[06:08] <gr33n7007h> oh ok lol
[06:08] <Duromorir> my grub choise was lost
[06:08] <Duromorir> ~_~1
[06:08] <Duromorir> last time i use 2 os
[06:08] <Duromorir> win and gnacktrack
[06:08] <Duromorir> an then i reinstall my win7
[06:09] <Duromorir> and now, i can't use my gnactracck again after i finish install my win7
[06:09] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | Duromorir
[06:09] <Dr_ubuntu> will the new release be tomorrow?
[06:11] <jasef> Yep, 13th Oct in GMT time
[06:15] <keithzg> Hmm, I'm trying to help someone remotely diagnose graphics issues on an HD 4350, what's the open source drivers package actually called these days? I always seem to have Intel or Nvidia so I'm a bit unsure.
[06:15] <os1ris> I have looked all over the internet. I cant not seem to find out where/how to get my lower taskbar back( one that has the trash and so on) i accidently removed it.. Can somone help me on getting this back? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
[06:15] <cypha> Can I get help in locating where ctrl:swapcaps is has been set?  I was over thinking the problem. Looking at gconf editor and all that.. hah thx man
[06:18] <os1ris> Well i was googling the heck out of stuff and looking on the forums
[06:18] <coolfire> kj
[06:18] <airtonix> no worries os1ris
[06:19] <Nicolus> ick
[06:19] <os1ris> but everyting was for other stuff. Well thanks again... Nothing like a admin lookin like a n3wb
[06:19] <os1ris> l8rs
[06:19] <airtonix> os1ris: if you haven't already, checkout askubuntu
[06:19] <cypha> how do I find a file at the command line?
[06:19] <cypha> "find .gnomerc"
[06:19] <airtonix> cypha: depends.
[06:20] <cypha> airtonix, on?
[06:20] <airtonix> cypha: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/find/ZmluZA==/sort-by-votes
[06:20] <cypha> i want to search the whole filesystem
[06:20] <airtonix> cypha: if you're looking for filenames then its one tool, if you are looking for a file containing a certain phrase then it's another tool
[06:21] <cypha> i'm looking for file names
[06:21] <airtonix> cypha: (there are infact numerous tools to do this task)
[06:21] <cypha> so just tell me one syntax please
[06:21] <airtonix> cypha: checkout that page i linked for you
[06:22] <cypha> airtonix, what would be your preferred method of searching for a filename?
[06:22] <airtonix> find ~/.ssh -name '*.pub'
[06:23] <cypha> what's ~/.ssh for?
[06:23] <fritsch> cypha: man ssh
[06:23] <airtonix> cypha: it's the location, that one says " look for all the files that end in .pub inside the .ssh folder under my home folder"
[06:23] <cypha> no, that's not what I'm asking fritsch
[06:24] <airtonix> cypha: so you want to find the .gnomerc file ?
[06:24] <airtonix> cypha: or files that end in .gnomerc (which is a theme file right ? )
[06:24] <fritsch> cypha: okay, got - so man find :-)
[06:24] <cypha> airtonix, actually, I have no idea what I want to find, I was just gonna try a bnucha crap
[06:24] <cypha> fritsch, keep your rtfm's to yourself
[06:25] <airtonix> have some paitence
[06:25] <cypha> airtonix, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc4
[06:25] <fritsch> cypha: sometimes reading and understanding is better than copying commands
[06:25] <cypha> I think I did that
[06:25] <airtonix> cypha: i highly recommend commandlinefu.com
[06:26] <airtonix> cypha: i'm not a fan of emacs or vi
[06:26] <cypha> and basically I cannot undo the ctrl and capslock swap
[06:26] <airtonix> cypha: sorry, no idea
[06:26] <cypha> according to Xorg.log, it's still happening
[06:26] <cypha> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d
[06:26] <cypha> if you search for "caps" in there, you can see the line
[06:26] <cypha> but I don't know what file on my system has that line
[06:27] <cypha> like where in the world are those "options" being read from
[06:27] <cypha> got a good way to find that?
[06:27] <cypha> grepping has lead me nowhere
[06:27] <fritsch> cypha: your xorg.conf is empty, isn't it?
[06:28] <cypha> no
[06:28] <fritsch> cypha: but there you already looked and it is not in?
[06:28] <cypha> nope
[06:28] <fritsch> cypha: cause this is the first one, this could be in
[06:28] <cypha> there's stuf in there, but that's not in there
[06:28] <cypha> I checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:30] <cypha> any ideas?
[06:30] <fritsch> cypha: check keyboard-configuration package
[06:31] <cypha> i have it
[06:31] <cypha> how do I run it?
[06:31] <cypha> or check it
[06:31] <fritsch> cypha: you want to reconfigure it?
[06:31] <fritsch> cypha: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[06:32] <lapion> I am really beginning to become fond of microsoft, they have really made it easy for us linux afficionados with windows 8 we will be having a hell of a lot of people switching to linux
[06:32] <lapion> oth windows 8 will bring all kinds of n00bs and other rather irritating ppl screaming to us and driving us crazy.. in the end we might flip and the only os we'd be able to use is the retarded w8 .,,,,...,,.,,..,.,,.
[06:32] <cypha> generic 105-key (intl) pc
[06:32] <cypha> ?
[06:32] <cypha> not sure why it's intl
[06:32] <cypha> i'm in the US
[06:32] <FloodBot1> cypha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <Ben64> people said that about vista, didn't happen then
[06:33] <cypha> fritsch, that's the same stuff that's in the gnome-control-center Keyboard settings
[06:33] <dageriv> my laptop just froze, and after two seconds, decided to reboot. i am now logged in after this, which logs should i check to find out what happened?
[06:34] <cypha> but when I uncheck swap capslock and cntrl, it just ends up rechecked when I close and open
[06:34] <TehDGM> Ben64: but for vista they didnt attempt to force a "tablet ui" on us..
[06:34] <TehDGM> that'll be all i have to say about that :P
[06:35] <sandking> hello
[06:35] <Jordan_U> !ot | TehDGM lapion Ben64
[06:35] <Jordan_U> lapion: Please don't use "retarded" as a pejorative.
[06:35] <sandking> i got 11.04 installed - is update to 11.10 automatic or do i need to do somtehing specific outside update manager? (I think I read that 11.04 and after it should be automatic)
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: sorry no idea either - but i am interested :-)
[06:37] <Northwoods> Can i create a shortcut on panel or a keyboard shortcut for opening a folder like /home/northwoods/web/
[06:37] <cypha> Jordan_U, you should make a trigger for that
[06:37] <cypha> :)
[06:37] <airtonix> Northwoods: yes
[06:37] <Northwoods> airtonix: sorry but i'm new , how can we do it ?
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: as a last hint
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: could work
[06:38] <airtonix> Northwoods: ok so you have your file manageer open to the folder you want the shortcut pointing to ?
[06:38] <airtonix> Northwoods: also which version of ubuntu are you using ?
[06:38] <Northwoods> yes , 10.xx
[06:39] <Northwoods> 10.04 lucid
[06:39] <airtonix> Northwoods: simply ctrl shift drag the folder to the panel
[06:39] <cypha> fritsch, aren't these all the same options available in the gui?
[06:39] <airtonix> Northwoods: sorry ctrl shift drag to the desktop, then drag that icon on the desktop to your panel
[06:39] <Northwoods> airtonix:
[06:39] <Northwoods> thanks
[06:39] <fritsch> cypha: not sure for systemwide
[06:39] <airtonix> Northwoods: no problems
[06:40] <cypha> fritsch, what're the default options?
[06:40] <cypha> utf-8
[06:40] <cypha> ?
[06:40] <fritsch> cypha: jep
[06:40] <cypha> and then character set to support?
[06:40] <fritsch> cypha: just leave the default - i am still searching the correct way to change it
[06:41] <cypha> fritsch, didn't change capslock/ctrl
[06:42] <fritsch> cypha: http://dinomite.net/2007/caps-lock-to-control-on-ubuntu/#.TpU25P3Bz5g <- this one, you have tried?
[06:43] <cypha> fritsch, yes
[06:43] <cypha> and by tried, I mean, I looked in xorg.conf, and that line is not there
[06:44] <Jordan_U> cypha: Have you tested a LiveCD of the same release of Ubuntu yet?
[06:44] <cypha> Jordan_U, i don't have a blank cd
[06:44] <Jordan_U> cypha: This is VirtualBox, you can treat the iso like a CD.
[06:44] <cypha> Jordan_U, if it occurs on the live cd, what would that indicate? that my Host or VBox are at fault?
[06:45] <cypha> oh, good point
[06:45] <Jordan_U> cypha: Yes.
[06:45] <cypha> k, i'll do it now
[06:46] <cypha> i hope you have options for me if it doesn't work!
[06:46] <fritsch> cypha: manual xorg.conf for your keyboard settings should work
[06:46] <fritsch> cypha: but another way would be batter
[06:46] <fritsch> cypha: custom xmodmap is another alternative
[06:47] <cypha> Jordan_U, I've got the ubuntu ISO
[06:47] <cypha> how do I load it up?
[06:47] <cypha> you mean create a new machine?
[06:50] <harry_> Fedora 15 users???
[06:50] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I!
[06:50] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> But this is Ubuntu chanel
[06:54] <ryannathans> when raid card is inserted, 11.04, 11.10 and fedora 15 all kernel panic on boot
[06:54] <ryannathans> 10.04 can't even read it
[06:54] <ryannathans> works perfect under windows i might add
[06:54] <trench> what kind of crappy raidcard?
[06:55] <trench> every crappy raidcard works in windows
[06:55] <ryannathans> crappy? it's RRP is ~$600
[06:55] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I once had a Crappy USB soundcard that only worked in FreeBSD
[06:55] <TehDGM> maybe it just needs some kernal module
[06:55] <ryannathans> adapec 3805
[06:55] <TehDGM> kernel too
[06:55] <ryannathans> aacraid is what is needed i beleive
[06:57] <phlak_user> ryannathans: you can compile it into the kernel like so -> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/aac.4freebsd.html
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> Hey guys
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> I feel I just somehow screwed myself
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> I am setting up ubuntu for the first time, and now when I
[06:57] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Please elaborate
[06:57] <ohzie> :[
[06:57] <ryannathans> phlak_user: I've seen that, i dont have anything to compile it on
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> "cd ~" in command line, it takes me to a completely naked directory.
[06:57] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> !enter
[06:58] <trench> http://www.adaptec.com/weblog//2007/11/15/how-do-i-get-adaptec-storage-manager-to-work-with-ubuntu-710/
[06:58] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Did you create a user without making a home directory for that use
[06:58] <ohzie> user*
[06:58] <Alxjrvs> Sorry, ubottu. I'll try not to. Long story short, cd ~ used to always take me to my home directory (/home/username/) but now it takes me to an empty directory. "cd .." brings me to root.
[06:58] <Alxjrvs> I do not believe so.
[06:58] <ryannathans> trench: 404
[06:59] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> What happens when you type "pwd", Alxjrvs
[06:59] <trench> http://www.adaptec.com/weblog/2009/07/24/improving-support-for-debian-based-oss/
[06:59] <Lasers> Alxjrvs: "echo $USER" reports what?
[06:59] <phlak_user> Alxjrvs: press ctl+d
[06:59] <Alxjrvs> MAREK: /home/alxjrvs
[06:59] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> That means you're in your home directory :)
[07:00] <ryannathans> trench: the driver is in the kernel
[07:00] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: do "ls -A"
[07:00] <ryannathans> trench: I need to compile it, but have no machine to do so
[07:00] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: If you really think there should be anything in your home directory, that should show it to you
[07:00] <ryannathans> can somebody compile a kernel for me?
[07:00] <Alxjrvs> MAREL: forgive me, I was actually in my home directory at the time. cd ~, then pwd gives me "/root"
[07:00] <Ben64> ryannathans: compile it in livecd
[07:00] <Alxjrvs> ...
[07:01] <Alxjrvs> I fear I just solved my own question.
[07:01] <Ben64> Alxjrvs: are you logged in as root?
[07:01] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: ;p;
[07:01] <ohzie> lol*
[07:01] <Alxjrvs> Alright.
[07:01] <Alxjrvs> Feeling like a noob on IRC. Brings me back to the good old days.
[07:01] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: It's okay, man. It happens to the best of us.
[07:01] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: You should've seen me a few weeks ago
[07:01] <phlak_user> ryannathans: you could boot a laptop with a usb/livecd and compile
[07:02] <phlak_user> Alxjrvs: did you press ctl+d ?
[07:02] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: I've been using linux for more than a decade. I installed the newest Fedora on my laptop and I was like "uh oh god what is this." and had no idea what to do with gnome 3.
[07:02] <ryannathans> phlak_user: yeah, i have a single core atom @ 1.6ghz
[07:02] <ryannathans> going to go a long way...
[07:03] <Ben64> you have a raid card with an atom?
[07:03] <phlak_user> ryannathans: i have one like that too ; just compile the module
[07:03] <ohzie> ryannathans: Hey that sounds like my torrent server. EEEpc with ubuntu server on it. :3
[07:03] <ryannathans> ohzie: hehe
[07:03] <ryannathans> ohzie: that's what i'm on
[07:03] <ryannathans> phlak_user: module is compiled and in every damn build since 7
[07:03] <ryannathans> phlak_user:  i need it in the kernel
[07:03] <ohzie> Ben64: A lot of people like ulv CPUs for servers nowadays. =P They don't have the brunt, but they can do everything a good server could do a few years ago. =P
[07:03] <Companion> ROAR!
[07:04] <Alxjrvs> Ohzie: Gnome three is resonsible for my escapade, too
[07:04] <Alxjrvs> I actually really like it
[07:04] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Yeah it makes me feel weird and I hate it. I'm gonna have to get used to it though.
[07:04] <Northwoods> how do i extract a zip file into /usr/share/php , it doesn't allow me through archive manager
[07:04] <Ben64> ohzie: well yeah, but i've never seen an eeepc that would take a raid card
[07:04] <ryannathans> chown/chmod
[07:04] <ohzie> Northwoods: "sudo unzip filename" in the terminal
[07:04] <ryannathans> Northwoods:
[07:04] <Companion> Ben64, why do you want to extract it there?
[07:04] <TehDGM> dont chown that folder
[07:04] <TehDGM> sudo it
[07:04] <Ben64> Companion: wrong guy
[07:05] <ohzie> Northwoods: What TehDGM said, please don't chown that folder. Lol./
[07:05] <Northwoods> ryannathans: Why sudo and not CHOWN ?
[07:05] <Companion> Ben64, guy?
[07:05] <Ben64> i'm not the one unzipping
[07:05] <ryannathans> Northwoods: eh?
[07:05] <upsetchildren> #ubuntu-offtopic is ran by a bunch of babies
[07:05] <Northwoods> thanks people
[07:05] <ohzie> Ben64: They make Atoms for desktop computers too. I just use an EEEpc because I like to be able to put my server in my backpack. =D
[07:05] <ryannathans> i have nfi what's going on anymore
[07:05] <TehDGM> because you shouldnt mess with the ownership of that system folder.. theres no need. It can also comprimize security
[07:05] <Companion> Ben64, you know extracting in such place can cause lots of troubles?
[07:05] <phlak_user> ryannathans: which is why you need to include it in the kernel (monolithic) as against it being a loadable module
[07:06] <Ben64> Companion: again, its not me unzipping
[07:06] <Companion> Ben64, so your intending to destroy some one else's system?
[07:06] <Alxjrvs> ohzie I'm in my mid twenties, been using linux for... gosh, 10 years now. I've always been a design person, and I have to say that this interface is ~20 pounds sexier than anything i've seen on linux.
[07:06] <Ben64> Companion: dude its not me!
[07:06] <Companion> Ben64, then why do you ask it?
[07:06] <Ben64> I DID NOT ASK IT
[07:06] <Companion> Ben64, oops xD
[07:06] <Ben64> finally
[07:06] <Northwoods> what is difference between gksudo and sudo ?
[07:07] <Companion> Ben64, srry I just woke up
[07:07] <trench> Northwoods: gk
[07:07] <MonkeyDust> Northwoods: gk is for graphical appliclations
[07:07] <Ben64> Northwoods: gksudo makes gui stuff work better
[07:07] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Well it's a good thing some people like it. :-)
[07:07] <TehDGM> gksudo has a gui thing
[07:07] <Northwoods> ok
[07:07] <Companion> Northwoods, why your extracting some thing there? :o
[07:07] <Alxjrvs> Here's a dumb question: what command logs me out of root? I know I can just reset the window, but I am curious.
