[03:34] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: it will automatically set up your Windows XP/Vista machine to dual-boot (i.e. Windows and Ubuntu will live nicely together).  When you start your machine, you can chose Windows or Ubuntu.  If it turns out that you don't like it, you can always un install it.  As demospork says, the LiveCD is another option (put the Ubuntu CD in your computer and restart).  You can fool around as much as you like and when you resta
[03:34] <CoasterMaster> rt nothing permanent will be done, but keep in mind it will be much slower than an installed system
[03:34] <Evanlec> !pastebin
[03:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:35] <n00blet> jrib: thanks for the help. that worked good.
[03:35] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: if you are interested in the Wubi method, you can check out http://wubi-installer.org/
[03:35] <takamarou> coaster :  I suggested a dual-boot to my bro, and he said virtual machine first.  Keep in mind that I have no idea what im doing, so im just running off his advice..... so should i DL virtualbox right now then?
[03:35] <jrib> n00blet: np, glad you got it to work
[03:35] <cjae> is there any reason why I k3b i got to make a data dvd is it so slow ripping
[03:35] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: you can try using a Virtual Machine, but they are often slow and will require a lot of RAM to run well
[03:36] <demonspork> takamarou, could you please use the Full name when replying to people?  (it highlights the message if you use our full name)
[03:36] <CoasterMaster> I have it set so it highlights on coaster too :)
[03:36] <ari_stress> CoasterMaster: wubi is very interesting!
[03:36] <demonspork> lol
[03:36] <Scunizi> takamarou, to type the full name and save keystrokes, type the first 4 or 5 characters and hit Tab
[03:36] <takamarou> CoasterMaster : So you suggest doing a dual-boot either way then?  Am i gonna have to back up my stuff, or does it do it for me.. or something
[03:36] <TheCougar> a virtual machine requireing a lot of ram is a very generalized statement. it all depends on the OS. and most OSes can be set to run in a low memory footprint way.
[03:36] <Ice__> Hi all, my problem is that I have a USB Dongle set up and the wifi radar is working and can see unprotected and protected networks but can connect to no networks and I don't believe this is a simple fix.  My pastebin is at http://pastebin.com/m6995b8f0
[03:36] <clever> CoasterMaster: my pc will beep on my name(and sms my cell if i dont answer within 60 sec:P)
[03:37] <TheCougar> takamarou: what are you trying to do? run linux on your computer for the first time or ?
[03:37] <CoasterMaster> clever: you really live up to your name :)
[03:37] <cjae> I think I have dma and all that enabled it seems to be when i write mp4 and avi to dvd but it not like it encoding or anything so why is it so slow
[03:37] <takamarou> TheCougar : yes
[03:37] <ari_stress> takamarou: the safest way to try ubuntu is to use it's LiveCD. it won't harm your windows in anyway
[03:37] <cjae> like .7xs
[03:37] <clever> takamarou: using a program like virtual ... you probly wont need to back up anything at all
[03:37] <TheCougar> takamarou: how much ram do you have on your computer and what OS is your host (meaning the one you have installed now)?
[03:37] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, ??
[03:37] <caminomaster> plis
[03:37] <takamarou> ari_stress : but, if I'm gonna use the Live CD, that means I have to use it everytime.. I want to spend awhile messing around with it.. and I dont want to hassle with a CD everytime
[03:37] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: using Wubi is very safe if you plan on using it several times, but if you just want a quick look at what it is, a LiveCD would be best.  Either way you shouldn't have to back everything up (although it's never  a bad idea to keep backups)
[03:38] <UBUNOOBI1> do I need to be logged in as root to change the alsabase file in: /etc/modprobe.d/alsabase? and can I log in from the GUI?
[03:38] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, What's the problem?
[03:38] <clever> takamarou: i have yet to loose data resizing ntfs to make it dualboot but i think its still a bit risky having linux resize ntfs
[03:38] <Aethelred> I need advice on a better irc client.  Epic4 isn't playing nice in my terminal
[03:38] <takamarou> TheCougar : im running windows right now, gimme a sec to check my RAM
[03:38] <ari_stress> TheCougar: have you tried wubi?
[03:38] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: wubi does not resize your partitons, so there is little risk to losing data
[03:38] <clever> Aethelred: i perfer irssi for console irc'ing
[03:38] <demonspork> !root | UBUNOOBI1
[03:38] <ubotu> UBUNOOBI1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:38] <zerobias> irssi
[03:38] <TheCougar> never used wubi before ari_stress
[03:38] <toyimp> yay its me again.. Well I got Compiz installed... And now I don't have the minimize/close buttons on any of my windows, and I only have one workspace.
