt do anything :-/
[07:13] <cpk1> err how do you run an iso?
[07:13] <Somniis> you can mount it with daemon tools or alcohol 120%.. not sure if those run on linux
[07:14] <baconbacon> there is 2 commands for mounting an iso as a cd
[07:14] <medic30420> ebzero, this sounds like ubuntu is just telling you that your CPU doesn't have a rng, very normal, the syncing message sounds like a display adapter issue
[07:14] <en1gma> mount isofs
[07:14] <en1gma> -9660
[07:14] <medic30420> ebzero, what are the specs on your machine?
[07:14] <cherubiel> ebzero: h/w
[07:14] <cherubiel> ?
[07:14] <baconbacon> cpk1, usually i do something like losetup /dev/loop/0 ~/myiso, then mount -t iso9660 /dev/loop0 /mountpoint
[07:15] <feross> en1gma: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto  looked at this one?
[07:15] <cpk1> mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/foo.iso /mnt gives me "mount: not a directory"
[07:15] <Somniis> cpk1: you can also burn the iso to a cd and do it that way
[07:15] <jtholmes> cpk1  just  execute   'file  *iso'  and see what  the file command tells you the file type is
[07:15] <ebzero> I've got a pos :D its a COpaw presario 80 gig, 256 ram intel celeron processor with a ati radion 9250 Graphics card
[07:15] <Netslayer> trying to run gksu "update-manager -c -d" but it's failing with ubuntu-desktop, so i installed ubuntu-desktop and it's still failing..any ideas?
[07:15] <jtholmes> cpk1:  *iso is you iso file name
[07:15] <ebzero> Compaq*
[07:16] <cpk1> it says iso 9660
[07:16] <ChrisBradley> somebody call me here earlier?
[07:16] <medic30420> ebzero, how old is it?
[07:16] <ebzero> err i think 3-4 years
[07:16] <LookTJ> Hi
[07:16] <medic30420> ebzero, are you trying to do a clean install?
[07:17] <LookTJ> How do i make the timer stop when grub boots?
[07:17] <ebzero> I think so lol im not to sure what a "Clean Install" is :-/
[07:17] <jtholmes> cpk1:  then  try   mount  -o loop -t iso9660  *isofile  /mnt    and see what it does
[07:17] <en1gma> feross its not just sata its raid
[07:17] <en1gma> wait 1 sec
[07:17] <en1gma> lemme look at that
[07:18] <medic30420> ebzero, are you installing ubuntu for the first time, and not leaving any other operating systems (winxp, etc) on the machine?
[07:18] <cpk1> jtholmes: gives me "mount: not a directory"
[07:18] <ebzero> Yeah
[07:18] <jtholmes> cpk1  of course  *isofile  is   /path/path2/isofile
[07:18] <baconbacon> LookTJ press esc or move in the menu
[07:18] <LookTJ> How i make the timer stop when the grub menu shows up at bootup
[07:18] <cpk1> yup
[07:18] <medic30420> ebzero, ok, do this, download the alternate install cd
[07:18] <baconbacon> LookTJ, do you want to disable the timer?
[07:18] <Flannel> LookTJ: you mean to stop it from automatically continuing?
[07:18] <en1gma> feross i hate you!
[07:18] <en1gma> :)
[07:18] <LookTJ> yep
[07:18] <feross> ;)
[07:18] <en1gma> yea that looks like a good one
[07:18] <ebzero> Is that file also 659mb :-(
[07:19] <jtholmes> cpk1 interesting  give me a minute let me look at my notes
[07:19] <en1gma> ok i got to restart this mess all over
[07:19] <en1gma> but that one looks even easier
[07:19] <LookTJ> remove timeout		3?
[07:19] <medic30420> ebzero, this is a text based install, i do not think your computer has enough memory to run the live CD & install it
[07:19] <baconbacon> jtholmes, look in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst, there is a timeout directive
[07:19] <baconbacon> put 0 beside it instead of 3 or 4
[07:19] <jtholmes> cpk1  i am  running  6.10 live on top of my  suse and have to mount some slices
[07:19] <ebzero> So whats the differnce with the Alternate?
[07:19] <LookTJ> thanks bacon
[07:19] <LookTJ> :D
[07:19] <medic30420> ebzero, i ran into a similar issue with a dell that is 4 years old
[07:20] <baconbacon> jtholmes, i meant LookTJ
[07:20] <en1gma> bbiab
[07:20] <en1gma> got to redo alot of stuff
[07:20] <Somniis> ebzero: it is text-based, and ran on bootup :-)
[07:20] <feross> k
[07:20] <poptones> hello.. can anyone tell me how to make beagle in dapper index mp3 files?
