[00:00] <noah> networkmanager is not saving passwords
[00:00] <Jordan_U> linuxmint: What is the output of "lsb_release -c"?
[00:02] <correa2> hey people, can i help me to make an shell script for build an personal firefox
[00:04] <lamogo> Anyone familiar with Bodhi Linux? Can't seem to find their channel and their site is down. Got a quick question about autostarting script.
[00:04] <Jordan_U> correa2: What is your end goal?
[00:05] <compdoc> ##Bodhi
[00:05] <compdoc> ooops
[00:05] <correa2> Jordan_U, I need firefox has the proxy, favorites and some active bars
[00:05] <linuxmint> Jordan_U: Codename qiana
[00:06] <Jordan_U> linuxmint: That's not Ubuntu 14.04. This channel only supports Ubuntu, not Mint or any other Ubuntu derivatives.
[00:06] <willbradley> has anyone else experienced problems alt-tabbing with Sublimetext?
[00:06] <willbradley> i only get it occasionally but it's super annoying
[00:06] <linuxmint> Jordan_U: Didn't you know that Mint runs on Ubuntu 14.04?
[00:07] <Jordan_U> !mint | linuxmint
[00:07] <linuxmint> Well, thanks for the help.
[00:07] <daftykins> linuxmint: i always wondered why you used that nickname in here.
[00:07] <lamogo> #bodhi is empty
[00:08] <linuxmint> daftykins: I run another server on Ubuntu, so that might cause confustion, but this sound error is on Mint.
[00:08] <daftykins> linuxmint: ah ok. are you in their channel on their server?
[00:08] <MACscr> so i removed unity and installed xfde and unfortunately now its just booting to a dark grey background. I can see my mouse pointer move and i can hit ctrl+alt+delete to see my open processes, but thats about it. Any suggestions?
[00:08] <lamogo> are they not on freenode?
[00:09] <linuxmint> daftykins: I'm on a Mint desktop today, but usually I'm sshing into the Ubuntu server for fixing it.
[00:09] <linuxmint> ok, have to go.
[00:09] <daftykins> lamogo: see ubottu's reply just above
[00:09] <correa2> !mint
[00:09] <daftykins> yes, or you could've looked one screen up :P
[00:10] <Jordan_U> MACscr: Is the grey background before or after you login?
[00:11] <MACscr> Jordan_U: no login and this is an htpc and i have it set to auto login
[00:11] <Jordan_U> MACscr: Did you make XFCE the default session? If so, how?
[00:12] <correa2> Jordan_U can u help me ?
[00:12] <MACscr> yes, i used update-alternatives --config x-session-manager and set it to startlxde
[00:13] <Jordan_U> correa2: I don't understand what you mean by "I need firefox has the proxy, favorites and some active bars". Could you please rephrase your question?
[00:13] <MACscr> ignore him. im more important
[00:13] <MACscr> lol, jk
[00:14] <Jordan_U> MACscr: I'm not sure that that is the correct method for lightdm. Try disabling auto-login and select XFCE as a session manually at the login screen.
[00:14] <correa2> Jordan_U I look for any way to create a script that let my firefox with proxy, favorites, etc. adjusted.
[00:15] <noah> network manager is having issues with kwallet
[00:15] <Jordan_U> correa2: I'm sorry but I still don't understand what that means :(
[00:16] <Jordan_U> correa2: Do you want to have two firefox profiles? One profile would have one set of options, and the other would have a different set?
[00:18] <correa2> Jordan_U I am installing several computers, and I'd like a bash script sets the proxy, bookmarks, etc .. I have heard about creating a personlizado package firefox for me
[00:26] <Jordan_U> correa2: A personalized package seems like overkill. I would just configure everything once, then copy that machine's ~/.mozilla/firefox/ directory to all of the other machines (assuming that they are all starting off fresh, without any other existing individual preferences that need to be preserved).
[00:32] <Gokhan> hi
[00:32] <MACscr> Jordan_U: hmm, must be lightdm related. I did disable autologin with it and i was able to select lxde and it loaded
[00:32] <xreal> Why should I switch from Debian to Ubuntu for server use? Please summarize the differences from your own point of view. I don't need any GUI or x-server.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> MACscr: LXDE or XFCE?
[00:32] <Gokhan> /sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login
[00:32] <Gokhan> /sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login
[00:32] <Gokhan> /sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login
[00:32] <Gokhan> /sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login
[00:33] <MACscr> lxde
[00:33] <MACscr> xreal: more up to date packages from repo
[00:33] <MACscr> repos
[00:34] <MACscr> think of it more like fedora vs redhat
[00:34] <xreal> MACscr: is this good or bad? more "up to date" might be like "more unknown bugs" ?
[00:34] <MACscr> though ubuntu server is much better than fedora as a server imho
[00:34] <MACscr> xreal: i stick with LTS versions for servers and its been fine for me over the years
[00:35] <MACscr> i still use debian for some projects, but mostly only because the particular software is tested against it better than ubuntu
[00:35] <xreal> MACscr: which one? sorry for asking details
[00:35] <MACscr> what are you using the server for?
[00:35] <MACscr> xreal: Foreman
[00:36] <xreal> MACscr: OpenStreetMap: data import, postgresql etc.
[00:36] <MACscr> and another is webvirtmgr
[00:42] <ceberous> hello
[00:44] <p0wder> Anyone familiar with wireshark?
[00:45] <daftykins> yes
[00:45] <p0wder> I installed Wireshark on a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04 lts.  My interface list shows everything but the pseudo-interface.  Anyone have an idea what is going on here?
[00:45] <p0wder> I asked the same question in the #wireshark chat but no one is responding
[00:46] <daftykins> can't say i'm familiar with a pseudo interface
[00:46] <p0wder> it's the interface that basically sniffs all network traffic in promiscuous mode
[00:47] <daftykins> you might need to install gksu and run "gksu wireshark" ? if you're just running as your user right now
[00:47] <p0wder> is that like running wireshark with the sudo command?
[00:48] <daftykins> yes except you don't use sudo with GUI programs, you use gksu
[00:50] <p0wder> didnt work, hmmm.  I'm beginning to think my nic doesn't support promiscuous mode
[00:52] <Asblarf> Connection reset by beer
[00:53] <pixelkat> will packet loss effect ubuntu installation?
[00:53] <pixelkat> like make some things not work properly?
[00:53] <daftykins> oh pixelkat. packet loss in the context of installing an OS makes zero sense
[00:53] <Asblarf> packet loss while you're downloading packages?
[00:53] <pixelkat> that too
[00:54] <daftykins> not possible due to TCP
[00:54] <pixelkat> but i mean packet loss while downloading ubuntu iso
[00:54] <daftykins> !md5
[00:54] <Asblarf> no
[00:54] <daftykins> you hash your download to confirm it's good
[00:54] <pixelkat> because sometimes my ubuntu istalltion is fubard
[00:54] <daftykins> it can be corrupt, doesn't mean anything to do with packet loss :>
[00:54] <pixelkat> but if i nuke HD prior to installing, things usually work fine
[00:54] <pixelkat> with derrik boot and nuke
[00:55] <daftykins> that doesn't apply
[00:55] <Asblarf> packet loss is not the cause of your issue
[00:56] <daftykins> whether or not a disk has been zero'd before a clean install won't somehow affect the installation, if the media was good or bad
[00:56] <pixelkat> well ive noticed that when i install ubuntu or other linux distro over a current install things break, but if i nuke hd first things work properly
[00:56] <daftykins> pixelkat: why don't you state what's happening then we can go from fact rather than theory? :)
[00:56] <daftykins> you must have kept an existing /home
[00:56] <pixelkat> well this time
[00:56] <pixelkat> no
[00:56] <pixelkat> i told the installer to erase hd
[00:56] <daftykins> then you must not have formatted completely
[00:57] <pixelkat> i told ubiquity to erase hd and install ubuntu
[00:57] <pixelkat> then i installed xubuntu via apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:57] <pixelkat> and now various things dont work
[00:57] <pixelkat> so i was wondering if packet loss could be an issue since im on wifi
[00:57] <daftykins> ok so now we get to the truth
[00:58] <daftykins> adding xubuntu-desktop after a unity setup can make things go funny
[00:58] <daftykins> why not install xubuntu media?
[00:58] <pixelkat> ah
[00:58] <pixelkat> how
[00:58] <daftykins> download xubuntu ISOs.
[00:58] <pixelkat> is there a multimedia version of xubuntu?
[00:58] <pixelkat> i need screen recording software
[00:59] <daftykins> software is in packages, they can be installed on any version
[00:59] <pixelkat> ive also noticed that, i have better luck with things i install in ubuntu 12.04 as opposed to 14.04
[01:00] <pixelkat> but 14.04 has latest build of certain programs that i use
[01:00] <daftykins> could be more stable older versions, hard to say
[01:00] <pixelkat> like kazam
[01:00] <pixelkat> most likely more stable older versions
[01:01] <pixelkat> i think i will install 12.04 and be satisfied with stability over latest version
[01:01] <pixelkat> 12.04 is supported till 17.04 right?
[01:01] <daftykins> you could just install from 14.04.1 xubuntu media to do it right :>
[01:01] <daftykins> correct
[01:01] <daftykins> !precise
[01:01] <pixelkat> well the other thing about xubuntu is there are too many options
[01:02] <pixelkat> i like simplicity
[01:02] <Asblarf> so why do you want xubuntu?
[01:02] <pixelkat> but there are things about xubuntu that i like better
[01:02] <pixelkat> i wish i knew how to compile my own distro
[01:02] <daftykins> pixelkat: welcome to Linux and life with computers in general
[01:02] <pixelkat> to make best of both worlds
[01:02] <daftykins> i think that's going too far :P
[01:03] <Asblarf> take the one you have the least and pimp it
[01:03] <daftykins> anyway gotta run, laters
[01:03] <pixelkat> later
[01:03] <Asblarf> cu
[01:03] <pixelkat> well theres tons of pimping for ubuntu 12.04
[01:05] <Asblarf> go for it, then
[01:06] <pixelkats> kiwiirc is neat
[01:08] <noah> my network manager is nos saving secrets
[01:08] <noah> my network manager is not saving secrets
[01:08] <Asblarf> network manager is a piece of junk
[01:08] <Asblarf> it should be burnt
[01:08] <mindless_chaos> lol
[01:08] <Asblarf> just my opinion
[01:08]  * mindless_chaos has no issues with it
[01:09] <MichaelHabib> Hi, how can I mount an xfs partition using command line
[01:10] <bean> MichaelHabib, easily :) `sudo mount -t xfs /dev/driveyou'remounting /mnt/mountpoint`
[01:11] <mindless_chaos> you may have to run fdisk -l to see what dev it is
[01:12] <mindless_chaos> and make sure you make a directory to mount it too
[01:12] <Asblarf> or cfdisk ;)
[01:12] <mindless_chaos> yes yes
[01:13] <noah> im getting a No agents were available for this request. error
[01:13] <MichaelHabib> bean: I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdk,
[01:13] <MichaelHabib>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[01:13] <MichaelHabib>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:13] <MichaelHabib>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:13] <Asblarf> anyone using irssi here?
[01:14] <MichaelHabib> note that I can mount this same device normally on Puppy !  just one click
[01:14] <mindless_chaos> I am not using irssi right now, but I tend to use it usually
[01:14] <Jordan_U> MichaelHabib: /dev/sdk is a drive, filesystems are normally stored on partitions like "/dev/sdk1".
[01:14] <Jordan_U> MichaelHabib: You can list devices and filesystems by running "sudo blkid".
[01:14] <mindless_chaos> right now I am using xchat because I am being lazy
[01:15] <MichaelHabib> lolz.. ty guys .. i was missing the  "partition number" !!!
[01:15] <Asblarf> mindless_chaos: I suck at IRC, so n00b question: how do I get rid of "joined/quit" messages in my main chat window?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> MichaelHabib: You can probably mount this xfs partition with one click via nautilus as well.
[01:15] <MichaelHabib> mindless_chaos: i'm using Thunderbird with IRC add-on
[01:15] <MichaelHabib> keep my e-mails, contacts and chat in one location
[01:16] <MichaelHabib> ty mindless_chaos  Jordan_U bean
[01:16] <_x994> des français ?
[01:16] <Asblarf> _x994: ouaich gros
[01:16] <Asblarf> represente
[01:16] <_x994> sisi.
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Asblarf: /ignore #channel JOINS QUITS .
[01:17] <mindless_chaos> np
[01:17] <_x994> euh, tu gères un peu avec ubuntu ou tu débutes ?
[01:17] <_x994> j'ai un petit souci.
[01:17] <Asblarf> _x994: explique toujours
[01:17] <squinty> !fr
[01:17] <mindless_chaos> ah ha, see I knew it had to do with server
[01:18] <Asblarf> _x994: We should talk on #ubuntu-fr / On devrait aller sur #ubuntu-fr
[01:18] <Asblarf> Bashing-om: thanks
[01:18] <_x994> Asblarf je viens de m'y connecter, sorry.
[01:18] <Bashing-om> Asblarf: :)
[01:21] <mindless_chaos> plah
[01:21] <MichaelHabib> can I use "cp" to copy files to an ftp location ?
[01:22] <mindless_chaos> uh, on ftp, or local?
[01:22] <MichaelHabib> from local to ftp
[01:22] <mindless_chaos> because you can cp if you are there, but it doesnt work that way on ftp
[01:23] <mindless_chaos> if you are trying to put a file from local onto your ftp, then you use the put command
[01:24] <TrivialGravitas> Do you take Kubuntu questions here? Not actually KDE related
[01:24] <mindless_chaos> if you are trying to move a file from one dir on you ftp to another and you are in console, then you have to download then upload where you want it. get and put
[01:24] <bubbasaures> TrivialGravitas, yep
[01:24] <mindless_chaos> yes
[01:24] <Asblarf> TrivialGravitas: we take everythin, it's open bar
[01:25] <mindless_chaos> kubuntu is an alternate of ubuntu
[01:25] <bubbasaures> mindless_chaos, try to get used to perafcing with nicks please
[01:25] <TrivialGravitas> Oh good, kubuntu is dead. I upgraded to 14.04, And it dumped me into grub rescue. Error 'file not found'. I did a fresh install but still getting the same thing
[01:25] <bubbasaures> prefacing* doh
[01:26] <mindless_chaos> there is a way, but it's easier to just dl the ul
[01:26] <Asblarf> TrivialGravitas: did you upgrade or fresh install?
[01:26] <bubbasaures> TrivialGravitas, More than one HD per chance?
[01:26] <TrivialGravitas> One harddrive, but I run multiple partitions
[01:27] <TrivialGravitas> Asblarf: Upgrade first, then fresh
[01:27] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | TrivialGravitas this will save a lot of questions, post the url where you paste
[01:27] <TrivialGravitas> k
[01:28] <mindless_chaos> bubbasaures, word...
[01:28] <bubbasaures> ;)
[01:28] <Asblarf> ubottu: you're such a buzz kill ;)
[01:29] <Asblarf> ubottu: yet...
[01:30] <Nedal> Hi guys, I just install Compiz and the problem is .. it doesn t work ! no effect nothing is applied ! I don t what I m missing
[01:30] <Nedal> installed*
[01:30] <bubbasaures> Nedal, release and desktop?
[01:30] <Asblarf> compiz still exists?
[01:31] <Nedal> Asblarf .. It does
[01:31] <Nedal> bubbasaures Nothing at all
[01:31] <Asblarf> Nedal: interesting
[01:31] <bubbasaures> Nedal, Really if you do not understand say so.
[01:32] <pixelkats> ubuntu 14.04 uses compiz for visual effects
[01:32] <bubbasaures> Nedal, Is this an imaginary ubuntu?
[01:33] <Nedal> bubbasaures .. well I just installed the application as they said on a tutorial ... but nothing happened
[01:33] <bubbasaures> Nedal, What ubuntu release is this and what desktop?
[01:33] <Asblarf> Nedal: what tutorial? On which Ubuntu version?
[01:34] <Nedal> Asblarf .. Ubuntu LTS 14.04
[01:34] <TrivialGravitas> the script just hangs. It might be stuck on the encrypted partition
[01:34] <bubbasaures> Nedal, compiz was installed, do you mean the compiz gui?
