[12:27] <crimsun> bug 63134
[12:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63134 in Fedora "Kernel panic - not syncing, when installing Edgy Beta1" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63134
[12:35] <gnomefreak> is that ubuntu or fedora bug?
[12:35] <crimsun> it's a Ubuntu bug linked to a Fedora bug report.
[02:06] <crimsun> bug 51734, 68833
[02:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 51734 in alsa-driver "linux-sound-base missing depends on module-init-tools" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/51734
[02:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68833 in alsa-driver "cx88_alsa (TV card) takes index 0" [Undecided,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68833
[05:03] <dufresnep> On which package a badly detected soundcard (ISAPnP one) bug should be filled on?
[05:30] <Slant_Laptop_> dufresnep: Kernel.
[05:30] <Slant_Laptop_> isapnp was moved in-kernel years ago.
[05:52] <derviche> ol, est alguem aqui?
[05:58] <ash211> puedo hablar un poco en espanol
[05:59] <ash211> !po
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <ash211> !pt
[06:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:02] <Burgundavia> !es
[06:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:26] <dufresnep> Slant_Laptop:  Thanks! (an hour later :-))
[09:26] <pradeep> is there a way to subscribe to security bugs(a bug reported as a vulnerability) automatically?
[09:34] <Burgundavia> pradeep: you need to part of the security team
[09:35] <pradeep> Burgundavia, since that needs approval, is there any other way?
[09:35] <Burgundavia> no, for good reason
[09:40] <pradeep> oh i c :(
[09:47] <Burgundavia> pradeep: if anybody could see all security bugs, the black hats would figure it out quite quickly
[09:50] <pradeep> Burgundavia, yes i understand. But a black-hat can still see a bug marked as a sec vuln through launchpad.
[09:51] <Burgundavia> umm?
[09:51] <Burgundavia> got a link to prove that?
[09:52] <pradeep> this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/68695
[09:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68695 in gnome-screensaver "Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace when the screen is locked kills the X session" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:53] <Burgundavia> you also need to tag something as confidential
[09:53] <Burgundavia> if you file a bug as a security vuln, it does both
[10:01] <pradeep> Burgundavia, are you saying the bug above should be hidden now? I can still see/search for it even if I logout.
[10:01] <Burgundavia> pradeep: no, because you did not check the "cofidential" button
[10:02] <Burgundavia> if you report a new security vuln, both of those boxes get checked
[10:03] <pradeep> ok
[10:04] <Burgundavia> however, if the bug has already become publicly available and is still a security issue, it does not make sense to make it confidential
[10:14] <crimsun> bug 68659
[10:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68659 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Certain VIA-based chipsets erroneously enable DXS support" [Low,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68659
[10:56] <Burgundavia> ajmitch: can I ask a general policy question?
[10:56] <ajmitch> you may
[10:56] <ajmitch> doesn't mean I can answer
[10:56] <Burgundavia> can I go through all the samba bugs that have nothing for over 6 months and set them as needifno?
[10:56] <Burgundavia> assuming of course, the us
[10:57] <ajmitch> certainly, if the bug is still waiting on information
[10:57] <ajmitch> waiting for information from the submitter, that is
[11:03] <Burgundavia> ok, playing with -directory package bugs
[11:03] <ajmitch> thanks
[11:04] <Burgundavia> samba is our big package
[11:46] <palski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs has a broken link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix
[03:10] <bddebian> Boo
[03:13] <tuxmaniac> bddebian>
[03:13] <tuxmaniac> I have an issue
[03:13] <bddebian> Don't we all? :-)
[03:13] <tuxmaniac> When I do a sudo gdmsetup it says
[03:13] <tuxmaniac> Unable to Access GDM Configuration file
[03:14] <tuxmaniac> similar bug report exists in bug 46193
[03:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 46193 in gdm "First attempt to login on gdm fails" [Unknown,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/46193
[03:14] <tuxmaniac> But i am able to login and all
[03:14] <tuxmaniac> I tried reinstalling every damn thing related to gdm, ubuntu desktop
[03:14] <tuxmaniac> No success
[03:14] <Hobbsee> tuxmaniac: why are you unable to access it?
