[00:00] <ompaul> can you see my nick in your xchat?
[00:00] <gardar> yup
[00:01] <gardar> and I see myself marked as away
[00:01] <ompaul> I don't see you marked away
[00:01] <ompaul> maybe you need to rejoin
[00:01] <ompaul>  /part #ubuntu-ops /join #ubuntu-ops
[00:01] <ompaul> or even cycle the client
[00:01] <gardar> that's because when I type, the script marks me as-not away
[00:02] <ompaul> ardar> away
 no not away
 what, didn't you just tell me to go away?
[00:02] <ompaul> in that period of time you did not change colour
[00:02] <gardar> oh
[00:02] <gardar> I'll cycle
[00:02] <gardar> well ok
[00:03] <ompaul> go away wait 5
[00:03] <gardar> I'll go away in 3 seconds, and stay that way for a minute or so
[00:03] <gardar> 3
[00:03] <gardar> 2
[00:03] <gardar> 1
[00:03] <ompaul> no it is not working
[00:03] <gardar> dang
[00:04] <gardar> well at least my nick isn't changed anymore
[00:04] <gardar> *changing
[00:04] <ompaul> there is that
[00:04] <ompaul> however I would ditch the script and work with reality
[00:04] <ompaul> if you are away you are away
[00:04] <ompaul> if you are not you are not
[00:05] <ompaul> and if you are lurking who is to complain
[00:05] <gardar> yeah well I'm so used to pidgin marking me automatically as away
[00:05] <gardar> so when I go afk, I'm not used to type /away
[00:05] <ompaul> so what
[00:05] <ompaul> are you in conversation?
[00:05] <gardar> not always
[00:06] <ompaul> are you in high demand to answer questions and causing disruption
[00:06] <ompaul> when people can't get you?
[00:06] <gardar> yup, sometimes
[00:06] <ompaul> scroll back will help
[00:06] <ompaul> and you can /away without the script and you know it will work
[00:06] <gardar> probably
[00:07] <ompaul> currently you have a broken situation
[00:07] <gardar> the other way was just more handy for me
[00:07] <ompaul>  it is failure in #ubuntu
[00:07] <gardar> seems so
[00:08] <nalioth> how simple is it to JUST UNLOAD THE SCRIPT?
[00:08] <ompaul> rm it
[00:08] <ompaul> mv it
[00:08] <ompaul> restart client
[00:09] <gardar> hm
[00:10] <gardar> im still banned at #ubuntu
[00:10] <ompaul> yeap
[00:10] <ompaul> ok I'll knock that off
[00:10] <gardar> can you fix it?
[00:10] <ompaul> I was elsewhere for a mo
[00:10] <gardar> kk
[00:10] <ompaul> but don't trigger that thing you won't like the response
[00:10] <ompaul> :)
[00:10] <gardar> haha ok
[00:11] <gardar> setting up a bnc soon so I'll be online 24/7
[00:11] <ompaul> try it now
[00:11] <nalioth> a bnc doesn't negate /away status
[00:12] <ompaul> if your nick changes you will be gone
[00:12] <gardar> I know nalioth
[00:12] <ompaul> gardar, the ban is off as far as I can see please try to rejoin
[00:12] <ompaul> ok
[00:12] <gardar> yeah I just joined
[00:13] <gardar> well I guess it's bye on this channel then
[00:13] <ompaul> cheers
[00:13] <gardar> see ya
[00:13] <ompaul> with scripts
[00:13] <gardar> on the other side
[00:13] <ompaul> always try to use them in ........ channels with no one else there
[00:13] <ompaul> to test them ....
[00:14] <ompaul> aooohh well
[00:21] <Flannel> That was far too much difficulty for such a simple matter
[00:22] <Mez> night all
[00:22] <ompaul> heh
[00:49]  * Hobbsee celebrates
[00:54] <bazhang> !wacom
[01:07] <Hobbsee> !tablet
[01:07] <Hobbsee> fail?
[02:18] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow long time no see
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Hiya.
[02:19] <nickrud> Things well? I was wondering if it was just (hopefully) life interfering
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Just trying to get some things done around here.  Working on my notes for nvidia.  ONce people use the driver from nvidia and try to enable effects there are problems.  KNow of any fixes?
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Comic-con was more fun that I would have imagined
[02:20] <nickrud> no, I don't have an nvidia to play with. Looking to purchase a desktop, and will probably go nvidia for that.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> np..  I can get people back to full res, but just not with effects.
[02:21] <nickrud> I've pretty much given up on keeping notes for video. Things change so fast in them, so I'm pretty much limiting myself to ati and google (know most of the good search terms by heart ;)
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> If they have never used the online driver we can get them res and effects, just not after that driver.  I have not seen a soution yet
[02:22] <nickrud> wonder what the log looks like. I've ignored nvidia threads
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> I am trying to write a very long xorg with many options rem'd out so a person could rem out a working section and try something known to work for nvidia 6600 perhaps.
[02:23] <nickrud> gak
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> what is gak
[02:24] <nickrud> sort of an interrupted gag
[02:24] <nickrud> with an overtone of 'oh my god' ;)
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> I have switched the one I have to several different boxes and it made it easy to setup the video.. all were nvidia but mobility and different chipsets
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud 3 or 4 options for monitor screen and device..
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> DO I have too much time on my hands
[02:25] <nickrud> nvidia seems to be getting difficult these days
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> that was my motive for digging deeper
[02:27] <nickrud> my stomach is growling, time to go fix a dinner
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> later..
[02:27] <nickrud> be back later, if you're still around
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> well see
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ah.. you get what I mean
[02:29] <Myrtti> yup yup
[02:29] <Myrtti> fell asleep with the laptop in my lap
[02:30] <Myrtti> time to put it away and really really go to sleep
[02:30] <Myrtti> nini folks
[03:15] <bazhang> hi Jordan_U
[03:16] <Jordan_U> The moment I joined #ubuntu LimpFaefer ( a bot ) private messaged me with some inane BS
[03:17] <Jordan_U> Maybe I should take this to the freenode ops rather than here
[03:21] <nickrud> Jordan_U if the nick that's pm'ing you isn't in #ubuntu namespace, #freenode is faster
[04:29] <bazhang> Maxwell23498
[05:11] <nickrud> Hobbsee you stalking red ;)
[05:12] <Hobbsee> nickrud: no, i just saw what he said in +1
[05:12] <nickrud> ok, chasing him :)
[05:12] <Hobbsee> [14:07] <red> But first I think I'll spring this on #ubuntu and just not mention that it's Ibex.
[05:13] <nickrud> Yes, I looked before I said anything. You suddenly dropping in and saying that (and looking back to see he'd just dropped in) led me there
[05:21] <nickrud> hey bullgard4
[05:22] <bullgard4> [Taylor_Roncancio(n=dood@c-67-165-62-95.hsd1.oh.comcast.net)] is annoying me with a unsolicited blinking private message: " All men should wear bras every day."
[05:22] <nickrud> bullgard4 not in #ubuntu, so #freenode would be the right choice. They have better tools for chasing spammers around the channels
[05:24] <bullgard4> nickrud: Good morning! Thank you for informing. I am hurrying to tell them.