[01:35] <bubbasaures> TrivialGravitas, Yeah, wont work there, I would just install again, there is a swap issue I believe, should be made after the install.
[01:36] <Asblarf> hmm
[01:36] <TrivialGravitas> other possible issue, when i installed it asked me where to put the bootloader
[01:36] <TrivialGravitas> I hit sda1, I'm wondering if I should have hit sda
[01:36] <squinty> Nedal:  see if compizconfig-settings-manager is installed
[01:37] <Nedal> bubbasaures ... I don t understand what you re talking about !
[01:37] <bubbasaures> Nedal, Did you install the Compiz Config Settings Manager  and not compiz
[01:37] <Nedal> squinty , yes it is
[01:37] <Nedal> bubbasaures Yes I did
[01:37] <Nedal> all the plugins too
[01:37] <alexgeist> do the daily vagrant box builds at cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/ include guest additions?
[01:37] <bubbasaures> Nedal, Thanks.
[01:39] <Nedal> bubbasaures_ I m don t really  doing well with english ( I m french) and I m not an expert on linux  neither
[01:40] <bubbasaures> Nedal, Be very careful with that settings manager, you can easily really mess up your desktop, easily fixed, but it may be from a command line and not the desktop.
[01:41] <bubbasaures> Nedal, No problem, there is a french ubuntu channel if you think that would help, but we understand you.
[01:41] <Nedal> bubbasaures_ I ve tried it once and it wasn t really helpful as this one for me
[01:42] <bubbasaures> Nedal, unity-tweak tool is used more often for modifying the desktop.
[01:43] <javnut> how can I copy over my cron jobs which I set up with gnome-schedule?
[01:43] <Asblarf> bubbasaures: I guess Nedal is here because in France it's a** o'clock right now
[01:44] <Nedal> so you re advising  unity-tweak tool  instate of compiz ?
[01:45] <bubbasaures> Nedal, compiz was installed already, hyou just installed a tool to change it. compiz can if you do not know exactly what your doing break the desktop, the unity desktop is a plugin in it. I would start with the unity-weak tool is all.
[01:46] <bubbasaures> Nedal, It may be what you want can be fully done with the unity-tweak tool
[01:47] <Asblarf> fun fact: unit-tweak tool is also called CompizConfig Setttings Manager
[01:47] <bubbasaures> Asblarf, wrong
[01:48] <Asblarf> wrong?
[01:48] <bubbasaures> Asblarf, They are not the same tool
[01:48] <bubbasaures> in fact ;
[01:48] <bubbasaures> ;)
[01:49] <Asblarf> damn you're right
[01:49] <Asblarf> I got confused, somehow
[01:50] <Asblarf> my bad
[01:50] <Asblarf> so, not so fun a fact, then
[01:50] <bubbasaures> Asblarf, No problem, just be careful to help when you know for sure is all in general; we all make mistakes.
[01:50] <bubbasaures> ;)
[01:50] <Asblarf> well, fun, but not a fact
[01:50] <Nytram> Just installed Ubuntu in place of mint. Fingers crossed. 8)
[01:50] <Asblarf> bubbasaures: will do
[01:50] <alexsson> mommy
[01:51] <Nedal> so i have to uninstall compiz ( i want to play it safe) and go for unit tweak bubbasures ?
[01:52] <bubbasaures> Nedal, No the desktop is actually inside compiz as a plugin, has to be there for that desktop. The tweak tool is for modifying the desktop, so is compiz, however compiz is tricky.
[01:52] <alexsson> Im so tired
[01:52] <frawg> Anyone here installed MAAS on top of vmware and been able to have it power up the virtual machines. Currently mine are staying off and can't get powered (without manual intervention)
[01:53] <bubbasaures> Nedal, compiz is called a desktop manager unity-tweal would be more of a desktop modifier.
[01:53] <bubbasaures> compiz is working you would have no desktop otherwise Nedal
[01:54] <Nedal> bubbasaures ok ! so i forget about compiz for modifying and not uninstall it and go for unit tweak
[01:55] <Asblarf> frawg: Nope.
[01:55] <frawg> Asblarf: Okies. Will keep digging
[01:56] <Asblarf> frawg: sorry about that
[01:56] <frawg> all good
[01:56] <bubbasaures> Nedal, My concern here is since your new, messing with compiz is well not so safe till you understand it, but it is your install, the tweak tool wont break the desktop in general.
[01:56] <Moonlightning> Trying to troubleshoot this GRUB installation; a couple people have told me to run an EFI shell. Is there a reputable source I can get one from? My machine doesn't seem to have a built-in one, and I'm wary of running the one the Arch wiki links to, especially since it's at such a low level.
[01:57] <Nedal> bubbasaures, I trust your knowledge you ve been helpful more than once for me .. So since i m a beginner  whatever you told me to do , I will do it
[01:57] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, it is basically msdos or gpt, partition table and associated partitioning, take your choice
[01:58] <bubbasaures> Nedal, Sorta like exercising you work up to the marathon.
[01:59] <squinty> Moonlightning:  might want to check the following to see if anything applicable to your situation  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[01:59] <Moonlightning> bubbasaures: GPT. The partition table seems fine; the machine will boot just fine…but only if I plug in the flash drive I installed Ubuntu from and tell it to load the GRUB configuration from the internal HDD. If I try to boot directly from the HDD, the machine's firmware says it can't find a bootable device.
[02:00] <Chelsea_Jurgens> Hi I am having trouble with a usb speaker. I have a usb microphone which works fine, but i have a usb speaker that does not. when i run lsusb it does not even recognize the device. Any suggestions?
[02:00] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, I'm not your best help in efi gpt is all, I know the difference and msdos really well.
[02:00] <alexgeist> for future reference, it appears they do! good news.
[02:01] <Asblarf> bubbasaures: can't parse your last sentence
[02:01] <squinty> Chelsea_Jurgens:  unplug the device and then plug it back in.  in a terminal type dmesg  and look at the end of the output to see if your device is recognized
[02:01] <bubbasaures> Asblarf, was it to you?
[02:02] <Asblarf> ?
[02:02] <Asblarf> bubbasaures: no, I was just puzzled
[02:02] <bubbasaures> Asblarf, Not my responsibility if the one I address needs a confirmation than I will, this is not a chat channel is all. ;)
[02:03] <ki7mt> squinty, assuming the usb speak actually has a sound card device in it, most are just amplified speakers
[02:03] <Moonlightning> bubbasaures: also having a bit of trouble parsing it.
[02:03] <Moonlightning> bubbasaures: You're not the best one to ask about EFI with GPT, and…?
[02:03] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, yes
[02:03] <Moonlightning> Well
[02:04] <bubbasaures> not the best wording sorry
[02:04] <Asblarf> bubbasaures: exactly my point
[02:04] <Asblarf> ;)
[02:04] <Chelsea_Jurgens> squinty: I'm not sure, would it be the last thing? I can't tell
[02:04] <bubbasaures> I will have my doctoral committee check my work thank you
[02:05] <ki7mt> Chelsea_Jurgens, Whats' the make / model of the usb sepaker set and what are you plugging it in too, desktop / laptop / other?
[02:06] <squinty> Chelsea_Jurgens:  if it doesn't show up there, afaik, then lsusb is not going to recognize (see ki7mt comment to me above)
[02:06] <Chelsea_Jurgens> ki7mt: sylvania SP258, plugging into my monitor which is plugged into my desktop
[02:07] <Asblarf> Chelsea_Jurgens: try plugging it somewhere on your machine directly.
[02:08] <squinty> ki7mt: maybe send your comments to the person asking.  dmesg was a valid way of identifying whether the device is actally a usb device or just powered from usb.  thanks
[02:08] <Chelsea_Jurgens> it's plugged into my laptop usb now. bluetooth does not work with it either
[02:08] <Moonlightning> squinty: the liveusb booted in EFI mode (I got a GRUB screen similar to the example), and as far as I can tell the HDD installation is also EFI. I wiped the partition map before installing, and there's an EFI system partition.
[02:08] <Asblarf> Chelsea_Jurgens: now it's plugged to your laptop can you see anything in dmesg?
[02:09] <Asblarf> unless your laptop is not running linux...
[02:09] <ytuty> anyone know why there is a fastboot file in root
[02:09] <Moonlightning> squinty: Secure Boot is enabled, but disabling it doesn't seem to make a difference: either way, I can boot indirectly from the USB, but not directly from the HDD.
[02:09] <ytuty> im using ubuntu 14.04 OpenVZ image
[02:09] <ki7mt> Chelsea_Jurgens, Just for Info, the USB plug provides the power to the device, the Audio channel appears to be Via Bluetooth on that particular speaker set.
[02:10] <Chelsea_Jurgens> ki7mt, so the audio channel can only come via bluetooth?
[02:11] <ki7mt> Chelsea_Jurgens, Unless there is some new fango technology that allows Audio of USB Power, yes, it's Bluetooth Audio.
[02:12] <bubbasaures> Asblarf, Honestly the moment you hit the channel I put you in ignore. Than, I saw you were trying to help people and knew very little and although my answer was not understandable to the both of you any one here with an inkling of the subject would understand, this is not an english class.
[02:12] <ki7mt> s/Audio Over USB Power/g
[02:13] <Chelsea_Jurgens> ki7mt: so i would need an audio in jack
[02:13] <Asblarf> bubbasaures: mate, if you want to help people you need to make understandable sentences. Most of your sentences are OK, don't get me wrong, it's just that one that didn't make sense. No need to get upset.
[02:14] <ki7mt> Chelsea_Jurgens, If it has an audio jack on the Speaker, that would work, connect headphone jack to the Audio in jack should work. I was just going to read the manual to see what it has.
[02:15] <ytuty> so anyone have any idea what the fastboot file is doing in root
[02:15] <ki7mt> Chelsea_Jurgens, It says it has a 3.5mm Aux-In, that should work with your Laptop speaker out.
[02:16] <ki7mt> But, Bluetooth should also work.
[02:16] <Chelsea_Jurgens> ki7mt: thanks. now i need to see if i can get it to pair via bluetooth to avoid the audio jack
[02:17] <ki7mt> Chelsea_Jurgens, That's what I think needs doign at the moment. I know the Bluze-Alsa package is part of the default install on 14.04.
[02:18] <javnut> how can I copy over my cron jobs which I set up with gnome-schedule for when I reinstall?
[02:21] <ki7mt> javnut each suer has their own crontan, they are stored in /var/spool/cron/crontabs .. you could cp them or whatever you want from there.
[02:21] <ki7mt> s/crontab/crontan/g
[02:23] <ki7mt> You could  also pipe it to a file: crontab -l > my-cool-crontab.txt o something. then back it up
[02:29] <javnut> how can I copy over my cron jobs which I set up with gnome-schedule?
[02:30] <drkokandy> Does anyone know about adding an upstream bug to a bug in Launchpad? I'm trying to add an upstream bug I created to a bug report, and Launchpad does not recognize the URL. The bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1347402
[02:30] <bubbasaures> javnut, You should just get used you making them that is easy work.
[02:30] <drkokandy> And the upstream bug is https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/bugs/726/
[02:30] <javnut> bubbasaures: no
[02:30] <javnut> anyway, I found the directory
[02:30] <ki7mt> javnut, It's supposed to be saved in the same place
[02:31] <javnut> nvm, I'm just used to having all the configuration in the home folder
[02:32] <javnut> it's in /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[02:33] <javnut> what about the desktop launchers (for gnome flashback) anyone know where those are?
[02:33] <bubbasaures> drkokandy, Bot sees the link I can as well, what was the issue?
[02:34] <ki7mt> drkokandy, Im not sure what you asking herel you want to update the bug, add to the bugs or something else ?
[02:35] <ki7mt> javnut, .desktop files, for non user created stuff, goes in /usr/share/applications/*
[02:35] <drkokandy> Launchpad has the ability to pair a bug to an upstream bug "+ also affects project" - but that linking isn't working for the upstream bug in this case for some reason bubbasaures and ki7mt
[02:36] <javnut> ki7mt: I'm using gnome
[02:36] <javnut> not unity
[02:36] <ki7mt> drkokandy, Ok, so it's not linking the bug. That's different. Probably best to ask / discuss in #launchpad for that one.
[02:36] <drkokandy> didn't know there was such a channel. Thanks ki7mt
[02:36] <ki7mt> javnut, it uses the same place
[02:36] <bubbasaures> drkokandy, I'm not familiar with the link your after, sorry about that.
[02:37] <drkokandy> thanks bubbasaures
[02:37] <javnut> ki7mt: nope, none of my launchers are there
[02:38] <ki7mt> javnut, Your wont be there, those are system install applicaiton launchers, yours are most likely in ~/.local/share/applications or somethign similar
[02:39] <javnut> ki7mt: only one of them is
[02:39] <ki7mt> javnut, check ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 or ~/.gnome~private
[02:40] <javnut> ki7mt: yeah, I remember it being in there
[02:40] <ki7mt> Im not going to log out to find them, but there ins a .dot file / folder somewhere in $HOME
[02:41] <PenguinAnon> Does anyone here have a favorite terminal multiplexer? I was going to try out tmux, but I'm interested in comparing a couple options.
[02:41] <ki7mt> You could seach $HOME for *.desktop  as that's what they should be labeled as.
[02:41] <javnut> .config/gnome-panel/launchers
[02:42] <javnut> I think last time I tried copying that though, it didn't work
[02:42] <javnut> I'm going to try it on a VM and see if it works out
[02:42] <ki7mt> PenguinAnon, I like guake especially on smaller laptop screens and such.
[02:44] <ki7mt> javnut, Could be in the Gtk folders also.
[02:44] <javnut> where are those?
[02:44] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, even though my scanner is listed on the SANE support page, it isn't recognised. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can utilise my HP SCanJet 5370c with 14.04?
[02:44] <javnut> /usr/share/themes?
[02:45] <bubbasaures> LTS14N00b, Have you opened printers to see if a driver shows
[02:46] <LTS14N00b> bubbasaures: My scanner doesn't show up in the printers list.
[02:46] <bubbasaures> LTS14N00b, This wizard is rather nice and has a debug built in, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[02:46] <ki7mt> javnut, ./config/Gtk-3.0 .. Gtk-2.0  ,, but I dont think Gnome3 uses desktop shortcuts in this manner anyway
[02:47] <LTS14N00b> bubbasaures: I'll give it a go.. Thanks.
[02:47] <ki7mt> javnut, https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
[02:47] <ki7mt> which uses : ~/.local/share/applications or /usr/share/applications  as stated earlier.
[02:47] <LTS14N00b> bubbasaures: "Sorry, HP Scanjet single function scanners are not supported by HPLIP. For possible Linux support, please visit: http://www.sane-project.org/"
[02:50] <bubbasaures> LTS14N00b, I missed the scanner part have you tried simple scan?
[02:50] <rapeclown> e1
[02:51] <bubbasaures> !ops | rapeclown nick
[02:51] <ki7mt> LTS14N00b, It sasy it's supported: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html  .. and .. http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-avision.5.html
[02:51] <IdleOne> rapeclown: change your nick to something less triggering
[02:51] <rapeclown> holy shit
[02:51] <rapeclown> really?
[02:52] <IdleOne> yes and I suggest you read the channel guidelines linked in the topic
[02:52] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[02:52] <lil-bitch> yes master
[02:52] <IdleOne> problem solved
[02:53] <LTS14N00b> bubbasaures: That's OK. These days you can't buy a single function device anymore, or it's hard to find... Yes I have tried Simplescan and Xsane - Neither recognise the scanner
[02:53] <bubbasaures> nicks like that are huge red flag
[02:54] <fizzle> q
[02:54] <mindless_chaos> :/
[02:54] <LTS14N00b> ki7mt: Yes, I agree it does state that it is suported, but it doesn't work, which is why I thought there may be another reason. I have unplugged the scanner form both the power and USB and rebooted, but it still isn't recognised.
[02:54] <ki7rw> after upgrading to webmin 1.730 i get this when trying to delete postfix mail: Failed to open temp file /var/mail/user.del : Permission denied
[02:54] <bubbasaures> LTS14N00b, Xsane is funky, I had to do a wipe and load of the config I believe to get it work on an old HP, I wish I could remember exactly.
[02:55] <PenguinAnon> ki7mt: Thanks, I'd forgotten about Guake. I'll give that a shot as well.
