[08:46] <apokryphos> erm, yeah....
[08:46] <nalioth> r0xoR: /msg ubotu offtopic       please
[08:46] <syke> libdmb: any urls to follow?
[08:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> so is it true that linux should be used for servers and windows normal stuff?
[08:46] <r0xoR> penguinwhoflew, it's really mostly an opinion thing... but honestly i think KDE sux for one simple reason... the panel is not as good
[08:46] <CatalinuX> how can I run a script as root user silently at startup without being a root ?
[08:46] <libdmb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=899926&postcount=24
[08:46] <sped-afk> i need some help with the live cd i am new to linux and am having problems already
[08:46] <belkin> Mosi why ? slow connection ... ? dont wanna get rid of saed stuff ?
[08:46] <Frogzoo> Jether3: try this 'telnet www.google.com 80'   - do you see it connect?
[08:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> sped-afk: whats the problem?
[08:46] <belkin> saved
[08:46] <apokryphos> [CC] Impsy|NH: no, to speak for myself: I'm a zillion times more productive on gnu/linux
[08:46] <Mosi> belkin: configuration. i've done a lot.
[08:46] <r0xoR> penguinwhoflew, the panel the desktop pager and vim are all good reasons for me to stick with gnome :)
[08:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> apokryphos: thanks for the input
[08:46] <jeanjean> sped-afk:  whats the problem
[08:47] <MrGreen> I need gnome-bluetooth any ideas?
[08:47] <r0xoR> penguinwhoflew, notice that the default install of ubuntu comes with... tada... GNOME
[08:47] <[CC] Impsy|NH> speedy whats the problem
[08:47] <r0xoR> penguinwhoflew, *that* should tell you something about GNOME vs. KDE right there
[08:47] <Nameless`> apokryphos really depends on what you do eitherway to use linux/windows
[08:47] <B1zz> not Xubuntu tho... :-p
[08:47] <Frogzoo> r0xoR: ....ever notice that kubuntu comes with.... ;)
[08:47] <Nameless`> certain apps just won't do in linux
[08:47] <johnnyrusso> will the ubuntu install divvy up the 25GB unformatted space into the swap space and whatnot???
[08:47] <nalioth> r0xoR: penguinwhoflew: y'all are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss your topic
[08:47] <[CC] Impsy|NH> guys is it a pain to install stuff manually?
[08:47] <speedy> when i goto load ubuntu it blanks out cand shuts off my monitor
[08:47] <nalioth> johnnyrusso: if you want it to, it will
[08:47] <r0xoR> Frogzoo, ever notice that the first link on the ubuntu page doesn't take you to kubuntu?
[08:47] <MrGreen> could do with smart
[08:47] <johnnyrusso> nalioth: thnx
[08:48] <tatonka> Frogzoo: i extracted the .zip of adobe cs, now all files were extracted butm i selected "all files"
[08:48] <Frogzoo> r0xoR: :p
[08:48] <Ademan> [CC] Impsy | NH: linux is great for servers because you have the ability to NOT have 50000 daemons running at once, but yeah, there are programs that let you do all of the "normal stuff" on linux too, as long as you like the programs (I know I do, and i JSUT came from windows) you're fine on linux
[08:48] <belkin> Mosi tryed to complety remove xserver ? and reinstall it ?
[08:48] <MrGreen> !bluetooth
[08:48] <ubotu> I heard bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[08:48] <libdmb> syke: i think i found something
[08:48] <CatalinuX> how can I run a script as root user silently at startup without being a root ?
[08:48] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Ademan: thanks
[08:48] <ompaul> [CC] Impsy, not usually, but it is much better to say "how do I install X" and then best advice can be given
[08:48] <r0xoR> Frogzoo, ubuntu != kubuntu
[08:48] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Ademan: I have crappy windows 98 so i want to switch
[08:48] <libdmb> syke: someone vandilized the wiki
[08:48] <libdmb> its supposed to be this article:
[08:48] <libdmb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx?action=diff
[08:48] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: having trouble locating it?
[08:48] <phpmattk_> anyone ever use keytext for windoze.. keystroke macros.. for inserting bits of code, etc.. anyone know of any apps for nix that'll do the same
[08:48] <Frogzoo> tatonka: if there's a setup.exe there, try 'wine setup.exe'
[08:48] <CatalinuX> how can I run a script as root user silently at startup without being a root ?
[08:49] <Frogzoo> Jether4: ?
[08:49] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, hahah... use vim dawg :)
[08:49] <Ademan> [CC] Impsy | NH: like what do you mean manually? with the debian package system, just about everything is EASY, like braindead easy, you just check the package and hit apply and it installs, if by manually, you mean from source, thats a little more complicated... but not by much... at all...
[08:49] <Mosi> belkin: hadn't gone that far yet. i tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop and dpkg squawked at me, so i fed it a line it recommended and it's doing things now. gonna see how far that gets before i do anything drastic
[08:49] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, this is all I could find, and it's not "final" ('proposed' packages), but it's good enough I assume... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XubuntuProposedPackages
[08:49] <Jether4> Frogzoo, ok this is weird, telnet www.google.com says trying <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:49] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, vim has macros and scripts and lots of stuff
[08:49] <Jether4> Frogzoo,  so i ping google.com and its gets the ip
[08:49] <Frogzoo> CatalinuX: you put the script in /etc/rc2.d
[08:49] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, and intellisense if you want it :)
[08:49] <jordan> @find x-men
[08:49] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, i do all my PHP programming in gvim
[08:49] <Jether4> Frogzoo,  and then i telnet again and it gets the right ip and connets
[08:49] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, it mentions Listen, which has iPod support.  So to install Banshee if it isn't included you *would* need Internet access
[08:49] <tatonka> Frogzoo: do i need to include the dir with that
[08:49] <Frogzoo> Jether4: well <IP_ADDRESS> definitely isn't the right address
[08:49] <davor> hey guys
[08:50] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, vim has auto dictionary completion too... for long function names and stuff
[08:50] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: should have know.. gotta man vim then.. intellisense thats for within x i imagine?
[08:50] <CatalinuX> Frogzoo:  You mean copy/paste the contents of the script at the end of /etc/rc2.d ?
[08:50] <opp> is there a good data analysis like SPSS for Linux?
[08:50] <libdmb> syke: YAY, got it to work
[08:50] <Boglizk> I cant update to Dapper:S
[08:50] <libdmb> just two commands
[08:50] <Frogzoo> tatonka: not if you do it in the same directory, otherwise it will need a path, yes
[08:50] <Nameless`> opp lol
[08:50] <Jether4> Frogzoo, but after i ping, it gets the right address and then connects, its as though i need to ping it to get the address and then i can connect
[08:50] <belkin> Mosi yeah ok, you sholdnt do any dpkg as much as i remember i didnt last time i had problem with X
[08:50] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, no intellisense is only for integration with Visual Studio on windows
[08:50] <Nameless`> spss in linux.. is a no go
[08:50] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: oh.. well fsck windows
[08:50] <Nameless`> spss is a very task specific task
[08:50] <libdmb> syke: do this:
[08:50] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: so a program on it might have ipod supporT?
[08:50] <Nameless`> app :P
[08:50] <libdmb> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:50] <libdmb> sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[08:50] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, but the dictionary completion thing makes intellisense a mute point
[08:50] <Frogzoo> CatalinuX: take a look in rc2.d - just copy how the other scripts wortk
[08:50] <thansen|laptop> cafuego_: ping
[08:50] <MrGreen> where can I get gnome-bluetooth?
[08:50] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, i've got a nice vim config file that will knock your socks off probably :)
[08:51] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, apt-get install vim-x11
[08:51] <Ademan> [CC]  Impsy: there is a program with IPOD support on ubuntu
[08:51] <FR500> Seveas: i think you are the right person for this, there is a guy who wants to mantain an ifolder dapper repo, he mantains gentoo's repos, but he doesnt know much about deb package creation, maybe u can help him?
[08:51] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: paste bin it
[08:51] <davor> why do i get "error inserting tuner ..... unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter" when i try to "modprobe tuner type=37"? in dmesg it says that "tuner: unknown paramter 'type'"
[08:51] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, ohh, i'll do you one better... i'll give you my public FTP ;)
[08:51] <r0xoR> brb
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> amarokker, check under -d in the man page or here>> http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=8&topic=consolechars
[08:51] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: nice
[08:51] <davor> im trying to get my tvcard working, under v4l
[08:51] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, if Listen is on it, and it most likely is (you can confirm by asking on the forums, or someone who uses it), then Xubuntu will have a prog with iPod support
[08:51] <Seveas> FR500, I could but there are ubuntu people working on ifolder too. Maybe he can better contact<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:51] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, it's both a config file and a set of files in my local config dir
[08:52] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, so hold one one sec
[08:52] <opp> hmm, ok i found it:D
[08:52] <phpmattk_> k
[08:52] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: thanks ;]  if it has this program it will just detect on connection?
[08:52] <r0xoR> hmmm, phpmattk_ on dapper it's vim-gnome
[08:52] <speedy> my monitor shuts down and says out of range when i try to load ubunto 6.06 can someone help me with that?
[08:52] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, on breezy it's vim-x11
[08:52] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, just so you know...
[08:52] <Nameless`> opp you are an economical student that you use spss?
[08:52] <opp> http://root.cern.ch/ - rOOt and http://root.cern.ch/ - Grace
[08:52] <phpmattk_> r0xoR ok
[08:52] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, oh and i would personally recommend going out and getting vim 7.0
[08:52] <whiter> whats the configuration editor called, the executable's name
[08:52] <FR500> Seveas: ok, i gave him your name anyways, just in case
[08:53] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, probably, my camera is auto-detected when plugged in, but once again I don't have an iPod so can't say for sure
[08:53] <whiter> gnome-conf ?
[08:53] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, it's the latest version and it's been out for about a month i think
[08:53] <whiter> i forget...
[08:53] <opp> http://www.oz9aec.dk/software/
[08:53] <Frogzoo> Jether4: ok, your router's not playing dice, for some reason - that <IP_ADDRESS> address is just wrong...what's the router make/model?
[08:53] <tf4> any way i can write to menu.lst file? ubuntu wont let me
[08:53] <Nameless`> off
[08:53] <tatonka> Frogzoo: i ran the exe, i got some errors and now its locked up on the setup screen
[08:53] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: how about my drivers, i have an ati driver and it seems like some people have problems with them?
[08:53] <Frogzoo> tf4: sudo
[08:53] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, but 6.4 is ok... the main new features in vim 7 are gui tabs and bug fixes
[08:53] <tf4> k thx
[08:53] <syke> libdmb: I get this error: E: Couldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:53] <julien_c> I've just upgraded from breezy to dapper 6.06, and having no sound at all... anyone had that issue too ?
[08:53] <Sub> tf4, use the alacarte menu editor
[08:53] <Weirdbro> Firefox sound is broke
[08:53] <tf4> do  a sudo pico on it?
[08:53] <Jether4> Frogzoo, ermm not sure, but its not a well known make, what do i need to cinfigure?
[08:53] <libdmb> syke: you have to turn on the correct repositories
[08:53] <ompaul> tf4, be careful, sudo nano
[08:53] <libdmb> goto synaptic
[08:53] <goodtimes> whenever I try to install dapper and I get ready to setup the partitions some of the partitions have a lock next to them and I cant adjust them, how can I get around this?
[08:53] <libdmb> and goto repositories
[08:54] <Frogzoo> tatonka: ok, from here you need to go read appdb.winehq.org for that app, & if that doesn't work - try #winehq
[08:54] <FR500> Seveas: his nick is thansen
[08:54] <libdmb> goto ubuntu 6.06 lts
[08:54] <syke> libdmb: synaptic?
[08:54] <vincenz> dapper out?
[08:54] <tatonka> Frogzoo: i read that page, it didnt help me any
[08:54] <ompaul> vincenz, 3 days
[08:54] <syke> (I'm using kubuntu, btw)
[08:54] <sambrista> Hi, anyone knows which package do i need to use gnomevfs in python scripts??
[08:54] <donfilipo> does anyone has an idea why ati open source drivers lock on dapper??? but they work fine on debian sarge...tested on simple game called ebonoo got 150FPS on Dapper it just freezes the machine and after instaling the fglrx drivers got a lot of errors and 1FPS
[08:54] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: i'll have to snag that, dont think i have it yet
[08:54] <Frogzoo> Jether4: dunno - I'm looking for a make/model to google against - other peeps will have had the same problem
[08:54] <libdmb> syke: under System=>Administration
 I've just upgraded from breezy to dapper 6.06, and having no sound at all... anyone had that issue too ?; i have even that now...sometimes... the fix would be to restart you system(seriously)
[08:54] <vincenz> ompaul: Since 3 days or 3 more dayS?
[08:54] <Jether4> Frogzoo, ok ermm well it says guru
[08:54] <ompaul> vincenz, 3 days ago
[08:55] <vincenz> how do I update?
[08:55] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, yes, ati drivers are pretty sticky from what I understand.  I don't have one, but people *do* get them to work, it's apparently just a trial to do so.  Ubuntu forums are pretty good, though, and should help you
[08:55] <Frogzoo> Jether4: guru router ? lol
[08:55] <julien_c> opp: ok thanks I'll try it
[08:55] <Frogzoo> Jether4: that's all?
[08:55] <ompaul> !upgrade
[08:55] <ubotu> I heard upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[08:55] <Jether4> Frogzoo, i know... erm hold on
[08:55] <syke> libdmb: I'm using KUbuntu -- I don't see that
[08:55] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: Yea, ive been reading around. I'll see what i can do once I get Xubuntu installed. I also had to get my serial mouse working on the LiveCD because it wasnt responding./
[08:55] <Jether4> Frogzoo, Safecom
[08:56] <johnnyrusso> this chat room is pretty helpful
[08:56] <Jether4> Frogzoo, thats the make
[08:56] <whiter> anyone know what the executable's name is... the configuration editor
[08:56] <tatonka> Frogzoo: do u reccomend any other programs that can run cs
[08:56] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, ok i tarballed it lemme upload, brb
[08:56] <crimsun> whiter: for gnome? it's gconf-editor
[08:56] <sambrista> Hi, anyone knows what do i need to use gnomevfs in python scripts??
[08:56] <opp> julien_c - i hope this helps
[08:56] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: k
[08:56] <vincenz> how do I update to dapper?
[08:56] <whiter> thank you.
[08:56] <opp> at least for me it dows, sometimes
[08:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell vincenz about upgrade
[08:56] <crimsun> vincenz: see the topic.
[08:56] <opp> dose*
[08:56] <speedy> my monitor shuts down and says out of range when i try to load ubuntu live 6.06 can someone help me with that?
[08:56] <BioVorE> syke: adept dose the package managment in kubuntu (or is one of the package management tools)
[08:56] <opp> does*
[08:57] <kent_> I am getting the following errors upgrading to dapper drake  Failed to fetch http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/breezy/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[08:57] <kent_> Failed to fetch http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/breezy/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[08:57] <tf4> is there a graphical way to edit the grub?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> kent_: comment that repo out
[08:57] <tf4> instead of using the menu.lst
[08:57] <vincenz> crimsun: is it preferred to clean install or to upgrade?
[08:57] <whiter> also, whats the executable launched when you right click the desktop and click create launcher... can someone xprop that for me and find out what executable it calls?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> kent_: comment all the non offical repos out
[08:57] <johnnyrusso> im using the amd64 version, will i have problems with drivers and stuff like that?
[08:57] <tf4> even a better boot loader
[08:57] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, that's surprising.  I'm sure an IRC client comes with Xubuntu, so just fire 'er up
[08:57] <Chri[s] > how do you take screen shoots in linux ?
[08:57] <crimsun> vincenz: that's up to you.
