[05:31] <coz_> NiS,   make sure compizconfig-settings-manager is installed ,, open that with    ccsm or under system/preferences/compizconfig-settings=manager
[05:31] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/58n9uHY4
[05:31] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | NiS
[05:31] <coz_> killown,  oooo
[05:32] <killown> it goes to initramfs /dev/loop failed
[05:32] <killown> because was not possible mount any partition
[05:32] <Jordan_U> killown: 64 bit vs 32 bit should have nothing to do with supporting Nvidia FakeRAID.
[05:32] <KM0201> killown: it's really all irrelevant, because yopu can't upgrade 32bit, to 64bit... that requires a clean install, and if you can't install 64bit.. then it's a pointless discussion
[05:32] <coz_> simple-ccsm is not installable on 11.04  yet I believe
[05:32] <killown> Jordan_U, here is not working
[05:32] <NiS> will i get the super+tab effect after i install simple-ccsm?
[05:32] <NiS> its not?
[05:33] <coz_> NiS,  no  ,, it requires compiz 0.8.x
[05:33] <coz_> at this point anyway
[05:33] <NiS> then? what should i do for super+tab effect?
[05:33] <coz_> NiS,  install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:33] <Jordan_U> killown: What version of 32 bit Ubuntu worked? What version of 64 bit Ubuntu didn't work?
[05:33] <coz_> NiS,  which is the "full"  ccsm
[05:33] <NiS> ohhhh
[05:33] <killown> Jordan_U, maverick x86
[05:34] <killown> ubuntu natty 64bits didn't worked
[05:34] <killown> maverick works fine
[05:34] <Jordan_U> killown: Then it's more likely a difference between maverick and natty than 32 vs 64 bit.
[05:35] <coz_> killown,  out of curiosity ,, what video card do you have?
[05:35] <NiS> sorry, but i am really new to ubuntu/
[05:35] <NiS> i typed what you told me to download in the software center's search bar, and got this...
[05:35] <killown> coz_, gt430
[05:35] <NiS> advanced desktop effects settings (ccsm)
[05:35] <NiS> should i install this?
[05:35] <FloodBot1> NiS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <coz_> NiS,   yes
[05:36] <coz_> NiS,  after installing you can hit  alt+F2  type     ccsm
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> lorenz: weird,could reboot, then run:  dmesg | less     to see what happens at boot
[05:36] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, okay, will try that
[05:37] <jfe> Is there any way to have the "Places" show directories in $HOME that have been renamed?
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> coz_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/compiz-adds-natty-ppa/ ;)
[05:37] <jfe> s/"Places"/"Places" menu/
[05:37] <coz_> jfe,  ooo can  you explain that better ..yes?
[05:38] <Scarra3> I had a question about ubuntu 11.04 the searchbox that shows up takes up the whole screen and I noticed on the ubuntu website that it doesn't there
[05:38] <ShayGuy> Okies, back.
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> NiShttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/compiz-adds-natty-ppa/
[05:38] <arand> jfe: You can add them as bookmarks.
[05:39] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  the PPA for compiz?  I believe that is for maverick only ,, yes?
[05:39] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: You wanted me to pastebin the output of apt-get update?
[05:39] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  there is a script written by soreau that is flawless and much easier to deal with compiling compiz and it can be updated by running script again  ,, pretty nifty
[05:39] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Yes (sudo apt-get update).
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> coz_: site says natty, but isn't
[05:40] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  yeah sam didnt create one for natty,, no need with soreau's script if anyone wants to test it ... the compiled version is way better but no Unity plugin of course
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> coz_: natty has 0.9.4 anyhoo :)
[05:40] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  yep it sure does :)
[05:41] <NiS> i started ccsm, i cant find the super+tab thing. and one more thing, the top panel has turned totally black! there is some weird patterns on it, now what?
[05:41] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/hgQ3WZiW
[05:41] <kitt> Hello, I am trying to get my wireless card working and I downloaded a driver from Ralink that had the filending DPO.bz2    how do I extract this file properly?  I tried tar -xvjf and it said "bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file"
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> lorenz: use cursors to scroll down and up, its a LOT  more than that
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> kitt: install unp, then just run:  unp filename
[05:42] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: It was a bit different this time. http://paste.ubuntu.com/605054/
[05:44] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, this wahttp://pastebin.com/94jYpZNNs at the bottom
[05:44] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/94jYpZNN
[05:44] <kitt> ActionParsnip: okay, going to try it out
[05:44] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm trying to install the libcv4 with apt-get but i'm getting the following - update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/bin/javaws is already managed by javaws.before_restore_2011-03-28_<IP_ADDRESS>366
[05:44] <boxbeatsy> any ideas?
[05:45] <boxbeatsy> the error status was: dpkg: error processing sun-java6-bin (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> lorenz: eth0 is your ethernet port (wired conection)
[05:45] <Gryllida> How do I change the onlogin message which I see when I ssh?
[05:45] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  did you already install ubuntu restricted extras?
[05:45] <Gryllida> It includes a link to Ubuntu documentation by default but I want to expand it.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Gryllida: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[05:46] <boxbeatsy> coz_: i think it's installed, when i do aptitude search tehre's an i next to it
[05:46] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/qvkAj5tp
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Gryllida: theres a banner section there
[05:46] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, I think that could be it...
[05:47] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  not sure but open synaptic package manager,, hit Search and type in icedtea
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> lorenz: ok try this:   sudo modprobe -r ath5k; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath5k
[05:47] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  you want sun java  ...yes?
[05:47] <boxbeatsy> coz_: yea from the error it seems like the problem is with sun java 6 bin
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> boxbeatsy: are you using natty?
[05:48] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, I ran the command--should I expect something?
[05:48] <boxbeatsy> ActionParsnip: not sure what natty is, i guess not?
[05:48] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  ubuntu 11.04
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> boxbeatsy: what is the output of;  lsb_release -d
[05:48] <boxbeatsy> oo, no 10.04
[05:48] <coz_> pok
[05:48] <triy> sip
[05:48] <coz_> ok
[05:49] <triy> ok
[05:49] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  is syanptic opened?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> boxbeatsy: ok that answered it :)
[05:49] <boxbeatsy> coz_: yea
[05:49] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  and did you search for icedtea
[05:49] <boxbeatsy> i typed in icedtea like yous adi
[05:49] <triy> no
[05:49] <Gryllida> The page says I can replace "etc/issue.cat" with "etc/issue" to display message after the user logs in instead of displaying it before he logs in. How do I display both?
[05:49] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  did a list of installed packages s how up?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> boxbeatsy: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/   it also has a Lucid branch
[05:49] <boxbeatsy> coz_: yea i have 10 pckgs showing up, 6 have green boxes lit up
[05:50] <ghostnik11> can empathy 3.0.1 work in ubuntu 10.10?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> Gryllida: oh like when you first hit the server you want a message then
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: sure, why not
[05:50] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  ok  what I normally do is right click each package and      choose   Remove completely,, then hit search again and type  sun java  and look for the sun-java6-plugin
[05:50] <kitt> ActionParsnip:  Alright I tried out the unp program but it threw me back errors when it came to extracting, does it mean something is wrong with the file itself?  here is the URL http://www.ralinktech.com/license_us.php?n=2&p=0&t=U0wyRnpjMlYwY3k4eU1ERXhMekEwTHpJM0wyUnZkMjVzYjJGa056RXhOamcyTXpRMk9DNWllakk5UFQweU1ERXhYekEwTWpkZlVsUXpOVGN5WDB4cGJuVjRYMU5VUVY5Mk1pNDFMakF1TUM1RVVFOD1D
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Gryllida: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/change-openssh-sshd-server-login-banner.html
[05:51] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  if you want other sun  packages they will be there as well,, however,, the sun java plugin will pull in many of them
[05:51] <kitt> its the RT3572USB driver on the Ralink site
[05:51] <boxbeatsy> coz_: ok doing that now
[05:51] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: then how come when i put the new telepathy ppa it didn't update empathy, for me, i have 2.32.1 and i noticed that empathy is up to 3.0.1
[05:52] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   then when both of them are ready  go a head and hit the  Apply button
[05:52] <boxbeatsy> coz_: i got the following error while removing: E: sun-java6-bin: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:52] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605056/
[05:52] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   ok  go to the Edit menu in synaptic and choose    Fix broken packages
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> kitt: strange, the file downloads but is empty - 0k
[05:52] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  see if anything sh ows up
[05:52] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   then hit apply to fix if so
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[05:53] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: will try right now, thanks
[05:53] <boxbeatsy> coz_: hmm i dont think anything is happening when i cilck fix broken packages
[05:53] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: That is very odd. run "gksudo software-properties-gtk" and switch to the main or US mirror.
[05:53] <boxbeatsy> coz_: the screen blinks and nothing happens
[05:54] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  ok .. search for sun java,, are any packages already marked?
[05:54] <kitt> ActionParsnip: I think it may be due to a GET/POST thing or something, if you go to http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2 and click on the RT3572USB linux driver, thats the file (You can enter in a bogus name/email when prompted)
[05:54] <boxbeatsy> coz_: yea, got 4 marked
[05:54] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   if so right click and either  Unmark   or  Remove completely
[05:54] <boxbeatsy> coz_: k
[05:54] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  then hit Apply again
[05:54] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, that command you gave me earlier, was I supposed to follow it up with something?
[05:55] <ChronicSyncope> well that was odd
[05:55] <boxbeatsy> coz_: ok done, got the same error though
[05:55] <coz_> ooo
[05:55] <boxbeatsy> E: sun-java6-bin: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:56] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Switched to "Server for United States" and clicked "Close." Opened the window again through the Software Center and it still said "Main server." Is that supposed to happen?
[05:56] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   well it may be because it is nearlfy 1a, here and my eyes are heavy,, I know there is a way to remedy this ,, I have done it times before ,, I just cant think of it off the top of my head
[05:56] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  rather 1am here
[05:56] <boxbeatsy> coz_: hehe, i understand
[05:56] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: No.
[05:56] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  apologies for taking your time on this
[05:56] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Has your /etc/apt/sources.list changed?
[05:57] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  someone here can definitly help
[05:57] <coz_> I am off to bed,, be nice ,, share what you know ,, dont walk into the light !!  :)
[05:57] <boxbeatsy> coz_: np, thanks for your help
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> kitt: not sure, the file seem broken
[05:58] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm getting the following error when trying to install sun-java6-bin https://gist.github.com/08e55ee0b34fc4e9c8cd.  does anyone know how to completely remove and reinsatll sun java correctly?
[05:59] <r0fs3ck5> How can I point nmapplet to use a specific port for DNS?
[05:59] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, whattya  think? A reinstall?
[06:00] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, I was thinking Xubuntu this time...
[06:00] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: nope, i typed the update command in terminal and nothing happened or changed via terminal or synaptic command, still saying i have empathy 2.32.1
[06:00] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Appears to be no change.
[06:00] <kitt> ActionParsnip:  :/  Alright, thanks for helping me.  I wish Ubuntu would have put more resources into hardware support rather than Unity
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> kitt: its not ubuntu's job
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> kitt: its the hardware manufacturers
[06:02] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: i thinked its b/c i am on ubuntu 10.10 as when i look on http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/303030 it says 3.01 but it also says 11.04
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> kitt: if hardware manufacturers made more linux drivers it would be better
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> lorenz: all I can suggest is compiling the driver, maybe others can advise
[06:03] <zus> is there a gnome version for  k3b?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> zus: no, k3b is Qt only
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> !burner
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> zus: try gnomebaker, its pretty sweet
[06:04] <zus> does it burn images to usb so i can make bootable discs?
[06:04] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, So it initially worked out of the box, and now it does not--can you suggest any reason why this might be? Could it be an update that caused it?
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> lorenz: different kernel, differnet modules is my guess. Not sure
[06:05] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, Ahhh, a kernel issue you think
[06:06] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, like the card could be black listed or something
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> lorenz: if it works OOTB then the controller is detected by the stock kernel modules
[06:06] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, Worked, the blue light is on but the wireless connection is greyed over on the top left corner of the gnome gui
[06:07] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, oops, top right
[06:07] <NiS> i downloaded the ccsm as said, for the super+tab effect. While enabling, it keeps asking me to resolve conflicts with others? what to do?
[06:07] <intok> How would I go about debugging waking from hibernation?
[06:08] <zus> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[06:08] <lu5tic> hi there i am trying to mount a dmg file on my desktop could someone give me the correct command please
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> NiS: the shortcut combo is assigned to another active plugin, you can't have 2 actions using the same shortcut, read the dialogue is what you should do
[06:09] <ghostnik11> has anyone experienced problems upgrading via update manager from 10.10 to 11.04
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> lu5tic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages  has a section on DMG
[06:10] <zus> is unity supposed to minimise  windows as well? the launcher on the side?
[06:10] <r0fs3ck5> lu5tic: sudo mount -t [yourFS] -o loop /home/[you]/Desktop/your.dmg
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: no but i've seen loads in here
[06:10] <NiS> thanks, i disabled the other plugin. When i am doing one of the effects, the bar at the top disappears and instead shows random colours and patterns. Is this a bug?
[06:10] <r0fs3ck5> lu5tic: or something like that
[06:10] <lu5tic> thank you r0fs... i understood  just wast sure how to navigate to my desktop what the command would be THANK YOU
[06:10] <lu5tic> i love this chat room
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> NiS: not at all
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> NiS: if you set a shortcut, then try and set another action to it, you will generate a conflict.How is that a bug?
[06:11] <r0fs3ck5> lu5tic: make sure you use capital 'D' for Desktop
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> r0fs3ck5: can dmg be mounted?
[06:11] <NiS> as i am typing in empathys window, when the line reaches the limit, instead of having a new line on the chat window the window keeps expanding to the left, and out of the screen! whats this!
[06:12] <NiS> but i disabled the other plugin!
[06:12] <usr_> hellok, I just upgrade to the new ubuntu version. I used to have several icons in the menu bar. How can I restore them? Also, how can I move the new bar to the right side of the screen instead of the left?
[06:12] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Run this in a terminal then pastebin the new contents of /etc/apt/sources.lst: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-bak && sudo sed -i 's#http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu/#http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/#g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:12] <r0fs3ck5> ActionParsnip: I've hear dof people mounting .dmg  I will try it now.
[06:12] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: i am going to do it right now, but just wanted to see if people were experiencing problems, as i won't be able to back up my programs, but will back up reports and see what happens
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> r0fs3ck5: you also forgot the mount point, soit won'twork ;)
[06:13] <r0fs3ck5> ActionParsnip: :-O
[06:13] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: I'll be away for a few minutes.
[06:14] <r0fs3ck5> ActionParsnip: Yes you are right.  I need some sleep.
[06:14] <visual1ce> hi
[06:14] <WXZ> how do I connect to my wired network through the terminal?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: do you use dhcp?
[06:14] <visual1ce> i have some mp3 lectures that wont play in ubuntu but play in windows 7... how should i go about finding out why?
[06:14] <WXZ> ActionParsnip: I don't know
[06:15] <EGuinn> visual1ce: google search for MP3 codecs for Ubuntu
[06:15] <NiS> you probably dont have the plugin for mp3 installed
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: when you plug in the wire, do you expect it to configure automatically?
[06:15] <visual1ce> opens up in vlc but no audio from the speakers
[06:15] <visual1ce> doesn't vlc have mp3 codec?
[06:15] <WXZ> ActionParsnip: sometimes it has configured automatically
[06:15] <NiS> as i am typing in empathys window, when the line reaches the limit, instead of having a new line on the chat window the window keeps expanding to the left, and out of the screen! whats this?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> visual1ce: run:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:15] <usr_> how can I add an extra menu bar?
[06:15] <EGuinn> visual1ce: Probably don't have the audio drivers configed properly, try googling ubuntu audio drivers
[06:15] <usr_> how can I add an extra menu bar in ubuntu 11.04?
[06:15] <visual1ce> how can i find out what codecs i have installed on my system?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> visual1ce: no it doesn't, you need to add it
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: try:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[06:16] <EGuinn> visual1ce: Are you running natty narwhal?
