[08:14] <magnetron> sp00n: maybe you have network problems.
[08:14] <sp00n> magnetron, My VirtualBox running XP can connect to the windows share through my network, and I can ping the machine I am trying to connect to.  It was working fine until today.  I don't know what broke it.
[08:16] <sp00n> I am going to reinstall all the samba packages.  I don't know if I was getting that "version information unavailable" error before I was having connection rpbolems.
[08:16] <magnetron> sp00n: do NOT reinstall samba
[08:16] <webcamwonder> !trash
[08:16] <magnetron> sp00n: you  know, it's impossible for me to know what's wrong without more details from you.
[08:17] <anonymouss> I don't quite get it, why is the stable rep in 8.04 unstable? What happened to "just works"?
[08:17] <sp00n> magnetron, understood.  What other details can I give you?
[08:17] <ariqs> where is a good online place to shop for laptops for a good price?
[08:17] <anonymouss> I've had this crash 10 times in the past 3 days
[08:17] <sp00n> ariqs, best buy ;)
[08:17] <ariqs> seriously, best buy?
[08:18] <anonymouss> ariqs: do you plan on using this laptop?
[08:18] <sp00n> j/k
[08:18] <anonymouss> ariqs: if not, www.geeks.com
[08:18] <ariqs> I never go for those rebate schemes. They're far too annoying
[08:18] <magnetron> sp00n: a printout of your smb.conf. the specific mount command and error. paste it to a pastebin, like paste.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <sp00n> although, walmart actually had a good deal on a AMD64 (vista >:|) laptop
[08:19] <danielm_mc> hey does anyone know how to change the F1 mapping in gnome ?
[08:19] <sp00n> ariqs, compaq AMD64 dual core, with some kinda decent video card, for like $600
[08:19] <ariqs> anonymouss: why would I want a laptop I didn't plan on using?
[08:19] <anonymouss> ariqs: server
[08:19] <ariqs> server laptop? how peculiar
[08:20] <anonymouss> i'm running my ubuntu-server site on a 500mhz powerbook
[08:20] <dr_Willis> a portable server. :)
[08:20] <ariqs> sp00n: I don't want an AMD cpu right now. Core2 duos are better
[08:20] <Flannel> ariqs: Think of it as a low power server, with built in UPS
[08:20] <anonymouss> g4 256 mb ram
[08:20] <ariqs> heh
[08:20] <anonymouss> trouble is, if power goes, so does your modem
[08:20] <anonymouss> ariqs: i was half joking
[08:20] <sp00n> ariqs, are they?  I haven't been keeping up too much.
[08:21] <anonymouss> ariqs: i just wouldn't trust a cheap refurb laptop
[08:21] <sp00n> magnetron, making pastebin
[08:21] <danielm_mc> airqs: that'll change next month
[08:21] <danielm_mc> amd vs intel is a moving target
[08:21] <danielm_mc> blah
[08:21] <ariqs> i'm not looking for refurb, and I already know of a site that has good deals on laptops. the problem is, they're newegg and newegg tried to bribe me so I refuse to use their website
[08:21] <sp00n> ariqs, tried to bribe you?
[08:22] <ariqs> intel has been ahead for a long while
[08:22] <Flannel> Hey guys, mind taking this topic to #ubuntu-offtopic?  thanks
[08:22] <ariqs> sp00n: yes, I gave them a negative review on resellerratings, and they offered me like $80 to remove it
[08:22] <aLeSD> why man malloc gives me an unexistent man page ?
[08:23] <anonymouss> is it considered discourteous in IRC to send a message directly to someone, to not flood the channel?
[08:23] <Flannel> anonymouss: Usually you use pastebin
[08:24] <ariqs> depends on the user, anonymouss. I say don't worry about it and let the person complain if it bugs mhem
[08:24] <anonymouss> ok
[08:24] <sp00n> magnetron, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23469/   The samba conf file is not changed from the default it puts in, cuz it worked for me without needing to change it.  The error message I got is ontop
[08:24] <anonymouss> i installed a pidgin plugin that automatically dumps man pages into IM/IRC
[08:24] <sp00n> ariqs, I would've accepted and written a review about it!
[08:25] <diggs> any brainstorm admins in here?
[08:25] <anonymouss> puts a whole new angle to rtfm
[08:28] <Killeroid> anonymouss: what plugin is this?linky please
[08:29] <anonymouss> Killeroid: I assume you are on ubuntu? (q is am i right)
[08:29] <Killeroid> anonymouss: yes, i am on ubuntu
[08:30] <anonymouss> Killeroid: sudo apt-get install pidgin-plugin-pack
[08:30] <ariqs> what is a tcpview like program for linux?
[08:30] <fraroco> How can I know it what kind of memory ram has my machine ?
[08:30] <ompaul> NOTE I am about to remove a lot of bans there will be some scrolling!
[08:30] <anonymouss> Killeroid: the plugin is called /exec
[08:30] <ompaul> this will make the channel unusable for a moment
[08:30] <ariqs> ok, ompaul
[08:30] <magnetron> sp00n: man.... this error is severe. some of your libraries seems to be damaged. did you install any new repositories lately? or have any power outages?
[08:30] <afallenhope> Hey.. I'm having an issue with my webcam and adobe flash player 9.
[08:30] <anonymouss> Killeroid: it runs a command and gives you standard out
[08:31] <ompaul> Finished - cheers
[08:31] <anonymouss> Killeroid: and if you do /exec -o command, it dumps into current session
[08:31] <Killeroid> anonymouss: i never noticed the exec plugin, thanks for the tip
[08:31] <sp00n> magnetron, seriously? there was a couple time it froze and I had to hard shut down.  I've been installing new packages for the last week
[08:32] <fraroco> how can I get the hard info of my machine?
[08:32] <anonymouss> Killeroid: useful for checking dmesg or whatever without switching windows/terminals
[08:32] <magnetron> sp00n: yes, seriously
[08:33] <anonymouss> Killeroid: although, I don't think it is available for finch
[08:33] <anonymouss> which is a bummer
[08:33] <sp00n> magnetron, how can I fix damaged libraries?  Can I reinstall/rebuild them?  Is it the "no version information" that tells you this?
[08:34] <Killeroid> anonymouss: thanks again, this plugin has just become my favorite pidgin plugin of all time
[08:34] <Tweaker> So, how would I go about dual booting with PCLinuxOS
[08:35] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  install the other linux to different partitions, pick ONE os to controll grub. and edit the grub menu configs adding the other OS to it.
[08:36] <Tweaker> Alright cool, how would I do that? I wanna keep Ubuntu as the main, but run PClinux as a side OS. Or even at the same time if  I can.
[08:36] <magnetron> sp00n: the "no version" tells us that the some of the library files are damaged. i assume that some of your other apps will show similar behaviour. "reinstalling" the libraries is not a good solution, as it would not fix all the damaged files. what you /should/ is that you should run a fsck "file system check" on your partition and see if it can fix it.
[08:36] <bennyf11> Hi, how do i get ubuntu 8.04 to work with a bcm4311 rev 02 WITHOUT ndiswrapper??
[08:37] <user_> Tweaker: running at the same second?
[08:37] <sp00n> magnetron, thanks, I will try that.  I have not noticed any erratic behavior with any other applications.
[08:37] <Rat409> bennyf11: i couldn't w/o ndiswrapper same bcm rev 2
[08:38] <Tweaker> Whoops, I ment Running Ubuntu and PCLinux at the same time. I've heard of others running Windows and Linux Simultaneously
[08:38] <bennyf11> rat409: so ndiswrapper is the only way to go??
[08:38] <Rat409> ftm
[08:38] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  You proberly should learn/read up on grub. befor doing the install of pclinux..  set up part of the hd as unallocated.  boot pclinux, let its installer install to the drives.. backup the pclinux grub menu.lst soemwhere you can find it.. and then compare the 2 from ubuntu and pclinux.  You will most likely have to do a bit of cut/pasteing from oneto the other to get both os's booting properly
[08:39] <Tweaker> Oh damn, alright. I guess I can do that. Thanks for the info.
[08:39] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  normally i install the other os;s first. then ubuntu last.  that way the other os's dont make it a pain to boot to ubuntu
[08:39] <Rat409> pclos may use lilo as default not sure tho
[08:40] <Rat409> but it should install to root-partition whether grub/lilo
[08:40] <Rat409> iirc
[08:45] <fraroco> HELLO how to check what kind of ram my machine has
[08:48] <LSD|Ninja> fraroco: dmidecode or lshw will probably do the trick
[08:49] <Sa[i]nT> I'm trying to install windows into virtualbox, any idea why it would freeze on the installing devices part?
[08:49] <sp00n> magnetron, I should unmount file system before running fsck?  So since this is my booted partition I will have to run from ivedisc or somethign?
[08:50] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, which windows?
[08:50] <magnetron> sp00n: yes
[08:50] <newuser_> hello, is there any software similar to itunes for ubuntu, but that can place in order all of my songs? I have a folder with tons of them, and I do not want to spend days organizing music. Any suggestions?
[08:50] <Sa[i]nT> sp00n, Windows XP SP2.
[08:50] <sp00n> magnetron, if that doesn't work, is there anything else I could try / topics to research?
[08:51] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, I just did exactly that.  I would suggest giving it longer than you think it would need.
[08:51] <Sa[i]nT> sp00n, I've given it a while, did it take a long time for you?
[08:52] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, Yes it did.  I installed 98SE and XPSP2 in Qemu and both of them ran very slowly; I installed 98SE in VirtualBox and it ran very slowly.  XPSP2 runs perfectly in VirtualBox for me.
[08:53] <macrobad> newuser_: Have you tried rhythmbox or banshee?
[08:53] <sp00n> magnetron, Do you think (the causes of) those error messages are what's causing my Samba issues?
[08:53] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, how long has it been stalled on that screen?
[08:53] <mkquist> newuser_: rythmbox maybe
[08:54] <Sa[i]nT> sp00n, I'd say 20 minutes.
[08:55] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, I would say give it 5 or 10 more minutes and if no progress, reboot your VM and reinstall Windows
[08:56] <Gin> can you listen to an internet radio through banshee?
[08:56] <magnetron> sp00n: file system corruption is serious business. the problems you see now are just the tip of an ice berg. yes, the hard disk corruption has damaged your libs, and samba is one of the apps that is using these libs. you should run a fsck ASAP.
[08:56] <LMJ> hello the chan
[08:59] <eth01> magnetron: how can you possibly suggest the such? you can't.
[09:00] <sp00n> magnetic, from http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=786136 : The cause according to  http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=480361 appears to be a library mismatch between the system used to create the executable program and the system you are running the program on.
[09:00] <eth01> it could be something else.
[09:00] <sp00n> oops wrong person
[09:00] <dstrbdfrk1> does evolution mail work with hotmail ?
[09:00] <kontagious> hey is there a way i can resize my ubuntu partitian to put windows on my hard drive.. i've booted gparted from a live cd and when i go press apply it gives me an error with a bunch of boxes i cant read
[09:00] <macrobad> Gin: sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee_(music_player)
[09:00] <LSD|Ninja> dstrbdfrk1: not without some kind of proxy between it and hotmail I'd imagine
[09:01] <dstrbdfrk1> whats that mean ..... im new at this
[09:01] <zeroC> what is better for a notebook with a turion processor? the amd64 installer or the i386?
[09:01] <eth01> amd64
[09:01] <fraroco> LSD|Ninja, yes It does ... thanks
[09:01] <user_> dstrbdfrk1: you might join /evolution and check the FAQ in their channel topic
[09:02] <sp00n> eth01, are you referring to the suggestion given to me?
[09:02] <dstrbdfrk1> ok
[09:02] <eth01> sp00n: indeed.
[09:02] <dstrbdfrk1> thanx
[09:02] <zeroC> eth01: cool, thanks, there are no restrictions or sth. like that?
[09:02] <dstrbdfrk1> one more question where is everyone getting the list of chat channels?
[09:02] <philsf> dstrbdfrk1: are you aware that hotmail only works for paid support?
[09:03] <LSD|Ninja> philsf: so does Yahoo mail but there's still YPOPS! ;)
[09:03] <eth01> zeroC: just install it ;)
[09:03] <zeroC> ;)
[09:04] <sp00n> eth01, I do not think my disk is corrupted, although I don't know enough to say running fsck won't fix the problem
[09:04] <philsf> LSD|Ninja: oh?
[09:04]  * philsf googles
[09:04] <dstrbdfrk1> ?paid support   what do you mean i dont pay for my addy
[09:04] <eth01> zeroC: :)
[09:04] <zeroC> eth01: ok, i still ask, because in the past i had severeal problems with the flashplayer...
[09:04] <LSD|Ninja> I've never bothered looking into what kinds of POP/SMTP proxies exist for Hotmail though since I just use Outlook on Windows to access it
[09:04] <zeroC> but i give it a try!
[09:04] <macrobad> dstrbdfrk1: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/ :)
[09:04] <eth01> zeroC: you'll be fine.
[09:04] <kontagious> is anyone here good with partitions and gparted
[09:05] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  why not just ask the real question. :)
[09:05] <aXXe> dstrbdfrk1 if you know the pop and smtp info try it and see.
[09:05] <kontagious> i did and no one replied
[09:05] <kontagious> hey is there a way i can resize my ubuntu partitian to put windows on my hard drive.. i've booted gparted from a live cd and when i go press apply it gives me an error with a bunch of boxes i cant read
[09:05] <kontagious> :S
[09:05] <dstrbdfrk1> lol i dont even know what POP stands for
[09:06] <user_> dstrbdfrk1: wikipedia..
[09:06] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  gparted can resize the ubuntu partitions. but the uuid's may change. now as to the problems you are having - no idea why cant you 'read' the errors?
[09:06] <danielm_mc> -- question about itunes -- sry don't know who to direct this to, but is there anything out there that actually allows linux to interface with an ipod or an iphone?  stock
[09:06] <kontagious> the font isnt there
[09:06] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  ive often had to do gparted resizing in steps. do one thing.. reboot machine.. do next stuff. and so forth.
[09:06] <kontagious> its just a bunch of error boxes
[09:06] <aXXe> POP is the info for your receiving email, smtp is the info used to send.
[09:06] <macrobad> kontagious: nobody replied, because how we can read your errors, if you yourself cannot?
[09:06] <dr_Willis> You may want to try some other live cd that has gparted in that case.
[09:07] <kontagious> well i was hoping for a common problem
[09:07] <mastrgamr> test
[09:07] <macrobad> kontagious: try starting gparted from a terminal
[09:07] <mastrgamr> anyone on?
[09:07] <mastrgamr> oh nvm
[09:07] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  you areusing the Ubuntu Live cd?
[09:07] <zeroC> mastrgamr: sure
[09:07] <zeroC> ;)
[09:07] <mastrgamr> lol
[09:07] <kontagious> macrobad: i have but i cant resize it because its in use
[09:07] <kontagious> dr_Willis: im using the gparted live cd
[09:08] <nano_> Is PulseAudio a sound server, or just a sound mixer....i would think the technically correct term would be "mixer" because PulseAudio doesn't work with hardware at all, it simply deals with ALSA or OSS...
[09:08] <dr_Willis> nano_,  i though it went   'hardware -> alsa -> pulse audio -> end user apps'
[09:08] <nano_> Also, if you think about it, PulseAudio replaces dmix (an integral component of ALSA)..therefore it is incorrect to call PulseAudio a server, instead it should be called a mixer
[09:09] <macrobad> kontagious: Hmm.. I mean, start terminal, type 'sudo gparted' and try to repeat your actions that lead to errors. Gparted should start up in its own window, and probably print error messages in the terminal.
[09:09] <dr_Willis> Just another of the Yummy Cake we call Ubuntu!
[09:09] <danielm_mc> blegh, no one answered on interfacing with a iphone/ipod
[09:10] <danielm_mc> anyone ever hooked an ipod up to a linux box?
[09:10] <mastrgamr> i need help installing nVidia drivers (problem is i cant) can somebody help
[09:10] <nano_> dr_Willis, you are right, and if PulseAudio wasn't there it would be hardware --> alsa (or OSS) --> dmix (part of alsa) --> end user application
[09:10] <kontagious> macrobad: sorry i meant to say i select my dev/sda and i cant resize it.. i figured because it was in use
[09:10] <magnetron> danielm_mc: yes.
