[01:28] <stdin> andreasw: was going to warn you, everything is scsi in feisty, so your hda would be sda :P
[01:28] <andreasw> stdin: also normal IDE drives?
[01:29] <balint> andreasw: but is it possible?
[01:29] <stdin> andreasw: yes, even normal IDE https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[01:29] <andreasw> balint: I don't know but I think if you can't receive it it won't work
[01:30] <balint> well i can recieve them, i see them, i just cant save them :(
[01:30] <andreasw> stdin: back to the old days where you had to SCSI emulate your IDE burner to work for linux
[01:30] <Xera> custom emotes suck anyway
[01:30] <balint> Xera: :D but i used to use them :)
[01:31] <Xera> they're so damn annoying
[01:31] <Xera> xD
[01:31] <stdin> andreasw: I remember, now you'll have everything on a SCSI layer
[01:31] <andreasw> stdin: Can you still change settings with hdparm because it only works with IDE drives
[01:31] <balint> Xera: well there are sometimes, but i dont use them in every word, so i dont change leters to emoticons...
[01:32] <andreasw> stdin: I think I should go back to debian, less crazy changes to the system ;)
[01:32] <Xera> balint: lol
[01:33] <stdin> andreasw: don't know about hdparm, I haven't tried yet, but I doubt it works anymore
[01:34] <andreasw> stdin: How will I then change multiple sector cound to 16?
[01:34] <andreasw> stdin: Because that increases system responsability a lot under high hd load
[01:34] <hak5fan> I have some more problems with my installation.... When I try to boot ubuntu my pc just restarts... this happens excatly 50% of the time...
[01:34] <hak5fan> very strange don't you think?
[01:35] <andreasw> hak5fan: Check your RAM with memtest86+
[01:35] <stdin> andreasw: I haven't had a chance to read over the wiki page yet, only got the link a few mins ago, maybe it's not needed
[01:35] <andreasw> hak5fan: You can do that by selecting it from the boo menu at system startup
[01:36] <hak5fan> ok ill do that... btw how do you adress people in irc?
[01:36] <hak5fan> like you just did
[01:36] <andreasw> stdin: I hope so because if you can't change it it would be a big backstep
[01:36] <Xera> hak5fan: type part of the name then press tab
[01:36] <Xera> like hak *tab* = hak5fan
[01:36] <hak5fan> Xera: tnx
[01:37] <Xera> np
[01:37] <andreasw> I also don't understand why my second network device is eth2 and not eth1
[01:37] <stdin> andreasw: If I don't find out from the wiki, I'll ask in #ubuntu+1 later, see if they have an answer
[01:37] <kkosmo> someone can help me
[01:37] <kkosmo> ?
[01:38] <andreasw> stdin: ok
[01:38] <andreasw> kkosmo: Tell us your problem otherwise we can't know if we can help you
[01:38] <kkosmo> somone can help how i can print in printer lexmark z6100 what i need to do
[01:39] <kkosmo> i am in kubuntu 6.10
[01:39] <andreasw> kkosmo: go to system settings and configure it there
[01:39] <tobias_> hmm i still have problems with my video card ... appearently everything is installed and it detects the card but i can't put my resolution higher
[01:39] <kkosmo> yes but there no have this printer
[01:39] <andreasw> kkosmo: You will find that in the k-menu
[01:39] <kkosmo> in the list
[01:39] <andreasw> hmm
[01:40] <andreasw> kkosmo: Did you also google?
[01:40] <kkosmo> no
[01:40] <kkosmo> help
[01:41] <andreasw> the probelm is that I don't have that printer and so I don't know which driver you need or whether it is not supported
[01:41] <waylandbill> may not be a supported model.
[01:41] <kkosmo> ok i fing
[01:41] <kkosmo> find
[01:41] <kkosmo> that printerr
[01:41] <kkosmo> sec
[01:42] <Rythan> Speaking of printers, does anyone have experience with the Turboprint driver?
[01:42] <waylandbill> linuxprinting.org is usually a good place to start.
[01:42] <kkosmo> look in the model
[01:42] <kkosmo> i dont find my printer
[01:43] <matthias> hi
[01:43] <waylandbill> just because a printer can be bought doesn't mean it's supported under Linux, so you may be out of luck
[01:43] <kkosmo> i think that printer supported in linux
[01:43] <kkosmo> i have the list
[01:43] <kkosmo> of the printers that not supported
[01:43] <matthias> i want to use my pda with gnome! i got a connection, but i've got a  last question. the tutorial sais i have to open some ports on the firewall, what must i do to open them?
[01:44] <kkosmo> and my priner
[01:44] <matthias> following ports: 5678:tcp, 5679:tcp, 990:tcp
[01:44] <kkosmo> not in this list
[01:44] <Xera> matthias: unless you installed a firewall there isn't one
[01:44] <matthias> hmm ok
[01:44] <matthias> thx
[01:44] <matthias> no iptables?
[01:45] <Xera> dunno
[01:45] <matthias> Xera: ok
[01:45] <ctd_> Dear Experts , Need help with upping the screen resolution. Hardware .... Samsung 940BW Monitor supports 1440x900, Motherboard Intel 946GZIS , GMA3000 . Current resolution @ 1280x1024. Need help , tried editing xorg.conf , did no good.
[01:45] <tobias_> hey i got more or less the same problem
[01:45] <Xera> ctd_: ctrl alt - or +
[01:46] <ctd_> Xera : Did not understand that.
[01:46] <Xera> press ctrl + alt + "+"
[01:46] <ctd_> When and where ?
[01:46] <kkosmo> hi someone how i can format partition from the linux
[01:46] <kkosmo> ?
[01:47] <ctd_> Tobias_ : Do you have a similar problem with resolution etc ?
[01:47] <Xera> kkosmo: use cfdisk
[01:47] <tobias_> ctd: yes
[01:47] <Xera> ctd_: just press it, it'll change your resolution
[01:47] <stdin> kkosmo: what do you want format it as ?
[01:48] <ctd_> Xera : Just tried it , did not good.
[01:48] <Xera> ctd_: hmm
[01:48] <tobias_> nor did it here
[01:48] <Xera> well it works here
[01:48] <ctd_> Hmm
[01:49] <Xera> press Ctrl and Alt and plus or minus, not the ones under the f keys, the ones on the numpad
[01:49] <tobias_> i did that o,O
[01:49] <Xera> um
[01:49] <ctd_> yes , thats what I tried , no luck.
[01:49] <ctd_> Ok , I am running Kubuntu
[01:49] <ctd_> KDE
[01:49] <Xera> same
[01:49] <tobias_> same here
[01:49] <Xera> lol
[01:50] <tobias_> lol
[01:50] <Xera> Qt: 3.3.6
[01:50] <Xera> KDE: 3.5.2
[01:50] <Xera> kde-config: 1.0
[01:50] <stdin> ctd_: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" then choose the resolutions you want to be able to use
[01:50] <ctd_> Hmm , my guess is that there has to be tweak made to the xorg.conf with appropriate settings , just need to find the right settings. So far I hve put it the recommended vertical and horizontal refresh freqs etc.
[01:51] <ctd_> stdin : Are you a bot ?
[01:51] <stdin> ctd_: no :P
[01:51] <ctd_> :) Thank god !
[01:51] <Xera> !resolution
[01:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:51] <stdin> !xconfig
[01:51] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[01:52] <ctd_> stdin , let me try that , I am sure ubotu is a bot :)
[01:52] <Xera> well duh
[01:52] <Xera> XD
[01:52] <stdin> !bot
[01:52] <Xera> !botsnack
[01:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:52] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:52] <kkosmo> !printers
[01:52] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:52] <balint> i read somewhere that i can use pictures instead of usernames on login screen. how can i set that?
[01:53] <Xera> O_o?
[01:54] <ctd_> tobias_ : Did you try the reco from stdin ?
[01:55] <tobias_> could you give me that command again _
[01:55] <ctd_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[01:55] <ctd_> Hopefully if this works , I will get a new name , so far ctd has stood for crash test and die.
[01:55] <tobias_> mhh
[01:55] <tobias_> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:56] <ctd_> Hmm , perhaps you have some other installation or upgrade in progress.
[01:56] <stdin> tobias_: try: sudo fuser -k /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[01:57] <ctd_> stdin : what does fuser do ?
[01:57] <tobias_>    /var/cache/debconf/config.dat:  5869
[01:57] <stdin> ctd_: kills the process that's locked the file
[01:57] <ctd_> thx
[01:57] <ctd_> I can't wait to restart X now , thanks for your help. Bye
[01:57] <tobias_> ok and how do i enable another resolution there ?
[01:57] <fdoving> fuser -vki is nice. it'll ask you if you want to kill the process locking the file
[01:58] <matthias> hi everybody...i got some source from an svn an now i have to make ./bootstrap do i need some packages for bootstrap?
[01:58] <rolando> hola
[01:58] <tobias_> there are only 3 ones with a [*]
[01:59] <rolando> is there a way to return to the default xorg settings automatically?
[01:59] <stdin> tobias_: select the ones you want to use, space bar selects them
[01:59] <matthias> rolando: you coult exec: dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[01:59] <tobias_> ahh thnx
[02:00] <matthias> then you are asked the default questions and a new xorg.conf is written
[02:00] <rolando> because i f*ucked up something and now when i try glxinfo my pc just freezes
[02:00] <stdin> rolando: use sudo before the command
[02:00] <matthias> oh yes sry: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[02:01] <stdin> matthias: and it's "xserver-xorg" not "xorg"
[02:01] <rolando> the sudo i knew thanx :)
[02:01] <rolando> but you see this is not automatic
[02:01] <jose__> hi all, one basic question... how cannot make gizmo start automaticly when i turn on kubuntu. Anyone could help?
[02:01] <rolando> i have to answer a lot of technical questions
[02:01] <tobias_> uhm and how do i make it stay like that ? when i press enter  and restart it it's the same it was before ... *stupid*
[02:02] <makuseru> where can i get ATI Radeon Drivers
[02:02] <rolando> what driver i want ati or radeon?
[02:02] <matthias> ok so it would be: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:02] <matthias> !ati
[02:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:02] <jose__> sorry, i meant "I", not "how" :;D
[02:02] <stdin> jose__: in Konqueror, go to "~/.kde/Autostart" and add a link to application there that points to gizmo
[02:02] <jose__> thanks stdin!
[02:03] <matthias> stdin: is there an Autostart folder for gnome?
[02:03] <stdin> matthias: no, but there is another method to do it
[02:03] <kkosmo> !games
[02:03] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:03] <kkosmo> lol
[02:03] <Xera> "The model number for your Radeon card is a 9500 pro or above" damn, so my radeon 9250 won't work? :(
[02:03] <tobias_> stdin ... how i make it stay like that (with the resolution) ... i can select the ones i want and press enter but it just stays the way it is
[02:03] <stdin> !autostart | matthias
[02:04] <ubotu> matthias: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:04] <stdin> matthias: I guess ubotu only shows the KDE way in here :P
[02:04] <Xera> !gnomeautostart
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomeautostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <Xera> >:
[02:04] <stdin> matthias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[02:05] <TurnTheOtherWay> STDIN. need, a little help
[02:05] <kkosmo> !skim
[02:05] <stdin> tobias_: did you restart the X server after ?
[02:05] <ctd_> Hello stdid , tobian
[02:05] <ubotu> skim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1216 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[02:05] <matthias> stdin: ok thx
[02:05] <tobias_> hmm i'll do so
[02:05] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: yes?
[02:05] <ctd_> Did not work ,
[02:05] <kkosmo> somone can tell me what i can do with skim
[02:05] <kkosmo> ?
[02:05] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: i installed kubuntu and grub has error 2 so no OS atg all, and no usage for comp
[02:05] <ctd_> in fact it got worse , only resolution it picked up was 1024x768
[02:06] <weedar> Touching the edges of my touchpad causes scrolling, how can I prevent this?
[02:06] <matthias> stdin i joined ubuntu. there ubotu shows the right ;-) thx same link as yours
[02:06] <Xera> weedar: it's supposed to do that xD
[02:06] <stdin> ctd_: if it's an intel chip, you may need the  915resolution package, I do
[02:06] <makuseru> are there drivers for ATI cards older than 8500?
[02:06] <tobias_> ah thank you a lo stdin :)
[02:06] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: no windows either. i think it may have deleted it though i dont know how that wouldve happened
[02:07] <ctd_> Tobian : Did you manage to update the resol. to 1440x900 ?
[02:07] <ctd_> Tobias !  Sorry
[02:07] <Xera> can someone help me setup my ati 9250? i get 1fps in opengl >:(
[02:07] <weedar> Xera: it is insanely annoying, causes the pointer to move when it shouldn't
[02:07] <tobias_> yes
[02:07] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: windows is probably still there, try reinstalling grub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:07] <ctd_> Do you have i915 driver or did you choose i810 ?
[02:08] <matthias> stdin: is there a way to get all ubotu cmds?
[02:08] <thomas_> servus
[02:08] <stdin> matthias: just search the website http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:08] <mildner> hello anybody here for help on dbv?
[02:08] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: terminal command is alt f2?
[02:08] <matthias> stdin: thx
[02:09] <tobias_> ctd are you talking to me ?
[02:09] <makuseru> are there drivers for ATI Radeon cards older than 8500?
[02:09] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: no, that's the run dialogue, Konsole (terminal) is in Kmenu -> System -> Konsile
[02:09] <ctd_> Tobias : yes ! sorry
[02:09] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: *Konsole
[02:09] <tobias_> cdt : i got a nvidia card ... i got no i810 driver afak
[02:10] <ctd_> Ok , thanks , let me try and hopefully some day I will be able to run this @ 1440x900
[02:10] <ctd_> Thanks for all your help stdin , tobia and Xera
[02:10] <ctd_> bye
[02:10] <Xera> bye
[02:10] <tobias_> bye
[02:11] <mildner> any help available on dbv?
[02:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: i have no file "stage1"
[02:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> error 15: file not found kinda thing
[02:12] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: can you reinstall again? and make sure to install grub on the MBR (Master Boot Record) of the disk
[02:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> how do you install it to mbr?
[02:13] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: It will be an option on the installer
[02:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: k ill try that
[02:15] <matthias> hi i need a package which is installed but i dont know were, i thought there is a toole like which but i didn't find it
[02:15] <Raffy> hi
[02:15] <matthias> i'm searching the path of: gnome-vfs-2.0
[02:15] <Raffy> kubuntu after the install give me the error 17
[02:16] <Raffy> cannot load aprtition
[02:16] <Raffy> partition*
[02:16] <stdin> matthias: if you know the package name, you can list all the files in it with "dpkg --listfiles PackageName"
[02:16] <Raffy> also the SATA HD (where i've installed linux) go every for first HD
[02:17] <Raffy> but the master HD is the IDE and in the boot men is the IDE first Hard Disk
[02:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: says GRUB will be installed to (hd0)
[02:17] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: yeah, that's right then
[02:18] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: i did that the same wy last time, got error 2 on boot
[02:18] <TurnTheOtherWay> no load
[02:18] <balint> stdin: can i change the names of partitons in linux, from hda1... to the letters in win?
[02:19] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: try installing grub to the partition then
[02:19] <stdin> balint: you mean mount them as win?
[02:19] <Xera> wtf, i can't get any programs to start, konqueror, amarok, kopete
[02:19] <Xera> i just get the bouncing icon on the cursor and that's it
[02:19] <balint> stdin: yes because the playlist files store them like D, C E...
[02:20] <Raffy> are u sure that linux work on SATA HD? :'(
[02:20] <Xera> Raffy: works fine here
[02:20] <Raffy> on my maxtor 250GB
[02:20] <Raffy> don't work
[02:21] <stdin> balint: if you edit the entry in /etc/fstab and change the mount point to /media/win (for example) then make the directory in /media, that will do it
[02:21] <Raffy> also don't work the maxtor...
