[00:00] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, it's obvious that it won't improve it, I want to know if it will be worse than the source...
[00:00] <nosredna_ekim> hey everyone! its Jonathon Riddell's Birthday! everyone go over to #kubuntu-devel and wish him a happy birthday
[00:01] <A|i3N8> ok cool cause i can't find it Nosredna
[00:01] <alwrwr2003> hi all
[00:02] <nosredna_ekim> A|i3N8: http://digitalife.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/using-your-mobile-phone-as-a-gprs-modem-with-ubuntu-linux-via-dku-2-usb-cable/
[00:03] <alwrwr2003> guys how can i run compiz? i've installed all the packages but when i run it it said i have to install compiz-gnome-manager but i got a "break install" note when i request to install it.
[00:03] <Hirvinen> !compiz | alwrwr2003
[00:03] <ubotu> alwrwr2003: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:04] <nosredna_ekim> A|i3N8: http://microdotsagamedev.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/usb-mobile-phone-modem-under-linux/
[00:04] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Here is a better spot: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[00:05] <A|i3N8> Whoa THANK YOU noredna
[00:05] <A|i3N8> nosredna
[00:05] <A|i3N8> hehe
[00:05] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: And now... download and install?
[00:05] <noaXess> how can is see, what type my integrated webcam is? lsusb normally?
[00:05] <A|i3N8> wish i had a printer. lol. Can I save that as text and pull it up in kubuntu??
[00:05] <noaXess> !webcam
[00:05] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:06] <A|i3N8> or do i gotta somehow mount the partition which I've forgotten how to do lol
[00:06] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Yes, but keep the page open as you may need to download some more files
[00:06] <basy> Hi can anybody help, all my X-browsers: Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon freeze downloading of some pages (www.ubunto.com), but text based like w3m and links are ok...
[00:07] <NeoFax> noaXess: lsusb or lspci
[00:07] <nosredna_ekim> A|i3N8: no... you can't mount that partition with vista
[00:07] <NeoFax> basy: Try starting one of them from the CLI to see exactly what your error is.
[00:07] <A|i3N8> so um.. how um.. can i like, .. yea... get the txt file onto linux? lol
[00:08] <nosredna_ekim> A|i3N8: you can probably save it on vista a putll it up with kubuntu though. probably easiest just to write down the essential instructions.
[00:08] <A|i3N8> that's what i jeant lol
[00:08] <A|i3N8> meant
[00:08] <A|i3N8> yea true.
[00:08] <A|i3N8> i'll try to retrieve it first i guess. hehe. Thanks :) Be back to let you know if I got it working
[00:09] <basy> how to strat it throu CLI? plz
[00:09] <basy> from terminal?
[00:09] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: I am sorry... I do not know about apt... was is udep?
[00:09] <sourcemaker> NeoFax:  what is
[00:10] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: That is the deb files that the installer uses to install the kernel.
[00:10] <NeoFax> This is probably the one you want: linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb
[00:12] <alwrwr2003> guys when ever i try to install compiz it shows me a msg that says Broken Packages!
[00:12] <alwrwr2003> what can i do
[00:13] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: sudo aptitude install -f
[00:13] <Dr_willis> then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, then try again..
[00:14] <alwrwr2003> thx Neo i will try
[00:14] <NeoFax> Dr_willis: You shouldn't have to do the update and upgrade.  It should fix itself
[00:14] <Dr_willis> Should.. :)
[00:15] <alwrwr2003> doesn't work :(
[00:15] <alwrwr2003> it shows me this msg
[00:15] <alwrwr2003> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:15] <alwrwr2003>   emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed
[00:15] <alwrwr2003>            Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable
[00:15] <alwrwr2003> E: Broken packages
[00:16] <NeoFax> OK, then sudo aptitude remove emerald and wait for libwnck18 to be put in the repos
[00:16] <basy> Hi, all my X-browsers (Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon) freeze downloading of lots of pages (www.ubuntu.com), and never display full page, but text based browsers works OK, check, plz: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg
[00:16] <alwrwr2003> thx man i will try
[00:16] <NeoFax> basy: Did you run one from the CLI like I said before to see the error?
 how can i run it from CLI, what does it mean plz?
[00:17] <alwrwr2003> i found libwnck22 installed
[00:17] <alwrwr2003> what should i do next?
[00:18] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: sudo aptitude remove libwnck22
[00:18] <killer_> I was told that gutsy had write access to NTFS upon install, but dolphin does not mount the NTFS partition.. any help?
[00:18] <alwrwr2003> removed
[00:19] <alwrwr2003> it ask me to remove compiz and compiz-gnome
[00:19] <alwrwr2003> should i do so?
 i tried this strace konqueror
[00:20] <noaXess> !mouse
[00:20] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[00:20] <killer_> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[00:20] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: which package is required for the firmware? I have installed linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb => /lib/firmware/2.6.24-2-generic: not found
[00:20] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: Yes.  Then install emerald first then install compiz
[00:20] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Use the modules deb
[00:21] <alwrwr2003> ok thx Neo
[00:21] <NeoFax> basy: What was the error?
[00:21] <noaXess> !logitech
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:21] <noaXess> !mx700
[00:21] <fulat2k> hi folks, what's the easiest way to encode xvid/divx files to psp format?  i've tried mencoder, but doesn't seem to be working.
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mx700 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:21] <killer_> !anything
[00:21] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[00:22] <killer_> cool.. they were thinking :)
; and when it feezes there was infinity loop of: select(22, [3 4 5 7 9 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21], [], [], {0, 49505}) = 0 (Timeout)
 but half of page is ok, can you check: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg
[00:24] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: There are a lot of modules...
[00:24] <NeoFax> fulat2k: http://pspvc.sourceforge.net/
 sorry, i'll wait until you help sourcemaker
[00:26] <killer_> in System Settings->Disk&Filesystems  when I click Administrator Mode, I never get administrator mode.. it just goes back to non-admin
[00:26] <dreamcoder> hello
[00:27] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Try: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/
[00:28] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Thank's I will try
[00:28] <NeoFax> basy: I can't help out with strace.  Try doing what I said and open konsole and type firefox > firefox-error.txt &  When it crashes, upload the text file to pastebin
[00:28] <alwrwr2003> Neo i tried to install emerald but i got this msg
[00:28] <alwrwr2003> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:28] <alwrwr2003>   emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed
[00:28] <alwrwr2003>            Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable
[00:28] <alwrwr2003> E: Broken packages
[00:29] <alwrwr2003> i've already installed libwnck22
[00:29] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: Where are you getting emerald from?
[00:29] <alwrwr2003> i just write the command in the terminal sudo apt-get install emerald
[00:29] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: Please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[00:29] <dreamcoder> meryy xmas to everyone! ho ho ho lol
[00:30] <alwrwr2003> sry but what is pastebin?
[00:30] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: It seems to be working...
 ok i'm doing thanx
[00:30] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: http://pastebin.com/
[00:31] <mygoto> hello
[00:31] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: You copy and paste your sources.list there.  It will then spit out a webpage.  Copy the URL and paste here.
[00:32] <killer_> how do I make hald obey users above 1000 UID?
[00:32] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Thanks for helping me .... I rebooting my system now
[00:32] <alwrwr2003> http://pastebin.com/m749480d4
[00:33] <NeoFax> killer_: To mount ntfs do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -L label-for-your-drive-here /media/directory-you-make
[00:33] <alwrwr2003> this is the url
[00:33] <someon1> does anyone know of a software that will allow me to extract numerical data from a graph?
[00:34] <Alchera> g'day receiving (again) this message when i run  ksystemlog >> You do not have sufficient permissions to read '/var/log/syslog' also same with kernel.log
[00:34] <mygoto> anyone try kde4?
[00:34] <Schuenemann> someon1, what kind of graph?
[00:34] <someon1> a 2-d image -- pdf, jpeg, whatever
[00:34] <someon1> I've seen something for Mac OSX (that isnt freeware) while will do exactly this
[00:34] <Schuenemann> huh... I don't think that's possible... or easy
[00:34] <killer_> NeoFax: I'd like to click the /media directory and have it mounted as it is advertised
[00:35] <someon1> you import the image, tell the program what the axis are, and then click on points on the plot
[00:36] <killer_> NeoFax: when I click "system menu" icon next to the K{gear},then click Storage Media the NTFS is already on the list
[00:37] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: Comment out the download.tuxfamily line as you are mixing feisty with gutsy and I would comment out the CD line as well.  Then try installing emerald
[00:37] <alwrwr2003> ok
 i tried ( konqueror > kon.log & ) but kon.log was empty, same with firefox :(
[00:38] <NeoFax> killer_: That is not mounting the system, nor is it write capable as far as I know.  Also, to have the drive to automount you would need to put it into your /etc/fstab file
[00:38] <NeoFax> basy: Try checking out your ~/.xsession-errors file.  Also, is this website flash driven?
[00:39] <killer_> NeoFax: I put it in the fstab, then when I click it in /media  I got an error about something died unexpectedly
[00:39] <killer_> NeoFax: also tried to configure it w/ "sudo systemsettings"
[00:39] <killer_> NeoFax: that did not work either
[00:40] <NeoFax> killer_: try doing sudo mount -a and see what error you get.
[00:41] <alwrwr2003> ok emerald has been installed !! thank u very much Neo ! should i now install compiz??
[00:41] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: Yes
[00:42] <alwrwr2003> ok
[00:42] <killer_> NeoFax: I know I can subvert the kubuntu mounting/system administration and manually get the partition mounted
[00:42] <killer_> NeoFax: my intent is to learn how to teach people over the phone to get past these everyday hurdles
[00:43] <NeoFax> killer_: The point is to get the error.  and rule out mount then solve what the error is.  It just may not be a hal problem
[00:43] <killer_> NeoFax: currently I just ssh into their box and fix things.. but they should be able to fix their own issues
[00:44] <killer_> NeoFax: ok.. try that soon then.. I'm currently googling howto manage hald-storage
[00:45] <johey> Why is freemind not in Gutsy's repository? Do I need to install it manually?
[00:45] <johey> If I remember correctly, freemind was in Feisty's main repo.
[00:45] <alwrwr2003> neo i've installed all the compiz packages
[00:45] <alwrwr2003> how can i run it now?
[00:46] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: Are you in KDE?
[00:46] <alwrwr2003> yes
[00:46] <killer_> !blkid.tab
[00:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blkid.tab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:46] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: compiz --replace & then emerald --replace &
[00:46] <killer_> figures
[00:47] <alwrwr2003> i got this msg when i type compiz --replace
[00:47] <alwrwr2003> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[00:47] <alwrwr2003> No whitelisted driver found
[00:47] <alwrwr2003> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[00:47] <alwrwr2003> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[00:48] <jaylc185> Is there a KDE development environment in kubuntu like there is in knoppix?
[00:48] <basy> I got a lot of => ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.8/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)    inside .xsession-errors, is it OK?
[00:49] <NeoFax> basy: That is fine, as the generic icon will be used.
[00:50] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: What video card do you have?
[00:50] <il12> ok. I have a question of opinion: VMWare or Virt. Box?
[00:50] <alwrwr2003> nVedia 8500
[00:50] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: What driver are you using in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> il12,  install both. :)
[00:50] <Dr_willis> il12,  i find some live cd's and disrtos have issues with one or the other.
[00:51] <il12> Dr_willis: tyvm.
[00:51] <firecrotch> !madwifi
[00:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:51] <il12> is it just apt-get install vmware and apt-get install virtualbox? or..?
[00:51] <alwrwr2003> Section "Device"
[00:51] <alwrwr2003> 	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8500 GT]"
[00:51] <alwrwr2003> 	Driver		"nv"
[00:51] <alwrwr2003> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[00:53] <il12> dr_willis: install vmware and install virtualbox or....?
[00:55] <adrian_> hola
[00:56] <Schuenemann> alwrwr2003, did you install nvidia-glx?
[00:56] <Dr_willis> il12,  install them both....
[00:56] <il12> dr_willis: I am asking as to the app name for the command-line installer
[00:56] <alwrwr2003> no
[00:56] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[00:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[00:56] <Dr_willis> !virtualbox
[00:56] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[00:57] <Schuenemann> alwrwr2003, what happens if you type glxgears?
[00:57] <il12> :( not available for Gutsy..... ok. So I suppose the second one will have to do.
[00:58] <alwrwr2003> i see some gears moving
[00:58] <Schuenemann> moving fast?
[00:58] <alwrwr2003> no
[00:58] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Nice try... but I also have to update the nvidia modules....
[00:58] <alwrwr2003> normal i think
[00:58] <Dr_willis> They are both avail for gutsy
[00:59] <Dr_willis> You just have touse vmwareserver for gutsy :)
[00:59] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Yes, you will have to download that deb as well.
[00:59] <il12> Oh. alright.
[00:59] <il12> TY! haha. doctor knows best. :P
[00:59] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: do sudo dpkg -L | grep nvidia
[01:00] <Schuenemann> alwrwr2003, you might try to change that 'nv' to 'nvidia', I had to do that when I had one
[01:00] <Dr_willis> What one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it.
[01:00] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: There are a lot of problems for just fixing a minor problem with a WLAN card...
[01:00] <dreamcoder> Merry Xmas everyone Night Night ! xxx
[01:00] <killer_> !/media system
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about media system - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <il12> a game.... that's all, for the moment, at any rate. LastChaos by Aeria Games if that makes any difference.
[01:00] <basy> I can't install flash (aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree)=> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, i tried 10 times, why?
[01:00] <alwrwr2003> i got this
[01:00] <alwrwr2003> dpkg-query: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[01:01] <il12> Dr_Willis: what about Qemu? the Ubuntu VMware page says to also consider that program.
[01:02] <killer_> NeoFax: any tips or URLs on how to configure /media mounted filesystems?
[01:02] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: It's like going back to gentoo... doing all yourself...
[01:02] <Dr_willis> ------->   What one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:03] <il12> ok.. do you know which would be best for running a game?
[01:03] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Kinda, but you can use the restricted drivers package from hardy and you should be fine
[01:04] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: OK try with a lower case l
[01:05] <Dr_willis> il12,  for a 3d game.. None of them.
[01:05] <alwrwr2003> sry do u mean i should replace nv with nividia in the xorg.conf?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> il12,  they are designed to run the whole OS. Not individual apps.
[01:05] <il12> Ok, so I suppose I just keep my windows for that then?
[01:05] <alwrwr2003> tried and showed me this
[01:05] <NeoFax> killer_: Check up on hal rules.  That is what actually mounts drives that are not permanently attached
[01:06] <alwrwr2003> ii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu7                  NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[01:06] <il12> I just heard some mention of people playing WoW earlier, so I thought I'd see if I could get LC to work maybe in a similar way.
