[00:01] <abdobonna> ok  thx
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> well well well
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> look who joined the party
[00:03] <mrb101> hey, I have the lubuntu normal iso image and i want to install it through text mode ! could i boot to text mode installer instead of live ?!
[00:04] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw ok on laptop now
[00:04] <silentmyst> nickserv
[00:04] <djthree> hello
[00:05] <michealPW> skeeter_: Righto. First log-in to the machine. Once you've logged in, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:05] <michealPW> skeeter_lappy: That will install pastebinit, a little utility that automatically puts information to pastebin for us to see. We can use it to try and figure out what's going on with your X Windows system :P
[00:05] <mrb101> anyone could help me with booting into text mode installer from a normal ISO  "LiveCD" ?
[00:06] <calwig> whats the non ubuntu channel called?
[00:06] <yeats> !alis | calwig
[00:06] <djthree> I have a 32-bit Ubuntu 12.10, you can install a 64-bit kernel?
[00:06] <yeats> djthree: nope
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> mrb101, This 12.04?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> or 12.10
[00:07] <gavin__> Hello
[00:07] <mrb101> wilee-nilee, its 12.10
[00:07] <gavin__> I have just downloaded Lubuntu on windows, how many MB is a CD-R?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> mrb101, You can't as far as I know use the mini cd a net install and choose lubuntu, it is a text install.
[00:08] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Did you get pastebinit installed okay?
[00:08] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw got it installed
[00:08] <blackshirt> gavin_ cdr usually about 700mb
[00:09] <mrb101> wilee-nilee, yeah i knew that but i downloaded the liveCD to install it on an old hardware !! thought there might be a way.. :) thanks i will download the text installer image
[00:09] <mrb101> thanks
[00:09] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Righto. So now type this in: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> mrb101, no problem here is a link of needed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:10] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Then type the address it spits out. To save time, you can just type the number in the address, I already know it's http://paste.ubuntu.com hehe
[00:10] <michealPW> Since you can't copy/paste :P
[00:10] <silentmyst> ok so here is another one of my brilliantly dumb questions... been googleling this but it doesn't seem to give me the
[00:10] <silentmyst>  answer im quite looking for  - so... using the grep command how do you search for more than one word? for example say i want to search a file for the words "brown" and "fox" what command would i use? grep  brown fox filenamehere
[00:10] <silentmyst> grep -e brown fox filenamehere
[00:10] <silentmyst> grep 'brown fox' filenamehere
[00:10] <silentmyst> ect ect
[00:10] <FloodBot1> silentmyst: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <taylor1> hi i have been working on installing ubuntu and when i was done and it asked me to restart, i got a frozen purple screen. it worked when i set it to the easy graphics setting or whatever its called in recovery mode. plz help thx :)
[00:11] <Skeeter_lappy> 13
[00:11] <Skeeter_lappy> 1313970
[00:11] <michealPW> k
[00:11] <Fuchs> silentmyst: they are connected via an AND or an OR?
[00:12] <michealPW> Let me checkout the log, see if I notice anything
[00:12] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[00:12] <silentmyst> i use terminator and no matter which version of grep, grep -e, or egrep i use it seem to highlight the last word im searching for
[00:12] <silentmyst> so im not sure its actually searching for 2 words
[00:12] <Fuchs> for the OR:  you can just egrep (or grep -E, doing the same) and word1|word2|word3
[00:13] <silentmyst> i want an and command instead of or
[00:13] <Fuchs> ah
[00:13] <PatrickDickey> Fuchs, so silentmyst would say something like grep -E brown | fox filename right?
[00:13] <taylor1> hello? could someone plz help with installation problems?
[00:13] <Fuchs> so all words must be in that file?
[00:13] <Fuchs> PatrickDickey: for an or:  grep -E "foo|bar" file    for searching either foo or bar
[00:14] <XiaolinDraconis> maybe wrapped in quotes
[00:14] <PatrickDickey> Got it Fuchs, so for and it would be grep -E "foo&bar" file ?
[00:14] <XiaolinDraconis> oops wrong window
[00:14] <Fuchs> PatrickDickey: no, regular expressions won't work very well there
[00:14] <silentmyst> im glad im not the only one that doesn't quite know :-p
[00:14] <_cronus_> silentmyst, grep -e foo -e bar
[00:15] <michealPW> Okay.. So your log is saying that it's trying to load your ATI/AMD drive, called fglrx but it can't find it.
[00:15] <Fuchs> _cronus_: that would be OR as well as far as I remember
[00:15] <Fuchs> silentmyst: looking for lines containing both, or files?
[00:15] <michealPW> Not sure why that's happenign, let me try and google a couple terms and see what I can come up with. Maybe you'll just have to install the latest version of fglrx, could fix the problem automatically.
[00:16] <silentmyst> i want to search for "brown" AND "fox" in a file how would i write that command
[00:16] <Skeeter_lappy> What does that mean I need to do?
[00:16] <LostyJai> hey guys, I find that quite frequently even though my system is not doing anything, the HDD will spin up
[00:16] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[00:16] <silentmyst> not "brown" OR "fox"
[00:16] <silentmyst> just for example
[00:16] <LostyJai> it's quite annoying... what is the deal?
[00:16] <Fuchs> silentmyst: what should the output be? I mean, if you want lines you can actually work with the above -e brown -e fox,
[00:16] <PatrickDickey> taylor1, you said that when you boot normally it freezes, but when you boot to recovery mode it works, correct?
[00:16] <Fuchs> silentmyst: but if you expect a boolean whether both were in there or not, that won't work
[00:16] <taylor1> yes
[00:17] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Do this: uname -a | pastebinit
[00:17] <Taylor> Ohi
[00:17] <michealPW> The gimmie that link.
[00:17] <taylor1> well sorta, it has to be in that low graphics mode setting
[00:17] <PatrickDickey> taylor1, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[00:17] <taylor1> gtx 550 ti fermi
[00:18] <Skeeter_lappy> 1313985
[00:18] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 are you booted into the low graphics mode right now?
[00:18] <silentmyst> well what i was really looking for instead of using the brown fox example i wanted to search for the words "sudo" and "martin" (martin) being my username to linux on my system in the /var/log/auth.log so it would show me any failed/granted sudo authorizations - but i can't figure out the exact grep command to search for BOTH words
[00:19] <taylor1> ah no. im on a different computer. i can boot in now tho
[00:19] <michealPW> Okay so you're using 64-bit Ubuntu..
[00:19] <Skeeter_lappy> yes
[00:19] <michealPW> Righto, here's a link for the 64-bit fglrx drivers (Video card drivers)
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 when you do get it booted, type dpkg -l nvidia and tell me which driver is installed, please.
[00:19] <michealPW> For you, just a second
[00:19] <taylor1> alright will do
[00:20] <silentmyst> so how would i write the grep command that would find lines containing sudo and martin
[00:21] <jrib> silentmyst: egrep '(sudo|martin)'
[00:21] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K so here's the best way to do it... From your broken machine, type: mkdir ~/fglrx-tmp
[00:21] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Then type cd ~/fglrx-tmp
[00:21] <jrib> silentmyst: erm, that's or.  Do: grep sudo FILE | grep martin
[00:21] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Then type wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip
[00:21] <schmitt9531> I was wondering, is the default ubuntu setup to forward qemu:///session to qemu:///system
[00:21] <michealPW> That will get the fglrx driver package downloading. It's ~100mb so might take a bit of time.
[00:22] <schmitt9531> when I try a qemu usermode connection it keeps wanting to go to the system libvirtd
[00:22] <_cronus_> silentmyst, try this: grep sudo.*martin
[00:22] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 a quick question. Does the computer have a built in graphics card also?
[00:22] <schmitt9531> has anyone gotten qemu usermode to work?
[00:22] <Arizona> hi
[00:22] <Arizona> Taylor: hi I have a problem, uh
[00:23] <Taylor> No
[00:23] <taylor1> oh it doesnt
[00:23] <silentmyst> trying a couple
[00:23] <Arizona> sudo apt-get install runescape_bot.exe won't work
[00:23] <Skeeter_lappy> not letting me make dir
[00:23] <Arizona> :(
[00:23] <Arizona> why Taylor
[00:23] <Arizona> can you explain
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 it doesn't have an integrated graphics card?
[00:24] <taylor1> btw i found it earlier but im mind blanking now... how do i boot from low graphics?
[00:24] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Are you typing exactly as I did? Make sure not to forget the tilde ~
[00:24] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: mkdir ~/fglrx-tmp
[00:24] <taylor1> no it doesnt i dont think...
[00:24] <silentmyst> grep sudo.*martin auth.log   seemed to work
[00:24] <Skeeter_lappy> I put the tilde in
[00:24] <michealPW> Well, what happens when you do that?
[00:24] <silentmyst> so if your search for 2 words in a line you use .*?
[00:24] <michealPW> hehe
[00:25] <thenewui> hello
[00:25] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 it might be in the GRUB menu, under the recovery mode. But, if you're in GRUB, let's try something else instead. highlight the normal mode, and press the "e" key to edit. then add nomodset after quiet splash and boot that.
[00:25] <taylor1> alright
[00:26] <michealPW> Alright well, where it goes doesn't matter..
[00:26] <_cronus_> silentmyst, not exactly. dot means any character and star means 0 or more occurrences
[00:26] <michealPW> Just do this, then... cd ~/Desktop; wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip
[00:26] <michealPW> That will download it directly to your desktop HEH!
[00:27] <PatrickDickey> michealPW: which cards does that work with? Is that the one that won't work with anything older than a HD 5000 series?
[00:27] <taylor1> yayyayayayya it works :DDDDDDD thx man
[00:27] <taylor1> haha fail smiley
[00:27] <PatrickDickey> taylor1: Here's a link for you. If you can get it to boot without that card in the computer, then you'll want to follow the first answer. http://askubuntu.com/questions/167645/ubuntu-12-04-and-nvidia-gtx-550-ti
[00:27] <michealPW> mm, yea it is good point.
[00:28] <michealPW> LOL
[00:28] <taylor1> oh so right now it is runnin without the card?
[00:28] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: lspci | pastebinit
[00:28] <silentmyst> i guess im trying to figure out how to search for more than one word in a file, kind of like when you do a google search and you want to search for example "quick", "brown", "fox" it would web pages that contain those 3 words
[00:29] <PatrickDickey> taylor1: No it's running with the card. It's just running in a different setup on the card. I'm not exactly sure how to explain nomodset though.
[00:29] <silentmyst> so that when you use the grep command it would find lines containing quick, brown, and fox (just for example)
[00:30] <wastrel> silentmyst: you can put a list of keywords in a file and use grep -f list-of-keywords file-to-search
[00:30] <jrib> silentmyst: I just told you how to do it for two
[00:31] <demonfire> dont understand these mini cds how can you get a operating system in 28MB http://brig.co/1e
[00:31] <taylor1> hmm when i logged, i lost internet connection, that happened when running in low graphics earlier too
[00:31] <wastrel> silentmyst: or you can use egrep
[00:32] <wastrel> silentmyst: egrep '(foo|bar|baz)' file-to-search
[00:32] <jrib> silentmyst: I think he wants AND
[00:32] <jrib> wastrel:
[00:32] <wastrel> oic
[00:32] <silentmyst> yea the and
[00:32] <jrib> grep quick FILE | grep brown | grep fox
[00:32] <taylor1> dang, i cant get any internet when runnin like this
[00:33] <silentmyst> got ya jrib thanks
[00:33] <michealPW> hehe jrib I thought I was the only one that piped grep to itself :P
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 play around with the computer for a bit, to see if everything's working correctly. If it is, then edit your grub file and add nomodset permanently.
[00:33] <michealPW> Iunno how else do do those kinds of searches haha
[00:33] <taylor1> alright
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> !grub | taylor1
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> That'll help you to edit the grub files.
[00:34] <skulltip> can a game coded in freebasic be put into the ubuntu software center
[00:34] <gener1c> what if i told you, there is no spoon
[00:34] <silentmyst> well i didn't think that pipelined grep was working... terminator highlights your grep searches and if i did grep quick FILE | grep brown | grep fox it would only highlight the word fox in the returned file making me think it only carried out the final grep command
[00:34] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: What is the output of: lspci | pastebinit
[00:35] <silentmyst> instead of being all inclusive
[00:35] <wastrel> the grep color flag would only work on the last one in the pipeline
[00:35] <Skeeter_lappy> can't get file to dl
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> And taylor1, here's a link that explains what nomodset is doing http://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do
[00:35] <gener1c> hey, i am trying to set the default program to open a certain filetype but i cant find it in the list, what do i do?
[00:35] <Skeeter_lappy> gives me 404 error
[00:35] <silentmyst> wastrel, so it actually is searching all 3?
[00:36] <jrib> silentmyst: can't you just look at the results and observe that?
[00:36] <danon> okay so some how im not longer the owner of the file system
[00:36] <danon> root is
[00:36] <danon> what so i so?
[00:36] <jrib> danon: "the file system" is vague
[00:36] <danon> ?
[00:36] <jrib> danon: be more specific
[00:36]  * Regretfulone has successfully destroyed his Dell Dimension 4300 in trying to move the parts to a new tower. In the process also killed his computer with Ubuntu on it - -
[00:36] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: I overlooked the fact that the link I gave you was for modern ATI cards. It might not be what you need. First, give me the output of: lspci | pastebinit
[00:37] <wastrel> silentmyst: think of it as filtering.  the first grep filters out lines that don't have quick, the second applies a filter for "quick" from the output of the first, the third filters for fox
[00:37] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: That will identify the graphics card you have and I'll know which driver package you need.
[00:37] <PatrickDickey> danon, root needs to be the owner of parts of the file system / and some subdirectories. If you make yourself the owner of everything, you'll be reinstalling.  Trust me, I learned the hard way.
[00:37] <schmitt9531> PatrickDickey: Are you familiar with ubuntu's default setup with qemu+kvm?
[00:37] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Also, the link I gave worked. The 404 must be a typo, I just double-checked.
[00:37] <Skeeter_lappy> 1314026
[00:37] <schmitt9531> I'm having issues with qemu:///session trying to connect to the qemu system libvirt daemon
[00:37] <Guest86054> Hello, I'm looking for some help with my wireless network adapter
[00:37] <danon> im the admin of my computer and now it is saying the premissions of / cant be determined
[00:38] <taylor1> patrick, it seems as if i cannot connect to the internet when i log in thru this nomodeset it might be the fact that it doesnt take input from my little wireless internet reciever. im thinking possiblyy moving this downstairs to a wired connection may work
[00:38] <extropy> can anyone tell me why ubuntu is getting worse instead of better?
[00:38] <silentmyst> jrib, its not so easy in large log files you can cat the original file and side by side compare it but you see so many instances of the words you want to search for, comparing what you want with the original isn't that easy when you want to make sure your getting exactly what you want it to get you
[00:38] <extropy> is my generation running things now?
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> schmitt9531: no, i'm not. I've never actually tried quemu or kvm. I always use third party stuff like Virtualbox or VMWare.
[00:38] <jrib> silentmyst: so create some small toy example so you can understand better
[00:38] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Perfect, so you've got an Radeon HD 6670. So, that link certainly does work. Just double-check that you haven't made a typo. Here it is again, mate:
[00:39] <jrib> !ot | extropy
[00:39] <compaqo> i installed 12.04 on a Compaq Presario 061 PC and i get a black screen whenever  i logoff. that is a major problem. can anyone help me?
[00:39] <jrib> danon: what says that?
[00:39] <jrib> !who | danon
[00:39] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: cd ~/Desktop; wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 as far as I know, the nomodset only affects your video drivers. It's basically telling the kernel to let X control them.
[00:39] <silentmyst> any ways thank you gusy
[00:39] <silentmyst> guys*
[00:40] <danon> how do i get the privileges back on my drive?