[09:11] <Lukipela> So.. what would be the reason my install will only recognize 3/4 of my screen?  have an old pentium 3 laptop.
[09:11] <kontagious> i could resize it when i booted the live cd but couldnt apply the changed
[09:11] <kontagious> changes*
[09:11] <Lukipela> i have a big black border :(
[09:11] <sp00n> eth01, do you know what else could cause the "no version information available" error or how to fix it?
[09:11] <kontagious> i didnt see this before in the terminal: Unable to open /dev/scd0 - unrecognised disk label.
[09:11] <mastrgamr> i need help installing nVidia drivers.....
[09:11] <Jorj> Hi all
[09:11] <zeroC> mastrgamr: what errors do you get?
[09:12] <Jorj> i have a question about user permissions
[09:12] <Jorj> can some1 help me ?
[09:12] <zeroC> mastrgamr: normaly there is an installoer, or?
[09:12] <mastrgamr> installer???
[09:12] <zeroC> Jorj: what questions?
[09:12] <Lukipela> my question has stumped the room! muahaha
[09:12] <sp00n> magnetron, I have other applications that also give this error and they run fine, and I'm fairly certain samba gave this error when it worked OK.  I don't think it's the root of the samba issue.
[09:12] <Jorj> i have two users on my system
[09:12] <Jorj> and i am a root kind of user
[09:12] <mastrgamr> sorry im totally new to linux
[09:13] <zeroC> mastrgamr: ah ok... =)
[09:13] <Jorj> i want to give the other user permission to use aptitude and install sotware
[09:13] <Jorj> how can i do that ?
[09:13] <macrobad> kontagious: First of all, /dev/scd0 is usually a CD or DVD drive. It's quite understandable why you cannot resize it. Are you sure that is your hard drive partition?
[09:13] <mastrgamr> when i type sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new i get an error
[09:14] <kontagious> macrobad: that was just the error.. i guess i can ignore it.. i am trying to resize /dev/sda1/ which is ext3
[09:14] <zeroC> which one?
[09:14] <mastrgamr> (Reading database ... 118957 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:14] <mastrgamr> Removing nvidia-glx ...
[09:14] <mastrgamr> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[09:14] <mastrgamr> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove):
[09:14] <mastrgamr>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:14] <FloodBot1> mastrgamr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:14] <mastrgamr> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:14] <Jorj> which one what ?
[09:14] <zeroC> Jorj: not you
[09:14] <magnetron> sp00n: if you are 100% that this error doesn't affect samba, then you need to provide me with the error message that applies to your situtation. you still haven't given me the mount command and error message you get.
[09:14] <Jorj> oops :)
[09:14] <nano_> dr_Willis, when i run "pulseaudio --check" i get no output, but when i run "pactl stat" .. i am told of the running pulseaudio server..whats the difference?
[09:15] <zeroC> :)
[09:15] <macrobad> kontagious: Ah, ok. So, why cannot you apply changes? Is the button greyed out or are there any errors?
[09:15] <mastrgamr> whats flood?
[09:15] <zeroC> mastrgamr: install libGL
[09:15] <mastrgamr> lol sorry hehe
[09:15] <danielm_mc> magnetron :  sweet!!!  what did you use to get an ipod working in linux?
[09:15] <mastrgamr> where can i get libGL?
[09:15] <dr_Willis> nano_,  everything i know about pulseaudio is .. very little. :)
[09:15] <dr_Willis> !pulseaudio
[09:15] <kontagious> macrobad: when i boot the live cd i can make changes but when i try to apply the changes i get an unknown error.. when i run it in ubuntu i cant even select resize
[09:15] <magnetron> danielm_mc: you asked if anyone had done it.
[09:16] <magnetron> !ipod | danielm_mc
[09:16] <zeroC> mastrgamr: apt-cache search libgl
[09:16] <danielm_mc> hellzyeah!  sweet thanks guys
[09:16] <sp00n> magnetic, sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/media /mnt/mountpoint/ After running this, the terminal hangs for a minute or two, then I get:  mount error 110 = Connection timed out
[09:16] <sp00n> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[09:16] <FD_F> i cant hear my mic from skype , I checked in alsamixer it seems to be ok any ideas ?  , thanks for the help
[09:16] <nano_> dr_Willis, i understand
[09:17] <mastrgamr> i put apt-cache search libgl and got a huge mess of words
[09:18] <sp00n> magnetron,  sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/media /mnt/mountpoint/ After running this, the terminal hangs for a minute or two, then I get:  mount error 110 = Connection timed out Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[09:18] <macrobad> kontagious: No, you cannot resize your root partition from a running system. However, it should be possible to resize it seamlessly from a live cd. I recon gparted was giving a windows with two buttons if any errors occured, and those buttons were "Save report" and "Exit". Do you observe it?
[09:18] <Lukipela> Ok, so i will attempt this again..  After installing Ubuntu my screen has large black borders around it.  When I go to update my drivers it says my system is not using any proprietary drivers, what am i doing wrong?
[09:18] <user_> !skype | FD_F
[09:18] <sp00n> magnetic, sry, Message was to someone else.  keep not hitting tab the right # of times.
[09:18] <zeroC> hmm...
[09:18] <dr_Willis> mastrgamr,  i normally pipe searches through grep also... apt-get search XXXXX | grep SOMEOtherWord
[09:18] <kontagious> macrobad: uh i did see that and i could save the .htm file but to be honest with no gui im not too handy in reading it
[09:19] <mastrgamr> well i dont know what i did by using search
[09:20] <mastrgamr> if it makes any difference i have the nvidia hardware available to be enabled on the hardware manager... i just cant enable it because i get an error
[09:21] <zeroC> which error
[09:21] <macrobad> kontagious: That's precisely the reason people are using Ubuntu Live CD for resizing partitions. There is a proper GUI, and it works well. Anyway, you should try to save that report and read it... well, perhaps back from Ubuntu. Otherwise, you may try to use a CLI web broser, e.g. links2, lynx, w3m or something like that.
[09:21] <mastrgamr> Writing extended state information... Done
[09:21] <mastrgamr> (Reading database ... 118910 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:21] <mastrgamr> Removing nvidia-glx ...
[09:21] <mastrgamr> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[09:21] <mastrgamr> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove):
[09:21] <FloodBot1> mastrgamr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:21] <mastrgamr>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:21] <kontagious> macrobad: if i download the latest version of the ubuntu live cd it has gparted? wow that is so much easier why didn't i stumble upon that on google :S
[09:22] <magnetron> sp00n: i'm pretty sure that if you fix that "library version" error, then this other error will go away too.
[09:22] <raboof> hi! when I hibernate my machine, i have to unmount my external usb drive, and because of that close any applications that have files open on it
[09:22] <mastrgamr> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[09:23] <raboof> is there any way I can hibernate leaving the applications using files on the usb disk open?
[09:23] <sp00n> magnetron, I just fixed my problem.  I am extremely sorry to have wasted your time.  The IP address I was using was off by one number.  I still have no idea why I am getting that other strange error but apparently it's unrelated. Several other apps do output the same error but appear to function fine.
[09:23] <Lukipela> After a fresh install my system hangs at a black screen, this is 2nd install..
[09:23] <Jorj> can anyone help me with permissions problem ?
[09:23] <macrobad> kontagious: Well, at least there is one on my Ubuntu 8.04 DVD! :) Anyway, if you don't feel like downloading that much you may also try to use a cd from www.sysresccd.org. It's less then 200MB.
[09:23] <user_> raboof: i would say no
[09:24] <sp00n> magnetron, The sad part is I have been trying to fix this for many hours
[09:24] <berent> It's really a shame that eclipse 3.4 doesnt work on ubuntu
[09:24] <berent> hardy
[09:24] <kontagious> i think i might invest in a 8.04 dvd with all the fixings.. i used a cd-rw that i erased.. and since this version is the first to support my drivers from install i think i will keep it
[09:24] <raboof> user_: if i understand correctly, the Coda file system lets me do something similar with network disks - can't believe it's not possible locally then :)
[09:25] <mastrgamr> Guys this is what i get as an error from trying to install the nvidia driver... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23478/
[09:25] <macrobad> mastrgamr: Looks like your library dependencies got corrupted. Try running 'sudo depmod -a' to check and fix them.
[09:26] <kontagious> macrobad: well i have a feeling it will work and if not it will at least i will have a good error message.. worst case scenario i will format and reinstall both os's
[09:26] <kontagious> macrobad: thanks for your help :D
[09:26] <kontagious> macrobad:  hopefully i don't have to come see you again
[09:26] <macrobad> kontagious: Np. Have a nice day!
[09:26] <kontagious> :P
[09:26] <macrobad> :)
[09:27] <raihanhasnain> hi, I need some help regarding network installation. Can anyone help me?
[09:27] <berent> It's really a shame that eclipse 3.4 doesnt work on ubuntu hardy
[09:27] <berent> !paste
[09:27] <mastrgamr> nothing happens when i put 'sudo depmod -a'
[09:27] <mastrgamr> something supposed to happen?
[09:27] <user_> raboof: coda uses a local cache, ext2 or ext3 is not designed for that, also its not designed as a "network file system"
[09:28] <danielm_mc> bah, no iphone on linux
[09:28] <danielm_mc> crappy
[09:28] <macrobad> mastrgamr: Well, not obligatory. There might be an error in the package as well, if everything is OK with your libraries.
[09:28] <raboof> user_: i don't mind dropping ext2 or ext3 for something alternative
[09:28] <user_> danielm_mc: crappy iphone i would say ;-)
[09:28] <mastrgamr> how can i fix that?
[09:28] <dr_Willis> danielm_mc,  demand a refund.
[09:29] <danielm_mc> pfshayeahexactly
[09:29] <danielm_mc> i'm going to att right now
[09:29] <berent> It's really a shame that eclipse 3.4 doesnt work on ubuntu hardy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23479/
[09:29] <raboof> user_: i wonder if i could do something like 'flush local cache, disconnect from local coda server, shutdown local coda server, hibernate, start local coda server, reconnect and continue'
[09:30] <raboof> coda's just an example, there might be systems much better suited to the task - that's why I'm asking here :)
[09:30] <macrobad> mastrgamr: wtf? /usr/lib32.. ?? I've never seen such a folder on linux, and it sounds sooo windowish, just like system32...
[09:30] <nadalizadeh> Any one knows where can i download an older kernel package (i.e 2.6.17-generic) ?
[09:30] <mastrgamr> lol........... it is windows, i used Wubi
[09:30] <nadalizadeh> archive.ubuntu.com deletes the older ones ....
[09:30] <berent> nadalizadeh: kernel.org
[09:31] <user_> raboof: sounds possible to me, its not the primary coda usage goal, but nice for your purpose. you might get more info in a coda channel or #debian (tec savy channel)
[09:31] <nadalizadeh> no, not the source
[09:31] <nadalizadeh> berent: I want the official package
[09:32] <raboof> user_: k, thanks for the encouragement!
[09:32] <macrobad> mastrgamr: hahaha! I don't have any experience with it, but you may try to find the file libGL.so.1 somewhere else, e.g. in /usr/lib/ and copy it there. Do you have /usr/lib?
[09:33] <mastrgamr> yea i do
[09:33] <timob> how do I mount the / as read only? .... I get / in use when I try mount -o remount -o ro / in runlevel 1
[09:33] <kontagious> macrobad: where did you get your dvd from.. i can only find the cd-rom one
[09:34] <pan0983> i have amd64 laptop running on 64bit ubuntu, how would i install firefox 32bit?
[09:34] <thijs> thijs452
[09:34] <aXXe> pan0983 have you tried to install the 32bit?
[09:35] <mastrgamr> I have a usr/lib folder
[09:36] <mastrgamr> and a libGL.so.1 file
[09:36] <macrobad> kontagious: It's a trick! Try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/
[09:38] <kontagious> macrobad: :) thanks again
[09:38] <macrobad> mastrgamr: So, copy it to the folder where it is expected to be by the package. A side question: why do you need to install nvidia drivers with Ubuntu? Since you're working in windows anyway, and it has its own drivers, that should be unnecessary!
[09:38] <macrobad> kontagious: you're welcome!
[09:38] <kontagious> macrobad: just to confirm.. it has gparted right
[09:39] <donda> can any one suggest me a software for accelerating the download speed
[09:39] <LSD|Ninja> donda: change mirrors
[09:39] <macrobad> kontagious: if you wish, I can boot it meanwhile on a spare machine and check.
[09:39] <mastrgamr> wubi uses its own files, it doesnt borrow from windows
[09:40] <areels> i have installed turkish keyboard there is only turkish keyb in the list but my keyboard is still english why is that
[09:40] <donda> LSD|Ninja:which mirrors
[09:40] <kontagious> macrobad: could you :)
[09:40] <LSD|Ninja> donda: the mirrors for whatever it is you're downloading
[09:40] <donda> LSD|Ninja: aren't any software available
[09:41] <berent> areels: English politics.
[09:41] <solrize> what's the package for the gcc library docs?
[09:41] <SliMM_> hello
[09:41] <macrobad> kontagious: someone next room must have not returned it to me... be back in 10 min. :)
[09:41] <kontagious> ok :D
[09:41] <SliMM_> how can i find information about the hardware in my computer?
[09:41] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: dmidecode or lshw
[09:42] <orphean> solrize: not sure what you mean by 'library' the docs for gcc live in gcc-<version>-doc packages. ie gcc-4.2-doc
[09:42] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: there was some application in gutsy, is it gone?
[09:42] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: yeah. It sucked anyway so it's one thing I'm not terribly bothered to see go
[09:43] <karabash> Hello
[09:43] <karabash> Anjuta doesnot work with Hardy Heron
[09:43] <Thrym> hi all
[09:43] <orphean> karabash: what does it do?
[09:43] <karabash> does not build
[09:43] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: i have some small driver problems also
[09:43] <karabash> dunno why
[09:43] <pan0983> wicd hardy freezes on connect anyone know y?
[09:43] <macrobad> mastrgamr: yes, sure, but it runs on top of windows anyway, and must use windows to get access to a videocard. I believe.
[09:44] <solrize> orphean i installed that but the docs aren't there
[09:44] <solrize> i.e. "man putchar"
[09:44] <SliMM_> the "switch wifi on/off" button only works for switching it off, if I accidentally switch it off, i have to restart my computer
[09:45] <orphean> solrize: which docs are you looking for though? you meantioned something about a library? do you mean glibc?
[09:45] <solrize> yeah, glibc
[09:45] <solrize> ok
[09:45] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: can I, at least, fully disable it?
[09:45] <solrize> i want the man page for putchar
[09:45] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: or make it work properly
[09:45] <orphean> solrize: glibc-doc
[09:45] <solrize> installing
[09:46] <solrize> nope, not there
[09:46] <solrize> it was someplace pretty obscure
[09:46] <solrize> i've been through this before
[09:46] <solrize> it's develdocs or something
[09:46] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: no idea, only wifi hardware I've really messed with under ubuntu has been desktop PCI stuff (so no switch)
[09:46] <areels> how can i fix a desktop shortcut to smb folder_
[09:46] <solrize> but i'm having trouble finding it
[09:46] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: by switch i mean "button"
[09:46] <solrize> install glibc-doc installed 8mb of who knows what
[09:46] <areels> l'ke this smb://pc003/tools/
[09:46] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: thanks, i'll try the forums
[09:46] <solrize> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-September/020149.html   aha  manpages-dev
[09:47] <orphean> solrize: man pages i assume :) you can get rid of it.  looks like the only package with 'devel docs' apart of it is gnome-devel-docs
[09:47] <mastrgamr> I have another problem.. how can i change my screen resolution???
[09:47] <solrize> yeah that worked!
[09:47] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: yeah, I'm familiar with them on laptops but I haven't really messed around too much with Ubuntu on lappies
[09:47] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: after i install hwinfo and check the details
[09:47] <solrize> manpages-dev
[09:47] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: works great for me
[09:47] <orphean> solrize: nice!
