[11:47] <koba> fat32 is recognised by fstab right?
[11:47] <koba> as an option?
[11:47] <julo> hi
[11:47] <space_oddity> yes
[11:47] <koba> good
[11:47] <space_oddity> no
[11:47] <koba> I'll reboot and see. ; - )
[11:48] <space_oddity> koba, you most put vfat
[11:48] <cyphase> koba: vfat, not fat32
[11:48] <koba> thanks
[11:48] <koba> good
[11:48] <julo> Since a few days, my USB keys don't seem to work anymore with ubuntu (no entry in /dev/sd*). Is there a way to debug that ?
[11:48] <koba> I would have messed that up
[11:48] <space_oddity> koba, did you save and quit?
[11:49] <theine> space_oddity, I thought only the user who actually mounts the partition has write access in this way...
[11:49] <theine> space_oddity, and root of course...
[11:49] <cyphase> koba: all you need to do after editting fstab is execute mount as root
[11:49] <A-star> Just a question, I am having some problems with freenx.
[11:49] <A-star> I have a french keyboard, but in freenx everything is qwerty
[11:49] <space_oddity> theine, yes
[11:50] <space_oddity> theine, ... I think so! :-)
[11:50] <meta> mplayer just lists a whole heap of dependancies on attempted install
[11:50] <space_oddity> koba, are you there? :-)
[11:50] <koba> yes
[11:50] <theine> space_oddity, but if you leave /etc/fstab like this, it will be mounted at boot time by root and ordinary users won't have write access...
[11:50] <koba> but wait...there is no /dev/hda1
[11:50] <space_oddity> koba, did you save and quit?
[11:50] <mishof> theine, i tried installing it without the kernel patch, but it didnt work (under mandrake it did :\)
[11:50] <koba> I'm looking for it
[11:51] <space_oddity> theine, I think all will be able to write to it
[11:51] <cyphase> theine, space_oddity, no. only root can mount, and has to give permission to other users
[11:51] <theine> space_oddity, I don't...
[11:51] <cyphase> theine, space_oddity, at least in ubuntu
[11:51] <space_oddity> mmm
[11:51] <space_oddity> will try...
[11:51] <theine> cyphase, thanks for backing me up...
[11:51] <koba> I seem to have caused some confusion
[11:51] <cyphase> theine, np
[11:52] <space_oddity> sorry koba must to to lounch!... anyway koba, than do "mkdir /media/hda1"
[11:52] <skyrider> Guys, should I report bugs to the Malone or to the old ubuntu bugzilla?
[11:52] <space_oddity> koba, "mount /media/hda" to mount
[11:52] <koba> thanks for the help anyway
[11:52] <space_oddity> bye!
[11:52] <skyrider> Is Malone in production already?
[11:52] <dwadeer> can anyone help me - i cannot run gedit - it shows me a display problem with gtk
[11:52] <space_oddity> ---------------
[11:52] <Pirkei> dwadeer - wow you have had to ask and wait for a while
[11:53] <dwadeer> ok sorry
[11:53] <Trickyphillips> I'm installing VMWare, and it asks me "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" I looked for the default (/usr/src/linux/include), but it wasn't there. What should it be?
[11:53] <dwadeer> waiting patiently
[11:53] <Quinn_Storm> Trickyphillips: you have to install kernel-headers package
[11:53] <Bazzi> is there a tool which can help me to totally erase my hdds (data should not be recoverable at all), I planned to sue the live cd for that, anything that could help me on that?
[11:53] <Trickyphillips> Ah.. Can I apt-get that?
[11:53] <snowblink> Trickyphillips, you have to install the kernel headers
[11:53] <theine> koba, in order to grant all ordinary users write permission you can pass the appropriate gid and uid to mount, whih you can also specify in /etc/fstab
[11:53] <Pirkei> i was just saying you have been very patient for an answer - just wish i could help you is all.. :/
[11:54] <koba> uid...user id?
[11:54] <theine> koba, yes
[11:54] <koba> thanks...but wait!
[11:54] <koba> I can find no /dev/hda1!
[11:54] <theine> koba, but first see if you can access the fat32 partition as root properly
[11:54] <Pirkei> dwadeer - i am really new to linux
[11:54] <koba> k
[11:54] <Quinn_Storm> Trickyphillips: yeah, apt-get install kernel-headers should work...you may need to do kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[11:54] <snowblink> Trickyphillips, you'll need to install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 and build-essential if you want vmware-tools
[11:54] <theine> koba, the user and group id stuff is a bit advanced...
[11:55] <dwadeer> me too and my english isn't great
[11:55] <koba> I'll get there...
[11:55] <Quinn_Storm> Trickyphillips: yeah follow snowblink's advice
[11:55] <dwadeer> :)))
[11:55] <Trickyphillips> Hmm. It looks like I've alread got the linux-kernel-headers package.
[11:55] <koba> but is this going to work if /dev/hda1 doesn't even exist?
[11:55] <theine> koba, alternatively you can not automount the partition and boot time and then mount it as ordinary user whenever you need to access it
[11:55] <snowblink> Trickyphillips, go for the specific one
[11:55] <dwadeer> but i'm trying to use ubuntu
[11:55] <Trickyphillips> Alright. Thanks. :)
[11:55] <revelater> where can i find a guide to nethack?
[11:55] <koba> theine...that is an idea
[11:56] <dwadeer> the problem is i don't have connection at home
[11:56] <dwadeer> only slow modem
[11:56] <theine> koba, that's accomplished by replacing 'user' with 'user,noauto' in /etc/fstab
[11:56] <koba> yup
[11:56] <koba> noauto...
[11:56] <revelater> where can i find a guide to nethack?
[11:56] <dwadeer> so i will ask another questionL jest tu kto z polski ???
[11:56] <liable> koba: are you just trying to mount a vfat partition rw?
[11:56] <sageek> from where can ig et wineX?
[11:56] <theine> koba, you can then mount the partition as ordinary user with 'mount /media/hda1' whenever you need to
[11:57] <Pirkei> there is a nice program i found looking for a firewall yesterday - "translator" if i were any good at linux i would of installed it. - i want to learn french irc and that program would be great.
[11:57] <koba> yeah
[11:57] <koba> it will be fine
[11:57] <revelater> i know some of you at least play nethack...
[11:57] <theine> koba, i'm sure it will :)
[11:57] <HrdwrBoB> Pirkei:  would 'have' :)
[11:57] <koba> but lol...I'm worried that /dev/hda1 doesn't exist
[11:57] <liable> koba: mount /dev/hda1 -t vfat -o user,umask=000 /media/xxxx
[11:58] <theine> koba, that's easy to find out
[11:58] <theine> koba, 'ls /dev/hd*' and see what's there...
[11:59] <koba> ls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory
[11:59] <koba> thought so
[11:59] <koba> it used to be called hda1 on the Mepis system
[11:59] <theine> koba, odd... do you have an SCSI disk by any chance?
[11:59] <koba> don't think so
[11:59] <koba> no
[11:59] <_-InMa-_> buenos dias, bon dia, good morning!
[11:59] <theine> koba, what are the other entries in /etc/fstab ?
[12:00] <theine> koba, i.e. what device names are listed in there?
[12:00] <koba> hmm..interesting now you point that out
[12:00] <koba> my root partition (i used to call hda4) is under /dev/sda4
[12:00] <cyphase> koba, open the device manager and scroll down to the hard drive section
[12:01] <theine> koba, does /dev/sda1 exist?
[12:01] <koba> let me check
[12:01] <koba> that would be the one
[12:01] <netmatix> hi all
[12:01] <cyphase> hey netmatrix
[12:01] <koba> yup
[12:01] <netmatix> i got a problem with ubuntu 5.04 hoary
[12:01] <theine> koba, you seem to have an SCSI disk as I see it...
[12:01] <koba> that must be it
[12:01] <koba> LOL
[12:01] <cyphase> nematix*
[12:01] <cyphase> lol
[12:01] <netmatix> cant find applications://
[12:01] <netmatix> in nautilus
[12:01] <koba> thanks...telling me new things about my hardware...
[12:01] <cyphase> i don't think it exists netmatix
[12:01] <theine> koba, /dev/sda1 wasn't listed in /etc/fstab before I guess?
[12:01] <koba> it is a damn branded PC..
[12:01] <netmatix> how to edit menu then?
[12:01] <koba> don't know a thing about it
[12:02] <koba> yes...it will be sda1
[12:02] <netmatix> does anyone know how to edit the applications menu?
[12:02] <theine> koba, alright
[12:02] <netmatix> cause its freakin me out
[12:02] <koba> theine: thanks a lot
[12:02] <theine> koba, np
[12:03] <sharke> Netmatix install menu -edit
[12:03] <cyphase> netmatix, try looking at the docs
[12:03] <netmatix> well i used debian before
[12:03] <netmatix> always worked by typing applications:// in nautilus
[12:04] <theine> netmatix, that was abandoned in gnome 2.10
[12:04] <theine> asfar as i know...
[12:04] <netmatix> hmm
[12:04] <netmatix> so how to install menu edit?
[12:04] <netmatix> package or what?
[12:04] <koba> theine: It works! : - ))
[12:05] <cyphase> why does the media always call any kind of computer problem a "computer glitch"
[12:05] <cyphase> if a plane crashes, it was "a computer glitch"
[12:05] <cyphase> lol
[12:05] <theine> koba, congratulations
[12:06] <cyphase> koooba! koooba! koooba!
[12:06] <cyphase> ;)
[12:06] <d> I've searched the wiki, but it says nothing about getting USB HID support working under Hoary. I want to get my Gravis USB pad working.
[12:06] <DanglyBits> is firefox 1.0.3 available for ubuntu?
[12:06] <cyphase> DanglyBits: not yet
[12:06] <netmatix> i cant get it to work
[12:06] <netmatix> how to edit the damn applications menu
[12:06] <netmatix> this was so easy with debian
[12:07] <d> If I type 'modprobe hid' as root I'm just told the module doesn't exist
[12:07] <theine> netmatix, http://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/
[12:07] <netmatix> thx
[12:07] <DanglyBits> cyphase: hasnt it been out for about a week already?
[12:07] <d> So, no USB HID support under Hoary?
[12:07] <theine> netmatix, if you use Gnome 2.10 under Debian you will have the same problem...
[12:08] <sharke> netamix look here http://ubuntuguide.org/temp/#menu-editor
[12:08] <Quinn_Storm> d: is hotplug installed?
[12:08] <d> (unless I recompile the kernel- not very desktop/ beginner friendly)
[12:08] <snowblink> does anyone know how to setup firefox to understand bash/emacs key sequences (eg. CTRL-A, CTRL-U)
[12:08] <d> quinn: If I check dmesg?
[12:09] <Quinn_Storm> d: hotplug isn't part of the kernel so it wouldn't show up in dmesg, its a package
[12:09] <theine> snowblink, I'd like to find that out too...
[12:10] <Lito> Hi, is ther any tool for renaming files??
[12:10] <snowblink> Lito, man mv
[12:11] <d> I can't see any mention of hotplug in my /var/log/dmesg ?
[12:11] <d> is that the place to look?
[12:11] <cyphase> what do you guys think about the idea of having a python based language for client side web programming?
[12:12] <Trickyphillips> Snowblink & Quinn: Thanks for the help! I got VMWare fully installed. :)
[12:12] <d> quinn: so, if I get hotplug going, will this somehow enable USB HID support, hence my pad?
[12:13] <d> I hate kernel re-compiles :/
[12:13] <InitMass> anyone who know how to get urxvt to look like this http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=5658803134264b38d2bf33&p=screen
[12:13] <InitMass> ?
[12:13] <Quinn_Storm> Trickyphillips: sure, thougn it was snowblink who really got it right
[12:14] <d> How do I make sure hotplug gets loaded at boot?
[12:14] <snowblink> Quinn_Storm, heh - just installed it myself last week
[12:14] <InitMass> d, add them before boot
[12:14] <Lito> who use here a podcast tool for the ipod?
[12:14] <snowblink> Trickyphillips, now if you if you find out how to deal with the clock drift, tell me
[12:14] <InitMass> d, add the device before boot
[12:14] <Quinn_Storm> snowblink: heh, I don't have much need for it, I personally just rdesktop into a windows box in the corner if I need windows
[12:15] <d> init: do you mean pass a commamd to grub?
[12:15] <d> edit the grub config file maybe?
[12:15] <cyphase> Lito: i don't have an iPod, but i use bashpodder for podcasts. im actually currently working on a python script for podcasts
[12:15] <pixil9> Lito: try gtkpod
[12:15] <Lito> does work ok?
[12:16] <snowblink> Quinn_Storm, I'm waiting for my laptop to arrive which I'll install Ubuntu on. In the meantime, I have to VMware it on someone's spare windows box...
[12:16] <d> I thought this might be that rc.update thing innit? rc.update hotplug or summat?? (just guessing here)
[12:16] <liable> d: dpkg -L hotplug, what do you see
[12:16] <Quinn_Storm> snowblink: ah, I see.  the windows box I'm talking about is only a windows box b/c it has to be (only way I can use the wireless card I own), its a not-a-laptop (dead screen&battery) that sits in the corner silently bridging the network
[12:17] <d> liabe: hotplug seems to be installed then
[12:17] <Trickyphillips> snowblink: Can't you just use a timeserver?
[12:17] <d> how do I get it going at boot?
[12:17] <snowblink> Trickyphillips, I've tried everything. NTP, recompiling the kernel, etc. Whatever I do, the clock loses time
[12:18] <Trickyphillips> :(
[12:18] <liable> d: plug the device in, then, dmesg | tail, whats dmesg tell ya
[12:18] <xerox> hi!
[12:18] <goldfish> haylo
[12:18] <Trickyphillips> snowblink: Take a look at http://www.vmware.com/support/kb/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1225
[12:18] <Trickyphillips> I don't know if that will do anything for you.
[12:19] <d> liable: a proper newb quezzie this! I know I could just copy/paste yr pipe into a terminal, but what keyboard command is it to get that pipe?
[12:19] <pixil9> Is 5.04 one of two yearly releases?
[12:19] <d> I've got a UK keyboard here
[12:19] <nixbox> hi all
[12:19] <xerox> Just a question: while ago, there were _many_ updates, even hundreds of megs every two days.. why there aren't more now? apt-get update; upgrade; dist-upgrade, says it's all updated.. what's going on exactly?
[12:19] <nixbox> how to upgrade the package list in ubuntu?
[12:19] <netmatix_> oh my god guys
[12:19] <netmatix_> the menu editor just sucks
[12:19] <nixbox> i am trying to do "apt-get install nmap", it cant find the package
[12:19] <liable> d: on my keyboard, key above enter + shift (key with forward slash)
[12:19] <xerox> nixbox, apt-get update
[12:19] <netmatix_> i want the applications function back
[12:20] <seanj> hi people
[12:20] <snowblink> Trickyphillips, cheers - have to investigate the ACPI/APM angle. The problem with clock drifts is that it takes time to see if it's working or not!
[12:20] <nixbox> xerox, apt-get update quickly ends ...
[12:20] <xerox> nixbox, it downloads the last package listings from your repositories
[12:20] <netmatix_> whos using the menu editor?
[12:20] <liable> d: erm s/forward/backward
[12:20] <Trickyphillips> Well.. Good luck with it. :)
[12:20] <nixbox> xerox, within 2 seconds, i have installed ubuntu from the cds i had received, there should have been some updates available
[12:21] <xerox> nixbox, I'm experiencing the same thing, no updates from many days..
[12:21] <nixbox> xerox, within 2 seconds apt-get update ends .... does it really update, how can i be sure?
[12:21] <Quinn_Storm> xerox: nixbox that's b/c Hoary Hedgehog is released
[12:21] <netmatix_> please help... need to change apllications menu...menu eeditor sucks
[12:21] <snowblink> nixbox, xerox have you updated your repos?
[12:21] <Quinn_Storm> nixbox: apt-get update only updates the package lists, to update packages do apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:21] <cyphase> nixbox, have you added the appropriate repositories?
[12:21] <xerox> snowblink, what do you mean?
[12:22] <nixbox> Quinn_Storm, i know that, but there should be some updates to the list as well, it shouldnt end that quickly, should it?
[12:22] <snowblink> xerox, after install you may have to enable the online repositories
[12:22] <nixbox> cyphase, no .. i dont know how to add repositories
[12:22] <Quinn_Storm> nixbox: hoary hedgehog is pretty much stable now so actually there probably won't be much change
[12:22] <snowblink> xerox, check your sources.list
[12:22] <d> Oh yeah! Spotted it! Its right next to left shift on a UK keyboard
[12:22] <xerox> snowblink, I have it installed for some time.  It upgraded many times the first days.. then, no more updates!
[12:22] <snowblink> nixbox, xerox there will only be security updates for hoary from now on.
[12:22] <netmatix_> they dropped the cool applications function from nautilus
[12:22] <netmatix_> damnit
[12:23] <netmatix_> menu editor doesnt work for me
[12:23] <cyphase> nixbox, edit the /etc/apt/sources/list
[12:23] <xerox> snowblink, uh!
[12:23] <cyphase> file
[12:23] <cyphase> sources.lis*
[12:23] <cyphase> ahhhh..
[12:23] <cyphase> sources.list*
[12:23] <xerox> snowblink, interesting, is another release out there?
