[00:21] <nokT> newbie question: I copied some files (drag&dropped through visual file manager) from one drive to another, each from different systems.
[00:21] <nokT> browsing these files from an ordinary user account, I see some files restricted while I can read most of them... when was this permission set? How do I remove the read limit to every ordinary user? Can this be done recursively to a whole directory?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> nokT: ' sudo chown -R <user_name>:<user_name> <Path_of_Directory> ' . chown changes the owner of the directory and chmod allows you to change the permissions of the file or directory
[00:26] <Bashing-om> chown can change the file owner and/or the file group owner depending on the first argument of the command
[00:27] <Bashing-om> nokT: See: ' man chown ; man chmod ' .
[00:29] <Guest18616> hi guys
[00:30] <OerHeks> nokT, what filesystem may be important
[00:30] <Guest18616> im having a little problem with this hangman script im writing , was hoping someone could help me
[00:30] <Guest18616> first time on the chat, so im sorry for being a noob
[00:30] <Guest18616> until [ "empty_array[@]" == "secret_array[@]" ]  do           echo ${empty_array[@]}          echo -n ">"         read selection                   for ((j=0;j < "${#secret_array[*]}";j++)); do                  if       [ "$selection" == "${secret_array[j]}" ]                 then                         empty_array[j]="${secret_array[j]}"                  fi                 done done exit 0
[00:31] <Guest18616> when the program finds the correct word, in this example "france" it doesnt quit, even though i saw until they are equal
[00:31] <nokT> OerHeks, it's ext4
[00:31] <OerHeks> maybe #bash is a better place for scripting, this is ubuntu support.
[00:31] <Guest18616> oh ok thanks
[00:32] <nokT> btw, I had a dir owned by root, while logged as an ordinary user, I had r-x permissions for that dir... even though the w was not set, I was able to delete the dir which wasn't owned by me, why is that?
[00:33] <spase> good evening, i just reinstalled 16.04 and this weird bug keeps appearing, namely, almost all newly installed apps don't appear in the dash so i need to run them from terminal
[00:33] <spase> someone experiencing the same issue?
[00:48] <richard> nick snowrichard
[00:54] <pennTeller> Hi guys, anybody know why you cant resize windows after "snapping" them in Ubuntu Gnome?
[00:56] <goddard> pennTeller: Gnome developers do a lot of crazy things.  You would have to ask them.
[00:57] <pennTeller> goddard: so this is an intended behavior?
[01:04] <danny_> Us this a help room?
[01:04] <bazhang> ubuntu support yes danny_
[01:05] <danny_> ok, I'm very confused about windows managers
[01:05] <danny_> I want to switch to compton because I heard it can help with screen tearing on nvidia drivers
[01:05] <danny_> But I dunno how to switch
[01:06] <bazhang> !info compton
[01:07] <danny_> I downloaded wmctrl to check what wm I have active and even if I run compton it still shows metacity(marco) instead of compton
[01:07] <danny_> An I'm afraid weird things will happen If I try to run comton while having another wm active
[01:08] <bazhang> danny_, perhaos you mean compositor
[01:08] <bazhang> nautilus is the window manager
[01:08] <goddard> pennTeller: probably
[01:09] <danny_> I thought nautilus was the file explorer
[01:09] <goddard> pennTeller: i use kde/plasma so you would have to ask the gnome guys themselves or some one using the same version of gnome shell as you
[01:09] <pennTeller> goddard: yeah im asking in the gnome channel but nobody has answered yed, thank you
[01:10] <goddard> maybe try just ##linux
[01:10] <danny_> @bazhang I might mean compositor then, I don't really know so how do I check what compositor I have enabled?
[01:11] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468 danny_
[01:11] <bazhang> read that link danny_
[01:13] <danny_> bazhang Thats what I followed to get to this point
[01:13] <nomic> nautilus = file manager
[01:14] <danny_> it improved screen tearing but didn't remove it, So I want to make sure I'm not layering compositors bazhang
[01:15] <bazhang> no idea past that link, sorry danny_
[01:15]  * nomic always installs nautilus
[01:15] <nomic> uses nautilus as file manager
[01:16] <danny_> thats fine, its gotta be possible to find out what compositor is running though
[01:17] <Ravness> Question, Has Ubuntu always been your distro? have you guys tried others??
[01:17] <danny_> nomic I'm probably gonna download nautilus, or Nemo.  Caja that came with ubuntu mate is straight garbage
[01:18] <bazhang> Ravness, #ubuntu-offtopic for polling, NOT here
[01:18] <danny_> Ravness, me?  I just started using ubuntu mate like a week ago so its about all I've used
[01:19] <danny_> I'm gonna switch back to windows pretty soon though
[01:19] <Ravness> may i ask why?
[01:19] <Ravness> I dual booted ubuntu and win 10
[01:20] <bazhang> !ot | Ravness
[01:20] <danny_> Windows 10 beats linux in compatibility which is kinda the only point of an operating system
[01:20] <Ravness> !register
[01:20] <bazhang> danny_, and Ravness please take the chit chat elsewhere
[01:21] <Ravness> ah :/
[01:22] <JacobKlear> It is worth it to change a hdd by a ssd drive? Can I ask this here?
[01:23] <bazhang> JacobKlear, why not ##hardware
[01:23] <JacobKlear> thanks bazhang
[01:24] <bazhang> welcome
[01:24] <danny_> Next question, what is the difference between a compositor and windows manager?  And which is Metacity(marco)?
[01:25] <bazhang> danny_, why are you adding marco to that
[01:25] <bazhang> danny_, is this MINT
[01:25] <danny_> I don't know they always seem to be together whenever I google it and wmctrl -m returns Metacity (marco)
[01:25] <danny_> I'm using ubuntu mate
[01:26] <bazhang> !info metacity
[01:26] <Metacity> Or me.
[01:27] <danny_> bazhang, I just looked it up, marco is a fork of metacity
[01:27] <danny_> Metacity do you know anything about your namesake?
[01:28] <JacobKlear> bazhang: Hey man, I can't "send" to hardware... what do i need to do?
[01:29] <bazhang> JacobKlear, could be need to register, try #freenode for help doing that
[01:29] <JacobKlear> thanks again bazhang
[01:30] <danny_> Would it be a bad Idea to kill Metacity(marco)?
[01:30] <Metacity> Yes, it would be really bad to kill me!
[01:30] <Metacity> :P
[01:30] <danny_> Metacity I may have to, I want to watch youtube without screentearing
[01:31]  * Metacity goes to find a broadsword.
[01:31] <JacobKlear> How can I upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04?
[01:32] <JacobKlear> without starting from scratch
[01:32] <danny_> And what will happen if I kill Metacity? will I go to a blackscreen with a terminal?
[01:33] <Metacity> You will lose your window decorations (title bars, etc.).
[01:34] <eggggs> JacobKlear , you have ati vid card ?
[01:34] <danny_> I'm having a hard time understanding this, so Mate is a desktop environment which runs Metacity(Marco) right?
[01:34] <Metacity> Correct.
[01:34] <bazhang> danny_, is this a one time watch of a youtube vid or repeated watches
[01:34] <JacobKlear> eggggs: No I don't have one of those... I have an intel processor that runs graphics too...
[01:35] <danny_> bazhang, its everything tearing when scrolling down in webbrowsers, moving windows, switching workspaces
[01:35] <eggggs> good, ati no bueno for  16.04
[01:35] <danny_> bazhang straight diagonal from top right to bottom left
[01:35] <bazhang> danny_, whats the video card, and what driver, how did you install the driver for it
[01:36] <dax> ati (although it's called amd this decade) works fine in 16.04. it's fglrx that doesn't.
[01:36] <dax> though fglrx has always been crap so
[01:36] <JacobKlear> eggggs: But i did apt upgrade and it doesnt do the trick
[01:37] <bazhang> danny_, are you trying to use the propietary fglrx with that, is it an amd card
[01:37] <danny_> bazhang, its the proprietary driver from Nvidia: 361.42 from nvidia-361
[01:37] <danny_> I also have an internal intel graphics card I believe
[01:37] <bazhang> danny_, whats the card make and model
[01:37] <dax> JacobKlear: 16.04 isn't offered to 14.04 users until 16.04.1 comes out. Use sudo do-release-upgrade -d if you don't want to wait that long.
[01:37] <danny_> Quadro 1000M
[01:38] <bazhang> danny_, have you run the simple test of downloading a youtube video and trying to run it with vlc, smplayer or the like
[01:39] <danny_> bazhang, I have not, I'll try that
[01:39] <JacobKlear> dax: thanks a lot :-*
[01:41] <asap> Hello How do I link my wireless information that I obtained from Chili555's wifi info code?
[01:42] <danny_> bazhang, still screen tearing
[01:45] <JacobKlear> Guys, do you know how can I reduce the brightness from terminal?
[01:49] <JacobKlear> sorry, it's already on askubuntu
[01:49] <asap> I am trying to get this Broadcom BCM 4318 [AirForce One 54g] wireless LAN controller to work, I have the output from the code in this thread ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214110 that I would like to share with someone in hopes of recieving assistance in fixing this issue . Thank You All.
[01:52] <asap> Oh sorry I am using a fresh install of 16.04
[01:56] <danny_> bazhang, I'm gonna kill Marco, wish me luck
[01:57] <danny_> OH GOD
[01:58] <danny_> this is bad
[01:59] <danny_> ls
[01:59] <danny_> How do I get to a terminal without a window manager?
[01:59] <danny_> I should not have killed marco
[02:00] <JacoBKL> danny_: CTRL+T
[02:00] <danny_> well, I have terminals open, I jsut cant click on them to focus them
[02:00] <danny_> luckily this window is on top
[02:01] <rocketeer> So I'm trying to get python to interface with sound in ubuntu with the instructions found here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6487180/synthesize-musical-notes-with-piano-sounds-in-python
[02:01] <JacoBKL> ;)
[02:01] <danny_> I'm probably just gonna restart it
[02:02] <rocketeer> But it doesn't work and doesn't give me usefull errors. Furthermore, running "fluidsynth -a alsa /usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2 example.mid" does properly play example.mid, so I have the right .sfw
[02:02] <rocketeer> .sf2* sorry
[02:03] <rocketeer> But running "fluidsynth.init('/usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2', "alsa") fluidsynth.play_Note(64,1,100)" in python silently fails
[02:08] <danny_> Ok, I guess I'll just live with screen tearing
[02:08] <danny_> I learned not to kill marco
[02:10] <gti> ola galera
[02:15] <JacoBKL> danny_: that's a good lesson
[02:17] <danny_> JacoBKL he was asking for it, I learned compton cannot replace him though
[02:17] <danny_> windows manager != compositor
[02:20] <danny_> Oh, I figured it out
[02:20] <danny_> for anybody who wants to know
[02:21] <danny_> In mate_tweak You can easily change to compton
[02:21] <danny_> its a simple menu item
[02:22] <danny_> still some screen tearing but way better
[02:23] <JacoBKL> awesome!
[02:52] <WhiteNight> Hi, is this Channel (or IRC) blocked/banned from certain IPs? I was on a Private VPN and it just wouldn't connect (or shall I move my question to offtopic?)
[02:54] <dax> WhiteNight: freenode and #ubuntu both block various providers due to abuse. #ubuntu-ops or #freenode should be able to figure out details (the latter requires waiting for voice)
[02:54] <user> Hi , Why this process "mysqld" running on my ubuntu 16.04 ? it is consuming the memory.
[02:54] <user> 848864 K of the memory
[02:54] <WhiteNight> dax, thank you sir!
[03:14] <lnb> after ubuntu 14.04 update with kernel update, reboot system. After post, screen says to put in bootable disk.
[03:14] <lnb> boot to bios, shows 2 drives
[03:18] <cncr04s> did you update-grub ?
[03:19] <cncr04s> if the bios says to insert a bootable disk it means there is no os on it, so something got screwed up
[03:21] <lnb> cncr04s: no
[03:21] <lnb> cncr04s: update grub, no. Ubuntu ran the update like normal, and then rebooted. Then came blank screen
[03:23] <lnb> i had originally install ubuntu 14.04 server, then added desktop. About year.5 ago. System has 2 drive raid 1
[03:28] <shinobu_> hgf
[03:34] <silver-dragon> does any one know if there is a way to create a storage space that spans multiple disks in ubuntu. With redundancy. A software raid like Windows Storage Spaces.
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> !zfs | silver-dragon
[03:36] <silver-dragon> I know about zfs but I was wanting something a little more scalable and user friendly. ZFS has the same sort of limitations on scaling as hardware raid.
[03:36] <SchrodingersScat> !info glusterfs | silver-dragon
[03:37] <SchrodingersScat> !info glusterfs-server | silver-dragon
[03:39] <silver-dragon> Thanks I will take a look in to glusterfs
[03:51] <SchrodingersScat> !info tahoe-lafs | silver-dragon
[03:53] <silver-dragon> can you span disks and make redundancy with LVM? From what I am reading it sounds like there is some basic software raid in the kernel.
[03:59] <qengho> silver-dragon: Sure you can. It's not bad. Also consider ZFS, which takes a little effort effort up front, but works quite well, perhaps better.
[04:00] <sponix> qengho: For the basic day to day operations ZFS is wicked simple in my humble opinion..
[04:02] <qengho> sponix: agreed. I tried to make it first-class fs for desktop 16.04, but the installer was too far behind to make the release.
[04:04] <Neuthrone> How do I install themes onto Ubuntu, nothing has seemed to work for me. The Unity Tweak Tool does not detect the theme I put in the theme folder.
[04:04] <sponix> qengho: That is a shame.. Other than soaking up a lot of ram ZFS is pretty awesome.. I normally find it hard to get excited about a File System.. But even being able to run at good speeds while scrubbing is sweet
[04:05] <xangua> Neuthrone: and what theme did you put on your .themes directory?
[04:06] <Neuthrone> xangua: I put the the Plane GTK3.6 theme on the .themes folder. I got it from the Ubuntu Themes site.
[04:06] <xangua> The Ubuntu themes site?
[04:07] <Neuthrone> xangua: http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/
[04:07] <xangua> And 3.6 seems rather old, current gtk is 3.20 I believe
[04:07] <qengho> sponix: I think it might get 32-bit support soon (as in, enough people use what's already there that it has some precedent and can be turned on) that it won't muddy the installer descriptions and be more of an obvious feature to have.
[04:07] <Neuthrone> xangua: How do I get this theme to work though?
[04:09] <xangua> Neuthrone: I see the theme was latest updated a year ago, so doubt it works with a recent Ubuntu release https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Plane-Gtk3.6?content=156309
[04:09] <Neuthrone> xangua: So which theme would work? Only ones that are GTK1 related?
[04:10] <xangua> To get it to "work" you'll have to learn gtk theming and dealing with every new gtk 3 release to constantly breaking theming support
[04:10] <xangua> I doubt you use any gtk1 stuff...
[04:11] <Neuthrone> xangua: Okay, so how do I work with these themes though?
[04:11] <silver-dragon> Is there any advantage to running ZFS on a single disk system like a laptop?
[04:12] <xangua> Neuthrone: use a more recent theme or learn yourself to theme gnome-look.org
[04:12] <phc> one drive only?
[04:12] <lnb> tried boot-repair-disk, after it ran, displays reboot computer, but it still does same thing and only shows flashing prompt after post
[04:12] <Neuthrone> xangua: Thank you for your help.
[04:13] <sponix> silver-dragon: On a powerful laptop it might be Okay.. You would gain File System snapshots and a few other neat tricks.. But for regular use plain old ext4 will probably do the best
[04:21] <paranoidabhi> hi
[04:21] <paranoidabhi> I wanted to test the new kernel http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc6-yakkety/ for 64 bit system. Which packages should I install?
[04:22] <paranoidabhi> I went through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds but it is a bit confusing.
[04:22] <sponix> paranoidabhi: Their is probably a PPA for that..
[04:22] <paranoidabhi> sponix, ppa for the kernel?
[04:23] <sponix> Likely..
[04:23] <paranoidabhi> Not sure. Can you link
[04:24] <sponix> You NEED 4.7 ?
