[17:15] <TJ-> MrELusive: The driver is fine! This is an issue with the network layer. As gabe-20 said it could be related to the IPv6 DNS issues, or it might be a slow link negotiation, or incorrect routing
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> lucido, If this is the only install you will need to hold the shift key down after powering on to see grub if it is 12.04.
[17:15] <Seven_Six_Two> I have this problem where my windows will be blank white when switching between active windows.  I have tried different video drivers (nvidia), but nothing seems to fix it. Any ideas?
[17:15] <MrELusiveone> hrmmm
[17:16] <lucido> wilee-nilee, its oneiric
[17:16] <MrELusiveone> did they revamp IPv6 last update?
[17:16] <Seven_Six_Two> It makes it so that I can't do my homework with 2 windows open at a time. Either one is blank, or the other is (when they're side-by-side)
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> lucido, I believe oneric is the same try the esc or shift key.
[17:16] <Derpian> Hey, whenever I patch thinkpad_acpi, it keeps saying it is in use, how do I avoid this?
[17:16] <gabe-20> TJ - MrELusiveone: It definitely has something to do with the drivers getting affected by whatever update Ubuntu performed last time. Like I said earlier, I'm not the only one who has seen this since many Ubuntu users have posted this problem in various forums
[17:17] <eamon> Is kubuntu gonna have the ads too?
[17:17] <gabe-20> TJ - MrELusiveone: However, the forums suggest it is a problem with IPv6 and that disabling it solves the issue... it didn't work for me though
[17:17] <TJ-> gabe-20: Could you pastebin me the results of these commands please? "iwconfig; ip route show; cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[17:17] <bazhang> eamon, since kubuntu does not have unity?
[17:17] <MrELusiveone> gabe-20 yeah and for me it was the other way around i acuatualy gained the ability to use the wifi on my notebook since their update
[17:17] <^GeCk0^> <3 gubuntu
[17:18] <MrELusiveone> but you said you had been using ver 10.XXX right?
[17:18] <gabe-20> TJ: what's the pastbin url please?
[17:18] <Alex_portugal> I cant interpret the messages
[17:19] <OpenbsdVbox> !paste | gabe-20
[17:19] <gabe-20> thank you guys :)
[17:19] <Derpian> how do I kill thinkpad_acpi?
[17:19] <TJ-> gabe-20: That's it ^^^^ whilst you're there, also paste the output of "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/forwarding; ip -6 r"
[17:19] <MrELusiveone> gabe-20 i wonder if a fresh install of the latest would solve the problem or just reinstall the old ver?
[17:20] <beboj> does anyone use sierra goobi 2000 5620 via wvdial, nm or anything?
[17:22] <gabe-20> TJ: sorry it took a while for obvious reasons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1220928/
[17:24] <TJ-> gabe-20: OK, I see the issue. Let's try fixing it.
[17:24] <Derpian> do any of you know how to get past: ERROR: Module thinkpad_acpi is in use
[17:24] <Derpian> I have no idea how to shutdown the acpi temporarily so I can add a patch to the kernel
[17:24] <gabe-20> TJ: awesome... what do you think it is please?
[17:24] <TJ-> gabe-20: Do you see a module listed with this command? "lsmod | grep ipv6"
[17:25] <gabe-20> TJ: no output for that command
[17:25] <MrELusiveone> missing?
[17:25] <MrELusiveone> :)
[17:25] <TJ-> gabe-20: That's good
[17:25] <gabe-20> yes ;)
[17:26] <TJ-> gabe-20: And what does this show: "uname -a"
[17:26] <Seven_Six_Two> can anyone recommend another distro for laptops? I have an HP g60, nvidia graphics. I can't have 2 windows side-by-side without 1 being blank white, and I can't work like this anymore. I love ubuntu, but I have to do my homework.
[17:26] <mikehaas763> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with the Ubuntu supplied NVIDIA drivers for my Geforce 9800 GT. When I go into nvidia-settings and enable my 2nd monitor and click apply, it turns on and works great. Then I save the configuration to the xorg.conf file. However, when I reboot I get a message saying that the configuration is not supported and that I have to run in low graphics mode. Any idea what is wrong?
[17:26] <mikehaas763> I also just posted this on askubuntu.com
[17:26] <gabe-20> TJ: Linux Study-PC 2.6.35-30-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 7 18:41:54 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:27] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, this is ubuntu support
[17:27] <mikehaas763> ^^
[17:27] <Seven_Six_Two> bazhang, I know that
[17:27] <MrELusiveone> mikehaas763 did you use the 32bit one?
[17:27] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, if you are distro shopping for something outside of ubuntu, then ##linux is a place to ask, not here
[17:28] <mikehaas763> MrELusiveone, it's whatever Ubuntu uses through it's Jockey tool. I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu btw
[17:28] <MrELusiveone> mikehaas763 i would try the 32bit nstaller and see if the support is better
[17:29] <mikehaas763> MrELusiveone, 32 bit installer for the nvidia drivers or Ubuntu?
[17:29] <odinsbane> Damn, my ext4 partition died. I used fsck and all of my files are now put in the lost and found in #99012 directories. Supposedly this happened because I didn't unmount the drive before unplugging the device.
[17:29] <MrELusiveone> the whole thing
[17:29] <MrELusiveone> if there isnt a option for a diffrent driver
[17:29] <Aster> Seven_Six_Two, I'd recommend OpenSUSE or Arch. Arch is really nice if you have the patience for setting up a desktop environment.
[17:29] <bazhang> MrELusiveone, that wont solve the driver issue
[17:29] <mikehaas763> Eh, I'm not moving 32 bit Ubuntu that's moving backwards lol
[17:29] <MrELusiveone> i knwo in some cases 64bit support is limited
[17:30] <bazhang> MrELusiveone, thats not so
[17:30] <bazhang> Aster, please keep on topic with ubuntu support here, thanks
[17:30] <TJ-> gabe-20: We need to do some additional tests. The good news, you're not affected by the IPv6 issue
[17:30] <Seven_Six_Two> Aster, thanks!
[17:30] <gabe-20> TJ: sounds good
[17:30] <Aster> bazhang, it is, it's helping someone migrate from /UBUNTU/ to something else. :)
[17:30] <MrELusiveone> well for this machine I went with the 64bit instalelr but had to go for the newer video drivers to get full use of my card
[17:31] <TJ-> gabe-20: Give me a new minutes whilst I test some options out locally here on 10.04 (Most of my machines are on 12.04 now so I have to spin up an old device)
[17:31] <mikehaas763> How can I check what version of the NVIDIA drivers were installed through Jockey?
[17:31] <TJ-> gabe-20: s/new minutes/few minutes/
[17:31] <mikehaas763> * I'm looking for if it's 32 or 64 bit
[17:31] <gabe-20> TJ: no problem, take your time
[17:32] <MrELusiveone> mikehaas763 my card is a nvidia too
[17:32] <MrELusiveone> a old 8700 one
[17:33] <TJ-> gabe-20: When you experience the slowness, how would you describe it? when web browsing, slow to find and load pages?
[17:33] <MrELusiveone> mikehaas763 sometimes they offer other optional nvidia drivers
[17:33] <mikehaas763> they?
[17:33] <MrELusiveone> yeah under system settings
[17:33] <MrELusiveone> its called....
[17:33] <neojags> hi
[17:34] <MrELusiveone> additional drivers
[17:34] <mikehaas763> additiotional drivers?
[17:34] <TJ-> mikehaas763: The nvidia driver will match the kernel architecture.
[17:34] <mikehaas763> lol ya
[17:34] <MrELusiveone> yep that worked for me
[17:34] <neojags> need a bit of help on g41m combo lan drivers
[17:34] <MrELusiveone> solved all the little video issues
[17:34] <gabe-20> TJ: everything... to make a google search, to open www.msn.com, to click on a link, anything web-related is like using a dial-up connection
[17:34] <mikehaas763> TJ- Ok thanks I assumed so just wanted to make sure
[17:34] <MrELusiveone> but if you have mroe than one option you might have to try them till you get one that you like
[17:35] <MrELusiveone> they nromaly require a reboot too i think
[17:35] <mikehaas763> Ya so far I've tried version current and version current post release updates I'm about to try version 173 if that doesn't work I'm going to try drivers right from NVIDIA's website
[17:35] <MrELusiveone> yeah i tried 173 and didnt like that one
[17:35] <MrELusiveone> ill look and see wich i went with
[17:36] <mikehaas763> What's strange is when I enable my 2nd monitor and click apply it works great. It's after a reboot however that everything is messed up because it doesn't like my xconfiguration
[17:37] <neojags> carthik
[17:37] <MrELusiveone> mikehaas763  for me the (post-release updates) ( version current-updates) one worked
[17:37] <TJ-> gabe-20: Have you tested the speed of downloading a single file to see what the sustained throughput is? That is a good test, because it tells us whether the issue is the line speed, or name resolution.  I believe it's name resolution, but I'd like to eliminate the possibility it is throughput too. Try starting a download of an Ubuntu ISO see what speed is reported
[17:38] <gabe-20> TJ: sure, one sec pleaes
[17:38] <Nikro> Hey guys, I just need a quick tip, I need a fast tool to measure distance in pixels, analyze image colors etc (for theming) is there a tool for that? from the top of your head? (except for gimp)
[17:38] <MrELusiveone> but you are using a dual head ?
[17:38] <MrELusiveone> mikehaas763  youa re using two cards?
[17:39] <joro> gf
[17:39] <MrELusiveone> or is it the signle card with dual hookup?
[17:39] <nikhatzi_> hello everybody. can you tell me where is the initramfs file in the ubuntu live cd? (the latest ubuntu live)
[17:40] <joro> have problem with cam c208
[17:40] <bazhang> joro, webcam?
[17:40] <MrELusiveone> mikehaas763  there is also a nvidia manager app I installed as well
[17:40] <joro> C208
[17:40] <bazhang> !webcam | joro read this
[17:40] <joro> i need driver for him
[17:41] <bazhang> joro, read the links
[17:41] <sparlund> Hi! I would like to ssh into my ubuntu from my phone, anywhere. I have it set up with a webserver and a dynamic ip from no-ip.org. But when i try to acces the computer at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it doesnt work. Could anybody help me set it up corecctly?=)
[17:42] <OpenbsdVbox> !ssh | sparlund
[17:42] <MrELusiveone> doh he dropped
[17:42] <lobhater> hello all
[17:42] <gabe-20> TJ: it doesn't tell me the speed, it tells me how much it has downloaded of the total size but for you to have an idea, the estimated time is 11 hrs and 51 min
[17:42] <gabe-20> TJ: I used to download 700 MB in 20 min or so
[17:42] <gabe-20> TJ: never mind... the download speed is 23 Kbps :(
[17:43] <TJ-> gabe-20: Thanks, that's really useful
[17:43] <sparlund> OpenbsdVbox:  ok, ill read through that.
[17:43] <joro> how to download driver for cam C208
[17:43] <bazhang> joro, read the links yet?
[17:43] <lobhater> has anyone had any luck correcting suspend issues? My labtop suspends fine, wakes up fine but I can't connect to my wireless router once it has woken up. Ive spent hours last night trying to fix it
[17:43] <TJ-> gabe-20: Please pastebin me the output of "lspci -nn; lsusb"
[17:43] <lobhater> it is the iwlwifi driver
[17:43] <bazhang> joro, please give some details
[17:44] <bazhang> !details | joro
[17:44] <joro> thiss  is came for security
[17:44] <bazhang> joro, thats not details.
[17:44] <gabe-20> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1220973/
[17:45] <TJ-> lobhater: The solution is to list the iwlwifi driver to be unloaded at sleep so it is reloaded at resume; I recall vaguely doing it once - I think you add the module name to a file/script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ - see if that clue helps you on Google
[17:45] <sparlund> OpenbsdVbox:  I didnt reallt understand anything. Could you give me maybe a more specific topic? =)
[17:46] <MrELusiveone> is 05:02.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC [168c:001a] (rev 01) your wifi?
[17:46] <lobhater> i did that, i did:  modprobe -rf iwlwifi and then under the resume switch case i did modprobe iwlwifi
[17:46] <lobhater> no go
[17:46] <MrELusiveone> game-20?
[17:46] <lobhater> is that what u meant?
[17:46] <MrELusiveone> err gabe-20?
[17:46] <TJ-> gabe-20: thanks.. now let me have more pastebin detail about the WiFi card: "sudo lspci -vvvnn -s 05:02.0"
[17:46] <gabe-20> MrELusiveone: yes?
[17:46] <lobhater> Tj-:i did that, i did:  modprobe -rf iwlwifi and then under the resume switch case i did modprobe iwlwifi
[17:47] <MrELusiveone> gabe-20 is the 05:02.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC [168c:001a] (rev 01) your wifi or standard lan port?
[17:47] <TJ-> lobhater: yes; OK, I'd suggest checking the log files (/var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog) for clues around the suspend/resume event
[17:47] <joro> this is my camara
[17:47] <TJ-> MrELusive: That's the WiFi
[17:47] <joro> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cross-mark.com/images/cctv_and_webcam/wired_camera/208C.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.cross-mark.com/208cmic-mini-cctv-video-audio-security-surveillance-camera-p-1137.html&usg=___6THrIf_wAkjsJtvrHmZxoTzXrM=&h=400&w=400&sz=59&hl=bg&start=3&zoom=1&tbnid=4N9aFnixxpoF4M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=124&ei=mfldUPOKIYeo0QX42IDgCg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcam%2B208c%26hl%3Dbg%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
[17:47] <FloodBot1> joro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <gabe-20> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1220986/
[17:48] <gabe-20> MrELusiveone: Wireless ;)
[17:48] <MrELusiveone> ok was wondering so its not a realtech or other large named brand
[17:48] <lobhater> TJ-: i have, the one thing that is really weird i think at least is after resume it is sending directed probe requests to the mac address of my wirelessrouter, which is normal but there is never a response
[17:48] <MrELusiveone> the name youw ere quoting earlyer must have been for your router
[17:48] <gabe-20> TJ: Please allow me 20 min to go pick-up my wife from the grocery store, I will be right back :)
[17:49] <TJ-> gabe-20: See bug #568090
[17:49] <rawburt> tell me this isn't true: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed
[17:49] <MrELusiveone> TJ- i wonder if the driver got changed a little since the update
[17:50] <joro> tell me spanish room for ubuntu
[17:50] <joro> please
[17:50] <IdleOne> !es
[17:50] <bazhang> #ubuntu-es
[17:50] <bazhang> rawburt, yes, 12.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1
[17:50] <joro> heeelp me for cam driver
[17:51] <lobhater> TJ:- is there a way for me to stop sleep.d from taking any action on my wireless device and just allow me to handle it 100% myself?  I have tried adding scripts that get called before suspend happens that brings down wlan0, unloads the kern mod gracefully but it still wont resume after it wakes up even when i reload the kern mod and bring up the interface etc etc
[17:51] <MrELusiveone> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568090
[17:52] <lobhater> i have searched and searched but does anyone know of a good resource for the exact steps 2.04
[17:52] <lobhater> 12.04 takes to susoend
[17:52] <lobhater> sorry hit enter on accident
[17:54] <lobhater> any one any good with suspend issues and wireless cards?
[17:54] <Dantevios> Where does QEMU fit in with XEN and Project Kronos?
[17:54] <compdoc> where did it ever fit in?
[17:55] <Aster> I have two gpus, one is from Nvidia, and has two displays on it. The other is integrated into my i7 2600, and has one display on it. All three displays work fine on Windows, but on Linux (more specifically, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS), only the NVidia displays work. And when certain programs run, I get a "RandR extension is not present" error.
[17:55] <Aster> Any ideas?
[17:55] <lobhater> forgive how stupid this ? is but how do you get a list of rooms?
[17:55] <maplesoft> iam using ssh -D 8080 -i key user server addres to my vps and then useing <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 as proxy server on my browser options. i cant browse by that way. i have allowed 8080 port for servers firewal. what can be the reason of failur?
[17:55] <bazhang> !alis | lobhater
[17:55] <MrELusiveone> you do a /list  i think
[17:55] <bazhang> MrELusiveone, use alis NOT /list
[17:56] <lobhater> it should be -P not _D to start with
[17:56] <r1ghtbyte> !alis
[17:56] <lobhater> !alis
[17:56] <bazhang> r1ghtbyte, /msg alis
[17:56] <MrELusiveone> but doesnt /help bring up all cmds?