[06:16] <visual1ce> nope maverick
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: ifthere is a dhcp server around (home grade routers provide this service too), it willconfigure for you
[06:16] <EGuinn> visual1ce: okay, just wondering.
[06:16] <intok> 11.04 w/ Gnime 2, how can I get my scroll bars back? They are still thereish, but they aren't visible, and changing the theme doesn't make them visible either
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | visual1ce
[06:17] <EGuinn> ubottu: MP3 is not a free format?
[06:17] <WXZ> ActionParsnip: and then how would I connect to it once it's configured?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: it is connected, you can ping and update as you wish
[06:18] <lorenz> ActionParsnip, I was thinking of installing the July 21 entry of this : http://ubuntucrack.blogspot.com/
[06:18] <WXZ> ActionParsnip: No DHCPOFFERS received.
[06:18] <WXZ> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[06:18] <crackguy> I am unable to ping any IP on the network. here is the reply: http://paste.debian.net/116418/ - could someone please help
[06:18] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605060/
[06:18] <WXZ> is that bad?
[06:19] <Sir_Gabriel> !register channel
[06:19] <Sir_Gabriel> !register
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: are the lights around the NIC flashing?
[06:21] <NiS> as i am typing in empathys window, when the line reaches the limit, instead of having a new line on the chat window the window keeps expanding to the left, and out of the screen! whats this!
[06:22] <EGuinn> NiS: Natty?
[06:22] <NiS> yes
[06:22] <WXZ> ActionParsnip: no, do all NICs flash though?
[06:22] <EGuinn> NiS: Mind you, 11.04 is still beta.
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: I believe it is standard, check the connection on both sides
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: its not
[06:22] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: Really?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: its released, therefor not beta
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !11.04
[06:23] <NiS> it is?
[06:23] <NiS> exactly!
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: think about the versioning numbers, then look at the calendar
[06:23] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta
[06:23] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: I was getting the information off of that URL.
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[06:24] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: Hm. They should take down the beta page then. That had me confused. Sorry.
[06:24] <NiS> okay, i dont mind, someone just answer the question! Its so weird, the windows expands as i type
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: natty was released in 20(11) in April (4)th month...11.04
[06:24] <saidian> hello all, fairly new Ubuntu user here. Got a question regarding accessing my Mac shares on with Ubuntu Server. Can anyone help/point me in the right direction?
[06:24] <EGuinn> NiS: I cannot help you, sorry. I don't have my natty in front of me.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: no worries dude :)
[06:25] <EGuinn> NiS: I was just under the apparently rediculous impression that natty was beta, and that you should report the bug. But Mr ActionParsnip corrected me quite well.
[06:25] <NiS> okay. can i downgrade to 10.10/ this is giving me a lot of problems!
[06:26] <NiS> ActionParsnip: can you tell me?
[06:26] <gabriel_> hi Is this working?
[06:26] <EGuinn> gabriel_: Yes.
[06:26] <codex84> u cant download u gotta install
[06:26] <NiS> and my laptops scroll pad wont work either!
[06:27] <NiS> ccsm has my top panel blank out everytime i do something!
[06:27] <gabriel_> thanks
[06:27] <EGuinn> gabriel_: You have a question?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> NiS: what make and model is the system (Bets its a Vaio)
[06:27] <EGuinn> NiS: What computer do you have?
[06:27] <NiS> yes!
[06:27] <NiS> its a prob with them?
[06:28] <EGuinn> NiS: I believe so...
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> NiS: add the boot option:  i8024.nopnp=1
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> NiS: stupid Vaios need the option to make thier touchpads work
[06:28] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: They use a completely different assembly?
[06:28] <NiS> huh? wait, i am totally new to ubuntu. how do i do that?
[06:29] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: Natty has a GRUB editor, right?
[06:29] <van7hu> hello our channel
[06:29] <EGuinn> van7hu: Good morning.
[06:29] <van7hu> nah, good afternoon
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> NiS: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub   change:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8024.nopnp=1"   save the new file, close gedit then run:  sudo update-grub     reboot to test
[06:29] <van7hu> EGuinn, are you in England?
[06:29] <boxbeatsy> hi, can anyone help me install sun-java6-plugin.  I'm getting a really long list of errors, and I'm not sure where to start.  https://gist.github.com/17c67af3d56d193728aa
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: it has the grub files which you edit, then run: sudo upate-grub
[06:30] <EGuinn> van7hu: lol no. I live in alaska.
[06:30] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: Hm. I thought there was a tool that helped you with that in 10.10. I could be mistaken though.
[06:30] <van7hu> EGuinn, is it cold now?
[06:30] <NiS> boxbeatsy: if you want jdk, (i just did!) then just go to synaptic package manager and download it from there
[06:30] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: He said he was a new user, command line might be a bit much, so I just thought to help.
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: not sure, I've always editted the files as is.There may be one. I just don't know of it
[06:30] <EGuinn> van7hu: Not really at all.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: fair point though
[06:31] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605060/
[06:31] <stlrocker> hiya
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: when you have folks guiding, its dead easy :)
[06:31] <visual1ce> how is natty - any issues or is it ok to migrate? should i upgrade or do a fresh install?
[06:31] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: lol
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: if vaios sed STANDARD touchpads instead of weird junk, it'd be easier
[06:32] <boxbeatsy> NiS: so i tried, but i'm getting a realy long list of errors - https://gist.github.com/17c67af3d56d193728aa
[06:32] <EGuinn> visual1ce: I don't really know. Living in Alaska has perks, but slow downloads are not one of them. I don't have natty on my Desktop.
[06:32] <van7hu> I am having some problem with virtual disk image and the real one, what is the difference? if I do "times 512 0", did I have a sector?
[06:32] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: I don't like all the nonconformity that comes with some things... >=(
[06:32] <visual1ce> alaska - WOW!
[06:32] <blaine_> if my vmlinuz symlink is broken, could that be why I'm getting kernel panics?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> visual1ce: natty is fine here
[06:33] <visual1ce> ill wait till end of this semester
[06:33] <intok> How would I go about debugging waking from hibernation?
[06:33] <EGuinn> visual1ce: Yeah, it is a cool place to be.
[06:33] <EGuinn> intok: What problems are you having?
[06:33] <visual1ce> what do you do there?
[06:33] <cybergig22> Question: How do I set a default startup process in xfce? As soon as I switched desktops it took off my network manager at loadup. Was using knetworkmanager
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> intok: what is the issue?
[06:33] <EGuinn> visual1ce: I live.
[06:33] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Do *not* install any packages right now.
[06:33] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: What is the output of "lsb_release -a"?
[06:33] <visual1ce> can you sleep? isn't it like always daylight there?
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: If you make a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart   it will be ran
[06:34] <EGuinn> visual1ce: It is almost 10 PM here, no sunset in sight. Does not bother me though.
[06:34] <visual1ce> my goodness
[06:34] <EGuinn> intok: Hello?
[06:34] <EGuinn> visual1ce: I also have a rather large mountain right out my front window...
[06:34] <van7hu> nah
[06:34] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Five lines, none longer than 30 characters or so. You want me to stick with the pastebin?
[06:34] <blaine_> my root file system is on an LVM, and I'm getting kernel panics that say unable to mount on unknown-block(0,0)
[06:35] <visual1ce> secluded or in a populated area?
[06:35] <van7hu> EGuinn, cool, I like mountain
[06:35] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Yes.
[06:35] <gabriel_> OKay, I can't log in again...
[06:35] <blaine_> and I also notice my /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old symlinks are broken
[06:35] <cybergig22> .desktop ActionParsnip ?
[06:35] <NiS> k. booting to check if my vaio's scroll works... be right back
[06:35] <visual1ce> does the US govt pay you to stay there? :P
[06:35] <stlrocker> updated to natty from 10.04/10.10.... "custom administrator" has weather in time drop down  however I added a new user account  just has time preferences  no date or weather in dropdown choices
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: that folder sets the things to run at login
[06:35] <EGuinn> NiS: good luck.
[06:35] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: In that case, http://paste.ubuntu.com/605064/
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: I'll pastebin you a sample
[06:35] <van7hu> EGuinn, my province has many, but now I am living in capital, no mountains, how sad
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: right after chromium updates
[06:36] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: How long have you been using ubuntu?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Did you change the distribution in /etc/apt/sources.list to natty from maverick yourself?
[06:36] <intok> EGuinn ActionParsnip If I put the box in hibernation when I try to rewake it everything starts up, till I should be prompted with the locked screen, but I get nothing but a blank screen. Getting sleep would be an acceptable outcome though, since I've never gotten it to enter sleep, only hibernation.
[06:36] <EGuinn> van7hu: That is sad... I climb mountains all the time.
[06:36] <cybergig22> Alright
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: Ubuntu...since Gutsy.  For whatever my memory's worth.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !ot | visual1ce
[06:37] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Ok. It needs to be changed back.
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: how about you?
[06:37] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: gksudo gedit?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: http://pastebin.com/Dc9UAFcZ
[06:38] <NiSarg> nopse. i made the splash changes, scroller still doesnt work
[06:38] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: I started with Linux Mint 7 a while ago. Then I got myself an old comp, and set up Ubuntu 10.04 server on it, and I have not turned back since.
[06:38] <saidian> does anyone know how to access mac shares from Ubuntu Server command line?
[06:38] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: run "sudo sed -i s/natty/maverick/g /etc/apt/sources.list" and pastebin the new contents.
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> saidian: how are they shared?
[06:38] <mean_admin> can I create iptables rules that use DNS lookup instead of solely use IP ? or do I need to write a script ?
[06:38] <EGuinn> saidian: what do you mean mac shares?
[06:38] <intok> EGuinn ActionParsnip No, I'm using the unofficial PowerPC build on an old Mac, it's the only box I currently have... 10.10 worked well on it though
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> intok: sounds like a regression bug then
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: note that the files aren't marked executable :)
[06:39] <saidian> from my imac, shared using system preferences, file sharing w/ AFP & SMB
[06:39] <NiSarg> ActionParsnip: The splash command thing didnt work. NO scrolling as yet!
[06:39] <blaine_> hey guys, any ideas as to why a root fs on an LVM won't mount?
[06:39] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605066/ Look good to you?
[06:39] <EGuinn> saidian: so it is networked file sharing.
[06:39] <saidian> yes
[06:39] <EGuinn> blaine_: you running server edition?
[06:39] <blaine_> yes
[06:40] <intok> EGuinn ActionParsnip sounds like allot of that then, since I still can't make the scroll bars appear in Gnome2. Unity can't run on this old hardware
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> NiSarg: wrong target?
[06:40] <cybergig22> ah so wheres the .config folder? in the home folder of my user account?
[06:40] <NiSarg> ??
[06:40] <EGuinn> saidian: Check out some articles on file sharing with ubuntu. Search some on google. There should be some good tutorials.
[06:40] <stlrocker> anyone up for question on date and weather in natty classic gnome?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: it's a hidden folder (names starting with a periodare hidden)
[06:40] <EGuinn> intok: that sucks... =P
[06:40] <EGuinn> cybergig22: use ls -a
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: if you are using nautilus, you can press CTRL+H to show hidden files
[06:41] <blaine_> I'm on a livecd, and can mount my LVM just fine manually
[06:41] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out line 5 ("deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ ...").
[06:41] <EGuinn> blaine_: 11.04?
[06:41] <blaine_> yeah, for the livecd
[06:41] <blaine_> not what's installed though
[06:41] <intok> EGuinn ActionParsnip well they're still there-ish, if I poke around at ere they should be I can grab them, just can't see them
[06:41] <EGuinn> blaine_: Do you have any important data?
[06:41] <saidian> EGuinn: I did that's what's lead me here. I found a couple things on open-afp and something on samba but don't know what the best is. (also found some stuff on 'mount' but that didn't work for me
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: or you can just run:  gedit ~/.config/autostart/name.desktop    and the blank file will open ready for editting
[06:42] <blaine_> EGuinn: yes
[06:42] <EGuinn> saidian: I will look about.
[06:42] <datakid> do people recommend squid or squid3?
[06:42] <EGuinn> blaine_: Well, can you get to the grub config file?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> !poll | datakid
[06:42] <NiSarg> ActionParsnip: can you reiterae on the steps. what does wrong target mean? i dont think i did anything out of the steps you gave
[06:42] <blaine_> EGuinn: where should it be?
[06:42] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Done.
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> datakid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid seems to hav a nice guide
[06:43] <datakid> ubottu, ok, thanks. I'll rephrase my question
[06:43] <EGuinn> blaine_: Give me one sec...
[06:43] <datakid> what is the advantage that squid2 would have over squid3
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> NiSarg: you've lost me.  Was I helping you ?
[06:43] <EGuinn> saidian: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353584
[06:43] <cybergig22> So how do I make a .desktop file >.> I have never done that..
[06:43] <datakid> ActionParsnip, tx
[06:43] <fastveg> could anyone help me out with a couple simple ubuntu server issues?
[06:43] <jo-erlend> fastveg, #ubuntu-server
[06:43] <blaine_> ah, I think I found it
[06:43] <blaine_> EGuinn:
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: its just a text file, with the special file extension...
[06:43] <fastveg> ah ty, jo-erlend
[06:44] <EGuinn> blaine_: it should be under /boot/grub/
[06:44] <madsailor> I am getting a 'Package is of bad quality' error when installing virtualbox 4.0.6 (PUEL directly from the vbox site) on Ubuntu 11.04.  Has anyone else had this error or know of a fix?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> cybergig22: the pastebin I gave shows the layout, just populate it as you need
[06:44] <EGuinn> madsailor: is it a new install?
[06:44] <madsailor> yes
[06:44] <blaine_> EGuinn: not there, neither in /etc/default/grub
[06:44] <EGuinn> madsailor: do sudo apt-get update, then try again.
[06:44] <EGuinn> blaine_: odd... have you tried ls -a
[06:45] <cybergig22> alright
[06:45] <Sir_Gabriel> Anyone know why my file will not execute from another drive? I have good permissions and get a good ls on it.
[06:45] <blaine_> EGuinn: yup
[06:45] <blaine_> no grub folder to be found
[06:45] <madsailor> EGuinn, I have but am doing again for good measure. It is not the version from the repo btw
[06:45] <EGuinn> blaine_: Odd. Google for the GRUB file location with Ubuntu. That should help.
[06:46] <EGuinn> madsailor: That could be the problem.
[06:46] <saidian> EGuinn: That's good stuff. Didn't happen to run accress anything CLI, did you. The link was for a GUI connection.
[06:46] <blaine_> looks like my grub is nuked
[06:46] <EGuinn> saidian: I just took a quick look.
[06:46] <Sir_Gabriel> what's CLI mean?
[06:46] <EGuinn> blaine: That... oh dear.
[06:47] <klia> hey guys
[06:47] <EGuinn> blaine_: You do have a live CD though?
[06:47] <saidian> Sir_Gabriel: Command Line Interface
[06:47] <madsailor> EGuinn, the version in the repo is OSE....different licence with limited features.  I need the version from the Vbox site..PUEL
[06:47] <klia> what is going on today?
[06:47] <blaine_> EGuinn: yeah
[06:47] <lorenz> greetings all, I have ubuntu 1.04 and I cannot enable the wifi network option on my gnome gui. My computer has02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) card and upon install i worked ootb about 6 months ago--about 4 days ago, wifi no longer worked. the blue light is on, but 'enable wireless' is greyed over--any ideas?
[06:47] <lorenz> 11.04
[06:47] <EGuinn> blaine_: You should be able to rescue the system.
[06:47] <blaine_> I'm hoping it's just as easy as re-installing grub >.<
[06:47] <sain> need help with wireless network. keeps crashing  and only way to fix is reboot.
[06:47] <EGuinn> madsailor: You have good reasons then. I would not know the problem.
[06:47] <EGuinn> sain: does it give any error messages before it dies horridly?
[06:48] <EGuinn> madsailor: sorry.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: OK. Try "gksudo software-properties-gtk" again and change from the US server to the main one (as a test) and see if it modifies /etc/apt/sources.list appropriately.
