[08:23] <ormandj> cevizoglu, because a lot of users aren't sitting at console? :)
[08:23] <aizatto> cevizoglu: because some people dont want to learn bash :)
[08:23] <cevizoglu> ormandj, then write a front-end for it too
[08:23] <aizatto> or dont want to use bash
[08:23] <Trashcan> just do it in php
[08:23] <Trashcan> geeze
[08:23] <Trashcan> :p
[08:23] <Trashcan> !repos
[08:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:23] <ormandj> cevizoglu, why not just have a simple website that shows status. that's less work programming, more accesible, and no need to add more utilities to the repository
[08:24] <ormandj> best solution for a job <-- ideal way to design
[08:24] <aizatto> yeah
[08:24] <cevizoglu> aizatto, you don't have to know bash to know how to run scripts
[08:24] <iiiears> sh   don't tell everyone that. - grin
[08:24] <cevizoglu> ormandj, you really think a web site which does that is easier than a bash script?
[08:25] <ormandj> cevizoglu, let's make an example. user A sees update notification, user A clicks to start it, it bombs with errors. user A isn't going to fire up a term, nor know the path to a bash script to check port 80 responses on repository. user a's (most likely) first response will be to visit ubuntulinux.org and check for news/status/etc
[08:25] <ormandj> cevizoglu, and yes, maybe 5 lines of php would work? about the same as 5 lines of bash script?
[08:25] <ormandj> with 10 you could make it record history even, ohhhh ;)
[08:26] <hondje> there, filed it as a feature request for the ubuntu website :)
[08:26] <aizatto> woot
[08:26] <ormandj> cool hondje :) maybe i'll go write something in a few mins to do it
[08:27] <CruzBulli> thanks for the help
[08:27] <cevizoglu> ormandj, only five lines?  should take you only a few minutes then.. care to show me these five lines?
[08:27] <ormandj> no problem CruzBulli, best wishes!
[08:27] <ormandj> cevizoglu, yes, as i said i think i will in a few mins :) i'm eating ATM
[08:27] <cevizoglu> ormandj, ok, I'll wait here...
[08:27] <iiiears> Windows Users... Linux Community
[08:27] <aizatto> well then how about having both a bash script and a webpage for it :) and on the webpage you can link to the bash script
[08:27] <hondje> you' dneed a long line for all the country codes to substitute in *archive, but it wouldn't be a big script
[08:28] <hondje> It'd be nice on a webpage
[08:28] <hondje> that way when someone comes in here having problems, and no one else is using their countries repos (not unreasonable), we can look and narrow down the problem
[08:29] <iiiears> someone might refresh the page repeatedly and slow the server?
[08:29] <brownie17> can someone tell me a program for converting avi to mpeg?
[08:29] <PsyBort> does anyone know the command to check the kernel version?
[08:30] <ormandj> cevizoglu, actually, how convienent. php's website had a simple little example already written! whee ;)
[08:30] <dmlinux> i need some help guys
[08:30] <ormandj> brb while i go make some changes
[08:30] <hondje> lol
[08:30] <CruX_> hi which is the fastest wau to install nvidia drivers ?
[08:30] <hondje> PsyBort: uname -a
[08:30] <hondje> CruX_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:30] <hondje> then edit the xorg.conf file
[08:31] <PsyBort> thanks hondje
[08:31] <CruX_> manualy ?
[08:31] <CruX_> damn ok
[08:31] <dmlinux> Everytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused
[08:31] <eythian> Crux_: unless your monitor params are misdetected, you don't need to edit xorg.conf
[08:32] <dmlinux> anyone deal with BT mice here
[08:32] <hondje> CruX_: there's a way to magically do it, but I don't trust it
[08:32] <dmlinux> Everytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused
[08:32] <dmlinux> whats the problem?
[08:32] <dmlinux> it was working this morning !
[08:33] <ppcguy> hey all
[08:34] <dmlinux> hey
[08:34] <ppcguy> how goes it dmlinux?
[08:35] <PsyBort> another question, output says <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 . from that whats the version and whats the build ie. confused about the -3-386.
[08:35] <brownie17> how do i convert AVI to mpeg. is there a seperate support channel for video editing and shit?
[08:35] <hondje> PsyBort: 3 is a build thing, unimportant, and 386 means it's x86 version
[08:35] <dmlinux> Everytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused, does anyone know what this means !
[08:35] <hondje> are you using warty, PsyBort?
[08:36] <dmlinux> sorry for repeat, just need a answer
[08:36] <ormandj> cevizoglu, http://files.corenode.com/ubuntu/
[08:36] <ormandj> done
[08:36] <dmlinux> ah what the hell, its working now.. wtf
[08:36] <ormandj> it'd be trivial to add a small loop to test all repositories
[08:36] <ndazza> hi! i'm trying to get the binary ati drivers working. I've followed the instructions on the wiki but I can't get direct rendering to work
[08:36] <ormandj> and also make the messages user friendly
[08:36] <iiiears> brownie - i have heard some people use kino for editing. - have yet to try it.
[08:37] <cevizoglu> ormandj, so how many lines of code?
[08:37] <hondje> dmlinux: glad to have helped ;-)
[08:37] <ndazza> in Xorg.0.log there are these two lines: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
[08:37] <ndazza> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[08:37] <ormandj> minus all html, 10
[08:37] <ormandj> and i could easily fit it in 5
[08:38] <brownie17> iiiears, for some reason it is giving me errors when i try to open a video file!
[08:38] <ormandj> now, your turn. write a bash script which checks if port 80 is responding to a proper html 1.1 request for us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:38] <cevizoglu> ormandj, good job... I've been thinking about this, though.. shouldn't the updater just tell you that the server is down?
[08:38] <hondje> it does
[08:38] <hondje> people just don't read error messages, they freak out and think they broke something
[08:38] <cevizoglu> hondje, but shouldn't it also try to find another server for you?
[08:38] <iiiears> I wish i could offer you more help...
[08:38] <hondje> hrm
[08:39] <cevizoglu> hondje, but apt-get doesn't..
[08:39] <hondje>  /etc/apt/mirrors or something
[08:39] <ormandj> cevizoglu, it's a possibility for the future of course, make a suggestion
[08:39] <hondje> that'd be a good thing
[08:39] <Pablo_C> w00t got me sr2 wifi card workin in ubuntu
[08:40] <hondje> ndazza: googling implies that's a bug within the ATI code
[08:40] <ndazza> hondje: ok thanks, I might try the latest version from the ATI site. I've read so many forum posts with no luck whatsoever :(
[08:42] <eythian> Is there a nice way to get all the updates that have been put out since (say) Hoary was released? Just the updates, and not the stuff already on the CD. I'll probably be upgrading my folks to Ubuntu, but they have a bad net connection, and me posting or bringing a CD every once in a while would be a better way.
[08:43] <ormandj> eythian, check for file changes between cd from hoary and cd from breezy, and copy those over?
[08:43] <iiiears> CLI tool to see bandwidth used in real time?
[08:44] <hondje> eythian: easy way, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade on a clean install from a hoary CD
[08:44] <ormandj> er, sorry misread. check for file changes between cd from hoary and repository from hoary now
[08:44] <eythian> hmm. You mean diff the online repositories against the install CD? I suppose that would work.
[08:44] <hondje> eythian: then copy all the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:44] <none_-> ah.. repositories are back online
[08:44] <ormandj> eythian, well if you are trying to build an "update" cd, yes, do that
[08:45] <eythian> hondje: unfortunately, that's not really an option. it would require keeping my desktop in pretty close sync with theirs.
[08:45] <hondje> oh, for more than just once then....do they have broadband?
[08:45] <eythian> yeah, effectively an update CD.
[08:45] <dmlinux> How do you change permissions on a file so that it is executable ??
[08:45] <eythian> hondje: no, they have hourly-metered 20k on a good day, drops out every 30 minutes dialup.
[08:46] <eythian> Hence the need :)
[08:46] <hondje> an interesting problem
[08:46] <eythian> dmlinux: chmod +x file
[08:46] <aizatto> eythian: you can have them mirror your apt repository on your computer lalso
[08:46] <cevizoglu> eythian, what you're looking for is apt-zip, I think
[08:46] <iiiears> interesting one line bash script upgrade info http://www.linuxforu.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1074
[08:46] <eythian> my computer is 2.5 hrs drive away :)
[08:47] <eythian> hmm. apt-zip looks like what I need, looking at the summary. Cheers cevizoglu.
[08:48] <hondje> that's pretty neat
[08:48] <cevizoglu> eythian, yw
[08:49] <eythian> hrm, any idea why I'm getting a lot of: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" from apt-get?
[08:49] <ppcguy> hey all, not to jump in here, but is there a good resource for getting all things flux working with ubuntu?
[08:49] <hondje> eythian: backports?
[08:49] <mae> the new menu log is wicked cool!
[08:50] <eythian> I don't _think_ so. it claims to be in section universe/admin, tho I do have backports in my souces.list
[08:50] <PsyBort> how do u link the kernel source to the modules directory?
[08:50] <dmlinux> how do i change a file to be executable if chmod +x <file> doesnt work
[08:51] <brownie17> is sourceforge a linux only website?
[08:51] <PsyBort> rather how do u link the modules directory to the kernel source?
[08:51] <HappyFool> PsyBort: you probably want to install the linux-headers-386 package
[08:51] <aizatto> dmlinux: why doenst it work?
[08:51] <aizatto> brownie17: no
[08:51] <hondje> brownie17: no
[08:51] <hondje> microsoft has stuff on sf
[08:51] <ormandj> where is epiphany? is it not in the default install?
[08:51] <hondje> ormandj: nope :(
[08:51] <dmlinux> aizatto it says operation not permitted, i have no idea why it doesnt work
[08:51] <bz0b> hey guys
[08:51] <calvin> question for anyone, is it poaab le for a bad processor to fry a motherboard
[08:51] <hondje> dmlinux: how is it not working?
[08:51] <cevizoglu> dmlinux, use sudo
[08:51] <bz0b> what program plays m4p format?
[08:51] <HappyFool> dmlinux: what does 'file filename' tell you?
[08:51] <Yagisan> calvin: yes
[08:51] <PsyBort> happyfool, where can i find this package?
[08:51] <aizatto> dmlinux: try using `sudo chmod +x <file>`
[08:51] <dmlinux> ooo
[08:51] <hondje> whoa, lagfu
[08:51] <HappyFool> PsyBort: should be on the CD
[08:51] <PsyBort> tick.
[08:51] <HappyFool> PsyBort: err, at least i think so
[08:52] <PsyBort> ill check
[08:52] <dmlinux> gotcha thanks all , brb
[08:52] <ppcguy> PsyBort. apt-get install epiphany works fine
[08:52] <bz0b> hey, does anyone know what media player plays m4p format?
[08:52] <calvin> then is it possable for that same motherboard after that happening fry a processor?
[08:52] <hondje> !tell bz0b about restricted
[08:52] <aizatto> bz0b: vlc
[08:52] <brownie17> hondje, when sourceforge says it is a repository, does that mean it is a repo i can add for ubuntu through /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:53] <hondje> brownie17: that's not what they mean
[08:53] <Yagisan> calvin: I don't know - couldn't afford a new cpu to test
[08:53] <aizatto> brownie17: nope, its a repository for free and open source projects, repository being a place meaning like a holding location
[08:53] <PsyBort> happyfool, can i use synaptic to install the headers package?
[08:53] <brownie17> hondje, how can i search through sourceforge for only lniux programs?
[08:53] <HappyFool> PsyBort: yip
[08:53] <PsyBort> cheers
[08:54] <calvin> so basicly I just need to return everything and start over?
[08:54] <Yagisan> Yagisan: I'd be inclined to think - yes - it is possible for the broken M/B to damage a new CPU
[08:54] <HappyFool> PsyBort: make sure you install the version for your kernel (i said -386; might be -686 or something else)
[08:54] <hondje> brownie17: the odds are that if it's a fairly well developed project and not something made in two nights by a drunk CS student, it's included in the ubuntu repositories...and secondly if it's on sourceforge, the odds are it'll run on linux anyway :)
[08:54] <PsyBort> thanks for the tip happy.
[08:55] <Yagisan> calvin: I'd be inclined to think - yes - it is possible for the broken M/B to damage a new CPU. Try to get an exchange
[08:55] <calvin> my sinareo is that my computer stopped, bought a new motherboard, didn't work, boutght a new processor, didn't work, bought new ram, didn't work, replaced power supply, didn't work and bypassed power button
[08:55] <Tachyon> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to print over a wireless network to a printer that's hooked up to an XP machine.  Yet no matter how I configure the printer, it can't "connect to the host," hence I can't get it to print anything.
[08:56] <ppcguy> I would have returned the original long before doing all that calvin
[08:56] <Yagisan> calvin: what CPU ?
[08:56] <calvin> Duron 1.8 g
[08:56] <calvin> replaved with athlon xp 2600
[08:56] <brownie17> hondje, ok so, if i found a thing called mjpeg/linux square, and it is a compilation of different programs, which one would be a video editing program out of the following, "driver-zoran", "MainActor plugin", "mjpegtools", "mmx jpeg", "mpeg2dec-mjpegtools"?
[08:57] <hondje> not a clue :)
[08:57] <Yagisan> calvin: did you make sure you where electrically grounded before installing the CPU ?
[08:57] <opensource> how do i enable ssh in this distro?
[08:57] <calvin> yes, I have a static strap
[08:57] <hondje> mmx jpeg sounds like mmx optimizations to read jpegs faster, mpeg2dec sounds like a converter (usual in linux when you got '2' in the name), etc
[08:58] <bam_> anyone know some decent ipod software?
[08:58] <HaNazir> anyone else having issues with gaim disconnecting the whole time?
[08:58] <brownie17> hondje, so i want to convert an avi file to an mpeg file, know what i could do?
[08:58] <HappyFool> !tell opensource about ssh
[08:58] <bz0b> so when i pay this royalty fee, is it for each song?
[08:58] <hondje> use transcode?
[08:59] <Yagisan> calvin: you didn't accidently crack the cpu core on installing ? (athlon/duron cores are rather fragile)
[08:59] <bz0b> hondje, what
[08:59] <bz0b> nvm
[08:59] <hondje> not for you, for brownie17 :p
[08:59] <bz0b> :P
[08:59] <Yagisan> calvin: No overheating issues ?
[08:59] <calvin> didn't touch it at all
[08:59] <calvin> not a bit
[08:59] <brownie17> hondje, ok thankyou
[08:59] <ksmurf> how do you check for how fast your proc is running in terminal?
[09:00] <calvin> I have sensors in my case to monitor that and none were outsie spec
[09:00] <HappyFool> ksmurf: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:00] <ksmurf> thanks
[09:01] <hondje> I also hate watching ffmpeg and mplayer build....horrors
[09:01] <Yagisan> calvin: OK, just trying the usual culprits first
[09:01] <yapyccky> hello everyone
[09:01] <dallas> I am having some issues installing an ATI driver, anyone good with ATI cards under ubuntu?
[09:01] <PsyBort> happyfool, im having troulble finding the linux-headers-386 package on the cd, some guidance pls
[09:01] <yapyccky> i still didnt fix the problem i have with ethereal with my ubuntu
[09:01] <yapyccky> it seems to be impossible to run it
[09:01] <yapyccky> i always have a error message
[09:01] <HappyFool> PsyBort: let me start synaptic...
[09:02] <ksmurf> HappyFool That tells me whet  it can do.  I want to see what freq it is running at right now...
[09:02] <hondje> yapyccky: run it from a terminal, or edit the menu entry to have it use gksudo instead of gksu
[09:02] <HappyFool> ksmurf: ah, sorry, don't know
[09:02] <yapyccky> hondje: i run it from terminal but i always get a "cound not set capabilieties " error
[09:02] <PsyBort> kay
[09:02] <HappyFool> PsyBort: when you say 'having trouble', what do you mean?
[09:02] <hondje> oh :o not the 'need root!' error
[09:02] <HappyFool> PsyBort: is it not in synaptic's package list?
[09:02] <PsyBort> urm, i cant spot it
[09:03] <hondje> yapyccky: are you using hoary or breezy?
[09:03] <HappyFool> PsyBort: you're running hoary, right?
[09:03] <yapyccky> hondje: that's a good question...could u tell me how to check it??