[01:07] <NeoFax> alwrwr2003: Do you have this package installed along with the nvidia-glx package and xserver-xorg-xgl package?
[01:07] <NeoFax> If so, then yes, just change nv to nvidia.
[01:07] <Dr_willis> il12,  they are running WoW with Wine, or Cedega.
[01:08] <Dr_willis> il12,  Wine is different in what it does from vmware/virtualbox/qemu
[01:08] <Schuenemann> what's so special about cedega?
[01:08] <il12> Dr_willis: I've tried wine, and apparently there is some sort of a security protection measure with LC that won't allow it to be run. I get the error that it is already running on my machine.
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Cedega is wine tweaked out for games. and with a nicer interface
[01:09] <Dr_willis> il12,  whats LC ?
[01:09] <alwrwr2003> i have this installed "xserver-xorg-core" but i can't see xgl .. the "nvidia-glx" is not installed .. should i install it?
[01:09] <il12> LC = LastChaos by Aeria Games
[01:09] <il12> the game. sorry
[01:10] <firecrotch> il12:  Have you installed it multiple times on any computer?
[01:10] <il12> and Cedega is by subscription only so I'll have to pass on that.
[01:10] <killer_> NeoFax: cool.. been googling for that info, "man hald" exposes no config info, kinda sad really
[01:10] <il12> firecrotch: no. it's a free game, just a 400+MB download, install it, download the patches and login.
[01:11] <firecrotch> il12:  Oh, I must have been thinking of some other game then or something
[01:11] <Alchera> okies .. back :) Joyeux Noël
[01:11] <Dr_willis> il12,   You run the game installer with wine and it says the game is allready installed?
[01:11] <il12> firecrotch: np, you had a better idea than I did. I've no idea of what to do or to try. apparently it doesn't do this error on Ubuntu Feisty.
[01:11] <[GhOsT]> is there anyone have/had any problem with usplash/splashy in (k)ubuntu gutsy 7.10 64-bit ?
[01:12] <il12> Dr_willis: no, I attempt to launch the game and it says it is already running.
[01:12] <mani213> whats the best place to get mouse theme?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> il12,  Interesting.. got a URL? ill try it real fast.
[01:13] <sourcemaker> alwrwr2003: it's just have 5,2K --- right?
[01:13] <Schuenemann> mani213, kde-look.org
[01:13] <alwrwr2003> the nvidia-glx is 13 MB
[01:13] <alwrwr2003> i'm downloading it right now
[01:13] <Schuenemann> !nvidia | alwrwr2003
[01:13] <ubotu> alwrwr2003: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <Schuenemann> have you read that?
[01:14] <Alchera> has anyone installed NUT (Network UPS Tools) ?
[01:14] <alwrwr2003> no i didn't
[01:14] <sourcemaker> Schuenemann: I will use the lastest version available... not the current kernel version--- this does not work
[01:14] <il12> dr_willis: http://lastchaos.aeriagames.com/download
[01:14] <Schuenemann> sourcemaker, really? latest version of what?
[01:15] <alwrwr2003> i've installed nvidia-glx now
[01:15] <sourcemaker> Schuenemann: the kernel version... and all it's dependencies
[01:16] <Schuenemann> sourcemaker, how did you set it up?
[01:16] <sourcemaker> Schuenemann: It does not work...
[01:16] <Schuenemann> what doesn't?
[01:16] <il12> dr_willis: this site, however, seems to present a 'crack' that you can use to bypass this 'error'..     http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=9708
[01:17] <sourcemaker> I am sorry... but I will install Gentoo on this system... It's not a option for me for waiting 4 months... for getting the wlan card to work...
[01:18] <killer_> dolphin seems to hide any information that is useful
[01:18] <Dr_willis> il12,  cracks are normally for copy protection. :) id hope a free game has none
[01:18] <killer_> may end up uninstalling it
[01:18] <il12> dr_willis: well, apparently there is a 'cheat protection' which is what gives me the error that says it is already running.
[01:19] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: I resign...
[01:20] <Dr_willis> il12,  dont see how thats cheating really..  every other MMORPG out allows multi instances. :)
[01:20] <mani213> whats the best msn for linux?
[01:20] <Schuenemann> mani213, I think amsn
[01:20] <mani213> any other ones
[01:20] <mani213> i tried amsn wasnt really all that
[01:20] <il12> dr_willis: me neither, it's just what I found on this site: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=9708
[01:20] <Schuenemann> well, at least it's what looks more like M$ msn
[01:20] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: What's wrong now?
[01:21] <il12> dr_willis: it's in the first comment that it explains the issue. *shrug* now I just need to -find- that app.
[01:21] <Schuenemann> mani213, there is also pidgin and kopete, but they are generic IM's and don't look like MSN. Why didn't you like amsn?
[01:21] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: nothing is working... :-) I have installed all the modules... but nvidia is not coming up...
[01:21] <Dr_willis> il12,  yep. Saw that.. no links given to find it. :)
[01:21] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Did you installed the restricted drivers module
[01:21] <mani213> amsn doesnt have the sound when i get a message
[01:21] <mani213> or is it i didnt install the mother board driver yet?
[01:21] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: And for the moment... I think.. I do not understand alle the specifics of ubuntu..
[01:21] <Schuenemann> mani213, it does
[01:22] <Schuenemann> mani213, is your sound working anywhere?
[01:22] <il12> dr_willis: yeah.... but I've no other solution.  G'Night!
[01:23] <alwrwr2003> thank u all for ur help
[01:23] <alwrwr2003> i'm restarting my computer and i will be right back
[01:23] <Schuenemann> mani213, well, I there is sound in preferences.  I can disable most of the annoying things and it has plugins
[01:25] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: It's there any internal documentation available... how Kubuntu works... (technical details)?
[01:25] <killer_> hmm.. hald is looking more like a winbox util,  no known ways to configure it, users are locked out of when thehy shouldn't be
[01:25] <mani213> one more question you know how the mac computers have that shortcut i cons on the dock what do i need to get that for linux
[01:26] <killer_> looks like th best way to run kubuntu gutsy is just to use root as your main login
[01:26] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: I am not interessted in asking stupid questions... without success... maybe I am wrong... and have forgot a important step...
[01:27] <killer_> sorry all for ranting .. but I'm finding kubuntu less useable each distro
[01:27] <killer_> I install a new version, then find I spend hours trying to things I need on a daily basis, that I could do previously
[01:28] <il12> why is the Kubuntu .iso file larger than the Ubuntu .iso file?
[01:30] <il12> ok nvm that's kind of an obvious question.
[01:30] <mani213> whats a good program to get that icon dock for linux?
[01:32] <killer_> anyone know how to configure hald to allow uid 1000 to have access and not be blocked?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> killer_,  ive heard thers some hal/uid1000/mounting some drives issue/bug. but never seen a de-facto reason for it all
[01:35] <Dr_willis> I just mount the things manually :)
[01:36] <killer_> hmm.. possibly could change my user to uid 500 may resolve it
[01:36] <killer_> but I'd actually like to know how to configure it, and not work around it
[01:38] <Dr_willis> im wonder ing if its more of a 'all users cant access it'  1000 is the default initial user.
[01:38] <killer_> Dr_willis: I mount things manually too, but I'm trying to get people to use kubuntu instead of windows, and problems I could solve with a click or two in Mandrake 9.2 seem increasingly impossible w/ kubuntu
[01:38] <Dr_willis> killer_,   i find the problems with 'adding user friendly features' to be the bigger and bigger issue these days.
[01:38] <killer_> I've been using kubuntu as my only workstation since 6.1
[01:39] <Dr_willis> sinve ive not experienced the user1000 hald issue.. i cant really say what the deal is or how to fix it.
[01:39] <killer_> I thought the 'motto' of ubuntu was to make linux useable to the masses.. so I've been promoting it to lots of people
[01:39] <Dr_willis> I imagine theres a 100+ page forume thing is.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> killer_,  one bug does not mean the whole OS is trash.. if thats the case. all of them are Trash.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> i found gutsy to work fine on all my machines. I cant even recall any issues. I did do Clean installs on them all also. Not upgrades
[01:41] <killer_> Dr_willis: no.. it doesn't I still use it dedicatedly.. but win-only users should be able to find answers w/o even calling me, and that hasn't been happeening
[01:41] <killer_> -e
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Im reminded of all the windows-tech support i do at work all day. :)
[01:43] <Dr_willis> But automounting is still 100% better then it was say 2 years ago.. and i imagine it will only getbetter
[01:43] <Breetai> Hi all, I am running gusty on a system where I have loaded the nvidia restricted drivers. How do I get the cool compiz effects?
[01:44] <Breetai> I don't see any way to turn them on or control them.
[01:44] <killer_> Dr_willis: I agree.. don't misinterpret me, I'm not dogging the OS.. I like it alot.. I'm trying to learn the changes of the new gutsy distro
[01:44] <firecrotch> !compiz-fusion
[01:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:46] <Breetai> ubotu: thanks alot.
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks alot. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <killer_> Dr_willis: people say "Im tired of spyware" and tell them to d/l the new kubuntu and install it, call if they have questions
[01:47] <killer_> but I almost never update my workstation, I get it working and use it for 3-5 years
[01:47] <Schuenemann> killer_, just curious, who are these "people"?
[01:47] <killer_> now I find when I get called, I say "do this" and they respond, "I don't see that"
[01:47]  * Dr_willis checks the forums for hal 1000 refused
[01:47] <killer_> customers, cousins, family, strangers who have been pointed to me by others to put onto linux
[01:48] <Dr_willis> and what do i find.. one guy basicially teaching the other the linux fundamentals in a thread.. how to sudo.. how to do this.. argh.. time to start skimming :)
[01:48] <killer_> and I give them all the advice "just do "man <command>" for all the info you need
[01:49] <killer_> now I"m finding more things are missing the man pages
[01:50] <killer_> Dr_willis: yep.. someone saying "sudo dolphin" .. I want to configure the OS to work w/ the user, not configure the USER to work around the OS :)
[01:50] <killer_> Dr_willis: I think very few need ms windows anymore
[01:51] <killer_> most do email, read PDFs browse the web, create documents.. none of which require ms winxp anymore
[01:51] <Dr_willis> Im still not even clear on the EXACT PROBLEM. :)
[01:51] <Dr_willis> they go on about the fstab and stuff.. but hald is whats used by the automounting stuff I thought
[01:52] <killer_> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[01:52] <Dr_willis> an entry in the fstab  makes the automounter ignore it. i thought
[01:52] <Dr_willis> and what/when/where is that message appearing?
[01:52] <killer_> I need hal-storage-mount-all-options to NOT refuse uid 1000
[01:52] <killer_> in dolphin, I click one of the hard disk icons that show up
[01:53] <Dr_willis> and thers no fstab entry for those hard drives? these are removeable or Non remvoeable hds ?
[01:53] <killer_> so I installed gutsy and open storage media, then click an HD, that's as far as I got
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> killer_: modify its settings in systemsettings->advanced->disks and filesystems
[01:53] <killer_> nosrednaekim: that brought me to my second problem. I could not get administrator mode,
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> killer_: what happened.
[01:54] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I had to do sudo systemsettings
[01:54] <Dr_willis> killer_,  ive noticed that in some of the config  apps - the 'administartor mode' button is off the bottom of the screen.
[01:54] <Dr_willis> maxamize the window will make it show up properly
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[01:55] <Dr_willis> I thionk part of that is due to how some of them are 'embeded' in the system settings tool
[01:55] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I click administrator mode, and it goes gray, then goes bright again and never asks for password
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. now thats different. :)
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> killer_: well, running kdesuso systemsettings should work...
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> *kdesudo
[01:57] <killer_> nosrednaekim: yep... I've had to do that in the past, and a logout/login may fix that also, but I'd like to know why it's broke,
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> killer_: don't really know... but lets get back to your disk mounting. can you modify it in that tool?
[01:58] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I quit using windows in 2001 because I got tired of needless logouts and reboots
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> no need for a reboot...
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> or logout.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. all the fix's i see for the uid1000 issue. are basicially 'put a proper entry in the fstab' :)
[01:59] <killer_> nosrednaekim: when I try to modify  the partition settings, it places an entry in fstab that breaks dolphin
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> killer_: how does it break it? what does it say?
[02:00] <wry> havin trouble with adept... more or less can't find anything and I've apparently selected the multi and universe repositories
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> wry: did you press the "reload(or whatever its called)" button
[02:00] <killer_> Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: I don't see an entry for /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab, but it's in dolphin..
[02:00] <wry> yup
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> wry: did you go to adept->manage repositories and check all the options except source code?
[02:01] <wry> I've tried to upgrade too, but it crashes at 50%
[02:01] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I got a "died unexpectedly" message.. sorry for the generic info, but I deleted the fstab entry and was back to the hald uid 1000 issue
[02:01] <wubba> Could someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu?
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> killer_: thats ok.
[02:02] <Dr_willis> killer_,  this is where the automounting stuff differes from the fstab :) if its in fstab.. its not gettting autopmounted any more by hald. Its gettuing mounted by the system at boot.
[02:02] <Dr_willis> OR you can make it where a user can mount it on the fly.
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> killer_: hmm try this "sudo chmod a+w /dev/sda1"
[02:02] <Dr_willis> disk not in fstab, system tryes the hal automounting.. in fstab..hal ignores it. :)
[02:03] <killer_> Dr_willis: but it's not mounted.. that's my problem.. I have no access to the /dev/sda1 data
[02:03] <Dr_willis> but the help/threads i am seeing on this - seem to ignreo that fact.
[02:03] <Dr_willis> right click on it see if theres a mount menu item?
[02:03]  * Dr_willis tries the obvious
[02:03] <Dr_willis> this is an Exteral USB NTFS drive? or what exactly?
[02:04] <wry> had everything but canpnical and sourcecode selected. I was faffin about w it a few days ago though and think I've tried all of 'em
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> wry: and you have the mirror set to the main us one?
[02:05] <killer_> Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: ok. I chmod a+rw /dev/sda1 and and dolphin still won't open it
[02:05] <wry> Nosre: trying it again now... seems to have frozen @ 30%... I'll give it some time
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> killer_: still with the uid1000 error?
[02:06] <killer_> Dr_willis: this is NTFS on main system drive, I have dual boot so I can access mywindows mobile OS phone programs
[02:06] <killer_> nosrednaekim: yep.. still complaining that I"m uid 1000
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> killer_: heh... try this "kdesudo dolphin"
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> and mount it from there
[02:07] <Dr_willis> killer_,  Hmm.. every time ive ever installed Ubuntu. it always puts a entry in the fstab for the IDE/Sata disks.  Could be that IS the issue.. hal isent set to auto-mount those drives. only external/removeable ones.
