[05:52] <ducasse> good morning
[06:16] <Maik_aD> good morning
[06:19] <Maik_aD> where's lotuspsychje gone to.... haven't seen him/her since the last two days
[06:23] <ducasse> he's in maastricht on holiday
[06:23] <ducasse> iirc he's due back home today
[06:32] <Maik_aD> ah, great. Thank you for letting know ducasse
[06:47] <ducasse> yw
[06:48] <ducasse> he'll probably drop in here when he's back, check this afternoon eu time
[07:08] <Maik_aD> will check in later before i go to work
[07:08] <Maik_aD>  i'm off to bed in a few
[11:37] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[11:45] <marcoagpinto> guys!
[11:45] <marcoagpinto> it is the demon!
[11:58] <daftykins> D:
[12:55] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: hello
[12:56] <marcoagpinto> I was working on the Professor audio... everytime he phones me, he asks about it
[12:56] <marcoagpinto> 2,5 hours of birds singing in his village
[12:56] <marcoagpinto> I have to hear the whole audio and cut the parts in which he talks
[12:57] <marcoagpinto> so far, 2 hours done and no voice
[12:57] <daftykins> so just birds tweeting away for 2 hours? :P
[12:57] <marcoagpinto> yes
[12:57] <marcoagpinto> at 5am
[12:57] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:58] <daftykins> i would have thought you could easily spot voice with the waveform drawn
[12:58] <marcoagpinto> well, watching the waveform I found some clashes with I have cut
[12:58] <marcoagpinto> but no voices so far
[12:59] <marcoagpinto> maybe the voices will appear 10 minutes before the end?
[12:59] <marcoagpinto> the birds make a lot of noise, so the waveforms get bigger in some parts
[13:02] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: https://i.imgur.com/opBENnq.png
[13:02] <marcoagpinto> this is how it looks like in Nero
[13:02] <daftykins> audacity would be a better fit i'm sure
[13:03] <marcoagpinto> ohhhhh... I have never used it :(
[13:03] <marcoagpinto> I need to use the software I know how to
[13:04] <marcoagpinto> anyway, it was recorded on 5th May, it is almost August and I still haven't finished it
[13:16] <daftykins> it's really not that complicated
[13:23] <marcoagpinto> I am going to rest a bit... bbl... take care


 https://youtu.be/3aADeK-bSMU
 FYI - new container breaking exploit incoming. Impacts Docker, LXC, etc
[06:09] <floridagram-bot> Bess was added by: Bess
 Hi bess
 @KMyers, Totally McD Donuts
 Thanks for the heads up @KMyers. Any docs out yet?
 @KMyers found you a new screen
 https://thehackernews.com/2019/02/snapd-linux-privilege-escalation.html
[16:56] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Ha!
 @govatent - https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2019/q1/119
[16:56] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Does anyone like snap packages? They are just statically linked apps right?
 Thanks Keith
 I haven't tried snaps yet
 I'm old fashioned
 Get off my lawn
 @Luke Van Dervoort, It is the new preferred way to do things but I too dont like them. I am also old fashioned - then again I like to build things from source when I have times.
[16:59] <maxolasersquad> I have a number of applications installed as snaps. I don't really care if something is a snap, and apt package or whatever. As long as I can run the software I need.
 @RazPi, Can you fit that in carry on?
 I would like it as a souvenir if you dont mind
 XD I would if I could
 @govatent
 @govatent I may be running Coreboot on my Galago Pro.
 Nice!
 I can't wait to see it
 Working pretty well so far. Still a few bugs here and there.
 @KMyers not bad price. Gas here has been around 1.80
 @govatent, It is.. it was marked $2.09 a gallon at the pump
[20:36] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Hey. Anyone in this group host a D and D session?
 @Luke Van Dervoort, Not that I know of. I know @RazPi is trying to get into Table Top games - specifically Battle Tech
[20:38] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Huh dont know that one
 I have been wanting to play some D&D and WoD particular the Vampire the Masqurade part of WoD
[21:30] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> 5 ha, I used to play vampire when it was a card game
 I think ot started as a tabletop game in 1991
 I do still olay Vampire the Masqurade Bloodlines. It works pretty well under Wine if you use the shell script that comes with the Unofficial patch
[22:52] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> I never played the video game. I had like 300 cards ... good time
 Polygon: The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening remake coming to Nintendo Switch. … https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/13/18224033/legend-of-zelda-links-awakening-nintendo-switch-release-date-trailer-video-watch
 Now that is worth it
 Dammit Siva, you beat me to it
 I have to work from home on Monday. I hope ten megs up is enough


[05:49] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> is this the appropriate way to bridge? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces
[05:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> have the device id's changed?
[06:25] <lynorian> Shawn|i7-Q720M, You can also do this in network manager by selecting the option share with other computers
[06:26] <lynorian> I have done this with the built in ethernet and a pci card
[06:26] <lynorian> but you still need to install bridge-utils of course
[06:28] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I did that
[06:28] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> it didn't bridge
[06:28] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> but I didn't install bridge-utils
[06:28] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> is that all I was missing?
[06:29] <lynorian> Shawn|i7-Q720M, yes
[06:30] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ahh
[06:30] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I am going to go check this out them
[06:30] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> *then
[06:30] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> closer to my serial ip linking project
[06:47] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I screwed something up, can't even log into the laptop now
[06:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> how absurd...
[06:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I removed my changes from /etc/network/interfaces
[06:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> and now the bridge aint showing up
[06:55] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I'm not doing this right :(
[09:05] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> wow...
[09:05] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> lubuntu comes to us broken
[09:05] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> or to my machine at least
[09:05] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I can't even get it to bridge
[09:05] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> or even run an autostart script
[10:26] <sakib_007> can someone tell me, how can I set #Lubuntu on virtualbox -- in Mac OSX?
[11:16] <bener> Hi all!
[11:17] <bener> I've just set up a nice install of Lubuntu that I would like to clone to other machines - I am having major issues trying to clone the drive. I'm getting superblock errors, clonezilla fails when checking drive bitmap
[11:18] <bener> redo backup fails also
[11:18] <bener> Only with Lubuntu 16.10 - if I install 14.04  I can clone just fine
[11:19] <bener> fsck has not helped, no errors shown
[11:19] <bener> I've been trying to fix this one for hours but I'm no expert! Any help would be greatly appreciated
[16:10] <Glowol> HI there
[18:40] <shad0wrunner> Hello dear friends!  I'd like to ask a quick question: I have a laptop that has Windows 10 installed on it. I want to install Lubuntu alongside Windows 10 to dual-boot. I have an 8GB 3.0 USB stick and I've downloaded Rufus to burn the Lubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64 onto it, then after booting into Lubuntu via USB stick, I want to use Gparted to resize the Windows 10 partition and reduce it to make space f
[18:41] <shad0wrunner> Is this the correct path to follow to accomplish this?
[18:48] <krytarik> shad0wrunner: Part of that was cut off, but I'd rather resize the Windows system partition from itself.
[18:48] <shad0wrunner> From Windows?
[18:48] <krytarik> Yes.
[18:49] <shad0wrunner> How many patitions do I have to create in order to install Lubuntu?
[18:49] <shad0wrunner> 1 For Windows and 1 for Linux?
[18:50] <shad0wrunner> I mean "keep the existing partition" for windows
[18:50] <shad0wrunner> and create a new one for Lubuntu?
[18:51] <krytarik> Well, for Linux I personally only do swap and system - but one can also create a separate one for the '/home' stuff.
[18:52] <shad0wrunner> if i create a single partition would linux not add any extra partitions that are needed (swap)
[18:53] <krytarik> Well, you *can* do automatic partitioning - but I always do manual.
[18:56] <shad0wrunner> if i choose to do automatic partitioning would a problem occur
[18:57] <shad0wrunner> i don't want to break my windows 10
[19:17] <HanlonsRazor> linux is smart enough not to fuck up windows 10 partitions
[19:17] <HanlonsRazor> coded smart enough*
[20:32] <regedit> halp!
[20:33] <regedit> trying to install "Additional Drivers" in Software & Updates
[20:33] <regedit> it seems to be stuck, and /var/log/apt/term.log is filling up more & more with errors about Secure Boot Key
[20:34] <regedit> Invalid password
[20:34] <regedit> The Secure Boot key you've entered is not valid. The password used must be between 8 and 16 characters
[22:44] <leandro> requesitosminimos
[22:44] <leandro> requisitos minimos


[04:54] <Kilos> morning africa
[07:12] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:42] <Kilos> hi ongolaBoy
[08:30] <saoungoumi_> .
[08:32] <Kilos> hi saoungoumi_
[08:36] <saoungoumi_> happy to read you taday!
[08:36] <Kilos> yeah
[08:38] <Kilos> saoungoumi_  have you located any more users there?
[08:38] <Kilos> you in cameroon right?
[08:40] <saoungoumi_> yes
[09:08] <superfly> morning Kilos
[09:08] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[09:51] <Kilos> ho not_found
[09:51] <not_found> hello africa tell me how you're doing :p
[09:51] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[09:51] <not_found> not to shabby thank you
[09:53] <Kilos> hi Neo31`
[09:54] <Kilos> you made a quif in your hair today?
[09:55] <Neo31`> hi Kilos
[09:55] <Neo31`> :)
[09:55] <Neo31`> haha
[09:56] <Neo31`> how r u doing?
[09:56] <Neo31`> good u got the ubuntulog in here :)
[09:57] <Neo31`> there is some ubotu bot that helps with other stuff but isn't that important
[09:57] <Neo31`> we might need meetingology before our meeting also
[09:57] <Kilos> i dont know what thats is
[09:57] <not_found> you can request to use #ubuntu-meeting and use the bots they have... very handy also
[09:59] <Kilos> na we got jibu  here just neet to get a chair thats used to the commands
[10:00] <Kilos> maybe permissions to be sorted too
[10:00] <Kilos> jibu join #ubuntu-za
[10:00] <jibu> Kilos: You're not the boss of me
[10:00] <Kilos> ai!