[09:03] <HappyFool> PsyBort: that is, ubuntu 5.04 ?
[09:03] <hondje> yapyccky: cat /etc/issue
[09:03] <PsyBort> happy, i really dont know...how do i find that out, and whats the difference
[09:03] <dallas> I installed the ATI drivers and my glxgears performance went down... anyone got any ideas?
[09:04] <ormandj> bbiab
[09:04] <ksmurf> HappyFool cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling
[09:04] <yapyccky> hondje : breezy badger
[09:04] <Belutz> dallas, are you on hoary or breezy?
[09:04] <HappyFool> PsyBort: how did you install ubuntu?
[09:04] <HappyFool> ksmurf: ok, cool
[09:04] <dallas> Belutz, 5.04 sorry don't remember the name
[09:04] <deFrysk> dallas, glxgears is NOT a benchmarker
[09:05] <hondje> yapyccky: do a dist-upgrade, and if that doesn't fix it I'd recommend filing a bug in malone
[09:05] <PsyBort> distro came on cd in PC Authortity, slaped in it and cd-room booted into a installation menu
[09:05] <Belutz> dallas, you could use proprietary ati drivers, let me find the links
[09:05] <mr_roboto> opensource: get the package, apt-get install ssh
[09:05] <HappyFool> PsyBort: ok, what does 'System -> About Ubuntu' say?
[09:05] <dallas> Belutz, that is what I am using
[09:05] <brownie17> HappyFool, if he doesn't know, chances are its hoary
[09:05] <yapyccky> hondje : ok thx so much.
[09:05] <HappyFool> PsyBort: should be 4.10 or 5.04 or 5.10
[09:06] <hondje>  /etc/issue tells version, too
[09:06] <dallas> Belutz, for some reason it is seeing the card as unkown and on the PCI bus
[09:06] <opensource> mr_roboto i do have it installed i just get port 22: Connection refused error
[09:07] <Belutz> dallas, make sure you follow this steps and please read the thread till the end http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495
[09:07] <libervisco> Hello.. Does anyone know of a program that can convert ogg to wawe files?
[09:07] <dallas> did that
[09:07] <hondje> what's a wawe
[09:07] <tristanmike> i think he meant wave...
[09:07] <HappyFool> file full of animations of hands moving
[09:08] <hondje> oh, dur :)
[09:08] <tristanmike> just helping to clarify ;)
[09:08] <Belutz> dallas, did you copy the fglrx.ko into your home directory?
[09:08] <HappyFool> ogg123 will do it from cli (vorbis-tools package, i think)
[09:08] <mr_roboto> opensource: what does this command tell you?   netstat -a |grep ssh
[09:08] <dallas> Belutz, no...
[09:09] <hondje> gqmpeg is a gui for it I think
[09:09] <libervisco> HappyFool, ok, thanks
[09:09] <cevizoglu> wawe: the warped wave editor?
[09:09] <Belutz> dallas, well i suggest you read that forum thread's till the end
[09:09] <hondje> lol
[09:09] <dallas> Belutz, I am gonna install UT 2K4 and see what kind of performance I am realy getting.
[09:09] <hondje> why would you want to convert from ogg to wav?
[09:09] <calvin> what program can I use to play WMv files in ubuntu
[09:09] <calvin> ?
[09:10] <Belutz> dallas, my glxgears performance is about 2000fps using ati mobility 9600
[09:10] <hondje> xmms is popular
[09:10] <dallas> Belutz, as in all 12 pages? or just the OP?
[09:10] <Belutz> dallas, and my fgl_glxgears is about 300fps
[09:10] <hondje> I use beep media player, more, but rhythmbox is also nice, totem, banshee, amarok...
[09:10] <opensource> mr_roboto tcp 0  0 *:ssh    *:*   LISTEN
[09:10] <opensource> tcp        0      0 ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>:ssh      ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>:53799   ESTABLISHED
[09:10] <yapyccky> hondje : should i reboot machine after dist-upgrade?
[09:10] <Belutz> dallas, follow the first post, if you have problem, find it in the next thread
[09:11] <hondje> yapyccky: if it upgraded your kernel (or says to), I would
[09:11] <renedox> has anyone been able to get mpd working on ubuntu?
[09:11] <yapyccky> k
[09:11] <mr_roboto> opensource: what is that connection from <IP_ADDRESS> that is currently running?!
[09:11] <dallas> Belutz, okay I will go through it again
[09:12] <Belutz> dallas,  :)
[09:12] <opensource> hondje lol
[09:13] <opensource> mr_roboto im sshed into a server but cant scp any files to my system
[09:13] <mr_roboto> opensource: well for christ's sake... you said it wasn't working!
[09:13] <opensource> mr_roboto ups sry my bad
[09:14] <zack_> i have a strange java problem
[09:14] <mr_roboto> opensource: when you say you "can't scp"  what EXACTLY is going wrong?
[09:15] <zack_> i have java ubuntu package installed... but everytime i load a webpage with java it will crash firefox or konquer
[09:15] <opensource> mr_roboto it says "ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused"
[09:15] <Tachyon> Can anyone help me with my printer problem? :(  I'm trying to add a printer that's connected to my XP machine, but no matter what method I try, it's not working.  Samba refuses to add the printer at all, Unix LPD adds it but can't connect. . . .
[09:16] <mr_roboto> opensource:  well ummmm stupid question but did you, in fact, enable the server on THAT host?    you are running the server on <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:17] <mr_roboto> just run scp from <IP_ADDRESS>, not the other direction
[09:17] <opensource> mr_roboto i had no problem doing it when i was running fedora, so i'd imagine it would be the same
[09:17] <zack_> anyone else have problems with firefox or konquer and jre 1.4.3 or w/e it is
[09:18] <mr_roboto> opensource: scp needs to talk to an ssh daemon. if one isn't running on ...79, it's not going to work
[09:18] <B_166-ER-X> where can i find CEDEGA ?
[09:18] <mr_roboto> what is <IP_ADDRESS>?  another linux machine?
[09:19] <hondje> you can scp to and from a box running sshd, so if you can't do it from that box, you're using scp wrong
[09:19] <crtr> B_166-ER-X, http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=379294&query=debian+
[09:19] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[09:19] <PsyBort> happy, head caved in, sorry i couldnt find the version u were looking for.
[09:19] <PsyBort> pls explain where agian
[09:19] <iiiears> transgaming is the organisation they offer a $5 per month subscription - simple install or a free version no point2play from their CVS servr - difficult install
[09:19] <iiiears> !cedega
[09:19] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:19] <opensource> mr_roboto <IP_ADDRESS> is my machine and im trying to transfer some files from <IP_ADDRESS> how would i enable the ssh deamon? i can connect to the server via ssh just cant transfer any data
[09:19] <mr_roboto> hondje, you have to be sending the scp request TO the machine running the server
[09:19] <kongnamool> when upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, has anyone seen this?
[09:19] <kongnamool> Unpacking xrgb (from .../xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb) ...
[09:19] <kongnamool> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:19] <kongnamool>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/showrgb', which is also in package xutils
[09:19] <kongnamool> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:19] <kongnamool>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb
[09:20] <hondje> yeah, but if you can scp to the server, you can scp from it
[09:20] <discipleofyeshua> hello
[09:20] <kongnamool> I am not finding hints in the forums or on Google
[09:20] <opensource> B_166-ER-X u got aim?
[09:20] <discipleofyeshua> anyone here?
[09:21] <mr_roboto> yes, but the scp client has to be talking TO the server.    in other words, if i have an scp client on my windows machine, that does NOT mean i can be on my linux box and scp to or from the windows machine
[09:21] <mr_roboto> the other direction would work
[09:21] <mr_roboto> that's why i'm asking
[09:21] <B_166-ER-X> yeap, Gaim, in fact
[09:21] <hondje> oh, I see what your'e saying
[09:21] <opensource> mr_roboto their both linux boxes
[09:22] <mr_roboto> opensource: go to <IP_ADDRESS> and do the same netstat command
[09:22] <zack_> i need help ... eveytime i load a java app my broswer crashes ;x
[09:22] <mr_roboto> opensource: what does it say?
[09:22] <renedox> has anyone been able to get mpd working on ubuntu?
[09:22] <opensource> mr_roboto i also do this from a gentoo box, i just had to do /etc/init.d sshd start and it worked, the output i gave you was from 1.79
[09:23] <opensource> mr_roboto ups im wrong lemme get that for u
[09:23] <calvin> how do I install decoders for totem to play WMV files?
[09:23] <mr_roboto> opensource: no it was not
[09:23] <mr_roboto> opensource: because 79 was the remote address
[09:23] <opensource> mr_roboto yes you are right im confused already one sec
[09:24] <fahim> hi guys
[09:24] <fahim> can anybody tell me with which command I can delete a folder?
[09:24] <Trashcan> rm -r folder
[09:24] <hondje> rmdir, rm -rf foldername if it's not empty
[09:24] <gsuveg> re
[09:24] <Trashcan> or rm-rf folder
[09:24] <rjordan> calvin, install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:24] <gsuveg> anybody use ubutnu-lite ?
[09:24] <fahim> ahh thx :)
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> hello?
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> anybody on tonght?
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> tonight
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> calvin... i am wondering the same thing about MP3 files and CDR disks, and DVD's
[09:24] <calvin> where do I get taht and how do I install it
[09:24] <discipleofyeshua> but especially MP3's i cant get them to play on totem or the sound player
[09:25] <calvin> new to ubuntu
[09:25] <Trashcan> open terminal
[09:25] <discipleofyeshua> oh yah, me too
[09:25] <zack_> same
[09:25] <opensource> mr_roboto tcp     0      0 outcast:53799    <IP_ADDRESS>:ssh   ESTABLISHED
[09:25] <opensource> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     10229    /tmp/ssh-TZTFca7303/a gent.7303
[09:25] <mr_roboto> opensource: even if you don't have the server running on 79, if you are ON 79, you can scp to or from 1.1
[09:25] <Trashcan> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:25] <zack_> wtf why does java apps crash meh firefox!
[09:25] <mr_roboto> opensource: ok the server isn't running there, that's why you can't scp FROM 1.1
[09:25] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: tonight ? im drink my morning kaffe ;)
[09:25] <Trashcan> :D
[09:25] <mr_roboto> opensource: just go to 1.79 and do your scp there   (to or from 1.1)
[09:26] <Trashcan> woot woot kaffee
[09:26] <opensource> mr_roboto oh without logging in to the server?
[09:26] <calvin> how do I do that?
[09:26] <sobersabre> hi, is there a way to add gswitch it plugins ?
[09:26] <Trashcan> calvin
[09:26] <mr_roboto> opensource: well of course you're going to have to log in unless you're doing public key authentication
[09:26] <gsuveg> Trashcan: mea culpa. tooo morning is. im me install a server. broaf
[09:26] <sobersabre> i want flags to apear instead of letters.
[09:26] <sobersabre> on gnome panel
[09:27] <mr_roboto> opensource:   i mean  just do soemthing like     "scp <myfile>  <user>@<IP_ADDRESS>:<mydir>
[09:27] <discipleofyeshua> whats that gsurveg? who are you and what are you saying about coffee? are you in alaska?
[09:27] <Trashcan> Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[09:27] <Trashcan> and type this
[09:27] <Trashcan> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[09:27] <opensource> mr_roboto well i ment without sshing into the box
[09:27] <Trashcan> then type your password
[09:27] <Trashcan> and press enter
[09:27] <hondje> alaska is at like 10pm
[09:27] <mr_roboto> opensource: you don't have to ssh in first
[09:27] <opensource> mr_roboto i'll try that right now
[09:28] <mr_roboto> opensource: or the other dir will work too   "scp <user>@<IP_ADDRESS>:<mydir>/<myfile> ."   for example
[09:28] <gsuveg> Trashcan: but other os ad leenux
[09:28] <Trashcan> eh?
[09:28] <calvin> there is no "terminal" there
[09:28] <Trashcan> hoary?
[09:28] <gsuveg> Trashcan: a freebsd server with jails ;)
[09:29] <gsuveg> but please dont k-line me
[09:29] <Trashcan> on hoary: right click desktop, Open Terminal
[09:29] <dallas> Belutz, I looked at the link on that post and the first file the other post says to copy isn't on my machine anywhere.
[09:29] <Trashcan> gsuveg: you lost me at 'Trashcan:'
[09:29] <gsuveg> pardon ?
[09:29] <opensource> B_166-ER-X give me ur email i'll get it to you within the next hour
[09:29] <mr_roboto> is switching from hoary to breezy as simple as 'sed s/hoary/breezy/g sources.list' ?
[09:29] <Trashcan> its pretty damn simple
[09:29] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: no. im in hungary. you know where is ?
[09:29] <discipleofyeshua> ok, i am in alaska, but does anyone know why i cant get mp3's to play on my system? i have ubuntu latest release
[09:30] <mr_roboto> and then doing a dist-upgrade?
[09:30] <Trashcan> yeh
[09:30] <discipleofyeshua> oh, i see
[09:30] <Trashcan> what the tutorial says, work
[09:30] <Trashcan> s
[09:30] <Kuolio> mr_roboto: I've heard, and experienced my self, that dist-upgrade is not working proper :(
[09:30] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: you can read on ubuntufaq
[09:30] <discipleofyeshua> i do know where that is, Jah bless
[09:30] <Kuolio> discipleofyeshua: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:30] <Trashcan> kuolio: what problem did you have? :s
[09:30] <B_166-ER-X> the mp3 maybe doesnt work at a high latitude ?
[09:31] <mr_roboto> kuolio: my system is working great now... wondering if i should try to switch to breezy :)
[09:31] <calvin> trashcan: found it in the system menu, thanks
[09:31] <gsuveg> Trashcan: im use bsd on servers
[09:31] <lancellor> good night everybody how do i do togdesklets start with ubuntu
[09:31] <discipleofyeshua> will they really tell me though?
[09:32] <Trashcan> wow, i had no idea mp3 was a fee format?!
[09:32] <discipleofyeshua> ok, i will check that out
[09:32] <Trashcan> weak
[09:32] <Trashcan> and 75c, ugh
[09:32] <cevizoglu> Trashcan, mp3 isn't a free format
[09:32] <discipleofyeshua> enjoy your morning coffee...  i love mine with organic homade half and flaf... :)
[09:32] <cevizoglu> Trashcan, hence the existence of ogg
[09:33] <Trashcan> :)
[09:33] <Trashcan> I know, I said 'fee format'
[09:33] <gsuveg> discipleofyeshua: you can play mp3 as other format on you linux
[09:33] <lightsource> Where can I find a guide on how to mount my other partition.
[09:33] <Trashcan> ie. pay a fee to support it
[09:33] <vengeful_> i had that too
[09:33] <Trashcan> !tell lightsource about mount
[09:33] <discipleofyeshua> does anyone know how i can load new software that isnt on the "add remove programs" list???
[09:33] <cevizoglu> Trashcan, oh, I see  :)   fee format
[09:33] <gsuveg> Trashcan: the ogg is better but cant play it on mp3 player like ipod and friends :(
[09:33] <Trashcan> :(
[09:33] <vengeful_> installed various media players
[09:33] <discipleofyeshua> then why wont they play do you think?
[09:34] <vengeful_> no idea which one fixed it for me
[09:34] <gsuveg> my good musics in ogg, what else ;)
[09:34] <Kuolio> mr_roboto: well, it can work by doing dist-upgrade, but you might be better of to have a clean install cd for breezy, just in case... and backup everything valuable before doing anything else :)
[09:34] <vengeful_> installed 4 at once
[09:34] <Trashcan> desciple: breezy? go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manger
[09:34] <discipleofyeshua> should such a common thing as an MP3 codec have come with the installation CD? is the problem that i have to DL it?
[09:34] <mr_roboto> opensource: that working ok now?
[09:34] <Trashcan> desciple: did you not read the article? MP3 is NOT a free format
[09:34] <cevizoglu> discipleofyeshua, it's not included because mp3 isn't free
[09:35] <Trashcan> and won't be supported
[09:35] <Kuolio> discipleofyeshua: it's a propietary software, you'd have to pay to have it on installation cd
[09:35] <lancellor> when i turn my computer off and i reboot desklets don't pop up i have to run gdesklets again
[09:35] <Trashcan> the reason microsoft can play it is because they pay for it
[09:35] <vengeful_> wait till you try and copy mp3s to cd :-P
[09:35] <zack_> wtf why does java apps crash meh firefox!
