[00:00] <saiarcot895> Xaos: what's the driver?
[00:00] <holstein> Xaos: i need more details to be helpful.. what errors? what package? are you running sudo apt-get update before trying to download?
[00:00] <tomreyn> Xaos: you will need to provide more details, this is much too generic.
[00:01] <tomreyn> it sounds like using a non-packaged non-ubuntu driver. this can cause havoc, depending on whether or not you know what you're doing.
[00:03] <Linus> xaos dmesg will help if you could get the entries from there and paste bin them. Pipe dmesg into tail to as the text log doesent contain all entries. dmesg | tail
[00:05] <Linus> xaos lsmod and lspci | grep ethernet would be useful to
[00:06] <vorlket> using ubuntu 12.04, wanna clone system + data to a new hdd due to disk failure, how do i do it?
[00:07] <saiarcot895> vorlket: assuming you can access the old hard drive, dd might be best here
[00:07] <Linus> vorlket rsync with md5 checksum rather than time/date stamp. Thats what I usually use Dont know any UIs for them though usually run via bash, pascal, or python that Ive wrote.
[00:08] <holstein> clonezilla uses those tools as well, if you are looking for something with a "wizard" type of thing
[00:08] <holstein> vorlket: ^
[00:08] <beandog> ddrescue > dd
[00:09] <Linus> vorlket I could write a ui though, not much verbosity though to much messing with streams.
[00:09] <holstein> !dd
[00:09] <holstein> !info dd
[00:09] <beandog> !info gddrescue
[00:09] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/151127/how-do-i-move-copy-my-entire-ubuntu-system-to-a-different-hard-disk as well
[00:09] <beandog> holstein: I think dd is part of coreutils ... mebbe
[00:10] <holstein> beandog: yeah, im not asking the bot the proper search term...
[00:11] <vorlket> i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 but it doesn't boot, i.e. can't get through the bios
[00:11] <holstein> vorlket: you can try restoring grub, if the OS is there
[00:11] <holstein> vorlket: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for example
[00:12] <Linus> dd is a last resort though? It copies every block over so is hard to recover from unless its individual files, not just slow.
[00:13] <vorlket> ok will try it. so far i tried http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UeRqo-JLv3w for restoring grub but no luck
[00:13] <Linus> vor1let you need to reinstall grub?
[00:14] <holstein> vorlket: i used clonezilla, and had a functional clone
[00:14] <Rallias> Is there any way to statically set the host-side interface name with LXC?
[00:16] <vorlket> ok will try. thanks!
[00:18] <Robdfs> Boot-Repair seems like a scam to me.  The "Recommended Repair" didn't work.  When I sent a detailed email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I got an automated response asking for a "donation".
[00:18]  * beandog donates $1 to /dev/null
[00:18] <holstein> Robdfs: worked for me.. you dont have to use the GUI
[00:18] <Linus> robdfs you trying to reinstall grub completely or just the MBR?
[00:21] <Robdfs> I rebooted after update back in June and got "GRUB RESCUE> prompt."
[00:21] <psilo> Not ubuntu specific, but if it'snot too busy here, can someone explain what's going on here? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&cm_sp=HardDrives15-_-VisNav-_-Desktop&CompareItemList=14%7C22-236-380%5E22-236-380-02%23%2C22-148-765%5E22-148-765-TS&percm=22-236-380%3A%24%24%24%2415%24%24%24%3B22-148-765%3A%24%24%24%2415%24%24%24
[00:22] <saiarcot895> !ot | psilo
[00:22] <beandog> psilo: WD Green are pretty low quality.
[00:22] <beandog> psilo: I wouldn't recommend using them if you really care about your data reliability.
[00:22] <Rallias> You're getting an inferior product for $10 more.
[00:23] <Linus> robdfs this physical or virtual?
[00:23] <beandog> psilo: well, maybe not *that* bad ... I actually use one.
[00:23] <Robdfs> boot repair restored Windows7 boot, but not Ubuntu.
[00:23] <Robdfs> physical
[00:23] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | beandog
[00:24] <somsip_a> ! text
[00:25] <Linus> robdfs when does the boot fail and if you see an error  whats the error?
[00:25] <Robdfs> I got a "GRUB RESCUE> prompt."
[00:26] <Linus> robdfs did you see grub menu or get dumped straight to grub rescue?
[00:28] <Robdfs> dumped straight it
[00:29] <holstein> Robdfs: i would remove the GUI that is giving you issues from the equation and do it manually
[00:29] <Linus> robdfs you might not get anything back what does ls show?
[00:30] <BenLubar> I want to switch from Fedora to Ubuntu, but my internet connection is pretty slow. I already have everything that needs to be backed up backed up. Is there a minimal installer that doesn't include a livecd?
[00:30] <holstein> !mini | BenLubar but, you will need to install things to get a GUI and a "desktop" system
[00:30] <Robdfs> Boot_rescue put notes in this pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724864
[00:31] <BenLubar> ubottu: thanks. I used a minimal install cd to install debian on my server, so I know how this works.
[00:32] <holstein> BenLubar: im not sure you do.. the internet speed will be an issue either before the install, to download the ISO, or after, when you have only the bare minimum
[00:33] <holstein> Robdfs: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using_the_Ubuntu_Alternate_CD *not* using hte boot-repair tool
[00:33] <psilo> at least with the netinstall you can be picky about what you download
[00:33] <holstein> sure, but its not a way to save bandwidth necessarily, if you want a typical desktop install
[00:34] <Linus> Who set that paste bin (I cant remember where) Looks like your MBR is full.
[00:36] <Linus> What is the size of MBR it is 514k?
[00:36] <beandog> 512
[00:36] <beandog> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 would wipe the MBR
[00:36] <beandog> Uh, don't run that anyone.
[00:36] <beandog> that isn't following the chat.
[00:37] <Robdfs> holstein:  Thanks, I think I can follow those instructions
[00:37] <beandog> and make sure you run it on the right hdd device too
[00:37] <beandog> better yet, just ignore me. :)
[00:38] <Linus> I always remeber if and of and what they mean. dd  can be dangerous so never use unless you havent wiped a live server my using misused awk,sed etc
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> beandog: Umm... yeah. That would erase EVERYTHING.
[00:39] <beandog> SonikkuAmerica: no, just the MBR
[00:39] <beandog> er
[00:39] <beandog> And the partition table.
[00:39] <beandog> But the filesystems would still be there.
[00:39] <Robdfs> I had a blank partition (for future OSX) between Windows and Ubuntu, so Ubuntu made a "virtual partition" or something.
[00:40] <Robdfs> That may explain why update corrupted my boot loadrer
[00:40] <Linus> robdfs was it you asked about testdisk?
[00:40] <Robdfs> no
[00:41] <Linus> if  [[ Linus !=10000000]; then; do, echo pwned; done
[00:42] <beandog> Linus: syntax errors :)
[00:42] <Linus> you will see I left a sqaure bracket out too
[00:42] <beandog> -ne, no closing ], no comma after do
[00:43] <beandog> I think != only works on strings doesn't it?  Gotta do it differently for integers
[00:43] <Linus> it works when you "" enclose it
[00:43] <checoimg> Hi everyone, anyone knows good programs for file synchronization ?
[00:44] <beandog> rsync
[00:45] <checoimg> anything else no more options ? just rsync  ?
[00:45] <beandog> that's the only one I can think of
[00:45] <beandog> rsync is pretty powerful.  what features are you looking for?
[00:45] <Linus> you cant beat rsync its the best backup option there is. Getting used is worth it.
[00:46] <checoimg> Two way synchronization
[00:47] <beandog> checoimg: gimme a sample scenario
[00:47] <Linus> you cant beat rsync and what it provides Ive worked for Hosting companies that have sold backup services. None have been better than me writing a bash script
[00:47] <starkiller> hello XD
[00:48] <checoimg> I have two hard disks with new and old files with same name and I want it to check both files an replace the old one with the new one one way or the other
[00:48] <jrib> checoimg: check out unison
[00:48] <beandog> Linus: same, man. ^5
[00:48] <checoimg> I would like a command line version of unison
[00:48] <jrib> checoimg: unison...
[00:49] <starkiller> I have xubuntu only on my laptop, i would like to dual boot with win 7 XD
[00:49] <starkiller> whats the proper way to do it XD
[00:49] <checoimg> First install Windows 7
[00:49] <checoimg> and then ubuntu
[00:50] <checoimg> because Windows 7 erases the master boot record
[00:50] <checoimg> where grub is
[00:50] <checoimg> Grub is OS friendly MBR only accepts window's entries
[00:51] <Linus> windows usually does wipe . If you dual booting install windows first.
[00:51] <checoimg> The problem with unison is that sometimes it saves corrupted directories
[00:51] <checoimg> So I'm lloking for options
[00:52] <checoimg> Or maybe I'll have to make my own synchronization program
[00:52] <jrib> checoimg: what do you mean that it saves corrupted directories?
[00:52] <starkiller> i had win 7 before and the installed xubuntu, and after my win 7 wouldnt boot for some time:P
[00:52] <beandog> You can boot grub from Windows
[00:52] <beandog> Or you can boot Windows into GRUB back into Windows
[00:52] <beandog> Fun stuff.
[00:52] <beandog> Or the other way around.
[00:53] <beandog> Or even throw syslinux in front of all of it.
[00:53] <beandog> I'm probably not helping ...
[00:53] <checoimg> That when you go and try to open it after it was synchronized then the directory doesn't open
[00:53] <mandarg> I'm unable to install zx2c4 (Jason Donenfeld)'s password-store program via apt-get even though this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/1063688 says that the package is in the backports
[00:54] <starkiller> i have done it before with xp, but win 7 its being a *
[00:54] <checoimg> giving and error that says corrupted
[00:54] <starkiller> yea XD
[00:55] <Linus> if your dual booting a windows desktop always defrag and chkdsk BEFORE.
[00:56] <mandarg> hm looks like I hadn't enabled the backports rep
[00:56] <mandarg> *repo
[00:57] <starkiller> i bought a 1 tb harddrive, so i want to get things right before starting to filling it up :P
[01:00] <starkiller> so 1)install win 7 in a clean HD, 2) defrag, and check for errors 3) install ubuntu?
[01:01] <tomreyn> starkiller: i only read the past two lines you wrote, but this sounds like the right order
[01:01] <tomreyn> if you want a dual boot setup
[01:02] <tomreyn> you can do the defrag later, doesn't matter
[01:02] <tomreyn> what's important when installing windows is that you make it *not* use the entire disk
[01:02] <tomreyn> because by default it will
[01:02] <beandog> tomreyn: probably easier to partition it first
[01:03] <beandog> grab a gparted livecd and divvy that sucker up.
[01:03] <tomreyn> can't the windows installer do that?
[01:03] <beandog> I ... don't remember .... :T
[01:03] <beandog> It'd take 5 minutes to do gparted, and about an hour to reinstall Windows so ... I wouldn't risk it :)
[01:03] <tomreyn> neither
[01:04] <afflicto> Hey. Has anyone had experience with strange characters showing up in code? I'm writng php in sublime text and sometimes these non UTF-8 characters (which are invisible) breaks my code. This never happens on windows. thanks in advance.
[01:04] <saiarcot895> tomreyn: it can do part of a disk
[01:04] <tomreyn> well, for you beandog :)
[01:04] <beandog> tomreyn: heh ... yah
[01:05] <starkiller> well ill give it a try and see what happens :P
[01:06] <starkiller> my hd its clean so nothing to lose :P
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> starkiller, Use the manual install with windows, to size it correctly, to avaoid resizing.
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> avoid*
[01:08] <starkiller> lol thanks wilee, this is so exiting lol, i m suck a nerd lol
[01:08] <starkiller> such
[01:08] <checoimg> afflicto : Yes I had that problem
[01:09] <checoimg> afflicto : you have to copy the code until the lines that shows the error and rewrite it
[01:09] <checoimg> That's what I have done
[01:10] <docvell> Just curious...anyone have a network printer that uses a Ubuntu and a Windows system?  (sharing the printer)
[01:10] <beandog> starkiller: more like an apprentice nerd ... you've got a ways to go, yet. :)
[01:10] <beandog> docvell: I have a Brother wireless printer that works great
[01:10] <checoimg> starkiller : Do the partition with gparted Windows 7 installer doesn't do partitions AFAIK
[01:10] <docvell> was it easy to set up?
[01:11] <beandog> docvell: iirc it worked out of the box
[01:11] <docvell> I am thinking of getting a network laser printer for me and my wife...I use Ubuntu and she uses Windows 7
[01:11] <beandog> docvell: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting
[01:11] <beandog> check that out
[01:12] <docvell> thanks :)
[01:12] <beandog> actually this is better http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[01:12] <yr0drag0n> is the puppy ok??
[01:12] <ShippD> having problems with 13.10  all my applications have disappeared in unity any suggestions would be great even when i search no apps come up
[01:13] <docvell> thanks :)
[01:13] <yr0drag0n> puppy linux rocks
[01:13] <beandog> docvell: anyway, there's a lot out there that'd work fine
[01:14] <jjavaholic> ubuntu-desktop?
[01:14] <ShippD> yes
[01:14] <checoimg> ShippD : In the meantime you can try Alt+F2 and typing there the name of the program
[01:15] <checoimg> ShippD : And you should post that on the forums too
[01:15] <docvell> I am glad - just would make it easier than moving our printer back and forth all the time (currently just an ink jet but we want to go to a laser printer someday
[01:15] <jjavaholic> and/or terminal with ctl + alt + T
[01:15] <beandog> docvell: yah, I dig.  I can give you the exact model # I got if you want
[01:16] <deckard_> hello. I am unable to get a video to play on a popular site. Would removing some of the stock software caused this?
[01:16] <ShippD> oh from the terminal ok
[01:17] <deckard_> evermind, was Ghostery
[01:17] <jjavaholic> whereis <<program name here>>
[01:18] <docvell> I don't have the printer yet - there were a few we were looking at (not sure off hand though)
[01:18] <beandog> docvell: I sent you a pm
[01:19] <checoimg> :D My printer is there
[01:19] <checoimg> But LIbre Office doesn't print well
[01:19] <jjavaholic> to look for app to see if it is there.  If it is I would check for unity-lens-applications
[01:19] <checoimg> ONly when I print from a PDF
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | ShippD
[01:19] <ShippD> yes
[01:20] <checoimg> !13.10 | checoimg
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> ShippD, Bots not working, 13.10 is #ubuntu+1
[01:21] <ShippD> ok thanks
[01:21] <client> Hello
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> heh, took the bit 1 minute, lol
[01:22] <client> How do I install the mp3 plugin for xubuntu? I didn't install it when setting up, but now i'd like to install it
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> client, Generally the xubuntu-restricted-extras should cover what you need.
[01:23] <client> where do I find that?
[01:23] <holstein> client: any package manager that you want to use.. or try searching fluendo
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> client, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras  in the terminal or in the software center
[01:23] <holstein> !mp3 | client
[01:24] <lun> client: $ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:24] <client> does it only install the mp3 codecs?
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> holstein, Its the 2 min bot delay. ;)
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> wait......wait it may show
[01:25] <holstein> wilee-nilee: i see that... ;)
[01:25] <holstein> !codecs
[01:25] <lun> client: i think not only, u should read more info about this package etc. in google
[01:26] <client> lun I learned/learnt that you shouldnt tell new ubuntu users to 'google' something
[01:26] <client> !google
[01:26] <holstein> client: its not a "go google this instead of me helping you" thing.. its a, you might want to read about what all is included in that meta-pacakge
[01:27] <holstein> client: if you literally just want mp3 support, there is a fluendo package
[01:27] <client> holstein I'm checking in the repository. It includes flash, etc.