[08:57] <DPackrat> Have a question about courier-imap - I can connect in Outlook but it says I don't have write permissions  or the folder is full. I tried the telnet connect to see if it worked, and I connected, but it said that Inbox did not exist
[08:57] <syke> bio: yea -- my configs were fucked
[08:57] <libdmb> syke: im not sure, but look at this:
[08:57] <libdmb> http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[08:57] <syke> everything was commented out
[08:57] <syke> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[08:57] <gnomefreak> P0ldy: irssi comes preinstalled
[08:57] <libdmb> add restricted
[08:58] <libdmb> and all of the other ones
[08:58] <cipi604> hello, how can i force an ethernet card to start at just 10mb/s at every restart? the command for this is sudo ethtool -s eth2 autoneg on speed 10 duplex full
[08:58] <logical_mark> Hey guys - anyone in here have success with getting your Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG to work?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> skippy81: language please
[08:58] <gnomefreak> oops
[08:58] <SillyRabbit> How can I install a DEB package in UBUNTU ?
[08:58] <wims> Does anybody know about joysticks in linux? Where should i look to find out about it ?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> not skippy81 syke
[08:58] <ompaul> gnomefreak, just message it
[08:58] <syke> ok there is goes
[08:58] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, well there you go, irssi is in Xubuntu.  thanks, gnomefreak
[08:58] <syke> gnome: english
[08:58] <ompaul> gnomefreak, just messaged it (d'oh)
[08:58] <wims> SillyRabbit, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[08:58] <gnomefreak> P0ldy: yw
[08:58] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, ok
[08:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell syke about language
[08:58] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: why would i use an IRC clinet?
[08:58] <ompaul> syke, no bad lanugage we keep this place G rated thanks
[08:58] <kent_> How do I comment out packages so they won't get installed?
[08:59] <libdmb> !language
[08:59] <speedy> my monitor shuts down and says out of range when i try to run ubuntu live 6.06 can someone help me with that? I use an ATI 9600 AIW.
[08:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:59] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, if you have problems when you get it installed
[08:59] <syke> oh christ
[08:59] <syke> this isn't like #debian is it?
[08:59] <Frogzoo> Jether4: is the connection between the pc & router ethernet or usb?
[08:59] <Jether4> Frogzoo, ethernet
[08:59] <gnomefreak> ty
[08:59] <ompaul> syke, 10 mins
[08:59] <johnnyrusso> u guys think i can have everything but games running on 25gb
[08:59] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: heh we've been talking about that banshee program because the computer im installing it on has no internt :p
[08:59] <libdmb> syke: enable multiverse also
[09:00] <johnnyrusso> and can ubuntu read ntfs yet?
[09:00] <cipi604> hello, how can i force an ethernet card to start at just 10mb/s at every restart?? the command for this is sudo ethtool -s eth2 autoneg on speed 10 duplex full
[09:00] <johnnyrusso> read and write?
[09:00] <alextai> Does anybody know why DVD releases link was taken out of ubuntu d/w page?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> johnnyrusso: ubuntu always able to read ntfs just no write support
[09:00] <B1zz> I have installed Firestarter firewall on my system.  i decided i did not want to use it for now, so i unistalled it .  Now when i make a new connection, it wont let anything thru like the firewall was still there.  I searched for the package and moved the actuall firewall to my home folder, when i run the script to shutdown my net connection works, how can i get rid of the firewall completeley?
[09:00] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, ah, well nevermind then...
[09:00] <Ademan> how do you execute a python script from the command line?
[09:00] <johnnyrusso> ah
[09:00] <DPackrat> Have a question about courier-imap - I can connect in Outlook but it says I don't have write permissions  or the folder is full. I tried the telnet connect to see if it worked, and I connected, but it said that Inbox did not exist
[09:00] <johnnyrusso> thnx gnomefreak is there ANY way to get write support?
[09:00] <tatonka> Frogzoo: where did u say to ask for help with wine
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Ademan: python file.py
[09:00] <gnomefreak> johnnyrusso: not safely
[09:01] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: lol, im getting a wireless router soon and putting in a wireless card into the computer, will it work?
[09:01] <r0xoR> johnnyrusso, of course there is
[09:01] <speedy> my monitor shuts down and says out of range when i try to run ubuntu live 6.06 can someone help me with that? I use an ATI 9600 AIW.
[09:01] <Ademan> gnomefreak: well, if it has the correct shabang, is there another way?
[09:01] <r0xoR> johnnyrusso, in the very worst case scenario you simply recompile your kernel
[09:01] <whiter> anyonek know what application is launched when you right click the desktop and goto "Create Launcher"
[09:01] <whiter> ?
[09:01] <mrw> Hey, is that fancy network manager for my wireless installed by default or??  Do I need to install it?
[09:01] <DarkRavenMixage> i need help i can't get mp3 files working on totem... i already installer totem-xine but in dapper drake mp3 won't work :( plz help me
[09:01] <r0xoR> whiter, ps ax?
[09:01] <whiter> or if you dont can you please do that and then run xprop on the window it launches?
[09:01] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, heh, research research research.  Buy the card that supports Linux the best... do NOT buy broadcom.
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Ademan: that should run it
[09:01] <johnnyrusso> hmmmm
[09:01] <r0xoR> whiter, plus diff should tell you
[09:01] <whiter> r0xoR i dont have it installed
[09:01] <svigi_wlan> darkravenmixage: me too, i use xmms
[09:01] <bolsh> update-manager rocks
[09:01] <whiter> thats why im asking
[09:01] <johnnyrusso> but fat32 cant hold dvd size images can it?
[09:01] <svigi_wlan> so mpeg playing sucks
[09:01] <johnnyrusso> can windows read ext yet lol?
[09:02] <r0xoR> whiter, uhhh
[09:02] <speedy> my monitor shuts down and says out of range when i try to run ubuntu live 6.06 can someone help me with that? I use an ATI 9600 AIW.
[09:02] <BioVorE> johnnyrusso: google ext2fsd
[09:02] <r0xoR> johnnyrusso, no i think fast32 is limited to 2G
[09:02] <svigi_wlan> fat32 maximum file size is 4gb if I know well
[09:02] <SillyRabbit> wims:  thanks mate.  it looks like there are some dependencies missing (libglademm) ?
[09:02] <Frogzoo> tatonka: try appdb.winehq.org first, then #winehq
[09:02] <whiter> r0xoR - please run that and then run xprop on the window it launches for me
[09:02] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: ok, ill try to not screw up.
[09:02] <svigi_wlan> www.fs-driver.org
[09:02] <Ademan> gnomefreak: I know, but i guess is there ANOTHER way? like say... just typing the filename/path into the console? if it has the right shebang will it execute?
[09:02] <svigi_wlan> www.fs-driver.org
[09:02] <johnnyrusso> yes i believe its 4GB
[09:02] <cowbud> after my first install and reboot of ubuntu for ppc I get a gnome-settings-daemon restarted too much error and then nautilus can't start due to an error from bonobo and the bonobo-activation server with a error code 3 and then gnome doesn't load anymore any ideas?
[09:02] <tatonka> frogzoo: ok thanks
[09:02] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: is it very hard to install stuff manually?
[09:02] <svigi_wlan> ext2/ext3 read-write support in windows
[09:02] <johnnyrusso> thnx svigi
[09:02] <johnnyrusso> is it free svigi_wlan?
[09:03] <svigi_wlan> yes, it is:)
[09:03] <BioVorE> :-)
[09:03] <johnnyrusso> wow
[09:03] <svigi_wlan> but be careful
[09:03] <Chri[s] > Well guys i Rule
[09:03] <Frogzoo> Jether4: seems the safecom routers have 'issues' from what I read - only soln is upgrade the firmware
[09:03] <svigi_wlan> with the journal
[09:03] <speedy> my monitor shuts down and says out of range when i try to run ubuntu live 6.06 can someone help me with that? I use an ATI 9600 AIW.
[09:03] <johnnyrusso> what journal?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Ademan: that i dont know if you put it in right dir im sure you can also if ou change the permissions you should be able to run it with ./ i think
[09:03] <svigi_wlan> you can mount ext3 as ext2 with ignoring the journal but when you reboot into linux
[09:03] <svigi_wlan> it will fsck:)
[09:03] <Jether4> Frogzoo, oh, but the issues are only with linux? not windows?
[09:03] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, if you're talking about downloading packages to copy to CD to put on the comp without Internet, it's not that difficult to install them.  You shouldn't ever have to compile from source, another 'manual' option
[09:03] <guptan> is there any difference the way ubuntu and kubuntu manage WiFi?
[09:03] <r0xoR> whiter, it doesn't give an actual command name, sorry
[09:04] <whiter> it gives a process name tho
[09:04] <whiter> the PID
[09:04] <whiter> then ps -A and tell me what that was
[09:04] <whiter> :)
[09:04] <johnnyrusso> svigi_wlan: i see, i think u may have solved some serious problems for me. thnx
[09:04] <DarkRavenMixage> i need help i can't get mp3 files working on totem... i already installer totem-xine but in dapper drake mp3 won't work :( plz help me
[09:04] <gnomefreak> guptan: just the interface i think (dont quote me on that)
[09:04] <guptan> my belkin usb wifi card is working fine with kubuntu and fails to work in ubuntu (even freezes the system)
[09:04] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: i burned another cd earlier with linux games and stuff to keep me entertained, how would i install these?
[09:04] <svigi_wlan> johnnyrusso: np:) and I removed the journal with the tune2fs -O ^has_journal
[09:04] <gnomefreak> DarkRavenMixage: did you install the xine codecs?
[09:04] <whiter> r0xor - its something like this _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 2934
[09:05] <svigi_wlan> before that mounting it read-only:)
[09:05] <Frogzoo> Jether4: have you tried rebooting the router?
[09:05] <ompaul> whiter, its kind of anonymous: its an inbuild into gnome as far as I can see
[09:05] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak let me control...
[09:05] <tzar> is there a wireless connection manager program? also, how do i get my synaptic to download packages from the test distro?
[09:05] <whiter> it isnt ompaul
[09:05] <svigi_wlan> johnnyrusso: and change it in fstab to ext2
[09:05] <r0xoR> whiter, gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new /home/user/Desktop
[09:05] <whiter> thank you
[09:05] <speedy> my monitor shuts down and says out of range when i try to run ubuntu live 6.06 can someone help me with that? I use an ATI 9600 AIW.
[09:05] <Jether4> Frogzoo, no, i will do now, and ill reboot ubuntu just in case, be back in a few mins
[09:05] <r0xoR> whiter, np
[09:05] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak what is the name of the package for xine codecs?
[09:05] <mrw> Network manager?  Anyone?  You know what I"m talking about?  Graphical, does WPA, etc?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell DarkRavenMixage -about mp3
[09:05] <mrw> Is that installed by default with Dapper
[09:05] <mrw> ?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> DarkRavenMixage: that link should tell you
[09:06] <svigi_wlan> kwifimanager i think??
[09:06] <troy_s> speedy:  hard to change ati settings on the livecd
[09:06] <svigi_wlan> just synaptic for it
[09:06] <guptan> gnomefreak: do you have any idea why it is like that
[09:06] <Sjoerd-> hello, i have installed dapper server but skipped the network part because I had not yet plugged a network cable. I have now, what do I do to connect and test my network?
[09:06] <wims> does anybody know how i can make my joysticks (or wheel and pedals actually) work under Ubuntu ?
[09:06] <ransu> question: how to change screen resolution for terminal access in bootloader or somewhere? - I've installed basic ubuntu-dd-server and have have a 78x25 line TTY - would be convenient to have more characters on screen when using aptitude...
[09:06] <johnnyrusso> couldnt i just make all my linux drives ext2 to start?
[09:06] <troy_s> speedy:  if it were installed on your drive, it would be quite easy to solve that problem.
[09:06] <gnomefreak> guptan: nope
[09:06] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak thank you man you are the best ;P i solved the problem with cedega in the end :P i installed an older xlibs :)
[09:06] <doped1> my sound doesnt work, alsa has detected my chip correct.. and it worked in breezy.. what can the problem be?
[09:07] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:07] <Ademan> what's /usr/bin/env ? what does that program do?
[09:07] <svigi_wlan> doped1, me too, and I have emu 1212m
[09:07] <Sjoerd-> thanks
[09:07] <ompaul> whiter,  asdf on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:07] <r0xoR> sjoerd, otherwise you'll probably have to set up your networking manually if that doesn't work
[09:07] <svigi_wlan> doesn't sound
[09:07] <speedy> so troy_s how could i install it on my hard drive?
[09:07] <Blake7984> got ubuntu installed and booting well...got windows on hd0,0...it was empty and i just re-ghosted my windows image (pre-ubuntu) on to that partition...in grub i try the normal commands to boot windows, but it doesnt boot...any suggestions to try?
[09:07] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, good question.  You'll probably use the dpkg command to install .deb files, but I'm not sure how that factors in dependencies.  I've never installed on an internet-less comp
[09:07] <Chri[s] > gnomefreak, i agree that gnome rules.  I hear alot of talk about kde but gnome is where its at
[09:07] <luisa> how are you ?
[09:07] <troy_s> speedy:  if you use an install cd, it should be quite simple.
[09:07] <tzar> mrw, do you know a good network manager?
[09:07] <r0xoR> Chri[s] , gnomefreak, yay GNOME! :)
[09:07] <svigi_wlan> blake7984: root hd(0,0)  chainloader +1
[09:07] <svigi_wlan> try it
[09:07] <doubleoseven> any ideas how i could fix this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187877 ?
[09:08] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: Ok, ill probably search and find something on that as well.
[09:08] <troy_s> speedy:  i don't know how to accomplish that from the live -- someone in here might be able to help you further from the live, otherwise just download the install.
[09:08] <Blake7984> svigi_wlan thats what ive been trying, no luck with it
[09:08] <doped1> hw sound work aswell
[09:08] <gnomefreak> Ademan: that looks like the person tried with that line it should be #!/usr/bin/python or /usr/bin/env python
[09:08] <svigi_wlan> no chainloader?
[09:08] <Blake7984> svigi_wlan wait is it   (hd0,0)   or hd(0,0)
[09:08] <svigi_wlan> ermm
[09:08] <Blake7984> ive tried with an without chainloader...it wont let me do "boot" until i do chainloader +1
[09:08] <[CC] Impsy|NH> guys is the alternate cd a straight-forward install?
[09:08] <] GoldenDragon> hmm.. is there a way I can get the "BSOD" screensaver from Breezy? It seems that Dapper removed it.
[09:08] <Chri[s] > gnomefreak, I installed kde via kubuntu-desktop and i didnt like so i went back to gnome-desktop, and now i have kde applications in my gnome menu
[09:08] <donfilipo> halo anyone got ati radeon 8500 to 9500 running on Dapper????
[09:08] <Ademan> gnomefreak: yeah i was wondering why one would use the one on the right, is it like a sandbox or something?
[09:09] <Frogzoo> [CC] Impsy|NH: the alternate cd is for upgrade only
[09:09] <troy_s> 007
[09:09] <guptan> My belkin usb wifi card is working fine with kubuntu but fails to work in ubuntu (even freezes the system) Please help me to make it work with Ubuntu
[09:09] <cowbud> what is that activate X or something that has a whole bunch of standard ubuntu packages to install?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> Ademan: env means to envoke it its extra letters that dont do anything afaik
[09:09] <Ademan> gnomefreak: and i just hadta change permission to executable and it ran (as long as i had one of those two shebang lines)
[09:09] <majd> hey
[09:09] <svigi_wlan> blake7984: root		(hd0,0)
[09:09] <doubleoseven> does anyone know how i could fix this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187877 ?