[04:25] <paranoidabhi> sponix, yeah
[04:26] <paranoidabhi> trying this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428/comments/12
[04:27] <sponix> paranoidabhi: Well the Official kernel PPA is only covering 4.4.x .. And I found a manual install of 4.6.x .. But nothing published on 4.7 popped up.. Not saying it doesn't exist, my Google-FU is a bit weak  :P
[04:27] <sponix> paranoidabhi: Probably doesn't help that I started drinking early too
[04:34] <lnb> tried 14.04.4 ubuntu server install dvd, both install and rescue. Goes to screen to select language and then locks up at that point.
[04:35] <lnb> any idea what might be causing this and how to get around it?
[04:37] <sponix> lnb: Ubuntu 16.04 is the "New Hotness" did you think about trying it out to see if you get the same issue ??
[04:45] <xanax10667> anybody on
[04:46] <xanax10667> seem so blank
[04:46] <deceit> xanax will do that to you
[04:47] <xanax10667> for what reasons
[04:47] <Bashing-om> xanax10667: Got nothing to say. say nothing .
[04:47] <deceit> ^speaks volumes, w/o saying anything
[04:47] <xanax10667> 35835032
[04:52] <paranoidabhi> how to install 4.7 on ubuntu system ?
[04:52] <paranoidabhi> 64-bit system
[04:54] <lnb> sponix: no I haven
[04:54] <lnb> sponix: no I haven't
[04:55] <lnb> downloading 16.04 now
[04:57] <lnb> it just seems very strange when booting to dvd install disk, selected either rescue or install and both freeze at same point (language selection)
[04:59] <sponix> lnb: That is odd.. What hardware are you on ?
[04:59] <lnb> i was away for 2 weeks but vpn'd into the box. Upon return today, screen displayed the usual Ubuntu software update. Ran it and upon rebooting, it would not reboot to ubuntu
[05:00] <lnb> it has intel mother board, i7 proc, 4 x 4gb memory
[05:01] <Bashing-om> lnb: Maybe a GUI graphic's driver issue ... 16.04 might fo the better . We will see.
[05:01] <sponix> lnb: What graphics Card is in there ?
[05:01] <Joral> I finally got an xorg.conf file that properly sets the mode lines for my monitor, but now if I run something that is processor intensive the screen will flash once and then lock up.  Not even ctl-alt-del will allow me to reboot, I have to hold the power button.
[05:01] <lnb> no extra graphics card
[05:01] <lnb> just what is on intel mother board
[05:02] <Bashing-om> !raid | lnb
[05:04] <lnb> raid 1
[05:05] <sponix> Joral: to Kill and respawn "X" (the GUI) in Linux it is Normally CTRL+ALT+Backspace (not CTRL+ALT+DEL)..
[05:05] <lnb> i used Boot-Repair-Disk and it ran OK and said to reboot after it completed. but it did same, doesnt boot to ubuntu
[05:05] <lnb> https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
[05:06] <Joral> sponix, what I was saying is that everything goes dead.  ctl-alt-backspace will not kill x and ctl-alt-del will not reboot either.  Its like all controls go dead.
[05:07] <sponix> Joral: That always sucks
[05:07] <Joral> the screen just keeps flashing like x is trying to reload or recover
[05:08] <sponix> Joral: Could it be a Heat problem ?
[05:08] <mary222> so i started this relationship with this guy online. but he only texts me once a day. but this text is extremely intense. then i fall into despair because i don't hear from him till the next day. what can i do?
[05:09] <lnb> sponix: would you recommend a rescue (if it has it) or install ?
[05:09] <Joral> sponix, possible but highly unlikely, I had this system running gentoo a week ago, but the compile times were killing me and ubuntu caught up to the 4.2 ppc kernel so I could have sound again so I switched
[05:09] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> Hello nobody speak french please ? i have a false system on my computer,this is not a real linux,that s away i thinks a windows or a stupid game on web,long time i m alone and nothing speak
[05:09] <sponix> mary222: Masturbate
[05:10] <mary222> sponix: i'm in love with him
[05:10] <sponix> lnb: Depends on how important your current OS install is.. I recommend a fresh install if you _need_ one, and a rescue if your configuration or Data is very important to you ..
[05:11] <sponix> mary222: Masturbate Furiously !
[05:14] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> no that s really complicated,all support is fake,i know my computer and i see my bios this is a video game not my real os,i dont know who lie in my country,but i know that s fake,i have a background windows 10 on my linux,it s fake,and it s fake it s fake away...
[05:16] <lnb> sponix: it got passed the point using rescue with 16
[05:16] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> i have many false device
[05:17] <sponix> lnb: Glad to hear that
[05:21] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> real human here ?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> BiGrEgGaErOoTs: yes
[05:21] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> moi aussi
[05:22] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> je crois
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> BiGrEgGaErOoTs: do you have an ubuntu question?
[05:23] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> yes no
[05:25] <tih> hello
[05:25] <tih> somebody read my message?
[05:26] <freecoder_> tih: can you post it again?
[05:26] <tih> just a 'hello' lol
[05:26] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> i have a false system...long time many years....i m alone,isolated ,people joke on me,i m tried,i dont give a show,it s crazy,i live in bag a lie,i m crazy for all
[05:27] <freecoder_> BiGrEgGaErOoTs: use ubuntu :)
[05:27] <tih> freecoder, which IRC do you use in Ubuntu ?
[05:27] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> ubuntu kubunu xuibuntu toutou linux....etc....etc...ALLL SYSTEM IS FAKE FOR ME !
[05:27] <phc> lol
[05:27] <freecoder_> tih: hexchat
[05:28] <phc> omenserve with autoget
[05:28] <tih> hexchat has the 'reply' function?
[05:28] <freecoder_> 'reply' function?
[05:28] <tih> i mean, reply somebody
[05:28] <hiexpo> quit whinning
[05:29] <freecoder_> yes. all irc client have that afaik
[05:29] <hiexpo> maybe windows is good for you than BiGrEgGaErOoTs
[05:30] <BiGrEgGaErOoTs> Mais c'est normal que ici je passe pour un fou si ce je dis est vrai,forcément a part me prendre pour un con j ai pas a attendre bien plus....et mon linux est faux,j ai craké windows 10 il arrive pas a trouver le bug et quand il change de session il le transporte sur ce systeme qui me prouve que je n ai juste que l interface qui cchange
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !ot | BiGrEgGaErOoTs
[05:31] <drama> !france
[05:31] <dax> and putting them both together and dispensing with the factoid spam, #ubuntu-fr-offtopic ;)
[05:33] <phc> nice fellow there
[05:39] <colby_> i'm new to linux, could someone point me in the direction of a good linux learning manual that a non-programmer could understand?
[05:40] <Ben64> !manual | colby_
[05:40] <paranoidabhi> I installed linux 4.7 kernel on my ubuntu. How do I remove it? The latest kernel for my distro is 4.4
[05:40] <colby_> i'm looking for something more in depth that will help learn the basics but teach me more advanced things as well.
[05:41] <hateball> paranoidabhi: how did you install it?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> colby narrow your focus.  learn WHAT exactly?
[05:42] <hateball> colby_: The usual tip is to set out to solve a problem, then learn as you go
[05:42] <Ben64> colby_: have you even looked at that manual
[05:42] <fletcher_> anyone up to helping me with a Glx issue?
[05:42] <Ben64> paranoidabhi: theres no way for us to know. undo what you did...?
[05:42] <colby_> i guess the ins and outs of the guts. like really learning how to use the terminal and its commands.
[05:43] <Ben64> look at the manual ubottu linked to you
[05:43] <cfhowlett> colby_, search for "the linxu command line".  free download. and yes, see the !manual as well.
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !ask | fletcher_,
[05:44] <fletcher_> I Get this message anytime I try to run any of my Games "opengl glx extension not supported by display "
[05:44] <hiexpo> !opengl
[05:44] <fletcher_> !opengl
[05:45] <paranoidabhi> hateball, Ben64 This is what I installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/18504669/.
[05:45] <fletcher_> lol it's a bot
[05:45] <paranoidabhi> I am paranoid about wildcards, I messed up my system before.
[05:45] <colby_> @cfhowlett thanks for that
[05:45] <Ben64> paranoidabhi: you ought to be
[05:46] <Ben64> fletcher_: sounds like you don't have a driver running for your gpu that supports 3d acceleration
[05:46] <paranoidabhi> what is a safe way to uninstall?
[05:46] <hiexpo> exactly what video card you have
[05:46] <cfhowlett> colby_, happy2help!
[05:47] <Ben64> paranoidabhi: dpkg -r <package>
[05:47] <fletcher_> Ben I do have the correct drivers installed. I'm running an AMD gpu and it currently runs off the AMDGPu driver as that's the only AMD driver on 16.04
[05:47] <hiexpo> !amd
[05:47] <colby_> @hateball that's kind of what i've been doing, but i figured i'd ask because i various concepts are just not coming together.
[05:47] <fletcher_> Ben64, ^
[05:48] <Ben64> fletcher_: run this, give url here... "lshw -C VIDEO | nc termbin.com 9999"
[05:48] <fnodeuser> colby_: the @ character is not needed, this is not twitter
[05:48] <deceit> @fnodeuser #tellmeaboutit #irc #woahnottwitter
[05:48] <deceit> @rt
[05:49] <hiexpo> get the amd catalast from amd site
[05:49] <fletcher_> Ben64, http://termbin.com/fhh4
[05:49] <Joral> fletcher_, I am still running the radeon driver on 16.04, I'm not saying that its the one that you need, but both open source drivers still exist in 16.04
[05:49] <paranoidabhi> Ben64, a bit more specific if possible.
[05:50] <Joral> hiexpo, the new kernel api for drivers no longer supports fglrx so CCC is not an option on 16.04
[05:50] <fletcher_> Well i've tried the radon driver as well. I did something to mess up Mesa i think
[05:50] <hiexpo> oh okay
[05:50] <dax> and even when it was, getting it from AMD's site was not supported here
[05:50] <reev> Hii, how can i install google chrome not chromium in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[05:50] <fnodeuser> what?
[05:50] <deceit> i was just asserting your statement
[05:50] <fletcher_> reev you'll have to download it from the google site and install the .deb file
[05:51] <deceit> that this isn't twitter
[05:51] <fnodeuser> oh, ok :P
[05:51] <reev> fletcher_ I tried but it returns errors while trying to unpack ,I also made some changes to sources.list file
[05:51] <deceit> they do that on other channels here on freenode as well
[05:51] <fnodeuser> yes
[05:52] <deceit> it's really odd
[05:52] <fletcher_> reev I used it myself. so dunno
[05:52] <qengho> reeed: Google distributes Google Chrome. You download a "deb" file and install it, and it alters your software manager to get updates automatically.
[05:52] <fnodeuser> with linux he will start exploring and he will learn
[05:52] <fletcher_> !xorgconf
[05:53] <qengho> reev: What architecutre is your computer?
[05:53] <qengho> reev: Erase the downloaded "deb" file and retry.
[05:53] <fnodeuser> he left, so i guess he won't learn anything after all
[05:53] <fnodeuser> :P
[05:53] <hiexpo> lol
[05:53] <fnodeuser> :)
[05:54] <Joral> fnodeuser, yeah he will, it will just be the hard way :P
[05:54] <fnodeuser> ha :P
[05:54] <todd> I have a large collection of videos that I would like to stream from my ubuntu server to all of my PC's what should I use?
[05:54] <hiexpo> sink or swim
[05:55] <hiexpo> so you want a media server ?
[05:55] <reev> qengho amd64
[05:55] <reev> qengho where i can find original sources.list file for ubuntu 16.04 apt-get update too failed
[05:55] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: I find samba works great for that, or sshfs if your network is stable.. some purists might suggest nfs but I've played with that for years and it's always caused problems
[05:56] <Joral> todd, personal preference here so take it with a grain of salt, but I would look into Kodi
[05:56] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: No I want streaming, some of these videos are huge!
[05:56] <fletcher_> tried something but it didn't work
[05:57] <hiexpo> see i use my router for that wrt 1900
[05:57] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: ... yes
[05:57] <hiexpo> off a usb
[05:57] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: samba and ssh deal with raw files, not streaming media
[05:58] <fletcher_> I'm ariad I'll have to reinstall
[05:59] <Joral> todd, Kodi offers a client/server architecture with clients available for most OSs including android
[05:59] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: what's the difference between what you're talking about and playing a file direct from a network-mounted filesystem?
[05:59] <todd> Joral: Kodi looks like what I am looking for but I do not have gui access to the server
[06:00] <Joral> todd, I don't believe you need it but that would be a question for Kodi support
[06:01] <defekt> todd, or check out plex has a webserver UI
[06:01] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: Streaming = Transcoding the data (IE: only sending limited resolution on a small device, or reducing bandwith needs if the connection is slow). File shares is shareing well files... HUGE differance
[06:01] <andreas_> hi
[06:01] <todd> dekekt: I THOUGHT plex was non free???
[06:02] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: ah, I've never played with transcoding on the fly, my phone has a 1080p screen and plays anything I throw at it
[06:02] <Guest41667> hi
[06:02] <defekt> it's free unless you want to stream to andriod or idevice (you will have to refer to the website)
[06:02] <Guy1524> hey guys, this is really frustrating, on a laptop w/ integrated graphx and ubuntu 16.04, source games feel extremely choppy and low on framerate even when the framerate is well above the refresh rate.   I bet it will be laggy
[06:03] <Triffid_Hunter> todd: nope, don't have any
[06:04] <todd> Triffid_Hunter: well then my current smb set up would work for you... thanks though
[06:05] <andreas__> hi
[06:06] <dream_x> hello
[06:09] <Joral> sponix, simply running top in lxterminal caused x to crash again.  Any thoughts as to what could be wrong?
[06:10] <sponix> Joral: Are you running any bleeding Edge (Edgers) X from a PPA or anything ?
[06:10] <Guy1524> ugh, I have asked my question many times today but nobody answers ):
[06:10] <Joral> sponix, nope, fresh install with nothing fancy
[06:11] <Joral> only thing I have touched is the xorg.conf to get the monitor resolutions to work
[06:11] <sponix> Joral: Tested system stability off of a LiveDVD ?
[06:12] <Joral> sponix, yes, just installed three days ago and installer ran fine. problems started when I installed X on this system
[06:13] <sponix> Joral: What type of Graphics Card ?
[06:13] <k_sze[work]> Could somebody take a look at this: https://wiki.debian.org/chroot#A.2Fproc
[06:13] <k_sze[work]> The bad grammar makes it read like nonsense.
[06:13] <Joral> sponix, built in radeon 9200 (rv280)
[06:14] <qengho> k_sze[work]: I bet someone in #debian could fix it.
[06:15] <k_sze[work]> ugh, I kept thinking that's the ubuntu wiki. My bad.
[06:15] <sponix> Joral: Are you partial to Ubuntu ? You might try either a Clean Install of the Ubuntu Desktop Version, OR hopping around to a few other Distro's and see if they give better results.. At times certain configurations can be detected and ran better on different setups..
[06:16] <Grorco> Hello World!
[06:16] <Joral> sponix, no other distros besides gentoo provide support for ppc. and I did not find a desktop spin of ubuntu for ppc
[06:17] <sponix> Joral: Why on earth are you running a PPC ?
[06:17] <sponix> Joral: I'm wondering if "Yellow Dog" Linux still exists ..
[06:18] <Joral> sponix, yellowdog no longer exists and this G4 emac was given to me so of course I'm going to put it to use :P
[06:19] <sponix> Joral: Okay.. I give you props for that.. Might check FreeBSD or NetBSD to see if they are still active on PPC.. I know a lot of *nix flavors are dropping it due to the Age..
