[03:16] <zubuntu> i have an external hard drive and i formatted it from NTFS to ext3, now the drive belongs to root, and i don't have permission to read or write the drive how do i change the permissions?
[03:16] <Mdance86> no i havnt
[03:16] <Mdance86> i will try that now
[03:17] <cleaton> >>
[03:17] <giami> i was willing to load the livecd to do fresh install, but i can't get any signal with the pci-e nvidia gforce 8600. (just a blank screen).  so i'm left with onboard working and pci-e card is detected but not configured.
[03:17] <tcpdumpgod> w00t
[03:17] <cleaton> then you haven't started the install process
[03:17] <nickrud> mEck0, sudo aptitude install  build-essential   linux-headers-$(uname -r)   , and it should build
[03:17] <TeslaDave> Mdance what kind of machine do you have, if its old like really old you may have problems with graphics
[03:17] <mEck0> nickrud, thx!
[03:18] <zubuntu> how do i change the owner of an external hard drive from root to a regular user?
[03:18] <Mdance86> it is very old... i built it years ago
[03:18] <Mdance86> 750 mhz... 312ish ram
[03:18] <Mdance86> windows 98
[03:18] <Mdance86> so no particular company built it
[03:18] <Mdance86> geforce 2 card
[03:18] <cleaton> should work well =)
[03:18] <Skiessi> giami if you install it, you can configure it later to use the other pci-e card, I think
[03:18] <DIL_> linux ROCKS!!!
[03:19] <Skiessi> *the pci-e card
[03:19] <speeddemon8803> Thanks dil_ we think so too ;)
[03:19] <deostroll> hanez: no it didn't work. Getting the same error
[03:19] <TeslaDave> Mdance, i would suggest try running the live CD and instead of choosing the install option, try the running live option and see if it works first
[03:19] <giami> skiessi -> ya its installed and booted with onboard right now.  lspci detects the card but i am getting trouble configuring it.
[03:19] <speeddemon8803> !linux
[03:19] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:19] <giami> Skiessi - i had restricted drivers in use.
[03:20] <giami> before i poped the card in.  i was able to use nvidia-settings .
[03:20] <TeslaDave> Mdance, because if its an older machine you may have many other issues
[03:20] <cleaton> TeslaDave, on the live cd there is just the live option i think
[03:20] <cleaton> TeslaDave, you need the alternate cd for graphical installation
[03:20] <Mdance86> Tesla, it does same thing
[03:21] <Mdance86> hdc: drive not ready for command
[03:21] <deostroll> Can any1 help I am getting a sudo error.
[03:21] <Mdance86> im assuming it means the hard drive
[03:21] <PanzerMKZ> cleaton last time I checked on tha alt install cd does NOT have gui installer
[03:21] <Riotblade> OMG PurpZeY, it works, no desync
[03:21] <TeslaDave> cleaton I believe if you download the standard install CD, that you can run live or choose to install, or  it boots into gnome live and you click on an install icon
[03:21] <Riotblade> tyty
[03:22] <TeslaDave> cleaton i can't quite remember now you maybe correct
[03:22] <beerfan> Is there an audio option to disable speaker output when headphones are plugged into the front output (on my desktop computer)?
[03:22] <Condoulo> does anybody in here use uStream?
[03:22] <cleaton> PanzerMKZ, oh sorry i missed the non
[03:22] <Skiessi> giami you got my pms?
[03:22] <giami> no Skiessi
[03:22] <Skiessi> o.o
[03:23] <giami> ahh
[03:23] <giami> hello moto
[03:23] <Skiessi> have you tried displayconfig-gtk?
[03:23] <PanzerMKZ> cleaton no worries mate. The alt cd is great for me when installing many machines.
[03:23] <TeslaDave> Mdance, it might not like your harddrive
[03:23] <cleaton> same here =)
[03:23] <giami> Skiessi - no.
[03:23] <Mdance86> it probobly doesnt
[03:23] <Mdance86> ok well
[03:23] <nickrud> Mdance86, what was the exact error again?
[03:24] <giami> Skiessi -> let me register my nick so i can send msgs
[03:24] <TeslaDave> Mdance did you check the disk for errors, the install cd i mean
[03:24] <Mdance86> it gave a bunch of random numbers ex: [524.998756] hdc: drive not ready for command
[03:24] <Mdance86> no i didnt
[03:24] <Skiessi> ok
[03:24] <nickrud> Mdance86, that sounds like the cdrom, usually hda is the hard drive
[03:24] <zero88> WOW is there some kind of bug with Firefox and Ubufox. I am unable to uninstall ubufox. The uninstall button is ghosted . please help
[03:24] <Mdance86> mm
[03:24] <beerfan> my integrated audio has a windows driver which disables the rear audio output when headphones are plugged into the front output. Is it possible to duplicate this in gnome?
[03:25] <schwepps> is there a good graphical backup program? one which lets you choose exactly what files you want to backup.
[03:25] <Mdance86> well i have two cd drives... i guess i can try the other to boot up the cd
[03:25] <nickrud> schwepps, sbackup is a nice simple backup program
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> hd is a hard drive
[03:25] <nickrud> Mdance86, and try putting any old cd in the other one
[03:25] <TeslaDave> nickrud, could it be that MDance's CD isn't burnt correctly
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> no if's ands or buts about that.
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> hda hdb hda1 hdb1 hda2 all hard drives
[03:26] <schwepps> nickrud, thanks, looks good
[03:26] <zubuntu> how do i change the owner of an external hard drive from root to a regular user?
[03:26] <nickrud> TeslaDave, I've seen that error before, it's usually a hardware interrupt error. Sometimes just sticking a cd in clears it
[03:26] <RenatoSilva> Why does my Beryl doesn't work on Gutsy? Specifically, the window decorator: neither Emerald nor GTK
[03:26] <nixnoob> zubuntu chmod
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> !beryl
[03:26] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[03:27] <speeddemon8803> !compiz
[03:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:27] <nickrud> speeddemon8803, hda is ide0 drive 0, hdb is ide0 drive 1 , hdc is ide1 drive 0 , hdd is ide drive 1. CD, Harddrive, irrelevant
[03:27] <Skiessi> !info nvidia-glx-new
[03:27] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[03:27] <Mdance86> ok so hda... what do i do about the error?
[03:27] <Skiessi> what's the 'new' driver?
[03:28] <Mdance86> does it not load quick enough?
[03:28] <Mdance86> should i load
[03:28] <Mdance86> ide0 first?
[03:28] <TeslaDave> nickrud do you know anything about X forwarding through ssh
[03:28] <speeddemon8803> nickrud isnt that what i stated in so many words?
[03:28] <RenatoSilva> speeddemon8803: well, what should I do then?
[03:28] <nickrud> Mdance86, try unplugging the ide1 drive 0 cdrom
[03:28] <Mdance86> ok
[03:28] <nickrud> speeddemon8803, last I saw, a harddrive wasn't a cdrom.
[03:28] <nixnoob> RenatoSilva, remove beryl and install compiz-fusion
[03:29] <Mdance86> however im assuming thats my main cd drive...
[03:29] <Mdance86> and it may not boot from the other dive
[03:29] <Mdance86> drive*
[03:29] <Mdance86> or i might be retarded
[03:29] <nickrud> Mdance86, yeah, some older cdroms don't support booting
[03:29] <Szeraax> Anyone know of any .vfd floppy images of the grub loader?
[03:30] <nickrud> Mdance86, but that's what I'd do, try just one cdrom in the system at a time. Hopefully one will work
[03:31] <Groovestix> hey folks! here's an easy question. How can I make my Xubuntu not go to sleep (turn off monitor after period of time)?
[03:31] <Mdance86> ok trying that now
[03:31] <RenatoSilva> nixternal: this package does not exist
[03:32] <TeslaDave> Having problems getting X to forward when I ssh into my machine
[03:32] <RenatoSilva> nixternal: compiz-fusion-plugins is only what I've got
[03:32] <RenatoSilva> nixternal: -extra & -main
[03:32] <nickrud> Mdance86, but not to forget what TeslaDave said about the burnt cd, run the disk check as well
[03:32] <nickrud> TeslaDave, very little about X forwarding, I'm a single machine at a time type
[03:33] <Ongaku> hey guys, happy new year, does anyone know where i can get a demo or a full version of the original unreal tournament?
[03:33] <Ongaku> my computer is junk itś the only one i can play lol
[03:33] <beerfan> Ongaku: this is not a warez channel
[03:33] <nickrud> Groovestix, you should be able to set that at system->prefs->screensaver , power options button
[03:33] <Ongaku> i just want a demo
[03:33] <TeslaDave> nickrud, just trying to iron out the kinks with remotely connecting to my home machine from work
[03:33] <Ongaku> god knows if the original would run on this
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> beerfan that isnt a warez question or topic..didnt ask for it in an illegal form that i saw.
[03:34] <CrevilO> anyone know of a fool-proof way to get host networking working for virtualbox under gutsy yet?
[03:34] <nickrud> TeslaDave, be sure it's port forwarded on the router. I do ssh back and forth, but no X forwarding
[03:34] <beerfan> speeddemon8803: he asked for the "full version"
[03:34] <Ongaku> i figured the original UT would be a free full download these days
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> and....
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> you can buy...the full version
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> online
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> legally
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> :)
[03:34] <RenatoSilva> I uwas using Beryl on Feisty and now it doesn't work correctly, and Gutsy doesn't enable effects for my video card. What should I do?
[03:34] <Soskel> HELP!!!!
[03:34] <PMantis> Hi guys! I was trying to add a VPN connection to network manager, and it crashed. I cannot get nm-applet to open at all now. What directory holds my personal VPN account settings for NM?
[03:35] <Ongaku> yah heh a demo would be cool, i can´t find a linux demo download
[03:35] <TeslaDave> nickrud, i can ssh with no problem but getting the x no, could my isp be blocking something
[03:35] <Soskel> a windows box pops up when I load from a livecd!!!!!
[03:35] <Soskel> someone help
[03:35] <backgen> hey does anyone in here have any experience with playing EVE online, on Gutsy?
[03:35] <RenatoSilva> I was using Beryl on Feisty and now it doesn't work correctly, and Gutsy doesn't enable effects for my video card. What should I do?
[03:36] <Mdance86> It seems like it could be working.. i will update u in a bit
[03:36] <nickrud> TeslaDave, I do remember something about ForwardX11 in /etc/ssh/ssh_config or some file like that
[03:36] <backgen> Soskel: what do you mean a windows box
[03:36] <mixed> Is there an ubuntu version for audio?
[03:36] <nickrud> mixed, audio? you mean like an audio mixing studio?
[03:36] <Soskel> backgen: a windows with the blue title bar, and the windows progress bar poped up
[03:36] <jdh6403> god there are a LOT of programs availible for linux   i could spend all night in add remove programs
[03:37] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, what video card are you running gutsy on?
[03:37] <Soskel> backgen: please, it was awful, please help
[03:37] <Groovestix> nickrud: I can't seem to find the
[03:37] <beerfan> mixed: ubuntustudio.org
[03:37] <nickrud> jdh6403, and that just touches the surface of what's available, try looking around in system->admin->synaptic
[03:37] <TeslaDave> nickrud, i know what your refering too, i set the options as yes,  do you know of a chat channel to speak with some x gurus
[03:37] <Groovestix> nickrud: I can't seem to find the "power options" button
[03:37] <PMantis> Soskel: Are you sure you booted from an Ubuntu live CD ??
[03:37] <PurpZeY> Not to mention anything that can also compiled
[03:38] <nickrud> TeslaDave, no, I sure don't
[03:38] <owen1> kill doesn't kill the process. any ideas?
[03:38] <PurpZeY> owen1: If kill -9 doesn't kill it, it may be a zombie
[03:38] <PMantis> owen1: try kill -9
[03:38] <nickrud> Groovestix, system->prefs->screensaver  power management button, sorry
[03:38] <Soskel> PMantis: haha yes, I booted from the livecd, and when everything was loading, a windows box poped up and aid something about unpacking a pernal
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it worked before, but not now
[03:38] <Soskel> *kernal
[03:38] <Groovestix> nickrud: alright, let me finish rebooting, brb
[03:39] <quinton_> I recently installed ubuntu with a fresh install and I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 speakers. help will be very thankfull!
[03:39] <PMantis> Soskel: heh
[03:39] <PurpZeY> Soskel: You have to install first, then setup everything. LiveCD is a test run.
[03:39] <mixed> beerfan, thanks i'll go give it a look see
[03:39] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, worked on gutsy before, you mean?
[03:39] <owen1> PMantis: ok. going to try.
[03:39] <PMantis> Soskel: Is that after you choose "Install or run linux" from the menu?
[03:39] <Soskel> PMantis and PurpZeY I know I know, but why did the windows box pop up?
[03:39] <TeslaDave> IS anyone in the room expierienced with X forwarding ssh?
[03:39] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: somenone told me I shouldn't install beryl because there is compiz-fusion, but this package doesn't exist and don't know what is supposed to do exactly
[03:39] <PurpZeY> Soskel: Windows box?
[03:39] <wers> how do I merge two audio tracks?
[03:39] <Soskel> PMantis: after I choose to run it I think
[03:39] <wers> can I do that with audacity?
[03:39] <Soskel> PurpZeY: a windows themed popup msg box
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: It just looks windows themed I imagine.
[03:40] <quinton_> I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 logitech speakers! help will be very thankfull.
[03:40] <Soskel> yea
[03:40] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, are you running gutsy, or feisty now? And What video card exactly are you using? Useful questions, answers will point to solutions (maybe)
[03:40] <PMantis> Soskel: That box has nothing to do with windows whatsever... that's just a graphical progress bar for loading the linux kernel int memory.
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: You'll double-click install from the liveCD
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: worked absolutely fine on Feisty, but on Gutsy the decorator doesn't work, besides of what someone told me about such compiz-fusion
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: It will look like a bunch of windows type GUI stuff -- it isn't.
[03:40] <Soskel> PMantis: right, but why did mark shuttleworth choose that gui?!?!?
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: To the "untrained" eye...My Ubuntu box might as well be windows.
[03:40] <owen1> PMantis: PurpZeY : kill with -9 returns  'no such process'
[03:40] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, I'd like to help, but if you choose not to be helped ....
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it's not absolutelly a problem of my video card
[03:40] <Soskel> PurpZeY: why windows? why not mac themed?
[03:41] <PurpZeY> Soskel: You can theme it later
[03:41] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: beryl is dead. Gutsy installs compiz by default, if your video card can handle it.
[03:41] <PurpZeY> owen1: Are you sure the process is still running?
[03:41] <PMantis> owen1: I guess it closed then?
[03:41] <TeslaDave> RenatoSilva Compiz-Fusion is the new beryl
[03:41] <Soskel> PurpZeY: I know, I know, but I want to know why the kernel people choose a windows themed msg box
[03:41] <quinton_> I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 speakers please help! thanks!
[03:42] <PurpZeY> Soskel: "The Kernel People" do not exist. Mark Shuttleworth developed Ubuntu with a team of other people. They probably picked that format b/c it is most common to other people.
[03:42] <wers> I have a minus one track and a vocal track. how can I merge them?
[03:42] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: well, but my video card supported both compiz and beryl on feisty and I was happy. Why don't now?????
[03:42] <wers> can I do that with audacity?