[02:21] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: i would if i could see my cursor lol. ithink it was you suggested that i use a command... "komshell mouse" or something but the cmd isnt recognised
[02:21] <Zaggynl> This is odd, NeroLinux can burn at 16x, but k3b cannot :/
[02:21] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: kcmshell mouse
[02:22] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: once in config screen then what?
[02:23] <wolfwalker> WOW, I forgot how bad these options were in this script!
[02:23] <balint> stdin: so in fstab just rename them?
[02:24] <wolfwalker> Okay, I have a computer running Kubuntu, and I have a .deb file that is supposed to install Audacity music editor.......... so what do I do with the .deb file?
[02:24] <Gentix> how do i get the 3D stuff on my unichrome chip working???
[02:24] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: use the tab key to change to the "Cursor Theme" tab, and try changing the theme
[02:24] <stdin> balint: yeah
[02:24] <matthias> how do i set an enviroment var?
[02:24] <matthias> set $var=value?
[02:24] <stdin> wolfwalker: why don't you install the version in Adept ?
[02:25] <wolfwalker> Adept?
[02:25] <stdin> matthias: no, just do "var=value"
[02:25] <wolfwalker> I'm a linux newb, what are you talking about?
[02:25] <Zaggynl> wolfwalker, open it
[02:25] <stdin> !adept | wolfwalker
[02:25] <ubotu> wolfwalker: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:25] <wolfwalker> Oh goody
[02:25] <wolfwalker> Thanks, I'll try that
[02:25] <TurnTheOtherWay> youre a lucky newb mine doesnt work :p
[02:25] <wolfwalker> Save y'all a lot of typing if it's already in a wiki
[02:26] <balint> stdin:
[02:26] <balint> # /dev/hda5
[02:26] <balint> UUID=14C09736C0971D54 /media/hda5
[02:26] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: i try to change theme it closes window and does nthing.
[02:27] <balint> stdin: and where change? after # /dev/hda5? or     /media/hda5?
[02:27] <stdin> balint: you change part with /media/hda5 to /media/win (for example). then make that directory with "sudo mkdir /media/win"
[02:28] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: try restarting it, the install CD that is
[02:28] <balint> stdin: and what if i just rename /media/hda5 to /media/D      ?
[02:28] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: just restart kubuntu? as in go to the "turn off" screen and select restart?
[02:29] <stdin> balint: then just so what I said, but replace /media/win with /media/D
[02:29] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: yeah
[02:29] <balint> stdin: so just a simple rename right? :)
[02:30] <stdin> balint: yep :)
[02:30] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: doesnt the livecd thing not save changes?
[02:30] <Xera> http://www.clipmarks.com/clipmark/28280FB2-D4CE-4204-8F7D-45D3988622CD/ has anybody tried that?
[02:30] <balint> stdin: this wont affect the partiton right?
[02:30] <balint> stdin: so no problems in win
[02:30] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: you can restart the install after you reboot, but you should have courser then
[02:31] <stdin> balint: it won't touch the partition, just where it's mounted to in linux
[02:31] <balint> stdin: okay
[02:31] <TurnTheOtherWay> v nice. cept the bloody kubuntu cd wont reboot the comp by itself so i have to use power button ><
[02:32] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: sorry but I need to go for a while, need to run some errands, i'll be back later
[02:32] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: right lol
[02:32] <TurnTheOtherWay> bye
[02:32] <stdin> cya :)
[02:33] <TurnTheOtherWay> anyone else here know a lot about kubuntu?
[02:34] <TurnTheOtherWay> :O
[02:34] <TurnTheOtherWay> howd you do that wolf?
[02:34] <wolfwalker> Type /me jumps up and down
[02:35] <bubu1uk> :p
[02:35] <wolfwalker> So I opened Adept, but couldn't figure how to get it to even look at the .deb file. Then I right click on the .deb file and tell it to open with Adept.......... and it just sits there
[02:35] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol
[02:35] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdins gone so you may recieve less help
[02:36] <wolfwalker> Adept seems mostly concerned with going online, but it's not on the net
[02:36] <TurnTheOtherWay> DAMNIT
[02:36] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: u tryin just to install .deb package?
[02:36] <TurnTheOtherWay> my cursor is invisible again :(
[02:36] <wolfwalker> Yesh
[02:36] <wolfwalker> Specifically, Audacity music editor
[02:36] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[02:37] <wolfwalker> Eh?
[02:37] <wolfwalker> Whassat?
[02:37] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: or try sudo apt-get install audacity
[02:37] <wolfwalker> Where do I type this?
[02:37] <bubu1uk> dpkg is part of synaptic package manager.
[02:37] <wolfwalker> Ah
[02:37] <bubu1uk> konsole
[02:37] <wolfwalker> Yes TurnTheOtherWay, I already said that
[02:37] <wolfwalker> I am a nooblet
[02:38] <wolfwalker> I am the newest of the newbs
[02:38] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: dont' let it put u down. ;)
[02:38] <wolfwalker> Got it out of your system yet, or should we continue?
[02:38] <TurnTheOtherWay> but one witha working kubuntu :(
[02:38] <wolfwalker> So reinstall
[02:38] <wolfwalker> I bittorrented the latest, Efty Erst
[02:38] <TurnTheOtherWay> im trying but i have an invisible cursor which makes it hard
[02:38] <wolfwalker> You don't have the iso cd still?
[02:39] <TurnTheOtherWay> im using the iso
[02:39] <TurnTheOtherWay> well not on this
[02:39] <wolfwalker> Invisible curser, that's probably just a minor glitch. Reboot and see if it fixes it
[02:39] <wolfwalker> Anyway, I type that sudo stuff where?
[02:39] <balint> stdin: not working
[02:39] <TurnTheOtherWay> ive rebooted many times and got advice from stdin but it doesnt work :/
[02:40] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: konsole, command line.
[02:40] <bubu1uk> open konsole
[02:40] <balint> stdin: renamed hda5 to D but...  in linux its still hda5 and shows like nothing would be on the partition
[02:40] <TurnTheOtherWay> i have cunning plan: ill click blindly until i hit the grub link
[02:41] <TurnTheOtherWay> got it :)
[02:41] <balint> oh stdin is not here:(
[02:41] <TurnTheOtherWay> nope
[02:41] <bubu1uk> balint: what u tryin to do?
[02:41] <TurnTheOtherWay> anyone at all: if you dont install to (hd0) then where to?
[02:41] <balint> i want to rename the hda5 to D, like in win, cause my playlist files are absolute pathed, and dont work
[02:42] <bubu1uk> balint: u mean /media/hda5 to /media/D?
[02:42] <balint> yepp
[02:42] <bubu1uk> balint: u can rename that directory, then u'll have to setup /etc/fstab to point to /media/D instead /media/hda5
[02:43] <balint> yes i modified the fstab already
[02:43] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: can u tell me what's ur problem? came here later.
[02:43] <wolfwalker> No luck
[02:43] <bubu1uk> balint: did u remount?
[02:43] <balint> how can i do that? :)
[02:43] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: r u connected to internet?
[02:44] <wolfwalker> No. That's why I'm using a .deb file to install it
[02:44] <bubu1uk> balint: sudo umount /media/hda5
[02:44] <bubu1uk> balint: then sudo mount /media/D
[02:44] <balint> thx i try it out
[02:44] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: dpkg didnt help?
[02:44] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: grub fails on boot with error 2. so no startup, im trying to find out where to put it
[02:44] <wolfwalker> dpkg?
[02:45] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[02:45] <wolfwalker> Okay, I have Kubuntu running, I downloaded a .deb file of Audacity music editor, and I don't know what to do next.
[02:45] <wolfwalker> Oh, and I'm a total newb
[02:45] <balint> mount point /media/D does not exist
[02:45] <wolfwalker> So what do I do with the .deb file?
[02:45] <bubu1uk> balint: u have D directory created in /media?
[02:45] <wolfwalker> Do I hit a / before the sudo, or just type that straight?
[02:46] <balint> ups :) no :)
[02:46] <wolfwalker> And is package name the file name?
[02:46] <balint> that can only be done from konsole?
[02:47] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: type exactly this >> sudo dpkg -i /home/user/debianpackage.deb (or whereever u have package)
[02:47] <bubu1uk> balint: what?
[02:47] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: u should have grub in MBR so hd0
[02:47] <balint> i made the directory now, and mounted but nothing :(
[02:47] <balint> must reboot?
[02:48] <bubu1uk> balint: no
[02:48] <bubu1uk> balint: so u have /media/D now
[02:48] <balint> yes
[02:48] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: when i install it to hd0 it fails with error 2 when the comp boots.
[02:48] <bubu1uk> balint: check if there's line bout hda5 in fstab
[02:49] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: have u googled for grub error 2 what it it?
[02:49] <balint> no, nothing about hda5
[02:50] <TurnTheOtherWay> oh hell.
[02:50] <bubu1uk> http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[02:50] <bubu1uk> balint: sec.
[02:50] <TurnTheOtherWay> that is bad. error 2 appears to be "selected disk doesnt exist"
[02:50] <balint> bubulk: oh i got it!!!!
[02:51] <Xera> if i f*ck up X one more time i shall cry
[02:51] <Xera> >:
[02:51] <balint> bubu1uk: just had to unmount again
[02:51] <balint> bubu1uk: funny because it said its not mounted... then why unmount again? :S
[02:51] <LameBMX> !pastebin
[02:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:51] <balint> anyway now its fine
[02:51] <bubu1uk> balint: so works?
[02:52] <balint> yepp
[02:52] <bubu1uk> k then.
[02:52] <bubu1uk> ;)
[02:52] <balint> how can i remove the hda5 from media?
[02:52] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: yup, where is grub pointing to be /boot partition?
[02:52] <wolfwalker> The annoying newb has returned
[02:52] <bubu1uk> balint: sudo rm /media/hda5
[02:52] <wolfwalker> No luck
[02:53] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: what does that mean?
[02:53] <wolfwalker> I typed in just what you said in the command line
[02:53] <matthew_> !mount
[02:53] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:53] <matthew_> !iso
[02:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[02:53] <wolfwalker> Aparently sudo is pseudo and adept is only adept at ignoring me
[02:53] <bubu1uk> balint: u might do rmdir.
[02:54] <balint> oh man:( im so sad
[02:54] <balint> this didnt resolve my problem
[02:54] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: where in system u have that .deb package?
[02:54] <balint> cause the path is still media/D/...
[02:54] <wolfwalker> On the desktop
[02:54] <balint> i guess i cant mount D like the root folder right?
[02:54] <wolfwalker> I copied it from a flash drive and it's sitting on the desktop and I can't figure out what to do with it
[02:54] <bubu1uk> balint: dont understand
[02:55] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: in command line "pwd" command
[02:55] <bubu1uk> what it gives u
[02:55] <balint> bubu1uk: so in the playlist the path is like this: D:\folder\folder...music.mp3
[02:55] <bubu1uk> balint: u might need to change ownership
[02:55] <balint> ?
[02:55] <bubu1uk> balint: ah, now i get u.
[02:56] <balint> whats that?
[02:56] <bubu1uk> balint: nope u cant do anything. u'll have to change playlist file
[02:56] <bubu1uk> balint: :)
[02:56] <balint> wahahhhhhhhhhhh
[02:56] <bubu1uk> balint: linux doesnt deal with dir tree like win
[02:56] <balint> than maybe i make the changes back to hda5 :)
[02:56] <wolfwalker> It gives me nothing. The run command line dissapeared and nothing else happened
[02:58] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: what u have in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:58] <wolfwalker> Just for the record: All these commands are supposed to be entered by going to the main menu, Actions, Run Command, and enter the command there?
[02:58] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: nope
[02:58] <wolfwalker> ......
[02:58] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: go to menu>system>terminal (or konsole, whatever it gives u)
[02:59] <hak5fan> Hi again everybody... I've tested my memory using memtest86+ and no errors were found, I still get these strange reboots when trying to start kubuntu... I also get an error message saying something about can't read CTR while initializing i840
[03:00] <bubu1uk> balint: doenst really matter what u call it. its just for u to recognize. u can call it either /media/windows
[03:00] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: found that konsole?
[03:00] <dave> Hi, I'm an "intermediate" user (ie not quite newbie), and I would like to know if it is possible to change the properties of the system folders so that they are no longer hidden.
[03:01] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: menu.1st?
[03:01] <wolfwalker> Okie dokie!
[03:01] <wolfwalker> I finally found the command prompt!
[03:01] <TurnTheOtherWay> or lst?
[03:01] <TurnTheOtherWay> l1
[03:01] <bubu1uk> i think it's menu.lst not 1st
[03:01] <wolfwalker> So now, I have an audacity package on my desktop, a .deb file
[03:01] <TurnTheOtherWay> ah they look the same l and 1
[03:01] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: lol
[03:01] <wolfwalker> So now that I actually know where the command prompt is, and I have the file, what do I do?
[03:02] <TurnTheOtherWay> erm
[03:02] <hak5fan> Hi again everybody... I've tested my memory using memtest86+ and no errors were found, I still get these strange reboots when trying to start kubuntu... I also get an error message saying something about can't read CTR while initializing i840 what could cause these errors
[03:02] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: command cd /home/username/Desktop
[03:02] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: and then command ls
[03:02] <Xera> W000T 4975 frames in 5.0 seconds = 994.937 FPS
[03:02] <Xera> finally opengl is working
[03:02] <Xera> :D
[03:02] <bubu1uk> does it give u in output name of that package?
[03:03] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! i tried to open it with kate
[03:03] <wolfwalker> I have the name of that package, if that's what you mean. It's a deb file on my desktop.
[03:03] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: try nano
[03:03] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: go to that directory i told u. /home/user/Desktop
[03:03] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: its empty
[03:03] <TurnTheOtherWay> the file
[03:04] <balint> well bubu1uk i hate absolute paths from now on :)
[03:04] <wolfwalker> With "user" being my user name?
[03:04] <bubu1uk> balint: lol
[03:04] <dave> Hi, I'm an "intermediate" user (ie not quite newbie), and I would like to know if it is possible to change the properties of the system folders so that they are no longer hidden. Thanks, Dave
[03:04] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: yes, of course
[03:04] <wolfwalker> Toldja I was a newb
[03:04] <wolfwalker> Gotta go shower and get ready for church
[03:04] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[03:04] <wolfwalker> I shall return: You have Been Warned!
[03:04] <bubu1uk> dave: u might need to make them world visible
[03:05] <andreasw_weg> dave: yes delte /.hidden
[03:05] <balint> bubu1uk you would say the same if you would have about 60GB music, and the playlist wont work :)
[03:05] <andreasw_weg> dave: delete I mean ^
[03:05] <TurnTheOtherWay> balint: lmao nice
[03:05] <bubu1uk> balint: what u using to play music?
[03:05] <balint> bubu1uk on linux i use amarok
[03:05] <balint> xms sucks
[03:05] <balint> xmms
[03:05] <Xera> __FGLTexMgrCreateObject: __FGLTexMgrSHMmalloc failed!!!
[03:05] <Xera> fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrCreateObject failed!!
[03:05] <Xera> :?
[03:05] <joshy> anyone here has experiences with xen
[03:06] <bubu1uk> balint: u can setup amaroks configuration to automaticly search for ur music folders.
[03:06] <hak5fan> Does anyone know why my machine reboots when I try to boot into kubuntu.. It doesn't always happen, but sometimes.... I've tested my memory with mtest86+ no errors but I'm getting this error. Can't read CTR while initializing i840
[03:06] <balint> bubu1uk did you see xmms's file browsing design? :D
[03:06] <balint> bubu1uk lik win 3.11 :)
[03:06] <bubu1uk> balint: yes,
[03:06] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol
[03:06] <balint> terrible :)
[03:07] <TurnTheOtherWay> who desnt like 3.11?
