[10:39] <sakrecoer_> for some reason, drafts i made on the wordpress cannot be read by cfhowlett... probably drafts are locked to the user who wrote them..
[10:40] <sakrecoer_> however, we figured it was ok to publish the post for wallpaper contest: https://ubuntustudio.org/2016/01/ubuntustudio-16-04-wallpaper-contest/
[10:40] <cfhowlett> makes sense.  wordpress is perhaps not so collaborative as we might hope.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> yep.  confirmed that it is the top link at ubuntustudio.org  /home
[10:41] <sakrecoer_> \o/
[10:42] <cfhowlett> I just organized the entries in the submissions folder.  kind of like that lego one ...
[10:42] <sakrecoer_> yeah! there are many really cool entries...
[10:42] <cfhowlett> did you know the guy who did that made the "How fast does your computer boot?" video from a few years back?
[10:43] <sakrecoer_> no?
[10:44] <sakrecoer_> i'm impressed by this guys produciton on his website (link in his description) https://www.flickr.com/photos/creativelinux/23887169889/in/album-72157663371091936/
[10:44] <cfhowlett> it was in the last ubuntu showcase.
[10:44] <sakrecoer_> ok...?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> I saw.  not exactly "background" but it will certainly appeal to someone
[10:44] <sakrecoer_> yeah... and also wrong license... :(
[10:45] <sakrecoer_> "all right reserved"... :/
[10:45] <cfhowlett> wait what?
[10:45] <sakrecoer_> but his work is awesome! and he seem to only use FOSS
[10:46] <sakrecoer_> well, it sais on the page bellow "uploaded on jan.." All rights reserved... but maybe that is just default for CreativeLinux user on flickr?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> sakrecoer_, I'll remind him of the CC Sharealike license requirement
[10:47] <cfhowlett> no, I'm "Creative Linux" ...
[10:47] <sakrecoer_> seems all the photos are displayed with all rights reserved
[10:47] <cfhowlett> checking now ...
[10:47] <sakrecoer_> yeah... this one is https://www.flickr.com/photos/creativelinux/24398371081/
[10:48] <sakrecoer_> they are all... probably just a setting somewhere...
[10:48] <cfhowlett> yep.  I"ll track it
[10:48] <sakrecoer_> cool!!! tahkns cfhowlett !! you rock!!!
[13:15] <zequence> sakrecoer_: I was able to open the edit link. I login with the -website account though. Think it has to do with roles
[13:15] <zequence> If you only have an author role, you can only change your own stuff
[13:16] <zequence> The LP team for pr and support does not have full access
[13:16] <cfhowlett> zequence, !  just the guy I was thinking of ... couple of questions??
[13:16] <zequence> cfhowlett: Sure
[13:16] <cfhowlett> 16.04 has 7 wallpapers??  we HAD 14!
[13:16] <cfhowlett> whut!
[13:17] <zequence> Let me check
[13:18] <zequence> They should all be in the lp:ubuntustudio-look branch. I'm getting it now
[13:20] <zequence> They are all in the source. Don't have 16.04 to try right now
[13:21] <zequence> Strange, since they are all in the same dir, and nothing has changed for a good while
[13:22] <cfhowlett> zequence, eh, ok ... next question:  ONE approved ubuntustudio circle?  I see that a new black wordmark was added so I would have thought an alternative circle would also be forthcoming ...
[13:22] <cfhowlett> I commented out 3 of the 4 versions since only 1 is approved
[13:23] <zequence> cfhowlett: No, I realized you had actually put the right circles there
[13:23] <zequence> I only added a black wordmark
[13:23] <cfhowlett> ah.  so they are all good then?
[13:23] <zequence> Yep
[13:23] <cfhowlett> thanks!  hey have you had a chance to see the incoming contest entries?  some good stuff
[13:24] <zequence> No, haven't checked
[13:24] <zequence> The short url didn't work for me
[13:25] <cfhowlett> yeah, sakreceor made a change that doesn't seem to fly right.  I'll get with him on that.
[13:26] <zequence> Alright. Looks like things are happening
[13:26] <cfhowlett> indeed1
[13:27] <cfhowlett> zequence, hey while I have you ...
[13:27] <zequence> Awesome. Thanks for making this happen :)
[13:27] <zequence> Yep
[13:27] <cfhowlett> can we please have the wordmark + circle options back?
[13:28] <zequence> I couldn't find any that we are using right now
[13:28] <zequence> There's one for the web page, but it's png
[13:28] <zequence> Zak might have some
[13:29] <cfhowlett> alright.  I was looking for the new version with no space between ubuntu+studion
[13:29] <cfhowlett> *studio*
[13:29] <zequence> Oh, and when I say the web page, I mean the source for the theme, which is actually not published yet
[13:30] <zequence> Yeah. I'll send an email to Zak and ask him if he can provide us with some stuff
[13:31] <cfhowlett> ah!  we have new stuff coming!?  sweet!
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Excellent!  Thank you.
[13:34] <zequence> cfhowlett: Zak probably has the originals somewhere
[13:35] <cfhowlett> yep.  I'll reach out to him
[13:35] <zequence> cfhowlett: I just sent him an email, asking him to send me stuff if he found any
[13:35] <zequence> If not, we'll need to make new ones
[13:36] <cfhowlett> alright then.  incremental progress is still progress!
