[10:13] <n-iCe> How can i know in what directory i am
[10:13] <fatcatmatt> do you have permission to access it, onats?
[10:13] <whalesalad> the 6.06 release, what's it called?
[10:13] <vistakiller> pwd
[10:13] <n-iCe> 10x
[10:13] <faileas> whalesalad: i think it was dapper drake
[10:13] <ProfessorTom> I know this is a Ubuntu room, but I have a simple C++ question. If I have a class and I instantiate it and use it, can I call the constructor of that class later in the program or is that a no-no?
[10:13] <whalesalad> thanks faileas
[10:13] <ProfessorTom> whalesalad Dapper Drake
[10:13] <ProfessorTom> fatcatmatt: your gf left you because of Vista?
[10:14] <fatcatmatt> nope, professortom, hence the JK part...just kidding
[10:14] <ProfessorTom> fatcatmatt: doh!
[10:14] <whalesalad> Anyone know how to enable python mode for emacs?
[10:14] <onats> fatcatmatt, yes.. user is the same as the owner
[10:14] <fatcatmatt> it's all good, professortom...you really a professor?  LMAO ROFL
[10:14] <fatcatmatt> hmmm onats...gparted?
[10:14] <marcello> irc://irc.rizon.net/albums
[10:15] <ProfessorTom> fatcatmatt: no, it's a name that's followed me for a long time
[10:15] <onats> yeah... downloading it now...
[10:15] <onats> tnx
[10:15] <fatcatmatt> ahh, professortom.  mine is because i'm so dang good at my job!
[10:15] <fatcatmatt> bossman calls me Fat Cat Matt
[10:15] <onats> fatcatmatt, what do you do?
[10:15] <fatcatmatt> I am a courier.  http://www.ondemandcourier.com i believe is the site
[10:16] <fatcatmatt> i drive titles and loan docs around the phoenix metro all day long :)  best job in the world
[10:16] <onats> gee
[10:17] <faileas> you drive on train tracks? ;p
[10:17] <Frogzoo> whalesalad: esc x python-mode - should happen automatically as you open python code
[10:17] <fatcatmatt> nope.  metro = metropolitan...the whole area
[10:17] <qwehnce> when switching from ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop, is there a way to remove all the deps of ubuntu-desktop?
[10:18] <whalesalad> Frogzoo: that isn't working :/
[10:18] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <fatcatmatt> do we have some dumb people in the room or did the smart people all die???
[10:18] <fatcatmatt> ohhhhh
[10:18] <ProfessorTom> fatcatmatt: what do you mean?
[10:18] <TTilus> qwehnce: just remove ubuntu-desktop and all the automatic dependences of it are removed
[10:19] <SuperLag> Have you guys had good luck with any particular model of webcams?
[10:19] <fatcatmatt> well, professortom, who in god's name drives a car on the railroad tracks?
[10:19] <ompaul> TTilus, wrong, it is a meta package
[10:19] <ProfessorTom> fatcatmatt: WTF?
[10:19] <faileas> fatcatmatt: its a joke, metro= subway in a lot of places
[10:19] <TTilus> qwehnce: ah, sry, ompaul had it correct
[10:19] <qwehnce> TTilus: no it removes the meta file, but leaves all of the deps
[10:19] <Frogzoo> whalesalad: probly you need install python-mode
[10:20] <fatcatmatt> professortom:  <faileas> you drive on train tracks? ;p
[10:20] <whalesalad> frogzoo: what's the command for that?
[10:20] <ompaul> qwehnce, apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop and then you can try to pick out what is below that - you could apt-get remove --purge gnome and that would kill a lot of stuff
[10:20] <Ahadiel> Night guys.
[10:20] <qwehnce> ompaul: thanks
[10:20] <ompaul> qwehnce, to be "pure" a reinstall is needed
[10:20] <fatcatmatt> i'm from the midwest usa...metro is the friggen surrounding area!  c'mon now!
[10:20] <ompaul> fatcatmatt, you are offtopic please stick to support in this channel
[10:21] <A[D] minS> astro76 still the same error because the url which u gave me for firmware not bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:21] <qwehnce> ompaul: not really looking for pure, just trying to save some space
[10:21] <ompaul> qwehnce, what I suggested will give you a fair amount
[10:21] <qwehnce> ompaul: thanks again.
[10:21] <fatcatmatt> ompaul: oh, i'm sorry.  i will stick to topic from now on, please don't ban me :( ROFL
[10:21] <A[D] minS> The problem is "--12:20:50--  http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o" This file not found so what i have to do to install bcm43xx on fiesty !!
[10:21] <astro76> A[D] minS, you don't need the fwcutter with that, what is saying you need fwcutter?
[10:21] <ompaul> qwehnce, but saving space and kde are not hand in hand that is xubuntu to be honest
[10:21] <TTilus> qwehnce: i cant figure out any better way than launch aptitude, view ubuntu-desktop package dep list and remove/purge them and check every time it doesnt require to remove kubuntu- ... cumbersome, but should work
[10:21] <neol> how do i change the permission of an files & folder wont by root to narmal user ?? :)
[10:22] <A[D] minS> astro76 ok so what i have to do after install bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[10:22] <neol> how do change the permission of files & folder owned by root to normal user ??
[10:22] <qwehnce> ompaul: i just dont want two DE's on my system
[10:22] <faileas> neol: look up chmod
[10:22] <TTilus> neol: i feel like you want to change _owner_ of the file
[10:22] <faileas> and ask once and wait, please neol. repeating a question is damn annoying
[10:23] <Tripokey> sudo chown username:usergroup filename
[10:23] <TTilus> neol: sudo chown theuseryouwant thefiles
[10:23] <askand> can i somehow rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available?
[10:23] <astro76> A[D] minS, nothing, that is supposed to install the firmware to /lib/firmware (which is what fwcutter does after it extracts it from that file)
[10:23] <neol> faileas: i did mistake while typing no retyped it.
[10:23] <ompaul> qwehnce, so just install xubuntu if you want space
[10:23] <neol> TTilus: how exactly i need full format/ command.
[10:24] <A[D] minS> astro76: ok i will try to use wifi now
[10:24] <neol> neol: i tried chmod but i dint work out, may be some work syntax.
[10:24] <Tripokey> you should use chown
[10:24] <neol> TTilus: i tried chmod but i dint work out, may be some work syntax.
[10:24] <mrynit> I flashed my bios and now X cant find my video card, but windows sees it fine. this is the error i get http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/mrynit/XnoRadeon.jpg
[10:24] <TTilus> neol: that was full, just replace user and file
[10:25] <TTilus> neol: you do not want to chMOD, you want to chOWN, to change OWNER, not privileges
[10:25] <TTilus> neol: sudo chown theuseryouwant file1 file2 ...
[10:25] <Tsukasa> hey if i plug a second hd into my computer and try to raid 0 it will my bios raid-ify my existing information on the drive
[10:25] <neol> TTilus: ok brb, trying.
[10:26] <TTilus> neol: or sudo chown theuseryouwant:thegroupyouwant file1 ...
[10:26] <jzl_> Hello, can someone tell me how to execute a script.sh file by calling the terminal executable?
[10:26] <TTilus> neol: you might want to read unix file permissions tutoria/primer or like
[10:26] <ompaul> Tsukasa, that is your bios not a ubuntu question, ask the maker of the bios - most likely it will but it does not hurt to ask
[10:26] <fatcatmatt> ompaul:  OP ME!
[10:27] <Tsukasa> ompaul, okay. one more question, how hard is it to install ubuntu on a raided drive
[10:27] <whalesalad> Why is emacs python-mode, apt-get install python-mode. how generic and lame.
[10:27] <ompaul> Tsukasa, I have not had problems with my 5 different raided servers
[10:27] <Tsukasa> okay, cool
[10:27] <Tsukasa> thanks
[10:28] <neol> TTilus: i'm now able to access the folder, but still i can see that "Lock icon " on folder, why is that so. ?
[10:28] <ompaul> Tsukasa, they are all a year or tthree old
[10:28] <TTilus> neol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[10:28] <TTilus> neol: cause it IS locked  ;)
[10:29] <TTilus> neol: just read and understand, then you'll probably know  :)
[10:29] <askand> acan i somehow rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available?
[10:29] <neol> TTilus: okay reading it :), thx
[10:30] <fivetwentysix> How come sometimes when I boot my system
[10:30] <fivetwentysix> I get a soft CPU lockup or whatever
[10:30] <TTilus> neol: if you want to write to folder you need either own the folder and have rwx for owner, or belong to group which the folder belongs to and have rwx for group or have rwx for world (other) for the folder
[10:33] <TheZanke> How hard is python to learn?
[10:33] <askand> can i somehow rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available?
[10:33] <TheZanke> because the O'Reilly Programming Python, 3rd Edition is decently vague so far
[10:33] <TTilus> TheZanke: 42
[10:34] <fivetwentysix> Learning programming languages is a slow process.
[10:34] <TTilus> TheZanke: exactly
[10:34] <ompaul> TheZanke, length of a piece of string, and learning python might be a better book
[10:34] <TheZanke> Well, I have learned like some perl and i took C++ in school
[10:34] <fivetwentysix> You have to constantly do the same things over again and learn every detail about it to actually come to a clear understanding of how everything works.
[10:34] <TTilus> TheZanke: can you _program_?
[10:34] <Tripokey> TheZanke: http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html if you are already familiar with programming it will take 1-3 days
[10:35] <TTilus> TheZanke: to what level you want to learn python?  what do you wanna do with it?
[10:35] <TheZanke> i noticed ##python is empty... i was shocked
[10:35] <TTilus> TheZanke: check python.org to see where they have channels
[10:35] <ompaul> TheZanke, there is a #python
[10:36] <TTilus> TheZanke: and you might wanna try #python instead of ##python  ;)
[10:36] <fivetwentysix> You have to be registered to go into #python
[10:36] <TheZanke> Oh, hey... there they are!
[10:38] <askand> can i somehow rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available?
[10:38] <goodguest> ubuntu is not bad
[10:39] <Roham> Hi, my laptop does not show the DNS in the network or at the router... what can be wrong? I can only type in the ip to connect to the computer...
[10:40] <Enselic> Roham: what does  cat /etc/resolv.conf  give you?
[10:40] <n-iCe> how can i mnow my ip
[10:40] <Enselic> n-iCe: ifconfig
[10:41] <n-iCe> bcast or inet addr ?
[10:41] <Enselic> n-iCe: same
[10:42] <Psychomethod> hey guys i just used the sudo tiger command, i got a security report, something bothers me though
[10:42] <Psychomethod> --WARN-- [boot02]  The configuration file /boot/grub/menu.lst has group
[10:42] <Psychomethod>          permissions. Should be 0600
[10:42] <Psychomethod> that ^^
[10:42] <Psychomethod> can someone please explain to me what this means, and how to fix it please?
[10:43] <Enselic> Psychomethod: it comlains about the permissions about the file
[10:43] <Enselic> Psychomethod: that more users than root can edit it
[10:43] <Psychomethod> should i be worried, or should i just ignore it?
[10:43] <Enselic> Psychomethod: well, the warning is there for a reason :)
[10:44] <defrysk> it has to do with sudo i guess
[10:44] <Psychomethod> ok, how do i set the permission for it? do i use chmod 0700 /boot/grub ?
[10:44] <Psychomethod> sorr *0600
[10:44] <Amaranth> Psychomethod: sudo chmod 0600 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:44] <Psychomethod> ah ok, ty
[10:44] <defrysk> to be able to edit it you need sudo
[10:44] <esteth> How do i remove a program from the ones that start at login, but from the terminal?
[10:44] <Enselic> Psychomethod: my menu.lst does not have 600 permissions
[10:44] <Enselic> and what I have is the Ubuntu default
[10:44] <binanet> Psychomethod : check you /boot/gerub/menu.lst properties
[10:44] <TTilus> Psychomethod: you should be worried if the file is editable by somebody else than root _or_ if its readable by somebody else than root and there is plaintext password(s) inside
[10:44] <Amaranth> Enselic: mine does
[10:44] <Amaranth> Enselic: and _it_ is ubuntu default, i've literally never opened that file
[10:45] <Enselic> hmm, wierd
[10:45] <Psychomethod> yeah same enselic, i just tried the tiger security auditer, and its told me some stuff like this
[10:45] <myriadar> does anyone has a good how-to for teamspeak2 and ubuntu 7.04 (i'm having problems with alsamixer and my mic)
[10:45] <Enselic> Psychomethod: just a tip, use Ens<TAB> instead of writint Enselic manually
[10:46] <Psychomethod> so basicall by default the /boot/grub/menu.lst is read/write for everyone by default for ubuntu??
[10:46] <Enselic> Psychomethod: in your IRC client I mean
[10:46] <ompaul> esteth, sudo apt-get install rcconf and invoke that
[10:46] <esteth> ompaul: thanks
[10:47] <defrysk> Psychomethod, for anyone who has sudo rights
[10:47] <Psychomethod> ah ok thanks
[10:47] <binanet> Psychomethod : mine is readable by everyone but only writeable by root
[10:47] <binanet> dunno about the default :p
[10:47] <n-iCe> Enselic and how can i know my public ip?
[10:48] <Enselic> I have just built a sound kernel module (snd-hda-intel.ko) but when I modprobe it, modprobe uses the old snd-hda-intel.ko. What is the RIght way of making modprobe use the newly built module?
[10:48] <defrysk> binanet, correct
[10:48] <Enselic> n-iCe: depens on your network setup
[10:48] <Psychomethod> omfg, joachim is my name lol
[10:48] <Enselic> n-iCe: if you are behind a rounter, ask your router
[10:48] <jscinoz> Hey guys, eclipse keeps crashing with this error: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6210/eclipsecrashbc1.png any ideas?
[10:48] <texjoachim> can anyone help me with adding a printer on ubuntu server 7.04
[10:48] <ompaul> Psychomethod, no it is 644 which is readable by others and only editable by someone with sudo powers which is a "sensible" default
[10:49] <myriadar> does anyone has a good how-to for teamspeak2 and ubuntu 7.04 (i'm having problems with alsamixer and my mic) <-- no one? :(
[10:49] <Psychomethod> oh i just done sudo chmod 0600 /boot/grub/menu.lst, should i change it to 644 now?
[10:49] <Enselic> myriadar: apparently, no
[10:50] <ompaul> Psychomethod, well yeah, always nice to check stuff as a default user - the setup is not "stupid" and I can't see a reason for not letting any user see it, it is not like some kind of top secret potion
[10:50] <Psychomethod> true lol
[10:50] <TTilus> Psychomethod: 0644 is perfectly safe usually, only if the machine is kiosk or like and you want to pw protect boot options to be sure about things then i think it should be 0600
[10:50] <ompaul> Psychomethod, if it was a box where I was renting out space then maybe I would not like joe random-user reading my config files
[10:51] <TheZanke> hmm
[10:51] <binanet> texjoachim : system-> adinistrator -> printing
[10:51] <Psychomethod> ya, i think im just going over board, more of just curiosity though
[10:51] <askand> can i somehow rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available?
[10:51] <texjoachim> binanet: there is no x on ubuntu server
[10:51] <binanet> oohh..
[10:52] <b14ck> how can i generate an identity.pub file?
[10:52] <binanet> sorry
[10:52] <ompaul> Psychomethod, be careful alter the wrong thing cos some script suggests it work it out .. it will bite :)
[10:52] <Enselic> b14ck: for SSH? use ssh-keygen
[10:52] <b14ck> ssh-keygen isnt creating an identity.pub file for me... how can i do this?
[10:52] <b14ck> Enselic: it is only creating a id_rsa.pub file
[10:52] <Enselic> b14ck: same thing, different name
[10:52] <Psychomethod> well its set to 0600 so ill find out sometime i guess
[10:52] <ompaul> b14ck, ssh-keygen -t rsa <<< there ya go
[10:52] <Psychomethod> lol
[10:55] <myriadar> in my Volume Control, alsamixer only has a "playback"-page and no "recording"-page, could be this the source of the problem?
[10:55] <binanet> texjoachim : have you try search the forum for setting printer on server
[10:55] <Moryc> hello
[10:56] <b14ck> Enselic: im basically trying to get it so that my ubuntu comuter can ssh to anohter computer on my network without a password, but i cant get it to work
[10:56] <b14ck> Enselic: have any idea how to do this?