[03:38] <nickrud> UBUNOOBI1, no, you can edit with gksu gedit, and don't log in as root :)
[03:38] <CoasterMaster> TheCougar: Wubi does not resize partitions
[03:38] <caminomaster> ah, you've told me i must open the volume ctrl from recorder
[03:39] <Scunizi> Ice__, looks like your router isn't providing an IP for some reason.. look at line 40 & 41
[03:39] <takamarou> TheCougar : I have 760 MB of RAM
[03:39] <chad_> Hi...I was wondering if someone could help me with k9copy.  When I try to launch it I get an error box that states "The application k9copy crash and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[03:39] <ari_stress> sorry, i mean CoasterMaster :) have you tried wubi?
[03:39] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, and the recording input wasn't muted?
[03:39] <UBUNOOBI1> ok! sudo... thanks and thanks also demonspork
[03:39] <TheCougar> takamarou: what version of windows? xp i assume?
[03:39] <takamarou> TheCougar : yep
[03:39] <demonspork> toyimp, did you install compiz-fusion?
[03:39] <Ice__> Scunizi: it must be a conspiracy since 3 other computers are connected wirelessly to my router and all my neighbor's routers arent providing either
[03:39] <toyimp> yep
[03:39] <TheCougar> CoasterMaster ari_stress looks like a vm product
[03:39] <nickrud> UBUNOOBI1, sudo does not play well with gui apps; use gksudo or gksu instead
[03:39] <CoasterMaster> TheCougar: it's not, read Wubi FAQ
[03:39] <demonspork> toyimp, check out #compiz-fusion
[03:39] <CoasterMaster> ari_stress: yes, I used Wubi before completely switching to Ubuntu and my apartment-mate uses Wubi because he needs Linux for work but doesn't want to swtich
[03:39] <toyimp> Installed it how the website told me.
[03:39] <toyimp> ok
[03:40] <Scunizi> Ice__,  Have you tried setting the ip manually? along with DNS?
[03:40] <Stormx2> How do I clear out apt's cache of downloaded .debs?
[03:40] <UBUNOOBI1> thanks nickrud, will try that
[03:40] <Ice__> Scunizi: I'd need someone to tell me what to do
[03:40] <caminomaster> capt, no
[03:40] <TheCougar> takamarou: what i would do is lower xps footprint a little (meaning turning off the fancy gui stuff) and then install vmware. or this wubi (i have not fully checked out yet). but vmware would give you the "real experance" all the way through
[03:40] <Ice__> Scunizi: I'm in channel #ice if you want to come in and give me a hand
[03:40] <takamarou> CoasterMaster : OK, so ur saying use Wubi..  and don't bother backing everything up..  Is wubi fairly simple to set up, or am i gonna have to find a tutorial or something
[03:40] <TheCougar> takamarou: i would not dualboot.
[03:40] <Stormx2> Actually dw, just figured it out.
[03:40] <ari_stress> CoasterMaster: thanks for the link, wubi is certainly very interesting for new user  who wants to try ubuntu. i'll recommend it to my friends
[03:40] <Scunizi> Ice__, sorry it was just a suggestion.. I'm not that knowledgeable with wireless.  I'm hardwired.
[03:41] <Ice__> oh ok
[03:41] <Ice__> thanks anyway
[03:41] <Ice__> its a thought
[03:41] <takamarou> TheCougar : Why would u say to not dualboot?
[03:41] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: Wubi is very simple, just give it a username and password, a drive you want to install (and how much you wish to reserve for Linux) and that's it
[03:41] <caminomaster> I just cannot see the button in audacity... don't know why
[03:41] <Ice__> Ill play around with that idea for a while bbl
[03:41] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: the entire setup is one window (seen here: http://wubi-installer.org/screenshots.php)
[03:41] <TheCougar> ah i get how wubi works. i would go with vmware over that
[03:41] <takamarou> CoasterMaster : OK, one more question.. ur saying dualboot over VM because of the ram it will use? or is there another reason?
[03:42] <CoasterMaster> I just find VMs to be really annoyingly slow.  They take forever to start on my machine
[03:42] <TheCougar> takamarou: because with dualboot you actually have to leave the windows experance to get the linux experance. and changing over for the first time that can drive you to a frustration to decide not to use linux
[03:42] <jmak642> sup gang
[03:42] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: most of the downside with dual booting is partitioning and setting up the boot menus, something Wubi does all behind the scenes
[03:42] <ari_stress> CoasterMaster: is networking working with wubi?
[03:43] <Aethelred> Ahh. . irssi
[03:43] <TheCougar> wubi also won't change that feeling. the other issue is the resizing and so forth which wubi does take care of. lastly if you do it in a vm you can do whatever you want with partitions and affect the system in no way
[03:43] <jmak642> anyone know anything about building a san on ubuntu?