[12:23] <nixbox> cyphase, alright its updating now, thanks
[12:24] <marcin_ant> Quinn_Storm: well I got simmilar "problem" no updates in apt for about 7 days
[12:24] <snowblink> xerox, breezy = hoary+1
[12:24] <cyphase> nixbox, np
[12:24] <marcin_ant> Quinn_Storm: strange
[12:24] <Quinn_Storm> marcin_ant: yeah, hoary is released.
[12:24] <seanj> i uh, don't see a menu editor in the applications menu o_O
[12:24] <Quinn_Storm> marcin_ant: that's what being released means in ubuntu
[12:24] <snowblink> xerox, but that's the one they're working on
[12:24] <seanj> hoary
[12:24] <xerox> snowblink, so, by "updating your repos" you mean s/hoary/breezy/ in sources.list?
[12:24] <netmatix_> see
[12:24] <netmatix_> its gone
[12:24] <marcin_ant> Quinn_Storm: I know that it is released - but no updates at all?
[12:24] <snowblink> xerox, would not recommend that
[12:24] <snowblink> xerox, what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:24] <Quinn_Storm> marcin_ant: there's nothing that /needs/ updating
[12:24] <nixbox> if i start the update process while working, does it effect something? I mean can I continue working while the upgrade is going on?
[12:24] <d> Weird! I just did that dmesg | tail after plugging my USB pad in and its spewed some errors at me. I've had it working under LInux (on the PPC, too!) in the past
[12:24] <netmatix_> the menu edit function needs update..
[12:24] <Pirkei> where is the menu application editor?
[12:25] <netmatix_> yeah
[12:25] <netmatix_> exactly
[12:25] <netmatix_> my point
[12:25] <netmatix_> :-)
[12:25] <seanj> lol my usb gamepad died when i plugged it, it's toast
[12:25] <netmatix_> Pirkei
[12:25] <netmatix_> i got the same prob
[12:25] <xerox> snowblink, getting software updates!
[12:25] <liable> d: what errors?
[12:25] <netmatix_> LOL
[12:25] <xerox> snowblink, for example, GAIM says it's _old_, and no updates come from apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[12:25] <pixil9> gr how can i get my clock to goto 12 hour format?
[12:25] <netmatix_> menu editor is a joke compared to apllications function
[12:25] <seanj> i never did like the gnome menu setup, but since everything appears to be there i'm not complainin' :)
[12:26] <marcin_ant> Quinn_Storm: well really? gnome 2.10.1 released today and they won't provide packages for this release?
[12:26] <jaku> hi, I have a thinkpad r40e, the kayborad works well.. but i can not use the virtual numeric keyborad (numlock).. in the keyboard setting i can not fine my model.. any idea?
[12:26] <snowblink> xerox, your repositories are pointing to hoary?
[12:26] <Quinn_Storm> marcin_ant: not in hoary, it'll be in breezy, that's what "stable" means
[12:26] <netmatix_> i just want to add custom menu items
[12:26] <seanj> pixil9, right mouse click on the clock, select 12 hour format
[12:26] <xerox> snowblink, yes they are.
[12:26] <netmatix_> damnit
[12:26] <netmatix_> was so easy with debian
[12:26] <seanj> err "preferences" first lol sorry
[12:26] <nixbox> how can i search the for available packages, because when i do apt-get install nmap, it gives an error saying the package was not found.
[12:26] <sharke> netamix http://ubuntuguide.org/temp/#menu-editor
[12:26] <marcin_ant> Quinn_Storm: so... I should add some new repos to apt?
[12:26] <snowblink> xerox: well I'd install GAIM separately or use backports (if someone has done it)
[12:27] <Quinn_Storm> marcin_ant: well you -can- but breezy isn't quite ready yet
[12:27] <Quinn_Storm> nixbox: apt-cache search
[12:27] <snowblink> xerox, you can of course go to breezy, but then your have a less stable system
[12:27] <marcin_ant> Quinn_Storm: I see
[12:27] <marcin_ant> Quinn_Storm: ok
[12:27] <xerox> snowblink, it's strange because GAIM is in the default install, so I tought something was going wrong :)
[12:27] <seanj> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[12:27] <seanj>   libpcre3 nmap
[12:27] <seanj> hmm
[12:27] <pixil9> seanj: thanks.
[12:27] <seanj> np pixil9
[12:27] <xerox> snowblink, OK, thanks much for the help.
[12:27] <nixbox> ubuntu doesn't have nmap?
[12:27] <snowblink> nixbox, yes it does
[12:27] <seanj> i just installed hoary and nmap was available
[12:28] <netmatix_> hmm i already have the menu editor
[12:28] <nixbox> how can i install nmap then
[12:28] <mishof> Where would be a good folder to put a perl script in ? =P
[12:28] <netmatix_> but its just not good
[12:28] <netmatix_> cant change parent items
[12:28] <seanj> i put perl scripts in ~/bin/scripts/perl/
[12:28] <snowblink> nixbox, sudo apt-get install nmap
[12:28] <xerox> snowblink, last thing, when would it be OK to s/hoary/breezy/ down there?
[12:29] <seanj> as in mkdir -p ~/bin/scripts/perl && mv ~/*.pl ~/bin/scripts/pl :P
[12:29] <mishof> seanj, but i dont want it to be for my user only
[12:29] <nixbox> snowblink, it says it cant find the package
[12:29] <pixil9> another question.. anyone know where i can get some pimp themes?
[12:29] <snowblink> xerox, whenever you feel up to it
[12:29] <seanj> ohh ok mishof.. how about /usr/local/bin ?
[12:29] <liable> jaku: have a look at tpb, dunno if it does the numlock though
[12:29] <seanj> it's usually wise to put custom stuff in /usr/local some place
[12:29] <snowblink> nixbox, what repositories do you have enabled?
[12:29] <kent> pixil9, pimp themes?
[12:29] <pixil9> metacity themes :P
[12:29] <xerox> snowblink, interesting, in fact I installed hoary while he was a snapshot.  I think I'll breezy it out.
[12:29] <seanj> haha pimp! gnomelook.org ?
[12:30] <mishof> seanj, will i then be able to do from anywhere "perl foo.perl" (because its in PATH) or not ?
[12:30] <kent> pixil9, gnome-look.org
[12:30] <snowblink> xerox, hoary was near end of cycle. Breezy just started about a week ago
[12:30] <nixbox> snowblink, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[12:30] <nixbox> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[12:30] <seanj> mishof, if /usr/local/bin is in your search path, then yup :)
[12:30] <seanj> woohoo, it's in mine so i guess that's a default setting
[12:30] <cyphase> nixbox, oh, this is warty..
[12:30] <pixil9> alright
[12:30] <nixbox> whats the difference between warty and hoary
[12:31] <kent> pixil9, and art.gnome.org  (gnome-look.org and gnomelook.org is the same..)
[12:31] <seanj> i ordered a whole bunch of cd's but not sure when they might arrive so i downloaded Hoary last night.. so far I really like it
[12:31] <netmatix_> damn menu editor
[12:31] <netmatix_> its freaking me out
[12:31] <snowblink> nixbox, warty is 6 months old. Hoary is the latest release
[12:31] <snowblink> nixbox you should still have nmap on warty though
[12:31] <nixbox> snowblink, repositories for hoary?
[12:31] <snowblink> nixbox do you have lines which say warty (not warty-security)?
[12:31] <d> will there be a hoary maintenenance release?
[12:32] <jaku> liable: i installed tpb, but how I can set up it?
[12:32] <Pirkei> sean - kudos to Ubuntu - it found all my hardware.
[12:32] <netmatix_> does anyone use the menu editor?
[12:32] <netmatix_> its not working for me
[12:32] <nixbox> snowblink, yes but they are still commented, tell me the repositories for hoary so i can update
[12:32] <snowblink> nixbox, you can upgrade from warty to hoary, but you don't need to to get nmap
[12:32] <xerox> snowblink, in the end, is it hazard to pull breezy? but, is it the only way to get updated packages? would apt-get upgrade break something, without dist-upgrade breezy ?
[12:32] <netmatix_> doesnt save
[12:32] <liable> jaku: sorry dont know, I have all my buttons that I need working with ibm-acpi (dont use numlock)
[12:32] <seanj> nixbox, you could always check out the release notes if you want an idea of what changed: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504/document_view
[12:32] <snowblink> xerox - would recommend you just download and install gaim
[12:32] <nixbox> snowblink, how do i upgrad?e
[12:32] <xerox> snowblink, okay. Thanks again.
[12:33] <liable> jaku: but i'm sure there is a tutorial out there somewhere
[12:33] <snowblink> nixbox, uncomment those repos and try again
[12:33] <seanj> sorry xerox augh
[12:33] <d> liable: did you get my dmesg dump?
[12:33] <nixbox> snowblink, for upgrading to hoary?
[12:33] <seanj> it sure is busy in here
[12:33] <snowblink> nixbox, no. To get nmap
[12:33] <liable> d: what you messaged me?
[12:34] <d> liable: is it kernel recompile or nothing?
[12:34] <snowblink> nixbox, sorry but I don't have time to talk you through warty->hoary
[12:34] <e-type> hi all
[12:34] <e-type> fine days everywhere?
[12:34] <seanj> hi e-type
[12:34] <xerox> seanj, ?
[12:34] <d> liable: that was the output after plugging in my usb pad
[12:34] <seanj> so far!
[12:34] <e-type> nice ;)
[12:34] <d> liable: you didn't get it?
[12:34] <seanj> xerox, you asked what the diff was between warty and hoary, i figured the release notes would be helpful..
[12:34] <seanj> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504/document_view
[12:35] <liable> d: yep, didnt notice,
[12:35] <netmatix_> please anyone tell me how u edit your menu
[12:35] <netmatix_> menu editor doesnt work
[12:35] <xerox> seanj, I do _have_ hoary. I was thinking about breezy.
[12:35] <seanj> although it reads more like a sales pitch lol
[12:35] <seanj> oh. sorry
[12:35] <netmatix_> just doesnt save
[12:35] <seanj> i better keep quiet
[12:35] <netmatix_> the damn thing
[12:35] <liable> d: dont think kernel compile will help, tried googling the errors
[12:35] <xerox> seanj, I probably need another ChangeLog, the breezy one..
[12:35] <liable> d: what kernel you got?
[12:36] <seanj> hmm looks to me like apps for Hoary are pretty close to bleeding-edge.. i doubt there would be any advantage in using a development release
[12:36] <d> 2.6.10-5-k7
[12:36] <d> I'm running a Athlon machine
[12:36] <netmatix_> i want applications:// back
[12:36] <netmatix_> :-(
[12:36] <goldfish> hah
[12:36] <netmatix_> ubuntu rocks
[12:37] <xerox> seanj, do you know how to get a more recente GAIM?
[12:37] <netmatix_> but
[12:37] <netmatix_> missing applications:// sucks
[12:37] <netmatix_> as hell
[12:37] <goldfish> isn't there some editor you can get?
[12:37] <netmatix_> THEY NEED TO FIX THIS
[12:37] <netmatix_> its not worrking
[12:37] <netmatix_> the editor
[12:38] <seanj> holy crow, i didn't realise GAIM was so old.. geez.. no debs either on their site
[12:38] <d> Does this Ubuntu kernel support all major USB chipsets, or were some left out?
[12:38] <xerox> seanj, maybe we can tell someone competent to update the ubuntu's gaim deb?
[12:38] <seanj> lmao xerox
[12:39] <netmatix_> better tell them to get the menu eddit function working
[12:39] <netmatix_> LOL
[12:39] <seanj> i'm beginning to wonder.. outdated, insecure firefox, gaim too...
[12:39] <liable> d: can you use other usb devices
[12:39] <xerox> seanj, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23937
[12:39] <seanj> and the applications:// missing from gnome 2.10.. what were they thinking? i should go badger the gnome people
[12:39] <seanj> looking, xerox
[12:39] <netmatix_> yeah
[12:40] <seanj> xerox, any idea what "staging"  is? never heared of it
[12:40] <seanj> heard*
[12:40] <xerox> seanj, me neither
[12:41] <seanj> doh!
[12:41] <spiral> hi
[12:41] <seanj> this is kind of scary
[12:41] <seanj> hi spiral
[12:41] <spiral> could anyone help me with a wifi prism card ?
[12:41] <kent> hmm, now I only see 15k ~ submissions on hwdb.ubuntu.com.  Did i dream about seeing ~20k some day ago?
[12:41] <seanj> i guesssss the source code might be an option for some of this stuff but that does kinda defeat the purpose of all this
[12:42] <mHKm> where can i get linux source code?
[12:42] <njan> mHKm, if you mean the linux kernel, www.kernel.org
[12:42] <seanj> well, at least GAIM's Changelog doesn't indicate any sever security bugs
[12:42] <xerox> gaim:
[12:42] <xerox>   Installed: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4
[12:42] <xerox>   Candidate: 1:1.2.1-1~5.04ubp1
[12:42] <d> liable: I've used a externel USB2 HDD OK under Ubuntu on this machine
[12:42] <xerox> ta-da! It's not in -staging seanj
[12:43] <seanj> njan, it must have meant kernel cuz otherwise we'd be talking about GNU/Linux :P
[12:43] <mHKm> thanks njan
[12:43] <seanj> argh xerox .. great
[12:43] <njan> seanj, I don't use GNU/Linux :p
[12:43] <netmatix_> i tested almost every usage with ubuntu
[12:43] <netmatix_> it all rocks
[12:43] <njan> seanj, I use a distribution based around the linux kernel with some GNU tools slapped on for valueadd :p
[12:43] <seanj> lmao
[12:43] <xerox> seanj, yup -- then I'll comment out those backports, tough :-)
[12:43] <netmatix_> just the missing applications:///
[12:43] <netmatix_> sucks
[12:43] <mHKm> http://www.linuxsucks.org/
[12:43] <d> how about making sure uhci is loaded too? modprobe uhci or something is it?
[12:43] <mHKm> hehheh
[12:44] <seanj> that's too true, njan
[12:44] <seanj> i just felt like tooting the GNU horn for a sec, sorry
[12:44] <njan> seanj, ;)
[12:44] <GuruFF> helo :) i need help mounting drives and nautilus stuff...
[12:44] <liable> d: it'd be loaded, otherwise you wouldnt see anything from dmesg
[12:45] <seanj> this is strange for me, i'm a KDE kid but so far so good
[12:45] <aLeSD> hi
[12:45] <seanj> hyello!
[12:46] <liable> d: is there a newer kernel-image available on what your running
[12:46] <aLeSD> I compiled the vanilla kernel 2.6.10 ... but now I can't use nvidia driver and ipw2200 driver . How could I do?
[12:46] <GarySaved> Does anyone know what is up with Evolution in Breezy?
[12:47] <xerox> Anyway, thanks much everyone, byebye!
[12:47] <snowblink> oh theine quit. Anyway http://occy.net/node/56 for those who want to firefox to use emacs keybindings...
[12:47] <seanj> i really want to answer that thing about nvidia drivers but it would take pages
[12:47] <Quinn_Storm> GarySaved: one of the library packages has a wrong dependency (on 1.2-0 instead of 1.2-3)
[12:47] <nixbox> snowblink, just gimme some pointers
[12:47] <nixbox> snowblink, i will do the rest
[12:47] <PacoBCN> GarySaved, I wouldn't move to breezy yet
[12:47] <spiral> nobody for prism wifi ?
[12:47] <linux_galore> aLeSD: the nvidia installer needs to be run again with a new kernel
[12:47] <aLeSD> seanj: I have to compile them another time... but I'm newby of ubuntu
[12:48] <PacoBCN> GarySaved, I find it much more buggie than when Hoary showed up for testing
[12:48] <seanj> aLeSD, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/Official_nVidia <- might help
[12:48] <e-type> spiral: what's the trouble?
[12:48] <seanj> the basic instructions are there
[12:48] <snowblink> nixbox, check the wiki - there is a page about upgrading
[12:48] <GarySaved> PacoBCN, Sounds like a major headache to switch back to Hoary.
[12:48] <snowblink> nixbox, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes/view?searchterm=upgrade
[12:48] <spiral> e-type: when I type 'iwconfig', it says me that the device isn't ready...
[12:49] <d> liable: yeah, I'm downloading 2.6.11 now...
[12:49] <PacoBCN> GarySaved, hehe, I don't know that, for the first time in my life I could resist the tentation of upgrading
[12:49] <e-type> spiral: you got the kernel module loaded?
[12:49] <spiral> and when I try ifconfig it, I get a "timeout expiration"
[12:49] <e-type> and wlan0 is present?
[12:49] <spiral> e-type: not wlan0, eth0...
[12:49] <spiral> but the module prism54 is loaded
[12:50] <GarySaved> PacoBCN, Hehe ... I do like being on the bleeding edge!
[12:50] <e-type> spiral: should be that alright
[12:50] <GarySaved> I lost USB too.
[12:50] <kent> PacoBCN, its a wellknown fact that new development-branches are VERY buggy for some time. Wait some month and you can change and have just the "normal" problems..
[12:50] <PacoBCN> kent, Yes, I even remember when wasty was buggy :D
[12:51] <GarySaved> It will go back to everything stable, if I chenge 'breezy' to 'hoary' in my package reposatories?
