[01:49] <Unit193> skellat, jrgifford: pokepoke.  On?
[01:51] <Unit193> Know what talks for OLF yet?  Any feedback?
[01:55] <cyberanger> talks?
[01:55] <Unit193> Yep, UbuCon talks.  Other than jcastro's.
[02:00] <Unit193> OLF people would like the list of 'em before free registration opens.
[02:05] <cyberanger> when is that deadline?
[02:06]  * cyberanger just found out he has OLF off, offically (aside from a engineering pain) and needs to fill out that paperwork now
[02:07] <Unit193> Not sure if they're opening registration for all at the same time, but 8/11 is one of them.
[02:09] <Unit193> Believe they're trying to get all at the same time.
[02:10] <cyberanger> when would you want CFP's in for BoF?
[02:10] <cyberanger> sorry, UbuCon talks (I've done one BoF, badly
[02:11] <cyberanger> very badly, well, decent for a (at the time) 19yro geek)
[02:14] <Unit193> Not sure, but it'd be great to get them the list of talks by the 11th.  skellat should know more generally.
[02:21] <cyberanger> olf wanted them by  7/24/14 for main talks, guess ubucon is a little later
[03:03] <skellat> Unit193: I've gotten nothing from anyone about anything.  I'm totally in the dark.
[03:03] <Unit193> Well crap.
[03:04] <skellat> Work doesn't even return my calls or e-mails right now
[03:05] <skellat> So, it sounds like I am officially working the phones tomorrow to see what I can do ten
[03:05] <skellat> s/ten/then/
[03:05] <jenni> skellat meant to say: So, it sounds like I am officially working the phones tomorrow to see what I can do then
[03:06] <Unit193> :/
[03:06] <skellat> Unit193: Has belkinsa said a word about contacts with anybody?
[03:06] <Unit193> Not that I know of.
[03:07] <skellat> I have to drive my sister to physical therapy tomorrow so I'll start making some phone calls to see what I can do to make some last minute line ups
[03:13] <skellat> I'll try to call Jeff Hanson at P:CC and Emma Marshall (my counterpart for Colorado) at System76
[03:17] <skellat> :-(
[03:18] <Unit193> Might be a good idea to be the last Ubucon then.  Talk to cyberanger about scheduleing a topic/talk?
[03:30] <cyberanger> idk about last ubucon, but perhaps we need to only do a half day or space up ubucon some, allow for general Q&A at the end of UbuCon, something
[03:34] <skellat> cyberanger: If interested in speaking, please write up a proposal for a 30-45 minute presentation to allow time for Q&A, log in to Launchpad, and hit up the semi-dormant https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-ohio-council/+contactuser to ensure the 4 of us get copies to review and think about.
[03:34] <jenni> [ Ubuntu Ohio Council in Launchpad ] - https://j.mp/UVC7ux
[03:35]  * Unit193 already +1s it, just because it has to be good if from you.
[03:37] <PCLine_> What is Ubicon ?
[03:38] <Unit193> PCLine_: It's a group of sessions held at the Ohio Linux Fest.
[03:38] <skellat> Focused on *buntu
[03:38] <Unit193> Right.
[03:39] <PCLine_> Thanks.
[03:43]  * skellat gets distracted by "Last Ship"
[03:43] <Unit193> Not a bad show.
[03:49] <PCLine_> Check out the wed site.
[03:49] <PCLine_> opps... Checking out the web site
[12:58] <belkinsa> skellat, I heard nothing.
[22:38]  * skellat just watched the film "Lucy" and is very pleased with it.
[22:41] <belkinsa> skellat, I guess we failed at getting speakers for OLF 2014?
[22:42] <skellat> belkinsa: I was on the phone with Emma Marshall this morning seeing if she could come out
[22:42] <belkinsa> Did she say anything?
[22:42] <skellat> System76 won't back a trip but I told her to think about coming solely as Colorado Leader and try to tap into Canonical's community budget
[22:43] <skellat> I was talking on the phone to Michael Sauers to see if I could get him to come out and speak too
[22:43] <belkinsa> I see.
[22:43] <skellat> Called Jeff Hanson at P:CC up in Wisconsin and left him two voicemails
[22:44] <skellat> I'll call the public relations office over at NASA Glenn tomorrow morning to see if I can get somebody from the lab since they do telecomms & flight computers there...including putting stuff like Debian on the ISS
[22:44]  * skellat has to go walk his very insistent dog & will be back in a few minutes
[22:45] <belkinsa> Have fun.
