[02:25] <LinDol> hello :) good morning ;)
[06:10] <damascene> Hi, I've tried to find a way to convert my Ubuntu to Ubuntu-gnome without re'reinstalling Ubuntu. I could not find a way on your website. Whoever I managed to do so using some guides. The problem that I'm still having the Unity sidebar and dash instead of the gnome-shell ones
[21:48] <matipixl> hello?


[04:13] <CDSmith> hey folks … having an issue installing
[04:13] <CDSmith> installer gets to "Installing bootloader" and freezes around 81%\
[04:13] <CDSmith> after while goes thru and then errors out
[04:14] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the iso?
[04:14] <wxl> and check the installation media for efects?
[04:15] <CDSmith> no sorry …. checking now
[04:15] <CDSmith> 8b8b03366298e7489df6bc34760f89aa
[04:15] <wxl> since i have no idea what version you're talking about that means little
[04:15] <CDSmith> 19.10
[04:18] <CDSmith> going to try 18.04
[04:18] <wxl> that is good
[04:18] <wxl> did you check the installation media?
[04:18] <CDSmith> yeah... its good
[04:18] <wxl> what's the error then?
[04:19] <CDSmith> long error message … will try 18.04 and come back ….
[04:19] <wxl> i wouldn't suggest 18.04
[04:19] <CDSmith> I have since closed the message
[04:20] <CDSmith> ???
[04:20] <wxl> support ends relatively shortly and the transition to 20.04 will not be easy
[04:20] <CDSmith> is there a better distro ?
[04:20] <wxl> we don't support upgrades from 18.04 to anything and would suggest a fresh install
[04:20] <wxl> there's a perfect option: 19.10
[04:21] <CDSmith> can I upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10 ?
[04:21] <CDSmith> nvm … read above
[04:21] <wxl> the same way we'd suggest upgrading 18.04 to anything: a fresh install
[04:22] <CDSmith> hmmm ….
[04:23] <CDSmith> I am using Rufus to load the install to a bootable thumb drive
[04:23] <wxl> i've not heard of this error you're talking about so something's not right, which i'm sure will become apparent with the actual error message
[04:23] <wxl> oh man yeah i've seen things not work right with rufus
[04:23] <wxl> how did you check the install media for defects?
[04:24] <CDSmith> i'm not great with the technical side of this just yet....
[04:24] <wxl> well when you boot it there's a "check disc for defects option"
[04:24] <wxl> do that. you probably have a copy error (i.e. blame rufus)
[04:24] <CDSmith> is there a better option to rufus ?
[04:25] <wxl> i don't use windows, so can't tell you :/
[04:40] <CDSmith> trying with different media creation tool
[04:40] <CDSmith> Universal UBS installer
[04:40] <wxl> make sure to do that "check disc for defects" thing
[04:41] <CDSmith> on it now
[04:41] <CDSmith> no errors found
[04:42] <wxl> ok give it another shot
[04:46] <CDSmith> filling up file systems
[04:46] <wxl> ?
[04:47] <CDSmith> part of the install
[04:47] <CDSmith> 20%
 try balena etcher
 to create bootable usb
 and i dont have problem with installing lubuntu but i had smilar problem with kubuntu
[04:52] <CDSmith> 81% currently …. this is where it stalls for a few minutes
[04:52] <CDSmith> "Install bootloader"
 yeah, i understand u, i had smilar error with kubuntu and tried 3-4 times...
 well, u can try balena etcher before next trying if u want :)
[04:54] <wxl> that's not the issue
[04:54] <wxl> is it dead?
 what u mean by dead?
[04:55] <wxl> i'm asking CDSmith
[04:56] <CDSmith> its not "dead" but its not doing anything currently either
[04:56] <CDSmith> doing the install.... eventually gives error message
[04:56] <wxl> give it some time
[04:57] <CDSmith> still at 81%
[04:58] <CDSmith> 6 minutes now at 81%.....
 it s just there but u dont get error?
[04:59] <CDSmith> no error yet
 ahh, u should wait :D maybe ur harddisk is slow
[05:01] <CDSmith> 90% now
[05:01] <CDSmith> error
[05:01] <wxl> so what is the exact error?
[05:01] <CDSmith> boost.Python error in job "packages".
[05:02] <wxl> the whole error
[05:02] <CDSmith> one sec
[05:11] <CDSmith> tried to copy and paste and it didn't work ….
[05:12] <CDSmith> have to go thru the process again
[05:14] <wxl> you can always use pastebinit
[05:32] <CDSmith> Boost.Python error in job "packages".
[05:32] <CDSmith> Command 'apt-get --purge -q -y remove ^live-* calamares-settings-lubuntu calamares hunspell-en-us zram-config cifs-utils' returned non-zero exit status 100.