[10:01] <Kilos> sounf familiar not_found  ?
[10:01] <Kilos> sound
[10:01] <Kilos> Neo31`  not_found  is in the UAE
[10:02] <Kilos> not_found  Neo31`  is in tunisia
[10:04] <Neo31`> :p
[10:04] <Neo31`> good idea not_found
[10:05] <Neo31`> but we can also get meetingology to come to us too
[10:05] <superfly> jibu: join #ubuntu-za
[10:05] <jibu> superfly: Joining #ubuntu-za
[10:06] <Kilos> Neo31`  you go ask them for that, they tired of me already
[10:11] <Neo31`> ok Kilos
[10:11] <Neo31`> soon
[10:11] <Kilos> np
[10:11] <Neo31`> as soon as i get free time
[10:11] <Kilos> no rush
[10:11] <Neo31`> if not tonight then tomorrow for sure Kilos
[10:12] <Kilos> cool
[10:12] <Kilos> you know how to use it?
[10:20] <not_found> o/ Neo31` :)
[10:20] <Neo31> not much Kilos , but I know little about the basics
[10:21] <Kilos> lol
[15:35] <Kilos> afternoon. kinda hot here


[20:19] <Nivex> Zareason vs. System76. Compare/contrast. Any other such vendors?
[20:33] <holstein> ive always wanted a system76 box
[20:33] <holstein> ive heard great things about zareason though
[20:34] <Nivex> it's about $500 for the 10" netbook I've spec'd out (delta $23 between the two vendors)
[20:34] <holstein> i never looked into any others, besides HP and dell or whatever
[20:34] <Nivex> Dell won't get another dime from me
[20:34] <holstein> it challening
[20:34] <holstein> i went with an asus i found on craigslist
[20:35] <holstein> next big machine purchase i make will be system76 though
[20:35] <Nivex> I have an Asus eeePC I got from woot. 9" screen is a bit small, and the flash on it is the first gen which is sloooooow
[20:35] <holstein> i got one of those too
[20:35] <holstein> this is a 10 inch
[20:35] <holstein> 1.6, gig of ram
[20:35] <holstein> the usual
[20:36] <Nivex> I was thinking the 10" netbook would replace it and my 15" laptop.
[20:36] <holstein> it did for me
[20:36] <Nivex> since I rarely need such a beast anymore
[20:36] <holstein> i have an early HP mininote too
[20:36] <Nivex> having the extra screen real estate is occasionally nice
[20:36] <holstein> with an express card slot
[20:36] <holstein> i use that with my firewire device for audio recording
[20:36] <holstein> i dont mix on it, but i probably could do a bit, and tracking on it works great
[20:37] <holstein> i got this EEE 1001p on craigslist for $150
[20:37] <holstein> battery is still great
[20:37] <holstein> like 6 hours
[20:37] <Nivex> my dad got one of the 10" eee's from newegg on sale.
[20:37] <Nivex> my big thing is I want SSD rather than HDD.
[20:38] <Nivex> That's probably the big price driver
[20:38] <Nivex> smallest flash you can get is 40GB
[20:38] <Nivex> 10x bigger than what's in my current eee :)
[20:38] <holstein> hehe
[20:38] <holstein> my old eee900 is an appliance now
[20:38] <holstein> its a synth module pretty much
[20:39] <holstein> i got it booting an SD card
[20:39] <Nivex> hmm, I suppose that's a thought
[20:39] <Nivex> though this thing is kind of due for a refresh
[20:40] <holstein> the battery did me in on it
[20:40] <holstein> i could have got a new battery for $50-70
[20:40] <holstein> $150 got me a nice new-ish machine
[20:40] <holstein> bigger keyboard and screen, and that 6 hour batter is handy


[00:02] <guiverc> release notes are excellent.  Two suggestions I'll repeat in following lines
[00:02] <guiverc> (1) I'd have preferred not all of "we decided to get ahead of the curve by shipping Calamares 3.3 Alpha 2 in 22.10." being bold;  I'd just have had "Calamares 3.3" bold
[00:02] <guiverc> (2) I'd suggest changing title of "Core Release Notes" as Ubuntu Core is a product, maybe "Ubuntu Release Notes"  (Aaron may have made that change to Common already)
[00:05] <teward> guiverc: you need to use a boucner :P
[00:05] <teward> i was trying to send you info earlier
[00:06] <arraybolt3> teward: guiverc has Matrix, if you send info there he'll get it.
[00:06] <teward> his matrix wasn't online earlier
[00:06] <arraybolt3> (Assuming Matrix works right, which it's not guaranteed to but whatever...)
[00:07] <teward> *shoves salt into arraybolt3's face*
[00:07]  * arraybolt3 hands teward a live jellyfish
[00:08] <guiverc> yeah sorry.   adding bouncer on server on my wishlist; but I don't see me getting to it anytime soon
[00:10]  * guiverc is logged into notes.lubuntu.me, thanks to teward :)
[00:59] <kgiii> Speaking of membership, I'm logged into chat most of the time but only reply if someone pings me. I do actually skim/read much of what's said. I've been meaning to thank arraybolt3 for jumping in and getting involved. You got up to speed quickly! Thanks!
[01:00] <arraybolt3[m]> kgiii: Wow, thanks! Congrats on your membership renewal, and thanks for the encouragement. This has been hard but extremely fun and I look forward to continuing to do this!
[01:02] <kgiii> I've been watching. I just don't type often, 'cause I don't have anything important to say. I just do my testing and fill in reports. Besides, much of what gets said goes over my head (detail-wise, conceptually I understand it just fine).
[04:24] <arraybolt3> Right, I need to refresh that installation of the Compaq. Whew, testing is fun but tricky!
[04:25] <arraybolt3> (Got a notification about the testing checklist that reminded me.)
[19:46] <tsimonq2> Heya, looking through backlog and release notes
 "guiverc: I'll throw it in a..." <- So, I'm curious about snap preseeding
[19:48] <tsimonq2> Snaps still do have to pre-seed as part of being installed in a chroot (via livecd-rootfs).
[19:48] <tsimonq2> Did they completely rewrite that part of livecd-rootfs while I wasn't looking or does it still pre-seed snaps, just not with as many issues?
[19:49] <arraybolt3[m]> I don't know for sure, I just know that Firefox no longer takes a minute or so to show up.
 "the fact it's been rebranded '..." <- I called this as soon as the messaging came out... "Ubuntu Pro" was a poor choice.
[19:49] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Do you happen to know which livecd-rootfs upload fixed this issue? Otherwise I can look.
[19:50] <tsimonq2> I don't have much time today... but I can certainly help finish things up :)
[19:50] <arraybolt3[m]> I'll find out, should be easy. It'll be in my email.
[19:50] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley: "This bug was fixed in the package livecd-rootfs - 2.789"
[19:51]  * arraybolt3[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c53dfe5d30b69cb11a945ea98e71aa8945988cb0
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1991011
[19:51] -ubot93:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1991011 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "snaps not preseeded on Kinetic images" [Critical, Fix Released]
[19:54] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley: ^
[19:54] <arraybolt3[m]> (old message deleted since I decided to copypaste the whole thing rather than just give one quoted line)
[19:55] <tsimonq2> muchas gracias
[19:55]  * tsimonq2 uploaded an image: (8KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/linuxdelta.com/vbHiGiHmdwfYqufCShwOwwEv/image.png >
[19:55] <tsimonq2> thanks for the link tewardbot :P
[19:55]  * tsimonq2 runs
[19:55] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh also I was able to use that weird "Install System" button to install Lubuntu and it worked just fine.
 "https://bugs.launchpad.net/..." <- leokolb and arraybolt3 you guys are AWESOME for your help on this bug report! Thank you so much!
[20:13] <tsimonq2> > <@arraybolt3:matrix.org> ```
[20:13] <tsimonq2> > This bug was fixed in the package livecd-rootfs - 2.789
[20:13] <tsimonq2> >
[20:13] <tsimonq2> ...(truncated)
 "release notes are excellent..." <- Thank you Chris, looking into it
[20:14] <tsimonq2> I think we have the items sorted, but I appreciate the compliment on the initial draft :)
[20:15] <tsimonq2> So, in terms of bolding that text, the reason I bolded the entire sentence is because it's also significant. We're shipping this in a final release probably before any other distro has. If you're skimming, I think that's a good thing to stand out. I can change the text on a majority opinion though :)
[20:16] <tsimonq2> For the headers, yes I think that has been fixed. I do wish they would fix the branding around Ubuntu Core Developer vs Ubuntu Core so I stop confusing people when I use Core and mean the former :)
[20:17] <tsimonq2> "Ubuntu Core" is marketing, the Core of Ubuntu is separate. I get it though, avoiding ambiguity is a good thing :)
 "Simon Quigley: Not even vendor..." <- Makes sense. My point more being, while Kubuntu Focus isn't a thing in and of itself, Kubuntu Focus' Kubuntu is.
 "> <@arraybolt3:matrix.org> ```..." <- Right but now that preseeding is enabled again, the "first ever boot" bit doesn't happen on the user's system, right?
[20:25] <arraybolt3[m]> I mean, it was taking a long while for Firefox to even show up in the application menu before, and now that's not a problem.
[20:25] <arraybolt3[m]> It's back to like it is on Jammy.
[20:25] <arraybolt3[m]> (Eating with one hand, typing with the other, thus slow typing.)
[20:32] <tsimonq2> Let me break this down a bit further...