[09:47] <mastrgamr> my screen respulution is 800x600 and i want it to my screen's 1280x800
[09:47] <areels> how can i fix a shortcut to a network mount_
[09:47] <mastrgamr> resolution*
[09:47] <areels> ?
[09:48] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: besides, it's unexpensive :P
[09:48] <LSD|Ninja> areels: enable the screen and graphics control panel in the menus and try that
[09:48] <SliMM_> inexpensive*
[09:48] <solrize> is there any hope of a base installation that includes all this stuff?  this is just about the most frustrating aspect of ubuntu, all the missing stuff
[09:49] <bignose__> mince
[09:49] <dr_Willis> one mans must have stuff.. is anothers  fluff.
[09:49] <areels> LSD|Ninja:  i didn@t get your point
[09:49] <orphean> solrize: ubuntu doesn't really target developers out of the box. they operate under the assumption a developer can but his own kit together. so they use that cd space on the disk for user stuff
[09:49] <LSD|Ninja> areels: displayconfig-gtk
[09:50] <macrobad> kontagious: Nah, I've booted Ubuntu 8.04 Live CD in VirtualBox, and found out there is gparted! So, it is not even necessary to use a DVD.
[09:50] <solrize> gparted?  what's that?
[09:50] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: a GNOME frontend for parted
[09:50] <gnomefreak> a partition editor
[09:50] <orphean> solrize: partition editor
[09:50] <solrize> er, how does that help?
[09:51] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: heh, you really are a developer aren't you?
[09:51] <areels> LSD|Ninja:  there is nothing in here
[09:51] <solrize> oh whoops sorry confused two threads
[09:51] <solrize> LSD yeah
[09:51] <areels> how can i fix a shortcut to a network mount on desktop?
[09:51] <macrobad> solrize: yeah, it was not meant for you. :)
[09:51] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: that wasn't supposed to be a compliment :P
[09:51] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot
[09:51] <solrize> it's not just development stuff all sorts of stuff is missing
[09:52] <solrize> and the development packages are split into 100's of sub-packages that have to be installed separately
[09:52] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: you can get most of the desktop stuff by installing *buntu-restricted-extras after you install the base
[09:52] <orphean> that's just debian's way solrize.
[09:52] <dr_Willis> The pros and cons of package management and meta-packages
[09:52] <LSD|Ninja> areels: just run it from the terminal for now
[09:52] <kontagious> macrobad: thanks that saves me the hastle
[09:53] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?
[09:53] <solrize> ubuntu-restricted-extras looks like it's mostly media codecs and stuff like that
[09:53] <solrize> is there ubuntu-unrestricted-extras?
[09:53] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: I did say desktop stuff
[09:53] <solrize> ubuntu-extras doesn't exist
[09:54] <solrize> restricted seems to mean proprietary stuff
[09:54] <solrize> if i wanted to run that, i'd buy a macintosh :)
[09:54] <mastrgamr> i have a short cut to a  libGL.so.1 (it doesnt exist), and i have a libGL.so.1.2 file.. is the libGL.so.1.2 file a backup up libGL.so.1??
[09:54] <solrize> i guess what i want is "install everything"
[09:54] <donda> is there any software available equivalent to tally
[09:54] <solrize> Couldn't find any package matching "everything", and more than 40
[09:54] <solrize> packages contain "everything" in their description.
[09:54] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: sounds like you want another distro
[09:55] <macrobad> mastrgamr: not necessarily. Most likely, they are different versions of the same library.
[09:55] <solrize> lsd|ninja yeah, i was using fedora before but we use ubuntu where i work so i'm trying to switch
[09:55] <donda>  is there any software available equivalent to tally for ubuntu
[09:55] <mastrgamr> there anyway i can make the installer use libGL.so.1.2 instead of libGL.so.1?
[09:55] <LSD|Ninja> lol, fedora blows
[09:55] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?
[09:55] <solrize> donda if no one answered the first time it's because they don't know, try again in a few hours
[09:56] <LSD|Ninja> I don't know how, but Fedora just gets crappier with each new release
[09:56] <solrize> lsd|ninja, yeah, it does seem that way
[09:56] <macrobad> solrize: why don't you make a list of all required packages one time and forever, and just copy paste it after apt-get install? It's not possible to satisfy all the people at once.
[09:56] <macrobad> donda: what is tally?
[09:56] <gordonjcp> LSD|Ninja: you could say the same of Ubuntu :-/
[09:57] <solrize> macrobad there are a million bazillion unix systems (linux-based and otherwise) since the dawn of time, and every one of them that i've ever seen except ubuntu has included the man page for putchar
[09:57] <LSD|Ninja> gordonjcp: yeah, 8.04 certainly seems to indicate they're going down that road
[09:57] <donda> macrobad:it is the software for maintaining banking and accounting
[09:57] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: Ubuntu is a desktop distro. dev stuff has no place in the base install
[09:57] <un2him> the first alpha of intrepid ibex is out, am installing it now
[09:57] <Pigeon`> Hi, I've just open my hardy and i got like no wallpaper, no taskbar, well i think i lost my gnome lol. I got that error :  Install problem!   The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly.
[09:58] <solrize> lsd|ninja i'm sympathetic to that, but why isn't there a developer package?  "sudo apt-get install developer"
[09:58] <solrize> i've been installing packages for weeks and still keep hitting missing stuff
[09:58] <orphean> this would probably be better on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:58] <solrize> orphean yeah true
[09:59] <molgrum> hello, i would like to downgrade my nvidia-glx-new package so that i can boot the 2.6.22-14 kernel again. i tried the "force version" option in synaptic but it doesn't let me go far enough..
[09:59] <macrobad> solrize: I can feel your pain, but on the other hand no distro I've seen so far was so easy to install and start using, as Ubuntu is. Btw, you may wish to go to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu and advocate deriving such a package.
[09:59] <un2him> molgrum: can't you just disable the nvidia driver in the restricted drivers panel?
[10:00] <macrobad> donda: sry, I cannot help.
[10:00] <solrize> looking
[10:00] <molgrum> un2him: well i still want the driver in the older kernel :)
[10:00] <Lukipela> Why does Ubuntu not give me a full screen??
[10:00] <Lukipela> i have 3 inch black borders.
[10:01] <molgrum> i'm suspecting the new kernel is buggy so i would like to downgrade to check
[10:01] <LSD|Ninja> Lukipela: try displayconfig-gtk
[10:01] <Lukipela> Ok, and i do that how?  :D
[10:01] <solrize> macrobad - maybe this is a start https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-install-dvd
[10:01] <un2him> molgrum: not sure, but you could disable nvidia, then boot to old kernel, then enable nvidia again
[10:02] <LSD|Ninja> Lukipela: in the terminal, you may have to call it with sudo
[10:02] <Lukipela> k
[10:02] <molgrum> un2him: ah, could try that
[10:02] <un2him> molgrum: good luck
[10:02] <molgrum> thanks
[10:03] <Lukipela> Ok, that will work, im going to let my system finish updates befor ei mess with it though, pentium 3's are a bit..stupid.
[10:03] <macrobad> solrize: that guy seems to be willing to see a lot of different restricted packages on Ubuntu DVD, and you were looking for a "developer" installation target. Am I correct?
[10:04] <abhi_> is there any cli application like dos edit... I do't like the vi
[10:04] <twoface_> Hi. Everytime I log in, Ubuntu warns me that my mouse battery is at 14%. This is not true. How can I turn off this notification?
[10:04] <abhi_> or emacs
[10:04] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  thers dozens of cli editors.
[10:05] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  nano, pico, mp, fte, vi variants, emacs and variants, mcedit.
[10:05] <areels> ive too many problems
[10:05] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?
[10:05] <areels> and why my keyboard insists on us
[10:05] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  i really like fte myself  for a text editor.
[10:05] <areels> i need turkish kaeb
[10:05] <un2him> areels: where does the shortcut link to?  maybe an unmounted drive or partition?
[10:05] <solrize> macrobad i think that guy is interested in basically the same thing as me, i.e. more stuff in the base installation
[10:05] <solrize> and less downloading
[10:05] <areels> un2him: a smb location over network
[10:06] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : let me try them.
[10:06] <solrize> in my case i want more dev stuff but really, a lot of the very basic unix stuff was missing
[10:06] <LSD|Ninja> again, no place in a desktop distro
[10:07] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : is there any cli editor with mouse support
[10:07] <donda> how to configure sound manager for 5.1 channel audio
[10:07] <solrize> lots of missing documentation, a desktop os should never install software without installing the docs for the software
[10:07] <macrobad> solrize: "more stuff in the base installation" sounds like "more bloat" to me... At any rate, I think what you're looking for is best described with the phrase "package task". Try 'tasksel --list-tasks' to see existing ones.
[10:08] <solrize> hmm i'm not sure how to interpret the output of that
[10:08] <macrobad> solrize: Also, there *are* a lot of packages on Ubuntu DVD, all of which are free. Isn't it enough?
[10:08] <solrize> ubuntu-dvd-live
[10:08] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  fte and vi can do that.  not sure bout others.
[10:08] <solrize> the dvd just seems like a dump of a bunch of packages that don't get installed automatically
[10:08] <berent> Is eclipse compatible with mozilla firefox 3?
[10:08] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  you will need to install gpm for console mouse support
[10:09] <donda>  how to configure sound manager for 5.1 channel audio
[10:09] <solrize> and iirc it was still missing a lot of stuff
[10:09] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: www.debian.org
[10:09] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : does vi support mouse. if so how to activate them
[10:09] <solrize> looking
[10:09] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : let me install the gpm
[10:09] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  vim has some sort of mouse support mode. I never use it.
[10:09] <solrize> right, ubuntu is a debian fork iirc
[10:09] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  i never use the mouse mode i mean.. I do use vim :)
[10:09] <fr4nk-k> abhi_: The graphical vim supports mouse. (gvim)
[10:09] <solrize> lsd|ninja i think you are right that fedora is getting worse
[10:09] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : then i will google it out
[10:10] <dr_Willis> I think ubuntu has gone beyond just a fork now. :)
[10:10] <dr_Willis> More of a Spoon!
[10:10] <solrize> hehe
[10:10] <raheem> hehe.. right dr_Willis
[10:10] <magnetron> hi! i'm connecting to to a ssh server. the server is using a iso-latin1 (ISO8859-1) locale, my ubuntu client is using a UTF-8 locale. the characters are messed up, how should i connect to be able to view all chars?
[10:11] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: I'm messing around with Fedora 9 right now. Ubuntu has it's rough edges but F9 really is the uncut stone fresh from the rock
[10:11] <solrize> hehe
[10:11] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  wouldent you set whatever terminal ssh is running in. to use the proper character set/locale?
[10:11] <solrize> lsd|ninja i'm still using fedora 3 and 4 on my other boxes
[10:11] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  i recall doing that with putty under windows at least.
[10:11] <dr_Willis> !info putty
[10:12] <LSD|Ninja> the linux putty sucks
[10:12] <macrobad> solrize: I am really happy that Ubuntu comes with a limited number of packages installed by default. On the other hand, given that I don't need any restricted drivers, almost all the stuff can be found on a DVD. If you wish, I can even pastebin my list of packages (yeah, there is a lot of documentation ones!)
[10:12] <solrize> ubuntu is nicer than fedora in many ways, i just wish it had about the same packages as fedora
[10:12] <solrize> macrobad yes i'd appreciate that pastebin
[10:12] <dr_Willis> LSD|Ninja,  never tried it.  :)
[10:12] <Keule|guest> Good morning
[10:12] <pan0983> good morning
[10:12] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i am using the standard ssh client. i know i can do it with putty i windows, but i am wondering how to do it with the standard ssh client
[10:13] <LSD|Ninja> Fedora has a far better look to it than Ubuntu, Ubuntu seriously has to junk that babyshit brown theme
[10:13] <Keule|guest> can some help me to connect my wm6 mobile phone with ubuntu - i want to share my UMTS in order to get online...
[10:13] <kemf4y4> hi
[10:13] <solrize> that's not just a hardy theme?
[10:13] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  you mean ssh inside a gnome terminal then?  Putty for linux i just tried.. and it has the exact same options/features as the windows one does it seems.
[10:13] <pestor> dear all, is it possible to get NetworkManager 0.7 up and running in hardy?
[10:13] <pan0983> networkmanagergnome?
[10:14] <pestor> yes
[10:14] <pan0983> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome ?
[10:14] <LSD|Ninja> Ubuntu already has networkmanager...
[10:14] <pan0983> he said he wanted network manager?
[10:14] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i need to do it with the standard ubuntu ssh client... i don't want to be a prick or anything
[10:14] <pestor> i dont think that will give me 0.7
[10:14] <LSD|Ninja> pestor: what's in 0.7 that you really need?
[10:14] <pestor> i *think* it's only available in fedora by default
[10:14] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  i THINK its more of an issue with the Terminal you are running SSH in. not ssh itself.
[10:15] <magnetron> dr_Willis: ok, thx
[10:15] <pestor> the support for my 3g-dongle. i was struggling like crazy to et it working in hardy but eventually failed. in fedora is working out of the box with one click.
[10:15] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  there may be some variables you can set/locale and stuff.. but ive not messed with that stuff.
[10:16] <solrize> macrobad were you going to pastebin a package list?
[10:16] <pestor> but of course i dont want to run fedora :)
[10:16] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i tried that, but it "didn't work"
[10:16] <vox> hi, what work-around is there for the cd-burning bug?
[10:16] <redbull_> how about debian?
[10:16] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  you did 'export' the changes?  there may be a SSH faq somewhere that explains how to do it.
[10:16] <solrize> gnome terminal apparently has a character encoding menu
[10:17] <LSD|Ninja> pestor: sounds like a driver issue more than a network manager issue
[10:17] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i'm having troubles find such FAQs :(
[10:17] <geirha> vox: what bug are you referring to?
[10:17] <redbull_> fedora = suck
[10:17] <raheem> magnetron:    env LANG="<locale>" gnome-terminal .. may be
[10:17] <magnetron> solrize: it does? i didn't find it
[10:17] <magnetron> solrize: ahhh... thx
[10:17] <solrize> click the terminal tab
[10:17] <raheem> create a launcher with that .. with the correct locale ..
[10:17] <pestor> LSD|Ninja: hmm, maybe your right
[10:17] <vox> geirha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/149076
[10:17] <solrize> add encoding
[10:17] <magnetron> solrize: thx alot!
[10:17] <solrize> np
[10:18] <dr_Willis> wow a concise bug. :)
[10:18] <redbull_> solar = bug
[10:18] <LSD|Ninja> redbull_: Fedora = Ubuntu in a year or two if they insist on putting out crappy releases like 8.04
[10:18] <pan0983> can i install firefox32bit on ubuntu 64bit?
[10:18] <erdem_> #ubuntu-tr
[10:18] <macrobad> solrize: a sec
[10:18] <Lukipela> yah, 8.04 is killing me on the older systems i have
[10:18] <solrize> ubuntu auto-installed some kind of upgrade on my box yesterday and asked for a reboot and the reboot kernel panicked :(
[10:18] <dr_Willis> pan0983,  yes - i belive its doable.  and No i dont know how.
[10:19] <solrize> macrobad thanks
[10:19] <vox> i mean serriously, all i want to do is burn an iso
[10:19] <Lukipela> lots of video issues, like my screen randomly going black during updates.. like now.
[10:19] <redbull_> i am using Fortran in Ubuntu as well
[10:19] <pan0983> try ubuntu ultimate
[10:19] <redbull_> ultimate ?
[10:19] <pan0983> yeah
[10:19] <macrobad> solrize: Ready: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23481/
[10:20] <pan0983> has a lot of stuff in it
[10:20] <pan0983> got to burn it to dvd
[10:20] <geirha> vox: does the bug also encompass brasero?
[10:20] <redbull_> hmm
[10:20] <pan0983> got everything set up
[10:20] <macrobad> solrize: I'm sure, we have different interests, though! :)
[10:20] <magnetron> pan0983: come on... it's just more packages installed by default
[10:20] <pan0983> yeah
[10:20] <pan0983> thats wat i meant
[10:20] <magnetron> pan0983: it's the same packages as in the ubuntu repos
[10:20] <pan0983> rilly?