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> but as a warning, you won't be able to read it anywhere else..
[02:08] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I get a DCOP error from kdesudo dolpin
[02:08] <Dr_willis> for my needs the proper way to mount my ntfs filesystems is to use the ntfs-3g tool and put the proper entrys in fstab.
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> killer_: that shouldn't be fatal.
[02:09] <alwrwr2003> hi guys
[02:09] <killer_> nosrednaekim: aah.. so it wasn't fatal, after clicking OK.. I eventually get a dolphin window
[02:09] <alwrwr2003> the compiz worked fine with me !
[02:09] <alwrwr2003> but how can i use the 3D Box ?
[02:09] <killer_> nosrednaekim: Dr_willis: and as root I have a clickable accessable /dev/sda1
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> alwrwr2003: install the compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:10] <killer_> so the drive can indeed be mounted if I want to be root
[02:10] <alwrwr2003> installed but i didn't know how to use it
[02:10] <killer_> which is the last thing I'm going to tell a newbie to do on the phone
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> alwrwr2003: "ccsm"
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> killer_: yeah. I think that issue was just fixed in hardy
[02:11] <wubba> Could someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | wubba
[02:11] <KkValetekK> hello all
[02:11] <ubotu> wubba: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[02:11] <alwrwr2003> it's worked but what is the shortcut for the 3D box?
[02:11] <gauss_> What is some good software for burning an avi to a DVD so it can be played on a DVD player?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> killer_,  so as root the device automounted>?
[02:11] <KkValetekK> can anybody tell me how do I put a game in fullscreen? (not wine)
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> alwrwr2003: ctrl+alt+arrow keys
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[02:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:12] <killer_> dr_willis yep.. kdesudo dolphin works  as expected
[02:12] <gauss_> ubotu: I for some ungodly reason can't get k9copy to work on my system :(
[02:12] <Dr_willis> killer_,  it could be the device was mounted beforhand BUT when it got mounted by 'root' and that is why the user couldent access it.
[02:12] <alwrwr2003> i see 2 compiz tray icons is that normal?
[02:12] <gauss_> well then.. lol
[02:13] <Dr_willis> prolem with this problem is that i cant get it to even do it on my system so i cant test it. :)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: very probable...
[02:13] <killer_> Dr_willis: "df" showed no mount
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> oh.....
[02:14] <Dr_willis> killer_,  is there some reason you dont mount the filesystems with ntfs-3g at boot time?
[02:14] <Dr_willis> If the user wants full access to the ntfs disks - thats how to do it,.
[02:14] <killer_> Dr_willis: nope.. I think it should be read-only mounted at install w/o asking the user on dual boot machines
[02:15] <Dr_willis> I thought the installer asked where to mount the ntfs/windows disks TO.. if you left the mount point blank. I thouhg it dident mount them at all.
[02:15] <Dr_willis> This may be a diff in the alternaive and Live Cd installer
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> killer_: FYI... you can right click on the device in dolphin->actions->open as root...
[02:15] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  thats scary
[02:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> of course... it'll prompt you for a password
[02:16] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I don't mind open as root if read-only
[02:16] <alwrwr2003> is it normal to see 2 compiz tray icons?
[02:16] <alwrwr2003> how can i cancel 1
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> alwrwr2003: did the cube ork?
[02:16] <killer_> nope I take out "mount as user" and still can't mount
[02:17] <alwrwr2003> well i can use it from inside but i don't know how to use it from outside
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> thats a setting in the settings manager somewhere
[02:18] <gauss_> Does anyone know of any DVD burning software that will burn an avi to player-ready DVD?
[02:18] <Dr_willis> gauss_,  they exist.. but they are not 1 click and its done - sort of things...
[02:18] <Dr_willis> tovid is one.. it also has a guy
[02:19] <Dr_willis> gui :) as an option
[02:19] <Dr_willis> but it dident work properly for me the other day
[02:19] <alwrwr2003> ok i see 2 compiz icons tray is this normal?
[02:19] <BluesKaj> gauss_, check the dvdplayer for the divx logo, it may not be necessary to recode the avi files, most are divx or xvid now.
[02:20] <gauss_> sweet, thanks
[02:20] <BluesKaj> I recently discovered that fact about my elcheapo koss player
[02:20] <Dr_willis> k3b  has some neat features that i have never used.. :)
[02:20] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  been wanting to get one of those also.. but too cheap
[02:21] <Arwen> I've got a problem with my virtual consoles. When I switch to them, I just get a flashing cursor.
[02:21] <BluesKaj> 100$ Dr_willis
[02:21] <Dr_willis> whats an emovixdvd anyway :) k3b has that. never seen that befor
[02:21] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  that will make like 6 the # of dvd players i got around here. :)
[02:22] <Dr_willis> waiting for the dvd plyares that can also work as UpNP clients. :)
[02:22] <killer_> Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: brb.. gonna do a relogin to see if it fixes the administrator mode
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: which ones? f1-6?
[02:22] <Arwen> yeah
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: you using ATI?
[02:23] <Arwen> yes
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> yeah... its a problem with ATI's...
[02:23] <BluesKaj> gauss_,  make sure you choose the dvd data option when burning avi files due to the fact that K3B balks at avi files in general , silly but true
[02:23] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, is there a remedy?
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: don't remember... probably. search google for it
[02:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm  - I only burn dvd data.. :) never really noticed the other features till now
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, yeah, we're on our 4th dvdp , but so far this one has outlasted the others : )
[02:27] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  we bought like 5 2 yrs ago for $20 a pop.. of course they wouldent play a large # of comercial dvds sadly
[02:27] <Dr_willis> Cool. K3b can do emovix - making a live cd that plays video files.. heh
[02:28] <killer_> nosrednaekim: ok a relogin fixed administrator mode, and I now have dolphin access to read-only /dev/sda1
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> even without being root?
[02:28] <killer_> I think that's because I did an OEM install, and created my user afterwords
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> possibly..
[02:29] <nonewmsgs> how do you run a .bat file with wine
[02:29] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I configured the /media/sda1 mount in system settings-> disk&filesystems, then just open dolphin as a regular user
[02:29] <killer_> also set it to mount at boot time
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> killer_: cool :D... so everything is good now?
[02:32] <wry> nosrednaekim: I tried the main srver, it stalled at 30%. I wen away and came back. Seemed to be done but still no results for my searches. Trying the Australian server now and it's stopped at 30% again
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> wry: thats weird.
[02:33] <Arwen> gah, I need my consokles
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: it has something to do with the fglrx driver and the framebuffer driver
[02:33] <Arwen> not using fglrx
[02:33] <wry> nosrednaekim: your tellin me! You know where I can get another apt frontend like syaptic or the like?
[02:34] <killer_> nosrednaekim: well
[02:34] <ticat85> hey, can anyone give me a bit of advice on installing from tar files using Kinstaller?
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> wry: well, if "apt-get update" doesn't work from the commandline, nothing will.
[02:34] <killer_> nosrednaekim: I'd like to know how to administrate hald, but that can wait for another day I suppose
[02:35] <killer_> nosrednaekim: how bout "sudo apt-get update"
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> killer_: heh, yeah... that'd probably get ver complicated :D
[02:35] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, I'm not using fglrx, so do you have any other idea what might be wrong?
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> killer_: come to think of it.... yes, that would work a bit better...
[02:35] <BluesKaj> ticat85, kinstaller?
[02:35] <ticat85> yes, Kinstaller
[02:36] <ticat85> running into some ./configure error
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: oh! hmmm. no I don't, though I think I heard tell of that happening with the OSS driver too. again, search google
[02:37] <Arwen> yeah, I did, only hearing about fglrx...
[02:37] <BluesKaj> ticat85, some tar files don't have the configure or even make files
[02:38] <ticat85> :| humm, well I'm all new to this - installed Kubuntu all of 3 days ago - I wasn't aware of this
[02:38] <ticat85> any ideas for installing some files for Sopcast or Gamefu?
[02:39] <roberts> how do i get HD Intel Audio working on feisty 7.04?
[02:39] <BluesKaj> ticat85, which app are you trying to install ?
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> !sound | roberts
[02:39] <ubotu> roberts: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:40] <wry> nosrednaekim: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[02:40] <ticat85> BluesKaj, I'm trying to install the Sopcast (P2P Tv client) and Gamefu (multi-emulator frontend)
[02:40] <wry> nosrednaekim: that'd be the problem, yaeh?
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> wry: thats very odd! switch to the US columbia mirror since I know that one works(i use it)
[02:40] <arrrghhh> i can't figure out how to get ls to list everything page by page - i read the man file for ls, there's nothing in there that mentions sectioning out results...
[02:40] <roberts> right, the sound system is running
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> arrrghhh: you may want du..
[02:41] <wry> nosrednaekim: in the command line I assume?
[02:41] <ticat85> BluesKaj, or more specifically: Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> wry: no... in adept
[02:41] <arrrghhh> well in windows, dir /p did the job.
[02:41] <BluesKaj> sorry ticat85 , dunnno anything about game apps, and not familiar with Sopcast
[02:42] <arrrghhh> nosrednaekim: du is for file sizes and essentially the footprint of that directory on your hdd... am i wrong?
[02:42] <ticat85> BluesKaj, well how about this: how would you normally go about installing any program from a downloaded TAR file without the configure file included
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> arrrghhh: no... but it does preint them out kinda by page (DIR by DIR)
[02:43] <arrrghhh> der you have to pipe it... ls ~ more
[02:43] <arrrghhh> well not tilde but the straight line (for pipe)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> ls | more
[02:43] <arrrghhh> ja... that's the one.  someone in the linux channel suggested it.
[02:44] <Dr_willis> Bash Basics :)
[02:44] <BluesKaj> ticat85, right click on the tar files and choose properties , click the permissions tab and check 'is executable' box before trying to install those files
[02:44] <arrrghhh> yea, i just figured it would be a switch from the man ls, like ls -p or something
[02:44] <arrrghhh> kinda counter-intuitive if you ask me, having to pipe it but whatever that works.
[02:45] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,  i find it VERY VERY intuituve
[02:45] <ticat85> BluesKaj, what would this accomplish in the long run? sorry I just want to know the basics... as I said, new to this
[02:45] <wry> nosrednaekim: still stalling at 30%
[02:45] <BluesKaj> ticat85, I've run into that prob myself and have yet to find the answer
[02:45] <Dr_willis> expecting every program to have its own pageing feture is  counter-productive
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> wry: which one is it stalling on?
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> universe?security?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> ticat85, there are ppl here who know
[02:46] <wry> nosrednaekim: am I to assume that I've just got a dodgey distro?
[02:46] <arrrghhh> Dr_willis: i see what you're saying, i am not used to piping output on the cli... new concept to me.  old habits die hard.
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> wry: probably not.
[02:46] <ticat85> BluesKaj, well if anyone does know :) please chime in anytime now! anyone? please?:(
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> wry: probably just a bad sources.list.... are you running gutsy?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,  try          alias lm = 'ls | more'
[02:46] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, how does one install tar files that don't contain configure , make make install
[02:47] <Dr_willis> hmm thats not ruight.. lets see
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ouch.... with some fancy gcc stuff, but i'm not a C person.
[02:47] <wry> nosrednaekim: cc.columbia.edu
[02:47] <arrrghhh> i think i can remember to pipe the output... i just need to get used to the bash.
[02:47] <flaccid> BluesKaj: reading the doco provided with the program
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> wry: and...
[02:47] <flaccid> or in the archive eg. README, INSTALL
[02:47] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,  try          alias lm='ls | more'
[02:48] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,  heh heh i got all sorts of little scripts/aliases for tasks like that
[02:48] <wry> nosrednaekim: stoppin at 30%
[02:48] <IAmWill> anyone know how to get "MCP51 High Definition Audio" working??
[02:48] <BluesKaj> flaccid, that's a pretty glib answer there areno install readmes with some of the files
[02:48] <arrrghhh> yea, i've written some bash scripts to like remove all .torrent files from my desktop etc, but the whole piping output is a new concept to me.
[02:48] <flaccid> BluesKaj: yeah thats the fault of the packager/maintainer. what are you trying to install?
[02:48] <IAmWill> ARTS is running, but no sound
[02:48] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,  linux is like 'layers of legos' :) rember that.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> Not Like an Onion.. :P
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> IAmWill- are you using digital output?
[02:49] <arrrghhh> Dr_willis: certainly... i do like having choices, i just wish they included that little tid-bit in the ls man page...
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> wry: what the line its stalling on? pate it here
[02:49] <IAmWill> Dragnslcr, its a laptop
[02:49] <flaccid> there might be a binary installer in there BluesKaj who knows
[02:49] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,  its not an ls feature, or issue at all. :)
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> IAmWill- check all of the channels in alsamixer and kmix, make sure none of them are muted
[02:50] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,  should they also mention, sort, and sed, and awk, and tail, and........ :)
[02:50] <BluesKaj> ticat85 is trying to install install Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz
[02:50] <ticat85> BluesKaj, the Gamefu tar file includes a: CMakeLists.txt, Copying, Design, Install, Readme files
[02:50] <Dr_willis> arrrghhh,   Joys of Linux FUNdaMENTALS :)
[02:50] <ticat85> blueskaj, as well as a Makefile.am
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> oh! cmake!
[02:50] <flaccid> ticat85: what is that and where did you get it from
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> ticat85: read that "Install" file
[02:51] <flaccid> ticat85: as advised read the install and readme files
[02:51] <ticat85> flaccid, Gamefu-0.2.beta1-source.tar.gz
[02:51] <arrrghhh> ok, ls lists files right?  wouldn't you thinhk the ls man file would include directions on how to list files line-by-line or in a manner that you can flip through them?  i can't find the words to describe that...
[02:51] <ticat85> flaccid, will do... ill remain on the channel :)
[02:51] <ticat85> i also have another question though involving mythTV
[02:51] <wry> nosrednaekim: there aint no line. Just says 30% down the bottom. Nothing at all written above it
[02:51] <IAmWill> Dragnslcr, nothing is muted
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> wry: this is on the command line?
[02:52] <wry> nosrednaekim: in adept
[02:52] <flaccid> !ask | ticat85
[02:52] <ubotu> ticat85: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> wry: ah... kill adept and run "sudo apt-get update" from the command line. and paste the line it stalls on
[02:52] <BluesKaj> well, i was trying to install FF 3 beta 2 , but it has no configure. make , or makeinstall files the readmes aren't at all helpfull...no instructins
[02:52] <ticat85> flaccid, the install file seems to be saying something i was missing :(
[02:53] <flaccid> cool ticat85. yeah INSTALL and README are pretty standard for instructions :)
[02:53] <ticat85> haha, alright - in MythTV i am having trouble with my videocard
[02:53] <ticat85> err
[02:53] <ticat85> capture card
[02:53]  * flaccid dislikes no instructions
[02:53] <ticat85> averTV model, fairly old
[02:53] <flaccid> !capture
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capture - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <wry> nosrednaekim: k.. hang on
[02:53] <anon32> anyone know how I can make Konversation stop flashing my taskbar whenever someone says anything?