[03:42] <Soskel> PurpZeY: the kernel people do exist, they live in the netherlands and eat horse raddish
[03:42] <tuxxxinator> haha
[03:42]  * PMantis will BRB
[03:42]  * PurpZeY rolls his eyes
[03:42] <nickrud> lol, kernel people are corn eaters, not horseradish
[03:42] <RenatoSilva> TeslaDave: I'm not finding this package on Gutsy repos! Only compiz-fuision-plugins-extra/main!!!!!!
[03:43] <Soskel> ok ok, thank you for the help PurpZeY
[03:43] <PurpZeY> Soskel: No worries. Good luck with "The Kernel People"
[03:43] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: what makes you think it isn't? Did you enable desktop effects when you installed gutsy?
[03:43] <Soskel> haha thanks
[03:43] <crdlb> RenatoSilva: there is no 'compiz-fusion' package, don't worry about it
[03:43] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: answer
[03:43] <mixed> beerfan, ubuntustudio is an ubunto distro, right?  meaning it is not a suite that runs on ubuntu but rather a distro in itself
[03:43] <TeslaDave> RenatoSilva, ibeliev its allready included in gusty
[03:43] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If your card is supported all you have to do is turn on compiz-fusion
[03:43] <beerfan> mixed: it's an ubuntu based distro, not associated with canonical
[03:44] <owen1> PurpZeY: PMantis : it's a ruby app(site) that i run from ctrl+F2. i think it created 2 processes - instiki and ruby. I manualy killed the instiki but the site is still alive so i am trying to kill the ruby process.
[03:44] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and if you have certain video cards, you have a couple of extra steps. What video card do you have?
[03:44] <joshritger> does anyone know if there is a maximum size for the splash screen while ubuntu loads?
[03:44] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: Oh god! Yes, I did! It tells me effects couldn't be applied, only that
[03:44] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If it appears your card isn't working properly....Then what you need to do is configure it properly.
[03:44] <TeslaDave> PurpZey can u refresh my memory on how to turn on compiz-fusion
[03:44] <mixed> beerfan, thanks!  I'm installing it right now, there's a few appz that won't even run on my SuSE distro, i'm going to give ubuntu a try
[03:44] <quinton_> I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 speakers please help! thanks!
[03:44] <PurpZeY> TeslaDave: System --> Pref --> Compiz
[03:44] <PurpZeY> TeslaDave: If you don't have that choice you'll need to install the CCSM compiz settings manager
[03:45] <nickrud> TeslaDave, system->prefs->appearance, effects tab (gutsy)
[03:45] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  you mean to say you have front sound. but not the rear?
[03:45]  * PurpZeY is in feisty still. . .
[03:45] <TeslaDave> Purpnickrud then select Extra effects?
[03:45] <mixed> anyone knows if ubuntu is good at recognizing new hardware?  SuSE 10.2 doesn't recognize my video, sound, and network card, SuSE 10.3 works just fine, problem is a lot of software doesn't work on SuSE 10.3, I finally caved in and today I'm going to give ubuntu a try
[03:45] <quinton_> dr_willis, Actually I think its only coming from one speaker.
[03:46] <nickrud> me laughs a t PurpZeY , but only a little bit :)
[03:46] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Feisty + Video Card = Hapiness. Gutsy + Video Card =  I'm stupid?
[03:46] <speeddemon8803> Mixed, ubuntu is great at that :)
[03:46] <TeslaDave> nickrud, then select extra effects right, or am i missing an option
[03:46] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Sounds like you are running into a problem w/ the restricted drivers/nvidia/ati issue
[03:46] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  for my Audigy card. to get mp3's and stuff out the rear. i have to twiddle with the sliders in the alsamixer tool.
[03:46] <speeddemon8803> it recognizes everything i threw at it so far :P
[03:46] <beerfan> mixed: depends what hardware and how new
[03:46] <chao1> does anyone know how to get the multimedia preview feature working in 7.10? I have mpg321 mpg123 and vorbistools installed
[03:46] <quinton_> dr_willis, I turned all of them all the way up... no difference.
[03:46] <Skiessi> :o multimedia preview?
[03:46] <nickrud> TeslaDave, yes.  And to get the custom configuration button, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:46] <PurpZeY> nickrud: If it ain't broke...:)
[03:47] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  whats your sound card anyway?
[03:47] <NavArrow> RenatoSilva, wat's the prob
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: sounds like BUG!
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY:  Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[03:47] <quinton_> dr_willis, Soundblaster like 4 years old...
[03:47] <Skiessi> chaol: you mean that you point at some audio file and it starts playing?
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I never needed restricted drivers
[03:47] <PurpZeY> NavArrow: He/she upgraded and Gutsy will not allow the new card to run compiz-fusion
[03:47] <chao1> yes the preview
[03:47] <mixed> speeddemon, if that's the case and software actually works on ubuntu I'll probably switch to ubuntu, I really like SuSE but I can't even get Quake to work right on my new machine, quake was working just fine on my expired PIII running SuSE 10.2
[03:47] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: You don't need restricted drivers for an intel card
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: read log
[03:47] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Are you sure the card is working properly?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  audigy? or live? use the alsamixer, or alsamixergui tool. and be sure to look to the right side.. theres a LOT of sliders :) let mesee if i can figure out what onei normally use
[03:48] <TeslaDave> thanks all
[03:48] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: are you sure you're LISTENING tom me?
[03:48] <quinton_> dr_willis, I did slide it over to discover more and turned them up too.
[03:48] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I came in the middle and I am trying to help you. Are you positive that Ubuntu is recognizing the card incorrectly?
[03:49] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Feisty + Card = Hapiness.  2) I will ask again, ARE YOU SURE GUTSY IS NOT RECOGNIZING THE CARD?
[03:49] <chao1> I had it working when I upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04 but some things didnt work so I reinstalled. Now the multimedia preview doesnt work
[03:49] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: There's NO problem with Video Card, except something about Gutsy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:49] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:49]  * PurpZeY is done helping
[03:50] <NavArrow> ege
[03:50] <NavArrow> ehehehhe
[03:50] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: perhaps you should go back to feisty then. Hardware detection for compiz has improved and some video cards were blacklisted which don't work well.
[03:50] <PurpZeY> Maybe someone else wants to be yelled at.
[03:50] <Dr_willis> quicksilver_,  i also rember if using the Digital out - i had to enable that. BUT this was all for the front/rear. If you have Just one side. of the front going.. I would almost have to say check the wires.
[03:50] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, thats an intel 965 graphics chip, right?
[03:50] <quinton_> dr_willis, it says my card is an intel ICH5
[03:50] <NavArrow> eheh
[03:51] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: really? So updates are supposed to address this?
[03:51] <crush_groove> bbl
[03:51] <chao1> Does anyone know how to get the mulitmedia preview (mp3) working
[03:51] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, would you like a workaround or not?
[03:51] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: updates? No update can fix video card deficiencies so they blacklisted those which can't work well.
[03:51] <Fony> When I create a swap Drive. Do I make it Primary or Logical? and does it matter if I place the partition at the end or in the start?
[03:51] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[03:52] <Fony> Swap Partition*
[03:52] <undertakingyou> chao1: use gconf editor and set /desktop/gnome/sound/enable_esd to TRUE.
[03:52] <dfcarney> Fony:shouldn't matter, linux doesn't really care
[03:52] <Fony> oh.. k
[03:52] <damaltor> 95
[03:52] <dfcarney> Fony: sometimes it's better to put it at the beginning as it'll reduce disk access time
[03:52] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: WHY DOES Feisty have NO PROBLEM with it THEN?????
[03:52] <dfcarney> Fony: but disks are so fast nowadays (often with SCSI-like controllers) so i don't know if that's an issue any more
[03:53] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: Beryl works fine, only decorator don't
[03:53] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: I couldn't tell you. I didn't program beryl. Go back to feisty if it works for you.
[03:53] <chrometiger> anyone know of any really good  video editing software for nix   besides cinderella ?
[03:53] <telee> are there any sound drivers i can download so i can customize my THX surround sound?
[03:53] <quinton_> dr_willis, I really do not want to rush, but me and my girl are wanting to watch this movie I have recently got... and the sounds not working out well enough.
[03:53] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: your suggestion is stupid. thank you
[03:53] <Fony> I see dfcarney. Thank you for your answers :)
[03:53] <dfcarney> Fony: no problem :)
[03:53] <undertakingyou> chrometiger: Cinelerra is supposed to be good.
[03:53] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Several people are trying to help you, you are being rude to all of us
[03:53] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: alt+f2 and enter emerald --replace
[03:54] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: what is supposed to do?
[03:54] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, try running in a terminal   SKIP-CHECKS=yes compiz
[03:54] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: I'm being serious. I got Beryl working on my old laptop which has a radeon with 32mb of video ram, but it was crap. They blacklist cards which can sorta work but don't really.
[03:54] <Dr_willis> quicksilver_,  Well if its not a actual soundblaster card. I dont know. If its not a actual 5.1 surround sound source..   there maybe some tweaks you need to do to get it to clone front and rear.
[03:54] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: get decorator working?
[03:54] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: yes
[03:54] <chrometiger> it is but,  not at all user friendly,  little hard to figure out where everything is when you've never seen it before
[03:55] <iamtooawesome> Are DVDs of TV shows encrypted differently from regular movie DVDs?  Because I can't seem to mount them.
[03:55] <stunatra> chrometiger, and neither was Windows when you first tried it.
[03:55] <PurpZeY> iamtooawesome: I have no idea, and that's probably off topic. Unless you need the DVD Libs.
[03:55] <Vorian> !multimedia > iamtooawesome see the pm from ubotu
[03:55] <Dingbat> Just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 -- enabeled visual effects ... where can I find the hotkeys or controls to switch between different view modes (ie: 3d cube for instance)
[03:55] <chrometiger> good point haha
[03:55] <jones> Where is the best place to discuss wireless router hardware? i have a few questions and am not sure what channel to go to.... thanks
[03:55] <iCEifer> hello all, can anyone tell me how I can determine the amount of video mem available to my video card that linux has access to?
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: I have to reinstall , wait
[03:55] <telee> is there any program i can get that will allow me to customize my speaker settings 5.1 surround sound ?
[03:55] <PurpZeY> Dingbat: Install the CCSM from synaptic.
[03:56] <PurpZeY> Dingbat: Compiz-control settings manager...Then you can play with all of the key bindings
[03:56] <stunatra> chrometiger, Linux/Ubuntu is not harder than Windows, it's just different.
[03:56] <chrometiger> i didn't say linux was,   just cinderella
[03:56] <Vorian> Dingbat: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:56] <PurpZeY> Or do it that way.
[03:56] <Vorian> ;-)
[03:56] <Dingbat> Thanks.
[03:57] <Vorian> Dingbat: then you will be able to access it in a few ways
[03:57] <dings> Does anyone here know of any plans for putting zope2.10.4 in gutsy-backports?
[03:57] <ponty> i'm trying tunnel vncviewer through ssh and need some help at the command line
[03:58] <nickrud> iCEifer, try   grep -i sdram /var/log/Xorg.0.log  , if you don't get an answer substitute  sgram for sdram , should work for you
[03:58] <dings> ponty: ssh -D 8080 and tsocks?
[03:58] <Miksago> hey, has anyone had any trouble with networking after upgrade to Gutsy?
[03:59] <AngryElf> how do I make my .bash_history last a lot longer?  however long it is right now isn't long enough
[03:59] <dings> ponty: or just -X is I missunderstood what you where saying :)
[03:59] <Vorian> !anyone | Miksago
[03:59] <ubotu> Miksago: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:00] <ponty> dings: ssh -L 5900:remoteserver:5900 user@remoteserver
[04:00] <ponty> gets me this: bind: Address already in use
[04:00] <ponty> channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 5900
[04:00] <ponty> Could not request local forwarding.
[04:00] <WorkingOnWise> iCEifer: I use sudo hwinfo --framebuffer. the video ram is listed near the top.
[04:00] <formolQ1> hello
[04:00] <nickrud> AngryElf,  set HISTFILESIZE=<number of lines> in ~/.bash_profile , 500 is the default
[04:01] <Vorian> hi formolQ1
[04:01] <Miksago> Vorian: orright. I'm using dhcp, i've recently installed 7.04 (breezy?) and then done a system upgrade to Gutsy
[04:01] <formolQ1> someone know what is the command to know witch webcam chipset i've?  (thosiba laptop....) , thank you
[04:01] <WorkingOnWise> anyone know how to give my nvidia Geforce Go 6100 built in video cpu more system ram? theres no setting in the bios for it.
[04:01] <jones> hey all i have a few questions regarding the linksys wrt54g and dd-wrt. what is the best place to talk about this. is there a dd-wrt irc out there?    thanks
[04:01] <Vorian> Miksago: what is your trouble?
[04:01] <spiker611> Hello, I have a Canon MP610 on my server, gutsy 2.6.22-14-generic, which stopped working suddently (it is on automatic update though..).  lpstat -p -d returns "Unable to open USB port device file: Permission denied"  Help?
[04:02] <Miksago> well, the network card worked fine in breezy, because i used update manager to upgrade. now in gutsy it doesn't work
[04:02] <Vorian> what card?
[04:02] <Miksago> Vorian: ^^
[04:02] <Miksago> it's an integrated Gigabyte
[04:02] <Miksago> it's on board the motherboard
[04:03] <forevertheuni> hello ..I try rec -t alsa default out.wav and rec -t alsa dsnoop:0 out.wav..and my microphone still don't capture a thing to a file
[04:03] <Ongaku> ok i have a file that is a tar.gz and it´s not the type you have to compile, how do you install it?
[04:03] <Miksago> forevertheuni: does your mic work
[04:03] <Miksago> ?
[04:04] <Miksago> Ongaku: hm... tried extracting it?
[04:04] <iCEifer> thanks.
[04:04] <nickrud> Miksago, 7.04 is feisty by the way, you'll confuse people no end if you call it breezy :)
[04:04] <pearlbear> suggestions on a CD install: I'm using the text based (alternative CD image) and at the "Install the base system" stage, I'm getting a lot of corrupted files. But I verified my burn, and actually tried burning from two different burners.
[04:04] <Ongaku> miksago: yah, its the original Unreal Tournament demo if that helps
[04:04] <mindframe_> will grub boot from an xfs root partition?
[04:04] <Miksago> nickrud: i wasn't sure, hence the question makr
[04:04] <Miksago> *mark
[04:04] <forevertheuni> Miksago, yes mic works
[04:04] <mindframe_> *as long as i set a separate boot partition as ext3...
[04:04] <riotkittie> WorkingOnWise: *can* it use system ram ? if so, uhmm, back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then open a termintal and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. you can specify ram on like the second or third screen in, iirc
[04:05] <Miksago> Ongaku: hmm.. i'd try extracting the file..
[04:05] <Ongaku> miksago: ok
[04:05] <forevertheuni> if I set to hear microphone in speakers I can here it
[04:05] <forevertheuni> hear*
[04:05] <Miksago> forevertheuni: okay.. is the mic volume turned up, and what recording program are you using?
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: nothing happens
[04:05] <fotoflo> i have locked my root password -- does anyone have a link for information about unlocking it?
[04:06] <fotoflo> will booting into single user mode from grub work in ubuntu?
[04:06] <Miksago> yereth: are you everywhere?
[04:06] <Ongaku> miksago: ok it extracts and it just has the files like textures sound etc...how do i run it?