[06:20] <Joral> sponix, as I said the two distros that still "offer" support for ppc are ubuntu and gentoo
[06:20] <sponix> Joral: I had a friend with an eMac/iMac in College and we had Yellow Dog running on it back then
[06:21] <sergioad> Hello friends here anoying you with another gamepads question
[06:21] <Joral> sponix, ok so debian I believe still offers support as well but thats still going to be the same issues as ubuntu
[06:21] <sponix> Joral: likely
[06:21] <logeshwaran> hello world
[06:22] <Grorco> hi
[06:22] <logeshwaran> hi
[06:22] <Gooer> hi from kenya
[06:22] <logeshwaran> im from india
[06:22] <Joral> sponix, the other issue is that since I don't have a firewire hdd the only method I can use to try a new distro is to boot from cd which makes the gues and check method very expensive lol
[06:23] <logeshwaran> i
[06:23] <sergioad> could / would a GameSir G3S bluetooth gamepad work with Ubuntu + XBOXDRV using the mimic xpad and mimic xpad wireles options?
[06:23] <logeshwaran> i am using this only now so i cant
[06:24] <antler> installed 16.04 on a 14.04 that would not boot. After 16.04 installed, rebooted, ubuntu server doesn't boot. Just flashing cursor. Put in install dvd, ran rescue and now have shell open on / which is a raid. Tried to reinstall grub to 1st disk /dev/sda but it fails.
[06:25] <antler> Tried reinstall grub before going into shell obviously
[06:25] <antler> so it seems grub is messed up. How to fix this?
[06:27] <sponix> Joral: http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/macppc/
[06:28] <sponix> Joral: Not 100% sure it will do ANY Better, BUT NetBSD is still doing PPC.. Given the install and so forth is probably still a bit rough compared to Linux though
[06:28] <Tin_man> antler if it is a grub problem, try this tool: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[06:28] <sponix> Joral: Outside of that, I'm pretty much stumped.. Almost wish I had one of those to play with.. Think my Father may still have one in the Attic
[06:29] <Tin_man> you can download it from your live dvd ..
[06:29] <Grorco> Hi I want to report a bug for my wifi + bluetooth card, it gets hard locked on suspend but I'm not sure where to file hardware bugs...
[06:29] <Joral> sponix, I know that this isn't the powermac channel and I am able/willing to play around with it so if you were looking at a similar issue on x86 what would you think it might be?
[06:30] <Grorco> Also it's a propriatary driver so I'm not sure if I would have to get ahold of bcm somehow
[06:30] <abhvl> hi
[06:31] <Grorco> hi
[06:31] <Joral> sponix, also if you do get it from him i will give you my xorg.conf to fix the modeline issues you will have with the new driver
[06:31] <sponix> Joral: I might try renaming the xorg.conf file to have it "generate" a fresh one and see if helps at all
[06:32] <sponix> Joral: Is there an "Older" X driver that might be more Stable ?
[06:32] <Joral> sponix, modern x doesn't use an xorg.conf file so it wont generate one
[06:33] <qengho> Generate a xorg.conf? Does it write one, or use sane defaults when a file is missing?
[06:33] <sponix> Joral: Hmm, it appears my Linux knowledge is getting dated as we speak :P
[06:33] <Joral> sponix, i'm not sure how to look at version numbers in apt
[06:33] <Joral> sponix, lol, you aren't the only one
[06:33] <qengho> $ dpkg -l foo |cat
[06:34] <sponix> Joral: So let me get this straight.. X Loads, then it crashes ? Or does it do okay until you start running a few things ?
[06:34] <boodllebat> i just install manpages-posix-dev
[06:34] <Joral> sponix, x loads and I can log in etc, but as soon as I do anything to put a load on the system the screen becomes a blinking light
[06:34] <boodllebat> and when i do man sys/types.h , i never finds it
[06:35] <sergioad> friends anybody uses a GameSir G3S gamepad?
[06:35] <qengho> Joral: "apt policy packagename" is one of the best ways to inspect versions installed and available.
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> hi!
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> I am stuck at this bug for long. Any suggestions https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428
[06:35] <boodllebat> what package should i install to get manual pages for all the types which are supported and how to look them ?
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> any more debugging output I should etc.
[06:35] <paranoidabhi> should *add etc
[06:36] <Joral> qengho, so if installed matches candidate I am running the most current stable version?
[06:37] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: you will be told if you need to add something.
[06:37] <qengho> Joral: Very likely. There are other factors that you could have added, but if you didn't every type "pin" anywhere, and you have run "apt update" to learn contemporary versions, then you're fine.
[06:38] <sponix> Joral: Might try another Desktop Environment (DE) such as xubuntu-desktop.. And might try a few Alternative cooling solutions also, just to make sure it isn't a thermal issue..
[06:38] <qengho> boodllebat: $ dpkg -L manpages-posix-dev |grep types; echo ah hah; man sys_types.h
[06:39] <Joral> sponix, problem there is I can't run plasma or gnome as I don't have hardware acceleration and I was running lxde specifically to try and keep the footprint small.  Any suggestions on another lightweight DE to try?
[06:40] <paranoidabhi> I am new to ubuntu. Can sum1 tell how this would? They would fix and I would receive it in updates? So will I receive a separate package to install.
[06:40] <paranoidabhi> I noticed a similar bug pending for long https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173 which makes me paranoid about the fix.
[06:40] <sponix> Joral: XFCE -- Xubuntu is fairly light.. Not AS light as lxde
[06:40] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: it will come through updates if it is fixed.
[06:41] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, will it notified in the bugreport comments?
[06:41] <qengho> paranoidabhi: I do not think you specially would receive a package delivered on a platter, but everyone will receive fixes when they are applied to Ubuntu.
[06:41] <Joral> what is the name of the Xorg meta package?
[06:41] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: the status will be changed to "fix released"
[06:42] <qengho> ... in Ubuntu package. Upstream bug links are not
[06:42] <qengho> not always soon before Ubuntu updates.
[06:43] <paranoidabhi> qengho, okay, would I need to check the fix to make sure it is fixed.
[06:43] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: obviously.
[06:44] <paranoidabhi> is there eta for such fixes normally?
[06:44] <qengho> paranoidabhi: Yes, watch the bug report. Sign up for notifications to changes on bugs.launchpad.net
[06:44] <sergioad> anybody knows?
[06:45] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: no, you've already been told all this before. all you can do is watch the bugreport and keep testing new mainline kernels.
[06:45] <boodllebat> qengho: there are many datatypes which i dont know where they are located how could i know about them ? like ssize_t and many more , Thanks for replying
[06:45] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, okay thanks. :)
[06:45] <qengho> paranoidabhi: Whenever It's Ready™.  Sorry for uncertainty.
[06:46] <qengho> boodllebat: $ ack-grep "define ssize_t /usr/include"
[06:47] <qengho> boodllebat: Move that last  "  to after _t .
[06:48] <FredTheNoob> hi there guys, I'm wondering if c# project made on ubuntu and monodevelop could run on windows... if anybody knows, sorry if that thing isn't for this chan
[06:49] <drama> FredTheNoob, It's all moving to Net Core google it
[06:49] <FredTheNoob> Thks drama!
[06:49] <boodllebat> qengho: i did this ack-grep "define size_t" /usr/include but it did not gave me the defination of size_t
[06:51] <FredTheNoob> I have installed Net Core and VS Code, but I have not Idea, how to do that thing...
[06:51] <qengho> boodllebat: Ah. What syscall do you need size_t for?
[06:52] <boodllebat> qengho: i was just somebody's source and he used it i just want to know what is that type actually
[06:52] <drama> FredTheNoob, get Visual Core and write something
[06:53] <FredTheNoob> drama that thing is like gedit
[06:54] <drama> FredTheNoob, install plugins for the language you want like the how to's say
[06:54] <boodllebat> reading
[06:55] <FredTheNoob> k drama, thks
[06:55] <Grorco> anyone know a good apt for hardware/ system info?
[06:56] <abhvl> sysinfo
[06:56] <abhvl> Grorco, ^
[06:56] <Grorco> adhvl: it keeps crashing on me when I goto use it :(
[06:56] <nils_> Grorco, lshw
[06:56] <boodllebat> qengho: okay it is declared as typedef so i can find about it if i get to grep a statement like typedef *(wildcard) size_t
[06:57] <abhvl> Grorco, hardinfo. more here http://www.howtogeek.com/111617/how-to-benchmark-your-linux-system-3-open-source-benchmarking-tools/
[06:57] <Tin_man> Grorco, hardinfo i believe it's called
[06:57] <boodllebat> qengho: but i dont know correct grep statement
[06:58] <Grorco> nils_ I was thinking graphical but thank you :)
[06:58] <Grorco> Tin_man, I'm downloading it now to try it out :)
[06:59] <abhvl> Grorco, dont download. you can install it using sudo apt-get install
[06:59] <PCatinean> Can anyone help with video editing in Ubuntu? I record screencasts using Kazam and nobody seems to be able to open them at the quality and framerate recorded
[06:59] <Tin_man> i've used it, outputs a bunch of info..
[06:59] <Grorco> Thats how I downloaded it
[06:59] <abhvl> PCatinean, try other softwares? or convert it to proper format?
[06:59] <Grorco> Tin_man, Perfect thank you!
[07:00] <Tin_man> abhvl had the same thought..
[07:00] <PCatinean> abhvl, I'm not familiar with hat format to use, mp4 is used so far and almost everyone has issues with it
[07:00] <PCatinean> aw avi would have 1gb per like 10 seconds or less which is silly
[07:05] <qengho> boodllebat: you might need a good C11 book.
[07:05] <boodllebat> qengho: can you suggest one ?
[07:06] <boodllebat> qengho: does book contains all the datatypes ?
[07:07] <todd> OK so I just installed Kodi on my ubuntu box, unfortunatly I only have ssh access help!!!
[07:08] <qengho> boodllebat: Sorry. No.
[07:08] <qengho> todd: what do you expect to have?
[07:08] <ducasse> boodllebat: programming is not really supported here, try a channel for your language
[07:09] <ducasse> todd: what are you trying to do?
[07:10] <todd> qengho: I have ssh access to the server, but not a X11, and I have never done that before, and kodi has a web interface, but its disabled, I am trying to enable the web interface
[07:11] <ducasse> todd: you need to run kodi in x11 to enable the web interface. if you can't, you can try editing the config manually.
[07:11] <todd> ducasse: sure, so how do I run the x11 interface via ssh?
[07:12] <ducasse> todd: 'ssh -X'
[07:12] <ducasse> todd: but it will be _slow_
[07:12] <todd> ducasse: slow is fine, I just need it to enable web
[07:13] <ducasse> todd: there's not really a lot you can do from the webui anyway, you really need local x11.
[07:14] <todd> ducasse: ok I am in, and have a ssh prompt, now what?
[07:14] <qengho> todd: What happens on a Kodi box without a display? What's your goal?
[07:14] <ducasse> todd: 'kodi&' - but read what i wrote.
[07:15] <todd> my goal is to stream a bunch of big videos to my other pc;s
[07:15] <ducasse> todd: then use another dlna server.
[07:15] <qengho> todd: This is really offtopic here, but I don't think Kodi does that. You're using a client as a server.
[07:16] <ducasse> qengho: kodi can be a dlna server.
[07:17] <ducasse> todd: but this is a bad way to do it. try minidlna, or something like emby that has a proper webui.
[07:17] <qengho> todd: I think you're doing this upside down. Install nfs utils or a dlna server or whatever your clients understand.
[07:24] <Joral> what dm does xubuntu use?
[07:24] <ducasse> Joral: lightdm
[07:26] <Joral> ducasse, ok thanks, does ligh dm offer a menu to choose the desktop to load? I didn't see one and it is still loading lxde
[07:27] <ducasse> Joral: in the top right corner, i think.
[07:28] <ducasse> Joral: either that or close to your username, it depends on which greeter and theme you're using.
[07:29] <Joral> ducasse, I checked both of those locations and didn't see one.  Trying lxdm really quick to see if it does any better.
[07:29] <ducasse> Joral: did you install xubuntu from scatch or just the desktop?
[07:30] <Joral> ducasse, I installed all of the xubuntu packages
[07:31] <nacho_> Hooooola
[07:31] <ducasse> Joral: if you were using another dm before, i don't think that will swap it to lightdm unless you do 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[07:32] <Joral> ducasse, was using lubuntu prior which was also using lightdm
[07:33] <ducasse> Joral: ok. then there should definitely be a menu to select desktop, i'm using lightdm myself.
[07:34] <Joral> ducasse, I re-enabled lightdm and ran dpkg-reconfigure lightdm just to be sure
[07:36] <Joral> ducasse, ok I feel stupid now, its right next to the locale selection and i just didn't realize that was another menu
[07:36] <ducasse> Joral: :)
[07:39] <Joral> well xubuntu is still laggy but doesn't appear to be crashing like lxde.  Thanks for the help guys, now off to bed i go since the alarm goes off in four hours
[07:40] <ducasse> Joral: good luck, hope it will work better
[07:40] <todd> ok so I got in enabled the web interface... kodi is timeing out :-(
[07:40] <chinamikey> hello and aloha from Hawaii :D
[07:40] <Joral> ducasse, yep, only thing left to figure out is the right mouse button emulation/keyboard modifier
[07:41] <tuxedo> Hello chinamikey
[07:41] <todd> qengho: nfs? dlna? I am not sure... this is ubuntu to unbuntu
[07:41] <chinamikey> hi tuxedo
[07:42] <tuxedo> May you share your setup....It is the best way to introduce @chinamikey :v
[07:43] <chinamikey> does anyone know if I can install apache or nginx to a partition using a live Ubuntu DVD?
[07:44] <todd> cinamikey: yes, but you probably want to actually install the os, as a reboot will wipe out your install
[07:44] <Triffid_Hunter> chinamikey: into an existing linux install on the partition? sure, you can chroot in, but it would be heaps easier to boot it normally..
[07:45] <ducasse> todd: see the answer i wrote to you earlier, there are a couple of suggestions.
[07:46] <chinamikey> Ok, thanks Triffid. I have a few live DVDs, and I do have a server iso, but...no media to burn it to!
[07:46] <juanonymous> how do i completely remove windows from a dual boot?
[07:46] <chinamikey> this will be my first time to mess with server. Putting on an old laptop on 2nd partition.
[07:47] <ducasse> chinamikey: you can't run nginx from a server installer, you need to install to disk.
[07:47] <Triffid_Hunter> chinamikey: most modern liveDVDs can be put on a usbkey and work fine
[07:47] <chinamikey> ah...ok. I can go apache then. Just experimenting
[07:48] <chinamikey> I know I will run it from terminal, and that is what I am looking forward to.
[07:48] <chinamikey> Triffid, I am going to put this on an OLD 10yr laptop! Won't read from usb!
[07:48] <chinamikey> thanks though
[07:49] <Triffid_Hunter> chinamikey: 10y old should be new enough to boot from usb, might have to flip some bits in the bios first though
[07:49] <chinamikey> I mean won't boot rather
[07:49] <chinamikey> yeah, maybe. I haven't looked into it yet. Some BIOS do have that for sure
[07:50] <chinamikey> Here is my problem no. 2. I have no avaiable thumbdrives laying around.
[07:50] <sruli> hi, would anyone know how i can lock the screen from a script. lubuntu 16.04, 'gnome-screensaver-command' does not work on 16.04. 'xdg-screensaver --lock' does not work from script
[07:50] <chinamikey> no blank dvds. I have three full external drives, so...trying to think of something
[07:51] <ducasse> sruli: are you using lightdm?
[07:52] <chinamikey> right now all I can think of is dropping in the live Ubuntu, install that, and then add apache software and related?
[07:52] <sruli> ducasse: yes, lubuntu uses lightdm
[07:52] <ducasse> sruli: 'dm-tool lock' should work, then.
[07:53] <chinamikey> thnx for your input Triffid_Hunter
[07:53] <chinamikey> We just wrapped up 4th of July here in Hawaii. Only 10 PM way out here in the Pacific.
[07:56] <chinamikey> MSG ducasse thanks for your help too
[07:56] <chinamikey> oops
[07:56] <chinamikey> haha
[07:56] <ducasse> chinamikey: :)
[07:56] <sruli> ducasse: i get an error "not running inside a display manager XDG_SEAT_PATH not defined" as i wrote before i need to be able to execute it from a script
[07:57] <ducasse> sruli: how is this script started? i'm guessing the environment is not set up correctly.
[07:58] <sruli> ducasse: no environment, just #!/bin/bash dm-tool lock
[07:58] <ducasse> sruli: yes, but how is it started?