[07:07] <Lasers> Northwoods: Unzip in ~/Temp ; Move the contents to your desirable directory in the forbidden forest outside of your home directory.
[07:07] <TehDGM> no all it does is show an input box in a gui rather then a commandline
[07:07] <Northwoods> Companion: yes
[07:07] <TehDGM> it doesnt make stuff work better really :P
[07:07] <phlak_user> Alxjrvs: ctl+d
[07:07] <Ben64> Alxjrvs: CTRL+D or "exit"
[07:07] <Companion> Northwoods, I asked why... its dangerous
[07:07] <popey> Alxjrvs: logout :D
[07:07] <trench> Alxjrvs: ctrl+d
[07:07] <Alxjrvs> Thanks guys
[07:07] <Northwoods> what
[07:08] <Companion> Northwoods, extracting stuff into your system can cause orphan packages & Conflicts
[07:08] <Northwoods> Companion: what should i do then ?
[07:08] <ohzie> Northwoods: the sudo line
[07:08] <Companion> Northwoods, what your trying to do then/
[07:08] <Northwoods> extract somewhere esle and move ?
[07:08] <trench> LindaLoveLace: irc as root is not a smart idea
[07:08] <Alxjrvs> ohzie: Also, something I discovered that I love: Now, my workstations are relegated to one monitor. So I can keep my dual monitor consistent with a single activity and move around on the other monitor. Fantastic for programming with multiple resources to look at.
[07:08] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Why is GRUB Prefered over LiLo in Ubuntu?
[07:09] <Northwoods> i have to extract a zend library
[07:09] <ohzie> MAREK_BENC_NetB: because Lilo is ancient
[07:09] <Northwoods> so i'm thinking of extracting it in /usr/share/php
[07:09] <trench> MAREK_BENC_NetB: grub got more stuff than lilo
[07:09] <MonkeyDust> MAREK_BENC_NetB: "why" is philosophical question
[07:09] <Companion> Northwoods, your trying to run encrypted web pages?
[07:09] <phlak_user> Northwoods: what do the instructions say?
[07:09] <Northwoods> Companion: no
[07:09] <TehDGM> grub is much more powerful then lilo is
[07:09] <Northwoods> instructions say nothing ?
[07:09] <Companion> Northwoods, or zend framework* srry xD
[07:09] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> But you can put lilo on anything
[07:09] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Yeah, I use multiple computers at work...but I use a windows laptop and a mac at work. ( ,_,)
[07:10] <phlak_user> Northwoods: where did you get that library from (or did you make it yourself?)
[07:10] <Northwoods> ok i can extract zend library into /home/northwoods/libraries/
[07:10] <Companion> Northwoods, do: sudo apt-get install zend-framework
[07:10] <Alxjrvs> Ohzie: Yeesh.
[07:10] <TehDGM> you can also put grub on "everything"
[07:10] <Northwoods> phlak_user: zend library
[07:10] <Companion> Northwoods, do: sudo apt-get install zend-framework
[07:11] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: I was only allowed to use windows until recently. Linux was just a server thing and a my-laptop thing...but we're switching to corporate gmail for everything, so it doesn't matter what I use. So I have a mac on my desk. It's...really pretty. :3
[07:11] <Northwoods> Companion: it will start downloading again , i have the archive of zend framework
[07:11] <Northwoods> i just need to extract it and update the path in php.ini ,  include_path settings
[07:11] <Companion> Northwoods, its better to instal trough APT :)
[07:11] <Northwoods> and i'm ready to go
[07:11] <Northwoods> ok let me ty
[07:11] <Northwoods> try
[07:11] <Northwoods> thanks for help
[07:11] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: irssi really sucks on a mac's terminal though. The default mac terminal is actually a lot less capable than I'm use to gnome-terminal being. Significantly. :| I downloaded terminator for mac, but I haven't had much chance to play with it yet.
[07:12] <Companion> Northwoods, np its better safe then sorry
[07:13] <`Abhijit> I've got a 3g modem (USB dongle) that loads up a virtual CD-ROM on start. Any ideas on how I can automatically 'eject' it on startup? (The volume isn't mounted on start though.. if it helps) Thanks.
[07:14] <TehDGM> disable booting from usb in your bios
[07:15] <TehDGM> or do you mean that it mounts it?
[07:15] <`Abhijit> TehDGM, it is unmounted but not ejected. The icon shows up on desktop
[07:16] <MonkeyDust> ohzie: i use irssi in linux, works fine
[07:16] <wooter> `Abhijit, there is eject command
[07:16] <wooter> add the command to startup script
[07:17] <wooter> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/eject.1.html
[07:17] <`Abhijit> wooter, thanks.. i'll try that
[07:20] <deal> sad
[07:20] <Companion> Northwoods, did it work?
[07:21] <ohzie> MonkeyDust: I was referring to using it over a mac terminal
[07:22] <ohzie> MonkeyDust: irssi in linux is pretty much all I ever use ever for irc. It's fantastic. Everything I could ever want or need in any irc-related situation.
[07:22] <Northwoods> Companion: I used the zend framework extracted library and extracted it to /home/northwoods/zendframework and now going to update the php.ini for include_path to this folder
[07:23] <Companion> Northwoods, wont work :)
[07:25] <Northwoods> :) let me try it and see
[07:26] <PunkUnity> hey
[07:27] <PunkUnity> quick question
[07:27] <PunkUnity> i am trying to use chromium
[07:28] <PunkUnity> everytime i start it
[07:28] <PunkUnity> it asks me to set it as default browser, which i do
[07:28] <PunkUnity> and everytime it keeps asking
[07:28] <PunkUnity> fix?
[07:28] <zamba> is it possible to set a global proxy server?
[07:28] <zamba> in ubuntu?
[07:29] <wooter> i believe so zamba
[07:29] <zamba> wooter: where is that set?
[07:29] <wooter> ive had apt-get run thru proxy before
[07:29] <zamba> wooter: yeah, i know about that.. but when i now try to use mplayer to stream something, a proxy is used
[07:29] <zamba> for the strangest reason
[07:29] <zamba> i've never experienced that before
[07:29] <Ben64> you probably set a proxy
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: well, where?
[07:30] <Ben64> do you have chrome
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: yes
[07:30] <Ben64> did you set a proxy in there
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: i tried the proxy switchy! extension there
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: so yeah
[07:30] <Ben64> theres your problem :)
[07:30] <PunkUnity> so no one has any ideas onn my problen
[07:30] <PunkUnity> ?
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: but how does mplayer use that proxy? that makes no sense?
[07:30] <Ben64> chrome likes to set proxy system wide
[07:31] <zamba> Ben64: yeah, but why and how does mplayer use that?
[07:31] <PunkUnity> ben64 i have no idea what that means
[07:31] <zamba> Ben64: it has to be set in some file that mplayer reads?
[07:31] <wooter> http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_use_mplayer_with_a_proxy_server
[07:31] <zamba> wooter: did you read what i actually asked?
[07:31] <PunkUnity> i just want to make chromium the default browser and stop it form asking me
[07:31] <zamba> wooter: i don't want mplayer to use a proxy, i DON'T want it to be using the one it's using
[07:33] <jasef> Chrome doesn't set its own proxy, it respects the system proxy instead - and so its proxy settings button points to the system proxy
[07:35] <vlt> Hello. How can I find out who created, changed or deleted which file and when?
[07:35] <ryannathans> I can't compile kernel on a liveusb.. one of the packages can't install
[07:37] <ryannathans> http://pastebin.com/E6ENb12T
[07:38] <phlak_user> ryannathans: methinks you can safely ignore those two errors
[07:40] <ryannathans> what about http://pastebin.com/srtMMgH4
[07:41] <wrenny> i installed Ubuntu from a USB stick, did the whole setup, restarted to PC but it just loads Windows, no option seen to boot into Ubuntu, what did I miss?
[07:41] <ryannathans> wrenny: bootloader
[07:41] <zaapiel> yeah
[07:42] <wrenny> I said nothing about that in direction on the Ubuntu web site
[07:42] <wrenny> it
[07:42] <Northwoods> Companion: you are right
[07:42] <Northwoods> it didn't work
[07:42] <Northwoods> i'll have to use APT
[07:42] <ryannathans> phlak_user: http://pastebin.com/srtMMgH4
[07:43] <newb> how can i watch veoh on ubuntu
[07:43] <newb> how can i watch veoh on ubuntu?
[07:43] <wrenny> says nothing about a needing a bootloader on this url: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[07:44] <ryannathans> wrenny: you installed bootloader on wrong disc when installing
[07:44] <wrenny> what?
[07:45] <usr13> wrenny: every OS needs a boot loader, that is a given
[07:45] <wrenny> i used the tool to create the Ubuntu install from a usb device
[07:45] <gechmog> So, if I wanted to run a quick stress test on a new internatl 2TB hard drive, what command would I use with Bonnie++?
[07:45] <wrenny> and foloowed the directions to the letter on that url
[07:45] <usr13> !grub | wrenny
[07:45] <wrenny> it just says, reboot and enjoy Ubuntu?
[07:46] <MonkeyDust> gechmog: try ./bonnie++ -u root
[07:46] <wrenny> yea well it would have been nice for the main website of Ubuntu to even mention that
[07:46] <Mavrik> hi
[07:47] <ryannathans> wrenny: it installs while installing ubuntu
[07:47] <wrenny> what does
[07:47] <honey> hey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?
[07:47] <ryannathans> you have failed and put it on wrong partition or drive, or theres an error
[07:47] <ryannathans> grub -.-
[07:47] <wrenny> no error
[07:47] <Mavrik> I'm experiencing flickering on desktop when having effects enabled on 2500K sandy bridge GPU, is there any parameter/PPA with updated drivers that could fix that?
[07:47] <ryannathans> wrenny: it's not all verbose
[07:47] <wrenny> like I said I follow the direction on that url to the letter
[07:47] <The_BROS> Is Unity easier in use than Gnome?
[07:48] <Qnnari> Hey, is there a terminal command i can use to disable restricted nvidia drivers? Installed them and after reboot I'm getting fsck boot...
[07:48] <usr13> wrenny: The instructions could have been a lot longer and could have included a lot more details, (one could write a pretty nice size book on how to install Linux).
[07:48] <wrenny> i chose ot install beside current windows OS
[07:48] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS: depends on what you like
[07:48] <ryannathans> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[07:48] <Kalidarn> hmm, i just updated the firmware on my SSD (and reinstalled windows) so i decided to change back my controller to AHCI
[07:48] <Ben64> Qnnari: fsck isn't bad
[07:48] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[07:48] <Kalidarn> i've noticed that grub wont boot anything while in AHCI and the bootsplash for grub doesn't appear in AHCI mode
[07:48] <Qnnari> its not? scared the shit out of me...
[07:48] <wrenny> I allocated space on C: for it
[07:48] <Kalidarn> is there something i have to do to get grub to work with AHCI?
[07:48] <newb> how can i watch veoh on ubuntu?
[07:48] <honey> hey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?
[07:49] <Ben64> Qnnari: it happens every n boots
[07:49] <i2c> Hi folks I have 3 computers here all running ubuntu. I would like to save bandwidth by having only one computer downloading packages how can I do it?
[07:49] <wrenny> an I see the partitions in Windows disk manager
[07:49] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Do you have more than one internal hard drive?
[07:49] <wrenny> yes several
[07:49] <Jordan_U> wrenny: How many?
[07:49] <wrenny> i created a separate partition on my main drive
[07:49] <wrenny> it
[07:49] <gechmog> MonkeyDust: I don't want to run the command under root, I just really want to do a thorough test.
[07:49] <wrenny> i see it
[07:49] <wrenny> 50 GB
[07:50] <Jordan_U> wrenny: How many?
[07:50] <The_BROS> MonkeyDust: I mean should I install gnome 3 in 11.10 release or better to become accustomed to Unity?
[07:50] <MonkeyDust> gechmog: try your username instead of root
[07:50] <Qnnari> Ben64: Maybe I explained myself badly, what I'm getting is a black screen and ubuntu itself wont boot up
[07:50] <wrenny> 4
[07:50] <th_> i2c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[07:50] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS: the same: depends on what you like more - i don't like unity so i don't use it
[07:50] <Ben64> Qnnari: what video card
[07:50] <i2c> thanks th_:)
[07:51] <th_> The_BROS: try them out and decide yourself.. i personally hate gnome-shell, at least for it not working correctly with ati cards =P
[07:51] <ryannathans> What do? http://pastebin.com/3fSeqQ7p
[07:51] <Qnnari> Ben64: Nvidia geforce gt 540m
[07:51] <th_> ryannathans: apt-get update
[07:51] <th_> :)
[07:51] <The_BROS> th_: my ATI works good with Gnome
[07:51] <Ben64> !nomodeset | Qnnari
[07:51] <wrenny> so are you saying the usb install installs grub by default or what
[07:51] <ryannathans> th_: I just did that -.-
[07:52] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Try changing the boot order so that a different drive is first (or if your BIOS has a one time boot menu option that would probably be easier/faster). Try with each drive (whether you think it makes sense for that drive to boot Ubuntu or not) until one works. If none work then come back and use my nick (Jordan_U) in your comment so I see it.
[07:52] <Ben64> Qnnari: try that before trying to remove nvidia drivers
[07:52] <th_> The_BROS: gnome3 surely does not work with proprietary ati cards
[07:52] <th_> *driver
[07:52] <Qnnari> Ben64: Thanks!
[07:52] <wrenny> boot order where
[07:52] <honey> please help me?
[07:52] <wrenny> nothing loads
[07:52] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Grub is always installed by default. It just wasn't installed to the drive that your BIOS is currently configured to boot from.
[07:52] <th_> with 11.9 it more or less starts (oneirich has 11.8 drivers), but can't launch any opengl app in it
[07:52] <The_BROS> th_: mmm... its pity
[07:52] <MonkeyDust> !helpme| honey
[07:53] <wrenny> my boot order is usb/CD/HDD
[07:53] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Your BIOS doesn't give you an option for which of your 4 internal hard drives it boots from?
[07:53] <The_BROS> Is this a good idea to install 11.10 release tomorrow or is better to wait, until it becomes stable?
[07:54] <wrenny> yes
[07:54] <th_> no
[07:54] <th_> :P
[07:54] <wrenny> It set to the main drive with Windows on it
[07:54] <gechmog> MonkeyDust: What does ./ mean?
[07:54] <Ben64> The_BROS: if you want stable, LTS is your best bet
[07:54] <gechmog> Doesn't that mean just "current directory"
[07:54] <th_> The_BROS: i'd wait few weeks tbh, there's bunch of critical bugs still open that aren't fixed
[07:54] <wrenny> and I can see the new partitions Ubuntu created on the SAME drive
[07:54] <OY1R> lts all the way
[07:54] <Companion> where is north?
[07:54] <MonkeyDust> gechmog: it means current directory
[07:55] <Lasers> The_BROS: Your mileage may vary. We all don't have same hardware. You should do a test run first.
[07:55] <The_BROS> Ben64: you mean 10.04?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Try changing the boot order so that a different drive is first (or if your BIOS has a one time boot menu option that would probably be easier/faster). Try with each drive (whether you think it makes sense for that drive to boot Ubuntu or not) until one works. If none work then come back and use my nick (Jordan_U) in your comment so I see it. Please trust me on this and just try it.
[07:55] <xpurple> I setup spamassasin and setup emails<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for people bounch mail to for training. Then a cron job for sa-learn.  This should work, right?
[07:55] <th_> Ben64: 10.04 doesn't even install on quite big range of new hardware
[07:55] <Ben64> The_BROS: that is the current one, yes
[07:55] <th_> like mine
[07:55] <Ben64> th_: like what
[07:56] <ryannathans> What do i do? http://pastebin.com/SUnFQpYB
[07:56] <wrenny> so it may have installed grub on another drive?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Correct.
[07:56] <th_> simply because parted has segfault bug which concerns huge amount of new hard disks, and this is fixe only in 11.04 and above, and haven't been backported to 10.04.3 iso's
[07:56] <OY1R> q: how would i set up ubuntu for kids, thinking safe web browsing ?
