[18:38] <NutsPT> 		Virtual	1280	1024
[18:38] <CodenameKT> no
[18:38] <NutsPT> 		Modes		"1280x1024@50"
[18:38] <Pir8> ckw GeForce 8600 GTS
[18:38] <StoneNote> cd firefox
[18:38] <NutsPT> 	EndSubSection
[18:38] <ebirtaid> !pastebin | Nutspt
[18:38] <NutsPT> EndSection
[18:38] <ubot3> Nutspt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:38] <CodenameKT> ahhh
[18:38] <lawke_> whats the package name of compiz settings manager?
[18:38] <Jabberwock> briantumor: Check out QCad
[18:39] <briantumor> where is that?
[18:39] <Konam> pga not really, the older packages are purged
[18:39] <ebirtaid> apt-cache search compiz settings
[18:39] <NutsPT> CodenameKT:
[18:39] <Konam> pga I think the best you can do is order the 7.10 CDs and make a fresh install
[18:39] <boojah> hello, i know this is a strange question, but what is the command to open terminal, as if you wanted to open it usinng alt+f2
[18:39] <pga> Konam I've ordered 6.06 LTS last year, and it showed up in my doorstep last month.
[18:40] <ckw> Pir8:thats a bit newer that what i am working with...a dual head 64mb pci GeForce 4 440mx....you are using the newer proprietary drivers then?
[18:40] <crackhead> pga, hahahahah snail mail
[18:40] <NutsPT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42486/
[18:40] <aninhumer> Does anyone know how to get video filtering with "no xv" output mode?
[18:40] <ebirtaid> boojah: gnome-terminal?
[18:40] <Pir8> ckw correct
[18:40] <garu> crackhead this distro is crazy.It should be impossible to connect wirelessly. I switched off the button that enables wireless on the lappy, and yet...it connects wirelessly in ubuntu.The problem is that, even the wireless in ubuntu has problems, like, constantly disconnecting!lol
[18:40] <crackhead> pga, did it have a little asian on a bike with it?
[18:40] <CodenameKT> NutsPT: are you not getting my private messages NutsPT
[18:40] <Jabberwock> Wow. I'd like to remove Firefox, but Ubuntu wants to remove gnome along with it..
[18:40] <lawke_> whats the package name of compiz settings manager?
[18:40] <Jabberwock> That's odd.
[18:40] <NutsPT> no
[18:40] <boojah>  ebirtaid tnx
[18:40] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: no
[18:40] <crackhead> garu, i dont have problems, i have a toshiba a105-s4054
[18:40] <pga> crackhead nop.. I know why, it took that long. Because that idiot post office inspector was holding it back, thinking it was pr0n.
[18:40] <briantumor> that's package management for you ;)
[18:40] <Jabberwock> compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:40] <crackhead> garu, wireless is flawless
[18:40] <ckw> Pir8:Twinview or separate x screens?
[18:41] <Jabberwock> apt-cache search compiz | grep settings
[18:41] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: just an away reply
[18:41] <crackhead> garu, worked right out of the box
[18:41] <Pir8> ckw twinview
[18:41] <Jabberwock> briantumor: That's not normal behavior
[18:41] <Konam> pga OMG!
[18:41] <Konam> pga that's weird
[18:41] <ebirtaid> jabberwock they made it a dependency in ubuntu
[18:41] <ebirtaid> dunno why it is stupid
[18:41] <ebirtaid> reminds me of windows and ie ;p
[18:41] <Jabberwock> :/
[18:42] <arnath> how do i update dapper to edgy?
[18:42] <crackhead> pga, i would think that if it took that long to get it, you should get something for the pain and suffering
[18:42] <Jabberwock> I want to remove it and use a non ubuntu firefox
[18:42] <Jabberwock> I'm on an amd64 machine and it's too much of a pain to set up plugins
[18:42] <garu> crackhead I also have a toshiba equium 100. wireless worked out of the box, but I also got other problems on it.lol.and ubuntu 7.04 worked perfectly! :o
[18:42] <ebirtaid> you could compile another firefox into the bin directory
[18:42] <ebirtaid> I guess
[18:42] <pga> arnath Google for "dist-upgrade" .. or Konam gave me this site >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:42] <CodenameKT> NutsPT:
[18:42] <Jabberwock> yeah
[18:42] <ckw> Pir8:Very nice...eh?...I have mythtv running in a window on the second screen....ever since i got the right legacy video driver in there this machine screams...!
[18:42] <crackhead> let me see what ver i am running
[18:42] <Jabberwock> sloppy
[18:42] <CodenameKT> NutsPT: take out the virtual line
[18:42] <arnath> pga: thanks
[18:42] <ebirtaid> yea
[18:42] <pga> Konam I'll just stick with 6.06 for now, cause it's LTS after all :)
[18:43] <CodenameKT> NutsPT: and also take out the @50 on the mode
[18:43] <Pir8> ckw sweeet...so I take it you have a tv tuner card as well ?
[18:43] <ebirtaid> only til next year
[18:43] <zavestang07> I have a question for anyone who can help, Let's say I had a third party RAID driver, and i wanted to install Gutsy (which does not see the raid by default), how would I go ahead and load that driver prior to installatiion?
[18:43] <Konam> pga that's the best thing you could do, do you have a good internet connection?
[18:43] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: check this
[18:43] <Przemcio78> hi
[18:43] <aninhumer> arnath, you're a bit late, we're already up to gutsy :P
[18:44] <ckw> Pir8:yes...a Hauppauge PVR-350...works perfectly....hey let me ask you....what does glxgears report for your card?
[18:44] <dope> i have a pen drive that will boot linux but on PCs that don't support booting from usb what can i do?  the pc already has grub on it
[18:44] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42487/
[18:44] <pga> Konam 1Mbps here.
[18:44] <Pir8> ckw come again?
[18:44] <NutsPT> brb
[18:44] <Konam> pga ¬¬
[18:44] <arnath> aninhumer: gutsy isnt playing nice with xen :( so i reverted to a dapper disc i've got lying around, but that has no xen at all
[18:44] <ebirtaid> dope: nothing?
[18:44] <ebirtaid> if it cant boot from usb it cant
[18:44] <Jabberwock> ebirtaid: `firefox` has a really long call stack of nested scripts
[18:44] <dope> can i not load it from grub
[18:44] <Przemcio78> help, i can't make add buildpkg to FEATURES, every time i emerge something i get such error "Failed to create tarball"
[18:44] <Konam> pga you could download the latest version of ubuntu, it will be finished in 2 hours or less
[18:44] <slavik> dope, you can try by using the grub shell
[18:44] <ebirtaid> jabberwock: oh yea?
[18:45] <Konam> pga and make a fresh install
[18:45] <ckw> Pir8:open a terminal and say 'glxgears' (no quotes) and it will report the cards frame rate
[18:45] <pga> Konam Nah, the DVD version would take 2+ hours.
[18:45] <Pir8> aaah ok
[18:45] <crackhead> ultimate edition
[18:45] <aninhumer> arnath, ah, I thought there must be some reason: I always find that the update disk, or even a fresh install can be easiest
[18:45] <arnath> hmm, the site is telling me to use gksu, but it's not installed (and i can't seem to apt-get it)
[18:45] <Pir8> ckw 49835 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9966.998 FPS
[18:45] <jose_miguel> hello, could someone help me with a microphone problem? i pasted the output of amixer here: http://pastebin.com/m64e4b799
[18:45] <crackhead> pga, get the gamers edition, or the ultimate edition gnarly gnome, its awesome
[18:45] <Konam> pga then why you don't download the .iso that fits you best?
[18:45] <ebirtaid> oh well off to work
[18:46] <_sinister> Could anyone tell me where I would find BitchX after I downloaded it with Synaptic Package Manager?
[18:46] <rhalff> arnath, xen not working in gutsy and then revert to dapper seems like a weird solution to me.
[18:46] <daxroc> Where would I find qt-dbus ?
[18:47] <arnath> rhalff: xen is unstable with gutsy, but apparantly works great with feisty & edgy, but i happened to have a dapper cd lying around and thought i'd give that a try first
[18:47] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: it seems ok... wrong freq i guess..
[18:47] <crackhead> pga, check this out... http://ubuntusoftware.info/Ubuntu_Ultimate_1.5/
[18:47] <matelot> hi
[18:47] <matelot> Hi I only want the LAST column of 'ps -e'
[18:47] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: you checked my link?
[18:47] <ckw> Pir8:thanks...i am trying to get a sense of what the different cards are capable of...I have seen some folks in here talking about frame rates around 15000-20000
[18:47] <matelot> how to do that
[18:47] <Toufas> every video file i try open makes the player close straight away, any solutions?
[18:47] <Pir8> ckw wow
[18:47] <Pir8> that's insane
[18:47] <loony> Noob question: I'm trying to login as admin with "su" in a terminal window... I've only set one password since I installed.. but I get a Auth failure
[18:47] <Pir8> I'm also loving avant window manager
[18:48] <Pir8> its pretty neat
[18:48] <crackhead> loony, use sudo
[18:48] <Slart> _sinister: I would guess you run it in a terminal. (isn't bitchx terminal based?)
[18:48] <crackhead> loony, not su
[18:48] <arnath> loony: alternatively, set a su password by running "sudo passwd"
[18:48] <_sinister> Yeah
[18:48] <rhalff> arnath: ah ok, I must say I had troubles also with xen and gutsy
[18:48] <matelot> Hi I only want to output the LAST column of 'ps -e' , how to do ?
[18:48] <loony> kk
[18:48] <ckw> Pir8:I am really at the bottom end with this card..only 675 fps
[18:48] <arnath> rhalff: ye, ive just spent an entire afternoon trying to get it to work, but since there is little community support behind it...
[18:49] <pga> Konam I'll just wait for 8.04 ..
[18:49] <aninhumer> loony, the password used for sudo is not actually the admin password, you can set that with sudo passwd, as someone said
[18:49] <pga> crackhead thanks!
[18:49] <arnath> rhalff: you know of any other virtualisation software that works well with gutsy?
[18:49] <Pir8> ckw are you able to run compiz ?
[18:49] <crackhead> pga, no prob, thats a sweet package, everything just works
[18:49] <crackhead> pga, just seamless
[18:49] <jose_miguel> hello, could someone help me with a microphone problem? i pasted the output of amixer here: http://pastebin.com/m64e4b799
[18:49] <loony> thx alot :)
[18:49] <rhalff> arnath: vmware and there is that other thing
[18:49] <Konam> pga ok, whatever
[18:49] <arnath> rhalff: it has to be opensource, so vmware is out :p
[18:49] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: are you there?
[18:49] <BioGenx2b> just tried 7.10 PPC desktop in my g3, and it froze every time :(
[18:49] <daxroc> Any one know where I would find libqtdbus
[18:49] <pga> Konam yup, whatever.
[18:50] <BioGenx2b> time to try it from 6.06 instead of boot up
[18:50] <ckw> Pir8:no way...not with this card....hell the desktop effects wont even enable for Normal
[18:50] <pga> crackhead played around with UUE?
[18:50] <Pir8> ckw aaaah that sucks
[18:50] <rhalff> arnath: there is that virtualbox thing, but never tried it out yet.
[18:50] <Pir8> compiz is pretty nifty
[18:50] <fatejudger> I installed a new hard drive in my computer the other day and now I get prompted for my admin password every time I try and access a separate drive. Is there any way to turn this off and allow any user to access these drives?
[18:51] <arnath> rhalff: well, its not in dapper anyway, so doesnt matter much hehe :)
[18:51] <skarface> anyone know why rss feeds always time out immediately in torrentflux?
[18:51] <aninhumer> Does anyone know how to get filtered videos with "no xv" output?
[18:51] <sylverfox> today was my 5-6 ocasion to try to ask for help setting up an nivida driver to work
[18:51] <nomaS> how can i install dock ?
[18:51] <ckw> Pir8:nah...al the important stuff works now on this machine.....the best thing is that i havent booted to the windows side for 3 days now and thus i have achieved a long standing goal of having my daily use machine m$ free....now thats something to celebrate!!
[18:52] <sylverfox> i couldn't manage the problem
[18:52] <BioGenx2b> here's a question
[18:52] <arnath> sylverfox: tried administration -> restricted drivers yet?
[18:52] <sylverfox> maybe i could just simply give up
[18:52] <crackhead> pga, im using it
[18:52] <Ashfire908> i'm trying to verify a file with a gpg thing. it keeps failing saying it doesn't have the public lky. what am i doing wrong?
[18:52] <BioGenx2b> how do I initiate an install of a newer version of Ubuntu from within Ubuntu, with the appropriate disc in the cd tray?
[18:52] <sylverfox> arnath: that was my first step
[18:52] <crackhead> pga, flawless as of yet...
[18:52] <ckw> Pir8:eventually I'll have a dual core machine with a fast video card and i will be able to check it out
[18:52] <sylverfox> but that's a shlt
[18:53] <Pir8> ckw amen to that. Now that dual monitor are working for me, I will be in the same boat as you. And thanks to VirtualBox I can run XP for development etc use within ubuntu :)
[18:53] <Pir8> ckw sweeet :)
[18:53] <arnath> sylverfox: there's a script that does it, but ive never used it, can't quite remember the name either
[18:53] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, I'm not sure, but I think if you boot the disk there's an update option
[18:53] <sylverfox> envy
[18:53] <arnath> sylverfox: ah ye thats it
[18:53] <BioGenx2b> disc won't boot :(
[18:53] <arnath> sylverfox: that doesnt work either?
[18:53] <BioGenx2b> it keeps freezing every time
[18:53] <NutsPT> CodenameKT: are u there?
[18:53] <sylverfox> could not set it work
[18:54] <sylverfox> i need libpango-dev
[18:54] <BioGenx2b> I have 6.06 installed in my g3
[18:54] <sylverfox> and could not install it
[18:54] <nummer9> does anyone know how to add additional signs like ä,ü,ö,ß to the keyboard-layout?
[18:54] <sylverfox> because i have libpango 1.18.3
[18:54] <BioGenx2b> burned a 7.10 ppc desktop live disc
[18:54] <sylverfox> and have no libpango 1.18.3
[18:54] <BioGenx2b> but again, it freezez and the comp spits it out after a few mins and hangs
[18:54] <ckw> Pir8:indeed....i think my next step is going to put VMWare on here and load XP in it to have it available for those increasingly infrequent times when I need it...;-)
[18:54] <sylverfox> and with libpango 1.18.2 dont work
[18:54] <BioGenx2b> *es
[18:54] <penguin> Hurm, I just upgraded to 7.10, but how do I enable Compiz?
[18:54] <Pir8> Use Virtualbox :)
[18:54] <skarface> anyone know why rss feeds always time out immediately in torrentflux?
[18:54] <sylverfox> once Webpirat set it up to me
[18:55] <arnath> sylverfox: well beats me then :s i haven't had any problems regarding nvidia drivers
[18:55] <sylverfox> but since then i could not find anybody else, who could do the same
[18:55] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, hmm, you might be better sticking with 6.06 for now, if the gutsy disk won't boot
[18:55] <ckw> Pir8:I will check it out...I know there are a number of ways to virtualize..
[18:55] <arnath> Pir8: you have experience using virtualbox? if so, is it good? (comparable to xen/vmware?)
[18:55] <Jabberwock> yelp depends on firefox.. that's so lame.
[18:55] <sylverfox> i have this problem with every nvidia driver
[18:55] <sylverfox> or kernel version
[18:55] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, I think ppc support for 7.10 is unofficial anyway :/
[18:56] <Pir8> arnath,  I've been using it for a few months now, both on linux and windows. Haven't had any problems to report.
