[03:37] <Skapare> TarBar: hmmm
[03:38] <TarBar> :/
[03:39] <wgato> anyone know why i'd get permission denied when trying to chroot from the livecd?
[03:39] <Skapare> TarBar: do this and put the results on a paste site like http:/rafb.net/paste/ ... ls -Alv /tmp/sda{1,2,5}
[03:39] <TheFunkbomb_> hey, should my wireless card be set to multicast?
[03:39] <fell_> I like the gnome one better
[03:39] <Skapare> wgato: didn't login as root
[03:40] <fell_> wgato: tried sudo?
[03:40] <wgato> i was root when i did it
[03:40] <Mike_lifeguard> is it possible to mount something with the bus/device numbers?
[03:40] <Skapare> wgato: the chroot directory doesn't allow execute
[03:40] <usr13> wgato: Give the exact command you used
[03:40] <el_taco> port 585 is used for imap4-ssl 993 is imaps.. what's the difference?
[03:40] <TarBar> Skapare: http://rafb.net/p/KPG4wd70.html
[03:41] <wgato> as root, mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, chroot /mnt
[03:41] <Skapare> TarBar: ouch ... they are empty ... do this and put its results up:  cat /proc/partitions
[03:42] <TheFunkbomb_> Anyone know if I should run my wireless as multicast or not?
[03:42] <usr13> wgato: Did  you successfully mount it on /mnt  (And /mnt was previously empty?)
[03:42] <TarBar> That can't be good, 1 sec.
[03:42] <wgato> yes, i can cd into it and see my hd
[03:42] <usr13> wgato: ls /mnt
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> TheFunkbomb_: I don't know. But I would be interested in the answer if someone else helps you.
[03:43] <usr13> wgato: /dev/sda1 is where your  root partition is?    /
[03:43] <TheFunkbomb_> Mike_lifeguard, I seriously screwed up my wireless lol
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> Meanwhile, I don't think I /can/ mount anything with the info I have :(
[03:43] <wgato> floopy/ /hda /live /sda1 /sda3 /sdb1
[03:44] <usr13> wgato: What CD did you use?  (Sure you're not already chrooted to it?)
[03:44] <wgato> ubuntu 7.10 live.  not sure about the already chroot into it
[03:44] <TarBar> Skapare: http://rafb.net/p/t7j3hi39.html
[03:45] <Mike_lifeguard> TheFunkbomb_: how? I just let ubuntu work it's magic, and here we are talking to one another :P
[03:45] <propagandhi> anybody know of any open source email archiving/search and retireval solutions
[03:45] <propagandhi> *retrieval
[03:45] <TheFunkbomb_> Mike_lifeguard, I put it into monitor mode and then back
[03:45] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[03:45] <usr13> wgato: You do not need to cd onto the mount point to mount it.  Ok?
[03:45] <TarBar> mmm
[03:46] <Skapare> TarBar: my bad ... need /proc/partitions
[03:46] <edgex-_> Awesome netsplit
[03:46] <wgato> usr13, yes
[03:46] <TarBar> I wrote out the wrong thing Skapare?
[03:46] <wgato> i dont need to, just saying i can
[03:46] <Skapare> TarBar: yeah but I gave the wrong command
[03:47] <Mike_lifeguard> edgex-_: no need to add to the noise level by talking about it, really :)
[03:47] <TarBar> GAH!
[03:47] <TarBar> Not again
[03:47] <TarBar> lol
[03:47] <usr13> wgato: Not sure why it would tell  you that you do not have permission.
[03:47] <edgex-_> Mike_lifeguard, aww :(
[03:47] <Skapare> TarBar: ouch ... they are empty ... do this and put its results up:  cat /proc/partitions <--- should be:  cat /proc/mounts
[03:47] <wgato> i am trying to follow these suggestions: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/crash-and-kernel-reinstall-719188/?posted=1#post3510908
[03:47] <Mike_lifeguard> edgex-_: #ubuntu iz srs biz :|
[03:47] <edgex-_> srs bsns
[03:47] <Lint01> mado
[03:47] <usr13> wgato: Try another boot disk
[03:48] <TarBar> Skapare: You want /proc/mounts?
[03:48] <Skapare> yes
[03:48] <TarBar> It's long o.o
[03:48] <TarBar> lol
[03:48] <Mike_lifeguard> OK, so I've read man mount and... still have no clue. I don't see any option that looks likely to work here.
[03:48] <uiyfkutf> man mount - oh yeah stick it in my ass
[03:49] <jedi06> usr13, where would it be under Hardware?
[03:49] <byby> ok i actually wanted to know if that kind of non mechanical encrypted hard drive exist to parchase and if that will be fine to use in linux
[03:49] <TheFunkbomb_> how do I boot my other name if I don't know the password?
[03:49] <usr13> jedi06: ?
[03:49] <jedi06> the cdrom
[03:49] <jedi06> I know it is in /dev/scd0
[03:50] <uiyfkutf> I accidentally the whole boot disk.
[03:50] <jedi06> vbox sees it
[03:50] <uiyfkutf> anyone?
[03:50] <Mike_lifeguard> uiyfkutf: maybe if you live close by :o
[03:50] <jedi06> usr13 where is the cdrom located in sysinfo i don't see it
[03:50] <usr13> jedi06: Storage devices
[03:50] <jedi06> ok i see it
[03:51] <bluejeans> TheFunkbomb_,  you mean another user? must have either password or root access
[03:52] <TarBar> Skapare: Almost done, Just takes a while to write out.
[03:52] <Skapare> TarBar: are you pasting the output to rafb one line at a time?
[03:52] <TarBar> Yeah
[03:52] <TarBar> Well writing it ou..
[03:53] <Skapare> oh, yeah, you aren't on IRC in the live CD system
[03:53] <TarBar> Nah
[03:53] <TarBar> Lol
[03:53] <perlooooooooo> hello
[03:53] <perlooooooooo> can anybody help me ?
[03:53] <pronto> depends
[03:53] <bluejeans> perlooooooooo, probably
[03:53] <Skapare> TarBar: maybe a digital camera would be handy :)
[03:53] <pronto> what is your issue?
[03:53] <jedi06> usr13 is there any way to get more info on the cdrom like firmware?
[03:53] <TarBar> Skapare: mmm lol
[03:53] <Skapare> TarBar: I've done debugging that way, too
[03:53] <wgato> my real problem is that ubuntu wont boot.  stops at
[03:53] <wgato> Init: Error parsing configuration: No such file or directory
[03:53] <TarBar> Skapare: It's a pain in the ass eh.
[03:53] <dadokiek> Hello, I'm rather new to this whole thing. Is making a CD required?
[03:54] <Skapare> TarBar: when I get a kernel panic and it's hard frozen, the camera documents it
[03:54] <Cream> !netsplit
[03:54] <jedi06> Is there any way to get more info on the cdrom like firmware?
[03:54] <xangua> dadokiek: making a cd for what ¿¿
[03:54] <Skapare> dadokiek: you can ask to have them send you a CD
[03:54] <bluejeans> dadokiek, are you talking about an iso?
[03:55] <ahmad> hi
[03:55] <ahmad> i need some help with compiz
[03:55] <TarBar> Skapare: http://rafb.net/p/FSujHU85.html
[03:55]  * Skapare has switched to using USB keys instead of CD/DVD
[03:55] <dadokiek> I downloaded the zip file and I'm not sure if I have to make the CD to run the new OS. I'm currently on vista
[03:55] <Hassanakevazir> dadokiek, what do you want to do?
[03:55] <Hassanakevazir> !ask
[03:56] <jedi06> How do i find out what firmware my cdrom has
[03:56] <bluejeans> ahmad,  and all : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:56] <xangua> dadokiek: the ZIP file ¿¿??
[03:56] <Mike_lifeguard> Where would I find a description of error codes for lsusb?
[03:56] <ahmad> ubottu: sorry
[03:56] <dadokiek> I just downloaded ubuntu and not sure how to run it
[03:56] <somedud3> hey whats the best FS to use for a slow IDE drive ?
[03:56] <TheFunkbomb> TheFunkbomb_
[03:56] <TheFunkbomb> hmm
[03:56] <perlooooooooo> ok so here is my problem i am trying to set up a web server at home so i installed apache and opened the port 80 of my router.so far so good.
[03:56] <perlooooooooo> when my friend is trying to see the website everything works fine until when the url in the host goes from http://Myipadress/index.com to http://localhost/index.com .i think this is hapenng because we are in the same network we are both using a the same wifi connection. how can i fix that?
[03:56] <Skapare> TarBar: looks like something else already mounted them elsewhere
[03:57] <xangua> dadokiek: Ubuntu GNU/Linux is an OS, is not a program
[03:57] <Skapare> TarBar: do this:   ls -ld /media/sda{1,2}/usr
[03:57] <xangua> you have to burn the image to run it in your computer
[03:57] <dadokiek> I'm not exactly sure how to run the OS
[03:57] <perlooooooooo> thanks for helping
[03:57] <plcTowlie> I'm having an issue with skype.  When I open it, the window briefly appears and then closes.  When launched from terminal it simply gives the message 'Aborted'.  I've googled, found one other person with similar issue, but no resolution.
[03:57] <TarBar> Skapare: No such file or directory for both of them.
[03:57] <dadokiek> That's what I mean. So I need to burn the image, then restart my computer?
[03:57] <jedi06> Is there anyway to find out the firmware version of my cdrom YES/NO?
[03:58] <TheFunkbomb> could someone connected via wireless do an ifconfig and post the results to a pastebin?
[03:58] <Mike_lifeguard> dadokiek: yes
[03:58] <Skapare> TarBar:  ls -Alv /media/sda{1,2}
[03:58] <Skapare> TarBar: see if there is anything in there
[03:58] <zgmf-x42s> hey all.  i have a bit of a difficult question. i am looking for a open source database program to keep track of resumes (able to put notes in, etc,), create forms such as business reports for each consultant, basically a HR system.  any ideas??  or maybe a database with templates that i can customize??
[03:58] <perlooooooooo> what do you mean?
[03:58] <Mike_lifeguard> dadokiek: with the CD in the drive (& boot to the CD -- right at the beginning of boot you'll see an option to choose boot options or something similar - use that to choose to boot from cdrom)
[03:58] <TarBar> Skapare: That's huge, What am i looking for?
[03:58] <dadokiek> I've also heard something about linux eating windows if it isn't partitioned properly, is this true? If it is how could I prevent it?
[03:58] <xangua> dadokiek: you are supossed to burn an ISO file, not a ZIP............
[03:59] <el_taco> zgmf-x42s mysql or sqlite
[03:59] <Skapare> TarBar: how many files would be a start
[03:59] <Mike_lifeguard> dadokiek: it's possible to screw up, but *I* did it no problem (and I had to do it the hard way)
[03:59] <dadokiek> sorry, zip and iso are the same icon currently
[03:59] <TarBar> Skapare: That lists the contents of my C disk however ubuntu is installed on the D disk.
[03:59] <zgmf-x42s> el_taco: do those come with templates??
[03:59] <somedud3> whats the best FS to use for a slow IDE drive ?
[03:59] <Skapare> TarBar: so on partition 2?
[03:59] <TarBar> Probably like 30 files.
[03:59] <MyKul> dadokiek:  You can also use Wubi
[04:00] <dadokiek> so it's as simple as just burning the iso, and then restarting and it will ask me to choose the OS when I do so?
[04:00] <dadokiek> use wubi????
[04:00] <Skapare> TarBar: type a few of them on ONE line here
[04:00] <TarBar> ok
[04:00] <TheFunkbomb> Could someone connected via wireless please do an ifconfig and post the results to a pastebin for me?
[04:00] <Hassanakevazir> dadokiek, when the parition part of the setup comes up, pay attention not to delete your old windows partition. If you are in doubt, try wubi then
[04:00] <TarBar> Skapare: Do you need all the permissions and stuff for them or just the file/folder names
[04:00] <el_taco> zgmf-x42s sorry misunderstood the question... those are just the backend databases.. no gui with them.
[04:01] <Skapare> TarBar: just a few names so I can see where it is
[04:01] <MyKul> dadokiek:  It's a Windows based installer that installs Ubuntu as a program inside of Windows... I've done it both ways, and I recommend a native installation, but if you're just looking for a trial, it's quick and easy.
[04:01] <dadokiek> how would I use wubi?
[04:01] <zgmf-x42s> el_taco: hmmm ic, yes i am looking for a full solution, with gui, etc
[04:01] <dadokiek> oh
[04:01] <Skapare> TarBar: if it is / then there should be a directory named usr
[04:01] <MyKul> dadokiek:  You can use any application that will mount an ISO file, and then just do the autorun.
[04:01] <macvr> hi all... is anybody having problems with launchpad? i'm not able to comment/report bugs, open url just times out!
[04:01] <dadokiek> wubi isn't the same though, is it?
[04:02] <Hassanakevazir> dadokiek, just put the cd in when you are in windows and the autorun will show it to you
[04:02] <somedud3> whats the best FS to use for a slow IDE drive ?
[04:02] <TarBar> Skapare: wubildr.mbr,Program Files, Recycler, MSDOS. On sda1 there is winbom.ini,ntldr,Valueadd.
[04:02] <Skapare> TarBar: I have 30 mins max remaining
[04:02] <TarBar> ah
[04:02] <Skapare> TarBar: that's a Windows partition
[04:02] <MyKul> dadokiek:  It's an installed version of Ubuntu, and it's a full version, but it's not as fast, and I've run into some issues with it in the past.  If you're looking for a permanent installation, I woudn't do it, but if you're just trying Ubuntu, then it works well.
[04:02] <plcTowlie> 'm having an issue with skype.  When I open it, the window briefly appears and then closes.  When launched from terminal it simply gives the message 'Aborted'.  I've googled, found one other person with similar issue, but no resolution.  Reinstallation does not resolve issue.
[04:03] <h00k> so, if I have a backtrace dealing with nVidia, is it smart to report it to Launchpad or will that not help at all because nVidia has to fix it anyway?
[04:03] <Skapare> TarBar: what's in the other one?
[04:03] <Mike_lifeguard> dadokiek: wubi is apparently not recommended - I'd just do a normal dual-boot installation
[04:03] <MyKul> dadokiek: I agree with Mike_lifeguard, but if you're looking for a quick and dirty trial, it does in a pinch.
[04:03] <dadokiek> After burning the image, restart the comp with that disk in, correct?
[04:03] <Mike_lifeguard> yes
[04:03] <MyKul> Yeppers.
[04:03] <TarBar> sda1 has winbom.ini,ntldr,sony.i01,support,recycler,APR
[04:03] <dadokiek> alrighty
[04:04]  * Skapare has noticed over the years that making a dual-boot system has been a major source of actually making a zero-boot system
[04:04] <MyKul> If you installed Vista, then you can install Ubuntu, it's an easier installation.
[04:04] <Skapare> TarBar: that is Windows, too
[04:04] <Mike_lifeguard> dadokiek: you'll get a session in ubuntu when you do, so you can come back here to get help if you need to (easier than printing out a hard copy of the instructions or something :D )
[04:04] <dadokiek> The comp came with vista :P
[04:04] <TarBar> Skapare: I need to mount my D drive then.
[04:04] <DansTheMan> Guys, i really need help installing Ubuntu!
[04:04] <Skapare> TarBar: partition 5 ?
[04:04] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: specifically with what?
[04:04] <DansTheMan> Can someone here help me, please?
[04:04] <dadokiek> Thank you so much! You all really helped out a lot
[04:04] <DansTheMan> Installing
[04:04] <h00k> !ask DansTheMan
[04:04] <Skapare> TarBar: 2 windows partitions ... has to be C: and D: right there
[04:05] <MyKul> dadokiek:  Enjoy it!
[04:05] <DansTheMan> I'm on step 4 and i don't know how to pass it
[04:05] <h00k> !ask | DansTheMan
[04:05] <terry> tes
[04:05] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: ok, but where are you in the installation process, and what is the problem?
[04:05] <DansTheMan> lol
[04:05] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Step 4
[04:05] <DansTheMan> I want to keep Windows on the machine as well as install Ubuntu
[04:05] <MyKul> DansTheMan: Which step is step 4?
[04:05] <TarBar> Skapare: It's sda5 you are correct.
