[10:56] <fwucvlwfmpfp> this is DINGUS with ATI VIDEO problem Kase anybody cares: if you're using 12.10 with encrypt+LVM and have certain hardware components which require special commands at boot you may need to modify GRUB or download a few extra SOURCE pkgs (also it helps if you pull your head outta your kester....) toodles ;-P
[11:05] <mac> hello.. what is the packet name for OpenGL 1.2+
[11:05] <mac> ubuntu software center, 12.04 lts
[11:07] <mac> those ubuntu 12.04 lts have openGL installed by default?
[11:13] <joppe_> I've connected a phone to my server but I can't figure out how to find what port its connected to.. ive looked thro dmesg and I can see its connected with lsusb.. its probarbly like /dev/ttyUSB0 but nothing displays.. where to look?
[11:13] <histo> mac: what language are you using
[11:14] <histo> joppe_: connected how?
[11:14] <histo> joppe_: if it's connected via usb lsusb would show you which port
[11:16] <joppe_> histo: usb chord
[11:16] <joppe_> histo: lsusb doesnt
[11:16] <joppe_> histo: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 067b:2303
[11:17] <histo> joppe_: yes
[11:17] <histo> joppe_: That is the port what are you looking for?
[11:17] <shmoon> what is this <IP_ADDRESS> ip related to ?
[11:17] <joppe_> histo: but what is that in /dev/ttyUSB?
[11:17] <Capprentice> shmoon, its the google dns
[11:17] <shmoon> oh got it thanks
[11:17] <histo> joppe_: check dmesg
[11:18] <joppe_> histo: did that already I said ;/
[11:26] <mac> my language aint important.. is OpenGL installed on 12.04 lts ? example: live usb
[11:26] <loxs> how can I install proprietary drivers via the terminal?  I mean, I want to do exactly the same that the graphical "Updates and software" application does.
[11:26] <mac> histo
[11:27] <qknight> my server tells me on login that there are 6 security upgrades but apt-get upgrade -s shows that it will not upgrade anything, what could cause this?
[11:28] <qknight> *** Neustart des Systems erforderlich *** <- oh, vielleicht deswegen ;-)
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> qknight  try apt-get update, first
[11:29] <Myrtti> qknight: what does apt-get dist-upgrade say then
[11:29] <mac> is OpenGL installed on ubuntu 12.04 lts ? example: fresh install from live usb
[11:30] <mac> can please someone tell me, if it is OpenGL installed on ubuntu 12.04 lts ? example: fresh install from live usb .. is there openGL allready installed?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> mac  guess so, as there are some opengl screensavers
[11:32] <mac> thank u, MonkeyDust...
[11:32] <mac> now.. i dont get it... minecraft says i need openGL 1.2+
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> mac  just read something about installing minecraft, moment
[11:33] <Ben64> mac: you need java and 3d capable video card drivers
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> oops, not minecraft, something diferent with mine, for server
[11:34] <mac> i did.. a study over it.. does not work for me on virtual (xp, xp pro, ubuntu/ubuntu shell, ubuntu/gnome shell.. :( pissed..
[11:35] <mac> ben64, how to get those?
[11:35] <histo> mac: What video card do you have?
[11:35] <Ben64> mac: 3d is not easy to get working in a VM
[11:35] <histo> mac: oh this is in a VM?
[11:35] <qknight> MonkeyDust: i did apt-get update first ;-)
[11:36] <qknight> Myrtti: apt-get dist-upgrade wants to update the kernel with 3 packages
[11:36] <mac> dont know... i use laptop HP Compaq 6710b
[11:36] <qknight> Myrtti: no it is 6 packages ;-)
[11:36] <Myrtti> mac: so it is a virtual machine then? which kind?
[11:36] <Myrtti> qknight: there you have it then.
[11:36] <qknight> Myrtti: thanks!
[11:37] <histo> mac: Are you using a virtual machine right now to run ubuntu?
[11:37] <mac> i dont care where it is, how it is... just, please, help me to fix...  oracle ? Vm box manager
[11:37] <mac> nope
[11:37] <qknight> Myrtti: do i have to reboot after this kernel update -> linux-image-generic-pae (<IP_ADDRESS>.48) wird eingerichtet ...
[11:37] <histo> mac: Why are you trying to run minecraft in virtual box?
[11:37] <mac> ubuntu is on external usb hd
[11:37] <mac> cuz it aint working normaly?
[11:38] <histo> mac: You just need to install java and proper video drivers
[11:38] <Myrtti> qknight: if you want to use it
[11:38] <Ben64> mac: run it on whatever OS you have running natively
[11:38] <histo> mac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5558/how-can-i-install-minecraft#5565
[11:38] <mac> i have java... 7
[11:38] <qknight> Myrtti: yes i think i have to since it was reported as a security upgrade i guess, is that not right?
[11:38] <mac> thats ubuntu
[11:38] <Ben64> mac: java os? doesn't exist
[11:39] <histo> mac: please paste the output of lspci
[11:39] <histo> !paste | mac
[11:39] <mac> i have java.. not sure over drivers.. i use ubuntu allways.. only shity xp is in help, when linux dies
[11:40] <histo> mac: if you paste the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com we can help you with proper video drivers
[11:40] <mac> wip....
[11:40] <histo> mac: or go to system settings > hardware  if on 12.10 go to system settings > software sources > hardware tab
[11:41] <mac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704449/
[11:41] <histo> mac: also if all you use is ubuntu why are you booting it off of usb?
[11:41] <mac> there u go
[11:41] <pankaj> guys ! problem with PPPoE internet connection
[11:41] <Ben64> mac: when you start your computer, does windows start up?
[11:41] <pankaj> guys ! problem with PPPoE internet connection
[11:41] <mac> cuz.. i dont have a computer...
[11:41] <mac> i visit people.. and i need my.. "home " with me
[11:41] <Ben64> pankaj: yeah we saw you, wait more than 8 seconds before repeating. like maybe 15 minutes
[11:41] <Ben64> mac: laptop is a computer, don't be difficult
[11:42] <mac> if i told grub to boot from first hd.. yes
[11:42] <Ben64> i give up
[11:42] <histo> mac: You have java installed?
[11:42] <mac> hold on.. brb
[11:43] <histo> mac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48468/how-do-i-install-java
[11:43] <histo> !details | pankaj
[11:43] <mac> stop!!!!!
[11:43] <histo> mac: stop what?
[11:44] <mac> open JDK Java! 7 Runtime, 6 Runtime, IcedTea Java web Start... if i say brb, dont write please... i get lost
[11:45] <mac> ben64, i know it is i use it.. :)
[11:45] <mac> histo, please continue
[11:46] <mac> IcedTea Java Browser plugin aint istalled.. install?
[11:47] <Piratelv> Hello everyone. My Ethernet link keeps going down without the interface actually going offline. It just stops responding. (ping gives back "No route to host") Already messed withe the mtu but that only seems to have made it worse.
[11:48] <mac> histo?
[11:48] <mac> ben64
[11:48] <mac> can u help me out?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Piratelv  is the cable well plugged?
[11:49] <Piratelv> MonkeyDust, Yes. doing a "/etc/init.d/network restart" restores the network for a few minutes/hours
[11:56] <artrei> should i use nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:00] <moppers> BluesKaj, hello
[12:00] <BluesKaj> hi moppers
[12:00] <histo> mac: You don't need icedtea
[12:01] <histo> mac: What happens when you rigth click on the minecraft.jar and open with ?? what are you options?
[12:01] <mac> sorry, histo.. i need to go now.. :(
[12:01] <mac> will come back tomorow.. perhaps..
[12:01] <mac> have a day, all of u..
[12:02] <mac> and tnx
[12:02] <ZoRRgh> Can anyone recommend a good commandline texteditor? Currently using VIM.
[12:03] <compdoc> nano
[12:03] <jrib> ZoRRgh: what's wrong with vim?
[12:03] <compdoc> vi is sooo 1960s
[12:03] <ZoRRgh> Nothing wrong with it. Just wanted to hear some options. Nano i also tried.
[12:03] <BluesKaj> and unix frtom the 60s doesn't work
[12:03] <jrib> ZoRRgh: try emacs
[12:03] <moppers> define 'g ood' in the context of editors. what feadtures do you want/nee
[12:04] <ZoRRgh> Isn't emacs gui based?
[12:04] <jrib> ZoRRgh: there's a gui just like there's a gui for vim, but you can run it in your shell
[12:05] <ZoRRgh> I didn't know that. I might check that out.
[12:05] <moppers> nano is quite basic, not many features compared to vim or emacs: really cannot compare them as they're different products for differenet functions
[12:05] <moppers> err i mean nano is a different class of program to vim or emacs
[12:06] <moppers> nano is great for simple text editing, if you want anything more complex, i find you need vim or emacs
[12:06] <compdoc> nano has everything I need in a text editor. never used a feature in vi that nano didnt have and made easier
[12:06] <moppers> Yes, it's subjective
[12:07] <ZoRRgh> Okay. So nano is like the name implies were small editing tool.
[12:07] <BluesKaj> nano is certainly handy when stuck in a tty after an X problem ...saved my bacon a few times
[12:08] <moppers> ya, they all have their uses
[12:08] <ZoRRgh> Thanks guys. Ill just continue being afk now. ^^
[12:10] <moppers> if you need stuff like a debugger for code, you need vim: nano won't do it. if you just need to write shell scripts, nano is really easy to use
[12:12] <ZoRRgh> I think if i stick to using nano and vim ill be covered pretty good.
[12:15] <shafox> hi , my lucid box says i dont have java everytime i run some program that depends on java, but i have already installed it ..
[12:17] <mako_> hi
[12:18] <mako_> anyone has succesfully installed vmware player 4 or 5 on (l)ubuntu 13.04?
[12:18] <bazhang> mako_, raring issues on #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <xzcvczx> shafox: what happens if you try running "java" on the command line?
[12:19] <mako_> k ty
 toon@shadowfox:~$ java The program 'java' can be found in the following packages: * gcj-4.4-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless * cacao * gij-4.3 * jamvm Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[12:21] <shafox> but the openjdk-6 is installed
[12:22] <xzcvczx> shafox: the jdk != jre
[12:22] <xzcvczx> the jdk is for development so contains javac but not java i believe
[12:23] <xzcvczx> and headers etc, as javac is used for "compiling" .java files into .class files then java runs them
[12:23] <shafox> xzcvczx: so which package to install?? i am not a java developer, so i just need the programs that need java to run smoothly
[12:25] <xzcvczx> openjre-6?
[12:25] <xzcvczx> or openjdk-6-jre-headless?
[12:25] <mx8manger> hello guys
[12:26] <xzcvczx> hey mx8manger
[12:26] <mx8manger> i would like to add a new user manually
[12:26] <mx8manger> everything is good
[12:26] <shafox> xzcvczx: openjdk-6-jre-headless: already installed
[12:26] <mx8manger> but how to figure out the default shadowfile encryption policy ?
[12:26] <ThomasM_> Hello everybody
[12:26] <xzcvczx> mx8manger: why would you been adding one that manually? is a BADIDEA(tm)
[12:27] <mx8manger> i want to know MOAR how everything is going
[12:27] <mx8manger> and it will be better idea if changed to a better salted pwd
[12:27] <xzcvczx> mx8manger: a better salted pwd?
[12:28] <mx8manger> so script kittens/kiddies do nothing
[12:28]  * cfhowlett ... salted password?  not peppered?
[12:28] <mx8manger> ubuntu by default dosnt salt the hashes right ?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> ThomasM_, greetings
[12:28] <xzcvczx> shafox: apt-get install openjdk-6-jre?
[12:28] <mx8manger> but i faild figuring out the hashing type
[12:28] <jrib> mx8manger: why do you say that...?
[12:29] <mx8manger> i just want to secure my self better
[12:29] <shafox> xzcvzx: yes i did it said it is newest version
[12:29] <jrib> mx8manger: read man 3 crypt
[12:30] <mx8manger>  3 stands for what
[12:30] <xzcvczx> mx8manger: if your shadow line is $x$blah$blah then its hashed
[12:30] <xzcvczx> salted*
[12:30] <jrib> mx8manger: the section
[12:31] <jrib> mx8manger: maybe this interests you too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#hashing
[12:31] <ThomasM_> I have a strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.
[12:31] <ThomasM_> This rules is working fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:
[12:31] <ThomasM_> KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo"
[12:32] <ThomasM_> But the same for ttyUSB doenst work
[12:32] <ThomasM_> KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboClaw" This rule for the ttyUSB devices doesn't work.
[12:32] <ThomasM_> does somebody have a explanation why
[12:48] <xzcvczx> shafox: still around? try "whereis java" and see if that gives you anything
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> Guys sorry a quick question
[12:51] <delocaz> Hello! I'm wondering how to open the little boot menu when booting from a live CD without a working keyboard, since it only recieves power after that little logo that says keyboard=man goes away
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> LinuxHipster  hope we have a quick answer
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> How do I turn off ubuntu default desktop :0 and just use tightvnc to control my OS remotely
[12:51] <xzcvczx> delocaz: get usb keyboard :P
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> from desktop :2 or :3
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> ":0"
[12:51] <delocaz> xzcvczx, I am using an USB keyboard
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> !mini
[12:52] <xzcvczx> delocaz: thats odd, what sort of keyboard? i assume you can't use keyboard to access bios either then?
[12:53] <[deXter]> delocaz, There should be an option in the BIOS to enable USB input devices ... legacy mode or something like that
[12:53] <delocaz> [deXter], i'm gonna try that. brb
[12:53] <xzcvczx> [deXter]: if he can access bios :P
[12:56] <shafox> xzcvczx: it gave whereis java java: /etc/java /usr/share/java
[12:57] <LinuxHipster> How do I kill Ubuntu's default desktop that runs on screen "desktop :0" and just use tightvnc or xrdp to control my linux from "desktop :1"
[12:57] <xzcvczx> LinuxHipster: why do you need to stop it from running the desktop on :0?
[12:58] <xzcvczx> LinuxHipster: you can set it up for vnc on another desktop and still have :0 up
[12:58] <LinuxHipster> I am will control the laptop from another laptop on same network
[12:58] <LinuxHipster> I don't need the first desktop running
[12:58] <houser> I have a very poor wifi connection on my one computer, and only a single laptop running ubuntu has a decent reception, so i want to capture wifi on this laptop and forward it to another computer (while still beeing available for use on this laptop). Is that possible on ubuntu?
[12:58] <LinuxHipster> houser you will need a ethernet cable
[12:59] <LinuxHipster> and set a bridge connection
[12:59] <houser> LinuxHipster, yeah, i have that
[12:59] <shafox> xzcvczx: any thoughts?? it shows that there is some path to java but i cant run java
[12:59] <houser> LinuxHipster, how do i set a bridge connection?
[12:59] <xzcvczx> houser: its not possible with any os unless you have 2 wifi cards
[12:59] <xzcvczx> well 2 wifi adapters
[12:59] <houser> xzcvczx, but i just want to forward from wifi to ethernet cable
[13:00] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me in setting FTP server using vsftpd. I started the service but when I am accessing from windows machine I am getting "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()" error
[13:00] <LinuxHipster> Well I never really tried it myself so I don't know how, It's super easy to set up a bridge connection on windows though
[13:00] <xzcvczx> shafox: gimme a min, i am just installing java to check something
[13:00] <LinuxHipster> just a couple of clicks
[13:00] <shafox> ok
[13:01] <xzcvczx> c2tarun: chmod
[13:01] <sprlhzl> hey guys i have a 10.04 server but suddenly it doesn't boot, instead it gives me a ureadahead error status 5
[13:01] <sprlhzl> does anybody know how i fix that?