[01:27] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> and ms-fonts
[01:28] <client> it speaks about Java, aren't we suppose to use openJDK instead of Java6 ?
[01:28] <holstein> client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> client: You can use either. Oracle Java is just now running on top of OpenJDK
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> client, The java7 in the repos is basically the same as the proprietary.
[01:29] <client> Ok wait, let me get this straight. Java used to write their own runtime environment before that wasn't 'open source', and then they switched to OpenJDK, which is written by contributors?
[01:29] <holstein> !mp3
[01:30] <holstein> client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:30] <OerHeks> openJDK is the open source version of the vulnerable oracle binairy blob
[01:31] <client> I don't get all these license restrictions on Ubuntu. Linux mint never had any...
[01:31] <holstein> client: mint has the same, just doesnt share the information at install
[01:31] <qin_> OerHeks gets cookie.
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> client, Mint is ubuntu in drag, hardly different.
[01:32] <beandog> lol
[01:32] <holstein> client: the licenses are for the products.. not for the operating system.. they exist and the information is independent of the OS you are using, though you may or may not know about the restrictions
[01:33] <client> Mint is more like a "Home User" type of OS
[01:33] <_joey> what's a cool application to send sms over gsm phone connected to it?
[01:33] <_joey> thanks
[01:33] <_joey> connected to ubuntu
[01:33] <client> yeah, it's weird seeing mp3/mpeg restrictions. Most people probably don't know about them
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> mint is a fork for the gnome2 freaks, and those that can't find codecs.
[01:34] <qin_> _joey: What phone? symbian generation would do with gammu/wammu
[01:34] <holstein> _joey: i use airdroid on my android phone.. that is going to depend on the phone and service you have
[01:34] <client> gnome2 being the stable layout look since XP?
[01:35] <qin_> client: do not mention kde
[01:35] <_joey> qin_: nokia
[01:35] <qin_> _joey: what os?
[01:35] <_joey> there is a connection over 3g
[01:35] <_joey> ubuntu
[01:35] <holstein> _joey: on the phone.. what OS
[01:35] <qin_> _joey: yes
[01:35] <_joey> what do you mean what oS?
[01:35] <client> ive never used KDE, but I was on Mint12 with their fork of gnome3. that thing killed my laptop on wubi install
[01:36] <holstein> _joey: i use andoid.. there are iOS phone from apple.. what do you have on your nokia?
[01:36] <client> Joey are you using a nokia with windows phone or with symbian?
[01:36] <f4r3j4d0r> Hello everyone
[01:36] <_joey> nokia is the hardware device used to connect ubuntu to the internet over 3G
[01:36] <_joey> holstein why would even matter?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> _joey, Little to much to just answer a question. ;)
[01:37] <holstein> _joey: you'll need an application, if there is one, that will communicate with the phone, friend..
[01:37] <client> _joey: in order to send an sms, you will likely need an emulator of the software on your phone.
[01:37] <_joey> holstein: exactly. I need an application. So I asked what application is available, fucktard
[01:38] <client> lol
[01:38] <tomreyn> _joey: look into gnokii, gammu, wammo, smsclient, smstools
[01:38] <holstein> !language | _joey
[01:38] <IdleOne> !language | _joey
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> !language > _joey
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> heh
[01:38] <tomreyn> *wammu
[01:38] <holstein> _joey: that application, will need to communicate with your phone, and i would need to know what OS to make a suggestion
[01:38] <client> poor holstein . so sincere, yet underappreciated
[01:39] <holstein> client: its a good thing im not here for appreciation :)
[01:39] <qin_> _joey: if you asked what system run your phone on by two persons it may indicate that it is revelant to question you asked, buddy.
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> holstein, Heh, those that know respect you. ;)
[01:39] <client> let me go sort my issues out. take care.
[01:39] <holstein> client: good luck
[01:45] <_joey> qin_: it indicates linux community has changed for the worse for whom something as simple as binary leave with too many options
[01:45] <_joey> :)
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> nothing but empty rhetoric
[01:46] <qin_> _joey: dude, sinple question what phone is it: symbian, android or m$?
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> thank god they're gone
[01:47] <qin_> oh... kinda feel like risking kick ;)#
[01:47] <beandog> wat?  did I miss a troll?
[01:47] <beandog> *sniff*
[01:47] <karim_> hi
[01:53] <cyrano_> is there a support channel for PPC?
[01:53] <beandog> ppc?  ick.
[01:54] <beandog> cyrano_: what problem did you run into?
[01:54] <beandog> uh .. just out of curiosity. :)
[01:55] <cyrano_> i have an old iMac G4 I'm trying to install 12.04 on via the minimal install cd. The 32-bit version doesn't boot and the 64-bit cd boots but does nothing after typing install or expert
[01:56] <beandog> Oh okay
[01:56] <beandog> Um
[01:56] <beandog> Sec.
[01:56] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/
[01:56] <beandog> I *just* put it on a g5
[01:56] <beandog> cyrano_: do a server install on 12.10 and try that
[01:56] <OerHeks> those are special comunity build iso's
[01:57] <danes> help, my cdrom is not showing up. I pressed the eject button but it is not responding and I cannot see it on nautilus
[01:57] <danes> what can I do?
[01:58] <beandog> danes: open a terminal and run eject
[01:58] <beandog> or alt + f2
[01:58] <beandog> or whatever it is.
[01:58] <danes> beandog: thanks, that worked
[01:58] <beandog> yay
[01:58] <beandog> danes: some CD / DVD drives automatically "lock" when you close them in Linux.  It's annoying.
[01:59] <danes> beandog: hmm I did not know that...
[01:59] <beandog> danes: there's some way to tell it not to do that .. I was just looking at it the other day .. and can't remember what it was.  I think it was in the man page for eject though.
[01:59] <cyrano_> beandog: is the G5 an intel or PPC?
[01:59] <beandog> cyrano_: ppc64
[02:00] <beandog> cyrano_: I *just* installed an ubuntu on there the other day ... and then I junked the box ... I wish I could remember which version it was, sorry. :T  I know it was really recent.
[02:00] <beandog> so 13.04 or 12.10
[02:01] <danes> beandog: well, the command eject worked to eject the cd but when I insert it back it is locking again and not mounting automatically...
[02:01] <beandog> danes: really?  it's not mounting?  What's in there?  CD or DVD?
[02:01] <danes> beandog: cd
[02:02] <beandog> Odd.
[02:02] <beandog> It worked before, I'm guessing?
[02:02] <beandog> danes: is it a DVD drive?
[02:02] <danes> beandog: yes
[02:02] <danes> its a laptop drive
[02:02] <beandog> Hmm
[02:03] <beandog> danes: open a terminal and run dmesg | grep sr0
[02:03] <beandog> see if there's any kernel flakeouts
[02:03] <danes> beandog: [126944.851537] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB:
[02:04] <beandog> danes: yah, that's a no.
[02:04] <beandog> Oh well.
[02:04] <danes> beandog: that appears many times
[02:04] <beandog> Yah, that's fine.
[02:04] <beandog> That's nothing strange.
[02:05] <danes> I just dont want to restart right nnow as I've been analyzing data for days and I cannot afford to lose it. I need to burn a cd
[02:05] <beandog> Well you should be able to burn one just fine.
[02:05] <beandog> You can always manually mount a CD anyway
[02:06] <danes> I tried with mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[02:06] <danes> but it didnt work
[02:06] <beandog> what'd it do
[02:06] <beandog> run it as root?
[02:06] <danes> I run it as sudo
[02:06] <beandog> kk
[02:06] <beandog> Wait, you will or you did?
[02:07] <th0r> Danes: if you are trying to burn a blank, linux can't mount a blank
[02:07] <beandog> that.
[02:07] <danes> beandog: I did
[02:07] <danes> mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /mnt/cdrom/ busy
[02:08] <danes> then I tried umount and fstab said its not mounted
[02:08] <beandog> like th0r said, are you trying to mount a blank CD?
[02:08] <danes> nope
[02:08] <danes> just any cd and/or dvd
[02:08] <beandog> Hmm
[02:08] <beandog> Try umount /dev/sr0
[02:08] <beandog> Er
[02:08] <beandog> First of all, run mount, see if anything really is mounted
[02:08] <beandog> If it
[02:08] <FloodBot1> beandog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:09] <beandog> If it's not, do a lazy unmount.  sudo umount -l /dev/sr0.  That could clear its head.
[02:09] <danes> ok
[02:09] <beandog> Also make sure you don't have any folders open trying to access the directory that was on the CD.  That could flake it out, too.
[02:10] <danes> ok
[02:10] <beandog> This is probably a good time to mention I tend to use the most complex appraoches first ..
[02:10] <beandog> and I need to leave soon.
[02:10] <beandog> heh
[02:11] <danes> beandog: nope, same thing. I closed all windows and still not responding
[02:11] <danes> beandog: its saying its not mounted
[02:11] <danes> anyways... I'll keep trying
[02:11] <beandog> Okay lemme think.
[02:12] <danes> I even tried removing the drive and reinserting it
[02:12] <beandog> Run sudo lsof /dev/dvd, or on /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom.  See if anything is trying to access it.
[02:12] <danes> but same thing
[02:12] <beandog> Sorry, lsof | grep
[02:12] <beandog> sudo lsof | egrep "(sr0|cdrom|dvd)"
[02:12] <danes> ohhh I think it may be testdisk...
[02:13] <danes> I am analyzing an external hdd
[02:13] <danes> I think I'll have to wait then...
[02:13] <beandog> Okay
[02:13] <beandog> danes: good luck mon, I must leave this planet.
[02:14] <beandog> my stomach needs me.
[02:14] <danes> beandog: peace bro
[02:14] <beandog> gl man
[02:14] <crankharder> is there a good backup manager available?  been using "rsync -av --delete /source /destination", but I fear that doesn't protect me from data corruption on the source drive.  I'd like something that warns me that something has changed in that regard
[02:20] <somsip> !info rdiff-backup | crankharder
[02:21] <somsip> crankharder: with that offering incremental backups, old data is not overwritten.
[02:21] <crankharder> hmm, kinda dont want incrementals for certain folders
[02:21] <somsip> crankharder: it can be customised...
[02:21] <crankharder> like music/video shouldn't change ever
[02:23] <somsip> crankharder: I backup / and /home daily, photos only if changed, and videos manually. All using a combinaton of rdiff-backup and rsync. But anyway, that was just my suggestion to try to help with the issue you wanted to avoid
[02:24] <crankharder> right, but what defines "changed"
[02:24] <crankharder> presumably /source could get corrupted and taht'd trigger a backup, right?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> crankharder, You have it croned?
[02:25] <somsip> crankharder: changed means 'I copy new photos from my camera to my harddrive'...
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> scheduled?
[02:26] <checoimg> How does file corruption trigger a backup ? Does corruption include writing on the file the last modification ?
[02:28] <crankharder> is it not possible that a file gets corrupted and then your backup process recognizes that its changed and overwrites the backup w/ the corrupted file?
[02:29] <checoimg> I don;t think so and in my experience a backup program has never notices changes like that
[02:29] <checoimg> And I have worked with corrupted files
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> crankharder, Theoretically yes, however we are in the ether now with conjecture.
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> you could get hit with an asteroid, theoretically
[02:31] <checoimg> Theoretically ? Theoretically is knowing the code and how the OS and file manager works
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> checoimg, yes master. ;)
[02:33] <checoimg> haha
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> This is support not could this imaginary thing happen.
[02:34] <checoimg> That approach would be the most straight forward. Reading the whole file like doing a MD5 CheckSum
[02:34] <checoimg> to the file and then comparing from there
[02:34] <checoimg> but that would be a huge charge to the CPU
[02:34] <checoimg> and to the system
[02:35] <checoimg> I think the way it does is that the system stores in the file the last modified time to the file on an appended file linked to the file
[02:35] <checoimg> then programs read that file and work form there
[02:35] <MidnightNinja> hey, can anyone tell me how to disable swap through grub?
[02:36] <checoimg> Not a chance to hear swap disabling from me
[02:36] <checoimg> I don;t imagine why would that be useful maybe you can tell me
[02:36] <MidnightNinja> So its not possible?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> MidnightNinja, You can change the swappiness, you would comment it out in fstab
[02:36] <holstein> !swap
[02:36] <MidnightNinja> I finally got grub to boot, and it appears boot hangs on adding swap
[02:37] <MidnightNinja> although, it could be the massive 30GB i allocated to swap, but its been hanging for about 5-10 minutes
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> MidnightNinja, Run blkid and check the uuid in fstab
[02:37] <Coburn> MidnightNinja: afaik the swap is formatted every boot
[02:38] <MidnightNinja> is it possible the swap is being formatted takes longer than 5-10 minutes
[02:38] <holstein> i would resize it to 4 gb's and take up the rest of the space with something useful
[02:38] <checoimg> DO you have 30 GB of RAM ?
[02:38] <MidnightNinja> holstein: the point of this installation is android compillation
[02:38] <MidnightNinja> I have 16GB now
[02:38] <checoimg> That's something I never thought about Linux
[02:38] <checoimg> Yes that's exactly what I want to use 16 GB
[02:38] <MidnightNinja> huh, computer went to black screen
[02:39] <checoimg> since laptops won't get more for a price of 1300
[02:39] <holstein> MidnightNinja: still, you have customized quite a few things apparently.. whats causing the boot issue? not sure.. but i would start with swap, as you are
[02:39] <MidnightNinja> I bought a 1300 lenoyo y510p sli
[02:39] <checoimg> How many processors ?
[02:39] <MidnightNinja> holstein: well a number of issues are going on. #1 its a uefi computer
[02:39] <MidnightNinja> its a 4th gen haswell i7
[02:40] <checoimg> I need 12 cores
[02:40] <checoimg> for rendering
[02:40] <holstein> MidnightNinja: sure, but you knew all of that going in...
[02:40] <checoimg> Well if having a 16 GB swap, I wonder how servers do on this
[02:40] <MidnightNinja> 2) its a dual boot, and grub has been severally messed up through several attempts at installation, and 3) i just got grub to install through hackery with a live usb
[02:40] <MidnightNinja> holstein: yup
[02:41] <MidnightNinja> The issues i expect are though, are the dual nvidia gpus
[02:41] <holstein> MidnightNinja: i have dual GPU
[02:41] <checoimg> you mean SLI  ?
[02:41] <MidnightNinja> yep
[02:42] <checoimg> Ok
[02:42] <MidnightNinja> iirc they are geforce 750ms,. which require nvidia drivers
[02:42] <checoimg> Well MS won;t get a check from me anymore,, I'll buy my computer with Linux pre-installed
[02:42] <MidnightNinja> do you think I should still investigate the swap issue? the boot went to black screen after, which looks like nvidia problem
[02:42] <holstein> MidnightNinja: shouldnt require those drivers to boot.. and that shouldnt have anything to do with grub
[02:42] <MidnightNinja> lol-i know, but Im an engineering student
[02:43] <MidnightNinja> i need to run cad and stuff
[02:43] <checoimg> Architecture ?