[18:56] <Pir8> pretty smooth to be honest.
[18:56] <sylverfox> arnath: do you use nvidia?
[18:56] <penguin> Hurm, I just upgraded to 7.10, but how do I enable Compiz?
[18:56] <arnath> Pir8: it has a commandline interface as well? (and works great on gutsy?)
[18:56] <forneus_> who knows how i dowload from bots with Xchat?
[18:56] <arnath> sylverfox: yes, a geforce 4 ti 4200 and a gts8600
[18:56] <BioGenx2b> poo
[18:56] <sylverfox> i have a GeFroce FX5200
[18:56] <quittt> why the hell, even when I change the colour of background, I still get the ugly brown colour?
[18:56] <BioGenx2b> in that case it's back to trying to find drivers for my rage 128 pro that's installed
[18:56] <sylverfox> but the driver never works with it
[18:57] <Ashfire908> i need help with checking a file with a gpg signature
[18:57] <pga> crackhead UUE would need more than 256MB RAM, right?
[18:57] <arnath> sylverfox: you have tried the official nvidia linux driver?
[18:57] <quittt> it shows that horrible brown colour when I start Gnome...
[18:57] <aninhumer> nummer9, depending on what you're trying to do, it might be better to use the character palette
[18:57] <sylverfox> from where?
[18:57] <Pir8> arnath I am not sure about command line interface, but yes I have been running it on feisty and gutsy and has worked well. Have had XPSP2 and Ubuntu running within it.
[18:57] <arnath> sylverfox: www.nvidia.com
[18:57] <arnath> Pir8: one last consideration: how light is it? cause it has to run on a _very_ old machine
[18:58] <jay> I asked this last night, but: Does anyone know any solutions to getting flash to work with a 64-bit Feisty Fawn?
[18:58] <nummer9> but, i need a a with a point on it every day, but on my keyboard there is no.
[18:58] <BioGenx2b> what's the bash command to run a file?
[18:58] <BioGenx2b> << Totally sucks at bash
[18:58] <quittt> immediatelly after the login, I get a horrible brown colour... how do I change it?
[18:58] <arnath> jay: i haven't used 64 bit yet, but from wot i've picked up, there's loads of documentation on flash & 64 bit systems on the net, just google it
[18:58] <dope> whenever i use mkdiskimage with what I found on the syslinux website it gives me usage.  does anyone know how to use mkdiskimage?
[18:58] <Pir8> arnath its not bloated, I haven't used xen, and I dont really like vmware too much after using vbox
[18:58] <bluesceada> hi, anyone knows a pdf reader that has a good way to deal bookmarks
[18:59] <nummer9> how do i add signs to my keyboard?
[18:59] <arnath> Pir8: ok, will give it a whirl :p
[18:59] <gnomefreak> BioGenx2b: depends on the file most of time its sh file.sh
[18:59] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, if the file is executable you just type ./filename
[18:59] <quittt> do you know what is that?!
[18:59] <Ashfire908> is ubotu down?
[18:59] <Pir8> arnath good luck mate.
[18:59] <BioGenx2b> kk thx
[18:59] <Pir8> Ashfire908,  no
[18:59] <mindrape> !ubotu | Ashfire908
[18:59] <ubot3> Ashfire908: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:59] <arnath> Pir8: thanks :) i just hope it has a commandline interface, or it wont get far ;)
[18:59] <Pir8> ubuntu.com works here
[18:59] <Ashfire908> ok
[18:59] <Pir8> oh ubotu LOL
[18:59] <Pir8> my bad
[18:59] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, if it's not you'll have to run "chmod +x filename" to make it execulatble
[19:00] <Ashfire908> Pir8, it usally is called ubotu not ubot3
[19:00] <Pir8> arnath come to think of I believe it does, yes :)
[19:00] <crackhead> pga, probably, my notebook is loaded...
[19:00] <arnath> Pir8: great :)
[19:00] <jay> amarth: I checked google the other night for about an hour and a half without much luck. I was specifically looking for 3rd-party options, but no such luck so far
[19:00] <pga> crackhead Alright, thanks
[19:00] <pga> crackhead How do I remove an application, that I've compiled myself, by simply removing the application from /usr/local ?
[19:00] <mindrape> pga - go to the directory you compiled from and make uninstall
[19:01] <mindrape> pga - if you erased that directory you can ./config and then make uninstall
[19:01] <Pelo> pga,   perform the same make and then make unininstall
[19:01] <nomaS> !gnome-dock
[19:01] <ubot3> gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[19:01] <mindrape> ...err... re-download the tar.gz... extract... ./config then make uninstall
[19:01] <crackhead> pga, um, full removal, yes, just as mindrape says and pelo
[19:01] <penguin> How do I access all the options Compiz can offer?
[19:01] <Pir8> compiz manager
[19:01] <jose_miguel> hello, could someone help me with a microphone problem? i pasted the output of amixer here: http://pastebin.com/m64e4b799
[19:01] <penguin> K.
[19:02] <Pelo> penguin, go in synaptic search for compiz and instal the compiz settings thingy
[19:02] <Pir8> penguin, System >> Preferences >> Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[19:03] <john`> is it possible to auto insert date in evolution?
[19:03] <john`> as a signature
[19:03] <coldboot> I've got a game controller (Original SNES controller modded to USB) that worked perfectly without doing anything in Ubuntu 6.06, but now in 7.10 it's getting detected as only having 4 buttons instead of 8.
[19:03] <mindrape> john` - Evolution should have a helpfile you can read... all e-mail is date and timestamped as part of standard mail protocols...
[19:03] <coldboot> Does anyone know what could make the controller not work?
[19:03] <goro> Czy koś mówi tu po polsku?
[19:03] <bluesceada> hm not anyone knows a pdf reader that can do bookmarks in a good way?
[19:03] <Pelo> john probably,  with something like <date> or but you'd have to know the syntax
[19:03] <coldboot> It's absolutely not a hardware problem, because I have four controllers and they all don't work in the exact same way.
[19:03] <Pelo> !pl | goro
[19:03] <ubot3> goro: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[19:03] <mindrape> bluesceada - define "good way"
[19:04] <nummer9> Does anyone know how to change the keyboard-layout?
[19:04] <Pelo> bluesceada, there is an acrobat reader for linux,  on the adobe site
[19:04] <john`> ok
[19:04] <bluesceada> mindrape: or .. any way ^^ -- good way like saving,restoring, and an overview over them
[19:04] <Pelo> nummer9,  menu > system > prefs> keyboard
[19:04] <bluesceada> free if possible, and not acrobat reader
[19:04] <RobLloyd> Hi Everyone, So whats the deal with ATI graphics cards now that 7.10 is out? I had a lot of trouble getting widescreen to work with 7.04 and now there are even more problems. any help or advice is appreciated.
[19:05] <nummer9> i'm actually using ion3 instead of gnome.. i'll run the gnome-panel
[19:05] <crackhead> ok guys, im going to try this dock program from gnome-dock that makes it look like osx, its a tar file.. is it tar.xvfz file
[19:05] <goro> tylko jak zmienić kanał?
[19:05] <crackhead> what are the cmds?
[19:05] <Tatster> Hi.  Is it possible to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 remotely over an SSH connection ?
[19:05] <Pelo> RobLloyd, as of 7.10 release drivers are getting easier to install but it's not completely great yet
[19:05] <goro> oki już wiem
[19:05] <Pelo> crackhead,  just right click , extract here
[19:06] <Pelo> crackhead,  for the rest check here   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[19:06] <RobLloyd> pelo: I noticed! do you run an ati card yourself?
[19:06] <HetaUma> hi! can I set the mousewheel button (when pressed) to scroll firefox by moving mouse ?
[19:06] <nummer9> but i have to create an own keyboard-layout,
[19:06] <Pelo> RobLloyd, no I don'T sorry,  but amd/ati is getting better I am told,  I just read another article on digg that claimed they were doing some more work on it
[19:07] <mindrape> bluesceada - try kGhostView... ?
[19:07] <aninhumer> HetaUma, Edit>Perferenced
[19:07] <Pelo> nummer9,  the scim thingy in the admin menu, might be userfull
[19:07] <RobLloyd> pelo: do you have the link to the article?
[19:07] <aninhumer> HetaUma, sry finger slipped
[19:07] <nummer9> thanks, pelo!
[19:07] <larson9999> Pelo, it will be funny to start hearing, "ati pwns nvidia on linux."
[19:07] <Pelo> !mouse | HetaUma
[19:07] <ubot3> HetaUma: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[19:08] <aninhumer> HetaUma, Edit>Prefs>Advanced>Use autoscrolling
[19:08] <kst> whats the best/a good way to get my TV working with my ati x700 via tv-out?
[19:08] <Pelo> larson9999, I'm not much of a fanboy of anything,  as long I as don'T have to trouble shoot it, I'm happy
[19:08] <HetaUma> aninhumer, thanx alot
[19:08] <aninhumer> :)
[19:09] <Pelo> kst,  look up your card model in the forum www.ubuntofurms.org or here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[19:09] <larson9999> Pelo, i'm with you.  well, i'm a fanboy of freedom.  but i want things to work first
[19:09] <crackhead> Pelo, that didnt really help, i did extract here, but now i need to install it,
[19:09] <crackhead> i have the folder akamaru
[19:09] <aninhumer> Gah, I always come on here to ask a question and end up answering them instead :P
[19:09] <RobLloyd> kst: in my experience with ati cards, get an nvidia one.... drivers dont seem to be up to scratch yet!
[19:09] <gianluca> hello
[19:09] <gianluca> i've a problem with my sound blester's driver
[19:09] <kkathman> gianluca,  hello to you :)
[19:10] <jimmygoon> aninhumer, same here
[19:10] <kst> lol RobLloyd ... it's in a notebook ;-) and no, i had it working on feisty but everything is gone now :(
[19:10] <kst> brb!
[19:10] <Pelo> crackhead,  extracting the tar.gz folder is the first step,  no open a terminal,    cd to the extracted folder,  type ./configure,  install all required dependencies,  then make , then sudo make install
[19:10] <BioGenx2b> how do I access my samba shares on my my ubuntu machine from my windows machine?
[19:10] <`NaDa> how can i make my network card work?
[19:10] <gianluca> i've a sound blaster audiology 24 bit and ubuntu 7.10 but ubuntu ricognise the board like 4 board
[19:10] <Jabberwock> That's more of a windows question
[19:11] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, in my experience they appear just like a regular windows shares
[19:11] <gianluca> what can i do?
[19:11] <bluesceada> mindrape: yeh kghostview doesnt do anything with bookmarks and kpdf doesnt have an overview over the bookmarks you created :/
[19:11] <Jabberwock> Assuming you have samba set up properly
[19:11] <BioGenx2b> hrm
[19:11] <Lawkiez> Hi, does compiz-fusion come with Kubuntu 7.10 ?
[19:11] <Pelo> Lawkiez, yes
[19:11] <BioGenx2b> my ubuntu machine isn't showing up in my windows network at all
[19:11] <chronos> I'm having problems with my NVIDIA card in gusty. I've enabled the restricted drivers, but I still can't run a GL screensaver.
[19:11] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, do they appear in the Places>Network on your own machine?
[19:12] <BioGenx2b> I can ping the machine via ip, but not the computer name I gave it a while ago
[19:12] <gianluca> somebody can help me?
[19:12] <BioGenx2b> yeah
[19:12] <BioGenx2b> I can access all windows machines from my linux box
[19:12] <Pelo> gianluca,  start by liooking up your model here and in hte forum see if there are any special instructions,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport www.ubuntuforums.org
[19:12] <BioGenx2b> but not vice versa
[19:12] <crackhead> pelo, the ./configure is not an option
[19:12] <gianluca> ok i look now
[19:12] <`NaDa> can any1 tell me how to make my network card work?
[19:12] <norman>   /join #ubuntu-es
[19:12] <Pelo> BioGenx2b,  you probably need to setup permission for it in samba
[19:12] <Radio_man> linuXoff..the new and inproved windows cleaner......brought to you by the makers of Ubuntu.
[19:12] <wd> just installed ubuntu, want to change time and date, asking for admin pass but won't take. help.
[19:13] <Pelo> crackhead, did you cd to the folder first ?
[19:13] <BioGenx2b> the machine won't even show up in the list otherwise?
[19:13] <crackhead> yep
[19:13] <crackhead> Pelo, yep
[19:13] <unggnu> ubuntuusers ist so überlastet
[19:13] <crackhead> ./configure is not an option
[19:13] <Pelo> crackhead,  gimme a direct link to the  tar.gz file so I can have a look
[19:13] <unggnu> die haben von google wieder auf die normale Suche umgestellt
[19:13] <unggnu> Dabei war die von Google fast besser, weil schneller und auch automatisch eine Textsuche
[19:13] <Pelo> !de | unggnu
[19:13] <crackhead> Pelo, um,
[19:13] <ubot3> unggnu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:13] <unggnu> sorry
[19:13] <unggnu> wrong channel
[19:13] <crackhead> Pelo, um
[19:14] <neosix> hello!!!
[19:14] <Pelo> crackhead,  give me a link to the source so I can download it
[19:14] <chazco> Hi... got an interesting probem following an upgrade to 7.10... A webpage (my uni timetable) no longer works correctly in Firefox, it takes ages to load, if it does load at all. Is there any way to install an alternative browser to test?
[19:14] <Pelo> !hi | neosix
[19:14] <ubot3> neosix: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:14] <`NaDa> HELP!
[19:14] <aninhumer> BioGenx, if the shares work okay between linux machines, it might be a problem with windows
[19:14] <Pelo> chazco, epiphany
[19:14] <Jimmey> 'Nada what kind of network card?
[19:14] <BioGenx2b> I only have one linux machine
[19:15] <crackhead> Pelo, http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/akamaru.tar.gz
[19:15] <BioGenx2b> the windows shares work fine on it
[19:15] <Pelo> crackhead, give me a few min to get it and have a look
[19:15] <neosix> I try to use apt-get locally. I create dir, then dpkg scanpackages, add line tu sources.list, but apt-get install doesn't work locally yet. Can anybody help me?
[19:15] <BioGenx2b> however, I can only access XP via Ubu, but not the other way around
[19:15] <crackhead> Pelo, thanks
[19:15] <Jimmey> `Nada what kind of network card wireless or wired
[19:16] <`NaDa> Jimmey, is a wired RTL-8139
[19:16] <`NaDa> im using now wireless cuz cant use my wired card
[19:17] <PoMMiE`> is there a website with base terminal commands and helpfile?
[19:17] <`NaDa> it appear detected but in link information doesnt give any IP at all
[19:18] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - cd /bin   man each one individually.  ;)
[19:18] <`NaDa> it doesnt connect to modem
[19:18] <PoMMiE`> cd /bin opens the bin dir?
[19:18] <enyc> `NaDa: hrrrm doesnt get a dhcp lease ....
[19:18] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, I guess I'm at the edge of my knowledge here, If they appear fine in Places>Network>Windows Network
[19:18] <Pelo> crackhead, this doesn't seem to be a straight forward compile,  check on the site for installation instructions
[19:18] <shadowhywind> what is the console command to tell you what version of ubuntu you are running?
[19:18] <`NaDa> nothing at all
[19:18] <kkathman> PoMMiE`,  google and you'll find several, or I can give you a couple of good sites
[19:18] <PoMMiE`> that has all the help files or commands
[19:18] <neosix> So can anybody help me to use ap-get locally?
[19:18] <`NaDa> everything is <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:18] <enyc> `NaDa: hrrm can you get green_light... can you get address from any other dhcp servers?
