 ccccccknknlufebrjbgellignndjinfjdtckrrbgubjf
 @davidsrodriguez [ccccccknknlufebrjbgellignndjinfjdtckrrbgubjf], Yubikey misstep
 @UniversalSuperBox [Yubikey misstep], Apologies.. That's correct 😆
 I was thinking what might be a good list to assemble for the website was the Halium based UT ports that are closer to being complete - with links to whatever pages are up for docs and bug reports for them-  so that people could maybe potentially focus on helping port those first.  If my memory is correct this would include devices like
[01:09] <ubptgbot>  Samsung Note 4, Planet Gemini, OnePlus 3, and Sony  Xperia X.
 I like the idea, I know there were a couple people that had a note 4 (besides myself) I dont know if anyone else is still trying to help, but Im running off the presumption that Im the only one
 yeah - it seems so many posts are people wanting a port done for their own (sometimes obscure) device - but what would be more helpful would be people knowing what devices are almost a functional port that just needs more hands working to finish these.  But right now finding out the doc links to these isn't so easy
 Well I gotta get my two ports to the same place, I had to reset my repo recently and now Im trying to get it back to a working GUI
 I think it may be my kernel cmd line, I just modified it, and now I need to test but gotta get the kiddo asleep first
 If you do make this list, just put nothing works for now lol
 @John (Marlin) [Yes, I thought the app must be broken since it can't open a url, but passes it t …], you need to edit your desktop file to include the url it opens in morph
 something's weird on MX4....suddenly it seems slow, app startup time and clicking stuffs are slower than normal … hopefully OTA10 will will snap my phone back to normal 😄
 reboot no help?
 I've shutdown and rebooted a couple of times already
 weird, can you see anything that's eating resources?
 haven't really checked...but it's really weird because navigating is fine and normal, but opening apps is extra slow and sometime clicking on something has a delay
 that is really weird indeed hmmm
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[05:16] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [yeah - it seems so many posts are people wanting a port done for their own (some …], Devices list links to porting guide which links to the list of devices in progress: … https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues
[05:17] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [you need to edit your desktop file to include the url it opens in morph], Thanks. Where do I find this file?
 @John (Marlin) [Devices list links to porting guide which links to the list of devices in progre …], John - this is a good start - but doesn't really pick out the fewer devices out of that longer list which have made the most progress in getting UT functional on them
[05:18] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [John - this is a good start - but doesn't really pick out the fewer devices out …], True.
 @John (Marlin) [True.], when I have time maybe I will try and figure that out and will post on the forum if I can
[05:18] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [when I have time maybe I will try and figure that out and will post on the forum …], Can it be sorted in date order according to the devices that have the most recent commits?
 @John (Marlin) [Can it be sorted in date order according to the devices that have the most recen …], that might not really reflect on whether the device has the most functions already working for it on UT though
 @Fuseteam [you need to edit your desktop file to include the url it opens in morph], If anyone could post a tutorial on a newbie friendly way of coding a webapp for UT without using Webapp Creator would be greatly appreciated by myself as well
 Is there something wrong with the Jenkins server? I have tried to download the rootfs yesterday and it keep failing after a minute or so and speed was very slow. Or is it mine ISP/router? Tried this morning, same thing. Anybody else with such an issue? I'm located in UK. Previously I had no issues whatsoever and my broadband connectio
[06:17] <ubptgbot> n is rather good for surfing...
[07:14] <ubptgbot> Maciej was added by: Maciej
 Hi all. I was thinking about buying nexux 5 only for ununu touch. I am windows phone user since WP 10 came. I had pixel 3 for 2 months but android is not for me. I won't touch Ishit ever again.  … Does nexux 5 have latest Ubuntu touch version or should I buy something else ? I don't live in USA and Amazon will charge 100$ for transport so
[07:16] <ubptgbot> I am unable to buy "promoted Ubuntu touch devices "  … Thx 4 help <3
 [Edit] Hi all. I was thinking about buying nexux 5 only for ubuntu touch. I am windows phone user since WP 10 came. I had pixel 3 for 2 months but android is not for me. I won't touch Ishit ever again.  … Does nexux 5 have latest Ubuntu touch version or should I buy something else ? I don't live in USA and Amazon will charge 100$ for trans
[07:16] <ubptgbot> port so I am unable to buy "promoted Ubuntu touch devices "  … Thx 4 help <3
 [Edit] Hi all. I was thinking about buying nexux 5 only for ubuntu touch. I am windows phone user since WP 10 came. I had pixel 3 for 2 months but android is not for me and I won't touch Ishit ever again.  … Does nexux 5 have latest Ubuntu touch version or should I buy something else ? I don't live in USA and Amazon will charge 100$ for tr
[07:19] <ubptgbot> ansport so I am unable to buy "promoted Ubuntu touch devices "  … Thx 4 help <3
 Yes N5 is a good choice for using UBports Ubuntu Touch.
 @libremax [Yes N5 is a good choice for using UBports Ubuntu Touch.], What about updates ? From what I know, ubuntu touch is dead and community update it. I don't expect monthly updates but does nexux 5 has latest updates ?
 @libremax [Yes N5 is a good choice for using UBports Ubuntu Touch.], Is there a better option?
 Yes, N5 is fully supported by UBports community.
 Some people prefer OPO.
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [there are people who have a Synology NAS? and who are interested in a FileStatio …], Of course, me :-)
 @libremax [Yes, N5 is fully supported by UBports community.], Thanks 😀. Nexux 5 is 25$ in my country so I'll have some updates . WP is dead for some time and I want something working a little more
 @libremax [Yes, N5 is fully supported by UBports community.], [Edit] Thanks 😀. Nexux 5 is 25$ in my country so I'll have some updates . WP is dead for some time and I want something more updated
 I use N5 as my daily device for two years with UBports UT and enjoy it...
 UBports UT is fully alive!
 Free software is more resilient than proprietary software.
 @libremax [Free software is more resilient than proprietary software.], "free" not counting developers works and creativity to make rom
 Free as Libre
 @marissaChan [Is there a better option?], In comparison the Nexus 5, the OnePlus One offers a faster CPU, more RAM, more storage, a larger display, better battery life, and better video playback.  The disadvantages of the OnePlus One are that the zoom and flash are not currently working on the camera.  The OnePlus One can send to exter
[07:45] <ubptgbot> nal display wirelessly via a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter - where as the Nexus 5 uses a wired Slimport adapater.
 WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013
 @TotalSonic [In comparison the Nexus 5, the OnePlus One offers a faster CPU, more RAM, more s …], I don't want phone to be "smartphone" . I just need it to make a calls and to be encrypted
 @shibork [WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013], Samsung s7 had ubu port. "Had" because I am not sure if it was released or no. Same as some Sony phones if I am not wrong
 @Maciej [Samsung s7 had ubu port. "Had" because I am not sure if it was released or no. S …], I'm surprised the newer Nexus phones never got ports
 or Pixels
 @Maciej [I don't want phone to be "smartphone" . I just need it to make a calls and to be …], well, any of the UT supported phones can make calls, as long as your carrier supports the GSM or LTE bands they work at.  As for encryption - it depends on what you are looking for - the data on the phone is not encrypted by default.