[02:53] <flaccid> i think there is a support list somwhere
[02:54] <BluesKaj> ticat85, you might consider TVtime
[02:54] <flaccid> anon32: i think its in settings | configure notifications
[02:54] <ticat85> BluesKaj, tried it - it only recognizes my USB webcam
[02:54] <flaccid> !mythtv | ticat85
[02:54] <ubotu> ticat85: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[02:55] <BluesKaj> ok ticat85
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> anon32: in settings->configure konversation->behavior->general
[02:55] <flaccid> ticat85: only thing else to check is google. your card is probably not supported perhaps
[02:55] <flaccid> also check dmesg and logs to see how the system treats the device
[02:55] <BluesKaj> mythtv is a bit daunting for ppl new to linux
[02:55] <flaccid> hopefully mythtv is easier now that they have fixed the package
[02:55] <ticat85> flaccid / BluesKaj, *sigh* I hate learning curves, kk ill check it out
[02:55] <anon32> nosrednaekim, not seeing it
[02:56] <ticat85> it recognizes the device as dev/video1, my webcam as dev/video0
[02:56] <Dragnslcr> anon32- it might be under Configure Notifications
[02:56] <ticat85> so why TVtime only sees dev/video0 is beyond me
[02:56] <anon32> Dragnslcr, yeah, but according to that, all my notifications are off
[02:57] <ticat85> BluesKaj, TVtime will not let me change my video source in the menu :(
[02:57] <flaccid> anon32: must be somewhere else sorry. not sure where
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> anon32- I would guess that it's Configure Notifications -> New message arrived on a channel
[02:58] <BluesKaj> composite 1 -2 etc ?
[02:58] <anon32> *shrug* ah well, now back to my framebuffer. Hmm.
[02:58] <flaccid> see man tvtime to see how to specify a different device maybe it has a switch
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> anon32: its in there right whee I said..
[02:59] <flaccid> i think its tvtime --device=/dev/video1
[02:59] <flaccid> there might be a tvtime-configure binary as well
[02:59] <ticat85> flaccid, ill try that right now
[03:00] <ticat85> flaccid, it wooooork! success!
[03:00] <ticat85> now only if my grammar worked :(
[03:01] <flaccid> hehe sweet
[03:01] <ticat85> flaccid, now why doesn't it work with mythTV?
[03:01] <flaccid> not sure, i aint used that beast in ages
[03:02] <BluesKaj> beast is a true term for it
[03:02] <ticat85> flaccid, is there a way to permanently keep dev/video1 as the device for TVtime
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> 'night everyone
[03:02] <BluesKaj> night mike
[03:02] <ticat85> I restarted the program and its back as dev/video0 is the source
[03:03] <flaccid> ticat85: yeah via configuration iirc
[03:03] <ticat85> flaccid, say configawhatnow?
[03:04] <flaccid> um it uses xml config files iirc. but i can't remember how to use them. google says lots..
[03:04] <ticat85> flaccid, is it a file I can find via dolphin?
[03:04] <flaccid> ticat85: have a look in ~/.tvtime
[03:05] <ticat85> flaccid, and that would be...? in the root somewhere
[03:05] <ticat85> again, new, normally I'd be "PROGRAM FILES" but alas, no windows
[03:06] <flaccid> um ~ stands for home
[03:06] <flaccid> its a real location. not sure how to get to address bar in dolphin sorry..
[03:07] <ticat85> hmm
[03:07] <ticat85> says "no such file or directory"
[03:07] <flaccid> were you running tvtime under root or normal user
[03:07] <ticat85> tvtime.xml?
[03:07] <flaccid> yes
[03:07] <ticat85> found it :)
[03:07] <flaccid> i'd say so. still you probably havnt googled yet
[03:08] <ticat85> nadda, been looking for the file... now that I have it
[03:08] <flaccid> well i got a tvtuner inbuilt to this notebook so i'll install tvtime
[03:09] <ticat85> open with Kate or Kwrite?
[03:09] <flaccid> any text editor. not there is a bug and i just got it! ~/.local/share/application
[03:09] <flaccid> oops
[03:09] <flaccid> i mean look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612500
[03:10] <flaccid> might need to do a sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami` ~/.tvtime
[03:10] <jaylc185> Hey I installed kdevelop 3.5 but I don't know how to make it, i want to program in perl and C/C++, can anyone help?
[03:11] <ticat85> damn, i needed to edit as root
[03:11] <ticat85> this root thing is really annoying :(
[03:11] <Dr_willis> ticat85,  untill it saves your backside
[03:11] <flaccid> incorrect. read the above thread which makes the ownership of the config under root when it shouldn't
[03:11] <flaccid> once you know how to use root/sudo and when not to use it etc. there is no frustration
[03:12] <ticat85> i know sudo bash :)
[03:12] <Dr_willis> If the file is not in your home dir.. you need to edit/change it as root.. :)
[03:12] <flaccid> thats not a command you should run
[03:12] <Dr_willis> sytem wide chabnges neesd root.
[03:12] <ticat85> really? but its so handy
[03:12] <flaccid> well i wouldn't say system wide, i'd say files that require root perms
[03:12] <Dr_willis> using root  when you dont need to or making root shells like that and foreggint them.. can cause problems
[03:12] <flaccid> ticat85: its not handy. please read !root
[03:12] <dthacker> sudo is good.  sudo will save your posterior
[03:13] <Vorian> sudo thank you dthacker
[03:13] <Vorian> :)
[03:13] <ticat85> why can't I just be root all the time? like administrator
[03:13] <dthacker> :0
[03:13] <flaccid> ticat85: because that would be insecure
[03:13] <Vorian> ticat85, why would you want or need to do that?
[03:13] <ardchoille> ticat85: Because one mistake and you system is gone
[03:14] <ardchoille> !sudo
[03:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:14] <ticat85> hmm I'll take your multi-words for it :|
[03:14] <flaccid> an application has a bug that removes files that should be protected for example
[03:14] <Vorian> ticat85, :) good choice
[03:14] <ticat85> flaccid, I've changed:   <option name="V4LDevice" value="/dev/video1"/>
[03:14] <ticat85> but now when TVtime comes up i get a grainy green screen
[03:14] <flaccid> think about why windows was considered totally insecure prior to NT and firewall. there was only 1 user which could do anything.
[03:14] <dthacker> ticat85: I suspect most of us like sudo because we've done something silly and costly as root.
[03:15] <Dr_willis> one TYPO with rm -rf    as root = gone system :)
[03:15] <ticat85> flaccid, nvm now it's okay :|
[03:15] <ardchoille> Right
[03:16] <flaccid> ticat85: here is some good info/guide: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/usage.html
[03:16] <ticat85> flaccid, ty I will definatly book mark that as of now :)
[03:17] <flaccid> cool
[03:17] <ticat85> flaccid, now I'm working on my previous install from tar problem
[03:17] <flaccid> tvtime does rock besides that stupid bug
[03:17] <flaccid> well im going to find an antennae so i can see something in tvtime heh
[03:17] <ticat85> does anyone have good/bad things to say about Fiire?
[03:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, tvtime is much easier to setup in the later distros , dapper was terrible ...much better now
[03:20] <BluesKaj> well, sacktime for me ...lots to do tomorrow , no more procrastination ,it'll be Christmas Eve...Merry Christmas to all & to all a good night :)
[03:22] <Dr_willis> I gotta go shopping! egads!
[03:22] <ticat85> Dr_willis, well you better hope you have Monday off then :|
[03:22] <Dr_willis> i got the week off. :)
[03:23] <ticat85> same here, only week of vacation this year though :(
[03:23] <Dr_willis> we may have a down week Jan 11-18th.
[03:23] <ticat85> wtf the install file says i need a "Autoconf" program to make my configure file :(
[03:23] <Dr_willis> But Nooo.. they couldnet have it right after our vacation week. :)
[03:24] <flaccid> !info autoconf
[03:24] <ubotu> autoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.61-4 (gutsy), package size 437 kB, installed size 1676 kB
[03:24] <ticat85> blah :( why can't things just be uniform when installing files, like using adapt
[03:24] <flaccid> ticat85: install the package build-essential
[03:24] <flaccid> !compile | ticat85
[03:24] <ubotu> ticat85: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[03:24] <Dr_willis> If you want to use source.. you need to learn to use source.. :)
[03:24] <flaccid> ticat85: because people make programs differently. you are compiling source code.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> compiling from source is a whole lot better then it used to be at least.
[03:25] <ticat85> can't it come pre-complied in a nice little bowed package?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> what are you even compiling?
[03:25] <BenjaminD> hello. when i install a tar ball, in what folder should i keep the extracted files?
[03:25] <flaccid> ticat85: yes it can. is it available, did you check?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> BenjaminD,  depends on what it is.
[03:25] <ticat85> nah, these were the files given on the websites
[03:25] <BenjaminD> beryl
[03:26] <BenjaminD> but as a general rule?
[03:26] <ticat85> i think they are windows ports made by someone
[03:26] <Dr_willis> BenjaminD,  why not just install compiz?
[03:26] <flaccid> ticat85: yeah so the devs have not packaged for debian/ubuntu
[03:26] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[03:26] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:26] <ticat85> No autoconf in my adept installer :(!
[03:26] <Dr_willis> BenjaminD,  a properly done source archive wll uncompress to its own directory.
[03:26] <BenjaminD> compiz put a white border around my menu's
[03:26] <flaccid> !repos | ticat85
[03:26] <ubotu> ticat85: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:27] <flaccid> !adept | ticat85
[03:27] <Dr_willis> you may want to make a 'workspace' dir to put them in.
[03:27] <ubotu> ticat85: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:27] <BenjaminD> /workspace/
[03:27] <Dr_willis> BenjaminD,  try some other compiz themes perhaps. From what i gather beryl is dead.
[03:27] <flaccid> ticat85: need to install the relevant repos first. please read the links
[03:27] <BenjaminD> it is
[03:27] <BenjaminD> but i still like it
[03:27] <ticat85> kk i will... so much reading to do :(
[03:27] <flaccid> yeah half of nix is reading sometimes
[03:28] <makuseru> hi, in pidgin, when im a direcrly connected to people, and they send me pictures, or i send pictures, part of the picture will display then the rest will just be black. what causes this and how can i fix it?
[03:28] <Dr_willis> other half is rembering where ya saw somthing - so you can go back and reread it.
[03:28] <flaccid> makuseru: not sure try #pidgin or #gaim and or submit a bug via !bugs
[03:28] <ticat85> in the adept manager what is the "build-essentials" package called?
[03:28] <Dr_willis> 'build-essential'
[03:28] <ticat85> nvm
[03:28] <ticat85> found it
[03:29] <flaccid> yeah i guess i just bookmark hectic in opera, but i fail to categorise the bookmarks - at least you can search em in opera quickly
[03:29] <ticat85> overlooked it *doh*
[03:29] <flaccid> hehe
[03:29] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:29] <makuseru> flaccid: there all dead in there
[03:29] <flaccid> i like to encourage desktop users to use the graphical package manager hahah
[03:29] <ticat85> can you tell im new? :( *sigh* how long till I get good at Linux?
[03:29] <flaccid> makuseru: might have to try over a period of days
[03:29] <flaccid> ticat85: not very long you are already on the path
[03:29] <Dr_willis> !training
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about training - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <ardchoille> ticat85: That depends on how much you read and how fast you learn :)
[03:30] <il12> can anyone recommend a good .iso burner for Linux?
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Bummer
[03:30] <Dr_willis> il12,  k3b can do that.
[03:30] <flaccid> !info k3b | il12
[03:30] <ubotu> il12: k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4916 kB, installed size 9436 kB
[03:30] <ticat85> well... i have a week to read
[03:30] <ticat85> so no one has comments on Fiire products?
[03:30] <il12> Whoot, ty.
[03:30] <ticat85> i was thinking about getting the FiireEngine :S
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Fiire? never heard of them
[03:30] <flaccid> never heard of fiire
[03:30] <ticat85> Linux MCE pre-packaged systems
[03:30] <Schuenemann> it burns if you touch it
[03:30] <ticat85> they have a neat VESA mounted pc thing
[03:30] <flaccid> mce ?
[03:31]  * Dr_willis is lost..
[03:31] <ticat85> Media Centre Edition... its a port of Kubuntu
[03:31] <flaccid> sounds commercial
[03:31] <Dr_willis> I just use MythTV
[03:31] <Schuenemann> you have a capture card?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> Hauppage PVR 150
[03:31] <ticat85> www.linuxmce.com
[03:31] <Arwen> wtf, I get a blue square when trying to watch any video in Gutsy
[03:31] <flaccid> i just use my 24inch monitor with HD heh
[03:31] <Arwen> and no, there's no compiz going on
[03:32] <ticat85> www.fiire.com
[03:32] <Schuenemann> Arwen, any error in konsole?
[03:32] <Arwen> no
[03:32] <ticat85> flaccid, so now I have the build-essentials what did that solve?
[03:32] <Schuenemann> maybe the video is a blue square?
[03:32] <Arwen> god, 7.10 is a whole box of nightmares
[03:32] <Dr_willis> build-essential installs the core essential packages needed to compile stuff
[03:33] <flaccid> ticat85: well if you read any of the articles we told you to read, it gives you the build suite (including autoconf)
[03:33] <ticat85> flaccid, readddding :( fine
[03:33] <flaccid> hehe
[03:34] <flaccid> in your case autoconf was obviously a dep to compile the program. ubuntu by default does not come with build-essential installed which has the compilers and so forth - people dont need them by default
[03:34] <flaccid> !find mce
[03:34] <ubotu> Found: mce-dev, mcelog, tinymce, tinymce-doc
[03:34] <flaccid> !info mce-dev
[03:34] <ubotu> mce-dev: development files for mce. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.6 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 196 kB
[03:34] <flaccid> !info mce
[03:34] <ubotu> Package mce does not exist in gutsy
[03:34] <flaccid> sorry.