[19:18] <crackhead> Pelo, i did, but its jacked up for some reason
[19:18] <PoMMiE`> go on then man
[19:18] <mindrape> lsb_release -a  <--- Ubuntu version
[19:18] <PoMMiE`> cheers :)
[19:18] <Pelo> crackhead,  jacked up ?
[19:18] <Jimmey> `Nada have you tried Ndiswraapper?
[19:19] <enyc> `NaDa: to check for hardward problem whatnot, I would test from KNOPPIX or similar live disk
[19:19] <BioGenx2b> er, lemme rephrase the answer to that which I gave you
[19:19] <PoMMiE`> i heard you dont need antivirus on linux... cus its not net active like windows
[19:19] <enyc> Jimmey: rtl8139 dave been long supported
[19:19] <BioGenx2b> under Ubuntu, my windows shares show up fine
[19:19] <BioGenx2b> under windows, my ubuntu shares are invisible
[19:19] <Jimmey> sorry my bad
[19:19] <enyc> Jimmey: ndiswrapper wast of time etc.... 8139too driver been there ages
[19:19] <kkathman> PoMMiE`,   http://linuxcommand.org/
[19:19] <diana`> hi someone gave me a link to help me understand how to configure my bluetooth and i thought i bookmarked it and i didn't.  can anyone help?
[19:19] <shadowhywind> thanks
[19:19] <PoMMiE`> all terminals are the same i guess.. its all linux under the bonnet huh
[19:19] <`NaDa> Jimmey, i dont know how to use that
[19:19] <bluefox83> diana`, check your history>?
[19:19] <kkathman> PoMMiE`,  http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml
[19:20] <Pelo> BioGenx2b,  do you need to set permissions in samba , on the ubuntu side to give windows permission to access the share or something ?  try asking for help on this in #samba they probably know better
[19:20] <diana`> lol duh thanks
[19:20] <wim> what up
[19:20] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - "net active"?  Not sure what that means.. mainly linux has fewer viruses because to do a lot of damage you need to run the virus as the root user.  By default more and more linux distros lock down the root account.  Additionally, Linux isn't as widespread on the desktop as Windows so fewer virus writers are presently targeting it </my two cents>
[19:20] <enyc> `NaDa: to check for hardward problem whatnot, I would test from KNOPPIX or similar live disk  (something that is NOT the installed system)
[19:20] <BioGenx2b> I'll try that, thanks.
[19:20] <soundray> diana`: have a bit of patience
[19:20] <wim> anybody want to have sex?
[19:20] <Jimmey> `Nada you don't have to use it cause the RTL-8139 is supported
[19:20] <diana`> i didn't think of my history
[19:20] <PoMMiE`> oh also i was wondering. i found 2 other os. sabayon and slackware. is ubuntu the  best option?
[19:20] <mindrape> wim - trolling isn't appreciated here.
[19:20] <diana`> thanks
[19:20] <`NaDa> Jimmey, but it works perfect under windows
[19:20] <wim> diana, what to fuck>
[19:21] <Pelo> wim, this is a linux support channel, not a good place to ask , we're all celibate
[19:21] <bluefox83> PoMMiE`, try them all and decide for yourself
[19:21] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, Pelo, I know I had problems with using my shares before I changed the permissions, but shouldn't they at least appear on windows?
[19:21] <kkathman> PoMMiE`,  you are in ubuntu, do you think someone here will say no ? hehe
[19:21] <mindrape> wim - if you'd like to continue to make a fool of yourself we can report you to the server admins and get you banned from Freenode...
[19:21] <mindrape> and he's gone...
[19:21] <Pelo> aninhumer,  I'm not hte one to ask , on this I just give general advice
[19:21] <enyc> PoMMiE`: thats up to you...  ubuntu is very popular...  slackware is very different... sabayon is a system with tons of stiff installed out of the box i understand
[19:21] <`NaDa> how do i c in comand line the network stats?
[19:22] <mindrape> `NaDa sudo ifconfig  ???
[19:22] <jonfish> hey how do I change the graphics driver from command line? I can't get xserver to run on boot
[19:22] <aninhumer> kk
[19:22] <darkdebian> mm
[19:22] <jonfish> In mandriva I would use xdrake
[19:22] <zavestang07> I have a question for anyone who can help. Has anyone successfully gotten an Intel ICH based Raid0 to work on ubuntu?
[19:22] <soundray> Is ubotu unwell?
[19:22] <enyc> jonfish: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[19:22] <Pelo> jonfish,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:22] <mindrape> !ubotu soundray
[19:22] <ubot3> Factoid ubotu soundray not found
[19:22] <darkdebian> can depend of your driver
[19:22] <mindrape> !ubotu | soundray
[19:22] <ubot3> soundray: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:22] <jonfish> ok thanks
[19:22] <jussi01> soundray: its on holidays
[19:22] <darkdebian> you can use aticontig
[19:22] <darkdebian> hi!!
[19:22] <darkdebian> I'm new
[19:22] <wd> just installed ubuntu, want to change time and date, asking for admin pass but won't take. help.
[19:23] <nomaS> how can i install dock ?
[19:23] <Pelo> soundray,  ubotu's evil twin locked him up in a cupboard and won't  let him out
[19:23] <darkdebian> from Chile :-P
[19:23] <nomaS> !dock
[19:23] <ubot3> Factoid dock not found
[19:23] <Pelo> nomaS, google for avant windows navigator
[19:23] <bluefox83> wd, try getting the password right?
[19:23] <BioGenx2b> aninhumer : I'm sure I was able to use shares fine years ago with RedHat 8.0, but I can't make any sense of this roadblock
[19:23] <darkdebian> greetings from chile
[19:23] <soundray> Pelo, jussi01: that explains it, thanks. Holidays in a cupboard.
[19:23] <BioGenx2b> where can I go to check what my network computer name is set to?
[19:23] <soundray> :)
[19:23] <wd> bluefox83, never installed a admin pass
[19:23] <mindrape> !sudo | wd
[19:23] <ubot3> wd: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[19:23] <`NaDa> now this is weird
[19:23] <kkathman> darkdebian,  greetings and welcome
[19:23] <darkdebian> thanks!
[19:24] <bluefox83> wb, it's the password you gave it when you installed ubuntu
[19:24] <`NaDa> i have to connections with differents MAC but using same driver
[19:24] <soundray> diana`: have you found it in the meantime? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[19:24] <`NaDa> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:21:23:8E:3B
[19:24] <`NaDa> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0E:3B:08:2F:69
[19:24] <`NaDa> ???
[19:24] <diana`> no soundray
[19:24] <aninhumer> BioGenx2b, As I said, I've never had any trouble with them so I can't really help sorry :/ Have you tried turning it off and on? :P
[19:24] <diana`> thanks
[19:24] <Konam> hi
[19:24] <pga> What are the utilites I need to download in order to configure kernel? build-essential, libqt3 .. what else?
[19:25] <soundray> !kernelcompile | pga
[19:25] <wd> bluefox83, pass worked
[19:25] <ubot3> pga: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[19:25] <bluefox83> wd, good deal
[19:25] <aninhumer> wd, I wouldn't tell people your password
[19:25] <Konam> someone can tell me how can I install GRUB and make it recognize my windows partition, I reinstalled grub but it didn't recognize my windows partition
[19:25] <chazco> hmm... even with alternate browsers it still doesnt work... has something change between 7.04 and 7.10 that could cause this? It still works on my laptop (same connection)....
[19:25] <diana`> i was searching my history, but i couldn't remember what day it was.
[19:25] <Pelo> Konam,  is windows on a different hdd ?
[19:25] <aninhumer> wd, whoops, I thought you meant bluefox was your pass :P
[19:25] <wd> aninhumer,  ok
[19:25] <Konam> Pelo yes
[19:25] <wd> aninhumer, np
[19:25] <BioGenx2b> aninhumer : yeah, I deleted the share and made a new one, still no luck
[19:26] <mlhoyle> hi any one know any good peer2peer download programs
[19:26] <nownot> im looking for a usenet newsread that i can use command line base, any suggestions?
[19:26] <darkdebian> amule mlhoyle
[19:26] <Pelo> Konam,  which is the boot hdd in the bios , the one with ubuntu or the one with windows ?
[19:26] <darkdebian> or azureus
[19:26] <soundray> !p2p | mlhoyle
[19:26] <ubot3> mlhoyle: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[19:26] <darkdebian> use a distributed bittorrent
[19:26] <elba1> If I reduce the amount of ram on my machine, is there a setting or config I need to update?
[19:27] <soundray> elba1: no
[19:27] <darkdebian> mmm
[19:27] <Konam> Pelo I don't know :/
[19:27] <Pelo> Konam,  meet me in #pelo please
[19:27] <darkdebian> who have troubles with network-manager in gutsy??
[19:27] <MacDrunk> hello all
[19:27] <aninhumer> ooh you have your own room :P
[19:28] <bosse> hey there, im having problems with my r250 ati card no 3d accel
[19:28] <MacDrunk> anyone here has used crossover?
[19:28] <mindrape> darkdebian - if we had troubles with it we'd ask a specific question about our troubles.  Do you have a specific trouble?
[19:28] <mindrape> !ask
[19:28] <ubot3> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:28] <darkdebian> yes
[19:28] <FluxD> MacDrunk: yes
[19:28] <darkdebian> yes mindrape
[19:28] <MacDrunk> which version?
[19:28] <Meroigo__> anyone here that knows how to make the picture on the screen ouput as noninterlaced or something? I think that's my problem. I notice it the most when I watch video and much happen at the same time, it's like the bottom and upper part of the screen isn't updating at the same time.
[19:28] <mindrape> darkdebian - well ask a good well structured question and we will try to help.
[19:28] <coldboot> Does anyone know how to properly configure game controllers in Linux? I have an 8 button controller getting detected as only 4 buttons...
[19:28] <bosse> does anyone know how to egt 3d accel with a ati 9000 mobility card? in gutsy
[19:29] <FluxD> MacDrunk: latest I think 6 or 6.2 not sure which
[19:29] <darkdebian> the nm-applet in gnome only say "Manual configuration..."
[19:29] <MacDrunk> FluxD: did you pay for it
[19:29] <Lawkiez> is this with ubuntu or kubuntu -> http://gallery.basquiat.de/d/1614-3/dark10.png
[19:29] <darkdebian> In feisty tjis happen when have a bad structured /etc/network/interface
[19:30] <aninhumer> Meroigo__, sounds more like v-sync problems than interlacing,
[19:30] <darkdebian> but the file its ok, I dont understand
[19:30] <FluxD> MacDrunk: I was not using it on my computer, but my friend paid for it yes
[19:30] <bluefox83> so, does anyone know how to get rid of duplicate entries in all of the applications menus?
[19:30] <MacDrunk> FluxD: so what did you think of it??
[19:30] <darkdebian> midrape helpme, please
[19:30] <bluefox83> like a way to just say "hey i've got more than one listing for that" in a script, and just trim it down?
[19:30] <kkathman> bluefox83,  use the menu editor?
[19:31] <bluefox83> kkathman, that just seems a bit too much like work to me...
[19:31] <kkathman> bluefox83,  lol well its basically the way you do it :)
[19:31] <bluefox83> one entry at a time is too freakin slow when you have hundreds of entries >.>
[19:31] <FluxD> MacDrunk: I dont think it has any "special" stuff compared to wine just a few tweaks here and there
[19:31] <Meroigo__> aninhumer > nice, now I know more what the problem could possibly be =)
[19:31] <Meroigo__> aninhumer > you know how to figure out what vsync ranges etc the screen has?
[19:31] <MacDrunk> FluxD: so you say wine is better than croosover
[19:31] <mindrape> darkdebian - you seem new here and I am trying to be patient so let me give you my perspective on your question...
[19:32] <darkdebian> ok
[19:32] <mindrape> darkdebian - lets do a little analogy... your life is "linux" and your wife is "the network problem"
[19:32] <darkdebian> excuse me my bad english
[19:32] <trapito02> hola?
[19:32] <mindrape> You basically just told me that your wife said "I have a headache"
[19:32] <mindrape> Unless you tell me the events leading up to her saying that it could be a NUMBER of things...
[19:32] <darkdebian> mmm
[19:32] <dan-g> Hi, I'm dual-booting Windows XP and Gutsy 7.10, after my first time booting back into Windows, GRUB no longer loads on system start, just goes right into Windows... I'm currently running from my Ubuntu live CD... any suggestions?
[19:32] <FluxD> MacDrunk: wine is excellent for being free and I dont see anything extra in croosover worth paying for
[19:32] <mindrape> I might recommend you do anything from "give her a foot massage" to "file for divorce" to "quit pestering her" to whatever
[19:33] <mikegiar> Hi, I'm trying to recover some data
[19:33] <aninhumer> Meroigo__, I'm not sure, but perhaps if you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you can detect it in the vsnyc questions?
[19:33] <MacDrunk> FluxD: ok do you know the page for wine
[19:33] <FluxD> !grub | dan-g
[19:33] <ubot3> dan-g: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:33] <darkdebian> mindrape, mi wife is network-manager :-P
[19:33] <Meroigo__> hmm okay
[19:33] <mindrape> darkdebian - just an analogy  ;)  I surely hope she is more to you than just a network manager
[19:33] <mikegiar> my 7.04 install of ubuntu will no longer boot up. I'd like to access my laptop hard drive to get some files and then reinstall. I booted with a 6.06 live CD and want to see my hard drive. What do i need to do?
[19:33] <darkdebian> mindrape ;-)
[19:33] <songoku> hi everyone. I have a problem upgrading ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10, could anyone help me?
[19:34] <FluxD> MacDrunk: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[19:34] <aninhumer> Meroigo__, I think it suggests ranges for different sizes of monitors too
[19:34] <soundray> bluefox83: you could probably delete your ./.config/menus in safe mode and regenerate it with update-menus.
[19:34] <mindrape> songoku - details of the problem will be required.  We are always willing to help... BE SPECIFIC.
[19:34] <r00723r0> how do i get every program installed on my computer?
[19:34] <mindrape> r00723r0 - EVERY program from EVERY repository?
[19:34] <mindrape> step 1) find every repository step 2) add them all to sources.list
[19:34] <mindrape> once you get that far come back and I'll walk you through the rest.
[19:34] <aninhumer> "sudo apt-get install *" ? :P
[19:35] <r00723r0> ...
[19:35] <soundray> r00723r0: I'm pretty sure you don't want that
[19:35] <r00723r0> i do
[19:35] <soundray> r00723r0: why?
[19:35] <r00723r0> i want to see every program installed on my computer
[19:35] <r00723r0> if anyone's used gentoo it would be like emerge --pretend --emptytree
[19:35] <soundray> r00723r0: okay, your question was ambiguous
[19:35] <Meroigo__> aninhumer > I see.
[19:35] <arooni> how can i use gutsy to swap the left alt key with the left windows key?
[19:35] <mindrape> r00723r0 - you want to see what you presently have installed or you want to install everything?
[19:35] <soundray> r00723r0: dpkg --get-selections
[19:35] <r00723r0> ahhh, sorry
[19:35] <r00723r0> i want to see what i have installed
[19:35] <Rouls> help please
[19:36] <soundray> !elaborate | Rouls
[19:36] <ubot3> Rouls: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[19:36] <soundray> r00723r0: dpkg --get-selections
[19:36] <r00723r0> thanks :)
[19:36] <mikegiar> hi guys, does anyone know how I could find my hard drive while running a live CD
[19:36] <songoku> I use this website : http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/09/upgrade-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-to.html, and follow the instruction until "Fetching the uppgrades" , then I left the computer run by itself. 6 hours later when I came back, my laptop ran out of battery. Now I can't log onto ubuntu anymore
[19:37] <soundray> mikegiar: how do you mean 'find' -- just see the partitioning or work with the data?