[05:26] <elky_work> the bra dude is a known moron
[05:26] <elky_work> nuke at your own will
[05:27] <elky_work> (directed at our ops)
[05:27] <Pici> hes not in #ubuntu
[05:27] <Pici> s/he/it/
[05:27] <nickrud> I used to get his spam, but not anymore. I don't get any pm spam. elky_work how do I make sure I'm receiving pm's from unregistered? I think I am, but would like to be sure
[05:27] <Pici> nickrud: umode +E
[05:27] <elky_work> if you spot them in ubuntu channels, preemptively move him to elsewhere
[05:28] <nickrud> Pici does that persist between sessions, or do I need to add it to my config?
[05:28] <Pici> nickrud: you usually need to add it to your config
[05:28] <nickrud> Pici thanks
[05:28] <Pici> irssi has a setting for it, but I forget what it is
[05:29] <elky_work> it'd be darn nice if we didnt have to keep resetting our modes each time we join
[05:29] <elky_work> you'd think someone would think of umode persistance by now
[05:29] <Pici> /set usermode in irssi
[05:30] <elky_work> im referring to serverside
[05:30] <Pici> Yeah, that would be nice too
[05:32] <elky_work> like, how old is irc now?
[05:38] <Flannel> three.
[05:45] <nickrud> Pici good thing I did some checking, I wanted -E ;)
[05:48] <Flannel> Wow... someone's lonely.
[05:48] <elky_work> hmm?
[05:48] <Flannel> #ubuntu someone spamming to play games on yahoo
[05:51] <nickrud> FunnyLookinHat, one of my all time favorite nicks
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud I had a conversation with a guy at comicon that insisted that Jack_Sparrow on Ubuntu-irc was a bot..
[05:59] <stdin> !scope > rockenrola
[06:00] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow hah. What was the result of the conversation?
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> He still thinks I am a bot..
[06:00] <nickrud> gotta meet you. Look for that join line at the neck
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[07:20] <Myrtti> can I put someone on ignore?
[07:20] <Myrtti> is it horribly wrong?
[07:21] <Myrtti> please, say no
[07:21] <Myrtti> "yes, you can put him on ignore, no it's not horribly wrong"
[07:21] <Flannel> Myrtti: no, I'll keep an eye on him
[07:22] <Flannel> So, that'd be a "yes, no"
[07:22] <Myrtti> he's been wrecking my nerves for the past month and more
[07:22] <Myrtti> I've got a horrible kick itch on my finger
[07:23] <Myrtti> /ignore -replies $nick PUBLIC
[07:23] <Myrtti> AH, the silence
[07:25] <mohi> hey
[07:26] <Flannel> How can we help you mohi?
[07:26] <mohi> ubottu left our channel (#ubuntu-ir) last night!
[07:26] <elky_work> Myrtti, who?
[07:27] <Flannel> elky_work: ASUS
[07:27] <Myrtti> elky_work: the person who abuses the letter u
[07:27] <mohi> is anything wrong with ubottu?
[07:27] <elky_work> Myrtti, which person who abuses the letter 'u'
[07:28] <Myrtti> ^
[07:28] <elky_work> mohi, nope, he probably just got confused about where he needed to go
[07:28] <Myrtti> or the other option is that we're working on distributing the load on the bots more evenly
[07:28] <elky_work> s/he/she/
[07:28] <Gary> is the bot female then?
[07:29] <mohi> elky_work: does he make up his mind? any chance for Persian friend in #ubuntu-ir ? ;)
[07:29] <Myrtti> so perhaps you could get ubot5 or ubot3` to your channel
[07:29] <Myrtti> Gary: yes
[07:29] <mohi> oh! :D s/he/he-or-she
[07:29] <elky_work> Myrtti, i dont think it matters which
[07:29] <Gary> can I make a really bad joke?
[07:29] <elky_work> Gary, no
[07:29] <Myrtti> Gary: only in my PM with the risk of being poked
[07:29] <mohi> s/friend/friends
[07:29] <Gary> aww, it was not *that* bad
[07:29] <elky_work> unless it's just about fembots?
[07:29] <Myrtti> with the Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[07:30] <elky_work> Myrtti, i saw you and sabdfl in the logs, so funny
[07:30] <elky_work> both times
[07:30] <Myrtti> elky_work: :->
[07:30] <elky_work> he wants a pink fluffy pen of poking, just like yours!
[07:31] <Myrtti> was thinking of sending him mine, since I've got to methods of poking now
[07:31] <elky_work> hehe
[07:32] <Myrtti> purchased the British Correctional Learning Tool™ before leaving UK
[07:32] <elky_work> haha
[07:32] <Flannel> a switch?
[07:32] <Flannel> or, a ruler?
[07:32] <Gary> whats that then?
[07:32] <Gary> or a cane?
[07:32] <elky_work> the cane
[07:32] <Myrtti> huge pencil with eraser on the other end
[07:32] <elky_work> o.O
[07:33] <Flannel> right, a switch
[07:33] <Gary> oh, the huge ones, like half a meter long?
[07:36] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2737231443/
[07:37] <Myrtti> need to recharge my phone...
[07:39] <Gary> I was using my mobile on 3g last night via bluetooth to my laptop till the battery died, it was fully charged, talk about using a lot of power
[07:39] <mohi> :S who can send ubottu in #ubuntu-ir please?
[07:40] <Myrtti> nalioth: poke
[07:40] <Myrtti> jussi01: nudge
[07:41] <Myrtti> technically I could send ubottu to #ubuntu-ir
[07:41] <Myrtti> but I'd rather ask the owner of the bot is there a specific reason it didn't before doing it
[07:41] <Myrtti> as I suspect there is
[07:44] <mohi> ah! ok. sure. :)
[07:51] <mohi> BTW, locobot_5 has not loged anything after 2nd of Aug
[07:56] <Myrtti> mohi: yes, we know
[07:57] <mohi> :)
[07:58] <stdin> Myrtti: ubottu kept flooding off when joining because it was syncing ~50 channels, so some LoCo's got cut
[08:00] <Myrtti> stdin: do we have any plans yet to distribute the load?
[08:00]  * Myrtti considers launching ubott2
[08:00] <bazhang> asus in ot posting some questionable stuff
[08:00] <Flannel> Its... kosher.
[08:00] <stdin> "plans", no. just the vague idea floating about
[08:00] <Flannel> although, I was watching half hoping it wouldn't be.
[08:01] <Myrtti> Flannel: I trust your judgement
[08:01] <Myrtti> Flannel: say shoot, and he'll fly
[08:01] <Flannel> I mean, its not really tasteful, but its not illegal
[08:01] <Flannel> hmm, not tasteful, but.. intelligent
[08:02]  * Flannel lerns his wurds.
[08:02] <Myrtti> awwww
[08:02] <bazhang> the new standard is outright criminality?
[08:02] <Flannel> bazhang: illegal in the channel sense.
[08:02] <bazhang> seems the coc was amended without my noticing
[08:03] <Flannel> bazhang: There's nothing offensive about that... It's completely stupid, but not banned
[08:04] <bazhang> I guess I need to read !guidelines and !coc again.
