[07:18] <sethk> iamtheric, install the gnome desktop or KDE desktop, let it take care of X for you.  You can always uninstall it later, although there really isn't a reason to uninstall.
[07:18] <Elwyn> sethk, and what if my system stops at POST with the drive in, giving me an error on bad sectors or something like that? does that mean I dont have it set to slave properly?
[07:18] <iamtheric> sethk, i wasnt the one with the question!
[07:18] <Eroick> iamtheric: it wasn
[07:18] <rcarr> Results 1 - 10 of about 12,100 for "dual boot ubuntu" windows.
[07:18] <Eroick> t
[07:18] <sethk> Eroick, if windows was installed when you installed linux, the boot loader installation will find windows and add it to the boot menu.
[07:19] <sethk> iamtheric, well, don't you know anyway?  :)
[07:19] <iamtheric> wow retardicon
[07:19] <brian98> I'm liking edgy
[07:19] <iamtheric> i do
[07:19] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, have you got Ubuntu on a CD?
[07:19] <at0mic> so is this gui interface called the "x server" enviroment?
[07:19] <iamtheric> i never asked a question
[07:19] <Eroick> sethk: what? Im not using windows
[07:19] <sethk> Elwyn, check jumpering.  If you have an EIDE cable (one black, one grey, one blue connector) jumper the drives for Cable Select
[07:20] <Elwyn> allright, thanks
[07:20] <Elwyn> il give it a go
[07:20] <sethk> Eroick, if you aren't using windows, why are you messing with ntfs?
[07:20] <Elwyn> Cheers
[07:20] <Eroick> sethk: umm, i am not
[07:20] <iamtheric> agggh
[07:20] <iamtheric> newbs
[07:20] <iamtheric> hes not!
[07:20] <iamtheric> god damn
[07:20] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, have you got Ubuntu on a CD?
[07:20] <ub12> ok I solved my own problem: I ran "sudo update-grub -y".
[07:20] <Eroick> sethk: I want to get X to work. I am installing xubuntu-desktop.
[07:20] <Eroick> then usijng fluxbox
[07:20] <Eroick> :)
[07:21] <sethk> Eroick, sorry, you are right, I confused you with the file system problem guy.
[07:21] <Eroick> iamtheric: ?
[07:21] <iamtheric> Eroick, install any wm through apt and it wil get x!
[07:21] <Werdnum> Eroick: by X, I assume you mean xfce
[07:21] <zeroinc> UtterMassacre: fo sho
[07:21] <Werdnum> in which case you should be running sudo apt-get install xfce4
[07:21] <zeroinc> what i do afta that
[07:21] <zeroinc> during the install
[07:21] <zeroinc> that is
[07:21] <Eroick> what size is shown in apt-cache show? it says 8232. is that megs?! 8 gigs?!
[07:21] <at0mic> kb
[07:21] <at0mic> always kb here
[07:21] <iamtheric> HE WAS TALKING ABOuT X11!
[07:22] <Eroick> at0mic: ok. so that means 823MB?
[07:22] <halitech> Eroick, no it would be about 8meg
[07:22] <sethk> Werdnum, xfce != x
[07:22] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, do you have 2 partitions?
[07:22] <Eroick> halitech: no way
[07:22] <sethk> xfce, like any other window manager, uses X.
[07:22] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, one for windows, one for linux?
[07:22] <iamtheric> no!
[07:23] <Eroick> 8000 kb = ?mb?
[07:23] <at0mic> eroick 1000kb = 1mb. 8.3 MB is ur total
[07:23] <iamtheric> xfce is not x11
[07:23] <at0mic> 1024 to be exact
[07:23] <Rookie_> 1024 = 1 mb
[07:23] <oTToRoCk> hdparm -Tt
[07:23] <halitech> 8232/1024= ~8meg
[07:23] <rbil> atOmic, not if you sell hard drives :-)
[07:23] <Eroick> at0mic: how the heck is the entire xubuntu-desktop package 8MB?
[07:23] <oTToRoCk> cat /proc/partitions
[07:23] <sethk> Eroick, compressed, I presume
[07:23] <Werdnum> sethk: however, he wanted to install xubuntu, which uses xfce
[07:24] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, do you have 2 partitions?
[07:24] <iamtheric> Werdnum, yeah...
[07:24] <halitech> Eroick, XFCE is pretty light weight and that might be compressed and what is being downloaded from the repo, not including what is on the cd
[07:24] <Eroick> i am installing the xubuntu-desktop[ system because it is the smallest and has many apps i need built in
[07:24] <lars30> anyone got any pionters to fixing my Keyboard?
[07:24] <oTToRoCk> bye
[07:24] <lars30> It stopped knowing it has a numpad..
[07:24] <Eroick> halitech: will it be over a gig decompressed?
[07:24] <iamtheric> Eroick, just apt-get install fluxbox
[07:24] <at0mic> hey halitech u registered to nickserv? u from halifax?
[07:25] <sethk> Werdnum, yes, I understand, and in fact suggested installing a desktop.  what I was responding to what the statement   "xfce is X", which I guess really meant to say "xfce is the only desktop I can install)
[07:25] <iamtheric> Eroick, , what does it say?
[07:25] <halitech> Eroick, I'm not sure, can't see it being that big
[07:25] <Werdnum> ah
[07:25] <Eroick> iamtheric: i already did it. it just installs fluxbox, nothing else
[07:25] <iamtheric> Eroick, reboot
[07:25] <halitech> at0mic, nope, not registered but yes to halifax, check your privates
[07:25] <at0mic> i got no privates. u need to be registered to send privates u know?
[07:26] <Eroick> iamtheric: no. im installing the desktop package.
[07:26] <sethk> at0mic, register, it takes about 30 seconds
[07:26] <numist> or you can /ns set unfiltered on
[07:26] <at0mic> i did register.
[07:26] <neopoLiTan> at0mic, thats a problem best kept between you and your doctor
[07:26] <halitech> ok, replied back but I guess since I'm not registered you didn't get them
[07:26] <iamtheric> Eroick, i know!
[07:26] <at0mic> u gots it
[07:26] <iamtheric> Eroick, get another wm through apt
[07:26] <iamtheric> Eroick, gdm
[07:27] <halitech> so how do I register?
[07:27] <iamtheric> Eroick, that should get x as a dep
[07:27] <iamtheric> Eroick, then just select a flux session
[07:27] <at0mic> '/nickserv register password
[07:27] <halitech> with the ' or without?
[07:28] <numist> without
[07:28] <at0mic> '/msg nickserv rather... without the '
[07:28] <peeps> anyone know some program to control my cpu fan speed?
[07:28] <iamtheric> Eroick, update?
[07:28] <Eroick> installing GDM
[07:29] <Eroick> but i doubt it will work
[07:29] <iamtheric> Eroick why not?
[07:29] <brian98> !eyecandy
[07:29] <steveneddy> peeps yeah - nexus
[07:29] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:29] <ANTDx1> Hey guys
[07:29] <ANTDx1> serious problem...
[07:29] <Eroick> iamtheric: nvm, will startx in a sec
[07:29] <ANTDx1> I upgraded to 6.10 today, and when I restarted, it said something was wrong with my xorg server configuration
[07:29] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, what did it say?
[07:30] <Wiseguy> anyone here have both a wireless card and a normal nic card and have problems switching back and forth between the two devices?
[07:30] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, you have a broken package most likely, you have to see what it is
[07:30] <ANTDx1> It said the xorg interface could not be loaded.  It asked me if I wanted to get the output to see what was wrong.  I said yes, so it gave me an empty message with ok at the bottom, then it went to a black screen.
[07:30] <ANTDx1> How can I see what it is?
[07:30] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, look in the log
[07:31] <iamtheric> Eroick, update?
[07:31] <ANTDx1> Ok guys...I'm a bit new.  I have no idea where in the filesystem the log is.
[07:31] <some0ne> !nvidia
[07:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:31] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, did apt tell you if you had any broked packages?
[07:31] <some0ne> !aiglx
[07:32] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:32] <iamtheric> !e17
[07:32] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[07:32] <ANTDx1> apt told me that I could not override one Openoffice package because it was also used by mplayer.
[07:32] <zeroinc> uttermasacer left ?
[07:32] <rbil> ANTDx1 ... cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:32] <ANTDx1> however, that shouldn't have brought down the entire gui
[07:32] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, your in hell, dependency hell
[07:32] <zeroinc> god damnit
[07:32] <zeroinc> he was helping me
[07:33] <zeroinc> how do i dualboot ubuntu w/ windows xp already installed w/ a already partitioned hd
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, whats wrong?
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, install grub
[07:33] <sethk> ANTDx1, nothings go to work properly without fixig the problem
[07:33] <zeroinc> after i install ubuntu?
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, lilo might* work
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, yes
[07:33] <zeroinc> ok
[07:33] <AdamKili> can some1 help me? Adobe Flash only semi-works for me. sites like homestarrunner.com, newgrounds.com, and youtube.com work, but things like CNET videos, or episodes of shows on CBS.com don't work
[07:34] <zeroinc> and when i install them they will pick up the other partitions/boot.ini files?
[07:34] <sethk> zeroinc, do you mean you installed windows _after_ install linux?
[07:34] <zeroinc> no
[07:34] <zeroinc> i already have windows installed
[07:34] <zeroinc> i want to install ubuntu
[07:34] <zeroinc> on a seperate partition
[07:34] <iamtheric> zeroinc, it should ask where you want to install bootloader say mbr
[07:34] <sethk> zeroinc, then dual boot will be setup automtaically
[07:34] <zeroinc> hmm
[07:34] <ANTDx1> Ok sethk I'm hoping someone here will be able to help me fix the problem.  I'm on a Dapper live disc with my edgy partition mounted
[07:34] <zeroinc> really? that would be awesome.
[07:35] <iamtheric> zeroinc, still need to say install to mbr
[07:35] <iamtheric> enis?
[07:35] <zeroinc> whats mbr
[07:35] <AdamKili> !flash
[07:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:35] <iamtheric> zeroinc, master boot record
[07:35] <ANTDx1> ok guys what am I looking for in my xOrg logs?
[07:35] <starseed> Hey, i'm trying to add a repo , it says it can't verify because I don't have a public key .. I know what the key is , how do I pass that along ?
[07:35] <zeroinc> hmm
[07:36] <iamtheric> zeroinc, it will come up in the install where you want to install
[07:36] <zeroinc> but wont it overwrite the mbr if i install it to mbr
[07:36] <zeroinc> oh but i want it to overwrite hte mbr
[07:36] <iamtheric> zeroinc, ...thats the whole point
[07:36] <zeroinc> cuz it will recognize the dualboot
[07:36] <zeroinc> correct?
[07:36] <zeroinc> ok.
[07:36] <rbil> ANTDx1 ... error messages
[07:36] <zeroinc> thanks guys, iamtheric
[07:36] <ANTDx1> I don't see any, I just see normal things...or atleast, they look normal to me
[07:36] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, what did you upgrade from?
[07:37] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, xfree86?
[07:37] <ANTDx1> amd 64
[07:37] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, ...um no
[07:37] <lando> starseed: i think its apt-key add "link to key"
[07:37] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, what x11 did you have before xorg or xfree86?
[07:37] <starseed> k, i'll start there
[07:37] <ANTDx1> I don't know.  Whatever was the default on the install
[07:38] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, default install from what?
[07:38] <ANTDx1> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Cd.
[07:38] <AdamKili> HELP flash player works for newgrounds and youtube, but not for videos on CNET or CBS!!!
[07:38] <ANTDx1> CD*
[07:38] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no, what did you have before!
[07:38] <ANTDx1> I had 6.06 and I was upgrading to 6.10
[07:39] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, oh
[07:39] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, if apt says no brokes packages
[07:39] <ANTDx1> there was an error with apt, but it looked like it was just an openoffice package.
[07:39] <ANTDx1> I can't check now because I can't do anything
[07:39] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, i use debian unstable and redhat 9 so i dont know about ubuntus packages that well
[07:40] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, why not?
[07:40] <ANTDx1> when I boot,  the Ubuntu splash is black and white instead of color
[07:40] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, so...
[07:40] <ANTDx1> Well I can't check the synaptic messages because I can't get into the system.
[07:40] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, apt!, not the frontend just  apt
[07:41] <ANTDx1> It wouldn't accept my terminal commands either.  It showed my text on the screen, but did nothing when I typed it.
[07:42] <halitech> ANDTx, did you do sudo apt?
[07:42] <ANTDx1> would I be able to do anything in recover mode?  I'm not sure exactly how that works.
[07:42] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, log in with ssh
[07:42] <ANTDx1> Log in to my own machine with SSH?
[07:42] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, log in with ssh and use the term
[07:43] <ANTDx1> I can't do that if I can't set it up to allow an ssh connection
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no, log into your machine from another
[07:43] <sethk> ANTDx1, if you can't get the gui up, then yes, log into your machine using the client ssh on another box.
[07:43] <ANTDx1> I don't have another box available.
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, windows has putty
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, availible
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, log in with that
[07:43] <sethk> ANTDx1, you do have the netowrk up?
[07:43] <ANTDx1> I know windows has putty.  I use it.  I don't have a windows computer.
[07:44] <rbil> haha
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then what are you using now?
[07:44] <ANTDx1> I have a windows partition on THIS box.
[07:44] <ANTDx1> I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 Live cd
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then reinstall and start over!
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, itl take half an hour
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, you broke your system
[07:44] <ANTDx1> And lose the documents I had on my old desktop?
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no!!!!
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, move them to your windows partition
[07:45] <ANTDx1> I followed the instructions on the Ubuntu wiki
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, or another partition!
[07:45] <ANTDx1> How?  ubuntu can't modify NTFS and I have no other partitions...
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, make another!!!!
[07:45] <ANTDx1> There has to be a better solution than 'you broke your system now start over'
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, qtparted
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, parted
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, under present conditions no there isnt
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, unless you can log in with ssh from another comp...
[07:46] <ANTDx1> there isn't some config file i can edit and restart?
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, maybe your keyboard just got unplugged
[07:46] <rbil> iamtheric, why don't u login to his system and fix it?
[07:46] <halitech> ANTDx1, you can copy your files over to NTFS though
[07:46] <ANTDx1> It's a laptop.
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, my connect sucks ass
[07:46] <ANTDx1> If my keyboard got unplugged, I'm screwed.
[07:46] <Rookie_> to ntfs ? without the permissions ?
[07:47] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, whats your ip i could try...
[07:47] <halitech> right, no fstab to edit on livedc so forget that idea
[07:47] <sethk> ANTDx1, this isn't windows.  unplugging the keyboard is easily handled.
[07:47] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no!
[07:47] <ANTDx1> Someone asked if my keyboard was unplugged.  I simply responded.  I know this isn't windows.
[07:48] <ANTDx1> Anyway, isn't there some config file that I can edit....or even replace?
[07:48] <bthornton> Is it possible to rename the default printer names in CUPS?  The defaults usually seem to be something goofy like "hp_usb_HP_LaserJet_3050"...
[07:48] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, can you mount ntfs?
[07:48] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, yes!