[04:06] <Miksago> hmm...
[04:06] <Miksago> not sure
[04:06] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: you may want to check with the kindly people in #ubuntu-effects then
[04:06] <Miksago> i don't do much in the games stuff...
[04:06] <forevertheuni> Miksago, volume and micboost are ok
[04:07] <forevertheuni> capture is set to microphone in alsamixer
[04:07] <forevertheuni> i'm using rec
[04:07] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, try running in a terminal   SKIP-CHECKS=yes compiz
[04:07] <forevertheuni> but I tried ekiga openwengo..no sucess
[04:07] <Ongaku> miksago: lol the one game i can play on linux with no emulators and i cant play it haha...i cant figure it out
[04:07] <ce_moet> haii max
[04:07] <Miksago> i haven't had any experience with rec. but i hAVE WITH AUDACITY
[04:07] <Miksago> meep. caps pwn
[04:07] <Ongaku> the only tar.gz files i had to deal with were ones you have to compile...
[04:08] <riotkittie> ok. let's talk wireless usb adapters \o/. anyone have an opinion on rt73? is it better than rt2570, in terms of working with the open driver? :T
[04:08] <Miksago> Ongaku: is there a executable?
[04:08] <forevertheuni> ok i'll try audacity
[04:08] <Miksago> (by permissions)
[04:08] <Ongaku> miksago: no i dont see one :?
[04:08] <Miksago> hmm.. not sure the Ongaku
[04:08] <forevertheuni> Miksago, I need to capture with dsnoop:0
[04:08] <Miksago> *not sure then
[04:08]  * nickrud wonders why people keep trying to use chipsets that aren't well supported ;)
[04:09] <Ongaku> miksago: oh you mean in the properties run as executable? i didnt try that yet
[04:09] <Miksago> nickrud: how do you mean?
[04:09] <Miksago> Ongaku: yeah
[04:09] <nickrud> Miksago, different person, sorry
[04:09] <forevertheuni> Miksago, u use it with alsa right?
[04:09] <Ongaku> miksago: no it doesnt run like that it just opens the archive of the demo
[04:09] <gotenks> how do i lower desktop resolution?
[04:09] <ce_moet> yeahhh
[04:10] <nickrud> gotenks, you should be able to do that with system->prefs->screen resolution
[04:10] <gotenks> i'm using wine to run an old app... and it requires 256
[04:10] <gotenks> i mean color depth not res sry nickrud
[04:10] <riotkittie> nickrud: i went for the ralink because the ubuntu hw wiki was all like "ralink yay. open drivers, gpl'ed blah blah blah"
[04:10] <riotkittie> :P
[04:11] <nickrud> gotenks, you'd need to write a bit in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf , it you'll put it up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org I'll show the additions
[04:11] <nickrud> gotenks, my laptop battery is about to die, brb
[04:11] <gotenks> uh-oh...
[04:11] <gotenks> ok
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: nothing happens
[04:11] <WorkingOnWise> does mount know that my partition is reiser4 is i tell it reiserfs? man mount doesnt show anything for mounting a reiser4 file system.
[04:11] <gotenks> btw, i can't get my ubuntu desktop onine...
[04:12] <gotenks> different story
[04:12] <nickrud> gotenks, got it plugged in before it auto hibernated :)
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> My compiz says: Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2972' found. Why?????????
[04:12] <forevertheuni> does audacity uses alsa or oss?
[04:12] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist , has to do with playing video's in compiz (your chipset issue)
[04:12] <FrozenData> I can't get ilw3945 to work after sleep or hibernation, tried rmmod and modprobe. Still no luck, any help?
[04:12] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: because it was blacklisted.  please do try to restrain yourself.
[04:13] <Miksago> forevertheuni: i don't think it's dependent as it works on windows as well
[04:13] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: restrain?
[04:13] <Miksago> so would anyone know about network issues with dhcp, windows server 2000 and Gutsy?
[04:13] <backgen> Has anyone here managed to install and run EVE online on Gutsy Gibbon succesfully?
[04:13] <forevertheuni> Miksago, it can work with both
[04:13] <AngryElf> nickrud: if i dont have a .bash_profile should I just create it and add that line?
[04:14] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: in short, the developers found something about that card that is not desirable with compiz, so untill they are able to work it out, they decided to save users headache by just saying "it dont work right" rather than letting u try for days and finding out "it dont work right"
[04:14] <nickrud> AngryElf, you should have one, it's created automatically for each user
[04:14] <FrozenData> Help?
[04:15] <AngryElf> nickrud: k, well i dont :)
[04:15] <riotkittie> in ubuntu, you get a .profile but no .bash_profile
[04:15] <AngryElf> bash_history, bash_logout, bashrc
[04:15] <riotkittie> at least  from what ive seen
[04:15] <gotenx> yay i back
[04:16] <AngryElf> k, i've got a .profile -- but there's no HISTFILESIZE in it
[04:16] <nickrud> AngryElf, yes, you'd create one.  I
[04:16] <nickrud> 've put mine up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50459/ , the home bin stuff is custom, but useful
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: It DID WORKED for 6! monthns on Feisty!
[04:16] <WorkingOnWise> Shouldn't this "/dev/sda4 /home/wowhome reiserfs notail 0 1" in fstab mount my reiser4 partition?
[04:17] <Miksago> nickrud: would yuo know anything about dhcp issues in Gutsy?
[04:17] <zenrium> I used to use autoit and autohotkey for emulating key and mouse in windblows... is there an equiv for ubuntu?
[04:17] <gotenx> nickrud, i would have to type my entire conf into that pastebin if you need it
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: but I understand, though what is did was breaking ME.
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: was did
[04:17] <nickrud> AngryElf, yes, it has a default if not set. if you do man bash, then   /bash_history   (searches for that string) you'll end up right in the explanation of how it works
[04:17] <gotenx> my ubuntu desktop isn't connected to the internet
[04:18] <nickrud> Miksago, no, I sure don't. I've always used a static ip until gutsy, when networkmanager started running it right for me
[04:18] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: compiz SKIP_CHECKS=yes doesn't work
[04:18] <Miksago> nickrud: kk
[04:18] <gotenx> nickrud i'm seeing dept in section screen... gotta edit that i take it?
[04:18] <Miksago> i think there's a forum thread on it.. but i can't find it
[04:18] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, that's not what I wrote, the skip-checks comes first
[04:18] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it says command not found
[04:18] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: in fiesty it was Beryl, in Gutsy it is compiz-fusion. The projects merged. For the most part, it was a good thing, but there were some casualties, like your video card being blacklisted. U can go back to Beryl. #compiz-fusion is a much better place for your issue I would imagine.
[04:19] <landspite> anyone know why I wouldn't be able to ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:19] <landspite> the lo adapter is up according to ifconfig.
[04:19] <NavArrow> iptables?
[04:19] <NavArrow> iptables -L..
[04:19] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, if the instructions on that page I gave you aren't working, then you definitely need to talk on #compiz-fusion
[04:19] <landspite> nah not used.
[04:20] <zenrium> icmp is turned off on the interface?
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I'M ON Beryl!
[04:20] <landspite> doubt it...
[04:20] <nickrud> ARRRGH! RenatoSilva you told us gutsy!
[04:20] <landspite> where do you configure if icmp is enabled on the adapter?
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: SKIP_CHECKS is NOT a command in any way
[04:20] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: really? hmmm....gutsy doesnt have beryl in Any repos....
[04:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it's like an argument to compiz or like a system variable setting
[04:21] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, no it's not it's a shell variable that gets passed to the compiz command
[04:21] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: at least not any Ubuntu supported repos
[04:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: Gutsy? Yes, I'm on it
[04:21] <bmt2> hello to all.....when I turn on Ubuntu ....what is the screen called that I see when the Ubuntu logo i shown ?
[04:21] <bmt2> is that the usplash ?
[04:21] <landspite> took it down brought it up and it's fine now
[04:21] <landspite> weird....
[04:22] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: so, are u using compiz, compiz-fusion, or beryl?
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: bash sees it as a command
[04:22] <beerfan> bmt2: before the login screen? yeah, usplash
[04:22] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, then like I said, if the instructions on http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist are not working (I'd think that since it's the official compiz-fusion wiki the instructions are good) you need to tell the people in #compiz-fusion
[04:22] <bmt2> beerfan: thanks.....how can i change the usplash, and the login screen ?
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I'll explain ALL for you from beginning
[04:23] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: not if he's using beryl...
[04:23] <beerfan> bmt2: try installing startupmanager
[04:23] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, where would he get beryl for gutsy?
[04:23] <bmt2> beerfan: can i just do : sudo apt-get install startupmanager ?
[04:23] <FrozenData> Anyone with good knowledge of wi-fi?
[04:23] <beerfan> bmt2: yeah, that's the packagename
[04:23] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....  I'm using restricted drivers on an HP DV6500.
[04:23] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: afaik, u can still dl the debs from the project site....
[04:24] <bmt2> beerfan: thanks...let me try that.....
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: Once upon a time ME using Feisty with Beryl. Thousand of visual effects. I was HAPPY.
[04:24] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, oh, doh. That'd be a fiasco
[04:24] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: yupers
[04:24] <riotkittie> sigh.
[04:24] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: ok....
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: Gutsy raises. I think about upgrading obviously. Obnviously.
[04:25] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: uh huh....
[04:25] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, so maybe we both should take a deep breath, and start over. Did you add beryl to gutsy?
[04:25] <wolf4914> How do I make opera recognize flashplugin?
[04:25] <wolf4914> keeps sayng I need to install  and it is installed
[04:25] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: he's gonna catch me up...
[04:26] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: Hum? Gutsy's CDs doesn't allow upgrade, only alternative CD. As I'm on a DIALED (!) connection, I couldn't upgrade from internet. What does all this mean?? That I have to re-install Ubuntu from scratch!!!
[04:26] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know how to rip dvds? or is that taboo topic?
[04:26] <FrozenData> godzirra, I had the similar problem, thats was resolved wjhen I shifted to iwl3945, but now wi-fi stops working when I come back from sleep hibernation, until system reboot.
[04:26]  * nickrud goes back to re reading brust
[04:27] <beerfan> mkquist: !medibuntu
[04:27] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: well, I cant answer that till I know if u are using beryl still or compiz-fusion, which is part of the upgrade from feisty to gutsy.
[04:27] <mkquist> beefan -i think i c ty
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I did it yesterday. Hum, but Ubuntu's brown is ugly. And desktop effects doesn't work so that I can't even SEE if it could do THE SAME STUFF Beryl did on Feisty
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: so....
[04:28] <Ashfire908> how do i get the ablity to play encrypted dvds?
[04:28] <PurpZeY> !dvd | Ashfire908
[04:28] <ubotu> Ashfire908: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:28] <mkquist> beerfan - they have a channel too?
[04:28] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I catch my APTonCD and installed Beryl. But there are 2 problems:
[04:28] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: go to synaptic, search for compiz. tell me what u find that is installed.
[04:28] <nickrud> Ashfire908, go here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-381bea41610683e5e26322fd7028e7aef85e3105 , and install the libdvdcss that matches your architecture
[04:28] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 1) Decorator doesn't work, neither GTK nor Emerald
[04:28] <beerfan> mkquist: please see the dvd thing above
[04:28] <jdh6403> is there a way to have different background art on each workspace?
[04:29] <PurpZeY> jdh6403: Not that I know of
[04:29] <jdh6403> darn
[04:29] <mkquist> beerfan - got it ty
[04:29] <Ashfire908> i installed libdvdcss
[04:29] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 2) Someone told me compiz-fusion is the new Beryl, but this package doesn't exist on Gutsy.
[04:29] <forevertheuni> Miksago, ..oh well
[04:29] <luis_> anyone know what programe in Ubuntu will play .MID?
[04:29] <forevertheuni> I can capture with dnsoop now
[04:29] <forevertheuni> and hw:0,0
[04:30] <forevertheuni> but dnsoop has sound with breaks
[04:30] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: untill we are clear on what composit system u are using, it just isn't possible to answer. Go find out for sure, on your system. it's the only way to stop all this guessing and get to a solution, ok?
[04:30] <forevertheuni> I wanted that "default" could capture sound
[04:30] <nickrud> Ashfire908, invoke vlc in a terminal, then try playing the dvd. You should get some output about decryption
[04:30] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: BERYL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:30] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: can I PM u?
[04:30] <PurpZeY> /notice WorkingOnWise This guy has been doing this for over an hour, people try to help, he just gets annoyed and is not helpful in return...fyi
[04:30] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, sure
[04:30] <PurpZeY> WorkingOnWise: k?
[04:31] <Ashfire908> nickrud, the package vlc-nox is not installed
[04:31] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: APTonCD?? Do you know? I've got Bery from a backup, not official repos!
[04:31] <godzirra> FrozenData: that sucks... oh well.. where can I read up on that?
[04:31] <WorkingOnWise> PurpZeY: k
[04:31] <godzirra> FrozenData: cause I don't hibernate my laptop often.
[04:31] <nickrud> Ashfire908, you are not running X?
[04:31] <luis_> anyone know what programe in Ubuntu will play .MID?
[04:31] <beerfan> luis_: what format is that? midi?
[04:32] <luis_> yeah, think so beerfan
[04:32] <beerfan> luis_: if vlc won't play it, I don't know
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: how did you help me?
[04:32] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, first thing: installing beryl from feisty is not something that will work
[04:32] <FrozenData> godzirra, uhmm, I've a Dell D630, I could give you that link, the process should be the same.
[04:32] <luis_> vlc, hmm, does that come installed in Ubuntu already?
[04:32] <Ashfire908> nickrud, i am running X11 unless somehow my gui is not running on X
[04:32] <beerfan> luis_: not by default no
[04:32] <NavArrow> RenatoSilva, use google
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: why?
[04:32] <luis_> damn...
[04:32] <godzirra> FrozenData: that would be much appreciataed.
[04:32] <godzirra> -a
[04:32] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I didn't, and as far as I can tell no one else can.
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: no
[04:32] <FrozenData> godzirra, http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/ipw3945_Wireless_Network_Module_Issues
[04:33] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, because beryl is not supported in gutsy.
[04:33] <godzirra> Thanks.  i'll read up tomorrow and see if I can get it to work.
[04:33] <NavArrow> right
[04:33] <nickrud> Ashex, lol.  Install vlc  then.
[04:33] <godzirra> well that s simple.
[04:33] <godzirra> ok, i'll screw with it tomorrow.  Thanks man.
[04:33] <joseph> ubuntu pownz me
[04:33] <joseph> god I love it
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: so the package should not be installable don't? or is it a misundertanding?
[04:33] <FrozenData> godzirra, if you find a workaround for the hibernation thing, do send me a mail with the workaround.
[04:34] <NavArrow> RenatoSilva, hemerald
[04:34] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, that is something you have to get your head around, beryl is a dead project and not used anymore. compiz-fusion (referred to as compiz in ubuntu) is it's replacement.
[04:34] <mEck0> Hi! I wonder which xrandr-command I can use to detect and use dual monitor (laptop lcd + external TFT) "on-the-fly" without needing to restart X?
[04:34] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: ?
[04:34] <NavArrow> emerald sry
[04:34] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, so you have to simply forget about beryl, and learn how to use compiz
[04:34] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: what about it?