[04:05] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: I don't know what "step 4" is :)
[04:05] <DansTheMan> I have selected Manual
[04:05] <DansTheMan> instead of entire disk
[04:05] <Hassanakevazir> !medibuntu | plcTowlie
[04:05] <Skapare> TarBar: windows can map letter designations to other partitions ... can't be sure of what they are
[04:05] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: It's that partitioning part
[04:05] <MyKul> Oh, you're doing the partitioning..
[04:05] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: yes, I got stuck there too! Do you see an option to re-partition the drive?
[04:06] <Skapare> TarBar: mount /dev/sda5 /tmp/sda5
[04:06] <DansTheMan> I don't want to re-partition the drive
[04:06] <MyKul> DansTheMan: Do you have unpartitioned space on your drive?
[04:06] <DansTheMan> there are 3 options under the tree \dev\sda
[04:06] <Hassanakevazir> plcTowlie, try un installing your skype, and installing the one available through medibuntu repository
[04:06] <DansTheMan> MyKul: No idea :p
[04:06] <TarBar> Skapare: All of that in one line?
[04:06] <DansTheMan> \dev\sda1 \dev\sda2 and \dev\sda3
[04:06] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: I'm pretty sure you do, unless you happen to have extra partitions of the right types just laying around O.o
[04:06] <plcTowlie> HAssan, I have tried both that, and using the .deb install package from direct download, both with the same results
[04:07] <Skapare> TarBar: that's a mount command to mount partition /dev/sda5 on directory /tmp/sda5
[04:07] <DansTheMan> I'm trying to install to sda3, but it says Used space is unknown and when i select it and press forward it said wrong file-system or something
[04:07] <H_M-Ubuntu> Hey could someone check out my post on Ubuntuforums, it's about GTK+.. If you have an answer to it please tell me, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127848
[04:07] <Skapare> TarBar: so yeah, all in one command ... that's a small command ... I've typed in commands here that are many times longer
[04:07] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: what is sda3? type, size?
[04:07] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Please help me? :)
[04:07] <TarBar> Skapare: it says fusermount: mountpoint is not empty, if you are sure this is safe use the nonempty mount option. Failed to create FUse mount point, no such file or directory.
[04:07]  * Mike_lifeguard is!
[04:07] <DansTheMan> Size os 54000 mbs
[04:08] <DansTheMan> I suspect it is drive D:
[04:08] <zgmf-x42s> hey all.  i have a bit of a difficult question. i am looking for a open source database program to keep track of resumes (able to put notes in, etc,), create forms such as business reports for each consultant, basically a HR system.  any ideas??  or maybe a database with templates that i can customize??
[04:08] <DansTheMan> C: contains Windows
[04:08] <DansTheMan> I want to install Ubuntu onto drive D:
[04:08] <Hassanakevazir> plcTowlie, then i'm out of ideas :/ since there is no terminal message.
[04:08] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: ok, so you need to shrink that partition to make room for the ubuntu partitions
[04:08] <DansTheMan> and they're all ntfs
[04:08] <plcTowlie> the only terminal message is 'Aborted'
[04:08] <HorizonXP> hey guys, i'm a Gentoo user, but Ubuntu Jaunty's shaping up to be quite nice! Congrats on a job well done.
[04:08] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: I don't think you need to compile gtk+
[04:08] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: How?
[04:08] <DansTheMan> I also don't want to lose all data on that drive
[04:08] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: so, there is no option to resize right now, amirite?
[04:08] <FreedomIce> anyone know how to check if apc is running?
[04:09]  * Mike_lifeguard stabs the installer again
[04:09] <H_M-Ubuntu> I do if I want to create applications... but continue
[04:09] <FreedomIce> other than through php.info
[04:09] <usser> zgmf-x42s, try openoffice base, its like access
[04:09] <H_M-Ubuntu> If you have another method, please explain.
[04:09] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Hold on, let me check :)
[04:09] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: look for libgtk2.0, libgtk2.0-dev, and their related libraries in the package manager
[04:09] <iheartwindows_> exit
[04:09] <x2k56vj8j> i hate all of you
[04:09] <x2k56vj8j> Q!!!!
[04:09] <x2k56vj8j> fucking hate all of you
[04:09] <x2k56vj8j> sd
[04:09] <FloodBot2> x2k56vj8j: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <x2k56vj8j> fsad
[04:09] <Skapare> TarBar: I guess knoppix is using fuse for everything ... all bets are off until I know how it has it configured
[04:09] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Nope
[04:09] <H_M-Ubuntu> I believe I have them, i'll check.
[04:09] <Skapare> TarBar: find a way to burn an Ubuntu CD/DVD
[04:09] <Skapare> TarBar: FYI, you can burn a CD ISO to a DVD
[04:10] <Lint01> why ubuntu installer wants to format "/" partition, even if no 'format' checkbox is set?
[04:10] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: you will also need the -dev versions of certain library packages
[04:10] <TarBar> mmm brb.
[04:10] <H_M-Ubuntu> I'm aware of that.
[04:10] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: ok I think you will have to use Gparted to do the partitioning (which will hopefully work for you, it didn't for me, I had to use the terminal to do it (which wasn't a nice intro to ubuntu)
[04:10] <lstarnes> Lint01: it needs a clean / partition
[04:10] <Skapare> TarBar: and I need to be gone in about 20 minutes
[04:10] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Sorry, i don't understand
[04:10] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: so, open System > Administration > Partition editor
[04:10] <DansTheMan> How?
[04:10] <zgmf-x42s> usser: yes, i have looked at that, but the whole thing has to be customized, its not an up and running solution, thanks though
[04:10] <DansTheMan> I am on the installer.
[04:10] <DansTheMan> I have Windows Vista
[04:10] <Mike_lifeguard> with the mouse?
[04:11] <Lint01> is there way to make 'upgrade' install, without deleting anything existing?
[04:11] <TarBar> Skapare: I have found a ubuntu disc, I will try it.
[04:11] <DansTheMan> And trying to install Ubuntu Desktop Edition 8.10
[04:11] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Umm, hold on
[04:11] <Skapare> TarBar: OK
[04:11] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: are you in a live session from booting the ubuntu disc?
[04:11] <lstarnes> Lint01: which version of ubuntu do you have installed already?
[04:11] <H_M-Ubuntu> The only one I didn't have was libgtk2.0-dev or equivalent.
[04:11] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: There is no system
[04:11] <Lint01> 8.10, and I want to re-install it
[04:11]  * H_M-Ubuntu tries compiling something
[04:12] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: I don't know, i burned the ISO to a dvd rw and i booted from that disk
[04:12] <Skapare> TarBar: boot, login, terminal, "sudo /bin/bash", "mkdir /tmp/sda5", "mount /dev/sda5 /tmp/sda5", "ls -ld /tmp/sda5/usr"
[04:12] <DansTheMan> I selected Install ubuntu
[04:12] <DansTheMan> I was following the steps and am now on step 4
[04:12] <lstarnes> Lint01: you want to reinstall 8.10?
[04:12] <DansTheMan> out of 7
[04:12] <Lint01> istarnes, yes
[04:12] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: yeah, ok. So are you not in a session of ubuntu right now? like you have the ubuntu desktop and the installer is in a window?
[04:12] <DansTheMan> Yes
[04:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> No, it didn't work.
[04:13]  * H_M-Ubuntu pastebins.
[04:13] <zgmf-x42s> hmmmmmmmmmmm orangge HRM looks good
[04:13] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: ok, so across the top of your screen there should be a bar with "applications" "places" and "system"
[04:13] <lstarnes> Lint01: then you will most likely need to reformat your / partition (and my nick starts with a lowercase L, not an i)
[04:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/m6167cf28
[04:13] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: click "system" then "advanced" then "partition editor"
[04:13] <DansTheMan> No, there is no task abr
[04:13] <DansTheMan> *bar
[04:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> lstarnes, ^^^^
[04:14] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: did you have libgtk2.0-dev installed when you did that?
[04:14] <H_M-Ubuntu> Yes
[04:14] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: you are likely missing some -I and -l/-L flags
[04:15] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: I have the Desktop and this window titled install
[04:15] <DansTheMan> And a visible cursor
[04:15] <DansTheMan> That is it
[04:15] <TarBar> Skapare: The livecd is freezing on "try ubuntu without any change to your computer" Guh!
[04:15] <H_M-Ubuntu> Ok so how do I compile it then?
[04:15] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: yes... is there not a bar at the top of the desktop?
[04:15] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: try gcc $(gtk-config --cflags) $(gtk-config --libs) -o pbExampleTEST pbExample.c
[04:15] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: like the bar with the start button on Windows, only at the top
[04:15] <Skapare> TarBar: booting from drive attached to ... IDE? SATA? USB?
[04:16] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: I know, the task bar is not visible
[04:16] <Mike_lifeguard> huh
[04:16] <MyKul> Mike_lifeguard:  It sounds like he's using the Windows installer.
[04:16] <DansTheMan> That's what it's called, Task bar
[04:16] <DansTheMan> MyKul: I am not, i have booted from the disc
[04:16] <H_M-Ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/m530ef0fd
[04:16] <TarBar> Skapare: I have no idea, It's a laptop, not usb though.
[04:16] <Hassanakevazir> H_M-Ubuntu, or the pbExample.c file doesn't have the proper the proper '#include'
[04:16] <Skapare> TarBar: you are logged into IRC from a Unix/Linux box?  Can the machine with troubles boot from a USB key?
[04:16] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: does it appear when you move your mouse to the top?
[04:16] <macvr> hi all... is anybody having problems with launchpad? i'm not able to comment/report bugs, open url just times out!
[04:17] <DansTheMan> Umm, let me check :)
[04:17] <MyKul> DansTheMan:  And you don't have a menu at the top that says Applications Places System?
[04:17] <ziroday> macvr: ask in #launchpad
[04:17] <Skapare> laptop probably IDE or SATA ... not sure why it freezes unless disk is bad
[04:17] <Mike_lifeguard> macvr: yeah, I've had quite some timeoutes recently
[04:17] <Mike_lifeguard> +spelling
[04:17] <TarBar> Probably disk.
[04:17] <DansTheMan> nope
[04:17] <Skapare> TarBar: reboot and try the memory test for fun
[04:17] <Mike_lifeguard> O.o
[04:17] <Mike_lifeguard> MyKul: do you know what is going on there?
[04:17] <DansTheMan> what?
[04:17] <macvr> ziroday: Mike_lifeguard ... thanx..
[04:17] <TarBar> Ok
[04:17] <DansTheMan> MyKul: Nope
[04:18] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: there should be a bar there... though I guess you can open in terminal (don't recall how)
[04:18] <MyKul> Not a clue... sounds like Gnome didn't load all the way.
[04:18] <DansTheMan> These are the steps i did in order to get to this
[04:18] <MyKul> What color is the desktop?
[04:18] <TarBar> freezes on test memory :P
[04:18] <TarBar> I might just re-install ubunt..
[04:18] <DansTheMan> I downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop Edition
[04:18] <Skapare> TarBar: if you are on unix/linux on the IRC machine, and the other machine can boot from USB key, and if you have a spare USB key at least big enough for the ISO + 10MB ... I can tell you how to make it boot the ISO
[04:18] <DansTheMan> I burned the ISO to a DVD+RW disc
[04:18] <yoshimit> Hi there... I installed ubuntu-xen-desktop but my Grub was not touched... seems the kernel xen wasn't installed... how to install the kernel xen on ubuntu ? thank you.
[04:18] <DansTheMan> I restarted the computer, making sure i booted from the disc
[04:18] <DansTheMan> which is what happened
[04:18] <TarBar> This one is windows.
[04:19] <DansTheMan> I got this menu to select and language, i chose english
[04:19] <H_M-Ubuntu> Err.. anyone still there for my problem?..
[04:19] <Mike_lifeguard> MyKul: would it matter that it was a dvd?
[04:19] <Skapare> TarBar: then I can't tell you how to make the USB key from there :-(
[04:19] <DansTheMan> It said either "Try Ubuntu, Install Ubuntu and some other stuff i can't remember"
[04:19] <DansTheMan> it was loading
[04:19] <uiyfkutf> Linux isn't as good as windows because it doesn't cost any money
[04:19] <DansTheMan> And then it came up with the steps
[04:19] <TarBar> Skapare: Thanks for all of your help, I think I will just have to reinstall though ):
[04:19] <uiyfkutf> I can get someone free out of the gutter
[04:19] <Skapare> uiyfkutf: go get a bailout
[04:19] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: did you check the md5 before burning? Did you check the disc's integrity after burning? before starting the installer?
[04:19] <DansTheMan> It said to select a language, which i did
[04:19]  * H_M-Ubuntu shoots uiyfkutf - Kidding.
[04:19] <uiyfkutf> something*
[04:19] <DansTheMan> then to set your city, which i did
[04:19] <tritium> uiyfkutf: stay on topic, please
[04:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> lstarnes, you still there?
[04:20] <uiyfkutf> ubuntu isn't as good as windows because it doesn't cost any money
[04:20] <DansTheMan> then on to step 3 to set the keyboard layout
[04:20] <DansTheMan> which i did
[04:20] <thiebaude> uiyfkutf: you dont own your OS
[04:20] <uiyfkutf> quality is worse
[04:20] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: hold on, I think I figured out the problem
[04:20] <DansTheMan> now on step 4, partitioning
[04:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> K
[04:20] <Hassanakevazir> !troll
[04:20] <uiyfkutf> Why do I need to
[04:20] <thiebaude> uiyfkutf: go away
[04:20] <Skapare> TarBar: if you haven't lost too much, that's a reasonable option ... been there done that too many times myself
[04:20] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: No. I doubt the file is corrupt
[04:20] <Mike_lifeguard> Who remembers what the default keyboard shortcut is for opening terminal?
[04:20] <Kethal_> Is there a live CD for Ubunutu, i.e. a CD I can boot from without having to install everything to the hard disk.
[04:20] <jedi06> why does my 4gb flash drive that is empty say there is only 3.5gb free?
[04:20] <Mike_lifeguard> Kethal_: yes
[04:21] <Mike_lifeguard> the normal one does that
[04:21] <Mike_lifeguard> it runs slowly, obviously
[04:21] <Skapare> TarBar: in one job many years ago I had to install Slackware on 600 computers in 2 days
[04:21] <MyKul> Mike_lifeguard:  He can hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 to drop out of X.
[04:21] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: that's for you :)
[04:21] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: I got ubuntu from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:21] <Kethal_> Mike_lifeguard: Just download the regular install CD?
[04:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> lstarnes, this is the .c file I was trying to compile: http://pastebin.com/m5851b22e
[04:21] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: try this: gcc $(pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0) -o pbExampleTEST pbExample.c
[04:21] <Mike_lifeguard> Kethal_: yes
[04:21] <DansTheMan> I selected my mirror and rpessed Begin Download
[04:21] <MyKul> once he's out of X, he can do apt-get install gparted
[04:21] <jedi06> I need to put something 3.8gb on it and i can't even though its 4gb flash drive and it empty it says only 3.5gb free
[04:21] <TarBar> Skapare: Will just copying the /home folder and getting a list of packages then re-installing be ok? or is there some other directory I should backup?
[04:21] <DansTheMan> It began downloading the iso
[04:21] <MyKul> Then when he runs it, it should show back up in the X screen.
[04:22] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: yeah, me too... I got 2 coasters before this one that worked :D
[04:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> That worked
[04:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> It worked!
[04:22] <DansTheMan> ok, on terminal
[04:22] <DansTheMan> :)
[04:22] <Mike_lifeguard> H_M-Ubuntu: so do a happy dance
[04:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> I AM!!!!
[04:22]  * H_M-Ubuntu is dancing
[04:22] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: I accidentally gave the instructionsfor gtk 1.2 before instead of gtk+ 2.0
[04:22] <MrKlown> why doesn't the firefox browser work the same on ubuntu as it does for windows? i can't get a flash game to load and work right eventhough i have the same versionof flash install
[04:22] <lstarnes> *instructions
[04:22] <Skapare> TarBar: that should be about it ... always back up important stuff ... external hard drives and flash devices are wonderful for this these days
[04:22] <ziroday> MrKlown: does youtube work?
[04:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> Ok, so that is how I need to compile things from now on?
[04:22] <MrKlown> yes ziro
[04:22] <Mike_lifeguard> MyKul: can you help him some? I dunno what I'm doing in terminal, generally speaking :)
[04:23] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: for gtk+ programs, yes
[04:23] <aasfdas> Why do I need to own my OS?
