[04:06] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, not enought words to thank you man, i wish someone wrote this and it got in first google page :D. so to be sure  i fully understood if my hdd broke and i needed to read again this tar.gz i woould have to not only back up in any mediea the tar.gz.gpg file but the .key backup file too and of course remember the pass phrase the .key file is protecting then. Then in my reinstall of ubuntu, i would have to make kgpg re
[04:06] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> ad this backup file and doueble click the tar.gz.gpg? isnt it?
[04:07] <crivit> edbian: if the hdd is broken fully   you wont get any data off it
[04:07] <edbian> crivit, I know.  I'm afraid of that for him.
[04:07] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the GnuPG page has a ton of information about how gpg works
[04:08] <cast> there's a Concepts part to the manual which is nice
[04:09] <cast> but, public key based cryptosystems are non-trivial
[04:09] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: If you wanted to back up your gpg key, you can export the key to a file, save the file somewhere on some backup media, then import the key into gpg when necessary
[04:09] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, ok i'll take a look but what i said right before is right?
[04:09] <Tux414> Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:09] <crivit> edbian: for who>?
[04:09] <DasEi> sdfasdfasdfasdf: install signing-party and pgpgpg, then use the man-function, a 10 min task then
[04:09] <edbian> crivit, The friend of mine who's computer this is we're talking about.
[04:09] <cast> you can even print out your key, it takes up about 1/4 of a page, one uses paperkey for that
[04:09] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: if you're afraid of losing the passphrase you can write it down in a file on the backup
[04:10] <josephseraos> hey.. I can't to find. I entered in some channels and I don't know how to change to other channels. I can't to find it on irssi.org
[04:10] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the description of the process you gave is correct
[04:10] <crivit> edbian: put the drive in question in another pc
[04:10] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: like cast said, you can back up the key by printing it out
[04:10] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> DasEi, i think i just learned howto use kgpg hehe.
[04:10] <tensorpudding> it's just a rather long string of random alphanumeric characters
[04:11] <tensorpudding> random-looking*
[04:11] <cast> it turns out the secret part of your key is only a few hundred bits, commonly 200-400 bits,
[04:11] <edbian> Is there a big difference between fsck and e2fsck ??
[04:11] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> woah interesting
[04:11] <EvilPhoenix> whats the CLI command to get the distro info
[04:11] <DasEi> sdfasdfasdfasdf: fine two, just another frontend, but nice to know cmd-line, can use on other OS'es, too then
[04:11] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> can i use stronger protection, i think there is 2048 bits, its this safe enought or theres even more?
[04:11] <tensorpudding> edbian: fsck calls e2fsck I believe
[04:12] <crivit> edbian: haha only light years away
[04:12] <tensorpudding> edbian: you use fsck and it calls the appropriate program to fsck that filesystem
[04:12] <ennui> hey guys, I borked my OSX partition on my dual boot macbook. Trying to use my iPod to boot from as an OSX install DVD. though I don't have disk usage enabled on it.... what are my options? running the windows version of itunes under wine? I can't restart my comp as I won't be able to boot back into linux because I was using rEFIt and I guess that was part of the OSX partition.
[04:12] <edbian> tensorpudding, That's what I thought.  Thanks :)
[04:12] <dustin> hello?
[04:13]  * smackmanic rm -rf ubuntubuggy =(
[04:13] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: I think 1024 bits is considered to be safe on the multi-decade scale at current
[04:13] <tensorpudding> as in, the time it takes to brute-force it will take decades of computer time
[04:13] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: 2048 bit is the size of the finite field you're operating in, with a 2048 bit ELG key your secret keys still only 330 bits, but your public key is 2048*2 and then some
[04:14] <fredwang> occasionally, my firefox freezes for a few seconds when maximized, anyone has an idea?
[04:14] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, wow even with lastest intel processors combined? ok im overreacting here not like if the nasa wanted to read this tar.gz hehe
[04:14] <DasEi> smackmanic: what about my questions ? dist-install / access hd from another system ?
[04:14] <fredwang> anything to do with X
[04:14] <tensorpudding> Apparently 768bit RSA has been broken earlier this year, using 1500 years of computer time
[04:15] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> cast, i see.
[04:15] <tensorpudding> 1500 years in the equivalent of a standard desktop pc
[04:15] <smackmanic> DasEi: currently the only route I can pursue...is either editign grub boot...or doing something with busybox. however...heh...I think busybox may be the most useless shell in the world
[04:15] <cast> the world, is rightfully so, moving away from 1024 bit keys
[04:15] <josephseraos> I got! //window <number>
[04:15] <josephseraos> I got! / /window <number>
[04:15] <tensorpudding> the whole effort involved a massive supercomputer using an integer sieve
[04:15] <dustin> busybox? whats that?
[04:15] <cast> attacking RSA is a bit easier than attacking ELG, for what it's worth
[04:15] <smackmanic> it's a bit frustrating because obviously the solution is there...I'm not doing it properly...
[04:15] <DasEi> smackmanic: considering repairing grub, yes
[04:15] <tensorpudding> 1024 will be safe for a bit yet.
[04:16] <josephseraos> I got! / window <number>
[04:16] <smackmanic> dustin: a shell I hope you never see mate
[04:16] <edbian> DasEi, Thanks for your help! :)
[04:16] <smackmanic> =p
[04:16] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> tensorpudding, wow i'm using 2048 then :D
[04:16] <DasEi> dustin: a minimal shell you get dropped to if initramfs fails
[04:16] <DasEi> edbian: fs fixed ?
[04:16] <cast> gpg defaults are now 2048, have been for a while
[04:16] <tensorpudding> sdfasdfasdfasdf: the resources to break 1024 would be out of the reach of most everyone
[04:16] <edbian> DasEi, No, I sent an email though.
[04:17] <smackmanic> dustin: apparently a lot of people who jumped from 8.04 to the latest version ge to wake up to it...
[04:17] <DasEi> edbian: so I got you right, not your box
[04:17] <dustin> its that like when a pc gets a bluescreenfodeath, and you do theat to reveive it
[04:17] <crivit> edbian: what box you on?
[04:17] <DasEi> smackmanic: huh ? you have the choice of grub2 there, nor ?
[04:17] <edbian> DasEi, You helped me start solving a problem for somebody else.  No offense but I find it very difficult to understand what you're saying.
[04:18] <edbian> crivit, My own.  This box has no problems.  Running Debian :)
[04:18] <tensorpudding> though honestly i don't think you'll ever convince anyone that there is such a thing as too many bits in a private key
[04:18] <cast> sure you will
[04:18] <smackmanic> DasEi: no because I cannot access updates from busybox (there's not even sudo..) and as I've said livecd is -not- an option
[04:18] <edbian> crivit, It's my friends computer that has the problems.  Again, I've said this to you I'm I not making sense?
[04:18] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> i see now i managed to think this: if i encrypt with 2048 bits an already encrypted file in same bits. it woult take  sort of 4096 protection cause it'd take a lot of time to decrypt the 2048 bits to get another 2048 file, hehe double amount of time am i correct?
[04:18] <cast> when it takes too long to use the key :)
[04:18] <tensorpudding> anyone truly paranoid
[04:19] <tensorpudding> cast: techonology advances allow for larger keys as easily as they allow for easier brute forcing
[04:19] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: no.
[04:19] <crivit> edbian:sure you are but I wasnt here later
[04:19] <DasEi> smackmanic: so one more time, backup files and do a fresh install ? any other possibility to hang that hd on working system ?
[04:20] <tensorpudding> even 768 is safe enough in the short term
[04:20] <smackmanic> DasEi: I have the solution though...I just don't understand it
[04:20] <wolfric> can someone tell me what ctrl alt f2 does exactly? it doesn't seem to kill x like i first thought
[04:20] <rodrigo> hi folks
[04:20] <dustin> hi
[04:20] <hrishi> I'm having problems in my desktop. I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on i386 arch. Everytime I start my system, the window decorator of gtk goes missing. Is this because I installed compiz(is it a bug in compiz)? I have to do "gtk-window-decorator --replace&
[04:20] <tensorpudding> until people who care enough to break your encrypted files have access to computing power equal to 1500 years on average 2010 desktop PC's
[04:20] <cast> tensorpudding: but the rates are not the same :)
[04:20] <[thor]> wolfric: it switches to TTY2
[04:20] <tensorpudding> in a reasonable amount of time
[04:20] <DasEi> wolfric: it opens another tty, ctrl-alt-F7 brings you back to desktop
[04:21] <[thor]> wolfric: x is on TTY7
[04:21] <edbian> crivit, Yeah it's another persons computer (laptop) that has fs errors.  I sent him a message instructing him to run fsck on the partiton using a live CD.
[04:21] <cast> tensorpudding: attacks may evolve faster than computing hardware
[04:21] <smackmanic> DasEi: so I believe i should try to see the actual solution out before I go destroying the OS lol
[04:21] <hrishi> I'm having problems in my desktop. I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on i386 arch. Ocassionally when I start my system, the window decorator of gtk goes missing. Is this because I installed compiz(is it a bug in compiz)? I have to do "gtk-window-decorator --replace&" to get it working. How do I get this resolved permanently?
[04:21] <crivit> edbian: ok MITM heheh
[04:21] <wolfric> i managed to google for the f7 after i had to hard restart the first time :) i'm not too familiar with tty2 or any other number can you give me a general name to look up more on?
[04:21] <wolfric> or a link
[04:22] <edbian> !MITM
[04:22] <edbian> what is MITM ?
[04:22] <cast> tensorpudding: the world is moving to ECC, FWIW, :)
[04:22] <DasEi> maninthemiddle (attack)
[04:22] <tensorpudding> Who is "the world" in this case?
[04:22] <edbian> crivit, What are you talking about??
[04:22] <tik> does ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated or a god watermarking software?
[04:22] <tensorpudding> AES is still the government-issue, is it not?
[04:22] <hydester> hrishi: System->Preference->Appearance->Visual Effects->None
[04:23] <tik> er good not od
[04:23] <crivit> edbian: you are the man in the middle?
[04:23] <tik> god
[04:23] <DasEi> !tty > wolfric
[04:23] <edbian> crivit, I'm not attacking anybody.
[04:23] <tik> ill be in the middle of 2 girls :P
[04:23] <hrishi> hydester: but I want the visual effects of compiz. So I guess it is a bug in compiz then!
[04:23] <cast> sdfasdfasdfasdf: attacking a 2048 bit key is maybe equiv to a 2^100 symmetric key, attacking your doubly encrypted file would be equiv to 2^101, twice as hard.
[04:23] <[thor]> !tty > [thor]
[04:23] <wolfric> dasEi: thanks
[04:23] <dustin> yes patly,cuz of my friend
[04:23] <crivit> edbian: that not what I was suggesting
[04:23] <callipygous> how do I get the grub bootloader to show up?  I'm trying to do a recovery...
[04:23] <cast> [citation: Mécanismes cryptographiques - Règles et recommandations, Rev. 1.20, FNISA , 01/2010.]
[04:24] <edbian> crivit, Are you joking? :)
[04:24] <Tux414> Hello all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my internal microphone doesn't work. Also my internet shows unknown or 1 mbps. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:24] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> cast, wow.
[04:24] <crivit> edbian: that not what I was suggesting
[04:24] <edbian> crivit, Were you joking about the MITM attack?  I'm not angry, just confused :) :)
[04:24] <crivit> edbian: that not what I was suggesting
[04:24] <deexannihilate> What DVD program is most compatible with PulseAudio? I'm currently using VLC and sometimes it doesn't work.
[04:24] <tik> does ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated) or a good watermarking software?
[04:25] <crivit> for the last time
[04:25] <sdfasdfasdfasdf> ow, i gtg thanks all for the help! =)
[04:25] <callipygous> I've tried holding down the shift key, but that doesn't work
[04:25] <DasEi> cast: and then move it to a tc container, the hidden one and move it to a luks partiton.. and store the notebook in a .. tank
[04:25] <hrishi> why doesn't the grub2 menu show after I install ubuntu lucid? I just get a screen with a cursor blinking, then I get the splash screen.
[04:25] <les_> Hey everyone
[04:26] <xangua> deexannihilate: do you have libdvdcss2 installed¿
[04:26] <cast> DasEi: and then watch helplessly as someone breaks in via your use of adobe flash to browse websites!
[04:26] <smackmanic> hrishi: because apparently they wanted to make ubuntu more buggy.
[04:26] <callipygous> I've also tried pressing the esc key... but I still can't get the boot menu to appear
[04:26] <dustin> Tux414, 1st) plug it in to lan (no wifi at all) upated like a mad man , an everything you can update and come back when your done
[04:26] <edbian> crivit, What does MITM stand for then?
[04:26] <hylian> !hi | les_
[04:26] <xangua> hrishi: is will show up when you have more than one OS installed
[04:26] <DasEi> cast:got it !!
[04:26] <callipygous> how do I get in to the grub boot menu?
[04:26] <crivit> edbian: never mind
[04:26] <edbian> crivit, ha ha:) ok
[04:26] <tik> callipygous: are you dual booting?
[04:26] <Tux414> dustin: I have wifi it just doesn't read the speed correctly.
[04:26] <callipygous> tik: no
[04:26] <DasEi> callipygous: left shift (grub2), might have to modify timeout
[04:26] <xangua> callipygous: you keep pressing the Alt key when you start your pc i believe
[04:26] <tik> oh ok
[04:26] <tik> nm
[04:27] <hrishi> smackmanic: Ha, I don't see the point of hiding the menu anyway.
[04:27] <callipygous> alt?
[04:27] <tik> i thoughtit was ESC?
[04:27] <hylian> les_ how can we help you?
[04:27] <hrishi> xangua: oh, but what is the point!
[04:27] <DasEi> tik: grub1 was Esc
[04:27] <tik> o
[04:27] <tik> sry
[04:27] <les_> @hylian I'm new to IRC, so just listening for now, thanks!
[04:27] <crivit> edbian:only trying to help
[04:27] <deexannihilate> xangua: yes. it is installed
[04:27] <smackmanic> hrishi: i think it's just to tick you off
[04:28] <callipygous> ah left shift worked, thanks :)
[04:28] <hylian> les: ok :)
[04:28] <chilli0> If I try: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/media there is no problems. But If i add this to my fstab i get bad fstype. Anyone know why?  /dev/sdb1 /media/media ntfs 0 0
[04:28] <DasEi> callipygous:  modify timeout/spalsh  /etc/default/grub,  update-grub (as root) afterwards
[04:28] <DasEi> callipygous: be fine then
[04:28] <edbian> crivit, Attempt appreciated :)
[04:28] <hrishi> smackmanic: hope they change it in meerkat atleast.
[04:28] <cast> chilli0: you're double posting.
[04:29] <ubuntunoob> ? for any1:  Is there any good online radi streamer for ubuntu?
[04:29] <smackmanic> hrishi: I hope this buggy update didn't eff me over on this OS
[04:29] <smackmanic> ;)
[04:29] <DasEi> chilli0: pastebin the whole fstab line
[04:29] <chilli0> DasEi, I did.
[04:29] <chilli0> Well , that is the whole line.
[04:29] <tik> does ayone know where I can get the vhook  libraries for ffmpeg (it's been depreciated) or a good watermarking software?
[04:29] <hrishi> :D
[04:29] <chilli0> cast, Because I want help, other chan hadn't offered anything so I asked here.
[04:29] <dustin> Tux414,well try it anyways , i got lucky with a driver for my lappy, that i had been lookin for, and it was in the system bank, newly updated
[04:29] <hylian> chilli0: i know it's best to use the devices number than the /sdb1 bit, but i don't think that should be your problem. did you have to force this to mount in the past?
[04:29] <tik> sorry to bug you guys that was on a timer i disabledit
[04:30] <hrishi> one more query. Why is it that ubuntu lucid is drinking battery power 40% or more when compared to "Windows 7"!!!! for crying out loud
[04:30] <dustin> Tux414,some time later
[04:30] <smackmanic> hrishi: hahahahahahaha I was just about to mention
[04:30] <tik> hrishi: did you set the screen brightness down and set the drive to spin down?