[04:34] <matholum> hello, i have a quick noob question if you guys don't mind... how do i change the documents folder to a different folder on another partition?
[04:35] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: compiz-fusion is not a package, but the effects tab on standard menu???
[04:35] <luis_> anyone know how to get VLC on Ubuntu?
[04:35] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: compiz-fusion is several packages
[04:35] <NavArrow> http://www.google.it and as nickrud says learn about compiz
[04:35] <luis_> !vlc
[04:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[04:35] <Ashfire908> nickrud,  it's installing.... totem played the dvd (i think) but with no video.
[04:35] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, did you read what I wrote? at all?
[04:35] <beerfan> matholum: you *could* delete Documents and create a symbolic link to the remote one with ln -s target dest
[04:35] <jdh6403> synaptic then search for vlc
[04:35] <Scunizi> luis_: sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:36] <nickrud> Ashfire908, are you running compiz?
[04:36] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: where is compiz-fusion?
[04:36] <luis_> woot, danke!
[04:36] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: It's in synaptic or the repos
[04:36] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: please go and check...see for yourself now, what is installed. I know u think it is beryl, and it may well be. compiz-fusion and beryl both use emerald and gtk for windo decorations, so that isnt an indicator. Please just go into synaptic and search for compiz.....I could tll u how to fix your problem in beryl and it wont matter if u are not still using beryl...
[04:36] <Scunizi> bitter
[04:36] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: how to install? Or that menu = it?
[04:36] <matholum> beerfan> would that link to it in the plases menu and everything though?
[04:36] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Go into synaptic, as WorkingOnWise, has asked, and search for compiz and see what is it installed
[04:36] <matholum> **places
[04:37] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 'compiz' is the package. In this case, I go to Appearance > Effects > "Could not enable" (blacklisted card since Gutsy). Then I go to beryl-manager+emerald > decorator doesn't work
[04:38] <beerfan> matholum: everything will still look for it at ~/Documents ...this isn't necessarily the ideal solution but without knowing what or why you'd want to do this I can't suggest anything else
[04:38] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: WorkingOnWise: 'compiz' is the package. In this case, I go to Appearance > Effects > "Could not enable" (blacklisted card since Gutsy). Then I go to beryl-manager+emerald > decorator doesn't work
[04:38] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: That is b/c beryl is not designed to work in gutsy. Gutsy == Gnome 2. Beryl == Feisty == Gnome 1
[04:38] <Ashfire908> nickrud, nope. my system has the black window bug and indirect-rendering leads to the windows not drawing themselves...
[04:38] <Malik_> how do u program on linux?
[04:38] <matholum> beerfan> lol, my goal is to have the same documents folder in windows and ubuntu
[04:38] <Malik_> do u need to know c++ and all
[04:39] <PurpZeY> Malik_: There are several languages
[04:39] <Malik_> i heard u donot need to know any
[04:39] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I want to understand if compiz-fusion is the stuff installed by default (effects tab) or if I have to install additional package
[04:39] <nickrud> Ashfire908, ah, then I have no answer to that bug ....
[04:39] <PurpZeY> Malik_: BASH, is simple scripts that will run as commands, python. . .
[04:39] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: It is installed by default.
[04:39] <Malik_> liek cmd
[04:39] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Except for CCSM
[04:39] <beerfan> matholum: this solution would work. Just "ln -s /media/sdaX ~/Documents"
[04:39] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Simple CLI is simple to get the basics, but a life time to master
[04:40] <Malik_> o
[04:40] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: it's installed by default, you need only install the ccsm the configuration manager and enable glx wth your vid card.
[04:40] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: what does replace beryl-manager and emerald?
[04:40] <Malik_> and i got a few other questiosn to
[04:40] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: eh?
[04:40] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: CCSM = ?
[04:40] <matholum> beerfan> alright... lemme try it real qwik ^_^
[04:40] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: CCSM is Compiz-Config Manager, the GUI settings for extra-effects and settings
[04:40] <Malik_> i didn;t get linux yet but wat do u say should i put it on my good computer thta u use for school work or my suky computer
[04:40] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: yes, ccsm.
[04:41] <nickrud> Malik_, your suky computer, if the other is mission critical :)
[04:41] <Ashfire908> nickrud, it's installing...
[04:41] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva:  another good channel for compiz is #ubuntu-effects
[04:41] <Malik_> and on linux will i hav a lot of problems
[04:41] <Malik_> would i be able to go to the internet and browse the web?
[04:41] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Absolutely.
[04:42] <Malik_> and download things like intenet expolorer
[04:42] <nickrud> Ashfire908, when you start talking about rendering bugs, you're getting out of my league, sorry
[04:42] <Malik_> and office 2007
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: emerald is valid still? Will Emerald themes for Beryl work on compiz-fusion?
[04:42] <PurpZeY> Malik_: All of that will come quickly. You will not have Office 2007, you'd have OpenOffice, it's equivalent.
[04:42] <beerfan> Malik_: Ubuntu doesn't need all that. It comes with alternatives.
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> Scunizi: thank you
[04:42] <brittney-> i have had ubuntu lock up on me a couple times now... and everything freezes, you can't click anything, but the mouse will move
[04:42] <brittney-> has anyone else seen this problem?
[04:42] <Scunizi> Malik_: forget IE in Linux. as well as office 07
[04:42] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Emerald is still a theme manager, but I believe it's been upgraded.
[04:42] <nickrud> Malik_, built in alternatives, you don't pay for them :)
[04:42] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: np
[04:43] <Malik_> i donot pay for office 2007 jus download
[04:43] <Malik_> so y can't i hav it?
[04:43] <Malik_> not compatiable?
[04:43] <Scunizi> Malik_: doesn't matter if it's free. it won't work
[04:43] <nickrud> Malik_, yes.
[04:43] <matholum> beerfan> now i have a shortcut to the new folder inside of the old
[04:43] <beerfan> Malik_: office is windows software
[04:43] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: so I could try it to get the same feisty appearance?
[04:43] <NDAKOTA> .
[04:43] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You might be able to run it, under wine, a windows emulator....but OpenOffice is just exactly the same.
[04:43] <Ashfire908> nickrud, black window bug makes all the windows' content area stuff to be black. indirect rednereing does something weird in x and after awhile you have to resize windows to make them refresh
[04:43] <Malik_> so i can run it?
[04:43] <nickrud> not 2007, although I've heard of 2003 working
[04:43] <ekim|linux> hey
[04:43] <Malik_> o man
[04:43] <beerfan> matholum: you need to rename or delete the Documents folder first and then create the symlink in your home dir
[04:43] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If you have that theme, yes, it would seem, yes to me.
[04:44] <ekim|linux> I use the gnome remote-desktop capplet for vnc right
[04:44] <Malik_> and y can apple run it and not linux
[04:44] <Malik_> i mean mac*
[04:44] <NDAKOTA> anyone know of any good laptop for software development?
[04:44] <ekim|linux> how can I change the arguments that the vncserver uses ?
[04:44] <PurpZeY> Malik_: But it doesn't matter b/c OpenOffice will use all of the windows doc and mac formats
[04:44] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva:  My advice is this: 1) research first and find out for sure if your video card works with compiz-fusion. 2)remove Everything for both beryl And compiz-fusion. Everything. 3) Install compiz-fusion if you card works with it, and beryl if it doesnt. If u use beryl, there will be unknown problems because Ubuntu isn't activly supporting beryl and u will need to go to the beryl forums for good help. If u are able to u
[04:44] <matholum> beerfan> alright
[04:44] <nickrud> Ashfire908, ah, so it's beatable. Me, I've got really simple issues, like ati
[04:44] <jdh6403> cuz microsoft makes a version for apple  thats why
[04:44] <ekim|linux> I need to change the geometry to 1024x768
[04:44] <Malik_> o
[04:44] <Ashfire908> nickrud, what's it do?
[04:44] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: so the problem now is how to make Gutsy accept my video card as Feisty did.
[04:44] <PurpZeY> Malik_: All of the formats will be readable and editable by OpenOffice.
[04:44] <NDAKOTA> anyone knows any good laptops for software development?
[04:45] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I tried to help you with that issue over an hour ago and you told me I wasn't listening
[04:45] <jdh6403> yes  open office is just a better app Malik_
[04:45] <Malik_> but wat about ll the oter things
[04:45] <nickrud> Ashfire908, until recently didn't work properly with compiz, allow suspend, crappy slow speed. Getting better, and much faster than I'd hoped
[04:45] <Malik_> like i will hav to look around for alternittives all the time
[04:45] <Scunizi> NDAKOTA: that means compiling.. intel core 2 duo
[04:45] <Ashfire908> nickrud, are you sure it's vlc?
[04:45] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You won't have to go looking for them. . .
[04:45] <nickrud> Ashfire908, it's the most capable dvd player
[04:45] <Ashfire908> nickrud, it's just a video player
[04:45] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way to modprobe the kernel for reiser4 support, or do I have to compile my own?
[04:45] <Malik_> but i will hav to get them........
[04:45] <jdh6403> Malik_: if office 2007 can do it   so can open office  and with less intrusive hassles
[04:45] <NDAKOTA> Scunizi, is core 2 duo any faster than pentium M at the same clock speed
[04:45] <PurpZeY> Malik_: For 99% of what you need, they will be right in front of you, just click install and poof
[04:46] <Malik_> from where
[04:46] <beerfan> Ashfire908: vlc is the most capable video player. It knows all formats. or damn near
[04:46] <Malik_> install from where!
[04:46] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 1) it was blavcklisted since Gutsy without any explanation for the end user, like:  'effects could not be enabled becasue in this version your video card is no longer supported'
[04:46] <Malik_> its not gunna be that simple
[04:46] <nickrud> Ashfire908, so if that encrypted dvd is playable, it will play it. There's a new dvd encryption out (used on rush hour 3 for example) that hasn't been added to libdvdcss yet
[04:46] <Malik_> linux is said ti such a hassel
[04:46] <Ashfire908> so no totem using?
[04:46] <Scunizi> NDAKOTA: yep.. and uses less power.. it's the newest.. look at dell vostro for lower prices
[04:46] <PurpZeY> Malik_: They come from the repositories, through three ways...1) Synaptic, which is a tool for downloading programs, 2) Add/Remove programs, or 3) Using CLI
[04:46] <ekim|linux> also...how can I get hibernate to work on my laptop
[04:47] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: blacklisted in compiz-fusion?
[04:47] <ekim|linux> is there a page on that somewhere ?
[04:47] <Ashfire908> nickrud, this is M:i:III
[04:47] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, have you looked at the link I gave you? It has the reason ....
[04:47] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: or beryl on gutsy?
[04:47] <matholum> beerfan> it seems to work, but do i have to refresh anything or restart? it isn't in the places bar yet and openoffice got mad at it
[04:47] <Malik_> how come micrsoft didn't sue linuc for open office
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: the command I ran was 'compiz', then it tells me about blacklisting
[04:47] <beerfan> matholum: you may need to log out or kill nautilus
[04:47] <PurpZeY> Malik_: B/C there's nothing illegal
[04:47] <Malik_> wat bout the office how is that leegal
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: ?
[04:47] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Please see the link nickrud gave
[04:47] <WorkingOnWise> Malik_: lololol.....nothing to sue for...
[04:47] <matholum> beerfan> thanks alot ^_^
[04:47] <Scunizi> Malik_: it's entirely different code.
[04:48] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Microsoft has the word Office trademarked?
[04:48] <jdh6403> lol
[04:48] <Malik_> yea kinda
[04:48] <PurpZeY> Yeah kind -- no
[04:48] <beerfan> PurpZeY: why not? they trademarked the word "windows"
[04:48] <Malik_> but wat about the gamming probelmm
[04:48] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: user should be noticed. Instead, it only says: "Could not enable effects because don't" (just like on Windows)
[04:48] <Malik_> i heard u can't play gameso n linux
[04:48] <Ashfire908> you can't trademark a common word, right?
[04:48] <Malik_> do they mean liek internet games or like those ocmputer games
[04:48] <PurpZeY> beerfan: Want a real legal analysis, I am in law school just finished an entire semester of software law
[04:49] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist <-- third time I've given you this link
[04:49] <nickrud> maybe 4th
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it should say: "This version of ubuntu does not support your video card anymore"
[04:49] <Ashfire908> they trademarked "Microsoft Windows"?
[04:49] <maxlinux> hi
[04:49] <maxlinux>  all
[04:49] <Scunizi> Malik_: games exist.. and some good  ones.. not many commercial games.  they are designed for  windows only in most cases
[04:49] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: then it sounds like your only options are go back to beryl fully, or use neither and wait till compiz-fusion is able to play with your card....bummer choices I know.....
[04:49] <beerfan> Malik_: some games can be played on Wine. Some games have a native linux version.
[04:49] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Some games designed for windows won't run in Ubuntu...Some can and will, there are lists available and there are good games that are available.
[04:49] <matholum> another question for you guys... i am putting ubuntu on another computer and i tried a few boot options but i can't see the ubuntu splash screen or progress bar and it takes a long time to load. It is a toshiba satellite w/ an ati card
[04:49] <Beetle121> Hey guys...I've been using Ubuntu for less than 24 hours and I'm starting to get used to the idea of packages and so forth. I'd like to know where is the best place to get information on third party repositories ?
[04:49] <PurpZeY> Beetle121: I'd add third party repos as needed
[04:50] <Malik_> how much percent will?
[04:50] <Malik_> with wine included
[04:50] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, but it does. Don't put your issues on everyone else. If you would take the time to listen, then think about what you've been told, you would have been enjoying the effects a half hour ago
[04:50] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Check the wine website. . .
[04:50] <Malik_> and wat is wine a software and emulatory or wat
[04:50] <Malik_> wine is a microsoft emulator for linux....lol j/k
[04:50] <beerfan> wine is a windows compatibility layer for linux
[04:50] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Wine is a program that will allow you to run windows software in a linux environment.
[04:50] <kaatil> window is not emulator.
[04:50] <Scunizi> Beetle121: don't go there yet. you might bork  your system.. check synaptic and make sure  universe and multiverse  are activated.. you can also check www.getdeb.net
[04:50] <Beetle121> Purpzey I need to find a p2p program or will I need to install it myself?
[04:50] <kaatil> hence 'wine'
[04:50] <PurpZeY> Beetle121: Frostwire
[04:51] <maxlinux> every video i wanna watch is kinda wrecked. either in vlc or totem .  with wrecked i mean , the video runs but the top of the video is cut and on the bottom there is nothing
[04:51] <maxlinux> who knows why
[04:51] <Ashfire908> nickrud, wow vlc is packed with features
[04:51] <Malik_> wat about online games...will those work
[04:51] <nickrud> Ashfire908, yup.
[04:51] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: Change the output to x11
[04:51] <maxlinux> what do you mean
[04:51] <Beetle121> Thanks for the help:)
[04:51] <maxlinux> im a newbie
[04:51] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Any game that works, will work online
[04:51] <Malik_> i mean liek internet games
[04:52] <maxlinux> output to x11?
[04:52] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: Using VLC/
[04:52] <RoxanneEDM> hey guys, im gonna wipe my laptop, and install fresh.... and words of wisdom? im going to take my whole HOME folder, and back it up on a external drive...anything else?,
[04:52] <beerfan> Malik_: you'll have to research each game individually. Some do, and some don't.
[04:52] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Flash games do....