[14:50] <sakrecoer_> zequence: cfhowlett: yes i messed up the flickr album :( wanted to add the latest addition to the album, but they were already included. so when i pressed the button the album just dissapeared and there was no undo...sorry... but i fixed it, and updated the links on the wiki and the ubuntustudio.org post
[14:50] <cfhowlett> so we all good now, right?  Accurate information everywhere folks might look?
[14:51] <sakrecoer_> should be yeah...
[14:51] <sakrecoer_> the website post didn't get aggregated on planetubuntu, nor any social media...
[14:51] <sakrecoer_> i'm looking into how to sort that aggregation out as i type..
[14:52] <cfhowlett> nice.  OK, one last nitpick; please correct my typo: * Dilettantes *           in the invitation
[14:52] <sakrecoer_> invitation?
[14:52] <sakrecoer_> ok.. think i found it
[14:53] <cfhowlett> 2nd paragraph of the contest announcement.  I can't edit it
[14:53] <sakrecoer_> fixed on the website...
[14:54] <cfhowlett> perfect.
[14:55] <sakrecoer_> zequence: i can't find how to get the posts from the website be aggregated to g+, twitter etc...
[15:03] <sakrecoer_> cfhowlett: you sure it is not spelled Dilettants?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> well it's a french word, so the dictionary has been a bit confusing.  wait 1
[15:03] <sakrecoer_> yeah it seems to depend on the dictionary...
[15:04] <cfhowlett> dilettante is singular so under NORMAL rules, add an S for plural
[15:04] <cfhowlett> = dilettantes
[15:04] <sakrecoer_> yeah... but then you have this: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dilettants
[15:04] <sakrecoer_> :D
[15:05] <sakrecoer_> lets ask flocculant :)
[15:05] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: dilettants or dilettantes ? :)
[15:06] <cfhowlett> sonuva ...
[15:08] <cfhowlett> sakrecoer_, fun fact: ubuntu has a free culture showcase active since 12/15/15.  10 entries in total.  we already have more entries!
[15:08] <cfhowlett> https://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-fcs-1604/
[15:10] <sakrecoer_> cfhowlett: :)
[15:12] <sakrecoer_> it seems that linuxfoundation post did a lot. i posted the twitt for contributors wanted in GNUsocial and got a few repeats.. or whatever they call it..
[15:12] <cfhowlett> tweets?  twits?  twats?
[15:12] <sakrecoer_> haha! yeah.. that
[15:45] <zequence> sakrecoer_: There is a plugin for aggregating to other sites, but it's not enabled. I do that manually.
[15:46] <zequence> I usually do twitter, facebook and gplus
[15:46] <zequence> diaspora is a recent addition. And, I forgot to use it last time
[15:46] <zequence> So, I would do those, with diaspora - especially for floss art stuff
[15:55] <sakrecoer_> thanks zequence :)
[16:06] <sakrecoer_> i can do all except facebook... i haev no account and i'm affraid i REALLY don't want to bother having a fake one... :D
[16:08] <sakrecoer_> if my partner sees me logged in, she is going to send me to outerspace before she calls out my inconsistency :D
[16:12] <sakrecoer_> i make it sound worse then it is, i understand its the same a g+ twitt etc... if no-one else can i will... but i prefer no too :D
[16:34] <zequence> sakrecoer_: I really think you should create one just for administering the page. You don't need to have any friends, or anything else, you know
[16:35] <zequence> And, if you think Ubuntu Studio should quit using facebook, you can always make a case and see what the opinions are
[16:35] <zequence> We have almost 20k likes, so it's an active page
[16:38] <sakrecoer_> but... but :'( wut abut mi pride and stuff? hahaaha :D
[16:38] <sakrecoer_> ye... we'll see, if no one else is there, i guess i will have to do like you say..
[16:39] <sakrecoer_> but i count 9 members in the PR-team...
[16:39] <sakrecoer_> :p
[16:40] <zequence> Only you and Jimmy are able to post
[16:40] <zequence> And, it makes no sense for one guy to post on all but one
[16:41] <sakrecoer_> ok, you winn :)
[16:41] <zequence> The rest of the members aren't active. Some should probably not be there anymore
[16:42] <zequence> Erik Hedekar showed up and wanted to be in teams, but he hasn't done any work while I've been involved for the past 4-5 years or so
[16:42] <zequence> I guess he thought that since he used to be involved that he should be like an honorary member
[16:43] <zequence> Actually, there are only 6 members, plus the core team and its two members
[16:44] <zequence> ttoine has only done work on the web shop that one time during last 4-5 years
[16:44] <zequence> holstein is no longer involved at all
[16:45] <sakrecoer_> wut? seriously?
[16:45] <sakrecoer_> thats sad news...
[16:45] <sakrecoer_> at least it is news to me.. mike no longer being involved...
[16:46] <zequence> I guess he didn't announce it or anything. I talked with him about it a few months back
[16:46] <zequence> IMO, it was for the best
[16:47] <sakrecoer_> ok.. well.. i couldn't tell, AFAIK he was a delightfull techsupporter...