[09:35] <cevizoglu> zack_, you're starting to sound like a spambot
[09:35] <Trashcan> lol
[09:36] <Trashcan> !+mirror
[09:36] <ubotu> mirror is probably repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:36] <zack_> lol
[09:36] <zack_> i havent even send it 5 times
[09:36] <discipleofyeshua> trahscan, why do the programs say they can play MP3 formatt, if its not legal?
[09:37] <discipleofyeshua> trashcan
[09:37] <zack_> xmms owns disasm
[09:37] <zack_> discipleofyeshua,
[09:37] <Trashcan> not sure, descriple
[09:37] <discipleofyeshua> or free
[09:37] <discipleofyeshua> that is
[09:37] <wrabbit01> Hi.... I have downloaded and "installed" the latest java but am now confused as to how I enable(or install) the actual plugin
[09:37] <wrabbit01> Can anybody help?
[09:37] <wrabbit01> Help files aren't helping at the moment
[09:37] <zack_> ^ wrabbit01  i have the same problem
[09:37] <gsuveg> wrabbit01: and its on in ff plugins ?
[09:37] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: you get it from sun?
[09:37] <zack_> it just crashes my browser
[09:37] <gsuveg> funny
[09:38] <wrabbit01> mr_roboto: yes
[09:38] <wrabbit01> gsuveg: no idea if it's on.  Don't know how to enable plugins
[09:38] <wrabbit01> gsuveg: can't find any options in menu
[09:38] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: ok, do this
[09:38] <zack_> can i do it too i think i have the same problem :)
[09:39] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: in your ~/.mozilla/plugins dir make  a link
[09:39] <iiiears> mp3 format is patented and the rights to use it in products costs money. BIG money.
[09:39] <tensor> what's a good alternative for nautilus cd-burner for burning iso images?
[09:39] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/java/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so  (or wherever you installed it to)
[09:39] <Cashel> howdies..
[09:39] <gsuveg> http://ubuntuguide.org/ <<
[09:39] <gsuveg> wrabbit01: ^ here is a howto
[09:40] <Alex_BO> HELLO!How can I extract only a specific file from a tarball?
[09:40] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:41] <wrabbit01> I'm in the dir.. how do I create the link?  Still finding it hard to use console
[09:41] <opensource> mr_roboto omg we did it :)
[09:41] <BiSK-8> i have a problem with gtkpod, it tells me that the itunesDB is missing, what can i do?
[09:41] <mr_roboto> opensource:  congrats :)
[09:41] <iiiears> Alex - open the tar with file roller (right click) and extract anything.
[09:41] <opensource> mr_roboto thanks man sry if gave u hard time
[09:41] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: ln -s <location of plugin.so> .
[09:42] <Cashel> (WW) Ignoring request to load module GLcore
[09:42] <Cashel>   ... this seems to be the only problem, yet its enough... Tryin to get fglrx prop drivers to work, same method I used in Hoary doesnt seem to be working in Breezy...  can anyone help?
[09:42] <mr_roboto> opensource: np... hopefully you understand how it works now :)
[09:42] <jrattner1> when is breezy OFFICIALLY released?
[09:42] <wrabbit01> I'm using breezy... will this make a difference?
[09:42] <Alex_BO> iiiears, i would like not to depend from gui
[09:42] <crimsun> jrattner1: 13 Oct
[09:42] <iiiears> tensor - opinions vary but most like either gnomebaker or k3b
[09:42] <jrattner1> crimsun, so 11 days
[09:42] <adam_> hello all
[09:42] <crimsun> jrattner1: or thereabouts.
[09:42] <adam_> anyone want to help me with a quick question?
[09:43] <MadpilotPPC> how do I get Nautilus (in Hoary) to behave more like WinExplorer? I can't get used to the damned odd way the default Nautilus works, with windows popping up all over...
[09:43] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: the cmmand to create the link is kind of like cp (copy)   you "ln -s <source> <dest>"
[09:43] <adam_> anyone get alc850 drivers to work in ubuntu?
[09:43] <wrabbit01> ah, right.  Thanks for that.
[09:43] <adam_> or how do i install a .run file?
[09:43] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: don't worry your not alone
[09:43] <none_-> adam_, chmod +x file ./file
[09:44] <zack_> adam
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Go into the options/prefrences
[09:44] <zack_> sudo sh blahblah.run
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: In there somewhere is a option for web view
[09:44] <adam_> ah
[09:44] <adam_> kk
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Enable that
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: then on the panel that comes up on the left hand side of each window
[09:44] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Click at the top of it, and change to tree
[09:45] <Alex_BO> halo?it seems there isn't an answer for me
[09:45] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Thankfully nautlius sucks a whole lot less in breezy
[09:45] <locomorto> none of this spatial crap anymore
[09:45] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, Options/Prefs where? Nautilus seems to have no Options menu...
[09:45] <BiSK-8> i have a problem with gtkpod, it tells me that the itunesDB is missing, what can i do?
[09:46] <adam_> damnit
[09:46] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: It should be at the top
[09:46] <hansi_xp> Hello, i was wondering if someone has experienced slow web browsing scrolling?
[09:46] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: Under edit or some such
[09:47] <locomorto> MadpilotPPC: I'll check the wiki
[09:47] <jrattner1> is flgrx standard in breezy
[09:47] <jrattner1> like will it detect im using ATI and use the appropriate drivers?
[09:47] <tensor> iiiears, thanks, will try both
[09:47] <Cashel> jrattner1, not for 3d no
[09:47] <adam_> i didnt install the kernel source files...
[09:47] <graig> for some things i like spacial, and for some i like web view.
[09:47] <locomorto> Madpilot: what options are under edit and view?
[09:48] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, got it sorted - you have to choose the "open in browser view" option...
[09:48] <graig> like when you are dealing with lots of files and folders, copying files around and moving files to other folders, spacial rules.
[09:48] <jrattner1> Cashel, what do you mean not for 3d?
[09:48] <Cashel> jrattner1, you using hoary?
[09:48] <graig> but when you just wanna navigate your folders, webview seems better.
[09:48] <locomorto> Madpilot: ah good, I'm sorry i was so vauge
[09:48] <jrattner1> Cashel, yes
[09:48] <mr_roboto> wrabbit01: that is all i had to do. applets work fine for me in firefox now
[09:48] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, so the default in Breezy is going to be tree/webview rather than that damned spatial?
[09:48] <adam_> which do i use to get the source files for the kernel?
[09:48] <locomorto> Madpilot: It just I havn't used gnome 2.10 for a while now
[09:48] <Cashel> jrattner1, you have to go through all the same shit in breezy to get 3d acceleration working...
[09:48] <locomorto> Madpilot: YEs
[09:48] <graig> eww treeview?
[09:49] <adam_> ot it
[09:49] <graig> so you won't be able to see the icons?
[09:49] <adam_> got it
[09:49] <jrattner1> hoary doesnt like me
[09:49] <locomorto> Madpilot: Only one windows
[09:49] <jrattner1> it wont work
[09:49] <hansi_xp> i was wondering if someone could give me some suggestions as to why web browsing scrolling slow. i think video driver but installed nvidia.
[09:49] <locomorto> graig: it stats out with icons
[09:49] <Cashel> jrattner1, and, having just gone through all that crap again, its not working for me so....
[09:49] <locomorto> graig: you can go view -> view as list
[09:49] <MadpilotPPC> locomorto, hallelujah and other things... I've always disliked the lots-of-windows navigators, like MyComputer in Windows
[09:49] <locomorto> And it behavious much like MAC OS X then
[09:50] <graig> hey locomoto, are you using xchat?
[09:50] <locomorto> graig: yes
[09:50] <linner> hey ya'll
[09:50] <graig> how do you send a tell?
[09:51] <locomorto> /msg <person name> <message>
[09:51] <iiiears> hansi_xp - glxgears  will help narrow things down a bit. what does it say?
[09:51] <locomorto> Or right click on there name
[09:51] <locomorto> Open dialog window
[09:51] <locomorto> Then its much like another channel
[09:51] <locomorto> Also if they reply back then you get a window opended as well
[09:51] <discipleofyeshua> where do i download a program that will play Mp3 files on my ubuntu?
[09:52] <MadpilotPPC> !tell discipleofyeshua about mp3
[09:52] <NsOmNiAc> discipleofyeshua : xmms
[09:52] <[drunk] logic> discipleofyeshua, sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:52] <all4n> hey people..  I'm just wondering whether it is hard (possible?) to set up the different virtual desktops in gnome to have individual resolutions..  any ideas?
[09:52] <locomorto> NsOmNiAc: actually its gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:52] <hansi_xp> iiiears: it's roughly at 2147 fps
[09:52] <Belutz> beep-media-player
[09:52] <discipleofyeshua> whats that?
[09:52] <discipleofyeshua> i am sorry, i am very new to linux... where do i go?
[09:52] <locomorto> I think xmms still uses gstreamer
[09:53] <locomorto> !mp3
[09:53] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:53] <MadpilotPPC> discipleofyeshua, follow the URL that ubotu just sent you, that'll walk you through installing media codecs
[09:53] <locomorto> Or the one just there ;)
[09:53] <jrattner1> discipleofyeshua, type xmms
[09:53] <opensource> mr_roboto thx again, im gone
[09:54] <discipleofyeshua> thank you very much
[09:54] <mr_roboto> opensource:  ok man    have a good one
[09:54] <MadpilotPPC> jrattner1, xmms isn't installed in Ubuntu by default...
[09:54] <adam_> ok guys....
[09:54] <adam_> i need some help
[09:54] <lightsource> what is the command to see what drives I have? like hda1 and hda2 and sda1.
[09:54] <adam_> i cant get my sound working
[09:54] <all4n> lightsource, "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:54] <adam_> and i have ran the sudo sh NFORCE blah blah
[09:54] <iiiears> hansi_xp that sounds okay
[09:54] <adam_> it says it cant find the kernel source tree
[09:55] <adam_> when i go to install them
[09:55] <adam_> suggestions?
[09:55] <twysted> you need to apt-get the kernel sources i belive :)
[09:55] <adam_> i used synaptic
[09:55] <adam_> to do it
[09:55] <jsteidl> thats the same :)
[09:55] <HappyFool> adam_: try linux-headers-386 before installing full source
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> adam_, in synaptic ... search for kernel source
[09:55] <jrattner1> MadpilotPPC, my bad
[09:55] <adam_> im using a64
[09:56] <HappyFool> ok, linux-headers-amd64
[09:56] <locomorto> lightsource: sudo fdisk -l or use the system resource viewer (but that latter only shows mounted)
[09:56] <adam_> and i installed everything under what said source
[09:57] <adam_> then i logged off, and logged back in
[09:57] <adam_> and it still wont install
[09:57] <adam_> same error
[09:57] <lightsource> ok, well I found the different devices, and... which one holds my pictures if its on my windows???
[09:58] <adam_> im just going to up date.... and see if it fixes it
[09:58] <graig> lightsource, if you just installed windows, that probably means your windows drive is not mounted.
[09:58] <adam_> i just dont have sound... pain in the butt
[09:59] <lightsource> well I have already mounted one drive, but I forgot to save the chat and now I don'tknow how to mount the drive again...
[09:59] <lightsource> like I've got my music drive mounted, now I need my pictures drive monuted.
[09:59] <graig> ahh.
[09:59] <graig> let me see if i can find a link.
[09:59] <lightsource> k thnx
[10:00] <MadpilotPPC> !+mount
[10:00] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[10:00] <eythian> anyone know how to get random desktop picture changes in gnome?
[10:00] <graig> are they ntfs drives?
[10:00] <Belutz> !tell lightsource about windowsdrives
[10:00] <iiiears> locomorto - handy automount script. check out ubotu's link.
[10:00] <iiiears> !ntfs
[10:00] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[10:01] <locomorto> iiiears: ?
[10:02] <wrabbit01> Alrighty... it's not working.  I've created the symbolic link to the plugin but it's not showing up in about:plugins.  It's not working at all.
[10:02] <wrabbit01> I think I'm missing something
[10:04] <calvin> I am still having problems playing WMV files, can anyone help?
[10:04] <graig> what have you tried sofar calvin?
[10:04] <calvin> not sure
[10:04] <graig> did you try xine-totem?
[10:04] <calvin> new to ubuntu graid
[10:04] <graig> and windows codecs?
[10:04] <calvin> how do I install the codecs and where do I get them?
[10:05] <Alex_BO> HELLO! Why if I write "tar -t tarball.tar" nothing happens? I'm sure tarball is not empty
[10:05] <graig> i get partial support like that, some wmv files dont work still, but some videos will work.
[10:05] <calvin> how do I install the codecs?
[10:06] <graig> you can get the codec's at this site,  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[10:06] <HappyFool> Alex_BO: try 'tar -tf tarball.tar'
[10:06] <MadpilotPPC> !+w32codecs
[10:06] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:06] <calvin> and how do I install it
[10:06] <MadpilotPPC> calvin, see ubotu's post just above ^^^
[10:06] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, I'm stupid.tnls
[10:06] <Alex_BO> HappyFool, I'm stupid.tnks
[10:06] <Belutz> MadpilotPPC, why you use + after ! ?
[10:07] <graig> oh wow, get the deb up there, that should make it real easy.
[10:07] <calvin> what do I do with the file when I download it>
[10:07] <MadpilotPPC> Belutz, it forces ubotu to post the longer !tells to the channel, rather than in /msg to the person who requested it
[10:08] <iiiears> sudo dpkg -i your.deb should install it.
[10:08] <Belutz> MadpilotPPC, oh i see :)
[10:08] <calvin> graig: what do I do with the file once it's downloaded
[10:08] <adam_> i still cant get my sound to work after the update... anyone want to help me?
[10:08] <Belutz> calvin, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[10:08] <adam_> i have the driver file
[10:08] <wrabbit01> Whoooooo, it works. :)
[10:08] <vengeful_> ubotu..think you could help me with something? Ubuntu is the only distro so far that i can use for my laptop(inspiron 6000) debian, centos, fedora, freebsd, mandriva all leave me with an unusual gui due to my graphics chipset....ubuntu works perfectly but i see there is an update available in xorg..think if i update il have probs?
[10:08] <wrabbit01> Took a while but thanks for the help
[10:09] <adam_> and i ran it. but it says it cant find the source tree
[10:09] <adam_> i have installed everything under source in synaptic
[10:09] <HappyFool> vengeful_: ubotu is a bot ;). updates *should* be safe, but there's no guarantee
[10:09] <adam_> ubotu, kernel source tree
[10:09] <ubotu> adam_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:09] <vengeful_> oh im dim
[10:09] <Dalik> anyone have a problem where you move a window and you get a fuzzy sound from the speakers?
[10:09] <crimsun> adam_: what's the issue?
[10:09] <vengeful_> i thought it was a guru of some sorts hehe
[10:10] <Dalik> I do know that its not the sound because it happens if I mute the sound
[10:10] <Dalik> it happens in linux and windows
[10:10] <adam_> i cant get the driver files from nvidia to find the source tree
[10:10] <HappyFool> vengeful_: nah, he's just cheeky
[10:10] <vengeful_> i think il stay as i am for now till it gets official support
[10:10] <vengeful_> as it works ok :-)
[10:10] <adam_> crimsun, i cant get the driver files to find the kernel source tree
[10:11] <adam_> crimsun, and i have installed all files under source...
[10:11] <crimsun> adam_: what are you trying to get working?
[10:11] <adam_> crimsun, my sound
[10:11] <cevizoglu> !bot
[10:11] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cevizoglu? I think not. Bot, jot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[10:11] <cevizoglu> see, he is kind of a guru  :)
[10:11] <vengeful_> ok i see what you mean
[10:11] <MadpilotPPC> !botsnack
[10:11] <ubotu> thanks madpilotppc :)
[10:11] <HappyFool> vengeful_: in general you should use the latest available package provided by the ubuntu archives
[10:11] <calvin> Belutz; I put that in but it can';t find the package
[10:11] <inc|freaky> is there any possibility of configuring acpi using KDE?
[10:12] <inc|freaky> a GUI frontend
[10:12] <crimsun> adam_: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:12] <graig> where did you download the file calvin?
[10:12] <calvin> desktop
[10:12] <crimsun> hang on, brb, getting a drink.
