[06:06] <mborzecki> morning
[06:11] <mardy> 'morning!
[06:12] <mborzecki> mardy: heya
[06:12] <mardy> about https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/glaxnimate-snap-error/24313: is libstdc++ something that people should ship in their snap packages, or should it use the one from the system?
[06:13] <mborzecki> mardy: afaict libstdc++ is in core20/18/core so part of the base
[06:15] <mborzecki> and GLIBCXX_3.4.26 symbol version appears in the binary, so maybe some configuration/environment problem?
[06:16] <mborzecki> but only in libstdc++ from core20, so maybe a wrong base? (or kf5 uses core18 still)
[06:17] <mborzecki> wouldn't be suprised if it's a binary the built on 20.04 host and just dropped into a snap
[06:17] <mborzecki> s/suprised/surprised/
[07:03] <pstolowski> morning
[07:05] <mvo> good morning pstolowski
[07:06] <mup> PR snapd#10259 closed: interfaces/dbus: allow claiming 'well-known' D-Bus names with a wildcard suffix <Created by oSoMoN> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10259>
[07:14] <mborzecki> mvo: hey
[07:14] <mborzecki> pstolowski: and hello there too
[07:21] <mvo> mborzecki: good morning!
[07:22] <mborzecki> hmm https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10241 is right now at 50MB, but some tests still fail, i've just merged master and will let it run, then we can maybe bump it to 60MB if still needed
[07:22] <mup> PR #10241: tests: set memory limit for snapd <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10241>
[07:23] <mborzecki> i guess we could run tar pipeline for snapshots, apparmor_parser and maybe something else in a separate scope but that's like accountants cooking the books tbh
[07:24] <mborzecki> anyways, still think that having an idea of an upper limit of memory requirement during the tests is useful
[07:45] <zyga> good morning guys
[07:45] <zyga> mvo spring is finally here :)
[07:45] <zyga> every morning is a joy :)
[07:50] <mardy> I have a layout rule like this:   /usr/share:
[07:50] <mardy>     symlink: $SNAP/usr/share/
[07:50] <mardy> but then snapcraft fails with this error: error: cannot pack "/root/prime": cannot validate snap "libinput-tool": layout "/usr/share" uses invalid symlink old name "/snap/libinput-tool/unset/usr/share/": must be absolute and clean
[07:51] <mardy> sounds like $SNAP is not being expanded, but why?
[07:51] <zyga> it's weird that there's 'unset' there as well
[07:52] <zyga> but it's a snapcraft side logic, I don't know what's going on there
[07:58] <mardy> oh, changing /usr/share/ to /usr/share/libinput makes it work
[08:06] <zyga> good morning pedronis
[08:12] <oSoMoN> mvo, good morning, and thanks for merging PR 10259 !
[08:12] <mup> PR #10259: interfaces/dbus: allow claiming 'well-known' D-Bus names with a wildcard suffix <Created by oSoMoN> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10259>
[08:13] <mvo> oSoMoN: thank you! I cherry picked it for 2.50, it will be part of 2.50.1 which we plan to release in ~2 weeks
[08:24] <oSoMoN> mvo, that's awesome, people at Mozilla will be happy to know that
[08:48] <sil2100> mvo: will look at the armhf pi-gadget soon!
[08:53] <mvo> sil2100: I think waveform did some work there already
[08:55] <sil2100> yay
[09:03] <sil2100> mvo: promoted the latest edge armhf snaps to beta now
[09:09] <mvo> sil2100: \o/
[09:34] <rZr> sil2100, yes thanks I confirm this problem is gone
[09:34] <rZr> the most difficult part for me is to find my usb/uart cable
[09:39] <mvo> rZr: thanks for confirming
[09:40] <rZr> yw
[10:05] <zyga> woot
[10:05] <zyga> mvo is that what I think it is?! :)
[10:24] <mvo> zyga: dtbs from the kernel - finally!
[10:24] <zyga> mvo that's amazing
[10:25] <zyga> thank you for carrying that torch all the way
[10:32] <mvo> zyga: :) thanks, appreciated. took a while but finally here
[10:38] <mardy> The manual tests with libinput show that this interface is kind of working, so reviews are welcome :-) https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10251
[10:38] <mup> PR #10251: interfaces/builtin: introduce raw-input interface <Needs Samuele review> <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10251>
[10:53] <pedronis> pstolowski: hi, is https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10182 read for re-reviews?
[10:53] <mup> PR #10182: o/snapstate: autorefresh phase1 for refresh-control <Needs Samuele review> <Refresh control> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10182>
[10:53] <pstolowski> pedronis: yes
[10:53] <pedronis> pstolowski: thx, re-queued
[10:53] <pstolowski> ty
[11:02]  * ogra gives mardy a hug, i'm waiting for such an interface since ages 🙂
[11:36] <mup> PR snapd#10260 opened: secboot: switch encryption key size to 32 byte (thanks to Chris) <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10260>
[12:16] <pedronis> ijohnson: hi, I reviewed a couple of your PRs, there are questions in both
[12:18] <pedronis> ijohnson: cachio: what's the state https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10165 ? does it just need a force merge or it's blocked on something else
[12:18] <mup> PR #10165: tests: add tests about services vs snapd refreshes  <Run nested> <Squash-merge> <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10165>
[12:22] <cachio> pedronis, the code has the +2
[12:22] <cachio> let me check the tests which failed
[12:26] <cachio> pedronis, the test failure in core18 seems to be unrelated
[12:26] <cachio> it is hte only one blocking
[12:27] <cachio> we can either re-run or force merge
[12:27] <cachio> pedronis,
[12:48] <pedronis> let's see what ijohnson says
[12:53] <ijohnson> pedronis for 10165, it's ready to land there is just that issue we found where sometimes the test fails because it installs the wrong snapd snap, I think it may actually be related to the PR mvo opened on Friday about the .local-install bug
[12:57] <mup> PR snapd#10261 opened: o/snapstate: refresh control - autorefresh phase2 <Needs Samuele review> <Refresh control> <Skip spread> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10261>
[12:58] <ijohnson> @mvo I'm probably gonna be 2-3 minutes late to SU, sorry about that a bit of a late start for me today
[14:11] <pedronis> mborzecki: I reviewed https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10252
[14:11] <mup> PR #10252: boot: reseal given keys when the respective boot chain has changed <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10252>
[14:20]  * cachio afk
[14:46] <mardy> I'm on the linter again :-) So, this line (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/interfaces/builtin/i2c_test.go#L70) is unused; should I just remove it, or is it waiting for a test to be written?
[14:47] <mardy> BTW, most of those members only get assigned to, otherwise they seem unused
[14:47] <ijohnson> mardy: probably either cargo culted from other tests or was at one point part of a test which then got refactored etc
[14:49] <ijohnson> mardy: probably not too hard to write a unit test to check for that case if you want to try, otherwise it can probably be deleted, I think we have pretty good coverage elsewhere in the codebase about that specific issue (an interface trying to be used as a different type of interface)
[14:50] <mardy> pstolowski: it looks like the commit which made it obsolete is yours (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/commit/1cf702d11819b148d228baff341c89f9cd50471b#diff-ddce5b424337522fb4e0230136dfebdede5de499d5761678ec63df822f63259a)
[14:51] <ijohnson> interestingly though it doesn't even appear to be used in that commit :-)
[14:53] <pstolowski> oh wow, 2017
[14:53] <pstolowski> sorry, i don't remember what was it about ;)
[14:53] <pstolowski> probably interface hooks work or something related, there were massive changes
[14:53] <mardy> pstolowski: no worries, I was just checking in case you would say "oh, that line is super-important, we absolutely need a test with it" :-)
[15:28] <pstolowski> mardy: so is socket AF_NETLINK and network netlink raw, actually needed in raw-input interface?
[15:33] <pedronis> pstolowski: I suspect so to talk with udev, we have the same in raw-usb
[15:34] <pedronis> pstolowski: I reviewed https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10182 and https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10187, they look good in itself but I have some more general questions/comments. Let me know if you have questions for me
[15:34] <mup> PR #10182: o/snapstate: autorefresh phase1 for refresh-control <Needs Samuele review> <Refresh control> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10182>
[15:34] <mup> PR #10187: o/hookstate, o/snapstate: print revision, version, channel with snapctl --pending <Needs Samuele review> <Refresh control> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10187>
[15:34] <pstolowski> i see
[15:34] <pedronis> s/itself/themselves/
[15:36] <pedronis> mvo: there seem to be real spread failures in https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10260, maybe some of the spread tests need changes too?
[15:36] <mup> PR #10260: secboot: switch encryption key size to 32 byte (thanks to Chris) <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <Squash-merge> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10260>
[15:37] <mvo> pedronis: yeah, I'm looking at those right now, thanks
[15:55] <pstolowski> pedronis: thanks for the reviews
[16:00] <mup> PR snapcraft#3520 opened: package-repositories: remove experimental flag <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3520>
[16:04] <ijohnson> pedronis: one question https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10217#discussion_r630319089
[16:04] <mup> PR #10217: o/servicestate: restart slices + services on modifications <Needs Samuele review> <quota> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10217>
[16:06] <pedronis> mborzecki: I have a question in https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10253
[16:06] <mup> PR #10253: boot: helpers for manipulating current and good recovery systems list <Run nested> <⛔ Blocked> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10253>
[16:08] <pedronis> ijohnson: I answered
[16:09] <ijohnson> pedronis: thanks I will take your suggestion
[16:48] <ijohnson> ugh why is systemd so hard
[16:48]  * ijohnson lunches
[18:05] <ogra> ijohnson, because it replaced upstart which was so wobbly ... 🙂
[22:28] <mup> PR snapd#10262 opened: tests/nested/manual: add test for install-device + snapctl reboot <Run nested> <Test Robustness> <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10262>


[00:39] <mtaylor> where can I file questions about translations?
[00:39] <mtaylor> I've had a new .pot file in "Needs Review" status for over a week now.
[01:33] <thumper> mtaylor: if you file the question against launchpad it will be shuffled to the right person
[01:34] <mtaylor> thumper: ok. so just against launchpad itself...
[01:34] <mtaylor> thanks
[01:34] <thumper> yes
[01:43] <outime> Hey guys... how it's possible that I've activated "restricted translations" to my project, and the members of the translation group can't make any changes?
[02:30] <lifeless> can I delete bug comments like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-hg/+bug/53220/comments/2 yet ?
[02:30] <lifeless> they are total noise
[03:18] <radix> lifeless: who _is_ that guy
[03:19] <radix> is he a robot?
[03:19] <wgrant> I doubt it.
[03:19] <wgrant> It's normal Ubuntu policy to do that.
[03:19] <radix> I've seen a bunch of comments with that exact text
[03:19] <wgrant> But he apparently decided to start outside Ubuntu.
[03:19] <radix> oh, fun
[03:20] <radix> he did that to a bug I was subscribed to when it was clear that it was the maintainer who needed to respond to the information provided, not the reporter who needed to provide more information
[03:20] <radix> that was pretty annoying
[03:20] <radix> or maybe someone who uses the same form letter, I dunno
[03:20] <wgrant> Yes, some people aren't robots but certainly act like them.
