[06:12] <dark_light> V4Vendetta, there are no w32codecs for amd64
[06:12] <rukuartic> solaar: type "IRC" in the consle :P
[06:12] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: in another window, type mount on itself
[06:12] <^Dingbat^> <-- trying to convince himself to cut over completely (now dualboot)
[06:12] <atlaswd> How do I get the stuff I install on my app menu?/ it doesnt show in he list after install
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Efnet - 'one step above total anarchy'
[06:12] <dark_light> rukuartic, the bot don't said anything :P
[06:12] <solaar> Dr_Willis: efnet is not above anarchy :)
[06:12] <rukuartic> Why would anyone want to destroy their computer with w32 stuff?
[06:12] <Madpilot> atlaswd, a lot of stuff doesn't have menu entries
[06:12] <rukuartic> dark_light: It was restricted formats, not forbidden :P
[06:12] <ITSa341> rukuartic  I just was used to most rooms allow up to 3 lines and the info didn't give a cutoff    found out the hard way    But I learn quick  :-)
[06:12] <^Dingbat^> Need an extra HD to backup my Winstuff before I reformat everything for linux ;)
[06:12] <rukuartic> ITSa341: Yeah... :P
[06:12] <eugman> Hey anyone know hwo to set it up so when a file is copied from a ntfs partition it doesn't retain it's no read status?
[06:12] <eugman> er no write
[06:12] <hiswacko> see it there
[06:12] <dark_light> !tell dark_light about restrictedformats
[06:13] <metalhedd> rukuartic: people who want to watch the things they download. :)
[06:13] <elkbuntu> V4Vendetta, can you imagine how chaotic this channel would be if flaming and enter spam were let run rampant?
[06:13] <rukuartic> ^Dingbat^: Just buy a new one ;) They're pretty cheap
[06:13] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi: i see it there, but its not in the fstab file
[06:13] <Madpilot> eugman, you have to chmod it after you transfer it, AFAIK
[06:13] <rukuartic> metalhedd: :P
[06:13] <DaLinuxCode> I heard Slask is dying
[06:13] <V4Vendetta> elkbuntu, dunno
[06:13] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Where would me make feature requests?
[06:13] <Madpilot> rukuartic, for what?
[06:13] <^Dingbat^> Make your own dang feature rukuartic ;) ;)
[06:13] <atlaswd> HELP I need 2 install proftpd as standalone but getting errors
[06:13] <fastbreak> hello, I got this error message that says "Base system installation error" "The deboottrap program exited with an error (return value 1)."  EG: A minimal install option etc
[06:14] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: ok, do you see the exact locations, paste that line for USB
[06:14] <metalhedd> i've never come across a file that i can't play.
[06:14] <bryan_> how come i can't copy anything to my hd? it says i don't have permissions
[06:14] <Madpilot> rukuartic, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[06:14] <rukuartic> fastbreak: Didja do tail /target/var/log/bootstrap.log?
[06:14] <DaLinuxCode> I heard Slask is dying
[06:14] <bryan_> though my account has admin permissions
[06:14] <atlaswd> you have 2 use sudo
[06:14] <rukuartic> Madpilot: bugs works for requests too?
[06:14] <^Dingbat^> You mean Slackware Dalinuxcode?
[06:14] <cafuego> Who is Slask and why isn't ge in hospital?
[06:14] <rukuartic> cafuego: +lol
[06:14] <metalhedd> bryan_: your account only has permission to its own home directory... the 'admin' privilige means you are allowed to use sudo
[06:14] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  well it looks like you need to make install but Im not certain from what directory you do it :/
[06:14] <Madpilot> rukuartic, yes, there's a bug category for requests/wishlist items
[06:15] <ITSa341> IdleOne  it just gives me a bunch of errors   brb
[06:15] <randabis> IdleOne, iirc, the module he's trying to install is for RH9, incompatible kernel
[06:15] <bryan_> can i delete the account and just have full privleges? and what is sudo?
[06:15] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  sudo apt-get build-essential then try the make command
[06:15] <atlaswd> How do I clear my apt-get cache?
[06:15] <cafuego> bryan_: You could, but it would be an extremely bad idea.
[06:15] <bryan_> okay
[06:15] <ITSa341> IdleOne  already did all that for Win4LinPro
[06:16] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  sudo apt-get build-essential install build-essential then try the make command
[06:16] <^Dingbat^> bryan_ it's best to run on non-priviledge account most of the time -- you can hurt your system otherwise if you make a stupid mistake.
[06:16] <metalhedd> bryan_: no you can't.  if you could, it would still be a horrible idea, and thirdly, sudo will let you run commands as if you were the superuser.
[06:16] <balu1> what is a .tar.bz2?
[06:16] <atlaswd> I cant get proftpd 2 install in standalone now need help clearing cache
[06:16] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  cancel all that lol
[06:16] <balu1> i dont see an install or anything in it
[06:16] <ITSa341> IdleOne  this is the second bootable kernel I have compiled myself  :-)
[06:16] <randabis> atlaswd, one way is to do rm /var/cache/apt/packages/*
[06:16] <bryan_> k, what is sudo and how do i use it?
[06:16] <gebharra> atlaswd: sudo apt-get clean
[06:16] <cafuego> !sudo
[06:16] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:16] <metalhedd> for example 'sudo apt-get install fceultra' would install the emulator for you and save you all this trouble... where as just plain old 'apt-get install fceultra' would tell you you don't have permissions
[06:16] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  Im at a loss buddy sorry
[06:16] <metalhedd> bryan ^^
[06:16] <randabis> atlaswd, apt-get clean is better though
[06:16] <^Dingbat^> you put "sudo" before any linux command -- it'll ask you for your superuser password.
[06:16] <ITSa341> IdleOne  thanks for trying
[06:17] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi:how do i open fstab with write permissions?
[06:17] <atlaswd> will it also remove record of old install?
[06:17] <cafuego> bryan_: In short: an easy-to-configure wrapper that allows you to tweak root access for user accounts.
[06:17] <bryan_> okay, thx
[06:17] <^Dingbat^> supy cp xorg.conf xorg.backup
[06:17] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  the driver is there there has to be someone who knows how to get this working
[06:17] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: you are supposed to run it via sudo
[06:17] <^Dingbat^> I mean sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.backup
[06:17] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi:kk
[06:17] <rukuartic> hiswacko: sudo <text editor> fstab
[06:17] <randabis> bryan_, if you don't want to type sudo all the time, try sudo -i in the console and you'll have a root terminal
[06:17] <ITSa341> IdleOne  GPS mapping and tracking are the only things I need to be able to go Win free on all the company laptops
[06:17] <r0bin> back
[06:17] <rukuartic> r0bin: Your boot went well?
[06:17] <^Dingbat^> There's already a root terminal in one of the Gnome menus.
[06:18] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  email the company give them heck see if you can egt help from them
[06:18] <atlaswd> where wouldI find proftpd? I need 2 remove 2 get fresh install
[06:18] <randabis> ^Dingbat^, true
[06:18] <r0bin> rukuartic, indeed :) running a nice copy of dapper now :)
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[06:18] <bryan_> so, there's no easy drag-drop way to the primary drive?
[06:18] <r0bin> ubuntulooks is sexy
[06:18] <rukuartic> atlaswd: Weren't you here before?
[06:18] <cafuego> atlaswd: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge proftpd'
[06:18] <balu1> is there something in linux that opens .rars
[06:18] <keith> can anyone here help me with installing UT2003?
[06:18] <ITSa341> IdleOne  been doing that for two years now. They finally released the RH drivers so maybe soon they'll do more.
[06:18] <IdleOne> !rar
[06:18] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:18] <r0bin> balul: www.rarlabs.com
[06:18] <r0bin> cli rar
[06:18] <HappyFool> !ops
[06:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:19] <gebharra> atlaswd: you can remove a package by using 'sudo apt-get remove <package name>'
[06:19] <metalhedd> bryan_: you can run a root filemanager.
[06:19] <randabis> balu1, rar-nonfree
[06:19] <gebharra> not quite sure I understand what you are asking
[06:19] <Madpilot> HappyFool, what?
[06:19] <balu1> randabis: wat is that lol
[06:19] <solaar> thanks for all the help everybody
[06:19] <HappyFool> Madpilot: spammer - saxible
[06:19] <rukuartic> Madpilot: I think that proftpd guy's back ;P
[06:19] <atlaswd> I removed it but ti wont reinstall new
[06:19] <randabis> balu1, the package from the repos that will let you open .rar
[06:19] <gebharra> does it give you an error message?
[06:19] <^Dingbat^> Spammers here?
[06:19] <cafuego> bryan_: As long as you set fil;e/directory permissions correctly, drag & drop will work fine.
[06:19] <balu1> ohh
[06:19] <balu1> i suck ;p
[06:19] <metalhedd> rukuartic: I was waiting for someone to make that connection :) atlaswd -> Sir_Something-or-ther
[06:19] <cafuego> ^Dingbat^: viagra?
[06:19] <solaar> anybody here know anything about an SSL proxy?
[06:20] <^Dingbat^> :)
[06:20] <HappyFool> yeesh. feels like i called the swat team
[06:20] <ITSa341> anyone know how to get a RH driver.c file converted to ubuntu ??
[06:20] <rukuartic> metalhedd: Yeaa... Meh.
[06:20] <HappyFool> ;)
[06:20] <r0bin> O, what tangled webs we weave..
[06:20] <r0bin> Eh atlaswd?
[06:20] <rukuartic> HappyFool: Yeaaa :P But don't overabuse it. Opers don't get enough love.
[06:20] <randabis> ITSa341, again, if the driver is for RH9, you aren't going to be able to get it working in ubuntu unless there is an updated version of the driver that supports the 2.6.x kernel.
[06:21] <Madpilot> HappyFool, I've got my client set up to beep twice when someone hits the ops tell - gets my attetion. I know most of the other ops do something similar
[06:21] <rukuartic> metalhedd: He's got a different whois though
[06:21] <metalhedd> atlaswd: hows the super elite warez ftp server coming along?
[06:21] <HappyFool> Madpilot: cool. thanks :)
[06:21] <randabis> modules written for a 2.4.x series kernel aren't going to work in a distro that uses a 2.6.x kernel
[06:21] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Has anyone given you your hug today?
[06:21] <balu1> there is no rar-nonfree ;x
[06:22] <Madpilot> rukuartic, I've got a cold, so hugging me is not a good idea :P
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> balu1, yes their is
[06:22] <cafuego> balu1: 'unrar-nonfree' (breezy) or just 'unrar' (dapper)
[06:22] <rukuartic> cafuego: XD How many times are you on bash?
[06:22] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Oh dear...
[06:22] <balu1> am i typing the apt get wrong?
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> lol #saxible just got banned in ##windows
[06:22] <randabis> balu1, it's unrar-nonfree; sorry
[06:22] <cafuego> rukuartic: twice that i know of
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> by lilo lmfao.
[06:22] <balu1> sudo apt-get (name)
[06:22] <ITSa341> randabis   I got ya
[06:22] <^Dingbat^> Rukuartic -- put a body condom first if you wanna hug im
[06:22] <rukuartic> cafuego: XD Awesome.
[06:22] <r0bin> lilo fails. that is all.
[06:22] <rukuartic> ^Dingbat^: eww.
[06:22] <HappyFool> balu1: it's in the multiverse package repository -- perhaps you haven't set that up ?
[06:22] <metalhedd> wjat'
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> r0bin, ?
[06:22] <balu1> i think im typing the sudo command wrong
[06:22] <balu1> i set up the multiverses
[06:22] <r0bin> Nothing.
[06:22] <metalhedd> *whats the process for upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[06:22] <rukuartic> I just see Madpilot now as a steel sentry, waiting to strike at the nubs... Thanks for destroying my image of nice admins...
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> metalhedd, don't do it
[06:23] <rukuartic> metalhedd: yeah.
[06:23] <randabis> ITSa341, it sucks, but that's all I can say :/
[06:23] <cafuego> metalhedd: /j #ubuntu+1
[06:23] <randabis> !dapper
[06:23] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[06:23] <HappyFool> balu1: ok, make sure you run 'sudo apt-get update' before trying to install.
[06:23] <r0bin> metalhedd, replace your sources.list from a breezy one to a dapper one
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> metalhedd, don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:23] <Madpilot> rukuartic, :P
[06:23] <r0bin> V4Vendetta, I just did it.
[06:23] <r0bin> Just then
[06:23] <r0bin> not five minutes ago
[06:23] <ITSa341> randabis   I hate to back down from 2.6.15
[06:23] <atlaswd> Eh i do it tommorow
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> r0bin, it's not a good idea
[06:23] <HappyFool> balu1: also, try 'apt-cache show unrar-nonfree' -- that will let you test if you *have* set the repositories up correctly
[06:23] <r0bin> Worked alright for me
[06:23] <randabis> ITSa341, yeah, that'd be bad
[06:23] <metalhedd> so the only way to get dapper is to install it from cd/dvd?
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> r0bin, you'll see:-P
[06:23] <rukuartic> r0bin: Can ya wait for it to come out first :P
[06:23] <hiswacko> how do i run a text editor from a terminal?
[06:23] <rukuartic> hiswacko: VI or gedit
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> hiswacko, nano
[06:24] <metalhedd> hiswacko: nano is a good to
[06:24] <randabis> metalhedd, no, you can choose the dist-upgrade method
[06:24] <rukuartic> hiswacko: gedit is much more user friendly
[06:24] <godfathr> i added a custom launcher application to my panel to launch /usr/bin/ncftp and i have it set to launch in terminal but when i click it.. nothing appears to happen?
[06:24] <r0bin> No, I must have _everything_ at bleeding edge.
[06:24] <godfathr> it was doing this with googlizer too
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> hiswacko ... you already have nano on gnome ... nano <filename>
[06:24] <r0bin> Tis why I cvs most things.
[06:24] <randabis> please note that if you dist-upgrade at this point, openoffice is going to be broken
[06:24] <IdleOne> hiswacko>  sudo nano or gedit /path/to/file
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> gedit <filename> will aslo work.
[06:24] <r0bin> I don't use openoffice
[06:24] <ITSa341> randabis   especially since this is the second bootable kernel I have ever managed to compile
[06:24] <rukuartic> r0bin: Its really not bleeding edge... I don't think. More like dull club.
[06:24] <randabis> ITSa341, why did you compile the kernel?
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> vi <filename> if you are adventurous.
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> :)
[06:25] <ITSa341> randabis   to learn
[06:25] <r0bin> rukuartic, Dull Club more like Hull Club.
[06:25] <randabis> ITSa341, fair enough
[06:25] <rukuartic> r0bin: But wait until it comes out, it'll be the sharper than any two edged sword as far as linux goes
[06:25] <balu1> i have hte repos set up right
[06:25] <ITSa341> randabis   like I said, I am new but I like to learn
[06:25] <r0bin> Double edged swords are usually _bad_
[06:25] <godfathr> any ideas?
[06:25] <HappyFool> not if you're fighting two-headed trolls
[06:25] <rukuartic> r0bin: Ooooh but its twice the fun!
[06:25] <btdown> Anyone running Hula here?
[06:25] <rukuartic> HappyFool: Haha
[06:25] <r0bin> lol
[06:25] <cafuego> HappyFool: tasmania is back online?
[06:25] <balu1> is sudo apt-get unrar ?
[06:26] <balu1> correct?
[06:26] <HappyFool> balu1: no, 'sudo apt-get install unrar'
[06:26] <rukuartic> balu1: sudo apt-get install unrar ;)
[06:26] <balu1> doh .. much to learn
[06:26] <rukuartic> balu1: Yep. Good for the brain though
[06:26] <rukuartic> balu1: And college transcripts
[06:26] <metalhedd> i'm bored.