[03:14] <tuxmaniac> A change in the gdm.conf file does _not_ reflect.
[03:15] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee> :( Thats why I am asking here
[03:15] <tuxmaniac> the permissions are fine
[03:15] <Hobbsee> ah, okay
[03:15] <tuxmaniac> I change the theme in gdm.conf file but it still defaults
[03:15] <tuxmaniac> event he soft link at /etc/X11 seems to be fine
[03:16] <tuxmaniac> I am wondering from where is this pciking up the configuration if it is not accessing the gdm.conf file?
[03:16] <tuxmaniac> Any clues guys??
[03:16] <tuxmaniac> Am struggling with it
[03:16] <bddebian> Dunno, sorry :_(
[03:16] <Hobbsee> what happens if you remove that file?
[03:17] <tuxmaniac> I even did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:17] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee> I have not tested that :-)
[03:17] <tuxmaniac> Should I?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> try moving it out of the way or something
[03:17] <tuxmaniac> When I access it via the Menu System-> Administrator -> Login Wndow
[03:17] <tuxmaniac> It asks for the root password and then nothing happens
[03:18] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee> ok Let me try that
[03:18] <tepsipakki> tuxmaniac: you should put your own settings in gdm.conf-custom
[03:18] <tepsipakki> see if that helps
[03:18] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> let me try what Hobbsee told and then I will give yours a shot
[03:23] <tuxmaniac> LOL. Hobbsee the system just keeps blinking
[03:23] <Hobbsee> oh dear.  that doesnt sound good
[03:23] <tuxmaniac> I mean the cursor keeps blinking If I do that
[03:24] <Hobbsee> ah
[03:24] <tuxmaniac> I had to put back the gdm.conf file and then restart to get back
[03:24] <tuxmaniac> Heh.
[03:25] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> Any idea why the system is unable to find that bloody file?
[03:25] <tepsipakki> gdmsetup is looking for gdm.conf-custom
[03:26] <tepsipakki> at least that's what is said in that file :)
[03:26] <tepsipakki> as it will make the modifications in it
[03:34] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> No success :-(
[03:34] <tuxmaniac> I created the gdm.conf-custom file still same problem
[03:34] <tepsipakki> created where?
[03:35] <tuxmaniac> /etc/gdm
[03:35] <tepsipakki> it wasn't there before?
[03:35] <tepsipakki> I mean, there was no such file
[03:35] <tuxmaniac> No
[03:36] <tepsipakki> what version is this?
[03:36] <tuxmaniac> I am using edgy
[03:36] <tepsipakki> fresh install or an upgrade?
[03:36] <tuxmaniac> 2.16.1-0ubuntu4
[03:36] <tuxmaniac> Upgrade
[03:36] <tepsipakki> try purging gdm and reinstalling it
[03:37] <tepsipakki> the file should have a correct syntax
[03:38] <tepsipakki> i think
[03:39] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> Removing gdm ...
[03:39] <tuxmaniac> hostname: Unknown host
[03:39] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> does that ring a bell?
[03:39] <tepsipakki> no
[03:39] <tepsipakki> it's something in the prerm
[03:39] <tuxmaniac> I mean logout
[03:40] <tepsipakki> make sure that /etc/gdm is clean
[03:40] <tuxmaniac> oh oh that prerm stuff
[03:40] <tepsipakki> then install
[03:41] <tuxmaniac> Yes its clean and I am reinstalls
[03:41] <tuxmaniac> reinstalling
[03:53] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> It worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Yay!!!