[13:02] <xzcvczx> shafox: ls /etc/alternatives/java
[13:02] <c2tarun> xzcvczx, you mean I have to give access to write into the folder of ftp to the temparory user I created to login to ftp?
[13:02] <shafox> xzcvczx: no such file or directory
[13:03] <xzcvczx> c2tarun: no you have to make the root directory thats served non writable by the server i believe
[13:03] <android> hey all, so im currently locked out of my ubuntu... unity has frozen i think, i cant move or click any of the windows, but i can type on this terminal. how can i restart it?
[13:03] <xzcvczx> ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[13:03] <xzcvczx> shafox: ^^
[13:03] <android> and i can see my mouse cursor
[13:03] <ZoRRgh> sudo rebbot
[13:04] <c2tarun> xzcvczx, ok, let me try
[13:04] <android> i don't want to reboot...
[13:04] <xzcvczx> ctrl-alt-backspace
[13:04] <ZoRRgh> ^^
[13:04] <xzcvczx> android: ^^
[13:04] <android> xzcvczx: is that a shortcut for reboot?
[13:04] <xzcvczx> no
[13:04] <xzcvczx> it restarts x
[13:04] <ZoRRgh> just install gnome-fallback instead.
[13:04] <xzcvczx> well kills x and then x aurto restarts
[13:04] <android> hmm didn't work
[13:05] <xzcvczx> android: /exec killall unity
[13:05] <shafox> xzcvczx: i have this ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[13:05] <xzcvczx> shafox: ok and ls /usr/bin/java
[13:05] <android> xzcvczx: so type /exec killall unity from terminal?
[13:06] <xzcvczx> android: well i assume your terminal is a irc client?
[13:06] <android> xzcvczx: yeah it is atm :P
[13:06] <shafox> xzcvczx: no such file or directory
[13:06] <android> xzcvczx: on irssi atm
[13:06] <xzcvczx> android: then /exec makes it execute
[13:06] <android> ah
[13:06] <android> no process found
[13:06] <android> it says
[13:06] <ZoRRgh> android: you could install another ui.
[13:06] <xzcvczx> shafox: try running that java file you found
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> android  irssi in combination with screen makes it more flexible
[13:07] <ZoRRgh> Unity sucks anyway
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !who
[13:07] <xzcvczx> ZoRRgh: ok, you have made your pont....
[13:07] <xzcvczx> point*
[13:07] <android> yeah...
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> ZoRRgh  yu don't like it, that's different
[13:07] <android> it doesn't help me right now ZoRRgh
[13:07] <xzcvczx> android: /exec ps aux
[13:07] <xzcvczx> see if you can find unity in that list
[13:07] <ZoRRgh> ^^ No. I prefer the old gnome layout.
[13:08] <xzcvczx> android: or if its easier ctrl-alt-f1 and do it there
[13:08] <shafox> xzcvczx: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[13:08] <shafox>  this file i found. what to run?
[13:08] <xzcvczx> ZoRRgh: good for you.... now how bout a nice cup of STU
[13:08] <xzcvczx> shafox: try it
[13:08] <android> xzcvczx: /exec unity seems to have relaunched/fixed it :) thanks buddy
[13:08] <xzcvczx> android: lol, ok
[13:08] <ZoRRgh> xzcvczx: Point taken sir.
[13:09] <xzcvczx> android: might want to check if there is a zombie around
[13:09] <android> xzcvczx: is that linux lingo, or do you mean a literal zombie? haha
[13:09] <xzcvczx> android: dead process
[13:09] <xzcvczx> hence zombie
[13:09] <xzcvczx> as its still gets in the way eating up ram
[13:09] <android> xzcvczx: ah ;)
[13:09] <shafox> xzcvczx: this is what i got. https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378345 . i guess java is installed cause its outputting the usage options
[13:11] <ZoRRgh> android: Did you recently update any drivers? I once had no gui when logging in. Maybe its the same thing
[13:11] <delocaz> Hello! Another quick question: I tried to install Xubuntu on an old computer, and it didn't boot up to Ubiquity. I then got told to set the nomodeset parameter on the kernel, but didn't work. Right now, it boots up to text saying Xubuntu 12.10 and 4 dots underneath, then goes black, then flashes a cursor for half a seconf, then goes black again.
[13:11] <ZoRRgh> Nwm
[13:11] <delocaz> How can I fix this?
[13:12] <xzcvczx> shafox try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | delocaz
[13:12] <shafox> xzcvczx: no alternatives for java
[13:12] <k1l_> android: do you have the headers for your kernel version?
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> delocaz  ok, you did that
[13:12] <delocaz> MonkeyDust, I have tried nomodeset, but it didn't fix the problem.
[13:13] <xzcvczx> !novga
[13:13] <xzcvczx> nope apparently not
[13:14] <LinuxHipster> How do check how much space do I have left on my hard drive?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> LinuxHipster, df -H
[13:14] <xzcvczx> shafox: no idea sorry then.... might have to try nuking and reinstalling java
[13:14] <bekks> LinuxHipster: Type "df -h" in a terminal
[13:15] <LinuxHipster> Alright, thanks <3
[13:15] <shafox> xzcvczx: any link to that ?? what packages i need to purge and reinstall again sort of
[13:16] <bekks> !java > shafox
[13:16] <xzcvczx> shafox: thanks bekks
[13:16] <ThomasM_> Hello everyone
[13:16] <xzcvczx> welcome back ThomasM_
[13:16] <cfhowlett> ThomasM_, greetings
[13:16] <shafox> xzcvczx: thanks bekks
[13:17] <ThomasM_> I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10. This rules is working fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device: KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo" Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="
[13:17] <ThomasM_> This rule for the ttyUSB devices doesn't work.
[13:17] <delocaz> Anyone?
[13:17] <xzcvczx> ThomasM_: anythign in the logs?
[13:17] <android> xzcvczx: yeah i'm getting weird behaviour, like all of the icons on the launcher are missing haha. is there an easy way to kill and restart unity without closing all my open stuff? i've got a lot of unsaved work open.
[13:18] <RusVicious> Have a nice day
[13:18] <xzcvczx> android: easiest just to save and restart most likely
[13:18] <android> xzcvczx: fair enough :( lame haha
[13:18] <xzcvczx> android: theres a bunch of stuff to restart
[13:18] <shafox> btw i followed that ubuntu comunity page how to install java, but still dont have it by having it
[13:18] <kinimodultra_> hi
[13:18] <xzcvczx> android: least you don't need to reboot (unlike windows) :P
[13:18] <ThomasM_> xzcvczx i didn't see anything starnge in the syslog
[13:18] <RusVicious> Someone ported Ubuntu Phone on LG  optimus L9 (P675)?
[13:18] <android> xzcvczx: i don't?
[13:19] <xzcvczx> android: nah just logout and login
[13:19] <android> xzcvczx: oh :)
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !touch|RusVicious,
[13:19] <ThomasM_> xvcvczx Then I tried a simpler rule like this: ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboClaw" But the created symlink links to the bus "ttyRoboClaw -> bus/usb/001/012" instead of the original device path "ttyUSB0"
[13:20] <kinimodultra_> i have a problem with ubuntu instal. please help with that?
[13:20] <bekks> kinimodultra_: Only if you actually state your problem.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !details|kinimodultra_,
[13:20] <xzcvczx> ThomasM_: doesn't that achieve the same thing?
[13:21] <xzcvczx> shafox: it seems that java is becoming a bit of a dead art these days (well on desktop anyway)
[13:21] <ThomasM_> xzcvczx if the link points to the bus its not possible for me to use the symlink in c++ to open a deviece also its not possible to use it in the shell
[13:22] <bekks> xzcvczx: Which is not true :)
[13:22] <xzcvczx> bekks: lol maybe i am just dreaming of a better future :)
[13:22] <kinimodultra_> bekks:  yes of course. I install ubuntu (no problem) and when i restart Pc (instal is complete) its only dash on screen (on black screen) and its all
[13:22] <shafox> xzcvczx: well the applications still needs it to run properly. and java wont die , it can't
[13:23] <bekks> shafox: It can, but it wont.
[13:23] <CorySimmons> Hey guys, anyone have any idea why my Samba share is only randomly available? I'm on a shared network with other people and I'm not sure if them connecting/disconnecting affects my share or not. Or if there's something I can do to make my share permanent.
[13:23] <shafox> bekks: yeah ...
[13:23] <ThomasM_> kinimodultra_ trie to open a different console and try to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop
[13:23] <e-v-o> Hey, I have a desktop with brackground only after restarting X. Alt+Ctrl+F1 is unresponsive : ( How do I get out of this?
[13:23] <shafox> So shall I avoid java based applications ??
[13:23] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: ctrl-alt-f1 work?
[13:24] <shafox>  I can't run it
[13:24] <e-v-o> not at alll
[13:24] <kinimodultra_> OK I try this
[13:24] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: ah so ctrl-alt-backspace?
[13:24] <kinimodultra_> thanks
[13:24] <bekks> shafox: Why not?
[13:24] <e-v-o> nope
[13:24] <bekks> shafox: Whats the detailed, exact error you get?
[13:24] <xzcvczx> bekks: not showing up as /etc/alternatives/java or in /usr/bin/java
[13:24] <bekks> xzcvczx: Then you/he needs to install it.
[13:24] <shafox> yeah bekks as xzcvczx said
[13:24] <xzcvczx> s/in/as/
[13:25] <xzcvczx> bekks: lol thats what i said
[13:25] <shafox> bekks: i did install it
[13:25] <bekks> shafox: Obviously you didnt ;)
[13:25] <shafox> and i followed the community page on java
[13:25] <CorySimmons> Anyone know anything about Samba shares in here?
[13:25] <xzcvczx> bekks: the executable is in the /usr/lib folder but not any symlinks
[13:25] <e-v-o> xzcvczx, is it safe to do a hard reset?
[13:25] <bekks> shafox: So which version did you install how?
[13:26] <shafox> bekks: openjdk-6
[13:26] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: shouldn't hurt anything
[13:26] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: whats the drive light showing?
[13:26] <shafox> and i installed it through apt-get
[13:26] <e-v-o> no activity
[13:26] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: then yank it
[13:26] <shafox> i mean bekks: it just pops up with the deb installer from help.ubuntu.com/community/java
[13:27] <bekks> shafox: You should install openjdk-6-jdk or openjdk-6-jre at least.
[13:27] <ThomasM_> xzcvczx do you have any more ideas why ttyACM rule for the symlink works bit ttyUSB rule wort?
[13:27] <shafox> bekks: this is waht xzcvczx told me try and the result is this https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378345
[13:27] <jgdovin> well.. wtf.  :P
[13:28] <shafox> bekks: yeah the deb package is in the help community java page i installed that one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[13:28] <bekks> shafox: Thats not using apt-get then-
[13:28] <xzcvczx> shafox: why did you install a deb and not from the repose?
[13:28] <xzcvczx> -e
[13:28] <bekks> shafox: All you need to do is running "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk".
[13:28] <bekks> shafox: Or stick with your manually installed stuff.
[13:29] <shafox> bekks: & xzcvczx: i went directly with the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[13:29] <bekks> shafox: If doing the latter, I am out of support.
[13:30] <shafox> bekks & xzcvczx: i did the OpenJDK first option
[13:30] <shafox> i did nothing as of manual installation
[13:30] <jgdovin> k so its been a bit since i set up a server and i just set up a new vps with vilayer. i can ssh in but it cannot ping out to any ip or url
[13:30] <bekks> shafox: Please provide the following outputs in a pastebin: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l openjdk
[13:30] <xzcvczx> shafox: does your app require java 1.6?
[13:31] <KaZeR> hi there
[13:31] <shafox> xzcvczx: i am installing subsonic and phpstorm
[13:31] <shafox> they both need 1.6 or later xzcvczx
[13:31] <jgdovin> lol whoops
[13:32] <jgdovin> anyway, back to my question if anyone has suggestions
[13:32] <KaZeR> i have a laptop which crashed during an apt-get upgrade. now some packages seem to be inconsistent
[13:32] <xzcvczx> shafox: then why not install 7?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> KaZeR, recommend you reinstall
[13:32] <KaZeR> example : initramfs-tools is not configured, because it depends on udev, which can't be configured because it depends on initramfs-tools
[13:32] <shafox> bekks: https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378417
[13:33] <KaZeR> cfhowlett, won't be easy.. i'm very far from this laptop, trying to help over the internet
[13:33] <KaZeR> cd /h
[13:33] <shafox> yeah i mean i have one so didn't bother to go for another one btw i am on lucid
[13:33] <KaZeR> gah
[13:33] <shafox> xzcvczx: ^^
[13:33] <bekks> shafox: And could you provide the output "dpkg -l | grep openjdk" too, please?
[13:33] <jgdovin> k so its been a bit since i set up a server and i just set up a new vps with vilayer. i can ssh in but it cannot ping out to any ip or url if you can give me an idea of where to start i would be greatful
[13:33] <jgdovin> grateful*
[13:34] <cfhowlett> jgdovin, perhaps a good question for #ubuntu-server ...
[13:34] <jgdovin> thanks
[13:34] <xzcvczx> shafox: why such an old version?
[13:34] <dr_willis> and file a support ticket with the VPS provider
[13:34] <bekks> jgdovin: dns issue.
[13:35] <shafox> bekks: updated gist https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378417
[13:35] <xzcvczx> jgdovin: route -n
[13:35] <bekks> shafox: You should manually install a reasonable safe version. Your version isnt.
[13:35] <shafox> xzcvczx: coz i am having a very old laptop. will be switching to xubuntu after one month when this will be in no more supported
[13:35] <xzcvczx> see if there is a default route
[13:36] <jgdovin> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>         U     0      0        0 venet0
[13:36] <jgdovin> herm..
[13:36] <shafox> bekks: manually? can't i add repos and install from there that would be error free right??
[13:36] <jgdovin> looks like no default route
[13:36] <xzcvczx> jgdovin: lol, check for the network settings from your provider
[13:36] <e-v-o> xzcvczx, rebooting did the trick
[13:36] <DylanCl> Hello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this
[13:36] <bekks> shafox: No software on this planet is error free. You should just update to 1.6.0_43 at least - or just use the latest 1.7 version.
[13:37] <jgdovin> xzcvczx: this is a vps, i guess i need to get this info from them
[13:37] <xzcvczx> yup
[13:37] <shafox> bekks: no updates are coming for java :(
[13:37] <bekks> shafox: Then manually install... - I just told you :P
[13:37] <shafox> shall i again go with the help.ubuntu.com/community/java to install java 1.7 ??
[13:38] <xzcvczx> shafox: try using synaptic
[13:38] <delocaz> So... My computer still won't boot past the screen that says "Xubuntu 12.10" and has 4 dots from the live CD. It is now randomly flashing between movable cursor and black screen. Is it because it doesn't have enough RAM (it has 1gb). I'm trying to install Xubuntu
[13:38] <bekks> xzcvczx: Synaptics doe the same as apt-get
[13:38] <xzcvczx> bekks: yeah but its a nice and pretty gui
[13:38] <xzcvczx> bekks: well its a gui
[13:38] <bekks> xzcvczx: Which is unneeded for "apt-get install packagename" :P
[13:39] <bekks> shafox: Drop your version and manuall install the latest 1.7 version or use the PPA mentioned in that article.