[06:26] <metalhedd> ask a question
[06:26] <ITSa341> randabis   needed to install sources to be able to install parallels, vmware and win4linpro anyway so wanted to do the whole thing
[06:26] <balu1> ya ;) that much is true
[06:26] <HappyFool> apt-get feels like a verb to me too ;) I often forget the install
[06:26] <r0bin> brb
[06:27] <cafuego> metalhedd: That's not a gooed enough reason for possibly trashing your system <heh>
[06:27] <rukuartic> HappyFool: Yeah... they should just call it apt
[06:27] <randabis> ITSa341, I gotcha
[06:27] <blanky> hey guys, for ati card, my driver should be ati not fglrx right
[06:27] <^Dingbat^> Question:  I'm an old-fashion C programmer and would like to write apps for Gnome and/or KDE ... is there  a good integrated IDE available?  I know there's Kdevelop for KDE ... how about Gnome?
[06:27] <ITSa341> Night everyone  I'm outta here
[06:27] <rukuartic> later ITSa341
[06:27] <HappyFool> rukuartic: if you're a command-line user, i recommend aptitude anyway
[06:27] <rukuartic> HappyFool: If I'm looking for a package... haha I'm too lazy to save time
[06:28] <gebharra> ^Dingbat^: are you using the IDE to create GUIs via drag-and-drop?
[06:28] <randabis> blanky, if you want 3D acceleration, then you'll want fglrx
[06:28] <rukuartic> HappyFool: I'll look it up in synaptic, and then download/install with apt-get
[06:28] <godfathr> what's the latest version of gdesklets for ubuntu (available via apt-get
[06:28] <metalhedd> cafuego: theres not much of a system to trash really. I dont have anything installed right now, I'm running off a live cd because my motherboard wont boot from the hard drive. i only have a breezy cd right to isntall from, so I'd have to upgrade to dapper in order to try it.
[06:28] <^Dingbat^> I'd like that Gebhara
[06:28] <metalhedd> or install twice.
[06:28] <randabis> blanky, or possibly radeon
[06:28] <blanky> randabis, HOLY *** SERIOUSLY, I JUST CHOSE ATI OMG!
[06:28] <blanky> radeon i think it is right?
[06:28] <rukuartic> teh caps blanky...
[06:29] <foampeace> why are my programs all crashing all the time
[06:29] <^Dingbat^> Blanky -- running a 9600 fine here.
[06:29] <randabis> blanky, radeon is the open source ati driver that enables 3D acceleration on some cards; fglrx is the official ATI driver
[06:29] <blanky> ^Dingbat^, what's your driver name, ati, radeon, or fglrx
[06:29] <^Dingbat^> using fglrx.
[06:29] <metalhedd> foampeace: flaky hardware?
[06:29] <metalhedd> overheating?
[06:29] <^Dingbat^> foampeace -- stop spilling coffee on that mobo
[06:29] <gebharra> ^Dingbat^: you might want to check out Eclipse with CDT
[06:29] <foampeace> my programs dont stay open for long then they crash
[06:29] <rukuartic> Anyone know a great/cheap/easy/readilyaccessible way to keep your CPU cool?
[06:30] <rukuartic> Aside from hosting your servers in deepspace? XD
[06:30] <gebharra> ^Dingbat^: i hear the visual editor is quite nice. I use it for java and c projects at work
[06:30] <godfathr> i just used the fglrx drivers from seveas on my 5.10 system.. upped my framerates like 200%
[06:30] <blanky> hey guys
[06:30] <godfathr> at least it did on matrix screensaver :)
[06:30] <metalhedd> man, what is XD all about? i think i've seen it 30 times since i joined the channel.
[06:30] <randabis> rukuartic, you could try one of those big box fans as a comedy option
[06:30] <blanky> if I change the driver in xorg.conf from "ati" to "fglrx", how do I make the changes take effect?
[06:30] <^Dingbat^> Tkx Gebharra -- if only I could get some good starting docs on using the dang thing ;)  Already have eclipse installed.  Using NSIS for other projects with Eclipse plugin.
[06:30] <blanky> restart my computer? or can i just restart x server or whatever
[06:30] <randabis> blanky, you must restart the xserver
[06:31] <blanky> randabis, how can i do that please
[06:31] <gebharra> blanky: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop followed by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:31] <blanky> okay thanks
[06:31] <metalhedd> dremel out a skull shape in the front of your case for extra 4iR PHL0//
[06:31] <randabis> blanky, easiest way is CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[06:31] <blanky> randabis, just that by itself?
[06:31] <blanky> or followed by a command
[06:31] <randabis> just press those 3 keys at once
[06:31] <rukuartic> randabis: Heh...
[06:31] <gebharra> lol
[06:32] <randabis> ha
[06:32] <randabis> didn't know he'd do it
[06:32] <randabis> right then and there
[06:32] <metalhedd> hahaha
[06:32] <ubuntu> opa
[06:32] <ubuntu> boa noite
[06:32] <metalhedd> what if he gets stuck at the prompt and doesn't know to startx?
[06:32] <randabis> X "should" restart for him though
[06:32] <metalhedd> haha
[06:32] <metalhedd> 'should'
[06:32] <IdleOne> !br
[06:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:32] <godfathr> any help on custom application launcher? not doing anything when i click it
[06:32] <balu1> how do i forcequit an application
[06:32] <randabis> metalhedd, :p
[06:32] <blanky> randabis, i frickin installed the official ati drivers and they wont work, they worked perfectly just now (reformatted)
[06:33] <rukuartic> balu1: sudo killall <procname>
[06:33] <godfathr> balu1: sudo ps aux
[06:33] <metalhedd> ubuntu is the only distro i've had that problem with actually... sometimes it just wont boot into X.
[06:33] <godfathr> sudo kill -9 pid
[06:33] <metalhedd> maybe because I use GDM and i always used to use kdm before.  gdm is more finicky or something
[06:33] <balu1> well.. do i have to go into terminal? what bout a gui popup menu
[06:33] <vladuz976> is there a repo for xgl and compiz?
[06:33] <eletido> can someone recommend me a podcast client? along the lines of Juice or iTunes???
[06:33] <randabis> metalhedd, yeah sometimes it does that for me too...I think it is gdm related
[06:33] <rukuartic> balu1: gnome-system-monitor
[06:33] <godfathr> balu1: console won't bite
[06:33] <balu1> k tnx
[06:34] <balu1> no i know it wont
[06:34] <randabis> my console bit me once
[06:34] <randabis> it hurt
[06:34] <balu1> but im tryin to learn al luser friendly aspects to get my younger sibs into linux
[06:34] <IdleOne> balu1>  if it does bite then you kick it
[06:35] <gebharra> mind just randomly sends ^Gs to keep me on my toes
[06:35] <hiswacko> rukuartic: ok, the long awaited error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10039
[06:35] <gebharra> mine*
[06:35] <metalhedd> i feel so sploiled by ubuntu sometimes.. I think everyone should have to learn linux with gentoo.
[06:35] <rukuartic> hiswacko: XD And stop me from going to sleep why won't you? :P Lemme look
[06:35] <V4Vendetta> if ./configure isn't found what packages does the person need
[06:36] <gebharra> you shouldn't wish that on anyone :)
[06:36] <balu1> anyone here ever use mupen64
[06:36] <hiswacko> rukuartic: lol, sry
[06:36] <IdleOne> build-essential
[06:36] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Not your fault XD
[06:36] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Um... do you have python installed? Might need that... libglade as well
[06:36] <metalhedd> XD XD XD!?!?!
[06:36] <metalhedd> grrr.
[06:37] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Thats at least what I see...
[06:37] <metalhedd> V4Vendetta: if ./configure isn't found then you dont need any packages.. you need ./configure ;)
[06:37] <randabis> metalhedd, gentoo doesn't really teach you linux
[06:37] <IdleOne> V4Vendetta>  build-essential is the package you need
[06:37] <blanky> anyone here ever use easyubuntu
[06:37] <randabis> metalhedd, it teaches you to read more than anything else
[06:37] <cafuego> !easyubuntu
[06:37] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[06:37] <jean> hi is there a command to tell what motherboard i have?
[06:38] <blanky> yeah i know that
[06:38] <V4Vendetta> IdleOne, yea it's somone else they said they have build-essential
[06:38] <blanky> but I wnat to know which driver to use cuase it's asking for it when i try to install ati drivers, i know its either ati or fglrx
[06:38] <ddonky> jean - lspci
[06:38] <metalhedd> randabis: if you actually absorb what you read then you learn more about the command line in general and the way everything works, than you would learn in years of using ubuntu
[06:38] <blanky> to what
[06:38] <IdleOne> V4Vendetta>  are they sure?
[06:38] <blanky> easyubuntu?
[06:38] <blanky> fine
[06:38] <blanky> lol
[06:38] <hiswacko> rukuartic: im pretty sure the idea of this is that it installs all that stuff
[06:38] <cafuego> blanky: fglrx if you have a newish radeon
[06:39] <blanky> hey on an +2500 ATHLON XP BARTON, what's my arch
[06:39] <rukuartic> I really need to go to sleep. Can anyone make sure hiswacko gets it installed right?
[06:39] <cafuego> blanky: i386
[06:39] <blanky> ;) thanks cafuego
[06:39] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Yeah... But I think libglade is required for the program to run, and it doesn't have it
[06:39] <hiswacko> :(
[06:39] <randabis> metalhedd, probably, but I think there are better methods of learning linux than installing gentoo
[06:39] <rukuartic> hiswacko: I can stay for ajust a bit longer...
[06:39] <rukuartic> hiswacko: But from that pastebin, it looks like you're missing libglade
[06:39] <jean> ddonky: lspci how?
[06:40] <hiswacko> rukuartic: get to sleep
[06:40] <randabis> of course, I'm mad at gentoo so I'm kinda biased. I used to use it a lot
[06:40] <rukuartic> jean: run it in a terminal :)
[06:40] <ddonky> jean - open a terminal and type it
[06:40] <metalhedd> randabis: its the suffering and pain that teach you the lesson... that's why gentoo is important.
[06:40] <hiswacko> anyone here know about easyubuntu?
[06:40] <blanky> hiswacko, using it
[06:40] <^Dingbat^> I hear you can use Knoppix to help with a Gentoo install.
[06:40] <TylerWalts> if you want suffering and pain, use slackware :)
[06:40] <^Dingbat^> Knoppix hacks book.
[06:40] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Ok man... Good luck getting it to run. I'm sure it will. I think you'd still need internet access to use it though
[06:40] <ddonky> jean - bunch of stuff will scroll by, and your motherboard stuff should be inthere
[06:41] <blanky> !ati
[06:41] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:41] <keith> http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot50ku.jpg
[06:41] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Good luck again mate. I'm out for the night. G'nite
[06:41] <randabis> metalhedd, hehe slackware would be equally good in that case
[06:41] <keith> oops
[06:41] <metalhedd> ^Dingbat^: you can basically install gentoo from any other live cd anywhere.
[06:41] <keith> my appologies, what i meant to paste didnt copy correctly
[06:41] <HappyFool> !tell hiswacko about easyubuntu
[06:41] <Ramnath> ok need help with this wine deal
[06:41] <keith> is there a way other than the included shell script to install UT2003?
[06:41] <cafuego> keith: I doubt it, it's propiertary.
[06:41] <hiswacko> ramnath: im having trouble running/instaling it
[06:42] <metalhedd> randabis: no way... the REAL pain is recompiling mplayer 10 times becuase you keep missing a stupid use flag.
[06:42] <blanky> cafuego, pwetty pweeze can you tell me which arch i use for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI , i tried 386 and i386 and neither work
[06:42] <randabis> metalhedd, hehe true
[06:42] <blanky> remember, I have an athlon xp +2500 barton core
[06:42] <frogzoo> Ramnath: install from the stock wine repo & install winetools - easy as
[06:42] <keith> then could you help me figure out a way to get UT to install using the shell script?
[06:42] <Ramnath> i double click war3install.exe and it says error no program start menu found?
[06:42] <metalhedd> randabis: but to its credit, portage works REALLY Smoothly for such a complicated beast.
[06:42] <cafuego> metalhedd: No, the _real_ pain is recompiling it at all, just the the other millions of users, who all have _exactly_ the same config. It's a waste.
[06:43] <cafuego> blanky: Ok, k7
[06:43] <blanky> yay that's what i used last time (im stupid)
[06:43] <jonathan_> hello how are you
[06:43] <blanky> bad
[06:43] <blanky> you?
[06:43] <jonathan_> what are you up to tonight everone
[06:43] <Ramnath> stock wine repo and winetools?
[06:43] <cafuego> Using gentoo destroys the environment. And really isn't topical on #ubuntu.
[06:43] <randabis> haha
[06:43] <metalhedd> cafuego: i agree.. the compiling is what made me leave it... i couldn't waste the cpu cycles any more.  I still love emerge though
[06:44] <randabis> to me apt-get/aptitude > emerge
[06:44] <cafuego> And anyone who wants to argue on that is free to join #argue
[06:44] <metalhedd> haha.
[06:44] <metalhedd> i'm just sayin is all.
[06:44] <Ramnath> and what exactly is "stock wine repo"?
[06:44] <randabis> Ramnath, it's a conspiracy
[06:45] <jquixote> hi
[06:45] <odat> anyone know how i need to configure my fstab to have my second hard drive appear on my desktop?
[06:45] <frogzoo> !tell Ramnath about repos
[06:45] <blanky> cafuego :'( i keep getting this error
[06:45] <randabis> !fstab
[06:45] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[06:45] <blanky> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:45] <blanky> (sorry for pasting :P )
[06:45] <metalhedd> i dont like not being able to get the latest stuff...
[06:45] <Xenguy> .oO(and they told me there was no cabal...)
[06:45] <cafuego> blanky: Insert your Ubuntu cd
[06:45] <blanky> cafuego, do i neeeed to :(
[06:45] <cafuego> Xenguy: That was debian, surely.
[06:45] <Xenguy> cafuego: hehe
[06:45] <cafuego> blanky: Not if you delete the apt-cdrom line from osurces.list
[06:46] <jquixote> I'm having a little problem
[06:46] <frogzoo> Ramnath: if you install wine from the sourceforge repo, wine tools won't run
[06:46] <blanky> cafuego, oooo
[06:46] <jquixote> trying to install fglrx drivers
[06:46] <Ramnath> ah i see now
[06:46] <odat> randabis, what the hell is all that   i did it before by changing my fstab
[06:46] <Ramnath> so i get it from the universe and multiverse?
[06:46] <jquixote> I did the command: sudo m-a a-i fglrx
[06:47] <jquixote> and i got an error saying /usr/src/modules doesn't exist
[06:47] <blanky> cafuego, I installed a program and I got that warning, but when i go to install it again it says '0 installed, 0 upgraded' and all that stuff
[06:47] <blanky> so...should I just leave it? could it mean it worked?
[06:47] <jquixote> but I did sudo m-a prepare and sudo m-a update, so shouldn't that have been created or something
[06:48] <TylerWalts> So I need to install linux-headers, and found a bunch with apt-cache search, but how do I tell which one I should install?
[06:48] <metalhedd> mmm. thrice
[06:48] <frogzoo> Ramnath: correct
[06:49] <randabis> TylerWalts, you need the one that is for the kernel you are running
[06:49] <randabis> !kernel
[06:49] <alicia> Does anyone know the apt / sed or awk foo to show the number of packages available in the repositories?
[06:49] <TylerWalts> !kernel
[06:49] <thrice`> !+kernel
[06:50] <randabis> hmm
[06:50] <randabis> did ubotu die?
[06:50] <randabis> !fstab
[06:50] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[06:50] <randabis> nope
[06:50] <Xenguy> alicia: perhaps: dpkg -l |wc -l   ?
[06:50] <frogzoo> alicia: something like 'apt-cache search \* | wc'
[06:50] <randabis> guess he doesn't know !kernel
[06:50] <FlannelKing> alicia: you mean apt-cache stats?
[06:50] <jquixote> has anyone installed the fglrx drivers?
[06:50] <randabis> jquixote, yes
[06:50] <jquixote> randabis: I'm having trouble installing it
[06:50] <randabis> jquixote, but I used the one included in restricted modules
[06:50] <RemyLaptop> hi guys.