[19:37] <songoku> I just want to recover ubuntu
[19:37] <soundray> songoku: can you start recovery mode?
[19:37] <mindrape> songoku - if there was a general power failure in the middle of the install your best bet is to just reinstall from scratch.
[19:37] <Rouls> i have done this http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/ati_proprietaire and now my keyb is english instead of french and my display is very low
[19:37] <darkdebian> mindrape - how can I get information about the state of network, network manager, and dbus??
[19:37] <mikegiar> work with, and move the data to an ext drive
[19:37] <aninhumer> mikegiar, it should mount automatically, and appear on the desktop
[19:37] <Rouls> can you help me please
[19:37] <CLAMSCASINO> stupid question... but how do i check HD space?
[19:37] <mindrape> darkdebian - what specific network information do you want?
[19:37] <loony> is gtk+ installed as default?
[19:37] <mindrape> darkdebian - packets sent/received?  IP address?  Subnet?
[19:38] <mikegiar> yeah, it's not showing up
[19:38] <soundray> Rouls: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' -- make sensible settings. If you're unsure, accept the default.
[19:38] <jonasj> mikegiar: you are using the dapper live cd, right? if you downloaded a newer one, it should work automatically
[19:38] <mindrape> CLAMSCASINO -   df -h
[19:38] <darkdebian> mindrape - If the cable is plugged in
[19:38] <mistone> loony: gnome is based on gtk
[19:38] <Rouls> ok ill test
[19:38] <mikegiar> jonas - i'm using 6.06 live cd
[19:38] <CLAMSCASINO> thanks mindrape
[19:38] <mindrape> CLAMSCASINO - for a specific directory man du
[19:38] <r00723r0> hmm
[19:38] <songoku> soundray: I can start the recovery mode
[19:38] <r00723r0> i asked the wrong question
[19:39] <soundray> songoku: in recovery mode, run 'apt-get -f install'. That should complete the update.
[19:39] <r00723r0> how do i see everything i have installed that isn't a dependency?
[19:39] <darkdebian> mindrape - because only say "Manual configuration..." and not say Wired connection and my dial-up pppoe connections
[19:39] <Xecuter88> Hi! How can I install the Screen and Graphics?? Updated from 7.04 to 7.10, but i don't have the Screens and Graphics util...
[19:39] <songoku> soundray: I'll try, thanks
[19:39] <PoMMiE`> ok... today im making real effort to get down with the terminal
[19:39] <aninhumer> mikegiar, I don't think dapper does it by default, if possible you should get a newer version
[19:39] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - CLI > GUI.  The sooner the world realizes that the better.  ;P
[19:40] <PoMMiE`> im sorry i have no idea what your talking about...yet
[19:40] <loony> mistone: hum.. k.. but I'm trying to install xfec, but I get a error saying that it cant find glib... but on the install page for xfec it says that I might have to tell the installer where its installed.. ? (Im a noob :)
[19:40] <buntunu1> anyone have any luck getting Caesar IV to run in wine?
[19:40] <soundray> r00723r0: good question. I, too, would like to know how to do that,
[19:40] <PoMMiE`> i wanted to run driver
[19:40] <mikegiar> aninhumer, I will try that. Thank you
[19:40] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - CLI = Command Line Interface  GUI = Graphical User Interface.
[19:40] <Troubled_Youth> Hey, I got a question. When I goto Places-> Computer...I can double click and mount a drive. Anyway to have my Windows Partitions Auto-mount?
[19:40] <jonasj> mikegiar: how many hard disks are in your machine? just one?
[19:40] <PoMMiE`> test succest
[19:40] <PoMMiE`> ffs... who moved my return key
[19:40] <r00723r0> soundray, :(
[19:40] <mikegiar> jonasj: yes, 1
[19:40] <jonasj> mikegiar: ide or sata drive?
[19:40] <r00723r0> does that mean it's impossible or you don't know how?
[19:40] <mindrape> !samba | Troubled_Youth
[19:40] <ubot3> Troubled_Youth: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:40] <PoMMiE`> which one does ubuntu have mindrape
[19:41] <Troubled_Youth> hmm :3
[19:41] <soundray> r00723r0: I'm sure it's possible.
[19:41] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - both...
[19:41] <PoMMiE`> yeah... im a noob
[19:41] <mistone> loony: you mean xfce?
[19:41] <PoMMiE`> it does
[19:41] <PoMMiE`> noice
[19:41] <mikegiar> jonasj: not sure it's in a Dell laptop
[19:41] <Xecuter88>  Hi! How can I install the Screen and Graphics?? Updated from 7.04 to 7.10, but i don't have the Screens and Graphics util...
[19:41] <loony> mistone : yes
[19:41] <r00723r0> soundray, ok :(
[19:41] <PoMMiE`> gui is the add/remove right?... cli is the terminal?
[19:41] <mistone> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[19:41] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - A+... ;)
[19:41] <r00723r0> nobody knows how to see every package i manually installed?
[19:41] <mistone> loony: its that simple you don't need to compile anything :P
[19:41] <Troubled_Youth> mindrape: So it'll do it? :p
[19:41] <PoMMiE`> sudo get-apt blah shlte that lets ya install through add/remove
[19:41] <mindrape> r00723r0 - manually installed as in compiled or installed from a .deb outside of apt-get?
[19:41] <jonasj> mikegiar: try typing  sudo mount /dev/hda and press tab. does it add a number?
[19:41] <r00723r0> mindrape, as in not dependency
[19:42] <mindrape> Troubled_Youth - read the link ubot3 posted.
[19:42] <Troubled_Youth> Ah xP
[19:42] <soundray> r00723r0: just thinking aloud here: you could do a 'dpkg --get-selections | cut -d " " -f 1 >installed-list'
[19:42] <darkdebian> mindrape - what can I do?
[19:42] <esnip> how csn i get firefox to connect to internet with ubuntu server 7.10
[19:42] <loony> thx
[19:42] <songoku> soundray: when I run that command, it said " dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg -- configure -a' to correct the problem" ???
[19:42] <mistone> loony: once you install, when your about to login, choose sessions then choose xfce
[19:42] <jonasj> mikegiar: i mean: type "sudo mount /dev/hda" and press tab two times. what options do you get?
[19:42] <r00723r0> soundray, nope
[19:42] <mikegiar> jonasj:no number just a space
[19:43] <unforcer> PLease tell me why the twinview + compiz is not working so that I can have two desktop with 1280x1024 not only one desktop with 2568x1568?? SOMEONE?
[19:43] <aninhumer> r00723r0, by any chance are you trying to get a list of apps that you're installed so you can install elsewhere?
[19:43] <soundray> r00723r0: I'm not finished yet...
[19:43] <mistone> loony: use google :P
[19:43] <r00723r0> aninhumer, nope
[19:43] <jonasj> mikegiar: what about "sudo mount /dev/sda" and tab two times
[19:43] <jonasj> mikegiar: anything happen?
[19:43] <PoMMiE`> my fiance.. shes wanting to move over to ubuntu. but her onboard gfx on her laptop are intel chips. and her wireless networking is done through onboard wifi. what are the chances of her installing ubuntu with no problems as far as network is concerned?
[19:43] <soundray> songoku: just follow that suggestion then.
[19:43] <r00723r0> soundray, ahh, i was just responding to your current thoughts, sorry
[19:43] <gribouille> hi
[19:43] <r00723r0> aninhumer, i'm trying to clean out my computer
[19:43] <f00bar2k> which key is "left click" when using mousekeys?
[19:43] <gribouille> I install packages with apt-get, but they aren't listed with apt-file. what does that mean ?
[19:43] <ircd> i need help
[19:43] <Pelo> ircd, we need questions
[19:44] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - everything should be great except the wireless... wireless has always been a trouble spot for me, especially with onboard wifi.  My Cisco wireless Aironet card works like a champ though...
[19:44] <PoMMiE`> and btw. wine sucks. i cant even play driving test success 2008. the thing i really really need to pass my driving theory test in 2 weeks
[19:44] <mikegiar> jonasj: when i press tab the second time and / appears
[19:44] <ircd> when it says use the ./makeconf command in the terminal what do i do
[19:44] <ircd> it doesent work
[19:44] <jonasj> mikegiar: what did you type?
[19:44] <soundray> r00723r0: then do a 'cat installed-list | xargs apt-cache depends >dependency-list'
[19:44] <PoMMiE`> does ubuntu autodetect those cards... well to the point it recognises them even if you have to activate them?
[19:44] <Pelo> ircd, try ./configure and then make
[19:44] <mindrape> ircd - cd /path/you/extracted/to     ./makeconf    or  ./configure
[19:45] <PoMMiE`> i got major issues with it. my wireless is a usb based belkin G
[19:45] <r00723r0> soundray, nope
[19:45] <aninhumer> r00723r0, by removing unneeded apps? TBH, if you can't remember them they proly weren't big enough to be worth it, but anywho
[19:45] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - yes... I have had no problem detecting them.  Getting the right driver to work is another issue.
[19:45] <mikegiar> jonasj: when I typed "sudo mount /dev/sda" and pressed tab two times, nothing happened
[19:45] <soundray> r00723r0: then every line in installed-list that isn't in dependency-list is a package that isn't a dependency, i.e. a leaf in the dependency tree
[19:45] <r00723r0> aninhumer, i am a minimalist
[19:45] <PoMMiE`> it recognises it in the hardware section in system. but it dunt be workin
[19:45] <buntunu1> Anyone know how to get Caesar IV to work in wine on Ubuntu?
[19:45] <r00723r0> wow lol soundray
[19:45] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - at the command line you can type   lspci to see what it detected or     dmesg    to see a lot more info about what was discovered at boot in general.
[19:45] <PoMMiE`> wine is a pain in the bum
[19:45] <kantor> why was removed Beryl from Gutsy ??
[19:45] <kst> after messing around some with aticonfig and xorg.conf to get my tvout to work, my xserver won't work anymore when the Driver is set to "fglrx", i get all kind of weird colours.. can someone tell me how to fix this? I manually installed 8.40.x and they were working well... or how do I remove all manually installed drivers and go back to the proprietary ones from repositories?
[19:45] <ircd> it says bash: ./makeconf: No such file or directory
[19:45] <ircd>  when i i type it in to the terminal
[19:45] <r00723r0> kantor, use compiz-fusion instead
[19:46] <mindrape> !compiz | kantor
[19:46] <ubot3> kantor: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:46] <aninhumer> r00723r0, me too, I'm just thinking it might be more trouble than it's worth
[19:46] <r00723r0> soundray, that's sketchy ashell
[19:46] <jonasj> mikegiar: neither with hda or sda it suggests something like hda1 or sda1? strange
[19:46] <troseph> Anyone had problems using the x64 edition of Ubuntu?
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> yeah lspci tells me this.pommer@pommer-desktop:/bin$ lspci
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01)
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI-X Root Port
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 437A Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 4379 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
[19:46] <soundray> r00723r0: so you do a 'cat installed-list dependency-list | sort | uniq -c | grep " 1"' to get the list you want
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80)
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 81)
[19:46] <bulmer> ircd-> are you in the source directory of the package you want to compile?
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (rev 80)
[19:46] <mikegiar> jonas: yes it didn't suggest a number for either
[19:46] <mindrape> !paste
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[19:46] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:46] <darkdebian> kantor, gutsy have compiz fussion, its more stable
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80)
[19:46] <aninhumer> !pastebin
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80)
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1)
[19:46] <ircd> yes
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[19:46] <troseph> !x64
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> 02:04.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem
[19:46] <ubot3> Factoid x64 not found
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> did not mean to flood
[19:46] <PoMMiE`> sorry
[19:46] <soundray> r00723r0: let me try that here so I find the hitches :)
[19:47] <BigGaz67> newbie question after installing a some software packages on ubuntu 7.10, every program I run takes about 10 seconds or more to load up and after a session has started the desktop takes about 30 sec to 60 seconds to stablise, any ideas
[19:47] <troseph> !64 bit
[19:47] <ubot3> Factoid 64 bit not found
[19:47] <mindrape> BigGaz67 - pull up a terminal and type top
[19:47] <troseph> !64-bit
[19:47] <ubot3> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[19:47] <Pelo> troseph, we usualy tell ppl to use the 32bit version unless they have real need of 64 bit,  amd64 doesn't include flash,  and some drivers for nvidia/ati and some wifi stuff as welll
[19:47] <jonasj> mikegiar: that is strange. i think you should try downloading the latest version and trying with that live cd - it should detect your disk automatically
[19:47] <bulmer> ircd you have to learn to prefix your responses with the nick to whom you're responding to
[19:47] <PoMMiE`> yah my laptop is dual core athlon 64s
[19:47] <hernan> i like help
[19:47] <troseph> Pelo: That's lame.
[19:47] <mikegiar> jonasj: thanks I will try with the lastest live cd. downloading now
[19:47] <PoMMiE`> it supporting the dual cores yet
[19:47] <kantor> mindrape, ubot3 is compiz better ? or has some better points ?
[19:47] <ircd> ok
[19:48] <arooni> folks; i tried in gutsy to swap the left alt key with the left windows key.... when i did that, i got the error: Error activating XKB configuration.  ... ideas?
[19:48] <Pelo> troseph, blame adobe and ati/nvidia
[19:48] <mindrape> kantor - Beryl and Compiz re-merged... Compiz is the "new" name.
[19:48] <niina> compiz fusion
[19:48] <troseph> Pelo: wasn't blaming anyone really, that's just lamecity. :)
[19:48] <troseph> Pelo: thanks though.
[19:48] <Pc_Dark> how do I set ubuntu server to install to work as a VM
[19:48] <Pc_Dark> Is there a special boot param?
[19:48] <PoMMiE`> seens to me with the traffic flowing through this room. ubuntu isnt such the easy windows alternative it was making out to be lol
[19:48] <darkdebian> mindrape - what can I do?
[19:48] <wdavis> Hi, I was hoping someone here could help me out with something
[19:48] <BigGaz67> mindrape, ok, done that
[19:49] <OSCAR_ACOSTA> where can I change the window title bars to be not transparent when inactive?
[19:49] <niina01> wdavis: with what?
[19:49] <Pelo> Pc_Dark, setup your vm ,and install from there
[19:49] <aninhumer> Pelo, I thought there was support for wrapping flash, I read somewhere it was even done by default
[19:49] <soundray> r00723r0: still listening?
[19:49] <mindrape> Pc_Dark - you want to run a virtual machine on your server or you want to run a server within a virtual machine?
[19:49] <r00723r0> soundray, absolutely
[19:49] <Pc_Dark> I'm trying to install ubuntu server in a VM
[19:49] <soundray> r00723r0: okay, I'll need a few minutes to refine this
[19:49] <mindrape> BigGaz67 - that will show you the processes eating up the most resources on the box.. ;)  Type q to exit or CTRL C
[19:49] <wdavis> I am currently using XChat-Gnome and when someone sends me a file, it shows up under file transfers but doesn't actually start
[19:49] <r00723r0> soundray, that's cool, thanks a lot for helping btw
[19:49] <Pc_Dark> I'm running virtualbox, and starting ubuntu INSIDE the vm, so ubuntu server will end up being a VM
[19:49] <Pc_Dark> when I first tried to install, it gave some weird error
[19:50] <mindrape> BigGaz - you might also want to      ps aux | grep "defunct"    Those are processes that are "screwed up"
[19:50] <BigGaz67> cheers mindrape
[19:50] <PoMMiE`> why hasnt somebody put together a little app that automatically (within folder specific areas - ie: compile) where the apps autocompile on activation
[19:50] <arooni> how do i know if i'm using xgl?  i'm using gutsy and compiz-fusion
[19:50] <slimjimflim> how can i check a device in /dev w/ mounting it to see if it's alive?
