[08:21] <ara> tonyyaruso: no it doesn't work my friend
[08:21] <Sturgeon> QMario: It will happen something.
[08:21] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn you probably still can't login to gnome yet?
[08:21] <Sturgeon> QMario: It will then have KDE.
[08:21] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: all i can find are .rpms
[08:21] <Motoko-chan> Well, it will probably install.
[08:21] <QMario> Sturgeon, really?
[08:21] <Sturgeon> With high probability, yes.
[08:21] <Goldfisch> Sturgeon: lol
[08:21] <QMario> Sturgeon, but I only installed the kdelibs, will it crash?
[08:21] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey no was able to login using another user accoutn
[08:22] <Sturgeon> QMario: Why would it crash?
[08:22] <humbraro> annibis: looking back at your original question - is it all the directories on the drive that are owned by root?  Those can be changed easily
[08:22] <intelikey> PeteyPablo enable the extended repositories (universe & multiverse)  and find it with apt-cache search <name>
[08:22] <QMario> Strugeon, can GNOME and KDE coexist without problems?
[08:22] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: i have them enabled it doesn't have the one i need
[08:22] <intelikey> !ubotu tell PeteyPablo about repos
[08:22] <Sturgeon> QMario: yes
[08:22] <QMario> Have you done it?
[08:22] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: i have them, it doesnt have the version i need i guess
[08:22] <intelikey> ok
[08:23] <annibis> yes
[08:23] <calamari> is it possible to determine how many inodes I will need to store some files?
[08:23] <ara> tonyyaruso: do i need a reboot?
[08:23] <NoWhereToTurn> intelikey.. thanks again for all the help and sticking with me
[08:23] <Sturgeon> QMario: yes. You'll find info about that in the docs
[08:23] <annibis> the whole drive is owned by root
[08:23] <QMario> Annibis, were you answering me?
[08:23] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn good then you have only to add the new user account to the sudoers file and badabing you're fixed.
[08:23] <annibis> no
[08:23] <humbraro> in that case, "cd /path/to/drive"
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> ara: No.
[08:24] <NoWhereToTurn> account to the sudoers file ??
[08:24] <annibis> woulnt that be cd hdb1/
[08:24] <humbraro> then "sudo chown -R user:group ./*"
[08:25] <humbraro> DO NOT forget to put that leading dot in front of the slash
[08:25] <GnarlyBob> sudo rm -rf / ?
[08:25] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn only if you want the user to be able to use sudo.   not needed on a system that has the root password set really.
[08:25] <annibis> whats the commad to cd to that drive
[08:25] <QMario> Sturgeon, where do I get the KDE Headers from?
[08:25] <GnarlyBob> (by the way, if you haven't figured it out, don't take my advice)
[08:25] <annibis> the path to it
[08:25] <humbraro> well, it depends on where you mounted it
[08:25] <annibis> in dev its hdb1 in mnt its F
[08:25] <Sturgeon> QMario: you can use synaptic to install kde
[08:26] <humbraro> a drive is just a drive, you have to mount a filesystem on the drive somewhere in your system, then go there and change ownership of the files there
[08:26] <intelikey> NoWhereToTurn reason i mentioned it, your user probably can't run synaptic or other system apps.
[08:26] <tritium> GnarlyBob, please don't even joke that way
[08:26] <GnarlyBob> Hey, we used to do exactly such things, and people often followed the advice, in the really old days of #linux
[08:26] <QMario> Sturgeon, will I still be able to use GNOME?
[08:27] <Sturgeon> QMario: YES!
[08:27] <Ferris_B> evening all
[08:27] <QMario> Sturgeon, I can't be too careful. ;)
[08:27] <ara> tonyyaruso: ok i located the j2re file
[08:27] <slim> wpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?
[08:27] <plagerism> Anyone know much about SATA drives?  I am currently finding that burning from my SATA drive to my PATA dvd burner, is slower than when I was burning from my PATA drive to the same dvd burner? Anyone experiencing similar problems?? Or know of a solution?
[08:27] <QMario> Sturgeon, sorry for the hassle. :'(
[08:28] <Ferris_B> I apt-get installed apache2, as well as php5, but when I attempt to view phpinfo.php, apache just sends it to me as a download. Any ideas?
[08:28] <intelikey> QMario you can have ALL the linux desktop/window managers  installed at once.  but only run one at a time.  :)
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> ara: You mean in /usr/lib now?  (And have you tested Firefox to see if it did it automatically?)
[08:28] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: what do i do :-(
[08:28] <Ferris_B> I also managed to nuke the /etc/init.d/apache2 file, amd reinstalling apache doesn't bring it back
[08:28] <QMario> Intelikey, I just want the KDE Headers.
[08:28] <plagerism> I have read a lot of posts saying that removing ide_generic from the kernel(allowing libata to handle the burner) may help, but nothing definative
[08:28] <Goldfisch> Ferris_B: What about the apache-php5 library that joins them together?
[08:28] <annibis> humbaro, it gives me an error
[08:29] <QMario> Intelikey,  "you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed".
[08:29] <Ferris_B> is that the mod php one?
[08:29] <annibis> user:group invlalid user
[08:29] <humbraro> ok, the username should be a real username, and the group should be a real group
[08:29] <ara> tonyyaruso: no , not there, it's in the folder on my desktop
[08:29] <humbraro> a good place to start would be with your username and default group
[08:30] <intelikey> QMario apt-get kde-devel   i think
[08:30] <Goldfisch> Ferris_B: Do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[08:30] <mebaran151> hey
[08:30] <annibis> so like annibis:default
[08:30] <mebaran151> I can't seem to get Kopete to work as I'd like in Kubuntu
[08:30] <humbraro> such as chown annibis:users or annibis:annibis
[08:30] <calamari> hmm.. is ext2 less efficient than fat?  trying to fit some files on an ext2 floppy that fit on a fat one, but can't seem to
[08:30] <mebaran151> it won't automagically do the tabbing for me
[08:30] <annibis> ok
[08:30] <mebaran151> despite the number of times I select the option
[08:30] <Ferris_B> yes, libapache2-mod-php is installed
[08:30] <ara> tonyyaruso: should i move it to /usr/lib ????
[08:31] <humbraro> annibis: if you type "ls -l ~" you'll get your username and group listed on all the files there
[08:31] <annibis> humbaro, it works now thanks for your help
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> ara: Are you trying to tell me that installing with Synaptic somehow places things on your desktop??
[08:31] <humbraro> cool, glad to help
[08:32] <QMario> Intelikey, so how will I tell Ubuntu to run GNOME, not KDE?
[08:32] <ara> tonyyaruso:  no, this is the one which i installed it manually , myself
[08:32] <intelikey> humbraro no,  add -A to that
[08:32] <ilba7r> hi i have installed ndiswrapper the driver is present, hardware present and after configuring it and bringing it up i can not ping my router. Any udeas?
[08:32] <Ferris_B> I'd really like to just remove all the apache/php stuff completely and reinstall, but whenever I apt-get remive and then reinstall, it seems a lot of files still linger. How does one completely remove them?
[08:32] <humbraro> intelikey: ls -a just shows hidden files, -l shows more than just names
[08:32] <ara> tonyyaruso: i did with synaptic too, but it still won't work
[08:32] <QMario> Intelikey?
[08:32] <Sturgeon> QMario: You can choose when you start the session
[08:32] <Goldfisch> Ferris_B: dpkg -P <pkg> <--- purge everything including config files
[08:32] <Sturgeon> if you're using KDE or Gnome
[08:32] <intelikey> you wont have too QMario
[08:32] <Ferris_B> ahhh
[08:33] <intelikey> it will load gnome
[08:33] <slim> dir
[08:33] <ilba7r> iwlist scan work fine but can not ping the router although i disabled all securties on it :(
[08:33] <mebaran151> oh
[08:33] <ara> tonyyaruso: do this j2re file need to be in /usr/lib???
[08:33] <ilba7r> it used to work with hoary now it isn't with breezy :(
[08:33] <mebaran151> how can I configure which menu items appear in either KDE or Gnome's menus?
[08:33] <senectus> whats the command for viewing a log in real time.. so as stuff hit it you get that on the screen?
[08:33] <mebaran151> I'd like to put the KDE stuff with KDE and Gnome's in Gnome
[08:33] <Goldfisch> senectus: tail -f <foobar>
[08:33] <ilba7r> mebaran just left click on the menu with the mouse
[08:33] <ilba7r> or type smeg in a terminal
[08:34] <intelikey> unless you install kdebase QMario it will surely load gnome by default.   and if you install full kde it will let you choose which desktop to load when you log in.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> ara: There should be a j2re-something directory in /usr/lib is it was actually installed by anything.  So you say you did Synaptic too?  Where'd that go then?
[08:34] <senectus> Goldfisch, thanks..
[08:35] <senectus> which log file is it in apache2 that logs website hits?
[08:35] <Goldfisch> senectus: I believe /var/log/apache/access.log
[08:35] <slim> wpa is setup according to the HOWTO on the forums. but when I reboot, I have to manually restart network services in order to get internet connectivity..any suggestions?
[08:35] <intelikey> back to humbraro,  yes i like  ls -lAsh ~    my self.
[08:35] <GnarlyBob> is there a repository that might have firefox 1.5?
[08:36] <Goldfisch> senectus: Err.../var/log/apache2/access.log
[08:36] <Inf3ctedFx> GnarlyBob: let me give ua guidfe u can install Firefox from the installer
[08:36] <Goldfisch> My fingers don't have the muscle-memory to add the extra "2" onto every pathname now needed for apache2.
[08:36] <ara> tonyyaruso: it's jvm, and there are some java files  and folders inside
[08:36] <senectus> Goldfisch, my access.log is utterly empty  and hitting the site adds nothing to it
[08:37] <Inf3ctedFx> Goldfisch: here u have -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:37] <ara> tonyyaruso: there's also jre folder in there
[08:37] <Inf3ctedFx> i used it and it works just fine 4 me
[08:38] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: thank you knindly
[08:38] <GnarlyBob> kindly too
[08:38] <intelikey> echo 'alias l="ls -lAsh"' >> ~.bashrc
[08:38] <Inf3ctedFx> n/p Goldfisch
[08:38] <GnarlyBob> might want to work on your nick completion btw ;)
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay, look in the jre for plugin/
[08:39] <Goldfisch> senectus: Make sure you are freshly hitting the web site, and not your browser's cache. Do a Ctrl-F5.
[08:39] <Goldfisch> senectus: My access.log is filled with traffic from hitting my wiki web site.
[08:39] <MonoJ0ker> i'm getting a fatal error when i try to run tightvncserver - could not open default font 'fixed' - anyone know what is borked?
[08:40] <senectus> Goldfisch, hmm that changed nothing..
[08:40] <Alltaken> i am trying to download themes, but what is the difference between GDM, matacity, GTK.... makes no sense to me
[08:40] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Yes. I ran into that issue. There is a font file that is missing a space. It breaks the whole thing. I can't remember which file, but it is like a one-line edit.
[08:40] <w4f7z> anyone know where i can get firefox 1.5 resoprosities
[08:41] <intelikey> has it made the repos yet ?
[08:41] <w4f7z> im asumeing that i need some 3rd party one
[08:41] <humbraro> not in repos when i checked earlier
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, intelikey: I don't think so.
[08:41] <ilba7r_> anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?
[08:41] <MonoJ0ker> Goldfisch: bummer i can't find the name of the file on google either :(
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, I got it from the mozilla site and installed on my own.
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, Used these instructions:
[08:42] <EpP> hey
[08:42] <intelikey> na i didn't think it was...
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> !tell w4f7z about firefox15
[08:42] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Give me a second. I remember reading about it there....
[08:42] <intelikey> there was a wiki on it tho
[08:42] <EpP> how is everyone?
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> ara: Status report?
[08:42] <intelikey> EpP houngry..... bbiab
[08:42] <w4f7z> tonyyarusso, yeah i did that, but some of my plugins and configs are tweeked cuz i still have 1.0.7 (or w/e) installed
[08:43] <EpP> sup
[08:43] <w4f7z> yo
[08:43] <ara> tonyyarusso: there is no plugin folder, there are some folders in there but no plunin
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> w4f7z, Right.
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay, to limit confusion, I want you to tell me full paths for the places we're talking about.  Along with exactly what you installed with Synaptic.
[08:44] <ara> tonyyarusso: shouldn't this j2re file be moved to mozilla-firefox plugin folder?
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> ara: No.
[08:44] <humbraro> the adblock extension on 1.5 is cool - it autoupdates the filter
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> ara: If we can find what we want, we'll be putting a symlink to it there.
[08:44] <GnarlyBob> I couldn't get adblock working in 1.5 on windoze, about to try it on linux
[08:45] <ara> tonyyarusso: i installed java 1.4
[08:45] <ara> tonyyarusso: with synaptic
[08:45] <humbraro> worked fine for me on a windoze box yesterday
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay.
[08:45] <humbraro> but thats windows - inconsistant at best
[08:46] <ara> tonyyarusso: and the path is /usr/lib/jvm/
[08:46] <Inf3ctedFx> Hey ppl I have a question, if I have a 60 Gi HDD slave on my box, can I install linux on that one then make it run without change the boot system on my Bios?
[08:46] <ara> tonyyarusso: and there's no plugin folder in there
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: Do you have a /usr/lib/j2se? (With an S instead of an R?)
[08:47] <Inf3ctedFx> ara: whats the proble ur Java?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: (That's a difference between the 1.5 and 1.4, I had thought you were still trying 1.5)
[08:47] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: the short answer is yes
[08:47] <Mitrovarr> how do I set the cc environment variable?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> Inf3ctedFx, So far, it's lost.
[08:47] <Inf3ctedFx> humbraro:  how?
[08:47] <marccd> how can I add a user to a group?
[08:47] <Nikusan> When I try to mount an .iso (eg: sudo mount -o loop ta.iso /home/dan/ta) I get the error "mount: could not find any free loop device".
[08:47] <Nikusan> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[08:48] <marccd> Mitrovarr: CC=whaver
[08:48] <Inf3ctedFx> tonyyarusso:  is ara  using or updating to firefox 1.5?
[08:48] <ara> tonyyarusso: no i don't have such a folder like that
[08:48] <marccd> Mitrovarr: or export CC=whatever
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> Inf3ctedFx, Not to my knowledge.
[08:48] <Inf3ctedFx> because I had the same problem b4, but now is working just fine
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> ara: Uhh, okay...
[08:48] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: its not the safest thing in the world, but you can install $bootloader on your primary drive, which allows you to boot other drives
[08:48] <Mitrovarr> I tried that but the NVIDIA installer won't accept that, it still complains about having the wrong compiler
[08:49] <Inf3ctedFx> humbraro: why u say is not the safest thing?
[08:49] <ilba7r_> ara you can see what sympolic link you are using type which java , If it is in /usr/bin type ls -l /usr/bin/java , the output will tell you where your files are
[08:49] <Inf3ctedFx> well ara  or tonyyarusso  if is anything that I can help, let me know
[08:49] <MonoJ0ker> ok i've tried a fix in the config
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> now when i type it from the kommand window it says:
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> Creating default startup script /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> Starting applications specified in /home/liam/.vnc/xstartup
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> Log file is /home/liam/.vnc/ross:1.log
[08:50] <MonoJ0ker> is it running now?
[08:50] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: you might have to overwrite the bootloader thats already on that drive - do you have a windows install on your primary drive?
[08:50] <ilba7r_> anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?  i would appreciate it if i hear this is a regular complain or this is so easy you made a mistake. any help is appreciated
[08:50] <intelikey> marccd  man usermod
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> Channel: Please confirm: Installing j2re1.4 (Blackdown Java) from Breezy Multiverse should create a directory /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/<architecture>/mozilla/?
[08:51] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Can you tell me what exact font it is breaking on? Is it misc, 100dpi, 75dpi, what?