[03:36] <ticat85> nice... autoconf is on its way installing
[03:36] <ticat85> flaccid, and everyone, thanks for your help by the way
[03:36] <ticat85> it's great having some random strangers to ask questions to
[03:36] <il12> yayyy I am on my way to burning Kubuntu onto a disc then I get to install it on my external
[03:36] <flaccid> sweet as ticat85
[03:37]  * flaccid has to install windows laterr *cringes*
[03:37]  * dthacker sympathizes with flaccid
[03:38] <il12> Flaccid: my cousin installed Ubuntu onto his internal HDD (of which he has three, two main ones), and accidentally wiped out his windows OS so now he has to go and get a new CD for it.
[03:38] <flaccid> ouchy
[03:38] <flaccid> i just need it for ableton live
[03:38] <ticat85> flaccid, so ive done autoconf... but when i type autoconf into the shell, i cant create files... do i need to be root for this?
[03:40] <flaccid> ticat85: why would you type the command? you just follow the instructions in the INSTALL and the scripts will use autoconf..
[03:41] <ticat85> flaccid,  i have followed the instructions... but i still have no ./configure
[03:41] <ticat85> can i send you the install file?
[03:42] <flaccid> ticat85: you can pastebin the install file
[03:42] <Dr_willis> typical installing from source  setup..
[03:42] <Dr_willis> tar xzvf whatever.tar.gz
[03:42] <Dr_willis> cd whateverdiritmade
[03:42] <Dr_willis> ./configure
[03:42] <flaccid> like the de facto standard for source is configure, make, make install but thats just the de facto method, it could be anything as per the INSTALL
[03:43] <ticat85> OoOoOoOo....
[03:43] <ticat85> kk ill try that
[03:43] <Dr_willis> Then after ./configure does it thing. You do 'make' and 'make install'
[03:43] <Dr_willis> let me guess.. ya dident cd to the dir?
[03:43] <ticat85> no im in the dir
[03:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:43] <ticat85> it's unzipped
[03:43] <ticat85> still can't ./configure
[03:43] <Dr_willis> what is this you are trying to compile anyway? got a URL?
[03:44] <ticat85> Gamefu-0.2
[03:44] <ticat85> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/
[03:44] <navetz> how do i get vmware server
[03:44] <ticat85> and ill have to do this for an N64 emulator whatever that one is for linux
[03:45] <Dr_willis> !vmwarew
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmwarew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[03:45] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:45] <Dr_willis> download the packages frm the vmware web site. get a free serial # from them.. install :)
[03:45] <flaccid> !find gamefu
[03:45] <ubotu> Package/file gamefu does not exist in gutsy
[03:45] <ticat85> it's called Kamefu... comes with feisty
[03:46] <ticat85> but its an older version
[03:46] <flaccid> where is the pastebin of the INSTALL
[03:46] <ticat85> doesn't allow me to configure my joystick
[03:46] <flaccid> ticat85: there appears to be a debian package already http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Gamefu?content=36846&PHPSESSID=aea0c494598a28c66cc6ad7d584f79d9
[03:47] <ticat85> woot :)
[03:47] <ticat85> humm
[03:47] <flaccid> if thats the same thing you want, you don't have to build anything just install the .deb via adept or apt
[03:47] <ticat85> it's still the Kamefu
[03:47] <flaccid> well i don't know about the project ticat85
[03:47] <ticat85> ive tried that one... i wanted the newer version :(
[03:47] <Jennifer> hi
[03:47] <flaccid> its always a good idea to google to see if there is packages available to avoid building
[03:48] <flaccid> ticat85: ok
[03:48] <BenjaminD> when i am installing a tarball.. what does C compiler cannot create executable mean?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm. No ./configure for gamefu kde version... odd...
[03:48] <ticat85> Dr_willis: see it's madness!
[03:48] <ticat85> no Sopcast on KDE-APPS.org :(
[03:48] <Jennifer> my sound works periodically...perhaps something to do with my sound driver..anybody ever experience this?
[03:49] <Dr_willis> the SDL version has a ./configure
[03:49] <flaccid> ticat85: its not madness. show me the doco and i'lll advise what should be done..
[03:49] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  it has a .kdevelop file
[03:49] <ticat85> flaccid, do i just drag and drop it?
[03:49] <flaccid> no
[03:49]  * flaccid waits
[03:49] <il12> Is there a way to export my settings and accounts in Kopete?
[03:49] <ticat85> how do i share it then?
[03:49] <flaccid> !pastebin | ticat85
[03:49] <ubotu> ticat85: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:50] <flaccid> il12: i don't believe so, however you could copy the profile/config in ~/.kde
[03:51] <Jennifer> has anybody experienced periodic sound disappearance (or appearance) for HP laptops?
[03:51] <ticat85> flaccid, k im just pasting it now
[03:51] <il12> flaccid: alright, thank you but I'll pass. Way too new and with my luck I'd screw it up. I'll just reenter all my info. lol. it'll help me get more used to these distros I suppose.
[03:52] <ticat85> flaccid, pasted under ticat85
[03:52] <flaccid> il12: no worries
[03:52] <ticat85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49455/
[03:52] <flaccid> ticat85: provide the URL
[03:52] <flaccid> thanks
[03:52] <il12> must dash, gonna install on my external HDD.
[03:53] <Dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/
[03:53] <flaccid> ticat85: ok it has the standard SF install guide basically
[03:53] <ticat85> :( man i suck at this
[03:53] <flaccid> ticat85: so when you goto the directory you untarred it, and run sh ./configure what do you get ?
[03:54] <ticat85> "can't open ./configure"
[03:54] <ticat85> is what i get
[03:54] <Dr_willis> There is no configure script in the kde version is why
[03:55] <Dr_willis>  ./ means 'run the program in the current dir'
[03:55] <flaccid> ok now pastebin the output from (stay in the directory): ls -lahR; file ./configure
[03:55] <flaccid> guys can you provide a link to this archive and i'll look at it too
[03:55] <Dr_willis> there is a  CMakeLists.txt  script. and a   gamefu.kdevelop    i see
[03:56] <Dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/
[03:56] <Dr_willis> thats the homepage. :) looking at the archive now.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> I have the sdl version compilng
[03:56] <flaccid> but which actual file
[03:56] <flaccid> ticat85: please provide a link to the archive you are actually trying
[03:57] <firecrotch> I'm running Kubuntu with compiz-fusion, I'm trying to figure out where the file that stores the setting for the desktop background is
[03:57] <ticat85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49456/
[03:57] <feffer> Jennifer: sound is usually on or off. Can you offer more detail?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=126940&package_id=213045&release_id=466728
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Hmm that link pasted badly..
[03:57] <ticat85> that's the html link though
[03:57] <Dr_willis> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gamefu/Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.bz2?modtime=1164549031&big_mirror=0
[03:57] <Dr_willis> there we go.
[03:57] <ticat85> flaccid, look at Dr_willis's post
[03:58] <ticat85> Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz
[03:58] <flaccid> ok ticat85 goto the dir and just do make; sudo make install
[03:58] <flaccid> see if that does it, maybe no configure required
[03:58] <flaccid> technically you should contact the package maintainer and ask them why the INSTALL is incorrect :(
[03:59] <ticat85> flaccid, make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:59] <flaccid> right. Dr_willis you are compiling it atm?
[03:59] <ticat85> flaccid, do i need to include a dir for my install file?
[03:59] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  trying to....
[04:00] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  but not seeing how. and the docs are lacking.
[04:00] <Dr_willis> the sdl version fails to compile also.
[04:00] <Dr_willis> So far,., im thinking this is a Work In progress :)
[04:00] <ticat85> noooo, but blah... :(
[04:00] <flaccid> im thinking so far it sux :)
[04:01] <flaccid> i got it d/l too and it doesn't make sense. this is not infrequent however
[04:01] <ticat85> www.sopcast.com/download
[04:02] <Dr_willis> they got a CMakeLists.txt file.. whatever thats for,, :)
[04:03] <ticat85> can you use rpm files in KDE to install programs?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Makefile.am - Hmm... whats that .am for?
[04:03] <flaccid> !alien | ticat85
[04:03] <ubotu> ticat85: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:03] <flaccid> its a makefile can't remember exactly
[04:04] <ticat85> flaccid, so no :( too dangerous... just like sudo bash :)
[04:04] <flaccid> ticat85: ok i found it this is beta. you need the latest stable which is Kamefu 0.something
[04:04] <flaccid> ticat85: not necessarily. its dependent on many things. a lot of alien can be fine.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> night all...
[04:05] <flaccid> !find kamefu
[04:05] <ubotu> Found: kamefu, kamefu-data, libkamefu-dev, libkamefu0
[04:05] <flaccid> !info kamefu
[04:05] <ubotu> kamefu: KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix - binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 296 kB
[04:05] <ticat85> ya... i'll install Kamefu
[04:05] <flaccid> ticat85: install that package. can't really help with the rest, its beta and in dev etc.
[04:05] <ticat85> only problem with that is i can't configure my joystick and assign buttons using it
[04:06] <flaccid> ah well. how do you know this other version will do that?
[04:06] <ticat85> i don't i was trying to find out :P
[04:06] <flaccid> fair enough
[04:07] <ticat85> oh well :( atleast i got TVtime working
[04:07] <flaccid> cool
[04:07] <ticat85> no sound though....
[04:08] <unix_infidel> can anyone tell me how to setup fonts?
[04:08] <unix_infidel> without a gui tool?
[04:08] <unix_infidel> on gtk apps.
[04:09] <ticat85> flaccid, thanks again for your help...im going to go rest my brain :( ttyl
[04:09] <flaccid> um there is a binary to install fonts dynamically. can't remember the name of it hmm
[04:09] <ticat85> g'night all :) merry xmas and such
[04:10] <flaccid> !fonts
[04:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:10] <flaccid> maybe it says in there
[04:10] <flaccid> brb
[04:11] <jdlizard> can anyone help me with jinzora, i try to access jinzora and it says invalid style liquid
[04:12] <kristjan_> can I download 8.04 iso with kde4?
[04:14] <loronen> how do I change the keyboard settings to dvorak in kubuntu?
[04:15] <zylmak> hello
[04:16] <default> hi all.  has anyone else had problems with Kubuntu burning programs, specifically recognizing blank discs as "empty discs"?  I cannot burn- it just says "please insert cd-r/rw"
[04:18] <default> i think its something messed up in my hdparm.conf, but i don't think i should go about messing with it just yet
[04:18] <unix_infidel> anyone on my fonts question?
[04:19] <default> unix_infidel: what was your question?
[04:19] <unix_infidel> default: how do i set them up so they dont look so ugly.
[04:19] <unix_infidel> especially on gtk apps.
[04:19] <unix_infidel> i've installed msttcorefonts.
[04:19] <Sylphid> anyone know how i can fix a flash drive so it is usable again..... i dont care about the data currently on it
[04:19] <default> unix_infidel: i've got the perfect tutorial for you... hang on
[04:20] <il12> ok, I have started the installer from the LiveCD of Kubuntu and I want to install it on my external HDD.
[04:20] <il12> but I'm not -exactly- sure how to do it. I've gotten the installer setup to the part where you select the partitioning configs.
[04:20] <unix_infidel> default: great!
[04:21] <default> unix_infidel: this was written for Hoary, but it works on all versions of Kubuntu, and your fonts (including GTK) will look much more like M$ "Cleartype" fonts, which i think look rather nice.  ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[04:21] <il12> what do I need to do to makesure that it goes to the external HDD but does NOT wipe it first?
[04:22] <default> unix_infidel: read closely and follow each step, and your fonts will be beautiful
[04:22] <unix_infidel> default: wouldnt it just be better to install ms tt fonts?
[04:22] <loronen> how to switch to dvorak keyboard format?
[04:23] <default> unix_infidel: you'll have the fonts, but you won't have the rendering (sub-pixel hinting and smoothing effects).  Trust me, you will notice the difference
[04:23] <default> unix_infidel: the tutorial actually has you install those fonts
[04:24] <cumulus> Why can my screen resolution be only 640x400, and 800x600 and not bigger while it was way bigger under windows?
[04:25] <Sylphid> loronen: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12580.0;wap2
[04:25] <loronen> sylphid: many thanks
[04:26] <Sylphid> cumulus: what kind of video card do you have
[04:26] <cumulus> It is onboard video
[04:26] <cumulus> Is there a place I can get you the full name of it?
[04:26] <Sylphid> cumulus: ati or nvidia
[04:26] <cumulus> It's some Intel Graphic manager
[04:26] <cumulus> Neither, it's on-board, no cards
[04:27] <il12> /leave
[04:27] <Sylphid> cumulus: what shows up using lspci
[04:28] <flaccid> cumulus: lscpi or lshw
[04:28] <Sylphid> lspci
[04:28] <cumulus> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:28] <flaccid> soz Sylphid
[04:28] <flaccid> i think you need that extra intel driver thing?
[04:29] <cumulus> Both of these I think
[04:29] <cumulus> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:29] <cumulus> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:29] <cumulus> Probably
[04:29] <flaccid> that i915 resolution or something
[04:29] <cumulus> I would find it on their website?
[04:29] <flaccid> looking now
[04:30] <flaccid> this might be it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e . but can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[04:30] <flaccid> also xrandr -q
[04:31] <unix_infidel> hmm, too bad firefox doesnt let you pick your DPI anymore
[04:32] <flaccid> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[04:32] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-intel: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[04:32] <zylmak> geex i just deleted the trash ho do i putit back im in dolphin
[04:32] <flaccid> cumulus: do a sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:33] <cumulus> http://pastebin.com/d30e8d879
[04:33] <cumulus> cumulus@cumulus-laptop:~$ xrandr -q
[04:33] <cumulus> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600
[04:33] <cumulus> default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[04:33] <cumulus>    800x600        61.0*
[04:33] <cumulus>    640x480        60.0
[04:34] <flaccid> cumulus: do the command above and when asked select the intel driver
[04:34] <flaccid> !pastebin | cumulus
[04:34] <cumulus> Ok
[04:34] <ubotu> cumulus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:34] <flaccid> so basically we install and change to intel driver then should have the other resolutions available
[04:34] <cumulus> I didn,t think this was large, sorry
[04:34] <cumulus> I pastebinned the xorg.conf if you still need it
[04:35] <flaccid> above 3 lines apparently is flood
[04:35] <flaccid> anyway see how you go
[04:36] <il12> ok, question. on Kopete, from the LiveCD while I am letting the installer resize a partition on my external HDD to install Kubuntu onto it, it crashes whenever I try and sign into MSN.
[04:36] <cumulus> I did apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel; - and it asks me if I want to install a pack, or keep my version
[04:36] <flaccid> um install i think
[04:37] <il12> can I install using the LiveCD? I know it won't be there when I shutdown...