[16:47] <zequence> He was often giving people the wrong information though
[16:47] <sakrecoer_> oh...
[16:47] <zequence> Well, nothing serious
[16:49] <sakrecoer_> he helped me much! :) i hope there are no hardfeelings involved and there is, i'd rather stay out of them ...
[16:50] <sakrecoer_> /if/ there is, i'd rather...
[16:51] <sakrecoer_> fb... *gasp* they send me a verification code in a stupid caption image over email, i have set my client to dissregard everything html..
[16:53] <sakrecoer_> haha sorry.. for ranting.
[16:56] <zequence> I'll be dropping facebook eventually, and do understand why one would prefer to avoid it
[17:02] <sakrecoer_> you should! life without is so much sweeter ;) i dropped out 2012.. never looked back
[17:03] <zequence> Well, you did now :D
[17:03] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio has a bad influence on people
[17:03] <sakrecoer_> haha! well... that is if i get in!!
[17:04] <sakrecoer_> i can't find how to make thunderbird display the mail in html again...
[17:04] <sakrecoer_> and i have to if i want to see the stupid code they sent me...
[17:10] <sakrecoer_> "having problems loging in? click here to read our password guide" *click* "you must login to continue" :D
[17:14] <sakrecoer_> i'm in :'(
[17:15] <sakrecoer_> greeted by the man with the key to everyones privatelife
[17:15] <sakrecoer_> wow!! there are so many ubuntustudio fanpages!
[17:16] <sakrecoer_> i'm just going to assume it is this one: https://www.facebook.com/Ubuntustudio/
[17:25] <sakrecoer_> 14k followers... you bluffer :D
[17:26] <sakrecoer_> well... now we have a user account that anybody in the PR group can use :D
[17:26] <sakrecoer_> ... to manage facebook page :D
[17:30] <zequence> Ah, it was only 14k :)
[17:30] <zequence> The user account is yours. Page management is done internally in facebook
[17:33] <sakrecoer_> i know, but i don't plan to use this account for anything else.. hence if a new user comes with same ethics like me, this user could loginto that useracount to manage the page ;)
[18:22] <msdos1998> hi


[08:03] <mup> Bug #1614864 opened: [2.1] Error on request (48) subnet.list: column maasserver_staticroute.created does not exist <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614864>
[08:03] <mup> Bug #1614865 opened: [2.1] builtins.AssertionError: Observed state should not be 'on'. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614865>
[16:50] <gimmic> Might be a dumb question, but could maas be utilized to deploy SDN switches?
[16:50] <gimmic> similar to http://onie.org/about/
[17:36] <kiko> gimmic, yes, if the switch can PXE-boot


[14:16] <hyperair> Sarvatt: where did you get your 3.7 kernel from? i can't seem to merge overlayfs into my build =\


[02:43] <zus> holstein,  ya there?
[08:46] <holstein> hey zus
[08:47] <holstein> i was about to run out
[08:47] <zus> holstein,  :)
[08:47] <holstein> i saw you pinged me :)
[08:47] <holstein> whats up?
[08:47] <zus> i found a video
[08:47] <holstein> AH
[08:47] <zus> on  hooking an amp and guitar to the pc
[08:47] <zus> just as i thought....
[08:47] <holstein> nice
[08:47] <holstein> did you try it yet?
[08:48] <zus> no im not at home
[08:48] <zus> im at my best mates. my home away from home
[08:48] <holstein> let me know how it goes
[08:48] <zus> i came on to ask around if there is a ppa for like huludesktop for linux or such..
[08:49] <holstein> hmmm
[08:49] <zus> i sure will, i just got home from the pub
[08:49] <holstein> i just installed the .deb from the site
[08:49] <holstein> for hulu
[08:49] <zus> i seen a vid  youtube saying ti was cool, not informitive beyond that lol
[08:49] <holstein> i havnet noticed a PPA that has it in there
[08:50] <zus> never used it b4
[08:50] <holstein> hulu?
[08:50] <holstein> the 'app' or whatever
[08:50] <zus> aye
[08:50] <holstein> i liked it
[08:50] <holstein> its cool they wrote a linux version too
[08:50] <zus> no hulu in general i know its like tv shows but never been on it
[08:51] <holstein> worked well for me
[08:51] <holstein> AH
[08:51] <holstein> yeah, its cool
[08:51] <holstein> and the desktop app is just that much nicer
[08:51] <zus> might can watch the terminator series 2 then
[08:51] <zus> love summer glau
[08:51] <holstein> it ran great on my EEEpc 900 even
[08:51] <holstein> i had to mess with the quality setting a bit
[08:52] <zus> i also grabbed skype too im waiting on a day to walmart to buy a headset & mic.
[08:52] <holstein> cool
[08:53] <zus> now to make friends and put all this social networking crap to use  hahaha
[08:53] <holstein> hehe
[08:53] <holstein> well, i gotta try and sleep for a bit
[08:53] <holstein> i got an early rehersal tomorrow
[08:53] <zus> aye im trying to wind down myself
[08:53] <holstein> early for me at least ;)
[08:53] <holstein> laterz
[08:53] <zus> few pints of newcastle only to sit b4 bed,
[08:54] <zus> nighterz
[08:54] <zus> rest easy.