[05:32] <CDSmith> Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... Package 'live-initramfs' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-config-sysvinit' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-build' is not installed, so not removed Package 'livecd-rootfs' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-boot' is not
[05:32] <CDSmith> installed, so not removed Package 'live-boot-doc' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-boot-initramfs-tools' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-build-cgi' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-config' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-config-doc' is not installed, so not removed Package
[05:32] <CDSmith> 'live-config-systemd' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-epub' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-html' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-odf' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-pdf' is not installed, so not removed
[05:32] <CDSmith> Package 'live-manual-txt' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-tools' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-wrapper' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-wrapper-doc' is not installed, so not removed Package 'livemedia-utils' is not installed, so not removed Package 'lives' is not installed, so not removed Package
[05:32] <guiverc> !pastebinit CDSmith
[05:33] <guiverc> please use pastebinit CDSmith
[05:33] <wxl> wth
[05:33] <guiverc> !pastebinit
[05:33] <wxl> why on earth are they not installed?
[05:34] <wxl> there should be a log at ~/.cache/calamares/session.log
[05:34] <wxl> you can open a terminal and `pastebinit -i ~/.cache/calamares/session.log` and share the resulting uri here
[05:37] <CDSmith> not sure where to see that log
[05:37] <CDSmith> I am looking now
[05:37] <wxl> just open a terminal and enter the command and it will do the rest
[05:38] <CDSmith> permission denied
[05:39] <wxl> uh
 root
[05:39] <wxl> are you sure you typed it right?
[05:39] <CDSmith> yeah … checked twice permission denied at root.... this is off the thumb drive remember
[05:41] <wxl> wait a minute
[05:41] <wxl> you pulled the usb and put it in somewhere else?
[05:43] <CDSmith> I entered the command … no result yet
[05:43] <CDSmith> no uri
[05:44] <wxl> i literally just did this
[05:44] <CDSmith> its working but its not going
[05:44] <wxl> it takes a few seconds
[05:45] <wxl> but no more than 10
[05:45] <CDSmith> just gives me a blank space underneath the command I entered
[05:47] <wxl> are you SURE you checked the disc for errors?
[05:47] <CDSmith> got it
[05:48] <CDSmith> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HNwJM5rytm/
[05:51] <CDSmith> have to head to bed.... will be back at this tomorrow …. I will leave myself logged in here until then
[06:59] <mykul_> hello all
 @mykul_ [<mykul_> hello all], hi
[10:34] <trucker> i want to make a lubuntu boot disk with the pre-installed utility from lubuntu "boot disk make" but i can't see my dvd+rw disc that i haven put in my  machine
[11:17] <guiverc> trucker, the lubuntu manual (https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.2/booting_the_image.html) has a link on burning a dvd from ubuntu, refer https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu#1-getting-started  (You didn't specify a version of Lubuntu, the manual page I gave was for latest 19.10)
[11:26] <trucker> @guiverc, i have read the manuals and i have found the problem. the tool i use Startup Disk Creator can only make live usb stick and not live dvd's i will install Brasero and try that
[11:29] <guiverc> :)
[11:30] <trucker> the iso is now burning on the disc
[12:21] <trucker> thanks guiverc, i have succes full burn the iso
[13:39] <nmzm> hello everyone. Are there any limits on how large can be shell script?
[13:39] <nmzm> Like 1000 lines maximum or something like that
[18:28] <CDSmith> anyone have any ideas on this failed install ???? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HNwJM5rytm/
[18:30] <CDSmith> does it matter if the install medium is NTFS or FAT32
[20:29] <tomreyn> CDSmith: https://askubuntu.com/questions/765946/can-not-write-log-is-dev-pts-mounted-openpty-in-ubuntu-on-windows
[20:29] <tomreyn> !WSL
[21:32] <CDSmith> replaced the HDD and it installed without issue.... thanks to those that assisted me with this
[21:32] <wxl> so what was the problem?
[21:32] <CDSmith> the HDD in the old PC
[21:32] <CDSmith> once I change the HDD it worked like a charm
 ahh
[21:32] <wxl> oh yeah i forgot to explain linux can't fix broken X''''D
 did u try uefi install?
[21:33] <CDSmith> haha for sure
[21:33] <CDSmith> yes I did … and the system still wouldn't install all the way... kept getting error
[21:33] <CDSmith> think the drive was corrupt
 if its about drive, maybe u should have format ur drive to gpt first...
[21:34] <CDSmith> possibly... either way the new drive has about 420 GB more space.... lol
 when i first try to install linux, that was the problem i couldnt understand and make me reinstall 20 times...