[10:20] <redbull_> who installed lazybuntu ?
[10:20] <magnetron> pan0983: yes
[10:20] <pan0983> oh
[10:21] <redbull_> its not good
[10:21] <solrize> macrobad, thanks, i see there's a lot of doc packages, i believe in documentation, i'd be happy to install all the docs for every package ever released even for packages that i don't install
[10:21] <redbull_> its not very well
[10:21] <dr_Willis> UbuntuHDFillerUpEdition.
[10:21] <solrize> that way if i think i want a package, i can read its docs beforehand
[10:21] <Lukipela> dont you hate it when you take a shower and you get out, and dry off, and then forget to rinse your hair?  ill brb.
[10:21] <solrize> i think there should be "apt-get install all-the-docs-for-everything"
[10:21] <pan0983> i agree
[10:21] <solrize> lukipela uhh no i don't think that has ever happened to me .... wow
[10:22] <dr_Willis> solrize,  make a meta-package then for it.  Seen that done by some people for their setups that they perfer.
[10:22] <vox> geirha: just trying now
[10:22] <macrobad> solrize: np! You should try using synaptic
[10:22] <redbull_> launchpad response speed NOOB!!
[10:22] <ue> Good day all, ony one has any experience with bar code readers under ubuntu ?
[10:22] <magnetron> !noob | redbull_
[10:23] <magnetron> !anyone | ue
[10:23] <macrobad> solrize: All the packages are divided in groups, and you can find the "documentation" group there.
[10:23] <solrize> synaptic is a gui thing that confused the heck out of me... i've been using aptitude because it gets the recommended additional packages when you install something, instead of just saying what they are and letting them whiz by the screen
[10:23] <solrize> macrobad i pasted your documentation get and it's downloading now
[10:23] <redbull_> !noob
[10:23] <pan0983> when is flash going to be for firefox64bit sighs
[10:23] <redbull_> ok ok
[10:23] <magnetron> !flash64 | pan0983
[10:23] <redbull_> fine
[10:23] <redbull_> fine fine !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:23] <vox> geirha: yep, brasero also relies on wodim for burning
[10:23] <solrize> can i install a package group?
[10:24] <macrobad> solrize: :)
[10:24] <redbull_> anyone using win Vista ???
[10:24] <pan0983> no
[10:24] <ue> whats software can you recomend for implementing a code bar reader system ? I need to scan a bar code and send the output to a php/per lscript
[10:24] <redbull_> haha
[10:24] <solrize> did i make a funny?  that wasn't intentional
[10:24] <redbull_> vista = rubbish ?
[10:24] <pan0983> *shrugs*
[10:24] <solrize> marooned off vista
[10:25] <LSD|Ninja> ue: most bar code readers I'm familiar with emulate a keyboard
[10:25] <redbull_> ?
[10:25] <solrize> i've seen some bar code stuff around
[10:25] <redbull_> vista = rubbish ?
[10:25] <redbull_> vista = rubbish ??
[10:25] <macrobad> solrize: No, I am not sure it is easily doable, but should be possible, if you a familiar enough with debian package management.
[10:25] <ue> LSD|Ninja, I read about that
[10:25] <pan0983> yes
[10:25] <fr4nk-k> redbull_: rigth
[10:25] <fr4nk-k> :D
[10:25] <solrize> google.com/search?q=barcode+linux finds a lot
[10:25] <redbull_> : D
[10:25] <redbull_> :       D
[10:26] <ue> LSD|Ninja, but I need software that captures that input decodeds it and sends to a script
[10:26] <redbull_> i HATE Visa
[10:26] <redbull_> i HATE Vista !!
[10:26] <dr_Willis> solrize,  you could use the command line package tools to generate a list of all -doc packages then isntall from that list. I imagine.
[10:26] <solrize> dr_willis hmm
[10:26] <LSD|Ninja> I just *know* that when I reboot the wifi isn't going to work because the kernel has been upgraded and the fedora software updater doesn't seem to be pulling in the livna packages >_<
[10:26] <redbull_> fr4nk-k: right?
[10:27] <ue> solrize, yes find a lot thats the problem, so I am asking maybe some one has any experience with that, so I don't go all the find and try road
[10:27] <solrize> macrobad your software install includes a bunch of servers... does the installation script actually start the servers running and listening and open up ports?  i'm not sure i want that
[10:27] <fr4nk-k> redbull_: yeah, i think vista's sh_t, too
[10:27] <solrize> ue oh i see
[10:27] <fr4nk-k> redbull_: but that doesn't blong in taht channel
[10:27] <macrobad> solrize: I've smiled to someone installing the packages, I've made for myself. Actually, the reason I made it is to free myself from a hassle of customizing all the machines, I'm toying with.
[10:28] <macrobad> solrize: Yes, it does. You have to setup iptables, or switch it off.
[10:28] <redbull_> Linux having REDBULL power ?
[10:28] <ue> solrize, just some tips about : that actualy this peice of software works, and works how it should with this hardware
[10:28] <danielm_mc> anyone had any problems with 8.04 wireless?
[10:28] <solrize> ue yeah i remember someone had a cute hack where they used a cuecat reader to catalog their book collection... they read the barcodes and looked up the isbn's on amazon
[10:28] <danielm_mc> with madwifi and wpasupplicant?
[10:28] <vox> this is making me stabby.
[10:29] <solrize> macrobad i think you have the right idea, build up a list of packages and keep re-using it
[10:29] <solrize> it would be nice to be able to nest packages
[10:29] <ue> solrize, well cuecat in an abandoned project atm, so maybe some other better alternatives
[10:29] <solrize> is that possible?
[10:29] <solrize> ue yeah that was ages ago
[10:29] <redbull_> how to using printer in command line?
[10:30] <macrobad> solrize: btw, may be this would be useful for you too: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
[10:30] <solrize> redbull_  lpr file-to-print
[10:30] <redbull_> thx
[10:30] <solrize> macrobad thanks
[10:30] <macrobad> np
[10:30] <solrize> bookmarking
[10:30] <redbull_> why np?
[10:30] <philsf> hello, I just found out about SSL encryption for IRC, and set it up for the OFTC debian irc servers. I can't find out how to do the same for ubuntu (freenode) irc servers. Can any of you point me to some doc with info on this subject?
[10:31] <jussi01> philsf: ask in #freenode
[10:31] <solrize> freenode has ssl?
[10:31] <jussi01> but I dont think freenode has ssl
[10:31] <solrize> i think it's kind of pointless since most people aren't using it
[10:31] <vithos> freenode doesn't have ssl, last i checked
[10:31] <SliMM_> hello, my laptop's specification says that I have 4GB of RAM, but Ubuntu says that I only have 3
[10:32] <solrize> 32 bit?
[10:32] <jesus_christoffe> l
[10:32] <SliMM_> I know, they could have been wrong and used a 1GB-chip instead of a 2GB one
[10:32] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: you probably want the amd64 ubuntu (yes, even if you have a Core 2)
[10:32] <macrobad> I don't think you freenode has ssl, but it supports tor
[10:32] <macrobad> http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[10:33] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: won't it work awful?
[10:33] <macrobad> s/you/
[10:33] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: and I do have core 2 duo
[10:33] <solrize> sometimes i think of running openbsd
[10:33] <vox> what work-around is there for the cd-burning bug?
[10:33] <gordonjcp> solrize: not worth it, tbh
[10:33] <_coredump_> SliMM_, for 32bit you need to recompile your kernel to use more than 3gb ram
[10:33] <qingfeng> hello everyone
[10:33] <jussi01> !tor | macrobad
[10:34] <solrize> gordonjcp i'm not sure what tbh means but i think i get your drift :)
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: OpenBSD is basically NetBSD that doesn't work properly, with a project team headed up by an arrogant nobber
[10:34] <orphean> solrize: to be honest
[10:34] <quinn> SliMM_, you'd better install the 64Bit
[10:34] <solrize> gordonjcp yeah that's about the impression i had... but they do seem to be more vigilant about locking stuff down
[10:34] <LSD|Ninja> amd64 is a far better bet than dicking around with options to increase the address space in 32 bit
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: yeah, except they're not
[10:34] <solrize> oh heh
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: they haven't got a *clue* how to do it properly
[10:34] <macrobad> jussi01: hmm... Anyway, I don't use it, but thanks.
[10:34] <jussi01> :)
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: and then TdR *lies* about how secure it is
[10:35] <gordonjcp> solrize: like, the whole "no exploits in ten years thing" - except every time they find an exploit they change what they define an exploit as
[10:35] <solrize> hehe
[10:35] <gordonjcp> solrize: like for instance a very serious buffer overrun that is a remote root vuln is "errata", not an exploit
[10:35] <solrize> i just saw there was another openssl bug in the past few days... i wonder if that affected them
[10:36] <gordonjcp> solrize: well the openssl bug that affected Debian, Ubuntu et al was just Debian upstream vandalism
[10:36] <solrize> no not that one a new one
[10:36] <MrLukipela> Ok, so now, after i set the video drivers to the correct chipset, the screen is completely messed up, and when i try to open a command prompt the system logs me off.
[10:36] <solrize> in the past week or so
[10:36] <gordonjcp> solrize: people were fiddling with stuff they don't understand
[10:36] <jussi01> !ot
[10:36] <gordonjcp> jussi01: you're right
[10:36] <gordonjcp> solrize: we should take this to #u-ot
[10:37] <solrize> gordonjcp yeah that debian thing was outrageous
[10:37] <solrize> gordonjcp ok
[10:37] <gordonjcp> or stop, before Theo de Raant sends me another snotty email
[10:37] <solrize> hahaha
[10:37] <bmw> hi all
[10:37] <MrLukipela> So any ideas??
[10:37] <solrize> boot in safe mode?
[10:38] <vox> what work-around is there for the cd-burning bug?
[10:38] <MrLukipela> attempting that now
[10:38] <pan0983> stupid question
[10:38] <pan0983> wats difference from gksudo and sudo
[10:38] <bmw> how can i download the flash video . i try with download helper for Firefox but its not work .
[10:39] <bmw> http://www.tnt-tv.ru/programs/ComedyClub/video/156/video06.flv
[10:39] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: gksudo loads a graphical application with root rights; sudo is for commadn-line applications
[10:39] <pan0983> thx
[10:40] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: np
[10:40] <MrLukipela> Ok
[10:40] <MrLukipela> So it wont let me change my drivers now
[10:41] <MrLukipela> The one it is set to is incorrect, but when i choose the correct one it reverts back at the next screen.
[10:41] <jimcooncat> gf pressed a key combination that triggered a massive screen zoom (using Gnome). How to unzoom, please?
[10:42] <kidbuntu> someone help
[10:42] <fr4nk-k> bmw: well, download helper works on my system ???
[10:42] <kidbuntu> i can't use iphone on my ubuntu
[10:42] <magnetron> jimcooncat: in compiz, it's the meta key(windows key) and the scroll wheel
[10:42] <jimcooncat> thanks magnetron
[10:43] <dr_Willis> i thought the windows key was the 'super' key
[10:43] <fr4nk-k> dr_Willis: yes, it is. at least on my system
[10:44] <MrLukipela> well i think i fixed the new problem, but im at square one with the original problem, which is i have a big black border around my screen.
[10:44] <dr_Willis> the 'tux' key. :)
[10:44] <jimcooncat> that was scary, all ok now
[10:44] <fr4nk-k> :D
[10:44] <fr4nk-k> exactly
[10:44] <MrLukipela> nevermind, new problem still persists, when i go to terminal services the system logs me out
[10:45] <MrLukipela> You know, i have done about 10 fresh installs of vista and not had this much trouble.
[10:45] <dr_Willis> MrLukipela,  it took my new laptop (with vista) about an hr to boot up the first time - it was configrung stuff under vista. :) I installed ubuntu on 2 other machines as the vista laptop was just booting..
[10:46] <bmw> es its works wot hi can download the curent video part :) in the adress bar the video the video link chenchid
[10:46] <MrLukipela> But did they work?  I installed it fine, but its taken me about 6 hours to get it running, and now, trying to fix a video issue, the system logs me off when i try to change it, which makes NO SENSE at all.  Anyways, im going to crash
[10:47] <MrLukipela> maybe i can find a solution to it in my sleep ;)
[10:47] <kidbuntu> help please for iphone users
[10:47] <dr_Willis> !iphone
[10:48] <fr4nk-k> kidbuntu: i think in this channel there are no iphone users
[10:48] <pen> anyone here using galaxium? I can't make it display adium themes
[10:48] <pen> how could I make it work
[10:48] <dr_Willis> Other then the ones that cant get them to work.. :)
[10:48] <Templis> Hi, I'm trying to make a CS server on xubuntu 7.10 install CD, can anyone here help me?
[10:48] <MrLukipela> YAY i fixed my border issue, lets see if it will let me into my terminal though..
[10:48] <fr4nk-k> Templis: Well, I definetly can'T help you, but what exactly is your problem??
[10:49] <MrLukipela> Hey i finally timed out
[10:49] <Templis> I've never customized install CDs
[10:49] <dr_Willis> MrLukipela,  sounded like yoru video res was set low and the lcd just centered it.
[10:49] <MrLukipela> Yah
[10:49] <fr4nk-k> Templis: ah, understand
[10:49] <Templis> and don't know, how to put that server programm in CD
[10:50] <MrLukipela> dr_Willis: yes, after i figured that out it was pretty easy to see a solution, but now i get logged out when i try to enter a the command prompt.
[10:50] <fr4nk-k> Templis: Some time ago I've found a tool on sourceforge for customizing Ubuntu install cds. Maybe try sf.net for more information??
[10:51] <MrLukipela> This is awesome, when i reboot i get about 50 warning messages.  wish i could have read them all..
[10:51] <MrLukipela> ok, seriously, going to bed!
[10:51] <pan0983> gnite
[10:51] <fr4nk-k> MrLukipela: ok, good night
[10:51] <orphean> MrLukipela: dmesg
[10:51] <Templis> TNX, i'll try
[10:52] <fr4nk-k> Templis: np
[10:53] <pan0983> firefox32 & to run firefox?
[10:54] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: what exactly is your prob?
[10:54] <pan0983> hmm i did everything but when i run firefox32 &
[10:54] <pan0983> i get regular firefox 64bit
[10:54] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: did you uninstall FFx64 ??
[10:54] <Luxx16126> #software
[10:54] <raptor> #linux-nantes
[10:54] <pan0983> no
[10:54] <pan0983> i did not
[10:55] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: maybe you should
[10:55] <pan0983> k
[10:55] <eyeslocal> MrLukipela: dmesg | more ?
[10:55] <fr4nk-k> eyeslocal: MrLukipela already left
[10:55] <raptor> lu
[10:56] <fletschi> morning
[10:56] <pan0983> morning
[10:56] <eyeslocal> fr4nk-k: ahh sorry still getting used to chatzilla... don't see quits for some reason
[10:56] <raptor> bonne matine
[10:56] <fr4nk-k> eyeslocal: np
[10:56] <raptor> do you speak french
[10:56] <fr4nk-k> !English | raptor
[10:56] <Luxx16126> What`s the cell of   "toshiba Satellite A300" ? 6h??
[10:57] <raptor> ubuntu fr
[10:57] <raptor> ??
[10:57] <fr4nk-k> #ubuntu-fr i think
[10:58] <raptor> thx
[10:58] <fr4nk-k> raptor: np
[10:59] <pen> anyone here using galaxium? I can't make it display adium themes
[10:59] <pen> how could I make it work
[10:59] <Tomestat> Hi everybody !
[10:59] <fr4nk-k> Tomestat: hi
[10:59] <Tonehog> Anyone have experience with working with KMyMoney?
[10:59] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I burnt Ubuntu to a CD, and ran the CD check, but it hangs on 73% of "Loading Linux Kernel"
[11:00] <Tomestat> I got a problem with dpkg after my update of this morning.
[11:00] <InsomniaCity`> Is this a CD problem? An ubuntu problem?
[11:00] <Tonehog> InsomniaCity`: try validating the CD
[11:00] <InsomniaCity`> Tonehog: thats what I'm doing
[11:00] <Tonehog> InsomniaCity`: it's probably a CD issue.