[17:56] <bazhang> MrELusiveone, no
[17:56] <Dantevios> compdoc: I don't know that's why i'm asking
[17:57] <Aster> I shall ask again. :L
[17:57] <Aster> I have two gpus, one is from Nvidia, and has two displays on it. The other is integrated into my i7 2600, and has one display on it. All three displays work fine on Windows, but on Linux (more specifically, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS), only the NVidia displays work. And when certain programs run, I get a "RandR extension is not present" error.
[17:57] <L3top> Aster: I would not expect both nvidia and intel to work at the same time.
[17:57] <compdoc> Dantevios, what are you trying to know?
[17:57] <Aster> Any idea on how I could get that display to work?
[17:57] <lobhater> thanks for the room help guys
[17:57] <Aster> L3top, they don't.
[17:57] <L3top> They it is as expected...
[17:57] <woot-0854> Aster: I don't know but nVidia and Linux arn't the most compatable :X
[17:58] <L3top> s/They/Then/
[17:58] <Aster> woot-0854, I hadn't noticed.
[17:58] <Cottus> Aster, i can send you my xorg.conf
[17:58] <lmbeta8> Does anyone know ubuntu repo that as iceweasel? Thanks
[17:58] <woot-0854> Aster: ah yes sarcasim in the morning :)
[17:58] <joro> please
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> lmbeta8, could you translate that
[17:59] <whackatre> i'm installing ubuntu 12.0.4 and my installation freezes during the wireless stage
[17:59] <joro> will help  me same  or not ?
[17:59] <Dantevios> compdoc: how to get an HVM working in Ubuntu. From what I've derived from the overwhelming amount of information on the googles so far is that 1. You have to install the Xen hypervisor, it's a package in ubuntu. 2. You have to use some tools like XCP or Project Kronos's port of XCP to Ubuntu to manage the Xen Hypervisor. 3. You need to setup an HVM somehow to get GPU passthrough to a VM
[17:59] <lmbeta8> iceweasel is web browser looking for
[17:59] <whackatre> i chose "i don't want to connect to a wi-fi network right now" and it's never continuing.
[18:00] <Aster> Cottus, that would be nice. I'd at least have something to compare to.. Thanks. :)
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> !info iceweasel
[18:00] <gabe-20> TJ: I'm back... how do I see that bug please?
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> lmbeta8, ^^^^
[18:00] <L3top> !info iceweasel | Dantevios  I do not believe it exists in repos, you will have to find a ppa most likely.
[18:01] <L3top> erp... that was for lmbeta8
[18:01] <Cottus> Aster, http://pastebin.com/3VFZjH6g
[18:01] <Dantevios> L3top: ? there are ppa repos for Project Kronos I know this
[18:01] <lmbeta8> ok thanks
[18:01] <TJ-> lobhater: sorry; was off researching another issue. Break the issue down a bit. If unloading the kernel module doesn't solve the issue, then it is likely to be higher up the network stack. So, look to see if wpa_supplicant is (still) running on resume ("ps -ef | grep wpa"  - that is responsible for signing onto the WiFi network), check the Wifi status ("iwconfig wlan0") then check the IP layer to see if the IP address has been configured ("ifconfig wlan0"), then check
[18:01] <TJ->  the routing ("ip route show")
[18:01] <Aster> Cottus, thanks much!
[18:01] <TJ-> gabe-20: See bug #568090
[18:01] <L3top> misfire Dantevios... ignore
[18:01] <Cottus> Aster, you are Welcome
[18:01] <compdoc> Dantevios, I use qemu-kvm, and manage the vms with virt-manager. I dont do any hardware passthrough, and Im not sure it even works with kvm 1.0
[18:01] <Dantevios> oh ok L3top
[18:01] <MrELusiveone> TJ- i shot him the link
[18:01] <maplesoft> iam using ssh -D 8080 -i key user server addres to my vps and then useing <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 as proxy server on my browser options. i cant browse by that way. i have allowed 8080 port for servers firewal. what can be the reason of failur?
[18:01] <MrELusiveone> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568090
[18:02] <lobhater> TJ-: ok ill try that and report back, you gonna be her for a bit?
[18:02] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a trick to adding applets to the panel in gnome-classic? alt-rightclick isn't doing anything for me
[18:02] <TJ-> lobhater: I'd love to say "No" but...! :p
[18:02] <lobhater> lol ok great thanks
[18:03] <gabe-20> TJ: reading :)
[18:03] <Dantevios> I'm not sure passthroughs work with KVM either which is why I want to use Xen compdoc. I have read of some success stories with xen passing through GPUs. I really want to set up an HVM that can pass through my GPU to a Windows HVM so I can play Direct3D accelerated games at near host OS performace
[18:04] <Dantevios> but not have to run Winblows as my main OS
[18:04] <TJ-> gabe-20: If you can do the tests detailed in comment #8 of that bug-report, that would help us ascertain if the issue you're seeing is the same one
[18:04] <compdoc> Dantevios, the best vdeo performance Ive seen is using virtualbox. I havent used xen in years, but maybe its better. dont know
[18:05] <TJ-> gabe-20: For the bug to be the root-cause of your issue, *all* your devices would have to be using those Atheros devices with the ath5k driver
[18:05] <MrELusiveone> Dantevios ive been using wine+winetricks to game
[18:05] <Dantevios> Well the interface to the hardware is much closer compdoc so I imagine it would be
[18:05] <trism> Seven_Six_Two: if you are using the compiz session you may need alt+super+right click , if that doesn't work you may have changed one of the metacity settings which breaks it
[18:05] <bekks> vbox does not use the host GPU but uses an emulated GPU.
[18:05] <Dantevios> MrELusiveone: any of the wine configuration tools do not support the games I like to play MrELusiveone.
[18:06] <Dantevios> I think wine has come a long way and is cool but still I have not had much luck with it.
[18:06] <MrELusiveone> Dantevios yeah you have to tweak it
[18:06] <Derpian> what is the apt-get command that holds packages (Much like aptitude)?
[18:07] <Klavier> how can i upgrade firefox 14 to 15.1,  cant find .deb package
[18:07] <bazhang> !pinning | Derpian you mean this?
[18:07] <MrELusiveone> Dantevios i had to supply dll's as needed but the options in wine makes it easy
[18:07] <Dantevios> Besides there is more than just using a hypervisor to pass through hardware to an HVM to play
[18:07] <Derpian> Klavier: wait till they update it in the repo or go to mozillas site
[18:07] <Dantevios> that I want to do
[18:08] <Ghotswa> Hello to the most Amazing OS Community !!
[18:08] <bazhang> Klavier, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[18:08] <MrELusiveone> Dantevios  and ive used VB and VMware before, but i like wine better
[18:08] <bazhang> Klavier, security updates already has FF up to version 15
[18:08] <Dantevios> Xen splits the resources of a computer so that it can use the same GPU for two different machines and ideally what I want to do MrELusiveone is forward two seperate keyboards, monitors, and mice to two different HVMs so my girlfriend and myself can share my computer to play direct3d games together
[18:09] <Derpian> bazhang: thanks, I did not need help with pinning but the article covered holding.
[18:09] <bekks> Dantevios: Which is not true regarding what you want.
[18:09] <Klavier> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[18:09] <bekks> When passing through the host GPU to a XEN VM, no other VM is able to use it - and the host isnt able to use it, too.
[18:09] <bekks> Thats why it is called "pass through".
[18:09] <MrELusiveone> Dantevios  sounds like alot of demand of cpu and gpu forsure
[18:09] <bazhang> Klavier, and its fully up to date?
[18:10] <Klavier> yes it is ubuntu based distrubition,
[18:10] <bazhang> Klavier, which one
[18:10] <Klavier> actually it s backtrack
[18:10] <MrELusiveone> full emulation of os and game always demands more
[18:10] <bazhang> Klavier, thats not supported here
[18:10] <bekks> !backtrack | Klavier
[18:11] <Dantevios> I don't think that's correct bekks. From what I've read passthrough just allows the HVM to talk to the GPU directly instead of going through the host OS
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Klavier  backtrack is a security and networking intrusion distro
[18:11] <bekks> Dantevios: I know it is correct ;)
[18:11] <Klavier> MonkeyDust, i know that iam using it as desktop too
[18:11] <lobhater> TJ-: I am back,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221038/ there are my results before and after.  All seems fine except for the fact that I am not connected?  any insight?
[18:11] <Dantevios> MrELusiveone: that's why I have a beefy enough machine that can handle it
[18:12] <Klavier> it s war horse :P
[18:12] <Dantevios> Howso bekks?
[18:12] <bekks> Dantevios: Passing through an entire PCI(E) device removes the ability of the host and of other VMs to use it, since it is attached to a distinct VM exclusively.
[18:12] <bazhang> Klavier, /join #backtrack-linux
[18:12] <Klavier> ok
[18:12] <TJ-> lobhater: This stands out "Tx excessive retries:38470"
[18:12] <MrELusiveone> Dantevios  yeah i want to build my next machine with 6 cores and have 32gig ram
[18:12] <Dantevios> MrELusiveone: That would be a pretty nice machine. Mine is 4 cores and 16 gigs of ram atm
[18:13] <MrELusiveone> yeah ive doen ym shopping just need the $$
[18:13] <MrELusiveone> :D
[18:13] <Dantevios> I'll have to look up a reference to that somewhere bekks.
[18:13] <lobhater> TJ-: where are you seeing that after suspend?
[18:13] <TJ-> lobhater: Before suspend. And after suspend, the interface hasn't associated with the WAP. That implicates the hardware, or wpa_supplicant
[18:14] <bekks> Dantevios: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough -- Third question.
[18:14] <TJ-> lobhater: look in /var/log/syslog. pastebin the log entries from when the device resumed. There should be some clues.
[18:15] <gabe-20> TJ - MrELusiveone: thank you both for your time, I have some reading to go so and other things to do so I'll come back another day
[18:15] <gabe-20> bye ;)
[18:15] <TJ-> lobhater: What is the WiFi device? USB dongle? internal PCI?
[18:15] <TJ-> gabe-20: Good luck!
[18:15] <Dantevios> Thanks bekks
[18:15] <Dantevios> That's dissappointing
[18:15] <MrELusiveone> hope he has better luck
[18:16] <lobhater> internal PCI, although I have also tried a usb alpha adapter and had the same issues
[18:18] <denaz> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:18] <denaz> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:18] <denaz> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:18] <FloodBot1> denaz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <lobhater> TJ-:  i am trying to narrow down on a line number now, give me a sec
[18:18] <lobhater> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221049/
[18:18] <Dantevios> bekks: but if I had two graphics cards I could pass one through to one HVM and one through to another HVM no?
[18:19] <denaz1> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:19] <denaz1> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:19] <denaz1> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:19] <bekks> denaz1: Go away.
[18:19] <denaz1> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:19] <denaz1> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:19] <bekks> !ops | denaz1
[18:19] <lobhater> TJ-: 316 is where it is trying to connect and cant
[18:19] <bekks> thx
[18:19] <Seven_Six_Two> trism, sorry for the delay. That did the trick. Thanks!
[18:19] <bekks> Dantevios: Thats what "exclusive" means ;)
[18:20] <TJ-> lobhater: Looking
[18:22] <lobhater> TJ-: thanks, i spent so long last night looking over logs my head started to hurt, so thanks for the fresh set of eyes. i even tried commenting out every line in the pm scripts i thought might effect my wifi and still couldnt get it to work
[18:23] <Nightpenguin> I have a slight problem with gnome-session-fallback, it seems.
[18:23] <TJ-> lobhater: up to line  300 it looks good
[18:23] <trennor> you might remember yesterday I was lamenting very slow ubuntu, and I attributed it to Firefox, and I was right: if you're running Firefox Ad Blocker, turn it off, disable it, get rid of it because that's wot was causing the problem for me.
[18:23] <lobhater> yea i agress
[18:23] <lobhater> it seems so graceful
[18:24] <Nightpenguin> If I drag a window so it's partially off the bottom of the screen
[18:24] <TJ-> lobhater: Then it keeps hitting "[ 4342.296739] iwlwifi 0000:07:00.0: Queue 0 stuck for 2000 ms" and forces hardware resets which don't clear the error
[18:24] <Nightpenguin> and then mouse over the "window list" applet,
[18:24] <lobhater> TJ-: i also think it might be  kernel: [ 4331.454698] hp_wmi: Unknown event_id - 10 - 0x1
[18:25] <lobhater> but I cant find out what that is
[18:25] <Nightpenguin> The window jumps back to the bottom of the screen.
[18:25] <TJ-> lobhater: bug #1009878
[18:26] <lobhater> TJ-: im gonna read it brb
[18:26] <grimeton> hi
[18:26] <grimeton> are there any special changes made to the lts kernel?
[18:26] <bekks> grimeton: Changes regarding what exactly?
[18:27] <grimeton> bekks: block devices
[18:27] <bekks> grimeton: Do you have a specific problem with them using Ubuntu?
[18:28] <joro> give   meee   driver for web cam NGS Webcam Sparrow
[18:28] <grimeton> bekks: windows 7 x64 in virtualbox on ubuntu 12.04 lts http://imgur.com/vLpQL
[18:28] <Nightpenguin> Could someone help?
[18:28] <bazhang> !webcam | joro read these links
[18:29] <bekks> grimeton: Windows progress bars always lie, especially when copying very small files.
[18:29] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: have you asked a question about your problem?
[18:29] <grimeton> bekks: yeah, especially when you wait for 30 minutes already ...
[18:29] <grimeton> it's a shame
[18:29] <Nightpenguin> odinsbane: Yes, a moment ago, but I accidentally disconnected.
[18:29] <joro> havent ngs :((((((((((((((((
[18:29] <lobhater> TJ-: it seems to me after reading that maybe there is also something going on with my specific router too? but how could that be? I guess I could suspend, restart my router to see if that does it?  I would be really surprised though.  what are you thinking?
[18:30] <grimeton> bekks: i already removed barriers and stuff, but no change
[18:30] <bekks> grimeton: Then take a look at the I/O on your host. Blame it on windows ;)
[18:30] <acva> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:30] <acva> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:30] <acva> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:30] <FloodBot1> acva: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <acva> new ubuntu room #pardus
[18:30] <grimeton> bekks: same hardware, other distro, and the vms start to fly
[18:30] <TJ-> lobhater: some kind of regression in the driver - other distros are suffering too, and it seems its a mainline kernel issue
[18:30] <lobhater> TJ-: and what dos a restart of my labtop do that fixes it? could I just add that to a script and execute it on resume?
[18:30] <mre> wow thats two ghosts i have on here now
[18:30] <grimeton> bekks: so imho, it can only be something in the chain from vbox to the harddrives
[18:31] <lobhater> yea last night i tried different kernels with no luck
[18:31] <bekks> grimeton: In that case, all Ubuntu hosts should have that problem, which they dont.
[18:31] <mre> it seems that xchat likes to crash sometimes when opening a weblink from chat
[18:31] <grimeton> bekks: so how does that answer help me now?
[18:31] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: I don't know if what you describe is configurable.
[18:31] <TJ-> lobhater: a hardware reset causes all registers to be cleared - soft resets often don't
[18:32] <Nightpenguin> odinsbane: Well, it seems like a bug to me.
[18:32] <mre> any idea how to remove a ghost from here? i forget
[18:32] <grimeton> bekks: http://imgur.com/Mo2eT
[18:32] <bekks> grimeton: The answer helps you in that way, that you know that it isnt a general Ubuntu problem.
[18:32] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: what window manager are you using?
[18:32] <grimeton> bekks: yeah, it has to be something different ...
[18:32] <lobhater> TJ-: i know nothing about that subject. is there something I could do yo forced that to occur without restart?
[18:32] <Nightpenguin> odinsbane: X
[18:32] <TJ-> lobhater: Try rebooting, access the GRUB boot menu, edit the kernel command-line and add "iwlwifi.wd_disable=1" ... boot and test through a suspend/resume cycle. According to reports, that should be a workaround for now
[18:32] <maplesoft> iam using ssh -D 8080 -i key user server addres to my vps and then useing <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 as proxy server on my browser options. i cant browse by that way. i have allowed 8080 port for servers firewal. what can be the reason of failur?