[07:48] <ANTDx1> ok well what file do I need to edit or replace
[07:49] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, move the livecds x conf to the x conf that you just installed
[07:49] <ANTDx1> That's how I fixed all the other problems I've had...put in the live CD, mount the partition, and edit some file
[07:49] <ANTDx1> ok
[07:49] <AdamKili> nevermind i got flash working
[07:49] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <iamtheric> sorry
[07:50] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, mount partition and replace that file
[07:50] <ANTDx1> ok
[07:50] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then reboot and see if that helped
[07:50] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, i kind of doubt it though
[07:50] <rbil> iamtheric, why would xorg.conf be the prob when he can't even get into an init 3?
[07:51] <ANTDx1> It told me that the xorg server is what was wrong.
[07:51] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, iamtheric he never said he couldnt get there
[07:51] <ANTDx1> Why it wouldn't accept my terminal commands after that, I have no idea.
[07:51] <AsheD> Ubuntu hates me
[07:51] <iamtheric> rbil, he just said his keyboard didnt work
[07:51] <skoger> why?
[07:51] <ANTDx1> My keyboard DOES work.
[07:51] <adam_12> i have samba installed and i am sharing 2 of my folders but when i go on my windows box and try 2 connect to the files i am sharing it asks for a username and password but i dont know what they r
[07:51] <rbil> ANTDx1, oh, didn't know the prob was with his keyboard
[07:52] <ANTDx1> The problem isn't the keyboard
[07:52] <rbil> i thought he couldn't get to a command prompt period
[07:52] <ANTDx1> The keyboard works fine.  I could type, but when I pressed enter, my commands did nothing
[07:52] <AsheD> it decided not to mount anything except root on this boot, gave me a 'could not initialize HAL' error, power management errors, dbus, X randomly crashes
[07:52] <rbil> what commands did u use? did u login?
[07:52] <halitech> adam_12, you would have to use a username and password for a user that exists on the linux box
[07:52] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, yeah then your screwed
[07:52] <ANTDx1> well first I tried a sudo command and that didn't work
[07:52] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, i thought you said x gave you an error
[07:52] <ANTDx1> It did
[07:53] <ANTDx1> x gave me an error, THEN it sent me to this black screen
[07:53] <fnf> Hi, will anyone give me a direction of how to configure TV-out with my nvidia video adapter in xorg ?, I'm using the default 'nv' driver.
[07:53] <adam_12> halitech, i tried that and they didnt work
[07:53] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then dont start x
[07:53] <rbil> what does ATL-CTRL F2 do for you?
[07:53] <ANTDx1> how do I not start x?
[07:53] <AdamKili> what's the folder programs are usually installed to? /usr/lib/?
[07:53] <mayday_jay> ANTDx1 did you try including the path in the command?
[07:53] <halitech> adam_12, did you add the user as a samba user?
[07:53] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, delete it from your init scripts
[07:53] <adam_12> halitech, how do i do that?
[07:54] <AdamKili> hello? anyone?
[07:54] <halitech> adam_12 check here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba
[07:54] <ANTDx1> but then how can I fix my xorg config?
[07:54] <adam_12> halitech, thatnx
[07:55] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, your x is irelevent if you cant type in a terminal
[07:55] <marlowe> how do i connect remote desktop via windows vpn box
[07:55] <AdamKili> what's the folder programs are usually installed to? /usr/lib/?
[07:55] <rbil> ANTDx1, you need to get to a terminal and then u can fix things. either ssh or login on the box.
[07:56] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, yeah
[07:56] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, do you know your external ip?
[07:56] <ANTDx1> I don't have any idea.  I'm at a college campus....i'm not sure how my connection works here
[07:56] <marlowe> hello ? any experience on connecting remote desktop to windows over vpn
[07:57] <mayday_jay> ANTDx1, check that your paths aren't missing.  If they are re-establish.  Then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure X.
[07:57] <ANTDx1> What paths?
[07:57] <iamtheric> mayday_jay, he cant do jack shit
[07:57] <iamtheric> mayday_jay, he cant type in a terminal
[07:57] <halitech> marlowe, if the windows box is set up, use Terminal services client to connect
[07:57] <mayday_jay> ANTDx1 ... he said he could type but his commands wouldn't do anything.
[07:58] <ANTDx1> iamtheric: I copied and pasted that xorg config.  I'm going to see if it helps at all.  If not, I'll probably be back here.  It takes about 5 minutes for me to get the live cd up ayway
[07:58] <rbil> iamtheric, he said he could type "but nothing happens"
[07:58] <marlowe> halitech,i tried that and i was able to connect but i need to go over vpn. I get a prompt on the windows box. Interactive login not allowed......
[07:58] <iamtheric> rbil, basically the same thing
[07:58] <rbil> haha,
[07:58] <rbil> what does he use the livecd for?
[07:58] <iamtheric> i dont know
[07:58] <mayday_jay> iamtheric, if his paths are missing most commands won't work.
[07:59] <halitech> marlowe, not sure, I use vnc to remote my mothers system but no vpn
[07:59] <iamtheric> the basic commands would
[07:59] <adam_12> how do i find my MAC adress
[07:59] <mayday_jay> adam_12 sudo ifconfig
[07:59] <marlowe> halitech, thanks. Im really despirate to have it work over ubuntu.  But i have no choice on the windows server
[08:00] <rbil> mayday_jay, don't need sudo, just ifconfig
[08:00] <marlowe> I hope somebody has experience about remote desktop and vpn here
[08:00] <iamtheric> ifconfig eth0
[08:00] <No1Viking> Where can I find the channel settings that I have in my Xchat?
[08:01] <iamtheric> makes me glad i dont use ubuntu
[08:01] <rbil> iamtheric, I like ubuntu :-)
[08:01] <halitech> marlowe, check the forum herre http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91249&highlight=vpn
[08:01] <iamtheric> rbil, how many years you used linux?
[08:02] <rbil> 4 or 5, can't remember and then years ago before that
[08:02] <iamtheric> rbil, wow and you use ubuntu?
[08:03] <rbil> what's wrong with ubuntu. I'm enjoying it.
[08:03] <iamtheric> if i am going to use something debian based i want it almost pure
[08:03] <rbil> I like the philosophy behind the ubuntu organization
[08:03] <marlowe> halitech, i have tried and read that site but it doesnt allow me to connect on the remote desktop. My vpn is working on pptpclient.
[08:04] <iamtheric> i still use redhat9
[08:04] <newbuntu> hi all
[08:04] <rbil> last readhat I used was 5
[08:04] <iamtheric> enis you here?
[08:04] <iamtheric> ancient
[08:04] <marlowe> halitech, but when i now use the remote desktop it prompts me with an error not reachable.
[08:04] <marlowe> halitech, im trying to use the ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:04] <peeps> what can I use to control my cpu fan speed?
[08:04] <peeps> sorry,i asked a while ago but I went afk and lost the replies
[08:04] <halitech> marlowe, wish I could help more but not that good with vpn
[08:04] <halitech> are you inside a network?
[08:05] <marlowe> no
[08:05] <peeps> also, does anyone have an idea why I can't view my CPU temps?   I am using gkrellm
[08:05] <marlowe> halitech, im directly connected on my adsl internet.
[08:05] <newbuntu> i have an ati radeon video card and its installed and working, but i have no ati gui to say... turn on my tv out capabilities.. any clue how I can get the gui to install or show itself its already installed?
[08:05] <mayday_jay> Marlowe do you have a route set for the VPN network?
[08:05] <tapoxi> Hi everyone. I'm using a new monitor capable of a higher resolution than I had before, but it's not letting me select the higher resolution. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but even upon restarting X it goes to the old resolution. Any ideas?
[08:05] <iamtheric> how many packages are in the ubuntu repositories anyway?
[08:05] <iamtheric> peeps, you dont have the module configured
[08:05] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i think i dont or i did not configure that
[08:05] <peeps> how can i do that?
[08:05] <iamtheric> tapoxi, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:06] <iamtheric> peeps, never tried it
[08:06] <peeps> doh
[08:06] <rbil> tapoxi, edit xorg.conf and add the higher resolution
[08:06] <holycow> and google your horizontal and vertical refresh rates, and input in xorg.conf
[08:06] <mayday_jay> Marlowe are you using pptpconfig?
[08:06] <holycow> then restart x
[08:06] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes
[08:06] <tapoxi> rbil, iamtheeric, thanks
[08:06] <iamtheric> tapoxi, it did that to me with gnome, but when i installed kde it had a bigger resolution
[08:06] <marlowe> mayday_jay, pptp client application status is running when i click the start button
[08:06] <peeps> "acpi -t" tells me "No support for device type: thermal"
[08:07] <peeps> there is a kernel module I need?
[08:07] <iamtheric> peeps, exactly
[08:07] <marlowe> mayday_jay, routing style is client to lan
[08:07] <iamtheric> peeps, yeah
[08:07] <rbil> peeps, have you installed lsensors and configured them?
[08:07] <iamtheric> peeps, look in the repositories
[08:07] <tapoxi> /etc/X11/xorg.conf has the correct resolutions listed...
[08:08] <iamtheric> tapoxi, i ran into that
[08:08] <iamtheric> tapoxi, i installed kde
[08:08] <rbil> tapoxi, default color depth has to match the first resolution on the line you want to use
[08:08] <marlowe> hello ?
[08:08] <zane> whats up?
[08:08] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - I believe there is a network or a route tab...I don't have it installed right now.  2nd tab in I think....
[08:08] <iamtheric> marlowe, hi
[08:08] <marlowe> remote desktop over vpn ( windows server box )
[08:08] <tapoxi> rbil: ?
[08:08] <iamtheric> oh yeah
[08:09] <halitech> marlowe, is the computer you are trying to reach in the same house/apartment or is it in another building?
[08:09] <iamtheric> tapoxi, huh?
[08:09] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes you are correct. I see it.
[08:09] <marlowe> halitech, the computer that i am connecting to is  over another country
[08:09] <iamtheric> marlowe, not enough bandwidth to support a connect i doubt
[08:09] <halitech> marlowe, and you are trying to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:10] <marlowe> halitech, yes
[08:10] <mayday_jay> Marlowe...add the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network....
[08:10] <tapoxi> iamtheeric: Even though my xorg.conf is correct, the gnome resolution applet still won't let me switch, and presents a weird list from what is possibly some other config file
[08:10] <peeps> rbil: what is lsensors, I can find no such package in synaptic or apititude
[08:10] <marlowe> mayday_jay, ok i will try to add that.
[08:10] <marlowe> will do it now
[08:10] <iamtheric> tapoxi, yeah, i got kde, and then that changed around gnome too
[08:10] <darkaura> Holycow I got a question for you
[08:10] <tapoxi> iamtheric: Yeah, but I'm not going to install KDE just to switch resolutions
[08:10] <iamtheric> peeps, add more repositories if you dont have them already
[08:10] <rbil> tapoxi, the DefaultDepth if it's say 16, and you look at Display section, what does the Modes line say?
[08:11] <halitech> marlowe, that could be why, 192.168 IPs are not routable outside your local network
[08:11] <holycow> shoot i'll try to answer
[08:11] <marlowe> RNETLINK answers: invalid argument
[08:11] <iamtheric> marlowe, that would explain alot
[08:11] <iamtheric> tapoxi, edit the gnome applet
[08:11] <marlowe> halitech, possibly what should i do.  On my windows i have no problem. I connect to vpn and connec the remote desktop to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:11] <elmargol> !mp3
[08:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <tapoxi> rbil: Depth		24
[08:12] <tapoxi> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768"
[08:12] <darkaura> Okay I have a laptop, and it has a sound card built in I'
[08:12] <tapoxi> rbil: default depth is 24
[08:12] <mayday_jay> Also, Marlowe if your local network is on the same subnet 192.168.0.x you will have a problem connecting...
[08:12] <halitech> marlowe, can you get the vpm connection first to the wan IP?
[08:12] <darkaura> I'm buying a usb sound card cause my earphones don't work how would I disable the internal sound card and use the usb one
[08:12] <iamtheric> enis you here?
[08:12] <rbil> tapoxi, should go into then 1280x1024 then
[08:12] <marlowe> halitech yes. I think so because the status is running
[08:12] <darkaura> is some one having problems with resolutions?
[08:13] <marlowe> mayday_jay, error: Network is unreachable
[08:13] <iamtheric> darkaura, he just left
[08:13] <halitech> marlowe, running does not always equal connected
[08:13] <mayday_jay> marlowe - can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:13] <marlowe> htalitech, hmmm ok. I agree......
[08:13] <marlowe> mayday_jay, no
[08:14] <marlowe> mayday_jay, ping no reachable also
[08:14] <halitech> marlowe, if you can't ping it sounds like your vpn is not actually connected
[08:14] <marlowe> i agree
[08:14] <rbil> tapoxi, did you copy and paste this: Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768"  don't see a space between Modes and first "
[08:14] <iamtheric> yep
[08:14] <darkaura> well I was having problems switching resolutions, and what I did was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then I went through the setup it came to resoultions and then added all of them and now I can switch resolutions
[08:14] <marlowe> hmmmmm
[08:15] <halitech> marlowe, what IP address did you tell the vpn client to connect to?
[08:15] <marlowe> do i have to set anything or shutdown anything like a firewall ?
[08:16] <darkaura> holycow did you get my question?
[08:16] <halitech> marlowe, if you have a firewall running, you probably need to open up your firewall
[08:16] <marlowe> halitech, i connect the vpn client to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:16] <rbil> peeps, my mistake it's lm-sensors
[08:16] <holycow> darkaura, typically you would find out what module the kernel is loading for the sound card and rmmod modulename ... then add it to the black list so it doesn't get loaded at start
[08:16] <marlowe> halitech, i think it is able to connect. Because if i set a wrong password it does not have a status running
[08:17] <mayday_jay> marlow - What is your machine's local IP address?
[08:17] <darkaura> and how would I do that?
[08:17] <marlowe> halitech, no firewall running. I uninstalled it
[08:17] <holycow> the problem with sound cards is that mostly they are undocumented and there isn't always an obvious command you can send to power it down ... never mind that the kernel doesn't really support such a thing well yet anyway
[08:17] <marlowe> mayday_jay, machine local ip adress is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:18] <iamtheric> marlowe, thats not local
[08:18] <Seeker2599> ok this may seem like a stupid question to ask on here but i thought you guys might know the answer, how do i connect with ftp to a server using firefox using my username and password, my server doesnt allow anonomus connections with ftp
[08:18] <iamtheric> marlowe, 192.168.*.*
[08:18] <rbil> peeps ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[08:18] <mayday_jay> That is a routable IP.  Are you behind a router or are you directly connected to a cable modem or dsl modem?
[08:18] <marlowe> iamtheric, oops. sorry
[08:18] <halitech> Seeker username:password@ipaddress or hostname
[08:19] <marlowe> mayday_jay, connected directly to a calbe modem
[08:19] <Seeker2599> ty i knew there was a way
[08:19] <iamtheric> Seeker2599, it doesnt give a prompt?
[08:19] <halitech> sorry, add ftp:// to the beginning
[08:19] <Seeker2599> no
[08:19] <iamtheric> yeah what halitech said
[08:19] <darkaura> SEEKER2599 - install  gFTP its easier than using firefox
[08:20] <mayday_jay> do you see 192.168.0.x if you type route in a shell?