[11:01] <Tonehog> InsomniaCity`: your best bet is to do an md5sum check on the iso.
[11:01] <pen> anyone here using galaxium? I can't make it display adium themes
[11:01] <pen> how could I make it work
[11:01] <Tomestat> After update, i got an error message complaining about a segfault when restarting samba and from then, every operation on packages ends with an error message complaining about a syntax error in the file /var/lib/dpkg/available (i only have the error message in french). Can anybody help ?
[11:01] <InsomniaCity`> Tonehog: good plan, thanks
[11:02] <__ryan__> Tomestat, #ubuntu-fr ?
[11:02] <Tomestat> I didn't get an answer...
[11:02] <dismal_denizen> Does anyone know why there is no Debian package for NetBeans 6.1?
[11:04] <InsomniaCity`> Tomestat: where do I get the correct checksums? :S
[11:04] <Tomestat> the error message says there is a syntax error on the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/available (line with Status: install ok installed)
[11:04] <InsomniaCity`> Tomestat: sorry, meant tonehog
[11:05] <Antierick> heloo
[11:06] <Antierick> helloooo
[11:06] <amber_jo> i havent been on mirc for 4 year!!!
[11:06] <amber_jo> this is so intense
[11:06] <Otacon22> anyone know how to get slim the fluxbox bars?
[11:06] <pan09232> i finally got firefox working sighs
[11:07] <dismal_denizen> This is the first time I've used IRC - those enter/exit messages are driving me crazy!
[11:07] <Antierick> a lightweight linux
[11:07] <skillet_> dismal_denizen, you can turn those off...
[11:08] <eyeslocal> dismal_denizen: which irc client are you using?
[11:08] <dismal_denizen> eyeslocal: I'm using Pidgin
[11:08] <erdem_> #ubuntu-tr
[11:08] <amber_jo> im using a computer
[11:08] <amber_jo> it has pretty colours
[11:08] <amber_jo> and flashing lights
[11:09]  * dr_Willis unplugs amber_jo 's microwave
[11:09] <Jasra> is someone able to help me with screen resolution
[11:09] <pan09232> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:10]  * amber_jo plugs back in the microwave
[11:10] <amber_jo> i need that you know
[11:10] <amber_jo> whats the group with the game?
[11:11] <amber_jo> you know, the one where it asks you questions and you build up points by answering them
[11:11] <amber_jo> anyone?
[11:11] <amber_jo> its so lonely and col in here
[11:11] <amber_jo> alllllll by myself
[11:11] <eyeslocal> dismal_denizen: never tried that one, but i would think there's a way to disable join and part messages
[11:11] <amber_jo> im going to murderlise this laptop
[11:12] <amber_jo> help
[11:12] <skillet> dismal_denizen, if you look at the plugins there is a join/part hiding plugin you can enable for pidgin
[11:12] <gluer> im using alsa sound...why when i play music through one app, it wont work in another?
[11:12] <JensB> Hi everybody
[11:12] <dismal_denizen> skillet: So there is!
[11:13] <sea_wolf> I'm having trouble installing fonts, I have quite a few....does anyone know where to put them so all my programs automatically find them??
[11:13] <amber_jo> im using my microwave
[11:13] <amber_jo> micro micro micro wave
[11:13] <gluer> amber_jo: thats nice
[11:13] <skillet> amber_jo, why are you so strange
[11:13] <microwave> i dont really know to be honest
[11:14] <microwave> I think I am because I can be because I am not a sheep and I dare to be differant
[11:14] <microwave> its hard though
[11:14] <dismal_denizen> Anyone seen Big Buck Bunny?
[11:14] <microwave> i was telling my friend yesterday
[11:14] <ninjabuntu> i have it actully very good
[11:14] <skillet> no i dont think thats it
[11:14] <gluer> microwave: mate your a tosser, can you just f%^k off somewhere else...
[11:15] <microwave> when everyone is sheep and u just want to stand on your hind legs and scream baaaaaa i want to become a hippy and grown organic vegetables - its hard
[11:15] <JensB> I have just set up a dmcrypt/LUKS protected /home and swap (aes-xts-plain, sha256, 256bits). I use the same (pretty complex) password for LUKS, console login and samba, so pam_mount works (like a charm). Is this "safe enough" or is it pretty easy to revocer passwords from the /etc/passwd file or the smbpasswd file?
[11:15] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: have it actully very good
[11:15] <microwave> females cannot be tossers
[11:15] <microwave> perhaps a flosser?
[11:15] <Knightly88> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to copy 1 Ubuntu System and somehow copy it OVER another copy of Ubuntu on an external hard drive?
[11:16] <dismal_denizen> ninjabuntu: It's amazing what they did with Blender
[11:16] <JensB> Knightly88, sure, but you'll destroy the "another copy of Ubuntu"
[11:16] <gluer> whens that damn system restore comming?
[11:17] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: thats what finally broke me of my endles sceming to buy Maya. and want to learn all about blender wich then convinced me Open Source was the way to go... as good as any pixar movie i say...
[11:17] <JensB> gluer, are you talking about the menu that I get when I boot my Ubuntu into single user mode?
[11:17] <gluer> microwave: yes women are flossers! they just need to reach down and grab the dental floss
[11:17] <amber> sies
[11:17] <dismal_denizen> ninjabuntu: Glad to hear that! I'm not very artistic myself... 3D artists are amazing!
[11:18] <gluer> microwave: but only in winter
[11:18] <amber> why only in winter?
[11:18] <Knightly88> Yes... I don't care... I want to erase/overight the "new installed" copy of Ubuntu on my ex-hard drive with my MAIN Ubuntu copy from my PC... Any idea JensB how I can do that? Thanks.
[11:19] <gluer> kightly: norton ghost?
[11:19] <JensB> Knightly88, can you use the console / terminal?
[11:19] <Knightly88> Na... don't trust Norton, lol.
[11:20] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: I'm also looking forward to project Apricot which is based on BBB's franky character. And since the Game feild is where i want to be, even just as a hobby. Hobby Game Developer is not tat bad... Look at Linux... It was started as a Hobby and GNU's OS wasn't exastly ready at the time. Now look what we have...
[11:20] <JensB> Knightly88, there are several ways
[11:20] <Knightly88> I can use the console/terminal yes.
[11:20] <gluer> kightly: yeh well it works for millions of others
[11:20] <dismal_denizen> gluer: Isn't there a similar thing called Clonezilla?
[11:20] <JensB> Knightly88, is the ext harddisk same size as the internal one?
[11:20] <Knightly88> No... it's bigger...
[11:20] <JensB> Knightly88, do you want to be able to use that extra space or don't you care (-> 1:1 backup)?
[11:20] <amber> i use my ACDB plug into my new galafruitloop esquire terminal with WWWk speed and then I install the graphics using LLm tunpike pc consoles
[11:21] <amber> u dig?
[11:21] <gluer> dis: you tell me, i use ghost with linux no probs, why muck around when something just works
[11:21] <amber> u see ghosts gluer?
[11:21] <amber> u shld see someone about that
[11:21] <eyeslocal> i used to use ghost, til i discovered partimage
[11:21] <g00LiPoP> Have any of u guys heard of some new Linux-Dist called MUsix? I seems kinda good if u work with music and stuff:P
[11:21] <Knightly88> Here is what is on my external HD: 230GB Ubuntu, 10GB Swap, 10GB FAT32...
[11:21] <amber> ur a partridge>
[11:21] <gluer> amber: your still upset at my comeback to microwave
[11:21] <dismal_denizen> ninjabuntu: I'm working on a game at the moment called "The Infinite Kingdom". It's meant to be a D&D based RPG written in Java.
[11:22] <amber> not really no
[11:22] <g00LiPoP> Dimsal_denizen: Nice:P
[11:22] <Knightly88> JensB here is what is on my external HD: 230GB Ubuntu, 10GB Swap, 10GB FAT32.
[11:22] <JensB> Knightly: Parted can do that. If you want a GUI, boot the desktop Ubuntu CD and use the "Partitioning tool" in System > Administration.
[11:22] <amber> i am just a sad lady whois work kills her and so i need to find some way to unwind
[11:22] <__ryan__> 10 gig swap is way too much
[11:22] <fma243> where can i get gparted
[11:22] <eyeslocal> getting ready to test out FOG.. open source ghost replacement that doesn't even require a boot cd, boots from PXE
[11:22] <skillet> what work do you do
[11:22] <amber> my fiance has gone to sell some baking equipment and i was on facebook
[11:22] <JensB> fma243, apt-get install gparted, or use the Ubuntu Live CD
[11:22] <gluer> amber: well im unwinding with a bottle of red, if your free why not pop over
[11:23] <amber> but now here i am just sitting in my yellow gown messing with u lovely ppl
[11:23] <Knightly88> JensB I have Gparted... and I already have partitions set up and a running copy of Ubuntu on the external HD... I just want to copy my version of Ubuntu on my desktop HD to my external and overright... any ideas?
[11:23] <fma243> i cant find it in synaptic package manager
[11:23] <gluer> amber: funny that...
[11:23] <amber> gluer - im not joking thats the funny part
[11:23] <JensB> Knightly88, well, go for it. what#s your specific problem, what _exactly_ did not work? there's a menu "copy/move" when you select a partition in GParted.
[11:23] <gluer> amber: i know
[11:23] <gluer> hehe
[11:24] <sea_wolf> i take the silence to mean none of you know a thing about installing vast amounts of fonts...without changing system settings???
[11:24] <JensB> anybody know how "secure" the pw encryption in passwd and smbpasswd is?
[11:24] <Knightly88> JensB  .... a copy/move you say... I'll have to take another look real quick...  But my skills are a bit lasking so far on the blender end, I know the theory of 3d art, but the tool I've choosen is in real need of work on my end. Still a game project would force me to step up my game a bit. Me I'm more of a props and Enviroment mesh artist. I can make really cool loking weapons and worlds but character design and animati
[11:26] <ninjabuntu> on still escapes me... still a DnD based game would be fun. And While i do love our lovable Tux, there is only so many times I can stand playing TuxRacer...
[11:26] <da_yzman> does anyone know how i can use synaptic to install firefox 3? the one on it is only 3.0 b4
[11:26] <__ryan__> what about openarena ninjabuntu
[11:26] <da_yzman> hi
[11:26] <Knightly88> JensB Yes I agree... I did use Gparted and try... I just didn't pay enough attention to the copy/paste as I was just partitioning at the time... Thanks for your help.
[11:26] <dr_Willis> da_yzman,  if you update/upgrade - it should install the latest I thought.
[11:27] <fma243> ahem can any one tell me where i can get gparted i cant find it in synaptic package manager
[11:27] <dr_Willis> da_yzman,  close out your curently running firefox if any.
[11:27] <dr_Willis> !find gparted
[11:27] <dismal_denizen> ninjabuntu: Want to help? I'm still feeling around myself though, I'm no pro.
[11:27] <dr_Willis> !info gparted
[11:27] <Rotlaus> I've set a wallpaper in my openbox autostart script, but don't see it because after log in the background is first set to the Wallpaper and then to the background color color set in gnome. How can i disable that?
[11:27] <ninjabuntu> __ryan__: Thats cool and all but I'm not much of a FPS Multiplayer sort of guy... I don't have the reflexes for it...
[11:28] <__ryan__> what about openarena ninjabuntu
[11:28] <__ryan__> oops
[11:28] <fma243>  !find gparted
[11:28] <dayzman-w> hi
[11:28] <dayzman-w> does anyone know how i can install firefox 3.0 using synaptic? the one on it is only 3.0 b4
[11:29] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: I'll pm you... too much going on to have a convosation like this one over the open...
[11:29] <Knightly88> JensB problem... how do I copy my current OS to the ex-HD when I am USING the OS... am I going to have to do this process from a CD or boot or something? Gparted says my current drive is busy... being used... so I can't copy/paste it...
[11:29] <eyeslocal> dayzman-w: try an apt-get update first
[11:29] <pan09232> from a cd
[11:29] <pan09232> ?
[11:29] <dayzman-w> eyeslocal i have reloaded the list
[11:29] <eyeslocal> Knightly88: you can just do a bit-by-bit copy of one hdd to another with something like "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb"
[11:29] <pan09232> run gparted from a cd?
[11:29] <gooody> how can i install Java runtime environment in ubuntu hardy?
[11:30] <amber> u have lost the game
[11:30] <fma243> i found it
[11:30] <fma243> oh btw i have another  question
[11:31] <dr_Willis> gooody,  i normally install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package. that grabs java, and other things you may want.
[11:31] <fma243> i accidently installed ubuntu two time and i want to remove one of the installations how can i do that
[11:32] <fma243> and also i seem to have no power over my hd partitions
[11:32] <dr_Willis> fma243,  use the partion manager tools to delete the install/partitions you dont want.. (be carefull) :)
[11:32] <dr_Willis> fma243,  then remove any extra entries in the grub menu.lst file.
[11:32] <gooody> dr_Willis: does JRE included in the ubuntu-restricted package?
[11:32] <Quicksilva> When I run mplayer in full screen the subtitles stay there and overlap each other instead of dissapearing when the next line pops up.  anyone know what could cause this?
[11:32] <dr_Willis> gooody,  i think it is.  Its a meta package of all sorts of other 'normally wanted' packages
[11:33] <fma243> dr_Willis: where is the grub menu.ist file
[11:33] <gooody> dr_Willis: thanks for the info.
[11:33] <mohkohn> The error was: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf line 11: semicolon expected option domain-name
[11:33] <dr_Willis> - fma243  /boot/grub/ - and be CAREFULL when editing it..
[11:34] <mohkohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489/ is my  /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[11:34] <mohkohn> What am I doing wrong?
[11:34] <dr_Willis> im still not sure how you accidently install ubuntu.. :)
[11:34] <eyeslocal> dayzman-w: do you have your hardy-updates ("Recommended updates") repository enabled?
[11:35] <fma243> well it was a power faliure ubuntu was about 79% complete and there the power failure
[11:35] <fma243> so i installed ubuntu again
[11:35] <pan09232> question how does ubuntu know that when i type in console firefox32 it will load it?
[11:35] <eyeslocal> fma: removing it from grub will just delete it from the boot list, but not really get rid of it. To remove it proper, use synaptic
[11:35] <Mojo_> How do I find out my root password?
[11:35] <ytsestef> which command is the one that brings up the log off menu (shutdown/lock screen/restart etc) ??
[11:35] <dayzman-w> is firefox 3 not available to be installed on gutsy?
[11:35] <fma243> in the grub menu it gives me an option of ubuntu 7.04
[11:35] <dr_Willis> Mojo_,  there is none by default.
[11:36] <dr_Willis> !root | Mojo_
[11:36] <Mojo_> I thought that
[11:36] <Mojo_> ahh
[11:36] <dr_Willis> Mojo_,  your first user is your primary admin/sudo user.
[11:36] <Mojo_> so I just use sudo
[11:36] <eth01> http://duck.brb.dj/eth01/stuff/
[11:36] <eth01> er oppps. :) ignore
[11:36] <dr_Willis> !sudo | Mojo_
[11:36] <eth01> (wrong channel)
[11:36] <Mojo_> it's annoying when I'm on the desktop, and want to unmount things but I'm not a su
[11:36] <Mojo_> !gksu
[11:36] <dr_Willis> Mojo_,  depends on how they are mounted. :)  and what they are.
[11:37] <Mojo_> !info !gksu
[11:37] <Knightly88> Hey anyone know the command to "delete" in the terminal? Like if I want to delete a folder? is it like "sudo unset /myfolder/thisfolder"?
[11:37] <ytsestef> which command brings up the log off menu?
[11:37] <da_yzman-w> is firefox 3 available to be installed on gutsy? does anyone know of a repository containing it?
[11:37] <csk> Knightly88 its rm
[11:37] <csk> so its sudo rm ...
[11:37] <Knightly88> Thanks
[11:38] <dr_Willis> !shell | Knightly88
[11:38] <solrize> to get rid of an entire folder and all its subfolders and contents, use rm -r
[11:38] <solrize> -r means recursive
[11:38] <solrize> rm by itself only gets rid of one file
[11:39] <eyeslocal> da_yzman: you could actually download the bz2 file and install it yourself... it's rather simple
[11:39] <csk> does anyone here know why when i transcode using mediatomb i get this error.."access_output_file private error: cannot open `/tmp//mt_transcode_7U7SDU' (Permission denied)"
[11:39] <Knightly88> Soo.... how do I remove a directory in Terminal? whats the command?