[06:48] <blaine_> I'm not sure, but I think I have to mount the root fs, and /proc, and chroot, and then sudo apt-get install grub... and configure as necessary
[06:48] <sain> no it does not. just hangs
[06:48] <klia> I placed my 11.04 on my sony vaio cd rom but can't get it to boot (un-compression error), I am running 10.04 , any idea?
[06:48] <madsailor> EGuinn, thanks for trying :)
[06:48] <NiSarg> just asking, in hte future, if all these bugs get solved, they will be available in the update manager right?
[06:48] <EGuinn> madsailor: np
[06:49] <justen5342> @lorenz... is there a switch for your wifi on you pc?..(is it a laptop?)
[06:49] <Jordan_U> blaine_: You do *not* want to "apt-get install grub", that would install grub legacy.
[06:49] <sain> Any other way to reset wireless networking without reboot?
[06:49] <lorenz> justen5342, yep, the light is blue
[06:49] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Clicking "Close" gives me a popup saying "The information about available software is out-of-date," blah blah blah.
[06:49] <EGuinn> saidian: http://www.kremalicious.com/2008/06/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/ <-- That may help.
[06:50] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Can you try booting the server (without the liveCD) and holding shift during boot to get to the grub menu, then at the grub menu select an older kernel?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Allow it to update.
[06:50] <justen5342> ok .. just wondering... i freaked..  and took a couple hrs but had a switch on the "laptop"
[06:50] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: ...But /etc/apt/sources.list does appear to have been modified.
[06:50] <jawnv6> my software center downloads are going very slowly, could I have something misconfigured?
[06:51] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Good. Did it update successfully?
[06:51] <blaine_> mmh... not sure, if I'm having a kernel panic, does that say anything about whether or not grub is broken?
[06:51] <EGuinn> jawnv6: are you using the standard repos?
[06:51] <cybergig22> i'm going to see it it worked as soon as synaptic is done lol..
[06:51] <justen5342> @lorenz  have you tried a "wrapper"?
[06:51] <jawnv6> didn't change anything, added a ppa though
[06:51] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Not sure how to test that...
[06:51] <Jordan_U> blaine_: It says that grub is not broken (though there is a chance that it's misconfigured, that'f fairly low).
[06:51] <cybergig22> Thank you ActionParsnip
[06:51] <EGuinn> jawnv6: there, that is your problem. The standard repos are very slow.
[06:52] <EGuinn> jawnv6: look for alternates, and you should be okay.
[06:52] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Please pastebin your current /etc/apt/sources.list one last time, then pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update".
[06:52] <blaine_> I'll try it, although, isn't it pointless if my grub folder is entirely gone?
[06:52] <jawnv6> ok, fantastic, I'll look into that
[06:52] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: If both of those look good then you should be ready to upgrade.
[06:52] <EGuinn> blaine_: That would be a problem.
[06:52] <lorenz> justen5342, no I have not--the install worked out of the box six months ago--but then stopped about 4 days ago...you think a wrapper is the right choice?
[06:52] <EGuinn> blaine_: So I suggest trying the repair option on the install.
[06:52] <Jordan_U> blaine_: I doubt that your grub directory is gone.
[06:53] <saidian> EGuinn: Hum, getting warmer. That is for access the server from a mac. I'm trying to access the mac from Ubuntu.
[06:53] <blaine_> hmm... this is interesting, when I chroot into my root fs, the initrd.img symlink is broken
[06:53] <EGuinn> saidian: That should give you the proper info, though. Let me take another look to the google machine!
[06:54] <justen5342> lorenz.. you never know.. if you updated, i have problems each time.. . (downloading one now)
[06:54] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Ubuntu doesn't use initrd or vmlinuz symlinks.
[06:54] <blaine_> even if you're using LVM?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Yes.
[06:55] <justen5342> i think it's "NDISWRAPPER" that works with all most any wireless card..(but you need the driver)
[06:55] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: All right, then. /etc/apt/sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605070/ apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605071/
[06:55] <EGuinn> saidian: Try samba out. Google it.
[06:55] <saidian> EGuinn: That is a good site though (saved it to my bookmarks.)
[06:55] <EGuinn> saidian: http://www.moixo.com/es/sharing-files-folders-from-ubuntu-to-mac-os-x <-- this will help you with Samba.
[06:55] <saidian> EGuinn: Ok, thanks. Will take a look. =-) Thanks for the help.
[06:56] <EGuinn> saidian: No problem, it is the whole reason I joined this channel, you know =P
[06:56] <lorenz> justen5342, do you think a re-install might fix it?
[06:56] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: Looks good. Try upgrading (via update-manager or do-release-upgrade).
[06:56] <blaine_> I do see a folder called /etc/grub.d, although it just looks like a bunch of scripts
[06:56] <blaine_> no config file to be found
[06:56] <blaine_> doing a find . -name "grub.conf" now
[06:56] <Jordan_U> blaine_: It's /etc/default/grub.
[06:57] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Fingers crossed!
[06:57] <blaine_> Jordan_U: no grub file there
[06:57] <justen5342> @lorenz ... VERY POSSIBLE.. maybe some packages didn't get installed right..
[06:57] <EGuinn> blaine_: That sounds really bad indeed.
[06:57] <EGuinn> Jordan_U: You can just reinstall GRUB, right?
[06:58] <justen5342> @lorenz.. but i'd have to know what PC you're working with
[06:58] <Jordan_U> EGuinn: Yes, but I'd like to first know why it's not installed currently (if in fact it isn't installed).
[06:59] <EGuinn> Jordan_U: That is a good point, though. While you could probably just rm it out of existence, you would really have to try.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> EGuinn: The fact that blaine_ is getting a kernel panic means that grub is successfully loading the kernel, so it doesn't sound like that is the root of the problem.
[06:59] <EGuinn> Jordan_U: If it is indeed a kernel panic... It may not be.
[06:59] <lorenz> justen5342, a compaq presario cq60
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> blaine_: run:   gedit /etc/default/grub
[07:02] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: He says that file does not exist.
[07:02] <justen5342> lorenz, how did you install ubuntu?.. from boot?.. or with the windows "install disk"?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: maybe s/he is using grub legacy then
[07:03] <lorenz> justen5342, ubuntu live cd with the gui
[07:03] <EGuinn> Well all, have fun solving problems, I am off.
[07:03] <justen5342> Lorenz, is this the first time you installed it?
[07:03] <blaine_> would it be bad to just chroot into my root fs, and update to the latest distribution?
[07:04] <lorenz> justen5342, ever?
[07:04] <blaine_> and cross my fingers
[07:04] <justen5342> lorenz, on this computer?..
[07:04] <lorenz> justen5342, on this computer, yes
[07:05] <sheshark> where are you from?
[07:05] <justen5342> lorenz, i would attempt a re-install.. ..
[07:05] <ShayGuy> Jordan_U: Looks like I've got about 20 minutes left on "Getting new packages," so I think I'll log off for tonight. Thanks so, so much for all your help!
[07:05] <Jordan_U> ShayGuy: You're welcome.
[07:06] <yagoo> anyone can help me test this irc?
[07:06] <yagoo> nm
[07:06] <TychoQuad> Hi, I get a lockup during boot after upgrading to 11.04 64bit, running older kernel works.
[07:08] <unity_compiz> hey guys, i uninstalled compiz and nothing happend, but after a reboot the tob bar and the left bar was away i dont have acces to terminal i could just open the folders
[07:08] <unity_compiz> does someone know how to access terminal now?
[07:08] <blaine_> weird... update-initramfs says: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-30-generic - but uname -r says: 2.6.38-8-generic
[07:09] <Kliment> Hello, I'm trying to adjust the notification timeout
[07:09] <tbf> is there a good way to automatically mirror __parts__ of another ppa?
[07:09] <Kliment> There seems to be no effect to changing .notify-osd and pkilling notify-osd
[07:09] <Macak> Hello. Regarding IRCD-HYBRID.....does anybody have any idea why ICECHAT is the only IRC Client which allows me to login to my server. All other clients (Chatzilla, mIRC, Smuxi) all give me LAGTIMER warning, then I am disconnect.
[07:10] <madsailor> Where should I go to urge/help with inclusion of an updated package to the repo that isn't maintained directly by canonical but 'Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community.'?
[07:10] <Kliment> madsailor: Try to find out who packaged it and contact them
[07:10] <ma4oro> kaj si toi
[07:10] <ferguson> eve sum
[07:10] <unity_compiz> hey guys, i uninstalled compiz and nothing happend, but after a reboot the tob bar and the left bar was away i dont have acces to terminal i could just open the folders
[07:10] <unity_compiz> does someone know how to access terminal now?
[07:11] <madsailor> ok thx Kliment
[07:11] <tychoquad> hi, i get a lockup on boot after updating to 11.04 64bit, running older kernel allows me to boot, how can i fix this?
[07:12] <blaine_> is grub (GNU GRUB 0.97) legacy grub?
[07:15] <tychoquad> hi, i get a lockup on boot after updating to 11.04 64bit, running older kernel allows me to boot, how can i fix this?
[07:15] <unity_compiz> hey guys, i uninstalled compiz and nothing happend, but after a reboot the tob bar and the left bar was away i dont have acces to terminal i could just open the folders
[07:15] <unity_compiz> does someone know how to access terminal now?
[07:16] <Kliment> unity_compiz: Try alt-f2
[07:16] <yagoo> unity_compiz, access the terminal? i'm sure bin laden knew
[07:16] <Kliment> unity_compiz: alt-f2, type in gnome-terminal
[07:16] <yagoo> Kliment, LOL
[07:17] <MagePsycho> Greeting guys
[07:17] <MagePsycho> i want windows like toolbar in ubuntu
[07:17] <yagoo> MagePsycho, your name sounds dangerous psycho
[07:17] <MagePsycho> i am using 11.x version
[07:17] <MagePsycho> yes i am Magento developer btw :)
[07:17] <yagoo> MagePsycho, ?? look for the gnome themes community driven..
[07:18] <unity_compiz> Kliment alt-f2 doesent work
[07:18] <MagePsycho> can't i just use some ultilities only instead of theme
[07:18] <MagePsycho> since i am new to ubuntu .. just switched from windowz
[07:18] <MagePsycho> i am feeling very difficultiies in file browsing
[07:18] <yagoo> MagePsycho, oh really... that's good news
[07:18] <routh> unity_compiz: if you are referring to the teminal drop back from x, then use CTRL+ALT + F1 (or F2 r F3)
[07:19] <yagoo> MagePsycho, what's hard about file browsing...
[07:19] <mrluksom> MagePsycho: Are you using unity or GNOME?
[07:19] <MagePsycho> no idea what that means. i am newbie
[07:19] <MagePsycho> i installed ubuntu desktop
[07:19] <dehimer> hi
[07:20] <FlowV> ye i guess ur Using gnome
[07:20] <dehimer> te
[07:20] <dehimer> yes, right
[07:20] <mrluksom> MagePsycho: Many find Classic GNOME easier, try logging out and selecting that.
[07:21] <FlowV> of course gnome is the best
[07:21] <MagePsycho> oh.. i didn't have any option for that
[07:21] <MagePsycho> when booted.. i just see the login screen
[07:21] <MagePsycho> where to choose the option for classic gnom
[07:21] <MagePsycho> e
[07:21] <gaymish> At the bottom there is a login options and you select it there
[07:21] <FlowV> MagePsycho£ºye
[07:22] <ferguson> ima makedonec?
[07:22] <dehimer> guys, what ports are open on the router except for irc 6667-6669?
[07:22] <MagePsycho> Docky?
[07:22] <MagePsycho> some  friend mentioned this
[07:23] <yagoo> dehimer, the router may implement identd for some irc servers requesting back to the client
[07:23] <Arney> My lappy is stalls when I take it out of my room... any ideas? I didn't have this problem on windows.
[07:24] <arune> when does the uds keynote start? 9 local hungary time?
[07:24] <dehimer> yagoo, thanks!
[07:24] <mrluksom> Mage: never heard of rocky.
[07:24] <Arney> When I have it hooked up to a monitor, a keyboard and a mouse with the lid closed it's happy.
[07:24] <celthunder> Arney: intel graphics?
[07:24] <Arney> celthunder: yes.
[07:24] <MagePsycho> which toolbar do you use?
[07:24] <MagePsycho> or you don't
[07:24] <celthunder> Arney: it's an acpi bug i think....theres fixes for it
[07:25] <blaine_> after I chroot into my root fs that I've mounted via liveCD, I no longer see my hard drives, which were previously listed as /dev/sda[1,2,5]
[07:25] <MagePsycho> i want like this.. when window is minimized then i can get to that easily
[07:25] <Arney> celthunder: acpi... can't I disable that on the bios?
[07:25] <dehimer> who know irc channel of django community?
[07:25] <dehimer> or python
[07:25] <blaine_> err, I could no longer see my one hard drive, or its partitions
[07:25] <yagoo> dehimer, django community site should say..
[07:25] <celthunder> Arney: i wouldn't
[07:25] <blaine_> why would /dev/sda be missing after a chroot?
[07:25] <mrluksom> You are describing classic gnome, are you sure the drop box is not there on the login screen?
[07:26] <Arney> celthunder: Thanks, I'll look into the bug.
[07:26] <yagoo> blaine_, u doing a livecd boot then chroot?
[07:26] <blaine_> yagoo: yessir
[07:26] <yagoo> blaine_, google 'ubuntu rescue wiki bind"
[07:26] <blaine_> I also mounted the virtual file systems
[07:27] <yagoo> blaine_, u should type "mount --bind" << similar commands before chroot
[07:27] <blaine_> yagoo: did that for dev, dev/pts, proc, and sys
[07:27] <blaine_> I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT
[07:27] <yagoo> blaine_, can u pastebin it? (exit chroot, type mount, and pastebin it)
[07:28] <iggy> Can someone help me get my launch bar icons to work? I think it's a unity problem.
[07:28] <blaine_> yagoo: http://pastebin.com/XVj5GWEu
[07:28] <Kliment>  /wc
[07:28] <Kliment> Oops
[07:29] <MagePsycho> yes mrliksom
[07:29] <MagePsycho> i am using ubuntu desktop 11.x
[07:29] <MagePsycho> the latest one
[07:30] <iggy> Anyone know how to dig into the properties for launch bar icons and re-establish the proper command line
[07:30] <yagoo> blaine_, ur mountpoint is /mnt/root , not /mnt ...
[07:30] <p_res> iggy; what are you trying to do?
[07:30] <yagoo> (/dev/mapper/attila-root on /mnt/root type ext3 (rw))
[07:31] <Laptop11-04> hello i have a problem with my wireless card. when i installed ubuntu the card was set as UNCLAIMED under "lshw -C network"  i cant seem to get it to work, i even tried to install a windows driver on it with ndisgtk  but that failed. this card works under other linux distros. why wont ubuntu use it  ??
[07:31] <iggy> p_res, I'm trying to get my firefox and thunderbird icons to work
[07:31] <p_res> iggy: what happens when you click them?
[07:31] <blaine_> yagoo: I didn't think that mattered
[07:31] <yagoo> p_res, clickhead question.. it doesn't work :p
[07:31] <A[D]minS> nginx question ,  server setup has similar to this  setup - > upstream node100 { server x:100; server y:100; } the locations { proxy_pass https://x:100/; } . if server x is down , then proxy retrieve error (504 Gateway Time-Out)
[07:31] <yagoo> blaine_, redo those commands.. but use /mnt/root and not /mnt
[07:32] <A[D]minS> is it applicable to put server y also in proxy_pass ? which means if server X is down then it try with Server Y ?
[07:32] <iggy> p_res, they just look like they are going to work, but nothing happens
[07:32] <yagoo> blaine_, u can unmount to undo those mount statments
[07:32] <yagoo> blaine_, or simply continue.. and just add those mount commands with /mnt/root
[07:32] <p_res> iggy: try command for the application in a terminal.
[07:32] <blaine_> ooh
[07:32] <blaine_> I see what you mean
[07:33] <blaine_> so it would need to be /mnt/root/proc if I wanted it the correct way
[07:33] <yagoo> blaine_, they're virtual anyways.. and ur chrooting to /mnt/root so /mnt/dev wont be seen anyways
[07:33] <iggy> p_res, i did, that works.. I need to get the properties of the icons to be such that they point to the right file I'm guessing
[07:33] <p_res> iggy: also try alt+f2 and then type application you wish to launch.