[19:50] <mindrape> BigGaz67 - if you see a defunct process locate its PID (2nd column in ps aux) and send a sudo kill -15 [PID]
[19:50] <PoMMiE`> oh no.. that would be windoes
[19:50] <PoMMiE`> lmao
[19:50] <kantor> mindrape, yes you are right "was remerged in 2007" - wikipedia
[19:50] <bulmer> PoMMiE`-> howd one have to handle if they have missing libs?
[19:51] <slimjimflim> anybody?
[19:51] <mindrape> kantor - I am always right.  I am the almighty mindrape.
[19:51] <PoMMiE`> like all other os.   Could it possibly be a problem with a setting in XChat?
[19:52] <Kenny3> what are the adresses for universe, multiverse repositories?
[19:52] <SapoDriLo_> Hi. I get an error when xemacs starts: Cannot open load  file: cua-base. How get off the error?
[19:52] <aninhumer> Does anyone know how to get filtered video with "no xv" output mode?
[19:52] <darkdebian> tds - you can enhance ubuntu with other triks
[19:52] <Pelo> wdavis, could simply be that the receiver hasn,T accepted
[19:53] <PoMMiE`> not complaining. just a general query. why so ancient in design when it comes to compiling
[19:53] <niina01> I have a question about twinview, is it possible to have a fullscreen VIDEO on the secondary screen, as for now when i double click in VLC i get fullscreen on the main screen
[19:53] <wdavis> I have autoaccept on
[19:53] <tds> darkdebian, how?
[19:53] <darkdebian> tds - like noatime or data=writeback
[19:53] <robinsw> Hi guys. Any idea why all of a sudden my NTFS hard drive has locked itself as owned by 'root' and won't let me chown it to my own username?
[19:53] <robinsw> Every time I chown it to me, it changes back to root???
[19:53] <PoMMiE`> im guessing at the fact linux itself is still developing so it pays to make it code based in operation
[19:53] <Pc_Dark> is there a special way I should install Ubuntu?
[19:53] <tds> darkdebian, what's noatime?
[19:53] <mindrape> robinsw - check your /etc/fstab ?
[19:53] <PoMMiE`> pays for testin i guess
[19:53] <robinsw> Will do
[19:53] <robinsw> What should I look for, Mindrape?
[19:53] <niina01> I have a question about twinview, is it possible to have a fullscreen VIDEO on the secondary screen, as for now when i double click in VLC i get fullscreen on the main screen
[19:54] <mindrape> not sure how you are mounting it... tell me if you see it listed in there.
[19:54] <bullgard4> What is the default sound manager of Ubuntu?
[19:54] <mindrape> !samba | robinsw
[19:54] <ubot3> robinsw: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:54] <darkdebian> tds - say to your file system to no write time acces information when you read a file
[19:54] <jonasj> Kenny3: what do you mean by addresses? what do you want to do - enable those repositories on your system, or something else?
[19:54] <mindrape> robinsw - read that link from ubot3 about MountWindowsSharesPerm...
[19:54] <wdavis> Pelo - as in, I am receiving the file, it shows up in file transfers just doesn't receive anything.  I have tried this with two separate people
[19:54] <Pelo> PoMMiE`, compiling is the original linux way,  it allows you to install on any linux system regardless of config or architecture,  it works
[19:54] <tds> i was thinking of using a real-time kernel, will that mess up anything like gaming?
[19:54] <soundray> r00723r0: okay, here goes
[19:54] <niina01> I have a question about twinview, is it possible to have a fullscreen VIDEO on the secondary screen, as for now when i double click in VLC i get fullscreen on the main screen
[19:54] <robinsw> Will do, thanks a lot
[19:54] <Varka> bullgard4: esd?
[19:54] <Kenny3> jonasj: yes enable
[19:54] <BigGaz67> mindrape, there are no programs running at more than 6% cpu or 4% mem, the two most hungray programs appear to be xorg and compiz.real
[19:54] <darkdebian> tds - data=writeback enhance journal performace on reiserfs and ext3
[19:55] <tds> darkdebian, drawbacks of it?
[19:55] <bullgard4> Varka: I'll check that.
[19:55] <aninhumer> tds, just checking you know that real-time isn't about performance?
[19:55] <soundray> r00723r0: dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 >installed-list ; cat installed-list | xargs apt-cache depends | grep Depends | cut -d : -f 2 | sort >dependency-list ; cat installed-list dependency-list | sort | uniq -u
[19:55] <niina01> I have a question about twinview, is it possible to have a fullscreen VIDEO on the secondary screen, as for now when i double click in VLC i get fullscreen on the main screen
[19:55] <Pelo> wdavis, make sure it just isn't getting saved in ~/.xchat  or that you actualy have the bandwith to send,  it might just be extremely slow
[19:55] <tds> aninhumer, no, wasn't sure
[19:55] <PoMMiE`> ok.. not to be a funny bugger. but why didnt anybody just tell me to type 'man <command>' to get the help and direction rather then make me sprawl sites o.O..hmmm
[19:55] <r00723r0> soundray, wow
[19:55] <mindrape> BigGaz67 - well you can also    sudo apt-get install strace       Then from a commandline type   strace program-that-loads-forever.  That will launch the program and give you debugging info about what its doing "Behind the scenes"
[19:55] <ircd> can some one help me im making a irc server and it says to type ./makeconf and it says its not a valid directory
[19:55] <Pelo> wdavis, also #xchat might be a better place to ask
[19:55] <soundray> r00723r0: I'm sure there is a more elegant way to find the leaves of the dependency tree, but if someone here knew it, they would have said by now :)
[19:55] <r00723r0> someone should really fix up dpkg
[19:55] <tds> darkdebian, so where can i find that information. i may do it
[19:55] <mindrape> BigGaz67 - as an example if firefox takes a week to load        strace firefox..... it will give you lots of info in the command line as you work within firefox.
[19:55] <robinsw> mindrape... there's nothing in fstab for my external (USB) hard drives. Is this normal?
[19:56] <bosse> Im having problems with my ati 9000 mobility no direct rendering please help im getting mad here
[19:56] <wdavis> thanks, Pelo
[19:56] <soundray> r00723r0: how do you mean "fix up"?
[19:56] <ferronica> how to delete top pannel ?
[19:56] <mindrape> robinsw - could very well be.  ;)
[19:56] <niina01> I have a question about twinview, is it possible to have a fullscreen VIDEO on the secondary screen, as for now when i double click in VLC i get fullscreen on the main screen
[19:56] <darkdebian> tds - wait me a minute
[19:56] <PoMMiE`> so any guesses as to where the next steps for ubuntu are leading?
[19:56] <r00723r0> soundray, this should be built-in
[19:56] <Pelo> ferronica,  right click remove
[19:56] <Varka> bullgard4: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ESD
[19:56] <BigGaz67> ok mindrape will give that a go
[19:56] <mindrape> robinsw - check     mount     output
[19:56] <eZtaR> bosse: i suppose you checked the forums?
[19:56] <soundray> r00723r0: maybe it is. Have you read the manpage?
[19:56] <bosse> eZtaR, I have tryed that no luck yet
[19:56] <PoMMiE`> fight seems to be for best operational environment. ie virtual desktops and effex
[19:56] <r00723r0> soundray, reading right now
[19:56] <jonasj> Kenny3: open system->administration->software sources
[19:56] <tds> i can't find the low-latency kernel in the repos and checked google. anyone know how to exactly install it?
[19:56] <robinsw> mindrape: /dev/sdc1 on /media/WR_EXT_HD_2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[19:57] <aninhumer> tds, real-time is to do with predictability I think, anyway different kernels don't make THAT much difference compared to other performance tweaks
[19:57] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - I'm hoping to one day get a desktop environment like on the movie Minority Report...
[19:57] <soundray> r00723r0: are you trying to clone a system? Because there's a factoid...
[19:57] <soundray> !clone | r00723r0
[19:57] <ubot3> r00723r0: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[19:57] <PoMMiE`> you could do that through compiz
[19:57] <r00723r0> soundray, no
[19:57] <Kenny3> jonasj: yes i am there, then i clicked to add, and it asks for ATP-line
[19:57] <darkdebian> tds - data=writeback can decrese the security of your journal
[19:57] <Pelo> niina01, ask in #vlc there is probably an option you can use to fullscreen to screen 2
[19:57] <PoMMiE`> wierd shlte i done with mine
[19:57] <PoMMiE`> funky lookin
[19:57] <tds> aninhumer, i'm going to be hooking my guitar up to it also so i think i need it
[19:57] <Kenny3> jonasj: * APT
[19:57] <ferronica> Pelo: delete option is dim
[19:57] <PoMMiE`> reflected cursor on background
[19:57] <darkdebian> tds - and noatime can turn crazy your mailer daemos
[19:57] <PoMMiE`> icons wobble when curser over them
[19:57] <eZtaR> bosse: someone had the problem with the 9200 se here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199034&page=2
[19:57] <Lava> hello
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> all backgrounds semi transparant. slideshow wallpaper
[19:58] <eZtaR> bosse: and he seems to have fixed it
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> the lot
[19:58] <Elfboy> lol stop drinking and ubunuting :)
[19:58] <Lava> why doesnt azureus work in ubuntu?
[19:58] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - I want to be able to wear a "power glove" and move things around in the air while playing some overly dramatic classical music though...
[19:58] <robinsw> Mindrape, is there something I need to do to mount my USB hard drive properly? Mount gives:   /dev/sdc1 on /media/WR_EXT_HD_2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> with the gtegizmos too
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> it looks the biz
[19:58] <darkdebian> tds - but enhance all your performace and bootup speed
[19:58] <tds> darkdebian, not worried about noatime since i use no mail servers
[19:58] <Pelo> PoMMiE`,  this is the support channel you might be interested in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <soundray> r00723r0: things like this are worth asking in #debian as well
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> its ubuntu
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> what you want
[19:58] <r00723r0> soundray, does debian use apt?
[19:58] <eZtaR> Lava:  I've had that exact same problem, does yours quit to?
[19:58] <mindrape> robinsw - umount it then remount it with parameters you want... man mount
[19:58] <robinsw> Thanks Mindrape
[19:58] <Lava> yep
[19:58] <soundray> r00723r0: yes, ubuntu inherited it from there
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> the glove eh
[19:58] <r00723r0> ok
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> that never really took off did it
[19:58] <jonasj> Kenny3: are you pressing the add button under the thirdparty tab? don't do that. look under the Ubuntu Software tab.
[19:58] <PoMMiE`> been around since the 80s
[19:59] <eZtaR> weird Lava, did anyone write about it in the forum
[19:59] <PoMMiE`> i remember the old movies
[19:59] <aninhumer> tds, as I said, real-time kernels don't make your system perform any better
[19:59] <darkdebian> tds - add noatime in your /etc/fstab
[19:59] <ferronica> Pelo: delete option is dim
[19:59] <PoMMiE`> the new interface
[19:59] <PoMMiE`> rightio
[19:59] <Lava> 'file:///home/grijzemens/Desktop/LucindaNot a File0Williams-CarNot a File0WheelsNot a File0onNot a File0aNot a File0GravelNot a File0Road(Darkside_RG)Not a File0-%5Emininova.org%5E-.torrent' couldnt be opend
[19:59] <Pelo> ferronica, right click on an emplty area of the pannel
[19:59] <niina01> Pelo: How do i join #vlc
[19:59] <Lava> that sux  :(
[19:59] <PoMMiE`> ill try fit every single thought into one sentance
[19:59] <aninhumer> tds, you can install a kernel compiled for your processor
[19:59] <PoMMiE`> jus for you :D
[19:59] <ferronica> Pelo: I did
[19:59] <Pelo> niina01, type  /join #vlc
[19:59] <Kenny3> jonasj: ah, ok, its already activated, thanks
[19:59] <eZtaR> Lava:  mine just quit and said core dumped :P
[19:59] <soundray> Lava: what, you don't like Lucinda Williams?
[19:59] <ferronica> Pelo: option is available but dim
[19:59] <niina01> Pelo: is it on irc.freenode.net?
[19:59] <Pelo> ferronica,  are you sure your user has permission to play with this stuff, check in menu > admin > users
[20:00] <Lava> hell yeah i like it
[20:00] <Lava> its great but i cant down
[20:00] <Lava> :(
[20:00] <tds> aninhumer, apparently it is. it's generic which supposedly covers K7's
[20:00] <Skiessi> what? they've combined #ubuntu+1 to #ubuntu? Why?
[20:00] <mindrape> Skiessi - we have all agreed to "live in the now"?
[20:00] <soundray> Skiessi: because the new development tree isn't open yet
[20:00] <ferronica> Pelo: yes i am the user only
[20:00] <Lava> so, does anyone have a solution?
[20:00] <Pelo> niina01,  I expected there would be a vlc channel on this network, apparently there isn'T , check the vlc website for info on it
[20:00] <ferronica> Pelo: how to check
[20:00] <nez> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu 7.10 the encrypted way, but next to windows instead of erasing the entire disk?
[20:00] <Skiessi> o_o I'm using hardy repositories
[20:01] <eZtaR> Lava:  I haven't been able to find one :(
[20:01] <aninhumer> tds, yeah I think there's also a linux-image-k7 or something like that
[20:01] <Lava> :s
[20:01] <niina01> Pelo: thanks
[20:01] <Pelo> ferronica,  that means nothing , look in menu > system > admin > users  select your user and click edit or properties,  see what is checked
[20:01] <BigGaz67> mindrape, there bis a load of data here, but stace seems to hook up around these entries open("/usr/lib/firefox/init.d", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[20:01] <BigGaz67> open("/home/gaz/.mozilla/firefox/init.d", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[20:01] <BigGaz67> stat64("/usr/lib/firefox/init.d/S*", 0xbfc895cc) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[20:01] <BigGaz67> stat64("/home/gaz/.mozilla/firefox/init.d/S*", 0xbfc895cc) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[20:01] <BigGaz67> clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0xb7e626f8) = 7889
[20:01] <BigGaz67> wait4(-1,
[20:01] <tds> aninhumer, thanks, i'll look for it
[20:01] <jonasj> nez: use the alternate install cd
[20:01] <mindrape> nez - first of all in Windows you probably have 1 massive partition.  You need to non-destructively break off a few gigs for Linux (ie; Partition Magic and NOT fdisk)
[20:01] <Pelo> !pastebin | BigGaz67
[20:01] <ubot3> BigGaz67: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:01] <tds> darkdebian, so noatime's ok to use on ntfs?
[20:02] <darkdebian> tds - no
[20:02] <mindrape> !cryptfs
[20:02] <ubot3> Factoid cryptfs not found
[20:02] <mindrape> !encryption
[20:02] <ubot3> Factoid encryption not found
[20:02] <darkdebian> tds - use only with linux fs
[20:02] <Slart> Is there a way to get all the desktops in gutsy/compiz have their own little icon space and background.. so I can have different icons/files etc on each desktop I mean
[20:02] <BigGaz67> thx Pelo
[20:02] <Lava> azureus - solution - anyone?
