[01:32] <user|85> What are the system requirements for Kubuntu KDE pleased?
[08:16] <user|55> hi
[08:17] <user|55> how do you install wine
[08:17] <user|55> mine isnt working
[08:18] <user|55> ?
[10:00] <drezir> Hi
[10:00] <drezir> How to install widget from zip file downloaded on store.kde.org?
 6RM
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 hello
 anybody know what to do when your system refuses to update?
 "You have no authorization to execute this operation Failed to obtain authentication"
 nvm i figured that part out
[13:25] <krauserii> guys will plasma 5.24 be available in time for 22.04 before the first freeze later this month?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:13] <petitminion>  /msg NickServ  ACCESS ADD petitminion_
[14:14] <BluesKaj> petitminion, do that on the server page
[14:15] <petitminion> okey thx sorry I new to irc
[14:32] <user|62> hi
[14:35] <user|62> connect k-u-b-u-n-tu
[14:40] <iomari891> greetings, is there any way to sort favorites in file open diaglogs? Every app's file open is completely unsorted.
[14:44] <iomari891> greetings, is there any way to sort "places" in file open diaglogs? Every app's file open is completely unsorted.
[15:32] <Guest6479> gfdg
 Anyone know about failing to update Linux image and modules in Discover?
[16:38] <user|59> How to add any fingerprint Rd device in kubuntu
[16:40] <user|59> How to add any fingerprint Rd device in kubuntu
[17:04] <sheytan> hi! Does 5.24 plasma upgrade come with fingerprint support for kubuntu aswell?
 How to add any fingerprint Rd device in kubuntu (re @join_captcha_bot: )
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 How to add any fingerprint Rd device in kubuntu
[20:31] <user|11> Please append https:// to the checksum kubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64.iso file from: https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads/
[23:18] <keithzg> Oh whoa wait Cover Flip is back as an animation option for task switching?
[23:18]  * keithzg immediately adds the Backports PPA to his primary desktop install


[00:03] <elopio> veebers: um, yes. Sure it will work.
[00:04] <elopio> we set a timeout high enough for all tests, and then use the fixture timeout to put a smaller limit to smaller tests.
[00:20] <alesage> elopio I don't like that this flight mode test is taking so long to land
[00:20] <alesage> elopio I
[00:20] <alesage> 'm afraid that I'll find several new things to fix in the next revision
[00:21] <alesage> elopio, some of this criticism could've come with the first review, no?
[00:22] <alesage> elopio these tests should be *easy* to write, it should take twenty minutes IMO
[00:32] <elopio> alesage: I haven't reviewed it because it's not in the review column
[00:36] <elopio> alesage: In case you missed my ping: if it is ready for review, you should put it in the review column.
[00:36] <alesage> elopio it's not ready for review
[00:38] <elopio> alesage: then I'm not getting your message.
[00:38] <elopio> it's taking long because there are things worth fixing?
[00:39] <elopio> I agree that it would be better if all the things to fix come in the first review. But if for some reason that doesn't happen, and a late review has a good comment in it, I think it's good to take the time to fix it.
[00:41] <elopio> if I'm not getting it, please bring it to tomorrow's stand up.
[00:41]  * elopio goes to the gym.
[04:26] <pitti> dobey: yes, dpkg-dev is really heavy; it pulls in gcc, binutils, libc6-dev, perl, and whatnot
[04:26] <pitti> elopio, dobey: hence I think just globbing for the lib that you need is so much faster
[04:33] <elopio> pitti: yeah, /usr/lib/*/oxide-qt/chromedriver
[04:33] <elopio> I actually don't know why they started using dpkg-architecture. It seems to be one of those things one person uses, and then we copy paste everywhere.
[04:34] <elopio> we'll start removing it.
[08:17] <ki7mt> Is this the right place to discuss an issue with the ISO QA Tracker ?
[08:39] <Noskcaj> ki7mt, yes
[08:47] <ki7mt> Hi Noskcaj somehow I've managed to orphan two tests in the in progress state and can't find a way to cancel them. Here's the link: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/332/builds/89337/testcases/1301/results
[08:49] <ki7mt> I submitted the pass results, but it didn't clean the original in-progress test, and added another. I probably did something wrong, but am not sure how to correct it.
[08:49] <Noskcaj> You should be fine to leave them as is
[08:49] <ki7mt> OK thanks.
[08:49] <Noskcaj> Talk to balloons when he comes online, since it's been over a year since i've put my iso-tracker admin hat on
[08:50] <ki7mt> I got a responce just now from the lubuntu-qa list, Dohhh All I needed to do is click the Pencil Icon and delete it !!
[14:20] <elopio> jibel: can we schedule the sprint delivery for tomorrow, ten minutes for now?
[14:22] <jibel> elopio, yeah, if I'm still alive. It's hard to stay on my chair right now :(
[14:23] <elopio> jibel: you can appoint somebody else to attend the meeting. You should rest, we can't live without you :)
[14:23] <jibel> elopio, the best person would be brendand but you don't want to move him back to our team.
[14:24] <elopio> jibel: no, we don't.
[14:25] <brendand> jibel, you can saw me in half
[14:25] <brendand> it's a risky procedure
[14:25] <brendand> there's a good chance of death
[14:25] <jibel> right, that's a problem with human body
[14:31] <davmor2> brendand: I know a man who has a box for cutting people in two and putting them back together again after it'll be fine ;)
[14:42] <elopio> brendand: can you please make reviews? once you eod will be harder to land things.
[14:44] <brendand> elopio, i am
[14:44] <elopio> thanks.
[14:45] <elopio> ok, I'm done.
[14:46] <elopio> brendand: which branch are you using to try the camera?
[14:46] <brendand> elopio, veebers put one up
[14:56] <elopio> fgimenez: we have some branches ready for review. Can you take a look?
[14:57] <fgimenez> elopio: sure, on it
[14:59] <elopio> fgimenez: and about the "more than one device card", I'm not sure where that one came from. Wasn't that story finished?
[15:01] <fgimenez> elopio: i'm not sure, i've seen the card still on top an unasigned
[15:01] <fgimenez> elopio: is it finished?
[15:02] <fgimenez> elopio: it was unasigned here https://canonical.leankit.com/Boards/View/109656104#workflow-view
[15:04] <elopio> fgimenez: yes, I think it is done. The last piece was fixed by brendan here: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/trunk/revision/76
[15:06] <fgimenez> elopio: ok, then the cards to pick are the todo ones from here https://canonical.leankit.com/Boards/View/112198880#workflow-view ?