[06:50] <frogzoo> jquixote: yup - works like a charm - for best results, use the seveas repo
[06:51] <Xenguy> alicia: nope it shows the number of packages installed I think
[06:51] <randabis> os[Linux 2.6.15-18-amd64-k8 x86_64]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-32 @ 796MHz]  mem[Physical : 1443MB, 65.1% free]  disk[Total : 223.00GB, 60.00% Free]  video[ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955]  sound[ATIIXP - ATI IXP]
[06:51] <randabis> jesus
[06:51] <randabis> I gotta stop doing that
[06:51] <jquixote> randabis: the instructions told me to remove restricted modules
[06:51] <RemyLaptop> I'm trying to get a rio mp3 player to work with Ubuntu, anyone know how I can use it ?
[06:51] <randabis> sorry fellas
[06:51] <jquixote> randabis: I have the m300
[06:52] <jquixote> sweet box though
[06:52] <frogzoo> jquixote: read the docs - not sure fglrx supports m300
[06:52] <dabaR> RemyLaptop: plug it in
[06:52] <RemyLaptop> dabaR have done, nothing seems to happen
[06:52] <randabis> frogzoo, it supports the m200 at least
[06:52] <jquixote> frogzoo: damn
[06:52] <alicia> Xenguy: no, thats easy. I mean using apt-cache blah blah | wc -l
[06:52] <randabis> 200m
[06:53] <alicia> FlannelKing: correct
[06:53] <Derailed> hi all
[06:53] <blanky> i feel like cussing like never before
[06:53] <randabis> jquixote, well, fglrx is included in restricted modules
[06:53] <cheal> hi. I'm trying to get root using an Ubuntu LiveCD. I don't remember setting a root password, and an empty string fails. what should I try?
[06:53] <jquixote> randabis: well, my only problem is that /usr/src/modules isn't found in the install process
[06:53] <FlannelKing> !rootsudo
[06:53] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:53] <FlannelKing> cheal, read that.
[06:53] <blanky> !ati
[06:53] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:53] <frogzoo> jquixote: as I say, _I'm not sure_ so check the docs - fglrx doesn't support everything ;)
[06:53] <randabis> jquixote, I didn't install fglrx that way so I don't know...
[06:53] <jquixote> randabis: are you familiar with the fglrx installation how-to?
[06:54] <alicia> Xenguy:  Kind of a hack, but just about every word in english has a vowel so this should be close: apt-cache search [aeiou]  | wc -l
[06:54] <randabis> jquixote, depends on which one you are using...there is more than one method
[06:54] <alicia> thanks guys
[06:54] <Derailed> a quick question, what's the nice easy way Gnome/GUI/Nautilus way to find out how much disk space is remaining on a device/directory (as opposed to just using 'df')
[06:54] <randabis> I've seen several how-tos on fglrx
[06:55] <Derailed> what would be *sweet* is an applet or something that'll tell you how much space you have in /home
[06:55] <carlk> RemyLaptop: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/rio and ri0500
[06:55] <randabis> the method I found that is the easiest was to use the fglrx from restricted modules
[06:55] <jquixote> randabis: are you telling me that from dapper, all I have to do to is pretty much dpkg -i *fglrx* or whatever?
[06:55] <thrice`> Derailed, right click and hit properties?
[06:55] <blanky> Taken from a wiki page "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver"
[06:55] <cheal> FlannelKing: hum, I don't feel like learning sudo, but I haven't set *any* password anyway
[06:55] <carlk> RemyLaptop: er, rio500
[06:55] <blanky> would that be the same as editing xorg.conf and putting ati as the driver?
[06:55] <blanky> cafuego?
[06:55] <FlannelKing> cheal: you set your user password, correct? sudo is just like su.
[06:55] <dabaR> cheal: use "sudo ls" and use your password.
[06:55] <Toma-> Derailed: it automatically tells you when you dont select anything in nautilus
[06:55] <randabis> jquixote, pretty much...a little more to it than that, but not much more
[06:56] <Xenguy> alicia: looks plausible (but there has to be a more elegant solution surely :-)
[06:56] <blanky> cafugo yoohoo buddy! please help :(
[06:56] <RemyLaptop> carlk, thanks, will check it out!
[06:56] <cheal> FlannelKing/dabaR: I don't remember setting *any* password
[06:56] <Derailed> Toma-:  it does indeed, thanks :-)
[06:56] <alicia> Xenguy: I've seen it before... but can't remember it meh
[06:56] <carlk> RemyLaptop: yer welcome
[06:56] <blanky> is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver" the same as editing xorg.conf and adding "ati" as the driver or whatever
[06:56] <FlannelKing> cheal: so, is this a liveCD? or what
[06:56] <jquixote> will I have to have /usr/src/modules present? and if not, how do I make that show up? I installed build essentials
[06:56] <gebharra> alicia: do you want to know the number of packages installed, or available?
[06:56] <Derailed> thrice`:  that mostly works, except it's hard to click 'nowhere' when you're in list view
[06:56] <fridge> Hi, I am converting a few systems to Ubuntu from RedHat -- is there an equivalent tool to RedHat's 'chkconfig'? If so, what is the standard cmd line tool on Ubuntu for managing init scripts?
[06:56] <cheal> FlannelKing: yes, I'm trying to use it as a rescue CD
[06:57] <alicia> gebharra: available. Hence using apt-cache. Installed is easy with dpkg -l | wc -l
[06:57] <thrice`> Derailed, learn to use command, tis the linux way :)
[06:57] <FlannelKing> cheal: (you should've said so): ubuntu is the user, no password.
[06:57] <gebharra> i see.
[06:57] <TylerWalts> How do I install the kernel source?
[06:57] <gebharra> that would still give you the wrong answer tho :)
[06:57] <metalhedd> how are the dapper gui admin tools shaping up as compared to ubuntu's?
[06:57] <jquixote> I just had a great idea
[06:57] <IdleOne> can easyubuntu bork my system?
[06:57] <cheal> FlannelKing: he... (you should probably read what people say instead)
[06:57] <Derailed> thrice`:  LOL :-) I been command-line-boy since '98, but I'm trying to teach my dad how to move away from Windows XP
[06:57] <metalhedd> err. kubuntu's gui admin tools
[06:58] <alicia> fridge: update-rc.d
[06:58] <Toma-> IdleOne: not really....
[06:58] <jquixote> for anyone here that spends time helping people here, I just had a great idea
[06:58] <IdleOne> Toma->  ok then Ill give it a shot
[06:58] <FlannelKing> cheal: ah, youre right.  sorry, doing a few things at once.
[06:58] <Derailed> thrice`:   With ubuntu, I have a real chance if it being successful, but I want everything to be as easy as possible
[06:58] <blanky> cafuego, !!! you there
[06:58] <alicia> fridge: 'chkconfig --del service' is 'update-rc.d -f service remove'
[06:58] <thrice`> Derailed, ah; I gotcha
[06:58] <jquixote> integrate paypal into irc and each user can have a tip jar.. and if the user feels helped, they can tip you!
[06:58] <RemyLaptop> carlk, do you know how I can check what port it is on ?
[06:59] <cheal> FlannelKing: thanks, I set root password and succeeded to login
[06:59] <thrice`> Derailed, wish I could help more; but most of my file management is done in console :|
[06:59] <Toma-> jquixote: call me crazy, but id rather go un-rewarded
[06:59] <cafuego> blanky: no, I ran away
[07:00] <blanky> YAY
[07:00] <Derailed> thrice`:   Nope that's plenty of help :-) maybe I'll start looking at the gnome applet coding API... I'm surprised there isn't just a quick diskfree applet
[07:00] <fridge> alicia: Oh, thank you ever so much! It should be quite trivial for me to port my cfengine scripts across to Ubuntu now :D
[07:00] <jquixote> Toma-: that's noble, but imagine the dynamics.. you'd have more people trying to help people, opening PMs etc
[07:00] <Ramnath> ...
[07:00] <blanky> hey cafuego, is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver" the same as making ati for the driver in xorg.conf cuase i hate xorg-setup thingy
[07:00] <alicia> fridge: cfengine is awesome :)
[07:00] <Toma-> jquixote: PM's are a pain in the backside.
[07:00] <Ramnath> i found wine in the cross platform universe
[07:00] <Ramnath> is that the one?
[07:01] <alicia> fridge: man update-rc.d should totally do the trick for you :) and you're welcome
[07:01] <blanky> my buddy cafuego has left me :'()
[07:01] <frogzoo> Ramnath: that's fine
[07:01] <jquixote> gosh, now I wish I didn't remove restricted modules
[07:01] <RemyLaptop> Question: How can I check what port my mp3 player is on when I plug it into the USB ?
[07:01] <randabis> jquixote, you can reinstall them
[07:01] <jquixote> now lets see if a newbie can undo his felanderings
[07:02] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: lsusb will have some info on that
[07:02] <metalhedd> someone ask a question. i'm bored again
[07:02] <jquixote> randabis: ok.. this howto dug pretty deep, I'll let you know what happens
[07:02] <RemyLaptop> !paste
[07:02] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:02] <alicia> metalhedd: the answer to life and the universe?
[07:02] <Toma-> 42
[07:02] <carlk> RemyLaptop: no clue - http://idoru.world.co.uk/sba/  <-shocking dmca crud about mp3 player drivers
[07:02] <alicia> Toma-: You guys rock
[07:03] <Toma-> :P~
[07:03] <metalhedd> alicia: if I knew that, Id have someting more interesting to do than offer free tech support. :)
[07:03] <Ramnath> winetools has to be downloaded right?
[07:03] <blanky> wth all of a sudden i forgot where xorg.conf was
[07:03] <blanky> etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:03] <alicia> metalhedd: Like become a stock tycoon and do a hostile takeover of M$
[07:03] <Toma-> metalhedd: i got bored so i downloaded looking glass live cd
[07:03] <Half-Left> CarlFK, and so you should :-)
[07:03] <metalhedd> alicia: precisely.
[07:03] <RemyLaptop> Toma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10040
[07:03] <RemyLaptop> any idea what that means ?
[07:04] <RemyLaptop> which is the "port" ?
[07:04] <odat> anyone know how to have your second drive show up on your desktop?
[07:04] <blanky> guys, where can I find xorg.conf again
[07:04] <blanky> /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:04] <vladuz976> when is dapper going to be released? is flight 5 usuable?
[07:04] <alicia> metalhedd: And my next step would be to hire Eric Raymond as the CEO of M$ and let him do whatever he wanted
[07:04] <metalhedd> Toma-: yeah, i'm stuck running from a liveCD right now, which means I cant even eject it to burn a new cd... i'm pretty limited in my ability to entertain myself. and I'm real good at gnometris
[07:04] <IdleOne> !tell odat  about mount
[07:04] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: try "lsusb -vv" more or less v's give you more info
[07:04] <thrice`> blanky, /etc/X11 shoudl contain it; use "locate" in future
[07:04] <blanky> *panic* IT'S NOT THERE!?
[07:04] <Toma-> i prefer SameGnome :D
[07:04] <metalhedd> alicia: i got your back on that.
[07:04] <osz> hi
[07:04] <blanky> nevermind
[07:05] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: on personal boxes, yeah. fairy stable for common things on common hardware.  like all betas.
[07:05] <Ropechoborra> Got a problem... I installed breezy but it wont enter in the Graphic mode
[07:05] <Ropechoborra> =(
[07:05] <metalhedd> i just wanted to listen to thrice and rhythmbox has been 'loading songs' for like... ever.
[07:05] <metalhedd> Ropechoborra: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start
[07:05] <metalhedd> ?
[07:05] <Xenguy> alicia: I think this works...
[07:05] <osz> hi all im quite new to ubuntu and it seems that it doesnt come with any compilers ?
[07:05] <Xenguy> alicia: grep ^Package /var/lib/dpkg/available |wc -l
[07:05] <Ropechoborra> metalhedd is that the same as startx ?
[07:05] <metalhedd> err gdm not xmd
[07:06] <alicia> osz: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:06] <Ramnath> ropechoborra: configure the xserver
[07:06] <jquixote>  randabis: how does sudo apt-get -i linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) look?
[07:06] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: is it pretty good at getting the monitor settings for xorg. i remember 5.04 always got that wrong. somehow with fedora i never had to mess with that
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> Ramnath how ?
[07:06] <Xenguy> alicia: assuming that is what you were asking about ;-)
[07:06] <metalhedd> Ropechoborra: not really... it will load the graphical login manager which in turn runs an x session
[07:06] <osz> and thx xenguy 4 the monitor thingy it works well
[07:06] <nuts> finally got linux to install
[07:06] <odat> IdleOne, i want it visible on the desktop
[07:06] <BlingFree> lil help needed if possible...seems ubuntu config'd my onboard vid diver instead of my PCI vid card....first question how can i make Ubuntu go into "safe mode" to edit xorg.conf?
[07:06] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: no idea.  I don't have a GUI on mine.
[07:06] <alicia> Xenguy: I know there are more than 15000 packages in main + multiverse + universe. That can't be correct?
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> metalhedd but why it doesnt do it at the start like it should
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> ?
[07:06] <Ramnath> it's a command
[07:06] <nuts> this is cool they have irc install
[07:06] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: wow, what do you use it for?
[07:06] <osz> alicia: can  u choose wat u get thru apt ?
[07:06] <IdleOne> odat>  want what visible?
[07:07] <IdleOne> ohh
[07:07] <jquixote> randabi: s/-i/install
[07:07] <metalhedd> Ropechoborra: like Ramnath said. x or gdm isn't configured properly.  if that command fails it will give you more info
[07:07] <Xenguy> alicia: I get 17815 as output; what do you get?
[07:07] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: ssh in and do everything.  No sound, no X.  I have no problems ;)  (those seem to be the biggest problems in this channel, heh)
[07:07] <nuts> i was wonder when i installed ubuntu did I erase windows xp
[07:07] <IdleOne> can someone tell odat  how to have an icon that points to a mounted drive
[07:07] <alicia> Xenguy: 15000. With the stock sources.list + universe / multiverse AND the wine repositories from wine.sf.net
[07:07] <FlannelKing> nuts: that depends on how you installed it.
[07:08] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[07:08] <Xenguy> osz: glad to hear it (can't quite remember what the issue was tho :-)
[07:08] <metalhedd> nuts: no its still there.
[07:08] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: i guess that's true
[07:08] <metalhedd> sometimes i forget.
[07:08] <Ropechoborra> So...... i should try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm" and if it dont work.. i return here with what showed up?
[07:08] <Xenguy> alicia: dunno about your setup, but my number sounds closer
[07:08] <nuts> metalhedd when i restart it goes to linux. I want something that shows which on i want to should
[07:09] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: so, I suppose I'm not the most relevant guy to ask.  But, from what Ive heard, it's pretty stable, but dont use it for mission critical stuff (and if you find a bug, good job, report it and help us out)
[07:09] <osz> xenguy: i cldnt get the res over 640x480 abt 4 hrs ago
[07:09] <metalhedd> nuts: that is, you COULD have installed it over top of windows, but i think by default it installs along side it.
[07:09] <osz> thx
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> Toma- still not sure which is the "Port"
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/rio
[07:09] <nuts> ok
[07:09] <carlk> RemyLaptop: have you tried it with the default ?
[07:09] <metalhedd> nuts: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> carlk, yup
[07:09] <Xenguy> osz: oh yeah, now I remember - excellent :-)
[07:09] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: its not going to matter... tried mounting /dev/sda1 ?
[07:09] <nuts> i am not worry becuase I didnt have anything when I had windows that was important
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> Toma is that fdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> I've tried that, doesn't work
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> nothing happsn
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> *happens
[07:10] <Toma-> i c
[07:10] <carlk> RemyLaptop: on fdisk - sudo fdisk -l
[07:10] <thrice`> dmesg | tail
[07:10] <alicia> Xenguy: I saw it in #ubuntu-devel ~5 months ago and it was something like 18,000+. More have been added since then so I would assume it is more than the number you gave
[07:10] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: dmesg will give you more info on what device the player is linked to
[07:10] <jquixote> had anyone ever done sudo aticonfig --initial ??