[02:57] <ki7mt> LTS14N00b, Best I can off is starting here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo  .. and .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane.d%20tutorial
[02:57] <fgordon> Hello2all
[02:57] <ki7mt> Hello
[02:57] <fgordon> Hmmm I hav a strange problem I cannot stop samba? and don
[02:57] <ki7mt> PenguinAnon, Yeah, I like the F12 hide / unhide .. work pretty well.
[02:58] <LTS14N00b> ki7mt: Will do, thanks for the links..
[02:58] <fgordon> 't know where it's started...
[02:58] <fgordon> I even killed all S*samba from te rc*.d
[02:58] <fgordon> but it still starts on bootup.....?
[02:58] <undecim> fgordon, maybe pstree can give a clue?
[02:59] <undecim> fgordon, you could always uninstall it
[02:59] <fgordon> hehe yes but I want to use it   but just not at the moment
[02:59] <fgordon> and I just think it
[03:00] <fgordon> s strange
[03:00] <fgordon> one moment will just reboot to use pstree
[03:00] <undecim> fgordon, Your pinky is too long XD
[03:01] <ki7mt> Well if you go into /etc/rc.d and remove the links, that surly would prevent it from starting. Not the right way, but should work
[03:01] <fgordon> yes thought so too
[03:01] <fgordon> but it still is running after booting
[03:01] <undecim> fgordon, Does another service depend on it?
[03:01] <fgordon> I also checked rc.local and crontab of course
[03:01] <fgordon> :D
[03:02] <fgordon> Hmmm don't know which service uses samba....?
[03:02] <fgordon> I don't have something special installed
[03:02] <ki7mt> I dont know but : sudo update-rc.d -f smbd remove :-)
[03:02] <mopao-mokonzi> hello from central africa !
[03:02] <undecim> I can't name one off the top of my head
[03:02] <X123> hello :)
[03:02] <mopao-mokonzi> waooh this thing does work !
[03:02] <mopao-mokonzi> Jesus !
[03:02] <ki7mt> Indeed it does
[03:02] <undecim> I'd say so
[03:02] <mopao-mokonzi> Where ar you guys based ?
[03:02] <ki7mt> Based?
[03:03] <mopao-mokonzi> yeah   where do u live ?
[03:03] <mopao-mokonzi> i am in Congo
[03:03] <ki7mt> This channel is for Ubuntu Support, may want to go into #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:03] <undecim> mopao-mokonzi, I'm in Alabama, USA. But maybe we should got to #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter?
[03:04] <mopao-mokonzi> oooh right this one is just for ubuntu support...apologies..i am new in here !
[03:04] <mopao-mokonzi> i shall let u get on with your business
[03:04] <mopao-mokonzi> but thanks for helping  !
[03:08] <taburlo92> what is
[03:08] <taburlo92> the last release of ubuntu?
[03:09] <lecoder> the term "release" is offensive and it triggers me, please change it
[03:11] <PenguinAnon> taburlo92: The most recent release is 14.10. The most recent long term support (LTS) release is 14.04
[03:12] <mopao-mokonzi> hey guys one question as i am new in here
[03:12] <bubbasaures> lecoder, Bad fishing history eh.
[03:13] <NikolaiToryzin> lecoder: Check your privilege, offensive is one of my trigger words.
[03:13] <mopao-mokonzi> is the irc chat program we using now using some sort of encryption ?
[03:13] <mopao-mokonzi> i know i could be checking using tcpdump
[03:13] <ki7mt_> mopao-mokonzi, No
[03:13] <mopao-mokonzi> but i am sure some of u know
[03:13] <NikolaiToryzin> It uses encryption, but with the server if you choose
[03:13] <NikolaiToryzin> It's just ssl
[03:13] <Laban> Hello!
[03:13] <NikolaiToryzin> Optional of course
[03:14] <Laban> Is there an easy way to change a whole bunch of filenames that are currently hard linked, into their own copy?
[03:14] <mopao-mokonzi> alright so it all goes through ssl then
[03:14] <Laban> I.e breaking the link.
[03:14] <NikolaiToryzin> mopao-mokonzi: optionally through ssl.
[03:14] <bubbasaures> mopao-mokonzi, You can tor the channel if that floats yer boat
[03:14] <NikolaiToryzin> In a lot of defaults and ways people connect they don't even use ssl
[03:15] <ki7mt_> If your asking if the this is a secure communication channel ( encrypted send/rcv) then no no it's not.
[03:16] <mopao-mokonzi> alright
[03:17] <mopao-mokonzi> can any of u point me to some url where i can learn how to set up ssl or alike on this chat...thanks in advance
[03:17] <undecim> Laban, I suppose if you found both links 'cp link1 link2' would "split" a single link?
[03:17] <undecim> I'll test that
[03:17] <PenguinAnon> mopao-mokonzi: What IRC client are you using?
[03:17] <ki7mt_> https://freenode.net/certfp/certfp-xchat.shtml
[03:17] <PenguinAnon> You should check the documentation for that client for instructions on how to configure SSL.
[03:17] <bubbasaures> mopao-mokonzi, What IRC client are you on?
[03:18] <ki7mt_> That example is Xchat, but the basics are the same. WOuld be a fare bit different for CLI clients like irssi and such.
[03:18] <undecim> Laban, well, you could do 'rm link2; cp link1 link2'
[03:18] <undecim> Anyone know how to enumerate links of file?
[03:19] <mopao-mokonzi> i am using xchat-gnome guys
[03:19] <ki7mt_> enumerate links ?
[03:19] <undecim> like: ln file file_link
[03:19] <undecim> given file, how can I get the location of file_link?
[03:19] <PenguinAnon> mopao-mokonzi: ki7mt_ has posted the link you need, then.
[03:19] <PenguinAnon> https://freenode.net/certfp/certfp-xchat.shtml
[03:20] <bubbasaures> mopao-mokonzi, ssl is in the edit fro the opening gui, the preferences has other stuff.
[03:20] <undecim> Or is enumerate the wrong word here?
[03:20] <fgordon> Hmmmm tested some stuff...... though still the same.....
[03:20] <bubbasaures> from*
[03:20] <fgordon> pstree shows   root-smbd----smbd
[03:20] <fgordon> root-nmbd
[03:20] <fgordon> root=init :D sorry
[03:21] <ki7mt_> undecim, Depends on what your wanting,  are you wanting to link one file to another or a list of files or lines within a file etc?
[03:21] <undecim> ki7mt_, Actually, I don't think I need to do that after all
[03:21] <ki7mt_> :-) ok
[03:21] <mopao-mokonzi> cheers guys ...merci beaucoup !
[03:21] <mopao-mokonzi> lol
[03:21] <undecim> ki7mt_, I'm considering solutions to Laban's question
[03:22] <fgordon> really strange is even as root I cannot kill -9 the smbd processes they seem to get restarted     is there any startup-thing in ubuntu different from other linux?
[03:22] <Laban> Found a quicker solution, not pretty but did the trick. Just cp -rp folder /tmp and then copy it back.
[03:22] <ki7mt_> undecim, well .. loop command and change the links.
[03:22] <Laban> (different fs)
[03:22] <Laban> It didn't answer the question per se, but solved the issue at hand.
[03:23] <undecim> Sounds good
[03:23] <undecim> You could have, for each file, done:  cp file file.bak; rm file; cp file.bak file
[03:24] <undecim> (if you have to do it on larger file sets)
[03:27] <Laban> Thanks undecim
[03:31] <eredwood> hello every one i have a ubuntu server, after I set up ufw and enable, now my server in Network will not open at all when I click on it.
[03:31] <mopao-mokonzi> aaah you might have locked yourself out
[03:32] <mopao-mokonzi> is there a chance you could access the machine physically
[03:32] <mopao-mokonzi> to change the rules ?
[03:32] <ki7mt_> that is within the realm of possibility :-)
[03:32] <eredwood> yes I ssh to the server with know problem
[03:34] <eredwood> i just ssh to the server with know issues
[03:35] <eredwood> if I disable ufw I can can get my samba file folder with now issue
[03:36] <forceful-funtime> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xSNiPx791A
[03:36] <forceful-funtime> you guys are pathetic
[03:37] <bubbasaures> that is the nicest comment we have gotten, thanks
[03:37] <undecim> I feel accomplished
[03:38] <forceful-funtime> trigger warning
[03:38] <forceful-funtime> http://motherless.com/C4C0B2E
[03:38] <forceful-funtime> http://motherless.com/C4C0B2E
[03:38] <forceful-funtime> http://motherless.com/C4C0B2E
[03:38] <forceful-funtime> http://motherless.com/C4C0B2E
[03:38] <forceful-funtime> http://motherless.com/C4C0B2E
[03:38] <bubbasaures> !ops
[03:39]  * rww looks up
[03:39] <Moonlightning> Not sure if SJW or just troll.
[03:40] <rww> ?
[03:42] <eredwood> In ufw I have port 139 and 445 open so that I can get to my file but , when I click on my same server in Network it will not open now
[03:42] <eredwood> 139 and 445 for samba
[03:46] <eredwood> is the the wrong room that i have connected too?
[03:48] <fgordon> uh wow I found the cause of my error :O :O seems my external usb where the OS was running from got too little power causing strange things :O :O
[03:49] <fgordon> at least when writing sometimes with heavy load   reading was ok
[03:49] <ki7mt_> eredwood, Im not a ufw expert, but have you popled a hole in the fw for Samba, somehting like:  sudo ufw allow Samba
[03:49] <ki7mt_> s/poked/popled/g
[03:50] <fgordon> interfaces in smb.conf is ok too?
[03:50] <fgordon> maybe also restricted
[03:51] <NoobsFlyRNP> I'm trying to add a new user using sudo adduser xxxxxxxx but I keep getting an error when I retype the new password:
[03:51] <NoobsFlyRNP> passwd: Permission denied
[03:51] <NoobsFlyRNP> passwd: password unchanged
[03:52] <ki7mt_> sudo usermod -a -G sudo $USER
[03:52] <eredwood> Ki7mt let me try that
[03:52] <ki7mt_> You need to log out and back in for the group change to take affect.
[03:52] <croberts> ++
[03:55] <bilegt> I'm on X220 with i5 and 4gb. After working for a while and ram usage is around 70% (I have no swap partition), it sometimes becomes very slow. I'm plugged btw. is it normal?
[03:56] <ki7mt_> bilegt, no, use htop or top and watch for a memory leak in VIRT
[03:56] <NoobsFlyRNP> ki7mt, what does sudo usermod -a -G sudo $USER actually do?
[03:57] <NoobsFlyRNP> Also, I still get the same error: passwd: Permission denied
[03:57] <ki7mt_> modifies a users group and adds the sudo group to the user. You can see the groups a user belongs to by typing: groups from the command line.
[03:58] <fgordon> Hmmm as linux uses free ram for cache I would say 70% percent ram usage is normal? depending on what the ram is used for
[03:58] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, How did you setup the user to begin with ?
[03:58] <NoobsFlyRNP> I did an su to drop to root shell, passed adduser xxxxx
[03:58] <NoobsFlyRNP> And put in the password.
[03:59] <ki7mt_> fgordon, No exactly, see man mem
[03:59] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, Well, you dont need to drop to a root shell, just use sudo
[03:59] <NoobsFlyRNP> Tried that too. Same error.
[04:00] <bilegt> ki7mt_: does watching flash videos affect performance too much?
[04:00] <fgordon> Hmmm my computers < 8 gig have all ~ 80% usage only those with 16 gig or more have less
[04:00] <bilegt> ki7mt_: it seems to happen when I watch videos on utube.
[04:01] <undecim> bilegt, While watching the video? yeah
[04:01] <ki7mt_> bilegt, I dont know, I dont watch them .. but I do know, HTML5 is better than flash.
[04:01] <niceties> All these years and that trash Adobe flash is still around.
[04:01] <eredwood> Thank you ki7mt that was the tick I can get to my folders  now.
[04:01] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, Use this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/user-add.html
[04:01] <undecim> bilegt, Does the performance problem persist when you exit the page or something?
[04:02] <bilegt> undecim: it took a while to exit that utube page, and after that it became smoother
[04:02] <undecim> bilegt, It's possible that the flash plugin is misbehaving. What browser and what kind of system specs?
[04:03] <NoobsFlyRNP> ki7mt, that guide doesn't apply to shell commands, though.
[04:03] <NoobsFlyRNP> I am using Ubuntu Server with no gui.
[04:03] <niceties> bilegt: chrome has the newest flash. Its the only browser that uses its own version
[04:03] <bilegt> undecim: ubuntu 14.10 and latest chromium I guess
[04:04] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, Ok, well this one does: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/adduser.8.html
[04:04] <niceties> bilegt: chromium uses the old version of flash. It uses the same one Firefox does
[04:05] <bilegt> niceties: Even though I installed flash plugin, does chrome only use its own version?
[04:06] <niceties> Chrome uses its own version no matter what bilegt . You can force it to use the flash you installed.
[04:08] <niceties> Adobe stopped developing flash for Linux a few Years ago bilegt . Chrome uses the newest version that Windows uses.
[04:10] <bilegt> niceties: ok, so I'll try using chrome for few days and how it performs.
[04:10] <pixelkat> hello!
[04:10] <pixelkat> i finally decided.
[04:10] <pixelkat> ubuntu 12.04 for me
[04:10] <niceties> bilegt: chromium uses the old version.
[04:10] <ki7mt_> Why 12.04 and not 14.04 ?
[04:10] <pixelkat> stability
[04:10] <pixelkat> apps in 12.04 work better for me than in 14.04
[04:11] <nadimsite> 14.04 not stable?
[04:11] <pixelkat> for me it wasnt
[04:11] <vinit> ok
[04:11] <ki7mt_> Ok, well it's supported nonetheless, so go for it.
[04:11] <pixelkat> indeed!
[04:11] <pixelkat> :D
[04:11] <niceties> pixelkat: probably 14.04 is becoming bloated
[04:11] <nadimsite> Give us an app that doesn't work perfectly in 14.04
[04:12] <pixelkat> kazam
[04:12] <pixelkat> ppsspp
[04:12] <ki7mt_> niceties, that's a very ambiguous statement
[04:13] <niceties> ki7mt_: older machines run better sometimes on older versions
[04:13] <ki7mt_> Ubuntu minimal  + XFCE could in no way be considered bloated.
[04:13] <bubbasaures> pixelkat, There is a offtopic channel for chat, you can have an actual conversation.
[04:15] <pixelkat> wow so many people in here
[04:16] <Basketball> me
[04:16] <pixelkat> oh poop
[04:16] <pixelkat> OBS is only available on 14.04
[04:16] <Finetundra> does youtube-dl not work anymore?
[04:17] <ki7mt_> What is OBS ?
[04:17] <pixelkat> open broadcasting software
[04:17] <ki7mt_> Ok
[04:17] <pixelkat> i use it to stream live to twitch.tv
[04:17] <pixelkat> bbl, system finished installing
[04:18] <jeffrey_f> Off topic, but can someone answer a really quick PHP question on private?
[04:19] <rww> ask ##php?
[04:19] <ki7mt_> niceties, if you have something to say, say it in the channel, I really dont want to read nasty PM's form you.
[04:19] <jeffrey_f> rww: Gotcha
[04:19] <ki7mt_> s/from/form/g
[04:19] <bubbasaures> ki7mt_, report it to the #ubuntu-ops
[04:20] <rww> or don't, since we're #ubuntu ops, not PM ops
[04:20] <ki7mt_> I've never used that, hope I never have too.
[04:22] <bubbasaures> ki7mt_, gotta take out the trash sometimes
[04:23] <ki7mt_> lol .. that seems to take care of itself round here ..
[04:23] <NoobsFlyRNP> ki7mt, thanks for the adduser manpage. But the problem still exists.
[04:24] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, SO you've added the user, and all your after is adding them to the sudo group yes?
[04:25] <NoobsFlyRNP> No, I'm just trying to set/change the password of the user. Let me get your a screenshot.
[04:25] <ki7mt_> I dont need a screen shot
[04:27] <NoobsFlyRNP> It appears that I can't even set a new password while adding a new user to begin with: http://i.imgur.com/PDcWdPZ.jpg
[04:27] <bubbasaures> rww, Really that a new rule, has been the norm the 4 years I been here. ;)
[04:27] <NoobsFlyRNP> Also, the user I'm currently logged on to is added to sudo group.
