[02:06] <tgm4883> I'm working on cleaning up the lintian warnings here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/mythbuntu-bare-1107192257/lintian what is a good way to resolve no-complete-debconf-translation?
[02:06] <tgm4883> It seems that if nobody translates my software, that I won't ever be able to get rid of this warning
[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[11:50] <dnivra> hello. I'd come a few days ago regarding the packaging of open teacher(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/682852). As said here, I mailed Debian(debian edu to precise) about 5 days ago and nobody have responded to it at all.
[11:54] <dnivra> should I continue asking debian if they'll upload the package? I do not mind doing so-I've to keep dropping into the IRC channel every now and then. but after no reply for 5 days, I wonder if they'll reply.
[11:59] <Laney> dnivra: can you summarise the discussion to date in a mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(cc-ed to debian-edu too)?
[11:59] <Laney> I or someone else will try to help you there
[12:00] <dnivra> Laney: will do.
[12:00] <Laney> thanks
[12:07] <dnivra> Laney: should I mention the Ubuntu bug? and should I mentioned you asked me to email the list?
[12:08] <Laney> dnivra: you can do if you like. I imagine it's something that both debian-edu and edubuntu would benefit from.
[12:12] <Laney> highvoltage: ^^^ maybe you want to do an initial packaging review? :-)
[12:48]  * highvoltage catches up
[12:52] <Laney> just because I saw you filed the bug
[12:54] <highvoltage> dnivra: debian-edu is also a small team so it's possible that they could have just missed it
[12:55] <highvoltage> dnivra: I could do an initial review if you like, I'm not a DD but I'm good at spotting common problems, if the package is in good shape then you could get any debian developer to sponsor it, we have a few hanging out here :)
[12:56] <Laney> I was hoping that posting to -derivatives would make -edu wake up, but failing that anyone else can sponsor indeed
[12:58] <dnivra> Laney: highvoltage I just found that open teacher has released a new version and I've a packaging of an older version. so I'll have to do the packaging again.
[12:58] <dnivra> should I do the packaging before posting to -derivatives? i still haven't posted yet.
[12:59] <Laney> most of the stuff should carry over (depends on what exactly has changed) — use uupdate to move to the new release
[12:59] <Laney> it might be best to get it as current as you can and then post to mentors
[12:59] <highvoltage> I guess using the debian-mentors list might be a better idea, having the package ready first... yeah what Laney said :)
[12:59] <Laney> s/post/upload/
[13:00] <Laney> then you can mail derivatives and edu and get highvoltage to review!
[13:00] <Laney> such fun
[13:02] <dnivra> Laney: i'll update to the current ASAP. and about -mentors mailing list, i'd initially posted to them and they asked me to ask debian-edu to sponsor.
[13:02] <Laney> more focused lists make sense, indeed
[13:05] <dnivra> and they weren't very enthusiastic of the name
[13:05] <dnivra> debian-edu that is
[13:08] <Laney> i'm sure that can be worked around
[13:08] <Laney> -derivatives can help you here
[13:10] <dnivra> oh that's great! I'll get the updated packaging into debian mentors asap
[15:07] <micahg> dupondje: hi, I've got a task for you if you choose to accept it :), it would be nice to go through the bugs tagged upgrade-software-version and request syncs/do merges for stuff that's in Debian already before Feature Freeze (Aug 11)
[16:27] <dupondje> micahg: I can search that tag on launchpad ?
[16:28] <micahg> dupondje: yep
[16:28] <dupondje> will do that next :)
[16:29] <dupondje> going trough all the ftbfs now
[16:29] <dupondje> and syncing those that have newer version in debian with fix
[16:31] <micahg> dupondje: thanks, BTW, we can fix FTBFS after Feature Freeze (new upstream still needs FFe in most cases, but it's easier to get for a reason like FTBFS fix, disclaimer: IANA release team member)
[16:36] <dupondje> somebody around with an armel builder ? :)
[16:41] <dupondje> Btw
[16:41] <dupondje> what can we do with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mlton/20100608-4
[16:41] <dupondje> ?
[16:41] <dupondje> armel build waits for mlton ...