[03:53] <tuxmaniac> a purge and a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[03:53] <tuxmaniac> and yes. Everything is back to normalcy
[03:54] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> thanks a million
[03:54] <tepsipakki> np
[03:54] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> I got other bugs to now look into. Thats 1 down for the day :D
[03:54] <tepsipakki> me too ;)
[03:56] <tepsipakki> maybe a simple --force-confmiss or similar would've been enough
[03:56] <tepsipakki> when reinstalling
[03:57] <tepsipakki> but purge works
[04:00] <tuxmaniac> tepsipakki> hmm
[04:02] <tepsipakki> since gdm.conf* files are conffiles, they won't be created if missing
[04:02] <tepsipakki> I've been bitten by that as well
[04:03] <tepsipakki> with another package
[05:06] <lakin> ugh, laptop keeps freezing on me.  Just locks up.
[10:57] <gnomefreak> bug #62206
[10:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62206 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Marvell 88E8056 gigabyte LAN interface on asus p5b doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62206


[17:52] <Cheri703> chocolate/hazelnut ice cream = AWESOME
[17:56] <BiosElement> Yay
[17:57]  * Cheri703 made some last night and ate some a bit ago :)
[18:27] <_bbb> ever had the queen city cayanne from jeni's?
[18:27] <_bbb> recommended
[18:27] <Cheri703> no, I've only had a few from there
[18:27] <Cheri703> it's EXPENSIVE
[18:28] <_bbb> its chocolate and chili
[18:28] <_bbb> yeah
[18:28] <_bbb> i think i paid $10 for a pint
[18:29] <Cheri703> I can make mine for about $2 per pint or less, depending on if I have to buy my own goat milk or if I get it free from some people I know...
[18:30] <Cheri703> and I can make all kinds of fun flavors
[18:31] <_bbb> well yeah
[18:32] <Cheri703> and I can make about 3 batches in quick succession before the thing needs to go back in the freezer (made 3 flavors in one day a few weeks ago)
[18:35] <_bbb> sounds like work!
[18:36] <Cheri703> well, we were going to dinner with some friends
[18:37] <Cheri703> and not that much work, mix up the stuff, dump it in the thing, crank every 3-5 min
[18:37] <deejoe_> which maker do you have Cheri703?
[18:38] <_bbb> and which flavors?
[18:39] <Cheri703> http://www.amazon.com/Donvier-837409W-1-Quart-Cream-Maker/dp/B00006484E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1289327889&sr=8-1
[18:39] <Cheri703> and that day I made mint chocolate chip, strawberry, and chocolate chip cookie dough
[18:40] <Cheri703> I have also made chocolate, vanilla, chocolate hazelnut, a not-especially-successful apple cider sorbet (still working on that one)
[18:40]  * Cheri703 didn't pay $60 for an ice cream maker, mom found it for $6 at a yard sale
[18:40] <deejoe_> there's an awesome recipe for grapefruit sorbet I made years ago
[18:40] <Cheri703> ooo, that sounds refreshing
[18:40] <deejoe_> alternated between freezing on a cookie sheet and mixing in a food processor
[18:41] <Cheri703> ah, nice
[18:41] <deejoe_> I think it'd be fun to try it in a paddle-containing ice cream maker on a small scale like that
[18:41] <deejoe_> the normal back-yard ice-cream maker is far too big
[18:41] <Cheri703> I HIGHLY recommend the donvier...it's really easy and really good, and easy to clean as well
[18:41] <deejoe_> might have to be a holiday gift list item
[18:41] <deejoe_> so, thanks for the link
[18:42] <Cheri703> sure :)
[18:42] <Cheri703> I use non-cooked recipes
[18:42] <Cheri703> they are quick to melt, but I find the texture really good and much easier to pep
[18:42] <Cheri703> *prep
[18:44] <Cheri703> I use whole goat milk, easier on the system than cow milk
[18:48] <canthus13> Made from a whole goat?
[18:49] <Cheri703> yes, yes it is
[18:49] <canthus13> Ah.  I'd think you would only need the back half...
[18:49] <Cheri703> no, have to have the hooves and horns
[18:49] <deejoe_> some people like more crunch
[18:49] <Cheri703> that's what gives it flavor
[18:49] <canthus13> Mmm...
[18:50] <Cheri703> goaty goat goat
[18:50] <canthus13> Goats are tasty.
[18:50]  * canthus13 loves bbq goat.