[07:59] <sruli> i call the script with "sudo /path/to/script/, but the command in the script is "sudo -u user dm-tool lock"
[08:00] <ducasse> sruli: sudo strips the environment for safety.
[08:01] <sruli> ducasse: how can i get the environment in that script, it has to be called with sudo as its executed somewhere along a chain of scripts which all require sudo
[08:02] <ducasse> sruli: in that case you need to set up the environment manually in the script, you will probably need at least DISPLAY, XAUTHORITY and XDG_SEAT_PATH
[08:02] <sruli> dualmal: can u help me with the full command to put in?
[08:03] <sruli> ducasse: ^^
[08:03] <ducasse> sruli: just see what those variables are set to in your normal shell and replicate the values
[08:04] <sruli> ducasse: how do i see that
[08:04] <ducasse> sruli: 'echo $DISPLAY', and then do the same for the other variables, and set them all in your script.
[08:06] <sruli> ducasse: what do I put in the script? "export DSIPLAY=:0" ?
[08:06] <ducasse> sruli: yup.
[08:07] <qengho> The Right Way is to use "sudo -E" or define the variables to survive passing with "visudo" and "man sudoers".
[08:11] <sruli> ducasse: i get an error "sudo: export: command not found" i tried with "sudo -u user export..." and just "export..."
[08:13] <ducasse> sruli: put the variables in the script, not on the sudo command line.
[08:13] <Triffid_Hunter> sruli: export is a bash builtin, what shell are you using?
[08:13] <sruli> ducasse: i put it in the script...
[08:13] <sruli> Triffid_Hunter: i am using a sh script
[08:15] <auronandace|work> !dash
[08:17] <sruli> auronandace|work: i am using #!/bin/bash
[08:17] <ducasse> sruli: for scripting help, try ##linux or #bash, it's not really supported here.
[08:17] <sruli> thanks for trying
[08:24] <m1dnight_> Has anyone here used the YakYak app?
[08:29] <drag0nius> how can i get location of service config?
[08:35] <hateball> drag0nius: can you elaborate?
[08:41] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I've got a problem on my ecryptfs volume. I can reproducibly cause an error that looks like a file system error. I've checked the FS on the partition beneath the encryption (/dev/sda3), no errors there. Now how can I check the encrypted FS itself? Each time I boot from a stick and open the volume, I then can't run fsck, as that tells me that the device is busy (which, as the partition is now not only decrypted, but mounted, isn't surprising).
[08:45] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: afaik, there's no way to do that. the fs you'd want to check is the underlying one, as you've correctly done. i suspect a file has been corrupted, or there is a fuse/ecryptfs bug.
[08:45] <Schwarzbaer> ducasse, then the solution here is what? Backup everything, reformat, get back data?
[08:45] <Siilwyn[m]1> Hi people, I'm thinking about installing 16.04... I read that 16.04.1 will include support for more hardware and include updates. Will 16.04 get the same hardware support and updates when 16.04.1 is out?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> Siilwyn[m]1, yes
[08:46] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: it would probably be best to backup the unencrypted data you can get at and recreate the ecryptfs.
[08:46] <chinamikey> Hi and Aloha from Hawaii
[08:46] <Siilwyn[m]1> cfhowlett (IRC): alright thank you!
[08:47]  * chinamikey does the hula
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Siilwyn[m]1, happy2help!
[08:47] <Siilwyn[m]1> ^^
[08:47] <Schwarzbaer> Well, that's... disappointing. Still, thanks.
[08:47] <defekt> Siilwyn[m]1: more support for hardware and firmwarm is just dependant on the kernel version
[08:48] <Siilwyn[m]> defekt: alright and the point release won't have a higher kernel version?
[08:48] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: i've got no other suggestions, sorry. ecryptfs is not a "real" fiilesystem that you can check and repair.
[08:48]  * defekt nods at Siilwyn[m]
[08:48] <chinamikey> need to verify something please
[08:49]  * Siilwyn[m] says cheers and grabs an USB stick to get installing
[08:49] <chinamikey> can I dd an iso file to an empty partition, then set it up in Grub and boot it after restart?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> chinamikey, yes
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !grub > cfhowlett
[08:50] <chinamikey> cfhowlett: thanks. So when I do that, I will then have to have a second partition for THAT to install to, right?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> chinamikey, indeed.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Booting_an_ISO_from_a_Menuentry
[08:51] <chinamikey> chinamikey: oh great! I have been scratchin my noggin for a bit
[08:51] <chinamikey> :D
[08:51] <chinamikey> I have no media to burn the iso to, but I am going to use a live DVD to dd the iso file to the partition.
[08:51] <chinamikey> I think I'm on the right track.
[08:52] <Siilwyn[m]> chinamikey (IRC): > I have been scratchin my noggin for a bit
[08:52] <Siilwyn[m]> what does that even mean?
[08:52] <defekt> !botsnack
[08:52] <chinamikey> Oh, sorry, I am from "the deep south"--Texas. It means I have been scratching my head in confusion. noggin = head
[08:53] <Siilwyn[m]> ah alright, haha it sounded like something else
[08:54] <Siilwyn[m]> I just donated a bit to Ubuntu before downloading the ISO but it doesn't seem to download... Is it me or does this page indeed not send a file?
[08:54] <Siilwyn[m]> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=NL&version=16%252e04&architecture=amd64
[08:54] <chinamikey> Siilwyn[m]: OIC. yeah, could sound rather vulgar! HAHA
[08:55] <chinamikey> cfhowlett:  OK, gong to go try this. I'll come back and let ya know if it worked, if you're still here.
[08:56] <defekt> Siilwyn[m]: try http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[08:58] <Siilwyn[m]> defekt (IRC): yes but it should send the file when on the page I send right?
[08:58] <Siilwyn[m]> If you click 'download' on the page you send it asks for a donation, so I did, then it sends me to the page with a thank you and in the url you see it includes the version and all, I was kind of confused there where I could it
[08:58] <Siilwyn[m]> that means you'll have to go back and click 'no thank you' even though you donated
[08:58] <crane> hey ho, i'm a litte bit confused about a umask. i have setup in /etc/init.d/php5-fpm.conf my umask described like in https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21248904/how-to-trace-where-php5-fpm-umask-settings-are-coming-from-on-ubuntu but... everytime php-fpm writes the directory it gets created with 755 and not 775
[08:59] <k1l_> Siilwyn[m]: it should download. maybe the donation process is not fully done.
[08:59] <k1l_> Siilwyn[m]: else try here: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimages/
[08:59] <Siilwyn[m]> that's kind of really bad to be honest :)
[09:00] <Siilwyn[m]> but okay, I'm downloading now
[09:00] <qengho> Siilwyn[m]: that is bad. I'll file a bug.
[09:00] <Siilwyn[m]> is there anywhere where I could potentially report this?
[09:00] <Siilwyn[m]> oh even better, thank you qengho!
[09:01] <Siilwyn[m]> I tried reporting a bug once some time ago but couldn't figure out how. ;p
[09:01] <k1l_> !bug
[09:01] <Siilwyn[m]> on launchpad if I remember correctly
[09:01] <qengho> Siilwyn[m]: In this case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content
[09:03] <Tomster> Hi. I need help with Ubuntu. Somehow, my power configuration was messed up. Whenever I plug in my laptop, it claims that it's unplugged, and when I unplug it, it says that it's plugged it
[09:04] <qengho> Siilwyn[m]: Subscribe. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1599080  Add notes.
[09:04] <CarolineYu> ycc
[09:05] <qengho> Tomster: That's weird. Has it ever worked?
[09:07] <anurag> webbrowser.open("http://google.co.in")
[09:13] <qengho> Tomster left. Dang. I worked out  sudo sh -c 'watch -n 0.1 tail /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/battery/*/power_supply/BAT?/*_now'
[09:19] <Matsy> Hey everyone! What happens when a mountpoint loses a connection?
[09:19] <Matsy> Will it automatically open the connection again?
[09:19] <Matsy> It's a remote CIFS mountpoint
[09:20] <Berto> muuy buenas
[09:20] <Berto> Saludos a todos en general..
[09:21] <Berto> este seria un canal para ayuda sobre Xubuntu 14.04
[09:21] <Berto> ?
[09:21] <esiodos> hola Berto
[09:21] <ducasse> !es | Berto
[09:26] <unomie> E: Package 'phpmyadmin' has no installation candidate   — Hmm?
[09:31] <guest> unomie: please run "apt-get update" first, and it it still doesn't work, please put the output of both commands in http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel.
[09:31] <guest> unomie: Please also let me know which Ubuntu version you're using
[09:32] <zenith_> Name the fool who designs autocaptcha verification templates !
[09:33] <unomie> guest: Ubuntu 15.10 - http://paste.ubuntu.com/18519532/
[09:34] <zenith_> It feels more like a gk quiz not a robo verification !
[09:34] <zenith_> Totally inconvinient !
[09:35] <zenith_> All that I posted was for freenode connectivity to this irc !
[09:36] <zenith_> *webchat.freenode
[09:36] <ducasse> !ot | zenith_
[09:36] <zenith_> Anybody familiar with zenity here ?
[09:38] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[09:38] <liquid-silence> hi all
[09:38] <liquid-silence> is there a way to fix this W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[09:38] <liquid-silence> without having to edit the sources.list
[09:39] <liquid-silence> I am using this in a vagrant environment
[09:40] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[09:40] <zenith_> Is this the correct format to use in putting a window-icon
[09:41] <zenith_> It gives an error
[09:41] <liquid-silence> no one?
[09:44] <paranoidabhi> hi
[09:44] <paranoidabhi> is there anyway to suppress the output of process id when launching <process> &?
[09:45] <liquid-silence> process & > /dev/null?
[09:46] <liquid-silence> process > /dev/null & IIRC
[09:47] <zenith_> Command to register nick to ##linux ?
[09:48] <zenith_> Anybody alive
[09:49] <hateball> !register | zenith_
[09:52] <zenith_> hateball : /nick <name> isn't working !
[09:52] <zenith_> still cant peak
[09:52] <zenith_> *speak
[09:52] <Cursarion> are you trying to /nick zenith
[09:52] <hateball> zenith_: Did you miss the part about help available in #freenode ?
[09:52] <Cursarion> by any chance?
[09:52] <Cursarion> because someone else is using that nickname
[09:52] <liquid-silence> hmm /msg nicksever register <password> | /msg nickserv identify <password>
[09:53] <Anarhist> hi, how do i update from previous LTS to the current one, i have 14.04 installed right now
[09:53] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | Anarhist
[09:53] <liquid-silence> now back to fixing my crappy apt update issue
[09:54] <Anarhist> i thought 04 meant april
[09:54] <Anarhist> i guess i was wrong q;-)=
[09:54] <HiDeHo> Hi all how do i add the ubuntu non-free repos
[09:54] <k1l_> Anarhist: the LTS upgrade is opened on the first pointrelease 16.04.1
[09:54] <Anarhist> gotcha
[09:55] <k1l_> liquid-silence: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* ; sudo apt update"
[09:55] <liquid-silence> I did that many many many times :(
[09:55] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[09:55] <zenith_> Is this the correct format to use in putting a window-icon
[09:55] <zenith_> in zenity
[09:55] <k1l_> Anarhist: if you need to upgrade now you can use the developer LTS upgrade. but that is on your own risk then
[09:55] <zenith_> It gives an error
[09:56] <Anarhist> k1l_, i do not absolutely need to upgrade right now
[09:56] <Anarhist> thanks
[09:56] <guest> unomie: how come you have a mix of wily and trusty sources in your sources.list?
[09:56] <guest> unomie: Is this system upgraded? What's going on with that?
[09:57] <k1l_> unomie: please run a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:57] <unomie> guest: Yeah I upgraded it recently
[09:58] <guest> unomie: how did you upgrade it?
[09:58] <guest> unomie: What version do you think you're on? What is the output of: cat /etc/issue.net
[10:00] <unomie> guest:  output is Ubuntu 15.10
[10:01] <unomie> I upgraded via ssh using do-release-upgrade iirc
 unomie: please run a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"   can you please provide the output-url?
[10:01] <zenith_> Anybody familiar with zenity here ?
[10:02] <liquid-silence> k1l_ I have tried that
[10:02] <liquid-silence> no luck
[10:02] <guest> unomie: back up the file /etc/apt/sources.list, then replace it with the contents of this file https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/wily/sources_47a58c8dafb89aa8932d73e310951dfad2bd87fb.txt
[10:03] <guest> unomie: Then run "apt-get update" again, then you should be fixed
[10:03] <zenith_> If no you can also refer any online source. manual for zenity isn't that informative too !
[10:03] <unomie> k1l_: http://termbin.com/m2jj
[10:03] <unomie> ok thx guest :)
[10:03] <guest> unomie: you can do it in one line like this: curl https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/wily/sources_47a58c8dafb89aa8932d73e310951dfad2bd87fb.txt | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:03] <liquid-silence> why is this so damn hard
[10:03] <k1l_> uh, that looks like a mess. that sources.list.
[10:04] <unomie> Done that - still getting phpmyadmin still has no installation candidate
[10:04] <HiDeHo> hi all how to manually install the ubuntu non-free repos
[10:04] <k1l_> better use a clean 15.10 sources.list and then run "sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade"
[10:05] <Ben64> zenith_: if it gives an error, that probably means you didn't do it right
[10:06] <unomie> k1l_: generated one here - https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php - same error
[10:06] <zenith_> What's the correct format for general options ?
[10:06] <Ben64> zenith_: have you checked 'man zenity'
[10:06] <qofcheez> hi, desperate person in way over her head with an ubuntu issue. would greatly appreciate any pointing in the right direction or assistance
[10:07] <zenith_> watch this http://paste.ubuntu.com/18522343/
[10:08] <Ben64> yep thats part of the man page
[10:08] <zenith_> Tried the same
[10:08] <Ben64> what exactly are you typing
[10:08] <zenith_> zenity --General --window-icon=ICONPATH
[10:08] <Ben64> nowhere in the man page does it say --General
[10:09] <zenith_> But I used others as info in such format!
[10:09] <zenith_> and that worked
[10:09] <Ben64> because they're in the man page
[10:10] <zenith_> zenity --info --text="Bye"
[10:10] <zenith_> It works
[10:10] <Ben64> yep, those are in the man page
[10:10] <Ben64> --flarpyfoo "bob" won't work because it's not in the man page
[10:10] <qofcheez> can anyone direct me to where I might find some technical support?
[10:11] <Ben64> qofcheez: for ubuntu, right here
[10:11] <Dandels> qofcheez, just ask the question. Someone will answer if they know the answer
[10:11] <Dandels> (That sounded more blunt than I intended it to)
[10:11] <qofcheez> ok it's a bit long but I'll boil it down
[10:12] <qofcheez> new installation, not recognizing network hardware, broadcomm device
[10:12] <qofcheez> know what I need to install,tried following instructions won't work
[10:12] <qofcheez> no direct line to internet, no cd drive, mounted iso from usb as cd drive, won't work
[10:13] <Indrek> what is a proper way to remove hdd from ubuntu ?
[10:13] <qofcheez> need firmware-b43-installer but how to get it and how to install it?
[10:13] <zenith_> Ben64 : What do you wanna say ?
[10:13] <zenith_> In zenity --info --text="Bye", info is the option for zenity ! that's why I used --general !
[10:13] <zenith_> *--info
[10:13] <hateball> qofcheez: well you will need some device that has access to the internet at least, and a means to transfer to the computer, USB or such
[10:13] <Ben64> zenith_: because it literally says "--info" in the man page! IT NEVER SAYS --General!!!
[10:13] <qofcheez> got another laptio here that can do that
[10:14] <Ben64> zenith_: you made up that option and are wondering why it isn't working. it's because you made it up!
[10:14] <Dandels> So your issue is that you know the package you need but not now to get it to the computer you want to install on?
[10:14] <qofcheez> tried this: https://itsfoss.com/fix-no-wireless-network-ubuntu/  but once I hit apply changes the cd unounts and nothing happens
[10:15] <qofcheez> I used another site to determine what my exact hardware is and what package applies
[10:15] <zenith_> Ohk Just mention the option for designing (size, layout , window icon,etc.)