 From what I remember, android phone need >Oreo to be working
 @shibork [or Pixels], Pixel 3 was released with pie
 @Maciej [From what I remember, android phone need >Oreo to be working], Not really
 (Sticker, 512x368) https://irc.ubports.com/d4VuAfnv.webp
 Fuk
 Misslick 😂
 app support goes all the way back to kitkat
 @shibork [app support goes all the way back to kitkat], >Oreo = older than Oreo
 ohhh
 sorry its almost 3am for me
 Np
 I know tha feeling. Got work since 4am to 6pm 😂
 Lmao
 I think this is the furthest they got on a port for the Nexus 6P (my old phone)
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/SBqLyPGJ.png
 im like 100% sure ill never see a port for the Note9
 considering the bootloader hasnt even been unlocked yet
 @shibork [considering the bootloader hasnt even been unlocked yet], Exynos, yes
 @Maciej [Exynos, yes], I'm on SD
 Snap will be. Note 8 snap got unlocked
 Note 9 might be if some1 will work on it
 @Maciej [Snap will be. Note 8 snap got unlocked], the phone has been out for a year and no progress has been made tho
 Phones that come with Android 8 or 9 are not currently Halium compatible - so porting UT for those is not something that can be done yet.
 @TotalSonic [Phones that come with Android 8 or 9 are not currently Halium compatible - so po …], The 6P shipped with 7 iirc
 @shibork [The 6P shipped with 7 iirc], then it is possible a port can be done.
 i wish windows mobile still existed tho, i miss having a UI that was extremely intuitive
 also it could run on a toaster
 @shibork [i wish windows mobile still existed tho, i miss having a UI that was extremely i …], It does. Just buy 950xl and it will work. No updates or anything but community still exist :D
 @Maciej [It does. Just buy 950xl and it will work. No updates or anything but community s …], I had a M8 for windows
 dropped it and it shattered tho
 Rip
 i love my note9 tho
 I bought almost new 950xl for 100$ 😂. I tried to buy new 1 for my sister this year. Idk what happend but most shops have that phone for almost 900$. Like wtf?
 @Maciej [I bought almost new 950xl for 100$ 😂. I tried to buy new 1 for my sister this y …], uh what
 its like a 3 year old phone isnt it?
 4 q 2015
 my phone was $1000 oOF
 Which 1 ?
 Note9
 lul
 Your rich ?
 I got it before the S10 came out
 I would never be able to buy that experience stuff 😂
 @Maciej [Your rich ?], nah i just plan on keeping this for 3 years
 i had been through like 4 phones in the span of a year and i got really tired of that
 I went from Moto X 2014 to iPhone 4S to Moto X 2014 to Droid Mini to Nexus 6P in 2018
 two different moto x devices too
 I bought Samsung s1 , then I had some lg, went to Huawei y6 2016 and few week after buying Huawei I found Microsoft phone. I keep it since then
 the first moto xs charging port fell off the board, the 4s just was slow and kinda temporary, the other moto x ended up having extreme screen ghosting, the droid mini bootlooped and the nexus 6p ended up having battery issues after i replaced it twice
 @Maciej [I bought Samsung s1 , then I had some lg, went to Huawei y6 2016 and few week af …], are you in the us?
 just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris
 Please, it's time to come back to UBports subjects...
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 Gentle reminder: for general chitchat we have https://t.me/UBportsOF :)
 @shibork [just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris], I was never in us
 I love in Poland
 [Edit] I live in Poland
 And I know it's reallyyyyy expensive but it seems like stores keep last 10-20 devices for "geeks* who really want those phones
 [Edit] And I know it's reallyyyyy expensive but it seems like stores keep last 10-20 devices for "geeks* who really want those phones and willing to pay much for them
 @shibork [the first moto xs charging port fell off the board, the 4s just was slow and kin …], I never had any problems with phones. No even screen burn. Never dropped any of my phones, never hit anything with them etc
 Maciej please continue your speech in UBOF. Thank you :)
 Ubof 🤔?
 I just posted the link 😄
 Oh. Sory for spam
 👍
 @shibork [just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris], [Edit] I was never in us. I live in Poland
 @shibork [just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris], [Edit] I was never in us. I live in Poland … And I know it's reallyyyyy expensive but it seems like stores keep last 10-20 devices for "geeks* who really want those phones and willing to pay much for them
 @Lukas [Of course, me :-)], an application like DSfile on android interests you?
 Yes, thought about creating one by myself, but have not much time...
 Hi everyone ! … Tonight, I will buy a Nexus 7 tablet and I will install ubport on it for testing :) … Is it possible to do the converge with this tablet ? :)
 * convergence
 Hi, I believe so, someone else will be able to confirm
 @Zak39 [Hi everyone ! … Tonight, I will buy a Nexus 7 tablet and I will install ubport on …], Tried it with the 3G version (deb) just yesterday and it works.  Kind of.  Haven't been able to connect a keyboard via Bluetooth.  I don't rely on BT for other things so I cannot say if that device has a general BT problem.  The test device was on
[09:33] <ubptgbot>  current RC.
 @John (Marlin) [Thanks. Where do I find this file?], in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/yourapp once ypu installed it
 @TotalSonic [If anyone could post a tutorial on a newbie friendly way of coding a webapp for …], hmm i'll see what i can do
 What I would like to know of why when I create an app with webapp creator it runs just fine instead when using clickable where it lags
 [Edit] What I would like to know is why when I create an app with webapp creator it runs just fine instead when using clickable where it lags
 @shibork [I'm surprised the newer Nexus phones never got ports], this takes time, interest and patience, anyone with these three can port newer devices and help solve the roadblocks
 @Maciej [What about updates ? From what I know, ubuntu touch is dead and community update …], ubuntu touch is kept alive by this community which mean yes there are frequent updates
 @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch is kept alive by this community which mean yes there are frequent u …], Thx
 @malditobastardo [What I would like to know is why when I create an app with webapp creator it run …], That's usually due to PEBCAK 😜
 Haha maybe
 Please Explain Better Cannot Address K-9
 [Edit] PEBCAK: Please Explain Better Cannot Address K-9
 Exactly (🙏🗣☑👀🐶)
 End of OT 😄
 @TotalSonic [In comparison the Nexus 5, the OnePlus One offers a faster CPU, more RAM, more s …], Another OPO disadvantage is no SD card (not that the N5 has one either).
 @shibork [WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013], Meizu Pro 5 says hi.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/PzYoo00R.webp
 (Sticker, 448x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5nv145E3.webp
 @shibork [I think this is the furthest they got on a port for the Nexus 6P (my old phone)], Got a 6P on my table but have no time for porting 😆
 @advocatux [Exactly (🙏🗣☑👀🐶)], 😂😂😂
 @TartanSpartan [Meizu Pro 5 says hi.], More like fairphone
 Welllllll they were both 2015 phones, no?
 @TartanSpartan [Welllllll they were both 2015 phones, no?], Fair phone still being produced
 Not according to Wiki, it ceased in 2018.