[04:23]  * Skapare has all his pr0nz and tun3z backed up 3x
[04:23] <DansTheMan> lol
[04:23] <TarBar> Lol
[04:23] <ziroday> MrKlown: then its a flash bug. Nothing we can do about it.
[04:23] <MrKlown> to give an example www.iamklown.com/Screenshot.jpg the blue box is not supposed to show up and start is not clickable
[04:23] <MrKlown> oh ok
[04:23] <MyKul> DansTheMan:  Login if you haven't, then type in "apt-get install gparted", minus the " of course.
[04:23] <DansTheMan> ok
[04:23] <TarBar> Skapare: I can only think that all my stuff is in /home or does ubuntu hide anything?
[04:23] <lstarnes> H_M-Ubuntu: it is common to have Makefiles take care of compilation instead of doing everything manyally
[04:23] <Mike_lifeguard> And now, maybe I have a little bit of karma that will get me some help with mounting a USB device which is listed in lsusb but not fdisk -l ?
[04:24] <ziroday> MrKlown: err I get a 404 error on that site
[04:24] <MrKlown> i gave the wrong link but it doesn't matter now
[04:24] <ktdcjkhytrfd> Why do I need to own my OS?
[04:24] <MyKul> DansTheMan:  DOH, forgot the sudo.. sorry, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[04:24] <MrKlown> www.iamklown.com/Screenshot.png
[04:24] <MrKlown> lol
[04:24] <Kethal_> jedi06: A gigabyte is by definition 10^9 bytes, but computer people use 2^30 by convention, which is larger.
[04:24] <MyKul> I always do that...
[04:24] <lstarnes> !ops | ktdcjkhytrfd
[04:24] <DansTheMan> MyKul: How do i login>?
[04:24] <ziroday> MrKlown: thats an image...not a flash file
[04:24] <ktdcjkhytrfd> hello
[04:24] <ktdcjkhytrfd> stop kicking me
[04:24] <ktdcjkhytrfd> and answer me
[04:24] <ktdcjkhytrfd> Why do I need to own my OS?
[04:24] <FloodBot2> ktdcjkhytrfd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <MrKlown> ziro it's a screenshot of a flash file lol
[04:25] <Hassanakevazir> Does anyone know a way to move 1TB from a hard disk that stops responding ever 2-3 minutes and unmounts
[04:25]  * Skapare bows out for now ... be back later (maybe days not hours)
[04:25] <MrKlown> a screenshot i made
[04:25] <MyKul> DansTheMan: Well, when you're at the black screen, it should be asking for your login...
[04:25] <ziroday> MrKlown: right, well can I have link to the actual flash file?
[04:25] <Kethal_> jedi06: Since manufacturers use 10^9, a fact many people don't realize, it's actually fewer bytes than they expect.
[04:25] <MrKlown> it's a myspace app ziro
[04:25] <MyKul> DansTheMan: Just enter your user name, hit enter, and it should request your password.  Enter it, and you should get a prompted
[04:25] <Hassanakevazir> ktdcjkhytrfd, please offopics go to #ubuntu-offtopic , this is the help channel
[04:25] <MrKlown> so i can't actually link to it
[04:25] <DansTheMan> I didn't set up a username!
[04:25] <Mike_lifeguard> MyKul: only he's got nothing installed yet... there's no users setup
[04:26] <ziroday> MrKlown: right, well anyway. Its a flash bug, we can't fix it as flash is closed source
[04:26] <Mike_lifeguard> (frankly, I'd just reboot & hope it loads properly the second time :D)
[04:26] <DansTheMan> MyKul: Also, when i entered sudo apt-get gparted it said "E: Invalid operation gparted"
[04:26] <H_M-Ubuntu> K so gcc $(pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0) -o... i'll have to write that down.
[04:26] <H_M-Ubuntu> Thanks again mate.
[04:26] <MyKul> DansTheMan:  Scraping the bottom of the barrel of memory here, but I think it's ubuntu and a blank password, but it might be ubuntu too.. I haven't done it for a couple years.
[04:26] <DansTheMan> wait nevermind
[04:26]  * H_M-Ubuntu has been scratching his head on this for a few weeks.
[04:26] <MrKlown> that sucks
[04:26] <DansTheMan> i forgot install
[04:26] <Kethal_> Mike_lifeguard: thanks
[04:26] <Hassanakevazir> Anyone know how I can move large amounts of data with many interruptions without loosing any of the progress
[04:27] <Lint01> Hassanakevazir: torrent
[04:27] <DansTheMan> Ok i enetered sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:27] <jtaji> Hassanakevazir: rsync
[04:27] <DansTheMan> and it came up building dependancy tree, etc, etc
[04:27] <MyKul> DansTheMan:  Wait, it said "E: Invalid Operation"?  That's a Windows error.
[04:27] <H_M-Ubuntu> Anyway now the fun part, developing my application.....
[04:27] <DansTheMan> MyKul: It said "E: invalid operation gparted"
[04:27] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: When you booted, did you boot into windows at all?
[04:27] <DansTheMan> no, from the disc
[04:28] <Hassanakevazir> Lint01, its a local usb hard drive, jtaji thx , i'll look into that
[04:28] <DansTheMan> My boot order is disc first then hdd
[04:28] <chronofire> i restarted my pc now it looks like the resolution is low
[04:28] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: like, at the beginning you went into the boot options and forced it to boot from cd
[04:28] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: yes
[04:28] <Mike_lifeguard> argh! I dunno what's going on
[04:28] <MyKul> Heh, OK, that is an apt error, my bad.. never seen that before.
[04:28] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Neither do i!
[04:28]  * Mike_lifeguard wishes to be able to see your screen :P
[04:28] <chronofire> it was set at 1680x1050 now the highest it can go is to 1024 and 1680x1050 isnt even an option
[04:28] <MyKul> I had to try it.. it happens when you don't add the install to the apt-get.
[04:29] <DansTheMan> MyKul: 13:26	DansTheMan	Ok i enetered sudo apt-get install gparted 13:26	jtaji	Hassanakevazir: rsync 13:26	DansTheMan	and it came up building dependancy tree, etc, etc
[04:29] <DansTheMan> hmm
[04:29] <jtaji> Hassanakevazir: for local it's easy, just like cp, rsync -av source dest
[04:30] <jjrev> does anyone know the vga code for 1920x1080 to use in grub's menu.list ???
[04:30] <DansTheMan> This is ridiculous
[04:30] <DansTheMan> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:30] <DansTheMan> It was supposed to be "easy"
[04:30] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: deep breath, restart, hope it loads properly?
[04:30] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: you think that's hard?!
[04:30] <DansTheMan> I think it did
[04:30] <Hassanakevazir> jtaji, great, It has a page full of flag options and 3000 lines of man page. that simplified it.
[04:30] <MyKul> DansTheMan:  OK, after if finishes the "building the dependancy tree" stuff, you should be able to type in "sudo gparted".. It'll kick you back to graphics mode, but you should have the partitioner...
[04:30] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Not overally, but i must admit, Windows was a lot easier :)
[04:30] <Mike_lifeguard> well you didn't install it did you
[04:30] <ziroday> DansTheMan: if the install didn't complete, why not reinstall?
[04:30] <chronofire> i restarted my pc and now my resolution is off and the correct resolution isnt showing up whats wrong?
[04:31] <MyKul> DansTheMan:  Don't worry, I'm going to be going through the same stuff next week... have a rebuild coming up.. :D
[04:31] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: for perspective, I had to use ntfsresize --bad-sectors and parted from terminal to partition my drive (not fun) - I don't think you're quite to that point yet, so count your blessings :P
[04:31] <Venko> Am I right in thinking that the significant lag I'm experiencing in Jaunty is due to a regression in the Intel drivers used in Ubuntu?
[04:32] <DansTheMan> MyKul: gpartedbin:16073: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:32] <DansTheMan> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[04:32] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: you can use parted (ie commandline, not the graphical frontend)
[04:32] <MyKul> Crap.
[04:32] <Mike_lifeguard> maybe
[04:32] <MyKul> You're going to have to walk him through that.. I've never used it.
[04:32] <Mike_lifeguard> and... I have cut my tongue
[04:33] <DansTheMan> Jesus christ!
[04:33] <DansTheMan> Why does it have to be so confusing!
[04:33] <MyKul> Where?
[04:33] <Mike_lifeguard> in my mouth
[04:33] <MyKul> Jesus Christ is in your mouth?
[04:33]  * Mike_lifeguard looks up the mailing list posts...
[04:33] <tritium> DansTheMan: please, calm down.
[04:33] <Mike_lifeguard> no, I cut my tongue in my mouth :D
[04:34] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: hold on a moment, I will walk you through using parted
[04:34] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: Will it work and not screw up my computer and keep Windows?
[04:34] <chronofire> i restarted my pc and now my resolution is off and the correct resolution isnt showing up whats wrong? i cant fix this
[04:34] <ienorand> Venko: There have been several reports about issues, yes. there's some points in the release notes about possibility of downgrading I think...
[04:34] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: It worked for me, so "probably"
[04:34] <efrenefren> hello.
[04:35] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: (there are no warranties on irc)
[04:35] <tritium> Venko: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support.
[04:35] <Venko> ienorand: As in the packages in the repositories may be downgraded or there's instructions for me to do it?
[04:35] <krishnan> can someone tell me what is twitter? Where and all it can be used?
[04:35] <Venko> OK tritium
[04:35] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: lol, i know :p But do you also have Windows installed?
[04:35] <Mike_lifeguard> Yes
[04:35] <DansTheMan> ok
[04:35] <MyKul> krishnan:  It's a microblog.. check out http://www.twitter.com
[04:35] <DansTheMan> Vista?
[04:35] <digitalchemist> @krishnan: www.twitter.com   ... 140-characters of status updates per entry ('micro-blogging')
[04:35] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, crap, you have vista, which apparently is finnicky about partitions
[04:35] <Mike_lifeguard> I had XP
[04:35] <Mike_lifeguard> I *think* you will have to use Vista's partitioner
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> whatever that is
[04:36] <Kethal_> Hassanakevazir: It looks like grsync is a front end to rsync, which may be helpful.
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> diskpart or something?
[04:36] <DansTheMan> Mike_lifeguard: lol
[04:36] <DansTheMan> I have no idea
[04:36] <krishnan> digitalchemist: wats is microblogging?
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> hold on, looking
[04:36] <krishnan> MyKul: wats is microblogging?
[04:36] <tritium> !offtopic
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> krishnan: this is a support channel for the ubuntu operating system
[04:36] <digitalchemist> @krishnan: it's called microblogging because posts are limited to 140 characters
[04:36] <MyKul> Mike_lifeguard:  You can use the Disk Manager, just like you would in Windows 2003/2008.. It's pretty simple.
[04:36] <jjrev> krishnan: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=twitter&l=1
[04:36] <MrKlown> how would one go about trying to remove flash from your computer?
[04:37] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: ok, so you'll have to boot back into windows to do the partitioning
[04:37] <Doom> What version of OpenGL does Hardy support on 6 series nvidia cards?
[04:37] <ienorand> Venko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[04:37] <zerothis> Anybody know how to get a Lexmark X4530m working with Linux (scan and print, usb or wireless)?
[04:37] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: then afterwards, boot into the install cd and finish everything else
[04:37] <krishnan> Mike_lifeguard: thanks for reminding. i guess you should be having more important work than moral policing.
[04:37] <efrenefren> where do you know how long your computer has been running?
[04:37] <krishnan> Mike_lifeguard: thanks for reminding. i guess you should be having more important work than moral policing.
[04:37] <Venko> ienorand: cheers :)
[04:37] <Mike_lifeguard> umwhat?
[04:37] <DansTheMan> umm, ok
[04:37] <tt5786> hey guys whats the thing starting with n that lets you copy things to root files
[04:37] <DansTheMan> thaanks :p
[04:37] <Kethal_> efrenefren: uptime on command line
[04:37] <digitalchemist> He should be able to ask that here ... it's no more off topic than asking how to use gparted
[04:38] <MyKul> Sheesh, just rotated the compiz cube 6 times before I found songbird to hit next.
[04:38] <DansTheMan> bbl
[04:38] <Mike_lifeguard> k
[04:38] <efrenefren> ok thanks Kethal_ :)
[04:38] <DansTheMan> Thanks a lot Mike_lifeguard and MyKul! You have been a great help with assisting me on this issue. Hopefully it'll become resolved when i use the partitioner :)
[04:38] <MyKul> Good luck DansTheMan.
[04:38] <tt5786> nutrilius
[04:38] <Mike_lifeguard> same here
[04:38] <DansTheMan> Thank you MyKul and Mike_lifeguard :)
[04:39] <Mike_lifeguard> DansTheMan: hold on a sec...
[04:39] <MyKul> Well, that didn't work.
[04:39] <Mike_lifeguard> whatever
[04:39] <Doom> Does Hardy 8.04 support OpenGL 2.0 on 6 series nvidia cards?
[04:39] <MyKul> Hope it wasn't important, like "To disarm the bomb, clip the red wire"
[04:39] <ienorand> Venko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance < That one seems to be a pretty comprehensive rundown of the whole shebang.
[04:39] <Mike_lifeguard> naw, just a link to the thread for when I had the same issue (almost): https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2009-April/180090.html
[04:39] <Hassanakevazir> Kethal_, thanks , i'll try that too
[04:40] <somedud3> how big should i make my swap with 2gb ram ?
[04:40] <FloridaGuy> i noticed all apt-get update does is updates the repo....is sudo apt-get upgrade what updates the system
[04:40] <Mike_lifeguard> err, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2009-April/180136.html
[04:41] <Kethal_> Hassanakevazir: Conduit for Gnome also looks promising
[04:41] <ienorand> MyKul: I've found that I never actually use the cube... I just clog windows and use compiz scale, works brilliantly.
[04:42] <Doom> Because I still like using KDE 3 on 8.04 ,but I want to use OpenGL 2.0 for programming. I have 6 series card did the driver on Hardy support OpenGL 2.0
[04:42] <MyKul> ienorand:  I like the cube because (very shallow here), it's flashy... I've made 7 Ubuntu cds just because friends/coworkers are like flies to a flame with that cube..
[04:43] <Hassanakevazir> Kethal_, nah, thats for gnome, I'm looking for moving 1TB files, Grsync seems solid, also has a option for FAT32 which I was going to miss if I used CLI
[04:43] <Mike_lifeguard> gnome-volume-manager is supposed to automagically detect & mount removable devices like USB drives, yes?
[04:43] <kev_> hey guys, i got a question...
[04:43] <kev_> i am using kubuntu and i just downloaded the latest virtualbox-ose .deb file. when i tried to install it, i got an error message telling me: "dependency not satisfiable: libqt4-network" well the problem is that i cannot find that package in apt-get or adept manager... even after updating packages. anyone know where i can get it?
[04:43] <jjrev> kev_: just ask it
[04:44] <kev_> i did ;)
[04:44] <ienorand> MyKul: True, cube is still one of the main ubuntu-missionaries, and I guess some people to find it very useful... I don't though...
[04:44] <Mike_lifeguard> If it is running, I should find it with something like 'ps x|grep volume' right?
[04:44] <Mike_lifeguard> If it's not found, then it's not running - how would I start it?
[04:45] <digitalchemist> @kev_ ... maybe here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/libqt4-network
[04:45] <Kethal_> Are there programs like conduit for KDE?  Can I sync Google Calendar with KOrganizer?
[04:45] <jtaji> Mike_lifeguard: try ps ax, it might not be running as your user
[04:45] <MyKul> Mike_lifeguard:  Try "ps aux|grep -i volume"
[04:45] <Mike_lifeguard> k, thx
[04:46] <Mike_lifeguard> I see /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor and  /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor, neither of which look right
[04:46] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[04:46] <Venko> ienorand: That's working a lot better now. Thanks so much :)
[04:46] <kev_> digitalchemist: so it's not a particular package, just a combination of certain packages?
[04:47] <jtaji> Mike_lifeguard: actually gvfs-hal-volume-monitor is it
[04:47] <MyKul> ienorand:  I don't mind it.. I just full screen pretty much everything and never alt-tab.. just skip through desktops with my mouse scrolll wheel.
[04:47] <digitalchemist> @kev_ appears to be. That was the first page Google returned ... and it's referenced again @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=978572
[04:47] <Mike_lifeguard> hm
[04:47] <Mike_lifeguard> so why isn't it monitoring the volumes? XD
[04:48] <MyKul> Mike_lifeguard: Did you try killing the process and restarting it?