[20:02] <tds> darkdebian, oh, ok. thanks. i'll try it
[20:02] <PoMMiE`> i beleive that you could get a old glove interface and most likely convert any gampad software to it easy enough. cus the finger expressions would enitiate the keypresses. and the movement of the glove could be reinitiated as the quad directional/ organic pad. change cursor to animate personal gestures. alter size and push opengl into cursor territory. then work the rest around the interface. like calc for a start. would ta
[20:02] <PoMMiE`> ke a year a reckon for a beta
[20:03] <darkdebian> tds - this enhance the general performace
[20:03] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - probably so... if you want to discuss further lets head over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:03] <PoMMiE`> you brought it up
[20:03] <darkdebian> tds - you can recompile your kernel if you need or like more performance
[20:03] <PoMMiE`> just feeding the thought
[20:03]  * PoMMiE` fiddles with terminal
[20:03] <mindrape> I wasn't expecting it to take over this channel.  ;)
[20:03] <PriceChild> darkdebian, please don't suggest that in this channel.
[20:03] <ferronica> Pelo: all checked
[20:03] <PriceChild> darkdebian, it is not needed.
[20:04] <tds> darkdebian, already tried and failed a while back. might do it again if i get time
[20:04] <PriceChild> darkdebian, it will create endless problems and can not be supported here.
[20:04] <PriceChild> tds, ^
[20:04] <Pelo> ferronica, that's all I have,  the delete option should be available,  I donT' know why it isn't
[20:04] <Pelo> ferronica,  try restarting  x or the comp , see if that clears it up
[20:04] <ferronica> Pelo: i am using kiba-dock is there an problem with it ?
[20:04] <mindrape> If you want to learn about Linux then by all means recompile your kernel.  If you want us to be able to help you then do NOT recompile.  ;)  Keep in mind a failed kernel compile means a non bootable system means you get to reinstall before we can reasonably help.
[20:05] <aninhumer> tds, your guitar recording should work okay without all these performance improvements anyway
[20:05] <tds> PriceChild, what problems have people had trying this?
[20:05] <Elfboy> i want to remove the updates to 7.10 cose its all bugy on my laptop
[20:05] <tape-deck> how do I get kubuntu to mount a usb drive so I can access it without sudoing?
[20:05] <darkdebian> PriceChild - ok, sorry
[20:05] <Pelo> ferronica,  no idea,  I 've never used it
[20:05] <PoMMiE`> ok so does ubuntu support usb 2.0?
[20:05] <mindrape> tds - if you screw up a kernel your devices wont work, your system will segfault/core dump left and right, you wont boot, etc...
[20:05] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - yes.
[20:05] <Flare183> pommie`:> yes
[20:05] <shamus> trying to install ubuntu and it gives me an error at 96% complaining about bootloader, any suggestions anyone?
[20:05] <PoMMiE`> plug n play usb 2.0? sorry
[20:06] <tds> mindrape, yes, i know. already happened. i thought he was speaking of not trying the noatime option in fstab
[20:06] <darkdebian> the problem is if you - tds - had a problem with my instructions, no all people can solve it
[20:06] <Elfboy> i shoujld have waited befor doing the updates now
[20:06] <aninhumer> PoMMiE`, you mean like usbdisks? of course
[20:06] <darkdebian> midrape - please, dont forgett my problem
[20:06] <eehouse> If from host0 I 'ssh -X host1' then run firefox from host1, it comes up with host0's environment, not host1's.  How to fix?
[20:06] <darkdebian> mindrape - please, dont forgett my problem
[20:06] <Lava> azureus - solution - anyone?
[20:06] <mindrape> darkdebian - I never did understand your problem.  ;)
[20:06] <tds> darkdebian, that would be no problem if the kernel failed. boot login has 3 different kernel options
[20:07] <PoMMiE`> dcp-117c printer - brother. usb logitech communicate stx. though the cam works on preview only. i bought it for the web... not just for the cam part
[20:07] <kantor> in the future Xgl would replace the xorg (X11) server ?
[20:07] <darkdebian> tds - :-)
[20:07] <mindframe> where can i get a list of installed packages so i can transfer that list for use on a new install?
[20:07] <PoMMiE`> heard something about a cups driver. but dont fully understand it. not sure if its a communication software for the printer before the driver or what. tried finding out too. no luck
[20:08] <Lava> eZtaR, http://azureus.sourceforge.net/howto_linux.php
[20:08] <darkdebian> tds - no the kernel, can fail the file system - fstab
[20:08] <mindrape> !clone | mindframe
[20:08] <ubot3> mindframe: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[20:08] <nez> About the encryption: Yes I used the alternate install cd but it if I'm correct (not sure if I am, I tried it a few days ago) it only allows you to encrypt if you erase the complete hd and let Ubuntu choose the size of all the partitions. Is there any way to keep my Windows Install or install it on some free space afterwards?
[20:08] <eZtaR> Lava:  Shouldn't it do that upon apt-get install?
[20:08] <aninhumer> tds, tbh the improvements from compiling over using an optimised kernel, or even over the basic one are marginal
[20:08] <PriceChild> tds, anythign could happen...
[20:08] <PriceChild> tds, its the kernel.... it controls everything
[20:08] <darkdebian> midrape - Are you busy?
[20:09] <zaboo> Somebody knows about a caller id app under ubuntu 7.10? thx
[20:09] <PoMMiE`> kind of funny how ID software can make games look better then the windows versions... and shows really how great games can be on linux. and how good opengl is over dx. yet. everything else other then the os itself is kinda bland. all that power and no drive
[20:09] <tds> aninhumer, it's what i heard so it's never really been a priority. mine runs fine but was just considering the low-latency kernel for audio
[20:09] <mindrape> darkdebian - finishing up lunch here and then going to the gym and then off to the store to get some stuff for the house.
[20:09] <darkdebian> midrape - Are you busy
[20:09] <darkdebian> midrape - ups, ok
[20:09] <mindrape> !repeat | darkdebian
[20:09] <ubot3> darkdebian: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:09] <[manas]> how can i change on ubuntu , windows booting first???!!!
[20:10] <bottiger> if I wish to make a desktop program which shall show some graphs (qt/gtk/whatever). is the solution then still to generate some images and show them, or is there an easier way? (the language is not so importent)
[20:10] <thingy> mindframe, if your intention was to conserve bandwidth, you simply need to backup and transfer the contents of the "/var/cache/apt/archives" folder which will hold all packages that were downloaded. It will not contain packages that were installed from the CD!
[20:10] <mindrape> !grub | [manas]
[20:10] <ubot3> [manas]: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:10] <darkdebian> midrape - ok
[20:10] <aninhumer> tds, I think audio should work fine anyway, wait until your sure you need the performance first :P
[20:10] <tds> anyone know how to turn off join/leaves in xchat? it's really annoying in a busy chat like this
[20:11] <PoMMiE`> yeah. i like grub on ubuntu and sayoban. there not seperate boot systems. its all in one integrated bliss. tried slackware for almost half year to no end. if werent for ubuntu. i wouldnt have bothered.
[20:11] <darkdebian> midrape - thanks but not have yet for 7.10
[20:11] <zaboo> does somebody know about a caler id app under ubuntu 7.10?
[20:11] <PoMMiE`> dun skype do that?
[20:11] <mindrape> zaboo - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=caller+id+linux&btnG=Google+Search
[20:12] <PoMMiE`> boogers need to work on the video. skype aint half as interesting without it
[20:12] <PoMMiE`> skype runs a caller id
[20:12] <MacDrunk> hello
[20:12] <zaboo> isn't ther some other simpler app
[20:12] <zaboo> for caller id
[20:13] <MacDrunk> i just donload the new wine
[20:13] <PoMMiE`> you can set contacts to numbers and numbers to pictures and ya know. be it landline or computer. skype the best i know nways
[20:13] <Tatster> Hi. Can anyone tell me if it's possible to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 remotely over an SSH connection, rather than having physical access to the box ?
[20:13] <MacDrunk> can some one tell me how to installed
[20:13] <PoMMiE`> i still reckon wine is a waste of time
[20:13] <zaboo> thx pommiÉ
[20:13] <MacDrunk> i just upack the file
[20:13] <PoMMiE`> only need it to install shockwave player/java or whatever it was on windows firefox
[20:13] <mindrape> Tatser - its possible... you'll need to make sure you dont time out so I would probably use screen first so you can reconnect to it later if necessary.
[20:13] <PoMMiE`> and even that plays up
[20:13] <darkdebian> somebody have or know about network-manager problems - nm-applet in gnome only say "Manual configuration..." and no show the status of the network(cable plugged-in or not) and pppoe - dial connections???
[20:13] <javaJake> Attention Linux keyboard/USB masters: there's a USB keyboard that uses (TM) in its name, and so Linux doesn't like it: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3616 - any ideas? Thanks in advance!
[20:13] <Slart> Tatster: apt-get will upgrade for you I think.. all console
[20:14] <mindrape> Tatser - during the upgrade you may need to interact and provide responses so if you time out it will just hang...
[20:14] <Slart> mindrape: doesn't apt-get fall back to some kind of ncurses dialog system if you for example shut down gdm before you run the upgrade?
[20:14] <javaJake> darkdebian, check System -> Administration -> Network - do your devices appear? Are they _disabled_? (This is important - nm will NOT manage any device configured elsewhere!)
[20:15] <Tatster> The box I'm hoping to upgrade is on the same LAN as I am now - it's just that box is my loft!!!
[20:15] <PoMMiE`> so nways.. asl peeps. wanna know how aged the linux ubuntu community i in
[20:15] <SliMM> hello, can anyone help me with compiz & window decorators a bit?
[20:15] <PoMMiE`> check out that grammer. give me a star
[20:15] <doubled> hi SliMM
[20:15] <Slart> Tatster: why not run vlc or something else quick and dirty to set up?
[20:15] <doubled> what seems to be the problem ?
[20:15] <Lava> eZtaR, http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com:80
[20:15] <Slart> Tatster: sorry.. vnc
[20:15] <PoMMiE`> <- 27.male.uk
[20:15] <darkdebian> javajake - all its ok, and /etc/netwok/interfaces are ok too
[20:15] <zapata> Say you have 2 harddrives, how should one partition them and into how many partitions should one make them for a fresh OS install according to you?
[20:15] <javaJake> darkdebian, OK, how about ifconfig and iwconfig?
[20:15] <puli> hi guys can any one tell me if it is possible to install g tok or yahoo m on ubuntu
[20:16] <Elfboy> PoMMiE`, :and we care why im 12
[20:16] <SliMM> DoubleD: well, how can i use metacity instead of emerald?
[20:16] <Tatster> Slart: That's a good shout.  Up till now I've just had Webmin on there
[20:16] <darkdebian> javajake - no problems, the interface is up
[20:16] <DoubleD> i dont know either of those :o
[20:16] <DoubleD> are those themes ?
[20:16] <PoMMiE`> oh peeps. you know kopete. is it best to use msn or yahoo or what if your doing webcaming...???
[20:16] <javaJake> darkdebian, ah, OK, and nm shows a "no connection" icon?
[20:16] <MacDrunk> anyone
[20:16] <aninhumer> PoMMiE`, I'm 16 but I'm not telling you where I live :P
[20:16] <puli> hi guys can any one tell me if it is possible to install g tok or yahoo m on ubuntu
[20:16] <PoMMiE`> cus that main reason i left my laptop with windows
[20:16] <PoMMiE`> pmsl.. stfu
[20:16] <PoMMiE`> shlt
[20:16] <MacDrunk> how to install from a tar file
[20:16] <PoMMiE`> anybody here older then 20
[20:17] <PoMMiE`> feeling older then time here
[20:17] <SliMM> DoubleD: those are window decorators. i think emerald is comiz's gnome decorator and metacity is the native window decorator
[20:17] <Slart> Tatster: I think there's a package that just shares your current desktop using vnc.. nothing to setup apart from perhaps a password.. xvncclient or something like that
[20:17] <Lava> 25  :)
[20:17] <Elfboy> fear me
[20:17] <PoMMiE`> k lava
[20:17] <zapata> Anyone? How do you guys partion your drives when you do a fresh install?
[20:17] <darkdebian> javajake - no, say connected, but when un-plug the network cable, say its plugged-in
[20:17] <PoMMiE`> sitting with you ole boy/gal
[20:17] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - age is not of importance here... we are here to talk about Linux.  A 13 yr old could have just as much knowledge as a 52 yr old as far as I've seen...
[20:17] <mikegiar> hi everyone
[20:17] <Lava> haha, quarter of a century
[20:17] <DoubleD> i see. well im just using the preinstalled gui. and set it to advanced mode
[20:17] <Elfboy> heheh im 12
[20:17] <Lava> really old for this room i suppose
[20:17] <javaJake> darkdebian, that would be a driver issue, then
[20:17] <Elfboy> i knwo more then you do :)
[20:17] <DoubleD> got all the eyecandy now. but i might change the theme
[20:17] <Flare183> !gutsy
[20:17] <mindrape> Elfboy - than*
[20:17] <ubot3> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[20:17] <ConstyXIV> has anyoen done any gaming (both native and wine) with a GMA 950 on ubuntu?
[20:18] <PoMMiE`> yeah prob does. but ya know. dun wanna be blaspheming in that kinda room
[20:18] <Flare183> thank you
[20:18] <darkdebian> javajake - and cant switch betwhen wired and unwired
[20:18] <mikegiar> I'm using a 6.06 live cd. Is it safe to remove the live cd after booting up with it
[20:18] <Slart> !info x11vnc | tatster
[20:18] <ubot3> tatster: x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-2 (gutsy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1168 kB
[20:18] <Lava> ive had more sex than you Elfboy ;)
[20:18] <Iradigalesc> Hello! Is it possible to programe a task to do every day at 0:00 o'clock? I heard about cron, but I don't know how to use it...
[20:18] <Elfboy> ewwwwwwwwwwww
[20:18]  * PoMMiE` adjusts his halo. I DUN SWEAR I SWEAR I DONT
[20:18] <javaJake> darkdebian, correct, nm favors wired, therefore it will always used wired when that appears connected
[20:18] <Lava> hehe
[20:18] <aninhumer> mindrape, I think he was just asking out of interest, that or he's a paedophile :P
[20:18] <_sinister> .
[20:18] <Tatster> Slart: cool
[20:18] <darkdebian> javajake - can be, but, in feisty no have this problem
[20:18] <Slart> Iradigalesc: cron is very easy.. check "man crontab"
[20:18] <mindrape> This isn't a teen chat channel... no need for a/s/l inquiries...
[20:18] <tds> anyone using xchat and bugged by the joining/leaving messages?
[20:18] <javaJake> darkdebian, the next step would be to figure out what driver your wired card is using, if there are any problems, and if you can't figure anything out, contact the NetworkManager mailing list.
[20:19] <Elfboy> X-chat rules
[20:19] <googlah> yep
[20:19] <javaJake> Elfboy, +1
[20:19] <SliMM> DoubleD: well, i want to use metacity for theming AND window decorations, because i belive it uses less resources
[20:19] <Elfboy> u can change them too
[20:19] <PoMMiE`> im starting to think my sexlife is gunna take a hit from sitting here and spending all this extra time TYPING BLOOMIN COMMANDS INTO TERMINAL
[20:19] <googlah> compiz rules
[20:19] <Slart> Iradigalesc: or rather.. it's very easy to setup a terminal based command.. if you want to run say.. openoffice or something graphical it's much harder
[20:19] <Elfboy> javaJake, ?????
