[03:10] <rww> eniacpx: 8.04 directly to 9.10 isn't supported, you'd need to do 8.04->8.10->9.04->9.10, using the upgrade instructions:
[03:10] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: You can try calling Dell to see if they provide a custom ISO image for that model I think they have had them in the past for some models.
[03:10] <syn-ack> so, it'd be better to say nothing other than "without a reinstall?"
[03:10] <rww> !upgrade
[03:10] <derspankster> enacpx: not directly
[03:10] <syn-ack> I'm sorry... Had a long day
[03:10] <eniacpx> Thanks everyone!
[03:10] <rww> eniacpx: personally, I'd wait for 10.04 to come out in April. It's an LTS, so you can go directly from 8.04 to it.
[03:10] <Rewt`> hmm
[03:11] <user221> portage/ports has an update world option .. not sure what it is for apt-get
[03:11] <eniacpx> rww: Thanks for the tip, I probably will.
[03:11] <Rewt`> it seems there's a black "thing" over my desktop. I can't even seen wallaper
[03:11] <hololight> I was off with the dist-upgrade option
[03:11] <centHOGG> b
[03:11] <Rewt`> wallpaper, too
[03:11] <user221> ya, apt-get dist-upgrade it looks
[03:11] <Dallas1> linuxguy: I did do some searching around. Apparently it worked well with 8.04.
[03:11] <rww> !dist-upgrade
[03:11] <Dallas1> That's the version they ship with I suppose
[03:12] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Yes cause its the long term support release.
[03:12] <hololight> no, i just checked, dist upgrade will just bring all packages and dependencies to current.
[03:12] <jongbergs> hi
[03:12] <Gerowen> Hello everybody
[03:12] <centHOGG> herro
[03:13] <user221> hololight: does ppa.launchpad.net sound right?
[03:13] <Dallas1> linuxguy: would it be best to just get 8.04 netbook release, clean install and get the video drivers working and then forget about updating the kernel for a while?
[03:14] <default> nick xcat
[03:14] <johnvsc> hey everyone ... can someone help me get exuberant ctags running on 9.10 ?
[03:14] <felixsulla> How do I search for a string inside files in current folder and subfolders?
[03:15] <Magnesium> Hey folks, I'm trying to figure out what kernel version is installed with Karmic...I am using 2.6.31-14, but someone else is using 2.6.31-15. Can anybody using Karmic run "uname -r"?
[03:15] <johnvsc> i am trying to get the function browser working in gedit
[03:15] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Its completely up to you. Dells website shows 8.04 for these 10 and 10v models. Not sure if a driver is included out of the box or not. All you can do is try.
[03:15] <xcat> i installed a minimal install of ubuntu with debootstart and then install xserver-xorg-vesa-video and then startx /usr/bin/xterm and the optimal resolution isn't auto-detected and set. what package does that?
[03:16] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: And who is to say that the next LTS release being 10.04 will even have a driver then. Might not.
[03:16] <Dallas1> linuxguy: it doesn't give an error if I use http://ppa.lauchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/ppa/ubuntu karmic main. Which option would you shoot for?
[03:16] <derspankster> <IP_ADDRESS> - no 15 yet
[03:16] <WelshDragon> felixsulla, cd into the folder and run this: grep -R "string" *
[03:16] <Magnesium> derspankster: Thanks...could I ask, are you using 32-bit or 64? and did you upgrade or do a clean install?
[03:17] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Its no good cause I cant browse it with firefox.
[03:17] <Dallas1> linuxguy: ah.
[03:17] <derspankster> Magnesium: upgrade, 32 bit
[03:17] <bondy> xorg.conf you can set the resoloution /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Yeah it works you had a typo in there.
[03:17] <Magnesium> ok, thanks derspankster.
[03:18] <Dallas1> linuxguy: oh?
[03:18] <penguincentral> in empathy im, how can i set it so that when a person sends me a message it opens a new window straight away?
[03:18] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: forgot the n in launchpad
[03:18] <Dallas1> is there a way to tell if those packages are there?
[03:18] <KurtKraut> I'm trying to install Tor but this package name doesn't exist in Karmic. Has Ubuntu dropped support for Tor or it has another package name?
[03:19] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Yeah just type it in your browser.
[03:19] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/ppa/ubuntu/    dists karmic
[03:20] <Monocian> May I ask a question? :-s
[03:20] <Monocian> >.>
[03:20] <linuxguy2009> Monocian: Dont ask to ask.
[03:20] <Magnesium> !ask | Monocian
[03:20] <penguincentral> KurtKraut: search it in the ubuntu software centre
[03:20] <linuxguy2009> Monocian: Whats your q?
[03:21] <Dallas1> linuxguy2009: right, I'm not sure where to browse to to find if the glsx-plsb package is there.
[03:21] <Monocian> Just because i cant find the right question to place in the search section
[03:21] <KurtKraut> penguincentral, there is no Tor in Ubuntu Software Centre. Please, check by yourself too.
[03:21] <Magnesium> Monocian: Sorry, I don't follow you....
[03:21] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: youll have to remove all other sources and then add the new one and reload to check.'
[03:21] <Monocian> My problem is: (  a bit long): I got ubuntu 8.04 and it runs fine in live cd mode
[03:22] <penguincentral> KurtKraut: yeah, but when you search tor in the ubuntu software centre, you can see vidalia which is a tor program
[03:22] <penguincentral> KurtKraut: along with TorK for KDE
[03:22] <DryGrain> Huzzah, rebooting made my comp recognize USB thumb drives again
[03:22] <DryGrain> thanks #ubuntu <3
[03:22] <emanux> how to erase empathy previous conversation
[03:22] <KurtKraut> penguincentral, Vidalia and Tork is only a GUI for the daemon Tor. They need the package tor installed.
[03:22] <Monocian> But I've just downloaded Xubuntu 9.10 and a OpenSUSE 11.2 too. I burned both of them
[03:22] <KurtKraut> penguincentral, which as I'm saying here, is not availuable in Ubuntu repositories
[03:23] <Monocian> But when I boot, they both cant run any mode ( live cd, install) and all say boot error
[03:23] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Dont bother there are only 4 packages there for karmic.
[03:23] <bondy> whats the boot error
[03:23] <Dallas1> linuxguy2009: Ah, gotcha. I think I'll try and go that route and if I can get it going I'll be extremely pleased. If not I'll jump back down to 8.04 and then we'll know to stick with 8.04 on the mini 10
[03:23] <Dallas1> linuxguy2009: o damn
[03:24] <Monocian> Xubuntu has a window say I/O error: Reboot
[03:24] <penguincentral> KurtKraut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1153938
[03:24] <Monocian> OpenSuse crash at loading screen
[03:24] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Yeah Id give 8.04 a whirl and hope and pray that 10.04 LTS gets support for it.
[03:24] <Magnesium> Monocian: Almost sounds like the discs didn't burn right.
[03:24] <Dallas1> linuxguy2009: maybe I'll just go to 8.04 then.
[03:24] <KurtKraut> penguincentral, thanks.
[03:24] <penguincentral> no problem
[03:24] <bondy> have you used Xfce in ununtu?
[03:24] <Magnesium> Monocian: Especially the IO error part.
[03:25] <Dallas1> linuxguy2009: sounds good. I'll keep ya posted. Any idea on where to find the 8.04 netbook remix if there is one?
[03:25] <Ironicus> whats the easiest way to install lamp
[03:25] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Should be up to 8.04.3 point release with hundreds of integrated updates integrated into the image.
[03:25] <thiebaude> !lamp
[03:25] <Ironicus> why I can'T get it from the programe installer
[03:25] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: 8.04 has no netbook unless you can go to ubuntu.packages.com and find backports.
[03:25] <Magnesium> Monocian: With Xubuntu, can you get to the screen where it shows all the languages?
[03:26] <[TK]D-Fender> hello all, need some advice.  I'm looking to clone my Ubuntu install to an SSD.  sda1=WinXP, sda2=Extended "holder" which contains sda5=(NTFS data partition), sda6=LinuxSwap, sda7=linux <- last one is my Ubuntu install.  I basically want to copy sda7 onto this new drive with grub modded as appropriate ont it
[03:26] <Ironicus> I already looked at this site and I don't understand
[03:26] <Ironicus> I am 0 with lonux...
[03:26] <Dallas1> linuxguy2009: I'll just get 8.04.3
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Cool. I wish you all the luck!
[03:27] <mMezquitale> !ask | Ironicus
[03:28] <Ironicus> I did ask a question, but I wanted to have something easier to understand...
[03:28] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: http://markusthielmann.com/blog/installing_ubuntu_netbook_remix_ubuntu_hardy_804
[03:28] <andreanadelphon> Anybody know why cron wouldn't be starting at bootup in Hardy, even though the init script is linked and working?
[03:29] <bondy> its a bot auto response Ironicus
[03:29] <Monocian> Ironicus, I'm even at -1 :(
[03:29] <Ironicus> ah I think I found somethign
[03:30] <Dallas1> linuxguy2009: found a torrent off the main site just as you posted it. Thanks for all your help linuxguy2009.
[03:30] <Magnesium> Monocian: I don't know for sure why it wouldn't boot due to that error other than the fact that the disc was burned with an error.
[03:30] <linuxguy2009> Dallas1: Your welcome and wish you all the luck with that. ;)
[03:30] <Magnesium> Monocian: I mean, that's kinda what I/O error means, the computer can't read from the disc.
[03:30] <bondy> could it be xfce doesent support the gfx card?
[03:30] <Ironicus> I also want to know how to make a ghost with linux
[03:30] <trevor> Hey, I am running ubuntu 9.10, and I am trying to connect to an external hard-drive via my wireless network, and am having trouble. When I go into Places->Network I see "Base Station 1", which is what it is called on my friends mac when he accesses it, but if I double click it I can't see any of the files, and I'm not able to put anything on it.
[03:31] <Ironicus> Since I can,t do that with windows if I wanna keep my linux partition
[03:31] <linuxguy2009> Ironicus: you can use dd to make a disk image or if you want compression you can try diskpart package.
[03:31] <yea_I_did-it> how do u use testdisk
[03:31] <Ironicus> dd?
[03:31] <thiebaude> !dd
[03:32] <linuxguy2009> Ironicus: You meant a ghost, like a backup?
[03:32] <Ironicus> yes
[03:32] <a_user> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387559 i have this issue but the workaround does not work
[03:32] <a_user> im on jaunty
[03:32] <Ironicus> a backup of my laptop including my windows and linux partition
[03:33] <linuxguy2009> Ironicus: dd will write every bit of a disk to a file and can be piped to a compressed format like gzip etc. Also diskpart is a graphical app that can compress.
[03:33] <mMezquitale> a_user,  maybe there's a workaround, if someone knows about it they will surely reply but the problems I had with jaunty were fixed by using karmic instead of jaunty, I skipped jaunty entirely and went from Intrepid to Karmic
[03:33] <linuxguy2009> Ironicus: dd is command line only and diskpart is a good GUI one.
[03:33] <bondy> use hardy :D
[03:34] <obs> hi there
[03:34] <bondy> well not use it but try it
[03:34] <Ironicus> Can I get 2 disk with it?
[03:34] <linuxguy2009> Ironicus: sorry partimage is what I meant to say
[03:34] <trevor> Has anyone encountered my problem before? Or know what I need to do to fix my problem?
[03:35] <Ironicus> do you know any tutorial about it?
[03:35] <bondy> trevor try using an earlier relaease it could be a bug
[03:35] <seedeedotdot> anybody alive in here?
[03:35] <mandiri> abdul
[03:35] <thiebaude> no
[03:35] <linuxguy2009> trevor: Do you have samba installed?
[03:35] <sje46> I have embedded an IRC chat onto my desktop, kinda...however, I want it to be on all my workspaces.  How do I do this?  It's irssi, so it's run in the terminal
[03:36] <linuxguy2009> trevor: samba will allow you to share files folder and printers with linux, mac, and windows machines.
[03:37] <wapko> sje46: isnt there an "show on all workspaces" if you rightclick the titlebar.. or what do you mean by embedded ? :P conky like or what
[03:37] <[TK]D-Fender> .
[03:38] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[03:38] <sje46> well, its not on the title bar
[03:38] <sje46> I used compiz to put it below all windows and put it on transparent
[03:38] <obs> yes
[03:38] <seedeedotdot> Anybody wanna help a newb with audio probs? I've followed all the troubleshooting posts on forums but no luck.. Drivers ok, not muted, output through headphone.. I've got a Gateway P6860FX and I'm loving Ubuntu 9.10 /w Gnome but the lack of audio has me using my Win7 patition most of the time :(
[03:38] <sje46> and got rid of window decoration
[03:38] <obs> cjsdkcsjdvölfsv
[03:38] <obs> fsvdslkvnsdvkv
[03:38] <obs> ssfvslkvjsdvk
[03:38] <bondy> use gnome :D
[03:38] <obs> hihi sorry
[03:39] <Rolaulten> Hello all, I'm trying to configure a netgear router to use my university's campus proxy, does anyone know how to do this?
[03:40] <spridel> most campuses don't let you run router's under their network, or at least mine did not
[03:40] <linuxguy2009> seedeedotdot: sudo lshw -c sound
[03:40] <bondy> thats not Linux specific Rolaulten but use your browser to connect to the ip of the router
[03:40] <linuxguy2009> seedeedotdot: What card do you have?
[03:41] <Rolaulten> bondy: No, what I am wondering is how to axcess the router's OS from ubuntu so I can add the settings vea command line.
[03:41] <seedeedotdot> hold on I'll run the command and tell you.. I'm just using the onboard audio I'll give you the chipset
[03:41] <spridel> you connect to it just like you would in windows, unless you are going to terminal into it
[03:42] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a tool which can convert text files from UTF8 with BOM to UTF8 without BOM en masse?
[03:43] <jongbergs> Rolaulten: it's basically the same process whether you're using windows or linux, just set you linux box ip address, use firefox to get inside your router interface
[03:44] <Rolaulten> I've tried. the GUI of the router does not allow for an external proxy to be used.
[03:44] <qpoi> Is there anyone here with launchpad permissions?
[03:44] <linuxguy2009> qpoi: launchpad permissions meaning what?
[03:44] <qpoi> linuxguy2009: permission to change status of a bug report, if such permission exists
[03:45] <Ironicus> I installed lamp, where can «i get mysql lol?
[03:45] <Ironicus> it is instaled, but where
[03:45] <linuxguy2009> qpoi: Just wait and someone will get to your report.
[03:45] <git__> hi
[03:45] <qpoi> linuxguy2009: it's not my report, it's one I came across in a search
[03:45] <qpoi> linuxguy2009: and currently it has an incorrect status
[03:45] <linuxguy2009> qpoi: If you want to add a comment to it just sign up.
[03:46] <seedeedotdot> Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:46] <qpoi> linuxguy2009: commenting will not affect status though, will it?
[03:46] <yea_I_did-it> whats the syntax for running testdisk?
[03:46] <Monocian> Can we talk here about how to convince others to use ubuntu? :(
[03:46] <git__> anyone here use Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD on USB key (4GB)?
[03:46] <debio264> in screen, how would I start a session that runs a shell command?
[03:46] <linuxguy2009> qpoi: Status is between the bug filer and the devs etc.
[03:46] <git__> doesn't USB have like 1,000 write cycle wear-level?
[03:47] <Ironicus> I installed lamp, how do I use phpmyadmin?
[03:47] <linuxguy2009> git__:  google that im sure its many many times more.
[03:47] <git__> i believe my USB key is reaching its limit on the wear-level and afraid it will render my usb key useless
[03:47] <[TK]D-Fender> Sorry, IRC drop-off there...
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Monocian: You can in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:47] <microlith> git__: USB?
[03:47] <neon_> need some help, i have a tvtuner  and i can get all channels however i can't get no sound. the sound card is a realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd, any suggestions thx
[03:47] <[TK]D-Fender> hello all, need some advice.  I'm looking to clone my Ubuntu install to an SSD.  sda1=WinXP, sda2=Extended "holder" which contains sda5=(NTFS data partition), sda6=LinuxSwap, sda7=linux <- last one is my Ubuntu install.   If my server is set to use passive ports 63900:64000, those are the ports my system uses to send data, correct?