[03:07] <Xera> XD?
[03:07] <dave> andreas, I'm looking at /usr (in konqueror), and there is no sign of a ./hidden file
[03:07] <andreasw_weg> dave: it is in /
[03:07] <hak5fan> I can't think of any way to fix my problem
[03:07] <bubu1uk> balint: in amarok go to settings, configure amarok
[03:08] <bubu1uk> dave: if u type /usr in address bar in konqueror, will it get u there?
[03:08] <dave> found it andreas, cheers
[03:08] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk menu.lst is empty what now lol?
[03:08] <balint> bubu1uk ok, im on it :) but got a weard problem :D a hda5 folder appeaerd on my desktop :) and cant delete it, and in konqueror the folder is not shown :)
[03:08] <andreasw> dave: In the future release of kubuntu the system directories will no longer be hidden by default
[03:08] <andreasw> dave: I don't know who had the ideo with the .hidden file
[03:09] <nesttle> buenas
[03:09] <nesttle> hi all
[03:09] <dave> well it's probably okay for some less well used folders
[03:09] <hak5fan> nesttle: hi
[03:09] <nesttle> anyone can help me?
[03:09] <nesttle> i'm spanish
[03:09] <TurnTheOtherWay> anyone know the ubot link?
[03:09] <nesttle> and I installed kubuntu 6.10 edgy
[03:09] <revolution27> Anyone? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337975
[03:09] <andreasw> dave: It is just cunfusing people who had worked with other Linux distrubitions before and are looking for the system folders in konqueror
[03:10] <hak5fan> nesttle: I speak some spanish but I'm not very good at it
[03:10] <nesttle> no problem :P
[03:10] <nesttle> i have a problem with Beryl (and emerald)
[03:10] <TurnTheOtherWay> nesttle: #kubuntu-es
[03:10] <hak5fan> nesttle: and I don't know much about Linux
[03:10] <Ash-Fox> Argh, this is annoying. I make a preinst script for my .deb package, a template file.. and for some reason, the template isn't imported into debconf for unknown reasons so I get lovely stupid errors
[03:10] <nesttle> and I think that my XGL don't run properly
[03:10] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: u might need to reinstall grub or manually edit that menu.lst
[03:10] <sinbad33> how does  one defrag in Kubuntu  ??
[03:11] <nesttle> thanks for the channel :P
[03:11] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: what can be pain in *** if u dont know much bout it.
[03:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> nesttle: np
[03:11] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, reiserfs defrags it self, you don't need to defrag it.
[03:11] <dave> andreas: I tried opening konqueror in su mode, but I still dont seem to have permission to delet the file, do I need to do it from terminal
[03:12] <andreasw> dave: I did it from the terminal. Never tried to delete it with Konqueror
[03:12] <bubu1uk> balint: in console check in /home/user/Desktop if u got that link there. then just remove it.
[03:12] <Ash-Fox> dave, close all konqueror windows, alt + f2 'kdesu konqueror'
[03:12] <sinbad33> Ash, oh wow ... s w e e t
[03:12] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: ill reinstall kubuntu and try to use SGD but ty for help
[03:12] <balint> ok
[03:12] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: np
[03:13] <hak5fan> @anyone if anyone could come up with a solution to this problem I would be very greatful: why does my machine sometimes restart when trying to boot kubuntu
[03:13] <hak5fan> ?
[03:13] <sinbad33> Ash, why doesnt MS use the same defrag technique as reiserfs ? any idea ?
[03:13] <bubu1uk> balint: did u manage to setup those folders for collection in amarok?
[03:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> huzzah now im using all my usb ports!
[03:13] <bubu1uk> sinbad33: cuz it's MS?
[03:13] <balint> ? what? :)
[03:13] <bubu1uk> sinbad33: lol
[03:14] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, because Microsoft uses diskkeeper internally.
[03:14] <bubu1uk> balint: u wanted to create playlist in amarok.
[03:14] <balint> bubu1uk yes im browsing amarok settings right now
[03:14] <joshy> _XEN_??
[03:14] <bubu1uk> balint: go to collection
[03:15] <dave> hmm, I opened terrminal  changed to su, and still do not have permission to delete the .hidden file (all konqueror windows are closed
[03:15] <bubu1uk> balint: option on left with 3 cd icon
[03:15] <balint> goti t:)
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> dave, well, that wasn't my instructions.
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> dave, so good luck with that.
[03:15] <sinbad33> is there some kind of advantage to using internal diskkeeper i wonder ?
[03:16] <balint> and just select th folders i want to scan right?
[03:16] <bubu1uk> balint: amarok will rescan ur collection of files, then u can create playlist easily of random 50 or just choose artist u want to play
[03:16] <andreasw> dave: sudo rm /.hidden
[03:16] <bubu1uk> balint: right
[03:16] <balint> just like good ol' winamp mlibrary :)
[03:16] <andreasw> dave: that has to work even if you have open konqueror windows
[03:16] <bubu1uk> balint: kinda. ;)
[03:16] <sinbad33> i cant believe how much im learning now that im using kubuntu
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, linux filesystems tend to be faster under benchmarks than NTFS.. Diskkeeper operates as a service application while poking at native apis under windows... Under Linux, any defragmentation is usually implemented in the driver itself...
[03:17] <milaks> Can someone please tell me honestly :) Which one do you think is faster: Gnome or KDE?
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> I think KDE is faster.
[03:17] <dave> thanks andreas that worked, what's the difference between changing to su and entering the command, ansd doing sudo?
[03:17] <bubu1uk> milaks: xfce4 :p
[03:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> gnomes sposed tbe faster isnt it?
[03:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol yep xfce!
[03:17] <andreasw> dave: su won't work under (k)ubuntu
[03:17] <bubu1uk> Ash-Fox: i thought gnome
[03:18] <Ash-Fox> Ever tried running things konqueror under xfce? blah..
[03:18] <andreasw> dave: because the root user has no usefull password under ubuntu
[03:18] <balint> bubu1uk i like that random 50, sounds fine :)
[03:18] <Ash-Fox> *things like
[03:18] <dave> okay andreas, why is that?
[03:18] <bubu1uk> Ash-Fox: u tryin to run kde app under diff desktop, of course then.
[03:18] <dave> cheers andreas
[03:18] <Ash-Fox> TurnTheOtherWay, pentium 4, 1.8ghz, 1gb ram, it's about six or five years old now
[03:18] <andreasw> dave: just use sudo instead of su and if you need a root console than use sudo -s
[03:18] <Ash-Fox> bubu1uk, firefox is also slower for me under xfce4 :P
[03:19] <balint> bubu1uk and when its going to start the scan?
[03:19] <sinbad33> Ash, older versions of firefox are WAY faster then newer versions, would u happen to know the oldest firefox version one can use with kubuntu or linux ?
[03:19] <andreasw> I don't know any program for ext3 which shows me the exact framgantation level
[03:19] <bubu1uk> balint: menu tools>>rescan collection
[03:19] <TurnTheOtherWay> ahha
[03:19] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, you could pretty much run any of the binary packages off mozilla.org.. so all of them?
[03:19] <TurnTheOtherWay> is the ubuntu install the same as the kubuntu?
[03:19] <balint> bubu1uk and whats that context?
[03:19] <Xera|> TurnTheOtherWay: pretty much yes
[03:20] <dave> Thanks andreas, I tend to use sudo anyway, but this one time I didn't ;-)
[03:20] <TurnTheOtherWay> damn. i was thinking converting to gnome might help me, but i guess not.
[03:20] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, although to be honest, I find 2.0 faster than 1.5
[03:20] <sinbad33> Ash, oh really! does mozilla.org bother to mention that fact on their site?
[03:20] <andreasw> so how do all know that it doesn't framents
[03:20] <bubu1uk> balint: what context?
[03:20] <balint> bubu1uk in amarok
[03:20] <sinbad33> Ash, well im talking about version 0.91 etc
[03:20] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33. you can find the binary packages on ftp.mozilla.org
[03:20] <balint> left panel, above collection
[03:21] <hak5fan> Hi again everybody... I've tested my memory using memtest86+ and no errors were found, I still get these strange reboots when trying to start kubuntu... I also get an error message saying something about can't read CTR while initializing i840 .... It must be someone who can answer this question...
[03:21] <sinbad33> Ash, sweeet  thx
[03:21] <Ash-Fox> You will need to extract them somewhere, and run it from there. Since you aren't going to get .deb packages from there.
[03:21] <bubu1uk> balint: ah right. it just tells u info bout music. how many times it played, popularity etc. u can also find lyrics there.
[03:21] <bubu1uk> balint: play some music and u'll see
[03:21] <balint> bubu1uk i like amarok :D
[03:21] <balint> bubu1uk for how long are u using linux?
[03:22] <bubu1uk> bout year, or 2
[03:22] <bubu1uk> but not allways.
[03:22] <balint> and before on win u used winamp?
[03:22] <Xera|> they should make linamp
[03:22] <Xera|> >:
[03:22] <balint> :D
[03:22] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> Xera, install xmms
[03:22] <bubu1uk> winapm, wmp, anything. i like to try new things.
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> Xera, xmms is a winamp clone
[03:23] <Xera|> Ash-Fox: i know, but it sucks ass
[03:23] <balint> i think amarok is good enough, amarok is liamp
[03:23] <sinbad33> Ash, have u ever used Epiphany browser with kubuntu ?
[03:23] <Ash-Fox> Xera, if you want something like iTunes, but more features and better, try amarok
[03:23] <Xera|> i mean, the people who made winamp should make linamp
[03:23] <bubu1uk> btw, i like to use audacious as well.
[03:23] <balint> Xera! youre right!! xmms is a big sh*t
[03:23] <Xera|> Ash-Fox: i use amarok XD
[03:23] <Xera|> amaroK pwns
[03:23] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, nope
[03:23] <TurnTheOtherWay> so many ks....
[03:23] <makuseru> what is one smaller resolution than 1024x768
[03:24] <balint> bubu1uk and why dont u alwys use linux?
[03:24] <Ash-Fox> Amarok annoys me with the lack of mod file support.
[03:24] <balint> usually 800*600 , but there are stupid reoslutions
[03:24] <makuseru> i mean bigger then
[03:24] <makuseru> ya im not lookin for them odd weird resolutions
[03:24] <makuseru> just standard one
[03:24] <makuseru> s
[03:24] <bubu1uk> balint: well. had problems with flash before. bout year ago
[03:24] <sinbad33> Ash, what drive image software do u recommend with kubuntu ?
[03:25] <balint> makuseru: usually 1280*960 on CRT and 1280*1024 on LCD (there are mid resolutions between this, but those are not very useful)
[03:25] <bubu1uk> and needed better browser support for school
[03:25] <TurnTheOtherWay> wtf?
[03:25] <bubu1uk> cuz everything was online
[03:25] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, what?
[03:25] <balint> bubu1uk i mean u use windows too every day?
[03:25] <TurnTheOtherWay> in win here i just randomly had "run a dll as an app has had to close"
[03:25] <bubu1uk> balint: not really now.
[03:25] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, what do you mean by 'drive image software'?
[03:25] <bubu1uk> have linux on all machines now.
[03:25] <bubu1uk> either, laptop is dual in case i need it.
[03:26] <TurnTheOtherWay> installing kubuntu :)
[03:26] <sinbad33> i want to make my own custom kubuntu OS image so i can do OS reinstalls fast
[03:26] <balint> bubu1uk: i like linux but lots of programs are not ported to linux (i understand the companies)
[03:26] <balint> bubu1uk for ex. dreamweaver
[03:26] <TurnTheOtherWay> hardly any games for lin
[03:26] <TurnTheOtherWay> cept trem :)
[03:26] <bubu1uk> balint: well, u have good apps in linux for web dev too. but not dreamweaver
[03:26] <sinbad33> Ash, i just want to clone my OS partition
[03:27] <TurnTheOtherWay> argh my iso wont burn
[03:27] <balint> bubu1uk are there as good ase dw?
[03:27] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: good support for games is with cedega or wine now.
[03:27] <blekos> which prog is best for cd ripping 2 mp3?
[03:27] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, if you have norton ghost.. You can use that. I use my own homemade scripts and a program called 'dd'. But I don't think that would be a easy solution for you.
[03:27] <balint> bubu1uk i just need one wich has got split view and has that pop-up code library
[03:27] <bubu1uk> balint: dependes. not that good gui maybe. if u prefer to code, better linux then.
[03:28] <TurnTheOtherWay> whatre cedega n wine bubu1uk?
[03:28] <Ash-Fox> blekos, something called k3b if you want something graphical
[03:28] <bubu1uk> !wine
[03:28] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:28] <balint> Turn: theyre are win emulators
[03:28] <bubu1uk> !cedega
[03:28] <MementoMori> hi all
[03:28] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:28] <sinbad33> homemade scripts? would there be any way i could get a copy of some of those scripts, if u think it will make it easier ?
[03:28] <TurnTheOtherWay> hurrah! ty
[03:28] <Ash-Fox> bubu1uk, uh, I'm sorry. Windows has the better IDEs and and debugging tools currently...
[03:28] <balint> Cedega is for games, i will install it today :D ! wine is fro apps
[03:28] <sinbad33> oops
[03:28] <sinbad33> Ash, homemade scripts? would there be any way i could get a copy of some of those scripts, if u think it will make it easier ?
[03:28] <TurnTheOtherWay> i have hl2 :)
[03:29] <TurnTheOtherWay> but you have to buy cedega :(
[03:29] <Ash-Fox> bubu1uk, on kdevelop, monodevelop and so on, you aren't capable of modifying a program's code in real time while it's running. You can in visual studio on windows.
[03:29] <sinbad33> Ash, i understand that dd is a bit difficult for beginners, yes
[03:29] <blekos> i have k3b, i dint know it can convert audio cds 2 mp3 though
[03:29] <sinbad33> Ash, but i got the dd manual now am reading it thru
[03:29] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, my scripts work on the concept of network booting via dhcp rather than CD images...
[03:30] <balint> the best convert tool for linux i think is switch
[03:30] <sinbad33> Ash, oh u mean remote booting
[03:30] <Ash-Fox> sinbad33, you'd need to setup sftp and xinetd with my system.. It's just complex :P
[03:30] <sinbad33> wow
[03:30] <TurnTheOtherWay> !switch
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about switch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <sinbad33> Ash, yes i think i agree w u :)
[03:31] <Ash-Fox> (Network booting on my network -- you load a small linux kernel and it presents you with a list of OS images to load on your system -- not easy todo the initial setup :P)
[03:31] <balint> OMG amarok has got wikipedia info about th artists :D
[03:31] <sinbad33> gosh i think im getting cerebral 'whiplash' from all the new stuff im learning since using kubuntu
[03:31] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk, if i cant boot linux once reinstalled, what should i do?
[03:32] <Ash-Fox> !whiptail
[03:32] <ubotu> whiptail: Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is important. Version 0.52.2-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:32] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: dependes why it doesnt want to boot
[03:32] <TurnTheOtherWay> install complete... just gotta wait for load
[03:33] <cschoen> hallo
[03:33] <Ash-Fox> !de
[03:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:35] <balint> I have a stupid question: can i run MSN messenger on linux? with wine?
[03:35] <balint> or can i run winamp?
[03:35] <balint> just want to know
[03:36] <bubu1uk> balint: use amsn for msn messenger
[03:36] <TurnTheOtherWay> clonified :)
[03:36] <balint> bubu1uk: yes yes, but i just want to know if its possible to run it
[03:36] <TurnTheOtherWay> I HATE GRUB.
[03:36] <bubu1uk> dunno, never tried it.
[03:36] <TurnTheOtherWay> i got error 2 again
[03:37] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: u have something in menu.lst now?