[10:56] <Enselic> b14ck: yeah
[10:56] <b14ck> Enselic: basically, i just copied the id_rsa.pub file to othercomputer/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:56] <orbisvicis> !pastebin
[10:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:56] <b14ck> Enselic: but it didnt work
[10:56] <Enselic> b14ck: first of all, do you run an ssh server on the computer you want to connext to?
[10:56] <b14ck> Enselic: already done that
[10:56] <Enselic> b14ck: can you ping the other computer?
[10:57] <mnemo> my harddrive LED is blinking all the time in Ubuntu... I want to know which program is using the disk? how can I tell which one it is??
[10:57] <b14ck> Enselic: yes
[10:57] <Enselic> b14ck: can you login with a password?
[10:57] <b14ck> Enselic: yes
[10:57] <booster> hey guys.....can anyone tell me how to upgrade from ubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu ultimate gamers edition ???
[10:57] <sauvin> "ultimate gamers edition"?
[10:58] <Enselic> b14ck: by "othercomputer", do you mean $HOME?
[10:58] <Frogzoo> booster: there is no such animal as ultimate gamers edition
[10:58] <booster> i found a distro called Ubuntu ultimate gamers edition
[10:58] <b14ck> Enselic: by othercomputer I mean <IP_ADDRESS> ;D
[10:58] <booster> google it i swear there is
[10:58] <Frogzoo> booster: well read their docs
[10:58] <texjoachim> binanet: yes
[10:58] <Migeru> Hi
[10:58] <Enselic> b14ck: what is the full path on the ohter computer to the authorized_keys you speak of?
[10:58] <Frogzoo> booster: but as that's a different distro, don't expect support here
[10:58] <binanet> booster : i believe the ultimate game edition have their repository
[10:58] <Migeru> spanish people?
[10:58] <b14ck> Enselic: basically, what i have is this computer (which i just did ssh-keygen on). then i scp'ed it to root@<IP_ADDRESS>:/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:59] <ompaul> !es | Migeru
[10:59] <ubotu> Migeru: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:59] <texjoachim> the problem is: the ppd file is not there
[10:59] <texjoachim> I have it on my machime
[10:59] <Enselic> b14ck: it is not recomended to alow root logins through ssh
[10:59] <b14ck> Enselic: then i try to do: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>#but it still asks for a password
[10:59] <texjoachim> but the server lacks it
[10:59] <Enselic> b14ck: yeah, you need to add the .pub key to the .ssh/authorized_keys of the user you login as
[10:59] <ompaul> b14ck, did you stick a password into the key you were generating or did you just hit enter?
[10:59] <texjoachim> usr/share/ppd/linuxprinting.org-gs/Minolta/Minolta-PagePro_8L-ljet2p.ppd.gz this it it
[11:00] <b14ck> ompaul: just hit enter
[11:00] <texjoachim> but it isn't there on the server
[11:00] <BBking> Does somebody know a good online poker game for Ubuntu?
[11:00] <booster> ok i have another question.......what chat client can i use to chat in a room for yahoo messanger....gaim wont work anymore
[11:00] <Enselic> b14ck: so instead of /root/.ssh/authorixed_keys, but it in /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:00] <binanet> booster : simply yahoo fault
[11:00] <b14ck> Enselic: im tryin that right now
[11:00] <binanet> lol
[11:00] <ompaul> b14ck, and the file you copied to is .15:/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[11:01] <b14ck> ompaul: yes
[11:01] <ompaul> b14ck, check the spelling of that file
[11:02] <askand> apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory
[11:02] <askand> why?
[11:02] <Enselic> askand: in what context?
[11:03] <Migeru> Please, I need to configure a printer in a print server of a router US RObotics, but i know
[11:03] <Enselic> askand: why? becuase the file does not exist
[11:03] <askand> Enselic:  I try to start apache2 webserver..I tried to reinstall apache2 hoping it will install a new conf file but no.. :(
[11:03] <ompaul> b14ck, do this on the machine where you made the file, cd .ssh/ ; scp id_rsa.pub user@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/USERNAME/.ssh/box1 and then ssh in and copy box1 to the authorized_keys --- I do this to allow our users use various systems  so often it is part of my blood :)   -- I should script it but somehow I don't want a script that does that kind of thing even living in my or roots home
[11:04] <ompaul> b14ck, nasty debian boxes :)
[11:04] <till__> Hi, on feisty, I have problems to get emacs and auctex running, I am low on time and google didn't help this time. Any hints?
[11:04] <Enselic> askand: maybe  dpkg-reconfigure apache2 works
[11:04] <Enselic> or apache perhaps
[11:04] <b14ck> ok 1 min lemmet ry that ompaul
[11:05] <askand>  Enselic: nope : /
[11:05] <terrance> what software can ?I use to download songs something like limewire for win
[11:06] <Frogzoo> !frostwire | terrance:
[11:06] <ubotu> terrance:: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:06] <ompaul> till__, sudo apt-get install auctex xemacs21 << which part of that is not working?
[11:06] <terrance> 10z
[11:06] <Roham> Enselic: it says my router IP
[11:06] <b14ck> ompaul: http://rafb.net/p/t8NyBG89.html <--- this is what is happeneing. take a look
[11:06] <Enselic> Roham: ?
[11:06] <Roham> (10:39:44 AM) Roham: Hi, my laptop does not show the DNS in the network or at the router... what can be wrong? I can only type in the ip to connect to the computer...
[11:07] <askand>  Enselic:  other ideas? : (
[11:07] <Pinky> Hi, i'm having trouble with my sound in ubuntu fiesty fawn. i have 2 sound cards, 1 being unsupported and the other being HD audio
[11:07] <Enselic> askand: sorry, nop
[11:07] <ompaul> b14ck, it works :)
[11:07] <Enselic> askand: but there is an easy good way of fixing this, I just on't know it :)
[11:07] <Roham> Enselic: you asked me to type cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:07] <b14ck> ompaul: it doesnt work. see at the bottom how it still asked me for my password?
[11:07] <b14ck> ompaul: i had to type in my password
[11:07] <ompaul> b14ck, sorry
[11:07] <Roham> Enselic: and it says nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:08] <Enselic> b14ck: have you enabled pubkey login in the sshd_config?
[11:08] <till__> ompaul, I am trying to use FSF emacs, btw.
[11:08] <sauvin> That looks like a router IP.
[11:08] <b14ck> Enselic: no idea
[11:08] <b14ck> Enselic: how do i do that
[11:08] <ompaul> till__, use the packaged ones or rebuilt the whole world
[11:08] <Enselic> b14ck: the ssh server settings is at /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:08] <Enselic> b14ck: man sshd_config
[11:09] <askand> Enselic: hmm..do you have apache2.2-common in your repositories?
[11:09] <Roham> Enselic: any ideas?
[11:09] <Enselic> Roham: I don't see the problem
[11:09] <Enselic> Roham: oh
[11:09] <Roham> Enselic: I cant the ROHI-laptop in the network in other computers or the router
[11:09] <Pinky> anyone with ideas on that.
[11:09] <Roham> Enselic: can only connect through IP
[11:10] <Enselic> Roham: does your router have nameservers specified?
[11:10] <nullptr> is it possible to have Xgl in Gutsy start not from within Xorg ?
[11:10] <till__> ompaul, I do,  sudo apt-get install auctex emacs22, nothing else.
[11:10] <Enselic> Roham: you use your router as nameserver so the router must know about nameservers
[11:10] <ompaul> b14ck, what is the ls -l for authorized_keys
[11:11] <aztec13> The topic has now been changed to "Targeting Local Inet Cafes"
[11:11] <b14ck> -rw-r--r--
[11:11] <aztec13> lol
[11:11] <b14ck> -rw-r--r-- <--ompaul
[11:11] <Roham> Enselic: how do you mean? this computer (stationary, ubuntu) is visible with DNS but not the laptop, the difference is that I have manually configured my stationary but the laptop is automatically configured
[11:11] <ompaul> b14ck, no idea what is going on there
[11:11] <ompaul> b14ck, that all looks correct
[11:11] <till__> ompaul, My apt.sources are plain feisty, nothing else. I also tried --reinstall.
[11:12] <Enselic> Roham: what do mean with "visible with DNS". do you run your own DNS server?
[11:12] <ompaul> b14ck, that all ____looks____ correct where the word looks important
[11:12] <askand> hmm..anyone else have apache2.2-common in their repositories?
[11:12] <orbisvicis> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <Roham> Enselic: no... I mean the name... e.g. ROHI-stationary and ROHI-laptop
[11:13] <Puaff> please, does it work geforce 8400 in ubuntu?
[11:13] <Enselic> Roham: if you don't run an DNS server, your own local network names has nothing to do with DNS
[11:13] <till__> ompaul, ubuntu does this, and this looks like a bug - remove/auctex: Ignoring emacsen flavor: "emacs22"...  install/auctex: Ignoring emacsen flavor: "emacs22"
[11:13] <ompaul> till__, cos it expects emacs21
[11:13] <Enselic> Roham: if I understand you right, you want to be able to name other computers on your network, without using your own DNS server?  then you should edit /etc/hosts
[11:14] <Roham> Enselic: ok, but how do I make my laptop visibly on the network? my stationary is visible... and I share folders i both computers
[11:14] <till__> ompaul, so emacs22 and auctex are not working on ubuntu, right?
[11:14] <Roham> Enselic: ok... wait gonna open the file
[11:14] <donkdonk> google has failed me. i can not seem to find the nrpe daemon package
[11:14] <Enselic> Roham: can you ping the laptop from the stationary? then th laptop is visible
[11:15] <donkdonk> anyone shoot me a link?
[11:15] <knight5482> hello , i would like to know if it possible to update ubuntu 7.04 Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)
[11:15] <knight5482>  pe
[11:15] <booster> can anyone tell me how to install a package that ive downloaded to my desk top and extracted it ???
[11:15] <Dragonfly> woaw
[11:15] <girl_nCe> maa
[11:15] <ompaul> till__, well 22 does not come with feisty, and as such the plugins are ready for 21 not 22 so that is the issue,
[11:15] <knight5482> sorry fixing
[11:15] <Roham> Enselic: yes but only with the IP number not the host name
[11:15] <Dragonfly> 1000 users
[11:15] <girl_nCe> i dun know
[11:15] <Enselic> booster: what package?
[11:15] <booster> zinc
[11:15] <knight5482> hello , i would like to know if it possible to update ubuntu 7.04 Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM) to 64 bit ?
[11:15] <Enselic> Roham: network visibiliy has nothing to do with name resolution
[11:16] <bullgard4> Where is the function printk() described in syntax and semantics?
[11:16] <Enselic> Roham: now, if you want to use names, and *not* run your own DNS server, edit the /etc/hosts file on the computer you want to use names on
[11:16] <ompaul> b14ck, so what is wrong at that point ... something is wrong I can't see it from here
[11:16] <till__> ompaul, Okay, sorry. I thought it would work.
[11:16] <b14ck> ompaul: ya..
[11:16] <inflater> hello guys
[11:16] <b14ck> ompaul: no idea
[11:16] <b14ck> ompaul: i give up
[11:16] <ompaul> till__, no worries
[11:16] <booster> Enselic the package is zinc-1.14
[11:16] <inflater> i just downloaded beryl through synaptic
[11:17] <donkdonk> anyone? i am looking for the nrpe deamon. is it just not made for ubuntu 6?
[11:17] <ompaul> b14ck, don't go anywhere that looks strange - let me go though it again
[11:17] <inflater> but it doesnt work, after installing
[11:17] <Enselic> booster: sourcecode package?
[11:17] <Enselic> booster: read README or INSTALL of the package
[11:17] <inflater> i restarted X, restarted system, nothing.. :(
[11:17] <Roham> Enselic: ok my bad :P but how can e.g. windows resolve names automatically , because I want to use names due to ip change... my router sux so it will change ips all the time ... even if make them fix to mac addresses. I have a network printer on a ubuntu machine
[11:17] <Puaff> does anyone know if the geforce 8400 is supported in gutsy?
[11:17] <Puaff> I just can use 24 bit colour :(
[11:17] <till__> ompaul, so its a "backports" are not "stable" problem? I will try to change the .deb/pre/post scripts .
[11:18] <booster> it says in the read me i need to be ran as root to install the install.sh
[11:18] <ompaul> b14ck, okay rm .ssh/id_rsa* and lets start again and please do the commands as I suggest letter for letter
[11:18] <knight5482> hello plz can someone help me , i would like to know if it possible to update ubuntu 7.04 Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM) to 64 bit version  ?
[11:18] <Enselic> Roham: sorry, don't know about Windows :P
[11:18] <b14ck> ompaul: ok
[11:18] <Desolator_> helllo
[11:18] <ompaul> till__, if that is where you got emacs from yeap
[11:18] <inflater> anyone could run beryl with feisty? it is installed but i do not know how to run it, i tried the beryl settings manager but it didnt work
[11:18] <kruqnut> hello
[11:18] <Roham> Enselic: on the router the stationary has the name resolved "ROHI" but the laptop hasnt
[11:18] <kruqnut> i need some help
[11:18] <inflater> and i have the desktop effects turned off
[11:18] <ompaul> b14ck, so have you removed those files on ..6 ?
[11:18] <till__> ompaul, Yes, just check my apt sources.
[11:18] <Enselic> inflater: are you after beryl specifically, or desktop effects in genral?
[11:18] <b14ck> ompaul: yes
[11:18] <Enselic> inflater: in any case, #ubuntu-effects
[11:19] <inflater> Enselic: beryl...
[11:19] <Roham> Enselic: so I can just type ROHI in different computers and directly connect to it
[11:19] <booster> what is the command to run as root??
[11:19] <inflater> Enselic: the desktop themes are off
[11:19] <inflater> Enselic: *effects
[11:19] <ompaul> b14ck, ssh-keygen -t rsa   <<< lets do it with the option on
[11:19] <kruqnut> I'm trying to triple boot my system, im using bootitng, the bootitng site said i need to install GRUB to the first part of my linux partition in order for bootitng to boot it up
[11:19] <Roham> booster: sudo
[11:19] <kruqnut> can anyone help me with that?
[11:19] <ompaul> !rootsudo | booster
[11:19] <ubotu> booster: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:19] <zsh> hi. are the archive.ubuntu.com up, I'm getting connection timeout errors.
[11:19] <b14ck> ompaul: done
[11:20] <Enselic> Roham: run a nameserver (DNS server), or use the /etc/hosts files
[11:20] <kruqnut> i have windows xp and vista working properly, just linux wont boot yet(im booted up on the live CD right now)
[11:20] <trixon> HI, I've installed Ubuntu after Pardus. How do I remove the label PARDUS_HOME from my /home partition?
[11:20] <ompaul> b14ck, cd .ssh; scp id_rsapub <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/`whoami`/.ssh/.    <<<< exactly like that
[11:21] <Roham> Enselic: ok... weird the hosts on my laptop has the exact same config as on my stationary ... except for host name
[11:21] <mnemo> hey, mu ubuntu has "trackerd" program running... does that submit data to canonical??
[11:21] <b14ck> ompaul: ok
[11:21] <b14ck> ompaul: done
[11:21] <Enselic> Roham: what does /etc/hosts look like on the stationary?
[11:21] <ompaul> b14ck, ssh <IP_ADDRESS>  << exactly like that
[11:22] <xeer> is there a way to make textbox's select and move the cursor ala windows?
[11:22] <Gecko> Hey there. Can anyone who run ubuntu on a LVM root fs please /msg me a sample of their kernel statement of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:22] <keineahnung> hello
[11:22] <b14ck> ompaul, i dont have to do ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:22] <keineahnung> can somebody help me with my network printer samsung clp300n
[11:22] <ompaul> b14ck, no if the user is the same
[11:22] <SOja> hello fellas
[11:22] <Roham> Enselic: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> ROHI
[11:22] <keineahnung> i connected the printer on my fritzbox
[11:23] <b14ck> still doesnt work
[11:23] <kruqnut> lala
[11:23] <keineahnung> ethernet port
[11:23] <Roham> Enselic: laptop = <IP_ADDRESS> localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> ROHlaptop
[11:23] <McMadd> morning
[11:23] <Enselic> Roham: right, so how did you think the stationary is going to know about the laptop then?
[11:23] <ompaul> b14ck, I use this thing day in day out and set new staff up whenever they arrive and add services so this is my bread and butter
[11:23] <keineahnung> but i don't know how i can config. my printer by ubuntu
[11:23] <ompaul> b14ck, did you try that ssh <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[11:23] <b14ck> ompaul: idk. maybe my server is messed up
[11:23] <b14ck> yes i did
[11:23] <ompaul> b14ck, did it let you in?