[03:35] <ajmitch> makes for easy bug triage, and big numbers at the end of the day
[03:48]  * Hobbsee smashes head against the wall
[03:48] <Hobbsee> how the hell am i supposed to find anything on this new abomination of a page?
[03:49] <Hobbsee> oh.  there.  far right hand side, in the middle of the page.  thanks, page find.
[03:50] <wgrant> Which page now?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> Source and binaries deleted by Sarah Hobbs request:
[03:50] <Hobbsee> should be s/by/at/, too
[03:50] <Hobbsee> wgrant: +archive.  trying to delete package.s
[03:51] <wgrant> Ah.
[03:59] <lifeless> ajmitch: what he's doing is not triage
[04:00] <lifeless> I mailed him
[04:00] <lifeless> its his first time working on bugs
[04:01] <lifeless> and 'someone' told him a bug with no comment in a while can be closed
[04:01] <wgrant> Was it even Incomplete?
[04:01] <Hobbsee> i do note that on the bug days, a lot of people don't seem to be around.
[04:02] <lifeless> wgrant: it was incomplete; but that's really not important
[04:02] <lifeless> sorry, it was 'status incomplete'
[04:03]  * Hobbsee tells the guy who feels he's helping by pointing out wishlist bugs, only, that he should find better things to do.
[04:03] <lifeless> Hobbsee: but will he still be able to walk when you've told him
[04:04] <Hobbsee> lifeless: yeah.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:04] <lifeless> you're getting soft
[04:04] <lifeless> :)
[04:05] <Hobbsee> he's missed the point completely.
[04:05] <Hobbsee> ah well
[04:07] <Hobbsee> i guess people like to feel like they're making a difference, when, for all intents and purposes, they aren't, and coudl be replaced with a very small shell script
[06:18] <emgent> some launchpad dev here?
[06:19] <mwhudson> yes, but: it's my sunday afternoon :)
[06:20] <emgent> heheh true
[07:49] <khajavi> Help. I create a new project in launchpad https://code.launchpad.net/~khajavi/+junk/yastwitt and now I add two subscriber to this project. subscribers of my project cant update the branch
[07:51] <khajavi> how can I set their permissions to edit Branch?
[07:51] <wgrant> khajavi: That's correct - subscription grants no rights.
[07:51] <wgrant> You've also not created a project, merely a branch.
[07:51] <wgrant> You want https://launchpad.net/projects/+new to register a project.
[07:52] <wgrant> You should then create a team, and add to that the people who should be able to write to the branch.
[07:52] <wgrant> Then change the ownership of the branch to that new team.
[07:52] <khajavi> wgrant: thanks
[08:58] <capiscuas1982> I have a question, I registered a new project in LaunchPad, also a new branch
[08:58] <capiscuas1982> how can I get the branch from bzr ?
[08:58] <capiscuas1982> i get this
[08:59] <capiscuas1982> yen@yen-laptop:/tmp/babiloo$ bzr branch lp:babiloo
[08:59] <capiscuas1982> Enter passphrase for key '/home/yen/.ssh/id_rsa':
[08:59] <capiscuas1982> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:59] <mwhudson> capiscuas1982: you need to push to the branch
[08:59] <mwhudson> capiscuas1982: registering the branch in the webapp doesn't create the filesystem-level branch
[08:59] <capiscuas1982> how to?
[09:00] <mwhudson> create the branch locally: bzr init babiloo-trunk
[09:01] <mwhudson> then add some files, commit them or whatever
[09:01] <mwhudson> then push the branch to launchpad: bzr push lp:babiloo (from inside the branch directory)
[09:02] <capiscuas1982> oh, many thanks, let me try
[09:06] <capiscuas1982> i did yen@yen-laptop:/tmp/babiloo$ bzr push lp:babiloo --use-existing-dir , and it worked
[09:06] <capiscuas1982> mwhudson: thanks
[09:06] <mwhudson> cool
[09:06] <mwhudson> sorry for this being so confusing :)
[09:09] <capiscuas1982> hehe, no problem, now I got this on the site https://code.launchpad.net/~babiloo-developers/babiloo/trunk
[09:09] <capiscuas1982> Repository format:  	Packs containing knits without subtree support
[09:10] <capiscuas1982> is that normal? when I will get subtree support, when I'll commit some folder ?
[09:10] <mwhudson> that's entirely normal, yes
[09:11] <mwhudson> 'subtree support' is about having branches that contain other branches
[09:11] <mwhudson> rather than just files and directories
[09:11] <Peng_> (Also, it's more or less experimental.)
[09:11] <mwhudson> (we should display less confusing messages here, i think there's a but about this somewhere)
[09:11] <mwhudson> Peng: more than less, i think...
[09:13] <capiscuas1982> I cannot see the messages
[09:13] <capiscuas1982> Get this branch: 	bzr branch lp:babiloo
[09:13] <capiscuas1982> Update this branch: 	bzr push lp:babiloo
[09:13] <capiscuas1982> in the site
[09:13] <capiscuas1982> will this appear later?
[09:14] <mwhudson> sorry, i don't really understand
[09:14] <mwhudson> fwiw, *I* see "You cannot upload to this branch. Members of The Developers of the Babiloo Project  can upload to this branch. "
[09:17] <capiscuas1982> that is normal right? only us, developers should have right to commit in that branch
[09:18] <mwhudson> right
[13:07]  * RainCT notes again that the remove dependency from blueprints feature is broken
[13:54] <gnomefreak> im getting dpkg-buildpackage errors from PPA builds but builds fine localy
[13:55] <gnomefreak> to be exact FAILED [dpkg-buildpackage died]
[13:55] <gnomefreak> Purging chroot-autobuild/build/buildd/firegpg-0.5.1
[13:56] <wgrant> Your build process is buggy.
[13:56] <wgrant> What's the actual error? That's not it.
[13:57] <Ursinha> gnomefreak, what the log says?
[13:57] <gnomefreak> make: *** No rule to make target `firegpg.xpi', needed by `stamp-extension-install'.  Stop.
[13:57] <gnomefreak> dpkg-buildpackage: failure: /usr/bin/fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2
[13:57] <wgrant> There's your problem.
[13:57] <gnomefreak> full log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16689185/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.firegpg_0.5.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[13:57] <gnomefreak> wgrant: it builds fine localy
[13:57] <Ursinha> let me see
[13:58] <wgrant> gnomefreak: In a pbuilder or similar?
[13:58] <gnomefreak> my system
[13:58] <gnomefreak> neither i built it on my intrepid system
[13:58] <Ursinha> gnomefreak, you should test on a clean environment
[13:58] <gnomefreak> i just built and uploaded hardys that was in a chroot
[13:58] <Ursinha> maybe your package is missing to require dependencies
[13:59] <gnomefreak> Ursinha: there arnt any
[13:59] <gnomefreak> there is one build-dep
[13:59] <wgrant> gnomefreak: You cannot assert that it builds fine locally unless you do it in a pbuilder or sbuild.
[13:59] <Ursinha> gnomefreak, have you tried to build it in a fresh intrepid image?
[13:59] <Ursinha> agree with wgrant
[13:59] <gnomefreak> Ursinha: this is about as fresh as it gets
[14:00] <Ursinha> gnomefreak, you have to try it with pbuilder
[14:00] <Ursinha> and if it builds ok, try to figure out what can it be
[14:00] <wgrant> Soyuz's buildd setup does some strange things, but that's not one of them.
[14:00] <Ursinha> but for now it's inaccurate to assume that
[14:00] <gnomefreak> Ursinha: fine ill try my intrepid chroot but since 2 of us built it and it build fine i doubt it will change
[14:00] <wgrant> build.sh: 112: zip: not found
[14:00] <wgrant> Your build dependencies lose.
[14:00] <Ursinha> gnomefreak, see?
[14:01] <gnomefreak> zip build-dep maybe upstream changed it but that isnt my fault is it?
[14:02] <gnomefreak> let me see if its in build-deps
[14:02] <Ursinha> guess it should
[14:02] <persia> gnomefreak: Only in the sense that you didn't test in a clean environment to check.
[14:02] <gnomefreak> its not there upstream had to of added it with 0.5.1
[14:02] <gnomefreak> persia: i tested it on a clean system
[14:03] <wgrant> Isn't an XPI just a ZIP in the first place?
[14:03] <wgrant> gnomefreak: That doesn't count.
[14:03] <persia> gnomefreak: Yes, but not sufficiently clean.
[14:03] <wgrant> ubuntu-desktop is *enormous*.
[14:03] <gnomefreak> other than tbird and a few other packages its clean
[14:03] <wgrant> Not clean.
[14:03] <wgrant> Very very polluted.
[14:03] <Ursinha> gnomefreak, clean is fresh
[14:03] <gnomefreak> enormous wont change outcome
[14:03] <wgrant> It will.
[14:03] <persia> Umm.  Even a system with X is not clean (personally, I think even a system with ubuntu-minimal is not clean)
[14:03] <wgrant> You must depending on anything that isn't build-essential.
[14:03] <wgrant> *must be depending
[14:04] <wgrant> Not just stuff that isn't in ubuntu-desktop.
[14:04] <Ursinha> persia, hm, i'm calling clean a system that was just created by pbuilder
[14:04] <persia> Also, the way that something builds may vary if other things are installed on the local system than that appearing in the build-depends.
[14:04] <gnomefreak> wgrant: it never had zip as a build-dep until 0.5.1
[14:04] <gnomefreak> so i will add it adn rebuild
[14:04] <persia> gnomefreak: Right.  Upstream changed stuff.  It's good to check.
[14:04] <Ursinha> gnomefreak, that's why you should have a fresh and clean install
[14:04] <Ursinha> things may change and you won't notice them
[14:05] <wgrant> You must always test in a proper environment before uploading.
[14:05] <Ursinha> unless you test properly
[14:05] <persia> Ursinha: One should *build* in a buildd environment, and test in a clean install.
[14:06] <Ursinha> persia, yes, that is what i tried to say, thanks
[14:06] <Ursinha> the idea, i mean
[14:25] <khajavi> I create a https://launchpad.net/yastwitt project, how can I add members(developer) to it?
[14:27] <persia> khajavi: You'd need an associated group
[14:27] <persia> s/group/team/
[14:28] <khajavi> you mean that I would create new team?
[14:29] <khajavi> persia: ^
[14:29] <capiscuas1982> hi guys, why there is no button in LP to remove/rename releases?
[14:50] <RainCT> capiscuas1982: you can change the code name clicking on "Change details"
[14:50] <RainCT> about the release name, I guess that's because it would change the URLs (dunno why you can't remove one, though)
[14:51] <persia> Maybe in the spirit of not changing history?
[14:55] <RainCT> maybe, but UI's should forgive. if you can't remove releases, if you create one accidentally you're screwed
[14:58] <sabdfl> +1 to that, RainCT
[14:59] <Hobbsee> RainCT: but russian roulette is fun!
[15:01] <persia> RainCT: Hmm.  I see the point.  I fear removals while external links exist, but fixing mistakes is always nice.
[15:04] <RainCT> persia: Right, but you can already remove downloadable files, so you can break links anyway
[15:05] <persia> RainCT: Ah.  That takes away any value for preserving releases then.