[18:32] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: which ubuntu are you using
[18:33] <Nightpenguin> odinsbane: 12.04.1 LTS
[18:33] <TJ-> lobhater: If that does work you can add the setting as a default to the boot menus via /etc/default/grub and then doing an update-grub
[18:33] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: with unity?
[18:33] <compdoc> grimeton, even your second pic shows its slow
[18:33] <Nightpenguin> odinsbane: No (slaps forehead; I should have said this first) gnome-session-fallback.
[18:33] <lobhater> TJ-: Ok i will try that. be back after while.  Hope your still here so I can atleast thank you for all the help wether it works or not
[18:33] <grimeton> compdoc: i know
[18:33] <TJ-> lobhater: I'll hang about :)
[18:34] <maplesoft> hello?
[18:34] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: I think you'll need to submit a bug if you want to see it change.
[18:34] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: you could also check on irc.gnome.org and see if any of the #gnome guys will help you. Though that is somewhat rare.
[18:34] <Nightpenguin> odinsbane: Okay. I'm here because the bug-support page said to use apport, and apport told me to get tech support, and the tech support page told me to use the irc channel.
[18:35] <odinsbane> Nightpenguin: so you submit a bug? and then you ran apport #bug-number ?
[18:35] <bekks> grimeton: Have you checked the max. throughput of your disks in Ubuntu? Have you checked the throughput of a VM when just using a livecd in a VM and doing the same tests as on your host?
[18:36] <Nightpenguin> odinsbane: No, I meant "ubuntu-bug". Which said to go to the tech support page.
[18:36] <grimeton> bekks: i don't need to test that, to see that it is slow with ubuntu 12.04 lts
[18:37] <bekks> Well, I cant see that here. If you dont want to investigate further, I'm sorry for not being able to help you.
[18:37] <grimeton> bekks: ...
[18:37] <maplesoft> can anyone see my text?
[18:37] <IdleOne> yes
[18:37] <asclkn> yes.
[18:37] <bazhang> maplesoft, ubuntu support question?
[18:38] <maplesoft> bazhang:  yes
[18:38] <maplesoft> iam using ssh -D 8080 -i key user server addres to my vps and then useing <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 as proxy server on my browser options. i cant browse by that way. i have allowed 8080 port for servers firewal. what can be the reason of failur?
[18:38] <maplesoft> both vps and my system are ubuntu
[18:38] <lobhater> TJ-: should i add it to            GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAUL   or   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX   ?
[18:38] <maplesoft> IdleOne:  asclkn  ^
[18:39] <Nightpenguin> ... I do wish my client would stop crashing.
[18:39] <maplesoft> IdleOne:  asclkn  bazhang  do you know the answer?
[18:40] <IdleOne> maplesoft: no, but isn't <IP_ADDRESS> localhost?
[18:40] <maplesoft> IdleOne:  yes
[18:40] <IdleOne> maplesoft: ##networking might be a better place to ask.
[18:41] <maplesoft> ok
[18:41] <talsamon> hello, i have no contextmenu on the desktop and on the panel (gnome/wheezy)
[18:42] <bazhang> talsamon, wheezy is debian
[18:42] <IdleOne> talsamon: #debian for debian support
[18:42] <talsamon> oh sorry, wrong window...
[18:42] <talsamon> ok
[18:42] <C12H22O11> hello
[18:43] <grimeton> bekks: the first copy process errored out with an unspecific error ... osom...
[18:47] <grimeton> dmesg
[18:47] <IdleOne> Permission denied
[18:51] <Nightpenguin> Okay, I just submitted bug #1054708
[18:52] <Nightpenguin> Whatever do I do now?
[18:52] <IdleOne> Nightpenguin: Now you wait and hope it gets fixed soon.
[18:52] <lobhater> TJ-: That was a no go, shoot i had hopes.  One last question.  Is there a way for me to just disable what happens to wlan0 when i click suspend and I will just handle bringing it down myself?
[18:52] <Nightpenguin> Oh.
[18:53] <gurrag> What is the best way to migrate an Ubuntu installation with encrypted ~ to a new hard drive?
[18:53] <MrElusiveone> ghost it
[18:53] <peepsalot> what do i use to scan a document?  i have used gimp in the past, but there is no longer an option to scan under the file menu
[18:53] <gurrag> peepsalot: try xsane
[18:54] <peepsalot> i wonder why it was removed from gimp
[18:54] <MrElusiveone> peepsalot there is some scanner apps availble
[18:54] <peepsalot> is there anything installed by default?
[18:55] <MrElusiveone> you look at the online apps store
[18:55] <MrElusiveone> i was ooking today and say some ones for flatbed scanners
[18:55] <MrElusiveone> ubuntu software center
[18:56] <MrElusiveone> i duno if it was removed from gimp
[18:56] <SlvSlimer> quick question: is sound through hdmi automatically supported in ubuntu?
[18:56] <SlvSlimer> or does it need additional configuration?
[18:56] <MrElusiveone> could be one of those things that if you have a scanner driver installed it gives the option?
[18:57] <IdleOne> SilverSlimer: you might need to select the correct device in the sound settings but it should just work
[18:58] <SilverSlimer> thanks idleone
[18:58] <SilverSlimer> and is there ANY way of getting netflix to work in ubuntu?
[18:58] <IdleOne> no
[18:58] <SilverSlimer> bastard netflix
[18:59] <IdleOne> agreed, but lets keep the language clean :)
[18:59] <SilverSlimer> shouldn't using an open-source implementation of silverlight technically allow it to work?
[19:00] <IdleOne> SilverSlimer: simplest way is to install windows in a VM and use netflix that way.
[19:00] <SilverSlimer> simplest? alright
[19:00] <SilverSlimer> lol
[19:00] <shantorn> no it doesnt, but if you install a VM software then install windows then use windows it will work lol
[19:01] <SilverSlimer> that is so ridiculous though. why would netflix want to LIMIT its audience?
[19:01] <SilverSlimer> what sense does that even make?
[19:01] <IdleOne> SilverSlimer: makes perfect sense but this is offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion please
[19:02] <SilverSlimer> oh, alright
[19:02] <shantorn> windows is the predominant os out there os its smart not to have to have an IT dertment to support a minority
[19:02] <rajnish> hey  can anyone tell me about SVN how to install and deploy it
[19:02] <shantorn> sorry
[19:02] <SilverSlimer> shantom: it'S alright, no apologies necessary. you weren't behind the decision, i'm sure.
[19:03] <shantorn> google this for your answer rajnish ubuntu how to install and dploy SVN
[19:03] <shantorn> some good info on google
[19:04] <trism> rajnish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[19:04] <gmachine_24> Hello. Trying to convert amz (Amazon audio) download to ogg file using the command line. Anyone?
[19:05] <gmachine_24> amz I believe is just a compression wrapper
[19:06] <IdleOne> gmachine_24: Not Ubuntu related but here is a link that should help http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=help_search_1-3?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200593990&qid=1315446811&sr=1-3
[19:07] <karlg> llutz, we have just worked on my /dev/sda2 file system, and when I restart my computer, it tells me : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221118/
[19:07] <karlg> llutz, can you help?
[19:08] <sunnysam89> hello
[19:10] <karlg> sunnysam89, hi
[19:11] <MrElusiveone> yeah you need to sudo the mount
[19:11] <gmachine_24> IdleOne, thanks, but that's just about how to dl the file and play it or save it as an amz file
[19:11] <MrElusiveone> sudo mount /dev/sda2 or what ever
[19:12] <gmachine_24> IdleOne, not as an mp3 file
[19:12] <gmachine_24> ....or anything else
[19:12] <sunnysam89> boys i have a problem whit my ubuntu ....somebody can help me whit a little advice  :-s
[19:12] <MrElusiveone> karlg
[19:12] <IdleOne> gmachine_24: sudo apt-get purge unity-lens-shopping has a contact us button at the top right of every page. Like I said this is not an Ubuntu issue and as mentioned .amz files are basically links for the Amazon Downloader
[19:13] <IdleOne> gmachine_24: oops, seems I pasted a command that is not related to you lol
[19:13] <strywgr> cannot install anything on my ubuntu 12.04.
[19:13] <karlg> llutz, i present you here my /etc/fstab file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221141/
[19:13] <karlg> MrElusiveone, ?
[19:13] <MrElusiveone> sudo mount /dev/sda2 or what ever
[19:13] <MrElusiveone> you can mount it that way
[19:14] <strywgr> items cannot be removed or installed until the package catalog is repaired. is the error.. but when i click repair.. noithig happens.
[19:14] <strywgr> anyone can help?
[19:15] <IdleOne> strywgr: try sudo apt-get -f install
[19:15] <MrElusiveone> karlg try that from a termminal window
[19:15] <strywgr> ok done.. idleone..
[19:16] <strywgr> Package INstallation failed : The installation or removal of a software package failed.
[19:16] <IdleOne> strywgr: Does it say which package?
[19:17] <strywgr> no it doesnt! installArchives() failed: (Reading database ...
[19:17] <strywgr> is the top most line in the error box.
[19:18] <karlg> Dr_Willis , can you analyze this for me , that' s my /etc/fstab file, what's going wrong? my /dev/sda2 partition do not mount on his usual place : /media/DATAw, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221141/
[19:18] <karlg> MrElusiveone, what are you talking about?
[19:18] <llutz> karlg: UUID=C013-7E8E    /media/DATAw    vfat     uid=1000,gid=1000,users    0       2
[19:18] <MrElusiveone> karlg try do a sudo mount /dev/sda2 from a terminal window
[19:19] <MrElusiveone> you know, xterm
[19:19] <karlg> the problem is that, the mount place i propose, is not conserved on next booting
[19:20] <karlg> the problem is that, the mount place i propose, is not conserved on next booting, MrElusiveone
[19:20] <MrElusiveone> well if you want it to auto mount you will have to add that in
[19:20] <sunnysam> i have a problem whit my network , anyone can help me ?
[19:20] <karlg> ok, i will try, llutz.
[19:20] <bekks> sunnysam: Not without knowing the specific problem.
[19:20] <MrElusiveone> in your fstab
[19:20] <strywgr> items cannot be removed or installed until the package catalog is repaired. is the error..
[19:21] <MrElusiveone> karlg i was just saying you could mount it manualy
[19:22] <sunnysam> i have two computers one pc and on laptop and i can't make conection betwean them on network
[19:22] <bekks> sunnysam: And both are using a network cable each?
[19:23] <gmachine_24> IdleOne - yes, I see that you're correct about the amz files. There must be a way to dl it as a media file - I'll keep checking. Thanks.
[19:24] <sunnysam> i have router and on my pc i use cable and on the laptop i use wireless
[19:26] <syahjb74> kampung
[19:26] <karlg> hi, llutz, my problem  is'nt solved
[19:26] <llutz> karlg: pastebin output of "sudo blkid /dev/sda2" and "ls -l /media" please
[19:26] <MrElusiveone> karlg post how it looks now
[19:27] <karlg> on rebooting, it tells that it 's impossible to mount DATAw on /media/DATAw.
[19:28] <llutz> karlg: "sudo mkdir /media/DATAw && mount /media/DATAw"
[19:28] <MrElusiveone> do a mkdir /media/DATAw      ??
[19:28] <MrElusiveone> well sudo
[19:29] <karlg> llutz, that's the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221168/
[19:30] <llutz> karlg: "ls -l /media"
[19:32] <karlg> that's the result llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221174/. but i have to tell you that I have mount DATAw on /media/DATAw later. this justifes the output.
[19:33] <llutz> karlg:does your fstab-line look like this now? UUID=C013-7E8E    /media/DATAw    vfat     uid=1000,gid=1000,users    0       2
[19:35] <grimeton> is there something like unstable in ubuntu?
[19:36] <karlg> llutz, look yourself that's the output of my fstab file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221187/
[19:37] <llutz> karlg: do "sudo umount /media/DATAw && mount /media/DATAw"
[19:37] <MrElusiveone> take the TYPE= out
[19:37] <karlg> MrElusiveone, the TYPE= vfat
[19:38] <llutz> karlg:does your fstab-line look like this now? UUID=C013-7E8E    /media/DATAw    vfat     uid=1000,gid=1000,users    0       2
[19:38] <MrElusiveone> make it show just vfat
[19:38] <MrElusiveone> no TYPE=
[19:38] <llutz> karlg: it has to look like that
[19:38] <MrElusiveone> make it look like what llutz put
[19:39] <Garr255> does anyone want to trade their $440 dwollas for my $440 gox?
[19:40] <IdleOne> !ot | Garr255
[19:40] <chovynz> root owns some files of mine. how do i sudo chown safely?
[19:41] <MrElusiveone> karlg yeah take out that TYPE= part
[19:41] <MrElusiveone> that extra sytax is not needed
[19:41] <karlg> llutz, done . I 'll reboot to verify  that.
[19:42] <llutz> karlg: no
[19:42] <llutz> karlg: do "sudo umount /media/DATAw && mount /media/DATAw"
[19:43] <MrElusiveone> lol
[19:44] <lorph> hello where is the cpu scaling file for ubuntu 12.04? I don't have a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor anymore
[19:48] <MrElusiveone> kalg you didnt have to restart
[19:49] <strywgr> items cannot be removed or installed until the package catalog is repaired. is the error..
[19:49] <CookieMunster>  G'Night!
[19:49] <strywgr> i want to install flash player :S
[19:49] <strywgr> anyone can help?
[19:49] <auronandace> !flash
[19:51] <brightsparks> Hi. Any suggestions for a good simple program that I can use to encrypt files onto a flashdrive and that I can then use on any other computer without needing Admin rights and where the progrm isn't installed?
[19:51] <escott> brightsparks, gpg
[19:51] <llutz> brightsparks: gpg
[19:51] <llutz> ups, to slow
[19:52] <brightsparks> escott:will that allow me to open and manage and add to the files on a windows computer?
[19:52] <brightsparks> llutz:will that allow me to open and manage and add to the files on a windows computer?
[19:53] <llutz> brightsparks: gpg de-/encrypts files, its up to you what you want to do with it.
[19:53] <escott> brightsparks, is open source and pgp compatible. general purpose file encryption tool
[19:53] <RamtinA> hi i installed mediafire from a deb file , after that the packeges are broken , how can i fix it?
[19:54] <brightsparks> llutz: ok thanks
[19:54] <brightsparks> escott: ok thanks
[19:55] <Cottus> about flash, you may wanna check out lightspark
[19:55] <Cottus> !lightspark | Cottus
[19:55] <RamtinA> how can i fix broken packages?
[19:58] <OerHeks> RamtinA, sudo apt-get install -f
[19:58] <chovynz> !lightspark | chovynz
[19:58] <RamtinA>  OerHeks: dont work , i tested it before
[19:58] <Brustofski-Fan> Where can i find an ubuntu download for the powerpc
[19:59] <jrib> !ppc | Brustofski-Fan
[19:59] <OerHeks> RamtinA, contact the owner of the deb it is not in softwarecentre, is it?
[20:00] <RamtinA>  OerHeks: no it's not in softeware center. the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221222/
[20:02] <Derpian> Hello, when I try to change my full name in Users and Groups, it changes then I hit close, but then I open users and groups but then it didn't change
[20:02] <Derpian> I even tried restarting
[20:05] <pth> Derpian: I have heard of a similar bug. Have you tried to search for it?
[20:05] <Derpian> yeah, no luck
[20:05] <pth> Derpian: Stand by.
[20:06] <OerHeks> ehm, you might need to logout and log back in again to take effect?
[20:06] <pth> Derpian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/773357
[20:06] <OerHeks> user name is too heavy to change on the fly
[20:07] <guntbert_> chovynz: which files? how many?
[20:07] <bekks> OerHeks: He's not changing the user name, but the full name only.
[20:07] <Derpian> that's not the bug I get
[20:07] <Derpian> I'm not using ubuntu one
[20:07] <Derpian> I just do the local Users and Groups
[20:07] <Derpian> and try to change my full name
[20:08] <Derpian> then it allows it then i close then I open users and groups again, no change
[20:08] <guntbert_> !enter | Derpian
[20:08]  * truexfan81 is having a problem after the last batch of updates to 12.04
[20:09] <truexfan81> it seems to be ignoring my power management settings
[20:09] <truexfan81> displays are going to sleep even tho all settings are set to never
[20:09] <truexfan81> whats going on here?