[20:32] <tsimonq2> livecd-rootfs, being the tool used to create the squashfs, creates a directory, runs debootstrap, and `chroot`s in, to install packages and make changes to configuration files
[20:32] <tsimonq2> snapd is required to run snaps. Debs can be installed in place via chroot, but in order to install snaps, (as in, go through the full installation process of downloading the snap + metadata, forming a global cache, installing it into its proper place, mounting the loopback filesystem, and setting up the plugs), you need snapd to be running.
[20:32] <tsimonq2> ...(truncated)
[20:33] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah. OK, wall of text incoming, this from a practical standpoint.
[20:35]  * tsimonq2 coffee in the meantime, sec...
[20:36]  * genii sips
[20:36] <arraybolt3[m]> So on Jammy, when the user first boots the box, Firefox is just there. Whether they boot the live CD or a newly installed system, it's there. Maybe something has to happen in the background to get it there, but it works so fast that it's just there.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f44a6416c21fee200ca904e8f443674ad092a25f>)
[20:37] <arraybolt3[m]> (I don't believe all of this info is in the bug report, some of it came from talking in either -release or -flavors, can't remember which one now.)
[20:39] <arraybolt3[m]> So the bit about "takes slightly longer on first boot" is false. It was true for a bit there, but it is no longer. Or if it is still true, it's so fast that it's negligible.
[20:40]  * arraybolt3[m] thinks coffee isn't a bad idea at all, I may go get some momentarily here
[20:42] <tsimonq2> Do we have a quantitative measurement of how long it takes to boot now with snap preseeding? I'm talking, initial boot to using it right away, are we 100% sure we're to the point where the user won't notice it?
[20:42] <tsimonq2> I appreciate your thoughts on this, and I'm not disagreeing. We just need to draw a clear line of "how slow is too slow?" if we're going to be basing our decision on this off of speed.
[20:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Well it's definitely faster than two minutes. I can time trial it real quick.
[20:42]  * arraybolt3[m] spins up VM
[20:43] <tsimonq2> (I put a very deep amount of thoughts into release notes in general, simply because this is probably the only statement some people are going to see from us in 6 months. I want to make it count, and address all of the concerns that we would normally be asked about.)
[20:43] <arraybolt3[m]> (Oh c'mon Boxes, don't freeze on me now!)
[20:43] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Thank you. Approximate measures are okay, it would just be nice to have *some* quantitative value.
[20:43] <arraybolt3[m]> (Ah, I have a VBox VM in the background, that's probably part of the problem.)
[20:44] <tsimonq2> I'm going to very sparingly use our equivalent of @ room really quick...
[20:44] <tsimonq2> !standup
[20:45] <tsimonq2> I'm going to be finalizing the 22.10 release first thing tomorrow morning, if there is ANYTHING ELSE we should release note, address, look at, whatever you can think of, please let me know.
[20:45] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: That's the last ongoing concern I can think of, what do you think?
[20:45] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, the process of preseeding is currently so fast that even racing to get to the start menu as fast as I could when it showed up, Firefox was already there and launched immediately.
[20:45] <arraybolt3[m]> (Like I had my mouse hovering over the spot where the menu was going to be before it showed up.)
[20:46] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: oh wow... so how about a fresh install boot? So, not as fast as the ISO (not loaded straight into memory), and not as fast as a followup boot, where the snap is already installed
[20:46] <arraybolt3[m]> I can't think of any other issues that really matter at this point. Will test a fresh install real quick.
[20:46] <tsimonq2> Thank you :)
[20:47] <arraybolt3[m]> (Nice thing about having a new laptop is that 'real quick" is actually really quick now)
[20:47] <tsimonq2> >:D
 "OK, the process of preseeding is..." <- Same results on a fresh installation on the first boot.
[20:52] <arraybolt3[m]> (I even logged in as fast as possible, which was pretty fast since my password for the VM was "z".)
[20:53] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Since you're new around these parts, the way it's gone in the past when I'm RM is...... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/bf75bb3979863874ea5505d4301881a25b092f5d>)
[20:54] <tsimonq2>  * arraybolt3: Since you're new around these parts, the way it's gone in the past when I'm RM is...
[20:54] <tsimonq2> A) Everyone take the weekend off from Lubuntu. Party. Enjoy yourselves. Celebrate the success. Pass along the bugs, I have the time set aside.
[20:54] <tsimonq2> B) About next week or so, or perhaps sooner, I'll bootstrap everything for the new release. I usually personally help out with core components (Lintian, debootstrap, etc.) and do version numbers in Cala and default settings. I documented it, but perhaps my documentation was too terse for anyone else to follow... :)
[20:54] <tsimonq2> ...(truncated)
[20:54] <arraybolt3[m]> Makes sense. Sounds like I came in at point A last time and missed it, then trickled into B and C early thereafter.
[20:55] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Wow, okay. I'm glad we looked into it, but I think we're okay proceeding as-is. Thanks :)
[20:56] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: It always is unfortunate when I see someone join like halfway through the cycle... "it's great that you're here and contributing, but you missed the best part of the cycle, the 'throw it at the wall and see if it fits' phase" :P
[20:56] <tsimonq2> s/fits/sticks/
[20:56] <arraybolt3[m]> As for the bulk SRUs, the only one that might happen that I can think of is a weird thing with software-properties-{kde,qt} that was found in Ubuntu Studio last night, but the Release Team seems to have that under control already. We may want to do something about KDE System Settings, but other than that I think we're good.
[20:57] <arraybolt3[m]> As for Debian... *dusts off battle suit* <-- I'll need your help with Andrew, since when I tried to do the MR solo, it went... poorly.
[20:58] <tsimonq2> (And if anyone else sees something Aaron and I missed, please raise it. :) )
[20:58] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: No worries, I gotchu
[20:58] <tsimonq2> We'll get it sorted.
[20:58] <arraybolt3[m]> I mean I ended up with LXQt developer privileges but I didn't manage to even get libfm-qt merged in. I'm still not experienced enough with Git to really fix everything yet (need to sit down and learn that), and Andrew is not all that easy to work with.
[20:58] <arraybolt3[m]> (Er, push access to the Debian repos... you know what I'm trying to say.)
[20:58] <tsimonq2> Let's just make sure we're keeping an eye out for people syncing over Lubuntu deltas... so they know to talk to us first, and that it's an ongoing conversation.
[20:59] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Early 23.04 would be the times we'd probably sit down and sync to get this stuff done
[20:59] <arraybolt3[m]> Makes sense. Probably also we'll want to tackle Calamares again in there.
[20:59] <tsimonq2> Definitely.
[21:00] <arraybolt3[m]> I learned quite a bit about C++ over the end of the cycle also as a result of being plunged headlong into KDE development, so I may be able to help with the installer prompt.
[21:00] <tsimonq2> Well, looks like we have our work cut out for us next cycle, for this cycle we have another 24 hours where I would expect everyone to be doing constant testing ;) ;) (only kidding if you are!)
[21:00] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Remind me once 22.10 is all said and done, in the meantime it's testing time ;) ;)
[21:00] <tsimonq2> test test everyone test
[21:00] <arraybolt3[m]> :) Pretty sure Chris and Leo already obliterated that problem seven ways from Sunday with a mech and a bulldozer.
[21:01] <arraybolt3[m]> I mean I don't get how they do as much testing as they do, but wow.
[21:01] <arraybolt3[m]> (I kinda got tied up taking Ubuntu Studio testing over, so I may be slow doing my own testing, but I'll try to get in there.)
[21:01] <tsimonq2> I mean, they have really gotten their stuff together, I don't disagree with you a bit (knocking it out of the park!). The more testing the better, though :)
[21:02] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: No worries.
[21:02] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Don't worry... I once held #1 for an entire cycle in the entire Ubuntu project on the ISO QA test ratings... it's a different yet productive mindset :)
[21:02] <tsimonq2> (Ah, me when I was 14. I miss the energy.)
[21:03] <arraybolt3[m]> It's hard! Trying to multitask different computers and everything is tricky.
[21:03] <tsimonq2> Oh, for sure!
[21:03] <arraybolt3[m]> I had enough problems with testing on two computers last night... and I'm used to multitasking.
[21:03] <tsimonq2> Well, when I joined, I was told I had to do QA before I could learn development, but I see Chris introduced you to the project, and he does the QA stuff, so shrug I'm not worried :)
[21:03] <tsimonq2> (Alongside others, mainly Chris and Leo though)
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Anyway... I need to put in at least a few $dayjob hours today, but if you need anything, please ping. Thanks for all your help :)
[21:04] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍 Thank you guys!
[21:04]  * arraybolt3[m] starts another QA test on Studio and then goes to light the hot water heater
[21:13] <kc2bez[m]> OK, caught up with the backlog. I will try to keep an eye in the usual places tomorrow as much as I can with $day job duties too. Let me know if there is something you need help with.
[21:26] <kc2bez[m]> Simon Quigley: I don't think I've mentioned it, or at least mentioned it enough, it is great to have you back as RM.
 "Simon Quigley: I don't think I'..." <- Thanks, glad to be back :)
[23:52] <tsimonq2> My brother mentioned a pretty good point after reading the release notes...
[23:52] <tsimonq2> It should be noted that such issues with smartcards and Firefox are due to confinement. If someone has the chance, it would be worth asking if you can enable a snap plug/slot or if it straight up doesn't work. Whoever wrote it, I would like some insight on what the issues are that you experienced. If we're going to mention that specifically, we should be honest about what the problem is


[08:28] <oSoMoN> ubuntu-qa: the autopkgtests for qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu failed, blocking the migration of webbrowser-app from -proposed, and I have no clue why, could it be a flaky test/temporary failure, and if so can the test job be retried? (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#webbrowser-app)
[08:35] <jibel> oSoMoN, from the error it's a problem with the shutdown of the testbed, unrelated to the webbrowser obviously
[08:35] <jibel> oSoMoN, you can ping pitti he can retry the test
[08:36] <oSoMoN> thanks jibel, I’ll do that
[10:20] <morphis> sil2100, Mirv: hey! time for another upload?