[03:43] <TheCougar> even network the two systems which will be possibly a big thing in your life
[03:43] <clever> CoasterMaster: ive read the entire grub info doc and have built my own kernels from source
[03:43] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, after adjusting the volume levels you still can't record with Sound Recorder?
[03:43] <clever> CoasterMaster: dualboot i can allmost do with my eyes closed:P
[03:43] <CoasterMaster> ari_stress: yes, everything worked just as a normal ubuntu install would, the only thing that didn't was suspending/hibernating from Ubuntu
[03:43] <takamarou> TheCougar : OK, so i think im gonna do the VM thing before i mess with dualboots.  Is there a certain program you suggest? perhaps a link?"
[03:43] <CoasterMaster> clever: I'll get there, some day..... :)
[03:44] <clever> CoasterMaster: www.linuxfromsratch.org helps
[03:44] <ari_stress> CoasterMaster: that's good news, because using VirtualBox we need to do additional steps to make full networking works
[03:44] <clever> CoasterMaster: scratch*
[03:44] <julioso> hey all, I just installed Ubuntu and can't seem to change my screen resolution to what it should be...
[03:44] <buntunub> takamarou | virtualbox!
[03:44] <clever> CoasterMaster: to install that distro you build EVERY package from source
[03:44] <Atlantiz> wow that install of LAMP WORKED LIKE 1 SECOND
[03:44] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, still the same
[03:44] <Atlantiz> this ubuntu is wild
[03:45] <Aethelred> Atlantiz:  what deb did you install?
[03:45] <julioso> I have a 1680x1050 widescreen monitor, and the largest it will go under "Screen resolution" is 1024
[03:45] <Atlantiz> in debian it took me a week
[03:45] <ari_stress> julioso: what resolution do you want?
[03:45] <CoasterMaster> clever: yeah, i've seen linux from scratch, but I don't like to mess with all that....I found slackware to be a complete pain in the you-know-where
[03:45] <Dumptruck> hello everyone
[03:45] <Atlantiz> sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[03:45] <julioso> ari_stress: 1680x1024
[03:45] <Atlantiz> that's all i used
[03:45] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, what kind of input are you using Microphone , line-in?
[03:45] <clever> CoasterMaster: i have 2 lfs systems(one is a laptop with 32mb ram)
[03:45] <ari_stress> Atlantiz: ubuntu is certainly wild, as wild as a wild cheerleaders :D
[03:45] <Dumptruck> is there a virtual cd drive in Ubuntu?
[03:45] <Atlantiz> it's amaazing
[03:45] <Dumptruck> similar to daemon tools?
[03:45] <takamarou> OK, guys, im doing the virtualbox thing for now.  Thanks a lot for all your help, I'll come back for more help if this dosent work :D
[03:45] <julioso> Dumptruck: get cdemu
[03:46] <CoasterMaster> Dumptruck, you can mount .iso files directly
[03:46] <caminomaster> I have a mic... but this time i want to record from amarok
[03:46] <Dumptruck> ah perfect
[03:46] <Aethelred> And what LAMP stack does it install?  Which lang/db ?
[03:46] <ari_stress> julioso: that's unusual, shouldn't it 1280 x 1024?
[03:46] <clever> DumberDrummer: no need to simulate the drive
[03:46] <Dumptruck> I need for cedega
[03:46] <FFForever> ropero123
[03:46] <FFForever> fudge
[03:46] <clever> DumberDrummer: mount /path/to/file.iso /media/cdrom -o loop
[03:46] <julioso> ari_stress: I have a 20.1" widescreen monitor, it's a little unusual, but not unheard of
[03:46] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, I have a mic, but this time i need to record from kaffeina sound
[03:46] <jmak642> julioso: you can edit the resolutions available in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  back it up first
[03:46] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: if you need a tutorial, there is one here (note this uses qemu instead of VirtualBox): http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/ekeller00/EricKellerUbuntuPage.html
[03:47] <julioso> jmak642: thanks, I will try that
[03:47] <Atlantiz> not sure aethelred but tommorrow with more patience I'm going to check exactly what it installed
[03:47] <jmak642> julioso: make sure you add the resolution for all the color depth settings
[03:48] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, I see that in volume control you first have to enable the recording inputs. Open volume control in sound recorder -> Edit -> Preferences. Then the capturing inputs
[03:48] <Atlantiz> aethelred: Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 Server
[03:49] <LeoDioxide> I've got no sound, both my sound cards are detected and volume fixed, but I can't seem to get any sound from oss or alsa
[03:49] <LeoDioxide> any ideas?
[03:49] <spheard> anyone tell me what DHT is on ktorrent?
[03:49] <CoasterMaster> spheard: Distributed Hash Table
[03:50] <CoasterMaster> spheard: trackerless torrents use them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table
[03:50] <spheard> CoasterMaster: what does that do then?