[20:10] <bekks> truexfan81: Did you set your displays (physical ones) to not go to sleep?
[20:10] <truexfan81> bekks: yes
[20:10] <truexfan81> bekks: it is a software issue, they wake up when i move the mouse
[20:11] <bekks> truexfan81: That doesnt indicate a software issue.
[20:11] <chovynz> guntbert_: thanks for replying. I figured it out
[20:11] <bekks> truexfan81: It just indicates that they wake up when you move the mouse.
[20:11] <guntbert_> chovynz: fine :)
[20:12] <truexfan81> bekks: also as i said, i did not have this problem until the last batch of updates
[20:12] <rkokkelk> Hey guys! Has anyone suggestions on how to effectively force application to be always place 1 physical screen (I've got 2). I've tried using DISPLAY but that forces me to make a lot of small scripts
[20:12] <jrib> rkokkelk: devilspie maybe :x
[20:13] <truexfan81> anyone?
[20:13] <rkokkelk> jrib: Tried that one, didn't really work for me but I think I have to take another look!
[20:13] <jrib> truexfan81: pastebin output of « xset q »
[20:13] <jrib> rkokkelk: well I'm not sure it will do what you ask; I haven't used it in a very long time
[20:15] <truexfan81> jrib: http://pastebin.com/gpRTL2ss
[20:15] <truexfan81> do you need the one from my netbook? it is doing this also
[20:15] <jrib> truexfan81: you still have screensaver with blanking enabled after 10 minutes of inactivity
[20:16] <truexfan81> jrib: gui is not showing that
[20:17] <AaronCampbell> Is there a walkthrough someone could point me to for moving my home directory to a separate drive?
[20:17] <jrib> truexfan81: modify with xset and see if your monitor stops blanking; we can proceed from there
[20:17] <jrib> !separatehome | AaronCampbell
[20:18] <truexfan81> jrib: was xset s off the correct command?
[20:18] <jrib> truexfan81: maybe
[20:19] <truexfan81> its not real clear on how to do it, so i was guessing a bit
[20:19] <jrib> truexfan81: that sounds right
[20:26] <truexfan81> jrib: that seems to have fixed it
[20:26] <truexfan81> i did the same command on my netbook
[20:27] <jrib> truexfan81: ok, now you must figure out why the gui doesn't change that setting
[20:27] <k4r1m> I can't seem to able to connect to the internet via my ubuntu machine anymore, I can connect to my router admin page no problem and I also tried the same hardline I'm using on a macbook and it worked fine.. It was working fine yesterday, Last thing I did was run an update and install ubuntu tweaks and myunity.. can anyone else?
[20:27] <sarrous> hi all. has any one installed blender on ubuntu?
[20:27] <jrib> sarrous: ask your real question
[20:27] <SiDz> anyone know the syntax of /etc/debsums-ignore ? i cant find
[20:27] <truexfan81> jrib: the last thing i did was upgrade the kernel
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> -31
[20:28] <sarrous> jrib how do i install blender on ubuntu
[20:28] <jrib> !software | sarrous
[20:28] <jrib> sarrous: blender is in the repositories; use your favorite package manager
[20:28] <truexfan81> jrib: i'll try to catch you tomorrow, i'm a hour and a half past bed time now
[20:28] <sarrous> jrib. thats an old version. trying to get new one on machine
[20:29] <jrib> SiDz: read /usr/share/doc/debsums/README
[20:29] <jrib> sarrous: what's the new one do that the old one doesn't?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> sarrous  software center, synaptic, apt-get install, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/ or http://appnr.com/
[20:30] <sarrous> jrib. lots, i'm taking it that your not a blender user
[20:30] <jrib> sarrous: well 2.62 is the repositories and the latest release is 2.63
[20:31] <sarrous> I'm showing 2.58 in the res
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> sarrous  if you're using the very newest version of things, you're a pioneer and can't expect much help or support
[20:31] <jrib> sarrous: what ubuntu version?
[20:32] <sarrous> jrib. from the sounds of it an old one. how do i find out?
[20:32] <Guest26049> this is going to sound stupid but where do I install the grub bootloader?
[20:32] <jrib> !version | sarrous
[20:32] <MrElusiveone> geeze what ever could be wrong with just Version?
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> sarrous  type lsb_release -sd
[20:33] <MrElusiveone> the simple cmds in life would be nice
[20:33] <MrElusiveone> :D
[20:33] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: -sd?  don't you mean -sc?
[20:33] <Jordan_U> Guest26049: grub's boot sector should always go in the MBR, so something like "sda" or "sdb", and *not* a partition like "sda3".
[20:33] <sarrous> ah thats why 11.10
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  whatever you prefer
[20:33] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: oh sorry, sd does show version.  my bad.
[20:34] <MrElusiveone> its like how could any ever think that sd stands for ver?
[20:34] <jrib> MrElusiveone: the documentation :x
[20:34] <MrElusiveone> ok so its been documented
[20:35] <MrElusiveone> but does it sound right?
[20:35] <jrib> MrElusiveone: man lsb_release
[20:35] <rolling2k><PHONE_NUMBER>376672 0115 172 APPROVED! BANK: |FIRST_CITIZENS_BANK_AND_TRUST_COMPANY_OF_SOUTH_CAROLINA|DEBIT|CLASSIC|UNITED_STATES_OF_AMERICA|
[20:35] <jrib> what on earth
[20:36] <jrib> rolling2k: stop please
[20:36] <rolling2k> looooooooool
[20:36] <MrElusiveone> man back in the day BASIC was simple.
[20:36] <MrElusiveone> :P
[20:37] <MrElusiveone> wth
[20:37] <rolling2k><PHONE_NUMBER>488592 0215 499 APPROVED! BANK: |FIRST_CITIZENS_BANK_AND_TRUST_COMPANY_OF_SOUTH_CAROLINA|DEBIT|CLASSIC|UNITED_STATES_OF_AMERICA|
[20:37] <jrib> sarrous: as to how you should proceed... If you were planning on upgrading to 12.04 anyway, then that should sort you out.  If you want to stay on 11.10, then you could see if the version available in 12.04 is available in the backports repository, and if not, backport it yourself (you can ask ubottu about this).  Finally, you could choose to use the tar.gz that blender.org provides but that means that you
[20:37] <jrib> will forever be responsible for updating it
[20:37] <MrElusiveone> why are you posting that here?
[20:37] <k4r1m> anyone?
[20:37] <MrElusiveone> LOL
[20:37] <sparlund> rolling2k, wtf :P
[20:38] <rolling2k> hahahaa
[20:38] <rolling2k> spend spend spend
[20:38] <rolling2k> buy new ubuntus
[20:38] <IdleOne> rolling2k: stop please
[20:38] <bkerensa> rolling2k: knock it off
[20:38] <rolling2k> ok
[20:38] <rolling2k> sorry
[20:38] <sparlund> rolling2k:  you have a weird sense of humour.. ;) doing ads for banks
[20:38] <rolling2k> no more
[20:38] <rolling2k> im crazy
[20:38] <rolling2k> mental
[20:38] <rolling2k> :D
[20:38] <FloodBot1> rolling2k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <sparlund> e
[20:38] <bkerensa> rolling2k: stop now
[20:38] <sparlund> wops.
[20:39] <Guest26049> It fails to install the bootloader in /dev/sda
[20:39] <sarrous> jrib. thanks for the help. I'll have to look in to updating the ubuntu, noob question can i do that with out a reinstall?
[20:39] <sparlund> That's innovating marketing. Hitting up random irc-chats and just flood your ads :P
[20:39] <jrib> !upgrade | sarrous
[20:39] <bkerensa> !offtopic | sparlund
[20:39] <jrib> sarrous: yep, you just use update-manager (see ubottu's links)
[20:39] <MrElusiveone> reinstall is quicker isnt it?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Guest26049: Can you post a screenshot of the exact error message?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Guest26049
[20:40] <sarrous> jrib thanks again
[20:40] <sarrous> ubotto thanks
[20:41] <MrElusiveone> i was looking in the develop ment apps for ubantu and didnt see anything about C
[20:41] <MrElusiveone> err ubuntu
[20:42] <fxn> is there a way not to launch the Dash when pressing the Super key? I have disabled "Key to Show the HUD" in the settings, but it does not help
[20:42] <zykotick9> MrElusiveone: gcc?
[20:42] <MrElusiveone> no not gcc
[20:42] <MrElusiveone> thats a compiler
[20:42] <MrElusiveone> what is normaly used in app creation?
[20:42] <Lyxer01> MrElusiveone: there are alot of IDEs for C
[20:42] <jrib> MrElusiveone: ed?
[20:42] <rolling2k> WHO HAVE UNLIMITED SMTP SERVER FOR USAGE
[20:43] <zykotick9> !ide
[20:43]  * rolling2k OFFERS UNLIMITED CARDS
[20:43] <jrib> rolling2k: no caps and stap on the topic of ubuntu support
[20:43] <rolling2k> WWW.FBI.GOV
[20:43] <rolling2k> WWW.FBI.GOV
[20:43] <rolling2k> WWW.FBI.GOV
[20:43] <FloodBot1> rolling2k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <MrElusiveone> what is your malfunction rolling2k?
[20:44] <hypnocat> how can i list what versions of a given package are available for install?
[20:44] <vartotojas> Hey. Can somebody help me out with my wine? The problem is that on wine im trying to play lineage2 and when i launch l2 i get message saying that AGP is desactivated...  How i can change wine rezolution?
[20:44] <zykotick9> hypnocat: from terminal "apt-cache policy foo" where foo is the package you're interested in
[20:45] <matts45acp> can someone tell me how to have i differnt log in password than the admin password
[20:45] <hypnocat> thank you
[20:45] <MrElusiveone> ed?
[20:45] <jrib> MrElusiveone: the one true editor
[20:45] <MrElusiveone> jrib you were asking ed?
[20:45] <tsimpson> matts45acp: the "admin" password is always your password, if someone else also has admin access they use _their_ password
[20:45] <MrElusiveone> oh didnt knwo there was one called ed
[20:45] <kelvinella> hi i need help.  I create a zip file in ubuntu but i forgot the password.  how to recover that?  its kind of urgent
[20:45] <jrib> MrElusiveone: you'll love it
[20:45] <zykotick9> jrib: vi is the one true editor ;)  [or emacs if you're into that sorta thing]  </OT>
[20:46] <MrElusiveone> ive been using nano if you mean txt editor
[20:46] <puppy_parade> So, AMD released OSS drivers earler this year. Are they integrated yet? Will they be in 12.10?
[20:46] <MrElusiveone> ill ook at ed
[20:46] <jrib> MrElusiveone: I am joking, but you will probably enjoy learning about it
[20:46] <puppy_parade> OSS Radeon 7000 drivers
[20:46] <MrElusiveone> oh is it like stone aged or something
[20:47] <zykotick9> puppy_parade: AMD/ATI's "open" drivers, still require non-free firmware... :(
[20:47] <jrib> MrElusiveone: well it's a step up from opening your hard drive up and using a magnet
[20:47] <MrElusiveone> already have it :P
[20:47] <puppy_parade> zykotick9, I don't follow. Is there something explaining that?
[20:47] <MrElusiveone> heh
[20:48] <MrElusiveone> you could just open your hd and take the magnets out
[20:48] <MrElusiveone> now yer talking some fun
[20:48] <MrElusiveone> but seriously what is the best development package in ubuntu?
[20:48] <jrib> kelvinella: recreate the zip with a new password
[20:48] <MrElusiveone> for doing common apps
[20:48] <zykotick9> !best | MrElusiveone
[20:49] <kelvinella> jrib, what do u mean?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> MrElusiveone  start here http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[20:49] <jrib> kelvinella: you created a zip from some files you have, right?  So create a new zip from those same files but this time remember the password
[20:49] <vartotojas> Hey. Can somebody help me out with my wine? The problem is that on wine im trying to play lineage2 and when i launch l2 i get message saying that AGP is desactivated...  How i can change wine rezolution?
[20:49] <kelvinella> jrib, i have the file i wont be asking it here
[20:50] <MrElusiveone> ok i see the picture  but what is that program?
[20:50] <kelvinella> jrib, the story is this, it is companys sensitive file so i compress it twice
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> MrElusiveone  Quickly uses Glade to create python apps
[20:50] <kelvinella> and has 2 different passwords
[20:50] <MrElusiveone> python and gtk
[20:50] <zykotick9> vartotojas: i'd try asking in #winehq myself...
[20:50] <kelvinella> i remember the second one but i forgot the first
[20:50] <MrElusiveone> i see
[20:51] <vartotojas> ah Oo
[20:51] <vartotojas> ty mate
[20:51] <MrElusiveone> thank you for the link
[20:51] <kelvinella> i am so dead the deadline is coming in nov
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> MrElusiveone  also, use Devhelp (it's in the repos)
[20:52] <MrElusiveone> quickly
[20:52] <kelvinella> i try all my passwords but still cant unzip
[20:52] <MrElusiveone> looks liek this could be fun
[20:52] <jrib> kelvinella: try fcrackzip
[20:52] <kelvinella> but the funny thing is i try password "facebook" it does uncompress the directory inside it
[20:53] <kelvinella> but no file in the directory strange
[20:53] <MrElusiveone> ok MonkeyDust
[20:53] <kelvinella> how to use fcrackzip
[20:53] <jrib> kelvinella: you'll have to read its documentation
[20:56] <MrElusiveone> man. you start install quickly and its does take a bit :P
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> MrElusiveone  has seen the light :)
[20:57] <geekwani> help:LAMP - /var/www/ keeps on changing permission to read only after every edit to a containing file.. how to permanently chmod 'www' folder to 777 ? (have googled a lot on this)
[20:57] <zykotick9> geekwani: fyi/side note.  trying to change /var/www to 777 is a poor idea...
[20:57] <jrib> geekwani: umm, how does permission change exactly?  Be specific
[20:58] <geekwani> i think now, i am allowed to edit files..  but when viewing remotely..i'm not allowed
[20:58] <geekwani> i tried changing using su
[20:58] <geekwani> @zykotick9 its only for personal use in a VM
[20:59] <jrib> geekwani: if you're not specific, it's hard to help you.
[20:59] <geekwani> sry
[20:59] <zykotick9> geekwani: what do you mean by "remotely" then?
[21:00] <chovynz> geekwani who is owner?
[21:00] <geekwani> accessing outside VM
[21:00] <geekwani> i am
[21:00] <geekwani> basically i'm running ubuntu server in VM
[21:01] <geekwani> on that i run cloud9 ide (browser based ide) to edit files in /var/ww
[21:01] <geekwani> every time make an edit to a folder in /var/www.. ihave to run chmod
[21:01] <jrib> geekwani: give an example
[21:01] <geekwani> to be able to acces it outside VM
[21:02] <geekwani> ok
[21:03] <geekwani> i create simple html page in a folder in /var/www... then make a few edits to that html file and save.. now while accessing that page using a browser outside VM.. i get forbidden access
[21:03] <genoobie> hey all
[21:03] <genoobie> just started running the livecd
[21:03] <genoobie> can't seem to get the wireless working
[21:04] <jrib> genoobie: give a specific example.  What is the output of « ls -ld /var/www/specific/example » before you chmod?
[21:04] <diytto> Hey, can I get some help with GUI bot starting?
[21:05] <zykotick9> genoobie: try "lspci | grep -i wireless" in a terminal - MAYBE it will show what wireless you have in the output, if you don't get anything try using "network" instead of wireless.
[21:05] <genoobie> zykotick9, the output of the grep of wireless was empty
[21:05] <geekwani> drwxrwxrwx 6 ashish ashish 4096 Sep 23 01:41 /var/www/html5-css-js-webapp/
[21:05] <genoobie> I'll try network
[21:06] <zykotick9> !paste | genoobie paste it ;)
[21:06] <MrElusiveone> quickly design
[21:06] <MrElusiveone> ERROR: No design command found.
[21:06] <MrElusiveone> lol
[21:06] <jrib> geekwani: well, that's a directory, not a page you edited
[21:06] <genoobie> unfortunately, I'm on another machine
[21:06] <geekwani> just a sec
[21:06] <jrib> !who | geekwani
[21:06] <genoobie> okay
[21:07] <zykotick9> !pastebinit | genoobie does this help?