 Ok
 @dohbee I saw you trying to update pulseaudio and noticed the module-droid package in there. isn't module-droid in a separate repo or has it been merged into pulseaudio upstream?
 @fredldotme [@dohbee I saw you trying to update pulseaudio and noticed the module-droid packa …], Event income
 @shibork [WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013], OnePlus One - April 2014 , Fairphone 2 - December 2015, Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition - February 2016.  coming soon: Pine64 Pinephone - due around November 2019, Purism Librem 5 -  estimated March 2020.
 @malditobastardo [Fair phone still being produced], Next Thursday the FP3 will be announced but the FP2 is fully sold out and won't be produced anymore.
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[13:19] <ubptgbot> <Francis Steward> Hi everyone i am selling this Maserati gran turismo for 35000 USD thoses who are interested contact me inbox
[13:19] <ubptgbot> <Francis Steward> (Photo, 800x600) https://irc.ubports.com/pD7eQQFC.png
 spam spam spam spam and smap
 [Edit] spam spam spam spam and spam
 License plates missing ;)
 Fixed :)
 Can't we create a group just for the spammers to spam each other?
 hey guys i am selling this NO MATERIAL for $1, runs, drives, cold ac
 (Photo, 1077x599) https://irc.ubports.com/7sfKSp7C.png
 bruh
 Please, keep this group on topic. Thank you :)
[13:21] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @alan_griffiths [Can't we create a group just for the spammers to spam each other?], I like that.
 @alan_griffiths [Can't we create a group just for the spammers to spam each other?], Thatd be fun to watch lol
[13:22] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @Tygerpro [Thatd be fun to watch lol], Ikr
 They would no use it :((
 They would if we put them in there
 [Edit] They would not use it :((
 I am curious to the new Fairphone, hope it’ll run Ubuntu too
 Thatd be nice, but I have a feeling it wont without some work
 @llamass [Event income], oh, are you paying me to update pulseaudio?
 lol
 @fredldotme [@dohbee I saw you trying to update pulseaudio and noticed the module-droid packa …], i don't think so, but just trying to get it as close to the previous build, to determine how to go forward
 yeah I saw `pulseaudio-module-droid` in the controls file which disturbed me, I remember the last build taking place in its own repo
 @fredldotme [yeah I saw pulseaudio-module-droid in the controls file which disturbed me, I re …], i don't know. it seemed to be there before, so i added it back
 in any case, what I wanted to come down to: in case this really builds the droid module with it we need a solution for android-24 as well, built with its headers instead of the older android-19 ones
 @fredldotme [in any case, what I wanted to come down to: in case this really builds the droid …], i would much prefer we could build additional modules outside of pulseaudio. would make updating it much simpler in the future
 same here, which we already do with droid-glue{,24}
 [Edit] same here, which we already do with droid-glue{,-24}
 i don't know why canonical don't patch it to do that, and build the snappy module externally
 well, it somewhat makes snappy an "official" offering as part of other projects. I'll call that Open Source Marketing Effort for a lack of a better term
 well, that'd be true if it was upstreamed, and not a distro patch :P
 LOL maybe it's a goal of canonical
[14:18] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/yourapp once ypu installed it], Thanks. I opened it in nano, but got this message: … [ Read 9 lines (Warning: No write permission) ]
 @John (Marlin) [Thanks. I opened it in nano, but got this message: … [ Read 9 lines (Warning: No …], right, only root can write to that path
[14:19] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [right, only root can write to that path], Thanks. The warning went away opening nano with sudo.
[14:23] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [right, only root can write to that path], Is this the right syntax for the main URL in .desktop? … URL=https://www.byuradio.org/listen
 no
[14:28] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> How should I write it?
 @John (Marlin) [How should I write it?], can you pastebin what you already had from webapp creator at https://paste.ubuntu.com or somewhere?
[14:32] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [can you pastebin what you already had from webapp creator at https://paste.ubunt …], Sure. No URL mentioned at all, but the webapp does transfer the URL to Morph and it opens in browser. … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mkdMFwMyZw/
 @John (Marlin) [Sure. No URL mentioned at all, but the webapp does transfer the URL to Morph and …], hmm, looks like either it created the file wrong, or you copied it out of nano which cut the output weirdly
[14:34] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [OnePlus One - April 2014 , Fairphone 2 - December 2015, Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Editi …], I think having a constant retail presence of new phones in the market is more effective than porting to old devices.
[14:34] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [hmm, looks like either it created the file wrong, or you copied it out of nano w …], I did copy it out of nano. The text is exactly as nano displayed it.
 @John (Marlin) [I think having a constant retail presence of new phones in the market is more ef …], unless manufacturers agree, it doesn't matter what we think; we don't have the heft to get retail devices produced and sold at provider outlets
 @John (Marlin) [I did copy it out of nano. The text is exactly as nano displayed it.], right, but there is more to the right if you scroll horizontally; which is why the `Exec=` line looks weird here. if you just `cat` the file, i bet there is more output in the terminal
[14:39] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [right, but there is more to the right if you scroll horizontally; which is why t …], You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], ok, change it to `Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen`
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to ```Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to … ```Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to … ```Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to … ```Exec=webapp-container --webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 grr telegram
[14:48] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [ok, change it to … Exec=webapp-container --webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio …], Okay! Perfect! Now it is performing like a webapp!
 great
[14:53] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [unless manufacturers agree, it doesn't matter what we think; we don't have the h …], Initially it has to be online ordering, like the Pine store or Librem store. The main this is that a consumer have the opportunity to say, hmmm, do I want to buy iOS, Android, or Ubuntu Touch?
[14:54] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [unless manufacturers agree, it doesn't matter what we think; we don't have the h …], [Edit] Initially it has to be online ordering, like the Pine store or Librem store. The main thing is that a consumer have the opportunity to say, hmmm, do I want to buy iOS, Android, or Ubuntu Touch?
 yes but not something we can do anything about now
 all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can choose between android and ubuntu toucg
 [Edit] all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can choose between android and ubuntu touch
 [Edit] all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can think hmm do i want to ship android or ubuntu touch
[16:05] <ubptgbot> Hendrik was added by: Hendrik
[16:11] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can think hmm do i want to …], That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pine, Librem, and Fairphone.
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], Is Fairphone a manufacturer committed to UT?  Did they port UT to the FP? I found https://ubuntu.com/blog/community-initiative-ubports-launches-ubuntu-fairphone-2 that reads as if FP is not involved in UT development.  Are they?
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], Purism will ship PureOS as default on Librem5 (they only support the possibility of other images being installed on the device). Likewise, FP only ships Android by default AFAIK, and only supports that we build images for it. Default for Pi
[16:40] <ubptgbot> nephone has not been chosen yet AFAIK
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], The only thing we can focus on ourselves is making UT better. Ports help, and so do new phones when manufacturers create fully open products, but our primary focus is on making UT better.
 i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday in the morning. … according to the battery indicator in the system, the battery is still at 88%. with android the phone's battery was empty after maximum 8 hours, usually 6 (the phone is also really old tbh) … im already surprised that the phone is still t
[17:01] <ubptgbot> urned on. but i wonder if 88% is really correct. this would mean the phone would last more than a week with ub touch instead of 8 hours with android 🤔
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], do you have a SIM card inserted?