[03:50] <CaptainFrisbee> LeoDioxide, did you try first disabling one of the two sound cards?
[03:50] <LeoDioxide> CaptainFrisbee: in the bios?
[03:50] <spheard> thx
[03:50] <CaptainFrisbee> LeoDioxide, Yes
[03:50] <steph_16th> LeoDioxide: "/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" as root or sudo
[03:51] <LeoDioxide> ok, lemme go try
[03:51] <steph_16th> or reset
[03:52] <Atlantiz> night guys this OS Rocks!
[03:52] <steph_16th> or stop one only
[03:52] <tux_fl> firestarter users?  help
[03:53] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee... still the same
[03:53] <File13> i made a fat32 partition that i mounted at /storage but it doesnt show on my ubuntu desktop how do i get it to show
[03:53] <ari_stress> tux_fl: what's the problem?
[03:53] <tux_fl> firestarter gui policy greyed out
[03:53] <jmak642> anyone ever try to build a san?
[03:53] <tux_fl> i know its something stupid
[03:53] <jmak642> i am hot to build an iscsi san for my data
[03:54] <caminomaster> I'll tell you, CaptainFrisbee : HEre in volume ctrl i found in file>change device 2 cards: alsa and oss
[03:54] <caminomaster> alsa appears with cs4236B (my soundcard) and oss
[03:54] <beavis> file13: to show on desktop has to be mounted in /media, /media/storage for example
[03:54] <steph_16th> File13: mkdir windows in /mnt
[03:54] <ari_stress> File13: you should mount it in /media/storate
[03:55] <File13> so go back into gpart and just change it to /media/storage>
[03:55] <File13> ?
[03:55] <steph_16th> File13: then type "ln -s /mnt/windows /home/you/Desktop"
[03:55] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, yes that's normal
[03:55] <LeoDioxide> CaptainFrisbee: that worked, though I can't figure out why >.<
[03:55] <File13> ok i just got like 3 different way to do it there
[03:55] <File13> lol
[03:56] <beavis> two ways
[03:56] <beavis> mount in /media/storage
[03:57] <beavis> do "sudo mkdir /media/storage"
[03:57] <Thurin1> If a monitor, in Windows can obtain a refresh rate of 85Hz why then does Ubuntu allow no higher of a rate than 60? - Even after performing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choosing my rates etc, I was only able to obtain a tiny 72hz at a pitiful resolution of 800x600. - I have already disabled DDC, same results. --- Is it possible that some monitors cannot reach the same refresh rates in Ubuntu as is possible under the Windows sy
[03:57] <File13> if i mount it in media/storage will the windows partition read it to
[03:57] <File13> the partition is already make...its just mounted incorrectly
[03:57] <Thurin1> File, You cannot read EXT3 in Windows..
[03:57] <beavis> if you are mounting automatically using fstab edit fstab to point /storage at /media/storage instead
[03:57] <LeoDioxide> Thurin1: depends on your driver
[03:57] <Thurin1> Well you can.. but you need a driver
[03:57] <CaptainFrisbee> Thurin1, are you using a nvidia card?
[03:57] <File13> im not trying to read ext3 in windows....
[03:57] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, i know, but the fact is: oss shows only 5 ctrls, but alsa in preferences lets me see about 10 or 12 channels
[03:57] <LeoDioxide> File13: use explore2fs
[03:58] <nickrud> Thurin1, most likely x is not getting the right ddc info; try explicitly defining the refresh rates in xorg.conf
[03:58] <pike__> Thurin1: also you set correct horz and vert rates?
[03:58] <File13> im trying to make a fat32 partition readable in both windows and ubuntu as a shareable partiion
[03:58] <Thurin1> Captain, No, I am using a Radeon card, a VE/7000 to be correct.
[03:58] <File13> >_<
[03:58] <Thurin1> Pike, Yes.
[03:58] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, it's the same on my PC
[03:58] <Thurin1> Nick, As I said in my post - I have disabled DDC - I also have looked up the proper values in regards to H/V and tripled checked them, alas 60hz :(
[03:58] <steph_16th> File13: mount it, then link it to your desktop if it doesn't automatically
[03:59] <File13> k ill mount it to /media/storage after i install these updates
[03:59] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, in dapper, I've seen around 4 channels under "capture"
[03:59] <nickrud> Thurin1, what is X saying it sees (in /var/log/Xorg.0.conf)
[03:59] <vbabiy-Laptop> Hello has any one been able to get the ipod video t work with amarok
[03:59] <caminomaster> now I see only 1, CaptainFrisbee
[04:00] <nickrud> lol
[04:00] <Thurin1> nickrud, It is telling me something about the BIOS... (EE)
[04:00] <takamarou> hey, ive got a question about virtualbox, if anyone knows much about it.  I'm  making my new virtual disk right now, and it wants to use my C:\ drive.  Is there a way to make it use my second hard drive?