[07:10] <Xenguy> alicia: /me shrugs
[07:10] <vladuz976> i have arch linux installed right now on one big "/" partition, what is the best way of getting dapper for a test drive other than live cd. i don't wanna necessarily lose archlinux right now.
[07:10] <gebharra> apt-cache search .* | wc -l ?
[07:10] <carlk> alicia: what is 18,000?
[07:11] <gebharra> that's different than the # reported by synaptic tho for listed packages
[07:11] <Ramnath> How do i get the winetools installed correctly?
[07:11] <gebharra> has anyone tried building wine from source for x86_64?
[07:11] <IdleOne> !wine
[07:11] <alicia> gebharra: .* /* etc does not work in apt
[07:11] <metalhedd> nuts: in ubuntu's system->administration menu theres a section for disk partitions.. see if your windows partition is still intact..  if so, you can give it a mount point and access the partition directly.
[07:11] <RemyLaptop> Toma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10042
[07:11] <RemyLaptop> that's the information in dmesg
[07:11] <gebharra> alicia: it does for me
[07:11] <IdleOne> !wine
[07:12] <RemyLaptop> not sure what to do with that information
[07:12] <frogzoo> Ramnath: download - unpack & 'sudo ./install'
[07:12] <gebharra> gebharra@lenin:/var/cache/apt$ apt-cache search .* | wc -l
[07:12] <gebharra> 18657
[07:12] <randabis> gebharra, I don't think you can build wine from source in 64bit
[07:12] <gebharra> apt-cache search [a-zA-Z0-9]  --names-only | wc -l
[07:12] <gebharra> 18657
[07:12] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: you think i can repartion my current root directory during dapper install?
[07:12] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: can you gimme all of those 20 lines tou tail'ed?
[07:12] <randabis> at least, that's what I've heard
[07:13] <RemyLaptop> Toma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10043
[07:13] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: no idea.  Probably.  You could also repartition beforehand.
[07:13] <carlk> vladuz976: yes
[07:13] <vladuz976> carlk: yes, to during install?
[07:13] <vladuz976> carlk: how safe is that?
[07:13] <jquixote> randabis: I did sudo aticonfig --initial and I see it updated my xorg.conf
[07:13] <nuts> metalhedd: it says partition 1 and free space
[07:13] <metalhedd> nuts: yeah windows is gone
[07:13] <metalhedd> :)
[07:14] <carlk> the ubuntu installer lets you create/remove and even resize partitions - very well tested, so very safe
[07:14] <nuts> oh well its not a big deal
[07:14] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: weird, its not making a device node?
[07:14] <nuts> i had nothing that i really needed to save
[07:14] <RemyLaptop> Toma- How would I check that ?
[07:14] <jquixote> randabis: can you look at my xorg.conf in #pastebin?
[07:14] <frogzoo> vladuz976: why not shrink your / partition & create new partition after it, & install dapper there?
[07:14] <metalhedd> nuts: what carlk just said would work for you as well, to install windows again beside linux
[07:14] <vladuz976> frogzoo: yeah, maybe good idea
[07:15] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: are there any /dev/sd* devices?
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> how do I check ?
[07:15] <vladuz976> frogzoo: what's a good repartioning program?
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> RemyLaptop  = noobie :)
[07:15] <jquixote> vladuz976: parted
[07:15] <frogzoo> vladuz976: parted, qtparted, gparted - but you'll need to run it from the live cd
[07:15] <carlk> btw - if you resize an NTFS partition, give it 10 min or so.  it doesn't report any progress, but you will see the HD light blinking
[07:15] <jquixote> qtparted
[07:15] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: ls /dev/sd*
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> nope
[07:16] <RemyLaptop> nothing there
[07:16] <carlk> I was tempted to reboot, which I am sure whoule have been bad
[07:16] <nuts> thanks for the help
[07:16] <nuts> i will reinstall windows later
[07:16] <metalhedd> nuts: n/p
[07:16] <Ramnath> ok this bastard keeps giving me a command not found error
[07:16] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: possible a hotplug/udev problem...
[07:16] <Ramnath>  sudo ./install winetools-0.9jo-III
[07:16] <Ramnath> is it like that?
[07:16] <vladuz976> frogzoo: maybe i'll put it on a different drive better
[07:16] <jquixote> can someone look at my xorg.conf at #pastebin? I think its fishy
[07:17] <liable> Ramnath: what did you expect that to do?
[07:17] <carlk> RemyLaptop: Toma-, is there anything that says it should look like a drive?
[07:17] <BlingFree> lil help needed if possible...seems ubuntu config'd my onboard vid diver instead of my PCI vid card....first question how can i make Ubuntu go into "safe mode" to edit xorg.conf?
[07:17] <Ramnath> something
[07:17] <Toma-> carlk: hu?
[07:17] <jquixote> (I have two ati devices, both on pci:1,0,0
[07:17] <jquixote> )
[07:17] <metalhedd> TOP TEN CONFIG FILES TO ALWAYS ALWAYS BACK UP?
[07:17] <frogzoo> jquixote: post the pastebin url
[07:17] <metalhedd> xorg.conf
[07:18] <jquixote> frogzoo: I'm in the #pastebin channel
[07:18] <liable> the whole of /etc..
[07:18] <jquixote> I thought you guys used that
[07:18] <gebharra> oo oo .vimrc
[07:18] <Toma-> menu.lst
[07:18] <frogzoo> !tell jquixote about pastebin
[07:19] <RemyLaptop> carlk, dunno
[07:19] <notos> i need help im trying to install ubuntu breeze but halts on network Configuration...
[07:19] <metalhedd> notos: like it freezes?
[07:19] <vladuz976> anybody know if there are iso for i686 or k7?
[07:19] <frogzoo> Ramnath: no - cd into winetoolg-... & run the install script
[07:19] <RemyLaptop> carlk, the software says it might need a different port than the default, but I can't find what port it's assigned to.
[07:19] <notos> yep
[07:19] <notos> in a  blue screen
[07:19] <jquixote> frogzoo, randabi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10044
[07:20] <metalhedd> notos: freaky... what kind of network adapter do you ahve?
[07:20] <osz> ok guys thx for all ur help catchya :)
[07:20] <carlk> RemyLaptop: looks like the port is fine: "USB Rio found at address 3"
[07:20] <osz> im goin 2 have to learn bit more abt apt
[07:20] <jquixote> frogzoo: it looks like that after I did sudo aticonfig --initial
[07:20] <notos> D-Link RTL8139
[07:20] <jquixote> frogzoo: you want me to paste the whole thing?
[07:21] <RemyLaptop> ok, gotta go fellas, will try later.
[07:21] <notos> and an onboard Davicom Eth...
[07:21] <vladuz976> the 64 bit edition of ubuntu, does it use 64 bit packages only?
[07:21] <frogzoo> jquixote: not necessary - you need to specify EITHER fglrx OR ati - not both
[07:21] <notos> Speed Stream 5200 router
[07:21] <metalhedd> try disabling the onboard or removing the card.
[07:21] <jquixote> frogzoo: thought so
[07:21] <metalhedd> one of them is garbage
[07:21] <frogzoo> vladuz976: 64bit is a pita - best not go there
[07:21] <jquixote> frogzoo: so just comment out the old (upper) one?
[07:22] <RemyLaptop> carlk the software for it expects the address to be a hex address
[07:22] <frogzoo> jquixote: yes - the whole device section
[07:22] <vladuz976> frogzoo: yeah that's what i am wondering about, i wanna get a laptop with amd turion 64, but better to stick to k7 no?
[07:22] <RemyLaptop> like 0x278
[07:22] <jquixote> frogzoo: rgr
[07:22] <notos> :O i will try that thankyou for the idea
[07:22] <metalhedd> notos: no problem :)
[07:22] <frogzoo> vladuz976: yes indeedy
[07:23] <Toma-> 686 kernels run fine on k8 systems
[07:23] <Half-Left> vladuz976, that processor will be fine in the 32bit version
[07:24] <Ramnath> cd into winetoolg...? what does that mean?
[07:24] <carlk> RemyLaptop: but "USB Rio found at address 3" - I don't thnk it would print that if it wasn't the right address
[07:24] <vladuz976> Half-Left: it's a crappy processor though, isn't it?
[07:24] <jquixote> frogzoo: ok, the deed is done
[07:24] <j-linux> I have a thinkpad t43.  I could not make a dual boot out of it (long story) so I bought another hard drive and an ultrabay adapter.  So I have two hard drives in my laptop.  I moved the ubuntu one to the ultrabay slot, and the windows in the original slot.  Now when I try to boot ubuntu it says something like "sda1 not found" ?  Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[07:24] <Half-Left> vladuz976, why would it be?
[07:24] <RemyLaptop> carlk, that address doesn't tell me anything though...
[07:24] <jquixote> frogzoo: ok, I have to reboot now.. cross your fingers
[07:25] <vladuz976> Half-Left: i dunno, that's just what i heard from some people, but that's all i can afford
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> the format for the command is "rio -p 0x247 -d" where -p 0x247 is the address of the RIO
[07:25] <frogzoo> jquixote: gl :)
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> I've tried all variations of '3', and still nothing
[07:25] <Half-Left> vladuz976, sound good to me
[07:25] <frogzoo> Ramnath: cd winetools-0.9jo-III; sudo ./install
[07:25] <blanky> man gnome lags a lot for me, when i move windows around
[07:26] <Half-Left> vladuz976, look on tomshardware.com and look for a review
[07:26] <nuts> with linux do i still need a firewall
[07:26] <carlk> RemyLaptop: im saying you don't need to know anything about the address
[07:26] <vladuz976> Half-Left: thanks
[07:26] <nuts> if so can i use my current firewall from norton
[07:26] <carlk> RemyLaptop: but thats just a guess
[07:26] <nuts> or zonealarm
[07:27] <carlk> nuts: yes.  put it near your door to distract criminals
[07:27] <frogzoo> nuts: never a bad idea
[07:27] <Half-Left> vladuz976, A athlon64 will fly in a 32bit distro so dont worry about it
[07:27] <volCOM_b0i> lol
[07:27] <ajopaul> haha
[07:27] <gebharra> nuts: take a look at the firestarter package
[07:27] <vladuz976> Half-Left: yeah but that's an athlon, i am talking about a turion
[07:28] <metalhedd> nuts: just a bit of warning. forget everything you know about software firewalls. they're NOTHING like they are in windows.
[07:28] <nuts> gebharra: where is the firestarter package
[07:28] <Half-Left> vladuz976, I assume thats the mobile version by it's name
[07:29] <vladuz976> Half-Left: if that's the only differnce, then i guess there's no worries, i thought it's like the celeron of the intels
[07:29] <gebharra> nuts: universe
[07:29] <Half-Left> vladuz976, no, I dont think so somehow, AMD dont do things like that :-)
[07:30] <BlingFree> ok... what program do i use in rescue mode to edit xorg.conf?
[07:30] <ajopaul> vim
[07:30] <alicia> Xenguy, gebharra: I figured it out: apt-cache stats | grep Normal | awk '{print $3}'
[07:30] <frogzoo> BlingFree: sudo gedit
[07:30] <volCOM_b0i> vi
[07:31] <BlingFree> thank you
[07:31] <frogzoo> emacs :p
[07:31] <Half-Left> vladuz976, i'm pretty sure it would piss my athlonxp 2600+ and my system is fast so
[07:31] <nuts> how to get to desktop faster by mininzing the other stuff. In windows it was windows +D
[07:32] <elmo909> any idea why the ubuntu live cd is locking up when its configuring hardware (it locks up right after it determines the keyboard type)
[07:32] <ajopaul> depends upon ur desktop , guess theres one in Gnome.
[07:32] <thewayofzen> keyboard shortcut question:     Eject is   0xcc ..    What keys are those?
[07:32] <vladuz976> Half-Left: i guess it'll be ok too, i was just worried coz i do wanna compile large stuff from time to time and on a laptop i didn't know how it will be
[07:32] <gebharra> nuts: Ctrl-Alt-D
[07:32] <volCOM_b0i> I have mobile sempron 3000
[07:32] <volCOM_b0i> it is fine
[07:32] <nuts> ok thanks
[07:33] <nuts> guess i have to reinstall windows xp today becuase now i find out that i cant play online poke
[07:33] <nuts> poker
[07:33] <volCOM_b0i> You have an Ati card?
[07:33] <BlingFree> to save on time... is it possible for me to edit ubuntu's xorg.conf from this Knoppix live cd?
[07:33] <gebharra> nuts: does it use activex?
[07:33] <metalhedd> nuts, look into wine, or maybe even vmware
[07:34] <metalhedd> mmmm vmware
[07:34] <gebharra> i thought there was a company that made an activex shim layer for linux
[07:34] <metalhedd> BlingFree: sure. you'll have to boot back to test it though
[07:34] <V4Vendetta> !dma
[07:34] <elmo909> any ideas anyone?
[07:34] <carlk> nuts: i bet you can play online poker
[07:34] <nuts> it a exe file
[07:34] <BlingFree> yeah thats cool
[07:34] <metalhedd> nuts: wine might run it
[07:34] <carlk> nuts: just not that pokler
[07:34] <BlingFree> so how do i gain write privelige?
[07:35] <volCOM_b0i> sudo
[07:35] <Half-Left> vladuz976, you'll be fine
[07:35] <carlk> nuts - what is the URL of the poker site?
[07:35] <metalhedd> BlingFree: sudo or just su.
[07:35] <BlingFree> ok i'll try
[07:35] <nuts> fulltiltpoker.com
[07:35] <metalhedd> i dunno how knoppix does that stuff
[07:35] <volCOM_b0i> make a backup Bling :)
[07:35] <elmo909> any idea why the ubuntu live cd is locking up when its configuring hardware (it locks up right after it determines the keyboard type)
[07:35] <tanq> ok.. ubuntu is apparently so simple it's hard.
[07:36] <elmo909> bad dvd?
[07:36] <Auci> Hello ppl
[07:36] <metalhedd> elmo909: possibly.
[07:36] <metalhedd> i had one
[07:36] <nuts> metalhedd: what is wine or where to find it
[07:36] <metalhedd> synaptic is your best friend for finding software.
[07:36] <tanq> i had my laptop dual boot with another linux distro.  when I went to install ubunti I selected to format the partition,
[07:36] <gebharra> synaptic has helped me through some rough times
[07:36] <tanq> but when it gets tot he installer it says something about no root
[07:37] <volCOM_b0i> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[07:37] <volCOM_b0i> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[07:37] <tanq> so its like I can't say that /dev/hda4 is /
[07:37] <volCOM_b0i> add those lines to your Repo
[07:37] <metalhedd> tanq: you have to choose to manually edit the partitions and assign the root mouuntpoint manually to that partition
[07:37] <j-linux> Anyone have any idea how to set up hard drives in Ubuntu so that I can move locations of the hard drive?  For example, from the regular location to an "ultrabay" on a thinkpad.  After I moved the drive to a different position it tells me something like 'sda1 cant be found'.
[07:37] <gebharra> j-linux: labels
[07:37] <tanq> metalhedd: where does it let you assign / to the partition? I didn't see the option.. like i said its so simple its hard
[07:37] <Auci> Can I paste an error that im getting? when I click the update icon i get an error.
[07:37] <roaet> I would like to download all of the files and links from a site (make a local mirror). i know I can do it with wget, but how?
[07:38] <j-linux> gebharra: what is a label?
[07:38] <metalhedd> tanq: i dont remember exactly, but its an option when you select the partition you want to modify.
[07:38] <cafuego> j-linux: You cna do cool stuff with udev; have it identify the drive and create say /dev/ultrabay for a specific module.
[07:38] <Auci> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directo
[07:38] <tanq> metalhedd: ahh i see it..