[08:51] <Inf3ctedFx> well yes humbraro right now my master hdd is 200 gig, and I have 100 win, and 100 linux but also I have 2 slave 60 gig each.. so I want to know if I use one of those slave just linux, can I boot from there right?
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> i think it's ok
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> i see xtightvnc running in the process table
[08:51] <MonoJ0ker> so i should be right?
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Inf3ctedFx, ^^ for how you can help.
[08:52] <Goldfisch> MonoJ0ker: Well, give it a whirl.
[08:52] <ara> tonyyarusso: so what's next?
[08:52] <MonoJ0ker> but i don't know how to find out the ip on here :(
[08:52] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: yup, just make the partition you install to bootable, then add an entry in your bootloader for that partition (sdb1, or whatever)
[08:52] <Inf3ctedFx> well I dont know tonyyarusso  with ara  problemm with some website with info
[08:52] <MonoJ0ker> sorry i've been using kubuntu (and linux) for all of about 2 hours now
[08:52] <MonoJ0ker> total n00b
[08:52] <cafuego> MonoJ0ker: run 'ifconfig'
[08:53] <ilba7r_> tonyyarusso, ara easiest open synaptic type java and look for the installed files you have
[08:53] <Mitrovarr> ah, the proper command was export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> ara: Finding your installation folder for Java, since we have yet to succeed.
[08:53] <cafuego> MonoJ0ker: if you need the IP for remote access, lynx http://www.cc.com.au/ip.php
[08:53] <Inf3ctedFx> MonoJ0ker:  open terminal and type "ifconfig"
[08:53] <ara> ok let me check
[08:53] <humbraro> Inf3ctedFx: you'll have to ask someone else for help if your using grub though, i'm still hanging on to lilo
[08:54] <ilba7r_> ara it is in properties
[08:54] <Inf3ctedFx> ok humbraro  thas ok man.. anyway I think 100 gig is better than 60 on another drive xD
[08:55] <ilba7r_> seems this laptop will never have wireless to fly:(
[08:56] <ara> i have like 30 packages of java installed, i can't type all of them here, which one should i have?
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> ara: j2re1.4
[08:57] <PeteyPablo> 1.5 runs alot smoother
[08:57] <Mitrovarr> is there any good way to get multi-monitor support going without hand editing the xorg.conf?
[08:58] <ara> tonyyarusso: i don't even have a package with that name in the list
[08:58] <cafuego> Seveas: You awake?
[08:58] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  how many monitors r u going to use?
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> ara: Then what did you install??
[08:58] <Mitrovarr> 2
[08:58] <Inf3ctedFx> 2 video cards?
[08:58] <Mitrovarr> no, one two-header
[08:58] <ara> tonyyarusso: it was java 1.4
[08:58] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  cuz I have the same problem b4
[08:59] <youngcoder> anyone here use Dalnet?
[08:59] <Inf3ctedFx> I did it with 2 video cars
[08:59] <nekostar> ive been trying to install ubuntu on a 600mhz celeron 128mb ram driven dell laptop [inspirion 4000]  and it hangs on the kernel install
[08:59] <ara> tonyyarusso: that's what it told me
[08:59] <Inf3ctedFx> but let me give u a guide here
[08:59] <nekostar> any clues why it would do that?
[08:59] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on
[08:59] <nekostar> i even gave it like an hour
[08:59] <cafuego> nekostar: 'Dell' is a large clue. ;-)
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> ara: What was the package name?
[08:59] <Mitrovarr> well it can be done with hand-editing xorg.conf but I was hoping some nice shiny tool existed to make it less of a PITA
[08:59] <nekostar> . . .
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> ara: What is 'it' that told you?
[08:59] <nekostar> so mean !_!
[08:59] <WeBDsIgNNeR> How can I access a txt file from ubuntu? Ps.: Is in windows...
[08:59] <cafuego> nekostar: Anything logged on terminals 2 through 4?
[08:59] <WeBDsIgNNeR> How can I access a txt file from ubuntu? Ps.: Its in windows...
[08:59] <ara> tonyyarusso: synaptic
[08:59] <nekostar> locks up actually heh
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> ara: How did it tell you?
[09:00] <EpP> whats a good free shell site?
[09:00] <cafuego> nekostar: I have a 500MHz celeron 128Mb dell craptop, I can mock them if I want to! :-)
[09:00] <nekostar> didnt see anything on the terminals either..
[09:00] <gerald-volt> WeBDsIgNNeR - is your windows FS ntfs?
[09:00] <nekostar> LOL fair enough
[09:00] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  here u go --> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[09:00] <WeBDsIgNNeR> [gerald-volt] : yes
[09:00] <nekostar> besides ur right :P
[09:00] <gerald-volt> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:00] <ara> tonyyarusso: how do i get that file in my list?
[09:00] <Fanskapet> ara: uhm? ssh IP, nano /text/file.txt
[09:00] <Nikusan> When I try to mount an .iso (eg: sudo mount -o loop ta.iso /home/dan/ta) I get the error "mount: could not find any free loop device".
[09:00] <Nikusan>  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[09:00] <cafuego> nekostar: THough I must admit that when in the dock it makes a fantabulous Edubuntu LTSP client.
[09:01] <nekostar> ltsp?
[09:01] <nekostar> whats that?
[09:01] <nekostar> and i dont have a dock
[09:01] <Mitrovarr> thanks
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> ara: You enable multiverse, which you previously claimed was already done.
[09:01] <cafuego> nekostar: The joy of admins worldwide :-)
[09:01] <cafuego> !ltsp
[09:01] <ubotu> ltsp is, like, when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server.
[09:01] <nekostar> i just want it to watch anime on a big creen on the go
[09:01] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  I use this one even with dual head, is for Gentoo but also work perfect with Ubuntu  --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[09:01] <nekostar> that didnt say much lol
[09:01] <Mitrovarr> I do wish someone would make a good tool for multi-monitor though, it's annoying to have to hand-edit things every time I want to turn it on/off
[09:01] <nekostar> like a thin client?
[09:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  is really EASY.. I spend maybe 4 days trying to make it work but when I found these HOWTO I see is really easy
[09:02] <nekostar> Mitrovarr, you can
[09:02] <nekostar> make a null multimode
[09:02] <nekostar> what vid card do you have
[09:02] <N6REJ> I'm having a problem with a LVM partition.  its set as root ownership and I can't change it even as root.
[09:02] <ara> tonyyarusso: i think i've done it , i was reading on one of the ubuntu help sites and i think i've done it
[09:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  let me c ur xorg and I'll show u what do u need to add
[09:02] <Mitrovarr> geforce 6600 gt
[09:02] <humbraro> nekostar: check out ltsp.org - brings new life to all those old crappy machines you have lying around
[09:03] <ara> tonyyarusso: how do i double check?
[09:03] <nekostar> awesome thanx humbraro
[09:03] <Mitrovarr> um, it's on a different computer
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> ara: Tell me what you did.
[09:03] <Mitrovarr> I can do the hand-editing actually.  I was just hoping someone would know of a tool.
[09:03] <nekostar> i assume u mean dual or better monitors and turning off and on
[09:03] <Inf3ctedFx> ok Mitrovarr  but I'm 100% sure it will work 4 u those howto
[09:03] <N6REJ> humbraro, how much does it slow down the machine its booting off of?
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> ara: Then, in Synaptic, "Reload", and search for j2re again.
[09:03] <nekostar> yes im gonna give you a line to put in xorg
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> ara: When it shows up in the list, you've added the repo.
[09:04] <Mitrovarr> plus the support seems a little buggy... this computer has tv-out going and it crashes every single time I leave X
[09:04] <nekostar> 1280x1024,1280x1024; 1024x768,1024x768; null,1024x768; null,1280x1024
[09:04] <N6REJ> can anyone help with lvm?
[09:04] <Inf3ctedFx> if is possible 4 u to show me ur xorg I will help u better
[09:04] <MonoJ0ker> Warning! Remote Desktop will only work if there's a GNOME login session
[09:04] <nekostar> or swap where the nulls are
[09:04] <cafuego> nekostar: Is there a pcmcia card plugged in?
[09:04] <nekostar> put that in instead of just the dual mon resses
[09:04] <nekostar> sure isnt cafuego
[09:05] <nekostar> and its a fully offline install
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> oh, so if I set one of the null/res modes it'll only display on one monitor?
[09:05] <nekostar> yup
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> hey, that's awesome
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> thanks
[09:05] <nekostar> and it shows in the res options
[09:05] <nekostar> :)
[09:05] <QMario> Are there any avi to mpeg converters out there for Linux?
[09:05] <Inf3ctedFx> n/p Mitrovarr
[09:05] <cafuego> QMario: mencoder
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> that way I can finally have this computer shut down without crashing!  woot!
[09:05] <nekostar> wait
[09:05] <Inf3ctedFx> yep :)
[09:05] <nekostar> thats not gonna fix that
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> oh
[09:05] <ilba7r_> anyone know what is missing after installing the ndiswrappers and drives for a broadcom card. The same drivers used to work under hoary. The network is configured and iwlist scan work yet i can not ping my router? dmesg say no ipv6 routers present with the wlan is this relative?  i would appreciate it if i hear this is a regular complain or this is so easy you made a mistake. any help is appreciated
[09:05] <nekostar> youve got a bigger problem if its crashing
[09:05] <Mitrovarr> I was hoping shutting down tv-out would make it not crash
[09:05] <nekostar> b/c mine doesnt
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> maybe it's a hardware issue?
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> it hard-crashes
[09:06] <nekostar> explain exactly whats going on
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> total lockup
[09:06] <nekostar> plz
[09:06] <humbraro> N6REJ: well, that depends on what apps your using, but the overhead isn't too bad
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> well, if I leave X with the tv-out enabled, it hard-crashes
[09:06] <nekostar> do you have logs ?
[09:06] <nekostar> ah
[09:06] <Mabus06> what should the permissions on .dmrc be?
[09:06] <nekostar> there was a config i found when googling dual monitor xorg for gentoo
[09:06] <Inf3ctedFx> P3L|C4N0:  gusto en verte por aki :)
[09:06] <Mitrovarr> I have some xorg logs.  Which one would it be?
[09:06] <N6REJ> humbaro, ok cool, my kids will like that.
[09:06] <nekostar> au;todetects for a tv
[09:06] <humbraro> N6REJ: RAM is more of a concern than anything
[09:06] <Inf3ctedFx> mmm
[09:07] <N6REJ> anyone know how to change permissions on a lvm partition?
[09:07] <nekostar> look at the end of the logs when its crashing
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> Mitrovarr:  is ur video card nvidia right?
[09:07] <nekostar> ill see if i can find that link for ya
[09:07] <humbraro> N6REJ: mine do :)
[09:07] <Mitrovarr> yeah
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> let me check here something
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> ara, You still alive?
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> did u install the drivers do u?
[09:07] <Mitrovarr> the drivers from the repository
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, apt-get install nvidia
[09:07] <Mitrovarr> nvidia driver, 3-d accel and everything
[09:07] <ara> tonyyarusso: i am , trying to find out if i'va done the multiverse or no?
[09:07] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> ara: Waiting for Synaptic to reload the list?
[09:08] <Mitrovarr> hmm
[09:08] <Mitrovarr> do I put those nulls in the screen0 or the screen1 section?
[09:08] <ara> tonyyarusso: i did look, i can't find
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: Then, no.
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: (You never did tell me how you thought you had done it.)
[09:09] <MonoJ0ker> ok so i'm installing ubunut-desktop
[09:09] <Inf3ctedFx> well Mitrovarr  the only thing I see here is u need just to tell xorg u have 2 monitores, give the detaisl about the monitores like Horiz and Ver sync and also turn off the xinerama
[09:09] <ilba7r_> are install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[09:09] <MonoJ0ker> i should be able to login to a gnome session then right?
[09:09] <N6REJ> Seveas, can you help with lvm permissions?
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: In Synaptic, try going to Settings > Repositories.
[09:09] <gerald-volt> er
[09:09] <Mitrovarr> brb, restarting x server
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ara: Click Add.
[09:09] <ilba7r_> i guess that is what you are looking for ara, tonyyarusso
[09:10] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ara: Check the box for "Multiverse".
[09:10] <Inf3ctedFx> look Mitrovarr  let me show u my xorg with 2 video cards so maybe u have an idea
[09:10] <ara> tonyyarusso: ok, hold
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, We'll need that, but not before we can get Java to start with.
[09:10] <nekostar> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-44463.html
[09:10] <N6REJ> nobody knows how to work with lvm?
[09:10] <nekostar> that SHOULD work for the tv
[09:10] <intelikey> oh how quaint, the initrd is useless on the live cd when trying to boot from the hdd ......
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, (I think mine actually did the plugin automatically without that package, but whatever.)
[09:11] <ilba7r_> tonyyarusso i thought that jre is already installed :)
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, Oh, we'd like to think so...
[09:12] <nekostar> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[09:12] <Inf3ctedFx> u can check nekostar  but I'm not sure
[09:13] <ilba7r_> ok will leave you then but if needed help will always be glad to lend a hand
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r_, All right, thanks.
[09:13] <ilba7r_> !broadcom
[09:13] <ubotu> hmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[09:13] <nekostar> whats that Inf3ctedFx ?
[09:13] <nekostar> i got it working for my card
[09:13] <nekostar> but i dont use the tv
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> Any idea how long it usually takes for the team to check out suggested specs posted on launchpad?  (Wondering when I might get a review for mine at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-apt-install-to-usbflash)
[09:14] <Inf3ctedFx> is the VMware Player really good?
[09:14] <nekostar> best thing to do is make two monitor display and device sections
[09:14] <nekostar> ive not used vmware
[09:14] <intelikey> errr is there something wrong with this line in the grub prompt,  'kernel (hd2,0)/boot/ubuntuz root=/dev/hdb1 '   is that trying to load the kernel from hdb1's  /boot  ?????
[09:14] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: it's as good as vmware workstation, only difference that I've been able to tell is you can't create a new vm from the player
[09:14] <nekostar> what are you trying to play?
[09:15] <Inf3ctedFx> Nekos:  here is my xorg with 2 monitors and 2 video cards  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6372
[09:15] <intelikey> grub users ?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Yeah.
[09:15] <ara> tonyyarusso: ok i went to setting-repositories-add and check the multiverse box and reloaded again , i still can't find a package called j2re
[09:15] <nekostar> i use that intelikey
[09:15] <Inf3ctedFx> so GnarlyBob  I have in this machine just linux and then I instal VMware to install windows, it will work fine?
[09:15] <nekostar> lol
[09:16] <intelikey> is that line trying to get the kernel from hdb1 ?
[09:16] <nekostar> !tell ara about restricted formats
[09:16] <GnarlyBob> you need vmware workstation to create a windows vm that will load in the vmware player
[09:16] <Inf3ctedFx> nekostar:   here is my xorg with 2 monitors and 2 video cards  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6372
[09:16] <humbraro> tonyyarusso: damn small linux can something similar to that with a flash drive
[09:16] <Wilf> can xcdroast burn just data cd's?
[09:16] <Wilf> all isee is audio stuff...
[09:16] <humbraro> tonyyarusso: er, *do* something similar...
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay, at this point I'm going to say ditch Synaptic, and ask you do use the cli for some stuff, so I have a better idea about what's going wrong, is that all right?
[09:16] <Inf3ctedFx> mm GnarlyBob vm workstation?
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: the regular "VMWare" that people have used for centuries
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> the player is new
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> they do offer a 30 day demo of workstation
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> humbraro, Yeah, I've heard that.  Hence my mention towards the bottom of hearing that other distros had that capability.  It would be nice if Ubuntu did.
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> I'm actually thinking about signing up for vmtn
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> look GnarlyBob  i'm in this website;  http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> Inf3ctedFx: yes, that will play an already-made virtual machine
[09:17] <GnarlyBob> "play" meaning "run"
[09:18] <ilba7r_> !broadcom
[09:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[09:18] <TTilus> Wilf: i remember burning data cd's with xcdroast
[09:18] <nekostar> Inf3ctedFx, just like that
[09:18] <Mabus06> what do I have to install from default in order to compile c++?