[21:07] <genoobie> zykotick9, I'll put the output up
[21:07] <geekwani> -rw-r----- 1 ashish ashish 426 Sep 23 02:12 /var/www/html5-css-js-webapp/framework/index.html
[21:07] <genoobie> ubottu, the computer has no internet
[21:07] <MrElusiveone> iam thinking something is outdated here
[21:07] <zykotick9> genoobie: i sent you those ubottu messages
[21:07] <jrib> geekwani: so this cloud9 thing creates that file?  It must be a setting with cloud9.  Check for permissions or umask settings you can set
[21:07] <genoobie> zykotick9, oh
[21:08] <genoobie> zykotick9, sadly I cannot output the text this way as the computer has no internet
[21:08] <MrElusiveone> tells you to run quickly design wich will open glade
[21:08] <TJ-> geekwani: The problem, if you're using apache2, is that the user www-data must have read access to the file
[21:08] <MrElusiveone> then all you get is error
[21:08] <geekwani> @jrib ok
[21:08] <genoobie> but the grep of network reveals an ethernet controller, Atheros wireless network
[21:08] <genoobie> and some model specifics
[21:09] <zykotick9> genoobie: ya, and thats a HUGE drag...  sorry man, i doubt i can help you further.  best of luck - Atheros helps!  type the model number to the channel as well!
[21:09] <geekwani> @TJ-  isnt there a work around?
[21:09] <genoobie> zykotick9, well the model is an Atheros AR242x / AR542x wan adapter PCI-Express rev 01
[21:09] <TJ-> geekwani: Yes. give the directory/file group ownership to "www-data"
[21:10] <TJ-> genoobie: Can you tell us the PCI Vendor:Device ID. Use "lspci -nn" and we want the 8 hex digits from the end of the line for that device. eg. a235:6705
[21:10] <genoobie> an rfkill list ok
[21:10] <zykotick9> genoobie: i haven't started reading but have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/78115/help-set-up-atheros-ar242x-ar542x-wireless-adapter
[21:11] <k4r1m> is there anyone to maybe rollback from last ubuntu update? I think it somehow broke my internet >.<
[21:11] <genoobie> well I had lubuntu and it worked on this
[21:11] <genoobie> so I just assumed it would work on ubuntu
[21:12] <genoobie> TJ-, yes just a sec
[21:12] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I want to use find with --exec to find directories that match a certain pattern and then move the hits to a directory, it is not working, it says that the mv command fails cause the directory has files in it... any way to force the move command ?
[21:12] <TJ-> genoobie: were they the same release (e.g. 12.04) and therefore the same kernel?
[21:12] <genoobie> TJ-, I thought so...but i could be wrong
[21:12] <geekwani> @TJ- , @jrib , @zykotick9 thx for help..
[21:12] <zykotick9> genoobie: i certainly don't have your model - and after initial searching... i really don't know what you should do :( sorry man, i got nothin'.  best of luck.  is additinal drivers (or whatever) on the livecd?
[21:12] <genoobie> the output is
[21:12] <F1CCC> test
[21:13] <MrElusiveone> ok seems that quickly is missing the design cmd
[21:13] <TJ-> HoNgOuRu: "find . -type d -name 'somename*' -exec mv {} /path/to/destination/dir/ \; "
[21:13] <zykotick9> F1CCC: fail.
[21:13] <HoNgOuRu> TJ-, that command exactly is what Im using
[21:14] <genoobie> "07:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:001c] (rev 01)
[21:14] <TJ-> HoNgOuRu: Did you include the trailing "/" on the destination directory-name of the 'mv' command?
[21:14] <TJ-> genoobie: thanks, we can look up specifics now for PCI device 168C:001C
[21:14] <genoobie> TJ-, where?
[21:14] <TJ-> genoobie: Everywhere!
[21:14] <chovynz> how do i lock the gui while it's doing some work? e.g. i've got kids in teh room and i dont want them interrupting the processes.
[21:15] <HoNgOuRu> TJ-,  YES !
[21:15] <MrElusiveone> never mind i got it
[21:15] <TJ-> genoobie: First place is existing Ubuntu big reports, using this search: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/?field.searchtext=168C%3A001C&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_pa
[21:15] <TJ-> tch=&field.has_no_package=
[21:15] <HoNgOuRu> it says "it cant delete the objective: its a directory"
[21:15] <TJ-> Aghhh! sorry, I'll tinyurl that!
[21:15] <zykotick9> chovynz: theory only - set a screensaver password, find the "active screensaver" shortcut/command/or-something.
[21:16] <HoNgOuRu> probably cause mv use cp and rm
[21:16] <genoobie> TJ-, tx
[21:16] <jrib> HoNgOuRu: no
[21:16] <HoNgOuRu> jrib, then ?
[21:16] <TJ-> genoobie: I've edited it down. Try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/?field.searchtext=168C%3A001C
[21:16] <HoNgOuRu> or so ?
[21:16] <zykotick9> jrib: ya i doubt mv uses cp as well
[21:17] <dantevios> I keep getting an issue with 12.04.1 LTS Desktop and I don't know how to troubleshoot it. Every once in a while (like in a half hour to an hour period) X will lock up and get stuck entering in the same keystroke over and over again or the same mouse click action over and over again.
[21:17] <jrib> I guess on different filesystems that happens (or something like that)
[21:17] <HoNgOuRu> well, cause the error Im getting is probably from the rm command
[21:17] <HoNgOuRu> jrib, that could be
[21:17] <TJ-> Dantevios: check the log-file /var/log/kern.log
[21:17] <Dantevios> it's really annoying and making 12.04 almost unusable. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the ati restricted drivers or what
[21:17] <genoobie> ugh, not really sure how to interpret this
[21:18] <Meris> Dantevios, are you sure it's X and not Compiz that's misbhehaving?
[21:18] <Dantevios> Nope Meris I have no idea at all it could be Compiz
[21:18] <jrib> HoNgOuRu: you probably have some situation where a directory with the same name already exists and you're trying to replace it with a different directory.  If you can't figure it out, put an "echo" after --exec and try executing some of the mv's yourself to see if you can figure it out
[21:18] <gurrag> Should I put a swap partition on an SSD?
[21:18] <TJ-> genoobie: If you're on Precise, then this one may be the closest match. bug #1014263
[21:18] <F1CCC> JN26EQ
[21:18] <k4r1m> can anyone help? I can connect to my router via wlan/eth but I get no internet..
[21:18] <gurrag> I'm migrating my Ubuntu from an HDD to an SSD and wondering if I should put on a swap partition
[21:19] <zykotick9> gurrag: fast - but will shorten the life of the SSD (possibly, dramatically!  i do it)
[21:19] <Dantevios> I'm not seeing anything significant in kern.log TJ-
[21:19] <ampd> gurrag: i wouldn't
[21:19] <gurrag> so I should just be prepared for applications randomly closing from hitting the RAM limit then?
[21:19] <zykotick9> all 4 of my original eee401 ssd drives, still works today (some got heavy use).
[21:19] <gurrag> do people really forgo swap in general on SSD's?
[21:20] <TJ-> Dantevios: sometimes there's a freeze caused by the GPU, or an interrupt line, and there's clues in the log
[21:20] <banzounet> Hi guys, I just installed ubuntu server but the keyboard layout is really fucked up, i tried lot of different loadkeys but there are all mess up
[21:20] <banzounet> Any idea how to fix that?
[21:20] <zykotick9> gurrag: put swap on a HD is safer for the ssd.
[21:20] <jrib> banzounet: messed up how?  (please watch the language)
[21:20] <Dantevios> Like this line TJ-: ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
[21:20] <gurrag> zykotick9: I only have an SSD available, it's a laptop
[21:20] <zykotick9> gurrag: but swap is SUPER important IMO
[21:20] <TJ-> banzounet: Well first thing would be to de-install the language-pack-en-swearing :p
[21:21] <ampd> gurrag: you could go get a thumb drive and put the swap on that, lol
[21:21] <banzounet> jrib: TJ-: sorry guys :(
[21:21] <zykotick9> gurrag: you can run without swap - it'll just make you computer slower...
[21:21] <TJ-> Dantevios: No... you need to look at the reports that are timestamped around the time of the last freeze
[21:22] <banzounet> jrib: Like when I'm doing loadkeys be I get a qwerty keyboard with
[21:22] <Cottus> J-:
[21:22] <Cottus> :-J
[21:22] <banzounet> strange key*
[21:22] <HoNgOuRu> jrib, yeah... something about permissions
[21:23] <k4r1m> I can ping google, If I run ping ip but I can't ping google.com
[21:23] <F1CCC> please :#f1ccc
[21:23] <k4r1m> sounds like a DNS issue, anyone has an idea how to fix it?
[21:23] <jrib> HoNgOuRu: you can pastebin the commands and output if you aren't sure
[21:23] <halp-pl0x> hello ebery1
[21:23] <zykotick9> gurrag: fyi you can't hibernate without swap slightly larger then physical RAM (but hibernate is disabled by default in 12.04 anyways... but can be enabled)
[21:23] <Marcellus> Hello
[21:24] <gurrag> zykotick9: hibernate isn't an option for me anyway; I use ecryptfs and cryptoswap
[21:24] <halp-pl0x> I'm having some trouble with ubuntu server 12.04 lts and was wondering is any1 could help?
[21:24] <Marcellus> is this channel for asking questions or is there another channel for that?
[21:24] <jrib> !ask | halp-pl0x
[21:24] <Dantevios> *shurg* @ TJ- I don't know what to look for...
[21:24] <jrib> Marcellus: this channel is for asking questions
[21:24] <Dantevios> There's no spamming messages in my log around the last time of crash
[21:24] <Dantevios> or incident rather
[21:24] <Meris> k4rim, please lok into the config of the resolver. Something maybe wrong there. Another thing to check is the primary DNS server you have entered in your Network conf.
[21:25] <zykotick9> gurrag: best of luck then. don't bother replying to me further :(  i set people using encrypted-file-systems to /ignore.  good luck though.
[21:25] <zykotick9> gurrag: enjoy the ssd!
[21:25] <TJ-> Dantevios: OK, in case it's a GPU driver issue, also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log - that's the X server log-file
[21:25]  * jrib adds zykotick9 to quotes file
[21:25] <incog> yes, hello
[21:25] <F1CCC> k4rlm on : #f1ccc ..tks
[21:25] <Marcellus> I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 but I don't get the option to automatically partition my hard drive, just to delete Windows 7 or manually configure the partition. But when I try that I'm unable to change the size of /dev/sda2
[21:25] <incog> so how do you feel about amazon adware
[21:26] <jrib> !ot | incog
[21:26] <Meris> Marcellus, how many primary partitions do you have in your current partitioning?
[21:26] <HoNgOuRu> jrib, I think the problem is with the ownership of the directories I wanna move
[21:26] <incog> jrib, you consider it off topic?
[21:26] <incog> 12.10 is adding it
[21:27] <truexfan81> jrib: i just found something else that was broken by the updates
[21:27] <halp-pl0x> !ask I'm having a bit of an issue. I created a server with ubuntu 12.04 server, and i installed pptpd, followed the instructions on http://silverlinux.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-to-pptp-vpn-on-ubuntu-1204-pptpd.html, and when i rebooted, i could not connect to the internet (ie ping www.google.com -> could not find host www.google.com)
[21:27] <halp-pl0x> wtf
[21:27] <halp-pl0x> how do i use ask?
[21:27] <FloodBot1> halp-pl0x: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <truexfan81> jrib: my lock screen buttons and shortcuts no longer function
[21:27] <Marcellus> I have I think there's 4
[21:27] <Marcellus> I think there's 4*
[21:28] <jrib> incog: this channel is for *technical support* with *released* versions. You can discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic though, it's a real channel
[21:28] <incog> so you're not a fan of unbuntu selling out?
[21:28] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/
[21:28] <jrib> halp-pl0x: just ask your question by typing it and pressing enter
[21:28] <brightspark> incog: not here.  take it to the ot channel
[21:28] <jrib> incog: as I said, please don't discuss it here
[21:29] <halp-pl0x> jrib: when i did that last time, said bot told me to use !ask
[21:29] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/ <----- is my problem
[21:29] <jrib> halp-pl0x: no, you said "can any1 help?" and then the bot said  you should just ask your real question.  If you want to use a pastebin, that's fine, but at least include a summary of your issue in the channel (on the same line) when you do so
[21:30] <halp-pl0x> mkay
[21:30] <jrib> truexfan81: interesting.  Maybe check bugs.ubuntu.com .  You're on 12.04?
[21:30] <incog> This line of text is sponsored by amazon.com <jrib> truexfan81: interesting. Maybe check bugs.ubuntu.com . You're on 12.04?
[21:30] <TJ-> halp-pl0x: If the instructions ended up changing the default route to use the VPN, and the DNS server's configured for the PC aren't reachable from that interface, then DNS lookups would fail.
[21:30] <incog> This line of text is sponsored by amazon.com <TJ-> halp-pl0x: If the instructions ended up changing the default route to use the VPN, and the DNS server's configured for the PC aren't reachable from that interface, then DNS lookups would fail.
[21:30] <Doxin> I need to calibrate my tablet, but I'm having immense trouble calculating the right dimensions. my screen is 2560x1440 and the tablet is 14720x9200, what does the tablet resolution need to be to match the screens aspect ratio?
[21:30] <incog> This line of text is sponsored by amazon.com <Doxin> I need to calibrate my tablet, but I'm having immense trouble calculating the right dimensions. my screen is 2560x1440 and the tablet is 14720x9200, what does the tablet resolution need to be to match the screens aspect ratio?
[21:30] <Doxin> what
[21:30] <incog> This line of text is sponsored by amazon.com <Doxin> what
[21:30] <truexfan81> holy flood
[21:30] <incog> This line of text is sponsored by amazon.com <truexfan81> holy flood
[21:30] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/  <---- tl;dr having issues after installing pptpd, cannot connect to my router/internet and "can not find host"
[21:30] <incog> This line of text is sponsored by amazon.com <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/ <---- tl;dr having issues after installing pptpd, cannot connect to my router/internet and "can not find host"
[21:31] <lorph> does anyone know how my /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor file would just disappear? This server is up for 200 days on ubuntu 11.10
[21:31] <truexfan81> jrib: yes i'm on 12.04
[21:31] <seumas_> I can't run 12.04 on this box
[21:31] <brightspark> halp-pl0x, do you see your connection in the output of ifconfig?
[21:31] <truexfan81> jrib: does this qualify as a kernel regression?
[21:32] <jrib> truexfan81: well boot an earlier kernel and see if your problem goes away
[21:32] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/ <---------- problem with ptppd, xan any1 help?
[21:33] <h6sidhu> ter
[21:33] <brightspark> #join ubuntu-offtopic
[21:34] <TJ-> lorph: Check /var/log/kern.log and/or /var/log/auth.log for indications ?
[21:34] <brightspark> sorry
[21:34] <halp-pl0x> me?
[21:34] <brightspark> no i mistyped.  not directed at anyone
[21:35] <TJ-> halp-pl0x: pastebin the result of "ip route show" please
[21:35] <Marcellus> I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 but I don't get the option to automatically partition my hard drive, just to delete Windows 7 or manually configure the partition. But when I try that I'm unable to change the size of /dev/sda2
[21:35] <halp-pl0x> typing /list crashed shockwave flash 0.0
[21:35] <Dantevios> What controls keystroke/mouse input in ubuntu?
[21:35] <zykotick9> lorph: [not much help] but i don't have /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor on my desktop - but i have it on my netbook!
[21:36] <truexfan81> jrib: i found it
[21:36] <odinsbane> Dantevios: how do you mean? X handles input on some level, another level is the kernel.
[21:37] <jrib> truexfan81: oh?
[21:37] <Dantevios> odinsbane: I've been getting this weird issue where every once in a while a random keystroke or mouse movement will get stuck and just keep sending over and over again to where I can't even use the shortcut to kill X
[21:37] <truexfan81> jrib: for some reason mate-screensaver was not running, after starting it, i can now lock my screen
[21:38] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/ <----- can any1 help me with internet problems?
[21:39] <Meris> ops, could you please assume ops on the #ubuntu-offtopic channel and kick and ban incog? Thanks in advance.