[04:00] <nickrud> Thurin1, put it up on a pastebin, I'll take a look
[04:00] <galpa> #ubuntu-es
[04:00] <Thurin1> But at the moment I am not in Linux so I am passing this to you through my memory, I could not stand 60hz....
[04:00] <nickrud> Thurin1, understandable :)
[04:00] <Thurin1> ;)
[04:00] <k3td> yo
[04:00] <Thurin1> yo
[04:01] <ari_stress> takamarou: can't you just change it?
[04:01] <Thurin1> heh
[04:01] <steph_16th> yo
[04:01] <k3td> i keep hearing the ubuntu start noise how do i fix it
[04:01] <takamarou> ari_stress : im not seeing the option anywhere?
[04:01] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, you should see Volume, Line-in, Microphone, CD inputs using OSS
[04:01] <Thurin1> k3td, Start noise? ...
[04:01] <spheard> k3td:stop ubuntu?
[04:01] <Thurin1> k3td, The 'start up sound' ?
[04:01] <k3td> the drums
[04:01] <Thurin1> Or.. a PC beep
[04:01] <wastrel> k3td:  it keeps repeating nonstop?
[04:01] <k3td> yes
[04:01] <Thurin1> k3td, Strange..
[04:01] <n00blet> Will a webcam work on ubuntu, more specifically a logitech webcam.
[04:01] <wastrel> that's no good
[04:02] <ari_stress> takamarou: hmm.. i'm using virtualbox in ubuntu, so i dont have c:\, but, maybe you can just change the drive letter manually?
[04:02] <xjkx>  I cant make thunderbird read hotmail :< i even installed hotwayd+webmail-extension but it says "you must to pay to access webdav" or something WTF
[04:02] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, you can't add additional inputs using edit-preferences ?
[04:02] <wastrel> k3td:  try turning it off in system > preferences > sounds
[04:02] <k3td> it wont stfu and it says that my sound is muted
[04:02] <Thurin1> xjkx, You can access Hotmail through POP?- I thought they stopped that, or made it a pay service...
[04:02] <steph_16th> n00blet: search for the appropriate driver on goole + a webcam app
[04:02] <takamarou> ari_stress there is no where that i see anything about a hard drive..  i choose my size, and my type of drive, and then it takes me automatically to view stuff before i confirm it..  I never come to a place where I can change the drive
[04:03] <n00blet> Ah, so it isn't one of those easy things to do ;[ heh
[04:03] <xjkx> thunder|: me myself cant. but thunderbird extentions say i do, if I download webmail extension. But didnt work
[04:03] <xjkx> :<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[04:03] <codecaine> anybody know a software that I can use my webcam as a camrecorder?
[04:03] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, I've clicked on "new" at the recorder, and it closed telling me that "my sound capture settings were incorrect"
[04:03] <takamarou> ari_stress nevermind, i think i got it
[04:03] <Hillsburrito> is there something similar to cdemu with a gui goodness - I like fisher-price sort of things
[04:03] <caminomaster> then i opened system>preferences>sound
[04:03] <ari_stress> takamarou: that is certainly a negative feature :(
[04:03] <n00blet> I know camtasia caps vids but idk if it is usable with linux
[04:03] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, strange I get that too ...
[04:04] <Thurin1> xjkx, I doubt you are able to access Hotmail by any mail client, Outlook included - unless you pay.
[04:04] <ari_stress> takamarou: yes? how? :)
[04:04] <Ice_> I want to cry.
[04:04] <takamarou> ari_stress I had my virtualbox folder in my C:\ drive for some reason, so I just moved everything to the second one
[04:04] <Thurin1> So it's not a problem on your end - perhaps the extension was made when this was still possible, but as far as I know Hotmail changed policy and now you must pay for this 'service'
[04:04] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, open syst>preferences>sound
[04:04] <k3td> hmm still not working
[04:04] <steph_16th> n00blet: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[04:05] <CaptainFrisbee> caminomaster, ok
[04:05] <xjkx> thunder|: they are gheiz
[04:05] <Ice_> Is there anyone in this channel paying attention that knows ALOT about wifi and ubuntu and can help me for about a half hour
[04:05] <n00blet> steph_16th: thanks
[04:05] <Thurin1> xjkx, Why do you keep calling me 'Thunder' ?
[04:05] <Thurin1> :P
[04:05] <xjkx> Thurin1: http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html
[04:05] <steph_16th> n00blet: http://www.linux-drivers.org/usb_webcams.html
[04:06] <Thurin1> :D
[04:06] <caminomaster> CaptainFrisbee, the really problem with me is that I've never understood wtf is alsa, oss, esd and it's differences :/
[04:06] <ari_stress> takamarou: good luck with your endeavor then. enjoy ubuntu :D
[04:06] <k3td> how do i know what sound card i have
[04:06] <takamarou> poo, it wont let me DL ubuntu.. too many users... this OS is waay to popular :D
[04:06] <k3td> ?