[07:20] <ebzero> Does it have the same applications at the desktop?
[07:20] <medic30420> ebzero, basically the text install uses less memory, (unless you have at least 512MB of RAM you need the alternate install)
[07:21] <cpk1> jtholmes: i think i might have found something, it is trying to loop with /dev/loop0 which i dont have, should I go ahead and make it?
[07:21] <baconbacon> cpk1, usually i do something like losetup /dev/loop/0 ~/myiso, then mount -t iso9660 /dev/loop0 /mountpoint
[07:21] <medic30420> ebzero, after install everything is the exact same as the regular desktop cd
[07:21] <baconbacon> i said that already :)
[07:21] <medic30420> ebzero, just choose the first option when the CD boots
[07:21] <cpk1> what does losetup do?
[07:21] <ebzero> Alright thanks a ton Medic ill go give it a try right now :)
[07:22] <baconbacon> setup a loopback device
[07:23] <jtholmes> cpk1 setup, deletes, lists, creates you loop devices
[07:23] <dura> why is it trying to remove wireless-tools makes apt also want to remove _base packages?
[07:23] <jtholmes> cpk1  please send me the command you used to mount
[07:24] <david__> how do i change extension associations?
[07:24] <jtholmes> cpk1 because what I sent you should work
[07:24] <cpk1> hang on let me identify
[07:25] <feross> david__: right click on a file and open with.. then it will default to whatever you tell it.
[07:26] <S1NGH> anyone know if they can help with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25272/
[07:26] <Geoffrey2> well, let's hope I don't have to do this again in the near future.... :/
[07:27] <THX-1138> Hi I need a little help from the command line to create a  playlist of everything that isn't *wma.
[07:27] <poptones> how do i get beagle to index mp3 files?
[07:27] <feross> hey Geoffrey2 ... ohh well, that is weird tho.
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: apt-get remove compiz-core before you run that command.
[07:28] <Geoffrey2> now, what is the site where I can generate the repository information?
[07:29] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, um, what command?
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: before you apt-get install compiz-vanilla-aiglx compiz-vanilla compiz-vanilla-gnome, apt-get remove compiz-core
[07:29] <LookTJ> My other question, what command do i put to install w32 codecs?
[07:30] <ArrenLex> !w32codecs
[07:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, I think you have the wrong person, I have not a clue what compiz even is. :)
[07:30] <baconbacon> LookTJ: you put easyubuntu in google :)
[07:30] <ArrenLex> So I do. x
[07:30] <ArrenLex> D
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2 -> s1ngh
[07:30] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, no problem :)
[07:30] <LookTJ> i don't want easyubuntu nor automatrix
[07:31] <THX-1138> Maybe i can ask my question this way. Is find the best tool for recursing directories and piping to a text file?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> LookTJ: then find a repository for them on apt-get.org or else download the tarball from the mplayer official site and extract it to /usr/lib/win32
[07:31] <baconbacon> LookTJ : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[07:31] <feross> THX-1138: yes
[07:31] <Geoffrey2> there's a website I can use to generate the source information for package manager updates, to make sure I have all the sources I need enabled...can anyone tell me where that website is?
[07:31] <LookTJ> thanks i'
[07:32] <LookTJ> ll read that
[07:32] <cpk2> !sourceomatic
[07:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:32] <cpk2> Geoffrey2: go there
[07:32] <LookTJ> bacon put in source.list?
[07:33] <Geoffrey2> oh, if I want to play restricted format media, I need totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer, right?
[07:34] <LookTJ> where the source.list
[07:34] <THX-1138> feross - Thank You so very much. - I am still a bit unfamiliar with the many choices available.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> LookTJ: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:34] <LookTJ> thanks again
[07:34] <feross> Geoffrey2: did you want this one http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=564
[07:35] <progek> does anyone know if I can ever get 3ddesktop working with an intergrated SiS?
[07:35] <feross> THX-1138: you can do a 'find / -name *.wma -print > mylist.txt'
[07:36] <radar1976> ..
[07:36] <radar1976> can anyone see this?
[07:36] <feross> yeah
[07:36] <radar1976> ok, I forgot my nickserv pass ...wasn't sure if i could post to the channel
[07:37] <feross> poptones: hey figure out that beagle problem?
[07:37] <rescind> Anyone know how to access a newly partitioned fat32 hard drive
[07:37] <radar1976> ahh figured it out..
[07:37] <radar1976> hehe
[07:37] <poptones> feross: nope, thx for asking.
[07:37] <radar1976> question... I'm trying to get synaptics to work on my PB G4.... but I keep getting an error
[07:38] <poptones> everything i find seems to point to "it should jsut work."