[08:20] <Seeker2599> i did but its not connecting
[08:20] <marlowe> mayday_jay. will try to type route
[08:20] <Seeker2599> and it just froze
[08:20] <marlowe> mayday_jay, no 192.xxx
[08:21] <mayday_jay> marlowe, when you added the network on the route tab did you highlight the connection, click update and then reconnect?
[08:21] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes yes yes. I forgot to run the pptp again. Now it is running and i see the <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:22] <Seeker2599> can i upload using firefox?
[08:22] <mayday_jay> Marlowe, now try to connect...
[08:22] <halitech> Seeker, sure can
[08:22] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i see now
[08:22] <Ademan_> technically in a UML diagram, when a class implements another class, does the arrow point to the parent class or the child class?
[08:22] <Seeker2599> how, my brains not working tonight
[08:23] <mayday_jay> Marlowe...so you are connecting?
[08:23] <darkaura> Holycow in device manager I see intel ich6 alsa control device is that my sound card?
[08:23] <marlowe> mayday_jay, <IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS> UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[08:23] <halitech> open your file manager, right click and copy the file and then paste it into the ff window
[08:23] <Seeker2599> well duh
[08:23] <Seeker2599> lol ty
[08:23] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes it is connected to the vpn. I think. But the remote desktop is not able to connect to the <IP_ADDRESS> which is what i use on my windows environment to connect to the remote desktop server
[08:23] <halitech> Seeker, no problem, we all have brain farts :)
[08:24] <jordan> Ademan,  I believe the child although I am not sure.
[08:24] <iamtheric> its about 230 in est
[08:24] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - Did you type in <IP_ADDRESS>/24 for the network or did you type <IP_ADDRESS> ... the first one is what you need....so it routes the whole class c
[08:24] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i typed <IP_ADDRESS>/ 24. The one you instructed
[08:25] <halitech> iamtheric, it's 3:24 ast
[08:25] <iamtheric> am or pm?
[08:25] <halitech> am
[08:25] <Seeker2599> what am i doing wrong, when i copy and paste it, it tries to open it
[08:25] <iamtheric> yeah
[08:25] <iamtheric> fail
[08:26] <halitech> Seeker, what error message do you get?
[08:26] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i typed it as <IP_ADDRESS> but when i check it back. It is defaulted to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:26] <halitech> d'oh, never mind
[08:26] <marlowe> mayday_jay, sorry
[08:26] <halitech> where are you pasting it?
[08:26] <Seeker2599> in my /www/ folder
[08:27] <marlowe> mayday_jay, typed it as <IP_ADDRESS> then it goes <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:27] <mooseman089> hey
[08:27] <Seeker2599> is there a different ftp client i can use besides gftp
[08:27] <halitech> don't take this the wrong way but you aren't pasting it in the address bar are you?
[08:27] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - That should get you connected ... I've used that config in the past to connect to a Windows PPTP connection at work...so basically I needed to set username, password, route, IP on PPTP server, and then I have access to the network....
[08:27] <Seeker2599> no
[08:28] <Seeker2599> gftp has crashed twice now
[08:28] <halitech> ok, not sure why it would be trying to open the file then
[08:28] <Seeker2599> i dont know either
[08:28] <halitech> there should be a few in synaptic if you look for ftp
[08:28] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:28] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - You've connected to this VPN via a Windows box and it serves you an IP?
[08:29] <marlowe> mayday_jay, pptconfig status is running ( or should i assume connected ). But then a ping on <IP_ADDRESS> = DEstination Net unreachble
[08:29] <mooseman089> ok i have apache running on my ubuntu box for a web server and it was working fine but all the sudden it stopped loading so i did /etc/init.d/apache2 reload and i got warnings that it couldnt bind to address [::] :80
[08:29] <darkaura> if gftp doesn't work try kftpgrabber
[08:29] <Seeker2599> ok ty i will
[08:29] <marlowe> mayday_jay, I have connected to the windows box. But i dont know if it serves my an ip. I just connect using the <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:29] <mooseman089> i did netstat  -lnp | grep 80 and i found that gnome panel apps for some reason binded to the port
[08:30] <mooseman089> if i kill their pid then the apache server works
[08:30] <darkaura> I use to use gftp but it didn't do everything I needed it to, so I use kftpgrabber
[08:30] <mooseman089> but why would gnome do that
[08:30] <halitech> ok, here's an idea and this worked for me, go to places and connect to server, select ftp (with login) put in the rest of the info and it should connect and allow you to treat it like a folder
[08:30] <mooseman089> and the exact same thing happened to my secondary web server that i rarely us
[08:30] <mayday_jay> Marlowe....it shouldn't change back to <IP_ADDRESS> - it should go to <IP_ADDRESS>/24.  Delete it readd, highlight and update connection....then check in config...the reconnect...I'm sure its a routing thing if you are connecting alright but can't pass traffic...
[08:31] <cafuego> mooseman089: If they don't run as root, they cannot bind to port 80.
[08:31] <marlowe> mayday_jay, ok i will do that again
[08:31] <mooseman089> how would things like the volume control run as root
[08:32] <cafuego> I'm just saying, if it's bound to port 80, it *has* to run as root.
[08:32] <mooseman089> but the weird thing is it suddenly happened because my friend was using it fine and then he sent a message saying it stopped
[08:33] <cafuego> mooseman089: What happens when you telnet to port 80?
[08:33] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - did it work
[08:33] <mooseman089> says connected to localhost then nothing else
[08:33] <marlowe> mayday_jay, your a genius. YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:33] <marlowe> mayday_jay, thanks thanks thanks. I am now able to connect
[08:34] <Seeker2599> installing now
[08:34] <marlowe> via remote desktop
[08:34] <cafuego> mooseman089: Type "GET / HTTP/1.1" and hit return twice.
[08:34] <marlowe> YAHOOOOOOO
[08:34] <mayday_jay> Cool - glad I could help...
[08:34] <mooseman089> nothing returned
[08:34] <marlowe> mayday_jay. now i will try to ftp also
[08:34] <palski> There is a link in usr/bin/X11 which points to .? why?
[08:34] <mooseman089> it just stayed blank
[08:34] <cafuego> mooseman089: it's just sitting there?
[08:35] <mooseman089> yea
[08:35] <cafuego> mooseman089: hit return again
[08:35] <mooseman089> i did
[08:35] <drack> Reinstall done
[08:35] <mooseman089> then i hit it a couple more times for fun and still nothing
[08:35] <drack> 30 minutes, not bad
[08:36] <halitech> night everyone
[08:36] <marlowe> now the remote desktop is on hang. wow. anyways its good to see the screen of the server. Thanks to all
[08:36] <cafuego> mooseman089: Anything in your apache access_log?
[08:36] <mooseman089> well when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 reload it says unable to open log file
[08:37] <cafuego> Are you running that as root?
[08:37] <Seeker2599>  kftpgrabber is asking for a url and a host name what do i put in host name
[08:37] <mooseman089> yea
[08:37] <mooseman089> im logined in as over ssh
[08:37] <cafuego> mooseman089: 'aapche2ctl configtest'
[08:37] <cafuego> 'apache2ctl configtest' even
[08:37] <mooseman089> nothing interesting
[08:38] <Seeker2599> sorry guys im being a complete idiot right now
[08:38] <darkaura> hold on Seeker2599 I'll walk you through it just let me start it up on my end
[08:38] <mooseman089> just the same as always but im sure its port bindings
[08:38] <rbil> is restart different than reload?
[08:38] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:38] <mayday_jay> mooseman089 - what does netstat -lp | grep http return
[08:38] <Seeker2599> ty
[08:38] <mooseman089> if i change the listening port from 80 to 83 it works
[08:38] <cafuego> mooseman089: It's not saying it has a problem with its log file?
[08:38] <marlowe> mayday_jay, how do i automate the connection for the vpn when i do remote desktop ?
[08:38] <Seeker2599> ive got all the info put in i just dont know what to put for host name
[08:38] <mooseman089> netstat -lp | grep http
[08:38] <mooseman089> tcp6       0      0 *:https                 *:*                     LISTEN     4683/apache2
[08:39] <cafuego> mooseman089: Any chance a leftover apache2 process is still listening on port 80?
[08:39] <mooseman089> i dont know why its tcp6 though because i dont use ipv6
[08:39] <mooseman089> i rebooted a couple times
[08:39] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - goto file and Quick Connect
[08:39] <mooseman089> and tried apache2ctl stop
[08:39] <Seeker2599> i did
[08:39] <cafuego> mooseman089: Can you tell me IP of the apache2 server?
[08:40] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - you would have to write a pppscript to do that.... a little more complex than using pptpconfig -- pptpconfig is basically doing that for you...
[08:40] <Shadow_mil> gnome panel is acting up, it shows up in the middle of the screen and it keeps forgetting it's setting
[08:40] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - under url put the url your ftping to
[08:40] <Seeker2599> i did
[08:40] <mooseman089> cafuego did you get the pm?
[08:40] <cafuego> nope
[08:41] <cafuego> you not identified with nickserv?
[08:41] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - then under username  put your user name and under password put password
[08:41] <Seeker2599> what about hostname
[08:41] <Seeker2599> or host
[08:41] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - don't worry about that
[08:42] <mayday_jay> mooseman089 - netstat -lp show anything listening on 80?
[08:42] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - Make sure you have add to bookmarks checked so you won't have to do this over again
[08:42] <Seeker2599> well when i click connect is says please enter a hostname
[08:43] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - close that and do a new quick connect I did something wrong
[08:44] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:44] <bayzider> Ok, I relly need some help. I installed a windows program thorugh wine and it needs activex. How do I get that?
[08:44] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - under host name put the url
[08:45] <Seeker2599> with http:// ?
[08:45] <darkaura> no http:// or www.
[08:45] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:46] <darkaura> so for example if you wanted to ftp to tripod it would be ftp.tripod.com in the host box
[08:46] <bayzider> So, any one know how to do that?
[08:46] <Seeker2599> HOT DAMN! sorry
[08:46] <Seeker2599> thank you so much darkaura
[08:47] <Seeker2599> and everyone else that stayed patient with me
[08:48] <Seeker2599> lol i shut everyone up
[08:48] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - did it work?
[08:48] <Seeker2599> yes it did perfectly
[08:48] <darkaura> sorry my chat wen funny
[08:48] <wolfbane_691> hey i have a quick question why are some games on ubuntu act slow and sluggish?
[08:49] <wolfbane_691> is it my video card
[08:49] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - what games?
[08:49] <b0xii> wolfbane_691: no acceleration?
[08:49] <wolfbane_691> like chromium
[08:49] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - and what is your video card?
[08:50] <Seeker2599> well thank you again everyone im going to go ftp now
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> ati 64
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> 64 mb
[08:50] <bayzider> So, no one knows how to do that?
[08:50] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - you have Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> a few days ago they ran just fine
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> i do
[08:51] <davin> Hi, im running Kubuntu 6.06 LTS, Id like to use GNOME too (both), but when I try to install ubuntu-desktop I get some errors about langauge-selector and libglib2.0-data ?
[08:51] <bayzider>  Ok, I relly need some help. I installed a windows program thorugh wine and it needs activex. How do I get that?
[08:51] <wolfbane_691> any thoughts
[08:51] <davin> bayzider: #winehq
[08:51] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - looking for answers now
[08:52] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[08:52] <bayzider> davin: what?
[08:52] <davin> bayzider: ask your wine questions in #winehq
[08:52] <bayzider> kk
[08:52] <wolfbane_691> does ubuntu run apps in the background?
[08:53] <wolfbane_691> cause i thought of that
[08:53] <wolfbane_691> maybe it could slow things down?
[08:53] <wolfbane_691> just a thought
[08:54] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - your video card an ATI Rage or ATI Radeon?
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> ati radeon
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> 8500
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> le
[08:54] <Ademan_> how can you find the BusID of your video card?
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> L E
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> 64 bit
[08:55] <SurfnKid> Adam__,  lspci
[08:55] <SurfnKid> Adam__,  lspci -v
[08:55] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - I came across this page you might want to check out it may help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:55] <SurfnKid> Ademan, lspci -v
[08:55] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[08:55] <darkaura> Wow I'm doing not bad for only using Ubuntu for a month
[08:56] <SurfnKid> darkaura, its amazing aint it
[08:56] <Dheeraj_k> Happy diwali to all :)
[08:57] <Lynoure> That ati card should work fine with free drivers, too... so if it does not, might make sense to see if a bug needs to be reported
[08:58] <darkaura> SurfnKid - I've tried other linux distros, but always returned to windows in about 3 weeks after installing, installed Ubuntu and I've had it installed for a month
[08:59] <darkaura> Don't want to return to windows
[08:59] <wolfbane_691> ok 1 more thing i have a game called armyops250 whats the command line to install and run it
[08:59] <starsky_hutchy> darkaura, Ubuntu's great :)
[09:00] <Dheeraj_k> it is not possible to ignore windows
[09:00] <bayzider> My deufaltfont is really screwed up how do I put it back to normal
[09:00] <starsky_hutchy> Dheeraj_k, maybe.
[09:00] <jordan> I need some help following a this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent, when it says "Rename the file 'isolinux.cfg' to 'syslinux.cfg'" Where is this file supposed to be?
[09:00] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - I believe it would be sudo sh ./armyops250.run
[09:01] <SurfnKid> darkaura, yep i only go to windows when i play a game or defrag my usb drive
[09:01] <SurfnKid> but other than that, im in the underground internet life forever with ubuntu
[09:01] <wolfbane_691> is that to install
[09:01] <darkaura> sorry I have to go now
[09:02] <jordan> I need some help following a this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent, when it says "Rename the file 'isolinux.cfg' to 'syslinux.cfg'" Where is this file supposed to be? Is it supposed to be in the root of the pen drive?
[09:03] <sidny4> are there widgets for gnome? or are they mostly for KDE and other interfaces?
[09:03] <wolfbane_691> what do i type to run it?
[09:04] <jordan> sidny4, try gdesklets.
[09:04] <sidny4> ok
[09:04] <Dheeraj_k> good news MSDN for Linux developers http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8006773943.html
[09:05] <bayzider> does any one know how to fix my problem
[09:05] <jordan> Please, can someone confirm that the file is supposed to be on the root of the drive?
[09:06] <starsky_hutchy> !redmond
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redmond - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <yakumo> hello anyone know how to use tovid?
[09:14] <Daverocks> !anyone
[09:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:15] <sidny4> how do you configure a synaptics touchpad?
[09:21] <sidny4> !synaptics
[09:22] <infidel> ?j #electronics
[09:22] <sidny4> !synaptics
[09:23] <Shadow_mil> net split
[09:23] <berent> what hap
[09:23] <berent> so many quit
[09:23] <Milchmann> hi, i've installed the kubuntu-desktop. now how do i get the ubuntu loadscreen back?
[09:24] <Flannel> net split, no need to worry, just sit back and enjoy the ride ;)
[09:24] <berent> what isnet split
[09:24] <Milchmann> server loose connection
[09:24] <Milchmann> servers
[09:24] <Flannel> a netsplit is when two (or more) of the IRC servers lose connections with each other
[09:24] <sidny4> woohoo!