[04:30] <cast> chilli0: but you cant be using *both* operating systems
[04:30] <smackmanic> that apparently lucid doesn't handle CPU very well at all...let lucid stay installed as ur main OS for a year or so
[04:30] <DasEi> chilli0: /dev/sdb1      /media/media ntfs  user,auto 0       0
[04:30] <ubuntunoob> ? for any1:  Is there any good online radio streamer for ubuntu?
[04:30] <smackmanic> it'll eat the graphics card up
[04:31] <chilli0> Thanks DasEi I shall try that now.
[04:31] <DasEi> fore more possib's :
[04:31] <smackmanic> I've seen it happen to five mates so far, ones right now at the point of flickering screen
[04:31] <chilli0> cast, They work in the same way , ubuntu is based of debian.
[04:31] <DasEi> !fstab | chilli0
[04:31] <les_> @ubuntunoob If not, I believe there are Firefox addons
[04:31] <ubuntunoob> ok ty :D
[04:31] <crivit> edbian: hacker talk is problemtic  sorry#
[04:32] <tik> is thi hdrive external?
[04:32] <hrishi> I heard the GPU runs at full speed and that 'might' be the problem? Is this true?
[04:32] <tik> you shouldn't mount external hdrives with fstab
[04:32] <Tux414> dustin: 10.10 it works but on 10.4 it won't work my computer is an acer aspire 3810 TZ.
[04:32] <hrishi> Its mainly a kernel issue I guess as the same effect is present on fedora 13 as well
[04:32] <edbian> crivit, No worries :)
[04:32] <chilli0> DasEi, Seemed to work so far. Thanks.
[04:32] <ennui> does anyone know of a channel dedicated to netbook discussion? I'd like to run a linux distro on a netbook but I was looking for advice as to which model netbook to invest in. was hoping for something powerful enough to playback 1080p mkv files in mplayer
[04:32] <AlbertoP> Uruz: do not ping please
[04:33] <smackmanic> hrishi..'might'........
[04:33] <dustin> Tux414, whats wont again?  did you do my advice?
[04:33] <DasEi> chilli0: np, nice
[04:33] <smackmanic> it'll fry the machine eventually
[04:33] <hrishi> smackmanic: yeah ... thanks to todays cooling techniques, we're saved :D :D
[04:33] <xangua> ennui: netbooks normally are not designed to play HD videos
[04:34] <smackmanic> hrishi: idk...I've seen 5 laptops get fried by lucid so far, personally.
[04:34] <hylian> !fstab
[04:34] <smackmanic> altho they were all dells..so i think it also has soemthing to do with a certain model of dell laptops
[04:34] <crivit> smackmanic: fried???
[04:34] <hrishi> smackmanic: wow! 5 ... this is bad ....
[04:34] <smackmanic> crivit: basically made destroyed the monitor
[04:35] <steph_> Hi , a little trouble with compiz here with lucid,  if i create a shortcut in application at startup with the command "compiz --replace" , after starting a proccess is working in loop and I have my CPU at 34 ~40 % ... if instead I start without this and in a terminal : compiz --replace , I dont have trouble.. any idea?
[04:35] <smackmanic> made the graphics card useless and did some damage to HD
[04:35] <les_> I'm on a Dell with Lucid now, and it works great...inspiron 640m...came with XP
[04:35] <smackmanic> they were all dells...a certain model....I forget which
[04:35] <Tux414> dustin: could you please repeat your advice
[04:35] <smackmanic> les_, right, I don't think it's all dells
[04:35] <smackmanic> I'm using dell myself...an ancient desktop but a dell nonetheless
[04:35] <dustin> go to pm opk?
[04:35] <smackmanic> and I don't have cpu probs
[04:36] <smackmanic> except I don't have enough cpu...=p
[04:36] <ennui> xangua: I know they aren't normally but many new netbooks now have HD resolution screens
[04:36] <giov> What is the  __KDE__ sw that shows the hardware in a system - ex, USB hw info?  There used to be something called KControl in KDE3, but thatś gone.  - Iḿ unable to get connected to #KUbuntu.
[04:36] <hylian> les_ yeah the dell's, especially the dimension models seem to work really well with ubuntu.
[04:36] <les_> I lucked out, as I'm new to Linux, and my first try was on my Dell. If it hadn't gone well, I might not have switched.
[04:37] <smackmanic> les_...I think once I get ubuntu actually running again, I'm going to switch to debian
[04:37] <smackmanic> to be honest.
[04:37] <tik> 99gioz: loa terminal and type lsusb
[04:37] <les_> Why....stability?
[04:37] <xangua> giov: maybe because is not #KUbuntu is #kubuntu
[04:37] <hrishi> smackmanic: is there 'any' solutions for this battery issue ... reducing the brightness and spinning down hard disks is just going around the problem, giving trouble to the user, than solving the problem! :D
[04:37] <xangua> giov: you maybe need to register your nick¿
[04:37] <smackmanic> les_: yeah. everytime we update something in ubuntu something breaks
[04:38] <smackmanic> and ubuntu is terrible at handling the cpu compared to debian
[04:38] <hylian> les_ it also helps that dell seems to like using nvidia hardware. I'm running a self built machine, ubuntu 10.04 amd64 bit edition. runs great.
[04:38] <les_> smackmanic: do you have a lot of stuff installed?
[04:38] <DasEi> giov: for gnome it's gnome-device-manager, maybe search synaptic for kde ?
[04:38] <tik> debian is an old distro ubuntu is virtual new comaired to sum give it time
[04:38] <smackmanic> hrishi: they did that...idk if that actually helped any at all..see...the problem wasn't completely noticeable except the battery was very hot..then the monitor would randomly flicker...
[04:38] <smackmanic> so it sortof sneaks up on you
[04:38] <les_> hylian: good to know
[04:38] <crivit> smackmanic:live cd is not really meant to be updated
[04:39]  * bintut waves
[04:39] <bintut> what is your preferred filesystem when the clients are *nix and windows other than by using samba?
[04:39] <smackmanic> crivit: I'm not even using livecd mate....
[04:39] <edbian> bintut, Windows only supports samba and ftp.  ftp is a security joke.
[04:39] <hrishi> smackmanic: then I guess it still remains a problem! hmmmm......
[04:39] <les_> smackmanic: I'm a newbie, but I've installed on three PC's now several times, and it seems ok until I add other desktop environments
[04:40] <smackmanic> hrishi: I would just google ur laptop model or whatever and CPU and ubuntu to check it out
[04:40] <les_> Such as KDE
[04:40] <smackmanic> les_: I'm usually fine unless I update anything at all
[04:40] <hylian> bintut i personally prefer ext 3 because there are some nice windows programs that can write to ext3.
[04:40] <les_> lol
[04:40] <DasEi> bintut: ext3
[04:40] <smackmanic> anytime I go for an update, ubuntu gives me the finger
[04:41] <furythor> How well Nvidia Geforce 400 series graphics cards are supported in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:41] <smackmanic> hence I waited so long to update...
[04:41] <bintut> edbian: i'm asking for filesystem served or can be accessed over the lan
[04:41] <les_> smackmanic, what kind of system do you have?
[04:41] <jsimmons> should be fine furythor.
[04:41] <bintut> hylian: it should be able to access from the lan
[04:41] <smackmanic> les_: a verrrry old dell dimension
[04:41] <DasEi> furythor: just check the nvidia homepage , and look for the xorg-version postet there, lucid is 1.7.5
[04:41] <tik> anyone know free watemarking software for .avi fes?
[04:41] <tik> files
[04:41] <furythor> jsimmons: So basically if I buy new card, make fresh install etc, it should work flawlessly ?
[04:41] <smackmanic> im surprised my harddrive still works
[04:42] <tik> bintut: samba is your best be
[04:42] <edbian> bintut, yeah, either samba or ftp if you're using windows.  If you're over a lan than the ftp isn't such a horrible idea.  Samba is still much preferred.
[04:42] <tik> t
[04:42] <xDATx> any support yet for macbook pro?
[04:42] <itsux2bu> wow.. i'm new to linux and ubuntu.. also wanted to try out wmplayer too.. found this.. its just what i needed.. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/
[04:42] <les_> smackmanic, yes I hear Debian is much better for stability because they update very conservatively. Might work for you.
[04:42] <jsimmons> Should do furythor, you'll have to install the nvidia restricted drivers before you can get 3D acceleration, or even possible full resolution. But yes.
[04:43] <tik> itsux2bu: I recommend sun virtual box it's freeware
[04:43] <smackmanic> les_: lol it doesn't bother me so much except these are common bugs and there seems to be not a lot of help in fixing them
[04:43] <itsux2bu> so is vmplayer
[04:43] <smackmanic> and they don't exactly warn you up front...so most of the time it's a surprise
[04:43] <furythor> jsimmons: yeah I know that, just curious to know that I don't get expensive and useless graphics card for my system
[04:43] <tik> you can create with vmplayer?
[04:43] <DasEi> bintut: samba is most comfort, for throughput rsync and such are better, nas is little faster then samba, too
[04:43] <smackmanic> like..this is a surprise, whats not a surprise? I promise you lucid does not include my sound modules.
[04:43] <skumara> i get this error 'The following packages block the update: pm-utils-powersave-policy'. I want to install laptop mode. pls help.
[04:43] <dustin> furythor, yes:) i did it (most of the time ) try to install the set up vmware after to test it
[04:43] <hylian> bintut i know that software works locally, i have never used it over a network. technically it should work, but, i can't guarantee it
[04:43] <les_> smackmanic, I know what you mean. I've come to love Linux, but that is one HUGE issue that needs to be overcome.
[04:44] <smackmanic> or w/e we're on these days. I wouldn't know, I rebooted and now it's bunk lol
[04:44] <tik> smackmanic: a lot of cards are supported
[04:44] <tik> thought
[04:44] <tik> what do you have?
[04:44] <furythor> another question, AMD Phenom II x4 cpus work also on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:44] <hylian> i stumbled upon a version of android for pc, im gonna check it out. im hoping it wil make a nice little os for a kiosk type set up, mostly for my nephews.
[04:44] <dustin> furythor, no 100% sucussed but if you do then you saved your self alot of time and moving files
[04:44] <tik> you can tr some different models and see if they work for it
[04:44] <DasEi> furythor: yesss
[04:44] <jsimmons> they will work fine furythor.
[04:45] <les_> My download is finished. Going now, so I can try out Mint KDE on my wife's laptop
[04:45] <itsux2bu> starting with vmplayer v3 you can "create" vm's
[04:45] <les_> Good night, all!
[04:45] <tik> les: njo
[04:45] <tik> y
[04:45] <hylian> !bye | les_
[04:45] <tik> oh.. din't know that
[04:45] <DasEi> itsux2bu: pmm you ?
[04:46] <hylian> i don't know why i made ubottu say bye...
[04:46] <steph_> any one has met a compiz startup trouble after upgrading from karmic to lucid?
[04:46] <smackmanic> sorry had a phone call
[04:46] <furythor> okay, I may be getting upgrade for my computer so I would not need to "sulk" my slow'mo computer in Assembly10 ... *grin*
[04:46] <skumara> i get this error 'The following packages block the update: pm-utils-powersave-policy'. I want to install laptop mode. pls help.
[04:47] <DasEi> itsux2bu: may I pm you ?
[04:47] <furythor> anyhow I am off, it is 6:45 here and I gotta get some sleep...
[04:47] <tik> smackmanic: what card do you have for audio? you can try it under a different model
[04:47] <itsux2bu> DasEi yes
[04:47] <asdfasdfasdf> it's me again in dolphin when i right click the tar.gz i want to encrypt with kgpg it only gives me the option to encrypt it using a publick key :S, how could i create a private key? the generate options create two both public and private,i'm not intending to distribute my encrypted file and much less make it available publicly so what do you suggest?
[04:48] <xDATx> How different is it to go from Ubuntu to Debian?
[04:48] <smackmanic> tik: it's a creative sb live card
[04:48] <tik> creative sound be covered
[04:48] <tik> hd on
[04:48] <tik> hold
[04:48] <smackmanic> xDATx: not very much difference IMO, I use debian off and on, with another machine
[04:48] <steph_> the repository xDaTx
[04:48] <xDATx> I am halfwayu through Linux-Tutorial.info
[04:48] <hylian> "We want to get rid of laptop-mode-tools. We want to make pm-utils the
[04:48] <hylian> single point of implementing power management features."
[04:48] <xDATx> want to get my linux + by the end of October
[04:48] <smackmanic> it is just as friendly as ubuntu...quite a bit more stable
[04:49] <smackmanic> but if ubuntu works, let it work I say
[04:49] <bdrum_> I am getting a hard lock at logout (keyboard unresponsive, need to hard boot) - I am thinking GDM is at fault.  I checked the logs but can't see anything particular.  Any ideas of next step?
[04:49] <tik> what is /etc/modprobe.d/asla-base.conf say ?
[04:49] <tik> is/does
[04:49] <dustin> steph_,i think.. what is compiz again?
[04:49] <cast> asla/alsa ;)
[04:49] <xDATx> Where I work the LAN engineers are pushing me to use Slackware but it is too crude for my taste.
[04:50] <xDATx> You have to do everything so manually.
[04:50] <smackmanic> xDATx: I will say this, one thing for me that's an issue....ubuntu devs will literally alter code on some programs so they wont import mp3s (yes, this is true. i've inquired canonical about it.)
[04:50] <edbian> xDATx, Debian is older.  You'll notice that right away.  Using them is pretty much the same.  Debian gets out of your way a little more I think.  Once you've moved in to the distro though there is almost no difference besides the release cycle.
[04:50] <smackmanic> such as a DAW program.
[04:50] <cast> xDATx: they're "LAN" engineers. tell them to sod off
[04:51] <xDATx> smackmanic, edbian ok cool thanks
[04:51] <xDATx> I'll give it a try
[04:51] <crivit> xDATx: debian will keep you onyour toes
[04:51] <edbian> xDATx, How anybody could stand using a distro without a package manager is beyond me.
[04:51] <smackmanic> tik sorry I didn't see your question.ummm, gee, I'd love to tell you, except ubuntu won't boot right now.
[04:51] <xDATx> how about updates are they as current at Ubuntu?
[04:51] <steph_> dustin , with karmic , compiz was launched at start , with the comand "compiz --replace" in the menu application at startup , but with this way after starting , my cpu is working at 30% with a proccess in loop , if i dont use this command at startup menu , but instead , the command compiz -replace in a terminal , then all is ok
[04:51] <hylian> edbian if im not mistaked debian comes with apt-get.
[04:51] <cast> edbian: and how it became the number 1 OS like that is also beyond me!
[04:51] <smackmanic> whenever I get some help on a simple grub issue I will be sure to letcha know mate
[04:51] <edbian> hylian, I was talking about slackware
[04:52] <edbian> cast, ha ha :)
[04:52] <smackmanic> edbian, .debs are very friendly..
[04:52] <hylian> edbian im totally with you there.
[04:52] <crivit> cast: it was around long before others!!!
[04:52] <cast> oh, we aren't talking about windows?
[04:52] <cast> for what its worth, slackware and debian are quite similar in age
[04:52] <smackmanic> altho it's def nice to have a gui and click click...and have everything together so you can go to the terminal and just sudo apt
[04:52] <tik> oh ok
[04:52] <smackmanic> but..eh
[04:52] <tik> smackmanic: oh ok
[04:52] <DasEi> !latest | xDATx
[04:53] <tik> smackmanic:put in a live cd and mount the partition :P
[04:53] <smackmanic> tik: :)
[04:53] <hylian> i can't wrap my head around debian's website. so many packages. i want something that says, oh you want this this and this. not, ohh, here's a million possible packages, and you figure it out.
[04:53] <DasEi> xDATx: you can, on your own risk, add newer repos for things you want/need
[04:53] <tik> smackmanic: why won't it boot?
[04:53] <smackmanic> haha for the dozenth time..livecd not an option..i have the solution!  Including kernel updates whats up with that?
[04:53] <tik> maybe I can help
[04:53] <crivit> cast: age... but not usability
[04:53] <smackmanic> mate I can send you a link...the fix is fairly simple, I'm just doing something wrong
[04:53] <smackmanic> something is 'off
[04:53] <smackmanic> 'off'
[04:54] <edbian> hylian, I know, 23 CD's the first time I saw that I was like what the hell?
[04:54] <tik> url me to the location of theworkaround
[04:54] <DasEi> hylian: google perfect desktop
[04:54] <tik> and ill PM you
[04:54] <cast> hylian: damn that choice.