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Monocian: uh
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Monocian: didn't need to pm that, you could have just said here
[03:48] <linuxguy2009> git__: google that youll find it.
[03:48]  * microlith notes that most people will not encounter a flash-erase failure on their USB key
[03:48] <sebsebseb> !pm > Monocian
[03:48] <microlith> the erase limit for a cell tends to be in the 100,000-10,000 range
[03:48] <git__> linuxguy2009, wikipedia said the current USB key drive has 1,000 write cycle
[03:48] <microlith> the older the device, the higher
[03:48] <jongbergs> [TK]D-Fender: try dd command
[03:48] <microlith> and it's -not- writes
[03:48] <Ironicus> I installed lamp, how do I use phpmyadmin?
[03:49] <qpoi> Iconicus: try http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[03:49] <git__> there are software that makes the write cycle up to 1M
[03:49] <jongbergs> Ironicus: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[03:49] <git__> that's using software to not right on the same block
[03:49] <git__> right = write
[03:49] <microlith> git__: it's called wear-levelling
[03:49] <Ironicus> it is not included in lamp?
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Monocian: thank you's are good to do in here
[03:49] <microlith> and it doesn't give you 1 million write cycles, it just spreads erases out across the drive
[03:49] <jongbergs> Ironicus: separate package
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> git__:  Your looking at RW optical technology.
[03:50] <git__> right-o
[03:50] <[TK]D-Fender> jongbergs: I've read a bit, and most use it for cloning whole drives... I need select partitions with resizing...
[03:50]  * microlith works for a flash memory company :>
[03:50] <git__> i don't want my usb key drive to die on me after one year of use -- i have important data on it
[03:50] <jongbergs> [TK]D-Fender: then you might consider using gparted instead..
[03:50] <Bllasae> is there a way to run a DVD game with Ubuntu? Splinter Cell Chaos Theory?
[03:50] <microlith> git__: at worst you won't be able to write to it anymore
[03:50] <Bllasae> and would I have to install it again?
[03:50] <bondy> back it up then git_
[03:51] <git__> microlith, then it becomes read-only?
[03:51] <microlith> yes
[03:51] <jongbergs> [TK]D-Fender: boot off from the live cd and start gparted thru System > Admnistration > Partition Editor
[03:51] <git__> which is great! =)
[03:51] <Bllasae> I already installed it on my windows partition
[03:51] <microlith> if you can't -read- the drive, something else killed it
[03:51] <uu_> 春哥纯爷们
[03:51] <neon_> need some help, i have a tvtuner  and i can get all channels however i can't get no sound. the sound card is a realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd, any suggestions thx
[03:51] <git__> what is the mean time to die (MTTD) for USB key drive?
[03:51] <linuxguy2009> git_: Micron Technology and Sun Microsystems announced an SLC flash memory chip rated for 1,000,000 write-erase-cycles on December 17, 2008.[8]
[03:51] <bazhang> !cn | uu_
[03:52] <poseidon> If I have a game running on full-screen mode crash, how can I kill the process?  I can't exit out of it via alt-f4 or anything.  Is there something similar to going the windows "ctrl+alt+delete -> tasklist manager"?
[03:52] <chea_> CTRL+F1
[03:52] <chea_> emergency shell
[03:52] <git__> ubuntu 9.10 default filesystem is ext4?
[03:52] <chea_> pit^lala: CTRL+F1 for emergency shell, CTRL+F7 for returning back
[03:53] <chea_> poseidon*
[03:53] <linuxguy2009> git__:  yes ext4
[03:53] <Benwa> git__>  yes
[03:53] <hammerman> anyone from PA?
[03:53] <git__> thx
[03:53] <thief> ctrl+1 doesn't give me any shell
[03:53] <ubuntu> hi ..
[03:53] <thief> ctrl+f1*
[03:53] <git__> has anyone here use ubuntu one?
[03:53] <Warp4> thief try Ctrl-Alt-F1
[03:53] <Warp4> thief theen Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get the GUI back
[03:53] <Ironicus> once installed, how do I go to pypmyadmin interface?
[03:53] <Mike_lifeguard> file tells me my files are in ASCII, but other programs say they're UTF8 -- how can I know for sure which is correct?
[03:53] <[TK]D-Fender> jongbergs: Ok, I see there is a "copy" option there.... what about the bootloader?
[03:53] <thief> Warp4, cool, thanks!
[03:54] <chea> my mistake, Ctrl-Alt-F1
[03:54] <poseidon> chea, How do I kill the process via the shell?
[03:54] <chea> and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return back.
[03:54] <chea> poseidon: do you know the process name?
[03:54] <poseidon> I believe it's hon.sh
[03:54] <chea> try: killall hon.sh
[03:54] <Warp4> poseidon you can use 'kill <PID>'
[03:54] <ubuntu> im trying to install ubuntu and it wouldnt .. im on the live cd .. gparted is somehow combining 2 of my partitions as 1 and labeling them unusable..
[03:54] <chea> or if it's persistent, killall -9 hon.sh
[03:54] <bondy> use top to get the id
[03:54] <bondy> pid*
[03:54] <Warp4> chea: better yet, 'sudo killall -p hon.sh'
[03:55] <chea> ps -ef | grep -i hon.sh
[03:55] <chea> for PID
[03:55] <[TK]D-Fender> jongbergs: my sda7 linux partition is mounted as "/" so my /boot folder is in it.  what would I need to do on the new drive to get GRUB up and sane?
[03:55] <chea> Warp4: what does -p do? brb man page..
[03:55] <linuxguy2009> ubuntu: use dd to overwrite the first 512bytes and see if that helps. Itll erase the MBR so you can start fresh if you like if there is corruption or errors.
[03:56] <poseidon> chea, thanks.  I think that will fix it for me.
[03:56] <thevor> Hey, I'm trying to use Samba to access an external harddrive via my wireless network, and I'm not quite sure what I'm doing. I've just recently installed Samba, but when I run it I don't get any sort of gui. I'm just not sure if it runs in the background, or if there is some sort of configuration that I Need to go through.
[03:56] <ubuntu> linuxguy whats dd? i am dual booting .. and the problem is the installer isnt recognizing my partitions properly
[03:57] <qpoi> thevor: it just runs as a service
[03:57] <linuxguy2009> thevor: You need samba on both boxes to share back and forth and then use nautilus to set sharing.
[03:57] <thevor> Ah I see.
[03:57] <qpoi> thevor: you access the network shares via smb://<IP_ADDRESS> for example
[03:57] <thief> but what's the use of this emergency shell (ctrl+alt+f1) if `ps` doesn't show the processes I'm running here in the GUI for me to kill them?
[03:57] <neon_> need some help, i have a tvtuner  and i can get all channels however i can't get no sound. the sound card is a realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd, any suggestions thx
[03:58] <thevor> linuxguy2009: What do you mean on both boxes? It needs to be installed on the external hard drive?
[03:58] <linuxguy2009> neon_: Does the TV tuner have any sort of audio out jacks internal on the card or jacks on the back?
[03:58] <klong> can you run gimp in one window instead of all these annoying windows?
[03:58] <wapko> thief: try ps ax
[03:58] <jongberg1> [TK]D-Fender: gparted can unmount partitions for you
[03:58] <wapko> thief: grep the output
[03:58] <qpoi> thevor: samba will access any windows network share
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> thevor: Oh no. If its a hard drive with a lan connector just check your router for the connected devices local ip address.
[03:59] <qpoi> thevor: if the external drive is on a windows machine shared normally, smb:// will get you there
[03:59] <thevor> Ok great.
[03:59] <thevor> Thank you both for your help. I appreciate it.
[03:59] <seedeedotdot> Any tips from anybody for my audio prob? :(
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> thevor: welcome
[03:59] <[TK]D-Fender> jongberg1: You saying I may be able to do this "live" off my current boot drive?
[03:59] <neon_> the tv tuner is a usb, the funny thing is that if i use it as DVB with OTA antenna i get sound and picture , if i use it as just regular analogue cable i get picture no sound
[03:59] <ubuntu> whats the maximum number of partitions?
[03:59] <neon_> no audio out
[03:59] <[TK]D-Fender> jongberg1: Also, I was wondering about GRUB on the new drive...
[04:00] <qpoi> thevor: you're welcome
[04:00] <seedeedotdot> Works through headphone jack only.. Tried every output option in ALSA
[04:00] <linuxguy2009> seedeedotdot: I must be blind i dont see your question.
[04:00] <[TK]D-Fender> jongberg1: I was thinking that it might be easier to try to install Ubuntu from scratch onto the new drive and then copy my main partition over the old one.
[04:00] <seedeedotdot> Anybody wanna help a newb with audio probs? I've followed all the troubleshooting posts on forums but no luck.. Drivers ok, not muted, output through headphone.. I've got a Gateway P6860FX and I'm loving Ubuntu 9.10 /w Gnome but the lack of audio has me using my Win7 patition most of the time :(
[04:01] <[TK]D-Fender> jongberg1: I mean copy the old one over-top of this new install one
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> seedeedotdot: No audio at all?
[04:01] <bondy> seriously if your having probs try an earlier release
[04:01] <seedeedotdot> Works through headphone jack only.. Tried every output option in ALSA
[04:01] <caleb2003> hi can anyone help with workgroups/samba? I installed initially kde but switched to gnome desktop as some things were not working but since then I cannot see the workgroup from my xbox or windows laptops
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> seedeedotdot: headphone jack on sound card or speakers?
[04:02] <jongberg1> [TK]D-Fender: installing from scratch is a straight forward solution though :)
[04:02] <seedeedotdot> It's a laptop
[04:02] <bondy> LTS is for a reason
[04:02] <seedeedotdot> Onboard audio
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> seedeedotdot: Ok so your internal speakers dont work that what you mean?
[04:02] <seedeedotdot> Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[04:02] <[TK]D-Fender> jongbergYeah, but I'd like to preserve my apps, etc.... hence cloning the partition onto the new drive
[04:02] <jdahm> does the 9.10 karmic koala cd have lvm on it?
[04:02] <seedeedotdot> I've seen it listed on some forums as problematic
[04:03] <webbb82> i just installed emerald for themes  but when i goto pick a theme  it doesnt change the wallpaper along with the theme   anyone know why
[04:03] <jdahm> dm_mod doesn't exist!
[04:03] <neon_> i want to keep ubuntu as my main os, bu ti rely on my computer to watch tv, if i can get the usb tuner to work properly i'll jump out of a "window" :(
[04:03] <linuxguy2009> seedeedotdot: Probably just a matter of ticking the right options in sound mixer.
[04:04] <bondy> seriously switching to a red hat based come next LTS
[04:04] <greezmunkey_> woohoo!
[04:04] <bondy> let google os cater for the windows users
[04:05] <jongbergs> [TK]D-Fender: you may also consider clonezilla linux distro
[04:05] <jongbergs> [TK]D-Fender: it's an open source cloning distro..
[04:06] <carolinaswamp> hi all, how can i find out what wireless driver i currently have loaded?
[04:06] <bondy> Im thinking of going with Fedora r CentOS
[04:06]  * greezmunkey fires up the bass amp...
[04:06] <jongbergs> carolinaswamp: lspci -v
[04:06] <adsfdasf> hi, i downloaded wubi, and am trying to install a DELL ISO (ubuntu-9.04-dell-reinstall.iso). how do I tell it to use that ISO? (they're both in the same folder, that doesn't work)
[04:06] <carolinaswamp> jongbergs: thank you sir
[04:06] <gdiz> hey everyone, is there an easy way to make icon svg's?  is there a program that can convert from png to svg
[04:07] <centHOGG> bondy: what?
[04:07] <chuckf>  [TK]D-Fender http://www.sysresccd.org is what you want it sounds like
[04:07] <jeffmr> adsfdasf, you should just be able to install and it will select it or ask you to.
[04:07] <linuxguy2009> adsfdasf: Read the wubi directions.
[04:08] <arsin> Can I change my computer's name?
[04:08] <adsfdasf> jeffmr: yeah, not working... does the file name make a difference? perhaps i sould rename it?
[04:08] <webbb82> for some reason  emerald wont change the desktop background  when i change themes
[04:08] <syrius> why am I not able to delete files on fat32 anymore?
[04:08] <syrius> it is not allowing me
[04:08] <syrius> it did before
[04:08] <syrius> why did it change?
[04:08] <arsin> syrius: Maybe you need to be root?
[04:08] <jeffmr> adsfdasf, what if you move the iso to another folder.  Will it download it again?
[04:08] <jeffmr> adsfdasf, it shouldn't take much time
[04:08] <syrius> why would I need to be root arsin ?
[04:08] <adsfdasf> jeffmr: yes
[04:09] <syrius> fat32 has no permissions
[04:09] <ghost> !ipod
[04:09] <caleb2003> hi can anyone help with workgroups/samba? I installed initially kde but switched to gnome desktop as some things were not working but since then I cannot see the workgroup from my xbox or windows laptops
[04:09] <linuxguy2009> syrius: fat32 lakc spermissions so I dont see why that would happen.
[04:09] <adsfdasf> syrius: i know, but i remember something about using the dell image because the regular one didn't work well... am i imagining? should the standard wubi-downloaded image work fine on a dell xps?
[04:09] <arsin> syrius: I have no clue, my guess
[04:09] <gasull> seedeedotdot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:09] <jeffmr> carolinaswamp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[04:09] <syrius> linuxguy2009, as I just told arsin
[04:10] <gasull> seedeedotdot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[04:10] <syrius> linuxguy2009 why am not able to delete from it?
[04:10] <ZaNeIuM> how do i turn of that drum sound at the login screen?
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> syrius: Did you check your user privs?
[04:10] <B166er-X> Question : is there a way to sync /add tunes, to an ipod touch 3g on ubuntu 9.10 whitout Jailbreaking ?   pleasee
[04:10] <arsin> syrius: What happens when you try? Nothing happens or an error comes?
[04:10] <chuckf> caleb2003: is samba running?
[04:10] <arsin> Is it possible to make my computers name change to something else, or is it stuck as is?
[04:11] <neon_> need some help, i have a tvtuner  and i can get all channels however i can't get no sound. the sound card is a realtek alc889a hda-intel-snd, any suggestions thx
[04:11] <caleb2003> as far as i know, yes
[04:11] <syrius> promiscuousmode watch the tab key
[04:11] <caleb2003> status activated in gadmin
[04:12] <linuxguy2009> neon_: Does the TV tuner have any audio out jacks?
[04:12] <syrius> Arsin no when I left click on a file or folder the options come up lighter in color for the delete and properties options
[04:12] <syrius> maybe I should dismount and then remount
[04:12] <chuckf> caleb2003: can you pastebin the smb.conf file?
[04:12] <Arsin> Worth a shot
[04:12] <linuxguy2009> syrius: logout and back in see if the files are still there.
[04:12] <gasull> B166er-X: you can install iTunes in virtualbox-ose w/windows, or even better install virtualbox-ose with http://www.doubletwist.com/
[04:13] <syrius> well I am going to do the dismoutn and remount first
[04:13] <syrius> but it doesn't make sense if I am able to write to it and read
[04:13] <neon_> linuxguy2009: it does not it is an USB, i can get sound if i use it as DVB with OTA antenna, then i get sound and picture.  if i just want to use it with my regular cable i get all 100+ channels but no sound, i searched around for days with no answer
[04:13] <syrius> dunno why no delete
[04:14] <drygr> (͡๏̯͡๏)
[04:14] <B166er-X> thanks gasull
[04:15] <linuxguy2009> neon_: You have no sound only when using cable input correct?
[04:15] <gasull> B166er-X: you're welcome
[04:16] <teamcoltra> My wireless keeps randomly dropping until I restart my computer...
[04:16] <chuckf> caleb2003: pastebin, not dcc send
[04:16] <neon_> linuxguy2009: yes, since it is a usb i can only connect either a terrestial antenna to get pure digital channels in wich case i get pic and soun or  my comcast cable in wich case i only get all channels no sound, i play around with the sound settings to no avail
[04:16] <Arsin> syrius: Concensus?
[04:17] <jeffmr> teamcoltra, do you have security on?
[04:17] <Arsin> How can I add my windows partiton to GRUB?