[19:00] <Traveler2> word
[19:01] <subaubu> i've recently tried to update to ubuntu studio...but i don't think it installed properly
[19:41] <Traveler5> i recently tried to upgrade 10.4 ubuntu to ubuntu studio...i don't think it installed properly...
[19:41] <subaubuntu> ^^


[08:03] <pikachuza> hi jhenke me again. I tried to install jenkins on an ubuntu machine but must confess I am uncertain how to install a full jenkins server. I did a apt-cache search and tried to install things like jenkins-job-builder and jenkins-task-reactor but none of them has installed a jenkins web application.
[08:04] <pikachuza> jhenke am I missing some meta package to install jenkins? Once installed I will get the source debs for the package. Thanks
[14:44] <jhenke> hmm I am pretty sure there is a "jenkins" package
[14:44] <jhenke> but in case I am wrong, I use the upstream packaing: http://jenkins-ci.org/
[14:45] <jhenke> which definitelly provide a package named kenins
[14:45] <jhenke> which will install a working jenkins instance on your system


[16:33] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:33] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:33] <tyhicks> hello
[16:33]  * sbeattie waves
[16:34] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[16:34] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jul 21 16:34:27 2014 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:34] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:34] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:34] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:34] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:34] <jdstrand> Reinhard Tartler (siretart) provided a package for trusty for libav (LP: #1341216)
[16:35] <jdstrand> Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job!
[16:35] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:35] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[16:35] <jdstrand> I'm on community this week
[16:35] <jdstrand> I'm working on openjdk-6 updates today
[16:35] <jdstrand> I've got performance reviews to do
[16:36] <jdstrand> and plan on doing apparmor testing and helping out in any way I can to get that landed
[16:36] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:36] <mdeslaur> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:36] <mdeslaur> I have some updates pending
[16:36] <mdeslaur> and have a lot more to work on
[16:36] <mdeslaur> that's about it from me
[16:36] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[16:37] <sbeattie> I'm focused on apparmor this week.
[16:37] <sbeattie> I'll be testing stuff in support of jjohansen, basically doing whatever he needs in support of landing the socket stuff
[16:38] <mdeslaur> cool
[16:38] <sbeattie> And with jdstrand's note, I guess I have the sword damocles' performance reviews hanging over my head.
[16:38] <sbeattie> meh, sword of ...
[16:38] <sbeattie> that's pretty much it for me
[16:38] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up
[16:38] <tyhicks> I'm focused on AppArmor
[16:39] <tyhicks> I'm currently getting jj's parser patches for supporting multiple policy cache dirs into shape for upstreaming
[16:40] <tyhicks> they needed to be rebased against upstream and a couple of the later patches in the series didn't build
[16:40] <tyhicks> that's all fixed and now I'm going back through to clean things up and then start testing
[16:40] <tyhicks> there's still a few stubbed out pieces of functionality that I need to implement, too
[16:41] <tyhicks> I'll be working on that until the abstract socket patches are available for packaging and testing
[16:41] <tyhicks> Oh, I have a short week this week (off on Friday)
[16:41] <tyhicks> and I need to do performance review stuff
[16:41] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[16:41] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:42] <jjohansen> I'm focused on apparmor this week, I'm going to cram socket stuff at sbeattie, and tyhicks until they are sick of it
[16:43] <mdeslaur> sweet
[16:43] <jdstrand> \o/
[16:43] <jjohansen> I'm also going to hand some upstream testing work over to tyhicks, so we can get a push out before the security window closes
[16:44]  * jjohansen and tyhicks will coordinate to get that done
[16:44] <tyhicks> I'm detecting a buffer overflow of my 4 work days this week
[16:44] <tyhicks> ;)
[16:44] <tyhicks> jjohansen: approx when does that window close?
[16:44] <mdeslaur> heh
[16:45] <jdstrand> thankfully, that should be the last big piece for the phone
[16:45] <jjohansen> tyhicks: its not fixed but james like to have the patches for the next release by around rc5
[16:45] <jjohansen> the other subsystems seem to have pushed already
[16:45] <tyhicks> we're at rc6
[16:46] <jjohansen> yes
[16:46] <tyhicks> cool, we'll see if we can make it
[16:46] <jjohansen> we are late already but he will likely take it if we can get it out before rc7
[16:47] <jjohansen> I think that is it for me, sarnold you're up
[16:49] <sarnold> I'm on triage this week; I'm also doing a MIR of librevenge, some additional code review of trust-store, performance review, and webrtc-audio-processing MIR; if there's any spare cycles they'll probably go towards apparmor patch reviews
[16:49] <sarnold> I think that's it for me, chris appears out, jdstrand?
[16:53] <jdstrand> ok
[16:53] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:53] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:53] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:53] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mupdf.html
[16:53] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ldap-account-manager.html
[16:53] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/openarena.html
[16:53] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/nullmailer.html
[16:54] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/qtnx.html
[16:54] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:54] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:57] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: thanks!
[16:58] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[16:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jul 21 16:58:08 2014 UTC.
[16:58] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-07-21-16.34.moin.txt
[16:58] <tyhicks> thanks
[16:58] <mdeslaur> thanks jdstrand!