[15:06] <elopio> fgimenez: yes.
[15:06] <elopio> you will see that they are linked to the other board with the parent relation.
[15:07] <fgimenez> elopio: ok thanks
[15:07] <elopio> and on the one for usb, it says that 14 out of 14 tasks were done.
[15:07] <elopio> I'll move it to donee.
[15:08] <elopio> fgimenez: how are you running the xx-test branch?
[15:08] <elopio> I'll try to reproduce your error.
[15:08] <fgimenez> elopio: i'm following the readme
[15:09] <elopio> fgimenez: the readme has three methods to run it.
[15:09] <fgimenez> elopio: the same adt-run command described for qemu
[15:10] <elopio> ack
[15:10] <fgimenez> elopio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10291843/
[15:30] <elopio> brendand: this is different from the rest of apps
[15:30] <elopio> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/trunk/view/head:/cameraapplication.cpp#L52
[15:32] <elopio> hum, but it's the same that unity does. How can unity succeed and this one fail?
[16:23] <elopio> alesage: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/notification_helper/+merge/249211
[16:23] <elopio> it's still needs fixing from you. Can you please review it again?
[16:24] <alesage> elopio, ok will do now
[16:40] <paulliu> alesage, elopio: I'm on vacation now. It is Chinese new year period. But I'll fix the branch by review comments everyday. Just don't want to block anyone.
[16:41] <elopio> paulliu: alesage approved it too. You can top-approve.
[16:41] <alesage> paulliu, enjoy your holiday--I think we're both approving now :)
[16:41] <elopio> oh, albert already did.
[16:41] <paulliu> alesage: thanks.
[16:41] <alesage> paulliu sorry for the delay, happy new year :)
[16:41] <elopio> enjoy paulliu.
[16:47] <elfy> balloons: so ... first time this cycle - who'd be the best person to help us debug 32bit failing in vbox - any idea?
[16:55] <balloons> elfy, 32 bit failing?
[16:55] <elfy> in vbox
[16:56] <elfy> at least, hardware works - 64 bit works anywhere
[16:56] <elfy> odd
[17:03] <balloons> are you saying 32bit builds of xubuntu don't work in vbox on your machine?
[17:04] <elfy> yes - and confirmed
[17:05] <elfy> funnily enough slickymasterWork told me yesterday, but we had other issues going on - waited to check today
[17:06] <slickymasterWork> told you what elfy?
[17:07] <balloons> elfy, so this is a problem in the image or xubuntu
[17:07] <balloons> or vbox?
[17:07] <slickymasterWork> hey balloons
[17:07] <balloons> hey slickymasterWork
[17:08] <elfy> balloons: I guess image - 64 bit works, ubuntu 32/lubuntu32 all work fine
[17:09] <balloons> ahh.. well then.. I'm not quite sure. If it works on real hw, then ?. I'm curious is an earlier build worked or not
[17:09] <elopio> brendand: as a workaround, we can install qttestability-autopilot while the partition is rw.
[17:09] <elopio> I'm still digging, trying to compare what unity does with what the camera does.
[17:09] <brendand> elopio, we might have to
[17:10] <elfy> balloons: assume so - not heard anything causing problems previously
[17:10] <elfy> and I would have ;)
[17:31] <balloons> elfy, so it's probably something with the image then. So I guess looking within ubuntu is a good place to start? what happens when you boot it? does it boot on your real hw?
[17:39] <elfy> balloons: yep, works fine in hardware, and if rather than hang about waiting for the choice dialogue you choose at the beginning menu - it boots to desktop
[18:50] <elfy> wxl: you got any idea how many PPC installs there actually are?
[18:50] <wxl> elfy: no
[18:51] <elfy> mind you - don't suppose anyone has much idea of how many of any there are :)
[18:51] <elfy> just seems like a lot of pain for you each and everytime
[18:51] <wxl> not usually
[18:52] <wxl> we're now lts only
[18:52] <elfy> lubuntu is LTS only? or just PPC
[18:52] <wxl> and we've trained most of the users that there ARE going to problems with video
[18:52] <wxl> just ppc
[18:52] <elfy> k
[19:45] <alesage> fgimenez, projects-team, here's a relevant branch for bluetooth https://code.launchpad.net/~ueqa-projects-team/ubuntu-sanity-tests/bluetooth-discovery/+merge/243849
[20:06] <elopio> ping ubuntu-qa: where is the pictures scope now? When I flash my phone, I only have apps, music and videos.
[20:07] <davmor2> elopio: you on vivid?
[20:07] <elopio> davmor2: yes.
[20:07] <davmor2> elopio: it's a krillin rtm scope
[20:11] <elopio> brendand: what was the add contact test missing?
[20:12] <elopio> ah, moving the helpers out of the test case.
[20:12] <brendand> elopio, some helpers, and it doesn't work when run within the suite because of a conflict with the system settings test
[20:12] <brendand> elopio, in the object cache
[20:13] <alesage> projects-team I'm out of diet pepsi >:(
[20:14] <alesage> (trying to be more expressive here)
[20:14] <veebers> alesage: lol, sorry I'm a little far away to gt you any more :-P
[20:24] <brendand> veebers, elopio - any reviews needed before i go eat my dinner?
[20:25] <elopio> brendand: no, you can go.
[20:25] <brendand> elopio, it's not quite ready so don't be shy
[20:27] <elopio> brendand: I'm not shy, I just ran out of branches :)
[20:28] <elopio> but if you want to do something, I would find the launch fixture useful ;)
[20:28] <veebers> brendand: heh, nothing from me either
[20:32] <Letozaf_> elopio, balloons dobey hi
[20:32] <elopio> hello Letozaf_.
[20:32] <dobey> hi
[20:33] <Letozaf_> elopio, dobey have you guys got new for the SDCard tests :-P
[20:33] <Letozaf_> nes
[20:33] <Letozaf_> news
[20:33] <Letozaf_> sorry :(
[20:33] <dobey> i'm not on the qa team. i was just spouting off ideas :)
[20:34] <elopio> Letozaf_: I'm not on the qa team either ;)
[20:34] <Letozaf_> dobey, well if they are good spout them out :)
[20:34] <Letozaf_> elopio, oh! ok so must I ask balloons ?
[20:34] <elopio> Letozaf_: we can't work on that yet, we have our hands full. But I'd suggest you to file a bug asking for an sdcard fake.