[11:40] <howlingmadhowie> Knightly88: rmdir
[11:40] <howlingmadhowie> Knightly88: but that will only work if the directory is already empty
[11:41] <eyeslocal> grr I hate that annoying flashplayer bug that causes my firefox to crash ... anyone know a fix for it?
[11:41] <Knightly88> How do I remove full directories of files?
[11:41] <Knightly88> in terminal
[11:41] <zhaozhou> Knightly88: rm -rf
[11:41] <Knightly88> Thanks.
[11:41] <pan09232> ho do u move back a folder in terminal?
[11:42] <zhaozhou> Knightly88: be careful though, that wont ask you if it will remove it, it'll just do it.
[11:42] <zhaozhou> pan09232: cd ..
[11:42] <Knightly88> hehe. Thanks.
[11:42] <eyeslocal> da_yzman: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-firefox3tarbz2-linux/
[11:42]  * howlingmadhowie has now got a powermac :)
[11:43] <noz9010> you dont need a powermac to run ubuntu :-)
[11:43] <eramax> i need ur help ,i need to make a folder which refer to another folder as a link but folder to folder ? how that
[11:43] <dr_Willis> eramax,  ln -s folder1 folder2
[11:43] <eramax> ok thanks
[11:43] <dr_Willis> i always get the order backwards
[11:45] <fma243> dr_willis: i want to format my 19 gb(ntfs) hard disk (primary slave) and convert it into a ext3 or fat32 and gparted doesnt support ntfs
[11:45] <dr_Willis> fma243,  you mean 'delete' the ntfs and remake it as ext3? or you want to Save the data on it?
[11:46] <fma243> iwant to delete and make it ext3
[11:46] <howlingmadhowie> noz9010: i know :) but it looks very cool :)
[11:46] <Knightly88> Alright... last question for tonight (hopefully) how do I sudo copy my whole / directory? is there a "super command"? hehe
[11:46] <fma243> any program or command for it
[11:46] <dr_Willis> fma243,   make sure its unmounted. run gpated and delete the partition.. 'supporting ntfs' has nothng to do with it.
[11:46] <dr_Willis> fma243,  then after its deleted remake a new partition, of type ext3
[11:46] <fma243> thanks ill try
[11:47] <pan09232> we can copy whole / directory?
[11:47] <dr_Willis> 'format/convert' = much different from 'make a new' :)
[11:47] <pwizard88> err..does anyone know why gcc-4.3 package does not appear in apt-get (I have enabled all the repositories in the conf file)?
[11:47] <ketamin[e]> howcome when i try to copy a folder it says omitting directory whatever" ?
[11:48] <ketamin[e]> using the cp command
[11:48] <zhaozhou> fma243: Deleting a partition will simply delete all the data in that span and rewrite it with your ext3/fat32 filesystem. In a terminal you can use mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.vfat.
[11:48] <dr_Willis> ketamin[e],  you need to use the -r option, or was it -R....
[11:48] <Knightly88> !commands
[11:49] <dr_Willis> ketamin[e],  you may want to read a few bash/shell beginner guides
[11:49] <ketamin[e]> dr_Willis: it was -r.. thanks :)
[11:50] <karabash> how to install developer tools?
[11:51] <karabash> You know packages of tools
[11:51] <gluer> man some hardy updates stuffed my sound!!! any advice how i should get it back?
[11:51] <dayz_man-w> does anyone know of a repository for gutsy containing firefox 3?
[11:51] <karabash> anjuta doesnt work without it
[11:52] <noz9010> karabash: build-essentials is a start
[11:52] <karabash> oh yes
[11:52] <chronographer> Hi all. Anyone know anything about electricsheep? I want to limit its download speed during the day.
[11:53] <karabash> he wants something like glib
[11:53] <chronographer> Or maybe just block its access tot he internet
[11:53] <karabash> cant find it in repo
[11:53] <noz9010> karabash: apt-cache search glib | grep "if you need more"
[11:53] <chronographer> Can someone walk me through adding electric sheep to UFW (firewall)?
[11:53] <pan09232> electricsheep?
[11:53] <pan09232> wats that?
[11:53] <chronographer> its a screensaver, very pretty
[11:53] <pan09232> oh
[11:54] <dr_Willis> !find electricsheep
[11:54] <fma243> hmm i cant seem to write on the partition
[11:54] <chronographer> http://electricsheep.wikispaces.com/Electric+Sheep+FAQ
[11:54] <pan09232> ufw is firewall?
[11:54] <pan09232> right
[11:54] <pan09232> sudo ufw enable?
[11:54] <dr_Willis> fma243,  well you must run gparted as root. and the partition must not be in use/mounted
[11:54] <chronographer> theres a ppa with the latest version, it downloads hi res fractals using bittorrent while its running, then plays them as a screensaver
[11:54] <karabash> noz9010: ive already install grep but its like wrong package
[11:54] <pan09232> y would there be a sheep?
[11:54] <chronographer> yeah
[11:54] <chronographer> so sudo ufw disable electricsheep???
[11:54] <pan09232> ?
[11:54] <fma243> yea i have turned it into a ext3 but i seem to be unable to write on it
[11:55] <fma243> i cant change its permissions either
[11:55] <chronographer> its a run on the book 'androids dream of electric sheep'
[11:55] <noz9010> karabash: could you pastebin the error message from anjuta?
[11:55] <chronographer> or something
[11:55] <pan09232> hey this is pretty cool
[11:55] <pan09232> electric sheep
[11:55] <sheepminal> yea
[11:55] <karabash> there are no build tools/ just compile which doesnt work
[11:55] <dr_Willis> fma243,  you mean as a user? well a user has no permissions to things thats not owned by him. Make a directyory on the hd. and as root, chown it to be owned by the user in question. is one way
[11:56] <pan09232> wat does ufw have to do with the sheep
[11:56] <karabash> info is in polish so its useless but it says that cant find grep
[11:56] <gluer> im gonna have my bitch! why after installing updates for a stable release can they just destroy my sound capabilities..?
[11:56] <dr_Willis> pan09232,  i think he wants to open a port in the firewall for the program
[11:56] <chronographer> so electric sheep downloads heaps of great screensavers, but I want to limit or shut off its internet access. How can I do this?
[11:56] <pan09232> oh
[11:56] <karabash> geez glib
[11:57] <dr_Willis> chronographer,  not very easially i imagine. :) linux's firewalling dosent work that way.
[11:57] <dr_Willis> chronographer,  the program may have such settings allready
[11:57] <pan09232> ufw is confusing
[11:57] <usicow> I have an ubuntu 7.04 server, whats the safest way to upgrade it to 8.04?
[11:57] <pan09232> i used to use firestarter
[11:57] <chronographer> i looked, limited preferences
[11:57] <dr_Willis> it is?  its just a front end to iptables with a simple comman dline interface
[11:57] <pan09232> do we need firewall?
[11:57] <karabash> noz9010: **error** You must have glib installed
[11:57] <gluer> pan: firestarter is just a front end for iptables...
[11:57] <dr_Willis> !throttle
[11:58] <dr_Willis> I recall some way to limit net access of apps.. but i dont rember the specifics.. if thats all you want to do
[11:58] <karabash> Only compile autogenerate and Execute program are avaiable
[11:58] <chronographer> iptables is a firewall, firestarter is a GUI for it, as is UFW. firestarter locks up my computer at boot if I have it installed
[11:59] <IndoRama> usicow:System -> Admin -> Update manager worked fine for me
[11:59] <chronographer> ok I will go back to google, thanks
[11:59] <noz9010> karabash: apt-cache search glib | grep glib
[11:59] <zoobox> good morning
[12:00] <fr4nk-k> zoobox: good day
[12:00] <schoolinux> Hi, I'm using subversion on ubuntu and I'm getting the "connection reset by peer" error on every svn repo. I try. Can someone help me with this?
[12:01] <rambo123> hello every body,i cant find this file "mod_dav_svn.so" ..
[12:02] <zoobox> in nvidia-glx-new "100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-15.11" (that the udate manager still don't say anything about what have changed and that I should wait til later) it is only 100.14.19 that is the real version number, right?
[12:02] <Lee> is there any way to make icons align to the right of the desktop instead of the left?
[12:03] <d3eniz> heyya all, could use some help again. Iv got cedega file on my computer. "cedega-small-6.0.tgz" how do i install it?!:S
[12:04] <chronographer> tar xzvf cegega-small-6.0.tgz
[12:04] <d3eniz> after i have extracted it?
[12:04] <TTeeLer> hey, does anyone know how i can un-rar one of those downloads that come in loads of seperate rar files?
[12:05] <Lee> hi, is there any way to make the desktop icons align to the right of the screen, instead of the left?
[12:05] <zoobox> I guess I can search with google for that, but do anyone knows a standardplace on the web about the nvidia-glx-new update, now when ubunuts Updatemanager don't do it's work...
[12:05] <bazhang> zoobox, this is gutsy?
[12:05] <noz9010> rambo123: which software are you trying to run?
[12:05] <Jahromeo> !grub
[12:05] <schoolinux> Hi, I'm using subversion on ubuntu and I'm getting the "connection reset by peer" error on every svn repo. I try. Can someone help me with this?
[12:05] <zoobox> bazhang:  uhh... 7.10
[12:06] <zoobox> bazhang: (haven't got time to update to 8.04 yet)
[12:06] <bazhang> zoobox, you installed via restricted drivers manager?
[12:06] <d3eniz> >chronographer after i have untared it then? what's next?
[12:06] <bazhang> d3eniz, is there not a read me file?
[12:06] <zoobox> bazhang: I guess so... it was turned on when I started using 3D -things
[12:07] <d3eniz> cant seem to find anyone
[12:07] <chronographer> read the readme
[12:07] <noz9010> d3eniz: try install file also
[12:07] <d3eniz> i'v been looking for a "how to" but cant seem to find it
[12:07] <chronographer> usually you can 'make' and them 'make install' but its not that simple. What are you installing?
[12:07] <rambo123> noz9010>svn for apache
[12:07] <pwizard88> can anyone tell me what exactly is intrepid in relation to ubuntu repositories ?
[12:08] <tapas> how do i find out whether the ubuntu libglew1.5-dev package has been build with support for multiple rendering contexts?
[12:08] <bazhang> zoobox, check that it is enabled in restricted drivers manager
[12:08] <d3eniz> cedetga
[12:08] <d3eniz> cedega
[12:08] <zoobox> bazhang:  oh.. thunderstorm here. I must quit now
[12:08] <zoobox> I'll be back
[12:08] <tapas> i just ask because i get undefined references for glewContextInit
[12:08] <chronographer> d3eniz: cedega, the whole thing?
[12:08] <d3eniz> ye
[12:08] <bazhang> pwizard88, check #ubuntu+1
[12:09] <bazhang> d3eniz, cedega is payware; they should have support documentation and forums for that
[12:09] <Night_Owl> Question: If I boot off a live CD.. how do I change permissions on files on the hard drive to back them up?
[12:09] <bazhang> Night_Owl, on a linux installation?
[12:10] <zoobox> bazhang: and yes it is enable in restricted drivers manager
[12:10] <chronographer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4428&page=1&pp=20
[12:10] <Night_Owl> Yes - a previous version of Linux.
[12:10] <noz9010> rambo123: have you installed libapache2-svn? also quote with space after my nick, otherwise i get no color highlichting for your response
[12:10] <chronographer> for deneiz
[12:10] <Night_Owl> er, of Ubuntu, rather.
[12:10] <karabash> noz9010: everything worx fine, thx
[12:10] <chronographer> just use wine, its workds pretty well. Follow a howto for installing a particular game
[12:10] <noz9010> karabash: ok, good luck
[12:11] <rambo123> noz9010>just installed it,thanks
[12:11] <d3eniz> not intressted in wine, i'v used it for a couple of products. but dont work with all
[12:11] <bazhang> d3eniz, better to use wine imo; check the appdb for what works.
[12:11] <chronographer> d3eniz:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9473   <---cedega is a pay for version of wine.
[12:11] <noz9010> rambo123: heres how i found it: apt-cache search apache | grep svn
[12:11] <chronographer> do a search, read stuff.
[12:11] <bazhang> d3eniz, this is not support for cedega; they have documents and forums.
[12:11] <Night_Owl> bazhang: Yes, it was a previous version of Ubuntu.
[12:12] <gwark> hi folks
[12:12] <bazhang> Night_Owl, you need to read up on chroot
[12:13] <gwark> how do i see what kinda wireless card i have via terminal ??
[12:13] <kahrytan> How do you reset custom icons?
[12:13] <bazhang> kahrytan, in ubuntu?
[12:13] <HPLHS> anyone know of a good HOWTO about Compiling from Source in ubuntu with the Build Essentils Package downloaded?
[12:13] <kahrytan> bazhang,  Yes
[12:13] <noz9010> !compile | HPLHS
[12:14] <chronographer> !ufw
[12:14] <HPLHS> Thank you
[12:14] <Knightly88> Hey people... So I'm trying to copy my whole Ubuntu / directory to a blank Ubuntu setup on an external hard drive... I can sudo cp to it fine... except for files/folders currently being used... my question is: "how do I: sudo cp -r / /media/mydrive" from the terminal while not using my OS? I can't copy my whole filesystem if I'm using it... but how else can I do it? Thanks.
[12:14] <dflm> hi
[12:14] <chronographer> Knightly88: use a live cd
[12:14] <dflm> is it possible to instqll  on mac os leopard ???
[12:14] <kahrytan> bazhang,  Why did you ask that?
[12:14] <dflm> apt-get ?
[12:14] <dynamethod> Hey there, i just used tar to create an archive using 'tar -cvvf foo.tar /foo', but the difference between the archive and original file in size is only 3mb's, how can i compress the file more?
[12:15] <dynamethod> this file being around 750mb's
[12:15] <bazhang> dflm, install what on mac os leopard
[12:15] <dflm> apt-get
[12:15] <dflm> is it possible ???
[12:15] <DjViper> dynamethod: you cant, it's a binary file, which means it can't be compressed
[12:15] <kahrytan> !info ufw
[12:15] <bazhang> dflm, mac os only is for mac computers; please see ##apple
[12:15] <noz9010> dflm: you want linux software for macos?  i heard of fink packages once
[12:16] <zoobox> Hmm.. I found a webpage saying that nvidia linux display driver Version: 100.14.19 was Release Date: September 18, 2007... why does ubuntu want to start using it now then? allmost a year after?
[12:16] <dflm> yes fink
[12:16] <dflm> fink can't find some package
[12:16] <dynamethod> so say i have a .rar archive full of installers(like mysql etc etc) it cant be compressed any further?
[12:16] <dflm> like gc+++
[12:16] <kahrytan> bazhang,  and hes talking about installing apt on macos i believe.
[12:16] <dflm> etc <<,
[12:16] <bazhang> dflm, that is offtopic here. this is ubuntu support
[12:16] <zeroc> hey there, anybody using dwm?
[12:16] <dflm> ok
[12:16] <dflm> bye
[12:17] <bazhang> dflm, check macports
[12:17] <bazhang> oops
[12:17] <rambo123> noz9010>cool solution for searching in cache,thanks again !
[12:17] <bazhang> kahrytan, you talking about custom themes from gnome-look or other
[12:18] <kahrytan> bazhang, no.
[12:18] <kahrytan> bazhang,  Resetting custom icons that were set on an icon.
[12:19] <bazhang> kahrytan, they are custom, so one would have to reinstall
[12:19] <kahrytan> oh wait. i found it
[12:19] <Night_Owl> bazhang: Am I able to chroot without having to edit files elsewhere - which, because I'm running off a live CD at the moment, I'm not sure I'll be able to do in the first place..?
[12:19] <kahrytan> bazhang,  And i wasnt talking about themes.
[12:20] <dayz_man-w> hi
[12:20] <Chrysalis> how do you all keep track of different commands? sure the basics are easy to remember but there has to be a better way to spending hours at man pages... maybe something like bookmarks etc?