[03:37] <TurnTheOtherWay> i dont think it can see the drive...
[03:37] <TurnTheOtherWay> no
[03:37] <TurnTheOtherWay> but how do i get anything in?
[03:38] <weedar> Why is it impossible to turn off tap-to-click on ALPS touchpad?
[03:38] <TurnTheOtherWay> !menu.lst
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <revolution27> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337975
[03:39] <bubu1uk> !grub
[03:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:39] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: try those
[03:39] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk ive seen those it doesnt help
[03:40] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: do you know what to type in menu.lst?
[03:40] <TurnTheOtherWay> in nano
[03:40] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: kinda know. didn't play with it much tho.
[03:40] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: wait
[03:42] <TurnTheOtherWay> can i ask someone to paste me the contents of their /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[03:43] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: just doin it
[03:43] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: thx
[03:43] <bubu1uk> !paste
[03:43] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:44] <bubu1uk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1555
[03:46] <TurnTheOtherWay> title		Ubuntu, memtest86+
[03:46] <TurnTheOtherWay> root		(hd0,1)
[03:46] <TurnTheOtherWay> kernel		/boot/memtest86+.bin
[03:46] <TurnTheOtherWay> quiet
[03:46] <TurnTheOtherWay> boot
[03:46] <TurnTheOtherWay> can i just replace ubuntu with kubuntu there?
[03:46] <balint> well amarok is good, but it's media library is not as good as the ml of mi little winamp :)
[03:47] <bubu1uk> balint: u just might need to get used to it. it's different but good. i like it.
[03:47] <TurnTheOtherWay> oh hell i might have to type thqt up aswell
[03:47] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: yes, u can. it doesnt really matter what title is. it will show that title in menu when u boot
[03:48] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: also u have linux on primary hdd?
[03:48] <TurnTheOtherWay> i cant do that id have to type it all up... damnit. hdd?
[03:48] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: harddisk.
[03:49] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: what u mean u cant do that?
[03:49] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol i cant copy the menu.lst in im on a laptop kubuntus on the desktop id have to type up the file :/
[03:49] <TurnTheOtherWay> also, i only have one hdd and both lin and win are on it
[03:50] <TurnTheOtherWay> i assume its primary
[03:50] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: then that config should be quiet allright for u.
[03:50] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: also u dont have to retype all. nothing with #, that's only comment
[03:50] <bubu1uk> proper menu.lst has only few lines.
[03:51] <TurnTheOtherWay> isee
[03:52] <bubu1uk> i'll give u grub from my fedora, it has less lines. although u'll have to change some things there then.
[03:52] <TurnTheOtherWay> what about with multiple #s?
[03:52] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: same
[03:52] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: it's just comment
[03:52] <TurnTheOtherWay> k thx ill get typing lol
[03:52] <Jucato> usually, menu.lst's that have very very few lines use something like gfxmenu (notably MEPIS or SUSE.. not sure about Fedora Core)
[03:53] <makuseru> does anyone know how to get bigger resolution with an ATI Radeon 7000?
[03:53] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558/
[03:54] <TurnTheOtherWay> bubu1uk: it says menu.lst is a new file: should it already be there? and if i type it up and save it should it install with kubuntu?
[03:55] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:55] <TurnTheOtherWay> im in that it says its a new file
[03:56] <bubu1uk> ok, then. might be. did u have one before?
[03:57] <Davidoff> how can i add soemthing to my startup configuration ?
[04:00] <TurnTheOtherWay> no
[04:00] <TurnTheOtherWay> never had one
[04:00] <TurnTheOtherWay> will it install with kubuntu?
[04:01] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: then it has to create one. and yes, it should be there when u install it. dunno what happened
[04:01] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: btw, if u can't boot, how do u get to system?
[04:02] <TurnTheOtherWay> get to system?
[04:02] <bubu1uk> well. u'r using liveCD or what?
[04:02] <TurnTheOtherWay> yeah live
[04:02] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:03] <bubu1uk> ehm. u'll hav eto go to hdd not do it on live cd.
[04:03] <bubu1uk> got to go now. Jucato should be able to help u.
[04:03] <bubu1uk> will be back later. probalby in 3 hours.
[04:04] <TurnTheOtherWay> ahhell
[04:04] <TurnTheOtherWay> gbye then
[04:04] <TurnTheOtherWay> one thing!!!
[04:04] <TurnTheOtherWay> ???
[04:04] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: come back later, i'll be here.
[04:04] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay:what?
[04:04] <TurnTheOtherWay> how to get to hdd?
[04:04] <TurnTheOtherWay> if it wont boot?
[04:04] <balint> with krdc can i connect to win desktops?
[04:04] <balint> or only to other kubuntus?
[04:05] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay:u might need to mount  it.
[04:05] <Davidoff> where is the file that i can add things to my startup configuration ?
[04:05] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: not sure
[04:05] <TurnTheOtherWay> how????
[04:05] <makuseru> does anyone know how to get bigger resolution with an ATI Radeon 7000?
[04:05] <TurnTheOtherWay> !mount
[04:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:05] <balint> Davidoff: good question i want to know that too
[04:05] <bubu1uk> TurnTheOtherWay: check in /mnt and /media if u have something that could be hdd
[04:06] <balint> Davidoff you mean like msconfig right?
[04:06] <TurnTheOtherWay> k
[04:06] <TurnTheOtherWay> ill try
[04:06] <bubu1uk> bye now.
[04:06] <TurnTheOtherWay> might end up trying to reinstall win :/
[04:06] <Davidoff> i need to have this line (an export PATH...) run everytime i login
[04:06] <TurnTheOtherWay> gbye
[04:06] <TurnTheOtherWay> and thankyou
[04:09] <jigoro> ubuntu  bello!
[04:09] <TurnTheOtherWay> what country?
[04:09] <Davidoff> i wish i could remember what the file is called balint !
[04:12] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: what went wrong?
[04:12] <TurnTheOtherWay> tried to install kubuntu but im a noob and grub didnt work
[04:12] <TurnTheOtherWay> so no boot
[04:13] <makuseru> !sound
[04:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:13] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: hmm do you have two hds?
[04:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> nope just 1 and its raid aswell
[04:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> stripe
[04:13] <andreasw> ok with raids I am out, never had one so no experience at all
[04:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol
[04:14] <swami> someone tell me why i have to press a key for a second before it cames out?
[04:14] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: did you already try to boot from a live cd and than reinstall grub?
[04:14] <andreasw> swami: every key or only some?
[04:14] <andreasw> ^^
[04:14] <swami>  every
[04:14] <andreasw> I had to type it 4 times
[04:14] <andreasw> ah k
[04:15] <andreasw> hmm strange
[04:15] <andreasw> do you have heavy load at the moment?
[04:15] <swami> nop
[04:15] <TurnTheOtherWay> i can boot from live but not from hdd and its just grub that wont work everything else is fine... but i have no way to get SGD to the comp
[04:16] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: Like I said but with a liveCD than chroot to your ubuntu system and run grup-install again
[04:16] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: or maybe check the config file beforce whether everything is fine in there
[04:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> how do i chroot?
[04:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> what do i change to?
[04:18] <Davidoff> can anyone tell me how to run a command automatically when i login ???
[04:18] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: Mount your root filesystem to any mount point
[04:19] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: than mount the proc filesystem
[04:19] <andreasw> mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
[04:19] <makuseru> can someone help me get sound in edgy?
[04:19] <andreasw> I took it from the gentoo manual ^^
[04:19] <andreasw> replace gentoo with your mountpoint than
[04:19] <danny> hello can anyone help me how to transfer my home directory from an old hard drive to a new kubuntu installation in a new hard drive?
[04:19] <andreasw> chroot /yourmntpnt /bin/bash
[04:20] <andreasw> than you are in the installed ubuntu system
[04:20] <andreasw> and can run grub-install for example
[04:20] <TurnTheOtherWay> sry im too much of a noob to take any of this in anymore.... im trying to work windows
[04:20] <makuseru> can someone help me get sound in edgy?
[04:21] <danny> AMAROK ROCKS!
[04:21] <andreasw> TurnTheOtherWay: well thats the problem with linux some things don't work very well ^^
[04:22] <danny> hello andreasw can you help me?
[04:22] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol yes
[04:23] <TurnTheOtherWay> formatting my drive now
[04:23] <larson9999> where is the 'add-user' gui in edgy?
[04:23] <andreasw> andreasw: well the best thing is to copy stuff with tar
[04:23] <andreasw> arg
[04:23] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol
[04:23] <makuseru> system settings user administration
[04:23] <andreasw> @dave ^^
[04:23] <zchydem> Davidoff: add the command that you want to run to your ~/.bashrc file
[04:23] <andreasw> danny: sorry I mean you hehe
[04:24] <TurnTheOtherWay> i think ill wait a while before trying linux again
[04:24] <danny> ehehe
[04:24] <TurnTheOtherWay> :/
[04:24] <danny> andreasw: hello can anyone help me how to transfer my home directory from an old hard drive to a new kubuntu installation in a new hard drive?
[04:24] <andreasw> danny: login as root than rename your home to home.old or something
[04:24] <andreasw> danny: than create a new home directiory and go in there
[04:24] <danny> ok just a sec
[04:25] <TurnTheOtherWay> i hope formatting the drive will remove grub cos if not im doomed
[04:25] <andreasw> danny: well you can't do that while you are logged in here
[04:25] <danny> oh
[04:25] <TurnTheOtherWay> is there an option not to use grub?
[04:25] <danny> :)
[04:25] <andreasw> danny: you have to do it in console with noone else logged in
[04:25] <larson9999> makuseru, yeah, that's not there.  seems i remember there being a problem with that but forgot what it was
[04:25] <danny> andreasw: ok fire away
[04:25] <zchydem> does anyone know how much ipv6 slows down internet connection?
[04:26] <Davidoff> thanks zchydem
[04:26] <Davidoff> will test :D
[04:26] <makuseru> can someone help me get sound in edgy?
[04:27] <fdoving> !sound | makuseru
[04:27] <ubotu> makuseru: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:27] <andreasw> danny: Well i have here a nice tutorial but it's in german ^^
[04:27] <andreasw> danny: tar -cSp --numeric-owner --atime-preserve -f - . | ( cd /home && tar -xSpv --atime-preserve -f - )
[04:27] <andreasw> change to the old home (your saved one)
[04:27] <danny> ok
[04:27] <andreasw> and than that command should copy everything to the home directory
[04:28] <danny> ok is there anything else that i need to do after that?
[04:29] <andreasw> no after that everything should be fine than
[04:29] <andreasw> but it would be easier to move your home
[04:29] <andreasw> is the old one on the same hd?
[04:30] <danny> nope
[04:30] <andreasw> but it's from a ubuntu linux?
[04:30] <andreasw> or from some other linux distribution
[04:30] <andreasw> ?
[04:30] <danny> my old home is on an old hdd with kubuntu 6.06
[04:30] <andreasw> ah k
[04:30] <earl_> hey guys. i have a 60GB hard drive, and i just noticed that I placed the swap partition at the very end of this hard drive. how bad did i fail?
[04:31] <danny> i just installed a new hdd with kubuntu 6.06
[04:31] <andreasw> ah k
[04:31] <danny> andreasw: but then when i tried to copy the home directory all sorts of errors appeared when trying to run some programs
[04:31] <andreasw> danny: ok than the command is the right thing
[04:31] <danny> ok i will try now
[04:32] <mineur> I'm not sure, but I think the location of your swap partition doesn't matter.... maybe you'll have less performance.... but I don't think that your performance is determined by your swap nowadays... I don't even have a swap partition
[04:32] <danny> thanks andreasw
[04:32] <danny> brb
[04:32] <earl_> well i only have 768 mb of ram
[04:32] <earl_> and i have lots of jittery performance
[04:32] <mineur> I have 512 ram :)
[04:33] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound in edgy?
[04:33] <earl_> like the type of thing i used to get in WoW a lot when i ran 256mb >,<
[04:33] <earl_> well, mineur, im also running Beryl and Amarok, not sure if you are too =)
[04:33] <mineur> yep I am :)
[04:33] <earl_> bah
[04:33] <mineur> amarok and beryl.... the reasons why I use linux lol
[04:33] <earl_> ditto ^_^
[04:33] <j0b> hello
[04:34] <earl_> but im pretty convinced my mistake has caused adverse performance
[04:34] <j0b> i have a question for everydody
[04:34] <earl_> things freeze up for a split second when i open up a menu, or scroll up/down a webpage
[04:34] <mineur> well qtparted might be a solution? not sure if it'll manage to move the whole wwap tho
[04:34] <j0b> do you know how to launch beryl-manager at the start
[04:34] <j0b> ??
[04:34] <earl_> i mean i also am only running a 1.6ghz processor, but i didnt think that would be a problem
[04:35] <mineur> nah I'm on a laptop 1,5 GHz, intel graphical card... crappy, but it runs smoothly
[04:35] <Zamber> http://stuff.zamber.net/beryl.html - mine beryl screenshots ;)
[04:35] <mineur> j0b: just start beryl-manager
[04:35] <earl_> yeah i didnt think the cpu was a problem
[04:36] <earl_> when i run beryl-benchmark it gives me great framerates
[04:36] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound in edgy?
[04:36] <earl_> even through the choppy things i'm reporting
[04:36] <earl_> qtparted doesn't seem to be a program on my computer, should i apt-get install it?
[04:36] <makuseru> earl_: what graphics card do you have
[04:36] <earl_> radeon 9600
[04:36] <earl_> pro
[04:36] <makuseru> how many fps
[04:37] <mineur> earl_: yep.. install it :)
[04:37] <earl_> let me fire up the benchmark
[04:37] <earl_> okay as i sit here talking to you guys it reports 140 fps
[04:37] <Zamber> earl_ I have 9200 and it works smooth too ;)
[04:37] <makuseru> danm
[04:37] <j0b> mineur > i know that but i want to launch this automatically
[04:38] <makuseru> mineur: how about you? how many fps
[04:38] <earl_> i drag the window around in wobbliness and it goes down to about 60, but still very good
[04:38] <Zamber> about 60-80
[04:38] <makuseru> i have a 7000 and it works really well
[04:38] <earl_> cube mode gets me about 80fps
[04:38] <Zamber> 40 in critical moments
[04:38] <mineur> damn I want this schoolyear to be over soon....I have a radeon 9600 in my dekstop, but I'm stuck to windows for my master thesis
[04:38] <Zamber> when using heavyweight stuff
[04:38] <makuseru> mineur: how about you? how many fps
[04:38] <earl_> actually i have a weird problem with beryl where it starts up on booting into kde,
[04:38] <mineur> as I sit here and type ..... 40 fps, intel graphical crap :d
[04:39] <earl_> but i dont get window decorations
[04:39] <earl_> until i type beryl-manager
[04:39] <mineur> j0b: you use aiglx?
[04:39] <Zamber> earl_ its normal
[04:39] <makuseru> mineur: what intel?
[04:39] <j0b> mineur > yep
[04:39] <makuseru> 945?
[04:39] <earl_> bah
[04:39] <earl_> no way to fix that then? aside from waiting for an update
[04:39] <j0b> makeseru > i use beryl with the same graphic card
[04:40] <makuseru> a 7000?
[04:40] <ohyesyoucan11> The other day I was in here someone helped me a lot by telling me how to type passwords on my machine (in Kate)... obviously I want to turn auto back up off and my internet off... but he told me one last thing I could do.  I forget :(
[04:40] <j0b> > an intel 945
[04:40] <mineur> of course earl_ just let it fire up beryl-manager automatically.. it's on the wiki from beryl how to do that
[04:40] <makuseru> i don t use one
[04:40] <makuseru> i was asking minerur what intel he used
[04:40] <earl_> i see
[04:40] <makuseru> uses*
[04:40] <earl_> i'll take a look at that later then
[04:40] <mineur> hang on.. I'm doubting myself now lol
[04:41] <Zamber> re
[04:41] <earl_> now mineur - this qtparted, will i be able to move partitions around without damaging data? i also have a 40gb FAT32 partition, which i'd like to keep untouched...