[10:15] <hateball> qofcheez: yes it requires you have working internet
[10:15] <Dandels> qofcheez, you get your exact hardware by opening a terminal and typing "lspci"
[10:15] <qofcheez> one the ubuntu laptop or the spare?  I have it on the spare
[10:15] <hateball> qofcheez: but you can manually download http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/firmware-b43-installer/download and http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/b43-fwcutter/download
[10:15] <Ben64> zenith_: are you serious? you pasted the relevant section from the man page
[10:16] <qofcheez> oh, hate ball that looks brilliant will try that one\
[10:17] <hateball> qofcheez: so put those two in a folder of your choice, open a terminal and navigate to the folder, then run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[10:17] <zenith_> Ben64 : zenity --window-icon=ICONPATH doesn't works even
[10:17] <hateball> qofcheez: and hopefully there will be no complaints, and one reboot later you're all set
[10:17] <zenith_> says choose appropriate dialo option!
[10:17] <zenith_> *dialog
[10:18] <qofcheez> thank you so much, I will trot off and try that and let you know.
[10:18] <Ben64> zenith_: right, so choose the the type of dialog
[10:20] <zenith_> Ben64 : Can you refer to a more detailed description for usage (any source)?
[10:21] <Ben64> the man page. you need to spend more time reading it
[10:21] <Ben64> everything you're asking is right in there
[10:21] <pa> is 16.04.1 out? release was scheduled for june 21, right?
[10:21] <akik> i'm initializing a 4 terabyte usb disk with "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1". somehow the initialization process went into the background and i was returned to the shell. what happens if i shutdown the computer now?
[10:21] <losh> Hello, I'm being asked to install nvm on Trusty but there's no package available.  What is the reason nvm isn't available as a deb package?
[10:22] <Ben64> pa: july
[10:22] <pa> ah ok
[10:22] <pa> thanks
[10:22] <Ben64> akik: it'll shut down probably. maybe check to see if mkfs is still running, it might have just finished quickly
[10:23] <akik> Ben64: i'm seeing the activity led light blinking constantly
[10:23] <Ben64> check processes
[10:23] <akik> Ben64: mkfs.ext4 finished in less than 30 seconds
[10:24] <Ben64> that isn't strange
[10:24] <akik> well for a 4 terabyte disk it is
[10:24] <ducasse> losh: because nobody has made one that they are willing to support/maintain?
[10:24] <Ben64> no, it isn't
[10:24] <akik> Ben64: so the default is to let it do the initialization in the background?
[10:24] <Ben64> no
[10:25] <Ben64> it doesn't take long to do a quick format, that's why it's called a quick format
[10:25] <akik> Ben64: what is a quick format? i've never seen that with mkfs
[10:26] <akik> mkfs.ext3
[10:26] <Ben64> where it just writes the stuff it needs to use the partition as <filesystem> and says the rest of the partition is empty
[10:29] <akik> superuser.com says that it's this option which enables that background processing "-E lazy_itable_init=1"
[10:30] <akik> http://superuser.com/questions/187783/how-long-does-it-usually-take-to-format-a-2tb-external-hd-using-ext4-and-gparted
[10:31] <Ben64> not the same thing
[10:31] <akik> Ben64: what's the quick format option in mkfs.ext4 ?
[10:32] <hateball> akik: Also if you're comparing ext3 and ext4... ext4 is so much faster in all kinds of operations
[10:32] <losh> ducasse, so it's not a technical issue, it's a maintainer resource issue?
[10:32] <qofcheez> hateball:  I can't figure out the name of the drive in other to mount it ass from '5542-B03D' either I'm being thick or not enough coffee
[10:32] <Ben64> it's all quick format using mkfs
[10:32] <KeyboardNotFound> When I started ubuntu I got error: the system started in low graphics mode, I have AMD graphics, can I specify to use my integrated intel graphics, I know tht ubuntu is having problems with AMD drivers. Please help, It's urgent!
[10:33] <hateball> qofcheez: usually mounting is done automatically, it should end up under /media/ somewhere
[10:34] <akik> Ben64: no
[10:34] <Ben64> yes
[10:34] <ducasse> losh: i have no idea what the problem is for that particular package, but it's likely that nobody has been willing to do the necessary work or not considered the package important enough.
[10:34] <qofcheez> that's the thing, I know there is a media folder but I can't find it.
[10:34] <akik> there's a ext4lazyinit process working in the background
[10:34] <hateball> !who | qofcheez
[10:34] <akik> there's no such thing as quick format for ext3 or ext4
[10:35] <Ben64> yes there is
[10:35] <Ben64> you don't know what you're talking about
[10:35] <hateball> qofcheez: Have you downloaded the files and are now trying to put them on a removable device of some sort?
[10:35] <akik> Ben64: so what's the option for it in mkfs.ext4?
 it's all quick format using mkfs
[10:35] <Ben64> it's like you're trying to be dense
[10:36] <akik> Ben64: no. you don't know what you are talking about
[10:36] <qofcheez> hate ball the files are on the usb now.  I can double click it but clicking the install button won't work, and I can't seem to find the usb in terminal
[10:36] <akik> Ben64: there's a background process initializing my usb disk and the activity light is blinking *constantly*
[10:36] <Ben64> akik: not quick format = write 4TB
[10:36] <akik> http://www.hecticgeek.com/2015/01/ext4-external-hard-disk-busy-at-idle-fix/
[10:36] <qofcheez> hateball
[10:37] <hateball> qofcheez: open terminal, type "cd /media"
[10:37] <Dandels> It's possible it didn't get automounted
[10:37] <hateball> qofcheez: and then "ls"
[10:37] <qofcheez> hateball I'm really thick this morning, forgot add / :/
[10:37] <KeyboardNotFound> When I started ubuntu I got error: the system started in low graphics mode, I have AMD graphics, can I specify to use my integrated intel graphics, I know tht ubuntu is having prob
[10:37] <liquid-silence> apt is horrible
[10:38] <Ben64> akik: "but it requires the kernel  to  finish  initializing the filesystem in the background when the filesystem is first mounted." so you mounted it
[10:38] <qofcheez> hateball on more question:  having trouble getting correct name of usb drive to mount it
[10:38] <hateball> qofcheez: use tab to autocomplete the path
[10:38] <losh> thanks for the info ducasse, i guess i'll have to package it myself then.  Cheers.
[10:38] <qofcheez> thank you
[10:38] <hateball> qofcheez: you should be able to just "cd <tab>"
[10:38] <k1l_> liquid-silence: any sort of proxy or vpn inbetween?
[10:39] <liquid-silence> k1l_  its a vagrant box, so I presume it does some weird nat stuff, but all other items update
[10:39] <ducasse> losh: you can see if there is a debian package, and ask to make it accessible in trusty-backports. you might be expected to do the work, though.
[10:40] <KeyboardNotFound> When I started ubuntu I got error: the system started in low graphics mode, I have AMD graphics, can I specify to use my integrated intel graphics, I know tht ubuntu is having prob
[10:40] <ducasse> !patience | KeyboardNotFound
[10:40] <liquid-silence> Fetched 23.7 MB in 49s (476 kB/s)
[10:40] <liquid-silence> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[10:40] <k1l_> liquid-silence: i dont know that vagrant stuff. i just see a lot of people in here having some issues that native installs dont have.
[10:41] <liquid-silence> k1l_
[10:41] <liquid-silence> its a virtualbox machine
[10:41] <liquid-silence> so I doubt its something weird
[10:41] <hateball> KeyboardNotFound: Have you looked in your BIOS? Some machines have muxless switching so you can tell it to only use one or the other card
[10:41] <liquid-silence> what is your idea regarding proxy?
[10:43] <KeyboardNotFound> how to reinstall gpu drivers?
[10:45] <hateball> KeyboardNotFound: can you paste the output of "lspci -k" when you start in low graphics mode? Open a terminal and run that command
[10:45] <hateball> !paste | KeyboardNotFound
[10:46] <ashmew2> Hi!
[10:46] <ashmew2> Can anyone help me with setting up an HDMI monitor ? I plug in the monitor via HDMI but get no display on it\
[10:47] <hateball> ashmew2: Is this a laptop? What GPU chipset/driver are you using?
[10:47] <ducasse> ashmew2: see if there is a button on the monitor to select the input
[10:48] <hateball> ducasse: Heh, good suggestion... I've made that mistake myself :o
[10:49] <ashmew2> hateball: yes it's a laptop. http://paste.ubuntu.com/18525753/ lspci output
[10:49] <ashmew2> ducasse: yes, it's set to HDMI1
[10:49] <ram___> Hi. Can I install OpenStack Liberty using the OpenStack Autopilot 15.01?
[10:49] <ashmew2> xrandr -q shows that HDMI-1-2 is connected, hateball ducasse
[10:49] <hateball> ashmew2: do you have a Fn+some key to switch outputs?
[10:50] <ashmew2> could be, sorry I've never done it before
[10:50] <ashmew2> Fn+F1 looks like it
[10:51] <Dandels> Does that imply you fixed the problem?
[10:52] <ram___> Hi. Can I install OpenStack Liberty using the OpenStack Autopilot ?
[10:52] <ashmew2> Sorry got booted
[10:52] <ducasse> ram___: ask in #ubuntu-server
[10:52] <ashmew2> As soon as I did Fn+F1, I did get a display on the monitor!
[10:53] <ashmew2> But it kept trying to adjust itself, and finally died, crashing my display and logging me out
[10:53] <ram___> ducasse: thank you
[10:54] <hateball> ashmew2: can you just use the regular monitor control thing to choose outputs? I dont run Unity myself, but I assume there is such a function in the GUI
[10:54] <ram___> Hi. Can I install OpenStack Liberty using the OpenStack Autopilot ?
[10:54] <ducasse> ashmew2: or install and run arandr
[10:54] <ashmew2> ram___: someone said #ubuntu-server, why are you back here?
[10:55] <ashmew2> hateball: do you mean the displays settings? It shows Display and Unknown Display
[10:55] <ashmew2> ducasse: arandr? Cool, I'll install it
[10:56] <hateball> ashmew2: yeah if it cant read EDID I guess it will show unknown display. as I said I dont run Unity
[10:56] <ducasse> ashmew2: or try 'xrandr --output HDMI-1-2 --auto'
[10:56] <ashmew2> hateball: ah, alright
[10:56] <ashmew2> ducasse: I did install arandr, it has a big label saying LVDS1 , (name of my primary display on laptop's monitor)
[10:57] <martinellis2>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:58] <ashmew2> ducasse: running xrandr failed with a zenity box "Could not switch fonguration CRTC 63"
[10:58] <ashmew2> That messed up my screen res though
[11:02] <HiDeHo> Hi all the picasa app is not showing in the repos
[11:02] <HiDeHo> i am on ubuntu 16.04 atm
[11:02] <qofcheez> hateball tried running them but amongst the list of this that comes up 'some problem occurred during the firmware download' is one of them
[11:04] <ashmew2> thanks ducasse , hateball
[11:04] <ashmew2> I have the display on the external monitor now
[11:04] <ashmew2> The Fn+F1 key did it somehow...after logging me out multiple times
[11:04] <hateball> :D
[11:05] <hateball> qofcheez: hmm ok. so what exact chipset do you have? run "lspci" in a terminal
[11:05] <ashmew2> but it lags a lot, if I take the mouse there, it lags and leaves  a trail behind it
[11:05] <ashmew2> Wrong refresh rate?
[11:05] <hateball> ashmew2: that could well be. what does xrandr say?
[11:06] <ashmew2> hateball: for primary laptop screen, refresh rate is 59.6*+
[11:06] <ashmew2> for HDMI-1-2, it is set to 60.0 +
[11:07] <ashmew2> hmm, I should learn how to read the xrandr output
[11:07] <qofcheez> .. hate ball just getting command not found
[11:07] <ashmew2> Should they be the same refresh rates?
[11:07] <qofcheez> .. hateball just getting command not found
[11:07] <hateball> qofcheez: then you are not typing it correctly
[11:08] <hateball> qofcheez: LSPCI with small letter. In case there is some confusion due to fonts.
[11:08] <qofcheez> got it, which one are you looking for hateball?
[11:09] <hateball> qofcheez: the row that is a network controller, broadcom, which you are trying to get working :)
[11:10] <qofcheez> 02:00.0 Network controller:  Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[11:10] <hateball> qofcheez: ok. then try downloading this http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/bcmwl-kernel-source/download instead of the other packages
[11:11] <ola> hi
[11:11] <Guest30560> hi
[11:12] <zenith_> command to show failure or success status of command ?
[11:12] <EriC^^> echo $?
[11:13] <qofcheez> hateball same command line as before or any changes?
[11:14] <hateball> qofcheez: nope, just "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>"
[11:14] <hateball> qofcheez: which you can tab-complete
[11:14] <Triffid_Hunter> EriC^^: heh I have that buried in my PROMPT_COMMAND variable :)
[11:14] <EriC^^> :)
[11:15] <zenith_> Eric^^ Does the number signifies the type of error if there is in failure?
[11:15] <zenith_> number from echo $?
[11:15] <Triffid_Hunter> zenith_: yes, it's program specific though, each program chooses its own return codes. 0 = success
[11:15] <EriC^^> zenith_: depends, usually 0 is success and 1 is failure, above 128 is a segfault i think
[11:15] <Triffid_Hunter> zenith_: basically it's the int returned from the program's main()
[11:17] <zenith_> so is this the way if statement works for as : if ! [ mkdir /boot ] then ...
[11:18] <qofcheez> hate ball error were encountered while processing bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:19] <qofcheez> hateball I can get graphic interface if I click directly on the file but nothing happens when I press install button
[11:19] <zenith_> but ! of any number is 0 then how is if block executed if it gets that signal number !
[11:19] <hateball> qofcheez: Yes, I believe the GUI thing is broken. Fixed with updates, but you need internet for that so.
[11:20] <hateball> qofcheez: Can you paste exact error you get when you try installing with dpkg ?
[11:20] <qofcheez> will try to post screenshot give me a minute to figure out where I can upload it to
[11:20] <zenith_> because if <block> is executed if signal is for it !
[11:20] <hateball> qofcheez: also how come you have no ethernet access to your router or whatever?
[11:21] <hateball> qofcheez: imgur.com is nice
[11:21] <warpx> Anyone around with Thunderbolt networking experience?
[11:21] <bazhang> warpx, is that some sort of Mac technology
[11:21] <warpx> Intel
[11:22] <warpx> And yeah, Apple is drinking it
[11:22] <bazhang> warpx, hows that realte to ubuntu
[11:22] <warpx> Mostly, that I'm contemplating to fit my servers with TB cards
[11:22] <warpx> And I'd like to know if and how I'd configure the interfaces
[11:23] <bazhang> warpx, you could try ##hardware and #ubuntu-server I suppose
[11:23] <warpx> It's a couple of collocated bare metal machines that either could get more NIC
[11:23] <warpx> OR get one more TB card and save 40 NIC
[11:25] <warpx> Thank you bazhang, I'll try
[11:25] <bazhang> welcome
[11:26] <count> moin moin
[11:26] <warpx> moin
[11:27] <count> I'm seeing a weird issue with Xenical, both on kernel 4.4.0-28 and 3.19.0-61 .. with swap enabled, the system "freezes" when running a mem-heavy process. without swap, nothing bad (but OOM) happens.
[11:27] <count> how can I debug something like that better?
[11:27] <qofcheez> here you go hateball http://imgur.com/f8J76z
[11:28] <qofcheez> sorry hateball http://imgur.com/f8J76zp
[11:29] <count> (it never recovers)
[11:30] <Muftware>  I am not able to modify any file in the directory /etc/default.
[11:30] <Muftware> In that directory's default properties->permissions, its showing that "You are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions."
[11:31] <Rejun> Hi, help Next error
[11:31] <Muftware> Can anyone tell me, hoe to  modify file in the /etc/default/ directory??
[11:33] <Zaitzev> Muftware: if you have to ask, you shouldn't really be messing with those files.. but you have to be superuser
[11:33] <liquid-silence> can anyone here do a sudo apt-get update on trusty 64?