[07:57] <th_> and it's not just partitioning, you can't proceed with installer as parted segfaults right from reading the disk
[07:57] <usr13> OY1R: You could use a filter on the browser.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> OY1R: #edubuntu might have people more familiar with that type of thing.
[07:57] <th_> for example all spinpoints and long range of ssd's make parted to segfault
[07:57] <wrenny> i see no new partition on any drive except my 1st drive
[07:57] <OY1R> thanks
[07:57] <Edogaa> Oh
[07:57] <Kalidarn> is there anything specific i have to do to make AHCI work with grub?
[07:57] <Companion> xpurple, I admire you for owning xxx.com
[07:57] <Edogaa> October 13th!
[07:57] <xpurple> Companion: Hahahaha, example :)
[07:57] <xpurple> Companion: Anyway, that should work, right?
[07:57] <Edogaa> I thought it was OCTOBER 12TH
[07:57] <Lasers> wrenny: I find it easier to shut down. Unplug all Internal HDD that you're not going to install OS on. (Keeping OS and Personal Consumption separate). When it comes to bootloader, select manually. Make sure you remember which /dev/sda (or /dev/sdb) -- You'll see which is your primary HDD when you're doing partition stuffs.
[07:58] <Companion> xpurple, lemme read
[07:58] <Companion> xpurple, there is an easyer method
[07:58] <xpurple> Companion: Oh?
[07:58] <Companion> xpurple, when installing Virtualmin (Webmin Fork) you can let it auto configure Spam Assassin
[07:58] <vlt> i2c: I don't know the "right way" to tell the two other linux PCs to use the first one for updates ... but I did something like that by syncing the /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory from one to the other machines after having installed updates.
[07:58] <wrenny> i saw nothing in the install Of Ubuntu that gave any option for a bootloaded
[07:58] <camil_> hi. does any of you know some irc channel for support in c programming?
[07:59] <usr13> OY1R: I use FoxFilter  for the one I built for kids.  There are others.  See:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/es?q=parental+control&cat=all
[07:59] <wrenny> or even a drive
[07:59] <Companion> xpurple, and its easyer to manage website/e-mails etc
[07:59] <vlt> i2c: So when you run update on the other machines the needed packages are already there and don't need to be downloaded agin.
[07:59] <vlt> *again
[07:59] <Kalidarn> is there anything specific i have to do to make AHCI work with grub?
[07:59] <DJones> camil_: I think the channel is ##C
[07:59] <Jordan_U> wrenny: The portion of grub in question is in the boot sector and post-mbr gap, not in any partition. Please follow my instructions and just trust me. I won't be here much longer but I'd like to help you.
[08:00] <sanduz2> why is oneric not being advertised anywhere if its going to release tomorrow?
[08:00] <OY1R> usr13, thanks
[08:00] <vlt> sanduz2: Why should it?
[08:00] <usr13> wrenny: The bootloader does not occupy a new partition.
[08:00] <xpurple> Companion: Hmm, I'd prefer nothing they have to login to as my users are not very tech savy.
[08:00] <sanduz2> vlt, they usually have a count down or something on the front page at least
[08:00] <wrenny> ok
[08:00] <usr13> wrenny: do as Jordan_U suggested.
[08:00] <wrenny> brb
[08:00] <camil_> DJones - "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[08:00] <Companion> xpurple, they wont have to login, you can set it up & you can do the work for them
[08:00] <Jordan_U> !register | camil_
[08:01] <DJones> camil_: You'll need to register your nick with freenode and identify
[08:01] <camil_> 10x!
[08:01] <sanduz2> so at what time is ubuntu 11.10 releasing?
[08:01] <i2c> vlt: thanks I'll give it ago
[08:01] <Companion> xpurple, you can also set it up that way that it goes trough > POP3 > Spam Assassin > Forward
[08:01] <_ramo> hi
[08:02] <xpurple> Companion: I currently have them pop mail so the mboxes are empty when I check them except at night when the shop is closed.
[08:02] <Lasers> sanduz2: There are no official release time.
[08:02] <_ramo> how do i install a .bin file in ubuntu 10.04? i've tried with sudo thefile.bin but i jost got a "command not found"
[08:02] <Companion> xpurple, ah that bycicle
[08:02] <usr13> _ramo: You run it.
[08:02] <Jordan_U> _ramo: What are you actually trying to install?
[08:03] <usr13> _ramo: You more-than-likely will need to enable executable bit on it first. What is it?
[08:03] <Ibis> Hey, will there by any chance be a Windows Ubuntu Installer for 11.10 by any chance? When it does come out?
[08:03] <xpurple> Companion: Yes, so long as what I have works I'm happy.  Easy enough to train 20 or so people to bounce messages.
[08:03] <Ibis> I want to get a friend into Ubuntu.
[08:03] <_ramo> usr13: Jordan_U it's http://bitnami.org/stack/redmine#nativeInstaller the native installer for linux
[08:03] <_ramo> i did a chmod a+x on the file before
[08:03] <_ramo> but still the same effect
[08:04] <Companion> xpurple, I made it too easy for the people at my work, now they fired me cause I am no longer needed :')
[08:04] <phlak_user> !info redmine > _ramo
[08:04] <usr13> Ibis: 11.04 is new enough.
[08:04] <MonkeyDust> Ibis: beter learn by using the live cd
[08:04] <TehDGM> Ibis: wubi?
[08:04] <xpurple> Companion: hahahaha
[08:04] <_ramo> phlak_user: this version is too old
[08:04] <Ibis> TehDGM: Yes.
[08:04] <cypha> Jordan_U, Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu?
[08:04] <Ibis> MonkeyDust: It's not for me.
[08:05] <Companion> xpurple, its real simple I setup Virtualmin + Usermin made a skin/theme that is idiot proof and it works :)
[08:05] <Ibis> MonkeyDust: I got the real deal installed, I want to show a new friend linux.
[08:05] <xpurple> Companion: I will do some reading on that.
[08:05] <TehDGM> get him a cdrom then :P
[08:05] <xpurple> Companion: Thank you!
[08:05] <Jordan_U> _ramo: BitNami is not supported. Please just use Ubuntu packaged components instead.
[08:05] <TehDGM> you can even order them for free if you dont want/cant burn them
[08:05] <phlak_user> _ramo: ok, did you chmod +x filename and then run it by sudo ./filename
[08:05] <Companion> xpurple, its np, virtualmin also supports Pop3 and such and has a great overview on spamassasin and such
[08:05] <_ramo> Jordan_U: it is a bitnami image on a amazon instance
[08:06] <_ramo> phlak_user: yes i did
[08:06] <phlak_user> _ramo: ./ also?
[08:06] <_ramo> phlak_user: all i got is:  sudo bitnami-subversion-1.6.15-0-linux-installer.bin sudo: bitnami-subversion-1.6.15-0-linux-installer.bin: command not found
[08:06] <Jordan_U> _ramo: BitNami is not supported here.
[08:06] <_ramo> Jordan_U: okay
[08:06]  * xpurple sleeps
[08:06] <_ramo> phlak_user: this works
[08:06] <wrenny> i deleted all new partitions created and I'd like to start over. How can I delete the hiding grub install too?
[08:07] <phlak_user> _ramo: of course it does :)
[08:07] <_ramo> ;)
[08:07] <TehDGM> when you reinstall it will overwrite your grub
[08:07] <phlak_user> wrenny: whats that?
[08:07] <usr13> wrenny: Why didn't you do as Jordan_U  suggested?
[08:08] <Lasers> wrenny: It resides on the first 512kb, really tiny. Do what Jordan_U suggested. Stop pretending.
[08:08] <usr13> wrenny: You will find the information you need here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2
[08:08] <wrenny> I dont want to change my boot order ,  Why isnt the install smart enough just to ask where I want it installed?
[08:08] <usr13> wrenny: You don'
[08:09] <Jordan_U> wrenny: If you use the manual partitioning option then you will be asked where to install grub. You can also install grub wherever you want manually after install (from the liveCD).
[08:10] <Lasers> wrenny: It's a known (and confirmed) bug with debian-installer.
[08:10] <usr13> wrenny: You don't have to change the boot order perminately.  Jordan_U just suggested doing it temporarily so that you can boot into Ubuntu and install the boot loader on the correct drive.
[08:10] <cypha> Jordan_U, any reason you've been ignoring me?
[08:10] <wrenny> usr13 yea i never even saw a boot menu at all after installing Ubuntu
[08:11] <Jordan_U> cypha: I haven't been. I'm just juggling a lot of things at the moment. "Try Ubuntu"
[08:11] <wrenny> i do see in Windows that my D:drive is drive 0 but windows is on 1
[08:11] <usr13> wrenny: You need to get Ubuntu bootet back up so that you can repair the boot loader, (so that you can install it on the correct drive).
[08:12] <cypha> Jordan_U, k, well, ctrl and caps lock are normal in there
[08:12] <cypha> I also installed debian
[08:12] <cypha> normal in there as well
[08:12] <wrenny> If I try to now install Ubuntu fresh again can I do it correctly the 1st time now?
[08:12] <wrenny> and what must a do differnt
[08:12] <usr13> wrenny: You will find the information you need here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2
[08:13] <Lasers> wrenny: You may have to install Ubuntu to USB again because it is possible that the USB have been set up with bootloader from grub-install.
[08:13] <bubblegum> I have a question and I hope I can word it correctly...
[08:13] <almoxarife> wrenny: is another os on the disk?
[08:13] <bubblegum> can only a child process of a parent process be in a "defunct" state or can a parent process be like that as well?
[08:13] <viki> how to update gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.04
[08:13] <wrenny> win7
[08:13] <wrenny> on C:
[08:13] <Lasers> !gnome3 | viki
[08:14] <Jordan_U> Lasers: Ubuntu's installer is smart enough not to install grub to external drives (unless of course you're installing the rest of Ubuntu to said external drive).
[08:14] <wrenny> I did the util last night and put the live CD on a usb thumb drive
[08:14] <almoxarife> wrenny: when you power up what comes up first, grub or MBR?
[08:14] <wrenny> installed from that exactly by the web site instructions
[08:15] <usr13> wrenny: You can boot the LiveCD or USB thumb drive and repair as needed.
[08:15] <wrenny> noothing
[08:15] <wrenny> it just loads windows
[08:15] <wrenny> no menu
[08:15] <viki> Lasers thanks for suggestion
[08:15] <HackNewton> hello
[08:15] <Jordan_U> wrenny: If you follow my instructions Ubuntu will boot. I could have helped you get grub onto whatever drive you wanted but I need to leave now. Good luck.
[08:15] <Lasers> Jordan_U: Bugs are bugs. We don't know if he/she use GUI installer or text-based installer. I speak from experiences with text-based installer that it's best to select it manually because some hardwares treats the usb as /dev/sda (as the first device).
[08:16] <wrenny> I will install again
[08:16] <HackNewton> does anyone know how to update python to 3.x
[08:16] <almoxarife> wrenny: have you had a good install of ubuntu already?
[08:16] <wrenny> hopelully I can find an option of what drive its gonna put the install onto
[08:16] <Lasers> viki: If you really want to try Gnome3, get it from Fedora.
[08:16] <wrenny> i saw nothing
[08:17] <Lasers> viki: Run it in Virtualbox at least!
[08:17] <usr13> almoxarife: He doesn't know,  he has been unable to boot it.
[08:17] <wrenny> I installed it fine, all looked good, then after a rebbot it just loaded windows and I saw no menu option to load Ubuntu
[08:17] <honey> hey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> wrenny: If you do decide to select where to install grub manually do *not* select a partition. Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the mbr (e.g. /dev/sda and *not* /dev/sda1).
[08:17] <PsyCl0ne> Could someone help me with my Lubuntu install and why it doesnt output any sound?
[08:17] <Lasers> wrenny: Stupid question. Try plugging in the USB and reboot your machine. You could see the GRUB if you boot up the USB again.
[08:17] <viki> laser: then which gui is better for  ubuntu 11.04
[08:18] <HackNewton> honey, you mean ubuntu 10.04>
[08:18] <almoxarife> wrenny: you want to be careful, don't lose win7 too
[08:18] <wrenny> maybe
[08:18] <wrenny> if I leave the usb stick in
[08:18] <usr13> honey: Share files with what?  Another Linux PC?  Another MS Windows PC?
[08:18] <wrenny> yea
[08:18] <honey> HackNewton: yes
[08:19] <wrenny> brb
[08:19] <Lasers> viki: There are !de (desktop environment). What I use -- I'm comfortable with.... may not be the same thing you're comfortable with. There are Gnome, KDE, LXDE, awesome, XFCE, etc.
[08:19] <usr13> honey: You are wanting to share files with another Windows PC on your LAN?  Is that what you want to do?
[08:19] <almoxarife> honey: in nautilus right click on the folder and then click on sharing
[08:19] <honey> usr13:another Ms windows Pc
[08:19] <usr13> !samba | honey
[08:20] <almoxarife> usr13: nautilus is a much simpler method
[08:20] <viki> laser: thanks
[08:20] <Lasers> viki: Gnome3 uses Gnome3. Ubuntu use Unity.
[08:20] <usr13> almoxarife: Tell honey
[08:20] <Lasers> !unity | viki
[08:20] <almoxarife> usr13: did
[08:21] <honey> usr13:i would like to share to window machine in my ubuntu machine alrady i install ssh
[08:22] <usr13> almoxarife: Very good. Now he knows, there are two methods.  (Thanks for telling me, I've not used Nautilus method.)
[08:22] <cypha> Jordan_U, so what's the next step?
[08:22] <almoxarife> honey: the machines are on a local network?
[08:22] <Jordan_U> cypha: I don't know.
[08:23] <honey> almoxarife:it is not on local network
[08:23] <cypha> Jordan_U, did I tell you that I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d
[08:23] <jenk> Hi ! I have Ubuntu 11.04 on an HP Mini 110 but it freezes at bootup. Any help ? I was told to blacklist the b43 driver from the boot menu. How do I( do that ?
[08:23] <usr13> honey: almoxarife wants to know if they are both connected to the same router or switch.  So they are not?  Well, maybe you need to describe your LAN.
[08:24] <cypha> I can't tell where it's reading the info from though
[08:25] <almoxarife> honey: what type of network setup is it?
[08:25] <honey> almoxarife:?
[08:26] <usr13> honey: He needs to know how these two computers are connected to the network.  Can you describe your network?
[08:26] <almoxarife> honey: describe the network configuration you have that needs the machines talking to each other
[08:27] <despe70> what is the difference between "ubuntu", and "ubuntu server" ? and how can I find out which of the two I'm running ?
[08:27] <honey> they are in different routers
[08:27] <honey> almoxarife:they are in different routers
[08:27] <usr13> honey: That will be a problem.
[08:27] <MonkeyDust> despe70: server is partitioned differently and it has no GUI
[08:27] <hje841> Using waf to build a NS-3 simulation in Natty 64-bit I get this error: http://pastebin.com/VhGyuqMz any suggestions?
[08:27] <jenk> Hi ! How do I disable the b43 module from being loaded at startup in the Grub menu ?
[08:27] <almoxarife> honey: does one router provide dhcp for the rest of the routers?
[08:28] <usr13> honey: Do you have any type of tunneling set up?  Can they ssh or ping each other?
[08:28] <MonkeyDust> despe70: and other packages are installed by default
[08:28] <usr13> honey: Tell us the IP addresses of the two machines.
[08:28] <usr13> the inside IP addresses of each.
[08:28] <honey> ok waite aminute
[08:28] <despe70> MonkeyDust: k, can I find out which one I'm running ? I didn't install it myself and it's still hardy ... considering upgrading, but I want to make sure to follow the correct track
[08:29] <MonkeyDust> despe70: type lsb_release -a
[08:29] <almoxarife> usr13: that's a better way of asking
[08:29] <Derpadong> You guys have ops?
[08:29] <usr13> Derpadong: Sure, what do you need?
[08:29] <Derpadong> cause id say kickban evva
[08:29] <Derpadong> evva is a bot
[08:29] <despe70> MonkeyDust: that says "distributor id: ubuntu, description ubuntu 8.04"
[08:30] <despe70> monkeydust: so it's the "regular" ubuntu ?