[04:54] <cast> debian having a lot of software packaged for it is *not* an argument against it.
[04:55] <xDATx> I am on a D620 latitude so I don't really have any hardware issues. Everything works out of the box.
[04:55] <tik> anyone know of simple watermarking software? even colsole im game
[04:55] <cast> if it were, then the distros without package management would be winning
[04:55] <tik> DA: same with an asus laptop
[04:55] <bintut> thanks guys for your suggestion
[04:55] <hylian> cast i like choice, and i like direction. a city like los angeles and no road map = chaotic.
[04:56] <BentFranklin> Ubu is calling my SATA drive a SCSI.  That's ok right?
[04:56] <cast> hylian: pose a hypothetical software selection problem and i'll pose a hypothetical solution
[04:56] <bintut> actually, i was waiting for someone who will be suggesting sshfs, nfsv4, openafs, etc.. but no one able to mention it as i already explicitly except for samba
[04:56] <cast> BentFranklin: yes.
[04:56] <edbian> bintut, Those don't work with windows.
[04:56] <UltraParadigm> Anyone know if there is a Shared Linking Library for Qt to run Qt apps?
[04:57] <smackmanic> tik: sorry mate, am using windows and java..you know how that goes...
[04:57] <smackmanic> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html scroll to the bottom, 2nd to last post
[04:57] <hylian> cast maybe you can help me then. i have an interest in debian, i want to start with a functional gui desktop os. where in debian.org do i begin?
[04:58] <cast> hylian: during the debian install, you had the option to select 'tasks', one of them was 'desktop environment', it was ticked by default in the installer
[04:58] <smackmanic> yah
[04:58] <crivit> cast: yeah
[04:58] <DasEi> hylian: #debian is there , ubuntu is debian based and most popular, for general linux quests, join #linux
[04:58] <BentFranklin> My first install crashed in the installer.  The traceback mentioned something called ubituity a lot.  I was installing from the Live CD.  I'm installing straight from the CD now.  I hope that works.
[04:58] <bdrum_> does anyone know the best way to completely disable GDM in ubuntu?
[04:59] <shiv> minitube: finally everything works but the video colors are so different with different hues. How do I fix this?
[04:59] <cast> hylian: if you installed via a more exotic method, such as debootstrap, or a .tar, you can run tasksel manually, or, better imho, aptitude install gnome xorg
[04:59] <hylian> cast but that requires more bandwidth than i have. i download iso's from my library and then use them at home. i need something i can have totally ready and available without reconnecting to the net and downloading for 7 hours before i get everything installed. debian should make a ubuntu-ish desktop cd with most used software ready to go.
[04:59] <smackmanic> hylian: it really is much friendly than you'd think..just you have to get used to not using synaptic and such. that's my opinion. I use it for sound editing because as I said, ubuntu devs took it upon themselves to edit software so that id have to import a 300mb wav sample while I have 5 VSTi's open and CPU maxin out
[04:59] <smackmanic> ;)
[04:59] <bazhang> hylian, cast #debian please
[05:00] <cast> hylian: if you get the first debian dvd, it will contain all you need for a graphical desktop
[05:00] <bazhang> cast, ?
[05:00] <smackmanic> cast: no competition
[05:00] <bintut> edbian: they actually work, well.. out of the box as you need to enable or install something for windows will be able to access the "shared" folder that sshfs, nfsv4, openafs, etc. filesystems served on the linux server
[05:00] <smackmanic> let's be Microsoft. no debian talk! even though we're based on it
[05:00] <hylian> bazhang, thanx you are right this is a discussion for another channel, and thank you cast for the info
[05:00] <smackmanic> bwaha
[05:01] <crivit> cast: the first DVD will set you up
[05:01] <cast> yeah...you're right bazhang, what was i thinking :) why would i want hylian using debian!
[05:01] <crivit> cast: the first debian* #DVD will set you up
[05:01] <hylian> LOL
[05:01] <smackmanic> cast, i know. soooo stupid!
[05:01] <hylian> cast ;)
[05:01] <asdfasdfasdf> cast why do kgpg creates a public key by default, dont i need only a private key if im not intending to distribute the file?
[05:02] <hylian> but ubuntu is only debian "ish", LOL.
[05:02] <cast> asdfasdfasdf: most people want a public key, so it does it by default
[05:02] <smackmanic> nah uh
[05:02] <smackmanic> debian is ish
[05:02] <smackmanic> ubuntu is bug
[05:02] <fitoria> smackmanic, troll
[05:02] <smackmanic> fitoria: doubtful
[05:03] <crivit> SO TO METION DEBIAN IS TROLING?
[05:03] <crivit> how sad
[05:03] <fitoria> crivit, not at all
[05:03] <bazhang> crivit, its offtopic and lose the caps
[05:03] <smackmanic> I've been coming here for 2 days trying to get help editing grub properly because there is a bug in the ubuntu update. as you can imagine, it's been a bit stressful mate. just a bit.
[05:04] <hylian> ubuntu might be considered a "bug" by some of the more pure debian people, but i think it's the os that's gonna have a chance at taking any real marketspace away from MS.
[05:04] <smackmanic> hylian: it def already has, for sure
[05:04] <crivit> smackmanic: well unless ubuntu has fixed it   you wont get any help!
[05:05] <DasEi> smackmanic: 3 people gave you same advices, and also you don't anwer questions clear, that might be a issue
[05:05] <smackmanic> just like MS took market from MAC...not exactly a win win
[05:05] <bazhang> !ot
[05:05] <DasEi> :)
[05:05] <crivit> hehe
[05:05] <smackmanic> DasEi: I specifically said livecd is not an option. I requested -very- specific help on the grub boot option lol
[05:05] <Gnea> !attitude | crivit
[05:05] <hylian> smackmanic, are you still having grub problems? does grub not load when you install? i had that problem because i am using both an ati drive and a sata drive
[05:05] <smackmanic> you have my EXACT error msgs verbatim on the forum posts.
[05:06] <smackmanic> hylian: grub loads, ubuntu won't boot
[05:06] <crivit> stop spaming  ubuntu bot
[05:06] <Gnea> smackmanic: is there a url for that?
[05:06] <smackmanic> I need to edit the boot...but it's been a bit since I've messed with this machine, I've no idea what I'm doing, I tried editing a few times, I'm sure I'm doing it wrong
[05:06] <hylian> ati drive, i yiy yiy, eidi.
[05:06] <DasEi> smackmanic: and from busybox this won't be done, so either hook the cd to another sys or consider backup/fresh install
[05:06] <smackmanic> DasEi: why are you dodging my grub edit LOL
[05:07] <smackmanic> Gnea: certainly. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html
[05:07] <smackmanic> notice it's the ubuntu forums. telling me how to fix it.
[05:07] <hylian> smackmanic is it giving you an error, what exactly is it doing?
[05:07] <smackmanic> hylian: when you jump from 8.04 to the latest ver it messes with your boot options. some weird bug that they haven't taken out
[05:08] <smackmanic> won't recognize the UUID (ubuntu is pretty uuid-centric, which makes it hard for me to understand how to fix the boot)
[05:08] <Random832> smackmanic: just fix it to use the /dev - there's only like two places
[05:08] <smackmanic> and the 2nd to last post has the fix
[05:09] <smackmanic> Random832: right, I believe I'm typing it wrong, though.
[05:09] <Random832> [assuming that you don't have the scsi/usb situation that amkes the uuids necessary]
[05:09] <hylian> smackmanic this should not happen, but i have seen it one time before (don't ask me how) but the uuid changed when i went from ubu 6 to ubu 8.
[05:09] <smackmanic> that's what I've been trying to get help with...I believe I'm editing the boot incorrectly
[05:09] <Gnea> smackmanic: oh WOW, that's quite a problem..
[05:09] <Random832> smackmanic: what are you doing?
[05:09] <itsux2bu> current version of ubuntu?  or most stable version is?
[05:10] <smackmanic> hylian: yeah..seems to be a jump update bug, reccurring, just like me sound modules ;)
[05:10] <hylian> smackmanic have another os you can check the uuid with?
[05:10] <DasEi> smackmanic: see my last comment, from that state can use a manual root (e inn grub), but won't access anything else
[05:10] <smackmanic> not exactly hylian
[05:10] <smackmanic> DasEi: hold on
[05:10] <hylian> smackmanic what happens when you use the generic drive "name" instead, like /dev/sdb1/ ?
[05:11] <chilli0> DasEi, Hey , what you said didn't work =S
[05:11] <smackmanic> DasEi: are you saying e grub is completely useless?
[05:11] <chilli0> ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Invalid argument @DasEi
[05:11] <DasEi> smackmanic: you're currently talking froma box , which os ? usb stick around ?
[05:11] <smackmanic> hylian, i get errors...i think i'm just doing something incorrectly tho
[05:11] <smackmanic> sigh
[05:11] <smackmanic> a box
[05:12] <DasEi> smackmanic: no, it's not, you can pass the location of /boot there
[05:12] <administrador> hola
[05:12] <hylian> smackmanic maybe fstab is screwed up? i had that problem before. an ugly fix is to boot from the ubuntu cd and then copy over the cd's fstab. but it works.
[05:12] <smackmanic> DasEi....okay then...which is what the post is about...
[05:13] <smackmanic> hylian: right, the issue is that this machine does not have enough space for the livecd nor do I have blanks atm
[05:13] <smackmanic> the easiest route would be to CORRECT the boot info and then perm fix it all once ur actually in ubuntu
[05:13] <Random832> what errors? in grub or after?
[05:13] <smackmanic> Random832: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html there ya go mate, have a gander, it's fun to read
[05:13] <hylian> smackmanic, dang. heh, if i was ther i would you damn small linux, cause once it's booted you can remove the cd. lol.
[05:14] <smackmanic> but no, after grub
[05:14] <smackmanic> hylian, lol DSL ftw
[05:14] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, what's the problem you're having?
[05:14] <DasEi> chilli0: did you set a dir /media/media  and owned it to regular user ?
[05:14] <hylian> smackmanic i dont know waht ftw means.
[05:14] <smackmanic> I just want to fix my grub boot options...I'm obviously too stupid to correctly edit it though, I'm either formatting it wrong or something is just 'off'
[05:14] <smackmanic> hylian: for the win.
[05:14] <cwillu_at_work> can't mount the root device or something like that?
[05:15] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: see link.
[05:15] <smackmanic> nope
[05:15] <smackmanic> nothing seems to mount
[05:15] <Random832> ok, what edits are you trying to make to the grub conf exactly? you didn't answer before
[05:15] <cwillu_at_work> do you know what /dev device it usually is?
[05:15] <cwillu_at_work> /dev/sda1 or something like that?
[05:15] <Random832> as in, _what_ exactly did you replace with _what_
[05:15] <chilli0> DasEi, I'm checking that now.
[05:15] <cwillu_at_work> can you boot it from the grub prompt if you edit it from hand at the actual prompt?
[05:15] <administrador> HOLA ALGUIEN HABLA ESPANOL
[05:16] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: I know on this machine ubuntu was installed second. it's a dual boot with windows
[05:16] <DasEi> !es | administrador
[05:16] <smackmanic> so I have to assume sda2, but I could be completely wrong
[05:16] <chilli0> DasEi, Ehhh. It's owned to : 0
[05:16] <Random832> smackmanic: uh... is there a way to check? boot the livecd?
[05:16] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: I'm trying to do that, if I understand you correctly
[05:16] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, I have to run right away, but if you're still around in an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee we can get it fixed
[05:16] <Random832> [actually, fstab _should_ say in a comment]
[05:16] <smackmanic> again, livecd is NOT an option atm
[05:16] <smackmanic> lol
[05:16] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, do you know if you're running grub 1 or 2?
[05:16] <smackmanic> 1
[05:16] <cwillu_at_work> (1.97 or whatever counts as 2)
[05:17] <Random832> smackmanic: well, how _are_ you getting in to edit the conf?
[05:17] <smackmanic> im below 2 for sure
[05:17] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R ('$user') /media/media
[05:17] <Random832> i'm confused now
[05:17] <smackmanic> im just pressing e when im on grub
[05:17] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, are you around in a couple hours?
[05:17] <smackmanic> editing it
[05:17] <smackmanic> then pressing b
[05:17] <hylian> smackmanic i am assuming you tried restoring grub?
[05:17] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: at this rate, eys
[05:17] <smackmanic> *yes
[05:17] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, try variations of root=/dev/sda2
[05:17] <cwillu_at_work> rather than root=UUID=asdfasdfasdfas
[05:17] <smackmanic> hylian: nah uh, I can't update or install anything in this shape..
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> step through 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
[05:18] <Random832> and try different drives, too - sda5 maybe
[05:18] <Random832> if you don't know
[05:18] <itsux2bu> whats  ubuntu server?  is that with a webpage server built-in?  like taking a ubuntu desktop distro and something like apache server and fusing the 2 together?
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> if it doesn't work by five, give up until I get back :p
[05:18] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R $USER /media/media ,wrong os ^
[05:18] <smackmanic> i tried 1 and 2....im not even messing with the UUIDs
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, if you're still in channel, I'll send you a pm
[05:18] <smackmanic> I will say that it automatically goes back to (hd0,4)
[05:18] <chilli0> DasEi, kay. Wont work right now =P I dont have sudo set up.
[05:18] <DasEi> itsux2bu: it's another flavor of ubu, server-orientated
[05:18] <cwillu_at_work> editing it from there isn't permanent
[05:19] <smackmanic> which I'm not sure wth is going on there, i thought it should say 0,0
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, you've been able to boot it though?
[05:19] <itsux2bu> cost money?
[05:19] <smackmanic> cwillu...get those errors and get sent to busybox shell
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> okay
[05:19] <smackmanic> so depends on how ya wanna look at it
[05:19] <DasEi> !who | itsux2bu: nope
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> 0,4 corresponds to /dev/sda5 (a = 0, 4 = 5 (counting from 1 instead of 0)
[05:19] <cwillu_at_work> okay, I'll be back in a bit :)
[05:19] <smackmanic> cwillu_at_work: so mayue 5 then, eh?
[05:20] <cwillu_at_work> smackmanic, can't hurt to try
[05:20] <DasEi> chilli0: how's that ? see man visudo
[05:20] <smackmanic> maybe 5 shall be our lucky number
[05:20] <smackmanic> hylian: I have a question you could probably answer
[05:20] <chilli0> DasEi, Got it now. But still not happening. I tried sudo mount -a
[05:20] <DasEi> chilli0: how did you edit fstab then ?
[05:20] <smackmanic> it's about the formatting of the boot option
[05:20] <itsux2bu> ubottu, if i download ubuntu server.. can i install apache on it?
[05:20] <chilli0> DasEi,  Logged in as root.
[05:21] <itsux2bu> ubottu oh sry
[05:21] <chilli0> DasEi, Still get , ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Invalid argument
[05:21] <DasEi> chilli0: shouldn't do it , give regular user sudo-access
[05:22] <chilli0> Yeah I just did.
[05:22] <DasEi> chilli0: paste fstab line again ? ntfs-3g installed ?
[05:22] <smackmanic> bleh I'll wing it, but I swear I'm formatting the option wrong....but maybe not
[05:22] <adalal> hey, I have a weird problem, each time I hit shut down, it restarts :S any cause? I  think this came out since the last upgrade a couple of days ago
[05:22] <smackmanic> brb
[05:22] <hylian> smackmainc i was trying to dig up a bit of code for grub i found this: /sbin/grub-install --recheck /dev/hda. this sometimes helps. what was your question
[05:22] <chilli0> DasEi, I did install ntfs-3g yeah. http://pastebin.com/7kcUprpQ
[05:23] <Anvoid> i upgraded to a newer kernel, 2.6.35, from 2.6.33. now both my monitor can't be detected using the Monitor manager. is there a way to fix this? if not, how could i revert back to my old kernel 2.6.33?
[05:23] <DasEi> chilli0: that's not the line I gave you..
[05:23] <adalal> anvoid, you can select the older kernel in grub
[05:23] <adalal> and then delete it
[05:23] <chilli0> DasEi,  O= Some one else said to change it after  my bad.