[00:40] <michealPW> It's a tricky URL to type, lots of hyphens, periods and underscores. It works though, just double-checked over here.
[00:40] <Ar71k> Does anyone know how to enable a USB wireless network adapter?
[00:40] <Ar71k> im using ubuntu 12.10
[00:40] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> danon, exactly WHICH directories did you lose permissions on?
[00:40] <extropy> why can't ubuntu property charge laptop battery on a laptop that was *DESIGNED TO RUN LINUX* ?
[00:40] <Ar71k> my mistake 12.04
[00:41] <taylor1> alright. hmm. how odd. i had internet when i was back in recovery and could download thru the console but evry time i og in with nomodeset or low graphics i cant get a wireless connection. (btw i have run ubuntu on this computer b4 and i wanted to redo some stuff like partitions)
[00:41] <schmitt9531> extropy: run acpi
[00:41] <PatrickDickey> extropy, as far as I know, the operating system doesn't charge the battery. It might read the state of the battery and report it to you, but the hardware handles that stuff.
[00:41] <schmitt9531> tell me what it says
[00:41] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw is there an underscore b4 the 64.zip
[00:41] <michealPW> Yes
[00:41] <Skeeter_lappy> kk thats my prob
[00:41] <schmitt9531> extropy: I would look at your kernel config, possibly build a custom kernel
[00:42] <michealPW> amd hyphen driver hyphen installer hyphen catalyst hyphen 12 period 10 hyphen x86 period x86 underscore 64 period zip
[00:42] <michealPW> ROFL that's the filename in english ^
[00:42] <danon> the whole file system aparently i mean i can still install programs but i cant write to the file system
[00:42]  * PatrickDickey in American. the hyphens would be dashes. :P :D
[00:43] <michealPW> haha I wasn't sure if I should say hyphen or dash
[00:43] <schmitt9531> michaelPW: in unix we say dash, even though it's a hyphen and not a dash
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> danon, do you mean places like /var /usr/ /bin/? or do you mean places like /home?
[00:43] <omer> Hello
[00:43] <Skeeter_lappy> lol the underscore was hidden bc it shows as a link and its underlinedd on here
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> And danon, is this on a new installation, or did you tweak something?
[00:44] <michealPW> hehe thx schmitt9531 :)
[00:44] <extropy> I did nothing and now ubuntu recognizes that the battery is at 80% why then did it just shut down the entire system over a critically low battery?
[00:44] <omer_> testing
[00:44] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: hah yea
[00:44] <extropy> shutting down my computer for no good reason = the best way to piss me off
[00:44] <michealPW> Btw, anyone know what's up with this? It's in Skeeter's log: (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:44] <danon> i think i fixed it it might just be the way ubuntu has permissions set up and i went back to classic gnome
[00:44] <michealPW> Why would his fglrx object all of a sudden not exist? :\
[00:44] <King_Ozzy> Getting angry at it always fixes it more quickly.
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> extropy, How do you know it was a battery read issue?
[00:45] <michealPW> He said it happened after running Janitor.. :\
[00:45] <danon> gnome session rollback
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> danon, there are certain things in any linux system that you're not supposed to be able to touch without either being root (or sudo).
[00:45] <pouncerkitsune> i have a ? if i end up putting 12.10 on my computer and i have a cd of Ultimate edition 3.4 can i install programs off of that cd instead of the net because my net sucks balls
[00:45] <michealPW> For good reason, too! :)
[00:45] <extropy> how do I know? the warning that says 'battery critically low" before shutting itself down automatically was probably my first hint ... what are you asking exactly?
[00:46] <omerozkan> Hello, how are you?
[00:46] <schmitt9531> extropy: run acpi
[00:46] <schmitt9531> what does it say
[00:46] <socialbug> hello
[00:46] <schmitt9531> extropy: I guess this is the ubuntu channel so you guys all have your fancy desktops, open your terminal and run acpi
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> extropy, Just what I asked, we never really know on the channel everything that happened or what a users knows.
[00:47] <extropy> well since acpi doesn't appear to be part of ubuntu's default install it says "run apt-get install apci" ...
[00:47] <schmitt9531> so do it
[00:47] <raptastics> lol
[00:47] <schmitt9531> you need acpi support to manage battery life
[00:47] <const_antine> Hi, I have a problem setting up nfs share
[00:47] <const_antine> here's what syslog says: Oct 28 20:41:33 firaya-desktop mountd[4986]: refused mount request from <IP_ADDRESS> for /home/firaya (/home/firaya): unmatched host
[00:48] <const_antine> this is what /etc/exports says:
[00:48] <const_antine> /home/firaya    /192.168.1.*(rw,fsid=0,sync,no_subtree_check)
[00:48] <const_antine> everything looks legit, no?
[00:48] <silentmyst> i dual boot ubuntu and win 7, lately starting in linux i've been getting the message that there is an error mounting my windows partition upon start up but it continues to start fine. I've remounted the partition a few times in root which works just fine, however, i get the error message again the next time i start ubuntu - any ideas?
[00:48] <PatrickDickey> danon, here's a little light research for you to look at http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=what%20does%20root%20need%20to%20own%20in%20a%20linux%20filesystem&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=4fa257fccf8e3a83&bpcl=35466521&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1393&bih=796 Hopefully one of these links will tell you which directories root should own, and which ones you should own. As long
[00:48] <PatrickDickey>  as you own what you should, and root owns what it should, you're fine.
[00:48] <michealPW> Anyone have thoughts on this failed Xorg logfile? it's dropping down to a shell paste.ubuntu.com/1313985/
[00:49] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw got it
[00:49] <extropy> if I need acpi to manage my battery life then why isn't it part of ubuntu's default install and why does ubuntu think it knows how much of a charge is in my battery?
[00:49] <michealPW> K, downloaded or still downloading?
[00:49] <PatrickDickey> michealPW: It sounds like the janitor removed a compiled file that's required.   I think they have the acpi module loaded in their initramfs kernel
[00:50] <silentmyst> its a single drive to partitions instead of 2 separate drives spinning up at diff speeds
[00:50] <silentmyst> two partitions8
[00:50] <silentmyst> *
[00:51] <extropy> "rate information unavailable" ... well ... that's just swell
[00:51] <schmitt9531> extropy: in all operating systems you have to worry about drivers and their configurations, I would look up your specs
[00:51] <michealPW> Righto, unzip it type gunzip amd- and press tab to finish teh rest of the filename
[00:51] <michealPW> Then just hit enter
[00:51] <schmitt9531> extropy: what laptop are you using
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> pouncerkitsune: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159341/how-to-install-ubuntu-from-desktop-w-o-internet-access might be a good start.
[00:52] <extropy> ASUS EeePC ... these things shipped with Linux on them
[00:52] <schmitt9531> did it ship with your current setup?
[00:52] <schmitt9531> or did you install ubuntu on it?
[00:52] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Righto, unzip it type gunzip amd- and press tab to finish the rest of the filename.
[00:52] <Skeeter_lappy> tab didn't complete it
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> I'm sorry silentmyst, I'm clueless then. Normally I see that when I have two or more drives.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> pouncerkitsune, First that is a bad idea second 3.4 is based in precise this is not even supported on this channel.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> on*
[00:53] <extropy> I've been running 12.04 for months without issue
[00:53] <extropy> now mysteriously it doesn't like my battery anymore
[00:53] <schmitt9531> eww
[00:53] <pouncerkitsune> thanks PatrickDickey
[00:53] <schmitt9531> that may be a hardware issue
[00:53] <schmitt9531> call your manufacturer
[00:53] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Wait my bad, you have to type it like this: gunzip ./amd-
[00:53] <schmitt9531> try to boot off a livecd and see if it charges
[00:54] <michealPW> Then tab. The ./ tells it to look in your current working directory. It should autocomplete when you press tab after typing amd-
[00:54] <Skeeter_lappy> still no go
[00:54] <silentmyst> yea im not too sure either, used to work just fine. I remount the partitions with shell and everything works fine then gives me the error next start up... just annoying to keep remounting to view files in my win partition
[00:55] <michealPW> Well that doesn't make sense LOL
[00:55] <michealPW> Type ls -al
[00:55] <michealPW> Do you see the file in the list?
[00:56] <dougbb> When I installed 12.10, at boot and shutdown there was a nice graphical screen that "covered" the rc printouts ... now that I've installed some stuff that nice graphic has gone away, instead it say "Ubuntu 12.10" with some dots under it ... how do I get the nice graphic back?
[00:56] <Skeeter_lappy> no list to long lol
[00:56] <pouncerkitsune> wilee-nilee why is that a bad idea and  i know that UE 3.4 is not supported by ubuntu its just easer for me to get the all the software i need that way instead of downloading i use sat net so its extreamly slow and very unreliable
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> pouncerkitsune: no problem.
[00:56] <schmitt9531> Skeeter_lappy: have you used qemu-kvm in ubuntu
[00:56] <michealPW> hah, k, try just ls -l
[00:57] <schmitt9531> trying to figure out the default setup on why when I do a qemu+ssh to session it moves me to system
[00:57] <michealPW> If it's still too long, use ls -l | more
[00:57] <dougbb> oh, I'm using xubuntu 12.10 in case it matters, but the same thing happened to me previously with "regular" ubuntu
[00:57] <williamlahue> anyone having issues with 64bit install boot on newer macs?
[00:57] <Skeeter_lappy> no I don't see it
[00:57] <michealPW> Ack
[00:57] <Skeeter_lappy> but I don't think I'm in the desktop dir
[00:57] <michealPW> So try cd ~/Desktop
[00:58] <michealPW> Then ls -l
[00:58] <socialbug> Can anybody here recommend a good book or tutorial on how to structure a gui app?
[00:58] <socialbug> using python
[00:58] <williamlahue> will blessing disk0s1 allow grub to boot? 64bit is dead on mini
[00:59] <williamlahue> ace is 2a ambug, yue
[00:59] <const_antine> any ideas reg. that nfs mount?
[00:59] <Skeeter_lappy> it's not there
[00:59] <const_antine> I tried restarting portmap, nfs server
[01:00] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Try find / -name amd-*
[01:00] <michealPW> LMAO it's got to be there somewhere :)
[01:00] <michealPW> Actually, do it with sudo
[01:00] <michealPW> else you'll get a bunch of permission denied errors hehe
[01:00] <michealPW> sudo find / -name amd-*
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, what you're seeing now is the normal ubuntu screen.  Meh. Maybe for all the time it took as to get tab autocompletion figured out you could have just typed it hahaha
[01:03] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:05] <Hokar> how can i disable hibernate
[01:05] <michealPW> Hokar: Press your Windows key, type Power and press enter
[01:06] <hilo> hi
[01:06] <pouncerkitsune> wilee-nilee: why is that a bad idea
[01:06] <dougbb> PatrickDickey: hrrmm..  I'm reading that link and it looks promising ... could my changing GRUB_GFXMODE have caused the issue I'm seeing now?
[01:06] <Skeeter_lappy> it said no such file or dir
[01:06] <Skeeter_lappy> it did complete the file name though
[01:06] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:06] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, possibly.
[01:07] <michealPW> hrmm
[01:08] <michealPW> Try just unzip ./amd-TAB
[01:08] <michealPW> Instead of gunzip LOL
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, you could try rebooting, and at the GRUB menu, press the "e" key. Then remove quiet from the command line, and see if that gives you what you want.
[01:08] <Hokar> michealPW, im running lubuntu. so no search there ;D
[01:08] <dougbb> well what I want is quiet :)
[01:08] <michealPW> Hokar: Hah, sorry. I'm not familiar with LXDE mate.
[01:08] <dougbb> I don't need to see the rc stuff
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, then add that bac, into the command line.
[01:09] <dougbb> it's there now, which is confusing
[01:09] <Skeeter_lappy> ok it unzipped
[01:09] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: yay!
[01:09] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:09] <RJ45> I've joined this chan before to ask for help, and always got the lousiest response, please be more helpful with this problem...
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> Hokar, if you're trying to get to the Power Settings, It's probably under Settings (or Settings Manager).
[01:09] <RJ45> Rhythmbox keeps crashing, like, every 10 mins or so, but only when playing FLACs, why?, and how do I stop this?
[01:09] <dougbb> PatrickDickey: linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic root=UUID=e1f5735a-1d8c-4b6d-a2c2-2dfea2731ce4 ro   quiet splash $vt_handoff
[01:10] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Right, now for the fun part. There's a bunch of things you need to make sure are installed. Here's a complete list of everything, apt-get will toss-out whatever is already installed:
[01:10] <RJ45> Ubuntu 10.04, and not gonna change.
[01:10] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs dh-make dkms execstack dh-modaliases fakeroot libqtgui4 ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 lib32gcc1 libc6-i386 ia32-libs
[01:10] <Hokar> PatrickDickey, there is no option to disable hibernate in the gui
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, Did you update grub when you changed it?
[01:10] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: yes, I ran 'update-grub' after I changed GRUB_GFXMODE
[01:11] <dougbb> I wanted the larger size text
[01:11] <zombik> hi! How would one find out the capabilities (sample rate,sample width, etc.) of the devices listed by "arecord -L"?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, You did this in /etc/default/grub
[01:11] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: yes
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> cool I wasn't following completely
[01:12] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: thanks anyway ....I'm also wondering why the same thing is happening at shutdown too, would that be grub-related also?
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> RJ45, this might help you. It's a bit old, but it might still be applicable. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888054
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, I haven't followed all your posts.
[01:14] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: When I installed xubuntu 12.10, at boot and shutdown there was a nice graphical screen that "covered" the rc printouts ... now that I've installed some stuff that nice graphic has gone away, instead it say "Ubuntu 12.10" with some dots under it ... how do I get the nice graphic back?
[01:14] <PatrickDickey> Hokar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143050/disable-suspend-hibernate-via-the-policykit might help. Or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9346060
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, What is that some stuff?
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> wilee-nilee: dougbb is getting the text along with the graphics (the boot and shutdown text), and just wants the graphics only (the ubuntu logo with the dots).
[01:15] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: lots of programs, anything in particular you think I should look at?
[01:16] <pouncerkitsune> wilee-nilee: what where you talking about it beeing a bad idea earlyer
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, Not for me I doubt I could figure it out to be honest, but any theme installations come to mind as a guess.
[01:17] <RJ45> PatrickDickey: thanks but that didn't really help at all.
[01:17] <dougbb> no, no themes
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> Sorry RJ45. That's the best I could come up with on short notice. Bascially I googled rhythmbox doesn't play flac files ubuntu.
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, If you think it is grub you can purge it and reinstall it easily from the desktop.
[01:17] <RJ45> I have both FLAC encoder, decoder and FLAC-tools instaled.
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, I think the splash screen that you originally saw is what Canonical put on their LiveCD's. The one you see now, is the default splash screen.
[01:18] <RJ45> I raked google, found nothing, came here.
[01:18] <michealPW> dougbb: I think what you're talking about is a splash screen...
[01:18] <dougbb> PatrickDickey: I have a laptop that has the same version of ubuntu on it, and it has just the graphical screen, not the text + dots version
[01:18] <michealPW> dougbb: Depending on which distribution of Ubuntu you install, you'll get a different splash screen. I originally installed Ubuntu 12.04 and had one, somewhere along the lines I installed Edubuntu and it replaced the splash screen.. Is this what you're talking about?
[01:18] <dougbb> michealPW: I'm sure you're right
[01:19] <michealPW> You can change it to whatever you want, too, as far as I know.
[01:19] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw gave me error unable to locate is32-libs-multiarch:i386
[01:19] <dougbb> no.... it's not that
[01:19] <Jordan_U> dougbb: Have you installed proprietary graphics drivers? They don't support Kernel Mode Setting, which is required for a fancy plymouth boot screen.