[10:12] <calvin> where should it go
[10:12] <graig> ok. open a new terminal calvin.
[10:12] <calvin> ok
[10:12] <graig> type cd Desktop
[10:13] <calvin> ok
[10:13] <graig> then sudo dpkg -i win32  then hit tab
[10:13] <calvin> things being case sensative is something I'm getting used to
[10:13] <graig> yeah hehe.
[10:13] <adam_> ok, it says nvidia... so i guess it istalled?
[10:13] <bbr> hello
[10:13] <adam_> crimsun, it says nvidia... so i guess now, i have something else wrong
[10:13] <graig> tab should complete the rest of the filename, then it should install.
[10:14] <twysted> adam, make sure your sound isnt muted :)
[10:14] <calvin> it just beeks at me
[10:14] <graig> when you hit tab it beeps?
[10:14] <calvin> yeah
[10:14] <graig> type LS  but lowercase
[10:15] <calvin> LS?
[10:15] <vengeful_> ls heh
[10:15] <graig> its like the dos dir command.
[10:15] <graig> but ls
[10:15] <graig> it should list the files on your desktop.
[10:17] <calvin> I just typed in thw whole file name and it worked
[10:17] <calvin> thanks graig
[10:17] <graig> yep.
[10:17] <bam_> why does gtkpod say im disconnected when i am not
[10:17] <graig> now theres one other thing you gotta do calvin.
[10:17] <graig> you gotta install totem-xine.
[10:17] <graig> its in synaptic.
[10:17] <bam_> and how do i display my library on the computer?
[10:18] <calvin> those are already on my system
[10:18] <calvin> does that matter?
[10:18] <graig> if you already have totem-xine  (not totem-gstreamer) then you should be able to play wma files right now.
[10:19] <calvin> I have totem and I have xine, is that the same thing?
[10:19] <graig> yes.
[10:19] <graig> try opening the video or wma file in xine now.
[10:19] <Chousuke> not really.
[10:19] <Chousuke> you need the totem-xine totem installed if you want to use the xine engine in totem.
[10:19] <calvin> it works, thanks
[10:20] <graig> yep.
[10:21] <vengeful_> see..i hang here...you pick up loads of useful stuff :-D
[10:21] <graig> yeah you do hehe.
[10:22] <Alex_BO> is there a way to see the transfer's percent with the command mv?
[10:23] <eythian> Alex_BO, nope. I often use rsync --progress if I need to see it.
[10:23] <twysted> wb calvin
[10:24] <calvin> thanks
[10:24] <calvin> graig: I have no sound
[10:24] <crimsun> calvin: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:24] <Alex_BO> eythian, okey.tnks
[10:27] <calvin> crumsum: I have sound from the computer but not from my WMV video files
[10:27] <graig> are other videos giving sound through mplayer?
[10:28] <adam_> this sucks
[10:28] <calvin> it's through xine and yes
[10:28] <twysted> what does adam
[10:28] <adam_> crimsun, i got the sound to work
[10:28] <adam_> i cant get xmms to install
[10:28] <graig> i had some problems with certain wmv videos, some wont play, and some play perfectly.
[10:29] <crimsun> adam_: sudo aptitude install xmms
[10:29] <adam_> and my apt-get doesnt work for some odd reason
[10:29] <calvin> how do I install MPlayer-1.0pre7try2.tar.bz2
[10:29] <Kuolio> graig: wmv9 is very problematic :(
[10:29] <adam_> haha
[10:29] <adam_> forgot install cmd
[10:29] <adam_> haha
[10:29] <adam_> its 4:30 am.... im tired... and just woke up
[10:30] <hansi_xp> calvin. i think you gotta bunzip it first.
[10:30] <graig> calvin, it looks like that would be the source code archive.
[10:30] <calvin> did that, how from there?
[10:30] <crimsun> calvin: enable the multiverse repository, then sudo aptitude install mplayer
[10:30] <hansi_xp> untar it?
[10:30] <hansi_xp> no don't do that!
[10:30] <hansi_xp> i had big arse troubles installing mplayer from there!
[10:30] <calvin> sudo apitude?
[10:30] <adam_> crimsun, it says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[10:31] <crimsun> adam_: something else has it open, like Synaptic, apt-get, ...
[10:31] <hansi_xp> in the #mplayer channel, i was told to compile it
[10:31] <crimsun> adam_: so close it.
[10:31] <Belutz> adam_, maybe your synaptic is still running?
[10:31] <adam_> device manager... duh
[10:31] <adam_> haha
[10:31] <hansi_xp> it was the only way i got it to work
[10:31] <sagar_> how can i get the opengl development files/
[10:31] <sagar_> ?
[10:31] <graig> search synaptic for them sagar.
[10:31] <adam_> nothing has it open
[10:31] <crimsun> hansi_xp: that's great. You sure can compile it if you want. We don't support self-compiled packages, thanks.
[10:32] <hansi_xp> crimsun: that's funny. mplayer being don't support compiled packages
[10:32] <adam_> synaptic...
[10:32] <crimsun> hansi_xp: sounds like a catch-22, eh?
[10:32] <PsyBort> does anyone here know where i can find a 1.3.x version of ndiswrapper?
[10:32] <graig> calvin  give totem-xine a try before you try compiling xine.
[10:32] <calvin> so whast my next step
[10:32] <hansi_xp> crimsun: i had problems with it.
[10:32] <calvin> I don't know how to compile anything
[10:33] <hansi_xp> calvin: read the help with mplayer
[10:33] <graig> it might not even help if you compiled it.
[10:33] <adam_> hmmm
[10:33] <calvin> I'm a windows operator, fish out of water here
[10:33] <crimsun> adam_: dpkg -l w32codecs|grep ^ii
[10:33] <adam_> i got it
[10:33] <adam_> crimsun, i got it bud...
[10:33] <adam_> thanks
[10:33] <crimsun> adam_: version?
[10:33] <adam_> crimsun, now i just have to figure out how to mount my drives
[10:33] <adam_> crimsun, ver of what?
[10:33] <crimsun> adam_: err, sorry.
[10:34] <hansi_xp> calvin: are you trying to install mplayer?
[10:34] <crimsun> calvin: dpkg -l w32codecs|grep ^ii
[10:34] <adam_> oh
[10:34] <calvin> yes
[10:34] <hansi_xp> calvin: did you find the readme?
[10:34] <calvin> no
[10:35] <Mars__^> Hi I have big problem. After i installed Opera, my internet connection is very slow (browsers) i cant open any website. But thunderbird and xchat works good. Maybe it is because of that there were some errors during installing Opera? Maybe you could tell me how to uninstall it? I installed it with: sh install.sh (i cant uninstall t using dpkg -P opera)
[10:35] <crimsun> calvin: what's the output from the command I gave you?
[10:35] <calvin> /home/calvin/Desktop/EMC Monkey Movies
[10:35] <calvin> whoops
[10:35] <twysted> Mars> youll have to contact Opera support, since you installed it from source
[10:36] <calvin> ii  w32codecs      20050216-0.0   win32 binary codecs
[10:36] <spiral> hi
[10:36] <Mars__^> Ok thanks
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README
[10:36] <twysted> your welcome
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: you have to download the codec too if you want to compile it yourself
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: and like 10 other development files too, using synaptic
[10:36] <hansi_xp> calvin: it's not easy, compared to win xp.
[10:37] <adam_> ubotu, tell me about mounting drives on the desktop
[10:37] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, why can't you install from one of Opera's .deb files?
[10:37] <HappyFool> adam_: ubotu's factoids are usually single words
[10:37] <HappyFool> adam_: what do you want to do?
[10:37] <MadpilotPPC> !+mount
[10:37] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[10:37] <calvin> Drimsum, do you have any help with the output text
[10:38] <Mars__^> MadpilotPPC, I had a problem cause i am noob:)
[10:38] <adam_> ubotu, tell me about windowsdrives
[10:38] <MadpilotPPC> !+opera
[10:38] <ubotu> methinks opera is a very powerful and speedy web browser with a superfluity of features while placing stress upon visual aesthetics. Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get more information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:38] <AnkhWeasel> How do you move a program from one section of the Application panel to another? (In GNOME - from Other to Games..)
[10:38] <twysted> !windowsdrives
[10:38] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[10:38] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, see the ubotu post a few lines up, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for next time
[10:39] <calvin> crimsum?
[10:39] <crimsun> calvin: looks fine to me
[10:39] <calvin> ok
[10:39] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, but I have no idea how to get rid of your current install of Opera, if you installed from source
[10:39] <crimsun> (you have to spell my nick correctly if you want it to trigger my highlight)
[10:40] <Mars__^> Funny, I hope i will uninstall it
[10:40] <adam_> why does cd's not natively read in ubuntu?
[10:40] <twysted> you mean mount adam_?
[10:41] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, you could ask on Opera's own forums, there's a very good group of people there
[10:41] <adam_> yea
[10:41] <adam_> twysted, yea
[10:41] <adam_> its weird... i try to open a cd, and it errors
[10:41] <adam_> tells me it cant read it
[10:41] <twysted> oh like that
[10:41] <twysted> i wouldnt know about that :)
[10:41] <Mars__^> O another problem, i am installing nvida drivers and when i write: sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop: but it writes that there is not command called getdit. What is proper one?
[10:42] <adam_> gedit
[10:44] <Mars__^> sudo: gedit: command not found
[10:44] <adam_> ok that was weird...
[10:44] <adam_> as long as i use my cd rom instead of my dvd burner, my audio cd plays
[10:44] <aburlet> Mars__^, do a sudo `which gedit` your file
[10:45] <Mars__^> what you mean?
[10:45] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, simpler check: type "man gedit" at a prompt, please
[10:45] <Lethargic17> i can't get my networkadapter work on ubuntu
[10:45] <Lethargic17> can some1 help me?
[10:45] <aburlet> type: sudo `which gedit` /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop
[10:46] <aburlet> Lethargic17, what kind of adapter ?
[10:46] <Lethargic17> this is the readme on the driver cd: http://users.skynet.be/info-seefeld/README
[10:47] <Lethargic17> a US Robotics network adapter
[10:47] <aburlet> ethernet adapter ?
[10:47] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:47] <linner> there has never been a time when I can into this channel and did not see less than 400 people.... it's wild
[10:47] <IceDC571> does airport extreme work on linux yet?
[10:47] <squid0> linner: yes, wow
[10:47] <Mars__^> mars@lunar:~$ man gedit
[10:47] <Mars__^> No manual entry for gedit
[10:48] <aburlet> Lethargic17, that kind of adapter usually work out of the bo
[10:48] <linner> squid0, :)
[10:48] <aburlet> box
[10:48] <Lethargic17> it doesn't :s
[10:48] <poningru> Mars__^: did you delete anything?
[10:48] <poningru> it shows up fine for me
[10:48] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, that's very odd - gedit is installed by default in Ubuntu, and so is the man page
[10:48] <aburlet> Lethargic17, is it the only adapter ?
[10:48] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:48] <aburlet> Lethargic17, how is your network setup, static ip or dhcp ?
[10:48] <Lethargic17> dhcp
[10:48] <Mars__^> I didnt delete anything, what schould i do now?
[10:49] <Lethargic17> it works on my other pc with ubuntu
[10:49] <aburlet> Lethargic17, if you do an "ifconfig -a" do you see a line with eth0 ?
[10:49] <eythian> why is postfix a required thing in the install, and not just any mail thing? (e.g. I'd like to replace it with nullmailer)
[10:49] <shinu> is there any program that can do a file integrity check and fix the file index for me?
[10:49] <poningru> Mars__^: do other pages give the sam prob?
[10:49] <shinu> i messed up some files....
[10:50] <Lethargic17> i don't see eth0
[10:50] <Lethargic17> only lo and sit0
[10:50] <MadpilotPPC> Mars__^, try a couple other default man pages?
[10:50] <aburlet> Lethargic17, I guess your adapter is a PCI adapter ?
[10:50] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:51] <linner> does anyone have a link to where I can find what will be changed with the final version of 5.10?
[10:52] <Lethargic17> can't i just use the driver on the cd like it is explained in the readme?
[10:52] <Raskall> is the login on shipit.ubuntu.com broken? Can't login even if I know I use the correct password. Tried the "Forgotten your password" too, but I am unable to login
[10:52] <aburlet> Lethargic17, you have ubuntu right ?
[10:52] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:52] <aburlet> Lethargic17, the driver should be included
[10:53] <Lethargic17> this driver isn't included
[10:53] <soxfun> hi
[10:53] <soxfun> an easy question
[10:53] <rjordan> Lethargic17, What type of NIC?
[10:53] <Lethargic17> on my other pc, the network adapter was recognised automatically
[10:53] <Plebeuz> driver forwhat?
[10:53] <Raskall> ahh.. got in now. Guess it's a delay in the reset password thing
[10:53] <soxfun> the name for the wmv codec in ubuntu? I really have tu use wmv....
[10:53] <Lethargic17> Plebeuz: network adapter
[10:54] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, just set the modprobe
[10:54] <aburlet> Lethargic17, oh yes, I read too quickly, did you try to compile the given driver ?
[10:54] <rjordan> soxfun, gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:54] <twysted> Lethargic17: do you know what kind of network adaptor it is
[10:54] <mbpillai> Lethargic : sit0 is a runelling device(virtual)  you might have installed pptd
[10:54] <Lethargic17> i have tried "sudo modprobe r8169" but it doesn't work
[10:54] <Plebeuz> so the modprobe is worng
[10:55] <Plebeuz> wrong*
[10:55] <mbpillai> Lethargic:  issue command ps ax | grep pptd
[10:55] <Plebeuz> or the kernel doent have it, then u must compile the driver
[10:55] <Lethargic17> how must i exactly use this commands?
[10:55] <twysted> gigabit network card
[10:55] <Lethargic17> yes
[10:55] <Lethargic17> i have the linux driver on cd
[10:55] <Mars__^> o maybe thats because i am using kubuntu?
[10:55] <Mars__^> :(
[10:56] <Lethargic17> but i just don't know haw to install it
[10:56] <Mars__^> o and i reasding tutorial how to install nvidia drivers, but i checkegd and i dont have /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop
[10:56] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, easy, ./configure make and make install
[10:56] <Plebeuz> after try reboot your system
[10:56] <Plebeuz> then lspci
[10:56] <Mars__^> MadpilotPPC, thanks but can you tell me what exactly you mean?
[10:56] <squid0> hi
[10:56] <Lethargic17> i don't understand it :s
[10:56] <Plebeuz> and see if ur hardware is showing in the list
[10:57] <Mars__^> And question will i open Enemyterritoru.run ?
[10:57] <squid0> does anyone have a straight-forward method/suggestion for setting up MIDI on ubuntu?
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17,
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, to instal
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, in line comand go inside the directori
[10:57] <Mars__^> ok i will restart my X maybe it will help
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, directory*
[10:57] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, then type ./configure
[10:58] <Exc> Hello all. I'm trying to install ubuntu and having some issues. Searched the forums, but couldn't find anything.
[10:58] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, aftare that type make
[10:58] <twysted> whats going on Exc
[10:58] <sobersabre> Exc, which issues are you having... or you mean you're sneezing ?
[10:58] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, after*
[10:58] <Plebeuz> Lethargic17, then make install
[10:58] <kikinovak> Hi gang. I'm a Slackware veteran and I want to give Ubuntu a try. Q1: how do I manage to install Ubuntu _without_ GRUB... as I already have several distros on several partitions?
[10:58] <sobersabre> issue, issue.
[10:58] <sobersabre> oops
[10:58] <Lethargic17> must i go to the directory where the driver is located?
[10:59] <sobersabre> pardon.. i've sneezed.
[10:59] <Exc> Well for some reason Kubuntu, Ubuntu (both i386 and AMD64) stop installing at 'Installing Pakages' 85% "Preparing for installation"
[10:59] <squid0> anyone know how to setup midi?
[10:59] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, i use slack to, just try to set the botable partition to slack then configure lilo
[10:59] <twysted> kikinovak if you do a expert install it should let you choose to install grub or not
[10:59] <Exc> I'm on an Athlon 64, 1gb of ram, msi Nforce 4 mobo.
[10:59] <sobersabre> Exc, there are 4-5 other virtual terminals you can access with Alt+F1,2,3,4,5 when you're installing.
[11:00] <sobersabre> soxfun, seee if there is a more meaningful message on which there was a failure...