[11:34] <hateball> qofcheez: ugh. that must be something new... iirc you only needed the bcmwl-kernel-source package for an offline install. hmmm.
[11:34] <hateball> qofcheez: so again, why are you not able to get an ethernet connection?
[11:34] <vivek__> I have installed 16.04 in my main machine
[11:34] <vivek__> and there is no audio in it
[11:35] <zenith_> My terminal stopped showing stdin content !
[11:35] <qofcheez> I'm on holiday in Canada and my mother does not have an ehternet cable. in about two hours the mall opens and I can buy one though,but I have limit time
[11:35] <zenith_> Help
[11:35] <vivek__> i can't hear anything from anywhere ex. youtube soundcloud mp3 files
[11:35] <count> zenith_: type 'reset', that'll reset your terminal
[11:35] <count> zenith_: if you don't know whether there's anything else on the line, use ctrl-u first
[11:36] <qofcheez> hateball if I could get an ethernet cable, get it to work, what's the process?
[11:36] <zenith_> ctrl U doesn't shows up anything
[11:36] <hateball> qofcheez: plug it in the router, the use the GUI to enable the driver
[11:37] <Rejun> Please help error mount disk cdlive ubuntu capture send.http://www.pastefile.com/DKNk1I
[11:37] <qofcheez> through software and updates? hateball
[11:37] <hateball> qofcheez: yep, where you were earlier
[11:37] <Rejun> http://www.pastefile.com/DKNk1I
[11:37] <zenith_> well i used a command as $(command) to know what output it shows as i needed to use in scripting !
[11:38] <hateball> qofcheez: there's manual ways of extracting the firmware but it's just... hard to explain over IRC like this. It's really much better if you just hook up ethernet and use the builtin functions for it :)
[11:38] <qofcheez> if you're still online then and it works, I swear I'll have to send you cupcakes or somethign
[11:39] <zenith_> Do anyone know what signal is sent when a command is executed but there is some error in argument or perimeter ?
[11:39] <hateball> qofcheez: oh wait !
[11:39] <Rejun> http://www.pastefile.com/DKNk1I
[11:39] <HiDeHo> anyone got an idea why software center has not apps in 16.04
[11:39]  * qofcheez waits with baited breath
[11:39] <hateball> qofcheez: I didnt read properly on your screenshot, you are missing dkms
[11:40] <zenith_> like: telnet <ip_addr> and the address is unreachable then what type signals signify this ?
[11:40] <ducasse> Rejun: read the message, it tells you what to do
[11:41] <hateball> qofcheez: so grab yet another package and install that first http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/dkms/download
[11:43] <Rejun> Speak spanish please
[11:43] <hateball> !es | Rejun
[11:44] <hateball> qofcheez: and remove the bw43 packages, you dont need those to be installed
[11:44] <hateball> qofcheez: only dkms first, then the bcmwl package
[11:45] <vivek__> I have installed 16.04 in my main machine
[11:45] <vivek__> i can't hear anything from anywhere ex. youtube soundcloud mp3 files
[11:45] <vivek__> and there is no audio in it
[11:45] <Rejun> Tankyou
[11:46] <qofcheez> hateball rep you might be a bit ahead of me.  Easy way to uninstall those?
[11:47] <hateball> qofcheez: they are not installed. just remove them from your thumbdrive or whatever storage you are using
[11:47] <hateball> qofcheez: instead of installing *.deb, point to the specific packages. as you need to install dkms first.
[11:47] <qofcheez> ah gotcha
[11:48] <zenith_> There is an error redirection operator like &> . Can anybody justify its usage ?
[11:48] <zenith_> Please
[11:48] <anddam> zenith_: sure, #bash
[11:48] <leeyaa> hi
[11:49] <leeyaa> can anyone tell me if any of these is not used? im a bit confused https://bpaste.net/show/4f7321bc6e59
[11:49] <anddam> zenith_: are you asking why such an operator exists?
[11:49] <zenith_> no I need to redirect error from command in a script !
[11:50] <ducasse> leeyaa: that's the kernel you are running, yes
[11:50] <conan_> hi
[11:50] <leeyaa> ducasse: yeah but is any of the headers not being used ?
[11:50] <leeyaa> not sure how to check it out
[11:50] <leeyaa> need to remove unused crap
[11:50] <anddam> zenith_: ok, and are you having an issue while trying that?
[11:50] <ducasse> zenith_: ask in #bash, this is not the proper place
[11:50] <leeyaa> i can see some minor version differences
[11:50] <defekt> zenith_: echo "bleh" >/dev/null
[11:51] <leeyaa> dont ever redirect to null it silly ;p
[11:51] <qofcheez> hateball is getting to a screen showing configuring secure boot normal?  I seem to remember i should say yes
[11:51] <ducasse> leeyaa: you didn't list the header packages
[11:51] <qofcheez> to disable it that it
[11:51] <hateball> leeyaa: "apt-get autoremove" will remove unneeded packages
[11:51] <anddam> defekt: he's talking about redirecting stderr so it'd be fd 2
[11:51] <zenith_> defekt : what's echo "bleh" >/dev/null for ?
[11:52] <anddam> zenith_: you're uncooperative in receiving help
[11:52] <leeyaa> hateball: autoremov wants to get rid of packages i need
[11:52] <leeyaa> some
[11:52] <hateball> qofcheez: euh....go with the default for now
[11:54] <vivek__> anddam, will you pls help me mate
[11:54] <qofcheez> hate ball the proprietary driver is now in use after rebooting but no network devices available is still showing
[11:55] <rbern> Hi, I dont regurarly use Ubuntu, I use debian, but while developing a project of mine (http://github.com/rbern/debroot) I'm facing a doubt: ubuntu, as oposed to debian, does upgrade the kernel version during a release cycle? I ask this because when I run an "apt-get upgrade" apt says it will keep files from upgrading, linux-image-generic being one of them. If I don't upgrade the kernel version I dont get new kernel security updates? TY and sorry for long
[11:55] <rbern>  question.
[11:55] <hateball> qofcheez: if you run "lspci -k" what does it say for the broadcom card?
[11:56] <k1l_> leeyaa: can you show the output of autoremove?
[11:56] <hateball> rbern: security updates are backported. with LTS releases you also have the options of using a newer LTS-kernels for hardware support purposes etc
[11:56] <leeyaa> k1l_: yeah one sec
[11:57] <hateball> qofcheez: and if you run "iwlist scan" there's nothing showing?
[11:57] <leeyaa> k1l_: here is the output: https://bpaste.net/show/47f650ece6bd from these I know for sure I need the nodejs package. but considering i want to keep one - there might be more.
[11:58] <qofcheez> network controller:  broadcom coporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) DeviceName: Broadcom Nami 43142 bgn 1x1 + BT 4 LE PCIe+usb NGFF 1630 MOW SubsystemL Hewlett Packard company BCM 43142 802.11b.g.n Kernel modules: bcma, wl  hateball
[11:59] <hateball> qofcheez: then it has loaded the proper drivers yes
[11:59] <qofcheez> hateball 'interface doesn't support scanning'
[11:59] <hateball> hmmm
[11:59] <hateball> qofcheez: ok, try "rfkill list"
[12:00] <hateball> qofcheez: see if anything is blocked
[12:00] <k1l_> leeyaa: hmm, i would run the updates fist
[12:00] <rbern> ty hateball. if security upgrades are backported the fact that linux-image-generic not being upgraded means that there were no security updates since April? sorry for my confusion.
[12:00] <k1l_> *first
[12:00] <leeyaa> k1l_: update or upgrade (note i dont want to upgrade)
[12:00] <qofcheez> no soft or hard block, but it's talking about bluetooth  hateball
[12:01] <k1l_> leeyaa: both. why dont you want to upgrade the packages? apt full-upgrade will not bring you to a new ubuntu release but makes sure all security updates are installed
[12:01] <leeyaa> k1l_: because it is out of scope atm
[12:01] <leeyaa> it would be a big project
[12:02] <leeyaa> i usually keep the system up to date by installing just security updates
[12:02] <leeyaa> and it still needs to be qaed
[12:04] <the_newbie> helo
[12:05] <k1l_> leeyaa: well, its your call. for the autoremove issue: you might have removed a metapackage which installed all these  and now they are marked as unused. you can manually mark them with "apt install package"
[12:06] <hateball> rbern: that package is just a meta-package that points to the latest kernel which is linux-image-4.4.0-28-generic
[12:06] <leeyaa> k1l_: thats plausible. you mean if i review the list, install all packages i want manually the next autoremove should skip them, correct ?
[12:07] <k1l_> yes
[12:07] <hateball> rbern: as for the release date I dont recall when it was last updated, but it's recently
[12:07] <leeyaa> makes sense. thanks!
[12:07] <leeyaa> its good since ill be able to free some 100-200MB and i need to keep the system's / on 1GB or 2GB
[12:07] <rbern> hateball, yes, now it is 4.4.0-28 but when xenial was -21. I'm upgrading and its downloading from security.
[12:08] <rbern> I guess thats the normal behavior. Debian stable sticks to the same kernel version the whole release cycle.
[12:08] <rbern> ty hateball
[12:09] <k1l_> rbern: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_<IP_ADDRESS>.30/changelog
[12:09] <k1l_> rbern: so does ubuntu. one release = one kernel base. except for the LTS where you can use the backported kernel and xorg from the hardware enablement stack
[12:13] <rbern> k1l_, ty. so it's the kernel ABI that is upgraded, the kernel version will always be 4.4.0 if I dont enable backports. Got it.
[12:14] <rbern> is there an shortcut command to auto remove old kernel packages?
[12:15] <qofcheez> hey hateball any thoughts?  will the ethernet ideally still potentially work at this point, or is that now off the table
[12:15] <k1l_> rbern: sudo apt autoremove
[12:16] <leeyaa> hm how to regenerate /etc/mtab ?
[12:16] <leeyaa> i made changes to /etc/fstab but system still boots from old volumes
[12:16] <pa> will 16.04.1 have Qt 5.6 ?
[12:16] <hateball> qofcheez: well it'd at least let you install updates... in case there's some other bug preventing this from working
[12:16] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I found that a supposed workaround to the disk problem I have is to use the kernel boot parameter "libata.force=noncq". Sysadmin told me to add that to /boot/grub/grub.cfg. That file, in turn, says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE", "It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub". Looking at those, I have NO idea at all what's going on. So how *do* I specify that boot parameter, the Ubun
[12:16] <Schwarzbaer> tu way?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:17] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: edit /etc/default/grub
[12:17] <k1l_> pa: no
[12:17] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: you'll see the line with "quiet splash", just add libata.force=noncq there
[12:17] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: add them to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub line and run update-grub
[12:18] <hateball> and yea ^
[12:18] <paranoidabhi> how to do you report a upstream bug in ubuntu?
[12:18] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: Take it you've got a samsung ssd?
[12:18] <qofcheez> ok I'll take a rest and get a cable when the shop open.  I've been at this for hours and hours now.  my brain is fried. thanks hateball
[12:18] <rbern> k1l_, it doent work. from google one has to uninstall kernels packages manually. its a problem when upgrading a live cd but I'll work around this. ty hateball and k1l_ . Cheers.
[12:18] <pa> k1l_, ah, i thought that in addition to kernel changes, also system libraries can be changed with these .X releases
[12:18] <paranoidabhi> Can sum1 please tell which mailing list I should mail? Reference in context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428/comments/23
[12:19] <pa> and qt5.6lts sounded quite alright for an ubuntu lts :-)
[12:19] <k1l_> rbern: on which ubuntu release are you?
[12:19] <rbern> xenial
[12:19] <k1l_> rbern: that should remove old kernels automatically when installing the updated kernels.
[12:19] <k1l_> rbern: can you give more details?
[12:20] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: the linux-pci list
[12:20] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, what is the email?
[12:21] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: google "linux-pci mailing list"
[12:21] <rbern> k1l_, "apt-get autoremove" returns "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.""
[12:22] <k1l_> rbern: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999" please show that url
[12:22] <ubuntu428> hI
[12:22] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, sry I can't make it out http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-pci
[12:22] <ubuntu428> Greyback: please help to install 12.04 on x3100 m5
[12:22] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: click the "subscribe" link
[12:23] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, I don't want to subscribe is the problem
[12:23] <ubuntu428> paranoidabhi : May i chat with you
[12:23] <paranoidabhi> ubuntu428, sure
[12:23] <ubuntu428> I am facing x3100 M5 with raid 1 installation problem
[12:23] <rbern> k1l_, http://termbin.com/c9cu.
[12:23] <k1l_> ubuntu428: if you name the details people will try to help
[12:24] <ubuntu428> ok
[12:24] <k1l_> rbern: so you got 2 kernels installed. which is fine.
[12:25] <Schwarzbaer> hateball, no idea, will check...
[12:25] <ducasse> paranoidabhi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:26] <ubuntu428> how to change name
[12:26] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, thanks so much!! Say I am using gmail, how I endure the message body is text only.
[12:26] <ibba> roomies
[12:27] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: i don't use gmail, no idea.
[12:27] <the> hi
[12:27] <ibba> running
[12:27] <ibba> root@ns1:~# lsb_release -a
[12:27] <ibba> No LSB modules are available.
[12:27] <ibba> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:27] <ibba> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[12:27] <ibba> Release:        14.04
[12:27] <rbern> k1l_, yes, but I wanted to upgrade a livecd so, for size matters, only one should be installed. syslinux doesnt allow to choose kernels, as grub does. No problem.  The problem is if there are 2 kernels. But that's solved in my tool. It's just the question of removing the old kernel.
[12:30] <ducasse> vivek__: run pavucontrol and check that the right output is selected and not muted.
[12:30] <Schwarzbaer> hateball, ducasse, so, like this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash libata.force=noncq"
[12:31] <rbern> k1l_, manually, of course
[12:31] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: yep :)
[12:31] <MarkusNaslund> hejj hateball
[12:31] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: was just out of curiosity, I have samsung which are common to have that issue. but I know others have it as well so
[12:31] <hateball> Schwarzbaer: and yea that looks fine
[12:31] <Schwarzbaer> hateball, so it's not actually a software problem, but a true hardware/hardware incompatibility?
[12:32] <madhu__> Hi
[12:32] <adsf> anyone else have loads of mdadm issues after upgrades?
[12:33] <vlt> ashmew2: Yes.
[12:33] <vlt> ashmew2: sorry
[12:33] <madhu__> keeran: may I communicate with you
[12:33] <adsf> hehe
[12:33] <vlt> adsf: ^
[12:33] <adsf> :)
[12:33] <adsf> my array just refuses to mount, doesnt seem like any drives are dead
[12:33] <paranoidabhi> what does upstream mean?
[12:33] <vlt> adsf: cat /proc/mdstat
[12:33] <madhu__> Hi paranoidabhi
[12:34] <madhu__> I quited to change my name
[12:34] <adsf> vlt: nada cus assemble says 2 drives are missing
[12:34] <madhu__> I trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on x3100 M5 with bios  raid 1.
[12:35] <madhu__> array creating readonly and unable to write partition info on disk
[12:35] <leeyaa> k1l_: lol apparently nodejs was marked as unused because i had stopped the service - how silly
[12:35] <ducasse> madhu__: have you tried software raid?
[12:35] <paranoidabhi> madhu__, I don't know man! I am caught in messy ubuntu bug tracking.
[12:35] <leeyaa> weirdly enough apache was stopped too, but it was not marked as unused
[12:35] <madhu__> Ducasse : it is working on sw raid
[12:35] <leeyaa> not sure how this is supposed to be working
[12:36] <madhu__> Ducasse : trying to install bios raid 1
[12:36] <ducasse> madhu__: then use that. bios raid is usually crap.
[12:36] <madhu__> Ducasse : to know the problem. I explalin the problem
[12:37] <madhu__> Ducasse : raid 1 is creaing but array in readonly. partition not storing on disk. saying that operaiton not permitted to write
[12:37] <vivek__> oi ducasse thanks mate
[12:38] <ibba> setting up a dns server
[12:38] <ducasse> madhu__: yes, bios raid is crap and known to cause problems - use mdadm instead.