[10:27] <sil2100> morphis: sure, in a moment though!
[10:27] <morphis> sil2100: ok
[10:46] <sil2100> morphis: piiing
[13:59]  * sil2100 off to lunch
[15:15] <kgunn> trainguards just trying not to "hurry up" for QA's sake at the end of the week...so can we get silo 21 landed so we can rebuild silo 10 on top?
[15:16] <kgunn> oops scratch "not"
[16:58] <kgunn> sil2100: just curious, u-s-c is still in proposed pocket for xenial...should we force merge so we can get on with rebase, rebuilding?
[16:59] <kgunn> excuses doesn't show anything concerning...
[16:59] <kgunn> afaict
[17:08] <cjwatson> kgunn: $ grep-aptavail -nsPackage -Pe '^u[^-]*-s[^-]*-c[^-]*$' | sort -u | wc -l
[17:08] <cjwatson> 8
[17:08] <cjwatson> your abbreviations are ambiguous :)
[17:08] <kgunn> sorry unity-system-compositor
[17:08] <kgunn> cjwatson: ^
[17:09] <cjwatson> kgunn: ok, it migrated a few minutes ago, see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-system-compositor/+publishinghistory - I assume the train will catch up shortly
[17:10] <kgunn> cjwatson: hmm, so here if i do apt-cache policy unity-system-compositor, it still shows installed/available as the same?
[17:10] <kgunn> maybe i don't know how it all works
[17:11] <kgunn> more like...obviously i don't know how it all works :)
[17:12] <cjwatson> kgunn: publisher takes time to run
[17:12] <kgunn> cool
[17:13] <kgunn> right makes sense...i suspect my "apt-get update/apt-cache policy" method of checking will show it  when the train does
[17:15] <cjwatson> probably rather afterwards
[17:18] <cjwatson> the train checks the publication status using the LP API - it doesn't care about whether the publisher has put it all on disk in an aptable form
[17:19] <cjwatson> (AIUI)
[17:26] <cjwatson> kgunn: there, landed
[17:37] <kgunn> ta
[18:55] <robru> kgunn: you want silo 21 landed? That's webbrowser-app and was never published, and needs a rebuild. Not sure what you're talking about
[19:05] <boiko> alesage: hi, regarding silo 52, we found one problem about the confinement: reading mms group chat settings is not working
[19:05] <boiko> alesage: the fix is on its way, just letting you know because we will have to rebuild messaging-app
[19:06] <alesage> boiko ack thx
[19:15] <kgunn> robru: nope, no silo 21 interest from me
[19:17] <Saviq> jibel, is it a script that marks u-d-s-i bugs as fix committed on landings? should probably look at all tasks to see if others are > Invalid < Fix released
[19:24] <jibel> Saviq, you mean to close other tasks too?
[19:24] <Saviq> jibel, rather not close the top task if not all tasks are open
[19:25] <jibel> Saviq, the top task is closed when it's in the archive and there is a bug # in the changelog
[19:25] <jibel> Saviq, in which case it shouldn't be close since it'll be on the image?
[19:26] <Saviq> jibel, case in point - bug #1536383
[19:26] <Saviq> jibel, it got closed even though there's still outstanding tasks on some projects
[19:26] <Saviq> and it isn't always the case that we need/want to land altogether in one silo
[19:27] <jibel> Saviq, understood, but it seems more like a edge case than the rule, isn't it? in general when there is 'closes: ####' in the changelog it means the case is close
[19:28] <Saviq> jibel, for that particular project, not for other ones
[19:28] <Saviq> necessarily, I mean
[19:28] <robru> 7:15:42 <kgunn> trainguards just trying not to "hurry up" for QA's sake at the end of the week...so can we get silo 21 landed so we can rebuild silo 10 on top?
[19:28] <Saviq> jibel, which is why I'd check other tasks, and only close the "top" c-d-s-i task when all others are closed
[19:29] <Saviq> (automagically, that is)
[19:30] <jibel> Saviq, okay, point taken. I'll check if there are lot of cases where the top task should be closed but won't because other tasks are still open.
[19:45] <kgunn> robru: taken care of, it was usc
[19:47] <kgunn> robru: but yeah definitely wrong silo #...brain fart
[19:51] <robru> ok
[20:26] <boiko> robru: could you please trigger a rebuild of messaging-app xenial pc64el on silo 52?
[20:26] <robru> boiko: on it
[20:26] <boiko> robru: thanks!
[20:27] <robru> boiko: you're welcome!
[23:29] <robru> sil2100: you're still up?
[23:29] <sil2100> robru: yeah
[23:29] <sil2100> What's up?
[23:30] <robru> sil2100: oh, I a few hours ago I pushed a bug to production which will break silo auto-merges, I just pushed a fix now, but it won't reach production for 45 minutes. hopefully that silo you just published doesn't migrate for at least an hour or so to avoid the bug. it's a race now ;-)
[23:31] <robru> or maybe I'll get webops to roll it out faster...
[23:31] <sil2100> robru: but it's only for auto-merges for now, right?
[23:32] <sil2100> And, how does it break them: that they won't work or that they'll break trunks etc. ;p ?
[23:32] <robru> sil2100: yeah, why, is that silo only manual sources?
[23:32] <sil2100> No no, but I was just curious if we can force merge some that might seem blocked by auto-merges being down
[23:32] <robru> sil2100: the breakage is subtle, it'll probably push to trunk ok, but then it'll try to set the branch status and fail with an unhandled traceback. probably harmless actually
[23:32] <robru> sil2100: oh, no, all merging is broken
[23:33] <sil2100> Ah, ok, ACK ;) I hope proposed migration is slow today then!
[23:33] <robru> sil2100: I've got webops rolling out the fix soon
[23:33] <sil2100> \o/
[23:33] <sil2100> robru: thanks
[23:33] <robru> sil2100: heh, sorry for breaking things
[23:41] <robru> sil2100: ok, the fix is in production, hopefully it works ;-)


[23:12] <Killeroid> tanath: try filing a bug in mozilla's bugzilla or join their irc network(irc.mozilla.org) and ask someone in the firefox channel, maybe someone there can help
[23:12] <n8tuser> !who | DavidCanarias
[23:12] <luigi> DeVnOrE, how could i set this permission?
[23:12] <tanath> apostle, and you can ping the router?
[23:12] <Arod22> Failed to check for installed and available applications
[23:12] <zsquareplusc> zetheroo: maybe its running as different user,  e.g. root
[23:12] <apostle> tanath, yes
[23:12] <zetheroo> zsquareplusc: ok.. it worked when i did it the 3rd time
[23:12] <tanath> apostle, is the dns failing?
[23:12] <DeVnOrE> chmod a+r /home/luigi/wwwserver
[23:12] <Arod22> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.
[23:13] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: ubottu wants us to go private OK?
[23:13] <zetheroo> zsquareplusc: and now the install just finished
[23:13] <Arod22> can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[23:13] <zetheroo> zsquareplusc: thanks for your help
[23:13] <DeVnOrE> or change the group to www and chmod g+r
[23:13] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> nope, stay put here
[23:13] <apostle> I am connected from anothe rmachine
[23:13] <DeVnOrE> maybe even recursivly
[23:13] <tanath> Killeroid, well it might be something funky with ubuntu, rather than them. it's not affecting you
[23:13] <DavidCanarias> ok
[23:13] <apostle> and dns works but yes it is failing from that machine on the network but can ping local computers
[23:13] <DeVnOrE> chmod -R a+r /home/luigi/wwwserver
[23:13] <maxbaldwin> how can I find my architecture? nano /etc/cpuinfo ?
[23:13] <DavidCanarias>  So is the file deleted so the space is free again so I can start again..... ?
[23:13] <apostle> the /etc/resolve.conf are identical on the working system and the new system
[23:14] <tanath> apostle, does pinging external addresses fail from every machine on your network?
[23:14] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> im not going to respond to you if you dont prefix my nick on your responses
[23:14] <Arod22> ?
[23:14] <apostle> tanath, no
[23:14] <apostle> tanath, just the new machine
[23:14] <fde> maxbaldwin: cat /proc/cpuinfo ... but you probably want to just uname -a
[23:14] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: Upps! Apologies.....
[23:14] <jason__> Hi, I'm getting very poor performance running Vino on an AMD 64 3000+ (2.0 Ghz) PC that I'm using as an OpenVPN/Samba File & print server. Even at 800x600 over a 100 mbit wired LAN it's quite slow. This seems to be due to Xorg's high CPU usage. Is there a solution to this issue?
[23:14] <tanath> apostle, firewall? check sudo iptables -L
[23:14] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: So is the file deleted so the space is free again so I can start again..... ?
[23:14] <luigi> DeVnOrE, i've done chmod -R a+r /home/luigi/wwwserver, but this did'nt work yet!
[23:14] <fde> maxbaldwin: you don't want to be editing anything in /proc unless you know exactly what you're doing....
[23:15] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> yes
[23:15] <jason__> I run RealVNC on two windows machines and get much better performance even running over the internet on 1 Mbit upload
[23:15] <sludge> I would like to get my logitech quickcam to work i.c.w. amsn in ubuntu intripid, does anyone have got it working?
[23:15] <maxbaldwin> I did cat /proc/cpuinfo and got what I wal looking for, thanks.
[23:15] <DeVnOrE> what url are you using luigi ?