[15:32] <khajavi> help, I want to push my project but I get following error:  bzr push lp:yastwitt
[15:32] <khajavi> Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[15:33] <khajavi> how can I push my project via bzr+ssh ?
[15:35] <khajavi> anyone could help me?
[15:37] <RainCT> khajavi: Have you added your SSH key(s) to Launchpad?
[15:37] <khajavi> yes
[15:37] <khajavi> I know that I cant edit branch by http protocol
[15:37] <khajavi> how can I use another protocol
[15:38] <RainCT> khajavi: and have you done  bzr lp-login <username>  ?
[15:39] <RainCT> Uhm... If there's any dev around, is it possible to use launchpadlibs without authenticathing, for read-only operations (so that we can use it for REVU)?
[15:41] <khajavi> RainCT: thanks for your response :-D
[15:41] <RainCT> khajavi: you're welcome :)
[16:51] <Leefmc> Question: Does Launchpad project hosting offer a wiki? I'm not seeing one, but it feels weird that they offer so much, but no wiki
[16:53] <RainCT> Leefmc: No, it doesn't.
[16:53] <Leefmc> odd
[16:53] <Leefmc> k thanks
[16:54] <Leefmc> RainCT: And just to make sure, does it provide something 'like' a wiki? (Some place to store docs, etc)
[16:55] <RainCT> Leefmc: Well, perhaps the Answers tracker (which also lets you create a FAQ), but I don't think that's what you want
[16:56] <Leefmc> RainCT: Hmm yea. Very odd hah :), any idea why no wiki is provided? It seems launchpads features are pretty extensive, but a wiki is a pretty basic item these days
[16:56] <Leefmc> (not complaining, just inquiring)
[16:58] <RainCT> Leefmc: Because there's more prioritary stuff they have to work on first, I guess
[16:58] <Leefmc> gotcha :)
[16:59] <RainCT> Leefmc: If you just want to create some pages, there are wikis where you can do that (I remember that I've heard about a wiki for Qt applications, but I don't know where it was..)
[17:00] <Leefmc> Yea, its just that i cant find anything, just more that i'd prefer it to be all in one place :). No biggie
[17:03] <Leefmc> erm. just=not
[17:03] <Leefmc> *drinks more coffee
[22:42] <hansengel> Hi, I was just trying to get the API working.. it was doing fine with GET requests, but now I've tried to do a PUT request and it keeps telling me 'Unknown consumer (None).'
[22:42] <hansengel> Here's my curl command:
[22:43] <hansengel>  curl -iX PUT -H "Content-Type: application/json" https://api.edge.launchpad.net/beta/bugs/249722 -d "{'oauth_token':'<token>','oauth_signature_method':'PLAINTEXT','oauth_signature':'&<secret token>','oauth_consumer_key':'just testing','oauth_timestamp':'$(ts)','oauth_nonce':'<nonce>','oauth_version':'1.0','description':'apitest'"
[22:44] <hansengel> oh :P didn't put brace at the end of the JSON.. will try that
[22:44] <hansengel> nope, still isn't working
[22:45] <hansengel> by the way - `ts` is a program that I wrote - returns a Unix timestamp
[22:45] <hansengel> am I not supposed to put the OAuth stuff inside JSON?


[12:23] <ajohnstone> Can anyone explain why such a simple upstart fails to write to /tmp/? https://gist.github.com/4387936
[12:26] <ajohnstone> Updated gist here... https://gist.github.com/4387977
[12:30] <ajohnstone> upstart 1.5-0ubuntu7  - if that makes any difference?
[14:46] <JanC> ajohnstone: I'm not sure why it doesn't write to /tmp/ but your "service" exits immediately and thus will get into a respawn loop?
[14:47] <ajohnstone> JanC: How can I debug what is going on better?
[14:48] <ajohnstone> I've noticed on occassion it hanging to stop/start the service... I assume this to be in a respawn loop?
[14:49] <JanC> that job file makes no sense at all, so I assume what you are really trying to do is something else?
[14:50] <ajohnstone> Yup, was trying to go back to bare basics to work out what the hell is going on
[14:51] <JanC> this doesn't look like "bare basics" equivalent to any real world type of job
[14:51] <JanC> you might want to use a "console log" stanza and not use redirects for you echos
[14:53] <ajohnstone> When using console log or console output neither seemed to get pipped to syslog.
[14:54] <ajohnstone> What I'm really trying to run. https://gist.github.com/4388880 The pre-start script never executes.
[14:54] <JanC> 'console log' logs to a file in /var/log/upstart/
[14:54] <ajohnstone> Arr, stupid me:P
[14:56] <JanC> the "start on startup" in there might make it start before /tmp/ is available?
[14:57] <JanC> you also have 2 "respawn" stanzas and two "stop on" stanzas, only the last one will be used
[14:59] <JanC> ajohnstone: did you read the cookbook yet?  (see /topic )
[14:59] <ajohnstone> tbh, skimmed it somewhat
[15:07] <ajohnstone> Is it possible to capture the status event and execute a script before status?
[15:08] <JanC> no (there is some talk about that, I think, but currently it doesn't exist)
[15:12] <ajohnstone> JanC: Thanks for your help so far, much appreciated. Hope you had a good Christmas.
[15:21] <JanC> hm, looks like there is a graphite-carbon package in Ubuntu
[15:21] <JanC> which has a sysvinit script that might give you some inspiration
[15:22] <JanC> (or which you might prefer to use)
[15:25] <ajohnstone> It doesn't support instances I don't believe, think I looked at it already.
[15:26] <ajohnstone> Ends up with python being pegged to a single core, so need to balance the traffic.
[15:40] <SpamapS> ajohnstone: are you sure the pre-start never runs? perhaps /opt/graphite is not a directory?
[15:40] <SpamapS> ajohnstone: try 'initctl log-priority info'
[15:40] <ajohnstone> It does exist, I have removed that check previously.
[15:41] <ajohnstone> On that machine it does not have "/var/log/upstart" btw
[15:42] <SpamapS> ajohnstone: and really.. console log is what you want.. logging to /var/log/upstart/jobname-instance.log with built in rotation is a nice win :)
[15:42] <SpamapS> oh
[15:42] <SpamapS> create that dir
[15:42] <SpamapS> its part of the upstart pkg IIRC
[15:43] <ajohnstone> Heh, now I fee silly :) Permission denied: '/opt/graphite/storage/log/carbon-cache/carbon-cache-e/console.log
[15:44] <ajohnstone> Thanks for both your help :D
[15:46] <SpamapS> :)
[16:21] <JanC> hm, seems like Canonical uses graphite too?
[16:23] <ajohnstone> Its pretty good, at peak was doing 1.2 million stats a second, across haproxy, 3 carbon-cache and 2 relay servers. Very handy when you can change the charts around and contrast different things.
[16:29] <JanC> not sure what they use it for, but they are listed on the "who is using graphite" page  ☺
[16:30] <JanC> together with some companies that probably have way more stats/charts than them  ☺


[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[14:50] <dholbach> davidcalle, it drives me nuts - there's markdown with its way of thinking of what HTML should look like, there's beautifulsoup which we use to rewrite links and then there's the text-editor plugin which is what's beneath RawHTML, which also play around with the HTML
[14:50] <dholbach> somehow I'm stuck between them :)
[14:50] <dholbach> but I'll figure it out
[15:30] <davidcalle> dholbach: can I help?
[15:31] <dholbach> I think I'll try to solve this still today and if I don't fix it today, we can take a fresh look at it together on Monday?
[15:40] <davidcalle> dholbach: ok. Do you see something odd with https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/advertise-articles/+merge/286788 ? At the top of the diff, there is "Failed to fetch available diffs." and when I try to top-approve, it changes to "Approved", but stays orange and goes back to needs review when I refresh the page.
[15:40] <dholbach> shall I commit an empty commit message to see if that 'fixes' LP?
[15:40] <dholbach> I think there was an issue when I pushed the branch
[15:40] <dholbach> something in LP
[15:41] <davidcalle> dholbach: you can try that, yeah
[15:41] <dholbach> done
[15:42] <dholbach> looks better - let me know if it works for you now?
[15:44] <davidcalle> dholbach: I can't even comment on it, the comment button turns red and I get and empty error message box. Can you add a comment to the mp?
[15:44] <dholbach> yep
[15:44] <davidcalle> Meh.
[15:45] <dholbach> shall I try to top approve it?
[15:45] <davidcalle> dholbach: worked from Chrome
[15:46] <dholbach> bizarre
[15:46] <davidcalle> Bad Firefox, bad!
[16:55] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you think stripping any "aria-hidden=true" bits in  tags will hurt?  >:-)
[16:55] <dholbach> I don't know WTF they come from, what they're good for, but I think they're what's giving me headaches
[16:57] <davidcalle> dholbach: apparently it "Indicates that this section of the document and its children are hidden from the rendered view." I don't think that applies to our use case, imho, you can ditch them :)
[16:59] <dholbach> it's not all, apparently the elements with in the anchor are all moved around:
[16:59] <dholbach>
Test

[16:59] <dholbach> I'm considering turning off the auto-header-anchoring :-P
[17:00] <davidcalle> dholbach: any idea where this ^ mess comes from?
[17:01] <davidcalle> Looks like wiki -> html
[17:01] <davidcalle> Which is sad :p
[17:01] <dholbach> I think it's one of the markdown extensions
[17:01] <dholbach> I'll try to turn it off just to see if that helps ;-)
[17:03] <dholbach> now there's still some rewriting going on, whenever we say plugin.body = html
[17:03] <dholbach> I'll try to figure out what it is and how we can emulate it
[17:03] <dholbach> I thought it was from djangocms_text_ckeditor.html import clean_html
[17:03] <dholbach> I mean the clean_html function
[17:13] <dholbach_> looks like hexchat is not the cleverest in figuring out when disconnected :)
 I think it's one of the markdown extensions
 I'll try to turn it off just to see if that helps ;-)
 now there's still some rewriting going on, whenever we say plugin.body = html
 I'll try to figure out what it is and how we can emulate it
 I thought it was from djangocms_text_ckeditor.html import clean_html
 I mean the clean_html function
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15207399/ is where I am right now
 I think I'll call it a day now
 if you're very bored, give it a try, but it's probably better to call it a day and start enjoying the weekend :-)
[17:14] <dholbach_> davidcalle, ^ :)
[17:15] <davidcalle> dholbach: will give it a shot this weekend, kids at their grandparents :)
[17:16] <dholbach> have a great weekend davidcalle!
[17:16] <davidcalle> dholbach: same :)
[17:16] <dholbach> I'll do my best :-D


[04:39] <ixxvil> anyone awae
[09:40] <katie> mpt - document about sim related ui
[09:40] <katie> mpt https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1FyQXYlVoGJxIVAr_2ofvZl0au1F1Xv2ek5zydr2ziaM/edit#
[09:43] <mpt> ta


[05:35] <fluvvell> what does it mean when b2c2-flexcop: no frontend driver found for this B2C2/Flexcop adapter comes up during boot, and I don't get any cards.  The card loaded on another machine just right.  It all happended after I did a dist-upgrade
[05:35] <fluvvell> should I (and how) reload all the kernel drivers or something?