[21:35] <CDSmith> currently updating the install
 glad to hear u could install really
 i also like lubuntu
 are you new at linux or?
[21:36] <CDSmith> just had an old PC that really needed a lighter OS in it....
[21:36] <CDSmith> new to Linux
[21:36] <CDSmith> might turn into a new plex server here
[21:37] <CDSmith> any suggestions ?
 there s one suggestion from me cuz it was helpfull, if u want set some apparance things to lubuntu first try its menu for that but also check pling app, u need to find lxqt in its menu for themes ofc
 ahh, there s another suggestion :D if u want format usb, install mintstick, i also like "ice" app for seperate browsers
 also if u want transparent panel u need to active "compton" from settings, i like it.
 that s all for now :D
 good night, sleep well guys
[22:03] <CDSmith> how do I set a password for my nickname ?
[22:04] <wxl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.15/users_and_groups.html
[22:04] <kc2bez> CDSmith: or here on freenode?
[22:05] <CDSmith> here … lol but thank you that was coming next
[22:05] <kc2bez> !register
[22:14] <CDSmith> and there we go... all passworded up and registered
[22:14] <wxl> welcome to the big time
[22:15] <CDSmith> hahaha for sure
[22:19] <david__> hi
[22:20] <wxl> hey
[22:21] <david__> Lubuntu works Fine
[22:22] <wxl> horray!
[22:42] <david__> But I have had problems with Nvidia drivers and I wonder why Linux allows Nvidia I find if there is a 64 dpi 1360X768 resolution problem after a proprother driver installation. then after the Nvidia graphics driver installation everything is terribly small. Why Nvidia is not prohibited
[22:42] <david__> Greetings David
[22:42] <david__> opensorce graphics driver goes great
[22:47] <wxl> david__: i agree with you but there's a bunch of folks that do not, especially given that with nvidia a lot of features are not revealed with the reverse engineered open source driver. for gamers or others making heavy use of their gpu, this becomes a concern.
[22:56] <MasterKing> Hey!!! Can I install Lubuntu on a 8GB thumb drive?
[22:58] <CDSmith> how do i get gnome working in lubuntu ??? I installed the extension for chrome
[22:59] <CDSmith> and some misc. other commands in the terminal
[22:59] <CDSmith> or how do i open it in my system ?
[23:00] <wxl> so let me get this straight, you typed a bunch of random stuff and it's not working? XD
[23:01] <kc2bez> Gnome extensions will only work in Gnome.
[23:01] <CDSmith> ok ... take it easy on the new guy
[23:01] <CDSmith> lol
[23:01] <wxl> heheheh
[23:01] <wxl> it's always best to approach any problem from the perspective of what you're trying to accomplish
[23:01] <CDSmith> lets say I am trying to install Dash-toDock
[23:02] <wxl> yeah that's for gnome and so if you want that you get alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the bloated gnome desktop to go with it
[23:02] <wxl> at that point, you might as well just use ubuntu
[23:02] <CDSmith> its gives me a .ZIP file and I dont know what to do with it
[23:02] <kc2bez> We don't have a dash so you can't dock it.
[23:03] <CDSmith> see .... there we go....
[23:03] <CDSmith> lol
[23:03] <wxl> but
[23:03] <CDSmith> I didnt know that .... baby steps here
[23:03] <wxl> there are docks out there
[23:03] <kc2bez> MasterKing: you might want to look at mkusb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent
[23:04] <MasterKing> I know how to install it; I want to know if it fits on a 8GB drive
[23:05] <kc2bez> I think it should, you may be a bit tight on extra storage but the base system will fit.
[23:06] <CDSmith> I was basically looking at a " just intalled lubuntu... here are 20 things you should do..."
[23:06] <MasterKing> ok thanks; i'll give it a try then
[23:07] <kc2bez> I might be the wrong person to ask :P CDSmith I don't really do much.
[23:09] <CDSmith> no worries .... I guess I am looking for guidance on how to work with lubuntu at an entry level ... want it to function like a PC but obviously with a little more of a challenge
[23:10] <kc2bez> CDSmith: if you are looking for a dock a few come to mind. Cairo, docky, plank, and latte dock all come to mind.
[23:10] <wxl> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/kdocker ?
[23:11] <kc2bez> TIL ^
[23:11] <CDSmith> i just dont know how to install them I guess.... I am a quick learner ...
[23:12] <kc2bez> If they are in the repo you can find them and install them using muon or discover.
[23:13] <kc2bez> Our manual has some on using them https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/4/Installing_Updating_and_Removing_Software.html
[23:17] <david__> OK I know that you have to edit the script xsetup to get it to work, but I'm thinking of a new syncronization script or program that automatically fixes this problem. I know that it means a lot of work for Linux, but it would get around that Linux developers would try to do it Fix small bugs at KDE, XFCE, Lubuntu
[23:17] <david__> the modified xsetup script has to look like this xrandr --64 dpi then the picture looks good again.