[22:54] <skellat> belkinsa: So, what else are your views on the UbuCon Caper?


[01:17] <jram0421> hi i need a bug marked as triaged i am part of the ubuntu bug squad
[01:17] <jram0421> the link to the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1156362
[01:17] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1156362 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Impossible d'installer « xubuntu-desktop »" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[01:19] <jram0421> Can someone mark the bug
[01:21]  * TheLordOfTime looks
[01:22] <TheLordOfTime> jram0421:  why do you think it should be triaged?  *is curious*
[01:23] <jram0421> i have been able to recreate the bug
[01:25] <TimeLord|PHONE> Bleh stupid Internet...
[01:26] <TimeLord|PHONE> jram0421: missed your response, my Internet failed and timed out.  :/
[01:27] <TimeLord|PHONE> okay then
[10:04] <u-k-i-t> Hmm... Sent two email to the 'ubuntu-bugsquad' list this morning and instantly got back with same subject line as I sent to list with and email from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/ return address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>about the company - Email all images. Anybody?
[13:08] <hggdh> u-k-i-t: huh?
[13:09] <hggdh> u-k-i-t: I see only 4 emails today-ish on the bugsquad ML; except for one, I know the nicks of the people involved.
[15:09] <TheLordOfTime> u-k-i-t:  oh that piece of crap...
[15:09] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  i saw that a couple lweeks ago, i wanted to get in contact with an ML admin, the people behind the scenes
[15:09] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  i *think* there's a listener on the ML that autosubscribes you to them when you have a message sent on the ML
[15:10] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  any idea who's sysadmin for the mailing lists?
[15:10] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray:  ^ same question if you know
[15:11] <dnivra> Hello everyone! Could someone create the tasks required to backport Intel/AMD OpenCL support in Precise? Please see comments #24 to #31 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/763457/ for more.
[15:11] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 763457 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "please provide opencl-icd virtual package" [Medium,Confirmed]
[15:14] <dnivra> Currently, python-pyopencl can't be used in Precise(on machines with no nVidia cards) since the Intel/AMD ICDs aren't available. Also, the installation will break few graphical components - KDE desktop effects do not work for me.
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> u-k-i-t:  hggdh: ping
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> if you two are around
[18:10] <TheLordOfTime> u-k-i-t:  hggdh:  this is a confirmed issue - the advertisements are send directly to responders on the mailing list, I've emailed into<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to get someone to take a look and see if they can find any offending addresses that are receiving messages from the list.
[18:11] <TheLordOfTime> u-k-i-t:  hggdh:  I myself have gotten two such messages, but they all go to spam now.
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  and the messages u-k-i-t is talking about never  show up in the mailing list, it's a direct send to the individual who sent the initial message and/or response.
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> not a CC to the bugsquad list
[18:18] <TheLordOfTime> so hopefully someone on IS will take a peek
[18:18] <TheLordOfTime> or whoever has ML godadmin
[18:22] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: no, there is no auto subscription. We (the ML admins) have to approve any email from non-subswcribers
[18:22] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  that's not what i said
[18:22] <hggdh> u-k-i-t: please send me a one such email -- full, including headers
[18:22] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  what I SAID was the person is already listening on the ML
[18:22] <hggdh> u-k-i-t: hggdh2 at ubuntu dot com
[18:22] <TheLordOfTime> and automatically sending everything back to the SENDER of the initial message
[18:22] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  i've got two old ones i can send you
[18:23] <TheLordOfTime> they're in my spam folder
[18:23] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: please do
[18:23] <TheLordOfTime> but note ticket 22843 on rt, i emailed them because i'm concerned it's not just bugsquad's ML being affected
[18:24] <hggdh> then I can check and, if necessary, kick the offending subscriber
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  it may be from my trekweb.org account
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> because i might've forgotten to set it to send from my @ubuntu.com
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> see the notice i sent you
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  note those are two headers, but we have *no* information on who on the ML is actually the source
[18:26] <TheLordOfTime> since the responses NEVER hit the ML
[18:27] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime, u-k-i-t: I just sent an email to the ML about that.
[18:28] <hggdh> but I still would like to see some such emails
[18:28] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  i sent two to you i think
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> with the headers (but i plain-text'd the content so you'll have to convert it to HTML to make it view, maybe)
[18:30] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime:all my emails are seen as pure text :-)
[18:30] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  you may also want to poke IS and give the results of your investigation to the ticket that got generated if you find the culprit so they can be removed on other ML.