 @fredldotme [do you have a SIM card inserted?], nope
 that explains it. without the modem at work the device can save on the battery
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], Without using mobile data or browser/webapps battery life is much better on UT than Android in my experience. With those two its worse unfortunately.
 @jonny [Without using mobile data or browser/webapps battery life is much better on UT t …], hmm 🤔
 ok
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], my nexus 5 stays charged for several days with no wifi/bt/sim
 my bq E5 usually lasts a week with sim and wifi with browsing from time to time
 My N5 lasts 6-7 hours with use
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[18:44] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> How exactly convergence works on Nexus 5. I understand I need a cable to connect the phone with the monitor but what kind of cable do I need ? I can't seem to find any details about it on UBports website. Please advise.
 Hi everyone :) … I have one Nexus 7 and I am blocked on the install of ubports ^^' … I should to enable the "bootloader" and I don't know how to do :/
 (Photo, 800x634) https://irc.ubports.com/vUhy9bFa.png
 @Zak39 [Hi everyone :) … I have one Nexus 7 and I am blocked on the install of ubports ^^' …], as it says on the screen. hold power and vol dn buttons until you get the bootloader screen
 @mark alexa [How exactly convergence works on Nexus 5. I understand I need a cable to connect …], to connect to an external monitor, you need Slimport cable
 (or a MS Wireless Display Adapter, to use wireless display)
 Hello, I'm new.  … Is Nexus the best option for 'convergence'? and does it work on all models including latest release?
 @mark alexa [How exactly convergence works on Nexus 5. I understand I need a cable to connect …], https://www.amazon.com/Analogix-Semiconductor-SP6001-BlackBerry-SlimPort-Enabled/dp/B015DJ4QYI/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Nexus+5+Slim+Port&qid=1566326873&s=gateway&sr=8-2
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [to connect to an external monitor, you need Slimport cable], A slimport cable ? Ok Let me check that out.
 @amaroq [Hello, I'm new.  … Is Nexus the best option for 'convergence'? and does it work on …], "display on another screen" != "convergence". it is only one aspect of it
 Nexus devices and BQ M10 HD/FHD tablets are only currently supported devices that support wired external display
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [https://www.amazon.com/Analogix-Semiconductor-SP6001-BlackBerry-SlimPort-Enabled …], Awesome, thanks a bunch !
 @mark alexa [Awesome, thanks a bunch !], You're very welcome. I have this cable and it works very well!
[18:51] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Well, I'm getting it right away next week. If it's as great as advertised I might replace my desktop PC for it.
 mark - You will still need a true bluetooth keyboard and mouse though as the Nexus 5 does not support OTG and Slimport at the same time.
[18:52] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [mark - You will still need a true bluetooth keyboard and mouse though as the Nex …], Thanks for mentioning that !
 no micro-usb, or usb-c with usb2 devices support OTG and Slimport at same time, afaik; a few samsung devices have dual-port cables with separate usb and video connections, but that is not the same, and also not slimport
 @dohbee [as it says on the screen. hold power and vol dn buttons until you get the bootlo …], Aaah okay thank you @dohbee :)
 @mark alexa [Well, I'm getting it right away next week. If it's as great as advertised I migh …], unless you do very little on your PC, then a phone is very likely not a replacement
 @mark alexa [Thanks for mentioning that !], You're welcome. It through me for a loop at first and I figured I would help to save you a few minutes of your life (and possibly one to two extra days of amazon shipping) and a bit of frustration 😂
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [The only thing we can focus on ourselves is making UT better. Ports help, and so …], That's certainly important for keeping new people when they try it
 I see Nexus 7's are very cheap to pick up on ebay - it is very old hardware! Is it enough?? Does UBports not run on more modern hardware, too?
 @amaroq [I see Nexus 7's are very cheap to pick up on ebay - it is very old hardware! Is …], nexus 7 2012 is not supported
[18:58] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [unless you do very little on your PC, then a phone is very likely not a replacem …], I code in python and UT is shipped with Python 3.5 out of the box so I should be fine as long as I don't need develop some performance-critical programs.
 porting to newer devices is a bit problematic, especially for android 8+ devices
 @dohbee [nexus 7 2012 is not supported], Arf... How to know if my Nexus 7 isn't of 2012 ?
 Does is it normal that the launcher is always running ?
 @Zak39 [Arf... How to know if my Nexus 7 isn't of 2012 ?], if device name is flo/deb/razor it is 2013. if it's grouper it is 2012.
 (Photo, 840x1050) https://irc.ubports.com/aOGH4Hbu.png
 well if installer detected and is flashing, without manual selection, it must be 2013 model :)
 Okay, thank again @dohbee :)
 I am waiting in the nigth also :)
[19:05] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [unless you do very little on your PC, then a phone is very likely not a replacem …], Besides with 2GB of RAM I know I cant be playing GTA 4 on it.
 Props to the uAdBlock updates. Great work.
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [You're welcome. It through me for a loop at first and I figured I would help to …], The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phone while connected to the external monitor 'coz the only port is in use. 😃
 @mark alexa [The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phon …], One second...
 @mark alexa [The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phon …], there are some cables which will charge the phone as well, but you can't use USB along with video
[19:14] <ubptgbot> bug456 was added by: bug456
 @mark alexa [The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phon …], https://www.amazon.com/kwmobile-SlimPort-Smartphones-Connects-Smartphone/dp/B00U3XNTAM/ref=sr_1_18?crid=1OESLZ642LENQ&keywords=slimport+micro+usb+to+hdmi+adapter&qid=1566328435&s=gateway&sprefix=Slimport+,aps,144&sr=8-18
 mark - and half the price!
 mark - hope that's helpful.
[19:21] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [mark - hope that's helpful.], You've been a blessing man 😉
 @mark alexa [You've been a blessing man 😉], You're welcome. Enjoy blowing the average person's mind and having a truly portable python programming work station 😁
[19:23] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [You're welcome. Enjoy blowing the average person's mind and having a truly porta …], AMEN ! ⌨🖲📱
 @Zak39 [Arf... How to know if my Nexus 7 isn't of 2012 ?], My only caution is that the 2013 LTE model (deb) does not have Bluetooth or camera working for it currently.
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], mine nearly flatlines with airplane mode on
 I am sorry for the unpleasantness
 Is it normal that ubports installer is always flashing images ?
 (Photo, 840x1050) https://irc.ubports.com/d0Cl6An1.png
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/cwlncQMo.png
 you have 2012 nexus 7, which is not supported
 so it can't flsh
 [Edit] so it can't flash
 `PRODUCT NAME - grouper` <- 2012
 Arf damned :/
 Okay, I bought for nothing :/
 Do you know how I can start on Android ? ^^'
 just reboot it. use volume keys to select "restart" and power button to activate
 When I boot it. It's write "Booting failed"
 you can get OEM image from google and follow instructions in it, or get lineageos or other ROM and follow their instructions to flash
 lineageos doesn't support this tablet :/
 I try find the OEM image for Nexus 7
[20:01] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Who's looking after security for UT ?
 everyone
 see something, say something, i guess
 @mark alexa [Who's looking after security for UT ?], too generic, what exactly do you mean
 Someone can he help me to find the latest image for nexus 7 2012 ?