[23:15] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: Thks. I will now start from the beginning and put in the first command and come back
[23:15] <constantin_> i have a dual booting laptop with os x and ubuntu with all my music on my os x partition. is there an easy way to have my os x always mounted and keep my music accessible in ubuntu? whenever i try to access the partition through the ubuntu gui it says permission denied
[23:15] <fde> sludge: have you tried it yet... it should be supported out of the box... got it working here, sure
[23:15] <zsquareplusc> jason_: to get speedy VNC desktops, run a virtual second server with vncserver or such. sharing display 0 is always slower as it need to read the screen back
[23:15] <ddelony> I'm going to try running Ubuntu 8.10 on Virtualbox on Mac OS X. Any tips?
[23:15] <wedgeoflemon> im having problems with dual booting windows and ubuntu. i remember i set it up for a dual boot, but it doesnt give me the option to start xp. any help please?
[23:15] <apostle> tanath, referring to firewall on new system?
[23:16] <luigi> DeVnOrE, i'm using "http:localhost"
[23:16] <fde> ddelony: not related to this channel, you should have no issues though
[23:16] <DeVnOrE> luigi: is there a index.html in /home/lubic/igi/wwwsservevr
[23:16] <vock> Just wondering if someone knew of a messenger client, like pidgin lite? I tried trillian through wine, but I'd prefer something native to linux...I just don't like pidgin's 33 MB resource stamp.
[23:16] <tanath> apostle, whichever isn't working
[23:16] <sludge> I have tried it many time, but with cheese i do not get a picture.
[23:16] <ddelony> fde: Hmm, I thought running Ubuntu under virtualization would be on topic.
[23:16] <tanath> apostle, if you can ping from one, but not the other, we should be able to rule out the router
[23:16] <apostle> tanath, iptables are alls et to accept
[23:17] <constantin_> i have a dual booting laptop with os x and ubuntu with all my music on my os x partition. is there an easy way to have my os x always mounted and keep my music accessible in ubuntu? whenever i try to access the partition through the ubuntu gui it says permission denied
[23:17] <apostle> tanath,  I can
[23:17] <gwennn> constantin:you must make a link in your home directory
[23:17] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: I got the first one wrong so is this the correct command ....   dd if=/dev/zero  of=disk-image count=100 bs
[23:17] <fde> vock: umm, trillian has about a 50-70mb footprint on Windows... Live Messenger has about the same... its not that much for an IM client
[23:17] <luigi> DeVnOrE, i didn't see any index.html...
[23:17] <jason__> zsquareplusc, That would be a fine solution. However, why would it affect Xorg's CPU usage to such an extent? Network speed isn't the problem as I'm on a 100 mbit lan.
[23:17] <fde> ddelony: its not
[23:17] <tanath> apostle, do you have machine-specific rules on your router? perhaps you're only allowing pings & possibly other traffic from the one machine thru whitelisting
[23:17] <tim167> how do i run an *.egg ?
[23:17] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> sudo  dd if=/dev/zero  of=disk-image count=100 bs=1M     this means a 100Meg file
[23:17] <constantin_> gwenn: how do i do that?
[23:17] <luigi> DeVnOrE, index.html is on /var/www
[23:18] <apostle> tanath, I have 3 other machines that access the internet with no problem
[23:18] <fde> tim167: what exactly is a .egg?
[23:18] <aoupi> tim167: with eggdrop I presume
[23:18] <DeVnOrE> try copying it to the public dir
[23:18] <tanath> apostle, and you didn't configure anything for them on your router?
[23:18] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: One DVD is 1.3GB and the other 1.9GB so would I need to put more than 100bs
[23:18] <vock> fde: On windows, my trillian was only bout 15 MB or so...
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> jason__: that i dont know. it may also depend on the viewer. some are broken and request full screen update instead of differential updates every time
[23:18] <jason__> zsquareplusc, also, when i tried using vncserver it just gave me a box with a terminal window. Is there a howto that can assist me in setting it up to show a desktop.
[23:18] <apostle> tanath, no I did not....just setting up the ip's statically
[23:18] <constantin_> gwennn: how do u create a link my home dir to achieve that?
[23:18] <luigi> DeVnOrE, this is my IP: <IP_ADDRESS> if you want to try to open it....
[23:19] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> adjust count to correspond to your need
[23:19] <jason__> zsquareplusc, I'm using the VNC 4 Enterprise viewer on Windows. Do you know of any better viewers for windows?
[23:19] <tanath> apostle, and the new box can ping the router? and other networked machines?
[23:19] <gwennn> run as root   ln your address point_a_directory
[23:19] <apostle> tanath, yes
[23:19] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser so would I type in 3.2GB??
[23:19] <gwennn> see man ln
[23:19] <aoupi> gwennn: that won't really help his permission problem
[23:19] <jason__> zsquareplusc, basically I just want a desktop. It doesn't have to be on :0.
[23:19] <tanath> apostle, you might try taking the network offline for a minute to see if it can ping when it's the only machine connected (directly)
[23:20] <fde> vock: no, that was the resident memory footprint... more is in shared memory. Difference being, shared memory can be taken over if someone else needs it.
[23:20] <constantin_> i can access the partition
[23:20] <constantin_> just not partitions
[23:20] <gwennn> yes
[23:20] <constantin_> errr
[23:20] <constantin_> permissions
[23:20] <FloodBot1> constantin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:20] <gwennn> chmod u+x
[23:20] <vock> fde: Thanks, didn't know that
[23:20] <sludge> what is the username and password for <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:20] <luigi> DeVnOrE, didn't wonk anyway on LAN..
[23:20] <constantin_> can i chmod i the gui or do i need a console command?
[23:20] <aoupi> constantin_: you know how to mount and about /etc/fstab?
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> jason__: i think you can create a start file within ~/.vnc/ and launch gnome-session in it. dont remenber its name right now
[23:20] <tanath> apostle, but it sounds like something specific to that machine. have you done anything to it yet?
[23:20] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> think a lil bit please,  count=100  bs=1M  for 100 meg  so what you think is 1.2gig ?
[23:20] <apostle> its so strange should be working
[23:20] <constantin_> well the drive is already mounted
[23:21] <constantin_> or rather i can see it in ubuntu
[23:21] <DeVnOrE> luigi: i think i
[23:21] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: Sorry being a newbie is a nuisance isn't it? would this be2300bs?
[23:21] <fde> vock: Linux enjoys keeping things in shared memory even more than Windows though, because RAM is faster than a hard drive.
[23:21] <metbsd> is there software to enable fingerprint scanner?
[23:21] <apostle> tanath, I had to manually set up the ipconfig for its network card
[23:21] <DeVnOrE> luigi: i think i'v located the prob
[23:21] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> okay, im giving up, i dont have the patience right now,
[23:21] <DeVnOrE> in your conf-file
[23:21] <gwennn> constantin:now make the link
[23:21] <zsquareplusc> jason__: $HOME/.vnc/xstartup
[23:21] <luigi> DeVnOrE, let's hope!!!!
[23:21] <tanath> apostle, maybe that had something to do with it
[23:21] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: I understand you. Thanks very much for your patience so far......
[23:21] <constantin_> what's the exact command i use in terminal?
[23:21] <apostle> /sbin/ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:21] <DeVnOrE> give me a sec
[23:22] <tanath> apostle, should check your config
[23:22] <apostle> tanath, why would I be able to ping internally and not outside and the gateway and the dns are set up properly
[23:22] <jason__> zsquareplusc, ah, thank you - just what i wanted
[23:22] <luigi> DeVnOrE, yes!
[23:22] <metbsd> is there software that let me login with fingerprint?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> metbsd: Yes
[23:22] <tanath> apostle, that is weird...
[23:22] <fde> vock: look at 'free -m' for instance... the cached column is available for other apps, but is currently occupied until then for performance... you buy RAM to use it, not to have it wasted... or at least I do.
[23:22] <metbsd> Jordan_U: what is it?
[23:22] <jason__> zsquareplusc, I set this up years back on Debian 3.1 but forgot the file to edit
[23:22] <unlink> i have an AR242x and have tried ndiswrapper, ath_pci, and ath5k, and with each of them, when i try iwlist $interface scan, i just get "$interface: no scan results" (wireless worked in windows)
[23:22] <n8tuser> apostle-> how did you confirm you have good route and gateway?  can you post your route -n  results ?
[23:23] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: Sorry I wasn't replying to you 1.2gig bit I was replying to my total capacity of the two DVD i.e. 2.3GB = 2300bs
[23:23] <DeVnOrE> luigi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/75445/
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> metbsd: there is software that lets you log in with your bluetooth device :-)
[23:23] <n8tuser> unlink-> is interface defined if not,  $interface will also be blank
[23:23] <gwennn> lyou need the exact address pointing your music file
[23:23] <constantin_> gwennn: what's the exact terminal command to make the link?
[23:23] <metbsd> what's software to let me use my fingerprint
[23:23] <metbsd> ?
[23:23] <unlink> n8tuser: i'm just using $interface as a variable to mean "ath0" or "wlan0" depending on the driver
[23:23] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: the 1.2gig would be 1200bs right? Or have you now given up on me forever?
[23:23] <luigi> DeVnOrE, could i delete my conf and paste your pastebin?
[23:23] <tanath> apostle, are you sure the address you're trying to ping is up? try pinging google.com ?
[23:24] <b33r> some apps are using A LOT of ram what seems to be the problem?? audacious 250MB, firefox 179MB, pidgin 164MB, nautilus 133MB
[23:24] <DeVnOrE> i don't remember if you should finish the DocumentRoot with a / or not i think it's not
[23:24] <n8tuser> DavidCanarias-> i've given up on you
[23:24] <DavidCanarias> n8tuser: OK, bye
[23:24] <DeVnOrE> luigi: it's only the <Document that i have changed
[23:24] <tanath> apostle, and you can get online with the new box, right?