[16:43] <micahg> dupondje: it needs to be bootstrapped by an AA I think
[16:44] <broder> what's the current stance on FFes for universe? it seemed like we were sort of dropping them when motu-release went away
[16:44] <broder> (since presumably ubuntu-release has better things to do than review a bunch of unseeded packages)
[16:44] <micahg> broder: tumbleweed and Laney are now on the release team to help with that :)
[16:45] <broder> ah, cool
[19:42] <dupondje> Could somebody check https://launchpadlibrarian.net/75520549/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.openmpi_1.4.3-2.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ?
[21:00] <Laney> broder: no, no dropping
[21:23] <dupondje> micahg: searching on launchpad for upgrade-software-version seems to give timeout
[21:28] <dupondje> ok worked now
[21:29] <dupondje> micahg: first example. Package got removed in Ubuntu/Debian. Bug is a upgrade request from 2007. Put as Invalid ? or ?
[21:32] <Rhonda> dupondje: Sounds reasonable.
[21:33] <dupondje> To bad I don't seem to have permissions to set it Invalid ... heh
[21:33] <ajmitch> maybe with an explanation of why it was removed, if that's still around
[21:35] <dupondje> ------------------- Reason -------------------
[21:35] <dupondje> RoDPMT; replaced by plone4 (soon to come); RC buggy
[21:35] <dupondje> ----------------------------------------------
[21:35] <dupondje> and its still not there :p
[21:36] <ajmitch> yeah, there were reasons for removing much of that :)
[21:37] <ajmitch> it tended to need a version of python that was years out of date
[21:37] <dupondje> yep just saw that also indeed
[21:37] <dupondje> 2.4 :p
[21:37] <ajmitch> you found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=564956 ?
[21:38] <dupondje> y
[21:47] <dupondje> Sometimes you would like to be able to upgrade a debian package :p
[21:47] <paultag> dupondje: debian's easy to play with, file a bug where it'll get seen
[21:48] <paultag> oh jeez, that bug is fine
[21:48] <paultag> might want to poke it or mail the debian ftp-team :)
[21:48] <dupondje> paultag: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621486
[21:48] <dupondje> seems like that doesn't work :p
[21:49] <paultag> dupondje: attach a patch with it
[21:49] <paultag> dupondje: then email the maint, and if you really would like it, prepare a NMU
[21:50] <paultag> dupondje: but it looks like security issues are present, so QA might help you fast track that and do a QA upload
[21:51] <paultag> dupondje: if there are CVEs file them important against it and you can go from there. If not, just report the exploit and how to dupe it, and why it's of a high severity :)
[21:53] <dupondje> heh ok :)
[21:53] <dupondje> i'll get that fixed
[21:53] <dupondje> tomorrow ... :D
[21:53] <dupondje> nite
[21:58] <paultag> dupondje: night :)
[22:12] <jtaylor> why is so much arch dependent :(
[22:12] <jtaylor> just plugged in my netbook and get 80% cache misses as my main desktop is a different arch :((
[22:12] <jtaylor> (while updating)
[22:13] <jtaylor> does anyone know when debdelta is goind to be usable?
[22:13] <jtaylor> should be this cycle?
[22:15] <broder> jtaylor: i haven't heard any motion on it since uds, so i'm guessing probably not at this point
[22:16] <broder> huh, i'm apparently wrong, actually
[22:16] <broder> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-debdelta
[22:29] <jtaylor> hey it even works in natty, but not very good ^^
[22:29] <jtaylor> each call loads a single delta
[23:52] <micahg> dupondje: yeah, that query is timeout prone ATM, in the example you gave, you can explain that there's a new version in the form of a new library


[06:37] <Yash_> hi
[06:38] <konrad11901> hi
[07:22] <Accelerator> popey: I have a question...Ubuntu did not apply for GCI in 2016...Will there be Ubuntu in 2018 for GCI?
[13:34] <aayush890> hi
[13:34] <daniellimws[m]> hi
[13:34] <konrad11901[m]> hi
[13:34] <konrad11901[m]> oh
[13:34] <daniellimws[m]> :(
[15:08] <heesen_> elopio could you please take a look at this https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1872
[15:09] <heesen_> elopio, could you please take a look at this https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1872
[15:10] <elopio> heesen_: wait, I suggested you to start with a different task. How is that going?