[20:35] <Letozaf_> elopio, ok thanks, I will
[20:38] <Letozaf_> elopio, buy the way what should I file the bug against ?
[20:43] <balloons> hey Letozaf_
[20:44] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi :)
[20:44] <Letozaf_> balloons, as elopio suggested I reported this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1406988
[20:45] <balloons> Letozaf_, I see elopio and dobey have been having fun with you :-) As elopio said, sadly there is no known solution, so any solution would have to be worked on by you. The good news is you can help others out if you solve it :-)
[20:45] <Letozaf_> Oo  :)
[20:46] <Letozaf_> elopio, dobey : naught boys :-P
[20:46] <Letozaf_> naughty
[20:47] <balloons> I would keep working the bug, pitti did leave some ideas
[20:47] <elfy> hey Letozaf_ :)
[20:47] <Letozaf_> elfy, o/
[20:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I can try
[20:53] <dobey> i was just stating that the stuff i said yesterday about the sd card, were ideas. they're not something i could work on :)
[20:54] <Letozaf_> dobey, don't worry I am also joking :P
[21:24] <veebers> elopio: where you able to get the apt caching working for you on your device?
[21:25] <elopio> veebers: haven't tried.
[21:25] <elopio> I got it working on my laptop and desktop. Next step, the phone.
[21:26] <veebers> elopio: nice, let me know how it goes, I'll probably want to do the same :-)
[21:48] <infinity> elfy: Yeah, that's the one.  I tried -qa and -testing :P
[21:48] <elfy> yea -qa would be all sorts of fun for me and my English only lol
[21:49] <infinity> If any bored testers get done with their own ISOs and are looking for ways to be nice/helpful, it looks like studio and myth could use some boot/install/reboot smoketesting to make sure they don't seem entirely broken.
[21:50] <infinity> (For the trusty point release, that is)
[21:50] <elfy> I can take studio entire's for them
[21:50] <elfy> I'll also mail their list
[21:50] <wxl> and if anyone wants to help with lubuntu i won't complain
[21:51] <wxl> since we have ye olde late rebuild :)
[21:51] <wxl> if someone wants to jump in, focus on the desktop images
[21:51] <wxl> i have people already confirming alternate will fail.. ;)
[21:54] <elfy> mmm
[21:54] <elfy> mind you I've just realised that I got no 32 bit tests of my own done ...
[21:54] <wxl> hahahah
[22:16] <veebers> elopio: Reviewed this branch, NF: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/workaround1423359-screenshot/+merge/250221
[23:38] <alesage> elopio you mentioned the "import" update being necessary--why does this happen?  I find myself blocked by it now
[23:43]  * alesage is mystified
[23:48] <veebers> alesage: what's the issue that you're seeing?
[23:49] <alesage> veebers, I'm blocked by the 'tests' dir being unimportable
[23:51] <veebers> alesage: can you tell why it's not importable? Perhaps adding -s to the adt-run so you get a shell at failure and trying to run:
[23:51] <veebers> python -c "import ubuntu_sanity_tests.tests" to see the output,
[23:52] <veebers> I suspect something like "Cannot import blah, not found"
[23:52] <alesage> veebers hmpf will try
[23:54] <veebers> alesage: we see the error "...has no module tests...' or '...cant import...' when something else is causing an import or syntax error in the module.
[23:54] <veebers> for instance recently the edges_demo was changed and renamed which broke us
[23:55] <alesage> veebers, understood; I'm seeing in a branch/device which is unchanged :(
[23:56] <veebers> alesage: right, there could be a change in the packages that we're pulling in (i.e. the edges_demo was a change in unity8-autopilot)
[23:56] <alesage> veebers, aha


[00:52] <kirkland> superm1: ping when you come around
[01:26] <dmz> anyone have any thoughts on where i set the output "decoder" type (to support hw mpg decoder in frontend)?
[01:58] <Jorophose> Uhh, this is more of a MythTV question than anything else, but there are no mythtv IRC channels, so... My cable company gave me a cablebox for digital TV, because we're affected by the analog TV shutdown as well... According to the mythtv FAQ, for digital channels with digital cable, you need the box, but it says you need an analog card; is it just that the signal is transfered as analog in the end? If not,
[01:58] <Jorophose> ATSC card, assuming that's the digital tuner?
[02:01] <hads> Jorophose: There is a mythtv channel - #mythtv-users
[02:01] <Jorophose> on Freenode NA? It's not coming up for me =/
[02:02] <Jorophose> regardless, I think I solved my own problem; the tuner card I'm looking at is analog only, so if the cablebox outputs to analog, all the better I guess...
[02:02] <hads> OK then.
[02:03] <SHADOW__X1> hello i am trying to run mysqldump but i am having an issue is it different for mybuntu
[02:03] <hads> What's the issue?
[02:03] <SHADOW__X1> error 1045
[02:04] <SHADOW__X1> access dennied
[02:04] <hads> So you're not using correct authentication credentials.
[02:04] <SHADOW__X1> which ok so i changed the -u command to --user and -p to --password=
[02:04] <SHADOW__X1> yeah well i am pulling it from the front end and its not working
[02:04] <SHADOW__X1> unless one char isnt right
[02:04] <hads> cat /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[02:05] <hads> The credentials are in there.
[02:11] <SHADOW__X1> now i get a 1044 error and i was wrong on the pass the letter was different then it appeared
[02:12] <SHADOW__X1> nvm
[02:12] <SHADOW__X1> my bad i fixed it
[02:12] <SHADOW__X1> thanks hads
[02:15] <hads> np
[02:15] <dmz> question...where does mythbuntu save it's X settings? /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't show the driver or resolution settings
[02:16] <hads> X now does magic stuff to figure that out automatically.