[13:40] <shafox> bekks: there is no ppa on that page. there is though the .deb installer file
[13:41] <bekks> shafox: There is a PPA on that page. I can see it.
[13:41] <DylanCl> streaming() {
[13:41] <DylanCl>    INRES="1440x900"
[13:41] <DylanCl> Woops, sorryu
[13:41] <delocaz> So nobody can help me?
[13:41] <dr_willis> delocaz:  sounds like X is crashing over and over again.
[13:42] <dr_willis> delocaz:  1gb is plenty.  tell the channel your video cartd
[13:42] <DylanCl> Hello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this
[13:42] <Inspiral> I have an issue with my graphics card crashing the desktop with a garbled display every 4-6 hours, if i reset using the reset switch or reboot via reisub artifacts remain on screen/locks up. I must physically disconnect the power cable or use the power switch on the PSU to get things working again correctly (fishy?). I have tried with nouvou drivers and propriety i have a geforce 210
[13:42] <bekks> shafox: "1.Using webupd8.org's strikingly simple method. " -- thats basically a PPA.
[13:42] <Inspiral> is this card screwed or is it something else ?
[13:42] <delocaz> dr_willis: I have no idea... It's integrated something I think.
[13:43] <delocaz> and setting it to nomodeset doesn't help
[13:43] <shafox> bekks: let me give that a try
[13:43] <shafox> bekks: should i purge the openjdk first or on top of that i will install ? ?
[13:43] <bekks> shafox: I told you to, yes.
[13:43] <Inspiral> also, I can force the crash by running sensors-detect - which crashes upon reaching the gpu section
[13:43] <dr_willis> delocaz:  time to look up the exact make and model on the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com i guess. and see if anyone else has issues.. the pc makers homepage will also give some info on its specs
[13:44] <delocaz> dr_willis: I have no idea what the card is, as I can't open the live cd... Also, I got it second-hand from work
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Inspiral, install the nvidia-current driver , then reboot
[13:45] <xzcvczx> Inspiral: purge the sensors stuff?
[13:45] <Inspiral> BluesKaj: i have tried with it
[13:45] <Inspiral> its not sensors crashing it
[13:45] <xzcvczx> lmsensors or lm-sensors?
[13:45] <Inspiral> it does it regardless
[13:45] <Inspiral> lm-sensors
[13:45] <xzcvczx> oh
[13:45] <dr_willis> !text | delocaz
[13:45] <xzcvczx> Inspiral: try reseating card
[13:45] <Inspiral> ok i can try that
[13:45] <Inspiral> anything else you can suggest?
[13:45] <dr_willis> delocaz:  try text mode. see what lspci says about the hardware i guess. or open it up if its a desktop and look.
[13:45] <Inspiral> specifically to work out if it really is hardware fault
[13:46] <delocaz> ubottu: it isn't installed... Can't even get Ubiquity running so it's off a live CD
[13:46] <delocaz> bah
[13:46] <BluesKaj> xzcvczx, could be right , Inspiral , your card  could be working loose as it warms up
[13:46] <dexter_> I'm a computer science student and would like to join Getting things Gnome's mailing list.
[13:47] <dexter_> In order to be able to contribute to OPW
[13:47] <bekks> dexter_: How is that related to Ubuntu then?
[13:47] <Iszak> I'm trying to use duplicity with an include filelist, however I can't get it to exclude all .git directories nested, I've tried "- **/.git/" ,"- **/.git/**" "- **/.git" any help is appreciated
[13:48] <Inspiral> off to reboot to hit this card with a mallet then :)
[13:48] <yumaokao> quit
[13:48] <xzcvczx> Inspiral: sledgehammers are easier
[13:48] <xzcvczx> require less input force just more lifting force
[13:49] <cfhowlett> dexter_, so why tell us?
[13:50] <dexter_> I'm trying to participate in OPW and considering to work on Gnome
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> what's opw?
[13:51] <bekks> dexter_: How is that related to Ubuntu then?
[13:51] <Robi33000> Hello, I need USB version suppurt
[13:51] <cfhowlett> dexter_, this is ubuntu.  not OPW or Gnome.  continue your search
[13:51] <DJones> !contribute | dexter_
[13:51] <dexter_> thank you
[13:51] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: USB version support?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Robi33000  sounds strange, but ask your question
[13:54] <hhasan> ne oluyor simdi
[13:55] <sprlhzl> how can i list all physical hard drives attached to my ubuntu server?
[13:56] <Carlos30> Hi, one question, if I install the beta 2 of ubuntu 13.04, when the final version leave should i reinstalling or upgrading would not be necessary?
[13:57] <contrapunctus> NataLia is spamming links of claimed pornography =\
[13:57] <contrapunctus> (via PM)
[13:57] <delocaz> dr_willis: All I can get from lspci is "Silicon Integrated"
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !ops|NataLia,
[13:58] <sebazato> Hi, I have a problem, and I hope someone could be of help: I run Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP Folio !3, 4gb RAM, I5 processor. A week ago I downloaded some updates, and I have since experiencing a problem: approximately one out of two times that I try to turn it on, the screen goes black with only a little cursor flashing on the upper-left corner, and it stops loading Ubuntu. RAM and hard-disk are okay. Any idea what it could be?
[13:58] <sonOfRa> Is it possible to create custom right click menu additions for certain folders?
[13:58] <sonOfRa> I know dropbox does this somehow, so I guess it is possible
[14:00] <delocaz> When I try to install Xubuntu 12.10, it boots up to the screen that says "Xubuntu 12.10   . . . . ", then blackscreens and flashes a cursor off and on.
[14:00] <delocaz> Haven't gotten into Ubiquity yet
[14:00] <sebazato> I tried using older kernel versions, didn't work
[14:00] <jephb> hi, i have downloaded  debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img     but i have no idea bout how to extract it to make bootable from the usb. any help?
[14:01] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Do you get the first gui with choices like tryout install check memory?
[14:01] <jephb> hi, i have downloaded  debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img     but i have no idea bout how to extract it to make bootable from the usb. any help?
[14:02] <xzcvczx> jephb: might be better to ask in #debian
[14:02] <cfhowlett> jephb, probably want to ask about that in debian .... :)
[14:02] <sebazato> almost forgot, before stalling on the black screen, an error message flashes for less than a second, saying "kvm- disabled by BIOS"
[14:02] <jephb> thank let me try
[14:02] <shafox> bekks & xzcvczx: I installed java 7 and its working good. :)
[14:02] <jirido> Hi. Im in to install lubuntu 13.10 beta 2.. will i be able to upgrade that one to 13.10 without reinstall?
[14:02] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: yes, I do.
[14:03] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Take a look here on using f6 there to choose nomodeset. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[14:03] <coffe> Hello, would need some helt getting my soundcard working .. having a cm8888 chip . found this http://markmail.org/thread/c4amw54bo7z5jzzv but dont know what to do with it
[14:04] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: I have tried that, but it didn't help. Some other person said it might be because X crashes again and again?
[14:04] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I would check the md5sum of the ISO.
[14:04] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[14:05] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Been there, done that. The ISO is perfectly fine, and the disc verification says it's fine too
[14:06] <sebazato> Hi, I have a problem, and I hope someone could be of help: I run Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP Folio !3, 4gb RAM, I5 processor. A week ago I downloaded some updates, and I have been experiencing a problem since: approximately half the times that I try to turn the laptop on, the screen goes black with only a little cursor flashing on the upper-left corner, and it stops loading Ubuntu. RAM and hard-disk are okay. Any idea what it could be?
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Cool, not sure beyond that, if it were me I would probably check the computer on the web and hardware in general and the install media.
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> on this install release=media
[14:17] <ThomasM_> Hello again everybody now i try to explain my problem in one line.
[14:17] <ThomasM_> I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=
[14:18] <falcom> hello ubuntu user. What terminals do you guys use?
[14:18] <bekks> falcom: Is that a poll?
[14:22] <falcom> bekks: sort of, im hating the default one as i feel like it's missing some basic features (like search)
[14:22] <bekks> !poll > falcom
[14:22] <xzcvczx> falcom: search in what way?
[14:23] <bekks> falcom: I never needed to search something using the terminals capabilities - I just use find, grep, awk, sed, etc. when being in dire need of "searching".
[14:23] <xzcvczx> i never new terminals had the ability to "search"
[14:23] <trap23> my software centre  closes without any error when i try to open it. using 12.04. was trying to install "Gnaural"
[14:23] <ThomasM> Hello again. I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}
[14:23] <xzcvczx> s/new/knew/
[14:23] <xzcvczx> trap23: try running from the command line and seeing what the error is?
[14:25] <trap23> xzcvczx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704859/
[14:25] <xzcvczx> trap23: cd /var/lib/apt
[14:26] <xzcvczx> trap23: sudo mv lists lists.old
[14:26] <xzcvczx> sudo apt-get update
[14:26] <trap23> xzcvczx: why does occurred ?
[14:27] <xzcvczx> trap23: there was a solar flare while you were updating your package lists
[14:28] <trap23> xzcvczx: thanks, will not do update during flares ;)
[14:28] <xzcvczx> trap23: good idea
[14:29] <ThomasM> Dont know if message was send so i give it another try the last one:
[14:30] <ThomasM> I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATT
[14:30] <ThomasM> okay didnt worked ...#
[14:30] <xzcvczx> ThomasM: try ls -l /dev/ttyUSBx as is it a symlink already?
[14:30] <sprezzatura> am not able to install postgres on 11.10. says 'unable to locate packages'. any help?
[14:30] <xzcvczx> sprezzatura: apt-get update
[14:31] <sprezzatura> xzcvczx: did that
[14:31] <xzcvczx> sprezzatura: apt-cache search postgres
[14:32] <sprezzatura> xzcvczx: thanks. i didnt know about that
[14:32] <slinnky> sprezzatura, now you do!
[14:32] <sprezzatura> it so happens that i had to mention postgresql-9.1
[14:32] <xzcvczx> :)
[14:33] <azbarcea> hi guys, how can I install boost 1.49 or 1.51 to ubuntu 12.04, when there isn't in repository?
[14:33] <trap23> xzcvczx: it really was a flare, just during the trying to fetch package information, the website went offline. and corrupted my lists
[14:34] <xzcvczx> trap23: see... its always them damn flares
[14:34] <trap23> xzcvczx: yes, rare occurrences
[14:34] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: apt-cache search boost
[14:34] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: its libboost*
[14:35] <ThomasM> xzcvczx: ls -l /dev/ttyUSBx returns crw-rw-rw- 1 thomas dialout 188, 0 Apr 13 13:48 /dev/ttyUSB0
[14:35] <ThomasM> i am not sure but is the device ttyUSB0 already linked to /dev/ttyUSB0
[14:35] <ThomasM> is this an existing symlink??
[14:35] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: i know that ... but I can't find >= 1.49
[14:36] <xzcvczx> what version is it?
[14:36] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: libboost1.48-all-dev
[14:36] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: and libboost1.46-dev ... but that one is too old
[14:36] <xzcvczx> wow... you are up a creak without a paddle then aren't you
[14:36] <xzcvczx> creek
[14:37] <xzcvczx> try launchpad otherwise you may need to wait for +1
[14:37] <carlos_> does anyone know of an alternative to libre office that works as good as MS office?
[14:37] <xzcvczx> define "works as good"
[14:37] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: 1.49 is on quantal and raring ... not on 12.04 :(
[14:38] <xzcvczx> as i find libre office works as good as ms office for everything i need it for
[14:38] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: oh yeah that is one problem with lts's
[14:38] <DylanCl> Hello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this please.
[14:38] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: :(
[14:38] <carlos_> i tried opening a spreadsheet and the formulas and macros don't work, i then tried on MS office and it works fine.
[14:38] <azbarcea> carlos_: Google Apps ... but what doesn't suits for you libreOffice?
[14:39] <bekks> carlos_: Thats expected. MS Office macros wont work in non-MS-Office products.
[14:39] <xzcvczx> carlos_: hmm i have never had an issue with formulas in libre but macros aren't the best\
[14:40] <azbarcea> carlos_: you may install MS Office on windows using wine
[14:41] <carlos_> at first I thought it was the spreadsheet but then I booted to windows and ran the same spreadsheet on MS office and it worked fine.
[14:41] <xzcvczx> carlos_: well as bekks said, macros don't really work outside ms
[14:41] <azbarcea> carlos_: There are some macros, and formulas that work ONLY in MS, because of the dlls referenced. And if the macros use VBA, than it is obvious why it doesn't work
[14:42] <bekks> carlos_: As already said, thats totally expected.
[14:42] <carlos_> I haven't tried wine ms office yet. maybe that my solution
[14:43] <carlos_> I have permanently switch to ubuntu and rather not go to windows for MS office
[14:43] <ThomasM> SO after trying to post one line with my problem explanation i will try the paste method:
[14:43] <ThomasM> I Have problems with the udev rules:
[14:43] <ThomasM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704916/
[14:43] <wilee-nilee> carlos_, If you have a dual boot I would not bother with wine and word.
[14:43] <ThomasM> Here i have descipted the situations
[14:44] <ThomasM> plaese have a look at it thank ypou very much
[14:45] <carlos_> wilee-nilee_ so you suggest just using windows then? I do have a dual boot but I only use it for itunes because I have an iphone.
[14:48] <wilee-nilee> carlos_, I was referring to the MS word.
[14:49] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: it appears I have to compile boost myself ... :)
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> your choice though I write grad papers so I'm biased as far as stability and full use carlos_
[14:50] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: lol, good ol' boost
[14:50] <azbarcea> :D
[14:50] <ThomasM> xzcvczx i think you are the most active person here so i will send you again my information about my udev problem its described here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704916/
[14:52] <xzcvczx> ThomasM: well is /dev/ttyUSBx a symlink to elsewhere?
[14:54] <wilee-nilee> ThomasM, You are lucky some find be directly asks for help with contacting you first not a good policy, I would ignore you. ;)
[14:56] <damnick> hi , i use ubuntu 12.10 and when i try to enter at recovery concose the boot stops at: kvm: Nested Paging enabled
[14:57] <damnick> what can i do to boot normally?
[14:57] <ThomasM> xzcvczx /dev/ttyUSBx is not a symlink i want to create a symlink like /dev/ttyRoboclaw which links the device /dev/ttyUSB0. Hope i understand your question right
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM  consider asking in #bash
[14:58] <ThomasM> wilee-nilee I didnt understand what you said?
[14:58] <delocaz> Can anyone help me with installing Xubuntu? It only boots to the screen that has "Xubuntu 12.10" and 4 blinking dots.  I have tried: nomodeset
[14:59] <ThomasM> MonkeyDust thanks I will also try it in #bash
[15:00] <wilee-nilee> !details > delocaz
[15:00] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Sorry wrong nick my bad
[15:01] <Funktipus> Hi
[15:01] <wilee-nilee> !details > damnick
[15:02] <Funktipus> I just installed lubuntu on a computer that was sitting in my garage for most of the winter.
[15:02] <Funktipus> Is there any cool things i can do with a fairly old computer?
[15:03] <delocaz> Funktipus: You could set up a web server
[15:03] <xzcvczx> lol worst question ever
[15:03] <xzcvczx> Funktipus: you can take the cpu hsf off and see how long it takes to catch fire :P
[15:03] <delocaz> :P
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> !tasksel | Funktipus
[15:09] <ericbradatsch> hi i have problems mounting a remote filesystem with chmod 777
[15:09] <ericbradatsch> can anybody help me out?