[04:41] <earl_> or at the very least, intact
[04:41] <Zamber> earl_ did you added the sh script to the kde autostart?
[04:41] <earl_> nope, i didn't do that
[04:41] <Zamber> it rund beryl-manager on boot if you're using xgl
[04:41] <mineur> well that's the idea of qtparted................ but then again... I'm not giving garantees :)
[04:41] <Zamber> google for it
[04:41] <earl_> im using aiglx
[04:42] <mineur> intel 855GME
[04:42] <root_> hello..can any one please tell me how to install anjuta IDE on kubuntu
[04:42] <makuseru> ha, i just got off of an 845g
[04:42] <Dr_willis> !find anjuta
[04:42] <makuseru> whats your ram/processor
[04:42] <ubotu> Found: anjuta, anjuta-common, anjuta-dev
[04:42] <mineur> 512 MB
[04:42] <Dr_willis> !info anjuta
[04:42] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[04:42] <mineur> 1.5 GHz
[04:42] <makuseru> ha
[04:42] <Dr_willis> root_,  enable the universe repository  and sudo apt-get install anjuta
[04:43] <root_> k
[04:43] <Dr_willis> universe is enabled by default or not? i forget.
[04:43] <makuseru> i had 2.2ghz, 768mb, 845G and i could only get 25
[04:43] <root_> but i got a problem
[04:43] <root_> i'll just show u that in a minute
[04:44] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound in edgy?
[04:44] <Dr_willis> You got lots of problems :) ircing as root is not a good thing to do either. Heh
[04:44] <mineur> makuseru: might also be a combination of effects... some combinations are really slow on some graphical cards.. a matter of trying out
[04:44] <mineur> what sound card do you have?
[04:45] <makuseru> ummm, lemme check
[04:45] <root_> ya.. i guess so..but i installed it for first time yesterday
[04:45] <root_> i get the following error          : "No package 'glib-2.0' found ...
[04:46] <root_> error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.8.0) were not me
[04:46] <Dr_willis> have you updated the system yet? with 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[04:46] <makuseru> mineur: intel ich5
[04:46] <earl_> hey so when i ran qtparted i got this message
[04:47] <earl_> Error: File system was not cleanly unmounted!  You should run e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean file system could cause severe corruption.
[04:47] <Zamber> earl_ look on the bottom of this one http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[04:47] <root_> k..
[04:47] <root_> i'll do that
[04:47] <Dr_willis> earl_,  you dont want to run parted on mounted filesystems.  id advise using a live cd. checking the filesystems, then doing your parted work.
[04:48] <KennethP> I'll try this once more: When installing the webdeveloper 1.0.2 extention on Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> via Adept on Kubuntu 6.10 I see this 'Not compatible with Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>' message' - the developer claims that it should be... any ideas?
[04:48] <earl_> that's probably a good idea, i didn't intend to do anything right now, i was mostly just checking out the program
[04:48] <mineur> earl_: better use a live cd for messing with partitions... and I'd strongly suggest a backup before messing with partitions
[04:48] <Zamber> earl_ I can't find a autorun script for aiglx, I have xgl only ;P
[04:48] <earl_> but, how do i run this e2fsck and what kind of thing does it do
[04:49] <makuseru> mineur: intel ich5
[04:49] <mineur> makuseru: hang on :)
[04:49] <makuseru> k
[04:49] <Dr_willis> earl_,  its a disk-checker program. :) normally ran from a shell.
[04:50] <mineur> if you want beryl to run automatically, check: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX#Configuring_Beryl
[04:50] <earl_> well i mean, what is the usage of
[04:50] <earl_> it
[04:50] <earl_> like e2fsck /dev/hdc3 or whatever?
[04:50] <root_> hello.. i executed d 1st command.. i.e the update one
[04:50] <Dr_willis> man e2fsck
[04:50] <mineur> !e2fsck
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e2fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <Dr_willis> earl_,  basicially
[04:50] <mineur> stupid bot :p
[04:50] <root_> but the upgrade 1 tells me download 140 mb..
[04:50] <Dr_willis> root_,  so...
[04:50] <root_> i cant do that much..
[04:51] <root_> now..i mean
[04:51] <root_> i want to do essential files only
[04:51] <mineur> makuseru: is alsa installed or something like that, actually someone tell me what's the default sound server in ubuntu? it just worked out of the box here... :)
[04:51] <root_> could you guide
[04:51] <Dr_willis> let it download what it can i guess... what sort of answer are ya expecting.. it sees all the updates to the stuff and wants to install them..
[04:51] <root_> no..pls
[04:51] <earl_> i see, thanks
[04:51] <makuseru> its set to automatic
[04:52] <Dr_willis> other stuff you want to install may need those updates as well
[04:52] <sinbad33> why wont Konq let me delete some old files on one of my drives ??
[04:52] <root_> i mean.no open office n firefox stuf.. just system resources.. i no it sounds a bit wierd
[04:52] <root_> k..
[04:52] <MetProphet> Hi there...
[04:52] <mineur> makuseru: check if alsa is installed
[04:52] <Dr_willis> you could just 'update' then try installing whateger it is you want.. but it still may try to upgrade some things.
[04:53] <makuseru> how do i do that
[04:53] <sinbad33> how do i enable 'delete' permissions on Konq ??
[04:53] <mineur> makuseru: sudo apt-get install alsa-base
[04:53] <root_> k..
[04:53] <makuseru> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  perhaps check the permissions/ownership of those files.
[04:54] <mineur> so it is installed :)
[04:54] <makuseru> yup
[04:54] <root_> ne wayz thnx a lot 4 yer help.. hope to see you soon..
[04:55] <sinbad33> Dr, i tried to do that but they were all greyed out :(
[04:55] <root_> bye
[04:55] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  time to use the shell.. and go look at the files I guess. :)
[04:55] <makuseru> mineur: what now?
[04:55] <sinbad33> shell? u mean kconsole ?
[04:55] <mineur> you use kde right?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  ls -al /whatever/files and see whos owning them and what perms.. are they on a windows drive? or what sort of drive
[04:56] <Dr_willis> !shell
[04:56] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:56] <mineur> makuseru: the sound system is enabled in system settings?
[04:56] <sinbad33> Dr, well they are on an old slave ntfs drive i used to use on windows xp
[04:56] <makuseru> yes
[04:57] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  you realize that 'writing' to ntfs drives is sort of unsupported. :)
[04:57] <mineur> makuseru: and does it give an error?
[04:57] <makuseru> no
[04:57] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  reading the files is good.. writing/deleteing - can trash the drive.. (but i hear its doable, but risky)
[04:57] <earl_> one more thing guys, i'm considering just reinstalling kubuntu, any suggestions on how big i should make my swap partition?
[04:57] <mineur> are your speakers turned on? :d
[04:57] <makuseru> yes
[04:58] <Dr_willis> earl_,  i always make at least a 512mb swap. reguardless of ram.. how mych ram ya got?
[04:58] <mineur> earl_: some people used to say twice your ram... but I'd say same amount as your ram
[04:58] <sinbad33> Dr, oh really?! didnt know that
[04:59] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  Now ya do. :)
[04:59] <sinbad33> Dr, thanx for telling me , guess i need to be 'careful'
[04:59] <sinbad33> i thought by now kubuntu was fully ntfs compat
[05:00] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  theres an addon for windows that lets XP read/write to your Linux Ext2/3 drives - so i rarely have to write to ntfs drives (or use them at all ) these days
[05:00] <mineur> makuseru: I'm not sure then, I always had my sound working out of the box...
[05:00] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  i doubt if linux will every be FULLY ntfs compat.. since MS wont release all the specs.
[05:00] <mineur> I never had problems writing to ntfs... but indeed they say to do it at your own risk....
[05:00] <Dr_willis> sinbad33,  i hear its very useable... but do you really want to risk the data...
[05:00] <mineur> I do lol
[05:00] <mineur> like to live on the edge hehe
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Losing your mp3 files is one thing.... losing your Boss's data files is another...
[05:01] <Dr_willis> and Losing your PORN is unacceptable!
[05:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:01] <mineur> I wouldn't store my boss's data on a ntfs drive hehe
[05:01] <mineur> and definatly not my pron roflol
[05:02] <sinbad33> Dr, no i dont want to risk my data on that drive, but i have alot of large >4Gb files on it, can i do a conversion or should i just not use the ntfs drive as an aux kubuntu drive at all ?
[05:02] <earl_> i have 768mb of ram
[05:02] <earl_> and i have 1gb of swap
[05:02] <earl_> not enough? too much?
[05:02] <sinbad33> HAHA
[05:02] <sinbad33> right!
[05:02] <mineur> earl_: is your HD big enough?
[05:02] <earl_> define big enough
[05:03] <mineur> lol that depends on what you use it for!
[05:03] <earl_> giggidy
[05:03] <sinbad33> i just hope i will be able to use that drive with xp again
[05:03] <Lynoure> earl_: Laptop or desktop?
[05:03] <sinbad33> giggidy?
[05:03] <earl_> i have a 7g NTFs partition, a 7g ext3 partition, 1gb swap, 40something fat32
[05:03] <earl_> it's a desktop
[05:03] <mineur> fat32..... eeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[05:03] <earl_> welllllllllll
[05:03] <earl_> it has all my music and stuff
[05:04] <Alarm> hello. i got a problem with the sound OR video. when i open a tv application (it happened to kdetv as also motv) , and close the application, the application closes , but the sound still continues. that has as an effect not to allow my system to shut down , and when i reset the computer and log in again the tv application starts again, like it has been crashed during the shutdown. what can i check ?
[05:04] <mineur> I'd go for ext3 then and install tools in winblows to read ext3 :)
[05:04] <Lynoure> earl_: For hibernation 2xram is good, it's also often recommended for desktops but I rarely use more than 1xram of swap
[05:04] <earl_> i dont know how feasible that really is, mineur =P
[05:04] <penguinfan> hello, i have some videos from my digi cam and want to convert them to a smaller format or rotate them by 90 degrees. in windows i would use windows movie maker. what do i use in kubuntu?
[05:05] <earl_> unless it will be fully integrated into windows, its not enough
[05:06] <BluesKaj> howdy
[05:06] <earl_> just a few more assorted questions
[05:06] <earl_> do any of you find klipper useful
[05:07] <Lynoure> earl_: I do.
[05:07] <sinbad33> generic mount options ?
[05:07] <mineur> ext2fsd integrates nicely... I think, not sure tho, but then again... ext2.... no thanx :)
[05:07] <cntb> earl_: sure do
[05:07] <waylandbill> earl_: I think the ext tools for windows integrates in (like in the explorer and stuff)
[05:07] <earl_> hm
[05:07] <earl_> what is it for
[05:08] <mineur> I never use it, but I'm still wating for the day I'll find it useful :d
[05:08] <Dr_willis> the various Tools for windows that read ext2 ALSO read ext3
[05:08] <earl_> like i can't think of a single thing to use it for, but i don't wnat to close it 'cause i'm afraid it'll be useful once i do
[05:08] <Dr_willis> at least they should be able to.
[05:08] <mineur> you can restart it then lol
[05:08] <waylandbill> yeah... ext3 as well as ext3
[05:08] <cntb> earl try it has all your last pastes for re-use
[05:08] <mineur> it's just to manage multiple copy/paste actions
[05:08] <mineur> I mostly just recopy and paste, but I guess for some people it's handy :)
[05:09] <cntb> earl_:  so leave it
[05:09] <earl_> well, if i was going to do this whole ext3 through windows thing, it would have to be readable and writable by any program
[05:09] <earl_> and, hopeflly, stable
[05:09] <cntb> be productive leave defaults alone
[05:09] <mineur> if it integrates... it is rw-able
[05:09] <Dr_willis> earl_,  ext3/2 is read/writeable from windows.. but you want to be carefull with it. :) you know how stable windows is...
[05:10] <mineur> lol
[05:10] <earl_> hm - what about speed and stability
[05:10] <earl_> i have a 20gb music collection, losing that would be inexcusable
[05:10] <Lynoure> earl_: I use it often for pasting urls to people, or when editing text, pasting bits I removed earlier
[05:10] <mineur> speed is ok, stability... as stable as winblows I guess :d
[05:10] <Dr_willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/       - is what i use to access the linxu drives.
[05:10] <matthew_> !wmv
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <earl_> thanks guys, i mostly asked about klipper because i dont like having things in the system tray
[05:11] <cntb> earl_: burn that music or buy more hard disks and copy backup
[05:11] <Lynoure> earl_: Hmm, do you know you can copy-paste simply by selecting text and middle clicking? If not, I can see how klipper does not make sense for you :)
[05:11] <earl_> yup lynoure, i do know about thh
[05:11] <earl_> that*
[05:13] <mineur> I wonder if wolfenstein would run on my intel Graphical card.... :)
[05:15] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound working on edgy
[05:16] <waylandbill> makuseru: do you get an error or something?
[05:17] <makuseru> no
[05:17] <makuseru> i just get no sound
[05:18] <waylandbill> well, your card is detected okay?
[05:18] <makuseru> it sees it
[05:18] <earl_> hm - bottom line it fo me guys, do you really recommend i move all my fat32 stuff (movies, games, music, etc) onto an ext3 partition, or is this just experimental stuff
[05:18] <mineur> earl_: if it works nicely with fat32.... don't change, never change a winning team :)
[05:19] <cntb> makuseru: alt f2 kmix
[05:19] <makuseru> what about kmix?
[05:19] <earl_> yeah aside from the whole eww windows thing, i never had any problems
[05:19] <cntb> earl_:  dont move copy it
[05:19] <cntb> backups are not a waste
[05:20] <earl_> cntb: the thing i like about my current setup is taht any changes/additions i make on one os applies to the other
[05:20] <earl_> copying... kinda negates that
[05:20] <mineur> if you plan to throw windows out of the window... well go for it, but if you want to keep winblows.... it all depends what you wsant yourself
[05:20] <cntb> your choice earl_
[05:21] <earl_> oh of course if i was ever to get rid of windows i wouldn't have second thoughts about putting it on a linux partition
[05:21] <earl_> oh, speaking of which
[05:22] <earl_> how come when i installed edgy, i was limited to ext3
[05:22] <earl_> no more reiserfs?
[05:22] <waylandbill> the guy who wrote reiserfs was up on charges last I knew.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> no native reiser support
[05:22] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound working on edgy
[05:23] <mineur> reiserfs is getting sued (spelling??) for murder on his wife... he wants to sell the company that develops reiserfs...
[05:23] <waylandbill> ext3 works just fine.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> you can set up a resiserfs partition with other tools beforhand if you really wanted to.
[05:23] <mineur> hmm not reiserfs is getting the lawsuit but the guy who made it lol
[05:23] <waylandbill> I thought it was murder, but couldn't recall.
[05:23] <earl_> i had heard about the murder thing, but i didn't know if that was the reaosn why
[05:23] <mineur> yeah waylandbill, charges are for murder on his wife
[05:24] <mineur> I guess so, it could be that reiserfs dissapears with time...
[05:24] <Dr_willis> earl_,  thats not the reason 'why' its not officially supported - i think. :)
[05:24] <earl_> well i was told it was the best partition to use
[05:24] <mineur> so, better invest in sure things
[05:24] <mineur> reiserfs is pretty good... but ext3 works just fine too
[05:24] <earl_> so i was kinda sad to see it go
[05:24] <Dr_willis> theres so many arguments for/against reiserfs being used for different tasks.. but i think it boils down do - the drawbacks outweigh the benifits.