[11:24] <Enselic> Roham: add a line  <ip-of-laptop> ROHI-laptop  to /etc/hosts on ROHI-stationary, to be able to do stuff like   ping ROHI-laptop   on the stationary
[11:24] <IBG> !grub
[11:24] <b14ck> ompaul: does my server computer need to have the hostname of the computer whose keys im giving it to statically assigned in /etc/hosts?
[11:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:24] <Enselic> Roham: vice versa on the laptop
[11:24] <Roham> Enselic: ok... but i f the ip changes I need to change the ip there to...
[11:24] <Enselic> Roham: yes
[11:24] <xeer> when moving the text cursor in a textbox, is there a way to have it select to the next slash, as it does the spaces?
[11:24] <Enselic> Roham: that's a idfferent prolbem though
[11:24] <Enselic> Roham: why not use static IPs then?
[11:24] <qzio> hi! how do i find the apt-key for gutsy repos? (in my case, se.archive.ubuntu.com)
[11:25] <Roham> Enselic: hmm... yeah thats a solution
[11:25] <ompaul> b14ck, no hosts has nothing to do with it, and please answer my question the reason I ask it like I do is so I can get the response I need -- and again, does ssh <IP_ADDRESS> let you in?
[11:25] <b14ck> ompaul: no
[11:25] <Roham> Enselic: but I want dhcp if I have friend over... :P
[11:25] <ompaul> b14ck, then the usernames are not the same
[11:25] <Enselic> Roham: then use dhcp for the friend
[11:25] <xeer> okay i guess that question is never going to get answered.. how about a new one
[11:25] <Desolator_> can anybody tell me how to play DVDs on feisty? I followed the guide on the documentation but I'm missing a library, I forgot which
[11:26] <kruqnut> has anyone here used BootIT NG?
[11:26] <Enselic> Roham: static IPs and DHCP hosts on a network are not mutually exclusive
[11:26] <xeer> when using ubuntu with full volume i get crackling
[11:26] <banyunet> fxcgf
[11:26] <BBking> Desolator_: mplayer?
[11:26] <boogie> xeer: thats overdrive :)
[11:26] <ActySofts> I tried with gxine
[11:26] <McMadd> On feisty, I have a mounted share (GUI -> Connect to server, appears on the desktop). How can I access it from the shell? I can't find any mount point.
[11:26] <ActySofts> and it doesn't work
[11:26] <kruqnut> I need some help installing grub on my linux partition instead of MBR
[11:26] <Gecko> Can anyone who run ubuntu on a LVM root fs please /msg me a sample of their kernel statement in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[11:27] <ompaul> b14ck, now I have an idea
[11:27] <Roham> Enselic: but how come that my router can resolve the stationary but not the laptop?
[11:27] <xeer> boogie: yes, i can listen at the same volume level with windows and there wont be any distortion
[11:27] <Enselic> Roham: um, are you sure the router resolves the name?
[11:28] <Enselic> that would surpise m
[11:28] <boogie> xeer: windows audio system != linux audio system
[11:28] <ompaul> b14ck, did ssh <IP_ADDRESS> ask for a password, we would expect that it would
[11:28] <xeer> boogie: exactly. my point being there must be a driver issue
[11:29] <poloman> hello people , can we switch from ubuntu to windows without close our  ubuntu session? thank to your response
[11:29] <kruqnut> can someone help me please?
[11:29] <xeer> boogie: i
[11:29] <Roham> Enselic: yes...
[11:29] <Enselic> poloman: run windows in e.g. VMware
[11:29] <xeer> boogie: i'm using technics headphones.. it's shameful for it to hear this noise
[11:29] <Roham> Enselic: for the laptop is just a " - "
[11:29] <poloman> ENSELIc/// ok THANKS
[11:29] <Chillout2k7> Hey all. Ubuntu convertee here, so please excuse the newbness. How do execute a program from terminal without tying it up? Like in a separate thread?
[11:29] <defrysk> <-- sennheiser
[11:30] <ompaul> Chillout2k7, programname &
[11:30] <sauvin> xeer, do you have a mixer?
[11:30] <Enselic> Roham: how can the router know about the stationary name?
[11:30] <boogie> xeer: thats no driver issue - its normal - cause alsa talks different than windows audio to your hardware.
[11:30] <Chillout2k7> ompaul, Perfect! Thanks!
[11:30] <Enselic> Chillout2k7: add a & after the command
[11:30] <Enselic> Chillout2k7: or, type  Ctrl + z and then  bg
[11:31] <Enselic> Chillout2k7: if you already are running the program
[11:31] <xeer> sauvin: i'm using a ALSA mixer in analog mode, HDA ULI M5461
[11:31] <Chillout2k7> Enselic, Ok, I'll try that as well
[11:31] <sauvin> Try turning down PCM.
[11:31] <boogie> xeer: just set master to a middle value and everything should be ok
[11:31] <Enselic> Chillout2k7: google for job management on linux or something and you should get a bunch of good hits
[11:31] <ompaul> Chillout2k7, if you require to use it type fg and to as Enselic said if you want to move it to the background later
[11:31] <ActySofts> what is the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" ?
[11:31] <McMadd> On feisty, I have a mounted share (GUI -> Connect to server, appears on the desktop). How can I access it from the shell? I can't find any mount point.
[11:31] <ompaul> ActySofts, take out the config files also
[11:31] <ActySofts> oh
[11:31] <boogie> and don't forget to turn up PCM
[11:32] <Chillout2k7> Ok, thanks a bunch. I'll google the rest now that I know what to look for =)
[11:32] <xeer> boogie: master at middle provides the overdrive still, not as intense, but still noticable.. and i can hardly hear anything
[11:32] <ferronica> How to replace "home folder icon" from icon theme Linsta?
[11:32] <Roham> Enselic: no idea
[11:32] <hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> I am Ahmed from Egypt and I want to learn your possible
[11:33] <hans_> hello al
[11:33] <sauvin> I think I'd rather just give you my improbable.
[11:33] <hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> hi
[11:33] <Pinky> again: I have no sound. I have two sound cards, one is X-fi and the other is the card that came with a p5n32-e
[11:33] <boogie> xeer: what audio player do you use?
[11:34] <Enselic> Roham: answer: it doesn't :) it's not the routher that resolves the names for ya
[11:34] <xeer> boogie: VLC media player
[11:34] <binanet> ferronica : use alacarte
[11:34] <boogie> xeer: at full volume right?
[11:34] <ferronica> binanet: where it is
[11:34] <poingg> hi
[11:34] <xeer> boogie: correct
[11:35] <binanet> ferronica : alt f2 type alacarte
[11:35] <sauvin> Actually, WHAAT are you playing? I get some really distortiony mp3's, but it occurs to me that movies I play from mplayer render sound beautifully.
[11:35] <boogie> xeer: turn down vlc volume to some what 1/3 of possible value and turn up you mixer settings
[11:35] <Amaranth> binanet: that's not what alacarte is for
[11:35] <ferronica> binanet: ya Amarnath is right
[11:35] <binanet> yes but it do the job changging icon on the menu list
[11:35] <poingg> !hi
[11:35] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:36] <poingg> !hi | poingg
[11:36] <xeer> sauvin: mostly electronics.. bass heavy mixes that go down to around 10 or so hertz, my headphones do 5hz
[11:36] <xeer> s/electronics/electronica
[11:36] <boogie> xeer: vlc always makes noise if volume is louder 33%.
[11:36] <boogie> +than
[11:36] <sauvin> but, I mean, are they MP3?
[11:36] <xeer> boogie: i see, i'll try that
[11:36] <kruqnut> can someone help me with installing grub to a partition instead of my MBR?
[11:37] <xeer> sauvin: i've only noticed it in mp3, havn't paid attention in ogg
[11:37] <sauvin> You might have better luck with ogg, and you probably really WOULD enjoy flac.
[11:37] <Pinky> sound issues
[11:38] <McMadd> Again: On feisty, I have a mounted share (GUI -> Connect to server, appears on the desktop). How can I access it from the shell? I can't find any mount point.
[11:38] <Enselic> Hello, how do I make modprobe use my newly compiled /lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko instead of the old /lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko?
[11:38] <xeer> sauvin: oh yes, i love flac.. problem is i can't find anything in that format natively. re-encoding is not welcome
[11:39] <sauvin> Well, encoding to flac from mp3 doesn't make any sense.
[11:39] <askand> When I write my internal IP in firefox, I get to the apacheserver. When I wrtie my external IP, I get to the modems settings...why?
[11:40] <alloosh> hi, I want to be able to connect to my computer from other machines, what do I need to install?
[11:40] <xeer> sauvin, boogie: thanks for the support. i've got it working fine now
[11:40] <Pinky> Enselic: sounds like something i need
[11:40] <xeer> alloosh, use ssh?
[11:41] <sauvin> :)
[11:41] <alloosh> I have it install, but how do I activate it? Iam on kubuntu
[11:42] <xeer> to 'activate' you simply open a terminal and type: ssh <remoteuser>@<remotehost>
[11:43] <kruqnut> can anyone even hear me, is this channel moderated?
[11:43] <Enselic> OMG MY SOUND WORKS AFTER like 11 weeks of on and off attempts!! I am so happy omg omg!
[11:43] <Enselic> Pinky: just sudo rm it and sudo depmod
[11:43] <Enselic> sudo rm the ubuntu one, that is
[11:44] <ompaul> kruqnut, type up your real question and then .. we can see if there are answers for your question
[11:44] <ferronica> ubuntu 7.04 GNOME  support ASUS Striker Extreme mainboard ??
[11:44] <kruqnut> My question is how do i reinstall grub to the first sector of my linux partition so that i can boot it from my bootloader
[11:44] <shriphani> well does anyone know how to decrease the font size of the virtual console.
[11:44] <kruqnut> so i can triple boot my system
[11:44] <booster> hey guys....when i try to run as root on my system i get an error that says su: Authentication failure
[11:45] <ompaul> !grub > kruqnut (please check the message from ubotu - it has all the good grub info)
[11:45] <kruqnut> !grub
[11:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:45] <sauvin> booster, there is no formal root account in the same way you would expect from other distros.
[11:45] <alloosh> well I dont see the ssh in the services, so Iam not sure how to add it there
[11:45] <ompaul> kruqnut, you have that in a pm from the bot - you don't need to repeat it in the channel :_)
[11:45] <sauvin> There IS a working sudo. Do you really require fulltime root access?
[11:45] <reloop> hi, any secuirty holes in current ubuntu packages? i ask this because it seems that i have a t0rn rootkit on my server.
[11:46] <ompaul> !root > booster (please check pm from bot)
[11:46] <ompaul> reloop, not that we know of, what version are you running and are you patched and up to date?
[11:47] <reloop> omapul: i run ubuntu 7.04 and i apt-get update && apt-get upgrade nearly everyday.
[11:47] <reloop> ompaul
[11:47] <ompaul> reloop, I don't know of any, so the question is why do you think you have t0rn on it
[11:48] <sauvin> Upgrades never break anything?
[11:48] <reloop> because rkhunter says it and i got all the files, which indicate t0rn, on my system :((
[11:48] <McMadd> Again: On feisty, I have a mounted share (GUI -> Connect to server, appears on the desktop). How can I access it from the shell? I can't find any mount point.
[11:49] <reloop> ompaul, only service im running is sshd behind knockd
[11:50] <McMadd> Apparently my question/solution is not as easy as I hoped
[11:50] <reloop> ompaul, i powered it down for now. i try to get there today to have a look what's going on.
[11:50] <ompaul> reloop, so you are suggesting that there is a problem with one/ both of those =-- let me look at that tool
[11:50] <badazz> Me a newbee so can someone cewl dude/dudess help me to get stuff goin here?
[11:50] <reloop> ompaul, yes
[11:50] <badazz> ;)
[11:51] <reloop> ompaul, i use rkhunter .13 beta from cvs
[11:51] <gordonjcp> !english | badazz
[11:51] <ubotu> badazz: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:52] <badazz> I need to get Adobe Reader workin in Feisty Fawn with the Firefox addon
[11:52] <ompaul> reloop, name some of the packages you "have" that are problems?
[11:52] <ompaul> reloop, you can say it in a pm or via pastebin
[11:53] <HyperCity> does anyone know where are stored settings for the desklets? i can't find any .desklets folder in my home
[11:53] <sauvin> Why do you need Adobe Reader?
[11:54] <yu_aider> does anybody know the cause of USB stopping working after some time
[11:54] <badazz> I know... n00bish, but it the prints doesent work with the others
[11:54] <kruqnut> woohoo
[11:54] <kruqnut> great success
[11:54] <kruqnut> ubuntu loaded :)
[11:54] <kruqnut> bootit NG rocks :)
[11:54] <McMadd> Well, let me try another question than. What system does Feisty use to mount shares? (Connect to server)
[11:55] <gordonjcp> McMadd: depends on what you're mounting
[11:55] <McMadd> smb
[11:55] <badazz> Me have been a MS l00sa for years, but UBUNTU just kicksss
[11:55] <gordonjcp> well you can either use smbmount and make a "real" mount, or you can just use gnome-vfs
[11:55] <McMadd> gordonjcp: Did you see my initial question?
[11:56] <gordonjcp> McMadd: not really, because I've not long woken up
[11:56] <gordonjcp> let me scroll back
[11:56] <gordonjcp> ah yes
[11:56] <gordonjcp> right well what you want to do is use smbmount instead of gnome-vfs
[11:58] <badazz> Me old, old, old laptop a Compaq Armada 700 waz on the way out in the trash, but with Ubuntu, its a new world to explore ;)
[11:58] <hafizan> hello
[11:58] <GameMX> oO
[11:58] <McMadd> gordonjcp: was afraid of that but using smbmount and nfs has not provided a usable share. I can only see the listings but not access any files :-(
[11:58] <hafizan> have anyone try ubuntu 7.10  lenovo notebook
[11:58] <gordonjcp> McMadd: probably a permissions issue
[11:58] <McMadd> Through gnome-vfs it works flawlessly
[11:59] <hafizan> my sound driver fail
[11:59] <hafizan> anybody can help?
[11:59] <hafizan> i have compile the latest alsa
[11:59] <badazz> I had to many beers yesterday so i fail today :)
[11:59] <McMadd> gordonjcp: guests should have rw by default... works from windows and gnome vsf
[12:00] <gordonjcp> McMadd: hmm
[12:00] <gordonjcp> McMadd: give me a sec
[12:00] <McMadd> also smbclient with root credentials gave the smae result
[12:00] <hav0ck> Hello all !
[12:01] <McMadd> s/smae/same/
[12:01] <morpheus_> i need to split an iso file in ubuntu and re-join it in windoze, whats the best package?
[12:01] <sauvin> A usb stic.
[12:01] <gordonjcp> McMadd: seen this? http://www.mattvanstone.com/2006/06/automatically_mounting_smb_sha/
[12:01] <badazz> HAH
[12:02] <morpheus_> server is an old ML370.....no USB
[12:02] <sauvin> GAR. I don't know any file chunkers.
[12:02] <Gaaston> the "split" command?
[12:03] <badazz> heheh, try using a USB stick to get ya file over to windows
[12:03] <McMadd> gordonjcp: tried a similar tutorial but I'll give it another go. It's obviously a problem on my side.
[12:04] <sauvin> yea... split looks good. The Windows machine could then just do the COPY this+that+other or whatever Windows does...
[12:04] <sauvin> It's stupid that Windows has no cat command.
[12:04] <Gaaston> eh :/
[12:05] <Xman> can anyone tell any channel for web problems i can't open a site
[12:05] <BoSJo> !help
[12:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:05] <Gaaston> sauvin> it looks to be possible with the "copy" command in windows
[12:05] <sauvin> Oh, it's possible, just not nearly as easy as with linux.
[12:06] <Gaaston> copy file1.dat /B + file2.dat /B + file3.dat /B resultfile.dat
[12:06] <Gaaston> not too hard i think ;)
[12:06] <shay_cyber> hello all , i have a ubuntu 7.04 32 bit version , i have installed 8g of ram but the ubuntu recognize only 3.2 gb of ram (i checked on the computer bios and there is ok - recongnize 8g) what should i do ?
[12:07] <morpheus_> ok, gonna try that, thanks :)
[12:07] <Xman> can anyone tell any channel for web problems i can't open a web site?