[08:04] <Myrtti> stupidity is discouraged, but not banishable
[08:04] <Myrtti> punishable, even
[08:04] <Flannel> I'd tell my kids they couldn't watch it, because I don't want them to be idiots, but someone elses kids...
[08:08] <bazhang> not the point.
[08:08] <bazhang> standards are standards, in all ubuntu-related areas.
[08:09] <Flannel> bazhang: What about that video do you think is against the guidelines?
[08:11] <bazhang> Did we watch the same video?
[08:12] <Flannel> the one with the dog?
[08:12] <Flannel> bazhang: Have you ever had a dog?
[08:13] <bazhang> Flannel, that is not at issue here, and beside the point (btw yes I have).
[08:13] <Flannel> bazhang: It is part of the issue.  Dogs do that, sometimes all the time.
[08:14] <Flannel> but again, what do you see as offensive about said video?
[08:14] <bazhang> not to that degree, and not in that manner.
[08:15] <Flannel> Alright, so, we call !coc on the dog... and kick him out of the channel.  That's not really what we're talking about though.
[08:16] <bazhang> it's the whole carelessness towards others and the rules that is at issue here, really.
[08:16] <Flannel> toilet humor, for the most part, isn't against the channel guidelines.  It's crude and I wish it didn't happen, but sometimes it does.
[08:17] <bazhang> not a single video post.
[08:18] <Flannel> He's a little reckless, yes, but not breaking any rules.  Probably a good candidate to do so in the future, but not that I saw currently.
[08:18] <Flannel> I wasn't breathing down his neck, so I might've missed something though.
[08:33] <Myrtti> oh wow
[08:33] <Myrtti> I just found a pizza in my microwave oven
[08:33] <Myrtti> I wonder how long it has been there
[08:34] <Myrtti> nice and dry... nomnomnom
[08:34] <Flannel> in your microwave?  wow.
[08:34] <Myrtti> well it is a combi thing
[08:34] <Myrtti> with grill
[08:34] <Flannel> Ah. So, someone else's pizza
[08:35] <Flannel> No
[08:35] <Myrtti> no, mine
[08:35] <Flannel> yours
[08:35] <Myrtti> quite tasty
[08:35] <Flannel> combination microwave-something, not like... communal microwave
[08:35] <Myrtti> dry and hard, but still has the nice pizzaish flavor
[08:35] <Flannel> which, would be interesting.
[08:35] <Flannel> Myrtti: So, how long has it been since you've microwaved something? (obviously that something would be said pizza)
[08:36] <Myrtti> way more than a week
[08:37] <Myrtti> well, time to get my microwaved espresso
[08:37] <Flannel> Myrtti: Well, you'll get your penicillin one way or another I guess.
[08:38] <Myrtti> well the grill heating system dries the pizza pretty well in the first place
[08:38] <Myrtti> doesn't leave pizzas soggy and soft
[08:38] <Myrtti> and this one doesn't have mildue on it - so
[08:39] <Myrtti> nom - coffee
[08:55] <Myrtti> oh lol
[08:58] <bazhang> what's up with mu3en
[09:03] <Flannel> Where?
[09:04] <bazhang> in kubuntu
[09:05] <bazhang> weird.
[09:21] <jussi01> jpds: nudge
[09:22] <bazhang> seems offensive to me.
[09:22] <Myrtti> I find the discussion at -irc hilarious
[09:23] <Myrtti> at it's current form atleast
[09:25] <Myrtti> should I mention my own gender? opinions?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> what is it?
[09:26] <Myrtti> this is so funny
[09:27] <bazhang> addressing females in ubuntu space seems questionable at best, given it was a new user and new to irc.
[09:27] <Myrtti> apparently pressenter banned the other guy because the other commented that a girl did pole dancing
[09:27] <Myrtti> which to me is hilarious
[09:27] <Myrtti> as the channel in question is #ubuntu-pl
[09:27] <Myrtti> so ... basically ROFL
[09:28] <Myrtti> they're all pole dancers
[09:28] <Myrtti> I'm sorry, am tired
[09:28] <Myrtti> that is so damned funny!
[09:28] <bazhang> ugh
[09:28] <bazhang> terrible pun
[09:28] <Myrtti> I know
[09:28] <Myrtti> yet I can't stop giggling at it
[09:28] <Myrtti> oy, my sides hurt
[09:28] <bazhang> polska likely is not pole as in the dancing one
[09:29] <Myrtti> yeah
[09:29]  * bazhang tries to remember his Russian
[09:31]  * Myrtti tries to get back to work
[09:34]  * mohi wishes ubottu for #ubuntu-ir
[09:34] <mohi> good luck and thanks
[09:36] <Myrtti> oh, it was ir
[09:39] <jpds> jussi01: poke.
[09:45] <stdin> jpds: I think he wanted to ask you about putting ubot5 in #ubuntu-ir
[09:46]  * stdin looks at -ircbots-team and looks silly
[09:46]  * jpds hugs stdin
[11:53]  * Myrtti larts herself with ##politics
[11:55] <nalioth> Myrtti: trying out new hip waders?
[11:56] <Dave2> o_O
[11:57] <Myrtti> I just read in the news that GWB is planning to plan some contraceptive methods because he and his administration believes human life starts on the moment of contraception and thus methods that prevent the tsygote from attaching to the lining of the uterus are methods of abortion, not contraceptives
[11:58] <Myrtti> please feel free to assure me not everyone in US government are idiots.
[11:59] <Myrtti> s/plan/ban/
[11:59]  * Myrtti goes to rant in ##politics
[12:01] <nalioth> Myrtti: you are aware it's no longer the civil version of #politics, right?
[12:01] <Myrtti> whatever
[12:01] <Myrtti> I just need to place to vent :-D
[12:03] <nalioth> go for it
[12:03]  * Mez sighs
[12:04] <Mez> my phone isnt working
[12:04] <Dave2> a
[12:08] <nalioth>  /me calls Myrttis grandmother for an emergency cavy shipment . . . ( i think Myrtti may need them after wading around in the ##politics cesspool )
[12:09] <Myrtti> nalioth: oh, you mean guineapigses grandmother ;-)
[12:09] <Myrtti> (my granmas have passed away years ago)
[12:09] <nalioth> whichever granny they're staying with   :)
[12:09] <Myrtti> their granny :-P
[12:09] <Myrtti> ie. my mom
[12:20] <Pici> #politics was civil?
[12:21] <nalioth> Pici: when #politics was open, ##politics was the civil political discussion channel
[12:21] <Pici> nalioth: ah, I misread, nevermind.
[12:22] <Myrtti> i see its a cesspool alright now
[12:22] <Myrtti> mmm donuts
[12:22] <nalioth> yes, #politics was closed and all the sewage flowed into ##politics
[12:22] <nalioth> ##political-discussion is probably the channel you wanted to visit, Myrtti
[12:23] <nalioth> as you see in ##politics, they are simply beyond reprehensible
[12:23] <Pici> Theres no way to banforward these people to another network?