 @Zak39 [Someone can he help me to find the latest image for nexus 7 2012 ?], https://developers.google.com/android/images#nakasi
 I don't find it
 Oh ! Thank @minimec :)
[20:07] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @Flohack [too generic, what exactly do you mean], I'm aware of the fact that UT have userbase around 1800 people (give or take) but all platforms spend great deal of time on protecting the devices against malware or malicious paps that somebody may upload to app store. Again, I know I'm talking about Ubuntu Touch here, however Ubuntu i
[20:07] <ubptgbot> s well known for being the most secure OS. Does UBports have team who focuses on security issues concerning UT ?
 Do you think that the product name "nakasi" is compatible with my tablet (its product name is "grouper") ? … https://developers.google.com/android/images#nakasi
[20:09] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> In other words if somebody with malicious intent uploads dodgy code to the codebase is there any internal built-in antivirus that puts dodgy code into quarantine ?
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> I bet now you know yup need to be very careful about what to say to that haha.
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Not to worry, the last thing I want is to put all your hard work in vain. I respect your work.
 @mark alexa [In other words if somebody with malicious intent uploads dodgy code to the codeb …], I guess it's more like... Once there is a change in the codebase on githuub, the maintainers will have a look at it and then say... WTF!!! ;)
 Ubuntu Touch applications are confined using apparmor. They should not be able to access any data outside of that explicity allowed to them
[20:15] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu Touch applications are confined using apparmor. They should not be able t …], In other words. Unless you give potentially dangerous app access to the rest of the phone's system it can't harm it.
 The system was designed with an open application store in mind, where you cannot have trust in the maintainers of the store or applications to always do what they say they do.
 Camera, microphone, and location access will be asked for. Other permissions are listed on the application's store page
 Applications which take too many permissions or are "unconfined" must be manually reviewed by OpenStore staff
 Not a perfect process, but reduces risk.
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @UniversalSuperBox [Not a perfect process, but reduces risk.], I see.
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @UniversalSuperBox [Applications which take too many permissions or are "unconfined" must be manuall …], This must be the first time I'm hearing about Open Store staff.
 It's basically just Brian. The link to the group for asking for that kind of review is at the bottom of the open store website
[20:19] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> By the end of the year I intent to start pitching in to support development of UT. I bet it will be money well spent.
 Well, thank you in advance. :D
[20:20] <ubptgbot> ogogon was added by: ogogon
 @Zak39 [Do you think that the product name "nakasi" is compatible with my tablet (its pr …], yes, nakasi is the right image
 @mark alexa [In other words if somebody with malicious intent uploads dodgy code to the codeb …], code to system components is reviewed, and we also receive security fixes via Ubuntu updates for many parts in the lower levels of the system
[20:28] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [code to system components is reviewed, and we also receive security fixes via Ub …], UT is based on Ubuntu 16.04 code base which is supported till 2021 if I'm not wrong. Would be interesting to observe how the UT codebase is being updated to newer version.
[20:56] <ubptgbot> erdzas was added by: erdzas
 @mark alexa [UT is based on Ubuntu 16.04 code base which is supported till 2021 if I'm not wr …], yes, we're currently on 16.04 base, which is supported until April 2021
[21:29] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Is UT community on Mastodon ?
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], actually that will probably happen first before we'll even reach average consumer
 @mark alexa [Is UT community on Mastodon ?], yes
 iirc
 Hi everyone, someone tried to install Ubuntu touch on a Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime?
 It is not supported
 thanks.


[11:38] <cjohnston|cell> mdke ping
[15:05] <cathalobrien> hey just looking any getting involved in the documentation side of things for Ubuntu. Just to note it seems a little too complicated to get started. I know where the bugs are located but is there a task list or plan for the doc team to work over the next few months. I saw an area for tasks but nothing much is on it.
[21:06] <mdke> cjohnston: hi
[21:06] <cjohnston> hey mdke
[21:06] <cjohnston> Did you see my email reference adding info to the community contributions page of the wiki?
[21:07] <mdke> cjohnston: yes but I'm afraid I don't have time to work on it at present. Possibly next weekend I could
[21:08] <cjohnston> ok.. any suggestion on someone I could poke to ask?
[21:08] <mdke> I don't think you can do more than sending a followup email
[21:08] <cjohnston> ok
[21:08] <cjohnston> thanks
[21:09] <mdke> cjohnston: what's the rationale for not simply linking to the DocumentationTeam wiki page, rather than reproducing material?
[21:09] <cjohnston> Redoing www.ubuntu.com/community
[21:09] <cjohnston> Providing some text with a little about what is done
[21:10] <mdke> I guess you've seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu ?
[21:10] <mdke> this seems like a replacement or rewrite for that, am I right?
[21:13] <cjohnston> No.. I haven't seen that.. This is to redo the community page currently on ubuntu.com with things identified at last UDS as projects desired to be listed
[21:24] <mdke> cjohnston: ok, if no one else does anything, I'll see if I can get to it next weekend
[21:24] <cjohnston> ok.. thanks mdke
[21:24] <mdke> cjohnston: I can't commit to anything during this week I'm afraid
[21:24] <cjohnston> ok.. :-)
[21:29] <mdke> I guess "Dan 'Da Man' isn't on irc?


[10:04] <davidcalle> mhr3, I can now confirm : results deduplication, merging and sorting from multiple scopes, work perfectly from Python.
[10:04] <mhr3> davidcalle, awesomeness ;)
[10:05] <davidcalle> mhr3, yeah, I even found a way to have ultrafast deduplication
[10:05] <mhr3> davidcalle, could i get you to test it with the flow renderer as well?
[10:05] <mhr3> davidcalle, heh, cool :)
[10:05] <davidcalle> mhr3, sure.
[10:06] <mhr3> davidcalle, and yea, open a bug then
[10:12] <davidcalle> mhr3, doesn't work with flow, opening bug
[10:13] <mhr3> davidcalle, thx
[10:16] <davidcalle> mhr3, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1040005
[11:02] <jell> hi
[11:02] <jell> hi
[11:03] <jell> is there some way to capture click on appindicator icon?
[11:04] <jell> i have some menu connected with .set_menu, but 'show' event on this menu seems to be not emited
[11:53] <njin> Hallo, which is the name of the orange tranparent window ?
[11:57] <popey> njin, don't think it has a name, it's the grid compiz plugin that does it.
[11:57] <njin> popey, thanks
[12:07] <jell> is this a right place for asking about how to program something for appindicator?
[12:23] <bilal> Trevinho: there?
[13:47] <bobweaver> Is there plans to remove the unity-panel ?
[13:47] <bobweaver> or am I right in thinking that this is a bug ?
[13:47] <bobweaver> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1040062
[13:48] <popey> bobweaver, it probably crashed
[13:49] <bobweaver> popey,  on boot up ?