[11:00] <sobersabre> hmm.
[11:00] <shinu> how do i force delete a directory no matter what?!
[11:00] <kikinovak> twysted OK I'll check that
[11:00] <sobersabre> soxfun, you have a very auto-completing nick.
[11:00] <Exc> sobersabre: OK, good plan. I'll take a look.
[11:00] <twysted> kikinovak, good luck :)
[11:00] <kikinovak> Plebeuz I wouldn't think that's a good idea.
[11:00] <shinu> i keep on getting: rm: cannot lstat `great teacher onizuka//.$ $ $ $. $': Input/output error on a directory i messed up...
[11:00] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, why?
[11:01] <D4rKHowL> hey... i'm a ubuntu newbie user... and got a problem during startup of the ubuntu program, How do I switch display modes because the defualt mode of the ubuntu installation just display a video mode overrange... HELP dudes!
[11:01] <sobersabre> Exc, if you see the problem is with reading the CDROM.. you're either have a scratched CD or old CDROM drive.
[11:01] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, i use that way :P
[11:01] <adam_> ok, how can i change my screen resolution? it wont let me go any higher than 1024x768
[11:01] <Plebeuz> kikinovak, if ur expert u can configure ur lilo well
[11:01] <sobersabre> adam_, which display do you have ?
[11:01] <D4rKHowL> hey... i'm a ubuntu newbie user... and got a problem during startup of the ubuntu program, How do I switch display modes because the defualt mode of the ubuntu installation just display a video mode overrange... HELP dudes!
[11:01] <crtr> how to check if my sound card is not working ?
[11:01] <Lethargic17> Plebeuz, the configure command doesn't work:s
[11:01] <twysted> Plebeuz, kiknovak is gone ;)
[11:01] <Lethargic17> what do i wrong?
[11:01] <Exc> AH! You're great, friend.  Agreeing didn't actually start the installation process again.
[11:04] <sobersabre> adam_, google on your monitor model, and read which horizontal and vertical syncs it can work with.
[11:04] <mrchicago> hey
[11:04] <adam_> yes, that is what i chose in installation, i just need to know how to change that
[11:04] <Mars__^> so what can i do if ther is no manula entry to gedit
[11:04] <Mars__^> ?
[11:04] <sobersabre> then go into file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set them as you've found.
[11:04] <adam_> on windows i run it at 1600x1200
[11:04] <mrchicago> is it possible to set up a site to sell linux cds
[11:04] <sobersabre> adam_, are you happy with windows ?
[11:04] <athlon> anyone know when we'll get the updated mozilla-thunderbird package ?
[11:04] <adam_> not really, thats why i am dual booting
[11:04] <Trashcan> making money off other people's free stuff
[11:04] <MadpilotPPC> mrchicago, it's already been done
[11:04] <adam_> i only use windows for games now
[11:04] <sobersabre> thenuke, ... hmm.. do as i say.
[11:04] <Trashcan> what a great plan
[11:04] <Trashcan> :(
[11:05] <MadpilotPPC> You can even buy Ubuntu CDs on EBay, which is fairly evil
[11:05] <sobersabre> Trashcan, what are u talking about ?
[11:05] <Trashcan> selling linux CDs
[11:05] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: try issuing command /etc/init.d/pptd stop
[11:05] <graig> when i look at the firestarter log,  when somethig is in the log, does that mean its blocked?  some are red, and some are black.
[11:05] <sobersabre> Trashcan, I know places in Russia where there's no fast internet.
[11:05] <Trashcan> hmm
[11:06] <Trashcan> good point
[11:06] <Mars__^> So what with my gedit
[11:06] <sobersabre> and they want linux. to download it with modem is to kill yourself. then need the CDs.
[11:06] <mrchicago> well, just a small one to make a llittle extra dough
[11:06] <ElkOS> I can't get the command key ^]  working in screen with gnome-terminal, the default ^a does work, but since that's bol in bash and emacs, I'd like to set the command char for screen to 'escape ^] x' - any ideas how to convince gnome-terminal to accept ^] ?
[11:06] <sobersabre> to get them there you need to pay to the guy that drives them.
[11:06] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: and then ifconfig -a
[11:06] <mrchicago> include like an extra cd with some cool games
[11:06] <sobersabre> Trashcan, so .. capisci ?
[11:06] <Trashcan> capisci?
[11:06] <sobersabre> "understood" ?
[11:06] <Trashcan> oh :p
[11:06] <Exc> From what I can tell its halting on language-pack-en-base because its 'untrusted' and even telling it 'Yes' to continue installation of that package doesn't help.
[11:06] <Trashcan> yeah
[11:06] <Trashcan> sure :)
[11:07] <D4rKHowL> ok... no one helps me
[11:07] <Ofe> Good morning. Could someone of you help me with a connectionspeed-problem? I have an external 56kbps voice/faxmodem so my maximum downloadspeed should be something like 5.6kb/s, but it's always 0.4-0.9kb/s, no matter where I load. Any solutions?
[11:07] <twysted> d4rkhowl
[11:07] <twysted> at the cd boot menu
[11:07] <sobersabre> adam_, so... after you know the sync rate, u need to also add a mode to your display. in xorg.conf
[11:07] <twysted> youll want to type "ubuntu vga=771"
[11:07] <twysted> that should fix that problem
[11:07] <adam_> i just want to edit it so i can use another size down
[11:07] <adam_> what is the cmd to edit the table?
[11:08] <sobersabre> it is not a table,
[11:08] <sobersabre> it is a text file.
[11:08] <adam_> xorg.conf?
[11:08] <graig> i have a question about firestarter.
[11:08] <sobersabre> you edit it with text editor.
[11:08] <sobersabre> adam_, yes.
[11:08] <adam_> is it gedit xorg.conf?
[11:09] <D4rKHowL> twisted: it didn't do any good... i do vga=771 and stil the ubuntu still didn't display properly
[11:09] <sobersabre> run editor with sudo, because only root can edit it. and, be VERY carefull. it can break your CRT, if you put bad values.
[11:09] <sobersabre> adam_, you can e.g. run:
[11:09] <sobersabre> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:09] <Trashcan> sudo gedit /usr/X11/xorg.conf
[11:09] <Trashcan> shoot... etc.
[11:09] <Trashcan> my bad
[11:09] <mrchicago> torcs and like neverputt and neverball runs slow on my laptop
[11:10] <sobersabre> Ofe, you might have 3 problems:
[11:10] <adam_> its not coming up
[11:10] <sobersabre> 1. bad cable
[11:10] <squid0> just trying one more time:
[11:10] <falcon3> what's a good kazaa alternative ?
[11:10] <sobersabre> 2. bad line
[11:10] <squid0> does anyone know about midi in ubuntu?
[11:10] <sobersabre> 3. bad service
[11:10] <D4rKHowL> twisted: my max display is just 1024*768 and i think ubuntu is starting with higher than that.... how can i lower the settings?
[11:10] <twysted> falcon, limewire
[11:10] <adam_> sobersabre, that file comes up empty
[11:10] <Trashcan> falcon: bittorrent, xdcc, limewire
[11:10] <falcon3> thx you guys
[11:11] <twysted> d4rkhowl  do you have ubuntu installed or are you trying to install it
[11:11] <squid0> no-one? do you guys not use midi at all??
[11:11] <D4rKHowL> am trying to install it
[11:11] <Mars__^> do you think i installed nvidia drivers without makink gedit?
[11:11] <graig> i have a question about firestarter, i was looking at the log, is everything in the log blocked?  why are certain things red colored?
[11:11] <Lethargic17> mbpillai, the first command doesn't work
[11:11] <sobersabre> adam_, copy-paste my message with sudo
[11:11] <falcon3> limewire isnt apt-get'able... :/
[11:11] <twysted> d4rkhowl, ok it should only start with a 800x600 it wouldnt start with anything too high, let me check something :)
[11:11] <Ofe> sobersabre: none of those. A computer with windows XP used to use the same cable and service. I'm not even sure what's the difference between line and cable. :\
[11:11] <D4rKHowL> am a previous windows user
[11:12] <sobersabre> Ofe, line is from your home to the Operator.
[11:12] <thoreauputic> graig: evrything you see is blocked and red means an attempt on a service port (eg ssh port 22 etc)
[11:12] <squid0> graig, be aware that if you're using a packaged firestarter version, it will likely run as a daemon upon startup.
[11:12] <sobersabre> and cable is from the connector in your home to the modem ( which can be broken in the wall or outside the wall )
[11:12] <thoreauputic> graig: I think anything below port 1024 would show red
[11:12] <sobersabre> Ofe, and with windows does it work better ?
[11:12] <squid0> this can be quite frustrating, as you may run into network 'issues' that are simply the firewall blocking silently
[11:12] <Lethargic17> can anyone tell me how i must install a network adapter driver?
[11:12] <Ofe> sobersabre: The windows XP-connection was working properly, max downloadspeed was that 5.6kb/s. I noticed a couple of ppl in the forums with the same problem.
[11:12] <D4rKHowL> twisted:am strying to install the 5.04 version on an AMD SEMpron 2200 with intergrated S3 video
[11:13] <adam_> sobersabre, that dont work
[11:13] <sobersabre> adam_, what "that"
[11:13] <Lethargic17> i don't understand the readme: http://users.skynet.be/info-seefeld/README
[11:13] <sobersabre> Ofe, which modem do you own ?
[11:13] <falcon3> limewire installation is an RPM... how do i use that in ubuntu ? :/
[11:13] <graig> does firestarter use iptables?
[11:13] <squid0> graig: i think so
[11:13] <graig> and does that mean that firestarter doesn't need to be running to have the firewall on?
[11:13] <mrchicago> alien i think
[11:14] <macguy> hey
[11:14] <thoreauputic> graig: yes
[11:14] <mrchicago> alien yad.rpm
[11:14] <Trashcan> falcon: alien
[11:14] <macguy> any mac users around here?
[11:14] <graig> ok, thats what i thought.
[11:14] <graig> thanks.
[11:14] <thoreauputic> graig: it starts on boot
[11:14] <adam_> sobersabre, the file comes up empty i mean completely empty
[11:14] <sobersabre> graig, there's not many firewall frontends in linux... checkpoint and iptables.
[11:14] <Ofe> sobersabre: I tried 7, 2 of them worked. Old ISA-modem worked but with this some downloadspeed problem. and now I'm usin A-link voice/fax 56000bps external modem.
[11:14] <falcon3> Trashcan: i'm a real human
[11:14] <thoreauputic> graig: see /etc/init.d/firestarter
[11:14] <Trashcan> no you aren't
[11:14] <Trashcan> now get in the basket and make my bike fly!
[11:14] <falcon3> well mostly
[11:14] <sobersabre> Ofe, there's no such chipset "a-link"
[11:14] <sobersabre> what's the chipset ?
[11:14] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: have a look at /etc/network/interfaces  and check any mapping is enabled
[11:14] <macguy> one question: If i install ubuntu on my mac will it erase my whole computer??
[11:15] <linner> thoreauputic: :)
[11:15] <linner> thoreauputic: how the hell are ya'?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> hey linner :)
[11:15] <adam_> thoreauputic, can you help me really quick?
[11:15] <sobersabre> what does it give with ATI commands ?
[11:15] <Ofe> sobersabre: wait a minute, I'll check that one again. the manufacturer is A-link.
[11:15] <adam_> how do i alter my xorg.conf to change my res?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> adam_: probably not -what's the issue :)
[11:15] <Trashcan> macguy: depends on if you have the mac partition taking up the entire disk
[11:15] <adam_> thoreauputic, want to change my screen res
[11:15] <thoreauputic> !tell adam_ about fixres
[11:15] <sobersabre> adam_, have you succeeded to see the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:15] <Lethargic17> mbpillai, access dinied :s
[11:15] <adam_> no, its empty
[11:15] <Trashcan> !tell macguy about partition
[11:16] <D4rKHowL> yeah me too... i want to change my screen res
[11:16] <macguy> no it's not taking up the entire disc
[11:16] <sobersabre> !tell sobersabre about fixres
[11:16] <Trashcan> bah.. bot doesn't know about partitioning?
[11:16] <Trashcan> macguy: you mean the entire disk is not *used*, or is the partition simply not sized to fill it?
[11:16] <macguy> i don't know
[11:16] <Ofe> sobersabre: A-link 5614RE, external. V.90 &K56Flex. Any better?
[11:17] <Trashcan> just having free space doesn't mean you can install ubuntu to it
[11:17] <D4rKHowL> ubuntu 5.04 doesn't install well on my system.... display would go out of range... and i don't know how to change screen res
[11:17] <sobersabre> Ofe, which ATI was this ?
[11:17] <macguy> i am not sure about the partition :S
[11:17] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'll just find you the link to the manufacturers site. :) a min please.
[11:17] <linner> hmm.... I'm not getting any messages this is weird.....
[11:18] <sobersabre> Ofe, which program you use to dial out ?
[11:18] <falcon3> Trashcan: did the alien thingy, now i get a directory.. what now ?
[11:18] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: access denied for which command
[11:18] <macguy> if it does erase tiger out of my mac i'll probably just install it on my junky pc :P
[11:18] <iiiears> I would like to install ut-install-GOTY.run  I think permissions/sudo is my trouble. Can anyone offer a tip?  a very short howto here http://pgshopping.com/mdkxp/?c=ttrls/utinstall
[11:18] <thoreauputic> linner: not receiving /msg ?
[11:18] <linner> thoreauputic: nope
[11:18] <Lethargic17> mbpillai /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <thoreauputic> linner: gah - use a real IRC client
[11:18] <twysted> D4rKHowL, i cannot find the answer you need, when you boot off the cd if y ou press F2, F3, F4 it should show you a option to change your resolution, i havent installed ubuntu recently so my mind is fuzzy on the cd booter
[11:18] <linner> thoreauputic: nor can i see what i've sent
[11:18] <linner> wird
[11:18] <linner> weird
[11:18] <Trashcan> i dunno falcon3, i was just pretending to know what I was talking about :)
[11:19] <Trashcan> shouldn't it have made a .deb?
[11:19] <linner> thoreauputic: i had to go back to windows on the lappy :(
[11:19] <thoreauputic> linner: oh dear :(
[11:19] <falcon3> dunno
[11:19] <linner> thoreauputic: I know
[11:19] <mbpillai> less /etc/network/interfaces
[11:19] <MadpilotPPC> linner, that might have to do with your freenode settings? msgs work fine in Opera on my usual machine...
[11:19] <D4rKHowL> what command should i input mr. twisted to change the resolution? any values aside from vga=771
[11:19] <iiiears> it stalls before it ever shows an interactive window.  any hints?
[11:20] <p00f> Ubuntu makes me feel alive, and sexy :)
[11:20] <macguy> anyone mind telling me how much linux market share is?
[11:20] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'm using the plugin in panel called "modem observer". and the link to the modem is: http://www.a-link.com/uk/5614RE.html
[11:20] <dell500> why would changing from KDE to Gnome delete a Documents folder i had containing some important stuff?
[11:20] <twysted> d4rkhowl it should tell you what to put for a basic vga support
[11:20] <falcon3> Trashcan: dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[11:20] <falcon3> dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
[11:21] <falcon3> :(
[11:21] <Trashcan> uh oh, falcon3 :)
[11:21] <twysted> dell500 can u access the files on kde? or did you remove it from the system
[11:21] <falcon3> i've outsourced him
[11:21] <Trashcan> heh
[11:21] <Trashcan> built for the intel arch
[11:21] <afd_> why is not possible to open a pdf file from a vfs/ssh connection? This is possible using fish in kde...
[11:21] <falcon3> bastards :(
[11:21] <Trashcan> you're SOL unless you can recompile it :)
[11:21] <D4rKHowL> ok... thanks
[11:21] <falcon3> SOL ?
[11:21] <Trashcan> s*** outta luck
[11:21] <dell500> twysted, i'm not sure what happened, i know i didn't delete it
[11:22] <giuseppe> hu
[11:22] <falcon3> oh
[11:22] <No1Viking> !tell me about bin2iso
[11:22] <p00f> is Cinelerra in the Ubuntu apt- repository?  I asked a question like, an hour ago, and had to go away..missed the answer.
[11:23] <AnkhWeasel> How do you move a program from one section of the Application panel to another? (In GNOME - from Other to Games..)