[02:43] <holstein> MidnightNinja: what would i do? if you are in the beginning stages, i would refer to the uefi documenation, and try doing a rather generic install.. defaults.. and see how the performance is, and go from there
[02:43] <MidnightNinja> holstein, I replaced quiet splash to nomodeset in the grub
[02:44] <holstein> MidnightNinja: the way i see it, you have quite a few variables.. new OS on new hardware that is questionably supported with lots of custom options in the install
[02:44] <MidnightNinja> holstein: Ive already set uefi up to accept the installation, grub has installed, and when I boot into live usb, the system recognizes the ubuntu installation
[02:44] <checoimg> Yes that's one of the reasons why people stay on Windows
[02:44] <MidnightNinja> holstein: yep, but Ive seen that others have gotten it to work
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> !ot > checoimg
[02:45] <holstein> MidnightNinja: sure.. i'll keep quiet and let you work with the other volunteers.. just keep in mind, it could be your configuration, your customizations
[02:45] <MidnightNinja> holstein, no need to be quiet, I'd just rather assume I can get it to work lol
[02:45] <Coburn> most likely you need to compile the latest kernel
[02:45] <Coburn> since afaik Ubuntu 13.04 was... 3.5x.
[02:46] <holstein> MidnightNinja: thats the issue.. im saying, you are assuming, and you cant.. have to test
[02:46] <Coburn> UNnless I am mistaken
[02:46] <checoimg> Well you should get that partition shrinked
[02:46] <MidnightNinja> I found that someone here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272570/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-lenovo-y500 got the old model to work, which is similar
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, 3.8.0-26 here
[02:46] <MidnightNinja> Okay, I understand you now
[02:46] <checoimg> to much swap it's almost the double that you need
[02:46] <MidnightNinja> holstein: I understand your point now
[02:47] <MidnightNinja> checoimng-I know I need a ton to get a fast android build--my last computer took 8 hours to get a build
[02:47] <Coburn> my new AMD build is UEFI and it runs Mageia Linux fine using GRUB2
[02:47] <MidnightNinja> How would I update the kernel?
[02:47] <holstein> MidnightNinja: i dont think so.. you shouldnt need more swap for that
[02:47] <Coburn> MidnightNinja: you can compile android fine without swap
[02:47] <holstein> MidnightNinja: more swap space shouldnt speed up a build process
[02:47] <Coburn> MidnightNinja:  I've seen sites about an official PPA that you add and you can get linux-image-3.9
[02:47] <Coburn> etc
[02:48] <MidnightNinja> do you think it would help?
[02:48] <holstein> MidnightNinja: try it
[02:48] <Coburn> well 3.8 is eol I think
[02:48] <Coburn> !google
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, For the record non stock kernels are not supported here.
[02:48] <holstein> MidnightNinja: if you know how to purge a PPA and keep multiple kernels
[02:48] <Coburn> wilee-nilee: fiddlesticks
[02:49] <MidnightNinja> I do not know how to do that...I can google and gfind out
[02:49] <varun_> Coburn, as far as I know, repositories are either official or PPAs. There is nothing like "official PPA".
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, Lol, that is the way it is camper. ;)
[02:49] <holstein> !ppa
[02:49] <MidnightNinja> huh
[02:50] <MidnightNinja> hmm
[02:50] <holstein> MidnightNinja: im the kind of guy who will load a live CD with a kernel in it just to see how it supports my hardware
[02:50] <checoimg> Or a Live USB
[02:50] <MidnightNinja> holstein: gotcha
[02:51] <MidnightNinja> The odd thing is that the live usb works perfectly
[02:51] <holstein> MidnightNinja: thats also why i would look at how you have installed it.. when you said "30gb's of swap", i saw red flags
[02:51] <MidnightNinja> I set the swap through gparted, and installed to a 370GB partition
[02:51] <holstein> nuclearbob: there is no reason to do that, and i dont know what else, if anything, you have customized that could be causing issues
[02:52] <holstein> MidnightNinja: i load the installer, and click install.. and my machine, with dual GPU boots.. try doing that.. keep it simple
[02:52] <holstein> nuclearbob: sorry
[02:52] <checoimg> Well bye guys, hope you guys can solve the problem.
[02:52] <holstein> checoimg: cheers
[02:53] <holstein> MidnightNinja: also, if you installed upgrades during the installation, then the installed version is different than the live one
[02:53] <MidnightNinja> holstein: that might explain it
[02:53] <MidnightNinja> Think I should remove the swap, format and try again?
[02:54] <MidnightNinja> without upgrades of course
[02:54] <holstein> MidnightNinja: and keeping it as stock as possible
[02:54] <holstein> if for nothing else, just to learn, and test graphics drivers
[02:54] <nurow> hello, I just installed Ubuntu and installed my drivers and a few applications, updated ubuntu, and the restarted. But when the computer came back up, I now get a permissions error any time that I try to install something in Ubuntu Software Center
[02:55] <holstein> nurow: open a teraminal and type "sudo -i" and share an error
[02:56] <nurow> holstein, no error... and actually it is now working in Ubuntu Software Center... I have no idea what just happened
[02:56] <holstein> nurow: fat-finger is my guess.. cheers!
[02:56] <MidnightNinja> !uefi
[02:56] <nurow> Nah, this was never giving me that login prompt before.
[02:57] <varun_> nurow, it might have figured out that people in IRC are going to torture it ;P
[02:57] <holstein> nurow: this?
[02:57] <nurow> it*
[02:57] <holstein> nurow: it?
[02:57] <nurow> ubuntu software center
[02:57] <MidnightNinja> huh
[02:57] <holstein> nurow: you'll be asked for a password..
[02:57] <MidnightNinja> I just realized something odd-There is no direct option for secure boot in uefi
[02:57] <nurow> i know. this time i got asked for a password. but the first four times it simply said "Permission Denied"
[02:58] <MidnightNinja> at least in my uefi
[02:59] <nurow> so... next issue I suppose. Can anyone point me to the guide that is used to uninstall the "More suggestions" and remove the "Recently accessed files" from everytime I hit the Ubuntu button?
[02:59] <holstein> nurow: what ubuntu button? the main menu in unity?
[02:59] <nurow> yeah
[03:00] <qin_> nurow: so called: dash
[03:00] <nurow> ah
[03:00] <holstein> nurow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86544/how-do-i-delete-the-entire-history-recently-used-items-in-the-dash maybe
[03:01] <qin_> nurow: check settings > privacy
[03:01] <MidnightNinja> anyone here very familar with uefi?  where would I find the option to disable secure boot?
[03:01] <holstein> MidnightNinja: in the bios, AFAIK
[03:02] <MidnightNinja> Im in the bios, but I dont see an option for that
[03:02] <cipherboy> MidnightNinja, holstein is correct, but perhaps if you tell us model of the system, we could help you more.
[03:02] <MidnightNinja> lenovo y510p
[03:02] <holstein> MidnightNinja: might not be.. i dont have UEFI, but i think its really up to the manufacturer
[03:02] <MidnightNinja> the lenovo y500 is a similar model if that helps
[03:03] <holstein> similar likely wont help at all.. unless its *identical*
[03:03] <nurow> boom. thanks guys :)
[03:03] <MidnightNinja> true
[03:04] <cipherboy> holstein, MidnightNinja... Technically Microsoft says that you are allowed to disable secure boot on non-ARM platforms (thus keeping its Surface RT "safe").... And most manufacturers tend to allow secure boot to be disabled.
[03:04] <holstein> its definitely something im going to try and check before i buy anything.
[03:05] <MidnightNinja> cipherboy: interesting-although this is the most mangeled windows installation i have ever seen
[03:05] <varun_> MidnightNinja, does it have win8 preinstalled?
[03:05] <MidnightNinja> varun_:yes
[03:05] <MidnightNinja> varun_ :yes
[03:05] <varun_> MidnightNinja, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Accessing_the_UEFI_settings_from_Windows8 ?
[03:06] <holstein> varun_: thats handy!
[03:06] <MidnightNinja> does that boot into a different access point for the bios?  Ill give it a shot
[03:06] <cipherboy> MidnightNinja, perhaps another link would be http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
[03:06] <holstein> varun_: is that part of all of them? or do you know?
[03:06] <cipherboy> Link was part of this Ask Ubuntu thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/312684/uefi-13-04-install-on-lenovo-ideapad-y510p-boots-windows-instead
[03:07] <Mathisen> i had big problems to make my machine dual boot with windows 8 did not work when i install debian from usb but when i burned it to a dvd it worked ... grub installed itself on the usb .. dont know if the same issue affects ubuntu
[03:07] <Mathisen> and i have uefi bios
[03:08] <varun_> holstein, I have an absolute zero experience with win8 :P
[03:09] <Ace> sup
[03:09] <Ace> I seem to have screwed up my software sources
[03:09] <holstein> varun_: yeah, i have none with UEFI and linux yet
[03:09] <Ace> any ideas how to fix?
[03:10] <holstein> Ace: elaborate on how you have broken them
[03:10] <Mathisen> correction grub did install the uefi boot partition on the usb
[03:10] <holstein> Ace: you can always just grab the proper sources from either the backup you should have made, or from a live CD, or a volunteer, or searching around for them
[03:10] <Ace> Lots of duplicate sources.list entry errors
[03:11] <Ace> holstein, lesson learner -_-
[03:11] <holstein> Ace: i would try to restore to defaul, and get "sudo apt-get update" to complete without errors
[03:11] <Ace> *learned
[03:11] <holstein> default*
[03:11] <Ace> how do? Interwebs weren't much of a help on that
[03:11] <holstein> Ace: assuming you havent installed any/many packages from other sources, you should be albe to make it work
[03:11] <holstein> Ace: what operating system are you using?
[03:12] <Ace> xbmcbuntu
[03:12] <Ace> trying to make an htps
[03:12] <Ace> gave up on mythtv
[03:13] <Ace> tvheadend wasn't working, so now I'm trying VDR
[03:13] <holstein> Ace: in a terminal, run "lsb-release -a"
[03:13] <holstein> but, unfortunately, xbmcbuntu is not ubuntu
[03:13] <Ace> as root?
[03:14] <holstein> so, for example, if you are running xbmcbuntu based on 12.04, you can try a default 12.04 sources file, but you really should ask the xbmcbuntu community
[03:14] <holstein> we dont know what changes they have made to the sources
[03:14] <holstein> and, xbmcbuntu is not supported here...
[03:15] <holstein> Ace: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ could be handy.. but again, you could have need of custom sources from the xbmcbuntu community
[03:15] <Ace> thanks
[03:17] <Ace> any way to adjust the colors on vim to make it more readable?
[03:18] <cxz> any ideas on how i can download a source .deb file and all it's dependencies?
[03:18] <holstein> Ace: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VimHowto might help
[03:19] <holstein> cxz: really depends on the .deb and what it needs..
[03:19] <holstein> cxz: have you used synaptic? there is a "gernerate download script" option you can try
[03:20] <cxz> no i shall try that i guess
[03:21] <MidnightNinja> huh
[03:22] <cipherboy> cxz, what package? if it is one of the ones in Ubuntu, you could look online. If you download the file, `dpkg -I deb.deb` should tell you
[03:22] <MidnightNinja> it appears that when I have legacy first in uefi , grub boots, and when I have uefi first, windows loads
[03:23] <holstein> i think legacy is what you want, as long as that works for you otherwise MidnightNinja
[03:23] <Ace> MidnightNinja, what version of windows
[03:23] <cipherboy> Ace, 8
[03:23] <MidnightNinja> Ace:windows 8, uefi
[03:23] <Ace> Windows 8 uses a uefi bootloader
[03:23] <cipherboy> MidnightNinja, can you boot Win from legacy?
[03:23] <MidnightNinja>  cipherboy: nope
[03:23] <Ace> 7 can be made to use a uefi bootloader
[03:23] <MidnightNinja> windows bootmanager pops up and gets angry
[03:24] <Ace> secure-boot
[03:24] <MidnightNinja> Ace: no visible secure-boot option
[03:24] <cipherboy> MidnightNinja, looks like you should configure grub then to insta boot linux, then use bios to switch, lol.
[03:24] <MidnightNinja> lol
[03:24] <Ace> you can uefi boot grub by adding the secure-boot keys to the bios
[03:24] <MidnightNinja> cipherboy: luckily, lenovo left a bios button on the computer :)
[03:25] <Ace> MidnightNinja, what kind of computer?
[03:25] <holstein> i have a very limited amount of hoops i hop through for windows, personally
[03:25] <MidnightNinja> Ace: Lenovo y510p SLI
[03:25] <MidnightNinja> to add more insult to injury, ubuntu shows up in the uefi list, but boots grub rescue
[03:25] <Ace> you have to add the secure-boot keys
[03:25] <MidnightNinja> when it boots from the hard drive, grub loads
[03:25] <MidnightNinja> how would I do that?
[03:26] <Ace> depends on the machine
[03:26] <Ace> but you are required to be able to...
[03:27] <MidnightNinja> The other issue that Im unsure about is the fact that all partitions seem to be gpt
[03:27] <MidnightNinja> I dont know if that adds another variable to the mix here
[03:28] <Ace> not at all
[03:28] <Ace> uefi/secure-boot/windows 8 requre it
[03:29] <Ace> I wish I wasn't so new to linux
[03:29] <Ace> I'd be more able to explain how to modify grub...
[03:29] <Ace> I could tell you anything you want about windows
[03:31] <MidnightNinja> Ace: how would I modify grub to boot on my system--I've added nomodeset to the kernel entry in gurb
[03:31] <nugga> Hi how to intall ubuntu in my tqblet
[03:31] <Guerrilla_> Can anybody help me setup my dual monitors, on lubuntu, do i just go to the video card website or is there more to it.... atm they are just mirroring each other
[03:32] <earman> hello everyone!!!
[03:32] <nugga> Guerilla type this  in terminal  sudo monitor
[03:32] <nugga> Earman i fuck ur dickman
[03:33] <Guerrilla_> sudo:monitor command not found
[03:33] <cipherboy> Guerrilla_, nugga, fyi... sudo monitor does nothing. Monitor is a part of dmucs, a part of distcc.
[03:33] <cipherboy> [sarcasm] iirc, distributed compiling and configuring dual monitors have little in common
[03:33] <varun_> MidnightNinja, the wiki page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI) clearly states that you must install Ubuntu in the same mode as the pre-installed OS (win8) is, (if you want to boot both). It seems you installed Ubuntu in legacy mode.
[03:33] <earman> what？
[03:34] <earman> shit
[03:35] <MidnightNinja> varun_: would that cause boot issues at all?
[03:36] <tomreyn> earman: basically, the hint given to you was wrong. look into what xrandr can do (and watch your words).
[03:36] <varun_> MidnightNinja, yes it would. But I don't have personal experience with UEFI, so can't say what kind of issues.
[03:37] <varun_> MidnightNinja, are you able to boot normally when BIOS is in legacy mode?
[03:37] <MidnightNinja> I am not able to boot into windows
[03:37] <MidnightNinja> I am unable to boot into ubuntu either, but that is a recurring problem
[03:38] <varun_> MidnightNinja, not even when in legacy mode? (ubuntu)
[03:38] <SunStar> use the windows disk to boot, select repair my computer and select start-up repair
[03:38] <MidnightNinja> varun_:ubuntu has never worked on my computer
[03:39] <MidnightNinja> SunStar: never works for me...lol
[03:40] <varun_> MidnightNinja, do you have boot-info report uploaded somewhere? If not, use boot-repair to generate it, then give us its pastebin link.