[08:30] <th_> that's old LTS release
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> despe70: seems so, 8.04 is an LTS
[08:30] <usr13> Derpadong: We'll let them know.
[08:30] <Derpadong> Okay
[08:30] <th_> you can upgrade directly to 10.04, which is next (and current) LTS
[08:30] <th_> i'd recommend skipping non-LTS releases =P
[08:31] <Derpadong> I just came in and evva messaged me with a link and said sex
[08:31] <honey> usr13:for the ubuntu=<IP_ADDRESS> and for windows=<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:31] <Derpadong> Lol
[08:31] <Derpadong> I love this dualboot for the cr48
[08:31] <despe70> k thx
[08:32] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[08:32] <Derpadong> So is there a way to change the look the notify-osd?
[08:33] <jenk> Hi ! How do I disable the b43 module from being loaded at startup in the Grub menu ?
[08:34] <almoxarife> honey: can those two machines see each other?
[08:34] <honey> almoxarife:no
[08:36] <almoxarife> honey: are the two routers sharing the same router ahead of them?
[08:37] <jenk> Hey !! How can I prevent the b43 module from being loaded at startup ? Which part of the Grub menu do I edit ?
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> jenk: b43** is broadcom, right? it is not being loaded in the grub, imho
[08:38] <hje841> How do I submit a bug in Natty?
[08:38] <atomx> can I capture a stream like this     rtsp://video.cpm.jussieu.fr/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1.smil     into a video file  ?
[08:38] <atomx> (in ubuntu)
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> !bug| hje841
[08:39] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d , but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[08:39] <jenk> MonkeyDust, Yes, it's the driver for Broadcom. Following this post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467734 I found that I have to disable it from being loaded, from the Grub menu.
[08:40] <almoxarife> honey: take a look at https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/ ubuntu support as well as windows
[08:42] <KamZou> Hi, i've a Bind9 with a (new) MySQL Backend, and i'm wondering why when i do this command : "host nnnnn.whatever.mydomain.lan"  i get multiple entries, do you know why ?
[08:42] <KamZou> drgdrgd.php5.loc has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <KamZou> Host drgdrgd.php5.loc not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[08:42] <KamZou> Host drgdrgd.php5.loc not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[08:42] <jenk> MonkeyDust, Any inputs ?
[08:42] <FloodBot1> KamZou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <despe70> I'm trying to upgrade my webserver from 8.04 to 10.04.  I'm following the LucidUpgrades info for it (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades). However, when I start do-release-upgrade, this tells me that it's unsafe to do it over SSH.  I only have SSH access to the server - should I just go ahead, or is there a better solution ?
[08:44] <iceroot> despe70: use ssh + screen!
[08:44] <iceroot> despe70: with screen it is safe
[08:44] <despe70> k
[08:44] <MonkeyDust> jenk: i checked it, can't say, kindly repeat your initial question, maybe someone else can help
[08:46] <jenk> Hi !! How do I disable the b43/ssb module from being loaded at startup ?
[08:46] <iceroot> despe70: but i dont know what is happening when screen get updated but its defnitly safer then just using ssh
[08:47] <almoxarife> jenk: is this what you arew looking for >>> from your link>>> I restarted and when presented with the Grub screen, I pressed "e" to edit the startup options, and added "blacklist b43" at the end of the list of options. This allowed the Mini to boot successfully.
[08:47] <feisar_> there is a modules black list
[08:47] <iceroot> !blacklist | jenk
[08:47] <despe70> iceroot: i'm running in screen now and didn't get teh complaint from the do-release-upgrade, so they consider it safer too
[08:47] <feisar_> jenk: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[08:47] <despe70> or the check is unreliable :)
[08:48] <iceroot> despe70: the check cant see that you are using ssh when inside screen
[08:48] <jenk> almoxarife, Exactly ! Only thing, I don't know where to put that line.
[08:48] <feisar_> I'd like my Ubuntu server 11.10 to notify my via email if a reboot is required due to automatic updating. What is the best way of achieving this?
[08:49] <jenk> feisar_, That's not possible as I cannot boot into Ubuntu, neither from the recovery mode. I need to blacklist the b43/ssb module or prevent it from being lo9aded at startup, in order to boot. Thanks, though.
[08:49] <almoxarife> jenk: grub screen? press 'e'?? or that is not an option?
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> feisar_: with ksplice, you do not have to reboot the server after a kernel upgrade - ksplice is now property of oracle
[08:50] <iceroot> feisar_: "debian-goodies"
[08:50] <iceroot> feisar_: there is a script which is telling you that a restart is needed
[08:50] <jenk> almoxarife, I can do that, but where do I add the " blacklist b43 ssb" option ? At the end ? At the beginning ?
[08:50] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: there are still reasons to reboot the system, even with ksplice
[08:50] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: e.g. dbus-update, libc-update
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> ok
[08:51] <almoxarife> jenk: again from your link>> edit the startup options, and added "blacklist b43" at the end of the list of options
[08:52] <almoxarife> jenk: your link says 'b43' you typed 'b43 ssb' there may be an issue there
[08:52] <jenk> almoxarife, At the end ? As in, on a new line ? Or continuing from the last line ? Do I have to precede it with a '-' like "-blacklist b43 ssb" ?
[08:53] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d , but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[08:53] <jenk> almoxarife, I'm trying to blacklist both.
[08:53] <feisar_> MonkeyDust: thanks but it would still be good to know if a reboot is needed
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> feisar_: see iceroot's advice :)
[08:54] <feisar_> does anyone know if it is possible to be notified via emai if a system reboot is needed?
[08:54] <iceroot> feisar_: i already told you
[08:54] <iceroot> feisar_: debian-goodies
[08:55] <zzzz> cpu
[08:55] <almoxarife> jenk: perhaps someone needs to investigate the particulars of grub line editing, specific to their needs, I know I do it alottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[08:56] <feisar_> iceroot: oh great stuff, thanks
[08:56] <jenk> almoxarife, K, thanks, though. Any other ideas ?
[08:57] <almoxarife> jenk: do what I do, read then read then read it again, btw, I suggest blacklisting one at a time, but its your makina
[08:57] <zzzz> test 123
[08:58] <jenk> almoxarife, Alright, as you say. Thanks ! :)
[09:00] <frewo64> hi. who is the master of this channel? i just got junk from a visitor here
[09:00] <almoxarife> evva?
[09:00] <almoxarife> bad bot
[09:00] <Ben64> frewo64: you can report them in #ubuntu-ops
[09:02] <frewo64> Ben64: ok, i do. oh, now the visitor is gone  ^^^: natasha-> hii sex http://livecam.de.vc
[09:02] <Myrtti> please don't repeat the spam messages here
[09:02] <almoxarife> I don't ever get msgs from bots
[09:02] <Myrtti> you might get kickbanned by mistake - instead report them at #ubuntu-ops
[09:02] <Myrtti> thank you
[09:02] <frewo64> ok
[09:05] <somsip> Myrtti: there was another report of this earlier - same bot was reported for sex messages
[09:05] <love> The internal mic on my laptop works great with Ubuntu 11.10 beta2 but is so noisy it is unusable in 11.04 what gives? Can I install what ever is making it work in 11.10 in 11.04?
[09:05] <rww> somsip: It's being dealt with.
[09:05] <somsip> rww: k
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> love: in Terminal, type alsamixer
[09:06] <david_> @ratio eu
[09:08] <love> MonkeyDust,  I have been here many times before, tuning up the mic in alsamixer just turns up the noise, this is a driver noise cancellation issue not a gain issue
[09:09] <wrenny> yea I'm getting partition errors when I try to install Ubuntu says can't create partition or something
[09:09] <wrenny> i think I saw that last night too
[09:10] <wrenny> but it let me continue with the install, but after reboot nothing
[09:10] <c[_]> why wont Banshee play music but the Movie Player will?
[09:11] <c[_]> there is an error saying Broken pipe [EPIPE]
[09:14] <wrenny> but then I go into Windows and I do see partitions created so I dunno
[09:20] <ubuntu_> hi all
[09:21] <ryannathans> trying to build aacraid drivers, dkms, get this, http://pastebin.com/Kut1fYHm
[09:22] <Cheery> due to having a nonstandard windowing environment, I don't have system menu.. what system is responsible to desktop audio effects, and how do I kill/annihilate/decimate it?
[09:22] <Johnny_Giggles> is there a straightforward way of reading an HFS+ volume on 11.04?
[09:22] <rabbi1> how to share a file from ubuntu server (remote) ?
[09:23] <love> I am disappointed that this noise cancellation issue an the internal laptop mic in Ubuntu 11.04 hasn't been patched
[09:25] <love> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353806
[09:25] <airtonix> love: oh ok
[09:25] <TvL2386> hi guys, How can I rename interfaces in 10.04.3? I used to just change 'eth0' to 'mynic' in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, but it is empty?
[09:25] <love> So I have to use windows just to just to use Skype
[09:26] <TvL2386> love, I'm using skype on my laptop (11.04)
[09:26] <airtonix> love: i think you're offtopic here or confusing this with the bug report interface
[09:26] <airtonix> love: or were you actually asking for help on something?
[09:26] <love> TvL2386, what is your audio chipset?
[09:27] <TvL2386> love, Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[09:27] <TvL2386> love, it also says this in lspci: Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[09:28] <TvL2386> love, Sony Vaio laptop
[09:28] <love> airtonix, yes I would like very much to know how to "patch" the ALSA driver so that it correctly noise cancels my internal microphone so people can actually here me.
[09:28] <PhoenixSTF> hello, i am running out of memory during a fsck on a 4*500gb raid 5
[09:29] <PhoenixSTF> anyway to get this around
[09:29] <gry> What can I use to play amr audio files on Ubuntu?
[09:29] <sebsebseb> hi
[09:30] <gry> hi sebsebseb
[09:30] <sebsebseb> gry: hi
[09:31] <despe70> still upgrading 8.04 to 10.04, and following the manual at LucidUpgrades. That mentions: "you may need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default boot kernel to the newly installed 10.04 kernel". I checked that file, and it contains only references to 10.04. That should be fine then ?
[09:31] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, how much ram do you have?
[09:31] <th_> despe70: yup
[09:31] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, 6gb plus 1.2gb of swap
[09:31] <TvL2386> alright, I've just copied a rule from 70-persistent-net.rules from another ubuntu host, changed the mac, rebooted and seems to work
[09:31] <reisio> 1.2, interesting number
[09:31] <iceroot> despe70: its fine and normally its done automaticly
[09:31] <despe70> k
[09:31] <love> TvL2386, cool, doesn't look like my audio device even shows up with lspci
[09:31] <despe70> so I can now just run "reboot" ?
[09:32] <iceroot> despe70: there are no extra steps needed. is the guide an official ubuntu-guide?
[09:32] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, I dont see why it would run out of ram with that much. its a 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[09:32] <TvL2386> love, so I suppose your issue is that you have no sound?
[09:32] <despe70> iceroot: yes, at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[09:32] <_ramo> did anyone of you set up sendmail to send simple mails from a server?
[09:32] <iceroot> despe70: ok
[09:32] <rabbi1> how can i share a file from ubuntu server remotely?
[09:32] <reisio> rabbi1: why
[09:32] <TvL2386> _ramo, I always use ssmtp
[09:32] <PhoenixSTF> comdoc, 64 bit of debian, but they have run out of options so i came here
[09:33] <TvL2386> _ramo, very easy, no hastle
[09:33] <_ramo> TvL2386: yeah, but all i've done was sudo apt-get install sendmail and sudo sendmailconfig
[09:33] <_ramo> no experience with this
[09:33] <meco> Is it possible to amplify the volume in the headphones, using software, beyond what I get from using pavucontrol?
[09:33] <love> It shows my HDMI audio device but not my onboard audio chip seems to be hidden by that that intel HD biso
[09:33] <iceroot> meco: alsamixer
[09:33] <reisio> meco: pavucontrol should be enough...
[09:33] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, are you running fsck at boot?
[09:33] <TvL2386> _ramo, all I know is that setting up sendmail is a bit of a challange.
[09:33] <_ramo> TvL2386: do i miss something?
[09:33] <reisio> meco: you might try mplayer -af volume=10 though
[09:33] <reisio> meco: start with 10, it's a lot
[09:33] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, nop how do i do that'
[09:33] <jivjiv> Hi I got following error. How do I resolve? http://pastebin.com/28s78xUk.
[09:34] <love> No TvL2386, I have always had sound
[09:34] <TvL2386> love, if you're using hdmi out, you have to select it in sound preferences?
[09:34] <meco> Well, I'm watching a YouTube video, so mplayer is out of the question, I suppose.
[09:34] <love> I am not using TvL2386 the HDMI audio out
[09:34] <KamZou> Hi, i've a Bind9 with a (new) MySQL Backend, and i'm wondering why when i do this command : "host nnnnn.whatever.mydomain.lan"  i get multiple entries, do you know why ?
[09:34] <iceroot> jivjiv: you are compiling at your own?
[09:35] <TvL2386> _ramo I have no experience setting up sendmail, so I don't know what you're doing wrong...
[09:35] <jivjiv> iceroot : yes firefox
[09:35] <reisio> meco: well you could download it with downloadhelper and play it, but yeah potentially inconvenient
[09:35] <love> TvL2386, I never use it, it is just there okay
[09:35] <reisio> meco: pavucontrol doesn't produce any change?
[09:35] <iceroot> jivjiv: why not just using the firefox from the repos?
[09:35] <TvL2386> so love, you used to have audio, but the device disappeared
[09:35] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, depending on the options you have in fstab, its normally:  sudo shutdown -rF now
[09:35] <meco> reisio: I already have pavucontrol at maximum
[09:35] <love> TvL2386, I always have audio
[09:35] <reisio> meco: but it did make a difference?
[09:35] <jivjiv> jivjiv : I have modified the code a bit now I have moved code to new machine. But there areissues
[09:35] <iceroot> meco: use alsamixer
[09:36] <iceroot> meco: pulseaudio is "just" working on top of alsa
[09:36] <jivjiv> iceroot : I have modified the code a bit now I have moved code to new machine. But there areissues
[09:36] <meco> reisio: Well, no, since it was already at maximum before the current need arose...
[09:36] <reisio> meco: okay... so if you lower the volume it changes?
[09:36] <love> TvL2386, The issue is that my internal mic is not usable because the noise cancellation is not working in Ubuntu 11.04
[09:36] <iceroot> jivjiv: as it seems you are missing files/packages. install the packages the error is suggesting
[09:36] <meco> alsamixer does it nicely!
[09:37] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, ok thanks, how do i check how many inodes i have on the FS
[09:37] <TvL2386> love, I see....
[09:37] <meco> reisio: Sure, pavucontrol works
[09:37] <love> It works fine in 11.10 beta 2
[09:37] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, Ive never had to know that
[09:37] <jivjiv> iceroot : am very much new to ubuntu. Can you give me the exact apt-get install line to execute. I have been searching ubuntu packages but without success
[09:37] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, np ^ thnaks anyway
[09:37] <Companion> does 11.11 has Gnome 3.2? :O
[09:37] <love> But it is not stable enough for me for day to day work
[09:38] <reisio> so pavucontrol isn't aware of alsa's volume levels? :p
[09:38] <reisio> bit daft
[09:38] <meco> seems so
[09:38] <love> I am searching for a fix but am not coming up with anything
[09:38] <TvL2386> love, maybe this helps (don't think so): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1763536
[09:39] <TvL2386> love http://blog.mageprojects.com/2009/03/24/get-your-microphone-working-in-ubuntu-904-and-skype-x64/
[09:40] <iceroot> jivjiv: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:40] <Johnny_Giggles> I want a quick way of pastebinning code from the command line.  Is there a command that lets me copy a file to clipboard?
[09:41] <gry> Johnny_Giggles: 'pastebinit'
[09:41] <Johnny_Giggles> gry, I don't think ##c likes pastebin.org
[09:41] <iceroot> Johnny_Giggles: echo "foo" | pastebinit
[09:41] <jivjiv> iceroot : thanks.
[09:42] <love> I just can't believe that this issue has been left unchanged in 11.04 for soooooo long!
[09:42] <rabbi1> reisio: need to send a file of 200 MB
[09:42] <gry> Johnny_Giggles: it can use different pastebins as you configure it to. :-)
[09:42] <love> Anyone here running 11.10 beta 2?