[09:18] <nekostar> but you use the same pci etc for the vid cards and same for the svcrrens etc
[09:18] <MonoJ0ker> so is it possible to get vnc server to work on Kubuntu?
[09:18] <nekostar> just make the identifiers different etc
[09:18] <TTilus> Wilf: if you cant find how to create data cd, just try another prog
[09:18] <liable> !b-e
[09:18] <ubotu> b-e is probably no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:19] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: of course
[09:19] <intelikey> having hda hdb hdc hdd all connected and all active in bios the line 'kernel'   is that trying to load the kernel from hdb1's
[09:19] <TTilus> Wilf: k3b or like
[09:19] <Wilf> TTilus, i'm using nautlus...heh
[09:19] <MonoJ0ker> the instructions say you can only use remote desktop with a gnome login
[09:19] <MonoJ0ker> so fucks me
[09:19] <intelikey> cause it's not on hdb
[09:19] <humbraro> tonyyarusso: dsl saves things like settings and bookmarks to a flash drive, I don't know if it can install software to one
[09:19] <MonoJ0ker> kubuntu+gnome = ubuntu in my book
[09:19] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: that's just gnome's front end to the RDC or VNC or whatever
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> ara: In a terminal emulator window (Applications > Accessories > Terminal), do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'.
[09:20] <GnarlyBob> er... ubuntu + kde = kubuntu, in anyone's book :)
[09:20] <Wilf> woah.
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> humbraro, Ah.
[09:20] <Wilf> this is easy!
[09:20] <ara> tonyyarusso: i just found it
[09:20] <MonoJ0ker> i have tightvnc installed and running yet connection attempts from ultravnc fail
[09:20] <MonoJ0ker> every time
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> ara: What did you do differently?
[09:20] <TTilus> Wilf: see you found it?
[09:20] <ara> tonyyarusso: i typed in the search menu, j2re
[09:21] <Wilf> TTilus, this is easier then with WinXP
[09:21] <khaled> hi.. i just install postgresql.. whats the default password for postgres user? i tried doing "su - postgres". i am getting a prompt for password
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> ara: Okay......  Then what were you doing before?
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> i just want to get a way to connect to this linux machine with my xp machine
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> can it really be that hard?
[09:21] <ara> tonyyarusso: i was searching for java not j2re
[09:21] <GnarlyBob> yeah, k3b is arguably the easiest to use and most stable cd burning software on the market, commercial or otherwise
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> ara: You'll want to install j2re.14 and j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin, probably with Firefox closed while you do so.
[09:21] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, firewall ?
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> nope
[09:21] <MonoJ0ker> i can vnc to other machines on the network
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> ara: Which would be why I told you not to search for java, because the results list is ridiculous.
[09:22] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: something's awry with your vnc server setup then
[09:22] <nekostar> Inf3ctedFx, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83073
[09:22] <MonoJ0ker> in fact if i boot this machine into windows then i can vnc into it
[09:22] <Mabus06> gcc: -E or -x required when input is from standard input
[09:22] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, can you ssh to the machine ?
[09:22] <Mabus06> I got this error, why?
[09:22] <MonoJ0ker> boot into linux - server connection failed
[09:22] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: need a bit more information than that
[09:22] <MonoJ0ker> khaled no it's the only linux machine on the network
[09:22] <GnarlyBob> error messages, what version/config vnc server you're running, etc
[09:22] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, you can get a ssh client for windows and give it a try
[09:22] <ara> tonyyarusso: yeah, thank you very much for your help, i'm pretty new to linux , it's hard to work with but i like it
[09:23] <P-NuT> Hi all, redhat has a kickstart file which you can make unattended installations with. Does Ubuntu have something similar?
[09:23] <intelikey> i can never get grub to boot,  i don't speak gruby  or something.
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> ara: Yeah, it can be.
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> ara: I picked up a disk through ShipIt in August.
[09:24] <ilba7r_> at last free at last its working now the damin broadcom chipset
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> error message is "failed to connect to server"
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> i'm connecting from ultravnc in windows using the ip
[09:24] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:24] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, are you sure the server is running a vncserver ?
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> i thought vnc just worked usually
[09:24] <z|bandito> lo
[09:24] <MonoJ0ker> but then i've never tried it under linux
[09:24] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, yes it does
[09:24] <GnarlyBob> and is there a vnc server running at the time you try to connect, and on the right port etc?
[09:25] <MonoJ0ker> under processes it shows the vnc service running
[09:25] <ara> tonyyarusso: heeyyyyy, it works
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> It was sort of interesting too.  That package kind of looked like a mail bomb.  From the Netherlands, somewhat unexpected given the delay, return address of just some shipping dock, no name, no description, bulky and padded.
[09:25] <humbraro> EpP: unfortunately, i haven't been able to find any sync software except for Palm, and some rsync hacks that kind of work on linux-based handhelds
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> It was kind of nice to see that they changed the labeling for the Breezy ships.
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> ara: Sweet.
[09:25] <Mabus06> How do I mount 3 separate .ISOs?
[09:25] <khaled> MonoJ0ker, try running a vnc client in the linux machine and connect to self
[09:26] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[09:26] <humbraro> EpP: if you find anything, please let me know, as i wanna upgrade my ancient palm m100
[09:26] <MonoJ0ker> i don't have one installed i don't think
[09:26] <ara> tonyyarusso: thanks anyway, i'm leaving, bye
[09:26] <MonoJ0ker> and vnc doesn't allow loopback connections does it?
[09:26] <z|bandito> anyone running ubuntu, or any linux, on an asus A8N SLI deluxe, particularly using the onboard raid?  it's an n-force 4 chipset with an extra raid controller.. i can't find much about it's linux compatibility on the web so far.. thanks! :)
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> ara: Bye.
[09:27] <GnarlyBob> connecting to yourself != loopback connection
[09:27] <intelikey> i have these two lines 'kernel (hd2,0)/boot/ubuntuz root=/dev/hdb1  ; initrd (hd2,0)/boot/ubinitrd.img '   the root for that os is on hdb1 which should be bios (1,0)   and the grub system that was installed is on a pinguin on hdc1  which should be bios (hd2,0)    now where the hell is it trying to load the kernel and initrd from ?  which drive?
[09:27] <QMario> Cafuego, are you still there?
[09:27] <GnarlyBob> vnc <IP_ADDRESS> (my ip address) is not the same as vnc <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:27] <QMario> How do I use mencoder?
[09:27] <MonoJ0ker> is there a way to bring up the vnc server app itself?
[09:27] <MonoJ0ker> all i can see is the process running
[09:27] <GnarlyBob> there is no app
[09:28] <MonoJ0ker> what about a client app?
[09:28] <khaled> GnarlyBob, just trying to figure out if his server is working fine
[09:28] <MonoJ0ker> i can ping the linux box ok
[09:28] <intelikey> it's looking for the kernel on /dev/hdc1  correct ?
[09:28] <GnarlyBob> khaled: yeah, it's obvious to me that it's not running with standard settings
[09:28] <MonoJ0ker> it's a brand new install
[09:28] <khaled> GnarlyBob, it might be cause of firewall too
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> the only thing i modified was the font path part of the config file to get the thing to run at all
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> there is no firewall except on the router
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> these pcs are all inside the router
[09:29] <MonoJ0ker> does kubuntu have any inbuilt firewall settings?
[09:29] <GnarlyBob> no
[09:29] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:29] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:30] <Mabus06> How do I mount 3 separate .ISOs?
[09:30] <MonoJ0ker> maybe there's no place for an old windows user with linux :(
[09:30] <khaled> intelikey, yes.. its looking for kernel in /dev/hdc according to your conf file
[09:30] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: I've got a very similar setup here, and it works fine
[09:30] <MonoJ0ker> it just can't be so hard to install a simple remote control tool...
[09:30] <Mabus06> MonoJ0ker, get firestarter
[09:31] <khaled> intelikey, trying using grub console .. you can use "Tab" key to help you
[09:31] <GnarlyBob> a windows laptop, able to use realvnc client to connect to the vnc server on my linux machine with no trouble
[09:31] <eddye> How do i install Ubuntu-Desktop without the Breezy Badger CD
[09:31] <EpP> eddye...
[09:31] <MonoJ0ker> so what's left to check?
[09:31] <MonoJ0ker> the service is installed and running
[09:31] <EpP> eddye, apt-get install kubuntu-Desktop
[09:31] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: the configuration of your vnc server and/or client
[09:31] <MonoJ0ker> password has been set
[09:31] <intelikey> ok thanks for the confirmation on that khaled,   grub console ?   i'm looking at that at the boot prompt now.
[09:32] <GnarlyBob> best guess is that your client is trying to connect to a port that's different from what the server is listening on
[09:32] <eddye> EnP: what if  i mess something up
[09:32] <tjb13> my firefox crashes all the time... etf
[09:32] <tjb13> wt
[09:32] <tjb13> f
[09:32] <eddye> as i know ubuntu and kubuntu arent the same
[09:32] <eddye> :)
[09:32] <MonoJ0ker> i have vnc.conf open
[09:32] <MonoJ0ker> no mention of port number
[09:32] <khaled> intelikey, yes.. use the cd to boot up in rescue mode.. be root.. and type "grub" .. fix it and then reboot
[09:33] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: can you connect from a client running locally?
[09:33] <eddye> EnP: i have to use the cd :) i don't have it anymore
[09:33] <eddye> :)
[09:33] <MonoJ0ker> what's a local client i can install?
[09:33] <GnarlyBob> e.g. try "vnc" or "vncviewer" or something from a shell prompt
[09:33] <intelikey> why not just hit [e]  and fix it and boot khaled ?
[09:33] <intelikey> done did.....
[09:33] <EpP> eddye, have you tried apt-get install ubuntu-Dektop?
[09:33] <khaled> tjb13, you have an alternative choice (opera)
[09:33] <EpP> Desktop*
[09:33] <eddye> yes the same problem : ) i need cd :)
[09:33] <khaled> intelikey, i am not sure if the "tab" thing works there
[09:34] <tjb13> khaled it stopped working after i installed this flash thing
[09:34] <EpP> get it...
[09:34] <eddye> omg I'll have to find it
[09:34] <eddye> bye :)
[09:34] <MonoJ0ker> i can run vncviewer
[09:34] <MonoJ0ker> it asks for ip/host
[09:34] <MonoJ0ker> i enter it and it does nothing
[09:34] <khaled> tjb13, ah
[09:35] <EpP> I have a pocket pc, is there a program equivelent to activesync for linux?
[09:35] <MonoJ0ker> if i putin the linux machine hostname it says:  vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[09:35] <khaled> EpP, tried Pilot ?
[09:35] <GnarlyBob> then it's not listening on the port that the client is trying to connect to
[09:35] <MonoJ0ker> i don't understand why all the conf file lines are prefixed with #
[09:35] <MonoJ0ker> isn't that the ignore command?
[09:35] <GnarlyBob> those are comments
[09:35] <GnarlyBob> yes
[09:36] <Mabus06> how can I get my c++ compiler working? I get 'c++: -E or -x required when input is from standard input
[09:36] <Mabus06> '
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> and every line in the vnc.conf file is #ed
[09:36] <GnarlyBob> usually, whatever the setting is that's there as a comment is sort of indicative of the defaults with no specific settings
[09:36] <EpP> khaled, is that for ppc or palm?
[09:36] <tjb13> anyone have any idea of how to get sleep to work on a thinkpad
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> but every line?  seems weird
[09:36] <GnarlyBob> Mabus06: you need source code to compile
[09:36] <khaled> EpP, i do not have a pocket pc but you can give gnome-pilot a try
[09:36] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: yeah, it's just a way of documenting the default settings
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[09:36] <Mabus06> GnarlyBob, I'm trying to compile a .cpp file
[09:36] <MonoJ0ker> but it means my conf file has no relevant settings
[09:37] <GnarlyBob> Mabus06: so you're doing something like: g++ myfile.cpp ?
[09:37] <Mabus06> and then -o myfile.out
[09:37] <Mabus06> err, c++ command actually
[09:37] <intelikey> MonoJ0ker  grep -ve'#' <config_file>
[09:38] <GnarlyBob> Mabus06: it's telling you that for whatever reason, it's trying to read source from standard input (console input) instead of from your source file
[09:38] <Mabus06> Err, nevermind, GnarlyBob. Got it to work.
[09:38] <Mabus06> Thanks
[09:38] <intelikey> only see the lines not commented out
[09:38] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: what are you looking at that's telling you there is a vnc server running?
[09:38] <MonoJ0ker> ksysguard
[09:39] <Mabus06> What should the permissions on the /home/,dmrc file be?
[09:39] <GnarlyBob> do you have a command prompt open?
[09:39] <MonoJ0ker> grep shows me the font lines i added to fix the "font path not found" error
[09:39] <nikos> hey everybody
[09:39] <MonoJ0ker> yep
[09:39] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about radeon graphics cards and if the 3d accel is supported out of the box with ubuntu?
[09:39] <GnarlyBob> ps axuww | grep -i vnc | grep -v grep
[09:39] <GnarlyBob> does that give you any output?
[09:39] <MonoJ0ker> yeah
[09:40] <nikos> In ubuntu breezy badger how can we write the euro symbol?
[09:40] <MonoJ0ker> bit long to paste
[09:40] <Mabus06> spanglesontoast, have you got the two desktops thing to work with your Radeon? Mine is a X700 Pro.
[09:40] <spanglesontoast> no it's an old one
[09:40] <spanglesontoast> 9200
[09:40] <GnarlyBob> ok, what's the name of the vnc process that's running?
[09:40] <intelikey> anyone got a grub menu.lst or lilo.conf that boots a cdrom drive ?
[09:40] <MonoJ0ker> in the sysguard?
[09:40] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: either that or from the shell output, should be the same
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> I'm just wondering if I need to install fglrx or something
[09:41] <intelikey> i've been aimed to set that up but i'm too lazy
[09:41] <MonoJ0ker> xtightvnc
[09:41] <Mabus06> spanglesontoast, you should have fglrx to use ati cards
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> so am I right in saying I don't actually have any 3d accell at the moment?
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> if I had a fresh install?
[09:41] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: that sounds like the name of the vnc client, not the server
[09:42] <nikos> I got a 9600 and works very nice. 3d acceleration, video overlay and multi desktop (although I don't use it that much). I don't know how nvidia's cards work but my radeon 9600 works like a charm
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> really?
[09:42] <GnarlyBob> I'll never give ATI any of my money ever again
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> bummer
[09:42] <khaled> spanglesontoast, try running "glxgears"  .. you should get over 500
[09:42] <GnarlyBob> personal boycott
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> i did install tightvncserver from the repos
[09:42] <MonoJ0ker> any idea how to get it running?
[09:42] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: I could be wrong, checking now
[09:43] <spanglesontoast> it didn't spit any output out??
[09:43] <spanglesontoast> odd
[09:43] <nikos> so does anyone know how to type the euro symbol in breezy
[09:43] <nikos> ?
[09:43] <khaled> spanglesontoast, how fast were the wheels moving ?
[09:43] <MonoJ0ker> if i type tightvncserver at the prompt i get:
[09:43] <MonoJ0ker> New 'X' desktop is ross:2
[09:43] <spanglesontoast> erm slow
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> and now the process table shows 2 instances of tightvnc
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> ok
[09:44] <khaled> spanglesontoast, then no hardware accel
[09:44] <spanglesontoast> :(
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> I know the problem
[09:44] <weekang> hi, i'm using xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu 5.10 but the lock screen button doesn't work..
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> i have killed one
[09:44] <spanglesontoast> shall I install fglrx etc
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> put a :1 at the end of the hostname in your vnc client connection box
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> really?