[09:09] <troy_s> 007: you can right click on file type of given extension and set it to open with a given program
[09:09] <Blake7984> svigi_wlan ok yea, thats what ive been doing
[09:09] <svigi_wlan> its the tabulator character:)
[09:09] <majd> what vnc server do you recommend? the built-in one is giving me trouble
[09:09] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Frogzoo: someone told me to use the alternate cd if the livecd ddin work
[09:09] <Blake7984> i dont need a tab do i?
[09:09] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Frogzoo: *didnt work
[09:09] <Blake7984> im doing it manually on command line
[09:09] <phpmattk_> majd: tightvnc
[09:09] <troy_s> majd:  vnc is horribly not secure
[09:09] <capgadget> realvnc from realvnc.com works well
[09:09] <gsven> alacarte is broken here (new dapper) anyone can confirm this?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> Chri[s] : gnome/kde talk needs to be in #ubuntu-offtopic due to there being around 1000 people in here at any given time
[09:10] <troy_s> majd:  learn to use ssh
[09:10] <capgadget> Some like tightvnc
[09:10] <phpmattk_> troy_s ovewr ssh tunnel
[09:10] <doped1> i've used alternate cuz live didn't work properly
[09:10] <] GoldenDragon> hmm.. is there a way I can get the "BSOD" screensaver from Breezy? It seems that Dapper removed it.
[09:10] <capgadget> You can ssh tunnel vnc
[09:10] <svigi_wlan> chainloader skips the filesystem that grub can't read, and loads ntldr, etc. if exists
[09:10] <P0ldy> gsven, Alacarte works for me
[09:10] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, did you get my vim configs?
[09:10] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, did you try gvim yet?
[09:10] <doped1> but my sound wont work
[09:10] <jhenn> who is having a problem with their screen refreshing slowly?
[09:10] <rambo3> you?
[09:10] <majd> troy_s, isn't ssh just like save ftp?
[09:10] <ompaul> gnomefreak, you got pm
[09:10] <troy_s> majd:  it is far more than that.
[09:10] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: not yet.. soon enough
[09:10] <gsven> alacarte takes 2 Seconds 100% cpu time and changes are not commited to panel
[09:10] <[CC] Impsy|NH> are you sure??
[09:10] <[CC] Impsy|NH> cant i use the alternate cd of xubuntu to install it
[09:10] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i saw ty
[09:11] <ompaul> np
[09:11] <doubleoseven> troy_s, its just that it is doing this with all my movie files when i open them as my user
[09:11] <Blake7984> svigi_wlan the image of the ntfs windows drive before evre touching ubuntu is the one i just wrote back to hd0,0...so i assume that partition should be perfect for booting
[09:11] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, well i'd like to demonstrate a couple things for you, just take a couple seconds
[09:11] <troy_s> majd:  you can remote x apps using ssh, you can copy files, etc.
[09:11] <majd> !ssh
[09:11] <phpmattk_> majd: very good article easy to follow.. vnc over ssh
[09:11] <ubotu> ssh is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[09:11] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, and i've got to leave soon
[09:11] <Gio2k> i can't connect with amule 2.1.0
[09:11] <cowbud> and i fixed my problem REPRESENT
[09:11] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: i think too:)
[09:11] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak where is the configuration interface to activate 5.1 surround on ubuntu?
[09:11] <svigi_wlan> what does it say?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> sybariten: your unmutted now
[09:11] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: will i be able to use the Xubuntu alternate cd to install?
[09:11] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, so if you'd do it sooner rather than later that'd be better for both of us cuz then you can see what's so cool about vim and this config setup :)
[09:11] <troy_s> doubleoseven:  simply right click on a file of given type and set it to open using xxx
[09:11] <Gio2k> i can't connect with amule 2.1.0, keep getting 'connection lost', anyone knows what to do?
[09:11] <troy_s> doubleoseven:  properties iirc
[09:11] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: i'd love to.. but i only have terminal access to my ubuntu box right now
[09:11] <gnomefreak> DarkRavenMixage: i still havent set mine up sorry
[09:11] <Blake7984> nothing...after i type "boot" and press enter...it sits there never doing anything...screen doesnt go blank or anything, it just sits there as if i never pushed enter on boot
[09:11] <DarkRavenMixage> lol
[09:11] <DarkRavenMixage> i can't find a wiki
[09:11] <r0xoR> oh, don't need gvim
[09:12] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak lol i can't find a wiki
[09:12] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, everything works in terminal vim too :)
[09:12] <sambrista> I'm writing a python script and i have an error here: (unknown error) z = gnomevfs.get_local_path_from_uri(sys.argv[1] ). In breezy it worked but now it doesn't. Can anybody help me? I import os, sys and gnomevfs
[09:12] <gnomefreak> DarkRavenMixage: i dont remember there being one
[09:12] <sambrista> (now i mean in dapper)
[09:12] <Amaranth> gsven: the resource usage is a known problem (won't get fixed until edgy) but there shouldn't be any other problems
[09:12] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: oh.. sweet.. k, lemme copy that stuff over then
[09:12] <gsven> P0ldy, alacarte is broken reproducable on clean user profiles and on another dapper system as well
[09:12] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, I'm not sure what you mean by 'alternate CD'.  There should be a Xubuntu-installation CD.
[09:12] <doped1> how to retrived sound log file, to see what can be wrong and why it wont work
[09:12] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: does your parition have ntldr?
[09:12] <doubleoseven> troy_s, properties iirc?
[09:12] <majd> troy_s, is "Logging in to a remote computer over ssh" the same as vnc?
[09:12] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: and the bootsector is ok?
[09:12] <[CC] Impsy|NH> P0ldy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/ there is an alternate cd section
[09:12] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, yeh vim and gvim are still roughly equivalent... the only difference is that gvim adds some things like menus, buttons and nicer colorschemes
[09:12] <FlyingSquirrel32> I have a ATi Rage Mobility 128 AGP 2X video card in my dell c600. Can someone show me directions to get the 3d graphics working?
[09:12] <P0ldy> gsven, strange, my Dapper's up to date and it works.
[09:12] <carthik_zzz> So how do i use the Ubuntu desktop cd to install the old fashioned way, without trying out the live cd
[09:12] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, otherwise, the core functionality is still the same
[09:12] <Blake7984> i would think it has ntldr yea...and how can i verify the bootsector of it
[09:12] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: try using the xp recovery console, and fixboot command
[09:12] <tzar> is there a wireless connection manager program?
[09:13] <Blake7984> thought about that, wont that screw up grub?
[09:13] <phpmattk_> majd: http://pigtail.net/LRP/vnc/  woops, didnt paste the link
[09:13] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Frogzoo are you positive?
[09:13] <capgadget> mjad normally ssh is command line vnc is windowed
[09:13] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak an old wiki tells to enter audio options and set the right number o fchannels, but there isn't an options for audio card channels :/
[09:13] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: don't modify the MBR
[09:13] <majd> phpmattk_, yeah i was looking for it lol
[09:13] <ransu> question: what part of linux defines the initial login TTY screen resolution? is a bootloader option or some conf file related to the user account?
[09:13] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: only the boot sector of your ntfs volume
[09:13] <Blake7984> oh fixboot wont mess with mbr?
[09:13] <Frogzoo> [CC] Impsy|NH: no - that's just what I hear
[09:13] <grasshopper> anyone know about making dvd play?
[09:13] <Jether5> Frogzoo, still dosen't work, but i can ping, and i can type the ip address into ff and it works, but "www.google.com" dosen't work
[09:13] <cyberix> I upgraded to Dapper. Now my system locks up at boot while trying to start gdm, I think. I can use the system, if I boot the system in recovery mode and run /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:13] <gnomefreak> DarkRavenMixage: im not real sure i plan on setting mine up in a week or so
[09:13] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, i.e. if i want to i can have a console vim that looks and works identical to my gvim, only difference being i'm using a console vim *through* xterm, *through* ssh... :)
[09:13] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: i think, no
[09:13] <gnomefreak> on this pc i have no speakers
[09:13] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Frogzoo: lmao ok because the d/l just finished and i am not spending more time d/ling the other
[09:13] <Blake7984> i hate trying to boot that damn windows disc.....using raid...and i have no floppy drive in pc....and windows requires floppy for loading drivers :\
[09:13] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, i used to use console vim through ssh all the time... saves on having to download and upload files via ftp :)
[09:14] <Frogzoo> Jether5: try a firmware upgrade I'd say: take a read of: http://www.sdsltech.com/portal/show_news.asp?NewsID=4037
[09:14] <doped1> anyone else sound wont work in dapper?
[09:14] <grasshopper> anyone know about Mit Xv extensions?
[09:14] <svigi_wlan> Blake7984: oh yes, it sucks, you nave to press f6 and load it:\
[09:14] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, and *then* i found out about netrw... and so now i don't even need to use ssh
[09:14] <svigi_wlan> raid 0?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> brb rebooting (hoping this will help)
[09:14] <Blake7984> raid 1
[09:14] <phpmattk_> yeah.. im using putty from doze (ew).. over ssh
[09:14] <julien_c> doped1: yes me too
[09:14] <svigi_wlan> can anyone help me using hostapd?
[09:14] <gsven> P0ldy, Amaranth, i try to rename the folder "Unterhaltungsmedien" (which is Sound & Video in english) to "Sound & Video", but no change appears. Other changes dont go into the menu as well.
[09:14] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, heheh yeah i used that for a while at this one company i worked for cuz they would only let me have windows
[09:14] <doped1> it weird , cuz it worked in breezy
[09:14] <julien_c> doped1: didn't find a working solution yet :(
[09:15] <doped1> shit :(
[09:15] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, now i work for myself and i use ubuntu... yay!
[09:15] <doubleoseven> troy_s, its not that i didnt set a default app to open it with its more that it gives a security error when i do this.
[09:15] <FlyingSquirrel32> I have a ATi Rage Mobility 128 AGP 2X video card in my dell c600. Can someone show me directions to get the 3d graphics working?
[09:15] <Sjoerd-> r0xoR: I have typed your command. What do I do next? How to test if it iw working etc?
[09:15] <doped1> but hw sounds work
[09:15] <DarkRavenMixage> ubotu tell DarkRavenMixage -about xvid
[09:15] <capgadget> putty is cool exspecially over winders and people actually pay for a windows ssh program?
[09:15] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, ping google.com
[09:15] <doped1> in my laptop trough the speakers
[09:15] <P0ldy> [CC] Impsy|NH, if the computer you're installing on has less than 128MB of RAM, maybe so.  Not sure, really
[09:15] <Sjoerd-> r0xoR: gave out unknown host
[09:15] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, actually run: ifconfig
[09:15] <troy_s> ubotu, tell grasshopper about dvd
[09:15] <Touru> Jether5: Make sure you've got the right DNS server.
[09:15] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, you should see eth0 and lo0
[09:15] <Chri[s] > Okay
[09:16] <Chri[s] > So like do i have to repeat myself?
[09:16] <r0xoR> sjoerd, eth0 should have an ip associated with it
[09:16] <majd> how do i get the ip of the machine i'm on right now? (www.whatismyip.com returns the external ip)
[09:16] <julien_c> FlyingSquirrel32: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html, in the 3D Graphic Cards section and below for ATi
[09:16] <P0ldy> gsven, I just tried to change 'Internet' to 'Stuff' and it worked.  Sorry I can't help there.
[09:16] <r0xoR> majd, ifconfig
[09:16] <^Ocean^> is there an Add on for firefox that will let me view all the Variables that its keeping stored,  that get sent to webpages
[09:16] <syke> libdmb: ok, installed fwcutter and ran than shell script
[09:16] <Chri[s] > n/m i need to reinstall gnome
[09:16] <Jether5> Touru, the address is correct it just <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:16] <r0xoR> majd, way to pay attention to what was already said :P
[09:16] <syke> libdmb: will iwconfig just work now?
[09:16] <^Ocean^> like when I fill out a forum and etc ..
[09:16] <Sjoerd-> r0xoR: Thanks, I am going to try it. Have only one screen: brb :) Can't wait until SSH is up and running.
[09:16] <libdmb> syke: yes
[09:16] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 am glad i am not alone....same here 3d no work on radeon 9000 trxing 2 days
[09:16] <IRC> what is the terminal command to edit sources.list?
[09:17] <majd> lol my bad r0xoR
[09:17] <P0ldy> IRC, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <libdmb> libdmb: on ubuntu, there is network settings, and there i hit ad and it will show networkis
[09:17] <r0xoR> majd, np
[09:17] <libdmb> not sure about kde
[09:17] <IRC> P0ldy: thanks buddy
[09:17] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, dotvim.tbz2 will auto extract to .vim/
[09:17] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, but you need it to be in your home dir
[09:17] <doubleoseven> troy_s, its not that i didnt set a default app to open it with its more that it gives a security error when i do this.
[09:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo: yeah, the other day I was trying to get a radeon working on my laptop, but havn't got it yet. Now i'm trying to help a friend
[09:18] <troy_s> doubleoseven:  asf perhaps?  asx?
[09:18] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 please tell me if it works for you...al that fglrx and other
[09:18] <Sjoerd-> r0xoR: <IP_ADDRESS> :(
[09:18] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, the main things i wanted to point out in my config are: ALT-hjkl (any mode) and CTRL-f (insert mode)
[09:18] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, yeah that's lo0
[09:18] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, does ifconfig list eth0 ?
[09:18] <troy_s> doubleoseven:  some wrappers by crap companies are nothing more than metareferences to network things... this means that they want to open up sockets to connect -- hence security issues.
[09:18] <gsven> P0ldy, works here too, try renaming it to "Stuff & more" should not work
[09:18] <grasshopper> troy i 've installed my stuff
[09:19] <Sjoerd-> I nowhere saw the word eth0
[09:19] <] GoldenDragon> what software can I use to transfer MP3s to my Rio mp3 player?
[09:19] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: almost there... windows is making moving these files around more than fun
[09:19] <Sjoerd-> There is only one network interface
[09:19] <syke> libdmb: hm, I still see "Access point invalid" in iwconfig :(
[09:19] <troy_s> grasshopper:  and you did a 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine' ?
[09:19] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, heheh
[09:19] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, i know how that goes... man you should get cygwin dood
[09:19] <P0ldy> gsven, now my "Internet" is "Stuff & More".  No issues.
[09:19] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, xterm is with ssh is *way* more configurable and usable than putty IMO
[09:19] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, putty is still pre-version-1.0
[09:20] <cowbud> how do you activate the second mouse button on ppc?
[09:20] <grasshopper> troy_s: indeed i have totem-xine but it is slow. the mouse sticks
[09:20] <mrw> I'm sorry, I asked this earlier, but I'm still really confused.  Where is this new network manager?  I can't find it.  THis was like the one reason I switched over to dapper
[09:20] <belkin> !ipod
[09:20] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[09:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo: i tried the hardware section of the getting started section of ubuntu help (System>Help), but I think that is for a newer version than I have.
[09:20] <^Ocean^> is there an Add on for firefox that will let me view all the Varibles it send during a "Post" to a website ?
[09:20] <phpmattk_> r0xoR : yeah.. not a bad idea.. i installed it the other day for rsync.. but removed it when i was done
[09:20] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, and honestly i don't think anyone's put any work into putty for the past ten years :)
[09:20] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, the default cygwin install isn't too big
[09:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo: mine is older than yours
[09:20] <grasshopper> troy_s: i've got 512mb ram is that enough, it used to be in breezy
[09:20] <diop> can someone give me a copy of his /etc/network/interfaces file ( wireless network working please)
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[09:20] <Steff_breezy> ne-pornografic and free, sounds good, huh? Have fun
[09:20] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, then just install xterm and you'll keep your cygwin directory under a few hundred MB probably
[09:20] <root_> hey, xgl effed up my xchat, i can only start it as root for some reason
[09:20] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 which radeon you daid you have?
[09:21] <julien_c> `alsactl names` says No soundcards found :(
[09:21] <troy_s> grasshopper:  512 is fine.