[23:17] <david__> Otherwise, I really don't see anything under Linux. You get a lot more freedom than under Windows. I've been away from Windows for 2 years. I don't regret it.
[23:17] <david__> Very good work


[07:16] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/09/fairphone-is-exploring-a-switch-to-ubuntu-touch
[08:06] <guest35g> Anyone who plan to install Ubuntu touch on phone 2016 with 820 Snapdragon
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !devices | guest35g
[08:10] <guest35g> How can I add a new device on the list?
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> guest35g: check the XDA forums for an existing project...or start porting ubuntu touch for your device
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> guest35g: you cant just install touch on random devices for now
[08:18] <elim_> does anyone know which apps/scopes have access to contacts and other personal data? is there or will there be a way to set app/scope permissions?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> elim_: i think ubuntu touch is safer then android for permissions
[15:50] <infernix> any ideas why my nexus 2013 doesn't auto rotate? just installed stable channel on it
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> infernix: best channel atm for n7 is devel-proposed
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> i run it myself and works like a charm
[16:02] <infernix> not seeing it on adb after turning on develop mode
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> infernix: installed the phablet tools?
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> infernix: check the install wiki here in topic
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> its very usefull
[16:06] <infernix> it doesn't use adb?
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> adb devices should show your device + number yes
[16:08] <infernix> it doesn't though
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> infernix: did you unlock bootloader
[16:09] <infernix> i see it on lsusb
[16:09] <infernix> and yeah i just flashed stable on it
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> it must show adb devices yourdevice + number
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> or it wont work
[16:09] <infernix> will reboot it, see if it shows up then
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[16:12] <infernix> i'll just bootstrap it from fastboot
[16:12] <infernix> probably something in stable branch breaking adb device-side
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> did you install those phablet tools?
[16:22] <infernix> i'm on debian sid, i'd like to keep the ubuntu packages to a minimum
[16:22] <infernix> will remove ubuntu-device-flash after this is done
[16:23] <infernix> tried it in a precise chroot earlier but that didn't take for some reason
[16:38] <infernix> well
[16:39] <infernix> still no rotation on devel-proposed
[16:39] <infernix> oh
[16:39] <infernix> there it is
[16:57] <neillie> I get a boot loop with the boot.img I built. the last_kmsg shows almost nothing. Last line is 'Starting kernel at 0x81808000...'. Any ideas?
[17:08] <infernix> so rotation does work but the main app launcher is stuck in landscape
[17:08] <infernix> and only in one orientation. e.g. works in 0 degrees but not in 90/180/270
[17:09] <infernix> not sure why it doesn't work in 180 as that's also landscape
[17:18] <Inglebard> Hi, someone knows if there is (or one currently in development) an IRC client for Ubuntu phone ?
[17:18] <neillie> when trying to create ext2 boot image (TARGET_BOOTIMAGE_USE_EXT2 := true) the building fails: Target boot image for Ubuntu Touch: ..... Unknown option --base.
[21:21] <joe__> mHelp, I've installed 14.04.3 on VM and can't update. I've tried to cat the /etc/resolv.conf but I am unable to fix the problem since it won't let me change the file.
[21:23] <joe__> PS the update does not take even though It finds the update files.


[22:58] <F2_> Bryanstein: now that’s a nickname
[22:59] <Bryanstein> Ah F2_ what a lovely surprise :oD
[23:00] <mhall119> Bryanstein: I emailed you abstracts on the 23, did you get them?
[23:00] <mhall119> I also asked about having 60 minute slots rather than 90
[23:01] <Bryanstein> mhall119, I got the abstract but not the reduction in time...lemme look again
[23:01] <mhall119> Bryanstein: at the bottom of the email
[23:02] <f2> and I even have my nick password to prove it
[23:02] <f2> ha
[23:02]  * Bryanstein steals f2 's password
[23:02] <f2> Bryanstein: don’t you dare
[23:02] <f2> :-)
[23:02] <Bryanstein> :oP
[23:02] <Bryanstein> mhall119, ummm so the whole point was for everything to line up
[23:03] <f2> Bryanstein: I’ll be there Saturday.  Thanks for arranging the time, I just found a flight that lets me come down in the morning and back by midnight
[23:03] <mhall119> Bryanstein: I know, but 1.5 hours is a long time to fill
[23:03] <Bryanstein> f2, Saturday...you're cutting it close...not much sun for you!