[03:40] <MidnightNinja> will do
[03:45] <roothorick> I'm completely at a loss... I put the 12.04 alternate installer on a USB stick, and it boots on every single machine EXCEPT the one I want to actually install on, where I get a generic "please insert a bootable device" message
[03:46] <Konata> roothorick, are there any bootable devices to boot from on that machine aside from usb
[03:46] <roothorick> previously I had the stick set up without a partition table... it tried to boot but I'd get a screenful of "error 0100 reading sector" before I even got the boot menu
[03:46] <roothorick> DVD drive... I don't have any DVD-Rs
[03:46] <Konata> is there a physical hdd in the machine
[03:46] <roothorick> yes
[03:46] <roothorick> already forcibly disabled in the boot order
[03:47] <Konata> okay now stupid question time
[03:47] <Konata> when you plug in the usb drive and power on the computer
[03:47] <Konata> and go to boot selection
[03:47] <Konata> ... does it show up?
[03:47] <Mathisen> yes
[03:47] <roothorick> well I can't find a boot menu in this BIOS
[03:47] <roothorick> but I can go into the setup and it shows it and lets me select a boot "mode"
[03:48] <roothorick> everything gives the message except "Force FDD" which just hangs at a blinking cursor
[03:48] <roothorick> I'm contemplating pulling the damn hard drive out and using a VM to do the initial install
[03:48] <roothorick> drivers will be messed up but eh
[03:49] <virty> trying to get my VM to talk to the other VM, but when I try to ping or tracepath, instead of going to <IP_ADDRESS> it goes to the external IP and, of course, that can't find a local IP...
[03:50] <Rallias> Woot... fresh upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 makes my grandma able to see lips move on her favorite show.
[03:50] <roothorick> yeah, I'm gonna do this the hacky "virtual machine with no disk image" way
[03:50] <roothorick> don't know what else to do
[03:50] <Rallias> roothorick, Eh, the drivers would survive. I've done similar installs in the past.
[03:50] <Mathisen> burn it on cd ?
[03:51] <roothorick> Mathisen: I don't have one available
[03:51] <Rallias> Unless you need a custom driver for your video card or wireless card.
[03:51] <roothorick> well, the vidcard in it, I'm pretty sure is too new for nouveau
[03:51] <Rallias> roothorick, Is your network card supported by ubuntu's installer?
[03:51] <roothorick> Rallias: it's an Intel Pro/1000 series, should be
[03:51] <roothorick> you have a neat trick?
[03:52] <Rallias> roothorick, You could put ubuntu's mini.iso's vmlinuz and initrd.gz in the grub configuration and boot to it.
[03:52] <Rallias> I've done it several times... just not with ubuntu/grub2
[03:53] <roothorick> okay, but how do I boot it?
[03:53] <Rallias> Hold down the key you use to enter grub.
[03:53] <Rallias> I think it's shift... although I may be wrong.
[03:53] <roothorick> how do I boot gcrub?
[03:53] <roothorick> *grub
[03:54] <Rallias> roothorick, Grub is the stage before plymouth.
[03:54] <roothorick> Rallias: I'm aware. But I'm not even getting that far.
[03:54] <Rallias> roothorick, So you are unable to turn your computer on to OS?
[03:54] <cipherboy> roothorick, been a while since I worked on the project, but you could look https://github.com/cipherboy/grubiso for a general idea on booting isos off of hard drives... same concept applies to booting USBs from ISOs. Make it ext2/3/4, shove grub on it, copy a iso there, edit the grub.cfg
[03:55] <roothorick> Rallias: the farthest I've gotten is grub's stage1 tries to load and barfs all over the screen
[03:55] <Rallias> Does it say something like cannot find hard drive?
[03:55] <roothorick> cipherboy: at that point I might as well do the install via VM...
[03:55] <roothorick> Rallias: "error 0100 reading sector XXXXX" over and over and over again
[03:56] <roothorick> Rallias: keep in mind, the same stick boots on my laptop no problem
[03:56] <cipherboy> roothorick, btw, are you using secure boot?  as for install via vm, was pointing to it as a general idea as to how to get the iso to boot perhaps.
[03:56] <roothorick> cipherboy: machine is so old it doesn't know what secure boot is
[03:56] <Rallias> roothorick, Oh... just read back a bit... sounds like syslinux being an issue.
[03:57] <cipherboy> roothorick, good, good. How did you create the usb? LiveUSB or grub to iso boot?
[03:57] <roothorick> cipherboy: the universal USB installer tool for windows
[03:57] <roothorick> I'm gonna go with the VM install
[03:57] <Rallias> roothorick, Yes, a VM would be your best option. It sounds like your motherboard doesn't expose your USB drive as an IDE drive during 16bit mode.
[03:57] <roothorick> I can remove the vbox additions pretty easily
[03:58] <Rallias> You don't need to install it in the first place.
[04:09] <nabn> hi. i have a couple of folders pinned up on the top bar of my  gnome-classic DE. (i dont know what to call it, i guess it's the menu bar) . there doesnt seem to be a way to remove them. Is there no way of doing that?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Try the alt key while clicking, for options.
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91445/how-do-i-remove-an-icon-from-the-top-panel-in-gnome-fallback-mode
[04:15] <Rome> why do ppl use github?? Ugh, why not just make another module.. Not everybody knows how to use github..!!
[04:16] <Rallias> Rome, People use github because it's a big name. It doesn't matter if it's good enough, people just like big names. Like microsoft.
[04:19] <Rome> well.. it sucks, cause these ppl updating stuff with github, and im lost  as to wat to do, do i copy and paste> Am i supposed to dl the module over?  ugh.  Or they say Google. Or READ.. lmao. .. imma just wait till someone i know if online personally so they can explain to me in private.. Dont
[04:19] <Rome> feel like being embarrased
[04:19] <FloodBot1> Rome: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> Rome, This channel is support not rant and swear central, keep the words clean and on topic.
[04:24] <nabn> wilee-nilee, sorry. nothing happens
[04:25] <MidnightNinja> can anyone take a look at this boot info?
[04:25] <MidnightNinja> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5879664/
[04:25] <nabn> wilee-nilee, when i right click-> properties, it says launcher properties
[04:26] <holstein> Rome: i thik code school has free git lessons http://www.codeschool.com/courses/try-git
[04:26] <MidnightNinja> grub is currently installed to hdd, not efi.  Installed ubuntu wll not boot  after  "running /scripts/init-bottom...done"
[04:26] <MidnightNinja> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5879664/
[04:26] <aaas> anyone want to take a stab at my VirtualHost to try and get spike/test/web/app_dev.php to spike/test  (pulled from stackexchange) http://pastebin.com/MqJaFtuX
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> nabn, The fallback session has been changing, I would look on askubuntu using your release and fall back and your problem, if it were me.
[04:27] <nabn> wilee-nilee, thanks. i'll try that out.
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> MidnightNinja, this channel would be the last place I looked for UEFI help, the ubuntu forum has excellent help.
[04:28] <MidnightNinja> wilee-nille: thanks for the advice.  Ill set up a post there
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> MidnightNinja, You want the author of this uefi help thread make sure to have the script you posted in the thread and uefi in the header. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[04:32] <bitbuzzer> hi. what is the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/bin/X11?
[04:33] <varun_> MidnightNinja, I completely agree with wilee-nilee. Oldfred is the best person I know for troubleshooting UEFI issues.
[04:36] <lauratika> i have issues playing this file, totem says Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file. http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000 what can be wrong??
[04:37] <lauratika> em i conected?
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> varun_, Heh, he is the man, in so many ways.
[04:39] <holstein> lauratika: i have only ever used icecast.. i would try a different client to troubleshoot. VLC
[04:39] <varun_> old-freind, for boot problems :)
[04:40] <lauratika> holstein: on clementine cant either play it
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> bitbuzzer, Not really a support question per-say the web might be a better source.
[04:40] <holstein> lauratika: are you sure you set the server up properly?
[04:41] <lauratika> set the server?... this is a link to a radio station. it wont play on any media i have totem and clementine.
[04:41] <p3rf3c7> Hi - I'm trying to use the bash "for" function for filenames contained in a file - 1 per line. Some of the file names contain spaces though, so bash executes each part as a seperate for. Is there a way for me to get around this?
[04:41] <MidnightNinja> sent pm to old fred
[04:41] <MidnightNinja> thanks guys!
[04:42] <MidnightNinja> Im going to turn in for the night.  Thanks for all the help!
[04:42] <holstein> lauratika: i would ask the server maintainer
[04:42] <holstein> lauratika: how are you trying to play it?
[04:43] <lauratika> just open file either on totem or clementine
[04:43] <holstein> lauratika: says "server full" for me
[04:43] <lauratika> oh, ok so i guess is not working rigth?
[04:43] <holstein> lauratika: that is a server side issue that you will not be able to address client side
[04:44] <lauratika> i see, so why totem said i have no permission?
[04:44] <lauratika> just wondering
[04:44]  * holstein shrugs
[04:49] <jtreminio> Good evening. Is apt-get really slow for anyone else right now?
[04:49] <Konata> depends, which mirrors are you using jtreminio /
[04:50] <nurow> Question.. I have installed IceCat, and pinned it to my launcher in Unity. But when I click that icon, it actually creates a second icon on my launcher for the session. If I open the downloads in IceCat, it opens again a THIRD icon on the launcher. How can I fix this?
[04:53] <jtreminio> Konata: hmmm … I'm not 100% sure. it's from vanilla ubuntu installs
[04:54] <Konata> jtreminio, well
[04:54] <Konata> If you want to check
[04:54] <Konata> Open /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <Konata> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[04:54] <Konata> You may find this URL of great assistance
[04:57] <Mesram> No, it's me
[05:01] <cool_boy> Hello mates !
[05:01] <cool_boy> I am on linux 12.04, trying to update but getting error "Requires installation of untrusted packages"
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, You ad any PPA's
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> add*
[05:01] <cool_boy> on terminal I get Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:80:
[05:02] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: how?
[05:02] <ssfdre38> is there a way to send info between 2 servers via ftp or is there another way?
[05:02] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: actually i did not understand , what you mean to say?
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, You might try changing the repo's
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | cool_boy
[05:02] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: No
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, What you show is not a ppa, I would try a new repo.
[05:03] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: how can I try a new repo
[05:03] <cool_boy> what is repo?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, Repositories your computer calls for stuff. You can check and change them in the software center-edit-repo's I believe
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, Some packages may not have keys and be considered untrusted consequently, however if in the ubuntu repos you are safe.
[05:06] <mob001> How to check/find Hadware/software RAID is working or not? Please help me on this..
[05:06] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: I see edit repo's option nowhere
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, First tab in software sources has a option, I'm in W8 at the moment so I have to go from memeory here.
[05:09] <Ben64> Hi. Ubuntu 12.04, HP Probook 6565b. Broadcom 4313 [14e4:4727]. The wireless worked in the livecd, but not in the install. No wireless networks are found, and it is coming up as either eth0 or eth2, not wlan0
[05:09] <PepperoniPizza> Ben64, still at it ? :-(
[05:09] <Ben64> PepperoniPizza: yep, heh
[05:10] <Ben64> if i could just swap out the mini pci-e i would, but apparently HP whitelists certain cards only
[05:10] <oupateddie> I can't seem to get a USB flash drive to mount although it is seen by lsusb from command line
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> oupateddie, Partition type?
[05:11] <oupateddie> Probably FAT16 or 32 and Ubuntu 12.04
[05:11] <oupateddie> It does this with more than one stick
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> oupateddie, how are you trying to mount it?
[05:11] <oupateddie> Putting into the USB slot
[05:11] <oupateddie> Then the system sees the drive/stick but it doesn't come up with filemanager
[05:11] <Random833> have you tried mounting it manually with the mount command?
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> oupateddie, Have you looked in the left panel in home after plugging in?
[05:12] <oupateddie> yep
[05:12] <nurow> Question.. I have installed IceCat, and pinned it to my launcher in Unity. But when I click that icon, it actually creates a second icon on my launcher for the session. If I open the downloads in IceCat, it opens again a THIRD icon on the launcher. How can I fix this?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> sudo mount /dev/sdX/ mnt
[05:12] <PepperoniPizza> wilee-nilee, that won't work
[05:13] <oupateddie> sdx would be c in this case as there are 2 HDD sdba and sdbb
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> sudo mount /dev/sdXX/ mnt  heh
[05:13] <PepperoniPizza> still wrong
[05:13] <oupateddie> let me see
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> PepperoniPizza, Then show us oh great one.
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> lol
[05:13] <PepperoniPizza> sudo mount /dev/sdxx /mnt
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> ah yes well close, lol, no damage done.
[05:14] <PepperoniPizza> if that doesn't work try sudo rm -rf /
[05:15] <PepperoniPizza> jk ;-)
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> !ops | PepperoniPizza
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> !rm
[05:15] <PepperoniPizza> can you calm down kid, I said jk
[05:15] <PepperoniPizza> you know what, don't calm down just enjoy a nice stroke
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> PepperoniPizza, I'm not a kid and if you post that the ops will be called.
[05:16] <PepperoniPizza> ok mr. nilee
[05:16] <oupateddie> no medium found on /dev/sdc when I use that command
[05:16] <PepperoniPizza> oupateddie, sudo fdisk -l
[05:16] <elky> PepperoniPizza: please be actually helpful, not "lol lets trick you into deleting your system"
[05:17] <PepperoniPizza> elky, I said jk immediatly after
[05:17] <PepperoniPizza> oupateddie, it is like /dev/sdc1
[05:17] <PepperoniPizza> likely*
[05:17] <oupateddie> let me check it seems to be sdd
[05:18] <elky> PepperoniPizza: we are a humourless channel and don't allow that "jk"
[05:18] <PepperoniPizza> elky, thats sad
[05:19] <PepperoniPizza> oupateddie, well you can run sudo fdisk -l to find out what it is
[05:19] <oupateddie> let me see now
[05:20] <oupateddie> it sees it at sdd
[05:20] <oupateddie> but still can't see it via file manager
[05:20] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: here is screen shot of sofrware sources http://postimg.org/image/epth1oo75/ade8cae0/
[05:21] <cool_boy> http://postimg.org/image/epth1oo75/
[05:21] <PepperoniPizza> oupateddie, is it /dev/sdd1 ?
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, download from is the option to find the fastest and what repo works for you.
[05:22] <oupateddie> yes
[05:22] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: I can see global server and india server here
[05:22] <PepperoniPizza> oupateddie, where would you like to mount this drive ?
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, open the bottom link in dropdown.
[05:23] <oupateddie> I have checked on gparted but there seems to be an error as there is no file type and an ! shown
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> all the options are on that download from
[05:23] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: I can see "main server", "india's server" and "other" options
[05:23] <oupateddie> thus the disk seems to be a poblem itself
[05:23] <PepperoniPizza> oupateddie, well try this
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> oupateddie, Format it if you need nothing from it in gparted.
[05:24] <PepperoniPizza> oupateddie, does it already have data on it ?
[05:24] <oupateddie> well I have been told there is data on it and I'm trying to get this off the disk
[05:24] <oupateddie> but cannot see anything
[05:25] <oupateddie> might be a virus as it comes from a Windows machine
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, Other options I believe, which will run find the fastest ping or let you choose another.
[05:25] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: well In other options i need to choose one option from the list
[05:25] <cool_boy> which one you suggest?
[05:26] <oupateddie> I have found previously that disks do not display anuthing due to some virus of sorts
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, Yeah, you are just changing the repository somtimes they have problems, you original fail opens here.
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> your*
[05:27] <cool_boy> wilee-nilee: mine is india's server
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> oupateddie, Possible, could be a corrupted partition needing a chkdsk would be my guess.