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> so it wants to use port 1
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> er, or maybe :2, depending on which server you get
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> yes
[09:44] <GnarlyBob> no, that's not a port number
[09:44] <MonoJ0ker> ok
[09:45] <MonoJ0ker> but isn't the syntax for specifying a server in a vnc client [host/ip] :port
[09:45] <MonoJ0ker> ?
[09:45] <khaled> spanglesontoast, i got a friend working at ATI .. he is driver developer.. he told me ATI is working on linux drivers.. they might have already released it..
[09:45] <nikos> about ati's cards check this forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=fglrx+xvideo
[09:45] <GnarlyBob> unix UI stuff runs on the X Window System, which is a network-aware (and clunky and old and broken) windowing system... it runs in listening mode, and can have more than one running at a time, you distinguish between them with the :0.0 :1.0 etc
[09:45] <khaled> spanglesontoast, your card is old anyways.. you should be able to find a driver which supports hardware accel
[09:45] <nikos> very usefull instruction there and nice links
[09:45] <spanglesontoast> yea I hate buying new cards thou
[09:45] <GnarlyBob> no, it's host:X instance number
[09:47] <nikos> radeon 9200 is old? are you serious? besides is there anything running on linux that would puss the card to it's limits? :)
[09:47] <humbraro> so, while folks are going through ATI video card hell... does anybody know how to get an old Rage128 card to work (3D) under breezey?
[09:47] <humbraro> worked fine with hoary
[09:48] <spanglesontoast> depends which one heh
[09:48] <spanglesontoast> I used have one of those
[09:48] <nikos> humraro: have you editer your xorg.cong file?
[09:48] <nikos> xorg.conf
[09:48] <MonoJ0ker> ok so it connects
[09:48] <MonoJ0ker> and the screen is blank
[09:49] <MonoJ0ker> i only have one session running
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> yeah, but you probably have X running also
[09:49] <humbraro> nikos: yup - loads drm, dri, got the dri chmod 0666 thing in there - i've been through several distros with this card and all of them worked, until i upgraded to breezy
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> which takes hostname:0
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> then your vnc server (first one) was on hostname:1
[09:49] <khaled> nikos, i have not used any graphics intensive app...  i have a sis card.. ofcourse no 3d support
[09:49] <MonoJ0ker> i'm connecting into :1
[09:49] <GnarlyBob> then you started it again, it got hostname:2, and you killed one, unknown which
[09:49] <MonoJ0ker> should i just try 0,1,etc
[09:50] <GnarlyBob> well, if X is running (gnome, kde, whatever) it'll be on :0
[09:50] <MonoJ0ker> and that's my current session?
[09:50] <GnarlyBob> so vnc will be available on :1 for the first connection, :2 for the second, etc
[09:50] <MonoJ0ker> hang on brb
[09:50] <nikos> humbraro: does the xserver start
[09:50] <nikos> ?
[09:51] <spanglesontoast> anyways I gotta restart
[09:51] <spanglesontoast> might hop back in cheers for helping me use my brains....
[09:51] <GnarlyBob> that's such a windows concept :p
[09:51] <FlannelKing> Anyone know why (with apache2) a <location> (that activates web_dav) would overrule a mod_rewrite of that directory?
[09:51] <humbraro> http://pastebin.com/483882
[09:52] <humbraro> nikos: yup, just no 3d accel
[09:52] <MonoJ0ker> i can't connect to :0,:2 or :3
[09:52] <MonoJ0ker> only :1
[09:52] <MonoJ0ker> and the screen is blank - like the one that loads before the background does
[09:52] <humbraro> nikos: and i just noticed that i'm set up for 24 bit color - ima change that to 16 where it should be and be right back
[09:53] <MonoJ0ker> i'll just restart and try again
[09:53] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: :1 is the only one that is listening
[09:56] <humbraro> nope, 16 bit color and still 130 fps on glxgears
[09:59] <intelikey> rm /bin/sh
[10:00] <lexhider> I've installed lm-sensors to see if my power supply is the reason my system is crashing, what log files should I look at post crash to see if it is the culprit???
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> ok so from the top
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> fresh reboot
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> logon as me
[10:00] <MonoJ0ker> kommand - tightvncserver
[10:00] <epp> I am running a 800mhz celeron, what can i do to speed up linux?
[10:01] <MonoJ0ker> New 'X' desktop is ross:1
[10:01] <GnarlyBob> vnc client would point to ross:1 then
[10:01] <GnarlyBob> or <ip-address>:1
[10:01] <khaled> epp, user reiserfs as file system.. or may be even xfs
[10:01] <khaled> s/user/use
[10:01] <epp> khaled, how would i do that?
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> yeah and i get a blank screen with a konsole showing
[10:02] <GnarlyBob> ext3 is faster than either of those in my experience, and in any case, that would not give any noticeable performance increase
[10:02] <khaled> epp, cause those are faster than ext3
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> and it's not hte console i just typed into
[10:02] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: it shouldn't be
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> wtf is going on?
[10:02] <intelikey> epp kill everything but console  sure speeds up a pinguin
[10:02] <GnarlyBob> you've got a VNC session open
[10:02] <MonoJ0ker> yeah only problem is it's not into this session
[10:02] <khaled> GnarlyBob, xfs does a lot of caching and i do find a difference
[10:02] <epp> How would i do all of these things?
[10:02] <Madpilot> lexhider: I'm don't know if lm-sensors logs everything by default, but it will show voltages if your mobo sensors support that
[10:03] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: right, that's standard
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> it is?
[10:03] <GnarlyBob> for a unix-based server, yes
[10:03] <khaled> epp, how much ram do you have installed?
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> so... i can't use it to control THIS session then
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> or get access to the applications or anything
[10:03] <MonoJ0ker> just a konsole
[10:03] <GnarlyBob> multiple people connecting to one unix machine from several clients (xterminals) is old-school, they decided to keep with the tradition when they did vnc
[10:03] <epp> 512... but i have 256k more i can put in... but its not same brand.
[10:04] <GnarlyBob> I think if you mouse around, you should have access to your menus and such
[10:04] <johnw> replaced vid card and monitor.  X11 doesn't work now.  Have driver for new card on floppy.    Help!!!
[10:04] <johnw> how do I uninstall drivers as well?
[10:05] <lexhider> Madpilot, thanks, which log files should I look for, and what kind of info?
[10:05] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: I believe there are vnc server alternatives that will let you vnc into an already-running X session
[10:05] <GnarlyBob> not sure though
[10:05] <khaled> epp, you could get a lighter window manager.. like xfce4
[10:05] <epp> yeah... but i dont like the interface...
[10:05] <MonoJ0ker> no access to anything but a blank screen
[10:05] <MonoJ0ker> that's next to useless
[10:06] <maskd> im so happy with ubuntu, theres finally a dark theme that i can use
[10:06] <epp> im installing kubuntu right now
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> windows it is for me
[10:06] <GnarlyBob> MonoJ0ker: that's something that can be fixed
[10:06] <humbraro> maskd: what theme is that?
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> thanks for the help all but it's just a pita
[10:06] <GnarlyBob> try mousing around off the edge
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> special thanks to GnarlyBob for his patience andhelp
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> but obviously linux ain't for me
[10:06] <khaled> epp, oh.. if you are installing it now, then choose reiserfs as the file system..
[10:06] <MonoJ0ker> cheers guys
[10:06] <GnarlyBob> epp: kubuntu will be slower than regular ubuntu
[10:06] <dabaR> MonoJ0ker: give yourself time...
[10:06] <johnw> ack, how do I uninstall drivers?
[10:06] <maskd> humbraro: marble-look with clearbooks window border and human icons
[10:07] <epp> no... i am getting it from apt.
[10:07] <MonoJ0ker> lol dabaR  it's taken 3 hours just to get a vnc server working and now it is useless
[10:07] <MonoJ0ker> under windows i could have done it in 30 seconds and i know it would have worked
[10:07] <GnarlyBob> and there is no reason to install reiser for the regular end-user, and having people start off by choosing anything other than defaults is just asking for trouble, unless there is a good reason
[10:07] <epp> but i dont like gnome interface...
[10:07] <humbraro> maskd: did you get it at gnome-look.org?
[10:07] <dabaR> MonoJ0ker: no, I mean, like a week, or a year.
[10:07] <maskd> humbraro: http://art.gnome.oprg
[10:07] <maskd> humbraro: http://art.gnome.org
[10:08] <callie> ok i recently did an update via adept and i remember some kernel header updates being part of it now i cant boot into ubuntu it appears that getty is missing :( any ideas?
[10:08] <MonoJ0ker> nah all i wanted was to be able to run the linux session in vnc so i could use one monitor
[10:08] <maskd> i personally think the ones from there look cleaner
[10:08] <GnarlyBob> http://www.lynucs.org/ for some nice screenshots and ideas :)
[10:08] <MonoJ0ker> now ifind that isn't possible it's back to a single os for me
[10:08] <MonoJ0ker> later all
[10:08] <Madpilot> lexhider: I'm not sure - I run lm-sensors, but I've never loooked into what logs it keeps
[10:08] <dabaR> callie: idea: get the exact error when asking for help
[10:08] <epp> so what could i do to speed kubuntu up?
[10:08] <intelikey> how do you get rid of these damned icons on the desktop in gnome.
[10:08] <intelikey> ?
[10:08] <maskd> jeez Monoj0ker didnt feel like learning
[10:08] <maskd> intelikey: what icons?
[10:08] <maskd> the mounted drives?
[10:09] <Madpilot> intelikey: there's an option somewhere in gconf
[10:09] <dabaR> maskd: and like, he wants everything in one evening...
[10:09] <intelikey> all of them
[10:09] <dabaR> intelikey: you can even turn off the desktop, to not show anything on it.
[10:09] <Madpilot> intelikey: Applications menu - System Tools - Configuration
[10:09] <epp> oh and my video card sucks so bad it doesnt do 3-d. what can i do to make it do 3d stuff?
[10:09] <humbraro> maskd: nice :)
[10:09] <GnarlyBob> intellikey: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[10:09] <dabaR> intelikey: ya, and then apps>nautilus>desktop>use desktop
[10:10] <maskd> thanks humbraro, it's taken me aaages to find a nice dark theme
[10:10] <GnarlyBob> er Configuration Editor
[10:10] <maskd> soo much easier on the eyes
[10:10] <Madpilot> epp: buy a new one? :P
[10:10] <humbraro> yup
[10:10] <maskd> epp: you can't make a non 3d card do 3d things
[10:10] <GnarlyBob> apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[10:10] <intelikey> k
[10:10] <callie> dabaR: i dont have the exact error because the system wont boot, if that makes sense
[10:10] <GnarlyBob> deselect the checkboxes on the right side.
[10:10] <intelikey> looking
[10:10] <khaled> epp, /j #kahakai
[10:10] <epp> i could with software emulation in windows.
[10:10] <dabaR> callie: kinda, but you have a pen...
[10:11] <khaled> epp, sorry
[10:11] <epp> khaled, hu?
[10:11] <humbraro> maskd: funny, ubuntu has made me lazy cause its so polished - i don't tinker around with things as much anymore
[10:11] <callie> dabaR: pen? whats that? lol
[10:11] <Madpilot> lexhider: if you search Synaptic for sensors, there's a package called "sensord" which is a logging daemon - you might want to look at that
[10:11] <GnarlyBob> I switched to ubuntu with the hope of not tinkering around any more, but it's not worked out that way *at all*
[10:12] <Cybercool> hello
[10:12] <dabaR> GnarlyBob: switched from what?
[10:12] <maskd> humbraro: yeah i know, i havent tinkered with the layout of anything, just the colours, i hated that brown =/
[10:12] <GnarlyBob> dabaR: many many different distributions
[10:12] <GnarlyBob> most recently, gentoo
[10:12] <callie> dabaR: its something like this "could not execute 'getty'" with "ID x: spawning too fast" messages
[10:12] <lexhider> Madpilot, thanks, will give it a try
[10:13] <humbraro> after 'drake, then slack, then gentoo, then this, its much easier to get along
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> my first distribution was SLS
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> in 1993.
[10:13] <dabaR> callie: probably will not be able to find a fix very quick. how much ram does the computer have?
[10:13] <Cybercool> i have a problem on my  other computer, i can't login on my  ubuntu. GDM can't write auhorization file. So i wanted to login on a terminal so i can remove some files, but it doesn't prompt anything. Can anybody help?
[10:13] <callie> dabaR: 512mb
[10:13] <epp> humbraro, i heard gentoo is way nice.
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> then slackware for several years, then debian, red hat, suse, gentoo
[10:13] <GnarlyBob> gentoo is for tinkerers
[10:13] <dabaR> callie: use the live CD til you find an answer, and google with the exact error.
[10:14] <humbraro> epp: gentoo has its place in the world, its for control freaks and masochists
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> my server is still running gentoo
[10:14] <dabaR> Cybercool: anything saying XAuthority?
[10:14] <callie> dabaR: looks like thats the only solution for now
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> and based upon the MAJOR trouble I had getting ubuntu up and running, it might stay that way
[10:14] <epp> but i heard its the fastest for slow comps.
[10:14] <Cybercool> dabaR, no
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> epp: that could very well be true
[10:14] <GnarlyBob> if any is faster for that, it would certainly be gentoo
[10:15] <GnarlyBob> since it does permit you to optimize things in a very fine-grained way
[10:15] <epp> GnarlyBob, but then again, i dont even know enough to ever get it installed.
[10:15] <humbraro> epp: this ubuntu install is on a PIII733/256, and runs fine
[10:15] <Cybercool> dabaR: it starts, go's to the login screen, and then i get the message. And pressing ok goes back to the login screen
[10:15] <GnarlyBob> epp: gentoo's documentation is the best there is, hands-down
[10:15] <GnarlyBob> beats ubuntu's by a country mile, even.
[10:15] <dabaR> Cybercool: but then when you enter user name and password it gives you that error?
[10:15] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: amen to gentoo's docs
[10:15] <Cybercool> dabar: And when i press ctrl alt F1, i only see a flashing stripe
[10:16] <khaled> epp, by the time you compile all the packages to optimize them, you will be tried of gentoo
[10:16] <dabaR> Cybercool: same for f2, f3, and so on?
[10:16] <Cybercool> dabaR: yes could not write authorization file, harddisk could be full!
[10:16] <maskd> does anybody else use 1 program open per workspace? just fullscreened
[10:16] <GnarlyBob> gentoo seems like it was founded with the intent of getting complete utter computer newbies to be hardcore linux freaks
[10:16] <dabaR> Cybercool: no other consoles can be logged into? do you have a live CD?
[10:17] <Cybercool> dabaR: de last time i checked every F key, i'll try again for every F key, and maybe i see an error
[10:17] <dabaR> Cybercool: are you sure the disk is not full?
[10:17] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: no kidding, but i never had any trouble with it - the install instructions could have been a script and everything would have went perfectly
[10:17] <mwright1night> hello
[10:18] <mwright1night> can someone help me wth a problem
[10:18] <GnarlyBob> humbraro: I never had any trouble with it either, I just got pretty tired of having my machine become lagged for X minutes/hours every day with compiling updates
[10:18] <maskd> mwright1night: whats the problem?
[10:18] <thoeger> Hi there - GDesklets kills my X.org. Not any specific desklet - the app itself. It worked fine for a couple of days on my newly installed breezy ppc. Any idea why?
[10:18] <tjb13> anyone in here know how to get sleep working on a thinkpad
[10:19] <intelikey> humbraro when i find one like that, i make a script out of it, and save for later.
[10:19] <GnarlyBob> thoeger: any errors in .xsession-errors in your home directory?
[10:19] <thoeger> mwright1night, bring it on!
[10:19] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: yup, i did a stage-1 install on a 233mhz machine and it took over a week before i saw xfce
[10:19] <thoeger> GnarlyBob: I'll check...