[12:51] <liable> d: what are you trying to connect anywho
[12:51] <kent> PacoBCN, I didn't use ubuntu at that time. I started using it with the very last pre-release of warty. And it had no problems.
[12:51] <Gandalfar> after upgrading to breezy my sata drives aren't recognized anymore
[12:52] <PacoBCN> kent, well, Ubuntu convinced me even when it was buggy :)
[12:52] <GarySaved> Gandalfar, I believe that is a USB problem.  THey are hooked in thru USB ?
[12:52] <e-type> spiral: what card is it exactly?
[12:52] <Gandalfar> GarySaved: no, through motherboard sata controller
[12:53] <PacoBCN> kent, and convinced very "convinced" fedora users to switch to Ubuntu... and without paying them!
[12:53] <GarySaved> Well, I am off to switch.  Thanks!
[12:53] <Gandalfar> GarySaved: /dev/sda and /dev/sdb just dissapered
[12:53] <pixil9> Ubuntu is damn nice. I'm gonna make my friends and family run it who don't game
[12:53] <larsrohdin> when i play a .avi file in mplayer, the sound sometimes cant keep up with the movie... what can be wrong?
[12:53] <aLeSD> I have the same problem for the ipw2200 driver
[12:54] <pixil9> lars: how slow is your computer
[12:54] <seanj> pixil9, looks like cvs Cedega is going to fix most qualms i have about losing my games, too :)
[12:54] <erik_> anyone know why kopete and amsn dont work in ubuntu?
[12:54] <seanj> erik_, no kde?
[12:54] <PacoBCN> larsrohdin, you mean it's not syncronized?
[12:54] <pixil9> seanj: what is that?
[12:54] <larsrohdin> pixil9, not slow...it works fine when i try the clip in windows... its a new computer
[12:54] <erik_> i have installed kde, but it dont pop up as an alternative in the login screen
[12:55] <larsrohdin> PacoBCN, exectly... pardon my bad english=)
[12:55] <seanj> pixil9, it's a fork of WINE you can get at transgaming.com, subcription $$$ but you can also get it using cvs and pray that it builds using gcc
[12:55] <seanj> runs directx games..
[12:55] <seanj> some
[12:55] <Pirkei> seanj how can i get a copy of cedega?
[12:55] <kent> erik_, you have to write more than "dont work", like, what is the problem more exactly..
[12:55] <larsrohdin> Pirkei, www.transgaming.com right?
[12:55] <seanj> sec, i'll go find the link for cvs
[12:55] <seanj> they hide it :/
[12:55] <pixil9> ah
[12:55] <erik_> amsn and kopete dont log me in
[12:55] <Pirkei> Thank You :)
[12:55] <PacoBCN> larsrohdin, don't worry, my English is even worse :), BTW, I heard there are problems sometimes with mplayer syncro
[12:55] <erik_> so i cant chat on msn
[12:55] <pitti> Hey ogra
[12:56] <PacoBCN> larsrohdin, did you try totem-xine?
[12:56] <ogra> hey pitti
[12:56] <PacoBCN> larsrohdin, never had problems of that type with it
[12:56] <pixil9> my comp sux anyway.. 1.06 ghz
[12:56] <kent> erik_, and you are sure you have the login-stuff correct? Does gaim work?
[12:56] <erik_> yes it should be correct. Tryed gaim to, same problem
[12:56] <seanj> mine's 1.6 and some things still drag... most of my games are oldish tho so that's ok
[12:56] <larsrohdin> PacoBCN, ok, ill have to try...
[12:57] <PacoBCN> larsrohdin, and the gui is much much nicer
[12:57] <Pirkei> lol Ubuntu gave my old macine a new life - my 2.9g new machine is idle 'cept for gamming
[12:57] <seanj> here we go, Cedega CVS: http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php
[12:57] <snowblink> erik_, check your firewall ports
[12:57] <seanj> probably could have guessed that url lol
[12:57] <kent> erik_, if you also have problems with gaim, and the other clients. Then most likely it is something wrong with either the login/password, network or something. Becaus gaim works for me, and I do recall testing Kopete aswell some time ago.
[12:57] <larsrohdin> yeah, but i use to run mplayer with xmms... it worked perfect until yesterday=) but ill give totem-xine a try
[12:58] <erik_> kent, i use msn in windows, and it works fine there
[12:58] <Pirkei> I missed the link - sorry.
[12:58] <cyphase> Poll: Who thinks Gaim and GnomeMeeting should be merged?
[12:58] <erik_> snowblink, dont have a firewal right now
[12:58] <Gandalfar> huh, I can see the sata drive in /proc/scsi/scsi
[12:58] <pixil9> so is cedega all OpenGL?
[12:59] <Gandalfar> pixil9: it uses opengl for drawing stuff to screen
[12:59] <pixil9> cool
[12:59] <seanj> i'm not sure pixil9, i knoow OpenGL games work very well most of the time.. i'm only guessing that their directx stuff converts to OpenGL
[12:59] <Pirkei> it also supports Directx 8
[12:59] <seanj> and a little of 9 for Half Life 2
[12:59] <seanj> just enough, i think lol
[01:00] <seanj> <3 marketting :)
[01:00] <rizla> good morning
[01:00] <seanj> hello, rizla
[01:00] <rizla> hi seanj
[01:00] <pixil9> cool
[01:00] <kent> erik_, but you settings for the network might not be the same as in windows. Do some of the clients give you an error of any kind?
[01:00] <rizla> i've a problem: i can't install avidemux
[01:00] <pixil9> I'd pay for cedega if it worked really good
[01:00] <pixil9> i'd never use windows again
[01:00] <PacoBCN> just for curiosity, how much do virgin DVDs (4.7Gb) cost where you live?
[01:01] <larsrohdin> PacoBCN, yeah it seems to work better, thanks alot!
[01:01] <Pirkei> seanj Did i miss the URL?
[01:01] <erik_> kent, no just login error
[01:01] <pixil9> PacoBCN: 50 cents
[01:01] <pixil9> er no 25 cents
[01:01] <PacoBCN> larsrohdin, you're welcome
[01:01] <seanj> Pirkei, it's http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php
[01:01] <rizla> PacoBCN, if i buy 50 or more Dvd, i pay 0,35 each one
[01:02] <PacoBCN> pixil9, cents of what? :)
[01:02] <pixil9> PacoBCN: canadian
[01:02] <rizla> PacoBCN, 0,35 euro/cent
[01:02] <kent> erik_, as in "Login error" and nothing more than that?
[01:02] <PacoBCN> pixil9, ok, more or less like here in Spain
[01:02] <larsrohdin> in sweden we have kronor... if you want to make it even more confusing=)
[01:02] <eleusis> sup
[01:03] <koba> hello
[01:03] <PacoBCN> rizla, that's in Italy, right?
[01:03] <eleusis> kronor?
[01:03] <rizla> yes PacoBCN
[01:03] <PacoBCN> rizla, ok, thanks
[01:03] <larsrohdin> yeah our money is called kronor
[01:03] <erik_> kent, it just stops in the middle of the login.
[01:03] <koba> could anyone kindly tell me how to assign keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[01:03] <eleusis> hi
[01:03] <koba> hiya
[01:03] <goldfish> koba: there something in the menu
[01:03] <goldfish> afaik
[01:03] <kent> larsrohdin, you do know about #ubuntu.se ? The coolest idle-place there is! :)
[01:04] <eleusis> larsrohdin: kronor? i thought it was sek..
[01:04] <koba> I've looked...which one?
[01:04] <erik_> kent, now i got reading error
[01:04] <koba> I mean...shortcuts to open specific programs and the like
[01:04] <Mipfi> i don't find gstreamer0.8-lame ?? how can i install it ?
[01:04] <erik_> on Getting cookie
[01:04] <larsrohdin> eleusis, yeah SEK is short for Svenska kronor = Swedish kronor... kronor = crowns...
[01:05] <kent> erik_, reading error?  I meen, does it say "Reading error" or something more? It seems strange that it dont work,  its probably just something with your network..
[01:05] <eleusis> ahhh
[01:05] <eleusis> makes sense :D
[01:05] <larsrohdin> like in USA there money isnt called USD...right=?
[01:05] <eleusis> yeah
[01:05] <erik_> kent, the network should be fine
[01:05] <eleusis> hmm
[01:06] <eleusis> when is ubuntu-calendar-april being released? :P
[01:06] <snowblink> eleusis, out already
[01:06] <eleusis> it is?
[01:06] <snowblink> eleusis, green with some hand prints
[01:06] <eleusis> hmm
[01:06] <kent> erik_, well, I doubt it. I meen, its very unlikly that all msn-clients at the same time dont work for you, when they work for other people..  But file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com and it might get solved.. they respond very quickly there.
[01:06] <snowblink> eleusis, maybe not on warty though...
[01:06] <eleusis> :)
[01:07] <erik_> kent, ok thanks
[01:07] <eleusis> snowblink: how do i get it?
[01:07] <snowblink> eleusis, you're on hoary?
[01:07] <eleusis> snowblink: no.. debian unstable ;)
[01:08] <snowblink> eleusis, heh - well it's a security package under hoary
[01:08] <eleusis> rofl
[01:08] <eleusis> security
[01:08] <darmou> urm zope2.7 is now broken:(
[01:08] <snowblink> eleusis, that way you can get updates...
[01:08] <eleusis> righto
[01:08] <snowblink> eleusis, as hoary is only supposed to be security updates from now on
[01:09] <darmou> it keeps coming up with syntax errors on configure when trying to compile the python
[01:09] <ntoll> darmou, zope2.7 was never well packaged in Ubuntu/debian anyway....
[01:09] <darmou> ntoll so what should I do, wait for an update?
[01:09] <eleusis> yeah
[01:09] <ntoll> it would barf when I tried to uninstall it
[01:09] <ntoll> I would install from source
[01:10] <abood> hi all
[01:10] <cyphase> hey abood
[01:11] <snowblink> grrrrr... gmail hijacks / for it's own search purposes. I wonder what made them think that wouldn't piss people off...
[01:11] <resiak> InitMass: People in #debian coincide with people in #ubuntu ;)
[01:12] <InitMass> resiak, ok but often i get faster answer in debian
[01:12] <PDani> hi
[01:13] <kent> snowblink, hijacks / ?
[01:13] <InitMass> resiak, how do i check if it is compiled with that option or not?
[01:13] <eleusis> what's the difference between hoary-security and hoary-updates?
[01:13] <PDani> i can't install gnome-alsamixer package, but there's a directory at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/ named gnome-alsamixer
[01:14] <PDani> i'm using hoary
[01:14] <resiak> InitMass: urxvt -h
[01:14] <mishof> how do i restart an apache2 server?
[01:15] <InitMass> resiak, ok i can't see that -bl option so i assume it's compiled without it
[01:15] <snowblink> kent, I'm looking at a thread. I press / to find someone's name in the thread, but I end up in the gmail search box as opposed to Firefox's
[01:16] <kent> snowblink, oh..  can webpages hijack the browsers commands? strange..
[01:16] <eleusis> wtf
[01:17] <snowblink> kent, gmail has lots of keyboard shortcuts enabled
[01:17] <resiak> InitMass: More to the point, in the first few lines it tells you what compile-time options it was built with. If frills isn't in there, you'll need to compile it with frills.
[01:17] <pixil9> grr I can't add any themes.. they jus tdon't show up in the list but they say they're added correctly
[01:17] <smouche> there's a setting if firefox preferences to how much control to permit java-script actions on web pages
[01:18] <eleusis> snowblink
[01:18] <resiak> InitMass: Alternatively, you may be able to tell Fluxbox to not draw decorations on that window. Openbox has this in every window's right-click menu, but it only persists for that incarnation of that window.
[01:18] <snowblink> smouche, yes, but I think google should change their keybinding - have suggested that they do
[01:18] <seanj> smouche, funny how that option exists in Mozilla suite but not Firefox, huh? :/
[01:18] <eleusis> the new calendar package is in hoary-updates
[01:18] <eleusis> not hoary-security :P
[01:18] <kent> snowblink, that seems like something which should be very not-lega-at-all :(
[01:18] <snowblink> eleusis, ah fair enuf.  Sorry
[01:19] <eleusis> :)
[01:19] <snowblink> eleusis, under warty they were security
[01:19] <eleusis> ah, ok
[01:19] <InitMass> resiak, man urxvt show: -bl Compile frills: Set MWM hints to request a borderless window, i.e.           if honoured by the WM, the rxvt-unicode window will not have window           decorations; resource borderLess.
[01:20] <eleusis> wooo
[01:20] <eleusis> i see hands!
[01:20] <snowblink> kent: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6594
[01:20] <pixil9> The default theme manager wants metacity themes correct?
[01:20] <eleusis> i think i still prefer the nude images though :>
[01:20] <InitMass> resiak, i would prefer not to tell fluxbox because then it will open every terminal without border and i just want one without
[01:21] <kent> Is there some way to get back the default sources.list in ubuntu hoary?
[01:21] <kev0r> anyone here know how i can format a ntfs disk, it's 2 partitions
[01:21] <kev0r>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:21] <kev0r> /dev/hdb1               1        1275    10241406    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:21] <kev0r> /dev/hdb2            1276        3738    19784047+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:21] <snowblink> eleusis, I think it was a little controversial
[01:21] <InitMass> resiak, ok the man pages was inrelevant but urxvt -h doesn't show frills...
[01:21] <kev0r> how am i to make it 1 disk again, readable for linux
[01:22] <koba> ok...that is sorted
[01:23] <resiak> InitMass: Yeah. Well, what I was describing was being able to make any window temporarily (until you unset it or close the window) borderless by Alt-RightClick, Decorations. You could probably make a symlink urxvtborderless to urxvt, and make Fluxbox make instances of urxvtborderless borderless.
[01:23] <eleusis> i still like them :)
[01:23] <kent> eleusis,  hoary-updates? I have hoary main restricted, universe and multiverse in the repositories. But no line saying updates.. :(
[01:23] <pixil9> The default theme manager wants metacity themes correct?
[01:23] <eleusis> wtf
[01:23] <eleusis> i must have a special mirror, then
[01:23] <koba> is there any way of assigning several terminal commands to a shortcut in the gconf-editor?
[01:23] <eleusis> ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu/dists/
[01:24] <koba> actually, I suppose I could write a shell script
[01:24] <nixbox> snowblink, i did what was mentioned in the wiki, it downloaded 40 files, and installed them, now when i run apt-get it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 22 not upgraded.
[01:24] <erik_> ARRGGHH
[01:25] <smouche> kent, you can simply comment out the stuff you added, and keep the main repos -- is that whay you mean?
[01:25] <snowblink> eleusis, me too, but my boss doesn't
[01:25] <InitMass> resiak, if i understand you correctly. i don't think fluxbox can see any difference between windows of the same app. eg if i set flux to remember the window size of firefox every popup window will get the same size too
[01:25] <snowblink> nixbox, have you done a dist-upgrade?
[01:25] <pixil9> fuck does anyone know how to change themes?
[01:26] <cyphase> pixil9: System -> Preferences -> Themes
[01:26] <eleusis> screw the boss :P
[01:26] <cyphase> Theme*
[01:26] <resiak> InitMass: That's why I suggested making a differently-named symlink to /usr/bin/rxvt-unicode -- it may well be that Flux can tell the difference. Alternatively, you can apt-get source rxvt-unicode and rebuild it, and tell dpkg to hold that version.
[01:26] <pixil9> cyphase: i went there but whenever i add a new metacity theme it says no problem but it won't list :(
[01:27] <kent> smouche, no, not realy. But I figured it out. I have added updates now. So now i got the ubuntu-calander and a update fir firefox-locale..
[01:27] <cyphase> hmm..
[01:27] <cyphase> whats the theme?
[01:27] <pixil9> clear looks off gnome-look
[01:27] <pixil9> clear looks industrial
[01:27] <InitMass> resiak, it might be better to rebuild it then
[01:27] <resiak> InitMass: I could see if I have my .deb lying around if you want.
[01:28] <newbie> How come when i kill an application with xkill, i cant repoen it until i reset?
[01:28] <resiak> InitMass: (I stopped using my hand-rolled one a while back, so even if I still have it it's a few revisions out of date.)
[01:28] <cyphase> pixil9: doesn't Clearlooks come preinstalled?
[01:28] <nixbox> snowblink, i was using synaptic, i just changed warty to hoary and marked all packages and then apply
[01:28] <cyphase> pixil9: well, whats the link?
[01:29] <pixil9> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22513
[01:29] <InitMass> resiak, i can try compiling it by myself
[01:29] <InitMass> resiak, thanks anyway
[01:29] <resiak> InitMass: Sure.
[01:29] <InitMass> resiak, i prefer up to date ;)
[01:29] <snowblink> nixbox, I don't know how to use synaptic to do a distupgrade. I'd do it command line...
[01:29] <resiak> InitMass: You know how to use debian/rules binary, apt-get source etc?