[18:51] <Cheri703> at whatever point that I own my own property and have the space, I'll have a few dairy goats and some chickens...
[18:51] <Cheri703> protein sources that don't require death are always good if I'm raising them myself :)
[18:52]  * canthus13 has no problem slaughtering food.
[18:52] <canthus13> Can't stand pure trophy hunters, though. :(
[18:53] <canthus13> Nothing worse than finding a bloated, rotting, headless, half-skinned animal in the woods. :(  You'd think they'd have the courtesy to at least donate the meat.
[18:53] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm fine with people who hunt and EAT what they kill, or as you said, donate the meat, and I'm fine with eating meat in general, but no organs (or tongue or whatever) and I (as much as possible) avoid eating meat on the bone
[18:53] <Cheri703> if I can build the animal from the parts I'm eating, then that's not so good...also if I were to look the animal in the eye when it was alive, then be presented with meat from it, no go
[18:54] <Cheri703> so if I were producing my own food source, dairy and eggs would be about it on the protein side...
[18:54] <canthus13> Heh.
[18:55] <JonathanD> trade with a neighbor who is also producing his own food.
[18:55] <Cheri703> JonathanD: exactly, that'd work too
[18:55] <canthus13> I was watching a youtube video of some guy slaughtering his rabbits... Kinda creepy in a way.  He actually has a little dandelion garden just for the condemned.. Lets 'em get a good nibble, then shoots 'em in the back of the head.
[18:55] <Cheri703> I just couldn't go "oh, I have fed you and cared for you EVERY DAY and now I'm going to kill and eat you"
[18:55] <Cheri703> ugh, no
[18:55] <canthus13> But at the same time, he was very nice to them, right up to the end.
[18:56] <Cheri703> well, that's good, humane (ish?) practices are good, I just wouldn't be able to do it
[18:56] <Cheri703> or watch someone do it
[18:56] <Cheri703> people gore I have no problem with, animals? bad.
[18:56] <Cheri703> I watch movies where people are beaten up, killed, whatever, but some movie had a guy stomp a dog to death, I was done. that was completely off the list
[18:57]  * Cheri703 doesn't like animal abuse
[18:58] <Cheri703> food is a different story (though there are some CRAPPY practices there too)
[18:59] <deejoe_> "pets or meat?"
[18:59]  * canthus13 feels much the same.
[18:59] <canthus13> meaty pets. :P
[18:59] <canthus13> a friend of mine was mostly vegetarian because she grew up on a farm and couldn't bear the thought of eating a former pet...
[18:59] <canthus13> She'd happily eat chicken, though.. she thought they were evil little animals. :)
[19:14] <_bbb> el chupacabra!
[19:39] <canthus13> la chickencabra.
[21:51] <Buzz_> What's up Buckeyes?
[21:52] <Buzz_> I've been using ubuntu (and other linux OS) for about 4 years
[21:53] <Buzz_> was curious what you guys like for mp3 software....I'm currently using Audacious
[21:53] <Buzz_> OH...I'm on a minimal install of 10.04
[22:00] <dmcglone> Hi peeps ;-)
[22:02] <Buzz_> hi
[22:02] <dmcglone> hello Buzz_ are you the new kid on the block?
[22:04] <Buzz_> I suppose I am
[22:05] <Buzz_> been messin with ubuntu since 8.04 (I think)
[22:06] <Buzz_> am totally loving my minimal install....CLI isn't nearly as tough as I thought it would be, lol
[22:14] <dmcglone> thats cool. I've been a linux users since '93
[22:14] <Buzz_> wow, you've forgot more about linux that I know
[22:16] <Buzz_> I've messed with a few different distros....fedora, kanotix, all the buntu's, crunchbang, pclos, ect....
[22:16] <Buzz_> I keep coming back to Ubuntu
[22:18] <Buzz_> anyway, nice to find Ohio Ubuntu, I'm sure I'll be here often
[22:18] <dmcglone> :-) glad to hear
[23:31] <paultag> challah all
[23:31] <paultag> thanks dmcglone :)