[07:38] <THX-1138> feross - Eek! - no, i never want to find *.wma files the should be munged and then milspec erased to never be heard again. or at least rtranscoded into a civil format. - i need to exclude them and find the good stuff.
[07:38] <feross> poptones: I installed beagle because it was in a howto :) but never used it.. Unless it's integrated with the panel search tool thing..
[07:38] <poptones> beagle is mad handy, but it doesnt index anything about my mp3s except the folder name
[07:39] <radar1976> Query no Synaptics: 6003C8
[07:39] <radar1976> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[07:39] <radar1976> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
[07:39] <radar1976> (
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> feross, is the file I need to modify in etc?
[07:39] <radar1976> I have been reading lots of docs but still no luck
[07:39] <radar1976> any ideas?
[07:39] <feross> Geoffrey2: for sources.list? its  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <THX-1138> feross - Yuo are one very generous individual to stop by and answer so many queries. - mad props to you.
[07:40] <ArrenLex> radar: I assume you... have a synaptics touchpad and it isn't recognised?
[07:40] <radar1976> well I was under the impress that the appletouch would work with the synaptics driver... ? yes/no?
[07:41] <feross> THX-1138: no prob..
[07:41] <ArrenLex> http://www.popies.net/atp/
[07:41] <ArrenLex> I'm under the impression that it just uses the synaptics name and you actually need to install a separate driver.
[07:41] <THX-1138> Open Source infinite confiureability feel the power of open source baby!   Bash scripting guide here i come!
[07:42] <feross> radar1976: I'm not sure about the Synaptic pad problem. I'm on a lappy currently and it 'just works' *shrug*
[07:42] <ArrenLex> radar: actually, that driver's in the kernel already. You should already have it.
[07:42] <THX-1138> feross - Was that a little over the top? - lol
[07:42] <ArrenLex> radar: what does your xorg.conf look like? Pastebin it.
[07:42] <radar1976> feross  it is the same here but I want scrolling
[07:43] <LookTJ> thanks for telling me the repos site again for w32codecs - baconbacon
[07:43] <feross> THX-1138: nahh.. bash ROX!!! but so does perl :)
[07:43] <ArrenLex> I don't think I'll ever understand exactly how bash handles whitespace and why. As long as you don't have to work with anything containing any special characters, ever, bash is great.
[07:43] <ArrenLex> I write a blender farm with bash.
[07:44] <ArrenLex> write -> wrote
[07:44] <ArrenLex> It was awesome. Combined multiple OS's and everything.
[07:44] <J-_> !bash
[07:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde).  Like wine directory names.
[07:45] <radar1976> waiting for pastebin
[07:46] <ArrenLex> radar: if the ubuntu one doesn't work, feel free to use http://pastebin.ca/
[07:46] <radar1976> bahh  somehow that paste is corrupting the php headers!!!
[07:46] <dayvan_cowboy> hi fellas!
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> lolz
[07:46] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[07:46] <dayvan_cowboy> UBUNTU kicks ass!
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> radar1976, which pastebin are you using
[07:47] <radar1976> http://pastebin.com/797153
[07:47] <radar1976> I will try .ca
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> never use pastebin.com, it sucksorz
[07:47] <dayvan_cowboy> I just cannot find if it takes advantage of my 2 old P3 CPUs
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> I use rafb
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Christ, it IS down. *wait*
[07:47] <eylisian> dayvan_cowboy: some enthusiasim =)
[07:47] <dayvan_cowboy> does it support dual CPUs? I know it's a stupid question
[07:48] <eylisian> dayvan_cowboy: yes.
[07:48] <BHSPitLappy> dayvan_cowboy, look in sysinfo
[07:48] <ArrenLex> dayvan: look for a -smp kernel?
[07:48] <radar1976> I see that pastebin.com is crap!
[07:48] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/186600
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Yay.
[07:48] <dayvan_cowboy> It's really the professional linux I've been looking for
[07:48] <radar1976> ArrenLex I took it down!!!
[07:48] <dayvan_cowboy> great job guys
[07:49] <dayvan_cowboy> I feel sorry for bill gates
[07:49] <dayvan_cowboy> :))
[07:49] <Geoffrey2> can totem-gstreamer play restricted media formats like .wmv?
[07:49] <Geoffrey2> or do I need totem-xine for that?
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> why don't you try and see.
[07:51] <ArrenLex> radar: try commenting out the synaptics block and replacing it with the block given at http://www.popies.net/atp/ ; it can't hurt.
[07:51] <dayvan_cowboy> yo where's sysinfo?
[07:51] <w30> ArrenLex: I have to paste with bash win I get to those vfat file names with the spaces and the slashes because when it gets like /\ /\\ I get lost :=)
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> dayvan_cowboy, you have to install it.