[01:30] <pixil9> cyphase: I can't install any of the metacity ones :(
[01:31] <InitMass> resiak, i know how to compile things but not how to make a .deb file out of it
[01:31] <InitMass> resiak, maybe if i tried using alien
[01:31] <InitMass> resiak, but maybe that's not possible in this case
[01:32] <resiak> InitMass: Rather than ./configure, make, make install, Debianised source packages have a debian/ directory with a rules makefile within. You can modify rules to add compile-time flags, then just run ./debian/rules binary and it will configure make and build .devs
[01:32] <seanj> that's a first, i'm used to some games not working with Cedega but now i can't get any going hehe
[01:32] <seanj> pthreads
[01:32] <resiak> InitMass: .debs. apt-get source rxvt-unicode should get the Debianised source stuffs into your current directory. (In this context, Debianised ~== Ubuntuised ;))
[01:33] <kent> I have a problem with gnome opening firefox to handle ftp://*. I use epiphany as default browser and IF the browser should handle ftp, then atleast I want epiphany and not firefox to handle ftp://.  But i cant find the place to change which handles ftp://  :(
[01:33] <InitMass> resiak, should i uninstall the version i already got?
[01:34] <resiak> InitMass: dpkg -i newpackage.deb will replace the current version with the new version.
[01:34] <March-RX8> hello
[01:34] <resiak> InitMass: Then you'll want to hold your new deb so that it doesn't get "upgraded" to the official one. I'll make dpkg tell you how.
[01:35] <InitMass> resiak, which file did you say i should modify to add tings?
[01:35] <March-RX8> could someone help me? i need to mount correctly an hd drive
[01:35] <resiak> InitMass: You untar the source, and in that directory, vi ./debian/rules
[01:35] <koba> hiya...do you know if the standard cd/dvd burner allows multisession?
[01:35] <resiak> InitMass: I gotta go now, I'm afraid. Good luck!
[01:35] <InitMass> resiak, much text in that file huh
[01:36] <InitMass> resiak, thanks
[01:36] <resiak> InitMass: trial and error ;)
[01:37] <amias> March: probably , whats the drive type , filesystem and where do you want to mount it
[01:39] <March-RX8> my problem is, the hd get mounted by everyone but only root can access it
[01:41] <dany_88> ciao
[01:41] <cyphase> http://www.snibworks.com/flashbanners/ff2/ff2.html
[01:41] <amias> March-RX8: un mount it and look at the permissions of the /dev node and of the mount point
[01:41] <GNAM> umask=000, march-rx8
[01:41] <erik_> hmm, i cant even google in ubuntu
[01:43] <March-RX8> thanks, with umask=000 it runs correctly
[01:43] <kent> erik_, and thats becaus your network-settings needs some taking care of  ;)
[01:43] <March-RX8> by the way, i cant write in it
[01:43] <amias> ubuntu sees my harddisk perfectly and the install is fine but when i reboot grub doesn't work
[01:43] <erik_> kent, cant find anything wrong in it. Its set up with dhcp, and vpn
[01:43] <March-RX8> while mounting in rw mode
[01:44] <amias> March-RX8: check the device node permissions
[01:46] <March-RX8> is it an ntfs formatted hd, does ubuntu support writing in it
[01:47] <amias> March-RX8: you have to enable experimental kernel options for ntfs writing
[01:47] <March-RX8> can i found them in synaptic?
[01:49] <theine> March-RX8, so even as root you can't write to the ntfs partition?
[01:49] <amias> March-RX8: no distros support it by default cos its not stable yet
[01:50] <March-RX8> ok, i just read from it. better than nothing
[01:50] <amias> March-RX8: i doubt ubunutu will support it cos NTFS is proprietary and patented
[01:50] <julian11> i have a pinnacle pctv
[01:50] <March-RX8> thanks for all amias
[01:50] <julian11> and scantv find some channels
[01:51] <amias> March-RX8: np :)
[01:51] <julian11> but xawtv... has de screen in dark
[01:51] <IIIEars> Which T.V. Tuner cards work really well with Ubuntu?
[01:51] <amias> julian11: try tvtime its much better
[01:52] <amias> IIIEars: anything with a bt848 chip should be fine
[01:52] <IIIEars> do any support cable decoding?
[01:52] <fenglin> where the XF86Setup?
[01:52] <IIIEars> bt848 (makes a note) is that mpeg4?
[01:52] <fenglin> where the XF86Setup?
[01:53] <amias> IIIEars: no just analogue tv
[01:53] <IIIEars> < Would love to have HDTV recording.
[01:53] <fenglin> where the XF86Setup?
[01:53] <cyphase> Poll: What's your favorite IRC server?
[01:54] <fenglin> debian
[01:54] <amias> IIIEars: huppage do one that does that , see the mythtv pages i think its called a DVB350 or something similar
[01:54] <amias> fenglin: the command or the config file ?
[01:55] <julian11> ok i'll try tvtime
[01:55] <IIIEars> Haupage is windows though isn't it?
[01:55] <fenglin> amias config file
[01:55] <IIIEars> googling
[01:58] <Fab2> hi
[01:58] <Fab2> should i use kernel 686 instead of 386 if i have a pentium 4?
[01:59] <Fab2> or rather, what kind of benefit do i have from 686 kernel?
[02:01] <cyphase> Poll: What's your favorite IRC server?
[02:01] <lizdeika> irc.freenode.net
[02:01] <Bazzi> cyphase shuddup? :)
[02:01] <nixbox> snowblink, its showing a list of packages that have been kept back
[02:01] <cyphase> i meant irc server software
[02:02] <cyphase> lol
[02:02] <goldfish> hybird is good
[02:02] <goldfish> *hybrid
[02:02] <goldfish> no emm
[02:02] <goldfish> ircd-hybrid ?
[02:02] <goldfish> i think is the name
[02:03] <cyphase> yea
[02:03] <Fab2> can anyone tell me?
[02:05] <goldfish> emm, n00b q, just reading a script that uses 'import -window' 2 take a screenshot, import command is not found, what do i need to install?
[02:05] <Fab2> please :(
[02:05] <Fab2> goldfish: imagemagick
[02:05] <Fab2> or however its spelled
[02:05] <goldfish> oh right
[02:06] <goldfish> thanks
[02:06] <Fab2> if its the ubuntuforums thread, it even says so there ;
[02:06] <Fab2> np
[02:06] <goldfish> Fab2: hah
[02:06] <goldfish> Fab2: I didn't read the post properly :)
[02:06] <goldfish> just the script bit
[02:06] <nixbox> i have done apt-get dist-upgrade and its showing a list of packages that have been kept back
[02:06] <Fab2> its a nice script btw
[02:06] <goldfish> aye
[02:06] <SiRrUs> hello guys
[02:07] <Fab2> id still like to know what benefit i'd have of using 686 kernel instead of 386
[02:07] <Fab2> lol
[02:07] <koba> hi again..
[02:07] <Fab2> hi
[02:07] <Bazzi> Fab2 an amazing 4% speed gain!
[02:07] <koba> this system is really growing on me...
[02:07] <Fab2> bazzi: cool, ill use it then ;P
[02:08] <koba> I have a quick query...
[02:08] <Fab2> koba: make your point ;)
[02:08] <timmow> Fab2 there are no disadvantages that ive noticed
[02:08] <koba> is there any way of saving the gconf setup?
[02:08] <linuxboy> Bazzi: are you serious ?
[02:08] <koba> if I spend ages defining loads of nifty shortcuts...I want to be able to save my settings
[02:08] <Mitario> hello everyone
[02:08] <eleusis> splitnode!
[02:09] <Bazzi> linuxboy he wanted to have something ;)
[02:09] <Fab2> eleusis: indeed!
[02:09] <Mitario> does anyone know what The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. means?
[02:09] <Fab2> koba: sry, i dont know
[02:09] <Linforcer> Can anyone help me with soime keyboard issues?
[02:09] <Fab2> koba: but i guess the settings are saved somewhere in a file
[02:09] <Linforcer> some*
[02:09] <Fab2> maybe in ~/.gconf or something
[02:09] <linuxboy> Bazzi: ;)
[02:09] <SiRrUs> Linforcer just ask your question
[02:09] <Fab2> bazzi/timmow: i need to uninstall the 386 kernel after installing the 686, or not?
[02:10] <Linforcer> Ok.
[02:10] <Bazzi> Fab2 no
[02:10] <Bazzi> it can rot on your hd
[02:10] <Fab2> bazzi: okay, ty
[02:10] <Bazzi> I have 3 kernels currently
[02:10] <koba> hmm...
[02:11] <Linforcer> I want to use my right alt to make things like that spanish reversed ! and ? and a bunch of other symbols. I tried setting it tom use alt as " third level chooser"  but either it doesn't work or I'm misunderstanding "third level chooser"
[02:11] <Linforcer> can anyone tell me how to assign these symbols to keycombinations?
[02:11] <koba> maybe I shall try saving the whole of the ~/.gconf folder
[02:11] <Quinn_Storm> hey anyone know whats up with fontconfig in breezy?
[02:12] <timmow> Fab2: I didn't, but i guess you can to save space in the bootloader
[02:12] <Fab2> bazzi: sry to still bother you, is there any disadvantage of removing it?
[02:12] <goldfish> Is there an optomized kernel for Pentium M machines ?
[02:12] <Fab2> timmow: :) bazzi told me already, but thanks
[02:14] <Quinn_Storm> well I'll bbl
[02:14] <antich> hello
[02:14] <antich> i update the ubuntu system to hoary
[02:15] <antich> when i make a apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:15] <antich> i have this problem
[02:15] <antich> Preconfiguring packages ...
[02:15] <antich> (Leyendo la base de datos ...
[02:15] <antich> 101777 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
[02:15] <antich> Preparando para reemplazar kmail 4:3.2.2-2 (usando .../kmail_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu10_i386.deb) ...
[02:15] <antich> Desempaquetando el reemplazo de kmail ...
[02:15] <antich> Reemplazando ficheros del paquete antiguo libkdenetwork2 ...
[02:15] <antich> dpkg: error al procesar /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu10_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:15] <antich>  intentando sobreescribir `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/scalable/apps/kmail.svgz', que est tambin en el paquete kdelibs-data
[02:15] <antich> dpkg-deb: el subproceso paste fue terminado por la seal (Broken pipe)
[02:15] <antich> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[02:15] <antich>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu10_i386.deb
[02:15] <antich> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:15] <antich> a solution?
[02:16] <goldfish> holy shit
[02:17] <spiral> is there anyone who can help me with a prism wifi card ?
[02:18] <spiral> please
[02:20] <Moe|Joe|c> hi people
[02:20] <Moe|Joe|c> need help
[02:20] <Moe|Joe|c> wen i put my USB Memory stick in my laptop....ubuntu wont detect the USB Memory Stick
[02:21] <brrrt> how can i get gvidcap in ubuntu, or how can i capture videos from my webcam?
[02:22] <HiddenWolf> Does anyone know of a program that can rip from .flac to .mp3?
[02:23] <cyphase> whats everyone's favorite linux distro?
[02:23] <cyphase> ;)
[02:24] <HiddenWolf> cyphase: slack :P
[02:24] <IIIEars> Ubuntu (fromerly FreeBSD)
[02:24] <waltz> I'm still with Win32 :(
[02:25] <deFrysk> HiddenWolf, googel for flac2mp3
[02:25] <IIIEars> waltz - did you have trouble installing Ubuntu?
[02:26] <gds> hi
[02:26] <PacoBCN> gds, hi
[02:26] <IIIEars> Hi
[02:26] <Moe|Joe|c> can anyone help me why my ubuntu install wont detect my USB Memory Stick
[02:26] <deFrysk> HiddenWolf, http://www.bytemonkey.org
[02:26] <IIIEars> Is it formatted FAT32?
[02:27] <Moe|Joe|c> tink so
[02:27] <Moe|Joe|c> or mebbe jus FAT
[02:27] <sobersabre> is there an ubuntu bootsplash howto somewhere ?
[02:27] <IIIEars> Do your other USB devices work okay?
[02:27] <Moe|Joe|c> erm
[02:27] <mdke> hi there guys. I wanted to raise a discussion about ubuntuguide.org I have dealt with lots of users recently who have had their systems mucked up by adding marillat repositories as recommended by that guide. I work with the doc team and was interested in finding out if people have had the same experiences in this channel. Any contributions welcome, thanks. Matt
[02:27] <Moe|Joe|c> havnt tried any others
[02:27] <Moe|Joe|c> as im running it on my laptop
[02:28] <Moe|Joe|c> im gona try my m8s memory stick on my laptop a min
[02:28] <Goshawk> sobersabre, ubuntuforum search splashy
[02:28] <PacoBCN> my memory stick is recognized succesfuly in my laptop
[02:28] <sobersabre> Goshawk, thanks.
[02:28] <Goshawk> sobersabre, or search splashy on google
[02:28] <Moe|Joe|c> nope my mates dont work either
[02:29] <Moe|Joe|c> bt i knw the USB port works coz i had it working on windows last nite
[02:29] <inc__> anyone use an ipod shuffle with ubuntu yet?
[02:29] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, did you try manually mounting it?
[02:29] <Goshawk> IIIEars, they works fine on hoary (mine works)
[02:29] <IIIEars> (Knock on wood) _Everything_ went smoothly for me lol even my USB printer printed a page with a single click - thats better than it did in windows - wide grin
[02:29] <Moe|Joe|c> u got the command?
[02:29] <PacoBCN> this is the portion of mtab about my memory stick:
[02:29] <PacoBCN> /dev/sdb1 /media/MEDION vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,sync,noatime,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[02:30] <Moe|Joe|c> i 4got the command
[02:30] <PacoBCN> Moe, did you try fdisk to see if the sys sees it?
[02:31] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, command: fdisk -l
[02:31] <itay> I can't opem Midis. what is the problem?
[02:31] <IIIEars> Paco - I saw someone testing their USB device with "dmsg | tail" is that a good idea?
[02:31] <pieter_> hi all
[02:31] <itay> How can I check OSS or ALSA?
[02:32] <Moe|Joe|c> tht the command to show if the USB stick is connected to the laptop?
[02:32] <itay> hi pieter!
[02:32] <pieter_> anyone know what package I should install to get my intel pro/100 wireless working
[02:32] <PacoBCN> IIIEars, dmsg will surely tell you info
[02:32] <pieter_> ?
[02:32] <pieter_> hi itay
[02:32] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, what's the output?
[02:32] <PacoBCN> do you see any sda? sda1? etc?
[02:32] <pieter_> I got the ipw2200 module loaded, but no wlan0 device...
[02:32] <Moe|Joe|c> fdisk: invalid option -- 1
[02:32] <itay> Why I can't hear midi files?
[02:32] <Moe|Joe|c> thts wot i got
[02:33] <inc__> nobody use ipod shuffle on ubuntu yet?
[02:33] <Moe|Joe|c> woops
[02:33] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, it's "l" not a 1
[02:33] <PacoBCN> :D
[02:33] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, fdisk -l
[02:33] <Moe|Joe|c> "can not open /dev/sda"
[02:33] <Chameleon22> does anyone know of any GUI app I could use to connect to checkpoint vpn using shared secrets rather then certificates? or anything really besides open swan.
[02:34] <Moe|Joe|c> and ive tedted the memory sticks on a windows comp and they work fine
[02:34] <HiddenWolf> ugh, which package do I need to be able to rip to mp3?
[02:34] <Moe|Joe|c> *teste
[02:34] <Moe|Joe|c> **tested
[02:34] <cyphase> does anyone here use icecast?
[02:35] <theine> HiddenWolf, I heard you can do it with sound-juicer
[02:35] <occy> snowblink: :)
[02:35] <HiddenWolf> theine: I'm missing the option, there
[02:35] <IIIEars> Would tis be a good idea?          "mkdir media/sda >> mount  -orw VFAT /dev/sda /media/sda"
[02:35] <theine> HiddenWolf, yeah, you have to add a new encoder manually, google for sound-juicer mp3
[02:35] <PacoBCN> IIIEars, at least it's a try :D
[02:36] <inc__> nevermind found gtkpod
[02:36] <Moe|Joe|c> any ideas?
[02:37] <IIIEars> oops mount -o rw -t VFAT /dev/sda /media/sda" - missed the "-t " - i am a new linux user
[02:37] <deFrysk> HiddenWolf, lame
[02:38] <theine> HiddenWolf, I guess it should be possible with gstreamer0.8-mad but I only found something which uses gstreamer0.8-faad, which is not in the Ubuntu repos
[02:38] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, what IIIEars said
[02:38] <balor> Anyone know a usable video editing tool that runs on both Linux and Windows?
[02:38] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, or simply "sudo mount /dev/sda"
[02:38] <theine> HiddenWolf, sorry, I meant gstreamer0.8-lame, not gstreamer0.8-faad
[02:38] <koba> Videodub?
[02:38] <balor> koba, does that tun on Linux?
[02:38] <koba> wait
[02:39] <koba> I can't remember...: )
[02:39] <koba> lol
[02:39] <koba> Blender has some video editing capabilites
[02:39] <koba> but not much
[02:40] <Moe|Joe|c> ooo hang on
[02:40] <propagandhi> Ubuntu and mepis have a lot in common
[02:40] <Moe|Joe|c> its found the usb stick now in fdisk
[02:40] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, good
[02:40] <Moe|Joe|c> wht do i type to mount?
[02:40] <mitza> hey
[02:40] <mitza> how do i use blackbox window menager ?
[02:40] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, is it /dev/sda?
[02:40] <IIIEars> I saw a nice desktop wallpaper overlay that included system information typed in text and gradient bars over the background wallpaper. - Does anyone know what it is called?