[23:04] <Bryanstein> mhall119, well sorta...the whole point is to have sessions end together
[23:04] <f2> Bryanstein: I know - if it was up to me I would stay all week.  But my dearest is sick, so I want to be home this month, your Saturday is my only planned day away
[23:04] <mhall119> Bryanstein: do you have another track running thursday that's filled with 1.5 hour slots?
[23:04] <Bryanstein> So if you have 3 people in 3 hours so be it
[23:05] <Bryanstein> But that creates a situation where you need 6 people or 5 people and a 1 hour panel
[23:05] <mhall119> Bryanstein: My concern is that I'll have 1 hour of material for a 90 minute slot
[23:06] <Bryanstein> mhall119, well like I said...as long as there is one per hour for the duration and ending at lunch...it's cool
[23:06] <Bryanstein> Now if you don't have enough content to fill the space then I can try to arrange getting someone else in there and shortening the Ubucon
[23:06] <mhall119> Bryanstein: ok, let me arrange what we've got and see how it fits
[23:06] <Bryanstein> Instead of 6 it can be 3
[23:07] <mhall119> Bryanstein: can you email me the actual timeslots we have? I'll email you back a proposed schedule for them
[23:07] <Bryanstein> mhall119, it's on the list :oP
[23:07] <Bryanstein> I'll dig it out and email it to you
[23:08] <mhall119> thanks, just the start and end times for each slot is all I need
[23:08] <Bryanstein> mhall119, so this is the canundrum...hmm I spelled that right...I'm worrying that there might not be enough gas to get through the full 6
[23:08] <mhall119> Bryanstein: I'm assuming you'll post the schedule and provide signage for the sessions?
[23:10] <Bryanstein> mhall119, well so far the topics are posted but there is a lot of flux, we only know who is doing what in regards to the sessions submitted which is two!
[23:10] <Bryanstein> There is digital signage but the time slots...no one has actually responded to the email thread.
[23:11] <Bryanstein> Well not no one..not since about a week or two ago
[23:12] <Bryanstein> http://fossetcon.org/2014/session/ubucon-fossetcon
[23:14] <Bryanstein> That is what we have and the other sessions have no data because when I made them they were still concepts and being that f2 is coming in on Sat..he'll miss the Ubucon completely so errr has has to be taken off
[23:14] <mhall119> bbl, dinner time
[23:16] <f2> Bryanstein: sorry, promise to bring down some fun hardware next time to make up, but the Server Deep Dive Saturday is all I can do right now.
[23:19] <Bryanstein> f2, sure thing!
[23:25] <f2> Bryanstein: I may actually have something to show you Saturday… looks like I may get my hands on an A15 board next week
[23:26] <Bryanstein> Hmmm so are you going to show it and leave it with me or just show it and run off?
[23:26] <Bryanstein> f2, I might have some hardware to give you also :oD
[23:26] <f2> Bryanstein: I will show it to you, not to the audience ;-) The Deep Dive is a security and Kernel thing, not a handware show
[23:27] <Bryanstein> f2,  of course but there are hardware geeks lurking everywhere...I'm asking if you are going to GIVE me the A15?
[23:28]  * Bryanstein remembers to look up f2 's room number >:o)
[23:28] <f2> haha
[23:28]  * f2 will have to remember to use the safe
[23:28] <Bryanstein> f2, you given any thought to the minnowboard max?
[23:29] <Bryanstein> hahaha
[23:29] <Bryanstein> There is a really nice safe in the rooms too
[23:29] <f2> Bryanstein: cannot be worse than the original.  Is it shipping yet?
[23:30] <Bryanstein> f2 yes it actually is...the original heh...lets not talk about that here...this channel is logged :oP
[23:30] <f2> :-D
[23:30] <Bryanstein> But now...the max...a whole lot better...worlds better...some minor issues but they are firmware fixes, well so far
[23:31] <Bryanstein> It's a pretty nifty little piece of hardware that of course obliterates our dear ARM in regards to io throughput
[23:31] <Bryanstein> 2GB of ram...with a fancy uefi thing going on
[23:32] <f2> yes, because we need the mouse to set up the BIOS :-)
[23:32] <f2> but I agree, it is getting interesting
[23:33] <f2> Bryanstein: Yocto, I presume?