[04:48] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm about to :)
[04:48] <ienorand> Venko: Did you go through with downgrade?
[04:48] <digitalchemist> @kev_: later in the post someone mentions that they had to enable "Unsupported updates" in Software Sources to get it to show up in apt
[04:48] <mvip> I'm having difficulties with NFSv4 and permissions. All files on the clients are listed as UID/GID<PHONE_NUMBER>.
[04:48] <Venko> ienorand: Yeah, just added the repository and installed the package and everything is fluid again like with Intrepid
[04:48] <kev_> digitalchemist: ok, give me a few seconds to try that. i'll brb to let you know how i make out
[04:49] <Burntresistor> i have a python question how do i load math library into idle
[04:49] <agoy> I is there any mp3 player which is command line interface base?
[04:49] <lstarnes> Burntresistor: import matg
[04:49] <Mike_lifeguard> MyKul: er, how would I restart it? just do /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor at the prompt?
[04:49] <mvip> agoy: mpg123
[04:49] <lstarnes> Burntresistor: I mean import math
[04:49] <ienorand> Venko: Seems like there is going to be a lot of people needing to go though that process then...
[04:50] <lexvegas> agoy:  VLC can be run on the command line
[04:50] <Burntresistor> i tired import math nothing happens  it doesnt recognize the pi command '
[04:50] <usser> agoy, mplayer
[04:50] <lstarnes> Burntresistor: try math.pi
[04:50] <Venko> ienorand: Worth scripting a command to give people the answer, I think
[04:50] <Venko> /intel [name]
[04:50] <digitalchemist> @Burntresistor: math.pi, otherwise 'from math import pi'
[04:50] <MyKul> mike_lifeguard:  Might be a service... I've never toyed with it, but doing "nohup  /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor & should work.
[04:51] <MyKul> Mike_Lifeguard:  Oops... wife is here... fun's over.. :)  Good luck..
[04:51] <Mike_lifeguard> thx :)
[04:52] <Burntresistor> thanks
[04:52] <wexell32> coffe vs tea?! :-?
[04:52] <agoy> How about mp3 or audio player which is Ncurse base?
[04:52] <pronto> use mpd + ncmpc
[04:53] <pronto> http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Wiki
[04:53] <jtaji> agoy: moc
[04:53] <jtaji> !info moc
[04:53] <mvip> so nobody got NFSv4 up and running?
[04:53] <pronto> music player deamon is better
[04:54] <DragonRift> hey
[04:54] <Davide-buntu> !fstab
[04:54] <lstarnes> pronto: I personally find mpd to be confusing
[04:54] <DragonRift> I was running windows and was getting a random crash
[04:54] <DragonRift> now I am gonna install ubuntu
[04:54] <glisignoli> how would I get a total size of all the files in a dir that were created after a date?
[04:54] <DragonRift> whats a good way to strain the pc
[04:54] <valroadie> strain it?
[04:54] <DragonRift> yes
[04:54] <valroadie> like make it work hard?
[04:55] <DragonRift> as in, make it work its nuts off
[04:55] <valroadie> hm
[04:55] <DragonRift> cpu and gpu
[04:55] <glisignoli> DragonRift: superpi
[04:55] <usser> DragonRift, compile the kernel
[04:55] <valroadie> yeah superpi wors well for CPU
[04:55] <DragonRift> cpu AND GPU
[04:55] <usser> DragonRift, compile anything big really
[04:55] <glisignoli> gl_gearx XD
[04:55] <valroadie> for graphics
[04:55] <DragonRift> glgears?
[04:55] <rm```> crysis!
[04:55] <valroadie> lol
[04:55] <usser> DragonRift, play nexuiz on high settings for an hour for gpu
[04:55] <lexvegas> DragonRift: write a python program to calculate the Fibonacci sequence out to  10 ^ 1000000
[04:55] <DragonRift> I don't have crysis
[04:56] <DragonRift> how stable are nvidia gfx drivers on ubuntu?
[04:57] <usser> DragonRift, nvidia drivers are solid
[04:58] <usser> DragonRift, best perfomance on linux graphics-wise
[04:58] <DragonRift> does SLI work on linux?
[04:58] <justin__> hello
[04:58] <DragonRift> because I have 2 gpus
[04:58] <Davide-buntu> Hi, I'm trying to mount a network location from a windows partition, I want it done automatically at startup so I placed the following in fstab.  mount -t cifs //none-xvlc1hi3pv/d/ /media/none/d/  Any Idea why it doesn't work at startup, but it works when I type it in the terminal
[04:58] <kebomix> hello , i have strange problem , there is server on my network , and every body have user name and password and all automatic ip's ,  the user name and password web page appear on windows and dont  appear on ubuntu as it get's automatic ip's on ubuntu ? !
[04:59] <usser> DragonRift, it should, i've never used it though
[04:59] <justin__> how do i download john the ripper
[04:59] <usser> DragonRift, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=860&num=1
[05:00] <Cmclean> What is the difference between Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu Desktop?
[05:00] <Davide-buntu> !fstab
[05:00] <poseidon> do you have to install a separate package from sun-java6-jre to get the javaEE sdk?
[05:02] <aliksy> I have a question about brasero.  If I burn an audio cd with it, by default, is there going to be that annoying 2 second pause between tracks?
[05:02] <dj_ryan> hey whats a good disk/dir encrypt pkg on ubuntu (jjaunty)
[05:03] <agoy> usser: How about a audio player on console like moc and also can be able to subscribe RSS, aka podcast?
[05:03] <Kr0ntab> dj_ryan: check out truecrypt...
[05:03] <Kr0ntab> theirs a package on their site... no repo... but a good piece of software
[05:03] <dj_ryan> Kr0ntab: whats the lic senario with that... oss or what?
[05:03] <Acedip> i dont have IE installed in xp, so where do i save the .exe file of IE from ubuntu ?
[05:03] <Acedip> i'm running xp in vbox
[05:03] <Kr0ntab> yes... oss
[05:04] <Kr0ntab> http://www.truecrypt.org/
[05:05] <dj_ryan> does it do stenographic flash parts?
[05:06] <Kr0ntab> yes...
[05:06] <Kr0ntab> read their site...
[05:06] <dj_ryan> ah cool
[05:06] <dj_ryan> i thought it was commercial
[05:06] <Kr0ntab> it's free...
[05:06] <Kr0ntab> and oss
[05:07] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, so I'm told to add "none                    /proc/bus/usb           usbfs noauto         0 0" to /etc/fstab and then "mount this"
[05:07] <River_Tam> Anyone need web or vps hosting?
[05:07] <Mike_lifeguard> how do I mount that when there's no identifier like /dev/sda6?
[05:07] <somedud3> how come when i write some files from linux onto my windows data partition, the files do not show up in windows ?
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[05:08] <troopperi> Acedip, http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/video?name=3650000&fromSeriesID=365#TB_inline?&width=776&height=618&inlineId=videoPlayer929
[05:10]  * scunizi thinks this is the lull before the storm.. Is nobody talking tonight?
[05:10]  * aliksy had a question!
[05:10] <quetzalcoatlus> Hi, I've been trying to install Java on my ubuntu server, but I keep getting an odd error related to not having an installation candidate
[05:10] <quetzalcoatlus> http://pastebin.com/m6338fd71
[05:10] <FloridaGuy> what is it with ubuntu takes about 14 min to download 255 mb of updates and about 40 min to install them ?
[05:10] <ienorand> If I have a fullscreen app (eaxample openarena) how do I exit it whilst keeping it running ("alt-tab" out of it)
[05:11] <rww> quetzalcoatlus: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file, please?
[05:11] <scunizi> ienorand: you have to run it in windowed mode
[05:11] <Davide-buntu> !mtab
[05:11] <SandGorgon> before I do rsync on an ISO - should I mount it. i'm unable to figure out the method to rsync an iso with latest
[05:11] <ienorand> scunizi: So there is no way to get out once it is fullscreen?
[05:12] <scunizi> ienorand: not that I'm aware of
[05:12] <kev_> digitalchemist: i downloaded the packages, did all the updates, and debian installer is still saying the dependency is unsatisfiable
[05:12] <glisignoli> Anyone know how I would get the total size of files created on a certian date?
[05:12] <quetzalcoatlus> rww: http://pastebin.ca/1394619
[05:12] <Davide-buntu> What's mtab?
[05:12] <somedud3> how come when i write some files from linux onto my windows data partition, the files do not show up in windows ?
[05:13] <ienorand> scunizi: That's kind of crappy really... having to reset x just because a fullscreen app freezes
[05:13] <ienorand> Davide-buntu: Where the entries for all currently mounted filesystems are stored.
[05:13] <scunizi> ienorand: you don't have to reset x.. just ctrl+alt+f2 and login.. then use top or htop to figure out what the pid of the app is and kill it.. ctrl+alt+F7 takes you back to the gui
[05:14] <rww> quetzalcoatlus: sun-java6-jre is in the multiverse repository, which you don't have enabled. You can enable it with System > Administration > Software Sources > check "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues", or by adding "multiverse" to the end of each line in your sources.list, saving, and doing "sudo apt-get update"
[05:14] <Davide-buntu> ienorand, if I wanted to add a network location to be mounted at startup would I add it to mtab or fstab?
[05:14] <somedud3> how come when i write some files from linux onto my windows data partition, the files do not show up in windows ?
[05:14] <scunizi> Davide-buntu: fstab
[05:14] <ienorand> Davide-buntu: fstab.  mtab is temporary
[05:15] <quetzalcoatlus> ok rww
[05:15] <quetzalcoatlus> thanks
[05:15] <quetzalcoatlus> installing now
[05:15] <rww> quetzalcoatlus: you're welcome
[05:15] <isiah> somedud3: are you sure that they are being written to the write place? Did you try placing them on your desktop? I am assuming you dual-boot
[05:15] <scunizi> ienorand: there may be a key combo that will switch between full and windowed screen.. you might check with openarena's site or channel
[05:16] <Davide-buntu> scunizi, ienorand I'm trying to mount a network location folder on a windows hard drive on my other computer.. I'm using this in fstab but it won't work mount -t cifs //none-xvlc1hi3pv/d/ /media/none/d/
[05:16] <Davide-buntu> scunizi, ienorand  I want it to load on startup
[05:16] <kev_> digitalchemist: i got it working. i downloaded the virtualbox-ose.deb file for debian 4.0 (previously i was trying it with 5.0), and not it's installing just fine
[05:16] <BlackCoffee> howdy
[05:17] <ienorand> scunizi: Yes, true. From a user-friendliness perspective it's still a pretty remarkable flaw, alt-tab seem kind of a basic feature...
[05:17] <BlackCoffee> anyone knows how to display song info of audacious on xchat?
[05:17] <scunizi> ienorand: yes.. but keep in mind the application might be preventing that key combo from working.. not linux or ubuntu itself..
[05:18] <somedud3> isiah: yeah this keeps happening, i write a file to my ntfs partition and when i go to windows the files are no there
[05:18] <somedud3> no errors in ubuntu
[05:18] <tyoc> I have installed in a VM virtualbox ubuntu (inside my ubuntu :P) but there it only show resolutions of 640x480 and 800x600... and I want at less 1024x768... my monitor support up to 1280x1024
[05:18] <scunizi> tyoc: you need to install the guest additions for virtual box
[05:18] <scunizi> tyoc: then restart the vm
[05:18] <yoshimit> Hello there! Someone knows how to use a ISO image as mirror ?
[05:18] <valroadie> is there any way to male the desktop cube smaller?
[05:18] <valroadie> *make
[05:19] <Davide-buntu> scunizi, ienorand I'm trying to mount a network location folder on a windows hard drive on my other computer.. I'm using this in fstab but it won't work mount -t cifs //none-xvlc1hi3pv/d/ /media/none/d/
[05:19] <tyoc> it is the virtualbox not "opensoruce" so I guess they are already isntalled???
[05:19] <tyoc> scunizi: how I can know if i already have them or not?
[05:19] <scunizi> !mount | Davide-buntu
[05:19] <isiah> somedud3: ok can you see your window files when your in ubuntu?
[05:19] <Davide-buntu> :(
[05:19] <Droopsta915> Whats the command to show my hidden files on the dektop?
[05:19] <Droopsta915> desktop, sorry
[05:19] <somedud3> isiah: yeah i can mount both my system and data ntfs partition , see all the files
[05:20] <landon_> how do i enable 3d?
[05:20] <scunizi> tyoc: open the vm that you want to add the resoltion to then in the menu at the top left, one of the dropdown choices you'll see "Install guest Additions" .. It's part of Vbox
[05:20] <kris_> At one time I did
[05:21] <tyoc> scunizi: OK, I will do that, let me check
[05:21] <Davide-buntu> scunizi, I didnt find any help there but thanks
[05:21] <FuzzX> anybody running FF 3 ?
[05:21] <isiah> somedud3: I think it could possible be a permission problem, have you tried using the chmod command?
[05:21] <somedud3> isiah: if its a permission problem i should be given an error shouldnt  ?
[05:21] <Mike_lifeguard> FuzzX: yes (but perhaps you're looking for #firefox ?)
[05:22] <FuzzX> no its godda be on ubuntu
[05:22] <somedud3> isiah: i get a copy bar and everything, no errors, but no files when i go to windows
[05:22] <scunizi> FuzzX: anyone on 8.10 is running FF3
[05:22] <FuzzX> yeah
[05:23] <celthunder> scunizi how can you assume that?
[05:23] <Mike_lifeguard> If I have a line in /etc/fstab that's "none		/proc/bus/usb	usbdevfs	noauto,devmode=0666	0	0" how would I mount that?
[05:23] <celthunder> scunizi i have 8.10 i dont use firefox
[05:23] <scunizi> celthunder: unless you manually install something different FF3 is preinstalled..
[05:23] <nadan> trying to build something... apparently by googling i found i'm missing gtk-devel ....  don't see it however in the repositories any idea?
[05:23] <FuzzX> just wanna quickly test a javascript feature.. would ned some confirmation from another ubuntu FF 3 user
[05:23] <lstarnes> nadan: look for libgtk2.0-dev
[05:23] <scunizi> celthunder: I should probably say FF3 comes standard on 8.10.. not that everyone is using it
[05:23] <isiah> somedud3: It couldnt be a windows hidden file thing right?
[05:24] <somedud3> no
[05:24] <tyoc> scunizi: I dont see a popup or something :S.... after I clicked "Install 'guest additions'"
[05:24] <somedud3> hmm maybe its hiding them as 'system files'
[05:24] <somedud3> i could check that out
[05:24] <scunizi> tyoc: what guest are you running?
[05:24] <somedud3> gotta go tho, thanks for trying
[05:24] <antikoa> sup
[05:24] <nadan> hmmm i have that...  maybe its made for gtk1.2?  checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.1... no
[05:25] <lstarnes> nadan: try libgtk1.2-dev.  What are you compiling?
[05:25] <tyoc> scunizi: Ubuntu 8.10
[05:25] <oospunkey> if "sudo fdisk -l" does not see my HDD does that mean its dead?
[05:25] <scunizi> tyoc: that's what you're running in the vm? on a windows host?
[05:25] <celthunder> oospunkey, no
[05:25] <tyoc> scunizi: is because Im doing some apps that sometimes testing them freeze my Ubuntu host
[05:25] <somedud3> is there any disadvantage to install ubuntu on a logical partition ?
[05:25] <nadan> prb not what i want... but an old "disk space visualizer"  called fsv  http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
[05:25] <tyoc> scunizi: Ubuntu 8.10 host and ubuntu 8.10 client
[05:26] <scunizi> tyoc: ah. k.. you need to open terminal in the guest and "cd /media/cdrom0"
[05:26] <felixsulla> If you have a box that has Vista, and you put Ubuntu on a new partition, will it be able to see your Win files?
[05:26] <usser> somedud3, not really, ubuntu or any other os except windows can live on extended partitions just fine
[05:26] <tyoc> scunizi: because like I said I sometimes freeze my ubuntu and that or restart isnt fun, more if Im talking with people... so I decided to install it in a VM and work inside that environment
[05:26] <Mike_lifeguard> OK, in syslog, there is Apr 17 01:26:24 mikelifeguard-laptop kernel: [  509.478184] usb 5-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[05:26] <tyoc> scunizi: O I see, like if a CD... nice...