[07:38] <ajopaul>  metalhedd: sudo apt-get install wine
[07:38] <metalhedd> tanq might not have an obvious name, maybe 'target' or something
[07:38] <V4Vendetta> on the wiki, it says for dma, you need to set it each time the computer boots up, that's wrong isn't it ..
[07:38] <tanq> i didnt select mount point because i thought it meant the partition to mount
[07:38] <j-linux> cafuego: is that something that has to be done from Ubuntu?  I can't boot it
[07:38] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: yep
[07:39] <tanq> it shouldnt default to the freaking partition name
[07:39] <V4Vendetta> Toma-, why does it say that then
[07:39] <cyphase> YEAA!!!
[07:39] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: someone doesnt know what theyre talking about?
[07:39] <cyphase> Flight 5 fixed the Netgear MA111 on ndiswrapper
[07:39] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: see /etc/hdparm.conf for more details
[07:39] <jquixote> frogzoo: well, that didn't work :)
[07:39] <jquixote> !pastebin
[07:39] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:39] <metalhedd> tanq: it tries to mount every partition that it finds.
[07:39] <V4Vendetta> Toma-, i got dma on that's all i need to know :-p
[07:39] <volCOM_b0i> add this to hdparm.conf
[07:40] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: ok then
[07:40] <volCOM_b0i> /dev/hdc {
[07:40] <volCOM_b0i> dma = on
[07:40] <volCOM_b0i> }
[07:40] <Auci> How can i fix this? W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directo
[07:40] <jquixote> it said could find fglrx driver
[07:40] <Half-Left> vladuz976,  I cannot find a Turon64 review anywhere on tomshardware :-o
[07:40] <metalhedd> Auci: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the lines for the cdrom
[07:40] <jquixote> and when doing fglrxinfo it errored saying couldn't fine screen 0
[07:40] <cafuego> Auci: Insert yout breezy cd
[07:40] <metalhedd> Auci: or better yet, comment them out
[07:41] <Auci> the cd is inserted
[07:41] <blanky> WOOO SUCCESS
[07:41] <blanky> GOT ATI DRIVERS TO WORK, TOOK ME TWO HOURS, WOO!
[07:41] <randabis> yay
[07:41] <volCOM_b0i> blanky, ati or fglrx?
[07:41] <Half-Left> ATI suck thats why
[07:41] <blanky> uh, let me see
[07:41] <randabis> now give yourself a gold star
[07:42] <V4Vendetta> Half-Left, ati is fine..
[07:42] <j-linux> blanky: good work... I gave up on it... Every time I've tried, my whole system goes down.
[07:42] <blanky> Half-Left, no last time I got them to work instantly
[07:42] <blanky> no no no guys!
[07:42] <blanky> every other time, my drivers work instnatly, i love ati
[07:42] <blanky> but this time i was using the official company drivers
[07:42] <jquixote> blanky: how'd you do it?
[07:42] <blanky> (latest ones)
[07:42] <volCOM_b0i> J-linux, when you use ATI you have to add Option = "noaccel" to xorg.conf
[07:42] <blanky> watch, i'll show you!
[07:42] <blanky> *gasp*
[07:42] <metalhedd> Auci: use synaptic, settings -> repositories remove the cd entries and add some good ones.
[07:42] <jquixote> I'm trying to get glrxf to work
[07:42] <volCOM_b0i> for newer cards
[07:42] <volCOM_b0i> and use fglrx
[07:42] <metalhedd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:43] <blanky> i did exactly what this says ! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:43] <blanky> :D :D :D
[07:43] <Auci> Ill try it , tanks for your ime
[07:43] <j-linux> volCOM_b0o: thanks, I'll try it once I can get my sytem back online this time :S
[07:43] <blanky> volCOM_b0i, noaccel? what's that do?
[07:43] <blanky> might it be the solution to my laggy windows?
[07:43] <blanky> !newfirefox
[07:43] <ubotu> blanky: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:43] <blanky> !firefox
[07:43] <volCOM_b0i> ati's drivers don't support 3d accel on newer cards
[07:44] <blanky> eh? yeah they do!
[07:44] <jquixote> blanky: that gave me problems at "sudo m-a a-i fglrx" .. no /usr/src/modules directory
[07:44] <blanky> did you install the linux headers thingies
[07:44] <blanky> what's your processor
[07:44] <metalhedd> bedtime
[07:44] <nuts> i download wine and when i clicked on it, it says could not open "win_0.9.9-winehq1_i386.deb"
[07:44] <tkup> is it possible to mount an NFS share from OSX? it's being exported from a linux box.
[07:44] <blanky> jquixote, nevermind you dont need that
[07:44] <volCOM_b0i> at least that is how it is on my Ati 200m
[07:44] <salah> Hi, I am using Hp laptop. How can I setup my wirless internet?
[07:45] <jquixote> blanky: in the directions it said to install build-essentials, which should have all that
[07:45] <blanky> nuts, you dont install it that way, you click ubuntu and do what it says (add the wine repository)
[07:45] <volCOM_b0i> salah, Ndiswrapper
[07:45] <blanky> jquixote, yeah, you mean this right
[07:45] <blanky> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base
[07:45] <blanky> that?
[07:45] <blanky> you did that right
[07:45] <salah> How can I do it Please help me
[07:45] <jquixote> blanky: right
[07:45] <volCOM_b0i> apt-get ndiswrapper-utils
[07:45] <blanky> jquixote, and you have the ati driver right
[07:45] <jquixote> I followed the instructions to a T on a fresh dapper install
[07:45] <volCOM_b0i> you need your windows drivers, do you have them on disk?
[07:45] <ppd> has nobody managed to get overlay mode working with his/her tv card?
[07:46] <blanky> jquixote, that must be it, you're on dapper
[07:46] <blanky> im on breezy
[07:46] <jquixote> bah
[07:46] <jquixote> yea
[07:46] <blanky> jquixote, join #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <blanky> they should be able to know
[07:46] <nuts> wow linux is so complicated
[07:46] <blanky> *they should know
[07:46] <jquixote> ah
[07:46] <blanky> nuts, nah it's not
[07:47] <volCOM_b0i> salah, here is a link to a howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[07:47] <nuts> blanky: when you says click on ubuntu I dont know what you mean
[07:47] <zack> Im wondering how to edit " bootstring " what file and were is it
[07:47] <blanky> nuts, www.winehq.org , click download, and click ubuntu
[07:48] <Half-Left> nuts, do you even know how to install a deb?
[07:48] <devios> how do I mount hda1 inside of gnome...  (ntfs)
[07:48] <blanky> nuts, the deb is for debian, but you can try and install it with dpkg -i (namehere)
[07:48] <jquixote> is frogzoo around?
[07:49] <ajopaul> nuts: try sudo apt-get install wine in your terminal
[07:49] <volCOM_b0i> add the wine repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[07:49] <volCOM_b0i> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[07:49] <volCOM_b0i> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[07:49] <blanky> !firefox1.5
[07:49] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:49] <Half-Left> or do it in synaptic
[07:50] <Mosi> 'evening everyone
[07:50] <volCOM_b0i> yeah, synaptic is probably easier; learn to use vi though, it will save your life one day!
[07:50] <Auci> Hello, now Im getting this error when i try to update.E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[07:51] <Mosi> vi for the win
[07:51] <tkup> I get this error when I try to mount an nfs share
[07:51] <tkup> unknown special file or file system.
[07:51] <Half-Left> nano is easier
[07:52] <Mosi> but vi is superior :P
[07:52] <blanky> VIM FOR THE WIN
[07:52] <shreevatsa> ed ! ed! the standard!
[07:52] <Half-Left> yer but a arse for noobs
[07:52] <Mosi> doesn't mean it isn't best :P
[07:52] <Mosi> but  yes, that is true
[07:52] <volCOM_b0i> yeah, vi is one of those things you hate until you sit down and learn it. imo
[07:52] <blanky> volCOM_b0i, seriously man
[07:52] <blanky> I learned it and wow
[07:53] <Ramnath> i still don't see why linux is that much better than microsoft
[07:53] <shreevatsa> emacs isn't *that* slow, really...
[07:53] <j-linux> Someone mentioned that I might be able to fix my hard drive problem with "labels" (my hard drive was moved to a different slot -- a thinkpad ultrabay and now won't boot becuase it says 'cant find sda1' or something similar).   I can boot into a # prompt, but it's not my regular directory.  Can it be fixed from there?  I can't boot into the regular Ubuntu screens.
[07:53] <Ramnath> it's about the same really
[07:53] <Half-Left> vi is not clear at all when doing commands like saving and quiting
[07:53] <Mosi> ok guys, this should be easy. why does it tell me i don't have glib 2.0 installed when i try to compile swfdec for flash on PPC? Assuming i really don't have it, where do i get it? it's not in the repos...
[07:53] <TylerWalts> there is also gvim for graphical
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Ramnath: Because it was free, shipped too my door, and doesn't crash on me?
[07:53] <Half-Left> :write
[07:53] <blanky> Half-Left, :save filename, or :w
[07:53] <Half-Left> :qa
[07:53] <mordof> anyone here make gdesklet applet things? i need to know how to convert a string to an int
[07:53] <volCOM_b0i> it is very clear :w :q
[07:53] <blanky> :q!
[07:53] <Half-Left> wtf
[07:53] <blanky> :wq
[07:53] <volCOM_b0i> if you fuxxx it up :qa!
[07:54] <shreevatsa> ZZ
[07:54] <blanky> :q!
[07:54] <brettzilla> so i cant get my freakin ati card to work
[07:54] <brettzilla> :/
[07:54] <shreevatsa> Is "ZZ" the same as ":wq" ?
[07:54] <nuts> ok now i get this
[07:54] <Mosi> yeah
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> blanky: What are you doing?
[07:54] <nuts> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[07:54] <nuts> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[07:54] <nuts> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[07:54] <blanky> ubotu tell brettzilla about ati
[07:54] <Mosi> i use ZZ and :wq with roughly equal requency, and they seem to work identically
[07:55] <nuts> does it want me to put in the cd-rom
[07:55] <brettzilla> yeah i saw that, but i just read that there's a way to do it with 2 commands.
[07:55] <volCOM_b0i> brettzilla, you gotta get fglrx for some ati cards.
[07:55] <Auci> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[07:55] <Auci>     what is this error I cant update.
[07:55] <brettzilla> i realize that
[07:55] <brettzilla> i've been trying for 2 days
[07:55] <Mosi> j-linux: your problem is with your boot loader. i think Ubuntu generally uses GRUB, so you need to edit the boot label in /etc/grub.conf
[07:55] <brettzilla> i've gone as far as recompiling it
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> brettzilla: Get it with apt from the seveas repo.
[07:56] <volCOM_b0i> make sur eyou have kernel headers installed
[07:56] <Half-Left> nah, nano works like a GUI text editor
[07:56] <brettzilla> saveas repo?
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> !seveas
[07:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:56] <volCOM_b0i> and after you get it all installed, try to reconfigure your xserver. it worked for me.
[07:56] <volCOM_b0i> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i think it is
[07:57] <j-linux> Mosi:  Do you know where I can find that?  I can boot into a # prompt, but I hit "ls" and it doesn't look like my regular file system.
[07:57] <j-linux> (e.g., no "home" directory)
[07:57] <volCOM_b0i> make sure you choose fglrx instead of ATI when you reconfigure
[07:57] <salah> I am trying to setup wirlesss network when I run sudo modprobe -r bcmwl5 I get a msg ( Module bcmwl5 not found.) What I shd do?
[07:58] <volCOM_b0i> salah, you ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[07:58] <Mosi> j-linux if you type "cd /" it will set your current directory to your system root. etc is directly under that. (cd /etc) will takeyou straight to the directory you need)
[07:58] <brettzilla> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142427#8
[07:58] <brettzilla> thats what im talking about
[07:58] <volCOM_b0i> you have to have those drivers though, are they in the directory your working in?
[07:58] <volCOM_b0i> copy all your windows wireless drivers into a folder and type that
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> in terminal
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> and after you type that, sudo ndiswrapper -l
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> and make sure hardware and software is present
[07:59] <j-linux> Mosi: thank, I will try that...
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> if it is, sudo ndiswrapper -m
[07:59] <Mosi> j-linux: do you know how to use any command-line editors?
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i>  then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:59] <Mosi> j-edit: text editors that is
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> to make sure ti is working, now you can use commands to connect.
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[08:00] <Mosi> heh, j-edit....
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> that will scan for networks
[08:00] <j-linux> Mosi: emacs
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (network name)
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:00] <Mosi> j-linux: good deal. do you happen to know what the device file that contains yoru home directory on it is?
[08:01] <salah> i don't get it,Can u explain ltl more?
[08:01] <volCOM_b0i> that should get your wireless working..  Screw the GUI prorgams, use the command line, it is far easier and works 100%
[08:03] <volCOM_b0i> you need a program to wrap around your windows drivers to make them work in linux.  that is what ndiswrapper does
[08:03] <j-linux> Mosi: what do you mean?  (sorry... I'm not an advanced user)
[08:03] <brettzilla> so how do i edit grub? i've got like 8 things in my list
[08:03] <brettzilla> mostly repeats
[08:03] <Mosi> j-linux: can you describe what you did to your hardware that caused the problem?
[08:03] <volCOM_b0i> when you type 'sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf' you are telling ndiswrapper to install the driver bcmwl5.inf
[08:03] <salah> So, How can I setup  it?
[08:03] <volCOM_b0i> HAHA, I am telling you.
[08:04] <blanky> !mplayer
[08:04] <ubotu> mplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:04] <Morrowyn> morning
[08:04] <volCOM_b0i> first you need to get your wireless drivers in a folder
[08:04] <volCOM_b0i> your windows ones, they are probably found on your restore disk that came with your computer.
[08:04] <Half-Left> brettzilla, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:04] <volCOM_b0i> should be in a folder called WLAN
[08:04] <brettzilla> thanks!
[08:04] <brettzilla> gedit?
[08:04] <brettzilla> or nano
[08:04] <brettzilla> right
[08:04] <j-linux> Mosi: I had ubuntu breezy on my thinkpad -- 100% of the drive.  I took out the hard drive and put it in an ultrabay adapter and now it wont boot.  So basically, just changed the locaiton of the hard drive and now it says something like "can't find sda1" and gives me a # prompt.
[08:04] <salah> yah
[08:05] <Morrowyn> when i boot ubuntu, it always loads my snd modules, is there any way for me to disable that?
[08:05] <Half-Left> whatever suits you
[08:05] <brettzilla> thanks.
[08:05] <volCOM_b0i> when you get them in a folder, you go to that directory in a terminal
[08:05] <salah> Where I should copy them ? in dextop or other place?
[08:05] <volCOM_b0i> you can dir to make sure they are there, and your in the right place
[08:05] <Half-Left> remember to sudo :-)
[08:05] <n0yd> Anyone running flight 5 yet?
[08:05] <tkup> I get permission denied whenever I try to mount a linux nfs share from osx. Does anyone know why?
[08:05] <volCOM_b0i> when you are in the folder, you can begin to install the drivers with ndiswrapper.
[08:06] <Half-Left> Morrowyn, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> you type this
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> that will install it
[08:06] <Morrowyn> ok thanks
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -l
[08:07] <blanky> !multiverse
[08:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> that will check to make sure it is installed right; you want to to say software present, hardware present
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> if it says hardware present, and software present
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> you can move on
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:08] <volCOM_b0i> that will add a modprobe entry so you don't have to modprobe after every reboot
[08:08] <markk> ok, I am going out of my mind
[08:08] <Mosi> j-linux: during the process of booting up, your computer starts out running BIOS directly off the motherboard, this is a very simple, primitive stage that doesn't have very much intelligence. That passes the job of booting off to a few other stages one at a time, each one progressively smarter and more complicated then the last. The second to last stage is your boot loader, which should be GRUB. GRUB looks for all the necessary filesystem
[08:08] <Mosi> s and such, and it refers to them by special files called device files that are contained in the system directory '/etc'
[08:08] <manda> hai
[08:08] <salah> sudo: ndiswrapper: command not found
[08:08] <salah>  I am getting  this msg
[08:08] <manda> hai
[08:08] <volCOM_b0i> have you installed ndiswrapper?