[09:43] <reisio> rabbi1: to where?
[09:43] <reisio> rabbi1: is it a web server?
[09:43] <rabbi1> reisio: from Bangalore to Belgium
[09:43] <gry> love: ask #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:43] <sebsebseb> !!love
[09:43] <reisio> rabbi1: that's awfully B-y
[09:43] <sebsebseb> !11.10 | love
[09:43] <love> gry, sure
[09:43] <compdoc> love, I tried to use it: I installed it and then tried to set up Virtualbox. wasnt working
[09:43] <gry> love, good luck there. :-)
[09:44] <love> compdoc, I've had VB working just fine on it
[09:44] <compdoc> love, wait until its released
[09:44] <reisio> rabbi1: you could use scp
[09:44] <rabbi1> reisio: i have ubuntu server with net connection, now got to send/  share a file of 200 MB. so that the other person can download.
[09:44] <reisio> rabbi1: what OS is the other person on?
[09:45] <love> Wow so I ether have to reinstall windows or wait until 10.11 is released just so I can use my internal mic on my laptop
[09:46] <rabbi1> reisio: not sure, guess as Windows/ Mac
[09:46] <rabbi1> scp is only for intranet right
[09:46] <reisio> rabbi1: and the Ubuntu Server isn't a web server?
[09:46] <love> Sure wish I was raised as a Linux developer\
[09:46] <reisio> rabbi1: no it's for any ssh client/server
[09:46] <reisio> love: I wish I was raised as supreme world overlord
[09:46] <reisio> ...developer
[09:47] <gry> love: Feel free to try the beta and add any drivers you like. If they're stable, they may be added to 11.10 release.
[09:47] <compdoc> 11.10 is to be released real soon now
[09:47] <reisio> love: technically if there's something 11.10 can do, you can make it work with whatever version you have now
[09:48] <reisio> love: you found some bug and they said it's fixed in 11.10 ?
[09:48] <love> gry, it is more like I want to mod the driver some how in 11.04
[09:48] <rabbi1> reisio: ubuntu server is a webserver
[09:48] <love> reisio, now we are talking!
[09:48] <gry> love: Feel free to do so. If this works better, you could try to open a bug and attach the patch.
[09:48] <gry> !bugs | love
[09:48] <flexxxv> hey, how do i get a kernel patch to 11.10?
[09:48] <reisio> rabbi1: okay, just put the file in your htdocs somewhere, then
[09:48] <gry> flexxxv: Ask #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:48] <reisio> rabbi1: and give your friend the URI (http://domain.tld/path/to/file)
[09:49] <Operaist2> i have a folder with a bunch of subfolders, i want to use cp -r ./[!b] ./backup; but how come this doesn't work?
[09:49] <flexxxv> gry
[09:49] <flexxxv> gry:ok thx
[09:49] <rabbi1> reisio: o, ok that can be done, great brb then
[09:49] <reisio> Operaist2: hrmm?
[09:49] <jrib> Operaist2: what do you expect it to do?
[09:49] <love> reisio, no I just tried 11.10 for a while and was sooooo sooooo happy that I could use my internal mic!
[09:49] <love> It was so clear and noise free!
[09:50] <Operaist2> jrib: i expect it to copy every other folders into the backup folder
[09:50] <gry> love: Ok. This is stable support channel - please do not discuss 11.10 here. You could try #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-devel for the other stuff. Thank you.
[09:50] <jrib> Operaist2: what does "every other folders" mean?
[09:51] <Operaist2> jrib: pretty sure every other folder is self-explanatory
[09:51] <jrib> Operaist2: not really.  What do you expect your "./[!b]" to do?
[09:51] <Operaist2> everything that doesnt start with b?
[09:51] <love> gry, so do you have any ideas how to mod the audio driver in 11.04 to make the noise cancellation work correctly on my internal mic?
[09:51] <reisio> love: chances are it's only a difference with the kernel or alsa versions
[09:52] <jrib> Operaist2: it means every file that is exactly one character long and that character is not "b"
[09:52] <love> reisio, yeah true that
[09:52] <gry> love: Sorry, I am not a developer myself, neither I know anything about Ubuntu 11.10, sorry. Other channels may know more.
[09:52] <love> gry sure
[09:53] <gry> love: They must have a changes list somewhere, but I really don't know where, and they have a #ubuntu+1 to ask about this.
[09:54] <NuxRo> hi, which version would you recommend for laptop use (lower specs laptop), 10.04 or 11.04 ?
[09:54] <reisio> NuxRo: define 'lower specs'
[09:54] <gry> NuxRo: What specs?
[09:55] <NuxRo> celeron cpu, 1 gb ram
[09:55] <compdoc> I think 11.04 is faster, and has more drivers
[09:55] <reisio> NuxRo: celeron is nonspecific, do you have a model number?
[09:55] <zaapiel> 11.10 running gnome 3 with compiz out the arse
[09:55] <zaapiel> thats what i recommend
[09:55] <soreau> NuxRo: probably 10.04 since it's LTS and your machine likely has older intel gfx
[09:55] <gry> NuxRo: You might consider Lubuntu or Xubuntu in your choices there.
[09:55] <NuxRo> i read 11 has some nasty regressions in power usage and boot speed
[09:55] <NuxRo> i dont have a specific celeron model
[09:55] <iceroot> NuxRo: 11.04 has the bug also like 10.10
[09:55] <reisio> NuxRo: are you on IRC with this system right now?
[09:55] <compdoc> easy enough to try both
[09:56] <NuxRo> reisio: no
[09:56] <NuxRo> compdoc: yeah, i think i'll try both
[09:56] <NuxRo> cheers
[09:56] <reisio> well, really hard to say
[09:56] <reisio> "celeron" covers like ... 700MHz to 2GHz+
[09:56] <NuxRo> reisio: it's more recent, probably in the 2 GHz range
[09:56] <reisio> 1GB RAM isn't great, though, you can probably augment that on the cheap, though
[09:57] <reisio> NuxRo: see if crucial.com has any good deals for the ram right now, then you can use whatever without worry
[09:57] <reisio> just another gig would vastly improve that box
[09:57] <NuxRo> reisio: but with it as it is (the owner is not interested in hardware upgrades atm), which version do you recommend?
[09:58] <reisio> NuxRo: I don't know, does it have a dedicated graphics device, or just onboard?
[09:58] <Suhel> Hmmm
[09:59] <rabbi1> reisio: how can i do it, unable to , it's showing 0 bytes
[09:59] <luckymurali> Hi all
[09:59] <reisio> rabbi1: what is?
[09:59] <reisio> luckymurali: hi
[10:00] <NuxRo> reisio: dont have that info, cheers anyway, will try 10.04 and take it from there
[10:00] <reisio> :p
[10:00] <luckymurali> I installed ubuntu server on VMware
[10:00] <luckymurali> version 11.04
[10:00] <reisio> luckymurali: yeah?
[10:00] <iceroot> !enter | luckymurali
[10:01] <AofA> hello. attempting to install ubuntu 10.04 on a celeron 1.1 256 with active XP operating system. I manage to boot from live cd, but recieve this message: (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system. boot also take a very long time.
[10:01] <reisio> instead use the bot as punctuation
[10:01] <AofA> any suggestions?
[10:01] <Intel``> hi guys i need help with traceroute. im tracing an ip address and there are 3 hops that missed. does this mean there's a problem with ISP?
[10:01] <reisio> AofA: try re-burning the media, use a slower speed
[10:01] <reisio> AofA: or use a USB stick if you can
[10:01] <neo_21670> hi, just a short question, i haven't been able to answer w/googling: do i have the option to install ubuntu server from a live DVD image, or dvd version is the same as desktop cd w/more packages on the install media?
[10:01] <Silent_Samurai> http://pastie.org/2682001
[10:02] <reisio> neo_21670: the dvd has fluff you don't need
[10:02] <iceroot> Intel``: depending who is managing the missing hosts
[10:02] <reisio> neo_21670: i18n stuff, IIRC
[10:02] <AofA> you think the problem is with the live cd I made?
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> neo_21670: server is partitioned differently
[10:02] <Intel``> neo_21670,  dvd version i think it just an install DVD not live dvd
[10:02] <OnkelTem> I had some packages installed from PPA. Now I removed that ppa from APT list and want to install the packages from the main Ubuntu repository. How would I do this? When I issue: apt-get install --reinstall <package> it says: Reinstallation of gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. Why?
[10:02] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: like?
[10:02] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: what different layout does the server-edition have?
[10:02] <Suhel> For the live medium error try plugging in the usb stick in a usb slot wiv2.0
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> iceroot: /var and others are on separate partitions, i tried it
[10:03] <kaz2057> hi guy, I ask you an help to install an ubuntu server distro on a raid 0. Usually I install ubuntu desktop live, using apt-get install kpartx otherwise I cannot use raid configuration. Instead, using Ubuntu Server, I cannot install kpartx before the installation process, so it is impossibile for me install this on raid. Have you any solution please?
[10:03] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: the only difference is that the server-edition is using pae by default on 32bit systems and doesnt have a gui
[10:03] <Intel``> iceroot, it seems its the isp issue because route in london in hop 6 then 7&8 missed
[10:03] <reisio> kaz2057: you can setup your raid with any live image you want
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> iceroot: i experienced other differences, too
[10:03] <DrCooper> \join #ror
[10:03] <luckymurali> i am able to ping any websites and If i try to do apt-get update I am getting the error failed to fetch
[10:03] <reisio> neo_21670: "Don't be confused…" — http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[10:04] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server   like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <kaz2057> yes I know, but when I try to install ubuntu server on a partition raid, Ubuntu cannot see this partition ....
[10:04] <kaz2057> because Ubuntu server not include kpartx package ...
[10:04] <kaz2057> I need to include kpartx in the installation cd/distro
[10:05] <luckymurali> what may be the issue I stopped ufw & iptables
[10:05] <luckymurali> still same issue
[10:06] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: but interesting part about /var, i will check that later
[10:06] <AofA> suhel, reisio: Do I just copy the iso file to a usb stick and plug it in, or unzip the files to a usb stick?
[10:06] <reisio> AofA: you ca nuse an app like unetbootin
[10:06] <reisio> can_use*
[10:07] <kaz2057> any helps please?
[10:07] <harry_> How to reference the gnome current display
[10:07] <harry_> windows
[10:07] <reisio> harry_: do what?
[10:07] <iceroot> harry_: ?
[10:07] <neo_21670> thanks for the answers :)
[10:08] <reisio> kaz2057: you should be able to set up that stuff with any live system you like, one that has kpartx
[10:08] <reisio> kaz2057: and then come back and install to it
[10:08] <harry_> Means suppose there are 3 windows open on my current workspace , then i want to refrece my gnome..
[10:09] <luckymurali> i am able to ping any websites and If i try to do apt-get update I am getting the error failed to fetch, I disabled firewall what may be the issue?
[10:09] <kaz2057> ok but you can do it with a ubuntu desktop installation, not the server . you know if exist an ubuntu server live distro?
[10:09] <Ben64> luckymurali: can you "ping google.com"
[10:09] <kaz2057> I never see @_@
[10:09] <AofA> reisio: thank you, I will try that.
[10:09] <luckymurali> yes
[10:09] <reisio> harry_: you'll have to be more clear
[10:09] <Ben64> luckymurali: pastebin the full apt-get error?
[10:10] <harry_> reisio:actually i m facing a strage situation where i run a installer and it apears behind the current window but if i switch between works stations then i m able to see that installation window
[10:10] <reisio> kaz2057: you saying the server install image doesn't have a 'use without installing' mode like the desktop version?
[10:10] <reisio> harry_: between workspaces?
[10:10] <reisio> harry_: what's wrong with that solution?
[10:11] <Ben64> if you have a window "Always on Top" it makes new windows come up behind
[10:11] <Ben64> at least on my ubuntu
[10:12] <harry_> reisio: it means that my current window has all the properties of current focus window but as a user point of view its hide behind the window....but i want the permenet solution,i dont want to switch between the work station every time
[10:12] <Ben64> harry_: if you have a window "Always on Top" it makes new windows come up behind, at least on my ubuntu
[10:13] <ryannathans> What options do i even have? I NEED a FAST storage medium availible to BOTH windows AND linux.
[10:13] <Ben64> ssd?
[10:14] <ari_stress> any korean speaking here?
[10:14] <ryannathans> Ben64: I can't raid those -.-
[10:14] <AofA> reisio: I am creating a live usb stick now from iso file. Do I need to change my bios settings to boot from usb?
[10:14] <Ben64> ssd is faster than hdd raid
[10:14] <reisio> AofA: only if you do
[10:14] <ryannathans> Ben64: it's not reliable or redundant
[10:15] <ryannathans> nor is it very big
[10:15] <dr_willis> ryannathans:  like ntfs on a ssd
[10:15] <AofA> only if I do...?
[10:15] <dr_willis> ive seen ssd raid setups
[10:15] <elliotexe> Hi
[10:15] <ryannathans> dr_willis: eh?
[10:15] <kaz2057> [12:10] <reisio> kaz2057: you saying the server install image doesn't have a 'use without installing' mode like the desktop version? ANSWER: it doesn't have ...
[10:16] <dr_willis> ive seen ssd raid setups.. never used one.
[10:16] <ryannathans> dr_willis: they are horrid, never raid ssds
[10:16] <ryannathans> EVER
[10:16] <elliotexe> I can't wait until 26 April 2012. I am going to back up my files on Ubuntu (and the few that Windows 7 has not deleted ) and run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as my main OS.
[10:16] <reisio> kaz2057: weird
[10:16] <luckymurali> Ben64: W: Failed to fetch <address> I am unable to copy and paste since it is running from remote desktop
[10:18] <Ben64> luckymurali: can you browse the internet in firefox or chrome or... whatever you browse in?
[10:22] <kaz2057> nothing?
[10:23] <dr_willis> hmm?
[10:28] <harry_> i knw i knw but but i m making my own installer using installjammer and its causing problem for me...thats its not working
[10:28] <luckymurali> Ben64: desktop is not installed
[10:30] <Wisien> hi
[10:30] <sgs2_usr> can anyone help troubleshoot problem with my Ubuntu 11.04? I try to launch VirtualBox, efax-gtk, google earth, skype , all crashes and bring me back to the login screen.
[10:30] <Wisien> what is winamp replacement for linux?
[10:30] <sgs2_usr> i suspect anything to do with gtk interface from the app crashes
[10:31] <sitzy> Wisien: xmms?
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> Wisien: lmms
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> Wisien: or audacious
[10:34] <dr_willis> !xmms
[10:34] <sitzy> Beep Media Player
[10:34] <elliotexe> Rhythmbox  is a pretty good alternative  to iTunes
[10:35] <zaapiel> beep media player
[10:35] <dr_willis> dozens of players iut there. some have been discontinued
[10:35] <zaapiel> i used to chat with the developer of that
[10:35] <zaapiel> nice guy
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> audacious can even handle winamp skins, methinks
[10:35] <dr_willis> i thought beep was dead. :-$
[10:35] <dr_willis> !music
[10:38] <reisio> yeah audacious is what you want
[10:39] <reisio> xmms2 is a different type of app, and a pretender
[10:39] <pksadiq> well ask more at #ubuntu-bots ;)
[10:41] <TheMiNd> Hello.  I am running Lucid Lynx on an old Macbook Pro 1,1... the disc drive doesn't work
[10:41] <TheMiNd> I suspect its a driver problem
[10:41] <TheMiNd> does anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:42] <siouX_> hi, tomorrow, can i update my system normally? because, in older versions i have broken packages when i have update the system
[10:42] <reisio> TheMiNd: can you boot from a livecd and it works?