[04:06] <bulmer> how do I replace this sequence of unprintable chars  \342\200\231 to its equivalent '   ?
[04:06] <bulmer> in sed or vim
[04:06] <niko_> Is it possible (easily) to be able to "suspend" my desktop rather than hibernate?
[04:06] <illu45> Hello, could someone help me with a quick question about getting a custom script to run on startup?
[04:06] <Ice_> Vorian:
[04:06] <steph_16th> k3td: terminal: "hal-device-manager &"
[04:06] <nickrud> k3td, lspci (if it's onboard or in a pci slot)
[04:06] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: are you familiar with torrents?
[04:07] <takamarou> CoasterMaster : i got it
[04:07] <steph_16th> illu45: yep
[04:07] <takamarou> but im out for the night, gonna let it DL over night, thanks for all the help
[04:07] <Ice_> Vorian:  you here?
[04:07] <nickrud> illu45, gnome or system startup?
[04:07] <CoasterMaster> takamarou: no problem and good luck ;)
[04:07] <illu45> nickrud, er, not using gnome, so system startup
[04:07] <disinterested_> what was gutsy released today or some thing?
[04:08] <nickrud> illu45, what is it? and does it need to be shutdown when the machine goes down?
[04:08] <CoasterMaster> disinterested_ : no, just the name for the followup to gustsy
[04:08] <CoasterMaster> !harty
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about harty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <CoasterMaster> !hardy
[04:08] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04, due April 2008.
[04:08] <anethema> hey guys does anyone here know how to get a joystick going? i cant find much on it..i installed the joystick package and its asking for a device..what device would my joystick be?
[04:08] <bulmer> illu45: use  update-rc.d
[04:08] <Q^aeria> Who here can help with editing xorg.conf?
[04:08] <disinterested_> CoasterMaster ty
[04:08] <illu45> nickrud, preferably, yes. Its a mount script. I've got the script written up, but I'm not sure how to get it to run on start
[04:08] <Ice_> Is there anyone in this channel paying attention that knows ALOT about wifi and ubuntu and can help me for about a half hour
[04:08] <illu45> bulmer, update-rc.d?
[04:09] <computerman> Is there a channel for newbies?
[04:09] <n00blet> Lol, right here
[04:09] <CoasterMaster> computerman: you're in it :)
[04:09] <bulmer> illu45: man  update-rc.d
[04:09] <computerman> Kewl
[04:09] <illu45> Currently, I have the script in /etc/init.d, and that seems to work fine, but there's a slight problem.
[04:09] <disinterested_> computerman; this is the one
[04:09] <nickrud> illu45, you need to write a script that has a start and stop option then; take a look at /etc/init.d/screen for a simple example
[04:09] <n00blet> Well, i'd assume none of us are complete nubs being that we installed linux...but I might be mistaken
[04:10] <Hillsburrito>  is there something similar to cdemu with a gui goodness - I like fisher-price sort of things
[04:10] <n00blet> I just got bored with windoze and wanted to learn something new
[04:10] <Bakefy> is there a way to make text bolder with wine programs?
[04:10] <computerman> Just set up my Unbuntu box the other day, so far works great!
[04:10] <CoasterMaster> n00blet: I've used this place for a quick bit of support during the install on the livecd :)
[04:10] <Q^aeria> Who here can help with editing xorg.conf?  I need to confirm something before I save what I got...
[04:11] <n00blet> CoasterMaster: I actually found the install to be confusing the first time I did it with redhat...lol
[04:11] <computerman> How do I access this box via Windoz Vista?
[04:11] <Ice_> Is there anyone in this channel paying attention that knows ALOT about wifi and ubuntu and can help me for about a half hour
[04:11] <File13> do i have to use the gnome partition editor on the live disk to change the mount point or can i do it in the ubuntu install
[04:11] <nickrud> Q^aeria, put it up on a pastebin, several people can help
[04:11] <CoasterMaster> !samba | computerman
[04:11] <klepto> wow this is really wierd no mp3 sound in rhythmbox/exaile/listen music player
[04:11] <illu45> nickrud, ah, ok, I'll take a look at it. My problem is, though, that the script uses a sudo command, which makes it prompt me for a password in the boot prompt. Is there any way to give it the password in the script itself?
[04:11] <MarcN> klepto: because of patent reasons.
[04:11] <n00blet> I know you can access windows through linux but didn't think it was the other way around
[04:11] <ubotu> computerman: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:11] <computerman> Supposedly its installed and set up. I can "See" the other computers on my Lan
[04:11] <nickrud> illu45, if it's running from init.d and is properly linked, you won't need to sudo
[04:11] <klepto> MarcN: i've installed the gstreamer codecs
[04:11] <MarcN> klepto: you can add mp3 support yourself however.