[16:58] <sbeattie> thanks jdstrand
[17:00] <sarnold> thanks jdstrand
[18:00] <ovidiu-florin> Hello world
[18:01] <Riddell> ping mamarok, yofel, shadeslayer, ScottK, valorie
[18:01] <yofel> o/
[18:01] <valorie> o/
[18:01] <Riddell> morning valorie
[18:01] <valorie> good morning!
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> morning valorie
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> Glad you could make it :D
[18:02] <valorie> I'm glad you made me!
[18:02] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting for membership of ovidiu-florin to ~kubuntu-members
[18:02] <lordievader> Good evening everyone o/
[18:02]  * Sick_Rimmit waves
[18:02] <Riddell> we have a nice new policy to guide us https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#Election_Process_.28.28TBD.29.29
[18:03] <Riddell> "Kubuntu Members are the most trusted and devoted members of the community, having gained public recogition for their work on Kubuntu by being accepted as official Kubuntu Members. Membership in this team also makes you an Ubuntu Member. "
[18:03] <Riddell> "Requirements: Significant and sustained contributions (of any sort) to Kubuntu, love for Kubuntu"
[18:03] <Riddell> so ovidiu-florin, who are you and what do you do in kubuntu?
[18:03] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OvidiuFlorinBogdan
[18:04] <ovidiu-florin> Hello every one
[18:04] <Sick_Rimmit> Hi ovidiu-florin
[18:05] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ping :)
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> I'm a linux addict and KDE enthusiast from Romania, I've discovered linux ~9-10 years ago (in highschool), been using Ubuntu for a while, untill Unity came along, then I gave KDE another try
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> The first try was the beginnig of KDE 4, So I hit a wall there
[18:06] <ovidiu-florin> But I grew fond of it, ans switched to Kubuntu soon after
[18:06] <ovidiu-florin> I like it so much that I've decided to contribute
[18:07] <ovidiu-florin> My first few attempts, were a few bug reports, and after I've met you guys, I've started with a bit of packaging
[18:07] <Riddell> how is ro.kubuntu.org going?
[18:08] <ovidiu-florin> My biggest contribution was the Kubuntu Romania website, and a small Kubuntu comunity in my city
[18:08] <ovidiu-florin> The purpose of the site was to provide assistance in romanian, to Kubuntu enthusiasts
[18:08] <ovidiu-florin> and a news feed
[18:09] <ovidiu-florin> Currently I'm working on a new and improved Kubuntu.org website on the wordpress platform, that is planned to be multinilgual
[18:09]  * Sick_Rimmit Oooo sounds good
[18:10] <ovidiu-florin> Some of my other contributions are: a Kubuntu users map: https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zYpuT2LjYCLw.kig2rC4pVBg8
[18:10] <ovidiu-florin> the migration of a school to Kubuntu
[18:10] <ovidiu-florin> from Windows XP and 7
[18:11] <lordievader> \o/
[18:11] <valorie> exactly!
[18:11] <valorie> so impressive
[18:11] <Riddell> hmm I should move my entry on that map
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> convinced friends to contribute to Kubuntu, one way or another
[18:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Where can I find that map, and how can I add myself?
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> I'm in the workings to become an official Go to person for Kubuntu in my city and a few surrounding ones
[18:12] <yofel> Riddell: convince the others in the office to add themselves while at it ^^
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader, yofel, currently to add yourself to that map, you need to have editor rights.
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> I plan to alter that
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> to make a script, with moderation, that can allow you to do that
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> a kind of Google web form
[18:13] <yofel> sweet
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> but on our hosting
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> I have a few trials, but I need to learn the Google maps API better
[18:13] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: Kubuntu has some politics around it these days, is any of that off putting to new contributors?
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> since it changed in the past years, and the online tutorials are outdated
[18:15] <ovidiu-florin> I don't think it should loosen the enthusiasm of new users. I believe it should motivate them to join a growing community
[18:16] <ovidiu-florin> and that map, provides a visual aid to how spread and large the community is.
[18:16] <Riddell> :)
[18:16] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: Did I understand your question right?
[18:16] <Riddell> yep
[18:16] <ovidiu-florin> great
[18:17] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: how is the new kubuntu.org going?
[18:17] <ovidiu-florin> unfourtanetly slow, right now. It's near compleation, but still needs a few tweaks, and testing.
[18:18] <ovidiu-florin> anyone can feel free to stress test it and to report any kind of issues or suggestions
[18:18] <Riddell> yofel, valorie, anyone: any questions?
[18:18] <ovidiu-florin> Slow, because I've just switched jobs, and the accomodation is taking some effort on my part
[18:19] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: do you do much user help in IRC?
[18:19] <valorie> is there a romanian ubuntu chan?
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> not that much on IRC, unfourtanetly. The romanians forgot that IRC exists. There is a official #ubuntu-ro and an unofficial #kubuntu-ro
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> Most of the support foes on the ubuntu.ro forum, in the Kubuntu section, or on the Kubuntu Romania Google+ page
[18:20] <valorie> it's good if you are there, when you're online though
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> or on the phone
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> on my part at least
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> and lot's of teamviewer
[18:21] <valorie> interesting
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> Yesterday, I brought a new friend over to Kubuntu :D
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> he's not on the map yet
[18:21] <valorie> excellent!