[04:28] <rww> bubbasaures: Ops have never had the ability to stop problematic PMs and have never stepped in unless it's some sort of channelwide harassment by a troll.
[04:28] <rww> That's been the case for the 5 years I've been here ;)
[04:28] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, so this is on a server or something ?
[04:29] <NoobsFlyRNP> That is correct. (I have physical access to the server, btw.)
[04:29] <ki7mt_> via SSH I presume?
[04:29] <NoobsFlyRNP> Correct.
[04:29] <pixelkats> any ubuntu techs here?
[04:29] <pixelkats> i installed 12.04 over windows and now when i reboot
[04:29] <bubbasaures> rww, Ah, just when they are in the channel actually using it seemed appropriate, out side pm's I understand, but I have PM's off so wont mention.
[04:29] <pixelkats> windows says it needs to be repaired
[04:29] <IdleOne> bubbasaures: We can't stop PM abuse. If it becomes an issue where multiple known good helpers report an issue we might step in, but the PM abuse we can't really do much about
[04:29] <NoobsFlyRNP> I tried passing all the commands on the server too ki7mt.
[04:29] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, Try this: sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser
[04:30] <NoobsFlyRNP> Thanks. Wait.
[04:30] <bubbasaures> IdleOne, Thanks.
[04:30] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, sudo passwd testuser
[04:31] <quill-building> how can I remedy this? when I boot I get a black screen. all I did was change gpu driver
[04:31] <pixelkats> do i need to reinstall grub?
[04:31] <pixelkats> any takers?
[04:31] <NoobsFlyRNP> ki7mt, passwd: Permission denied
[04:31] <NoobsFlyRNP> Same error.
[04:32] <bubbasaures> pixelkats, Does it boot, it should?
[04:32] <NoobsFlyRNP> pixelkats, can you boot to Ubuntu, though?
[04:32] <pixelkats> i cant boot to ubuntu
[04:32] <pixelkats> it wont let me past windows repair screen
[04:32] <pixelkats> im on live dvd right now
[04:32] <bubbasaures> pixelkats, More than one HD perchance? was it W8 you installed over?
[04:32] <NoobsFlyRNP> You can try reinstalling GRUB, pixelkats.
[04:32] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, Is this on encrypted home dirst by any chance ?
[04:33] <pixelkats> i installed ubuntu over windows 8
[04:33] <NoobsFlyRNP> ki7mt, yes.
[04:33] <pixelkats> i have more than one hd, but my secondary hd is formatted as ext4
[04:33] <quill-building> how can I remove all additional drivers through the command line?
[04:33] <bubbasaures> !uefi | pixelkats might be something you should have known in general, UEFI
[04:34] <thomedy> hey i am trying to learn more about programming video...
[04:34] <thomedy> is there an ubuntu app
[04:34] <thomedy> that i can look at the hex behind a video
[04:34] <thomedy> there is apparently a moov atom and i want to know more about it
[04:34] <thomedy> im trying to avoid writing  a hex editor
[04:34] <thomedy> so i can do this quicker
[04:35] <bubbasaures> pixelkats, Can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin it.
[04:36] <pc_> how do i make the terminal window appear in the super menu when i enter "cmd" instead of "term"?
[04:36] <Seven_Six_Two> thomedy bless is a hex editor. also, it's more considerate on irc to not  use the enter key as punctuation, especially in a busy channel.
[04:36] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, I know what I would do if I have physical access to the server, but being remote, I dont think it's safe to do. Is this a hosted sever?
[04:36] <pixelkats> http://pastebin.com/eHEa4t4z
[04:37] <thomedy> i found it... sorry its a force of habit... i apologize... i found bless right before you said that... I realized that after i hit return way too often that should just be googling it
[04:37] <Seven_Six_Two> thomedy, no worries. I do it too.
[04:37] <pixelkats> i also get an error when i try to dban the HD
[04:37] <NoobsFlyRNP> ki7mt, oh, it runs in my basement.
[04:38] <thomedy> can i just say... and this is purely out of excitement... you know how none of the webcam's in ubuntu have a good resolution
[04:38] <pixelkats> bubbasaures: did you get that pastebin?
[04:38] <Seven_Six_Two> thomedy, mine is hd
[04:38] <pixelkats> my webcam has good resolution in ubuntu
[04:38] <thomedy> or at least as far as i have seen... i am in the middle of writing anti internet software and (by the way it is testing so well.) but i amg oing to do that too... it sounds awesome
[04:38] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, No gaurentee here, but I would try, as root: rm -rf /home/.ecryptfs, then again adduser --encrypt-home ... .. ..
[04:38] <Seven_Six_Two> 1920xwhatever]
[04:38] <bubbasaures> pixelkats, Yeah, how did you install ubuntu wubi sound familiar?
[04:38] <thomedy> really... i have a great resolution on my images but not on my webcam
[04:38] <pixelkats> i burned 12.04 to live dvd
[04:39] <pixelkats> booted it, clicked install
[04:39] <Finetundra> lets try again, does youtube-dl not work anymore?
[04:39] <jamie_> hey i have an odd question. I run multiple desktops and was trying to use KDE and was wondering if it has to have a specific x11 currently using lightdm
[04:39] <NoobsFlyRNP> ki7mt, tried that. No go.
[04:39] <pixelkats> i didnt have this problem first time i installed ubuntu over windows
[04:39] <bubbasaures> pixelkats, encrypted?
[04:39] <pixelkats> maybe
[04:39] <pixelkats> how do i check or unencrypt
[04:39] <Ben64> Finetundra: maybe not the one from the repo, update it
[04:39] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, Alternatively, check the permission are sudo chmod 755 /home/.ecryptfs
[04:39] <bubbasaures> pixelkats, I see no evidence of a ext4 partiton and a ntfs taking up half of sdb
[04:40] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, any dm will work. So will any desktop that I've tried.
[04:40] <thomedy> can i ask what webcam you are using and maybe there is a setting i can do to fix it
[04:40] <pixelkats> it shouldnt be
[04:40] <bubbasaures> err a tiny ntfs that is
[04:40] <pixelkats> that must be where windows is installed
[04:40] <pixelkats> i told ubuntu to replace windows tho
[04:40] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: when i go to use kde for some odd reason the screen goes black, and only on kde
[04:40] <ki7mt_> NoobsFlyRNP, If that don't fix it, I'm outta ideas for this one.
[04:40] <NoobsFlyRNP> Well, thank you so much for the help, ki7mt.
[04:41] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, both monitors? do you have a mouse cursor?
[04:41] <pixelkats> ill try disabling fastboot and all that from bios
[04:41] <pixelkats> brb
[04:41] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, if I'm slow to react, it's because it's friday night, nudge nudge, wink wink, and I'm watching star trek.
[04:42] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: okay i may have miss worded, I have gnome3, ubuntu default, and cinnamon
[04:42] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, which gives you the black screen? I have those too. I'm using cinnamon now.
[04:43] <bubbasaures> we are at warp ten now captain
[04:43] <jamie_> the forth one i just added kde, from kubuntu
[04:43] <quillford> can anyone gelp
[04:43] <rqou> hi, not sure of the best place to ask this, but I'm having trouble setting up UEFI secure boot using my own PK/KEK/db keys. KeyTool gives "Failed to update variable: (26) Security Violation" and efi-updatevar gives "Cannot write to PK, wrong filesystem permissions." System is definitely in setup mode
[04:43] <quillford> can anyone help?
[04:43] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, did you add kde-full package?
[04:43] <bubbasaures> quillford, Probably gotta know the issues
[04:43] <quillford> how can I remedy this? when I boot I get a black screen. all I did was change gpu driver
[04:44] <quillford> bubbasaures ^
[04:44] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: i added the desktop environment via terminal
[04:44] <rqou> the only reference to these errors on google seems to be http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/uefi-secure-boot/, but there is no clear solution there
[04:44] <bubbasaures> !nomodeset | quillford get in a fix it
[04:44] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, do gnome3 and cinnamon work fine?
[04:44] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: yep im in gnome3 now
[04:44] <bubbasaures> Seven_Six_Two, 14.10 it is in the repos
[04:44] <rqou> i tried compiling the latest efitools git, didn't help
[04:44] <quillford> bubbasaures: I've tried that
[04:45] <bubbasaures> Seven_Six_Two, sorry, missed that was a question.
[04:45] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, what video card?
[04:45] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: one sec
[04:46] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: NVS 3100M/PCIe/SSE2
[04:46] <bubbasaures> quillford, There is a safex boot in recovery you might try that, details are they key here for any help, drivers, hardware and what you did if you can, to the channel not me.
[04:47] <quillford> is there any way to remove additional drivers installed through the root shell from recovery?
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, is it a laptop? Does it also have integrated intel video?
[04:47] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, ok, that's a special problem.
[04:47] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: should be more than enough to run that with ease
[04:47] <bubbasaures> quillford, Try a TTY after a little wait on the boot.
[04:47] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: what do you mean
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, oh wait nm.
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, do you have mouse cursor in kde?
[04:48] <quillford> bubbasaures: tty?
[04:48] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: the screen is kinda off
[04:48] <bubbasaures> quillford, ctrl-alt-1 1-6 are a terminal
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, can you switch to a tty?
[04:49] <bubbasaures> quillford, sorry ctrl-alt-f1  my bad
[04:49] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: what
[04:49] <quillford> bubbasaures: so on the black screen or root shell?
[04:50] <Seven_Six_Two> lol. I just realized that bubbasaures and I did the same thing. try ctrl+alt+F1
[04:50] <bubbasaures> quillford, wait a minute on the black screen, you are probably up and running, just no graphics
[04:50] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, that should get you to a login screen, from where you might see a log.
[04:51] <jamie_> I have logged in from ubuntu 14.10 lightdm
[04:51] <bubbasaures> quillford, for the record the root shell is rarely used, never in a situation like this really.
[04:51] <quillford> bubbasaures: it worked. how do I get the GUI back?
[04:52] <bubbasaures> quillford, You wanted a terminal to remove drivers.
[04:52] <quillford> bubbasaures: how do I remove them?
[04:52] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, so then you get a black screen? try switching to another vtty using ctrl + alt + F1
[04:52] <bubbasaures> quillford, Ah, other help needed, I was leading you to the trough so to speak. ;)
[04:52] <quillford> bubbasaures: got it. thanls
[04:53] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, that should give you a non-graphical login screen. login from there if you can
[04:53] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: with what command to follow, the only one i can think of to try is startx
[04:53] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, do you know how to use cat and less?
[04:54] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: not really, only really used to using it from backtrack
[04:54] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, try      cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[04:54] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, scroll down to bottom, and look for driver issue.
[04:55] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: can i by anychance check the syslog
[04:55] <protopopulus> Amigos, how to make an kanji/katakana/hiragana keyboard input like in google translate?
[04:55] <bubbasaures> protopopulus, ubuntu related how?
[04:57] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, you can, but your problem is more likely not a kernel issue. Xorg log will more likely have your error, since screen is turning off for only kde
[04:57] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, sorry. I misread your msg
[04:58] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: okay be right back ill try that and see
[04:58] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, but still, check xorg log first. then all other logs that you might want to look at.
[04:59] <jamie_> okay one sec
[05:01] <thomedy> what is that alternative to ffmpeg
[05:02] <ki7mt_> avconv
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> thomedy, mencoder and avconv
[05:04] <thomedy> here is what i need... and maybe i should be using ffmpeg i just dont have much experience with it.... convert mp4 to mov and the equivalent to test other movie formats
[05:04] <thomedy> for the moov atom
[05:05] <pixelkats> ok
[05:05] <pixelkats> fixed the problem
[05:05] <pixelkats> btw uefi was not enabled on my machine
[05:05] <pixelkats> the small ntfs partition on secondary HD was causing the problem
[05:05] <jamie_> Even that didnt work
[05:06] <pixelkats> so i deleted that and reinstalled 12.04
[05:06] <pixelkats> everything working well so far
[05:06] <jamie_> It was still just black and it is turned off to by the way
[05:06] <ki7mt_> thomedy, if you can ffmpeg makes it pretty easy: ffmpeg -i file-1.mp4 -acodec copy -vcodec copy -f mov file-2.mov
[05:06] <thomedy> i should probably man that to see what s going on with that command line
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> thomedy, getting familiar with the terminal is a good investment.
[05:07] <quillford> is there a way to revert back to stock drivers from the terminal?
[05:08] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: still aint working at all
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> quillford, have you done something that you regret? Can you please provide more info?
[05:08] <jamie_> even when using the ctrl-alt-f1
[05:09] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, nothing happens when you do control alt f1?
[05:09] <jamie_> nope
[05:09] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: the screen is actually off
[05:09] <quillford> Seven_Six_Two: indeed. I replaced the stock drivers with proprietary amd/ati ones
[05:09] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, interesting. is your harddrive running? do you have another computer from which you can ssh in?
[05:10] <thomedy> well im fairly familiar with terminal
[05:10] <thomedy> i just dont know much about ffmpeg
[05:10] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: no, and yes my hardware is running.... wait.... i got a error reading from discriptor again... i may need to change my driver or update it..... u
[05:11] <thomedy> i have even written my own bin/bash and ran it out as a command
[05:11] <thomedy> but not familiar withffmpeg
[05:11] <pixelkats> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:11] <pixelkats> what do!?
[05:11] <Ben64> pixelkats: what are you trying to do
[05:11] <pixelkats> just trying to mount my secondary hd
[05:11] <Ben64> pixelkats: yes that much i can tell, give me more information
[05:11] <pixelkats> i really dont want to lose all my data
[05:11] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, yeah, likely driver or power management, but hard to tell. ok, can you log in to kde, then do what you have to do to log in to cinnamon or gnome, and pastebin your previous xorg log file to pastebin? It will be /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old or something similar. I'm using mint right now, so i don't know if my logs are different than stock ubuntu. anyone?
[05:12] <pixelkats> im just trying to access HD
[05:12] <Ben64> pixelkats: thats the same information... i need more
[05:12] <pixelkats> didnt have this problem before installing windows
[05:12] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: well the nvida 311 bug still exist i thing with the kernal release
[05:12] <pixelkats> then when i installed ubuntu windows overtook the boot
[05:12] <pixelkats> and said it needed repairing
[05:12] <pixelkats> so, i deleted the ntfs partition on my secondary hd
[05:12] <pixelkats> and now ubuntu boots
[05:12] <pixelkats> but now i cant access hd
[05:12] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, I don't know that bug, although gnome3 should be using the same driver as kde.
[05:13] <pixelkats> i need to access my files
[05:13] <Ben64> pixelkats: less <enter> key please, and please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[05:13] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: all of it should be..... im using the same x11
[05:13] <uhhimhere> http://cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html
[05:13] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, yeah, please pastebin your previous xorg log
[05:13] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: one sec
[05:13] <rammaxee> pixelkats: if you deleted it. Its gone
[05:14] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, it won't be Xorg.0.log if you're currently successfully logged in.
[05:14] <pixelkats> ben64: http://pastebin.com/BQnVPrWM
[05:14] <Ben64> pixelkats: yep, looks like sdb is deleted
[05:15] <pixelkats> w.t.f.
[05:15] <pixelkats> sorry
[05:15] <jamie_> i cant get to it when logged into kde at all ctrl-alt-f1 isnt working
[05:15] <pixelkats> but seriously why
[05:15] <Ben64> pixelkats: probably because you deleted it... you can try testdisk suite to recover stuff
[05:15] <pixelkats> i didnt tell wubi to delete the whole HD, just the ntfs partition that was like 700mb
[05:15] <pixelkats> how do i use testdisk
[05:15] <Ben64> !recover | pixelkats
[05:16] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: how exactaly do i get int then
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, you said gnome3 works? use that to log in, and open a terminal. do    ls -l /var/log
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, there will be one or more that start with Xorg.0
[05:17] <rammaxee> pixelkats: open drive utility and see if the partition you have files on is their.
[05:17] <pixelkats> drive utility?
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, sudo apt-get install pastebinip
[05:18] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765523/
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:18] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: what is that
[05:19] <ki7mt_> If the file system has been removed, it will not be easy to recover data, but whatever you do, don't write anything else to the drive.