[07:33] <blaine_> or the other way around
[07:33] <mean_admin> could one make changes through iptables using sed ?
[07:33] <blaine_> ah
[07:33] <blaine_> gotcha
[07:33] <p_res> iggy: they should be default.
[07:33] <yagoo> blaine_, yep
[07:33] <iggy> p_res, what should be default?
[07:34] <p_res> iggy: command options to the directed file.
[07:34] <iggy> p_res, so if they are default than why don't they work????
[07:34] <p_res> iggy: no deal. unity still to new for me to answer that.
[07:34] <yagoo> blaine_, the mount proc may have already been done by the live cd (there's /proc on /mnt/root/proc type proc (rw) )
[07:35] <blaine_> ah
[07:35] <blaine_> interesting
[07:35] <iggy> p_res, well do you know what folder contains the icons for the launch bar?
[07:35] <p_res> iggy: nope.
[07:35] <gaymish> iggy: have you tried removing them and readding them from your search results
[07:35] <yagoo> blaine_, btw is there a rescue option with the bootcd ?
[07:35] <iggy> is it like the start menu in windows maybe?
[07:35] <yagoo> blaine_, as i thought once the rescue would do these binds automatically
[07:35] <p_res> iggy: in what way?
[07:36] <blaine_> uh oh
[07:36] <blaine_> /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[07:36] <p_res> iggy: perhaps try what gaymish  suggested.
[07:36] <yagoo> blaine_, what command u trying?
[07:36] <woss> hello guys, i'm just wondering does anybody had problem with ubuntu 10/11 to connect to Microsoft Vpn? thanks
[07:36] <p_res> iggy: drag new icons onto the unity launch bar.
[07:36] <ma4oro> angel
[07:36] <iggy> gaymish, I haven't tried that yet...  See in windows I'm used to being able to access the start menu folder directly from the explorer, I can also look at the shortcut file location
[07:37] <yagoo> woss, maybe that msvpn particular version is using ipsec
[07:37] <ma4oro> lkjn;lkm ;lk
[07:37] <woss> yagoo, if it's using ipsec what then
[07:37] <yagoo> woss, the client too? or maybe even pptp
[07:37] <p_res> iggy: i don't think unity works that way.
[07:38] <p_res> iggy: forget windows. linux is not windows.
[07:38] <yagoo> woss, ud have to check ur winbloze docs for that
[07:38] <gaymish> iggy: yeah i moved away from unity because it became frustrating like that and I am now back to gnome after similar frustrations to yours. from memory you could right click the icon and check its command
[07:38] <woss> yagoo, i think they said it's pptp
[07:38] <yagoo> woss, winbloze u gotta rtfm :p
[07:38] <adminewb> Having difficulty here establishing cause for my AMD64 based system to lock up booting that architecture for natty; tried to loopback mount a debian live squeeze amd64 as another data point, and so far there it succeeds to premount stage, but fails to find the live squashfs to mount so I end up at a busybox prompt; someone have diagnostic ideas?
[07:38] <iggy> well unity doesn't have a properties in the right click menu, which is really really dumb
[07:38] <woss> yagoo, :)
[07:38] <yagoo> blaine_, /dev/sda is not a partition
[07:40] <woss> yagoo, i have really old router, maybe it's not allowing that type of conn or what ... :?!?!$%
[07:40] <woss> :)
[07:40] <gaymish> iggy: adding new links to the menu worked?? like a link to terminal or something?
[07:40] <p_res> iggy: try right clicking in the regular application menu.
[07:40] <yagoo> woss, it could be that.. try seeing if u can update the router firmware.. and look into ur router doc for vpn support
[07:40] <iggy> gaymish, i just added xchat and it's launch icon works fine ... arghh
[07:40] <woss> yagoo, THANKS!!! :)
[07:40] <iggy> p_res, ok
[07:40] <p_res> iggy: try with non-working ones.
[07:41] <yagoo> woss, if u suspect the router.. u can try using DMZ for the client as a last resort
[07:41] <iggy> p_res, in the regular apps window nothing happens at all when I right click...
[07:41] <yagoo> woss, DMZ is insecured so do some homework on that(the client's address should be static for eg)
[07:41] <p_res> iggy: ok.
[07:42] <woss> yagoo, oki, thanks for advices, i appriciate, i'll give it a try
[07:42] <p_res> iggy: did you try adding new icons for the ones that don't work?
[07:42] <yagoo> woss, DMZ (option in the router that is.. DMZ may relate to something else.. but this is what i meant)
[07:43] <iggy> p_res, yeah, I dropped a new firefox in the launch bar from the apps window and it still doesn't work, actually the icon in the apps window doesn't work either!
[07:43] <yagoo> woss, (which should allow to demilitarize the linux client if that option is there)
[07:43] <p_res> iggy: no idea mate. sorry.
[07:43] <Laptop11-04> hello i have a problem with my wireless card. when i installed ubuntu the card was set as UNCLAIMED under "lshw -C network"  i cant seem to get it to work, i even tried to install a windows driver on it with ndisgtk  but that failed. this card works under other linux distros. why wont ubuntu use it  ??
[07:43] <gaymish> iggy, sounds odd. u cant open firefox any more?
[07:43] <yagoo> Laptop11-04, u need ndiswrapper
[07:43] <iggy> p_res, the oooonly way to get firefox to turn on is through a terminal window... and it reads a funky error message
[07:44] <p_res> gaymish. is suspect PICNIC
[07:44] <yagoo> Laptop11-04, u need to do shell work if u ever want ndis to work under linux
[07:44] <woss> yagoo, yep, i had that on my other router, but this is so old and simple that it doesn't have port forwarding or any semi advanced features
[07:44] <Laptop11-04> yagoo ok
[07:44] <iggy> (firefox-bin:4485): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed
[07:44] <yagoo> woss, what model is it bwt?
[07:44] <adminewb> Having difficulty here finding the cause for my AMD64 based system to lock up booting that architecture for natty (i386 works ok but I want to run a 64 host); tried to loopback mount a debian live squeeze amd64 iso to boot in grub2, as another data point, and so far there it succeeds to premount stage, but fails to find the live file system to mount; any diagnostic ideas?
[07:45] <iggy> see it's that stinkin shortcut... it's broken
[07:45] <MagePsycho> have anyone used netbeans in ubuntu?
[07:46] <MagePsycho> it's sooooooooooooooooo slow
[07:46] <klia> I placed my 11.04 on my sony vaio cd rom but can't get it to boot (un-compression error), I am running 10.04 , any idea?
[07:46] <yagoo> adminewb, wrong channel.. that's a grub2 ... BTW.. grub2 has its modules too... grub2's loopback module needs to be included during grub2 bootup
[07:47] <woss> yagoo, some motorola, sb5101e
[07:47] <adminewb> yagoo thanks for the tip, loopback module apparently loads itself up ok, as other loopback entries are ok
[07:47] <yagoo> woss, ?
[07:47] <yagoo> woss, that's not a router
[07:47] <adminewb> that's not the stage where it fails in any case
[07:48] <woss> yagoo, it's says on router(modem) that that's a model
[07:48] <yagoo> woss, that's a modem
[07:49] <woss> yagoo, oh, oki then :) i have to google for a diff :)
[07:49] <yagoo> woss, the router label is misleading.. I've seen "switches" sold as labelled "hubs"..
[07:49] <yagoo> woss, no need to worry about that modem..
[07:49] <woss> yagoo, hahaha i preasume u r sys admin :)
[07:49] <yagoo> woss, ur PC is the only internet access machine in your home.. so your IP is a public one
[07:50] <woss> yagoo, yep
[07:50] <yagoo> (IP address isnt 192.168.x.x for eg)
[07:50] <blehhz> Can anyone help me with my resolution?
[07:51] <iggy> Anyone else know the way to fix a broken launch icon in the new ubuntu 11.04?
[07:51] <blehhz> I have tried all the resolutions in the nvidia x server app and none of them fit.
[07:51] <yagoo> blehhz, ?
[07:52] <yagoo> blehhz, does the nvidia logo display when X starts?
[07:52] <blehhz> I used the nvidia driver to select my resolution but none of them fit my screen the toolbar is half gone.
[07:52] <yagoo> blehhz, can u go a little slowly here? nvidia driver is not the app..
[07:53] <blehhz> yeah, sorry.
[07:53] <blehhz> the settings for the driver i guess?  Lets me pick the resolution for Ubuntu.
[07:53] <GuyCanada> has anyone here installed minecraft? ive downloaded the .jar from the website but i cant get it to work
[07:54] <gfdghfdh> hey!
[07:54] <woss> thanks people :)
[07:54] <blehhz> so basically i dont know what to manually set my resolution to.
[07:55] <psypher246> hi all, I have some pretty beefy hardware non my laptop yet fullscreen youtube (flash based) video on ubuntu natty is a complete waste of time, freezez drops frames (just crap), has anyone found a fix for this, seems to happen on every install I do
[07:56] <Braiam> psypher246: give a try to html5
[07:57] <psypher246> Braiam: just trying big buck bunny, yeah looks good
[07:57] <psypher246> Braiam: so just flash then, any suggestions?
[07:58] <Braiam> psypher246: youtube.com/html5 i guest
[07:58] <yagoo> psypher246, what laptop model is it?
[07:58] <psypher246> any sugestions on making FLASH work I mean
[07:58] <psypher246> yagoo: dell xps 17"
[07:58] <blehhz> how can i find out what resolution i should manually set my desktop to?
[07:58] <psypher246> fullscreen flashed worked quite mwell on my slower dell in maverick\
[07:59] <eusid> Is the IRC plugin for empathy/gwibber in Ubuntu11 buggy? sometimes i can only join double pound channels ##linux sometimes both doubles and singles #css, however i can never join the channel #django. i am registered and identified
[07:59] <psypher246> to be honest lucid was by far the smoothest flash playing OS
[07:59] <MacakMeow> blehhz: Do you know the native resolution of your screen/monitor?
[07:59] <Braiam> blehhz: get the specs for your monitor
[08:00] <eusid> blehhz: ideally you would be using the max available given you have a large enough monitor and good enough graphics card
[08:02] <psypher246> Braiam: looking at the adobe flash plugin software center ratings, flash is an abortion
[08:02] <eusid> so anybody know is the IRC plug screwed for the empathy software in Ubuntu 11?
[08:02] <psypher246> Why does this stuff have to regress so badly each new version of ubuntu
[08:02] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: are you talking about the free equivalents of Flash?
[08:02] <yagoo> psypher246, what's the symptom? you get freezes of what? audio and video?
[08:02] <Guest60327> hi....
[08:03] <yagoo> Guest60327, hi
[08:03] <Guest60327> ....
[08:03] <psypher246> yagoo: yeah video freezez drops frames, not sure about audio lemme check and confirm
[08:03] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: Adobe make a Linux version of their flashplayer
[08:03] <eusid> i had trouble installing flash on maverick due to an old version being installed once it was removed and i directed myself (manually) to the newest vertsion everything was fly
[08:03] <Guest60327> yagoo: you from ?
[08:03] <psypher246> thegoodcushion: so u suggest the offical adboe version and not ubuntu's
[08:03] <yagoo> psypher246, how long u using linux?
[08:03] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: yep
[08:03] <psypher246> yagoo: many years
[08:03] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: The Adobe version just plain works, and you know it's developed alongside the Windows version, which is the gold standard
[08:03] <Guest60327> yagoo: ????
[08:04] <Guest60327> yagoo:  ???
[08:04] <eusid> i need a nice chm reader for unbuntu as many ebook are still in chm format
[08:04] <psypher246> thegoodcushion: ok cool going back to their version, like i said lucid played flash very well, on ubuntu's version, but yeah this sucks
[08:04] <eusid> makes me think that should be a chemistry molecule filetype.....\
[08:04] <psypher246> embaraasing when a mac user stand at your desk and you want to watch a video
[08:04] <Guest60327> yagoo:  ????/ are you ....
[08:05] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: I can't play youtube videos in lucid using any flashplayer other than Adobe's
[08:05] <psypher246> hmm
[08:05] <psypher246> thegoodcushion: 32 or 64 bit?
[08:05] <yagoo> psypher246, can u pastebin the interrupts list?
[08:05] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: but the Adobe one works perfectly.  If you can live with having non-open-source software on your puter
[08:05] <bullgard4> How to determine the version of the currently used kernel?
[08:05] <psypher246> thegoodcushion: meh :) I really don't care
[08:05] <elnur> I'm using Natty with Gnome 3. Today I've lost the keyboard layout indicator and can't switch the layout.   Does that sound right?
[08:09] <psypher246> yagoo: o....k
[08:09] <psypher246> yagoo: all i'm saying i'm not a noob
[08:09] <yagoo> u are.
[08:09] <psypher246> so CTFD
[08:10] <yagoo> u cant even do an interrupts listing
[08:10] <psypher246> mmmm
[08:10] <yagoo> yah go google
[08:10] <psypher246> sure
[08:10] <elnur> thegoodcushion: for me it's working pretty much good. the only problem for now is that there are little GUI system configuration tools, but you can do it via gconf-editor and dconf-editor
[08:10] <thegoodcushion> elnur: ok
[08:10] <thegoodcushion> Fedora 15 uses GNOME 3
[08:11] <elnur> thegoodcushion: i'm used to .deb systems and don't wanna switch to .rpm :)
[08:11] <psypher246> yagoo: so explain to me your logic then
[08:11] <elnur> thegoodcushion: so, no fedora for me
[08:11] <thegoodcushion> elnur: Yeah me too, but I hate Unity more than I hate .rpm
[08:11] <hidn_shadows> Anyone know of any virtual isometric paper, like in an engineering software suite?
[08:11] <pranav> !players
[08:12] <elnur> thegoodcushion: Unity sucks big time, at least for me. i switched to gnome-shell almost imidiatelly
[08:12] <yagoo> hidn_shadows, u mean CAD ?
[08:13] <yagoo> hidn_shadows, (list of software CAD site:wikipedia.org)
[08:13] <DirtyDawg> is classic ubuntu gnome-shell?
[08:13] <DirtyDawg> on the 11.04 login
[08:13] <pranav> is there a comparison page for ubuntu players ?
[08:13] <pranav> !firewalls
[08:13] <liran> there are unstable repo for ubuntu just like debian ?
[08:13] <hidn_shadows> Yagoo, no. A lot more low-tech, merely something for drawing on iso paper.
[08:13] <elnur> DirtyDawg: afaik, gnome-shell is something that is for gnome 3
[08:13] <pranav> !security
[08:13] <DirtyDawg> ahh k thx
[08:13] <yagoo> pranav, same thing.. what i told hidn_shadows use "Lost of software" with google
[08:13] <yagoo> lol
[08:13] <yagoo> pranav, meant "list" of software
[08:14] <liran> !unstable
[08:14] <yagoo> pranav, and "wikipedia" another keyword with it
[08:14] <pranav> yagoo: oh.. so thank you, i never knew how to google
[08:14] <yagoo> pranav, site:wikipedia.org <<< google.com/linux for you!
[08:14] <liran> !repositories
[08:14] <liran> there are unstable repo for ubuntu just like debian ?
[08:15] <yagoo> pranav, noob ->> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_media_players
[08:15] <yagoo> there since u dont know how to google.
[08:15] <elnur> liran: afaik, ubuntu is the unstable version of debian ^^
[08:15] <psypher246> yagoo: wow
[08:16] <psypher246> thegoodcushion: do u use chorme?"
[08:16] <iggy> Anyone else know the way to fix a broken launch icon in the new ubuntu 11.04?
[08:16] <N0BOX> holy /names, batman!
[08:16] <bullgard4> liran: The Ubuntu versioning system differs from Debian. At the moment there is no "unstable version" in Ubuntu in the sense of Ubuntu.
[08:17] <yagoo> iggy, u mean the icon picture is not available?
[08:17] <wip_> Hi, does the grub version in ubuntu support /boot with ext4 yet?
[08:18] <N0BOX> So, does anyone else have an issue where if you click to open a pdf file in document viewer from the dialog that pops up in firefox, the whole window manager stops drawing the titlebar and window edges on everything until you restart?