[04:12] <illu45> nickrud, ah, ok, so I can just remove the sudo?
[04:12] <nickrud> illu45, yes
[04:12] <beavis> File13: What point are you at? You've installed ubuntu then created a partition afterwards, is it being auto mounted on startup allready?
[04:12] <CoasterMaster> computerman: here is a tutorial
[04:12] <CoasterMaster> computerman: http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-install-samba-on-linux-with-swat
[04:12] <illu45> nickrud, ah, ok. I'll try that out. Thanks for the advice :)
[04:12] <MarcN> klepto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[04:13] <nickrud> illu45, when you have the script properly mounting/unmounting (use sudo to call the script during testing) do sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults to link it properly for startup
[04:13] <klepto> MarcN: I've already added the mp3 codecs
[04:13] <File13> ok i installed the dual boot windows and ubuntu, i created a fat32 formatted partition mounted at /storage when i originally did the install but it doesnt show on ubuntu, so i want it to show in both windows and ubuntu
[04:13] <klepto> and tested gstreamer and it plays a test tune
[04:13] <Q^aeria> I am going through xorg.conf using jed.  I am doing this with instructions from an ubuntuforums.org post, and I'm not too clear if I have to add something to xorg.conf with the hash mark or not.
[04:13] <Ice_> Is there anyone in this channel paying attention that knows ALOT about wifi and ubuntu and can help me for about a half hour
[04:13] <illu45> nickrud, ah, ok. Will do.
[04:13] <beavis> if you open a home folder, then move up levels until you are / can you see the storage directory
[04:14] <MarcN> Ice_: just ask here, someone may answer
[04:14] <k3td> how do you configure a sound card
[04:14] <enix> i cannot get into my login screen prefs. i get an error that says GDM isnt running. i tried sudo dkpg-reconfigure gdm and get an error  that says reload failed
[04:14] <k3td> how do you configure a sound card pretty please
[04:14] <klepto> Ice_: what is your problem?
[04:14] <Q^aeria> I generated a comment in terminal from gtf 1024 768 85
[04:14] <k3td> enix what grapics card?
[04:14] <Ice_> my problem is rather lengthy to explain
[04:14] <File13> well what if i want it on my desktop
[04:14] <the_padawan> hi all, can I somehow check the battery level on my laptop on the command line?
[04:15] <MarcN> Ice_: how about blogging it somewhere?
[04:15] <Ice_> I will pastebin it.
[04:15] <k3td> enix what grapics card?
[04:15] <beavis> File13: just PM'd you
[04:15] <MarcN> the_padawan: use acpi
[04:15] <Q^aeria> the output has a hash mark and the post says I am supposed to paste the output to xorg.conf  "Monitor" section
[04:15] <File13> the nick isnt registered so i wont get it
[04:15] <enix> k3td: nvidia i think, but this is a new prob, has worked b4.
[04:15] <beavis> ok
[04:15] <k3td> enix join hbc
[04:15] <the_padawan> MarcN: thanks!
[04:15] <File13> aim?
[04:15] <enix> k3td: i didnt F w/ anything
[04:15] <Je1> hey is there anyone here that can help me with alsamixer? pm me
[04:16] <enix> k3td: ok
[04:16] <computerman> Any of you use Dreamweaver CS3?
[04:16] <beavis> right, in a terminal type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:16] <CoasterMaster> !anyone | Jel
[04:16] <ubotu> Jel: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:16] <the_padawan> wow that is a polite bot
[04:16] <CoasterMaster> !feed
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <nickrud> enix, try sudo aptitude reinstall gdm
[04:17] <File13> alright
[04:17] <File13> i did the fstab
[04:17] <Je1> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[04:17] <Je1> thats my problem
[04:17] <beavis> File13: can you see a line with a reference to /storage?
[04:17] <File13> yes
[04:18] <File13>  /dev/sda4
[04:18] <beavis> File13: change /storage to /media/storage
[04:18] <File13> the docs read only
[04:18] <joules> hey on open office my icons are gone... :( anyway to get htem back?
[04:19] <beavis> File13: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" from a terminal
[04:19] <ckin2001> @file13 - try gksudo instead of sudo
[04:19] <File13> k i changed it to /media/storage
[04:19] <computerman> I'm trying to set up DW CS3 to FTP files to a site on my server (this Unbuntu box).
[04:19] <beavis> File13: save, quit, in same terminal "sudo mkdir /media/storage"
[04:20] <pinpoint> anyone know a way i can download src files from a cvs source?
[04:20] <eric_> Was looking for some printer setup help.  Is this the right place?