[09:21] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, besides... i couldn't live without bash/grep/perl/sed/awk etc etc
[09:21] <doubleoseven> troy_s, ? dont really understand what you man :S
[09:21] <grasshopper> I used to use Xine but i'm getting no 'MRL' can someone tell me how to correc this?
[09:21] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: yeah, 'll have to set that up
[09:21] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, i use that stuff all the time for batch processing files in my bigger projects
[09:21] <Chri[s] > wow i just fix a werid problem open office wasnt completely opening then i reinstalled some graphic drivers and *Bam* office started to work again
[09:21] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, for programming at least
[09:21] <majd> troy_s, i shouldn't have tightvnc and ssh on the same computer?
[09:21] <troy_s> doubleoseven:  some files don't contain the actual data.  an mpg has full data in the file.  some are more like links to external things...
[09:21] <crimsun> julien_c: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && lsmod'', and tell me the url
[09:21] <troy_s> majd:  you can use ssh to do everything vnc can do and more.
[09:22] <grasshopper> I've tried Totem-xine ; Mplayer; Gxine; and Xine movei player but none of them play satisfactorily my DVD
[09:22] <Weirdbro> Firefox won't make any noise with Flash or Java
[09:22] <] GoldenDragon> what about non-ipod mp3 players?
[09:22] <troy_s> majd:  especially if you run a native xwindows to xwindows box -- it is totally transparent secure networking.
[09:22] <r0xoR> grasshopper, use kaffeine :)
[09:22] <] GoldenDragon> does gtkpod still work for that?
[09:22] <troy_s> grasshopper:  choppy playback?
[09:22] <Touru> grasshopper: VLC is pretty good.
[09:22] <r0xoR> grasshopper, kaffeine has always worked well for me... it's a xine frontent but it works
[09:22] <Sjoerd-> r0xoR: any hint on what I should do?
[09:22] <r0xoR> grasshopper, oh yeah... and VLC is the shit too :)
[09:22] <troy_s> grasshopper:  you will also need to deal with dma -- direct memory addressing.
[09:22] <majd> troy_s, i want to access my desktop, not on command line, in GUI, can ssh do that? The link that phpmattk_ showed me is a tutorial on how to run vnc through SSH
[09:22] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, yes... read the manual :)
[09:22] <MaKkY> Anyone know how to install WinRAR?
[09:22] <troy_s> !dma
[09:22] <BlueEagle> The installer crashes with the error message as found on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/756183
[09:22] <r0xoR> !tell Sjoerd- about google
[09:23] <doubleoseven> troy_s, i know but those are .mpeg files its just that my nautilus in user mode doenst seem to see a .mpeg as the same as a .mpg file
[09:23] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: k, almost done
[09:23] <troy_s> ubotu, tell grasshopper about dma
[09:23] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 aha i see ati Rage mobility my opinion after 2 days of suffering it should do fine on clean install with open source ati drivers
[09:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo: Radeon Mobility 7500
[09:23] <MaKkY> Anyone know how to install WinRAR?
[09:23] <gsven> P0ldy, okay i found it. If i type "Sound & Video" instead of "Unterhaltungsmedien" it doesnt work. Its like he replaces it wiith the translation. Its not a bug its a feature.
[09:23] <] GoldenDragon> why would you need WinRAR?
[09:23] <Touru> grasshopper: And xine always says to has "no MRL" when you open it, but don't open a specific file.
[09:23] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, are you planning to stick with windows as your dev box?
[09:23] <Frogzoo> MaKkY: sudo apt-get install rar
[09:23] <BlueEagle> never mind that
[09:23] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, cuz if so then you *could* just go download gvim for windows :) which is what i used to use for a long time
[09:24] <Sjoerd-> r0xoR: Ok.. I am looking at the krazypenguin guide but almost everything is about using Ubuntu with a GUI. Will try Google though, thanks.
[09:24] <grasshopper> Guys, thx. Yes, i'm getting either choppy, or a combination of different problems with each player. Only ones i haven't tried are VLC and Kaffeine
[09:24] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 that fglrx shit did not work for me i even think there is something missing somewhere
[09:24] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, how do you sync with my mp3player if its not Ipod?
[09:24] <MaKkY> Frogzoo: THANK YOU!
[09:24] <luli> I have a broadcom wireless card. When I upgraded to dapper the wireless went. Can someone please help? I'm losing my mind.
[09:24] <r0xoR> sjoerd, you need to edit /etc/network/config or something like that i think... there's a file for your interfaces that you can setup
[09:24] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: no i do most all my dev work on linux.. this is kinda the family computer.. dont want the wife to have to use linux
[09:25] <robinl1_> Does the speed of the harddisk influence the speed of the pc?
[09:25] <r0xoR> Sjoerd-, but i forgot what it is
[09:25] <doubleoseven> troy_s, i know but those are .mpeg files its just that my nautilus in user mode doenst seem to see a .mpeg as the same as a .mpg file
[09:25] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, hahah, my girlfriend uses ubuntu man... she loves it
[09:25] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: although it'd be cool as hell if she did.. hehe
[09:25] <ransu> question: how to change screen resolution for terminal access in bootloader or somewhere? - I've installed basic ubuntu-dd-server and have have a 78x25 line TTY - would be convenient to have more characters on screen when using aptitude...
[09:25] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, she says she likes it better than Mac OS X :)
[09:25] <Sjoerd-> r0xoR: thanks again, ill check google :)
[09:25] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, and i'm not even joking
[09:25] <julien_c> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/756188
[09:25] <luli> Here is the problem: my router is set to issue IP addresses as a DHCP server. With the network admin tools I can see that the router is broadcasting and it sees the ESSID.However when I try to connect it never receives an IP address.
[09:25] <phpmattk_> r0xoR:  one of these days i'll pop in a livecd and see what happens.. heheh
[09:26] <ollo82> hello
[09:26] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, as far as i'm concerned, if you don't need to do multi-track audio recording or video editing... linux is fine for basically any desktop application you can *think* of
[09:26] <luli> In the dmesg logs it says this: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[09:26] <ollo82> i search a dydns client for ubuntu thats works behind a router
[09:26] <penguinwhoflew> umm
[09:26] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, and even then, ardour is making multi-track recording a very real possibility :)
[09:26] <possie_> isn't it possible to start installation of Ubuntu 6.06 without booting up the live cd first? cause this eats too much memory on my system (180mb) to start the installer
[09:27] <cowbud> hrmm it seems if the time on my laptop is screwd up nautilus/gnome won't start
[09:27] <cowbud> at all
[09:27] <] GoldenDragon> =[
[09:27] <penguinwhoflew> ok i installed xgl and got it working, but now xchat only runs as root. i've disabled xgl already and undid all the steps, but still, i can only 'sudo xchat-gnome'
[09:27] <luli> fucking dapper, I should have never upgraded.
[09:27] <r0xoR> luli, heheh, what's wrong?
[09:27] <possie_> luli, why not?
[09:27] <MiLoX> bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed. <.. anybody knows why happen that?
[09:27] <belkin> luli ? dapper rocks
[09:27] <r0xoR> luli, did you *upgrade* or did you fresh install?
[09:27] <grasshopper> Warning: Enabling DMA can be dangerous in some cases. Usually issues are directly related to faulty hardware, poorly written drivers, or using settings that are unsupported by your system. USING HDPARM INCORRECTLY CAN CAUSE MAJOR DATA CORRUPTION AND/OR LOSS. Most systems newer than 4 years support DMA.
[09:28] <luli> r0xoR, wireless is no longer working. I have a broadcome card.
[09:28] <r0xoR> luli, i'm probably going to wait a month and then just fresh install my system
[09:28] <possie_> is there away to start a non-gui dapper installation?
[09:28] <luli> possie_, belkin  ^^
[09:28] <lismervis> hi
[09:28] <r0xoR> luli, oh... heheh, you're pissed cuz your laptop doesn't work? jeez
[09:28] <belkin> luli fresh install would be the best way to get dapper working properly
[09:28] <r0xoR> luli, i say again... did you *upgrade* or did you fresh install?
[09:28] <grasshopper> is DMA evil?
[09:28] <luli> r0xoR, upgrade.
[09:28] <Sub> !dma
[09:28] <navarone> luli...I read that if restricted modules are removed it can disable wireless...have you removed them by chance?
[09:28] <ompaul> grasshopper, if your system can handle it, it should be enabled by default, and likewise if it can't etc
[09:28] <r0xoR> luli, well there you go
[09:28] <lismervis> hi
[09:29] <r0xoR> luli, try a fresh install and *then* complain to us
[09:29] <grasshopper> ompaul: how can i tell if it is already enabled?
[09:29] <Frogzoo> grasshopper: there is no life without DMA
[09:29] <r0xoR> luli, because right now you've just got a PEBKAC error, that's all
[09:29] <crimsun> julien_c: sec, busy
[09:29] <IGD> anyone ever install network manager that can give me a hand?
[09:29] <julien_c> crimsun: ok
[09:29] <belkin> hell yeah i told him :)
[09:29] <MaKkY> How do i run LimeWire I converted the .rpm file & instaleld the package; but hwen i go to open it, it doesn't do ANYTHING!
[09:29] <troy_s> grasshopper:  dma was disabled by default generally...
[09:29] <Frogzoo> grasshopper: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[09:29] <Jemt> Greetz. How can I add a large amount of files to a compressed package? About 3 GB, 26000 files. The program Archive failes - the produced file is corrupted.
[09:29] <lismervis> who speaking spanish?????
[09:29] <r0xoR> IGD, define "network manager" please
[09:29] <MaKkY> How do i run LimeWire I converted the .rpm file & instaleld the package; but hwen i go to open it, it doesn't do ANYTHING!
[09:29] <grasshopper> Frogzoo:  '<
[09:29] <troy_s> grasshopper:  not evil, but the safe way to run which is why ubuntu chose it out of box.
[09:30] <luli> navarone, I was using ndiswrapper before dapper. Then the broadcom drivers, turns out, were cracked and now I guess dapper decided I should use the cracked drivers instead of ndiswrappers. I followed some guides to getthe cracked driver working  and such but no luck
[09:30] <lismervis> who speak spanich?
[09:30] <lismervis> spanish
[09:30] <r0xoR> MaKkY, you uhhh, you did install java right?
[09:30] <r0xoR> !es
[09:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:30] <MaKkY> java... im pretty sure how do i make sure?
[09:30] <MaKkY> synaptic?
[09:30] <IGD> roxor: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[09:30] <r0xoR> MaKkY, hahaha, you definitely didn't install java lol
[09:30] <r0xoR> !tell MaKkY about java
[09:30] <ompaul> grasshopper, man hdparm states that -b /dev/disk will tell ya
[09:30] <luli> r0xoR, " ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready" that's the PEBKAC error?
[09:31] <crimsun> julien_c: ``sudo modprobe snd-au8830 pcifix=1''
[09:31] <luli> r0xoR, not serious or what?
[09:31] <MaKkY> f0x0r: do i install it from synaptic
[09:31] <MaKkY> r0x0r: from synaptic?
[09:31] <worm_> can i get xgl to rotate workspaces when i move to the edge?
[09:31] <doubleoseven> is there a way to tell nautilus to see every .mpeg file as the same as a .mpg file?
[09:31] <r0xoR> luli, i'll say again... go do a fresh install and then come back... oh and when you come back... don't complain... it doesn't really help your chances of being helped
[09:31] <Frogzoo> ompaul: -d
[09:31] <troy_s> doubleoseven:  yes... properties
[09:32] <ompaul> worm_,  #ubuntu-xgl
[09:32] <ompaul> Frogzoo, it was to examine
[09:32] <r0xoR> luli, it's PEBKAC error for a simple reason: you don't know the details of dapper and what the upgrade does to your computer so you don't know how to get your wireless working right
[09:32] <troy_s> doubleoseven:  right click on the mpeg, click properties, open-with tab
[09:32] <Jinkguns> IGD
[09:32] <luli> r0xoR, good advice. other than this part: "go do a fresh install"
[09:32] <Jinkguns> I tried it, its good.
[09:32] <MaKkY> rOxoR: do i install java from synaptic?
[09:32] <Frogzoo> ompaul: -b = bus state -d = dma
[09:32] <navarone> r0xoR: I imaginea  fresh install won't help my nvidia driver issues would it?
[09:32] <r0xoR> MaKkY, dood... ubotu sent you a message... go read it
[09:32] <doubleoseven> troy_s, where in the properties?
[09:32] <julien_c> crimsun: it outputs some errors: http://pastebin.com/756195
[09:32] <r0xoR> navarone, it might... what *are* your nvidia driver issues?
[09:32] <ompaul> Frogzoo, d'oh - I should go to bed :)
[09:33] <MaKkY> eOxoR: sorry didn't see it
[09:33] <Frogzoo> ;)
[09:33] <r0xoR> luli, no actually "go do a fresh install" is very good advice...
[09:33] <ompaul> grasshopper, man hdparm states that -d /dev/disk will tell ya (sorry)
[09:33] <r0xoR> MaKkY, and my name doesn't start with e... it starts with r
[09:33] <Mewshi> anyone here using any SIP software?
[09:33] <lampshade> How do I access that fancy new network manager for my wireless?
[09:33] <Jemt> How can I backup about 26.000 files (3 GB)? I want to preserve the current file permissions among other things. I would prefer a compression-tools (ZIP, RAR, what-ever)
[09:33] <grndslm> Does anybody here know why the mythbackend init.d script gives me a session management error: authentication rejected, reason: none of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed???
[09:33] <feryana> hi there
[09:33] <crimsun> julien_c: err, that kernel is for breezy. Have you tried dapper?
[09:34] <luli> r0xoR, for God's sake...what century do you live in? If I wanted to do "fresh installs" everytime a new version of distro came out I would have stuck with Fedora.
[09:34] <doubleoseven> troy_s, i dont really see it
[09:34] <r0xoR> hahah
[09:34] <siofwolves> r0xoR, I've installed network manager using Add/Remove which downloaded and installed ok but its not available in any of the menu's ?
[09:34] <worm_> luli, that sounds like a kernel issue
[09:34] <worm_> did you upgrade the kernel?
[09:34] <r0xoR> luli, are you using a desktop or a server?
[09:34] <julien_c> crimsun: well, I just made an upgrade with the update manager... you mean I should make a fresh install ?
[09:34] <feryana> I'm locking for the CD-backer program... but I don't find it in synaptics... where can I get it????
[09:34] <luli> worm_, yeah it upgraded when I did dist-upgrade
[09:34] <phpmattk_> hey man.. dont talk bad about fedora.. heheh
[09:34] <r0xoR> luli, if you're not using a server then what does it matter?
[09:34] <crimsun> julien_c: no, have you rebooted yet?
[09:34] <julien_c> crimsun: yes
[09:34] <luli> r0xoR, desktop, otherwise I would have had debian :)
[09:34] <navarone> r0xoR: I did the "update-manager -d" route and had to change "nvidia" to "vesa" in xorg.conf to get xserver going. I have tried a few how to's and no luck with getting accell working. I read I may ahve to wait till certain files are updated for new kernel. No big deal really...i can use box well...but I would rather have closer to 100% usuability for my hardware
[09:35] <cowbud> how do I reconfigure so that the bios isn't seen as UTC?
[09:35] <crimsun> julien_c: and you're still running 2.6.12? That's odd. ``ls /boot/vmlinuz*''
[09:35] <r0xoR> navarone, well that's probably because you now need to re-install your nvidia modules for the new kernel
[09:35] <luli> r0xoR, I'm not too fond of installing everything all over from scratch. Configuring it and on and on...
[09:35] <r0xoR> luli, are you fond of having your computer work right?