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, I don't know. It depends on when you logged in to kde last. There's only 2 from today, do probably the .old one
[05:20] <bubbasaures> pixelkats, Open gparted on the live dvd, do you see any partitions?
[05:20] <bubbasaures> on either HD
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, the Xorg.0.log is always the current session. If  you're in kde in a virtual terminal, it's that one. If you tried kde, and are now in something else, it's the next oldest, which is Xorg.0.log.old
[05:20] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: cna you rewind for a sec, for one- have never successfully logged into kde and two- what were you saying about sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:21] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, the sudo command will install pastebinit, which allows easier pasting from terminal
[05:21] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: I prefer the site.... I dont have a very large hd
[05:22] <zacwalls1> my disk drive wont recognize the dvd-r in there. I have lost all faith. Anyone have a suggestion?
[05:22] <rammaxee> pixelkats: disk utility
[05:22] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, even logging in to kde and not getting a desktop will create an xorg log file, and the logs will rotate with every login.
[05:22] <pixelkats> disk utility says it is not partitioned
[05:22] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: to get out had to restart the computer completely
[05:22] <Seven_Six_Two> jamie_, it's a console prog, and won't take much space, but it's your choice.
[05:23] <pixelkats> how do i hide people entering and leaving channel?
[05:23] <rammaxee> pixelkats: then the files are probably gone
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> pixelkats, then there is no partition,and no data outside of specialized recovery
[05:23] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: only have 75gb and that is a constant uphill battle for space
[05:23] <pixelkats> gah!
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> pixelkats, it's based on your client
[05:23] <pixelkats> oh well, time to reformay
[05:23] <pixelkats> reformat
[05:23] <Ben64> pixelkats: or you can recover like i said
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> pixelkats, if it's important data, you can likelly recover.
[05:24] <pixelkats> recovery seems hard
[05:24] <rammaxee> pixelkats: hopefully you backed up important stuff offline
[05:24] <Seven_Six_Two> pixelkats, the longer you wait, and the more you do, the less likely it will be that you get all of your data.
[05:24] <Ben64> pixelkats: depends how much you want the data
[05:24] <pixelkats> its ok, there wasnt anything i cant get back i dont think
[05:25] <Tian> hey guys
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> that's good, because professional recovery usually costs in the thousands of dollars.
[05:25] <Tian> is it safe to say Wine is an extention on ubuntu
[05:25] <cfhowlett> Tian, nope
[05:25] <Tian> that allows you to install any windows application?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> Tian, SOME windows apps to SOME extent
[05:26] <bubbasaures> Tian, any not even close
[05:26] <Tian> oh
[05:26] <pixelkats> disk utility says my 750gb is ext4
[05:26] <NikolaiToryzin> It can run a lot of simpler stuff
[05:26] <jamie_> TiamL up to about xp and maybe recent with play on linux
[05:26] <pixelkats> but not partitioned
[05:26] <jamie_> Tiam: ^
[05:26] <NikolaiToryzin> But overall wine is a great utility for a lot of simple use cases
[05:26] <Seven_Six_Two> Tian, Wine is a windows application layer of sorts. Provides windows framework witout actual OS. Which is why (W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator
[05:27] <quillford> recursive like gnu?
[05:27] <rammaxee> Some one tell pixelkats How to screen shot disk utility and paste it.
[05:27] <NikolaiToryzin> Nope
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> Wine runs a lot of current stuff too, not just simple stuff.
[05:28] <NikolaiToryzin> quillford: stuff like GNU and XNU are recursive acronyms, meaning the first letter is the word itself
[05:28] <DF3D2> can someone tell me if the Marvell 88SE91XX sata3 controller is supported ?
[05:28] <NikolaiToryzin> GNU means GNU Not Unix and so on, and XNU means the same
[05:28] <pixelkats> http://i.imgur.com/pXahneo.jpg
[05:28] <rammaxee> pixelkats: You don't have no other partitions like swap or empty space.
[05:28] <ki7mt_> It runs allot of complex software, especially useful for testing cross compiler builds.
[05:29] <pixelkats> check SS
[05:29] <kktex> hi all
[05:29] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, not with certainty, but I would guess yes, based on previous experience with marvell
[05:29] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: Im probably just gonna remove it, I dont actually need it, I just like testing all of the different desktop environments
[05:30] <rammaxee> pixelkats: what if you select mount volume
[05:30] <DF3D2> Seven_Six_Two: was looking at buying this to add to my ubuntu server http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Star-SATA6-2-Port-SATA-III-6Gb-s-PCI-Express-x1-Controller-Card-Retail-Box-/221175567835?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337f1755db
[05:30] <DF3D2> I believe it has that marvell chip
[05:30] <NikolaiToryzin> quillford: actually I'm being dumb, wine is one
[05:30] <nmvictor> hi guys, what package mounts drives in nautilus? i am running
[05:30] <nmvictor> nautilus in my mac but the drives are not shown on the status. Also, what
[05:30] <nmvictor> happened to Trash folder in nautilus? just cant get in
[05:30] <jamie_> Seven_Six_Two: or ill just tey to get some help later... when its a little less busy
[05:30] <pixelkats> rammaxee says filesystem driver not installed
[05:31] <pixelkats> want SS?
[05:31] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, that chipset requires a config file modification, but is supported. google for that chipset with "linux"
[05:31] <DF3D2> Seven_Six_Two: I did but I just found some bug reports
[05:31] <rammaxee> pixelkats: it was ntfs before ext4.
[05:32] <pixelkats> i havent changed anything
[05:32] <pixelkats> so, can i just change it back to ntfs and get my stuff back?
[05:33] <DF3D2> Seven_Six_Two: im already using adaptec jbod cards to add some extra hdds. I have 6x3tb already and dont want to buy that if it will fight with the adaptec card somehow. I know they have a bios they use
[05:34] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, this link indicates fix:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvell_Technology_Group_chipsets#88SE91xx_chipsets_Linux_support
[05:34] <Ben64> pixelkats: did you have anything in the ntfs partition you deleted?
[05:34] <pixelkats> nope
[05:34] <Ben64> pixelkats: then how would that help?
[05:34] <pixelkats> it was put there unwillingly by windows
[05:34] <pixelkats> it was something like 700mb
[05:34] <pixelkats> or less
[05:34] <pixelkats> but it kept ubuntu from booting
[05:35] <DF3D2> Seven_Six_Two: hmm that looks annoying though I'd have to do that each time, or write a script to do it on reboot?
[05:36] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, not sure
[05:37] <kktex> I'm planning to use my old hard drive with some bad blocks for not-important-files storage. Should I handle those bad blocks with some specific procedure/utility or simply create an extended partition with a ext4 logical partition inside? (gparted/ext4/OS will manage those bad blocks for me during partitioning?)
[05:37] <pixelkats> oh welll, ill just reformat the drive
[05:37] <rammaxee> pixelkats: it will take long time to recover data. Software has to scan the whole drive for file headers. That's only if you don't do a deep format.
[05:38] <rammaxee> pixelkats: it could scan for a day.
[05:39] <bubbasaures> kktex, your risking just loosing what is put on it really.
[05:40] <rammaxee> pixelkats: then you have to manually filter out garbage files. Which could number in hundreds of thousands. Especially if the drive had an operating system on it.
[05:40] <kktex> bubbasaures not a problem, some trash video, some test ISO files....
[05:41] <bubbasaures> kktex, This an learning exercise than?
[05:41] <DF3D2> Seven_Six_Two: heh will i can get two "unbranded" with that marvell chip in it for $16 might as well give it a shot
[05:41] <rammaxee> That's why bubbasaures said it costs thousands to recover data. pixelkats . It's very time consuming.
[05:41] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, I think it's unlikely that you won't be able to get it working, with some help
[05:41] <bubbasaures> never said that ;)
[05:42] <Seven_Six_Two> that was me.
[05:42] <DF3D2> Seven_Six_Two: yeah I just dont know how it works, is it like my adaptec jbod/raid cards where they insert a system bios before the mobo bios? or what
[05:42] <Seven_Six_Two> it's also a field with specialized software, and contracts that bill you no matter what is recovered.
[05:42] <kktex> bubbasaures also, just more storage where move big file instead wasting I/O cycles on my brand new hard drive.....
[05:43] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, yeah, something like that.
[05:43] <BigBawb> hi there, Im dual booting to windows and ubuntu and it seems to have messed with my system time.
[05:43] <DF3D2> im just scared it wont all play nice lol
[05:43] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, that will work like any OS though. Its the interaction bit later that might take some tweaking
[05:43] <BigBawb> Not so big of an issue to change it back. But when I generate a keystore to sign my android applications it says it "isn't yet valid"
[05:43] <bubbasaures> kktex, Never tried, never had a HD fail really, so not sure.
[05:44] <Seven_Six_Two> DF3D2, then don't try to save a few dollars. Spend a few more that guarantees linux support.
[05:44] <Seven_Six_Two> Paying as little as possible will always have a drawback.
[05:45] <bubbasaures> BigBawb, IN windows though right?
[05:45] <rammaxee> BigBawb: usually ubuntu uses local time. You may of told it to use utc time. Or maybe it's the other way around. Your system was using utc time and ubuntu changed it to local time.
[05:45] <Ben64> i think ubuntu uses utc by default
[05:45] <BigBawb> bubbasaures: Yes
[05:45] <BigBawb> switching back to windows
[05:45] <BigBawb> Ive read about this problem before
[05:45] <bubbasaures> BigBawb, Ubuntu should not have any to do with this is all.
[05:45] <BigBawb> saying Ubuntu like uses GMT and adjusts idk it wasn't so bad
[05:46] <DF3D2> Seven_Six_Two: yeah googling makes it seem kind of like a piece of crap chip lol
[05:46] <kktex> bubbasaures point is... ext4 is smart enough to handle those bad blocks automatically or should I isolate them in a separate partition?
[05:46] <DF3D2> lots of bugs
[05:46] <bubbasaures> hadware or the MS OS
[05:46] <rammaxee> BigBawb: it's a real issue and needs fixing. Its actually changing the time in UEFI
[05:47] <BigBawb> rammaxee: I tried changing my time back but it still says my keystore "Isn't yet valid"
[05:47] <bubbasaures> kktex, No idea I would not bother myself.
[05:47] <BigBawb> Like it will be in the future. I've read around and said this has to do with the system time. Realizing that I had been dual booting I looked (sure enough it was off ) I tried to change the time, remake the keystore. Still ot right
[05:47] <rammaxee> BigBawb: does your system use bios or EFI
[05:48] <kktex> bubbasaures ok, I'll run some test...no files on it no risk...
[05:49] <dopie> hey guys
[05:49] <Seven_Six_Two> kktex, I would only use that drive for transient data, like tmp or swap or downloads or whatnot
[05:49] <dopie> im getting this error in my sublime text was wondering if yu guys can help me out with it
[05:49] <dopie> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1f249eeb41dc233f69ef
[05:49] <rammaxee> BigBawb: EFI time is changed whenever
[05:50] <BigBawb> rammaxee: UEFI
[05:51] <kktex> SEven_Six_Two I will use it only for files storage, video, ISO and other things that if I loose it I will not cry....
[05:52] <Seven_Six_Two> kktex, then I wouldn't worry about it too much, just monitor it for acoustic changes, heat, dmesg output
[05:52] <rammaxee> BigBawb: Yes dual boot systems cause this.
[05:53] <nmvictor> any reason why my nautilus wont show drives in the side bar?
[05:53] <BigBawb> Would I have to boot to my bios and change the time there?
[05:53] <ki7mt_> dopie, it's not a very complicated error, the file it's looking for, whatever ( it is ), is not finding the file, thus your getting the not found error.
[05:53] <bubbasaures> nmvictor, Are any in fstab?
[05:53] <rammaxee> BigBawb: Did you tell ubuntu to use utc time
[05:54] <Seven_Six_Two> kktex, just format it as usual. does it have SMART?
[05:54] <BigBawb> rammaxee: D'= I did not
[05:54] <kktex> SEven_Six_Two I'm thinking about create [ Extended [ Logical ext4] ] on that drive,  to not bother primary boot partition on my OS hard drive, that's right? (yep SMART is on board and drive)
[05:54] <BigBawb> would that solve the issue if I booted back to windows
[05:54] <bubbasaures> nmvictor, Okay are any set to be mounted on booting automatically?
[05:55] <BigBawb> because the issue seems to be deeper than just cosmetic
[05:56] <rammaxee> BigBawb: You can change it in system efi, it's bios replacment. But every time you boot Windows it will change it again. Bios didn't allow Windows to change system time.
[05:56] <nmvictor> bubbasaures:no, i dont have fstab in my etc
[05:56] <Seven_Six_Two> kktex, not sure about what partitions you'll need, depends on uefi or bios. You don't have to have a boot partition normally, it's just a precaution if you remount boot write only, so likely doesn't matter to you. Unless you're a G-man.
[05:56] <rammaxee> BigBawb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93638/local-time-with-dual-boot
[05:56] <bubbasaures> nmvictor, you have to have fstab to boot the OS.
[05:57] <bubbasaures> well mount the partitions anyway
[05:57] <cyberfab007> hey fellas, listen I am having issues running a bash cmd from my php script , I have narrowed it down to a permissions issue in my ubunut server,
[05:57] <cyberfab007> how do I add permissions to www-data user to run a ruby command ?\
[05:57] <nmvictor> ooh, actually am on mac, nautilus is running on my mac, which is
[05:57] <nmvictor> still unix, but for some reason, no fstab.
[05:57] <rammaxee> BigBawb: the time being off will also mess up updates.
[05:58] <nmvictor> bubbasaures:^
[05:58] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, change the owner of the script to www-data
[05:58] <kktex> Seven_Six_Two :) ok. (bios by now)
[05:58] <bubbasaures> nmvictor, What is the operating system?
[05:58] <cyberfab007> can I add the scirpt to the group www-data
[05:58] <pc_> how do i assign alt+enter to show super menu?
[05:59] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, not necessarily, although I'm not sure of the details,
[05:59] <nmvictor> bubbasaures:mac 10.9
[05:59] <rammaxee> pc_: Just hold the Windows key
[05:59] <bubbasaures> nmvictor, not supported ever
[05:59] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, you can definitely try. do you know the command?
[05:59] <bubbasaures> you wanna dual boot your supported nmvictor
[05:59] <cyberfab007> no I am looking it up
[06:00] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, sudo chown script-owner.www-data /path/to/script
[06:01] <nmvictor> bubbasaures:ooh, ok. so have to live with nautilus in my mac with
[06:01] <nmvictor> no side bar. i guess thats what i get for working with commercial os. Thanks anyways
[06:01] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, sudo chown cyberfab007.www-data ./mysuperruby.rb
[06:01] <rammaxee> pc_: isn't using one key. The Windows key good enough.
[06:02] <rammaxee> nmvictor: You can install KDE in osx.
[06:03] <cyberfab007> Seven_Six_Two,  ruby scirpts do not have direct paths
[06:03] <Ben64> nmvictor: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[06:04] <pc_> rammaxee: no it's not because i want it to be like on my mac
[06:04] <pixelkats> flip it, im upgrading to 14.04
[06:04] <pixelkats> because why not
[06:04] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, I'll take your word for it
[06:04] <clockwork_> Hello
[06:04] <pixelkats> gnome-disks is better in 14.04
[06:04] <kktex> I go, thanks, bye
[06:04] <Ben64> pixelkats: good choice. 14.04 is the latest LTS, supported until 2019
[06:05] <clockwork_> Could someone direct me in capturing audio directly from my soundcard?
[06:05] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, wait, how can a file not have a path?
[06:05] <rammaxee> pixelkats: download the 14.04.1 iso to upgrade.
[06:05] <pixelkats> hopefully some programs that i use from 12.04 will work as well on 14.04
[06:05] <pixelkats> im already upgrading via update manager
[06:05] <cyberfab007> well to execute the scirpt in the command shell i use
[06:05] <cyberfab007> script input
[06:06] <rammaxee> pixelkats: Okay. Just takes longer.
[06:06] <cyberfab007> and it executes,
[06:06] <pixelkats> oh
[06:06] <pixelkats> ok thats fine
[06:07] <Seven_Six_Two> cyberfab007, you can put that in a file and run it! http://ruby.about.com/od/tutorials/a/commandline_2.htm
[06:08] <lava333> Guess what house number captcha I just on webchat?