[02:40] <propagandhi> mitza: why would u want to??
[02:40] <Moe|Joe|c> "mount /dev/sda"?
[02:40] <Moe|Joe|c> yeh
[02:40] <theine> mitza, apt-get it and select in the sessions menu at the login screen
[02:41] <mitza> to install some themes
[02:41] <goldfish> IIIEars: might be running root-tail ?
[02:41] <mitza> oh
[02:41] <mitza> ok
[02:41] <IIIEars> Ah - good idea
[02:41] <mitza> and where do i have to put the themes ?
[02:41] <theine> mitza, do you want to run blackbox under Gnome?
[02:41] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, do this:
[02:41] <mitza> yes
[02:41] <mitza> can i ?
[02:41] <mitza> or its for kde?
[02:41] <HiddenWolf> Can someone run gnome-audio-profiles-properties and give me the gstreamer-pipeline for CD Quality, Lossy please?
[02:41] <theine> mitza, no, you actually can
[02:41] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, "sudo mkdir /mnt/usbpen"
[02:41] <mitza> how ?
[02:42] <mitza> .xinitrc
[02:42] <Moe|Joe|c> done tht
[02:42] <mitza> sorry
[02:42] <bet0x> hi unbutizens :D
[02:42] <Moe|Joe|c> now mount it to tht
[02:42] <mitza> BScreen::BScreen: an error occured while querying the X server.
[02:42] <mitza>   another window manager is already running on display :0.0.
[02:42] <mitza> Blackbox::Blackbox: no managable screens found, aborting
[02:42] <Amaranth> HiddenWolf:  audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! vorbisenc name=enc quality=0.5
[02:42] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, and then "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/usbpen"
[02:42] <theine> mitza, after you've logged into Gnome, type "killall metacity && blackbox &" in a terminal
[02:42] <Amaranth> HiddenWolf: It has a leading space, might be important.
[02:42] <Moe|Joe|c> ah kool kool
[02:42] <HiddenWolf> Amaranth, thanks a lot
[02:43] <Moe|Joe|c> i dont hav to do tht everytime i plug it in do i?
[02:43] <HiddenWolf> Amaranth, overwritten mine, that was rather clumsy
[02:43] <Moe|Joe|c> or wen i put a different USB pen in?
[02:43] <theine> mitza, also, install the blackbox-themes package and look where those themes go with "dpkg -L blackbox-themes"
[02:43] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, in theory it should automatically mount it
[02:43] <Amaranth> HiddenWolf: Heh, did you overwrite it with an MP3 one?
[02:43] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, did it work, anyway?
[02:43] <mitza> yes
[02:43] <mitza> i`ve installed them
[02:43] <theine> mitza, did the killall ting work?
[02:43] <theine> *thing*
[02:44] <mitza> nope
[02:44] <Moe|Joe|c> woop it worked :D
[02:44] <mitza> got this
[02:44] <mitza>  another window manager is already running on display :0.0.
[02:44] <mitza> Blackbox::Blackbox: no managable screens found, aborting
[02:44] <PacoBCN> Moe|Joe|c, good
[02:44] <GuruFF> hello, i'm passing root=dev/hda6 to kernel at the boot time, can i also pass file system of the root ?
[02:44] <HiddenWolf> Amaranth, yes I did
[02:44] <theine> mitza: are you running gnome now?
[02:44] <mitza> yes
[02:44] <Adross> whats the name of that game for linux?
[02:44] <Adross> open source one
[02:44] <Adross> first person shooter
[02:44] <theine> mitza, and metacity is running?
[02:44] <Adross> windows version as well
[02:44] <mitza> i guess
[02:44] <eleusis> hey look
[02:44] <PacoBCN> Adross, Enemy Territory?
[02:45] <eleusis> pics from jdub's wedding
[02:45] <mitza> yes
[02:45] <mitza> it is
[02:45] <theine> mitza, did you type "killall metacity && blackbox" in one single line?
[02:45] <Adross> sounds like it
[02:45] <] BreliC[> ardoss, america's army?
[02:45] <PacoBCN> Adross, http://www.enemy-territory.com/
[02:45] <eleusis> well, after wedding
[02:45] <eleusis> thing
[02:45] <mitza> yes
[02:45] <mitza> but
[02:45] <PacoBCN> ] BreliC[, AArmy is not open source, I think
[02:45] <Moe|Joe|c> ah ffs
[02:45] <mitza> the error is:
[02:45] <mitza> BScreen::BScreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x22, depth 24
[02:45] <mitza> BScreen::LoadStyle(): couldn't load default font.
[02:45] <Moe|Joe|c> it wont paste ove my stuff now
[02:45] <Moe|Joe|c> lol
[02:46] <Adross> pacobcn:thats not it
[02:46] <] BreliC[> PacoBCN, and enemy territory is?  Hmm, didn't realize it was open source
[02:46] <Adross> its open source, multiplayer mapping
[02:46] <PacoBCN> ] BreliC[, not sure, actually
[02:46] <theine> mitza, sorry, i probably can't help you with this, all i know that it worked for me...
[02:46] <koba> can anyone tell me about the options for tar...
[02:46] <eleusis> ET is not open source
[02:46] <koba> what is this xvzf thing?
[02:47] <] BreliC[> didn't think so
[02:47] <mitza> where sould i install bb themes ?
[02:47] <eleusis> the code is available, but i don't think it has an OSI compatible license
[02:47] <cyphase> lol, some idiot covered the security cameras in a convnience store with tape before stealing money
[02:47] <cyphase> transperant tape
[02:47] <koba> LMAO
[02:47] <koba> lol
[02:47] <mitza> where sould i install bb themes ????
[02:48] <koba> can anyone kindly tell me how to untar the ubuntu source?
[02:48] <Adross> cube
[02:48] <darko__> How do I manually set IRQ's? (i want my nvidia card to not share IRQ with uhci_hcd specifically..)
[02:48] <Adross> thats the one
[02:48] <Adross> see you guys later
[02:48] <mjg59> darko__: You can't. It's fixed by your hardware.
[02:49] <mjg59> If there's a problem with them being on the same interrupt, it's either a driver bug or your hardware is broken
[02:49] <Moe|Joe|c> righty i can veiw all the files on my usbpen bt i cant copy and paste them over to my laptop :S
[02:50] <propagandhi83> anybody here used mepis??
[02:50] <cyphase> propaghandi81L no, no one
[02:50] <cyphase> ;)
[02:51] <propagandhi83> cyphase: u speak for all?
[02:52] <cyphase> propaghandi81: lol, i was j/k
[02:52] <propagandhi83> thats cool, but i really wanted to know
[02:52] <cyphase> well, i haven't
[02:52] <cyphase> i don't know about anyone else
[02:53] <propagandhi83> because i have ubuntu on the other partition i just want to know if anyone knows how to get kde 3.4 for debian unstable (mepis uses that as repository)
[02:53] <bet0x> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.10-5-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.1
[02:53] <bet0x> xD
[02:53] <bet0x> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GH Speed: 2793.140 MHz Cache: 512 KB ]  | RAM Usage: 156/516M [|||||||||||]  ( 30.2% ) | [ HD Model: SAMSUNG SV0411N Size: 73G with 69G Free ( 94.5% ) ]  | Number of process: 80
[02:54] <mishof> i get choppy/no sound when playing wmv (using xine/totem) - any ideas ??
[02:54] <balor> mishof: try an open codec
[02:55] <IIIEars> bet0x - what command will give me that info?
[02:55] <darko__> arrgh, i guess the problem is that 'nvidia' only shows up in /proc/interrupts after i load X and then it's no more "free"? IRQ's so it sets itself to an already occupied IRQ. I guess if i could "free" an IRQ(you know, so I would have an empy space in /proc/interrupts or nvidia would load up another IRQ at X startup... if that would be possible) then i would have no problem. But how would I do this? Probably with some kernel cmdline, X setti
[02:55] <darko__> nvidia setting or ... ? please help :/
[02:55] <mishof> I think i found a solution on ubuntu forums ;)
[02:55] <cyphase> does anyone else think it's strange that when you hold the cursor over an MP3 in Gnome, it plays it, but not with OGG, when OGG is the open format, and MP3 is closed?
[02:55] <bet0x> IIIEars, http://xlack.putopunto.com/index-en.php
[02:56] <bet0x> ( Network Stats ) Device: eth0 | Hostname: darkhole | Data: In: 450.6 MB ( 17.75K/sec ) Out: 20.4 MB ( 1.38K/sec ), Total: 471.0 MB [ In 95.7% | Out 4.3% ]  ( 19.13K/sec )
[02:56] <bet0x> its nice
[02:56] <bet0x> a toy for xchat
[02:56] <bet0x> :D
[02:56] <Xappe> darko__: doesn't bios take care of the irq handling? i've seen options like "assign irq to VGA" and stuff in BIOS
[02:56] <IIIEars> lol - erm - is that URL legit? (not tellin' how i know what a "puto" is lol
[02:57] <reagleBRKLN> i have this in my /etc/fstab '/dev/sda1       /f              vfat    rw,user,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0'
[02:57] <reagleBRKLN> root can mount it, but user can't
[02:57] <reagleBRKLN> mount: can't find /media/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:57] <reagleBRKLN> (f happens to be a symbolic link to /media/sda1)
[02:58] <darko__> Xappe: yeah that "assign irq to VGA" works, but uhci_hcd also seem to want that irq..
[02:58] <Xappe> ah, bad luck :/
[02:58] <Wings> has anyone got a howto for me to install nvidia drivers? the wiki on the site isn't helpful :(
[02:58] <reagleBRKLN> ah, change it to '/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     vfat '
[02:59] <greg_> (just asked this in #ubuntuforums :) )
[02:59] <greg_> hi.  i'm trying to install mplayer, but it is giving me errors about png support. when i try to use synaptic to get libpng12_dev it gives me an error
[02:59] <greg_> Depends: libpng12-0 (=<IP_ADDRESS>-7) but 1.2.8rel-1 is to be installed
[03:00] <darko__> also... isn't pcirouteirq something that might work? because i didn't 'get' that, what would i do to "route" everything to it's  own IRQ?
[03:02] <bet0x> !slack os
[03:02] <bet0x> ( Sistema Operativo ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.10-5-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | Cliente IRC: X-Chat v.2.4.1
[03:02] <bet0x> :D
[03:02] <bet0x> this is nice dude
[03:03] <alex_> hi
[03:03] <alex_> how could I use the package database of debian in ubuntu?
[03:04] <IIIEars> I found a nice system monitor app that is a translucent overlay of the desktop wallpaper. very configureable. -  "Torsmo"
[03:05] <goldfish> IIIEars: Cool, that looks sweet.
[03:05] <aLeSD> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhi
[03:06] <ratty> my fstab is read only
[03:06] <joaocarlos> Anyone had news about bug #7286?
[03:06] <ratty> how do i edit
[03:06] <Ocid> ratty: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:07] <ratty> ive used Gedit but whast sudo?
[03:07] <Ocid> ratty: gives you root access
[03:08] <sobersabre> hi. i have run make-kpkg on ubuntu . of kernel-image
[03:08] <sobersabre> then module assistant
[03:08] <IIIEars> "module assistant"?
[03:08] <ratty> thanks but i thought i had root privaliges
[03:08] <sobersabre> the module the assistant created wouldn't install, because it needs "linux-image"
[03:08] <Wings> when I exit xorg with alt+ctrl+f2 how can I get back in?
[03:08] <balor> IIIEars: Got a link to that?
[03:08] <IIIEars> what is the command for "module assitant"?
[03:08] <sobersabre> module-assistant
[03:09] <Ocid> ratty: in ubuntu root is normally disabled
[03:09] <IIIEars> "Torsmo"?
[03:09] <ratty> is there a program to mount my NTFS partitions or do i have to manually set them up?
[03:09] <sobersabre> ratty, it is mount...
[03:09] <ratty> thanks Ocid
[03:09] <Wings> sooomeeeoneee
[03:09] <IIIEars> sobresabre - Thanks
[03:09] <bet0x> ratty, u can do this if u want use a "direct root" : sudo passwd root
[03:09] <propagandhi83> Wings: does ctrl+a;t+f7 work
[03:10] <sobersabre> Wings, Alt+F7
[03:10] <Ocid> ratty: if you have root privileges then get out of irc, now
[03:10] <Wings> thanks
[03:10] <sobersabre> saved by the bell.
[03:10] <Wings> alt+f7 works, thanks :D
[03:10] <ratty> ocid???
[03:11] <ratty> why
[03:11] <Ocid> never irc as root
[03:11] <Ocid> that's very stupid thing to do
[03:12] <ratty> ok thanks il look into it im a newbie
[03:12] <goldfish> if there is a virus in irc, it will run with the priveleges u are running as
[03:12] <goldfish> if u run as root, so will it, u == fucked.
[03:12] <sobersabre> what is the "ubuntu" way of compiling a vanilla kernel ?
[03:13] <ratty> ok seeya
[03:13] <sobersabre> is there such ?
[03:13] <ratty> and thanks
[03:13] <joaocarlos> Getting problem related to bug 7286. My sound dont work with my Via 823 hardware. Any attencion?
[03:13] <no0tic> hi
[03:14] <goldfish> hello
[03:14] <no0tic> where can I change hdparm default options in order to keep them after reboot?
[03:14] <tremor_> anybody else having problems with sata_sil on ubuntu breezy ? after i upgraded, i can no longer mount sata devices
[03:14] <tritium> no0tic, /etc/hdparm.conf
[03:15] <Ocid> no0tic: /etc/hdparm.conf
[03:15] <no0tic> tritium, Ocid : thanks
[03:15] <bet0x> what have of new the breezy beta ?
[03:15] <propagandhi83> ubuntu breezy? how do u get that??
[03:15] <tremor_> i noticed some information about PCI interrupts no longer routed automatically (when a driver doesn't call pci_enable_device)
[03:15] <tremor_> replace "hoary" with "breezy" in your sources.list
[03:15] <GuruFF> how i can make xpdf display everythig nicer ?
[03:16] <tremor_> but i was wondering, if anybody else got this error (and if it is fixed when i upgrade my kernel to 2.6.11)
[03:17] <tritium> tremor_, 2.6.11 is not supported
[03:18] <bet0x> tremor_, and whats the new on "breezy"
[03:18] <tremor_> doesn't really matter if i need to compile the kernel manually, i just need working sata drivers :)
[03:18] <tritium> morning, mako
[03:18] <tremor_> bet0x: not much (yet)
[03:18] <tremor_> gcc4, openoffice2
[03:18] <tremor_> gnome 2.11 will be included soon (i guess)
[03:18] <EricNeon> good night~
[03:19] <bet0x> good morning for me :P
[03:19] <bet0x> 10 AM on Argentina, Rosario, Santa fe
[03:19] <EricNeon> I'm come off work;
[03:19] <snowblink> bet0x: buenas. :)
[03:19] <makyo> hello, anyone here could help me with setting up an mpu401 port for MIDI?
[03:19] <EricNeon> bye~
[03:20] <bet0x> snowblink, Holas :D
[03:20] <itay> I have problem with the sound
[03:20] <bet0x> snowblink, give malvinas back -.-
[03:20] <itay> now I understood what is it but I don't know how to solve it
[03:21] <makyo2> anyone here could help me with setting up an mpu401 port for MIDI?
[03:21] <hypno> itay what's the prob
[03:21] <itay> when I use the tab in the konsole, I hear the beep.
[03:21] <snowblink> bet0x, heh - no soy ingles
[03:21] <itay> after that, when I try "esd", I get: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:21] <bet0x> snowblink, que sos?
[03:21] <goldfish> itay: should be in settings
[03:22] <Moe|Joe|c> anyone knw of a good program i can use to show my system stats on my desktop?
[03:22] <goldfish> itay: turn off bell
[03:22] <goldfish> or something
[03:22] <snowblink> bet0x, malaysia, pero vivo aca
[03:22] <amias> itay: do 'sudo lsof /dev/dsp'  to find out what is using it
[03:22] <itay> but I want to use the bell
[03:22] <bet0x> snowblink, mira vos :D
[03:22] <bet0x> snowblink, y como sabes espaol?
[03:22] <sobersabre> guys. take 2. what is the expected way of kernel compilation with ubuntu ?
[03:22] <Mr_Gummikopf> not that it matters, but this Ubuntu Live-CD is REALLY nifty. =)
[03:22] <hypno> itay run kcontrol and go to sound&multimedia>sound system
[03:22] <itay> sudo lsof /dev/dsp: no output
[03:22] <joaocarlos> Ok... there's no bug
[03:23] <snowblink> bet0x, apprendaba en Buenos Aires...
[03:23] <joaocarlos> Found the solution...
[03:23] <Wings> right, I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers
[03:23] <Wings> and it say that I should run it as root
[03:23] <itay> here is the output:
[03:23] <joaocarlos> Now I got sound... huhuh
[03:23] <itay> COMMAND   PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE  NODE NAME
[03:23] <itay> artsd   15964 itay   10u   CHR   14,3      45654 /dev/dsp0
[03:23] <Wings> how do I do that?
[03:23] <soul34> yo
[03:23] <Wings> <- total noob
[03:23] <koba> could someone help me...I'm going crazy here
[03:23] <koba> *desperation*
[03:23] <snowblink> koba - what are you trying to do?