[15:09] <dr_willis> give us more details ericbradatsch .
[15:10] <ericbradatsch> i am mounting via fstab //<IP_ADDRESS>/TAS/files /var/www/TAS/files cifs username=...,password=...,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0777,defaults 0 0
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> ericbradatsch  chmod 777 is NOT a good idea
[15:10] <dr_willis> err.. umask is not the same as the modes.
[15:10] <ericbradatsch> and when i do ls -l it shows drwxr-xr-x  1 service service          0 Apr 13 17:05 files
[15:11] <ericbradatsch> uh :/
[15:11] <ericbradatsch> dr_willis: what do i have to put there?
[15:11] <dr_willis> theres also the fmask and dmask options.
[15:11] <ericbradatsch> MonkeyDust: I know - but there are different users accessing the folder
[15:12] <colleenA> hello there I am trying to turn off touch pad taping but no matter what I do it is not turning off. my bf told me to try dconf-editor and gnome-control-panel but gnome-con... has no touchpad section undere mouse and touchpad and dconf-editor I have clicked on disable tap-to-click but still nothing. thanks
[15:12] <ericbradatsch> dr_willis: one sec gonna google ist
[15:12] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> ericbradatsch  and all these users can change whatever they want, also lock you out from access
[15:12] <dr_willis> theres like 4 books on samba with examples in that samba-doc package also. ;)
[15:13] <ericbradatsch> MonkeyDust: hmmm… thats a good point. i should think about my access level system :) - thats the problem when you do it in the beginning you leave it like that :)
[15:14] <ericbradatsch> or which useraccount / userid does apache user
[15:14] <ericbradatsch> since this folder is mostly used by apache
[15:15] <xzcvczx> errrr don't 777 stuff that apaches running on
[15:15] <xzcvczx> well visible to apache
[15:15] <KxTwo> Hey guys I want to start playing around with java and making android apps.  Should I just use the default version of eclipse that can be downloaded through the software center?
[15:15] <xzcvczx> thats a BAD_IDEA(tm)
[15:15] <DWSR> If I'm uninstalling stuff, can I tell Apt to not uninstall e2fsprogs somehow?
[15:15] <xzcvczx> KxTwo: no use the android sdk
[15:15] <DWSR> Like, if I'm purging a bunch of desktop stuff, it's telling me I've selected e2fsprogs.
[15:15] <tekk> guys, i'm getting strange behaviour / crashes / panics on ubuntu... finally have managed to get some logs / messages out the box... here's what it says http://pastebin.com/ePUiXTLQ do you think its bad RAM ?
[15:16] <KxTwo> xzcvczx, the android sdk is just an add on for eclipse
[15:16] <xzcvczx> DWSR: then you are nuking something that e2fsprogs needs
[15:16] <colleenA> KxTwo adt comes with eclisop
[15:16] <DWSR> xzcvczx: Yeah, I got a list of packages from apt that it's trying to remove because they're marked essential.
[15:16] <ericbradatsch> back in a min
[15:16] <DWSR> xzcvczx: How can I say "remove everything not marked essential that matches these masks"
[15:17] <xzcvczx> DWSR: well what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[15:17] <DWSR> apt-get purge speech* plymouth* saned* gluster* modemmanager* lightdm*
[15:17] <bekks> KxTwo: Manually install eclipse, and do the same for the android sdk.
[15:17] <DWSR> Remove a bunch of desktop stuff.
[15:17] <xzcvczx> KxTwo: i am pretty sure i have seen sdk packages that include eclipse
[15:17] <DWSR> xzcvczx: ^^
[15:17] <xzcvczx> DWSR: why are you trying to nuke lightdm... what have you replaced it with?
[15:17] <DWSR> I'm not running a DM.
[15:18] <KxTwo> Ok I am not worried too much about the android side of thigns that is easy to set up with eclipse I am trying to figure out what version of eclipse to use
[15:18] <xzcvczx> DWSR: so you are not running a gui?
[15:18] <DWSR> xzcvczx: Nope.
[15:18] <KxTwo> bekks, what version do you recommend?
[15:18] <bekks> DWSR: Then how do you startx?
[15:18] <DWSR> bekks: I don't.
[15:18] <bekks> KxTwo: The latest stable.
[15:18] <xzcvczx> DWSR: then why are you not running ubuntu server?
[15:18] <DWSR> xzcvczx: I converted this machine and don't feel like reinstalling Ubuntu.
[15:18] <bekks> DWSR: Then why are you afraid of uninstalling desktop stuff when not running a desktop?
[15:18] <DWSR> bekks: I'm not. I don't want to remove e2fsprogs.
[15:19] <bekks> DWSR: Then install them again, afterwards.
[15:19] <xzcvczx> well you are more likely to get yourself into trouble trying to nuke out all the desktop stuff than just reinstalling if its to become a server
[15:19] <DWSR> xzcvczx: Humour me.
[15:19] <IdleOne> DWSR: you can boot without X if you like see /msg ubottu !nox
[15:19] <colleenA> for startx auto when user logs in add if statement to .bashrc that say if display is = ttyy1 then startx
[15:19] <KxTwo> bekks, it doesnt list that way on the Dl page
[15:19] <DWSR> IdleOne: I'm already booting without X.
[15:19] <DWSR> IdleOne: X isn't even installed.
[15:19] <bekks> KxTwo: It does. It lists several editions of the latest stable, e.g.
[15:19] <IdleOne> yeah, was a legacy figure of speech
[15:19] <IdleOne> :)
[15:19] <KxTwo> like right now I downloaded the IDE for java ide developers
[15:20] <bekks> KxTwo: Then just use it.
[15:20] <DWSR> !nox
[15:20] <KxTwo> ok im not sure what you are looking at but it doesnt list it that way
[15:20] <murosai> how can i copy file contents into clipboard using commandline?
[15:21] <KxTwo> and there was no installation either I simply run it from the extracted folder
[15:21] <IdleOne> DWSR: what I mean was that you can boot with a GUI, it won't remove all the desktop packages but if they are not in use they don't use any memory and like xzcvczx said it will save you a lot of possible hassle.
[15:21] <xzcvczx> murosai: in console or terminal?
[15:21] <IdleOne> without*
[15:21] <DWSR> IdleOne: I'm running into space restrictions.
[15:21] <DWSR> IdleOne: So, again, humour me.
[15:21] <murosai> terminal
[15:21] <xzcvczx> murosai: select it right click copy
[15:21] <zykotick9> DWSR: it is possible to mark a package as manually installed, then apt won't remove it if it's a dependency for some other metapackage, or pulled in by another installed package.  BUT if you remove a dependency it has, obviously, it's gotta go.  good luck.  (starting from mini.iso, and not installing and *desktop metapackages would make a lot more sence to me)
[15:22] <murosai> i said using using command line
[15:22] <KxTwo> ahh the adt bundle includes eclipse
[15:22] <IdleOne> zykotick9: he wants to remove Unity, I am not sure if it is possible to do without problems
[15:22] <DWSR> zykotick9: How do I mark them? It's 5 or 6 packages. I'll mark them then remove what I'm nuking.
[15:22] <xzcvczx> murosai: well run vi <file> then it will be in command line and copy paste a page at a time
[15:23] <KxTwo> ok I gues im past it being an ubuntu question now, thanks for the help
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> who wants to remove unity? simply install something else, or download a different iso
[15:23] <zykotick9> IdleOne: i agree with you!
[15:23] <DWSR> MonkeyDust: I'm converting the system without reinstalling.
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> DWSR  then simply install some other DE, logout, change, login
[15:24] <DWSR> MonkeyDust: Nox.
[15:24] <xzcvczx> DWSR: your space saving will also not be as great as you believe it will be
[15:24] <eltigre> hey I would like to upgrade to 13.04, but I can't, because all blogs/instructions I found want to do that with  update-manager -d and that won't let me upgrade to 13.04
[15:24] <IdleOne> DWSR: you can try http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu just don't do the install KDE part
[15:24] <DWSR> xzcvczx: 50% of system space.
[15:25] <DWSR> It's plenty large enough, thank you
[15:25] <DWSR> Alright.
[15:25] <DWSR> Fine, let's try this.
[15:25] <zykotick9> DWSR: you can try "aptitude unmarkauto foopackage", but i think you're headed for disaster...
[15:25] <wilee-nilee> eltigre, What is the release you are running?
[15:25] <IdleOne> I suggest you have a Live USB handy if/when you need to do a clean install.
[15:25] <eltigre> wilee-nilee, 12.10
[15:25] <colleenA> DWSR: run dpkg -l then awk or grep or sed iut out then push to file. then go into file take out packages that you want and run a while loop that say on every new line of file run apt-get --purge remove $line
[15:25] <iUnify> Hey guys, I had a few questions the other day, but, no one was around.  Well, today things have gotten a bit more serious.  My system is teetering on the edge.  I've been getting critical system errors non-stop (no freezes) and now there is the little blinking line (like in DOS for when you are going to type, ...or terminal.
[15:25] <DWSR> sudo 'Can you help me select all packages matching the following masks but $foo'?
[15:25] <`Z`> hi
[15:26] <DWSR> Don't give me grief, answer my question, please and thank you. I'm aware of the risks.
[15:26] <prp-e> Hi everybody :) tonight (23:00 - Tehran Time) - ##jabirproject channel , JabirOS birthday session
[15:26] <prp-e> Hi everybody :) tonight (23:00 - Tehran Time) - ##jabirproject channel , JabirOS birthday session
[15:26] <iUnify> In the top left corner of the screen.... everything is getting stuck, the window outlines, the mouse is clicking on its own everywhere
[15:26] <DWSR> Imagine I'm just appending every question with --force.
[15:26] <xzcvczx> iUnify: maybe an exorcist :P
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> eltigre, I would wait for it to be released, this problem alone makes one wonder if you can't get around it without help if you are making a wise decision. ;)
[15:26] <iUnify> and, ive no clue what to do other than re-install which i did once already and wiped free space.... soooo, hoping somone has some insight?
[15:27] <xzcvczx> iUnify: run top and see what your resource usage is doing
[15:27] <iUnify> ahhh, it's possessed!  Great, now I need an exorcist....
[15:27] <`Z`> Im using a Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP envy m6 laptop. I had some problem with the wifi card. I got it working by installing the rt3290 firmware and loading ath5k module. But I still can not connect to secured networks, it always say invalid password.
[15:28] <bekks> `Z`: rt2390 sounds like a realtek chipset - ath5k is atheros, not realtek.
[15:29] <iUnify>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[15:29] <iUnify>  2182 marco     20   0 1588m 280m  35m S  28.2  3.6  35:52.66 compiz
[15:29] <iUnify>  1267 root      20   0  337m 100m  10m S   8.9  1.3   6:22.99 Xorg
[15:29] <iUnify>  5903 marco     20   0  524m  19m  11m S   4.0  0.3   0:00.95 gnome-terminal
[15:29] <iUnify>  4683 marco     20   0 1029m 192m  41m S   3.6  2.4   1:05.78 firefox
[15:29] <FloodBot1> iUnify: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:29] <xzcvczx> `Z`: lspci and pastebin it
[15:29] <`Z`> kk
[15:29] <xzcvczx> iUnify: yeah don't paste into here
[15:29] <IdleOne> DWSR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705029/ would be the command but like the warning on the psychocats page says, I am not responsible and you should have a full backup.
[15:29] <`Z`> wait, let me try to load manually the rt firmware
[15:29] <`Z`> It will maybe work.
[15:29] <`Z`> brb
[15:29] <iUnify> sorry about that.... didn't realize.
[15:30] <xzcvczx> iUnify: don't post it just leave it running an watch it when your computer goes nuts
[15:30] <DWSR> IdleOne: Thank you. It's uninstalling some kernel modules that I was using, but heh.
[15:30] <xzcvczx> and you may see your cpu spikes
[15:30] <iUnify> gotcha, it's consistently nuts
[15:30] <iUnify> logging me off
[15:30] <IdleOne> DWSR: you can always reinstall those after
[15:30] <iUnify> going black
[15:30] <xzcvczx> or ram maybe its using swap
[15:30] <DWSR> IdleOne: Yeah, I'm ok with that.
[15:30] <xzcvczx> iUnify: maybe disconnect it from the network and see whether it keeps doing the smae thing
[15:30] <DWSR> IdleOne: I'm basically trying to strip everything down as much as possible to shove the system onto a 4GB memstick.
[15:31] <iUnify> you really think it could be the internet?
[15:31] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no, it could be a rootkit/virus or something but i am not sure
[15:31] <iUnify> okay, but, disconnecting would show me that?
[15:31] <xzcvczx> iUnify: or you just have funky hardware
[15:32] <xzcvczx> well yeah if its not connected the bad poltergeist can't cause issues for you
[15:32] <xzcvczx> as poltergeists require the internet to be able to communicate with computers
[15:32] <iUnify> gotcha
[15:32] <iUnify> let me see, brb
[15:32] <Robi33000> i need to install ubuntu for usb
[15:32] <esdf> anyone know why nautilus 3.8 segfaults whenever I click the search button or ctrl+l?
[15:32] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: #define instlal ubuntu for usb
[15:32] <DWSR> IdleOne: Again, thank you for just telling me the answer to my question. I realize the need to warn most users, but when I say I understand the risks, I really do mean it.
[15:33] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: if you mean you need to make a liveUSB to install ubuntu then say that
[15:33] <IdleOne> DWSR: sure thing. Hope it works for you.
[15:33] <iUnify> still issues
[15:33] <elielton> oi
[15:33] <xzcvczx> iUnify: install kazam and record some and upload it to youtube so we can get a laugh out of it
[15:34] <IdleOne> !usb | Robi33000
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> Robi33000, Is it a full install to a usb, or a ISO loaded to install on a computer.
[15:34] <iUnify> is this going to help solve anything or for pure comical value?
[15:34] <`Z`> so
[15:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: potentially, might allow us to see whats going on
[15:34] <GTAXL> Are the repositories the same for Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu server? Just curious, cuz I'm running server applications off Ubuntu Desktop..
[15:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: leave top open and visible though
[15:34] <iUnify> right on, I really appreciate the help
[15:34] <`Z`> Im already loading the rt3290sta module on boot, with /etc/module, appended rt3290sta
[15:34] <IdleOne> GTAXL: yes
[15:34] <`Z`> here is my lscpi
[15:34] <GTAXL> ok
[15:34] <iUnify> i figured, cool, thx
[15:34] <GTAXL> thanks
[15:35] <xzcvczx> iUnify: thats not to say we won't be laughing though
[15:35] <iUnify> lol, as you should be.
[15:35] <`Z`> http://pastebin.com/pCgTSEy2
[15:35] <DWSR> IdleOne: This command uninstalls build-essentials.
[15:35] <DWSR> IdleOne: Yuck.
[15:35] <IdleOne> DWSR: it will, no biggie.
[15:36] <DWSR> IdleOne: Indeed. Still though
[15:36] <`Z`> here is my rfkill : http://pastebin.com/hvyAKbe4
[15:36] <`Z`> nothing suspect
[15:36] <DWSR> IdleOne: Surprised that a command that I would consider to be a 'power user' command would remove autotools.
[15:36] <`Z`> I can scan wifi using iwlist, and it scan and detect the encryption correctly using wicd
[15:37] <iUnify> xxvczczx: Any suggestions for a YouCam alternative (webcam app)... I record songs I play on guitar and evwntually need something.