[18:30] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  oh good :p
[18:30] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  NOTE that the email is all images
[18:31] <TheLordOfTime> very very little text
[18:31] <TheLordOfTime> which adds to the spamminess factor
[18:31] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: I also received one just now (as a consequence of my email?). I will look at it, and at yours and others, and try to find out a common source
[18:32] <hggdh> (the one I received was immediately tagged as spam)
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  I'd say blacklist<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but... i tend to overkill when I blacklist things on my spam
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  yeah my spam filters did that too, i kept the offending messages around because reasons
[18:32] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: could be. But the one I received has a different sender
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  mind sharing headers with myself?
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> s/myself/me/
[18:33]  * TheLordOfTime wants to see if there's *any* similarities
[18:33] <penguin42> always from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:33] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42:  on mine the two were from them
[18:34] <TheLordOfTime> but idk if it's from multiple separate senders, i know the common denominator is the domain
[18:34] <hggdh> I have to get AFK for a while, but I will read the backlog
[18:34] <penguin42> hggdh: Just sent you mine
[18:35] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh:  that looks like a different spam, but if I"m getting that it's getting stuck in my blacklists and autopurged
[18:35] <TheLordOfTime> the eukor stuff got through though
[18:35]  * TheLordOfTime shrugs
[18:37] <TheLordOfTime> well, off to play L4D2 on *cough*windows*cough*
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> zombie killin time
[21:24] <hggdh> penguin42: thank you
[21:30] <hggdh> heh. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/haskell-cafe/Xki9VkFpAgo/Cps40CjURFsJ
[21:41] <hggdh> penguin42, TheLordOfTime, u-k-i-t: I have the jp at eukor dot com as a member. I will remove him until I have sufficient proof this user has resolved this crappy spam protection issue
[21:48] <hggdh> also, I have BCC-ed you on the email I sent the user
[21:52] <hggdh> heh. Bounced. Forwarded to mmp at eukor dot com, in the (vain) hope it will reach a person, not a stupid program
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, oh good, so this is handled.
[21:54] <hggdh> I will try to remember to check the subscription messages for users from eukor.com, and if they happen again, I will block the domain from subscribing.
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> well, kinda :P\
[21:54] <hggdh> yeah
[21:55] <u-k-i-t> hggdh: Thanks. Yes just got the bbc'ed email.
[21:55] <hggdh> the forwarded email also bounced :-(
[21:55] <TheLordOfTime> i got it on my phone since i was zombie killing in L4D2
[21:55] <hggdh> heh
[21:55] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, IMO, blacklist the domain
[21:55] <TheLordOfTime> but that's my opinion
[21:56] <hggdh> yea, thought about that, but it is a rather strict measure.  Go figure them.
[21:57] <TheLordOfTime> eheh
[21:57] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, and therein lies the flaw of humanity
[21:59] <penguin42> hggdh: I wonder if it's actually him or a spammer that just uses the last address sent to the list
[21:59] <hggdh> so goes humanity. The axiom of the conservation of inteligence (the world population increases, but the summ of inteligence is the same)
[21:59] <hggdh> penguin42: I considered that also, but the email I sent was directed to the address on record.
[22:01] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, you cc'd the sysadmins rigiht?
[22:01] <TheLordOfTime> (for the ML system)
[22:01] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: I cc-ed the ML admins (for bugsquad only)
[22:02] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, ah okay.
[22:02] <hggdh> not the sysadmins
[22:02]  * hggdh received an email from self, decides not to work on it
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> lol


[12:22] <guysoft42> hey all, I am the creator of CustomPiOS, which lets you build custom distros using a base image. I can see the raspberrypi image of ubuntu is creating the ubuntu user and password on boot, with the password expried. And I want to change that. However, I get: chage: user 'ubuntu' does not exist in /etc/passwd . How do I find someone who knows how this works and how to edit settings for the ubuntu user before creation? I am running this by chrooting
[12:22] <guysoft42> to the image and editing it with scripts.
[12:23] <guysoft42> The reason I want to do that is that there is a systemd service that is not starting unless you log in
[12:43] <guysoft42> Is there anybody here? I am not sure who to ask about this kind of stuff. It seems not to fall in to a bug, and its not a general question. its a dev thing