[05:24] <chih>
[05:25] <waylandbill> earl_: it very well could be, but if noone's going to support it, then it doesn't help much.
[05:25] <earl_> yeah
[05:25] <Dr_willis> it may be 'best' in some very few specific cases
[05:25] <Lynoure> Why would anything the Reiser guy do make the fs go away?
[05:25] <Lynoure> It's open source, is it not?
[05:25] <earl_> in the end it really really doesn't matter to me, as long as it works well i don't care, i just thought it was strange
[05:25] <mineur> yeah it is
[05:26] <mineur> but he's pretty protective... not allowing many contributions
[05:26] <Dr_willis> actually 'him' going away . may be the best thing for reiserfs.
[05:26] <Lynoure> If there is need/use for it, people will keep on supporting it or working on it.
[05:26] <mineur> so when he goes down... he'll probably take his project with him, unless someone takes over of course
[05:26] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound working on edgy
[05:26] <Dr_willis> but basisially (i hear) he draggs his feet.. so thhes other FS's are catching up.
[05:26] <mineur> but like you say... that will only happen when there's need for it... I think ext3 does a good job
[05:27] <waylandbill> Lynoure: of course, if there's someone to care enough to pick up the project and continue it.
[05:28] <Lynoure> waylandbill: and if not, it cannot be a big loss :)
[05:28] <waylandbill> :)
[05:30] <earl_> next question: i have set up timidity on my computer, it's pretty nifty, but now is there any way to use it to play midis... you know, without the commandline
[05:31] <mineur> !timidity
[05:31] <ubotu> timidity: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.2-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[05:31] <earl_> and i'm afraid i'm about to sound like a huge noob in a sec but, would it possible for it to work through like xine or something
[05:31] <earl_> i.e. so i could play midis through amarok
[05:32] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound working on edgy
[05:32] <earl_> or even an embedded midi on a webpage or something
[05:32] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  it can be a rather complex task.. and lots of details..  has it Ever worked?
[05:32] <makuseru> yes
[05:33] <makuseru> untill i put this new mobo in
[05:33] <waylandbill> makuseru: no need to repeat. you still haven't given enough info for anyone to help you or a question for someone to answer.
[05:33] <makuseru> there isnt any info
[05:33] <makuseru> thats the whole thiing, no sound
[05:33] <makuseru> no error or anything
[05:33] <makuseru> just no sound
[05:34] <waylandbill> do you have the mixer volume set? muted?
[05:34] <makuseru> no
[05:34] <earl_> makuseru... xorg.0.log doesn't give an error?
[05:34] <earl_> (that's about all the insight i can cook up for you bro)
[05:34] <makuseru> i dont think so, ill check again tho
[05:35] <earl_> yeah look through it for all the (EE) stuff and maybe the (WW)s, you're bound to find something
[05:36] <makuseru> no errors
[05:37] <earl_> i see
[05:37] <earl_> all out of ideas then, but i'm a noob so that shouldnt be a surprise
[05:41] <BluesKaj> the obvious question remains, earl_ , have you set thew volume sliders on all your inputs and outputs and switches in Kmix ?
[05:41] <earl_> uhh...
[05:42] <earl_> (makuseru was the one with the sound problem ^_^)
[05:42] <makuseru> and yes i have
[05:42] <makuseru> how can i reinstall the sound drivers
[05:43] <Plaa> Colours are wrong when I watch videos, I mean yellow is yellow but its too yellow; when I use x11 output everything looks right but in fullscreen I think the resolution drops and framerate possibly is too low, what should I do? this happens also in ubuntu
[05:46] <cntb> howto play mid?
[05:46] <BluesKaj> Plaa, perhaps your video monitor contrls will
[05:46] <BluesKaj> help
[05:47] <earl_> ?
[05:47] <Plaa> I have a laptop, and this only happens in videos
[05:47] <BluesKaj> <--- not quite awake yet ,sorry  earl_  :)
[05:48] <BluesKaj> makuseru, the obvious question remains, have you set the volume sliders on all your inputs and outputs and switches in Kmix ?
[05:49] <makuseru> yes
[05:50] <BluesKaj> well sorry makuseru, I had to ask it ...sometimes even the most knowledgeable forget the obvious
[05:50] <makuseru> hhaha
[05:50] <makuseru> how can i reinstall the sound drivers
[05:51] <TheGateKeeper> what's the command that tells you your kernel name etc?
[05:51] <BluesKaj> go to the manufacturere website ...there maybe drivers written for linux
[05:51] <earl_> thats okay =)
[05:51] <makuseru> never thought of that
[05:51] <mineur> uname -a
[05:52] <TheGateKeeper> mineur: thanx :-)
[05:52] <mineur> welcome :)
[05:52] <tobi__> Anyone an Idea, where I can get the lame encoder for my KAudioCreator (yes, I'm using KDE)
[05:55] <BluesKaj> tobi__, is there no Lame encoder in the "encoder list" ?
[05:58] <cntb> !mp3
[05:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:58] <tobi__> for sure it is, but it is not fully installed, because of license things... so before can rip my CDs into mp3 format i have to install the paket
[06:02] <makuseru> can someone please help me get sound working on edgy
[06:08] <tamacracka> Anyone know why a folder wont delete off of my desktop?
[06:08] <tamacracka> it gives me an access denied.
[06:09] <BluesKaj> maybe it's shared , tamacracka
[06:09] <PuNToCoM> hola. alguien q hable espaol'
[06:09] <tamacracka> shared?...
[06:09] <BluesKaj> !es
[06:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:09] <tamacracka> im not on a network
[06:12] <tamacracka> Can someone help me? I extracted a .rar file, I deleted the RAR file, but now I cannot delete the folder. I get an error: access denied.
[06:13] <stdin> tamacracka: who owns the folder?
[06:13] <tamacracka> <,<
[06:13] <tamacracka> i do
[06:13] <tamacracka> it's a file i downloaded.
[06:13] <tamacracka> onto my desktop
[06:13] <tamacracka> then extracted it onto the desktop
[06:13] <stdin> tamacracka: yeah, but look at the permissions tab, in the folder properties
[06:14] <tamacracka> User: tamacracker
[06:14] <tamacracka> group: tamacracker
[06:14] <tamacracka> <- tamacracker
[06:14] <tamacracka> :P
[06:15] <stdin> tamacracka: and what are the permissions ?
[06:15] <tamacracka> Can view
[06:15] <tamacracka> all of them.
[06:15] <tamacracka> can view
[06:15] <stdin> tamacracka: hmm, open konsole and try and delete it from there
[06:16] <tamacracka> >.> i dunno how to delete with console all i think i would have to type is -r "path name"
[06:16] <hak5fan> Hello how would I go about aplying this fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1847345
[06:16] <hak5fan> ?
[06:17] <stdin> tamacracka: I'll show you how to delete it
[06:17] <stdin> tamacracka: first cd to the desktop "cd Desktop" (case sensitive)
[06:17] <tamacracka> ok
[06:18] <tamacracka> ok
[06:18] <stdin> tamacracka: id the folder empty?
[06:18] <stdin> *is
[06:18] <tamacracka> nope it has mp3s
[06:18] <tamacracka> but i want all of it thrown out
[06:19] <stdin> tamacracka: ok :) type "rm -r folder" (replace "folder" with the name of the folder)
[06:19] <tamacracka> if there's spaces
[06:19] <tamacracka> do i need to use underscore?
[06:20] <stdin> tamacracka: no put it in quotes
[06:20] <hak5fan> To fix this error:  i8042.c: Can't read CTR while initializing i8042  I have to do this:
[06:20] <hak5fan> The fix is, when booting with grub, add the following option to the kernel line:
[06:20] <hak5fan> usb-handoff
[06:20] <hak5fan> How do I do this
[06:20] <stdin> hak5fan: you need to put it in to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:20] <tamacracka> ...
[06:21] <tamacracka> hold on
[06:21] <tamacracka> stdin this is the name of the folder on konsole: Goldyn\ Chyld
[06:21] <stdin> hak5fan: on the line with "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6....." at the end (an all the lines with it)
[06:21] <faLUCE> Hi, how can I write the output of a command directly to a file?
[06:22] <stdin> tamacracka: that's ok, using '\' is called "escaping", it lets the command know that the space is part of the name
[06:22] <hak5fan> stdin: ok
[06:22] <hak5fan> tnx
[06:22] <Alarm> is there any command i can see how many open connections i have ?
[06:22] <stdin> faLUCE: easy :) like this "command > filename"
[06:22] <tamacracka> so do i need to type rm -r "Goldyn\ Chyld" ?
[06:23] <Alarm> not what connections but the number of connections
[06:23] <stdin> tamacracka: yes
[06:23] <faLUCE> stdin: thnks
[06:23] <stdin> :)
[06:23] <tamacracka> rm: cannot remove `Goldyn\\ Chyld': No such file or directory
[06:24] <stdin> tamacracka: did you only use 1 '\' ?
[06:24] <tamacracka> oh i see
[06:24] <tamacracka> if i type \
[06:24] <tamacracka> i cant add a space
[06:24] <stdin> tamacracka: ahh , i see, no, if you quote it, you don't need a '\'
[06:24] <tamacracka> so it would be rm -r "Goldyn\Chyld'
[06:25] <stdin> tamacracka: so just type "rm -r Goldyn\ Chyld"
[06:25] <translation> Does anyone have a problem with alsa sound drivers in Kubuntu 6.10?
[06:25] <tamacracka> i can't add a space lol
[06:25] <tamacracka> or it wont recognize it
[06:25] <stdin> tamacracka: if you put the "\" before the space, it will
[06:28] <translation> Could some one throw some light on  the "cpu overload- sound server problem" with alsa drivers in kubuntu?
[06:28] <tamacracka> it wont let me remove the stupid write protection
[06:28] <stdin> Alarm: the only thing I can think of is "sudo cat /proc/net/nf_conntrack|grep ESTABLISHED|wc -l"
[06:29] <tamacracka> nevermind :\
[06:29] <tamacracka> i changed the permission through the properties
[06:29] <Alarm> what would that command do ?
[06:29] <tamacracka> LOL
[06:29] <tamacracka> thanks stdin
[06:29] <stdin> tamacracka: ok, we could add write permissions to it with "chmod +w Goldyn\ Chyld" but you can just do "sudo rm -r Goldyn\ Chyld" too
[06:30] <stdin> Alarm: what you wanted, show how many active connections there are
[06:30] <Alarm> hope cat wont modify any file
[06:31] <faLUCE> stdin, and how can I do if I want to write to the same file the output of two consecutive commands?
[06:31] <stdin> Alarm: no, cat just prints the file, you could do it like this too "sudo grep ESTABLISHED /proc/net/nf_conntrack|wc -l
[06:32] <translation> /q
[06:32] <Alarm> thank u
[06:32] <stdin> np :)
[06:32] <Alarm> grep: /proc/net/nf_conntrack: No such file or directory
[06:32] <Alarm> unfortunatelly
[06:32] <stdin> faLUCE: you mean write to it twice, without overwriting it ?
[06:33] <faLUCE> stdin: yes
[06:33] <stdin> Alarm: hmm, have a look in /proc/net there should be something in there with the same info
[06:33] <Alarm> okie thank you
[06:34] <stdin> faLUCE: command1 > file ; command 2 >> file
[06:35] <faLUCE> stdin: what can i say:) thnks again
[06:35] <TurnTheOtherWay> hi again stdin
[06:36] <stdin> faLUCE: no problem. you may find this page/site useful too http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[06:36] <stdin> hay TurnTheOtherWay :)
[06:36] <hak5fan> stdin: it worked thank you
[06:36] <TurnTheOtherWay> the kubuntu thing went terribly lol
[06:37] <BluesKaj> TurnTheOtherWay, why did you have to reinstall windows , did you lose the parition ?
[06:37] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: I never use the graphical installer, so I'm not an expert on it :P
[06:37] <stdin> hak5fan: no proble m :)
[06:37] <stdin> *problem :P
[06:37] <TurnTheOtherWay> BluesKaj: i lost everything cos grub wouldnt work and i have a raid drive which i think confused it
[06:38] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: you use the alternative?
[06:38] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: yeah, I always use it
[06:38] <hak5fan> I have one more problem though.... even though the modprobe command showed that my nvidia drivers were installed I'm only able to start x right after the installation if i reboot then I get an api mismatch error
[06:38] <TurnTheOtherWay> stdin: does it give you the option not to use GRUB?
[06:39] <chavo> I've used both disks with no problem here, but I don't have any raid setups either
[06:39] <BluesKaj> oh I see , TurnTheOtherWay ...bummer :(
[06:39] <TurnTheOtherWay> BluesKaj: definitely. i think i will use the alternative... if i try again. im mentally scarred after that :p
[06:39] <stdin> TurnTheOtherWay: yeah, it does, but you do need a bootloader somewhere
[06:39] <d0dge> Any suggestions, why I can't change resolution more than 1024x768? I have NVIDIA drivers for my geforce.
[06:40] <stdin> !xconfig
[06:40] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[06:40] <d0dge> !
[06:40] <d0dge> Oh
[06:40] <stdin> d0dge: use the 2nd command there
[06:41] <BluesKaj> <--- no idea how a raid setup is handled in Kubuntu and afraid to find out :)
[06:41] <d0dge> stdin: Ok, in the list I have VESA, should I take nv or NVIDIA
[06:41] <TurnTheOtherWay_> woah wtf my connection to freenode got reset :/
[06:41] <faLUCE> stdin: one last question: i have to write to a file the output of two commands (in the same line, with this char "-" between them) ONLY if BOTH commands give me a result
[06:42] <frojnd> !wmv
[06:42] <stdin> d0dge: if you want to use the binary NVIDIA driver, choose "nvidia", if that fails, use "nv"
[06:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <Alarm> one more question. i got jdk1.5 installed. but cannot view java with firefox cause the plugin is not installed. found in the repo java plugin for firefox but its the 1.4.2 version, which means a lower version will be installed. can i use java1.5 on the firefox as a plugin to view it on webpages ?
[06:42] <BluesKaj> !RAID
[06:42] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:42] <soulrider> hi
[06:42] <soulrider> does anyone know if theres a wine channel on freenode ?
[06:42] <tobi__> d0dge: which card is it you want to install ?
[06:43] <stdin> Alarm: install "sun-java5-plugin" that's version 1.5
[06:43] <stdin> soulrider: #winehq
[06:43] <soulrider> thanks stdin
[06:43] <TurnTheOtherWay_> hmm a raid page... thanls blues
[06:43] <d0dge> stdin: Ok, should I reboot? I made some changes in the resolution list
[06:43] <BluesKaj> NP . TurnTheOtherWay_
[06:43] <stdin> d0dge: no, just restart X, logout and choose "restart the X server" from the login menu
[06:44] <d0dge> stdin: Okay, thanks for help!
[06:44] <stdin> faLUCE: that's more advanced, you'd get a better answer in #bash :)
[06:44] <Alarm> stdin,  in the repo i see just 1.4.2 dude
[06:44] <bonbonthejon> are there any native german speakers I can ask a question
[06:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> !de
[06:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> so yes
[06:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> ;)
[06:45] <stdin> Alarm: It don't matter, if it's called "sun-java5-plugin" it's for java 1.5, trust me :)
[06:46] <soulrider> Alarm: java 5 == java1.5
[06:46] <Alarm> okie, thank you a lot
[06:46] <soulrider> Alarm: even sun uses those 2 numbers for java 1.5/5
[06:46] <tobi__> !mp3
[06:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <soulrider> TurnTheOtherWay_: i think youre turning the other way :P
[06:46] <TurnTheOtherWay_> soulrider: how so? :p
[06:47] <soulrider> uhm.. windows firewall... wtf? o.O
[06:47] <Alarm> j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin ,
[06:47] <Alarm> ok found also the 5
[06:47] <soulrider> Alarm: jre1.4 is older
[06:47] <Alarm> thank you
[06:47] <soulrider> install 5 or 1.5
[06:47] <TurnTheOtherWay_> soulrider: lmao i had to reinstall windows and i only just installed ZA again so have to restart
[06:48] <TurnTheOtherWay_> im on the dark side :p
[06:48] <soulrider> lol yes
[06:48] <Silentme> is there anyway to restart/reload a device?