[02:16] <dmz> well that magic stuff isn't working :)
[02:16] <dmz> i'm running on a via evia board
[02:16] <hads> You can override it by putting things in xorg.conf
[02:16] <SHADOW__X1> hey hads where are recordings saved again
[02:16] <hads> SHADOW__X1: Whereever you setup
[02:17] <dmz> and the only video playback that works is when i use mplayer, live tv, recordings and non-mplayer recordings all cause frontend to die & it goes back to gdm
[02:17] <SHADOW__X1> by default using mythbuntu
[02:17] <hads> Not sure
[02:17] <dmz> the little preview window works in the recordings list, but whenever i choose a recording frontned dies and drops back to gdm
[02:18] <dmz> i've turned on "-v most" for the log (btw /var/log/mythtv isn't created w/frontend only so frontend logs are not created by default)
[02:19] <SHADOW__X1> hads va/lib/mythtv
[02:19] <dmz> but the last message in the frontend log is that it's XvMC is the VideoOutputXV, then it starts to read/write then borks X :(
[02:20] <dmz> mplayer works great, but i can't use that for my recordings
[02:20] <dmz> X appears to be using XvMC drivers, so this makes no sense
[02:21] <superm1> kirkland, pong
[02:22] <dmz> also i've modified the gdm config (both /etc/gdm/gdm.conf & /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf) and changed GdmXserverTimeout to be 10 instead of 30 and whenever it dies it still waits 30 seconds to autologon
[02:23] <dmz> oh well guess i can try another distro for my frontend if it doesn't work on via boards, should i try mythbuntu 7 before i give up on mythbuntu 8?
[02:27] <dmz> no thoughts?
[02:38] <dmz> ok i think it's the XvMC drivers in mythbuntu, i just retested with minimyth and it works "great"
[02:44] <dmz> ok mythbuntu does not work on via boards
[02:51] <MythbuntuGuest31> booting diskless frontend gives the following 2 errors;  PXE-T02 : Forbidden Directory, PCE-E3C: TFTP error - access violation
[02:56] <MythbuntuGuest31> any ideas,  thanks
[03:11] <MythbuntuGuest37> I've got 8.04.1 running and it records just fine.... but the playback is really bad... Xine plays the recordings just fine. What did I do wrong?
[03:12] <SHADOW__X1> hey hads how do i restore the database
[03:16] <MythbuntuGuest37> googling "restoring database mythtv" turned up
[03:16] <MythbuntuGuest37> mysqldump -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -c > mythtv_backup.sql
[03:16] <SHADOW__X1> thats backing up
[03:16] <MythbuntuGuest31> got past that by editing /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, now I see the mythbuntu boot screen the transtions to a fast blink cursor
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest37> right
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest37> there a bunch more....
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest37> here's the link:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384511
[03:19] <MythbuntuGuest31> looks like it about to start x but instead it dies on a fast blink _
[03:20] <MythbuntuGuest31> how can I debug the front end at this point
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest37> The playback in mythtv stutters horribly... so far I've tried changing in the config to a lower cpu setting and that helped some... but it played using 7.10 just fine and xine does too...
[03:29] <MythbuntuGuest31> fast blink transitioned to ; Busy box cv1.1.3 (Debien 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12)built-in shell (ash)  (initramfs)_
[03:31] <MythbuntuGuest37> I think I have to make my default player xine...
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest37> there appears to be no way to change the which player should playback the 'recordings'.  Please correct me..
[03:59] <rhpot1991> it shouldn't be
[03:59] <rhpot1991> re mysql dump
[04:36] <MythbuntuGuest37> could the proprietary ATI drivers be a problem with mythtv's internal player?
[04:42] <superm1> depends on the type of problem
[04:42] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest37, ^
[04:53] <doje> hi, where should I put a bootup script in ubuntu ?  in suse I would put things in /etc/init.d/boot.local to avoid making an rc script.
[05:04] <DurtDiggler> what would be the best possible card I could get for mythtv
[05:14] <superm1> doje, depends
[05:14] <superm1> doje, if you need something at "login"
[05:14] <superm1> eg with a gui
[05:14] <superm1> then it will be part of your profile
[05:14] <superm1> if its adding a small action /etc/rc.local is a good place to modify
[05:14] <doje> superm1: someone told me in #ubuntu - /etc/rs.local was what I was looking for.
[05:15] <superm1> rc.local is what they mean
[05:15] <doje> superm1: my typo
[05:15] <doje> thanks
[05:15] <superm1> no prob
[05:15] <superm1> DurtDiggler, that's a pretty big opinionated question
[05:15] <superm1> and depends a lot on your locale, your goals
[05:15] <superm1> and your budget
[05:15] <DurtDiggler> I know that
[05:16] <DurtDiggler> but there can still be some obvious answers
[05:16] <superm1> you are probably best summarizing the things i just mentioned in a form post
[05:16] <superm1> and having people respond to that
[05:16] <doje> superm1: is there any kind of GUI for configing LCD proc yet ?
[05:16] <superm1> doje, dont believe so
[05:17] <doje> superm1: who should I talk to if I wanted to work on such a thing ?
[05:17] <superm1> doje, well you can talk to the lcdproc authors
[05:17] <superm1> and see if one was in process already
[05:18] <doje> superm1: I guess I was thinking in terms of the mythbuntu control panel - are those panels authored by app authors ?
[05:18] <superm1> doje, ah if you'd like to add a panel to MCC, we are quite open to that
[05:18] <superm1> doje, the app is in the process of being overhauled to allow those things to be added on in separate packages
[05:18] <doje> superm1: cool. it would be nice to add some gui support for that i think
[05:18] <superm1> laga, is demonolithicizing it right now
[05:19] <superm1> and yes, that is a word starting now
[05:19] <superm1> doje, so you can either start and add the panel now, or wait a few weeks for the demonolithization to complete
[05:20] <superm1> and then there will be a good API for adding additional plugins without breaking or modifying existing things
[05:20] <doje> superm1: "demonolithization" hehe
[05:20] <doje> superm1: I think I'd be interested in learning what the new way of doing things will be
[05:22] <superm1> doje, okay well if you come back in a few weeks, we'd be glad to guide you into writing the first non monolithic plugin for it
[05:22] <doje> superm1:  Sweet!
[05:23] <doje> superm1: to boldly go...
[06:07] <kirkland> superm1: sorry, was out at dinner late tonight.  was just pinging about my patches to bug #251325 and bug #251330
[06:07] <superm1> kirkland, ah no problem.  i commented on one of those bugs, and someone else commented on the other
[06:07] <superm1> i was wondering about if those lsb functions are in < intrepid too
[06:07]  * kirkland checks his mail now
[06:08] <kirkland> superm1: no, they're not
[06:08] <superm1> kirkland, any chances of a backport?