[08:18] <yagoo> wip_, should if its grub2
[08:18] <N0BOX> oh, also, this is in ubuntu 11.04 using unity
[08:18] <elnur> wip_: i'm using grub 2 and ext4, but no separate /boot partition
[08:18] <yagoo> elnur, thats fine
[08:18] <wip_> elnur: same as im trying to, but doesn't work:P
[08:19] <elnur> wip_: it worked for me out of the box
[08:19] <elnur> yagoo: what you mean that's fine? ^^
[08:19] <yagoo> elnur, does / the default partition scheme?
[08:19] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: no, I use firefox
[08:19] <yagoo> elnur, cuse i havent tried the latest of ubuntu recently
[08:19] <bullgard4> liran: Seen from another point of view, Ubuntu 10.04.2 is the most "stable" version of Ubuntu at the present moment (somewhat in the sense of Debian's "stable"). Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 are comparable to Debians attribute »unstable«.
[08:19] <wip_> elnur: hmm im also using dm raid1 on /, but alt. install only claims grub2 fails.
[08:19] <yagoo> meant to ask a question
[08:19] <elnur> yagoo: sorry, didn't get your question
[08:19] <thegoodcushion> DirtyDawg: gnome-shell is part of gnome 3
[08:20] <psypher246> thegoodcushion: np i found wher i need to place the flie
[08:20] <yagoo> nmind
[08:20] <elnur> wip_: i have no xp with raid
[08:20] <elnur> wip_: maybe that's the problem
[08:21] <iggy> yagoo, no the picture is there, but it doesn't open the associated file
[08:21] <yagoo> wip_, dunno about this...but dont u need /boot partition for raid ?
[08:22] <N0BOX> ok, guess not... then, does anyone know of a way to reload the window manager or something without having to reboot?
[08:22] <wip_> yagoo: as it's raid1 i shouldn't need to. but i do need to pass /dev/md0 as kernel parameter for root.
[08:22] <yagoo> iggy, oh that.. u mean it's not an application link.. with nautilus u should be able to rt/click file and change the default app
[08:22] <yagoo> iggy, if the app isnt listed then u'd need to know the X app binary filename
[08:23] <rzx237> N0BOX: without logout  too?
[08:23] <iggy> yagoo, oh.. I didn't know what nautilus was for
[08:23] <N0BOX> I've tried logout, it doesn't fix it.
[08:23] <yagoo> iggy, how do i know if u just installed ubuntu?
[08:23] <yagoo> lol
[08:23] <yagoo> iggy, dont get hasty with me
[08:23] <psypher246> wip_: you need to install mdadm in your new install post OS install
[08:24] <psypher246> wip_: so boot up with the live cd
[08:24] <psypher246> mount your newly installed os partition
[08:24] <wip_> psypher246: ye and choot etc..
[08:24] <psypher246> wip_: yup ooh ok have u done that alerady>?\
[08:24] <iggy> yagoo, is nautilus necessary to fix the problem?
[08:25] <yagoo> iggy, you said "associated" file.. that's what you said.
[08:25] <maj-> does apt-get not work correctly for other people with the new ubuntu? wont even retrieve irssi
[08:25] <ThinkT510> iggy: nautilus is the file manager
[08:25] <N0BOX> ok, I lied, logout fixed it, but it is fscking annoying to have to log out and back in every day or so
[08:25] <yagoo> ThinkT510, he doesn't know how to ask the question.. i suggest he googles his answer since he's arrogant
[08:25] <Scarra3> What is the difference between unity and gnome
[08:25] <wip_> psypher246: i normally run gentoo tbh:P but still doesn't explain why grub2 fails on setting mbr on manually selected /dev/hd[a-b] during install..
[08:26] <yagoo> !unity
[08:26] <iggy> yagoo, well I'm just wondering if there is a folder already for the icons that are in the launch bar
[08:26] <iggy> I could just find that folder and then right click on the icon in that folder right?
[08:26] <psypher246> wip_: oh ok
[08:27] <yagoo> iggy, it shold take u to the default if u want to change it.. /usr/share/pixmaps... something like this.. there's a package for more free-extra i believe.. (package manager)
[08:27] <yagoo> thought u said the icon picture isnt the problem nways.
[08:28] <iggy> yagoo, I'm trying to get a Firefox icon to open firefox. So far the only way I can  open firefox is by doing a brute force with a terminal window.
[08:28] <maj-> !classic
[08:28] <yagoo> iggy, ............
[08:28] <ouyes> iggy, add to pannle
[08:28] <yagoo> iggy, you mean desktop link.. u can change both if u want to..
[08:28] <ouyes> pannel
[08:28] <iggy> ouyes, what?
[08:28] <yagoo> iggy, the link works.. but u want to change the icon on the link
[08:29] <iggy> yagoo, the link doesn't work
[08:29] <yagoo> iggy, as i said u can change both..
[08:29] <yagoo> and i answered both of these cases
[08:29] <N0BOX> are there any plans for customization of the bar on the left side of the screen in the future (or now)?
[08:30] <iggy> yagoo, how can i make the icon open firefox when I click on it?
[08:30] <iggy> it just pulses and nothing happens
[08:30] <ilea> does anybody know a good aplication for recovering or cracking or removing the password from a rar arhive?
[08:30] <yagoo> !firefox
[08:31] <maj-> unity is horrible!
[08:31] <N0BOX> I used to use avant window navigator, and I liked some of the little add-on applets, such as the cpu load meter with top output on-click and the network usasge graph
[08:31] <EGuinn> maj-: What about it?
[08:31] <iggy> maj, why do you say that?
[08:31] <maj-> all of the applications are just thrown together under "installed", on GNOME it atleast broken them down into genres or purposes
[08:32] <N0BOX> you can get to the 'genres', but it involves a bunch more clicks
[08:32] <yagoo> maj-, i know .. isn't that so simple ! :)
[08:33] <maj-> simple for the developer, not for the user
[08:33] <N0BOX> or, you can right-click the applications button to get the old listing style
[08:33] <EGuinn> N0BOX: lol
[08:34] <iggy> yagoo, can you help me fix my problem?
[08:34] <N0BOX> sort of, anyway
[08:34] <N0BOX> the only thing I don't like about unity is the cvomplete lack of customizability
[08:34] <N0BOX> it goes against all things linux
[08:35] <yagoo> iggy, type the binary filename from a terminal .. if it doesn't fire then well u know what to do
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> N0BOX: don't use it then....
[08:35] <yagoo> iggy, u new to ubuntu?
[08:35] <psypher246> thegoodcushion: thanks dude, smooth fullscreen happiness. i should have thought of this before, been such a long time since i had to install adobe's version that I forgot that it was a solution back in the day, well in my case
[08:35] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: Good to see you still here.
[08:35] <iggy> yagoo, I told you already that it opens in a terminal
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: i'm here most days :)
[08:35] <N0BOX> ActionParsnip: I don't hate it enough to not use it
[08:35] <iggy> but the icon is broken
[08:35] <yagoo> iggy, "it".
[08:35] <yagoo> iggy, i dont know what it is. sorry cant help u there
[08:36] <N0BOX> but I will say that it has definite room for improvement
[08:36] <iggy> firefox=it
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> N0BOX: you can use other dock type apps to replace
[08:36] <N0BOX> but unity is pretty
[08:36] <yagoo> iggy, dpkg -S `/which firefox`
[08:36] <thegoodcushion> psypher246: as far as I'm concerned, the Adobe version is the only version, unless you're a FOSS diehard
[08:36] <N0BOX> why can't I have pretty and customizable?
[08:37] <thegoodcushion> presumably they use the same codebase as the Windows version
[08:37] <iggy> yagoo, the latest firefox
[08:37] <yagoo> iggy, dpkg -S `which firefox`
[08:37] <unity_compiz> hey guys, i have uninstalled compiz (everytihng was ok) but after a reboot all my bars where away (left bar and top bar)
[08:37] <adminewb1> unity is pretty for handheld devices maybe
[08:37] <yagoo> no output.
[08:37] <yagoo> bye iggy
[08:37] <ThinkT510> yagoo: iggy is saying the icon on the unity sidebar doesn't launch firefox, but he can launch it if he types it into a terminal
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> N0BOX: its a new app, it'll get some love soon :)
[08:37] <iggy> thanks ThinkT510
[08:37] <N0BOX> ActionParsnip: exactly.  I'm just making my suggestion ;)
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: left bar needs compiz to exist
[08:37] <unity_compiz> so how do i fix this problem?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> N0BOX: post suggestions on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com ;);)
[08:38] <EGuinn> unity_compiz: probably sudo apt-get install compiz
[08:38] <Blou_Aap> how can I get my window frames back in 11.04 ?
[08:38] <yagoo> problem solved.. thanks ThinkT510
[08:38] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip: i have ubuntu 11.04, the left bar was there before i installed compiz
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: you can log in to gnome classic desktop and you should be ok
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: compiz is in a default install
[08:39] <unity_compiz> ohhh
[08:39] <iggy> yagoo, I told already told you what ThinkT510 said, are you trolling me or what
[08:39] <iggy> -told
[08:39] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip so how to i access terminal?
[08:39]  * yagoo ignores igg
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: CTRL+ALT+T
[08:39] <N0BOX> oh, yeah, that was a problem
[08:39] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: So you are a fan of Unity, right?
[08:40] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip i tired that already, doesent work
[08:40] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: I should probably update my Ubuntu box to find out.
[08:40] <iggy> seriously, I come here for help, I get none
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: it's ok, not so bad to hate but not all that and a bag of chips
[08:40] <N0BOX> I had to uninstall (purge) and reinsall compiz to get unity to work properly
[08:40] <EGuinn> iggy: what is your problem?
[08:40] <iggy> nothing but trying to explain the most simple of things and to just get ignored...
[08:40] <iggy> EGuinn, I'm trying to fix a broken icon in my launch bar
[08:41] <iggy> I'm using ubuntu 11.04
[08:41] <EGuinn> iggy: what is wrong with it?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: still loving lxde here personally :)
[08:41] <iggy> it's a firefox icon that won't work
[08:41] <N0BOX> I tweaqked with a setting in the compiz configuration deal after my dist upgrade and the whole window system failed
[08:41] <iggy> firefox will only open through a terminal window
[08:41] <EGuinn> iggy: so you worked Unity how it said to, and just pinned it to the sidebar when it was running?
[08:41] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip, EGuinn how do i start terminal without ctrl-alt-t
[08:42] <iggy> EGuinn, yep
[08:42] <EGuinn> iggy: And does it show the icon?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: could use CTRL+ALT+F1
[08:42] <iggy> yep
[08:42] <EGuinn> iggy: and the icon does not work.
[08:42] <iggy> thunderbird is doing the same thing
[08:42] <iggy> yep
[08:42] <EGuinn> iggy: You, my friend, have a weird problem.
[08:42] <MaRk-I> unity_compiz: alt+f2  gnome-terminal   ?
[08:42] <iggy> yep
[08:42] <rghose> facing a prob with dhcp on ubuntu 10.10: cannto connect to the internet, connection unplugged?
[08:42] <EGuinn> iggy: Have you tried drag-drop?
[08:43] <yagoo> rghose, dhcp ?
[08:43] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: does that even work?
[08:43] <iggy> and the Unity people don't know what's wrong either... yes I have
[08:43] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip thats the black big fullscreen window, i was there before but what should i do there?
[08:43] <psypher246> iggy: i have that issue sometimes when i mess with the icons trying to add custome launchers, loggin out and back in fixed it for me
[08:43] <N0BOX> what happened to the option to turn on the extra window effects like wobbly windows?
[08:43] <rghose> @yagoo: yes... my tikona wimax internet works with dhcp
[08:43] <EGuinn> iggy: Dang, man. That is an odd problem.
[08:43] <unity_compiz> MaRk-I doesent work
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: should do
[08:43] <EGuinn> iggy: I could not tell you man, sorry.
[08:43] <N0BOX> is that also disabled because of unity?
[08:43] <yagoo> rghose, tikona ?
[08:43] <iggy> I think it's got something to do with the way that Unity loads
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: its tty, its not a fullscreen window. You can get back with CTRL+ALT+F7
[08:43] <rghose> @yagoo: it's the name of my isp... works on winxp... used oto work on ubuntu 10.10
[08:43] <psypher246> N0BOX: I assume so, you can turn that stuff on in the compiz settings manager
[08:44] <maj-> woohoo
[08:44] <iggy> I wish I could reset unity
[08:44] <maj-> thank god for ubuntu classic
[08:44] <iggy> without logging out
[08:44] <maj-> i wish i could remove it
[08:44] <EGuinn> iggy: You can log in as default Gnome desktop...
[08:44] <iggy> yeah...
[08:44] <EGuinn> iggy: but again, you said without logging out....
[08:44] <iggy> what a pain though
[08:44] <rghose> @yagoo: strangely does no logner work on my ubuntu 10.10: I am getting Network Wire unplugged message...
[08:44] <iggy> right
[08:44] <EGuinn> iggy: I think you are done for until they put out a new Unity... Sorry man.
[08:44] <N0BOX> psypher246: the last time I used that program, gnome/nautilus stopped working and wouldn't come up again even after reboot
[08:45] <yagoo> rghose, how are u connected currently?
[08:45] <EGuinn> iggy: I am guessing you went through all the steps of restarting, etc?
[08:45] <rghose> yah
[08:45] <psypher246> N0BOX: eeesh, that has never happened to me
[08:45] <rghose> I am
[08:45] <iggy> I read something about doing a Unity --reset command
[08:45] <iggy> yep
[08:45] <psypher246> N0BOX: that sucks, but try again
[08:45] <rghose> @yagoo: I'm on winxp with tikona
[08:45] <EGuinn> iggy: I would google that Unity --restart thing.
[08:45] <N0BOX> I had to reinstall compiz after purging it
[08:45] <rghose> @yagoo: it is working on this os
[08:45] <yagoo> rghose, windows no!!
[08:45] <psypher246> N0BOX: ack!\
[08:45] <yagoo> rghose, u said it was working on a previous ubuntu edition?
[08:45] <rghose> @yagoo:  :( it was working on the current one!
[08:46] <N0BOX> psypher246: is this possible using the simple compiz config deal?
[08:46] <rghose> @yagoo: It would load the settings by itself... I never needed to twinker anything
[08:46] <EGuinn> iggy: I just did a search on it -- it seems that all sorts of people are having problems with it...
[08:46] <yagoo> rghose, weird..
[08:46] <rghose> @yagoo: another info: it doesnt work on live cd as well...
[08:46] <yagoo> rghose, u sure its not the home base the issue?
[08:47] <psypher246> N0BOX: I duno, not that i can find
[08:47] <rghose> @yagoo: if it were.. how can it work on winxp ?
[08:47] <yagoo> rghose, ok ok.. dunno if u were on dialup :p
[08:47] <rghose> @yagoo: it's dhcp u c...
[08:48] <EGuinn> Well, all, it is about time for me to hit the sack. I have an AP Bio test tomorrow. Good bye, and good luck getting your problems solved!
[08:48] <yagoo> rghose, .. ?
[08:48] <rghose> @yagoo: like i said... it is working right NOW... on my winxp
[08:48] <yagoo> rghose, u said it worked on ubuntu.. wonder why all of a sudden it stops working
[08:48] <rghose> @yagoo: one reboot... and it wont
[08:48] <yagoo> rghose, is this correct?
[08:49] <rghose> @yagoo: well there was a problem with my internet connection once
[08:49] <yagoo> rghose, (am i correct that it ever worked on on the current ubuntu?)
[08:49] <iggy> EGuinn, yeah.. I've learned that many people are super pissed with it being part of the new ubuntu
[08:49] <rghose> @yagoo: some tech support guy came home and it worked on ONLY winxp ever since
[08:49] <rghose> @yagoo: yes u r
[08:49] <jlxsolutions> i gto a slight problem i think my Gparted has hung it self and i am afraid to touch it any advice?