[01:19] <dougbb> Jordan_U: ah ... yes, I've installed the nvidia driver
[01:19] <Skeeter_lappy> all else completed
[01:19] <Jordan_U> dougbb: Then that's what did it.
[01:19] <dougbb> d'oh
[01:19] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Alright, just press the up arrow on your keyboard to bring that entire list up again and use the left-right arrows to move your cursor over and delete that item from the list
[01:20] <michealPW> Oh nvm
[01:20] <michealPW> hehe
[01:20] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:20] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K, so now the last thing you need to do is make a link so that fglrx can be found easily. Type this in exactly: cd /usr ; sudo ln -svT lib /usr/lib64
[01:20] <michealPW> Well almost the last thing ^
[01:21] <dougbb> Jordan_U: ok .... so the theory is that if I remove the nvidia driver, I should get that plymouth screen back?
[01:21] <pouncerkitsune> i have a ? if i end up putting 12.10 on my computer and i have a cd of Ultimate edition 3.4 can i install programs off of that cd instead of the net because my net sucks balls
[01:21] <Hokar> michealPW, PatrickDickey http://askubuntu.com/questions/93542/how-to-disable-shutdown-reboot-suspend-hibernate solved the issue. menu entry still showing but getting a error when trying
[01:22] <Sly> Does anyone know why Ubuntu would be refusing to start on an ASUS Q500A? Can't get anything out of it to show why it's not starting.
[01:22] <Skeeter_lappy> ok
[01:23] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Okay.. Now, almost the last thing. Type this and finish it with a TAB: cd ~/; sudo chmod +x ./amd-
[01:23] <pouncerkitsune> is it a freash install Sly
[01:23] <michealPW> It's two commands. First you switch directories to your home (~/ is a short-form of /home/currentusername/, btw) and then you add execute permissions to the AMD fglrx installer (chmod +x)
[01:24] <Sly> pouncerkitsune: that's the thing. I can't get it to boot into trying Ubuntu, so I haven't tried to install it because I'm not sure if it's a system incompatibility.
[01:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Why exactly is the amd driver family called fglrx?
[01:24] <dougbb> So if I delete nvidia-current, my system should go back to using nouveau, right?
[01:24] <pouncerkitsune> do you get to the screen that sais ubuntu and it does nothing afterwarss
[01:24] <pouncerkitsune> afterwords
[01:25] <Sly> pouncerkitsune: I never see "Ubuntu" or the logo. I get to a screen where it asks if I want to try ubuntu, install ubuntu, OEM install, or check the disk.
[01:25] <Sly> I've tried "noacpi", "nolapci", "acpi=off", and removed "quite splash --" from the boot options. Nothing. DVD spins up, goes to a black screen, and then the DVD spins back down and stops.
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Sly, that's the boot screen for the Live CD. You either want to "Try" if you aren't ready for installing, or "Install" if you're ready to install.
[01:26] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: is it a laptop or  desktop
[01:26] <Sly> Laptop, pouncerkitsune.
[01:26] <Sly> ASUS Q500A
[01:26] <Sly> PatrickDickey: Yeah, I already know that. Trying to figure out why it won't boot with "Try".
[01:26] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: and what version are you trying to install
[01:26] <Sly> 12.10
[01:26] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Once you've done that, you need to run the fglrx installer: sudo sh ./amd-TAB --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise
[01:27] <moes> Sly, cd/dvd/orusb
[01:28] <Sly> DVD-RW
[01:28] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: the only thing i can think of that has made that happen to me is hadware conflict like if i put my wifi card in my desktop it wont let me istall or do anything with ubuntu wont even let it come up thats the only think i can say with my experiance
[01:28] <dougbb> ok, wish me luck :)
[01:28] <moes> sly did you md5sum
[01:29] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: try taking your HD and see if it boots the live cd
[01:29] <pouncerkitsune> out was suppose to be in there somewhere sorry my meds make me a shitty typer lol
[01:31] <silentmyst> one last stupid question for tonight, how do you get grep to search for a word that contains a character such as =   such as looking for user=sudo   or  user=root  or what ever user you want to look for in a log file
[01:31] <MaisonNotarathed> hey, am using IDJC & the microphone is not being recognized in the stream... looking for help
[01:31] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, could anyone suggest the best FTP client that I can use for Ubuntu that allows for scheduling for bandwidth throttling & parallel transfer settings?
[01:31] <Sly> moes: md5sum looks fine.
[01:32] <snark> anyone know a smallish app for viewing MS docx files?
[01:32] <silentmyst> in the log file they are written with out spaces so its essentially written as 1 word, but the = seems to break the command if you did "grep user=root FILENAME"
[01:32] <schmitt9531> snark: google docs
[01:33] <michealPW> I think you need to escape the equals sign, silentmyst ?
[01:33] <Sly> moes: I'm wondering if this computer is a little new, and it hasn't been developed for yet. I noticed when I was looking at all of the documentation for it, it seemed that it was all being updated pretty recently.
[01:33] <michealPW> Iunno hehe
[01:33] <snark> schmitt9531, what about offline voewing?
[01:33] <snark> schmitt9531, what about offline vi*ewing?
[01:33] <MaisonNotarathed> anybody in here use IDJC or is there a IDJC channel or something?
[01:34] <silentmyst> michealpw, you mean \ it?
[01:34] <silentmyst> not quite sure what you mean
[01:34] <michealPW> silentmyst: Yes, maybe that will work? Is it \ or / ? hehe
[01:34] <michealPW> I think you're right, \
[01:34] <michealPW> Try grep user\=root FILENAME
[01:35] <michealPW> I'm just guessing, I'm not an expert heehee sorry.
[01:35] <silentmyst> still didn't work
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> silentmyst: if the actual entry says user = root, then you need user\ =\ root
[01:36] <silentmyst> i know, i tried that... but... it didn't work cause it is written with no spaces
[01:36] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw keeps telling me can not open
[01:37] <PatrickDickey> then it should just be user=root
[01:37] <jsimonfm> hi, hopefully someone has an idea for my problem: i have a proprietary software here, which can change the network settings (e.g. ip address) of the system, when it is runned by root. When i run it as a normal user, it is not able to change it. I tried to change the access rights of things like ifconfig, but i didn'succeed. Has anybody an idea?
[01:37] <silentmyst> yea see its a line like this Oct 28 18:57:50 Linux sudo: pam_unix(sudo:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=0 tty=/dev/pts/0 ruser=martin rhost=  user=martin
[01:38] <silentmyst> so i just grep authentication - but out of curiousity wondering how to search for "user=martin"
[01:38] <snark> jsimonfm, what about sudo  mycommand
[01:38] <silentmyst> if you grep user=martin it doesn't work though its in the line
[01:38] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Well, wait. Which command gives you the error? hehe
[01:38] <silentmyst> so im guessing = breaks the grep command even though there is no spaces
[01:38] <Skeeter_lappy> sudo sh
[01:38] <michealPW> kk
[01:38] <dislo> hey guys how do i force a cpu frequency on a laptop on ac power
[01:39] <jsimonfm> snark: i want to run the software as user
[01:39] <michealPW> When you type sh ./amd- and press tab does it complete the filename?
[01:39] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, could anyone suggest the best FTP client that I can use for Ubuntu that allows for scheduling for bandwidth throttling & parallel transfer settings?
[01:39] <Skeeter_lappy> all but the ext
[01:39] <michealPW> Oh okay, so then type .run for the ext
[01:39] <michealPW> Then a space, then --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise
[01:40] <bellmajill> hello
[01:40] <Skeeter_lappy> the ext when it was unzip was run
[01:40] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[01:40] <snark> jsimonfm,    at a guess  I thin networking tols can only be run as root --   but sudo allows users to run *the  program* as if they were root
[01:40] <MaisonNotarathed> does anybody in here do any online streaming or DJing?
[01:40] <snark> jsimonfm,    at a guess  I think networking tools can only be run as root --   but sudo allows users to run *the  program* as if they were root
[01:40] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Sorry, I should have warned you. Tab will stop if there's more than one file. Now there's a .zip and a .run heehee so it didn't fill the extension :)
[01:40] <h00k> SpecialEd: I don't know about scheduling throttling, but maybe gftp will
[01:40] <MaisonNotarathed> am having problems with IDJC... it's not recognizing my microphone
[01:40] <silentmyst> patrickdickey?
[01:41] <h00k> MaisonNotarathed: does your microphone work with any other application?
[01:41] <MaisonNotarathed> h00k, not certain man
[01:42] <MaisonNotarathed> the microphone makes sound on the speakers
[01:42] <h00k> MaisonNotarathed: I'd give it a shot, open your sound preferences and see if it's registering any input there
[01:42] <MaisonNotarathed> though it doesn't work over the stream for some reason
[01:42] <jsimonfm> snark: that's right, but when i change the access rights of the networking tools, also an user can run it. i think i haven't found the right tool, as i don't know, which the software uses
[01:42] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw got an error
[01:42] <MaisonNotarathed> yeah h00k, it registers input & output
[01:43] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Hrmm, was it a big error? Try pressing your up arrow to get the command back and add: | pastebinit to the end
[01:43] <Sly> moes: I think I was right about it being pretty new. The CPU it's using was released in Q2 of this year. Probably just throw it in a virtualbox until it's supported natively.
[01:43] <michealPW> To pipe the output to pastebinit, then I can read what it says :P
[01:43] <snark> jsimonfm, one shouldnt really change permissions   thats what sudo is for and its much safer to use sudo
[01:44] <jsimonfm> snark: It's an ubuntu minimal installation, and this device should only run this one programm
[01:44] <michealPW> So the whole command will look like sudo sh ./amd-driver-linux-8xxx-etc.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise | pastebinit
[01:45] <Skeeter_lappy> 1314119
[01:45] <dougbb> Ok, that was partially successful :)
[01:45] <snark> jsimonfm, can I ask what your trying to achieve?
[01:45] <dougbb> no splash screen at boot, but it's back on shutdown now ... I'm going to try without the 640x480 and see if that fixes the boot ... at least now it's a blank screen, instead of ugly text
[01:46] <dougbb> so anyone knowledgeable about ubuntu + compiz?  I installed compiz, and everything is working well except the disappearing panel I had on the side of my screen, it won't reappear
[01:47] <michealPW> Hrmm
[01:47] <michealPW> Well that's upsetting.
[01:47] <michealPW> Unable to resolve  dh-modaliases execstack.  Please manually install and try again.
[01:47] <michealPW> :|
[01:47] <dougbb> the panel on the top, which is also set to disappear, works fine
[01:47] <Skeeter_lappy> :(
[01:48] <Skeeter_lappy> brb 1 sec
[01:48] <jsimonfm> snark: What i'm working on is this: a device that boots into an minimal Ubuntu with X and openbox, the software is autostarted and should be the only thing, the device is running
[01:48] <michealPW> Oh wait
[01:49] <michealPW> So according to a few forum posts, that's because you already have fglrx installed, or a broken fglrx installed. First we need to completely remove fglrx from the system then run that script again and people have replied that that works.
[01:49] <snark> jsimonfm,  and what *software* is this?
[01:49] <michealPW> SO! Ready to remove fglrx? Let me know when you're back, Skeeter_lappy.
[01:49] <jsimonfm> snark: My last problem is this network setting issue, anything else works
[01:49] <dougbb> I also have a dmraid question ... I have a hardware raid that shows up fine, and works well, but sometimes it's /dev/dm-0, and sometimes it's /dev/dm-1 ... any way to lock it down?
[01:49] <|Anthony|> how do i get clamtk to quarantine files? it has a quarantine view, but no option to automatically quarantine files it finds
[01:50] <Skeeter_lappy> back
[01:50] <jsimonfm> snark: It's an control software for an lighting control console
[01:50] <michealPW> kk
[01:51] <|Anthony|> clamscan has a --move=dir cli option. but i don't see that implemented in clamtk
[01:51] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[01:51] <snark> jsimonfm, and what network setting is it trying to set?
[01:52] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: That will completely remove fglrx. Then use your up arrow, press it about 2 times to get that sudo sh ./amd-driver-installer-8.xxx.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise from the command history :P
[01:52] <|Anthony|> nm
[01:53] <snark> jsimonfm, and what is a "lighting control console"?
[01:53] <jsimonfm> snark: acually the normal ones like for eth0 on the ubuntu box, it is used for some light control protocols
[01:54] <Skeeter_lappy> swame thing
[01:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo> so, as dumb as it sounds, how come the AMD/ATI graphics driver family is call fglrx?
[01:54] <Skeeter_lappy> same*
[01:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh wait, nvm
[01:55] <hmmwhatsthisdo> FireGL and Radeon for X, apparently
[01:55] <jsimonfm> snark: a controller for lamps in theaters for example: http://chamsys.co.uk/products
[01:55] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Even after purging fglrx? :\
[01:55] <snark> jsimonfm, ok that make s a bit more sense to me!
[01:56] <Skeeter_lappy> typed exactly what you put in
[01:56] <dougbb> interesting, if I put the disappearing panel horizontal, it works
[01:57] <michealPW> I have an idea, hehe
[01:57] <michealPW> try sudo apt-get install execstack
[01:57] <michealPW> hehe
[01:57] <con-man> anyone know of an app for burning mkv files to a DVD disc that can be played in a regular DVD player?
[01:58] <michealPW> If that finds and installs something, then try the sudo sh command again (Should be up arrow twice)
[01:59] <Skeeter_lappy> same thing
[01:59] <Skeeter_lappy> it did install execstack
[02:00] <michealPW> It found and installed it? Hrmm!
[02:00] <michealPW> Try sudo apt-get install dh-modaliases
[02:00] <Skeeter_lappy> it pauses at unable to resolve dh_modaliases
[02:00] <bazhang> con-man, perhaps devede
[02:00] <snark> con-man, mkv are just normal files as far as the dvd burner is concerned    no?
[02:00] <con-man> yeah google suggested devede installing now
[02:01] <dougbb> I have a dmraid question ... I have a hardware raid that shows up fine, and works well, but sometimes it's /dev/dm-0, and sometimes it's /dev/dm-1 ... any way to lock it down?
[02:02] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: If it finds and installs dh-modaliases try this, 'cause we must have missed a step hehe: sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs dh-make dkms fakeroot
[02:03] <Skeeter_lappy> we put that in there
[02:03] <Skeeter_lappy> it's sitting at generating package
[02:03] <michealPW> I thought we did, but dunno why it would have installed execstack hehe should have been in there too with dh-modaliases
[02:04] <Skeeter_lappy> I think everything went this time
[02:05] <michealPW> So try that sudo sh command one more time
[02:05] <Skeeter_lappy> generateds 3 pkg and removed temp dir
[02:05] <michealPW> And see if it doesn't throw the same exception about dh-modaliases and execstack hehe
[02:05] <michealPW> Oh sweet, good. So now you're almost done.
[02:06] <Skeeter_lappy> hang on I just ran the sudo again for ya
[02:06] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[02:06] <michealPW> So, now type sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
[02:06] <michealPW> That will install the 3 pkgs it built, which is your fglrx. I thought there was 4, though?
[02:06] <michealPW> Meh
[02:07] <Preflex> who
[02:07] <michealPW> Maybe it's just 3
[02:07] <michealPW> Yea I guess that makes sense. There's the control center, the kernel module and the other thingy
[02:09] <Skeeter_lappy> looks like that went with no errors
[02:09] <michealPW> Excellent. Now type this: sudo amdconfig --initial -f
[02:09] <Skeeter_lappy> wait
[02:09] <michealPW> ?
[02:10] <bearly230> Hello, all I have what I hope is an easy fix question. I have a centos server with a group made, and users added to the group.  But my ubuntu 12.04 desktop clients can't access the folder over nfs. Any sugestions?