[06:08] <kirkland> superm1: well, it's really compact
[06:08] <kirkland> superm1: i'll bring it up in our next meeting
[06:08] <superm1> kirkland, okay great.  backportability is an important thing for myth folk
[06:09] <kirkland> superm1: yeah, good point
[06:09] <superm1> kirkland, they dont seem to want to jump to ubuntu+1 crack but just want to update myth sometimes
[06:09] <kirkland> superm1: well, one option would be to just drag-n-drop the status_of_proc() function itself into the downlevel myth init scripts
[06:09] <kirkland> superm1: that's what I did on my local setup :-)
[06:09] <superm1> kirkland, yeah that's a possible solution too, albeit a bit ugly
[06:10] <kirkland> superm1: ugly, agreed.
[06:10] <superm1> especially if a real backport can be done by the lsb stuff
[06:10] <kirkland> superm1: let me talk to slangasek
[06:10] <superm1> okay sounds good
[06:10] <kirkland> superm1: or even kees might have an opinion
[06:10] <kirkland> superm1: can you take the patch for intrepid going forward?
[06:10] <kirkland> superm1: or do you want to wait on the backport question?
[06:10] <superm1> lets hold off on the backport question
[06:10] <superm1> and then we'll see the right way to go
[06:10] <kirkland> superm1: k
[06:11] <kirkland> superm1: you know, backporting might be possible now that Debian took the patches
[06:11] <superm1> as for mythtv-status, was that the maintainer, Andrew who responded?
[06:11] <kirkland> lemme go read that one now
[06:13] <kirkland> superm1: okay he has a point on the mythtv-status bit
[06:13] <kirkland> looking more closely at the script
[06:15] <superm1> yeah
[06:16] <kirkland> superm1: okay, i marked that one invalid and retracted my patch
[08:46] <SHADOW__X1> hey where is the mysql password kept
[09:02] <strikegun> Hat jemand mythbuntu in XEN laufen? Was ist besser? Als PVM oder HVM laufen zulassen? danke
[09:21] <strikegun> does anyone uses mythbuntu in XEN? wich mode is better for use? HVM or PVM for mythbuntu?
[10:52] <zwolle> hello, does anybody know if it's possible to use mythbuntu with a floppydtv card?
[12:22] <TheChad> Where do I set the recording format to TS for my DVB cards?
[13:18] <TheChad> Where do I set the recording format to TS for my DVB cards?
[14:04] <baalsgate> hi
[14:05] <baalsgate> i have had the mythtv backend  remote front end working in the past but after upgrading both now cant connect ? i have added a pin 0000
[14:05] <baalsgate> still will not connect ?
[14:06] <baalsgate> some quick help would be good if anyone knows what its doing ?
[14:06] <strikegun> did you set the pin in the mythbackend?
[14:09] <baalsgate> yes i said that i did that
[14:12] <jphillip> can the frontend ping the backend, have you checked the logs?
[14:13] <baalsgate> ok and so now its running a different x my xorg.conf isnt being used no dual monitor :(
[14:13] <baalsgate> which makes debugging easier on the lcd
[14:14] <baalsgate> yea they all ping find local network , logs dont say anything
[18:32] <dmandell> I've got an interesting/weird problem with the CPU usage of mythfrontend in Mythbuntu... it's a little bit long but I'll try to explain it as best I can.
[18:33] <dmandell> I started using Ubuntu for MythTV with Feisty, and have been upgrading regularly with each release... but it's not really a "mythbuntu" box, it's ubuntu with all of the Myth stuff added.
[18:34] <dmandell> I recently decided I wanted to increase the hard drive space on my machine and add mirroring, so I bought two 1tb drives and installed Mythbuntu using the alt install disk.  Other than the hard drives, all of the other hardware is the same.
[18:36] <dmandell> After the installation completed I installed the same version of the NVidia driver I was using on the old hard drive, copied xorg.conf from the old machine, backed up mythconverg from the old hard drive and restored it on the new hard drive.
[18:36] <dmandell> Everything works really well, but whereas before mythfrontend used between 35-50% of one CPU for HD playback, now it uses between 80 and 100.
[18:37] <dmandell> With the same xorg.conf, nvidia drivers, and playback settings in Mythtv, I'm not sure what else to do... anybody have any idea of what would cause the vastly different cpu utilization?
[18:38] <dmandell> Hardware for the machine (other than the hard drives): M2NPV-VM mb with onboard nvidia 6150, AMD x2 4600+ dual core cpu, 2gb memory.
[20:08] <tgm4883_laptop> dmandell, did you use xvmc on the previous system?
[20:40] <darthanubis> does mythzmserver start itself after install or do I have to make it a service?
[20:44] <sebrock> is screensaver after 10 minutes a feature or a bug...
[20:48] <dmandell> tgm4883:  I did not, no.
[20:48] <dmandell> tgm4883_laptop: no
[20:49] <tgm4883_laptop> dmandell, and you used MythTV .21 before?
[20:49] <tgm4883_laptop> darthanubis, IIRC mythzmserver should start itself
[20:49] <tgm4883_laptop> darthanubis, I haven't played with it all that much recently though
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> sebrock, during playback, or at the menu screen?
[20:50] <darthanubis> thx:)
[20:50] <darthanubis> Its been a year since I used it
[20:50] <darthanubis> and I don't remember having to start it tmanually
[21:07] <sebrock> tgm4883_laptop, all the time
[21:07] <sebrock> I suspended the screensaver and did xset dpms instead
[21:09] <TheBlasphemer> On an I386 server I can't seem to start the Mythbuntu Control Centre for my diskless client image, has anyone else had a problem like that ?
[21:11] <tgm4883_laptop> TheBlasphemer, error messages?
[21:11] <TheBlasphemer> Oh, wait, I think I've traced down the problem :/
[21:12] <TheBlasphemer> GTK can't seem to open the display on a system-wide VNC :/
[21:12] <TheBlasphemer> on a user tightvnc server it seems fine
[21:13] <TheBlasphemer> Odd, but manageable
[21:13] <TheBlasphemer> Might be related to everything being oddly colored on the system-wide VNC :/
[22:22] <dmandell> tgm4883_laptop: Yes, I was using .21 before.
[22:22] <dmandell> All of the myth packages are what's included in hardy.
[22:24] <TheBlasphemer> Hmmm, for sharing the movies and music dirs, what would be a better option, samba or nfs ?
[22:43] <hads> NFS
[22:53] <TheChad> Where do I set the recording format to TS for my DVB cards?