[12:24] <Myrtti> mmm wonderful idea for developing the k-train
[12:25] <nalioth> Pici: we could only wish
[12:28] <nalioth> Myrtti: so long as they keep their filth in ##politics, they're safe.
[12:29] <Myrtti> on related news http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d
[12:38] <bazhang> that the paris video?
[12:39] <Myrtti> yup
[12:40] <bazhang> that was hilarious
[12:53] <ikonia> just watched it, quite ammusing
[12:53] <ikonia> I wonder how many takes she needed to do that
[12:53] <bazhang> just the one I bet.
[12:56] <Myrtti> I bet she is as smart, most probably smarter than me and the blonde is just a public imagte
[12:56] <Myrtti> image, even
[12:56] <Myrtti> like my pinkness
[12:56] <bazhang> smarter than the one she mocked for instance.
[12:57] <Myrtti> most probably
[12:57] <bazhang> may as well change ot into #poor-impulse-control
[13:00] <bazhang> cf zaapiel and asus
[13:01] <Myrtti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ :-P
[13:03]  * Myrtti hides
[13:06] <bazhang> he went too soon.
[13:07] <Myrtti> oh yeah, on related news
[13:09] <Myrtti> the Midsummer bonfire of the President of Finland is burnt today due to the family of seagulls leaving the small rock they had their nest on
[13:10] <Myrtti> the bonfire was postponed by nearly two months
[13:10] <bazhang> hehe
[13:10] <elky> aww how sweet. you waited for the birdies to go and everything :Þ
[13:10] <Myrtti> yeah ♥
[13:11] <bazhang> got a live one in #ubuntu
[13:13] <elky> i've pounced on those channel names
[13:18] <elky> awwww, all the staffers seem to be /away :(
[13:18] <elky> i was going to ask how the heck to forward channels
[13:18] <Mez> elky, poke Dave2 - he's usually around at work - but set as away
[13:19] <elky> Mez, i was going to harrass an in-house staffer, not an external one
[13:19] <Dave2> moed +if #chanensl
[13:19] <Mez> elky, ?
[13:19] <Dave2> except typed by soemoene who isn't trying hardf to not fall asleep
[13:19] <Mez> elky, see, Dave2 rocks ;)
[13:19] <elky> Dave2, i fail that then
[13:19]  * Mez hands Dave2 some pro plus and a couple of cans of relentless
[13:20] <Myrtti> Dave2: are you also one of those who get violently ill with coffee?
[13:20] <Dave2> elky: ear in mind that if you're on the +I list you won't be affected
[13:20] <Mez> Dave2, ear in mind? that's gotta hurt
[13:21] <Dave2> also the channel msut exist to be able to forward to it
[13:21] <elky> question 2, Dave2, what's the generic network trashpit channel? ##unavailable?
[13:21] <Mez> let me just listen to your frontal lobe...
[13:21] <Mez> elky, ##politics :D
[13:21] <elky> Mez, not scumpit
[13:21] <Dave2> i think so, i'd double check with someone else firswt though
[13:21] <Mez> elky, oh, #ubuntu-offtopic then
[13:21] <elky> Mez, ha ha.
[13:22] <elky> i am so not forwarding #ubuntu-swear to there
[13:22] <Mez> :)
[13:22] <elky> right, someone wanna test -wtf and -swear
[13:23] <Mez> swear worked, wtf didnt
[13:23] <Myrtti> oy
[13:27] <elky> what did i do then :(
[13:27] <elky> oooh, i knwo
[13:27] <elky> i parted and rejoined there... but i never registered it
[13:27] <elky> whups
[13:31] <bazhang> tried to tab complete mornin<tab>
[13:32] <bazhang> clearly time for dinner :)
[13:35] <nalioth> elky: ##unavailable is where we point all off topic channels.  forwarding to ##politics might be grounds for heavy punishment  :P
[13:35] <elky> nalioth, didnt do so
[13:35] <Myrtti> CAPITAL punishment
[13:35] <Myrtti> :-P
[13:35] <elky> right, now im not being distracted, register time...
[13:36] <Pici> Myrtti: wouldn't that be PUNISHMENT?
[13:36] <elky> nalioth, unless you want to do the honors since i'd have to spend the next few hours searching for the council nick password
[14:00] <Pici> Myrtti: May I ask what that was for? I dont see anything in my lastlog for that address.
[14:00] <Myrtti> preventive banforward
[14:00] <Myrtti> he popped in to -women, pasted a referrer link junk, parted
[14:01] <Pici> Ah.
[14:37] <Myrtti> bwain impwores! bwain impwores! HALP HALP
[14:39]  * Myrtti cries
[14:40] <Pici> is this about knokorer?
[14:41] <Myrtti> I wish
[14:51]  * Myrtti bangs her head on wall
[14:57] <Myrtti> I need another kind of !prayer
[14:58] <ikonia> living on a prayer ?
[15:07]  * Myrtti notes her ignore is leaking as the fool changed his nick
[15:42] <jpds> Have to love that power lead.
[15:42] <Myrtti> did all ipv6 servers netsplit?
[15:43] <ikonia> does anyone know timberwold ? as in the user
[15:45] <Myrtti> mmmmm bliss...
[15:46] <Pici> timberwold?
[15:47] <ikonia> not to worry, he's not in this channel
[15:47] <ikonia> I got a PM, thought it was someone from #ubuntu but it wasn't
[15:47] <bazhang> dont see him
[15:47] <ikonia> nah, he's not in ubuntu
[15:47] <bazhang> aha
[15:47] <ikonia> looks like he's logged off too
[15:57] <Mez> w00 - lovely spam "download the latest internet explorer" - linking to a dialer disguised as a porn video...
[15:58] <Myrtti> do you get those very often?
[15:58] <Myrtti> I get lots of cialis and viagra ads.
[15:58] <Myrtti> they're nice.
[16:04] <Pici> fyi; 11:02:45 <agy> I have placed wiki.ubuntu.com in read-only mode. Maintenance should take approximately 90 minutes to complete.
[16:12]  * Myrtti sighs
[16:28] <jpds> Does anyone know how I can change Alt-<Arrow key> so it doesn't change the tty?
[16:29]  * Myrtti squeals http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041961/Winning-whisker-Will-athletes-match-Olym-pig-sporting-stars.html
[16:29]  * Dave2 goes "ARGH" at "dailymail.co.uk"
[16:30] <Myrtti> GUINEA PIGSES
[16:30] <Myrtti> pigseeeehhh
[16:30] <Pici> :O
[16:31] <Myrtti> PIGSEH!
[16:42] <Pici> odd
[16:49] <Myrtti> wb jussi01
[16:49] <jussi01> mrgh
[16:50] <jussi01> thanks Myrtti
[16:50] <jussi01> stupid client
[16:50] <Myrtti> jussi01: you ate the grumble cookie?