[04:17] <linuxguy2009> neon_: What kind of cable connectors come from the cable to your tuner?
[04:17] <neon_> just a coax
[04:17] <teamcoltra> jeffmr, WAP
[04:17] <jeffmr> teamcoltra, does it disconnect without it?
[04:18] <teamcoltra> I am in a boarding house, so I am not really privileged to change it
[04:18] <linuxguy2009> neon_: Ok did you play with the cable box settings to see if it has any settings for sound format such as PCM etc? Not sure if that matters when using coax but theres probably a setting somewhere.
[04:18] <jeffmr> teamcoltra, try a different router and see
[04:19] <acovrig> Arsin, you can edit your grub menu with "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:19] <acovrig> but, you *must* know what you are doing
[04:19] <teamcoltra> jeffmr, easier said then done. :P Try finding available routers and such in the middle of the Bush in Alaska
[04:19] <teamcoltra> ;)
[04:19] <sprockets2000> wow, cableone is crap, order 12mb/2 and during peak hours im getting 1.2mbps
[04:19] <sprockets2000> talk about oversubscription
[04:20] <rikupw> hmm
[04:20] <teamcoltra> Jeffmr I do know that if I attach directly, it still works
[04:20] <frogzoo> didn't MS just introduce a driver into the kernel source?
[04:20] <neon_> thats a problem since i live in an apartment complex i just get a cable from the wall no box, i know it  is kind of dorky setup and hate to say that it works ok on windows, but i can't control the audio stream
[04:20] <mMezquitale> acovrig, not exactly, it depends on whether or not he's using old grub of grub2, Arsin are you using grub2?
[04:20] <rikupw> I'm unable to un-tar/gzip any files :-/
[04:20] <Arsin> mMezquitale: 2
[04:20] <caleb2003> CHUCKF: did you get it?
[04:20] <caleb2003> <chuckf: I'm using xchat-gnome and see no option to pastebin
[04:20] <caleb2003> chuckf: try here now http://pastebin.com/m2a241e32
[04:20] <rikupw> ubuntu karmic.  everythings updated.  anyone have any idea?
[04:20] <jeffmr> teamcoltra, if you could get the sys administrator to let you look at the router page you could try changing the channel
[04:20] <linuxguy2009> neon_: I see.
[04:21] <linuxguy2009> neon_: How do you change cable stations with no box?
[04:21] <SeaPhor> Flannel, plz tell me you're still here, total disaster,, now will not boot after the alt cd install, i'm on live cd session again
[04:21] <acovrig> Arsin, if you don't want to use the cmd, try Bootup-Manager maybe
[04:21] <jeffmr> teamcoltra, did you see if there are any new drivers in the hardware panel?
[04:21] <mMezquitale> Arsin, you want to add the partition where you installed windows in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:22] <gasull> rikupw: what error do you get?
[04:22] <linuxguy2009> SeaPhor: Need some help?
[04:22] <rikupw> error:  gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors \n i've tried uninstalling reinstalling :-/  no go.
[04:22] <neon_> on my tv's with a remote on the computer using like tvtime with keyboard
[04:22] <rikupw> oops, this isn't c, \n doesnt' work haha
[04:22] <syrius> concensus? Arsin
[04:22] <syrius> the voting system?
[04:22] <SeaPhor> linuxguy2009, thanx, long story, and Flannel has been following'
[04:23] <mMezquitale> Arsin, windows is not being picked up by grub-probe?? You have to do grub-probe and then grub-update
[04:23] <rikupw> gasull, not sure whats the problem, it just suddenly stopped working.  did an apt-get update/etc and suddenly nothin's workin.  any what the problem could be?
[04:24] <rikupw> well, the issue could have been there for a while, as i hadn't untar'd anything for a while.  :-/  happens on both tar and tar.gz.  haven't tried bzip
[04:24] <linuxguy2009> neon_: If it works on your TV then I dont see why it woudnt work on that tuner.
[04:25] <gasull> rikupw: I don't know, but try this:   sudo aptitude install --reinstall gzip
[04:25] <neon_> i know, i will keep searching around, i can use OTA but only get 4 channels with my cable i get over 100 thanks for your help
[04:25] <chuckf> caleb2003: and this same conf file was working before?
[04:25] <linuxguy2009> rikupw: Whats the problem?
[04:25] <rikupw> thanks gasull, i did try that i'll try that again
[04:25] <rikupw> error:  gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors \n i've tried uninstalling reinstalling :-/  no go.
[04:25] <rikupw> thats the problem
[04:25] <FloodBot1> rikupw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <caleb2003> yes I have not changed anything
[04:26] <rikupw> no matter what it is, bzip (just tried), tar, tar.gz, all the same error related to the compression
[04:26] <gasull> rikupw: also  aptitude install --reinstall tar
[04:26] <kfizz> Does anyone know where rhythmbox saves playlists? I migrated to a new HDD and copied over my home folder hoping rhythmbox would keep its playlists but it didn't. I still have access to the old HDD though.
[04:26] <rikupw> thanks :-)
[04:26] <chuckf> caleb2003: does your log file show any errors?
[04:27] <gasull> rikupw: did it work now?
[04:27] <SeaPhor> hrm... linuxguy2009 well, i went to do fresh install of 9.10, but the partitioner doesnt see any partitions,,, i have /home on a separate part.....
[04:27] <linuxguy2009> kfizz: user settings for apps are in home.
[04:27] <mMezquitale> Arsin, still there?  My mistake, youre not supposed to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg, run grub-probe and grub-update instead
[04:27] <rikupw> no, forgot to say sudo :P
[04:27] <kfizz> linuxguy2009, that's why I copied over the home folder from my old HDD, but it didn't copy the playlists.
[04:27] <linuxguy2009> SeaPhor: You want to erase the drive completely and start fresh?
[04:28] <caleb2003> chuckf: there is no log file in the etc/samba folder do you mean somewhere else?
[04:28] <chuckf> caleb2003: in /var/log/samba
[04:28] <rikupw> same error gasull :(
[04:28] <xcat> does anybody know what part of ubuntu detects the resolutions? like a package/program does this
[04:29] <linuxguy2009> kfizz: open rhythm box and right click playlist and export to file. ;)
[04:29] <soreau> xcat: Depends on your graphics driver
[04:29] <jeffmr> xcat, probably Xorg configuration
[04:29] <SeaPhor> nvm linuxguy2009 ... i got this, its .. above this lvl
[04:29] <xcat> soraeu: what if i'm using vesa
[04:29] <kfizz> linuxguy2009, I was hoping to avoid having to boot into the old HDD and just copy a file over, but I guess that seems to be the only option.
[04:30] <soreau> xcat: Sys>Prefs>Display on recent version of ubuntu
[04:30] <caleb2003> chuckf: http://pastebin.com/m74e90498 I appended it to the conf
[04:30] <linuxguy2009> kfizz: Its a simple option.
[04:30] <rikupw> ok that worked, thanks gasull apparently i typed "tar" twice with apt-get.  reinstalling gzip worked this time around.
[04:30] <gasull> rikupw: I'm glad :)
[04:30] <caleb2003> chuckf: from line 148
[04:31] <rikupw> that FloodBot1 is awesome by the way
[04:31] <actuallyanewb2> hi, i'm having a tricky problem installing gtk+, atk and pango
[04:31] <actuallyanewb2> will someone kindly lend me their ear?
[04:32] <lstarnes> actuallyanewb2: you might also need their -dev packages
[04:32] <drygr> :(
[04:32] <actuallyanewb2> well, i successfully installed glib
[04:32] <chuckf> caleb2003: I'm only seeing through line 146
[04:32] <lstarnes> actuallyanewb2: the libraries themselves should be installed, but ubuntu (and debian) doesn't typically install the -dev packages automatically
[04:32] <actuallyanewb2> but when i ran ./configure on atk, i got this error:
[04:32] <lstarnes> actuallyanewb2: you don't need to build those separately
[04:32] <lstarnes> actuallyanewb2: use the package manager instead
[04:33] <actuallyanewb2> "if glib is installed but not in the same location as pkg-config add the location of the file glib-2.0.pc to the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH"
[04:33] <teamcoltra> :P Sorry it happened again jeffmr.. I am going to try and get the channels changed, but is there anything else I can look at?
[04:33] <actuallyanewb2> i checked subversion and i couldn't find gtk+, glib, atk or pango
[04:33] <teamcoltra> My computer connected just fine in windows... and all the other computers maintaining their connection
[04:33] <actuallyanewb2> unless i'm searching for the wrong thing
[04:33] <ghufran> can someone help me figure out why gparted is not showing my partitions correctly?
[04:33] <jeffmr> teamcoltra, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[04:33] <caleb2003> chuckf: try this one http://pastebin.com/m479bb976
[04:34] <actuallyanewb2> err, not subversion, synaptic
[04:34] <actuallyanewb2> sorry
[04:34] <actuallyanewb2> i really am actually a newb
[04:34] <chrionix> On my netbook, when I try and uninstall cups, it wants to uninstall Ubuntu Netbook Remix as well, anyone know why?
[04:34] <mMezquitale> ghufran, what do you mean?  can you post a description of the problem? have you tried running gparted in a terminal using "sudo gparted"?
[04:34] <SeaPhor> ok, 9.04 live cd still sees my parts .. can i just re-install grub?? Flannel ?
[04:35] <ghufran> mMezquitale: i am trying to install ubuntu. usually it works fine but today it isnt .. it is showing 4 of my partitions and its combining the remaining 2 and labeling them 'unusable'
[04:36] <mMezquitale> ghufran, sounds like your hard drive has errors on it, are you using a live CD with gparted?
[04:38] <webbb82> does anyone in here know about gloobus for file previews   i installed it but when i run gloobus nothing hhappens
[04:38] <ghufran> mMezquitale: yes i am on a live cd. Its a new disk. i can do other operations just fine.. i just copied data from those partitions ... from within the live cd ..
[04:39] <mMezquitale> ghufran, try updating the BIOS on your machine.  Is it an old machine?
[04:39] <ghufran> mMezquitale: im trying to dual boot actually .. and i am thinking it might be a problem with the number of primary disks .. is there a way to find out?
[04:39] <ghufran> mMezquitale: its a new laptop.
[04:39] <mMezquitale> ghufran, how many primary disks do you have??
[04:39] <mcurran> what's your issue ghufran
[04:39] <chrionix> ghufran: you can have 4 primary partitions
[04:40] <switchgirl> hi i need help my gnome-panel apeared on four sides so i removed the application (sudo aptitude remove gnome-panel) to try and sort it, (and reinstalled it) i have no menues now
[04:40] <mcurran> right click on desktop and select add panel - That's also how you should have removed it.
[04:41] <ghufran> mMezquitale: i dont know how many are primary .. gparted doesnt show it .. and even if i cant have more than 4 .. it should show me the error when i try to create more :S
[04:41] <switchgirl> mcurran: no luck
[04:41] <chrionix> ghufran: I think in the older computers there was some rule that bootable partitions had to be within a certain size of the beginning of the drive
[04:41] <mcurran> ghufran:  It will tell you no when you click apply
[04:41] <ghufran> mcurran: tryig to dualboot ubuntu 9.1 with windows 7 .. partitions are not showing up correct
[04:41] <stephenahpohliss> could anyone plz tell me the difference between 'dir -a' and 'ls -a'
[04:41] <joshua___> chronix: 9gb due to having to use int 13 to access hard disk
[04:42] <centHOGG> dir -a like in dos?
[04:42] <joshua___> chronix: more or less gone since 2001 or so
[04:42] <chrionix> joshua___: yeah okay cool
[04:42] <mcurran> switchgirl:  try right clicking where the panel would go, right at the bottom...
[04:42] <stephenahpohliss> yeah, i tried it in the terminal and it listed directories without colors..
[04:42] <nut> I just made an installation USB drive, but when I boot to it I get a flashing cursor --- any ideas?
[04:43] <joshua___> nut: ls <ENTER>
[04:43] <joshua___> anything happen?
[04:43] <nut> joshua___: sadly no :(
[04:43] <BLUE_BALLS> how do i keep my mic from picking up so much static?
[04:43] <nut> joshua___: same with space, tab, esc, etc
[04:43] <joshua___> there's a bug in debian ash that when it triggers you don't get a prompt
[04:43] <switchgirl> there is nothin there mcurran
[04:43] <joshua___> they really ought to have fixed that
[04:43] <chrionix> Anyone know why when I try and uninstall cups, it wants to uninstall Ubuntu Netbook Remix as well?
[04:44] <joshua___> chrionix: the remix selectes packages for that deploy mode
[04:44] <nut> joshua___: interesting, it works when booting to the live disk
[04:44] <nut> joshua___: it was only doing that when I was selecting the installation option, hmm
[04:45] <mcurran> Did you try reselecting the default theme under Change Desktop Background.
[04:45] <mMezquitale> ghufran, what is showing 4 of your partitions  and combining the other 2? I am lost now
[04:45] <nut> I'll try installing via the installer once it's booted, then
[04:45] <bondy> you need t ununstall the  packages individualh
[04:45] <bondy> *Y
[04:45] <BLUE_BALLS> how do i keep my mic from picking up so much static?
[04:45] <mMezquitale> chrionix, why would you want to uninstall cups?
[04:45] <switchgirl> tried that before with no luck
[04:45] <joshua___> no printer perhaps
[04:45] <BleedinRomeo> BleedinRomeo
[04:46] <gooraang> #bitme
[04:46] <bondy> cups is only needed for printing
[04:46] <mMezquitale> BLUE_BALLS, first go get some, then install ubuntustudio and then get yourself a decent sound card, youll always get static without a decent sound card
[04:46] <gooraang> join #bitme
[04:46] <switchgirl> i managed to open ff by the get more themes online... thats one step
[04:46] <chuckf> caleb2003: the file looks right. I'm thinking that maybe there's a firewall setting or something in the network setup
[04:46] <jatt> any dell 1525 laptop user here
[04:46] <chrionix> mMezquitale: Because I'm currently in Afghanistan, have no need of a printer on my netbook, and when I update it wants to update a billion packages for cups that I don't need.
[04:46] <gasull> BLUE_BALLS: Applications -> Sound & Video -> Sound Recorder -> File -> Open Volume Control -> Input    Maybe you can adjust it here.
[04:46] <BLUE_BALLS> mMezquitale, i have an msi wind netbook
[04:47] <joshua___> heck remove the remix
[04:47] <joshua___> I had to remove kubuntu-desktop long ago
[04:47] <SeaPhor> ok, 9.04 live cd still sees my partitions .. can i just re-install grub?? Flannel ? anyone?
[04:47] <caleb2003> chuckf: I'm trying to access the shares from an original xbox through xbmc there is no firewall and it did work fine with KDE
[04:47] <joshua___> usplash is incompatible with my hardware
[04:47] <ghufran> mMezquitale: this is how it looks like when i boot into windows .. Boot partition FAT16, Recovery Disk, "System Reserved 104MB", "C:", then G: and H:
[04:47] <SeaPhor> bazhang, ?
[04:47] <mMezquitale> BLUE_BALLS, I will refer you to my previous comment, there are USB sound cards out there as well
[04:49] <ghufran> on gparted, the last 2 are not there .. instead, theres just 'unusable' partition equal in size of both of them combined ..
[04:49] <chuckf> are the ports open on the samba server?
[04:49] <mMezquitale> chrionix, what you want to do is disable cups or make it so that cups gets ignored by update-manager, that is the question you want to ask, if someone knows the answer they will surely reply, if you know how to use google search for the criteria I just mentioned, I have never tried it myself
[04:50] <caleb2003> chuckf: yes
[04:50] <chrionix> mMezquitale: Yeah, I'm currently looking for that as we speak, It just interested me that uninstalling cups wanted to uninstall unr, thought I'd ask why
[04:50] <anom01y> anyone here use recordmydesktop ?
[04:50] <caleb2003> nothings changed except for the desktop, I'm guessing its a quirk of the gnome
[04:51] <anom01y> I am having troubles figuring out what to put in the 'device' section to get the sound working in gtk-recordmydesktop
[04:51] <anom01y> I tried 'ALSA' but it does not work
[04:51] <chuckf> I'd say the next step is strip down the smb.conf and build it til it breaks
[04:52] <caleb2003> ok, i'll have a play, thanks for checking
[04:52] <jercos> Thought I'd drop by and give you guys an update: my direct dist-upgrade from intrepid to karmic seems to be sorted, apparently support for this card was dropped in a more recent fglrx, so I baleeted xorg.conf and everything works great now.