[12:07] <sauvin> too much typing. When I download something that comes in a .part1 .part2 .part3 .... format and it comes with a .bat to do that, in linux, I just cat *.part* > resultfile.dat
[12:07] <Frogzoo> shay_cyber: use the big_iron kernel
[12:08] <sauvin> Make yourself an ISO of cygwin and take THAT to your Windows machine!
[12:08] <Gaaston> sauvin> of course, cat is more (advanced) user friendly
[12:08] <shay_cyber> what is the "big_iron kernel" ?
[12:08] <alti> hi
[12:08] <sauvin> It's a "little_iron" kernel with a few extra rivets.
[12:09] <alti> how can I add a additional loopbackadapter?
[12:09] <shay_cyber> from where i can download it ? (with installion steps)
[12:09] <BernardB> What does this mean, It appears after every apt-get install
[12:09] <BernardB> sh: cannot open /usr/share/app-install/channels/openftd.list.template: No such file
[12:09] <BernardB> sh: cannot open /usr/share/app-install/channels/openftd.list: No such file
[12:09] <BernardB> E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'sed -e s/@RELEASE@/`lsb_release -sc`/ < /usr/share/app-install/channels/openftd.list.template > /usr/share/app-install/channels/openftd.list; test -e /etc/apt/sources.list.d/openftd.list && sed -e s/@RELEASE@/`lsb_release -sc`/ < /usr/share/app-install/channels/openftd.list > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/openftd.list'
[12:09] <BernardB> E: Sub-process returned an error code
[12:10] <sauvin> BernardB, are you running apt-get as root?
[12:10] <BernardB> yes sudo apt-get
[12:11] <sauvin> Bleah. I can't help with that except with the unhelpful observation that your package manager's database appears to be a bit bewonked.
[12:11] <BernardB> I probably messed it up myself.
[12:12] <sauvin> What did you do?
[12:12] <BernardB> I don't know anymore.
[12:12] <shay_cyber> from where i can get "big_uieb kernel" ? does it coming built-in with the ubuntu ?
[12:12] <BernardB> I'll reinstall it
[12:12] <shay_cyber> big_iron kernel
[12:12] <shay_cyber> (fixing
[12:12] <BernardB> I was planning it already.
[12:12] <uptownben> Hi all. I've been trying to figure out how to fix this problem. I have an RT61 wireless pcmcia card in my notebook. If the network is idle for a few minutes the card shuts down and the machine locks up.
[12:13] <sauvin> Shay, were you the one asking about a big iron kernel?
[12:13] <shay_cyber> yes
[12:13] <shay_cyber> yes sauvin
[12:13] <sauvin> what comnputer do you have?
[12:13] <LLcoolM> is it possible to run ubuntu with fluxbox?
[12:13] <LLcoolM> without having to install all the kde/gnome/xfce stuff?
[12:13] <kruqnut> Bah!
[12:13] <kruqnut> ok so i had ubuntu running
[12:13] <kruqnut> and i went to change the resolution
[12:13] <shay_cyber> p4 conro 1.86g (8g of ram)
[12:13] <joeaverage> !linux
[12:13] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:14] <kruqnut> and it made me install nvidia drivers
[12:14] <kruqnut> now X ser4ver wont boot because of the nvidia drivers
[12:14] <joeaverage> !ubotu
[12:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:14] <nephish> is it dangerous to have a nfs share set to chmod 777 if that port is closed off to the internet via firestarter ?
[12:14] <kruqnut> how to i get the X server to work again?
[12:14] <ompaul> !nvidia | kruqnut
[12:14] <ubotu> kruqnut: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:14] <BernardB> Huh? Have you intalled sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx? kruqnut ?
[12:14] <sauvin> Shay, I've heard that 32-bit linux has trouble with RAM greater than 2 GB. I don't remember a P4 as being 64-bit.
[12:14] <kruqnut> well i had ubuntu running
[12:15] <kruqnut> then i went to change the resolution
[12:15] <kruqnut> and it made me download and install nvidia drivers
[12:15] <kruqnut> so it finished and i rebooted
[12:15] <uptownben> I am using an IBM thinkpad x24 notebook.
[12:15] <sauvin> However, you CAN NOT use a "big iron" kernel. You don't WANT to know how many ZIP codes you'd have to buy just to house a big iron computer.
[12:15] <shay_cyber> about the 32 bit linux .. how can u fix that problem of ram ?
[12:15] <kruqnut> then X server gave an error like Nvidia drivers can't load, pretty much
[12:15] <Alloosh> hi, where can I view my computer services to be able to allow ssh?
[12:15] <kruqnut> so now im back on the LIVE CD
[12:15] <joeaverage> !linux | me
[12:15] <ubotu> me: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:15] <ompaul> kruqnut, you just repeated yourself and you were given the url for it
[12:16] <sauvin> shay_cyber, I can't, and I'm not 100% confident that what I said was true. Ask around.
[12:16] <shay_cyber> ok
[12:16] <kruqnut> i know i went there and it gives me the same drivers i just installed that caused X not to work
[12:16] <sauvin> What I DO know is that you DO NOT have a big iron.
[12:18] <MilesAway> hay i need a boot floppy
[12:18] <MilesAway> with chroot
[12:18] <hav0ck> Hi all can i post here my problem ?
[12:18] <MilesAway> any suggestions?
[12:19] <indio99> hola
[12:20] <indio99> hablan espaol por aqu ???
[12:20] <kruqnut> how do i set the X server to load the default drivers?
[12:20] <ompaul> !es | indio99
[12:20] <ubotu> indio99: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:20] <shay_cyber> does someone know how much RAM can the 32 bit versions support on AMD64 hardware ?
[12:20] <indio99> ok thanks
[12:20] <MilesAway> linux is like 3 and a half gigs
[12:21] <sauvin> amd64!? why didn't you SAY so? You CAN run a 64-bit ubuntu!
[12:21] <indio99> #ubuntu-es
[12:21] <binanet> kruqnut : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:21] <hav0ck> dpkg --purge clvm <-- error
[12:21] <hav0ck> dpkg -i clvm <-- error
[12:21] <hav0ck> apt-get -f remove clvm <--error
[12:21] <hav0ck> apt-get -f remove <--error
[12:21] <hav0ck> apt-get -f install clvm <-error
[12:21] <hav0ck> apt-get -f install <--error   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:21] <indio99> perdon como entro en el canal #ubuntu-es ??? ???
[12:21] <sauvin> What the frack?
[12:21] <sauvin> Indio, have you registered your nick with nickserv?
[12:21] <ompaul> indio99,     /join #ubuntu-es
[12:21] <shay_cyber> sauvin (the problem i dont want re-install ubuntu again)
[12:22] <shay_cyber> can ubuntu can be upgrade ?
[12:22] <shay_cyber> from 32 bit to 64 bit ?
[12:22] <kruqnut> thanks bina ill try that
[12:22] <indio99> ompaul, ok thanks
[12:22] <hav0ck> dpkg --purge clvm <-- error
[12:22] <hav0ck> dpkg -i clvm <-- error
[12:22] <hav0ck> apt-get -f remove clvm <--error
[12:22] <hav0ck> apt-get -f remove <--error
[12:22] <hav0ck> apt-get -f install clvm <-error
[12:22] <hav0ck> apt-get -f install <--error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) help me plz !!!
[12:22] <sauvin> that, I can't answer, shay_cyber, I have an AMD64 myself but won't go 64-bit because of issues with things like flash.
[12:23] <ompaul> hav0ck, don't paste and maybe, sudo apt-get remove -- purge clvm ; apt-get install clvm works for you
[12:24] <ompaul> shay_cyber, don't even try it if you are using a desktop - it is more suited to big databases - not desktops
[12:25] <ompaul> shay_cyber, you won't get speed up you as a human would notice
[12:25] <sauvin> ompaul, can you confirm or deny that linux has a tough time with machines having more than 2 gigs of ram?
[12:26] <ompaul> sauvin, I can say it does not, you need to set some triggers for more than 4 gigs
[12:26] <sauvin> triggers?
[12:26] <ompaul> sauvin, if you go to that level tell the kernel what you have, but even that may be fixed at this stage
[12:26] <gnuskool> can i change an ext3 partition to ext2 without destroying the data?if so with what?
[12:27] <pawan1234> hi
[12:27] <sauvin> In other words, by the time I get a laptop with four gigs in it, and install a new linux, the problem won't still be there, probably?
[12:27] <pawan1234> what is the latest version of ubuntu
[12:27] <ompaul> sauvin, yeap
[12:27] <gnuskool> can i change an ext3 partition to ext2 without destroying the data?if so with what?
[12:27] <ompaul> pawan1234, release is 7.04 and beta is 7.10
[12:28] <variant> no matter what I do, emerald-theme-manager starts on login. I have removed all mention of it that I can find and removed it from session manager but it still starts! any tips?
[12:29] <gnuskool> can i change an ext3 partition to ext2 without destroying the data?if so with what?
[12:29] <variant> gnuskool: yes, ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2. just disable the journal and it is ext2
[12:29] <joeaverage> !ssh
[12:29] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:29] <chuxxsss> hi all
[12:30] <ompaul> gnuskool, that would be a bad move from a data integrity perspective, ext3 works much better, and please stop repeating, it can be done, and is well documented, but I won't give you any more information than that -- back up your data before you even think any more about it
[12:30] <variant> gnuskool: use E2fsprogs
[12:31] <variant> gnuskool: there is nothing dangerous about it. it's simply to disable the journal. as ompaul said though, ext2 is not as good as ext3 when it comes to integrity
[12:31] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'The system call of this name' in man 2 syslog > DESCRIPTION : "If you need the libc function syslog(), (that talks to syslogd(8)), then look at syslog(3). The system call of this name is about controlling the kernel printk() buffer, and the glibc version is called klogctl()."
[12:32] <kruqnut> !nvidia
[12:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:33] <hmpedersen> Hello all
[12:33] <Johto> hello
[12:34] <hmpedersen> Well.. With a bit of luck, I should soon be able to use Ubuntu again..
[12:34] <hmpedersen> Once it's done installing that is..
[12:34] <Johto> there is no such thing as "luck" :D
[12:34] <hmpedersen> You are quite right, Johto Kenobi..
[12:34] <Johto> :)
[12:35] <Sergemine> Guys, Dear Ubuntu/Linux GURUs, what is your favourite KDE download manager? or best KDE/Gnome download manager. 'Cause the symple yet good KGET takes 120% of my CPU !! PLS suggest a good one
[12:35] <ZAKhan> what is the best and easy way top install windows xp under feisty ?
[12:35] <hmpedersen> How on earth did you know, I've been working on some new added songs in an attempt to get a live stage performance of Star Wars the Musical up?
[12:35] <pawan1234> where to get games for ubuntu
[12:36] <Johto> hmpedersen: lol
[12:36] <ompaul> pawan1234, system - administration - synaptic package manager ; search for games
[12:36] <hmpedersen> :P
[12:36] <jonathant> how can i define a variable as root in a script alongside other commands?
[12:36] <hmpedersen> Trying to add some more inbetween certain parts.. Can't have them go directly from the control room into the trash compactor...
[12:36] <gnuskool> variant, thanks
[12:36] <jonathant> ive tried "su -c "chmod o+r -R /home/$CBA && $ABC='Complete'"" but that doesnt work
[12:36] <gnuskool> ompaul, thanks
[12:36] <ompaul> hmpedersen, you are slightly offtopic
[12:37] <hmpedersen> ompaul, I know..
[12:37] <pawan1234> any site
[12:37] <Johto> hmpedersen: too much star wars, dont worry about these weak minded fools :P
[12:38] <ompaul> pawan1234, here is how you do it >> system - administration - synaptic package manager ; search for games
[12:38] <pawan1234> i want a particular site
[12:38] <hmpedersen> pawan1234, I'll try find some good games that works for ubuntu when I'm done installing
[12:38] <kruqnut> how do i make the filesystem writeable?
[12:38] <kruqnut> as in, my root partition
[12:38] <ompaul> pawan1234, that will list games several hundred of them
[12:38] <Johto> hmpedersen: hmm, games and linux is not the best combination :)
[12:38] <hmpedersen> Johto, oh but the force has a strong influence on the week minded..
[12:38] <ZAKhan> I am trying to install VMware server and its giving a lot of errors
[12:39] <hmpedersen> weak*
[12:39] <Alloosh> hi, how do I reach my ubuntu machine from xp machine and work on it?
[12:39] <ompaul> hmpedersen, you are offtopic, -please stop
[12:39] <cgw>
[12:39] <Johto> hmpedersen: about you installing ubuntu, do or do not, there is no try :)
[12:39] <ompaul> !cn | cgw
[12:39] <ubotu> cgw: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[12:39] <hmpedersen> Johto, unless you have the right hardware and utilities for running the games..
[12:39] <kruqnut> How can i make my file system writeable?
[12:40] <Johto> kruqnut: what?
[12:40] <kruqnut> well right now
[12:40] <hmpedersen> ompaul, I'm simply answering Johto..
[12:40] <Johto> kruqnut: what make you think its not ?
[12:40] <kruqnut> all my mounted partitions are read only
[12:40] <girl_nCe> hai knalan dong
[12:40] <kruqnut> the file system is read only
[12:40] <kruqnut> when i try to change it to read and write
[12:40] <kruqnut> it says i can't do that
[12:40] <Johto> kruqnut: ok, first thing  first, why is it read only?
[12:40] <ompaul> kruqnut, you are using the cd ?
[12:40] <kruqnut> no
[12:40] <Johto> kruqnut: you need to re-mount it with write flag
[12:40] <kruqnut> i just installed ubuntu
[12:41] <Johto> kruqnut: are you doing some weird system rescue or booted in single mode ?
[12:41] <girl_nCe> oh Im sory for u but i'm from indonesia
[12:41] <kruqnut> single mode?
[12:41] <Johto> kruqnut: thats the only time its "read only"
[12:41] <AeroStick> can i make the compiz fusion work with the restricted ati drivers?
[12:41] <kruqnut> i had to edit the cmd line to boot it
[12:41] <kruqnut> because its wrong in the boot file
[12:41] <ompaul> !compiz  | AeroStick
[12:41] <kruqnut> would that cause it?
[12:41] <ubotu> AeroStick: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:41] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, you did install it, right? Or are you on the live disc?
[12:41] <AeroStick> !compiz
[12:41] <Johto> kruqnut: so you are not booted normally, tell how you booted?
[12:41] <kruqnut> i installed it
[12:41] <kruqnut> when grub loaded
[12:41] <kruqnut> i hit e
[12:41] <ompaul> kruqnut, why?
[12:42] <kruqnut> and changed hd1,0 to hd0,0
[12:42] <kruqnut> then hit b
[12:42] <Johto> kruqnut: ok
[12:42] <kruqnut> to boot
[12:42] <bsh> hello all
[12:42] <Johto> kruqnut: then?
[12:42] <kruqnut> then it booted
[12:42] <Johto> kruqnut: and when does it says its read only?
[12:42] <kruqnut> when i click on properties
[12:42] <Johto> kruqnut: your ubuntu IS NOT bootin "ok" if its read onyl
[12:42] <Johto> kruqnut: click??
[12:43] <Johto> kruqnut: where and what user and what directory lol
[12:43] <tz> hallo
[12:43] <bsh> tz? :)
[12:43] <Johto> kruqnut: are you in graphical mode?
[12:43] <hmpedersen> Johto, I think we can assume that
[12:43] <tz> in deutschland
[12:43] <Johto> hmpedersen: just wanted to make SURE
[12:43] <kruqnut> yes
[12:43] <Johto> hmpedersen: sounds weird
[12:43] <kruqnut> im in graphical mode
[12:44] <hmpedersen> Johto, I perfectly agree with you..
[12:44] <kruqnut> im new to linux and don't know enough commands to do much fromt he prompts atm
[12:44] <Johto> kruqnut: and you do know that you should not even be writing outside normal user directory if you are not logged as root?
[12:44] <kruqnut> hmm
[12:44] <Johto> kruqnut: you do understand how unix filesystem works?
[12:44] <kruqnut> i can goto terminal and go root
[12:44] <Johto> kruqnut: ok
[12:44] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, I can tell you that I have encountered the problem once before.. That happened to be a faulty HDD..
[12:44] <kruqnut> but how do i go root in the graphical interface?
[12:44] <Johto> kruqnut: u dont
[12:44] <Migeru> Pleaseeeee, i need to install a printer in print server of USROBOTICS!
[12:44] <kruqnut> the hard drive works fine in vista and xp
[12:45] <kruqnut> so i can never access my files in the graphical interface?
[12:45] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, excuse me.. Vista?