[02:10] <Skeeter_lappy> errors were encountered while processing: fglrx-installer_9.002-ounbuntu1_amd64.changes
[02:11] <michealPW> Hrmm
[02:11] <Skeeter_lappy> o=0
[02:11] <michealPW> Try sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <Skeeter_lappy> reading package lists done
[02:12] <michealPW> It didn't complain about any broken packages or anything?
[02:12] <Jisawesome2> Run it again
[02:12] <michealPW> Or sudo apt-get check
[02:12] <Skeeter_lappy> no
[02:13] <Skeeter_lappy> no complaints
[02:13] <michealPW> k, then do sudo amdconfig --initial -f
[02:13] <Jisawesome2> Try the command again skeeter
[02:13] <Skeeter_lappy> which cmd?
[02:14] <Jisawesome2> The one that returned the error
[02:14] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:14] <michealPW> Oh the dpkg, yea run that again actually. Wont hurt. Dpkg can't handle dependencies so if it selected those packages in the wrong order it might have failed to intsall one. Runnign the command again will select and install whichever one got left behind.
[02:15] <michealPW> Good catch,  Jisawesome2:)
[02:16] <Skeeter_lappy> same error
[02:16] <bearly230> Hello, all I have what I hope is an easy fix question. I have a centos server with a group made, and users added to the group.  But my ubuntu 12.04 desktop clients can't access the folder over nfs. Any sugestions?
[02:17] <michealPW> hrmm
[02:17] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Maybe we have better luck with aptitude? Try sudo apt-get install aptitude
[02:17] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:18] <OerHeks> carefull with aptitude & 64 bit
[02:18] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[02:18] <michealPW> Really? :(
[02:18] <chronik-rootz> http://imgur.com/PnIDY    done, wooot.
[02:18] <onitaL> bearly230, can ubuntu ping the server? what's the fstab line for that nfs mount?
[02:18] <OerHeks> "apt-get install -f " will force broken packages
[02:18] <michealPW> Hrmm, thx OerHeks. He's getting errors using dpkg to install the fglrx .deb he built with amd's fglrx installer. How should we get it in? :\
[02:19] <bearly230> onitaL: I can get to the server however I can't get into the folder owned by the group.
[02:19] <bearly230> onitaL: IE I can get into my personal folder on the centos server but, not allowed to get into the other folder.
[02:19] <michealPW> Ah, k. So he should just do apt-get install -f to fix that broken package?
[02:20] <Skeeter_lappy> ??
[02:20] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K so aptitude has problems with 64-bit. If you did install it, remove it with sudo apt-get remove aptitude. OerHeks says you can fix that error with sudo apt-get install -f
[02:20] <Skeeter_lappy> didn't install it
[02:20] <michealPW> K, so just type sudo apt-get install -f
[02:20] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:21] <onitaL> oh, what's the permises of that folder, bearly230 ?   ls -la /that/folder/
[02:21] <onitaL> +in the server
[02:21] <KM0201> why would you force install a package?  if it won't install w/o -f  investigate way
[02:21] <KM0201> *why
[02:21] <onitaL> ya, "-f" isn't force, but fix
[02:21] <Skeeter_lappy> it did't upgrade install or remove anything
[02:21] <bearly230> onitaL: I've got the same uid on both server and client. The folder has write/read/execute for all group members.
[02:21] <KM0201> hmm, i thought it was force.. ok.
[02:21] <onitaL> you're not using jedi power there yet
[02:22] <michealPW> Hrmm, well..
[02:22] <michealPW> *thinks*
[02:22] <michealPW> Well lets see if it's working, anyways hehe..
[02:22] <michealPW> Do: sudo amdconfig --initial -f
[02:22] <|Anthony|> why is my firefox making several connections to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:22] <michealPW> Then type startx
[02:22] <i3luefire> how can i make a couple of cmds run every time i restart my server?
[02:23] <xenome> if I wanted to restart network manager, is there any way to truly do that w/o rebooting?  Once I loose the network manager widget in my menubar, I never seem capable of getting it back
[02:24] <Skeeter_lappy> S**T errors
[02:24] <michealPW> Errors from amdconfig, or startx?
[02:24] <Skeeter_lappy> startx
[02:24] <michealPW> What did X say?
[02:25] <michealPW> Try fglrxinfo
[02:25] <Skeeter_lappy> a lot
[02:25] <Skeeter_lappy> lmao
[02:25] <michealPW> LOL k, just do fglrxinfo | pastebinit
[02:25] <dougbb> i3luefire: /etc/rc.local
[02:25] <michealPW> Then startx | pastebinit
[02:25] <michealPW> hehe
[02:25] <rald> why mini ubuntu iso hardy heron doesn't work any more?
[02:25] <norwack> How can  update my Ralink rt2800pci wireless card with the latest drivers? or where can i find the source of the driver?
[02:26] <Skeeter_lappy> fglrxinfo is empty doc
[02:26] <onitaL> !nfs
[02:26] <michealPW> hah
[02:27] <michealPW> Well, I'm guessing fglrx didn't get installed, hense the error. fiddle sticks!
[02:27] <michealPW> Darnit! LOL :(
[02:27] <Skeeter_lappy> both say empty doc
[02:27] <michealPW> That's weird!
[02:27] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[02:27] <michealPW> Maybe I did that wrong for startx
[02:27] <michealPW> Maybe you'd use startx >> pastebinit
[02:27] <michealPW> ?
[02:27] <bearly230> onitaL: permissions on folder are drwx------.  4 ksradmin ksradmin  4096 Oct 28 18:57 ksradmin
[02:28] <onitaL> bearly230, ahhh, it has 0 as group permission
[02:28] <michealPW> I guess you could just cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[02:28] <michealPW> HEEHEE!
[02:28] <bearly230> onitaL: yep I see that now. Getting late here hehe
[02:28] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K, so just do cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[02:28] <onitaL> no problem, it's been a while since I used nfs. I use samba
[02:29] <kevin^> hi all. is there a way i can copy my file system from one drive to another?
[02:29] <michealPW> kevin^: dd
[02:29] <rald> does ubuntu have floppy installer?
[02:29] <michealPW> kevin^: From a terminal, type man dd
[02:29] <onitaL> and I thought it had to do with /etc/host.export or something lke that, but also thought the permises were wrong
[02:29] <steven-> rald, i don't think so ; )
[02:29] <michealPW> rald: Almost certainly no. Floppy's are extremely small. You could put something like Debian's netinst on a floppy, but that's not Ubuntu heehee!
[02:30] <kevin^> michealPW: the destination partition is smaller than the source partition, but the actual disk usage isn't. would that still work? basically, moving my root partition from a 500gb partition to a 40gig SSD partition...
[02:30] <LOrdNAXO> hola
[02:30] <steven-> michealPW, i even doubt that ubuntu netinst will fit on a floppy :P
[02:30] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw 1314195
[02:30] <kevin^> but only has ~15gb usage
[02:30] <michealPW> netinst is just basically enough to get the system up and running and downloading the rest of teh required stuff heehee. I'm not even sure if you can get netinst on a floppy, though :\
[02:30] <LOrdNAXO> alguien de Chile por estos lados??
[02:30] <michealPW> steven-: haha you're probably right.
[02:30] <bearly230> onitaL: got permissions changed on server folder guess I have to restart client to get it to update.
[02:30] <michealPW> k, thx Skeeter_lappy. Lets see if I can figure this out :| http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314195
[02:31] <onitaL> bearly230, I dont' think so
[02:31] <kevin^> hrrrm gonna try something.
[02:31] <steven-> lol, i meant debian netinst, now i messed it up, well I guess you've got it anyway
[02:31] <michealPW> [  8506.151] (EE) fglrx(0): The graphics processor is already set to console mode, set X mode fail. Cannot start X.
[02:32] <michealPW> Oh hey, that doesn't sound like a very bad error.. Try just restarting the computer, Skeeter_lappy.
[02:32] <bearly230> onitaL: still showing locked with permissions drwxrwx---.  4 ksradmin ksradmin  4096 Oct 28 18:57 ksradmin
[02:32] <rald> ok thanks
[02:32] <michealPW> Maybe the old, broken X is still running, preventing startx from working... Well, I hope anyways haha 'cause I'm out of ideas mate :(
[02:32] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:32] <onitaL> bearly230, how are you mouting?
[02:33] <bearly230> onitaL: via fstab
[02:33] <onitaL> what's the line?
[02:33] <onitaL> can you mount from CLI?
[02:33] <Norwack> Hello. I have uses with my wifi signal strength. I have the Ralink rt2800pci. Any ideas?
[02:33] <chatdenfer> Anyone know if Unity supports zsh/bash/emacs move point command?
[02:33] <steven-> mounting what?
[02:33] <bearly230> onitaL: serv1:/home   /media/serv1    nfs defaults 0 0
[02:33] <steven-> mount /dev/sdx /media/mountpoint
[02:34] <Preflex> generic kernel has pae now, right?
[02:34] <steven-> you will add parameters for the filesystem though, the man pages will help you
[02:34] <bearly230> onitaL: I'm able to get into my own folder on that same server with no problems.
[02:34] <onitaL> aha, do you have the ubuntu's ip in /etc/exports?
[02:35] <Skeeter_lappy> WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
[02:35] <bearly230> onitaL: I have 2 clients/users we can both connect via nfs to the server and get access to our own folders, just not this one folder.
[02:35] <Skeeter_lappy> Thanks a million dude!
[02:36] <michealPW> It worked?
[02:36] <michealPW> Yay! :)
[02:36] <Skeeter_lappy> Heck yeah
[02:36] <onitaL> bearly230, is that folder defined in /etc/exports?
[02:36] <Skeeter_lappy> Dude I owe you
[02:36] <michealPW> Congrats, mate! Sorry for the huge process, hehe
[02:36] <Skeeter_lappy> no problem at all
[02:36] <Jisawesome2> ALright, I have a question about webservers
[02:37] <Jisawesome2> HOw can I host multiple websites on my one server?
[02:37] <Skeeter_lappy> I learned not to use janitor again
[02:37] <bearly230> onitaL: the server exports file only has /home *(rw) the ksradmin folder is under home.
[02:37] <michealPW> Well, there's no way Janitor did that. I'm not an expert with Janitor
[02:37] <Skeeter_lappy> neither am I but I won't take the chance
[02:38] <Jisawesome2> Anyone?
[02:38] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw thanks bro
[02:38] <Skeeter_lappy> I owe you
[02:38] <michealPW> But I dont' think it even has the ability to do that. Something broke your fglrx (FireGL, Radeon and Xpress) driver package and not only that but the open source radeon driver wasn't able to get X started. HEH! You manually built the fglrx packages and manually installed them, then manually generated an xorg.conf file with the new fglrx driver selected :P
[02:38] <onitaL> ah, so in the client you can see /home/ksradmin   but not the files /home/ksradmin/* ? bearly230
[02:39] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, you define virtual hosts.
[02:39] <bearly230> onitaL: the clients can see all folders in home on the server and get into our own, but not this 1 folder.
[02:39] <Skeeter_lappy> What ever did it beats me
[02:39] <Skeeter_lappy> but thanks again
[02:39] <Jisawesome2> Cronus, how do you do that?
[02:40] <michealPW> No problem hehe, that's what I'm here for :P
[02:40] <Skeeter_lappy> I'll remember that
[02:40] <onitaL> bearly230, Im wondering if the nfs daemon can be restarted
[02:40] <Skeeter_lappy> time for shower and bed
[02:40] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, which server are you using?
[02:40] <bearly230> onitaL: hold on I'll restart it.
[02:40] <michealPW> Almost time for bed for me, too heehee. Take care, enjoy your fully accelerated X Windows Server hooah! (muscle)
[02:41] <Skeeter_lappy> :) :) :)
[02:41] <bearly230> onitaL: restarted nfs on server, still same issue.
[02:42] <Jisawesome2> Cornus, I am using 8.04
[02:42] <paris> hi folks, how to download youtube videos on Zorin 6?
[02:42] <michealPW> What is Zorin?
[02:42] <onitaL> bearly230, interesting, specially if you say you already fixed the permissions
[02:42] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, I mean which web server are you using
[02:42] <michealPW> paris: You can get a Firefox extension to capture streaming videos.
[02:43] <michealPW> paris: Is that what you mean?
[02:43] <dougbb> I have a dmraid question ... I have a hardware raid that shows up fine, and works well, but sometimes it's /dev/dm-0, and sometimes it's /dev/dm-1 ... any way to lock it down?
[02:43] <Jisawesome2> Cronus, I dont know what you mean
[02:43] <Jisawesome2> None I believe yet
[02:43] <paris> it is the same like Ubuntu 12.4
[02:43] <bearly230> onitaL: current permissions on folder are drwxrwx---.  4 ksradmin ksradmin  4096 Oct 28 18:57 ksradmin
[02:44] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, maybe you could ask #apache2 for some help to get you starting.
[02:44] <michealPW> paris: Ah, well, install firefox (If you haven't already) and then in Firefox open the Add-On manager and search for "Flash Video", it will find the Flash Video Downloader add-on. I use that, it works very well and it's free :)
[02:44] <bearly230> onitaL:  Group line is ksradmin:x:505:russk,glenp
[02:44] <Jisawesome2> Will do
[02:45] <Jisawesome2> For the time being, how do I host just one website =P
[02:45] <michealPW> paris: Then you just go to whatever video you want to download and wait for it to begin playing/downloading.. Then FVD icon will turn blue, you can then click it and get an option to save the movie to your computer :P
[02:45] <Ox0000> Hi, I upgraded to kubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 yesterday. I had some problems with my graphics display and finally was able to roll-back to the legacy fglrx driver and everything was working fine untill my touchpad stopped responding to taps. The left-click button is working fine, but nothing happens when I tap the touchpad. Any ideas?
[02:45] <midgar> Hi everyone.
[02:47] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: In a terminal, type apachectl -v
[02:47] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: What version does it report?
[02:47] <michealPW> Or are you already in #apache2 getting help, hehe?
[02:47] <Jisawesome2> Im not yet
[02:47] <Jisawesome2> Right now I just want to try to host one website
[02:48] <asilhouette> hi guys, is there any alternative to wifi miniport feature you find on win7 to create virtual AP
[02:48] <michealPW> Well, you can disable virtual hosts in your apache configuration and just point apache to a single directory :\
[02:48] <Jisawesome2> I havent downloaded anything yet
[02:48] <asilhouette> i tried hostapd but things get pretty messed up
[02:48] <Jisawesome2> *isntalled
[02:48] <michealPW> Oh, you don't have apache installed at all hehe?
[02:49] <Jisawesome2> nope =P
[02:49] <Jisawesome2> im going to install LAMP soon
[02:49] <michealPW> Well basically, by default apache2 will install setup to only serve a single directory, I think /var/www.
[02:49] <michealPW> So really, out of the box it's ready to act the way you want it to :P
[02:49] <lahwran> how do I monitor GPU temperature of an amd gpu using the opensource drivers?
[02:49] <lahwran> I just put together a system and I want to monitor the gpu while I work to make sure it's being cooled properly
[02:50] <Jisawesome2> So, what would the steps be to set up a single webpage from installation
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | Jisawesome2
[02:51] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Actually wait, hehe. First, okay.. In apache there's the notion of "virtual sites"; Basically these exist only in the configuration file and everysingle site could be in the /var/www directory, each contained in their own subdirectory.. Then in your apache config, you'd specify "virtual" sites, pointing them to their respective directory inside /var/www.
[02:51] <Jisawesome2> Would that use different ip's
[02:52] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: In Apache2, there's also the notion of public user sites, where each user gets their own site in their /home/user directory. You can then access each user's homepage by a url like: www.yourdomain.com/~someuser
[02:52] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: What are you trying to do?