[11:23] <twysted> delll500 try going back into kde and see if they are still there
[11:23] <falcon3> AnkhWeasel: scroll up :)
[11:23] <AnkhWeasel> Yeah, it appears to have cut it off already.
[11:23] <dell500> twysted, i'll try that
[11:23] <dell500> i was just wondering if there was a way to retrace my steps back to that like a save point lol
[11:24] <twysted> dell500, if they are there move them into just your home directory they might be saving in a .kde folder that you would normally not see in gnome
[11:24] <squid0> hi
[11:25] <squid0> gnome-video-thumbnailer is chewing cpu usage. what could this be?
[11:25] <twysted> that makes thumbnail images for video files
[11:25] <squid0> ok, thanks.
[11:25] <twysted> so if you have a folder full of videos you can see a image from a random part of the clip :)
[11:26] <squid0> but i've not got any file system windows open, so i can't understand why it's still motoring on
[11:26] <twysted> process must be hung up on something, restart X and you should be fine
[11:26] <squid0> can't i just kill it?
[11:26] <Waerner> Hmm, does anyone know the date for the Breezy-release?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Oct 13
[11:27] <Waerner> thanks
[11:27] <squid0> i don't wanna have to restart x just cos of this
[11:27] <twysted> you can try that but it might make X go loopy
[11:27] <twysted> or rather gnome
[11:27] <squid0> what do you mean?
[11:27] <sobersabre> Ofe, so... what is the ttyS* the modem is on ?
[11:27] <Ofe> sobersabre: ttyS0
[11:27] <sobersabre> and what's the init string you're using ?
[11:27] <squid0> (loopy)
[11:27] <twysted> just give it a try squid
[11:28] <sobersabre> do you have minicom ?
[11:28] <squid0> ok
[11:28] <iiiears> thoreauputic - How is it going?    Are you using Breezy Badger?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> iiiears: nope - still comfortably on hoary :)
[11:28] <Ofe> sobersabre: I don't know what's a init string and I don't think I have minicom because I've never heard of it.
[11:28] <iiiears> Okay, Me too. - lol
[11:29] <squid0> twysted: lovely. i've got processing power again! ;)
[11:29] <twysted> squid0 , excellent!
[11:29] <squid0> thanks
[11:30] <twysted> welcome
[11:30] <Ofe> sobersabre: should I search synaptic for minicom? o.O
[11:30] <squid0> me? thanks
[11:30] <jose> hola
[11:31] <jose> soy espaol y tu
[11:31] <sobersabre> Ofe, don't bother: apt-get install minicom
[11:31] <daejavu> im downloading a file with extension ".pl" ... is that a linux executable ?
[11:31] <Venson> daejavu: that's a perl script
[11:31] <twysted> daejavu: its a perl file
[11:32] <sobersabre> daejavu, it is probably a perl program.. beware those .
[11:32] <sobersabre> they can be very nasty....
[11:32] <clast> hey, what are the new backports for breezy, since the unofficial ones are offline?
[11:32] <daejavu> well its a patch for Enemy Territory .. and it had that extension
[11:32] <daejavu> i just wanted to be sre im not downloading anything for winz
[11:32] <blenda> my apt is messed up... when i try to run apt-cache i get this error "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header \
[11:32] <blenda> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:32] <blenda> "
[11:32] <twysted> daejavu just make sure its from a trusted source
[11:33] <sobersabre> daejavu, it can be a windows perl script... perl is mostly independent...
[11:33] <blenda> it doesn't work with synaptic either
[11:33] <daejavu> how do i rrun it ?   just     sh fgl.pl ?
[11:33] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: issue the command " less /etc/network/interfaces"
[11:33] <sobersabre> daejavu, no perl fgl.pl
[11:33] <sobersabre> actually if you chmod +x it, you can simply run it via: ./fgl.pl
[11:33] <daejavu> cool ... thanks guyz !   btw anyone play EnemyTerritory ?
[11:34] <sobersabre> cool! btw, anyone pla ?
[11:34] <sobersabre> i mean play ?
[11:34] <sobersabre> :)
[11:34] <daejavu> yup .. lol
[11:34] <daejavu> and do we have a seperate channel on that ..  i got a sound problem with it :S
[11:35] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'm now downloading minicom with synaptic (apt-get install minicom gave an errormessage). I'll just install it and that's it?
[11:35] <clast> what are the new backports for breezy, since the unofficial ones are offline?
[11:35] <sobersabre> I am sure you run a pppd.
[11:35] <sobersabre> you need to look in the logs for pppd errors.
[11:36] <sobersabre> if there are such, you need to set manually: 1. connection protocol , 2. compression protocol 3. error correction protocol
[11:36] <ppz> Any Swedish guys in here ? I've been wresteling with locales and cant get my head round why my swedish chars wont work in irssi.
[11:36] <sobersabre> ppz, except the locale, you also need fonts...
[11:36] <Ofe> sobersabre: yes, I do run pppd. It's ppp0 in the options menu btw. does that matter?
[11:37] <ppz> sobersabre, ok. I'll check in to that.
[11:37] <sobersabre> Ofe, no. ppp0 is a name of the connection
[11:37] <adam_> guys, quick help again
[11:37] <blenda> ppz: i'm from sweden but i don't know much about irssi
[11:37] <adam_> enabling dma on my dvd rw drive
[11:37] <sobersabre> adam_, how's your resolution ?
[11:37] <brownie17> soo..... how do i install a .deb file?
[11:37] <adam_> i never got it straight... i edited the file, but it still wont come up
[11:37] <blenda> brownie17: "dpkg -i foo.deb"
[11:37] <adam_> no biggie
[11:37] <adam_> something i will work on later
[11:38] <adam_> theres other things i want first
[11:38] <adam_> like dvd burning
[11:38] <adam_> but
[11:38] <blenda> ppz: maybe this could be interesting http://qw.se/~hawk/charconv/
[11:38] <adam_> i cant enable dma on my dvdrw drive...
[11:38] <brownie17> blenda, what does the "-i" extension do?
[11:38] <Trashcan> -install
[11:38] <adam_> i did sudo /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:38] <adam_> and it doesnt come up
[11:38] <adam_> its weird
[11:39] <sobersabre> adam_, do it with hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[11:39] <mcphail> Hi everyone. How good is the support for PCI-X mobos / graphics cards (nVidia)?
[11:39] <adam_> kk
[11:39] <sobersabre> if it is IDE
[11:39] <sobersabre> and the reso: there are many redundant modes in xorg.conf. leave only those you need.
[11:40] <brownie17> blenda, i just installed a .deb file, how can i discover the filename of the executable? like the installed files. i want to know how to fun the program
[11:40] <adam_> sobersabre, for the flag, it says use -d
[11:40] <adam_> so the command would be what?
[11:40] <sobersabre> you can make a mode like:     SubSection "Display"
[11:40] <sobersabre>         Depth       24
[11:40] <sobersabre>         Modes       "1024x768"
[11:40] <sobersabre>     EndSubSection
[11:41] <sobersabre> adam_, do it with : hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd
[11:41] <adam_> i did
[11:41] <adam_> so did that enable it?
[11:41] <sobersabre> after run: hdparm -d /dev/dvd
[11:41] <adam_> ah
[11:41] <sobersabre> and see if yes.
[11:41] <brownie17>  can someone help me?, I just installed a .deb file, how can i discover the filename of the executable? like the installed files. i want to know how to fun the program
[11:41] <juliux> hi
[11:41] <sobersabre> bra1nf00d, dpkg -L debname
[11:42] <blenda> brownie17: try "dpkg --listfiles packagename" and "dpkg --help" for more info
[11:42] <juliux> has somebody a hp nx6110 an can tell me how good it runs with ubuntu?
[11:42] <adam_> sober, it keeps saying no
[11:42] <sobersabre> juliux, linuxlaptops can tell you about it.
[11:42] <blenda> and people, please be patient. there's no reason to ask the same question within a few minutes
[11:43] <blenda> if anybody knows they will answer you, but please give some time for people to find the answer
[11:43] <juliux> sobersabre, i know but i want to speak with somebody who use the hp ubuntu on it
[11:43] <brownie17> blenda, if i give you a pastebin of what came up, could you identify what command i should run to execute it?
[11:43] <sobersabre> juliux, is there no ubuntu feedback on your model in the site ?
[11:43] <adam_> sobersabre, still no
[11:43] <sobersabre> adam_, still no what ?
[11:43] <blenda> brownie17: sure
[11:43] <adam_> sobersabre, no dam
[11:43] <adam_> dma
[11:44] <sobersabre> adam_, what kind of DVD drive do you have ?
[11:44] <blenda> brownie17: look for a file in /usr/bin
[11:44] <adam_> its a dvdrw
[11:44] <adam_> 4x
[11:44] <sobersabre> SCSI/USB/IDE/external/internal ?
[11:44] <lhb> ?
[11:44] <adam_> sobersabre, ide
[11:44] <brownie17> blenda,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2711
[11:44] <adam_> sobersabre, internal
[11:44] <sobersabre> what is the output of hdparm -d /dev/dvd ?
[11:44] <juliux> sobersabre, yes there is one but he do not use the hp ubuntu
[11:44] <adam_> it says using-dma =0 off
[11:45] <adam_> sobersabre, it says using _dma =0 off
[11:45] <adam_> sobersabre, did it twice too
[11:45] <sobersabre> then run: hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd AS ROOOOOOTTTT!!!!
[11:46] <blenda> brownie17: what does "file /opt/MainActor/mactor" say?
[11:46] <sobersabre> understand: the regular user can run almost everything root can, but root can change some things.
[11:46] <brownie17> adam_,  type sudo before the command
[11:46] <sobersabre> brownie17, good point!
[11:46] <brownie17> blenda, /opt/MainActor/mactor: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[11:46] <adam_> sobersabre, doing it as root, it still says off
[11:46] <blenda> brownie17: that's your executable
[11:47] <sobersabre> adam_, maybe your BIOS doesn't allow DMA for CDROM. fix it.
[11:47] <brownie17> blenda, why is it in such a weird position? thankyou
[11:47] <adam_> ah
[11:47] <adam_> kk
[11:47] <adam_> brb
[11:47] <brownie17> sobersabre, maybe it is disabled because it is dangerous for his hardware, it can be so
[11:47] <blenda> brownie17: you're welcome. blame the one package maintainer :)
[11:47] <mbpillai> Lethargic17: remove pptpd by issuing the command "sudo apt-get remove pptpd" the check with the command "ifconfig -a" you can see th0 device
[11:47] <brownie17> sobersabre, that is why it is not enabled by default
[11:48] <sobersabre> brownie17, dvd is usually dma capable... don't you agree ?
[11:48] <sobersabre> it's not like an old cdrom drive.
[11:48] <brownie17> sobersabre, oh ok
[11:49] <blenda> brownie17: i seldom see packages installed in /opt nowadays, i think it's some old standard
[11:49] <brownie17> blenda, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2712
[11:49] <HappyFool> i think /opt is preferred by the LSB (i may be wrong)
[11:50] <Ofe> sobersabre: I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask something again. how do I check for errormessages of pppd? :)
[11:51] <HappyFool> Ofe: try 'plog', or look in /var/log/syslog
[11:51] <blenda> brownie17: to run a program that is not in your path you must either go to the dir and issue ./mactor or do /opt/MainActor/mactor
[11:52] <brownie17> blenda, is there a way i can make it start working by just typing mactor?
[11:54] <blenda> brownie17: add it to your path. which shell do you use?
[11:54] <talios> Does anyone know of any panarama photo tools in Ubuntu?  I've seen Hugin mentioned alot but no packages seem to be available :(
[11:54] <brownie17> blenda, just the standard gnome-terminal
[11:54] <blenda> brownie17: that's not your shell, that's your terminal emulator
[11:54] <brownie17> blenda, borne again
[11:54] <brownie17> blenda, bash
[11:55] <StarKruzr> hi guys.  I'm trying to change which version of gcc make uses.  how do I do this?
[11:55] <liable> it appears to only be #debian having the problem though..
[11:55] <StarKruzr> someone told me use export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-2.95 (for example), but that doesn't seem to do it.
[11:55] <LazyAngel> hi! does anyone know what cedega is? Does it cost money, or can it be downloaded for free?
[11:56] <brownie17> LazyAngel, free. it is an emulator for windows. alot like wine
[11:56] <StarKruzr> I think I have to create a symlink from something to something else, but I'm not sure how that works
[11:56] <deFrysk> cedega is free ?
[11:56] <Lethargic17> mbpillai: he can't find pptpd
[11:56] <afd_> brownie17, since when is cedega free?
[11:56] <deFrysk> since when ?
[11:56] <brownie17> LazyAngel, it's really a preference, but there are some programs that work with one, and not the other.
[11:56] <blenda> brownie17: okey. open ~/.bash_profile and look for something like PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" and change it to PATH=~/bin:/opt/MainActor/:"${PATH}"
[11:56] <sobersabre> Ofe, sudo less /var/log/messages
[11:56] <brownie17> afd_, it is not?
[11:56] <sobersabre> Ofe, search for pppd
[11:57] <afd_> I believe you can download the sources or such a thing, but it's not possible to get a binary from them
[11:57] <mahangu> are there any fancy gui tools i can apt-get?
[11:57] <mahangu> trying to get some friends to convert
[11:57] <brownie17> blenda, fraser@brown:~$ cd /.bash_profile
[11:57] <brownie17> bash: cd: /.bash_profile: No such file or directory
[11:57] <mahangu> wanna wow them a little :)
[11:57] <LazyAngel> i can't find where to download it from http://www.transgaming.com Only subscribe to some sort of service. But i know some of the source is based on wine
[11:57] <afd_> mahangu, synaptic
[11:57] <StarKruzr> mahangu: synaptic comes with Ubuntu
[11:57] <mahangu> like application switchers, desktop widgets
[11:57] <StarKruzr> oh
[11:58] <mahangu> :)
[11:58] <StarKruzr> hm
[11:58] <StarKruzr> that I don't know about.
[11:58] <StarKruzr> but, er, yes.  can anyone help me with my GCC question above?
[11:58] <LazyAngel> afd_: so you can download the source for free but not the binaris? Then they have hidden the source well. Do you know where i can find it?
[11:58] <brownie17> LazyAngel, well, even if cedega isn't free, wine is. it is available in the ubuntu repos, and it is probably more popular than cedega
[11:58] <blenda> brownie17: wrong path, don't forget the tilde: ~/.bash_profile
[11:58] <blenda> brownie17: and it's a file, not a directory, open it with a text editor
[11:59] <LazyAngel> brownie17: yes, but cedega has better support for games if i'm not wrong
[11:59] <brownie17> StarKruzr, you could just uninstall every other version but the one you want
[11:59] <nalioth> StarKruzr: when the bots started swarming. or didnt you notice all those joins/parts?
[11:59] <StarKruzr> I tried that, and it broke things.
[12:00] <StarKruzr> nalioth: are you answering my question from before in #ubuntu-unregistered?
[12:00] <brownie17> LazyAngel, hm... possibly, im no expert. just between you and me, legalities aren't everything, and something being illegal rather than obscure actually makes it easier to get
[12:00] <Ofe> sobersabre: another problem, one that I havent' faced before. I can't scroll down the message that command "sudo less /var/log/messages" gives. but the message continues as I make the root-window bigger. o.O
[12:00] <StarKruzr> because I did notice those.  jerks.
[12:00] <Ofe> sobersabre: nevermind, page down helps
[12:00] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: when you say that didn't work, what did you mean?
[12:00] <blenda> LazyAngel: i don't think it's free, but i think you can find it on dc or a bittorrent tracker
[12:01] <LazyAngel> brownie17: yes, i know. i can just download it from another site. But that might compromise the whole system. so i would rather use a legal one if it exist
[12:01] <StarKruzr> brownie, Happyfool: like I said, I think that leaves things broken.  I did that and I couldn't get anything to compile.  I know there is a way to do it with a symlink but I just don't know what it is.
[12:01] <nalioth> StarKruzr: yes i am
[12:01] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: what are you trying to compile?
[12:01] <StarKruzr> kernel 2.4.19.  it's for a research project.
[12:02] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: and 'make CC=gcc-2.95' doesn't work?
[12:02] <StarKruzr> I have a scheduler that I'm patching into the kernel and I am sort of learning as I go.
[12:02] <StarKruzr> no one told me about that.
[12:02] <StarKruzr> lemme try it.