[12:45] <Migeru> Hola
[12:45] <kruqnut> just for directx 10
[12:45] <v1k1ng> why do i hate xchat so much?
[12:45] <Johto> kruqnut: DONT use the system as "root"
[12:45] <v1k1ng> i want to like it
[12:45] <MortarMan> Hi , im stuck with installing , i tried to install Virtualbox and i didnt complete installation now it writes : E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:45] <Migeru> necesito ayuda
[12:46] <kruqnut> well how do i gain access to my system
[12:46] <Johto> kruqnut: are you new to linux in general?
[12:46] <hmpedersen> this is beyond my abilities.. Vista has always messed up everything for me.. Cleaned partition tables, restricting access to other OS' and so on..
[12:46] <Johto> kruqnut: what do youu mean by "my filesystem" ?
[12:46] <Migeru> spanish people?
[12:46] <kruqnut> well the partition i installed linux on is listed as "filesystem"
[12:46] <kruqnut> yes i am johto
[12:46] <Migeru> #ubuntu-es
[12:46] <Migeru> :S
[12:47] <kruqnut> ok i used the mount command
[12:47] <kruqnut> first line i see is
[12:47] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, what computer do you have
[12:47] <Johto> kruqnut: please read the basiscs of linux, so you understand better the hiararchy of the filesystem and file permissions and users ..
[12:47] <kruqnut> ./dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:47] <Johto> kruqnut: are you talking about your WINDOWS and other filesystem you see inside ubuntu's filesystem?
[12:47] <kruqnut> no im not
[12:47] <Johto> ok
[12:48] <kruqnut> windows and vista are on seperate hidden file systems
[12:48] <kruqnut> this is the linux filesystem that the OS is installed on
[12:48] <kruqnut> i also have 2 partitions for storage that show up
[12:48] <Johto> yes
[12:48] <kruqnut> but they are read only because they are NTFS and i haven't gotten around to enabling that yet
[12:48] <Johto> kruqnut: type "mount" and paste the line what says about the /dev/sda1 ...
[12:48] <kruqnut> i just did
[12:48] <kruqnut> ./dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:49] <Johto> kruqnut: oh, that tells it has ERRORS
[12:49] <kruqnut> thats my linux partition
[12:49] <Johto> kruqnut: ERRORS
[12:49] <kruqnut> yea i can read errors
[12:49] <[coca1ne] > kruqnut so you wanna have ntfs-partitions r/w ?
[12:49] <MortarMan> Hi , im stuck with installing , i tried to install Virtualbox and i didnt complete installation now it writes : E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.     I have package on desktop. What do i have to do ?
[12:49] <kruqnut> not right now caca1ne
[12:49] <Johto> kruqnut: so ok, you need to boot as single mode ...and do the filesystem check
[12:49] <kruqnut> how do i do that?
[12:49] <g0dd3ss> hi everyone I am running feisty on a toshiba laptop. when my wireless doesn't connect, applications take liek 5-10 seconds to load, (ie. terminal, firefox, gimp, pretty much anything), but after my wifi connects they load as normal. does anyone know how i can fix this
[12:49] <Johto> kruqnut: dont remember how with grub, use google to search ..
[12:49] <[coca1ne] > you need ntfs-3g or tools like this to enable write-mod on ntfs-filesystem-partitions
[12:50] <Johto> kruqnut: its weird because if it has errors, it should do that automaticly, doing hte filesystem check during the boot ..
[12:50] <Johto> kruqnut: anyways, no wonder its mounted as "read only", because it sees there are errors which are not yet "fixed"
[12:51] <hmpedersen> hmm.. My install is almost done..
[12:51] <kruqnut> well im during a weird triple boot using a boot loader
[12:51] <Johto> kruqnut: something weird is happening on your disk
[12:51] <jonathant> how can i define a variable using su -c
[12:51] <Johto> kruqnut: you have a nice mess..
[12:52] <kruqnut> i need to change the boot.lst file in order to boot without having to edit the command line every time
[12:52] <Johto> yeah
[12:52] <Migeru> encontre esto
[12:52] <Migeru> k. According to this and this, the IPP protocol used by USR print server is not the standard IPP protocol, but an "IPP-like" protocol designed to fit the one used in Microsoft products. In older versions of CUPS, a "bug" in the IPP protocol made it compatible with the "IPP-like" protocol of USR, but now that is corrected, therefore it is not compatible anymore...
[12:52] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, can you tell me which computer you have?
[12:52] <hafizan> hello
[12:52] <hafizan> anybody use lenovo notebook?
[12:52] <kruqnut> what do you mean?
[12:52] <Migeru> creo k solo va en windows :S
[12:52] <kruqnut> i made my computer myself
[12:52] <Makt> hello
[12:53] <Johto> kruqnut: mine root filesystem says like this (yeah its xfs, not ext3) : /dev/sda5 on / type xfs (rw)
[12:53] <kruqnut> ok once i get to single user mode
[12:53] <Makt> I was wondering if it is possible to run the Adobe softwares on ubuntu?
[12:53] <kruqnut> what do i do?
[12:53] <Johto> kruqnut: so you have weird rw and ro same time, lol
[12:53] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, then what kind of resources does it have
[12:53] <hafizan> my lenovo notenook didn't heard sound at all
[12:53] <kruqnut> athlon 64 3000+, geforce 8800gts, 2 gigs of ram, 320GB SATA drive
[12:53] <Johto> kruqnut: search google about grub single mode and ext3 filesystem check
[12:54] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, yes.. Plenty to try a different approach..
[12:54] <Johto> kruqnut: so you want to boot in single user mode, then use some command to do a filesystem check / repair on the /dev/sda1 which is in ext3 format
[12:55] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, If you for some reason should give up on running Ubuntu natively, you could have a look at vmware..
[12:55] <Johto> kruqnut: beausae you use triple boot manager and stuff, no wonder it gerts "weird" :D
[12:55] <Johto> kruqnut: gets pretty complex to follow :)
[12:55] <hmpedersen> Johto, that's my point exactly..
[12:56] <Johto> i have this 500gig disk all for ubuntu :)
[12:56] <Johto> no windows at all
[12:56] <kruqnut> im just trying to mess around with compiz-fusion :/
[12:56] <bony> why is it that i cant use mencoder? there seem's to be no such command?
[12:56] <kruqnut> anyways brb gonna try single mode
[12:56] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, I suggest you try reinstalling.. If that doesn't work, try installing vmware on XP (Not vista!) and install ubuntu there
[12:56] <Johto> second machine (my little server) runs debian, free from windows
[12:56] <Johto> kruqnut: uh
[12:56] <fivetwentysix_> How do I change my WIndows Manager to Fluxbox?
[12:56] <Makt> if someone has experience with running windows software on ubuntu please message me
[12:57] <Johto> kruqnut: meh
[12:57] <g0dd3ss> hi everyone I am running feisty on a toshiba laptop. when my wireless doesn't connect, applications take liek 5-10 seconds to load, (ie. terminal, firefox, gimp, pretty much anything), but after my wifi connects they load as normal. does anyone know how i can fix this
[12:57] <Johto> kruqnut: you are one of those "new to linux and wants only to use compiz..bleh"
[12:57] <BernardB> reinstalling ubuntu
[12:58] <zec> hello everyone
[12:58] <Johto> Makt: yuo have couple choices, use wine or a virtual machine solution...
[12:58] <zimnyx> `acpi -V` shows: "remaining <nothing here>". `cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state` says "present rate: 0 mA", isn't it a bug? buttery is discharging, but rate = 0mA...
[12:58] <fivetwentysix_> How do I change my WIndows Manager to Fluxbox?
[12:58] <Sevk> can you see this web:  vbs.net.cn
[12:59] <hmpedersen> brb
[12:59] <zec> Have a quick question - I've been having a lot of problems, and just want to reinstall windows xpand wipe out ubuntu; however, when I boot to the xp installation disk, an error comes up in the process "c0000221 unknown hard error \SystemRoot\System32\ntdll.dll", and the process stops right there.  Any ideas?
[12:59] <Johto> Sevk: yes
[12:59] <Sevk> :)
[12:59] <Makt> Johto: Well, I tried wine for some time ago when I was running Ubuntu and Debian, with no luck
[12:59] <Johto> Sevk: some japanice/china text
[12:59] <Johto> Sevk: black background
[12:59] <Sevk> yes
[12:59] <Johto> ok
[12:59] <Makt> but that was years ago
[12:59] <Loopies> hello!
[01:00] <Ubuntu> hello
[01:00] <Sevk> it is a vista cracker's web
[01:00] <Ubuntu> huh
[01:00] <Johto> Makt: ok, you could try vmware-server, then you can use whoel windows inside ubuntu, of course no games but normal programs (non 3d( works ok
[01:00] <Ubuntu> lol
[01:00] <Ubuntu> VM;s
[01:00] <Ubuntu> :D
[01:00] <Loopies> Holy cow am I up a creek... I am trying to get a network running and am completely lost ... I don't seem to have an "eth0"
[01:00] <Sevk> :)
[01:00] <Loopies> I am running Feisty
[01:00] <Ubuntu> virtualbox is good too
[01:00] <Johto> yeah
[01:00] <Ubuntu> im running feisty too
[01:00] <Makt> hm
[01:00] <zec> could someone give me a little help on how to reinstall xp, and wipe out ubuntu?
[01:01] <Ubuntu> hey can anyone tell me when u update and u get the kernel update
[01:01] <zec> I really couldn't find that much on the forums about the topic
[01:01] <Ubuntu> i got 2.20.16 and 2.20.15
[01:01] <Ubuntu> which one should i be booting into plse
[01:01] <Johto> Loopies: /etc/network/interfaces <-- tell me what u see
[01:01] <Makt> hm, well all software I need is the whole adobe package, school related. what about win4lin?
[01:01] <Ubuntu> and i lost sound on both kernels now
[01:01] <foad_> Can anyone help me with XGL plz ?
[01:01] <Sevk> how to copy other's name to send ?
[01:01] <foad_> i have a smaller problem and it looks like this http://peecee.dk/index.php?lid=1&aid=1&pid=2&loadid=66975&noresize=yes
[01:02] <Johto> zec: LOL
[01:02] <Johto> zec: HAAHAA! :D
[01:02] <zec> would I need to un-partition first, before I reinstall xp?
[01:02] <Loopies> well, first things first:  I didn't have a net work when I had Edgy and it worked fine.  But I had automatix and decided I wanted to get rid of it, so I upgrade (a clean install) with Feisty and my interent worked for a few days or so on and off, now it doesn't work at all.  So I think I need to fix that before I get my network working.
[01:02] <Johto> zec: no, just boot the windows xp disk, and whipe the "unknown" partition and go from there...
[01:02] <Johto> partitiotns..
[01:02] <zec> johto: where is the "wipe" utliity ?!
[01:03] <Johto> zec: no, i just meant wheny you go through the windows xp "setup"
[01:03] <Johto> zec: partition stuff..
[01:03] <kruqnut> well i booted to single mode, and i couldn't unmount the drive
[01:03] <zec> johto: setup brought up error c0000221
[01:03] <kruqnut> said device was busy
[01:03] <[swb] > I just stirred my coffee with the wrong end of a pen
[01:03] <[swb] > :(
[01:03] <Johto> zec: huh?
[01:03] <[swb] > I am drinking it anyway, I hope its not poisonous
[01:03] <Psychomethod> hey guys, can someone please give me a link to a site where the clamav terminal commands are listed? i cant do a hell of a lot with the gui front end cause i need persmission
[01:03] <Loopies> johto it says "no such file or directory:
[01:03] <zec> it said "unknown hard error \SystemRoot\System32\ntdll.dll"
[01:04] <Johto> Loopies: oh you have a bigger problem then :S
[01:04] <Johto> Loopies: what network card you have?
[01:04] <zegevrijtt> hello. i have a sata disk and it insits on becoming sda instead of b or c no matter if it is on secondary or not and others on primary .. how is this possible????? and how can i change it
[01:04] <Loopies> it is integrated.
[01:04] <Loopies> so I'm not sure
[01:04] <kruqnut> so when i tried to run the FS check, it said running a FS check on a mounted device will cause severe damage to the filesystem
[01:04] <zec> johto: any help?!
[01:04] <Johto> zec: that doesnt have to do anytiung with unbuntu !
[01:04] <foad_> I need help to make my XGL work right .. here is a screen of my problem : http://peecee.dk/index.php?lid=1&aid=1&pid=2&loadid=66975&noresize=yes
[01:04] <Loopies> I'll google to see if I can find it
[01:04] <Loopies> johto
[01:04] <zec> oi vey....
[01:04] <AnRkey> Psychomethod, u need sudo permission for the cli version too
[01:04] <Johto> zec: your disk is broken or something other in hardware
[01:04] <zec> johto: so, I'm stuck, then?
[01:04] <Johto> zec: yeah, basicly, lol
[01:04] <zec> ouch
[01:04] <zec> ok
[01:05] <Johto> zec: seems like a read-error from the disk?
[01:05] <kruqnut> so why can't i unmount the filesystem? because it is the filesystem?
[01:05] <zec> um, well... I guess
[01:05] <Johto> zec: or somehting other weird, bar ram or broken hardware...
[01:05] <Psychomethod> thats ok, i can use sudo for the cli
[01:05] <foad_> I need help to make my XGL work right .. here is a screen of my problem : http://peecee.dk/index.php?lid=1&aid=1&pid=2&loadid=66975&noresize=yes
[01:05] <Johto> zec: make sure and run memtest86 from ubuntu disk..u see if your ram is ok
[01:05] <Psychomethod> i dont know how to "sudo" in the gui thats all lol
[01:05] <Johto> kruqnut: its hosed
[01:05] <zegevrijtt> what desides which disks becomes hd sda or b .. how can i change it
[01:05] <Ubuntu> too many people at once here !!
[01:06] <Johto> kruqnut: u have mad a boob oo
[01:06] <AnRkey> Psychomethod, are you using clamtk?
[01:06] <kruqnut> what is hosed?
[01:06] <Johto> kruqnut: boob boo :D
[01:06] <Johto> kruqnut: loll
[01:06] <Ubuntu> LOL!
[01:06] <kruqnut> suggested course of action?
[01:06] <S> im trying to set up squid/dansguardian/iptables.....im getting error iptables v1.3.6: Bad OWNER UID value `squid'
[01:06] <kruqnut> reinstall ubuntu?
[01:06] <zec> johto: would it be good if I used microsoft's msdos "emergency repair option"? does that sound like what I'm looking for?
[01:06] <Ubuntu> ubunto!
[01:06] <Johto> kruqnut: yes, re.install from cratch
[01:06] <hmpedersen> kruqnut, I suggest vmware on XP to solve it..
[01:06] <foad_> I need help to make my XGL work right .. here is a screen of my problem : http://peecee.dk/index.php?lid=1&aid=1&pid=2&loadid=66975&noresize=yes   - When i start the XGL season it looks like that .. i have been following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl           Anybody plz help ?
[01:06] <Psychomethod> yes, but im trying to learn the cli commands, because clamtk dont let me do anything without being su
[01:06] <kruqnut> ok ill give that a shot
[01:06] <kruqnut> cmware?
[01:06] <S> im trying to set up squid/dansguardian/iptables.....im getting error iptables v1.3.6: Bad OWNER UID value `squid'
[01:06] <Johto> zec: no
[01:06] <kruqnut> err vmware?
[01:06] <zec> johto: why not?
[01:06] <foad_> kruqnut: was that to me ?
[01:06] <Ubuntu> zec
[01:07] <Ubuntu> zec ?
[01:07] <S> \\undernet
[01:07] <hmpedersen> kruwnut, virtual machine... vmware.com
[01:07] <kruqnut> no, nm
[01:07] <AnRkey> Psychomethod, edit the launcher/shortcut for ClamTK and ad gksudo in before the clamtk
[01:07] <S> \undernet
[01:07] <Psychomethod> ahh ok ty
[01:07] <AnRkey> Psychomethod, then it will prompt for a sudo password when u run it
[01:07] <BoSJo> Hi all. This is not Ubuntu spesifik, but i guess you guys would know the answer. What is the command to log in via Telnet as root (Yes i know you shouldent do that, but i need to as ssh is refused)
[01:07] <zec> Is ubuntu a user? or a system bot thing?
[01:07] <Johto> zec: first thing first, it seems your hardware is acting up(broken) because your windows disk has read error ...so check your HARDWARE, by running memtest86 from the ubuntu disk. then make sure the cd/dvd-drive is ok, the windows xp dis isnt scratched ...