[08:49] <yagoo> rghose, ok.. maybe it's a security feature.. did u check if he installed any software different?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> rghose: if you drop the @ symbol, the highlighting will work
[08:50] <hemang> hello there
[08:50] <Guest23413> Why I can't click some areas on my desktop? Its like there are invisible stay-on-top windows wich prevents me to click visible things under it. Its very very annoying. Whats happening?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> @rghose: see how your nick isn't highlighted this time
[08:50] <rghose> yagoo: yes i did... check... i even changes some strange oddities... like host-name from winxp
[08:50] <yagoo> rghose, check the winsock providers.. see if there's any proprietary stuff (autoruns from systernals can show this)
[08:50] <hemang> hey
[08:50] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip k i could acces ctrl-alt-f1 but when i type something in there they want my password, when i type it in the always say it failed
[08:50] <adminewb1> jlxsolutions, did you stack up pending write operations before it hung? if not, i'd not worry too much
[08:50] <hemang> i need some help
[08:50] <hemang> :-(
[08:50] <jlxsolutions> it hung onrezise
[08:51] <rghose> yagoo: i have autoruns.. 2 mins
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: its your login pass, you won't get any feedback, just keep typing and hit enter
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> !ask | hemang
[08:51] <hemang> which is best program for burn cd in ubuntu ??
[08:52] <N0BOX> feck
[08:52] <rghose> yagoo: I see 8MSAFD Netbios helpers, 3 MSAFG and 2 RSVP ones
[08:52] <unity_compiz> yeah i know that type of login from terminal sudo -i but when i type and press enter it echo bak that the login failed
[08:52] <Guest23413> hemang: brasero?
[08:52] <rghose> yagoo:  around 11 entries there
[08:52] <N0BOX> enabling wobbly windows breaks unity completely
[08:52] <adminewb1> jlxsolutions sounds nerve wracking, ok panic :)
[08:52] <hemang> right now i try that ..
[08:52] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip yeah i know that type of login from terminal sudo -i but when i type and press enter it echo bak that the login failed
[08:52] <Guest23413> hemang: try k3b
[08:52] <yagoo> rghose, just check if there's any proprietary, like non open protocols used..
[08:53] <jlxsolutions> the bad part comes in when i say it is my backupdrive for my destroyed backup drive....
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: check caps lock :)
[08:53] <yagoo> rghose, u can tell me or copy&paste the list to pastebin..
[08:53] <rghose> yagoo: Is this nrmal? But the guy used a limited account... when he was at home... !
[08:53] <rghose> ok
[08:53] <adminewb1> jlxsolutions did you see whether it completed what it was doing?
[08:53] <rghose> yagoo: I'm screening it... posting a link here
[08:54] <yagoo> rghose, actually u can also do rt/click properties.. and see if it says microsux..
[08:54] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip, i checked it, negative
[08:54] <jlxsolutions> it went as far as rezise2fs /dev/sda1 and hung would be nice if i could see if it is actually writing or not
[08:54] <robinsmidsrod> has anyone else had problems with screen updates on i915-powered laptop?
[08:55] <rghose> yagoo: they all suck.. :D all are ms stuff there
[08:55] <djszapi_> hi, I tried to boot the 10.10 ubuntu livecd, but it is completely dark for me, almost nothing can be seen
[08:55] <djszapi_> How can I change the lighting ?
[08:55] <rghose> yagoo: none other than that
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: not sure then dude
[08:55] <adminewb1> jlxsolutions it would be some indication if your disk activity light saturated when it started the resize2fs
[08:56] <jlxsolutions> No disk leds lol
[08:56] <yagoo> rghose, eap ?
[08:56] <adminewb1> and how long such activity persisted...
[08:56] <rghose> yahoo: yep... no prop ones
[08:56] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip could it be that my pass wa reseted, (i have autologin)
[08:56] <robinsmidsrod> whenever I leave the computer idle for some time, and the screen saver turns on, and when I touch the mouse to get back to it, the desktop doesn't come back up - it is like the screensaver is stuck on screen (except for the mouse pointer)
[08:56] <bullgard4> In order to be able to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 I need to free at least 531MB disk space. I already deleted old kernels.  /home takes 7,4 GiB, /usr 5,4 GiB, /var 1,3 GiB. What can I likely dismiss yet in /usr/ und /var and delete?
[08:56] <xiaoy> How to setup ubuntu to make a sound when the battery is almost without power?
[08:56] <jlxsolutions> im gonna put my ear on the drive if it is doing something i let it run
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: worth dropping to root recovery mode and set the password again
[08:57] <adminewb1> jlxsolutions what sort of chassis is it?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: remove openoffice too
[08:57] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip, how?
[08:57] <yagoo> rghose, what about the dialup, is it scripted?
[08:57] <robinsmidsrod> the thing is that I can ctrl-alt-f1 switch to vt1, and it is there and works, but if I try to switch back to vt6/7/8 nothing apperas
[08:57] <robinsmidsrod> (except the mouse)
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: also try bleachbit to clear some space
[08:57] <jlxsolutions> chassi from the 1990ies and open and the drive is working hard on something so i guess it is just the Gui thats hung
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> unity_compiz: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[08:58] <yagoo> rghose, (not old telephone dialup)
[08:58] <unity_compiz> k thx bye
[08:58] <rghose> yagoo: i have dhcp... i dont dial any line... there a wimax bs on my terrace and a lan cat4 comes in
[08:58] <unity_compiz> ActionParsnip, k thx bye
[08:58] <jlxsolutions> since swap is off and im on live cd
[08:58] <ferguson> ciciasdasd
[08:58] <rghose> yagoo: Don't really understand what u mean by that?
[08:58] <adminewb1> jlxsolutions you can try opening system monitor, sort processes by %CPU, maybe see what's keeping your system occupied
[08:58] <yagoo> rghose, it's still a serial connection
[08:59] <rghose> yagoo: how can i give u my dial up settings?! (i dont understant how to!)
[08:59] <jlxsolutions> Xorg and firefox are fighting over the CPU lol
[08:59] <rghose> yagoo: i can show u some lan settings
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> jlxsolutions: firefox will chew your cpu lots
[09:00] <jlxsolutions> gparted is getting 12%
[09:00] <riccardo> quit
[09:00] <jlxsolutions> ah now the actual resize process started
[09:00] <yagoo> rghose, using ipv6?
[09:00] <rghose> yagoo: can u take a look here? :https://picasaweb.google.com/hansum.rahul/InternetSettings?authkey=Gv1sRgCOzM3_ixt6-SygE&feat=directlink
[09:00] <rghose> yagoo: naah... i tried that.. disabled ipv6 on winxp
[09:01] <rghose> yagoo: still works on winxp :P :(
[09:01] <adminewb1> sounds like it's taking abnormally long in any case
[09:01] <jlxsolutions> sweet i was getting worried there
[09:01] <yagoo> rghose, um..
[09:01] <jlxsolutions> Well adminnewb1 thanks for calming my nervers during this lol
[09:02] <adminewb1> xD
[09:02] <yagoo> rghose, what's the name of the communications unit?
[09:02] <yagoo> rghose, near the demarcation point
[09:02] <yagoo> rghose, sometimes those things host their own webservers to show statuses
[09:03] <rghose> yagoo: i get a login page from tikona wibro
[09:03] <adminewb1> #grub channel's been idle for over an hour
[09:03] <yagoo> rghose, what's it's ip?
[09:03] <rghose> yahoo: when i open up my browser.. but that;s after I get the ip via dhcp
[09:03] <adminewb1> ok if someone wants to pick up my loopback iso boot trouble?
[09:03] <rghose> yagoo: the gw is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:04] <yagoo> rghose, can u force same ipaddress as on windows (and same subnet mask) and try to ping  <IP_ADDRESS>? (can u ping  <IP_ADDRESS> in windows?)
[09:05] <rghose> yagoo: yes i can ping
[09:05] <yagoo> rghose, i dont mean <IP_ADDRESS> being a linksys router box..
[09:05] <yagoo> rghose, is this the modem?
[09:05] <berkes> my .gvfs appears broken. I cannot access it and ls shows weird permissions and ownership: d?????????   ? ?    ?        ?                ? .gvfs
[09:05] <berkes> any hints on fixing this?
[09:05] <rghose> rghose: i never could access the router
[09:05] <rghose> oops
[09:06] <rghose> yagoo: i never could access the router or modem
[09:06] <yagoo> rghose, what's the name of the modem?
[09:06] <rghose> yagoo: looks to me <IP_ADDRESS> is a server
[09:06] <yagoo> rghose, but what is  <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:06] <rghose> yagoo: the guys said it was a basestation
[09:06] <yagoo> rghose, the router?
[09:06] <yagoo> rghose, arp -a
[09:06] <rghose> yagoo: <IP_ADDRESS> seems to be a server
[09:06] <adminewb1> someone here experienced with loopback mounting live linux ISO images to boot in grub? please join #grub to hash it out
[09:06] <stuntaneous> Say, perhaps, I managed to destroy NetworkManager's configuration somehow and now have no internet.. how do I go about resetting it back to a working state?
[09:06] <yagoo> (dos command-> arp -a  can show vendor ids)
[09:06] <rghose> yagoo:
[09:07] <rghose> Interface: <IP_ADDRESS> --- 0x2
[09:07] <rghose>   Internet Address      Physical Address      Type
[09:07] <rghose>   <IP_ADDRESS>          00-90-0b-10-ab-e6     dynamic
[09:07] <FloodBot1> rghose: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <rghose> yagoo: oops.. sorry
[09:07] <yagoo> rghose, u can paste a few lines #flood :)
[09:07] <tasslehoff> If I'm gonna have both Gnome and KDE installed, should I choose GDM/KDM based on what I will be running most often?
[09:07] <rghose> yagoo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605101/
[09:07] <yagoo> tasslehoff, gdm/kdm<< any of the two can launch either gnome or kdesktop without issues
[09:07] <iggy> can anyone tell me how to get rid of unity and do the gnome classic with compiz thing?
[09:08] <tasslehoff> yagoo: no problem than. thanks.
[09:08] <Guest55254> hmm does anyboy=y heah know if linux has a syn·chro·nizer
[09:08] <HypothesisFrog> I have an old 64 meg sdcard that I use with my digital camera. Unfortunately, ubuntu won't recognise it anymore. XP does, but ubuntu seems to have stopped. How can I fix this?
[09:08] <rghose> yagoo: so that's my router! and the tech support guys were so stupid... :P me was too..  :(
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest55254: what is a "syn?chro?nizer"
[09:09] <alkisg> Will there be an linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty package available for Lucid? Now only linux-image-generic-lts-backport-maverick is available in lucid-updates...
[09:10] <iggy> any unity experts in the crowd?
[09:10] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: It is a good idea to remove openoffice. I hope that bleachbit will not delete something that I regret later.
[09:10] <Guest55254> in windows you typed a message and you would hear it after you typed it
[09:11] <yagoo> rghose, ?
[09:11] <rghose> yagoo: i guess i cant ping that from ububtu
[09:11] <maciej_> hello
[09:11] <rghose> yagoo: coz... the routes are ot defined
[09:11] <rghose> yagoo: u think i should reboot give it a try?
[09:11] <maciej_> please help me i must instal new tibia 8.73 and have problem.
[09:11] <maciej_> in polen server ubuntu-pl no write me ;/
[09:11] <yagoo> rghose, <IP_ADDRESS> is a public ip
[09:12] <rghose> yagoo: and <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:12] <maciej_> i tray open Tibia and dont open,  help me ?
[09:12] <rghose> yagoo: i thought u saw the paste ?
[09:13] <Guest55254> god does anybody know the name cause im lost
[09:13] <rghose> yagoo: guess the bs is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:13] <yagoo> rghose, i think the modem may be a lanson electronics (oui)
[09:14] <yagoo> rghose, type oui in google.. its' the first link
[09:14] <rghose> ok
[09:14] <yagoo> rghose, then type the 00-xx- in the search field
[09:14] <yagoo> or 00-xx
[09:14] <bin_bash> Hello
[09:14] <bin_bash> When I do a video call with skype
[09:14] <bin_bash> I'm getting a kernel panic
[09:14] <bin_bash> it only happens when we both use cams
[09:15] <yagoo> rghose, pretty sure u can get it to work
[09:15] <bullgard4> !skype | bin_bash
[09:15] <adminewb1> HypothesisFrog, symptoms I've seen may correspond to yours; tried just replugging the device?
[09:15] <bin_bash> OH MY GOD! THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME HOW TO INSTALL A PROGRAM THAT I ALREADY HAVE INSTALLED!
[09:15] <bin_bash> learn to read.
[09:16] <Daniel0108> bin_bash: please don't use caps, it's annoying.
[09:16] <rghose> yagoo: alrite... taking a look
[09:16] <yagoo> rghose, is um.. did u upgrade the kernel or something?
[09:16]  * usalabs is away: I'll be back, I have gone to somwhere I can contemplate my contemplation.
[09:16] <yagoo> rghose, i can try to get it to work along
[09:16] <bin_bash> So is being told to install a problem that is obviously installed, as I wouldn't be able to use it and thus be having it cause issues if it weren't installed.
[09:16] <rghose> yagoo: nope...
[09:16] <rghose> yagoo: ok... so where do i start?
[09:17] <HypothesisFrog> adminewb1 replugging? I plug the sdcard into the card slot in the side of the netbook a couple of times.
[09:17] <yagoo> rghose, see if dhcp is using any new authentication
[09:17] <rghose> yagoo: thnku 4 ur time
[09:17] <rghose> yagoo: :)
[09:17] <yagoo> rghose, maybe wireshark might show the dhcp versioning
[09:17] <yagoo> rghose, its ok..
[09:17] <rghose> yagoo: altrite
[09:17]  * usalabs is back (gone 00:01:18)
[09:17] <yagoo> rghose, u can still keep trying :)
[09:17] <yagoo> lol
[09:18] <rghose> yagoo: i'm downloading it...
[09:18] <yagoo> rghose, turn off iptables (ubuntu) of course which i'm sure u do..
[09:18] <adminewb1> HypothesisFrog ok then could be a different problem
[09:18] <yagoo> (and turn tweak iptables on afterwards of course)
[09:18] <gucki> Hi! I upgraded to natty on two notebooks and both sometimes hand during shutdown/reboot, I only can power off using the power button. This corrupts my harddisk over time. Is there already a hotfix? :)
[09:19] <yagoo> rghose, btw, wireshark is avail on linux as well
[09:19] <ilon> how do i make grub boot into a resqueshell instead of normally booting ubuntu?
[09:19] <yagoo> rghose, how far do u get with ubuntu? u dont even get an ip correct?
[09:19] <rghose> rghose: i know that,, at the moment it's working on winxp
[09:20] <yagoo> (like ur not using dnssec)
[09:20] <rghose> yagoo: :P
[09:20] <rghose> yagoo: i never got the correct ip in ubuntu
[09:20] <yagoo> rghose, u know the difference between dns and dhcp?
[09:20] <rghose> yagoo: yah...
[09:20] <yagoo> rghose, u get any ip address in ubuntu?
[09:20] <rghose> yagoo: i got a local ip like 169.xxx
[09:20] <adminewb1> ilon, do you get the grub menu on screen?
[09:20] <rghose> yagoo: not the one i should like: 113.xxx
[09:20] <yagoo> ok thats not dhcp-- 169.. of course
[09:20] <ilon> adminewb1: usual grub-screen
[09:21] <roderic_> hi all
[09:21] <ilon> adminewb1: the list with options that is
[09:21] <yagoo> rghose, 169, auto self assigned local link..
[09:21] <rghose> yagoo: hmm guess so... i have a route of a friend
[09:21] <yagoo> rghose, its standardized if dhcp fails the OS will try a local link address
[09:21] <adminewb1> normally you can just press C for a command shell yes?
[09:21] <gucki> it seems other do have the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745593
[09:21] <rghose> yagoo: he's on the same tikona wimax
[09:21] <gucki> but no fix yet?
[09:21] <rghose> yagoo: take a look?
[09:22] <yagoo> rghose, look of what exactly?