[06:48] <soulrider> you have to restart allt he time
[06:48] <soulrider> Silentme: like what ?
[06:48] <TurnTheOtherWay_> ALL the time
[06:48] <soulrider> TurnTheOtherWay_: just use ubuntu! :P
[06:48] <Silentme> soulrider:  webcam
[06:49] <TurnTheOtherWay_> soulrider: i cant, installing kubuntu is the reason why i had to redo windows and stuff cos of damned GRUB. :(
[06:50] <xwolf> i'm looking for the config files for programs i want to startup at the time i login to kde
[06:51] <TurnTheOtherWay_> which programs?
[06:51] <soulrider> sorry, no idea Silentme
[06:51] <soulrider> TurnTheOtherWay_: what happened to your grub ?
[06:52] <TurnTheOtherWay_> soulrider: i got error 2. i think its cos of my RAID.
[06:52] <soulrider> oh
[06:52] <soulrider> i cant help you with raid
[06:52] <TurnTheOtherWay_> it couldnt even see the hdd lol
[06:52] <soulrider> :(
[06:53] <TurnTheOtherWay_> theres a raid help page here, which im viewing in my very safe state :p bt it looks damn complicated lol
[06:53] <bonbonthejon> TurnTheOtherWay_: grub can't boot from RAID
[06:53] <TurnTheOtherWay_> bonbonthejon: it cant? ah hell.
[06:53] <TurnTheOtherWay_> bonbonthejon: what can boot from raid?
[06:53] <MidMark> raid is hell for linux and for your data
[06:53] <bonbonthejon> TurnTheOtherWay_: I have a RAID, just put a small /boot partition, then grub works wihthat
[06:54] <TurnTheOtherWay_> you have to custom make it?
[06:54] <TurnTheOtherWay_> you use alternative or graphic?
[06:54] <bonbonthejon> TurnTheOtherWay_: i ran the alternative install cd, create two partitions, one /boot, the other is for RAID
[06:55] <TurnTheOtherWay_> ahhh
[06:55] <bonbonthejon> TurnTheOtherWay_: oh, and a swap partition
[06:55] <TurnTheOtherWay_> wish i had known that lol
[06:55] <TurnTheOtherWay_> thanks
[06:55] <bonbonthejon> TurnTheOtherWay_: grub doesnt have the RAID drivers
[06:56] <bonbonthejon> TurnTheOtherWay_: i need to leave, but I should be back in 45 minutes, if you need more help
[06:56] <TurnTheOtherWay_> bonbonthejon: no, ive gven up on linux for now lol
[06:57] <TurnTheOtherWay_> bonbonthejon: thanks for the offer though
[07:00] <jjesse> good afternoon, is there something i can try to troublshoot why my laptop freezes/stops responding on edgy?
[07:01] <MidMark> jjesse: using skype 1.3?
[07:01] <jjesse> MidMark: no
[07:01] <MidMark> so check in the log if there are some errors
[07:01] <jjesse> it will freeze w/ just konqi opened up
[07:02] <Silentme> Newly uppgraded from dapper to edgy?
[07:02] <jjesse> no fresh install
[07:02] <Silentme> from cd?
[07:03] <jjesse> and i don't ssee any erros in system log
[07:03] <jjesse> Silentme: yeah from the desktop cd
[07:03] <amigrave> I cant' find package kuickshow anymore, is there a replacement for it ? I like gwenview for viewing my albums, but kuickshow was faster and I associate it to images because most of the time I want to click on an image and see it fast, then I want to hit esc to quit the program. Is there a kde program that is like kuickshow ?
[07:03] <Silentme> gqwiev?
[07:04] <amigrave> is gqview a kde or qt program ?
[07:04] <Silentme> g stand for gnome i guess, but it has worked for me in kde ,   if i dont bistake it for gwnview
[07:05] <amigrave> Silentme: yes but I hate gnome file selector and lack of responsiveness of gtk
[07:05] <Silentme> well , it has worked fine for me , in kde
[07:05] <amigrave> Silentme: this is the main reason why I use kde ;-)
[07:05] <n8k99> amigrave have you tried digikam?
[07:05] <HymnToLife> amen to that
[07:06] <tobi__> How do you rip a cd? any hint ?
[07:06] <HymnToLife> tobi__, audio CD ?
[07:06] <amigrave> n8k99: digikam is most like gwenview (correct me if I'm wrong) but I want the lightest viewer possible
[07:06] <Silentme> k3b
[07:06] <tobi__> audio cd...yes!
[07:06] <HymnToLife> I personnally use !abcde
[07:06] <amigrave> tobi__: kaudiocreator
[07:07] <HymnToLife> !abcde
[07:07] <ubotu> abcde: A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:07] <chavo> amigrave, try kview
[07:07] <chavo> you can also go to the settings and make Esc quit the program
[07:07] <n8k99> amigrave: gwenview is an image viewer, digikam is an image manager - you can edit, tag, export and post from digikam
[07:07] <tobi__> does it mp3s ?
[07:08] <n8k99> amigrave: but I understand wanting lightweight apps
[07:08] <tobi__> my KAudioCreator works, but I was searching days for the lame encoder paket, but didn't find it.
[07:09] <jjesse> tobi__:  apt-get install lame
[07:09] <jjesse> should handle it for KAudioCreator
[07:09] <Silentme> i have liked gqview its wery easy to use, it has 3 frames 1 to browse 1to view thumbs and 1to see pict in real size
[07:10] <amigrave> n8k99: well light is not the real term, I mean fast. A program which has not a bloated UI for viewing only purpose. Kuickshow was the best program for me. BTW: do you know why it has been removed ?
[07:10] <tobi__> jjesse: tahnks
[07:10] <wimpies> Hi all, I run edgy now and an unable to hear sound in presentations.  On my other system I forcefully installed version 2.1 and have no problems.  Presuming 2.1 is in feisty and hearing that Herd2 is out ... is it *now* safe enough to upgrade ?
[07:10] <tobi__> i'll try
[07:10] <HymnToLife> !kuickshow
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kuickshow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <Silentme> !gqview
[07:10] <ubotu> gqview: A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 707 kB, installed size 2312 kB
[07:11] <HymnToLife> damn, they removed KS ?
[07:11] <n8k99> amigrave: no idea why its not included
[07:11] <HymnToLife> I'm glad I switched back to Debian
[07:11] <chavo> amigrave, kview is a little lighter than gwenview did yiu try it?
[07:12] <n8k99> amigrave: if you have all your repos enabled kuickshow is part of kdegraphics
[07:12] <endo602> hey
[07:12] <jjesse> hey
[07:13] <endo602> Can someone walk me through the steps to change my vcard
[07:13] <endo602> ?
[07:14] <amigrave> chavo: I remember I tried it when I was searching a viewer and of course it is light, but it is slow on big images and it is slow when you zoom a big image. Well it was a long time ago when I saw these problems, maybe they are corrected now. Going to try again
[07:15] <chavo> amigrave, ok but it only starts marginally faster than gwenview for me anyway
[07:15] <amigrave> n8k99: kdegraphics is a metapackage right ? how can I know what will be installed if I install kdegraphics ? I would like to avoid installing unneeded package
[07:16] <HymnToLife> amigrave, it's not a metapackage
[07:16] <HymnToLife> it's one package, but it contains several apps
[07:16] <KillerBee> hello
[07:16] <HymnToLife> hmm, actually I'm not that sure about it anymore, lemme check
[07:16] <KillerBee> is it posible to install kubuntu on a reiserfs3 filesystem?
[07:17] <Silentme>  is there any way to restart/reload a  video device?
[07:17] <Silentme>  i  tried lsof  but now there is no cam showing, (i was stupid enough to unplug it and pluged it back in, and now it cant find it)
[07:17] <chavo> I just installed kdegraphics and there's no kuickshow there either
[07:17] <HymnToLife> KillerBee, certainly, just choose ReiserFS at the partitioning
[07:18] <HymnToLife> yeah indeed, it's not in it either
[07:18] <KillerBee> oh I never remembered that it has that option
[07:18] <chavo> apt-get install *
[07:18] <HymnToLife> on my Debian, kuickshow is in it's own package
[07:19] <HymnToLife> but it doesn't seem to exist in Ubuntu
[07:19] <HymnToLife> !info kuickshow
[07:19] <ubotu> Package kuickshow does not exist in any distro I know
[07:19] <amigrave> HymnToLife: yes I found some threads about this now
[07:19] <HymnToLife> seems it has been removed in Dapper...
[07:19] <HymnToLife> !info kuickshow breezy
[07:19] <ubotu> kuickshow: KDE image/slideshow viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2.5 (breezy), package size 458 kB, installed size 892 kB
[07:20] <TheGateKeeper> can you use deborphan to show dependencies on a particular package?
[07:20] <HymnToLife> I guess just installing the Breezy package might work
[07:21] <waylandbill> TheGateKeeper. apt-cache or aptitude show will list the deps.
[07:21] <Silentme> Do i have to restart my computer again to get my cam to work /be found again !?!
[07:21] <n8k99> kuickshow doesn't look like it has been under development since 16/08/01
[07:21] <HymnToLife> or you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and search for it
[07:21] <n8k99> that maybe why its not in dapper
[07:21] <amigrave> HymnToLife: seems to be a metapackage
[07:22] <HymnToLife> amigrave, yep it is, sorry
[07:22] <HymnToLife> but Kuickshow is not in it
[07:22] <TheGateKeeper> waylandbill, hmmm don't know suppose you know where I would find the source code for ldd ?
[07:22] <[KillerB] > my net went down, anyways it is possible to install kubuntu without removing my prevois user homefolder?
[07:23] <HymnToLife> [KillerB] , if you were wise enough to put it on a separate partition, yes
[07:23] <Silentme> Do i have to restart my computer again to get my cam to work /be found again !?!
[07:23] <HymnToLife> if not, you can still do it now
[07:23] <n8k99> sourceforge lists kuikshow's lastest update as 2002-10-16 in CVS, which seems to indicate that it is no longer in development as KDE now uses SVN
[07:24] <[KillerB] > I did not but doing it seems like the best ideea
[07:24] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: ldd seems to be a bash script
[07:24] <HymnToLife> [KillerB] , http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[07:26] <[KillerB] > now if I would only have the space to slipt it damn it
[07:27] <[KillerB] > my homefolder is about 100gb
[07:28] <jjesse> wow that's a huge homefolder
[07:28] <jjesse> lots of music?
[07:28] <[KillerB] > yep
[07:28] <jjesse> time to get a usb drive to keep it on :)
[07:28] <jjesse> that's what i've done w/ mine
[07:28] <TheGateKeeper> stdin, it's a bash command, I don't know how it was written, but lists dependencies of an app, if I could use it in a c/c++ program I could possible come up with something better than deborphan
[07:29] <[KillerB] > what if I just install ubuntu on a temporary drive, remove everything on my gentoo hdd except my homefolder and and copy over ubuntu?
[07:29] <Silentme> is there no one who knows if i have to restart my computer to get my cam to be regonized again (as a video device) ??
[07:29] <n8k99> amigrave look on http://kde-apps.org for a graphics viewer to replace kuickshow
[07:29] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: I mean it was written in bash, take a look at it in less (mine is a bash script)
[07:30] <tobi__> !debian
[07:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[07:30] <amigrave> n8k99: thanks but actually I'm googling in order to find why kuickshow would be deprecated in kubuntu, it seems strange to me
[07:30] <TheGateKeeper> stdin, ok thanx :-), damn I will have to reboot back to kubuntu
[07:31] <n8k99> amigrave: its because it hasnt been in development since 2002
[07:31] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: you should always be in kubuntu :P
[07:31] <n8k99> last release was 0.8.2
[07:31] <amigrave> n8k99: mhhhhhhh, ok. That's a good reason ;-)
[07:32] <n8k99> amigrave its not even listed as an active kde application
[07:32] <mr_> #xubuntu
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> stdin, well I am in gentoo at the moment, so I will have to beg to differ there :-)
[07:33] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: well you can still look at the files on kubuntu in gentoo
[07:33] <wolfwalker> I still need help, if anyone would like to answer a newbie's idiot questions
[07:33] <wolfwalker> I finally found out where to put command prompts :/
[07:34] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:34] <wolfwalker> I downloaded Audacity as a .deb file
[07:34] <amigrave> n8k99: may I ask you what you do use for quick image viewing ?
[07:34] <TheGateKeeper> stdin, ohhh I got here too :P
[07:34] <wolfwalker> Now what do I DO with that .deb file?
[07:34] <mr_> Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?
[07:34] <n8k99> amigrave: konqueror can render previews
[07:34] <Agent_bob> !repos | wolfwalker
[07:34] <ubotu> wolfwalker: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:34] <chavo> wolfwalker, audacity is in the repos
[07:34] <stdin> wolfwalker: why don't you use the version in adept ?
[07:35] <wolfwalker> No, I'm not online on my Kubuntu computer
[07:35] <wolfwalker> I'm on Windows Xp on this one
[07:35] <wolfwalker> that's why I got the .deb file
[07:35] <n8k99> amigrave: they are thumbnails - and then when you want to look at them gwenview is embedded
[07:35] <Agent_bob> wolfwalker ok.  dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[07:35] <chavo> wolfwalker, use sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:35] <wolfwalker> I tried that
[07:35] <wolfwalker> "package" is the full file name, right?
[07:36] <Agent_bob> yes
[07:36] <stdin> wolfwalker: are you trying to install audacity in windows?
[07:36] <mr_> Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?
[07:36] <wolfwalker> No, trying to install audacity in Kubuntu
[07:36] <wolfwalker> Audacity rocks, for the record
[07:36] <Agent_bob> stdin linux box is not online
[07:36] <amigrave> n8k99: maybe you are the person I should ask a question for which I never got a response so far for some years now ...
[07:36] <jjesse> can't you just do an apt-get install audacity?
[07:36] <n8k99> amigrave:um ok
[07:37] <stdin> wolfwalker: aah, so you downloaded the file in windows
[07:37] <wolfwalker> My linux computer is not online
[07:37] <mr_> Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card (LAN, not W-LAN) to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?
[07:37] <tom_biggy> hello folks!!!
[07:37] <wolfwalker> Yes, I downloaded the .deb file for Audacity
[07:37] <wolfwalker> My internet computer is Windows, yes
[07:37] <wolfwalker> Took the .deb file to my Kubuntu computer
[07:38] <stdin> wolfwalker: use "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"  where "package.deb" is the filename of the file you downloaded
[07:38] <tom_biggy> could you help me?
[07:38] <chavo> wolfwalker, it's probably missing some dependencies
[07:38] <tom_biggy> i upgraded to KDE 3.5.5
[07:38] <tom_biggy> and i can hardly mount cd and usb stick
[07:38] <tom_biggy> :(
[07:38] <tom_biggy> i did the upgrade from the repo shown on www.kubuntu.org
[07:38] <chavo> I just did apt-get install audacity and it installed libwxgtk2.4-1 also
[07:39] <stdin> wolfwalker: I think you can use "sudo apt-get --print-uris -f install" to get a list of the dependencies it needs, then sownload them, and install the same way
[07:39] <tom_biggy> so can anybody can help me?
[07:39] <wolfwalker> ...........