[01:07] <foad_> I need help to make my XGL work right .. here is a screen of my problem : http://peecee.dk/index.php?lid=1&aid=1&pid=2&loadid=66975&noresize=yes   - When i start the XGL season it looks like that .. i have been following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl           Anybody plz help ?
[01:08] <zec> memtest86?
[01:08] <zec> sudo memtest86?
[01:08] <Johto> zec: use google
[01:08] <zec> oh
[01:08] <zec> k
[01:08] <Loopies> johto I did lsmod and I can't seem to find what network card I have
[01:08] <Ubuntu> yep
[01:08] <Johto> zec: its already on the live-cd
[01:08] <Ubuntu> johto when u ready can u help me pleasee ohhh plse !
[01:08] <Ubuntu> :D
[01:08] <Johto> zec: you select it when booting the ubuntu disk !
[01:08] <hmpedersen> zec, just insert the cd and reboot.. Then choose memtest from the menu
[01:08] <zec> ok, thanks
[01:08] <AnRkey> Psychomethod, if you want to know everything about clamscan (the command line version) try this: clamscan --help | more
[01:09] <Ubuntu> KERNERL QUESTION HERE PLSE?
[01:09] <foad_> I need help to make my XGL work right .. here is a screen of my problem : http://peecee.dk/index.php?lid=1&aid=1&pid=2&loadid=66975&noresize=yes   - When i start the XGL season it looks like that .. i have been following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl           Anybody plz help ?
[01:09] <AnRkey> Psychomethod, or type man clamscan
[01:09] <Johto> Loopies: thats the problem, your system doesnt seem to "sniff" your network card hardware, do you get network when booting live-cd ?
[01:09] <Loopies> I haven't tried that.
[01:09] <Loopies> johto
[01:09] <Johto> Loopies: try that
[01:09] <Loopies> okay.  I will have to disconnect :O(  I'll be back
[01:09] <Ubuntu> someone explain to me the kernel upgrade question plse
[01:09] <Johto> Loopies: if no eth0 then its because it cannot use right drivers..
[01:10] <Loopies> johto, just so I know before I go, can I repair or something from the live-cd?
[01:10] <Johto> Ubuntu: pretty complex thing to tell here in irc
[01:10] <Johto> Ubuntu: why not google ?
[01:10] <Ubuntu> is it
[01:10] <Ubuntu> ill tell u then its a noob question really
[01:10] <Johto> Loopies: no, just boot from the live-cd, then check if the network works, see if it finds eth0
[01:10] <Ubuntu> when i upgrade to the latest kernerl headers etc
[01:10] <Loopies> okay
[01:10] <Loopies> I'll be back :O)
[01:11] <Ubuntu> i went from 2.20-15 to 2.20-16 something like that
[01:11] <Johto> Ubuntu: well, kernel upgrade has always being the "hardest" thing in linux..like a brain surgery ..soo...
[01:11] <Ubuntu> at the grub boot menu which one should i be choosin exactly
[01:11] <Ubuntu> they both boot with no sound now
[01:11] <Ubuntu> ??
[01:11] <Ubuntu> no i understand thta johto
[01:12] <Johto> Ubuntu: do you have multiple soundcards?
[01:12] <Ubuntu> do u know wether i should be using old or new
[01:12] <AnRkey> Psychomethod, did that work?
[01:12] <Ubuntu> basically kernel -15 was booting with all startup sounds
[01:12] <Ubuntu> -16 wasnt
[01:12] <Johto> new should work ok, something else is the cause
[01:12] <jonathant> how do i define a variable in a script using su -c ?
[01:12] <Ubuntu> today they both dont :D)
[01:12] <Ubuntu> just wondered if u knew
[01:12] <Ubuntu> i set it to my audigy soundcard
[01:12] <Ubuntu> no luck
[01:13] <Johto> Ubuntu: check the alsa-mixer settings, use the speaker icon and the "sound" thingy in the gnome menu
[01:13] <Ubuntu> they need to sort this kernel upgrade
[01:13] <MajorPoopyPants> I need a good ftp program please
[01:13] <MajorPoopyPants> lightweight client prog plz
[01:13] <Alloosh> guys i asked many times and no answer, how do I connect to my ubuntu machine from other machines?
[01:13] <foad_> I need help to make my XGL work right .. here is a screen of my problem : http://peecee.dk/index.php?lid=1&aid=1&pid=2&loadid=66975&noresize=yes   - When i start the XGL season it looks like that .. i have been following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl           Anybody plz help ?
[01:13] <Ubuntu> its not good when u just do a fresh install
[01:13] <Johto> Ubuntu: HAHA, its EASY nowadays, you should have tried upgrading kernel by hand manually back in the 1998
[01:13] <Ubuntu> and then u are faced with this erm.. which kernel should i try ??
[01:14] <Ubuntu> unless u know what to do
[01:14] <Johto> Ubuntu: none
[01:14] <Ubuntu> i know its easy now :D)
[01:14] <Johto> Ubuntu: i mean, why mess wiht the system if you dont know what you are doing? no pain, no gain
[01:14] <Ubuntu> but u know for noobs to ubuntu its a little like erm...
[01:14] <Johto> Ubuntu: well, try and boot from the live-cd, do you have the sounds then?
[01:15] <Ubuntu> basically
[01:15] <nepali> anyone have tried canon 2900
[01:15] <Johto> Ubuntu: and are you sure its the ubuntu, not some other fault, like bad mixer settings, no power in the speakers etc? :D
[01:15] <Ubuntu> i did a fresh install ok, then i updates ubuntu as u do and it install the latest kernel headers etc etc
[01:15] <Johto> do you have the speaker icon?
[01:15] <Ubuntu> so when u restart u get grub menu u with 2 types of kernel to choose from ??
[01:15] <Ubuntu> not inc safe mode
[01:16] <Ubuntu> i just wondered why
[01:16] <Ubuntu> i know there is site to delete the list
[01:16] <Ubuntu> but what about actualy using them
[01:16] <Johto> Ubuntu: the newer, but something is weird if you get the menu, it should default to the newer, not show the menu if you dont spesificly press some button
[01:16] <Ubuntu> wouldnt it be better for  Ubuntu team to adjust this update so its easier for noobs
[01:16] <Johto> Ubuntu: or do you have multiboot, like windows also?
[01:17] <Johto> Ubuntu: linux is not for noobs :D
[01:17] <Ubuntu> yeah i have dual boot
[01:17] <Johto> haha, cold fact :D
[01:17] <Ubuntu> ubuntu on HDA and windows on HDB
[01:17] <fivetwentysix__> Hi, how come only 1 program can use sound
[01:17] <Ubuntu> is that why ?
[01:17] <Johto> Ubuntu: ok, then the grub boot menu is normal
[01:17] <Johto> Ubuntu: i dont have the menu because i run only linux
[01:17] <Ubuntu> yeah but u say linux is not for noobs
[01:17] <Ubuntu> but thats stupid
[01:18] <Johto> Ubuntu: double click the speaker icon in gnome, tell me what you seee
[01:18] <Frogzoo> !sound | fivetwentysix__
[01:18] <ubotu> fivetwentysix__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:18] <Johto> Ubuntu: ahahha
[01:18] <Ubuntu> coz in order for the linux world to grow they need to cater for real noobs too
[01:18] <Ubuntu> what u think windows has been doing
[01:18] <Johto> ubotu: its ok for noob, but you need to learn a ton
[01:18] <Ubuntu> hence why bill is laughing
[01:18] <fivetwentysix__> How do I select ALSA?
[01:18] <jonathant> what does ubuntu want done?
[01:18] <Ubuntu> i know u do
[01:18] <Ubuntu> im prepared
[01:18] <Ubuntu> im competant
[01:18] <jonathant> what do you want to do?
[01:18] <Ubuntu> its just some parts i need to learn i fully agree
[01:18] <Shaffox> Haha. And you're one of them, Ubuntu ?
[01:19] <Ubuntu> but they could make it alittle bit more user freindly for certain people
[01:19] <AndrewB> Ubuntu: whats up?
[01:19] <Johto> ubotu: yeah, best to learn also the "basics", like the terminal and the "core" non graphical stuff too, it helps alot !
[01:19] <zegevrijtt> can i undo a msdol label and recover all partitions?
[01:19] <Ubuntu> im not complaininh just thinking of others
[01:19] <jonathant> dont think the develepors dont ry
[01:19] <Johto> ubuntu yeah, best to learn also the "basics", like the terminal and the "core" non graphical stuff too, it helps alot !
[01:19] <hmpedersen> Ubuntu, I doubt the fact that Bill is laughing..
[01:19] <Shaffox> Ubuntu, Like what? What isn't user friendly enough?
[01:19] <Ubuntu> ok so what do u think then
[01:19] <Johto> Ubuntu: there are lot to learn, no need to rush
[01:19] <Shaffox> The icons aren't big enough?
[01:20] <AndrewB> !offtopic
[01:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:20] <Ubuntu>  could it be my win h/D is conflicting
[01:20] <Johto> Ubuntu: no
[01:20] <hmpedersen> More likely he's laughing about all the noobs who pay for Vista only to have their system restricted so much..
[01:20] <kidbuntu> !frostwire
[01:20] <Ubuntu> but serious it shows 2 kernels to boot into
[01:20] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:20] <Johto> Ubuntu: windwos doesnt have anytring to do with it, its not "on" now
[01:20] <Ubuntu> but ont he how to geeks site he has the same
[01:20] <Ubuntu> but he deletes all the new kernels
[01:20] <Johto> Ubuntu: do you have the speaker icon??
[01:20] <Ubuntu> and keep the oldest
[01:20] <hmpedersen> hmm.. Ubuntu updates that demand a reboot?
[01:20] <Ubuntu> let me show u the link ??? so u can see why im like huih !
[01:20] <Ubuntu> yeah
[01:21] <Ubuntu> i got speaker
[01:21] <Johto> Ubuntu: double click it !
[01:21] <Ubuntu> yep
[01:21] <Johto> Ubuntu: what does it says in the top bar
[01:21] <Ubuntu> audigy
[01:21] <Ubuntu> my sound card
[01:21] <Johto> Ubuntu: ok, then it has loaded the drivers, now you need to figure what settings makes it to not sound! (like volume,input/output) stuff
[01:22] <Kwafoo> how to enable 3D mode in chess??
[01:22] <Ubuntu> done that
[01:22] <Ubuntu> havent touched it from yesterday
[01:22] <Ubuntu> the new kernel didnt play
[01:22] <Ubuntu> the old did
[01:22] <Kwafoo> Your system does not have the required software to enable 3D mode. Please contact your system administrator and ask them to install the OpenGL Python bindings and the GtkGLExt Python bindings.
[01:22] <Ubuntu> today they both dont
[01:22] <Ubuntu> :D)
[01:22] <Johto> Ubuntu: re-check hte mixer settingsd!
[01:22] <Johto> settings
[01:22] <Ubuntu> oh i love linux !!!
[01:22] <Ubuntu> ok ill play around cheers
[01:23] <Johto> Kwafoo: you need hardware accelrated drivers
[01:23] <Ubuntu> can i show u this please bare with me
[01:23] <Xteven> hi, I seem to have a problem with nentworkmanager (again)
[01:23] <Xteven> according to the information in /usr/share/doc, NM should nswitch to wired network when I plug in my network cable
[01:23] <kruqnut> when installing, in advanced options, what do i put for "Device for boot loader installation" in order to install it to the partition im installing linux to?
[01:23] <kruqnut> installing ubuntu that is
[01:23] <Xteven> but instead, it has now configured both interfaces (wired and wireless)
[01:24] <Xteven> so nonw I took down my wireless network with ifdown eth1
[01:24] <Johto> kruqnut: the first partition of the hard-drive
[01:24] <Evanlec> kruqnut, u want to put boot loader (GRUB) onto your hd0 partition
[01:24] <Kwafoo> Johto: Thank you ,i try
[01:24] <Xteven> and NM still thinks it's connected to that
[01:24] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:24] <vreer> Xteven: like ... /dev/hdX od /dev/sdX ? waht drive are you installing on?
[01:24] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:24] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:24] <Ubuntu> check it out !
[01:24] <Ubuntu> thats like mine but with 2 kernels not loads
[01:24] <Alloosh> is it possible to host a site on my computer if I have dynamic ip adress?
[01:24] <Ubuntu> :D) lol
[01:25] <kruqnut> so if the linux partition is installing to /dev/sda1/ i put /dev/sda1/??
[01:25] <Johto> Alloosh: sure
[01:25] <Alloosh> Johto: how?
[01:25] <Johto> Alloosh: just use some of the free dns hosting services
[01:25] <Ubuntu> but he keeps the -10 not the -16
[01:25] <Ubuntu> how weird :D
[01:25] <kruqnut> i need to install the bootloader to the linux partition in order for the bootloader to load linux
[01:25] <[Daniel] > i love this channel, i learned a lot
[01:25] <kruqnut> if i install it to the MBR then it wont work at all
[01:25] <Alloosh> Johto: site please?
[01:25] <Johto> Alloosh: if your ip doesnt change too often, and you keep updating it if it changes, its easy
[01:25] <kruqnut> not to mention HD0 is my IDE storage drive
[01:25] <Evanlec> Alloosh, http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/
[01:26] <kruqnut> so i type /dev/sda1/ in the box?
[01:26] <Alloosh> it changes every 12, do I have to update every time it changes?
[01:26] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:26] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:26] <Ubuntu> explain !
[01:26] <Evanlec> kruqnut, why wont it work ?
[01:26] <Johto> Alloosh: there are tons, i use http://fdns.net/
[01:26] <kruqnut> the bootloader needs GRUB installed on the partition in order to work
[01:26] <Johto> Alloosh: my computer is "rousku.fdns.net" ..try http://rousku.fdns.net" :D
[01:27] <Ubuntu> whos talking to me ?
[01:27] <Evanlec> kruqnut, GRUB is the bootloader so im confused
[01:27] <kruqnut> if it goes to the MBR on HD0 it will do nothing as my computer boots off HD1, and if its on the MBR of HD1 then my bootloader won't work
[01:27] <kruqnut> so i have to install GRUB to the partition of linux
[01:27] <nanonyme> Johto, maybe another try with a bit more content? ;)
[01:27] <Johto> Alloosh: if that changes that often, its not good
[01:27] <Alloosh> Johto: so you will need to go to their site and update your account every time the ip address changes?
[01:27] <Evanlec> when u say bootloader are u referring to windows mbr?
[01:27] <Meroigo> does the system log only save three days worth of logs?
[01:27] <Johto> nanonyme:  :D
[01:27] <kruqnut> i use a third party bootloader for triple booting
[01:27] <Johto> Alloosh: pretty much
[01:27] <Evanlec> oh i see
[01:27] <kruqnut> no i have a third party bootloader/partition manager
[01:28] <nanonyme> Johto, where do you study?
[01:28] <kruqnut> because windows xp and windows vista require special options to dual boot together
[01:28] <Johto> Alloosh: i have dynamic addres too, but my computer is 24/7 online, so mine changes like once per 4 months !
[01:28] <Ubuntu> anyone explain this kernel update thing !
[01:28] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:28] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:28] <kruqnut> anyways i have to install grub to the linux partition
[01:28] <kruqnut> so that the bootloader can load it in order to start the linux Kernel
[01:28] <Alloosh> I can do that by just pointing the domain to the new ip address every time my ip address changes, so I will not need them :)
[01:28] <Johto> nandemonai: i dont study, i already graduated :D
[01:28] <kruqnut> so im wondering what exact path i need to use in order to get it to install to my linux partition
[01:29] <kruqnut> since my ext3 linux partition is /dev/sda1
[01:29] <Johto> nanonyme: http://rousku.fdns.net/mrtg/
[01:29] <kruqnut> im guessing thats what i use?
[01:29] <Johto> nanonyme: some nice graphs for u
[01:29] <Evanlec> kruqnut, im not positive but i would say yes
[01:29] <Ubuntu> well i have ubuntu on hda and windows on hdb and then when i boot it goes straight to win ,. so i have to f12 choose the hda disk then it brings up the grub menu on mine
[01:29] <Alloosh> the other question: how do I connect to my ubuntu machine at home while iam at work or somewhere else?
[01:29] <nanonyme> nice
[01:29] <Ubuntu> use remot
[01:29] <Ubuntu> e
[01:29] <kruqnut> well if you try to dualboot xp and vista together
[01:29] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, check hard drive boot order in bios?