[04:37] <flaccid> yeah thats what the install shortcut is for on the desktop w/ livecd
[04:37] <il12> I mean install something like Pidgin
[04:38] <flaccid> yeah you can install, but its not persistant, it will be gone on reboot
[04:38] <flaccid> its basically loading it into ram
[04:38] <il12> I'm already letting the resizing partition part of the Kubuntu installer take forever on my external HDD........... hasn't even moved off of 0%
[04:38] <il12> Ok. ty
[04:39] <flaccid> hmm i guess there could be a problem then. is there anything going crazy cpu wise in top or ksysguard?
[04:39] <il12> brb
[04:39] <cumulus> It asks me the video bus now
[04:40] <cumulus> There,s PCI:0:2:0 already written, and I can edit it
[04:41] <flaccid> just enter on that
[04:41] <flaccid> enter on anything you don't know that needs to be changed. the only thing you probably need to change is driver to "intel"
[04:42] <flaccid> and desired resolution if it asks
[04:42] <cumulus> Should it use framebuffer?
[04:42] <cumulus> Ok
[04:43] <flaccid> um press enter. yes or no is ok, probably needs to be on or off for intel i can't recall
[04:43] <lnxkde> guys I am having a problem with firefox, It is slow as hell, and frezees to much when tinking ) I dont get this when I use kubuntu 386) I am using Kubuntu amd64
[04:44] <nide1571> low
[04:44] <nide1571> hello
[04:45] <flaccid> howdy
[04:46] <cumulus> Ok, setup completed
[04:47] <cumulus> Restart X?
[04:47] <flaccid> ok now goto kdm and restart X from menu or do a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart from a tty once logged out
[04:48] <cumulus> tty is ctrl+alt+F1?
[04:48] <flaccid> yep
[04:48] <ardchoille> cumulus: yes
[04:49] <cumulus> So, I log off my session, press these keys and do the command you said?
[04:49] <ardchoille> cumulus: There are 6, ctrl+alt+f1 for tty1, ctrl+alt+f2 for tty2, etc
[04:49] <cumulus> Oh ok
[04:49] <flaccid> cumulus: yeah and if kdm doesn't come back, do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then run startx manual and see the problem in the output
[04:49] <cumulus> I'm scared ^
[04:49] <cumulus> ^^*
[04:49] <cumulus> You scare the noob out of me with all those commands
[04:50] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:50] <flaccid> hehe. its funny when you help a friend remotely fixing their video and you do this and ask them 'is that better'
[04:50] <flaccid> via ssh..
[04:50] <cumulus> Hahaha
[04:50] <ardchoille> flaccid: lol
[04:50] <cumulus> Ok, I,ll take a breath and try
[04:50] <cumulus> it
[04:51] <flaccid> the reaction is usually. thats perfect or its gone all weird! try again heh
[04:51] <cumulus> Thank you verry much, hope it'll work =)
[04:51] <cumulus> Or "It's all black now"? =)
[04:51] <flaccid> yeah me too, i hope so. still you should of been able to get more res with the vesa driver i would of thought, but maybe im wrong
[04:51] <cumulus> Well, it asked me to select resolutions
[04:51] <flaccid> yeah so do what i mentioned above
[04:52] <cumulus> But they were pre-selected
[04:52] <Sylphid> anyone know how i can fix a flash drive so it is usable again..... i dont care about the data currently on it
[04:52] <flaccid> Sylphid: qtpared
[04:52] <flaccid> or fdisk via cli
[04:52] <Solifugus> Has anyone experienced any problems upgrading to gutsy (via adept?)
[04:52] <flaccid> qtparted i mean sorry
[04:53] <Gidean> Hello all...
[04:54] <cumulus> flaccid: you<re a genious =D
[04:54] <Gidean> This may sound rediculous but is it possible to contract a computer virus from image files?
[04:54] <flaccid> serious?
[04:54] <cumulus> The only thing is that when I go in a tty, my screen simply closes up
[04:54] <flaccid> Gidean: depends what you did with the image files
[04:55] <flaccid> simply closes up?
[04:55] <cumulus> But there was an option in the programm that handles the session to restar X, forgot the program name
[04:55] <flaccid> cumulus: sorry mate um i think its ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to tty for X
[04:55] <flaccid> restarting kdm restarts X basically
[04:55] <cumulus> Yeah, I used ctrl+alt+F7 to come back
[04:55] <Gidean> I downloaded a .zip file of osx backgrouds for a gnome box from some wierd website.
[04:55] <cumulus> Because F1 was just closing the screen
[04:55] <Dragnslcr> Gidean- if there's a bug in the program that's rendering the image, yes it's possible
[04:55] <flaccid> ok so you all good cumulus ?
[04:56] <flaccid> cumulus: not sure what you mean, but sounds like its fixed
[04:56] <cumulus> Now yep, except that the tty don,t work for me.  Do I need them in my life^
[04:56] <Gidean> suddenly these white vector lines began appearing on the screen
[04:56] <Gidean> and the panel is all messed up
[04:56] <flaccid> cumulus: um no you don't usually need them. sometimes it can be a pain on some systems to go between which is weird. sometimes on old systems have to hold down the ctrl+alt+whatever a bit
[04:57] <cumulus> Ah, that<s possible
[04:57] <Dragnslcr> Gidean- could just be a bug in X and/or KDE. Tried restarting X?
[04:57] <Sylphid> flaccid: qtparted isnt recognizing the device any other ideas?
[04:58] <Gidean> thought it might be a bug in X so I rebooted, no fix
[04:58] <cumulus> Hm, nope, it really closes my screen =) Even the power light turns off
[04:58] <flaccid> Sylphid: check dmesg and sudo cat /var/log/syslog and also sudo fdisk -l
[04:58] <Dragnslcr> Gidean- I dunno, unless a driver got corrupted somehow
[04:58] <flaccid> cumulus: im not sure what you mean or the problem. perhaps a reboot will fix, see if you can just login from kdm and be normal..
[04:59] <Gidean> I ran dpkg to reconfigure the display...no dice
[04:59] <cumulus> What happens is.  If I type ctrl+alt+F1, the screen closes.  When I hit ctrl+alt+F7, the graphics come back, it is just that
[05:00] <cumulus> And damnit I think my keyboard got configured as a US keyboard now in the X configuration, but I will look in the options for that
[05:00] <Sylphid> flaccid: it shows the device connected in dmesg and syslog but not fdisk -l
[05:00] <Gidean> what other driver could have been corrupted?
[05:00] <flaccid> cumulus: thats how its meant to be? X runs on a tty which is separate. im not if there is a problem
[05:01] <sat_> after installing kubuntu, i chose kde as my default desktop manager. How can I change it to Gnome?
[05:01] <flaccid> Sylphid: maybe its broken or something. even if its unformatted the disk should appear in fdisk -l via usb mass storage
[05:01] <flaccid> sat_: install the package ubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <fildo> flaccid: hi !
[05:02] <flaccid> heya fildo
[05:02] <Sylphid> ight thanks flaccid
[05:02] <flaccid> np
[05:02] <fildo> !flaccid
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <fildo> aww
[05:02] <maduser> hey
[05:02] <_Angelus_> morning
[05:02] <maduser> don't make ubutu work harder then he allready has to
[05:02] <sat_> flaccid: i already had ubuntu. i installed kubuntu. i've both now. the default one is kde now. i wanna change it.
[05:03] <maduser> download the gnome desktop
[05:03] <maduser> through adept
[05:03] <_Angelus_> i made a fresh kubuntu install, and its giving me some weard dcopserver error when ever i try to press the "Administrator" button in system settings, and its not giving me root privilidges
[05:03] <_Angelus_> any help?
[05:03]  * Gidean thinks kde is WAY better
[05:04] <Gidean> couldn't resist :)
[05:04] <cumulus> I'm not sure of how to explain that.  When I go on the tty7 (X), it works fine, I have my screen and everything.  But when I go on tty1 to 6, I don't get a console, I get a black screen
[05:04] <arrrghhh> what's the quickest dirtiest way to find which version of ubuntu is on this livecd?  the iso i downloaded said 7.10, but after installing it on my destkop adept is doing a dist-upgrade to 7.10... i don't get it.
[05:05] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- there was a bug in Adept when 7.10 was released
[05:05] <arrrghhh> i'm running the same livecd on my laptop now, and all i'm finding is the version of kde it's using, nowhere the version of ubuntu
[05:05] <arrrghhh> oh yea?
[05:05] <Dragnslcr> It keeps saying a new version is available even though there isn't
[05:05] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: open a terminal and type:  lsb_release -a
[05:05] <maduser> I had a problem when i did the dist upgrade
[05:05] <arrrghhh> thanks, beautiful.
[05:06] <flaccid> sat_: you simply select the default from kdm or gdm and it should save that default when you choose it from the menu
[05:06] <maduser> so i got a cd and did a freash install
[05:06] <arrrghhh> so i should stop the dist-upgrade?
[05:06] <maduser> all i'm saing is that it did not work for me
[05:06] <maduser> I had to do a new install
[05:06] <flaccid> cumulus: i understand. thats weird how your init tab is doing that. hmm i guess you could google it
[05:06] <arrrghhh> i just did a new install...
[05:07] <cumulus> Bah, I can live without tty for now, when it'll be urgent I will check =0
[05:07] <cumulus> =)*
[05:07] <flaccid> cool
[05:08] <cumulus> Um, out of curiosity, where did you find the informations for the driver? Because I think I need one for my sound too
[05:08] <flaccid> um google and the ubuntu wiki <-- the two places to search and check with first before irc :)
[05:08] <flaccid> i also had knowledge that intel is like this heh
[05:08] <sat_> flaccid: right. I chose kdm. i want to change it to gdm. I don't know how I can get that window. I've been looking for it for 2 hours
[05:09] <cumulus> Alright, I'll check there in the future, save you some time =)
[05:09] <flaccid> sat_: you could ask #ubuntu, i can't remember how you are meant to switch between the two.
[05:09] <sat_> flaccid: sure. thanks.
[05:09] <flaccid> sat_: did you google or search the wiki on this?
[05:10] <sat_> flaccid: no. i'll try that.
[05:10] <flaccid> lots of results on that as well eg. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95275
[05:10] <flaccid> sat_: i just did a search like http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=change+kdm+to+gdm+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[05:11] <wubba> I have a wireless USB ethernet that won't connect to the network.  It shows that it is enabled.  I checked the USB settings and Linux can see the correct card.
[05:11] <sat_> flaccid: thanks. appreciate it.
[05:11] <flaccid> np
[05:11] <Sylphid> cumulus: the tty's will be back to normal after a reboot
[05:11] <wubba> Any ideas?
[05:12] <flaccid> !wireless | wubba
[05:12] <ubotu> wubba: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <flaccid> did you check the support of the card, wubba does it come up in ifconfig at least?
[05:12] <flaccid> (or ifconfig -a)
[05:12] <cumulus> Sylphid: Okie, gracias
[05:13] <cumulus> The wiki is http://wiki.kubuntu.com ?
[05:13] <wubba> THe card is supported - I didn't do an ifconfig - but I checked the NETWORK SETTINGS - it enabled it but it isn't pulling an IP.
[05:13] <flaccid> !wiki
[05:13] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[05:13] <wubba> let me try the ifconfig
[05:13] <flaccid> or http://wiki.kubuntu.org
[05:14] <cumulus> This wiki is more about the team who did kubuntu or I misslooked?
[05:15] <flaccid> everything is there. you just search basically
[05:15] <cumulus> Alright
[05:15] <flaccid> its a topic based system thats collab
[05:18] <sat_> flaccid: i could change it to gdm. thanks.
[05:18] <flaccid> np
[05:19] <unix_infidel> hmm, can someone tell me why i cant press backspace and go back in firefox?
[05:19] <flaccid> i wish i could unix_infidel
[05:20] <unix_infidel> lol
[05:20] <unix_infidel> i just spent the last oh....2 hours configuring linux.
[05:20] <unix_infidel> and i'm not even half way done :-)
[05:20] <flaccid> ouchy
[05:20] <unix_infidel> but i'm going from scratch with ubuntu-server so i guess i deserve it.
[05:21] <flaccid> ouchy choice for server hehe
[05:23] <flaccid> well i can't talk i still got one here, but i guess its for testing. too lazy to change it to freebsd heh
[05:24] <unix_infidel> is there anyway to generate an xmodmap?
[05:25] <cumulus> Quick question: How can I access my other hard-drive partitions under KDE?
[05:26] <flaccid> !mount | cumulus
[05:26] <ubotu> cumulus: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:26] <flaccid> oops wrong one
[05:26] <flaccid> !fstab | cumulus
[05:26] <ubotu> cumulus: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:26] <flaccid> !ntfs | cumulus
[05:26] <ubotu> cumulus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:28] <Breetai> I messed something up with compiz i.e. no window decorations and no keyboard input. Does anyone know how to delete all of the compiz settings out of a user account
[05:28] <cumulus> It's already mounted
[05:28] <maduser> I don't think an unistall will do....
[05:29] <flaccid> goto like storage media in konqueror or dolphin, cumulus
[05:29] <cumulus> Ok, because on gnome it's on the desktop, so I was wondering what the location was for kde =)
[05:29] <cumulus> Gracias mister
[05:29] <cumulus> Thanks for everything.  I think I,ve got my quota for today =)
[05:29] <flaccid> cumulus: you can enable that in kde as well by going to configure desktop
[05:30] <flaccid> np cumulus
[05:30] <cumulus> Happy holidays
[05:30] <cumulus> Oh, I'll do that right away
[05:31] <flaccid> cia0
[05:32] <ganjamaniac> dn3d needs SLI
[05:38] <kyled185> does anyone know what package supplies SDL-opengl libs?
[05:38] <biovore> I SDL uses that standard opengl stuff..
[05:38] <biovore> I think..
[05:39] <kyled185> biovore, so I assume opengl support would be in the libsdl package
[05:40] <biovore> libglut3-dev mesa-common-dev freeglut3-dev glutg3-dev
[05:40] <Greenery> !teamspeak
[05:40] <ubotu> Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak  For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
[05:40] <biovore> I don't SDL does any actual OpenGL rendering.. Has some calls like init and setup window.. but alot of it is just calls to standard GL libs.
[05:41] <biovore> (I don't think)
[05:41] <kyled185> I think you're right, I just wanted to use to to supplement opengl with mice, audio, etc
[05:42] <biovore> http://lazyfoo.net/SDL_tutorials/index.php <-- some good tutorials on the subject
[05:42] <kyled185> biovore, that's actually what I'm using, but thanks
[05:43] <biovore> ok cool.. there setup for linux on that is correct.. they all worked here..
[05:43] <ganjamaniac> !seen mr. meowagi
[05:49] <mani213> i have a program with my adept it says its already running but its not
[05:50] <mani213> so i cant even fetch updates
[05:50] <mani213> what should i do
[05:50] <ubu> i think my cd/dvd burner has gone wacko: dmesg= "ide: failed opcode was: unknown" & "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit"
[05:50] <ubu> that can't be good, can it?