[05:24] <adalal> Anvoid: or rather, apt-get delete the new kernel
[05:24] <DasEi> chilli0: /dev/sdb1  /media/media  ntfs  user,auto  0 0
[05:25] <chilli0> DasEi, Win so far.
[05:25] <chilli0> DasEi, Nop =P Cant open that dir now. ( media/media
[05:25] <Anvoid> adalal: E: Invalid operation delete
[05:26] <adalal> Anvoid: sorry, I mean apt-get remove
[05:26] <chilli0> Perm's changed owner magicly.
[05:26] <DasEi> chilli0: regular username ?
[05:26] <chilli0> media
[05:26] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R NameHere /media/media
[05:27] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chown -R media  /media/media
[05:27] <chilli0> Yeah that will work. But if I reboot?
[05:27] <adalal> Anvoid: sorry, I mean apt-get remove <insert kernel image, kernel headers if installed, and all things related to the .35 kernel>
[05:27] <DasEi> chilli0: it stays
[05:27] <DasEi> and automounts
[05:27] <the_fool> hello everyone trying to watch a movie with the family, but I just found out that plugging in speakers to the lap-top doesn't actually do anything, sound still comes through the laptop I did a quick google search, but couldn't find anything. Does anyone know a quick fix? thanks.
[05:27] <chilli0> Oh call.
[05:27] <adalal> hey, I have got a problem, each time I hit shut down, it restarts :S any cause? I  think this came out since the last upgrade a couple of days ago
[05:27] <chilli0> Cool *
[05:27] <adalal> the_fool: do you have padevchooser installed?
[05:27] <UltraParadigm> How can I add something to my PATH?
[05:27] <ridin> how do i uninstall fonts
[05:28] <the_fool> adalal, give me one sec I'll check
[05:28] <NemesisD> what is the general command line way to set up a bash script to run at startup
[05:28] <DasEi> the_fool: or try pavucontrol
[05:28] <the_fool> adalal, no I'll install it now
[05:28] <adalal> oh yeah, pavucontrol..
[05:28] <ridin> !fonts
[05:29] <adalal> the_fool: dont worry, just start up pavucontrol.. go to output devices, and choose the headphone port
[05:29] <UltraParadigm> !ubottu PATH
[05:29] <adalal> the_fool: headphone would instanteously work for me to, until the last upgrade
[05:29] <DasEi> NemesisD: either generate a script in /etc/init or call it in rc.local (cronjob another option) depends on desired task
[05:29] <smackmanic> anywho. getting error 23 parsing errors on all sd's...i read earlier on the ubuntu site itself actually that grub might throw these errors and others if it weren't run as root.. DasEi mentioned it'd have to already be root considered im editing it..but i am suspicious
[05:29] <hylian_> sorry running android from virtualbox locked up ubuntu, lol.
[05:29] <UltraParadigm> !ubottu path
[05:30] <smackmanic> it's either I'm formatting the strings wrong, (possible) or grub on boot is not root. I'm not familair with grub, so that could be complete rubbish...
[05:30] <the_fool> adalal, k about to try it, hope it works thanks a bunch :)
[05:30] <hylian_> smackmanic actually i read something on it, i thin the command to allow it to run as root is/was chroot /mnt/drive (drive neing like, sda1, etc) but dont quote me on that
[05:30] <Anvoid> adalal: the kernel i'm removing is the one i'm currently running on. if i remove it, will ubuntu revert back to another version automatically or will my system become unstable?
[05:30] <smackmanic> i might even be into rm -rf this thing but hey can't get to /home to backup anything ! lol
[05:31] <adalal> Anvoid: it will become unstable..
[05:31] <DasEi> smackmanic: one last time: in your current state, initramfs drops you to busybox, so any checks necessary won't work from there, so first find a suitable way to acces the fs on the hd
[05:31] <smackmanic> hylian_...I'll google it
[05:31] <cijuc> anyone having bandwidth limited with usb modem connections
[05:31] <adalal> Anvoid: you need to be on a different kernel (ideally, the one that's working properly)
[05:31] <chilli0> DasEi, Sweet as. That seems to have mounted fine and all good. Only thing now is samba not playing nicely with it. path=/media/media/Movies
[05:31] <cijuc> the modem gives around 200KBps on windows
[05:31] <smackmanic> DasEi: yeah...which is why I said earlier, busybox is not so useful IMO
[05:31] <the_fool> adalal, now there's no sound...
[05:32] <adalal> the_fool: even with the headphones?
[05:32] <cijuc> but on ubuntu lucid, its max is around 54KBps
[05:32] <smackmanic> here's a shell, now go boot in livecd. haha
[05:32] <adalal> the_fool: what are the ports present?
[05:32] <thune3> Anvoid: you have 2.6.32/33 old kernel still installed? also (maybe run "sudo update-grub") if it didn't get automatically run after uninstalling 2.6.36
[05:32] <ThePlaneskeeper> I have a server using a 1GB Compact Flash card as the main HDD, with most of the content for the server (IE: var/ folders) on an external HDD (there is logic to this madness).  The 1GB card has become too small (after 4+ years of exceptional service), so now i have a 4GB card, is it possible to just use a command (on a secondary PC running ubuntu with 2 card readers) to transfer everything to the new card, without doing a
[05:32] <UltraParadigm> Is there a command to show/modify the $PATH?
[05:33] <the_fool> adalal, analog headphone and analog otput
[05:33] <the_fool> output*
[05:33] <adalal> do you get sound on the headphones in output?
[05:33] <hylian_> smackmanic anything i can do from here, besides wave my magic wand? i feel for you man, having been in the little or no resources without a paddle boat before.
[05:33] <adalal> the_fool: do you get sound on the headphone on the output port?
[05:34] <DasEi> chilli0: you speak about smb.conf ?
[05:34] <the_fool> adalal, no before I would get sound through laptop even when speakers are plugged in. now I picked analog headphones and when speaker is plugged in I get no sound at all, don't know if this is a step in the right or wrong direction : /
[05:34] <smackmanic> hylian_: bleh I'm just googling this root grub stuff...I had a big suspicious that i needed to do root myself
[05:34] <chilli0> DasEi, This is the part of the file for samba. http://pastebin.com/VzAQP323
[05:34] <smackmanic> but i'd be told twice by someone here that of course grub automatically is root.eh
[05:34] <chilli0> DasEi, Yeah I do =O
[05:34] <adalal> the_fool: no no, what I meant is that did you get sound on the headphones and the speakers on the output mode?
[05:34] <hylian_> smackmanic ohh yeah, in order to use chroot, you have to be root, true. he he, oops
[05:35] <adalal> the_fool: or just the speakers, and not the headphones?
[05:35] <the_fool> adalal, oh, just laptop
[05:35] <hylian_> smackmanic but you are not signed in as grub though.
[05:35] <adalal> the_fool: go on the terminal, and go to alsa_mixer
[05:35] <adalal> wait
[05:35] <smackmanic> hylian_: I'm just so unfamiliar with grub...gotta figure out a way to ensure i'm root when editing grub so i can rule out the errors being bogus
[05:36] <hylian_> smackmanic i could request a cd for you, LOL.
[05:36] <DasEi> chilli0: no blanks guest = ...,  and the subdir Movies exist ? not movies or sth ?
[05:36] <adalal> the_fool: hit 'alsamixer' (w/o the quotes)
[05:36] <smackmanic> because that was the first thing I read on ubuntuhowto guide for grub (yes, I read all of this before asking questions.)
[05:36] <adalal> the_fool: and keep pavucontrol up on the side as well
[05:36] <smackmanic> hylian_, nah, I could get a disk..I'm just trying to fix it in less than a month
[05:36] <hylian_> smackmanic so what happens if you try to sudo su?
[05:36] <chilli0> DasEi, Yeah Movies does exist. I want anyone be able to access that so guest = everyone?
[05:36] <smackmanic> well I have not tried sudo or su in grub cmd line
[05:37] <smackmanic> but busybox does have not sudo or su
[05:37] <smackmanic> *does not
[05:37] <the_fool> adalal, ok got both up
[05:37] <smackmanic> it's actually quite a lazybox
[05:37] <adalal> the_fool: what are the levels in the alsamixer?
[05:37] <timon> sudo makes you superuser
[05:37] <timon> su is used to switch user
[05:37] <smackmanic> timon: I am aware
[05:37] <hylian_> smackmanic busybox? i thought that was another distro, arent you trying to fix a ubuntu grub install?
[05:37] <DasEi> chilli0: guest ok = yes   to guest ok=yes      , and         cd && cd /media/media/Movies            (??/home/media/media/media/Movies!!) works ?
[05:37]  * maco thinks sudo should be aliased to simonsays
[05:38] <teage> Cant watch movie DVDs anymore. Im running Lucid and my movie player starts then suddenly stops. Any help would be greatly helpful.
[05:38] <smackmanic> hylian_: busybox is apparrently what comes up when everything fails
[05:38] <timon> So why you asking?
[05:38] <smackmanic> I'm not entirely should how it's  helpful, because even the busybox defenders tell me to get a livecd.
[05:38] <hylian_> smackmanic hmm, interesting.
[05:38] <the_fool> adalal,  master: 90, headphone: 100  pcm: 99  other 3: 0
[05:38] <DasEi> teage: start vlc from trml,  message error output
[05:38] <BentFranklin> On the brand new installed desktop there's a rectangle called Desktop Folder.  I accidentally X'd it away and can't get it back.  But I can still put icons and files on the background window.  So, what doe Desktop Folder do for me and do I need / should I want it back?
[05:38] <digital_nite> exit
[05:39] <smackmanic> but I appreciate ubuntu not including fsck with busybox. must've slipped their minds when they edited it out of the standard busybox package lol
[05:39] <teage> K DasEi
[05:39] <adalal> the_fool: each time you switch the port on pavucontrol, those levels switch as well... I suggest you try and manipulate some of the levels on alsamixer, esp. the headphone, pcm and other
[05:40] <adalal> the_fool: literally configure the volumes for each port
[05:40] <the_fool> adalal, k i'll check it out, thanks a ton for the support :)
[05:40] <chilli0> DasEi,   cd && cd /media/media/Movies            works fine yes. I think its somethign to do with the perms on the files. Because I have another folder that I'm sharing and the same settings work fine.
[05:40] <hylian_> smackmanic uuis mismatches are way more common than i had come to believe. this might be your problem.
[05:40] <smackmanic> I'll be right back. I need to smoke a nasty cigarette so I can concentrate on reading all this grub info
[05:40] <smackmanic> hylian_: before ubuntu i'd never even seen UUIDs used like this..
[05:41] <DasEi> chilli0: so if no security concerns hinder you, chown the whole /media/media to user media again
[05:41] <smackmanic> so i'm completely unfam with how that all works
[05:41] <chilli0> Shall do.
[05:41] <erik14213us> hi
[05:41] <smackmanic> brb
[05:41] <chilli0> DasEi, In progress.
[05:41] <teage> vlc starts right up in terminal yet when i try playing the DVD this is my output,  main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called
[05:41] <erik14213us> did ubuntu 10.04 fix the karmaic video problem
[05:41] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:42] <smackmanic> glad i didnt get up from sit just yet
[05:42] <hylian_> smackmanic i prefer them, if you have more than one drive like me, and they are mismatches, ubuntu has a terrible habit of turning a sda1 on one boot to a sdb1 on the next, and then ubuntu says it cant mount sda1 because it doesnt exist. uuid stops this, my personal beast.
[05:42] <erik14213us> i tried 9.10
[05:42] <ridin> ok, the sound settings are gone from the panel, how do i add it back
[05:42] <smackmanic> hylian_: ah
[05:42] <erik14213us> an the screen would go black during start up an go no further
[05:43] <hylian_> !uuid
[05:43] <smackmanic> lemme smoke!!!
[05:43] <smackmanic> ahhhhh
[05:43] <smackmanic> =p
[05:43] <ridin> well, what's the command for the sound
[05:43]  * smackmanic is away for the next 5 to 7 mins
[05:43] <erik14213us> im using computer with intel onboard video
[05:43] <hylian_> smackmanic go have a puff and clear your head
[05:43] <ridin> well, what's the command for the sound panel to appear, gnome-sound-indicator-applet?
[05:44] <erik14213us> does anyone know if the start up problem was fixed
[05:44] <MaRk-I> erik14213us: if you get a black screen after grub, reboot and press the shift key then F6 select the first line and add "i915.modeset=0" to the grub after "quiet splash"
[05:44] <erik14213us> anyone here
[05:45] <DasEi> teage : from vlc forums could be a broken disc, did you try to put the video-ts to desktop and play it directly ?
[05:45] <erik14213us> i thought 10.04 fixed that
[05:45] <Guest373> any idea if a canon PG30 cartridge will fit a PG40?
[05:46] <erik14213us> i have no idea on editing grub
[05:46] <MaRk-I> erik14213us: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[05:46] <erik14213us> i thought in 10.04
[05:46] <teage> the disc works fine on my windows machine DasEi. I suspect codecs
[05:46] <erik14213us> the issue would be fixed
[05:46] <DasEi> teage: from the way you asked I assume libdvdcss2 was installed previously, anyway vlc is dvd-able in default
[05:46] <cijuc> where could i get help on net connectivity/bandwidth debugging
[05:47] <erik14213us> its ok
[05:47] <erik14213us> ill reinstall 9.04
[05:47] <DasEi> teage: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:47] <teage> Could be something to with my upgrade too. just recently upgraded from karmic
[05:47] <simbad> Hi after changing the theme color gnome frozed and i had to alt+print+k after that i cannot login to gnome. Im in xterm session now plese help
[05:47] <erik14213us> its sad ubuntu never fixed that issue
[05:48] <Guest373> any idea if a canon PG30 cartridge will fit a PG40?
[05:48] <chilli0> DasEi,  Almost got It. I can now get into the folder and all after chowing the file ( on the client I can open /Movies and see all of the files) But I dont have any permitions to open the file.
[05:48] <smackmanic> nasty addiction. give me a min to read thru some grub info
[05:49] <erik14213us> i guess ubuntu do stupid
[05:49] <ridin> how do i get the sound icon back in the panel?
[05:49] <DasEi> teage: http://pastebin.com/hrd2pQbt
[05:49] <hylian_> smackmanic i think this is kind of a similar problem, and might help you solve your problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/dropped-into-busybox-shell-after-modifying-install-597774/
[05:49] <MaRk-I> erik14213us: I gave you the work around/fix, if you have any more ubuntu problems state them otherwise please use the off topic channel
[05:49] <administrator_> hello
[05:49] <DasEi> chilli0: user media exist on the remote box ?
[05:50] <erik14213us> ubuntu 9.04 aint for newbies
[05:50] <smackmanic> hylian_: I think I may have read that last nite but I will check it out. by the way 'Remember that for grub (hd0,1) means hda (primary controller master), second partition.'
[05:50] <hylian_> erik14213us hey man are you having trouble editing your grub file?
[05:50] <erik14213us> 10.04 aint for newbies
[05:50] <smackmanic> would this mean my second partition is actually hd0,1...?
[05:50] <erik14213us> yes im newbie to all this
[05:51] <DasEi> teage: sudo apt-get --yes install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu libdvdcss2
[05:51] <chilli0> DasEi, On the client?
[05:51] <DasEi> chilli0: yes
[05:51] <hylian_> erik14213us linux is not for newbies. but thats why this chat exists, and there are so many forums, so that your status of newbie quickly vanishes.
[05:51] <chilli0> No.
[05:52] <DasEi> chilli0: so create it , sudo adduser media
[05:52] <erik14213us> i just thought the issue would be fixed
[05:52] <erik14213us> in new releases
[05:52] <DasEi> chilli0: a more dirty way is to make the files world-readable
[05:52] <chilli0> DasEi,  I don't want to have to do that. I am doing this whole thing for a lot of clients , windows , ubuntu , and mac clients.
[05:52] <chilli0> DasEi,  That way sounds best.
[05:52] <DasEi> chilli0: your coice
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> ridin, assuming 10.04 - right click / add to panel / indicator applet
[05:53] <hylian_> erik14213us here is a nice help guide for making additions to grub: http://www.ehow.com/how_2251661_edit-grub-menu-ubuntu.html
[05:53] <chilli0> DasEi, How can I do the second option?