[09:24] <Flannel> ubotu has a factoid, but he's on the other side at the moment ;)
[09:25] <Milchmann> and the user on the server who got disconnected from the net dont see us and we dont see them
[09:25] <berent> wow
[09:25] <berent> but how are they binded again
[09:25] <berent> bind again
[09:25] <Milchmann> when the server reconnects to the net
[09:25] <Milchmann> freenode is not only one server
[09:25] <zeroinc> lol
[09:25] <Elwyn> bewm
[09:25] <kraut> moin
[09:25] <compengi> !mp3
[09:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:26] <Milchmann> so, once again ;), i've installed the kubuntu-desktop. now how do i get the ubuntu loadscreen back?
[09:26] <winterweaver> hey all ^.^
[09:26] <sidny4> !synaptics
[09:26] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[09:26] <sasper> I'm currently booted into and running on the Live Ubuntu CD, and want to install ubuntu fully. However, nothing happens when I click the Install icon the desktop. Any suggestions?
[09:27] <berent> how will both servers join together to show cumulative users
[09:28] <berent> after net split
[09:28] <Werdnum> is there a package bot in here?
[09:29] <sasper> no one can help with support on my issue at all?
[09:29] <Werdnum> ~tell me about blender
[09:29] <Werdnum> !blender
[09:29] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[09:29] <Werdnum> !gameblender
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gameblender - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <Milchmann> sorry, sasper. you could try the alternate cd
[09:29] <Milchmann> but there should be an easier way
[09:29] <berent> how will both servers join together to show cumulative users after net split
[09:30] <sasper> there isn't a cmd line way to do the install?
[09:30] <Milchmann> there sure is, but i dont know the command
[09:30] <Flannel> berent: same as they do beforehand
[09:30] <winterweaver> sasper, yeah me2
[09:30] <Milchmann> you could check the properties of the link on the desktop
[09:30] <Milchmann> see where it points
[09:30] <Milchmann> and then execute that command in the shell
[09:31] <berent> Flannel: can you explain "doing beforehand"
[09:31] <Flannel> berent: sure, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:31] <sasper> tried that already... doesn't work either ;)
[09:31] <nip> 4u
[09:31] <berent> Flannel: come over I have joined it
[09:31] <sasper> ** (gksudo:7510): WARNING **: Could not load desktop file: No such file or directory
[09:32] <nip> kjkl
[09:32] <sasper> the command from the desktop shortcut is  gksudo --desktop %k ubiquity gtkui
[09:33] <compengi> variant, what's the best source.list list, because i'm searching for some software in synaptic and it can't find it
[09:33] <jazzrocker> what's an aac file?
[09:33] <jazzrocker> can ubuntu play them? some sort of media format?
[09:33] <winterweaver> sooo.... I'm gonna rollback my NVidia Drivers now, I downloaded the earlier version from NVidia, I've made a backup of my xorg.conf.... Is there anything else I may need to backup just in case?? (I'm running a TwinView (Dual Monitors))
[09:33] <gansinho> ok, I'll ask another way, I really want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, but, gksudo "update-manager -c -d", gives me an error output, maybe because of xgl, is there another way to upgrade the OS ?
[09:34] <XiXaQ> jazzrocker, sound I think.'
[09:34] <vorbote> jazzrocker: advanced audio coding. It is part of the MPEG4 standards. Yes, install the gstreamer ugly plugins in multiverse.
[09:35] <jazzrocker> ahh, google says it's the iTunes format
[09:35] <vorbote> Or gstreamer ffmpeg
[09:35] <vorbote> jazzrocker: not exactly...
[09:35] <sasper> what the fuck. i thought ubuntu was supposed to be "easy to install", and yet i can't even get the installation running!
[09:36] <Jay2> sasper, be patient, it took me awhile, but it's worth it
[09:36] <jazzrocker> vorbote, so, what, exactly is it?
[09:36] <vorbote> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding
[09:36] <starsky_hutchy> sasper, Jay2
[09:36] <Snottlebocket> hey guys, is there something like a beginner's guide to ubuntu? it's time to format my pc and i'm looking at installing ubuntu instead of win xp because i keep reading positive things about it but i'm entirely new at linux so i'd like to get some idea of what i'm getting into and whether ubuntu is even a good choice for me
[09:36] <strike> hi, I have just installed ubuntu desktop, by default it does not have a root password. How can I assign password to root?
[09:36] <i386> hello
[09:36] <starsky_hutchy> :)
[09:36] <jazzrocker> vorbote, yeah, i just read that actually
[09:36] <i386> anyone have a good resource on creating Icon themes ?
[09:36] <sasper> Jay2: i can't even get the installation to run!
[09:36] <strike> hi, I have just installed ubuntu desktop, by default it does not have a root password. How can I assign password to root?
[09:37] <winterweaver> sasper, I didn't have any probs ?? >.<  ... what system do you have?
[09:37] <vorbote> Apple uses one of the formats defined in the standard. AAC was before the iPod.
[09:37] <Flannel> strike: ubuntu uses sudo instead of root
[09:37] <vorbote> If you've listened to satelite radio, that's in AAC
[09:37] <sasper> winterweater: the system shouldn't matter. i'm currently running on the ubuntu 'live install cd'
[09:37] <BrianG> !ohmy
[09:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:37] <jazzrocker> vorbote, does the itunes encoder create files with the aac extension? or does it use something else?
[09:38] <XiXaQ> sasper, I have never heard of that problem before.
[09:38] <Jay2> sasper, for me, it was just a matter of changing to a faster cdrom
[09:38] <frogzoo> which is the best versn of wine to run WoW - I get constant freezes with 0.9.23
[09:38] <strike> Flannel: thats right but I do not want user to be able to mess with setting and I want multiple users on the system
[09:38] <XiXaQ> sasper, it's the easiest install I have ever done.
[09:38] <Flannel> strike: if a user doesn't have admin rights, he can't use sudo
[09:38] <vorbote> I don't recall. If they are raw, they should use the .aac extension. If they use an mpeg4 container, the extension would be .mp4 or .m4a
[09:39] <compengi> what's the best source.list list, because i'm searching for some software in synaptic and it can't find it
[09:39] <Flannel> compengi: like what software?
[09:39] <strike> Flannel: but is there a way to set password for root?
[09:39] <frogzoo> !easysource > compengi
[09:39] <Flannel> strike: sure, but there's really no reason to
[09:39] <Flannel> !tell strike about rootsudo
[09:39] <compengi> Flannel, gnomebaker....
[09:40] <XiXaQ> !tell XiXaQ about rootsudo
[09:40] <frogzoo> XiXaQ: you can /msg ubotu
[09:40] <Flannel> compengi: you need to enable universe
[09:40] <Flannel> !tell compengi about universe
[09:42] <lando> anyone got a good script to replace filename spaces with underscores
[09:42] <Matii> Hey gays, If I now download the Edgy RC adn intall it fresh, do I need to dl the final version?
[09:43] <crimsun> Matii: no, you can update && dist-upgrade to it
[09:43] <Flannel> Matii: no, you'll update to the final
[09:43] <Matii> Good, cos I think I'm installing windows for dual boot =(
[09:43] <Snottlebocket> besides being free, what advantages does ubuntu have over windows?
[09:43] <compengi> Flannel, sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:43] <compengi> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found O.o
[09:44] <Flannel> compengi: you need an editor in there, is that command given on the wiki? (which page, so I can fix it)
[09:44] <Matii> compengi: Omg
[09:44] <Flannel> compengi: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:44] <Matii> compengi: Do you just switched to ubuntu?
[09:44] <Matii> did*
[09:45] <compengi> yes yesterday i just installed it
[09:45] <compengi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[09:45] <Matii> Ok
[09:45] <starsky_hutchy> !windows
[09:45] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:45] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: all the software is free, you can modify it for your use, it's quite stable and compared to XP, very fast on older hardware
[09:45] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: the filesystem has a lot of benefits, including symbolic links and other goodies
[09:45] <Snottlebocket> is there a big switch in gui? ie am i going to be working at half speed for weeks while i figure it out?
[09:45] <ziabice> re all
[09:46] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: what did you do on windows? just email and web browsing? or what
[09:46] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, you'll find it amazing. :)
[09:46] <vorbote> Flannel: no, unless you are a "power user".
[09:46] <Snottlebocket> i do flash development, bit of graphic work, some low end coding and website building
[09:46] <vorbote> Pardon, that was for Snottlebocket
[09:46] <compengi> Flannel, that error i got is the first time, i did before alot changes in source list but didn't get any familliar error like this one =/
[09:47] <Snottlebocket> i guess windows specific i mostly browse, email and manage my files i guess, i just need to make sure i can keep working with my graphics programs
[09:47] <compengi> Flannel, why is that
[09:48] <Snottlebocket> not to mention avoiding comptabibility issues with my coworkers
[09:48] <bob23654> hello
[09:48] <Flannel> compengi: why is what?  the nano? because you need to use a text editor ;)
[09:48] <compengi> Flannel, how to get it?
[09:48] <Flannel> compengi: you already have it: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list will work fine
[09:48] <ziabice> can someone help me before I fire a bug to launchpad?
[09:49] <starsky_hutchy> !compengi
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compengi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <compengi> but before i used only sudo /etc/....
[09:49] <ziabice> I'm on a fresh updated dapper to edgy
[09:49] <Flannel> ziabice: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[09:49] <Snottlebocket> is this channel always this busy?
[09:49] <bob23654> does anyone know if Ubuntu supports USB ADSL modems???
[09:49] <ziabice> Flannel: thanks! ;)
[09:49] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: if you want to keep on using the exact same programs, and there is no Linux version for them, that might be a problem (but nothing wmware would not solve)
[09:49] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, almost. sometimes even more. :)
[09:50] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: the only issue you'll run into is flash development, I have no idea how/if flash will work in wine
[09:50] <Snottlebocket> see that doesn't mean anything to me, "in wine"?
[09:50] <tabman> when I try to install ubuntu from boot cd I get the following error: PCI:cannot allocate resource region 3 of device
[09:51] <Lynoure> !wine
[09:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:51] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, wine is a compatibility layer for Linux. Lets you run windows programs in Linux.
[09:51] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: windows and linux are different, they can't run the 'same' programs (you can run the same programs, but not the same exact file)
[09:51] <Snottlebocket> adobe has a linux flash i think
[09:51] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: you can get firefox for windows, and firefox for linux, for instance, but they're not identical
[09:51] <compengi> Flannel, but before i used only sudo /etc/....
[09:51] <Flannel> compengi: and that won't work
[09:52] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, it's free software. you have to ask, research. no one has obligations or anything. No one
[09:52] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, 's even forcing you
[09:52] <compengi> Flannel, it was lol, before i reinstalled ubuntu
[09:52] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: you'll want to find out for sure
[09:52] <Snottlebocket> hm, i figured when you produce a flash file in linux it would be identical to the file produced by a windows flash, mac and windows have that in common
[09:52] <Flannel> compengi: no, seriously, that absolutely will not do anything.  Well, except error.
[09:52] <Snottlebocket> flash always banks on working perfectly cross platform
[09:53] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: right, flash files will.  But the programs you use won't.  Flash runs in the flash player, not on linux itself
[09:53] <Snottlebocket> ah right, got it
[09:53] <Snottlebocket> hm, maybe i should find a cheap second pc to try it out on first before putting it on my main machine
[09:54] <zen2> anyone wanna help with a update i am havveing hassles with
[09:54] <zen2> http://pastebin.ca/213184
[09:54] <zen2> is the paste link
[09:54] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: have you tried a live-cd yet?
[09:54] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: that's one solution, the other is to dualboot, and have them both on the same machine (you run one, or the other, sort of thing) to try.  Of course, you can also try the liveCD, if you want to just take a gander
[09:54] <Snottlebocket> nope, i'm gathering as much info as i can before doing anything
[09:54] <Snottlebocket> what is the live cd exactly?
[09:55] <Snottlebocket> i know i should look this stuff up, there's just so much ubuntu info i'm trying to read everything at once
[09:55] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: it does not change anything in your system, but lets you try Ubuntu off a cd
[09:55] <Snottlebocket> ah, i'll check that one out, seems convenient
[09:55] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: your computer will boot to the CD, and run entirely off the CD (and slower because of that, obviously).  As long as you don't click the "install" link on the desktop, your computer will be untouched
[09:55] <bob23654> does anyone know if Ubuntu supports USB ADSL modems???
[09:56] <Snottlebocket> thanks guys, i'll do some reading and try the live cd
[09:56] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, what kind of internet connection do you have?
[09:56] <Snottlebocket> cable, through a router
[09:56] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, with a password, or are you connected once you plug the cable?
[09:57] <Snottlebocket> connected right away
[09:57] <Snottlebocket> only had to tinker a bit with the ip and ethermask settings and such
[09:58] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, right. Try out the live cd. I think you'll like it. There are irc clients available and you shouldn't have any difficulties connecting.
[09:58] <XiXaQ> bob23654, have you tried?
[09:59] <compengi> Flannel, how do i get mp3 formats working?
[09:59] <XiXaQ> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:59] <mwe> !mp3 > compengi
[09:59] <Snottlebocket> hm, flash only has mac and windows installers, i could have sworn they had a linux one too
[09:59] <winterweaver> could someone help me?? I type this command: sysctl hw.nvidia.registry , but I get a error message -  error: "hw.nvidia.registry" is an unknown key... I'm trying to enable fast writes on my nvidia
[09:59] <mwe> Snottlebocket: it does
[09:59] <mwe> Snottlebocket: only version 7 though unless you use mozplugger
[10:00] <Flannel> mwe: not "Flash" the writer
[10:00] <mwe> oh
[10:00] <mwe> right
[10:00] <Flannel> well, I have no idea if it does or not, but you're talking about the player, I know that much
[10:00] <Lynoure> There are some open source Flash development tools
[10:00] <Lynoure> but I have no idea how good they are
[10:00] <starsky_hutchy> !flash9 > Snottlebocket
[10:01] <Snottlebocket> ah yeah the player, i need the actual development program though for production
[10:01] <bob23654> does anyone know if Ubuntu supports USB ADSL modems???
[10:01] <Snottlebocket> if i can actually make flash on ubuntu it's kind of useless to me
[10:01] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions too. :)
[10:01] <vorbote> !mp3
[10:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:01] <zen2> http://pastebin.ca/213194
[10:01] <Foc> !flash9 > Foc
[10:01] <zen2> can someone read this and tell me whaty i did wrong
[10:02] <Snottlebocket> thanks, i was kind of overwhelmed with the amount of ubuntu info and help pages online
[10:02] <starsky_hutchy> bob23654, you seem to be lost. try googling.
[10:02] <mwe> I'm pretty sure adobe doesn't provide the flash writer for linux, Snottlebocket
[10:03] <Lynoure> bob23654: if I remember right, some of them but not all of them
[10:03] <vorbote> bob23654:  Check http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/ for most el-cheapo boxes.
[10:03] <Snottlebocket> hm, well i doubt ubuntu is usefull for me right now then considering i work at home as much as at the office
[10:03] <compengi> Flannel, i did the source.list thing but still can't get results in synaptic =/
[10:04] <vorbote> bob23654: the speedtouch drivers are in the repositories (in multiverse I'm afraid)
[10:04] <bob23654> ok anyone know about Dynalink?
[10:04] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: if you want, you could run Windows in a virtual machine, and Flash on that
[10:04] <vorbote> bob23654: AFAIK, that would work with eciadsl
[10:04] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, use wine if you are desperate.