[05:26] <tyoc> :D
[05:26] <scunizi> tyoc: then in that directory "ls" to list the files..
[05:27] <tyoc> scunizi: checking out
[05:27] <troopperi> !ntfs
[05:27] <Mike_lifeguard> So clearly the kernel knows the device is there, but I cannot mount it, and it does not automount :'(
[05:27] <scunizi> tyoc: then pic the file that you need to install.. if it's for x86 then "sudo ./<name of file>
[05:28] <tyoc> scunizi: I think something is wrong.... I only see exes inside :S
[05:28] <oospunkey> if fdisk can't find my hdd then how do i mount it?
[05:29] <scunizi> tyoc: try ls -la
[05:29] <scunizi> tyoc: there should be some .run files there.
[05:29] <tyoc> let me see
[05:30] <srimal> Hi all
[05:30] <tyoc> o yea I see the run :)
[05:30] <srimal> anyone tested 9.04 on ATI Radeon Mobility 1600
[05:30] <iox> Hey everyone!
[05:30] <srimal> Radeon Mobility X1600
[05:30] <KnomeDE> iox: hello
[05:31] <srimal> I get flickering on movie play back in 9.04 and 8.10 but 8.04 works fine
[05:31] <iox> Anyone mind if I ask a couple of quick questions about partitions? I've looked in forums and I can't seem to get my answers.
[05:31] <srimal> Video card is Radeon Mobility X1600 Compa
[05:31] <srimal> Compaq nx9420 laptop
[05:31] <oospunkey> i'm wondering about partitions as well
[05:31] <tyoc> scunizi: an extra question now that I have your attention :), is possible to install to a windows guest the nvidia drivers??? or Im wrong about this?
[05:32] <tyoc> scunizi: VBox additions installed, restarting the VBox
[05:32] <nadan> grrr it says "you need gl or mesagl libraries" but i have mesa-common-dev
[05:32] <glisignoli> iox: go for broke
[05:32] <iox> My main questions about partitions are:  does putting /tmp on a seperate partition improve performance, and if so what size should I make it?
[05:33] <glisignoli> iox: not unless its a seperate drive
[05:33] <seven41> I tried to use ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS to set up a system with encrypted root volume on top of soft raid 1. I ran into multiple failures. Filed bugs 362696, 362705, 362714. Do you know if this setup works better in the newer ubuntu versions? (fyi this setup has worked ok for me with another distribution)
[05:33] <glisignoli> (physical) drive
[05:33] <KnomeDE> iox: if the partition is on a separate HDD, then yes, otherwise, not really
[05:34] <iox> is the main point to reduce fragmentation? Or does the /tmp folder on a seperate drive increase bandwidth?
[05:34] <glisignoli> reminds me of what my boss wanted me to do
[05:34] <scunizi> tyoc: nope.. you have to use the generic drivers provided by vbox for all guest install's at this point
[05:34] <glisignoli> demanded I make a seperate "swap" partition on his windows pc
[05:34] <glisignoli> of 20gb
[05:35] <glisignoli> when the drive where raid 1
[05:35] <glisignoli> or raid 0
[05:35] <glisignoli> I forget
[05:35] <FloodBot3> glisignoli: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <KnomeDE> iox: if its on a separate drive, that drive will be handling requests solely fo files in the /tmp directory
[05:35] <iox> Amazing information KnomeDE/glisingnoli, thanks for your help!
[05:35] <KnomeDE> iox: if its on the same drive, the drive is handling requests for everything at once, and has to move back and forth between sectors
[05:36] <KnomeDE> cylinders i mean
[05:36] <tyoc> scunizi: thx, I still have the 2 low resolutions.... but I can now work more "easy" with the mouse :)
[05:36] <scunizi> tyoc: you might be able to drag the corners of the box and make it bigger though..
[05:37] <tyoc> scunizi: Oh, I see
[05:37] <scunizi> tyoc: did you install the version from the repo's?
[05:37] <tyoc> now scunizi I have already the last version of VB
[05:37] <tyoc> from his main site
[05:37] <scunizi> tyoc: direct from their site?
[05:37] <tyoc> yep
[05:38] <scunizi> good
[05:38] <tyoc> :)
[05:38] <tyoc> before didnt know how to install this "guest additions" hehehe
[05:38] <tyoc> thx for the tip
[05:38] <nadan> whats the channel for general chat?
[05:38] <somedud3> how do i scan a disk to find / try to repair bad sectors ?
[05:38] <scunizi> tyoc: np.. the #vbox channel is good if you catch them before bed..
[05:39] <tyoc> oki doki
[05:39] <scunizi> somedud3: boot into the recover kernel and there will be an option listed
[05:39] <somedud3> scunizi: i am on a live USB right now
[05:40] <scunizi> !fsck | somedud3
[05:40] <somedud3> scunizi: can i use that on an empty FS ?
[05:40] <somedud3> * empty partition table
[05:41] <koolkartik> "The following packages have been kept back:
[05:41] <koolkartik>   linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic
[05:41] <koolkartik> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded." can anyone help with this
[05:41] <scunizi> somedud3: if it hasn't been partitioned and formatted probably not
[05:41] <somedud3> scunizi: im having trouble parititoning, thats why i want to run a disk check
[05:41] <rww> koolkartik: I assume that's output from "apt-get upgrade"? try "apt-get dist-upgrade" instead.
[05:41] <scunizi> somedud3: are you attempting a dual boot?
[05:42] <somedud3> scunizi: yeah, i have done it on this drive before, but for some reason i cant create more than 2 partitions
[05:43] <vegombrei> i cant mount one of my internal hdds .. can someone please take a look at my fstab and mtab and help me fix it
[05:43] <scunizi> somedud3: ah.. you can only have 4 primary partitions on a drive.. if you're currently at 2 or 3 then the next needs to be an extended partition of the entire remaining amount.. then that space can be partitioned several times.
[05:44] <koolkartik> rww: yeah thats output from apt-get upgrade and m not able 2 install nethng it always displays this msg and these 2 upates never get installes
[05:44] <rww> koolkartik: did you try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[05:44] <somedud3> scunizi: yeah i know, i made my xp part, 1 for linux swap, trying to add the ext3 partition but it wont let me
[05:45] <koolkartik> rww: ok i m trying that
[05:45] <scunizi> somedud3: are you using the partition manager built into the live cd?
[05:45] <somedud3> scunizi: gparted , yeah
[05:45] <vegombrei> i cant mount one of my internal hdds .. can someone please take a look at my fstab and mtab and help me fix it ....http://pastebin.com/m426cd011
[05:46] <scunizi> somedud3: what's it say?
[05:46] <vegombrei> celthunder: you there ?
[05:47] <Booh> Hi, I want to put ogg file on my facebook but I think I can only put videos... so, how to convert my ogg file to some video format?  (Sorry I don't know a lot about multimedias)
[05:47] <emergion> Hello all. My laptop recently had some issues (would not boot) some how it boots fine now but my Ubuntu constantly says "Wireless is Disable" though everything else seems to be working fine? I booted off the live cd into the trial environment and it still says "Wireless is disabled" I even tried a USB wireless card with the same result. Any ideas?
[05:48] <celthunder> vegombrei, yes
[05:48] <admin_masu3701> can i install dreamweaver in ubuntu 8.10
[05:48] <wahnfrieden> HI YALL
[05:48] <wahnfrieden> how long does ubuntu install take
[05:48] <celthunder> vegombrei, how can i help you?
[05:48] <admin_masu3701> not long at all
[05:48] <scunizi> wahnfrieden: about 30-40 minutes typically
[05:48] <celthunder> wahnfrieden, about 6 minutes?
[05:48] <gueux> hi
[05:48] <wahnfrieden> NICE.
[05:48] <celthunder> scunizi, it took you 40 minutes?
[05:49] <admin_masu3701> it took me 20 minutes
[05:49] <scunizi> celthunder: full desktop..with updates
[05:49] <wahnfrieden> is there any decent music production software for Linux, for something similar to Ableton Live?
[05:49] <andruk> admin_masu3701: you'll need to use wine, check appdb.org for more information on specific capabilities of dreamweaver on wine.
[05:49] <scunizi> better than 3+hrs on winXX
[05:50] <admin_masu3701> andruk: thats a cool site
[05:50] <tyoc> ey scunizi thanks for the help :), cya (y)
[05:50] <admin_masu3701> are those games
[05:50] <nadan> wahnfrieden, takes about 801 seconds to install 8.10 then updates are dependent on download speed
[05:50] <scunizi> tyoc: np :)
[05:50] <tyoc>  good night all :)
[05:51] <somedud3> scunizi: it says /dev/sda5: No such file or directory
[05:51] <glisignoli> will ubuntu 9.04 be a LTS release?
[05:51] <lstarnes> glisignoli: no
[05:51] <andruk> admin_masu3701: the wine project includes appdb, which makes the wine project a lot larger than just the win32 api.
[05:51] <wahnfrieden> SO SHOULD I INSTALL Jaunty With Ext4 since ext4 is already stable OR what
[05:51] <scunizi> somedud3: that would be the reference for the 5th partition..
[05:51] <troopperi> !wine
[05:51] <scunizi> glisignoli: no
[05:51] <killedkillerb> is there a command similar to windows's ipconfig /all
[05:51] <wahnfrieden> will it be easy to update my os to the stable release
[05:51] <somedud3> scunizi: right the 3rd partition i added is an extended
[05:51] <lstarnes> killedkillerb: try ifconfig
[05:51] <wahnfrieden> killedkillerb IFCONFIG
[05:51] <bc01> k
[05:51] <killedkillerb> i know ifconfig but i need more info
[05:52] <killedkillerb> default gateway and whatnot
[05:52] <lstarnes> wahnfrieden: yes
[05:52] <bc01> ima
[05:52] <wahnfrieden> ifconfig --help
[05:52] <lstarnes> wahnfrieden: wait, I'm not sure
[05:52] <admin_masu3701> andruk: i see...but the dreamweaver application free?
[05:52] <eugen> hey,..how can I synchronize the kde multi desktop feature with the compiz one?
[05:52] <wahnfrieden> lstarnes ABOUT WHAT
[05:52] <somedud3> scunizi: i have 2 ntfs primaries, then third is extended, then adding a linux swap and error occurs
[05:52] <lstarnes> wahnfrieden: capsd
[05:52] <lstarnes> *caps
[05:52] <koolkartik> admin_masu3701: wine will create a bit problem with dreamweaver try similar projects : kompozer (widely used ) or u may also go for bluefish
[05:52] <lstarnes> wahnfrieden: from 8.10 or from an earlier version of 9.04?
[05:53] <admin_masu3701> koolkartik: i have kompozer
[05:53] <wahnfrieden> can I have a recycle bin in linux?
[05:53] <wahnfrieden> lstarnes im installing a new copy
[05:53] <wahnfrieden> lstarnes im moving from windows 7
[05:53] <nadan> wahnfrieden, you do have a recycle bin called trash
[05:54] <vegombrei> celthunder: dude all those issues are back.. now i cant mount that drive .. could you take a look at my fstab?
[05:54] <scunizi> somedud3: you've added the extended but have you hit "apply" in gparted after creating it? it might not allow creation of any partitions in the extended portion until that partition is written correctly.
[05:54] <wahnfrieden> oh so anything i rm is undo-able?
[05:54] <nadan> wahnfrieden, just don't remove from command line -- rm or it won't go to trash
[05:54] <vegombrei> celthunder: http://pastebin.com/m426cd011
[05:54] <somedud3> scunizi: yeah it applied fine, but after that i cant add anything in the unallocated space under the extended part
[05:54] <wahnfrieden> is there a shortcut to move to trash from command line
[05:54] <killedkillerb> i've used ifconfig --help and read the manpage
[05:55] <admin_masu3701> i have a dreamweaver.exe ...would it work in linux?
[05:55] <zenergi> What does it mean when there is a * instead of a "x" in the second field of a /etc/passwd entry? I know the "x" means it has a shadow pw, but what is the *?
[05:55] <celthunder> vegombrei, ok one sec looking
[05:55] <scunizi> somedud3: have you tried restarting the live cd and system to see if that makes a difference?
[05:55] <somedud3> scunizi: no guess i should try that
[05:55] <celthunder> vegombrei, k which drive wont mount?
[05:55] <scunizi> somedud3: worth a shot
[05:56] <koolkartik> Booh: u can use vlc and with that u can convert ur files
[05:57] <zenergi> Also, what does the "+" mean in the file permissions "drwx------+" ?
[05:57] <somedud3> scunizi: but basically after i try to apply it gives that error ( no such directory),  and shows there is an 'unknown partition' there, and if i try to format that partition i get the same error
[05:57] <Booh> ok thanks koolkartik
[05:57] <scunizi> somedud3: that after hitting "new" to create a new partition?
[05:58] <wahnfrieden> killedkillerb read *this* man page
[05:59] <Booh> Wow!  and the sound is better... !!!  a lot better!
[06:00] <killedkillerb> wahnfrieden, what manpage?
[06:00] <Doom> Hey, all. I'm looking for a good C++ compiler. Any recommendations?
[06:01] <mib_bnqm76> question, how can I configure my wireless connection from terminnal?
[06:01] <altusanew_> Other than g++ ?
[06:01] <Doom> Just looking for multiple opinions. Humor me.
[06:02] <newchaos> icc
[06:02] <scunizi> !best | Doom
[06:02] <wahnfrieden> this man page
[06:02] <eqisow1> I have a motherboard with the AMD SB750 southbridge. The installer sees my configured raid0, but after install I get a "no OS installed" error. I can't use linux softraid because the array has a dedicated windows 7 partition and the installer only lets me configure the separate disks if the raid is turned off in the bios
[06:03] <osubuck_> if i install the 9.04 RC will i be able to upgrade it to the final when its out?
[06:03] <eqisow1> osubuck_: yes
[06:03] <xangua> osubuck_: yes
[06:03] <osubuck_> sweet :D
[06:03] <killedkillerb> osubuck_, #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <osubuck_> might as well get it then considering its not far away
[06:05] <koolkartik> rww:Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:05] <koolkartik>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic_2.6.24-19.41_i386.deb
[06:05] <koolkartik>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic_2.6.24-23.52_i386.deb
[06:05] <koolkartik> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:05] <FloodBot3> koolkartik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:05] <killedkillerb> so nobody knows a simple way to get the same output from ubuntu terminal that windows command prompt gives me with ipconfig /all?
[06:05] <koolkartik> rww: this is the error
[06:06] <killedkillerb> i managed to get the default gateway with route -n
[06:06] <killedkillerb> but that still leaves me looking for the default dns and dhcp servers
[06:06] <scunizi> killedkillerb: try iwconfig
[06:06] <killedkillerb> i
[06:06] <sammy> where is the best place to set the TZ environment variable so that I can have a different time zone than the system time zone?
[06:06] <killedkillerb> ill check that out thx
[06:07] <g4lt-lappy> killedkillerb, taht information isn't presented in tablature forme in linux.  you can get the dns by cat /etc/resolv.conf
[06:07] <scunizi> killedkillerb: also ifconfig
[06:07] <sammy> .bashrc mentions it is for non-login shells. I want to make sure my timezone is set properly for X and gnome applications
[06:08] <scunizi> killedkillerb: ifconfig should give you more info
[06:08] <killedkillerb> iwconfig  seems to be for wireless
[06:08] <killedkillerb> ifconfig isnt giving me default gateway, dns server, or dhcp server
[06:08] <sammy> oh look. the ubuntu community doc page for environment variables says .profile should work for displaymanager. :)
[06:08] <killedkillerb> ive read man and --help
[06:09] <koolkartik> rww: is there any other way to fix this problem?
[06:09] <scunizi> killedkillerb: check out man ifconfig
[06:10] <vegombrei> celthunder: dude you mind if i pvt msg ya?
[06:10] <C-S-B> I've compiled <IP_ADDRESS> for ubuntu 8.10 but its not booting-I get a weird graphical glitch...
[06:10] <l1sp-> http://migre.me/wl8
[06:10] <C-S-B> I know my xorg.conf is right
[06:11] <koolkartik> rww: u there
[06:11] <lamalex> Hi, i have a really simple request. Is anyone here on 8.04 (hardy) desktop? Does seahorse have an option to backup keyring in it's 'file' menu?