[10:19] <GnarlyBob> heh, I always did stage 1 too
[10:19] <mwright1night> just got 344 packages not upgraded on Mepis
[10:20] <mwright1night> I am remoted into my friends box -- I run Redhat and ubuntu myself  only have 1 pure debian box
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> but I was building my linux boxen from scratch 10+ years ago too, so this stuff is all fluff, in a way
[10:20] <mwright1night> but as mepis has stuff all user base thats why I was asking here
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> I *hate* debian
[10:20] <spanglesontoast> ok back got problems with the fglrx driver
[10:20] <Cybercool> dabaR: are you still there?
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> with the passion of the burning sun
[10:20] <dabaR> df
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> but I really wanted to give ubuntu a fair shake
[10:20] <spanglesontoast> how can I check if it's actually running?
[10:20] <Cybercool> dabaR: the system when off, no battery!
[10:20] <GnarlyBob> spanglesontoast: lsmod
[10:20] <mwright1night> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 344 not upgraded.
[10:20] <maskd> GnarlyBob: whats wrong with debian? i found the .deb packaging system great
[10:20] <mwright1night> when doing an apt-get upgrade
[10:20] <intelikey> GnarlyBob but it is deb....
[10:20] <maskd> it's what turned me to ubuntu
[10:21] <tjb13> maskd dpkg is horrendus
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> maskd: the politics, first and foremost - and apt is horrendous
[10:21] <mwright1night> this is on my friends mepis 3.3 box 2.6.10 kernel  (unstable)
[10:21] <dabaR> Cybercool: find out whether the disk is really full.
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> apt/dpkg whatever
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> it's nasty
[10:21] <Cybercool> dabaR: how?
[10:21] <spanglesontoast> ty
[10:21] <GnarlyBob> I think everyone should use portage :D
[10:21] <mwright1night> I want to bring him up to mepis 3.4 in a week then migrate him to the April release of kubuntu
[10:21] <tjb13> gentoo owns
[10:21] <tjb13> and i just started using ubuntu
[10:21] <spanglesontoast> yea it says it's running
[10:21] <mwright1night> he is 65 and rather hopeless with computers
[10:21] <spanglesontoast> odd
[10:21] <thoeger> mwright1night: can't see right away what should be wrong...
[10:21] <mwright1night> so didn't want to change hinm in a hurry
[10:21] <khaled> spanglesontoast, lsmod ? is it a module ?
[10:21] <tjb13> its great, don't have to wait for shit to xcompile
[10:21] <tjb13> pr0n even downloads fastar
[10:21] <mwright1night> i just did an apt-get upgrade and all these packages are held back
[10:22] <spanglesontoast> I think
[10:22] <dabaR> Cybercool: use a live cd if you can not boot into it. once inside the live session, mount your hard disk, and check it with "df -h"
[10:22] <GnarlyBob> well yeah, that's about the only reason I am trying ubuntu instead of going gentoo again... I just don't have the time to tweak
[10:22] <maskd> GnarlyBob: whats the best packaging system?
[10:22] <Cybercool> dabaR: i don't have a live cd
[10:22] <GnarlyBob> maskd: portage
[10:22] <dabaR> Cybercool: good time to get one.
[10:22] <Cybercool> dabaR: is there an other way
[10:22] <GnarlyBob> (a matter of opinion, of course)
[10:22] <dabaR> Cybercool: I do not have other ideas.
[10:23] <humbraro> bsd ports - hands down
[10:23] <maskd> GnarlyBob: that is used in gentoo isnt it?
[10:23] <GnarlyBob> maskd: yes
[10:23] <tjb13> maskd yes
[10:23] <GnarlyBob> humbraro: portage is based on ports
[10:23] <humbraro> GnarlyBob: yup, i know]
[10:23] <tjb13> anyone know how to get sleep working
[10:23] <GnarlyBob> it takes the idea of ports, and builds on it, imho making it much more flexible
[10:23] <Cybercool> dabaR: i found an old live cd from 4.10 that will work also
[10:23] <Cybercool> dabaR: i'm going to try now, wish me luck :S
[10:24] <intelikey> tjb13 yes   mount /head /pillow ;renice brain
[10:24] <thoeger> tjb13 yes, go to bed... ;-)
[10:24] <thoeger> damn too slow
[10:25] <maskd> hey whats the cmd to take a screenshot?
[10:25] <intelikey> well i just borked nautilus.
[10:25] <thoeger> maskd: what's your desktop env.?
[10:25] <intelikey>  system / take a screene ?
[10:26] <maskd> thoeger: gnome
[10:26] <zakame> the print screen key
[10:26] <maskd> oh that works in gnome?
[10:26] <maskd> i wonder if alt+print screen works to print only the active window
[10:27] <thoeger> maskd: you can configure it in Desktop Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts...
[10:27] <dabaR> Cybercool: good luckl
[10:27] <thoeger> maskd: But be careful; I accidentally disabled my space key a couple of days ago - annoying!
[10:28] <maskd> thoeger: bugger, it's cool though i dont go near the space key in hotkeys
[10:28] <intelikey> or is it  action > take a screeny
[10:29] <nxnxmox> hey
[10:29] <nxnxmox> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:29] <thoeger> maskd: it was easy to go back and put right, but darn....
[10:29] <nxnxmox> Anyone know hot to fix this?
[10:29] <thoeger> nxnxmox: You got the right library installed?
[10:29] <dodoria> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:29] <dodoria>  |||| Lame is instaled ||| I converted the lame.rpm >> lame.deb and installed
[10:29] <dodoria> xD
[10:30] <nxnxmox> what does this mean
[10:30] <nxnxmox> oh wait
[10:30] <dodoria> xP
[10:30] <nxnxmox> nevermind -- first time linux user here :p
[10:30] <neo369> gibs hir a deutsch sprachige leute ?
[10:31] <dodoria> help-me please
[10:31] <dodoria>  |||| Lame is instaled ||| I converted the lame.rpm >> lame.deb and installed
[10:31] <athlon> neo369, versuch man #ubuntu-de
[10:31] <Cybercool> dabaR: i removed some files, no i'm restarting, hope it works
[10:31] <dodoria> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:31] <dodoria> x~
[10:31] <athlon> mal*
[10:31] <intelikey> yuch!  the gnome terminal is white.....
[10:31] <neo369> ok i mach mr danke
[10:31] <polpak> intelikey: so change it
[10:31] <intelikey> i will
[10:31] <polpak> intelikey: =p
[10:32] <Cybercool> dabaR: i can login!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH
[10:32] <Cybercool> thanks
[10:32] <polpak> dodoria: why not install the lame codec from the ubuntu repos?
[10:34] <Madpilot> intelikey: you can change all sorts of display options in gnome terminal...
[10:34] <dodoria> polpak, He no search the packets
[10:34] <polpak> Madpilot: he knows.. he's just complaining =p
[10:34] <Madpilot> polpak: ah, OK :P
[10:34] <intelikey> Madpilot yes i see that, almost a configurable as konsole isn't it.
[10:35] <polpak> dodoria: better yet.. just read the restricted formats wiki?
[10:35] <johnw> I'm switching to gentoo for AM64
[10:35] <Madpilot> intelikey: never used konsole - that's KDE's terminal app?
[10:35] <johnw> AMD64
[10:35] <polpak> ubotu tell dodoria about restricted
[10:35] <johnw> the wave of the future!
[10:35] <intelikey> yes
[10:36] <intelikey> yes and the reason i made the compairison Madpilot, it looks like they both stole the same code on the same day.
[10:37] <Madpilot> intelikey: proof that the gnome terminal doesn't have to be white: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/gnome-term.png :)
[10:37] <intelikey> minse not.
[10:37] <Madpilot> intelikey: it's not stealing if it's GPL'd, remember :P
[10:37] <intelikey> oh yeah.....
[10:37] <maskd> intelikey: it's good if their similar, it means less of a learning curve when going between the 2
[10:38] <humbraro> anybody else have gdesklets eating up all their cpu time?
[10:38] <polpak> Madpilot: you can, but only if you claim it's yours and/or close it
[10:38] <thoeger> GnarlyBob: About my x.org crashing when I start the gdesklets app....
[10:38] <Belutz> hmm, what's the command to see package information from the console?
[10:38] <Madpilot> polpak: yeah, OK, but you know what I mean
[10:39] <polpak> Madpilot: yep
[10:39] <sampan> belutz  apt-cache show package.name
[10:39] <Belutz> sampan, thanks
[10:39] <intelikey> maskd to each his own.   i realize there is only so many things you can do with crt  but the more something resembles M$ Windows (R)  the less i like it.
[10:39] <sampan> np
[10:39] <thoeger> GnarlyBob: ... just read my .xsession-errors but I must confess it makes littles ense to me...
[10:40] <maskd> intelikey: wait wait, aren't we comparing konsole and gnome-terminal
[10:40] <intelikey> yes
[10:40] <maskd> MS-DOS prompt isn't anywhere near as customizable...
[10:41] <intelikey> i know  :)
[10:41] <maskd> so where did the windows comment come from? :P
[10:41] <spanglesontoast> anyone?
[10:41] <Madpilot> I was messing with .bashrc last week - you can do some cool things in terminal/console
[10:41] <intelikey> from the learing curve comment.... just expanded it to the ubuntu mintality
[10:41] <Fanskapet> 4DOS istheshit.net :)
[10:42] <Fanskapet> or 4NT for windows.
[10:42] <intelikey> yessir Madpilot
[10:42] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: anyone 4 what?
[10:42] <kimkola> how do i find out which distro i am running ?
[10:42] <intelikey> uname -r
[10:43] <spanglesontoast> well I've got issues with the fglrx
[10:43] <spanglesontoast> driver
[10:43] <cafuego> kimkola: cat /etc/motd
[10:43] <intelikey> or uname -a  if you like lots of info
[10:43] <cafuego> kimkola: That usually mentions what you're on.
[10:43] <thoeger> kimkola + intelikey: That will tell the kernel, not the distro...
[10:43] <intelikey> cafuego on all my boxes that returns nothing
[10:44] <maskd> kimkola: you should know what distro you are running, if you installed it..
[10:44] <cafuego> intelikey: Then you must have emptoed motd.
[10:44] <kimkola> yea it is only giving me info on kernel etc,
[10:44] <tjb13> cafuego are you a gentoo convert aswell
[10:44] <cafuego> tjb13: No, I am not retarded.
[10:44] <tjb13> hhaha
[10:44] <intelikey> only on the ubuntu install cafuego the rest were empty by default.
[10:44] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: Well, throw it into the pool and hope for someone 2 catch it :-)
[10:45] <kimkola> acutally i did not installed it, and i have to figure out apache on it, so was looking for rpm's for it, then i thought i dont know what distro it is :
[10:45] <intelikey> and kernel info is usually enough to tell the distro also
[10:45] <maskd> how to you modify the motd?
[10:45] <maskd> sudo gedit /etc/motd?
[10:45] <intelikey> edit /etc/motd
[10:45] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: Not sure I can help you though...
[10:46] <munzir> hi sirs, how should I proceed to install dapper? may be I can download a nighty dvd but I am afraid it won't install and then I was left clueless
[10:46] <cafuego> intelikey: Naughty.
[10:46] <intelikey> unless the packagers put a line in one of the init scripts that rewrites it each boot....
[10:46] <intelikey> ?
[10:46] <cafuego> intelikey: That's not normally the case, it wouldn't get rewritten anyway.
[10:46] <thoeger> Okay folks I'll throw it out again: Anyone might have an idea why gdesklets mkes X go bye-bye?
[10:46] <cafuego> intelikey: /etc/issue might contain info as well, though.
[10:47] <thoeger> Stellarium does the same thing...
[10:47] <spanglesontoast> well at the moment I Have like very high brightness with it set to the fglrx in the xorg
[10:47] <intelikey> cafuego ???  "it wouldn't get rewritten anyway."   what you smoking ?
[10:47] <alphabet[afk] > hrm
[10:47] <Madpilot> munzir: Dapper is still in heavy development, and will break things - keep running Breezy unless you want to break things...
[10:47] <alphabet[afk] > i just did apt-get upgrade
[10:47] <cafuego> intelikey: motd doesn't get rewritten on bootup
[10:48] <alphabet[afk] > and like 20 apps just got held back
[10:48] <cafuego> intelikey: (on normal distros)
[10:48] <peza> for /etc/motd you will need to edit /etc/default/rcS to prevent your changes being overwritten every boot
[10:48] <thoeger> spanglesontoast: Have you always had that problem or has it come recently?
[10:48] <_ian_> anyone here folding?
[10:48] <intelikey> on breezy it doesn't  on one system i have here it does and so does issue and issue.net
[10:49] <spanglesontoast> since I changed to the fglrx driver
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > The following packages have been kept back:
[10:49] <munzir> Madpilot: yes I want to take it as a new experience. I already have Breezy installed and I loved it very much
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > libapache-mod-php4 libapache2-mod-php4 linux-image-386
[10:49] <intelikey> but i fix that cause i don't like any crap on my login screen/s
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > linux-restricted-modules-386 php4 php4-cgi php4-cli php4-common php4-curl
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > php4-dev php4-domxml php4-gd php4-ldap php4-mcal php4-mhash php4-mysql
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > php4-odbc php4-pgsql php4-recode php4-snmp php4-sybase php4-xslt
[10:49] <alphabet[afk] > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 22 not upgraded.
[10:49] <cafuego> Tssk. naughty Ubuntu.
[10:49] <GTroy> I hate to ask, but I lose wifi after a few hours online, never happened before....
[10:50] <_ian_> spanglesontoast what ati card you have?
[10:50] <alphabet`> any dea why that happens?
[10:50] <spanglesontoast> ati radeon 9200
[10:50] <alphabet`> (the apt-get update error)
[10:50] <_ian_> i see...
[10:50] <cafuego> alphabet`: Feel free to not spam.
[10:50] <alphabet`> sorry
[10:50] <alphabet`> i tried to paste it one line
[10:50] <cafuego> alphabet`: Don't paste AT ALL here.
[10:50] <alphabet`> got it.
[10:51] <e-fonz> any one got experience with rar?
[10:51] <cafuego> alphabet`: Anyway, package can be held back if another package they depend on isn't yet available in the correct version.
[10:51] <GTroy> e-fonz yeah
[10:51] <thoeger> e-fonz... a bit
[10:51] <alphabet`> okay, so why would php4 be held back then?
[10:51] <alphabet`> all of those depend on php4
[10:52] <cafuego> alphabet`: ... installing the new version would cause an unsatisfied depend.
[10:52] <spanglesontoast> hmm does the fglrx driver already compiled cos I know theres a driver you can compile from source...?
[10:52] <e-fonz> Trying to unpack rar files.....but they are named with () i replaced the () with %28 and %29, but rar cannot find the files
[10:52] <cafuego> alphabet`: Try forcefully installing it, see what breaks: that's what's causing it ;-)
[10:52] <alphabet`> haha, i'll just wait then.
[10:52] <alphabet`> i'm not spending another 4 hours formatting
[10:52] <cafuego> e-fonz: replace ( with \( or just put the whole filename in quotes.
[10:52] <cafuego> alphabet`: Prolly be sorted in a few hours.
[10:53] <alphabet`> cafuego: actually its been like that for the past two weeks
[10:53] <e-fonz> "FooFighters(6Albums).part01.rar" like this?
[10:53] <intelikey> and gnome terminal doesn't read in the bashrc and profile   arrrrr
[10:53] <cafuego> alphabet`: Hmm. Running a 'dist-upgrade; or just an 'upgrade' ?
[10:53] <mwright1night> anyone know where I can get Freenx debs from?
[10:53] <alphabet`> i first did
[10:53] <alphabet`> apt-get update, then i did apt-get upgrade
[10:53] <cafuego> alphabet`: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:53] <alphabet`> dist upgrade?
[10:54] <jlund> Has anyone had any luck getting suspend/hibernate to work on an Asus a8n-e motherboard? If I do the logout hibernate option the system goes partially down and my screen doesn't display anything but everything is still on (fans etc.) and it won't wake back up.