[23:24] <jotil> b33r: that is abnormal
[23:24] <fde> metbsd: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+fingerprint&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a   knock yourself out, don't be lazy next time
[23:24] <apostle> tanath, I cannot
[23:24] <b33r> jotil, I know =0
[23:24] <gwennn> ln your address nameofthelink
[23:24] <peepsalot> i upgraded to ubuntu intrepid, and now my laptop WiFi LED is always blinking.  it never used to blink before.  it's kind of annoying
[23:25] <tanath> apostle, oh, you can't get online? i thought you just couldn't ping
[23:25] <peepsalot> is there a way to just make it on, or off instead of constant blinking?
[23:25] <jotil> b33r: top and see what is going on
[23:25] <unlink> the only thing i haven't tried is manually compiling a driver -- but that is not an option because i will not be present for future upgrades
[23:25] <constantin_> and will that solve my permission thing gwennn?
[23:25] <DeVnOrE> luigi: then restart the server sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[23:25] <Jordan_U> metbsd: I have never used it but "thinkfinger"
[23:26] <fde> unlink: keep things to one line, makes it easier to follow you... what exactly is your issue?
[23:26] <tanath> apostle, n8tuser asked: " apostle-> how did you confirm you have good route and gateway?  can you post your route -n  results ?"
[23:26] <luigi> DeVnOrE, just copy the line 11 or all the file?
[23:26] <strN00B> i want to partition my Ubuntu systems harddrive into 2 file systems.. one with etx3 (ubuntu OS), and one with  NSTF as a shared drive.. will Ubuntu be able to share the NSTF drive?
[23:26] <n8tuser> unlink-> http://madberry.org/2008/11/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-to-work-on-810-intrepid-ibex/
[23:26] <b33r> jotil, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/75446/
[23:26] <DeVnOrE> luigi: sorry should be  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[23:26] <apostle> n8tuser, what was the route command?
[23:26] <DeVnOrE> luigi: only line 11
[23:26] <gwennn> enter in your music file as root and then chmod u+x nomefile
[23:26] <luigi> DeVnOrE, done..
[23:26] <unlink> n8tuser: yes, i have seen that, but compiling a driver is not an option for me
[23:26] <wedgeoflemon> how do i set up my graphics card?
[23:26] <luigi> restarting!
[23:27] <jotil> b33r
[23:27] <constantin_> thanks
[23:27] <strN00B> i want to partition my Ubuntu systems harddrive into 2 file systems.. one with etx3 (ubuntu OS), and one with  NSTF as a shared drive.. will Ubuntu be able to share the NSTF partition?
[23:27] <jotil> b33r: restart your X
[23:27] <tanath> apostle, 'route -n'
[23:27] <b33r> jotil, why? :/
[23:27] <aoupi> constantin_: check out umask
[23:27] <constantin_> umask?
[23:28] <DeVnOrE> luigi: luigi do "touch /home/luigi/wwwserver/index.html
[23:28] <gwennn> constantin take a look at man chmod
[23:28] <n8tuser> apostle-> how did you confirm you have good route and gateway?  can you post your route -n  results ?
[23:28] <fde> unlink: no offense, but you should have thought about that when purchasing the hardware... you can just lock the kernel at the current version though if everything works fine  :/
[23:28] <tanath> apostle, what's the gateway for <IP_ADDRESS>?
[23:28] <apostle> tanath, its not brining up anything now
[23:28] <tanath> apostle, that's not right. ;)
[23:28] <aoupi> constantin_: umask does wonder for wrong permissions on mounted drives
[23:28] <unlink> fde: i didn't purchase the hardware, i'm helping someone else installl linux
[23:28] <fde> !holding > unlink
[23:28] <tanath> apostle, try a reboot?
[23:28] <strN00B>  i want to partition my Ubuntu systems harddrive into 2 file systems.. one with ext3 (ubuntu OS), and one with  NSTF as a shared drive.. will Ubuntu be able to share the NSTF partition?
[23:28] <apostle> tanath, what is the exact command I should run to get it going...
[23:28] <jotil> b33r: seems like Xorg is causing trouble? not a big deal takes a second. save all your work. hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:28] <constantin_> is it an app or a terminal command?
[23:28] <aoupi> constantin_: also check out the uid and gid mount options
[23:28] <gwennn> but you can also make it graphically
[23:28] <fde> !pinning > unlink
[23:29] <aoupi> constantin_: I'm a bit tired and going to bed now, otherwise I could explain more in-depth :)
[23:29] <gwennn> terminal
[23:29] <unlink> yeah, i know about apt pinning, but that means no security fixes in the kernel
[23:29] <iAreBaboon> hi all, i have a dualboot windows ntfs + ubuntu 8.04... my windows was corrupted so i reinstalled it... although it removed grub it doesn't seem to have reinstalled the MBR properly because i just get a hanging black screen on startup.... anyway how can i re-install grub from a liveCD ?
[23:29] <tanath> apostle, have you tried playing with the network manager?
[23:29] <fde> unlink: see the bottom of that wiki page... they insisted on keeping the holding info on that page I guess...
[23:29] <constantin_> okay
[23:29] <iAreBaboon> is it at all possible actually ?
[23:29] <fde> unlink: I wrote the top part
[23:29] <constantin_> i'll just use man uid and man gid
[23:29] <b33r> jotil, isn't it better to "fix" the problem instead of restarting X every now and then :/
[23:29] <aoupi> constantin_: man mount, you'll find it in there
[23:29] <apostle> tanath, I don't have x installed
[23:29] <constantin_> okay thanks
[23:29] <tanath> apostle, you running ubuntu?
[23:29] <ddelony> iAreBaboon: Hmmm, does the installer find your partitions?
[23:30] <finferflu> hey guys
[23:30] <jotil> b33r: what exactly do you think is causing the memory hog?
[23:30] <finferflu> i was trying to install 8.04 on a machine
[23:30] <zsquareplusc> iAreBaboon: i think this should work. terminal-> sudo chroot /media/<yourubuntuparthere>; update-grub
[23:30] <tanath> apostle, i think you run ifdown, and ifup
[23:30] <ddelony> iAreBaboon: Does Ubuntu see your Windows partition?
[23:30] <finferflu> but after choosing the language, the enter key doesn't work
[23:30] <fde> unlink: that way, if you hold it, the kernel won't be upgraded ever again until the option is turned off manually... so you don't have to worry, but you might have to guide them through any security updated that might be an issue
[23:30] <finferflu> so I can't proceed with the installation
[23:30] <b33r> jotil, I don't know -.-
[23:30] <finferflu> any ideas?
[23:30] <luigi> DeVnOrE, maybe the restarting didn't work: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/75451/
[23:31] <apostle> tanath, route -N     Dest... <IP_ADDRESS>   Gateway <IP_ADDRESS>   genmask.....<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:31] <unlink> fde: yeah, i know about apt pinning, but that means no security fixes in the kernel
[23:31] <jotil> b33r: i say restart X. start those 4 applications one by one and see what happens
[23:31] <apostle> tanath, should my gateway column say <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:31] <zsquareplusc> finferflu: and the keypad enter?
[23:31] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: same thing
[23:31] <fde> unlink: the top part is pinning, the bottom part is holding... hate that they confuse those two...
[23:31] <DeVnOrE> luigi: yes it worked that's only a warning
[23:31] <jotil> b33r: sounds like an idea or you have something else on your mind?
[23:31] <apostle> tanath,  how do I get my gateway configure from ifconfig?
[23:32] <b33r> jotil, after I restart X it will work just fine but it just starts using more after few hours
[23:32] <luigi> DeVnOrE, touch did'nt work...
[23:32] <jotil> b33r: so you have been down the road already....
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> finferflu: you have selected your keyboard or do you want an other?
[23:33] <rand0m> wow, just being on the google main page.... firefox was just taking up 97% of my system resources
[23:33] <tanath> apostle, i don't think ifconfig tells you your gateway
[23:33] <b33r> jotil, yeah but I don't want to restart every few hours :/
[23:33] <fde> unlink: your options are: 1) replace the wireless nic with something better supported; 2) hold the kernel and lack security updates; 3) teach the user how to compile the drivers themselves when required; 4) Use an OS with better support for Atheros stuff... that's it.
[23:33] <luigi> DeVnOrE, impossible to touch /home/luigi/wwwebserver/index.html: any file o dir.
[23:33] <jotil> b33r: it is really difficult to say about what is causing the memory hog without monitoring
[23:33] <tanath> apostle, but try 'sudo ifconfig down && sudo ifconfig up'
[23:33] <rand0m> anyone know if firefox has glitches or like.... bandwidth suxoring problems
[23:33] <fde> unlink: Linux is accepting a lot of Atheros drivers right now... but apparently yours isn't there yet
[23:33] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: no, it's the keyboard I want to use, I mean it's just the first screen before starting the liveCD
[23:33] <DeVnOrE> luigi: wwwserver is misspelled
[23:33] <apostle> tanath, I got it
[23:33] <unlink> fde: do you know any distributions which have this packaged?
[23:33] <iAreBaboon> ddelony, zsquareplusc: to give more detail... basically i have 2 linux OS' + 1 windows.   but the windows got corrupted somehow such that grub was able to boot both linuxes but not the windows partition.... i reinstalled via the reinstallation dvd but after the installer restarted i just end up with a bllinking dash forever in place of the old grub.... so i'm not sure why i'm not seeing the...
[23:34] <iAreBaboon> ...windows MBR menu like i should.... but anyway i was thinking to reinstall grub and see if i can boot windows that way.   so i must do this from a liveCD... i'm currently loaded in ubuntu 8.04 liveCD
[23:34] <unlink> sid?
[23:34] <apostle> route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth1
[23:34] <Din|BSD> How do you 'select all' with nano, is that even possible?
[23:34] <b33r> jotil, so there's no solution for this?
[23:34] <fde> unlink: if ubuntu doesn't, no one does.