[08:08] <volCOM_b0i> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:09] <markk> my first ubuntu install, I could play americas army just fine.   But i had to reinstall, and now it won't play the game for spit.   Driver changes the same, etc...   but it won't do more than 8 fps, when it did 30 before.   any ideas?
[08:09] <randabis> there's always a keg of beer and a block of cheese
[08:09] <polpak> markk: what video card?
[08:09] <j-linux> Mosi: Thanks... I am going to look at that file in a few minutes...
[08:09] <markk> radeon 9700
[08:09] <markk> pro
[08:09] <polpak> markk: and you've installed the drivers per the HOWTO ?
[08:09] <markk> yes
[08:09] <markk> all 4 installs, yes
[08:09] <markk> only the first one worked
[08:10] <Mosi> j-linux: sda1 is one of those files (the full path name is /etc/sda1). What happened when you switched your hard drive around was that it is now pointed to by a different device file.
[08:10] <volCOM_b0i> Salah, did it install?
[08:10] <markk> and yes, formatted the drive each time
[08:10] <salah> yah i did it but it says
[08:10] <Auci> What do I need to do  in order to fix this?E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[08:10] <salah> some file not updated
[08:10] <markk> i'm using fglrx
[08:10] <polpak> markk: what is the output of this command ?? glxinfo  | grep direct
[08:10] <volCOM_b0i> ok, see if it installed. type
[08:10] <volCOM_b0i> whereis ndiswrapper
[08:10] <Mosi> j-linux: when your computer boots, what happens when you do LS from the directory you start out in?
[08:10] <j-linux> Mosi: is there any way to figure out what it is suppsoed to be?
[08:11] <manda> hai
[08:11] <markk> direct rendering; yes
[08:11] <j-linux> Mosi: I get a strange looking file system (no home directory)
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> ndiswrapper: /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper /etc/ndiswrapper /usr/share/man/man8/ndiswrapper.8.gz
[08:11] <Mosi> j-linux: it would be easier if i could see it, but we should be able to figure it out
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> should say something liek that
[08:11] <polpak> markk: have you tried other openGL games?
[08:11] <salah> yah
[08:11] <V4Vendetta> LMFAOOO .... http://www.demonlegion.net/private/Hammer/Screenshot3.png
[08:11] <markk> no
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> so it installed
[08:11] <salah> that's true
[08:11] <Mosi> j-linux: can you name two or three of the files in the directory you're in?
[08:11] <j-linux> Mosi: I think I tried typing 'emacs' with no luck.,
[08:11] <markk> I don't know of any other games this demanding
[08:11] <salah> now what is next to do
[08:11] <Mosi> j-linux or directories
[08:11] <j-linux> I think there were the regular directories: dev, etc, bin
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> ok, is your terminal in the same directory as your drivers
[08:12] <n0yd> Anyone have a link to the flight 5 release notes?
[08:12] <Mosi> j-linux: what's in /home?
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> type ls to see if they are there
[08:12] <Morrowyn> Half-Left, i dont have that blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d/ any idea?
[08:12] <j-linux> Mosi: I couldn't find a home directory...
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcm43xxa.cat  bcmwl5.PNF    bcmwlhom.ini  data2.cab     layout.bin  setup.inx
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcm43xx.cat   bcmwl5.sys    bcmwlntp.sys  ikernel.ex_   setupa.ini  setup.iss
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcmwl5a.inf   bcmwld2k.exe  bcmwlu00.exe  infcache.1    setupd.ini  sp29842.cva
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcmwl5a.PNF   bcmwlhoa.ini  data1.cab     is.exe        setup.exe
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcmwl5.inf    bcmwlhom.exe  data1.hdr     launcher.ini  Setup.ini
[08:13] <volCOM_b0i> you should see something liek that.
[08:13] <n0yd> heh
[08:13] <blanky> hey guys
[08:13] <blanky> in terminal
[08:13] <blanky> could I CD into a hidden folder
[08:13] <Mosi> j-linux: is the directory itself not there, or no files in it?
[08:13] <blanky> cause, cd .mplayer isn't working
[08:13] <n0yd> A bunch of windows drivers
[08:13] <Half-Left> Morrowyn, I'm in Dapper so
[08:13] <polpak> blanky: yes
[08:13] <alicia> volCOM_b0i: !flood
[08:13] <salah> not really
[08:13] <alicia> !flood
[08:13] <ubotu> it has been said that flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[08:13] <salah> I have in CD
[08:13] <salah> Should I copy in dextop?
[08:13] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: One of those evil buggers can be used natively in Dapper.
[08:14] <blanky> jorge@blank:~$ cd .mplayer
[08:14] <blanky> bash: cd: .mplayer: No such file or directory
[08:14] <j-linux> Mosi: I didn't see a home directory there... very strange
[08:14] <n0yd> !info gnome
[08:14] <alicia> bcm43xx can be used natively in Dapper
[08:14] <polpak> blanky: then the directory isn't there
[08:14] <ubotu> gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[08:14] <volCOM_b0i> cafuego, i thought i saw it detect my card in dapper install!
[08:14] <Mosi> j-linux: that is strange. can you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/fstab? ( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl )
[08:14] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: I use it (pcmcia) on my laptop and on my wife's iBook.
[08:14] <n0yd> The package size looks a bit off :)
[08:14] <randabis> bcm43xx is evil in dapper
[08:14] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[08:14] <ubotu> bcm43xx is, like, You can get a working firmware set from http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/bcm43xx_firmware.zip for your bcm4306 based card (iBook, Powerbook)
[08:14] <j-linux> Mosi:  I will have to reboot: I am stuck in Window$ at the moment.
[08:15] <Mosi> j-linux: ok
[08:15] <salah> wheer I should copy?
[08:15] <Auci> What do I need to do  in order to fix this?E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[08:15] <volCOM_b0i> wow, I only know the ndiswrapper route, I will check this out when dapper is stable.
[08:15] <Mosi> j-linux: wait
[08:15] <n0yd> !info xfce4
[08:15] <Mosi> j-linux: post the contents of /etc/grub.conf and /etc/passwd while you're at it
[08:15] <ubotu> xfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[08:15] <j-linux> Mosi: ok
[08:15] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: If wpasupplicant wasn't so crappy, it would rock :-)
[08:15] <volCOM_b0i> how do you get it installed native in dapper?
[08:15] <n0yd> !info jwm
[08:15] <Morrowyn> ok\
[08:16] <j-linux> Mosi: I'll be back in a few minutes.
[08:16] <n0yd> :( no jims window manager
[08:16] <Mosi> j-linux: ok, i'll wait
[08:16] <j-linux> Mosi: thanks for your help.
[08:16] <n0yd> or is it "joe"
[08:16] <volCOM_b0i> salah, make a folder in your HOME called wlan
[08:16] <Mosi> j-linux: no worries, giving back to the community :)
[08:16] <keherman> I love Ubuntu!
[08:16] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: You install dapper, and fetch that firmware zip, place firmware in /lib/firmware/$(uname -r) and it works.
[08:16] <keherman> i wish i could marry it
[08:17] <keherman> but Bush would say that's against the constitution!
[08:17] <randabis> cafuego, not for me :p it freezes my system
[08:17] <Half-Left> Morrowyn, see if there is a blacklist file, do locate blacklist
[08:17] <randabis> and causes kernel panic
[08:17] <volCOM_b0i> does it need to be the firmware zip? Or can i use the files from my restore disk?
[08:17] <keherman> is the Dapper delay definite?
[08:17] <Morrowyn> its in /etc/hotplug :)
[08:17] <randabis> !dapper
[08:17] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[08:17] <cafuego> randabis: Got a non 4306?
[08:18] <salah> Yah I made it
[08:18] <volCOM_b0i> ok, got them copied salah?
[08:18] <salah> yah
[08:18] <salah> done
[08:18] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: You need the extraced frmware, you cna use a util to get it from the windoze drivers, but it's hassle (and I _know_ mine work :-)
[08:18] <n0yd> !info xgl
[08:18] <^Dingbat^> arivne
[08:18] <randabis> cafuego, yes, I bcm4318..I don't use the firmware you provide though..I use the firmware I got from using fwcutter on the driver that works with ndiswrapper
[08:19] <volCOM_b0i> ok salah, are you on the computer right now that you are trying to get working?
[08:19] <salah> yah
[08:19] <cafuego> randabis: Mine works on my linksys card and the iBook, i got it by using fwcutter on a firmware for an access point.
[08:19] <salah> I am using lan
[08:19] <blanky> guys, for the new firefox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion says i need the tar.gz file, where can i find it here ? what director? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>/
[08:20] <eubenesa> hey
[08:20] <volCOM_b0i> ok take a terminal to that wlan directory
[08:20] <eubenesa> when i do sudo apt-get install nabi
[08:20] <eubenesa> it says it cannot find the package
[08:20] <randabis> cafuego, yeah, I think it's just not gonna work with the 4318
[08:20] <Morrowyn> eubenesa, try adding the proper repository to your sources.list
[08:20] <Morrowyn> and do a apt-get update
[08:20] <eubenesa> morrowyn, how?
[08:21] <Toma-> blanky: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> are you there, type ls to make sure.
[08:21] <eubenesa> i got it
[08:21] <eubenesa> thanks
[08:21] <Morrowyn> i dont know in what rep nabi resides, but searcg on that
[08:21] <salah> yah
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> you should see the bcmwl5.inf file
[08:21] <salah> I got it
[08:21] <salah> yah I can see
[08:21] <blanky> thats what i thought Toma- but I got i386 (athlon xp +2500), isn't i686 for 64 bit?
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> ok, now type ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> sudo first
[08:21] <Half-Left> blanky, http://www.mozilla.com/
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[08:22] <blanky> Toma-, ?
[08:22] <Half-Left> just click the download link
[08:22] <Toma-> blanky: no. x86_64 is 64 bit, 386,586,686 is all 32 and favorable for you
[08:22] <salah> yah
[08:22] <blanky> oooo thanks!
[08:22] <volCOM_b0i> then type, ndiswrapper -l
[08:22] <volCOM_b0i> does it say hardware present, and software present
[08:22] <salah> both are present
[08:23] <volCOM_b0i> ok, type sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:23] <salah> yah
[08:23] <volCOM_b0i> ok, you onlky need to do this because we don't want to reboot, type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:24] <salah> operation not permitted sir.
[08:24] <volCOM_b0i> did you use sudo
[08:25] <salah> yah
[08:25] <salah> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:25] <salah> my light is not coming
[08:25] <blanky> !firefox1.5
[08:25] <salah> should i restart?
[08:25] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:25] <devios> what's everyone using to manage music library in gnome on ubuntu?
[08:25] <volCOM_b0i> no, not yet.  I am trying to think of why it is doing that.
[08:26] <alicia> devios: rhythmbox + easytag
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> if it isn't going to modprobe now, I don't see why it will when you reboot
[08:26] <salah> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:26] <ajopaul> devios: xfmedia, which came with xfce desktop!! cool n simple
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> one second, maybe you need your kernel drivers.  This is just a guess though.
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> kernel headers
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> sorry
[08:27] <n0yd> Could these be a problem?  I'm getting while installing gnome in kubuntu...: ** (process:17177): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[08:27] <salah> it's ok
[08:27] <Mosi> ok guys, this should be easy. why does it tell me i don't have glib 2.0 installed when i try to compile swfdec for flash on PPC? Assuming i really don't have it, where do i get it? it's not in the repos...
[08:27] <volCOM_b0i> I have never had this happen before.
[08:27] <linuxmonkey> cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0) <---i forget what i need to install prior to installing cedega <---anyone know?
[08:27] <Morrowyn> apt-get install x11lib or something like that?
[08:27] <devios> alicia: ajopaul: thanks
[08:28] <alicia> devios: np
[08:28] <Healot> libx11... for the runtime... and libx11-dev for the development
[08:28] <ajopaul> morrowyn: try sudo apt-get install xlibs
[08:28] <Morrowyn> :)
[08:28] <volCOM_b0i> Salah, what processor are you using? AMD?
[08:28] <Morrowyn> not for me, but thanks
[08:28] <salah> no
[08:28] <salah> Intel p4
[08:28] <ajopaul> oh k..
[08:29] <volCOM_b0i> ok type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[08:29] <volCOM_b0i> ok type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[08:29] <volCOM_b0i> the second one.
[08:30] <salah> could not find
[08:30] <aragorn> aragorn
[08:30] <aragorn> hi
[08:31] <randabis> heh
[08:31] <_-H22> hello everyone
[08:31] <salah> it's not finding
[08:31] <randabis> all hail the return of the king
[08:31] <_-H22> could someone help me please?
[08:31] <elkbuntu> randabis, i dont see elvis anywhere, sorry
[08:31] <volCOM_b0i> ok, use synaptic and search kernel headers
[08:31] <volCOM_b0i> see what comes up
[08:31] <luke_> I know I can connect to another linux box via "Connect to server" in the places menu, but what program does it use to mount?
[08:31] <Mosi> j-linux: welcome back, get the files?
[08:31] <luke_> I know it uses ssh, but how?
[08:31] <j-linux> Mosi:  I couldn't find any of those files, but I wrote down the messages that I got.
[08:32] <randabis> elkbuntu, bah
[08:32] <j-linux> I'll post them to pastebin, just a moment.
[08:32] <_-H22> i have a problem with a webcam
[08:32] <ajopaul> salah:  or u cud try this sudo apt-get check linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[08:32] <volCOM_b0i> do you see anything like linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[08:32] <linuxmonkey> help.... i get cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0)  when i try to install it
[08:32] <_-H22> i have a labtec webcam
[08:33] <_-H22> i have followed the procedure on the wiki
[08:33] <volCOM_b0i> thanks ajopaul
[08:33] <_-H22> and i still have my pc frozen when i use it
[08:33] <Healot> and the cam doesn't work, still?
[08:33] <Mosi> j-linux: that's troubling... all three of those should be fairly vital to the functionality of your operating  system
[08:33] <ajopaul> fine :)
[08:34] <Whatsisname> greetings all
[08:34] <salah> no it's not
[08:35] <ppd> hello. how do I enable DGA in dapper?
[08:35] <volCOM_b0i> there is nothing there?  Or is it not installed?
[08:35] <j-linux> Mosi: http://pastebin.com/597522
[08:35] <Gener21839> Anyone mind helping me learn how to compile something I have the source code to?
[08:36] <j-linux> Mosi: the /dev folder had a list of drives in it -- sda sda1 etc...
[08:36] <Half-Left> Gener21839, sure
[08:36] <salah> Linux kernel headers 2.6.10 on 386
[08:36] <salah> i just installit
[08:36] <Whatsisname> gener21839 have you read the INSTALL file in the tar.gz
[08:36] <linuxmonkey> help.... i get cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0)  when i try to install it, any ideas?
[08:36] <Mosi> j-linux: ok, it looks like your harddive is not being found at all
[08:37] <Gener21839> I dont really know much of linux or IRC btw
[08:37] <Mosi> j-linux: do you remember if /dev also had device files named hda1 hda2 etc in it?
[08:37] <Gener21839> just really general and basic stuff
[08:37] <j-linux> Mosi: that sounds very possible... since I moved it.  It it is booting from that drive though
[08:37] <Half-Left> Gener21839, why do you want to compile?
[08:37] <volCOM_b0i> there was no 2.6.9?
[08:37] <j-linux> Mosi:  I don't remember, but I think so.
[08:37] <Gener21839> I'd like to install Emule thats why
[08:37] <Mosi> j-linux: it probably does.... what exactly did you say you did tot he hard drive again?
[08:38] <joachim-n> how do I get nautilus to refresh its scripts folder?
[08:38] <Half-Left> Gener21839, there is no .deb?