[12:38] <madhu__> Ducasse : x3100 M5 new server
[12:38] <ibba> Cannot reach beyond the GW on vmware player :(
[12:38] <madhu__> Ducasse : ok
[12:40] <adsf> vlt: so it seems to think one of the drives is inactive now
[12:40] <adsf> vlt: md0 : inactive sdd1[3](S) sdc[2](S) sda[0](S) sdb[1](S)
[12:40] <adsf> and lots of spares it seems
[12:42] <adsf> examine output https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a3103bf22f18cb262176dcf0a3c322e9
[12:42] <leeyaa> nice, now i can fit into 1.5GB /
[12:43] <madhu__> Ducasse : what is /dev/md126_raid1
[12:44] <ducasse> madhu__: i'm guessing that is your bios raid device
[12:45] <madhu__> Ducasse : understand it is in Readonly Mode.
[12:45] <ducasse> madhu__: i understand that.
[12:46] <madhu__> Ducasse : Because partition info is not saving on hdds.
[12:46] <Schwarzbaer> How can I check with what parameters the currently running kernel was started? 'Cause apparently, *that did nothing* with regards to my problem.
[12:47] <ducasse> madhu__: no, it won't if the device is read only. this might be a problem with your bios raid, i can't help you with that. i've told you what to do instead, and it's a much better solution.
[12:48] <ducasse> Schwarzbaer: cat /proc/cmdline
[12:49] <Schwarzbaer> Thanks... Yeah, libata.force=noncq, but I still got a very similar error, and BOOM, FS is read-only.
[12:49] <vishvajeet> hello can someone tell me why my usb modem is not detected?It is visible in lsusb but gnome-ppp says modem not found
[12:50] <madhu__> Ducasse : thanks. I am trying to understand the concepts
[12:51] <ducasse> madhu__: i strongly recommend you not waste more time on bios raid.
[12:52] <vishvajeet> How can we find dev path of usb modem
[12:52] <vishvajeet> ?
[12:52] <madhu__> Ducasse : I am going to install sw raid only
[12:53] <madhu__> Ducasse : thanks for the suppor
[12:53] <ducasse> madhu__: do that, it's much better.
[12:54] <madhu__> Dicasse : Where to  get  documentation if any problem occur
[12:56] <ducasse> madhu__: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID - there is also a page on mdadm on the debian wiki, probably the arch wiki too
[13:01] <wh0ami> Hi Ukraine !
[13:01] <madhu__> Ducasse : The documentation is useful. Thank you
[13:01] <wh0ami> Или русс
[13:02] <wh0ami> Who have aircrack-ng sources give ne a link
[13:02] <wh0ami> Me**
[13:03] <ducasse> madhu__: this looks good: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RAID
[13:08] <madhu__> Ducasse : Thanks again. I am studying the article
[13:10] <ducasse> madhu__: you're welcome. you will also find it much easier to get support for mdadm raid.
[13:12] <zteam> wh0ami, sudo apt-get source aircrack-ng
[13:13] <zteam> wh0ami, ?
[13:13] <wh0ami> Thanks!
[13:13] <EonUmbreon> Hi... I am running Ubuntu GNOME.
[13:13] <EonUmbreon> I just removed plymouth, and now GDM wont startx when I hit log in
[13:13] <Qommand0r> EonUmbreon: good
[13:13] <EonUmbreon> However
[13:14] <EonUmbreon> If I open a TTY and run startx, it is fine
[13:14] <EonUmbreon> Any ideas?
[13:14] <zteam> wh0ami, I have not checked if the source package for aircrack-ng is in the repo but if it is, that command should get it for you :-)
[13:14] <Guest89955> Hi all im back last week i had really messed up pc from installing windows 10 that and then Ubuntu Mate that messed up all my loader i was not able to boot into bios or make any f keys work from bios and boot , so i took my self patient did google ubuntu low level formatt commands from Terminal  , and finally did remove Ubuntu Mate , then i did usb key boot and nuke and did low level formatt and bang here i am with shiny new windows
[13:15] <EonUmbreon> This is a fresh install too, I just didnt want plymouth installed :/
[13:15] <zteam> EonUmbreon,try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:16] <EonUmbreon> zteam ok will do :) I am just upgrading my software from apt, so I cant call dpkg till that has done. Will give it a try in a second :)
[13:16] <Guest89955> so thanks all who supported me i did this all by intuition
[13:16] <Guest89955> ##hardware
[13:17] <madhu__> Ducasse : Ok
[13:17] <philm88> I'm running cron in the foreground with; cron -f in a docker container. Is there a way to get it to output log info to stderr/stdout too?
[13:17] <EonUmbreon> philm88 tee?
[13:18] <philm88> EonUmbreon: I'm not seeing any output from cron -f - so nothing for tee to redirect
[13:18] <EonUmbreon> philm88 oh. Um... I will have a think
[13:19] <zteam> EonUmbreon, :-)
[13:20] <philm88> EonUmbreon: thanks (:
[13:21] <ducasse> philm88: i think you can set rsyslog up to output messages from cron to the console - would that work?
[13:21] <EonUmbreon> It is weird cause if I uninstall plymouth it removes lightdm and if I remove gdm it installs plymouth and lightdm again :D
[13:21] <EonUmbreon> ** :S
[13:23] <philm88> ducasse: potentially - I'll take a look. Although, this is in a docker container and my understanding of docker containers is they're generally not meant to be running too much in terms of background services like rsyslog
[13:23] <liaoan> hello
[13:23] <zteam> EonUmbreon, if you have aptitude installed you can ask it why it want to remove or install a certain package
[13:26] <zteam> EonUmbreon, if not you can install it by just running sudo apt-get install aptitude
[13:26] <EonUmbreon> It is apparently because of Nvidia drivers requiring it..but i dunno why
[13:26] <zteam> EonUmbreon, now can run aptitutude why plymouth
[13:27] <EonUmbreon> Oh.  It logged in ^.^
[13:27] <EonUmbreon> Yay!
[13:28] <zteam> EonUmbreon, you can also use aptitude to ask why it not like install a certain package, with aptitude why-not packagename
[13:28] <EonUmbreon>  Oh nice! thank you!
[13:28] <EonUmbreon> Do you know why grub would not want to let me give keyboard input?
[13:29] <neufeld> Asi
[13:29] <m1dnight_> Im looking around to get ubuntu dual booted on my macbook. What would be the most stable way?
[13:29] <Guest32468> my soundcard dont work in mint cinnemon, help ?
[13:29] <neufeld> Whats your name
[13:29] <zteam> EonUmbreon, bascially aptitude is like apt-get on steroids (but it's a little bit less automatic)
[13:29] <Guest32468> Ola
[13:29] <Palm_premium> m1dnight_: I would be interested in this as well
[13:30] <neufeld> no
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <neufeld> s
[13:30] <wh0ami> Hacked<PHONE_NUMBER>4419~48824*
[13:30] <EriC^^> !mac | m1dnight_ Palm_premium
[13:30] <m1dnight_> I have found a document from cal-tech people. I will give that a shot and report back I guess.
[13:30] <EonUmbreon> zteam ah ok! I am used to using apt ._. I never understood what aptitude could do that apt didnt. Thanlk you!
[13:30] <Palm_premium> ubottu: Thank you
[13:30] <EriC^^> m1dnight_: refind is easiest
[13:31] <Guest32468> my soundcard dont work in mint cinnemon, help ?
[13:31] <k1l_> !mint | Guest32468
[13:31] <zteam> EonUmbreon, NP :-)
[13:32] <Pantsu> Guest32468: also fix your nick
[13:32] <Guest32468> ok
[13:33] <nindustries> Hi, will the new ubuntu server distribution have ZFS as a boot option ?
[13:33] <nindustries> I'd like encrypted zfs pool like in the BSD installer
[13:42] <newfield> hi
[13:42] <newfield> can i help you
[13:44] <newfield> moin
[13:53] <chefshoes> hey
[13:53] <Guest21468> exit
[13:53] <Guest21468> exit
[13:56] <Indrek> How is it possible that when my barman backup is 50gig, wal is 30gig then restore takes more than 120gb space ?
[13:56] <ducasse> nindustries: zfs is only supported for data storage
[13:56] <nindustries> ahh :/ thanks ducasse
[13:57] <m1dnight_> Just to be sure, I can use a *regular* ISO for this dual boot, right?
[13:57] <m1dnight_> Because this tutorial briefly mentions "Mac version".
[13:58] <computer> people, i have installed a program with sudo apt-get install, how do i check that it was installed?
[13:58] <ducasse> Indrek: i assume the backup is compressed
[13:58] <lyze>  computer, sudo dpkg -l | grep <program>
[13:59] <lyze> (lowercase L )
[13:59] <Indrek> WAL compression ratio: 73.42% ?
[14:00] <wh0ami> Yes
[14:01] <lyze> m1dnight_, just do the thing in mac to create a partition for ubuntu then install it normally via the iso
[14:01] <m1dnight_> Okay. I figured as much.
[14:01] <ducasse> Indrek: you could probably get better help in a postgresql channel
[14:01] <m1dnight_> Thanks for the confirmation.
[14:01] <mauriciv> computer: you can also try dpkg -s <package-name>
[14:02] <Indrek> mhh, i thought im there i had wrong channel active :)
[14:03] <mauriciv> computer: that way you get autocomplete :)
[14:08] <computer> lyze: mauriciv thanks , lyze in you example if i get a red coloured redout it means i have the package installed, if no readout it means it is not installed correct?
[14:08] <lyze> computer, corret. you can ignore the colors, it's just to highlight the search thing
[14:09] <computer> lyze: thanks :-)
[14:09] <lyze> computer, basically "dpkg -l" lists all packages and "| grep <name>" redirects the output to grep, which is a search tool and that tool finds the <name> and lists it when it has found something
[14:13] <lyze> computer, http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=sudo+dpkg+-l+%7C+grep+test
[14:14] <computer> lyze: excllent
[14:14] <mmaheu>  /SET autocreate_query_level DCCMSGS
[14:20] <temhaa> hello
[14:20] <cuboid> temhaa: Hello
[14:20] <temhaa> What is url for network install of ubuntu
[14:21] <cuboid> temhaa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[14:21] <cuboid> temhaa: I think that is it
[14:23] <temhaa> cuboid: actually I am new in kvm. I installed that. It's asking netowrk install url to install guest machine
[14:24] <abolfazl123> I install remastersys in my ubuntu.when i make a remaster of my linux and i want test that it didn't work.my virtual box said:"FATAL:No bootable medium found!System halted."what's the wrong?
[14:26] <ducasse> abolfazl123: the image is clearly not bootable.
[14:26] <abolfazl123> so what i should do?
[14:26] <k1l_> is remastersys still a thing. thought it was dead
[14:26] <ducasse> abolfazl123: ask the makers of remastersys
[14:27] <abolfazl123> ducasse:are u kidding it's a dead project:|
[14:27] <ducasse> abolfazl123: then why are you even using it?
[14:27] <lyze> Just use a normal backup software instead?
[14:28] <abolfazl123> what is your recommend?
[14:29] <lyze> Im not backing up my system ... Im just syncing stuff I need to the cloud and that's it, you might want to ask somebody who creates some ^^
[14:30] <abolfazl123> ducasse:do know a good remastering tools for ubuntu(i googleing a lot for found remastersys...)
[14:32] <abolfazl123> ducasse: do you know a good remastering tools for ubuntu(i googleing a lot for found remastersys...)
[14:32] <k1l_> !info uck | abolfazl123
[14:33] <k1l_> abolfazl123: or use the pinguy fork of remastersys
[14:33] <cuboid> temhaa: I will look into it now
[14:35] <cuboid> temhaa: Does it need to be network install, or can you do it via ISO image?
[14:36] <ducasse> temhaa: which interface to kvm are you using?
[14:38] <cwolf> how would i go about replacing the software center in 16.04? it's horrible, but i can't find its package name in order to uninstall it.
[14:38] <ducasse> cwolf: it's called gnome-software
[14:40] <cwolf> thank you! is there a different software center i can install, or is synaptic package manager all i need?
[14:40] <ducasse> cwolf: apt or synaptic :)
[14:40] <cwolf> thanks, ducasse
[14:40] <ducasse> cwolf: np
[14:43] <cuboid> temhaa: Should be able to use the http option and use a relevant download link from ubuntu.com e.g. http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:51] <m1dnight_> I messed up with the dual boot :p :<
[14:57] <lyze> m1dnight_, nuu, what did you doß
[14:57] <lyze>  / what happens?
[14:57] <m1dnight_> For some reason I don't have an EFI partition. I did remove a small partition in GParted (when Ubuntu used to boot). I did so because I could no longer startup Refind.
[14:57] <m1dnight_> I googled that and the person said "remove the very first small partition"
[14:57] <m1dnight_> Which I did :< I should have not done that :p
[14:57] <lyze> Nope you shouldn't have done that x)
[14:57] <m1dnight_> Now when I try to run refind it says "Can not find efi partition"
[14:58] <lyze> Yeah
[14:58] <m1dnight_> Which probably was the one I deleted :>
[14:58] <lyze> because you deleted it ^^
[14:58] <m1dnight_> So now Im kinda stuck. I can't find much on google.
[14:58] <lyze> Well
[14:59] <lyze> what you could do is use grub or another bootloader for both, mac and ubuntu
[14:59] <lyze> if ubuntu still works ^^
[14:59] <m1dnight_> No, I can only boot into OSX now :D
[14:59] <lyze> Oh
[14:59] <m1dnight_> Damn my incompetence
[14:59] <lyze> Then I guess you could try to install it again ^^
[15:00] <lyze> Can't help you though sicne I need to go, sorry x)
[15:00] <m1dnight_> Yeah, that's what's not working.
[15:00] <m1dnight_> Ill give the manual install another shot. And worst case I can reinstall my OSX and start over.
[15:00] <ducasse> m1dnight_: you should just need to create a new efi partition and reinstall your boot manager
[15:01] <m1dnight_> ducasse: Might be a dumb question, but what partition scheme does an EFI partition have?
[15:02] <ducasse> m1dnight_: it needs to be a fat32 partition with code ef00
[15:07] <cuboid> temhaa: Success?
[15:11] <freedom> How do I start ftp server on public ip ?
[15:11] <freedom> Not on inet !
[15:12] <freedom> sorry including inet
[15:12] <freedom> Anybody alive ?
[15:12] <Pici> freedom: johnny five is alive
[15:13] <m00n_urn> hey!
[15:13] <freedom> !ot > Pici
[15:13] <Pici> freedom: it should be started on your public ip, you'll need to forward from your router or work with your sysadmin so you can access it from the outside
[15:15] <freedom> No I am on ubuntu and need to configure vsftpd.conf for that !
[15:15] <freedom> So just require help for that !
[15:16] <freedom> ?
[15:16] <freedom> vsftpd.conf by default doesn't enables ftp on public ip  ! Isn't it Pici
[15:19] <Pici> freedom: let me double check my config here
[15:19] <paranoidabhi> my desktop manager boot is really slow. How can I check from the logs what is causing it?
[15:20] <Pici> freedom: what do you have listen set to in vsftpd.conf?
[15:20] <freedom> NO
[15:20] <freedom> listen=NO
[15:21] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: which ubuntu version?
[15:21] <Pici> freedom: okay, so you are setup to use the inetd way, if you switch it to YES, it will run in standalone mode and not require inetd.
[15:22] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, 16.04
[15:22] <m00n_urn> bash: /usr/local/bin/: /bin/zsh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[15:22] <m00n_urn> what do i do
[15:22] <Pici> m00n_urn: what are you trying to do?
[15:23] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: 'systemd-analyze blame'
[15:23] <m00n_urn> i'm trying to run a program
[15:23] <freedom> Pici means that will listen from public by default ?
[15:23] <darsparx_> ok anyone here have any experience with msmtp on 16.04? It keeps ignoring my user config....
[15:24] <freedom> and in standalone mode will it not be accessible from internal network ?