[05:50] <flaccid> !adeptxfix | mani213
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptxfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[05:50] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:51] <flaccid> maybe that
[05:51] <mani213> type that in konsole?
[05:51] <ubu> also: "hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 }"
[05:51] <mani213> !adeptxfix
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptxfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <ubu> mani213: you probably have an instance of adept running in the background... check in Ksysguard
[05:54] <mani213> so i just look for adapt
[05:54] <mani213> and kill it?
[05:55] <evjunior09> Can anyone help me with Syncing my iPod Touch to Amarok??
[05:56] <mani213> still not working
[05:56] <mani213> adept is acting weird
[05:56] <maduser> did you do sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[05:57] <mani213> no what does that do?
[05:57] <evjunior09> Hello?
[05:57] <maduser> thats the fix
[05:57] <maduser> run it in the terminal
[05:58] <mani213> after i type that
[05:58] <mani213> do i type in y for yes?
[05:58] <maduser> yeah
[05:58] <mani213> thanks
[05:58] <Mister_Hand> Hi There, when you use a voip like Kphone, do you have to register somewhere for SIP service?
[05:58] <mani213> i would have never figured that
[05:58] <maduser> you could have googled it
[05:59] <Mister_Hand> I hear all this "free" phone call stuff, but don't know anything about it
[05:59] <maduser> is an easy fix
[06:00] <maduser> the only "free" phone calls i have ever heard of by means of phreaking
[06:00] <Mister_Hand> maduser, i see
[06:01] <Mister_Hand> maduser, it was my understanding you could make free calls over voip
[06:02] <ardchoille> Is it possible to get google toolbar in kubuntu?
[06:03] <maduser> download firefox with google tool bar for linux?
[06:04] <ardchoille> So I have to use firefix and a google toolbar extension?
[06:04] <maduser> dunno
[06:04] <maduser> mabe its an add on?
[06:05] <maduser> like firefox ftp
[06:06] <homercycles> I'm having problems where Kubuntu keeps removing a DNS server I add as my primary DNS every hour or so.  Does anybody know how to force a DNS setting in Kubuntu 7.10?
[06:07] <dthacker> homercycles: are you using DHCP?
[06:09] <arrrghhh> wow... so i guess the nvidia 7600gt isn't officially supported?
[06:09] <homercycles> I quite possible am, from my ADSL router.
[06:09] <homercycles> Guess I should go and tell it to dish out the DNS for me?
[06:09] <homercycles> it's a Billion whose internal DNS is slow as sh*te so if I specified my ISP DNS in Windows, it fixed it, but Linux won't remember a manually-added DNS, it seems
[06:09] <arrrghhh> restricted drivers didn't work, and the 'official' installer has now broken my xorg completely... ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't even get me back to a console that's readable.  it's all the same illegible character.
[06:10] <mani213> when i download a driver off net how do i install it open it with ark?
[06:10] <dthacker> homercycles: if your DHCP lease expires, then your /etc/resolv.conf (where your DNS settings live) will be overwritten.
[06:10] <arrrghhh> does anyone else have the 7600gt?  it's skipped in the 'supported drivers' section of nvidia's website...
[06:12] <arrrghhh> oh but there it is in the newest software update... so why did it break everything?  shouldn't deleting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file fix it at least enough to get back into a session?
[06:12] <arrrghhh> seems the unbreakable X has been broken by my newest gutsy install....
[06:17] <mani213> how do i update the drivers?
[06:19] <ardchoille> mani213: which drivers?
[06:19] <arrrghhh> so i'm getting a "screens found, but none have a usable configuration" error.
[06:20] <mani213> like graphics card mother board etc
[06:21] <ardchoille> mani213: If you installed the drivers via the repos, then updating the system will update everything. If you installed the drivers from source or 3rd party packages, it's up to you to update them.
[06:21] <mani213> so how do i update it with linux do i use adept?
[06:21] <ardchoille> mani213: Did you install from the repos?
[06:21] <mani213> repos?
[06:21] <mani213> you mean sites?
[06:22] <ardchoille> adept? Synaptic? apt-get?
[06:22] <ardchoille> mani213: How did you install?
[06:22] <mani213> i didnt install drivers yet
[06:22] <mani213> but i wana so what should i do search ati in adept??
[06:22] <ardchoille> !ati | mani213
[06:22] <ubotu> mani213: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <arrrghhh> ok, i did exactly what the "BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia" instructed me to and it didn't work.  i did what the nvidia website told me to do, and it BROKE the so-called unbreakable X.
[06:28] <flaccid> when was x deemed unbreakbable lol
[06:28] <dsmith_> lol
[06:28] <flaccid> arrrghhh: do you know how to go to a tty?
[06:28] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[06:28] <dsmith_> dunno, I have broke it plenty of times
[06:28] <arrrghhh> 7.10
[06:29] <arrrghhh> flaccid: tty... no?
[06:29] <flaccid> arrrghhh: ok check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the problem of X/kdm not starting
[06:29] <mrtimbo> hi
[06:29] <arrrghhh> flaccid: yes i have... "screens found, but none have a usuable configuration"
[06:30] <arrrghhh> and "failed to load the NVIDIA knernel module"
[06:31] <flaccid> arrrghhh: ok did you do a kernel upgrade recently? if so you need to reinstall the restricted driver via restricted-manager
[06:32] <arrrghhh> flaccid: i only have a cli, so i can do that via apt-get right?
[06:32] <flaccid> yeah
[06:32] <flaccid> um
[06:32] <arrrghhh> and this is a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10...
[06:32] <flaccid> purge and then reinstall any *nvidia* packages would be the easiest way in this case
[06:33] <arrrghhh> ok
[06:33] <flaccid> well you might be better to change xorg.conf to use the vesa driver to get into X then use restictd-manager to fix it up and reinstall the restricted driver
[06:33] <flaccid> and this is nvidia's fault unfortunately
[06:34] <arrrghhh> yea they support linux... but not very well.
[06:34] <dsmith_> bad nvidia bad!
[06:35] <dsmith_> i rather have bad nvidia over horrible ati
[06:35] <flaccid> this is true. both are BLOBs iirc
[06:36] <dsmith_> blobs?
[06:37] <arrrghhh> ja
[06:37] <arrrghhh> i'll try the restricted driver way, but last time that didn't work either.
[06:37] <flaccid> binary large objects
[06:37] <flaccid> yeah but we need to find out why it didn't work...
[06:37] <flaccid> otherwise you could be beating your head forever against the wall
[06:38] <flaccid> if it doesn't find the kernel mod then it needs to be reinstalled
[06:38] <arrrghhh> i don't think i have the restricted driver manager installed
[06:39] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: You installed from the Kubuntu 7.10 ISO ?
[06:39] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: System Settings > Advanced tab > Restricted Drivers
[06:40] <flaccid> ardchoille: i guess thats a kcmdshell thing and the restricted-manager-kde gives the qt frontend. do you know how to call what you just said by a command
[06:41] <arrrghhh> ardchoille: i don't have that
[06:41] <arrrghhh> yea, i installed from a 7.10 kubuntu iso
[06:41] <arrrghhh> it's still on this laptop
[06:41] <mani213> why do they gata make it so hard to get ati drivers
[06:41] <unix_infidel> anyone using mesk?
[06:42] <flaccid> mani213: licensing etc.
[06:42] <mani213> i tried pasted the comands the site says doesnt work
[06:42] <unix_infidel> aka the dapper deb?
[06:42] <flaccid> arrrghhh: if you are sure you don't have it in system settings, install the package restricted-manager-kde . but it should be there
[06:42] <unix_infidel> i'm essentialyl looking for a foobar2000 clone?
[06:42] <mrtimbo> what is kubuntu's serial key?
[06:43] <mrtimbo> jk I was asked this today
[06:43] <ardchoille> flaccid: kcmshell restricted-manager-kde
[06:43] <Lynoure> mrtimbo: that's exactly what it is, joke artwork...
[06:44] <arrrghhh> flaccid: i found the packages that needed to be installed... i purged them earlier.
[06:44] <ardchoille> arrrghhh: try this from a terminal: kdesu kcmshell restricted-manager-kde
[06:45] <flaccid> thank you
[06:46] <ardchoille> flaccid: kcmshell --list
[06:46] <ardchoille> :)
[06:46] <flaccid> dang
[06:46] <flaccid> nice
[06:46] <ardchoille> flaccid: fyi, kcontrol is gone in kde4, system settings is the default.
[06:47] <flaccid> ardchoille: unfortunately for that kcmshell command you need restricted-manager-kde package
[06:47] <ubuntu> hello
[06:47] <flaccid> ah ok cool thanks ardchoille
[06:47] <ardchoille> flaccid: Isn't that installed by default in 7.10?
[06:47] <ubuntu> can some one help?
[06:47] <arrrghhh> flaccid: ok it said computer needs restarter... i went to the menu and hit restart.
[06:47] <ardchoille> ubuntu: help with what?
[06:47] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: just ask my friend
[06:47] <flaccid> i believe it when you said the other day ardchoille but it doesn't appear so. need that package. i didn't think it would be duplicated
[06:48] <flaccid> cool arrrghhh
[06:48] <ubuntu> i had a windows error
[06:48] <flaccid> its weird how they didn't make it default considering this is the number 1 problem
[06:48] <ardchoille> flaccid: iirc, restricted manager is installed with Gutsy
[06:49] <ubuntu> wehn i start my computer i get "<windows root>\system32\hal.dll is missing or corrupt" and its effecting Ubuntu
[06:49] <ubuntu> on my system
[06:49] <arrrghhh> and it kicked me back to a cli login... no gui.  it broke X just like the official nvidia installer did as well.
[06:49] <flaccid> !info restricted-manager
[06:49] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB
[06:49] <arrrghhh> same error, screens found but none with a usable configuration.
[06:49] <flaccid> is optional..
[06:50] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Ubuntu? You should be in #ubuntu but that sounds like a Windows problem
[06:50] <flaccid> arrrghhh: um yes, but did the nv module error go away.. ?
[06:50] <flaccid> arrrghhh: do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg now then try
[06:51] <flaccid> otherwise paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at
[06:51] <ubuntu> how can i get my system to run at least one operating system without removing anyfiles?
[06:51] <ardchoille> flaccid: Well, the restricted manager always gets installed with the system here, 11 computers.
[06:51] <flaccid> ardchoille: didn't on mine and the package is optional. when i removed it i lost it.
[06:52] <flaccid> ubuntu: what is your actual problem. the answer to your question is have a bootable OS installed.
[06:52] <ubuntu> never mind
[06:52] <flaccid> fair enough
[06:52] <ubuntu> i'll just run off the CD's
[06:52] <flaccid> whatever that means :o
[06:53] <flaccid> i wish i could understand peoples vague questions :)
[06:54] <arrrghhh> after the dpkg-reconfigure and a reboot, i get a "cannot display this configuration" on my monitor...
[06:55] <flaccid> arrrghhh: [17:51] <flaccid> otherwise paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at
[06:55] <flaccid> pastebin that is
[06:55] <david_J> What packages do I need to install to get konqueror to automount cdrom device?
[06:55] <arrrghhh> it didn't ask me any questions.
[06:55] <ardchoille> flaccid: I was just about tho repeat that :)
[06:55] <david_J> I am running fluxbox cause I have a weak computer..
[06:55] <flaccid> hehe
[06:55] <arrrghhh> hrm i do'
[06:55] <david_J> I like konqueror
[06:55] <flaccid> david_J: none
[06:56] <arrrghhh> sorry, didn't mean to hit enter.
[06:56] <david_J> really
[06:56] <flaccid> yeah hal looks after that stuff
[06:57] <david_J> okay I had to re put in the cdrom
[06:57] <david_J> thanks
[06:57] <david_J> people in ubuntu were kinda rude... Sorry I couldn't run gnome
[06:58] <flaccid> cool np
[06:58] <flaccid> flaccid is going to be pretty drunk soon. ah well heh
[07:01] <biovore> a drunk flaccid is a happy flaccid
[07:01] <biovore> :-P
[07:01] <flaccid> lol, this is true, well usually
[07:01] <flaccid> ok time for some air. bbs.
[07:08] <arrrghhh> i got it working... restricted drivers worked 2nd time around.  thanks guys.
[07:10] <flaccid> np
[07:12] <evjunior09> Anyone know how to install Gtkpod?
[07:12] <flaccid> !find gtkpod
[07:12] <ubotu> Found: gtkpod, gtkpod-aac
[07:12] <flaccid> !info gtkpod
[07:12] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.10-2 (gutsy), package size 695 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[07:12] <evjunior09> is there a Sudo?
[07:12] <flaccid> evjunior09: enable universe repos and install via adept or any pkg manager
[07:12] <flaccid> there is sudo and kdesuo etc.
[07:13] <flaccid> !root | evjunior09
[07:13] <ubotu> evjunior09: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:20] <evjunior09> Does anyone know if Gtkpod works with iPod Touch
[07:20] <execut> hello
[07:21] <maduser> hi
[07:22] <evjunior09> Can the iPod Touch work with gtkpod?
[07:24] <Linux_Galore> evjunior09: yes, but i found amarok is easier
[07:25] <Linux_Galore> libgpod was updated recently to support the new iPODS
[07:25] <Linux_Galore> both amarok and gtkpod use the same lib
[07:26] <michi> !german
[07:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:28] <SudoKing> hi, how do you find your current KDE version? :P
[07:29] <Lynoure> SudoKing: any KDE app, Help -> About KDE
[07:29] <flaccid> SudoKing: right click the kmenu and goto help | about
[07:29] <execut> !turkish
[07:29] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[07:29] <SudoKing> mmk
[07:42] <Fatih_Akdeniz> hi
[08:32] <ubuntu> nakkel
[08:32] <ubuntu> ?
[08:41] <jezze|> miten pystyn rekisteröityy?!
[08:41] <jezze|> kiitoss
[08:42] <yesdup> Merry Christmas to one and all and thanks to everyone who helped give us Kubuntu it ROCKS!!
[08:53] <liz> Hi?
[08:54] <ardchoille> hi liz
[08:54] <liz> wow was beginning to think it was head in here
[08:54] <Stalk3r> Anyone know of software to convert a quicktime MP4 file to something I can burn onto a DVD for television viewing?
[08:54] <liz> dead*
[08:54] <jussi01> liz: its christmas eve,what do you expect?
[08:55] <Fatih_Akdeniz> hi
[08:55] <liz> honestly I had no idea what to expect
[08:55] <Stalk3r> Oh yeah, Merry Holidays, everyone!