[05:53] <smackmanic> hylian_ 'Remember that for grub (hd0,1) means hda (primary controller master), second partition.' would mean my 2nd partition is hd0,1..or am i reading that wrong
[05:53] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chmod 777 /media/media/Movies/someFile.avi
[05:53] <chilli0> for each and every file?
[05:53] <smackmanic> currently its set to 0,4...that may have been me or it may be a bug or it may be correct
[05:53] <chilli0> Nooooot going to happen =P ( over 400 files there)
[05:54] <erik14213us> ok
[05:54] <ridin> ZykoticK9, there mail icon is there, so it seems i already have the indicator applet
[05:54] <h2oup> hey, im on lucid with a bcm4312 card, and its losing my connection every 30 seconds. the problem persists in the b43, wl, and ndiswrapper drivers
[05:54] <chilli0> DasEi, Wouldn't I just have to change the perm's of guest? Because I'm logging in as guest via samba.
[05:54] <erik14213us> is ubuntu going to fix this
[05:54] <erik14213us> in later releases
[05:54] <smackmanic> erik14213us: ;)
[05:54] <magnesium> Is there any real difference in speed between Software RAID and FakeRAID?
[05:54] <hylian_> smackmanic i think thats right.
[05:55] <simbad> my gnome-seesion uses 100% of cpu and doesent start the desktop. can someone help me please
[05:55] <DasEi> chilli0: keep in mind this is a security risk, you can also do it for all
[05:55] <cjs> chilli0 try chmod 777 *.avi
[05:55] <smackmanic> erik14213us: I'm sure compiz will be improved greatly for sure. but my guess for you, not anytime soon
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> ridin, if you see mail that is correct.  did you try to uninstall pulse audio or something?  how did you loose it?
[05:55] <DasEi> chilli0: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/media/Movies/
[05:55] <hylian_> erik14213us i dont know, but you can report this as a bug, although it might already exist as a bug...
[05:55] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i don't know
[05:55] <smackmanic> hylian_: coincidentally, -this- is reported as bug...and was moved over to questions
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> ridin, is audio working?
[05:56] <erik14213us> it seems there programmers are to stupid to fix it
[05:56] <erik14213us> sorry
[05:56] <chilli0> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/media/Movies/schoolassignmentavi': Operation not supported
[05:56] <jfcaron> If I have a tar.gz (or tar.bz2) archive, is there a way to "untar" it while leaving the files inside compressed with gz (or bz2)?
[05:56] <ridin> ZykoticK9, yep perfectly
[05:56] <hylian_> erik14213us it may be that by fixing your bug they open a whole other can of worms, i don't know.
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, if that is on a FAT/NTFS it won't understand linux permissions.
[05:57] <chilli0> It's NTFS however its mounted under ntfs-3g
[05:57] <MaRk-I> hylian_: stop feeding the troll
[05:57] <KwikkSilva> hmm - this driving me nutes
[05:57] <erik14213us> so linux themn aint for older hardware
[05:57] <erik14213us> ubuntu i meant
[05:57] <Derragon> jfcaron, Considering that the .tar.gz is an archive, you have to decompress the whole thing. If there are compresed files within that, it should not uncompress them automatically.
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> ridin, does "apt-cache policy indicator-sound" show as installed?
[05:57] <hylian_> smackmanic have you ever seen ubuntu's #1 bug? :) it's ms windows. they say the fix is to install ubuntu ;)
[05:57] <KwikkSilva> When theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC
[05:57] <KwikkSilva> any ideas?
[05:57] <picard1421> anyone know anything about pam face authentication im having a problem wiith the KDM plugin???
[05:57] <smackmanic> hylian_: grant you this, ubuntu over windows ANY day
[05:57] <erik14213us> if u got to in an edit grub
[05:57] <fbencosme> hi
[05:57] <DasEi> chilli0: no, once samba let's you acces and list the dir, these are the local permissions then, errm smb.conf >> create mask = 0700  change into 777
[05:58] <hylian_> Mark-I who is thr troll, im just trying to be friendly/helpfull, sorry
[05:58] <jfcaron> Derragon: So I'll have to tar -xzf the archive, then gzip the individual files after that?
[05:58] <smackmanic> even though ubuntu completely screws me over on audio....in ways that it has control over, not an issue of needing to catch up
[05:58] <smackmanic> i still dig it
[05:58] <fbencosme> I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?
[05:58] <sweetpi> chilli0: 777 is world _writable_, you know this?
[05:58] <chilli0> sweetpi, Yes.
[05:58] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i see "Installed: (none)" so i assume i don't have it
[05:58] <Derragon> jfcaron, That seems right, yes. The compressed files have just been put into an archive so you don't have to download them all separately, most likely.
[05:58] <hylian_> smackmanic i had to use 8.04 till 2 months ago. no support for my ati x1300. i finally went nividia.
[05:58] <picard1421> anybody know anyhting about pam face authentication
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> ridin, install it then ;)
[05:59] <chilli0> DasEi,  sudo smb.conf >> create mask = 0700  change into 777     create Perm dened
[05:59] <smackmanic> hylian_: right...i just made the jump from 8.04..ALTHOUGH grub is actually listing it as 8.04 still..
[05:59] <jfcaron> Derragon: Ok thanks.
[05:59] <Derragon> s
[05:59] <fbencosme> somebody help me..! I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?
[05:59] <Derragon> jfcaron, No problem.
[05:59] <smackmanic> will worry about that when i get there lol
[06:00] <Derragon> smackmanic, Updating Ubuntu only updates the actual files, not the entry listed in the GRUB Bootloader.
[06:00] <fbencosme> somebody help me..! I got a problem with MonoDevelop, the Toolbox is empty. How can resolve it?
[06:00] <picard1421> how do you messsage someone in IRC
[06:00] <Derragon> smackmanic, Running grub-update should fix that, though.
[06:00] <h2oup> hey, im on lucid with a bcm4312 card, and its losing my connection every 30 seconds. the problem persists in the b43, wl, and ndiswrapper drivers but not windows
[06:00] <KwikkSilva> When theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC.. anyone know that one?
[06:00] <ridin> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/d4adH2CA
[06:00] <toolbear> picard1421: "/msg <nickname> ..."
[06:00] <hylian_> derragon smackmanic is stuck in busybox because it wont boot fully. grub errors.
[06:01] <DasEi> chilli0: got to restart samba ofter (saved) changes of it's conf.. I'm  off in some time now, smb.conf is self explanatory, and has better and safer ways, too, also see
[06:01] <DasEi> !samba
[06:01] <magnesium> Is there any real difference in speed between Software RAID and FakeRAID?
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> ridin, looks like you have a broken package.  try running "sudo apt-get -f install" and see if it helps.
[06:01] <smackmanic> heh
[06:01] <DasEi> chilli0: I wouldn't recommend SWAT, as it tends to complicate things
[06:01] <chilli0> Ohok.
[06:02] <hylian_> smackmanic thats why if it's at all significant (more than one release) i do a fresh install. to many bugs in gapped distro updates
[06:02] <smackmanic> well, Derragon, that is usual info I was wondering, thanks
[06:02] <Derragon> hylian, What I'm thinking is that GRUB is still trying to load the old kernel, etc. He'd have to update GRUB with all of the information for the current version of Ubuntu, or do a fres reinstall.
[06:02] <smackmanic> hylian_, my other...ubuntu...updates so nicely
[06:02] <ridin> ZykoticK9, just sudo apt-get -f install?
[06:02] <MaRk-I> hylian_: hey dont worry, just that we offered help and instead of trying they just rant and cry
[06:02] <smackmanic> =(
[06:02] <timon> anyone here familiar with the use of awk command.
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> ridin, yup "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:02] <toolbear> say, would someone be able to offer their interpretation of this (chroot problem) http://paste.linuxassist.net/215387 ?
[06:03] <hylian_> MaRk-I: understood, thanx.
[06:03] <smackmanic> what Im thinking is I have 3 different forum posts with the same fix that doesnt require updating grub just yet
[06:03] <chilli0> DasEi,  So basicly I have to change the perms of the files to 777?
[06:03] <smackmanic> however grub update is manual in ubuntu, so even so, i would update..reboot..grub needs to be updated but grub won't boot anything...so that actually makes no sense to me
[06:03] <magnesium> no one here uses RAID?
[06:04] <toolbear> magnesium: no, who'd bother with that?
[06:04] <smackmanic> right now I'm just trying to collect what I need for the next dive.... i guesss hd0,4 needds to be hd0,1
[06:04] <magnesium> toolbear:  Well me, I'm setting up a server for my department.
[06:04] <smackmanic> now i just need to figure out how to make absolutely sure im root using grub so that I'll know the error msgs arent bogus
[06:04] <smackmanic> all about ruling things out
[06:04] <ridin> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/MTSDm5zL
[06:04] <magnesium> Planning on installing Ubuntu Server to a 15,000 rpm SCSI drive
[06:04] <hylian_> smackmanic this is totally not the right way to fix this, but, can you uninstall via apt-get and reinstall grub?
[06:05] <magnesium> and then setting up a RAID 5 array with 4 250 GB drives
[06:05] <Derragon> smackmanic, You should have some form of GRUB's emergency command-line called grub-rescue. Do you get anything like that?
[06:05] <smackmanic> hylian_ not without livecd/usb
[06:05] <toolbear> magnesium: ah, thanks. i've always wondered why people used raid
[06:05] <smackmanic> unless im mistaken
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> ridin, doesn't show any broken packages!  try "sudo apt-get install indicator-sound" again
[06:05] <smackmanic> Derragon, you're the first person who's  mentioned that to me
[06:06] <Speiros> I don't seem to be able to initialise a twin pack cd game on my system.  I am using Ubuntu 10.0.4, and don't know how to install once the prompt comes for the second cd.
[06:06] <hylian_> smackmanic i think Derragon is onto something
[06:06] <smackmanic> im willing to give it a go before i start randomly trying to fix teh boot options again
[06:06] <Derragon> smackmanic, I'm not sure if your GRUB was updated to GRUB2, so, you might or might not have grub-rescue. It's a command line built into GRUB if it fails.
[06:06] <magnesium> toolbear: Yeah, It's going to be for ftp and lamp, so I'm letting the OS run from the 15000 rpm drive and then people can put all their crap on the RAID array.
[06:06] <ridin> ZykoticK9: indicator-applet is already the newest version.
[06:06] <smackmanic> grub is updated manually in ubuntu
[06:06] <smackmanic> the updates do not update grub
[06:07] <fangcheng> a
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> ridin, indicator-applet or indicator-sound?
[06:07] <Derragon> smackmanic, Considering that you are unable to boot, I would assume that GRUB still has a way to fix itself. Or, you can reinstall GRUB to the hard drive via the Live USB/CD.
[06:07] <fangcheng> hello
[06:07] <smackmanic> so I don't know what ver exactly I have, but I'm positive it's not 2
[06:07] <ridin> ZykoticK9, the sound icon that comes with indicator applet
[06:07] <hylian_> i love how all the grub fixes listed online assume you have a ubuntu cd lying around.
[06:07] <Derragon> smackmanic, The GRUB installer is built onto all Ubuntu distributions (as far as I know), so you should be able to just reinstall GRUB via that CD/USB.
[06:07] <smackmanic> hylian_: yah like busybox is so helpful too
[06:07] <tripelb> the daily show videos quit working.  chrome audio keeps ditching. what a keen system. the project that never ends.
[06:07] <jerald> hello guys.. can you help me how can I change my screen resolution to 1920×1200
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> ridin, i thought you said indicator-sound wasn't installed on your system.
[06:08] <magnesium> so no one else here has a RAID array?
[06:08] <dustin> waitt!!
[06:08] <tripelb> jrald I've been trying to get help on that for weeks
[06:08] <dustin>  do do nothin
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> ridin, "apt-cache policy indicator-sound" should show an installed version
[06:08] <Speiros> hylian: What system do you know of that doesn't require it like so?
[06:08] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i said the sound-icon wasn't appearing when i added the indicator applet
[06:08] <smackmanic> Derragon, so basically the older grub doesnt have the emergency/rescue line
[06:08] <vhyzi> a
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> ridin, "Installed: 0.2.3-0ubuntu1"
[06:08] <dustin> recover line when you reboot?
[06:08] <Derragon> smackmanic, As far as I know, no. However since you are online I assume you are able to make a live CD/USB.
[06:08] <hylian_> how do you fix grub without a live cd?
[06:09] <MaRk-I> !raid
[06:09] <jerald> tripelb,  hahaha.. so any luck?
[06:09] <Derragon> hylian_, unless you have another version of Ubuntu or something installed on the same computer, as far as I know... you can't.
[06:09] <ridin> ZykoticK9:   Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.2.3-0ubuntu1
[06:09] <Lym> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick is really confusing, im doing the bottom part where you do it all manually and it just says "Next, you open up the ISO file and extract the files in casper directory. The size (and possibly manifest) are needed if you want to install from the USB drive otherwise the install will error out." but doesn't specify where to put the files, what they mean necessarily by extracting,
[06:09] <Lym> etc
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> ridin, right it's NOT installed on your system - just install it.
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> ridin, good luck.
[06:09] <smackmanic> Derragon: you'd be wrong but I understand the assumption. I would also assume it for someone else.
[06:10] <chilli0> DasEi, How can I samba to give guest access to read , write , list , delete and everything?
[06:10] <magnesium> thx MaRk-I
[06:10] <ridin> ZykoticK9, it says i have broken packages just like the first pastebin, i mean exactly
[06:10] <smackmanic> the issue is that i have at least 3 posts I've found that list the same fix
[06:10] <jerald> did anyone already know how to change screen reslolution
[06:10] <hylian_> Derragon thanks. thats too bad. smackmanic doesnt have a live cd.
[06:10] <MaRk-I> Lym: why dont you try with unetbootin instead?
[06:10] <aaaa> hi all
[06:10] <smackmanic> I believe I'm just doing it wrong
[06:10] <aaaa> chown -R myusername folder
[06:10] <aaaa> it says permsision denied
[06:10] <aaaa> why?
[06:10] <smackmanic> so I need to figure grub out basically.....guess we're gonna go with hd0,1 instead of 0,4
[06:10] <MaRk-I> magnesium: yw and sorry I dont use raid :P
[06:10] <Derragon> smackmanic, Have you considered putting the hard drive containing the affected installation into another computer and fixing it fmo th
[06:11] <BentFranklin> what is the apt command to show all packages I have already installed?
[06:11] <smackmanic> ........
[06:11] <jerald> guys.. I want a 1920×1200 resolution in my netbook
[06:11] <Derragon> smackmanic, Damn this netbook... fixing it from a computer you are able to boot to?
[06:11] <bazhang> BentFranklin, dpkg -l
[06:11] <aaaa> hello?
[06:11] <Lym> MaRk-I, i dont know what that is and the connection im on is PAINFULLY slow
[06:11] <smackmanic> Derragon: if i had another machine around here....
[06:11] <magnesium> MaRk-I:  Yeah most people don't :P I've gotten used to emptyness when asking about it
[06:11] <smackmanic> I'd hook up the ethernet cable
[06:11] <dustin> smackmanic, do you have flash drivers?
[06:11] <smackmanic> and download the liveusb.
[06:11] <smackmanic> heh
[06:11] <MaRk-I> Lym: but you already have the .iso dont you?
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> ridin, can you install libido-0.1-0
[06:11] <giov> What do I need to install into a basic KUbuntu system to make & make install a wifi driver, regarding Kernel source? - anyone have a url with info on that? thanks
[06:12] <smackmanic> so no live, no testy on other machine
[06:12] <Derragon> smackmanic, I am confused... how are you online?
[06:12] <hylian_> smackmanic, i think you have grub, not grub 2. you should boot into grub rescue, not busybox...
[06:12] <Lym> MaRk-I, yes
[06:12] <smackmanic> just grub boot editing
[06:12] <MaRk-I> !unetbootin | Lym
[06:12] <dustin>  usb flash drives?
[06:12] <smackmanic> windows, i have a partition on this machine
[06:12] <Speiros> Is there a chat page that is more specific to my needs?
[06:12] <ridin> ZykoticK9: libido-0.1-0 is already the newest version. libido-0.1-0 set to manually installed.