[05:37] <fluvvell> I'm showing a <IP_ADDRESS>-generic-pae kernel on an AMD Gigabyte motherboard that has worked fine up until a week ago
[05:38] <fluvvell> but there were some major internet dropouts on the street the day we did the dist-upgrade
[05:39] <fluvvell> its listed in lspci this time, now that I've installed mythbuntu-desktop
[08:37] <dekarl> fluvvell: whats the kernel version of the other machine?
[08:38] <dekarl> the only hits wrt that message are related to getting a http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechniSat_SkyStar_S2 to work by patching the kernel source


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[02:52] <jbicha> Trevinho: hi, can you push your mutter work to the ubuntu/master git branch?
[05:33] <duflu> On that note I am seeing gnome-shell crashes in live sessions with 41.  How was yours?
[08:24] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va, au sec avant une semaine de pluie. Et toi ?
[08:24] <jpnurmi> good morning seb128 and didrocks
[08:25] <seb128> didrocks, un peu pareil, c'est la tempête là et il va faire mauvais temps pour la semaine
[08:26] <seb128> duflu, it was alright, didn't do much since the kids are sick (fever, blocked nose), got one tested negative for covid yesterday and the other one is getting tested today...
[08:26] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi
[08:26] <seb128> oh, also we watched the australia tennis open final which was quite nice
[08:27] <jpnurmi> the weather was pretty rough here with 25 m/s wind most of the weekend. i certainly got some fresh air through the ventilation channels but we didn't go out much
[08:29] <seb128> :-(
[08:30] <jibel> salut seb128
[09:56] <ricotz> good morning desktopers! :)
[09:56] <didrocks> hey ricotz!
[09:57] <oSoMoN> good morning jpnurmi, didrocks, seb128 and ricotz
[10:00] <ricotz> hey didrocks oSoMoN
[10:06] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[10:50] <Nafallo> hi all :-)
[10:50] <Nafallo> not really good morning anymore on this side of the screen ;-)
[10:52] <slyon> Hi seb128, we've been talking about systemd-oomd a while ago. It is now available in the archive and I was wondering what would be the best way to enable it on the desktop, where good integration is already in place? Would you mind giving your review on https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+git/ubuntu-meta/+merge/414791 if you find a spare cycle?
[10:59] <seb128> slyon, hey, thanks for the ping. Do you know about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement ?
[11:00] <slyon> I didn't do any seed changes hands-on, so let me read up on that
[11:01] <seb128> slyon, the package is generated from the seeds so that's the level where you want to mp changes
[11:04] <slyon> oh I see, thanks for the hint. I'll be preparing another MP then
[11:04] <seb128> slyon, do you consider it to be a desktop specific feature?
[11:06] <slyon> seb128: yes. In theory sd-oomd works anywhere, but in practice it needs some swap space available to work properly. So I'm considering it to be a desktop specific feature, at least for the time beeing (there have been some improvements to sd-oomd updatream wrt. swap management)
[11:06] <seb128> slyon, depending where you want to enable it, https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/tree/desktop-common could be right if it should be for other desktop flavors
[11:06] <seb128> slyon, or https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/tree/desktop-minimal if you want it for ubuntu-desktop only
[11:08] <seb128> slyon, but yes other +1 from us to enable it
[11:10] <slyon> thanks! So I'd probably go with desktop-minimal for now, and I will reach out to the flavor leads in parallel, so they can enable it on their own if they want to. I think not all desktop environments are already prepared as nicely as GNOME (and KDE) are wrt. to cgroup isolation of the different processes. So a process going bonkers on a non-GNOME DE could potentially make sd-oomd kill lots of unrelated applications.
[11:13] <seb128> right
[11:13] <seb128> it makes sense to start with desktop-minimal and let other flavor decide for themself
[11:33] <slyon> seb128: thanks for the +1! I've now created: https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/+merge/414794 (I'm still reading up on if I need to follow any other process other than getting +1 from the desktop team for this change, and upading+uploading the meta package after the seed change got published)
[12:26] <seb128> slyon, thanks, I gave a review +1 now
[13:05] <jbicha> good morning y'all
[13:16] <slyon> Thank you for the review approval!
[13:21] <seb128> jbicha, howdy, how is it going?
[13:26] <jbicha> There is frost on my south Florida front yard!
[13:27] <jbicha> It's like frosting on top of an amazing day 🧁
[13:29] <ricotz> hello jbicha slyon seb128
[13:29] <jbicha> ricotz: hi :)
[13:30] <didrocks> hey jbicha, welcome here! :)
[13:34] <ricotz> could someone retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash/1:4.8-1build1/+build/23053252
[13:36] <oSoMoN> ricotz, done
[13:36] <oSoMoN> is this known to be flaky?
[13:37] <ricotz> oSoMoN, not sure, might be glib2.0 (2.71.0) related
[13:37] <oSoMoN> hey jbicha, welcome aboard!
[13:38] <jbicha> thanks, thrilled to be here
[13:38] <ricotz> jbicha, oh, congrats!
[13:39] <jbicha> 😁
[13:40] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I was looking at https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/python3.10-default.html
[13:50] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[13:53] <ricotz> seb128, all good here :), I am hoping for you too
[13:54] <seb128> ricotz, I am, thanks!
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[15:41] <juliank> Shouldn't gnome-shell be running each app in its own scope below app.slice?
[15:42] <juliank> Because they all run in session-2.scope right now, when I launch them from the shell
[15:42] <juliank> From the shell meaning by starting an app from the .desktop file via shortcut based on the dock
[15:47] <juliank> snapped apps have the right scope at least
[15:52] <juliank> freshly booted jammy fwiw
[15:52] <juliank> "Testing out" systemd-oomd :D
[15:58] <juliank> filed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1959596
[16:09] <seb128> Trevinho, ^
[16:11] <Trevinho> yeah we got a bug upstream, but I thought was fixed... Will look further
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[12:49] <mup> Bug #1866325 changed: MAAS KVM (Pods) on Power wasn't able to spawn VMs <ppc64el> <MAAS:Fix Released by ltrager> <The Ubuntu-power-systems project:Fix Released by maas> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866325>
[14:00] <artur68> hi,
[14:04] <artur68> do you know if there is possibility to customise username/password of ipmi user during enlisting? Without manually adding host?


[07:22] <ovidiu-florin> hello world, I have a printer that I could install with no problem in Kubuntu 12.04 and cannot install in 12.10. I have the exact same settings and it does not work anymore.
[07:32] <ovidiu-florin> why does the checkbox Reject Pring Jobs Exist? and most importantly why is it checked by default?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> ovidiu-florin: what printer?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> maybe we dont support it anymore
[07:36] <ovidiu-florin> A toshiba E-Studio 250
[07:36] <ovidiu-florin> but I use the driver for 205 and it mostly works
[07:37] <ovidiu-florin> I got it working after I unchecked the Reject Printing Jobs option
[08:39] <robinhood> hi all
[09:47] <N8Wulf> g'day all
[09:49] <N8Wulf> I'm new to kde and plasma and stuck with something small: how do I switch Workspaces? with gnome I pressed Cntrl+Alt & Left /right
[09:55] <tsimpson> N8Wulf: Ctrl-F#, you can configure it in System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts, select the KWin component and type "desktop" into the search field
[10:08] <N8Wulf> thank you
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:35] <dividia> hi whats up?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> coffee!
[13:46] <ilmari_> any LOL players?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> LOL?
[13:47] <joutsi> League Of Legends
[13:48] <lordievader> !ot | joutsi
[13:49] <joutsi> im having trouble installing LOL on Kubuntu
[13:49] <BluesKaj> probly needs wine
[13:49] <lordievader> joutsi: Ah sorry, disregard the factoid.
[13:49] <joutsi> yeh, im reading this: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2957372
[13:50] <joutsi> and stuck on part 5 "python lol_linux.py texture_patch"
[13:51] <joutsi> error msg is: /usr/bin/python: can't open file 'lol_linux.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[13:51] <joutsi> and I have that file
[13:51] <Pici> Are you currently in the same directory as that file?
[13:52] <joutsi> yes on Dolphin
[13:52] <Pici> I mean on a terminal.
[13:52] <joutsi> no
[13:53] <Pici> Open a terminal, navigate to where that file is, then run that command
[13:59] <joutsi> ok now i got the idea
[14:00] <joutsi> thanks Pici
[14:00] <Pici> np
[14:00] <geri> hi is it possible to install the kunbuntu live cd on a dvd??
[14:06] <geri> hi i have a intel pentium 4 with 1.8Ghz, 256MB RAM, which kubuntu version could i install?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> geri, yes
[14:09] <sbivol> geri: yes, you can burn the live CD on a DVD
[14:09] <sbivol> oh, hi BluesKaj :)
[14:10] <BluesKaj> hi sbivol
[14:11] <BluesKaj> geri, , what are your needs , is this for home use , on the job office use where longterm stability and support is required ?
[14:11] <geri> i dont need support :D
[14:11] <geri> office, browing, printing :D
[14:12] <geri> thats what this computer is used for
[14:15] <BluesKaj> geri support is free , in terms of software updates / upgrades etc ...ok what model printer ? if it's lexmark you might have some trouble with drivers for home printers , lexmark commercial office printers are mostly supported
[14:15] <geri> hp officejet 5600
[14:15] <geri> i got that already installed in 6.06
[14:15] <BluesKaj> geri then you should be fine
[14:15] <geri> i just need more ram memory :D
[14:16] <geri> 2gb, 1.8ghz works for ubuntu 11.04?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> whynot 12.10 ?
[14:16] <geri> or 12.10
[14:17] <BluesKaj> 2G RAM is fine , just make sure you create a swap partition that at least 2 G
[14:17] <geri> ok
[14:17] <BluesKaj> that is
[14:17] <geri> 1.8ghz is ok?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> 1.8 ghz is fine
[14:18] <geri> i dont do gaming :D
[14:22] <BluesKaj> geri, I run Kubuntu 12.10 and it's very stable , it should be a fine OS for your pc\
[14:23] <BluesKaj> or laptop , unless you have dual gpus (optimus) or hybrid graphics
[14:47] <joutsi> I wonder whats wrong im trying to launch " lol.launcher.exe" and it only gives me this small window in the mid of screen and nothing ahppens there
[14:51] <devmark> so my first use of kubuntu really nice =)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> devmark, glad to hear that
[14:52] <devmark> using irssi now =)
[14:53] <devmark> ohhh what i really like linux and kubuntu
[14:53] <devmark> its So fresh and clean
[14:57] <BluesKaj> if you'd like a GUI type IRC client then there's Konversation and the default quassel
[14:58] <BluesKaj> devmark,^
[15:18] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[15:18] <Schrodinger`Cat> since few days, i got ""WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/<moi>/keyring-HOo6LG/pkcs11: No such file or directory"" for every bash comand i launch
[15:19] <Schrodinger`Cat> and if i remove gnome-keyring, i got "p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory "
[15:19] <MichaelP> Is it me or does kde 4.10 have a new theming feature? In the past i don't remember panel color changing with style color!!