[05:28] <oupateddie> thanks but I'll return it to the client and get the data on another stick which I know is working.... how do you force a mount. I now have another stick which doesn't want to mount at all
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> cool_boy, Okay, try another, this is a bit of act on your own here to some extent, I have led you to the brook, now yo choose to drink or not. ;)
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> run a update after changing is all
[05:30] <varun_> cool_boy, the original link you got error with : http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en can you open it in browser? I can here.
[05:30] <cool_boy> here is the result of  "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"  http://pastie.org/8144831
[05:31] <cool_boy> varun_: yes I can open
[05:34] <cool_boy> well, nothing helped me !
[05:34] <cool_boy> thanks all
[05:34] <cool_boy> :)
[05:34] <varun_> cool_boy, that looks normal to me. The "untrusted source" problem occurs with PPAs.
[05:34] <cool_boy> varun_: why I am not able to install updates?
[05:34] <varun_> cool_boy, the error message you receive, does it give you details?
[05:35] <cool_boy> you know what, I am not able to ping to the server from where the updates will be installed
[05:35] <varun_> which one?
[05:35] <cool_boy> it says Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:35] <cool_boy> and connection time outs
[05:35] <cool_boy> probably it checks on port 80
[05:35] <varun_> cool_boy, that is clearly a local address, not a remote server.
[05:36] <cool_boy> and it seems local address
[05:36] <Nmbr1> cool_boy: unless you changed the protocol in /etc/apt/sourcs.list it is going to try to connect over tcp 80
[05:36] <cool_boy> i dont know why it is local
[05:36] <cool_boy> Nmbr1: I did not change
[05:36] <cool_boy> it looks at 80 and server address it looks for is a local address
[05:36] <Nmbr1> it looks for a local address?
[05:37] <varun_> cool_boy, do you have any PPAs added manually? (Other software tab in Software sources box)
[05:37] <cool_boy> Nmbr1: yes . <IP_ADDRESS> is a local address
[05:37] <Kartagis> gm
[05:37] <cool_boy> varun_: no i never did
[05:37] <Kartagis> good morning
[05:37] <cool_boy> Kartagis: Good Morning :)
[05:37] <varun_> cool_boy, can you show us "ls -1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[05:37] <Kartagis> why would icons turn into question mark icons?
[05:37] <Nmbr1> cool_boy: unless you are running your own update server at that address or you are updating through a proxy it shouldn't try to contact that address
[05:38] <cool_boy> varun_: http://pastie.org/8144843
[05:38] <cool_boy> Nmbr1: probably it is because I am in a proxy enabled network
[05:39] <cool_boy> still I am not sure, it should serach pacakages on a local address
[05:39] <roothorick> okay what the hell. I thought the alternate installer was for customizing what's installed? It's pretty much making a full-blown desktop install. I don't need nautilus for this!
[05:40] <varun_> cool_boy, what is that "clipgrab-team-ppa-precise.list" for? If not sure, post back "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/clipgrab-team-ppa-precise.list". Same for the other one also, in the same pastebin link :)
[05:41] <cool_boy> varun_: first one returns
[05:41] <cool_boy> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[05:41] <cool_boy> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[05:41] <cool_boy> for second (.save)
[05:41] <cool_boy> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[05:41] <cool_boy> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[05:42] <Nmbr1> cool_boy: that makes more sense
[05:42] <cool_boy> Nmbr1: yes it makes sense but the local address doesn't
[05:42] <cool_boy> :(
[05:43] <varun_> cool_boy, what does "nslookup archive.ubuntu.com" return?
[05:44] <roothorick> oh whatever, I'll strip the installation once it's up
[05:44] <roothorick> aptitude search ~i !~M ftw
[05:44] <sydnerdrage> How does one specify the PPA for a package to install?  I have 2 PPA's with a common package at different versions and I'm a little confused.
[05:45] <cool_boy> varun_: http://pastebin.com/H9gxM8uW
[05:48] <varun_> cool_boy, do you have synaptic installed? It would be easier to check proxy settings there.
[05:48] <cool_boy> varun_: I guess no
[05:48] <cool_boy> you think i should install
[05:49] <varun_> cool_boy, No, that's not necessary. I asked because I don't know the commandline way to check that. Perhaps "ls /etc/apt/preferences.d/" ? any output
[05:50] <cool_boy> varun_: no output boss
[05:50] <varun_> :(
[05:51] <cool_boy> varun_: for me not possible to install, same problem requires untrusted packages :)
[05:51] <cool_boy> varun_: I guess , I have wasted your enough time
[05:51] <cool_boy> Thanks  a lot mates
[05:51] <varun_> cool_boy, does "apt-get install --print-uris synaptic" return the download links?
[05:52] <varun_> npope, we are here to waste time ;P
[05:52] <varun_> unless you are tired ;P
[05:52] <cool_boy> varun_:  :D
[05:52] <cool_boy> this did something
[05:53] <cool_boy> asked me to continue for download 12.7 mb
[05:53] <varun_> returned any links at the bottom of output?
[05:53] <cool_boy> I pressed Y for install and nothing happened
[05:53] <cool_boy> did not install
[05:53] <cool_boy> yes
[05:53] <cool_boy> got links
[05:53] <cool_boy> 'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sgml-data/sgml-data_2.0.6_all.deb' sgml-data_2.0.6_all.deb 270558 MD5Sum:452b71965d453a7c9e3ee94074f21d9e
[05:53] <cool_boy> 'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/docbook-xml/docbook-xml_4.5-7ubuntu1_all.deb' docbook-xml_4.5-7ubuntu1_all.deb 335660 MD5Sum:9197c0c0aa46094ba6e73ac4350af8ec
[05:53] <cool_boy> 'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libe/libept/libept1.4.12_1.0.6~exp1ubuntu1_i386.deb' libept1.4.12_1.0.6~exp1ubuntu1_i386.deb 128994 MD5Sum:d52c389f8ad572589aca67f072c9d6cd
[05:53] <cool_boy> 'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rarian/librarian0_0.8.1-5_i386.deb' librarian0_0.8.1-5_i386.deb 59208 MD5Sum:5479834d804931af9c825c7cd705d98d
[05:53] <cool_boy> 'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rarian/rarian-compat_0.8.1-5_i386.deb' rarian-compat_0.8.1-5_i386.deb 103846 MD5Sum:2568ea639f4de1d4436e35f741d08342
[05:53] <cool_boy> 'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/synaptic/synaptic_0.75.9ubuntu1_i386.deb' synaptic_0.75.9ubuntu1_i386.deb 2404832 MD5Sum:1fc22bb2696aa397ed24af57b635ac41
[05:53] <FloodBot1> cool_boy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <varun_> It is not meant to install, just gives you the links which you can use to manually download the packages. cool_boy
[05:54] <Nmbr1> try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -d upgrade"
[05:54] <cool_boy> varun_: ok
[05:54] <Nmbr1> that will do an update and then download but not install
[05:54] <varun_> cool_boy, you can just copy-paste these links in the browser to manually download the packages, Then copy all these packages in a new empty directory.
[05:55] <cool_boy> varun_: same problem
[05:55] <cool_boy> local address
[05:55] <varun_> cool_boy, even in downloading?? :-o
[05:55] <cool_boy> no
[05:57] <cool_boy> downloaded all
[05:57] <cool_boy> then?
[05:57] <varun_> cool_boy, move them all in a new empty directory on your desktop. Lets name this directory abc.
[05:57] <cool_boy> ok
[05:57] <cool_boy> then?
[05:58] <varun_> cool_boy, then in a terminal, do - "cd ~/Desktop/abc && sudo dpkg -i *" to install the packages.
[05:59] <varun_> cool_boy, hope there are no errors?
[05:59] <cool_boy> Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[06:00] <cool_boy> varun_: there are
[06:00] <varun_> errors??
[06:00] <cool_boy> dpkg: error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
[06:00] <cool_boy> i think this abc should be archive file
[06:00] <cool_boy> is it?
[06:01] <varun_> cool_boy, the abc was the folder name.
[06:01] <cool_boy> yes it is but getting error
[06:01] <varun_> are you in the directory where the downloaded files are?
[06:01] <varun_> in terminal
[06:01] <cool_boy> no
[06:01] <varun_> then "cd" to it first
[06:01] <cool_boy> i guess this is job of cd, is not it
[06:01] <varun_> yeah.
[06:02] <cool_boy> varun_: ok
[06:02] <varun_> that's why the full command was "cd ~/Desktop/abc && sudo dpkg -i *" (assuming the folder is named "abc" and is on the desktop)
[06:02] <cool_boy> varun_: yes i m in 'abc' directory
[06:03] <varun_> ok, now "sudo dpkg -i *"
[06:03] <cool_boy> all is fine except eror
[06:03] <cool_boy> same errors
[06:03] <varun_> are you using "*" in the last?
[06:03] <varun_> does "ls" return the package names?
[06:04] <cool_boy> yes ls returns packages names
[06:04] <cool_boy> not using *
[06:04] <varun_> cool_boy, try "sudo dpkg -i ./*" (./ this time)
[06:04] <varun_> :|
[06:04] <varun_> you need it ;)
[06:04] <varun_> the asterisk *
[06:05] <cool_boy> varun_: now is working
[06:05] <cool_boy> it is what saying on terminal :P
[06:05] <varun_> sounds good so far :)
[06:06] <jnhghy> Hi, I need to run an .exe app on ubuntu. tried with wine... if I try to run it from the terminal...nothing happens if I right click and run with wine... it works but I have to pass it a parameter for it to do anything....how can I do that?
[06:06] <BuzUVT> hi there, i want to declare a permanent variable, tryed with export, declare, set it in /etc/enviroment but still doesent work...any tips ?
[06:07] <Ben64> jnhghy: might want to try asking in #winehq
[06:07] <varun_> cool_boy, when finished, you can open "Synaptic" from dash. Make sure USC is closed when you open synaptic.
[06:07] <jnhghy> Ben64: did that before asking here
[06:07] <Ben64> jnhghy: well they're the wine support channel
[06:07] <cool_boy> varun_: inslled
[06:07] <cool_boy> what is USC?
[06:07] <Random833> jnhghy: what happens if you run wine from the terminal?
[06:08] <HypothesisFrog> hi
[06:08] <varun_> Ubuntu Software Center, cool_boy
[06:08] <Random833> (note: i can't help you any further than suggesting that, i'm on my way to bed)
[06:08] <BuzUVT> i want to declare a permanent variable, tryed with export, declare, set it in /etc/enviroment but still doesent work...any tips ?
[06:08] <jnhghy> Random833: what do you mean? if I type wine and enter in terminal ... I get the "Usage" info
[06:08] <Random833> no
[06:09] <Random833> i mean "wine", followed by the path to the exe, followed by the parameter you need to pass it
[06:09] <Random833> e.g. wine notepad.exe file.txt
[06:09] <cool_boy> varun_: ok
[06:09] <jnhghy> Random833: then it freezes...
[06:09] <Random833> the whole computer?
[06:10] <Random833> what do you mean freezes? nothing was running before, how can it freeze?
[06:10] <varun_> cool_boy, in synaptic, check "Settings > Preferences > Network tab". Is proxy enabled?
[06:10] <jnhghy> Random833: sorry, wine ... I need to end it with ctrl+c ... and receve: fixme:console:CONSOLE_DefaultHandler Terminating process 8 on event 0
[06:11] <Random833> maybe you're just not waiting long enough for it to start
[06:11] <Random833> anyway, beyond that i have no idea
[06:11] <Random833> and i need to go to bed like an hour ago; goodnight
[06:11] <jnhghy> gn
[06:11] <cool_boy> varun_: direct connection to internet
[06:11] <cool_boy> no proxy
[06:11] <cool_boy> i should configure proxy server here?
[06:12] <varun_> cool_boy, no.   Did you enable the assistance tools
[06:13] <histo> seriously_random: compatible how?
[06:13] <cool_boy> varun_: I get '>'
[06:13] <cool_boy> no such file or directory
[06:14] <seriously_random> histo, can I copy windows Steam folder to linux and start using it?
[06:14] <cool_boy> varun_: sorry i wrote wrong
[06:14] <cool_boy> i am getting
[06:14] <cool_boy> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[06:14] <cool_boy> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[06:14] <cool_boy> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[06:14] <cool_boy> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[06:14] <FloodBot1> cool_boy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:15] <varun_> cool_boy, no "/etc/hosts" file?? I smell a conspiracy.... hmm.. make sure your doors are locked in the night, as well as in the day..
[06:15] <BuzUVT> i want to declare a permanent variable, tryed with export, declare, set it in /etc/enviroment but still doesent work...any tips ?
[06:15] <varun_> ok got it.
[06:15] <varun_> cool_boy, I'm now suspecting some external proxy or routing configuration on your system. Nothing seems wrong with software sources.
[06:16] <cool_boy> varun_:  yes I am on proxy enabled network
[06:16] <varun_> cool_boy, who controls the proxy routes?
[06:17] <Nmbr1> can you traceroute the first source and see where it fails? if you are not able to get out of the net to the source address then it is your network administrator that will need to help you get it corrected
[06:18] <varun_> cool_boy, you may try the same proxy settings in synaptic. Although I'm not entirely sure what it does, or even if it is meant to address such issues.
[06:18] <varun_> cool_boy, plus what Nmbr1 said above ^^
[06:20] <varun_> cool_boy, as a quick consolation, if you need to install some specific package, you can use the same "--print-uris" option with apt-get to get the download links, then install it as we did with synaptic.
[06:21] <Nmbr1> cool_boy: you could also take varun_ 's idea of --print-uris and do that for all updates with "> ~/Desktop/links.txt" which will send the uris to a text file and then use wget to download all the packages from the uris in the file.
[06:22] <Nmbr1> conceptually you could create a bash file that will replicate the function of apt-get upgrade
[06:22] <cool_boy> Nmbr1 , varun_ : thanks a lott :)
[06:23] <cool_boy> i learnt alot  today  from you  guys !
[06:23] <varun_> Nmbr1, that would be 'height of workarounds' ;P
[06:23] <histo> seriously_random: I doubt you'd be able to use anything out of the windows folder on linux
[06:23] <varun_> cool_boy, welcome anytime :P
[06:23] <Nmbr1> no worries , good luck!
[06:23] <Nmbr1> varun_: :)
[06:23] <cool_boy> :)
[06:25] <krethan> hi
[06:26] <krethan> does anyone know what is wrong with this shell script line:
[06:27] <krethan> sh $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh
[06:27] <krethan> it drops $CATALINA_HOME value and uses just /bin/startup.sh
[06:27] <somsip> krethan: what does echo $CATALINA_HOME output?
[06:28] <krethan> "/usr/local/tomcat"
[06:28] <krethan> I have it set above
[06:28] <krethan> and then an echo to check that
[06:28] <somsip> krethan: does sh inherit the environment for BASH when it is run? Just a thought...
[06:29] <krethan> I'm not sure newbie :P
[06:29] <somsip> krethan: try running without sh
[06:30] <krethan> k will brb
[06:30] <Kartagis> why would launchers turn into question mark icons?
[06:31] <Nmbr1> krethan: your /bin directory should already be included in $PATH so if you chmod +x /bin/startup.sh you should be able to run startup.sh just by typing "startup.sh" in terminal
[06:31] <krethan> trying to create a startup script...
[06:32] <krethan> somsip: acting the same way
[06:32] <Nmbr1> krethan: if you want to be able to run startup.sh without ".sh" add alias startup ="startup.sh" to your aliases or .bashrc file
[06:34] <krethan> what does the new line character do to variables in shell scripting?