[22:54] <darthanubis> this shit is nasty
[22:54] <darthanubis> oops
[22:54] <darthanubis> wrong window
[22:54] <darthanubis> lol
[22:54] <darthanubis> so sorry
[22:54]  * darthanubis hides
[22:58] <WcktKlwn> I'm guessing your eating seafood
[23:03] <darthanubis> lol
[23:04] <darthanubis> no, I love seafood
[23:04] <darthanubis> but I just upgraded my desktop
[23:04] <darthanubis> desktop/mythtvboxen
[23:04] <darthanubis> os[Linux 2.6.24-20-generic x86_64] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 75.7% free] disk[Total: 445.1GB, 92.5% free] video[Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[23:04] <darthanubis> Best box I ever had, and I love it
[23:54] <SHADOW__X> i am installing the 2.6.26 kernel on mythbuntu does anyone know where the iirc option is for my mce remote to work i have done this before and last time my remote didnt work
[23:55] <TheBlasphemer> Eeeek, how do I install the nVidia restricted drivers from a terminal? It refuses to produce a reasonable image with the standard drivers here :/
[23:55] <SHADOW__X> what card do you have
[23:56] <SHADOW__X> TheBlasphemer: what card do you have


 bing bong.... Happy Christmas
[00:05] <mparillo> Merry Universal Christmas
[01:18]  * yofel wishes everyone a merry Christmas before vanishing again
 Thanks yofel :)
[02:11] <mparillo> Merry Christmas, yofel and tsimonq2.
 Happy Easter everyone!
[11:04] <clem_l> merry xmas everyone ;)
[13:26] <BluesKaj> A very Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it :-)
[15:23] <wxl> ahoneybun: did you ever test that konversation for yakkety in my ppa?
[16:20] <ahoneybun> wxl: no sorry got busy
[16:20] <ahoneybun> still need testing?
[16:20] <wxl> ahoneybun: yes please
[16:20] <ahoneybun> what ppa?
[16:20] <wxl> ppa:wxl/kubuntu
[16:21] <ahoneybun> what is it fixing?
[16:22] <wxl> that crash that we fixed in zesty
[16:22] <wxl> it's in the changelog but lemme dig up the bug number
[16:22] <ahoneybun> mm never seen a crash in YY
[16:23] <wxl> might have been circumstantial. valorie's original report was on yakkety
[16:23] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/1635911
[16:24] <ahoneybun> brb then wxl
[16:24] <wxl> thx ahoneybun
[16:24] <wxl> i'll go back to trying to hack passwords XD
 Oh?
 Lol
[16:26] <wxl> yeah it's not malicious, don't worry
[16:26] <wxl> but fun
[16:27] <wxl> linux passwd fwiw
[16:28] <wxl> i made a little script that grabs the shadow of a given user, pulls the salt out of it and feeds it to mkpasswd -m sha-512 along with a given password
[16:28] <wxl> brb
[16:31] <ahoneybun> wxl: Version 1.6-branch #4910
[16:31] <ahoneybun> that's my version number in Konverstion
[16:31] <ahoneybun> 1.6.2 in apt-cache policy though
[21:20] <clivejo> ok found that volume OSD bug!
[21:22] <[Relic]> was it jimney cricket?
[21:23] <KurousagiMK2> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374038
[21:26] <clivejo> do I need another logon for that?
 https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=127425
 this is still an issue in Neon
 so I guess it affects us as well


[09:51] <unleaded> So I see there is a "Xubuntu" and "Xfce" session. My question is, what is the difference? At a glance, the only thing I see change are the fonts...
[10:00] <brainwash> unleaded: dpkg -L xubuntu-default-settings
[10:00] <brainwash> this command will show you the files which are used to customize xubuntu
[10:01] <brainwash> many Xfce related settings are applied on the first login though
[10:01] <brainwash> copied over to ~/
[10:02] <unleaded> Ah, I see.
[10:02] <unleaded> I quite like the defaults Xubuntu ships with, they've done a great job.
[10:02] <brainwash> that is the goal :)
[10:03] <brainwash> and if you have any suggestions, feel free to open a report
[10:03] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings
[10:07] <unleaded> Awesome!
[10:08] <unleaded> I have one question regarding XFCE though. Today, I made mention of a minor annoyance over at #xfce. My problem was that I can't set the default "middle-click" behaviour on window titlebars.
[10:09] <unleaded> By default it is set to just lower the window. I would like to configure it to make it minimize the window instead. Unfortunately, it appears that it is hardcoded into XFCE.
[10:10] <unleaded> Now my question is, would it be best to file a bug-report at buzilla.xfce.org?
[10:12] <unleaded> Or take it a step further and submit a pull-request? :P I think Xfce settings is built using GTK and C...
[10:22] <brainwash> indeed
[10:23] <brainwash> best way to contribute is via providing patches
[10:47] <furycd001> HI. Yesterday I installed virtualbox via synaptic & now I see this >> http://i.imgur.com/158lMyv.png << for all folder permissions. Is this normal ??
[15:46] <moldovak> hello
[15:46] <diogenes_> noroc :)
[15:47] <diogenes_> i mean salut monseur.
[15:47] <moldovak> what is the default password for the first boot ?
[15:48] <diogenes_> afaik no password.
[15:48] <moldovak> it ask for a password
[15:49] <diogenes_> when?
[15:49] <moldovak> login module at start up
[15:49] <moldovak> when i put nothing it says incorrect password please try again
[15:50] <diogenes_> try xubuntu
[15:50] <moldovak> same problem
[15:50] <moldovak> :)
[15:50] <diogenes_> ubuntu linux root << try
[15:51] <moldovak> same
[15:51] <diogenes_> ok then: ctrl+alt+f1 and type user: xubuntu and enter
[15:51] <diogenes_> no password
[15:51] <diogenes_> then
[15:51] <diogenes_> startx
[15:52] <moldovak> login incorrect
[15:52] <moldovak> oooh that s maybe because it s ubuntu 64bits and not xubuntu
[15:52] <moldovak> DOOOHHH !!
[15:53] <diogenes_> lol
[15:53] <moldovak> lol
[15:53] <moldovak> afk
[15:53] <moldovak> ty
[15:53] <diogenes_> formidable magnifique
[16:10] <moldovak> magnifique
[16:11] <moldovak> it appear that it s xubuntu image but the system havent prompted for password at the install
[16:39] <candidat> lol
[17:31] <candidat> diogenes_, how do you costumise your desktop with widgets
[17:31] <candidat> ?
[17:33] <diogenes_> candidat, have a look and these: https://www.linux.org/threads/widget-xfce.16179/
[17:33] <diogenes_> https://itsfoss.com/customize-xfce/
[18:00] <candidat> diogenes_, cool !