[12:20] <kahrytan> bazhang,  but i figured it out. Clicking revert button in changing icon does the trick
[12:20] <bazhang> Night_Owl, I just man'd chroot and there is a command there to get you going (its a very short read btw)
[12:21] <bazhang> Chrysalis, you break stuff and fix it mostly
[12:21] <bullgard4> How to determine the md5sum of a CD-ROM?
[12:21] <noz9010> Chrysalis: index pages in a unix book
[12:21] <bazhang> bullgard4, you mean an iso
[12:21] <kahrytan> Chrysalis,  wait a moment
[12:21] <molgrum> ok so i removed my nvidia drivers, and rebooted into 2.6.22-14. sure enough my usb mouse works flawlessly here but i cannot see any option to reinstall the nvidia drivers for this kernel?
[12:21] <bullgard4> bazhang: No, I mean the CD-ROM.
[12:22] <Night_Owl> bazhang: OK, as I said I'm running off the live CD.. it's currently in the GUI at the moment since I'm not really familiar with CLI-level.
[12:22] <bullgard4> bazhang: In order to test its integrity.
[12:22] <bazhang> bullgard4, md5 is for the iso not the cd; disk integrity check is for the cd
[12:22] <molgrum> also, i would like to file a bug for the latest ubuntu kernel. where do i do that?
[12:22] <tapas> bullgard4: md5sum /dev/cdrom
[12:22] <tapas> or something
[12:22] <rsk> molgrum: launchpad.net
[12:23] <bazhang> Night_Owl, what you are proposing needs the cli level interaction
[12:23] <bazhang> !bugs | molgrum
[12:23] <kahrytan> Chrysalis, here ya go. http://fosswire.com/2008/04/22/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[12:23] <gluer> my sound doesnt work anymore
[12:23] <gluer> how can i fix it?
[12:23] <zoobox> Hmm... I guess I can allways wait a week and see it the description for nvidia-glx-new shows up.....
[12:23] <kahrytan> Chrysalis,  and the orginal one in article too
[12:23] <molgrum> thanks bazhang
[12:24] <molgrum> just need to figure out how to install nvidia drivers for older kernels now
[12:24] <tapas> bullgard4: maybe with sudo
[12:24] <Zoiks> mounting/ownership has got me confused. Im trying to mount a raid that I setup somewhere. 1st I dont know where to put it. 2nd whenever I try and put it somewhere I cant copy to it because i dont have permissions to the damn folder I just setup and 3rd I have no idea on what options I should include in my fstab.
[12:24] <bazhang> zoobox, if you upgrade to hardy there is envyng-gtk to install all the latest drivers for ati and nvidia (it is in ubuntu repos)
[12:24] <Night_Owl> bazhang: I'm aware of that. I just wasn't expecting to have to modify permissions for files I made on my own machine.. but then again, the Live disc doesn't realize it's mine, of course.. lol
[12:24] <zoobox> bazhang: aha
[12:25] <bazhang> Night_Owl, can you not boot into the install itself and do it via cli that way
[12:25] <zoobox> hardy is 8.04, right?
[12:25] <bazhang> zoobox, aye
[12:26] <zoobox> can I upgrade to that without it changing visual things... I like the default 7.10 background etc...
[12:26] <bazhang> zoobox, the wallpaper and such? no reason you cant save those and then put them into hardy wallpaper folder
[12:27] <erUSUL> !fstab | Zoiks
[12:27] <octan21> hi, i am looking for some support to make a wireless card work over an ubuntu system, i have tried tons of things and followed FAQs, does anybody have the time to help me please?
[12:27] <bullgard4> tapas: The process Md5sum is running. How long does the command md5sum /dev/cdrom take to finish?
[12:27] <bullgard4> tapas: The process md5sum is running. How long does the command md5sum /dev/cdrom take to finish?
[12:28] <Night_Owl> bazhang: The one that's currently installed, you mean, ie not the CD? Probably.. but I'm trying to back them up on to a USB key and I don't know how to allow the system to read a USB key.
[12:28] <bazhang> octan21, what chipset (lspci in terminal will tell you)
[12:28] <octan21> intel 2200
[12:28] <zoobox> ok I should save the default background (and default colorsettings, windowborderstyle and things?) first before upgrading then,..
[12:28] <bazhang> octan21, that should work right out of the box; what version of ubuntu
[12:28] <octan21> 8.04
[12:28] <octan21> it´s an HP laptop
[12:29] <octan21> the wireless is detectd but in iwconfig appears as unassociated
[12:29] <bazhang> zoobox, the new hardy is not that different in that respect, best to run a livecd and see what is different (ie you dont like) and save those from gutsy
[12:29] <zoobox> ok
[12:29] <bazhang> octan21, you have a wifi hotspot to test on?
[12:30] <octan21> what do you mean with a hotspot? a differnet wireless AP?
[12:30] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I just booted Ubuntu in livecd mode, played around with it for a bit, and now when I boot, my laptop tells me that "the battery cannot be identified"
[12:30] <bazhang> octan21, any one will do
[12:30] <InsomniaCity`> is this a known issue at all?
[12:30] <Chrysalis> kahrytan: just that one pdf page? its also missing the apt-get -u upgrade which i would recommend, i was sorta hoping for something more complete or maybe a terminal with bookmarks etc
[12:30] <octan21> i am sorry but i don´t understand , bazhang
[12:30] <carlyn> I'm trying to understand, not just use configure, make, make install
[12:30] <bain> hi, can somebody help me quickly with a NFS setup, I've setup the server with /file <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_root_squash,async) on the server side but when I connect via client on network I get permission denied on chaning, uid of user is same on both machiens and user has write access on server
[12:30] <bazhang> Night_Owl, your system cannot see a usb key?
[12:31] <idefine> ati or nvidia? which do you think is better supported? will sli or crossfire be a problem?
[12:31] <bazhang> octan21, try sudo dhclient wlan0
[12:31] <octan21> i am trying to connect to my ADSL using  the wireless AP
[12:31] <octan21> the device is eth1
[12:31] <octan21> but it not works anyway
[12:31] <octan21> no dhcp offers are received...
[12:31] <bazhang> then sudo dhclient eth1 octan21
[12:32] <joshu> idefine: No support for crossfire in linux yet. SLI wont be a problem, but you'll not gain _alot_. Not near what you gain in windows, that is.
[12:32] <bazhang> octan21, you know how to associate the card with the ap?
[12:32] <octan21> no
[12:32] <bazhang> octan21, let me get you a link
[12:32] <octan21> ok, thanks
[12:32] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 octan21
[12:32] <idefine> zhaozhou: all i really need to do is hook up 4 monitors and do some compiz action.
[12:33] <Night_Owl> bazhang: I know it does if I plug it into a GUI setup.. I have no clue at CLI level though.
[12:33] <fawqu> does anybody know the name of the application on the right side of the picture? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73210&file1=73210-1.jpg&file2=73210-2.jpg&file3=73210-3.jpg&name=Slickness+Black
[12:33] <zhaozhou> idefine: If you run with one x-server, as in one long desktop, you could use one card and get one of those splitters.
[12:33] <bazhang> Night_Owl, how much stuff (in # of GB) do you have to backup?
[12:33] <kahrytan> Chrysalis,  then add it.
[12:33] <octan21> don´t know if this will help but if i do an iwconfig i see that the AP ssid is detected, the frequency appesrs, the AP adress appearts but it keeps saying UNASSOCIATE (it asks me for the WEP key anyway)
[12:33] <octan21> could it be a WEP issue?
[12:34] <idefine> zhaozhou: what splitters? you can do that?
[12:34] <Night_Owl> bazhang: Less than a gig.. it could probably fit on a CD if I had any around.
[12:34] <bazhang> octan21, you might try with it open to test first of all, then add wep next
[12:34] <zhaozhou> idefine: One DVI -> 2 DVI. One some videocards they actually send one->four dvi-splitter.
[12:34] <zhaozhou> idefine: but you'll have to use one, long desktop. Don't know what the name of that is.
[12:35] <esay> try Pardus 2008
[12:35] <bazhang> Night_Owl, sudo cp then to the usb key
[12:35] <bazhang> esay wrong channel
[12:35] <octan21> it did not work with open before, i sa a bug with open wireless and this is the reason i am using WEP
[12:35] <cgentry72> my internet at home hates myspace its slow but at work it is really fast what would cause this?
[12:35] <octan21> i am following the doc you pointed me to
[12:35] <idefine> zhaozhou: i thought they clone to two screens, not extend
[12:36] <bazhang> cgentry72, that is pretty bare bones info, could you clarify
[12:36] <idefine> zhaozhou: oh, man, that would be awesome, if you remember what they're called please let me know
[12:36] <b23> cgentry72: i had the same problem it was the router
[12:36] <cgentry72> b23, how did you fix it?
[12:37] <abchirk> Which program I should use for a Nokia handy? to sync and else..
[12:37] <bazhang> abchirk, what is a handy
[12:37] <b23> cgentry72: i bought a new one, netgear you have?
[12:37] <abchirk> hm thats a German word. :P mobilephone. :P
[12:38] <bazhang> abchirk, via bluetooth?
[12:38] <cgentry72> b23, no it is one provided by tel company
[12:38] <abchirk> Its a Nokia 6*** I don't know exactly which type
[12:38] <abchirk> bazhang usb
[12:38] <cgentry72> b23, 2wire
[12:38] <xubuntuuser> how can you edit the system menu?
[12:39] <abchirk> Right  click on it
[12:39] <b23> cgentry72: no idea sorry myspace is not the best html site on the net :)
[12:39] <bazhang> xubuntuuser, in gnome or xfce
[12:39] <zhaozhou> idefine: Sir, yes, sir.  You could check it out, could get you a thread to follow.
[12:39] <octan21> Bazhang, i followed the lin you pointed me to, the dhclient does not receive any offer
[12:39] <areels> how can i make a space ship to go for searching alien life forms?
[12:40] <bazhang> octan21, you associated the nic with the ap?
[12:40] <bazhang> areels, interesting question but offtopic here
[12:40] <sco02> Got a question regarding AD integration using Likewise and local user management. Is there a way to give a domain user local rights without having to edit /etc/group?
[12:40] <octan21> iwconfig says unassociated
[12:40] <xubuntuuser> bazhang xfce
[12:40] <octan21> i did the terminal stuff for wep...
[12:40] <bazhang> octan21, what command did you try to associate it
[12:41] <HPLHS> !bash
[12:41] <pkcahier> -!- No results found
[12:41] <octan21> sudo ifconfig <interface> down
[12:41] <octan21> sudo dhclient -r <interface>
[12:41] <octan21> sudo ifconfig <interface> up
[12:41] <octan21> sudo iwconfig <interface> essid "ESSID_IN_QUOTES"
[12:41] <octan21> sudo iwconfig <interface> key HEX_KEY <<<-------- If using ASCII Equivalent, this is s:ASCII_KEY (please make note of the prefix s:)
[12:41] <octan21> ****Additional Comand that may be needed  -- sudo iwconfig <interface> key open  <<<----See note below
[12:41] <octan21> sudo iwconfig <interface> mode Managed
[12:41] <FloodBot1> octan21: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <zhaozhou> Huh.
[12:42] <zhaozhou> Bash != gnome-terminal.
[12:42] <J2> can anyone teach me how to install a file like this? http://www.rainslick.com/
[12:42] <octan21> iwconfig eth1 essid "xxxx" , this is what i did
[12:42] <J2> its not a deb file so im kinda lost
[12:42] <LeeJarratt> Hello
[12:42] <Isherwood> exit
[12:42] <LeeJarratt> Is this the official Ubuntu IRC Channel?
[12:42] <zhaozhou> LeeJarratt: Yes.
[12:42] <danbhfive> LeeJarratt: is the official Ubuntu support channel
[12:42] <PriceChild> !bash
[12:43] <LeeJarratt> Ah okay, thank you
[12:43] <pkcahier> -!- No results found
[12:43] <PriceChild> !testy
[12:43] <ompaul> !bash2
[12:43] <noz9010> J2: download and click on it in nautilus
[12:43] <mysterycool> Hey
[12:43] <LeeJarratt> Hello
[12:43] <mysterycool> I have unrar-free, how do I unrar?
[12:43] <bazhang> !test
[12:43] <rsk> mysterycool: unrar x file
[12:44] <yfk> is there a way to bun an avi file on a dvd as a video dvd using brasero?
[12:44] <bazhang> yfk, try devede
[12:44] <LeeJarratt> Is anyone using Alpha 1 of Intrepid Ibex?
[12:45] <octan21> any idea for my damn wireless? ;-)
[12:45] <idefine> zhaozhou: i don't believe it's possible, from everything i'm reading online
[12:45] <idefine> zhaozhou: you will need 2 graphic cards or 2 outs.
[12:45] <mysterycool> I have unrar-free, how do I unrar?
[12:45] <orphean> LeeJarratt: #ubuntu+1 will have people using it.
[12:45] <rsk> mysterycool: listen to mme?
[12:45] <mysterycool> rsk: yes
[12:45] <mysterycool> did not work
[12:45] <LeeJarratt> Ah right, cheers dude
[12:46] <rsk> ok
[12:46] <rsk> what was the output
[12:46] <e-jat> mysterycool, unrar e file.rar
[12:46] <mysterycool> The program 'unrar' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:46] <KFC> std output
[12:47] <e-jat> sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:47] <rsk> heh
[12:47] <rsk> so not obvious?
[12:48] <zhaozhou> idefine: I'm 100% sure you can, i've seen it myself.
[12:48] <zhaozhou> idefine: Don't have the time to look now though, i'll get back to you on that.
[12:48] <idefine> zhaozhou: hmm, ok, please do, that would be a lifesaver for me
[12:48] <xubuntuuser> how can i edit in xfce the system menu?
[12:49] <octan21> does anybody knows how to see why a wireless is unable to associate to an AP?
[12:50] <J2> guys can anyone help me execute this? i downloaded the .tgz file but dunno what to do with it now. http://www.rainslick.com/
[12:51] <RonLut> I accidently removed my open programs from the panel in the upper side of the screen.... how do I add it back?
[12:51] <xubuntuuser> J2 what files are in the tgz?
[12:52] <yfk> bazhang: thanks
[12:52] <noz9010> !tar | J2
[12:52] <RonLut> The thing that shows the running programs..
[12:52] <LeeJarratt> I keep getting amd display drivers in my updates
[12:52] <LeeJarratt> I use intel integrated graphics
[12:52] <J2> xubntuuser - nvm i just got it working. kinda hidden executable
[12:52] <J2> thx anyway ^_^
[12:52] <idefine> J2: in the console do the following to extrac the file: tar -xzvf file.tgz
[12:53] <carlyn_>  I installed gnu classpath via synaptic and now I want to install a newer version locally in my home directory... how can I do this and keep the 2 versions straight
[12:54] <carlyn_> noz9010: do you understand install?
[12:54] <RonLut> no one knows how to fix it?
[12:56] <noz9010> carlyn_: why do you need two versions of claspath?
[12:56] <carlyn_> noz9010: at this point I settle for the latest I need to install - for another package that needs it.
[12:57] <carlyn_> noz9010: But I want to understand install  - I have seem to have problems everytime I use it.
[12:58] <CaptainSalty> Anyone here know about the Wubi project
[12:59] <magnetron> !wubi | CaptainSalty
[12:59] <noz9010> !ask | CaptainSalty
[13:00] <CaptainSalty> Is there a project/program that can install another OS like Wubi does (I am trying to make a quad boot system with Windows 98, 2000, XP and Ubuntu) and if I can do that for the 98 and 2000 partitions as well, that would be awesome
[13:00] <carlyn_>  noz9010: If you answered - I was disconnected without asking for some reason.
[13:01] <Nimblefinger> can anyone explain exactly what apt-get does, specifically things like where it searches for the package you tell it to install?
[13:01] <Nimblefinger> !apt-get
[13:01] <Nimblefinger> ahh...should perhaps have thought of that before.