[06:41] <varunendra> Kartagis, did you see this : http://askubuntu.com/a/76344 ?
[06:43] <Kartagis> varunendra: no I hadn't seen it, let me look
[06:44] <Kartagis> varunendra: does this also apply to cairo-dock?
[06:46] <varunendra> Kartagis, I'm not sure about that, but doesn't cairo dock have its own set of icons? With *some* apps, that problem used to exist before that .desktop file mechanism was introduced in Ubuntu. So it maybe its own issue.
[06:46] <krethan> I got it
[06:47] <krethan> I am using /bin/su instead of sh and it is working now
[06:47] <pesh> am new to ubuntu n am loving the experience...wanna be a hardcore linux user....thanx..
[06:52] <nimesh> Hi Does anyone know how to stop the black screen when you boot into ubuntu
[06:52] <Warlock> Stop the black screen?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> !details | nimesh
[06:55] <nimesh> When it happened I was using 12.04 LTS now I have reverted to 11.10 because it does't happen
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> !11.10 | nimesh
[06:56] <al_> hello
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> 11.10 is not supported
[06:56] <nimesh> I know but the problem was in 12.04
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> nimesh, Right and you have yet to provide anything that would be helpful, for example what you tried, your graphic setup would be a couple.
[06:58] <Warlock> Error messages, if any...
[06:58] <nimesh> i will look up my graphics
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> lspci will tell you
[06:59] <goddard> wilee-nilee: what is lspci short for?
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> no idea
[06:59] <goddard> list system pci
[06:59] <goddard> ?
[07:00] <al_> some news about new xubuntu release?
[07:00] <goddard> that will help me remember it
[07:00] <nimesh> it's a sis pcie vga disply aadpter 662/761Gx
[07:00] <goddard> nvidia?
[07:01] <nimesh> no sis silicon Integrated Systems
[07:01] <nimesh>  a laptop
[07:01] <varunendra> nimesh, give us the pastebin link of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga"
[07:01] <goddard> time for bed
[07:01] <goddard> later
[07:02] <nimesh> the thing is that it is just a blank screen
[07:02] <nimesh> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter [1039:6330]
[07:02] <nimesh> 	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0082]
[07:02] <nimesh> 	Kernel modules: sisfb
[07:03] <Warlock> ... pastebin
[07:03] <nimesh> look i am a complete noob what is paste bin
[07:03] <nimesh> plz
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[07:04] <nimesh> ok wait a sec
[07:05] <nimesh> how do i do a screen shot
[07:06] <mm12> hey all
[07:06] <HumanSlime> hi
[07:06] <mm12> how come i cant get the desktop to ship like a cylinder
[07:07] <varunendra> nimesh, please give us the details of the problem you are having. It may be a graphics issue, although that device as well as the driver seems quite generic type.
[07:07] <nimesh> !pastebinit
[07:07] <mm12> tried compiz
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> nimesh, I only see a few hits at the ubuntu forums, really without 12.04 installed there is not much that can be done.
[07:10] <anasp> how i can install ubuntu phone to alcatel onetouch idol ultra
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> anasp, #ubuntu-touch
[07:11] <anasp> ok
[07:11] <nimesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5879942/
[07:12] <nimesh> bye i have to go
[07:13] <ezra-s> apt-cache show php5-fpm Description part: "Note that MOST Apache users probably want the libapache2-mod-php5 package."   <---- SINNERSSS!!
[07:16] <KriShaNsin> if i get a brand new Lenovo thinkpad with windows 7 pro on it. should i even boot into windows the first time. or should i just put the Live USB with raring main desktop in and go into bios menu and boot from usb never even booting into windws ever?
[07:16] <mm12> wow ubuntu really neat better then windows 8
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Krishanan: I would to resize the NTFS partition
[07:17] <babinlonston> Hi all there any one for helping me , regarding Taking backup my whole server using tar.gz and restore it ...
[07:17] <KriShaNsin> so i need to resize the NTFS partition first?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Mm12: depends on needs for which is better really
[07:18] <mm12> is epiphany a good web browser
[07:18] <KriShaNsin> ActionParsnip: but i want a full clean install of Ubuntu
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Krishanan : Win7 can resize its own partitions so I'd use the Microsoft tool to resize a Microsoft file system
[07:19] <KriShaNsin> ActionParsnip: I dont want to keep windows on the machine
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Krishanan : do you want to use Win7 at all?
[07:19] <KriShaNsin> no
[07:19] <KriShaNsin> hell no
[07:19] <KriShaNsin> so i can just do the full clean install straight away then right?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Krishanan: aaahh then just boot install media and wipe the NTFS off :)
[07:20] <KriShaNsin> yeah cool
[07:20] <ezra-s> KriShaNsin, then go ahead and install
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Krishanan : yes absolutely
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Mm12: good is a comparison of needs vs what is needed
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Mm12: something isn't simply "good" or "bad"
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Mm12: think about it
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Mm12: I hate firefox web browser but someone else thinks its great. Is firefox a "good" browser?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Mm12: its nonessential
[07:23] <KriShaNsin> what web browser do you prefer action?
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Mm12: install Epiphany and use it as you would any other.  If you like it, use it
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Krishanan : chrome here
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Although arora is featuring more
[07:26] <babinlonston> Hi all there any one for helping me , regarding Taking backup my whole server using tar.gz and restore it ...
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[07:27] <iceroot> !backup | babinlonston
[07:27] <iceroot> babinlonston: dont just use tar.gz on a running system, it may result in a corrup backup
[07:27] <babinlonston> ok
[07:47] <user123> why is direct download 13.04 iso image and torrent file is showing difference in size ? desktop iso is 785mb while torrent is 823mb something....same for 12.04.2 iso and torrent files
[07:48] <zipy> with spyware build in :P
[07:48] <zipy> dunno, never used torrents but arent all torrents bigger?
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> user123, May be the measurement of your torrent client some call 1000mib a gig some say 1012
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> check the md5sums
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> or eh 1024
[07:50] <Deepfriedice> wilee-nilee, You are forgiven.
[07:50] <Kartagis> !pin
[07:51] <user123> hmm...but it doesn't matters with the final files on hdd coz the files will be same whether we download them directly or from some torrent or warez etc...so what i'm thinking is to download both the torrent files and iso image and compare their sizes
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> user123, If your using official sources, your are wasting your time.
[07:52] <Deepfriedice> user123, I would use SHA512 rather than filesize, but sure.
[07:52] <Kartagis> what was 12.04 named?
[07:52] <varunendra> user123, using nautilus, the default file browser?
[07:53] <Kartagis> !12.04
[07:53] <user123> i remember that i had this question in previous releases also....and that time i was suggested herre that maybe any one of the file must be broken and i did md5 and sha and it was same
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> !12.04 | Kartagis use the web man
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> !1204
[07:53] <varunendra> user123, nautilus has some bug or something due to which it shows the size larger than actual. It is normal for me now.
[07:54] <chunkyhead> varunendra: which os are you using?
[07:54] <user123> varunendra: ohh, i didn't knew about that bug
[07:54] <Kartagis> I was trying to write a /etc/apt/preferences file
[07:54] <Deepfriedice> varunendra, is it a bug, or just the 2^(10*x) vs 10^(x) thing?
[07:54] <varunendra> 12.04 LTS, 64 bit, kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:55] <chunkyhead> varunendra: icon sizes can be changed, i guess ctrl+scroll up/down
[07:55] <varunendra> Deepfriedice, I suspected that, perhaps it is part of the explanation, but never cared enough to verify.
[07:55] <saban> how to add domain mydomain.com search mydomain.com to resolv.conf in 12.04???
[07:55] <user123> varunendra: your name suggests you are somewhere in saarc ?
[07:55] <varunendra> chunkyhead, I'm talking about sizes in bytes :D
[07:55] <chunkyhead> varunendra: oh lol my bad. i thought sizes of icons
[07:56] <varunendra> user123, how so?  I'm in India, yeah, hindi speaking North Indian :)
[07:57] <llutz> saban: add those lines to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[07:57] <llutz> saban: run "sudo resolvconf -u" after that
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> llutz: ahh, didn't know that one
[07:58] <llutz> ActionParsnip: man resolvconf :)
[07:58] <user123> varunendra: lol, well i doubt if anybody associated with saarc comes here
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> llutz: word
[07:58] <chunkyhead> does anyone know where does ubuntu store it's cursor theme? i managed to change the theme using unity-tweak-tool and then eversince when my cursor is on the desktop it's displaying default theme and when i hover it on top of an appliaction it displays the current theme. any help with that?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: tried logging off and on?
[07:59] <varunendra> user123, you never know ;)
[07:59] <saban> idk why you had to change from simple to confusing in 12.04 :/
[07:59] <saban> tnx
[08:00] <jtreminio> chunkyhead: you actually have to run some command line stuff
[08:00] <user123> varunendra: if the person will not be of sound mind then I suppose I'll be wrong :)
[08:01] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip: yes i tried, tried restarting, im stuck on this problem from tha past 1 month
[08:01] <chunkyhead> jtreminio: i dont wanna run unity --reset command
[08:01] <varunendra> user123, which source did you get the torrent by the way? You should verify its MD5sum if you have even the slightest doubt.
[08:01] <chunkyhead> that will end up reseting alot of add on i've installed jtreminio
[08:01] <user123> varunendra: fron ubutnu.com...i hope its trustworthy
[08:01] <jtreminio> chunkyhead: http://askubuntu.com/questions/295101/ubuntu-tweak-tool-mouse-cursor-would-not-change-theme
[08:01] <Kartagis> hrm, I've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package?
[08:02] <user123> lol ubuntu.com varunendra
[08:02] <varunendra> user123, if it was an official source, there is no chance of error. Torrents ensure data integrity. Just let it finish to 100%
[08:02] <chunkyhead> jtreminio: this should work, let me get back to  you once i am online thru my homePC thanks for the help :D
[08:02] <gartral> hey all, i have a conundrum, my mom's netbook is in desperate need of an update past 11.04, but I can't install k3b or any other software to backup her data because her OS is so old, she doesn't have another method of backing up data, so what can I do?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> user123: did you MD5 test the iso you downloaded?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> gartral: upgrade to 11.10, then to 12.04
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> gartral: its going to take a while
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> gartral: why is their no backup? Is her data not important to her?
[08:03] <user123> no..i have downloaded from torrent
[08:03] <Deepfriedice> gartral, tar -cf ?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> user123: what mdia are you installing with? CD? USB?
[08:04] <gartral> ActionParsnip: she has 250 MB free on her hdd
[08:04] <nimesh> which distro is the best for ati redeon 9800 ?
[08:05] <Kartagis> hrm, I've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package rather than the default?
[08:05] <user123> i have not written it in any media....its currently on my desktop
[08:05] <Kartagis> !info cifs-utils precise
[08:05] <user123> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ md5sum Desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso  8d72e2db7e72e13813731eab37a14d26  Desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso varunendra
[08:06] <varunendra> nimesh, all distros are going to more or less the same kernel hence the same drivers. So doesn't matter really.
[08:06] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I really want to give her k3b through a PPA or some other backporting method so she can clear up her hdd
[08:06] <nimesh> ok
[08:06] <sandGorgon> hi guys - I have a WD hard disk which is showing logical sector size as 512B vs physical sector size as 4096B. Can someone tell me how to set them both to 4096B ?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> gartral: you may find a PPA, do you not have a dropbox account? Or space on your own PC she can dump her stuff to?
[08:06] <nimesh> is there a way to download the ati driver
[08:07] <jtreminio> How would I run two command-line tests? test ! -d foo && -d bar
[08:07] <gartral> ActionParsnip: my PC is 20 miles away
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> !ati | nimesh
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> gartral: could still run an SSH server and have her connect via SSHFS, secure copy all the way :)
[08:07] <Deepfriedice> gartral, what do you need k3b for? (and what is it?)
[08:07] <nimesh> i will see
[08:07] <Kartagis> Deepfriedice: it's a cd burning utility
[08:07] <gartral> Deepfriedice: she needs too backup about 10 GB of data
[08:08] <Deepfriedice> ActionParsnip, I don't think I would use SSHFS like that...
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> nimesh: unless its a 2xxx 3xxx or 4xxx ATi, then you want this: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Deepfriedice: why not?
[08:08] <Kartagis> Deepfriedice: brasero is buggy
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Deepfriedice: its a secure copy over WAN...
[08:08] <qin_> jtreminio: /j  #bash
[08:08] <gartral> ActionParsnip: time, it's a netbook, and not very powerful, it transfers over ssh at about 500kb/s
[08:08] <varunendra> user123, that md5sum is perfect. The image is fine.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> gartral: could buy a 16Gb USB flash drive for the price of a pack of smokes..
[08:09] <Deepfriedice> Kartagis: I think I would upgrade the OS before trying to install programs for her.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> gartral: you then have a backup and can make periodic copies as you have an extra 6Gb to expand to
[08:09] <gartral> ActionParsnip: in america? yea right, I spend $4 US on a pack of smokes
[08:10] <Kartagis> Deepfriedice: I took the liberty to answer for gartral
[08:10] <gartral> brb, she needs human mantinance
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> gartral: either way, its stupidly cheap
[08:10] <nimesh> ok thanz for that info
[08:10] <Kartagis> I've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package rather than the default?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> nimesh: sudo lshw -C display    will tell you the GPU
[08:11] <tozen> hi all! how can i disable to remove directory in ubuntu 12.04? as example ~/Downloads/New. thx
[08:11] <nimesh> i'm not in ubuntu at the moment
[08:12] <Pistola> Hi, I'm having display issues with my Ubuntu 13.04 OS.  The brightness is low and I have tried for the last few months to fix it to no avail.
[08:12] <user123> varunendra: hmm...how to check md5 ? i am doing md5sum ---image--- its giving msd5 but when i am doing md5sum -c MD5SUM its giving error
[08:13] <Deepfriedice> tozen, What do you mean by "disable to remove directory"?
[08:13] <qin_> tozen: man chattr; man chattr
[08:13] <varunendra> user123, just match the md5sum with the official list. I matched yours with mine - was a match.
[08:14] <qin_> tozen: lsattr and  chattr commands
[08:14] <user123> varunendra: ok...anyways....I have some issues with wifi router configuration...help ?
[08:15] <tozen> Deepfriedice: well i've got files in directory and i want them to be kept om my machine with possibolity to delete only with some passkey or password
[08:15] <varunendra> user123, perhaps. You in the problematic Ubuntu right now?
[08:16] <jwu> there is so many thing happened in this week, a number of chinese linux distro just released.
[08:16] <wooy> hey, does ubuntu have read/write capability for NTFS?
[08:16] <DJones> wooy: Yes it does
[08:16] <jwu> yes it does
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> user123: your MD5sum is correct
[08:16] <DJones> !ntfs | wooy
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> wooy: yes
[08:16] <Deepfriedice> tozen, Your password, or the root password?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> wooy: but Windows cannot write or read Ext4. Funny isn't it
[08:16] <user123> varunendra: no...ubuntu and router are perfectly fine....infact its the same router i want to configure through which i am chating with you right now
[08:16] <varunendra> user123, is it the router's configuration or the system's local wifi problem?
[08:17] <wooy> thats great, thank you guys
[08:17] <user123> ActionParsnip: ok thnx :)
[08:17] <wooy> ActionParsnip: yeah i was missing this feature numerous times
[08:17] <rcmaehl> Can someone help me with http://i.imgur.com/4LD4uDQ.png
[08:17] <gartral> ActionParsnip: another issue, WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[08:18] <tozen> Deepfriedice: my password
[08:18] <gartral> her system hasn't been upgraded in forever
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> wooy: funny because the Ext4 specification is available to anyone, but theNTFS spec is only known fuly by Microsoft
[08:18] <Deepfriedice> rcmaehl, Well THAT doesn't look good.