[18:02] <candidat> ty
[18:03] <diogenes_> yw
[19:44] <caldarella> Hi guys, I would like upgrade for the first time my xubuntu 18.10 into 19.04, I would like to know which method is safe for upgrade: update-manager GUI or apt commands from the terminal?
[19:49] <Nazarov> I upgraded from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS with the update manager
[19:50] <pleia2> the GUI
[19:51] <pleia2> I've used do-release-upgrade on the command line in the past, but I don't think we test that (it's tested for server installs)
[19:51] <Nazarov> using the GUI is safe.
[19:57] <caldarella> as for the GUI procedure, the steps to do are: 1) check with synaptic if there are updates and upgrades, 2) do I run the update-manager --check-dist-upgrades command and follow the step by step procedure?


[00:00] <CRXLPY> AHA
[00:00] <CRXLPY> I was trying to login as systemroot  not dbroot
[00:01] <CRXLPY> no passwd was the answer
[00:02] <CRXLPY> I guess I should fix that
[00:05] <hads> tgm4883_laptop: Can too, I've never done it. mysqldump mythconverg recorded etc etc
[00:11] <CRXLPY> ok I have a backup saved on another system  whoopee
[00:11] <CRXLPY> now I am ready to do the swap?
[00:16] <tgm4883_laptop> yea you shhould be able to swap now
[00:16] <tgm4883_laptop> you have things backed up in case stuff goes wonky
[00:19] <CRXLPY> it is down, now to check the grill and pull the case
[00:40] <CRXLPY> wellllll  after all that, I may be putting it on hold. the swap I have is not a guaranteed good set
[00:40] <CRXLPY> grrrr, always nice to get news at the last sec
[01:08] <judith_> I stream recorded video over the network but a 1 hour recording shows as having only 39 minutes of play time! Why the discrepancy?
[01:45] <Guest85495> I have Mythbuntu 8.04 installed but my video play back is very poor.  Even dvd's don't play well.  Video is very choppy. Oh and I'm new to this.
[01:46] <Guest85495> Any recommendations on hot improve video play would be much appreciated.
[01:52] <Guest85495> My system isn't too poor 2.2ghz dual processor and 3gb of RAM..
[02:24] <superm1> Guest85495, make sure that you have the proprietary drivers for your video card enabled
[02:24] <superm1> if they are available
[02:25] <superm1> open up mcc and pick the drivers tab
[02:25] <superm1> !mcc | Guest85495
[02:25] <Zinn> Guest85495: Mythbuntu Control Centre, one of the biggest advantages of Mythbuntu.  You can configure a lot of normally complex tasks from one location.  You can find it in your System menu after installing Mythbuntu.
[02:30] <Guest85495> Here in lies the problem... Funny you would drive right to it.  I currently am using onboard video hardware on a Biostar P4M900-M7 and I have not had much luck obtaining linux based drivers for the video hardware.
[02:31] <Guest85495> Is my only option to buy an additional video card?  I would think the system would play a dvd even with fairly poor video hardware... is that not true?
[02:35] <superm1> what's the onboard video?
[02:35] <superm1> depending on the onboard video, it's possible that hardware video overlays are not exposed
[02:35] <superm1> with the current open source drivers
[02:39] <Coded1> my audio is about 3-4 seconds fast when I watch tv through my bt878 based grabber (SD source) the cpu is ~ 25-35% any one have a similar problem?
[02:45] <Guest85495> My onboard video is VIA Chrome9 HC IGP at least according to the biostar website.
[02:45] <Guest85495> There is not option for this in the Graphics card driver list that I can see...
[02:58] <superm1> Guest85495, yeah there is, there is a chrome driver
[02:58] <superm1> xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[02:58] <superm1> is what you are probably looking for
[02:59] <Guest85495> I tried the openchrome, but I got a very disappointing picture... Many lines and apparent interlace issues.
[03:00] <Guest85495> Kind of like what is shown here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=710955
[03:11] <Guest85495> Has any one had any luck with the drivers loacted here:
[03:11] <Guest85495> http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action
[03:21] <CRXLPY> Coded1 you are using a cable to feed audio from your tuner to your line in on the soundcard right?
[03:38] <Guest85495> Would someone recommend a PCI Express video card?  Fully compatible and support by mythbuntu?  Something perhaps you are currently using and is working well for you?
[03:40] <Guest85495> my issues appear to be completely related to the integrated video card on my biostar mother board... After installing the Chrome9 beta drivers the video renders better but has a unique green flash to it. very annoying...
[04:58] <dee|nx> Hi all
[05:00] <dee|nx> I want to install mythbuntu on a system that has both pvr0350 and nvidia 8600 GT.  Is this a good combination?  I want to be able to play movies from DVD and hardrive primarily.  Should both cards be left inside? What would be the best way to set this up
[05:03] <dee|nx> !help
[05:03] <Zinn> Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[05:04] <dee|nx> !ping
[05:04] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about ping
[05:05] <dee|nx> no one seems to be talking here
[08:43] <cann> dee|nx : check http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ should be a lot of info on the subject
[08:45] <cann> but to answer your question, if you only want to play dvds  and media files i personally would only use the nvidia card
[09:15] <elmargol> Hi can someone comment on the status of mythnettv? Is this package usable? Or is it more or less experimental?
[09:15] <elmargol> I did not find much informations on the net
[10:55] <oobe> tgm4883_laptop, did you end up working out how to make a cronjob with that script
[10:56] <oobe> it should work if you remote the manual option in the last line
[13:03] <mrmowgli> can someone point me to the right place to configure the channel info?  mythbuntu 8.04 - I keep running into problems with mythfilldatabase I think
[13:03] <mrmowgli> er
[13:03] <mrmowgli> maybe
[13:05] <mrmowgli> I run the mythbackend-setup, go to the channel section, then run the channel scanner using the datadirect datasource (yes I have a username and password) and then it runs the mythfilldatabase - when that's done it never goes back to the setup and no channels are added
[13:06] <mrmowgli> the manual is very slim in this area
[13:13] <mrmowgli> I'm running it on a US-Cable connection with one feed set up for a cable source using datadirect
[13:26] <mrmowgli> how about log files to get more info about what's happening?  At this point I want to just check to see if the capture  card is working properly
[14:04] <squish102> i am running xfce4 with mythbuntu, and i would like to add some commands to the command line of the auto start of mythfrontend
[14:05] <squish102> i need a --geometry 1921x1080, otherwise my ati card does not display!