[15:11] <heesen_> elopio, i am doing that but my snap is empty
[15:11] <heesen_> elopio, i need to add content
[15:12] <heesen_> elopio, could you please tell me of elopio could you please tell me if this is good or not  https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1872
[15:12] <heesen_> elopio, could you please tell me if this is good or not  https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1872
[15:13] <elopio> heesen_: It's better, but not good to land yet
[15:13] <heesen_> elopio,could you please tell me what isnt good with it
[15:14] <elopio> The tests are not passing, and you are missing tests for your new feature. Your if statements are not good, you need an 'else'.
[15:15] <elopio> As I said, you need to improve your python before trying this again.
[15:16] <heesen_> elopio, I wil change the if if to if else
[15:17] <elopio> heesen_: reviewing your PRs requires time and patience for us. We have a limited amount of both. Of you want to keep contributing with us as mentors, we need you to follow our advice. Otherwise we'll better switch to other tasks.
[15:17] <elopio> *if
[15:19] <elopio> heesen_: so please stop sending pull requests until you are more comfortable with python. I told you this requires time, and to start learning with smaller projects.
[15:26] <coolpolygons[m]> hello
[15:26] <Accelerator> coolpolygons[m]: Hello
[15:27] <coolpolygons[m]> i see that...
[15:27] <coolpolygons[m]> but no logs in riot @Ac
[15:27] <coolpolygons[m]> Accelerator:
[15:27] <Accelerator> coolpolygons[m]: Seems that Riot does not keep logs until you joined
[15:28] <coolpolygons[m]> kk
[15:30] <m4sk1n> yup, and there’s no way to change it, because even if some matrix users would be opped, they will only get 50 level, but you need 100 level to make history visible for everyone
[15:30] <m4sk1n> with 50 level one can change visible name and room photo
[15:31] <Accelerator> m4sk1n: Levels? XD
[15:31] <m4sk1n> yup, level of permissions
[15:31] <Accelerator> m4sk1n: Hmm so everyone starts with level 50..how do we increase our level?
[15:32] <Accelerator> nvm i think we have to go premium for that one :(
[15:41] <wxl> ooh someone should snap spectre-meltdown-checker
[15:50] <coolpolygons> wxl what does the spectre-meltdown-checker do?
[15:50] <coolpolygons> im guessing it has to do sth with the recent intel CPU security flaws?
[15:50] <wxl> yep. checks for vulnerability
[15:51] <coolpolygons> hmm what language is it in?
[15:52] <daniellimws> bash
[15:52] <coolpolygons> depending on that i may try to make one
[15:52] <coolpolygons> oh wait it's just a script file?
[15:52] <daniellimws> probably easiest since nothing to be built
[15:52] <coolpolygons> shell script?
[15:53] <daniellimws> yea
[15:54] <wxl> https://github.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker
[15:54] <daniellimws> i was planning of doing it but coolpolygons you called it first
[15:55] <coolpolygons> u can always make it while i'm giving it a shot
[15:55] <coolpolygons> i'm just trying it for a challenge cuz im a novice programmer
[15:55] <daniellimws> ok sure then
[16:15] <Nissaar> elopio: hi
[16:15] <Nissaar> popey: hi
[16:15] <popey> hi
[16:16] <Nissaar> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26386542/
[16:16] <Nissaar> popey: still having probleams
[16:17] <popey> I'm sadly not a python expert, I wonder if elopio can helpl with ^ that?
[16:17] <heesen> popey, is sergiusens
[16:17] <Nissaar> popey: do you know abt what time hell be online ?
[16:17] <konrad11901> heber: hi, are you there?
[16:18] <heesen> popey is sergiusens here
[16:18] <Nissaar> konrad11901: can you help me with my task ?
[16:19] <konrad11901> Nissaar: I'm sorry, but my Python skills are very, very basic, so I'd suggest to wait for somebody more experienced
[16:21] <flexiondotorg> Nissaar: Looks like the upstream code for pyradio has a bug.
[16:21] <konrad11901> didrocks: hi, are you there?
[16:21] <heesen_> kyrofa,could you please take a look at this https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5911781492916224/
[16:21] <flexiondotorg> Nissaar: Can you share your `snapcraft.yaml` with me.
[16:21] <didrocks> konrad11901: going to leave soon, but still for a little bit
[16:21] <heesen_> sergiusens,could you please take a look at this https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5911781492916224/
[16:21] <popey> Nissaar: are you building the stable version? or the latest commit?