[01:29] <kruqnut> xp will steal windows vista system restore
[01:29] <Ubuntu> hasnt ubuntu got a terminal server clietn for that
[01:29] <kruqnut> and other things
[01:30] <Johto> http://rousku.fdns.net/uptime/ <-- mu uptime
[01:30] <kruqnut> so you have toi use a bootloader to hide the vista partition when booting XP
[01:30] <Ubuntu> krugnet whats up man u sound like u got probs
[01:30] <kruqnut> well i had ubuntu installed but my hard drive was read only
[01:30] <zec> I was reinstalling windows xp (And trying to wipe out ubuntu) - in the setup menu for xp, it showed that I have two partitions (C 7336 mb and F 2957 mb).  It gave me two options - to delete the partitions (and then I guess it would install windows on the free space) or "create partition in unpartitioned space".  Which one should I choose?
[01:31] <Johto> zec: first delete, then make a new partition to the free'ed space
[01:31] <[Daniel] > i cant run a radio with video stream!
[01:31] <Evanlec> zec, if u want to whipe out ubuntu, delete partitions and use free space
[01:32] <zec> Evanlec: so, I delete both partitions first? even the one where it says has "system files" on?
[01:32] <Johto> zec: what???
[01:32] <Johto> zec: and those both are from ubuntu install?
[01:32] <Ubuntu> evanlec i know the order
[01:32] <Evanlec> zec, system files?
[01:32] <kruqnut> i wish i could see if linux considered my install drive to be HD1 or HD0
[01:32] <Loopies> Johto, okay, it worked!
[01:32] <Ubuntu> hda is boot disk
[01:32] <kruqnut> because i think that was one of the major problems
[01:32] <Ubuntu> thats not my issue
[01:32] <Loopies> ohh, and what's an attack on port 3380?
[01:32] <Ubuntu> i can live with this
[01:32] <Johto> Loopies: wtf?
[01:32] <Evanlec> zec, that sounds like it might be a recovery partition, u using a DELL or something?
[01:32] <zec> johto: when I go to delete the bigger partition, it says "this disk has important system files on it, are you sure you want to delete?".  Yes, both of these are from the zubuntu install - I had no partitions before
[01:32] <kruqnut> it installed on HD1 but when i went to boot hd1 became hd0
[01:32] <Johto> Loopies: where do you see some "atack" ?
[01:32] <kruqnut> i had the same problem with XP install
[01:32] <Ubuntu> my issue is all the kernels listed at the grub menu
[01:32] <zec> Evanlec: Dell dimension 2400
[01:33] <Ubuntu> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[01:33] <Ubuntu> like that
[01:33] <kruqnut> so i think i need to pull my IDE HD untill im done installing the OS
[01:33] <Loopies> johto ... sorry, on my windows machine ... I am using my old laptop to talk here because, well, my internet is not working on my linux box
[01:33] <Johto> zec: lol, i havent ever seen that message, in 15 years, yeah you can delete it, dont believe that microsoft shiit
[01:33] <Loopies> and I just reconnected and it "blocked an attack", johto
[01:33] <zec> johto: OK - so I delete the bigger partition, right?
[01:33] <Johto> Loopies: ah, you have some crappy sofware firewall program telling you bullshit :D
[01:33] <Ubuntu> krugnet prv chat me plse and reply
[01:33] <Evanlec> kruqnut, the problem with disconnecting drives while installing ubuntu is that when u reconnect it, your bios may re-order the disks
[01:34] <Loopies> johto, haha, yes.  No cause for concern, then?
[01:34] <Ubuntu> correct
[01:34] <aztec13> if i sat my irc set to ubuntu-in spanish how could i get a posting on the channel itself instructing the person to either look for me in this room or xubuntu?
[01:34] <tatters> Would syncing my entire dekstop home folder (inc hidden)  with my laptop home folder (inc hidden) cause any problems??
[01:34] <Johto> Loopies: no worrys, firewalls and antivir programs liek to scare people, to buy their products u see
[01:34] <Evanlec> zec, unless u have important data, delete all i would say
[01:34] <zec> Evanlec: both partitions?
[01:34] <Johto> Loopies: telling some non relative information, like its "important".
[01:34] <Ubuntu> correct
[01:34] <kruqnut> evanlec my bootloader handles that
[01:34] <Loopies> johto, ahhh! ... in any event, my live CD DOES recognize the internet (or I guess more technically, the NIC)
[01:34] <Evanlec> zec, yea, why make things messy, delete both and make a new one
[01:34] <kruqnut> OS's have a hard time installing on HD1 over Hd0
[01:34] <Johto> Loopies: ok, thats good "!
[01:34] <zec> thanks!
[01:35] <Loopies> johto ... now what? :O)
[01:35] <Ubuntu> can i help anyone ?
[01:35] <Johto> Loopies: then you can figure out somehow what module it uses(what brand etc)..then if it doesnt use it automaticly after REAL setup, you at least know what module it "should" use..to install it "manually"
[01:35] <tatters> !unison
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unison - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <Loopies> okay.  So do LSMOD and see what it says, johto?
[01:36] <Johto> Loopies: i would recommend you now to do "lsmod" and write it down
[01:36] <Ubuntu> private chat doesnt appear to be working !
[01:36] <faemir> Does anyone know any piece of software that will read or convert some .docx files I have?
[01:36] <kruqnut> once i get ubuntu up i need to get NTFS r/w and then on to the compiz-fusion install :P
[01:36] <NuCobra> Hello all i need help installing Flash Player i have a (amd 64)
[01:36] <Ubuntu> has anyone ever been to the LFS irc channel
[01:36] <faemir> NuCobra, there is no flash player for 64 bit ubuntu
[01:36] <Ubuntu> god help u if u do and dont know anything about linux they eat u alive :D)
[01:36] <Ubuntu> linux from scratch !
[01:36] <Ubuntu> LOL
[01:36] <Evanlec> kruqnut, getting ntfs r/w not terribly hard, i would say its triple booting that is the hard part ;p
[01:37] <Loopies> johto, stupid question: there are about a million things listed here and none of them jump out at me as NIC ... what is the abbreviation or whatever?
[01:37] <Ubuntu> be warned
[01:37] <Johto> Ubuntu: ehehhe !
[01:37] <chuxxsss> this rock it is better than suse
[01:37] <Ubuntu> LOL
[01:37] <Ubuntu> johto u get me
[01:37] <Ubuntu> lol
[01:37] <Johto> Loopies: hard to say :I
[01:37] <Ubuntu> the irc guys will murder u
[01:37] <Johto> Loopies: wait a sec, i will investigate
[01:37] <Loopies> johto darn
[01:37] <kruqnut> im a linux newb, im only trying to get compiz fusion to work because my lil bro thinks the vista aero glass interface is all awesomely graphic enhanced lol
[01:37] <Ubuntu> unless u a LFS demon!
[01:37] <Loopies> thank you! johto
[01:37] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[01:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:37] <Ubuntu> krugnet can i help u ?
[01:37] <NuCobra> faemir, so there is no way i can view web sites that need flash?
[01:37] <Loopies> kruqnut, haha, yea, I did that...
[01:38] <kruqnut> not yet
[01:38] <kruqnut> lemme see how this install attempt goes lol
[01:38] <PriceChild> !effects | kruqnut
[01:38] <ubotu> kruqnut: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[01:38] <Ubuntu> install the flash pulgins from synaptic
[01:38] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, maybe u can help me with this one, i completely formatted and installed Vista over a ubuntu installation, and yet i see GRUB text before Vista splash screen
[01:38] <Ubuntu> private chat me plse
[01:38] <Evanlec> k
[01:38] <kruqnut> GRUB is still on the MBR then
[01:38] <PriceChild> Evanlec, please ask in ##windows for instructions on how to repair the windows mbr
[01:38] <kruqnut> vista doesn't overwrite it?
[01:39] <Evanlec> i thot it did
[01:39] <tatters> anyone here use a laptop n desktop sync them ?
[01:39] <Evanlec> i thought there was no question about it, vista would overwrite the mbr
[01:39] <Loopies> tatters, that is my end wish ... I'm trying to set up a network, but need interent working first :O)
[01:39] <familie> !rpm > familie
[01:39] <kruqnut> ok i need help now
[01:39] <chuxxsss> How do I set up graphics for 3d
[01:39] <kruqnut> i had a fatal grub error, it wouldn't install to /dev/ada1/
[01:39] <tatters> wondering if syncing my entire dekstop home folder (inc hidden)  with my laptop home folder (inc hidden) cause any problems??
[01:39] <Ubuntu> :::evanlec
[01:39] <kruqnut> err sda1
[01:39] <familie> I got a Lexmark Printer Driver and I need to install it, but I only got an .rpm file - what should I do?
[01:39] <tatters> I use unsooon and shh
[01:39] <PriceChild> chuxxsss, what card?
[01:39] <Ubuntu> can u respond to the prv chat at all ??
[01:39] <tatters> unison^
[01:40] <kruqnut> im attempting to install Ubuntu with grub on the partition imm installing ubuntu to
[01:40] <Loopies> tatters, no idea, sorry ... let me know when you find out!
[01:40] <faemir> NuCobra, well you can install ubuntu 32bit on a 64bit machine and then use the 32bit flash plugin
[01:40] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, i sent u private msg
[01:40] <tatters> yah lol
[01:40] <PriceChild> kruqnut, you should be installing it to a drive, e.g. /dev/sda, not a partition
[01:40] <Loopies> familie, I've had bad luck w/ lexmark, where did you get your driver?
[01:40] <familie> Loopies, lexmark.com the LLPDDK Libs
[01:40] <Loopies> familie, well, I kind of feel like an idiot, I'll check it out.  Thanks.
[01:40] <chuxxsss> gforce mx440
[01:41] <tatters> seems to be the blackhole of questions, 2 mins to setup it all up, 2 days to find an answer to that Q
[01:41] <familie> Loopies, np np :) I'm one, too
[01:41] <phonixor> .
[01:41] <Blauhaut> Guys when i start compiz fusion i lost my window topics
[01:41] <PriceChild> chuxxsss, system > admin > restricted driver manager
[01:41] <tatters> and counting
[01:41] <chuxxsss> ok
[01:41] <PriceChild> chuxxsss, there enable the nvidia driver
[01:41] <familie> tatters, why would you do that?
[01:41] <Ubuntu> evanlec im waiting :D
[01:41] <Johto> Loopies: dmesg | grep eth0
[01:41] <familie> I mean they got different ssh keys and stuff... I'd just sync some Document folders
[01:41] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, i sent u a private..
[01:42] <tatters> so all my prefrences and data is synced much the same way a roaming profile in windows
[01:42] <Ubuntu> not gettting it now
[01:42] <kruqnut> pricechild I do not want GRUB on my MBR
[01:42] <Ubuntu> im the last person to responf
[01:42] <Loopies> johto, okay, "VIA Rhine II" it looks like
[01:42] <Johto> Loopies: mine says : [    4.289091]  skge eth0: addr 00:0c:6e:ad:b1:48
[01:42] <Johto> [   13.627195]  skge eth0: enabling interface
[01:42] <Johto> [   15.276229]  skge eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control none
[01:42] <kruqnut> i want grub on my partition not my MBR
[01:42] <kruqnut> i've said this liek 20 times :/
[01:42] <Johto> Loopies: my module is the "skge"
[01:43] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, i am registered and recognized by nickserv, im not getting anythighn from you
[01:43] <Ubuntu> weird
[01:43] <tatters> e-mail,documents.shedules,contacts,etc
[01:43] <Ubuntu> its slow
[01:43] <Ubuntu> chat here
[01:43] <Blauhaut> My problem is :  when i start compiz fusion i lost my window topics
[01:43] <[swb] > kruqnut, do you want to install grub in your bootsector, so it can load windows and linux?
[01:43] <Evanlec> k
[01:43] <lagrimo> hello, guys. I'm looking for a suitable application for showing on television to watch videos, listen to music and to watch pictures. Are there any applications? Important: I'm do not need tv program
[01:43] <chuxxsss> not there
[01:43] <Ubuntu> do u have 2 hd ?
[01:43] <chuxxsss> in kde
[01:43] <kruqnut> yea
[01:43] <[swb] > I have no experience getting grub to load vista tho
[01:43] <kruqnut> and im not sure which is hd0 and which is hd1
[01:43] <Loopies> johto, I don't have anythinge between the "[    xx.xxxxxx] "  and the "eht0"
[01:43] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, yes, however, even with that second hd disconnected i still see this strange text
[01:43] <[swb] > agg
[01:43] <kruqnut> im booting xp, vista, and linux
[01:43] <Ubuntu> ok
[01:43] <[swb] > kruqnut, do you have them mounted?
[01:43] <Johto> this channel is fun, its like never ending stream of "lost souls, crying for help" :D
[01:44] <[swb] > are you in linux now?
[01:44] <kruqnut> im on livecd right now
[01:44] <[swb] > Johto, haha
[01:44] <Ubuntu> which HD are u trying to install vista on ?
[01:44] <chuxxsss> kaffeine good tv dvb program
[01:44] <Ubuntu> hda or hdb ?
[01:44] <kruqnut> can i mount from the live cd?
[01:44] <[swb] > kruqnut, ok click on the computer icon
[01:44] <Ubuntu> as in 1st or 2nd ?
[01:44] <kruqnut> i have hda and sda
[01:44] <Meroigo> I put in a CD in my DVD-ROM drive and it says: http://static.pici.se/pictures/PdUWTcoAp.png (btw, it's the first time since I installed Ubuntu that I wanted to use a CD-ROM in it...)
[01:44] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, it wouldnt be a problem except that, the last time i tried to install ubuntu again, windows wouldnt boot anymore
[01:44] <[swb] > in places or whatever
[01:44] <Loopies> johto, in fact, it doesn't really look anything like what you have written, I have things like "110Mbps, full-duples, lpa 0x45E1"
[01:44] <[swb] > then double click on each disk
[01:44] <tatters> I thought maybe just sync .kde but even in that 1 folder theres a lot of files that seem irelevent take me weeks to filter em all out
[01:44] <[swb] > and see which is which as it mounts them
[01:44] <lagrimo> any ideas??
[01:44] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, vista is installed on primary partition, hda
[01:44] <Ubuntu> its conflicting somewhere
[01:44] <Johto> Loopies: do you have integrated card?
[01:44] <Loopies> johto, yes
[01:44] <Ubuntu> arr hold on
[01:44] <Johto> Loopies: of course the output varies by hardware
[01:44] <PriceChild> Evanlec, Ubuntu, hda is NOT a partiton
[01:44] <Ubuntu> u said primary partition of hda
[01:45] <Johto> Loopies: i have integrade 3com card on this asus mobo
[01:45] <kruqnut> well with livecd booted, it doesnt show my other disks
[01:45] <Evanlec> PriceChild, lol, okay, ur right, hda is the device right?
[01:45] <Ubuntu> i know what HDA is thanks !
[01:45] <Ubuntu> we are talking about they butt out plse
[01:45] <Loopies> johto, I think I just might reinstall
[01:45] <Ubuntu> evanlec
[01:45] <PriceChild> !guidelines > Ubuntu
[01:45] <Evanlec> ya
[01:45] <Ubuntu> ty sir
[01:45] <Evanlec> hda, hd0, are these the same things?
[01:45] <PriceChild> Evanlec, yes
[01:45] <kruqnut> i mean, its going to be (hd1,0) or (hd0,0)
[01:45] <Evanlec> k
[01:45] <Johto> Loopies: well, u might, but nevertheless, if your card is working "now" when you are in live-cd , then its 100% sure to get working after install, even it might need some "tweaking" :D
[01:45] <Ubuntu> yes
[01:46] <PriceChild> Evanlec, hd0 would be grubs interpretation for example
[01:46] <Evanlec> a little confusing to me
[01:46] <[swb] > kruqnut, really, it doesnt show disks in Places -> Computer
[01:46] <Ubuntu> hard drive a or 0
[01:46] <kruqnut> well i have HDA and SDA as my hard drives
[01:46] <Ubuntu> or hd b or 1
[01:46] <PriceChild> Evanlec, a lot of things in linux start counting at 0 instead of 1
[01:46] <Ubuntu> as in 1 or 2
[01:46] <Ubuntu> but they count 0 or 1
[01:46] <Evanlec> yea
[01:46] <Ubuntu> get it
[01:46] <Loopies> johto, yea, I think I'll just do that.  Should be easier, me thinks.
[01:46] <Ubuntu> ok ..