[15:37] <IdleOne> DWSR: this is why we suggested doing a clean install. the command will remove some packages that you would not expect to be removed.
[15:37] <Robi33000> i need to install ubuntu but the USB dont boot
[15:37] <`Z`> I think it may be a problem with the encryption stuff, since I can connect perfectly to unsecured network and having problems with the secured ones
[15:37] <Robi33000> can you elp
[15:37] <Robi33000> help
[15:37] <oh> Hey, im having trouble with my samba share, newly created files/directorys over smb share will only have 'xr' permission when created via network. I already set the create mask and directory mask(in smb.conf) to 0775 but that does not work, maybe someone can tell me what im doing wrong here
[15:37] <Smashcat> Anyone used an OCZ Agility 4 SSD in Ubuntu. Getting slow speeds from latest install. Got 2 machines, virtually identical except the new one has double the RAM (32GB) and a faster CPU (i7 9770K vs i5 3740). Both have the same MB and boot/OS SSD. The i5 one reports reads of 412MB/sec (10.9GB.sec cached), writes of 429MB/sec. New one reads 410MB/sec (9GB/sec cached), writes 262MB/sec. New...
[15:37] <Smashcat> ...machine should really be quicker.
[15:37] <xzcvczx> `Z`: hmm odd i can't even see your wifi device in lspci
[15:37] <IdleOne> Robi33000: make sure that your BIOS are set to boot from USB
[15:37] <`Z`> yeah, you do, see the line with device 3290 xzcvczx
[15:37] <xzcvczx> iUnify: cheese? does it do video?
[15:38] <iUnify> xzvczczx: i think i looked for cheese with no luck
[15:38] <`Z`> it's a realtek 3290 :)
[15:38] <xzcvczx> `Z`: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:38] <`Z`> 12.10
[15:38] <DWSR> IdleOne: Again, I am aware of the risks, which is why I'm not doing this command as a purge.
[15:38] <kb3gtn> `Z`: possible solution for ralink wifi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104129
[15:39] <xzcvczx> oh: mask != mode
[15:39] <DWSR> IdleOne: Is there a ubuntu-server meta package?
[15:39] <`Z`> kb3gtn, already done
[15:39] <oh> okay i will look into that, thanks
[15:39] <`Z`> that's how I got my card detected
[15:39] <`Z`> Then it was "hard locked" in rfkill
[15:39] <iUnify> recording... hopefully my computer acts up as usual, thus far nothing... such is my life!
[15:40] <IdleOne> DWSR: I don't believe there is
[15:40] <`Z`> I found some workaround to solve this problem
[15:41] <DWSR> IdleOne: if I want to boot the box to text only mode, is there a grub CLI utility for this or can I just sudoedit
[15:42] <IdleOne> the !nox factoid tells you how
[15:45] <`Z`> ok I think im going to get back on debian.
[15:45] <sdrhrgjkng> I have a problem... My mouse has developed free will. It instantly moves large distances across the screen every so often. I've tried the mouse on windows so it isn't the mouse. This didn't used to happen.
[15:45] <DWSR> IdleOne: No, it doesn't. It links to a page where the sectino header has been removed. The factoid needs updating.
[15:45] <iUnify> xzvczczx: it wont record.  everytime i look back "record" needs to be clicked again
[15:45] <iUnify> but, it starts and says its about to record...5....4...3..2...1
[15:46] <thinkinhurtz> I created a new users on my system, and now I can not launch libreoffice as any user due to permission error... any help?
[15:46] <GA89> hi. need help, installed updates, restarted pc and it just froze  so i shut it down and now ubuntu doesnt load
[15:46] <xzcvczx> thinkinhurtz: well whats the persmiision error?
[15:46] <xzcvczx> iUnify: hmm odd
[15:46] <iUnify> yaaa
[15:46] <GA89> error loading shared libraries,
[15:46] <xzcvczx> iUnify: try booting from a livecd and see whether same behaviour is experienced
[15:47] <thinkinhurtz> it just doesn't launch, but forum posts suggest permission problem.
[15:47] <xzcvczx> thinkinhurtz: try launching from command line
[15:47] <iUnify> so, when i installed ubuntu i had it on usb, you mean, boot from there?  or restart and...?
[15:47] <xzcvczx> yeah
[15:48] <xzcvczx> just use the live version
[15:48] <culpn8r> i am trying to connect my wireless but i get "ERROR: Module b43 does not exist in /proc/modules". i never had this issue until i recently upgraded to linux-headers-3.5.0-27-generic on 12.10
[15:48] <GA89> any suggestion? should i reinstall?
[15:48] <iUnify> ok be back in a few, again, thx for the help
[15:48] <thinkinhurtz> no launch, no error message. cant find a verbose option
[15:48] <thinkinhurtz> libre will launch from the command line with sudo however
[15:49] <xzcvczx> culpn8r: sudo modprobe b43
[15:49] <culpn8r> xzcvczx run that before installing the bcmwl-kernel-source?
[15:49] <xzcvczx> culpn8r: well b43 is rubbish anyway, try running jockey or whatever and install the restricted driver for your wifi
[15:50] <xzcvczx> thinkinhurtz: well if you have managed to nuke your libreoffice permissions i find it very unlikely all you did was add some users to your system
[15:50] <culpn8r> xzcvczx: ive tried using the one in the restricted drivers menu but that doesnt work either. i also have to manually start networking with 'sudo dhclient eth0' just to get ethernet working
[15:51] <iUnify> OK, I didn't get a chance to start live but restart fixed some weirdness.... again, got the system program error right away again... which i get frequently.
[15:52] <betrayd> iUnify: i think its best you follow the advice to run Live
[15:52] <betrayd> bec. he has a plan in troubleshooting your original problem
[15:52] <xzcvczx> iUnify: did you md5sum your image before you burned/usb'd it?
[15:53] <Takagami> Anyone know if the current beta of Elementary OS supports UEFI?
[15:53] <iUnify> very possibly not as I don't know what that means.
[15:53] <xzcvczx> Takagami: maybe ask in the elemenatry chat room?
[15:53] <Takagami> I did... it's pretty dead in there today
[15:54] <Takagami> I would assume as it is based off the ubuntu core and uses the same installer core...
[15:54] <oh> When a directory is created with a mask 0775, then group should have write permission correct ?
[15:54] <Takagami> Just wondering if anyone uses it on a UEFI system... or has had experience in here..
[15:54] <xzcvczx> well we are not to know how much divergence there is so not willing to say yay or nay
[15:54] <xzcvczx> oh: nope
[15:55] <Takagami> Thanks anyways... guess I will just give it a shot when it finished downloading...
[15:55] <Robi33000> I need to boot from USB the 12
[15:55] <Robi33000> Can you help me
[15:55] <Robi33000> I need to boot from USB the 12
[15:55] <Robi33000> Can you help me
[15:55] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: for the 8th time what os do you run?
[15:56] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: each time you never answer any questions
[15:56] <Robi33000> windows
[15:56] <Robi33000> xp
[15:56] <iUnify> Am I going to need to re DL 12.10 and md5 the disk?  I do not have any idea what that means or how to do it.
[15:56] <gp5st> is there anyway to get all the data exchanged in an ssh session, my ssh session
[15:56] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[15:57] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no i was more curious as to whether you still had the image you downloaded
[15:57] <iUnify> thats what i used to create mine
[15:57] <iUnify> i do
[15:57] <iUnify> oh no
[15:57] <iUnify> i have it on the usb
[15:57] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: Don't PM without asking first
[15:57] <WACOMalt> Is there aNY way to control the fan on a laptop that sensors-detect doesnt find any fan controllers?
[15:57] <iUnify> as is, maybe i saved it packed as well though
[15:57] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no i mean the image itself
[15:58] <delocaz> So can anyone help me installing Xubuntu? It still blackscreens after the "Xubuntu 12.10" "...." screen, then randomly flashes a cursor. I have tried: MD5 checking, nomodeset.
[15:58] <iUnify> gotcha
[15:58] <martyla> What reason would make my logitech G930 headset cause the unity UI to become unresponsive? (i.e. clicking on any of the HUD doesn't react, can't open/close/maximize etc, however shortcuts like ctrl+alt+T still work and bring up terminal). This occurs on login with about a 50% chance, and logging into guest account and then back to normal user fixes it.
[15:58] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: so are you following the link i sent you
[15:58]  * oh
[15:58] <iUnify> so, should I re-instll?  "System Program Error" sounds rather serious... keeps asking me if the computer locked up, which, it hasen't
[15:58] <xzcvczx> martyla: bluetooth?
[15:59]  * oh
[15:59] <xzcvczx> ohno: must you keep doing /me
[15:59] <xzcvczx> iUnify: nah try running live for a bit and see if you get smae issues
[16:00] <iUnify> ok, how do i run live?  F2/4 on startup?
[16:00] <xzcvczx> doesn't ubuntu still auto run as live then you install from inside the live environment?
[16:01] <iUnify> sorry man, not following you
[16:01] <xzcvczx> iUnify: well what happens when you boot off the usb drive normally?
[16:01] <iUnify> i never do
[16:01] <iUnify> i wiped my drive
[16:02] <iUnify> installed ubuntu
[16:02] <iUnify> from that usb
[16:02] <xzcvczx> well when you install surely you did
[16:02] <iUnify> never use it anymore
[16:02] <FloodBot1> iUnify: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <xzcvczx> iUnify: well see whther you can find the option to run live
[16:02] <iUnify> so i should put the usb in and run from there you are saying?
[16:03] <iUnify> for example, it asks if you want to try before installing
[16:03] <betrayd> nice
[16:03] <xzcvczx> iUnify: thats the one
[16:03] <betrayd> thats live alright
[16:04] <xzcvczx> betrayd: as opposed to dead? :P
[16:04] <iUnify> cool thanks
[16:04] <betrayd> lol (try with H Keitel voice)
[16:04] <te> Anyone know where the logs for this channel are?
[16:05] <theadmin> te: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[16:05] <te> I'm looking at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/ but don't see #ubuntu
[16:05] <kumarat9pm> I mess up with my ubuntu..
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> te  the logs havnet been updated for some time, few weeks, even
[16:05] <te> Oh ok.
[16:05] <kumarat9pm> I am unable to press contunusly any button..
[16:06] <te> Thanks anyway.
[16:06] <kumarat9pm> I have to press multiple times a key for doing a task repetitivly..
[16:06] <kumarat9pm> any suggetion?
[16:06] <te> I had a conversation with someone on the 4th and wish I could recall some details about it.  Oh well.
[16:06] <delocaz> So can anyone help me installing Xubuntu? It still blackscreens after the 4 dots and "Xubuntu 12.10" screen, then randomly flashes a cursor. I have tried: MD5 checking, nomodeset.
[16:06] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: err what do you mean
[16:07] <jaysql> hellow
[16:07] <theadmin> delocaz: Might want to wait, it might take a while for the GUI to actually start, especially if running from a slow device
[16:08] <kumarat9pm> xzcvczx: for example I want to go to starting of the prompt or some sentences, previously I used to press continuously left arrow, but now I have to press multiple times left arrow to go to starting
[16:08] <jaysql> I am trying to install Abiword on Ubuntu 10.04. However I am short of dependencies, and the OS doesnt have Internet access. I googled and googled. Can you point me in the right direction pls?
[16:08] <te> jaysql: I think 10.04 is EOL
[16:08] <jaysql> yres
[16:08] <jaysql> it is
[16:08] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: you mean holding it down doesn't work?
[16:08] <sdrhrgjkng> Figured it out. Forgot I had my wacom plugged in and the pen had fallen onto the pad.
[16:08] <te> (as of just few days ago.)
[16:09] <kumarat9pm> yes xzcvczx
[16:09] <delocaz> theadmin: I have left it for several hours...
[16:09] <theadmin> delocaz: Oh, never mind then, hmm...
[16:09] <leolove> I need a question
[16:09] <leolove> I mean answer :p
[16:09] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: then check your keyboard settings
[16:09] <jaysql> Does anyone know where I could get Abiword Dependencies for Offline Install, please?
[16:09] <theadmin> leolove: 42
[16:09] <leolove> I am running 12.10 at the moment and have problems with my gpu. Should I download and install 12.04 instead?
[16:09] <xzcvczx> theadmin: therefore i need the question to your answer
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> xzcvczx: I did I missed it
[16:10] <xzcvczx> leolove: what gpu
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> thanks for pointing it
[16:10] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: huh?
[16:10] <leolove> Radeon HD
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> te, may 9th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> I am able to do holding down
[16:10] <theadmin> jaysql: You can "sudo apt-get clean;sudo apt-get -d install abiword" on a machine with internet connection, then fetch the packages from  /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[16:10] <theadmin> jaysql: If not possible, there's always http://packages.ubuntu.com but that'll take a while as manually downloading all deps can be tedious.
[16:10] <jaysql> theadmin, will that include dependencies as well?
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> thanks xzcvczx
[16:10] <theadmin> yacks: Yes
[16:10] <te> wilee-nilee: is that the newest?
[16:11] <leolove> ubuntu 12.10 does not have stock updates after 3.5.0-27
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> te, newest, that has always been the date.
[16:11] <te> wilee-nilee: Sorry, irrelevant comment.
[16:11]  * Smashcat is annoyed that a new Agility 4 SSD is actually slower than the old Agility 3. Should have saved money and bought the old one for new build
[16:12] <leolove> what is the recent updatae available for 12.04? are they offering 3.8 kernel on 12.04?
[16:12] <leolove> via normal software update ?
[16:12] <theadmin> leolove: Nope.
[16:12] <te> wilee-nilee: You are correct, 10.04 reached EOL on the 9th
[16:12] <theadmin> !latest | leolove
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> leolove, 3.2.0-40 is the latest
[16:12] <xzcvczx> isn't may 9th next month?
[16:13] <leolove> and any experience if 12.04 is better or not with ati proprietary drivers ?
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> te, No, it reachs eol next month on the 9ty
[16:13] <leolove> I tried with 12.10....no matter what I configure, i always has tearing :(
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> 9th*
[16:13] <theadmin> leolove: Well, they at least work, from what I heard they hardly do in 12.10
[16:13] <leolove> theadmin : so I should get 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[16:13] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: the 10.04 factoid says April for desktop support ending for 10.04?
[16:13] <xzcvczx> leolove: i have never had much luck with ati on linux
[16:14] <theadmin> leolove: My general idea is to always grab LTS unless you just want to play around with latest features.
[16:14] <leolove> theadmin : thank you. I am going to download 12.04 and will be back ;)
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> i use the latest, for support purposes
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I see may 9th here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> MonkeyDust: For support purposes, as opposed to? I would recommend using the !LTS if you're worried about support.
[16:15] <betrayd> HE does the support
[16:16] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: As in, to provide help to others
[16:16] <leolove> MonkeyDust : You will always get more support for LTS :) It is my experience
[16:16] <betrayd> he the man
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> *facepalm* I knew that... :\
[16:16] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: sure enough.  factoid is wrong.  thanks.  10.04LTS's EOL will be a very sad day for me...
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> leolove  i meant *giving* support
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: 12 days, my friend. 12 days.
[16:16] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I thought april as well. ;)
[16:17] <zykotick9> !10.04
[16:17] <amp> delocaz: are you running an nVidia GT240 by any chance?
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: For me, April 25th will be the end of an ear.