[04:52] <ghufran> is there a way to figure out what primary partitions i have?
[04:52] <chrionix> ghufran: you're going to have to repartition your whole hard drive, you need to make the excess drives logical
[04:52] <jercos> Thanks to FireCrotch for the pointer in the direction of Xorg >.>
[04:52] <crohakon> So, I have never been able to get my headphone jack to work... and I think I released why... my laptop, when in windows, uses Nvidia sound drives... Any information on how I can use these in ubuntu?
[04:52] <mMezquitale> chrionix, looks like it's tied to the distribution somehow, I've been wanting to beta test mixxx in ubuntustudio but it wont let me uninstall mixxx, i have to uninstall the whole damn dang, do me a favor and say hella to your local haji
[04:52] <chrionix> mMezquitale: lol, wilco
[04:53] <ghufran> chrionix: i fear i might need to .. but i first need to see how many primary partitions do i have
[04:53] <chrionix> ghufran: I think from memory the extended partition shows up in gparted as the size of the logical partitions combined
[04:54] <yrlnry> For some reason all my videos are playing with the colors reversed.
[04:54] <chrionix> ghufran: extended partition being like a container that logicals sit in
[04:54] <yrlnry> This affects mplayer, and also videos that play embedded in firefox, but not flash video.
[04:54] <yrlnry> What is going on and how do I fix it?
[04:55] <chrionix> ghufran: I would recommend backing up your hard drives, making a plan on how you want your partitions to look, the rebuilding the partition table
[04:55] <mMezquitale> chrionix, not exactly, if he has exceeded the max amount of primary hard drive ghufran has to delete one primary hard drive and create one logical hard drive, within the logical hard drive he can create as many extended partitions as he needs
[04:55] <draconis> yrlnry, sounds an awful lot like a trashed gstreamer
[04:56] <yrlnry> Why so?
[04:56] <mMezquitale> ghufran, can you boot up into a live CD with gparted and tell us what gparted sees??
[04:56] <chrionix> mMezquitale: yeah I know, but in my experience, that always turns out sloppy, I always tend to recreate a partition table so it's neatly ordered :P it could be due to OCD though :P
[04:56] <draconis> well, if mplayer is not using gstreamer, it's one of the underlying libraries
[04:56] <ghufran> chrionix: yes i know .. i could do that .. and it might not be the problem were thinking it is . . and all my installations go down the drain ..
[04:56] <draconis> yrlnry, apparently not every video player is broken, since Flash isn't
[04:56] <ghufran> mMezquitale: yes i can ... is there a place i can post a screenshot?
[04:56] <draconis> but flash has separate libraries for everything so it "just works"
[04:57] <mMezquitale> !screenshot
[04:57] <music_freak> test
[04:58] <mMezquitale> the test didnt work, install ubuntustudio for better results
[04:58] <SeaPhor> someone plz tell me that the 9.10 live cd partitioner has a known bug that it doesnt recognize some hdd /partitions??? i am stuck on the 9.04 live cd which does see my partitions, but after using the 9.10 alternate cd that WIPED OUT my 9.04 installation...
[04:58] <ghufran> mMezquitale, chrionix: http://imagebin.org/72405
[04:59] <mMezquitale> SeaPhor, if that is the case I suggest you post a bug report
[04:59] <draconis> SeaPhor, you can't boot from 9.10?
[05:00] <mMezquitale> ghufran, what did you do?!?  you have 4 primary partitions, you cant create more partitions.
[05:00] <SeaPhor> draconis, yes, and can go to live session, start the installer and it gets to the partitioner and it dont see any partitions
[05:00] <chrionix> ghufran: yeah, exactly your problem, you've used up all your partitions
[05:00] <draconis> SeaPhor, that sounds an awful lot like RedHat's "smart" partition detection
[05:01] <yrlnry> draconis:  I ran gstreamer-properties and ran the output test, and the test pattern looks fine.
[05:01] <ghufran> mMezquitale: where does it say they are primary?!??!?
[05:01] <mMezquitale> ghufran, why is sda1 41MB and using fat16?!?
[05:01] <chrionix> ghufran: if you delete the last one, you can create an extended partition with all that extra space as well
[05:01] <SeaPhor> draconis, i'm on the 9.04 live cd now, and does see the parts
[05:01] <chrionix> mMezquitale: I hate to say I told you so, but that partition table is screaming for a wipe :P
[05:02] <phongphrai> hello, who can help me install a tar.bz2 software please?
[05:02] <draconis> does look like the partition table is screwed up some how
[05:02] <draconis> SeaPhor, ^
[05:02] <mMezquitale> ghufran, because they are "partitions", they are "primary" partitions.  If it's not a "primary" partition it will be labed "extended"
[05:02] <ghufran> mMezquitale: that 41MB is by our DELL friends .. came out of the box. chrionix: cant delete the last one .. its the windows partition .. and the one before that .. with size 104MB is also created by stupid windows 7
[05:03] <jongbergs> phongphrai: u need to extract the package
[05:03] <jongbergs> phongphrai: it's a compressed tarball
[05:03] <mMezquitale> omg I think we have found redmond attempting to make users to use only windows7
[05:03] <phongphrai> jongbergs, ok and then?
[05:03] <chrionix> ghufran : I would re-iterate you need to backup and wipe, create your partitions with gparted first
[05:04] <jongbergs> phongphrai: using nautilus, right clik on the file select extract here
[05:04] <phongphrai> its done already
[05:04] <jongbergs> phongphrai: what software is that?
[05:04] <mMezquitale> ghufran, are you able to install windows7 in your harddrive?
[05:04] <syrius> is that ubuntu 9.10 slow internet bug fixed yet?
[05:04] <chrionix> ghufran: windows is like a hammer to partitions man, it just steamrolls anything in it's way
[05:04] <SeaPhor> draconis, i had 9.04 installed and working no prob,, i never "upgrade" i always do fresh install, but the 9.10 live didn't see my partitions so Flannel  suggested the alt cd,,, well that wiped me out and cant boot my original, thats why i'm on the 9.04 live session
[05:04] <phongphrai> jongbergs, BRL-CAD..i cant find any configure or autogen script
[05:05] <ghufran> mMezquitale: yea maybe they are .. i already have windows 7 installed .. with loads of installations ..
[05:05] <jongbergs> phongphrai: what are the contents of the package?
[05:05] <crohakon> syrius, is IPv6 enabled? I know when I was running OpenSUSE I had really slow internet until I disabled IPv6. Then everything was great.
[05:06] <draconis> SeaPhor, if you can't boot from the 9.10 install that you did with the alt cd, then it sounds like a Grub2 problem
[05:06] <ghufran> ok then .. it looks like there is no other solution .. i guess ubuntu will have to wait while i back up
[05:06] <phongphrai> jongbergs, many folders and files of differents kind
[05:06] <mMezquitale> ghufran, but are you able to reinstall windows7?
[05:06] <phongphrai> jongbergs, 3800 files
[05:07] <SeaPhor> draconis, the alt cd install hung, but apparently wiped out my original...
[05:07] <jongbergs> phongphrai: does it come with documentation? im pretty sure the website from which you obtained the software provide a kind of installation intructions
[05:07] <ghufran> mMezquitale: i think i should be able to .. didnt try it out .. why ? that might be a problem too?
[05:08] <phongphrai> jongbergs, the doc says to type ./configure but there no such file in the whole archive
[05:08] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: what do u mean wiped out? i thought your proble has been resolved already?
[05:08] <Dallas1> linuxguy: are you here?
[05:09] <draconis> SeaPhor, well, did you try reinstalling?
[05:09] <mMezquitale> ghufran, I mean if you have a CD and valid license, you should be able to  reinstall windows7 but I suggest you google for windows7 and ubuntu, what you want to do is delete all those little partitions and create a partition for windows7 and then create an extended partition, just to be safe
[05:09] <sumeetbali> SodaPhish,you online?
[05:09] <SeaPhor> jongbergs, what on earth would make you think that my issue has been resolved??? its only compounded now...??
[05:09] <ghufran> mMezquitale: yes. thats what im going to do.
[05:09] <jongbergs> phongphrai: ok, i get it, the package contains the source files..therefore you need to go to terminal go to where you extracted the package and type ./configure
[05:09] <chrionix> ghufran:  and make your boot partition ext2 or something, fat16 boot partitions are just nasty :P
[05:09] <SeaPhor> draconis, reinstalling what? 9.04?
[05:10] <sumeetbali> SodaPhish,you online?
[05:10] <mMezquitale> ghufran, i suppose now you know what a primary partition looks like?
[05:10] <draconis> SeaPhor, well, if it works better than 9.10 (which didn't)
[05:10] <flan_suse> This is actually a Linux Mint Helena issue, but it's related to Karmic. I followed the guide to install to an encrypted root partition, and so I tried it out on a virtual machine. When I reboot, I am dropped to a recovery shell that says "ALERT! /dev/mapper/croot does not exist"
[05:10] <ghufran> chrionix: i dont think i can do that .. the recovery disk and all might never boot again..
[05:10] <flan_suse> However, I can then use cryptsetup to unlock the encrypted partition and then resume booting.
[05:10] <ghufran> atleast i dont know how to do it :P
[05:11] <vmubuntu> Why doesn't this command work in the Linux Mint 7 terminal:  sudo apt-get install vmware-player-kernel-modules
[05:11] <Dallas1> I've got the installer for 8.04.3 running on my netbook through flash-drive, and I'm at the part where it asks you to install cd-rom drivers to complete the installation, how would I direct it to install from the usb drive instead of the cd-rom(which doesn't exist)
[05:11] <phongphrai> jongbergs, bash says no such file or foler
[05:11] <flan_suse> Why is this not done automatically? And what can I do so that it is automatic and asks for my LUKS password, rather than falling to a recovery shell?
[05:11] <chrionix> ghufran: yeah, I wonder what that unkown partition is, it's weird that linux doesn't recognise it, I thought it recognised everything
[05:12] <flan_suse> Dallas1, you need to copy a modified image on the USB stick.
[05:12] <chrionix> ghufran: if it weren't for that fact you have an 'unkown' partition, I would say grub would be able to boot from your recovery partition, but maybe not in this case
[05:12] <flan_suse> Dallas1, is it the alternate installer?
[05:12] <ghufran> chrionix: that unknown is actually two partitions
[05:12] <jongbergs> !info brlcad
[05:12] <cellofellow> What's the point of encrypting executable code? I use ecryptfs for my encryption.
[05:12] <Dallas1> flan:yes
[05:12] <mcurran> yeah, linux needs write support for HFS+
[05:13] <cellofellow> brl-cad is the DoD's 3D CAD app.
[05:13] <cellofellow> But I don't think it's been packaged.
[05:13] <flan_suse> Dallas1, I thought so.
[05:13] <woodyjlw> my bottom panel on 9.04 is gone and cant find it. how do I get it back ?
[05:13] <phongphrai> ubottu, how can i install the software then?
[05:13] <jongbergs> cellofellow: can you help out phongphrai problem?
[05:13] <flan_suse> Dallas1, yeah, I had to go through the same thing. You need to get a copy of the modified image to throw onto the stick.
[05:13] <yrlnry> draconis:  problem turns out to be with nvidia video driver.   Described here:  http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/multimedia/405120-videos-show-reverse-colors.html
[05:13] <cellofellow> phongphrai: jongbergs: sure
[05:13] <yrlnry> draconis:  thanks for your help.
[05:13] <noneNN> Im having problems installing ubuntu in a netbook, I have a bangho netbook B-NOX1, and Im trying to install ubuntu via USB pendrive, the bios says it can boot from USB HDD, but It doesnt detect the usb drive, Ive tried booting from the pendrive with other machine and it works perfect, Im wondering if could be a pendrive size issue, its 8gb... should I try with a smaller one?
[05:13] <bazhang> !resetpanels | woodyjlw
[05:13] <jongbergs> cellofellow: he wasn't able to run ./configure
[05:14] <woodyjlw> thanks :)
[05:14] <Dallas1> flan:ugh, where do I get that? Why can't intel just support linux and release open source drivers so I can use 9.10
[05:14] <Dallas1> ?
[05:14] <jongbergs> woodyjlw: you can just press alt+f2 to type the command
[05:14] <draconis> yrlnry, yw, glad you figured it out
[05:14] <chrionix> noneNN: Is it set to boot the pendrive automatically? Or do you have to press esc or whatever, to go into a boot menu?
[05:15] <phongphrai> well, unless anyone have i better suggestion...i want to be able to draw mecanicals and houses
[05:15] <flan_suse> Dallas1, one second. I think I have it in my bookmarks.
[05:15] <noneNN> chrionix, ive tried both ways and it didnt work out
[05:15] <greezmunkey> Question on new install, I have two drives installed, manualy built "/" on the 80GB drive with 64GB available, same drive has 4GB swap, I built /home on drive 2 with 20GB available, will what work?
[05:15] <jongbergs> phongphrai: how come it doesn't have configure file in it..did you verify the downloaded package?
[05:15] <woodyjlw> it worked!  lol too easy but im still learning :)  thanks
[05:15] <mMezquitale> Dallas1, because all the hardware vendors want to make it a secret as to how their hardware works
[05:16] <chrionix> noneNN: that's weird, are you sure the pendrive is bootable?
[05:16] <B166er-X> gasull i dont get how to install doubletwist on virtual box ... .dmg ? is there something i'm missing ?
[05:16] <noneNN> chrionix, yes, i can boot it in my notebook
[05:16] <phongphrai> theres only one place to download it...does anyone on earth as ever tried a cad software downloaded from internet and install it on ubuntu??
[05:16] <cellofellow> BRL-CAD doesn't seem to be an easy one to install.
[05:16] <Dallas1> mMezquitale: even if it renders their hardware useless to thousands?
[05:16] <mMezquitale> greezmunkey, yes, it will work
[05:17] <Dallas1> phogphrai: have you used blender?
[05:17] <mMezquitale> Dallas1, yup yup
[05:17] <jh2os> hey, got a question about flash
[05:17] <jh2os> flash player
[05:17] <cellofellow> phongphrai: might want to vote for this brainstorm http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9318/
[05:17] <mMezquitale> !ask | jh2os
[05:17] <phongphrai> Dallas1, is it in ubuntu repository?
[05:17] <chrionix> noneNN: Okay, so it's definately a problem with the bios on your netbook, does pressing escape during boot up present you with a boot menu?
[05:18] <jh2os> Flash applications are unresponsive when clicked
[05:18] <Dallas1> phogphrai: it should be. let me check
[05:18] <jh2os> sometimes they work and others they dont
[05:18] <mcurran> Does anyone know a xorg.conf tweak so my ancient ATI 3D RAGE LT PRO will have better video playback in firefox (mpeg, wmv, etc.)
[05:18] <lstarnes> jh2os: are you using the 64-bit version?
[05:18] <greezmunkey> mMezquitale, thanks, it runs well so far. I figured the root filesystem will be taken up with additional progs, while databases etc will live on /home
[05:18] <scott_ino2> oh heavens pixelize is broken
[05:18] <jh2os> is it a problem with the Ubuntu/firefox pakage?
[05:19] <cellofellow> phongphrai: where'd you download brl-cad? brlcad.org has a Linux binary and the source. I'd try both (in that order).
[05:19] <gasull> B166er-X: virtualbox-ose + Windows + doubletwist
[05:19] <lstarnes> jh2os: there is a known issue with the 64-bit package for flash
[05:19] <cellofellow> And read the docs. Really that's all I can say.
[05:19] <ssmy> anyone have an idea how to find out if my ethernet is gigabit? hwinfo isn't telling me, at least.
[05:19] <scott_ino2> lstarnes, what's the known issue
[05:19] <jh2os> yea i got 64 bit
[05:19] <noneNN> chrionix, yeah i mean i can go into the menus and select all usb entries and none of them will work
[05:19] <flan_suse> Dallas1, still looking.