[16:50] <jussi01> no, I ate about 6
[16:50]  * Myrtti gives jussi01 and Tuhina a plate full of lactoseless milk
[16:50] <Myrtti> jussi01: lol
[16:50] <Myrtti> GRUMBLE cookie
[16:50] <Myrtti> jussi01: ärrinmurrinpipari
[16:51] <jussi01> someone pacifiy me with a jaiku plasmoid
[16:51] <jussi01> and a terminal one
[16:51] <Myrtti> poke someone to compile you the jaikucmdline from haskell
[16:51] <Myrtti> I couldn't do it
[16:52] <Myrtti> something about old ghc
[16:54]  * Myrtti sighs
[16:56] <Myrtti> just so you know, I've got<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and all replies to him on ignore on -offtopic
[16:56] <Myrtti> I just couldn't take it anymore
[17:29] <seisen> anybody from the IRC council available right now or in a few.....
[17:30] <jussi01> seisen: Im not IRC council - but I am an op in many places - can I help with something?
[17:30] <Pici> seisen: Is it something that the rest of us can help you with, or do you specifically need a council member?
[17:32] <seisen> I need somebody from the IRC council
[17:32]  * Myrtti raises an eyebrow
[17:32] <Myrtti> elky, PriceChild, nalioth *poit*
[17:33]  * jussi01 raises 2 eyebrows
[17:33]  * Seeker` sees jussi01's 2 eyebrows and raises 4 eyebrows
[17:33] <ikonia> call
[17:33] <jussi01> rofl
[17:34] <jussi01> Im out - only got 2
[17:44]  * Myrtti shrugs
[17:45] <jussi01> heh... right...
[17:47] <bazhang> seisen, how may we help you
[17:47] <jussi01> bazhang: read up...
[17:48] <bazhang> why ask in here?
[17:49] <Myrtti> is there a better place?
[17:49] <jussi01> bazhang: cause this is the place to ask?
[17:49] <bazhang> curiouser and curiouser
[17:49] <seisen> should I just send an email to irc council mailing list?
[17:50] <jussi01> seisen: that is a good way to get to them, yes - if it isnt urgent
[17:50] <Myrtti> well that might be one way to contact the council
[17:50] <bazhang> seisen, you are of course welcome to wait if it is urgent
[17:51] <seisen> its not really urgent
[17:51] <seisen> I just didn't know which route would be easier
[17:52] <jussi01> seisen: I ask once again - are you certain none of us can help you with it?
[17:52] <seisen> yes, its about my cloak that I lost, only the irc council can give it back to me
[18:00] <bazhang> hi Paddy_EIRE
[18:00] <Paddy_EIRE> hey man
[18:01] <Paddy_EIRE> brb... gotta get smokes
[18:03] <jussi01> !fud is Please do not fall prey to or spread FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
[18:03] <jussi01> !fud
[18:03] <Myrtti> missing a comma
[18:04] <jussi01> !no fud is <reply>Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
[18:04] <Myrtti> !fud ~= /fear uncertainity/fear, uncertainity/
[18:04] <jussi01> that doiesnt seem right
[18:05] <Myrtti> !fud ~= /fear uncertainty/fear, uncertainty/
[18:05] <jussi01> !fud
[18:09] <Myrtti> now I totally forgot what I was doing
[18:11] <Myrtti> right.
[18:16] <seisen> I gotta go so I will just send an email to the mailing list, thanks anyway
[19:24]  * ompaul looks about and pokes mr mneptok
[19:24] <ompaul> long lag stuff
[19:26]  * Myrtti pokes ompaul
[19:26] <ompaul> my Myrtti
[19:26] <ompaul> hi Myrtti
[19:27] <Myrtti> :-)
[19:31] <jussio1> Myrtti: http://imagebin.ca/view/S2_1tLj.html
[19:32] <Myrtti> button nose
[19:32] <jussio1> :D
[19:32] <Flannel> That echidna is eyes that graphics card rather hungrily.
[19:33] <jussio1> its a Hedgehog...
[19:33] <Flannel> mmm, thats a hdegehog isnt it
[19:33] <Flannel> yes.
[19:33] <Flannel> well, the tasty graphics card still stands.
[19:33] <jussio1> hehe
[19:33] <Flannel> better watch your PCBs carefully.
[19:34] <jussio1> Flannel: I was more thinking Hedgie vs mouse :D
[19:35] <PriceChild> jussio1: stdin: Caught up on -meeting earlier... did either of you take a look at ubottu's time wrt the fridge schedule?
[19:36] <Flannel> PriceChild: I think I heard it was taken care of...
[19:36] <Flannel> I might've made it up though
[19:37] <PriceChild> jussi01: ^ (incase you've suddenly switched clients)
[19:37] <PriceChild> Flannel: ah cool, no harm in checking though.
[19:37] <jussio1> PriceChild: yeah - im just going to read the log
[19:38] <PriceChild> jussio1: yeah you fixed it, or yeah, you're going to take a look at it?
[19:38] <PriceChild> Basically, fridge is correct, but ubottu is an hour late.
[19:38] <jussio1> PriceChild: as in, havent read log yet
[19:39] <PriceChild> Ah ok, well the above is all you need 8-).
[19:39] <PriceChild> Thanks!
[19:40] <jussio1> PriceChild: no probs - will look into it.
[20:53] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, I didn't see him
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Sure..
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[21:22] <jpds> stdin: Can you please commit ubottu's lastest changes to LP (the > please see message thing), so I can bzr pull them? Cheers.
[22:02] <ikonia> ompaul: they are all coming in from arch to troll
[22:02] <ikonia> I've got one in pm
[22:02] <ompaul> ack
[22:04] <ikonia> ok - so the whole of archlinux-offtopic are discussing how to troll the #ubuntu channel
[22:04] <ikonia> trying to get hold of an opper in #archlinux-offtopic
[22:05] <ompaul> !staff ^^ what do you make of that
[22:05]  * PriceChild pon
[22:05] <PriceChild> ders whether to join
[22:06] <ikonia> PriceChild: please do - they think it's funny
[22:06] <ikonia> I'm taking a kicking
[22:06] <ompaul> PriceChild, I think you are obligated :)
[22:06] <ikonia> no ops awake so they think they can do what they want
[22:06] <PriceChild> they're trolling #ubuntu?
[22:06] <ompaul> yeap
[22:06] <ompaul> we have had two so far
[22:07] <ompaul> bavardage sykopomp so far
[22:07] <ikonia> there is another lurking
[22:07] <ikonia> he was discussing what to do
[22:07] <ompaul> and I am ready for him
[22:07] <ompaul>   / her
[22:07] <ikonia> him
[22:07] <jussi01> yay for bot fights... hehe
[22:08] <ikonia> PriceChild: your entrance appears to have changed the tone of that room
[22:08] <ikonia> funny
[22:09] <ompaul> strange how that works
[22:09] <ompaul> PriceChild, ;-)
[22:09] <ikonia> skypoops was Mr Big about it before a staff cloak entered
[22:09] <ikonia> "ooh I'm so scared of freenode" etc etc "scrared of our ops etc etc"
[22:09] <ikonia> now he's nice as pie, how odd
[22:10] <ikonia> ooh now he's be-littleing PriceChild's freenode poisition,
[22:10] <ikonia> he has grone balls again
[22:14] <ompaul> if you are going to be a troll don't be a stupid one
[22:14] <ompaul> arrrrr
[22:14] <ompaul> and if none of the rest of ye picked up on that shame on ye ;-)
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> arrrrrgh
[22:15] <ompaul> note the ;-)
[22:15] <ompaul> that was a special one :)
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Just got back to the channel.. miss anything fun
[22:16] <ompaul> not really a couple of wannabes
[22:17] <ompaul> wannabeoutahere
[22:17] <ompaul> that kind
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> We got to meet the actors from torchwood.  the head guy is kinda cool, talked to him for half an hour
[22:18] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: torchwood is uk based ?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[22:18] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: I thought you where stateside
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> I am
[22:19] <ompaul> implication they are on tour?