[16:17] <iUnify> alright, so, my boot aparently isn't set to load from USB anymore, so, when I did the restart I hit F2 which brought me to a screen asking if I wanted to boot recovery, whic hI did... the process completly screwed up.... something to the extent of timeout kill..... and, than another screen with options and that timeout kll message just kept screwing up ghosting over the screen.... than it froze... i shut off pc hard, and it started
[16:17] <iUnify> fine... imeadiatly many program system errors.  i am still going to do as you said now and run live but i wanted to give you an update and see if you had anything else to say.
[16:18] <xzcvczx> iUnify: redownload the ubuntu image md5sum it and reinstall
[16:18] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: Or the end of an *ERA I hope (I don't wanna be another Van Gogh)
[16:18] <ohnoxyz> Im still trying to get smb folder permission of created directorys to allow writing for the group, conf file says i should set the "directory mask = 0775" to get group write permission but i was told mask = 0775 will not do this ?
[16:18] <Sternslovc> some awful noob questions here, can the movie player (totem) play streamtorrent or ace stream files?
[16:18] <iUnify> ok, md5sum, is that  filetype?
[16:18] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Usually, mask is the opposite of permissions, that is, mask 777 will result in 000 permissions
[16:19] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Not sure if that's the case for Samba.
[16:20] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Sounds you want 0002
[16:20] <xzcvczx> theadmin: you make it too easy
[16:20] <theadmin> xzcvczx: ?
[16:20] <zykotick9> theadmin: i's call umask a "subtraction" (instead of opposite) of full permissions (your point / example still correct ;)
[16:20] <ohnoxyz> theadmin: the smb.conf has comment says "If you want to
[16:20] <ohnoxyz> # create dirs. with group=rw permissions, set next parameter to 0775."
[16:20] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Well, if it's in the comment and you didn't put the comment there, it's gotta be right :P
[16:20] <xzcvczx> theadmin: this is about his 5th nick that he has used now trying to get help with that and i have advised him that mask != mode
[16:21] <ohnoxyz> theadmin: well it should be ;)
[16:24] <Sternslovc> sorry to be an ass but is anyone able to shed some light on how to open streamtorrent or acestream files on ubuntu?
[16:24] <ohnoxyz> xzcvczx: really sorry im changing my nick here, and i tried looking up the difference(mask != mode) but im a bit confused because of the difference what comments in the conf says and what that normal mask behavior is ...
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !language | Sternslovc
[16:25] <theadmin> Sternslovc: Please watch the language. And you're not being that at all, asking is perfectly reasonable (that's what the channel's here for), but sometimes you may need to wait before you get an answer. If you don't want to sit here waiting, you can use http://askubuntu.com instead.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> Sternslovc, those names are not media type descriptions, you have to be exacting.
[16:26] <Sternslovc> http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=199092&part=sports  On windows, you can click on most of those links
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> mp4,ogg...eyc
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> etc*
[16:26] <Sternslovc> I've installed Sopcast to watch some football, but it's in russian.
[16:26] <delocaz> amp: I have no idea what graphics card it has
[16:26] <iUnify> should i format my usb as well?
[16:27] <compdoc> which is in russian, Sopcast or the football match?
[16:27] <bekks> iUnify: Why do you want to do it?
[16:27] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no
[16:27] <Sternslovc> I've sopcast running, the feed is russian, it's an english game.
[16:27] <xzcvczx> iUnify: what device is your usb drive on
[16:27] <xzcvczx> /dev/sd[a-e]?
[16:27] <Sternslovc> But the higher quality English feeds use different streaming methods, acestream and streamtorrent
[16:28] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: sorry i am not sure we can help you with illegal streaming methods in here
[16:28] <delocaz> amp: I think it's integrated something
[16:28] <Sternslovc> Ah ok.
[16:28] <Sternslovc> It's not illegal though
[16:28] <iUnify> again, appoligies, device?  It's plugged into my usb on my laptop.
[16:29] <uw> rythembox can go fk itself
[16:29] <Sternslovc> In the UK it's illegal to provide the stream but perfectly legal to watch the stream
[16:29] <Sternslovc> Just gonna scrub up on my russian
[16:29] <amp> delocaz: I had a similar issue with Xubuntu black screen, it was a bug and I had to install nVidia propriety driver
[16:29] <uw> I would rather use a realmedia player from the 90's over rythembox
[16:30] <amp> delocaz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/993907
[16:30] <iUnify> also, last time i used a downloaded application to put the files on the usb, i am thinking i should just unzip the iso to the usb this time, correct?
[16:30] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: well regardless neither sopcast nor anything like that is remotely related to ubuntu so not the best channel to ask in
[16:30] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no
[16:30] <zykotick9> delocaz: if you want to find you graphics card, in a terminal try "lspci -vnn | grep -i vga"
[16:31] <xzcvczx> iUnify: open up disks
[16:31] <xzcvczx> and see whether you can find mention of /dev/sd...
[16:31] <iUnify> home folder?  devices?
[16:32] <Sternslovc> ah ok, thanks anyway
[16:32] <iUnify> Don't know how to open disks otherwise.... i juuuust got into linux, sorry to be a pita
[16:32] <xzcvczx> iUnify: open up a terminal windows
[16:32] <xzcvczx> and type in mount
[16:32] <iUnify> yep
[16:32] <xzcvczx> or df -h and find the one that looks like your usb device
[16:32] <Sternslovc> language iUnify
[16:33] <iUnify> lol, I speak English.
[16:33] <delocaz> How do you change your keyboard layout from a terminal?
[16:33] <iUnify> ok typed mount
[16:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: now can you find one that looks like it might be your usb drive
[16:34] <delocaz> 'cause I have no idea where the | key is on an english keyboard
[16:34] <xzcvczx> or try df -h and use the size to find the one that is your usb drive
[16:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: or unplug it then plug it in again and straight after run 'dmesg' and look for /dev/sd...
[16:35] <Sternslovc> iUnify:  copy and paste it from wikipedia
[16:35] <zykotick9> delocaz: you could try (but this is untested by me on ubuntu) "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[16:35] <iUnify> how do i properly unmount the drive before unplugging?
[16:35] <xzcvczx> iUnify: don't worry about it
[16:35] <xzcvczx> just yank it
[16:37] <iUnify> ok and how do i properly paste this info here?
[16:37] <xzcvczx> you don't
[16:37] <xzcvczx> past to pastebin.com if you want to
[16:37] <iUnify> ok so im looking for
[16:37] <iUnify> ok
[16:37] <xzcvczx> or figure out which one it is
[16:37] <iUnify> store n go
[16:37] <xzcvczx> if you unplugged it and plugged it back in it will be right near the bottom in dmesg
[16:37] <xzcvczx> you are looking for /dev/sdc...
[16:37] <iUnify> that is it.... what ino do i need from it?
[16:37] <xzcvczx> /dev/sd...
[16:37] <xzcvczx> rather
[16:38] <zykotick9> delocaz: fyi, | is typically above ENTER but needs shift
[16:38] <xzcvczx> replacing ... with a letter and a number probably
[16:38] <xzcvczx> or maybe just a letter
[16:38] <rainbowwarrior> hello all , have i got a virus or is it something else, as somehow my hd keeps getting full although I am not adding any new software etc , can someone please help me and thank you ?
[16:39] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: cd /;du -sh *
[16:39] <Sternslovc> mine is on \
[16:39] <xzcvczx> and it will tell you where its all being used
[16:39] <jaysql> yes it a windows virus.
[16:39] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: adjustment to xzcvczx's command "cd /" then "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" to get rid of the errors
[16:40] <iUnify> http://pastebin.com/0mkz0uP5
[16:40] <rainbowwarrior> thank you xzcvczx and zykotick9
[16:41] <xzcvczx> iUnify: dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[16:41] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: is /var really big?
[16:42] <iUnify> and....?  :/  learning....at least! ha.
[16:42] <xzcvczx> iUnify: and what?
[16:42] <rainbowwarrior> zykotick9 , var is 179.8 MB
[16:42] <iUnify> what do i do with that info
[16:42] <xzcvczx> iUnify: run that command replacing /path/to/ubuntu.iso with the path to the actual iso
[16:42] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: ;) that's not big...  well good luck.
[16:42] <xzcvczx> in a terminal
[16:42] <rainbowwarrior> ty zykotick9
[16:42] <iUnify> gotcha sorry man
[16:43] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: how big is your drive?
[16:43] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: run df -h and pastebin it
[16:43] <fsapo> hi, if I install 13.04 beta will I be able to upgrade to the final version or will have to reinstall from scratch?
[16:44] <xzcvczx> you will be able ot upgrade
[16:44] <fsapo> xzcvczx ok, thanks.
[16:44] <xzcvczx> but unless you are happy to have a system that may not be 100% its not recommended
[16:44] <xzcvczx> fsapo: and for future reference #ubuntu+1 is better for next version discussion
[16:44] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: adjustment to xzcvczx's command "df -h | egrep '\''(Size|root|sd)'\'' " ;)  that one might be too fancy.  maybe "df -h | grep sd" is more reasonable.
[16:45] <fsapo> xzcvczx thats not a problem, the only problem is having to reconfigure everything, if that was the case I would wait
[16:45] <xzcvczx> zykotick9: must you :P
[16:45] <delocaz> Well, since my problem apparently can't be fixed, i'm gonna try Debian :)
[16:45] <iUnify> xzcvczx: What would the directory be if it's just in my DL folder, under the home folder.... I renamed the file to ubuntu.iso already.
[16:45] <fsapo> also, i read that there are some issues with chrome, will I be able to install chrome?
[16:46] <xzcvczx> iUnify: dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[16:46] <dr_willis> fsapo:  what issues?
[16:46] <xzcvczx> fsapo: well i have no idea what these issues are
[16:46] <xzcvczx> fsapo: and if its only on 13.04 please discuss in #ubuntu+1
[16:46] <dr_willis> chrme works here
[16:46] <iUnify> x so much, doing this now
[16:46] <iUnify> *thx
[16:47] <iUnify> permission denied
[16:47] <xzcvczx> iUnify: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[16:48] <rainbowwarrior> xzcvczx :- http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705270/
[16:48] <zykotick9> xzcvczx: using cat instead of dd, was the intended method for creating hybrid iso/usb usb installers.  with ubuntu, that's a little bit harding due to the redirect breaking sudo (but can be done, with sudo 'command' or running sudo -i first.  dd should work just fine, but i'm just saying this isn't "really" the origianlly suggested method.
[16:48] <fsapo> xzcvczx I'm looking for the link, but the wiki says it was built with a different lib than 13.04 and chromium should be used instead, but the docs might be outdated
[16:48] <zykotick9> s/harding/harder/
[16:49] <theadmin> zykotick9: Ubuntu images are hybrid by default, it works just fine. WIth older releases, you may need to preprocess images with "isohybrid" utility first
[16:49] <riobe> Anyone else here use pidgin? I installed it from the software center and when I open it or click it from the letter icon in the notification menu, no buddy list or UI comes up at all. I have no idea how to interact with it. Can anyone help?
[16:49] <dr_willis> fsapo: it worked yesterday fir me
[16:49] <zykotick9> theadmin: i know.  my point, is cat was the originally devised way of creating those usb images.
[16:49] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: then yeah you will need to run the du -sh * and see where its all being used
[16:49] <xzcvczx> fsapo: then #ubuntu+1 please
[16:50] <rainbowwarrior> ok thank you xzcvczx
[16:50] <fsapo> ok, but anyway https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview its in the Known Issues
[16:50]  * xzcvczx chases zykotick9 with moe sizlacks knife
[16:51] <Sternslovc> xzcvczx:  seriously, he's only looking for help
[16:51] <rainbowwarrior> hmm biggest is dropbox just over 700 MB lol
[16:51] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: no hes not
[16:52] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: then you did not do the cd /
[16:52] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: you want to start at the root of the drive and go from there
[16:52] <rainbowwarrior> yeah sorry my fault forgot to cd /
[16:52] <Sternslovc> Perhaps he/she is like Bono then
[16:52] <riobe> Looks like restarting it fixed it.
[16:53] <Sternslovc> As they still haven't found what they are looking for
[16:54] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: i refer you to the messages from zykotick9 at 4:39 and 4:44 and 4:48 as to my good reasons for chasing him down with a knife :P
[16:55] <xzcvczx> replace 4: with the hour that it currently is in your corner of the world
[16:56] <Sternslovc> 5
[16:56] <Sternslovc> where on earth are you?
[16:56] <Sternslovc> mauritania?
[16:56] <Sternslovc> oh not 16 4, fookin ell
[16:56] <Sternslovc> miles away
[16:56] <xzcvczx> Sun Apr 14 04:56:57 NZST 2013
[16:57] <Sternslovc> in that land with the confusing flag
[16:57] <xzcvczx> hows it confusing?
[16:57] <xzcvczx> because it has the union crack on it
[16:57] <DarkAceZ> How do I change the number of open files limit in Linux?
[16:57] <xzcvczx> s/crack/jack/
[16:58] <kelabot> hey guys is it normal when i create a bucket "xyz" in s3 and go to http://xyz.s3.amazonaws.com -- it will show "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below" -- is this normal?
[16:58] <Sternslovc> all those stars
[16:58] <xzcvczx> kelabot: not ubuntu related
[16:58] <Sternslovc> Australia newzealands cook islands?
[16:58] <kelabot> :)
[16:58] <kelabot> xzcvczx: if someone may know
[16:59] <SonikkuAmerica> xzcvczx: The heck is the union crack
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> union jack
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> heh I was just watching foghorn leghorn the southern rooster, lol
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> wilee-nilee: Never knew there was so much disrespect for the British flag.
[17:01] <Vivekananda> can someone point me to libre office channel. I am looking for templates and wanted to ask about resume templates there
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: #libreoffice ?
[17:01] <DJones> !alis | Vivekananda
[17:01] <theadmin> Vivekananda: #libreoffice
[17:02] <Sternslovc> http://i.imgur.com/KNmQ2aZ.png  not entirely ubuntu related
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Sternslovc, thought I'd let you know
[17:02] <iUnify> so i am good to go now?
[17:02] <xzcvczx> SonikkuAmerica: its not really disrespect.... it was just an accidental mistype.... the letters are so close together
[17:02] <DJones> Sternslovc: If its not Ubuntu releated, why post it here then?
[17:02] <xzcvczx> iUnify: so the command finished?
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> xzcvczx: lol
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, They were the ultimate imperialist power before the U.S. took over.
[17:03] <xzcvczx> SonikkuAmerica: in saying that i wish we would get a real flag instead of our currento ne
[17:03] <iUnify> yes. 763+0 records in   |   763+0 records out   |   800063488 bytes (800 MB) copied, 138.787 s, 5.8 MB/s
[17:03] <xzcvczx> then good to go
[17:03]  * DJones points xzcvczx to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:03] <Vivekananda> DJones: thanks
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | wilee-nilee, xzcvczx, I'm done talking, lol
[17:05] <Eagleman> I am having some problems with DNS, i am unable to resolve anything with dig:  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached  I disabled my firewall, tried restarting bind9 ( I am running my own dns server for caching ) but nothing works, any idea why it stopped working?
[17:05] <Vivekananda> DJones: one typing /ms g   alis help libreoffice it says -- Returning maximum of 60 channel names matching 'libreoffice'. But where do I see this list .
[17:05] <iUnify> good then?
[17:05] <Sternslovc> does someone else's ie google DNS work?
[17:06] <DJones> Vivekananda: You should get another window opening with the list
[17:06] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: look for a private message from alis, or in your "root" irc window
[17:06] <Eagleman> Sternslovc, you are asking if <IP_ADDRESS> works?