[12:03] <brownie17> blenda, that did not work. i think i did it right, want a pastebin of the new file?
[12:03] <nalioth> StarKruzr: "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" or whatever didnt work? notice that you have to have the gcc version installed to be pointed to
[12:03] <Exc> I've managed to get Ubuntu installed, but it cannot start X. It would seem that it 'Can't find: PCI Mach64' at 5:0:0 or 5:0:1. This is weird, because I have a Radeon X800.
[12:03] <Exc> Might anybody have a suggestion?
[12:03] <blenda> brownie17: sure
[12:03] <StarKruzr> nalioth: right, that did not work.  and the version was installed.
[12:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Exc about fixres
[12:04] <brownie17> blenda, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2713
[12:04] <StarKruzr> also, if I am patching source into the kernel, at what stage do I do that?  after make dep but before make bzImage?
[12:04] <nalioth> StarKruzr: you are running it in a terminal, immediately preceding whatever business you want using gcc-2.95?
[12:04] <Exc> Thanks, friend. I'll take a look.
[12:04] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: before 'make dep', i would've thought
[12:05] <StarKruzr> nalioth: that's right
[12:05] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: okay
[12:05] <nalioth> StarKruzr: weird
[12:05] <blenda> brownie17: remove the ending slash, it should be "/opt/MainActor" not "/opt/MainActor/"
[12:05] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: what error did you get ? (don't paste here!)
[12:05] <blenda> brownie17: then logout and login again
[12:05] <brownie17> blenda, gdm? ok
[12:05] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: also, are you planning on using Xen or some similar means of testing the kernel?
[12:06] <lesshaste> has anyone got mount rainier support working?
[12:07] <HappyFool> what's mount rainier ?
[12:07] <pef> hello
[12:08] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: No, no Xen.  however, it just started working after putting that line into make.  w00t!
[12:08] <StarKruzr> although, Xen would be a good idea.
[12:08] <mirak> hi
[12:08] <lesshaste> HappyFool: it let's you use your cd rw as floppies
[12:08] <StarKruzr> of course I'd have to tell it to compile for that in make menuconfig I guess.
[12:08] <lesshaste> HappyFool:  provides transparency to the burning process basicallu
[12:09] <StarKruzr> uh oh
[12:09] <HappyFool> lesshaste: sorry, never heard of it (just did a google). has a weird name
[12:09] <StarKruzr> hot damn that was fast
[12:09] <afd_> "network transparency" is a joke with gnome 2.10... blah. I'm dissapointed
[12:09] <mirak> hey
[12:09] <Ofe> sobersabre: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2714 <- the message with pppd on it, latest.
[12:10] <StarKruzr> a winner is me!  ok, so where did it put the compiled kernel?  I did the compilation in my ~.
[12:10] <lesshaste> HappyFool: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/75
[12:10] <StarKruzr> shouldn't I have a file called bzImage in there somewhere?  or is it vmlinuz?
[12:10] <gee_> re
[12:10] <mirak> I am trying to migrate a linux installation to another hard drive, but I fail to install grub on it, from the current linux installation, even by cchrooting to the other system. anyone have info about how doing that ?
[12:10] <lesshaste> http://www.mt-rainier.org/
[12:11] <HappyFool> lesshaste: maybe this will help? http://www.thehaus.net/AltOS/Linux/ht-mtrainier.shtml
[12:11] <daejavu> i need to make my own customer kernel .. a link  or a how-to  for it plz !
[12:11] <gazam> hey, could somebody help me change startup programs without the sessions program in gnome?
[12:11] <HappyFool> !tell daejavu about kernelhowto
[12:11] <gazam> I cant get past gdm because of xcompmanager and need to stop it from starting through the commandline
[12:12] <[LethAL] > How do I change an environment variable throught the command line?
[12:12] <lesshaste> HappyFool: thx... http://reactivated.net/software/packetwriting/ also seems to be important
[12:12] <daejavu> HappyFool, copy that !  thanks
[12:13] <StarKruzr> anyone?  Bueller?  where did my newly compiled kernel go?  there were no kpkgs here.
[12:13] <gee_> Can anybody tell me, how to ged rid of busybox-stuff? This slows booting extremely down.
[12:13] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: it's in arch/i386, i think
[12:13] <StarKruzr> gracias
[12:14] <lesshaste> maybe I should give in and go straight for dvd-ram?
[12:14] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: otherwise try 'find -iname bzImage'
[12:14] <mirak> I am trying to migrate a linux installation to another hard drive, but I fail to install grub on it, from the current linux installation, even by cchrooting to the other system. anyone have info about how doing that ?
[12:14] <[LethAL] > !tell mirak about grub
[12:14] <[LethAL] > mirak: Read about recovering Ubuntu from Windows, that should help
[12:14] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: just so you know, looks like it's in arch/i386/boot
[12:14] <[LethAL] > -should-
[12:14] <gazam> mirak are you trying to install hoary?
[12:14] <StarKruzr> in other words, I found it :D
[12:15] <StarKruzr> now all I have to do is figure out how to use it
[12:15] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: put it in /boot and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:15] <StarKruzr> ...
[12:15] <StarKruzr> it's that simple?
[12:15] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: you may also need to 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'; i don't know if you'll also need a initrd image
[12:15] <StarKruzr> question
[12:15] <StarKruzr> what will make modules_install do exactly?
[12:16] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: i suspect trying to run ubuntu on a 2.4 kernel will break in very interesting ways ;)
[12:16] <mirak> gazam: no
[12:16] <gazam> breezy then?
[12:16] <mirak> I am not trying to recover
[12:16] <mirak> I copy an install to another drive for another computer
[12:16] <nalioth> mirak: the procedure may work for your purpose
[12:16] <StarKruzr> Happy: I don't even need to get her into X on the 2.4 kernel.  all I need is a bash prompt
[12:17] <HappyFool> mirak: how about just reinstalling, and copying data (e.g., /home directories) across?
[12:17] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: regardless, i think you will have some issues
[12:17] <mirak> HappyFool: that's to long
[12:17] <gazam> mirak, this probably wont work because grub usually installs itself into the mbr... you will have to reinstall grub I think
[12:17] <StarKruzr> hrm
[12:17] <HappyFool> mirak: an install takes what, 30 minutes?
[12:17] <StarKruzr> ... crap
[12:17] <Alex_BO> What I need to share between two Linux Boxes?Do I need SAMBA?
[12:17] <nightswim> nfs
[12:18] <mirak> HappyFool: I must download and burn the CD
[12:18] <nalioth> Alex_BO: NFS
[12:18] <HappyFool> mirak: ah
[12:18] <StarKruzr> are there any distributions that still use 2.4 by default?
[12:18] <nalioth> Alex_BO: samba is a windows crutch
[12:18] <thoreauputic> StarKruzr: slackware I think
[12:18] <Alex_BO> nalioth, i guess "man nfs"
[12:18] <StarKruzr> but it's a *good* Windows crutch, nalioth
[12:19] <nalioth> Alex_BO: there are also howtos in wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[12:19] <StarKruzr> thoreau: thanks
[12:19] <gazam> mirak... there are other ways to install grub, but it will always involve downloading and burning a cd, because the alternative is using a LiveCD to reinstall GRUB
[12:19] <Alex_BO> nalioth, tnks
[12:19] <nalioth> StarKruzr: i havent owned a windows box in years, and dont like using microsoft standards in any fashion
[12:19] <StarKruzr> but for now I guess I have to put slack on this dev one
[12:19] <thoreauputic> StarKruzr: last time I looked the default for slackware was 2.4.29
[12:20] <mirak> gazam: but can't I use my running linux as a livecd ?
[12:20] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: was ext3 not an option for 2.4.19 ?
[12:20] <StarKruzr> 2.4.31
[12:20] <mirak> gazam: I can chroot to the new system
[12:20] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: I guess it doesn't hurt to try it.
[12:21] <StarKruzr> (at least, I *hope* it doesn't hurt to try it)
[12:21] <HappyFool> heh
[12:21] <HappyFool> i wonder if xen supports 2.4 kernels
[12:21] <StarKruzr> it does
[12:21] <StarKruzr> the first XenoLinux ran on a modified 2.4
[12:21] <gazam> :/ now your confusing me... but in any case I am not an expert on GRUB installations, but I did have a GRUB problem just 2 days ago which made me look up some information about fixing  it. I cam across a thread on ubuntuforums with various ways to reinstall it so I will try to find that for you
[12:22] <brownie17> Gaim won't sign on, it gets to "sending cookie" then it just sits ther
[12:22] <StarKruzr> you might possibly have to version back Xen, but it at least worked at one time
[12:22] <HappyFool> brownie17: it's working for me
[12:22] <StarKruzr> the reason Xen is not an option is because I have exacting scheduler requirements - I'm testing and modifying a real-time scheduler
[12:23] <nct> Hi, does anyone knows if ubuntu 5.10 will have updaetd DRI snapshots included ?
[12:23] <brownie17> HappyFool, thanks
[12:23] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: ah? what application?
[12:25] <brownie17> everyone wuit...now!
[12:25] <brownie17> quit*
[12:27] <NightLord> when i try to run xvidtune it says "Please install the program before using
[12:27] <NightLord> " why?
[12:29] <BusMaster> my toshiba tecra a3 laptop running hoary does not wake up after I suspend to ram. there are no errors in /var/log/acpid. how should I start approaching the problem?
[12:31] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: we're trying to see if we can make an m,k scheduler that drops jobs intelligently with a view toward better power management
[12:31] <StarKruzr> could be a lot of applications if we can make it work right
[12:31] <StarKruzr> also, what are initrds for?
[12:32] <StarKruzr> I'm noticing here that I don't really have one so much.
[12:32] <eliphas_> hello
[12:32] <StarKruzr> or rather, I do, but it seems to be for 2.6.
[12:32] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: i'm not clear on the details; it's an initial ramdisk. i think it contains some initial drivers/setup scripts for the boot
[12:32] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: i *think* mkinitrd will make one for you
[12:32] <mahangu> any tools that i can get via synaptic / apt-get that are flashy? want to wow some windows user friends
[12:33] <nalioth> BusMaster: check bugzilla.ubuntu.com and file a bug if your problem isnt there
[12:33] <mahangu> i once saw a guy use a really fancy window switcher on debian
[12:33] <HappyFool> !tell StarKruzr about kernelhowto
[12:33] <mirak> are you sure there is LVM modules into kernel initrd ?
[12:33] <mahangu> it was gnome desktop too
[12:33] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: check out that wiki page
[12:33] <BusMaster> ok
[12:33] <mirak> anyone uses LVM with ubuntu ?
[12:34] <StarKruzr> the only ones I see in synaptic are for CDs
[12:34] <StarKruzr> and, ok
[12:34] <thoreauputic> mahangu: 3ddesk perhaps
[12:34] <mahangu> thoreauputic, thanks :)
[12:34] <mahangu> btw i installed enlightenment yesterday via synaptic
[12:34] <mahangu> and it totally screwed up my boot procedure
[12:34] <mahangu> it uninstalled some linux image files
[12:34] <mahangu> so i had to reinstall b/c i couldnt even apt get
[12:34] <mahangu> my wifi was borked
[12:35] <mahangu> in future what can i do in a case like that
[12:35] <mahangu> is there some resetting i can do somewhere?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> mahangu: you were using some 3rd party repo, right?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> mahangu: btw the package is actually called 3ddesktop
[12:38] <eliphas_> hello my computer is a i686 but when I do a uname -a I have a i3683 kernel
[12:38] <eliphas_> how can I downlaod the poper one please?
[12:38] <eliphas_> proper
[12:38] <HappyFool> install the linux-686 package
[12:38] <thoreauputic> eliphas_: apt-cache search linux-image
[12:39] <thoreauputic> eliphas_: or what HappyFool said :)
[12:39] <daejavu> im trying to run a .pl file  and heres the output   "Unrecognized character \x03 at fh2.pl line 1."
[12:39] <daejavu> what to do ?
[12:39] <thenuke> linux-image-686 should be enough I guess
[12:39] <eliphas_> ok thanks guys
[12:39] <nalioth> daejavu: your perl script is not written correctly
[12:40] <HappyFool> linux-686 will get you -restricted-modules too
[12:40] <daejavu> nalioth,  how do i get that fixed ?
[12:41] <sobersabre> guys, where can i check which laptops support suspend to RAM already ?
[12:41] <sobersabre> ( in ubuntu ) ?
[12:41] <nalioth> daejavu: learn perl and correct the syntax
[12:43] <StarKruzr> HappyFool: it laughed at me when I tried to boot, but at least it didn't trash anything
[12:44] <HappyFool> StarKruzr: it laughed? your machine is possessed? ;)
[12:44] <StarKruzr> pretty much
[12:44] <joe_alf> i run the command 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4'. the question is how do i remove it. do i have to run 'export CC='
[12:44] <StarKruzr> it told me not to quit my day job
[12:44] <HappyFool> heh
[12:44] <StarKruzr> sadly, this IS my day job ;_;
[12:44] <HappyFool> did it even get the kernel loaded, or did you get a grub error?
[12:44] <StarKruzr> joe: when you restart, that environment variable will restart itself
[12:45] <StarKruzr> no, it loaded the kernel!
[12:45] <HappyFool> oh?
[12:45] <nalioth> joe_alf: it removes itself when you close the terminal
[12:45] <StarKruzr> but it was all like "hey dumbass, you need to set a root= option because otherwise I have no freaking clue where to start loading stuff"
[12:45] <HappyFool> yeah, use the other entries in menu.lst for examples
[12:45] <bimberi> joe_alf: unset CC
[12:46] <StarKruzr> I think I need to make an initrd
[12:46] <StarKruzr> or possibly just use one of the 2.6 ones
[12:46] <HappyFool> or read 'info grub' (you may need to install grub docs)
[12:46] <joe_alf> bimberi,  thanks
[12:46] <bimberi> joe_alf: yw :)
[12:46] <mirak> anyone uses LVM with ubuntu ?
[12:46] <HappyFool> no, you just need a root=/dev/hd* in the menu.lst file, i think
[12:46] <StarKruzr> oh
[12:46] <StarKruzr> really?
[12:46] <HappyFool> um
[12:46] <StarKruzr> that would be supremely easy
[12:46] <HappyFool> maybe
[12:46] <StarKruzr> heh
[12:47] <HappyFool> yeah, i think that's right
[12:47] <StarKruzr> ok
[12:47] <HappyFool> it's a kernel option
[12:47] <StarKruzr> I know I'm supposed to be a dirty linux hippie but I need to shower and go to bed already
[12:47] <StarKruzr> night people
[12:47] <HappyFool> see about line 44 in menu.lst -- there's an example there
[12:47] <StarKruzr> HappyFool, thanks again
[12:47] <HappyFool> chrs dude. good luck ;)
[12:49] <sobersabre> mirak, what's the problem with lvm ?
[12:49] <mirak> sobersabre: it can find my /
[12:49] <zertox> does standard install of ubuntu support framebuffer?
[12:49] <StarKruzr> crap
[12:50] <mirak> sobersabre: I try some stuffs, I reboot
[12:50] <StarKruzr> I go to email my advisor and naturally the IMAP server has to choose this moment to crap the bed
[12:50] <sobersabre> mirak, do you load initrd ?
[12:50] <sobersabre> hm
[12:51] <sobersabre> Ofe, you need to make pppd more verbose. the log you've pasted contains a normal data. nothing's wrong.
[12:51] <sobersabre> Ofe, now. Have you connected with this exactly setup with windows and it simply ran OK ?
[12:51] <sobersabre> (if you lie, whatever I do, won't help :) )
[12:52] <scapor> How do I put photos on my iPod ? I can mount it, I put photos on it but my ipod still says there are no photos
[12:52] <sobersabre> scapor, is ipod able to display photos ?
[12:52] <scapor> sobersabre: yeah
[12:52] <silwo1> is there somebody else except me who can't write cds using nautilus in breezy?
[12:52] <StarKruzr> what's that command that commits data to disk?
[12:52] <scapor> sobersabre: I paid enough money for it ;)
[12:52] <StarKruzr> sync?
[12:53] <StarKruzr> that might do it, scapor
[12:53] <StarKruzr> it might be buffering the write
[12:53] <sobersabre> hm, is it able to show evrything ( all available formats ) ?