[09:35] <julien_c> crimsun: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686
[09:35] <r0xoR> luli, i'm not fond of that either... but I have no choice (usually) on my system because of the amount of proprietary hardware i've got
[09:36] <worm_> r0xoR, personally i prefer getting to the root of the problem, not reinstalling :P
[09:36] <crimsun> julien_c: lsb_release -r
[09:36] <navarone> r0xoR: I tried that with nvidias installer from website. It eventually complained about not being able to create module. I think maybe a gcc version issue ?
[09:36] <julien_c> crimsun: Release:        6.06
[09:36] <r0xoR> worm_, heheh, i prefer getting to the root of the problem if I care about understanding the problem
[09:36] <r0xoR> worm_, otherwise i re-install :)
[09:36] <crimsun> julien_c: what cpu are you using?
[09:36] <luli> worm_, dmesg also gives me this "error" (although I can't figure out when this happens and why): SoftMAC: Open Authentication with <map addr> failed, error code: 13    and the strange part is that the Mac address in this log is that of the router, so it must be seeing the router.
[09:36] <jameyg> Does anyone know where I can find the debootstrap script for dapper?
[09:36] <worm_> luli, is it only the nic which is broken?
[09:37] <worm_> luli, what is the chipset?
[09:37] <r0xoR> navarone, uhhh, i think that's a kernel-compiling-newbie issue :)
[09:37] <luli> worm_, yeah I guess so. That's the positive side of things.
[09:37] <jsestri2> how do you disable a module in the config file for the kernel-source?
[09:37] <grasshopper> hwats the difference betweeen Kaffeine, kafeeine-xine and kaffeine mozilla???
[09:37] <julien_c> crimsun: an Intel PIII
[09:37] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: got that stuff copied.. error detcted while processeing /home/user/.vimrc line 48.. line 49. unknown option guitablel
[09:37] <luli> worm_, broadcom
[09:37] <crimsun> julien_c: ``sudo apt-get install linux-686''
[09:37] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: should i just comment those lines out
[09:37] <] GoldenDragon> how do I sync with a Rio Mp3 player?
[09:37] <grasshopper> is there a decaffeinated version of Kaffeine?
[09:37] <worm_> luli, from lspci (exact)
[09:37] <luli> worm_, oh sorry. one sec.
[09:37] <] GoldenDragon> amaroK can't find the player..
[09:37] <MaKkY> rOxoR, im sorry for typing your name wrong, but is it possible to run Maya on Linux?
[09:37] <belkin> http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide    the best ever ubuntu guide
[09:37] <r0xoR> luli, well maybe next time if you don't say "f8ck the system you guys all use cuz i'm pissed" right off the bat then maybe I'll give you some better advice
[09:37] <worm_> luli, and uname -a
[09:37] <svigi_wlan> i succeded in installing dapper drake server into my old pentium 1 pc
[09:37] <BioVorE> MaKkY: I believe there is a port of maya to linux
[09:38] <navarone> r0xoR: I haven't attempted to recompile kernel...nor do i want to attempt it.
[09:38] <r0xoR> luli, peace :)
[09:38] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: it let me continue anyways though
[09:38] <svigi_wlan> with the desktop kernel works perfectly!
[09:38] <libdmb> hey, anyone know what this means:
[09:38] <libdmb> i915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5.x but got version 1.4.1
[09:38] <luli> worm_, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
[09:38] <r0xoR> phpError, ohhh yeah you can comment that out
[09:38] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, that's for vim 7.0
[09:38] <penguinwhoflew> umm, i have a wee problem
[09:38] <BioVorE> MaKkY: but most linux/unix users use blender 3d for 3d graphics stuff
[09:38] <worm_> luli, oh fun, wifi :(
[09:38] <Wan_Stiller> hello, is it possible - starting from a *.so file - to obtain an image? i should edit the usplash image
[09:38] <svigi_wlan> libdmb: wrong module version?!
[09:38] <luli> r0xoR, and peace be with you too :D
[09:38] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, vim 6.4 doesn't have tabs so... just comment it for now
[09:38] <penguinwhoflew> all my audio drivers dissapeared, except for the xine one
[09:38] <julien_c> crimsun: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)  E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:38] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: ahh ok..
[09:38] <grasshopper> hwats the difference betweeen Kaffeine, kafeeine-xine and kaffeine mozilla???
[09:38] <MaKkY> alright
[09:38] <svigi_wlan> anyone can help me with hostapd?
[09:38] <luli> worm_, oh yeah! that's the key part :D
[09:38] <crimsun> julien_c: are you using update-manager?
[09:38] <julien_c> crimsun: duh, sorry lol Synaptic was running
[09:38] <phpmattk_> cd ..
[09:39] <belkin> libdmb looks like something wants version 1-1.5.x
[09:39] <grasshopper> which version of Kaffeine is best for Ubuntu/Dapper?
[09:39] <_jpierre> Is there a program that can organise photos on Ubuntu?
[09:39] <MaKkY> rOxoR, i installed java, yet still nothing happens when I try to open it
[09:39] <libdmb> belkin: well, it shoudln't want that
[09:39] <julien_c> crimsun: yes I use it when there are updates available
[09:39] <libdmb> because it isn't supported in dapper
[09:39] <worm_> luli, what was the previous and current kernel version?
[09:39] <grasshopper> whats is the difference between xine with kaffeine and xine with Totem?
[09:39] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: looks like " is comment?
[09:39] <julien_c> crimsun: I also used it to upgrade to 6.06
[09:39] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, correct
[09:39] <crimsun> julien_c: please install linux-686
[09:39] <belkin> libdmb well then you shouldnt use other repos then the official ones
[09:39] <feryana> I'm locking for the CD-backer program... but I don't find it in synaptics... where can I get it????
[09:40] <libdmb> belkin: im only using the xgl one
[09:40] <jsestri2> i can't figure how to make config-$(uname -r) effect my kernel source compilation, can anyone tell me how to turn off compiling certain modules?
[09:40] <grasshopper> huh?
[09:40] <grasshopper> hello?
[09:40] <grasshopper> Guys!
[09:40] <grndslm> Does anybody here know why the mythbackend init.d script gives me a session management error: authentication rejected, reason: none of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed???
[09:40] <phpmattk_> r0xoR: exuberant ctags not found in path...
[09:40] <ompaul> !patience
[09:40] <skippy81> can anyone me how i can turn off the autodetection of hardware at boot time please, i want to be able to specify which kernel modules get loaded and whihc dont
[09:40] <timi> i need help with apt get
[09:40] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:40] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, ignore it or sudo apt-get install ctags
[09:40] <belkin> libdmb strange
[09:40] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, it's non-fatal
[09:40] <MaKkY> rOxoR, i installed java; yet LimeWire STILL does not open.....
[09:40] <julien_c> crimsun: will it automatically change the grub OS list ?
[09:40] <crimsun> skippy81: that's something that udev and Linux do
[09:40] <_jpierre> Is there a program that can organise photos on Ubuntu?
[09:40] <crimsun> julien_c: yes.
[09:40] <kdean06> Using Dapper, I'm getting an error trying to import my music collection into Rhythmbox, saying unrecognized MIME type for .ogg. How do I correct this?
[09:40] <phpmattk_> k, i ignored
[09:40] <r0xoR> MaKkY, are you sure that java works?
[09:40] <julien_c> crimsun: cool
[09:40] <svigi_wlan> jsestri2: make menuconfig and select
[09:41] <skippy81> is autodetection a kernel option then crimsun?
[09:41] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, ok now open yourself up a copy of a PHP file just to play with for a minute and i'll show you some leet stuff
[09:41] <luli> worm_, curr ver: 2.6.15-23-386  prev ver: 2.6.12-10-386
[09:41] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, and join #vim too :)
[09:41] <MaKkY> how would i make sure, rOxoR, by playing a java-based game online?
[09:41] <timi> when i try to apt-get anythingit says command not found
[09:41] <jsestri2> svigi_wlan: thanks
[09:41] <grasshopper> common
[09:41] <Weirdbro> Flash won't produce sound
[09:41] <r0xoR> phpmattk_, go beep me in #vim, just say my name...
[09:41] <svigi_wlan> and then make modules; make modules_install
[09:41] <Weirdbro> Can anyone hel?
[09:41] <Wan_Stiller> hello, is it possible - starting from a *.so file - to obtain an image? i should edit the usplash image
[09:41] <worm_> luli, did you have to do anything to get the wlan working with 2.6.12 ?
[09:41] <_jpierre> timi: You should say install or remove affter apt-get
[09:41] <] GoldenDragon> anyone know how I can sync with a Rio Cali Mp3 Player?
[09:42] <kdean06> timi, apt-get install <packagename>, apt-get update. You need a command.
[09:42] <timi> install or remove
[09:42] <lampshade> Network manager?  Anyone use it?  How did you get it?????
[09:42] <troy_s> weirdbro:  use the nonfree version of flash.
[09:42] <luli> worm_, I can't get over the fact that I can see the routers that broadcast the ESSIDs. That does suggest that the driver is "sort of" working.
[09:42] <tichadok> Hi, where do I modify the PATH environment varible to add and keep a new folder permanent ?
[09:42] <timi> oook
[09:42] <Weirdbro> I am using the nonfree version
[09:42] <Weirdbro> that didn't work
[09:42] <worm_> luli, does the interface exist?
[09:42] <kdean06> timi, apt-get --help will list possible options.
[09:42] <worm_> i guess it must
[09:42] <Weirdbro> I tried the download directly from the adobe siter
[09:42] <worm_> are you tcpdump'ing ?
[09:42] <luli> worm_, I was using ndiswrapper. Now they cracked the broadcom driver and I'm trying to use that. I did try to use ndiswrappers but didnt' work either.
[09:42] <Weirdbro> that didn't work either
[09:43] <grasshopper> with Xine Movie player i'm getting " The amount of frames dropped is too hight" could be it is not configued right etc etc
[09:43] <siofwolves> lampshade, i've been having the same problem
[09:43] <MaKkY> rOxoR, is there a site, from where i can get Linux-based applications? Like Maya?
[09:43] <belkin> !java
[09:43] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:43] <timi> now it says it can't find a package
[09:43] <luli> worm_, I'm not sure what you mean by "interface"
[09:43] <Weirdbro> !flash
[09:43] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:43] <julien_c> crimsun: ok linux-686 is installed, I'll restart the computer and come back here after
[09:43] <Sjoerd-> how do i edit files via command line, is there some editor?
[09:43] <GianLuigiBuffon> how can I register this nick?
[09:43] <worm_> luli, interface as in ... 'eth1'
[09:43] <Jemt> How do I create a backup of all files in /media/hda4/* using tar? I want the file to be stored in /media/hda4 too
[09:43] <MaKkY> Becasue I only the Windows ".exe" version of it, rOxoR
[09:43] <] GoldenDragon> o_O
[09:43] <Wan_Stiller>  hello, is it possible - starting from a *.so file - to obtain an image? i should edit the usplash image
[09:43] <amphi> Sjoerd-: many
[09:43] <libdmb> brb
[09:43] <Gio2k> i can't connect with amule 2.1.0
[09:43] <Gio2k> i can't connect with amule 2.1.0, keep getting 'connection lost', anyone knows what to do?
[09:43] <_jpierre> timi: What are you exactly trying to do
[09:43] <kdean06> MaKkY, Ubuntu uses repositories of applications. If you need ot add a program, try apt-get install <programname> with no brackets.
[09:43] <amphi> Sjoerd-: nano should be installed already
[09:43] <timi> im trying to get kde
[09:43] <_jpierre> ok
[09:43] <tichadok> Where do I modify the PATH variable ?
[09:43] <luli> worm_, yeah interface exists however, with ndiswrappers it used to be wlan0 and now it's eth1
[09:44] <Sjoerd-> amphi: Thanks, how do I run nano?
[09:44] <] GoldenDragon> i think to register it is... /ns register password email
[09:44] <timi> i do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <luli> worm_, is that a problem?
[09:44] <timi> and it doesnt work
[09:44] <net_benj1> Hello, I need help with JAVA working with FIREFOX....I've read ubuntu Wiki page for Restricted Formats and followed instructions to the letter...java still not working....I'd really appreciate help...thanks.
[09:44] <_jpierre> timi: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:44] <] GoldenDragon> or try /ns help register
[09:44] <timi> hoary
[09:44] <MaKkY> kdean06, you want me to do that to the .exe file?
[09:44] <amphi> Sjoerd-: er, by typing 'nano' and hitting [enter]  ;)
[09:44] <grasshopper> i don't know how this works. If oneis ignored does one just shout louder? or does it mean no one knows or?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> ] GoldenDragon: /msg nickserv register password
[09:44] <worm_> luli, how do you usually associate with an AP ?
[09:44] <DeMoNSeEd> MaKkY, get frostwire
[09:44] <Weirdbro> net_benj1, its hard, I did it today
[09:44] <Sjoerd-> amphi: thanks
[09:44] <kdean06> MaKkY, Linux does not use .exe files.
[09:44] <Weirdbro> first, use Automatix
[09:44] <ompaul> MaKkY, I had the bot send you soemthing
[09:44] <_jpierre> timi: Do you have kubuntu hoary?
[09:44] <] GoldenDragon> hmm? oh, on some servers /ns works the same.
[09:44] <doubleoseven> troy_s, hmm still have no clue :S
[09:44] <FiNaLAlFa> I saw a vid from suse 10.1 using a cube for desktop, could spin etc, does/can ubuntu use that?
[09:44] <timi> ubuntu hoary
[09:44] <amphi> Sjoerd-: nano is very basic, there are many better editors, for example vim
[09:44] <luli> worm_, I was using the network admin tools.
[09:44] <DeMoNSeEd> automatix?
[09:44] <grasshopper> can someone help me with getting DVD to work on Dipper
[09:45] <net_benj1> Weirdbro...you saying I have to use Automatix to get JAVA?
[09:45] <] GoldenDragon> anyone know how I can sync with a Rio Cali Mp3 Player?
[09:45] <siofwolves> lampshade, you can install network manager through Add/Remove, but, it wont be in any menu's (you'll need to be online while installing 6.06).
[09:45] <Weirdbro> No
[09:45] <tichadok> I don't want to do export $PATH everytime I restart, where do I keep a new folder for all time ?
[09:45] <_jpierre> timi: I recommend that you get kubuntu hoary and then run the following command
[09:45] <Weirdbro> but it helps to get java running completely
[09:45] <Wan_Stiller> hello, is it possible - starting from a *.so file - to obtain an image? i should edit the usplash image
[09:45] <gnomefreak> cant*
[09:45] <grasshopper> can someone please help me with getting DVD ro play in Dipper?
[09:45] <_jpierre> timi: sudo apd-cdrom add
[09:45] <Weirdbro> Because you will need 2 different JVMs for compatibility
[09:45] <grasshopper> Please? :'(
[09:45] <MaKkY> DeMonSeEd, Private messages
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell grasshopper -about restricted
[09:45] <timi> ok
[09:45] <_jpierre> timi: supo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <worm_> tichadok, you can put the export line in $HOME/.bashrc
[09:45] <grasshopper> Hallo?!
[09:45] <skippy81> ubotu tell grasshopper about restricted formats
[09:45] <tkjacobse1> !restricted
[09:45] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:45] <tichadok> wolki, thanks
[09:45] <] GoldenDragon> I think the prblm may be that I don't have the drivers for my player installed...
[09:45] <net_benj1> Weridbro...how come two of us have prob with java...other pple. don't seem to have this issue???
[09:45] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: instructions are on that website
[09:45] <DeMoNSeEd> go ahead MaKkY
[09:45] <tichadok> worm_, thanks
[09:45] <timi> so i need the kubuntu cd then
[09:45] <grasshopper> i've got my restriceted for5mats
[09:46] <DeMoNSeEd> grasshopper pm me too
[09:46] <_jpierre> timi: ooppps sory there was a typo     sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <grasshopper> i have formats
[09:46] <_jpierre> yep;
[09:46] <ompaul> Weirdbro, do you always advertise programs that overwrite default configuration files in what I personally consider to be a needless and wreckless way? it overwrites the sources.list and if it fails there is no obvious way for the user to survive, its not something I would have on my birthday wish list
[09:46] <worm_> luli, can you iwlist ?