[23:34] <apostle> tanath, thanks :)
[23:34] <tanath> apostle, then check route -n again
[23:34] <tanath> apostle, works now?
[23:34] <apostle> tanath, yes thanks man :)
[23:34] <Fougner> unlink: you searching for Atheros WLAN drivers? =)
[23:34] <tanath> apostle, cool. :)
[23:34] <fde> unlink: Ubuntu is about as lenient as it gets with non-gpl drivers
[23:34] <unlink> Fougner: bingo
[23:34] <apostle> tanath, thank man really appreciate it
[23:34] <Fougner> unlink: which card?
[23:34] <fde> Fougner: yes he is... packaged in a repo
[23:34] <unlink> fde: true but some (like sid) are more up-tod-ate
[23:34] <tanath> apostle, yw
[23:34] <jotil> b33r: you will have to monitor and google,,,
[23:34] <zsquareplusc> finferflu: ha, there. hm. maybe it hangs. i've seen PC's with problems using these menus. things you could do is: 1) check the CD 2) try again 3) install with default, change language later
[23:35] <unlink> Fougner: ar242x
[23:35] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ok... done!
[23:35] <Fougner> fde: oh
[23:35] <fde> unlink: not really, afaik, sid froze some months ago for the release on lenny sometime in the next decade
[23:35] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: well, the odd thing is that the arrow keys work. I have tried with different languages, and it still fails
[23:35] <fde> s/on/of/
[23:36] <luigi> DeVnOrE, shit! FORBIDDEN again!
[23:36] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: also, the fact that Enter works for selecting the language and stops working right after that is very odd
[23:36] <Fougner> unlink: I've had problems with my AR5007EG for like a year, and the I tried patching the kernel with the wireless 2.6 something
[23:36] <fde> !language | luigi
[23:36] <zsquareplusc> finferflu: and <TAB>? it should start the line editor. maybe is enter working there
[23:36] <luigi> fde sorry!!!
[23:37] <luigi> DeVnOrE,  FORBIDDEN again!
[23:37] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: what to after pressing TAB?
[23:37] <jotil> b33r: because i have never had any memory hogging issues on Linux, i am afraid i will not be of much help
[23:37] <unlink> fde: i'm just very surprised that ndiswrapper didn't work... /var/log/messages even listed the encryption capabilities of wlan09
[23:37] <iAreBaboon> so my question was basically.... can i reinstall grub to a certain partition while running from liveCD ? or must i reinstall linux completely so it will install grub and hopefully detect my windows and llinux partitions
[23:37] <zsquareplusc> finferflu: enter :-)
[23:37] <jadams> I've got an nvidia geforce 9800 XT, massively powerful card.  In counterstrike:source under wine, it gets only around 30fps on modest video settings, the same as my previous card.  this card should dominate.  What am I doing wrong?
[23:37] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: so what does TAB do?
[23:37] <Fougner> unlink: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[23:37] <b33r> jotil, ok thanks anyway
[23:37] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: I think I didn't get it
[23:37] <fde> unlink: there are a lot of kernel developers fighting to get ndiswrapper to never be able to work...
[23:37] <jotil> b33r: but your Xorg seems a bit too busy for my taste. you might want to look into that.
[23:38] <GodfatherofEire> Having a small problem with synaptic, a package tried to install, but failed, and now I cant seem to fix this problem, any ideas?
[23:38] <Fougner> unlink: look there, I don't know what you want really, but that's the way I got it working
[23:38] <zsquareplusc> iAreBaboon: the commands i gave would install the grub as it was configured for your installed ubuntu. it would restore the menu you had
[23:38] <elvirolo> hi everyone
[23:38] <unlink> ndiswrapper looks like the best option for me right now
[23:38] <DeVnOrE> try changong DocumentRoot and <Document /var/www/privat/> to /home/luigi/wwwserver
[23:39] <unlink> that is, it is closer to working than anything else i've tried
[23:39] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ok. but how?
[23:39] <fde> unlink: if your card is listed on Fougner's link, use that... ndiswrapper is a horrible solution, and is considered illegal and unwelcomed.
[23:39] <zsquareplusc> finferflu: well, maybe TAB isnt working with that menu type. the isolinux/syslinux stuff has grown many options and menu stlyes.. if enter isnt working i'd try booting with the default and set the language later. the installer will ask you anyways
[23:39] <elvirolo> how do i disable the gnome keyring?
[23:39] <DeVnOrE> luigi: i'll post a conf for you in about 3min
[23:39] <gusto5> hi, ive lost sound all of the sudden (altogether), any hints?
[23:39] <unlink> i've dealt with compiling wireless drivers for awhile... it's ugly and not fun (ipw3945 from nov 2006-mid 2007)
[23:39] <kkathman> how would one change the background color of the ubuntu menus ?
[23:40] <fde> unlink: it links Windows binary drivers into the linux kernel, against code that is GPL only... so it causes quite the stir
[23:40] <b33r> jotil, want me to paste my xorg configuration?
[23:40] <unlink> fde: i know what it does
[23:40] <GodfatherofEire> kkathman system-preferences-appearance
[23:40] <luigi> DeVnOrE, thanks a lot! i'm waiting for your post!
[23:40] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: yeah, I tried with default, but no joy, however I still have to see what TAB achieves :P
[23:40] <unlink> i had to not only recompile my whole kernel to get it to work, but also remove the whole wireless subsystem and replace it with a patched version
[23:40] <kkathman> GodfatherofEire, hmm I dont think that changes the actual ubuntu menu tho...it does change windows and apps tho
[23:41] <GodfatherofEire> Like the background for the panels?
[23:41] <fde> kkathman: right click desktop > change desktop background ... go to themes tab, customize theme, then play with the colors some
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> finferflu: it should show the kernel/parameter line and allow to edit that line. but maybe that fetaure is not possible with the menu on the cd
[23:41] <kkathman> GodfatherofEire,  the background color of Applications, Places, System
[23:41] <stitch_my_smile_> alt-0
[23:42] <fde> kkathman: the colors of the theme apply to that, yes....
[23:42] <kkathman> its that grungy grey
[23:42] <finferflu> zsquareplusc: alright, thanks for that, I will try, else I will burn a new cd and see how it goes. Have a nice day :)
[23:42] <fde> kkathman: that means your current theme can't be customized
[23:42] <gusto5> can anyone lend me a hand with sound (or lackthereof)
[23:43] <fde> gusto5: depends... lspci | grep -i audio
[23:43] <GodfatherofEire1> kkathman: if you mean the panels, then all you have to do is adjust the panel colors, which will adjust the main menu
[23:43] <gusto5> fde, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[23:43] <Fougner> unlink: all I can say is that I have the AR242x too, and I got it to work quite easy
[23:44] <Luyang> Hello all... Is it possible to run Ubuntu from a live CD without a working windows installation? I get non-existing or corrupt file hal.dll (hardware abstraction layer) error message upon bootup of the computer. I wanna get it started so that I can repair any broken files...
[23:44] <kkathman> GodfatherofEire,  well there are options to customize Windows, Input boxes Selections and Tooltips - which one changes the menu?? lol
[23:44] <kkathman> or maybe its border?
[23:44] <zsquareplusc> Luyang: yes it is the standard desktop cd is also a live cd
[23:44] <Anacranom> Luyang, yes
[23:44] <tyl3r> hi all. I have just installed intrepid. I have the same problem as in Gutsy. Font especially in Firefox 3 is terrible. I have read some guides, also done a reconfigure on fontconfig and tried different settings but I cant find a nice solution. Anyone has some good tips on this ?
[23:44] <fde> gusto5: lsmod | grep snd-hda-intel return anything?
[23:45] <GodfatherofEire1> kkathman, if you mean modifying a specific theme to something else, then you'd have to get the source code, and go from there
[23:45] <gusto5> fde, nope
[23:45] <kkathman> hmm
[23:45] <kkathman> ok
[23:45] <unlink> Fougner: what did you do?
[23:45] <gusto5> fde, if i may add, sound worked until today's bootup, regular and restricted modules
[23:45] <DeVnOrE> luigi: my server is fubar... just a couple of mins more
[23:45] <fde> gusto5: sorry, replace the -'s for _'s ...
[23:45] <keyhack> has anyone here had success with getting sound to work through HDMI?
[23:46] <gusto5> a
[23:46] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ok, don't you worry!
[23:46] <wedgeoflemon> is there a way to have a trash icon on my desktop?
[23:46] <gusto5> fde, http://www.pastebin.ca/1263907
[23:47] <Fougner> unlink: I downloaded the patch from the link I posted here, and just exec it
[23:47] <Fougner> and I'm quite a noob at this =)
[23:47] <b33r> some apps are using A LOT of ram what seems to be the problem?? audacious 250MB, firefox 179MB, pidgin 164MB, nautilus 133MB http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/75446/
[23:47] <fde> wedgeoflemon: applications > accessories > terminal ... type 'gconf-editor' ... browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop ... check the corresponding box
[23:47] <kkathman> GodfatherofEire, I kinda looked on gnome-look.org, but there's GTK, Metacity and GDM themes and I'm not to sure which ones I need to look at
[23:48] <fde> gusto5: that was a yes/no question  ;)
[23:48] <Fougner> kkathman: GDM is the login-screen
[23:48] <gusto5> fde, yes i get a response =P sorry lol
[23:48] <fde> gusto5: lsof /dev/snd/*
[23:48] <kkathman> Fougner,  ahh ok thanks
[23:48] <Fougner> kkathman: and GTK is for gnome environment
[23:48] <GodfatherofEire1> kkathman, The GTK themes are window decorator themes, the GDM themes are the login, and Metacity is the desktop
[23:48] <gusto5> yes response? need to see it fde?
[23:48] <unlink> is this packaged in jaunty?