[10:43] <TheMiNd> I have no idea
[10:43] <reisio> TheMiNd: be a simple test to rule out hardware failure
[10:43] <TheMiNd> There's no OSX on this, just ubuntu
[10:43] <TheMiNd> This computer is a loaner from the friend
[10:43] <TheMiNd> *from a friend
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> siouX_: restart in Recover Mode (grub) en choose Repair
[10:44] <reisio> TheMiNd: CDs are really tedious low capacity versions of USB sticks anyways
[10:45] <siouX_> MonkeyDust, what? to update?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> siouX_: to repair the broken packages
[10:45] <dayana_em> hello
[10:46] <TheMiNd> I need to fix the CD drive if possible for now
[10:46] <siouX_> MonkeyDust, ok, so tomorrow i can update with apt-get normally
[10:46] <siouX_> i need change the repository, right?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> siouX_: i guess it's dist-upgrade
[10:47] <dayana_em> i have a translation of empathy  in .po format.But don't know how to install it,. plz help me
[10:48] <dayana_em> siouX_,
[10:49] <dayana_em> i have a translation of empathy in .po format.But don't know how to install it,. plz help me
[10:50] <tVenc> hey guys
[10:50] <tVenc> i have a quick question
[10:50] <tVenc> if i update now from 11.04 to 11.10 beta
[10:51] <dayana_em> hmm
[10:51] <tVenc> can i later update to full version of 11.10?
[10:51] <rabbi1> reisio: hey, kindly help, tried all
[10:51] <dayana_em> i think yes.
[10:51] <tVenc> i remember earlear
[10:51] <tVenc> i updated to beta
[10:52] <dayana_em> the updates will be just security updates
[10:52] <tVenc> but when full came out it didn't shoved me to update to full
[10:52] <tVenc> so it
[10:52] <tVenc> so it's better to wait for full?
[10:52] <vlt> Hello. Where does brasero store its list of recent projects? How to remove an item from it?
[10:52] <vlt> It's not in .config/brasero
[10:53] <auronandace> tVenc: it should be released on 13th, so can't you wait?
[10:53] <geirha> dayana_em: You first need to convert it to a .mo file with msgfmt. Then put it in the right directory. Look under /usr/share/locale/
[10:54] <tVenc> maybe i will and second question is it still not safe to update to gnome3?
[10:54] <auronandace> tVenc: gnome3 is not supported in 11.04, but it will be in 11.10
[10:54] <elliotexe> Can I install XP on VirtualBox using a CD?
[10:55] <jrib> elliotexe: sure
[10:55] <tVenc> that is why i want to go to 11.10 i hate this unity
[10:55] <elliotexe> I have only done it using an ISO. When it asks for the file I can't get it to work
[10:55] <geirha> vlt: I don't know, but you could try creating and saving a new project, then shortly after, run   find . -mmin -2  to see all files changed within the last two minutes.
[10:55] <tVenc> but still what is the difference if i update today to 11.10.
[10:55] <auronandace> tVenc: i get the feeling there are going to be a lot of upgrade issues so it would likely be better to install arfresh when 11.10 is released
[10:55] <rabbi1> how can i share a file to a remote location from ubuntu server ?
[10:56] <reisio> elliotexe: you can't get VirtualBox to boot from an ISO?
[10:56] <reisio> rabbi1: ...
[10:56] <vlt> geirha: Looks like there's an sqlite db .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite where it's stored.
[10:56] <rabbi1> reisio: I  have copied the file to webserver location, how can i access now
[10:56] <tVenc> yea i'm thinking about installing fresh 11.10
[10:56] <rabbi1> e.g.: i am trying ftp://localhost/foldername/filename
[10:56] <auronandace> tVenc: you'd need to update again tomorrow for the stable release
[10:57] <elliotexe> Just downloading a ISO.
[10:57] <tVenc> it will be possible to do that?
[10:57] <th0r> elliotexe: if you want to use a CD, check the box for live CD/DVD
[10:57] <auronandace> tVenc: that is the only difference
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: ah
[10:58] <tVenc> because as i said earlier when i updated to beta when full came out there was no update suggestions
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: you would actually need the server connected to a domain or public IP
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: better go back to scp
[10:58] <rabbi1> reisio: but its showing nothing.
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: is sshd running?
[10:58] <auronandace> tVenc: it is never recommended to upgrade to or from a beta release
[10:59] <reisio> th0r: that shouldn't matter to it working
[10:59] <Prince> Prince
[10:59] <tVenc> ok thanks for help
[10:59] <rabbi1> reisio: i am pretty new to this
[10:59] <reisio> rabbi1: pgrep -l ssh
[11:00] <vlt> When I try to remove an entry from sqlite db .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite I get "database is locked". How to fic this?
[11:00] <th0r> reisio: in the newest version of virtualbox you can choose an iso file for the virtual cd, but the only way to tell it to use the native drive is to check the liveCD box
[11:00] <vlt> *fix
[11:00] <rabbi1> reisio: yeah, running
[11:00] <elliotexe> I did that I also changed it so it would boot from CD first..I am still having problems
[11:01] <Prince> AS A MEMBER
[11:01] <vlt> I get "database is locked" for every command I try to run on .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite. Even ".databases".
[11:01] <Calinou> sudo was invented for a reason, I guess
[11:01] <reisio> rabbi1: k, I don't suppose you and your friend both use an IM client?
[11:02] <vlt> How can I stop Ubuntu asking me whether I want to log out when I clicked on "logout"?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> vlt: try ubuntu-tweak
[11:04] <rabbi1> reisio: i have no idea what my client is using, and unable to communicate instantly :( so got to give the link for a file and forget it.
[11:05] <zaapiel> may i speak to mark shuttleworth
[11:05] <zaapiel> id liek to ask him how it feels to be the first african in space
[11:05] <zaapiel> and also does he think thats kind of a dick move to be first with him being white and all?
[11:06] <zaapiel> i kind of thought it was
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> zaapiel: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:07] <ace__> will adding several ppa s slow the system down?
[11:08] <Myrtti> ace__: depending on how much and what you install from them
[11:08] <vsync_> zaapiel :D
[11:08] <geirha> ace__: An apt-get update will be slower, since it needs to download more package lists, but in general it won't slow the system down.
[11:09] <auronandace> ace__: more ppas you use the more likely something could go wrong; ppas are unsupported
[11:13] <rabbi1> reisio: any other way?
[11:17] <reisio> rabbi1: ah and forget it
[11:18] <ndrj> I just created a new ext4 partition, however, I can't make any changes in it from the normal GUI, seems to be read only. I assume I have to sudo, but I have no idea what to type to access that particular partition in the terminal.
[11:18] <reisio> rabbi1: how about a dropbox account, have one of those?
[11:18] <rabbi1> reisio: thats better :) will share from torrent
[11:18] <reisio> rabbi1: that could work... but could also be problematic
[11:18] <ndrj> It has a folder in it, and that folder shows up at "File System" too. So I guess it's just bunched up regardless of what partition it belongs to?
[11:19] <reisio> rabbi1: I pretty awful but simple way would be to put it in a password protected archive (7z a -mx=0 -p foo.7z originalfile) and upload to a file sharing site: http://multiupload.com/
[11:19] <ndrj> how do I refer to a specific partition as a path, is what I'm asking, I guess.
[11:19] <reisio> rabbi1: then give your client the file sharing link
[11:19] <rabbi1> reisio: that's ok, doesn't matter, will try to send through torrent, i have already uploaded to megashare.com
[11:19] <reisio> well megashare should suffice
[11:20] <rabbi1> megashare.com gives you password protected download, which i have already done :)
[11:20] <ndrj> i guess i use the "mount" command?
[11:20] <HarrehD> hello, anyone here able to help me troubleshoot my new install of ubuntu?
[11:20] <reisio> rabbi1: should suffice
[11:20] <toshiba> is this freenode?
[11:20] <reisio> ndrj: to do what?
[11:21] <reisio> toshiba: look at your window's title bar
[11:21] <rabbi1> reisio: thanks a lot
[11:21] <ndrj> reisio:  I just made a new partition, ext4, and I wish to access it. I think Ubuntu mounted it automatically, but I can't write to it.
[11:21] <reisio> ndrj: how do you know you can't write to it
[11:21] <toshiba> thanks
[11:22] <ndrj> reisio: I opened it in the GUI and tried to add a folder to it, but it was greyed out :(
[11:22] <ndrj> reisio: but then again, it should show up as a folder in "/" too, right?
[11:22] <despe70> any reason why ubuntu 10.04 still has dovecot 1.2.9 intead of the 2.x version ?
[11:22] <reisio> ndrj: what does 'mount' say about it?
[11:23] <ndrj> reisio: what is the command to list all partitions, again? so I can check which is which, first.
[11:23] <clockwize> hi, i want to run a script every 30 minutes in ubuntu desktop, the script opens browser windows (automated tests) so i don't think it can run through cron?
[11:23] <auronandace> !latest | despe70
[11:23] <clockwize> as that's for background tasks
[11:23] <reisio> despe70: because it's old?
[11:23] <reisio> ubottu: that's a good one :p
[11:24] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that, heh
[11:24] <psycose> Hi, using vsftpd, I would like to keep using ftp without SSL for my current users, but force a new virtual user to use SFTP, any tips ? thanks
[11:24] <ndrj> ah fdisk -1?
[11:24] <reisio> (proves its own point)
[11:24] <toshiba> y cant i connect to freenode?
[11:24] <despe70> reisio: "old" as in "the last LTS version"
[11:24] <reisio> ndrj: yeah
[11:24] <reisio> despe70: old is old
[11:24] <reisio> despe70: why is it you want 2
[11:25] <toshiba> cause i want to learn python
[11:25] <ndrj> oh l, not 1
[11:25] <Companion> toshiba, your on freenode :P
[11:25] <auronandace> !register | toshiba
[11:26] <auronandace> toshiba: some channels require that you register your nick
[11:26] <ndrj> reisio: /dev/sda3 on /media/b9b27d68-c606-402b-ad9d-9d636ec453aa type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[11:26] <ndrj> reisio: oh, that's mounted as the media folder on /?
[11:26] <RobinJ> WineHQ AppDB has been hacked. If you used the same password on multiple sites, change them as fast as possible. (so i'm screwed with using the same password on 200+ sites...)
[11:26] <toshiba> wow thank you and sorry for being so dumb
[11:27] <reisio> ndrj: no, as 'b9b27....' in the /media/ dir
[11:27] <auronandace> toshiba: no worries :)
[11:27] <ndrj> reisio: haha, can I mount it as something better, directly under / instead?
[11:27] <reisio> ndrj: yes, just mkdir /somethingbetter and add a line to /etc/fstab
[11:27] <auronandace> ndrj: why do you want it under /?
[11:28] <ndrj> auronandace: dunno, where do you suggest i put it?
[11:28] <reisio> /mnt/ is tradition
[11:28] <ndrj> aha
[11:28] <auronandace> ndrj: either /media or /mnt/
[11:28] <reisio> but /media/ works just as well
[11:28] <ndrj> ok
[11:28] <ndrj> ndrj:  so /media/somethingbetter
[11:28] <ndrj> etc/fstab is a config ifle?
[11:28] <ndrj> file*
[11:28] <reisio> it is indeed
[11:28] <ndrj> getting the hang of this
[11:28] <ndrj> x)
[11:29] <reisio> if you use e2label to give it a meaningful label, it's possible the system will use it instead of the UUID
[11:29] <ndrj> reisio: ah, duh. i left label out when I made it...
[11:29] <reisio> sudo e2label /dev/whatever fancynamehere
[11:30] <reisio> ndrj: well I'm not sure it'll use it, but if it's smart it will
[11:30] <reisio> otherwise it's back to /etc/fstab
[11:30] <ndrj> reisio: is that something i need to install?
[11:30] <flummy> http://666kb.com/i/bxqa3uy26lkhpx1ua.png
[11:30] <reisio> ndrj: you probably already have e2label
[11:30] <reisio> ndrj: you definitely already have /etc/fstab :)
[11:30] <toshiba> where could i register please?
[11:31] <reisio> toshiba: /msg nickserv help register
[11:31] <ndrj> reisio: yeah i did, so "sudo e2label sda3 blabl" ?
[11:31] <flummy> my xterms have redraw error, what could that be
[11:31] <auronandace> toshiba: ask in #freenode
[11:31] <reisio> toshiba: /msg nickserv help identify
[11:31] <flummy> (see 666kb url)
[11:31] <flummy> +s
[11:31] <reisio> ndrj: probably sudo e2label /dev/sda3 blah, yes
[11:32] <toshiba> thanks thanks
[11:32] <reisio> ndrj: and I don't know if the auto mount system will bother remounting it without you rebooting or telling it to (mount -o remount ?)
[11:33] <ndrj> reisio: was just about to ask, as it didnt change. maybe I have to remount it?
[11:33] <phlak_user> flummy: this normally happens if you resize the terminal while a curses prog is running; pressing ctl+l would force redraw
[11:33] <reisio> ndrj: yeah I don't see why they'd bother having it check if you change label and remount it :p could cause problems
[11:34] <ndrj> reisio: but a restart should do it? feels safer than me fiddling with mount or fstab
[11:34] <clockwize> gnome cron
[11:34] <flummy> phlak_user: i need to redraw all the time, xterms used to run for months without any glitches, and it has never been resized
[11:34] <reisio> ndrj: if it's goingi to work at all, yes
[11:35] <flummy> phlak_user: happens with ls as well
[11:35] <ndrj> reisio: i'll try, if not, i'll explore the beauty of fstab
[11:35] <Travis-42> Can anyone recommend a GUI video recording program? All I can find is Cheese, and it just locks up.
[11:35] <ndrj> brb
[11:35] <flummy> phlak_user: but thanks, was just trying to find out if anyone knows this problem :)
[11:35] <phlak_user> flummy: did you set non-standard geometry of xterm somewhere?
[11:36] <reisio> Travis-42: for your webcam?
[11:36] <flummy> phlak_user: don't think so... i forgot the location/name of the X11 resource file though
[11:36] <Travis-42> reisio, yep
[11:36] <flummy> maybe /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
[11:36] <Sidewinder1> Travis-42, FFMPEG has a front-end GUI called Winff (should be in the Repos.) but I'm not sure it records as I don't use it.
[11:36] <reisio> Travis-42: what is it you want the GUI to do?
[11:37] <reisio> Sidewinder1: just for format conversion
[11:37] <Sidewinder1> OIC
[11:37] <Yamauchi> what time GMT will 11.10 be released?
[11:37] <Travis-42> reisio, watch the video while it's being recorded, quickly play back to see that everything went right, on the fly configure things like contrast, etc., all the things that webcam video recording GUIs on Mac and Windows make much easier
[11:38] <flummy> phlak_user: app-defaults/XTerm seems to be unmaimed :)
[11:38] <flummy> no XTerm~ backup file around :)
[11:38] <Travis-42> Sidewinder1, I'll check it out
[11:38] <reisio> Travis-42: WinFF is just for format conversion
[11:39] <phlak_user> flummy: you could poke inside Edit->Profile Preferences in the Xterm menu
[11:40] <flummy> phlak_user: hm? i am talking about /usr/bin/xterm, i don't know of a Edit function in the xterm menus reached via Ctrl+leftclick/ rightclick :)
[11:40] <phlak_user> flummy: oh ok; i was imagining the GNome Terminal :)
[11:41] <flummy> phlak_user: no i can't stand that one :)
[11:41] <reisio> Travis-42: should probably fix your Cheese, or switch to using ${media player of choice} for playback and ffmpeg for post-processing
[11:41] <Travis-42> reisio, yea, I'll see if I can find out why Cheese locks up since it seems to be the only linux tool
[11:42] <Travis-42> thanks
[11:43] <flummy> phlak_user: i will probably start by turning compiz visual effects off, right?
[11:43] <prabal> #android
[11:43] <flummy> is there a simple way to turn compiz visual effects off without unchecking 20 checkboxes?
[11:44] <ndrj> reisio: yeah, it worked.
[11:44] <reisio> ndrj: good times
[11:44] <phlak_user> flummy: sure; or try starting xterm with different -geometry values
[11:44] <flummy> phlak_user: i think it's not the geometry
[11:44] <flummy> phlak_user: happened to other xterms with other geometrys as well
[11:44] <ndrj> reisio: what the hell is this "lost+found" folder in it, though? :D
[11:44] <flummy> its probably a redraw problem
[11:44] <flummy> happens only in xterm tough
[11:44] <phlak_user> ndrj: its similar to that cupboard you had at school :)
[11:45] <reisio> ndrj: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.html#lostfound
[11:45] <phlak_user> flummy: sure
[11:45] <reisio> ndrj: if it's on an otherwise empty new partition you can just rm it
[11:45] <flummy> probably some 16 year old gnome progammer was not aware of the full 1980 X11 spec used by the not so young xterm :)
[11:45] <ndrj> reisio: it is. so I'll do that
[11:45] <flummy> and gnome programmes are probably all using gnome-terminal
[11:45] <flummy> hehe
[11:46] <auronandace> Travis-42: you could try vlc too (vlc can use my in-built camera)
[11:46] <ndrj> reisio: however, I can't seem to write to it, from the GUI. do I have to change permissions?