[05:19] <mMezquitale> greezmunkey, just make sure you specify the correct hard drives when you install, if you have any issues come back
[05:19] <lstarnes> scott_ino2: clicking on flash applets sometimes fails
[05:19] <cellofellow> phongphrai: have you tried qcad?
[05:19] <greezmunkey> mMezquitale, all I need to do now is hack an access point to go from wireless to ethernet in the garage and I'm good.
[05:20] <electricTape> sup guys.  First time linux user here.  How do I install adobe flash.  Do I choose the YUM version and then use package manager?
[05:20] <scott_ino2> lstarnes, ahh i see
[05:20] <lstarnes> electricTape: are you using ubuntu?
[05:20] <gasull> B166er-X: If you use doubletwist you can copy from/to your ipod and use it in other computers too.  Sadly you need to install Windows in VirtualBox for this.
[05:20] <mcurran> No, choose the deb package
[05:20] <jongbergs> ssmy: lspci -v
[05:20] <Dallas1> phogphrai: blender is in the repository. I used it a little for some 3d modelling last month, it's extremely powerfull. Just has a bit of a learning curve
[05:20] <jh2os> deb version
[05:20] <electricTape> yes ubuntu
[05:20] <greezmunkey> mMezquitale, I have it up already, but could rip it apart if needed.
[05:20] <B166er-X> gasull , yah, got this part ;) i installed Windows Xp on a partition with virtual box, but i do not have any 'internet connection' or USB support  on it  , so i
[05:20] <mMezquitale> greezmunkey, at one point I had the same swap used by 3 different versions of ubuntu until karmic was released, off course off course
[05:20] <jongbergs> ssmy: or lshw -c network
[05:20] <lstarnes> electricTape: ubuntu doesn't use YUM
[05:20] <phongphrai> cellofellow, i dowloaded from http://brlcad.org/d/download
[05:20] <B166er-X> gasull ok, doubletwist is a windows app ?
[05:20] <Dallas1> electrictape: just get it from synaptic package manager.
[05:20] <SeaPhor> lstarnes, is there a known issue with the 9.10 live installer's partitioner not seeing any partitions?
[05:20] <cellofellow> phongphrai: which version? The Linux or the Source?
[05:20] <gasull> B166er-X: yes
[05:20] <lstarnes> electricTape: look for flashplugin in synaptic
[05:20] <ssmy> jongbergs: thanks, forgot that existed.
[05:21] <lstarnes> SeaPhor: I don't know
[05:21] <lstarnes> SeaPhor: I'm still using 8.04
[05:21] <chrionix> noneNN: I don't know what to tell you man, what happens when you boot from the pendrive?
[05:21] <jongbergs> ssmy: no probs :)
[05:21] <scott_ino2> anyone tested flash-plugin 10.1
[05:21] <gasull> B166er-X: another possibility is VirtualBox + hackintosh + doubletwist
[05:21] <greezmunkey> mMezquitale, I am a bit concerned with allocating 4GB for swap, but I plan to bring this box up to 4GB of ram soon, so it should be ok me thinks...
[05:21] <draconis> B166er-X, just.. probably a little easier to crack the thing and install ssh
[05:21] <draconis> B166er-X, then you can access the iPod like a normal computer, send files, etc
[05:21] <B166er-X> draconis, its brand new, and i dont want to screw the warranty
[05:22] <phongphrai> cellofellow, brlcad_7.10.4_ia32.tar.bz2
[05:22] <mcurran> jailbreaking an iphone does not ruin warranty just flash back if you need to
[05:22] <noneNN> chrionix, im my notebook its boots perfectly, and so in other computers, but the issue is with the the netbook, but i dont know if its somehitng about size of pendrive and bios compability...
[05:22] <Dallas1> actually, if I could somehow diagnose this random lockup I wouldn't need to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.04.3
[05:22] <mcurran> that's why you save the firmware
[05:22] <mMezquitale> greezmunkey, swap depends on how much memory you have, I have never noticed swap being used on my laptop with 2 gigs of memory
[05:22] <SeaPhor> lstarnes, thank you, that's the first honest answer i've seen all night. and btw, on my main boxes,, so am I
[05:22] <roger_> hello anyone how to backup blackberry data on ubuntu 9.10
[05:23] <cellofellow> phongphrai: that's a binary download. If you untar it there should be a file you can just run (though I'm not sure). Once you get it running you're on your own, I have no idea how to use CAD software.
[05:23] <mMezquitale> !blackberry
[05:23] <lstarnes> SeaPhor: I am pretty sure I have seen other valid answers
[05:23] <chrionix> noneNN: It really shouldn't be that, netbooks are very recent creatures, I'm sure any bios will handle an 8gb stick
[05:23] <mcurran> whatever, same difference
[05:23] <wuyan> Who received a CD-ROM??
[05:23] <cellofellow> phongphrai: if it doesn't work the try downloading and compiling the Source package from the same webpage.
[05:23] <lstarnes> SeaPhor: I honestly haven't done anything to help you beyond saying that I don't know how to help you
[05:23] <SeaPhor> lstarnes, sorry, i mainly meant to my questions
[05:23] <Dallas1> roger: opensync?
[05:23] <flan_suse> Dallas1, any reason not to try 9.10?
[05:24] <mMezquitale> roger_, backing up your blackberry is a topic I would rather you use a forum instead of the support channel
[05:24] <greezmunkey> mMezquitale, yeah, the server box currently has 512MB ram, 146MB free, 0 swap, but it's really not doing anything right now.
[05:24] <Dallas1> roger: or barrybackup-gui
[05:24] <phongphrai> cellofellow, extracting the file brlcad_7.10.4_ia32.tar.bz2 gives me a folder containing 2800 files with a doc that doesnt apply properly to how install
[05:24] <noneNN> chrionix, mmm i havent tried with another pendrive... it could be the pendrive too... ive seen some guys having similar problems on the web
[05:24] <lstarnes> SeaPhor: someone else here might know, but you're the first user that I've heard about that issue from
[05:24] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: try using the same karmic cd then go straight installing ubuntu from the install menu
[05:24] <chrionix> noneNN: Does the pendrive actually come up in the boot menu?
[05:24] <mMezquitale> greezmunkey, smoke 'em if you got 'em, I would use 1 gig for swap though but if you already have the partition then just go ahead with the install
[05:24] <Dallas1> flan: the driver isn't made for 9.1
[05:25] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: don't use the live session for now..
[05:25] <cellofellow> phongphrai: BRLCAD is still very much an in-house Department of Defese project, so they've obviously neglected some things that third party users need like docs and an installation script.
[05:25] <mMezquitale> roger_,  i have read it is possible though unlike my htc mogul
[05:25] <chrionix> noneNN: I'm not talking about going into the bios, I'm talking about a little menu that pops up, and gives you a choice of bootable media found
[05:25] <Dallas1> flan: the graphics driver
[05:25] <mcurran> If you're going to install to a pendrive/usb, I would recommend doing a live persistent install rather than a regular install.  Then you can save changes and also use it on other computers two
[05:25] <lstarnes> jh2os: if you are using compiz, try disabling it
[05:25] <phongphrai> cellofellow, i see...besides qcad is only 2D
[05:26] <lstarnes> jh2os: I've heard that many other users with the same issue fixed it temporarily by disabling compiz
[05:26] <cellofellow> phongphrai: search "cad" in synaptic, there's a half-dozen other packages you can try.
[05:26] <Dallas1> flan: I don't think there's alot of functionality for it in 9.04 but it's working right now, it just locks up after 10 minutes or so of use.
[05:26] <noneNN> chrionix, yes, but it doesnt detect the pendrive i can only see the sata driev
[05:26] <flan_suse> Dallas1, can you write down the exact message it gives you?
[05:26] <jh2os> hmmm ok
[05:26] <flan_suse> Dallas1, I can't find my bookmark, and I don't know the phrase to help find it.
[05:26] <cellofellow> phongphrai: and if you don't need true CAD functionality, like the ability to drive a CNC machine or the like, then maybe a 3D modeller like Blender would do the job.
[05:27] <chrionix> noneNN: ahh okay
[05:27] <jh2os> Why cant it be installed from the site though, says it has a building error when the installer comes up?
[05:27] <flan_suse> Dallas1, I have been through this before, and the solution worked, but I can't seem to find the link again.
[05:27] <phongphrai> cellofellow, ok i will try this now
[05:27] <krishna> Hi
[05:27] <Dallas1> flan: I don't even know if the lockup is a graphics issue, because my mouse will work, but the OS and whatever program I have open is unresponsive. I've let it sit for an hour with no changes
[05:28] <flan_suse> Dallas1, I mean the message you get when trying to install via a USB stick
[05:28] <krishna>  is there a guiway to reinstall grub that gets lost after windows install ? i read the help page of ubuntu site.. its all command line... users who switch from windows always want only the GUI way of doing this ... is it really a possible exisiting answer for this ?
[05:28] <chrionix> noneNN: have you got another pendrive you can try?
[05:28] <mcurran> Dallas1:  Are you installing to a USB or from a USB
[05:28] <git__> hello ubuntu experts
[05:28] <Dallas1> flan: oh, yeah. I'd rather use 9.04 if anyone knows a work around for this random freezing issue.
[05:29] <flan_suse> mcurran, he's trying to install from a USB to a netbook, with an Alternate Install.
[05:29] <Dallas1> mcurran: from
[05:29] <SeaPhor> lstarnes, the problem seems to be that all is different now, used to be that the knowledgeable ppl answered and the inexperienced ppl asked .. and this was watched, now the inexperienced are answering without any checks- i watched as someone explained in detail how to enable the root user and passwd the other day, which when i first joined here would have got me banned,,, there seems to be a gap here
[05:29] <faryshta> chrionix, on what kind of computer you are trying to install karmic?
[05:29] <noneNN> chrionix, an mp3 player but im worried i might have the mp3 player software if i format it
[05:29] <mcurran> Are you getting a grub error 17
[05:29] <flan_suse> mcurran, problem is, it looks for a CD Rom drive, which doesn't exist, but there's a modified boot image that overrides this and allows the installation to continue from the USB stick.
[05:29] <chrionix> faryshta: I'm not trying, noneNN is
[05:30] <Dallas1> mcurran: what flan said
[05:30] <git__> anyone know how to remove ad inside a streamlining flash clip or movie?
[05:30] <chrionix> noneNN: yeah, I wouldn't advise using that
[05:30] <mcurran> OK
[05:30] <faryshta> sorry. noneNN on what kind of computer you are trying to install Karmic?
[05:30] <greezmun1ey> mMezqitale, irc from the server...
[05:30] <mcurran> So does it boot up from USB or not yet
[05:30] <chrionix> SeaPhor: I agree with you totally, but it seems like the knowledgeable people have given up helping, so it's left to the dumbasses like myself to try and help :P
[05:30] <Dallas1> mcurran: it will boot. It gets to the portion where
[05:30] <noneNN> faryshta, its a bangho netbook b-nox1, its a netbook from argentina... it has intel chip phoenix bios
[05:31] <SeaPhor> i'm with you chrionix
[05:31] <mcurran> where...
[05:31] <flan_suse> mcurran, it looks for a CD-ROM drive, which doesn't exist, but there's a modified boot image that overrides this and allows the installation to continue from the USB stick.
[05:31] <Dallas1> mcurran: you install the cd-rom to start installation. and since it isn't a cd-rom. There's nowhere to go
[05:31] <faryshta> noneNN, when I installed Ubuntu on my netbook I had to ask a friend to lend me a USB-CD-DRIVE. I haven't figure out how to install Ubuntu in flash drives, sorry.
[05:31] <flan_suse> mcurran, I was able to get around this by putting a modified boot image onto the USB stick, and it worked.
[05:32] <phongphrai> cellofellow, looks usefull thank you
[05:32] <flan_suse> mcurran, I just forget where to find this modified image, even though I'm sure I bookmarked it.
[05:32] <skpl> hi, can someone tell me how to use the emerald window manager without going through compiz-fusion?
[05:32] <cellofellow> phongphrai: what is, sorry? Blender?
[05:32] <phongphrai> yes
[05:32] <phongphrai> but i wonder if i can draw my house with details inside
[05:32] <Dallas1> I'd really rather work with 9.04 now that I do have it working somewhat. I wish I could figure out the locking up issue if any people have experience with that.
[05:32] <flan_suse> Dallas1, and you said Karmic doesn't support your video card?
[05:33] <mcurran> tell grub, syslinux, or whatever where the real image is - which would be in the modified bootloaders configuration file
[05:33] <noneNN> faryshta, so u had same problem? did u use netbootin or any software like that?
[05:33] <electricTape> hey guys.  Im running ubuntu.  I installed Compiz but I don't have a Compiz preferences option when I go to system > preferences.  What am I doing wrong?
[05:33] <cellofellow> phongphrai: glad it helped. There's been some talk I've seen online of adding CAD features to Blender, but it's a bit in the future.
[05:33] <chrionix> SeaPhor: and if you take openprojects/freenode as a whole, #ubuntu has drastically brought down the exclusivity of the place. It's turned into a newbie farm
[05:33] <hlfshell> crap - forgot - wheres the sources.list stored?
[05:33] <faryshta> noneNN, no I asked a friend to lend me a USB-CD-DRIVE.
[05:33] <skpl> hi, can someone tell me how to use the emerald window manager without going through compiz-fusion?
[05:33] <lstarnes> hlfshell: /etc/apt
[05:33] <centHOGG> n00b farm?
[05:33] <hlfshell> thank you lstarnes
[05:33] <mcurran> hlfshell /etc
[05:33] <faryshta> Ans installed Ubuntu with a cheap liveCD.
[05:33] <soreau> ! ccsm | electricTape
[05:33] <phongphrai> cellofellow, i see
[05:34] <sumeetbali> anyone familiar with hackintsh please pm me
[05:34] <cellofellow> phongphrai: it'll be fun, that's for sure
[05:34] <lstarnes> sumeetbali: this channel is for ubuntu only
[05:34] <Dallas1> flan: unless you know of a poulsbo driver for karmic
[05:34] <SeaPhor> thats why i started my own channel chrionix
[05:34] <anom01y> trying to get the sound to record in recordmydesktop is seriously difficult
[05:34] <faryshta> Does anyone here could install Ubuntu 64 bits in a dual 64 bits processor?
[05:35] <flan_suse> Dallas1, I never heard of that.
[05:35] <anom01y> anyone know what to do to get it to work ?
[05:35] <mcurran> Dallas1:  What are you running on the netbook now?
[05:35] <ahumeniy> My T41 hangs when I'm connected to the Internet, please PM me
[05:35] <Dallas1> mcurran: 9.04
[05:35] <lstarnes> faryshta: which version of ubuntu?  I'm using 8.04 on a dual-core 64-bit system
[05:35] <skpl> is there anyway to use emerald without going through compiz?
[05:35] <chrionix> SeaPhor: yeah, I'm not really in a position to loiter in irc chans atm, I just come on as required
[05:35] <soreau> skpl: no
[05:35] <faryshta> lstarnes, sorry for not specificate. Karmic.
[05:36] <git__> is there a way to password protect a directory -- i have one account and need password protection to only one directory so that my sisters can't view it accidently when she's using my account
[05:36] <lstarnes> faryshta: the number of provessors shouldn't affect whether or not it can be installed
[05:36] <mcurran> Dallas1:  So did you understand what I said, you probably have the bootloader's kernel line and image entry pointing to /dev/cdrom0 instead of the USB drive
[05:36] <faryshta> Does anyone here could install Karmic 64 bits in a dual-core 64 bits processor?
[05:36] <flan_suse> Dallas1, I found it.
[05:36] <faryshta> lstarnes, I know it shouldn't... yet it does.
[05:36] <Dallas1> mcurran: I have no idea.
[05:37] <Dallas1> flan:excellent!
[05:37] <lstarnes> faryshta: if isn't working, then its probably something else making it not work
[05:37] <lstarnes> faryshta: having a dual-core system almost certainly wouldn't cause issues
[05:37] <SeaPhor> chrionix, well, i'm now stuck on a 9.04 live cd... so i'm looking for any assistance i can get, lol
[05:37] <mcurran> find out what bootloader the image is using, (probably syslinux) - mount the usb with 9.04 and modify the syslinux config file as appropriate
[05:37] <flan_suse> Dallas1, it's for 8.04, Hardy, right?