[13:49] <bobweaver> I will look at boot log
[13:49] <bobweaver> thanks
[13:50] <bobweaver> popey,  take a look at the screen shot that I uploaded with that bug you will see that the name of the app is still there (top left) but the memmenu the cog and everything else is gone
[13:51] <popey> bobweaver, check ~/.xsession-errors
[13:51] <popey> yes, i did :)
[13:51] <popey>  /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service has probably died
[13:51] <bobweaver> thanks you are always 2 steps ahead if me :)
[13:51] <popey> nah, I just always click whatever links people throw at me on irc :D
[13:51] <bobweaver> lol
[13:51] <bobweaver> yeah not looking good
[13:52] <bobweaver> (unity-panel-service:8323): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.compiz.unityshell' is not installed
[13:52] <bobweaver> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[13:52] <bobweaver> also the screen shots in the perview should not be comming from screenshot.debian.net
[13:53] <popey> that;'d do it
[13:53] <bobweaver> thouse are super super old
[13:53] <bobweaver> like qt creator shot is like from qt 1.X
[13:53] <bobweaver> we are now on 2.5
[13:53] <bobweaver> it is misleading to the enduser
[13:53] <popey> file a bug :)
[13:54] <popey> i think you can submit new screenshots
[13:54] <bobweaver> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1040069
[13:54] <bobweaver> nope I have tried many times
[13:55] <bobweaver> because it is not what it looks like i  debian it gets rejected
[13:55] <popey> your bug doesn't actually show the problem
[13:55] <popey> i see no screenshot highlighting the issue
[13:55] <bobweaver> I will take and upload
[13:55] <bobweaver> thanks again popey
[13:55] <popey> so a) calling something "crap", b) not providing evidence, generally leads to people not giving it the priority you might like
[13:56] <popey> balloons, mhall119 did we ever have a community call for updated screenshots?
[13:56] <popey> for USC etc
[13:56] <bobweaver> ok so now it is not even showing screenshots
[13:56] <bobweaver> in unity-preview
[13:57] <bobweaver> like glib has crashed I should reboot
[13:57] <bobweaver> brb
[13:57] <bobweaver> thanks again popey
[13:57] <popey> no anytime
[13:58] <mhall119> popey: screenshots of what?
[13:59] <popey> previews of apps in USC
[14:02] <bobweaver> working again after reboot
[14:03] <bobweaver> screenshots pictures from debian that is
[14:05] <popey> bobweaver, where are you seeing them?
[14:05] <bobweaver> yeah I am uploading pics aws
[14:05] <bobweaver> oh I am seeing them n the unity preview
[14:05] <bobweaver> in *
[14:05] <bobweaver> right click
[14:05] <bobweaver> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1040069/+attachment/3271804/+files/Screenshot%20from%202012-08-22%2010%3A02%3A06.png
[14:06] <bobweaver> I wonder if I can change name of that ?
[14:06] <popey> awesome!
[14:06] <bobweaver> there we go changed from crap to bad :)
[14:06] <popey> "old" :)
[14:06] <popey> nice one, thanks bobweaver
[14:07] <bobweaver> lol yeah I used that in 2008 :;)
[14:08] <bobweaver> I wish that I would have know that team unity was doing this there is a ton of stuff that  I can help out with
[14:09] <bobweaver> popey,  changing from bad to "old"
[14:09] <bobweaver> thanks again
[14:11] <bobweaver> I would love to take screenshots all day long and upload if that helps
[14:30] <bobweaver> Hello there I am really really I mean really into Ubuntu TV I am held back by the fact that Unity has no way of saying --force-tv, I want to know what I can do to help this
[14:30] <bobweaver> who is working on this ?
[14:31] <bobweaver> what would a game plan with it be ?
[14:31] <bobweaver> like in QT it is a form factor that gets called can this happen with unity 3d ?
[14:31] <bobweaver> unity --force-tv
[14:32] <bobweaver> I keep spinning my dang wheels like here is a example
[14:32] <bobweaver> 1) more I make qt the more it gets tossed
[14:33] <bobweaver> 2) if I paint over Unity3d to make it look and feel like Ubuntu TV then there is no --force-tv
[14:33] <bobweaver> so that is where I am stuck
[14:33] <bobweaver> What do I do ?
[14:34] <bobweaver> Like I love the New Unity-previews and I can see that working in the TV but not with out a core stuctor
[14:35] <bobweaver> I do not work for cananical so even If I do make my own it will mean nothing
[14:35] <bobweaver> So I *BEG* of you please let me in the loop
[14:35] <bobweaver> I know C++ real well and also python vala c the list goes on forever
[14:36] <bobweaver> I just want to have a great tv
[14:36] <bobweaver> and Have been asking this same question for 3 months NOW
[14:36] <bobweaver> I dont know what else I can do ...
[14:37] <bobweaver> I am practically on my knees Begging someone to trow me a bone
[14:37] <bobweaver> ATP
[14:37] <popey> bobweaver, i dont know the answer to your question, I know that today everyone has their head down because it's feature freeze
[14:37] <popey> perhaps a mail to the unity list?
[14:37] <tedg> Isn't there a #ubuntu-tv channel?
[14:38] <popey> there is, but I don't think people there will necessarily be able to detail answers either
[14:38] <bobweaver> tedg,  I am on that channel alot and have asked that there also thanks
[14:38] <popey> probably unity-dev list
[14:38] <bobweaver> All I want to do is help :)
[14:38] <tedg> I don't think it's going to be --force-tv though.
[14:38] <tedg> We really want the UI to be more dynamic, like not restarting Unity to change.
[14:39] <bobweaver> I have many mnay many ideas about that including some that have to do with julius and vox
[14:40] <bobweaver> ubuntu one as a remote control (aka use it to control the tv also sell movies and what not and SD )
[14:40] <bobweaver> sceduals Direct that is
[14:40] <bobweaver> schedulesdirect *
[14:41] <bobweaver> I mean how cool would it be to be able to launch your tv from anywhere where there is ubuntu one
[14:42] <bobweaver> (mythweb + altered code + USSO)
[14:42] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: Cry to the dev's in #ubuntu-release or #ubuntu-dev is better
[14:43] <bobweaver> there are 2 people at ubuntu-dev lol
[14:43] <smartboyhw> Maybe the wrong channel
[14:43] <smartboyhw> #ubuntu-devel?
[14:43] <popey> smartboyhw, no, that's not right
[14:43] <smartboyhw> I don't know?!?!?!
[14:45] <bobweaver> thanks everyone I do 1 respect you thoughts and 2) think that you are awesome for talking back to me. But I have a feeling that this is more then that and I am going to have to picket in order to get anwser I mean I have asked for 3 months now
[14:45] <popey> you're presuming someone knows the answer
[14:45] <popey> :)
[14:45] <bobweaver> correct
[14:45] <popey> that's not always the case
[14:46] <smartboyhw> popey: Er
[14:46] <bobweaver> thanks for the heads up popey  you my fine sir are awesome !