[11:46] <reisio> ndrj: sudo chown youruser:youruser /media/fooowoink might suffice
[11:47] <ndrj> reisio: haha i'll try :)
[11:47] <skipr> hello
[11:48] <reisio> hi
[11:48] <skipr> i have a problem with linux 3.0.4
[11:48] <skipr> i installed it on my ubuntu 10.10
[11:48] <ndrj> reisio: sure did
[11:48] <skipr> and now gdm3 crashes at startup
[11:48] <ndrj> reisio: you're the man :P
[11:48] <auronandace> skipr: that is not supported
[11:48] <skipr> wauronandace what is not supported?
[11:49] <jamey-uk> Suddenly my server has stopped booting, it just sits with a flashing cursor waiting to boot. It's an EFI machine, and the disk seems to be GPT, but I don't know what's wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706649/ Can anyone help?
[11:49] <auronandace> skipr: 3.0.4 on 10.10 (and gnome3)
[11:49] <flummy> auronandace: interesting, why not?
[11:49] <skipr> everyone would be better off with 3.0.4 and 10.10
[11:49] <skipr> because 11.04 and newer use unity and gnome3
[11:50] <ndrj> will paths in a config file allow for spaces?
[11:50] <skipr> both of which suck a major woody
[11:50] <flummy> i think 11.04 has gnome 2
[11:50] <skipr> yea but unity
[11:50] <auronandace> skipr: you can use gnome2 on 11.04
[11:50] <ndrj> as in "/media/blabla/downloaded torrents/"?
[11:50] <skipr> yes
[11:50] <flummy> skipr: very easy to remove
[11:50] <skipr> but i also want to use latest kernel
[11:50] <ndrj> or do I have to use something like %20
[11:50] <ndrj> :P
[11:50] <skipr> should i get a different login manager?
[11:50] <flummy> skipr: maybe you need to turn on the new lie-about-kernel-version feature
[11:51] <flummy> so that the 3. series kernels pretends to be 2.6
[11:51] <ndrj> ah nvm, ill just avoid spaces in folder names
[11:51] <skipr> flummy nah
[11:51] <skipr> oh
[11:51] <skipr> that thing
[11:51] <skipr> i'll try that when im back home
[11:51] <skipr> thanks guys
[11:51] <skipr> see ya
[11:53] <flummy> auronandace: what is the technical reason for gnome2 not supporting 3 series kernels?
[11:53] <ndrj> reisio: I assume that, if I give a user permission to a folder, it gives permission to all subfolders of that folder as well?
[11:53] <auronandace> flummy: i never said that
[11:53] <ikonia> flummy: where did you read that ?
[11:54] <Travis-42> auronandace, I'll try vlc too, thanks
[11:54] <flummy> auronandace: oh, what did you say then? :)=
[11:54] <ndrj> reisi: you reisio? :P
[11:54] <auronandace> flummy: 10.10 doesn't support gnome3 or the linux 3 kernel
[11:54] <spectusGN> Hello, I've written a little shellScript i want to run while bootup. So I made a line to rc.local. The script asks for user input, but the boot process just continues, so i can't write anything. What can I do to stop boot while script is running?
[11:54] <reisi> ndrj: nope, chuck testa
[11:55] <sajimon> hello, im having tough timer mapping samba server share on mine ubuntu machine via cifs, cant anyone check this error http://wklej.org/id/606686/
[11:55] <flummy> auronandace: and what is the technical reason for 10.10 not supporting kernels with 3-series version numbering?
[11:55] <flummy> excuse my inquisitive style
[11:55] <iceroot> flummy: 10.10 is supporting both, but we dont support it here
[11:55] <phlak_user> sajimon: seems like a very good reason -> NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[11:55] <iceroot> flummy: you can install gnome3 and linux 3.0 on 10.10
[11:55] <flummy> well you should say that then
[11:55] <auronandace> flummy: there is nothing technical stopping you from installing kernel 3 on 10.10, it just isn't supported by #ubuntu
[11:55] <flummy> fair enough
[11:56] <flummy> but you should put it that way :)
[11:56] <reisi> sajimon: just like phlak_user said; authentication (or perhaps authorization) error
[11:56] <sajimon> phlak_user: im sure password is okay, in fact its working on another linux machine
[11:57] <spectusGN> Hello, I've written a little shellScript i want to run while bootup. So I made a line to rc.local. The script asks for user input, but the boot process just continues, so i can't write anything. What can I do to stop boot while script is running?
[11:57] <phlak_user> sajimon: if you have smbclient, you could run that and check
[11:57] <phlak_user> !repeat| spectusSN
[11:58] <reisi> sajimon: could it be that you cannot have two connections with the same authentication? (just guessing)
[11:58] <holtgrew_> Hi, I have a problem with wmii. "wmiir read /" prints a lot of binary garbage, including my user name, interleaved with what I would it expect to print. Does anyone have a guess what's going wrong?
[11:58] <flummy> spectusGN: the easy way would be to replace upstart with the conventional system V init scripts, but there are probably sveral (deprecated or current) tools to prompt for user input in the upstart boot process
[11:59] <flummy> several
[11:59] <jamey-uk> Does anyone know how to get GRUB working with a GPT partition on a UEFI machine?
[12:02] <n0ti0nis> hi!
[12:02] <ejv> here i was... about to answer jamey-uk
[12:02] <n0ti0nis> I need help, I really don't understand how to use PPA
[12:02] <ejv> and he just leaves... lol
[12:02] <n0ti0nis> I've built a kernel for desktop use
[12:03] <n0ti0nis> and i wanna upload my .deb packages
[12:03] <n0ti0nis> on a PPA
[12:03] <n0ti0nis> I read wiki and tutorial but I didn't understad :(
[12:03] <Singham> !enter | n0ti0nis
[12:04] <n0ti0nis> How can I upload my .deb packages on my PPA? I've built a kernel for desktop use
[12:04] <ejv> n0ti0nis: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[12:05] <phlak_user> spectusGN: one way could be to put the script inside the /etc/rcS.d directory (you can read the README file there for details)
[12:05] <comitt> hello. if i installed xfce desktop environment, do i still have grub2 as the boot loader?
[12:05] <ejv> comitt: desktop environments are independent of the underlying bootloader, so most likely yes, you still do
[12:05] <iceroot> comitt: sure
[12:05] <iceroot> comitt: the desktop has nothing to do with the grub-package
[12:06] <phlak_user> comitt: the DE is like the upholstery in your car and grub2 is like your starter motor
[12:06] <comitt> gksu isnt working in xfce, should i just use su/sudo? i tried to tuse the command gksu gedit /etc/default/grub, but nothing shakes
[12:06] <ejv> holtgrew_: wmii is outside the scope of support this channel can provide, i suggest the wmii forum, mailing list, etc...
[12:06] <iceroot> comitt: gksudo
[12:07] <comitt> thanks
[12:07] <xangua> Commander1024: because gedit is not installed on kubuntu¿
[12:07] <phlak_user> comitt: gk might not work at all since its dependent on the gtk+ environment which may or may not be present in your system
[12:07] <xangua> i mean xubuntu/xfce
[12:07] <comitt> gksudo worked :)
[12:07] <xangua> that was for comitt :/
[12:08] <Commander1024> i see ;-)
[12:08] <comitt> to update grub2 under xubuntu, its gksudo update-grub2, right? just making sure :)
[12:10] <phlak_user> comitt: after editing /etc/default/grub
[12:10] <hexacode> how can i specify a name for a symbolic link in the same line i use to create it?
[12:10] <comitt> yes indeed phlak_user
[12:11] <phlak_user> hexacode: ln -s /path/to/file /name/of/symlink
[12:11] <hexacode> thanks
[12:11] <phlak_user> hexacode: yw
[12:12] <comitt> any idea why xubuntu is updating today like 50 updates? just curious
[12:13] <ndrj> can I use screen to detach and make a terminal window of its own?
[12:13] <phlak_user> ndrj: you can create many new screens by pressing ctl+a+c
[12:14] <ejv> ndrj: what?
[12:14] <ejv> phlak_user apparently speaks confusing, well done mate ;)
[12:14] <phlak_user> ndrj: if you meant the *screen* package
[12:14] <rvm> exit
[12:14] <ndrj> no idea, im an utter linux noob
[12:14] <phlak_user> ejv: tx :)
[12:14] <ndrj> :D
[12:14] <ndrj> but i think s
[12:14] <ndrj> o
[12:15] <ejv> "one screen session should be enough for anyone..." :D
[12:15] <ndrj> right now I can switch between my "screen" and my normal terminal with ctrl-D and then screen -r
[12:15] <phlak_user> ejv: unless you are on a remote session
[12:15] <ndrj> but I'd like to see both at the same time, and just alt-tab between them? :P
[12:15] <ejv> was a play on the infamous 640K ram bill gates joke :p
[12:16] <flummy> ndrj: screen supports creation and switching betweenmultiple sessions
[12:16] <phlak_user> ndrj: not sure what it is you want to achieve
[12:16] <ndrj> haha
[12:16] <flummy> ndrj: just press ctrl+a+c like phlak_user said
[12:16] <ndrj> flummy nothing happened, probably because im "inside" rtorrent, already, though?
[12:16] <ejv> ndrj: yes you can have them both in their own 'tiles', ctrl + a + c , then to move, ctrl + a + n, to move backward ctrl + a + backspace
[12:17] <ndrj> alright
[12:17] <flummy> ndrj: first press ctrl a, then release ctrl a, then press c
[12:17] <ndrj> ahaaa
[12:17] <phlak_user> ndrj: and ctl+a+0, ctl+a+1 etc to switch between them
[12:17] <flummy> ndrj: now type "man screen" without the ""
[12:17] <flummy> and hit enter
[12:18] <phlak_user> flummy: you the "man" :)
[12:18] <ejv> i prefer cycling with [N] and [BCKSP], easier than reaching for number row
[12:18] <flummy> :)
[12:19] <ndrj> ok, now i can switch between them
[12:19] <flummy> ndrj: now type "man screen" without the ""
[12:19] <flummy> and hit enter
[12:19] <ndrj> flummy:  yeah i did, wall of text crit me for 500k damage
[12:20] <flummy> well noone said unix was for wow gamers
[12:20] <ndrj> just saying =)
[12:20] <flummy> don't be afraid, it's only text
[12:21] <flummy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng
[12:21] <iuytfr> hi
[12:21] <iuytfr> hi
[12:21] <ndrj> anwyay, what i asked was...since im running this fancy graphical userface and not only a bash prompt thingie, if I could have two terminal windows side by side, on my screen?
[12:21] <phlak_user> hi
[12:21] <ndrj> err, interface*
[12:21] <ndrj> lol userface :D
[12:22] <iuytfr> is it possible to change disk name by command line ? for example i want to change sdb disk to sdc possible ?
[12:22] <phlak_user> ndrj: just spawn two terminal windows and arrange them side-by-side
[12:22] <flummy> ndrj: you mean like that: http://koffein.org/b/desktop.jpg (screenshot from 1998)
[12:23] <phlak_user> iuytfr: volume label or disk nomenclature?
[12:23] <ndrj> phlak_user: I guess i got confused by...well, when I clicked terminal again it just brought me to my first windows, so I assumed there's only support for 1 at a time.. :D
[12:23] <ndrj> window*
[12:23] <Pici> ndrj: 'terminator' might interest you.
[12:23] <phlak_user> ndrj: it probably spawned it over the old one; just move it to the side
[12:26] <ndrj> phlak_user: this might sound stupid, but is it possible to start a new terminal window by typing in the first terminal window? :D
[12:26] <iuytfr> no remember
[12:26] <Myrtti> ndrj: sure
[12:26] <ndrj> Myrtti: what's the command? cause terminal didnt work :P
[12:26] <phlak_user> ndrj: yes, but the second one also gets destroyed if you close the first one
[12:27] <iuytfr> i simply want to umount sdb and mount it on sdc
[12:27] <Myrtti> ndrj: gnome-terminal& depending on what you are running
[12:27] <phlak_user> ndrj: gnome-terminal
[12:27] <ndrj> phlak_user: gah, i see. any way around this?
[12:27] <ndrj> Myrtti: thanks
[12:27] <MrElendig> iuytfr: you don't mount anything in /dev/
[12:27] <phlak_user> ndrj: oh i stand corrected; it actually stays on
[12:27] <MrElendig> iuytfr: and why care about the device name? Use UUID or LABEL instead of you want it to be reliable
[12:28] <flummy> iuytfr: the sdb,sdc identifiers are allocated by the system
[12:28] <flummy> you should not try to change them
[12:28] <flummy> as they IDENTIFY the disk in question
[12:28] <ndrj> phlak_user: awesome, finally I can have rtorrent in a window of its own
[12:28] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> ndrj: Or make a terminal-starting daemon that launches at startup, and you just need to send it a signal to open up a terminal
[12:28] <phlak_user> ndrj: ok
[12:29] <ndrj> MAREK_BENC_NetB: i've heard about this daemon thing, I'd have to read about it though
[12:29] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> May i ask? Is ubuntu a good choice for a Netbook OS? (Currently, I'm running Debian Testing on it, and i want something fresh and fancy)
[12:29] <flummy> iuytfr: do you copy?
[12:30] <MrElendig> MAREK_BENC_NetB: works just fine, might not want to run gnome/unity though
[12:30] <phlak_user> MAREK_BENC_NetB: ive been running ubuntu on my eepc's since the 701
[12:30] <iceroot> MAREK_BENC_NetB: try it with a live-cd but normally ubuntu is one of your best choices for newer systems
[12:30] <ndrj> my friend sayd he ran rtorrent with a daemon thingie, something about "rtorrent -d"
[12:30] <phlak_user> MAREK_BENC_NetB: im now on a eeepc 1500 with unity
[12:31] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Cause debian with Xfce mixed up just for my taste is beggining to boar me.
[12:31] <ndrj> didn't really understand what it did, though
[12:31] <dotty> MAREK_BENC_NetB: the unity UI works really well on netbooks/small-screen laptops.. better than on larger screens imo
[12:31] <flummy> MAREK_BENC_NetB: there are light weight alternatives for systems with less than 4GB of ram
[12:31] <flummy> MAREK_BENC_NetB: i wouldn't use ubuntu on 2GB ram
[12:31] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> It's 1G
[12:31] <iceroot> flummy: why?
[12:31] <dotty> i've used ubuntu on 1GB of RAM perfectly well
[12:31] <flummy> well use a lightweight derivate then
[12:31] <phlak_user> flummy: i havent had an issue (but i could not be a typical user)
[12:31] <Yamauchi> also on an eee pc
[12:32] <iceroot> flummy: you want to say 2gb ram is not enough for ubuntu? (unity or gnome2)
[12:32] <Yamauchi> wondering if kubuntu would be better
[12:32] <nnfx> i use ubuntu on 1gb ram
[12:32] <flummy> iceroot: because lightweight alternatives provide about 5 times the performance if the base system consumes less than 105% of available RAM
[12:32] <iceroot> flummy: lubuntu
[12:32] <flummy> iceroot: it just does not perform well
[12:32] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I once used UNR on this netbook, but it sucked badly compared to normal desktop ubuntu of that time.
[12:32] <flummy> iceroot: for example, yes
[12:33] <iceroot> flummy: also please read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[12:33] <ndrj> uh ok, when i ran "sudo gnome-terminal" it opened as the user root. this is not recommended, I guess?
[12:33] <ndrj> xD
[12:33] <iceroot> ndrj: its not recommend
[12:33] <flummy> iceroot: i'm a computer scientist and have advanced degrees in software engineering and soon computer systems engineering, thank you very much
[12:34] <MrElendig> MAREK_BENC_NetB: I prefer a tiler on netbooks. More efficient in regards to screen space, and most importantly, much easier to controll by keyboard, which is somewhat important since the pads on most netbooks are rather crappy
[12:34] <n2i> Hi!