[21:39] <truexfan81> jrib: they may also be why it wasn't following my gui screen saver settings
[21:40] <jrib> truexfan81: might be
[21:40] <mongy> Can someone take over this (x)ubuntu install not booting  issue someone is having.. it's a grub thing.   :P
[21:41] <Meris> ops, incog seems to be a parrot bot that repeats everything said on the channel, along with an amazon ad.
[21:41] <truexfan81> brb
[21:41] <zykotick9> halp-pl0x: so just to be clear.  prior to trying to setup the VPN did your internet work?  is this a network problem, or a vpn problem?
[21:41] <lobhater> lol no, messing with preferences now.
[21:41] <lobhater> lol
[21:42] <lobhater> TJ-: I was for a long time,  it is awesome that it works now
[21:42] <eddi3x3> can anybody help me, grub can't find my linux
[21:42] <eddi3x3> X(
[21:42] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: and "sudo update-grub" doesn't help?
[21:43] <eddi3x3> I'm currently chrooted, grub-install --recheck /dev/sda returns a "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)" error
[21:43] <eddi3x3> should I try that chrooted?
[21:43] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: you aren't chrooted correctly!!!
[21:43] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: you need some mounts BEFORE you chroot.  sorry i don't have a handy link anymore (!grub2 wiki page USED to have them)
[21:44] <eddi3x3> oh noes
[21:44] <eddi3x3> rebooting
[21:44] <bekks> Why?
[21:44] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: exit would work just as well
[21:44] <lobhater> I am kinda excited to see what 12.10 is gonna look like
[21:45] <lobhater> anyone else?>
[21:45] <zykotick9> does anyone have a good grug2 chroot from livecd instruction link to share with eddi3x3?
[21:45] <_Tristan> Hey. We have shoddy internet and google chrome often interrupts downloads. I use wget, but I think my wife would panic at the sight of a terminal. Can somebody suggest a simple graphical download manager with resume support?
[21:45] <Meris> lobhater, not really, I'm not into this social media hubbub.
[21:45] <Meris> !ot | lobhater
[21:46] <lobhater> opps sorry all
[21:46] <TJ-> eddi3x3: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sdXY /target; sudo mount --bind /dev/ /target/dev; sudo mount --bind /sys /target/sys; sudo mount --bind /proc /target/proc; sudo chroot /target;"
[21:46] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/ <----------------------------------------------problem with pptpd please help
[21:47] <eddi3x3> ok
[21:47] <eddi3x3> now I'm chrooted
[21:47] <eddi3x3> sudo update-grub?
[21:48] <TJ-> eddi3x3: when you're chroot-ed you're already root
[21:48] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: does it need to be installed first?  ya try just update-grub
[21:48] <TJ-> eddi3x3: so no need for 'sudo'
[21:48] <kostkon> _Tristan, uget maybe?
[21:48] <eddi3x3> ok generating grub.cfg
[21:48] <eddi3x3> finished
[21:49] <eddi3x3> so it should work now you think?
[21:49] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: do you have more then one gnu/linux installed on your system?  if so, whichever you installed last will probably be the grub "in control"....
[21:49] <eddi3x3> it should auto detect windows right?
[21:49] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: you should see all your installs as the output scrolls past.
[21:49] <silverarrow> does anyone know if broken packages in 12.04 will be fixed?
[21:49] <eddi3x3> I only have 1 linux and 1 windows partition
[21:49] <eddi3x3> as far as I know
[21:49] <eddi3x3> I do
[21:50] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: perfect exit out of the chroot and reboot (and cross your fingers ;)
[21:50] <eddi3x3> so now I can reboot?
[21:50] <halp-pl0x> can sombody help me with the effects of ptppd?
[21:50] <zykotick9> eddi3x3: exit out of chroot first (or it'll fail ;)
[21:50] <eddi3x3> I did
[21:50] <eddi3x3> I typed exit
[21:53] <eddi3x3> got it working
[21:53] <eddi3x3> thanks
[21:54] <k4r1m> can anyone help me for a few minutes? I installed an update last night and now my DNS is broken, system can't preform any dnslookup
[21:54] <halp-pl0x> can you help me with ptpps
[21:54] <halp-pl0x> pptpd*
[21:54] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/ <-----------full story here
[21:55] <Meris> k4r1m, did you try restarting your networking service?
[21:55] <k4r1m> Meris: sudo restart network-manager, numerous times..
[21:56] <TJ-> k4r1m: which  Ubuntu release? 12.04 ?
[21:56] <Meris> k4rim, network-manager != /etc/init.d/networking
[21:56] <k4r1m> TJ-: yeah
[21:56] <k4r1m> Meris: /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[21:57] <clouder`g> developing for web on desktop 12.04 should be the same on server 12.04 as long as I keep both boxes up to date right?
[21:57] <zenmaste1> So I just want to make sure. Is this hours or minute? " up 23:27 "
[21:57] <Meris> k4r1m, that's one way to do it, though not the proper way. The proper way is: sudo service networking restart
[21:57] <halp-pl0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221344/ <----- PLEASE HELP i really wanna get my server running
[21:57] <Meris> !patience | halp-pl0x
[21:57] <lolarara> hi i have forgot my pass for my  original nickname.. how do i obtain it through the email?
[21:58] <lobhater> halp-*: can you ping localhost?
[21:58] <zykotick9> clouder`g: why switch?  check out starting from !mini - you get LOTS of options for installing ubuntu
[21:58] <xangua> lolarara: /join #freenode ; they can help you there
[21:58] <TJ-> k4r1m: By default 12.04 sets /etc/resolv.conf to "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" which is a local instance of 'dnsmasq'. Check that 'dmsmasq' is running with "ps -efly | grep 'dnsmasq.*127\.0\.0\.1' "
[21:58] <lolarara> thanks xangua
[21:58] <halp-pl0x> Meris: lol, i spent 4 hours on forums last night, to no avail
[21:58] <MASTERPIECE> aire.irc-hispano.org
[21:58] <zenmaste1> Since we are talking networking.
[21:58] <zenmaste1> I have a simliar issue.
[21:58] <zenmaste1> :)
[21:58] <k4r1m> Meris: I ran that and I got a weird message, "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" and still not working
[21:58] <k4r1m> TJ-: sec
[21:59] <zenmaste1> I set my address to static, and it keeps going back to dynamic on me?
[21:59] <zenmaste1> Ubuntu Server 12.04??
[21:59] <clouder`g> zykotick9, not switching, but if I am developing on desktop then push up to server of same version. should be cake right?
[21:59] <TJ-> Auckla: Not a good idea to ask a question then immediately change nicks!
[22:00] <halp-pl0x> if we are talking bout newtorking can we talk about how i cant find ny hosts?
[22:00] <zykotick9> clouder`g: ya (sorry misunderstood your intentions).  they should almost be identical!
[22:00] <k4r1m> TJ-: I see it, --listen-address=<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:00] <TJ-> k4r1m: did you check /etc/resolv/conf also?
[22:00] <Auckla> TJ-: Yeah sorry I was trying to go to the registered nick.
[22:00] <Auckla> Because I did not know if I as silent or not.
[22:01] <k4r1m> TJ-: check it for what?
[22:01] <TJ-> k4r1m: oops  /etc/resolv.conf
[22:01] <Auckla> Any idea why a static setup nic is going back to dynamic.
[22:01] <TJ-> k4r1m: By default 12.04 sets /etc/resolv.conf to "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[22:01] <TJ-> Auckla: Tell us how you're configuring the interface for a static IP
[22:02] <k4r1m> TJ-: it's set to something else
[22:02] <Meris> k4r1m, does that "something" match your DNS server/ Internet Gateway?
[22:02] <TJ-> k4r1m: There's your problem. Have you manually configured DNS servers for the interface via Network Manager applet ?
[22:02] <Auckla> TJ-: One second. :)
[22:03] <k4r1m> TJ-: the nameserver in resolv.conf needs to match that of dnsmasq?
[22:03] <k4r1m> TJ-: no I havn't touched it
[22:03] <TJ-> k4r1m: as Meris asked, it could also have been over-ridden to be the IP of your local router/gateway
[22:03] <Auckla> TJ-: So I have these settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:03] <Auckla> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/dyDKiGNn
[22:04] <TJ-> k4r1m: what is the IP in resolv.conf ?
[22:04] <Freeaqingme> I have two running instances of X. How should I telll ubuntu all usb devices should be attached to the :0 display only?
[22:04] <zykotick9> Freeaqingme: i don't think you can.
[22:04] <k4r1m> TJ-: the config looks weird though
[22:04] <k4r1m> TJ-: it specifics a domain,  two name servers and search
[22:04] <_cb>  /msg NickServ identify cali
[22:05] <zykotick9> _cb: 4 letter password ;)  fail X2 ;)
[22:05] <zykotick9> _cb: change you password!
[22:05] <Freeaqingme> zykotick9, you're sure? I'm randomly losing usb connectivity in one X instance, seeing it getting attached on the second. I find it hard to believe there's no way to fix that?
[22:05] <maicod> I need to rewrite the Grub bootloader but I can't boot into my installed Ubuntu. Can I bootup from a livecd and then issue a command to rewrite Grub ?
[22:05] <TJ-> k4r1m: find out what set those name servers and where they come from... try querying them directly "dig bbc.co.uk @<IP-address-of-DNS-server>"
[22:05] <k4r1m> TJ-: the domain is a company domain is used by my VPN and the nameservers look like ISP servers, sec
[22:05] <enyc> maicod: yes
[22:06] <k4r1m> TJ-: what's the domain for in this context?
[22:06] <zykotick9> Freeaqingme: i don't think X has anything to do with USB attachment?!?!  well, you run the setup, not me.  best of luck.  hope you find an answer.
[22:06] <halp-pl0x> i so want to change the pw
[22:06] <TJ-> k4r1m: OK, that sounds like you have configured a company VPN in network settings which includes company DNS servers. The VPN is no longer up but the servers haven't been removed from the configuration
[22:06] <enyc> maicod: im not sure if you need to chroot to the installed envionment mounted, or if you can just like   grub-install /dev/sda  or whatever it is
[22:06] <Freeaqingme> zykotick9, I will continue my quest, thanks ;)
[22:06] <TJ-> k4r1m: the domain is what the local hostnames are on
[22:06] <maicod> enyc: ah OK
[22:07] <k4r1m> TJ-: that's true WHEN I'm at work
[22:07] <maicod> enyc: I think it need to read the grub.conf inside the installed partition
[22:07] <zykotick9> enyc: from grub2 to install you need a proper chroot!  that's why boot-repair (or whatever it's called) exists, and is recommended.
[22:07] <k4r1m> but I'm currently at home
[22:07] <zykotick9> enyc: s/from/for/
[22:07] <TJ-> Auckla: And does /etc/network/interfaces get changed by some mysterious process, or is it just that "ifconfig eth0" reveals the changed configuration?
[22:07] <k4r1m> TJ-: the thing is though, it was working fine last night from home
[22:07] <maicod> zykotick9: boot-repair is a rescue disc image ?
[22:07] <enyc> maicod: i'd be tempted to  mount the installed drive first  and mount /dev on [mountpoint]/dev  with -o bind    and similar for /proc /sys...  then  chroot to it (as root)... then "source /etc/profile" then install grub etc...
[22:07] <halp-pl0x> lol
[22:07] <Meris> k4r1m, Why don't you make a separate entry in your network manager config that takes this difference into acocunt?
[22:08] <halp-pl0x> he keeps getting ghosted
[22:08] <enyc> maicod: but zykotick9 points out "boot-repair" / similar tool
[22:08] <maicod> yeah
[22:08] <TJ-> k4r1m: What VPN protocol do you use, and what VPN client to connect?
[22:08] <Auckla> TJ-: This was a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 12.04. I have no idea why it would be changing right off the bat.
[22:08] <Meris> k4r1m, aocount => account
[22:08] <zykotick9> !grub2
[22:08] <maicod> thanks zykotick9
[22:08] <k4r1m> TJ-: I believe it's ipsec and I use cisco anyconnect
[22:08] <Auckla> TJ-: Yeah ifconfig eth0 is shows the change.
[22:08] <k4r1m> Meris: how do I do that?
[22:09] <maicod> thanks enyc I'm gonna follow those instructions
[22:10] <k4r1m> the nameservers work for my mac fine, I just ran dig google.com@ns
[22:10] <Freeaqingme> zykotick9, X also handles all your pointers etc. I've added  AutoAddDevices to one instance now. will see what that does
[22:10] <maicod> ubottu: why does grub from ubuntu 12.04 say its v1.99 ?
[22:10] <maicod> oops
[22:10] <superthebobfredm> Hey all.... I have a problem!  ->  eth0 is not showing in ifconfig -a
[22:10] <Meris> k4r1m, surely you know how to make an extra entry in your network manager? It's done through the GUI.
[22:10] <TJ-> k4r1m: Well, it looks to me as if the Cisco VPN client has messed with the system's resolver configuration and not put it back when the VPN was disconnected. For now, edit /etc/resolv.conf and change it. Remove the 'domain' line, and have a single entry for "nameserver 127.0.01" - remove all other 'nameserver' entries. You'll need root permissions to edit that file: Alt+F2 then "gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf"
[22:10] <maicod> zykotick9: it was a question to you :)
[22:10] <superthebobfredm> I can see an interface with lspci -v
[22:10] <zykotick9> Freeaqingme: yex, X in responsible for input devices, but not really the devices themselves (even in that case)
[22:11] <k4r1m> TJ-: will that give me a problem when I go to work?
[22:11] <Freeaqingme> zykotick9, ah, right. I prolly wasnt specific enough. I meant my pointer on my usb keyboard, sorry
[22:12] <zykotick9> Freeaqingme: do you want multiple pointers?  if so, that could be a BIG issue...
[22:12] <superthebobfredm> but no ethX in dmesg |grep 'eth'
[22:12] <TJ-> k4r1m: That's how it should be. It sounds to me as if the Cisco VPN client replaces the system settings when it connects, but at least once, didn't bother putting things back when it disconnected. Maybe it didn't close the connection gracefully last time
[22:12] <Freeaqingme> zykotick9, I've seen setups with 1 pc and 3 monitors + 3 mouses used by 3 separate people. I however use bumblebee, and attach the second X serverinstance to the first one. So as long as all pointers are 'mounted' to the first instance I'm fine
[22:13] <Freeaqingme> and I think I got it working now, will have to see ;)
[22:13] <F1CCC> Best 73,s k4rlm
[22:13] <zykotick9> Freeaqingme: multi-seat is possible.  just NOT something i can help with!  i tried for like 20 minutes once, years ago - then quickly gave up ;)
[22:13] <maicod> anyone knows why grub from ubuntu 12.04 say its v1.99 ?
[22:13] <k4r1m> TJ-: alright, there seems to be a resolv.conf.vpnbackup and a resolvconf folder
[22:14] <zykotick9> Freeaqingme: i don't have any of the hybrid-video card hardware - not something i've played with.  multiple X sessions is though ;)
[22:14] <enyc> maicod: hrrm im not sure grub2 has even been known as "2.0" its alwas like 1.9 1.99 1.9999 ;-)  maybe one day ;-)
[22:15] <Meris> k4r1m, Nice, so at least the cisco app bothered to make a backup of your original settings first.
[22:15] <k4r1m> resolv.conf.vpnbackup is a link to ../run/resolv/resolv.conf
[22:15] <TJ-> k4r1m: The system does have an /etc/resolvconf/ with several ".d" sub-directories for configuration files used for when the resolver changes
[22:15] <TJ-> Meris: Knowing Cisco, it'll be a back-up of the Cisco settings :p
[22:15] <k4r1m> but the actuall file doesn't exist
[22:15] <maicod> enyc: ah heheh thats what I found weird that its called v2 and it still says 1.99xxxx
[22:16] <superthebobfredm> I also can't see eth0 in Network Tools.....
[22:16] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I was wondering how I can install/enable PHP's PDO for MySQL on Ubuntu 12.04.
[22:16] <k4r1m> TJ-: it's a link to a file that doesn't exist...