[03:23] <bet0x> snowblink, nice
[03:23] <koba> why is synaptic asking my for a cd??
[03:23] <koba> me*
[03:23] <amias> itay: you are running artsd which is analogous to esd , choose one or the other
[03:24] <snowblink> koba because you still have it as a repo
[03:24] <snowblink> snowblink untick the first repo
[03:24] <itay> how?
[03:24] <koba> sorry...I don't get you
[03:24] <soul34> how can I chane my resolution in the latest hoary live? in the menu i can change to only 1024*768, but my xorg.conf is full of 1280*800.. what can I do?
[03:24] <snowblink> koba sorry
[03:24] <goldfish> Wings: www.ubuntuguige.org
[03:24] <goldfish> *ubuntuguide.org
[03:24] <koba> shouldn't synaptic download stuff off the net?
[03:24] <koba> I get this...
[03:24] <koba> Please insert the disk labeled:
[03:24] <koba> Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)
[03:24] <koba> in drive /cdrom/
[03:24] <snowblink> koba hang on
[03:24] <Wings> thanks
[03:24] <itay> amias, how to do that?
[03:24] <koba> ok
[03:25] <goldfish> koba: comment out the lines mentioning cd in sources.list
[03:25] <snowblink> koba: settings->repositories
[03:25] <koba> thanks
[03:25] <koba> all I want is gcc!
[03:25] <snowblink> koba: The first line will show CD ticked
[03:25] <snowblink> koba: untick it
[03:25] <snowblink> koba, then reload
[03:26] <koba> THANK YOU
[03:26] <snowblink> koba: Oh, you may want to tick the online repos if they aren't already
[03:26] <Moe|Joe|c> anyone knw of a program that will display my system stats on my desktop?
[03:26] <tritium> sobersabre, most people don't need to, but making a kernel .deb with kernel-package is preferred
[03:26] <goldfish> Moe|Joe|c: torsmo
[03:27] <amias> itay: you could kill it for now by doing 'sudo kill 15964' , or 'sudo kill -9 15964' if that doesn't work
[03:27] <Moe|Joe|c> cheers
[03:27] <amias> itay: you could kill it for now by doing 'sudo kill 15964' , or 'sudo kill -9 15964' if that doesn't work
[03:27] <soul34> anyone to my resolutin problem?
[03:28] <Wings> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386
[03:28] <amias> itay: to uninstall it try apt-get remove artsd
[03:28] <Wings>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[03:28] <koba> another thing that is driving me crazy is my inability to get root access on the desktop
[03:28] <snowblink> koba, you should be sudoing stuff
[03:28] <itay> Couldn't find package artsd
[03:28] <tritium> koba, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:29] <koba> from the terminal?
[03:29] <deFrysk> koba, sudo -s
[03:29] <amias> itay
[03:29] <itay> yes
[03:29] <koba> what if I want root access in GNOME?
[03:29] <amias> itay: search for packages with apt-cache search package
[03:29] <koba> so I can use nautilus to rename a file for example?
[03:29] <snowblink> koba, what do you want to do as root in GNOME?
[03:30] <_maney> koba: sudo su -
[03:30] <itay> what pakcgaes?
[03:30] <tritium> koba, read the URL I sent you
[03:30] <koba> rename stuff...move stuff copy stuff
[03:30] <itay> packages*
[03:30] <koba> ok
[03:30] <CM> hi people
[03:30] <amias> itay: arts
[03:30] <itay> there is gstreamer0.8-artsd
[03:30] <netmatix> does anyone know how to edit the menu structure?
[03:30] <netmatix> like applications:///
[03:30] <netmatix> that doesnt work
[03:30] <itay> Package gstreamer0.8-artsd is not installed, so not removed
[03:31] <koba> thanks
[03:31] <hypno> netmatix http://ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor
[03:31] <amias> itay: did killing the process help ?
[03:31] <ren0> Hi I am having trouble getting a dvd to play with xine. It worked yesterday.
[03:31] <itay> just once
[03:31] <marcin_ant> koba: sometimes you _need_ to enable root account
[03:31] <itay> in the second time didn't help
[03:31] <amias> ren0: not all dvds are created equal
[03:31] <ren0> I get an error "there is no mrl"
[03:32] <_maney> Q: Xchat says emacs edit mode can be set through Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts, but that doesn't seem to exist any more (Hoary).  Any clues where I can enable this?
[03:32] <amias> itay: are you using kubuntu ?
[03:32] <ren0> It worked fine yesterday.
[03:32] <itay> yes
[03:32] <marcin_ant> _maney: you mean emacs mode keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[03:33] <netmatix> the menu editor doesnt work
[03:33] <amias> aaah , then you will probably be wanting to use artsd instead of esd
[03:33] <netmatix> it doesnt save
[03:33] <koba> thank you already gksudo works
[03:33] <snowblink> _maney, http://occy.net/node/56
[03:33] <koba> how do I enable a root account?
[03:33] <_maney> marcin_ant: guess so.  I've never needed to set it by hand before
[03:33] <chicken_man> koba, login manager
[03:33] <tritium> koba, I sent you a URL
[03:33] <netmatix> anyone using the menu editor?
[03:33] <itay> does it make any different?
[03:34] <Lito> Hi, how can i check the cpu temp??
[03:34] <amias> Lito: sensors
[03:34] <hypno> netmatix even when you press the save button?
[03:34] <goldfish> oh
[03:34] <netmatix> no
[03:34] <netmatix> it doesnt save
[03:34] <goldfish> Where do u get these sensors amias ?
[03:34] <netmatix> it reloads
[03:34] <netmatix> but my item is not showing
[03:35] <_maney> marcin_ant: hah, that was it!  thanks!
[03:35] <snowblink> Lito, somewhere in /proc/acpi depending...
[03:35] <netmatix> does it work for u?
[03:35] <amias> itay: kubuntu uses KDE which uses a different sound setup , i'm not familiar with it but i would suggest looking for a way to tell it not to use esd but to use artsd
[03:36] <hypno> yeah it works fine for me netmatix, a couple of people have the save problem though, it seems
[03:36] <netmatix> hmm
[03:36] <darko__> amias: artsd programname
[03:36] <netmatix> no one fixed  it yet?
[03:36] <itay> what is exacly esd?
[03:36] <darko__> and remove esd
[03:36] <koba> thanks people
[03:36] <hypno> netmatix try killall gnome-panel to refresh it
[03:36] <koba> sorry for being a pain
[03:36] <amias> itay: google for that
[03:37] <koba> I'm trying to install my sound drivers
[03:37] <koba> I'm getting this...
[03:37] <koba> checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[03:37] <koba> I have installed the ubuntu source
[03:37] <chicken_man> koba, hmmmmmmm
[03:37] <darko__> but amias: try the artsd kernel modules for less latency :)
[03:37] <snowblink> koba, create a symlink for /usr/src/linux
[03:37] <itay> What do you mean to tell it not to use esd but to use artsd? do you have any ideas how to do that?
[03:37] <darko__> that exist :)
[03:38] <darko__> itay: artsd programname
[03:38] <netmatix> hypno: doesnt work
[03:38] <netmatix> it refreshes but my item is not showing
[03:38] <koba> a symbolic link to where?
[03:38] <darko__> for example artsd xmms
[03:38] <tritium> koba, you have to unpack the sources first, before you can symlink to anything
[03:38] <koba> I have
[03:39] <koba> no include folder is present
[03:39] <itay> I will try and back if I have any problems.
[03:39] <itay> thanks
[03:39] <hypno> netmatix unlucky :|
[03:39] <koba> I find that in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386 there is no include folder
[03:39] <GuruFF> lool; how to make fonts look better in xpdf, they are blury and unreadable
[03:39] <koba> which my driver seems to need
[03:39] <Wings> what is the command to disable X?
[03:39] <netmatix> hypno  :-(
[03:40] <netmatix> i wonder why they kicked apllications://
[03:40] <netmatix> it was much better than the menu editor
[03:40] <tritium> Wings, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[03:41] <ren0> I have followed these "destructions" but still no xine http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23646&highlight=%2Fdev%2Fdvd
[03:41] <Wings> is that X thing useful for anything at all?
[03:42] <Hmmmm> i just installed hoary rc and my firefox keeps crashing
[03:42] <hypno> netmatix try running from terminal and watch the output, perhaps your permissions are wrong somewhere. menu-editor is still buggy though, tbh
[03:42] <koba> i give up
[03:42] <Hmmmm> anyone got a clue y?
[03:42] <tritium> Hmmmm, hoary has been released.  You should upgrade to the final version, rather than run the RC.
[03:42] <ups> Wings, if you need GUI, you need X. If you want to work only on the console, you don't need it
[03:42] <snowblink> koba have you installed the linux kernel headers?
[03:43] <Hmmmm> tritium, i did an dist-upgrade las night
[03:43] <hypno> Hmmmm try closing down firefox and moving your ~/.mozilla directory somewhere else
[03:43] <tritium> Hmmmm, then you're not running RC
[03:43] <fgx> sig, remember yesterday question about firefox crashing with flash?still not working...
[03:43] <Hmmmm> how do i check if upgrade is done ?
[03:43] <Wings> I just want to kill it off for the nvidia drivers
[03:43] <Wings> not permanently
[03:44] <Hmmmm> hypno, am doing it
[03:44] <netmatix> hypno: no errors when using form command line but same problem
[03:44] <netmatix> items not showing
[03:45] <GuruFF> cya
[03:45] <Hmmmm> hypno, i did it
[03:45] <Hmmmm> and again it crashes
[03:46] <hypno> netmatix try going to line 154 of /usr/lib/menu-editor/menu_handler.py and change "except:" to "except e:" and on the line below add "print e" before the "pass"
[03:46] <Ekaitza> Hello everybody....
[03:47] <makyo2> anyone here has experience using mpu401 for MIDI?
[03:47] <elcu> hello, i'm not getting sound with wmv files in totem-xine.  i've followed these directions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25668, but the decoder value seems to get reset back to 1 when i start totem.
[03:47] <Ekaitza> I guess you have listened to this question more than once
[03:47] <hypno> Hmmmm and you definitely have version 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 of the mozilla-firefox package ?
[03:47] <Ekaitza> I have got an Ibook G4 with an airport extreme
[03:47] <chicken_man> elcu, try somethink else i've had problems wuth totem playing mpg files
[03:47] <Ekaitza> Ubuntu works great in it
[03:48] <netmatix> hypno: ill try
[03:48] <chicken_man> with*
[03:48] <elcu> chicken_man: any recommendations?
[03:48] <Ekaitza> but although the airport extreme apears in the confuguration it doesn't work
[03:48] <petemc> Ekaitza: it wont work
[03:48] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, i'm sorry but it doesn't work with ubuntu
[03:49] <Ekaitza> it rings a bell
[03:49] <chicken_man> elcu, Noatun not sure if it woks in Gnome though
[03:49] <Ocid> Ekaitza: i don't think that any linux supports airport extreme
[03:49] <makyo2> anyone here has used mpu401 (joystick port) for MIDI?
[03:49] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, there are no drivers for it, its a broadcom device
[03:49] <eaon> airport extreme cards aren't supported by ... right
[03:49] <Hmmmm> hypno, yes i do
[03:49] <tritium> makyo2, please don't repeat
[03:49] <Ekaitza> I heart that, but I didn'twant to belive it ;)
[03:49] <fgx> having this from dmesg: serial8250: too much work for irq10
[03:49] <hypno> Hmmmm in that case i dont know, sorry.
[03:50] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, the annoying thing is that on a pc broadcom works via ndiswrapper
[03:50] <makyo2> tritium, I'm not repeating, I was adding more info
[03:50] <elcu> chicken_man: KDE apps can run in Gnome.  but i'd prefer something that isn't KDE based.
[03:50] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, but apparently on ppc this won't work
[03:50] <Ekaitza> I know, we have both
[03:50] <b0ol> hi
[03:50] <Ekaitza> pc and apple
[03:50] <goldfish> hello b0ol
[03:50] <b0ol> :)
[03:50] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, i have a G4 ibook
[03:50] <chicken_man> elcu, hmmmm well i'am out of ideas
[03:50] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, as well
[03:50] <Ekaitza> The problem is always the same
[03:50] <ren0> "There is no input plugin availible to handle "dvd" Maybe Mrl syntax is wrong
[03:50] <Ekaitza> I love apple, I like Ubuntu
[03:51] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, what i did though to get wireless is to get a cheap usb dongle
[03:51] <Ekaitza> but no way of having both
[03:51] <ren0> Anybody know what I am doing wrong?
[03:51] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, and the drivers work for that
[03:51] <chicken_man> Ekaitza , ewwwww apple
[03:51] <Ekaitza> it is a solution,,, but is a way of waisting the airport
[03:51] <eaon> peach, plum, pear?
[03:52] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, true, ironically the usb dongle doesn't work in osx
[03:52] <sp3tt> Hi all.
[03:52] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, while the airport does
[03:52] <ren0> I already have libdvdcss2
[03:52] <sp3tt> I am going to set up a dual boot system now.
[03:52] <Ekaitza> ha,ha,ha why??
[03:52] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, i dual boot
[03:52] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, ain't any drivers :)
[03:52] <sp3tt> Using Windows' native bootloader.
[03:52] <sp3tt> That means I don't install GRUB or LILO during the install.
[03:52] <petemc> sp3tt: why? i know it works, but grub is better
[03:53] <petemc> sp3tt: you do, just not in the mbr
[03:53] <sp3tt> Easier for a complete moron?
[03:53] <petemc> no
[03:53] <petemc> harder
[03:53] <sp3tt> (Ok, not moron, newb)
[03:53] <petemc> either way :)
[03:53] <whiteknight> Ekaitza, the usb dongles are seriously cheap 15 (gbp)
[03:53] <cens0red> hey what is gnome-smproxy?
[03:53] <sp3tt> Ok then, I install GRUB on sdb1
[03:54] <sp3tt> Or is that sdb2? Second partition anyway.
[03:54] <hypno> netmatix any luck?
[03:54] <ren0> In 2005 it shouldn't be this difficult to play a DVD
[03:54] <lenovo> hello, everyone
[03:54] <chicken_man> i'm not sure how to dual boot anyways my disk is to small 10.2GB
[03:54] <scizzo> ren0: ?
[03:54] <sp3tt> ren0: in 2005 it shouldn't be this easy to get a patent.
[03:54] <elcu> ren0: what program are you using?
[03:55] <goldfish> Anyone know where I can get sensors?
[03:55] <kuntu> i wanna patente my DNA !
[03:55] <ren0> I have followed this link. Tried xine, vlc totem, kaffiene etc.
[03:55] <ren0> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23646&highlight=%2Fdev%2Fdvd
[03:55] <sp3tt> If I install GRUB in the MBR, will it detect windows?
[03:56] <tritium> ren0, see 8: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <petemc> sp3tt: it should do
[03:56] <chicken_man> sp3tt , should do
[03:56] <rotherad> sp3tt yes it does
[03:56] <hypno> goldfish lm-sensors package
[03:56] <sp3tt> Err, that was messed up.
[03:56] <sp3tt> I meant on sdb2
[03:56] <ren0> thanks tritium
[03:56] <goldfish> hypno: thanks
[03:56] <sp3tt> Eh, what the heck, ubuntu has im and irc.
[03:56] <sp3tt> And web.
[03:57] <sp3tt> If it doesn't find windows at once, what happens?
[03:57] <chicken_man> sp3tt , what ?? :\
[03:57] <kahuna_> Hi
[03:57] <sp3tt> If GRUB doesn't find windows, I can still IM and IRC to get help...
[03:57] <davegahan> Hi i need urgent help
[03:57] <sp3tt> Booting other machine...
[03:58] <sp3tt> Install CD - check.
[03:58] <chicken_man> sp3tt , if dual boot was ok yea
[03:58] <sp3tt> FAT32 partition - Check.
[03:58] <davegahan> removed by mistake my ubuntu desktop while removing some fonts
[03:58] <petemc> sp3tt: a browser should be your first port of call for help
[03:58] <netmatix> hypno: now menu editor doesnt start and gives an error
[03:58] <sp3tt> Coffee - Nope.
[03:58] <tritium> davegahan, you mean the package?  That's not a big deal
[03:58] <davegahan> now ubuntu starts in textmode
[03:58] <davegahan> yes
[03:58] <davegahan> how do i reinstall it ?
[03:59] <davegahan> i need to give a presentation in 2 hours and need to reinstall my desktop asap
[03:59] <tritium> davegahan, sudp apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <tritium> davegahan, that was "sudo", sorry
[03:59] <davegahan> great - thank you so much
[03:59] <sp3tt> Ah, old machine...
[03:59] <chicken_man> davegahan, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ;)
[03:59] <ren0> I have already done all this. Why am I getting "no mrl"?
[03:59] <noobian> hi guys im trying to put a file called 'soundcard' into the dir /ect/modprobe.d/  but ever time i try it says i dont have permission , how do i go about getting it into there? i tried saving it there as well with nano under sudo but it wouldnt either ;\
[03:59] <tritium> davegahan, let me know how things go
[04:00] <chicken_man> noobian ,sudo mv soundcard /etc/modprobe.d/
[04:00] <scizzo> ren0: what exactly is the problem?