[06:08] <lava333> 404
[06:08] <lava333> lol!
[06:08] <clockwork_> lol
[06:09] <rammaxee> lava333: so it said You are error
[06:09] <lava333> No, I'm not found :-)
[06:09] <lava333> That's also my phone extension at work
[06:09] <clockwork_> Not only that, neither is your compute
[06:09] <lava333> HTTP error 404: Not found
[06:09] <clockwork_> computer*
[06:10] <lava333> Does anyone here have access to an ubuntu mirror? I need someone to do a "du --max-depth 1 -h ...../pool" - on the pool directory, I need to know how big each of main, multiverse, restricted and universe is.... pleeeease
[06:10] <clockwork_> You're trying to find the size of... *gulp* multiple repositories? (I have no idea where to begin)
[06:11] <clockwork_> I'm just trying to foward my audio output to my input so I can then foward it to my phone
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> clockwork_: low tech, just run 3.5mm out to in
[06:13] <lava333> I started mirroring last night... I'm up to 337G.... I want to know if I've passed the halfway mark yet
[06:13] <lava333> Knowing the continuing bandwidth requirements to keep a mirror up-to-date would also be immensely cool, of course.......
[06:13] <clockwork_> the 3.5mm is annoying, my ports are so low grade that I can hear the grainyness of the mic input
[06:14] <thomedy> you know what i just realized
[06:14] <lava333> 337G is mainly on the main tree
[06:14] <clockwork_> i've been dealing with it and sucking it up for three weeks but I can't stand it anymore
[06:14] <aeon-ltd> clockwork_: i know audacity can handle audio routing internally, though i'm not sure if it can do system wide
[06:14] <lava333> I have a feeling universe is even bigger
[06:14] <thomedy> i was about to write code to move the moov atom on any video to the front of the video for quickstart play
[06:14] <thomedy> in my software
[06:14] <lava333> I only have 700G available....
[06:14] <Ben64> lava333: this is probably not the channel you want, this is for ubuntu support
[06:15] <thomedy> sorry im hitting return alot again.... But i realized i can probably run a system call on a linux command and then move the moov atom or the ftyp with a command like ffmpeg or something like that in a much easier way
[06:15] <rww> lava333: universe is a lot bigger than main.
[06:15] <rww> lava333: I don't have numbers, but yeah.
[06:15] <thomedy> thats way faster and easier... google time
[06:17] <lava333> Sadly, I can't seem to find much info on the web.... :-( I'm definitely blogging about- / publishing my experience setting up a mirror
[06:18] <rww> lava333: You probably want #ubuntu-mirrors if you want more info on mirroring from IRC. It's a lot smaller than here though, so be prepared to ask, leave IRC open, and get an answer later (potentially a lot later, since Canonical is often on European time and it's now the weekend)
[06:19] <lava333> Yup, 8am to be exact... I'm sure lots of people work on Saturdays :-) Thanks
[06:22] <ki7mt_> lava333, sri, I been away fer a bit, what's question about mirrors?
[06:25] <lava333> ki7mt_: I've asked in ubuntu-mirrors too... I want to know if the 650GB figure is accurate for the size of a mirror.... I started last night and I'm up to 334G, just want to know how far I am. Also, I'd love to find graphs for bandwidth requirements of keeping up-to-date sans downloads.
[06:26] <ki7mt_> lava333, Ahh ok .. I can aswer the quesiton about their mirror, but  mine for 14.04 i386 and amd64 is just over 100GB.
[06:26] <ki7mt_> s/can't/can/g
[06:27] <lava333> ki7mt_: surely that's only the pool/main?
[06:27] <ki7mt_> lava333, that's for everything, main, Uni, Muti-Uni, etc etc
[06:29] <lava333> ki7mt_ Run a du --max-depth 1 -h ....../ubuntu/pool ?
[06:30] <zacwalls> how can i send a file via terminal over wireless network
[06:31] <Ben64> zacwalls: send to what?
[06:31] <zacwalls> Another system
[06:31] <ki7mt_> lava333, At the moment, no I cannot, as I'm not on the right LAN.
[06:31] <lava333> zacwalls: what terminal? text file? copy and paste :-)
[06:31] <Ben64> zacwalls: thats not helpful
[06:31] <zacwalls> I mean iso file
[06:31] <zacwalls> like an image
[06:32] <lava333> zacwalls: scp / winscp
[06:32] <zacwalls> Is that the command?
[06:32] <lava333> zacwalls: in the old days we used Xmodem protocol. If you want to get really geeky, you can probably still use it today, LOL :-)
[06:32] <zacwalls> really
[06:33] <zacwalls> Now everything is tcp /ip
[06:33] <ki7mt_> lava333, If your downloading sources also, I could easily see a full i386 / amd64 mirror being over 600GB
[06:33] <lava333> zacwalls: no, don't. What terminal are you using? Its easier to use scp. If you had to ssh <IP_ADDRESS> you can just as well scp my-local-file.iso <IP_ADDRESS>:/my/remote/path
[06:33] <Ben64> zacwalls: again, send to what
[06:34] <zacwalls> Another pc running win 7
[06:34] <lava333> zacwalls: or if you're on windows, use winscp, bitvise tunnelier, or filezilla scp
[06:34] <lava333> zacwalls: from windows to windows?
[06:34] <zacwalls> to
[06:34] <lava333> zacwalls: or windows to ubuntu?
[06:34] <lava333> zacwalls: download winscp or bitvise... you'll like it
[06:34] <zacwalls> ubuntu to win
[06:34] <Ben64> from the windows computer you can use winscp, from linux you could use samba, but you'd have to have file sharing set up
[06:35] <Ben64> and you'll need openssh-server on ubuntu in order to connect with winscp
[06:35] <zacwalls> How can i do that
[06:35] <lava333> zacwalls: yes. sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:36] <zacwalls> Thats easy enough
[06:36] <zacwalls> brb
[06:37] <joe___> hey guys, I had disabled Intel rapid storage tech, fastboot and UEFI in my laptop before installing ubuntu. Now I've Ubuntu Running properly on lappy. So Should I enable these to improve performance?
[06:37] <eaxxae> what is the best source for books online, can be any protocol. torrent, irc, https, http, ftp, etc... [please resist urge to flame]
[06:37] <eaxxae> what is the best source for books online, can be any protocol. torrent, irc, https, http, ftp, etc... [please resist urge to flame]
[06:37] <eaxxae> - one of those.. ugh.
[06:38] <clumsy_bot> eaxxae: Gutenberg?
[06:38] <Ben64> eaxxae: not on topic here
[06:38] <eaxxae> clumsy_bot: Project Gutenberg, love it .. yes.
[06:38] <zacwalls> Done
[06:38] <zacwalls> now what?
[06:39] <eaxxae> Ben64: any suggestions on where it might be 'on topic'
[06:39] <lava333> zacwalls: Or if you want to get really fancy, use SAMBA. apt-get install samba. Then you can just use windows filesharing.... but then you need to set passwords on Windows, and you need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and service samba restart. Or you can mount your windows share on ubuntu: mount //windows-pc/MYSHARE /media/windows7 -o username=MYWINDOWSUSERNAME and then access it like its a directory on ubuntu
[06:39] <clumsy_bot> Pretty sure there should be an ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[06:39] <bubbasaures> zacwalls, If you're addressing someone use their nick
[06:39] <joe___> hey guys, I had disabled Intel rapid storage tech, fastboot and UEFI in my laptop before installing ubuntu. Now I've Ubuntu Running properly on lappy. So Should I enable these to improve performance?
[06:39] <Ben64> there is indeed #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <undecim> joe___, I don't think fastboot or UEFI will increase performance
[06:39] <zacwalls> Okay
[06:39] <bubbasaures> !patience | joe___
[06:39] <ki7mt_> real fancy would be be to use sshfs :-)
[06:40] <undecim> joe___, Maybe Intel's think might, but IDK anything about it
[06:40] <zacwalls> lava333: lets try and stick with ssh
[06:40] <joe___> ok
[06:40] <undecim> think*
[06:40] <Ben64> zacwalls: now you can browse your system using winscp from windows, all you need is your ip, user name, and password
[06:40] <undecim> thing**
[06:40] <gartral> hey all, I have a laptop with a wacom tablet intergrated into the display (HP Elitebook 2730p) and since upgrading to 14.10 from 14.04 the tablet isn't detected... any ideas?
[06:40] <eaxxae> clumsy_bot: gratzi, gracias, thank you..
[06:40] <bubbasaures> joe___, Channel likes ten min intervals. ;)
[06:40] <zacwalls> And i need to set that up using ssh?
[06:41] <Ben64> zacwalls: you already have ssh
[06:41] <eaxxae> gartral: probably a change in the packages that deal with it, you should see if it's detected at all and move on from there.. lspci
[06:41] <zacwalls> Do i need to set a password?
[06:41] <lava333> joe___ - it won't do much... fastboot just makes your PC not search for CD's, USB, etc... so maybe your pc will boot 1 second faster. Whoop.
[06:41] <zacwalls> Nvm
[06:42] <zacwalls> what do i need on win?
[06:42] <undecim> zacwalls, winscp or Filezilla
[06:42] <eaxxae> gartral: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[06:42] <gartral> eaxxae: it isn't detected at all
[06:42] <zacwalls> okay brb
[06:42] <clumsy_bot> Is there documentation for Startup Disk Creator? As in, what it does in the backend?
[06:42] <eaxxae> gartral: it's an integrated device, to a display... does it require a USB cable go from the display to the tower .. if so, have you tried a different usb port and or rebooted ?
[06:43] <clumsy_bot> I've always wondered how Startup Disk Creator creates LiveUSBs that still allow remaining space to be used in other OSs (e.g Windows 7)
[06:43] <eaxxae> nevermind
[06:43] <eaxxae> it's a laptop
[06:43] <gartral> eaxxae: no, it's intergrated internally, the Elitebook 2730p is a laptop/portable workstation
[06:43] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, man usb-creator-gtk
[06:44] <undecim> gartral, Can you put the output of "lshw" into paste.ubuntu.org? It would tell us if its detected at all, and how it is connected
[06:44] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: Very basic man page, just covers normal usage.
[06:44] <gartral> undecim: sure, one moment
[06:45] <undecim> gartral, Actually, "sudo lshw"
[06:45] <undecim> more "rootsy" than normal lshq
[06:45] <undecim> lshw*
[06:45] <gartral> undecim: already knew to add sudo
[06:46] <bubbasaures> clumsy_bot, You would have to do some work to get any second partition on a usb seen by windows.
[06:46] <gartral> undecim: hold, installing pastebinit
[06:46] <undecim> Artemis3, Well, I can't really assume anyone's knowledge level until they indicate it
[06:46] <bubbasaures> not sure what you mean
[06:46] <clumsy_bot> bubbasaures: Yea, I've never been able to get that to work. Startup Disk Creator with persistence seems to be able to allow everything on just one partition though.
[06:47] <clumsy_bot> bubbasaures: It was basically able to create 1 partition with Live + Persistence + Free space for use in Windows
[06:47] <bubbasaures> clumsy_bot, Yes, casper-rw is the persistent, can be just a partition as well.
[06:47] <gartral> undecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765791/
[06:47] <zacwalls> Copying files.....
[06:48] <clumsy_bot> bubbasaures: I previously used dd to create LiveUSB on other distros cause they don't have Startup Disk Creator, so documentation on how SDC creates LiveUSB would be nice...
[06:48] <bubbasaures> clumsy_bot, I think you mean you have a save option, not a free space in windows, it is a free space anywhere.
[06:48] <clumsy_bot> bubbasaures: dd just left with a bootable USB but no way to utilize remaining space.
[06:49] <bubbasaures> clumsy_bot, I think what you want is to understand casper-rw
[06:49] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, eh?   I use the extra space on USB all the time
[06:49] <undecim> gartral, I dont see anything that looks like a wacom
[06:50] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, on live boot: save files to /etc/cdrom/
[06:50] <gartral> undecim: it's deffinately part of the hardware, it worked in 14.04, but since the jump, it's been MIA
[06:50] <undecim> gartral, Any info on how it was set up before? Did you have to install anything?
[06:50] <undecim> gartral, Or did it work out of the box?
[06:51] <clumsy_bot> Let me grab a screenshot to make sure we're on the same page for what I'm looking for.
[06:51] <clumsy_bot> Gimme a sec.
[06:51] <zacwalls> What file protocol do i use?
[06:51] <gartral> undecim: it did *NOT* work out of the box, I had to install the xorg input driver for it
[06:51] <undecim> gartral, Can you confirm that this driver is currently installed?
[06:51] <gartral> undecim: hold
[06:52] <undecim> zacwalls, to transfer files over SSH, use SFTP
[06:52] <zacwalls> okay
[06:52] <zacwalls> what about host name and port and all that stuff?
[06:53] <undecim> zacwalls, You'll need to figure out your host name. Port wont matter if you specify SFTP (22 by default, I think)
[06:53] <gartral> undecim: installed yes; in xorg.conf; yes, loaded and working; no
[06:53] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: bubbasaures http://mediacrush.net/V9LPpLoGLU47
[06:53] <undecim> zacwalls, figure out your IP address, I mean
[06:53] <undecim> zacwalls, And use that as the host name
[06:53] <zacwalls> Wat command on ubuntu?
[06:53] <undecim> gartral, Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[06:53] <undecim> zacwalls, ip addr
[06:53] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: Files are still accessible, and the remaining free space is also usable. I'm curious on how to achieve a similar result without the use of Startup disk Creator
[06:54] <zacwalls> Txh
[06:54] <zacwalls> *thx
[06:54] <undecim> clumsy_bot, You can start a live session from the creator and investigate the configuration
[06:55] <bubbasaures> clumsy_bot, many usb loaders, most have a persistent as aart of the install choice, you can make a partition as well casper-rw is the key, right click it and see it's size.
[06:55] <undecim> clumsy_bot, better yet, open up 2 VMs. One using a creator USB and one using a unetbootin USB or a Live CD
[06:55] <bubbasaures> part*
[06:55] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, format the drive to fat32/xfat.  use fdisk to create OS partition of ... say 5 GB.  create a secondary partition labeled casper-rw in ext4 format .  dd your .iso, delete the casper-rw file
[06:55] <gartral> undecim: certainly, ICH9M-E LPC
[06:55] <gartral> oops
[06:55] <zacwalls> inet?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !persistence | clumsy_bot
[06:55] <gartral> undecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765802/
[06:56] <undecim> gartral, What's the name of the driver?
[06:56] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: undecim I'll check out all your suggestions. Thanks.
[06:56] <gartral> undecim: it used to be xinput-wacom or similar..
[06:56] <zacwalls> Or inet6?
[06:57] <undecim> gartral, your Xorg.conf, also
[06:57] <gartral> undecim: I'm sorry I don't remember the exact name >.>
[06:57] <undecim> gartral, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:57] <bubbasaures> clumsy_bot, Just be aware if you have anything saved on the usb, when you remove casper it is gone.
[06:57] <undecim> gartral, Or may be files in xorg.conf.d
[06:58] <clumsy_bot> bubbasaures: Alright, I'll bear that in mind.
[06:58] <undecim> gartral, from Xorg.0.log: [    63.445] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
[06:58] <zacwalls> Cant assign
[06:58] <undecim> gartral, did Xorg.conf change with the upgrade?
[06:59] <gartral> undecim: neither /etc.X11/xorg.conf nor /etc/xorg.conf.d exist
[06:59] <l9> reinstalling is #¤%&%/%¤/64 to say at least :/ oh well fresh slate i recong
[07:00] <undecim> gartral, You said "in xorg.conf: yes"
[07:00] <zacwalls> Wat username?
[07:00] <Ben64> zacwalls: your username in ubuntu
[07:00] <gartral> i did, but I don't remember where it was >.<
[07:00] <zacwalls> Oh
[07:01] <gartral> undecim: I should point out that I may have had one too many beers tonight
[07:01] <undecim> gartral, well it's certainly not in a place where Xorg will use it
[07:01] <undecim> It should still auto-detect I would think...
[07:01] <gartral> undecim: "find Xorg.conf" and "locate Xorg.conf" both failed
[07:01] <zacwalls> password is my unix password correct?
[07:01] <undecim> zacwalls, correct.