[02:53] <Jisawesome2> I want to be able to be able to host multiple websites with different ip's
[02:53] <whiteside> hi ppl.....i have a very good question for u guys...........trying to install my libflashplayer.so file for a update of my firefox flash, so i do that in terminal to locate the old file: locate libflashplayer.so
[02:53] <whiteside> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[02:53] <whiteside> /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[02:53] <whiteside> root@bt:~# cd /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/
[02:53] <whiteside> root@bt:/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer# ls
[02:53] <FloodBot1> whiteside: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <whiteside> root@bt:/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer# ls
[02:54] <shcherbak> !backtrack
[02:54] <whiteside> yep
[02:54] <whiteside> 64 bit
[02:54] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Well no, all the "virtual sites" would be exposed through the same IP address. What you'd do is map different domains to the different sites, like www.calculator.com maps to /var/www/calc/, www.spreadsheet.com maps to /var/www/spreadsheet/ etc. etc.. Really each domain points to the same IP address though. Hense the "virtual" server :P
[02:55] <Jisawesome2> ah
[02:55] <whiteside> k
[02:55] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Well different IPs is a totaly different ballpark, unless you mean IPs like <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>. Those are a different "class" of IP address', reserved for your local network basically. Those you have control over, your external IP address that you're connected to IRC with can't be changed by you, though.. That's given to you by your internet provider.
[02:56] <crimsonmane> someone trying to hide their IP address from IRC? set up a proxy. find them at www.spys.ru
[02:56] <Jisawesome2> I dont need different ip's if directing domains to subfolders is secure
[02:56] <Zanzacar> Hi I have a broadcom wireless card and need some help getting it working. I read through and attempted the information on the ubuntu site but that didn't work.
[02:58] <kevin_^> hi all. quick question, i need to do that grub reinstall. how do i do that? somebody pointed me to like a !grub or something, but i dunno what it was...
[02:58] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Yep, you can achieve really fine-grain security if that's your desired goal :)
[02:58] <kevin_^> !grub | kevin_^
[02:58] <chatdenfer> Can Dash be set up to listen to bash/zsh/emacs move point commands?
[02:58] <kevin_^> oh there it goes
[02:59] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Basically, for what you want to do Apache2's already setup and ready to go. It will install and create a directory at /var/www, probably a bunch of subdirectories underneath that depending on the apache2 package and then setup the configuration file with 1 virtual site, pointign at /var/www.
[02:59] <Jisawesome2> Will people only be able to access their subfolder rfom FTP, not other's?
[03:00] <michealPW> Well FTP's a different story. FTP's terrible. You'd probably want to go with ssh or something along that line.
[03:00] <michealPW> FTP is nearly insecurable haha.
[03:00] <onitaL> SFTP?
[03:00] <Jisawesome2> !ssh
[03:01] <Jisawesome2> !sftp
[03:01] <michealPW> Iunno, I guess. I still would recommend ssh over sftp. I'm not an expert on sftp.
[03:02] <asilhouette> kevin_^: is the boot working or you just want to reinstall grub
[03:02] <Jisawesome2> Michael, could you explain ssh to me
[03:03] <kevin_^> asilhouette: boot was fine, but got replaced with windows boot loader
[03:04] <kevin_^> ive done this before though but i couldnt remember that link but got it now
[03:04] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: ssh is a way for people to remotely connect and log-in to your computer. Users could remotely log-in to your computer and control their virtual site. SSH was built with security in mind, though. In fact it's called the Secure Shell Protocol :P
[03:05] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: FTP was never designed with security in mind. Perhaps SFTP can provide the security you need, I'm not familiar with it. I _know_ ssh can, though, albiet ssh might be more difficult to setup than sftp I'm not sure again I'm not familiar with sftp.
[03:05] <Jisawesome2> With SSH, can you make it so people can not go out of their respective subfolder
[03:06] <michealPW> Exactly
[03:06] <Jisawesome2> Thank you
[03:06] <michealPW> They can't even _look_ inside other people's virtual sites. Yet they have access to all kinds of tools that are very useful for workign with a remote server.
[03:06] <Jisawesome2> So are there SSH clients?
[03:06] <michealPW> As a developer, haha, I can tell you it's a heck of a lot nicer to have a shell access to a remote server than some clumsy FTP access :P
[03:06] <chatdenfer> SFTP is an extension to SSH.... allows more possibilities for managing remote files than SCP
[03:07] <michealPW> There's a bunch of really great ssh clients, even for Windows. On Windows PuTTy is a great ssh client.
[03:07] <michealPW> Really, chatdenfer, I didn't know that. Do you recommend sftp over ssh for his needs, then?
[03:07] <Jisawesome2> ALright, another question, Can you use a server for multiple purposes, ie a game server and a web server
[03:08] <chatdenfer> SSH-clients on Windows... try Cyberduck [http://cyberduck.ch]
[03:08] <user> can someone helpme figure out how to inst6all ubuntu 12.10
[03:09] <chatdenfer> MichaelPW, rather look at it as another tool in the toolbox
[03:09] <Jisawesome2> Put the disk in and do what it says
[03:10] <chatdenfer> michaelPW anything more secure than regular old-skool FTP is my advice
[03:10] <user> it says it cant find the autorun software.
[03:10] <Jisawesome2> ALright, another question, Can you use a server for multiple purposes, ie a game server and a web server
[03:10] <danon> with proxmox
[03:11] <paris> michealPW! I have Add-On manager in Firefox and  check it Downloader Helper. I am not sure if I have you comprehended  correctly, did I?
[03:11] <wastrel> Jisawesome2: yes
[03:11] <Jisawesome2> How wastrel
[03:12] <Jisawesome2> Actually, I will just find out later
[03:13] <chatdenfer> Remoting in using SSH, you'll have to issue scp, mv, to move files around.  Should already be installed...
[03:15] <michealPW> sftp? On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[03:15] <chatdenfer> yes, simply sftp username@host
[03:16] <chatdenfer> Server will prompt for same RSA certificate as usual when SSH-ing to a new host
[03:16] <chatdenfer> Answer Yes and type password of remote host.
[03:16] <danon> who here watches Hak5
[03:17] <chatdenfer> From there it should be smooth sailing...
[03:17] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[03:17] <michealPW> Neato!
[03:18] <michealPW> So you wouldn't be able to use a regular ftp client, then?
[03:18] <StormTwo> anybody can answer how to upgrade from 10.10 to 12.10?
[03:19] <paris> michealPW! I am grateful to you for that inside on that. I will read it and hopefully it will be fine! Big thanks!
[03:19] <danon> StormTwo>  just upgrade?
[03:19] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: haven't tried regular FTP cilent... Lots of them can do SFTP though, Filezilla, built-in Ubuntu SFTP-client etc
[03:20] <michealPW> paris: No problem. Good luck. From that link, you can install the add-on to firefox. Just click big green button "+ Add to Firefox"
[03:20] <michealPW> chatdenfer: Interesting! So is it sshd that's providing the service, then?
[03:20] <StormTwo> anybody can anwer
[03:20] <asilhouette> michealPW: hi is there any way to create a virtual AP from the wireless card i'm using?? i can do it on win7, and hoping there is something like wifi miniport on ubuntu as well
[03:20] <StormTwo> *answer?
[03:20] <StormTwo> it wouldnt
[03:20] <paris> michealPW! Ps. The Downloader Helper also works!
[03:21] <StormTwo> i have downloaded it and it wouldnt load
[03:21] <asilhouette> i want the wireless card to receive wifi and be a AP at the same time??
[03:21] <michealPW> I don't personally know, asilhouette. Perhaps somebody else knows, though. I don't use Wireless :\
[03:21] <asilhouette> ah
[03:21] <asilhouette> thanks
[03:21] <danon> or if you wanted to keep all your linux programs isntall ubuntu on virtualbox synch your programs on the vb with software center then reinstall on your computer
[03:21] <chatdenfer> Yup, opening a port 22 connection over which all ftp traffic is run
[03:21] <michealPW> I think you can do it, hehe, if encouragement helps. I'm just not sure how you'd do it :P
[03:21] <danon> thats if you have another box
[03:21] <asilhouette> if only i knew how to do it, i'd never go back to Windows
[03:22] <michealPW> chatdenfer: Ah, that's neat stuff! :)
[03:22] <michealPW> asilhouette: Hah, that's the spirit! :)
[03:22] <danon> is all the ports in ubuntu really closed?
[03:23] <danon> well isolated i guess because i ran a port scan on audit-pc
[03:23] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: best of both worlds!
[03:23] <StormTwo> anybody pls answer immidiately
[03:24] <michealPW> StormTwo: Can I answer with a question? Does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade not get you anywhere?
[03:25] <OerHeks> 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 LTS > 12.10
[03:25] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[03:25] <michealPW> OerHeks: If his sources are set to show LTS, could he dist-upgrade from 10.10 up to 12.04?
[03:25] <michealPW> nvm, let me read those links :P
[03:26] <michealPW> Answered in firth paragraph of first link (giggle) thx OerHeks.
[03:26] <StormTwo> michealPW yes
[03:27] <michealPW> StormTwo: I don't understand the question?
[03:28] <michealPW> StormTwo: This link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes describes the process you would take. dist-upgrade repeatedly up to 12.10, like OerHeks suggested :)
[03:28] <StormTwo> michealPW i have downloaded a 12.10 version, my ubuntu is 10.10, when im going to upgrade to 12.10, it wouldn't work
[03:29] <michealPW> Right. That's too much of a jump and is not supported. You would have to go from: <OerHeks> 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 LTS > 12.10
[03:29] <wastrel> you can't upgrade from 10.10 to 12.10 directly
[03:29] <OerHeks> Best way is to reinstall, backup your data first.
[03:29] <wastrel> oh what michealPW said
[03:30] <michealPW> Yea, if possible just backup your data mate and just install with the 12.10 disk, not upgrade :P
[03:30] <onitaL> yeah, I'd reinstall reather than do all those crazy dist-ugprades
[03:32] <chatdenfer> StormTwo: I second onitaL, backup, dl 12.10 and start fresh
[03:33] <onitaL> I would suggest to create a partition for only data (( not /home/xxxx ))
[03:33] <robbie> How can I find what is causing my system to drop ethernet connection every so often? It is not in the logs and it is *very* frequent
[03:33] <onitaL> in that way fresh installs are easier
[03:33] <elisa87> Hi I have no idea why I can't hear any sound!? It is not mute! Does anyone know what I should do?
[03:33] <Ox0000> My touchpad suddenly stopped responding to taps after an upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04. Everything else (scrolling, moving, etc) works fine except for tap and double-tap. Any ideas?
[03:33] <hot2trot> my ubuntu virtual machine now freezes at the start up screen with UBUNTU 12.04 and the 4 dots below it
[03:34] <onitaL> lol
[03:34] <onitaL> wow
[03:34] <hot2trot> it's not erally frozen, because when I quit, it shuts down properly, any ideas?
[03:34] <robbie> elisa87: I might be able to help .. you've a standard configuration or are you doing something special?
[03:34] <elisa87> Ox0000 may I know how did you upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04 and how long did it take?
[03:34] <elisa87> robbie I cannot listen to music in
[03:35] <elisa87> robbie I can hear the music being played in Pandora.com or spotify or music player in Ubuntu
[03:35] <Ox0000> elisa87: I did it through Muon update manager (Kubuntu). It took almost 2 hours.
[03:35] <robbie> open sound in settings, and go to test sound -- can you hear anything there?
[03:35] <robbie> elisa87: open sound in settings, and go to test sound -- can you hear anything there?
[03:35] <elisa87> Ox0000 might this upgrade hurt my installed programs or files?
[03:35] <robbie> elisa87: ooh Im sorry
[03:35] <robbie> elisa87: I thought you said "could not listen to music in..."
[03:36] <robbie> elisa87: where *don't* you hear sound ?
[03:36] <elisa87> robbie I cannot hear anything from sound test
[03:37] <Ox0000> elisa87: I don't really know. I had a problem with my graphics driver, so I ended up rolling back to fglrx legacy driver today. Before that, my touchpad was working fine and also shortly after the roll-back.
[03:37] <robbie> elisa87: ok, what is the name of the output channel? can you select a different option there?
[03:37] <Damien> ver
[03:37] <Damien> server
[03:38] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: which side of the fence on Unity? A fan like me or hate it?
[03:38] <robbie> How can I find what is causing my system to drop ethernet connection every so often? It is not in the logs and it is *very* frequent
[03:39] <michealPW> chatdenfer: I'm still on the fence, haha. I still have Unity installed and my wife really likes it, so in that way it's good :)
[03:39] <michealPW> chatdenfer: Me, Iunno. I resist change. I use KDE 4 haha, I still like the start menu-like klauncher :)
[03:40] <asilhouette> what about xfce4?
[03:40] <michealPW> GNOME 3 is really nice, too. The "kids" account uses GNOME 3, my 3 year old navigates it like a pro haha I was amazed.
[03:40] <steven-> lool
[03:40] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: hahaha! newer been a fan of the classic bottom right start-menu.
[03:41] <steven-> what about your wife?
[03:41] <steven-> no, grandparents!
[03:41] <asilhouette> like the one where a 3 yr old uses Win8
[03:41] <bazhang> !ot
[03:41] <robbie_> what would affect the network every few minutes? some client besides dhcp?
[03:42] <michealPW> I have xfce4 and lxde installed. xfce4 is really nice, iunno. It's just not as complete as KDE like when I click on the xfce menu, I can't even tell what utilities are for/from xfce and what isn't haha.
[03:42] <chatdenfer> Yeah, G3 and XFCE4 both good but really warming up to Unity
[03:42] <steven-> just out of curiosity, since i've never done it, is there an easy way to set up a socks5 proxy server?
[03:42] <michealPW> I also have a terrible time with xfce4 and lxde themes, because they're based on gtk2 and my KDE keeps rethemeing everythign to be consistent with qt haha, it's crazyness.
[03:42] <bazhang> michealPW, lets take the chit chat elsewhere
[03:43] <elisa87> robbie both front and left speakers don't work also when I use my headset I hear no voice
[03:43] <michealPW> So when I log-in to KDE, KDE breaks xfce4's look/feel. Then I gotta re-apply the gtk theme in xfce.
[03:43] <michealPW> bazhang: Sorry, mate.
[03:44] <michealPW> ... Can I just add one last thing?  You're basically forced to work with them from a terminal using vim :(
[03:44] <michealPW> hehe, k I'll stop now I promise :)
[03:45] <aiFrantz> elisa87 sorry because I'm little bit outdated. could you please tell me which Ubuntu that you're running
[03:46] <hot2trot> how do I boot straight into a commandline.... for some reason the computer is booting up but stops at ubuntu 12.04 with the 4 dots below.  Then, when I press power it shutdowns correctly, so it's not completely frozen, it just gets stuck
[03:47] <michealPW> hot2trot: At anytime, you can hold ctrl+alt and press F1 - F4 to switch to another text-based virtual terminal
[03:48] <hot2trot> michealPW: there it is, thank you
[03:48] <michealPW> To get back to your failed graphical terminal it's I think F7+, so your first graphical log-in would be in F7
[03:50] <mushroom> anyone could advise on how to patch the "Gwibber"..Thanks
[03:50] <mushroom> i have downloaded  a diff file.. but not sure of the source file of "Gwibber"
[03:52] <elisa87> I did this and it worked : 1)Open terminal and typed alsamixer.
[03:52] <elisa87>
[03:52] <elisa87>   2) Press a few tabs or F5 so you can see all the options.
[03:52] <elisa87>
[03:52] <elisa87>   3)Now with your arrow keys go to loopback and enable it
[03:52] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:52] <wastrel> :[
[03:52] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to install fglrx on Ubuntu 12.10, and everytime I get it installed and use sudo aticonfig --initial, upon reboot it throws me to an unusable low-graphics mode (I say unusable when I can only press enter on the first menu and nothing else works), is there something I can do to resolve this? my AMD GPU falls within the requirements of the current non-legacy drivers, it's an AMD Radeon HD 6470M
[03:52] <c_smith> holy great wall of text, batman!