[04:00] <amias> ubunutu found it fine but when i try and reboot it gives me grub error 18 ( which is to do with the bios not being able to detect the drive properly) , any ideas ?
[04:00] <EddieX> Anyone who is good in Mips assembler  ?
[04:00] <snowblink> noobian, sudo cp soundcard /etc/modprobe.d
[04:01] <davegahan> thanks tritium
[04:01] <ren0> scizzo I get the error above when I open xine. "no mrl"
[04:01] <tritium> davegahan, is it fixed?
[04:01] <scizzo> ren0: try to use totem-xine
[04:01] <davegahan> i need to log out of windows
[04:01] <sp3tt> Ok, my machine is rebooting with the ubuntu cd inserted.
[04:01] <tritium> davegahan, ok
[04:01] <davegahan> and restart
[04:01] <kahuna_> How do I use marillat without screwing up my system?
[04:02] <davegahan> on a biz trip in russia now so i hope this usb internet connection will work
[04:02] <sp3tt> "For the default installation, press enter"
[04:02] <bob2> you don't use it
[04:02] <elcu> amias: you mean ubuntu won't boot?
[04:02] <scizzo> sp3tt: why are you telling us this?
[04:02] <noobian> cheers snowblink, worked a treat :D
[04:02] <amias> elcu: yes , it grub loads stage one then barfs loading stage 1.5
[04:03] <ren0> It worked yesterday so I can't figure out why its not today. Totem gives a blue screen
[04:03] <chicken_man> sp3tt , he don't know what he's doing lol
[04:03] <poningru> myrtii: how come you dont speak on #firefox anymore?
[04:03] <kahuna_> Does anyone know of a way to get transcode installed? I need it for video editing work and ubuntu doesn't have it.
[04:03] <scizzo> ren0: using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[04:03] <slept> does anyone know how the kernelmodule is called that I need for lvm
[04:03] <elcu> amias: i'm not sure if it's the same error, but i couldn't boot windows.  i had to set a HDD setting in BIOS from "Auto" to "LBA".
[04:04] <ren0> totem-xine I think
[04:04] <sp3tt> Wtf, it didn't find my keyboard.
[04:04] <Myrtti> poningru: I'm a total newbie when it comes to firefox
[04:04] <cyphase> how do you configure NFS remotely?
[04:04] <Myrtti> poningru: nothing much to say.
[04:04] <cyphase> through SSH..
[04:04] <amias> slept: have you tried 'sudo apt-cache search lvm' , this will list packages containing lvm
[04:04] <scizzo> ren0: dpkg -l | grep totem
[04:04] <chicken_man> sp3tt, WOW no keyboard
[04:04] <Myrtti> poningru: I've thought about leaving it
[04:04] <tritium> kahuna_, you'll have to use marillat in that case
[04:04] <sp3tt> Heh, it found the keyboard now.
[04:04] <chicken_man> sp3tt, lol
[04:04] <Alpha> sers@all
[04:04] <sp3tt> Identication of hardware...
[04:04] <amias> elcu: tried those , the bios never gets it right in either mode
[04:05] <ren0> both are listed
[04:05] <kahuna_> tritium, I've tried it and I still get broken deps. I don't want to hose my system so badly that it will break upgrades.
[04:05] <sp3tt> Hey, first linux distro.
[04:05] <ren0> xine and gstreamer
[04:05] <poningru> yeah thats why the channel is there so noobs like us
[04:05] <poningru> can talk to people like the devs
[04:05] <scizzo> ren0: which one has ii infront of it_
[04:05] <scizzo> sp3tt: please...we already know how the installation works... :P
[04:05] <sp3tt> Wtf, it can't find the harddrives... :/
[04:05] <zero[] > how can i check if 3d acceleration is enabled?
[04:05] <ren0> totem xine
[04:06] <chicken_man> sp3tt, ehhh yea he mite be right you know ?
[04:06] <sp3tt> And I have created a fat32 partition.
[04:06] <tritium> kahuna_, it works fine
[04:06] <elcu> zero[] : glxinfo.  Look for Direct Rendering = "Yes."
[04:06] <nemosys> how to setup linux webserver in ubuntu?
[04:06] <scizzo> ren0: check in totem the playlist and make sure it is empty
[04:06] <nemosys> please any internet guide?
[04:06] <elcu> amias: you may have got your partitions screwed up: http://www.mepis.org/node/2223
[04:06] <zero[] > ah, thanks
[04:07] <amias> zero: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , look for lines containing drm or dri
[04:07] <chicken_man> nemosys, webserver?
[04:07] <sp3tt> Linux hates me :/
[04:07] <nemosys> yea
[04:07] <chicken_man> sp3tt, lol :)
[04:07] <kahuna_> tritium, which depositories do oyu have and what version of transcode?
[04:07] <nemosys> so we can use cpanel and stuff
[04:07] <scizzo> sp3tt: how did you partition the harddrive before installing?
[04:07] <chicken_man> nemosys, get apache
[04:07] <nemosys> is it possible?
[04:07] <sp3tt> Partition magic.
[04:07] <nemosys> i installed apache2 already
[04:08] <nemosys> but dont know how to use it
[04:08] <vanQ> Can I ask one thing?
[04:08] <chicken_man> nemosys, and ?
[04:08] <chicken_man> nemosys, ahhhh
[04:08] <nemosys> any internet guide?
[04:08] <scizzo> sp3tt: do you have any free space without any filesystem on it?
[04:08] <nemosys> about seting up webserver?
[04:08] <ren0> scizzo, its empty. Play disc?
[04:08] <nemosys> yeah chicken_man that's theproblem
[04:08] <tritium> kahuna_, let me ssh to my home mythtv machine and check...
[04:08] <elcu> nemosys: Google.
[04:08] <kahuna_> You're using hoary?
[04:08] <nemosys> hehehe.. elcu thx
[04:08] <sp3tt> scizzo: No, is that the problem?
[04:08] <nemosys> warty
[04:08] <scizzo> ren0: try to open the DVD from totem
[04:08] <chicken_man> nemosys, i can help
[04:08] <nemosys> owww
[04:08] <sp3tt> Then I'll delete the 100 GB fat32 partition...
[04:09] <nemosys> i just installed php4
[04:09] <scizzo> sp3tt: ummm...could be
[04:09] <vanQ> Many say that Gnome is alot easier... but is it really?  When I saw it, it looked kinda... well... strange compared to KDE... KDE just dazzled me with its crazy amounts of programs with their even more odd codenames (4 mark names that leaves you just to test out yourself)
[04:09] <vanQ> ^^
[04:09] <sp3tt> As I said, GNU/Linux hates me xD
[04:09] <amias> elcu: is this like the errors people had when 2.6 first came out ?
[04:09] <elcu> ren0: try Ogle.
[04:09] <tritium> kahuna_, yes
[04:09] <chicken_man> nemosys, so it's fully installed ?
[04:09] <kahuna_> That's encouraging at least :)
[04:09] <sp3tt> 100 GB of unallocated space - enough?
[04:09] <elcu> amias: no idea. :)  i just googled for you.
[04:10] <vanQ> Hey how can you make the "leave message" different? :P
[04:10] <tritium> kahuna_, 2:0.6.14-0.2 from marillat unstable
[04:10] <nemosys> yepp
[04:10] <elcu> vanQ: in Xchat?
[04:10] <nemosys> chicken_man: yes
[04:10] <amias> elcu: thanks , i found that earlier and assumed that that had been fixed
[04:10] <ren0> elcu...might be better to try one thing at a time. I'll try Ogle if this doesn't work. Thanks
[04:10] <chicken_man> nemosys, join #apachehelp on this server
[04:10] <jordanau> i hear linux is designed to be left on and not rebooted, is that still the case? is it bad to reboot?
[04:10] <amias> elcu: i think its a BIOS issue , so i'm installing maxblast 4 to help the bios see the disk properly
[04:10] <Remenic> why is Qt called libqt3c102?! :S
[04:10] <raavi02> its not bad to reboot,
[04:10] <Remenic> how does ubuntu come up with these wierd names
[04:11] <jordanau> great, thanks, also is it bad on hardware to leave the computer running?
[04:11] <raavi02> it comes with very high stable tag.
[04:11] <ren0> I just got a blue window in Totem and now it has stopped.
[04:11] <elcu> amias: np.  sorry i couldn't help.
[04:11] <scizzo> ren0: did you try to just open a DVD in it?
[04:11] <ren0> Got it working
[04:12] <elcu> jordanau: linux is like any other OS.  whether you leave your 'puter on or off is up to you.
[04:12] <queuetue> I have a hosting priver I like quite a bit, but .. they only offer RHEL...  Anyone have a clever way to get a machine running debian/ubuntu?
[04:12] <ren0> No its just sound
[04:12] <sp3tt> ... What the... still no partitionable media!
[04:12] <ren0> scizzo thats Play Disc?
[04:12] <scizzo> ren0: then you have some nice errors somewhere
[04:12] <jordanau> elcu, i appreciate that
[04:12] <scizzo> GAH!
[04:12] <amias> ren0: totem never did anything for me , i just compiled MPlayer from source (not as hard as it sounds) now i can play any videos on my 233mhz laptop
[04:12] <hypno> jordanau i wouldn't worry about it. your computer will be obsolete before something wears out from continous running. Might want to keep an eye on your hard drive temperature though..
[04:12] <sp3tt> I have created 100 GB of unallocated space...
[04:13] <sp3tt> Why won't ubuntu find it?
[04:13] <raavi02> totem do a lot
[04:13] <jordanau> hypno, sounds good, my case is pretty well ventilated
[04:13] <hypno> that's good. the package hddtemp will let you see your hd temperatures
[04:14] <elcu> hypno: is HDD temp an issue with linux?
[04:14] <jinx``> why is it better to compile the mplayer yourself instead of using a binary?
[04:14] <aracataca> hi to everybodey, I need the command for updating openoffice to the 2.0-version. maybe you could name it briefly. many thanks.
[04:14] <elcu> hypno: also, know of any good CPU temp monitors?
[04:14] <SeamusLP> hypno:  With a five year warranty on mine I'm certainly not worrying :)
[04:14] <ren0> Sorry closed too may windows
[04:14] <kahuna_> tritium,  transcode: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050110-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[04:14] <scizzo> aracataca: 2.0 is still in development from what I know
[04:14] <jordanau> BTW, if anyone has an old functional (pentium 1 old) computer they would be interested in selling for like $20-$30 plus shipping let me know
[04:15] <qopi> how can i open pdfs in acroread instead of xpdf?
[04:15] <hypno> elcu not specifically, but a lot of people run hard drives at scorchingly hot temperatures then wonder why it breaks down after a couple of years
[04:15] <amias> jinx``: it will optimise it self much better and you get the extra  mga and trident drivers
[04:15] <kahuna_> Can I install the ubuntu avcodecs and force it?
[04:15] <aracataca> scizzo: thats corrects, but still worth trying, i was told
[04:15] <raavi02> install acroread
[04:15] <sp3tt> Ok, that's it.
[04:15] <ren0> I am in Totem>Play Disc and the screen turns Blue. Tells me no file.
[04:15] <jordanau> elcu, yeah lmsensor
[04:15] <sp3tt> If ubuntu can't find my harddrives, then I can't use it.
[04:15] <SeamusLP> kahuna_:  What codecs are you trying to install?
[04:15] <jinx``> do you have to set some extra options?
[04:15] <hypno> elcu lm-sensors plus gkrellm and others
[04:15] <jinx``> or just compile it?
[04:15] <raavi02> and give the pref to acroread rather then xpdf
[04:15] <fgx> what can i do to avoid this? serial8250: too much work for irq10
[04:16] <jordanau> elcu, lmsensor + gdesklet, and you ought to be good
[04:16] <ren0> now it is working
[04:16] <amias> jinx``: ./configure && make && make install
[04:16] <jMi> Hi - how do I find out which module eth0 and eth 1 are loading?
[04:16] <elcu> jordanau: yech, gdesklets.
[04:16] <jinx``> and after that?
[04:16] <ren0> I guess I can relax and watch the film.
[04:16] <jordanau> elcu, yeah i know after 2-3 days of trying to get them to work properly, i gave up
[04:16] <ren0> Thanks to those who helped out
[04:17] <jinx``> not every source comes with configure and make!?
[04:17] <petemc> jinx``: ifrename
[04:17] <jordanau> elcu, with lmsensor you can go to terminal, type in a command (i forgot it) and it will give all voltages, temps, fan speeds.
[04:17] <petemc> jMi: ^^
[04:17] <jinx``> :D
[04:17] <aracataca> scizzo: but openoffice being beta, that means that i can't get it through apt-get yet, through the universe?
[04:18] <queuetue> Spending time in here, I forget what a load of miscreants #debian is.  Then you go in there, and you can tell they just sit around hoping to find someone to pounce on and get all anal with...
[04:18] <elcu> jordanau: ah, goodo.  you based in aus (out of interest)?
[04:18] <hypno> queuetue indeed, the bitterness is strong with them
[04:18] <jinx``> bye
[04:18] <jinx``> bye
[04:18] <jMi> petemc: Sorry, I don't understand what ^^ means
[04:18] <kahuna_> SeamusLP, The codecs that marillat transcode depends on
[04:18] <petemc> queuetue: you cant tar everyone with the same brush
[04:18] <queuetue> jMi, Look up. :)
[04:18] <jordanau> elcu, no not in aus, the command is "sensors" would you like to see my output?
[04:18] <petemc> jMi: it means see my last comment
[04:19] <elcu> jordanau: sure.
[04:19] <jordanau> #flood
[04:19] <tritium> aracataca, you can get openoffice.org2 packages (betas) from universe
[04:19] <queuetue> petemc, Yes, you are correct - They are probably not all active miscreants, some just like to watch. :)
[04:19] <jMi> I've just joined the channel. Up doesn't extend for very long :-)
[04:19] <qopi> raavi02: i've already got acroread installed, but i only seem to be able to open pdfs in xpdf
[04:19] <davegahan> tritium, it worked ! thanks
[04:19] <SeamusLP> kahuna_:  Yeah it seems like I installed that at one point... gimme a sec and I'll help ya
[04:19] <petemc> jMi: only 2 lines up
[04:19] <tritium> davegahan, great :)
[04:19] <davegahan> back in ubuntu
[04:19] <GuruFF> lo :>
[04:20] <raavi02> you right-click on pdf file set the pref to acroread
[04:20] <davegahan> why is the ubuntu desktop removed when removing games or some unnecessary fonts ?
[04:20] <Kariloy> hi
[04:20] <davegahan> makes no sense really
[04:20] <aracataca> tritium: ok, and could you name the command for that, please?
[04:21] <tritium> davegahan, the ubuntu-desktop meta-package depends on several packages to provide a nice desktop environment
[04:21] <jMi> petemc: Oh the ifrename command? Gotcha, thanks!
[04:21] <rotherad> davegahan: the ubuntu desktop package is like a symlink for some of the packages, and it disapears when you remove those
[04:21] <petemc> jMi: np :)
[04:21] <raavi02> davegahan: decause of deps
[04:21] <space_oddity> hello
[04:21] <aracataca> tritium: have u tried it already, is that stable enough to work with it?
[04:21] <jordanau> elcu, the install requires a little work
[04:21] <elcu> jordanau: so in those screenshots, they are using gdesklets to have that stacked system monitor i always see.
[04:21] <tritium> aracataca, you can use synaptic or aptitude, or apt-get to install the packages.  It's openoffice.org2.  apt-cache search openoffice.org2 to see what packages there are
[04:22] <tritium> aracataca, I don't use it often, but I've installed it
[04:22] <elcu> jordanau: it does?  not a simple matter of just installing the package?
[04:22] <SeamusLP> kahuna_:  It seems like all I had to do was add the marillat repository and install transcode.  Is that different now?
[04:22] <jordanau> elcu, yeah all of those sensor gdesklets require lmsensors (at least the ones that measure temp etc.)
[04:22] <space_oddity> how is named the new ubuntu? the one after hoary?
[04:23] <davegahan> does anyone know an elegant way to edit the gnome application menu list ?
[04:23] <jordanau> elcu, i think you have to add some modules and stuff
[04:23] <aracataca> tritium: ok. i'm still very fresh to ubuntu, so it'll take a while to figure out how to use apt-get, but i will.. thanks
[04:23] <Bazzi_> space_oddity breezy
[04:23] <jordanau> space_oddity, breezy
[04:23] <tritium> kahuna_, there were no broken dependencies when I installed either, but that was months ago
[04:23] <davegahan> i installed menu editor but ii is full of bugs
[04:23] <elcu> jordanau: lm-sensor?
[04:23] <kahuna_> SeamusLP, Maybe. I have marillat but transcode wants a CVS version of avcodecs that can't be installed.
[04:23] <jordanau> elcu, yep
[04:23] <space_oddity> so I can change hoary to breezy in my source.list file?
[04:23] <raavi02> davegahan: Configuration Editor
[04:23] <tritium> aracataca, I recommend aptitude.  e.g., aptitude install openoffice.org2
[04:23] <jordanau> elcu, then the command to read everything is senso
[04:23] <SeamusLP> kahuna_:  Here's what I'd do.  Get all the codecs possible from the repository, then install transcode and the avcodecs from source
[04:23] <jordanau> sensor
[04:23] <jbailey> Anyone here got an amd64 running breezy?