[14:46] <smartboyhw> #ubuntu-devel worked for me
[14:46] <popey> but I'd certainly start discussions like this on the unity-design or unity-dev lists
[14:47] <popey> smartboyhw, for design based unity decisions #ubuntu-devel isn't the right place, the mailing list is
[14:47] <bobweaver> will do popey
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[14:48] <bobweaver> I still do not see how ubuntu phone is going to run on Unity 3d and not 2d but that is a whole different story sorry OTF
[14:48] <popey> bobweaver, magic
[14:48] <smartboyhw> popey: LOl
[14:49] <bobweaver> popey,  lol is Ayatana still going or should I send to different mailing list ?
[14:50] <bobweaver> This is the address that I have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:51] <popey> either that or unity-dev
[14:51] <popey> depending on your questions
[14:53] <bobweaver> cool popey  I guess my real question is where do I go from here ? how to make Ubuntu TV with Unity 3d and who is working on this So I can communicate with them
[15:36] <sil2100> Trevinho: hi!
[15:36] <sil2100> Trevinho: are you around?
[15:53] <davidcalle> mhr3, do you know if the libunity fixes for merge strategy are already in distro?
[15:54] <seb128> davidcalle, they are not, I just pinged him and sil2100 to get a release out ;-)
[15:54] <davidcalle> seb128, thanks :)
[15:54] <seb128> davidcalle, yw
[15:55] <mhr3> davidcalle, seb128, all changes that were needed were in dee
[15:56] <davidcalle> mhr3, ok
[15:57] <mhr3> and unity itself of course
[16:30] <mhall119> mhr3: is the staging PPA fixed now?
[16:30] <mhall119> no more gschema bugs
[16:30] <mhall119> I'd like to try the previews again
[16:31] <mhr3> staging ppa is never fixed :)
[16:31] <mhr3> it just *sometimes* works
[16:31] <mhall119> heh, ok, fair enough
[16:31] <mhall119> do the parts that were not working before work now?
[16:35] <mhr3> well, some parts got fixed, other got more broken
[16:35] <mhr3> mhall119, just be patient :)
[16:36]  * mhall119 isn't very good at being patient
[16:36] <mhall119> mhr3: can you check the build instructions on http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/ and let me know if they're still accurate
[16:37] <mhr3> mhall119, can it wait till next week pls?
[16:37] <mhall119> thumper: do you want me to remove the Unity 2D buid instructions from unity.ubuntu.com?
[16:37] <mhall119> mhr3: sure sure, no rush
[16:37] <mhr3> mhall119, cool, pls remind me then
[16:37] <mhall119> will do
[16:37] <thumper> mhall119: it is still in 12.04, so potentially worth leaving, but with caveats
[16:38] <mhall119> thumper: ok, I'll put a note at the top that it's being dropped starting in 12.10, and make a mental note to remove it after we release
[16:48] <bobweaver> I have the stagging ppa being used on my computer and it seems to work alright
[17:54] <sdh> hello all, i wonder if anybody running something close to default unity on ubuntu 12.04 can help me confirm some weird behaviour i'm seeing
[17:56] <sdh> if i have several windows open for one application, and switch between them with alt-`, i get strange behaviour
[17:58] <sdh> if i press alt, tap `, keep holding alt... the windows reorder as my focus shifts through
[17:58] <sdh> it's hard to explain but if anybody can spare a minute to check for me, i can explain more :)
[18:00] <bschaefer> sdh, that should be fixed!
[18:00] <bschaefer> in the next update at lease
[18:02] <sdh> ah, is it known?
[18:02] <sdh> i tried looking on launchpad but couldn't figure a good set of search terms
[18:03] <bschaefer> sdh, this is what you're looking for :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1035668
[18:03] <bschaefer> sdh, it also causes that reordering you see
[18:04] <sdh> you are a star, thank you
[18:04]  * sdh reads
[18:04] <bschaefer> haha np :)
[18:18] <sdh> bschaefer: many thanks for your help... having resisted unity for a long time, i am trying to bear with it now. so far things are going well and your help is appreciated :)
[18:19] <bschaefer> sdh, you're welcome and that's great to hear :)
[18:23] <sdh> so, as i understand the bug entry, the fix has been committed and will come in 12.04.2, is that right?
[18:25] <bschaefer> sdh, yeah, in 5.16? I think, which should get released soon
[18:27] <sdh> bschaefer: thanks - i don't fully understand the ubuntu release mechanisms! will that come down soon if i am daily doing apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[18:28] <bschaefer> sdh, no worries, Im still getting use to it :) and yup that is where you'll get it!
[18:29] <sdh> bschaefer: cool, thanks. maybe if i get time i'll try to read around the topic a bit, thanks again :)
[18:29] <bschaefer> sdh, np! Here is the list of SRU fixes going in. When it says Fix Released then you are able to get it: https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/5.16.0


[02:27]  * lajjr rebooting
[13:36] <ryanakca> Has there been any progress on the feature tour for 9.10 ?


[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow__> I dont know what a pi3b is but let me check with my guys
[00:00] <AXIS> when i try to download updates, i get "not enough free disk space" error
[00:00] <AXIS> raspberry pi 3b
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow__> I asked over in Mint.. I will let you know..
[00:02] <AXIS> thank you
[00:02] <AXIS> now, what's mintmate?
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow__> Different flavor of linux, but no we dont have a bui;d for you chip
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow__> Jack_Sparrow__: there is _no_ ARM build of linux mint, so you cannot install it on a raspberry
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow__> Let me look for a sec
[00:06] <AXIS> haha, I love trump, but he looks like a blonde tony clifton
[00:06] <AXIS> w/o the shades
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow__> arch linux raspberry pi image                in a browser
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow__> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[00:08] <AXIS> well, there's a mate for the pi
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow__> http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/06/debian-wheezy-raspberry-pi-minimal-image/
[00:08] <AXIS> i loaded it onto a pi 3
[00:09] <AXIS> i've been through all the wheezies and jessies
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow__> AXIS, Thos other places might have hints
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow__> Have fun
[00:09] <AXIS> oh
[00:09] <AXIS> thanks jack
[02:52] <user0_> my system froze today. I think it has to do something with Compiz
[02:53] <user0_> So I switched to Marco. RX570 on Ryzen 7
[11:47] <ouroumov> user0_, I think you're the first Ryzen user, if you can post your specs on the forum
[12:19] <satyajit> hello ubuntu-mate.
[17:14] <klaus> Habe gestern erstmalig ubuntu auf einem alten mac installiert, leider läuft kein Ton. Wer kann helfen?
[19:57] <sovereignentity> everything on my bottom panel disappeared what is the app called that displays the open apps?
[20:22] <sovereignentity> everything on my bottom panel disappeared what is the app called that displays the open apps?
[20:35] <Akuli> sovereignentity, press ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal and run this command on it:   mate-panel --reset
[20:35] <Akuli> boom, everything's back :)
[20:54] <Datz> Hi, I'm on 15.10 and would like to upgrade to 16.04 Will aptitude dist-upgrade get me there/
[20:54] <Datz> Or.. what is the easiest way?