[22:16] <ring1> enyc, quantal provides 2.00 ;)
[22:16] <zykotick9> k4r1m: [ i can't help you ] but are you using 12.10?  if so, resolv.conf is deprecated... you're having "internet/DNS" issues right?  are you using N-M?  if so, resolv.conf wouldn't help anyways (i believe)
[22:16] <TJ-> k4r1m: Bad Cisco! bug #1000244
[22:16] <zykotick9> k4r1m: sorry s/12.10/12.04/ !!!
[22:17] <Meris> TJ-, you might be right on that...
[22:17] <enyc> maicod: that said it appears "grub-2.00" has been releasetd more recently... after 12.04
[22:17] <enyc> maicod: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ look at the dates/times
[22:17] <k4r1m> zykotick9: I'm on 12.04, resolv.conf is deprecated?
[22:17] <zykotick9> k4r1m: yes
[22:17] <zykotick9> k4r1m: are you using Network-Manager?
[22:17] <k4r1m> yup
[22:17] <zykotick9> k4r1m: double-yes
[22:18] <Auckla> TJ-: I just set it back again, but like I said this is a fresh install. I have absoltuely no idea why it would be going back to dynamic. You saw my config. :)
[22:18] <k4r1m> I'm lost here, zykotick9 TJ- Meris you are all saying different things >.<
[22:18] <TJ-> Auckla: I didn't see an answer when I asked whether you meant that the file "/etc/network/interfaces" was being changed?
[22:19] <ziggarra> Hey all.. so I am having an odd issue... my computer (running 12.04.1) seems to suddenly power off from time to time. My first thought was that it was overheating, but the temp never seems to get above 47 C ... any ideas?
[22:19] <k4r1m> zykotick9: LIAR
[22:19] <k4r1m> it works now
[22:19] <zykotick9> k4r1m: sorry (i don't see either TJ- or Meris's comments to you - so i don't know what you're hearing) but resolv.conf is deprecated in 12.04 and most of it's setting have been moved to /etc/network/interfaces (i believe!).  certainly don't follow ANY of my advice without confirmation from someone in the channel.
[22:20] <zykotick9> k4r1m: LIAR - i don't think so.  resolv.conf is deprecated.
[22:20] <k4r1m> well I just edited resolv.conf and its working again
[22:20] <k4r1m> I didn't touch /etc/network/interfaces
[22:20] <k4r1m> let me reboot maybe ur right
[22:20] <zykotick9> k4r1m: reboot.
[22:20] <Auckla> TJ-: I was not asking if the file was beign changed. I was asking why the interface was changing to a dynamic address when clearly the config file stated it was static.
[22:21] <Auckla> TJ-: I showed you my config to get your confirmation that it was correct.
[22:21] <Meris> k4rim, rebooting should not be necessary, restarting the networking service should suffice.
[22:21] <zykotick9> Auckla: do you use Network-Manager?  if so, it has a conf file?  where?
[22:21] <Auckla> No, this is all CLI.
[22:22] <zykotick9> Auckla: can you re-pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces for me then?
[22:22] <k4r1m> Meris: well I think thats where the problem is coming from, my machine always hangs on shutddown/reboot I have to hold down the power.. and I believe it's coming from network cifs mounts in fstab which only connect at work
[22:22] <k4r1m> or when the vpn is connected
[22:22] <TJ-> Auckla: I realise that, but I was wanting to be clear that it wasn't the file changing, but just the interface settings. As you have the entry in 'interfaces' file, Network Manager should not be managing the interface, so we ought to be able to rule out NM as the cause. Which leaves us to speculate on what is installed that would call "ifconfig" to change things
[22:23] <Auckla> TJ-: I see.
[22:24] <Auckla> Buy the way gentlemen I mean to communicate with you with all sincerity, and there is no spite or cynical sarcastic atitude here. :)
[22:24] <Auckla> zykotick9: One second.
[22:24] <k4r1m> TJ-: would you have any advice on that?
[22:24] <maicod> enyc: ah I missed your message. LOL so 12.04 is too old. maybe 12.04.1 has it :)
[22:24] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I was wondering how I can install/enable PHP's PDO for MySQL on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm getting the fol'owing error: PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'could not find driver
[22:24] <k4r1m> zykotick9: still working... :D
[22:25] <Auckla> zykotick9:  http://pastebin.com/dyDKiGNn
[22:25] <k4r1m> maybe just 12.10??
[22:25] <TJ-> Auckla: In these cases I often do a 'grep' of the entire "/etc/" directory structure! I'd be looking for scripts calling 'ifconfig' and any mention of the interface name "eth0" too - so e.g. "sudo egrep '(eth0|ifconfig}' /etc/* "
[22:25] <zykotick9> k4r1m: nice.  good luck.
[22:25] <k4r1m> zykotick9: I'll sure need it
[22:25] <zykotick9> Auckla: looks good to me.  no idea why it would change to dhcp?
[22:26] <Auckla> It's wierd.
[22:26] <k4r1m> Meris: about that account thing, it's in the network manager GUI?
[22:27] <zykotick9> Auckla: i'm not sure about process name but does "ps aux | grep -i network-manager" return anything?
[22:27] <Auckla> This is a fresh install of server.
[22:27] <TJ-> k4r1m: I think the Cisco client is the issue when it encounters unusual circumstances. Probably doesn't clean up gracefully after itself. I'd also think you should have a script in "/etc/network/if-down.d/" that unmounts  CIFS mounts when the VPN interface is downed
[22:28] <TJ-> Auckla: check /var/log/syslog - that's where interface-related reports usually end up
[22:28] <Meris> k4rim, I'm not talking about accounts here, just entries. You can have any amount of separate settings for a network interface, that can be switched at your leisure. This does not remedy the default cifs mounts in fstab of course.
[22:28] <Auckla> zykotick9: No.
[22:28] <Auckla> TJ-: Looking.
[22:29] <k4r1m> TJ-, Meris : I'm not entirely sure how the cisco client works, I was told it creates another interface and routes everything
[22:29] <Auckla> Dhclient is running.
[22:29] <Auckla> I have to turn that off I bet.....
[22:30] <TJ-> Auckla: But why is it starting? what does this show? "ps -efly | grep dhclient"
[22:31] <Auckla> I think network-manager is running.
[22:31] <Meris> k4r1m, sound like an ancient TAP/TUN setup to me. If that's true, you can just select your eth0 proper, with zero settings in the VPN tab, unless the Cisco VPN client is more intrusive than it should be. Given your descriptions of  other network config files, this seems to be the case here.
[22:31] <Auckla> ep 22 06:42:22 TinGOD kernel: [54932.634550] type=1400 audit(1348321342.057:18): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/lib/NetworkManage
[22:32] <uberbuntu> hi
[22:32] <zykotick9> Auckla: i "believe" N-M is default on server as well as desktop...
[22:32] <Auckla> zykotick9: Quite annoying. :P
[22:32] <Auckla> Yeah boss the new server is up....
[22:32] <Auckla> Waiti yeah no its not...
[22:32] <uberbuntu> Does anyone know HOW i can install cairo-compmgr? I've tried 2 different repositories and theyre both broken
[22:32] <zykotick9> Auckla: you could ask #ubuntu-server for confirmation i'm sure.
[22:32] <k4r1m> Meris: I'm going to connect to the vpn and see what changes locally in the configs
[22:32] <TJ-> Auckla: network-manager shouldn't be installed on ubuntu-server
[22:33] <Meris> k4rim, make a backup copy of any suspect files before you do that.
[22:33] <Maksim> I am told that a particular program (jar file) will run better if I try using Sun Java instead of the default Open JDK. Is there any way to download and use sun java for particular instances (I don't want it to be default or interfere with OpenJDK)?
[22:33] <k4r1m> Meris: yeah  I just did that
[22:33] <zykotick9> Auckla: my network-manager i probably the wrong process name, but i didn't think nm-applet made ANY sense so didn't suggest that.
[22:33] <TJ-> Auckla: And, even if network-manager is installed, it should refuse to manage any interface listed in "/etc/network/interfaces"
[22:34] <Auckla> So maybe I was drunk, was quite the busy day. I joke when I say drunk.
[22:34] <Meris> Auckla, quite true^
[22:34] <Auckla> Maybe I did not put server and put desktop on this rig?
[22:34] <k4r1m> in /etc/network/interfaces "iface eth0 inet dhcp" is commented and in the already existing backup it's not... what does that do anyways?
[22:34] <uberbuntu> blah
[22:35] <zykotick9> k4r1m: for one thing, using /etc/network/interfaces disables network-manager (the default networking on ubuntu)...
[22:35] <Auckla> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[22:35] <Auckla> If it were server would it say server?
[22:35] <Maksim> lmk if anyone wants to take a stab at that.
[22:35] <Auckla> Issuing cat /etc/issue?
[22:36] <zykotick9> Auckla: you could try "lsb_release -a" but i don't think "server" is mentioned - maybe?
[22:36] <k4r1m> zykotick9: and where does resol.conf come into play? used by /etc/network/interfaces or network-manager or both?
[22:36] <zykotick9> k4r1m: i'm not up to speed on the current stuff!  but my impression is that N-M NO LONGER uses resolv.conf in 12.04+
[22:36] <Auckla> So if I disable this network manager I should be good to go right? :)
[22:37] <zykotick9> Auckla: or possible the exact opposite!
[22:37] <zykotick9> Auckla: you should use N-M if you can!
[22:37] <k4r1m> cscotun0 lool
[22:37] <Auckla> zykotick9: Is that a graphical network manager?
[22:37] <spatrypcbsdcamp> oioioioi
[22:37] <Auckla> Because this is a "Headless install".
[22:37] <Auckla> I have no GUI.
[22:37] <Auckla> Don't need it.
[22:38] <zykotick9> Auckla: N-M can be both GUI or cli (sorta on the later, wireless is an issue!)
[22:38] <spatrypcbsdcamp> hello ubuntu is the best os i have ever used
[22:38] <spatrypcbsdcamp> unity rocks
[22:38] <TJ-> Auckla: network-manager is a service
[22:38] <Vincent0ne-> lol
[22:38] <Auckla> This is for server.
[22:38] <spatrypcbsdcamp> HUD is the best thing in linux
[22:38] <k4r1m> Meris, TJ- : connected and it just changed /etc/resolv.conf to with the weird nameservers
[22:38] <Auckla> I guess I will learn how to use network manager then.
[22:38] <Meris> !ot | spatrypcbsdcamp
[22:39] <Vincent0ne-> ot = old testament
[22:39] <Vincent0ne-> ?
[22:39] <bkc_> OffTopic
[22:39] <ole01> lol
[22:39] <TJ-> Auckla: On a sever with non-changing interfaces you should simply use /etc/network/interfaces. An entry in that file tells network-manager not to manage that particular interface
[22:39] <spatrypcbsdcamp> ppl join #ubuntu-offtopic lets talk abt unity it is a revolution in linux
[22:39] <k4r1m> and everything else is untouched
[22:40] <Maksim> Hi guys.. I am told that a particular program (jar file) will run better if I try using Sun Java instead of the default Open JDK. Is there any way to download and use sun java for particular instances (I don't want it to be default or interfere with OpenJDK)?
[22:40] <Auckla> TJ-: You saw my config.
[22:40] <Auckla> That is what I am using
[22:40] <bustacap> How do  I go about controlling my case fan speeds in ubuntu?
[22:41] <Auckla> TJ-: This is a server with non changing interfaces. The file interfaces is configuered. Yet I come back fours later and it is on DHCP and it has done this twice now.
[22:41] <Auckla> Unless one more question and I will leave you guys alone.
[22:41] <Auckla> NM.
[22:41] <zykotick9> !java | Maksim
[22:42] <Auckla> Well just clicked over to one day, so I know it is not restarting.
[22:42] <TJ-> Auckla: I know. So there's something misconfigured somewhere. As I said earlier, if N-M is managing the interface you'll see copious messages in /var/log/syslog when it does.  Blame Cisco for the unclean disconnect I guess.
[22:44] <lobhater> TJ-: is a genius    2nd that
[22:44] <k4r1m> Meris: client is like 20 years old came with a lucid image
[22:44] <Auckla> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/dfezf620
[22:44] <Meris> k4rim, is there no update available for that client?
[22:45] <TJ-> Maksim: The 'default' java launched without a path given is set by the update_alternatives system. To launch a particular version of the Java interpreter, you give its path explictly: e.g. "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-amd64/bin/java" - you can find all the installed Java version in "/usr/lib/jvm/"
[22:45] <k4r1m> Meris: I'm afraid they would override company specific configs
[22:45] <k4r1m> that are possibly with a different format
[22:46] <TJ-> Auckla: looking
[22:46] <Maksim> TJ- thanks. If I install sun java it will not try to replace the openjdk and give me similar problem as when I installed the python? :)
[22:46] <leaftwig> how do i set up oidentd on ubuntu
[22:47] <Meris> k4rim, try asking around in your company. If you are an employee of a big company, there might be users with similar issues.
[22:47] <leaftwig> *man*
[22:47] <k4r1m> Meris: they all use windows.
[22:47] <TJ-> Maksim: It won't replace, no, but it may try to make itself the default in the update-alternatives system. That can be changed, though, after the event
[22:47] <leaftwig> Error initializing core ._.
[22:47] <leaftwig> How do I copy to the buffer from xterm
[22:48] <k4r1m> Meris: when I asked IT to give me their linux image they gave me lucid. It was a painful upgrade especially with centrifydc
[22:48] <TJ-> Auckla: That log-file confirms DHCP by dhclient, but doesn't show any involvement by network-manager!
[22:48] <Auckla> TJ-: Yeah my same conclusion! :D
[22:48] <zykotick9> leaftwig: highlight the text, then leaving it highlighted, use middle click (usually roller) on mouse to paste
[22:48] <Auckla> TJ-: So disable dhcclient right?
[22:48] <TJ-> Auckla: I'm comparing your scenario with one of my 12.04 servers here; give me a few minutes
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[22:48] <Auckla> TJ-: Np.
[22:48] <Maksim> TJ- thanks !
[22:48] <spatrypcbsdcamp> debian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussies
[22:48] <k4r1m> TJ-: how did you say I can control the cifs mount again?
[22:48] <spatrypcbsdcamp> debian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussiesdebian and ubuntu devs are pussies
[22:48] <Meris> k4rim, it might be worth reading through some changelogs, to see if the upgrades to the Cisco client impact the config file structure. If not, upgrading should solve a few things...
[22:49] <k4r1m> Meris: I'll look into, thanks !
[22:49] <TJ-> Auckla: If there is a syntax error in /etc/network/interfaces, that might explain the issue. I'm checking that now
[22:49] <TJ-> k4r1m: I think the Cisco client is the issue when it encounters unusual circumstances. Probably doesn't clean up gracefully after itself. I'd also think you should have a script in "/etc/network/if-down.d/" that unmounts  CIFS mounts when the VPN interface is downed
[22:50]  * TJ- loves command buffer history :p
[22:51] <k4r1m> TJ-: and how about automatic mount upon connection to to that interface?
[22:53] <TJ-> k4r1m: A script in "/etc/network/if-up.d/" - maybe the scripts should grep "/etc/fstab" looking for CIFS mounts with the IP-range of your VPN. That'd make it cleanly work even if you have your own local CIFS mounts
[22:54] <k4r1m> TJ-: we are speaking about bash scripts here right?
[22:54] <k4r1m> and do I just create a new file it will automatically run it?
[22:55] <lobhater> so i have a server at home and always want it to have the same ip address because i have to set up port forwarding to be able to access its services from the internet.  is there a way to have it request an ip address from the dhcp daemon on the router?  i would like a good resource and not just hand fed the answer if possible.  i have search but all the help i have found DOESNT help lol
[22:55] <TJ-> k4r1m: yes, a shell script
[22:55] <k4r1m> TJ-: where do I put it?
[22:55] <escott> lobhater, your ISP is probably going to change your home modems ip. you can use a dynamic dns provider
[22:56] <zykotick9> lobhater: see if your router supports handing out the same IP based on MAC address (most do) - sorry now resources.
[22:56] <bekks> lobhater: Just configure a static IP from your router's LAN on your server.
[22:56] <lobhater> yea i have that set up on the router to update its ip address
[22:56] <zykotick9> escott: i was under the impression this was on the intranet side.
[22:56] <lobhater> but when the router or server restart the ip forwrading ip address doesnt always match the servers ip address and ihave to be home to fix it.