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Comic-con in San Diego
[22:19] <ikonia> ah
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> He was just sitting signing autographs only three people there the whole time.
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> three chatting with him, but were waiting to get autographs of others
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> No signs no banners, just sitting at a desk in one of the booths
[22:23] <tonyyarusso> I wonder if we have UDS stats to go alongside this - http://www.leftmind.net/random/linuxbloat.jpg
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> tonyyarusso that is wrong on so many levels
[22:39] <tonyyarusso> such as?
[22:41] <ompaul> this one?
[22:41]  * ompaul grins
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tonyyarusso I wear xxl - xl    xx large, x - long
[22:44]  * tonyyarusso is halfway between small and medium for most
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Messing up our data eh
[23:13] <soundray> That link behind the dualhead factoid is terribly unhelpful for Ubuntu
[23:14] <soundray> I'd write a wiki page if I could wrap my head around xrandr, xinerama, twinview and everything...
[23:15] <soundray> But having no factoid is better than having this one
[23:15] <soundray> !dualhead
[23:22] <Myrtti> good night everyone
[23:24] <ompaul> night Myrtti


[00:56] <VolUTFan> ScottK: Check reply to 1427482 when you get a min
[00:57] <VolUTFan> ScottK: Just getting back with you about your question in the Bug
[01:09]  * ahoneybun just got the remove upstart update
[01:20] <VolUTFan> valorie: what are we having for dinner :)
[01:58] <prth> Riddell, could you please provide me feedback on the patches I sent for bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1429461 &  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1350855 if you get time.
[01:58] <prth> Riddell, btw that tutorial you suggested helped me a lot to setup my hacking environment
[02:23] <ahoneybun> prth: I have no idea if the patches work but thanks either way
[02:23] <ahoneybun> :)
[02:23] <prth> ahoneybun, welcome :)
[02:24] <ahoneybun> prth: have any ideas about this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 ?
[02:24] <prth> ahoneybun, it was a great experience hacking on an installer
[02:25] <prth> ahoneybun, sure, i'll look into it. thanks
[02:28] <ahoneybun> I got though it using fdisk to format the partition into EFI
[02:28] <ahoneybun> thanks prth
[02:31] <prth> ahoneybun,yeah i read your last comment. i suspect it's caused because it fails to detect the efi partition as the partition dict doesn't contain the key `module`
[02:32] <prth> ahoneybun, it was the reason for bug  1429461
[02:37] <ahoneybun> oh cool
[02:37] <ahoneybun> prth: can you open the embedded terminal in dolphin?
[02:41] <ahoneybun> I so want to go to akademy
[02:55] <ahoneybun> valorie: I applied for funds to go to akademy
[07:17] <soee> good morning
[08:59] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:49] <Riddell> hi
[11:49] <Riddell> my head is quite broken today, I'm taking it easy
[11:52] <soee> hiho, did you hit something with your head ? :)
[11:53] <Riddell> something hit me, some years ago, it just randomly goes wonky
[11:53] <soee> :(
[11:56] <KDDA> define wonky
[11:58] <Riddell> craving sugar, out of breath, feels like my metabolism isn't working
[11:59] <Riddell> but it's random every time, could be painful, could be physically fine but unable to think.  fortunately it's pretty rare, today's the first day this year I've had to spend the morning on a sofa
[11:59] <KDDA> get a big bowl of porridge down ya!
[11:59] <Riddell> mm that would hit the spot
[12:06] <kfunk> Riddell: get well soon, dude!
[12:07] <Riddell> ach it happens, I'm probably fine by tomorrow
[12:08] <soee> lets do something simple, create some slogan for vivid :-)
[12:09] <sitter> kubotu: is your trello thread still working?
[12:11] <Riddell> sitter: it was working last night
[12:11] <Riddell> 19:33 -kubotu:#kubuntu-devel- [15.04] New card 'Update kubuntu-docs package' created
[12:12] <sitter> you know, I think the thread actually gets stuck on trello api not responding and the trello gem not having a timeout or something
[12:22]  * sitter moves kubotu to newer gemset
[12:33] <Riddell> prth: sorry not had a chance to look at your patches and I guess I don't have the energy today :(
[12:36] <Riddell> my audio has broken, is this due to hte systemd change or because my laptop is falling apart?
[12:37] <KDDA> Riddell: since when?
[12:38] <KDDA> I upgraded last night and rebooted this morning, and audio seems to be ok with me
[12:39] <Riddell> for a couple of days
[12:39] <Riddell> I need to check with an old kubuntu version, it's probably my latptop
[12:40] <yofel> audio works here too. The last time I had audio issues was when I tried systemd and used a sddm that didn't support it (back when it had the systemd integration disabled)
[12:40] <sitter> kubotu:今日は
[12:40] <Riddell> hmm
[12:40] <sitter> doesn't speak japanese apparently
[12:41] <sitter> kubotu: ping
[12:41] <kubotu> pong
[12:41] <sitter> now if I had started you in a screen...
[12:42] <sitter> how does one know if one is using systemd?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:43] <yofel> sitter: if systemctl status errors out, you're not
[12:44] <BluesKaj> sitter, " ps  -p 1 "
[12:44] <sitter> cheers
[12:44] <sitter> totally systemding
[12:45] <shadeslayer> I'm totally initing
[12:45] <yofel> ^^
[12:45] <BluesKaj> systemd here too, but I don't notice any boot time difference
[12:46] <BluesKaj> from grub to desktop
[12:46] <sitter> why would there be a noticble difference?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> heard stories systemd is faster
[12:46] <BluesKaj> dunno why tho
[12:46] <shadeslayer> I'm totally going to build all of Qt5 on arm this week
[12:47] <Riddell> sitter: have you tested kubuntu ci with systemd? d__ed had problems with the upgrade
[12:47] <sitter> nope I am running pristine vivid
[12:47] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Compared to sysv init perhaps.
[12:47] <sitter> Riddell: if there's a problem that would likely be upstream though
[12:47] <sitter> seeing as ci sddm is integrating master
[12:48] <mparillo> BluesKaj: I agree...if systemd is faster, it is only because you have accurate timings. It was explained to me yesterday that upstart already supported parallel boot processing.
[12:50] <sitter> random speed stories only show how much made up nonesense  is going around about systemd, no wonder people are all polarized about it ^^
[12:51] <lordievader> Hehe. Yeah, lots of people bitch about it without actually trying the stuff.