[16:22] <Nissaar> popey: stable
[16:22] <daniellimws> heesen_, weren't you packaging a python snap?
[16:22] <heesen_> yes
[16:22] <konrad11901> didrocks: I've claimed the GNOME Software tests task and I have problems with running the already written tests locally - the "check_installed_deb" test just freezes, without either passing or failing. Any idea how to solve this?
[16:23] <heesen_> waiting for approval
[16:23] <konrad11901> other tests run fine
[16:23] <didrocks> konrad11901: ah, heber is your guy on this task, I didn't follow it closely and he will give you more accurate info
[16:23] <konrad11901> ok, thanks anyway :)
[16:23] <heesen_> popey,could you please take a look at this https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5911781492916224/
[16:23] <popey> sure
[16:24] <heesen_> popey, thanks a lot
[16:27] <Nissaar> i cant even find the python file in /snap/pyradio/x8/bin/pyradio
[16:27] <Nissaar> the x8 folder is empty to me
[16:28] <heesen_> popey,is it good?
[16:31] <heber> konrad11901, hi !
[16:32] <konrad11901> heber: hi! I've claimed the GNOME Software tests task and I have problems with running the already written tests locally - the "check_installed_deb" test just freezes, without either passing or failing. Any idea how to solve this?
[16:34] <elopio> Nissaar: looking.
[16:34] <Nissaar> elopio: thx
[16:34] <heber> konrad11901, let me run it in mi machine. Have you identified in which function/step it freezes?
[16:34] <elopio> heesen_: your guessit snap builds correctly to me. Can you expand on what's the problem you are seeing?
[16:35] <elopio> Nissaar: please share your snapcraft.yaml
[16:36] <heesen_> elopio, i got a message saying the snap is empty
[16:36] <heesen_> elopio,could you please take a look at this https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5911781492916224/
[16:36] <Nissaar> elopio:https://paste.ubuntu.com/26392598/
[16:37] <heesen_> elopio, the commant  https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5911781492916224/
[16:37] <heesen_> comment
[16:37] <konrad11901> heber: I think that it freezes at results = results_page.get_results(), but I'll double check that
[16:37] <heber> konrad11901, it runs properly in my laptop with Bionic. Which ubuntu version are you using for running the tests?
[16:37] <Nissaar> elopio: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26392601/ its this one
[16:37] <konrad11901> heber: 17.10.1 in QEMU (host is also 17.10.1)
[16:38] <Nissaar> elopio: when i ran pyradio -h it showed me the same output as in the github repo https://github.com/Nissaar/pyradio
[16:39] <konrad11901> heber: I checked that again and yes, it freezes at get_results()
[16:42] <Nissaar> elopio: can i release it on edge or should i make corrections ?
[16:42] <heesen_> elopio,is it good
[16:43] <elopio> Nissaar: you can put non-working software on edge, if it helps you testing it.
[16:43] <heber> konrad11901, weird, let me check in that version
[16:43] <Nissaar> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26392625/
[16:43] <Nissaar> elopio: these are the same. does that mean the snap is working ?
[16:43] <konrad11901> heber: oh, thanks :)
[16:44] <Nissaar> one is the command i ran in shell and the other is from github
[16:44] <Nissaar> elopio?
[16:45] <elopio> Nissaar: I'm confused by what you are saying :)
[16:45] <elopio> please, be patient.
[16:45] <Nissaar> https://github.com/Nissaar/pyradio
[16:45] <elopio> I will try to build your snapcraft.yaml
[16:45] <Nissaar> look at the shell section where it ran pyradio -h
[16:46] <Nissaar> when i ran the command in shell. i received the same output. does that mean the snap is good ?
[16:46] <Nissaar> elopio: okay ill wait. im a bit stressed actually :D
[16:46] <elopio> Nissaar: stressed, why so?
[16:47] <heesen_> elopio, could you please review the task before 900 utc +4 sorry for rushing you
[16:47] <Nissaar> i wanted to complete 1 more task before the deadline to increase my chance
[16:47] <heesen_> me too
[16:48] <daniellimws> there's 12 mins left ;)
[16:48] <heesen_> yes
[16:48] <daniellimws> not meaning to increase the pressure
[16:51] <elopio> heesen_: Nissaar : sorry, not going to happen. "Do not be hasty, that is my motto". But I'm happy to keep helping you after the deadline.