[12:53] <sobersabre> scapor, you've umounted ipod to see the photos or is it still connected ?
[12:53] <scapor> anyway .. any iPod photo/nano/whatever_that_can_show_photos owners here ?
[12:53] <scapor> sobersabre: I unmounted it .. went to the photo menuy
[12:54] <scapor> but nothing in there
[12:54] <sobersabre> hm.. so is it able to display that format ?
[12:54] <scapor> sobersabre: I tried jpg's ..
[12:54] <bimberi> StarKruzr: yep, sync flushes the cache to disk
[12:54] <scapor> sobersabre: must support it, right ?
[12:54] <NightLord> when i try to run xvidtune it says "Please install the program before using
[12:54] <sobersabre> scapor, no "must"
[12:54] <NightLord> " why?
[12:54] <StarKruzr> so maybe when scapor tries to write his pictures to the iPod, it's buffering it and not putting it in the filesystem
[12:54] <sobersabre> maybe apple want you to use only tiff pictures...
[12:55] <StarKruzr> it could be an artifact of whatever interface they use to talk to the iPod
[12:55] <sobersabre> scapor, check tha manual...
[12:55] <scapor> sobersabre: nope .. they can connect to cameras directlu
[12:55] <StarKruzr> or I could be talking out my ass, too.  crap I'm tired
[12:55] <scapor> cameras who use jpg's
[12:55] <sobersabre> is it possible you mounted ipod read-only ?
[12:56] <sobersabre> or mounted a disk-on-key in the same mount point....
[12:56] <scapor> sobersabre: nope .. I wrote the files on it
[12:56] <scapor> scapor: I could seethe files again the next mount
[12:56] <sobersabre> then you should take a little puppet of an ipod, and stick little needles into it.
[12:56] <scapor> hehe
[12:57] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[12:57] <Trackilizer> I have a Non-ubuntu question for school.
[12:57] <Trackilizer> How much would a 33tyrabyte server cost?
[12:57] <StarKruzr> Trackilizer: Just Say No
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> if i route 443 to my flatmate's windows pc would he get a virus? iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -p tcp --dport 443 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:58] <Trackilizer> What do you mean say no?
[12:58] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: it really depends on what extras you are paying for
[12:58] <Trackilizer> I mean the hardware.
[12:58] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: just the storage is easy to calculate
[12:58] <StarKruzr> nevermind, you're from Germany and were never exposed to that particular American governmental idiocy :)
[12:58] <scapor> Trackilizer: with or without windows server license ? :)
[12:58] <Trackilizer> with
[12:58] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: no I mean what extra hardware... raid, hot swapping, power supply redundancy etc.
[12:58] <sobersabre> Ofe, how did you test your connection speed ?
[12:58] <paulshendrick> does anyone know how i can unmount my ipod? i try to, but it still says do not disconnect
[12:58] <Trackilizer> Some guy bought this 33TB server and i want to know how much he paid for it.
[12:59] <HappyFool> ask him
[12:59] <lesshaste> Trackilizer: how would we know how much someone else paid for something!?! :)
[12:59] <_jason> Hey everybody.  I currently have Ubuntu and Windows Xp on a dual boot with a fat32 partition for sharing.  I'm enjoying Ubuntu and would like to shrink the XP partition down and make Ubuntu's parition larger.  What's the easiest/safest way to do this?
[12:59] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, what does it have to do with school ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[12:59] <Trackilizer> Well, what do you think something like that would cost?
[12:59] <lsuactiafner> i need a 5TB serve.
[12:59] <Trackilizer> Because that's what we have to find out.
[01:00] <HappyFool> _jason: you can try booting off the live-cd and using gparted (i think it's on the live-cd)
[01:00] <Trackilizer> How much a 33TB would cost.
[01:00] <HappyFool> Trackilizer: newegg.com
[01:00] <Trackilizer> The hardware that is.
[01:00] <HappyFool> Trackilizer: this is more than slightly off-topic
[01:00] <StarKruzr> jason: qtparted or gparted can do it, just do a defrag on the XP partition first to move data to the beginning of the disk
[01:00] <paulshendrick> anyone?
[01:00] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, like "that" ... you're not discribing the system any more...
[01:00] <sobersabre> paulshendrick, then don't disconnect...
[01:01] <Trackilizer> Erm.. all i know is that it's a 33TB server the hardware that is.
[01:01] <paulshendrick> sobersabre, erm, so how do i take the ipod into another room?
[01:01] <Goek> how do i install a rpm file?
[01:01] <Trackilizer> And we are supposed to find out how much that would cost.
[01:01] <sobersabre> bring a room to the ipod ;-)
[01:01] <Goek> i wanna install limewire
[01:01] <HappyFool> !tell Goek about alien
[01:01] <paulshendrick> so in other words - ubuntu doesn't know how to eject something?
[01:01] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, go for IBM, EMC and HP sites and search for storage solutions.
[01:01] <_jason> HappyFool, StarKruzr: Is it ok to get gparted through synaptic and use my Ubuntu install or is it preferrable to use it with the liveCD?
[01:02] <sobersabre> Trackilizer, you can google on SAN equipment.
[01:02] <nalioth> Goek: gtk-gnutella has the same functionality as limewire and is available via synaptic
[01:02] <StarKruzr> _jason: in fact you may have to do two or three defrags before it all gets shifted enough that you can start changing the partitions around.  unfortunately I don't think the parteds can move Windows data around themselves
[01:02] <boxerboy29> anyone know the name of package that gives you debian program list in applications on breezy?
[01:02] <^AnK^> !ping me
[01:02] <ubotu> ^AnK^: Are you on ritalin?
[01:02] <HappyFool> _jason: resizing mounted ("live") partitions is not a good idea
[01:02] <Trashcan> haha
[01:02] <HappyFool> _jason: hence using the live-cd is a good idea
[01:02] <_jason> StarKruzr:  how would I check that all the XP data is in fact shifted to the beginning?
[01:02] <StarKruzr> _jason: look at the map of data when you go to defrag the drive
[01:03] <_jason> HappyFool:  ok I'll burn a live cd
[01:03] <StarKruzr> it's a crappy map, but it gives you a general idea of where the bits are living
[01:03] <_jason> StarKruzr:  so that would be in gparted, ok thanks
[01:03] <StarKruzr> nonononono
[01:03] <^AnK^> ritalin?
[01:03] <HappyFool> _jason: first check that it has gparted
[01:03] <StarKruzr> that would be in XP
[01:03] <StarKruzr> defrag it in XP first
[01:03] <jakester> What is the command to list all pnp isa devices on a system?
[01:04] <HappyFool> i think gparted can kind of show where the data is (maybe i'm wrong?)
[01:04] <_jason> StarKruzr:  ok defrag in XP, then there is some way in the defrag utility to check that all the data was moved to the beginning then?
[01:04] <Trackilizer> So, what would you guys thing a 33TB server would cost?
[01:04] <nalioth> HappyFool: nope. just partitions
[01:04] <StarKruzr> _jason: unfortunately you can't tell it "move all my data to the beginning of the partition," it just sort of does it by itself, but only half-assedly
[01:04] <_jason> StarKruzr:  lol ok
[01:04] <Goek> thanks.
[01:04] <StarKruzr> this is why you have to do it repeatedly sometimes in order to get it to behave itself :)
[01:05] <globule> Hi ! All
[01:05] <Goek> i've had problems with gtk-gnutella before, but i'll give it a try
[01:05] <StarKruzr> jason: good luck!
[01:05] <_jason> StarKruzr, HappyFool: well I do have a 31GB share.  It may be safer to shrink that down and reformat the rest of it and then join it to the Ubuntu partition.  Would you agree?
[01:05] <sleon|tuX> hallo
[01:05] <sleon|tuX> i have a question
[01:05] <Trashcan> heya
[01:06] <Trashcan> ask away
[01:06] <HappyFool> _jason: 'safest' is back all personal data up first
[01:06] <sleon|tuX> can someone do for me : grep pangox /usr/lib/pkgconfig/*\.pc |grep Requires
[01:06] <_jason> HappyFool:  yep I have that done, I did that before installing Ubuntu itself ;)
[01:06] <HappyFool> _jason: also, you can maybe remount /home on a new partition, instead of resizing
[01:06] <sleon|tuX> and gives me output to pastebin?
[01:07] <Trashcan> sure thing
[01:07] <_jason> StarKruzr, HappyFool: alright thanks for the info guys
[01:07] <Trashcan> no results, sleon
[01:07] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, interesting
[01:07] <boxerboy29> shouldnt a | be after grep?
[01:08] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, do you have /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangox.pc?
[01:08] <Trashcan> no
[01:08] <Trashcan> :p
[01:08] <anatole> anyone knows a tools which is similar to spacemonger in windows? that displays the contents of a hard drive graphically so it's easy to see what uses much place
[01:09] <boxerboy29> anyone have a clue what package adds the debian program list to applications in breezy?
[01:10] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, which version of gtk do are you using?
[01:11] <Trashcan> i.....don't know :)
[01:11] <nalioth> anatole: xdiskusage or discus
[01:11] <anatole> wow thank you nalioth
[01:12] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, it is something like: dpkg -l *gtk*|grep ^ii
[01:12] <locomorto> boxerboy29: eh
[01:12] <locomorto> !tell boxerboy29 about repos
[01:12] <boxerboy29> all my repos are enabled
[01:13] <locomorto> Then what is the problem?
[01:13] <Trashcan> libgtk2.0-0                   2.8.4-0ubuntu2
[01:13] <locomorto> you can't safely use the debain repos in ubuntu
[01:13] <locomorto> and those have virtualy everything debian has
[01:13] <locomorto> Trashcan: and...
[01:14] <locomorto> Trashcan: nvm
[01:14] <bjv> nForce4, can anyone here elaborate on what this chipset can do out-of-the-box under Ubuntu?
[01:14] <Trashcan> ;)
[01:14] <locomorto> gotta read
[01:14] <Trashcan> it's ok, im tired too
[01:14] <sleon|tuX> Trashcan, thank you
[01:14] <bjv> because my old AC97 audio is kind of flaky and im looking at upgrades..
[01:14] <locomorto> bjv: if you want good audio get a Audigy ZS or somesucg
[01:14] <boxerboy29> everytime i install bitchx and alot of other programs it doesnt show up in menu sometimes it adds a debian programs list to menu so i can use said packages and it didnt this time so i asking what is the package name to add that debian list to menu list so i can access those programs
[01:14] <locomorto> somesuch*
[01:15] <locomorto> oh!
[01:15] <locomorto> hold on
[01:15] <boxerboy29> ty
[01:15] <locomorto> !tell boxerboy29 about smeg
[01:15] <boxerboy29> ok ty ill check it out
[01:16] <locomorto> You can then add your own Gnome menu entries
[01:16] <eipa> hi. can anyone check out this forum thread, and help me out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70772
[01:16] <nalioth> boxerboy29: console programs WONT show up in the menu
[01:17] <boxerboy29> that could be a good reason but even web browsers dont show up like lynx
[01:17] <bjv> locomorto: yeah something with capabilities like the Audigy2 ZS is what id want.
[01:18] <nalioth> boxerboy29: lynx is a console application
[01:18] <boxerboy29> oh i didnt know that
[01:18] <boxerboy29> ok thank you
[01:18] <locomorto> bjv: your not going to find it intergrated
[01:18] <bjv> guess im probably not going to find that in onboard though. :P
[01:18] <bjv> yeah. :(
[01:18] <arwate> where has the command mkdirhier gone? its missing after the breezy update
[01:18] <boxerboy29> so just type the program in console to run them?
[01:18] <nalioth> boxerboy29: yes
[01:18] <locomorto> hey atleast audio works great this way
[01:18] <locomorto> ie no problems with esd
[01:18] <ablyss> how come the clock applet in breezy is not transparent like in previous versions of ubuntu?
[01:18] <boxerboy29> ok thank you
[01:19] <locomorto> ablyss: it was transperant before?
[01:19] <locomorto> ablyss: O.o
[01:19] <ablyss> very much so
[01:19] <locomorto> ablyss: If you want something transparent use gdesklets
[01:19] <arwate> also, after the update, the development libraries of the libsdl packages where missing
[01:19] <locomorto> its superkaramba for gnome
[01:19] <markhxx> Is there any document/anything that would help me convince corporate types to use Ubuntu?  I was hoping I could say 'well, company X uses it' to start with.
[01:21] <thoreauputic> markhxx: look up "ubuntu" on wikipedia - if they don't get it they are brain dead
[01:21] <Fraeon> Microsoft uses Ubuntu for their workstations
[01:22] <locomorto> markhxx: download ubuntu source
[01:22] <thoreauputic> markhxx: point out the PR advantages of the meaning :)
[01:22] <locomorto> markhxx: change artwork
[01:23] <locomorto> markhxx: release under 'appropiatly corporate' name
[01:23] <markhxx> Fraeon, that's great to know. thoreauputic:I've partially done that, but it's a good idea
[01:23] <locomorto> use ubuntu repos
[01:23] <HappyFool> heh. tried to play maniac mansion with wine, and the gnome taskbars appeared on top of it (in 320x200 resolution)
[01:23] <searcher`> markhxx: that's actually a problem for a lot of the OS software, the names people give their projects
[01:23] <Fraeon> markhxx, I was obviously joking
[01:23] <markhxx> locomorto:Yeah, that was my thought too - but it seems a bit dirty :)
[01:23] <markhxx> Fraeon:Oh really? ;)
[01:23] <Fraeon> Indeed.
[01:24] <Fraeon> Though I wouldn't be surprised if they did do that
[01:24] <markhxx> They do have internal Linux guys, but I can't remember what they use. Gentoo, maybe
[01:24] <searcher`> microsoft used to run hotmail on freebsd servers
[01:24] <searcher`> but they switched to 2k AS a few years ago
[01:24] <ablyss> heard they used solaris
[01:25] <ablyss> few years ago
[01:25] <markhxx> searcher`:Yeah, whoever came up with (for example) the 'gimp' name probably held that project back enormously, IMHO. Thanks for the help guys, I might have to do a customise job.
[01:25] <sarlacc54> i just loaded ubuntu onto a PC... did i miss setting up the "root" password?
[01:25] <sarlacc54> :(
[01:25] <searcher`> i'm running ubuntu hoary, using the gimp, gaim, phoenix^firebird^firefox
[01:25] <searcher`> :-)
[01:26] <searcher`> ever say that out loud
[01:26] <searcher`> hehe
[01:26] <Trashcan> !tell sarlacc54 about sudo
[01:26] <ablyss> sarlacc54, no. ubuntu uses sudo for 99.99% of su things
[01:26] <markhxx> you use sudo sarlacc54
[01:26] <sarlacc54> as the root account?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> !tell sarlacc54 about root
[01:26] <Goek> i wanna install epiphany, but synaptic asks for a cd, that i have given a friend. What do i do?
[01:26] <markhxx> example: sudo ls --> ls runs as root
[01:26] <thoreauputic> !root
[01:26] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:26] <locomorto> Goek: open synaptic
[01:26] <locomorto> go repos
[01:26] <Trashcan> sudo -i = complete root shell
[01:26] <markhxx> Goek:edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:26] <locomorto> and disable the CD one
[01:27] <mahangu> uncomment t
[01:27] <Trashcan> if you really really must have root
[01:27] <Trashcan> sudo passwd root
[01:27] <mahangu> *it
[01:27] <Trashcan> your password, root password twice
[01:27] <ablyss> su "bob" will ask for bobs password and magically switch you into bobs account via the shell
[01:27] <Trashcan> right
[01:27] <Trashcan> su 'root' won't do anything until you set a passowrd
[01:28] <Trashcan> sudo -i or sudo -s will drop you into a shell with root privs
[01:28] <mahangu> can i have different wallpapers for each desktop?
[01:28] <luzbelito> hi guys. i had problems to surf web pages that uses flash. mozilla get blocked. any help?
[01:28] <Goek> what's repos?
[01:28] <ablyss> interesting Trashcan
[01:28] <sarlacc54> trashcan I R confused
[01:29] <mahangu> luzbelito, need to install the plugin
[01:29] <thoreauputic> !tell Goek about repos
[01:29] <mahangu> let firefox do that for you
[01:29] <Trashcan> the security model is such that nothing runs under the root account
[01:29] <mahangu> click 'install missing plugins'
[01:29] <Fraeon> Question: is beagle a performance hit?