[22:57] <escott> lobhater, in either case its a configuration within your router you have to change
[22:57] <TJ-> k4r1m: in the control directories under /etc/network/ - there's several named for when they are run. All scripts within the directories are run when the named event occurs
[22:57] <zykotick9> lobhater: if your router doesn't have MAC/DHCP reserving - use a static IP on your server.
[22:57] <lobhater> there is no option to assign ips to a specific mac. that wa my first thought
[22:57] <help-pl0x> use a static ip
[22:57] <k4r1m> TJ-: awesome thanks
[22:57] <bekks> lobhater: Why dont you configure a static IP?
[22:58] <help-pl0x> *im one to talk* lol
[22:58] <lobhater> so lets say i have the dhcp client pool from <IP_ADDRESS>-100
[22:58] <escott> lobhater, in that case they usually start the dynamic ips at ****.100 so you can make static at 2,3,4 up to 99
[22:58] <lobhater> i would have my server requst <IP_ADDRESS> for example?
[22:58] <bekks> lobhater: No.  I did the network/interface thing, and then issued /etc/init.d/network restart
[23:00] <help-pl0x> anyway
[23:00] <help-pl0x> im not using a redl client right now
[23:00] <lobhater> zykotick9	: how do u turn that off?
[23:01] <help-pl0x> real*
[23:01] <help-pl0x> in using webchat
[23:01] <FloodBot1> help-pl0x: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <help-pl0x> xchat is nice tho
[23:01] <help-pl0x> woah woah woah
[23:01] <Auckla> TJ-: However, the DHCCLIENT was still running int he background. Once lease time was up, boom it was over riding everything and going back to DHCP.
[23:01] <zykotick9> lobhater: i can only help with irssi, 'cause i know the !quite-irssi factoid
[23:01] <help-pl0x> im not flooding i type fastmofo'in bot
[23:01] <lobhater>  !quite-irssi factoid
[23:01] <zykotick9> lobhater: oh sorry - got you confused with help-pl0x
[23:01] <zykotick9> !quite-irssi
[23:02] <help-pl0x> zykotick9: thats me....
[23:02] <help-pl0x> zykotick9: in a different room
[23:02] <zykotick9> !quietirssi
[23:02] <TJ-> Auckla: Simple when you know how :p
[23:02] <lobhater>  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[23:02] <Auckla> TJ-: Inbarrasing, I have been doing this for a long long time. :P
[23:02] <lobhater> omg
[23:02] <zykotick9> lobhater: that only works with the irssi client - are you using it?
[23:02] <lobhater> i guess not lol
[23:03] <lobhater> empathy
[23:03] <TJ-> Auckla: It's a sign it's been toooooo long! :d
[23:03] <zykotick9> lobhater: lol.  so NOT an irc client at all.  best of luck to you.
[23:03] <lobhater> anyways
[23:04] <lobhater> bekks: what did u recommend?
[23:04] <bekks> lobhater: Configure a static IP instead messing around with static DHCP leases.
[23:04] <k4r1m> hell of a day, thanks boy and girls TJ- Meris zykotick9
[23:05] <bustacap> Anyone have a problem with nvidia settings not staying after reboot?
[23:05] <lobhater> i would do that through a script on the client side or router side?
[23:05] <bekks> lobhater: You do it ONCE on your server.
[23:06] <Meris> k4k4rim, glad to help :-)
[23:06] <Meris> k4rim, glad to help :-)
[23:06] <TJ-> bustacap: How do you mean?
[23:06] <lobhater> what is the best irc client?
[23:07] <lobhater> so i can get rid of all of this join exit craop
[23:07] <bustacap> TJ-, I'll change the fan speed in the nvidia settings app, and when I reboot, it goes back to 30 (default).
[23:08] <zykotick9> lobhater: xchat is popular gui irc client.  irssi/weechat for cli.
[23:08] <DeltaHeavy> Anybody hear of the #ubuntu Amazon advertising thing yet? http://cloudfront.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/unity-shopping-results.jpg
[23:09] <jrib> !ot | DeltaHeavy
[23:09] <Meris> lobhater, that depends on your personal preferences. I use XChat on GUI's , irssi on CLI's.
[23:09] <TJ-> bustacap: I'm not aware that nvidia-settings saves that option. Look in ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[23:09] <lobhater> well im gonna try it, brb
[23:10] <Dr_willis> Weechat has 'smart' filters for parts/join/quits - so if someone says somting, then quits. I see that.. if someone just enters, never says anything then quits.. i dont see that. ;)
[23:10] <Dr_willis> weechat can also toggle/show all the hidden info with a keycombo.
[23:11] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: i'm glad in included weechat as a suggestion (as i've never used it myself)
[23:11] <zykotick9> s/in/i/
[23:11] <bustacap> TJ-, It's not saved in that file. Is there a way to add it?
[23:12] <TJ-> bustacap: not that I know of - probably best to check the Nvidia nvforums for a definitive answer
[23:12] <bustacap> TJ-, Ok. Thanks.
[23:14] <escapeplan> Please, I need help right now.. I'm using openbox interface and lxpanel on my ubuntu installation, I'm trying to connect to a wifi connection that it can see, but it simply won't open it from lxpanel.. I don't care for the panel just need the connection right now, how do I go about ?
[23:16] <catlover2> Hello all!
[23:16] <lobhater_> is there a way to turn off "joined / exit" messages in xchat?
[23:17] <zykotick9> lobhater_: right click the channel on the left side, hide join/parts is somewhere in the options
[23:17] <leaftwig> how do i set up oidentd on ubuntu, error initializing core
[23:18] <isbric> how do i find out how meny cols and rows the current terminal is using?
[23:18] <lobhater_> zykotick9: thank you so much
[23:18] <zykotick9> lobhater_: glad to help
[23:19] <catlover2> Suppose I have a user called "auser", and this user is a member of the "asdf" group (but not of "users"), can I restrict "auser" to only accesing the contents of one folder? (i.e. /something)
[23:19] <Maksim> any way to turn it off in empathy?
[23:19] <f1ccc> My question: it's possible , google earth witch linux  ubuntu 12.04 ?
[23:19] <Maksim> lol
[23:20] <graingert> f1ccc: yes
[23:20] <Dr_willis> Maksim,  turn what off?
[23:20] <Maksim> enter/exit in this channel messages
[23:20] <lobhater_> Show join/part messages
[23:20] <Maksim> dont care about who is entering and leaving
[23:20] <graingert> f1ccc: http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html
[23:20] <Dr_willis> Maksim,  most there settings/ or plugins for that client.
[23:20] <TJ-> lobhater: As bekks said, on the server configure a static IP address in "/etc/network/interfaces". The address should be one on the router's sub-net, but outside of the DHCP pool it allocates from. That is the *proper* way to configure a server. Your router's port-forwarding rules never need to change after that.
[23:21] <Dr_willis> people tend to overlook the 'plugins' settings..
[23:21] <f1ccc> ok for http...thanks very much
[23:21] <lobhater_> TJ-: as usual I will try and get back to you, thanks
[23:22] <beaty> Hi, I just recently installed kubuntu and kde asked me for permission to allow network manager to access kde wallet.  i accidentally clicked deny forever.  Where do I go to undo this?
[23:22] <TJ-> lobhater_: Like Auckla earlier... make sure to stop the dhclient - or reboot the server - otherwise when the lease expires it'll change the static IP to a DHCP lease :)
[23:22] <f1ccc> merci graingerl!
[23:23] <WeThePeople> beaty, is this bill?
[23:23] <lobhater_> so just    service dhcp3 stop  ?
[23:23] <lobhater_> ill look it up
[23:24] <bustacap> Anyone know about adjusting fan speeds for fans attached to psu?
[23:24] <TJ-> lobhater_: no. I think you have to do "ifdown ethX" to lose the DHCP client, then "ifup ethX" with the static configuration
[23:24] <lobhater_> ok, reading about setting up static ip npw
[23:24] <lobhater_> *now
[23:25] <TJ-> bustacap: unless the fan is on a PWM controller that is controlled by GPIO lines from the motherboard, no
[23:25] <Maksim> Actually it appears that empathy doesn't handle this setting and it has no plugins supported
[23:25] <Maksim> Perhaps I should try pidgin or something
[23:25] <bustacap> TJ-, what exactly is a PWM controller? Is that a fan port on a motherboard?
[23:26] <TJ-> Maksim: bug #660176
[23:26] <TJ-> bustacap: PWM = Pulse Width Modulator. It's how we digitally control fan speeds by sending varying width pulses
[23:26] <OerHeks> beaty open Kickoff and type kwallet  then find the application under 'acces control'
[23:26] <TJ-> bustacap: generally, only 4-wire fans have the capability
[23:27] <bustacap> TJ-, all my fans are 4 wire fans, but they are hooked up to the power supply, and not to the motherboard. Are those unchangeable?
[23:28] <TJ-> bustacap: Does the PSU have multiple PWM controllers that you can program?
[23:28] <beaty> oerheks i dont think i have a kickoff installed
[23:28] <OerHeks> beaty kickof = kde icon at the bottom bar
[23:28] <beaty> oh
[23:28] <beaty> lol
[23:28] <bustacap> TJ-, I'm not sure :/ I don't really know much about this kinda stuff.
[23:28] <OerHeks> hoover over it, and it shows the name
[23:29] <beaty> i see.  and where do i find access control?
[23:30] <OerHeks> beaty are you in kwallet?
[23:30] <lobhater_> well i think i set up a static correctly, now to test it out though. see you guys on the flip side
[23:30] <beaty> No, I realized that it wasnt kwallet i denied - it was the network manager attempting to access kwallet
[23:31] <catlover2> Suppose I have a user called "auser", and this user is a member of the "asdf" group (but not of "users"). Can I restrict all users in group "asdf" (including "auser") to only be able to access the contents of one folder? (i.e. /something) I don't want "auser" (or anyone else in the "asdf" group) to have even read access to any folders other than /something.
[23:31] <catlover2> I think i'll go ask in the forums now.
[23:31] <OerHeks> beaty still the same i guess, to allow network manager acces like you want to.
[23:31] <ring1> lobhater_, you can hide join/part messages for all channels, too. using "/set irc_conf_mode on" and "/gui apply" https://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_tips_&_tricks#09
[23:31] <jrib> catlover2: well you usually want them to have a shell and such
[23:32] <Cosman246> I need some help
[23:32] <tomreyn> hi, i'm lookng for oprofile, but apparently it's not or no longer in precise?
[23:32] <catlover2> Jrib: erm yes, I forgot about that
[23:32] <Cosman246> I tried to upgrade to Xubuntu
[23:32] <Cosman246> with the instructions in http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfceoneiric
[23:33] <Cosman246> Long story short, it broke my packages and now I can't install ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[23:33] <Cosman246> What should I do?
[23:33] <beaty> i still dont see this access control youre talking about
[23:33] <jrib> Cosman246: what happens when you try...?
[23:33] <Cosman246> sudo apt-get install -f doesn't work
[23:33] <Cosman246> neither does sudo apt-get remove -f
[23:33] <Cosman246> or dpkg -i --configure -a
[23:33] <OerHeks> beaty kwallet starts in 1st screen "wallet preferences"and 2nd "access control"
[23:34] <jrib> Cosman246: use a pastebin instead of saying "doesn't work"
[23:34] <catlover2> jrib: does that mean I have to manually set permissions on every folder within / that I don't want "auser" to access?
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> tomreyn, From the web it has been removed from Precise.
[23:34] <beaty> i see i see
[23:34] <chop> tomreyn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137860/why-is-there-no-oprofile-in-12-04 seems related
[23:35] <Cosman246> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221533/
[23:35] <beaty> awesome
[23:35] <lobhater> empathy is still way better even with all of the join/part messages
[23:35] <beaty> i guess that should work - gotta disconnect to test.  Thanks so much oerheks!
[23:35] <tomreyn> thanks chop + wilee-nilee
[23:35] <TJ-> tomreyn: oprofile was removed from Debian due to being unmaintained. See Debian bug #653168
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> Cosman246, Not sure what you mean by upgrade that is just a desktop enviroment change.
[23:36] <tomreyn> and thanks to you, too TJ
[23:36] <Cosman246> The problem still stands
[23:36] <destinylovezu> Hi room i  need some help
[23:36] <jrib> catlover2: depends on what exactly you want to do
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> Cosman246, Were you or are you running 11.10?
[23:37] <Cosman246> Yes I am
[23:37] <catlover2> jrib: what other methods could be used?
[23:37] <jrib> Cosman246: run « sudo apt-get update »
[23:37] <destinylovezu> I am im on ubuntu 12.04 and my browsers barely load the internet and im on highspeed wifi
[23:38] <Cosman246> I think I tried that, but I can do it again
[23:38] <jrib> catlover2: ssh chroot jail, using a restricted shell; I'm not too familiar with any more options
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> Cosman246, If you can give a more indepth explanation of where you are it might help, be sure to include the nick of who you're talning to when you are.
[23:38] <Cosman246> Nope, doesn't work
[23:38] <destinylovezu> *sigh*
[23:38] <destinylovezu> guess i cant ge thelp
[23:38] <catlover2> jrib: OK, that's some more googling material at least. thanks.
[23:39] <Cosman246> wilee-nilee: what info would be relevant here?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> Cosman246, Have you looked at yout apt/sources.list have you changed it perchance
[23:39] <jrib> Cosman246: pastebin « apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop software-center zenity; sudo apt-get install software-center »
[23:40] <Cosman246> jrib: OK
[23:40] <Cosman246> wilee-nilee: I looked at it
[23:40] <Cosman246> In fact, I decided to remove the PPAs and try everything again before coming here
[23:41] <ale> who can help me identify a song? it's an rap song and a woman is singing in the chorus : "It's in my blood"...
[23:41] <Zah_> Hello.
[23:41] <Cosman246> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221540/
[23:41] <blackshirt> hello Zah_
[23:41] <Cosman246> jrib: there it is
[23:41] <jrib> !ot | ale
[23:41] <Zah_> I am trying to underclock my CPU by writing a value to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed
[23:41] <Zah_> However, the value does not seem to stick.
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> Cosman246, There is a sentence that says in sure to be safe backup your setup did you do that?
[23:42] <Cosman246> wilee-nilee: No, and therein lies a fault
[23:42] <Zah_> Anyone know what might cause this? Or another way of underclocking my CPU?
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> Cosman246, Ah I hope you get kit fixed, but a clone of your OS goes a long way, personally I use clonezilla on every install.
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> it*
[23:43] <Cosman246> wilee-nilee: thanks
[23:43] <Cosman246> as for what now, what now?
[23:43] <lobhater> well i think the static IP worked,  thanks everyone TJ- and others
[23:43] <jrib> Cosman246: what's your « sudo apt-get install -f » output?
[23:44] <Cosman246> jrib: for software-center, xubuntu, or what?
[23:44] <jrib> Cosman246: for just that
[23:44] <Cosman246> software-center?
[23:44] <Cosman246> oh
[23:44] <jrib> Cosman246: what's your « sudo apt-get install -f » output?
[23:44] <Cosman246> Yeah, I'll put that up
[23:45] <Cosman246> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221544/
[23:45] <jrib> Cosman246: keep following the rabbit then... sudo apt-get install gir1.2-webkit-3.0
[23:45] <Cosman246> jrib: doesn't work, let me pastebin
[23:46] <Cosman246> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221545/
[23:46] <jrib> Cosman246: yes none of these will work :)
[23:46] <destinylovezu> plz someone i need help
[23:46] <destinylovezu> :(
[23:46] <lobhater> destinylovezu: what is it?
[23:46] <jrib> Cosman246: you typed it wrong
[23:47] <Cosman246> ah
[23:47] <destinylovezu> i have high speed wifi and my browsers are barely loading the web pages,i have to click numerous times and often get the network connection error
[23:47] <destinylovezu> but its still connected and other things are still working
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> destinylovezu, Complaing and asking for help in the first 10 min will have a number of people just ignoring you just a heads help.
[23:47] <Cosman246> jrib: similar problem
[23:47] <destinylovezu> oh sorry
[23:47] <Cosman246> as the others
[23:47] <jrib> Cosman246: I know.  I care about the output
[23:47] <Cosman246> OK
[23:48] <bustacap> Can someone explain to me why at the end of this command it says 'to be written' for a driver that's installed? http://pastebin.com/NhhZhcFA