[04:52] <Malik_> o
[04:52] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Java games do
[04:52] <Scunizi> Malik_: you mean like Unreal tournament  2004, tremulous, open arena etc.. yes
[04:52] <Malik_> yea
[04:52] <Malik_> lol
[04:52] <beerfan> Malik_: WoW, for example, runs fine on linux
[04:52] <PurpZeY> Malik_: WoW
[04:52] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: y do u need to reinstall?
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it does?
[04:52] <n0cturna1_> trying to do a "net ads join -U<EMAIL_ADDRESS>getting the error: Failed to join domain: The connection was refused.. any ideas? kinit gives me a ticket, just can't join..
[04:53] <Malik_> so wats better mac or linux i know windows is out
[04:53] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, that page tells you how to skip over the blacklisting
[04:53] <PurpZeY> !best | Malik_
[04:53] <ubotu> Malik_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[04:53] <maxlinux> in which options i can change that ?
[04:53] <maxlinux> purpzey?
[04:53] <RoxanneEDM> WorkingOnWise:  i installed Ubuntu, then added kubuntu, than mythbuntu.. i just want everything cleaned up
[04:53] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'm on my computer reading its message, and you're not here to see anything. And you want to tell me that it tells me a thing that I'm saying it doesn't? Is that?
[04:54] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: I am not positive. I know you need to turn on advanced options...and it's near output...nickrud might know for positives...to change video out to x11.
[04:54] <Scunizi> Malik_: linux if you already have a pc you want to use, mac if you have money to burn.. both have options just more in linux
[04:54] <Malik_> aren;t those bots
[04:54] <maxlinux> ive only found input
[04:54] <RoxanneEDM> i want it to act like it did when it was a fresh install... nice and quick
[04:54] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, no, I've seen that message. I skipped the blacklist, using that page I gave you.
[04:54] <Ashfire908> Malik_, a bot in there has a popularity list think
[04:54] <Ashfire908> *thing
[04:54] <Malik_> iam rich but i want linux
[04:54] <Ashfire908> Malik_, then get linux.
[04:54] <Scunizi> Malik_: then get linux
[04:54] <Malik_> do u think linux makes ppl look all cool and stuff?
[04:54] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: I know there is an option somewhere. . .I am sorry, I just don't remember where it is, ask in the chan, I know someone will know
[04:54] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: HOW MANY TIMES I have to tell you that Bash (do you know what's it?) inperpret that variable setting as a COMMAND!
[04:54] <maxlinux> WOW DUDE PURPZEY IT WORKS
[04:54] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: lol...I do that a bunch! why not just remove what u dont want with synaptic? seems easier....
[04:54] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I feel super cool.
[04:55] <Malik_> that cube thing is jus to awsome
[04:55] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I am the coolest kid in law school
[04:55] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: Sweet.
[04:55] <maxlinux> and what about totem and stuff? ill need to set it up all single?
[04:55] <Malik_> wat age is appropriate for linuc
[04:55] <maxlinux> thx again apprechiate your help
[04:55]  * Scunizi is beginning to think Malik_ is just egging us on.
[04:55] <Malik_> purpzey LOL!
[04:55] <Ashfire908> Malik_, any
[04:55] <matholum> sorry to pawn this off on you guys, but any ideas on why i can't see the ubuntu load bar and have the long load time?
[04:55] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: I think it is limited to VLC. . .I might be wrong on that
[04:55] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, then you are typing it wrong. It's a well known technique in bash to set an evironment variable for an app. I've used it hundreds of times in other situations as well.
[04:55] <RoxanneEDM> WorkingOnWise:  i did, but it leaves things in the "start menu"(whatever its called on here), and the opening splash screen is Mythbuntu
[04:55] <beerfan> Malik_: well, the OLPC is designed for children ;-)
[04:55] <Malik_> lol
[04:55] <Ashfire908> Malik_, linux makes you more nerdy/geeky
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: SO it doesn't say what you said it says, huh! I would never know what was happening if I didn't knew IRC
[04:56] <Malik_> i wanan be that!
[04:56] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It makes me sexy, girls ask me all the time "Do you use linux b/c if you don't I'm leaving?"
[04:56] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, for example,  COLUMNS=255 dpkg -l
[04:56] <PurpZeY> Then they say, what's that smell.
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'm typing it wrong?
[04:56] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: ah....well, the home folder is all I ever back up.
[04:56] <Malik_> iam good with the ladiies but i also liek being smart and geeky
[04:56] <RoxanneEDM> thank you WorkingOnWise
[04:56] <Scunizi> Malik_: linux makes you wise, insightfull, trustworthy of yourself, adventurous, inquisitive and many more adjatives
[04:57] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Using linux is a learning experience, you can't necessarily expect that poof you'll learn it...But if you want to learn and you just fool around, you will.
[04:57] <nownot> running into a problem when streaming off my server im on 10/100 but when streaming hd video im getting around 333KBs and the video lags etc.. wondering if it may have to do with drivers or something like that
[04:57] <WorkingOnWise> PurpZeY: u have that too?  :)
[04:57]  * PurpZeY grins
[04:57] <Malik_> yea but sometimes u jus wanan giv up
[04:57] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, I just ran it here:    SKIP_CHECKS=yes  compiz   and it works.
[04:57] <Malik_> like i gav up on c++
[04:57] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I am failing to see the actual question here.
[04:57] <jdh6403> lol
[04:58] <Malik_> well the atucallcal question is
[04:58] <jdh6403> it is a question wrapped in a riddle wrapped in gooey cheese
[04:58] <Malik_> wat r the requirments fo rit
[04:58] <PurpZeY> or beryl?
[04:58] <Malik_> liek ram and all?
[04:58] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Very low.
[04:58] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Especially if run xubuntu
[04:58] <jdh6403> malik  versions of linux can run on an ipod
[04:58] <RoxanneEDM> i have another question guys, i want to turn this older PC into a box my 5 year old can use, does anyone know of some kid friendly software?
[04:58] <Ashfire908> Malik_, ubuntu's got python preinstalled, so you can give up on something outher than ubuntu
[04:58] <Malik_> lol ywa i know
[04:58] <Malik_> can make it in to video
[04:58] <PurpZeY> jdh6403: A toaster....
[04:59] <jdh6403> that too
[04:59] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Make what?
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: maybe  used *Y*es
[04:59] <Malik_> a ipod thats not video in to a video 1
[04:59] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I don't think that's on topic.
[04:59] <beerfan> Malik_: Linux runs on just about anything and does just about anything. The level of determination required is what is variable.
[04:59] <Ashfire908> Malik_, 256 MB (for "ubuntu", xubuntu is 128MB) , 2.1 GB, no real cpu requirment
[04:59] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Some guys ran linux on a toaster
[04:59] <jdh6403> lol
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: now the problems is to find a manager. ccsm doesn't exist
[05:00] <n0cturna1_> trying to do a "net ads join -U<EMAIL_ADDRESS>getting the error: Failed to join domain: The connection was refused.. any ideas? kinit gives me a ticket, just can't join..
[05:00] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: CCSM isn't default, you gotta install it
[05:00] <jdh6403> thats why the flying toasters screensaver exists no doubt
[05:00] <PurpZeY> jdh6403: I mean recently...google it
[05:00] <Malik_> wat
[05:00] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: lol... I just ran SKIP_CHECKS=yes  compiz, and it kicked off a bunch of stuff in the terminal...then crashed the decorator! hehe
[05:00] <Malik_> wat  do u mean on a toaster
[05:00] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager , it'll be in the prefs under advanced
[05:00] <jdh6403> i have seen it
[05:00] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: synaptic doesn't have it listed as ccsm but it's there...
[05:00] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, ah, bad idea to run it when it's already running :)
[05:00] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: see nickrud s post for the right name
[05:00] <jdh6403> i used to have an xbox that had linux on it
[05:01] <jdh6403> made a damn fine puter
[05:01] <RoxanneEDM> does anyone not set up linux boxes for thier children to play on ?
[05:01] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: hehe...yeah. but now re again verify that it IS a valid command on a properly setup machine. :)
[05:01] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and as the page I gave you said, you can make the skip checks permanent by editing that .config file
[05:01] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Some really geeky guys installed linux on a toaster...the point is, system requirements are quite low
[05:01] <Scunizi> RoxanneEDM: I dual boot my kids
[05:01] <jdh6403> RoxanneEDM: i have several proggys for my nephew to play with
[05:02] <Malik_> lol
[05:02] <beerfan> RoxanneEDM: I do not, because I have no children. I suspect many people do not.
[05:02]  * PurpZeY thinks that nickrud has the patience of a patron saint
[05:02] <Ashfire908> i got a xbox. i have yet to attempt to install linux on it.
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> Your here...so aparently its working correctly....or are you on a different pc landspite?
[05:02] <RoxanneEDM> thanks for the info beerfan...
[05:02] <Scunizi> beerfan: that they know of  anyway :)
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> lol...dang
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> oh wel
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> my computer is LAGGED
[05:02] <RoxanneEDM> jdh6403:  what do you have ?
[05:02] <jdh6403> that tux paint proggy is brilloiant and my nephew wont leave it alone
[05:02] <nickrud> PurpZeY, more like an arrogant certainty that I can teach anyone ;P
[05:02] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: I have set up a few linux boxes for kids....
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> heh, good deal jdh :)
[05:03] <RoxanneEDM> i seen one little suite that is in synaptic
[05:03] <PurpZeY> Malik_: What are you worried about losing?
[05:03] <Malik_> time
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> Scunizi: thank you
[05:03] <nownot> no ideas on slow streaming from ubuntu box
[05:03] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Stop yammering here and isntall.
[05:03] <jdh6403> my puter was originally a fast as hell puter preinstalled with vista...vista sucked ass (it seems to be the new ME) and i switched to ubuntu
[05:03] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: np
[05:04] <Malik_> lool ....ty
[05:04] <Malik_> thats wat i was lookin for
[05:04] <PurpZeY> Malik_: If you have a problem with the install or whatever, come here we help
[05:04] <beerfan> Malik_: have you booted the live cd? No time lost on that man
[05:04] <Malik_> wat
[05:04] <PurpZeY> Malik_: beerfan makes a good point
[05:04] <Malik_> wats r u guys sayin?
[05:04] <jdh6403> RoxanneEDM: holla at me if you wanna chat or need help
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: i edited on file
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: If you burn the CD of the website, it is a liveCD, you can boot into Ubuntu and take a test run without any risk
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You just have to change your boot order in BIOS to get it to boot
[05:05] <Malik_> o a test run
[05:05] <Malik_> o
[05:05] <Malik_> cool
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: my old theme is working. Now I just have to make windows become soft
[05:05] <Malik_> so doest the test run giv all the features...lol
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: That is the regular install cd...Called a LiveCD.
[05:05] <Ashfire908> how useful is webmin if you already know your way around a server?
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It will, but it will not save anything permanently and installing software is iffy
[05:06] <Malik_> so far i downloaded ubunutu from the site and am gunna buurn it
[05:06] <Ashfire908> Malik_, the LiveCD lacks a few things
[05:06] <Scunizi> Ashfire908: sounds like you already answered your own question
[05:06] <Malik_> o
[05:06] <Ashfire908> Malik_, yes you burn it to a disk
[05:06] <Malik_> y not a floppy
[05:06] <Malik_> or a usb flash
[05:06] <Scunizi> Malik_: slowly
[05:06] <jdh6403> lmao floppy
[05:06] <Malik_> y can;t we burn it there
[05:06] <PurpZeY> Malik_: The entire operating system is on the disk
[05:06] <beerfan> Ashfire908: what does it lack?  Thanks.
[05:08] <Malik_> wat about hd
[05:08] <macksting> I'll try that right about now.
[05:08] <Scunizi> Malik_: lol  would y ou install a hd while its on?
[05:08] <beerfan> Malik_: linux doesn't stop working if you change hardware, unlike windows
[05:08] <jdh6403> how do i register
[05:09] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You can add an HD, but not change out the one the O/S is installed to
[05:09] <Clearzen> Malik_: Do you have a hot swappable raid setup?
[05:09] <Malik_> wat?
[05:09] <RoxanneEDM> how do i register my nick
[05:09] <Clearzen> nvm
[05:09] <riotkittie> RoxanneEDM: /msg nickserv help register
[05:09] <crazee_canuck> jdh6403, /msg nickserv register password
[05:09] <soldats>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:09] <nickrud> !register | RoxanneEDM
[05:09] <ubotu> RoxanneEDM: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:09] <Ashfire908> Malik_, you would need to copy all the data from one diver to another
[05:09] <Malik_> so id i want mroe ram do i hav to take out my previous
[05:10] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Unless, you are just adding a drive
[05:10] <Malik_> o
[05:10] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It depends on your RAM setup.
[05:10] <Ashfire908> Malik_, can't do either ram change or hdd while the computer is powered on, of course
[05:10] <jdh6403> oops
[05:10]  * macksting reopens the game and suddenly feels very, very stupid.
[05:10]  * PurpZeY looks at Ashfire908 in consideration of anyone doing that. . . .
[05:10] <Malik_> how many ram slots do computer hav and how much ram can they hold
[05:10] <macksting> Alt-Enter.
[05:10] <macksting> It would have fixed everything.
[05:10] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It depends from board to board.
[05:10] <RoxanneEDM> msg nickserv register hayden
[05:10] <Ashfire908> Malik_, open the case and look!
[05:10] <PurpZeY> whoops
[05:11] <RoxanneEDM> guess that password is not gonna be used
[05:11] <nickrud> lol RoxanneEDM
[05:11] <Malik_> yea iam in a diffrent country
[05:11] <RoxanneEDM> lol
[05:11] <beerfan> Malik_: if you're rich you should just have someone do that for you ;-)
[05:11] <Malik_> iam going back tommrow
[05:11] <Malik_> to canada
[05:11]  * PurpZeY giggles @ beerfan
[05:11] <Malik_> form us
[05:11] <jdh6403> ok  now im registered
[05:11] <macksting> I'll bear pkill in mind, but I gotta say, I don't think I'll need it for Ultima after all. Thanks! Adios!
[05:11] <Malik_> yea beerfan ur doin it
[05:11] <Malik_> lol
[05:11] <Malik_> tommrow
[05:11] <Malik_> wwatch i will eb at my house
[05:11] <beerfan> for a beer I'll do it
[05:11] <Malik_> iam j/k i jus enjoy these things
[05:11] <Malik_> lol so ur drunk and u mess up
[05:11] <Ashfire908> macksting, gnome-system-monitor is nice for killing processes
[05:11] <crazee_canuck> RoxanneEDM, a safer way, /query nickserv       then in that new window/tab type      register password
[05:11] <Malik_> idiot...lol j/k
[05:12] <Micc> I have gutsy gibbon installed but my workspaces don't behave the way I would expect and I don't see the preference that are mentioned in the forums.
[05:12] <PurpZeY> Micc: You have to install Compiz-Config manager
[05:12] <macksting> Ashfire: How do I get to it?
[05:12] <PurpZeY> Micc: Use synaptic.
[05:12] <beerfan> Micc: clarify your problem
[05:12] <nickrud> PurpZeY, learn the freaking name :)
[05:12] <Malik_> so i donot get the hard drive part can do hradrives be on at ocne and wats all this partition stuff
[05:12] <RoxanneEDM> jdh6403:  i see you typing, you cant see me , i need to reg.