[10:54] <alphabet`> i'm already on breezy
[10:54] <cafuego> alphabet`: They're held back because a NEW package is needed. 'upgrade' cannot puill that in. 'dist-upgrade' can (and will).
[10:54] <alphabet`> ah, i'll try
[10:54] <morphix> hmm.. i changed my system from p2 to a p3.. new mobo, etc, etc.. the system works.. except during boot i get a few IRQ errors(since the hardware has changed).. and network is down.. how do i reconfigure the hardware?
[10:54] <Madpilot> jlund: is that a laptop mobo or desktop?
[10:54] <jlund> Desktop
[10:55] <e-fonz>  Thanks guys after, 1 hr. of goofing swearing as a noob it finally works!
[10:55] <alphabet`> its gonan install a new linux image, and then upgrade those
[10:55] <cafuego> e-fonz: For future reference:
[10:55] <cafuego> e-fonz: unrar e Foo<tab>
[10:55] <thoeger> spanglesontoast - dunno what causes your problem, sorry...
[10:55] <GTroy> hmmm having a netgear usb drop connection after a while....any help?
[10:55] <spanglesontoast> ok
[10:55] <_ian_> where can i get new themes for ubuntu?
[10:55] <BjornW> hi, can somebody tell me how to add icons to any application launcher. Somehow I cannot select any icons except for the default ones
[10:55] <cafuego> e-fonz: The tab key will autocomplete the filename and escape any special characters
[10:56] <cafuego> _ian_: art.ubuntu.com
[10:56] <intelikey> hmmm it really did break nautilus when i did a 'rm -rf ~/Desktop ;ln -s /dev/null ~/Desktop '    i wonder why ???
[10:56] <e-fonz> cafuego: Wow thanks, just installed ubuntu one week ago, and learned a lot!
[10:56] <cafuego> intelikey: user error.
[10:56] <cafuego> e-fonz: tab completion is your friend. Works on all files (and commands)
[10:57] <thoeger> spanglesontoast - but synaptics tells me that fglrx is binary-only, so I don't think not having compiled causes your problem :-)
[10:57] <jlund> Is it even possible to get hibernate to work on a desktop machine? I haven't seen my in the forums about it.
[10:57] <intelikey> programmer error.  they've fot Desktop hard-coded into naut
[10:57] <_ian_> thnx
[10:57] <intelikey> :)
[10:57] <spanglesontoast> ah so it is actually a proper kernel module thingy
[10:57] <Hoxzer_> jlund: would you cry for hapiness if I'd fuck you decently?
[10:57] <mwright1night> does anyone here use FreeNX?
[10:57] <cafuego> e-fonz: You can enable even more completion by enabling the bottom few files in /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:57] <encompass> I have just installed a camera, it looks like it detect it properly but what is the best way to test this device?
[10:58] <BjornW> anyone got some experiences with adding icons to an application launcher?
[10:58] <thoeger> Okay, my problem with x dieing is still valid...
[10:58] <e-fonz> cafuego: not too much at once ;)
[10:58] <MrSkalman> BjornW, prova Gnomemeeting
[10:58] <jlund> Hoxzer_: WTF
[10:58] <cafuego> e-fonz: Doing that can autocomplete command loine params to the package tools. very useful :-)
[10:58] <BjornW> MrSkalman: I don't understand..
[10:59] <encompass> I tried using the multimedia systems selector and my computer locked... any ideas?
[10:59] <MrSkalman> use Gnomemeeting to test cam
[10:59] <encompass> it was when I tried to test the camera
[10:59] <encompass> ok sure
[10:59] <kalif> anybody with knowledge on softwareraid?
[10:59] <cafuego> Hoxzer_: Can you go to the web and read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?
[10:59] <intelikey> cafuego with bash-completion on or even off ?
[10:59] <thoeger> ...but got another one: At gnome login I get a warning that My .dmrc has got the wrong ownership and permissions.... But when I do a ls-l they seem perfectly right... ???
[10:59] <cafuego> jlund: If the hardware isn't broken, it should hibernate just fine.
[10:59] <e-fonz> cafuego: thanks wrote it all down! gonna goof around with it!
[10:59] <Hoxzer_> cafuego: I might but I might not
[10:59] <cafuego> intelikey: on
[11:00] <_ian_> cafyuego which of the themes do i need ? is it window border?
[11:00] <cafuego> _ian_: Why not try all? :-)
[11:00] <thoeger> MrSkalman: Inte alla hr frstr deg... ;)
[11:00] <intelikey> yeah i like bash-completion, but i didn't think that would work unless you turn it on.
[11:00] <_ian_> hehe
[11:00] <Toma-> anyone know how to apply a diff patch file?
[11:00] <jlund> cafuego: Do any logs get written anywhere upon suspend? It would be helpful to see what is going wrong.
[11:00] <MrSkalman> thoeger, Mrkte det :)
[11:00] <Toma-> i always thought -p1 worked from the directory above it?
[11:00] <weekang> hi, i'm having trouble getting skype to work on breezy
[11:01] <cafuego> intelikey: You can enable it in /etc/bash.bashrc (that includes /etc/bash_completion)
[11:01] <kalif> I need som device explanation from /proc/mdstat. what is device dm-11 and dm-12
[11:01] <Bjoern-Erik> Can anyone tell me how to disable automount of CD-ROMs in KDE?
[11:01] <cafuego> Toma-: if the patch isn't broken...
[11:01] <gerald-volt> is firefox 1.5 on the repositories?
[11:01] <cafuego> !firefox1.5
[11:01] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:01] <intelikey> yeah or source it from ./.bashrc  :)
[11:01] <GTroy> anyone know what to do when your wifi drops, and activating it again doesn't work?
[11:01] <thoeger> gerald-volt: No...
[11:01] <munzir> Sirs, where can I find the plugin that let gaim speak paltalk and google talk
[11:01] <thoeger> darn, too slow again
[11:01] <carelezz> !firefox1.5
[11:01] <cafuego> jlund: Probably /va/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log
[11:02] <carelezz> !touch
[11:02] <ubotu> carelezz: Are you smoking crack?
[11:02] <cafuego> jlund: Is your swap partition larger then your ram size?
[11:02] <weekang> can someone help me with skype?  "skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>); however:
[11:02] <weekang>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[11:02] <weekang> "
[11:02] <gerald-volt> how do icheck my kernel version
[11:02] <cafuego> gerald-volt: 'uname -r'
[11:03] <cafuego> weekang: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[11:03] <jlund> cafuego: Yes
[11:03] <weekang> ok i'll try
[11:03] <weekang> thx
[11:03] <thoeger> Any PPC Users in here?
[11:03] <cafuego> thoeger: yes
[11:03] <e-fonz> cafuego: Thanks again, i'll be back!
[11:04] <thoeger> cafuego: It should be possible to enable SideTrack-style trackpad scrolling on an iBook - got any experiance with that?
[11:04] <alphabet`> cafuego: thanks it all worked perfectly.
[11:05] <cafuego> thoeger: No... not running Linux on the iBook until I can get airport extreme to work.
[11:05] <weekang> cafuego: u mean i should 'sudo apt-get -f install libqt3c102-mt' ?
[11:05] <_ian_> bye
[11:05] <thoeger> cafuego: I see - it was worth a shot though...
[11:05] <cafuego> weekang: No, juist 'sudo apt-get -f install' should pull it in.
[11:07] <thoeger> anyone to hwom an .xsession-errors file isn't gibberish?
[11:07] <weekang> cafuego: no it didn't
[11:07] <cafuego> thoeger: put it on the pastebin
[11:07] <weekang> cafuego: it removed skype
[11:07] <morphix> i changed my system from p2 to a p3.. new mobo, etc, etc.. the system works.. except during boot i get a few IRQ errors(since the hardware has changed).. and network is down.. how do i reconfigure the hardware?
[11:07] <cafuego> weekang: Ok, just 'sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt' then.
[11:07] <thoeger> cafuego - pastebin?
[11:07] <cafuego> weekang: D'oh :-)
[11:07] <cafuego> !paste
[11:07] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:07] <thoeger> (new to IRC )
[11:07] <intelikey> pour water on it cafuego quickly  8-{
[11:07] <spanglesontoast> how would I resize my ubuntu partition
[11:08] <vbhanu> when i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed
[11:08] <spanglesontoast> if my whole distro is just on one partition like /
[11:08] <morphix> qtparted
[11:08] <vbhanu> how can i solve this
[11:08] <weekang> cafuego: that didn't work either
[11:08] <cafuego> weekang: What error?
[11:08] <morphix> spanglesontoast qtparted
[11:08] <intelikey> spanglesontoast don't,  just add another partition to it.
[11:08] <weekang> Package libqt3c102-mt is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:08] <weekang> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:08] <weekang> is only available from another source
[11:08] <weekang> However the following packages replace it:
[11:08] <weekang>   libqt3-mt
[11:08] <spanglesontoast> so you can't in other words
[11:09] <weekang> and sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt tells me that it is already installed
[11:09] <cafuego> Typical.
[11:09] <cafuego> weekang: You might be in for a treat with the 'equivs' package then.
[11:09] <weekang> ok cool
[11:09] <weekang> install?
[11:09] <cafuego> !info libqt3c102-mt
[11:09] <jlund> cafuego: Why did you ask if my swap size was bigger than my RAM in regards to my suspend issue?
[11:10] <cafuego> jlund: suspend would fail if it couldn't store the ram contents on disk (it dumps onto swap)
[11:10] <intelikey> jlund you can not dump ram to disk if the swap partition is smaller than the ram
[11:10] <cafuego> weekang: Yep. Install & read docs. You'll need to make a fake 'libqt3c102-mt' package using equivs.
[11:10] <jlund> cafuego: Ah, I see. I'm trying to suspend to ram though
[11:10] <cafuego> jlund: aaaahhhh...
[11:11] <maskd> omg im only using 1/5th of my total ram capacity
[11:11] <weekang> cafuego: ok cool thanks
[11:11] <zelevw> Hi guys...my OS is not working (ubuntu 5.10)..it complains: Read-only file system...nothing runs
[11:11] <zelevw> any help is greatly appreciated
[11:11] <ProN00b> i need a dos rescue cd for flashing my bios, can anyone point me to some resources ?
[11:11] <maskd> zelevw: is that on boot?
[11:11] <cafuego> ProN00b: floppy ok?
[11:12] <zelevw> maskd: im in x now
[11:12] <vbhanu> when i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed, how can i solve this?
[11:12] <intelikey> maskd hmmm i'm using a bit more that that percent wise but i only have 64m
[11:12] <maskd> intelikey: hehe i have 1gb
[11:12] <ProN00b> nope, cafuego laptot got no floppy drive
[11:12] <zelevw> but if i tail -f /var/log/messages i can see the problem over and over
[11:12] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 14.9/61.1 MB (24%)
[11:12] <maskd> with windows i would be using damn near 800-1000mb of it
[11:12] <thoeger> cafuego: My xsession-errors is on wwww.fys.ku.dk/~thoeger/xsession-errors now...
[11:12] <cafuego> ProN00b: floppy image ok, that you can write to cd as boot sector?
[11:12] <zelevw> maskd: and when i reboot the shutdown of everything fails because of the read only file system
[11:13] <maskd> zelevw: what type of partition is it?
[11:13] <intelikey> i really like this distro....
[11:13] <zelevw> ext3
[11:13] <maskd> intelikey: which one?
[11:13] <cafuego> thoeger: just a moment...
[11:13] <intelikey> never you mind which.
[11:13] <maskd> intelikey: aww cmon tell me
[11:13] <maskd> zelevw: mmm
[11:13] <ProN00b> you mean i can burn a floppy immage to cd, cafuego, how ?
[11:13] <intelikey> no ......
[11:14] <cafuego> ProN00b: A bootable DOS cd uses a dos floppy image as boot sector on the cd. 'cdrecord' allows you to create them.
[11:14] <marccd> is it posible for my MTA (postfix) to require AUTH only on external users (meaning not in my local network?)
[11:14] <cafuego> ProN00b: I have a bootable floppy image, all you'd need to do is add the bios flasher to it, then burn as disc.
[11:14] <cafuego> marccd: yes.
[11:15] <sarah> hallo
[11:15] <thoeger> sarah: Hello
[11:15] <marccd> cafuego: where should I look for info?
[11:15] <cafuego> marccd: add the local network to mynetworks
[11:15] <cafuego> marccd: ... that should be all there is to it.
[11:15] <marccd> cafuego: oh, so its automatic?, cool
[11:15] <marccd> cafuego: thanks :D
[11:16] <maskd> zelevw: what does your fstab look like, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:16] <morphix> :/
[11:16] <cafuego> thoeger: looks like gbubiff isn't starting properly
[11:17] <Seveas> !poke
[11:17] <Seveas> mornin' all
[11:17] <GTroy> hello good sir
[11:17] <GnarlyBob> !peek
[11:17] <ubotu> GnarlyBob: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:17] <intelikey> yo
[11:17] <cafuego> Seveas: hey, do you need a mirror for your .deb repository?
[11:17] <maskd> good evening Seveas
[11:17] <Seveas> cafuego, mirrors are good :)
[11:17] <thoeger> cafuego: No, that's been a problem for some time - it shouldn't start at all actually. But thing is, gdesklets is my main suspect... it crashes my x totally
[11:18] <morphix> hmm..
[11:18] <cafuego> Seveas: I need to piss off and go drink now, but shall ask again in the new year. I have a Linode being mainly idle :-)
[11:18] <Seveas> cafuego, cheers, have fun with the booze :)
[11:18] <Seveas> rofl
[11:18] <ajmitch> cafuego: enjoy :)
[11:19] <cafuego> thoeger: I have to go.... but then, I don't know much about gdesklets. (Mine crasha ll the time, so i stopped using them)
[11:19] <Seveas> many desklets are utterly broken
[11:19] <Seveas> I downloaded a calculator desklet once
[11:19] <gerald-volt> if i'musing an athlonxp, should I use the linux k7 kernel?
[11:19] <Seveas> couldn't even calculate 1+1+1
[11:19] <thoeger> cafuego: thanx anyway -
[11:19] <maskd> is a desklet an equivalent to apple's widgets?
[11:19] <morphix> hmm
[11:19] <Seveas> gerald-volt, it would work
[11:20] <gerald-volt> would it be recommended
[11:20] <thoeger> Seveas: its not any specific desklet, it's the app itself
[11:20] <gerald-volt> cuz right now, I
[11:20] <gerald-volt> I am using 386
[11:20] <gerald-volt> kernel
[11:20] <Seveas> it might be a bit faster although I doubt it'll be noticable
[11:20] <gerald-volt> ic
[11:21] <ProN00b> cafuego, can you give me the commands you use ?
[11:21] <maskd> i thought you meant you're using a 386
[11:21] <gerald-volt> i don't know
[11:21] <maskd> it's only 9:30 and im already this tired..
[11:21] <gerald-volt> I'm using kernel for 386
[11:21] <gerald-volt> but my cpu is athlonxp
[11:22] <maskd> gerald-volt: how well does your system run now? do you see any need to change it?
[11:22] <thoeger> bye folks...
[11:23] <morphix> can somebody please help/tell me how i get rid of the IRQ errors and also 'reinstall' NIC
[11:24] <vbhanu> when i install kde i am getting this error kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed, how can i solve this?
[11:24] <gerald-volt> well that's the thing
[11:24] <gerald-volt> i dont know
[11:24] <gerald-volt> everything runs smooth
[11:24] <omen> hello
[11:24] <gerald-volt> and fairly fast
[11:24] <maskd> gerald-volt: then dont worry about it!
[11:25] <Seveas> vbhanu, apt-get install kde-core -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true"
[11:25] <gerald-volt> but there just seems to have a slight delay when I click something
[11:25] <maskd> if it aint broke, dont fix it
[11:25] <gerald-volt> i don't knwo
[11:25] <gerald-volt> it's hard to explain
[11:25] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[11:25] <gerald-volt> comparing to windows
[11:25] <omen> does ubuntu have a make command?