[06:12] <Mr_Sonoma> giov: you building from source code? if so sudo apt-get install buildessential
[06:12] <antonio_> hey all
[06:12] <bazhang> giov, unlikely you will need to compile it; at worst you would need to install the linux-backports-modules
[06:12] <smackmanic> Derragon: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1454385.html 2nd to last post is the fix
[06:13] <Derragon> smackmanic, Install Linux on your machine via Wubi installer, then use that linux install (which is virtual) to fix GRUB on that machine./
[06:13] <magnesium> hey antonio_
[06:13] <KwikkSilva> When theres a monitor plugged into my Dell 650 - 10.04 gives me a larger resolution - when its headless - it only gives me 800x600 over VNC.. anyone know that one?
[06:13] <MaRk-I> Lym: you're on windows at the moment?
[06:13] <Mr_Sonoma> !hi | antonio_
[06:13] <smackmanic> I'm jsut trying to figure out what boot option I'm messing up...and also if grub is actually in root
[06:13] <giov> Mr_Sonoma: Iḿ following the instructins here:  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=244215 , and
[06:13] <cozone1952> hi could someone tell me how to put in the password in SU comand when ido i get permission denied  help please
[06:13] <Lym> MaRk-I, no im using 9.10
[06:13] <antonio_> I'm trying to make a backup of some folders on my lappy...to an ext hd.  Some files copied over, but a majority of them didn't.  I think it has something to do with the permissions on the drive.  I've tried a sudo naut to change the permissions of the drive...but its a no go
[06:13] <hylian_> smackmanic can you get into windows? this is quite backwards, but with the ubuntu image and virtualbox, you can actually repair some things. ive done it before
[06:13] <smackmanic> Derragon: I don't have the space on here otherwise I'd get the liveusb on here.
[06:13] <bazhang> giov, thats for fedora
[06:13] <giov> and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455649
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> ridin, sorry man - i'm not sure what's up with your system, but it looks like it has something to do with that libido...  whatever that is.  sorry man, i have no idea - hope someone else has something for ya ;)  good luck man.
[06:13] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i did xfce4-volumed which i have but nothing seemed to happen
[06:13] <smackmanic> I think there is a misunderstanding
[06:14] <smackmanic> I have a usb stick that could be used. I -dont- have the space.
[06:14] <Mr_Sonoma> cozone1952: use sudo, there is no root
[06:14] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i know there's a command to hide/show the icon, but i can't seem to remember it
[06:14] <smackmanic> and literally cannot uninstall enough to clear out
[06:14] <MaRk-I> Lym: just d/l the linux version  make it executable http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:14] <Mr_Sonoma> !sudo | cozone1952
[06:14] <Derragon> smackmanic, Man... I really don't see how you got yourself into that situation lol. But now I realize that, since GRUB is just pointing itself to the wrong partition/HDD. xD\
[06:14] <ridin> ZykoticK9, but thanks anyways :p
[06:14] <cozone1952> ok thanks
[06:14] <ridin> hmm, brb
[06:14] <antonio_> anyone have any idea how I can change the permissions on this ext drive?
[06:14] <smackmanic> Derragon: yah... so it's a guessing game... do you know how I go root with grub?
[06:14] <MaRk-I> Lym: actually they have a .deb just download it
[06:15] <hylian_> why is menu.lst blank? i wanted to edit my grub, but it's blank?
[06:15] <tik> sudo chmod -R user:user *
[06:15] <smackmanic> i have a window open reading about grub and its prolly there but i have all this scrollback to read too
[06:15] <bazhang> hylian_, what version of ubuntu
[06:15] <Derragon> smackmanic, GRUB isn't attached to Ubuntu, so you don't need to be root. All you do is have to do is set the root.
[06:15] <hylian_> bazhang 10,04
[06:15] <bazhang> hylian_, its not there. check the grub2 wiki
[06:15] <Derragon> smackmanic, Which is, as far as I know, either your second or third partition. /dev/sda2 (or 3)
[06:15] <bazhang> !grub2 | hylian_
[06:16] <smackmanic> Derragon: okay. well, basically i read that if its not, then the error msgs I get can be bogus
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, i'm not sure if this is going to help you or not BUT: you don't change permissions on drives, you change them on filesystem/mount points.
[06:16] <smackmanic> so I don't know which ones are bogus yet
[06:16] <hylian_> bazhang, thanks, i guess thinkgs change faster than im usual on this os, will do ;)
[06:16] <dustin> smackmanic,do you have a copy of the iso? and which one is it 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:16] <smackmanic> which makes the guessing game useless
[06:16] <antonio_> zykotick9: can you tell me how to do that?
[06:16] <smackmanic> dustin, no iso talks, please. heh
[06:16] <cozone1952> thanks Mr_sonoma
[06:16] <smackmanic> lemme read the scrollback
[06:16] <smackmanic> my head is spinning
[06:16] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, you can try setting whatever has 'root=' in it to 'root=/dev/sda2 or 3. At this point, it's a guessing game.
[06:16] <aaaa> Derragon:
[06:17] <aaaa> hwo do i change chown?
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, where is it mounted?  type "mount" in a terminal if you aren't sure.  and are you sure it's EXT and not VFAT/NTFS?
[06:17] <aaaa> i can't do that
[06:17] <aaaa> permission denied
[06:17] <tik> did you sudo first?
[06:17] <minhthong> how to install open office?
[06:17] <Derragon> aaaa, He's not in Ubuntu. He's trying to boot into Ubuntu, which means he doesn't need to have permission.
[06:17] <hylian_> aaaa, change chown? do you mean how do i use chown to change permissions?
[06:17] <antonio_> it might not be ext zykotick9:
[06:17] <bazhang> mint, which version of ubuntu
[06:17] <minhthong> I have download openoffice already. But i don't know how tu install it
[06:18] <tik> sudo chown -R user:user *
[06:18] <Derragon> minhthing, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org\
[06:18] <bazhang> err sorry mint minhthong which version of ubuntu
[06:18] <aaaa> drwxrwsr-x  18 areshkin gekcogrp     879 Jun 19 19:11 pubs_src
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, "mount" would show you.  if it's not ext i can't help...
[06:18] <tik> where user:user is your login
[06:18] <aaaa> hey hylian_  Derragon
[06:18] <Derragon> minhthing, Without the slash of course.
[06:18] <minhthong> thanks
[06:18] <MaRk-I> minhthong: go to software center, search openoffice, click install
[06:18] <aaaa> there are three set of "xxx"xxx"xxx
[06:18] <smackmanic> Derragon: okay..so..ubuntu was installed second...so we're gonna go with hd0,1 I believe?
[06:18] <aaaa> what does the last one mean?
[06:18] <antonio_> zykotick9: if it wasn't ext would I have been able to add stuff to the drive at all?
[06:18] <tik> everyone can read write and excute
[06:18] <Derragon> smackmanic, /dev/sda1. Ubuntu doesn't work like Windows in that sense.
[06:19] <smackmanic> now...with that being ..uhh my head hurts. could someone find me an example of the boot?
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, yes...
[06:19] <Mr_Sonoma> minhthong: sudo apt-get install openoffice
[06:19] <smackmanic> Derragon, okay, so I WOULD erase HD
[06:19] <antonio_> zykotick9: its a vfat
[06:19] <hylian_> smackmanic not neccessarily, i have 2 hard drives, with multiple partitions, non of which are hd0. all of which are sda, sdb.
[06:19] <Firstgear> anybody know how to align left the title bar text on window frames??
[06:19] <Firstgear> in Gnome
[06:19] <cozone1952> thanks everyone
[06:19] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, no. Changing the root thing is just changing where GRUB will look to grab the boot information.
[06:19] <tik> hylian_: that is because they are SCSI and not IDE no?
[06:19] <dustin> is there a lunix that will recover my data, if i cant boot up?
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, sorry i can't help with that.  good luck.
[06:19] <smackmanic> now im a bit more confused
[06:19] <smackmanic> sorry guys I haven't slept in a little over 48 hrs
[06:20] <smackmanic> running low on brain energy
[06:20] <hylian_> tik actually one is sata and one is ata.
[06:20] <antonio_> zykotick9: just you...or is this something that can't be done?
[06:20] <johnconfey> ........
[06:20] <tik> dustin: any livecd.. i recommend DSL
[06:20] <aaaa> Derragon:
[06:20] <hasek79> how do you get the dvd player to work so i can paly dvd movies?
[06:20] <chilli0> Can some one please help me before I kill my self.  I have set mask to 777 but still I can frking open the files./
[06:20] <smackmanic> I do know for sure that it was SD something before it got effed
[06:20] <tik> thats what i ment sata not SCSI
[06:20] <Derragon> smackmanic, As far as I know, when you updated Ubuntu, the GRUB got a little bugged and is looking to the wrong place to boot up from. Changing root= will make GRUB boot from where you tell it to. Kinda' like with the Windows XP bootloader's thing.
[06:20] <bazhang> !dvd > hasek79
[06:20] <smackmanic> so sd2 would be most likely for a second partition?
[06:20] <Mr_Sonoma> hasek79: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[06:20] <dustin> tik thanks going to check it out
[06:21] <bazhang> Mr_Sonoma, he needs medibuntu for that
[06:21] <Derragon> smackmanic, /dev/sda2 or something should be it, yes. I'm positive it's /dev/sd something.
[06:21] <hylian_> tik, actually, for some strange reason ubuntu refers to them as scsi in several places, although non of them are, i dont try and figure out ubuntu any more, i just go with the flow
[06:21] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, VFAT is microsoft - i don't help with MS compatibility issues (i don't use any MS myself).  VFAT cannot use any linux permissions at all, and the permissions on the drive are determined by the mount command used.  Best of luck.
[06:21] <Mr_Sonoma> bazhang: DOH! forgot that
[06:21] <antonio_> hmm....
[06:21] <bazhang> the !dvd has it though
[06:21] <antonio_> this stinks
[06:21] <tik> hahahah
[06:22] <smackmanic> Derragon: I strongly believe it's 2 or 5, and im leaning towards to but for whatever reason it lists hd0,4 right now. not sure if that was me or a bug or it's correct
[06:22] <antonio_> does anyone have any idea how to change permissions on a vfat formatted drive with ubuntu?
[06:22] <hylian_> anyone have any idea on why android on virtualbox would make ubuntu (the host) hang?
[06:22] <smackmanic> and someone said hd 4 would be sd 4
[06:22] <smackmanic> *5
[06:22] <sweetpi> chilli0: you want a samba share that allows anyone to add/remove files?
[06:22] <smackmanic> but i believe it's 2. 2 sounds more fam (I dont use this machine a lot)
[06:22] <bazhang> antonio_, vfat has no permissions
[06:22] <smackmanic> okay...so....i would edit the hd line? sorry I think I asked this a sec ago....
[06:22] <chilli0> sweetpi, That's what I did say.
[06:23] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, since you're still in Windows, it's going to show it how Windows shows it. Unless you have already pressed e to get into where you need to be, it's not going to show you how GRUB shows it.
[06:23] <smackmanic> otherwise it looks like i'd have two root lines. but I'm not sure
[06:23] <antonio_> bazhang: so am I kind of screwed then?
[06:23] <bazhang> antonio_, care to recap? I missed the earlier bit
[06:23] <smackmanic> Derragon: i've been regularly restarting it and going into edit
[06:23] <sweetpi> chilli0: just making sure, i havent been paying attention
[06:23] <antonio_> well
[06:23] <chilli0> sweetpi, Ok , so you know how?
[06:23] <chilli0> I have set the mask to 777.
[06:23] <sweetpi> chilli0: yes
[06:23] <minhthong> how can i have the help of Ubuntu Vietnam?
[06:23] <smackmanic> Derragon: suspisious that it's returning bogus errors because it's set root
[06:23] <chilli0> =D
[06:24] <smackmanic> so.......okay, gottta try to condense this now
[06:24] <antonio_> I'm trying to make a backup of certain folders (home etc and usr) because this lappy is totally wrecked (screen cracked)...
[06:24] <bazhang> minhthong, /join #ubuntu-vn
[06:24] <MaRk-I> !vn | minhthong
[06:24] <antonio_> I used luckbackup to try to backup the stuff...was getting errors..some of them about chown...etc
[06:24] <sweetpi> chilli0: pastebin your smb.conf, and the permissions that are on the directory you want to share
[06:24] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well... I'd help, but I do need to get going right now. Sorry.
[06:24] <aaaa> hello??
[06:24] <aaaa> anyone here?
[06:24] <smackmanic> haha..perfect timing
[06:24] <chilli0> How can I show the perms from cli?
[06:24] <smackmanic> Derragon: appreciate the piece about the numbers not being updated tho
[06:24] <smackmanic> was worried
[06:25] <hasek79> aslo how do i make myself the owner or the system
[06:25] <hylian_> smackmanic "SCSI or SATA or USB drives will be designated "sda", "sdb", "sdc" and so on." although my eide (ata) is listed as sdb1.
[06:25] <Derragon> smackmanic, No kidding... I'm working on my netbook right now with its install, adding some things and such.
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, "ls -l" that's an L ;)
[06:25] <hasek79> i am the admin but im not the owner
[06:25] <sweetpi> chilli0: ls -ald pathtodirectory
[06:25] <smackmanic> hylian_ positive it's sda....and almost as positive it's 2
[06:25] <ridin> ZykoticK9, i got the sound icon to appear!
[06:25] <chilli0> sweetpi, smb config http://pastebin.com/He2e8MGS
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> ridin, what was it?
[06:26] <Derragon> smackmanic, But, best of luck to you. Hope you get it working.
[06:26] <smackmanic> so..anyway...how do I set the root again? I'm assuming I go into the grub commandline
[06:26] <smackmanic> Derragon: I will. one way or another. rm -rf peace bro
[06:26] <ridin> alt + f2 gnome-volume-control-applet
[06:26] <Derragon> smackmanic, Entering the edit part of GRUB via pressing 'e' during boot. Should be able to edit it from there.
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> ridin, that's the old version... just sayin'
[06:26] <smackmanic> what was the command again?
[06:26] <antonio_> bazhang: any idea how I can actually backup everything I need...my backup drive is a vfat
[06:26] <smackmanic> sorry I know you already answered..so did hylian_
[06:26] <ridin> ZykoticK9: :(
[06:26] <smackmanic> info overload
[06:27] <chilli0> sweetpi,  drwxrwxrwx 1 media root 81920 2010-07-28 23:20  , /media/media/Movies drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2010-07-31 03:38 /home/media/Music
[06:27] <smackmanic> setting the root is going to be the most important part heh
[06:27] <Derragon> smackmanic, Well, you should be getting something that shows you all of the entries or something... I don't know, I never got into it until I was already using GRUB2. Sorry.\
[06:27] <dustin> can anyone tell me whats wrong with smackmanic, computer?
[06:27] <chilli0> Music shares works fine, the other one doesnt.
[06:27] <ridin> ZykoticK9, it's default on start-up, so...
[06:27] <aaaa> hey dude
[06:27] <skumara> i need to know whats the different with ubuntu 32bit and 64bit. I got AMD turion 64x2 in my laptop. Why in the ubuntu download page 64bit in not recommended for daily desktop usage?
[06:27] <redvil> has anyone here tried recording a video using a webcam in linux?
[06:27] <smackmanic> Derragon: already, well, thats what google is for
[06:27] <smackmanic> dustin: we'll get it figured out, im certain its a guessing game after I set the root =)
[06:28] <Lym> MaRk-I, is it supposed to get stuck at 5% for a while?
[06:28] <antonio_> skumara: someone mentioned to me something along the lines of flash not working too well on 64 bit...
[06:28] <bazhang> antonio_, flash stick or actual usb hdd
[06:28] <Derragon> skumara, Most of the people don't have over 4GB of RAM, which is the maximum about 32-bit systems support. if your laptop has over 4GB of RAM, use 64-bit because it supports it. Bye.
[06:28] <antonio_> 500 gig usb hdd
[06:28] <bazhang> redvil, tried camorama?
[06:28] <bazhang> antonio_, why vfat for that and not ntfs?
[06:28] <redvil> bazhang: thnx..i will look into it
[06:28] <skumara> derragon i have just 4GB RAM
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> skumara, personally i think the "not recommended" on the web site is a bug - and look it's already filed as one ;)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[06:28] <hylian_> smackmanic this should get you to be root, (you just arent chaging the root password): http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub
[06:29] <antonio_> I think it came formatted like that..never changed it
[06:29] <MaRk-I> Lym: depends on the USB but yes looks like it gets stuck for a bit
[06:29] <aaaa> hey MaRk-I
[06:29] <aaaa> you here?