[17:07] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: dig @<IP_ADDRESS> stuff.co.nz
[17:07] <Vivekananda> DJones: nope nothing here , no pm s
[17:07] <Vivekananda> client is xchat on ubuntu precise
[17:07] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, no responde
[17:08] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, pff, i just did route -n and the default route is gone
[17:08] <Eagleman> aigan
[17:08] <DJones> Vivekananda: I don't use xchat, probably better if you join #freenode and ask there
[17:08] <Vivekananda> ok will do
[17:08] <ineedahelpa> hi
[17:08] <ineedahelpa> can somone help me
[17:08] <Eagleman> So the question would be: Why is my default route being reset to nothing when restarting my ubuntu server?
[17:09] <DJones> ineedahelpa: We don't know, you haven't asked a support question yet
[17:09] <netherlands6> Hi I just install ubuntu 13.04 and follow the tutorial mentionning windows 8 system with uefi and I created an /boot/efi and during the installation ask to put the grub on this partition but when installation done and restarting I got an error said that I have no grub
[17:10] <ineedahelpa> i need money
[17:10] <DJones> ineedahelpa: Well, wrong channel, this is Ubuntu support
[17:11] <ineedahelpa> DJones:  i need money so i can buy new laptop to instal ubunto on it ok?
[17:11] <DJones> ineedahelpa: We can't help with that
[17:11] <Eagleman> Since when can you get loans here?
[17:12] <netherlands6> lol is an community help channel not gouvernement financial
[17:12] <ineedahelpa> i am just kiding
[17:12] <xzcvczx> netherlands6: please use #ubuntu+1
[17:12] <ineedahelpa> i need help whit wifi driwers
[17:13] <DJones> ineedahelpa: In that case, remember this is a support channel, offtopic comments should be made in another channel
[17:13] <Eagleman> Why is my default route lost up on rebooting my ubuntu server?
[17:13] <ineedahelpa> i want to use win drivers but dont know how to get ndiswraper if no internet
[17:13] <iUnify> am i good with those results to install now?
[17:13] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, How are you on IRC?
[17:13] <zykotick9> For anyone interested in Vivekananda's alis problem, when i tried it same thing "returning max of 60 channels..." but no output?  you need to use *s in your search so, "/msg alis list *libreoffice*" works with results.
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  that's the normal way, yes
[17:14] <ineedahelpa> Lartza: dont understand what is a point of your quiestion?
[17:14] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, "dont know how to get ndiswraper if no internet"
[17:14] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: without * it doesn't, this isn't my expected grep-like behaviour ;)
[17:14] <DJones> zykotick9: Probably best notifying #freenode as alis is their bot
[17:15] <isuru> hey guys i using a dongle for internet conncection but i can't view sms on current connectivity tool please tell me tool to get dongle sms and send sms ?
[17:15] <zykotick9> DJones: it's thanks to Vivekananda asking in #freenode, i got the answer
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  * is quite commonly used to look for a name
[17:15] <debbie_> i am having trouble with youtube-screenlets, can anyone help me
[17:15] <xzcvczx> isuru: most likely not possible
[17:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  aaaaaaaaaa now i get i am on other sistem
[17:15] <xzcvczx> isuru: you will need to ask the manufacturer of the device or provider
[17:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  dual boot
[17:16] <xzcvczx> iUnify: yeah install
[17:16] <isuru> That a huwai dongle
[17:16] <iUnify> ty
[17:16] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Then I would suggest moving the .deb packages to your Ubuntu and installing offline
[17:16] <Eagleman> Why is my default route lost up on rebooting my ubuntu server?
[17:16] <xzcvczx> isuru: doesn't change anything.... the software they release is only for windows, so you can use windows or complain to huawei that there is no linux software
[17:16] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Either by mounting partitions of the other systems or a removable media
[17:17] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: is your dhcp server setting it correctly?
[17:17] <isuru> :(
[17:17] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: if its set up manually its not designed to be retained across reboots unless you store it in the correct configuration files
[17:17] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, its not smart to run a "server" on a dhcp address, i am using a static address
[17:17] <BluesKaj> ineedahelpa, download ndiswrapper  , copy to a stick and plug the stick into the ubuntu machine
[17:17] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  so i just make install thet .deb package or do i need some more tools
[17:17] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: where do you configure the default route then?
[17:17] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, dpkg -i, no make install
[17:18] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Download the correct one for your release and architechture from packages.ubuntu.com
[17:18] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, can it be set in /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:18] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  this will download dpkg but wont install it so i will heave setup
[17:18] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, ?
[17:19] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: well check the documentation
[17:20] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  look i am noob
[17:20] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, ok thanks, looks like: gateway <IP_ADDRESS>   does the trick
[17:21] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Download the deb files from packages.ubuntu.com, move them to Ubuntu with any method you like, USB etc and install them with dpkg
[17:21] <xzcvczx> ineedahelpa: a noob asks for hints doesn't demand hand holding
[17:22] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  ok i download deb pacages then move them to usb and i install them whit dpkg command?
[17:22] <Lartza> Yes
[17:22] <MrUnagi> Is it possible to use an active rsync transfer to set up a reverse ssh
[17:22] <xzcvczx> no
[17:22] <Robi33000> the 12 veision install and repeat install and repeat why
[17:22] <Robi33000> it did no fix on hd
[17:22] <Robi33000> the 12 veision install and repeat install and repeat why
[17:22] <Robi33000> it did no fix on hd
[17:22] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  sorry just i newer used dpkg command so i dident know what wher you talikning about thanks for help
[17:23] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, If you have problems remember that there's man :)
[17:23] <neopsyche> Hi all.. trying to access ubuntu share not working anyone know how?
[17:23] <ineedahelpa> ahhaahah
[17:23] <neopsyche> I can see the share .. but there is a timeout.. / inaccessible
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Lartza: And woman, ready to help you help us help you help us all.
[17:23] <Vivekananda> zykotick9: :) good work
[17:23] <neopsyche> using SAMBA
[17:24] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: thank you!
[17:24] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, Okay
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> (I know what you're talking about)
[17:24] <MrUnagi> I dunno how to ask what im trying to do,...it's probably not possible.....rsync works over ssh right?
[17:25] <DarkAceZ> How do I change the number of open files limit in Linux?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> MrUnagi  yes
[17:25] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, temporarily or permanently?
[17:25] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: rsync CAN work over ssh (or nfs, or local)
[17:25] <DarkAceZ> permanently
[17:26] <DarkAceZ> it's currently 1024
[17:26] <DarkAceZ> I think
[17:26] <MrUnagi> MonkeyDust: Is it possible to use a running rsync to start a reverse ssh?
[17:26] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i want for 12.04 thet is precise ?
[17:26] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Yes
[17:26] <ineedahelpa> ok ty
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> MrUnagi  rsync copies data, not sure what you mean
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> I edited /etc/security/limits.conf
[17:27] <neopsyche> can someone help me setup SQUID server?
[17:27] <MrUnagi> MonkeyDust: Im sure im not making sense lol
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> I added '*                hard    nofile          4096' to the end of the file
[17:27] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I think that just raises the allowed limits of ulimit command?
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> well then I'm not sure what I'm doing
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> MrUnagi  rsync is similar to scp, where cp means copy
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> but my xchat has hit the open file limit
[17:28] <DarkAceZ> and it glitching
[17:28] <riobe> O
[17:28] <DarkAceZ> too many log files open, I'd like to set it to 4096
[17:28] <DarkAceZ> the open file limit, I mean
[17:28] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, /etc/sysctl.conf fs.file-max = 4096
[17:28] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I am not sure if that works
[17:28] <MrUnagi> I guess im trying to reach my computer in the office over ssh through a remote server....I thought if a path from the office to the server is open, I could find a way to ssh to the office machine from the server which I have access to
[17:29] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Then logout or run sysctl -p
[17:29] <Lartza> and cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[17:29] <DarkAceZ> alright, lemme try
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  ther are 3 pacages what shoud i downaload
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> ndiswrapper_1.57.orig.tar.gz
[17:29] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Hang on...
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> ndiswrapper_1.57-1ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> ndiswrapper_1.57-1ubuntu1.dsc
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> want a link?
[17:29] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, That actually raises the system wide limit... is that only 1024?
[17:30] <nmittal> hello ppl.. how do i check the max # of file open allowed by my system?
[17:30] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, and /etc/security/limits.conf should work...
[17:30] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I've not done this for a very long time so :/
[17:30] <nmittal> i am running Linux goofy 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:30] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/1.57-1ubuntu1 what of this 3 packets i need
[17:30] <DarkAceZ> is there any command I should be running after editing the /etc/security/limits.conf?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> nmittal  what's linux goofy?
[17:30] <nmittal> MonkeyDust, goofy is the hostname
[17:31] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Have you tried "soft" instead of "hard"?
[17:31] <DarkAceZ> nope
[17:31] <DarkAceZ> should I?
[17:31] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Set soft to 4096 and hard to 10240 in /etc/security/limits.conf
[17:31] <Lartza> Like you already did with hard
[17:31] <DarkAceZ> alright
[17:32] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Then relog to be sure, and check with ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn
[17:32] <Vivekananda> can I ask libreoffice questions here ?
[17:32] <nmittal>  cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max returns 2436928 which is pretty large but I am thinking maybe the user limit is smaller
[17:32] <Vivekananda> the official site seems no one is there
[17:32] <Vivekananda> :(
[17:32] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Who told you to go to launchpad?... http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:33] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i google it sorry
[17:33] <ineedahelpa> Lartza: is this ok http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/ndiswrapper
[17:33] <Lartza> Vivekananda, Ubuntu related yes, otherwise maybe ;)
[17:33] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Nope, wrong page
[17:34] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  meybe help me to much tarded
[17:34] <Kroach> I want to check for lines that contain either of two given strings, how can I do that? I was trying to get grep to do that but so far o luck
[17:34] <Vivekananda> yes but then is libreoffice , ubuntu related. If not I dont want to jeopardize my chances of talking in this channel coz this channel is very helpful for lots of other things
[17:34] <Lartza> nmittal, ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn show you the open limits for current user
[17:34] <bogor> Vivekananda: egrep "string1|string2" file
[17:34] <zykotick9> Kroach: check out egrep
[17:35] <DarkAceZ> Lartza, alright, back in a few minutes (xchat takes a bit to start up
[17:35] <DarkAceZ> )
[17:35] <bogor> Vivekananda: btw, qouting is important in that
[17:35] <snuggl> Kroach: grep -e "foo" -e "bar"
[17:35] <Lartza> bogor, You are hilighting the wrong person
[17:35] <nmittal> Lartza, H is 4096 and S is 1024.. whats the difference?
[17:35] <jaysql> what is foo ?
[17:35] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  can you give me a link i think i am too much tarded
[17:36] <Lartza> nmittal, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/29577/ulimit-difference-between-hard-and-soft-limits
[17:36] <Kroach> snuggl: worked, thanks
[17:36] <bogor> Thanks Lartza , Actaully i meant Lartza , Sorry Vivekananda
[17:36] <snuggl> jaysql: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[17:36] <jaysql> I am soft at the moment, can you make me hard?
[17:36] <Lartza> nmittal, That will probably explain it well enough, and better than I can
[17:36] <jaysql> lol jk
[17:36] <bogor> My bad day. Lot of messign up
[17:36] <nmittal> Lartza, reading it
[17:36] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[17:36] <Lartza> You will probably want all of those
[17:38] <ineedahelpa> i have a new problem
[17:38] <nmittal> Lartza, understood.. how do I increase the limits ? security/limits.conf?
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | ineedahelpa
[17:39] <Lartza> nmittal, Yeah "username <soft/hard> nofile <limit>"
[17:40] <Lartza> At least it should work ;)
[17:40] <nmittal> Lartza, and is it safe to set it rediculously high? like 1m?
[17:40] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica: i dont know wher to click to downaload
[17:40] <Lartza> nmittal, Umm... I don't know
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Download what?
[17:40] <Lartza> nmittal, I would assume yes... except if it ever hit 1m something would be wrong
[17:40] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all niswraper packages
[17:41] <Lartza> nmittal, Basically someone could hurt your system performance on a shared system if you set their open file limit high but for your user... I don't know
[17:41] <nmittal> Lartza, i see.. well no one else uses this system.. so only I could bring it down ;-)
[17:42] <Lartza> nmittal, Yeah it should be safe to set it high
[17:42] <nmittal> Lartza, is there a way to check how many files are open at the moment
[17:42] <neopsyche> samba share not showing files?
[17:42] <Karasaar> test
[17:42]  * jaysql dances to the samba rhythm
[17:42] <neopsyche> lol
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Is this with or without Internet?
[17:43] <uvala> miro doesnt convert videos to mp3 anymore (and this for a long while), can I fix this somehow?
[17:43] <Lartza> nmittal, Umm... "lsof | grep ' root ' | awk '{print $NF}' | sort | wc -l" from google :)
[17:43] <Lartza> replace root with username
[17:43] <bogor> uvala: ffmepg can do that. AFAIK, it is a cli tool
[17:44] <uvala> bogor, what is ffmepg and afaik? do I need to install them?
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> uvala  use soundconverter, i tried it succesfully
[17:44] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica: i have internet now but i will not heve it when i go unubtu beacuse wifi dont work
[17:44] <uvala> monkeydust, can I sudo apt-get it?
[17:44] <nmittal> Lartza, that command for my user returns 29182.. but my hard limit is 4096
[17:44] <nmittal> Lartza, howz that possible
[17:44] <Lartza> nmittal, Umm :D
[17:44] <Lartza> nmittal, Computing!
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> uvala  yes
[17:45] <Lartza> nmittal, I don't know sorry
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Check this page out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[17:45] <bogor> uvala: ffmepg is a tool that supports such conversions. AFAIK is as far as i know. ffmeg is very popular tool and lot of apps use it in backend
[17:45] <nmittal> Lartza, ok no worries.. thanks for your help
[17:45] <bogor> uvala: you install it with apt-get install ffmpeg
[17:46] <raju> uvala,  dont forget adding sudo .you need to be root.
[17:46] <uvala> monkeydust and bogor, thank you very much, started installing soundconverter now, will try with ffmpeg, too, if I still need to
[17:47] <BluesKaj> raju, when using sudo you have root permissions
[17:47] <raju> BluesKaj, to install any application we need to be root right , thats what I have suggested .
[17:47] <bogor> uvala: it is command line tool. So check the man pages or internet for the options best suit needs.
[17:48] <raju> uvala, http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html read this. this will let you know what exactly you can do with ffmpeg.
[17:48] <janisozaur> how can i set my serial port speed to something like 1382400? stty seems to not consider that as valid speed (screen however has no problems with that)
[17:48] <uvala> bogor, thank you, I will keep this tool in mind, for now soundconverter seems to do the trick, converting the file
[17:48] <uvala> thank you raju!
[17:48] <raju> uvala,  :)
[17:49] <neopsyche> why is ubuntu share not showing files?
[17:51] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  i founded out i done even need niswraper beacuse i cant extract anything from windowswifidriver.exe so i am screwed
[17:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: What.
[17:52] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  do you know meybe how to install linux driwer i downloaded it from internet but it wont make install it gives errors
[17:53] <bogor> ineedahelpa: thats why there is apt-get . So that you dont have to do make install and solve the errors it throws.
[17:53] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Can you !pastebin them?