[23:48] <zsquareplusc> b33r: these are virtual memory figures. i.e. with all the libraries loaded. but the libraries are also shared between applications. so the real memory used isnt as much as the sum of these numbers
[23:48] <fde> gusto5: is there anything except the mixer in there?
[23:48] <gusto5> nope just the mixer fde
[23:49] <Fougner> unlink: now there's a problem.. I don't know what jaunty is
[23:49] <kkathman> GodfatherofEire,  ok, so if Im running compiz, I should probably look at the GTK2 themes then
[23:49] <Fougner> kkathman: that would be the best =D
[23:49] <unlink> Fougner: intrpepid < jaunty
[23:49] <b33r> zsquareplusc, so how can I check my "real" ram usage?
[23:50] <Fougner> unlink: intrepid less than jaunty
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> b33r: depends on what applications you prefer. in the console a top or ps ax or free is interesting
[23:50] <Fougner> unlink: you mean the new ubuntu distro ?
[23:50] <unlink> Fougner: it's the ubuntu 9.04
[23:50] <fde> gusto5: then there is no reason it wouldn't work.... it is likely a pulseaudio issue, are you running intrepid?
[23:50] <Fougner> oh.. I'm confused, you don't mind explain it, do you?
[23:50] <gusto5> fde, i am running intrepid on 2.6.27-7 kernel
[23:51] <unlink> i'm wondering if the kernel packages for jaunty have the new madwifi drivers
[23:51] <gusto5> fde, its confusing because it worked since installation till yesterday lol
[23:51] <GodfatherofEire1> unlink, they already have a alpha/beta of Jaunty released?
[23:51] <fde> gusto5: for fun then, try 'pulseaudio --stop && pulseaudio --start' ... ignore the errors, and try to play a sound... anything?
[23:51] <unlink> no, just some packages uploaded
[23:51] <Fougner> unlink: I have no idea..
[23:52] <Scunizi> unlink: Jaunty help is available in #ubuntu+1
[23:52] <b33r> zsquareplusc, but top is saying I'm using a lot I already pasted the output of top :/
[23:52] <wedgeoflemon> when i have the trash on my desktop the trash always apears to be full even when i empty it
[23:52] <GodfatherofEire1> Unlink, what sort of packages, like, any specifics?
[23:52] <zetheroo> my wireless connectivity and printing is horrible with Intrepid
[23:52] <fde> unlink: currently, I don't think Jaunty is being populated with anything new
[23:52] <gusto5> fde, nope
[23:52] <unlink> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[23:52] <gusto5> fde, wont recognize --stop or --start
[23:52] <mikkel_> need help! Realtek 8187B - Wireless, Ubuntu 8.10 cannot find the hardware lsbusb-output:Bus 006 Device 003: ID 0bda:8198 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[23:52] <hmw> i had compiz running, then i accidently unchecked "Mirror Screens" in the resolution settings. Now my Radeon9600 is in clone mode and i cant activate the advanced graphics stuff anymore. Can i reset the thing? Where does the ATI driver store its settings?
[23:53] <zetheroo> I can print test pages from the Printing Properties dialog .... but no programs will print at all!
[23:53] <fde> gusto5: last guess would be to restart again then, other than that, I have no idea....
[23:53] <gusto5> okay, thanks a lot fde
[23:53] <Serval> I installed KVirc, but where did it go?
[23:54] <GodfatherofEire2> And does anybody have any advice on getting a winprinter to work, like how to somehow adapt it to linux, or would I have to start from scratch to get it working?
[23:54] <Fougner> hmw: try "aticonfig --initiate" or something in terminal
[23:54] <fde> gusto5: sound is overly finicky on linux, and everything they do to better the situation just makes it more complicated when things go wrong to troubleshoot  :(
[23:54] <DeVnOrE> luigi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/75460/
[23:54] <hmw> Serval: try "which KVirc" (if KVirc is the program binaries' name
[23:54] <kitche> GodfatherofEire2: cups is used most likely unless you have very odd printer
[23:54] <Kanzar> hi... i'm trying to set up azureus - the ports have been properly forwarded at the router (at least, the same settings would have worked in windows ?_?), but I am getting 'unable to test port' - am using Firestarter, outbound is permissive by default
[23:54] <Serval> where do I try "which KVirc"?
[23:54] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ok, i'll see the pastebin!
[23:55] <fde> Serval: another thing to try: dpkg -L kvirc | grep bin  (or without the grep part to see everything it installed)
[23:55] <Fougner> Serval: in the terminal =)
[23:55] <DeVnOrE> luigi: check that the paths are right
[23:55] <GodfatherofEire2> kitche, here's the problem, as far as I know, its as good as a paperweight under linux. At least according to openprinting
[23:55] <Fougner> hmw: I mean, "aticonfig --initial"
[23:56] <DeVnOrE> luigi: and do "chown -R luigi:www /home/luigi/wwwserver"
[23:56] <luigi> DeVnOrE, can i just copy and paste your conf?
[23:56] <DeVnOrE> yes
[23:56] <hmw> Fougner: aah! i now remember that i could "repair" stuff with aticonfig in my previous ubuntu, just forgot, that it existed. i will have to download it, but now i think, i am fine. thx
[23:56] <Kanzar> ._.
[23:56] <metbsd> i need to install nvidia driver 177, where do i fetch it and place it for installation
[23:56] <luigi> DeVnOrE, or i had to check each line?
[23:56] <gusto5> fde, no luck, but thanks for your efforts
[23:57] <DeVnOrE> luigi: nah
[23:57] <Kanzar> alright, now i'm getting "NAT Error - Connection to <IP_ADDRESS>:16292 closed - end of stream during read."
[23:57] <darkdeeper> metbsd, nvidia website
[23:57] <dr-fridric>  I downloaded the program nerolinux-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86 version rbm, but I can not install it?
[23:57] <gaby> hello everyone, i am pretty new to linux and i want to know if and how can i enable system sounds with compiz fusion?ive tried many versions of linux and in none sys sound with compiz wont work!anyone have ideas?
[23:57] <Kanzar> i'm fairly certain the port is correctly forwarded at the router, so... what is wrong with my firestarter config?
[23:57] <Kanzar> (firestarter is also not reporting any blocked connection)
[23:57] <Kanzar> *connections
[23:58] <mikkel_> Need help! RTL8187B works in Vista, but not in Ubuntu 8.10! lsub output: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 0bda:8198 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[23:58] <Serval> Ok, I found KVirc in /usr/local/bin/kvirc, but how do I run it?
[23:58] <kkathman> GodfatherofEire,  have you heard of theme engines??  If so, how are these installed??
[23:58] <darkdeeper> Kanzar, did u open ur port in ur computer
[23:58] <Fougner> kkathman: you have some of them in Synaptic..
[23:58] <Kanzar> yeah
[23:58] <Kanzar> i have
[23:58] <Kanzar> oh
[23:58] <Ademan> bugs.freedesktop.org has a bad ssl cert according to firefox, reason for concern?
[23:58] <Kanzar> just used www.utorrent.com/testport.php?port=16292
[23:58] <Kanzar> it says open
[23:58] <FloodBot1> Kanzar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <GodfatherofEire2> Beat me to the punch twice Fougner
[23:59] <Kanzar> -_- whoops. anyway, yes, I have forwarded, the utorrent check works, not the azureus check
[23:59] <Fougner> GodfatherofEire2: oh, sorry? =)
[23:59] <kkathman> Fougner well I was looking for Aurora
[23:59] <metbsd> how do i install software..
[23:59] <Kanzar> so, I'll assume that it all works, and it's just azureus' port check which is just weird
[23:59] <Fougner> kkathman: that one, I think you have to compile yourself..
[23:59] <Werenerd> evening all, is there anyone here familiar with SSH' from a location outside your home network?
[23:59] <luigi> DeVnOrE, chown: group not valid: 'luigi:www'


[19:11] <cool_skeleton_95> I got a ubuntu flavor on a virtual machine in VirtualBox but the resolution is tiny, is there any way to increase it?  I have tried doing some internet searches but they have not worked (probably because I'm quite new to this)
[19:21] <teward> cool_skeleton_95: install the vbox guest additions in the vm
[19:21] <teward> it'll provide drivers, etc. to use almost any other resolution you can configure in there
[19:21] <teward> most of the ones that're better than the tiny ones too ;)
[19:22] <cool_skeleton_95> I think I have successfully installed box guest additions, run the code, and restarted, do I simply change the resolution from the display settings?
 yup
[19:25] <cool_skeleton_95> when I do that, it simply resets to the default resolution
[19:30] <cool_skeleton_95> Wait, I got it to work. Thanks so much for your help!
 yup
[21:25] <arl90pitt> anyone know where I can download a clean sources.list file for Bionic Beaver? Mine seems to be corrupted or something, returns an error using sudo apt update
[21:30] <kc2bez> arl90pitt: Take a look at this AskUbuntu post https://askubuntu.com/questions/443036/what-is-the-correct-output-of-cat-etc-apt-sources-list
[21:31] <kc2bez> I think that will get you what you need.
[21:31] <arl90pitt> Thanks!
[21:31] <kc2bez> np, happy to help.
[23:34] <likeafox> Hi. In the file manager when I click connect to remote server, why does it not give the option for samba connection type?
[23:41] <likeafox> either after I installed smbclient or cifs-utils, I was able to type a smb:// url in the location bar to access a server, but still not seeing it in connect to server dialog, hm.
[23:42] <likeafox> I guess I solved my original problem but I might forget this is how I access samba shares since there's no interface for it
[23:42] <kc2bez> You can select network from the shortcuts on the left as well.
[23:43] <kc2bez> It is also possible to create bookmarks.
[23:43] <likeafox> I noticed that one but I think it's only for the local subnet and not neighboring subnets
[23:43] <likeafox> bookmark is a good idea