[10:04] <starsky_hutchy> !wine > Snottlebocket
[10:04] <mwe> Snottlebocket: if you need to use a lot of windows only tools all the time linux is probably a bad choice :)
[10:05] <bob23654> Eciadsl does support my modem can anyone help me with that program?
[10:05] <Snottlebocket> i'm not desperate really, i was looking into ubuntu as a windows alternative, i'm not all that interested in running both side by side
[10:05] <vorbote> bob23654: but don't take my word at face value.
[10:05] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: but I can understand if that feels like a hassle, but on the other hand it adds to security
[10:05] <Snottlebocket> besides i do flash a lot, if i can't run flash in linux i'd end up doing ubuntu from 11pm to 12pm while i do some personal stuff
[10:05] <winterweaver> forget flash ^.^ support FOSS :P
[10:06] <winterweaver> i'm not one to talk .... I'm not using all open source software either :P
[10:06] <Snottlebocket> how memory efficient is using wine?
[10:06] <winterweaver> well... as I understand really good
[10:06] <winterweaver> I ran photoshop on it once... no probs
[10:07] <winterweaver> ran at eh same speed as my extinct win box
[10:07] <bob23654> is anyone here running Eciadsl?
[10:07] <Snottlebocket> i still think i'll try out the live cd and then install ubuntu on a second box once i find one for my "office" kind of needs while sticking with a windows machine for all my graphics work
[10:08] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, Flash is proprietary. Ubuntu's not.
[10:08] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, the Gimp is really cool.
[10:08] <starsky_hutchy> bob23654, not me.
[10:08] <vorbote> bob23654: I haven't used it in a log while, but eciadsl is easy to install and configure. Check the database in the web site, compile and install the source code (always more up-to-date than the copy in the repos), configure with the supplied script, launch, use pppoeconf to configure PPPoE if necessary, add startup script to /etc/init.d
[10:08] <Draconicus> I'm having some trouble with a wireless PCI card. iwconfig sees my wireless network, but I don't know how to make it connect. Could somebody help me?
[10:08] <Snottlebocket> gimp is cool, but it's no photoshop by a longshot
[10:08] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, just boot from live cd, install wine and install your Flash Studio or whatever it is called.
[10:08] <sky123> Anybody here use plone for content management? and...curious what you think of it...
[10:09] <Snottlebocket> i will xi
[10:09] <winterweaver> snottlebocket: the new Gimp should be released soon... with new graphics libs
[10:09] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, keep in mind that the system will be much slower because you're running from the cd.
[10:09] <winterweaver> we have been waiting for 4 years :P
[10:09] <starsky_hutchy> sky123, I heard zope is kind of grand daddy. :)
[10:09] <Snottlebocket> anyway, i'm gonna go work through some information and putz about with this live cd, thanks for all the help guys, this has been one of the most informative and helpfull channels i've been in so far on irc
[10:09] <Ruudi> hi
[10:10] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, glad to hear it. :)
[10:10] <Jsgmob> Zope is pretty cool
[10:10] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, remember to read docs. it's a great operating system but only if you're willing to invest in a bit of time.
[10:10] <compengi> i need a good source list where can i find it?
[10:10] <sky123> starsk_hutchy: yeah Im looking at Zope too...which is pretty darn extensive...The question really is whether it will support vhosts for multiple sites..and make the matter of admin easy..
[10:10] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, and btw, glad to hear that.
[10:10] <Snottlebocket> i am starksy, there were just so many docs i decided to come here for some quick condensed info to make some decisions
[10:10] <winterweaver> I've got a bit more advanced question for those with cewl Linux-Fu
[10:10] <Snottlebocket> anywho take care all
[10:10] <XiXaQ> compengi, source-o-matic?
[10:11] <Jsgmob> Zope can do that
[10:11] <XiXaQ> compengi, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:11] <winterweaver> could someone help me?? I type this command: sysctl hw.nvidia.registry , but I get a error message -  error: "hw.nvidia.registry" is an unknown key... I'm trying to enable fast writes on my nvidia
[10:11] <winterweaver> what am I doing wrong ?
[10:11] <compengi> XiXaQ, i didn't get good results in repost =/
[10:11] <Draconicus> Nobody in here knows about wireless?
[10:11] <Draconicus> !wireless
[10:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:11] <starsky_hutchy> sky123, Zope is really extensive man.
[10:12] <starsky_hutchy> sky123, it's certainly worth a shot.
[10:12] <sky123> Jsgmob: Im try to help out a couple of schools, manage their own content and thought that this would be a good idea...
[10:12] <winterweaver> go for zope
[10:12] <compengi> XiXaQ, i'm using this source list but i'm searching for software in synaptic i don't get results
[10:13] <XiXaQ> compengi, have you reloaded?
[10:13] <compengi> XiXaQ, i did apt-get update and upgrade
[10:13] <winterweaver> look up plone if you want, runs off zope if I'm not mistaken ?
[10:14] <sky123> Zope it is then... The goal is that I have established some really good repore with helping some schools with minimal budget and thought what a cool way for them to manage their sites etc... The goal of course being to manage it... plus the edubuntu thin client stuff is very cool too.
[10:14] <XiXaQ> compengi, which version of Ubuntu do you run, and what software is it you cannot find?
[10:15] <starsky_hutchy> winterweaver, zope is grand daddy of all meaning, it can host php stuffs, python's plone etc..
[10:15] <sky123> Plus...the use of wiki's for knowledgebases abd the use of moodle or something like that allows for online classes...
[10:15] <sky123> Is anyone on here involved heavily with the Education portion of Ubuntu or Edubuntu??
[10:15] <compengi> XiXaQ, i'm running dapper and i'm searching for a gnomebaker which should be found
[10:15] <Hal_> I am running ndiswrapper on a netgear wg111v2, kernel 2.6.x with an AMD 64 processor. Have just recently discovered a very strange issue whereby I can ONLY ping given domains such as google.com, yahoo.com, but domains like msn.com will not work.
[10:16] <winterweaver> starsky_hutchy, cewl ... now I know for future ref ^.^
[10:16] <utnubu> i have 4 users running on my linux box in ubuntu and dont know how they got started or how to end them. how could i kill them
[10:16] <Draconicus> My wireless card is seen properly by iwconfig, though it's ath0. ifup won't do anything with it.
[10:16] <sky123> Id like to work with someone here...that deals speicically with the Edubuntu end of things..and talk about grading software, calendering ..etc..
[10:16] <Draconicus> It says it doesn't exist.
[10:16] <Draconicus> Any thoughts?
[10:16] <lw> i  cant login system with another account, who can help me ??
[10:16] <XiXaQ> compengi, do you get any errors while updating?
[10:17] <sky123> lw: you at least one account setup right??
[10:17] <winterweaver> sky123, I think there is a edubuntu channel
[10:17] <winterweaver> sky123, I'm sure you will find heaps more info there
[10:17] <sky123> winterweaver: will check it out thnx
[10:17] <compengi> XiXaQ, i have like a link that gave you the best edited source list, but it's gone. no it's working fine while updating
[10:17] <lw> sky123,yes i can use current account
[10:17] <Hal_> I am running ndiswrapper on a netgear wg111v2, kernel 2.6.x with an AMD 64 processor. Have just recently discovered a very strange issue whereby I can ONLY ping given domains such as google.com, yahoo.com, but domains like msn.com will not work. However, if I try to access google through a browser, it won't return anything. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:18] <XiXaQ> compengi, have you tried synaptic?
[10:18] <Draconicus> Please help me...
[10:18] <lw> sky123 ,but the other account cannot login
[10:18] <winterweaver> Hal_, firewall, mebe?? I dunno... I'm still a bit newbish
[10:18] <sky123> lw: if you say sudo su , then do an adduser...that will manually do it.. but if you look at System tab, and go into users/groups that should be a good place to start ;)
[10:19] <Hal_> The thought had crossed my mind, but where in ubuntu would you configure it?
[10:19] <winterweaver> Hal_, install Firestarter to help with firewall
[10:19] <compengi> XiXaQ, i'm searching now in synaptic for the software but the results always seem to short before i had reinstalled my os =/
[10:19] <winterweaver> Hal_ , Firestarter is in the Package manager :)
[10:19] <Hal_> It's very difficult for me to install anything winterweaver because I have to go back & forth to get all the package dependencies...
[10:20] <sky123> lw: or are you implying that they still cant login after adding them??
[10:20] <Hal_> OK...do you think it has many dependencies?
[10:20] <lw> sky123, i found when i delete this file /etc/network/interfaces , i can login with the other account
[10:20] <sky123> ??
[10:20] <winterweaver> Hal_, cannot remember... I'll check quick
[10:20] <sky123> weird
[10:20] <Draconicus> Craptastic. I forgot my wireless password. I'll have to reset the box.
[10:20] <sky123> lw: over ssh or directly??
[10:21] <lw> directly
[10:21] <winterweaver> Hal_: oooh yeah... quite a bit of dependancies >.<
[10:21] <winterweaver> but if you use the Synaptic Package manager, it should install them all for you
[10:21] <sky123> thats pretty funny...help me configure the wireless...oh i forgot my pass to my ap...
[10:21] <sky123> lol
[10:21] <Hal_> Yes you see that makes it extemely difficult, because depencies have dependencies
[10:21] <Hal_> lol
[10:22] <winterweaver> Hal_: but if you use the Synaptic Package manager, it should install them all for you
[10:22] <Hal_> I spent about 2 hours going back and forth yesterday just to install ndiswrapper...
[10:22] <XiXaQ> compengi, well
[10:22] <winterweaver> Hal_: That's what I did
[10:22] <XiXaQ> compengi, I don't have anything to offer.. I'm sorry. Good luck though.
[10:22] <sky123> Hal_: I feel for you its amazing how many people DONT read the wiki's here or dont even try....
[10:23] <compengi> XiXaQ, search for gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in your synaptic, do you get any results?
[10:23] <Hal_> sky123: Regarding what? I don't even know where to begin.
[10:23] <lw> no solution?
[10:24] <winterweaver> !firewall > Hal_
[10:24] <sky123> Hal_: ndiwrapper....that should be just a simple sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper....
[10:24] <Hal_> Yes but if you'd read my question you would know that I can't just apt-get because my connection isn't working.
[10:24] <sky123> lw: this is very strange...that the network portion would be tied to your login... when trying to login directly....
[10:24] <sky123> lw: "how" did you add the account??
[10:25] <lw> it was created months ago
[10:25] <sky123> lw: need more info as to whether it ever worked before..or...
[10:25] <lw> and my friend have been using that account for a long time
[10:26] <sky123> lw: any work saved in that account ??
[10:26] <Hal_> Thank you winterweaver.
[10:26] <lw> no,
[10:26] <sky123> lw: id also see if /home/thenameof user exists....
[10:26] <sky123> ??
[10:27] <lw> sky123, i deleted it and recreacte it
[10:27] <compengi> Flannel, you there?
[10:27] <lw> and chown
[10:28] <sky123> lw: did that fix the issue or??
[10:28] <Flannel> compengi: pastebin your sources.list
[10:28] <Flannel> !paste
[10:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:28] <lw> sky123, no
[10:28] <sky123> lw: did you do that manually or....use the gui tools??
[10:28] <compengi> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27642/
[10:29] <sky123> split??
[10:29] <lw> i did it using command
[10:29] <sky123> was that a split that just occured or did a bunch of peeps get kicked??
[10:29] <Flannel> compengi: you need to uncomment those lines (remove the #)
[10:29] <lw> because the  User and Group  is not reponding
[10:30] <sky123> lw: Im thinking maybe a  sudo su first. then userdel the username in question...then useradd the user... then passwd the user
[10:30] <sky123> lw: then try again...
[10:30] <compengi> Flannel, all?
[10:30] <porkpie__> Morning guy's ....I am trying to install xen and on reboot I get "error 13 invalid or unsupported format press any key to continue"   ???
[10:31] <sky123> lw:  then you might need to add them to the /etc/sudoers fileto allow them to sudo...
[10:31] <Flannel> compengi: not the bottom ones, just the universe multiverse pair
[10:31] <witless> any idea, off-hand, why my networking should just stop working after a reboot?
[10:31] <sky123> lw: did you try that too already??
[10:31] <compengi> Flannel, paste the new list
[10:31] <lw> sky123, i don't want it to be sudoer
[10:32] <Flannel> compengi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27644/
[10:32] <sky123> lw: then okay...you wont need to do a darn thing with sudoers... just do the other stuff i posted.
[10:32] <sky123> lw: sudo su..then userdel -r homersimpson...then useradd homersimpon
[10:33] <sky123> lw: then passwd homersimpson
[10:33] <sky123> or whatever...:)
[10:33] <dank> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:33] <sky123> !ridlin
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ridlin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <lw> sky123, i m doing it
[10:34] <compengi> Flannel, updating now
[10:37] <S9010_R50B> I've just installed Dapper Server on my box, and it won't boot past GRUB.  it simply reboots every time, back through the bios, loads grub, attempts to boot, fails, restarts.
[10:37] <S9010_R50B> any ideas?
[10:37] <MrHair> help. neither 6.06 nor 6.1rc will even get past the first progress splash screen when trying to boot. VIA motherboard, so i've tried every "acpi=..." that i know of and they all generate kernel panic
[10:38] <sky123> lw: any luck??
[10:38] <MrHair> i could put acpi=martians_have_landed and it would panic
[10:39] <Hal_> I am running Dapper Drake on an AMD 64, I have recently installed ndiswrapper and am using a windows INF driver for a Netgear wg111v2 wireless adaptor. My network access is limited, I receive pings only from select domains, firefox won't work, and nor will gaim, I am completely stumped. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:39] <lw> sky123: i will logout to try
[10:40] <sky123> S9010_R50B: My gues potentially would be a master boot record issue....or....did you add a new device or memory to the box...before you built it???I ran into an issue where i had a nasty irq conflict and things just would boot...started unplugging stuff and voila...
[10:40] <XiXaQ> compengi, yes, it's in the universe
[10:40] <compengi> XiXaQ, but i don't get any result =/
[10:41] <sky123> S9010_R50B: also im not sure..if there is a no-apic option at boot time...that might cause issues????
[10:41] <S9010_R50B> sky123: i've just done a clean install.. no new memory.. but when i installed it,, the bios had mbr protect, on... should i reinstall the whole thing with mbr protect off?
[10:41] <Hal_> !universe
[10:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:41] <sky123> yes
[10:42] <MrHair> btw i have also tried no-apic and no-lapic separately and together
[10:42] <S9010_R50B> sky123, i always thought that what ami bioses call "Chipaware virus" was really more of a throwback, and that clever OSes could get past it anyway..
[10:43] <sasper> hey all. i just installed a fresh version of dapper drake and want to run my LCD monitor at its default resolution. how can i do this? the highest option is 1024x768
[10:43] <sky123> S9010_R50B: on google somewhere...I read this may cause issues...but also on google...if you want to learn a little through linux...there is a way to flush mbr in fdisk through...uhmm..passing a command to /dev/null...Someone correct me on this if im way off...
[10:45] <sky123> sasper: System, Preferences, screen resolution??
[10:46] <sasper> sky123: 1024x768 is the highest available
[10:47] <MrHair> sasper as i said i havent even got the cd to boot but perhaps manual edit your X configuration would do it
[10:48] <sky123> sasper: hmmmm...hang on im looking for a manual way...but the last thing you want is to F up the X window session... its bitch undoing it..