[11:25] <Seveas> gerald-volt, then just try it, you can always go back
[11:25] <Seveas> !tell omen about compiling
[11:25] <vbhanu> Seveas : do you want  apt-get install kde-core -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true" or  apt-get install kde -o"Debug::PkgProblemSolver=true"?
[11:26] <Seveas> vbhanu, either
[11:27] <gerald-volt> is there a kernel guide for ubuntu
[11:27] <gerald-volt> or shoudl I just dig out my gentoo handbook
[11:27] <weekang> hey, can someone point me to a man file or something for the equivs package?
[11:27] <Seveas> !kernel
[11:27] <Seveas> ubotu, test
[11:27] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[11:27] <weekang> i have it installed but can't find any instructions or man pages
[11:27] <Seveas> gerald-volt, it's on the wiki
[11:28] <gerald-volt> aight
[11:28] <Seveas> weekang, man equivs-control; man equivs-build
[11:28] <morphix> can somebody please help/tell me how i get rid of the IRQ errors and also 'reinstall' NIC
[11:28] <Seveas> morphix, try pci=routeirq as boot parameter
[11:29] <weekang> Seveas: thanks!
[11:29] <morphix> Seveas how exactly do i put that in GRUB?
[11:29] <Seveas> morphix, at the line startin with #KOPT
[11:29] <Seveas> and after that run update-grub
[11:30] <morphix> ..?
[11:30] <morphix> cant i just do command and then manually place it here?
[11:30] <Seveas> sure, hit [ESC]  during boot
[11:30] <morphix> then C
[11:31] <morphix> i think?
[11:31] <Seveas> hit e to edit, go to the 'kernel ...' line, etc...
[11:31] <morphix> hm..
[11:31] <Seveas> the grub boot screen has instructions ;)
[11:31] <morphix> faint 1's
[11:33] <mihai_> Please help. Why do I get "power calibration failed" in GnomeBaker when I try to write a CD?
[11:35] <calamari> hi
[11:35] <Seveas> oi
[11:35] <calamari> I think I might be screwed.. but just want to see if there is hope:
[11:36] <calamari> I enlarged my ext2 partition with parted.. rebooted.. everything was fine.. rebooted again an gnome wouldn't start
[11:36] <calamari> ran e2fsck and got a TON of errors.. fixed them all
[11:37] <calamari> of course gnome still won't start.. was missing important libs like libX11.. so I installed what it complained about missing
[11:37] <morphix> mihai_ that usually happens when your cdr is buggered and also if your cdrw drive isnt getting sufficient power
[11:37] <morphix> try changing the cdr disc
[11:37] <calamari> now it simply says that gnome-session cannot open the display
[11:37] <mihai_> morphix, I try to burn a cd-rw
[11:37] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> selamlar
[11:37] <morphix> try using a different disc.
[11:37] <mihai_> morphix, could this be the problem. just erased it
[11:37] <morphix> i reckon its more then likely the disc.
[11:37] <morphix> possibly
[11:38] <morphix> when i use faulty discs i get that error.
[11:38] <Seveas> AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI, this is an english channel, please stick to english
[11:38] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> no
[11:38] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> yes turks0131h
[11:39] <calamari> am I even trying to run gnome correctly?
[11:39] <mihai_> morphix, first time I burn a cd by myself
[11:39] <Seveas> calamari, that indeed sounds like you're screwed
[11:39] <mihai_> morphix, I want it to work
[11:39] <calamari> I'm trying "sudo gnome-session", dunno if that's right
[11:40] <Seveas> calamari, you could try apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f 1 -d ' '`
[11:40] <calamari> is there a way to have apt check my packages for missing files?
[11:40] <Seveas> calamari, no, you should simply try startx
[11:40] <Seveas> not sudo gnome-session
[11:40] <mihai_> morphix, Performing OPC...
[11:40] <mihai_> cdrecord: OPC failed.
[11:40] <mihai_> I get this too
[11:41] <calamari> seveas.. that will scroll off in a second.. may I leave #ubuntu and you paste that in a private message ?
[11:41] <nekostar> now if my system monitor says i have a load average of 1.53 then thats 1.53% ?
[11:42] <morphix> Seveas it didnt fix my prob :(
[11:42] <bob_4_a_day> i have 'nome and kde installed....
[11:43] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, because it's a kde app :)
[11:43] <Seveas> morphix, then I have no more clues
[11:43] <bob_4_a_day> your point is ?
[11:43] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, the gnome menus won't show kde apps
[11:43] <marccd> hmm where can I find mmencode for Ubuntu?
[11:43] <marccd> ahh nevemind, it is named mimencode in here
[11:43] <gerald-volt> how do I make all the grey stuff in firefox a lightr grey colour
[11:43] <bob_4_a_day> Seveas it does... kmail kppp konquror....
[11:44] <gerald-volt> like the stuf surrounding the buttons
[11:44] <gerald-volt> the color of the tabs
[11:44] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, those are bugs
[11:44] <bob_4_a_day> but no knosole
[11:44] <Seveas> bob_4_a_day, the gnome menus *shouldn't* show kde apps :)
[11:44] <morphix> i am sure i just need to install devices thats all
[11:44] <liable> why? kde shows gnome apps..
[11:44] <morphix> i dunno how to tho
[11:45] <liable> bob_4_a_day: look in the debian menu if you have one.
[11:45] <bob_4_a_day> yeah well i guess 'nome is just defacient that way...
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> liable all i have is an aplications and an actions menus
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hmm - not only does the gnome menu show kde apps - it even shows icons here on breezy
[11:48] <marccd> cafuego: still there?
[11:48] <bob_4_a_day> odd the only thing i can't find is konsole
[11:49] <VitorBeltrao> ooops
[11:49] <VitorBeltrao> sorry
[11:50] <calamari> re's
[11:51] <brrrt> hello
[11:52] <brrrt> i upgraded from warty to breezy, now i have a problem with typing a "@"
[11:52] <morphix> is there a way i can 'rescan' for hardware and ubuntu will set the new stuff up?
[11:52] <bob_4_a_day> i fixed it, the terminal launcher on the main panal; i reprogramed it to start konsole in place of 'nome terminal.
[11:52] <brrrt> and everytime i logon i gett an error box
[11:52] <Yeahnude> When i click on "adminstration" up to the menu. A window comes up and say: you need to put in your password. After i have put in my password nothing happen why?
[11:52] <twilight> brrrt, the error box is about xkb?
[11:53] <brrrt> yes!
[11:53] <twilight> brrrt, search it on bugzilla.ubuntu.co, is a solved bug
[11:53] <brrrt> thx!
[11:54] <maskd> Yeahnude: you didnt do an 'expert' install did you?
[11:54] <stark-johan> This problem is probably pretty simple or totally impossible to solve. I've logged onto icq via gaim on my fresh installation of ubuntu and I can't send or recieve file transfers. I understand this issue is well known but I read at the gaim FAQ that the file transfers with icq should be working in gaim 1.5.0. Am I doing it the wrong way or is it simply not working yet? I'm dragging and dropping...
[11:54] <xiaogil> At the boot, I have the following error msg : "mounting local filesystem failed". What shall I do ?
[11:55] <Stew_Lappy> anyone running breezy on a dell inspiron got the sd card reader working?
[11:56] <Yeahnude> When i click on "adminstration" up to the menu. A window comes up and say: you need to put in your password. After i have put in my password nothing happen why? ?
[11:56] <calamari> when I was in synaptic I disabled my ubuntu cdrom repository.. how can I get it back from the command line ?
[11:56] <maskd> Yeahnude: you didnt do an "expert" installation did you?
[11:56] <kemik> stark-johan:  dont think icq-filetransfers is availble unless you run the gaim beta
[11:56] <Yeahnude> maskd yes i took full
[11:56] <bob_4_a_day> havent i seen that before.....
[11:57] <maskd> Yeahnude: so when installing, you put in expert at the boot: prompt?
[11:57] <senectus> I have a small .ace file that I can't extract because it's using an unkown compression, can someone help me out here?
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> Yeahnude needs to add himself to the admin group
[11:58] <Khaine> hey
[11:58] <stark-johan> kemik > the 2.0 beta? is that available as a package or will I have to compile it manually?
[11:58] <maskd> hi Khaine
[11:58] <kemik> stark-johan:  compile afaik
[11:58] <Khaine> I just started using ubuntu
[11:59] <Khaine> I switched from gentoo
[11:59] <paal> ok
[11:59] <Khaine> I must say that I am very impressed, with how well it works out of the box
[12:00] <nekostar> now if my system monitor says i have a load average of 1.53 then thats 1.53% ?
[12:00] <maskd> Khaine: I know, my motherboard with windows needs to get drivers installed for the network to work, and it all works with ubuntu
[12:00] <stark-johan> kemik > thanks, I'll try that and report back.
[12:00] <morphix> how do i reconfigure a NIC using ifconfig?
[12:00] <Digis> senectus, install package "unace"
[12:00] <Stew_Lappy> I just installed on a laptop and I am very impressed, works better than suse 9 or 10 eer did
[12:01] <Khaine> some things are weird but, coming from gentoo, but overall I'm very happy with it
[12:01] <Yeahnude> maskd no but i could chose.. "server" < only little of ubuntu and full someething like that. When i click on "user accounts" (i have swedish ubuntu, im not good on translate) It says Child status 1 .. login as root
[12:01] <senectus> Digis, done that, but it tells me "File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible.
[12:01] <senectus> "
[12:01] <Digis> senectus, u tryed "unace e filename.ace"?
[12:02] <maskd> Yeahnude: Go to terminal, and try the command sudo users-admin
[12:02] <senectus> Digis, yes
[12:02] <senectus> Digis, and that is exaclty what it tells me
[12:03] <Digis> so, u need original winace tools :)
[12:03] <Yeahnude> maskd im new, how i go to terminal? :) i know terminal is the commando prompt
[12:03] <bob_4_a_day> maskd if Yeahnude did and expert install he/she probably set a root password,  use 'su - '   then set it up from the root account.
[12:03] <senectus> Digis, :rollseyes: not much help to me that is. I don't _have_ any windows machines anymore
[12:03] <Digis> senectus, U can try compiling http://www.maxeline.com/winace/linunace22.tgz
[12:04] <robbster> lo all. I've just installed breezy on my home pc. had mandrake, but I wanted a change. I just need some pointer on how to get windows up and running again? It's already installed.
[12:04] <maskd> bob_4_a_day: yeah i know but he didn't do an expert install
[12:04] <maskd> Yeahnude: the Terminal is in Applications > Accessories
[12:04] <Whistler> i have a tough question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:04] <bob_4_a_day> then whys the default user not in the admin group  <--- assumes default user account.
[12:05] <Badm4n> why i cant apt-get install pico
[12:05] <Badm4n> why i cant apt-get install pico after i apt-get remove nano ... cause i'd like pico more than nano
[12:05] <maskd> bob_4_a_day: no idea, but he says he didnt do an expert install
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n isn't pico installed ?
[12:05] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# pico
[12:05] <Badm4n> bash: /usr/bin/pico: No such file or directory
[12:05] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she#
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> maskd server does that too
[12:05] <Seveas> Badm4n, because pico is not free software
[12:05] <Badm4n> no i think
[12:05] <maskd> bob_4_a_day: ah.
[12:06] <Seveas> nano is about the same as pico, I didn't find any differences yet
[12:06] <Whistler> i have a good question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:06] <Badm4n> my keypad doesnt work on it ( nano )
[12:06] <Badm4n> :D
[12:06] <Badm4n> that make me dificult when i must put several number
[12:06] <maskd> i like gedit ;)
[12:06] <Whistler> i like mousepad
[12:06] <Whistler> its fast and easy to use
[12:06] <Badm4n> any idea to make it work ?
[12:07] <Stew_Lappy> joe :)
[12:07] <Yeahnude> maskd i have used that commando, sudo user-admin , it sayd, password and i filled it in.. should it work now?
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n do sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pico
[12:07] <Badm4n> lolz
[12:07] <maskd> Yeahnude: did it start up?
[12:07] <maskd> if not
[12:07] <Badm4n> that will load nano
[12:07] <Badm4n> :D
[12:07] <maskd> type "su", then enter the password you made for root
[12:07] <Badm4n> my keypad doesnt work on nano
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> that's what pico is on ubuntu.  a symlink to nano
[12:08] <weekang> help
[12:08] <weekang> i'm having trouble using equivs to simulate an uninstallable package
[12:08] <Whistler> i have a good question: does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:08] <Badm4n> omg...
[12:09] <weekang> basically i create a fake package but it is still uninstallable due to conflicts with an already installed package
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> !info picocom
[12:09] <ubotu> picocom: (minimal dumb-terminal emulation program), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 112 kB
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n ^
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> try that then
[12:09] <marccd> how can I see the user:group a process runs on?
[12:09] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pic
[12:09] <Badm4n> ln: `/usr/bin/pic': File exists
[12:09] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she#
[12:09] <Yeahnude> maskd root@server: /home/admin it says in the terminal
[12:10] <bob_4_a_day> pic ????    no no no Badm4n pico
[12:10] <Badm4n> pico
[12:10] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# sudo ln -s `which nano` /usr/bin/pico
[12:10] <Badm4n> ln: `/usr/bin/pico': File exists
[12:10] <Badm4n> see
[12:10] <Badm4n> :D
[12:11] <bob_4_a_day> ran it twice maybe ?
[12:11] <Badm4n> type it twice ?
[12:11] <bob_4_a_day> no i was ascing if you already did
[12:11] <docta_v> so is /usr/bin/pico linked to nano?
[12:11] <morphix> :@
[12:11] <docta_v> maybe you should check that
[12:11] <Whistler> does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:12] <Badm4n> docta_v : correct
[12:12] <Badm4n> after i type apt-get install nano
[12:12] <Badm4n> it create it by it self
[12:12] <calamari> Seveas: just fyi: the cut part of what you gave me needed to be cut -f 1   instead of -cut -f 1 -d ' '   .. I guess it is really using a tab and not a space.. at least on mine
[12:12] <ubunt-new> why when i do sudo apt-get instann nmap it does not install
[12:13] <Whistler> ubunt-new try sudo apt-get install nmap
[12:13] <ubunt-new>  sudo apt-get install nmap
[12:13] <ubunt-new> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[12:13] <ubunt-new> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[12:13] <ubunt-new> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet nmap
[12:13] <Whistler> it that doesnt work check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <ubunt-new> i donno
[12:13] <Adross> is there a screensaver wherein headlines from a specified newsfeed(usually rss) are displayed?
[12:14] <bob_4_a_day> !info nmap
[12:14] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[12:14] <Whistler> ubunt-new type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Whistler> and enable needen repositories
[12:14] <Badm4n> bob_4_a_day : any other solution ?
[12:15] <Whistler> does anybody know how to share internet connection from pc to nokia 6600 via BT ?
[12:15] <bob_4_a_day> to what problem Badm4n ?
[12:15] <cyphase> how do you make a command output to a file and the screen?
[12:15] <mirak> hi
[12:15] <mirak> when I open firefox I just have a small window that open with xml code in it
[12:16] <docta_v> cyphase: tee
[12:16] <Draken> anyone know how to bridge two network cards in linux ?
[12:16] <cyphase> docta_v, thanx
[12:16] <mirak> Draken: what do you want to do ?
[12:17] <morphix> i think i buggered up my /etc/network/interfaces config
[12:17] <ubunt-new>  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <ubunt-new> nothing happens
[12:17] <ubunt-new> it hangs
[12:17] <morphix> can someone show me what a default 'untouched' config looks like
[12:17] <thegladiator> hi
[12:18] <thegladiator> i have loaded a hard disk that got damaged few monhts back ...
[12:18] <thegladiator> i woul like to check if linux detects it
[12:18] <Draken> mirak
[12:18] <Draken> u know in windows when u bridge connections ?