[03:52] <robbie_> congrats elisa87 --sorry I couldnt help
[03:53] <michealPW> mushroom: You'd probably use the patch program
[03:53] <robbie_> why does my eth0 interface keep disconnecting?
[03:53] <_cronus_> mushroom, apt-get source gwibber . make sure you enable source repository.
[03:53] <michealPW> mushroom: Something like path < /path/to/yourdiff.diff
[03:53] <michealPW> mushroom: Check man patch for the manual.
[03:53] <c_smith> mushroom, to patch gwibber you need to get the source code (apt-source would work for that) and then patch the source code.
[03:54] <michealPW> mushroom: Sorry, patch < /path/to/yourdiff.diff
[03:55] <michealPW> c_smith: How are you installing fglrx?
[03:55] <d4rkh4nd> hello, i need to burn a iso of ubuntu but my burning programs are not working can this be done in terminal? if so how?
[03:55] <michealPW> From where, I should say
[03:55] <d4rkh4nd> This is my LAST dvd and i need this for my kids PC
[03:55] <danon> i know this is gonna sound bad because well it linux it is already suppose to be fast but are there any setting changes and tweaks yall know of to speed up ubuntu
[03:56] <mushroom> Thanks cronus.
[03:56] <mushroom> Thanks michealPW.
[03:56] <robbie_> why does my eth0 interface keep disconnecting?
[03:56] <mushroom> i shall try it out in a while.. munching now..haha..
[03:57] <michealPW> mushroom: np. So then move your .diff to the gwibber source's directory, then change directories to the gwibber source and run patch < gwibber.diff (where gwibber.diff is your .diff file.)
[03:58] <c_smith> michealPW, I've tried both via command line and via the software sources.
[03:58] <c_smith> both result in the same outcome.
[03:58] <XiaolinDraconis> is it possible to get qemu to read my hard drive, so i can boot an iso and install directly to my drive
[03:58] <michealPW> mushroom: Also, you'll have to make sure your gwibber's version is the same version the .diff is for else it can't work of course :P
[03:58] <c_smith> doesn't even get to the point I log in, just LightDM seems to be throwing me to this.
[03:59] <michealPW> c_smith: Ah, well, lets see the logs first. If you haven't already, install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) so that you can run this command: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[03:59] <d4rkh4nd> hello, i need to burn a iso of ubuntu but my burning programs are not working can this be done in terminal? if so how?
[03:59] <d4rkh4nd> This is my LAST dvd and i need this for my kids PC
[03:59] <lahwran> how do I set up LVM when installing ubuntu 12.04 desktop?
[03:59] <lahwran> (and why isn't it default?)
[03:59] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, dd is a command line option, its powerful and can do the job, but its dangerous
[03:59] <michealPW> Yes, your X Windows Server is failing to initialize your display for some reason. Also, do you know which ATI card you've got?
[04:00] <_cronus_> d4rkh4nd, sudo cdrecord /path/to/iso
[04:00] <c_smith> completely forgot about xorg.0.log when trying to figure this out myself..... has me wanting to look at it myself.
[04:00] <XiaolinDraconis> even better
[04:00] <d4rkh4nd> is sudo cdrecord gonna make the iso bootable ?
[04:00] <_cronus_> d4rkh4nd, not if it isn't already
[04:01] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, most likely the iso image you are using is bootable
[04:01] <michealPW> lahwran: What do you mean? The LVM (Logical Volume Manager?) is part of the linux kernel, it's not an optional component.
[04:01] <michealPW> lahwran: What's the problem you're having?
[04:01] <_cronus_> d4rkh4nd, but ubuntu iso image is
[04:01] <d4rkh4nd> its from the ubuntu website idk
[04:01] <XiaolinDraconis> it is
[04:01] <c_smith> michealPW, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314320/
[04:01] <michealPW> Hrmm lets see what we've got
[04:02] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, a usb thumb drive is another option
[04:02] <lahwran> michealPW: what do *you* mean? LVM is a way to set up logical volumes that can be shimmied around at runtime
[04:02] <lahwran> michealPW: and I can't find anything in the ubuntu installer to set it up
[04:02] <lahwran> nor in gparted for that matter
[04:02] <c_smith> michealPW, looking at it after searching for fglrx, seems to X.org seems to be failing to load the module fglrx
[04:02] <d4rkh4nd> well this other pc wont boot from it the only USB i have isnt working on it idk what its deal is
[04:02] <michealPW> Hrmm, indeed so it cannot find the fglrx kernel module. Fiddle sticks!@
[04:03] <michealPW> Perhaps you may have to download the package directly from AMD/ATI and build the package yourself and then install it with dpkg.
[04:03] <d4rkh4nd> its woerd i sees the usb and when i try to boot its just says Boot error
[04:03] <d4rkh4nd> it*
[04:03] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, sometimes mine doesnt boot until i shut it down completely and cold boot
[04:03] <c_smith> michealPW, I've tried the beta, gonna try the stable version now,
[04:04] <michealPW> Ah the beta yea I wouldn't play with that hehe :P
[04:04] <c_smith> as I found out the hard way,
[04:04] <d4rkh4nd> I tryed that to. It is trying to read it. Is it supposed to ne NFTS or FAT ?
[04:04] <robbie_> why does my eth0 interface keep disconnecting?
[04:04] <c_smith> suffice it to say it's easy to remove should anything go wrong once you know how
[04:05] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, i usually use ext4, but i believe the image puts it in its own format
[04:05] <d4rkh4nd> it let me choose, and i thought NFTS was best
[04:05] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, ntfs wont work for linux
[04:05] <d4rkh4nd> thats why then LOL well ill try to change to FAT
[04:06] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, what did you use to put the iso onto usb?
[04:06] <michealPW> Just download the stable package from ati.amd.com, unzip it, install the dependencies like build-essential dh-make debconf dh-modaliases fakeroot execstack and dkms
[04:06] <c_smith> michealPW, will do, I might have most of the deps.
[04:07] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, ive been using unetbootin on linux, and yumi on windows
[04:07] <Funhouse> Hi there, can someone tell me why there is a couple of files in my directory that I have never create before? Like this issue says --> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11357403/weird-file-not-found-error
[04:07] <michealPW> Then run it in a terminal like sh ./amd-driver-installer-whatever.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise; then install those with dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
[04:07] <michealPW> Should be able to then run amdconfig --initial -f
[04:07] <michealPW> btw I think they renamed it to amdconfig from aticonfig ^_-
[04:08] <norwack> Hello. i have issues with my wifi signal. on windows i get full bars, now i only get 1 and 2 when i use ubuntu
[04:08] <c_smith> michealPW, I'll try amdconfig this time,
[04:09] <michealPW> Hopefully that works. Then restart the machine and hopefully you'll get to a working lightdm this time hehe
[04:09] <c_smith> yeah
[04:10] <Funhouse> anyone?
[04:10] <c_smith> though I should add I'm on Quantal, not Precise, Precise doesn't handle my optical drive well.
[04:10] <michealPW> Could be as simple as dependency, happens to me all the time hehe. Some nice fella should make an "fglrx-depends" package that depends on all the tools you need to build even the fglrx kernel module.  I think it's basically the same, except Ubuntu/quantal ( if AMD supports it? :P )
[04:11] <michealPW> So sh ./amd-TAB --buildpkg Ubuntu/quantal
[04:11] <c_smith> yeah, I kinda figured it'd be Ubuntu/quantal, just thought I'd mention that in case it meant something.
[04:11] <michealPW> Maybe sudo sh ./amd, getting late I can't think haha :(
[04:12] <michealPW> Hope not (rofl)
[04:12] <c_smith> get some sleep, then. :)
[04:13] <c_smith> well, gonna reboot to see if this worked.
[04:13] <chatdenfer> norwack: what does sudo iwconfig say in terms of signal level?
[04:13] <michealPW> installed the febs?
[04:13] <michealPW> err, .debs?
[04:16] <chatdenfer> norwack: ?
[04:17] <Gnome3man> chatdenfer: norwack is gone and its more then likely a driver issue.. Had this problem till them updated my aerthos card on laptop different model then intended driver.
[04:19] <chatdenfer> Gnome3man: thx! I would have suggested drivers. Guess we've all been there, huh
[04:20] <dougbb> i found a way to fix plymouth with the nvidia drivers :)
[04:20] <dougbb> now that I know what the thing is called, it was easy to search for the solution
[04:20] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i start qemu booting an iso and reading a real hard drive, i want to install an iso this way
[04:20] <dougbb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/131120/no-splash-screen-after-nvidia-propietary-drivers
[04:20] <michealPW> Hrmm
[04:20] <dougbb> the script needs some fixes, but it works
[04:20] <Gnome3man> chatdenfer: documentation is getting better in explaining different wifi modules and additions..
[04:21] <dougbb> so now, any dmraid pros available? :)
[04:22] <Ghil> hey guys! I'm completely lost. I've installed Elementary on ubuntu 12.10, went back to gnome, updated and stayed in gnome for a few days..I came back to Pantheon to try it again, and there is nothing except the wallpaper and icons. I created a file to open in Chrome to get here, but since I don't have access to a terminal, I can't log out and choose something else at all. What can I do?
[04:22] <wastrel> what's elementary and what's pantheon
[04:22] <c_smith> well, that didn't work...... fglrx from the AMD site didn't help at all
[04:22] <mushroom> Hi michealPW..
[04:22] <michealPW> Hi :)
[04:22] <mushroom> i did the patching..
[04:22] <mushroom>  patch < 8fd91e42-1934-11e2-916b-002481e91f22.txt
[04:22] <mushroom> can't find file to patch at input line 4
[04:22] <mushroom> Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
[04:22] <mushroom> The text leading up to this was:
[04:22] <mushroom> --------------------------
[04:22] <FloodBot1> mushroom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <Ghil> wastrel: Elementary is a new WM much like gnome, and Pantheon is it's shell.
[04:23] <mushroom> it was asking for the File to Patch..  how to find out the file name?
[04:24] <michealPW> c_smith: Well, you installed the .debs after you created them with the ati script and didn't get any errors in the terminal?/
[04:24] <c_smith> michealPW, correct.
[04:24] <michealPW> c_smith: Then ran amdconfig --initial -f and restarted, still no go?
[04:24] <c_smith> did I need the -f? if so, I didn't add that.
[04:25] <michealPW> c_smith: Well, lets checkout the new log maybe it has some hints. Do cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[04:25] <c_smith> I just ran sudo amdconfig --initial
[04:25] <michealPW> Well Iunno what the -f even does, I just remember that from manual somewhere haha
[04:25] <michealPW> Have always used it (blush)
[04:25] <c_smith> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[04:25] <michealPW> Maybe let me look it up
[04:25] <c_smith> oooops
[04:25] <mushroom> ..
[04:26] <c_smith> that was the command I had just run....
[04:26] <c_smith> michealPW, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314345/
[04:26] <Ghil> wait, I found a way to open a terminal, I'll be alright from there. :D
[04:26] <Swiss_Onyx> Hello can someone help me?
[04:27] <c_smith> this time no mention of fglrx in the log.
[04:27] <michealPW> Oh, -f is the force option. The manual says something about force 'causes it to write out the xorg.conf even if there already exists a broken xorg.conf, I think, is how I interpret it hehe.
[04:27] <Swiss_Onyx> Hello?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> !details|Swiss_Onyx:
[04:28] <ahzi> i have a  eeepc 901 running 10.10. when i try to upgrade to 11.04 ...12.04, i get the error message 'not enough memory'. the 901 has a 4gb ssd and a 8gb ssd stock, (also have additional 16 gb sd card)
[04:28] <michealPW> Maybe uhh, do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:28] <michealPW> Then do sudo amdconfig --initial
[04:28] <c_smith> kk
[04:28] <michealPW> Start with a fresh new xorg.conf from amd hehe. Then restart the machine and see what it has to say for itself hehe
[04:28] <c_smith> will do
[04:28] <dougbb> ahzi: you'd likely be better off backing up your data and reinstalling fresh
[04:28] <konza> !ask | Swiss_Onyx
[04:29] <ahzi> is there a step by step how to link?
[04:30] <c_smith> hmmmmm.... in the amdconfig --initial command, I just got a warning from update alternatives: "warning: not replacing /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules with a link"
[04:30] <Swiss_Onyx> I am having trouble with my 12.10, I upgraded from 12.04 today and it freezes when I get to the purple  screen that says "umbutu" and has 4 dots below it. I had this problem before  in 12.04 but it only happened about once every 20 times I booted but now it happens 9 out of 10 times
[04:30] <c_smith> might that mean something?
[04:31] <michealPW> Hrmm, iunno what that means honestly HEH!
[04:31] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Swiss_Onyx:
[04:31] <c_smith> ah, well, continuing
[04:31] <michealPW> Maybe the link already exists?
[04:31] <c_smith> it might.
[04:31] <michealPW> *shrugs* hopefully it's not important (rofl)
[04:31] <c_smith> hopefully, if it is, and fglrx keeps failing, I can always fall back on the intel chip
[04:32] <c_smith> anywho, trying this again
[04:32] <michealPW> Jah, but radeon is much preferred heehee! :)
[04:32] <danon> it dosent really affect anything if im running x86 on a AMD Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4450e × 2  right?
[04:32] <michealPW> What do you mean, danon?
[04:32] <michealPW> As opposed to running x86_64, you mean?
[04:33] <danon> yeah because im running ubunto 12.10 32 bit
[04:33] <michealPW> And your Athlon's a 64-bit processor?
[04:33] <danon> yeah
[04:33] <michealPW> It's not bad nope :)
[04:34] <Swiss_Onyx> can you enplane it again in simpler words? Im a writer not a computer scientist
[04:34] <danon> ok just making sure because im in the process of configuring  ubuntu
[04:34] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: It's just explaining that, the splash screen during boot is a fancy technology called kernel modesetting. Some graphics cards can't do this and so it must be turned off :P
[04:35] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: did you read that web page?
[04:35] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: You can turn it off with the nomodeset parameter. Read the web-page, it probably explains it better too :)
[04:35] <Swiss_Onyx> thank you
[04:38] <lanken> is there any reason that my system monitor app would be showing four cores?
[04:38] <lanken> I have a dual-core laptop
[04:38] <Swiss_Onyx> I am trying to follow the instructions but I cant figure them out\
[04:38] <michealPW> Hyper-Threading, lanken?
[04:39] <lanken> michealPW: core i5 ivy bridge...yes, that makes sense.
[04:40] <fernando_> hey guys i need some tips how to use irc
[04:40] <dougbb> fernando_: you're already here, how much more do you need? :)
[04:40] <michealPW> lanken: Jah, Intel's Hyper-Threading technology creates a second "virtual" core in each of the 2 physical cores.
[04:40]  * cfhowlett LOL
[04:41] <michealPW> lanken: Basically. I'm sure it's more technically involved than that (rofl) :P
[04:41] <danon> well first step would be getting a irc client
[04:41] <lanken> michealPW: right, it's like cars that merge perfectly on the highway...I remember watching the video :)
[04:41] <fernando_> yes i do basicly find some channels and stuff like that
[04:41] <Swiss_Onyx> michealPW, where am I supposed to  enter the code on the url you sent me?
[04:41] <michealPW> Yup, first step to IRC is getting a good client... On linux, amagad there's so many to choose from :)
[04:41] <c_smith> aaaaand it didn't work again, and thus I give up.