[10:48] <sky123> MrHair: yep...that was where I was headed..
[10:48] <sasper> do i need to install different nvidia drivers?
[10:48] <MrHair> if u leave the resolutions that work, in place, you can ctrl-alt-+ and -
[10:49] <illuvator> !#beryl
[10:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:50] <sky123> sasper: the /etc/X11/xorg.conf section for "screen" you try to add your entry....and see if it "takes effect"
[10:50] <sasper> i'll work on it. thanks for the advice
[10:50] <sky123> MrHair: right on...good advice...
[10:50] <MrHair> that bot has any info on making a via motherboard like ubuntu? hehe
[10:51] <Hal_> I am running Dapper Drake on an AMD 64, I have recently installed ndiswrapper and am using a windows INF driver for a Netgear wg111v2 wireless adaptor. My network access is limited, I receive pings only from select domains, firefox won't work, and nor will gaim, I am completely stumped. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:51] <MistaED> Hal_: using a 64-bit windoze driver?
[10:51] <sky123> Hal_ : is the network wpa protected?? or what encryption are you using??
[10:51] <Hal_> No protection.
[10:51] <MistaED> nm
[10:52] <MrHair> it doesnt like my other *nix's either but in them i was at least able to kill acpi
[10:52] <Hal_> No it's not a 64 bit windows driver.
[10:53] <MistaED> maybe ndiswrapper can convert 32-bit calls to 64-bit for a 64-bit kernel? *shrugs*
[10:53] <sky123> Hal_: so you have verified that you get a link light or indicator that the wireless is up and running??
[10:53] <Hal_> Well, the activity light on the adaptor blinks once, and once only. But then it receives pings from google and still won't blink.
[10:54] <Hal_> So the wireless should be working...
[10:54] <sky123> Hal_: Im not entirely sure if it will help...but there is "network manager applet" that can be installed to aid with finding the AP/Network in question and connecting...
[10:54] <sky123> Hal_: do you have that installed too??
[10:54] <S9010_R50B> thanks for the help sky123, i'm going to go and reinstall, then try again
[10:55] <Hal_> You mean the gtk interface, where you select etho1, wireless1 etc?
[10:55] <Hal_> I have that.
[10:55] <sky123> S9010_R50B:good luck with that...it will truly be interesting to find out what it is that is causing that....
[10:55] <whyso> if i have a tar.gz, how do i install it?
[10:55] <TheColonial> hi all
[10:56] <Hal_> I looked at a network monitor, and while it pinged a couple of domains, it showed activity on the wireless connection.
[10:56] <sky123> Hal_: its actually a manager...one sec while i find the exact name
[10:56] <TheColonial> i have a question about iwconfig if someone wouldn't mind helping.
[10:56] <TheColonial> for some reason every time i try to use it to configure my interface, it hangs...
[10:56] <Hal_> whyso: in a terminal:
[10:56] <Hal_> tar -zxvf [PACKAGE NAME]
[10:56] <Hal_> To extract.
[10:56] <TheColonial> and something fundamental happens that stops me from doing various things on the system, so i have to reboot
[10:57] <TheColonial> does anyone have any ideas why this might happen?
[10:57] <sky123> Hal_: its apt-get network-manager....you have ebabled all the additional repositories??
[10:57] <sky123> Hal_: my bad that is  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[10:57] <Hal_> I can't use apt-get sky123, I don't have an internet connection on the box in question.
[10:58] <Hal_> I am windows right now on my GF's computer.
[10:58] <sky123> Hal_: can you ssh in?
[10:58] <Hal_> Furthermore, I already have network-manager.
[10:58] <sky123> ahh.. okay
[10:58] <Hal_> That's exactly what I'm using to connect.
[10:58] <sky123> Hal_: so when you ping google no problem with responses??
[10:58] <Hal_> None at all.
[10:58] <Hal_> BUT!
[10:59] <Hal_> If I try to use google in an explorer, no results.
[10:59] <sky123> Hal_: do you have any weird proxy setting set??
[10:59] <Hal_> It's bizzare, I installed the firestarter package to see if it was a firewall interfering with it, but no such luck.
[10:59] <Hal_> No lol
[10:59] <sky123> Hal_: I should'nthave used weird...i meant any proxy settings...
[10:59] <sky123> lol
[11:00] <Hal_> No I don't use a proxy.
[11:00] <Hal_> And I checked all that in the broswer.
[11:00] <sky123> sky123:<-----thinking........hmmmmmm
[11:00] <Hal_> brower*
[11:00] <Hal_> Yeh it's got me stumped too.
[11:01] <sky123> Hal_: so pinging sites like yahoo, etc all work...in the terminal then...
[11:01] <Hal_> All I can guess is that it's just a DUD windows driver that ndiswrapper can't use, or that my wireless router is having trouble.
[11:01] <Hal_> Yes.
[11:01] <Hal_> But msn.com won't work.
[11:01] <Hal_> LOL ironically
[11:01] <sky123> MSN doesnt work period....
[11:01] <sky123> lol
[11:01] <Hal_> Hey, lets not start we'll never finish :)
[11:02] <sky123> ;)
[11:02] <whyso> Hal_: thanks!!!
[11:02] <Hal_> Look don't worry. I'll try a different driver or check my router settings. I just pray it's not an issue somewhere else.
[11:02] <lw> i still have the problem
[11:03] <Hal_> cya
[11:03] <sky123> Hal_: im trying to understand the interaction part of why the darn terminal would work....but not the browser...weird..
[11:04] <sky123> lw: same issue...huh...uhmmmm.. hey! try to sudo su with your own account... that will make you root.....then type su <name of user> and see if you can do that..
[11:04] <MrHair> btw whats a good download manager for windows, to download iso's? IE cant do it to save its life
[11:04] <nolimitsoya> someone has got a fu dsn, simple as that :)
[11:05] <nolimitsoya> MrHair, firefox ;)
[11:05] <nolimitsoya> getright works well if you need a full download suite
[11:05] <lw> sky123: i did it but no help
[11:06] <sky123> lw: also as sudo su take a look and tail -f /var/log/messages in another screen and check to see if attempts are logged???
[11:06] <MrHair> nope i dont. well i might at some point but its easier for me just to put files where they should go as i get them than to set up rules in something like that
[11:06] <MrHair> but ty for reminding me i had firefox LOL
[11:07] <MrHair> <-- senile
[11:07] <MrHair> <-- sometimers' disease, sometimes i remember and sometimes i dont
[11:07] <sky123> Hal_: if you are around....wonder if port 80 requests are blocked...
[11:07] <nolimitsoya> getright lets you place files manualy as well, but it gives you the option to add alternate download sources for the same file, resume aborted downloads, open up miltiple connections and so on and so forth
[11:08] <MrHair> i had it like 4 yrs ago when i was trying to put the whole internet on my hd
[11:08] <MrHair> now... the internet IS my hd
[11:09] <patient> Hi mrHair
[11:09] <sky123> MrHair: you and Larry Page would have something in common
[11:09] <MrHair> hi patient
[11:10] <MrHair> lol
[11:10] <rixth> How can I record what is going onscreen? (I alrady know of istanbul)
[11:10] <winterweaver> can some one tell me why I can't make install my nvidia drivers ?
[11:11] <MrHair> im laughing, not because i have any idea who larry page is, but because im relieved im not the only one
[11:11] <sky123> winterweaver: potentially missing the build-essential package??
[11:11] <sky123> !build-essential
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:11] <patient> how do you manage internet with Ubuntu, for I used windows til now.
[11:11] <sky123> !nvidia
[11:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:12] <jordan> saluti
[11:13] <sky123> patient: managing the internet not even our buddy George Bush can do that...but browsing the internet...firefox, epiphany, on of those browsers i guess...
[11:13] <winterweaver> sky123, I installed make, and I've downloaded the NVidia drivers
[11:13] <MrHair> patient if you are directing that at me, i am the wrong one to ask, i am here because i cant even get the install cd to boot
[11:13] <winterweaver> sky123, but I get this message: Makefile:17: *** missing separator.   I can configure it with various tools, but ifup doesn't see its interface. The network has been detected, but I can't connect to it. Any ideas?
[11:14] <jordan> im french
[11:15] <winterweaver> sky123, kk I'll try
[11:15] <mohamed> can anyone help me with UBUNTU software installations
[11:15] <mohamed> its starting to REALLY REALLY annoy me. and i would like to get into open source
[11:15] <mohamed> ] ???
[11:15] <sky123> what part of install???
[11:15] <jordan> salut
[11:15] <mohamed> well these are the following applications
[11:16] <mohamed> GNUCASH
[11:16] <jordan> non
[11:16] <mohamed> MPG123
[11:16] <jordan> thrhyzbt4
[11:16] <mohamed> thats about it
[11:16] <jordan> frensh
[11:16] <sky123> mohamed: i think...that a good start enabling some of the repositories..is a start...then I can try to help with the others...
[11:17] <sky123> mohamed: do you have that already done??
[11:17] <jordan> hte
[11:17] <mohamed> :) ok thats the prob im still new to linux
[11:17] <mohamed> ive been reading quite bit
[11:17] <mohamed> and so forht, it interests me, but i got no clue where to begin
[11:17] <jordan> its a racing
[11:17] <mohamed> i mainly use my pc for office applicaitons
[11:17] <mohamed> so i need to install gnucash as an accounting package
[11:18] <mohamed> help would greatly be appreciated
[11:18] <jordan> yes
[11:18] <sky123> mohamed: System, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager
[11:18] <peeps> anyone know a livecd that is quick to boot?  even if it just goes to console?
[11:18] <peeps> for just a basic sort of rescue cd
[11:19] <jordan> ps3
[11:19] <sky123> mohamed: then there is a settings..tab then repositories..and activate those..and follow directions...
[11:19] <sky123> mohamed: then do a search for the packages in question... and it shoud be good
[11:19] <mohamed> is that in ADD NEW PROGRAMS ??
[11:19] <jordan>  no conpri
[11:19] <jordan> gtuggyggu yufdtrszrh544354
[11:20] <sky123> mohamed:nope...the System, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager....then settings
[11:20] <Draconicus> I'm shocked that nobody in here knows wireless.
[11:20] <mohamed> IM STILL SHOCKED im finding this ubuntu so hard to use
[11:20] <mohamed> :(
[11:21] <sky123> Draconicus: what was the q??
[11:21] <Draconicus> mohamed: Ubuntu is not for people not willing to listen and learn.
[11:21] <compengi> how do i install application .bin?
[11:21] <sky123> mohamed: did you find it??
[11:21] <compengi> Flannel, btw it worked thank you
[11:22] <Draconicus> sky123: ifup doesn't see my wirless interface, but ifconfig and iwconfig do. I need ifup to see it or I can't use it. Can you help me?
[11:22] <mohamed> sky123, : :( no im completely lost in ubuntu
[11:22] <mohamed> the only things i found was firefox, and xchat and the usual stuff it installs with
[11:22] <sky123> mohamed: you have the System on top of the screen right??
[11:23] <mohamed> yes
[11:23] <sky123> click it
[11:23] <quandar> Woah, this is weird, opera and firefox are defaulting to all caps for displaying text...
[11:23] <mohamed> ok it then says preferences and so forth
[11:23] <Rookie_> !vectorlinux
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vectorlinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <drbashir> I've connected my IDE cable to my Primary slave drive after fully booted up, can I somehow make Ubuntu detect the disk?
[11:23] <Draconicus> quandar: That certainly is odd. Did you change any fonts recently?
[11:23] <sky123> mohamed: right...click on administration
[11:23] <quandar> not any of the ones firefox uses
[11:24] <sky123> mohamed: then synaptic package manager
[11:24] <mohamed> ok i found synaptic now what ...
[11:24] <sky123> mohamed: it will prompt you for your password
[11:24] <Draconicus> quandar: Are you sure about that? Firefox will use your system-wide fonts.
[11:24] <mohamed> ok i entered my password
[11:24] <sky123> mohamed: then setting
[11:24] <quandar> Draconicus: I will make sure
[11:24] <mohamed> ok settings...
[11:24] <sky123> Draconicus: one sec..
[11:24] <mohamed> it brings up another menue
[11:25] <sky123> then repositories..
[11:25] <sky123> check em all
[11:25] <mohamed> click and add all
[11:26] <mohamed> ?
[11:26] <sky123> mohamed: then yep
[11:26] <webben> quandar: what happens with IE?
[11:26] <quandar> webben: you mean through wine
[11:26] <mohamed> ok one second
[11:26] <sky123> mohamed: then close.. it will prompt you for the next step
[11:26] <webben> quandar: ah, sorry, thought i was in a different channel for a moment
[11:26] <mohamed> once i click them what button to i click AUTHENTICATE OR ADD
[11:26] <mohamed> ?
[11:26] <MrHair> well i dont feel so bad now... at least one post per page on the forums has someone who is hanging at install, and on various machines too
[11:26] <quandar> webben: hehe no problem
[11:27] <webben> quandar: is everything in the same font on the pages or are they all caps in multiple fonts?
[11:27] <sky123> mohamed: just add then close when you have the repos all checked...
[11:28] <quandar> webben: I have noticed that bolded and italics are not all caps, however normal text is
[11:28] <mohamed> ok its downloading stuff
[11:28] <mohamed> ?
[11:28] <mohamed> now what
[11:28] <drbashir> When I add my other harddrive to Primary slave, GRUB starts to complain in stage 1.5 about error 22
[11:29] <drbashir> When I do not connect it, there is no problem...
[11:29] <sky123> mohamed: now if you do a "search" for gnucash...it should find it
[11:29] <mohamed> ok one drv
[11:29] <sky123> mohamed: then check box it
[11:30] <sky123> mohamed: mark it for install
[11:30] <mohamed> WOW IT FOUND IT
[11:30] <drbashir> gnucash really that good?
[11:30] <sky123> yep
[11:30] <sky123> brbashir: not sure...my wife owns my money...lol
[11:31] <MrHair> hahahah i could almost see mohamed jump a little in his chair
[11:31] <mohamed> sky123 : im curious will this be done for any other software i want to install on ubuntu
[11:31] <mohamed> ?
[11:31] <drbashir> lol :P
[11:31] <sky123> yes
[11:31] <drbashir> Holy crap, it depends on ALOT
[11:31] <mohamed> say for example i find an mp3 player is this the same procedure i need to follo
[11:31] <webben> quandar: and this is on all web pages?
[11:32] <MrHair> sky you could always manage the money from a monopoly game with it
[11:32] <sky123> well here is the deal guys...you can go searching via source for all of this stuff and resolve all the dependencies your self OR...have apt or synaptics do it...take your pic...
[11:32] <sky123> :)
[11:32] <webben> quandar: could you put up a screenshot?
[11:32] <mohamed> ok sky123: say i want tetris the game do i search it in synaptic
[11:32] <mohamed> ?