[23:34] <Bryanstein> Haha...well this one...I don't think it's like full blown gui...it's more like a traditional bios with no mouse so far
[23:34] <Bryanstein> f2, well initially that was the target...but ummm most enthusiasts don't run it
[23:34] <Bryanstein> It runs everything though and well...I
[23:35] <Bryanstein> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RoF99T_TQ
[23:35] <Bryanstein> I recorded that just for wtf sake
[23:44] <mhall119> \
[23:52] <f2> Bryanstein: you need practice with those rockets man
[23:52] <f2> :D
[23:53] <Bryanstein> f2, those are the worst...I'm better with the machine gun
[23:53] <f2> Bryanstein: I’d say it definitely has better frame rate than a Raspberry PI, I’ll grant you that
[23:53] <Bryanstein> f2, oh well I have it limited to 60fps
[23:53] <Bryanstein> In the game and the LCD limits it
[23:53] <Bryanstein> It is a horse for sure
[23:53] <Bryanstein> It's matching the hz sync rate to the frame rate
[23:54] <Bryanstein> The only thing that is keeping me from really really using it is the sata multiplier isn't yet enabled in the firmware :o(
[23:55] <Bryanstein> I've got a Raid array that I'd like to use it with but it only recognizes 1 drive so far
[23:56] <f2> Bryanstein: but it will work? Not seen a single small board supporting that yet
[23:56] <f2> (sata multiplier)


[02:01] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: with respect to the question in #ubuntustudio I notice when I open the settings manager and goto hardware color corrections, There is a box that says: "You need Gnome Color Management installed in order to calibrate devices."
[02:02] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yeah, but even with that, it doesn't work right. If one wants screen calibration (which isn't clear from the question), the best way is to install DisplayCAL from a flatpak because there's no other package for it.
[02:02] <OvenWerks> wonderful. OK
[02:02] <OvenWerks>  good to know.
[02:03] <Eickmeyer> They could be talking about printer color profiles, which is completely out of my league.
[02:05] <Eickmeyer> RE: DisplayCAL, TL;DR: Upstream dev sees no value in moving on from Python2/GTK2, so he just can't be arsed because his project is making enough money from donations from Windows/Mac users.
[02:06] <Eickmeyer> Someone unofficially packaged the flatpak, and another person got it to work in Python3/GTK3, but it's a fork and needs rebranding/renaming to be packaged as a deb.
[17:49] <Eickmeyer> Well, Audacity is borked. bug 1983862. Looks like we'll be seeding the snap this time around. *sigh*


[07:06] <happyaron> ypwong: https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel/pull/29
[07:07] <FJKong> https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel/pull/29
[13:33] <JackYu> ypwong, hi


[00:29] <maco> daftykins:
[00:30] <maco> i am slowly becoming more disabled, and I may need to use dictation software to interact with my computer at some point. Dragon isn't available for Linux.
[00:32] <maco> so when it was time for new hardware, i went for hardware that came with a mainstream os preinstalled
[00:32] <maxFlexGuest63> The AERobot will likely run at least one of the Ubuntu flavors. Ubuntu Budgie does not have a channel, but other flavors do. AERobot will be compatible with Ubuntu Linux, ideally with 16GB or even 32GB of system memory. I think one of the Ubuntu flavors will meet my needs best.
[00:59] <maxFlexGuest63> Are you able to add a Xubuntu discuss channel? I think I need one because I have a non-support Xubuntu question.
[01:15] <Ben64> xubuntu is ubuntu though
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:18] <ducasse> good morning
[07:18] <marcoagpinto> morning, guys!
[07:18] <marcoagpinto> :)
[07:22] <ducasse> morn marcoagpinto
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> it is my birthday!!!!
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> 47 years old
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> I am getting old
[07:22] <ducasse> congratulations! i turned 47 on saturday!
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> we are almost 50
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> :p
[07:23] <ducasse> i know :-/
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> half a century
[07:28] <ducasse> who knew we would live this long
[07:29] <ducasse> i've been using linux for nearly 30 years
[09:55] <guiverc> :) ducasse (30 years using..)  I'll never catch up to your %.of.life.using.linux :(
[10:01] <daftykins> guiverc: we could tie him up, then you'll catch up!
[10:03] <guiverc> :)   being tied up that many years & forcing him to use a non-GNU/Linux OS would be cruel; esp. given I'm older so % & I thought in terms of % of life..
[10:17] <ducasse> guiverc: luckily, it's not a competition :)
[10:18] <ducasse> i think my first distro had a v0.63 kernel
[10:19] <guiverc> :)
[10:20] <ducasse> quite a difference to today
[10:21] <guiverc> i think it was debian 2.0 I first used; so kernel 2.0 I think
[10:22] <ducasse> still a long time ago
[11:20] <guiverc> maybe ducasse, but I don't think I ever tried Ubuntu before 2010 (I only used debian GNU/Linux, or distros with GNU in the name).. I really only see me using/appreciating it about 2010, when it became my primary OS
[11:24] <Maik> marcoagpinto: congratulations
[11:24] <Maik> you're the same age as me now
[11:26] <marcoagpinto> thanks
[15:01] <daftykins> maco: ah sorry to hear that, didn't mean it by way of judging at all though, gotta use whatever works!