[07:01] <gartral> zacwalls: yep
[07:02] <zacwalls> Is there anything i need to do on ubuntu?
[07:02] <gartral> zacwalls: have you used any linux/*nix before?
[07:02] <zacwalls> um....
[07:03] <zacwalls> not sure
[07:03] <undecim> gartral, So you're SURE that xserver-xorg-input-wacom package is still installed?
[07:03] <gartral> undecim: YES i had to reinstaal it, and rebooted after
[07:03] <undecim> zacwalls, All you have to do on ubuntu is install the openssh-server package. After that, any SSH client can access the computer with the IP address, username, and password
[07:04] <zacwalls> so in terminal?
[07:05] <undecim> gartral, So you added it to xorg.conf before, and now xorg.conf is missing?
[07:05] <undecim> zacwalls, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:05] <gartral> undecim: this seems to be the case..
[07:05] <zacwalls> I did
[07:05] <zacwalls> so do i have to run it?
[07:05] <undecim> zacwalls, No, it installs it as a service and launches it immediately
[07:06] <undecim> gartral, well it seems you need to do that again.
[07:06] <undecim> gartral, see if there is something like xorg.conf.bak in /etc/X11/
[07:06] <gartral> undecim: add it to Xorg.conf? how if the file is missing?
[07:06] <undecim> gartral, I suppose the upgrade cleared it out.
[07:07] <zacwalls> I have a file on ubuntu that i wish to share with win. And my password wont work to login. so...... What did i do wrong?
[07:07] <gartral> undecim: nope, not there.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765824/
[07:07] <undecim> zacwalls, What client are you using?
[07:07] <zacwalls> winscp
[07:07] <undecim> I'm not familiar with winscp. What errors does it display on failure?
[07:07] <zacwalls> and it says somthing about the server closing
[07:08] <undecim> zacwalls, From Ubuntu, can you successfully run "ssh localhost"?
[07:09] <Forest-Dragon> Hiya, I am wondering, which channel should I visit for asking people to review a program I am working on and offer suggestions?
[07:09] <zacwalls> I added it to the list of known hosts
[07:10] <undecim> Forest-Dragon, if it's an ubuntu-related program, maybe #ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:10] <undecim> zacwalls, That is with "ssh localhost"?
[07:10] <zacwalls> yes
[07:10] <eatyourguitar> has anyone here installed clojure? I'm looking for an install guide for clojure + leiningen + quil
[07:10] <Forest-Dragon> Thanks.
[07:10] <undecim> zacwalls, Did the login complete? You should see a fresh print of your system stats and stuff
[07:11] <ErC1> I using Vuse <IP_ADDRESS> , Is there anyway to get an updated Woring Vuze ?
[07:11] <undecim> zacwalls, It will look like you opened a new terminal
[07:11] <zacwalls> ecdsa key fingerprint
[07:11] <ErC1> I using Vuse <IP_ADDRESS> , Is there anyway to get an updated Working Vuze ?
[07:11] <zacwalls> so...no
[07:11] <undecim> zacwalls, can you pastebin that terminal?
[07:11] <thomedy> i went to sudo apt-get install ffmpeg and i dont even have it as a candidate
[07:11] <thomedy> wtf
[07:12] <zacwalls> i just want to say im on eth0
[07:12] <kk_> need help to autodetect android device on ubuntu armhf image on beaglebone black
[07:12] <zacwalls> i dont have wireless compatibilities on ubuntu
[07:12] <kk_> anybody experience with MTP on ubuntu?
[07:13] <jamie_>  hey,  came on here earlier trying to get some help but it seemed a little busy... for some odd reason when trying to run kde desktop environment it will go through the login via ubuntu 14.10 lightdm but then as it gets to leaving the login the screen goes black no courser and ctrl-alt-f1 doesn’t work at all and the screen seems to be turned off
[07:14] <gartral> undecim: you as confused as I am?!?
[07:14] <undecim> gartral, Can you bring me beers until I'm as confused as you are?
[07:14] <gartral> undecim: you in Ohio?
[07:14] <zacwalls> http://pastebin.com/WAU97YqU
[07:15] <undecim> gartral, No, Alabama
[07:15] <gartral> undecim: darn, no I can't
[07:15] <zacwalls> what is the localhost password?
[07:15] <undecim> Your login password
[07:15] <zacwalls> nope
[07:16]  * gartral bang head into his Linux Bible saying "Give me strength!"
[07:16] <undecim> zacwalls, do "ssh -vv localhost" and pastebin the result
[07:16] <zacwalls> k
[07:16] <The_Stuntman> wondered if someone could give me a quick hand with a mail server setup, I utilized this guide here http://www.krizna.com/ubuntu/setup-mail-server-ubuntu-14-04/
[07:16] <The_Stuntman> and it seems like if I telnet, I can see all of the ports are open but 23 and 993
[07:17] <The_Stuntman> I used uwf disable to disable the firewall for testing purposes
[07:17] <jamie_> zacwalls: do you think it may not be set, kinda like root where it needs to be set first for some odd reason, i know its normaley not that way with localhost... but what the heck
[07:17] <The_Stuntman> I'm running ubuntu 14.04.1
[07:17] <undecim> jamie_, It would have given an incorrect password line if it were a bad password or username
[07:17] <zacwalls> Maybe?
[07:17] <undecim> I've never seen it just drop the connection like that
[07:17] <jamie_> undecim: it was a shot in the dark
[07:18] <zacwalls> http://pastebin.com/acXuewSs
[07:18] <undecim> jamie_, Or maybe his is behaving differently for some reason
[07:18] <jamie_> undecim: one sec let me take a closer look
[07:19] <undecim> zacwalls, That time it worked O_o
[07:19] <zacwalls> IDK anymore
[07:19] <undecim> zacwalls, "Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS"
[07:19] <undecim> try from Win again
[07:19] <undecim> maybe it fixed itself.
[07:19] <jamie_> undecim: are yall trying to set up a apache?
[07:19] <undecim> jamie_, SSH server
[07:19] <jamie_> undecim: same concept
[07:19] <zacwalls> access denied
[07:20] <zacwalls> :(
[07:20] <undecim> zacwalls, try again. That sounds like a bad username or password
[07:20] <zacwalls> Did i use the right ip/username?
[07:20] <undecim> It was a different error from before?
[07:20] <zacwalls> how can i see what my username for ssh is?
[07:20] <The_Stuntman> nevermind -.- apparantly all I needed was a quick restart
[07:20] <undecim> 'Access denied' sounds like it's the right IP address, but bad login credentials
[07:21] <undecim> zacwalls, It's the same username as ubuntu
[07:21] <zacwalls> i mean the host name
[07:21] <zacwalls> srry
[07:21] <undecim> zacwalls, in a terminal: whoami
[07:21] <jamie_> undecim: are you using just openssh
[07:21] <zacwalls> okay
[07:21] <jamie_> sorry kinda came in late
[07:21] <undecim> zacwalls, host name will be the IP address
[07:21] <zacwalls> I am zack
[07:21] <zacwalls> thats what it says
[07:22] <undecim> jamie_, Trying to transfer files to/from windows client. Winscp fails to login to SSH
[07:22] <undecim> zacwalls, hostname = your ip address from "ip addr"; username = your username from "whoami"; password = your unix password
[07:23] <undecim> zacwalls, if it gave the error "access denied" you probably have the right hostname/ip
[07:23] <undecim> zacwalls, A bad username will give the same error as a bad password (so hackers can't figure out what usernames exist)
[07:24] <jamie_> undecim: so you just want to transfer files.... why dont you just use samba
[07:24] <zacwalls> I figuerd it out
[07:24] <undecim> jamie_, he was given the option of that and SSH, chose SSH
[07:24] <undecim> SSH is easier than samba
[07:25] <zacwalls> Thx for all your guys help
[07:25] <undecim> No setting up shares and whatnot.. Just access to all the files
[07:25] <zacwalls> Bye!
[07:25] <undecim> zacwalls, any time
[07:25] <jamie_> sorry i wasnt of much help
[07:25] <jamie_> undecim: undecim: okay, i was just asking because samba in my opinion is easier... compared to this... and well ssh is used for adminstation mainly
[07:26] <undecim> No need to apologize for something like that. It's not like we're paying you
[07:26] <jamie_> well i enjoy helping
[07:26] <undecim> jamie_, Well, depends on the situation. For personal use by a Linux user, SSH is the way to go. Its flexible and quick to set up
[07:26]  * cfhowlett was preparing the invoice ...
[07:26] <undecim> If you set it up for others to use, Samba is easier for the end user
[07:27] <jamie_> undecim: for constant use and easier maintenance and adding computers i would have to say samba is more worth the time
[07:27] <jamie_> but to each their own
[07:28] <undecim> exactly. Whatever works
[07:28] <gartral> undecim: well, i'mma sleep on the issue... maybe by tomarrow I'll have a clue
[07:28] <undecim> gartral, Have fun with it!
[07:28] <undecim> gartral, Xorg.conf is easier sober
[07:28] <gartral> undecim: I wrote server code drunk that didn't break in 6 weeks
[07:29] <jamie_> oh... by the way.... i almost forgot i came on here for a specific reason this time
[07:29] <undecim> This is why I stick with LTS. Upgrades are nightmares
[07:29] <undecim> gartral, I write my best code drunk
[07:29] <gartral> undecim: I agree on both counts
[07:30] <undecim> gartral, sometimes i have use hemingway's advice and edit later
[07:30] <jamie_> lol that is a odd thing... but I cant say much... i work best half asleep and after a 27hr day
[07:30] <undecim> For me, it works best to plan out the whole task sober, then write it with a few in me
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> jamie_: adrenaline only periods of time
[07:31] <undecim> Unless I get past that Ballmer peak
[07:31] <jamie_> aeon-ltd: i dont sleep much in general... so.... yea
[07:31] <Chocola> hi, anyone know how to set vsftpd to use port 2222? result would be like this: ftp://my.domain.com:2222 at browser
[07:31] <jamie_> oh and while i still remember... im gonna scratch you brains for a min
[07:32] <jamie_>  for some odd reason when trying to run kde desktop environment it will go through the login via ubuntu 14.10 lightdm but then as it gets to leaving the login the screen goes black no courser and ctrl-alt-f1 doesn’t work at all and the screen seems to be turned off
[07:32] <undecim> jamie_, You have to hard shutdown?
[07:32] <jamie_> kinda
[07:32] <undecim> Can you raise elephants?
[07:33] <bazhang> undecim, thats not helpful
[07:33] <jamie_> lol what.... but sometimes i can use the double tap of ctrl-alt-delete and it will take me back to login... but some of them i have to hard reboot
[07:33] <undecim> bazhang, The B still works, doesn't it?
[07:34] <undecim> I haven't had to do it in so long... I know Ubuntu disabled some of the SysRq
[07:34] <undecim> jamie_, It sounds like a hardware issue, probably graphics related
[07:34] <bazhang> undecim, this channel is for support, please refrain from nonsense commentary, thanks
[07:34] <jamie_> hey... i dont necessarily need it but im getting a good laugh right now
[07:34] <jamie_> Nope, can guarentee it
[07:34] <undecim> bazhang, eh?
[07:34] <jamie_> i am currently in genome3
[07:35] <undecim> bazhang, What nonsense commentary?
[07:35] <jamie_> can run cinnamon and ubuntu default also.. but kde doesnt work
[07:35] <cfhowlett> undecim, "elephants" is clearly offtopic
[07:35] <undecim> "raise elephants" refers to SysRq keys
[07:36] <bazhang> the whole drunkenness bits
[07:36] <undecim> jamie_, KDE starts a compositor by default, I think
[07:36] <undecim> jamie_, That may be triggering the thing
[07:37] <undecim> jamie_, You say sometimes you can get back to a login? So the computer isn't totally halted.
[07:37] <undecim> bazhang, Oh yeah. You were a little late for that? Now we're just adding more lines talking about it...
[07:38] <undecim> jamie_, Are you logged into X now?
[07:38] <jamie_> undecim: the first time i went to log onto kde desktop it popped up with the start of kubuntu but then... went black at first I thought it may be due to not running the standard x11 for it
[07:38] <undecim> jamie_, I'd like to see an Xorg log from a failed session
[07:38] <jamie_> that is the weird thing... I have checked... there isnt one
[07:38] <jamie_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765523/
[07:38] <ki7mt_> Chocola, unless things have changed rescently, edit the vsftp conf file in /etc/vsftpd.conf and set the listen_port
[07:39] <undecim> jamie_, Xorg.0.log?
[07:39] <jamie_> one sec
[07:39] <undecim> jamie_, Or are you logged into X in another DE right now? if so, that's not a log from a failed session
[07:40] <undecim> jamie_, though your previous session (Xorg.1.log) was Jan 5?
[07:40] <jamie_> no... and that is from about 1 hr ago
[07:40] <undecim> jamie_, What GPU?
[07:41] <jamie_> undecim: NVS 3100M/PCIe/SSE2
[07:42] <undecim> jamie_, has anything remotely similar to this happened before?
[07:42] <jamie_> nope
[07:42] <void123> hello is crontab @reboot useless when you have encrypted lvm? ive bene trying different things and nothing ever happens, like @reboot logger "testing testing"
[07:43] <undecim> jamie_, Are you using proprietary drivers?
[07:43] <jamie_> yes
[07:43] <undecim> jamie_, does the same thing happen with FOSS drivers?
[07:44] <jamie_> the others dont work..... the stupid 331 bug applies to me.... :\
[07:44] <undecim> fun.
[07:45] <jamie_> undecim: so the recent linux kernal release kind scewed me over
[07:45] <undecim> even fbdev and vesa?
[07:45] <jamie_> cat/var/log/Xorg.0.log | less returns nothing but ~
[07:46] <undecim> Just to 1) verify that the drivers are part of the bug at hand and 2) to try disabling compositing in KDE
[07:46] <jamie_> how do i do that from outside of it
[07:46] <undecim> jamie_, Did you put a space after cat?
[07:46] <jamie_> lol whoups
[07:46] <undecim> jamie_, That's why I suggested a FOSS driver. idk how to do it from outside
[07:47] <undecim> jamie_, Also, you can just do 'less filename'
[07:47] <undecim> Save your pinky a trip over there
[07:48] <jamie_> one sec
[07:48] <DrManhattan> I'm getting a strange series of errors when I run du with the max-depth option. it doesn't interfere with the command but I am a bit worried about why it would do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765950/
[07:48] <jamie_> undecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765953/ .....
[07:49] <undecim> jamie_, nothing helpful there. This log is from a successful session?
[07:50] <jamie_> undecim: yes... gonna see if somehow i can manage to get one from the failed.... gonna try to launch no grapical terminal as soon as it accepts password
[07:50] <undecim> DrManhattan, possibly between the time that program sees that file exists, and attempts to access it, the file is gone?
[07:51] <DrManhattan> hmm
[07:51] <undecim> DrManhattan, /proc/ is one of those funny filesystems that doesn't have a lot of "normal" files
[07:51] <undecim> DrManhattan, is it the same files each time?
[07:51] <jamie_> and try all of the drivers real fast.... because when i switched to the proprietary from nvida when that one got working again it was no longer saying broken pipe reading from descriptor and now is again
[07:51] <DrManhattan> undecim, yes
[07:52] <DrManhattan> undecim, I got it - thank you http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/152851/du-command-gives-error-and-result-at-the-same-time
[07:54] <undecim> DrManhattan, when I do it, I get the same pattern with differn PIDs
[07:54] <DrManhattan> undecim - adding the -x option helped me
[07:54] <jamie_> undecim: what other drivers where you sugesting... all the ones here other than the open source are from nvida and base around the legacy binar driver
[07:54] <undecim> jamie_, vesa and fbdev
[07:55] <jamie_> Okay gonna look into those
[07:55] <undecim> jamie_, You either have to set them up in xorg.conf or remove the other drivers
[07:55] <jamie_> this ought be fun
[07:55] <undecim> If you can get in with an alternate driver, try disabling the compositor in KDE and coming back with the proprietary
[07:56] <EriC^^> DrManhattan: i tried du /proc & ps aux
[07:56] <EriC^^> DrManhattan: undecim is right, it's the pid of the du command itself
[07:56] <DrManhattan> EriC^^, did you get the error too? just out of curiosity
[07:56] <DrManhattan> EriC^^, right on, thank you
[07:56] <EriC^^> it changes every time and it disappears
[07:58] <jamie_> undecim: any links for info?