[15:22] <manufakirousel> yes reset
[15:23] <manufakirousel> tax
[15:23] <Schrodinger`Cat> sudo reboot
[15:23] <contrast> Greets, everyone. Anyone know of a working solution to this bug - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178337 ? I have several address book resources configured through Akonadi (a vcard file, Facebook and Google), and KRunner refuses to display contacts from any of them.
[15:24] <manufakirousel> lien iso
[15:28] <Graf_Westerholt> Sometimes a Window or menu in KDE is black. What is the problem?
[15:30] <contrast> Graf_Westerholt: Haven't seen that in a long time. What version of KDE are you using?
[15:30] <Graf_Westerholt> KDE 4.9.5
[15:31] <contrast> Weird... What graphics card, and are your drivers up to date?
[15:31] <MichaelP> Anyone useing 4.10 yet
[15:32] <Graf_Westerholt> Nvidia GeForce 9300 GE, nvidia-driver 304.43
[15:34] <contrast> I am, MichaelP
[15:35] <contrast> Graf_Westerholt: Sorry, not sure what else it would be. Is it happening a lot, or only with certain programs?
[15:36] <Graf_Westerholt> a lot. All programs.
[15:37] <contrast> Graf_Westerholt: The only thing I could suggest is turning off Desktop Effects. That should definitely take care of it, but if that's too drastic, you could try changing some of the settings.
[15:38] <Graf_Westerholt> ok
[15:38] <contrast> Graf_Westerholt: Is this occuring on a clean ~/.kde?
[15:39] <contrast> Or just the one you've been using for however long?
[15:39] <Graf_Westerholt> I do not know, my KDE is from 1745.
[15:39] <contrast> 1745?
[15:39] <Graf_Westerholt> Sure. :) I am old. ;)
[15:39] <Graf_Westerholt> It is my „using KDE“.
[15:40] <contrast> Ahh, well yeah, try creating a new user and see if it persists there. I generally start with a clean $HOME/.kde folder for every feature release, so as to avoid bugs and cruft.
[15:41] <Graf_Westerholt> Mm, I like to keep my settings. ;)
[15:43] <contrast> Graf_Westerholt: Ok, but in order to troubleshoot, you should try creating a new user.... Try disabling blur first though, looks like that *could* be causing it - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188662
[15:43] <contrast> It's an older bug report, but it checks out.
[15:44] <Graf_Westerholt> It is different from my bug. It can happen when I resize a window.
[15:45] <devmark> is it hard to setup openvpn for kubuntu?
[15:45] <devmark> i already did apt-get install openvpn
[15:45] <contrast> Graf_Westerholt: Alright, man. Do what you like. If you're unwilling to try anything that I suggest to you, I'm not sure why you're asking for help. ^_~
[15:53] <MichaelP> contrast, is it kde 4.10 or did panel change style color in the past with different qtcurve styles and colors
[15:54] <contrast> MichaelP: The Air theme for Plasma got a pretty heavy makeover, if that's what you're referring to?
[15:55] <contrast> MichaelP: QtCurve's *style* shouldn't have any impact on it, but I know certain Plasma themes do adhere to the current color scheme. Not sure whether that was newly implemented in Air or not though.
[15:56] <MichaelP> contrast, what ever it is.. I like it.. Makes for a cleaner look
[15:56] <contrast> Indeed
[15:56] <contrast> MichaelP: Have you noticed the new bug with closing notifications?
[15:58] <MichaelP> Not yet... i had at frist to reboot i had to hit the power button... cause restart did not work for the 1st day
[15:59] <MichaelP> plus im useing the ppa main line kernel 3.6.3-030603-generic x86_64
[16:00] <contrast> MichaelP: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311413 -- Feel free to vote on that. It's the only really noticeable regression I've seen in 4.10 so far.
[16:02] <MichaelP> contrast, i guess i have noticed that... when i copy and paste something from harddrive to usb drive... i have to close the the notication thing that shows the percentage of the transfer by hand
[16:04] <MichaelP> That says 4.9.90 im on 4.9.98
[16:05] <contrast> Yeah, it still occurs in 4.9.98
[16:05] <MichaelP> is it what i said above about having to close by hand
[16:07] <MichaelP> we just about about 3 inch's of snow the last few hours
[16:07] <contrast> I'm not sure what you mean... I always had to close "file transfer complete" notifications manually (all through the 4.9 series). This is referring to how, if you click the close button on a notification *as soon* as it pops up, it will just dismiss the notification without actually closing it, then you have to click the notification icon in the system tray and close the notification from there.
[16:10] <MichaelP> Ohh so like error report notifications.. clicking close just minamizes it
[16:10] <contrast> Right
[16:11] <MichaelP> Ok.. I have not had any error reports.. sence i 1st installed kubuntu... VLC was giving for awhile..
[16:12] <contrast> bleh... SMPlayer >>> VLC. :P
[16:13] <contrast> I mean, unless you're one of the few people that actually uses VLC for its namesake (streaming video over a LAN).
[16:16] <MichaelP> I don't like smplayer... it don't go straight to next video...
[16:21] <MichaelP> im having trouble getting smplayer to play my video directory.. plays 1 video then stops
[16:43] <disharmonic> I'm having an issue with dark themes and Gwibber. Any way to change the text colour just for that app?
[16:44] <disharmonic> and good evening btw
[17:08] <disharmonic> I'm having an issue with dark themes and Gwibber. Any way to change the text colour just for that app or GTK apps in general?
[17:11] <jaafar> hi guys.  I am trying to properly build and test an updated version of the plasma networkmanagement widget that is supposed to fix some bugs I am experiencing (see KDE bugs 312963 and 312964).  I'm not sure I am following the correct procedure to build and replace the widget for testing.
[17:12] <jaafar> my procedure is untar,mkdir build,cd build,cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` ..;make;sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-networkmanagement;sudo make install
[17:12] <jaafar> have I missed anything?
[17:12] <jaafar> and is anyone else frustrated by the plasma network widget?
[17:13] <jaafar> I'm embarrassed to say I am just using the Gnome one instead... seems silly to have to do that
[17:19] <BluesKaj> jaafar, unless I'm on my laptop (wifi) , I don't use network manager ..prefer static , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[17:19] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:20] <disharmonic> jaafar, try #kde maybe. Most here seem to be afk
[17:22] <jaafar> BluesKaj thanks but DHCP is working fine, it's VPN issues...
[17:23] <jaafar> disharmonic thanks for suggestion;  I'm worried it's a kubuntu-specific issue (files stored in funny place? strange uninstall procedure for widgets? IDK)
[17:58] <nmmm> how can I show progress bar for TuxOnIce (hibernation script), dont mind if is text mode or graphical
[18:06] <mandoguit> nmmm:  IRC channel #tux-on-ice on irc.freenode.net maybe?
[18:28] <cloakable> Was gaming yesterday, and discovered that my mouse doesn't respond to a third button press when I'm holding two already (in this example, I was holding M1+M2, then pressed M4). Is it my mouse that's the problem, or is there a driver/input limitation?
[18:43] <nmmm> mandoguit: how to install fbsplash? dont see package like this ? i think tuxonicerequires it for progress bar?
[18:55] <manufakirousel> apocalyme
[18:56] <manufakirousel> ridicule exemple des jeux online audio
[18:58] <manufakirousel> proteger par obama ils abuse
[19:00] <manufakirousel> ils volent mon travail
[19:04] <cloakable> what
[19:09] <jaafar> discuter simplement
[20:26] <sbalmos> #kde seems silent. Running 12.10, I know KMail 4.9.5 is supposed to have IMAP IDLE support. But it still doesn't seem to be receiving emails immediately, only on the interval. The IMAP server is advertising IDLE support properly. Ideas/opinion?
[20:27] <shadeslayer> sbalmos: #kontact maybe?
[20:27] <sbalmos> shadeslayer: k. We'll see. <Peggy from USA Prime Credit> Transferring!
[20:27] <shadeslayer> haha
[22:21] <BarkingFish> can someone please tell me - do you need any special fonts in order to correctly render the additional letters in Maltese?
[22:22] <BarkingFish> things like the ġ, Ġ, ħ, Ħ and so on
[22:24] <BarkingFish> !mt
[22:31] <youquex> BarkingFish: you shouldnt, as long as your system is setup with the proper locales, unicode, etc
[22:31] <BarkingFish> hm
[22:32] <BarkingFish> i'll show you what i just sent #ubuntu-mt
 I have some in my web browser, firefox, which don't show up correctly, or look wrong - mostly ċ, ġ, ħ and Ħ -  the ċ and ġ look like they have vertical pipe marks - | - passing through them, and ħ and Ħ look smaller than other letters.
[22:38] <pc> where can i get chanel list
[22:38] <BarkingFish> pc - you can't get the whole list now.  you need to /msg alis list  and type what you're looking for in * afterwards
[22:38] <BarkingFish> for example, /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[23:01] <pedro> Hey everyone? could someone help me with some permissions stuff?
[23:02] <pedro142> Is someone there?
[23:02] <pedro142> I have a problem with permissions which doesn't allow me to do much
[23:04] <yofel> !anyone | pedro142
[23:05] <pedro142> You see I was learning the first steps on terminal use, and trying to use the command "mkdir"
[23:05] <pedro142> it seems I dont have permission
[23:05] <pedro142> but this is my computer, and I am logged in as the admin
[23:06] <yofel> admin meaning yourself or root?
[23:06] <pedro142> Administrator.
[23:06] <pedro142> myself
[23:06] <yofel> usually you have write permissions in /home/<username>/ and some other locations like /tmp
[23:06] <pedro142> I can though if I type sudo before
[23:06] <yofel> right
[23:07] <pedro142> this is normal? for example:
[23:07] <pedro142> cd ~/Desktop
[23:07] <pedro142> mkdir /Folder
[23:07] <pedro142> it gives me a permission denied error
[23:07] <yofel> wait, watch out
[23:07] <yofel> the / at the beginning means you're providing a full path
[23:07] <yofel> and /Folder != ~/Desktop/Folder
[23:08] <yofel> just run mkdir Folder and it will work
[23:08] <yofel> what you did was try to create Folder in /
[23:08] <pedro142> but I want to create the Folder directory on my desktop, not on root.
[23:08] <yofel> right, so just leave the / away
[23:08] <pedro142> AH it worked !
[23:08] <pedro142> thanks!
[23:09] <yofel> !cmd
[23:09] <yofel> hm...
[23:09] <yofel> !cli
[23:09] <pedro142> so of course it would not let me create a whole new branch!
[23:09] <yofel> now
[23:09] <yofel> pedro142: sudo mkdir /Folder would work - as that will run mkdir as "root" user which has write permissions everywhere
[23:10] <yofel> be very careful with sudo in the system folders...
[23:10] <pedro142> If I used: sudo mkdir /Folder  would it creat a whole new branch of directories because of the " / "?
[23:11] <yofel> not sure what you mean with branch, but yeah, it'll create the folder in the top level
[23:12] <pedro142> but I was in /home/<user>/Desktop
[23:13] <yofel> ah, note that 'cd ~/Desktop; mkdir Folder' and 'mkdir /home/$USER/Desktop/Folder' will do the same thing
[23:14] <yofel> first is create directory in current directory, second is with full path
[23:14] <yofel> if you begin with / the programs will assume that you're starting the path from the toplevel
[23:16] <pedro142> ah ok! thanks! Thats why I couldn't.