[05:37] <faryshta> lstarnes, I checked every corner, every test, everything I could think including md5, testing other machines and burn 4x.
[05:38] <faryshta> lstarnes, yet it DOES cause issues.
[05:38] <flan_suse> Dallas1, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
[05:38] <forgottenwizard> Where can I find the .config for the ubuntu kernel?
[05:38] <lstarnes> faryshta: have you checked for related bug reports on launchpad?
[05:38] <electricTape> hey guys.  WHats the best dock for ubuntu?
[05:38] <flan_suse> Dallas1, download the initrd and vmlinuz files.
[05:38] <faryshta> lstarnes, you can try. Burn Karmic 64 and try to start a liveCD on your dual-core processor.
[05:38] <mcurran> There isn't a config file for the kernel
[05:39] <faryshta> lstarnes, yes there is a bug report on launchpad for my model of machine. I don't know if it affect just my model or every dual-core.
[05:39] <git__> anyone here use fios?
[05:39] <lstarnes> faryshta: if it affected every dual core, it probably wouldn't have been released
[05:39] <faryshta> lstarnes, also I am looking if there is any way to get around this.
[05:39] <mcurran> I use FIOS
[05:40] <forgottenwizard> mcurran: So there is no way for me to find out what kind of option were used to compile this kernel?
[05:40] <faryshta> lstarnes, well that is what I am aiming to find.
[05:40] <mcurran> I don't know, but I do know how to compile again :)
[05:41] <mcurran> sudo CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs
[05:41] <forgottenwizard> mcurran: found it
[05:41] <lstarnes> faryshta: I haven't seen any bug reports that appear to affect all dual-core systems
[05:42] <mcurran> forgottenwizard:  Sorry, I thought you were looking at a kernel source
[05:42] <faryshta> lstarnes, there is.
[05:42] <lstarnes> faryshta: it's probably an issue specific to your model, but it might be a good idea to get an opinion from someone else
[05:43] <mcurran> Dallas1:  If you're still here - mount the USB with 9.04 and look in the boot folder for your bootloader
[05:43] <faryshta> lstarnes, ttp://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=es&safe=off&q=launchpad+boot+karmic+64
[05:43] <faryshta> lstarnes, I am trying to get opinion from other people RIGHT NOW.
[05:45] <radicaljoe> I'm using 32 bit on a 3 core system.  Is there an advantage to using 64 bit if you only have 2 GB of mem?
[05:45] <lstarnes> faryshta: which model are you using?
[05:46] <faryshta> Does anyone here could install Karmic 64 bits in a dual-core 64 bits processor?
[05:46] <faryshta> lstarnes, Dell Optiplex 740.
[05:46] <lstarnes> faryshta: which CPU?
[05:46] <chd1> what command can I use to install ajuntu?
[05:46] <faryshta> lstarnes, I have Ubuntu 9.04 64 bits there.
[05:46] <chd1> or that code writing software
[05:47] <faryshta> lstarnes, I don't get your last question.
[05:47] <lstarnes> faryshta: which cpu model does the dell optiplex 740 use?
[05:47] <faryshta> Dell Optiplex 740 IS a model of computer.
[05:47] <Maarten> I run 9.10 x64 here
[05:47] <chd1>  core 2 doesnt it lstarnes
[05:48] <faryshta> Maarten, you have dual-core? I mean two 64 bits processors?
[05:48] <lstarnes> chd1: I'm not sure, but that is certainly likely
[05:48] <chd1> we used to have them at the state
[05:48] <faryshta> Maarten, sorry the last "?" wasn't supossed to be there.
[05:48] <chd1> well we still have them at the state, I just down work there anymore
[05:48] <skpl> can someone tell me why my right click does not work?
[05:48] <spridel> i believe lstarnes is asking what Processor(s) you are using
[05:49] <faryshta> spridel, ohh. lstarnes 2x AMD Turion 64 bits.
[05:49] <Maarten> faryshta: Yeah, laptop with a dual core vPro Centrino
[05:50] <faryshta> Maarten, ohh then it must just affect AMD.
[05:50] <chd1> doesnt ubuntu 9.04 come with a c++ compiler on it already?
[05:50] <Maarten> dunno I have all Intel here
[05:50] <SeaPhor> wow,,, i have been a constant presence here since ubuntu 6.10, been away a bit and now i see,,, this is the beginning of the end of the best thing i have ever witnessed, used to be experienced ppl giving answers, ops monitoring bad advice, and good ppl of all experience levels interacting, now, its almost an open channel, get a grip ops,, or its over, as for me i'm out.
[05:51] <skpl> can someone tell me how to switch between emerlad and metacity?
[05:51] <RPG_Master> Anyone here ever installed Aleph One?
[05:51] <lstarnes> chd1: it might, but you will need build-essential
[05:51] <faryshta> chd1, no but to install the compiler just write: sudo apt-get build-essentials.
[05:51] <faryshta> Maarten, thanks you where really helpful.
[05:51] <RPG_Master> I am not getting any music in it :(    even though sound effect work fine..
[05:51] <mcurran> skol:  I think you need this in your xorg.conf under mouse section " Option	"ZAxisMapping"	"4 5""
[05:51] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: what exactly is your problem?
[05:52] <chd1> faryshta: does that have g++ in it?
[05:52] <lstarnes> chd1: yes
[05:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:52] <chd1> wow nice
[05:52] <lstarnes> chd1: it's build-essential, not build-essentials
[05:52] <mcurran> enjoy the show?
[05:52] <soreau> skpl: You mean gtk-window-decorator which uses metacity themes in which case you want 'gtk-window-decorator --replace'
[05:53] <RPG_Master> Anyone here ever installed Aleph One?
[05:53] <RPG_Master> I am not getting any music in it :(    even though sound effect work fine..
[05:53] <mcurran> Me too RPG
[05:53] <faryshta> RPG_Master, did you installed codecs?
[05:53] <RPG_Master> mcurran: Sound effects but no music?
[05:53] <soreau> skpl: You can set the default decorator in ccsm>Window Decoration>Command field
[05:53] <RPG_Master> faryshta: Yep
[05:53] <mcurran> Yes, but for every media player
[05:53] <chd1> E: invalid operation
[05:54] <chd1> for build-essential
[05:54] <Dallas1> flan: ya there?
[05:54] <lstarnes> chd1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:54] <RPG_Master> mcurran: meaning you can listen to the soundtrack in a media player? same for me
[05:54] <faryshta> RPG_Master, this will make me sound like a douche bag but have you tried checking the sound in the configurations of Gnome (or KDE).
[05:54] <RPG_Master> faryshta: Ya, and its fine man. You've gotta cover the basics :P
[05:55] <mcurran> Yes: RPG, but it doesn't output any sound, even when I fix alsamixer, only system sounds work
[05:55] <bobofosho13> i need some help, i've deleted a partitition containing ubuntu on my laptop in windows, and i re-formatted it so windows would recognize as a seperate partition on the hdd, but whenever i boot up my pc now, the GRUB loader that i had for the dual-boot gives me "error 17"
[05:55] <faryshta> chd1, the compiler is called g++.
[05:55] <bobofosho13> can someone help me?
[05:55] <SeaPhor> jongbergs, its not my individual issue that is the problem, i'll fix my issues, but ,,,just "have fun" and nvm ;-)
[05:55] <RPG_Master> mcurran: Wait, we're both talking about Aleph One right?
[05:55] <mcurran> Because you deleted grub's files also
[05:55] <jrib> bobofosho13: what operating systems do you have installed now?  Just windows?
[05:55] <bobofosho13> yeah just windows xp pro sp2
[05:56] <mcurran> RPG_Master, no I haven't used Aleph One, but have the same issue with all other players
[05:56] <jrivera> good day! how do i configure dhcpd.conf for two subnets with same netmask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:56] <RPG_Master> Aleph One is a game :(
[05:56] <mcurran> bobofosho13:  You need to reinstall your MBR
[05:56] <chd1> you know what software Im talking about though?
[05:56] <chd1> its like aujuntu?
[05:56] <skpl> soreau: i w3as not able to find that in ccsm
[05:56] <chd1> or something like that
[05:56] <bobofosho13> mcurran: how do i do that?
[05:56] <skpl> im looking to use emerald instead of metacity
[05:56] <chd1> has a purple horse as its shortcut
[05:56] <RPG_Master> mcurran: I was kinda hoping it was like a karmic issue and not just me :(
[05:56] <skpl> is there a command for that?
[05:57] <blankthemuffin> Hi I'm wondering what would be a good choice of tool in order to rip a dvd? I'm fine with the command line and thinking of ripping to ogg/vorbis?
[05:57] <faryshta> chd1, make the question again please.
[05:57] <Dallas1> Hey, I got a weird question, will 9.10 resize ntfs win7 partitions like other partitions for an install on my main machine?
[05:57] <dav> hi
[05:57] <bobofosho13> can someone who's interested in helping me open a pm
[05:57] <soreau> skpl: emerald --replace
[05:57] <chd1> I was wondering if anyone knew how to install aujuntu, or what it was called, the c++ coding program for ubuntu, it had a purple horse as the icon
[05:57] <mcurran> Do a recovery console with your XP disc and do FIXMBR or use a win98 cd and fdisk /mbr, just google it
[05:57] <skpl> soreau: ok thank you
[05:57] <faryshta> Dallas1, probably yes. If you have not your hard drive partitioned it surely will.
[05:58] <dav> problem: when i log into gnome, the window manager no longer starts (I was using compiz and doesn't work with metacity either). There's no window decoration, and I have to start the window manager manually. Any pointers as to where the problem might be?
[05:58] <skpl> soreau: very helpfull, thank you
[05:58] <soreau> dav: What do you want as default?
[05:58] <mcurran> g++ which comes with build-essential (I think) is a C++ compiler
[05:58] <dav> soreau: compiz
[05:58] <faryshta> chd1, if you want a compiler, g++ comes with build-essentials. Just type: g++ archive.cpp -o archive
[05:58] <bobofosho13> mcurran: there are some other issues surrounding this one that i need to tell u can i open a pm?
[05:58] <electricTape> hi how do I choose how many desktop spaces I have in Ubuntu?
[05:59] <mcurran> bobo:  sure
[05:59] <soreau> dav: Then you should set Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects to Extra
[05:59] <dav> soreau: already done. multiple times. still doesn't start on login.
[05:59] <chd1> no not a compiler, it was a program you could write c++ code in and itd color code it for you and stuff
[05:59] <Dallas1> faryshta: beautiful, I may have to try it then.
[05:59] <dav> soreau: (it works fine until I log out though)
[05:59] <soreau> dav: How are you starting it manually?
[06:00] <spridel> you want an IDE it sounds like chd1
[06:00] <jongbergs> SeaPhor: ok i see ppl here are trying their best to help you out..we just hope your issue will be fixed asap :)
[06:00] <lstarnes> electricTape: right-click on the workspace switcher applet, select preferences, then change the number of workspaces
[06:00] <mcurran> any text editor should do that:  vim emacs gedit
[06:00] <mcurran> you just need to set extension to .cpp
[06:00] <beowulf_> how do you open .chm files?
[06:00] <dav> soreau: basically by doing just what you describe. the window decorations appear, i can work, but when I log out and log back in, no more window manager.
[06:00] <jongbergs> beowulf_: install xchm
[06:00] <soreau> dav: How are you starting compiz manually?
[06:00] <git__> hey mcurran!
[06:01] <chd1> ya do you know which one Im talking about spridel
[06:01] <dav> soreau: by choosing extra
[06:01] <dav> soreau: that starts it
[06:01] <dav> soreau: i think just calling compiz from the terminal might work too
[06:01] <Dallas1> mcurran: flan was helping but I think he logged. I put initrd.gz and vmlinux on the usb stick, what else do I need to edit to tell it to use the usb and not cdr
[06:01] <dav> soreau: calling metacity definitely did work..
[06:01] <soreau> dav: Do you have compiz or fusion-icon in Sys>Prefs>Startup apps?
[06:01] <spridel> chd1: no, not off the top of my head i don't but i'll talke a look
[06:01] <radicaljoe> electricTape:You can right click on desktops and select properties.
[06:02] <spridel> chd1 anjuta IDA
[06:02] <faryshta> chd1, well here we have thousands of those. nano, vi for example.
[06:02] <spridel> IDE rather
[06:02] <faryshta> I use Vi for my programs.
[06:02] <dav> soreau: nope.
[06:02] <chd1> yaya anjuta
[06:02] <chd1> sudo apt-get install anjuta?
[06:02] <chd1> will that work?
[06:03] <faryshta> chd1, yes.
[06:03] <spridel> its avaible in the Ubunto software center...i'm a graphics/n00b user
[06:03] <soreau> dav: When you log in and look at the visual effects radio buttons, what is it set to?
[06:03] <chd1> man I love how easy it is to install software
[06:03] <dav> soreau: none
[06:03] <dav> soreau: (and metacity isn't running either: no window manager)
[06:04] <soreau> dav: My best guess is you have permission issues in ~/ ($HOME)
[06:04] <dav> soreau: didn't touch any of that recently - should i have compiz in startup?
[06:04] <soreau> dav: You could try to work around it by putting compiz in startup
[06:04] <faryshta> chd1, so far I can read on the description, that program is meant to be used with Gnome so you will get the best features and speed here using Linux.
[06:05] <kain> hi, i was wondering how my second hd can automatically mount everytime i login?
[06:05] <kain> i've done it before, but i don't remember how i did it
[06:06] <dav> k let me try that
[06:06] <jongbergs> kain: add entries to your /etc/fstab
[06:06] <napster> Hi all...Which application should I use for downloading files using magnet-link...?
[06:06] <neal__> does anyone have a google wave invite they would like to share
[06:06] <dav> soreau: not very elegant but it works. thank you.
[06:07] <jongbergs> kain: you need to know the device name of your hd you wish to automatically mount
[06:07] <napster> Hi all...Which application should I use for downloading files using magnet-link...?
[06:07] <kain> jongbergs : i used a program last time to do it
[06:08] <kain> jongbergs: i got "Disk Utility", "NTFS configuration tool" and "Storage device manager"
[06:09] <perscitus> Why did karmic break crontab?
[06:10] <jongbergs> kain: what filesystem does your drive is?
[06:11] <kain> jongbergs: the one i want to automatically mount is Linux Ext4
[06:11] <jeffmr> which filesystem should you use for karmic?  ext4 or 3?
[06:12] <lstarnes> jeffmr: you can use either
[06:12] <jeffmr> lstarnes, what is the difference?
[06:12] <perscitus> Why did karmic break crontab?
[06:12] <lstarnes> jeffmr: ext4 is newer
[06:12] <russianwizard> ext4 is a bit faster but restoring grub is a pain
[06:12] <Dallas1> Mcurran: actually I think I just found a work around at http://machicecaga.blogspot.com/2009/08/dell-mini-10-z520-gma-500-ubuntu-904.html
[06:12] <lstarnes> jeffmr: it also has some newer features
[06:12] <russianwizard> make youyr /boot partition ext3
[06:12] <jongbergs> kain: where do you want to mount it?
[06:12] <lstarnes> perscitus: what do you mean by that?
[06:12] <jeffmr> lstarnes, can you convert a filesystem?
[06:13] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  crontab doesnt execute commands.
[06:13] <lstarnes> jeffmr: I think so, but I'm not exactly sure how
[06:13] <kain> jongbergs: well i usually just double click and it mounts or right click on the disk and mount it
[06:13] <jongbergs> kain: /mnt? Desktop? home folder?
[06:14] <th3_irf4n> ttttyju
[06:14] <jongbergs> kain: mine is i used to mount my two ntfs partitions in Desktop
[06:14] <lstarnes> perscitus: I'm not sure if upstart would have anything to do with that
[06:14] <kain> jongbergs: hmmmm
[06:14] <muri_one> google's web based pdf display is so much faster than ubuntu's evince :-(
[06:14] <lstarnes> perscitus: if cron is running, crontab should be working
[06:14] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  what is upstart
[06:14] <kain> jongbergs: i want mine in /media/
[06:14] <lstarnes> perscitus: ubuntu's init system
[06:15] <russianwizard> Does anyone know of a good guide to get a bluetooth headset to work in ubuntu
[06:15] <lstarnes> perscitus: it has some cron-like features
[06:15] <Bigshot_> is there a way to find broadcom package driver from ubuntu live cd and install it w/o jocket-gtk doing it for me??