[05:12] <PurpZeY> nickrud: How shall I refer to it?
[05:12]  * macksting sticks around for the answer to Micc's question.
[05:12] <Ashfire908> macksting, alt-f2, type in gnome-system-monitor and click run
[05:13] <jdh6403> ok
[05:13] <Micc> I can't fine workspace settings. I had setup alt-1-4 to switch workspaces.
[05:13] <nickrud> PurpZeY, compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:13] <Micc> but It doesn't work anymore.
[05:13] <Clearzen> PurpZeY: ccsm
[05:13] <Ashfire908> Night
[05:13] <PurpZeY> Clearzen: I know ccsm, but ccsm is useless to someone who has no idea
[05:13] <PurpZeY> Micc: You need compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:13] <AstroFoo> hello, does the standard php5-cgi package support fastcgi by default?
[05:13] <Clearzen> you can install it with sudo aptitude install ccsm
[05:13] <Malik_> and  can some1 gimem a link that can help me identify computer parts cause all i can identify is the ram
[05:13] <Ashfire908> Malik_, google?
[05:13] <macksting> Thanks, Ashfire. I'm out.
[05:13] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Not me.
[05:14] <Ashfire908> Malik_, better yet, ask.com
[05:14] <iamchris> I just got gutsy and compiz running, finally@
[05:14] <iamchris> !
[05:14] <Ashfire908> google sucks.
[05:14] <Malik_> or can some1 add me on msn and i can send them my internet pics
[05:14] <Clearzen> Ashfire908: lol, I think you just aren't using it properly
[05:14] <Malik_> r u the guys answering the questiosn at ask.com....lol!
[05:14] <soldats> google is what make earth spin
[05:14] <Malik_> LOL heehehe!
[05:15] <nickrud> !enter | Malik_
[05:15] <ubotu> Malik_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:15] <Ashfire908> no google sucks. you enter in "a" and get some mix of a, b, e, z, ifhw9uih4 and gi4ht.
[05:15] <Malik_> o
[05:15] <PurpZeY> Anyone besides me been watching the twilight zone for 48 hours?
[05:15] <Malik_> sry
[05:15] <Ashfire908> actually i don't get anything relavant
[05:15] <Scunizi> PurpZeY: sometimes it is the twilight zone in here.
[05:15] <Clearzen> Ashfire908: What are you looking for?
[05:15] <nickrud> Ashfire908, what are you googling?
[05:15] <beerfan> Ashfire908: garbage in, garbage out
[05:15] <fallore> heheh
[05:15] <Ashfire908> i search for a and get a, but i actually wanted a, aa, aaa
[05:15] <Micc> seems like it should be a standard installed thing.
[05:16] <Ashfire908> nothing right now
[05:16] <soldats> Ashfire908, there are a lot of more hidden commands to get better results with google just goolge them to find out
[05:16] <Clearzen> Ashfire908: use quotes
[05:16] <PurpZeY> Micc: I have thought the same thing, but once it's installed it's no worries
[05:16] <nickrud> rflol soldats
[05:16] <Ashfire908> no i don't mean literaly
[05:16] <soldats> :P
[05:16] <Micc> I've heard somewhere there's a way to run visual studio on linux? or something similar grasshopper or something?
[05:16] <Ashfire908> i mean like i look for X and get X, but i wanted X and Y but i don't know what Y is
[05:17] <iamchris> This may be throwing myself under the bus here, but how do I get one of those awesome mac-esque taskbars?
[05:17] <Ashfire908> i can't explain it too well
[05:17] <Ashfire908> gtg night
[05:17] <beerfan> iamchris: google for awn
[05:17] <riotkittie> work space settings can also be found under Preference > Appearence  w/o CCSM installed. i'm not sure if it has its own tab or not
[05:17] <nickrud> iamchris, look for avant-window-navigator
[05:17] <Clearzen> iamchris: it's called a dock and there is a few options. I don't use
[05:17] <iamchris> will it be in synaptec?
[05:17] <Clearzen> one personally
[05:18] <nickrud> iamchris, no, not this release
[05:18] <Clearzen> Perhaps, I know there is avant that is supposed to be a good choice
[05:22] <matholum> hello everyone... i don't know if you heard me ask it before, but i have a qwik question... i have a toshiba satellite w/ an ati card and the boot is very slow and i can't see the ubuntu splash screen or the progress bar... any ideas on what to do?
[05:22] <Micc> wow, this compiz thing has a lot of cool features.
[05:22] <misterblonde2517> how do i exit teh terminal
[05:22] <Micc> this is way cooler than vista.
[05:22] <beerfan> misterblonde2517: exit
[05:22] <Scunizi> matholum: is this on feisty or gutsy?
[05:22] <methods> why does udevd take up all my cpu ?
[05:22] <matholum> gutsy
[05:22] <misterblonde2517> it brings me back to login
[05:22] <speeddemon8803> All?
[05:22] <Clearzen> misterblonde2517: exit or logout
[05:23] <matholum> i tried a few boot options but nothing happens...
[05:23] <misterblonde2517> both bring me back to the login screen
[05:23] <Scunizi> matholum: on feisty you could solve that prob by putting "irqpoll' at the end of the kernel line in grub.. I don't know if it will work in gutsy
[05:23] <matholum> alright... let me try it (it isn't this comp)
[05:24] <Scunizi> k
[05:25] <W_McL> matholum, also by removing the "quiet" and "splash" boot options, you will see the system messages during boot
[05:25] <whuffor> I am getting: "Desktop effects could not be enabled" when I try to enable them for my desktop. I have a new ubuntu 7.10 install. Any way to fix this?
[05:25] <Micc> I'm not seeing how I change workspaces with this cube thing.
[05:26] <silverhi> g
[05:26] <Cpudan80> matholum: Yep - easy fix
[05:26] <beerfan> Micc: try ctrl-alt-left or right
[05:26] <Cpudan80> The factoid is ehhhh
[05:26] <Scunizi> whuffor: u have to enable the restricted drivers for your vid card
[05:26] <Cpudan80> !brokensplash | matholum
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brokensplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Is ubotu not here?
[05:26] <whuffor> Scunizi: Ah, ok. Thanks. I'll look into that.
[05:27] <Scunizi> Cpudan80: ubotu answered your query.. so "he's" here.
[05:27] <whuffor> Scunizi: No joy there. I got the message: "Your hardware don't need proprietary drivers"
[05:27] <matholum> i have tried that several times and i could only see the output once, and when it did it went faster
[05:27] <matholum> i tried irqpoll and i still can't see anything untill the logon screen and it still takes forever
[05:27] <matholum> -_-
[05:27] <Scunizi> whuffor: I've never seen that message before..
[05:27] <beerfan> whuffor: your video card may be too new, may be blacklisted
[05:28] <beerfan> It doesn't recognize my nvidia card because it's too new
[05:28] <PurpZeY> beerfan: I used to run beryl. I ran beryl in feisty. Why is it blacklisted
[05:28] <whuffor> beerfan: I sort of doubt that. I had kubuntu briefly installed earlier and I could enable lots of funky effects there.
[05:28] <Cpudan80> matholum: Not sure if you saw my message before my client screwed up
[05:29] <matholum> cpudan> it was an easy fix... but it only worked once... -_-
[05:29] <Cpudan80> !brokensplash | matholum
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brokensplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <PurpZeY> Guess beryl works
[05:29] <matholum> i will look at the brokensplash thing
[05:29] <nickrud> whuffor, try running    SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz  in a terminal , see if it starts
[05:29] <Cpudan80> matholum: That  brokensplash is the real one
[05:29] <Cpudan80> !broken-splash
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken-splash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <puppt> !brokenusplash
[05:29] <ubotu> Supported screen resolutions are sometimes detected incorrectly, causing the splash screen to not appear and slowing down boot. Edit /etc/usplash.conf and change "xres" and "yres" to a resolution that your graphics system certainly supports, then run « sudo update-usplash-theme usplash-theme-ubuntu »
[05:29] <matholum> ok, add that in the grub line?
[05:30] <Cpudan80> matholum: no, do that thing ubotu just said
[05:30] <nickrud> oh, brokensplash I need to try that one
[05:30] <Scunizi> matholum: you do it from a terminal
[05:30] <matholum> wow thanks... i will give that a try
[05:31] <Cpudan80> matholum: A common problem with laptops... not sure if that's the situation you're in
[05:31] <matholum> well... it is a laptop so maybe
[05:31] <whuffor> nickrud: OK. Will try
[05:31] <Micc> what is this glib main loop support in compiz?
[05:32] <phreck> whenever i try to re-size a window, my WM goes stupid, and everything comes to a screeching halt
[05:32] <phreck> super slow
[05:32] <beerfan> Micc: if you don't understand it, don't mess with it. Compiz is still developmental
[05:32] <Micc> ah, that must be why its not a default install.
[05:32] <phreck> uh
[05:32] <phreck> it actually is in ubuntu 7.10 i believe
[05:33] <beerfan> the UI is not
[05:33] <nickrud> Micc, glib main loop is the wait for user or other event loop
[05:33] <Micc> I have 7.10 but it didn't install automatically for me.
[05:33] <phreck> yes it did
[05:33] <phreck> it just wasnt labeled "compiz-fusion"
[05:33] <phreck> its under "desktop effects"
[05:34] <matholum> hmm... still no splash... -_-
[05:34] <Malik_> i got another question
[05:34] <Micc> I must have installed 7.10 early on. it didn't have it. I just installed the compiz settings
[05:34] <matholum> i saw it when i shutdown though
[05:34] <jdh6403> wb maynards-girl
[05:34] <Malik_> will i be able to put a xp or vista llok on linux
[05:34] <Cpudan80> Gutsy doesn't have compiz in it by default
[05:34] <jdh6403> yes malik
[05:34] <Cpudan80> You have to add it
[05:35] <maynards-girl> thanks! glad to be back
[05:35] <beerfan> compiz is installed by default, with a few fusion modules enabled. The ccsm UI is not installed by default.
[05:35] <Malik_> i can
[05:35] <matholum> any idea why taking out quiet and splash didn't work?
[05:35] <phreck> Cpudan80: no, it doesnt have the manager in it, it does however use compiz for its desktop effects.
[05:35] <Cpudan80> beerfan: is correct
[05:35] <whuffor> nickrud: No joy. Getting error messages from that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50465/
[05:35] <Cpudan80> matholum: did that thing fix your problem?
[05:35] <nickrud> whuffor, what video chip do you have?
[05:35] <matholum> no... i still had no splash and it still takes forever to load
[05:36] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[05:36] <Cpudan80> weird
[05:36] <Cpudan80> matholum: were the resolutions set properly in that file?
[05:36] <matholum> no they weren't
[05:36] <whuffor> nickrud: It's an integrated card. Some sort of intel I believe.
[05:36] <matholum> they are fixed now though
[05:36] <Cpudan80> matholum: Are you sure the setting stuck?
[05:36] <Cpudan80> matholum: you have to edit that file with sudo
[05:36] <phreck> im still trying to figure out what goes wrong when i try to resize a window
[05:37] <matholum> i will check it again... ya, i used sudo
[05:37] <Scunizi> whuffor: you might need the intel 9xx driver.. check synaptic for "INTEL"
[05:37] <Cpudan80> gksudo gedit /etc/usplash.conf
[05:37] <nickrud> whuffor, need to know the exact chip.    lspci | grep -i vga   in a terminal will teill you
[05:37] <whuffor> nickrud: It's intel G31 apparently
[05:37] <nickrud> whuffor, see Scunizi above
[05:38] <Malik_> wats is BERYL?
[05:38] <Malik_> wat in the world is BERYL
[05:38] <whuffor> Scunizi: nickrud: OK. This is what I got: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:38] <matholum> cpudan> it is still the new res
[05:39] <beerfan> Malik_: beryl is some old obsolete software. ignore it
[05:39] <Malik_> but wat does it even do
[05:39] <jdh6403> lol   what is it with beryl tonight
[05:39] <Malik_> cause i heard so much botu it
[05:39] <AzMoo> Hey, Is there a way to set the apt mirror during installation? It seems that http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ is down, and it's screwing up my installations when it times out.
[05:39] <beerfan> Malik_: google is your friend
[05:39] <Malik_> o come on
[05:39] <Mr_Sonoma> !beryl | Malik_
[05:39] <ubotu> Malik_: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[05:40] <Mr_Sonoma> !compiz | Malik_
[05:40] <ubotu> Malik_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:40] <Detedagowa|WoW> hey
[05:40] <Detedagowa|WoW> all
[05:40] <Malik_> do u think a begginer should need it?
[05:40] <Scunizi> agpgart-intel see http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=82g33+on+linux&btnG=Google+Search whuffor
[05:40] <Mr_Sonoma> not really its just 3d effects
[05:40] <beerfan> Malik_: was "obsolete" unclear?
[05:40] <Mr_Sonoma> nice eye candy but not really useful
[05:41] <Malik_> wat!
[05:41] <Malik_> 3d effects
[05:41] <Malik_> i want those
[05:41] <Malik_> is that the cube thing?
[05:41] <Mr_Sonoma> yes
[05:41] <timfrost> AzMoo: you can usually choose the main server (archive.ubuntu.com)
[05:41] <beerfan> compiz = cube
[05:41] <whuffor> Scunizi: Checking the link...
[05:41] <AzMoo> timfrost: It doesn't give me an option to choose a server
[05:41] <Detedagowa|WoW> anyone know what happened if my updates messed up and now my mount root 453 is b0rked....
[05:41] <Detedagowa|WoW> or somthing like that lol
[05:42] <timfrost> AzMoo: Live CD or alternate?
[05:42] <Detedagowa|WoW> HDD
[05:42] <AzMoo> timfrost: xubuntu alternate
[05:42] <zenrium> why is it under a fair amount of linux distros using gnome i've tried I always seem to get the same issue with windows :P  When I open new apps they have to be moved down to access their title bars because they start too far up the screen - so the bar is off the screen!! whhhyyy...
[05:42] <Beetle121> How true is it that I'm protected from viruses without needing software?
[05:42] <beerfan> zenrium: that's a good question
[05:42] <Detedagowa|WoW> can anyone help me?
[05:43] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: In ubuntu? very true
[05:43] <Scunizi> zenrium: that happens to me only when compiz-fusion is active.. turn it off and tht will go away.
[05:43] <beerfan> Beetle121: most virus' are designed for windows
[05:43] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: Just don't sudo anything without knowing what it is & where it comes from
[05:43] <zenrium> scunizi : thats great.. and yet not so great... because i've had this occur in the past before compiz/beryl/aiglx were even in existance..
[05:43] <crdlb> zenrium: do you have ccsm installed?
[05:43] <Detedagowa|WoW> can somone pm me that can help me with a messed up install
[05:43] <Beetle121> haha I won't run anything in that terminal until I know a LOT more.
[05:43] <Cpudan80> There aren't many *nix viruses -- as the market share for *nix isn't enough to attract that many viruses
[05:44] <crdlb> Scunizi: you fan fix that by enabling the compiz "Place Windows" plugin
[05:44] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: then you're safe pretty much
[05:44] <Scunizi> zenrium: maybe i'm in the minority... maybe not
[05:44] <crdlb> zenrium: oh nm then
[05:44] <zenrium> crdlb : yes I do but this has happened in linux distros to me before compiz came out
[05:44] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: Learn the terminal though, it's your friend :-)
[05:44] <AzMoo> Cpudan80: Not only that, unless you're running in root the only thing it can affect is your profile.