[12:34] <iceroot> flummy: then its sad that you dont know the link i have posted :(
[12:35] <MrElendig> flummy: you should know better than to post fud then
[12:35] <flummy> it is just a measured fact
[12:35] <n2i> How I make Ubuntu font family display Vietnamese character correctly?
[12:35] <flummy> lubuntu/LXDE should be much better for a 1GiB system
[12:36] <MrElendig> flummy: not that you can't run openbox on ubuntu either etc...
[12:36] <phlak_user> n2i: have you got the Vietnamese fonts installed?
[12:36] <flummy> MrElendig: what should that have to do with VRAM usage?
[12:37] <faLUCE> hi, I deleted some files from an usb stick. Is there a way to recover them? I couldn't find them in the local trash
[12:37] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> MrElendig: My Debian Testing XFce Setup is very clean, and gives me a lot of space to work with.  I hope by this tyme they removed that ugly thick bar.
[12:37] <iceroot> faLUCE: not really
[12:37] <n2i> phlak_user: Vietnamese font? Did you mean fonts support Vietnamese char?
[12:37] <iceroot> !recover | faLUCE
[12:37] <MrElendig> flummy: only difference betwen lubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop enviroment and default services run etc
[12:37] <iceroot> faLUCE: but normally its not possible
[12:38] <flummy> MrElendig: i think the relevant claimed difference is in VRAM usage?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:38] <TehDGM> but if its still using less then 1 gb in both cases, it wouldnt make much of a difference would it
[12:38] <n2i> Some font such as: Droid or Linux Biolinum is fully display Vietnamese chars but Ubuntu font doesnot
[12:38] <TehDGM> because it wont page to hd until > 1gb
[12:39] <flummy> TehDGM: wrong.
[12:39] <flummy> TehDGM: caching/paging determine the system's speed
[12:39] <flummy> no ram = no caching
[12:39] <dotty> flummy, sure that the issue isn't with graphics performance, etc? i'd say that's the main issue on laptops which usually use integrated (intel integrated drivers are somewhat lacking in my experience on linux)
[12:39] <gleydson> hello i need some hel
[12:39] <gleydson> *help
[12:39] <flummy> dotty: yes.
[12:40] <gleydson> i want to install a tar.gz file but i cant
[12:40] <hackedfocus> gleydson: what is it exactly that you want to install?
[12:40] <gleydson> this openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz
[12:40] <jatt> tar xvzf openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz
[12:41] <gleydson> i do that but later i dnt know what do
[12:41] <MrElendig> gleydson: use the package system instead.
[12:41] <gleydson> i use the ./config
[12:41] <MrElendig> gleydson: and if noone have packaged, not even in ppa, then atleast use checkinstall
[12:41] <phlak_user> back
[12:42] <hackedfocus> you can ext:l
[12:42] <gleydson> i need this packaged too
[12:42] <phlak_user> n2i: http://www.unifont.org/fontguide/ should help you with the unicode fonts
[12:42] <gleydson> i dnt find thi on the system
[12:42] <bucaneiro> how to unstall chrome?
[12:42] <gleydson> *this
[12:42] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:42] <bucaneiro> chrome is troubling me
[12:43] <xangua> bucaneiro: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[12:43] <MrElendig> bucaneiro: how did you install it in the first place?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> bucaneiro, how did you install it ?
[12:43] <TehDGM> bucaneiro: sudo apt-get remove chrome-browser
[12:43] <TehDGM> i think thats the packagename
[12:43] <TehDGM> cause just plain chrome is a game
[12:43] <bucaneiro> ok, thanks
[12:44] <gleydson> anyone to help me about the openerp-web?
[12:44] <phlak_user> TehDGM: its actually chromium
[12:44] <phlak_user> !info chromium
[12:44] <phlak_user> oh
[12:44] <TehDGM> !info chrome-browser
[12:44] <TehDGM> !info chromium-browser
[12:44] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:44] <TehDGM> :)
[12:44] <xangua> !info chromium-browser | phlak_user TehDGM
[12:44] <phlak_user> ok
[12:44] <bucaneiro> blank screen?
[12:44] <TehDGM> bots aren't allowed to talk to me :)
[12:45] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:45] <TehDGM> ye its chromium then :)
[12:45] <dotty> bhush: does it use ATI graphics?
[12:45] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:45] <Pici> !repeat|  bhush
[12:45] <bhush> dotty : yes
[12:46] <gleydson> any idea about my question?
[12:46] <dotty> tried "radeon.modeset = 0"?
[12:46] <phlak_user> gleydson: what was it please?
[12:46] <dotty> sorry..
[12:46] <dotty> tried "radeon.modeset=0"?
[12:46] <bhush> yes
[12:46] <dotty> ah.. no clue then, sorry
[12:46] <dotty> i've had trouble in the past with such though
[12:47] <bhush> Ok
[12:47] <phlak_user> bhush:  you dont even have a text console? pressing ctl-alt-f1 can bring it up
[12:47] <gleydson> need to install something and i cant
[12:47] <phlak_user> gleydson: ok so what is it
[12:47] <dotty> phlak_user, highly doubt that'll work
[12:47] <dotty> screen goes completely blank
[12:47] <gleydson> openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz
[12:47] <Pici> !doesntwork | gleydson
[12:48] <bhush> when shud I press ctrl+alt+f1 to bring text console
[12:48] <xangua> !compile | gleydson
[12:48] <phlak_user> dotty: lets remove that doubt by testing it out eh?
[12:48] <n2i> phlak_user: This 'style' make Ubuntu font display Vietnamese chars very nicely, on the web, of course. How to make it on desktop (I mean on GUI suck as gtk app and so on)
[12:48] <n2i> http://userstyles.org/styles/37610/ubuntu-font-on-facebook-userstyles-google-etc
[12:48] <gleydson> !compile
[12:48] <dotty> phlak_user, aye.. just saying
[12:48] <Isumi> Hi, lately I have been having random crashes on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop. the mouse cursor is still moving , but nothing else works. It's still possible to connect via ssh though. any idea what can be the problem?
[12:48] <phlak_user> bhush: when you have a blank screen
[12:48] <gleydson> i try all possibilities
[12:48] <bhush> after booting....!!
[12:49] <xangua> Isumi: no remote conection here ;)
[12:49] <dotty> Isumi, tried running "top" via ssh to see if anything is consuming large amounts of resources?
[12:49] <dotty> or using ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a tty
[12:49] <jason_> so I wanted to retain a folder's contents with all ownership/group/permissions intact, so I copied everything to my external using sudo cp -p -R. When I did this command back to the other server, it came over as owned by me:me with 700 perms instead of root:root with 755. What did I do wrong?
[12:49] <Isumi> /usr/bin/X is at 100%
[12:49] <Isumi> (cpu)
[12:50] <phlak_user> n2i: you mean like this --> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[12:50] <Isumi>  1008 root      20   0 95508  21m  11m R  100  1.1  12:59.74 Xorg
[12:50] <Isumi> (i have it crashed right now, i'm on the other PC.)
[12:51] <Isumi> there is nothing special in dmesg
[12:51] <flummy> Isumi: he's dead, jim
[12:51] <Isumi> what should i try to find the source of the problem?
[12:52] <Isumi> oh.
[12:52] <flummy> Isumi: you have little hope to improve the quality of xorg from that end
[12:52] <Isumi> in Xorg.log
[12:52] <phlak_user> gleydson: generally, you explode the tarball (tar zxvf your.tar.gz); cd your.directory; read the installation instructions
[12:52] <Isumi> [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[12:52] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[12:52] <stephi> i need to convet avi video to 3gp which software can do that?
[12:52] <jason_> handbrake
[12:52] <flummy> Isumi: well but you could tell that from the cpu consumption :)
[12:52] <n2i> phlak_user: no, I dont! I love Ubuntu font family and set it as default application font. I dont wanna change my GUI language.
[12:52] <phlak_user> n2i: ok so what is it you want then?
[12:53] <n2i> Have I to edit something in /etc/font.conf?
[12:53] <Isumi> I have some backtrace, but no idea what to do with it...
[12:53] <flummy> Isumi: without a specific suspection about the cause - just kill it and restart it
[12:53] <Isumi> here is the backtrace : http://pastebin.com/j6nf4PQ1
[12:54] <Isumi> but it's happening more and more
[12:54] <flummy> not good
[12:54] <Isumi> i'd like to fix it if possible...
[12:54] <flummy> did you try a different OS installation or usb stick?
[12:55] <Isumi> only have ubuntu now
[12:55] <incorrect> how can i remove the gtk tab widget thing in the bottom right on each window?
[12:55] <flummy> Isumi: step 1 would be to chance either the complete hardware or the complete OS
[12:55] <flummy> to divide the problem
[12:55] <flummy> s/chance/change
[12:56] <flummy> or start with a (very) different graphics adapter
[12:57] <_melvin_> HI. on 11.10 / gnome3 the gnome-terminal always show the menubar.
[12:58] <flummy> Isumi: our you could move system hard disk and graphics adapter to another hardware
[12:58] <jason_> so I wanted to retain a folder's contents with all ownership/group/permissions intact, so I copied everything to my external using sudo cp -p -R. When I did this command back to the other server, it came over as owned by me:me with 700 perms instead of root:root with 755. What did I do wrong?
[12:58] <Isumi> ... is there no way to at least identify the problem from the logs/ etc?
[12:58] <flummy> not for me
[12:58] <Isumi> does someone else have an idea then?
[12:59] <flummy> i mentioned three quick steps for identification
[12:59] <gleydson> exit
[12:59] <cutiyar> when we get 11.10?
[12:59] <Isumi> yeah, "buy a new laptop, tehre won't be a problem"
[12:59] <iceroot> _melvin_: #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <Isumi> i don't see how that's identification
[12:59] <flummy> Isumi: you don't have access to another hardware?
[13:00] <flummy> no friends/colleagues?
[13:00] <Isumi> i am on another computer right now, how does that help?
[13:00] <n2i> phlak_user: Sorry for my poor English. Thanks for help!
[13:00] <flummy> Isumi: well good luck then
[13:00] <Isumi> i don't have any problem on this one, great. so ?
[13:00] <Isumi> i can't open a laptop and unplug the graphic card, obviously.
[13:01] <flummy> (i can open my thinkpad and unplug its graphics adapter)
[13:01] <Isumi> well, for one thing, that usually voids the guarantee.
[13:01] <flummy> nope
[13:01] <fritsch> flummy: you can`t it is integrated
[13:01] <iceroot> flummy: please stop this useless support
[13:01] <fritsch> flummy: never found my graphics card in my thinkpad
[13:02] <flummy> fritsch: i guess it depends on the thinkpad :)
[13:02] <flummy> iceroot: i'm happy to stop it and observe isumis progress
[13:02] <fritsch> flummy: i do not know a thinkpad, where you can just unplug the graphics module
[13:02] <flummy> i do
[13:04] <cutiyar> ??
[13:04] <K3rmit> I'm having trouble because a lot of packages are missing and apt-get doesn't find any apache packages.. What is wrong? I didn't mess with sources.list really except maybe uncomment some more things so that it finds stuff.
[13:05] <dork> what do you mean a lot of packages are missing
[13:05] <AaronMT> Where can one find the final image of 11.10, I know one can usually find them on the ftp the day before
[13:05] <K3rmit> I try to install other packages and it says it doesn't find them
[13:06] <flummy> K3rmit: did you compare your package sources to those of a working system?
[13:06] <dork> K3rmit: pastebin your sources.list please
[13:06] <K3rmit> flummy I mean it was a fresh ubuntu install
[13:06] <dork> K3rmit: pastebin your sources.list and pastebin the results of a sudo apt-get update
[13:06] <flummy> K3rmit: did you specify a http proxy at any point?
[13:07] <K3rmit> no
[13:07] <TehDGM> xD
[13:07] <K3rmit> ok I'll come back later, I have to boot up the system.
[13:07] <Pici> AaronMT: Its not done yet. Feel free to await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or get help in #ubuntu+1
[13:08] <xr--> Wow :)
[13:09] <Isumi> what is the clean way to stop the server X from console?
[13:10] <Isumi> i thought "gdm stop" would do the trick, but visibly nto
[13:10] <captainjamie> pkill X?
[13:10] <flummy> Isumi: it is in a faulty state
[13:10] <yogg> Hi
[13:10] <pksadiq> sudo service gdm stop
[13:10] <flummy> Isumi: you need to order the operating system to terminate it
[13:11] <Isumi> ok a kill -9 works
[13:11] <yogg> I have installed "php5-auth-pam" to use pam authetification out of php
[13:11] <yogg> But this only works with root rights and the lighttpd server should not run as rott
[13:11] <xr--> Kill the pid
[13:11] <Companion> Isumi, kill -9?
[13:11] <Companion> :P
[13:11] <yogg> has someone an idea for me how to fix this?
[13:12] <Companion> why using that? :)
[13:12] <phlak_user> yogg: you can use suexec from apache
[13:13] <wide_awake> hi - quick question: is it possible to reorder the entries in the "Open With" context menu, or are they forced to alphabetic order?  If it can be changed, how do I do it?
[13:14] <phlak_user> wide_awake: gconf-editor should have the settings; let me check
[13:14] <libScout_> i would like to setup an intranet behind my gateway NAT... if I lock down port 80, will outgoing requests still reach there destination?
[13:14] <yogg> phlak_user: so i should start this script with root rights? this sounds realy ugly ^^
[13:15] <flummy> libScout_: what do you mean by "set up an interanet", another NAT router?
[13:15] <flummy> -e
[13:15] <phlak_user> libScout_: yes, if you will be locking down incoming requests on port 80
[13:16] <bucaneiro> .
[13:16] <libScout_> flummy: basically I have a couple of PHP scripts for simplifying tasks for a couple "non-techs" for a headless server and i want everyone behind the gateway NAT to see port 80 but no one outside the NAT can access the web server
[13:16] <phlak_user> yogg: dude, if you have a script that needs to be run as root; im showing you how it could be done
[13:18] <libScout_> phlak_user: is this achievable with ufw?
[13:18] <dork> libScout_: so kill port 80 on the router
[13:18] <dork> libScout_: is the webserver behind your router?
[13:19] <wide_awake> phlak_user, where would I find the open-with list in gconf-editor?
[13:19] <libScout_> dork: yes
[13:19] <dork> libScout_: can you just bind a local IP to one of the interfaces on the web server?
[13:19] <drahst> I've looked just about everywhere and google doesn't even know... I've installed ubuntu server 10.04 LTS with just the virtualization option and I cannot figure out how the default bridge is starting up or how to edit it. Any ideas?
[13:19] <libScout_> dork: does it matter that i am forwarding port 22 to the same cpu that contains the web server?
[13:20] <dork> libScout_: no, if you filter port 80 on the router it will have no impact on port 22 unless you make it
[13:20] <yogg> phlak_user: i don't think it must be run as root.  As user i can also change to another account with "su - otheruser" without root rights. If i find the right pam.d rules it should also work as www-data.   But maybe Iam on the wrong way
[13:20] <libScout_> dork: yeah... i didnt think of that
[13:20] <phlak_user> wide_awake: ok heres another way -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823835
[13:20] <libScout_> dork: ok... thanks for the help
[13:20] <dork> np
[13:20] <phlak_user> libScout_: yes
[13:21] <wide_awake> phlak_user, reading. thanks
[13:21] <phlak_user> drahst: brctl
[13:22] <drahst> how do I change the address?
[13:22] <phlak_user> !info bridge-utils
[13:22] <drahst> I can't even figure out how it is starting up... there's no config, but dnsmasq looks like it's firing up
[13:23] <Isumi> is there an easy way to switch to the vesa driver in ubuntu?
[13:24] <drahst> hmm... component main?
[13:24] <flummy> Isumi: maybe change /etc/X11/xorg.conf, Section "Device", Driver to "vesa", but i do not know
[13:24] <wide_awake> phlak_user, not quite what I'm looking for - I want to reorder the list, not add/remove entries.  I want GVim to always be first in the list, followed by all the other choices
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Isumi: you can blacklist drivers, i believe there is a boot option
[13:24] <drahst> I'm in just regular old cli...
[13:24] <wide_awake> I suspect it's just sorting them by name :-/
[13:24] <drahst> no xorg/x11 installed