[23:17] <yofel> another way to say "current directory" would be 'mkdir ./Folder", as "." is the current directory
[23:17] <yofel> ".." is the one before that
[23:17] <pedro142> Yes I am currently on Ubuntu's site learning all that!
[23:18] <pedro142> still for a "Windows" user, this kind of OS can be really intimidating in some aspects
[23:18] <yofel> well, it takes a while to get used to it
[23:18] <pedro142> although, in this first 2 days that I am using, the feel it gives is something extraordinary
[23:18] <yofel> C: missing doesn't help :P
[23:20] <pedro142> its kinda sad that it does not have the marketshare of other OS's.
[23:21] <pedro142> one more thing, I can't get to make file extensions to appear on the terminal
[23:21] <pedro142> like doc.txt
[23:22] <yofel> if the file has an extension, 'ls' will show it
[23:22] <yofel> linux doesn't really require file extensions though
[23:23] <yofel> so a file being named "text", is fine
[23:23] <yofel> it helps humans though ;)
[23:23] <pedro142> no, ls does not shoe it
[23:24] <pedro142> *show
[23:24] <yofel> then it shouldn't have an extension
[23:25] <pedro142> ok! Thanks, you've helped a lot!
[23:33] <cornfeedhobo> is the default dm lightdm or kdm??
[23:33] <cornfeedhobo> sorry, for 10.04
[23:36] <yofel> cornfeedhobo: kdm
[23:36] <yofel> it's kdm up to 12.04, from 12.10 it's lightdm
[23:36] <Obscurity> Hello
[23:37] <Obscurity> any chance of some nerdy help?
[23:38] <cornfeedhobo> yofel: do you have any idea on how to get it to start up. I am installing the backtrack distro into a vm, and i want to make it multiuser so i am trying to get it to have a login and all that good stuff....any ideas?
[23:38] <cornfeedhobo> Obscurity: thats why we are all here
[23:38] <Obscurity> All wanting help, or here to provide it? c:
[23:39] <cornfeedhobo> yofel: i mean on it's own. I already did update-rc.d but on reboot it didnt do a thing
[23:40] <yofel> cornfeedhobo: I fear I know nothing about how backtrack is set up, try in #backtrack-linux
[23:40] <yofel> !ask | Obscurity
[23:43] <Obscurity> Alrighty: Freshly installed kubuntu for the first time, no internet access at all (now on my windows partition). On the internet settings panel, i can only access the VPN settings, not the wired internet settings. Am I missing some kind of driver? What can I do to connect? My motherboard isnt visibly powering the ethernet cable in kubuntu
[23:49] <dougl> why is my nvidia drivers "activated but not in use" according to my additional drivers util in 12.10 after I did an update?
[23:49] <dougl> there does not seem to be an option to turn them on or use them


[07:56] <micahg> _Tsk_: good morning, does the support crew ML discuss bugs affecting users A?TM
[07:56] <_Tsk_> no
[07:56] <_Tsk_> but we could
[07:57] <micahg> Usul: k, then I guess it's not really for me then, I guess I technically don't "support" users, but rather insure as close to bug free as we can get
[07:58] <_Tsk_> yes for that we use mdat and tag the post with [tb-qa] in the subject
[07:58] <micahg> what is mdat, I keep seeing that
[07:59] <_Tsk_> mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird - sorry I thougt you knew
[07:59] <micahg> oh, yes, I'm familiar with the gruop
[07:59] <micahg> just diidn't connect the two :-/
[07:59] <_Tsk_> I mean I thought youhad made the connection
[08:01]  * micahg needs to upload 3.1.7 build 3 to natty and go to sleep
[15:10] <fta> cyphermox_, hi, rahhhh, n-m once again messed up with my sendmail servers (because of its /etc/hosts crazy changes)
[15:19] <cyphermox_> fta, that's what I'm working on today
[15:20] <fta> oh, great
[15:44] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: hi! what is the status of tbird build3?
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, oh, i just need to upload it now
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> i'll do that now
[15:44] <jdstrand> thanks
[15:54] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, ok, uploaded now
[15:54] <jdstrand> thanks
[16:48] <micahg> jdstrand: do you have a minute for a PM?
[17:08] <jdstrand> micahg: a PM?
[17:08]  * jdstrand racks brain for meaning of 'PM'
[17:09] <micahg> jdstrand: private messsage
[17:10] <jdstrand> micahg: go ahead
[18:36] <janimo> after unpacking the tb source package how do I add a new patch? quilt and edit-patch both complain. How do I unpack the tarball first?
[18:36] <janimo> I did not find it described in the wiki
[18:36] <janimo> micahg: ^
[18:39] <micahg> janimo: ./debian/rules patch
[19:33] <fta> chrisccoulson, do you still see the unexpected load on your desktop? if so, please add a comment in bug 683959, i feel alone there
[19:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 683959 in linux (Ubuntu) "unexpected load with 0% CPU and no activity (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683959
[21:27] <BUGabundo> yo
[21:28] <janimo> micahg: any special QUILT_PATCHES settings in ~/.quiltrc ? Patches in debian/patches are relative to build-tree.
[21:28] <micahg> janimo: yes, there should be a note in the README.Source
[21:28] <micahg> :( no readme
[21:29] <micahg> janimo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541162/
[21:29] <micahg> that's from firefox, but should basically be the same
[21:30] <janimo> ok, I saw that rune in patchsys-quilt.mk as well
[21:30] <janimo> but it seems strange as qult in cdbs runs with --quiltrx /dev/null
[21:32] <janimo> ok, quite a custom workflow - the flexibility of quilt
[21:32] <micahg> janimo: yes, we might be able to fix some of that when we switch to source format 3
[21:33] <janimo> micahg: great to hear that. Anything planned yet, or stoping the switch?
[21:34] <micahg> janimo: time, it's not critical for this cycle, but we'd like to do it, also the tools are currently set up to use CDBS, so those have to be ported as well
[21:34] <janimo> which tools do you mean?
[21:34] <janimo> somehitng outside the package?
[21:34] <micahg> janimo: mozilla-devscripts
[21:35] <janimo> is this in debian too or ubuntu specific?
[21:35] <micahg> janimo: it's shared between Ubuntu and Debian, but the packaging for Firefox and Thunderbird are Ubuntu specific
[21:46] <janimo> micahg: I still get .pc dirs is that expected?
[21:46] <micahg> janimo: where?  you should get the .pc dir in build-tree/mozilla
[21:46] <janimo> there indeed
[21:46] <micahg> yep
[21:47] <janimo> but is not the debian/patches the only patch dir?
[21:47] <janimo> why the QUILT_PATCHES settings then?
[21:47] <micahg> janimo: not for quilt, debian/patches is where the actual patch is, .pc is where stuff gets applied so it can be reverted
[21:47] <janimo> ok
[21:47] <micahg> .pc is like a working copy
[21:48]  * janimo tries again with renewed confidence
[22:27] <janimo> micahg: debian/rules pre-build + debian/rules apply-patches is the same as debian/rules patch ?
[22:27] <janimo> they seem to have the same result
[22:28] <janimo> I finally got a new patch under debian/patches
[22:28] <micahg> janimo: might be,  idk offhand
[22:28] <janimo> before debuild -S do I need to do anythng else?
[22:28] <janimo> the debdiff adds some files under debian/ as well like the manpage
[22:29] <janimo> do I need a quilt pop -a after refresh?
[22:30] <micahg> janimo: in theory, debuild -S should clean that
[22:35] <micahg> janimo: could you use this to refresh the patch? quilt refresh --diffstat -U8 --no-timestamps
[22:35] <janimo> ok
[22:36] <micahg> that'll just make it look like the other patches
[22:42] <janimo> micahg: so there are 4 generated files in debian/ that do not go away with debian/rules clean
[22:42] <janimo> and they show up in the debdiff
[22:43] <janimo> I can delete them by hand but there must be a better way
[22:43] <janimo> manpage, tbird.sh postinst and prerm
[22:43] <micahg> janimo: that would be a bug then :(
[22:44] <janimo> 3 of those are creatd from .in files
[22:45] <micahg> janimo: yep, please file a bug if you like, patches welcome, I can fix it later tonight otherwise
[22:46] <janimo> I'll first have to bult test my patch
[22:46] <janimo> before sending it
[22:46] <micahg> janimo: ok, don't worry about those files then
[22:47] <micahg> janimo: I actually need to gut the Thunderbird packaging to bring it in line with the changes chrisccoulson made to the Firefox packaging
[22:47] <janimo> it sure needs a shekup
[22:47] <janimo> shakeup
[22:47] <micahg> that'll probably wait until the end of the month when I have some time off
[22:48] <chrisccoulson> i was going to do that soon ;)
[22:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: if you have time, otherwise, I was going to have it ready before the next 3.3 alpha which is scheduled for mid January
[22:50] <micahg> I don't think we need to do too much for the 3.1 branch, but for thunderbird-trunk I think it should be cleaned up
[22:59] <janimo> micahg: I fixed those uncleaned files, will add to the debdiff
[23:02] <micahg> janimo: great, thanks, i'll massage that into the bzr commits
[23:03] <janimo> so bzr merge request is preferred over debdiff?
[23:04] <micahg> janimo: up to you, it actually makes it easier to give attribution, but I'll take it in any form :)
[23:05] <micahg> janimo: if you do a bzr merge, please make it one commit per change
[23:09] <cyphermox> fta, good news, I just finished writing a patch to disable NM touching /etc/hosts. I'll do some more cleanup and testing tonight and should be ready to upload soonish
[23:10] <fta> cyphermox, excellent! thank you
[23:11] <janimo> I'll attach the debdiff for review for now, in the meantime I am testing the package  building on armel
[23:30] <asac> fta: there?
[23:30] <asac> fta: perl -ne 'if (/^Exec=(.+)$/) { $f = (split "/", $ARGV)[-1]; print "$f\t$1\n"; }' /usr/share/applications/*.desktop > $I.new || rm -f $I.new
[23:30] <asac> if i want to include StartupWMClass= from the .desktop file as well in a third column ;)
[23:31] <asac> what is the statement?
[23:31] <asac> damn shitty bamf.index shit
[23:33] <fta> asac, hi
[23:33] <asac> hey ;)
[23:33] <fta> asac, what are you trying to achieve?
[23:33]  * asac is trying to fix unity to allow keep firefox dailies in launcher ;)
[23:34] <asac> they dont use StartupWMClass but try to guess whether a window belongs to a .desktop file by matching WINDOW_CLASS to the .desktop file name
[23:34] <asac> and they create the bamf.index file so it doesnt need to parse all desktop files
[23:34] <asac> so what i want is to also include StartupWMClass=$VALUE
[23:34] <asac> in $I.new
[23:34] <asac> as a third column if that is available in .desktop ;)
[23:35] <asac> and i found this perl statement which is easy for this case, but i dont know how to make an optional multiline match to include StartupWMClass=(.+)
[23:35] <asac> if its .desktop ... if not just omit it
[23:35] <fta> oh, ok. let's see.