[06:29] <aaaa> i can't do chmod
[06:29] <aaaa> why
[06:29] <redvil> bazhang: it says it only captures still images?
[06:29] <aaaa> tell me dude
[06:29] <bazhang> antonio_, well vfat has file size limitations of 4GB iirc
[06:29] <FloodBot1> aaaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <sweetpi> chilli0: and what are the permissions on a file you cant open?
[06:29] <aaaa> bazhang:
[06:29] <antonio_> ah that I can only xfer 4gbs at a time?
[06:30] <smackmanic> hylian_: thanks hylian_, swear my brain is getting sketchy
[06:30] <hylian_> aaaa you might have to sudo chmod.
[06:30] <aaaa> sweetpi: i can't  "chmod"
[06:30] <aaaa> why hylian_
[06:30] <chilli0> sweetpi,  The whole thing is retarded. On music I can't add files but I can remove.
[06:30] <SwedeMike> !details | aaaa
[06:30] <hasek79> ive tried to add a new folder to my desktop pictures folder and it says i cant b/c im not the owner. how do i make myself the owner???
[06:30] <smackmanic> i have to actually type this url out..or this java bs will crash lol
[06:30] <redvil> anyone here knows a app for making videos with webcam?
[06:30] <bazhang> redvil, perhaps I misread your question; did you wish to record your desktop or capture video through your webcam
[06:30] <antonio_> redvil: try cheese
[06:30] <ZykoticK9> aaaa, what filesystem are you using?  you can't chmod on any windows NTFS/FAT filesystems.
[06:31] <aaaa> chmod: WARNING: can't change pubs_src
[06:31] <aaaa> i'm on linux
[06:31] <aaaa> i can't chmod ZykoticK9
[06:31] <antonio_> redvil: go and download cheese..works great
[06:31] <redvil> bazhang: i wanted to record video using my webcam.
[06:31] <aaaa> pubs_src is a folder
[06:31] <tik> try  sud first
[06:31] <tik> sudo
[06:31] <antonio_> devil: go and download cheese
[06:31] <bazhang> !enter | aaaa
[06:31] <redvil> antonio_: thnx..i will try that one
[06:31] <aaaa> ok bazhang
[06:31] <aaaa> ZykoticK9: any clue?
[06:32] <antonio_> bazhang: you were saying...theres a 4gig limit..is that being only able to xfer 4 gigs at a time..
[06:32] <hylian_> aaaa what they mean is are you chmod'ing on a ntfs, a ext4, etc. are you on ubuntu's drive or are you trying to do this on windows drive?
[06:32] <tik> dud you try sudo chmod a+r dir ?
[06:32] <aaaa> Sorry, user "username" is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/chmod 777 pubs_src' as root on shay.ecn.purdue.edu.
[06:32] <shell-fu> how do i figure out the host name?
[06:32] <antonio_> or a max size on a vfag drive of 4gigs?
[06:32] <aaaa> i'm on linux
[06:32] <aaaa> hylian_:
[06:32] <tik> you can chmod on ntfs...
[06:32] <bazhang> antonio_, I was unclear, 4GB file size not transfer
[06:32] <aaaa> tik what you mean?
[06:32] <antonio_> frick...
[06:32] <hasek79> im guessing no one knows then????
[06:32] <aaaa> i don't own the folder
[06:33] <redvil> antonio_: have u tried CHEESE? does it save video in .avi format?
[06:33] <antonio_> bazhang: so each file can be no bigger than 4gb right?
[06:33] <aaaa> someone has the ownership of that folder
[06:33] <sweetpi> chilli0: so your only problem is you cant add files?
[06:33] <bazhang> antonio_, yep
[06:33] <jc1> Which is better ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04??
[06:33] <hylian_> aaaa what they are asking is not what os you are on, but what format the hard drive is where you have your files saved. is it a windows drive? did you format it when you installed ubuntu?
[06:33] <tik> sudo chmod a+r dir
[06:33] <bazhang> jc1, get the more recent version
[06:33] <aaaa> hey hylian_
[06:33] <bareego> hasek79, chown
[06:33] <aaaa> i am newbie to linux
[06:33] <shell-fu> how do i figure out the host name for a network configuration menu??
[06:33] <aaaa> how do i check?
[06:33] <tik> for all read access
[06:33] <MaRk-I> aaaa: you cant chmod files/folders on a server that isnt yours
[06:33] <chilli0> sweetpi, No. I can't play the movies. Music just cant add new files.
[06:33] <aaaa> it's a server
[06:33] <antonio_> bazhang: do you know of any kind of backup program that will backup everything..and when it comes to a file that is larger than 4 gigs, it will split it up...then rejoin it later?
[06:34] <hasek79> i cant add a folder so i can d/l pics to put in it
[06:34] <smackmanic> jc1: if you're updating have a livecd on hand!!! =p
[06:34] <bazhang> aaaa, please stop with the enter key
[06:34] <aaaa> hey MaRk-I
[06:34] <sweetpi> chilli0: what are the permissions on movie file you cant play?
[06:34] <aaaa> only the one who creates the folder can set the permission?
[06:34] <tik> no
[06:34] <chilli0> sweetpi,  Ill see.
[06:34] <tik> root can set it too
[06:34] <aaaa> i don't have root
[06:34] <tik> o
[06:34] <aaaa> except root,who can set it?
[06:34] <MaRk-I> aaaa: that's not ubuntu specific problem, ask your university for permissions (which I doubt they do?)
[06:34] <antonio_> redvil: not sure what format it saves in..check it out....then see if you can export it to a format you can use..or a format that you can change/convert
[06:35] <tik> the owner
[06:35] <aaaa> hey MaRk-I
[06:35] <bazhang> antonio_, not sure of your situation; the drive in question can be reformatted?
[06:35] <chilli0> sweetpi,  There is about 300-400 movies. -rw------- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> 2009-12-12 00:40 /media/media/Movies/assignmnet.avi
[06:35] <redvil> antonio_: ok..thanks again
[06:35] <null> Question:  Are there any known issues with the icons in the notifybar/taskbar becoming invisible?  I'm experiencing it regularly on 2 different machines.
[06:35] <hylian_> aaaa sudo makes you root, unless this server isnt yours. in which case if it is yours, your password would do it.
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, only root can read that assignment.avi file!
[06:35] <bazhang> hasek79, you should be the owner
[06:35] <sweetpi> chilli0: chmod -R a+r /media/media/Movies
[06:35] <antonio_> bazhang: maybe..got to xfer a ton of things to the new lappy..
[06:35] <jc1> bazhang I used to have the 9.04 but I think the karmic was worse than 9.04 (because I can't change the GDM on karmic and another troubles that I had...)
[06:35] <antonio_> guess I'll try that :(
[06:35] <hasek79> but im not
[06:36] <chilli0> sweetpi, chmod: changing permissions of `/media/media/Movies/assigmnet.avi': Operation not permitted
[06:36] <bazhang> hasek79, this is not your computer then?
[06:36] <sweetpi> chilli0: ah.. ntfs?
[06:36] <hasek79> but it is
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, use sudo
[06:36] <chilli0> Yeah.
[06:36] <antonio_> bazhang: if I copy everything over to my new lappy...then format the drive...I can put all of the files on there without any kind of problem, right?
[06:36] <hasek79> there is only 1 user on it and its me
[06:36] <sweetpi> chilli0: paste your fstab entry
[06:36] <bazhang> hasek79, are your permissions somehow messed up?
[06:36] <jibis> Bonjour tout le monde
[06:36] <MaRk-I> chilli0: if I'm not mistaken you have to add users to the samba conf... http://www.bunkerhollow.com/blogs/matt/archive/2010/07/17/ubuntu-10-04-samba-file-share-configuration.aspx
[06:36] <hasek79> idk and idk how to fix them
[06:37] <ZykoticK9> !fr | jibis
[06:37] <bazhang> jibis, english here please; french in #ubuntu-fr
[06:37] <jc1> bazhang and potuguese??
[06:37] <hylian_> i know this is dangerous, but i wuld love a linux distro where the end user has permissions to everything automatically. but the it would be called lindows, right?
[06:37] <chilli0> sweetpi,  /dev/sdb1  /media/media  ntfs  user,auto  0 0
[06:37] <jibis> thank you
[06:37] <bazhang> jc1, #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, you can't apply linux permission to ntfs file systems
[06:38] <jc1> bazhang are you using ubuntu 10.04??
[06:38] <sweetpi> chilli0: close anything accessing /media/media and unmount it
[06:38] <bazhang> jc1, yep
[06:38] <chilli0> ZykoticK9, Even If it's mounted the way I have done it?
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, if it's ntfs it won't work!
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> chilli0, not with chmod
[06:38] <jc1> bazhang is it easy to change the box login??
[06:38] <sweetpi> chilli0: change fstab to say "user,auto,umask=022"
[06:39] <hylian_> chilli0 have you installed ntfs-config?
[06:39] <sweetpi> chilli0: then mount again
[06:39] <bazhang> jc1, the gdm2 greeter? not really, but not an issue as that is on for just a couple of seconds
[06:40] <chilli0> sweetpi, Anyway to force unmount it?
[06:41] <sweetpi> chilli0: yes, but dont. maybe stop samba?
[06:41] <jc1> bazhang I'm installing 9.04 on my pc...
[06:41] <smackmanic> ey hylian...this seems backwards...wants me to set all the boot info correctly before i set the root...?
[06:41] <smackmanic> hylian_: nevermind, missed one sentence
[06:41] <chilli0> Still busy sweetpi
[06:42] <smackmanic> damn, so basically go to recovery mode..
[06:42] <hylian_> smackmanic um, what exactly do you mean? i cant see your current set up, so i wuld suggest currently doing what your gut says to do.
[06:42] <sweetpi> chilli0: lsof | grep /media/media
[06:42] <hylian_> i would love a "my kernel is tainted" t-shirt.
[06:42] <smackmanic> hylian_nah I missed a sentence disregard the statement about it being backwards. or question rather
[06:42] <smackmanic> yes, yes
[06:42] <jc1> bazhang I have the 10.04 but even the live session I tried...but I'll try later
[06:42] <chilli0> sweetpi,  I got 4 entry's , Bash , lsof grep and lsof.
[06:43]  * smackmanic breathes
[06:43] <smackmanic> so recov mode...then guessing game
[06:43] <hylian_> smackmanic how do you emote in irc? i just type
[06:43] <sweetpi> chilli0: ok, you have a shell in the directory. cd /
[06:43] <smackmanic> type /me
[06:43] <chilli0> sweetpi, Done =P
[06:43] <smackmanic> followed by the txt
[06:44] <bazhang> jc1, issue with live cd you could try the alternate cd
[06:44] <chilli0> okay remounted. sweetpi
[06:44] <sweetpi> chilli0: ok check permission on file again
[06:44]  * hylian_ is crossing his fingers for smackmanic
[06:44] <smackmanic> hylian_ my concern now here is....the fix says to edit the root= entry....my root= entry is the one with hd0,4 right now...am i actually erasing the hd part out and replacing it with /dev/sda2 (or whatever mine might be) ?
[06:44] <chilli0> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> 2009-12-12 00:40 /media/media/Movies/assignment.avi
[06:45] <sweetpi> chilli0: ok now you should be able to play the movie
[06:45] <smackmanic> or do I have two root=lines....i didnt quite grasp it earlier when D explained
[06:45] <chilli0> I shall see.
[06:45] <chilli0> Gotta restart samba.
[06:46] <hylian_> smackmanic yes. i think for two reasons, one, 8.04 is grub, 10.04 is grub2. and secondly, ubuntu probably didnt label it hdo,4. as a matter of fact i know it didnt. if anything, ubuntu would have named hd0,4 to hd5.
[06:46] <jc1> bazhang I use to save the image on DVD and when I need to install I create a pendrive boot...
[06:46] <chilli0> sweetpi, Thanks so much. Now should I be able to add new files there also?
[06:46] <smackmanic> im gonna give it a go
[06:46] <hylian_> smackmanic, or sda5, 1 etc, if this is a sata drive
[06:46] <mifadir> hi
[06:47] <smackmanic> hylian_, I recall it being sda something...but
[06:47] <mifadir> if ubuntu's configured like router must i use direct cable or corossover
[06:47] <mifadir> ?
[06:47] <mifadir> ?
[06:47] <FloodBot1> mifadir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <smackmanic> windows could tell me yah? under sys info maybe
[06:47] <smackmanic> i wanna be sure
[06:47] <smackmanic> ill check sys info out now...
[06:47] <hylian_> smackmanic that sounds right. my drives are sda1 and sdb2 respectively, b being my slave
[06:47] <mifadir> any one know answer?
[06:47] <bareego> chilli0, don't think so
[06:48] <chilli0> sweetpi, That's almost all perfect. If I add a new folder with a file it in. It doesn't work. It sets the permitions to owner nobody.
[06:48] <hylian_> mifadir how are you configuring ubuntu as a router? did you mean a firewall?
[06:48] <jc1> mifadir...no
[06:48] <mifadir> forwarding
[06:48] <sweetpi> chilli0: one sec i forget the umask
[06:49] <mifadir> router does not mear firewall?
[06:50] <jc1> mifadir depends...at first do you have any other pc running with another OS?
[06:50] <hylian_> mifadir router's and firewall's are not the same thing. a router dishes out net to other machines, a firewall blocks dangerous ports. most routers have a built in software firewall.
[06:50] <sweetpi> chilli0: oh, i think its 000 for world write
[06:50] <chilli0> sweetpi, So get rid of umask=025 or what ever it is?
[06:50] <smackmanic> this is useful info if you can convert it for me
[06:50] <sweetpi> chilli0: i forgot umask takes away permissions
[06:51] <mifadir> i know that hylian
[06:51] <sweetpi> chilli0: just change to umask=000
[06:51] <smackmanic> in sys info, my linux partition is disk 0 partion 1
[06:51] <smackmanic> *partition
[06:51] <hylian_> smackmainc sda1 sounds right. sda is a sata drive, 1st partition. sdb1 is the slave, first partition.
[06:51] <jerald> I'm still looking for 1920×1200 resolution
[06:51] <jerald> still no luck..
[06:52] <sweetpi> chilli0: make sure to remount
[06:52] <smackmanic> hylian_: appreciate it, hopefully i wont have anymore more questions about this tonite..we'll see in a few
[06:52] <smackmanic> brb
[06:52] <hylian_> crossing the fingers for ya man
[06:52] <chilli0> sweetpi, Restarting now ( the whole server )
[06:52] <smackmanic> ;)
[06:53] <hylian_> mifadir ohh, sorry. maybe i dont undertsand the question...?
[06:53] <sweetpi> chilli0: you only needed to umount/mount
[06:53] <jerald> How can I see what's my mac address of my laptop?
[06:53] <SwedeMike> jerald: ifconfig shows that.
[06:54] <robbiethe1st> Question: I have a 640GB drive, one of three in my machine. I have three partitions on each of them. Recently, the second drive, /dev/sdb stopped showing partitions. I see /dev/sda1-3, but not /dev/sdb1-3
[06:54] <robbiethe1st> /dev/sdb exists, and I can see the partitions with fdisk -l or gparted, but...
[06:54] <jc1> mifadir you use to have a crossover connection between two pc's??
[06:54] <jerald> SwedeMike, I did try it shows command 'tpconfig'
[06:54] <SwedeMike> jerald: no, "ifconfig".
[06:55] <theDom> can someone help me fix the problem where eclipse crashes on startup on 10.04?
[06:55] <bareego> mifadir, for port forwarding you need to enable port forwarding and enable masquerading... you can do it easy if you want with a package called guidedog
[06:55] <jerald> SwedeMike, got it.. thanks..
[06:55] <TheSarge> I have to use Jockey-gtk to uninstall and reinstall my wireless driver just to activate it everytime I reboot, is there any easier way to activate the driver at boot time?
[06:55] <TheSarge> modprobe or something?
[06:56] <sweetpi> TheSarge: echo "drivername" >> /etc/modules
[06:56] <jerald> it shows many number i got inet addr, mask, inet6 and fe96 so which is which?