[04:42] <lanken> I am really digging the window manager and panel that comes with Quantal
[04:42] <c_smith> I know my card is in the HD 6xxx range
[04:42] <danon> i wish they would port M-irc to linux
[04:42] <michealPW> c_smith: Fiddle sticks! :(
[04:43] <Swiss_Onyx> michealPW, I am still confused, I can not understand what I am supposed to do
[04:43] <c_smith> yeah, and I have no more time to mess with it tonight, not that I'm exactly getting bad results with my Intel GPU and the 3.5 kernel
[04:43] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: did you read the web page?
[04:43] <michealPW> Yes I must retire very shortly myself, very sorry I couldn't be of more help :(
[04:43] <michealPW> I blame society, c_smith ;)
[04:43] <c_smith> michealPW, might the fact that the two GPUs being a muxless pair be a possible cause?
[04:43] <Swiss_Onyx> i dont understand the webpage
[04:44] <michealPW> c_smith: I think it might be really complicating things, certainly. I'm not familiar with that kind of setup, mate :\
[04:44] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: at what point are you getting lost?
[04:44] <michealPW> c_smith: I vaguely remember somebody else having the odd behavior that the intel chip wanted to be the primary display controler, but dunno much about it I'm afraid.
[04:44] <c_smith> michealPW, afaik, X.org doesn't support Muxless pairs.
[04:44] <fernando_> how i talk to someone in private here - or not in private but only with that person
[04:45] <Swiss_Onyx> when it shows me code, where do I imput this? The terminal?
[04:45] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: what's the URL again?
[04:46] <c_smith> fernando_, /msg <insert-username-here>
[04:46] <Swiss_Onyx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[04:46] <michealPW> Jah, kind of a leap but have you tried switching which gpu you connect your monitor to?
[04:46] <michealPW> Iunno, maybe that wont help hehe.
[04:46] <lahwran> what dangers are there to encrypting my home folder?
[04:46] <fernando_> thanx c_smith
[04:46] <cfhowlett> lahwran: only the /home?
[04:46] <c_smith> michealPW, can't it's a laptop that I didn't build
[04:46] <lahwran> what kind of data might leak out due to the rest of the FS being unencrypted?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> lahwran: lose the password and lose your mind ..
[04:46] <lahwran> cfhowlett: it's an option in the desktop installer
[04:46] <c_smith> Lenovo IdeaPad U400,
[04:46] <michealPW> c_smith: Ah I see, interesting
[04:47] <lahwran> cfhowlett: that's not really a risk with this password :p
[04:47] <michealPW> I thought it was a desktop with discrete amd graphics hehe
[04:47] <cfhowlett> lahwran: so long is you encrypt ONLY the /home you should be OK
[04:47] <c_smith> yeah, like I said, not exactly disappointed with the milage I'm getting with the Intel chip.
[04:47] <lahwran> how so?   Frequently mentioned here in fact.
[04:51] <Swiss_Onyx> Which ones?
[04:51] <wujie> Excuse me ,I amwujie
[04:51] <wujie> Hi
[04:51] <lahwran> cfhowlett: unexpected in what way? explosive/failing? leaking data? leaking encryption keys?
[04:51] <dougbb> lahwran: there's no point in encrypting the system partitions, what is your threat model that you want to protect them from?
[04:52] <Swiss_Onyx> dougbb:The text on the URL?
[04:52] <wujie> ok ,This is Bug?
[04:52] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: you're going to have to try the various options listed on that page, unfortunately there is no one answer to your problem, it's highly dependent on your individual hardware
[04:52] <cfhowlett> thanks for enlightening him.  I don't have the techno vocabulary>dougbb
[04:52] <Gnome3man> lahwran: No, Encryption of the hardrive is great usually the best have control card that only excepts that hard drive be installed and ran on that system... That was the whole deal in Colorado Encrptyed laptop...
[04:52] <lahwran> Gnome3man: I'm sorry, but I don't follow, could you rephrase?
[04:52] <dougbb> cfhowlett: np
[04:53] <wujie> Hi ,What can you say someting
[04:54] <lahwran> dougbb: uhh, just generic stuff
[04:54] <wujie> sulod can we see
[04:54] <lahwran> dougbb: "someone who shouldn't have physical access does"
[04:54] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: Try scrolling down to the section "How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)" and following those directions.
[04:54] <wujie> hi ,I am chinese
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: right, so, what damage can they do if all they have access to is the system?
[04:55] <Swiss_Onyx> do you meen the acpi=off, noapic and dolapic and vmalloc=xxxM
[04:55] <lahwran> dougbb: they can see /var
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: right, so what?
[04:55] <lahwran> dougbb: and what packages I've installed
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: right, so what?
[04:55] <Swiss_Onyx> thank you, this is much easser
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: my point is, what is it that you are trying to protect?
[04:56] <Gnome3man> lahwran: Look you have Controls all over the PC motherboard that send and recieve/ data.. What makes the Hard drive in Colorado Case Unique the have a Hard drive controller that lets the system know it will not run on other physical systems or they would have just cracked the system. The software encrypted Idea is great ,but you can use osphcrak and other brut force software with livecd to crack system..
[04:56] <dougbb> lahwran: or put another way, what bad thing happens if they get access to the bare system?
[04:56] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: Try this. Hold alt and press F2. Then type gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:56] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: It will prompt you for your password and then open up the grub configuration file.
[04:56] <lahwran> dougbb: :|
[04:56] <lahwran> dougbb: guess I'll go with home encryption
[04:56] <lahwran> thanks
[04:57] <lahwran> Gnome3man: you aren't making much sense
[04:57] <dougbb> lahwran: np :)
[04:57] <Gnome3man> lahwran: software vs hardware encryption in short
[04:57] <fgh> broadcom 4313 supported by linux ?\
[04:58] <Gnome3man> lahwran: If you want to know more check out HAK5 and pentration testing Backtrack 4, 5
[04:58] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: Now go down to line 11 where it says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash". You're going to add nomodeset, to make it look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset". Then save the file and close it. Then hold alt and press F2, type gnome-terminal and press enter. In the terminal type sudo update-grub
[04:59] <Swiss_Onyx> thank you, for the help, sorry If i was so confused
[04:59] <michealPW> Then restart the computer and see if you experience the same problem during the startup you were experiencing before.
[04:59] <Gnome3man> lahwran: I guess for the average user encryption by software is more then suitable for your needs.
[05:00] <dougbb> Gnome3man: for all others, there is ironkey :)
[05:00] <michealPW> LOL
[05:00] <dougbb> is there any particular reason that firefox would keep losing its window decorations with compiz?
[05:00] <dougbb> compiz has been working fine till today
[05:01] <Gnome3man> dougbb: Unless you got info to hide from FBI, CIA and NSA... Local thief is not this great at stealing info beyond passwords...
[05:01] <lahwran> Gnome3man: I'm not an average user of ubuntu :p
[05:01] <lahwran> maybe more like an average user of archlinux
[05:01] <dougbb> Gnome3man: if you're trying to hide data from them, they have far easier ways of getting your password
[05:02] <lahwran> dougbb: O_o creepy
[05:02] <michealPW> You can't hide data from those agencies, that's just silly.
[05:02] <lahwran> oh cut the fud
[05:02] <michealPW> They'd just pick you up at night and drive you off somewhere and torture you until you give them your password LOL
[05:02] <michealPW> Then viola, beat your encryption. (giggles)
[05:02] <lahwran> ugh, the installer apparently crashed
[05:03] <Gnome3man> lahwran: That is what I use! When not playing with ubuntu... I suggest watch videos from hak5 these geeks travel to Electronics show every year and pickup on tips by FBI and other hackers there well versed in haking
[05:03] <dougbb> https://xkcd.com/538/
[05:04] <michealPW> (rofl) dougbb, nice.
[05:04] <michealPW> So true, though.
[05:04] <lahwran> gah, that's not funny
[05:05] <michealPW> Well, off to bed chaps.  Mainly require gather packets and decyfer code. Weahter that be hard drive, Dvd Burner, Wifi or boot process.
[05:05] <dougbb> lahwran: you can click the 'more information' button and it should help
[05:05] <lahwran> I did
[05:05] <dougbb> info: lsof
[05:05] <lahwran> it didn't
[05:05] <lahwran> there was nothing there
[05:06] <dougbb> lahwran: how long did you wait?
[05:06] <lahwran> well, not nothing, but no stdout of apt-get
[05:06] <lahwran> dougbb: it blew up trying to install initramfs
[05:06] <dougbb> mysystem is fairly fast, and it takes time to collect the data
[05:06] <info> dougbb: and how can i stop nfs from holding locks?
[05:06] <dougbb> info: kill the process holding the lock
[05:06] <lahwran> now I have to start the installation over! gah!
[05:07] <lahwran> why don't they have continuable error handling on this
[05:07] <lahwran> it shouldn't be _that_ hard to allow me to manually resume it
[05:07] <squid_> hi #ubuntu
[05:07] <info> dougbb: any specific command to kill process occupied by nfs??
[05:07] <squid_> I'm running 12.04 powerpc on a powerbook g4
[05:07] <squid_> I can't get audio working
[05:07] <dougbb> info: find the process, then use 'kill <pid number of process>
[05:07] <squid_> I tried following the directions on the wiki powerpc faq
[05:08] <squid_> and I tried some forum posts
[05:08] <squid_> where I need to modify the modules loaded
[05:08] <Gnome3man> lahwran: Thats allright lost my ArchLinux box do to simlinks changes in gcc 4.7... Wasn't doing regular updates.
[05:08] <squid_> but I can't get it to work
[05:08] <Gnome3man> lahwran: crashed the system.. :(
[05:09] <Erin> is all I have to do to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo shutdown -r now ?
[05:09] <info> dougbb: actually i'm writing a script for checking locks held by nfs, any specific command
[05:09] <Gnome3man> Erin: support for 12.10 is short compared to LTS 12.04
[05:09] <dougbb> info: there is no magic bullet here ... use lsof to find the process, and ps to find the pid
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Erin: No, not even close to whay you do to upgrade.
[05:10] <Erin> what do I do then, command line preferred
[05:10] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Erin
[05:10] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | Erin
[05:11] <Gnome3man> Well back to studying! :P
[05:11] <b1lly> so
[05:11] <b1lly> im trying to setup a lamp server
[05:11] <b1lly> but python based
[05:11] <b1lly> is there something more i need to do
[05:11] <b1lly> other than install python, apache2 and mysql
[05:12] <Erin> x@Media:~$ do-release-upgrade
[05:12] <Erin> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[05:12] <Erin> No new release found
[05:12] <Erin> ?
[05:12] <FloodBot1> Erin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <bazhang> !lamp > b1lly
[05:12] <Erin> also that link doesn't have upgrade instructions for 12.04 > 12.10
[05:13] <bazhang> Erin, be sure that check for lts only is not marked
[05:13] <lahwran> okay
[05:13] <lahwran> how do I set up LVM on a desktop install of ubuntu?
[05:13] <Erin> bazhang, what check? im using command line through SSH
[05:14] <lahwran> I was following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782296 - however, after getting through the "who are you?" stage of the installer, it blew up with an error message related to initramfstools. unfortunately it wouldn't let me copy and paste the error information so I can't post it in here, and I know better than to post an error to some random debugging team that won't get back to me for a year
[05:14] <lahwran> okay maybe that last part lets one of my pet peeves show, but you get the picture
[05:15] <Captain_Claw> Is there any problem if I install Gnome 3 in my default Ubuntu Precise?
[05:15] <Captain_Claw> Dependencies etc ..
[05:15] <danon> not if you use gnome-session-rollback
[05:16] <Captain_Claw> what is that?
[05:16] <tensorpudding> default ubuntu 12.04 has gnome 3 already installed
[05:16] <Erin> So no one can tell me how to upgrade from 12.04 > 12.10 from command line?
[05:16] <Coburn> Erin
[05:16] <Coburn> Firstly
[05:16] <Coburn> add the 12.10 sources into apt-get
[05:16] <Coburn> comment out the 12.04 ones
[05:16] <Captain_Claw> then why isn't it being shown under DE's available when I login?
[05:17] <Coburn> then apt-get update
[05:17] <Erin> Coburn, got a link so I can copy/paste ?
[05:17] <Captain_Claw> i saw some instructions that i have to add a ppa to get gnome 3 de
[05:17] <Captain_Claw> add a ppa & install some stuff
[05:17] <Coburn> Erin, I can give you a set of commands
[05:17] <rumpe1> Captain_Claw, which DEs are available when you login?
[05:17] <Erin> Coburn, awesome
[05:17] <Captain_Claw> unity, unity 2d, gnome classic, gnome classic (without effects) -- if i rem correctly
[05:18] <Captain_Claw> rumpe1: ^
[05:18] <Coburn> Erin: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:18] <Coburn> Erin: before you copy paste
[05:18] <Coburn> make sure you know what the 12.10 release name is
[05:18] <rumpe1> Captain_Claw, then it's probably gnome classic. Unity itself uses gnome3.
[05:18] <Coburn> I think it's Percise or something
[05:19] <Erin> nah current is precise
[05:19] <Coburn> what's the next one?
[05:19] <bazhang> edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[05:19] <Erin> and I alrdy updated and used dist-upgrade, and I know how to use nano :-)
[05:19] <bazhang> Erin, ^
[05:19] <Erin> k
[05:19] <Coburn> Question for other folks.
[05:19] <Captain_Claw> rumpe1:  i saw some instructions to add a ppa, install some stuff to get gnome 3 de (which is diff from unity). q/n is whether there's any problem that might happen if i do this?
[05:19] <Coburn> Can I debootstrap Ubuntu so I get a nice little "baby" Ubuntu without the eyecandy (ie. base system?)
[05:20] <Erin> bazhang, that worked thanks
[05:20] <Coburn> I know I can do it on Debian, but not sure with Ubuntu
[05:20] <rumpe1> Captain_Claw, first check your version. In terminal type : "cat /etc/issue"
[05:20] <Erin> Coburn, just installl the server version then add the stuff you want
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !minimal|Coburn:
[05:20] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Installed Gnome 3 issues when diplaying panel on my 32" LED Vizio TV... Have to google to find solution.. Bit annoying. I use cairo for that reason to have a panel...
[05:20] <Coburn> Uhhhh....
[05:20] <Coburn> Not what I wanted
[05:20] <Coburn> I mean, I have a system already
[05:20] <b1lly> is there a way to test python serverside? on my local web server
[05:21] <Coburn> b1lly: what server?
[05:21] <Coburn> lighttpd? nginx?
[05:21] <Fudge> hi, fresh install quantal on eeepc 1000ha and wireless still continues to prompt me for password without connecting. keep experiencing this, please help :D
[05:21] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Also added kupfer to have access to file manager
[05:21] <Erin> I love my internet, downloading 12.10 in 2 mins flat ;-P
[05:21] <Coburn> Say apache and I'll shoot you
[05:21] <b1lly> whats wrong with apache
[05:21] <Coburn> Erin: you make me jealous
[05:21] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: ah, ok, thanks!  any other problems?  like unity not working properly afterwards or something like that?
[05:21] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Not sure if its my expereince alone..
[05:21] <Coburn> Oh gawd, apache
[05:22]  * Coburn spits out his coffee
[05:22] <Erin> Coburn, 7MB/S current dl speed ;-)
[05:22] <b1lly> whats wrong with apache
[05:22] <metap0d> i <3 apache.
[05:22] <Coburn> max here on ADSL2+ is 2.5Mb/s
[05:22] <Coburn> Australia...
[05:22] <Erin> eww dsl
[05:22] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: also, any idea how easy it is to uninstall ?
[05:22] <Erin> doesn't all australian internet have crappy bandwidth caps also ?
[05:22] <Coburn> yeah
[05:22] <alone> use "alone" as nick on a english's channel.. error x)
[05:22] <b1lly> Coburn: ...?