[12:18] <mirak> yes
[12:18] <Badm4n> at pico ... i can use my keypad freely to put number like ip or something else
[12:18] <Badm4n> at nano : i cant do that
[12:18] <mwe> thegladiator: dmesg|grep hd
[12:19] <mirak> I know I needed it on windows some times, but I never needed that on linux, so I am wondering why one ould need it
[12:19] <docta_v> Badm4n: is numlock on?
[12:19] <mirak> Dr_Acemaster:
[12:19] <Draken> err well, i got two network cards
[12:19] <Badm4n> yes
[12:19] <Draken> to two diffrent ppl, i want to bridge them, and make it one
[12:19] <thegladiator> mwe, it doesnt show the seagate hdd
[12:19] <Badm4n> if i turn numlock off it apears like a help menu
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: on linux you can act as a gateway
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: type route
[12:20] <mwe> thegladiator: then probably it doesn't see. however try dmesg|less and look for it
[12:20] <Draken> but im not the gateway
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: google and man route
[12:20] <Draken> another computer
[12:20] <mirak> Draken: yes but you act as a router
[12:20] <justin_> Draken have you looked into bridge-utils?
[12:20] <Badm4n> !pico
[12:20] <ubotu> Badm4n: What?
[12:20] <Draken> i tried justin_
[12:21] <Draken> i really didnt know wat was going on
[12:21] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n vim work for you ?
[12:21] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me about pico
[12:21] <justin_> do you have kernel support?
[12:21] <Badm4n> !info pico
[12:21] <thegladiator> mwe, thank you
[12:21] <mwe> thegladiator: also look in /proc/ide, asuming it's ide of course
[12:21] <No1Viking> When I try to connect to another shared file I get a window to authenticate, how do I do to get rid of that?
[12:21] <Badm4n> bob_4_a_day : not friendly to use vim or vi :D
[12:21] <thegladiator> yep
[12:22] <mirak> Draken: for me you just need to put a route eth1 --> eth0 and vice versa
[12:22] <Draken> but then, can they get to me ?
[12:22] <mirak> Draken: what is the network layout ?
[12:23] <Draken> computer 1   ----------- ME    --------------- computer 2 ( has internet)
[12:23] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n yeah i don't particularly like vi/m either....  ever use joe or jed or mc's built in editor  mc is nice and friendly
[12:23] <mwe> Badm4n: try /msg ubotu foo to get info about foo
[12:23] <mwe> vim is nice if you learn to use it properly
[12:24] <bob_4_a_day> Badm4n install mc and try  mc -e <some.file>
[12:24] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore
[12:24] <bob_4_a_day> mwe i know it has it's place but that is not in my hands... :)
[12:24] <mwe> Badm4n: if you like pico, you'll probably like the free clone nano as well
[12:25] <sdog> anyone knows about working mythtv packages for breezy (amd)
[12:25] <bob_4_a_day> mwe you've not been keeping up...
[12:25] <mp3guy> hey, is there any program that can cycle your gnome desktop picture in an interval?
[12:25] <mwe> bob_4_a_day: what do you mean?
[12:26] <bob_4_a_day> nm
[12:26] <morphix> can someone show me what a default 'untouched' /etc/network/interfaces config looks like, so i can fix mine back up
[12:26] <mirak> Draken: well for me you should google on "route"
[12:26] <mwe> morphix: no because the installer creates on for you, so the default differs
[12:26] <mirak> man route
[12:26] <bob_4_a_day> mwe the whole point of the descussion about pico is that nano doesn't function correctly for him
[12:26] <mirak> Draken: I don't have done that since a long time
[12:27] <mwe> bob_4_a_day: heh. ok I see. just dropped in
[12:27] <Badm4n> docta_v & bob_4_a_day : thx anyway i think it's all about nano :D not pico :D
[12:27] <Badm4n> btw
[12:27] <Badm4n> apt-get install mrtg <---- enough ?
[12:27] <Badm4n> no need to install nmap ?
[12:27] <e-fonz> any one know about Gnucash?
[12:27] <ubunt-new> how do i install nmap
[12:27] <Polly_Morf> apt-get install nmap
[12:27] <liable> morphix: check out /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[12:28] <xiaogil> When I "mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5", it works, but when mounting with the fstab line "/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ext3    defaults        0       2", then i get the error msg "mounting local filsesystems FAILED", what can I do ?
[12:28] <ubunt-new> it does not work
[12:28] <marccd> where can I search for ubuntu packages on the web?
[12:28] <Polly_Morf> error?
[12:28] <morphix> mwe i mean what the default would be configure for dhcp
[12:28] <Polly_Morf> what errormessages?
[12:28] <voicu> whoever gave me that source-o-matic link, thanks a lot, i finally got kde3.5 installed
[12:29] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new already installed ?
[12:29] <mwe> voicu: yeah it's kinda cool
[12:29] <justin_> ubunt-new do you have permissions set to use apt-get with your user?
[12:29] <ubunt-new> nmap
[12:29] <ubunt-new> bash: nmap: command not found
[12:30] <Badm4n> dc :D
[12:30] <Badm4n> apt-get install mrtg <---- enough ?
[12:30] <Badm4n> no need to install nmap ?
[12:30] <mikelo> hi do i unrar a file?
[12:30] <liable> morphix: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:30] <mwe> you need to use sudo for apt-get install
[12:30] <ubunt-new> yes i am root
[12:30] <mikelo> i tried unrar in sunaptic but it didn't work
[12:30] <joost> mikelo: install rar
[12:30] <liable> morphix: thats it, if you want it at boot, add auto eth0 on line above
[12:31] <morphix> i have.
[12:31] <mikelo> i used unrar
[12:31] <marccd> anybody up to a challenge with postfix/sasl?
[12:31] <Toma-> anyone here using dapper? wanna test something for me?
[12:31] <e-fonz> mikelo: you need to do that in terminal
[12:31] <morphix> but eth0 when i bring the device up.. doesnt get an ip
[12:31] <justin_> ubunt-new ... so what was the error message
[12:31] <mikelo> yeah of course
[12:31] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new maybe sudo apt-get install nmap-frontend
[12:31] <twilight> Toma-, if i can ..
[12:31] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new maybe sudo apt-get install nmapfe  even
[12:32] <e-fonz> mikelo rar e <filename.rar>
[12:32] <ubunt-new> sudo apt-get install nmapfe
[12:32] <ubunt-new> Password:
[12:32] <ubunt-new> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[12:32] <ubunt-new> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[12:32] <ubunt-new> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet nmapfe
[12:32] <mikelo> e-fonz, ok
[12:32] <ubunt-new> it says could not find package
[12:32] <morphix> it just has "Link encap: ethernet, etc" then next like is "UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST"
[12:32] <e-fonz> worked for me
[12:32] <mikelo> joost,  thanx
[12:32] <Toma-> twilight: its just the new amsn. wanna see if the new static libs work a treat in dapper. http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/amsn_0.95-3.deb
[12:32] <morphix> normally on the 2nd line it has the IP, etc
[12:32] <Polly_Morf> ubunt-new: nmap-frontend does not exist
[12:32] <Polly_Morf> just install nmap
[12:32] <ubunt-new> yes same error
[12:32] <justin_> why don't you just use nmap
[12:32] <Polly_Morf> apt-get install nmap
[12:32] <ubunt-new> coulld not find packaged
[12:32] <bob_4_a_day> i cant read that spam thingy  so could you translate the error message ubunt-new ?
[12:33] <Toma-> nmapfe is what youre all after
[12:33] <ubunt-new> could not find the package
[12:33] <mwe> just prefix it with LANGUAGE=C
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> !repso
[12:33] <ubotu> bob_4_a_day: Wish i knew
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> !repos
[12:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> ubunt-new ^
[12:34] <No1Viking> !tell ubunt-new about repos
[12:34] <Polly_Morf> ubuntu-new: I can see youre swedish... joina #linux.se p quakenet. en vldigt trevlig kanal
[12:34] <e-fonz> mikelo: just type rar in terminal to get commandlist
[12:34] <twilight> Toma-, perfect installation
[12:34] <mwe> ubunt-new: I don't have a nmapfe package file either. only just nmap
[12:35] <twilight> Toma-, I have to see something else?
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> !info nampfe
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> !info nmapfe
[12:35] <ubotu> nmapfe: (The Network Mapper Front End), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> i'm getting tired....
[12:35] <mikelo> e-fonz: i did that the thing is that i can't mangae to keep the same directory structure i have in the in archive
[12:35] <Toma-> twilight: pefect :) thanks for that
[12:36] <morphix> :(
[12:36] <joost> mikelo: maybe use unrar x
[12:37] <mikelo> joost, thanx anyway
[12:37] <joost> mikelo   x  means:           Extract files with full path
[12:37] <No1Viking> Why do I need to authenticate to a samba share?
[12:37] <e-fonz> 05mikelo: rar x <filename.rar>?
[12:38] <Khaine> does anyone know why eclipse-sdk needs mozilla-browser ?
[12:38] <Badm4n> apt-get install mrtg <---- enough ? or i must do something else to make my mrtg running
[12:38] <justin_> Khaine it needs the mozilla runtime libs
[12:38] <ubunt-new> can i do sudo apt get install repositorires
[12:38] <mikelo> the directories' characters have accents that's why it doesn't work well
[12:39] <e-fonz> mikelo: just learned how to unrar this morning, so my knowledge is limited ;)
[12:39] <afief> What's the difference between the various linux file systems?
[12:39] <Khaine> ic
[12:39] <morphix> :(
[12:39] <bob_4_a_day> nope ubunt-new  but you can do apt-setup maybe
[12:39] <justin_> eclipse was designed to built against that lib
[12:39] <morphix> stupid config
[12:39] <e-fonz> mikelo
[12:40] <Khaine> ok, it just kinda seemed weird, but that makes sense
[12:40] <Saboo> Morning, I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something.  the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input
[12:40] <e-fonz> mikelo: put filename in quotes!!! ""
[12:40] <No1Viking> It says I need to authenticate to a samba share on another machine in our LAN. How do I do to get rid of that?
[12:40] <Khaine> I suppose it would be slightly nicer to have the libs as a seperate package
[12:41] <e-fonz> anyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?
[12:41] <ubunt-new> i opens to insert a cd
[12:41] <justin_> what do you expect considering the main contributor
[12:41] <afief> Is there any reason to use EXT3? all the online reviews i saw say it lost in the comparission
[12:41] <Khaine> huh?
[12:41] <ubunt-new> what to do to insert the cd
[12:42] <docta_v> afief: it's considered to be more battle tested than reiserfs
[12:42] <docta_v> that's about it
[12:42] <justin_> Khaine IBM was a major contributor
[12:42] <bob_4_a_day> afief opposed to what ?
[12:42] <Badm4n> !Ping me
[12:42] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Badm4n
[12:42] <Khaine> oh ok, thats what your on about
[12:42] <e-fonz> anyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?
[12:42] <afief> Zope, ReiserFS, Tar.gz and uncompressed TAR
[12:42] <Saboo> Anyone have a suggestion for me?
[12:42] <justin_> yeah sorry i've been up too long
[12:43] <Khaine> nah, its ok, I was thinking you were talking about a maintainer or something
[12:43] <morphix> is there a way i can reset the config for interfaces?
[12:43] <liable> morphix: what is the actual problem, i gave you what you needed for dhcp
[12:44] <Badm4n> !info mrt
[12:44] <Badm4n> !info mrtg
[12:44] <ubotu> mrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB
[12:44] <ubotu> mrt: (Multi-threaded Routing Toolkit (BGP4+/BGP/RIPng/RIP2)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.2.2a-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 738 kB, Installed size: 1852 kB
[12:44] <ubunt-new> how do i install repositories
[12:44] <xiaogil> When I "mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5", it works, but when mounting with the fstab line "/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ext3    defaults        0       2", then i get the error msg "mounting local filsesystems FAILED", what can I do ?
[12:44] <morphix> it isnt even trying to get an IP
[12:44] <bob_4_a_day> i hardly see how one could compair ext3 and reiserfs to a tar archive, compressed or not.
[12:44] <liable> morphix: does dhclient eth0 work?
[12:44] <morphix> it had no 'inet addr: or mask
[12:44] <mwe> morphix: this is maybe too late, but next time you mess with the interfaces file, backup the original first
[12:44] <e-fonz> anyone know why i can't find GNUcash in a menu after installing?
[12:44] <morphix> has*
[12:44] <ubunt-new> how do i install repositories
[12:45] <liable> morphix: you want dhcp or static?
[12:45] <docta_v> e-fonz: we saw your question, we don't care
[12:45] <morphix> dhco
[12:45] <morphix> dhcp*
[12:45] <liable> morphix: then the line i gave you is all you need..
[12:45] <liable> morphix: paste what you put to #flood
[12:45] <Nicholas> hi everyone =)
[12:45] <apokryphos> ubunt-new: repositories aren't really installed, they're added
[12:46] <apokryphos> !tell ubunt-new about repositories
[12:46] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me about mrtg
[12:46] <morphix> :/
[12:46] <morphix> i have to type it all out.. argh
[12:46] <MoonRanger> ubotu tell me about mrtg
[12:46] <No1Viking> It says I need to authenticate to a samba share on another machine in our LAN. How do I do to get rid of that?
[12:46] <liable> morphix: what? six words! not like its that big a chore..
[12:47] <MoonRanger> !mrtg
[12:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, MoonRanger
[12:48] <Nicholas> i don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but: i am running Ubuntu 5.10 and I wanted to install KDE and I did the command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and well I saw the kubuntu splash screen and most kubuntu apps but i have the gnome panel system as my gui instead of kde can someone tell me whats wrong =) ?
[12:49] <bob_4_a_day> you guys asking about mrt/mrtg do know about the manual pages don't you ?
[12:49] <justin_> Nicholas are you using GDM?
[12:49] <Badm4n> how do i install repositories
[12:49] <Saboo> I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my x86 machine, but it seems to have frozen whilst producing a list of what looks like pre installtion configuration or something. the last line displayed is "Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0" with the cursor blinking on the next line for input...Any suggestions of what to do??
[12:49] <Nicholas> currently, yes but i installed the kubuntu desktop system via the apt-get command
[12:49] <e-fonz> docta_v: i don't need your crappy answer, telling me you don't know is enough!
[12:50] <bob_4_a_day> Nicholas logout and select the kde when you start to log in
[12:50] <Nicholas> k let me try
[12:50] <danny> !tell badm4n about respo
[12:50] <justin_> Nicholas - i haven't done this in a long time ... there is an environmental variable in one of the files in /etc that you change from gnome to kde
[12:51] <bob_4_a_day> danny you sleppy too ?
[12:51] <mwe> e-fonz: sometimes I don't see the new menu shortcut until I reboot
[12:51] <cyphase> is there a "professional", "scientific" comparison of Breezy and Windows XP?
[12:51] <cyphase> :)
[12:51] <mwe> e-fonz: or log out and back in
[12:51] <e-fonz> mwe: i rebooted several times, but still don't see it
[12:51] <danny> !tell badm4n about repos
[12:51] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[12:52] <danny> bob_4_a_day, i have just woke up
[12:52] <docta_v> e-fonz: i don't need you spamming my screen every 30 seconds
[12:52] <e-fonz> mwe: is there a way to find out where it is installed?
[12:52] <mwe> e-fonz: also sometimes a program dont provide a shorcut at least for kde, but I install menu and menu-xdg and it provides a Debian submenu that usually has the shortcut
[12:52] <mwe> e-fonz: yeah. dpkg -L gnucash|grep bin
[12:52] <e-fonz> mwe: Ok gonna try that
[12:53] <mwe> e-fonz: probably /usr/bin/gnucash
[12:53] <Nicholas> yay
[12:53] <Nicholas> it worked, thanks everyone =)
[12:53] <afief> Is there a way to change my filesystem without formating?
[12:53] <e-fonz> docta_v: A polite answer would do the trick too you know?
[12:53] <apokryphos> afief: no
[12:54] <afief> Any way to do it