[23:35] <asac> and make print "$f\t$1\t$2\n"
[23:36] <asac> but $2 is optional and only if StartupWMClass is in .desktop ;)
[23:36] <asac> so atm:
[23:36] <asac> perl -ne 'if (/^Exec=(.+)$/) { $f = (split "/", $ARGV)[-1]; print "$f\t$1\n"; }' /usr/share/applications/*.desktop  | pastebinit
[23:36] <asac> http://pastebin.com/VDRLCjgx
[23:37] <asac> but for firefox-4.0.desktop i want another column that has "Minefield" in it basically
[23:37] <asac> strange that there is no StartupWMClass for openoffice btw in its .desktop
[23:37] <asac> guess it just takes too long to start anyway ;)
[23:39] <janimo> micahg: ok, arm build got past where it used to error so that is good
[23:41] <micahg> janimo: cool, do you have time to do a full build?
[23:41] <fta> asac, the way it's written, it couldn't be multiline, it nees to be rewritten
[23:41] <janimo> the build is progressing now
[23:41] <janimo> but takes a log of time on arm
[23:41] <fta> asac, let me try another way
[23:42] <micahg> janimo: should take around 5.5 hours
[23:42] <janimo> it's 2 AM here so I'll only know for sure tomorrow
[23:43] <micahg> janimo: can you add DEP-3 tags for the patch? http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
[23:43] <janimo> but I am almost cretain it works since I have make -k before and this was the only issue
[23:43] <janimo> never used DEP 3 before
[23:43] <micahg> janimo: ok, well, do you want to ping me in the morning to let me know, I can at least commit to the dailies tonight, but I'd rather be sure it completes before uploading to teh archive
[23:44] <asac> fta: we can rewrite this ... its ugly anyway ;)
[23:45] <micahg> janimo: I don't want to scare you away ;)
[23:45] <asac> i was about to write a C file to do this ... but then i thought of mr. magic perl fta ;)
[23:45] <janimo> micahg: well, it is a bit tedious indeed
[23:45] <janimo> :)
[23:45] <micahg> janimo: we're just trying to make patches in teh archive have proper references
[23:45] <janimo> ah, ok
[23:45] <micahg> janimo: I can take care of that if it's too much
[23:47] <micahg> janimo: I appreciate the patch, my guess is it would've taken me at least half a day to figure it out
[23:47] <janimo> I added a reference to a patch
[23:47] <janimo> I figured it out then saw it was done for xulrunner in some other platform
[23:48] <janimo> I looked at other simliar fixes for thumb2 failures and a guideline in the wiki
[23:48] <janimo> about thumb2 porting
[23:48] <asac> bummer i also need to add a token because Exec can be multi token itself
[23:49] <asac> well ... maybe Exec=([^ ]+)
[23:49] <asac> to cut of that early in the process ;)
[23:49] <asac> but will tweak it
[23:50] <asac> or add a special token like WM_CLASS:$2
[23:58] <fta> asac, perl -ne '/^(.*?)=(.*)/; $$d{$ARGV}{$1} = $2; END { for $f (keys %$d) { printf "%s\t%s%s\n", $f =~ m{.*/([^/]+)$}, $$d{$f}{'Exec'}, $$d{$f}{'StartupWMClass'} ? "\t$$d{$f}{'StartupWMClass'}" : "" } }' /usr/share/applications/*.desktop  ?
[23:59] <fta> oh, you don't want the full Exec


 OOOOOOOOOOO
[00:53] <ubptgbot> Varun was added by: Varun
 Hi guys. I am not a computer person and don't know much about computers. Recently I come to know about Linux and its benefits. I have a question for you. I have an old Sony Xperia M device. Can I convert it into ubuntu touch device?  … Thanks
 Yes
 What is Android version?
 @Flohack [Well its not 100% there where I want it to be, but yes, MR will soon come for de …], oh god florian bought a op5
[03:29] <ubptgbot> thatdamnhuman was added by: thatdamnhuman
[04:15] <ubptgbot> shrk97 was added by: shrk97
 guys anyone using it on Nexus 6p ( Angler ) ? ... i flashed using Ubports Installer ... installation was successful , but it stuck on Google Logo (Not the Ubuntu Logo / Boot loop)
 @shrk97 [guys anyone using it on Nexus 6p ( Angler ) ? ... i flashed using Ubports Instal …], formatted Android System , data , cache before... using twrp ... Android 8.1.0  OS before the installation
 what did it ship with? it might need the stock os to flash properly
 @Fuseteam [what did it ship with? it might need the stock os to flash properly], the OS before the flash was Android 8 ... Stock & Last firmware released for Nexus 6p
 ohw did it ship with android 8?
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/ZHOAU1Xt.png According to this image they mentioned to flash on top of Stock Android 7.1.2 released for Nexus 6p .... but i did it on top of Android 8.1.0 ... Do you think thats  the problem ?
 it may yes the partition layout may be different
 @Fuseteam [it may yes the partition layout may be different], let see
 yep its the problem with base android version ... i downgraded my Nexus 6p to stock 7.1.2 ... then flashed ubuntu touch using ubports installation .... it successfully booted
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/efG5KYOp.png
 @shrk97 [<reply to media>], Yes please follow the text in the future, its there for a reason ;)
 @Fuseteam [it may yes the partition layout may be different], No, its the vendor partition...
 @Flohack [Yes please follow the text in the future, its there for a reason ;)], thank you
 for the port
[06:46] <ubptgbot> SULAIMAN K was added by: SULAIMAN K
 ooooh OP5
 let me know if you need a tester
 @rogieroudshoorn [let me know if you need a tester], Testers welcome in a few days ;)
[07:25] <ubptgbot> dk_dharun was added by: dk_dharun
 Alex new update is out. It might have fixed lte
 Or not
[08:37] <ubptgbot> gloriousCat was added by: gloriousCat
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/hXt3d9YK.png
 humm, that should not be an issue if you deploy to your phone
 [Edit] humm, that should not be an issue if you deploy it to your phone
 how did you compiled the app ?
 clickable
 cloned repo, modified one file as a test, connected my phone and typed on a terminal "clickable"
 and so this is only a warning or you can't deploy ?
 It's only error that I get
 App opens automatically and no changes
 I can't see any of my changes that I made
 ok, it is normal
 @PurpleMcc [App opens automatically and no changes], Thise errors can be ignored. They only say you need manual review.
 it is not your code
 Increase the version number by adding a .1 at the end.
 Sometimes I need to do that for changes to get pivked up.
 Or clean cache
 humm still needed ?
 @lduboeuf [humm still needed ?], For some core apps I still do not get along without that.
 So nobody ported A20s samsung
 [Edit] So nobody ported A20s samsung?
 @Danfro [Increase the version number by adding a .1 at the end.], Which file needs to be modified?
 found it
 Heh it worked
 Now I at least know that I broke the settings menu XD
 👍
 Hi guys, is there any phone with working fingerprinter available around ?
 it seems that the android 9 based devices has working fingerprint
[10:02] <ubptgbot> <Alex Overton> Redimi note 7 fingerprint working , but think it bugs sometimes on reboot.Apart from that it unlocks phone all the time
 how to get Ubuntu.Components 1.3 to Focal Fossa?
[10:05] <ubptgbot> SehjanS was added by: SehjanS
 Oneplus5 🍔 cheeseburger..port plz
 @SehjanS [Oneplus5 🍔 cheeseburger..port plz], Your wish  has been granted :) @Flohack is looking for beta testers
 @just_carlod [Your wish  has been granted :) @Flohack is looking for beta testers], LOL by accident.... I have only 5T here (dumpling), but cheeseburger is made by Vince. So we basically work together on this port, and it will enable both devices hopefully
 🥰
 @lduboeuf trying to follow your video about getting qt creator to work with Ubuntu touch development but I'm stuck in building process
 docker build -t ut-qtcreator:base … "docker build" requires exactly 1 argument. … See 'docker build --help'. … Usage:  docker build [OPTIONS] PATH | URL | - … Build an image from a Dockerfile
 @PurpleMcc [@lduboeuf trying to follow your video about getting qt creator to work with Ubun …], This discussion might be better placed here: https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN
 Thanks
 👍
 @Flohack [No, its the vendor partition...], ah makes sense … wait that's a new partition right?
 @PurpleMcc [docker build -t ut-qtcreator:base … "docker build" requires exactly 1 argument. … Se …], you missed a dot :p
 like `ut-creator:base .`
 @Fuseteam [you missed a dot :p], Yeah noticed and now I have an issue with broken packages
 ah how fun haha
 guess you can post the rest on the other side
 @Fuseteam [ah makes sense … wait that's a new partition right?], Devices starting with as early as Android 6 may come with a vendor partition, where all vendor blobs are located. Its sometimes required to flash this along with the factory image, as other sources like Lineage might miss stuff. So far this was successful for my Nexus 6P bu
[11:39] <ubptgbot> tfor OP5T the Lineage vendor part was better :P
 haha cool 😂
[12:34] <ubptgbot> JackSparrowHoHoHo was added by: JackSparrowHoHoHo
[12:35] <ubptgbot> Nickless was added by: JackSparrowHoHoHo
[12:39] <ubptgbot> <Masud Hossain> does ubuntu touch installation need any extra file while using ubports??
[12:40] <ubptgbot> Alex | Zozovsky was added by: Alex | Zozovsky
[12:44] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> how to extract a zip file on ubtouch?
 @Masud Hossain [does ubuntu touch installation need any extra file while using ubports??], what do you mean?
 @Oxy Kali [how to extract a zip file on ubtouch?], the file manager can handle that
[12:51] <ubptgbot> <Masud Hossain> @Fuseteam [what do you mean?], I mean can I directly install ubuntu in my mobile through "ubports installer" or I need additional files..
 @Masud Hossain [I mean can I directly install ubuntu in my mobile through "ubports installer" or …], Installer will have all files needed, but of course only for the supported devicesd
 @Masud Hossain [I mean can I directly install ubuntu in my mobile through "ubports installer" or …], [Edit] Installer will have all files needed, but of course only for the supported devices
[12:52] <ubptgbot> <Masud Hossain> @Flohack [Installer will have all files needed, but of course only for the supported devic …], I'm having redmi 4x(santoni)
 if you're having issue feel free to share your error in the @WelcomePlus room
 @Masud Hossain [I'm having redmi 4x(santoni)], That should work, but thats a community port, so if there are problems you need to talk withthe porter(s) probably
[12:56] <ubptgbot> <Masud Hossain> @Flohack [That should work, but thats a community port, so if there are problems you need …], got it.. … so I'll definitely try to install ubuntu touch.. … so that I might get some speedy response from my mobile..
 Yeah good luck!