[17:53] <ineedahelpa> bogor:  i dont have internet so apt-get wont help me smartass
[17:54] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  what to pastbin
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica> The output of your [ make install ] for your driver
[17:54] <BluesKaj> ineedahelpa, not everyone is aware of your situation , please refreain from insults and bad language
[17:55] <ineedahelpa> soory w8
[17:56] <ineedahelpa> i cant i been thet road i go cry
[17:56] <ineedahelpa> meybe return leater
[17:59] <deffrag> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and while updating and upgrading packages I got errors as pasted here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ .Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/ . Could anyone help understand the problem and solve it?
[17:59] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705481/
[17:59] <uvala> just curious, why is conversion no more possible with miro? has anything changed in miro concerning this?
[17:59] <ineedahelpa> neuvaljuj se
[17:59] <Lartza> !android
[17:59] <jaysql> Negative.
[18:00] <ineedahelpa> i just read thet 12.10 supports my card automatick
[18:00] <hanun> hello
[18:00] <hanun> :D
[18:01] <Lartza> hanun, Hello
[18:01] <ineedahelpa> can somone explan me why is newer wersion 12.10 supoerted only for 18 monts and older 12.04 for 5 years
[18:01] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, LTS
[18:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !LTS
[18:02] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Why did you install 12.04?
[18:02] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, I just realised
[18:02] <hanun> has anybody tries manjaro linux
[18:02] <hanun> ??
[18:02] <Lartza> hanun, #ubuntu-offtopic, or rather arch linux offtopic...
[18:02] <ineedahelpa> i know what lts means just dont understend why 12.10 will be suporterd smaller time then this
[18:02] <hanun> okay sry
[18:02] <DJones> hanun: That not a supported version of Ubuntu
[18:03] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  beacuse i thinked thet 12.04 is bether if it is suported more time
[18:03] <jaysql> ubuntu is arch linux
[18:03] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, No...
[18:03] <DJones> jaysql: Enough trolling
[18:03] <jaysql> OKAY
[18:04] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  can i go cry now?
[18:04] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, It's more stable for servers etc
[18:04] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Yes
[18:04] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, You can update to 12.10 or reinstall :)
[18:05] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  no i want fress install i will delete whole hard and fress install
[18:05] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, That is probably better
[18:05] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i installed first  zorin to figur out what is hepening in linux now i learnd some beasics
[18:06] <ineedahelpa> best thin in ubuntu iz compiz WoblyWindow and you dont need to reinstall evry 5moths like tarded windows
[18:08] <Lartza> Compiz... okay
[18:08] <Lartza> :D
[18:08] <ineedahelpa> how to change wher is x bution on window in ubuntu i want to be on right side of folder like in windows
[18:09] <rase> hello guys i have a question i need to install ubuntu to a laptop with usb but the usb port is not configured and i don't have accsess to bios cause it's pass protected it's an very old computer so my question is shall i push it with network install and yes then how to go about doing that the easy way or is there a way to fix the usb PS i am atm booted into a old Helix resuce disk and it has a ubuntu 9.0.9 on it and the usb is showing th
[18:09] <ineedahelpa> i dont use compiz for anything more just wobly window
[18:09] <rase> install from there so my question is there a way to make the usb start it's install when i'm inside the old ubuntu??
[18:09] <DJones> !controls | ineedahelpa
[18:09] <ineedahelpa> i am not smart but i think you can
[18:10] <ineedahelpa> ubottu:  ty
[18:10] <jaysql> ubottu stop trolling
[18:11] <delocaz> So as I asked before, how do I get Xubuntu to boot up from the live cd? It currently blackscreens after the screen with 4 dots and "Xubuntu 12.10". It runs Debian fine, though.
[18:11] <rase> anyone have an idea on my question?
[18:11] <Lartza> :) poor jaysql
[18:11] <ineedahelpa> i think i have
[18:12] <ineedahelpa> rase:  but i am no expert
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I have seen users have a summed disc be correct and not work, but a reburn fixed it at a slower speed.
[18:12] <ineedahelpa> rase: can you acces your usb from your old ubuntu
[18:12] <rase> yes
[18:12] <rase> i just can't boot it from the boot menu
[18:13] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: I'll try reburning.
[18:13] <vilgax> anybody know if there is developers ppa for nmap 6.25
[18:13] <ineedahelpa> rase:  if can you shoud find install.sh(or what is i am still used to exe) like in live usb and run it
[18:13] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, That will not work...
[18:13] <rase> let me check
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> rase, You can loop mount the ISO in a partiton with grub 2
[18:13] <Lartza> rase, Won't work, you can't just run the installer from a running system
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> partition*
[18:13] <delocaz> Hmm... is Xubuntu 13.04 beta 2 stable enough?
[18:13] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i told i am no expert
[18:14] <DJones> delocaz: Ask in #ubuntu+1 they may be able to tell you
[18:14] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, All the partitions are mounted and locked, files in use and locked, not to mention you are wiping the system that ran the installer
[18:14] <delocaz> ...i'll just stick with 12.10
[18:15] <Lartza> wow
[18:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i thinked it is like windows in when you ran widows it copy to hard then restarts and continuse install
[18:15] <Lartza> Does rm -rf / remove root actually?
[18:15] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, No
[18:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !danger
[18:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  ok i go cry more
[18:15] <rase> so how would i do this then?
[18:15] <harris> has anyone read nothing but the truth recently
[18:15] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, There are ways to install some distros from a running one but
[18:15] <rase> wilee-nilee: how to i access that?
[18:15] <harris> or is there a channel for it
[18:15] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, I actually ran it, it halted itself :3
[18:16] <DJones> harris: You know the rules, this is a support channel
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Lucky you Lartza.
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> rase, Thanks always use nicks. ;)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[18:16] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, I was continuin it and pressed enter accidentally :)
[18:16] <ineedahelpa> Does rm -rf / remove root actually? why is this dangerus
[18:16] <DarkAceZ> Lartza, I'm back from the dead
[18:16] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, It could :3
[18:16] <ineedahelpa> is it like sudo su
[18:16] <Lartza> ?
[18:16] <DarkAceZ> how am I supposed to check if it's been changed, now?
[18:17] <ineedahelpa> i go cry i am too noob to be smart
[18:17] <rase> wilee-nilee: inside grub from terminal thats how far i have come
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> ineedahelpa, It is a wipe command
[18:17] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, ulimit -Hn and umm...
[18:17] <DarkAceZ> $ ulimit -Hn
[18:17] <DarkAceZ> 10240
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> ineedahelpa,Just depends what you point it at.
[18:17] <ineedahelpa> ty i go cry more
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> rase, This just adds the iso to the grub menu, if you have the grub bootloader.
[18:18] <ineedahelpa> can somone give me money i have no job?
[18:18] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, ulimit -Sn
[18:18] <DarkAceZ> $ ulimit -Sn
[18:18] <DarkAceZ> 4096
[18:18] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I am assuming you set hard and soft to those values so it worked :)
[18:19] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Get a job
[18:19] <DarkAceZ> I'll know it a minute, thanks for your help so far!
[18:19] <rase> i'm booting from a rescue cd and it's backend is ubuntu 9 thats what i'm on now
[18:19] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i would but i cant i live in Serbia
[18:19] <rase> wilee-nilee: i'm booting from a rescue cd and it's backend is ubuntu 9 thats what i'm on now (forgot nick)..
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> rase, That is end of life, I assume you know this.
[18:19] <tush> from where i can download Creative Elite pro sound card driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit version
[18:20] <eczlea> Hello, whenever I type yahoo and press ctrl+Enter , it redirects me to au.yahoo.com instead of in.yahoo.com. This has happened today only.what's going wrong?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> rase, Nor is it grub 2.
[18:20] <eczlea> This is both -chrome and firefox browser
[18:20] <rase> wilee-nilee: i know it's an very old one but thats all i had on cd (all i could mange to boot into)..
[18:21] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: It likes the Big Bash T20 better than the IPL I think. :) Try clearing your cache and cookies maybe?
[18:21] <eczlea> haha SonikkuAmerica . Already tried that. Ran bleach bit too but the problem persists :S
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: (By the way, MI and CSK won their matches today) Go to System Settings > Language Support and see what's selected...
[18:22] <rase> wilee-nilee: no more cd's to burn only got the ubuntu new version on an usb stick thats all i have but the usb is not showing in the boot menu to boot from that and bios is locked so i'm basicly f..ed until fix it from network or something else i was hoping to start it using the rescue cd and boot it from with in like u do windows but that might not be possible or so on..
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> rase, Is the computer to old to boot a usb, you can use plop to boot it.
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> If you have a windows install you can run plop from there without a cd
[18:24] <rase> wilee-nilee: not to old just been disabled to boot from i guess
[18:24] <eczlea> SonikkuAmerica, English(UNited states) and English only. Rest all are greyed out
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> rase, There is a boot from menu not in the bios are you aware of this?
[18:25] <rase> wilee-nilee: yes but the options only has network flopy and cd in that menu as well
[18:25] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: I hate to say it but purge and reinstall your browser maybe?
[18:26] <eczlea> hmm okay SonikkuAmerica
[18:26] <eczlea> will flushing DNS help SonikkuAmerica ?
[18:26] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: It might
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> rase, I wonder if the usb is being seen, and or if the bios or this other bootmenu needs to sense the usb to show a boot option.
[18:27] <rase> wilee-nilee: not sure
[18:28] <eczlea> no luck SonikkuAmerica :(
[18:28] <Merkidemis> I have a lucid server, and am getting an error 101 Network is unreachable. [IP 2001:67c:1360:8c:10::18].  I can ping archive.ubuntu.com just fine.  Am I correct in thinking I should disable ipv6?
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: You may just have to type out the full name in.yahoo.com for now then...
[18:30] <Lartza> I've tried running bloodhound or gitlab, checked that gitorious is a pain to install on Ubuntu and no proper instructions even, what else are there??
[18:30] <Lartza> I want git support and support for multiple projects
[18:31] <tozen_> hi all does anybody tried co configure /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh to get startup colored?
[18:32] <raze> wilee-nilee: sorry got disconnected :P
[18:32] <zykotick9> Lartza: i'm not a developer, but the various git services came to my attention the other day.  this wiki page has a nice comparison of some of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_software_hosting_facilities
[18:32] <eczlea> SonikkuAmerica, removed google chrome. But even firefox redirects. So shall i uninstall it too?
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes, [ sudo apt-get purge firefox ; sudo apt-get install firefox ]
[18:34] <Lartza> zykotick9, I am looking for something I can deploy on my own server
[18:34] <zykotick9> Lartza: ahhh, that's much better!  no SAAS ;)
[18:34] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: burning at a slower speed did not help at all... The cursor still appears, stays for a few seconds, then goes away, then reappears in a loop
[18:35] <delocaz> It runs Debian atm, but I'd like Xubuntu
[18:36] <tush> from where i can download Creative Elite pro sound card driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit version
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Strange, there are a number of other optons in that f6 menu, however I'm lost as to where to go though. You might look on the web with the computer model and or hardware using those options in the foo, it is probably is another graphic command added, as a guess.
[18:37] <ahalverson> tush: have you checked additional drivers?
[18:37] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Thing is, I have 0 idea what the specs are, other than everything is Silicon Integrated Systems
[18:37] <tush> ahalverson, like???
[18:37] <raze> wilee-nilee: if i just get an iso of ubuntu downloaded can't i mount that iso like with something like deamon tools to make it thinks it's a cd drive and then run it??
[18:37] <delocaz> And it has an Intel Celeron
[18:37] <ahalverson> just checking
[18:38] <tush> ahalverson, from where do i check additional drivers
[18:38] <dr_willis> raze:  no.. you boot the cd/make a live usb from it..
[18:38] <dr_willis> !install | raze
[18:38] <MrGizmo757> Anybody familiar with ffmpeg?  i am trying to do a screen cast but my audio is out of sync. i can't figure out how to fix it.
[18:38] <ahalverson> search "additional drivers in the dash and click on the icon
[18:38] <Merkidemis> Would anyone be able to assist me in resolving my 101 Network is unreachable errror I am getting when I try to apt-get update?
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Look up the computer on the web, you could also just do a netinstall with a mini ISO, It might load the right stuff, and or at least give you a installed system to tinker with.
[18:39] <tush> ahalverson, in software center
[18:39] <raze> wilee-nilee: any ideas?
[18:39] <tozen_> Merkidemis: which server do u use?
[18:39] <Merkidemis> lucid
[18:39] <BluesKaj> tush, run aplay -l in a terminal , and pastebin the output
[18:40] <Merkidemis> I am trying to connect to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[18:40] <ahalverson> tush: normally drivers arent found in the software center, so if you can't find it in additional drivers, google the name of the card and the "ubuntu"
[18:40] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Where do i get a netinst iso?
[18:40] <MrGizmo757> anyone?
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone
[18:40] <tozen_> Merkidemis: try to chanche to Main
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> raze, The only thing I have seen is the grub 2 mount in a partition, I am lucky to not have had to mess around in this area. ;)
[18:40] <Merkidemis> tozen_: ok, one sec
[18:41] <tush> ahalverson, check http://pastebin.com/952CK22v
[18:41] <Merkidemis> tozen_: though oddly enough, I can ping the address just fine...
[18:41] <BluesKaj> MrGizmo757, run it with mplayer to see if the audio is still out of sync
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:41] <raze> wilee-nilee:  same here but friend asked me to help out and i wan't him to join the linux club! so i need to find a way :P
[18:41] <MrGizmo757> i did.  its out of sync in VLC. OpenShot and mplayer
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> ;) understandable Raz_away
[18:41] <ahalverson> will do
[18:41] <tozen_> Merkidemis: in update-manager setting just try to change your current server to Main
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> Raz_away, sory
[18:42] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Where do I get a Xubuntu mini image? That was just regular ubuntu
[18:42] <Merkidemis> tozen_: this is a command line only server install
[18:42] <tush> ahalverson, in addititonal drivers showing me only Nvidia Drivers thats it
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> delocaz: www.xubuntu.org
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I don't see one, however you can on that mini I believe choose the desktop,
[18:43] <eczlea> SonikkuAmerica, no luck yet :(
[18:43] <zykotick9> MrGizmo757: i use a hack solution with ffmpeg (for some content), using -async 30 and -r 30.  but i wouldn't recommend actually using these!  i really have NO idea what they mean do.  but it got my audio/video mainly together in my case.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> MrGizmo757, screencast ? pls expalin
[18:43] <Merkidemis> tozen_: for example, the first one in my sources list is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main restricted
[18:43] <BluesKaj> tush, did you run aplay -l ?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, The mini has choices for multiple types of servers and desktops, all you need is to choose the desktop.
[18:43] <tozen_> Merkidemis: pastebin spurces.list.d please
[18:43] <tozen_> Merkidemis: pastebin sources.list.d please
[18:43] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: ty
[18:44] <MrGizmo757> i read something about -async. i am not totally for sure where it goes in the command though.
[18:44] <ahalverson> tush: just sec
[18:44] <MrGizmo757> this is the command i use.      ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i default -f x11grab -s $(xwininfo -root | grep 'geometry' | awk '{print $2;}') -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq -f mpeg -ar 48000 -s 1366x768 -y capture.mp4
[18:44] <tush> BluesKaj, , yes http://pastebin.com/952CK22v
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, No problem, hope that gets you up and running. ;)
[18:45] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: Hmmm...
[18:45] <Merkidemis> tozen_: the directory or do you just want the sources.list file?