[06:15] <russianwizard> all the ones on the ubuntu site are depreciated
[06:15] <jongbergs> kain: then edit your /etc/fstab
[06:15] <jongbergs> kain: first we need to know the device name of your hd by sudo fdisk -l
[06:16] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  i just want crontab to open a m3u file at certain time
[06:16] <Bigshot_> is there a way to find broadcom package driver from ubuntu live cd and install it w/o jockey-gtk doing it for me??
[06:16] <kain> jongbergs: sdb1
[06:17] <lstarnes> perscitus: I'm not sure how to fix that issue.  Someone else here or elsewhere on the internet might know
[06:17] <jeffmr> Bigshot, you can download the source from the website and install it
[06:17] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  nothing in google is any help
[06:17] <Bigshot_> jeffmr id on't have interent
[06:17] <lstarnes> perscitus: I found a couple relevant results under ubuntu 9.10 crontab
[06:17] <Bigshot_> where do ubuntu store allt he packages? jeffmr?
[06:18] <jongbergs> kain: add this below the the fstab, /dev/sdb1 /media/mylinuxpartition  ext4   relatime     0    0
[06:18] <jeffmr> Bigshot, not sure maybe i386?
[06:18] <cody> exsit
[06:18] <cody> exit
[06:18] <cody> sorry woops
[06:18] <cody> lol
[06:18] <Bigshot_> i've installed it on my HDD so need to know which folder it is in
[06:18] <Bigshot_> jeffmr
[06:18] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  bad search
[06:19] <lstarnes> perscitus: what do you mean by that?
[06:19] <jeffmr> Bigshot, not sure do you know how to search folders on the cd?
[06:20] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  nothing useful
[06:21] <enig4> help me to set up office network
[06:22] <perscitus> Anyone know how to make crontab work under karmic? It doesnt work on default installs
[06:23] <perscitus> hello?
[06:24] <jeffmr> perscitus, did you check the ubuntu forums?
[06:25] <enig4> hi jeffmr can u help me
[06:25] <perscitus> jeffmr.->  no help
[06:25] <jeffmr> perscitus, google?
[06:25] <psvssg> hey guys  im new to ubuntu will anybody tell me how to register irc #ubuntu
[06:25] <perscitus> jeffmr.->  still no help
[06:25] <jeffmr> enig4, I can try but I haven't set up any network other than my own
[06:26] <lstarnes> !register > psvssg
[06:26] <faryshta> perscitus, crontab worked on Jaunty?
[06:26] <jeffmr> perscitus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[06:26] <perscitus> faryshta.->  perfectly.
[06:26] <jh2os_> hey
[06:27] <perscitus> jeffmr.->  The command works. it's not executing it
[06:27] <DexterLB> hi again
[06:27] <DexterLB> so, I can't open the new PC to insert the HDD into it, warranty forbids doing any enhansmets etc. So I have to migrate the entire /home with all .dot files into the new computer via network. Which is the best way of transferring files through network THAT KEEPS SYMLINKS AS THEY ARE, DOESN'T FOLLOW NOR CHANGE THEM
[06:27] <DexterLB> both PCs are ubuntu karmic
[06:27] <FloodBot3> DexterLB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <Bigshot_> does anyone know where the heck does jockey-gtk find the drivers from and install? in karmic
[06:28] <faryshta> perscitus, why don't you try editing the /etc/sources.list and change every karmic for jaunty
[06:28] <Bigshot_> braodcom drivers
[06:28] <Bigshot_> braodcom wl
[06:28] <jh2os_> eh
[06:28] <faryshta> then update, install crontab and get sources.list back to normal.
[06:28] <perscitus> faryshta.->  that has nothing to do with my problem
[06:28] <jeffmr> Bigshot, if you let me look at the cd on the computer now I can see if I can find them?
[06:29] <Bigshot_> jeffmr ok
[06:29] <perscitus> jeffmr.->  so?
[06:29] <jeffmr> perscitus, don't know
[06:29] <SeaPhor> DexterLB, i dont know of any pcs that still follow that old rule,, are you sure you cant open without warranty violation?
[06:29] <jeffmr> Bigshot_, private chat
[06:29] <perscitus> jeffmr.->  You telling me that crontab and karmic will remain broken?
[06:29] <faryshta> perscitus, why not? that way you can install crontab.
[06:30] <jeffmr> perscitus, I'm not a developer
[06:30] <DexterLB> i guess everyone is sleeping
[06:30] <perscitus> faryshta.->  welcome to ignore.
[06:30] <Starenki> where does karmic keep proxy setting instead of env?. i am running console only mode
[06:31] <perscitus> Anyone know how to make crontab work under karmic? It doesnt work on default installs
[06:31] <lstarnes> perscitus: putting people on ignore is likely going to cause you to revieve less help
[06:31] <ubuntu> my application is i want to run a small operating system in  machine when the machine startup my application should run
[06:31] <lstarnes> perscitus: is cron currently running?
[06:31] <SeaPhor> DexterLB, even if so,,, you can get a IDE/SATA to USB for under $20 and do any transfer you want
[06:31] <perscitus> lstarnes.-> i cant check that since there is no services app
[06:32] <lstarnes> perscitus: ps aux | grep cron
[06:33] <DexterLB> SeaPhor: why spend $20 when I can leave it overnight(s) and copy all files by network?
[06:33] <psvssg> when i use compiz my shift button dont work, any help
[06:33] <DexterLB> well if there really isn't a way to transfer lots of small files keeping symlinks I'll have to spend the $20 anyway
[06:33] <jh2os> hey
[06:34] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  crontab runs
[06:34] <SeaPhor> DexterLB, you said that you cant open your box,,, thats the point,,, yes, you can, and i do often,
[06:34] <lstarnes> perscitus: does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305226 look relevant?
[06:34] <DexterLB> SeaPhor: i also do often
[06:35] <DexterLB> SeaPhor: But I don't want to do it if warranty forbids it
[06:35] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  i didnt upgrade
[06:36] <SeaPhor> DexterLB, please say what box this is,, if there is still a mfg out there that uses that archaic warranty crap then we need to know
[06:37] <lstarnes> perscitus: I'm out of ideas, sorry
[06:37] <greezmunkey> DexterLB, what you have to ask yourself is, can you fix it if it breaks, if yes, then open it up.
[06:37] <DexterLB> SeaPhor: the box is NEO 2295 XPRESSION, idiotic bulgarian brand
[06:38] <DexterLB> greezmunkey: I can fix it if it breaks, sure!
[06:38] <greezmunkey> DexterLB, is that a laptop?
[06:38]  * SeaPhor agrees with greezmunkey
[06:38] <DexterLB> greezmunkey: nah, a tower
[06:38] <DexterLB> greezmunkey: the matter is purely ethical
[06:38] <greezmunkey> DexterLB, what tha...tear that bit3h open then!
[06:39] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  crontab is running
[06:39] <perscitus> lstarnes.->  but doesnt work
[06:40] <greezmunkey> DexterLB, do you need to transfer some files or something?
[06:40] <lodder> hi, could anybody help me my tv isn't detect using the detect screens from nvidia
[06:41] <perscitus> Anyone know how to make crontab work under karmic? It doesnt work on default installs
[06:42] <git__> anyone know what resier is doing?
[06:42] <SeaPhor> perscitus, what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:42] <perscitus> SeaPhor.->  trying to get crontab to execute anything
[06:43] <git__> crontab :P
[06:43] <SeaPhor> perscitus, no,,, what exactly? many things can be done other ways
[06:43] <greezmunkey> perscitus, man at
[06:44] <perscitus> SeaPhor.->  trying to get crontab to execute anything
[06:45] <perscitus> i told you exactly
[06:46] <perscitus> can anyone help me?
[06:46] <ardchoille> perscitus: I can try to help if you tell me what you are trying to accomplish?
[06:46] <jrib> perscitus: it would probably be easier to help if you were more specific.  What *exactly* did you try?  How did you try it?  How did you determine it didn't execute? etc.
[06:47] <SeaPhor> perscitus, i have crontab auto-starting scripts, i have other things such as auto-mounting partitiions being done by other things,,, plz explain,,, what are you wanting crontab to do?
[06:47] <perscitus> jrib.->  uh. edit crontab, add a command to execute at specific time. Then when time comes, it doesnt execute.
[06:47] <rashed2020> perscitus: My first guess is that your not calling the full path.
[06:47] <greezmunkey> perscitus, what command?
[06:47] <jrib> perscitus: "edit crontab" is vague.  "add a command to execute at specific time" is vague.
[06:47] <perscitus> I am calling full path
[06:48] <rashed2020> It would help if you showed us what you have
[06:48] <jrib> perscitus: just tell us exactly what you are doing.
[06:48] <ardchoille> perscitus: that can be caused by a number of things, the first thing I would try is to make sure the comand you entered is valid
[06:48] <artistxe> where can I example partition maps for booting multiple linux distros ?
[06:48] <greezmunkey> perscitus, what command? (again)
[06:48] <perscitus> the command itself execute in test run. Unforunately, crontab doesnt execute it
[06:48] <exodus_ms> perscitus, these guys are salavating dude, give them a bone :)
[06:48] <greezmunkey> hehe
[06:48] <ardchoille> perscitus: What comand are you trying?
[06:49] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  telling totem to open a m3u.
[06:49] <jrib> off to bed I guess...
[06:49] <ardchoille> perscitus: ok, you need to export the display first
[06:49] <jrib> perscitus: good luck
[06:49] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  did that
[06:49] <ardchoille> perscitus: in crontab?
[06:49] <perscitus> ardchoille.-> export Display=:0 && totem
[06:50] <jrib> perscitus: "DISPLAY", not "Display"
[06:50] <ardchoille> perscitus:  Display must be uppercase
[06:50] <rashed2020> artistxe: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/68939-help-building-mega-multi-boot-system.html
[06:50] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, what should happen if I run that in a terminal?
[06:51] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  doesnt make a difference
[06:51] <ardchoille> greezmunkey: in a terminal you won't need to export DISPLAY
[06:51] <ardchoille> perscitus: ok, what is the time you are using?
[06:51] <rashed2020> I think if you SSH in and run that, it would open up totem for the person sitting on the computer.
[06:51] <perscitus> Military time
[06:52] <ardchoille> perscitus: I mean the first five fields of the entry
[06:52] <ardchoille> ie, 01 04 1 1 1
[06:52] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm currently running eclipse on Ubuntu 9.1, and its not receiving mouse input.  Its only receiving keyboard input.  Can anyone help?
[06:53] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  i got it
[06:53] <ardchoille> perscitus: It's working now?
[06:53] <Dallas1> is there any way to boost output gain for a laptop
[06:53] <Dallas1> ?
[06:53] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  i skipped a part in crontab help. over looked it
[06:53] <enthdegree> hoy everyone!, how would I go to remap my {} keys to + and Backspace using xmodmap (or some other similar util?) Thanks! (
[06:53] <ardchoille> perscitus: See my crontab tutorial:  http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/04/crontab-tutorial.html
[06:54] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto GUI apps part
[06:54] <jongbergs> !ask | ardchoille
[06:54] <ardchoille> jongbergs: ?
[06:55] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm currently running eclipse on Ubuntu 9.1, and its not receiving mouse input.  Its only receiving keyboard input.  Can anyone help?
[06:55] <artistxe> SeanInSeattle, is it a usb wireless mouse ?
[06:55] <perscitus> jongbergs.->  he was helping me
[06:55] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, bookmarked that one, thanks :)
[06:55] <ardchoille> greezmunkey: yw
[06:55] <SeanInSeattle> artistxe:  Its a wireless mouse with a usb receiver.
[06:56] <jongbergs> ardchoille, perscitus : sorry it should be enthdegree
[06:56] <Monocian> Can 1gb usb work to install ubuntu?
[06:56] <artistxe> SeanInSeattle,  did you try booting without the mouse and then plugging it in ?
[06:56] <ardchoille> greezmunkey: be advised that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto has more info :)
[06:56] <ardchoille> jonathaN: ok, no problem :)
[06:56] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  is it possible to get crontab to execute every 15 minutes during an hour?
[06:56] <SeanInSeattle> artistxe:  I would've tried those types of things if it was a widespread issue.  But, other apps are receiving mouse input just fine.
[06:56] <ardchoille> perscitus: yes
[06:56] <jongbergs> Monocian: yes, more thatn enought it should
[06:56] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, bookmarked that one too, thanks!
[06:57] <ardchoille> perscitus: 00,15,30,45 * * * *
[06:57] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  how?
[06:57] <ardchoille> perscitus: This info is in my crontab tutorial :)
[06:57] <SeanInSeattle> artistxe:  Oh, also, I never boot with the mouse.  I plug it in after the OS and everything has booted correctly.
[06:58] <artistxe> SeanInSeattle, just one program ? strange
[06:58] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  so 0,15,45 4,5 is every 15 mins for hours 4 and 5?
[06:58] <SeanInSeattle> artistxe:  Do apps log issues with IO?
[06:58] <ardchoille> perscitus: 00,15,30,45
[06:58] <Flakeparadigm> What would I add to the Grub2 entry for OS X to make it boot in safe mode? I know the boot arguement is -x in OS X, but how do I pass that from grub?
[06:58] <ardchoille> perscitus: 00,15,30,45 04,05
[06:59] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  and 4,5 is for hour
[06:59] <ardchoille> perscitus: notice the space
[06:59] <ardchoille> perscitus: military time = 04,05
[06:59] <ardchoille> if afternoon then it would be 16,17
[06:59] <ardchoille> perscitus: The five required fields are: minute (0-59), hour (0-23, 0 = midnight), day (1-31), month (1-12), weekday (0-6, 0 = Sunday), command
[06:59] <Guest86770> quien d mexico?
[07:00] <artistxe> SeanInSeattle,  . . .  did you check your logs yet ???
[07:00] <ardchoille> !es | Guest86770
[07:00] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, one would think that crontab would be useful for practical jokes!
[07:00] <ardchoille> greezmunkey: lol
[07:00] <SeanInSeattle> artistxe:  How to check logs?   And... which logs to check?
[07:01] <artistxe> SeanInSeattle, the log files are located in /var/logs
[07:01] <greezmunkey> SeanInSeattle, what are you looking for?
[07:01] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  What if i want totem to restart?
[07:02] <SeanInSeattle> artistxe / greezmunkey:  Looking I/O problems in eclipse app to show up in logs.
[07:02] <ardchoille> perscitus: Hmm.. not sure about that one. I guess you could kill totem and restart it but there's probably a better way
[07:03] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  so 10,40,55 04,05 * * * killall totem ?
[07:03] <unwedged85> hi guys, is mac address blocking better than WPA/WEP keys in terms of security? Most paid wifi uses WPA/WEP, and I noticed that they don't change the password regularly.
[07:03] <greezmunkey> Network question, I have sshd running on the server, what do I have to do from here to opne a terminal on the remote machine? I get filesystem access only at this point.
[07:03] <git__> how come i think mplayer is better than totem?
[07:03] <ardchoille> perscitus: that should work
[07:03] <beowulf_> i second that git
[07:03] <SeanInSeattle> artistxe:  Which log should I be searching in?
[07:03] <git__> mac address is layer 2
[07:03] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  this is for my alarm clock. makes me get up and walk across the room
[07:04] <ardchoille> perscitus: There are gui apps that can be used as alarm clocks
[07:04] <unwedged85> git__, I'm thinking since with mac address blocking, I can connect and disconnect users at will
[07:04] <greezmunkey> perscitus, whoa dude, that's a pretty expensive alarm clock, PS (what if it crashes?)
[07:05] <git__> unwedged85, mac address can be virtualized
[07:05] <perscitus> greezmunkey.->  Linux crashes?