[06:56] <hylian_> TheSarge could this be because your wireless connection is unencrypted and therefore not trusted? (not a wireless user so i am shooting from the hip on this one)
[06:57] <TheSarge> sweetpi: How can I tell what the drivername is?
[06:57] <chilli0> sweetpi, Yeah I know , But I prefer to restart because then I can make sure it still all works.
[06:57] <jerald> SwedeMike, I got too many numbers.. so which is which here is my mac address?
[06:57] <sweetpi> TheSarge: lshw -C network
[06:58] <bareego> jerald, the one after HWaddr
[06:58] <hylian_> sweetpi lshw isnt automatically installed with ubuntu...
[06:58] <cjae> isnt google earth under partners repo?
[06:59] <jerald> bareego, thanks got ti.. link encap:ethernet HW 00:.... this is my mac address right?
[06:59] <hylian_> cjae i had to use this site to get it: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[06:59] <bareego> jerald, the bit after HW yeah
[06:59] <TheSarge> sweetpi: What it says under product? Thats the driver name?
[06:59] <sweetpi> hylian_: it is.. depended by ubuntu-standard
[06:59] <jerald> bareego, thanks..
[07:00] <sweetpi> TheSarge: you should see driver:
[07:00] <sweetpi> TheSarge: easier way: lsmod | grep mac80211
[07:00] <hylian_> cjae did you see my post?
[07:00] <sweetpi> TheSarge: paste the output
[07:01] <chilli0> sweetpi, And not every thing works =S
[07:01] <sweetpi> chilli0: whats not working?
[07:01] <TheSarge> sweetpi: No output..
[07:01] <SwedeMike> jerald: it's on the first line.
[07:01] <sweetpi> TheSarge: then your wireless isnt up
[07:01] <TheSarge> sweetpi: and there is no driver: in the other output
[07:02] <cjae> brb
[07:02] <TheSarge> sweetpi: I am using wireless to talk to you right now lmao
[07:02] <chilli0> sweetpi, hehe my bad. I knocked out the usb to the external.
[07:02] <sweetpi> TheSarge: you did "lsmod | grep mac80211"?
[07:02] <chilli0> sweetpi, Thanks so much. I gotta go now =P
[07:02] <TheSarge> Want an SS with the wireless icon in the corner and my terminal showing no output for that command lol?
[07:02] <TheSarge> sweetpi: yes lol
[07:03] <sweetpi> TheSarge: .. doesnt make sense. try "lshw -C network | grep driver"
[07:04] <minhthong> how do i install file .deb to?
[07:04] <jerald> SwedeMike,  i got two of them eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:38:7b:15:d6   and eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:73:96:3c:fa
[07:05] <SwedeMike> jerald: yes, they are both your mac addresses on each network port.
[07:05] <smackmanic> haha hylian ran!
[07:06] <TheSarge> sweetpi: there is no driver line in either device.. I am uploading the SS 1 sec
[07:06] <sweetpi> TheSarge: lspci | grep net
[07:06] <TheSarge> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21cdwr8&s=3
[07:06] <zewb> awwww skeet skeet motherfucker
[07:06] <minhthong> every one please help me to install stardic?
[07:07] <zewb> awww skeet skeet god damn
[07:07] <sweetpi> !language | zewb
[07:07] <somethinginteres> hi all, I have configured NVIDIA X Server Settings in Ubuntu such that I can use my tv as a second monitor (TwinView) but despite having my PC monitor set as primary and TV as secondary certain programs and dialog boxes appear on the TV instead of the PC monitor. Any advice?
[07:07] <sweetpi> TheSarge: i see 2 drivers listed there
[07:07] <asdfasdfasdf> hello i have an encrypted file and its corresponing key, when i double click it seahorse opens, asks me for the passphrase and then decrypts the file but if i double click the file again it decrypts it again! without asking me the passphrase so anyone using this pc could decrypt my files without knowing the passphrase, how can i prevent seahorse to remember my password?
[07:07] <TheSarge> sweetpi: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[07:07] <TheSarge> where?
[07:08] <sweetpi> TheSarge: wl1 and r8169
[07:08] <jerald> SwedeMike, thanks.
[07:08] <bareego> he got pci and wireless
[07:09] <sweetpi> TheSarge: wl1 is what your looking for
[07:09] <TheSarge> Where are you seeing this?
[07:09] <TheSarge> w|1 is the name of a driver?
[07:09] <sweetpi> TheSarge: in your screenshot
[07:09] <TheSarge> Where?
[07:09] <sweetpi> lol
[07:10] <sweetpi> the output of lshw -C network
[07:10] <TheSarge> It doesnt say the word driver I greped it twice
[07:10] <sweetpi> it does
[07:11] <blink> hi. sound not working for me! what to do?
[07:11] <TheSarge> anyways waht was that echo command?
[07:11] <sweetpi> TheSarge: echo "wl1" >> /etc/modules
[07:12] <mayank> hey
[07:12] <sweetpi> TheSarge: hang on a sec though. never heard of a driver like that
[07:12] <TheSarge> lmao ya
[07:12] <TheSarge> I had to do some weird ass shit to get this driver working
[07:12] <mayank> @sweetpi  ; can u help me wid a prob
[07:12] <TheSarge> I already ran the commsnf
[07:12] <Suit_Of_Sables> oh woe is me! I need help making taking my OSX install DVD .dmg file and putting it onto my iPod so that I can boot from it. I'm dual booting on my macbook and borked the OSX partition which had rEFIt that I used to boot into linux! I am currently running off a live CD.
[07:12] <sweetpi> TheSarge: well see if it works then
[07:12] <mayank> @sarge : <TheSarg
[07:13] <Suit_Of_Sables> I have done this before in OSX but I'm unfamiliar with ubuntu's disc utility
[07:13] <TheSarge> just reboot?
[07:13] <asdfasdfasdf> hmm i discovered something it says im currently not running any agent to remember passphrases in PGP but clearly they are being remembered. what can i do?
[07:13] <sweetpi> !ask | mayank
[07:13] <mayank> @sarge : need a help in a problem
[07:13] <quakemack> Hello, can anyone help me with a quick question with installing ubuntu from usb please?
[07:13] <cast> asdfasdfasdf: is gpg-agent running?
[07:13] <TheSarge> sweetpi: Just restart?
[07:13] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, how do I change what folder is my Desktop Folder in Ubuntu? For some reason, it changed it so my Home folder is my Desktop folder
[07:13] <sweetpi> TheSarge: yes
[07:13] <mayank> @sweetpi :  i m new user of linux (ubuntu) and i installed software update , on my beta version
[07:13] <smackmanic> in the grub commandline..i type kernal name-ver-info-etc then it should attempt to load it right
[07:13] <mayank> but now i wanna reverse it but i see it on my boot screen
[07:14] <smackmanic> *kernel
[07:14] <mayank> n in updated version
[07:14] <mayank> shutdown doesnt worjk
[07:14] <asdfasdfasdf> cast, yes its in my processes list.
[07:14] <mayank> nor from terminal
[07:14] <quakemack> Hello, can anyone help me with a quick question with installing ubuntu from usb please?
[07:14] <sweetpi> mayank: you mean you updated your kernel and you cant shutdown?
[07:14] <mayank> so how do i uninstal it
[07:14] <mayank> ya
[07:15] <mayank> it hangs up
[07:15] <mayank>  n power reamains on
[07:15] <smackmanic> actually, im basically just asking if kernel load then boot in grub, im running out of options
[07:15] <thune3> !ask | quakemack
[07:15] <sweetpi> mayank: how are you trying to shutdown?
[07:15] <mayank> both gui as well terminal
[07:15] <pawan> hi
[07:15] <mayank> both dont work
[07:15] <quakemack> thank you
[07:15] <pawan> how to upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04
[07:16] <iceroot> pawan: 9.04 - 9.10 - 10.04
[07:16] <sweetpi> mayank: well you could go into grub and select an older kernel
[07:16] <iceroot> !upgrade | pawan
[07:16] <sweetpi> mayank: what computer?
[07:16] <mayank> hw do i go about dat
[07:16] <pawan> no directly from 9.04 to 10.04
[07:16] <quakemack> !ask after i format my usb drive, and put ubuntu  on there for install, what do i do after that? do i reboot and boot from my usb drive?
[07:16] <mayank> p4
[07:16] <iceroot> pawan: not supported
[07:16] <drew3> Quick Question: Gnome-Panel is acting weird       Gvim-xxxxx-session.vim  <---should there be 7 different files in ~/gnome/panel2.d  ?
[07:16] <pawan> then
[07:16] <sweetpi> mayank: restart the computer and press esc while booting
[07:17] <bareego> quakemack, yeah, you might have to change the boot order in your bios
[07:17] <quakemack> thank you!
[07:17] <mayank> i ws hopin of permanent solution
[07:17] <bareego> quakemack, or press some button to bring up a boot meny
[07:17] <bareego> menyu
[07:17] <Suit_Of_Sables> does anyone know how to make an iPod into a bootable install disc from a .dmg file in ubuntu's disc utility?
[07:17] <XrK66> Hey friends
[07:17] <quakemack> !ask if i install ubuntu on a bran new harddrive with a new format, will this alocate all of the install drive for ubuntu. ? this is what i am trying to do.
[07:17] <mayank> @sweetpi : is d solution permannent
[07:17] <sweetpi> mayank: check forums for your specific motherboard and see if anyone else has this issue
[07:18] <Flannel> quakemack: By default it will, yes.
[07:18] <mayank> i think many peop ve
[07:18] <quakemack> ! thank you !!! you guys rock!
[07:18] <sweetpi> mayank: no its just a temporary test
[07:18] <XrK66> Install the backtrack is very cool
[07:18] <XrK66> Install the backtrack is very cool
[07:18] <mayank> bt linux hasnt been able 2 solve it
[07:18] <asdfasdfasdf> cast, i would like to deactivate the remember passphrashe feature, so  I have to manually re-enter passphrase to perform any action. i checked and the process gpg-agent is currently running despite that app telling me its not. any clue?
[07:18] <XrK66> I'm in the pentest leader
[07:18] <pawan> if i have 8.04
[07:18] <pawan> and want to upgrade to 10.04
[07:18] <sweetpi> mayank: what motherboard is it?
[07:18] <pawan> is it possible
[07:19] <iceroot> pawan: that can done directly
[07:19] <cast> asdfasdfasdf: kill it
[07:19] <mayank> @sweetpi dunno bout it
[07:19] <pawan> ok
[07:19] <XrK66> everbody use backtrack?
[07:19] <mayank> pc s at home n i never use it
[07:19] <iceroot> !backtrack | XrK66
[07:19] <asdfasdfasdf> cast, you mean after finsihing performing actions? because i think seahorse would restart it everytime. though ill test.
[07:19] <mayank> dunno hw 2 chk in ubuntu
[07:19] <mayank> windows mein it ws simple
[07:19] <iceroot> mayank: what?
[07:20] <sweetpi> mayank: no idea..
[07:20] <mayank> chk ur motherboard
[07:20] <iceroot> mayank: use normal english please
[07:20] <cellofellow> !u | mayank
[07:20] <mayank> your - ur
[07:21] <XrK66> Hey
[07:21] <spidy> mhm
[07:21] <spidy> :)
[07:21] <iceroot> mayank: again, use nnormal english please
[07:21] <mayank> oks
[07:21] <mayank> :p
[07:21] <cellofellow> It's not like you're typing out SMS on a number pad, you have a full-size keyboard and this is IRC where we talk in full sentences with real words.
[07:21] <mayank> does anyone know how to downgrade a version
[07:21] <XrK66> can only enter the chat for use ubuntu?
[07:22] <iceroot> mayank: not supported
[07:22] <XrK66> can only enter the chat for use ubuntu?
[07:22] <mayank> @iceroot : wat
[07:22] <cellofellow> downgrading is complicated and not recommended.
[07:22] <mayank> is not supported
[07:22] <iceroot> !downgrade | mayank
[07:22] <Flannel> mayank: What do you mean downgrade?  Which version?
[07:22] <sweetpi> !help | XrK66
[07:23] <mayank> i had 9.10 until i had software updates installed
[07:23] <sweetpi> wrong one
[07:23] <XrK66> can only enter the chat who uses ubuntu?
[07:23] <Firstgear> is there a gnome editor in Linux?
[07:23] <Flannel> XrK66: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support, if you're looking for a social channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is where you can go (and no, you don't have to use Ubuntu)
[07:23] <iceroot> XrK66: no, this channel is free for everyone
[07:23] <cellofellow> Firstgear: gnome editor?
[07:23] <iceroot> XrK66: but only used for technical ubuntu support
[07:23] <XrK66> ok, tranks iceroot
[07:24] <mayank> what if i go n install old ubuntu again
[07:24] <mayank> so no updates would be there
[07:24] <iceroot> mayank: why? what is the current problem?
[07:24] <Firstgear> cellofellow: yes that allows editing of themes
[07:24] <mayank> yes hangs wen i shutdown
[07:24] <Jibadeeha> tasksel is dangerous - i won't be using that ever again after it uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and all dependencies without even so much as confirmation dialog
[07:24] <iceroot> !who | mayank
[07:24] <mayank> power off never happens
[07:25] <sweetpi> iceroot: he says he cant shutdown after a kernel update
[07:25] <iceroot> mayank: any errors? acpi enabled in bios?
[07:25] <mayank> @iceroot : i am new kindly elaborate on last point
[07:25] <mayank> thank you
[07:25] <cellofellow> Firstgear: oh. Themes in gnome are a bit of a hodgepodge of metacity themes, gtk themes, and icon sets. There's no GUI editors for metacity and gtk themes afaik, just use a text editor and gimp. Icon sets, those are generally made with inkscape I think.
[07:25] <cellofellow> Firstgear: browse around gnome-look.org if you want some themes.
[07:26] <astropirate> what is the proper way to read/write to the /proc/[PID]/mem interface? when ever i open it up it's empty
[07:26] <Firstgear> cellofellow: thanks
[07:27] <vinnie> Heyo
[07:27] <vinnie> Can anyone help me with my disk issues in ubtunu? I'm trying to ditch MACOSX
[07:28] <vinnie> Macbook Pro 7.1
[07:28] <chris_osx> vinnie: why?
[07:28] <vinnie>  Timing cached reads:   3036 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1519.34 MB/sec
[07:28] <vinnie>  Timing buffered disk reads:   24 MB in  3.20 seconds =   7.49 MB/sec
[07:28] <vinnie> @chris_osx MAMP is frustrating for development
[07:28] <vinnie> I'd rather have something close to our production enviroment
[07:29] <SwedeMike> !details | vinnie
[07:29] <vinnie> @ubotuu you got it
[07:30] <chris_osx> vinnie: ubottu is a bot
[07:30] <vinnie> lol
[07:30] <astropirate> !details | SwedeMike
[07:30] <astropirate> hmm what do you know.. it is a bot
[07:30] <vinnie> I am running ubuntu 10.4 I have a Macbook Pro 7.1
[07:30] <vinnie> 00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 0d85 (rev a2)
[07:31] <vinnie> My disk performance is terrible
[07:31] <vinnie> Anyone able to chime in on how to remedy this?
[07:31] <erik14213us> can grub be edited from gnome
[07:31] <TheSarge> Anyone here tried the hexxeh Chromium OS build?
[07:32] <erik14213us> or has to be done guring start up
[07:32] <bareego> vinnie, if you feel adventurous you could play a bit with hdparm
[07:32] <MHB_> hi all
[07:33] <MHB_> i have ubuntu 10.4 and i need proxy braker
[07:33] <Suit_Of_Sables> argh! ubuntu disc utility cannot format to hfs+! how the heck can I make my iPod into a bootable OSX install DVD from linux!?
[07:33] <vinnie> bareego from what I've read umda6 is already enabled.
[07:33] <vinnie> Any other tricks?
[07:33] <vinnie> I have a fresh backup of the other partition so I am ready to go nuts.
[07:33] <SwedeMike> vinnie: you could try 10.10 alpha and see if that kernel works better. There are some bug reports on launchpad you could explore as well.
[07:34] <vinnie> Amazing if an alpha kernel would be better.
[07:34] <vinnie> Can't I run whatever kernel I want? this is linux
[07:35] <MHB_> how to upgrade ubuntu 10.4 to 10.10