[12:52] <Riddell> ahoneybun: how did you install kubuntu?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> mparillo, this old pc still takes over a minute to boot to the desktop, but that includes typing the password
[12:59] <shadeslayer> sitter: well, one might see a noticable difference if you had services that were started with init but weren't actually needed till you logged in
[12:59] <shadeslayer> whereas with systemd, those services are fake started
[13:00] <shadeslayer> and have socket activation and what not
[13:01] <yofel> I notice that my tty's start slower than sddm ^^
[13:01] <sitter> shadeslayer: even with upstart they only would cause IO blocking
[13:02] <mparillo> sitter: As I said, the claimed end-user benefit was the speed increase, and I see no obvious advantage over upstart (IIRC, it was ). As far as the comments that systemd is not the 'unix way', or that for those managing hundreds of servers with hand-coded init scripts, that is outside of anything I am competent to opine on.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Can anyone explain Shuttleworth's decision to go with systemd, since there appears to be little benefit and whole lot of controversy ?
[13:35] <KDDA> noone can explain that!
[13:35] <KDDA> why his decision to go with Unity?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, that too
[13:36] <yofel> BluesKaj: mostly to not carry a huge diff to debian, which switched to systemd by default
[13:36] <BluesKaj> ah yeah , it's all debian's fault...wonder what their reasoning is
[13:36] <BluesKaj> yofel,^
[13:37] <yofel> go read up on the several month long CTTE war that went on over the systemd debate. In the end it was a very close call between sytstemd and upstart
[13:37]  * BluesKaj googles
[13:41] <sitter> there's also a push by various upstreams to adopt systemd as a hard or at least very much recommended dependency
[13:47] <sgclark> morning
[13:47] <sgclark> so sitter what happened?
[13:48] <sitter> sgclark: see mails
[13:49] <sgclark> I did and not clear, perhaps I need more than a sip of coffee
[13:51] <sgclark> the script did fail on those few, I was still working on it, got busy with my kde hat..
[13:52] <sitter> sgclark: for all the stuff I listed as rewritten you'll want to run git pull --rebase in the kubuntu_vivid_archive branch and then do a new upload
[13:52] <sgclark> so I have to do this rebase on all these and reupload?
[13:52] <sgclark> oi vei okies
[13:52] <sitter> alternatively you could do git fetch origin && git reset --hard origin/kubuntu_vivid_archive
[13:53] <sitter> strictly speaking that is the more correct approach
[14:14] <BluesKaj> I see we still have rc.d remanants hanging about, receiving this notice after the upgrade this morning "update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults"
[14:15] <BluesKaj> err remnants that is
[16:30] <Riddell> bug 1430426
[16:30] <Riddell> Sho_: any advice on best thing to do with kwallet? is there a way to make it not need a password and use PAM?
[16:31] <Sho_> Riddell: From an exchange I had with afiestas the best way to go is make kwallet5 take on the job of both 4/5 and fix pam support in it
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I leave the password fields blank , but disabling the wallet is my first choice
[16:31] <Sho_> Riddell: He says it's not a lot of work
[16:32] <Sho_> I asked for an ETA and never got a reply after
[16:34] <Riddell> mm, figures
[16:35] <Riddell> bug 1430428 is nasty
[16:36] <Riddell> live cd booting into ubquity-dm now which doesn't transition to a live desktop
[17:07] <Riddell> well after a reinstall audio is now all working
[17:07] <Riddell> very strange
[17:17] <Riddell> weirdest thing, when installing some software (like libudev-dev) it likes to switch vt to show the kubuntu plymouth boot, I have to press F1 to get back to X
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Riddell, yes , but that was on the daily image, right ? I didn't see that on the beta
[17:52] <BluesKaj> older daily image that is
[17:55] <Riddell> BluesKaj: what is?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> Riddell, the switch to the VT to relogin to ubiquity
[18:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: still here?
[18:41] <Riddell> ahoneybun: not really
[18:44] <ahoneybun> Riddell: still need to know how I got kubuntu to install?
[18:54] <Riddell> ahoneybun: hmm, I don't remember why I asked now
[18:55] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yes but daily is newer so that's a problem
[18:55] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ok , so that relogin bug has returned then
[19:12] <BluesKaj> Riddell, it also appears in my installed OS, the relogin bug totally ignores my power settings which I normally just disable if possible on this desktop pc..after about 5 mins of inactivity
[19:13] <BluesKaj> it's become a real PITA
[19:15] <sgclark> BluesKaj: yeah that drives me crazy too, be sure to check settings in Desktop Behavior, yet another screen locking section
[19:16] <sgclark> they really want to lock our screens..
[19:18] <BluesKaj> sgclark, ok , checking
[19:21] <BluesKaj> sgclark, any way to disable screenlocking altogether?
[19:21] <sgclark> if there is I have not figured it out... I set it as high as it would go...
[19:21] <BluesKaj> 99mins
[19:21] <sgclark> seems silly to force it on us
[19:21] <yofel> isn't it just 2 settings? (lock after suspend, lock after time)
[19:22] <yofel> ah that, uh...
[19:22] <yofel> there *should* be a "Never" option
[19:22] <sgclark> yeah
[19:23] <yofel> which is shown if you go down to 0 min
[19:23] <BluesKaj> another unwanted "fearure"
[19:24] <sgclark> omg yofelthanks! lol, that is not "obvious" though..
[19:26] <yofel> right, why go with a text input with drop-down presets which are obvious if you can use a click-through list -.-
[19:27] <ahoneybun> https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma
[19:28] <BluesKaj> yofel, right, thanks "never" isn't easily found
[19:28] <yofel> ahoneybun: hm?
[19:30] <yofel> is it just me or does khelpcenter show "Documentation not Found" for about half the System Settings handbooks?
[19:31] <sgclark> yofel: yeah documentation paths are hard coded in the debhelper rules and I have asked and informed with no results
[19:32] <sgclark> plasma5 has a diff path than kde4 stuff
[19:32] <yofel> okaaay...
[19:32] <sgclark> okaaay?
[19:33] <yofel> yes, but wait, isn't the documentation shipped with the modules now?
[19:33] <yofel> I definitely have a "Keyboard" kcm, but no documentation for it
[19:33] <BluesKaj> i wish plasma 5 would restore the differnt backgrounds for different VDs , I don't know how to configure them in activities ...activities seems so unecessary to me
[19:34] <yofel> I'll agree with that. What irony that *real* displays can actually have different backgrounds
[19:35] <BluesKaj> yeah i really miss it
[19:46] <ahoneybun> yofel: I'm missing a lot too
[19:48] <ahoneybun> so this is version 5.2 of the khelpcenter/
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> jose: ping
[19:52] <ahoneybun> sgclark: how does one edit deps for a package?
[19:53] <yofel> ahoneybun: see Depends: field in debian/control for that binary
[19:57] <ahoneybun> yofel: I'm trying to run the export sh that builds the docs but I'm missing svn and advpng
[19:58] <yofel> ah, then it's missing deps on subversion and advancecomp
[19:58] <ahoneybun> oh that is the packages
[19:58] <yofel> dpkg -S <file> or apt-file find <file> will tell you the package
[20:00] <ahoneybun> yofel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10576500/
[20:02] <yofel> o.O
[20:02] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:03] <ahoneybun> yofel: reason I asked about the deps is that kubuntu-docs currently will download khelpcenter4
[20:03] <yofel> hm, If I run ./export.sh from the archive package, it just hangs..