[06:11] <killedkillerb> g4lt-lappy, that was the missing link
[06:11] <killedkillerb> thx
[06:11] <C-S-B> It doesnt show the animated splah either
[06:11] <DragonRift> I am gwtting video mode not supported
[06:11] <DragonRift> when trying to install ubuntu
[06:12] <C-S-B> try vesa
[06:12] <lamalex> can someone on 8.04 just open seahorse and tell me if that option is there?
[06:12] <xangua> DragonRift: what Ubuntu are you trying to install ¿
[06:12] <DragonRift> the latest
[06:13] <DragonRift> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:13] <scunizi> lamalex: going to Applications/Accessories Passwords & Encry there is a backup option
[06:13] <lamalex> scunizi: thank you :)
[06:13] <lamalex> it seems to have been removed but i cant figure out why
[06:13] <scunizi> lamalex: np :)
[06:14] <lamalex> no upstream or downstream changelog obviously says why it was removed
[06:14] <DansTheMan> Guys i need some help installing Ubuntu.
[06:15] <C-S-B> Whats the prob Dan?
[06:15] <DragonRift> I am using geforce 8800
[06:16] <DragonRift> it works fine till I click install
[06:16] <DragonRift> then says video mode not supported
[06:16] <DansTheMan> C-S-B: I cannot get past step 4 of the installation process of Ubuntu 8.10 desktop edition :(
[06:16] <koolkartik>   linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic  can ne 1 help me
[06:16] <koolkartik> :(
[06:17] <DansTheMan> I'm currently using the "Try Ubuntu without making any changes" from the CD boot menu.
[06:17] <scunizi> DansTheMan: what's step 4?
[06:17] <DragonRift> even when I use the try ubuntu without any changes
[06:17] <DragonRift> I get the same error
[06:17] <DragonRift> if nvidia not supported by ubuntu?
[06:17] <DragonRift> is
[06:17] <g4lt-lappy> hmm, since the last upgrade i've completely lost the shitf key.  anyone know where  can find it
[06:17] <DansTheMan> scunizi: The one about partitioning
[06:18] <g4lt-lappy> i've tried system-keyboard with no effect
[06:18] <DragonRift> do I need to change to fedora?
[06:18] <C-S-B> we need an error msg
[06:18] <DragonRift> :p
[06:18] <scunizi> DansTheMan: you might be one of the few that has the mysterious "can't read the HD" bug..
[06:18] <DansTheMan> I'll show you a screen shot?
[06:19] <scunizi> DansTheMan: then again.. do you have a gforce motherboard?
[06:19] <killedkillerb> DragonRift i know for a fact 8.10 supports 8800
[06:19] <koolkartik>   linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic not able to install these updates    need help
[06:19] <scunizi> DansTheMan: that is.. an nvidia gforce motherboard?
[06:19] <DansTheMan> scunizi: No.
[06:19] <DansTheMan> It's an Acer Aspire 5720Z 1a****
[06:20] <DansTheMan> the stars are a wildcard :p
[06:20] <C-S-B> DansTheMan,  I'm in koh samui, thailand and the gf want to sun tan/burn -need to sorry!
[06:20] <C-S-B> *to go
[06:20] <kebomix> hello , i can't log in hotspot using ubuntu , as it works under windows ? as it takes ip's on ubuntu also like windows !
[06:21] <killedkillerb> kebomix what is your native language?
[06:21] <altusanew_> Dragon did you install the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[06:21] <DansTheMan> Guys: http://i40.tinypic.com/2h80r2s.png
[06:21] <killedkillerb> is there an arabic ubuntu chan?
[06:22] <kebomix> yeah , but it is dead
[06:22] <mib_bnqm76> Can someone help me?
[06:22] <DansTheMan> scunizi: Is it possible to fix that?
[06:22] <killedkillerb> bah
[06:22] <scunizi> DansTheMan: I'd suggest googling "5720z ubuntu" and see if you come up with any references for a fix or workaround
[06:22] <killedkillerb> !hotspot
[06:22] <celthunder> kebomix do you have dhcp on
[06:22] <killedkillerb> oh
[06:22] <killedkillerb> wifi
[06:22] <killedkillerb> good luck
[06:23] <C-S-B> DansTheMan, you could try the alternative install cd and using gparted to prep the drive
[06:23] <DansTheMan> C-S-B: I want it to install to drive D which is a partition
[06:23] <DansTheMan> I want to keep Windows on this machine as-well
[06:23] <killedkillerb> !wifi
[06:23] <scunizi> DansTheMan: seems there is lots out there on that model and issues running linux
[06:23] <kebomix> celthunder: yes and i tried "sudo dhclient eth0 " but no thing works , it is already connected to network with automatic ip
[06:24] <C-S-B> DansTheMan, and it doesnt show the 'guided use whole partition' bit
[06:24] <celthunder> kebomix ok so it has an ip do you have your routes setup?
[06:24] <DansTheMan> scunizi: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-609230.html
[06:24] <DansTheMan> It should work?
[06:25] <C-S-B> yeah, If you have a partition ready for it, it should work
[06:25] <kebomix> celthunder: routes setup  ?
[06:25] <DansTheMan> But there is stuff already on that partition
[06:25] <DansTheMan> I can access the drives now on Ubuntu
[06:25] <C-S-B> that you want?
[06:25] <C-S-B> if so, back up and resize with gparted
[06:25] <DansTheMan> And i'm using the "Try Ubuntu without making any changes"
[06:25] <DansTheMan> C-S-B: What?
[06:25] <k1en> hi, how do i printa bunch of pictures on the same page?
[06:25] <C-S-B> yeah, thats just a live cd
[06:26] <anooptp> hai every body
[06:26] <celthunder> kebomix route add default gw <gateway>
[06:27] <anooptp> how can i install javascript????
[06:27] <kebomix> celthunder: yes i have it
[06:27] <anooptp> some body please help me
[06:27] <k1en> anooptp, whats the problem?
[06:27] <celthunder> kebomix k can you ping the gateway?
[06:27] <DansTheMan> How do i get this "Live CD"?
[06:28] <kebomix> celthunder: no
[06:28] <k1en> DansTheMan, from the internet - google "ubuntu"
[06:28] <nadan> is there a command that will tell you where a command is loading ie mpd when i type mpd what file is it linking too
[06:28] <DragonRift> how do I make my install use the vesa driver
[06:29] <celthunder> nadan strace
[06:29] <DansTheMan> lol
[06:29] <DragonRift> I am new to linux
[06:29] <scunizi> DansTheMan: ubuntu.com for all the various downloads
[06:29] <BlueEagle> danstheman: If you are running "Try Ubuntu without making any changes" then you are running from the live cd.
[06:29] <celthunder> nadan nvm thats process links....i think
[06:29] <DragonRift> and could use some help
[06:30] <nadan> celthunder lol not sure to be honest quite what it did...  i guess it gave the details of the hole process or something
[06:30] <celthunder> kebomix ok type ifconfig -a whats the output?
[06:30] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle: Ok, i'm running from live CD then :)
[06:30] <DansTheMan> People, please help, i am stuck :(
[06:30] <celthunder> nadan yeah...it shows the process calls sorry not the files...though im sure if you followed the process calls it would show what files...
[06:31] <celthunder> danstheman what you need help with
[06:31] <nadan> celthunder, actually it did...  thank you
[06:31] <celthunder> nadan lol neato
[06:31] <raulh> i got an Nvidia Geforce 6600
[06:32] <g4lt-lappy> OKAY, THAT'S ANNOYING, IT WAS THE "DESKTOP EFFECTS" SOMEHOW SWALLOWING MY SHIFT KEYS :(
[06:32] <raulh> and i cant
[06:32] <raulh> set my resolution
[06:32] <raulh> above 600*800
[06:32] <raulh> why :[
[06:32] <epalm> say I have a wav file, and an avi file.  i want to kill whatever sound the avi contains, and embed the wav into the avi (which needs to be lined up precisely.  any ubuntu-friend software recommendations?
[06:32] <FloodBot3> raulh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <DansTheMan> celthunder: http://i40.tinypic.com/2h80r2s.png
[06:32] <g4lt-lappy> sorry, apparently it also swallowed a capslock event :/
[06:32] <DansTheMan> I cannot get passed that step
[06:32] <celthunder> raulh do you have the drivers installed
[06:32] <raulh> i tried but it failed
[06:32] <scunizi> raulh: go to system/Admin/hardware drivers and activate the 173 driver.. not the 177 driver..
[06:32] <BlueEagle> danstheman: Are you using a raid setup with sata disks?
[06:32] <eugen> hey, is there a way that I can rotate my secondary display 180 degrees with compiz?
[06:32] <raulh> alright i activated the 'reccommended'
[06:32] <DansTheMan> I think i have a SATA disk
[06:32] <eugen> I have an nvidia card, and nvidia-settings doesn't have any options to do so...
[06:33] <DansTheMan> and i am unsure what you mean by RAID
[06:33] <g4lt-lappy> eugen, sounds more like a job for xrandr
[06:33] <celthunder> dantheman...install your sata drivers
[06:33] <BlueEagle> danstheman: When unsure; google.
[06:33] <DansTheMan> How?
[06:33] <sammy> so I've tried setting TZ as :America/New_York and America/New_York in both .profile and .bashrc and the panel clock applet still shows the system timezone. any suggestions?
[06:33] <DansTheMan> I thought linux had all the drivers
[06:33] <browndog> Danstheman: did you try the other option from the boot menu - Install Ubuntu , underneath the Try...
[06:33] <raulh> bleh, it's on a deadlock at 88%
[06:34] <celthunder> dantheman raid is whre you use mutlitple disks as if they were one (raid 0) raid 1 is mirroring (one is just backup) 5 is ..spreading data across mutliple drives with one not used just in case a different one fails (5 might be something else but sounds right)
[06:34] <DansTheMan> browndog: Yes, however, i could not install it to drive D:\
[06:34] <sammy> btw, bash notices when I set the variable in .profile or .bashrc
[06:34] <DansTheMan> oh
[06:34] <scunizi> raulh: what was the recommended? the 173, 177 or 180 driver?
[06:34] <DansTheMan> I only have one disc drive
[06:34] <nadan> celthunder, that strace is actually pretty cool did it on ls and it displayed all the actions taken by ls
[06:34] <kyledr> how do i know what my default gateway is?
[06:34] <raulh> 177
[06:34] <raulh> i installed 173
[06:34] <raulh> by mistake
[06:34] <BlueEagle> danstheman: Not all drivers for every single piece of hardware is loaded by default. Also, notice how people prefix the target of what they are saying with the nickname of that person. It helps keep track of conversations.
[06:35] <celthunder> kyledr tracert google.com and itll show your gateway as the first hop
[06:35] <raulh> but now it finished do i have to reboot?
[06:35] <scunizi> raulh: 177 has issues.. 173 works better with the 6600 .. 180.11 also has issues..
[06:35] <celthunder> kyledr and yes there are better ways to do it but thats the easiest
[06:35] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle: I realise, i am a frequent IRC user myself :) Hmm, do you know where i can get these drivers
[06:35] <scunizi> raulh: ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:35] <TheFunkbomb> Hey, once I install a driver, is it possible for me to just delete the tar and the folder I extracted from the tar?
[06:35] <celthunder> dantheman what do you have for a motherboard
[06:35] <scunizi> TheFunkbomb: yes
[06:35] <celthunder> thefunkbomb yes
[06:35] <TheFunkbomb> scunizi, thanks
[06:35] <BlueEagle> danstheman: They should be on the cd already. What you want to do is open a terminal window and type lspci
[06:36] <DansTheMan> People that can help me, could you please join #help-danstheman. As conversation is getting quite cluttered here. Thanks :)
[06:36] <kyledr> celthunder: is tracepath ok?
[06:36] <DansTheMan> ok
[06:36] <TheFunkbomb> and you too celthunder
[06:36] <nadan> scunizi, when i changed my card drivers ctrl alt backspace gave me an error reboot however worked fine....  i know it resets the gdm but i figured i'd mention it.
[06:36] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle: Ok, i typed it and this massive list of hardware came up
[06:36] <BlueEagle> danstheman: That will give you a list of the pci-devices in your machine. What you want to look for there is IDE, SATA and/or RAID and see what you find. You then google that with the added words "linux module" and find out which module you should have loaded.
[06:36] <celthunder> kyledr traceroute google.com the first hop is your router...which is your gateway...if you have a static ip its also in /etc/network/interfaces and if you want you could check route -n and itll show your gateway
[06:37] <DansTheMan> o..k
[06:37] <scunizi> nadan: happens sometimes but not to everyone
[06:37] <TheFunkbomb> Next topic.  I have an external USB wireless card.  Is there any way I can configure it so as soon as I plug it in, it's ifconfing RAUSB0 down and in monitor mode?
[06:37] <raulh> thanks for the help it worked!
[06:37] <BlueEagle> danstheman: Then you type lsmod and see if the module mentioned in the google results are listed there.
[06:37] <scunizi> raulh: yea!
[06:37] <loafers> Why does ubuntu release every 6 months and not on a day to day basis?
[06:37] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle: http://i40.tinypic.com/2h80r2s.png
[06:37] <raulh> Scunizi: one more question how does ubuntu handle with wireless adapters?
[06:37] <DansTheMan> Whoops, sorry
[06:37] <DansTheMan> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 03)
[06:37] <DansTheMan> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
[06:37] <TheFunkbomb> loafers?  I don't understand
[06:37] <DansTheMan> Is that it?
[06:37] <BlueEagle> danstheman: You can add |grep <something> to search the output from commands for <something> like this: modprobe |grep nvidia
[06:37] <FloodBot3> DansTheMan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:38] <loafers> For example, some apps like deluge are outdated
[06:38] <celthunder> raulh, h what does that mean? "handle with wireless adaptors"
[06:38] <BlueEagle> danstheman: It is.
[06:38] <scunizi> raulh: fine.. but it depends on the adaptor.. most but not all atheros work fine..
[06:38] <raulh> the Drivers
[06:38] <loafers> why don't they update rather than waiting 6 months
[06:38] <scunizi> !wireless
[06:38] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle: Which one is?
[06:38] <TheFunkbomb> loafers, updates come as the programs are updated.  No guarantee that there will be a new one with Jaunty
[06:38] <BlueEagle> danstheman: Now head over to google and google for Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) linux module
[06:38] <raulh> i have  a Tenda TW[xxx](u)
[06:38] <celthunder> raulh look up the chipset and you'll be fine
[06:39] <raulh> already tried it there's nothing for it on any search engines for linux
[06:39] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, can you find linux drivers for it?
[06:39] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, what chipset is it?
[06:39] <Adman65> Hey, anyone have problems with ruby gems
[06:39] <DansTheMan> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Intel+Corporation+82801HBM%2FHEM+(ICH8M%2FICH8M-E)+linux+module&btnG=Search&meta=
[06:39] <BlueEagle> danstheman: You may want to search for sata aswell if it is a sata and not a pata disk you have.
[06:39] <DansTheMan> I am so confused
[06:39] <raulh> tenda twl541u
[06:39] <loafers> TheFunkbomb, why not?  I read ubuntu wants to be stable right?  But the way I see it, developers wouldn't release something unless it wasn't stable or labled as unstable
[06:39] <Adman65> mine times out and locks up my comp
[06:39] <BlueEagle> danstheman: When confused, stop and think about it for a while.
[06:40] <scunizi> raulh: that's the brand and model name.. try "sudo lshw" in terminal and look for it there.. you'll see the chipset type..
[06:41] <TheFunkbomb> yeah, I just went through this raulh.  If we can find some drivers for that chipset, I can tell you how to install
[06:41] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle: Is this correct? http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/ATA_PIIX.html
[06:41] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, also, try plugging it in and running sudo apt-get update.  My broadcom wasn't supported out of the box but once I ran the update and got the newest drivers, it workd
[06:41] <TheFunkbomb> err worked
[06:41] <raulh> alright looking thru the sudo lshw list right now
[06:42] <TheFunkbomb> I assume you have an ethernet port?
[06:42] <raulh> nono it's a wireless adapter
[06:42] <TheFunkbomb> yeah, but you also have an ethernet port, right?
[06:42] <raulh> yes
[06:42] <TheFunkbomb> plug into your router.  hardwire it
[06:42] <TheFunkbomb> run the update
[06:42] <BlueEagle> danstheman: I came across this little gem: Through a BIOS option (disabled by default) the D630 supports the Advanced Host Controller Interface (AHCI), an open standard for SATA and PATA controllers. AHCI is well-supported under linux due to the availability of full documentation for driver developers.