[18:21] <Riddell> yay :)
[18:22] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: have you tried Plasma 5 and how far away from being sane to be default do you think it is?
[18:22] <ovidiu-florin> but I lost another user, becouse of other people that have windows XP, and this gave some MS Office compatibility problems.
[18:23] <Riddell> hi Mamarok
[18:23] <ovidiu-florin> I haven't tried it yet, more than the neon5 isos on a virtual machine, but I'm keeping a close eye on it and every review I can see/read
[18:23] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: how has the feedback been with deploying kubuntu in school and offices? Any people been really hard to convince?
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> the kids in the school have no idea of the change
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> firefox works the same
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> the teachers needed a bit of training and so did the administration
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> oh, forgot to mention:
[18:25] <ovidiu-florin> in that school, some windows computers were necessary, because of proprietary software
[18:25] <ovidiu-florin> but they use Libre Office on those, now :D
[18:25] <Riddell> Mamarok: any more questions before we vote?
[18:25] <Sick_Rimmit> This is very impressive, how many seats have you converted in the school ?
[18:26] <ovidiu-florin> ~20 in the informatics labs and 3 in the administration
[18:26] <ovidiu-florin> there are 3 on windows XP still
[18:26] <Riddell> apachelogger: any more questions before we vote?
[18:26] <apachelogger> nah
[18:26]  * yofel is done
[18:26] <valorie> ovidiu-florin rocks
[18:26] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin:  Oh that's really good, well done
[18:27] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[18:27] <Mamarok> Riddell: ovidiu-florin:not so far, I check on his profile already :)
[18:27] <apachelogger> make him a member already, all I have to say :P
[18:27] <Riddell> council members: let's vote
[18:27] <yofel> right, lets get the paperwork done
[18:27] <Riddell> I vote +1 for clear passion and dedication
[18:27] <Riddell> I have have proxy votes from ScottK and shadeslayer of +1 and +1
[18:27] <yofel> +1 for longtime contributions and being awesome all over the place
[18:28] <Mamarok> +1 from me, I love the dedication and enthousiasm
[18:28] <Riddell> groovy, I think that's a clear +6
[18:28] <Riddell> welcome in ovidiu-florin
[18:28] <valorie> +1 for rocking
[18:28] <Mamarok> top, welcome ovidiu-florin :)
[18:28] <ovidiu-florin> Thank you everybody
[18:28] <Sick_Rimmit> Oh very good, congrats ovidiu-florin good job
[18:28] <Mamarok> glad to have you on board!
[18:29] <yofel> welcome to being even more awesome ;)
[18:29] <valorie> thanks for being prepared for the meeting, ovidiu-florin
[18:29] <yofel> anything else?
[18:29] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ovidiub13 on membership?
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> ovidiub13 is my launchpad ID, if that's what you're asking
[18:30] <Riddell> I think that's all, back to packaging 4.14 beta, with 4.13.3 in the queue and plasma 5 ISOs on their way
[18:30] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: lovely, added
[18:30] <yofel> ack
[18:30] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Congratulations!
[18:30] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: you can now add your blog to planet ubuntu and you should get an @kubuntu.org e-mail address
[18:30] <valorie> yes, congratulations
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> Thank you
[18:31] <valorie> good work
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: and the buissiness cards?
[18:32] <Riddell> let's move back to #kubuntu-devel


[01:41] <jbicha> darkxst: have you started Release Notes anywhere?
[01:42] <darkxst> jbicha, not yet was going to get to that a bit later today
[01:47] <jbicha> ok, here's a few things http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803382/ and we can link to https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.8/
[02:50] <roasted> By any chance is the lack of a battery meter in 13.10 a known issue?
[02:56] <jbicha> darkxst: if this is accurate, Kubuntu has a black isolinux screen which at least is better than the purple one
[02:56] <jbicha> http://www.thecodingstudio.com/?linux&release=Kubuntu%2013.04
[03:02] <jbicha> roasted: please file a bug; since I can get a power menu on Unity but not in gnome-shell, I guess you can file against gnome-shell for now
[03:03] <roasted> jbicha: you got it
[03:06] <jbicha> roasted: I know what's wrong; I've fixed this problem before :(
[03:06] <roasted> jbicha: in 13.10?
[03:07] <roasted> or just in general with prior versions?
[03:07] <jbicha> last time I fixed it in the GNOME3 PPA for Raring
[03:07] <roasted> ah, I remember that, actually
[03:07] <jbicha> GNOME Shell 3.8 needs a one line fix to work with gnome-settings-daemon 3.6
[03:07] <roasted> well, here you be - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1195093
[14:28] <skaet> darkxst,  Is there a link to the release notes for Ubuntu Gnome that should be used for the announce?
[14:30] <jbicha> skaet: I believe darkxst is asleep since he's in Australia, our release notes are linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha1
[14:31] <skaet> jbicha,  ok, hadn't heard confirmation you'd be using that link I set up.   Right now its just the template,  and doesn't have much Ubuntu Gnome features in it.
[14:31] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha1/UbuntuGNOME
[14:32] <jbicha> yeah we have some Ubuntu GNOME items there
[14:32] <skaet> jbicha,  sorry,  yes.  I failed to refresh the page.