[08:38] <joachim-n> oh nm, might be a chmod thing
[08:38] <volCOM_b0i> damn, eh..., I hope it wasn't just his kernel headers missing!!  What a shame.
[08:38] <Gener21839> mind telling me how to chat directly with you half-left?
[08:38] <ajopaul> linuxmonkey: sudo apt-get install xlibs
[08:38] <j-linux> Mosi: I took it from its original spot in my laptop and moved it to an ultrabay adapter (a plastic tray that sits in my laptop's CD/DVD drive slot)... so now I ahve two hard drives... my original one (linux) in the ultrabay, and the windows one (this one) in the regular hard drive slot.
[08:39] <Half-Left> Gener21839, pm me
[08:39] <volCOM_b0i> Have a great night everyone!  Eh, rather depressed after my failed attempt at helping :/ haha
[08:40] <linuxmonkey> ajopaul, Package xlibs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:40] <Whatsisname> gener21839 why don't you try installing xmule instead, its in the apt repository
[08:40] <Mosi> j-linux: was the drive with windows on it installed in the computer prior to the switch?
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> wait, anyone get XGL & COMPIZ running, boy is it beautiful!
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> runs great on my 6600gt!
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> some locks. but still fun
[08:41] <Half-Left> XGL rocks
[08:41] <Whatsisname> is the XGL thing going to be in gnome 2.14 or is it to come later
[08:41] <j-linux> Mosi: I didn't have that drive until today.  I just installed windows this afternoon... was 100% linux for two months, but now have to occasionally boot the other OS :S
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> Isn't that stable, more of a toy right now, imho
[08:42] <Half-Left> Whatsisname, it's not dependent on gnome release
[08:42] <Mosi> j-linux: that sucks :P but off-topic. Is the drive in the uldrabay still marked as the master?
[08:42] <Whatsisname> oh
[08:42] <Whatsisname> hmm I thought gnome was working on a 3d card powered window manager
[08:42] <Half-Left> it works with any window manager
[08:42] <j-linux> Mosi: hmm... I don't know.  How can I tell?
[08:43] <volCOM_b0i> I have only got it working with gnome so far, haven't tried kde or anything yet.
[08:43] <brettzilla> so for some reason, my mouse settings in gnome for motion are set to the lowest levels.. and it doesnt change  a damn thing about my mouse.... any suggestions?
[08:43] <j-linux> Mosi: I didn't do anything to change it.  I just pulled it out, put it in the ultrabay... put the other drive in, and installed windows... then removed the CD drive and replaced it with my original linux hard drive.
[08:43] <Mosi> j-linux: did you play with any jumpers on the physical case on either drive when you were isntalling the new one?
[08:43] <j-linux> Mosi: didn't change anything.
[08:43] <j-linux> Mosi: never done this before... :S
[08:43] <linuxmonkey> is there a way to add something to ubotu
[08:43] <volCOM_b0i> haha xgl and xfce!  That would be sweet!
[08:44] <Gener21839> k I saw xMule, and I just learned how to use the repository better
[08:44] <Half-Left> like I said, ANY windows manager works with XGL
[08:44] <volCOM_b0i> cool
[08:44] <Mosi> j-linux: ok. i can't be sure, but i'm guessing what happened is that you're still booting initially onto the old linux drive, but when it gets to the boot menu and you choose linux, it goes looking for itself by it's old name, and it's probably now /dev/sdb1 or /dev/hda1
[08:45] <Half-Left> GNOME is better because of gconf, thats why it was done first, amoung other things
[08:45] <Mosi> pardon me folks, does anyone know if it's possible to use Cygwin to mount an ext2 partition in windows?
[08:45] <j-linux> Mosi: that sounds likely.  It is saying "sda1 no such device"
[08:45] <volCOM_b0i> Yeah, I only know the gconf way.
[08:45] <Half-Left> for compiz anyway
[08:45] <volCOM_b0i> makes it easy to edit how the window behavior
[08:46] <Half-Left> yer
[08:46] <Mosi> j-linux: yeah, i'd be willing to bet the problem is just that the linux drive has a different device file pointing to it now.
[08:46] <j-linux> Mosi: is there a way to make it look for the new name?
[08:46] <Half-Left> and store info
[08:46] <Whatsisname> Mosi I know there is an ext2 file system driver for windows
[08:46] <volCOM_b0i> Does it crash randomly on you while you are typing sometimes?  That is my problem with it.
[08:46] <Mosi> j-linux: yeah, but i'm not entirely sure what it is just yet. when your computer is booting up and you get to the menu whereyou choose your OS, what does it look like roughly?
[08:47] <Mosi> whatsisname: do you know where to get it?
[08:47] <Whatsisname> have you made sure all your jumpers and stuff are correct
[08:47] <Whatsisname> somewhere on sourceforge, i'll grab a link
[08:47] <Half-Left> volCOM_b0i, crashed once and that was while trying  a some screensaver
[08:47] <j-linux> It gives me a list of about 6 ubuntu options... different kernels and safe modes.. and then one for XP, but I didn't have XP when I did that.  I think there was a bug...
[08:48] <Half-Left> pefectly stable otherwise
[08:48] <Whatsisname> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[08:48] <j-linux> Mosi: I think it looked at my IBM thinkpad 'recovery partition' and thought that it was XP.
[08:48] <volCOM_b0i> I found that it crashes when I am holding SHIFT for capitals
[08:48] <Mosi> j-linux: is the background blue, or black?
[08:48] <Whatsisname> err wait
[08:49] <j-linux> Mosi: black... regular white-on-black terminal (no graphics)
[08:49] <Whatsisname> here http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[08:49] <Mosi> j-linux: does it say either GRUB or Lilo anywhere in the menu or title?
[08:50] <j-linux> Mosi: I think so.  I've done so many linux installs that I can't remember which one I have.  Whatever the standard Breezy bootloader is...
[08:50] <Healot> good luck on those driver, remember that it is still development... might mess with your e2 partition
[08:51] <Mosi> i don't know Lilo very well, but i'm sure it wouldn't be hard to figure out with google... i think Breezy uses GRUB by default, but i don't know because i'm on PPC and PPC uses Yaboot (pain in the ass) :(
[08:51] <Mosi> anyone know what the default boot loader is for Breezy? is it GRUB?
[08:51] <nhaines> Yes, Ubuntu does use GRUB by default.
[08:51] <Mosi> thanks
[08:51] <volCOM_b0i> GRUB
[08:51] <j-linux> nhaines: Grub?  I just looked on google and got this page: http://www.nerdylorrin.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=BootLoader
[08:52] <j-linux> says lilo  (?)
[08:52] <nhaines> It's mistaken.  It does use GRUB by default.
[08:52] <j-linux> But I think I remember it being grub... can't remember
[08:52] <volCOM_b0i> /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:52] <nhaines> Yes, that's the file.
[08:52] <Mosi> j-linux: i'm pretty sure ubuntu uses GRUB, i dunno why that page says not
[08:53] <j-linux> Lots of junk out there on the web...
[08:53] <volCOM_b0i> just search the wiki at ubuntu.
[08:53] <Whatsisname> it uses grub unless you have XFS for your / or /boot partitions i am 99% sure
[08:53] <j-linux> So it must be grub...
[08:54] <volCOM_b0i> My breezy install is.
[08:54] <j-linux> Mosi: do you know how I can get into grub.conf if I can't find the hard drive?
[08:54] <Healot> Grub is recommended and default for ubuntu, but it still allows LIlo to be installed...
[08:54] <Mosi> j-linux: try downloading the ext2 plugin for windows at this link:
[08:54] <Mosi> http://ghisler.fileburst.com/fsplugins/ex2fs.zip
[08:54] <j-linux> Mosi: or, maybe I will have to swap the hard drives, make the changes, and then swap again...
[08:55] <Mosi> j-linux: Windows should have autodetected it, so you can probably get to it no problem
[08:55] <j-linux> Mosi: or boot from an external CD drive and use Knoppix to do it.
[08:55] <volCOM_b0i> i edit my grub by editing, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:55] <Whatsisname> anyone know where one could find some sort of official "feature request" for ubuntu
[08:55] <Mosi> j-linux: your drive should be perfectly accessable, since if it were booting with NTLDR instead of GRUB you wouldn't even get the option to boot into linux, and windows doesn't use GRUB
[08:55] <Healot> Whatsisname: : try its launchpad
[08:55] <Healot> yeah what's th address of "ubuntu";s launchpad site?
[08:55] <joachim-n> can anyone think of a way to get the background-busy pointer to show?
[08:56] <Mosi> it's just liked to the wrong name in GRUB, but it's still there and accessable i'd assume
[08:56] <nhaines> http://launchpad.net/
[08:56] <j-linux> Mosi: I don't have the option to boot linux... I have to go into the bios and change the boot order (but that is another problem to fix later)
[08:56] <matthew> Hi I'm brand new to Ubuntu as of today, can someone help me run Xboard to play chess online?
[08:56] <volCOM_b0i> ohhh. j-linux, did you install windows after you installed linux?
[08:56] <Whatsisname> is xboard installed
[08:56] <Whatsisname> matthew
[08:56] <j-linux> volCOM_b0i: it's not a dual boot -- two separate drives.
[08:56] <matthew> is the best way to install it from the website?
[08:57] <matthew> i didnt see it in the apps list
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> matthew
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> simple
[08:57] <jetscreamer> you need a chess engine as well as xboard
[08:57] <volCOM_b0i> hmm.. I use grub to boot from two different hard disks on my desktop.
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> open a terminal
[08:57] <Healot> nhaines: : the micro site of ubuntu bug report. etc... anyways that's a good hint
[08:57] <Mosi> j-linux: if you have Knoppix, boot into that so we can IRC while you work on it :)
[08:57] <_-H22> could anyone help me with a labtec webcam?
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> type "sudo apt-get update"
[08:57] <_-H22> it freezes my system
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> and then type "sudo apt-get install xboard"
[08:57] <matthew> ok i updated them
[08:57] <jetscreamer> you need a chess engine as well as xboard
[08:57] <j-linux> Mosi: well... I have a knoppix disk with me (always carry one), but I have no more CD drive because I put this ultrabay thing in it :S  I'm at a cafe for the Internet access... :S
[08:58] <TeRaHuRtZ> off course without the the quotes
[08:58] <Mosi> volCOM_b0i you can boot to different drives from one GRUB, but if he put windows on the other drive then it wouldn't have been overwritten by NTLDR, is all
[08:58] <matthew> can i use it without an engine, just to connect to the internet chess club?
[08:58] <nhaines> Healot: well, that's Malon, but it's there too.  :)
[08:58] <jetscreamer> and don't forget the extra pieces
[08:58] <Mosi> j-linux: oh, bummer :(
[08:58] <j-linux> Mosi: I wish I had put puppy linux on my thumb drive..
[08:58] <julian> Hi. Does anyone know where I can find printer drivers for my Canon MP760
[08:58] <volCOM_b0i> yeah, could he reinstall grub to overwrite it?
[08:58] <j-linux> Mosi: if I had a choice to use Knoppix, I would definately be using it right now :)
[08:58] <TeRaHuRtZ> matthew, apt-get install gnuchessx
[08:58] <matthew> matthew@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install xboard
[08:58] <matthew> Reading package lists... Done
[08:58] <matthew> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:58] <matthew> Package xboard is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:58] <matthew> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:58] <matthew> is only available from another source
[08:58] <matthew> E: Package xboard has no installation candidate
[08:59] <volCOM_b0i> or set his linux drive as the master and then edit his menu.list manually for windows?
[08:59] <jetscreamer> must be in universe
[08:59] <Mosi> j-linux: lol, i was wondering. umm.... yeah. go get that plugin for windows. without that we can't get to your grub.conf.
[08:59] <TeRaHuRtZ> matthew, you need to change your apt sources.list then
[08:59] <Madpilot> matthew, pastebin next time!
[08:59] <nhaines> volCOM_b0i: you wouldn't wnat to change the way the drives are set.
[08:59] <Madpilot> !info xboard
[08:59] <ubotu> xboard: (An X Window System Chess Board.), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 4.2.6-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 377 kB, Installed size: 1644 kB
[08:59] <matthew> i dont know how to pastebin :)
[08:59] <Madpilot> !tell matthew about pastebin
[08:59] <TeRaHuRtZ> pastebin.com :)
[08:59] <jetscreamer> !tell matthew -about paste
[08:59] <nhaines> But if he makes the Linux drive bootable, then he can configure GRUB the right way.
[08:59] <j-linux> Mosi: is there a plugin?
[08:59] <Madpilot> !tell matthew about universe
[09:00] <Mosi> j-linux: yeah, i gave you the link. let me find it agian
[09:00] <j-linux> Mosi: sorry I might have missed that part of the conversation
[09:00] <volCOM_b0i> oh, i see, thanks.  I may need that info one day!
[09:00] <Mosi> http://ghisler.fileburst.com/fsplugins/ex2fs.zip
[09:00] <Mosi> j-linux no worries
[09:00] <matthew> so whats my next step?
[09:00] <jetscreamer> crafty is the best chess engine imo, with the medium sized books
[09:00] <matthew> I need to run this in universe?
[09:00] <jetscreamer> enable universe matthew
[09:00] <jetscreamer> no you need to enable universe
[09:00] <j-linux> Mosi: ok got it... will install now.,
[09:00] <KakiPukul> The universe...
[09:01] <matthew> ok i'll try
[09:01] <Mosi> j-linux: ok, let me knwo when it's done
[09:01] <Mosi> does anyone here know if it's possible to mount ext2 filesystems in windows with Cygwin?
[09:01] <transgress_> okay i'm trying to get my wifi card to work in ubuntu... i had the problem with ndiswrapper in breezy, have the same problem using the firmware and fwcutter in dapper, but had it working fine with ndiswrapper in gentoo... it will let me connect to my home router but nowhere else.  it scans and sees stuff fine, but it won't connect.
[09:01] <j-linux> Mosi: what is total commander?  Do I need to download that also?
[09:01] <transgress_> Mosi not sure, but there are windows drivers available to mount them in windows
[09:01] <Whatsisname> Mosi
[09:01] <KakiPukul> transgress: : it works the same in ubuntu...
[09:02] <Whatsisname> just use the ext2 file system driver I linked to
[09:02] <DCCole> how do i unpack tar,bz2 files
[09:02] <Whatsisname> i've used it, it works perfectly
[09:02] <transgress_> KakiPukul what do you mean?
[09:02] <Mosi> j-linux: i'm not sure. i don't use windows, so i've never used that. i got the link on this page: http://www.ghisler.com/plugins.htm
[09:02] <Whatsisname> DCCole: man tar
[09:02] <KakiPukul> DCCole: , bunzip2 filename
[09:02] <Whatsisname> type that command and learn to use tar
[09:02] <DCCole> thanks
[09:02] <j-linux> Mosi: ok... I think I have to download this other shareware program also.. .just a min...
[09:02] <nhaines> KakiPukul: Ubuntu may use different versions of ndiswrapper.
[09:03] <Mosi> j-linux: wait
[09:03] <Mosi> j-linux: i just found the link whatsisname gave me,  try it instead: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[09:03] <transgress_> the big difference i notice with ubuntu and gentoo is that with gentoo, my wifi card power button worked... the light stayed on when i had ndiswrapper loaded... it doesn't in ubuntu... not in breezy or dapper.  and it's two different programs doing it...
[09:03] <julian> does anyone know where I can find additional printer drivers to use with Ubuntu 5.10?
[09:04] <KakiPukul> julian:  www.linuxprinting.org
[09:04] <volCOM_b0i> are you connecting from the command line trans?
[09:04] <DCCole> that doesnt help me any
[09:04] <j-linux> Mosi: wow... I didn't know this existed... downloading now...
[09:04] <transgress_> volCOM_b0i command line, wifi-radar, and the networking applet
[09:04] <julian> KakiPukul Thanks. I'll give it a try
[09:04] <Mosi> j-linux: three cheers for sourceforge :P
[09:05] <volCOM_b0i> iwlist wlan0 scan, iwconfig wlan0 essid (network name), dhclient wlan0.... that is what i do
[09:05] <volCOM_b0i> all SU of course.