[06:42] <TheFunkbomb> kind of sucks if it's a desktop
[06:42] <eugen> g4lt-lappy: can you tell me how to use randr?
[06:43] <TheFunkbomb> but if it's a laptop, no sweat, right?
[06:43] <raulh> ok i found the network unclaimed product 88w8335 libertas 802.11b/g wwireless
[06:43] <BlueEagle> danstheman: So you might have to head into the BIOS and make sure that if you have a similar switch like the D630 if AHCI is enabled.
[06:43] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, that's the marvel chipset I think
[06:43] <BlueEagle> danstheman: It may be listed as "Disable sata native mode".
[06:44] <raulh> vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
[06:44] <raulh> yes i think it is
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, try plugging in and making sure you have the latest updates first
[06:44] <BlueEagle> danstheman: What you can try first is, in the termial, type: fdisk -l
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> that's the easiest way to get stuff working
[06:44] <raulh> 290 updates oh goodie ;o
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> lol
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> they go fast
[06:44] <BlueEagle> danstheman: Does that show any disks at all?
[06:44] <raulh> i have crap broadband ;\
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> what version are you running?
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> 8.10?
[06:44] <raulh> hardy
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> ah
[06:44] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle: celthunder told me to do that on #help-danstheman
[06:44] <TheFunkbomb> well, give it a shot.  Maybe you'll get lucky that way.
[06:45] <TheFunkbomb> if not, let's see if we can find a work around
[06:45] <raulh> yea lol 277 mb is like 30minutes killbill is on anyway :3
[06:45] <BlueEagle> danstheman: Very well. I'll leave celthunder to it then.
[06:45] <BlueEagle> I need to go to work anyways. :)
[06:45] <DansTheMan> BlueEagle:
[06:45] <DansTheMan> Cannot open /dev/sda
[06:45] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, if it doesn't work, you can get the drivers it looks like
[06:45] <DansTheMan> Is what i get
[06:46] <shimakaze> could someone help me with 9.04 RC installation please? when installing, i'm getting stuck at 82% "Configuring apt - Scanning the mirror". after an exhaustive search online, the only solution i found was to unplug the network cable, but that wouldn't help because the machine isn't connected by wire; it's wireless
[06:46] <DansTheMan> when i type: fdisk -l
[06:46] <TheFunkbomb> hey raulh, you still with me?
[06:46] <raulh> yea
[06:47] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, here is a link in case that doesn't work.  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/
[06:47] <raulh> alright i appriciate it.
[06:47] <raulh> windows isn't doin me too good now-a-days.
[06:47] <TheFunkbomb> No problem.  The instructions look pretty complete.
[06:47] <ULFfunto> shimakaze: I've had something similar to that happen to me, but i just restarted the install... i think it was a nic connectin prob
[06:47] <TheFunkbomb> Just for the sake of conversation, why did you go with Hardy Heron?
[06:47] <TheFunkbomb> older computer?
[06:47] <raulh> lazy
[06:48] <raulh> to download a newer version
[06:48] <raulh> lol
[06:48] <TheFunkbomb> my second guess
[06:48] <raulh> it's not too old
[06:48] <raulh> maybe 06
[06:48] <TheFunkbomb> I don't have any experience outside of 8.10
[06:48] <raulh> i c
[06:48] <raulh> ive been off and on linux
[06:48] <TheFunkbomb> Oh yeah, your computer is newer than mine.  Mine is like 8 years old.  Single core
[06:48] <raulh> but im settlin down linux now
[06:48] <TheFunkbomb> Once you go linux, you never go back
[06:48] <raulh> mines a sephron
[06:48] <raulh> nice processor's no complains
[06:49] <raulh> realllly quiet
[06:49] <syntax\> a drive is not recognized even if i do fdisk -l
[06:49] <syntax\> what should i do
[06:49] <shimakaze> ULFfunto, that's what a lot of people said, but the machine isn't even connected with the nic. i've restarted the installation three times already. no luck
[06:49] <raulh> maybe the format isnt supported
[06:49] <raulh> FAT32's dont get read by linux do they
[06:49] <raulh> or was it ntfs
[06:49] <raulh> >_>
[06:49] <syntax\> disk /dev/sdb doesnt contain a valid partition table
[06:49] <BePhantom> could anyone help me with ndiswrapper? i installed a broadcom wireless driver,it's installed correctly but i doesnt work, when i try to configure the network i get a "could not find a network configuration tool" message, im using wicd, any help please?
[06:50] <ULFfunto> shimakaze: ok, when it happened to me I was using a router/client (whats it called... bridge) so I rebooted that too
[06:50] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, what chipset?  And what version of Ubuntu?
[06:50] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN ubuntu 8.10
[06:51] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, did you just install?
[06:51] <BePhantom> opened ndiswrapper and loaded the inf
[06:51] <TheFunkbomb> You just installed 8.10?  Hardwire it and run the updates.  I have BCM43XX too.  Updates took care of it
[06:52] <BePhantom> ndiswrapper says the driver is installed correctly, i try to configure the network and it says "could not find a network configuration tool"
[06:52] <raulh> aha, i know it's not a games section but theres this Quake type of game for ubuntu where u run and then u crouch and u fly anyone know the name of it?
[06:52] <wahnfrieden> raulh yes, homo sex on a dikky
[06:52] <raulh> grow up.
[06:52] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb i just download the driver from the updates and that's it?
[06:52] <wahnfrieden> oops wrong channel
[06:53] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, hardwire your computer to the router.  Run sudo apt-get update
[06:53] <wahnfrieden> raulh jumping flash
[06:53] <raulh> he means run the unbuntu updaets
[06:53] <shimakaze> ULFfunto: i tried that too. still no go. do you know if there's a way to terminate this apt configure step?
[06:53] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb yes
[06:53] <TheFunkbomb> try that first before messing with ndiswrapper or bwcutter
[06:53] <TheFunkbomb> or fwcutter.  whatever it is
[06:53] <BePhantom> ok TheFunkbomb
[06:54] <ULFfunto> shimakaze: well I know what I DON't like to do.. and that is install without the mirror. Because when you apt-get update it's messed up. Try this..
[06:54] <TheFunkbomb> if that doesn't work, we'll go from there
[06:54] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb will try now, did that work for you?
[06:54] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, yep
[06:54] <ULFfunto> make sure you have a normal connectivity with a livecd... then I bet you'll get past that hang
[06:54] <TheFunkbomb> I struggled for days with it
[06:54] <TheFunkbomb> all I had to do was run the update
[06:54] <raulh> oh the irony.
[06:55] <shimakaze> ULFfunto: ok, i'll give that a try. thanks!
[06:55] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb it seems im a member of your club too :D
[06:55] <ULFfunto> np
[06:55] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, is this your first experience with Ubuntu?  If so, it gets easier
[06:55] <syntax\> i can't mount an ntfs partiton sudo fdisk -l gives me disk /dev/sdb doesnt contain a valid partition table. help anyone/
[06:55] <TheFunkbomb> You're coming from windows, right?
[06:55] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb yes
[06:55] <raulh> syntax what type of drive is it?
[06:55] <SJr> flac2mps converters?
[06:56] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, been there brother (or sister).  Trust me, it gets easier and there are a lot of knowledgeable people here and on the Ubuntu boards
[06:56] <SJr> mp3
[06:56] <A3K> sorry to just jump in, but does anyone have experience getting a connexant cx23880 based tv card working?
[06:56] <TheFunkbomb> they all seem willing to help when they can
[06:57] <SJr> A3K: Yes but it involved throwing it out and getting a Happauge one
[06:57] <DansTheMan> Could i create another partition with the free space of D: and install Ubuntu 8.10 to that new drive without erasing any data from drive D:?
[06:57] <raulh> dans
[06:57] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, I'm sure you can but I'd back that up first
[06:57] <raulh> yea you can
[06:57] <raulh> resizing your partition
[06:57] <raulh> or install it inside D
[06:57] <DansTheMan> Well, i have nothing to back it up to
[06:58] <A3K> SJr some Happauge cards use that chipset
[06:58] <DansTheMan> raulh: How can i install it inside of D:?
[06:58] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, burn to CDs lol
[06:58] <raulh> if you run the live CD you can resize Partitions
[06:58] <raulh> is D windows?
[06:58] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Too many CDs needed then :D
[06:58] <DansTheMan> raulh: No, C is windows :)
[06:58] <TheFunkbomb> DVDs?
[06:58] <SJr> A3K I was just being facetious no I don't
[06:58] <Jessica_> Hi all. I'm having a pretty significant problem with Ubuntu 8.04 freezing.  Can someone help me try to figure out the cause? I'm very, very new to Ubuntu.
[06:58] <raulh> OH
[06:58] <raulh> even better
[06:58] <syntax\> can anyone help me out here?
[06:58] <raulh> pop in the CD while windows is running
[06:58] <c0l2e> what is the chkconfig conterpart in ubuntu??
[06:58] <raulh> and it will tell you where u would like to install it
[06:58] <scunizi> SJr: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/howto-convert-.flac-to-.mp3-544109/
[06:58] <raulh> and it gives u a choice in size
[06:58] <xangua> Jessica_: do you already updated Ubuntu ¿?
[06:58] <raulh> Sytax\
[06:58] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, how are your updates coming?
[06:58] <raulh> what type of drive is it
[06:58] <raulh> slow
[06:58] <raulh> :[
[06:58] <FloodBot3> raulh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <DansTheMan> raulh: I don't want it to install inside of Windows
[06:59] <raulh> i know
[06:59] <raulh> u can install it
[06:59] <TheFunkbomb> raulh, you should have the current updates.  Isn't Hardy a long term support?
[06:59] <raulh> in any drive ;3
[06:59] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb i install the driver from the hardware icon in the tray?
[06:59] <raulh> im actually not sure funk.
[06:59] <syntax\> raulh: its a ntfs partition containing backups. here's the output of fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/d3647ead9
[06:59] <Jessica_> xangua: I downloaded the software updates, but did not update to 8.10. I couldn't get 8.10 to install at all after 7 hours of trying, so I'm a little afraid to try updating.
[06:59] <ULFfunto> 7 hours?
[06:59] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, go to System>Administration>Restricted Drivers I think
[07:00] <TheFunkbomb> no, Hardware Drivers
[07:00] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb broadcom bta?
[07:00] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: It kept locking up/freezing or couldn't find my HDD. I gave up and installed 8.04, which installed first time.
[07:00] <raulh> yea i remember reading about linux or ubuntu not being able to read NTFS or FAT32
[07:00] <xangua> Jessica_: then what Ubuntu versión do tou have; 8.04 or 8.10 ¿
[07:00] <cole> ubuntu
[07:00] <raulh> but there's ways around it
[07:00] <wahnfrieden> is linux popualr in the gay community?
[07:00] <Jessica_> xangua: 8.04
[07:00] <BePhantom> broadcom sta TheFunkbomb ?
[07:00] <c0l2e> In Ubuntu console how can I add remove startup services like the one with other linux CHKCONFIG??
[07:00] <A3K> You are making me feel pretty good about my Jaunty Jackalope install experience :D
[07:00] <xangua> dasmaze: Uubntu is an OS, is not a program for windows
[07:01] <raulh> Syntax\: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[07:01] <cole> ubuntu9.04rc already released?
[07:01] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, I'd enable it.  Mine is Broadcom B43 Wireless Driver
[07:01] <lstarnes> raulh: fat32 can be read as vfat
[07:01] <lstarnes> cole: not yet
[07:01] <xangua> cole: no, is RC
[07:01] <A3K> the release candidate is avail
[07:01] <scunizi> wahnfrieden: do you want to get kicked? keep it up
[07:01] <syntax\> have you checked the link i gave you
[07:01] <lstarnes> raulh: and ntfs can be read with ntfs-3g.  both can be written
[07:01] <xangua> Jessica_: then have you already updated Ubuntu ¿?
[07:01] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: incredible
[07:01] <Jessica_> A3K: I have an uncanny ability to have the absolutely most difficult problems ever with technology. ;P
[07:01] <wahnfrieden> im sorry
[07:01] <raulh> yes i saw it
[07:01] <wahnfrieden> ill stop
[07:01] <syntax\> raulh: check this link http://pastebin.com/d3647ead9
[07:01] <wahnfrieden> i got a little drunk ;/
[07:01] <BePhantom> instalate el sta
[07:01] <BePhantom> oops
[07:02] <syntax\> fdisk doesnt identify it as an ntfs partition.
[07:02] <scunizi> wahnfrieden: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:02] <cole> oh ,i see 3Q
[07:02] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: describe your rig pleez
[07:02] <A3K> Jessica_ my only problems tend to involve drivers...and usually the worst are wireless
[07:02] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb broadcom 43 was enabled, im installing sta now
[07:02] <cole> I'm waiting for the day 23th April
[07:03] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, cool.  Good luck and have fun!
[07:03] <DragonRift> I updated my gfx driver
[07:03] <DragonRift> and am now stuck at a CLI
[07:03] <DragonRift> and my keys are all doing wrong characters
[07:03] <raulh> Syntax\ has it been currupted maybe it got droped?
[07:03] <celthunder> dragonrift...set your locales that should fix your keys...and what graphics card and waht drivers did you install
[07:03] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: Intel Core 2 Duo 7400 (2.8 Mhz I think), 500GB WD HDD, 4GB DDR2, ATI Radeon 3650, 600W power supply...um...anything else?
[07:03] <DansTheMan> How do i create a partition inside of Ubuntu?
[07:03] <DragonRift> how
[07:03] <DragonRift> I am new to linux
[07:03] <Jessica_> A3K: Amazingly, I got the wireless to work no problem, haha
[07:04] <raulh> try using Fdisk
[07:04] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: nah your way fine... i wonder what happened
[07:04] <raulh> it can resize aswell i think
[07:04] <k1en> DansTheMan, install gparted
[07:04] <skyshadow> helo, do you speak russian?
[07:04] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, I use gParted
[07:04] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: What is that/how do i use it?
[07:04] <DragonRift> celthunder
[07:04] <syntax\> raulh: i just copied a backup ealier from that particular drive. then when i booted it again. poof. its not recognized.
[07:04] <A3K> Jessica_ Lucky you. I am beginning to believe that wireless is the debil
[07:04] <scunizi> !ru | skyshadow
[07:04] <raulh> hmm was it bein read from ubuntu before?
[07:04] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, go into Add/Remove and search for gparted.  Install it.  It's very easy to figure out
[07:04] <syntax\> yeah
[07:04] <k1en> DansTheMan, open terminal run "sudo apt-get install gparted" , its a graphical tool
[07:04] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: My husband and I kinda think it might be a mobos compatibility issue, but we can't find any info on it.  It's a Gigabyte with the Intel P43 chipset
[07:04] <syntax\> a couple of minutes ago.
[07:04] <raulh> wierd!
[07:04] <syntax\> i copied a 3gb backup.
[07:05] <celthunder> dragonrift:  yes?
[07:05] <A3K> Jessica_ that and I cannot figure out how to get my TV Tuner card working
[07:05] <raulh> ive never encountered a drive randomly stop bein read
[07:05] <syntax\> that disk contains back ups :D
[07:05] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb no luck
[07:05] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, No?  :(
[07:05] <syntax\> not really..
[07:05] <Jessica_> A3K: Did you try ndisgtk? (haha listen to me, like I know what I'm talking about - but that's how i got my drivers installed and working for wireless)
[07:05] <DragonRift> I am stuck
[07:05] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, Did you restart?
[07:05] <DragonRift> please help me
[07:05] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Ok, i'm on Add/remove and i found gparted but i am unsure how to run it
[07:05] <syntax\> raulh: as i checked earlier the backup finished,.
[07:06] <TheFunkbomb> Dans, click the check box next to it and Apply changes
[07:06] <raulh> try looking for it in the applications or try Gparted in the terminal
[07:06] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb done that
[07:06] <A3K> Jessica_ oh yeah...I tried that...and many hours of attempting to cast demons out of my computer. I stopped just short of holy water
[07:06] <k1en> DansTheMan, if install it will be in system>admin>partition editor
[07:06] <DragonRift> how do I get my desktop back
[07:06] <DragonRift> :/
[07:06] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, are you still plugged into the router?