[20:19] <PoMMiE`> but hey. im old. time aint important :(
[20:19] <mindrape> !offtopic
[20:19] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:19] <javaJake> Elfboy, one vote
[20:19] <Iradigalesc> Slart: No, I want to run a python script
[20:19] <Lava> can some1 tell me what type of file i have to choose? http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com:80
[20:19] <Lava> thx
[20:19] <darkdebian> javajake - ok, thans! but I can use the wired card
[20:19] <tds> i just found out how to hide joining/leaving messages. Just type "/set irc_conf_mode 1"
[20:19] <winbond> does the gnutella network still exist??  because the kmldonkey doesnt connect to any servers
[20:19] <Slart> PoMMiE`: but think of the money you can spend on fancy cars, expensive booze etc instead of buying expensive os's.. =)
[20:20] <DoubleD> SliMM, i c.. hmm you could try the "add and remove programs" thing and see if you can find it in there
[20:20] <ryanakca> why is it that LVM volumes in /dev/mapper don't show up in /dev/hostname ?
[20:20] <PoMMiE`> whats the next ubuntu gunna be called .... ubun2
[20:20] <javaJake> darkdebian, I don't have the time to help you through that, at the moment. Sorry. :(
[20:20] <darkdebian> javajake - but nm dont say anything
[20:20] <Elfboy> vote for ?
[20:20] <Slart> Iradigalesc: then it should be ok.. just check the man page for crontab...
[20:20]  * PoMMiE` grabs a beer
[20:20] <Elfboy> <--hotest boy in town
[20:20] <aninhumer> PoMMiE`, Hardy Heron, if you wanted to know
[20:20] <Lava> can some1 tell me what type of file i have to choose? http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com:80
[20:20] <darkdebian> javajake - ok, thanks elsewere
[20:20] <Lava> thx
[20:20] <zaboo> #what are or where can i find a list of oder ubuntu releated channels like this one (for example gaming issues ) i'm using pidgin and i don't know how to get a list
[20:20] <mikegiar> I might have read that once you are up and running with the live cd everything is copied into temp memoray and you can remove the disk. anyone know if this is true?
[20:20] <SliMM> beryl had a nice settings manager that let me switch between window managers and/or decorators
[20:21] <PoMMiE`> see lava... i bypassed all that through wine
[20:21] <bullgard4> Varka: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ESD shows a 'Server Error'.
[20:21] <mindrape> Lava - get the 2nd one.
[20:21] <mindrape> Lava - or just apt-get install it...
[20:21] <aninhumer> mikegiar, I think there was an option to run from memory, but only if you have a lot
[20:21] <Lava> ok mindrape, if you can tell me how?
[20:21] <PoMMiE`> wtf is emule
[20:21] <mindrape> If you have questions about Compiz head over to #compiz-fusion
[20:21] <PoMMiE`> got a stuffed donkey on my desktop
[20:21] <puli> hi guys can any one tell me if it is possible to install g tok or yahoo m on ubuntu
[20:22] <aninhumer> mikegiar, at least 1GB
[20:22] <Slart> PoMMiE`: emule is a p2p app.. file sharing
[20:22] <PoMMiE`> aint that a bit illegal?
[20:22] <mindrape> sudo apt-get install java-common would be a start...
[20:22] <mikegiar> aninhumer: and I would have had to choose that option when booting right?
[20:22] <PoMMiE`> cute donkey though
[20:22] <Slart> PoMMiE`: eh.. bittorrents are used for tHe WareZ and still the protocol is perfectly legal
[20:22] <mindrape> filesharing is not inherently illegal.
[20:22] <PoMMiE`> what are these warez
[20:23] <TwoD> Hey all! I'm trying to enable XDMCP from the command line (setting up vnc server via shh) but /etc/gdm.conf is empty :(
[20:23] <aninhumer> mikegiar, ayup, it might not be available on regular ubuntu disks either, but I've seen it before
[20:23] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - time for you to head over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:23] <Lava> thanks mindrape
[20:23] <Pelo> !seen bruenig
[20:23] <Haexlin> is the forcedeth driver supposed to work on all nvidia nics ?
[20:23] <ubot3> Factoid seen bruenig not found
[20:23] <pga> Pelo, bruenig<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen quiting on ##linux 16 hours 10 minutes ago stating: ("Leaving")
[20:23] <lawke> !xgl
[20:23] <ubot3> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:23] <PoMMiE`> shockin. im asking stuff related around this operating system and im somehow offtopic
[20:23] <Lava> can i do the same for azureus, as in sudo apt-get install azureus?
[20:23] <Elfboy> ubuntu need to use portage
[20:23] <atlantis> anyone know a program to make icons in gnome
[20:23] <PoMMiE`> right
[20:23] <MacDrunk> need help here on how to install from a .tar file
[20:23] <joshritger> how can i make a shortcut to a playlist so it opens up in vlc, i want this shortcut in my panel
[20:23] <Slart> PoMMiE`: same thing with emule.. if you live in a country where sharing downloading certain files is illegal then yes.. emule can be used for illegal stuff.. so can a CD burner.. ethernet etc etc
[20:23] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - you are asking about warez... hardly on topic.
[20:23] <zaboo> atlantis use gimp
[20:23] <PoMMiE`> emule came with ubuntu
[20:23] <Haexlin> atlantis : try gimp ?
[20:24] <Lava> mindrape, can i do the same for azureus, as in sudo apt-get install azureus?
[20:24]  * PoMMiE` points
[20:24] <mindrape> Lava - I would surely hope so.  :)
[20:24] <mikegiar> aninhumer: thanks for the help
[20:24] <atlantis> have thought maybe another app may be more suited for it.
[20:24] <Dr_willis> !find azureus
[20:24] <ubot3> Found: azureus, azureus-gcj
[20:24] <PoMMiE`> k ill save the whole 'my ubuntu got apps thing'
[20:24] <Iradigalesc> Slart: Is 0 0 * * * /home/iradigalesc/pywikipedia/depth.py a good syntax?
[20:24] <zaboo> use the png format for icon (whit gimp)
[20:24] <Haexlin> atlantis whats wrong with gimp ?
[20:24] <lawke> whats the xgl package name?
[20:24] <Slart> PoMMiE`: you *can* install emule.. I don't think it's included in the default isntall.. or it wasn't when I installed
[20:24] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - Linux also comes with gimp, a web browser, and video software.  IM NOT ASKING ABOUT PORN IN HERE THOUGH.
[20:24] <aninhumer> PoMMiE`, emule is available in repos, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with ubuntu
[20:24] <puli> hi guys can any one tell me if it is possible to install g tok or yahoo m on ubuntu
[20:24] <TwoD> anyone who knows how to enable XDMCP via command line?
[20:24] <PoMMiE`> who asked about porn
[20:24] <atlantis> nothing, just thought there would be an app that is better for icons
[20:25] <mindrape> PoMMiE` - in any event you are on my list of people to no longer help and I would recommend others do the same with you.... /ignore'd
[20:25] <c0Ld> If I install kubuntu-desktop it won't screw with any of my gnome application settings will it? Specifically if I decide to remove it later on?
[20:25] <Slart> Iradigalesc: run the script every hour at 0 minutes? looks ok to me
[20:25] <Iradigalesc> Slart: ok; thanks :)
[20:25] <PoMMiE`> thats why i do asl. im babysitting
[20:25] <Dr_willis> c0Ld,  no it will not
[20:25] <lawke> whats the xgl package name?
[20:25] <mindrape> PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT - PoMMiE` is a troll.  Please ignore.
[20:25] <PoMMiE`> lmao
[20:25] <zaboo> atlantis useinkscape
[20:25] <Elfboy> lol
[20:25] <zaboo> its easier
[20:25] <atlantis> got it haven't tried to use it yet, looked complicated....
[20:25] <Elfboy> troll are ulgy
[20:25] <Dr_willis> c0Ld,  having compiz going in gnome and kde both.  will share settings I belive however for compiz
[20:25] <aninhumer> PoMMiE`, I think mindrape's point is that your questions about emule/warez etc. aren't really anything to do with ubuntu
[20:26] <MacDrunk> blah
[20:26] <PoMMiE`> its running on ubuntu. heard about 15 lines to do with wine
[20:26] <MelanomaSky> 've just installed Xubuntu -- the font size for the "Applications", and the icon titles on the desktop is absurdly too large.  Anyone know how I can fix that?  I think the dpi is messed up..
[20:26] <PoMMiE`> based around windows
[20:26] <c0Ld> Dr_willis: Well, that's a good thing! I'm just worried about whether or not removing it (or, heck, if I decide to use it instead of gnome, removing gnome) will mess with any applications' settings or whatever.
[20:26] <Lava> its working mindrape, many thanks, have a good evening, bye
[20:26] <PoMMiE`> or that jus... nvm o.O
[20:26] <jjholly> ubuntu live cd wont let me open my laptops HD.  error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[20:26] <lawke> hi, whats the xgl package name?
[20:26] <jjholly> error: could not execute pmount
[20:26] <Dr_willis> c0Ld,  why bothjer removeing it. I always keep them both installed. so the users can use what gnome apps they like or kde apps..
[20:27] <Slart> lawke: did you do a search using say.. apt-cache search xgl?
[20:27] <Iradigalesc> Slart: If I'm not logged in with my username (but the computer is opened), will crontab work?
[20:27] <aninhumer> PoMMiE`, hang on you could just install amule, same program but for linux
[20:27] <TwoD> Sorry for smamming the same message but it's urgent. Anyone who knows how to enable XDMCP via command line?
[20:27] <Slart> lawke: I *think* it's something along the lines of xserver-xlg.. not sure though
[20:27] <aninhumer> *xgl
[20:27] <Slart> Iradigalesc: I think so.. I think it uses your account to run the command line..
[20:27] <kurisutofuaa> Anyone have any problems with Installing wine-doors on 7.10?
[20:27] <ipx> My new Ubuntu Server 7.10 install wont recognize my ethernet-card (3com 3c905B): Theres no card in ifconfig. How do i set it up? I think its in the kernel so i dont have to install the drivers manually?
[20:28] <mates> hello... can anyone help me with my problems with fx 5600 ? On linux all games are runnig very slowly
[20:28]  * PoMMiE` changes topic : UBUNTU SPECIFICS AS SO DEEMED
[20:28] <PoMMiE`> nah
[20:28] <mindrape> ipx - lspci  see if it shows up there or dmesg
[20:28] <PoMMiE`> i dun do torrents
[20:28] <Iradigalesc> Slart: ok
[20:28] <jjholly> ubuntu live cd wont let me open my laptops HD.  error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable   error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[20:28] <jjholly> error: could not execute pmount
[20:28] <mates> i have ubuntu 7.10
[20:28] <PoMMiE`> jus asking what it was.. then said warez... wondered.. got bished at..lmao
[20:28] <ipx> mindrape: yep its in lspci
[20:29] <Slart> Iradigalesc: can't you just create a small test script that just runs "date >> /home/Iradigalesc" every 5 minutes and try logging off for 15 minutes and go get some coffee =)
[20:29] <mindrape> ipx - lsmod  if its not listed in there as having a driver loaded you need to modprobe <correct driver name>
[20:29] <mindrape> ipx - to find the "right" driver I recommend you google.
[20:29] <Random832> anyone know why, since upgrading, some apps (all gtk so far - pidgin, thunderbird, gconf-editor) fail to respond immediately to keyboard input, while the gui is otherwise responsive?
[20:29] <Slart> Iradigalesc: ooops.. sorry.. "date >> /home/iradigalesc/test.txt"
[20:29] <Iradigalesc> Slart: It's just what I wa thinking to do ;)
[20:29] <jjholly> ubuntu live cd wont let me open my laptops HD.  error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[20:29] <jjholly>  error: could not execute pmount
[20:29] <Random832> ruled out the window manager as a cause, it happens in both metacity and compiz
[20:29] <aninhumer> PoMMiE`, emule/amule is a p2p file sharing application for more information I suggest you google it
[20:29] <TwoD> mate, I don't have time to help you through each step, but have you looked up info about the propretiary (sp?) nVidia drivers?
[20:30] <mindrape> aninhumer - he's a troll... quit wasting your time.  ;)
[20:30] <TwoD> Anyone who knows how to enable XDMCP via command line?
[20:30] <jonecamp> Sunbird does not load any more. It initially worked well, but then crashed and has been freezing when it loads ever since. This seemed like it may have been a profile thing, so I tried removing it, but it still froze. This issue still occurs after a complete removal, an installation of 0.7, using metacity or compiz, and using different video drivers. Here is the part that gets me; it works when I run it remotely with ssh and X. I
[20:30] <Slart> Iradigalesc: bah.. I'll be asking *you* questions in a couple of days at this rate =)
[20:30] <mindrape> TwoD - http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[20:30] <mates> I've installed nvidia drivers for fx for 32 bit linux from nvidia.com
[20:30] <[manas]> how to make on grub windows boot by defaulst??????
[20:30] <TwoD> service Xvnc
[20:30] <TwoD> { type = UNLISTED
[20:30] <TwoD>         disable = no
[20:30] <TwoD>         socket_type = stream
[20:30] <TwoD>         protocol = tcp
[20:30] <PoMMiE`> jus removed it. so no worries. ta for info though. think everyone in this room be lost without google though :O
[20:30] <TwoD>         wait = yes
[20:30] <TwoD>         user = root
[20:30] <epax> How do i install ATI drivers in Kubuntu?
[20:30] <Slart> jjholly: never seen that error.. have you tried googling for it?
[20:31] <jjholly> nope ill try
[20:31] <Random832> !pastebin>TwoD
[20:31] <mindrape> [manas] - /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:31] <Slart> [manas]: do you have a windows boot option setup in grub?
[20:31] <chazco> Hi... i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now certain websites wont load in Firefox. Any ideas? (It works on a different PC on the same network)
[20:31] <chazco> Most pages work fine, its just a few (mainly on the uni network)
[20:31] <aninhumer> mindrape, he may be obnoxious and tactless, but I don't think he's actually a troll, but then I may just be being naive
[20:31] <MacDrunk> has anyone here had install wine 0.9.48
[20:31] <[manas]> Slart: yes
[20:31] <Slart> [manas]: if you have that I think it's simply setting some kind of default flag or something.. check /boot/grub/menu.lst.. it's pretty well commented
[20:31] <hmuller> Anyone know how I can get all mail to go to "On this computer" in evolution, instead of the user account you have to create?
[20:31] <MacDrunk> need the info on how to install wine from a file
[20:32] <Random832> where's the bot?
[20:32] <[manas]> Slart: ok one sec
[20:32] <aninhumer> !pastebin | TwoD
[20:32] <ubot3> TwoD: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:32] <PoMMiE`> <---dun eat goats or live under a bridge.. well not yet nways
[20:32] <Slart> MacDrunk: install wine from a file? a deb file or a tar-file?
[20:32] <mates> TwoD-can you help me?
[20:33] <riddlebox> can anyone install exim4 through apt-get? I get an error everytime I try?
[20:33] <MacDrunk> Slart: a tar file
[20:33] <aninhumer> Random832, it's | not >
[20:33] <Flannel> riddlebox: Which error?
[20:33] <Slart> MacDrunk: any special reason you want to compile it yourself?
[20:33] <Keketin> any ideas how would i get this Ati Radeon 7500Le work under Ubuntu 7.10
[20:33] <Keketin> Or i mean which drivers would have support for this
[20:33] <chazco> anyone?
[20:33] <riddlebox> Flannel, http://pastebin.ca/752912
[20:33] <PoMMiE`> compiling... aka... plan B
[20:34] <mindrape> chazco - does Firefox just crash?
[20:34] <mindrape> chazco - what do you mean it wont work?
[20:34] <MacDrunk> Slart: i think you don understant me i dll the newest version of wine 0.9.48 from a tar file need to know how to install
[20:34] <chazco> Nope, it sort of hangs showing the "Loading" message... part of the page sometimes arrives
[20:34] <krammer> How can I add another drive with gpart?