[01:46] <Evanlec> grub counts from 0, windows counts from 1?
[01:46] <Johto> Loopies: yeah
[01:46] <Ubuntu> where do u want vista and where do u want ubuntu
[01:46] <Ubuntu> have u got 2 HD?
[01:46] <Evanlec> i want vista on hda, ubntu on hdb
[01:47] <kruqnut> swb, my linux partition is mounted, that is it
[01:47] <Evanlec> second hard drive
[01:47] <Ubuntu> ok
[01:47] <Evanlec> yes
[01:47] <kruqnut> the linux partition is on SDA
[01:47] <Ubuntu> ok
[01:47] <kruqnut> but i don't know if SDA is considered hd0 or hd1
[01:47] <PriceChild> kruqnut, sda is sd
[01:47] <Loopies> johto, ubuntu, since I'm reinstalling, I was thinking of doing a dual boot w/ XP so I can play games.  Is it A.) easier to install Ubuntu first, and then Windoze B.) vise versa or C.) just virtualize windows.  I really would rather not have to dual boot, but I really want to play some games :O)
[01:47] <Johto> i have authentic vista ultimate license from work, i havent even installed this disk, its gathering dust as we speak :I
[01:47] <Evanlec> SDA = scsi disk device A ?
[01:47] <Johto> i hate vista
[01:47] <kruqnut> when i installed ubuntu last time
[01:47] <Ubuntu> sata isnt
[01:47] <Ubuntu> it
[01:47] <PriceChild> kruqnut, it has no number as that's what's given to partitions, not disks
[01:48] <Loopies> johto, ubuntu, I hope I'm not a dissenter because I want XP :O)
[01:48] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, im not sure ;p
[01:48] <kruqnut> it installed in the bootloader as (hd1,0)
[01:48] <Ubuntu> what i got
[01:48] <kruqnut> but to get ubuntu to run, i had to edit it and change it to (hd0,0)
[01:48] <Johto> Loopies: windows xp first, leave "unpartitioned" space to the end of the disk, then use that space to make the necessary ubuntu partitions, and install the grub to the FIRST partition(windows partition) then you will have multiboot option in grub fro ubuntu/windows
[01:48] <Ubuntu> is i have xp  on hdb with the jumpers set too slave
[01:48] <kruqnut> well after the bootloader gets ahold of it it is hd0
[01:48] <kruqnut> but during install its hd1
[01:48] <kruqnut> i think thats the problem
[01:48] <PriceChild> Evanlec, because of libata, feisty onwards, ubuntu recognises normal ide drives as sata
[01:49] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, im using two SATA drives
[01:49] <Ubuntu> and i put ubuntu on hda with the jumper set too master
[01:49] <Ubuntu> ok
[01:49] <Johto> Loopies: so windows first, then ubuntu
[01:49] <Loopies> johto, so you would dual boot over virtualization?
[01:49] <kruqnut> so i need to remove the IDE drive with would be HD0
[01:49] <Johto> Loopies: well, neither
[01:49] <kruqnut> then it should install as HD0
[01:49] <Ubuntu> ubuntu set my grub menu hidden
[01:49] <Loopies> haha, just say no to windows, johto?
[01:49] <Johto> Loopies: i mean, i dont have a single "real" windows machine now at home, only vmware for some windows stuff i "really" need
[01:49] <Evanlec> Ubuntu, sorry what?
[01:49] <kruqnut> when it comes to boatloaders they don't do SD for booting as far as i know
[01:49] <kruqnut> im completely confused
[01:49] <HLM> !windows
[01:49] <Johto> Loopies: i dont play much games nowadays :I
[01:49] <Ubuntu> so i have to f12 for boot menus on this pc and select the hda drive to then get the grub
[01:49] <kruqnut> the drive is SDA
[01:49] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:49] <Ubuntu> pclos etc doesnt do that
[01:49] <kruqnut> but it won't install to SD0
[01:50] <Evanlec> PriceChild, thanks for info, so all disks are labeled SDA or some such?
[01:50] <Ubuntu> dont ask me why
[01:50] <tatters> does anyone know of any actual file which resides in the home that is local specific and cannot be synced across machines?
[01:50] <Loopies> johto, ahh.  well maybe I'll get Ubuntu up and running, get my network squared away and then see about VMware and/or a dual boot.
[01:50] <PriceChild> Evanlec, yes, even if in edgy they were labelled hd, they are all sd in feisty onwards
[01:50] <Johto> Loopies: my 200gig working windows xp disk is on the drawer, so i could just swap my disk if i needed to go back to windows ..but ..meh..
[01:50] <PriceChild> Evanlec, i think gutsy might revert that actually, but it isn't out yet so meh
[01:50] <Evanlec> PriceChild, okay so sd0,0 = hd0,0 ?
[01:50] <Loopies> johto, alrighty, well, off to reload and then to bed :O)  Thanks a  bunch for your help.    Later.
[01:52] <Johto> bye
[01:53] <Evanlec> PriceChild, okay so just to get this straight, devices are labeled with letters, partitions with numbers correct?
[01:53] <kruqnut> /dev/hda1               1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:53] <kruqnut> /dev/hda2           30401       30401        8032+  df  BootIt
[01:53] <kruqnut> /dev/hda1               1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:53] <kruqnut> /dev/hda2           30401       30401        8032+  df  BootIt
[01:53] <kruqnut> oops
[01:53] <Ubuntu> brb
[01:53] <kruqnut> sorry for spam
[01:53] <Johto> Evanlec: yes
[01:53] <kruqnut> thats what fdisk -l showed
[01:53] <Johto> Evanlec: with ide disks, hda,hdb,hdc with sata disk, sda,sdb,sdc...
[01:53] <Evanlec> Johto, okay, so what does hd0,0 mean?
[01:53] <kruqnut> that just showed my IDE drive
[01:53] <Blauhaut> My problem is :  when i start compiz fusion i lost my window topics
[01:53] <kruqnut> how to i get it to list my SATA drive?
[01:53] <Johto> Evanlec: that means first disk, first partition
[01:54] <Johto> Evanlec: as zero = 1
[01:54] <Tecumseh> Blauhaut: same problem here
[01:54] <Johto> 2 = 1
[01:54] <Evanlec> Johto, but i thot first disk was hda since thats the device
[01:54] <Johto> and so on, thats just grubs own thingy
[01:54] <g0dd3ss> hi everyone I am running feisty on a toshiba laptop. when my wireless doesn't connect, applications take liek 5-10 seconds to load, (ie. terminal, firefox, gimp, pretty much anything), but after my wifi connects they load as normal. does anyone know how i can fix this
[01:54] <Blauhaut> any help ?
[01:54] <Johto> Evanlec: grub is naming its own way
[01:54] <Evanlec> Johto, shouldnt it be hda,0 ?
[01:54] <Evanlec> oh ;p
[01:54] <Evanlec> lol
[01:54] <Johto> Evanlec: grub is another beast :D
[01:54] <Evanlec> so confusing lol
[01:54] <kruqnut> Pricechild, how do i get fdisk to list my SDA drive?
[01:55] <Johto> Evanlec: indeed :S
[01:55] <Meroigo> I put in a CD in my DVD-ROM drive and it says: http://static.pici.se/pictures/PdUWTcoAp.png (btw, it's the first time since I installed Ubuntu that I wanted to use a CD-ROM in it...)..
[01:55] <kruqnut> and why is my IDE drive listed as hda1 and hda2?
[01:55] <kruqnut> i need to find out what is hd0 and hd1
[01:55] <Ubuntu> coz hda is ide ?
[01:55] <Evanlec> so far i've just gotten by with determining lowest number and first letter in alphabet and saying that must be the first one!
[01:55] <Ubuntu> sda is sata ?
[01:55] <Johto> kruqnut: dont confuse two seperate thing !
[01:55] <Johto> kruqnut: GURB names differend than linux
[01:55] <kruqnut> yea but i want to know if hd0 is sda or hda
[01:55] <Evanlec> as if it wasnt complicated enough ;p
[01:55] <kruqnut> i know
[01:56] <Johto> hd0 is the whole disk !
[01:56] <kruqnut> but how do i find out what is gonna be what
[01:56] <kruqnut> because i think that is my problem last time
[01:56] <Johto> hd0,0 is the first partition
[01:56] <kruqnut> of which disk tho
[01:56] <kruqnut> the sda or the hda?
[01:56] <jgraham__> volution
[01:56] <kruqnut> im just gonna rip my ide drive out for the install
[01:56] <Johto> kruqnut: depends which is first in the BIOS
[01:56] <Evanlec> if its ide, hda, if its sata sda ?
[01:56] <berndfdr> kruqnut: see device.map in grub dir
[01:56] <kruqnut> then the sda will have to be HD0
[01:57] <Johto> kruqnut: you should definedly REMOVE other disk if you have two differend disk, if you are noob, so u dont acsidently whipe wrong stuff !
[01:57] <Evanlec> kruqnut, but if u plug ide drive in, it may before hd0
[01:57] <Evanlec> *become
[01:57] <kruqnut> hmm
[01:57] <kruqnut> ok in device.map
[01:57] <kruqnut> it says sda is hd1
[01:57] <kruqnut> i need sda to be hd0
[01:57] <Brykari> Bring back XP
[01:57] <kruqnut> so
[01:57] <Evanlec> so it is second
[01:57] <kruqnut> can i just switch that around in the file?
[01:57] <Johto> kruqnut: then you need to swithc the order in bios
[01:57] <tatters> is there a irc site for koffice
[01:58] <Johto> kruqnut: or in the grub settins
[01:58] <Evanlec> kruqnut, try checking bios hard drive load order?
[01:58] <kruqnut> it already is switched, doesn't seem to do anything
[01:58] <kruqnut> its switched in bios already
[01:58] <tatters> yup :(
[01:58] <Evanlec> oh
[01:58] <kruqnut> to load sata first, it just doesnt work lol
[01:58] <Evanlec> lol
[01:58] <kruqnut> how can i change grub settings
[01:58] <Johto> i would strongly recommend noobs to install theirs stuff with only one physical disk connected at time
[01:58] <Evanlec> well i think u might be right
[01:58] <Evanlec> Johto, and then use f12 to switch between widnows/linux?
[01:58] <kruqnut> johto will it be fine to plug the drive in after the install?
[01:59] <yagami> Can someone please help me with configuring fonts in vlc? I've tried everything with the 'fonts' preferences. but nothing happens. letters appear awfully big
[01:59] <yagami> and are all aliased
[01:59] <Johto> Evanlec: no, i mean initially to get your bearings...like not accsidently wiping your wrong dissk, or foobar your masterboot records with grub using wrong disk :P
[01:59] <Evanlec> oh gotcha
[02:00] <Evanlec> but i feel like u could run into more problems when u reocnnect that second drive
[02:00] <Johto> kruqnut: depends so much on the other variables u want to do ..too complex to tell here :I
[02:00] <still> hi all
[02:00] <Evanlec> especially in windows
[02:00] <Blauhaut> My problem is :  when i start compiz fusion i lost my window topics
[02:00] <Blauhaut> any help ?
[02:00] <Evanlec> windows sees a new hard drive, it wants to format it and some such nonsense
[02:00] <Johto> Evanlec: best way for noobs, TWO differnd machines !
[02:00] <Evanlec> true ;p
[02:00] <Johto> one linux machine, one windows machine LOL
[02:00] <marlun> How easy is it to access files that is shared on a windows machine, from ubuntu?
[02:01] <Johto> marlun: easy
[02:01] <marlun> What do I need to do?
[02:01] <yagami> marlun, you can select 'go' from the file browser menu, select network-
[02:01] <Johto> marlun: linux has this thing called "samba" which is like windows network share, you see linux shares like it would be a windows machine...
[02:01] <yagami> assuming that you have smb installed
[02:01] <kruqnut> bah i got xp and vista dualbooting fine already
[02:01] <Ubuntu> Hard disk drives are accessed over one of a number of bus types, including ATA (IDE, EIDE), Serial ATA (SATA), SCSI, SAS, and Fibre Channel.
[02:01] <Ubuntu> Hard disk drives are accessed over one of a number of bus types, including ATA (IDE, EIDE), Serial ATA (SATA), SCSI, SAS, and Fibre Channel.
[02:01] <Evanlec> Johto, okay so i really wanna get ubuntu installed again on SDB or HDB whatever, my second hard drive, im just concerned because last time it somehow caused Vista to give me a blue screen and be unbootable
[02:01] <berndfdr> Johto: Samba is irrelevant when accessing Windows shared files
[02:02] <Johto> Evanlec: yeah :I vista can freak ..noting new :D
[02:02] <berndfdr> Johto: it only confuses users, who believe they need to set up Samba
[02:02] <marlun> Johto, I don't want to access things on my linux machine from my windows machine, I want it the other way around :)
[02:02] <Evanlec> Johto, however, this couldbe because i screwed up that vista install by not giving it a hard disk controller driver during install
[02:03] <Johto> berndfdr: yes, but to other way, its needed
[02:03] <Evanlec> Johto, i mean, as long as windows boots, if i install ubuntu, the worst that can happen is a screwy MBR right?
[02:03] <Johto> Evanlec: yaeh, well i have had multiboot with two sepearte disks...
[02:03] <Ubuntu> evanlec
[02:03] <A2TeCaN_0\> hey
[02:03] <Johto> Evanlec: hda was windows disk, hdb was linux
[02:03] <Evanlec> right
[02:03] <Johto> Evanlec: hda had the grubloader
[02:03] <berndfdr> marlun: point your favourite file browser to the network shared volumes just like you do it in windows ;)
[02:04] <Johto> because hda was the first disk to bios read
[02:04] <Evanlec> u installed windows before linux right?
[02:04] <Johto> Evanlec: yeah
[02:04] <Evanlec> right okay
[02:04] <A2TeCaN_0\> anyone ever used fdisc to reformat a mp3?
[02:04] <marlun> berndfdr, yeah I got it to work =) thanks!
[02:04] <Johto> Evanlec: then during linux setup all the linux stuff was to go hdb, only the booloader to hda
[02:04] <Evanlec> right
[02:04] <Johto> Evanlec: to hda, not hda1...no numbers !
[02:04] <nenuccia> excuse, can someone tell me how can i convert music files .mod in .cda file format, for write them on a cd?
[02:05] <SpeCon> hi all i'm having some troubles with my network internet connection on ubuntu
[02:05] <SpeCon> To activate or deactivate network connections, select your connection, then click Activate/Deactivate
[02:05] <Johto> Evanlec: because you need to spesify only the hda(no numbers) so it goes to the disk's mbr(master boot record)
[02:05] <Evanlec> okay
[02:05] <SpeCon> i cannot activate or deactivate a connection ?
[02:05] <slvmchn> anyone have experience with ubuntu and gateway laptops? specifically t-series
[02:05] <Evanlec> gotcha
[02:05] <Bayo> come to blow.cdbr.org
[02:05] <slvmchn> intel chipset, core2duo centrino duo
[02:05] <Evanlec> Johto, is this possible using live cd with guided install?
[02:05] <Johto> Evanlec: and, many distribuins see that you have ur windowws already on the first disk, so usually its automaticly easy for grub
[02:05] <Evanlec> to specify that stuff?
[02:06] <Johto> Evanlec: i think you need to use the "manual" ..not sure what the automatic will do, it might hose the windows
[02:06] <Evanlec> yea, Johto and i've had this working before, but ever since i set up my disks as a RAID0 array, everythings been screwy
[02:06] <berndfdr> nenuccia: use a .mod player like Audacious/XMMS and activate the disk writer output plugin to save them as .wav - the rest should be trivial
[02:06] <Evanlec> i deleted the array
[02:06] <Johto> Evanlec: oh, raid...dont know much about raid's
[02:06] <Evanlec> but still things dont seem right
[02:06] <uber_alles> hello
[02:06] <nenuccia> berndfdr, ^^ thanck you very much, i'm going to try!
[02:07] <kruqnut> ok so the question here is
[02:07] <SpeCon> ??
[02:07] <SpeCon> To activate or deactivate network connections, select your connection, then click Activate/Deactivate  DOESN'T work people
[02:07] <maren_> aki estoy de nuevo
[02:07] <kruqnut> how do i install grub to the partition i am installing ubuntu to
[02:07] <Evanlec> Johto, is there any way to like see whats on your MBR exactly?
[02:08] <marlun> why is mp3s automaticly opened in totem movie player instead of in rythmbox?
[02:08] <Johto> Evanlec: you always want the grub to go to the first disk which is first in bios