[05:44] <Scunizi> crdlb: thnks
[05:44] <jdh6403> beetle   very true
[05:44] <crdlb> zenrium: well check that Place Windows is checked if you're using compiz
[05:44] <Detedagowa|WoW> do i have to reinstall if my distro update messed up?
[05:44] <Cpudan80> AzMoo: Very true
[05:44] <AzMoo> Detedagowa|WoW: What's the error message?
[05:44] <zenrium> crdlb roger that.. thanks
[05:44] <Detedagowa|WoW> and it borked
[05:44] <Detedagowa|WoW> um
[05:45] <Detedagowa|WoW> failure mount root 453 i think
[05:45] <Detedagowa|WoW> close to that if not exact
[05:45] <timfrost> AzMoo: You can change the mirror once the install has completed, so I suggest that you tell the install to ignore updates
[05:45] <Scunizi> !enter | Detedagowa|WoW
[05:45] <ubotu> Detedagowa|WoW: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:45] <Malik_> hey i jus burned linux do i need to be bootign to install it cause riite now i go to my dvd drive and all i see r folders
[05:45] <Detedagowa|WoW> i wanted it to update i only have a 6.06 disk and i want 7.10
[05:45] <zenrium> crdlb : nice.. thanks - sorted cheers love you long time.. awesome. :)
[05:46] <Scunizi> Malik_: you burned it as data instead of and ISO image
[05:46] <beerfan> Malik_: you need to boot from the cd.  Why must  /  be reformatted even though I have already formatted it as ext3?! Arrghh!!!
[05:46] <Malik_> can u install linux on vista?
[05:46] <Cpudan80> Malik_: No...?
[05:46] <beerfan> Malik_: in a manner of speaking, yes
[05:47] <whuffor> Scunizi: It seems as it's not supported by compiz. Saw this in ubuntuforums about the 82G33/G31 Intel Express Graphics Diver: "The last I heard, the chipset does not work with Compiz/Beryl, and is blacklisted in the /usr/bin/compiz file"
[05:47] <Detedagowa|WoW> i know bob i was going one at a time i went from 6.06 to 6.10 then to 7.04 when the mess up happened
[05:47] <Cpudan80> Malik_: You can install it inside a virtual machine, that's about it
[05:47] <matholum> cpudan> ya, i just retried it and still nothing... and this time i took off quiet splash and added irqpoll....
[05:47] <bob__> tuntun: That is why I have a seperate /home partition...
[05:47] <Scunizi> whuffor: sorry to hear that.
[05:47] <beerfan> Malik_: check out cygwin if you just want to run linux apps in windows
[05:47] <Malik_> o...and it it atucally possible to hav the vitsa or xp look on linux?
[05:47] <beerfan> Malik_: themes
[05:48] <whuffor> Scunizi: nickrud Thanks for the help of tracking down this. It's no biggie really, but I was a bit puzzled by it.
[05:48] <Malik_> so normally ubutntu doesn;t coem with the 3d cube effect u gotta put or beryl
[05:48] <bob__> Detedagowa|WoW: And you avoided the other part of the question... because...?
[05:48] <Detedagowa|WoW> i have a question that idk if its stupid if my root file is messed up can i unzip my iso take that one and place it in the driver or is it more complicated than im making myself beleive
[05:48] <beerfan> Malik_: there is no beryl
[05:48] <Detedagowa|WoW> i didnt measn to aoid other part...didnt see it
[05:48] <Malik_> wat do u mean
[05:48] <Cpudan80> Malik_: My computer cant run Compiz
[05:48] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Ubuntu comes with compiz-fusion, beryl is an old program
[05:49] <beerfan> beryl is abandoned by the people who created it
[05:49] <Cpudan80> So... I wouldn't want it all ramped up as the default
[05:49] <Malik_> o
[05:49] <matholum> T_T why does it take 3 min to boot my comp?!
[05:49] <tuntun> Why does the ubuntu installer insist  /  must be reformatted even though I have already formatted it as ext3?!
[05:49] <Malik_> so copiz which comes with the ubuntu is the 3d effect>
[05:49] <PurpZeY> Malik_: compiz-fusion has more and better effects than beryl
[05:49] <beerfan> tuntun: why ask why? just format
[05:49] <bob__> Malik_:  You would just enable ccsm and turn on the cube effect..
[05:49] <bob__> !ccsm
[05:49] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[05:49] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Yes, it will install. If your gfx card supports it you use ccssm
[05:50] <Malik_> alrite u guys help me out wit this later i will tell u my system and al the stuff aobu tit and all
[05:50] <Malik_> brb u guys r good help
[05:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> In Feisty I could get the volume controls for all my speakers (Front, Rear, Center, Surround, etc.) but in Gutsy I can only control the Front, how can I fix this?
[05:50] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Good luck
[05:50] <Dingbat> Question.  Got a second HD I'd like to have mounted automatically instead of having to manually mount it.
[05:50] <bob__> We try
[05:50] <Dingbat> How do I do it?
[05:50] <tuntun> because any ext2/3 partition that ubuntu makes is unuseable in partionmagic
[05:50] <Malik_> and iam good help to micrsoft for spyiing on u guys..lol
[05:50] <Malik_> j/k
[05:50] <Malik_> fo this i hav to sya j/k
[05:50] <Malik_> jus so u guys donot take it seriously
[05:50] <PurpZeY> It's not funny
[05:50] <matholum> i take it that you guys all prefer compiz.... i haven't ever tried it... i would never do beryl, but what are the differences?
[05:50] <Malik_> ol
[05:51] <Malik_> lol*
[05:51] <PurpZeY> We don't worry about spies
[05:51] <Detedagowa|WoW> if i just reinstall my 6.06 can somone help me do the updates to 6.10?? i can get the rest fromthere
[05:51] <PurpZeY> We are doing nothing wrong
[05:51] <Scunizi> Dingbat: put the mount line in /etc/fstab
[05:51] <beerfan> tuntun: ubuntu has it's own partition magic program called gparted
[05:51] <nickrud> matholum, to the user, no real difference
[05:51] <Malik_> yea but spies can do thing wrong which r bad
[05:51] <bob__> matholum: they combined compiz and beryl...
[05:51] <ushimitsudoki> Biscuitan: The volume control > edit >preferences should allow you to select which sliders appear in the control
[05:51] <PurpZeY> Not likely
[05:51] <Detedagowa|WoW> brb all reinstalling
[05:51] <Malik_> liley if they r micrsoft spies
[05:51] <Skyblast> People that do bad here are banned ;)
[05:51] <stefkoo> hello when i type screen irssi i connect on irc blabla.. and i close terminal so i open again terminal how to i COME on the screen to come on irssi again?
[05:51] <Malik_> alrite g2g
[05:51] <crdlb> stefkoo: screen -r
[05:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: The thing is those options aren't there anymore :\
[05:52] <beerfan> Malik_: spies? How can you spy on something that's open and free?
[05:52] <Scunizi> !screen | stefkoo
[05:52] <ubotu> stefkoo: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[05:52] <bob__> Malik_: PLease avoid the off topic chat.. or use #Ubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <matholum> i wanna cry... this is so annoying! T_T
[05:52] <PurpZeY> beerfan: carefully....>: )
[05:52] <tuntun> gparted couldn't hope to create/delete/move files on an unmounted partition
[05:52] <Malik_> alrite bob
[05:52] <DeLe0n> does somebody knows what happened with alsaconf?
[05:52] <beerfan> tuntun: actually, yes it can
[05:52] <n0cturna1_> trying to do a "net ads join -U<EMAIL_ADDRESS>getting the error: Failed to join domain: The connection was refused.. any ideas? kinit gives me a ticket, just can't join..
[05:53] <stefkoo> crdlb: don't works screen -r
[05:53] <portokaosol> hey folks, is there a "safe mode" that I can use in Ubuntu?
[05:53] <stefkoo> crdlb: i'm running a bitchx like ( i type "screen BitchX" )
[05:53] <portokaosol> (or Xubuntu to be exact)
[05:53] <beerfan> if partition magic can't work on ext3 partitions formatted by linux, then I suggest that it is the broken software
[05:53] <Scunizi> portokaosol: for what purpose?
[05:53] <crdlb> stefkoo: you really ought to use irssi :) but what exactly doesn't work about screen -r?
[05:53] <tuntun> gparted has never made apparent (in my usage) any ability to create/delete/move files on an unmounted partition
[05:54] <bob__> partition magic 7 cant but 8 can
[05:54] <stefkoo> crdlb: i need to paste you
[05:54] <stefkoo> crdlb: wait
[05:54] <crdlb> stefkoo: use a pastebin
[05:54] <nickrud> beerfan, if partition magic can't work on ext3, then ext3 shouldn't be used
[05:54] <portokaosol> Scunizi: it seems that my graphics card has fried, and when I boot everything starts normally but the screen is garbled
[05:54] <stefkoo> sure
[05:54] <beerfan> nickrud: because, without PM the partition is useless?
[05:54] <bob__> tuntun: What are you trying to do.. Gparted can create and ove when it resizes a partition.. but it is not a file manager.
[05:54] <stefkoo> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50469/
[05:54] <stefkoo> check there
[05:55] <Dingbat> God I love ubuntu.  Been using it for over a year as my primary workstation.
[05:55] <nickrud> beerfan, no, partition magic is the definitive partitioner ;p
[05:55] <crdlb> stefkoo: you have a lot of dead screens, run 'screen -wipe'
[05:55] <Skyblast> Osm
[05:55] <Scunizi> portokaosol: hopefully it's just a messed up driver.  when you boot grub should show you a couple of kernel lines. One is rescue which is text based.. that's probaby what you're looking for.
[05:55] <Skyblast> Isn't partition magic long abandoned and no longer supported?
[05:55] <tuntun> partitionmagic works fine with ext2/3, but any ext2/3 partition ubuntu installer makes is unusable with it
[05:55] <stefkoo> crdlb: ok i type it and what now ?
[05:56] <corinth> Happy New Year!
[05:56] <crdlb> stefkoo: then you need to pick one of the "detached" screens
[05:56] <corinth> Now, on to business :-P
[05:56] <beerfan> nickrud: sorry, but PM is just another implementation of a partition. The creators do not write the specs for the partition types they implement.
[05:56] <stefkoo> crdlb: tell me command
[05:56] <crdlb> stefkoo: run screen -r followed by the PID of the one you want to attach to
[05:56] <corinth> I have a friend that just bought a new sound card. How can he get Ubuntu to recognize/use it?
[05:56] <nickrud> beerfan, really bad deadpan humor. I'm known for it
[05:56] <bob__> :)
[05:56] <crdlb> stefkoo: so 'screen -r 12992' will attach to the first one
[05:57] <Scunizi> corinth: plug it in and try it.. it might just work
[05:57] <jdh6403> ok   off to bed i go.....need sleep...cya all later
[05:57] <beerfan> nickrud: if that was all a joke then just ignore me ;-)
[05:57] <stefkoo> aha
[05:57] <ushimitsudoki> biscuitain: did you check from the shell as well? Like from amixer or alsamixer? are you missing sliders/controls there as well?
[05:57] <tuntun> gparted isn't a file manager but partitionmagic is, until you try to access any ext2/3 partitions that ubntu installer makes!!!
[05:57] <stefkoo> oki
[05:57] <stefkoo> thx ! :* :D
[05:57] <bob__> nickrud:  Darn... forgot I am building a new system for someone else...   Jack here...  Arghhh
[05:57] <corinth> Scunizi: If it worked out of the box, I wouldn't be here ;-)
[05:57] <nickrud> bob__, hah. Now all I need is the last :)
[05:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: there's nothing there, i think it's alsa related as I use arch linux as well and the issue shows up there, i'm not sure what's going down wrong
[05:58] <bob__> Sparrrrrrrrrow
[05:58] <Scunizi> tuntun: are you trying partition magic from the widows side?  if so have you loaded the ext2/3 driver?
[05:58] <Scunizi> *for windows
[05:58] <nickrud> bob__, no, got that part, I've now got the Rooobeert part :)
[05:58] <beerfan> tuntun: I suspect the ubuntu installer requires the / partition to be formatted just to be safe. I don't know of a workaround but there is probably one. Or you could try upgrading your PM.
[05:58] <portokaosol> Scunizi: Xubuntu launched some sort of a safe mode, but I can't go back to it for some reason. I can't use the terminal since I am new, and wouldn't know what to do with it... I only opened the screensavers setting, and I picked one random screensaver when the machine froze. After that my BIOS showed that it also crashed, and loaded the defaults....
[05:58] <l3oddah> i finally got my vpn working and my routing tables correct and can view my works network now, however I am adding a script to ip-up.d to auto add the routes and it isn't running when the vpn connects, the script is owned by root and permissions set to 755
[05:58] <corinth> What utility do I use in Ubuntu to configure a sound card?
[05:59] <beerfan> tuntun: if you're running PM from within windows that's probably your problem
[06:00] <ushimitsudoki> Biscuitian: Sorry then :(
[06:00] <beerfan> corinth: most audio chipsets are automatically detected and the driver loaded. If the audio driver isn't loaded you'll have to google for that audio and find out why
[06:00] <Cpudan80> Anyone know how I can change the default "open with" to VLC for video files in firefox?
[06:00] <tuntun> partitionmagic works fine (in windows of course) with any ext2/3 partition except with the ones that ubuntu installer creates, thats why there is no point in installing it if i cant access the files from windows.
[06:00] <Scunizi> portokaosol: if you can get to the messed up screen try ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a terminal .. then ask here for someone to walk you through command line reconfiguration of the xorg file.  sorry i can't do thatt.
[06:00] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: when i do aplay -L, it outputs that a 5.1 and 7.1 mode are available, where's the asoundrc file at or the config in which i can force it to choose these modes?
[06:00] <beerfan> tuntun: I suggest you install the ext2 driver for windows instead of using PM
[06:00] <portokaosol> is there a lot to do Scunizi ?
[06:01] <Scunizi> portokaosol: depends.. but probably not much if it's just reconfiguring the video driver.. there's a one line commad
[06:01] <beerfan> tuntun: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:01] <tuntun> beerfan: partitionmagic works with EVERYTHING *except* ubuntu installer ext partitions
[06:01] <bob__> tuntun: You are doing something wrong.. I just booted my windows install, and accessed my ext3 that were created by ubuntu
[06:01] <extracted> has any one had any luck with the new ATI drivers from AMD ?
[06:02] <bob__> tuntun: I used PM8 to do it
[06:02] <portokaosol> Scunizi: so do you know what would be the appropriate question to ask? What command am I looking for?
[06:02] <Scunizi> portokaosol: how to reconfigure xorg
[06:02] <Scunizi> to a basic state
[06:02] <bob__> tuntun: I do have the ext3 driver installed in that copy of XP
[06:03] <tuntun> bob_: well ubuntu installer started messing up the ext partitions some time after dapper, so what version are you using?
[06:03] <portokaosol> okay. Can anyone help me to reconfigure Xorg?
[06:03] <bob__> ON that box I have Feisty
[06:03] <extracted> has any one had any luck with the new ATI drivers from AMD ?
[06:03] <makers_mark> i installed kde in ubuntu but then decided to go back to gnome.the problem is that the os boot screen says kubuntu and it's not the original ubuntu one.how can i set it back?