[07:06] <ULFfunto> <vmware mouse issue
[07:06] <Jessica_> A3K: Haha I know that feeling well
[07:06] <BePhantom> hardwired TheFunkbomb
[07:06] <A3K> Jessica_ I finally cast the wireless card out of my computer and went hard wired
[07:06] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, unplug it
[07:06] <raulh> hey Syntax\ have you tried rebooting or ctrl+alt+backspace??
[07:07] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: It's already checked
[07:07] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, so that means you have it
[07:07] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: Do you know any way to check and see if the mobos is causing issues?
[07:07] <syntax\> ill boot without the hdd
[07:07] <ULFfunto> well lemme think
[07:07] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, go into System>Administration>Partitioning
[07:07] <syntax\> then restart.
[07:07] <DansTheMan> k1en: Thanks
[07:07] <syntax\> then put the hdd back again
[07:07] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: ok describe exactly what occurred
[07:07] <TheFunkbomb> Partitions Manager
[07:07] <Jessica_> A3K: Haha that sounds like a good solution.    It doesn't seem to happen at any regular interval - just several times a day.  Sometimes it will happen 3-5 minutes after logging in, sometimes several hours after logging in
[07:09] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Yes :)
[07:09] <raulh> jessica when did that happen?
[07:09] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: I looked in the system log to see if there was some kind of message when it froze, but I don't understand enough of it to make sense of what it says
[07:09] <A3K> Jessica it is a Linksys rangeplus
[07:09] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, go up to the upper right and chose the drive
[07:09] <irmandos> I see you're all really busy but can anyone please verify a file for me on their ubuntu system
[07:09] <Jessica_> raulh: It's been happening randomly since I installed Ubuntu on Tuesday.
[07:09] <DragonRift> I am stuck
[07:09] <BePhantom> TheFunkbomb it's the same
[07:09] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: ok, you know about IRQs? try: cat /proc/interrupts
[07:09] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Where's that
[07:09] <raulh> maybe the pc can't handle that version
[07:09] <A3K> Jessica_ uses wmp110
[07:09] <BePhantom> nothing happens TheFunkbomb
[07:09] <moolah> hello all
[07:10] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, hmmm.  You're using gnome?
[07:10] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: because that's what usually can cause a hard-lockup
[07:10] <BePhantom> yes TheFunkbomb
[07:10] <scunizi> !ask | irmandos
[07:10] <moolah> fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 on a new system, 64 bit, my broadcom 4318 wireless card isnt working though
[07:10] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, in the upper right hand corner of gparted
[07:10] <BePhantom> and wicd TheFunkbomb
[07:10] <raulh> Ndiswrapper moolah?
[07:10] <DansTheMan> drive isn't there
[07:10] <moolah> i've  tried several sites online, i followed the instructions here http://linuxwindows.org/2008/05/install-bcm43xx-on-ubuntu-804.html and it didnt work
[07:10] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: I don't know what IRQs are, sorry. I'm extremely new, haha.
[07:10] <TheFunkbomb> BePhantom, I could swear that would work...    Let me put that in.
[07:11] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Yes
[07:11] <moolah> the thing is, it shows up under iwconfig, but not ifconfig
[07:12] <TheFunkbomb> click on that
[07:12] <andrew[andrboot]> DragonRift what is your problem?
[07:12] <raulh> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/ technically for a diffrent driver but the same steps apply
[07:12] <DragonRift> bazhang: then help me for 30 seconds please
[07:12] <TheFunkbomb> that's a listing of all the drives
[07:12] <DansTheMan> ok, there's only one option, /dev/sda; TheFunkbomb
[07:12] <DragonRift> I installed the video driver
[07:12] <DragonRift> from the desktop
[07:12] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: then compare that with the install that is giving you problems... maybe its different
[07:12] <andrew[andrboot]> what "video" driver?
[07:12] <DragonRift> the one it recommended
[07:12] <irmandos> I intend on writing a bash script for checking the distro. I have come acros /var/log/installer/lasb-release and would like to know if that would be a good file 2 use for such checking?
[07:12] <scunizi> DragonRift: everyone here is a volunteer.. maybe they don't know the answer to your question.. maybe it's best to try later .. or much later .. or in the morning
[07:12] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, are you set up with RAID?
[07:12] <DragonRift> said activate
[07:12] <tritium> DragonRift: watch your language, with no conditions on it
[07:12] <DragonRift> and now I am stuck at a cli
[07:12] <raulh> dragonrift have you rebooted? alt+ctrl+backspace?
[07:12] <andrew[andrboot]> cli ?
[07:12] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: What is this RAID everyone is talking about? :p
[07:12] <DragonRift> Command Line
[07:12] <DragonRift> I don't hardly know linux
[07:12] <DragonRift> this is day 1
[07:13] <c0l2e> how can I install umtsmon in ubuntu??
[07:13] <andrew[andrboot]> DragonRift restart ur box
[07:13] <DragonRift> I am lost
[07:13] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, RAID Redundant Array something or another
[07:13] <raulh> oh, well try ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:13] <DragonRift> I have
[07:13] <FloodBot3> DragonRift: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:13] <raulh> its a relog/semi-reboot.
[07:13] <DragonRift> it keeps going back to CLI
[07:13] <moolah> raulh: before i do that, is there a reason it shows up under iwconfig but not ifconfig
[07:13] <TheFunkbomb> It makes all your drives look like one big drive
[07:13] <ULFfunto> DragonRift: books... books about linux
[07:13] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Ok, how do i set it up?
[07:13] <TheFunkbomb> No, we don't want that
[07:13] <scunizi> raulh: DragonRift ctrl+alt+backspace is not a reboot but a restart of the gui.. the underlying system isn't touched..
[07:13] <Flannel> DragonRift: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation.  It makes it entirely impossible to follow you.
[07:13] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: when you say compare that with the install that's giving me problems, do you mean compare it to what it says in the system log? (Sorry if I sound like an idiot.)
[07:13] <adam7> DansTheMan: but if one drive fails, then you lose all the data
[07:13] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, why isn't your D drive mounted?
[07:13] <DansTheMan> It is
[07:13] <TheFunkbomb> adam7, depends on the RAID you have set up
[07:14] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, then why isn't it showing up in gparted?
[07:14] <adam7> TheFunkbomb: with "everything as one big drive" you will
[07:14] <raulh> ive never seen cutter so i dont know sorry
[07:14] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: well yeah... but what I meant was also cat /proc/interrupts the sick computer... then compare
[07:14] <TheFunkbomb> adam7, not if you set up a raid 1+0 or a Raid 5
[07:14] <_motti_> hi guys.
[07:14] <adam7> TheFunkbomb: I know. But the conversation appeared to be going for RAID 0
[07:15] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: what was the exact name of that sick install? just to verify
[07:15] <TheFunkbomb> right right, we don't need to argue over it lol
[07:15] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: I think it is
[07:15] <ULFfunto> x86 or AMD64?
[07:15] <DansTheMan> the drive i want to partition is sda3
[07:15] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: It's Ubuntu 8.04...is that what you mean? I'm actually on my macbook now - I have Ubuntu on my desktop
[07:15] <ULFfunto> ok
[07:15] <cole> DragonRift:first sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/stop,and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/start
[07:16] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: did you install from the DVD or server-cd?
[07:16] <patrik> Hi, I'm looking for a hardware raid controller for my desktop (RAID 0)  but cannot make out if they're hardware or software RAID. Could someone recommend a product that isn't too expensive but still is supported in Ubuntu?
[07:16] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, you only have 6 gigs free on that drive.
[07:16] <cole> DragonRift:if have some error hint,please paste it
[07:16] <_motti_> I'm using a newly installed ubuntu 9.04 and I can't install mouse cursor themes I have downloaded from gnome-looks. I tried drag and dropping them to the appearance app and looks like it install the theme but when I go to the pointer tab I don't see the new theme. I tried two different themes and they both appear in my .icon folder after installation
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[07:16] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: CD, desktop version that I d/l'ed from the website
[07:16] <ULFfunto> <jaunty alpha server-cd
[07:17] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Yeah, so?
[07:17] <A3K> I think my problem is the modules or drivers are not loaded and I cannot get them loaded :/
[07:17] <A3K> mine ignorance
[07:17] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, I don't want to be the one who makes you lose all that data.
[07:17] <TheFunkbomb> :(
[07:17] <daurnimator> hi all
[07:17] <ULFfunto> hello
[07:17] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: Why do i have to lose all the data?
[07:17] <TheFunkbomb> I'm not that experienced.  I took you to where I could
[07:17] <DansTheMan> TheFunkbomb: What's wrong?
[07:17] <daurnimator> is there a util that automaticaly adds a new pariotion to fstab?
[07:18] <TheFunkbomb> DansTheMan, You probably won't.  I'm just not sure enough in myself for you to risk it
[07:18] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: try the server-cd... and if that works :)
[07:18] <raulh> dan
[07:18] <raulh> if you partition
[07:18] <raulh> all of it it WILLdelete everything
[07:18] <DragonRift> k1en: ok
[07:18] <raulh> your best shot is to Resize the partition
[07:19] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: That's the "alternate" version right? So I should re-install? I don't have any data on there, other than random drivers - it's a brand new desktop
[07:19] <DansTheMan> raulh: Can you please come to #help-danstheman and please explain?
[07:19] <DansTheMan> :)
[07:19] <ULFfunto> Jessica_: PM me and I'll explain real quick
[07:19] <Jessica_> ULFfunto: Haha thanks.
[07:19] <k1en> guys- lets help DragonRift , he installed restricted drivers on intrepid for Nvidia and now he drops into shell, does he need to recognfigureX or get rid of the drivers?
[07:20] <moolah> ok i can see my wireless card under iwconfig as wlan0
[07:21] <moolah> but doing: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up gives me an error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[07:22] <xangua> hurra ya salío naruto 444
[07:22] <xangua> jum sorry, wrong channel *
[07:23] <TheFunkbomb> where did BePhantom run off to?
[07:23] <raulh> probly fixed it and decided to leave ;D
[07:24] <alen> yagami
[07:24] <k1en> guys- how does one reconfigure X these days? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg?
[07:24] <TheFunkbomb> my next suggestion for him was to make sure he had gnome network manager installed
[07:26] <standingstill> ok...please take mercy on this newbie
[07:27] <standingstill> i've got an vmware server question
[07:27] <celthunder> standingstill, ok ask?
[07:27] <standingstill> ok...
[07:28] <standingstill> so i just installed vmware server...but its not showing up in my system tools
[07:28] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[07:28] <standingstill> and i can't figure out how to get it there
[07:28] <DansTheMan> Thanks for all your help guys, i'm going to try raulh's suggestion :)
[07:29] <standingstill> nor can i figure out how to launch it from the terminal
[07:29] <prague> this the 1st time i saw netsplit live, LOL
[07:29] <phantom1> Hi all is Release Candidate=Final version?
[07:29] <popey> no
[07:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 phantom1
[07:30] <xangua> Release Candidate is not Final Versión ........................
[07:30] <phantom1> thanx
[07:30] <xangua> is (sic) a candidate
[07:32] <DragonRift> whats the recommended nvidia driver by ubuntu?
[07:32] <zeno> everything on the top bar has become white, but usable
[07:32] <zeno> help?
[07:32] <A3K> DragonRift 3rd party Nvidia driver
[07:32] <DragonRift> which one
[07:32] <DragonRift> where
[07:32] <A3K> They supply it. You can get it from nvidia
[07:32] <popey> that would be 1st party nvidia driver :)
[07:33] <A3K> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[07:33] <DragonRift> not the one recommended by xserver?
[07:33] <popey> DragonRift: system -> administratioo -> hardware drivers, install it there
[07:33] <popey> not from nvidia.com
[07:33] <DragonRift> popey: I did and it !@#$ my install
[07:33] <A3K> yeah. That is the easy way :)
[07:33] <popey> its the recommennded way
[07:33] <standingstill> can anyone answer a vmware server install question?
[07:34] <A3K> I guess proprietary was the term I was looking for...not 3rd party :)
[07:34] <popey> :)
[07:35] <A3K> so popey you have no experience with TV tuner cards?
[07:36] <k1en> DragonRift, it is quite possible that after a reinstall it will be okay. If your keyboard map is wrong it must show that there are other problems
[07:36] <DragonRift> k1en: I am reinstalling now
[07:36] <DragonRift> its 90% done
[07:36] <k1en> That is fast,,,,
[07:37] <k1en> You live in america?
[07:37] <DragonRift> Canada
[07:37] <k1en> you use the canadian servers?
[07:37] <DragonRift> yeah
[07:37] <k1en> ok
[07:38] <DragonRift> brb in a sec
[07:40] <Muac> I have a rather pressing question...
[07:40] <Muac> Why does Ubuntu like to kill my system fan?
[07:40] <c0l2e> how can I set suid in ubuntu using nautilus??
[07:41] <raulh> kill your fan??
[07:41] <Muac> Like off
[07:41] <Muac> like, my system's going to reach critical temp and shut down in ~ 5 minutes
[07:41] <raulh> that shouldn't be a operating system problem.
[07:41] <raulh> your mobo controls that
[07:41] <Muac> fan works fine in windows and windows 7
[07:42] <Muac> windows XP, that is
[07:42] <raulh> there must be something that isnt letting ubuntu run and it's fighting against it
[07:43] <raulh> operating system shutting down a fan..? fan's don't even have breakers to turn em on or off o.o
[07:43] <Muac> yeah... that's why I was a little surprised
[07:43] <Muac> by the way, i'm in gutsy gibbon right now, but it doesnt work in hardy either
[07:44] <raulh> hmm, witch fan?
[07:44] <raulh> the heatsink fan or regular fans
[07:44] <Muac> laptop
[07:45] <Muac> heatsink fan, i'm assuming
[07:45] <raulh> dang that's a bummer..
[07:45] <Muac> lol
[07:45] <Muac> yep...
[07:45] <raulh> never opened a laptop before so i dont even know what a laptop's heatsink looks like
[07:45] <raulh> er, the fan.
[07:46] <Muac> the funny thing is, when my laptop starts up and goes through post, the fan runs fine
[07:46] <Muac> but when it starts loading ubuntu, it stops
[07:46] <Muac> I'm gonna see if i can't find a setting to play around with in bios
[07:46] <Muac> Brb
[07:46] <raulh> careful ;o
[07:47] <Muac> :P
[07:47] <Muac> don't worry, i've taken basics of computer repair and maintenance by cisco, i can't possibly screw up my computer :D
[07:51] <raulh> woooah, it got really quiet.
[07:51] <DragonRift> ok
[07:52] <DragonRift> I am bac to where its recommedning the restricted driver
[07:52] <DragonRift> 2 options
[07:52] <DragonRift> 172 ans 177
[07:52] <raulh> use the recommended
[07:52] <DragonRift> and
[07:52] <raulh> what graphics driver do you have
[07:52] <DragonRift> thats what I did before and it messes up
[07:52] <DragonRift> vesa atm
[07:52] <A3K> DragonRift there is a new driver that should be there...180
[07:53] <syntax\> how come i keep on getting low graphics on p4vmm2 mobo..?
[07:53] <DragonRift> not listed
[07:53] <A3K> but 177 should work
[07:53] <A3K> enable it
[07:53] <DragonRift> ok
[07:53] <DragonRift> for record sake
[07:53] <syntax\> is the mobo p4vmm2 ecs mobo not supported in ubuntu?
[07:53] <DragonRift> this is a clean install
[07:53] <DragonRift> I have done nothng yet
[07:53] <DragonRift> clicking enable\
[07:53] <A3K> when you start getting updates, 180 will probably show up
[07:54] <DragonRift> is it better to wait?
[07:54] <Muac> bah, no fun settings to play aroind with
[07:54] <Muac> Any ideas?
[07:55] <taz_> i try to fix with vlc movie or totem seem not work.. any one can help me ??
[07:55] <icewaterman> how can i upgrade to jaunty? the standard way via the gui doesnt seem to work (i do not get the chance to upgrade to a release candidate)
[07:55] <DragonRift> installing updates first
[07:55] <standingstill> can anyone answer a vmware server install question?
[07:55] <Flannel> icewaterman: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions.  Thanks
[07:55] <DragonRift> downloading them at 100 mbps
[07:55] <dqjhgpt> HELL
[07:56] <Ladyroses> Alo
[07:56] <syntax\> anyone?
[07:56] <Muac> cmon 5 more people in the room
[07:56] <DragonRift> wtf, slowed to 140 kb/s
[07:57] <DragonRift> this is bs
[07:57] <DragonRift> lol