[20:34] <mates> can anyone help me with slow framerate in all games under ubuntu 7,10... i have fx 5600 and drivers from nvidia.com..
[20:34] <chazco> miderape: Nope, it sort of hangs showing the "Loading" message... part of the page sometimes arrives
[20:34] <PoMMiE`> depends on the games you pleaying
[20:34] <PoMMiE`> got to do alot of configuring in linux
[20:34] <PoMMiE`> pita
[20:34] <mindrape> chazco - when I upgraded I had to erase my .mozilla folder... (forgot my bookmarks btw) but once I did that and restarted it worked like a champ... maybe make a backup and give it a shot?
[20:34] <Slart> MacDrunk: I understand you.. tar-files are usually source code which you have to compile to install it... it can be tricky
[20:34] <Evanlec> MacDrunk, check the readme file in the directory you extracted
[20:34] <mates> Pommie-can you help me with config?
[20:35] <biertschusch> Sieg Heil my dear friends
[20:35] <Slart> MacDrunk: aren't there .deb files available too? those are much easier to install
[20:35] <Evanlec> MacDrunk, or the install notes
[20:35] <aninhumer> krammer, gparted should show all available drives, you shouldn't need to add them
[20:35] <mindrape> chazco - for me it was hanging and crashing randomly...
[20:35] <chazco> mindrape: Tried a clean install of Ubuntu _and_ tried a different browser (ephinay)... no luck
[20:35] <Flannel> !ops
[20:35] <ubot3> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[20:35] <ziyax> oh jeez
[20:35] <MacDrunk> Slart: ok ill do that
[20:35] <Dr_willis> wow porn spams
[20:35] <MacDrunk> Evanlec: i dont know
[20:35] <ipx> mindrape: how do i know that the ethernet-driver is working and that i can use the card?
[20:35] <ziyax> porn for geeks
[20:35] <clever> must resist opening virus
[20:35] <clever> must resist
[20:35] <zynergi> ..must...resist...
[20:35] <PriceChild> I didn't see you op LjL :)
[20:35] <zynergi> aarrruuuughhh!
[20:35] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[20:35] <Nilisco> those sure are some strange ubuntu tips
[20:35] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:36] <mindrape> ipx - once you modprobe and if it successfully loads (lsmod can confirm) it should show up in ifconfig
[20:36] <virtuoussin13> I don't suppose anyone can help me with packages (and configure scripts) constantly complaining that I don't have libc6 when I've reinstalled several times?
[20:36] <[manas]> Slart: i cannt understand what to do
[20:36] <Evanlec> MacDrunk, do tar -xzvf wine.tar.gz
[20:36] <ipx> mindrape: ok :)
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[20:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[20:36] <ziyax> hahaha
[20:36] <Evanlec> lol
[20:36] <ikonia> thanks
[20:36] <Dr_willis> wow - is kiddygarden out early today?
[20:36] <MacDrunk> Evanlec: in a terminal window?
[20:36] <Evanlec> ya
[20:36] <IndyGunFreak> you'd think these guys have nothing better to do.
[20:36] <Slart> [manas]: hold on.. I'll check my grub config files.. see if I can find it.. I've also got windows installed next to ubuntu
[20:36] <clever> Dr_willis: seems like it
[20:36]  * mindrape thinks anybody that laughed at that should get the boot as well...
[20:36] <JimmyDee> someone left the gate open at the loony bin?
[20:36] <Evanlec> replace wine.tar.gz with the actual tar file name
[20:36] <krammer> ani_ i want to add another os and the new is greyed out do I have to resize my biggest drive?
[20:37]  * IndyGunFreak finds channel flooding moderately amusing..
[20:37] <aninhumer> krammer, the installer can resize your biggest partition for you
[20:37] <[manas]> Slart: i find i file, but stupid me dont understand how to do it
[20:37]  * PriceChild finds IndyGunFreak and mindrape offtopic
[20:37] <mates> Can anyone help me with configuring ubuntu 7.10 to play games as in win? in wow I had 20-30 fps(under win) and now its very very slow..
[20:37] <riddlebox> Flannel, did you get a chance to read that pastebin?
[20:37] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[20:37] <krammer> ok
[20:37] <krammer> t
[20:37] <krammer> y
[20:37] <virtuoussin13> I don't suppose anyone can help me with packages (and configure scripts) constantly complaining that I don't have libc6 when I've reinstalled several times?
[20:38] <Slart> [manas]: no worries.. being new at something != stupid.. =)
[20:38] <IndyGunFreak> mates: what are you trying to compile?
[20:38] <LjL> virtuoussin13: *packages*, as in Ubuntu .deb packages, complain about missing libc6?
[20:38] <mindrape> PriceChild - by all means kick me then and make an example.  But I think you should scroll up and SERIOUSLY consider /kb PoMMiE` and a few others that I have been telling are offtopic for the past hour.
[20:38] <[manas]> Slart: :)
[20:38] <Flannel> riddlebox: Yeah, I have no idea, sorry.  Looks like the config files are wrong.  See if there's a bug about it in LP
[20:38] <PriceChild> mindrape, we don't need this discussion :) *hugs*
[20:38] <virtuoussin13> LjL: yeah, and configure scripts I've run
[20:38] <caris_mere> I can't sync my palm using Gutsy, has anybody had this problem or know of a solution....with Feisty I had to start the visor module.
[20:38] <Slart> [manas]: ok.. in my menu.lst it says at line 14, "default		0"
[20:39] <riddlebox> Flannel, ok I will check around
[20:39] <[manas]> Slart: 1 sec
[20:39] <IndyGunFreak> wow, that was kinda foolish.
[20:39] <Kagar> Can I install 7.10 via terminal, or do I have to download the ISO and burn to a CD and reinstall it?
[20:39] <Slart> [manas]: so open your menu.lst (gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst) and see if you find your line
[20:39] <virtuoussin13> Kagar: are you on a ubuntu distro now?
[20:39] <mates> IndyGuyFreaks: I am trying to configure ubuntu 7.10 to play wordl of warcraft... i have fx 5600 and original drivers for linux.. but  i have slow  framerate(not only in wow-in all games)
[20:39] <Kagar> yeah, I have 7.04
[20:40] <[manas]> Slart: i got it
[20:40] <virtuoussin13> Kagar: open up your update manager, and you should see "a new distribution is available"
[20:40] <Kagar> mm
[20:40] <virtuoussin13> click update and let the download roll
[20:40] <ompaul> !nickspam > arashOio
[20:40] <ipx> How can I see my kernel version?
[20:40] <ompaul> ipx uname -a
[20:40] <Slart> [manas]: ok.. then you just have to remember how many selections you had when you booted and change that 0 to something appropriate
[20:40] <Kagar> virtuoussin13 - oo shiny feature, I hadn't seen before.
[20:41] <Kagar> virtuoussin13 - danke
[20:41] <arashOio> ompaul: no only i rename my nick from away
[20:41] <Kagar> virtuoussin13 - I knew of the update manager, just not the upgrade portion
[20:41] <ompaul> arashOio, do it silently - /away reason not change nick
[20:41] <virtuoussin13> Kagar: its easy to miss
[20:41] <virtuoussin13> so anyone got an answer to my libc6 problem?
[20:42] <arashOio> ompaul: by this? /away away
[20:42] <ompaul> arashOio, that will do
[20:42] <aninhumer> When did they add the distribution upgrader to update-manager? It can't have been in dapper
[20:42] <[manas]> Slart:  ok i got Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic,Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode),Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic,Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (recovery mode),Ubuntu, memtest86+,,Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[20:42] <Frodo> virtuossin: what libc6 problem?
[20:43] <aninhumer> That said, I'm always updating around herd5 time anyway :P
[20:43] <[manas]> Slart: 6?
[20:43] <virtuoussin13> packages and configure scripts complain I don't have it when I do (and yes, I do have the -dev) packages
[20:43] <Slart> [manas]: sounds like you should put a 5 there if you want windows to be default.. remember, it starts counting from 0
[20:43] <zhangcheng> eva 帐号哪有
[20:43] <beeblequix> need advice using latest Wine to install Guild Wars -- can't eject cd#1
[20:43] <[manas]> Slart: aaa
[20:43] <ompaul> !cn | zhangcheng
[20:43] <ubot3> zhangcheng: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[20:43] <Frodo> virtuoussin: try removing the packages, and re-installing them
[20:43] <Ange|us> hello
[20:43] <zhangcheng> 谁能告诉我阿
[20:43] <Ange|us> does somebody know how i can compile the vesafb module without compiling a whole custom kernel ?
[20:44] <zhangcheng>     用什么聊天软件比较好
[20:44] <virtuoussin13> Frodo: I've tried reinstalling them, would completely removing them first make that big a difference?
[20:44] <zhangcheng> msn?
[20:44] <triana> salve
[20:44] <ompaul> no
[20:44] <Slart> I just love that ubuntu is international so I see those chinese/japanese/korean/? signs =)
[20:44] <ompaul> !jp
[20:44] <ubot3> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[20:44] <aninhumer> How come the #de message is in german, but the #cn message is still in english?
[20:44] <triana> ci sono italiani?
[20:44] <sycho> I just installed compiz and beryl. I see compiz uses the super (windows key), but I don't have a windows key on this keyboard. its an old keyboard. WHat would the super key be set to then?
[20:44] <mindframe> does the normal ubuntu installer have the ability to install w/ XFS ?
[20:44] <ompaul> !it | triana
[20:44] <ubot3> triana: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:44] <Stolencheese> Sycho, Just re-set the super key to another key.
[20:45] <riddlebox> Flannel, LP is having problems now lol
[20:45] <Frodo> virtuoussin: yes, if you remove them, and then install them
[20:45] <Frodo> it could clean out the problem
[20:45]  * ompaul waves at BenC from far far away
[20:45] <entilzha> Hi guys: I got a problem while upgrading to Gutsy.  When I tried re-installing them using apt-get it says: Errors were encountered while processing: python-setuptools. Any ideas?
[20:45] <euqen> hi everybody
[20:45] <sycho> Stolencheese, Where would I do that? i didn't see it under the System -> prefrences -> keyboards... or did i just miss it?
[20:45] <Ange|us> does somebody know how i can compile the vesafb module without compiling a whole custom kernel ?
[20:45]  * BenC waves back
[20:45] <Stolencheese> Sycho: No idea,
[20:45] <ompaul> !hi | euqen
[20:45] <ubot3> euqen: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:45] <virtuoussin13> Frodo: that also requires removing (what looks to be) almost every other package on my system
[20:46] <Stolencheese> Sycho: I only got Ubuntu two days ago, Someone on here must know though! :)
[20:46] <Frodo> oh.....
[20:46] <aninhumer> lol, a bot script to say hi :P
[20:46] <jannen> any chance some here know how to get sync with a palm t3 work?
[20:46] <beeblequix> Does anyone here use WINE?
[20:46] <Frodo> i drink WINE
[20:46] <kkathman> i just plugged an external usb hard drive into my ubuntu install and it doesnt seem to be bringing up anything - is there something I can do ?
[20:46] <beeblequix> :)
[20:46] <Slart> beeblequix: every now and then.. yes
[20:46] <IndyGunFreak> beeblequix: lol, probably a lot of us use it for something
[20:47] <ihope> beeblequix: many of us use Wine, but it seems #winehq would be a better place to ask about it.
[20:47] <naelyn> could someone help me with the lcdfilter=legacy font issue?
[20:47] <Stolencheese> I tryed using WINE to play WoW, Then I tryed Cogeda and Cogeda doesn't run full stop and Wine runs crap, heh.
[20:47] <aninhumer> beeblequix, I use it, but I probably can't answer your questions :P
[20:47] <beeblequix> winehq. k.
[20:47] <euqen> enybody speak estonian
[20:47] <virtuoussin13> kkathman: open up your partition editor, check to make sure its detected
[20:47] <beeblequix> well, with multiple cd games i can't eject the first disk
[20:47] <euqen> anybody
[20:47] <ihope> Estonian, eh?
[20:47] <[manas]> Slart: thanks a lot!! i will try it know
[20:47] <ihope> !ee
[20:47] <ubot3> ee: An "easy editor" for novices and compuphobics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.2-7 (gutsy), package size 50 kB, installed size 160 kB
[20:47] <entilzha> Hi guys: I got a problem while upgrading to Gutsy.  When I tried re-installing them using apt-get it says: Errors were encountered while processing: python-setuptools. Any ideas where to start fixing this?
[20:48] <ihope> Well, that didn't work.
[20:48] <Slart> [manas]: good luck.. let me know how it went
[20:48] <Stolencheese> ihope, That was hilarious.. "Estonian, eh?" ..
[20:48] <kkathman> virtuoussin13,   partition editor??
[20:48] <aninhumer> I think the inspectors are here to test our multilingualness
[20:48] <Slart> beeblequix: I haven't had to remove cd's so far in wine.. can't help you, sorry
[20:48] <Stolencheese> I can speak some Spanish! Does that help?
[20:48] <djoser> irc://irc.p2p-network.net
[20:48] <Stolencheese> It has an S in it.
[20:48] <kkathman> virtuoussin13,  I did a sudo fdisk -l and it didnt seem to see it
[20:48] <Vad> Can anyone help me sort out a weird internet problem? I can't access any sites, but my irc works, as you can see.
[20:49] <Stolencheese> Vad, DNS problem.
[20:49] <chx> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-boston-2007/+roadmap <=  	Improve Windows integration as a sever and a client for Ubuntu. Well Windows IS is a piece of shit but are you sure you have not wanted to say "server" in there?
[20:49] <Vad> stolencheese: How do I fix that?
[20:49] <Slart> chx: perhaps it should be sewer
[20:49] <virtuoussin13> odd
[20:49] <Stolencheese> Go to Firefox > Edit > Preferances
[20:49] <virtuoussin13> kkathman: I have no idea then, sorry
[20:49] <Stolencheese> >advanced>network>proxy and set it to automatic
[20:49] <Frodo> we definitely need to start blogBuntu, an Ubuntu blogging network, where each blog is dedicated towards a certain area of Ubuntu.
[20:49] <aninhumer> Vad, sounds like a DNS problem, probably not a problem with your computer, but you ISP :/
[20:49] <chx> Slart: perhaps. whom should i report this typo/
[20:50] <Frodo> that would be of great help to noobies
[20:50] <aninhumer> Vad, or perhaps your router
[20:50] <Vad> It was working all fine before
[20:50] <Vad> Oh, now it works again!
[20:50] <entilzha> Hi guys: I got a problem while upgrading to Gutsy. Somehow the python setup tools are messed-up, stopping the upgrade-tool. When I tried re-installing them using apt-get it says: Errors were encountered while processing: python-setuptools. Any ideas where to start fixing this?
[20:50] <Stolencheese> Aninhumer, Vad, Most likely router, yeah.
[20:50] <Vad> Yay, thanks
[20:50] <Stolencheese> What ddi you do vad?
[20:50] <aninhumer> Vad, yep definitely sounds like an ISP problem :P
[20:50] <Slart> chx: I have no idea.. no mail-adresses in launchpad? web-master?
[20:50] <Stolencheese> Advanced >Network?
[20:50] <Vad> Nope,I actually didn't do anything
[20:50] <Vad> Just refreshed again
[20:50] <Stolencheese> Aninhumer, It's not ISP for sure.
[20:50] <Vad> And it worked. It wasn't working for like half hour before
[20:50] <virtuoussin13> (repeat) can anyone help me with packages (and configure scripts) constantly complaining that I don't have libc6 when I've reinstalled several times?
[20:51] <Stolencheese> Re-install Ubuntu?..