[09:22] <ilon> adminewb1: yes, i want to boot a linux-kernel from the disk tho, and drop to shell instead of normal boot
[09:22] <rghose> yagoo: my friend;s route entries... they might seem interesting
[09:22] <ilon> adminewb1: i.e. only boot the primary hd, and drop to shell instead of login
[09:23] <rghose> yagoo: he uses tikona... and it works on ubuntu as of now
[09:23] <adminewb1> ilon, so you're saying you want a single user recovery startup of the ubuntu system you normally start in multiuser mode?
[09:24] <ilon> adminewb1: yeah, thats the expression for it :P
[09:24] <rghose> yagoo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605112/
[09:24] <adminewb1> ilon isn't that already a menu item, paired with your regular boot item?
[09:24] <rghose> yagoo: my route on ubuntu does not have the 1st line
[09:24] <ilon> adminewb1: nope, not on this install
[09:25] <ilon> adminewb1: oh well, will just RTFM :D
[09:25] <adminewb1> ilon, you could try tweaking your grub settings and update so it produces such a menu item
[09:25] <Dbugger> hello guzs
[09:25] <Dbugger> I need some help
[09:25] <ilon> adminewb1: yeah, will do, thanks for the help :)
[09:25] <adminewb1> by default it does produce those
[09:25] <Dbugger> from this weekend, mz dual screen doesnt work in ubuntu
[09:25] <yagoo> rghose, does it take long to get a dhcp offer?
[09:25] <rghose> yagoo: yes
[09:25] <adminewb1> sure ilon
[09:25] <rghose> yagoo: i tried 2wice or thrice
[09:26] <yagoo> rghose, u tried increasing the dhcp client's time (ubuntu) ?
[09:26] <kjxl9> hey, i need some help connecting to a irc chat server with xchat
[09:26] <rghose> yagoo: how can i do that?
[09:26] <Blou_Aap> I'm keen on trying Unity, but I changed something in Compiz Manager, and BOOM no more panels, no more anything but a desktop. not even alt-f2 works. How can I get it all back to new ?
[09:26] <yagoo> rghose, how long does it take windows?
[09:26] <ThinkT510> kjxl9: you're on one now
[09:26] <rghose> yagoo: instantly... on bootup... i'm connected
[09:26] <kjxl9> ya but im trying to join a new server
[09:27] <rghose> yagoo: sometimes... i have to disable and re-enable it.. but that's just sometimes
[09:27] <kjxl9> that isn't in the default channels
[09:27] <yagoo> rghose, can u check on windows if ether link is half duplex ?
[09:27] <kjxl9> im trying to join ustream IRC
[09:27] <yagoo> rghose, i believe the network-connections dialog box may show it on the advanced tab
[09:27] <rghose> yagoo: ok... taking a look
[09:28] <yagoo> rghose, it may not be there .. not all of them have this tab...
[09:28] <rghose> yagoo: in advanced, I just get firewall
[09:28] <yagoo> rghose, if u dont have it there.. u may probably see it with siw.exe (safe to download)
[09:30] <rghose> yagoo: download it
[09:30] <yagoo> rghose, if u want to be nitty gritty, u can try dumping the entire "netsh show" command (eg: netsh show >myxpnet.txt) then paste that for online
[09:30] <MagePsycho> hi guys
[09:30] <ThinkT510> kjxl9: http://xchat.org/docs/xchat-4.html
[09:30] <MagePsycho> can you recommend me the good chat for ubuntu
[09:31] <yagoo> rghose, dunno about the latest, but currently on a win system siw doesnt show if ts half/full duplex.. but netsh may
[09:31] <MagePsycho> i installed it and configured for gtalk
[09:31] <MagePsycho> now how to use it for msn .. irc chat etc
[09:31] <MagePsycho> i mean setting up multiple account
[09:31] <yagoo> rghose, my err.. its actually ->netsh dump >atextfile.txt
[09:32] <rghose> yagoo: netsh ok!
[09:32] <Blou_Aap> I'm keen on trying Unity, but I changed something in Compiz Manager, and BOOM no more panels, no more anything but a desktop. not even alt-f2 works. How can I get it all back to new ?
[09:32] <Blou_Aap> if I use Classic I have no window frames
[09:33] <Blou_Aap> any way to reset EVERYTHING without losing documents, projects, etc ?
[09:33] <rghose> http://paste.ubuntu.com/605117/
[09:33] <rghose> yagoo: ^^
[09:34] <yagoo> rghose, here's a nice one for u.. this is not on the latest windows but was nice back on xp (type ->"netsh diag")
[09:35] <yagoo> rghose, u using multilink?
[09:35] <peter__> Why do ubuntu use mono?
[09:35] <rghose> yagoo: what is that?
[09:35] <yagoo> rghose, i see it enabled in the dump
[09:36] <yagoo> "add multilink type = MULTI"
[09:36] <rghose> yagoo: where?
[09:36] <yagoo> rghose, u have only 1 net connect cable to the machine right?
[09:36] <yagoo> rghose, in ur netsh dump
[09:36] <rghose> yagoo: yah.. i see it too
[09:37] <yagoo> rghose, only 1 net cable right?
[09:37] <rghose> yagoo: um... i have 1 lan card...  a cable comes out and joins an adapter... another cable comes out from this adapted and joins the bs
[09:37] <rghose> yagoo: *adapter
[09:38] <yagoo> rghose, is that adpater called lanmann electronics?
[09:38] <rghose> yagoo: w8... taking a look
[09:38] <blaine_> lol, figured my problem out
[09:38] <yagoo> or lanson electronics?
[09:39] <blaine_> I did a kernel upgrade while I had no hard drive space left, and initrd or initramfs couldn't run
[09:39] <rghose> yagoo: Carrier POE adapter... ubiquiti networks
[09:39] <blaine_> well, it couldn't /finish/
[09:39] <yagoo> blaine_, try apropos initramfs .. use the update command to generate a new initrd image
[09:40] <MagePsycho> any good chat client other than pidgin?
[09:40] <blaine_> I think apt-get is configuring it
[09:40] <blaine_> I made space available and apt-get is now re-running the config script that broke in the first place
[09:40] <yagoo> rghose, i believe thats' just a filter..
[09:40] <rghose> yagoo: ok
[09:41] <yagoo> rghose, is the cable long?
[09:41] <N0BOX> grrrr
[09:41] <rghose> yagoo: the cable from the pc to the adapter is short
[09:41] <yagoo> rghose, try to determine if hte netcard is going at half-duplex.. if it is, then force it as half-duplex in ubuntu
[09:41] <H4ns> hello people, Since i updated to natty, every time i try to retrieve my email or rss in evolution, it blocks and takes up 99% processor power. Does anyone know anything about this?
[09:41] <rghose> yagoo: the cable from the adapter is loooooong
[09:41] <yagoo> rghose, how long?
[09:42] <N0BOX> now mapping mouse buttons in compoz config dealie doesn't work
[09:42] <rghose> yagoo: it goes up 3 floors
[09:42] <yagoo> rghose, it's using rj45 ?
[09:42] <N0BOX> there is something really broken with ubuntu 11.04 on my pc
[09:42] <yagoo> rghose, for the long part
[09:43] <peter__> N0BOX, me too
[09:43] <N0BOX> brb, reboot
[09:43] <yagoo> rghose, there might be a poor physical link
[09:43] <MagePsycho> 	any good chat client other than pidgin?
[09:44] <yagoo> rghose, i had this problem with my cable company.. they came to replace a cable here
[09:44] <yagoo> rghose1, let me know when u find out if its half duplex
[09:45] <yagoo> rghose, rghose1, (netsh diag) may say so thats why i mentioned it earlier
[09:45] <rghose1> yagoo: i took out the cable to see it... :P
[09:45] <N0BOX> back
[09:45] <yagoo> rghose1, under ubuntu the mii-tool can be used to dtermine half/full duplex
[09:49] <gangil> hi I copied an executable to /usr/bin
[09:49] <rghose1> yagoo: siw does not show hallf/full duplex :(
[09:49] <gangil> but when I try starting it on terminla
[09:50] <gangil> it says bash : /usr/bin/pcc : NO such file or directory
[09:50] <rghose1> yagoo: yah it is rj45
[09:50] <rafi_> hello evryone,i have update my ubuntu 10.04 kernel recently and now i cant boot my laptop from new kernel,how can i remove this kernel?
[09:50] <yagoo> rghose1, i don have xp.. u can enter the netsh int context (eg: netsh<enter> ipv4 <enter> ?<enter> << may be difference in xp)..
[09:51] <yagoo> but alot still carries ..
[09:51] <adem> hello
[09:51] <yagoo> rghose1, u should be able to somewhere..
[09:51] <rafi_> please,some one help me please
[09:51] <adem> how can i do udptracert on ubuntu
[09:51] <rafi_> hello evryone,i have update my ubuntu 10.04 kernel recently and now i cant boot my laptop from new kernel,how can i remove this kernel?
[09:52] <yagoo> rghose1, did u try something like this? http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itpronetworking/thread/1bdbcb47-9b8d-4a04-bc76-49d1aee2392e
[09:53] <rghose1> yagoo: it's 10Mbps/Half Duples
[09:53] <rghose1> Duplex
[09:54] <yagoo> rghose1, so set it to half-duplex<< try that in ubuntu..
[09:54] <yagoo> :)
[09:54] <yagoo> maybe it will work..
[09:55] <yagoo> half duplex should be fine enough.. no need to try to set it to 10mbit..
[09:55] <rghose1> yagoo: under network connections?
[09:55] <yagoo> i guess its there..
[09:55] <rghose1> yagoo: i use nm-applet in gnome
[09:55] <yagoo> yah
[09:55] <yagoo> that uses networkmanager..
[09:55] <rghose1> yagoo: thx! I'll give it a try now... :)
[09:55] <yagoo> dont use interfaces file if u use the gui
[09:56] <yagoo> in which u do use the gui.. so its the icon
[09:56] <OO2u> Hi, has anyone EDID.bin for LCD with native resolution 1680x1050_60? If you have this file please tell me pm.
[09:58] <lobi> hello. my wirles on hp
[09:58] <lobi> dosen't work
[09:59] <lobi> after i install ubuntu version 11.04
[09:59] <lobi> any help
[09:59] <lobi> please
[09:59] <yagoo> OO2u, ??????????
[09:59] <yagoo> OO2u, edid is autodetected by the X server..
[10:00] <yagoo> OO2u, if u use something like a kvm switch that can interfere with edid
[10:00] <OO2u> yagoo, the problem is that nvidia driver cannot detect this information. So i must set up it manualy
[10:00] <tuxx-> hey guys, what daemon handles the notification popups in ubuntu?
[10:00] <yagoo> OO2u, what's between the monitor and the video card?
[10:01] <OO2u> yagoo, edid channel
[10:01] <yagoo> OO2u, is there anything other than a direct cable? (like as i said no kvm switches?)
[10:01] <OO2u> yagoo, it's a problem with notebook lcd display
[10:01] <lobi> anyone?????????????????????????
[10:02] <peter__> lobi,
[10:02] <yagoo> OO2u, lcd is extinct..
[10:02] <barf_> Is it possible to "upgrade" from a running 32-bit install to 64-bit?
[10:02] <lobi> my wirles dosen't work on 11.04
[10:02] <OO2u> yagoo, so i even don't know who is manufacture)
[10:03] <yagoo> OO2u, joking.. there's tft lcd
[10:03] <yagoo> barf_, impossible.
[10:03] <S4RY> !wireless | > lobi
[10:04] <OO2u> yagoo, so i am looking for some edid file...
[10:04] <yagoo> OO2u, for u.. u have to understand what EDID is. If edid firmware exists? possibly.. i never heard someone updateing firmwar for their monitor.
[10:04] <yagoo> OO2u, i think you mean "bios" for your laptop.. try looking into that
[10:04] <OO2u> yagoo, everybody who has this problem update firmware for their monitors)
[10:05] <yagoo> OO2u, what laptop model is it?
[10:05] <yagoo> OO2u, if its very very new it might be worth it
[10:05] <OO2u> yagoo, samsung r560-bs02
[10:06] <lil_pete> hey guys. does anybody have an idea, how i can use my keyboard-hotkeys (vol up / down) in VLC?
[10:06] <barf_> yagoo: So reinstall? Can I debootsrap a 64-bit from a running 32-bit install then?
[10:07] <sunit> I am trying to create a cron job with out any manual intervention so that a file will be run automativally in some interval. Can I write shell script which will create a cron job with out any manual intervention ?
[10:07] <AdvoWork> hi there, got a client machines thats updated to 11.04. is there any way I can get the applications menu etc back along the bottom?
[10:07] <yagoo> barf_, probably..
[10:08] <fuzzybunny69y> Hey guys is it possible to remove the workspace switcher lens in unity?
[10:08] <yagoo> barf_, debootstrap i know is stable for debian.. i dont know for ubuntu
[10:08] <lil_pete> AdvoWork: doesnt 11.04 come with a new desktop? it isnt gnome any longer afaik... try sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop, that should use your old settings... you have to select that on login
[10:08] <Mitsukaru> barf_, generally it's always a good idea to install the 64 bit version if your computer can handle it.
[10:08] <tuxx-> hey guys, i found out the gnome-panel handles the notifies send by the system. Is there any daemon that does support the same notifies which is not intergrated in gnome-panel? I'm trying to get some notification daemon to use under awesomewm, and it do not want to use the gnome-panel.
[10:09] <iridium> hi, I have a small problem, after the latest pidgin update from ubuntu, it works fine, but the notification icon on the task bar changed, and it doesn't update like before, showing the status or if somenoe answered, anyone knows anything of this?
[10:09] <thegoodcushion> Mitsukaru: that's good advice, but it's not what's on the ubuntu website
[10:09] <yagoo> barf_, how much ram u have?
[10:09] <lil_pete> does anybody have an idea how i can use my keyboard-hotkeys (vol up / down) in VLC?
[10:10] <yagoo> barf_, if u not using power hungry or more than a gig ram.. u wont see any difference going 64bit
[10:10] <AdvoWork> lil_pete, i didnt realise, thats pants
[10:10] <tuxx-> hey guys, i found out the gnome-panel handles the notifies send by the system. Is there any daemon that does support the same notifies which is not intergrated in gnome-panel? I'm trying to get some notification daemon to use under awesomewm, and it do not want to use the gnome-panel. <- think i found it, notification-daemon :-)
[10:10] <lil_pete> AdvoWork: Thats pants? whats that mean? (im not a native speaker)
[10:10] <Mitsukaru> lol thegoodcushion, it would be cool if the 32-bit ubuntu cd had a notice or something when running on a 64 bit computer. saying that the 64-bit version is advised to better take advantage of your computer's hardware.
[10:11] <thegoodcushion> Mitsukaru: yeah it should
[10:11] <lil_pete> iridium: you can set that up in pidgin... go through the settings, its a little hidden
[10:11] <thegoodcushion> I mean, I was going to download the 64-bit version, and this thing on the website said I should download the 32-bit version, now Ubuntu can't see 800 megs of my 4 gigs
[10:11] <Mitsukaru> it's nottoo important though
[10:11] <barf_> yagoo: CPU is 2x quad core X3210 there is like 8GB RAM
[10:11] <Mitsukaru> where on the website says to use the 32 bit version?
[10:11] <yagoo> barf_, then why install the 32bit :))..hehehe
[10:12] <barf_> configuring for vbox
[10:12] <yagoo> barf_, i say keep the 32bit in case
[10:12] <AdvoWork> lil_pete, im just not impressed how it changed :) is there any way to change some settings? issue being, in firefox, opened a new window(popup) and it got minimized, and the user couldnt see it, without alt-tab..
[10:12] <Mitsukaru> iirc it says use 32 bit when in doubt.
[10:12] <iridium> lil_pete, well, a purple icon with an "!" appears, but it doesn't change, can be changed to the older way?
[10:12] <Mitsukaru> anyway isnt there a way to replace every 32 bit package with a 64 bit version and preserve all of your software and files?
[10:13] <yagoo> Mitsukaru, no..
[10:13] <thegoodcushion> I reckon the 32-bit version should provide a distro-upgrade to 64 bits
[10:13] <lil_pete> iridium: sry dude no idea... i just know i searched those lil basterds forever trying to mute that thing
[10:13] <yagoo> Mitsukaru, thats why the 32bit might be ideal.. for those third party apps...