[15:24] <Pici> freedom: it will be accessable from both the internal and external (assuming you have port fowarding setup).  If you still can't get to it from outside, be sure to set listen_address to <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:25] <paranoidabhi> ducasse, any guesses on what the problem is http://paste.ubuntu.com/18551529/?
[15:26] <ducasse> paranoidabhi: that list is sorted by startup time for each service, so the ones on the top are the ones slowing the boot down.
[15:26] <m1dnight_> Damn OSX crap. My live usb stick won't boot either.
[15:27] <m1dnight_> In recovery mode it doesn't allow me to be unmount my main disk either.
[15:27] <m00n_urn> Pici: a bash script to be exact
[15:27] <Pici> m00n_urn: what does the first line of the script say?
[15:27] <m00n_urn> it say zsh
[15:27] <m00n_urn> i changed it to bash
[15:28] <m00n_urn> but then itthrows too many errors
[15:28] <Pici> m00n_urn: install the zsh package then: sudo apt install zsh
[15:29] <m00n_urn> Pici: will it work?
[15:30] <Pici> m00n_urn: try it
[15:30] <m00n_urn> cool
[15:30] <Pici> m00n_urn: its a small package and won't interfere with anything else
[15:30] <m00n_urn> all right
[15:32] <m00n_urn> and i get a "Error: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted" when i try to mount a file
[15:33] <cuboid> m00n_urn: It is throwing an error, probably because it requires permissions to do the mounting (normally with sudo)
[15:33] <ducasse> m00n_urn: are you a member of the fuse group?
[15:33] <python90210> jo
[15:33] <Pici> cuboid: fuser doesn't necessarily require sudo
[15:33] <m00n_urn> cuboid: i am #
[15:33] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Try adding user_allow_other to your /etc/fuse.conf
[15:33] <m00n_urn> ducasse: when i try #groups all it shows is root so no
[15:34] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: And making sure the directory you are trying to mount to is owned by you.
[15:34] <m00n_urn> yes it is
[15:34] <cuboid> Pici: Ah okay
[15:37] <m1dnight_> ducasse: Success! Created an EFI partition with fdisk via a live disk (because recovery did not allow it) and then reinstalled refined using the installer and it works fine :)
[15:37] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: still the same i've uncommented the line too in /etc/fuse.conf
[15:38] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: When you added yourself to the fuse group, did you then log out and back in?
[15:38] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: added myself? as in...
[15:39] <ducasse> m1dnight_: great! :)
[15:40] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: type "id". Do you see "fuse" in there anywhere?
[15:40] <m00n_urn> nope
[15:41] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: sudo adduser $USER fuse
[15:41] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: done!
[15:41] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Now log out and then back in (or reboot)
[15:42] <m00n_urn> Error: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted
[15:42] <m00n_urn> the same error!
[15:42] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Because you didn't relog.
[15:42] <m00n_urn> ofcourse i did
[15:43] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: You logged out of your entire X session?
[15:43] <ducasse> m00n_urn: do you have rights to mount on the target dir?
[15:43] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: You're on Hexchat, so I doubt it. :/
[15:44] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: it's a container. so...
[15:44] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: That could have something to do with it then. What is the exact mount command you are running?
[15:45] <juanonymous> what is bitcoin mining?
[15:45] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: mount command like the command i issued which gave me the error?
[15:45] <ducasse> juanonymous: a waste of time.
[15:45] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Yes.
[15:46] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: truecrypt -t /home/user/EncryptedFile.tc /home/user/EncryptedFileFolder
[15:47] <aforapple> hello
[15:47] <aforapple> people still use irc wow
[15:47] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Pastebin the output of this please: namei -om ~/EncryptedFile*
[15:47] <juanonymous> how do i install bitcoin miner on ubuntu?
[15:48] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: the output is simple as "Error: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted"
[15:49] <ducasse> juanonymous: apt search "bitcoin miner"
[15:49] <juanonymous> ok then how do i start mining?
[15:49] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: fusermount -u ~/EncryptedFileFolder
[15:50] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: that would unmount iirc
[15:50] <ducasse> juanonymous: read the man page.
[15:50] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Correct.
[15:50] <juanonymous> ok
[15:50] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: i haven't been able to mount it in the first place.
[15:51] <m1dnight_> Seems like Ubuntu is stuck shutting down, though.
[15:51] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Just run it. Even failed tries can stick in fuse and you have to explicitly unmount it. Happens to me a lot with sshfs.
[15:51] <m1dnight_> Is there any way I can switch from the 4 dots screen to any sensible textual output?
[15:51] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: all right
[15:52] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: fusermount: failed to unmount /root/lololo: Invalid argument
[15:52] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: You're trying to mount to /root?
[15:52] <ducasse> m1dnight_: remove 'quiet splash' in /etc/grub/default, run update-grub and reboot. you will now have a text console.
[15:53] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: no
[15:53] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Then why is "/root/lololo" there?
[15:54] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Pastebin "findmnt" for me please.
[15:54] <m00n_urn> i chaged the name from encryptedfolder to lololo, rypervenche
[15:55] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: "|-/dev/fuse        udev[/fuse]    devtmpf rw,relatime,size=1924072k,nr_inodes=20"
[15:56] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Pastebin please.
[15:56] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: The whole thing.
[15:56] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: all right
[15:57] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: https://0x0.st/Ayd.txt
[16:03] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: ?
[16:05] <hispeed67> tried both ubuntu studio 16.04 and ubuntu 14.04.03 and both kernel panic after boot on the language selection screen
[16:06] <hispeed67> i select english, next screen, i select install and then kernel panic
[16:10] <ducasse> hispeed67: file a bug, maybe?
[16:10] <hispeed67> swapped out single 8g stick for 2 4g sticks and it went away
[16:11] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: I have a feeling it's due to the container. I think I've exhausted my resources. Hopefully someone else here can help
[16:11] <ash_workz> is there a channel for meld?
[16:11] <hispeed67> apparently laptop doesn't support 8G sticks
[16:11] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: okay. Bu-but would i have the same problem with a vps too?
[16:12] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: No.
[16:12] <ducasse> ash_workz: doesn't look like there is one on freenode, check their web page.
[16:12] <m00n_urn> what if it is a openvz container and not a kvm one, rypervenche ?
[16:12] <ash_workz> ducasse: thanks
[16:13] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Ah, it's KVM? Then you shouldn't have problem with that.
[16:13] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: and openvz?
[16:13] <rypervenche> m00n_urn: Still shouldn't have a problem, but it's still possible I suppose.
[16:13] <m00n_urn> rypervenche: thanks a ton m8! :)
[16:14] <ducasse> m00n_urn: openvz is quite similar to lxc, so you might get the same problem.
[16:14] <litago> how do i automate an ssh connection in terminal? i ssh to my vps where i got irssi. im manually ssh with ip, password . can i save my ssh connection in terminal? and add a command to go into my screen where irssi is running
[16:14] <rypervenche> litago: You should use SSH keys.
[16:15] <m00n_urn> ducasse: oh. But xen and kvm aren't affected if i'm right?
[16:15] <ducasse> litago: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys
[16:15] <rypervenche> litago: And if you are too lazy to type "screen -x" you can add it to your .bashrc. I would recommend using tmux instead though.
[16:15] <m00n_urn> litago: add an alias too
[16:16] <ducasse> m00n_urn: i wouldn't think so, they virtualize the whole system.
[16:16] <m00n_urn> ducasse: ah yes.
[16:16] <litago> thx guys
[16:17] <juanonymous> ducasse: how do you earn from bitcoin?
[16:18] <ducasse> juanonymous: you need a specialized setup, but it's not an appropriate topic here.
[16:20] <test> HAHAHA
[16:20] <juanonymous> i see. so let us say i have the setup.. i could earn bitcoin everyday?
[16:20] <ducasse> juanonymous: it's not an appropriate topic here.
[16:20] <SCHAAP137> juanonymous: #bitcoin
[16:20] <juanonymous> what is funny test?
[16:21] <ducktape> fresh 16.04 install no sound
[16:21] <Smoth> Hi guys just installed ubuntu 16.04 on the company laptop, but I have a problem with the wifi: in the live the wifi is working but if I select 'install thrid party software (includes wifi)' the wizard hangs so I installed ubuntu without the third party software
[16:21] <Smoth> but now I don't have the wifi and I am a bit confused on what to do
[16:22] <Smoth> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)
[16:22] <Smoth> ^ that's the card
[16:22] <ducasse> ducktape: install and run pavocontrol, make sure the right output device is selected and not muted.
[16:22] <ducktape> oi mate i am vivek__
[16:22] <ducktape> i have done that but
[16:23] <ducktape> same thing is there once i rebooted the machine
[16:24] <ducasse> ducktape: i think you need to specify the default output device in the pulseaudio config
[16:26] <ducktape> and how to find that mate
[16:28] <DeMiNe0> Can someone tell me exactly what assigning <IP_ADDRESS> as an interfaces IP does? I'm setting up KVM with several tagged vlans inside a lab network attached to our main network. In order for systems to see eachother I needed to make the IP of the tagged bridge <IP_ADDRESS>.
[16:28] <DeMiNe0> My understanding is that <IP_ADDRESS> is an alias for all attached IP's
[16:29] <DeMiNe0> But in this case, does that simply tell ubuntu that the interface has no IP?
[16:30] <ducasse> ducktape: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145135/set-default-sound-device-output
[16:31] <kernelhacker> Do you guys knows there is a lot of kernel documentation for Linux on kernel.org?
[16:33] <nacc> kernelhacker: there's a lot of kernel documentation in the source, which is hosted (and browseable sort of via git) on kernel.org...
[16:33] <nacc> kernelhacker: but kernel.org is mostly a source mirror (and distro mirror)
[16:33] <kernelhacker> And then there is this: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/
[16:33] <kernelhacker> I don't use git to browse kernel documentation
[16:34] <nacc> kernelhacker: do you use git to browse the source? there's a Documentation/ directory ...
[16:34] <kernelhacker> No, you can download it directly
[16:34] <nacc> kernelhacker: i'm 99% sure what you linked to is just the Documenation/ directory from the source tree
[16:34] <kernelhacker> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/?id=refs/tags/v4.7-rc6
[16:35] <nacc> kernelhacker: sorry, were you asking *if* there was a lot of such documentation on kernel.org?
[16:35] <kernelhacker> No. And why are there so many drivers in the Linux kernel for ancient devices? Appletalk is not used anymore, neither is amiga stuff
[16:35] <nacc> kernelhacker: offtopic for this channel.
[16:36] <kernelhacker> What channel is good for that kind of disscussion?
[16:36] <nacc> !alis | kernelhacker
[16:36] <ducasse> kernelhacker: ##linux
[16:36] <nacc> ##linux, probably; maybe #kernelnewbies on OFTC
[16:39] <Great> hello
[16:44] <anonymous_> Help Me
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  start with a question
[16:45] <tgm4883> !help | anonymous_
[16:45] <anonymous_> oke
[16:45] <anonymous_> wait
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  in one line an use a pastebin if needed ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:47] <anonymous_> what do you mean? i dont know
[16:48] <anonymous_> I'm a newbie here, I tried and I tried to exploit Armitage My experiment laptop but why no login menu
[16:48] <anonymous_> please answered my question
[16:48] <ikonia> you're trying to exploit software, but you can't login to your ubuntu machine
[16:49] <ducasse> anonymous_: yeah, i don't think you're going to get any help with that here...
[16:49] <anonymous_> I'm so confused, I have a laptop with OS Windows 7, while on Linux only be exploitable
[16:50] <anonymous_> Oke Thanks for your answered
[16:50] <anonymous_> where places can answer me?
[16:50] <dax> is this part of a class, or...?
[16:51] <ducasse> anonymous_: are you running kali?
[16:52] <anonymous_> no, i'm running in backbox
[16:52] <dax> ask the backbox people, then
[16:52] <ducasse> anonymous_: then go ask them.
[16:52] <dax> !backbox
[16:52] <anonymous_> linux previous times but the error
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  you're in the wrong channel
[16:52] <anonymous_> OMG, sorry
[16:53] <anonymous_> I think it is one distro of ubuntu
[16:53] <anonymous_> okey thanks
[16:53] <anonymous_> I think it is one distro of ubuntu
[16:56] <Great> Hey is it possible to manage ftp through script ?
[16:56] <tgm4883> Anonymes: see the message from ubottu above, it's not supported here
[16:56] <nacc> Great: what do you mean by "manage ftp"? do you mean interact with the command-line client?
[16:56] <nacc> tgm4883: i think they left
[16:57] <tgm4883> nacc: ha, so they did. didn't even notice the incorrect tab complete
[16:59] <Great> nacc : I meant if script can be used by client for easy connectivity or interface !
[16:59] <tgm4883> Great: well for starters, we wouldn't suggest ftp
[17:00] <tgm4883> Great: but I don't see why you couldn't script it
[17:00] <Great> tgm4883: One issue with that !
[17:01] <dlpsankhla> I'm a beginner C++ programmer and I want to contribute to Ubuntu. How can I start? What are the prerequisites?
[17:01] <Great> I need to know the errors like if Host unrechable and action based on that !
[17:02] <nacc> dlpsankhla: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[17:02] <Great> tgm4883: Is there an effcient way to do so!
[17:02] <tgm4883> Great: using a bash script you could probably use 'expect' for that
[17:03] <tgm4883> Great: I'd do it in python, but I'd also use SFTP instead of FTP
[17:03] <Great> expect ?
[17:04] <Great> Would you please elaborate a little for that ?
[17:04] <Great> I think its like exception handling in java ?
[17:04] <ducasse> Great: 'apt install expect'
[17:05] <rypervenche> Great: Why not use scp?
[17:05] <tgm4883> Great: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/10/expect-examples/
[17:05] <tgm4883> Great: but seriously, FTP is insecure
[17:06] <rypervenche> Great: I guess what is your ultimate goal? You just want something easy for users?
[17:07] <Great> ya rypervenche
[17:07] <Ryuken> How do you install a app from command line using a .debian.tar.gz file?
[17:07] <nacc> Ryuken: you don't?
[17:07] <rypervenche> Great: Then I might go with filezilla or something.
[17:07] <Ryuken> nacc: Then how do I
[17:07] <Ryuken> If it's not available in a package
[17:07] <nacc> Ryuken: well, i mean, that suffix doens't really mean anything (beyond it being a gzipped tarball)
[17:07] <tgm4883> Ryuken: what app?
[17:07] <Ryuken> haxe
[17:08] <Ryuken> https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/haxe/1:3.0.0~svn6707-4
[17:08] <Ryuken> I'm using a debian VPS
[17:08] <Ryuken> Command line only interface
[17:08] <nacc> !info haxe
[17:08] <nacc> Ryuken: shouldn't you be asking in a debian channel?
[17:08] <nacc> Ryuken: fwiw, haxe is also in debian...
[17:08] <tgm4883> Ryuken: seems to be available in the repos
[17:09] <Ryuken> It's not available on Jessie
[17:09] <Ryuken> Won't install with apt-get
[17:09] <tgm4883> Ryuken: why are you here if you are using Jessie?
[17:09] <nacc> Ryuken: true, you didn't specify, it's in stretch & unstable. But offtopic for this channel
[17:09] <ducasse> Ryuken: then install ubuntu :)
[17:10] <Ryuken> I have other things on the VPS already set up
[17:10] <Ryuken> I would prefer not to reinstall if I have to
[17:10] <nacc> Ryuken: you seem to be ignoring the fact that you are on Debian and asking for support in an Ubuntu support channel...
[17:10] <rypervenche> Ryuken: Don't mix Ubuntu and Debian. And you should be asking in #debian.
[17:12] <Great> By the way is there a way I can check that whether a given address can be connected through ftp without actually executing ftp command ?
[17:12] <Great> means ftp server enabled on that?
[17:12] <tgm4883> Great: no
[17:12] <Ryuken> I thought Ubuntu was based off Debian
[17:12] <tgm4883> Ryuken: it is
[17:13] <ducasse> Ryuken: yes, but they're not the same.
[17:13] <tgm4883> Ryuken: but that doesn't mean that Debian is supported here...
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Ryuken  what's wrong with the Debian channel