[05:22] <Erin> thats so lame :-D
[05:22] <Fudge> we do
[05:22] <Coburn> don't get me started on that junky webserver, that is apache
[05:22] <Coburn> it's slow
[05:23] <Erin> i've dled 1TB+ in a month and never had them say word one to me ;-)
[05:23] <Coburn> it r**es your server under load
[05:23] <Coburn> it eats your memory for breakfast
[05:23] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: No, Unity works like a charm.. Not sure if I buy into the idea of creating a new GUI... Gnome 3 rocks
[05:23] <Coburn> process management is a PITA
[05:23] <Coburn> I love nginx, and it loves me
[05:23] <Coburn> Even though it's not user friendly config-wise, nginx craps on Apache
[05:23] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Uninstall what?
[05:24] <Erin> my opinion is XFCE is the best right now, low resource usage but very useable
[05:24] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: uninstall gnome3
[05:24] <Coburn> Captain_Claw: sudo apt-get purge gnome3
[05:24] <Coburn> actually
[05:24] <Coburn> Captain_Claw: sudo apt-get purge gnome3*
[05:24] <Coburn> the star will match EVERYTHING gnome3
[05:24] <metap0d> was captain_claw the main villain in inspector gadget?
[05:25] <Coburn> Be careful though
[05:25] <Captain_Claw> Coburn: safe to do?
[05:25] <Coburn> Captain_Claw: Review it before you say yes
[05:25] <Fudge> anyone experienced their w/nic's prompting for wireless password again and again without connecting?
[05:25] <Gnome3man> Coburn: thought that was gnome-shell?
[05:25] <Captain_Claw> Coburn: ok
[05:25] <Coburn> Fudge: yes. it means your wifi is derping, power cycle the adapter
[05:25] <Fudge> why not just install xfce4-desktop or what eve rthe metapackage is called and tell lightdm to use that session
[05:25] <Coburn> I've had the issue on my laptop
[05:25] <dougbb> Fudge: are you 10000000% sure the password is right?
[05:26] <Coburn> Erin: I'd say LXDE but it's like erm a mix bag of stuff
[05:26] <Fudge> yep 100% positive, this is really giving me greif
[05:26] <dougbb> xfce++ :)
[05:26] <Fudge> Coburn  you mean reboot modem?
[05:26] <Coburn> I mean, the config apps are not even related
[05:26] <Erin> Coburn, ahh LXDE is like the only one i've never tried
[05:26] <Coburn> there's always DWM
[05:26] <Erin> I'm in love with xfce right now, used to use gnome, and then tried fluxbox. fluxbox is pretty nice too
[05:26] <dougbb> Fudge: ok, then do what Coburn said :)
[05:26] <Coburn> Fudge: no, not reboot modem, power cycle your adapter
[05:27] <Coburn> disable it and re-enable it
[05:27] <Coburn> you should have a key combo or switch
[05:27] <dougbb> Fudge: if you have control over the ap, try removing the security temporarily to see if it connects at all
[05:27] <Erin> Fudge, do you have wpa_supplicant installed ? are u using WPA?
[05:27] <Fudge> good ideas, yep fn f2 will diable/enable thanks
[05:27] <Coburn> Yeah
[05:27] <Coburn> I've been in the same boat
[05:27] <Coburn> sometimes a kernel upgrade fixes it
[05:28] <Erin> also
[05:28] <Coburn> or installing the manufacture's driver
[05:28] <Erin> Fudge, you can try rmmod the wifi adapter module
[05:28] <Coburn> that sometimes fixes the issue too
[05:28] <Erin> and modprobe it again
[05:28] <Erin> some times that helps
[05:28] <Coburn> !bootstrap
[05:28] <Coburn> !dbootstrap
[05:28] <Coburn> !debootstrap
[05:28] <Erin> Fudge, sudo rmmod <module name> && sudo modprobe <module name>
[05:28] <Erin> ^^ def worth a try.
[05:30] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Also be aware you must go to upper right hand corner to access gnome hud ... Is that what that interface is called??? unsure
[05:30] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: ops upper left hand corner..
[05:30] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: upper left, right?
[05:30] <Fudge> well guys, with security disabled it connects
[05:30] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: yeah :)
[05:31] <Fudge> I guess enable and try again?
[05:31] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: Coburn thanks for your help guys
[05:31] <Captain_Claw> (or girls) :)
[05:31] <Coburn> no problems
[05:31] <Erin> Fudge, what kind of security is it and how are you connecting to it?
[05:31] <Fudge> also the wireless filter was still set on allowed mac addresses so that is now disabled, that may help
[05:32] <Fudge> wpa2
[05:32] <Coburn> ah, no wonder
[05:32] <Erin> Fudge, is the wpa_supplicant package installed ?
[05:32] <Coburn> yeah
[05:32] <Coburn> if it's ubuntu it should be installed, Erin
[05:32] <Erin> LOL you had mac address filter on?
[05:32] <Coburn> mac address filter is for the weak
[05:32] <Erin> you might be good to go then if u turned it off now or added the mac of the wifi adapter
[05:32] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Dude I don't think we have that many girls here!
[05:32] <danon> how do you customize the system bars
[05:33] <danon> like the task bar and program bar
[05:33] <Coburn> Girls that know their Ubuntu?! Where?
[05:33] <Coburn> :P
[05:33] <Erin> Coburn, actually its smart considering how weak WEP/WPA encryption actually is :-)
[05:33] <Coburn> Meh
[05:33] <Fudge> Erin  I have an old ibook that doesnt like wpa or even wep
[05:33] <Coburn> I have a WiFi app on my Android phone that can kill any wifi device connecting
[05:33] <Erin> I cracked my own WEP key in like 5 minutes once on ubuntu just to see if I could ;-)
[05:33] <Coburn> How?
[05:33] <Erin> aircrack-ng
[05:34] <dougbb> wpa2 with AES is about the best you can do nowadays
[05:34] <Gnome3man> Coburn: Girls that know IRC! here
[05:34] <b1lly> is there any reason to use "yum" package installer over apt-get/
[05:34] <dougbb> wep is a joke :)
[05:34] <b1lly> or pip
[05:34] <Erin> b1lly, yum is for suse not ubuntu im pretty sure
[05:34] <Coburn> b1lly: yum is red hat
[05:34] <Erin> debian based uses apt
[05:34] <Coburn> apt is godly
[05:34] <Erin> yes it is :-)
[05:34] <b1lly> so if I instaleld yum
[05:34] <Coburn> it's better than yum in some things
[05:34] <b1lly> its pointless
[05:34] <Erin> i wouldn't install yum
[05:34] <Coburn> b1lly: you won't find it in debian distros
[05:34] <Erin> it might break your system having 2 package managers going
[05:34] <Coburn> you should be shot for the suggestion
[05:35] <b1lly> can I uninstall it
[05:35] <Coburn> and also, yum uses rpm
[05:35] <Coburn> of cords
[05:35] <Coburn> course*
[05:35] <b1lly> ok, so I accidently installed it
[05:35] <d4rkh4nd> can i passwd username  in grub ?
[05:35] <b1lly> how do I get rid of it
[05:35] <Fudge> ok its fixed woohooo
[05:35] <Erin> b1lly, sudo apt-get purge yum
[05:35] <dougbb> Fudge: :)
[05:35] <Fudge> it was a setting i had wrong in modem with the filtering, thanks for getting me to  look hehe
[05:35] <Coburn> also, has Ubuntu got a safeguard against 'sudo apt-get remove dpkg apt-get' ?
[05:35] <Coburn> wait
[05:35] <Gnome3man> If your going yum suggest using Pacman Rossetta... Crazy Idea thou... lol
[05:36] <Coburn> also, has Ubuntu got a safeguard against 'sudo apt-get remove dpkg apt' ? *
[05:36] <b1lly> so what exactly is debian
[05:36] <Coburn> the fundamentals of Debian
[05:36] <Erin> b1lly, debian is a linux distro, ubuntu is based on it
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !debian|billy
[05:36] <Coburn> b1lly: please google
[05:36] <Coburn> :)
[05:36] <Erin> Ive actually thought about using debian for awhile
[05:36] <b1lly> I use ubuntu
[05:36] <Coburn> Debian Wheezy is good
[05:36] <Erin> but the support is always so good here no way im changing now ;-)
[05:37] <Coburn> Debian support is lazy at times
[05:37] <Coburn> Ubuntu is good, but no offese, but unity UI is sh*t
[05:37] <Erin> i love having an SSD for the / on this server box. so fast ;-D
[05:37] <Coburn> I WANT MY CLASSIC DESKTOP BACK
[05:37] <Erin> unity is crap I agree Im using xfce when I need a gui, but usually no gui on this box I run TeamSpeak server and some torrents on it
[05:37] <Gnome3man> Coburn: might want to try linux mint MATE OR CINNAMON ..
[05:38] <Coburn> Yeah
[05:38] <danon> Coburn search gnome-session-rollback
[05:38] <Coburn> To be frank, I wanted to use Linux as my daily driver, but WINE is messy with games
[05:38] <XiaolinDraconis> somehow i managed to get a 100gig file on a 40gig partition, damn im good
[05:38]  * dougbb tempted to install stock ubuntu just to see why people are complaining so much about unity
[05:38] <b1lly> so ubuntu is just a branch of debian
[05:38] <lafon> I've found that precise often kicks me off wifi. Is there some way to make it more reliable?
[05:39] <Coburn> lafon: feed it more ram
[05:39] <Coburn> ;)
[05:39] <Gnome3man> Coburn: Not quite sure what the IDEA of Cinnamon is??  Cross between Unity's graphics and Gnome 2 simplicity
[05:39] <Coburn> RAM is like bacon, computers love it
[05:40] <lafon> Coburn: Hah! Just one of the reasons I left win was because it used too much ram
[05:40] <Erin> Coburn, I like ur style, bacon goes with anything so does ram
[05:41] <Erin> Coburn, also yea I wish I could drop windows ( have it running on my best machine cause of games :-( i5 3570k / gtx 670
[05:41] <Coburn> I'll return to Linux the day that Black Ops 2 runs perfectly
[05:41] <Erin> Coburn, oh now I hate ur style, cod games :-(
[05:41] <hmmwhatsthisdo> unfortunately, Steam on linux doesn't work very well.
[05:41] <Coburn> one thing though
[05:41] <Coburn> Valve is working with the Source Engine to run on Linux
[05:41] <hmmwhatsthisdo> true, true
[05:41] <Coburn> So maybe Half Life 3 for Linux
[05:41] <Coburn> That would be killer
[05:42] <Erin> yea
[05:42] <Coburn> Linux. Back on the grid.
[05:42] <hmmwhatsthisdo> but that's beginning with the L4D engine, meaning stuff like TF2 will probably never see it
[05:42] <Coburn> heh
[05:42] <Erin> if games ran on linux ALOT of people would switch
[05:42] <Coburn> I thought TF2 was based on HL2?
[05:42] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and also, I use Steam in an unorthodox method, something that probably would never work on linux
[05:42] <sargennto> TF2 is confirmed for steam and linux..
[05:42] <Coburn> My gaming laptop is a Core i7 2620QM / GTX670M
[05:42] <Erin> hmmwhatsthisdo, what is that ?
[05:42] <hmmwhatsthisdo> sargennto: orly?
[05:43] <Coburn> Although, one thing though
[05:43] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Erin: I have 4 instances of Steam running - my main account and 3 idlers that farm drops in TF2
[05:43] <sargennto> hmmwhatsthisdo: thinkin so.. let me find the the website to confirm
[05:43] <Coburn> you know ARM systems, right? They are getting really nice GPUs.
[05:43] <Coburn> Think about it, if the engine was able to run nativiely on whatever platform
[05:44] <hmmwhatsthisdo> sargennto: I'll take your word for it. Though, I have something like 85-100 games, and I doubt the majority of them would ever run on linux
[05:44] <Coburn> you could have a little embedded box running Half Life
[05:44] <Erin> hmmwhatsthisdo, lol
[05:44] <lafon> Not sure I'll ever get an arm system
[05:44] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Coburn: honestly, I kind of doubt source could run on anything smaller than a laptop
[05:44] <hmmwhatsthisdo> that thing is a pig
[05:44] <Erin> ahh my dist upgrade is done brb
[05:44] <Coburn> I work on my own distro for the Raspberry Pi
[05:44] <Coburn> And it's GPU is on par with the Xbox (if not better)
[05:45] <sargennto> I want a pi..
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I mean, TF2 is something like 6 GB, plus about half a gig of ram when running
[05:45] <Coburn> Raspberry Pi v2 has 512MB RAM
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> when it's running
[05:45] <Coburn> The other device I'm working with, CuBox, has 1GB DDR3 RAM
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> plus os overhead, etc.
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> is that shared with the graphics chip?
[05:46] <Coburn> Yeah, but it's controllable
[05:46] <Coburn> stock setup is 384MB for GPU
[05:46] <Gnome3man> Now I know what Gnome3 reminds me of!  Its Easypeasy for netbooks! :P
[05:46] <Coburn> but you can shink it down to 8MB
[05:46] <hmmwhatsthisdo> ...I get about 55 fps on TF2 on a high-end setup with 3GHz and 8GB ram
[05:46] <dougbb> unity .... we did windows 8 first
[05:47] <Coburn> Windows 8 - fail
[05:47] <hmmwhatsthisdo> you could definitely shoehorn it into a smaller system, but performance will suffer
[05:47] <Coburn> dougbb: http://coburndomain.net/2012/10/coburn-gets-thrown-into-cold-water-his-windows-8-story/
[05:47] <Coburn> That's my story with Win8
[05:47] <Erin> cat /etc/isstrans
[05:47] <lafon> Win8 is ok if you've got a touchscreen
[05:47] <Erin> wtf
[05:47] <Coburn> ?
[05:47] <lafon> Otherwise you're screwed
[05:48] <Coburn> yeah
[05:48] <Coburn> f*** metro
[05:48] <sargennto> hmmwhatsthisdo: apparently within the next week the linux steam beta could be happening.. the games for the beta appear to be TF2, Portal, and Serious Sam 3
[05:48] <Erin> okay well that was an easy upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[05:48] <mad-leigh> Hello I'm using Kubuntu 12.10 -  would like to remove Amazon.
[05:48] <Erin> 2 commands ;-P
[05:48] <Coburn> Kubuntu is obsolete isn't it
[05:48] <robbie> how can I set up dhcp but still use a static ip? (static IP with dhcp for dns, etc)
[05:48] <mad-leigh> is it
[05:48] <Coburn> wait
[05:48] <Coburn> I think it was unsupported by Concail
[05:48] <hmmwhatsthisdo> sargennto: Portal or P2?
[05:48] <Erin> robbie, does ur router have address reservatio ?
[05:49] <mad-leigh> I was using UE 3.4 but the dark themes were doing my head in.
[05:49] <Coburn> But will TF2 and Portal only run on x86 or is it multi-platform?
[05:49] <robbie> Erin: yes
[05:49] <Coburn> because TF2 running on CuBox = awesome
[05:49] <Erin> robbie, then use it, setup dhcp on the ubuntu box and have it reserve an address on the router
[05:49] <robbie> Erin: its called "static ip address allocation" on my router
[05:49] <mad-leigh> is there a room better suited to my needs?
[05:49] <Erin> yea do that ;-)
[05:50] <Erin> thats what I use works grea
[05:50] <robbie> Erin: I do that but the machine keeps disconnecting and reconnecting every few seconds
[05:50] <sargennto> hmmwhatsthisdo: just says Portal
[05:50] <ASHER1> !he
[05:50] <ASHER1> lol
[05:50] <robbie> Erin: that is *not* the right answer, ufortunately
[05:50] <Coburn> !kubuntu
[05:50] <Erin> robbie, idk is it wifi ?
[05:50] <mad-leigh> thank you