[20:04] <ahoneybun> did you clone it from here: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fsitter%2Fkubuntu-docs.git?
[20:04] <yofel> ah yeah, that should be khelpcenter. But then you also need to make sure that khelpcenter 5 can find them
[20:05] <yofel> no, I did apt-get source as that was my best guess :P
[20:05] <yofel> ah, now it failed
[20:06] <ahoneybun> khelpcenter is now version5
[20:06] <yofel> yes, but that also uses different lookup paths I believe, sgclark knows more about that
[20:07] <ahoneybun> yofel: so keep khelpcenter4 and add khelpcenter5 sgclark ?
[20:08] <yofel> no, helpcenter4 is a transitional package for khelpcenter in vivid
[20:08] <yofel> there is no khelpcenter 4 anymore
[20:09] <yofel> (theoretically that means that the dep isn't completely broken because you end up with the right app in the end)
[20:11] <sgclark> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340508
[20:14] <yofel> hm, there is no keyboard documentation, so why does khelpcenter show it at all o.O
[20:19] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: take a look: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> can you make it bigger?
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> it's a bit fuzzy
[20:22] <yofel> duh
[20:23] <yofel> ahoneybun: the documentation moved
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The document has moved here.

[20:23] <yofel> that's not a file that wiki2docbook.py can parse ^^
[20:25] <yofel> ahoneybun: replace http with https and try agian
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> where can I find the KF5 icons?
[20:29] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: breeze tar at http://download.kde.org/stable/plasma/5.2.1/
[20:29] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ooh fancy
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the icons on the bottom need fixing
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> and the content of the main pages
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> I'll do as much as I can this evening
[20:42] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin++ :)
[20:44] <BluesKaj> well, think I'll sign opff for another day , maybe tomorrow will be more positive ..laters
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> I'm trying to find replacement icons for the 4 main ones on the homepage
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> can someone please help me?
[20:52] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: the "Get Kubuntu Take the feature tour" ones?
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[20:52] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: looking for different ones to use
[20:52] <ahoneybun> ?
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: Plasma5 / Breeze ones
[20:53] <ahoneybun> oh ok not sure let me look
[20:55] <ahoneybun>  /usr/share/icons/breeze ovidiu-florin ?
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: http://download.kde.org/stable/plasma/5.2.1/
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> the breeze archive
[20:57] <ahoneybun> yofel: http where?
[20:58] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: still downloading
[20:58] <yofel> ahoneybun: in export.sh
[20:58] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: take a look: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[20:58] <yofel> ahoneybun: line 55
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> at feature tour
[21:04] <ahoneybun> sweet
[21:06] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/?
[21:06] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: look at the homepage
[21:07] <ahoneybun> it looks nice
[21:07] <ahoneybun> just a bit jumbled
[21:09] <ahoneybun> I want a tshirt lol
[21:09] <ahoneybun> yofel: looks like it is hanging
[21:09] <yofel> no, it's just not printing anything...
[21:09] <yofel> here its running fine now (might take an ~hour or so)
[21:10] <ahoneybun> oh is there a option to add to it to show process yofel?
[21:10] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: still not sure what your trying to show me sorry
[21:11] <yofel> it does show which language it's at
[21:11] <ahoneybun> yea ture
[21:11] <ahoneybun> *true
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: the 4 icons below the header
[21:11] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I think somethings need to be remove (mostly those old old screenshots
[21:11] <yofel> you could add "set -x" at the top I guess, that'll print each script line when it's executed
[21:12] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I see the new pretty plasma 5 icons
[21:12] <ovidiu-florin> then you saw what I've shown you
[21:12] <ahoneybun> I also see the old ones too
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: where???
[21:25] <ahoneybun> under the new ones ovidiu-florin
[21:25] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ah, that's the page content
[21:25] <ovidiu-florin> that will be changed
[21:26] <ahoneybun> under the 14.10 banner
[21:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: if you need a bigger banner let me know the size
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can it be SVG?
[21:26] <ahoneybun> yofel: ovidiu-florin Riddell are you going to Akademy?
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I'm planning to
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: Can I give a short call?
[21:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: never have made a svg
[21:26] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: no busy
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> ah 1600px by 500px
[21:28] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ok free now
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: also the images at the bottom I need in 232px * 101px
[21:28] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yep, are you coming?
[21:28] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I sent a request for funds for the trip to Ubuntu (no idea if they will accept)
[21:29] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: those are being pulled from the recent posts right?
[21:34] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I really hope they let me
[21:34] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lovely
[21:35]  * ahoneybun needs a passport though
[21:37] <ovidiu-florin> seaLne: ping
[21:37] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: the ones at the bottom, no
[21:46] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: is 1000 by 1500 big enough?
[21:46] <ovidiu-florin> for which one?
[21:46] <ahoneybun> the banner on the top
[21:46] <ovidiu-florin> 1600 x 500
[21:47] <ahoneybun> damn
[21:47] <ahoneybun> ok
[21:50] <rww> Riddell: If you're available, #kubuntu-offtopic could do with some attention. GeronimoStilton apparently thinks eugenics is on-topic for it.
[21:51] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://imgur.com/a/yUZul#1
[21:58] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: does that work?
[21:59] <Riddell> umm dunno who has ops there
[21:59] <Riddell> Tm_T: ?
[21:59] <rww> Riddell: You do.
[21:59] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[21:59] <rww> thanks :)
[22:00] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ignore the content
[22:00] <ovidiu-florin> I think there's a bug in the theme
[22:01] <jose> ovidiu-florin: pong
[22:01] <ovidiu-florin> jose: take a look at http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[22:01]  * jose checks
[22:03] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: awesome :)
[22:04] <ovidiu-florin> jose: we need a plugin that allows us to not have a sidebar on certain pages
[22:04] <ovidiu-florin> do you have time to look for it?
[22:04] <ovidiu-florin> I have to leave now
[22:04] <jose> ovidiu-florin: what about the *other* way round?
[22:04] <ovidiu-florin> thank you ahoneybun
[22:04] <jose> probably. I may have some time in a while.
[22:05] <ovidiu-florin> the images are awesome
[22:06] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[22:06] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[22:07] <ahoneybun> night ovidiu-florin
[22:07] <ahoneybun> sup jose
[22:07] <jose> not much
[22:07] <jose> been busy lately
[22:10] <ahoneybun> yofel: seems to have built successfully
[22:12]  * ahoneybun has no access to the new site jose
[22:12] <jose> cannot do much righ tnow
[22:12] <jose> also, it's dev-only
[22:13] <jose> I'm not entitled to admin the page either :P
[22:18] <prth_> ahoneybun, just saw your msg. i m using dolphin v14.11.97 & instead of embedded terminal it just shows blank space
[22:19] <ahoneybun> prth_: same here let me check the version
[22:19] <ahoneybun> v14.11.97 here as well
[22:20] <ahoneybun> jose: ok that cool