[07:59] <undecim> jamie_, The first response in this link shows a simple xorg.conf to select the video driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006655
[07:59] <jamie_> undecim: okay thanks
[08:00] <undecim> How's Kubuntu/KDE these days?
[08:00] <jamie_> undecim: would love to tell ya
[08:00] <undecim> XD
[08:00] <jamie_> undecim: and i started to read down that.... the problem is different
[08:01] <undecim> jamie_, The problem is different, but the technique to change drivers is the same
[08:01] <jamie_> undecim: I have an odd idea.... if I uninstall kde then reinstall and try to redo it and the first time i do have access to the Xorg log
[08:02] <undecim> No point to do an uninstall and reinstall
[08:02] <undecim> Just remove the KDE stuff from your home dir
[08:02] <jamie_> well should, there was a small bit in first attempt that was there
[08:03] <jamie_> and I dont know if this may help... but when i start my computer it doesnt say ubuntu.... it says kubuntu
[08:03] <jamie_> but opens ubuntu lightdm login and under the x11 for ubuntu not kubuntu
[08:03] <cfhowlett> jamie_, that's a plymouth startup theme ... doesn't mean kubuntu is installed
[08:04] <undecim> jamie_, You might try changing to KDM then
[08:04] <jamie_> cfhowlett: i know, just saying that its instalizing that way for some odd reason
[08:04] <Chocola> ki7mt_ > just changing the listen_port ?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> jamie_, because at some point you installed  kubuntu ...
[08:04] <jamie_> undecim: it has since i installed kde from terminal
[08:05] <undecim> jamie_, So you're on KDM now?
[08:05] <jamie_> cfhowlett: its still ubuntu... not kubuntu all defaults are still set and its not using the x11 that kubuntu uses
[08:05] <jamie_> undecim: no I am in genome3
[08:05] <raj> in gparted, my drive size seems to be off by 1 byte, can someone tell me why? https://i.imgur.com/F6QGC2j.png and https://i.imgur.com/oBWcA4p.png
[08:05] <undecim> KDM = KDE Display Manager
[08:06] <jamie_> oh sorry, read it wrong
[08:06] <jamie_> and no... i am using lightdm
[08:07] <undecim> jamie_, You can try KDM. I would normally expect it to help,  but with proprietary drivers, anything is possible
[08:07] <jamie_> .... :\
[08:08] <jamie_> that is gonna really piss me off if it does....
[08:08] <undecim> jamie_, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' should switch it, I think
[08:08] <jamie_> when i was on earlier I asked and even stated that and asked.... and the person said no... there will be no difference
[08:09] <undecim> jamie_, Well normally, there shouldn't be a difference
[08:10] <jamie_> undecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9766028/
[08:10] <undecim> jamie_, I only suggest KDM because it might handle logging into KDE different than lightdm
[08:10] <jamie_> undecim: ^
[08:10] <undecim> Oh, i guess sudo apt-get install kdm, then
[08:11] <jamie_> ... lol
[08:11] <cfhowlett> jamie_, if it's splash screen options only ... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/tag/install-change-plymouth-themes/
[08:11] <jamie_> .... this is gonna sound really odd
[08:12] <jamie_> I actually already have two dm in there and setable... and kdm makes three.....
[08:13] <undecim> jamie_, Really? what's the other?
[08:13] <jamie_> gdm
[08:13] <jamie_> yea.... im like... where did that come from
[08:13] <undecim> Oh yeah, gnome3
[08:13] <jamie_> i know what its for... but i dont remember putting it there
[08:13] <undecim> jamie_, it comes with gnome 3
[08:14] <jamie_> .... it would have asked me... not to sound rude... this aint my first rodeo
[08:14] <jamie_> and also why wouldnt kdm be there to start with if it is for some odd reason thinking its kubuntu at start up
[08:15] <undecim> jamie_, Who knows.
[08:15] <nithin> Hi My Micro SD card is not working could some one please help me to recover it.
[08:15] <jamie_> i should restart the dm now right?
[08:16] <undecim> jamie_, errm... Stop lightdm, start kdm
[08:16] <bubbasaures> nithin, What is the file type?
[08:17] <bubbasaures> this a fat ext ntfs?
[08:17] <nithin> bubbasaures: file type in the sense?
[08:17] <bubbasaures> nithin, What is the partition  type?
[08:17] <nithin> i thing it is fat
[08:18] <bubbasaures> nithin, Can you run a chkdsk /f from windows if a MS type
[08:18] <bubbasaures> might work in  windows, have you checked?
[08:18] <jamie_> hey by any chance... do you know the command for that......
[08:18] <chebit> hi
[08:18] <chebit> which is more stable 14.04 or 14.10 ?
[08:18] <Ben64> 14.04 is LTS
[08:19] <jamie_> nvm.... just rememver i have to restart my computer.... dam
[08:19] <jamie_> be right back with outcome
[08:19] <undecim> jamie_, That works
[08:19] <chebit> I have problems with my 14.10
[08:20] <undecim> 14.04 should be more stable
[08:21] <undecim> it's an LTS, and it's had 6 more months of testing compared to 14.10
[08:21] <bubbasaures> don't hold back describing it to the channel
[08:23] <gagalicious> i am overly used to iptables
[08:23] <gagalicious> where is /etc/sysconfig/iptables in ubuntu 14.04
[08:23] <gagalicious> and how do i use iptables instead of ufw? what should i do? install iptables??
[08:24] <Ben64> gagalicious: iptables should already be installed
[08:25] <gagalicious> so what should i do?
[08:25] <gagalicious> if i disable ufw, does iptables still work?
[08:25] <bubbasaures> gagalicious, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[08:25] <Ben64> ufw is just a frontend to iptables, use whatever you want
[08:25] <jamie_> ....okay... that was not a good idea
[08:26] <nithin> my Micro sd card is not getting mounted (i tried in my mobile laptop) could any one please help
[08:26] <gagalicious> ufw .. for me is adding complications to iptables.
[08:26] <Ben64> nithin: plug it in, wait 10 seconds, and then pastebin the output of "dmesg"
[08:26] <undecim> jamie_, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' should give you the same menu again to switch back
[08:26] <Ben64> gagalicious: like i've said, use iptables then
[08:27] <jamie_> yea... i am currently in cinnamon right now..... had to use non gui
[08:27] <gagalicious> service iptables restart,,,,iptables: unrecognized service
[08:27] <gagalicious> how to restart iptables in ubuntu 14.04?
[08:27] <nithin> Ben64 "then pastebin the output of "dmesg"" could you please explain wat to do i couldnt understand
[08:27] <gagalicious> can i add to /etc/init.d/iptables from centos 6? i copy and paste?
[08:27] <undecim> jamie_, maybe KDM is doing the same thing KDE is to trigger?
[08:28] <Ben64> nithin: open a terminal, type "dmesg" , copy the text that comes out, probably only the last 20 lines or so are relevant, go to pastebin.com, put it in there, submit, then give the resulting link here
[08:28] <jamie_> undecim: lol think i should try gdm?
[08:28] <Ben64> gagalicious: ubuntu doesn't work the same way as redhat based distros
[08:28] <bazhang> gagalicious, try in #netfilter
[08:28] <undecim> jamie_, Eh, why not? it's even more of a long shot than KDM
[08:28] <gagalicious> yes i know
[08:29] <gagalicious> i'm transitioning from centos to ubuntu
[08:29] <gagalicious> very difficult
[08:29] <jamie_> well while im at it why not.... I already know to to fix it to default if i need to... lol
[08:29] <bazhang> gagalicious, try gufw then its the gui for ufw
[08:29] <nithin> Ben64, [  598.345384] sd 34:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[08:29] <nithin> [  831.264600] usb 2-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 12
[08:29] <nithin> [  939.618701] usb 2-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 15 using ehci-pci
[08:29] <nithin> [  939.874844] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 16 using ehci-pci
[08:29] <nithin> [  939.968836] usb 2-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=14cd, idProduct=121f
[08:29] <nithin> [  939.968846] usb 2-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2
[08:29] <gagalicious> i'm ysing command line ... operating server
[08:29] <gagalicious> basicailyl centos to ubuntu server
[08:29] <Ben64> nithin: really? i even explained fully how to go to pastebin.com :|
[08:30] <undecim> jamie_, well I'm about go to sleep
[08:30] <gagalicious> can u guys tell me how do i do service iptables restart in ubuntu 14.04 server/
[08:30] <Ben64> gagalicious: its not a service
[08:30] <jamie_> undecim: actually I have an odd idea... there is no way to launch a seperate desktop enviroment from kdm unless you ue the non gui
[08:30] <bubbasaures> gagalicious, You miss the link?
[08:30] <undecim> jamie_, okay
[08:31] <jamie_> well gonna try these ideas... either way i still have 3 desktop environments i just try to keep current with all of them... i can live... go to sleep man, thanks for the help though
[08:31] <undecim> jamie_, You might also be able to change some driver settings in Xorg.conf
[08:32] <undecim> jamie_, Anything that might change the state of the graphics card is a potential workaround/clue to what's going on
[08:32] <gagalicious> i read the link
[08:32] <undecim> good night, all
[08:32] <gagalicious> didnt say anything i need
[08:32] <undecim> jamie_, /msg me if you find a solution
[08:32] <jamie_> undecim: i have to drop off here to test these either way, and im not gonna go through all that touble for a 4th desktop enviroment
[08:32] <bubbasaures> hmm a official ubuntu wiki, imagine that
[08:32] <jamie_> undecim: okay, i am kinda intreiged though why it doesnt work
[08:33] <nithin> Ben64, i have done that please find the resultant link: http://pastebin.com/0bK3GqJf
[08:33] <jamie_> but have a good night
[08:33] <Ben64> nithin: seems like you have a damaged or otherwise corrupted or deleted card
[08:34] <nithin> Ben64, what can i do to recover it?
[08:34] <Ben64> nithin: you can make an image of it using ddrescue and seeing if you can recover any data using testdisk/photorec
[08:35] <nithin> Ben64, could you please give a detailed explanation on what to be done
[08:36] <Ben64> nithin: 1. use ddrescue to make an image of the card, putting it on your hard drive or something else 2. use testdisk and/or photorec to try to recover any files
[08:37] <Ben64> nithin: more information here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[08:42] <gagalicious> iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?).
[08:42] <gagalicious> why?
[08:55] <Platypus-Man> apt-get tells me that I have broken packages, and it turns out one of my packages depends on "libperl5.14" which I have no install candidate for with my defualt Ubuntu PPAs, anyone know which PPA I can add to get it?
[08:56] <Ben64> Platypus-Man: PPAs aren't supported here
[08:57] <Platypus-Man> ok, whatever else makes apt-get work then.. I really have no clue what I'm doing
[08:57] <Ben64> Platypus-Man: what version of ubuntu
[08:58] <Platypus-Man> think it might be 14.10, perhaps 14.04.. any way to check via commandline?
[08:58] <Ben64> lsb_release -d
[08:59] <Platypus-Man> I did a dist-upgrade though (was recommended do-release-upgrade, but that didn't work for me)
[08:59] <Platypus-Man> 14.04.1 LTS
[09:00] <Seveas> Platypus-Man: there's no such thing as 'default ppa'. By default there are no PPA's enabled.
[09:00] <Ben64> libperl5.14 is not in 14.04, you got some weird stuff going on, probably mixing PPAs for other releases of Ubuntu, sounds bad
[09:00] <Seveas> !info perl trusty
[09:01] <Seveas> yeah, 5.18. You added some PPA's for saucy or raring
[09:01] <Seveas> time to ppa-purge :)
[09:01] <Platypus-Man> so... any way to upgrade to 14.10 or do I need to re-install? as mentioned, I was recommended to do apt-get do-release-upgrade but that didn't work for me
[09:02] <Ben64> 14.04 is not the problem
[09:03] <Ben64> Platypus-Man: pastebin the outputs of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:03] <Seveas> Platypus-Man: first you need to purge the broken packages
[09:03] <Seveas> otherwise apt-get won't be able to do much
[09:04] <Mathis> hey
[09:04] <Seveas> hi Mathis
[09:04] <darkvi0l3t> hi
[09:06] <Mathis> I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a UEFI system (in secure mode)... I downloaded the ISO file and burned it on DVD... the UEFI cannot boot from it, what did I do wrong?
[09:07] <Platypus-Man> sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9766197/ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/9766203/
[09:08] <Seveas> !uefi | Mathis
[09:08] <Mathis> thanks, I already know about UEFI
[09:08] <Seveas> so you have read that wikipage?
[09:09] <Mathis> they wrote there for installing in secure mode, I have to set it in the UEFI setup and boot from that CD
[09:09] <Mathis> so I set Boot Mode: UEFI Win7
[09:09] <Mathis> also tried UEFI Win8
[09:09] <Mathis> but in both modes the CD drive is not shown in the boot manager
[09:10] <Mathis> I even downloaded the ubuntu-14.04-amd64+mac.iso and used that
[09:11] <Mathis> installing in Legacy Win7 mode worked fine, btw
[09:13] <GuyOnEDGE> Hi
[09:13] <GuyOnEDGE> Hi
[09:13] <tolditsa> GuyOnEDGE: Hi
[09:14] <darkvi0l3t> hi
[09:15] <GuyOnEDGE> Hi
[09:16] <darkvi0l3t> does anyone know anything about multimonitor issues im in kubuntu 14.10 with kwin and the windows always load on the wrong screen
[09:23] <coleman> hey trying to install ubuntu, got it hooked via hdmi to a tv, but the sidebar and top menu are all out of frame, checked my display settings on the tv and it is set to full
[09:23] <coleman> anythoughts?
[09:24] <tolditsa> coleman: it's called underscan. Does your tv have pc mode in settings
[09:25] <Ben64> overscan*
[09:25] <coleman> not thought i can find? its a panasonic 32 inch
[09:25] <Ben64> its not always easy to find
[09:25] <tolditsa> coleman: sometimes the setting is called different names. Go into tv settings and search.
[09:26] <coleman> i did, not seeing anything related
[09:26] <coleman> its more of a resolution issue
[09:26] <Ben64> it isn't
[09:26] <tolditsa> coleman: look for 1:1 pixel setting maybe
[09:28] <cluster_groupie> is there no reliable wireless driver for ubuntu 14.04 on lenovo L440?
[09:28] <OerHeks> cluster_groupie, wireless b/g/n ?
[09:29] <tolditsa> coleman: find anything yet
[09:30] <herkules2> hal
[09:31] <coleman> no
[09:32] <coleman> tv is an panasonic TC-l32u3
[09:32] <tolditsa> coleman: Are you looking in settings of the TV.
[09:32] <coleman> yes
[09:32] <coleman> hit menu on the remote and poke around
[09:36] <tolditsa> coleman: if not found. What GPU do you have
[09:38] <coleman> its the intel, sec ill look up the exact
[09:39] <Ben64> "This TV hooked up to my PC's HDMI port without problems, and produces a crystal-clear, sharp picture. For people complaining about 'halos' around screen fonts etc., turn down the 'sharpness' setting in the picture settings. If you have overscan issues and the edges of the screen appear cut off, switch to 'HDMI2' mode in the settings and your screen will display properly."
[09:39] <Ben64> from amazon review of that tv
[09:39] <coleman> its not halos
[09:39] <Ben64> keep reading
[09:39] <Nathan2055> Alright, so I wanted to get KDE installed alongside Unity on 14.04.
[09:40] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop package Nathan2055
[09:40] <Nathan2055> I loaded the kubuntu-desktop package and it works great, except for a few problems.
[09:40] <Nathan2055> #1: It uses the Kubuntu logo for the start-up shutdown splash (not really a big problem, but still weird).
[09:41] <tolditsa> coleman: see if switching to hdmi mode 2 like Ben64 said. Not sure if he means switching ports on tv.
[09:41] <Nathan2055> #2: The font in Unity menus is wrong.
[09:41] <Nathan2055> How do I fix this?
[09:41] <coleman> i tried port two, am lookinjg for that setting
[09:42] <coleman> oh man
[09:42] <coleman> there was a sub menu i just completely was missing
[09:42] <coleman> damn
[09:42] <coleman> well thank you!