[13:01] <danbhfive> CaptainSalty: wubi doesnt do that.  It install Ubuntu on a windows partition, without having to create separate partitions
[13:01] <CaptainSalty> yeah, I know
[13:01] <Serdar> hi, I am looking for a vmplayer package, but there is no one in the package management
[13:02] <CaptainSalty> I want to install multiple OS's on one computer, and if I don't have to deal with partitioning, that would make life so much easier
[13:02] <danbhfive> CaptainSalty: I think a vm is your only option, like virtualbox
[13:03] <noz9010> Serdar: you can safely use the installer from vmware HQ
[13:03] <skillet> virtualbox ftw!
[13:03] <CaptainSalty> yeah, but VM won't do what I need.   My Retro box is for gaming, and 3d virtualization is not there
[13:03] <carlyn_> CaptainSalty: This helped me http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm
[13:04] <danbhfive> CaptainSalty: then I think you are going to have to partition.    I think Wubi would get alot of attention if it was seporated into an individual project :-D
[13:05] <eth01> skillet: just compiling a new version :-)
[13:06] <skillet> new version?!
[13:06] <CaptainSalty> I have done partitoning before when I dual booted fedora and XP way back at version 4
[13:06] <eth01> yes. check the download repo in the next 24 hours or so.
[13:06] <eth01> sunsystems have to manually verify it afaik
[13:07] <eth01> (as thats now the main mirror for downloading contrib)
[13:07] <skillet> eth01, i run virtualbox from my windows machine
[13:07] <unop> CaptainSalty, it's much easier using vmware or something like it - that way, you always have your primary OS online and you can boot the other OSes without having to go offline
[13:08] <CaptainSalty> thanks anyway guys, it's kinda dissapointing, but hopefully it will seporate into a different project eventually
[13:08] <eth01> skillet: ;)
[13:08] <CaptainSalty> but unop, I need 3d capabilities, and no VM project supports it natively
[13:09] <eth01> CaptainSalty: virtualbox will
[13:09] <skillet> i wodner how virtualbox will run inside a virtualbox vm
[13:09] <carlyn_> If you do an ./configure --prefix=whatever are you stuck with it forever?
[13:09] <skillet> hrmm
[13:09] <eth01> skillet: not possible.
[13:10] <skillet> how so
[13:10] <eth01> it's possible with expensive hardware which you won't be able to afford :-)
[13:10] <unop> carlyn_, not really, but it makes uninstallation of that package quite messy - not advisable
[13:10] <carlyn_> CaptainSalty: What Windows? XP or Vista?
[13:10] <chrisj> Is GNU gettext thread safe? Documentation at gnu.org says no but the configure has some flag "--enable-threads={posix|solaris|pth|win32}". I did not have the time yet to dig through the source; what I want is to use gettext in a multi threaded web server with different locales at the same time.
[13:10]  * skillet has the DoD budget behind him.... he does what he wants!
[13:11] <carlyn_> unop: I did a sudo make uninstall - but seem to be stuck with it
[13:11] <eth01> what, intel quad core, 32g ddr3 heh.
[13:11] <noz9010> chrisj: try a devel channel. ubuntu wiki has a page with a channel list
[13:11] <carlyn_> unop: test -z "/usr/local/classpath/lib/classpath" || mkdir -p -- "/usr/local/classpath/lib/classpath"
[13:11] <carlyn_>  /bin/bash ../../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c  'libjawt.la' '/usr/local/classpath/lib/classpath/libjawt.la'
[13:11] <carlyn_> libtool: install: error: cannot install `libjawt.la' to a directory not ending in /home/carlyn/local/lib/classpath
[13:12] <chrisj> noz9010: thanks
[13:12] <noz9010> carlyn_: why do you need two versions of classpath?
[13:13] <raboof> to report back: i can now leave the files on my usb drive open while hibernating
[13:13] <carlyn_> noz9010: javac is jikes with classpath and then I need the current classpath....
[13:13] <Easynic> Can anyone tell me whereabout on the main drive WINE places the "virtual" c drive by default?
[13:13] <carlyn_> noz9010: but I would be happy to override the installed classpath if allowed...
[13:13] <CaptainSalty> carlyn, I want to have XP, 2000, 98 and Ubuntu on the same machine, with XP as the main, and it does not have the hardware for virtualization
[13:13] <unop> Easynic, ~/.wine/c_drive
[13:13] <noz9010> raboof: cool, i was user__ once
[13:13] <raboof> did it by serving/mounting the usb drive though samba, and modifying the suspend/resume scripts to shut down samba and unmount the usb drive when suspending
[13:14] <Easynic> unop: Thank you
[13:14] <carlyn_> noz9010: but I did a sudo make uninstall ... then ./configure with no prefix ... make worked fine.. sudo make install acts like I used prefix
[13:14] <raboof> when resuming i mount the drive and restart samba, and continue working
[13:15] <chrisj> noz9010: ubuntu-devel says it's not for application developers :-/ ... In #gnu there is nothing going on right now. Do you happen to remember that wiki page?
[13:15] <noz9010> carlyn_: uh, sounds quite deep into the hood to me, you might try another channel in paralell. java classpath like this
[13:15] <raboof> noz9010: ah, thanks for the feedback earlier then ;)
[13:15] <EverettgM1819> i have a question, what ubuntu linux dist. should i use if my computer has a pentium 2 and only 10GB hd
[13:15] <xubuntuuser> is there anybody who can tell me how to edit the system menu in xfce
[13:15] <unop> carlyn_, you could install the other version of classpath in a chrooted environment
[13:15] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, what's the clock speed on the pentium 2? How much RAM?
[13:16] <unop> EverettgM1819, xubuntu most likely
[13:16] <carlyn_> unop: what is a "chrooted environment"?
[13:16] <DRebellion> xubuntuuser, perhaps ask in #xubuntu
[13:16] <witakr> hello folks
[13:16] <noz9010> chrisj: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&as_qdr=all&q=ubuntu+irc+channels&btnG=Suche&meta=
[13:16] <EverettgM1819> uhhhh, i really dont know, and it has 376.6 MB ram
[13:16] <witakr> how do i burn an image (iso) to my DVD-R?
[13:16] <DRebellion> !burning | witakr
[13:16] <zverj> hello. i have failed raid disc with filesystem type "linux raid autodetect". how can i mount that partition on another machine?
[13:16] <EverettgM1819> i think it was like 3oo something MHz
[13:17] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, go for xubuntu
[13:17] <witakr> thanks DRebellion
[13:17] <vamushka> witakr:  just use brasero and use the burn image to dvd option
[13:17] <xubuntuuser> EverettgM1819: xubuntu uses not much system ressurces... it's quite quick
[13:17] <unop> carlyn_, a chroot is like a contained directory, with it's own root (/) where you can have another installation of linux and a whole different set of packages
[13:17] <noz9010> raboof: your using coda now?
[13:17] <EverettgM1819> thanx because my other computers mother board died on me so now i'm stuck with a stoneage computer
[13:17] <EverettgM1819> ok, is xubuntu reliable
[13:18] <unop> !chroot | carlyn_
[13:18] <balbir97> how to configure dialup modem in ubuntu, I am using soft-modem
[13:18] <EverettgM1819> is it like ubuntu, cuz that is what im usin and ubuntu is slow but i like everything about it
[13:18] <mado> hi guys - can you help me please? ...
[13:18] <noz9010> !modem | balbir97 this could get you started..
[13:19] <sheepminal> !ask | mado
[13:19] <mado> my firefox doesn't show me the space where the "X"-button, the name and such stuff should be
[13:19] <unop> EverettgM1819, xubuntu is ubuntu - only it does not use gnome as the desktop environement, it uses xfce - which tends to be lighter on system resources
[13:19] <minion35> hi how can i set up my svideo connection with ubuntu
[13:19] <mado> sheepminal, sorry ... i pressed "enter" to quickly :)
[13:19] <mado> can anyone please help me?
[13:20] <xubuntuuser> EverettgM1819: xubuntu's xfce con look like gnome or like kde - you can configure it in many ways.
[13:20] <EverettgM1819> unop: thanx, is it also 8.04, and does it get updates regularly
[13:20] <carlyn_> unop: I found https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-chroot.html but that confuses me more
[13:21] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, yes and yes
[13:21] <unop> EverettgM1819, yes, yes, yes - it is a mainstream ubuntu flavour, just done differently
[13:21] <noz9010> mado: you have firefox without a header border?
[13:21] <mado> i don't know what it is called but ...
[13:21] <mado> just a sec please
[13:21] <danidfg> any1 help?
[13:21] <EverettgM1819> k thanx everyone, and one more question, does that have to be downloaded or can i get a live cd ordered?
[13:22] <areels> why i cant change keyboard layout? it stucked on english keyboard
[13:22] <Easynic> Ok, perhaps someone can help, I installed foobar under wine and everthing is fine - however, i now want to add the APE dll to play ape files but have no idea how to do this. Anyone help
[13:22] <danidfg> wireless isp settings
[13:22] <DRebellion> !shipit | EverettgM1819
[13:22] <carlyn_> unop: Is ubuntu so different to other Linux versions?  setting prefix and path are not an option with ubuntu?
[13:22] <areels> no matter what layout i select
[13:22] <noz9010> Easynic: both is possible
[13:22] <areels> always stuck with engish
[13:22] <DRebellion> ubottu, hmm, don't know if they ship xubuntu...
[13:22] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, , hmm, don't know if they ship xubuntu...
[13:22] <noz9010> Easynic: sorry, wrong nick
[13:22] <unop> carlyn_, not at all - it just appears that classpath does not like being installed to a different prefix
[13:22] <balbir97> is there a way I can use my mouse in ctrl+alt+F1 to F6, in shell prompt without gui
[13:23] <DRebellion> balbir97, I do remember being able to do that in fedora, perhaps google their system?
[13:23] <unop> EverettgM1819, you ca
[13:23] <minion35> i need some help using an svideo connection with ubuntu.
[13:23] <unop> EverettgM1819, oops, download the cd, it's not much different to the regular live CD
[13:23] <noz9010> balbir97: yes, hold on
[13:23] <balbir97> ok, thanks :)
[13:23] <mado> hypn0, told me now noz9010 ... F11 was the key!
[13:23] <EverettgM1819> oh it is different a little bit, whats different?
[13:23] <mado> sorry for the panic
[13:23] <carlyn_> unop: Then how do I check what I have set as a prefix? and how can I unset the prefix?
[13:24] <hugh> hi
[13:24] <unop> EverettgM1819, what i mean is, you download the xubuntu .ISO - and burn it like you would do with a regular ISO
[13:24] <Gohanx3> hi, how do you make this change permanent?  sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove <-- everytime I reboot its restored back to normal
[13:25] <EverettgM1819> oh ok jus making sure ok thanx everyone for the help ttyl
[13:25] <noz9010> balbir97: i think its gpm
[13:25] <unop> carlyn_, usually, to ./configure, you pass --prefix=/path/to/whatever  -- but you might have to do more, check the options to configure.   ./configure --help
[13:26] <balbir97> noz9010: ok I am trying to install it
[13:26] <Be1> HI GUYS! im running 8.04. I have a nVidia 7950GT which supports OpenGL 2.0. I have the latest restricted driver. yet my pc does not seem to have the libraries for OpenGL 2.0. could you please advise if there are any libs available and if so where I can find them. Ta, Ben
[13:26] <areels> why i cant change keyboard layout? it stucked on english keyboard
[13:27] <danbhfive> Be1: curious, how do you know you dont have the libraries?
[13:27] <carlyn_> unop: But afterwards ... how can you check what the prefix is actually set to? After make uninstall I don't understand why its wanting an old prefix
[13:27] <noz9010> areels: you can add a second layout and also activate it with the tick field
[13:27] <unop> carlyn_, you need to specify the prefix to the uninstall target because by default, it assumes, you have installed classpath to the default regular location, but you havent
[13:29] <Be1> danbhfive: I have just tried to install Cinelerra - a video editing app. at compilation it refused to compile with opengl enabled
[13:30] <Be1> danbhfive: it said I was missing the libs
[13:30] <Moes> Need help with error "undefined video mode"
[13:30] <balbir97> noz9010: you are right, gpm solves my query, thank you :)
[13:31] <carlyn_> unop: Thanks - I going to try to uninstall every classpath and start over... but I think I hearing - remember your prefix, there is no variable to check?
[13:32] <legend2440> Moes: http://blog.edirectories.info/2008/04/how-to-fix-undefined-video-mode-number-in-ubuntu/
[13:33] <unop> carlyn_, that would be correct, there is no way of telling afterwards what the prefix was you used -- which is why i suggest you use a chroot to install the other version of classpath to, that way, you can use the default prefix
[13:33] <noz9010> Be1: apt-cache search opengl gives you a long list for narrowing down the issue more
[13:33] <noz9010> Be1: "apt-cache search opengl" gives you a long list for narrowing down the issue more
[13:34] <monka> hiz
[13:34] <monka> so im a newb getting ubuntu
[13:34] <monka> but im not sure which one to get
[13:34] <noz9010> unop: isnt there something like configure.log written?
[13:34] <monka> my comp runs a 32 bit
[13:34] <monka> but it has a intel cpu
[13:34] <Leefmc> Question: Is there a way to get info on a package _before_ using apt-get install ___?
[13:34] <noz9010> monka: taka i686
[13:34] <perlsyntax> has anyone use the psh shell at all?
[13:34] <noz9010> s/taka/take
[13:34] <unop> carlyn_, think of a chroot as a seperate room in your house - with it's own kitchen, living-room, spare-room, etc -- a house within a house - what you do inside the room makes little impact on the rest of the house
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> monka Welcome.. if you have a question , just ask all on one line as complete as possible and avoid the 3 to 5 word sentences
[13:35] <Leefmc> Like version, etc.
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> monka many intell chips are 32 bit
[13:35] <Sergeant_Pony> How come on my bottom task bar I have it set to auto expand and on a reboot it defaults to the top?
[13:35] <carlyn_> unop: what's the difference between mark for removal and mark for complete removal? (search in help didnt help)
[13:36] <unop> noz9010, not usually, but that doesn't stop a ./configure script being able to log actions to a file  -- in either case, the source directory or other remnants don't usually stay on after the build process, they are deleted
[13:36] <Nicke_> carlyn_: The complete removal also removes any associated configuration files and things like that
[13:36] <unop> carlyn_, in the former, only the package's contents are deleted, in the latter, the configuration files are also removed
[13:36] <monka> so if my intel chip (intel cebrino duo) is 32 bit i should get the standard ubuntu?
[13:36] <monka> centrino*
[13:36] <noz9010> monka: yes
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> monka In fact, we strongly suggest new users run 32 bit even if they have a 64 bit system until they get a feel for how things work.  If you have more than 4 gigs of ram and really need to use it is about the only reason to run 64 bit for now
[13:36] <monka> ok
[13:36] <chrisj> noz9010: couldn't find any appropriate channel :-/
[13:36] <monka> thanks a lot =)
[13:36] <Nicke_> carlyn_: So if you only "remove" the package, and later reinstalls it, the config will be the same
[13:37] <noz9010> monka: good luck
[13:37] <Moes> Legend2440:: I have tried that blog info normal eliminates the script but then it also eliminates some entries in startup manager
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:37] <gnudoc> i'm trying to use sed in a bash script to read to the nth line of a file: sed -n 'LINENUM{p;q;}' FILENUM. But i can't find a way to use a variable as the line number, any suggestions?
[13:37] <carlyn_> unop: and Nicke thanks - so I want a complete removal at this one
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gnudoc /join #bash
[13:37] <dynamethod> Is there something similar to MySQL workbench for linux?
[13:38] <gnudoc> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:38] <noz9010> chrisj: hmm, too bad. maybe read the docu again or browse maillist archive..
[13:38] <unop> gnudoc, single quotes don't interpolate variables
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gnudoc there is a good book on bash available in our repos
[13:38] <noz9010> chrisj: or search other projects build files and check their build switches. koders.com
[13:39] <unop> gnudoc, sed -n "$LINENUM.." file
[13:39] <Nathan406> Hello!!
[13:39] <legend2440> Moes: what entries does it eliminate?   what was vga=  set to before you changed it?
[13:39] <gnudoc> unop: thanks
[13:39] <Nathan406> it's 7:40 am in Jamaica