[08:55] <jussi01> !fi | jezze|
[08:55] <ubotu> jezze|: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:56] <jussi01> Stalk3r: vlc does it I think.
[08:56] <Stalk3r> jussi01: thanks
[08:56] <Stalk3r> I'll try that
[08:57] <liz> I can't seem to get ndiswrapper1.5 to install
[08:58] <liz> grrr
[08:58] <jussi01> liz: whats the issue?
[08:58] <ardchoille> !info ndiswrapper
[08:58] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[08:58] <fredo> salut
[08:58] <fredo> qua
[08:58] <fredo> stion
[08:58] <jussi01> !fr | fredo
[08:58] <ubotu> fredo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:59] <jussi01> liz: is it for broadcom?
[08:59] <fredo> merci
[08:59] <jussi01> :)
[08:59] <liz> for Atheros AR5007EG
[08:59] <jussi01> liz: is there not native support for atheros?
[08:59] <liz> Running Kubuntu 64bit
[08:59] <liz> not for the 5007
[09:00] <liz> 5006 yes
[09:00] <jussi01> liz: ouch
[09:00] <liz> works beautifully on my Asus F3KA-A1
[09:00] <ardchoille> !search ndiswrapper
[09:00] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper
[09:00] <jussi01> !ndiswrapper
[09:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:00] <liz> not so much on my Asus F3KA-X2
[09:03] <liz> Trying to get the wireless in Kubuntu working before my sister (Liz) leaves for arizona later today
[09:03] <liz> I'm Isaac btw, sorry I didn't mention it earlyier
[09:05] <liz> unfortunately my Linux skills leave something to be desired
[09:06] <liz> to take it from the top:
[09:06] <liz> I'm working from this guide
[09:06] <liz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread?t=512828
[09:06] <tjeerd> Hello, I have a (beginners) question: What is the usual directory where shared files for all users on the same machine are stored?
[09:07] <TimS> Is there a gui bootsplash changer?
[09:07] <liz> I downloading the latest version by pasting: wget http://wifix.sourceforge.net/software.php?title=ndiswrapper into the console
[09:07] <tjeerd> (For instance: music, video's, pictures etc available to all users)
[09:09] <liz> extracted the archive: tar xvf ndiswrapper-1.5.tar.gz
[09:10] <liz> ran this command: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[09:12] <flaccid> tjeerd: there is no such thing
[09:12] <faolan> okay, how usable is KDE4 in the Kubuntu repos?
[09:12] <flaccid> usable enough
[09:12] <liz> changed to the ndiswrapper directory: cd ndiswrapper-1.5
[09:13] <liz> ran: sudo make uninstall
[09:13] <jussi01> liz: ndiswrapper 1.9 is in the repos...
[09:13] <faolan> then i guess i'll give it a shot
[09:13] <liz> ok
[09:14] <jussi01> liz: the broadcom instuctions tell you how to get it
[09:14] <giuseppe> hi, how can I mount NFS partition?
[09:14] <jussi01> !broadcom
[09:14] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[09:15] <faolan> broadcom is a dissapointment. i mean how hard can it be to make hardware that is standards compatible?
[09:15] <jussi01> !ot | faolan
[09:15] <ubotu> faolan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:15] <flaccid> its never a matter of difficulty. open and standard is easier :) well usually
[09:15] <liz> investigating -- I thought the latest version was 1.51....
[09:15] <flaccid> well it relates to kubuntu definately
[09:16] <tjeerd> OK, thanks for the info flaccid. Is there a standard that people use for sharing files locally?
[09:16] <hrm> hallo.....
[09:16] <flaccid> !samba | tjeerd
[09:16] <ubotu> tjeerd: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:16] <flaccid> de facto standard yes
[09:16] <flaccid> local on lan i assume you mean
[09:17] <Stalk3r> Wow, vlc look slike kaka
[09:17] <Stalk3r> looks like*
[09:18] <tjeerd> But I wanna share files on a local kubuntu machine, not between Linux and Windows.
[09:18] <flaccid> !perms | tjeerd
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <flaccid> hmm
[09:19] <flaccid> !permissions
[09:19] <faolan> never was a fan of VLC there's some program like Cocaine or Kaffeine that I like to use that works good for video
[09:19] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[09:19] <jussi01> tjeerd: just make the folder and files accessable by all
[09:19] <faolan> for audio it's Amarok
[09:19] <Xcell> lol cociane
[09:19] <flaccid> tjeerd: so depending on the source, its file permissions that let other users access files
[09:19] <pag> giuseppe, are you trying to mount NFS (network file share) or NTFS ("windows filesystem") ?
[09:19] <flaccid> !nfs | giuseppe
[09:19] <ubotu> giuseppe: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:20] <Stalk3r> Kaffeine and KMplayer view the file just fine but Vlc doesn't and I need to convert it to another format in order to burn it to DVD for the TV
[09:20] <tjeerd> OK, than I'll just create a user "share" that has the shared files with access 777
[09:20] <Stalk3r> and of course I use Amarok for audio. ;)
[09:21] <faolan> Xcell: it's been a long day. 9 hours in a wal-mart kills brain cells
[09:21] <Xcell> lol
[09:21] <jussi01> Stalk3r: try avidemux
[09:21] <Xcell> I know
[09:22] <Stalk3r> jussi01: ok, thanks, I'll try that
[09:22] <Xcell> merry xmas
[09:22] <ardchoille> hi Xcell
[09:22] <Xcell> hi ardchoille
[09:22] <Xcell> happy holiday ardchoille
[09:22] <hrm> FLZ HELP ME.. Need configuration SQUID & DANSGUARDIAN
[09:23] <hrm> FLZ HELP ME.. Need configuration SQUID & DANSGUARDIAN
[09:23] <ardchoille> Xcell: Right back at ya :)
[09:23] <flaccid> hrm: lots on google for that. don't repeat
[09:23] <Xcell> gotta run. talk later.
[09:23] <faolan> well i'm off to bed. gotta snooze.
[09:23] <liz> well got ndiswrapper working
[09:23] <jussi01> liz: :)
[09:23] <liz> uninstalled it in adept and then reinstalled it
[09:24] <liz> now to try the driver......
[09:25] <risto> How could i restore the default font settings ?
[09:26] <liz> I *really* hope after typing: ndiswrapper -i net5211.inf, getting 20+ forcing parameter MapRegisters from 256 to 64 was ok.
[09:31] <flaccid> seeyas
[09:32] <Stalk3r> jussi01: it's a beautiful thing, thanks so much, Happy Holidays!
[09:33] <liz> well "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" yielded this the first time around "FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory"
[09:34] <liz> so I ran "sudo depmod -ae"
[09:34] <liz> now I get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."
[09:35] <liz> I head Microsoft and cohorts whispering into my ear to install Windows
[09:37] <Hamra> liz: close your head then, its evil's sound
[09:40] <giuseppe> ubotu: Sorry for late answer... I wanna mount NTFS windows partition
[09:42] <pag> giuseppe, local partition, or is it shared over internet?
[09:43] <jussi01> !bot > giuseppe
[09:43] <giuseppe> pag: local partition
[09:44] <giuseppe> I was reading @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:45] <pag> giuseppe, a command " sudo fdisk -l " will list your partitions. could you tell, which device ( /dev/sd* ) do you want to mount?
[09:45] <kolja> hi all Q: installing kde4 on ma ubuntu+kde i got errors: package (examples kdebase-runtime-data vs kde4addons-data) create same files (ex. renaudiodlg.desktop) generating a broken pipe in dpkg
[09:45] <pag> !ntfs | giuseppe
[09:45] <ubotu> giuseppe: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[09:46] <liz> ok I'm going to Windows(XP) now.  At least it works there.
[09:46] <giuseppe> pag: dev/sda1
[09:46] <noaXess> !mouse
[09:46] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:46] <jussi01> !brokenkde4 | kolja
[09:46] <ubotu> kolja: If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[09:47] <liz> maybe when I sister gets back from Vacation I'll try again, but I am WAY past tired of farking aroung in Kubuntu with the WiFi.
[09:47] <pag> giuseppe, ok. please, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  ) your /etc/fstab  (you can view it with command: cat /etc/fstab )
[09:49] <pag> giuseppe, and remember to give link to your paste ;)
[09:49] <kolja> ubotu: thnx.. i'm doing it
[09:49] <kolja> ahahah
[09:51] <risto> How could i restore the default font settings ?
[09:51] <giuseppe> pag
[09:52] <giuseppe> pag: I pasted etc/fstab content... but do u see it?
[09:52] <pag> giuseppe, you've got to give link to it (in adressbar of your browser)
[09:53] <ardchoille> I know you can send your username to the clipboard with "dcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents $(whoami)" but that doesn't work with $(cat /etc/fstab)
[09:55] <giuseppe> pag: sorry, be patiente please :).... I opened this link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and now I have to paste
[09:55] <giuseppe> pag: etc/fstab content in text field?
[09:55] <ardchoille> giuseppe: yes
[09:56] <giuseppe> pag: done... and now
[09:57] <ardchoille> giuseppe: Now give us the link that pastebin gave you so we can see what you pasted
[09:57] <pag> giuseppe, copy text from your adressbar ( the one which reads http://.... ) and paste that link in here
[09:58] <giuseppe> pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49466/
[09:58] <giuseppe> pag: ohhh, great toll this pastebin... useful
[10:00] <noaXess> !mouse
[10:00] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[10:01] <giuseppe> pag: are u able to see it?
[10:01] <pag> giuseppe, first do the following command " sudo mkdir /media/windows " then press alt+f2 and type " kdesudo kate /etc/fstab "  then copy that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49467/ line to the end of the file (start a new line) and save the file
[10:01] <pag> giuseppe, yup. saw it perfectly :)
[10:02] <pag> then, the command " sudo mount -a " should mount that parition, and you will be able to see its contents
[10:03] <giuseppe> pag:
[10:03] <giuseppe> pag: done, and noe mount -a?
[10:03] <pag> giuseppe, yes
[10:04] <giuseppe> pag: great... you were right
[10:04] <giuseppe> pag: but strange, I follow I similar giude
[10:05] <giuseppe> pag: but probably I was wrong about etc/fstab content
[10:06] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:06] <pag> hello slow-motion :-)
[10:07] <slow-motion> hi pag
[10:07] <giuseppe> pag: sorry, but now I will be able to see NTFS partition also @ next restart?
[10:07] <pag> giuseppe, yes :-)
[10:07] <ardchoille> giuseppe: You should if it's in /etc/fstab
[10:08] <giuseppe> pag: ok, I see... Thanks
[10:08] <pag> giuseppe, also, if you want write acces to that partition, you could install ntfs-3g  and change ntfs to ntfs-3g on that fstab line
[10:09] <ardchoille> pag: isn't ntfs writing a feature of the kernel now?
[10:10] <pag> ardchoille, I'm not quite sure actually :S I never tried to write ntfs myself
[10:10] <giuseppe> pag: oh... thanks
[10:14] <sjck> Somehow Safely remove of my new mp3player doesnt work alright http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/24010/ can anyone help? : (
[10:17] <sjck> Is there no way that I can force to remove safely, so the files stay on the mp3player?
[10:18] <florent> !fr
[10:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:18] <florent> it's ok
[10:21] <SSJ_GZ> sjck: Typing "sync" at a command-prompt should do the trick.
[10:49] <blackrose> hello
[10:50] <blackrose> is anybody here?
[10:50] <JohnFlux> nobody
[10:50] <blackrose> ohh
[10:50] <blackrose> wassup?
[10:51] <jussi01> blackrose: can we help?
[10:52] <blackrose> no thanks, everything's working fine on my Kubuntu system :)
[10:52] <jussi01> :)
[10:52] <blackrose> but thankyou anyways :)
[10:52] <blackrose> i love this OS :D
[10:53] <rothchild> "no thanks, everything's working fine on my Kubuntu system :)"  Don't you just hate it when that happens ;-)
[10:53] <jussi01> hehe
[10:53] <rothchild> I can help you break some stuff if you;re looking for something to do?
[10:54] <blackrose> :D
[10:54] <blackrose> yadadaaaa :D
[10:54]  * jussi01 breaks rothchild
[10:54] <blackrose> maybe hmmm deleting the /usr/bin directory? :)
[10:54] <rothchild> oww!
[10:54] <blackrose> :D
[10:54] <blackrose> hey aahm merry christmas dudes :D
[10:55] <jussi01> come on, Kubuntu SUPPORT!!! ... not "how to break kubuntu in 60 seconds"
[10:55] <blackrose> :D
[10:55] <rothchild> have you got your windows disk ready blackrose ;-)
[10:56] <blackrose> yeah :) with Vista :D
[10:56] <blackrose> but i dunn use it :D
[10:56] <blackrose> i prefer kubuntu :D
[10:58] <hungrymouse> anyone know if there's a decent japanese IME for kubuntu?
[10:58] <jussi01> hungrymouse: IME?
[10:58]  * jussi01 hates acronyms
[10:58] <hungrymouse> jussi01: input method editor i believe. basically you type in english letters and it converts them into kana for you
[10:59] <Hamra> in one week, i've got 3 people giving me their laptops to remove vista and put XP on them! unfortunatly, none of them wanted to hear the slightest mention of linux no matter what! why are ppl so scared of it?
[10:59] <hungrymouse> Hamra: install linux and skin it to look like xp. they wont notice till they've got hooked.
[10:59] <jussi01> hungrymouse: ahhh
[11:00] <hungrymouse> and also, Hamra, people are scared because it's free and... well... unusual. anything free must have problems by many ppls definitions.
[11:00] <Hamra> lol
[11:03] <Hamra> firstly, most of them never realize there is OS other than M$, their first question would be "is older or newer than XP? i heard vista is the newest!". and when i mention free, they say, all of them start free, they dont even know what open source is
[11:04] <ardchoille> !ot
[11:04] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:06] <hungrymouse> thing about open source is it DOESNT MATTER if you cant understand any of the actual source. the fact that its creator is prepared to release the source means that they're confident that it's not gonna embarrass them.
[11:06] <jari> hi, I have question about USB mic and drivers
[11:06] <jussi01> jari: go ahead!
[11:07] <jari> any advice on what to do in order to get the USB microphone working?
[11:07] <jari> I have so far only used a basic mic but this is logitech's USB mic
[11:08] <jussi01> jari: usually they just work - but you need to select it in the program - which program are you using fo mic input? skype?
[11:08] <jussi01> jari: my logitec works fine.
[11:09] <jari> audacity
[11:09] <hungrymouse> jari: in general things seem to work with linux. i'm currently connected to 2 external HDDs and they both say that they are only for use with windows. i didnt even need to download extra drivers xD