[15:19] <leftyfb> locsmif_work: it's pretty similar to calling Microsoft and asking them which video editing software to use. Not to mention the multitude of possible answers from people with all different levels of experience
[15:22] <locsmif_work> leftyfb: I'm more of the opinion that support channels should be welcoming rather than chase users away or police every question as part of $unwanted_category_of_question_although_asked_by_ubuntu_user_about_ubuntu_system
[15:22] <locsmif_work> But ok, I guess he's not coming anyway
[15:27] <leftyfb> g3poandlsl: it also makes no sense that they have a mandate around running an antivirus on a linux distro, yet the mandate is "eh, just choose whatever one you find, as long as you tell us it's always running, but we really have no way of knowing"
[15:28] <daftykins> sounds like a policy-based box-ticking exercise
[15:28] <leftyfb> right, not based on security at all
[15:28] <g3poandlsl> leftyfb, I take it you've never worked for the government ;)
[15:29] <Ussat> Running AV on a Linux distro is not always a bad thing, depends on the use of the linux distro, mailserver ? samba servibg out windows shares ?
[15:29] <leftyfb> g3poandlsl: run a bash script that runs "find" every few minutes with a --scanning parameter. That should appease them
[15:30] <leftyfb> it will also be about as effective as most other linux AV's
[15:30] <Ussat> leftyfb, um....again, it depends on the use case.
[15:31] <Ussat> clamav on a samba server or mail server scannning specific areas is totally valid
[15:31] <leftyfb> Ussat: right, for catching Windows viruses that only work on Windows
[15:32] <g3poandlsl> security is, of course, important to us, but we realize that an antivirus product is going to do very little for us security-wise
[15:32] <Ussat> I work for a govt entity, and we have no mandate to run AV on all linus servers
[15:33] <g3poandlsl> we're just trying to 'comply' with the policy, and ideally make management of the security clients as easy for our IT team as possible
[15:33] <leftyfb> g3poandlsl: look into things like tripwire and locking down the root filesystem and focus on attack vectors that might actually affect linux workstations like the browser
[15:33] <Ussat> g3poandlsl, that is, the wrong approach IMHO, the policy needs to be changed to be rational
[15:34] <Ussat> and yes, I have had that fight here
[15:35] <g3poandlsl> Ussat, I agree. However, these policies are generally made by ill-informed heads of departments that are influenced by bureaucracy
[15:36] <daftykins> i suspect g3poandlsl doesn't want to be challenged on the efficacy of things but just wants suggestions to jump through the hoops that have been defined
[15:37] <g3poandlsl> I understand what the 'correct' answer is, but unfortunately, that is not possible in our organization
[15:39] <g3poandlsl> daftykins, this accurately illustrates my intent.  I should have been more clear about this
[15:39] <Ussat> g3poandlsl, I agree, we had the same here
[15:39] <daftykins> i think you might need a better source than IRC if you're doing government work and have to jump through such hoops?
[15:42] <g3poandlsl> daftykins, probably. Just figured I'd give it a shot
[15:42] <g3poandlsl> thanks for the help all


[00:11] <Yankees52> !ops
[00:12] <Yankees52> please ban me
[00:12] <Yankees52> !staff
[00:12] <Yankees52> please kline me
[00:13] <Yankees52> !staff
[00:13] <Yankees52> !ops
[00:13] <elky> Yankees52, what happened to those kindle books?
[00:14] <Yankees52> kindle is dead
[00:14] <Yankees52> plus i just had 3 40z budwesier
[00:14] <Yankees52> s
[00:14] <elky> You should plug it in to charge occasionally.
[00:14] <Yankees52> so please ban me
[00:15] <Budwesier> !ops
[00:15] <Budwesier> BAN ME
[00:16] <Budwesier> PLEASE
[00:16] <elky> Nobody who can is around.
[00:16] <Budwesier> I JUST DRANK BUDWEISER THE KING OF BEERS
[00:16] <Budwesier> YOU ARE
[00:16] <Budwesier> elky is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Melissa Draper)
[00:16] <Budwesier> SEE @UBUNTU
[00:16] <Budwesier> SO YOU CAN BAN ME THE KING OF BUDWESIERS
[00:17] <Budwesier> PLEASE =)
[00:17] <elky> I can't here.
[00:18] <Budwesier> !ops
[00:18] <Budwesier> oh i c ur name isnt here
[00:18] <elky> try /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-unity list
[00:23] <Budwesier> whats that do?
[00:23] <elky> shows you who actually has ops
[00:24] <elky> anyone with o in their flags.
[00:24] <Budwesier> ojj
[00:24] <Budwesier> oh i see
[00:24] <Budwesier> !staff
[00:24] <Budwesier> maybe staff will ban me?