[08:18] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I really need a way of making her system upgrade
[08:18] <rcmaehl> Deepfriedice, You don't say :P
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> gartral: yes because the repos for Natty are disabled
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !eol | gartral
[08:19] <gartral> ActionParsnip: then how am I supposed to upgrade if I can't back up her data?
[08:19] <user123> varunendra: i can configure router in pppoe and bridge mode but not in pppoa and 1483 bridge mode (mer)....i wanna configure it in those 2 modes
[08:19] <Deepfriedice> tozen, That actually sounds fairly hard, generally you have full access to all your shit when you log in.
[08:19] <varunendra> user123, you should try #networking then
[08:20] <gartral> ActionParsnip: thank you for repeating the obvious, what's the fix that allows her too keep 2.5 years of work?
[08:20] <Deepfriedice> Best I could suggest is to give ownership to root then only give root write rights.
[08:20] <user123> varunendra: its invitation only and i tried ##networking yesterday no use
[08:20] <Nmbr1> Deepfriedice: tozen could chown the files or the directory and subfiles/folders to root or a different group
[08:20] <tozen> Deepfriedice: so here is no any solution? o_O
[08:20] <Nmbr1> Deepfriedice: good call ;)
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> gartral: all I can suggest is a backup (which she should have) then reinstall, you can upgrade using the Oneiric alternate ISO too
[08:21] <gartral> ActionParsnip: HOW the HECK am I supposed to backup her data if she doesn't have burner software?!?!?!?!?!?!
[08:21] <Deepfriedice> Nmbr1, Yeah, but then you would need root privileges to delete the directory. I guess that's still just your password if your the administrator.
[08:22] <gartral> ActionParsnip: you know what. Screw it, I'll compress he3r /home and run an upgrade.
[08:22] <Deepfriedice> gartral, just package it as an ISO file then directly write it to the disk.
[08:22] <Nmbr1> Deepfriedice: yep unless you created a special account for that function and changed the ownership to that account rather than root
[08:23] <Deepfriedice> Nmbr1, Still not tozen's privileges though.
[08:23] <varunendra> user123, I don't even know what 1483 mode is. Besides, we'd surely be kicked out if we discussed that in here ;P
[08:23] <surjikal> lol wat:
[08:23] <surjikal> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[08:23] <surjikal> this is a valid url
[08:24] <Deepfriedice> Well that's new.
[08:24] <g105b> Can someone point me in the right direction for booting a computer via LAN to install 13.04 ?
[08:24] <Kartagis> sorry for the repetition, but I've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package rather than the default? cifs-utils in raring is buggy
[08:25] <Nmbr1> Deepfriedice: why would that be an issue? create a group (rmrights) tozen and the special account (we can call it "rmaccount") are members of. the files will be chown rmaccount:rmgights. rmrights has read access but rmaccount has read/write
[08:25] <Deepfriedice> Kartagis, I'm not sure I understand you. Surely if you pinned a package then that's the version you have?
[08:25] <ikonia> g105b: do a quick search for pxeboot
[08:25] <ikonia> Kartagis: are you trying to mix packages between distros ?
[08:25] <g105b> ikonia: thanks, just needed to know what to search for. May have questions later :)
[08:25] <ikonia> g105b: welcome to ask, but that should get you started
[08:25] <Kartagis> ikonia: that's called pinning, no?
[08:26] <ikonia> Kartagis: no
[08:26] <ikonia> Kartagis: pinning should be used for versions within the same distro
[08:26] <ikonia> Kartagis: mixing package versions from version A and B is not a good move
[08:26] <jlebrech> any nice gui sql clients for gnome/kde?
[08:26] <ikonia> jlebrech: what SQL software are you trying to connect to ?
[08:27] <Kartagis> ikonia: then what to do if cifs-utils in raring is buggy?
[08:27] <user123> varunendra: no one is gonna be kicked out lol.....but surely words about the main topic for this channel....anyways lastly, do u know if indian isp's support 1483 and pppoa for individual customers ? and 1483 is dynamic/static ip configuration
[08:27] <ikonia> Kartagis: define "buggy"
[08:27] <jlebrech> ikonia, percona (mysql)
[08:27] <Deepfriedice> !raring
[08:27] <ikonia> jlebrech: mysql workbench is a strong gui package
[08:27] <jlebrech> ikonia, does it have a ppa?
[08:27] <ikonia> jlebrech: doesn't need a PPA, it's in the core repos
[08:27] <joonty> hey all, what's the best way to diagnose an apt-get update hanging?
[08:28] <ikonia> joonty: where is it hanging ?
[08:28] <Deepfriedice> joonty, reading the log files, probably.
[08:28] <Kartagis> ikonia: I get Permission denied when I try to write to a smb share. I found a bug for that
[08:28] <ikonia> Kartagis: where is the bug?
[08:28] <varunendra> user123, no idea about that. All I know that most ISPs charge extra for static IP. BSNL/MTNL included (although they don't often change IPs even on the normal connections)
[08:28] <Kartagis> ikonia: one sec
[08:29] <joonty> ikonia: it seems to be taking forever connecting to security.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <ikonia> joonty: ok, so test that connection
[08:29] <user123> varunendra: ok thnx for ur time :)
[08:29] <varunendra> np :)
[08:29] <Kartagis> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/+bug/1113395
[08:29] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok, thats undecided, and that's failed to mount not "permission denied writing to a share"
[08:30] <ikonia> Kartagis: what is your EXACT problem
[08:31] <Kartagis> ikonia: I connect a smb share through fstab, and I get permission denied when writing to it
[08:31] <ikonia> Kartagis: right, so tht is NOT that bug
[08:31] <ikonia> Kartagis: that bug is "failed to mount"
[08:31] <joonty> ikonia: it happens with multiple IP addresses for the same security.ubuntu.com host, hence i interpreted it (quite possibly incorrectly) to not be a connection issue
[08:31] <gartral> Deepfriedice: oerhaps you don't understand, she doesn't HAVE an iso burner..
[08:31] <ikonia> Kartagis: your attention to detail is shocking again
[08:31] <Deepfriedice> Kartagis, Did you use the "user" option?
[08:32] <ikonia> Deepfriedice: when you mount the share can you show me the permissions on the file system please.
[08:32] <Deepfriedice> gartral, Do you mean a DVD burner, or the software to make ISO images?
[08:32] <ikonia> Deepfriedice: oops sorry, not you
[08:32] <Kartagis> Deepfriedice: let me show you the line: //mysu-dev/drupal7-dev             /mnt/mysu-dev        cifs        credentials=/root/.mtozses,uid=50028,gid=506    0    0
[08:32] <ikonia> Kartagis: when you mount the share can you show me the permissions on the file system please.
[08:33] <Kartagis> ikonia: one sec
[08:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: credenticals /root !!!!!
[08:33] <jmarcus> hi all
[08:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: there should be nothing in /root on ubuntu
[08:33] <gartral> Deepfriedice: the software to write a dvd iso to a dvd
[08:33] <Kartagis> ikonia: same thing in my $HOME
[08:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: so ?
[08:33] <gartral> Deepfriedice: I found a workaround
[08:33] <Kartagis> drwxrwsr-x
[08:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: no, show me the permissions,
[08:34] <gartral> Deepfriedice: compress /home and run the upgrade as root
[08:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: just run "ls -la /mnt/mysy-dev" and pastebin it please
[08:34] <gartral> Deepfriedice: that gave her 4 gb too work with
[08:34] <Kartagis> ikonia: of the files?
[08:34] <Deepfriedice> gartral, I'm pretty sure that most archive tools can make ISO files.
[08:34] <Kartagis> one sec
[08:35] <jmarcus> Does anyone knows about installation on cisco UCS with LUN ?
[08:35] <llutz> Kartagis: ls -ld  /mnt/mysy-dev
[08:35] <Deepfriedice> gartral, What did you do with the compressed archive?
[08:35] <gartral> Deepfriedice: left it
[08:36] <Kartagis> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5880106/
[08:36] <Deepfriedice> gartral, On the HDD you ran the upgrade on!?
[08:36] <garbageman_> hi, need some help with ntp, on ubuntu 10.10  configured a master server and clients, when i ntpq - np i can see there's an offset but it keeps growing instead of getting smaller as docs say, anyone has expirience with this?
[08:36] <ikonia> Kartagis: looks at the UID/GID on that
[08:36] <ikonia> Kartagis: that UID/GID does not have a user mapped on your system !!!!
[08:37] <Kartagis> ikonia: those are my values on the remote system
[08:37] <ikonia> Kartagis: so ??
[08:37] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's your LOCAL system
[08:37] <gartral> Deepfriedice: yea, her / and /home are on the same partitiion
[08:38] <Kartagis> ikonia: there are 3 smb shares, and 1 of them is different, so editing my uid/gid is not an option
[08:38] <Deepfriedice> gartral, that doesn't sound particularly safe to me.
[08:38] <ikonia> Kartagis: then that is your problem
[08:38] <ikonia> Kartagis: not a bug - that's your bad planning
[08:38] <gartral> Deepfriedice: well.. it'll work, hopfully
[08:39] <Kartagis> ikonia: the very same line used to work on 12.04
[08:39] <ikonia> Kartagis: again...so
[08:39] <Deepfriedice> gartral, is it already running?
[08:39] <gartral> Deepfriedice: yep..
[08:39] <gartral> Deepfriedice: well.. downloading
[08:40] <Deepfriedice> gartral, Well, I hope that the upgrade works fine then.
[08:40] <joonty> ikonia: found it, the ipv6 addresses don't seem to accept connections, ipv4 work fine
[08:40] <gartral> Deepfriedice: well.. I've had good luck in the past...
[08:40] <ikonia> joonty: superb, great find
[08:40] <gartral> Deepfriedice: also, her internet SUCKS
[08:40] <Deepfriedice> gartral, I probably sound a bit paranoid then: I've never had one work.
[08:41] <gartral> Deepfriedice: it's floating between 150kb/s and 300kb/s
[08:42] <joonty> ikonia: thanks for your help
[08:42] <varunendra> gartral, mine floats between 3KB/s to 6KB/s here .... ;P
[08:42] <ikonia> joonty: you sorted yourself out, kudos to you
[08:42] <_joey> looking for a free tabbed pdf viewer able to highlight and save highlighted text
[08:42] <varunendra> GPRS, with 'crippled' speed..
[08:42] <_joey> 'tabbed' as in tabs
[08:44] <Pistola> Can anyone help me with my display issue?
[08:45] <histo> Pistola: is this on a laptop?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> garbageman_: Maverick is EOL and no longer supported
[08:47] <Kartagis> *sigh*
[08:48] <Kartagis> ikonia: is there no other way than editing my uid/gid? and how can I do that for all 3 shares
[08:48] <Kartagis> ?
[08:49] <Pistola> histo: no it's on a desktop
[08:50] <studio> Hey guys i've got a problem. Rakkarack doesn't gives a distortion sound. What's wrong with it?
[08:51] <Deepfriedice> Pistola, What Video card do you have?
[08:52] <Pistola> not sure
[08:52] <histo> Pistola: adjust your monitor then
[08:52] <studio> Come on I need help. It's stops my epic heavy metal recording album.
[08:52] <studio> album recording*
[08:52] <Pistola> when I adjust my monitor it leave it to red and after a while hurts my eyes. The dim display is killing me eye sight. I have searched on the forums with little success
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Pistola: what video chip?
[08:54] <histo> Pistola: Is this an LCD screen?
[08:54] <Deepfriedice> Pistola, If it's a desktop, I don't see how the OS gets any say over the backlight.
[08:54] <histo> studio: what?
[08:55] <studio> u know, rakkarack - guitar processor.
[08:55] <histo> studio: I'd see if rakkarack has support or forums somewhere
[08:55] <studio> Distortion doesn't works. Forums aren't active, sad but true
[08:56] <Pistola> histo: yes it is an LCD screen
[08:56] <Deepfriedice> studio, When was the last version of this program released, and do you have any other audio issues?
[08:56] <histo> Pistola: Why do you think ubuntu is causing your monitor backlight to not be as bright?
[08:56] <Pistola> ActionParsnip: I don't know, how do I find out?
[08:57] <Deepfriedice> Pistola, sudo lshw
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Pistola: sudo lshw -C display
[08:57] <Pistola> i'm not to good with terminal but i'll try
[08:57] <studio> Other effects works good, last version of this sofrware was released in 2010.
[08:57] <histo> ActionParsnip: He's using an external monitor on a desktop machine afaik you can't control brightness via the display driver that way.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Pistola: its copying and pasting text. What's not to 'be good' at exactly?
[08:58] <XATRIX> Hi, i always see a red exclamation mark in a system tray, it tells me http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-16072013-115723.php
[08:58] <XATRIX> How can i fix it ?
[08:58] <Deepfriedice> studio, The problem is probably with the program then.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: can you please pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update
[08:58] <XATRIX> I have all the standard repositories that can be reached
[08:58] <Pistola> ActionParsnip: understanding it
[08:58] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: sure, but there's no problem with apt-get update
[08:58] <Deepfriedice> Sorry guys, I've got to go.
[08:58] <XATRIX> It does updates smooth
[08:59] <studio> But before distribution upgrade it's works nice.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Pistola: we just need the product line
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: no warnings or errors?
[08:59] <Pistola> product: G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Pistola: did you install the nvidia-current package?
[09:00] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: http://ur1.ca/enxka
[09:00] <Pistola> ActionParsnip: not that I'm aware of
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Pistola: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:00] <dakotawulfy> Pistola use jockey gtk
[09:01] <Pistola> dakotawulfy: What is that?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[09:01] <theadmin> Pistola: It's an old way of installing drivers in Ubuntu, was used up to 12.10. The functionality is built into software-properties-gtk since 13.04
[09:02] <dakotawulfy> Pistola a driver utility   it will let u select what driver to use for your video card
[09:02] <Pistola> is it a program I install?
[09:03] <theadmin> Pistola: If you're using 12.10 or below, it comes preinstalled, search the main menu for "Additional Drivers". If you're on 13.04, you can go to System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers.
[09:03] <surjikal> bahh, us.archive.ubuntu.com is ultra slow on linode right now
[09:03] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-16072013-120332.php
[09:03] <dakotawulfy> Pistola open a terminal window and type jockey-gtk   see if it works
[09:03] <Pistola> I'm on 13.04, i'll do that now. However, the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current is currently installing
[09:03] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: so, i have to run that app ?
[09:04] <theadmin> Pistola: Eh, that does the exact same thing lol
[09:04] <theadmin> Pistola: Just automatically finds drivers for you, but if you already found them no point in using that app
[09:04] <harshadura> hi anybody can pls help me with ubottu setup inmy server
[09:05] <histo> !details | harshadura
[09:05] <dakotawulfy> Pistola well see if u have the nvidia  tool on your system
[09:05] <Pistola> lol, ok I was following ActionParsnip original instructions. Now what? Should I reboot? (p.s thx heaps for the help guys)
[09:05] <harshadura> histo: i have installed supybot and install the encyopedia plugin on it
[09:05] <histo> harshadura: what?