[14:32] <skaet> see it now.
[14:32] <skaet> thanks.
[17:54] <jbicha> camelinahat: did you want to do the release announcement?
[17:57] <jbicha> if you do, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha1/UbuntuGNOME and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.10/alpha-1/
[18:08] <camelinahat> Hey jbicha, sorry about that. Yeah I can write up something quickly on it. :)
[18:11] <jbicha> camelinahat: no problem, I don't think the torrents are working yet anyway
[18:46] <jbicha> camelinahat: the generic announcement was just sent
[18:53] <camelinahat> jbicha, Oh lol I was just about to link this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805575/
[18:56] <jbicha> camelinahat: I think we should still send something for those who are only subscribed to our list or website
[18:57] <jbicha> you can use what you wrote or repurpose the generic announcement
[19:02] <camelinahat> jbicha, My bad I had misunderstood I thought you meant someone else had already sent out a generic announcement regarding UG.
[19:02] <camelinahat> I'll send it out in just a minute if it looks alright with you.
[19:03] <jbicha> it looks fine
[19:04] <jbicha> (what I meant was that we should wait for the official release announcement before hitting send on our side)


[04:20] <ahoneybun> valorie: ?
[04:20] <ahoneybun> Darkwing: ?
[04:21] <valorie> here
[04:21] <ahoneybun> cool
[04:21] <valorie> how are you tonight, aaron?
[04:21] <ahoneybun> we morning here lol good, you?
[04:21]  * valorie has been listening to uds sessions I've missed
[04:21] <valorie> ah, where are you?
[04:21] <ahoneybun> Florida
[04:21]  * valorie is near Seattle
[04:22] <valorie> it is not morning in Florida!
[04:22] <ahoneybun> 12
[04:22] <ahoneybun> 12:22 am
[04:22] <valorie> btw, where in FL?
[04:22] <valorie> i've only been to Orlando
[04:22] <ahoneybun> Orlando is in Florida
[04:22] <valorie> and the Wekiva River, which I LOVED
[04:23] <ahoneybun> Florida is the state
[04:23] <valorie> yes, I wondered how far you were from orlando
[04:23] <ahoneybun> that was a great video chat
[04:23] <ahoneybun> oh like 300 or so miles
[04:23] <valorie> I wish I could have stayed to the end
[04:23] <valorie> :(
[04:23] <ahoneybun> the UDS?
[04:23] <valorie> I did come to the UDS, a few days early
[04:23] <valorie> and stayed with my friend on the Wekiva
[04:24] <ahoneybun> oh I wanted to go so bad
[04:24] <valorie> which is paradise
[04:24] <valorie> do you live south or north of O?
[04:24] <ahoneybun> can you help me fix up this page? Add a comment...
[04:24] <ahoneybun> south
[04:24] <valorie> ok
[04:24] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs
[04:24] <valorie> I've always wanted to see Miama
[04:25] <ahoneybun> its fine, I've never been to clubs or real bars, since I'm only 20
[04:25] <valorie> after watching Dexter
[04:25] <valorie> it looks amazing
[04:26] <valorie> ok, I added Krita
[04:26] <valorie> to the page
[04:26] <ahoneybun> oh yea I know
[04:26] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[04:26] <valorie> Miami, sheesh
[04:26] <ahoneybun> I just want to fix that page, get things worked out with titles for the pages, and what to put on them
[04:27] <valorie> cool
[04:27] <valorie> might be able to copy /paste some of the stuff we've already written
[04:27] <valorie> move, etc.
[04:27] <ahoneybun> yes I have done that for the welcome page
[04:27] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome
[04:28] <ahoneybun> I know I need to change a few things, like the release names as it says 13.04
[04:29] <valorie> well, we won't need the sub page part
[04:29] <valorie> hopefully
[04:29] <ahoneybun> yea I want to have links back since we are trying to use the web slice widget
[04:30] <valorie> cool
[04:30] <ahoneybun> just trying to get a foundation first
[04:31] <valorie> of course
[04:32] <ahoneybun> guess you can say I am taking lead lol
[04:33] <valorie> yes, you are
[04:33] <ahoneybun> I wish there was a way to make a header look right but be a link as well
[04:34] <valorie> use a clickable image?
[04:34] <ahoneybun> maybe
[04:36] <ahoneybun> I'm just going to keep trying
[04:41]  * ahoneybun wonders if moinmoin supports that
[04:44] <ahoneybun> valorie: put a web slice widget on your desktop and link it to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs
[04:44] <ahoneybun> please
[04:48] <valorie> yikes, how does one add a url?
[04:48] <valorie> now I have two o fhte damn things
[04:48] <ahoneybun> the setting icon on the side when you hover over the widget
[04:49] <valorie> ok, got rid of one
[04:49] <valorie> ok, you meant on the desktop, and mine's in the panel where it is useless
[04:49] <ahoneybun> yea
[04:52] <valorie> damn I hate these li(*(^&%*&(
[04:53] <valorie> it looks good, though
[04:54] <valorie> I hate that you can't move it anywhere
[04:54] <valorie> effing widgets
[04:54] <valorie> I never do *anything* on my desktop anymore, because I can't stand stuff I can't place where I want, the size I want
[04:57] <valorie> does it work for you as well?