[16:52] <elopio> things are building here... I'll be able to test your snaps in a few minutes.
[16:53] <heesen_> elopio, ok but please try if you can to see my task
[16:53] <Nissaar> elopio: ill wait thx. even after gci will we be allowed to work on snaps ?
[16:53] <elopio> heesen_: I'm looking at it.
[16:54] <heesen_> ok thanks a lot
[16:54] <elopio> Nissaar: you will be very welcome to keep working on snaps. We will be happy to mentor you and help you finding a path to keep learning
[16:54] <elopio> heesen_: take a look at the other snaps in snapcrafters. For example, https://github.com/snapcrafters/offlineimap
[16:55] <heesen> yes
[16:55] <Nissaar> elopio: ohhh great ^_^
[16:55] <elopio> heesen_: instead of forking the upstream, we fork the snapcrafters checklist, and refer to upstream in the source part of the snapcraft.yaml
[16:55] <elopio> heesen: did you fork that one? We need to review your checklist to approve the task.
[16:56] <heesen> yes
[16:56] <elopio> heesen: please share the link to the repo with the checklist.
[16:56] <heesen> sending
[16:56] <heesen> https://github.com/heesen3/heesen
[16:58] <elopio> heesen: please rename the repo from heesen to guessit. And please complete all the checks until the call for testing.
[16:58] <Nissaar> elopio: can i convert the cofinement to strict ? And should i build it again after doing so ?
[16:58] <heesen> ok
[16:58] <elopio> the call for testing is the most important part for me, because I can tell you taht it works for me, but we need to check that it works in a wider variety of environments.
[16:58] <heber> konrad11901, you can update qemu_headless to false in ~/.config/ubuntu-system-tests.conf to see the UI while test is running.
[16:59] <elopio> Nissaar: give it a try Build it again with strict and test it.
[16:59] <konrad11901[m]> heber: ok, give me a minute
[17:00] <heesen> elopio, I have rename it
[17:02] <elopio> heesen: thanks. Please follow up with the other checks in the list.
[17:03] <elopio> Nissaar: Progress: [ 29%], that's as far as I got. Sorry the time's up, but there's a lot more after gci, it will still be awesome to publish this snap and get feeback from users on the following days.
[17:04] <Nissaar> elopio: isnt the deadline to submit the 17th ?
[17:04] <daniellimws> yea today's just to claim a new task
[17:04] <elopio> I don't know, didn't you tell me 12 minutes left?
[17:04] <elopio> so what's the rush?
[17:06] <konrad11901[m]> heber: freezes at the rotating spinner
[17:07] <didrocks> the deadline was for claiming new tasks
[17:07] <heesen> elopio, i have done the checklist
[17:09] <elopio> heesen: really, you should relax and slow down :)
[17:10] <elopio> heesen: your repo still says [Project]. You haven't updated the link to the forum post with the call for testing.
[17:10] <heesen> i want to do maximum as a cyclone in maurituis then we will get power cut
[17:10] <elopio> heesen: you need to update the description of the repo. It still says snapcraft template.
[17:11] <elopio> heesen: you also need to update the commented section: The Snapcrafters
[17:12] <elopio> heesen: sorry to hear about the cyclone, I hope it will not cause a lot of problems for you.
[17:13] <elopio> but, by rushing you are just doing half of the work.  And maybe you can find a python book at a library, so you can practice also offline.
[17:13] <heesen> elopio, i have done that i submitted a new version at 21.08
[17:16] <elopio> heesen: I still don't see the updated link to the call for testing in the README. Also you have broken markdown in "Post an announcement in the Snapcraft Forum"
[17:16] <elopio> heesen: I can't follow your pace, sorry. I will check it again tomorrow morning. Please ping me only with questions.
[17:17] <elopio> if you keep pinging me every 5 minutes to review your task, I will have to start ignoring your pings because I can't review every 5 minutes.
[17:17] <heesen> ok sorry
[17:18] <elopio> heesen: when you are ready, like triple checked your README, tested everything locally, and you are happy with your task, just hit the button in the google website
[17:18] <elopio> one of us will look at it, some time soon. Not immediately, because we have other tasks to do, too.
[17:22] <konrad11901[m]> heber: by the way, have you tested the 17.10.1 version?