[11:33] <sky123> mohamed: the equivalent of it...i forget what the heck its called..my wife plays it like all day long...one sec
[11:33] <mohamed> ok
[11:33] <j`ey> to get universe packages, do I just need to uncomment the two lines in etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:33] <webben> mohamed: tetris is installed by default
[11:33] <j`ey> i cant seem to apt-get install darcs
[11:34] <webben> mohamed: go to the applications menu, then games, then "gnometris"
[11:34] <mohamed> yeah i no, im generalising sky123
[11:34] <mohamed> i used that as an example.  what i discovered yestereday was that there are a wealth of games and so forth online for download
[11:34] <mohamed> now my million dollar question is
[11:34] <mohamed> if i download the tar files and save it to a stiffy
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: yes, generally you search in synaptic for your first port of call (or an Edgy you can also use Add/Remove programs at the bottom of the Applications menu)
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: then you'd have some tar files or a stiffy
[11:35] <sky123> mohamed: take a look at j`ey's comment that is yet another way.. to do it.. is to maually " uncomment the /etc/apt/sources.list file...as sudo and that will have done essentially what you did via synaptics.
[11:35] <mohamed> how would i install that file from there
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: you'd need to compile it for the system you were running it on
[11:35] <sky123> mohamed: if you want to be super agile...learn how to use apt via command line as well.
[11:35] <MrHair> why is it, the busier i am, the more my cats love me
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: then you could run it on the system when the disk is mounted
[11:35] <sky123> mohamed: it will really make you understand how debs, dpkg and apt work
[11:36] <zen2> MrHair thats cos they see you as stressed
[11:36] <webben> MrHair: Because the busier you are the less attention you are paying to /them/, And /that/, my friend, is your job in life.
[11:36] <zen2> what else is a cat for
[11:36] <sky123> MrHair: I have one too...their cute though...and its unconditional love...:)
[11:36] <mohamed> now yestereday from command line and lot of reading i was ablke to compile gnucash
[11:36] <mohamed> but then it kicked some errors and so forht that annoyed me
[11:36] <mohamed> cause i didn no how to go roun dit
[11:37] <webben> mohamed: Why didn't you just use the packaged version?
[11:37] <MrHair> yep it is, but, cant they love me beside me as well as trying to weasel under my elbow when im typing? lol
[11:37] <mohamed> from where
[11:37] <mohamed> ?
[11:37] <mohamed> webben : From which site do i get the packaged
[11:37] <centyx> hi.
[11:37] <Mohammed> hey guys!
[11:38] <webben> mohamed: it's not in Add/Remove Programs?
[11:38] <mohamed> sky123: :) ok it installed everything, by the looks of it
[11:38] <rixth> With a VNC server, how can I _NOT_ create a new display, what if i want it to attach to localhost:0, instead of making localhost:1
[11:38] <sky123> mohamed: the equivalent would be to open a terminal and type " sudo apt-get install ksirtet
[11:38] <mohamed> but where or how do i run the program
[11:38] <sky123> without that first quote
[11:38] <Mohammed> how's the desktop live cd compared to alternate cd for installation ?
[11:38] <webben> mohamed: Applications -> Add/Remove Programs -> search for "gnucash" -> tick it -> install
[11:38] <sky123> terminal window
[11:38] <webben> mohamed: it should put itself somewhere in the Applications menu
[11:39] <sky123> webben: yep hes been through that...lol
[11:39] <webben> it didn't work?
[11:39] <sky123> yes it worked..
[11:39] <sky123> webben: now learning about apt
[11:39] <sky123> :)
[11:39] <webben> Oh okay.
[11:39] <sky123> ;)
[11:39] <mohamed> ok i click now on add applications and nothing happens
[11:39] <webben> Mohammed: apt and Add/Remove and Synaptic all deal with packages
[11:40] <drbashir> What is the command line to search for *.qif files in /media/QUICKEN BKP?
[11:40] <webben> "packages" because they are software specifically packaged for Ubuntu
[11:40] <drbashir> and sub-directories
[11:40] <sky123> right
[11:40] <centyx> drbashir: find /media/QUICKEN -iname "*.qif"
[11:40] <MrHair> rixth i did that ages ago, lemme think a bit and i might remember how i did it, as a starter have a look at the starting script and at the relevant .vncserver file
[11:41] <mohamed> webben : i goto applications > then i click ADD APPLICATIONS, AND nothing happens
[11:41] <webben> mohamed: packages come in two forms: compiled binaries (*.deb files) and source packages (which you don't need to worry about)
[11:41] <rixth> MrHair, so it is doable? I'm using tight vnc
[11:41] <sky123> webben: I did have the roughest time getting the openldap to work with TLS though...actually had to get it all from source with bdb....what biatccch
[11:41] <webben> mohamed: is Add/Remove already open (look at  the taskbar at the bottom)
[11:41] <sky123> webben: finally worked after 12 hours
[11:42] <quandar> webben: it was a font conflict, had a all caps arial mislabeled
[11:42] <webben> quandar: ah, okay
[11:42] <mohamed> webben : no i dnt think so, on my task bar i see synaptic, xchat and a web browser
[11:42] <webben> mohamed: ah, close synaptic
[11:42] <sky123> yep
[11:43] <webben> mohamed: never run synaptic, Add/Remove... and apt-get at the same time
[11:43] <MrHair> yes i do believe it is but dont shoot me if im wrong. as an alternative i did also once get the windows version to run in wine
[11:43] <sky123> mohamed: looks like you are in good hands :)
[11:43] <centyx> silver bells, silver bells, it's Christmas time in the city
[11:44] <MrHair> wb rixth. yes i do believe it is but dont shoot me if im wrong. as an alternative i did also once get the windows version to run in wine
[11:44] <gnufied> how do i install Linux Programmer's man pages on Ubuntu?
[11:45] <MrHair> and since the windows version doent know from X it shares the whole desktop as it does in windows
[11:45] <webben> mohamed: does Add/Remove work now that you've closed Synaptic?
[11:45] <s4ck3rl> how can i manually check my ext2 filesystem for errors?
[11:45] <sky123> Draconicus: I had this weird issue...but after loading the network-manager package it seemed to resolve my issue....I did have to log out and log back in though to see it in the systray
[11:45] <sky123> fsck??
[11:45] <s4ck3rl> k thx
[11:45] <rixth> MrHair, my issue is that if I have a vncserver running, and I log into it, my settings do not take effect. Like all the window controls are dull & bland. I want to be able to capture the way my desktop LOOKS
[11:46] <sky123> s4ck3rl:  Id heed that warning about the mounted file system though...it looks pretty serious..
[11:46] <eXistenZ> the mplayer plugin for ff is better than totem's. Isn't it
[11:47] <MrHair> oh. well thats just that vnc isnt using the same color depth, that will still be true even if you get it to attach to :0 so, you'll need to change that somewhere as well
[11:47] <sky123> mplayer rocks..worth the effort to get all the w32codecs etc :)
[11:47] <webben> hmmm .... guys, i get a lot of odd descriptions in Add/Remove saying "cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."
[11:47] <webben> (i'm on a pentium-m thinkpad)
[11:47] <webben> so what's that about?
[11:48] <sky123> webben: Im wondering if you need to add the proper kernel version for your laptop and then try again....but thats a guess....
[11:49] <webben> sky123: well i used to add the i686 kernel but that no longer exists (one just uses the main kernel in edgy)
[11:49] <huhmz> Hi guys, i just upgraded to edgy and now after boot i only get to console login prompt, whats up with that ya think?
[11:49] <webben> huhmz: i dunno try logging in and starting gdm
[11:49] <sky123> webben: that would be my conjecture then....for some reason the dont know for sure..
[11:49] <Terryble> Hi
[11:50] <MrHair> webben compile one
[11:50] <webben> huhmz: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:50] <huhmz> webben: im running kubuntu and i tried that, it is already running and if i restart it i only get the boot splash
[11:50] <Terryble> How I can to install the kernel source code please?
[11:50] <Rookie_> !kernelsource
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernelsource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <Rookie_> !source
[11:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:50] <webben> MrHair: I'm pretty sure I don't need a custom kernel -- for one thing packages install fine --- and secondly the message makes no sense.
[11:51] <webben> (why would all packages be impossible to install on i386)
[11:51] <centyx> do we discuss edgy in here?
[11:51] <webben> huhmz: then this question probably belongs in #kubuntu
[11:51] <webben> centyx: now, yes
[11:51] <Terryble> is it possible via "apt-get install"?
[11:51] <binfalse1> centyx: no, /join #ubuntu+1
[11:52] <centyx> hm
[11:52] <MrHair> w00t. only 20 mintill my alternative-iso is downloaded
[11:52] <webben> binfalse1: i think #ubuntu+1 is being phased out
[11:52] <binfalse1> oh
[11:52] <abli> Hi! I have a laptop with ubuntu on it and a desktop computer with debian. The desktop has an ADSL connection, and I'm trying to use that connection from the laptop. I have made this work, but somhow it broke. The two computers can ping each other, but dns doesn't work from the laptop
[11:53] <TheColonial> hi again guys, anyone happy to give me a hand with figuring out a iwconfig problem?
[11:53] <MrHair> what nameserver is set in the laptop?
[11:53] <abli> Or more precisely, it works at first, but then breaks. The the computers have fix ips.
[11:53] <binfalse1> abli: is routing and masquerading enabled on the desktop?
[11:53] <abli> MrHair, the desktop is set as the gateway on the laptop
[11:54] <mohamed> ay this add applications story still dont wanna open
[11:54] <abli> binfalse1, yes, I think so. I set that by using the "firestarter" program's gui and setting "enable internet connection sharing"
[11:55] <MrHair> gateway != nameserver necessarily
[11:55] <binfalse1> abli: i don't use firestarter. i set my iptables rules by hand.
[11:55] <abli> MrHair, how can I check what nameserver is used?
[11:56] <abli> binfalse1, Right. I wish I know that much about firewall rules.
[11:56] <binfalse1> abli: on the desktop, what is the output of "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"?
[11:56] <nolimitsoya> abli, thats whats called dns, usualy
[11:56] <nolimitsoya> dns=dynamic name server
[11:56] <abli> binfalse1: 1
[11:56] <binfalse1> abli: okay
[11:57] <binfalse1> abli: and are there any entries in the nat table: sudo iptables -t nat -L -nv   (do not paste multiple lines here)
[11:58] <binfalse1> abli: there should be something in the POSTROUTING chain
[11:58] <abli> binfalse1,  129  5877 MASQUERADE  all  --  *      ppp0    <IP_ADDRESS>/0            <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[11:58] <MrHair> i dont know in the GUI but the file /etc/resolv.conf has your name server(s) listed
[11:59] <binfalse1> abli: okay. can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> from the notebook?
[11:59] <centyx> hm. funny what a little 'hold' flag on cupsys* can do during a dist-upgrade
[11:59] <centyx> ;-s
[12:00] <centyx> hope this new cupsys client isn't still broken w/ my hp psc 1510
[12:00] <Boypanties> can some one tell me why the add applications in ubuntu wont open
[12:00] <sky123> Akasha: cool name :)
[12:00] <centyx> Boypanties: it's trying to make you cry
[12:00] <centyx> Boypanties: no, sorry, I really don't know
[12:00] <abli> Oh, I think I got it.
[12:01] <Boypanties> lol tell me bout it
[12:01] <binfalse1> abli: only a DNS issue?
[12:01] <centyx> Boypanties: I always use apt-get
[12:01] <abli> The resolv.conf was different on the laptop and on the desktop. Setting the desktops resolv.conf on the laptop appears to fixed it
[12:01] <abli> so yes, it was only DNS.
[12:01] <binfalse1> abli: so it was a DNS setting issue
[12:01] <scompany> Is there a way to capture screen while working on ubuntu?
[12:02] <scompany> Any screen capture application?
[12:02] <sky123> The problem...is many folks are getting used to the gui tools...the art of using apt is lost...kind of sad really.....
[12:02] <abli> scompany, gnome has a screenshot-taker applet
[12:02] <MrHair> i'm glad it fixed it but you need to listen a bit to abli so that you know why it fixed it ;)
[12:02] <binfalse1> abli: thats the normal testing order: 1. ping the gateway, 2. ping an ip adress that is only reachable through the gateway, 3. ping a host name
[12:02] <scompany> Can it capture video, not jut image?
[12:02] <abli> scompany, I also have heard of apps that take a video (but thats a bit complicated)
[12:02] <MrHair> to binfalse i mean lol
[12:03] <scompany> :( I need to capture video...
[12:03] <Mattc> Has someone got  2 mins for some basic questions
[12:03] <defrysk> !ask
[12:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <centyx> Mattc: just ask
[12:03] <Rookie_> !ask
[12:03] <Mattc> THanks
[12:04] <Mattc> I have broken my install trying to install xgl
[12:04] <ubuntu> god mornimg
[12:04] <Mattc> I am trying to edit the gdm files in terminal
[12:04] <scompany> Anyone else.... Is there application that captures screen to video?
[12:04] <Mattc> is it possible
[12:04] <ubuntu> hi bunbun
[12:04] <test2342> I set my screen resolution incorrectly in System->Preferences->Screen Resolution, what text file is that stored in?
[12:04] <abli> scompany, well, a hackers approach is described at http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/
[12:05] <zyclop> Mattc, define broken
[12:05] <abli> scompany, but I'll see if i can look up something more user-friendly
[12:05] <bun-bun> hello ubuntu
[12:05] <ubuntu> you motherfuking asshole
[12:05] <Mattc> it will no boot up to the graphic interface
[12:05] <bun-bun> ...
[12:05] <ubuntu> sorry
[12:05] <test2342> scompany, pyvnc2swf is good
[12:05] <binfalse1> Mattc: do you have mc installed? (midnight commander)
[12:05] <ubuntu> not to you bunbun
[12:05] <scompany> Ok, thank you abli.
[12:05] <zyclop> Mattc, have you tried xinit?
[12:05] <binfalse1> Mattc: then you can edit mcedit
[12:05] <MrHair> test2342: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[12:05] <scompany> You too, tet2342..
[12:06] <Mattc> is mcedit a terminal program?
[12:06] <binfalse1> Mattc: yes
[12:06] <Mattc> excellent
[12:06] <abli> scompany, Look in the comments section of that page. It mentions gui apps to do it.
[12:06] <scompany> ok
[12:07] <test2342> MrHair, nah, when you use the Gnome UI, it is on a per-user basis.
[12:07] <Mattc> i just typed mcedit into bash and got command not found
[12:07] <test2342> The login screen is the correct resolution
[12:07] <binfalse1> Mattc: sudo apt-get install mc
[12:08] <Mattc> nice
[12:08] <binfalse1> Mattc: good ol' norton commander clone :)
[12:08] <MrHair> ~home/.something i'd guess then, i havent even got the cd to boot lol
[12:10] <Mattc> May be I should not have tried something as complex as installing xgl on my second day at linux
[12:10] <binfalse1> Mattc: you are right
[12:10] <webben> Mattc: most definitely not
[12:10] <MrHair> switch to a vt and dig around in there with the midnight commander, you should have no trouble spotting it, its probably .Xorg.conf or similar in your home dir
[12:10] <test2342> Rephrase: How do I reset the screen resolution when it is set via System->Preferences->Screen Resolution? This is not in xorg.conf, because the login screen is the correct resolution.
[12:11] <Mattc> learning a lot in the process of fixing it though
[12:11] <test2342> MrHair, i'll take a look.