[07:05] <greezmunkey> perscitus, no wonder you didn't want anyone to know what you were up to :]
[07:05] <git__> each network adapter companies are assigned a Mac address space :)
[07:05] <git__> unwedged85, much like how arin assign ISP address space
[07:05] <artistxe> SeanInSeattle, if there are errors to be logged , I would assume they would be in an "eclipse" log ( although I do not use eclipse)
[07:05] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  and no. there isnt anything
[07:05] <ardchoille> perscitus: apt-cache policy alarm-clock
[07:06] <greezmunkey> perscitus, the power can go out. My alarm clock has a backup battery, and cost $8.00
[07:06] <josch_> hi
[07:06] <ardchoille> perscitus: er  apt-cache show alarm-clock
[07:06] <SeanInSeattle> What's the popular IDE for python?
[07:06] <LintRoller> hey
[07:06] <LintRoller> anyone who speak spanish?
[07:07] <ardchoille> !es | LintRoller
[07:07] <ardchoille> SeanInSeattle: the only one I've seen is Eric
[07:09] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  that wasnt in jaunty
[07:09] <ardchoille> perscitus: Indeed it is, I'm on Jaunty
[07:09] <Flakeparadigm> What would I add to the Grub2 entry for OS X to make it boot in safe mode? I know the boot arguement is -x in OS X, but how do I pass that from grub?
[07:10] <artistxe> SeanInSeattle, Stani's Python Editor
[07:10] <perscitus> crap nautilus crashed
[07:10] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, heh alarm-clock works, done...
[07:10] <ardchoille> Good idea to always search the repos
[07:11] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, no kidding, better than hand coding things...
[07:11] <ardchoille> indeed
[07:11] <ardchoille> I haven't had to compile anything in years
[07:13] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, yikes, I forgot I set the thing to go off, scared the piss out of me...(never turn your back on your computer!)
[07:13] <chd1> if I have a struct customer, and I want to declare a vector of customer is it vector<customer> cust(20)
[07:13] <migg137> hello, i just installed virtual box and am wondering if i can run windows in ubuntu, but the one that is already instaled on my hard drive on another partition
[07:14] <doushin> Are there further settings I need to modify in order to get headphone/mic jacks to work?  The laptop bench testing page says it works out of the box for my model HP (dv-1000) in breezy and dapper, though edgy final is apparently untested
[07:14] <knoppies> migg137, Ive never tried that, I would like to know. I like to think all things are possible, but I wouldnt know
[07:15] <greezmunkey> migg137, I am setting up an XP session in VB now. I've done some reading on that, and I guess it is possible, but pretty hairy.
[07:15] <greezmunkey> heh my VB XP session just finished.
[07:15] <hemant_> my problem is i want small linux os  where operating system boot up & my application should startup which linux os should i choose
[07:16] <perscitus> ardchoille.->  ill try alarm- clock too
[07:16] <thorsten11> hemant_:  try vector Linux
[07:16] <ardchoille> perscitus: sounds like it will be just what you need
[07:16] <ardchoille> thorsten11: Please don't do that. This is a Ubuntu support channel/
[07:16] <knoppies> hemant, Im crazy about ubuntu, so I will always recomend it, but I believe archlinux is designed to be minimilistic.
[07:16] <hemant_> vector linux can u explain me more about this
[07:17] <migg137> greezmunkey, so how do i set up just an otdinary windows on it... do i need like an xp iso or something
[07:17] <greezmunkey> migg137, I installed off of a CD
[07:17] <git__> i'm going bed
[07:17] <thorsten11> hemant_ its a lightweight distro
[07:18] <migg137> greezmunkey, well i dont have a cd so il have to try an iso, also will it run with al features or what are the things it wont do
[07:18] <bazhang> !ot | thorsten11 hemant_
[07:18] <hemant_> thanx i will read it
[07:19] <hemant_> can i customize ubuntu as per my taste
[07:19] <knoppies> hemant_, yes
[07:20] <bazhang> hemant_, install the minimal iso and add what you want
[07:20] <bazhang> !minimal | hemant_
[07:20] <greezmunkey> migg137, it runs as if it is on dedicated hardware as far as I can tell. I have a VB set up on this laptop, and run MS office within it just fine. One thing though, VB currently doesn't support GRE, so pptp vpn's are out of the question. I do have a way around it though ;)
[07:20] <knoppies> hemant_, I should upload a screen shot of my setup and show you, and then you look at the orginal you will see its very customizable.
[07:20] <thorsten11> hemant_: for a related product, try ubuntu netbook remix
[07:21] <sHaDoW> kann jemand deutsch?
[07:21] <migg137> greezmunkey,  im sorry but i dont know what GRE is im not that advanced yet lol
[07:21] <knoppies> hemant_, to see what sort of (useless but fun) things you can do on ubuntu, search "compiz" on youtube
[07:21] <ardchoille> !de | sHaDoW
[07:21] <hemant_> thanx a lot
[07:23] <Monocian> !vn
[07:23] <greezmunkey> migg137, np, you use that on XP to vpn back to your network at work mostly, VB won't do it yet, but they just released a new vresion, maybe it's in there now. (I donno)
[07:23] <switchgirl> Jeg er engelsk kan du hjelpe meg å tilbakestille hurtigbufferen for gnome-panel?
[07:23] <doushin> Does anyone know how to get the front headphones and mic to work on a dv-1000?
[07:24] <switchgirl> anyone wanna help with clearning the gnome cache?
[07:24] <ardchoille> switchgirl: gnome cache? You mean thumbnail cache?
[07:25] <switchgirl> no i mean the gnomepannel cache so it has one the bottom one the top
[07:25] <migg137> greezmunkey,  ok im going to download xp iso now since i run many things on windows and im tired of booting back and forth
[07:26] <Dallas1> switchgirl:can't you just move them back?
[07:26] <switchgirl> nope there jammed up
[07:26] <Dallas1> damn. it was an idea.
[07:26] <ardchoille> switchgirl: I don't quite understand what you're trying to do
[07:26] <greezmunkey> migg137, you go ahead on WYBS, but spend some quiet time with the docs to see if you can incorporate an already installed system. It would be good to know how to do!
[07:28] <helltraum> Anyone know how to get X11 forwarding working
[07:28] <helltraum> ?
[07:28] <ardchoille> Hellie: ssh -X
[07:28] <ardchoille> man ssh
[07:29] <switchgirl> rather than reinstall ardchoille i am trying to set one pannel at the top and one the bootom
[07:29] <ardchoille> note, that is an uppercase "X"
[07:29] <switchgirl> ardchoille: there are 6 pannels there atm
[07:29] <helltraum> I tried that ... didn't work
[07:29] <ardchoille> switchgirl: you should be able to right click a panel , choose properties and choose top, left, right, or bottom
[07:31] <migg137> greezmunkey,  yeah il look into that tomorrow if i have timen where i am it is 1:30 am and just got back from out of state so i  pretty tired
[07:31] <switchgirl> thats not happening
[07:31] <helltraum> I've set the DISPLAY variable on the remote host to my local machines IPADDRESS:0.0
[07:31] <greezmunkey_> migg137, I'm running this from the VB XP Session, hehe
[07:31] <helltraum> Anyone got any ideas please ?
[07:32] <greezmunkey_> migg137, Just installed xchat2 for windows...
[07:32] <greezmunkey_> heh, at least it works...
[07:32] <doushin> Ok, I have established that I have the connexant ac97 cx20468-31, where is a safe place and way to get these on ubuntu, I really appreciate it
[07:33] <sje46> I'm trying to get a terminal to stay on every workspace, but only if it's a specific profile, but I want it to skip taskbar
[07:33] <sje46> How do I do this?
[07:33] <ardchoille> sje46: you might look into using devilspie
[07:34] <ardchoille> !info devilspie
[07:34] <sje46> ardchoille, well, I did, but it was really irritating, and it works with compiz
[07:34] <migg137> greezmunkey, thats cool, so i cna run my softwarte just fine right like fl studio, sony vegas adn photoshop?
[07:34] <sje46> I'd prefer to try to do it with compiz instead, sicne I got that figured out
[07:35] <greezmunkey> migg137, no guarantees, you'll have to try it.
[07:36] <greezmunkey> migg137, remember you have to run VB as root (unfortunately)
[07:36] <sje46> well, okay, Ill try it with devilspie, but I have a specific problem with that
[07:36] <sje46> I don't know how to end devilspie
[07:37] <greezmunkey> migg137, uh...I think I'll take that back, there was a reason for doing so, but it seems to work anyway on this updated install...
[07:37] <jongbergs> !uuid
[07:37] <baltadt> what is the best program to burn ubuntu install cd's
[07:38] <jongbergs> baltadt: brasero works fine
[07:38] <baltadt> ty
[07:38] <migg137> greezmunkey, ok so it should be fine i just downloaded today
[07:39] <greezmunkey> migg137, yea, I would think so. I installed onto this server from an aptoncd that I burned off of this laptop. I'll update it later...
[07:39] <geev> hallow i need your assistance i get this error "W: GPG error: http://www.bashterritory.com  Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" when i execute sudo apt-get update any ideal
[07:40] <migg137> greezmunkey, thats cool man i still have alot to learn, i just recently got ubuntu this yea and i love it
[07:40] <bazhang> geev, could we look at your sources.list
[07:41] <bazhang> geev, cat /etc/apt/sources.list  --> paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[07:41] <greezmunkey> migg137, well later, see ya in here.
[07:41] <sje46> when you right click on an item in your task bar or dock, you can choose to have it show on the visible workspace
[07:42] <sje46> how do I do this if its not on the tastk bar or dock?
[07:42] <knoppies> Is there a utility that can tell me where data is being sent/received(LAN)? (or at least what program is sending/receiving it). I have a constant down of 20-50kb/s and an UP of 2-40kb/s and Im not sure what it is.
[07:43] <geev> bazhang: here is the source list http://paste.ubuntu.com/324179/
[07:43] <knoppies> sje46, <alt>right-click on the window.
[07:43] <greezmunkey> knoppies, tcpdump, or wireshark
[07:43] <knoppies> greezmunkey, thanks, I will have a look.
[07:44] <greezmunkey> knoppies, I think you'll have to apt-get tcpdump, bet its worth it.
[07:44] <greezmunkey> s/bet/but
[07:44] <jongbergs> knoppies: wireshark might help you
[07:45] <knoppies> thanks jongbergs
[07:45] <hemant__> how will i customize ubuntu
[07:45] <bazhang> geev, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and place a # in front of the bashterritory entry, save, then try sudo apt-get update again
[07:45] <Guest14310> now i use backtrack
[07:45] <bazhang> hemant__, up to you.
[07:45] <knoppies> hemant__, you open up 'synaptic package manager'
[07:45] <hemant__> ok
[07:45] <knoppies> hemant__, then seach for 'compiz settings'
[07:46] <Guest14310> yups
[07:46] <knoppies> hemant__, Install that, then use that to customize ubuntu. You should also look at system-> preferences-> appearance too
[07:46] <jongbergs> knoppies: also bmon is a very lightweight bandwidth monitor
[07:46] <Desen> folks, need help on this one (free virtual beers for those who help :P) -- i accidently formatted a NTFS partition (/fast) with 126 GB of pictures, work projects and personal stuff. is there any possibility to recover these files ?
[07:46] <knoppies> jongbergs, ah, thanks. will have a look at that too.
[07:47] <bazhang> Desen, what do you mean fast? using which OS to do this /fast ?
[07:47] <sje46> knoppies:  thanks!
[07:48] <knoppies> sje46, anytime. Glad it worked.
[07:48] <Desen> ermbazhang: . Windoza. XP. it was a dual boot and needed to reinstall the partition with WIN on it, cuz of course, it failed me. (i know how to re-enable the GRUB afters)
[07:48] <hemant__> i am not talking about appearance i want lightweight ubuntu with no menus at all
[07:48] <Desen> bazhang: . Windoza. XP. it was a dual boot and needed to reinstall the partition with WIN on it, cuz of course, it failed me. (i know how to re-enable the GRUB afters)
[07:49] <knoppies> hemant__, oh, sorry. Then dont listen to me.
[07:49] <greezmunkey> jongbergs, is bmon a gui, or terminal app?
[07:49] <vega-> Desen: this channel is not exactly for windows support..
[07:49] <knoppies> greezmunkey, Im about to find out.
[07:49] <Desen> vega- i had dual boot: Ubuntu / Windows
[07:49] <bazhang> Desen, using XP to delete? you should try in ##windows as this channel is for Ubuntu support
[07:49] <greezmunkey> knoppies, cool.
[07:49] <ardchoille> greezmunkey:  bmon is a commandline bandwidth monitor
[07:49] <virtus> hemant__ : then remove the panels, and install gnome-do :)
[07:50] <ardchoille> greezmunkey: apt-cache show bmon ;)
[07:50] <hemant__> can u explain me once more
[07:50] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, sounds like a nice tool, I'll check it out, thanks all :)
[07:50] <virtus> hemant__ : add a start menu launcher on desktop, as a backup, to use it, when you need ;)
[07:50] <vega-> Desen: i don't see how that is related.. anyway the answer to your question doesn't relate to ubuntu in any way
[07:50] <Desen> bazhang, vega- i was wondering if there's any tool i could use from the open source community, since ##windows has failed me in helping with my problem
[07:50] <bazhang> Desen, not in this situation no
[07:51] <virtus> hemant__: Right click all the panels, and remove them , then install gnome-do , { you can do most of the things with gnome-do i.e start applications etc. }
[07:51] <vega-> Desen: as the partition is ntfs, sounds a little far fetched ..
[07:51] <geev> bazhang: thank now it is downloading the updates but can you please tell what is the effect of that changes i made
[07:51] <greezmunkey> ardchoille, sweet!
[07:51] <Desen> hmmm. ok. thanx vega-, bazhang
[07:53] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, if i install wine can i use programs that i already installed in winXP in ubuntu?
[07:53] <jongbergs> greezmunkey: terminal
[07:53] <Boohbah> isolat3dsh33p: no
[07:54] <isolat3dsh33p> Boohbah, kthanx
[07:54] <carck3r> Hello
[07:54] <alabd> good day everyone , how to solve this problem ? http://up.iranblog.ir/3/1258817648.png
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  give a small summary of the problem - dont expect everyone to go to a URL just to see the acctual problem.
[07:55] <spartan07> anyone know how to do ASCII symbols on gedit
[07:55] <greezmunkey> jongbergs> ardchoille, running it now with a youtube video running as a test, I like...
[07:55] <freaky[t]> how can i make the desktop panels look nice in gnome?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> freaky[t]:  clarify what you mean.
[07:56] <knoppies> freaky[t], right-click properties.
[07:56] <knoppies> freaky[t], or you could use a dock like cairo-dock or AWN
[07:56] <freaky[t]> Dr_Willis, for example in xfce the panels look nice ... i mean ... where can I get nice working backgrounds or whatever?
[07:56] <dave456> saluton
[07:57] <dave456> kiel vi fartas?
[07:57] <bazhang> dave456, english here
[07:57] <freaky[t]> knoppies, ill have a look at cairo-dock didnt test it yet
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> freaky[t]:  you can set panel backgrounds if you want. I hate backgrounds on my panels
[07:57] <dave456> mi ne komprenas
[07:57] <alabd> Dr_Willis: that error happens while there is try to call via that java applet on ff
[07:57] <knoppies> freaky[t], just make sure you download and install cairo-dock2.0 not the 1.? that is in the repositories.
[07:57] <freaky[t]> knoppies, 2.0.9 is in repos
[07:57] <dave456> what's up with ubuntu 9.10
[07:57] <hemant__> how will i change with gnome do
[07:58] <dave456> it like changed everything
[07:58] <knoppies> freaky[t], oh, my bad.
[07:58] <freaky[t]> knoppies, hehe np ;D now u know ^^
[07:58] <bazhang> dave456, did you have a support question or just wish to chat
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> dave456:  its a transition release - they updated a lotof things to get ready for the next LTS release.
[07:58] <virtus> freaky[t]: increase the panel size, make them a bit more transparent, this thing is something you would have to play with, just right click the panel and dive in its  properties. :)
[07:58] <dave456> is this LTS 9.10?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[07:58] <bazhang> dave456, no
[07:58] <dave456> the add and remove interface has channed
[07:59] <freaky[t]> virtuald, hm ok thanks ... testing cairo-dock atm will have a cloder look at properties later
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> dave456: so? its changed.