[04:24] <goldfish> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[04:24] <goldfish> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[04:24] <goldfish> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[04:24] <darkaudit> kahuna_: have you tried the cerkinfo repo for transcode?
[04:24] <elcu> jordanau: ok
[04:24] <davegahan> hmmm i went through that but found it intimidating
[04:24] <goldfish> Should I have those in my sources.list?
[04:24] <davegahan> could not adress certain issues
[04:25] <chicken_man> if any one need help with apache join #apachehelp on this server
[04:25] <kahuna_> darkaudit, nope. I'll try that one though
[04:26] <qopi> raavi02: yeah, i'd tried doing that, but nothing happens when i select or browse to acroread. Any ideas?
[04:27] <it4ngo> Hello I'm looking for some documentation on how to fix USB sound in hoary, I'm searching the forum...
[04:27] <davegahan> is the fact that skype has several hours in delay of sending chat messages due to a firewall setting ?
[04:28] <raavi02> qopi: you must have Open With tab in Properties menu#
[04:28] <sp3tt> Why won't linux find the free, unallocated space?
[04:28] <raavi02> qopi: select Add to add the desired application e.g. acroread
[04:28] <raavi02> qopi: choose the acroread as a reader for pdf
[04:28] <amias> davegahan: very unlikely
[04:28] <sp3tt> It is there, it shows up in partition magic, but the installer simply can't find it...
[04:29] <raavi02> qopi: Then things will work fine for you.
[04:29] <SeamusLP> qopi:  Sure you want to use acroread as a reader?  xpdf or gdpf are quicker.
[04:29] <Wings> I'm trying to install Nvidia drivers, following the ubuntu guide, and at the first command I get this error:  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2. What can I do?
[04:29] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> kunbuntu
[04:29] <elcu> SeamusLP: any difference b/n the gnome and normal versions?
[04:30] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> oops
[04:30] <SeamusLP> elcu:  gpdf is based on xpdf, basically just a shinier frontend from what I can tell
[04:30] <tritium> with poor font support
[04:30] <SeamusLP> elcu:  I suspect ubuntu decided to use xpdf because some people find gpdf buggy
[04:31] <raavi02> elcu: thats right, gpdf uses xpdf to render.
[04:31] <raavi02> elcu: xpdf runs much faster then gpdf
[04:31] <elcu> righto.  i personally use gnome-gv
[04:31] <SeamusLP> elcu, how is that?
[04:31] <riot777> hi
[04:31] <Wings> anyone?
[04:31] <elcu> it's ok.  no search functionality though.
[04:31] <SeamusLP> Wings:  Can you please find a place to post your xorg.conf?
[04:32] <elcu> so i use xpdf as backup.
[04:32] <Wings> I didn't edit that SaemusLP
[04:32] <Wings> just default
[04:32] <tritium> Wings, what package failed to install?
[04:32] <riot777> how I safely remove gnome is 'apt-get remove gnome' is enuff ?
[04:32] <davegahan> where do i need to go in configuration editor to configure the gnome application menu ? I installed some aps that do not show
[04:32] <riot777> ;>
[04:32] <Wings> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[04:32] <elcu> davegahan: try logging out and back in again.
[04:32] <amias> Wings: sounds like nvidia goofed , you should complain to them about binaries making life really difficult
[04:32] <tritium> regarding gpdf:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/gpdf
[04:33] <davegahan> I did
[04:33] <Wings> somehow I doubt that
[04:33] <davegahan> i always have the same problem with Skype regardless the connection or ISP
[04:33] <SeamusLP> Wings:  You followed the guide but you didn't edit your xorg.conf?
[04:33] <tritium> Wings, now do: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:33] <elcu> davegahan: maybe some apps don't install a menu entry (zsnes springs to mind).  just add one manually.
[04:33] <tritium> SeamusLP, you don't need to edit it
[04:34] <davegahan> how does one do that ?
[04:34] <davegahan> sorry but still quite a newbie
[04:34] <Wings> I did that tritium, it say 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed and 0 removed
[04:34] <Wings> and 0 not upgraded
[04:34] <SeamusLP> tritium:  Isn't wings trying to upgrade from the open source drivers to the binary ones?
[04:34] <tritium> Wings, what does apt-cache policy nvidia-glx tell you?
[04:35] <tritium> SeamusLP, yes, so he can use nvidia-glx-config enable, rather than editing his xorg.conf
[04:35] <Wings> installed: none
[04:35] <elcu> davegahan: open the menu you want to add an entry to, go to one of the existing icons, right click, select entire menu->add new item
[04:35] <recover> Is xchat compiled with tcl or python support when I apt-get it?
[04:35] <SeamusLP> tritium:   Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
[04:35] <Wings> and it gives a version table
[04:35] <ups> recover, yes, perl, tcl and python i believe
[04:35] <recover> ok, thx ups
[04:36] <tritium> SeamusLP, hand-editing will change the md5sum, as well (see the head of /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[04:36] <dcraven> I just realized that Ubuntu's versioning system doesn't make sense to me.
[04:36] <davegahan> only have two "add this...." choices
[04:36] <Wings> anyway, I got to a point were I could install the drivers, but I had to do some sketchy thing with recompiling stuff
[04:36] <Wings> it's all very dodgy
[04:36] <elcu> recover:  From my Xchat FreeNode log: Python interface loaded
[04:36] <elcu>  Perl interface loaded
[04:36] <elcu>  Tcl plugin for XChat - Version 1.0.49
[04:36] <tritium> Wings, you don't need to do any compiling for nvidia drivers
[04:37] <chicken_man> need help with apache join #apachehelp on this server
[04:37] <Wings> I downloaded the drivers from nvidia.com
[04:37] <elcu> davegahan: what are they?
[04:37] <tritium> Wings, that's not good.  You should use the ubuntu packages
[04:37] <Wings> and killed X, ran them, and they talked about compiling something
[04:37] <Wings> can you link me?
[04:38] <elcu> Wings: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:38] <davegahan> add this as drawer to panel, add this as menu to panel
[04:39] <Wings> elcu, that gives me the same error as the one I got when following ubuntuguide.org 's guide
[04:39] <dockane> hi all.. is there a way to cahnge this brown color through complete gnome with 1 (!) theme or do i have to pick each element (splash, login,desktop, windows.etc) ?
[04:39] <tritium> Wings, that's the method to follow
[04:39] <GNAM> nvidia as described in ubuntuguide doesn't work for me
[04:40] <Wings> that's odd
[04:40] <SeamusLP> Wings but you didn't use the package management?
[04:40] <Wings> no :/
[04:40] <Wings> what's that?
[04:40] <goldfish> apt-get
[04:40] <goldfish> ?
[04:40] <elcu> davegahan: are you right-clicking on an existing icon?
[04:40] <Wings> that's in the lines from the official site
[04:41] <Wings> I guess I used that then
[04:41] <SeamusLP> Wings you should use apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:41] <kynes> hi
[04:41] <kynes> I installed ubuntu today
[04:41] <GNAM> doesn't work seamuslp
[04:41] <kynes> and there is Win XP
[04:41] <GNAM> screen CRASH
[04:41] <kynes> on the same machine
[04:41] <tritium> Wings, you should uninstall the official nvidia stuff before installing the ubuntu packages
[04:41] <kynes> how can I browse windows files from ubuntu?
[04:41] <kynes> where are they located?
[04:42] <Wings> aha
[04:42] <GNAM> Wings: what's your nvidia? I've a Geforce5700GO
[04:42] <raavi02> kynes: you must mount those partitions
[04:42] <elcu> kynes: ubuntuguide.org
[04:42] <Wings> GNAM, 4200ti
[04:42] <gingermark> Hiya. Trying to sort out a Realplayer plugin for Mozilla-compatible browsers, just cos sites like the BBC insist on using them. I'm not worried about the player, just the plugins. Installing Real Alternative took care of this in Windows. Anyone know of a similar thing in Ubuntu?
[04:42] <Wings> tritium, where do I do that?
[04:42] <tritium> GNAM, did you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out the error?
[04:43] <tritium> Wings, do what?
[04:43] <GNAM> no :P
[04:43] <Wings> uninstall the nvidia drivers
[04:43] <elcu> gingermark: ubuntuguide.org
[04:43] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> ive used vlc has good browser plugins
[04:43] <gingermark> elcu, ok will have a ganders there
[04:43] <gingermark> cheers
[04:43] <Wings> the ones that came with the iso
[04:43] <tritium> Wings, I never installed them.  You tell me.  I only use the ubuntu packages/
[04:44] <Wings> I got the iso the other day, installed it, and now I'm looking to get the nvidia drivers
[04:44] <Wings> I haven't done anything on it yet
[04:44] <GNAM> i wait some other days to retry nvidia
[04:44] <tritium> Wings, you said you installed them
[04:44] <Wings> all I know is that this line "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" gives me an error
[04:44] <Wings> I said I tried to install them
[04:44] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> wonder why you cant mix ubuntu pkg's wuth reg deb 's
[04:44] <GNAM> i'm sure that ubuntuguide will give a correction
[04:44] <tritium> GNAM, did you check the log file for errors?
[04:44] <tritium> GNAM, it is correct
[04:44] <sp3tt> If the bootloader is not installed in the mbr, will it be used by the BIOS on boot?
[04:44] <Wings> the .run from nvidia.com
[04:44] <GNAM> no, it's not correct
[04:44] <tritium> GNAM, yes, it is.
[04:44] <GNAM> i've deleted that install
[04:44] <sp3tt> Or will something have to activate it?
[04:45] <GNAM> so i'ven't more the file
[04:45] <GNAM> but one day i'll retry
[04:45] <GNAM> so i'm not only one with problems with nvidia
[04:45] <tritium> GNAM, the method is correct.  If you have specific issues with your card, we'll have to address them by checking the log file for the exact cause of the error.
[04:46] <GNAM> but log file tell me something?
[04:46] <tritium> GNAM, it'll help us troubleshoot, yes
[04:46] <GNAM> system is not crashed, sounds tell me that i can login
[04:46] <GNAM> also if screen is corrupted
[04:46] <amias> sp3tt: if you have another bootloader like system commander it will go in the mbr and you put your bootsector in your root partition , otherwise if you have no other os then put it in the mbr
[04:46] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> more /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:47] <Wings> tritium, do you know a place where I can upload the text in the terminal that I get when I use the command from the  site?
[04:47] <amias> Wings: mailinator.com
[04:47] <larsrohdin> does anyone know a good program for cd-burning?
[04:47] <kynes> elcu && raavi02 : thanks
[04:47] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> gome or kde ?
[04:47] <tritium> Wings, is it short?  Are you using xchat?
[04:47] <Ocid> larsrohdin: gnomebaker
[04:48] <elcu> kynes: i forgot.  for what?
[04:48] <elcu> :)
[04:48] <kynes> :)
[04:48] <larsrohdin> Ocid, can i use it without gnome? im on fluxbox...
[04:48] <Wings> I am using xchat
[04:48] <kynes> fluxbox is darn good
[04:48] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> kde k3b
[04:48] <Ocid> larsrohdin: sure
[04:48] <tritium> Wings, you can use "/exec -o <command>" if it won't paste too many lines
[04:48] <kynes> but for more ram, the choice is Gnome.. :)
[04:48] <Wings> it's 25 lines
[04:48] <tritium> too many
[04:48] <Wings> I'll put it on pastebin
[04:49] <larsrohdin> Ocid, ok ill give it a try... thanks
[04:49] <elcu> JuNkPhreak|UnIx: and for gnome?
[04:49] <danwolf> anyone have problems in ubuntu with gdn locking up on them?
[04:49] <Wings> tritium, here it is http://www.pastebin.com/273228
[04:49] <tritium> Wings, please uninstall the nvidia stuff you installed from the .run file before we do any troubleshooting
[04:49] <danwolf> It locks on me and I have to ssh in with my laptop to get it to restart
[04:50] <Wings> I didn't install anything from the .run
[04:50] <danwolf> I have an nvidia card
[04:50] <danwolf> anyone help me out?
[04:50] <tritium> Wings, looks like you've installed ati drivers too (fglrx).  Why?
[04:50] <Wings> oh
[04:50] <Wings> aha
[04:50] <GNAM> auauau
[04:50] <Wings> that must be it
[04:50] <Wings> lol
[04:50] <danwolf> tritium: are the nvidia drivers bad?
[04:50] <tritium> danwolf, no, why?
[04:50] <Wings> tritium, how can I get rid of them?
[04:51] <Ocid> danwolf: nvidia works nice
[04:51] <tritium> Wings, apt-get remove --purge them is what I'd do
[04:51] <danwolf> I have a problem where my gdm locks up after a while in gnome
[04:51] <kynes> is there any program for ICQ that looks elegant?
[04:51] <tritium> danwolf, what does your log file indicate?
[04:51] <danwolf> Ocid: I have a problem where my gdm locks up after a while in gnome
[04:51] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> elcu : gnomebaker
[04:51] <Ocid> danwolf: i had similar probs in X
[04:51] <EddieX> kyncani, gaim ?
[04:51] <kynes> I mean, licq is good, but looks bad on screen
[04:51] <elcu> JuNkPhreak|UnIx: thanks
[04:51] <danwolf> tritium: which log file?
[04:51] <amias> yey me ! fixed my grub error 18 problem by installing MaxBlast4 first (told it i was using Windows98)
[04:51] <danwolf> Ocid: you fix it?
[04:51] <Wings> tritium, it's not working, but I'll just reinstall it
[04:51] <tritium> danwolf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:51] <Wings> thanks for all the help
[04:51] <kynes> eddieX: gaim shows me offline sometimes
[04:51] <elcu> amias: well done
[04:51] <Wings> I'll see you another time
[04:51] <tritium> Wings, which isn't working?
[04:52] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> kynes : kde or gnome ?
[04:52] <danwolf> tritium: hold
[04:52] <Wings> that thing
[04:52] <Ocid> danwolf: then i removed the renderaccel true from xorg.conf
[04:52] <Ocid> that fixed it
[04:52] <Wings> but I only installed it today
[04:52] <kynes> eddieX: I dunno why
[04:52] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> iuse kopete
[04:52] <EddieX> kyncani, hmm gossip, kopete ?
[04:52] <Wings> so I'm cool with a fresh install
[04:52] <tritium> Wings, you have to install it after you remove fglrx
[04:52] <danwolf> Ocid: maybe I will try that
[04:52] <kynes> junkPhreak: gnome
[04:52] <Wings> :p
[04:52] <Wings> bbl
[04:52] <Wings> .quit
[04:52] <Wings> ..
[04:52] <kynes> kopete site is under construction I guess?
[04:52] <kynes> couldn't get it
[04:52] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> gaim
[04:52] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> multi chat client
[04:52] <kynes> but gaim looks good, I agree
[04:53] <danwolf> tritium: (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[04:53] <danwolf> think thats it?
[04:53] <tritium> kyncani, kopete is in the repositories.  You would grab it from there, not the site
[04:53] <EddieX> I use gaim and i think it is very good
[04:53] <tritium> danwolf, not likely.  Any (EE) ?
[04:53] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> kynes: http://kopete.kde.org/index.php
[04:53] <sp3tt> "Ok" Ubuntu can't load the ide-detect module....
[04:53] <danwolf> tritium: Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
[04:53] <danwolf> that?
[04:54] <danwolf> tritium: hold
[04:54] <goldfish> where does a usb hard-drive get mounted to?
[04:54] <tritium> goldfish, should be under /media
[04:54] <petemc> goldfish: /media/part000 or some such
[04:54] <danwolf> tritium: only II and ww
[04:55] <tritium> danwolf, and you can't use X at all?
[04:55] <danwolf> tritium: think I should try what Ocid was saying
[04:55] <danwolf> tritium: nah I am in gnome right now
[04:55] <krusbjorn> I'm building myself a new computer. Leaning towards an Asus A8N-E MB and an AMD64 Winchester CPU. However, i'm totally lost in the RAM djungle. Right now im pondering Kingston ValueRAM PC3200...but i have no idea at all if it's good compared to others...Anyone have any tips?
[04:55] <tritium> danwolf, I didn't see what he suggested
[04:55] <danwolf> tritium: after a while it just locks and I have to ssh in to restart gdm
[04:55] <danwolf> tritium: 09:53 < Ocid> danwolf: then i removed the renderaccel true from xorg.conf
[04:55] <tritium> danwolf, do you have that enabled?
[04:56] <danwolf> renderaccel?
[04:56] <danwolf> tritium: renderaccel?
[04:56] <danwolf> dunn
[04:56] <flipy> how can I set up ndiswrapper to load at boot time?
[04:56] <danwolf> lemme look
[04:56] <tritium> danwolf, if you do, it would be because you inserted it into your xorg.conf yourself
[04:57] <Ocid> tritium: yeah true
[04:57] <Ocid> tritium: i had lockups after adding that
[04:57] <tritium> Ocid, so you've had bad luck using it?
[04:57] <danwolf> tritium:         Device          "NVIDIA Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x] "
[04:57] <amias> right i'm all done in here , have fun everyone
[04:57] <danwolf> tritium: no I don't see it
[04:58] <tritium> danwolf, you would remember if you had added it in