 Need ip68 phone Ubuntu compatible
[13:56] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @Serhio_Conditioners [Need ip68 phone Ubuntu compatible], pixel a3
 @Oxy Kali [pixel a3], They not have it
 *3a
 Ip 68 it's like a doogee s40,s60 and other IP68 okitel, caterpillar
 None of them are supported
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @Serhio_Conditioners [Ip 68 it's like a doogee s40,s60 and other IP68 okitel, caterpillar], doogee have a mtk cpu
 Find one on pie with open kernel and good treble then you could port
 @Oxy Kali [doogee have a mtk cpu], Not an issue anymore if kernel is foss
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @Serhio_Conditioners [Ip 68 it's like a doogee s40,s60 and other IP68 okitel, caterpillar], galaxy s7
 Not supported afaik
 (Photo, 210x240) https://irc.ubports.com/d3jtb2M0.png Like this something
 @Serhio_Conditioners [Need ip68 phone Ubuntu compatible], so there's no such device yet
 (Photo, 640x480) https://irc.ubports.com/UgJ3UfIz.png It works but it's buggy af
 😭
[14:03] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @xyn_dev [<reply to media>], i work with mi a2
 Ok. What problem for creating port for Doggee or other IP68? … Maybe i do it.
 @Serhio_Conditioners [Ok. What problem for creating port for Doggee or other IP68? … Maybe i do it.], Need kernel source and Android p rn
 and porter have to have this device to test it ;)
 @amyosx [Not supported afaik], there is a s7 port, but I dont know if anyone is working on it anymore
 @Serhio_Conditioners [Ip 68 it's like a doogee s40,s60 and other IP68 okitel, caterpillar], eg this https://www.doogeephone.com/doogee-s40-lite-specs ? It might be possible if there's kernel source available
 GSI makes porting new devices really easy
[14:15] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @just_carlod [eg this https://www.doogeephone.com/doogee-s40-lite-specs ? It might be possible …], or sony xperia
 @Serhio_Conditioners [Ok. What problem for creating port for Doggee or other IP68? … Maybe i do it.], main issue is nobody that has made a port has said device, but if theres a kernel source/AOSP/Lineage port available, then it should be portable if someone is willing to put in the work
 Lineage port for S40 is available … http://proshivkis.ru/?l=dl&il=16167 … http://proshivkis.ru/?l=dl&il=16168
 What next step?
 @Serhio_Conditioners [Lineage port for S40 is available … http://proshivkis.ru/?l=dl&il=16167 … http://pro …], you need source
 @Serhio_Conditioners [Lineage port for S40 is available … http://proshivkis.ru/?l=dl&il=16167 … http://pro …], [Edit] you need source code
 kernel is the most important
[14:40] <ubptgbot> kikerdz was added by: kikerdz
[15:11] <ubptgbot> John was added by: John
 Does zuk z2 good for Ubuntu touch
 Plz help
[15:13] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @John [Does zuk z2 good for Ubuntu touch], search if you found ubtouch
 Yes I found it in devices
 But I want to know whether it will be fully fixed in future
 I saw the page port doesn't have following not working
 Bluetooth, fingerprint and camera
[15:20] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @John [Yes I found it in devices], so tou will wait the mantainer fix it
 Where can I see the time of  development and fixes
[15:30] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> just you wai but i think mantainers work on other phones like mi a2 now
 Is Lenovo z2 plus and zuk z2 plus both same
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @John [Where can I see the time of  development and fixes], You can work on it to try to get it working, it's open source and anyone can make changes
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @John [Where can I see the time of  development and fixes], [Edit] You can work on it to try to get it working, it's open source and anyone can make changes :)
 I don't have device now I am planning to buy it , that's why I asked
[15:45] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @John [I don't have device now I am planning to buy it , that's why I asked], you can buy mi a2
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/rraH69lH.png
 @Oxy Kali [you can buy mi a2], I don't recommend it
 Wrong channel😅
 Buy yourself something good
[15:48] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @ItsMeShouko [I don't recommend it], why
 I made a2 port out in frustration because no money
 @ItsMeShouko [I made a2 port out in frustration because no money], Lmaoooo
[15:51] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> 😞
 Only redmi7 and redmi 4x is available in my location
 Redmi7 not note7
 redmi 7 is already possible by GSI
 but no updates, ota etc
[16:07] <ubptgbot> heinner430 was added by: heinner430
 Hello, how do I put ubuntu touches on an Archos 5S platinium. I need help.
 welcome, i reccomend reading the group description
 @heinner430 [Hello, how do I put ubuntu touches on an Archos 5S platinium. I need help.], It has not been ported to that device
 @heinner430 [Hello, how do I put ubuntu touches on an Archos 5S platinium. I need help.], which android version? do you have a kernel source?
 @just_carlod [which android version? do you have a kernel source?], android 5.1 and no kernel source
 I don't know much about halium 5, so I can't help you
 without kernel source it is very difficult to port
 Thanks, I'm trying to get it to run on Linux
 Thanks to everyone for the answers
 @heinner430 [Thanks, I'm trying to get it to run on Linux], There is a nice Sony tablet supported
 [Edit] without kernel source it is very difficult, if not impossible to port
 @Stereofont [There is a nice Sony tablet supported], And can I use the sony method?
 @heinner430 [And can I use the sony method?], Each device is different. There is some crossover for Android 9 Treble devices but a port for one mostly doesn't help others. I meant get the Sony tablet if you can
 @Stereofont [Each device is different. There is some crossover for Android 9 Treble devices b …], I understand, thank you for your help. Beautiful evening to all
 @heinner430 [I understand, thank you for your help. Beautiful evening to all], You are welcome and I wish you the same
 @PurpleMcc [@lduboeuf trying to follow your video about getting qt creator to work with Ubun …], now you can use `clickable ide qtcreator` it will set up all for you
 @anpok, question about the Z4 in the forum: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5299/need-your-help-to-install-ut-on-xperia-z4-tablet
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/WyQ9ZZBi.png 😊
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 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/hpWCZy00.png 😊
 @vince1171 [<reply to media>], your network indicator crashed 😆
[18:52] <ubptgbot> Александр Л was added by: Александр Л
[18:58] <ubptgbot> <Александр Л> Can I install ubports on zte z9 mini?
 please consult the group description :>
 and not
 @Flohack [your network indicator crashed 😆], shuuuuut 😇
 😂😂😂😂
[19:51] <ubptgbot> Gualter6 was added by: Gualter6
 How launch anbox-bridge.sh if the message is permission denied
[21:46] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> is there a way to use dscord onubports?
[21:47] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> [Edit] is there a way to use dscord on ubports?
 @Marcus Ly [is there a way to use dscord on ubports?], there's webapp but it's not optimize to mobile displays
 @Marcus Ly [is there a way to use dscord on ubports?], [Edit] there's webapp but it's not optimized to mobile displays
 so, you can use it, but it's not as comfortable as in android or normal app
[21:54] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> o ok
[22:00] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> which release channel should i use?
 @Marcus Ly [which release channel should i use?], Stable
[22:17] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> Error: systemimage:install: Error: {"error":{"code":1},"stdout":"adb: error: failed to copy '/root/.cache/ubports/system-image/pool/ubports-9931a66ffaa043182df96ea44950d640f0427b0d98b50e6dae90e9281ae1ae7b.tar.xz' to '/cache/recovery/ubports-9931a66ffaa043182df96ea44950d640f0427b0d98b50e6dae90e9281ae1ae7b.tar.xz': remote No space left on
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[22:17] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> what does this error mean
 I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you've used an Android 10 image on a device that didn't ship with Android 10, and for that you shrunk the cache partition and expanded the system partition.
 If that is the case, you must return to stock partitioning to install Ubuntu Touch
[22:27] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> can i just wipe the device completely and then install ut?
 While you should do that anyway, the cache partition must be put back to its original size
[22:28] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> so how do i do that?
 First, was my assumption correct?
[22:28] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> ye
 Which device?
[22:28] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> it's on 10
[22:28] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> nexus 4
 Basically you need to do https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-increase-your-nexus-4s-system-partition-for-more-space.3800264/ in reverse
 You want to go back to stock, where "system starts at 159 and ends at 1040, while cache starts at 1040 and ends at 1627"
[23:00] <ubptgbot> Scott Shone was added by: Scott Shone
 Hey. What's wrong with firefox libertine
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[23:35] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> @UniversalSuperBox [You want to go back to stock, where "system starts at 159 and ends at 1040, whil …], i think it bricked my device
[23:35] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> the tutorial
[23:35] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> now i can't go back into recovery or flash a rom
 Does it boot to fastboot?
[23:35] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> it boots into twrp
[23:36] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> [Edit] now i can't go back into bootloader or flash a rom
[23:36] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> o wait i meant it can't boot into bootloader
 Definitely not bricked, but your system partition might not be labeled correctly.
[23:36] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> how do i fix that?
 Let me see if that device uses a gpt.img so you don't need to do any more manual partitioning.
[23:38] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> alright thanks
 No, it does not. Please make sure your `./parted /dev/block/mmcblk0 p` output is the same as it is in the first post of that thread.
[23:43] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> alright
[23:43] <ubptgbot> <Marcus Ly> i have an 8gb device not a 16gb device
 Hmm. Everything up to userdata should still be the same.


[08:48] <davmor2> Morning All
[09:09] <ara> morning
[09:09] <eeejay> morning ara
[09:09] <ara> hey eeejay
[09:12] <ara> eeejay: I may have some time this morning to work on the pidgin test
[09:15] <eeejay> ara: excellent
[09:16] <eeejay> ara: do you mind if i got ahead and merge dx to trunk?
[09:16] <ara> eeejay: go ahead, it is only new classes and new scripts. no "real" merging :)
[09:16] <eeejay> ara: exactly!
[09:17] <eeejay> ara: but as for pidgin, i think we might need to add the possibility to have params on the suite level, not just the case level
[09:17] <ara> eeejay: what for?
[09:17] <eeejay> ara: for example: <suite blah blah><params><protocol>MSN</protocol>...
[09:18] <eeejay> ara: because the open() function in pidgin signs in the user and the buddy
[09:19] <ara> eeejay: mmm, true. maybe it shouldn't. maybe it should just open the application (no signing on) and then use a login method at the testcase level
[09:19] <eeejay> ara: the problem would be that you sign out/in on every case
[09:20] <eeejay> ara: my internet here is too slow for that :)
[09:20] <ara> eeejay: hehehe
[09:20] <ara> eeejay: yes, that's true. we might need that then. also, it is more flexible. if you came up with a case, some others might come up in the future
[09:21] <eeejay> ara: the other option is to have a very basic subclass, PidginMsn.protocol = "MSN"
[09:23] <ara> eeejay: I think having parameters on the testsuite level is better option
[09:24] <eeejay> ara: yup, so that is less trivial, i'll do it now in my branch. it should take a few minutes
[10:07] <davmor2> eeejay: I just read your blog post is the change in backend so apps that don't support at-spi work?
[10:36] <eeejay> davmor2: hah, nope.
[10:37] <davmor2> eeejay: What is the benefit of it then?
[10:39] <eeejay> davmor2: sounder design, and it will be a hopefully automatic transition when GNOME 3.0 comes in
[10:40] <eeejay> davmor2: ldtp uses some deprecated libraries, and it has grown a lot over the years
[10:41] <davmor2> eeejay: Ah okay.


[13:37] <chrome0_> i would like to change the install target disk for curtin, does anyone have any pointers?
[13:40] <chrome0_> ie. it seems to pick /dev/sda by default; i'd need to install onto another disk though
[13:44] <chrome0_> any pointers?