[09:46] <timi> ok thanks
[09:46] <kdean06> MaKkY, In Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal it will pop open a text screen. type there, without quotes, "apt-get install program" where Program is what you want. Like apt-get install firefox, or apt-get install gaim
[09:46] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: you need libdvdread and libdvdcss
[09:46] <_jpierre> timi: That's the most efficient and fastest way to do it
[09:46] <timi> is there anyway i can update hoary w/o a cd
[09:46] <ompaul> Weirdbro, and that is only one of the things it does
[09:46] <DeMoNSeEd> grasshopper, go here, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[09:46] <MaKkY> oh ok
[09:46] <rackerz> hey guys, is it safe to upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS> using the internal upgrader?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: than put a dvd in and type the region command on that site
[09:46] <tzar> is kubuntu as stable as ubuntu?
[09:47] <Weirdbro> I know, ompaul
[09:47] <kdean06> MaKkY, Sorry. I always forget. use "sudo apt-get install program"
[09:47] <skippy81> tzar yes
[09:47] <Hannibal> so
[09:47] <Weirdbro> Automatix is so much better than easyubuntu
[09:47] <_jpierre> You must have the kubuntu sources for hoary included in the sources.list file but don't know how to do it
[09:47] <tichadok> worm_, How can I do that for all users ?
[09:47] <Jonex> http://rafb.net/paste/results/uycaJf25.html <-- <-- <-- Any explanation why I would get a file not found error from that?
[09:47] <worm_> tichadok, /etc/bash.bashrc
[09:47] <tichadok> worm_, thank you
[09:47] <rackerz> !tell Weirdbro about automatix
[09:47] <_jpierre> timi: and kde is around 400 megs. So getting the kubuntu CD is worth it
[09:47] <ompaul> Weirdbro, documentation is the way forward, and its dangerous to users who do not know what they are doing
[09:47] <luli> worm_, not too sure what you mean. but I can run this "iwlist eth1 scanning" works.
[09:47] <timi> forgetting kubuntu, can i upgrade my ubuntu using apt-get
[09:47] <MaKkY> kdean06, yes i knew about sudo.... i understood
[09:48] <rackerz> hey guys, is it safe to upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS> using the internal upgrader?
[09:48] <grasshopper> gnomefreak: grasshopper@baraka:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[09:48] <grasshopper> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:48] <grasshopper> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:48] <pulver> hey! is there a good ez way to install non-free stuff in dapper without doing it manually? mp3, java, codecs, u name it....
[09:48] <_jpierre> timi: and kde is around 400 megs. So getting the kubuntu CD is worth it
[09:48] <MaKkY> kdean06, thanks for clearing it up though
[09:48] <GianLuigiBuffon> hey please how can I register this nick
[09:48] <Hannibal> I have Ubuntu installed, by accident I used the OEM install, but I've got that to go away and I now have my user account, I can happily sudo by now, I think I have my system clock sorted out, as well as my network and the lack of useful packages in a default install (say, gcc)
[09:48] <ubuntu123> hey all, quick question, trying to upgrade and getting an error that ubuntu-base is missing.  can't upgrade!
[09:48] <amphi> luli: what doesn't work? you can't configure the interface manually?
[09:48] <kdean06> MaKkY, Just making sure. I'm not used ot the sudo command, myself. :-)
[09:48] <rackerz> pulver: Yes, use easyubuntu
[09:48] <ompaul> Weirdbro, you are scarficing someone elses stability for a "quick hit"
[09:48] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: either you have apt or synptic or something running
[09:48] <luli> amphi, don't know how.
[09:48] <GianLuigiBuffon> grasshopper you can't have more packages managers opened at the same time
[09:48] <pulver> rackerz, thank you
[09:48] <kbrooks> I'M PISSED OFFAT ALL OF YOU.
[09:48] <rackerz> :)
[09:48] <timi> can i updat hoary using synpatic or apt get
[09:48] <Hannibal> however, I'm mising a large number of items in the System > Administration thing
[09:48] <MaKkY> kdean06, do i download blender 3d from their site?
[09:48] <GianLuigiBuffon> grasshopper if you have synaptics openend you won't be able running a .deb on konsole
[09:49] <julien_c> crimsun: it worked !! thank you very very much :)
[09:49] <GianLuigiBuffon> (or add or remove)
[09:49] <CHodapp> You ban him for saying one line?
[09:49] <Hannibal> and Add/Remove is also missing from the Applications menu in Gnome
[09:49] <desrt> wtf.
[09:49] <ompaul> CHodapp, he knows he will let back in 10
[09:49] <gnomefreak> CHodapp: hes not banned and ompaul had his reasons for it
[09:49] <desrt> i want #ubuntu+1
[09:49] <GianLuigiBuffon> take it from synaptics
[09:49] <Hannibal> so I'm wondering if I should add my user account to the admin group or something similar?
[09:49] <Weirdbro> ompaul, what do you mean?
[09:49] <WildTangent> this bashing of automatix has stop
[09:49] <kdean06> MaKkY, for that one specifically, "sudo apt-get install blender"
[09:49] <rackerz> Is it safe to upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS> using the internal upgrader?
[09:49] <GianLuigiBuffon> how please how can I register my nickname???
[09:49] <halorgium> luli: lol, i kinda killed my box
[09:49] <desrt> freenode is SO broken
[09:49] <amphi> luli: iwconfig <iface> essid <essid> [mode <mode>]  [channel <channel> and then once you're associated, either configure the interface with ifconfig or use dhclient if the router has a dhcp server running
[09:50] <_jpierre> timi: You need to get the kubuntu source
[09:50] <gnomefreak> DeMoNSeEd: freenodes not broken
[09:50] <] GoldenDragon> can someone help me make ubuntu recognize my mp3 player?
[09:50] <timi> im not taking about kubuntu anymore
[09:50] <amphi> luli: mode should be 'managed' probably
[09:50] <Weirdbro> ompaul: Is Automatix unstable or something?
[09:50] <MaKkY> thanks kdean06
[09:50] <ubuntu123> trying to upgrade to 6.06 and getting an error that ubuntu-base is missing.  anyone help me? this is a clean install
[09:50] <timi> i have ubuntu hoary how can i upgrade to the new version
[09:50] <ompaul> Weirdbro, a machine is working, you overwrite the sources.list, you then start to download, if it fails the "wrong sources.list is in place" it could have gotten files by wget and worked from there
[09:50] <luli> amphi, k. let me try.
[09:50] <timi> i dont have cd-rw drive either
[09:50] <MaKkY> kdean06, ive never used blender 3d before, know a site for tutorials?
[09:50] <kdean06> ubuntu123, try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[09:50] <amphi> luli: channel/freq info you'll get from iwlist <iface> scan
[09:50] <ubuntu123> kdean: thanks
[09:50] <DeMoNSeEd> do / msg nickserv REGISTER <oassword>
[09:50] <rackerz> Automatix doesn't even restore the correct sources.list if you ask it too.
[09:50] <ompaul> Weirdbro, this will break a machine if the user does not understand what has gone wrong
[09:51] <WildTangent> Weirdbro, automatix is not unstable
[09:51] <gnomefreak> timi: you need to upgrade to breezy first than to dapper
[09:51] <kdean06> MaKkY, I haven't ever used it. I only know it's in the repos because I did a serch for you, just now. :-)
[09:51] <timi> k how do update to breezy
[09:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> how please how can I register my nickname???
[09:51] <MaKkY> thanks,kdean06
[09:51] <julien_c> crimsun: I'm very happy now I can enjoy sound on my system, thanks again, I'll try spreading the solution
[09:51] <kdean06> MaKkY, I'm sure there's a wealth of info on Google. Just look for Blender 3D howto
[09:51] <Hannibal> GianLuigiBuffon: /msg nickserv help register
[09:51] <skippy81> interestingly the bot message warning about automatix has been removed
[09:51] <DeMoNSeEd> gnomefreak, who said freenode was broken?
[09:51] <amphi> luli: I'd try just setting the essid first, that might be enough to associtae
[09:51] <rackerz> gnomefreak: do you know if it's ok to upgrade firefox using the interal upgrader?
[09:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> ty
[09:51] <gnomefreak> skippy81: yes it has :(
[09:51] <CHodapp> MaKkY, there are tons of tutorials on the mainpage, I think
[09:51] <Weirdbro> Ok, so should I recommned that people back up sources.list first before I recommend Automatix?
[09:51] <CHodapp> blender3d.org I think it is
[09:52] <WildTangent> automatix backs up your sources Weirdbro
[09:52] <Hannibal> Weirdbro: do you reckon they'd be smart enough to restore it themselves?
[09:52] <timi> can i update my ubuntu hoary to ubuntu breezy with synaptic or apt-get
[09:52] <DeMoNSeEd> MaKkY, what are you looking to do?
[09:52] <nutterpc> how do i interpret this code, trying to work out if I need this startup service or not
[09:52] <halorgium> luli: is that broadcom chipset the one in the powerbooks? <-- worm_ died :(
[09:52] <nutterpc> if pidof usplash > /dev/null; then
[09:52] <nutterpc>     exit 0
[09:52] <Pipehead> hola
[09:52] <gnomefreak> rackerz: ff1.5.04 is not in dapper repos yet afaik you would need to use the ff1.5 site
[09:52] <Pipehead> alguien aqu??
[09:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rackerz -about ff1.5
[09:52] <ompaul> Weirdbro, debian and ubuntu attract me because of their stability, that program is not what I would use, nor for that matter would I suggest easyubuntu, I suggest documentation
[09:52] <amphi> !es
[09:52] <kdean06> timit, It's possible, thought it is slightly less effective. And Dapper is the current stable.
[09:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:52] <Weirdbro> WildTangent: I know, but ompaul is telling me that I was risking someones computer's stability by just recommending Automatix
[09:53] <ubuntu123> kdean06: ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version
[09:53] <WildTangent> Ok, the Automatix team, AND the Easy Ubuntu team are getting very sick of all this FUD about Automatix. It is hurting both of us. The "facts" youre going on are old, and outdated
[09:53] <luli> halorgium, no, dell inspiron xps
[09:53] <timi> so its possible
[09:53] <WildTangent> Weirdbro, thats BS
[09:53] <kdean06> ubuntu123, And... GNOME isn't loading for you?
[09:53] <ubuntu123> kdean06: is there a way to just get ubuntu-base?
[09:53] <Weirdbro> ompaul, it is extremely hard to set up java correcly
[09:53] <timi> do i use synaptic or atp-get
[09:53] <Hannibal> gnomefreak: I'd personally recommend people either sticking with Ubuntu's Fx install
[09:53] <grasshopper> DeMoNSeEd: can't pm you 'coz i'm not registered
[09:53] <gnomefreak> i suggest everyone take easyubuntu and automatix talk to the channels made for them
[09:53] <WildTangent> ompaul obviously doesnt know what hes talking about
[09:53] <ompaul> Weirdbro, it is a pain to do so however with dapper there is a repo :-)
[09:53] <ChakRa> Automatix <3
[09:53] <ubuntu123> kean06: i am in a new OS trying to upgrade and am getting missing ubuntu-base message
[09:53] <DeMoNSeEd> hmm
[09:53] <nutterpc> anyone here that could assist me on that little query? as soon as I get this optimization stuff done, I can post on the forums about it all :)
[09:53] <WildTangent> automatix is developed by nearly a dozen people, and tested thorouhgly
[09:53] <Weirdbro> No, java is really hard
[09:53] <Hannibal> gnomefreak: or just get an official build and keep it separate
[09:54] <luli> amphi, I ran this command(s): sudo iwconfig eth1 "GEZIM" mode "managed" ; sudo dhclient
[09:54] <Weirdbro> you need two jvms to get some apps to run
[09:54] <DeMoNSeEd> grasshopper go here #gotux
[09:54] <amphi> luli: and?
[09:54] <MaKkY> DeMoNSeEd, are you here or in the Private messages area?
[09:54] <Weirdbro> the sun-java5-plugin isn't repo'd
[09:54] <WildTangent> ompaul, kbrooks requests to be unsilenced
[09:54] <DeMoNSeEd> go to #gotux
[09:54] <Chousuke> WildTangent: Automatix at least used to use the --force a lot
[09:54] <luli> amphi, did some stuff and at the end said: No DHCPOFFERS received.
[09:54] <timi> ok so wht do i need to do to upgrade my hoary to breezy, i dont have cdrw
[09:54] <timi> can i use synaptic
[09:54] <Pipehead> hello
[09:54] <WildTangent> censorship is very unbecoming of the spirit of Ubuntu
[09:54] <kdean06> ubuntu123, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base. If it can't find it, perhaps you need a different sources.list. I just installed it now.
[09:54] <Pipehead> how are you??
[09:54] <Weirdbro> but then again, sun-java5-plugin isn't installed by automatix either
[09:54] <WildTangent> Chousuke, automatix does not use --force anymore
[09:54] <amphi> luli: I would not have done it like that - you want to see that you're associated before trying dhclient
[09:55] <nutterpc> lol automatix
[09:55] <luli> amphi, should that iwconfig command have a key as well?
[09:55] <nutterpc> I didn't even have to use that
[09:55] <WildTangent> we have a strict policy against using --force
[09:55] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[09:55] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[09:55] <ubuntu123> kdean06: yeah i tried that it didnt find, lemme try again, thanks
[09:55] <halorgium> luli: ah, it is
[09:55] <WildTangent> its simple, we do not use it
[09:55] <nutterpc> I just installed everything and it works
[09:55] <amphi> luli: dunno - are you using wep or wpa?
[09:55] <nutterpc> flash, java
[09:55] <nutterpc> etc etc
[09:55] <Chousuke> WildTangent: Oh, so it's fixed?
[09:55] <luli> amphi, wep
[09:55] <Chousuke> nice.
[09:55] <Pipehead> any girls?
[09:55] <timi> ok so how do i update my hoary to breezy
[09:55] <amphi> luli: man iwconfig then ;)
[09:55] <WildTangent> Chousuke, yes, it is fixed :D
[09:55] <timi> i dont have a cdrw drive
[09:55] <gnomefreak> Pipehead: this is a support channel only
[09:55] <skippy81> ubotu tell timi about upgrade
[09:55] <kdean06> ubuntu123, Try adding "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" to your sources list.
[09:56] <luli> amphi, so how do I make sure I'm "associated"
[09:56] <luli> ?
[09:56] <rackerz> gnomefreak: Thanks :D
[09:56] <sladen> nutterpc: what on earth are you trying to do to your machine?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> rackerz: yw
[09:56] <luli> halorgium, did you get yours working? (assuming you have a broadcom)?
[09:56] <ubuntu123> kean06: doing that now, thank you
[09:56] <nutterpc> sladen, you'll see when I'm done dude ;)
[09:56] <sladen> nutterpc: if you don't understand what the start-up scripts are doing, then deleting them is probably not a good idea
[09:56] <ompaul> !tell timi about upgrade
[09:56] <halorgium> luli: #bcm-users seems to be the place
[09:56] <ompaul> timi, read the message from the bot
[09:56] <ucordes> How can i remove the madwifi driver, included in linux-restricted-modules without removing the other packets such as ati driver
[09:56] <ucordes> ?
[09:56] <halorgium> although
[09:56] <nutterpc> sladen, I know what they do, I just need to find out what a piece of code means
[09:57] <sladen> nutterpc: try putting  'exit 0'  at the top of the scripts if you just want to have then exit immediately
[09:57] <halorgium> it was only included in 2.6.17-rc2
[09:57] <siofwolves> i've installed the Network Manager, please can you tell me how to run it ? Its not in any menu's ...