[10:14] <lil_pete> AdvoWork: just get ubuntu / kubuntu desktop... or, even better, xfce (sounds like your user doesnt see a taskbar anyway?)
[10:15] <deepak_> Hi
[10:15] <deepak_> i have question related to procmail?
[10:15] <sunit> how a shell script can create a cron job so that nobody will write in command line ?
[10:16] <yagoo> Mitsukaru, u can run 32bit apps on 64bit linux.. but not all 32bit linux apps would work
[10:16] <barf_> yagoo: Keep the 32-bit?
[10:16] <barf_> For what?
[10:16] <yagoo> barf_, yah..
[10:16] <yagoo> barf_, dunno.. in case u need an app that wont run on the 64bit..
[10:16] <yagoo> barf_, maybe skype
[10:16] <deepak_> which i use DEFAULT=/home/user/mbox procmail fetches in deferent format , but when i change the name it fetches is some other format ? any idea?
[10:16] <Mitsukaru> oh, i know. you can get apt to give you a list of all the software you have installed, and then back up your home directory. then after reinstall 64 bit, use the list to automatically reinstall everything and restore your home directory
[10:16] <yagoo> though i believe that runs properly by now on 64bit
[10:17] <yagoo> (ia32libs package needed)
[10:17] <abhinav_singh> please tell me good download manager for linux
[10:17] <Mitsukaru> barf_, i wouldnt suggest keeping the 32 bit version. i'm pretty sure that once you install ia32libs, you can run everything 32 bit ubuntu can.
[10:17] <goethe> Is there a specific way in banshee to subscribe to more unorthodox podcasts? (i.e., those that seem to link directly to an Apple iTunes podcast)
[10:17] <yagoo> Mitsukaru, i dont believe all 32bit linux oss has been transfered for 64-bit readiness
[10:18] <yagoo> abhinav_singh, download manager? are u on 56k modem?/
[10:18] <Mitsukaru> yagoo, open-source software (oss) can be compiled for any platform and likely has already been compiled for 64 bit
[10:18] <yagoo> Mitsukaru, not any platform but a good number
[10:19] <abhinav_singh> yagoo no
[10:19] <yagoo> abhinav_singh, download manager is so 1990's..
[10:19] <abhinav_singh> but still for downloading large files i need download manager
[10:19] <abhinav_singh> yagoo:
[10:19] <yagoo> the only download manager i can think of is for torrents
[10:20] <yagoo> or ftp..
[10:21] <Blou_Aap> I connot move my windows, It's so frustrating. not by title bar or by alt-drag combo
[10:21] <Blou_Aap> How would I fix this in 11.04
[10:21] <Blou_Aap> ?
[10:22] <yagoo> abhinav_singh, there's plugins for firefox if this is what u meant initially
[10:22] <barf_> yagoo: this box runs vbox headless, if I would like to run skype on it, I would run it inside a vm
[10:22] <barf_> a 32 bit vm, i e
[10:22] <ComputerChic> Does anyone know where I can go to read the #ubuntu irc Q.& A. with Mark Shuttleworth?  Or if I even can read it?
[10:22] <yagoo> barf_, ?
[10:22] <yagoo> barf_, headless?
[10:22] <yagoo> barf_, vbox cant be run headless .. what u saying?
[10:22] <rghose1> yagoo: back again... network manager did not have any such option...
[10:23] <yagoo> rghose1, is this the default gnome applet?
[10:23] <rghose1> yagoo: I edited /etc/NetworkManager/ some interface file... where there was a section on connection type
[10:23] <yagoo> rghose1, thought i saw it once..
[10:23] <yagoo> nonono
[10:23] <rghose1> yagoo: there I changed it to half (from full)
[10:23] <barf_> yagoo: I controll the VMs via RDC
[10:23] <yagoo> rghose1, just undo whatever u did in /etc..
[10:24] <yagoo> rghose1, u did?
[10:24] <yagoo> rghose1, and mii-tool shows half duplex?
[10:24] <ComputerChic> Does anyone know where I can go to read the #ubuntu irc Q.& A. with Mark Shuttleworth?  Or if I even can read it?
[10:24] <rghose1> yagoo: yeah.. I edited /etc/NetworkManager (not networkmagaer) / Auto\ eth0
[10:25] <robin0800> ComputerChic, its on omg!ubuntu! site
[10:25] <rghose1> yagoo: I didnt use mii-tools... I thought this was the setting of NetworkManager (used by nm-applet) ?
[10:25] <Blou_Aap> I cannot move my windows, It's so frustrating. not by title bar or by alt-drag combo
[10:25] <Blou_Aap> How would I fix this in 11.04
[10:25] <Blou_Aap> ?
[10:25] <ComputerChic> robin0800: Thank you :)
[10:25] <yagoo> rghose1, i believe i saw half duplex with the gnome-nm applet long ago..
[10:25] <yagoo> but i may have been dreaming..
[10:25] <yagoo> rghose1, mii-tool says what?
[10:26] <yagoo> Blou_Aap, be sure u set the proper options for compiz (ubuntu wiki)
[10:26] <yagoo> !compiz
[10:26] <rghose1> yagoo: well it's not there now... in fact in the Auto eth0 file (created by NetworkManager I suppoz)... there were all suff that made me belive that it was those settings
[10:26] <rghose1> yagoo: do i need to install mii-tools?
[10:27] <rghose1> yagoo: Or is it pre-installed (on a default installation) ?
[10:27] <yagoo> rghose1, yeah.. there's another probably ethtool that may show it.. i believe mii-tool is th epackage name
[10:27] <freeman_> how do i move the unity launcher to the bottom... ccsm isnt doing it
[10:27] <yagoo> rghose1, if mittol ask to remove networkmanager let me know..
[10:27] <robin0800> freeman_, you can't
[10:28] <yagoo> rghose1, ethtool may be another pacakge name..
[10:28] <rghose1> yagoo: ok.. thx
[10:28] <yagoo> rghose1, try apt-cache search duplex|grep -i net
[10:28] <yagoo> (apt-get update of course)
[10:29] <rghose1> yagoo: k
[10:29] <yagoo> ComputerChic, see topic
[10:29] <yagoo> rghose1, k ... ?
[10:29] <yagoo> rghose1, manpage :)
[10:29] <yagoo> lol
[10:29] <yagoo> rghose1, http://linux.die.net/man/8/mii-diag
[10:30]  * yagoo uses "manpage <>" in da googlenessess
[10:30] <iridium> hi, I have a small problem, after the latest pidgin update from ubuntu, it works fine, but the notification icon on the task bar changed to a static purple ballon with an "!", and it doesn't update like before showing the status or if someone answered, anyone knows how to solve this?
[10:30] <freeman_> robin0800, what do you think of docky?
[10:30] <yagoo> iridium, maybe their update server is down
[10:31] <rghose1> yagoo: )
[10:31] <rghose1> yagoo: preparng another reboot
[10:31] <robin0800> freeman_, I prefer awn
[10:31] <eitch0000> hi, can anyone point me to some documentation on the PAM configuration in Ubuntu? I would like to adjust the wait time on ssh login, it is driving me nuts =)
[10:31] <yagoo> reboot ?
[10:31] <yagoo> why?
[10:32] <yagoo> eitch0000, pam ?
[10:32] <freeman_> robin0800, how do i remove the unity launcher?
[10:32] <sergei> кто нить знает как в загрузочном меню местами поменять пункты
[10:32] <yagoo> eitch0000, that's more related to you loading the kernel module for the particular extension before thinking about configuration
[10:32] <sergei> в винде то оно понятно а тут только вчера поставил
[10:32] <eitch0000> yagoo, which kernel module?
[10:33] <yagoo> eitch0000, the pam option needs to be set on in the sshd config
[10:33] <yagoo> eitch0000, for the "wait" time.. that's not really a pam issue.. check the sshd_config
[10:33] <robin0800> freeman_, think you can only permanently hide it or use classic ie no unity
[10:33] <freeman_> how can i hide it i meant
[10:34] <robin0800> freeman_, ccs
[10:34] <eitch0000> yagoo, I can't see any option creating a "wait" time in ssd_config. This is why I thought it might be PAM issue
[10:35] <freeman_> i guess ill just get used to it being on the left
[10:36] <yagoo> eitch0000, u mean logingracetime? http://linux.die.net/man/5/sshd_config
[10:36] <eitch0000> yagoo, no, not the time it takes till the login is dropped, but the time it takes till I can enter the password
[10:36] <mman> i want to create an alias for ssh connection. so i want to write: ssh $nameofalias   so im doing: alias nameofalias='user@server' but this alias does not get saved
[10:37] <yagoo> eitch0000, how old are you?
[10:37] <eitch0000> I'm on a LAN and connecting to another machine, I have to wait at least 2 seconds to login
[10:37] <yagoo> "<eitch0000> yagoo, no, not the time it takes till the login is dropped, but the time it takes till I can enter the password"
[10:37] <yagoo> eh
[10:37] <eitch0000> yagoo, what on earth has that got to do with anything? =)
[10:38] <eitch0000> from the manpage: LoginGraceTime - The server disconnects after this time if the user has not successfully logged in
[10:38] <eitch0000> that is not what is bothering me =)
[10:38] <yagoo> eitch0000, how old are you?
[10:38] <yagoo> 14?
[10:38] <eitch0000> yagoo, again, what has that go to do with anything? we're not on a dating site...
[10:38] <Jasonn> xD
[10:38] <yagoo> you sound 14.. so that sounds fine
[10:39] <yagoo> there are worse things to lose than 2 seconds of your life
[10:39] <eitch0000> yagoo, I might just be older than you, so please let's just drop the silly talk about age.
[10:40] <Jasonn> *dun dun dun*
[10:40] <yagoo> eitch0000, you sound 14. you dont need to pretend.. just relax and let this case go
[10:40] <eitch0000> yagoo, I login many times to the system a day and I would like to change that.
[10:40] <yagoo> Jasonn, i smell something premature here
[10:40] <yagoo> eitch0000, upgraade to fiber optics
[10:40] <Jasonn> yagoo: yeah, me too, is it you?
[10:40] <eitch0000> yagoo, I'm 28, so now you let it go
[10:41] <yagoo> Jasonn, I use fiber optic on my lan.. i wait less than half a second for my ssh logins..
[10:41] <Jasonn> !ot | yagoo
[10:41] <yagoo> Jasonn, you do use fiber optics dont you?
[10:41] <Jasonn> yes.
[10:41] <Jasonn> 1gbit
[10:41] <yagoo> Jasonn, and how fast is your ssh login?
[10:41] <Jasonn> pretty damn fast
[10:41] <yagoo> Jasonn, i mean how fast does the password prompt show up?
[10:42] <Jasonn> but it costs like $500 to get it installed
[10:42] <yagoo> eitch0000, 500 dollars
[10:42] <Jasonn> anyways, just change the prompt time.
[10:42] <yagoo> that's the answer i guess
[10:42] <Jasonn> to like 10 seconds.
[10:43] <eitch0000> Jasonn, what do you mean, change the prompt time?
[10:43] <Jasonn> change the time that it requires you to login in
[10:43] <yagoo> Jasonn, chage ?
[10:43]  * yagoo googles chage password time
[10:43] <Jasonn> my server (offland) has 15 secsons, I set it to 3, but the logins kept failing.
[10:43] <danclark-au> hey all, does anyone know how to get past the 'it seems that you do not have the hardware required to run unity.' screen
[10:43] <danclark-au> now my g/f did an update recently which required a restart and now she can't get past this part
[10:44] <Jasonn> danclark-au: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:44] <om26er> danclark-au, is there no ok button or something?
[10:44] <Jasonn> danclark-au: run that whole command as one peice.
[10:44] <danclark-au> Jasonn: if only it was that easy
[10:44] <yagoo> danclark-au, your gf has root priviledge ?
[10:44] <yagoo> danclark-au, that's smaart
[10:44] <danclark-au> its stuck on a dialog saying 'It seems that you do not have the......
[10:44] <LAcan> where is my fstab file located?
[10:45] <om26er> LAcan, /etc/fstab
[10:45] <yagoo> danclark-au, can u login as root?
[10:45] <danclark-au> Jason: there is a close button , but it doesn't work
[10:45] <LAcan> om26er, ty
[10:45] <danclark-au> yagoo: no login prompt, just brings up that error
[10:45] <om26er> danclark-au, you have it right now?
[10:45] <danclark-au> jason: no mouse available for some reason, no pointer
[10:45] <danclark-au> om26er: yep, its on the screen
[10:45] <yagoo> danclark-au, i dont think #ubuntu is for fixing girlfriends
[10:46] <danclark-au> yagoo: yes I realise that I'll deal with her later ;)
[10:46] <om26er> danclark-au, ok, press ctrl+alt+f1
[10:46] <Jasonn> yagoo: I dont think #ubuntu is for pissing people off.
[10:46] <yagoo> danclark-au, unless ur girlfriend is ubuntu.. then u really have the right to flame in here
[10:46] <om26er> danclark-au, login there
[10:46] <yagoo> danclark-au, but this is the reason why your gf's have their own laptops
[10:46] <yagoo> :p
[10:46] <danclark-au> om26er: sorry nothing either, I can get the ALT-PRTSCRN R, E but yeh nothing
[10:47] <danclark-au> yagoo: thanks this is her laptop which has the issue...
[10:47] <om26er> danclark-au, hmm
[10:47] <diegoviola> Wayland for Ubuntu when please?
[10:47] <danclark-au> om26er: nothing if I press alt f1 etc, lik if I try to change to another shell
[10:47] <om26er> diegoviola, oneiric might let you test
[10:47] <yagoo> danclark-au, just backup her data&settings and reinst..
[10:47] <danclark-au> yagoo: meow :-(
[10:47] <om26er> (or natty already does, not usure)\
[10:47] <robin0800> danclark-au, it usually means you need to change the graphics driver
[10:48] <yagoo> danclark-au, and backup /etc /var/mail etc.. whatever needs be..
[10:48] <danclark-au> robin0800: I can't get to a shell to do any of that :(
[10:48] <FourDollars> Where is the main IRC channel for UDS? Is it #ubuntu-uds or #ubuntu?
[10:48] <danclark-au> yagoo: there has to be a back door here somehwere lol
[10:48] <om26er> there is a bug which affects alot of people where the driver becomes disabled, have seen those
[10:48] <yagoo> danclark-au, for all i know she used sid repos..
[10:48] <om26er> FourDollars, former
[10:48] <danclark-au> yeh my g/f stumbled across this
[10:49] <robin0800> danclark-au, reboot and set classic at logon
[10:49] <diegoviola> Oneiric?
[10:49] <sunit>  I am trying to create a cron job with out any manual intervention so that a file will be run automativally in some interval. Can I write shell script which will create a cron job with out any manual intervention ?
[10:49] <danclark-au> yagoo:  an update appeared and she clicked ok sure update...
[10:49] <om26er> diegoviola, next ubuntu, set to release in october
[10:49] <sunit>  I mean the shell script itself will generate the cron job
[10:49] <yagoo> danclark-au, unless you're challenging or man enough to check things out with debootstrap and live rescuecd..
[10:49] <sunit> nobody will write the cronjob in command line
[10:49] <diegoviola> Thanks
[10:49] <yagoo> or rather chroot&rescuecd
[10:49] <danclark-au> yagoo: I like a challenge, but unfortunately a little notebook pc without a cdrom drive becomes more of a challenge
[10:50] <robin0800> danclark-au, reboot and set classic at logon
[10:50] <vibhav> Helooo! I have a problem , anybody to help?
[10:50] <yagoo> not really.. just make a usb boot copy of the provided iso..
[10:50] <danclark-au> robin0800: I don't get login prompt
[10:50] <om26er> danclark-au, usb boot FTW :-)
[10:50] <eitch0000> yagoo, Jasonn, I actually found the reason for my problems. I did google every now and then, but this time I was lucky: The solution was to set UseDNS no in sshd_config. So, no more flaming me, ok?
[10:50] <danclark-au> om26er: yes actually your right, thats how I installed in the first place
[10:50] <yagoo> modern debian/ubuntu iso should be usb-bootable in one or two step transfer