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[07:51] <dayvan_cowboy> gracias
[07:52] <dayvan_cowboy> also I couldn't install wine
[07:52] <dayvan_cowboy> I will try it again
[07:52] <radar1976> ArrenLex k  hold on
[07:52] <dayvan_cowboy> I think it should come with wine
[07:52] <feross> Geoffrey2: hold a sec I got a link for you
[07:52] <porkpie> Morning guys,  I am trying to build a ubuntu server with an 8gb / patition.  I have 146GB hard drive installed but I cannot seem to set the patition to 8GB ...I also want to use ext2 not 3.  The server is going to be running xen
[07:53] <Geoffrey2> okie doke
[07:53] <dayvan_cowboy> E: Couldn't find package sysinfo
[07:53] <dayvan_cowboy> ooppps
[07:53] <en1gma> feross
[07:54] <en1gma> where did that web page go on the sata_raid_howot
[07:54] <en1gma> did you take it down
[07:54] <Flannel> porkpie: ext3 is default in ubuntu, just.. whatever partitioner you want should be fine
[07:54] <feross> Geoffrey2: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235  edit your sources like it has here then go down to the part about viewing restricted formats unless you want to do any of the other stuff
[07:54] <radar1976> ArrenLex same error
[07:55] <dayvan_cowboy> SUPER COW POWERS! MOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:55] <Sktfeelsdapper> wtf?
[07:55] <ArrenLex> radar: does dmesg | grep -i synap give any insight?
[07:55] <feross> en1gma: hmm I'm still getting it http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto
[07:55] <porkpie> Flannel:this is a fresh install but I can seem to change the partition size ....I want to run LVM as well.
[07:56] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/186602
[07:56] <porkpie> Flannel:it's also running hardware raid 1
[07:56] <blazemonger> I love Ubuntu
[07:56] <shriphani> dayvan_cowboy, did you run aptitude with some trash argument
[07:56] <blazemonger> Ubuntu is going to save the planet
[07:56] <dayvan_cowboy> love she is mine!
[07:56] <radar1976> root@powerbook:/var/log#  dmesg | grep -i synap
[07:56] <radar1976> root@powerbook:/var/log#
[07:56] <radar1976> nothing
[07:56] <en1gma> thnx
[07:56] <dayvan_cowboy> ubuntu is my sexy foxy moma!
[07:56] <feross> porkpie: hmm are the partitions you're trying to resize mounted?
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> yeah... we heard you the first time, dayvan_cowboy
[07:57] <blazemonger> i will say there are some games in the apt sources that crash
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> but she doesn't wanna give me sysinfo with apt-get
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> there is no such a package
[07:57] <blazemonger> but everything else is pretty stable
[07:57] <porkpie> feross:it's at the install stage
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> yes
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> very robost
[07:57] <ArrenLex> radar: that is so weird.  It... doesn't exist.
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> a little slow
[07:57] <w30>  Bill Clinton loves ubuntu also.
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> but it's good!
[07:57] <Flannel> porkpie: you want the alternate ISO for LVM
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> :))
[07:57] <ArrenLex> radar: and modprobe -v appletouch ?
[07:57] <Flannel> !tell porkpie about LVM
[07:57] <blazemonger> w30: Bill Clinton uses Ubuntu?!?!?!
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> how about bill gates?
[07:57] <Flannel> porkpie: there are ways to do it afterwards, that link should explain it, I believe
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> get out of here
[07:57] <blazemonger> Anyone that endorses Ubuntu is worthy of being president hehe
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Bill Clinton totally didn't take down Osama when he had the chance! He is a bad man. :O
[07:58] <radar1976> ArrenLex root@powerbook:/var/log# modprobe -v appletouch
[07:58] <radar1976> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/kernel/drivers/usb/input/appletouch.ko
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Unlike Bush, who totally took down Osama.
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> I approved this linux distro!
[07:58] <porkpie> Flannel:where do I get the LVM iso from
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> osama cannot use ubuntu
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> lol
[07:58] <Flannel> porkpie: the alternate ISO? same place you got the server/desktop/whatever
[07:58] <blazemonger> i thought our military and intelligence took down 0sama
[07:58] <ArrenLex> I bet Osama uses SuSE.
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> he spends his time with his goats
[07:58] <porkpie> Flannel:I missed the link
[07:58] <w30> blazemonger: nah, he just discovered the concept ubuntu and used it in a news appearance
[07:58] <feross> don't get me started on politics.. grrr
[07:59] <blazemonger> oh okay
[07:59] <ArrenLex> radar: so I take it... no errors?