[12:12] <MrHair> switch while not logged in the troubled account tho or it might overwrite your changes on logout
[12:13] <Mattc> is there any problems installing xgl on ubuntu with a radeon 9600
[12:13] <huhmz> Hi guys, i just upgraded to edgy and now after boot i only get to console login prompt, whats up with that ya think, i get no output to the Xorg.log.0 file
[12:13] <not-a-bot> Hey
[12:13] <zyclop> anyone in here have an idea, why xsane and xscanimage keep segfaulting on me?
[12:13] <not-a-bot> Does anyone succesfully use XGL on Edgy?
[12:13] <not-a-bot> Without gnome-settings-daemon crashing?
[12:14] <not-a-bot> It looks like gnome-settings-daemon doesn't work with custom gnome sessions in Edgy
[12:15] <Mattc> what is the terminal switch so you get one page at a time
[12:15] <binfalse1> Mattc: what do you mean?
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> Mattc .. less
[12:16] <zyclop> less filename
[12:16] <binfalse1> Mattc: oh, that is not a switch
[12:16] <binfalse1> Mattc: less is a command
[12:16] <Mattc> I am looking at the --help for mcedit and I get more than one page of text to read so I miss some
[12:16] <binfalse1> Mattc: mcedit --help | less
[12:17] <MrHair> mcedit --help |less
[12:17] <rockstar_> any one here that runs beryl and experiense problems with VLC?
[12:17] <Mattc> thanks
[12:17] <binfalse1> Mattc: if that doesnt help: mcedit --help 2>&1 | less
[12:17] <zyclop> Mattc, you exit with q btw
[12:17] <binfalse1> zyclop: yeah, less newbies need that info :)
[12:18] <MrHair> and for more fun still, mcedit --help 2>&1 > mcedit.txt
[12:18] <zyclop> binfalse1, took me quite some time to figure out :D
[12:18] <test2342> What is the name of the program that runs when you click System->Preferences->Screen Resolution?
[12:18] <MrHair> but make sure youre in your home dir or something
[12:18] <MrHair> then you have all that help captured in a file
[12:19] <binfalse1> MrHair: the order of redirects is wrong then
[12:19] <binfalse1> MrHair: first redirect stdout to a file, then redirect stderr to the (already redirected) stdout
[12:20] <MrHair> binfalse1 if i ever get to have my own company, you want a helpdesk job? lol
[12:21] <binfalse1> MrHair: hehe
[12:24] <cwraig> anyone know anything about what sound engine myth tv uses?
[12:24] <ra21vi> hi ppl
[12:24] <ra21vi> :)
[12:24] <qzn> where is system/administration/discs menu in edgy eft ? on dapper i used it to add second hdd. currently system detects it (in device manager) but i don't know how to mount it.
[12:25] <ra21vi> qzn: u can mount it manually
[12:25] <Mattc> next really basic question whats the reboot terminal command
[12:25] <ra21vi> qzn: look at man fstab
[12:25] <boink> hello
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> Mattc reboot :)
[12:25] <cwraig> mattc sudo init 6
[12:25] <binfalse1> Mattc: sudo reboot
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> do as su
[12:25] <zyclop> Mattc, sudo shutdown -r now
[12:25] <binfalse1> init 6 also works. and shutdown -r now
[12:25] <Mattc> thats a lot of choices
[12:25] <cwraig> mattc sudo init 0 will shutdown
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> reboot is easu to remeber
[12:26] <fourat> wich program does cd burning one Gnome ? i wont use the KDE K3b
[12:26] <cwraig> u can use init to impress your friends with your nerd skill
[12:26] <binfalse1> all will do the same (put init into a different runlevel)
[12:26] <nolimitsoya> fourat, bonfire and graveman fex
[12:26] <cwraig> i didnt know reboot worked :P
[12:26] <zyclop> fourat: nautilus can burn discs
[12:26] <Mattc> nice once again
[12:26] <ra21vi> hey i want to record my XGLs demo.. so is there any tool to direct my video to some other computer, where i can record the screen using some tools
[12:27] <ra21vi> i want to perform here, and record my screen X :0 to some other computer too
[12:27] <ra21vi> i dont wnt to record it on my comp
[12:27] <ra21vi> it will b sl;ow then
[12:27] <ra21vi> any answer??
[12:28] <ra21vi> istanbul desktop session crashes and is not my solution
[12:30] <Mattc> I have ubuntu 6.06 with an ati radeon 9600 card what is the best bet for me to get xgl installed and is there a good step by step guide that you could point me to please
[12:30] <Mattc> no
[12:30] <cwraig> mattc http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:31] <ra21vi> anyone know how to capture desktop session in some video file
[12:31] <ra21vi> ???
[12:31] <cwraig> mattc that has heaps of guides and its on there
[12:31] <ra21vi> *i want to capture my XGL demo in a video file:"
[12:31] <cwraig> ra21vi i know how to do it on windows
[12:31] <Mattc> thanks
[12:31] <ra21vi> cwraig: ok tell me
[12:31] <binfalse1> don't know anything about xgl and it won't run here (my gfx card is not 3d h/w accelerated)
[12:31] <cwraig> a program called camtastia runs on windows
[12:32] <ra21vi> ok, leave XGl, how to do it simply without ny XGL
[12:32] <ra21vi> creyon: is it Opensource/free
[12:32] <Mattc> there are a lot iof guides it seems hoping for one that works I have a look there thanks
[12:32] <ra21vi> is there any Open and Free Window..  i will then install that too
[12:32] <abli> ra21vi, how about using X's network features? the server can run on one computer, the client on the other? or you can hook up a tv-out card to a tv-in card... :)
[12:33] <stiz> 6.10 is looking great
[12:33] <ra21vi> abli: i dont have TV card.... and i just have Nvidia
[12:34] <ra21vi> thats nVidia 6500 turbocache 256mb DDR
[12:35] <ra21vi> it has a DVI out, but dont have any accessory to perform anything with it, and i also dont know what it does
[12:35] <chell> hi
[12:35] <cwraig> ra21vi: dvi is a better quality output to replace that vga out
[12:35] <mdious> stupid question, where can I found information about files with a "~" appended to the end...for example "myfile.txt~"...is this just a temporary file?
[12:36] <qzn> ok, i mounted it, how can i run file browser as root or change permissions any othger way ?
[12:36] <binfalse1> mdious: typically, this is the previous version, backed up by some editor you edited the file with
[12:36] <mdious> qzn> you can change the permissions with chmod and chgrp
[12:37] <stone123> !fonts >stone123
[12:37] <mdious> binfalse1>thanks that is what I thought...but found it very hard to construct my query into a google search :P
[12:37] <dv5000> Is there a good MMORPG for linux?
[12:39] <ccooke> dv5000: "debugging" ;-)
[12:39] <drbashir> What do I do about error 22 in Stage 1.5 in GRUB, after only adding a simple IDE Harddrive to Primary Slave?
[12:39] <ccooke> dv5000: Quite a few MMORPGs will run fine under Cedega or wine
[12:39] <ccooke> dv5000: that's likely to be your best bet
[12:39] <test2342> How do I alow other users to be able to use sudo?
[12:40] <drbashir> !sudo
[12:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:40] <binfalse1> which xorg version is in edgy?
[12:40] <drbashir> !xorg
[12:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:40] <defrysk> 7.1
[12:40] <binfalse1> defrysk: thanks
[12:40] <defrysk> binfalse1, 7.1
[12:40] <sgruber> !wine
[12:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:41] <dv5000> ccooke: hm ok i was hoping there was a MMPROG made and played by the linux community would prolly be fun :)
[12:41] <defrysk> dv5000, planeshift
[12:41] <mdious> drbashir> maybe you need to fix the mbr or something...that is all I know of the error
[12:41] <defrysk> dv5000, tremulous
[12:42] <dv5000> defrysk: are they any good?
[12:42] <huhmz> I just upgraded to edgy and now X doesn't start. I can use neither gdm, kdm or startx. Seems to be related to launchpad.net/bugs/59242. No xserver gets started so not a problem with xorg.conf (no output to Xorg.log.0). Please help im in the console
[12:42] <defrysk> dv5000, tremulous is a fps
[12:43] <defrysk> planeshift is an open source  MMPROG sil under development
[12:43] <defrysk> still
[12:43] <defrysk> planeshift is pretty good
[12:43] <boink> huhmz: you made need to make another xorg.conf
[12:44] <dv5000> defrysk: ok thanks ill check planeshift out first :)
[12:44] <huhmz> boink: didn't you read? no x process even gets started so xorg.conf is not even read
[12:44] <boink> I read
[12:44] <nolimitsoya> huhmz sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:44] <boink> which I find a little rude
[12:44] <drbashir> mdious, thx, but ... I think thats not it because it works fine without the extra disk
[12:44] <huhmz> that is the problem, if it was the config that was the problem i could fix it
[12:45] <huhmz> boink: sorry did not mean to be rude
[12:45] <huhmz> im just very frustrated atm
[12:45] <nolimitsoya> remove xserver and reinstall it then
[12:45] <mdious> drbashir>stupid suggestion...it's all okay in the bios right...everything detected properly as master/slave etc
[12:45] <mdious> drbashir>is anything on the extra disk or is it just an empty?
[12:46] <ClayG> anyone here know of a good laptop mount or gps plug-in for a laptop?
[12:46] <tsoler> hi to all
[12:46] <tsoler> very new to ubuntu
[12:46] <boink> !ask
[12:46] <tsoler> yesterday first trial
[12:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:46] <tsoler> ok
[12:47] <tsoler> install totem plugin
[12:47] <boink> just fire away, tsoler
[12:47] <drbashir> mdious, Its properly detected by the BIOS, and there is 1 NTFS partition on it, but without an OS
[12:47] <godzirra> how do I mount an ntfs partition on the ubuntu-dapper installer disk?  It tells me invalid argument
[12:48] <tsoler> downloaded bad plugin , need to install
[12:48] <boink> on ubuntu, you use the apt-get system to install software
[12:48] <mdious> drbashir>I have no idea, sorry for wasting your time...i can only be a google butler on this one sorry
[12:48] <v3l0ct> godzirra, you mean during installation?
[12:48] <snoops> godzirra sudo mount -t ntfs /device/blah /locationtomountto
[12:49] <tsoler> parenthesis(is there a shortcut for viewing desktop instead of minimazing alla windows?)
[12:49] <drbashir> mdious, I can add it as soon as GRUB has been loaded the menu. Then in windows it will auto-detect it, and I can then use it. Within Ubuntu I've not been able to find out how to detect it
[12:49] <drbashir> mdious, np ;)
[12:49] <boink> snoops: can you read and write to nfts mounts in ubuntu?
[12:49] <mdious> have you tried adding it to /etc/fstab
[12:49] <v3l0ct> tsoler, you have a show desktop icon
[12:49] <snoops> read yes..write is dodgy and not worth trying
[12:49] <snoops> :)
[12:49] <|thunder> !fuse
[12:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:50] <drbashir> mdious, How do I add it?
[12:50] <snoops> however there is a writing driver ntfs-g3 or something like that
[12:50] <boink> ok, ta snoops
[12:50] <snoops> but..experimental..not worh losing data over
[12:50] <mdious> do you know what it is?  for example...hda1,2 3 etc?
[12:50] <v3l0ct> vfat is still better to write to from linux
[12:50] <tsoler> v3loct: wheres that??!
[12:50] <snoops> if you're dual booting with windows, just use the ext3 driver for windows to copy stuff from ntfs to ext3 and vice versa
[12:51] <mdious> check /etc/fstab, first part you put the device (/dev/hda) then a mount point for it, then you can change options as you see fit
[12:51] <godzirra> v3l0ct: Yes, I booted into rescue mode and Ineed to read something off that disk.
[12:51] <v3l0ct> tsoler, bottom left, lower panel
[12:51] <kanotix> hi
[12:51] <Mirro> hey, did sum1 manage to connect SAMSUNG D600 with Ubuntu?
[12:51] <godzirra> snoops: It tells me "no such device" when I do that.
[12:51] <mdious> /dev/hda5       /               reiserfs notail          0       1       are the details for my main partition
[12:51] <godzirra> snoops: and fdisk -l /dev/sda obviously shows me there is such a device :)
[12:51] <mdious> all the best, i'm off.  Catcha Later.
[12:51] <drbashir> mdious, it should probably be hdb1
[12:51] <v3l0ct> godzirra, [06:48]  <snoops> godzirra sudo mount -t ntfs /device/blah /locationtomountto
[12:51] <snoops> godzirra umm.. well /dev/sda is a drive, not a partition.. you can only mount partitions not drives
[12:52] <kanotix> Can anybody direct me to a good samba tutorial? Everything I've looked at confuses the hell out of me.  I just want to share files between my kanotix box and my ubuntu box
[12:52] <stiz> where do i go for feature requests? my request is probably the last thing in world they will do but its worth a shot...., an easy Wine+IE with all plugins and have it render IE windows within firefox (similar to an extension for firefox  on windows that does that), I have got dozens of friends and family (everyday people) to switch over to ubuntu and there biggest hurdle is pages that require IE, specially educational institutions, both my
[12:52] <stiz>  girlfriend and mother are in school (2 different schools) and neither one of them can do there online school work because of this
[12:52] <snoops> kanotix is a linux distro kanotix?
[12:53] <snoops> if so, use nfs instead of samba to share files.. nfs is FAR fasters
[12:53] <godzirra> snoops: I know.  I did: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:53] <snoops> faster*
[12:53] <kanotix> yes snoops
[12:53] <godzirra> snoops: but it says "mount: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt failed: No such device"
[12:53] <godzirra> fdisk -l /dev/sda obviously shows there -is- such a device though.
[12:53] <kanotix> ok snoops.... does that have a gui frontend?
[12:54] <drbashir> How do I make Ubuntu autodetect new hd* 's?
[12:54] <snoops> godzirra ubuntu uses /media as a mount area.. and create a folder for that within the /media dir to mount to
[12:54] <binfalse1> stiz: schools should be sued for forcing people to use IE..
[12:54] <snoops> then do your mount -t nfs /dev/sdb1 /media/sda1 for example
[12:54] <snoops> -t ntfs* rather
[12:54] <boink> schools should go open source
[12:54] <webben> stiz: sued? sued how?
[12:55] <webben> ;)
[12:56] <kanotix> exit
[12:56] <drbashir> Or does Ubuntu not have that function like windows does?
[12:56] <binfalse1> stiz: may its just a simple browser id check. browser ids can be faked.
[12:56] <stiz> no sh*t, you would think that educational institutions would be the last place this would happen, but its like every school hired idiot web designers, the ones that graduated and couldnt get a real job i guess
[12:56] <stiz> alot of it is special IE plugins
[12:56] <binfalse1> stiz: :(
[12:57] <stiz> active x i think
[12:57] <dv5000> I just downloaded a game but its a .bin how can i install that?
[12:57] <dv5000> !bin
[12:57] <Mirro> did anyone manage to connect SAMSUNG D600 with Ubuntu?
[12:57] <snoops> drbashir not sure what you mean.. if I plug a new hdd in, it's detected next boot.. or do you mean hot swappable/
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <godzirra> snoops: I'm booting from the ubuntu dapper install disk.  DOes that make a difference?  And /mnt exists so I should be able to mount to /mnt.
[12:58] <godzirra> Just because ubuntu puts /media in the fstab shouldnt make a difference. :)
[12:58] <drbashir> snoops, hot swappable, because if I add it before booting/GRUB menu loading, then it gives me error 22 at stage 1.5