[14:05] <squish102> but i dont know how to add that to the startup
[14:19] <elmargol> Hi I have installed mythbuntu 8.10. I'm using a nvidia card and display it using the tv-out. mythtv runns on 800x600 now. How can I change that?
[14:21] <elmargol> my TV Supports PAL B/G/I SECAM B/G. SECAM L, PAL D/K SECAM D/K PAL 525/60
[14:24] <CRXLPY> codeweavers is giving away ser#'s for their crossover package today only!
[14:24] <CRXLPY> linux and mactel versions
[14:27] <fuji> so, I signed up with schedules direct, but my username and password into the back end setup under video sources, ran mythfilldatabase, but still am not getting any listings.  Any ideas where to start looking for what is going wrong here?
[14:29] <jphillip> CRXLPY if you search and google and view the cache there will be download links to unlocked versions on their site
[14:29] <CRXLPY> yes, they just put some up due to demand
[14:29] <CRXLPY> down.codeweavers.com
[14:30] <CRXLPY> but they will continue issuing reg codes soon
[14:30] <CRXLPY> well off to wurc
[15:07] <fuji> yeah, it's giving me a 401 Unauthorized error when run mythfilldatabase whenever I try to connect to schedulesdirect.  I can log in on their website just fine, and have the same username/password put into the backend setup video source as I do when I log in to the website
[15:14] <fuji> ah, it was my schedulesdirect setup, its working now.
[15:32] <tgm4883_laptop> oobe, no, I actually just fixed my script
[15:32] <tgm4883_laptop> I think
[15:32] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm still not sure it's running right
[15:33] <elmargol> Where can I set the default display mode for livetv?
[15:33] <elmargol> the autodetect does not seem to work. I need to make it interlaced
[17:08] <MythbuntuGuest31> hey .  doing an off-net install is there a way to bypass the mysql test in step 11 of the advanced install?
[17:09] <MythbuntuGuest31> cant go forward without success there
[17:09] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest31, I dont' think so
[17:10] <MythbuntuGuest31> dang.
[17:11] <MythbuntuGuest31> that would be nice to have the option to bypass the test
[17:11] <tgm4883_laptop> This is a frontend only install?
[17:26] <fuji> I setup the menu system to dealw ith the TV oversync via the settings -> appearance -> gui size, and that part works great, but when watching TV the On Screen Display doesn't even come close to fitting, I don't see anything in the OSD settings section to change the size, am I missing something?
[18:32] <MythbuntuGuest01> tgm4883_laptop - yes its a frontend install only
[18:33] <tgm4883_laptop> yea I suppose I can see your point.  Why are you doing it with no net available though?
[18:33] <klarkc> hi!
[18:33] <tgm4883_laptop> !hi | klarkc
[18:34] <Zinn> klarkc: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[18:34] <klarkc> anyone can help-me? I dont have sound in Mythtv in ubuntu
[18:34] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, can
[18:34] <MythbuntuGuest01> doing it @ work
[18:35] <klarkc> this is log: http://pastebin.com/m7c03accb
[18:35] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest01, ah
[18:35] <klarkc> and this is my card: http://pastebin.com/m19a2da2a
[18:35] <klarkc> out of mythtv sound works normally, in mythtv have error
[18:36] <klarkc> this is configure of mythtv: http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturadatelazp1.png
[18:37] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest01, well I would suggest making that a feature request then, as of right now I don't think that it is possible from a mythbuntu install
[18:37] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest01, you could though do a ubuntu install, add the mythtv packages then go home and configure it
[18:37] <MythbuntuGuest01> k,  always get tied up with a ton of stuff when i get home...would be nice to be able to just edit the mysql.txt afterwards
[18:38] <MythbuntuGuest01> true...
[18:38] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, during development, I don't think this scenario was thought about
[18:40] <MythbuntuGuest01> thanks anyway
[19:22] <squish102> I am running xfce4 with mythbuntu, and i would like to add some commands to the command line of the auto start of mythfrontend
[19:22] <squish102> I need a --geometry 1921x1080, otherwise my ati card does not display! where do I do that?
[20:09] <oobe> klarkc, have you check setup / utilities / setup / general
[20:09] <oobe> for you alsa settings
[20:10] <oobe> try changing your audio output device to alsa:default
[20:10] <klarkc> oobe: I using this alsa config file: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound but I dont understandig how to configure this in mythtv
[20:10] <oobe> in mythfrontend go to  setup / utilities / setup / general
[20:10] <oobe> and change the sound to alsa:default
[20:11] <klarkc> and mixer?
[20:11] <oobe> alsa:default again
[20:11] <oobe> if that doesnt work which i suspect it will work
[20:11] <oobe> then you can try other devices
[20:14] <klarkc> oobe: 2008-10-28 17:12:23.776 Error opening audio device (alsa:default)
[20:14] <klarkc> eno: Arquivo ou diretÃ³rio inexistente (2)
[20:14] <klarkc> in english "File not found"
[20:15] <oobe> hmm
[20:16] <oobe> you may need to select other devices
[20:16] <oobe> and make the mixer the same
[20:16] <oobe> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound#I_get_no_sound_from_MythTV_when_watching_TV_but_MythMusic_and_command-line_test_all_work_fine.__What_is_the_problem.3F
[20:17] <oobe> that page has that question covered
[20:18] <oobe> and try changing passthrough output device to default
[20:20] <oobe> do you have onboard sound or are you using a usb sound card?
[20:21] <oobe> its just the output of aplay is a bit confusing
[20:23] <klarkc> O have one card, in usb
[20:23] <klarkc> I*
[20:23] <klarkc> This is a usb card, onboard usb
[20:25] <oobe> oh ok
[20:28] <oobe> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.1
[21:13] <Seeker`> my OSD flickers
[21:13] <Seeker`> but only once the video starts
[21:13] <Seeker`> going to live TV, the OSD is stable, until the channel tunes, then it starts flickering
[21:50] <toorima> what new features will there be in 8.10 compared with 8.04?
[23:06] <tgm4883_laptop> REQUEST FOR AMD64 TESTERS
[23:06] <tgm4883_laptop> need to be able to test the iso for alternate amd64


[01:50] <nomnex> unp
[23:52] <jonsg> Hi folks - anyone here experienced with Netbook Remix + vncserver?


[21:52] <pombreda> Hiya, I wonder if this bug that I reported for the kernel should be reported instead as an X bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1480615