[09:05] <theadmin> Pistola: Yeah, reboot after the driver is installed and it should work magically
[09:05] <harshadura> but seems like it doesnt work as intended
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: close that app and software centre, then run the script I gave
[09:05] <ikonia> Kartagis: you need to plan things properly/better
[09:05] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: On it
[09:05] <histo> harshadura: no idea what supybot is
[09:06] <harshadura> histo: ok
[09:06] <ikonia> Kartagis: or use a central authentication system such as ldap so all the uid/gid's match
[09:06] <histo> harshadura: are you gettw
[09:06] <histo> harshadura: are your getting a specific error?
[09:06] <Pistola> theadmin: i feel sarcasm?
[09:06] <Kartagis> ikonia: my organisation uses ldap
[09:06] <ikonia> Kartagis: yes, but you're not using it
[09:06] <theadmin> Pistola: Oh not at all, Ubuntu is great in that way
[09:07] <Kartagis> ikonia: how do I do that?
[09:07] <theadmin> Pistola: Just saying that on other distros you have to configure stuff yourself often
[09:07] <Pistola> ok
[09:07] <theadmin> Pistola: But not on Ubuntu
[09:07] <ikonia> Kartagis: its not somethig I can write in 1 line - this is all research you should be doing before you implement things
[09:07] <harshadura> histo: is there a way to remove sqlite3 and install sqlite2
[09:07] <harshadura> in ec2 linux server
[09:08] <histo> harshadura: you could remove sqlite3 and install sqlite2 from source although I don't know why you want to... Doesn't make much sense
[09:08] <Kartagis> ikonia: I'm not running the server, I'm just a client
[09:08] <theadmin> harshadura: I'm pretty sure sqlite3 has all the features sqlite2 did, so I doubt that can cause problems
[09:08] <Kartagis> ikonia: the admins use ldap
[09:08] <harshadura> histo: in supybot python script it uses sqlite as the import but i have installed sqlite3 in my server
[09:08] <harshadura> so it gives lots of errors
[09:09] <histo> harshadura: how did you install supybot from the repos?
[09:09] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: http://ur1.ca/enxoo that's the output of
[09:09] <XATRIX> Is it ok ?
[09:09] <harshadura> histo: just using setup.py script
[09:09] <vnc786> hello all !!!
[09:10] <vnc786> can some one help me on this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT  i have tried many solution but that didnt work i also copied all *config files* like status etc from working machine but that to didnt help where as i am able to do installation of packages
[09:10] <histo> harshadura: you should probably install the one from the repos as it's already configured to work using the software versions in the ubuntu repos
[09:10] <ikonia> Kartagis: are you managing/responsible for the host you are trying to mount the share on ?
[09:10] <histo> !info supybot | harshadura
[09:10] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes
[09:10] <ikonia> Kartagis: right, and the other 2 machines you referenced, are you responsible for those ?
[09:11] <harshadura> !source
[09:11] <harshadura> !owner
[09:11] <Kartagis> ikonia: all 3 smb shares are supposed to be mounted on 1 client, my computer
[09:11] <harshadura> ok ;)
[09:11] <wizrd> vnc786: you could try 'sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:12] <ikonia> Kartagis: right, so either a.) make your workstation authenticate against the central AD or b.) make your local UID/GID match the network users UID/GID
[09:12] <Pistola> ok, the NVIDIA controls have appeared and I have increased power over the display settings
[09:12] <vnc786> wizrd: here is the result ---0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[09:12] <Pistola> thank you all for your help
[09:12] <raven> thunderbird: need to move or send rss/atom/... newsy to e-mail adress/account automatically but rules do not help really - any ideas how to do that?
[09:12] <wayleo> plop all
[09:13] <publicjohn> plop too
[09:13] <wizrd> vnc786: after autoremove?
[09:14] <Kartagis> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication maybe?
[09:14] <ikonia> Kartagis: sure
[09:15] <vnc786> wizrd:  1) i am getting wordnet on terminal but  (2) when i did apt-get autoremove wordnet it says it is not installed
[09:15] <studio> Come on, I wouldn't start play blues!
[09:16] <wizrd> vnc786: autoremove is to purge unneeded files that stay behind
[09:16] <steveccc> hi all - can anyone point me in the direction of a good guide - I have a hard disk and wish to rsync it to a spare external disk so that I have a backup and ideally I dont want to recopy the hard disk each time but rather keep them in sync
[09:16] <wizrd> so you should use it like: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[09:17] <wayleo> man rsync ?
[09:17] <Kartagis> ikonia: there is something I think you should know. everything runs smoothly if I connect through Nautilus. I shouldn't be able to do that if my client isn't authenticated, right?
[09:17] <wizrd> looks like your package of google earth is broken
[09:17] <soman> ANy simple http sniffer for ubuntu?
[09:17] <Kartagis> ethereal | soman
[09:17] <niktes> soman: wireshark
[09:17] <wayleo> tcpdump port 80
[09:17] <Kartagis> !ethereal | soman
[09:17] <Kartagis> right
[09:17] <Kartagis> !wireshark | soman
[09:18] <niktes> soman: webspy
[09:19] <anthony> I'm in the UK and about to change my internet service provider - I have received the router from talktalk (the service provider) and whilst there are instillation instructions for windows and Mac o/s there is no mention of GNU/linux - does anyone know if I might get any issues or the whereabouts of any tutorials that might assist me connecting my router? _ I am using 12.04LTS
[09:19] <vnc786> 1] are u saying to type only sudo apt-get autoremove on terminal if so i did that and result is same 2] every time i do some installation it gives me error
[09:19] <Kartagis> ikonia: http://paste.debian.net/16322/ <--- and this is the listing
[09:19] <wizrd> vnc786: can you tell me which steps you allready did?
[09:20] <ezra-s> anthony, most routers get configured through http frontend, so there's no difference in the OS you use to configure it really
[09:20] <vlt> anthony: Usually there’s no difference.
[09:20] <wizrd> vnc786: autoclean / reinstall of google-earth
[09:20] <anthony> does that mean it will plug and play ezra-s ?
[09:21] <Kartagis> anthony: you will most likely not run into issues
[09:21] <ezra-s> anthony, routers are independent of the OS you use, unless you are not talking about a router, but a DSL modem or something like that
[09:22] <soman> why can't I use dumcap? I use 'sudo dumpcap -w sniff' and get error 'The file to which the capture would be saved ("./sniff") could not be opened: Permission denied.'
[09:22] <ezra-s> anthony, think of a router like a different pc, but this pc is really small and has an embedded OS
[09:22] <anthony> or do I use the discit's a D-Link DSL-3680 router ezra_s
[09:23] <vnc786> wizrd:  1] apt-get purge wordnet --which showed me that it will remove 3 wordnet* package 2] but on terminal i m still getting wordnet also my main concerns is that
[09:23] <anthony> it's a D-Link DSL-3680 router ezra_s
[09:23] <ezra-s> anthony, I don't know that one but I'm sure you can access it with something similar to http://<IP_ADDRESS> from your favourite browser if you need/want any configuring
[09:23] <anthony> do I run the instillation disc then anyway
[09:23] <vnc786> how do i remove this error message whereas i can do installation of small packages
[09:23] <ezra-s> anthony, read the manual first
[09:23] <anthony> lol
[09:23] <power_off> soman: try 'tshark'
[09:25] <wizrd> vnc786: in the pastbin I see you try to remove google-earth. Now you're talking about wordnet. Do you get there errors on several packages?
[09:25] <soman> power_off: I get such error with tshark
[09:27] <anthony> Thanks for the assistance - I understand the basics and can translate the windows instructions - cheers
[09:29] <drasko__> Is possible to scan the network for oter APs when card is in AP mode ? Here are my ifconfig and iwconfig outputs : http://pastebin.com/YZ1y58Ej
[09:30] <drasko__> It looks like hostapd is preventing the scan
[09:30] <vnc786> wizrd: here is the long version first i installed google earth 64 bit like this dpkg -i googleearth.deb it showed me error(echo $? = 127) but i was getting google-earth on terminal when i type google-earth so i did apt-get remove google-earth which removed google earth but you
[09:30] <vnc786> can see in pastbin that there are so many  errors which i want to get rid off
[09:32] <thunder1212> hi
[09:32] <thunder1212> i have installed ubuntu12.04. i want to install kde what shoul i do?
[09:32] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! Why no "right click" panels on Gnome Classic (effects less) [Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS]?
[09:33] <AlexandreMBM> thunder1212, kubuntu-desktop?
[09:33] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:33] <cristian_c> I can't hear sound from speakers/headphone anymore
[09:33] <DJones> !kde | thunder1212
[09:33] <thunder1212> AlexandreMBM: kde
[09:34] <cristian_c> I don't know how to restore it
[09:34] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:35] <thunder1212> DJones: will installin kubuntu remove ldm and use kdm instead?
[09:35] <AlexandreMBM> cristian_c, if you did kernel update, try to know changes in modules loads
[09:36] <drasko__> Is possible to scan the network for oter APs when card is in AP mode ? Here are my ifconfig and iwconfig outputs : http://pastebin.com/YZ1y58Ej
[09:36] <drasko__> It looks like hostapd is preventing the scan
[09:36] <DJones> thunder1212: No, if you just install the kde-desktop package, you'll be able to select either option at the login menu
[09:36] <cristian_c> AlexandreMBM, no, before is worked with the same kernel
[09:36] <cristian_c> :)
[09:36] <cristian_c> *it
[09:37] <AlexandreMBM> cristian_c, updates others?
[09:37] <cristian_c> AlexandreMBM, classic system updates
[09:37] <wizrd> vnc786: looks like you installed the package without then needed dependencies. You could try to reinstall it
[09:37] <cristian_c> AlexandreMBM, I've found s/pdif out in pavucontrol
[09:37] <thunder1212> DJones: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE >> there the third option says it will install kde??
[09:37] <wizrd> vnc786: sudo apt-get install --reinstall google-earth
[09:37] <AlexandreMBM> cristian_c, see the mixers
[09:38] <cristian_c> AlexandreMBM, and some strange controls in alsamixer
[09:38] <AlexandreMBM> cristian_c, and if it is a bad contact in plugs
[09:38] <wizrd> vnc786: After that do a apt-get remove google-earth
[09:38] <cristian_c> AlexandreMBM, in live it works
[09:38] <AlexandreMBM> cristian_c, "in live"?
[09:38] <cristian_c> live cd
[09:39] <DJones> thunder1212: Thats what you want isn't it? It doesn't remove the desktop you already have installed, it just adds kde as a 2nd desktop
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> wizrd  i havent followed, problems with search in geoogle earth?
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> vnc786  ^^^^
[09:39] <wizrd> MonkeyDust: nah. problems removing after dpkg install
[09:40] <wizrd> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> wizrd  try sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:41] <thunder1212> DJones: (iii) kde-plasma-desktop --- This will install the core -- the bare-minimum required-- of KDE. That is, kdebase-apps, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-workspace and kdm.
[09:41] <wizrd> MonkeyDust: Has been done
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> wizrd  then maybe in synaptic, remove residual config
[09:41] <cristian_c> Does anyone has any ideas?
[09:41] <wizrd> ps. vnc786 is the one with the trouble
[09:42] <DJones> thunder1212: As it says, that is the minimum for kde, if you want all the kde apps & desktop extras, you have to install one of the other options
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> vnc786   then maybe in synaptic, remove residual config
[09:42] <DJones> thunder1212: I don't use KDE so possibly better just asking the channel in general as to the differences between the options
[09:42] <drasko__> Is possible to scan the network for oter APs when card is in AP mode ? Here are my ifconfig and iwconfig outputs : http://pastebin.com/YZ1y58Ej
[09:43] <vnc786> wizrd: how do i get rid of that all messages OR do i have to remove or reinstall all mention packages in that error
[09:43] <aan> halllo
[09:43] <g105b> Just installed 13.04 without a network connection, now when I apt-get update it takes forever. It's been sat there over an hour now trying to update the sources.
[09:44] <wizrd> vnc786: usually when you install with apt-get it will install all needed dependencies automatically
[09:44] <amatsukamiz> i ppl
[09:44] <amatsukamiz> how can i intall adminer?
[09:44] <Nmbr1> g105b: that will happen, if you aren't getting errors just wait and let it finish. the next time you run it it shouldn't take as long
[09:45] <g105b> ah ok ... but seriously, over an hour?
[09:45] <wizrd> aan: this is an english channel
[09:45] <g105b> amatsukamiz: you don't install it, it's just a single script - that's the point.
[09:46] <Nmbr1> it could. it will depend on what repositories, your bandwidth, how many packages are installed.....
[09:46] <g105b> amatsukamiz: you just download the script and serve it as a normal webpage via your webserver.
[09:46] <g105b> Nmbr1: hmm, ok I'll wait and see. thanks.
[09:46] <amatsukamiz> do i run on terminal  sudo apt-get install adminer?
[09:47] <vnc786> wizrd: but package name like lib* xscreen* how can i do that ?
[09:48] <wizrd> vnc786: do what?
[09:48] <wizrd> most lib* are libraries
[09:48] <power_off> amatsukamiz: why don't you search first, if its available? try `sudo apt-cache search *adminer*'
[09:48] <wizrd> if needed by another package and it needs to be installed it will be installed
[09:49] <wizrd> and if you have installed a package with dpkg and it fails on dependencies you could try: 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[09:53] <vnc786> wizrd: thanks for reply  honestly speaking i am facing this issue for last couple of month and now i am tried because due to that message coming on my terminal normally packages like htop, etc get installed by apt-get install command but that message keeps coming
[09:53] <amatsukamiz> thanks ppl its working now
[09:54] <wizrd> vnc786: try the last command: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:54] <wizrd> It should reinstall failing dependencies
[09:55] <curatrix> Hi all I am installing mint onto a friends c700 HP. I normally go for the LTS. Is it worth making the jump to 15 or should I stick with 13?   Votes please
[09:56] <Deepfriedice> curatrix, What's the support period on those?
[09:56] <vnc786> wizrd: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.  --here is the result
[09:57] <wilee-nilee> !mint > curatrix
[09:57] <k1l> curatrix: you are in the wrong channel for mint support
[09:57] <AlexandreMBM> my answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/195251/add-to-panel-not-working-in-gnome-classic-on-12-04
[09:58]  * curatrix kicks himself
[09:58] <curatrix> sorry all
[09:58] <wizrd> vnc786: check this page out: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=93201
[09:58] <wizrd> might help
[09:58] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, When did things start to fail?
[10:00] <AlexandreMBM> WIN + ALT + Right Click
[10:00] <vnc786> Deepfriedice: after i was trying to install team viewer(through ubunut-software-center) but after that i recovered but again it has arised still
[10:00] <AlexandreMBM> I did want "Show Desktop". It is OK now.
[10:02] <AlexandreMBM> or only ALT + Right Click
[10:03] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, What if you just delete everything in /var/apt/cache/ ?
[10:03] <vnc786> Deepfriedice: wizrd: i just created new status file in /var/lib/dpkg/ i have mv to old file and apt-get -f install show 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:06] <vnc786> Deepfriedice:  i am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit & i am not having /var/apt  folder do  you mean /var/lib/apt/ but i cannot find cache folder
[10:08] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, My bad. The path is /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:08] <vnc786> Deepfriedice:  got that
[10:12] <vnc786> Deepfriedice: yes a part of my troubleshooting i just renamed the /var/cache/apt/archive folder to oldarchive some days ago
[10:12] <Sling> i want to permanently add a bunch of IP's (both ipv4 and ipv6, and also some on the lo device) to an ubuntu 12.04 box, and want it boot-proof, what is currently the recommended way to do this?