[00:25] <Budwesier> so melissa baby what do you do for ubunt?
[00:25] <Budwesier> u
[00:25] <Budwesier> my job is to get drunk every night
[00:26] <Budwesier> ?
[00:30] <Budwesier> !ops
[00:31] <Budwesier> !OPS
[00:31] <Budwesier> !staff
[14:20] <quirkyquark> mhall119: are you around?
[17:37] <alo21> hi all
[17:38] <alo21> can someone says me where trash source are?
[17:39] <alo21> I would like to fix some bugs, but unity's folder are very dispersive
[17:51] <AlanBell> alo21: the unity source is lp:unity not sure what you mean by the trash source
[17:52] <alo21> AlanBell: what is the file .cpp which is about the trash in the Launcher
[17:52] <alo21> ?
[17:54] <AlanBell> launcher/TrashLauncherIcon.cpp
[17:54] <AlanBell> mostly
[17:54] <AlanBell> grep the source for Trash to find other places it is mentioned
[17:57] <alo21> AlanBell: ok thank you


[07:33] <dholbach> good morning
[08:03] <dholbach> davidcalle: do you know what the state of deployments is right now? do we know why the last deployment to production failed?
[08:19] <davidcalle> dholbach: I don't, all I know is that it worked on staging. mhall119 will know more :)
[08:19] <dholbach> ok
[08:20] <dholbach> I was just wondering if the latest went to prod :)
[12:52] <dholbach> davidcalle: I found a markdown extension to allow github-style markdown - the snappy folks will be happy now :)
[12:53] <davidcalle> dholbach, Hah, excellent :)
[13:13] <mhall119> davidcalle: dholbach: something is wrong with the request headers being sent to the devportal, and a change in the last deployment tried to use them which caused the failures
[13:15] <dholbach> will it be hard to fix?
[13:15] <mhall119> I don't know, but I can revert the change that triggers it
[13:15] <dholbach> mh
[13:15] <dholbach> ok
[13:34] <davidcalle> mhall119: which changes trigger it?
[13:37] <mhall119> I added USE_X_FORWARDED_HOST in charm_settings.py
[13:37] <mhall119> that was suppose to fix the cn.developer.ubuntu.com redirects, by telling Django the original request host, but instead it's giving Django invalid Host headers
[14:20] <mhall119> dholbach: davidcalle: Found the bug and a potential fix: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/11877
[14:22] <davidcalle> mhall119: 6yo patch!
[14:22]  * dholbach crosses fingers
[14:23] <mhall119> davidcalle: the patch was actually just to documentation, there's an attached middleware we can use to fix the actual problem, I'm working on incorporating that now
[14:25] <dholbach> davidcalle: I'm working on fixing links in the importer again :)
[14:31] <davidcalle> dholbach: I'm wondering how the initial logic for link scales up to what you are doing
[14:32] <dholbach> I don't think it's too bad, but I'm thinking about adding some tests for this - otherwise it's just going to be too brittle
[15:24] <dholbach> davidcalle: can you help me fix the markup of https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/porting/ - I was just trying to fix a link, but some previous unpublished changes were still in there - now the 8- and 12-cols are a bit mixed up - or something :-)
[15:29] <davidcalle> dholbach: ouch :) Looking
[15:29]  * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[15:53] <davidcalle> dholbach: fixed, there were multiple issues but the main layout one was caused by "twelve-code" instead of "twelve-col"
[15:54] <dholbach> ugh...
[15:54]  * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[15:54] <dholbach> thanks a lot for fixing it
[16:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, mhall119: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/rework-importer/revision/220 - tada! :)
[16:17] <davidcalle> dholbach: Nooooooo
[16:18] <dholbach> davidcalle: you'd prefer to keep the site working just magically? :-P
[16:18] <davidcalle> mhall119: look we have a volunteer to write the duc testsuite :D
[16:18] <davidcalle> dholbach: that's awesome, though, how do you run it? :)
[16:18] <dholbach> manage.py test
[16:21]  * davidcalle tries
[16:23] <mhall119> davidcalle: if we have the framework setup for them, we can ask for volunteers, maybe from GCI?
[16:26] <davidcalle> dholbach, this would be very interesting, but I'm wondering if we have many things to be tested. From the top of my mind I can only think of a handful of tests: Maybe 3 for the API importer, 2 for the webapps generator.
[16:26] <dholbach> for all our custom code I guess we should have a test or two
[16:26] <dholbach> and for the markdown importer I'm going to have at least 10 tests or something
[16:27] <davidcalle> True
[17:48] <mhall119> davidcalle: the js scopes docs package doesn't have a data.json, which is the entry point for the yuidoc importer