[04:59] <ahoneybun> the site or putting things on my destop?
[05:08] <valorie> the site on the slice widget
[05:13] <ahoneybun> yea it works
[05:14] <valorie> cool
[05:14] <ahoneybun> just wonder if we need to make https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome shorter
[05:15] <valorie> I didn't quite understand why the slice was chosen rather than the browser widget?
[05:15] <valorie> ahoneybun: shorter is always better
[05:15] <ahoneybun> I know
[05:15] <ahoneybun> valorie: I know, the browser one is looking better that it can scroll
[05:18] <valorie> well, just because we decided on slice at the meeting doesn't mean we can't change our minds
[05:18] <valorie> we've got time to decide what's best
[05:19] <ahoneybun> I know
[05:20] <ahoneybun> yea it was just nice the way slice looked at first
[05:20] <valorie> it makes me happy that we're working NOW and not waiting though
[05:20] <ahoneybun> waiting?
[05:22] <valorie> to the end
[05:22] <valorie> which is the way it has been while I've been around
[05:23] <ahoneybun> I think with the browser vs slice we do not need to shorten it as much as I thought
[05:24] <valorie> well: shorter is always better
[05:24] <valorie> people don't read our golden prose
[05:24] <ahoneybun> I know
[05:25] <ahoneybun> but it does not limit it as much as slice would have
[05:32] <valorie> people have a short attention span
[05:32] <ahoneybun> I know
[05:32] <valorie> imo whatever looks best is the right choice
[05:32] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome
[05:32] <valorie> if they are interested, they'll read
[05:32] <valorie> otherwise, they'll skip it anyway, so we may as well look sharp
[05:36] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic
[05:36] <ahoneybun> can you tell me what you think we don't need?
[05:38] <valorie> well, I think all the tips are not basic
[05:38] <valorie> good stuff, but not necessarily basic
[05:39] <ahoneybun> so remove?
[05:40] <ahoneybun> I'm going to move the managing software to the right page.
[05:43] <valorie> well
[05:43] <valorie> I think darkwing had the right idea
[05:43] <valorie> start with what we WANT
[05:43] <valorie> drag that in
[05:43] <valorie> then decide what to do with what's left
[05:44] <valorie> the reason what we have is so full of cruft is because no one has ever done that
[05:45] <ahoneybun> so what do I do just pull all the work I have or look at what we have in the original docs and pull what we want
[05:46] <ahoneybun> valorie: then lets work on this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs and write what we think is needed in the Docs
[05:46] <ahoneybun> then pull info from the old docs, and then take the fat off of what we think we don't need
[05:48] <valorie> I'm busy atm, but can help in a few
[05:48] <ahoneybun> I can just go to sleep and you get to it when you have the time
[05:49] <ahoneybun> and send a email with your opinion
[05:49] <ahoneybun> *s
[05:49] <valorie> ok, but write what you want
[05:49] <valorie> and we'll include darkwing in our lil doc circle
[05:50] <ahoneybun> what I want in the docs? what is there right now is for what darkwing said for now
[05:50] <ahoneybun> ok I'm off to bed for now
[05:53] <lars> hi there
[05:53] <lars> are there any experts here?
[06:02] <valorie> lars: experts on what?
[06:02] <valorie> we're all experts
[06:02] <valorie> but this isn't support, this is devel
[06:03] <palasso> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome has a broken link
[06:03] <valorie> which one, palasso?
[06:03] <valorie> we were just working on that
[06:03] <palasso> On What is Linux section the first link is: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/www.linux.org
[06:03] <valorie> woah
[06:03] <palasso> It should be www.linux.org
[06:03] <valorie> yes, fixing
[06:04] <valorie> hmmm, not sure what you are seeing
[06:05] <valorie> oh, I see
[06:05] <valorie> that is *strange*
[06:05] <valorie> and not what is in the text
[06:06] <palasso> The same on the same section with GNU Project!
[06:06] <valorie> fixed it; thanks for pointing that out
[06:06] <valorie> just fixed that too
[06:07] <palasso> np
[06:07] <valorie> turns out if you leave out the http:// part
[06:07] <valorie> the wiki stuff is inserted!
[06:07] <valorie> strange and weird moinmoin
[06:07] <valorie> btw, it's a wiki, so editable by you, too
[06:07] <valorie> :-0
[06:08] <palasso> r u sure?
[06:08] <palasso> Should I register or sth?
[06:08] <valorie> you have to have an account, yes
[06:08] <valorie> but it should be fixed
[06:09] <palasso> Ok thnx for the notice ;)
[06:09] <valorie> if you want to help us with docs, you'll need an account..... the one for ubuntu.com works for all, I think
[06:09] <valorie> we're starting now on the docs for saucy
[08:43] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[16:21] <ahoneybun> hello people
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[19:25] <ScottK> New CMake needs merging.
[19:58] <jussi> bah, kwallet is one of the crudiest parts of KDE, sadly :(

[20:06] <lars> I'm having problems installing Kubuntu 12.04
[20:06] <lars> Is there an expert here who can help me?
[20:10] <jussi> lars: #kubuntu for support :)