[07:39] <tom_biggy> what should i do?
[07:40] <Agent_bob> wolfwalker audacity depends on  " audacity libflac++5c2 libid3tag0 libsndfile1 libwxgtk2.4-1  "  plus xorg
[07:40] <wolfwalker> Okay, what if I just drag that computer down here, turn off this computer, plug my modem to the Kubuntu computer, reboot my DSL modem, turn on the Kubuntu computer and try to access the internet.
[07:40] <tom_biggy> :-(
[07:40] <wolfwalker> Will I get online?
[07:40] <tom_biggy> hey!
[07:40] <n8k99> amigrave ping
[07:41] <tom_biggy> why dontchoo answer?
[07:41] <amigrave> n8k99: when using konquror in file management view I associate images to kuickview (now I have to search another one) but when I use konqueror as a browser (web view) and I cliack on a link which leads to an image, I want the image to be displayed in konqueror like other browser, I don't want kuickview or whatever to be embeded in konqueror (see what I mean ?) It's a kde related question, but as you seems to use konqueror for i
[07:41] <hak5fan> All (known) bugs in my kubuntu installation is now fixed
[07:41] <Agent_bob> wolfwalker likely  but no promiceses
[07:41] <hak5fan> I'm happy :D
[07:41] <wolfwalker> lol
[07:41] <wolfwalker> Have there ever been any promises about that?
[07:41] <wolfwalker> lol
[07:41] <mr_> Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card (LAN, not W-LAN) to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?
[07:41] <Agent_bob> only a few.
[07:41] <tom_biggy> why i can't automount anything after upgrading to kde 3.5.5?
[07:41] <wolfwalker> At least my IP's tech support is top notch
[07:41] <tom_biggy> ???
[07:42] <n8k99> amigrave: can you rephrase that into a question, please?
[07:42] <tom_biggy> ?????????????,,
[07:42] <tom_biggy> guys!
[07:43] <bubu1uk> tom_biggy: u can if u setup it in /etc/fstab
[07:43] <tom_biggy> ?
[07:43] <stdin> bubu1uk: you don't put removable devices in fstab, as the device location may change
[07:43] <tom_biggy> my etc fstab is ok, this problem appears ONLY AFTER UPGRADING to kde 3.5.5
[07:44] <n8k99> amigrave: what behavior do you want as a file manager?
[07:44] <amigrave> n8k99: see last phrase of the post : So finally, the quesion is : is it possible to have different association type for the different konqueror views.
[07:44] <Agent_bob> now i have a strange anomily   i removed getty from running on tty1  and now it seems that one can type into tty1 and the commands are stored until an openvt -fc 1  command is issued elsewhere then they are executed.      any one know anything about the kernel and console input ?
[07:44] <bubu1uk> ah, i didnt know whe speaks bout removable. ;)
[07:44] <bubu1uk> came here later. sorry. :p
[07:45] <tom_biggy> :@
[07:45] <n8k99> hmmm... amigrave: I have seen that there are differenet service menus for konqueror that allow you to alter your behaviors in lots of ways
[07:45] <tom_biggy> thank you for help
[07:45] <amigrave> n8k99: in my case, I would like that when I click on an image in file management view, the image is opened in an external viewer, but in web view it should be konqueror embeded
[07:45] <tom_biggy> i'd better get back to windows xp
[07:45] <n8k99> one sec amigrave
[07:45] <tobi__> tom_biggy: Take me with you , please
[07:45] <tom_biggy> ok
[07:46] <tobi__> A friend told me it will get better after a few weeks
[07:46] <tom_biggy> hmmm
[07:46] <tom_biggy> but how can i solve this fscking problem???
[07:46] <tom_biggy> it drives me mad!!!!!
[07:46] <tom_biggy> and i can't downgrade kde
[07:46] <wolfwalker> fscking?
[07:47] <tom_biggy> yes i don't want to swear
[07:47] <tom_biggy> ;)
[07:47] <amigrave> n8k99: but if you have never be confronted to this problem, you won't see what I mean. It's just one of the thing that annoys me and for what I use firefox instead of konqueror. But as konqueror is faster than firefox, if one day I found a solution to those problems, I'll switch again. Anyway, I don't want to loose your time more, you've helped me enough, so don't bother about this
[07:47] <wolfwalker> Firefox rocks!
[07:47] <wolfwalker> There's a reason it's slower
[07:47] <wolfwalker> It does the job better
[07:48] <n8k99> amigrave: I'm confused - you want file manager to open local files in image viewer, but not embedded in konqi - while retaining the embedded viewer for web based images?
[07:49] <n8k99> then turn off file previews under Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Manager behavior
[07:50] <rolando> hola
[07:50] <rolando> i have a problem with my xorg.conf i have several Device secions and Monitor too
[07:50] <tobi__> tom_biggy: why downgrade?
[07:50] <rolando> how can i know which is the right one?
[07:51] <amigrave> n8k99: yes exactly ! In fact, I can't stand the mix between filemanagement and webbrowsing. This is why I don't like windows's explorer, and in fact konqueror does the same. This is the only thing I don't like in kde
[07:52] <BluesKaj> it could be cuz your dhcp connection is using ipv6 , there's a fix for speeding up FF and konq by changing the settings to IPv4.
[07:52] <n8k99> amigrave:haha! that's exactly what I love about kde!!
[07:52] <rolando> or having several Device,monitor,screen,.. sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is normal?
[07:52] <BluesKaj> the fix is here : http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed
[07:53] <tom_biggy> because it doesn't work!!!!
[07:53] <tom_biggy> and i can't solve theproblem!!!
[07:55] <amigrave> n8k99: well I guess that most people want it like this, otherwise kde devs won't do this.  But I think they should let the oprtunity of "others" to do as they want. For me, local file management is one thing and web browsing is another thing.
[07:55] <n8k99> amigrave: you can use dolphin file manager
[07:55] <wolfwalker> Stupid irc didn't log it
[07:55] <wolfwalker> Okay, one more time. Would whoever told me what to type tell me again?
[07:55] <wolfwalker> I have Kubuntu on a non-internet computer
[07:55] <wolfwalker> I have downloaded Audacity as a .deb file
[07:56] <wolfwalker> What do I now do with the .deb file to install it?
[07:56] <amigrave> n8k99: dolphin file management ? Going to goole this. In fact I spent more of my time in a shell. But for file management, when I don't use mc I use krusader.
[07:57] <n8k99> amigrave: dolphin is an alternate file manager for kde
[07:57] <n8k99> it should be in the repos
[07:57] <tamacracka> Hey guys?
[07:58] <mefisto__> does anyone know anything about moto4lin?
[07:58] <wolfwalker> 'Allo tama
[07:58] <tamacracka> file:///home/tamacracker/Desktop/nicotine+-1.2.6.tar.bz2  <- how do install that file
[07:58] <tamacracka> i need to upgrade my nicotine.
[07:58] <n8k99> smoke more
[07:58] <n8k99> ;-)
[07:58] <eihnat> would suggest so. lol
[07:58] <e1> hello
[07:58] <wolfwalker> ..........
[07:58] <eihnat> + some canabis. :p
[07:58] <stdin> wolfwalker: easy way to get all the dependencies is to run (from kubuntu) "sudo apt-get --print-uris install audacity" that will print the files you need to get, then (when you d/l them and transfir them to /var/cache/apt/archives) you can just install with "sudo apt-get install audacity"
[07:59] <wolfwalker> Transfer them to what?
[07:59] <wolfwalker> How do you get them from the desktop to the /var/cache/apt/archives?
[07:59] <stdin> wolfwalker: to that directory on the linux machine
[07:59] <tamacracka> How do I install a tar.bz2 file?
[07:59] <Minataku> stdin: When I saw this pic I thought of you XD >> http://data.furaffinity.net/yolin/1161544597.yolin_chain_headshot.jpg
[08:00] <tobi__> tamacracka: is it a tar.gz ?
[08:00] <eihnat> tamacracka: u unpack it and then read README
[08:00] <stdin> tobi__: it's a tar.bz2
[08:00] <tamacracka> yeah stdin
[08:00] <stdin> Minataku: nice, but why ?
[08:00] <tamacracka> ok gonna extrct
[08:00] <tamacracka> extract*
[08:00] <Minataku> stdin: The coffee
[08:00] <Minataku> lol
[08:00] <Minataku> I thought of genii, too, but he's not here right now
[08:00] <Minataku> XD
[08:00] <Minataku> You two seem to like coffee X3
[08:01] <n8k99> coffee!?!
[08:01] <stdin> Minataku: aah, yes, the coffee :)
[08:01] <stdin> Minataku: you're making me get a craving now :P
[08:01] <Minataku> lol
[08:01] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[08:01] <mefisto__> does anyone know anything about the moto4lin program?
[08:01] <tobi__> tamacracka: extract it and use your paketmanager!
[08:01] <wolfwalker> stdin: How do you get the files to that directory? I'm used to M$'s Windows Explorer and I'm a fish out of water on linux
[08:01] <tamacracka> my packetmanager?
[08:01] <tamacracka> adept manager?
[08:02] <stdin> wolfwalker: how are you getting the audacity deb to linux?
[08:02] <wolfwalker> And btw, this time I'm saving this to Notepad so I don't have to ask you again
[08:02] <tobi__> adept package ....
[08:02] <tobi__> yes
[08:02] <wolfwalker> stdin: flash drive
[08:02] <Minataku> n8k99: Indeed, coffee
[08:02] <wolfwalker> This computer is a Windows
[08:02] <tamacracka> how would i use it?... hold onlet me read the readme
[08:02] <wolfwalker> I went to Audacity, downloaded the .deb file, got it to my Linux computer with a flash drive
[08:02] <wolfwalker> Put the file on my desktoy
[08:02] <wolfwalker> And.................. now what?
[08:03] <wolfwalker> desktop*
[08:03] <Minataku> n8k99: :o
[08:03] <eihnat> wolfwalker: have u tried dpkg command as i told u before?
[08:03] <stdin> wolfwalker: on the linux machine, mount the flash drive, then use "kdesu konqueror" and use it to copy and paste the files to /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:03] <Minataku> n8k99: The topic of coffe came up via this pic I found :: http://data.furaffinity.net/yolin/1161544597.yolin_chain_headshot.jpg
[08:03] <Minataku> lol
[08:03] <Minataku> *coffee
[08:03] <tobi__> i really don't know where to extract the files, but i think you might use the adept...
[08:03] <wolfwalker> Mount?
[08:04] <wolfwalker> And no eihnat, I came back to this computer to check my chat logs to get the command.......... and it didn't log it
[08:04] <wolfwalker> So I'm back here asking again
[08:04] <wolfwalker> And this time, I'm copying to notepad
[08:04] <tamacracka> run ./nicotine ?
[08:05] <stdin> wolfwalker: it dose it for you, when you plug in the flash drive, and it asks you what to do with it
[08:05] <wolfwalker> eihnat: So if you would repeat that dpkg command?
[08:05] <jkgruet> I've been having intermittent problems ripping CDs with kubuntu/edgy KAudioCreator & lame.  Sometimes it works fine, but other times it either (1) hangs or (2) gives an error message about an unrecognized genre.  Any idea on were to go for help?
[08:05] <wolfwalker> Ahhh
[08:05] <wolfwalker> Thanks stdin
[08:05] <n8k99> Minataku:nice
[08:05] <stdin> np :)
[08:05] <eihnat> was bubu1uk before. somehow lost connection and bubu1uk sits here. cant change nick. lol
[08:05] <wolfwalker> So eihnat, what was that dpkg command again?
[08:05] <Minataku> n8k99: Yeah :3
[08:06] <stdin> eihnat: that's why you register your nick, you can kick the "ghost" off
[08:06] <eihnat> dpkg -i packagename.deb i think.
[08:06] <ashish> hello..can ne1 pls tell me, how to install anjuta on kubuntu
[08:06] <eihnat> stdin: ok. how. cuz am registered.
[08:06] <stdin> wolfwalker: use sudo before it
[08:06] <wolfwalker> sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb?
[08:06] <eihnat> wolfwalker: yes
[08:06] <wolfwalker> With packagename the full package name?
[08:07] <eihnat> yes
[08:07] <stdin> eihnat: /msg NickServ RECOVER NickName Password
[08:07] <stdin> eihnat: then /msg NickServ RELEASE NickName Password
[08:07] <ashish> hello..can anyone pls tell me, how to install anjuta on kubuntu
[08:07] <stdin> eihnat: /nick NickName
[08:07] <ashish> helllo
[08:07] <tamacracka> python setup.py install --prefix=<dir>?
[08:08] <wolfwalker> So the full command would be sudo dpkg -i audacity_1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:08] <bubu1uk> test
[08:08] <stdin> wolfwalker: that's right
[08:08] <wolfwalker> I TRIED that!
[08:08] <stdin> bubu1uk: well done :)
[08:08] <wolfwalker> It just didn't do anything
[08:08] <ashish> i get an error
[08:08] <bubu1uk> ah, ok. thanx stdin. am not really familiar with irc. lol
[08:08] <tamacracka> do i need to type this, to install the updated nicontine: python setup.py install --prefix=<dir>
[08:08] <wolfwalker> Although I don't know linux worth squat, I do know a bit about IRC
[08:08] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: no error output?
[08:08] <stdin> bubu1uk: '/msg NickServ help' is a good place to start :)
[08:08] <wolfwalker> What's the question?
[08:09] <ashish> hello..can anyone pls tell me, how to install anjuta on kubuntu
[08:09] <asaf> use package maneger
[08:09] <tamacracka> how?!
[08:09] <tamacracka> what do you mean ><
[08:09] <ashish> or is there ne other c/c++ compiler(leaving gcc/g++)
[08:09] <mefisto__> wolfwalker: try right-click on the deb file, then Kubuntu Package menu > Install Package
[08:09] <wolfwalker> tama, I'm in the same boat
[08:09] <tamacracka> package manager doesnt see the file.
[08:09] <ashish> k..
[08:09] <casev01> hi
[08:10] <tamacracka> i have the file on my desktop
[08:10] <wolfwalker> Well I'm off to try this
[08:10] <wolfwalker> Again
[08:10] <casev01> someone know a good howto of apt-build?
[08:10] <wolfwalker> And maybe get it right this time
[08:10] <wolfwalker> Thanks for the help folks
[08:10] <wolfwalker> I'll be back with more annoying newbie questions later
[08:10] <wolfwalker> :/
[08:10] <ashish> i am waiting
[08:10] <tamacracka> screw it im goin with: python setup.py install --prefix=/home/tamacracker/.nicotine
[08:10] <n8k99> ashish cmake
[08:11] <ashish> yes
[08:11] <stdin> ashish: enable universe then install it with adept, you can also use kdevelop (the KDE version)
[08:11] <tamacracka> where are all the old skool people at :(
[08:11] <tamacracka> they're were quick and helpful
[08:11] <Edulix> hi
[08:11] <stdin> tamacracka: what are you trying to install ?
[08:12] <tamacracka> nicotine.. i downloaded a tarball file
[08:12] <Edulix> how can I configure konqueror (the filemanager) to use the tree view by default?
[08:12] <stdin> tamacracka: and you don't want the one from ubuntu why?
[08:12] <tamacracka> file:///home/tamacracker/Desktop/Wutang/nicotine+-1.2.6.tar.bz2
[08:12] <tamacracka> what do you mean i dont want one from ubuntu?!?!
[08:13] <tamacracka> the one in adept
[08:13] <tamacracka> is old.
[08:13] <tamacracka> very old.
[08:13] <tamacracka> no longer works.
[08:13] <dave_s> Edulix you should be able to do it by setting up konqueror as you want it to appear
[08:13] <Edulix> dave_s: how exactly?
[08:13] <mefisto__> Edulix: in konq, go to Settings, File Associations, inode, directory