[06:04] <bob__> tuntun: LEt me double check
[06:04] <soldats> portokaosol, what part of xorg
[06:04] <Kevin`> what does an "oem install" of ubuntu do?
[06:04] <Scunizi> soldats: hes looking for a generic reconfigure from the terminal to a basic state.
[06:04] <portokaosol> Scunizi: do you know what part of xorg?
[06:04] <portokaosol> oh, cool!
[06:05] <ushimitsudoki> biscuitian: I think either ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.config are suitable, but I am not sure about that
[06:05] <timfrost> Kevin`: OEM nstall is used by PC makers to do a custom install for their hardware
[06:05] <Scunizi> !xorg
[06:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:05] <Kevin`> what is the difference from a normal install, though
[06:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: kk thanks :D
[06:05] <extracted> has any one had any luck with the new ATI drivers from AMD ?
[06:05] <soldats> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <soldats> set all to default
[06:06] <beerfan> extracted: try the forums if you don't find your answer here
[06:06] <makers_mark> anyone?
[06:06] <extracted> I am trying to find a good driver for my ati card that will actually make it preform correctly.
[06:06] <nickrud> extracted, yes, I used http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[06:06] <tuntun> and ubuntu installer never uses drive labels, they are just left blank, so agrivating...
[06:06] <Scunizi> portokaosol: see soldats post above for  the command  line to reconfigure.
[06:06] <portokaosol> I see it
[06:06] <portokaosol> cool!
[06:06] <pdaoust> hello, folks. People say CD extraction is slow in Ubuntu -- is 2x average, or is that unusually slow?
[06:06] <beerfan> tuntun: ubuntu uses UUIDs instead of labels
[06:06] <extracted> nickrud, every time i go though the install proccess it errors out saying that the make command can not be found,  something with the script that came with it.
[06:07] <Kevin`> pdaoust it was faster when I tried it. I don't see any reason why it would be slower then something else
[06:07] <extracted> its just trying to make a temp directory but can not find the command
[06:07] <beerfan> pdaoust: cd extraction? you mean ripping songs or what?
[06:07] <Scunizi> beerfan: tuntun ubuntu can use both.. they both hve their place and issues.
[06:07] <soldats> portokaosol, be careful with it, you dont want to mess something up, be cautious and use defaults when necessary
[06:07] <nickrud> extracted, have you tried method 2 on that howto?
[06:07] <tuntun> beerfan: since edgy?
[06:07] <beerfan> tuntun: that sounds about right
[06:07] <pdaoust> Kevin`: yeah, I don't see why it would eithher; I was just reading forum/newsgroup postings in whihch people complained about CD extracting speed
[06:08] <hypercube> I hate to barge in, but I have a question. Do I just ask for help right here or is there a bot to whom I need to send my question to? I have never been on this channel before, so sorry if this sounds kinda stupid...
[06:08] <nickrud> extracted, I've used that one for the last several ati releases, always worked. And the latest ati has aiglx and suspend working
[06:08] <bob__> tuntun: Sorry, I had to reboot that box and hit the fsck on a large drive.. but yet.. it is Feisty
[06:08] <Scunizi> hypercube: ask away
[06:08] <PurpZeY> hybercube: just ask
[06:08] <interceptor> !ru
[06:08] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:08] <extracted> This will install the driver that is currently in the repositories. It may be older than the current version from AMD.
[06:08] <pdaoust> beerfan: yep, ripping. I've tried both Rhythmbox and Sound-Juicer (without paranoia) and it's anywhere between 0.9x and 5x. Pretty horrible compared to thhe 10x-20x ripping speeds I'd get (even with a bit of paranoia) on Windows.
[06:09] <nickrud> extracted, that's method 1
[06:09] <pdaoust> I think it might be a hardware issue...?!
[06:09] <bob__> pdaoust: Have you tried Grip
[06:09] <beerfan> pdaoust: I just ripped some cds this evening with sound juicer. felt plenty fast to me but I didn't see anything showing a spped
[06:09] <tuntun> bob_: well edgy started using UUIDs, and that just means there is a blank, unlabelled partition in partitionmagic
[06:09] <pdaoust> bob__: just downloading it now to see if it's a problem with Sound-Juicer
[06:09] <extracted> ill try it again,
[06:10] <pdaoust> beerfan: it's in the status bar.
[06:10] <bob__> tut
[06:10] <nickrud> tuntun, I'm just kinda jumping in here, but you can use e2label to give it a label
[06:10] <nalpha> guys, anyone using ubuntu 7.10 ? I installed Printer HP Laserjet 1300  and it's sometimes go to offline or "not enabled" status ini printer's config. Anyone know the problems? It's occur in my server (printer sharing) and the client. All using ubuntu 7.10
[06:10] <pdaoust> bob__: I wouldn't mind using Grip myself, but I'm setting up a computer for my dad, and naturally everything has to be as simple as possible. Hence, I'm hoping I can get Rhythmbox to rip CDs at a respectable speed.
[06:10] <bob__> tuntun: Sorry...  Also note that changing any partition on that drive WILL change all uuid's for all partitions on that drive
[06:11] <beerfan> grip works, but has a horrible UI and is overly complicated.
[06:11] <portokaosol> soldats: I finished reconfiguring, now what? shall I enter reboot?
[06:11] <detedagowa> i need a little help with an install it says i have  fat32 ntfs and unalocated partition i click to use the unalocated and it doesnt give me the chance to put "/" and swap in unalocated
[06:11] <nickrud> grip is old school, written for devs by devs and it shows
[06:11] <corinth> There's no way to configure a sound card manually in gnome?
[06:12] <bob__> beerfan: Use what works for you...
[06:12] <beerfan> exactly right
[06:12] <tuntun> I just won't be able to use my rock-solid file manager with ubuntu because it does something different with the ext partitions,
[06:12] <beerfan> tuntun: life is not always fair
[06:13] <pdaoust> detedagowa: I believe you have to create a partition in that unallocated space first, which will allow you to choose the partition type (I'd go ext3) and set the mount point to '/'
[06:13] <AzMoo> What does ubuntu do differently with ext partitions?
[06:13] <bob__> AzMoo: Nothing
[06:13] <tuntun> why on earth can't it just use the bloody ext3 paritition I just made for it!
[06:13] <pdaoust> detedagowa: it may be as simple as right-clicking on the unallocated space and choosing a menu entry, but I can't recall
[06:13] <hypercube> okay, thx.  I am running gutsy with the latest proprietary nvidia driver (ver. 169.07) and top says that Xorg is taking up 895m of virtual memory and around 100m of resident memory. Is this because it's caching a lot of stuff and will eventually swap it out when I need the memory, or does this look like a memory leak in nvidia's driver?
[06:13] <AzMoo> bob__: That's what I thought.   I just checked and cannot duplicate what he is saying on my dual boot box
[06:14] <Scunizi> portokaosol: ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:14] <PurpZeY> hybercube: That one is a little skewed from what I deal with....I'd try to break down that question so it's a little more simple, also, if no one here knows (and they should) ask in #ubuntu-effects
[06:14] <portokaosol> Scunizi: nothing is going on
[06:14] <detedagowa> ok im installing now once i get on 6.06 can somone help me update to 6.10 because beyond 6.10 is all automated updating
[06:15] <Flannel> detedagowa: sure.  Server or desktop or what?
[06:15] <AzMoo> bob__: I see. *sigh*
[06:15] <detedagowa> desktop
[06:15] <Scunizi> portokaosol: sudo reboot now
[06:15] <hypercube> And yes,  restarting x does not help.
[06:15] <portokaosol> that worked!
[06:15] <PurpZeY> hypercube: Did you see my suggestion?
[06:15] <soldats> sudo shutdown -r now
[06:15] <detedagowa> somone had me put in all these things in a system file and i searched for updates and it popped right up
[06:15] <beerfan> detedagowa: update to 6.10 or 7.10? 6.04 is pretty old
[06:15] <Flannel> detedagowa: alright.  alt-f2 then `gksu "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"` which will bring up that file with the proper permissions.
[06:16] <portokaosol> now hopefully, everything should be fine
[06:16] <methods> all my windows keep opening up top left of the screen behind my top panel!
[06:16] <nickrud> whatever happend to just plain old   reboot   and    halt   , everyone is using the long typed shutdown -r now stuff
[06:16] <meoblast001> hello.. i use a ubuntu pc and a fedora server.... my server has no soundcard..... im looking for a source client for icecast that i can install on my fedora server that would allow me to use playlist files made on my ubuntu pc..... does anyone know of a program that can do that (keeping in mind the lack of a sound card)?
[06:16] <bob__> This dual boot box is ready to roll. Updates finally done...   back in a sec...
[06:16] <detedagowa> beerfan and flannel its almost done installing once i get on the real os ill get your guyses help ok?
[06:16] <beerfan> methods: enable the window placement compiz plugin
[06:17] <hypercube> Thanks, PurpZeY
[06:17] <daquino[laptop]> what did you say ?
[06:17] <detedagowa> ill be back in a bit ill tell yo when the install is done then ill log onto it
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah   I feel like myself again....
[06:17] <daquino[laptop]> im methods, daquino, chino
[06:18] <Flannel> detedagowa: Actually, Dapper has automated upgrades as well.  So you'll have automated the whole way.  Just follow the proper subpages : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:18] <methods> say again?
[06:18] <tuntun> well bob_ the problem is pretty simple: i make an ext3 paritition with parititionmagic, everything works fine, ubuntu installer refuses to use it and insists on reformatting it, unformunately it creates an ext paritition that is unusable in partitionmagic even though every ext3 paritition made with any other distro works fine including ubuntu up until edgy.
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> It isnt jack either  :)
[06:18] <nickrud> lol
[06:19] <tuntun> The file system on /dev/sda6 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[06:19] <tuntun> ^^qoute from ubuntu installer
[06:19] <scguy318> tuntun: PartMagic's ext3 support is VERY outdated
[06:19] <scguy318> tuntun: that thing can't handle anything modern
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: YEs, that is true... it Must format / for any install...
[06:19] <nickrud> tuntun, you say you created the partition in partition magic, but did you write the filesystem to it?
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: It does NOT create or recreate the partition
[06:20] <portokaosol> Scunizi and soldats: thanks a lot, that fixed the problem!
[06:20] <extracted> Installing this driver, will it conflict with Compiz ?
[06:20] <Scunizi> portokaosol: glad to hear it.. :)
[06:20] <nickrud> extracted, no, it works well, doesn't need xserver-xgl
[06:20] <tuntun> paritition magic has work with every ext paritition i have thrown at it
[06:21] <Flannel> tuntun: What youre saying is partition magic doesn't know how to work with UUIDs
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: Your quote has nothing to do with the partition not working or being ext3
[06:21] <beerfan> tuntun: just install the windows ext2 driver and stop complaining
[06:21] <Scunizi> Flannel: can he use uuid and labels for a drive at teh same time?
[06:22] <nickrud> yes, they are separate things, uuid's and labels
[06:22] <Scunizi> can't a drive with a uuid also have a label?
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Scunizi: yes
[06:22] <nickrud> I hope so, I mount via labels
[06:22] <tuntun> Jack_Sparrow: I posted it to illustrate the fact that ubuntu installer refuses to install to a preformatted ext3 paritition
[06:23] <Scunizi> that's maybe another approach for tuntun
[06:23] <daquino[laptop]> now i cant move any windows...
[06:24] <nickrud> tuntun, and that's not true, I've helped people install without formatting with the alternate
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: There are ways around that..  In fact I found one in the forums today.. where you go to partitioning then back out ...  it is possible, but what is your problem formatting /reformatting a freshly made partition.
[06:24] <tuntun> beerfan: well..I would love if it didn't routenly delete random files and lock up the system.
[06:25] <beerfan> tuntun: sounds like you have more issues than just partition magic then
[06:25] <MoonlightCat> !join dc락갤
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join dc락갤 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: If what didnt delete random files...
[06:25] <Kevin`> I no longer trust partition magic, free stuff works ok now anyway
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: IF you mean the now publicly acknowledged windows home server problem.. we cant do much about that.
[06:26] <tuntun> beerfan: well no, ext2 driver has the problem, so I started using partitionmagic and it has handled everything, up until ubuntu installers exr3
[06:26] <beerfan> Jack_Sparrow: he's referring to http://www.fs-driver.org/, or at least that's what I recommended he use instead
[06:27] <matholum> (dunno who is still there from before, but i fixed the boot!!!!!!!! sugoi da yo!!!)
[06:27] <tuntun> Jack_Sparrow: ext drivers for win
[06:27] <beerfan> tuntun: I use that driver and I have no issues that you describe.
[06:27] <Scunizi> matholum: how
[06:27] <NewUbuntuFan> .
[06:27] <Shane|BGSU> hey, i have a question!
[06:27] <Shane|BGSU> please?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> !ask
[06:27] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:27] <nickrud> !ask | Shane|BGSU
[06:27] <ubotu> Shane|BGSU: please see above
[06:28] <MasterShrek> ooh, i havent been here in a few days, new factoids eh?
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: If they are a problem. dont use them..  Setup a fat32 and deal with it or stop using windows.. NOT our problem
[06:28] <Shane|BGSU> is there an alternative to soulseek available for ubuntu?
[06:28] <nickrud> !brokenusplash
[06:28] <ubotu> Supported screen resolutions are sometimes detected incorrectly, causing the splash screen to not appear and slowing down boot. Edit /etc/usplash.conf and change "xres" and "yres" to a resolution that your graphics system certainly supports, then run « sudo update-usplash-theme usplash-theme-ubuntu »
[06:28] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: Frostwire
[06:28] <matholum> well... i removed the line after the options line that just said quiet and changed the file not just edit the boot line on boot
[06:28] <tuntun> beerfan: life is not always fair
[06:28] <Shane|BGSU> sudo apt-get frostwire?
[06:28] <Shane|BGSU> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[06:28] <beerfan> tuntun: quite right
[06:28] <scguy318> Shane|BGGSU: sudo apt-get install frostwire yep
[06:28] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: I don't *think* it's in the repos.
[06:29] <Shane|BGSU> i'm new to the command line, is that right?
[06:29] <PurpZeY> Apparently, I am wrong
[06:29] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: oh lemme check
[06:29] <PurpZeY> !frostwire
[06:29] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:29] <nickrud> !frostwire
[06:29] <matholum> i am so happy ^_^
[06:29] <Scunizi> matholum: cool.. quiet has to do wth the splach screen.. glad it's working  now.
[06:29] <deostroll> ifconfig eth0 showing wrong information...how should I fix it?
[06:29] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: Yup. sudo apt-get install
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all...
[06:29] <MasterShrek> frostwire isnt like soulseek
[06:29] <tuntun> beerfan: so we must look for what works.
[06:29] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: sudo apt-get install is appropriate, but the package doesn't exist in the repos
[06:29] <matholum> i didn't know there was another spot for quiet
[06:29] <PurpZeY> scguy318: You sure?
[06:30] <beerfan> tuntun: if you don't like any of the solutions provided, perhaps you're asking in the wrong place
[06:30] <Shane|BGSU> MasterShrek, what is it like?
[06:30] <scguy318> PurpZeY: well, didnt turn up when I did apt-cache search
[06:30] <Shane|BGSU> i'm just looking for something to get full albums on.