[09:57] <Weirdbro> Does anyone know why my Firefox fails to output sound from Flash or Java?
[09:57] <sladen> nutterpc: okay, what do you think that piece of code does?
[09:57] <halorgium> luli: i don't have a broadcom wifi chip which i've tried in linux
[09:57] <nutterpc> sladen, IMO........its saying to check for the process id of usplash, if it doesn't exist, then stop right there
[09:57] <luli> halorgium, ok.
[09:57] <nutterpc> for that script
[09:57] <halorgium> luli: i have my powerbook, but haven't put linux on it :)
[09:57] <sladen> siofwolves: right-click on the taskbar, "Add to panel"
[09:58] <luli> halorgium, decent idea :)
[09:58] <ucordes> anybody can help me with my question above?
[09:58] <penguinwhoflew> oh noes, shockwave works fine but i have no sound =/
[09:58] <rackerz> what's the new firefox directory? It's not /opt/firefox/ anymore :(
[09:58] <sladen> nutterpc: correct.  If usplash is running, then exit
[09:58] <trippeh> Interesting, debian_version in /etc on Dapper indicates testing/unstable ;-)
[09:58] <Weirdbro> penguinwhoflew, same for me
[09:58] <gnomefreak> rackerz: sure it is read the wiki
[09:58] <siofwolves> i'll try it, thx sladen
[09:58] <nutterpc> sladen, so what about if I'm *not* running usplash
[09:58] <kbrooks> thank you ompaul
[09:58] <kbrooks> o
[09:58] <sladen> nutterpc: well, it'll carry on
[09:58] <Hannibal> rackerz: which firefox
[09:58] <kbrooks> i'm part of the easyubuntu team
[09:58] <nutterpc> rightyo
[09:59] <Hannibal> (as in, "which firefox")
[09:59] <halorgium> luli: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=Devices are you one of those?
[09:59] <rackerz> chown: cannot access `/opt/firefox': No such file or directory
[09:59] <nutterpc> ty sladen, all I needed to know :)
[09:59] <WildTangent> yes, and i am part of the automatix team
[09:59] <rackerz> Hannibal: 1.5
[09:59] <skippy81> ucordes. use "lsmod" to list modules.  us "modprobe -r name" to remove them
[09:59] <WildTangent> and both of us are sick of the FUD
[09:59] <Hannibal> rackerz: no >.<
[09:59] <kbrooks> and i am SICK of the false information being spread about automatix
[09:59] <luli> amphi, when I do "iwconfig" it shows that EDDIS is set and that MODE is managed. Does this mean I'm "associated"?
[09:59] <stocki> hi
[09:59] <gnomefreak> rackerz: chown? thats not on the wiki last i checked
[09:59] <FlyingSquirrel32> the fglrx driver failed with my ATi Rage Mobility 128 AGP on my dell c600. Is there any way I can get 3D Graphics?
[09:59] <Hannibal> rackerz: run 'which firefox' in a shell
[09:59] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: take it to the channels made for it please
[09:59] <Hannibal> rackerz: that'll tell you where it is
[09:59] <nutterpc> sladen, I've been working on ram consumption at boot to desktop
[09:59] <rackerz> Hannibal: thanks :)
[09:59] <WildTangent> gnomefreak, enlighten me, whic would those be?
[09:59] <halorgium> luli: nah, it means that you can receive packets on the interface
[10:00] <Hannibal> rackerz: no problem
[10:00] <WildTangent> the FUD is happening here
[10:00] <gnomefreak> #automatix #easyubuntu
[10:00] <halorgium> luli: you should try: iwconfig eth1 essid THE_ESSID
[10:00] <ucordes> skippy81: thanks a lot. does this permanently remove the driver? and will the other packages in linux-restricted-modules will stay there?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> WildTangent: thats where the talk belongs
[10:00] <WildTangent> gnomefreak, the FUD is happening here
[10:00] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: we know about hese channels
[10:00] <luli> halorgium, what would that do?
[10:00] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: but the FUD is happening here
[10:00] <cowbud> In PPC Linux how do you use the second mouse button if you only have one? :)
[10:00] <nutterpc> sladen, and so far, results are promising
[10:00] <luli> halorgium, it would just set that essid right?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> this channel has nothing to do with opinions of apps
[10:00] <skippy81> ucordes, if it is not a module which is automatically hardware detected, then i believe "modprobe -r" should remove it
[10:00] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 which metod did u use?
[10:01] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: FUD isn't opinion
[10:01] <CHodapp> this channel has nothing to do with your opinion of what the channel's for
[10:01] <WildTangent> it is filled with FALSE opinions
[10:01] <sladen> nutterpc: did you see the  # comment in the line about the commands you were asking about
[10:01] <halorgium> luli: yer
[10:01] <WildTangent> these opinions are damaging both projects reputations
[10:01] <ucordes> ok
[10:01] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: automatix is better than easyubuntu is an opinion no?
[10:01] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[10:01] <nutterpc> not all of them, no, haven't gotten to that bit yet
[10:01] <skippy81> ucordes, the restricted modules are not loaded into your kernel just because you have the package installed, they just sit on your disk until you choose to modprobe them into the kernel
[10:01] <crimsun> CHodapp: / kbrooks: / gnomefreak: / WildTangent: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, please.
[10:01] <belkin> does anyone know where do i get dvdrecord package from ?
[10:01] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: it's not better.
[10:01] <ompaul> WildTangent, stop repeating talk to me in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to, and then see if you can convice me or even #automatix-meeting but lets leave it there
[10:01] <Hannibal> I'm not in any position to comment on this, but right now your debate is preventing users from getting help at all
[10:01] <gnomefreak> ive asked
[10:01] <sladen> nutterpc: console-screen.sh sets up various consoley thing;  in this case if usplash is running, it gets re-run later in the sequence when usplash isn't runnign as it trashes the display
[10:01] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 wait let me see that method...i'll be back
[10:01] <kbrooks> ok
[10:02] <gnomefreak> now please move it to the channels it belongs in
[10:02] <seb_> Can anyone give me a hand with pan?
[10:02] <CHodapp> move it to #meta-ubuntu-offtopic, gnomefreak
[10:02] <nutterpc> sladen, ahh ok
[10:02] <seb_> the newsreader
[10:02] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: don't op yourself up just to speak up.
[10:02] <breves> anyone think Kubuntu 6.06 dapper is worth switching to from breezy?
[10:02] <wiking> it seems i don't have system tray since i've upgraded from breezy to hoary (meaning most of the applications are not appearing in the system tray since then), anybody seen this error?
[10:02] <Hannibal> breves: I do :)
[10:02] <nutterpc> sladen, I'm gunning towards a total 128Mb RAM useage total, to desktop
[10:02] <AlexC_> Hey,
[10:03] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo: have you used System>Help>Ubuntu Starter Guide>Hardware>How do I install the 3D ATI video card driver?
[10:03] <PPower> breves: DEFINETLY! Its the best verion of ubuntu
[10:03] <_antix> wiking: upgraded from breezy to hoary?
[10:03] <Frogzoo> breves: I didn't think so before, but now I've upgraded, it's worth the move
[10:03] <AlexC_> How do I install XFCE ontop of Gnome?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: i asked you to move it to another channel i was being nice
[10:03] <wiking> baah
[10:03] <breves> ok ty
[10:03] <WildTangent> we have been discussing the FUD problem in #automatix-meeting, but this channel is where it happens
[10:03] <wiking> i always mix it up
[10:03] <wiking> breezy to dapper
[10:03] <WildTangent> we want to see an end to it
[10:03] <wiking> i've ment
[10:03] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 no that was the first method i used and it did not work for me neither...maybe you should read this
[10:03] <Hannibal> ubotu, tell AlexC_ about xubuntu
[10:03] <wiking> _antix: breezy to dapper i've ment :P
[10:03] <WildTangent> if theres a channel for the #ubuntu-* management we should be in, point it out
[10:03] <breves> this breezy is the smothest i eva had
[10:03] <luli> amphi, you alive or what? How do  I make sure I'm associated? What does that even mean?
[10:03] <breves> excited to swap for the new
[10:03] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 wait a sec...
[10:03] <Frogzoo> WildTangent: don't think these concerns will be solved here & now - I'd suggest u guys raise it with the ubuntu cc
[10:04] <AlexC_> Hannibal, Yes I know about xub' but I dont' want to re-download 600MB's worth just for XFCE
[10:04] <nutterpc> sladen, if I can get it, I'll post on the forums how I went about it, so if anyone else wants to try it, they can
[10:04] <skippy81> basically this channel should be for helping new users especially since dapper only just got released
[10:04] <mnk> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop but it doesn't seem to recognise my ethernet card. i have a Dell inspiron 8100
[10:04] <amphi> luli: I was afk
[10:04] <seb_> Anyone able to help me with pan newsreader?
[10:04] <dontm> !nvidia
[10:04] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:04] <dontm> !nforce
[10:04] <ubotu> dontm: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:04] <sorush20> hi guys I'm unable to get my network wlan0 back after dapper upgrade, I have a broadcom chip.. what can I do?
[10:04] <amphi> !tell luli about wifi
[10:04] <Jemt> Can anyone help me create a bacup of my files? There is a bug in the build in Archive tool
[10:04] <FlyingSquirrel32> Which was the first one you tried, the link or the help?
[10:04] <Hannibal> AlexC_: I saw someone else being given the advice to do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop - maybe you can do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[10:04] <Hannibal> AlexC_: I'm not an expert though, so don't pin me down on that advice :)
[10:05] <AlexC_> Hannibal, Yeh I was thinking of doing that
[10:05] <sladen> nutterpc: have you looked at xubuntu ?
[10:05] <skippy81> !tell me about XFCE
[10:05] <Hannibal> (in debian, I'm fairly sure apt-get install xfce would have done what you wanted - I don't know enough about ubuntu to say the same for it, though it is of course debian-based...)
[10:05] <Jemt> !backup
[10:05] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 Available packages for backing up are backuppc (web based), backup2l, backup-manager, backupninja, bkp, bacula, and sbackup amongst others
[10:05] <nutterpc> sladen, yeah I have, but I wanna have fun with gnome
[10:05] <nutterpc> :)
[10:05] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 well i tried about everything but do not know in which order and not always on clean install...
[10:05] <amphi> luli: AFAIUI, association is the establishment of the 'link layer', equivalent to connecting via an ethernet cable
[10:06] <nutterpc> sladen, my goal is to tighten ram usage, but keep full functionality......which ain't that hard
[10:06] <mnk> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop but it doesn't seem to recognise my ethernet card. i have a Dell inspiron 8100
[10:06] <Boglizk> What kind of themes am i suppose to install? Gnome-Look confuses me
[10:06] <zenlinux-NH> I'm running the 32-bit version of Dapper on an Athlon64 CPU. Which kernel package would be better: linux-686 or linux-k7?
[10:06] <mnk> any help would be appreciated :)
[10:06] <rackerz> when i run 'gksudo firefox' it still wont let me check for updates :(
[10:06] <Frogzoo> !tell Boglizk about themes
[10:06] <sladen> nutterpc: basically, linux-restricted-modules takes up about 20MB after the modules are launched.  The rest is GNOME.  Trimming those startup scripts is concentrating on molehills when there are obvious mountains
[10:06] <Ng> zenlinux-NH: k7
[10:06] <Boglizk> Thanks
[10:06] <zenlinux-NH> Thanks Ng!
[10:06] <sladen> s/launched/linked/
[10:06] <nutterpc> sladen, true
[10:06] <luli> amphi, ok here is the thing. I did iwconfig command, this has set ESSID to the correct on. Mode is not Managed. Access Point is the Mac addr of the router.
[10:07] <Hannibal> so, I'm wondering if someone could please tell me how I would be able to get more of the System > Administration menu to show up for my normal user at all?
[10:07] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 you would not believe but it matters on what drivers you install with wich method...ok i think the most promissing text is on this site:http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[10:07] <luli> amphi, doest that mean much?
[10:07] <Hannibal> having Add/Remove be in the Applications menu in Gnome would also help
[10:07] <twopeak> dapper drake rules, i saw a wmv video in my browser (my main negative about ubuntu)
[10:07] <whiter> my sudo isnt working
[10:07] <nutterpc> but also if there is stuff there which you are never going to need sladen, then why have it there..........that's my opinion
[10:07] <amphi> luli: what is the mode currently?
[10:07] <Hannibal> could anyone advice as to how to get stuff like that to work? :)
[10:07] <luli> amphi, managed
[10:07] <Frogzoo> !tell Hannibal about enter
[10:07] <amphi> luli: oh, you said 'not managed' above
[10:07] <twopeak> !num lock
[10:07] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, twopeak
[10:08] <nutterpc> sladen, you could say I'm trying to see how far I can push dapper before it breaks, or cracks the sads
[10:08] <amphi> luli: you set the key?
[10:08] <ompaul> Hannibal, system administration add applications
[10:08] <twopeak> !numlock
[10:08] <ubotu> methinks numlock is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[10:08] <luli> amphi, yeah.
[10:08] <mog_home> hey if i install something into /usr/local how do i add it so it can use libraries in /usr/local/lib
[10:08] <Jemt> !backup
[10:08] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 Available packages for backing up are backuppc (web based), backup2l, backup-manager, backupninja, bkp, bacula, and sbackup amongst others
[10:08] <sladen> nutterpc: wait until you get a new wifi card;  or need to print something...
[10:08] <rackerz> when i run 'gksudo firefox' it still wont let me check for updates :(
[10:08] <Frogzoo> Hannibal: use the Alacarte menu editor - under accessories
[10:08] <dontm> does it matter whether u use the dvd or cd to install dapper?
[10:08] <AngryElf> could somebody help  getting my optical audio-out working with ALSA?  fresh Dapper install, i enabled the IEC958 devices in the volume control, but still nothing...any ideas?
[10:08] <sladen> nutterpc: okay.
[10:08] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo: it says "The included fglrx driver supports Radeon 8500+ and the X-series cards up to X1900."
[10:08] <charle97> !fedora
[10:08] <ubotu> fedora is, like, totally, at http://fedora.redhat.com - it is an rpm based distribution (which is often considered to be paltry compared to deb / apt).
[10:08] <nutterpc> slackern, I don't use wifi
[10:08] <dontm> is it better to just use the cd and broadband download the pkgs u need after install?
[10:08] <nutterpc> and I don't have a need for printing atm
[10:08] <charle97> !suse
[10:08] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, charle97
[10:09] <mog_home> anybody
[10:09] <Frogzoo> dontm: it's more reliable imo - get the DVD
[10:09] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[10:09] <luli> dontm, yeah
[10:09] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:09] <amphi> luli: does the router have dhcp?
[10:09] <luli> amphi, yeah
[10:09] <Hannibal> ompaul: sorry, what do you mean? - Frogzoo: sorry about the Enter thing, and I'll try Alacarte. I'm asking because my normal install on my laptop got all those menus for free, and I didn't . Wonder what's up with that.
[10:09] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 i have not tried out the method 1 on that page on fresh Dapper instalation and method 2 not at all...and after 2 days wondering how i've heard the method 1 works fine on radeon 8500
[10:09] <FlyingSquirrel32> donfilipo:so it won't work with my gateway which has 7500. but maybe with the dell (rage mobility)
[10:09] <luli> amphi, that how this machine is connected to it.
[10:09] <twopeak> numlockx doesn't work anybody has a clue what could be the cause (after update)
[10:09] <nutterpc> sladen, everything you get, a new toy, you always play with it, see how far you can push it, before it breaks.......well, that's why I'm doing with Dapper now
[10:09] <amphi> luli: does it have mac addr filtering?
[10:09] <ompaul> Hannibal, there is an add applications menu item there
[10:09] <luli> amphi, nope.