[09:05] <KakiPukul> julian: : it is not the ubuntu official drivers. but it may have the latest drivers for some newer printers out here
[09:05] <transgress_> volCOM_b0i i tried that.  dhclient is the only thing that fails.
[09:06] <matthew> ok i'm reloading packages now from universe
[09:06] <cebulon> hi, -:)
[09:06] <nhaines> Hi, cebulon.  :)
[09:06] <volCOM_b0i> ok, when you go to other places, are you shutting down the computer, or suspending it?
[09:07] <transgress_> shutting down
[09:07] <volCOM_b0i> have you tried to ifconfig wlan0 down first?
[09:07] <transgress_> yeah
[09:07] <transgress_> except now it's ifconfig eth1 down
[09:07] <Whatsisname> i thnink i'm going to go bake a pan of lasagna
[09:07] <nhaines> I have a pretty serious problem with my bcm4306 wireless network card using the native drives in Dapper.  Is there an #ubuntu-kernel room or something?
[09:07] <volCOM_b0i> weird, I know I have that problem sometimes when I change networks too, but once i set it back down and start over it connects.
[09:07] <nhaines> I want to get more information so I can maybe file a bug.
[09:08] <transgress_> nhaines what is the problem?
[09:08] <j-linux> Mosi: I'm trying to figure it out... not a straightforward installatoin
[09:08] <cebulon> iam looking into installing Ubuntu 64bit on a TARGA Turion 64 Notebook, any experience here (Touchpad,Wlan,Bluetooth, WEBCam (built in,) TV Card (PCMCIA) )))
[09:08] <nhaines> Basically, the card works perfectly with the bcm43xx module, but when I restart the computer, it never works right.
[09:08] <matthew> i got xboard running!
[09:08] <Mosi> j-linux: i'm working ons tuff overhere, so no hurry
[09:09] <j-linux> Mosi: thanks again for your help...
[09:09] <transgress_> nhaines is it loading the bcm module at boot?
[09:09] <liable> transgress_: so you can ping the router?
[09:09] <volCOM_b0i> Ah, there was just someone here that had the dapper native work too!
[09:09] <damian_> hi
[09:09] <nhaines> Sometimes I can go to network-admin and just set the gateway, but usually I have to do sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo depmod -a; sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[09:09] <transgress_> liable can't ping the router, i can just see it's there.
[09:09] <liable> transgress_: how?
[09:09] <KakiPukul> cebulon: |: Bluetooth and touchpad parts are the easiest... webcam and TVcard are the hardest
[09:09] <transgress_> liable iwlist scanning
[09:10] <damian_> who here can code and wats to help work on what im calling the untimate linux media player basically dont like whats there want ot get the good parts of every player and make the ultimate
[09:10] <nhaines> At which point it doesn't work, but I go into network-admin and set eth0 as the gateway and everything is happy again.  :)
[09:10] <nhaines> I believe it is, transgress, yes.
[09:10] <liable> transgress_: right, so you srentactually connected to it?
[09:10] <cebulon> KakiPukul: still sound s good so far ...
[09:10] <transgress_> liable not here.  i've connected once, but it lost the signal immediately... even though it's a perfect signal throughout her house
[09:11] <squid0> hi guys
[09:11] <liable> transgress_: paste output of ifconfig -a, iwconfig and route to a paster
[09:11] <nhaines> Hi, squid0   :)
[09:11] <liable> transgress_: its an open ap?
[09:11] <KakiPukul> cebulon: because bluetooth and touchpad are mostly configured automatically... webcam and TVcard mostly manually
[09:11] <squid0> i can't log in to ubuntu properly; the monitor seems to crash, or something like that
[09:11] <transgress_> liable i can't atm... i can't get online in linux.  and yes it's an open ap
[09:11] <liable> transgress_: dhclient <iface> fails?
[09:12] <cebulon> KakiPukul: its a DVB-T / ANALOG / FM TUNER Card from TARGA     (PCMCIA)
[09:12] <transgress_> liable yes
[09:12] <squid0> as soon as I log in from gdm, the screen goes black and won't output anything at all until I shutdown completely and then start up again
[09:12] <Mosi> j-linux: no problem :) i took a few years of linux classes at my JC, but i don't have a lot of hands-on experience actually running linux, so i feel like a noob most of the time ^_^. it's nice to be able to use my technical knowledge from time to time.
[09:12] <liable> transgress_: tried setting a static ip?
[09:12] <cebulon> KakiPukul: WEBCAM is a Buil-in one
[09:12] <transgress_> nope but i don't see how that would differ since the one time i did get connected to her it lost the connection
[09:13] <cebulon> KakiPukul: WEBCAM is a built-in one
[09:13] <liable> transgress_: dont guess, know.
[09:13] <liable> jetscreamer: hi :)
[09:13] <KakiPukul> oh... built-in eh,.. I guess more trouble to that :)
[09:13] <transgress_> liable okay well i'ma reboot and try again and i'll see how that goes
[09:13] <nhaines> Well, good news with my network card is that I can just go back to ndiswrapper, but I'd of course be much happier if the native drivers would work.  :)
[09:14] <cebulon> KakiPukul: are there TV Card howto's out there ??   I can look at ???
[09:14] <KakiPukul> cebulon: : you can install TVtime or Zapping TV Viewer... ask the other who has successfully done that...
[09:14] <nhaines> Or, more accurately, I'd really like to help get the native drivers working.
[09:14] <KakiPukul> as I don't own any TVcard
[09:14] <cebulon> KakiPukul: thx
[09:14] <KakiPukul> cebulon: : there a lot out there... and Google isn't so evil
[09:15] <volCOM_b0i> Any suggestions on a better looking IRC than XCHAT?
[09:15] <transgress_> irssi
[09:15] <cebulon> KakiPukul: Google is alwas a last resort
[09:15] <nhaines> Google is a really good first result.
[09:15] <mustard5> cebulon, xawtv is a basic tv app that works well
[09:16] <nhaines> Or, barring that, the Ubuntu forums can be a good first resort.
[09:16] <Mosi> can anyone tell me why the hell tar just decided to write to stdout when i did tar -c /boot?
[09:16] <KakiPukul> ubuntu forums, I think someone discuss about TVtuner here yesterday
[09:16] <cebulon> got that, BTW i am new to Ubuntu, still working with Fedora 4
[09:17] <KakiPukul> just "tar", Mosi?
[09:17] <vladuz976> is there a way to get gnome-terminal in the right-click menu?
[09:17] <volCOM_b0i> thank you trans, i just looked at some screens, that is exactly what I am looking for.
[09:17] <cebulon> maybe Fedora 5 next week <BG>
[09:17] <mustard5> vladuz976, yep
[09:17] <mustard5> vladuz976, I'll just find the package name..
[09:17] <vladuz976> mustard5: would you tell me how?
[09:18] <Mosi> KakiPukul: generates an argument error
[09:18] <mustard5> vladuz976, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[09:18] <vladuz976> mustard5: how does that allow me to edit the menu?
[09:18] <mustard5> vladuz976, you may have to restart nautilus to see it
[09:19] <KakiPukul> should refers to ubuntu's tar manual...
[09:19] <mustard5> vladuz976, it doesnt allow you to edit it, it puts the option in the menu when you install it
[09:19] <cebulon> OK, thx for your help, have to leave for now ...
[09:19] <nhaines> Take care, cebulon.
[09:20] <cebulon> Take care, too
[09:20] <vladuz976> when i install gnome-terminal?
[09:20] <mustard5> vladuz976, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[09:20] <mustard5> vladuz976, read the package name at the end of that line
[09:20] <vladuz976> mustard5: thanks
[09:21] <nhaines> Guten Morgen, meinaeiner.  :)
[09:21] <TeRaHuRtZ> dang, gnuchess engine is hard
[09:22] <meinaeiner> hi nhaines, all
[09:23] <ajopaul> i get this message when i try to run any program as su, its fine if i do it with sudo, wat cud be wrong ???    Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:23] <ajopaul> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:23] <ajopaul> (xfmedia:9493): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:23] <Mosi> KakiPukul: i RTFM first :)
[09:23] <notos> Hi does any one know Why ubuntu Breezey does not detect my network but Debian Sarge Does
[09:23] <notos> im trying to install breezy
[09:24] <j-linux> Anyone know where grub.conf might live?  I can't find it in /etc or /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:24] <nhaines> It's in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:24] <j-linux> nhaines: menu.lst is my grub.conf file?
[09:24] <nhaines> Yes, to edit the grub menu.  :)
[09:24] <mustard5> notos, I have no idea :)
[09:24] <KakiPukul> notos: ubuntu breezy != Debian sarge
[09:24] <mustard5> notos, what type of connection?
[09:25] <Mosi> nhaines: i shoud know that, why don't i? is there another file named grub.conf?
[09:25] <notos> ADSL ... via Ethernet
[09:25] <Mosi> j-linux: did you get your linux drive mounted?
[09:25] <j-linux> Mosi: I got it working... still looking for grub.conf.. :)
[09:25] <notos> im now using Debian sarge
[09:25] <nhaines> mosi: It sounds familiar but I've never needed anything else but menu.lst
[09:26] <mustard5> notos, see if there is anything at this link that is helpful..  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[09:26] <j-linux> Mosi: amazing program... very glad that this exists (read Linux partitions from windows)
[09:26] <mustard5> notos, was it plugged in when you installed?
[09:26] <notos> yep
[09:27] <KakiPukul> for a hardware DSL setup... you might need to enabled DHCP client manually or use dpkg-reconfigure... /etc/network/interfaces file to be exact
[09:27] <mustard5> notos, k
[09:27] <notos> it used to be a bridge but i updated the firmware
[09:27] <Mosi> j-linux: thanks to whatsisname for the link :)
[09:27] <notos> so i can use it as a router
[09:27] <nhaines> mosi: it seems that some distros create /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/grub.conf as links to /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:27] <Mosi> j-linux: i didn't know about it either. really no reason why windows wouldn't be able to do that htough, other than that they're lasy and imperialist
[09:27] <mustard5> notos, hmm that page is pretty sparse now I look at it :)
[09:28] <Mosi> nhaines: that could make sense
[09:29] <j-linux> Mosi: I think Microsoft wants to make it as difficult as possible for people do dual boot, or use other operating system.
[09:29] <Mosi> j-linux: they would. scumbags.
[09:29] <nhaines> I just think that Microsoft doesn't really have any reason to write drivers for other OS's file systems.
[09:29] <robbie_> is there any way to use the numerical keypad on my keyboard as a mouse?
[09:29] <nhaines> And especially not if Open Source and commercial ones exist.  :)
[09:30] <mustard5> robin_, there are keyboard options..I just can't recall them atm
[09:30] <nhaines> robbie_: I think there is a package called mousekeys, you should check the Gnome Accessibility applet.
[09:30] <mustard5> robbie_, see above line to the wrong nick :)
[09:30] <Mosi> nhaines: yeah :P but they're only gonna screw themselves in the end. Some day soon Linux is ginally gonna hit the 'friendly enough for average users' mark, and then there will be no rason to stay with microsoft
[09:30] <j-linux> Mosi: any ideas?  I wonder which file tells Ubuntu what hard drive to look for...
[09:31] <nhaines> But not much reason to go to Linux, either, which is the biggest problem, I think.
[09:31] <Mosi> j-linux: did you not find /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[09:31] <robbie_> aptitude couldnt find anything with mousekeys
[09:31] <Agent_bob> j-linux boot trubble ?
[09:31] <j-linux> Mosi: yeah... I can paste it.  It doesn't seem to have much in it.
[09:31] <nhaines> In any case, that's the time that Microsoft will throw together a extfs driver.  :)
[09:31] <Mosi> nhaines: lack of 400$ licensing fees, superior stability and flexibility, and superior backwards compatability sounds pretty ood to me...
[09:31] <KakiPukul> they don;t have to, nhaines
[09:32] <j-linux> Agent_bob: yes... moved Ubuntu hard drive to a different locaoitn on my computer and now it wont boot.
[09:32] <Mosi> j-linux: the file you're looking for will be small, maybe half a page. can you pastebin it?
[09:32] <Seveas> j-linux, no surprise...
[09:32] <j-linux> Mosi: sure... just a min.
[09:32] <Martolod> is there something special to set in gdmsetup in order to be able to use the "connexion in a nested window" ?
[09:32] <Seveas> j-linux, edit /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:32] <FlannelKing> j-linux: you probably need to change the hdd number in your grub config
[09:32] <Martolod> Gnome tell me that my gdm isn't fine configured
[09:32] <robbie_> linux needs improvement in sound and printing management then I think itll be as easy to use as windows...you got multiple sound & printing systems competing with each other
[09:32] <Seveas> Martolod, you need to install xnest
[09:33] <notos> mustar5, i used to connect that way before
[09:33] <Martolod> Seveas, it's done
[09:33] <FlannelKing> robbie_: isn't that how most FOSS works?
[09:33] <Agent_bob> j-linux you did adjust /etc/fstab to reflect the change, and reinstall grub from the new local (assumes /boot moved also)  ?
[09:33] <robbie_> half of the sound apps are hard coded for one sound system or the other
[09:33] <robbie_> oss or alsa
[09:33] <robbie_> whats foss?
[09:33] <nhaines> mosi: Yes, but with Windows coming with PCs by default is the determining factor.
[09:33] <Martolod> which Xnest
[09:33] <Martolod> /usr/bin/Xnest
[09:33] <Mosi> Agent_bob: we're working on it :)
[09:33] <FlannelKing> robbie_: its the same way with desktop environments, you just don't notice.
[09:33] <brettzilla>  www.exonotion.com/carpc <- my friend is actually talking to me from this right now.. haha
[09:33] <Seveas> Martolod, then gdmflexiserver --xnest should work
[09:34] <FlannelKing> robbie_: Free & Open Source Software
[09:34] <robbie_> yeah true
[09:34] <robbie_> there should be some kind of standards body I think
[09:34] <Mosi> nhaines: computer illiterate grandparents follow the trend. If businesses start using linux widely, vendor will start shipping it. if vendors ship it, it will be cheaper. if it's cheaper, the end-user will start to migrate.
[09:34] <Agent_bob> mosi ok, i'll go back to lunch then ;)
[09:34] <Mosi> Agent_bob: thanks anyways :P
[09:34] <j-linux> Mosi: hmm... looks like more there than I saw.  Notepad (arrgg..) doesn't handle linux line-termination characters. anyway, here it is: http://pastebin.com/597542
[09:35] <robbie_> or some kind of compatability layer between sound & printing systems
[09:35] <KakiPukul> FlannelKing: : sounds like FLOSS, Free, Lame and Open Source Software, nah just kidding...
[09:35] <nhaines> j-linux, DOS edit command can handle Linux endlines.  :)
[09:35] <j-linux> Agent_bob: I didn't do any of that :S
[09:36] <Martolod> Seveas, no it doesn't :( look at that image : http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1156/screenshot14fb.png
[09:36] <j-linux> I downloaded jEdit... will install that later...
[09:36] <nhaines> Mosi: Yes, that's true, but with no support and so many "borrowed" copies of Windows going around, plus a lock on retail software, well, it's more complicated than that.
[09:36] <mustard5> robbie_, try Shift + numlock
[09:36] <FlannelKing> KakiPukul: yes, well, I didn't come up with it ;)
[09:36] <robbie_> worked
[09:36] <mustard5> robbie_, then use the num pad for directions
[09:36] <Ramnath> Im getting an error when i try to unpack winetools
[09:36] <robbie_> thanks for that
[09:36] <mustard5> robbie_, its very slow
[09:36] <mustard5> :)
[09:37] <Ramnath> tar: winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:37] <Seveas> Martolod, interesting - did you mess with gdm.conf manually?
[09:37] <mustard5> robbie_, I had to google it in the end
[09:37] <Martolod> Seveas, no
[09:37] <Ramnath> but it's there on my desktop