[17:27] <Nissaar> how do i ask the mentors to fork my repo etc... for packaging a snap ?
[17:28] <daniellimws> have you done the call for testng?
[17:28] <elopio> Nissaar: you need to ask first on the forum to transfer the name
[17:28] <Nissaar> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/https-github-com-nissaar-pyradio-snap-creation/3537
[17:28] <Nissaar> is that good ?
[17:31] <elopio> Nissaar: nop. You need to give the instructions to install it, you need to give some examples of the things you want them to test. And ideally, you would explain why this project is cool so they join and help you.
[17:32] <elopio> you can put screenshots, or even better, an asciinema. The nicer your text looks, the more testers you will get. You can edit the post to add more info
[17:33] <elopio> Nissaar: take a look at mine: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-ipfs/97 Or search for "call for testing" in the forum, there are many nice examples.
[17:33] <Nissaar> thx
[17:38] <Nissaar> elopio: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-pyradio-snap/3537 is that good ?
[17:40] <daniellimws> Nissaar, why does it say sudo snap refresh ipfs
[17:40] <elopio> Nissaar: $ sudo snap refresh ipfs
[17:41] <Nissaar> oops forgot to changed that
[17:41] <Nissaar> done
[17:41] <elopio> Nissaar: my same comment as above. Take it slow, review three times, do not rush, try it yourself
[17:41] <elopio> Nissaar: it says that it's in the beta channel, but on the install instructions you are not passing --beta
[17:42] <elopio> Nissaar: and you are not giving any usage instructions. With those steps, you are telling people that your snap prints a help text. Please add some real usage scenarios.
[17:44] <elopio> Nissaar: and finally, you give a step for refreshing that makes no sense in this case. You have just pushed one revision. I would remove that part.
[17:45] <elopio> take your time, keep polishing the post and once you are happy, submit the task on google. I will check it again tomorrow.
[17:46] <elopio> For now, it's time for me to do something different. Thanks for your contributions everybody! See you tomorrow.
[17:47] <daniellimws> bye
[17:49] <Accelerator> yeah bye :)
[23:40] <ivanfon> degville: davidcalle: I claimed a task (https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5279421646766080/) but it appears to already be done (https://github.com/canonical-websites/tutorials.ubuntu.com/issues/487), is there still any way I can claim a different one? Looks like the deadline to claim tasks already passed.


[09:09] <Abhijit> hello
[09:10] <Abhijit> anyone plaease care to add libmpfr1ldbl to proper repo? it cant be installed via repo in 12.04? needs to download manually.
[09:10] <Abhijit> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/libmpfr1ldbl/download
[09:20] <Abhijit> is it safe to rm -rf /var/crash/* and rm /tmp/apport.* when i get No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[09:21] <Abhijit> wrong channel.
[20:30] <erle-> current proposed xserver-xorg-video-intel breaks suspend to RAM
[20:30] <erle-> just saying
[20:31] <erle-> don't release it, it will result in burnt laptops
[20:31] <erle-> too busy to file a bug today
[20:31] <erle-> macbook wakes up while lid closed
[20:55] <balloons> ping bdmurray
[20:57] <bdmurray> balloons: hi
[20:58] <balloons> bdmurray, howdy. Can we talk for a second about scripts -- do you know if this is a script and how it's triggered? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1389840/comments/4
[20:59] <bdmurray> looking
[21:00] <bdmurray> balloons: I'd guess its a script but think only penalvch can answer that
[21:01] <balloons> bdmurray, ahh, k. I assume all the blessed scripts are done under a separate lp id.
[21:02] <balloons> that's been my experience anyway. Regardless I'm asking as I know different triagers work differently. Sounds like it's something to talk to penalvch directly about then
[21:02] <balloons> there's a question about the legitimacy of the bug being marked as invalid in these cases
[21:03] <bdmurray> well, it isn't very useful without a retraced crash
[21:04] <bdmurray> and it seems rather trivial to reproduce
[21:06] <bdmurray> having said that I'd go look in the crash database for crashes like that Launchpad bug
[21:07] <bdmurray> https://errors.ubuntu.com/?package=parole&period=week
[21:07] <balloons> I believe the user was concerned about privacy in this case.. he wanted the bug public and not containing his data..
[21:07] <balloons> But I agree..