[10:10] <Hannibal> ompaul: not for me.
[10:10] <whiter> anyone know why my "sudo" isnt working?
[10:10] <nutterpc> and surprisingly, dapper can be made to stretch a fair way dude
[10:10] <amphi> luli: dunno - you could pastebin the output of iwconfig iface and iwlist iface scan
[10:10] <luli> whiter, how not?
[10:10] <eobanb> whiter, what error message are you getting
[10:10] <Hannibal> Frogzoo: so, most of those menu items are checked, but they don't appear. Any clue why that would be?
[10:10] <dontm> Frogzoo ok so dvd is more reliable?
[10:10] <luli> amphi, k. one sec.
[10:10] <dontm> luli cd is better nad just dl pkgs later?
[10:10] <rackerz> why doesn't firefox let me check for updates even if i run 'gksudo firefox'
[10:10] <ompaul> Hannibal, Hannibal having Add/Remove be in the Applications menu in Gnome would also help <-- so that was my point
[10:10] <donfilipo> FlyingSquirrel32 yeah mobility clean install dapper if you can and use method 1 first maybe it will do
[10:11] <eobanb> rackerz, because it's a custom-built binary
[10:11] <whiter> i dont get an error message it just doesnt do anything
[10:11] <amphi> nutterpc: so dapper's looking good? can I recommend it to a cluebie? ;)
[10:11] <Hannibal> ompaul: right, but it's not there NOR in the System menu.
[10:11] <eobanb> rackerz, firefox updates should be managed through apt
[10:11] <Frogzoo> Hannibal: wierd...
[10:11] <whiter> whiter@xubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[10:11] <whiter> whiter@xubuntu:~$
[10:11] <ransu> are the custom images of Ubuntu 6.06 such as Laptop specifics or does the 'desktop' version include all the support for laptops as well ?
[10:11] <PetrolBomb> ANyone command to run Xchat from terminal?????????
[10:11] <whiter> is an example of it not working
[10:11] <eobanb> PetrolBomb, 'xchat'
[10:11] <siofwolves> Add/Remove is is the menu's in 6.06
[10:11] <rackerz> eobanb: the wiki tells me different.
[10:11] <nutterpc> amphi, well put it this way man......speed wise for me at least, on 512Mb RAM, its easily compareable to XP if not better
[10:11] <ompaul> Hannibal, dapper or breezy?
[10:11] <whiter> PetrolBomb - xchat2
[10:11] <Hannibal> Frogzoo: I did an OEM install, by accident (I filed a bug about the reason I accidentally did that)
[10:11] <Hannibal> ompaul: dapper
[10:12] <eobanb> rackerz, well maybe i'm wrong then :)
[10:12] <nutterpc> in terms of system responsiveness & general usage
[10:12] <ompaul> Hannibal, just a sec turn on the other box
[10:12] <Hannibal> Frogzoo: so my normal user probably didn't get the treatment it normally does get. Just not sure what exactly that treatment consists of
[10:12] <Hannibal> ompaul: I have all the evening, take it easy :)
[10:12] <ubuntu123> kean06: it worked, thank you!!!!  I wonder why I had issues.  THis is my first time using ubuntu, and I have to say, finally after all these years, they are finally getting closer.. very close.. to a windows replacement
[10:12] <rorian> I dunno if any of you have heard this yet, but.. Dapper is perfect & I love you all :)
[10:12] <uruguaian> hello.. :D
[10:13] <amphi> nutterpc: I was thinking more of how is it is to get up to speed with for someone without much clue
[10:13] <ompaul> Hannibal, it is a slow machine you may regret that
[10:13] <belkin> does anyone know where do i get dvdrecord package from ?
[10:13] <Hannibal> ompaul: heh. That's alright.
[10:13] <kdean06> ubuntu123, I've used Ubunut before, and i'll agree. Dapper is GREAT.
[10:13] <mnk> any help would be appreciated :)
[10:13] <ASTX813> Does anyone have advice whether FreeVo or MythTV is the way to go?
[10:13] <nutterpc> amphi, well you need a little bit of clue, and a little help too :)
[10:13] <rab> where is dappers menu logo?
[10:13] <ASTX813> Dapper rocks on my laptop, since we're singing praises
[10:13] <luli> amphi, http://pastebin.ca/61411
[10:13] <nutterpc> its not entirely easy to do, but not entirely hard either amphi
[10:13] <kdean06> ASTX813, MythTV. I think it's a bit more robust, and as far as I can tell, has a large community.
[10:13] <skippy81> ASTX813, MythTV is excellent
[10:14] <ubuntu123> kdean06: yeah I'm impressed, running it on an old sony laptop, it's fast!
[10:14] <amphi> nutterpc: yeah, well I'll have to do support, so I was hoping there'd be little need for it
[10:14] <preglow> is there a way to customise which services are started on startup?
[10:14] <nutterpc> without someone knowledgeable guiding you, it'd be fine
[10:14] <whiter> guys... my sudo isnt working
[10:14] <mirak> preglow: hello !!!
[10:14] <whiter> does anyone know how to fix it
[10:14] <uruguaian> please help, i have installed the packagge libapache2-mod-php4.. but it does not have mysql support?.. what i need?
[10:14] <dontm> !sudo
[10:14] <skippy81> preglow, download "BUM" from synaptic
[10:14] <preglow> mirak: why, hello
[10:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:14] <amphi> nutterpc: _without_ ?
[10:14] <kdean06> ubuntu123, Very few distros get GNOME working correctly for me.   Thanks
[10:15] <getit> my mbr was windows xp, and now it's shitcrap, what can i do ?
[10:15] <ubuntu123> kdean06: i was impressed it found all the devices/drivers.  how does samba work on this? I want to set up ubuntu as a print server in a windows networked environment
[10:15] <uruguaian> please help, i have installed the packagge libapache2-mod-php4.. but it does not have mysql support?.. what i need?
[10:15] <mirak> preglow: you can configure that in system settings in gnome
[10:15] <amphi> nutterpc: I'm thinking of installing it for a neighbour who is ripe for defenestration ;) I use debian myself
[10:15] <preglow> bum
[10:15] <preglow> argh
[10:15] <nutterpc> amphi, they would do fine
[10:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell getit about grub
[10:15] <kdean06> When importing .ogg files into Rhythmbox, it fails because fo "Unrecognized MIME types". I'm not finding anythign useful on Google, some help please?
[10:15] <amphi> nutterpc: cool, thanks for your input
[10:15] <mirak> preglow: or you install syvrcconfig, something like that, a command line tool
[10:15] <getit> i dont want to use grub
[10:15] <mbirkis> hi i was looking through my bash_history and i found this command:  PROMPT_COMMAND='pwd>&7;kill -STOP $$' <-- what is that, and i didn't write it!
[10:16] <preglow> mirak: yeah, tried that once as well
[10:16] <dontm> !dualboot
[10:16] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:16] <getit> but my system is fucked up
[10:16] <MaKkY> DeMoNSeEd,I sent you a message
[10:16] <nutterpc> amphi, if you want me to give you an idea about what can be done to dapper to give it a boot in the bum, pm me
[10:16] <preglow> mirak: the service configuration in gnome is a bit limited
[10:16] <getit> i need to get XP back running
[10:16] <dontm> !macbook
[10:16] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dontm
[10:16] <kdean06> ubuntu123, I've never used Samba. I have 5 linux machines, and a Mac.
[10:16] <mirak> preglow: yeah
[10:16] <ompaul> Hannibal, so it looks like its software preferences and then synaptic
[10:16] <[CC] Impsy> how long does the xubunutu install take?
[10:16] <amphi> luli: sorry, I'll look at your pastebin now
[10:16] <amphi> nutterpc: openbox? ;)
[10:16] <luli> amphi, tis all good
[10:16] <mirak> kdean06: try smbnetfs with Fuse, it allow to mount a full network on a folder
[10:16] <getit> how can i restore my windows xp MBR without having the installation CD ?!?
[10:17] <DeMoNSeEd> MaKkY, come to #gotux, it's a lil quieter, i'll try to help if i can
[10:17] <Hannibal> ompaul: I guess, but it's just not there at all :)
[10:17] <skippy81> preglow "sysv-rc-conf" is a more 'hardcore' services utility - not as easy to use as BUM
[10:17] <nutterpc> amphi, lol
[10:17] <[CC] Impsy> how long does the xubunutu install take?
[10:17] <kdean06> getit, You'll need an XP MBR restore disc. You hsould have made one before. There are other ways to restore a still working XP install, if you dual booted and didn't destroy the XP partition.
[10:17] <nutterpc> amphi, its a bit more than that dude ;)
[10:17] <[CC] Impsy> *xubuntu
[10:17] <preglow> skippy81: yeah, works fine for me
[10:17] <nutterpc> that's just masochism :P
[10:17] <getit> but i dont have the disc
[10:17] <Gerbils> Does anyone have experience with SIS 190 LAN Interface?
[10:17] <mbirkis> did this message come through recently? i wasn't regged when i wrote it... hi i was looking through my bash_history and i found this command:  PROMPT_COMMAND='pwd>&7;kill -STOP $$' <-- what is that, and i didn't write it!
[10:17] <getit> can i d/l an XP MBR RESTORE DSIC and burn it as an image ?
[10:17] <Flannel> dontm: this might be of some interest: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnMac
[10:17] <getit> kdean06 ?
[10:17] <luli> !tell [CC] Impsy about xubuntu
[10:17] <kdean06> mirak, I don't have anything running Windows. :-) I can already mount filesystems remotly with Linux. :-)
[10:17] <feg> !dri
[10:17] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill?  We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:18] <skippy81> language lol
[10:18] <getit> but it fucked up before i could do anything
[10:18] <luli> donfilipo, I think I have 8700
[10:18] <preglow> also, after reinstalling graphical boot screen disappeared. any way to get it back? i kinda liked it
[10:18] <Hannibal> ompaul: no, I expect it to be like my other dapper machine. :)
[10:19] <kdean06> getit, Do you have a working Linux partition?
[10:19] <donfilipo> luli and does it work properly?
[10:19] <dontm> Flannel i was looking for info on triple booting macosx, winxppro, ubuntu on a macbookpro mactel (intel chip)
[10:19] <amphi> luli: one thing is the interface is not at the correct freq/channel WRT the router
[10:19] <jsestri2> i cannot get the module USB_ZD 1201 to turn off
[10:19] <ompaul> Hannibal, yeah right
[10:19] <luli> donfilipo, nm. I have 9600
[10:19] <luli> donfilipo, but it's working.
[10:19] <mirak> kdean06: I don't have computers on windows as well
[10:19] <[CC] Impsy> i want to known how long it takes to install xubuntu
[10:19] <amphi> luli: secondly, I don't think the key is setup correctly, as nothing is shown about it in iwconfig output
[10:20] <rab> Where did the menu logo go? It used to be distributers-logo.png
[10:20] <mirak> kdean06: but samba is not used only by windows
[10:20] <crimsun> [CC] Impsy: depends on the speed of your cd-rom and HD.
[10:20] <luli> amphi, i set the key with "iwconfig eth1 key <key>"
[10:20] <donfilipo> luli 3d acceleration with fglrx drivers...works?
[10:20] <[CC] Impsy> crimsun: lol im installing on 350mhz
[10:20] <Hannibal> ompaul: it's not a terribly big deal because I'm savvy enough to use apt-get or fire up the necessary tools from a terminal, but it seems odd :)
[10:20] <sindrum> just intsalled drapper drake and the mouse isnt working...any ideas?
[10:21] <[CC] Impsy> sindrum: what kind of mouse?
[10:21] <amphi> luli: it should then appear in iwconfig output AFAIK
[10:21] <kdean06> sindrum, You say the mouse isn't working. What should it do that it isn't?
[10:21] <amphi> luli: but the freq/channel is wrong in any case
[10:21] <[CC] Impsy> sindrum: if its a serial mouse i had to manually edit the xorg.conf
[10:21] <edc> http://www.rootshell.be/~edc/bugzilla/ <-- dapper install errors, not filing a bug report, too much trouble, 3rd release now that didnt intall the bootloader correctly, grub failed also, which is why i used lilo
[10:21] <sindrum> ps2 oipticalmouse
[10:21] <ompaul> Hannibal, launchpad.net if you want it back or write up a spec for edgy
[10:21] <rab> where is dappers menu logo?
[10:22] <luli> amphi, channel is fine. I have 11 on the router. something wrong with that?
[10:22] <amphi> luli: iwlist <iface> freq will give a list of channels and their respective freqs
[10:22] <Hannibal> I am too lazy to write a spec, I believe. :)
[10:22] <sindrum> ok yeah
[10:22] <Hannibal> and too incapable.
[10:22] <ompaul> Hannibal, I just got a gnome-app-installer updateto dapper
[10:22] <wiking> anybody knows where are the config files of system tray ? :)
[10:22] <belkin> does anyone know where do i get dvdrecord package from ?
[10:22] <luli> donfilipo, seems too. The GL screensavers work pretty well.
[10:22] <amphi> luli: yeah, but the iface is channel 6
[10:22] <robin___> used easyubuntu and works great. java not working for firefox,  java and flash both working in konqueror, and quick way to fix
[10:22] <Hannibal> ompaul: yeah, got that earlier today when I did a manual apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[10:22] <belkin> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/devdump', which is also in package mkisofs
[10:22] <belkin> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:23] <Hannibal> oh, er, nevermind that last sentence
[10:23] <sindrum> where is xorg.conf located?
[10:23] <belkin> any ideea why do i get this while i try to install dvdrecord ?
[10:23] <cavediver> How come I end up in here when I join ubuntu+1 ?
[10:23] <ompaul> Hannibal, join #ubuntu-offtopic if you have further comments, we really are offtopic
[10:23] <gnomefreak> cavediver: there is no #ubuntu+1 atm
[10:23] <belkin> sindrum /etc/X11
[10:23] <cavediver> gnomefreak: hm ok..
[10:23] <feg> !xchat
[10:23] <ubotu> xchat is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto http://www.xchat.org/
[10:23] <gnomefreak> cavediver: dapper released final now its in here
[10:23] <donfilipo> luli maybe you have ati open source driver which works fine for me on debian sarge...you will see which driver you have if you type glxinfo in konzole
[10:24] <d-s-d> !sudo
[10:24] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:24] <amphi> luli: see if setting the iface to channel 11 helps
[10:24] <LogicalDash> I can't get my wireless card to work properly in Dapper. Ndiswrapper works just fine, but when I use iwconfig, it tells me that my access point is invalid. What should I do?
[10:24] <Hannibal> ompaul: I guess so. The question how I can get the menus to appear (they're there in Alacarte) is not so offtopic though, or is it?
[10:24] <belkin> !dvdrecord
[10:24] <ubotu> belkin: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:24] <luli> amphi, iwlist in cell1 said it's 11: Channel:11
[10:24] <cavediver> gnomefreak: I know, but I thought there was Edgy Eft discussions there. I know it hasn'tcome online yet but anyway
[10:24] <d-s-d> !cdrecord
[10:24] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, d-s-d
[10:24] <rab> where is dappers menu logo?
[10:24] <luli> donfilipo, one sec.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> cavediver: cant talk about whats not even a repo yet
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[10:24] <amphi> luli: the router is channel 11, but look at the freq in iwconfig output, and see what channel it is in iwlist <iface> freq
[10:24] <Kovecses> im downloading dapper atm
[10:24] <Pipehead> hello girls
[10:24] <cavediver> gnomefreak: but you can discuss things anyway.
[10:24] <rab> belkin, dappers menu icon
[10:25] <cavediver> Like speculating
[10:25] <gnomefreak> Pipehead: ive told you this is not the place for that
[10:25] <rab> belkin, the logo for it isnt the same as breezys
[10:25] <luli> amphi, k. I'll try and set channel to 11