[20:55] <Datz> There doesn't seem to be any upgrade client that presents an option to upgrade
[23:21] <sovereignentity> Akuli that's ot working on 16.04
[23:46] <david_> hey
[23:47] <david_> the earth is flat
[23:48] <vasni> rlly?
[23:48] <david_> yup
[23:48] <vasni> how you know? :0
[23:49] <david_> well natural science tells me my friend
[23:50] <vasni> and what do you think about Copernico?
[23:50] <david_> a very intelligent man in my opinion
[23:51] <david_> what sysem is everyone on. i just got a raspberry pi 3
[23:52] <vasni> idk
[23:52] <vasni> im in mate 17.04
[23:52] <vasni> but i have problems with the wifi :(
[23:53] <vasni> do you know how to solve this?
[23:53] <david_> i tried to update to that one
[23:53] <david_> not really what are you running it from


[22:16] <hggdh_> no visible staff available here... so #freenode, here we come
[22:17] <hggdh> cm-t: I asked for a ubuntu/member/cm-t cloak for you.
[22:27] <teward> hggdh: when is IRC staff ever on when we want em to be xD
[22:27] <teward> :P
[22:27] <hggdh> heh
[22:28] <hggdh> teward: but they do respond (and I already had an ack, but cm-t is probably sleeping now, so we will have to wait (he has to confirm the cloak name)
[22:29] <teward> indeed
[22:29] <teward> hggdh: indeed, but the original assessment remains :P
[22:29] <teward> at least, when i lurk freenode they're never around XD
[22:36] <hggdh> Murphy explains :-)
[23:11] <Unit193> Flannel needs sasl already. :D
[23:11] <teward> heh


[00:06] <valorie> good grief the matrix is disturbed today
[19:33] <ahoneybun> wxl: you have access to the mastodon right?
[19:34] <wxl> ahoneybun: yes, but as i said, i have no way of getting notifications except by logging in and i'm not going to be logged in all the time i'm sorry to say.
[19:35] <ahoneybun> good wanted to check
[19:35] <wxl> so i'm on call if someone wants something posted :)
[19:35] <ahoneybun> ah that might be mastodon limit
[20:42] <valorie> I basically only login to post to both twitter, fb and masto
[20:42] <valorie> -both
[20:42] <valorie> add G+ and reddit
[20:42] <valorie> so, we still need a social media lover!
[20:44]  * acheronuk considers social media a necessary evil
[20:45] <valorie> for me that's true, but if other people like it, I'm ok with that
[20:46] <valorie> and we gotta reach out to where the people are
[20:46] <acheronuk> I quite like twitter. for it's simplicity
[20:48] <valorie> maybe I need to quit following accounts that bother me
[20:49] <valorie> but there are more and more ads and I hate every single one of 'em
[20:49] <acheronuk> oh, I adblock those
[20:53] <valorie> on twitter?
[20:54] <valorie> huh
[20:54] <valorie> well, I usually read it on my phone
[20:54] <valorie> not sure I can do that on my phone
[20:55] <acheronuk> I just stick to social media on laptop. There is never anything urgent enough or interesting enough, that I need to know about it on a phone :P
[20:56] <acheronuk> laptop/desktop/tablet
[20:58] <acheronuk> I am trying not to start on that slippery slope!
[21:08] <valorie> ah, for me what's on the phone is more frivolous
[21:09] <valorie> social media isn't serious unless there is horrible storms or other catastrophes where I need to check on people
[21:09] <valorie> because twitter used to be a bit more fun
[21:10] <valorie> now it all seems either deadly serious or plain old stupid
[21:11] <acheronuk> trump effect
 I'm a Twitter fanatic, let me post things :P
[21:17] <valorie> acheronuk: maybe
[21:17] <valorie> but trump is only a symptom, not the actual problem
[21:18] <acheronuk> yes, I was joking (mostly)
[21:19] <valorie> well, it shows up all kinds of places
[21:19] <valorie> I mean gosh, the number of drug overdoses in parts of the US are large enough to actually drag down the statistical life expectancy for the entire country
[21:19] <valorie> we have some problems here
[21:19] <acheronuk> yep. he is just the most high profile manifest ion
[21:20] <acheronuk> *manifestation
[21:20] <valorie> as I do my genealogy, I see poor folks in the 30s and 40s prospering later
[21:21] <valorie> and it seems partly because of the war
[21:21] <valorie> lots of guys in the military for awhile, and the economy picks up, there are more taxes so more services, better education, etc.
[21:22] <valorie> now we're doing the opposite -- cutting taxes, services, education and down goes everything
[21:23] <acheronuk> but he's a genius, and stable. it will surely work?
[21:24]  * acheronuk hides
[21:27] <valorie> mmmm
[21:27] <valorie> yeah
[21:27] <valorie> watching to see how that goes
[21:28] <acheronuk> well, we in the UK have our own pending **** hole to plunge down, so not really any better off IMO
[21:33] <valorie> well, that's part of the bigger picture
[21:34] <valorie> it seems sort of a revolt against modernity and fear of all "outsiders"
[21:34] <valorie> not just Europe, not just "the west"
[21:35] <valorie> god, guns, and gold
[21:35] <valorie> it's pretty scary even if it doesn't upend the whole tea cart
[22:03] <tsimonq2> oooh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqN1JkqsRvY
 yesh, I saw that
[22:11] <valorie> thanks for the link, tsimonq2
[22:12] <valorie> the leadup that I saw yesterday was ridiculously overblown and still great
[22:19] <valorie> ohmygosh, he's going to paddle the Nile
[22:19] <valorie> how cool
 :D
[22:20] <wxl> he ain't gonna get much packaging done like that >:(
[22:21] <valorie> not for a couple of weeks, yeah


[03:15] <daker> mhall119, is there any django session ?
[13:22]  * ilmari idly wonders when maverick packages are going to show up on packages.ubuntu.com (bug 599887)
[13:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 599887 in ubuntu-website "packages.ubuntu.com is missing maverick (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599887
[14:46] <mhall119> daker: there will be a django session Friday
[14:47] <mhall119> two actually
[14:47] <daker> oh thanks
[14:54] <newz2000> hey all
[14:54] <newz2000> webmaster job is hitting the site soon
[14:54] <newz2000> if you're interested, in a nutshell: location is London, drupal experience, google analytics and "Immaculate attention to detail"
[14:55] <newz2000> contact me directly and I can help you get your foot in the door
[15:14] <stas__> newz2000: don't you have something for wordpress guys? :)
[15:14] <newz2000> stas__: sorry, not at the moment.
[15:15] <newz2000> Were you thinking about moving to London?
[15:16] <stas__> newz2000: hmm, not really, just wanted to know about wordpress too :)
[22:31] <mhall119> newz2000: is the location a strict requirement, or just a nice to have?
[22:38] <newz2000> mhall119: I'm guessing they're going to consider this a strict requirement for now, but if no suitable candidates turn up they may open it
[22:39] <newz2000> I've seen that happen before
[22:39] <mhall119> ok
[23:55] <dieki> newz2000: You sent my paste.u.c theme to the person that is in charge of that, but he's neither contacted me or altered the website. Was my theme not suitable?