[04:20] <CoasterMaster> !printing | eric_
[04:20] <File13> ok
[04:20] <ubotu> eric_: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:20] <beavis> File13: then in terminal "sudo mount -a"
[04:20] <nickrud> eric_, lease don't say its a lexmark ;)
[04:20] <CoasterMaster> haha, and that too!
[04:20] <File13> media/storage does not exist
[04:21] <beavis>  File13: save, quit, in same terminal "sudo mkdir /media/storage"
[04:21] <eric_> Know about cups.  When I setup my network printer (http:// etc...) and print to the printer, it just says printing but nothing happens.  Any clue?
[04:21] <computerman> That include shared printer on Lan?
[04:21] <joules> ... hey guysssss anyone knows how to get icons back on open office... there is just text now
[04:21] <eric_> nickrud - samsung
[04:21] <ckin2001> @eric - right print queue?
[04:21] <nickrud> eric_, I've never had to set up a network printer, so ...
[04:21] <Ice_> Hello again all, my problem is at http://pastebin.com/m43b08461 and I will appreciate your help. This does not seem like something that will be an easy fix.  I could really use someone experienced with wifi and linux for this.
[04:22] <eric_> ckin2001 - dont understand your question.
[04:22] <File13> ok i did the mount and nothing happened
[04:22] <joules> :'(
[04:22] <ckin2001> eric - external print server? built in?
[04:22] <ckin2001> shared printer?
[04:23] <Ice_> actually
[04:23] <Ice_> let me fix my grammar
[04:23] <beavis> File13: does other media show on your desktop such as your windows partition
[04:23] <Okayasu> anyone have a moment to help me verify if I have something working with ubuntu and iptables?
[04:23] <Ice_> thats a pain in the ass to read
[04:23] <eric_> Printer is attached via usb to my router
[04:23] <File13> yes
[04:23] <File13> sda1
[04:23] <ckin2001> eek
[04:23] <ckin2001> print server / router?
[04:23] <nickrud> lol\
[04:23] <adrian_> HELP: anyone have an idea of how to unpack a .zix file?
[04:23] <ckin2001> what model?
[04:24] <stefano> Hello, i was wondering if anyone could tell me if the linux-386 kernel that is in the feisty fawn repositories optimized for a 686 processor?
[04:24] <cosmodad> Ice_: first of all, you don't seem to have iwconfig available.
[04:24] <stefano> I mean, Synaptic tells that linux-686 is obsolete.
[04:24] <nickrud> stefano, you'll prefer the -generic or -lowlatency
[04:24] <CoasterMaster> stefano: i don't believe so
[04:24] <cosmodad> Ice_: did you install wireless-tools?
[04:24] <etale> anyone using macaulay2 in feisty?
[04:24] <Ice_> yes
[04:24] <Ice_> hold on I will fix my grammar and add iwconfig
[04:24] <beavis> File13: you can read files correctly from the drive by looking in /media/storage now i take it
[04:24] <Ice_> and post again
[04:24] <stefano> Why generic?
[04:24] <adrian_> HELP: anyone have an idea of how to unpack a .zix file?
[04:24] <nickrud> stefano, thru some kind of magic, those will identify your processor and adapt to it
[04:24] <CoasterMaster> !repeat | adrian_
[04:24] <ubotu> adrian_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:25] <stefano> Oh
[04:25] <File13> i have no idea what i just did
[04:25] <adrian_> ok
[04:25] <File13> ugh
[04:25] <CoasterMaster> stefano: nickrud: it's really all voodoo
[04:25] <ckin2001> :D file13
[04:25] <eric_> Router is a us robotics
[04:25] <File13> i cant follow whats going on so im sure i just screwed something up
[04:25] <File13> but hey
[04:25] <File13> what else is new
[04:25] <stefano> hehe, so there is no performance drop? I thought that if i had it compiled to my specific architecture i could get more juice out of the processor.
[04:26] <nickrud> CoasterMaster, I stay away from rituals, so I don't think I'll ever try to understand :)
[04:26] <CoasterMaster> adrian_: this might help http://www.winzix.com/index.php?go=expert
[04:26] <cosmodad> adrenaline: this will give you a starter: http://filext.com/file-extension/zix
[04:26] <Aethelred> adrian: http://andrewu.co.uk/webtech/archive/?file_extension_zix_2
[04:26] <beavis> File13: wots happened?
[04:26] <Okayasu> or is anyone familiar with the whole Comcast/bittorrent deal, and the "possible fix" of dropping RST packets?
[04:26] <File13> and all of a sudden my wlan1 on reboot decides its no longer there
[04:26] <cosmodad> adrian_: : this will give you a starter: http://filext.com/file-extension/zix
[04:26] <CoasterMaster> Okayasu: i am on comcast and yes it sucks, but there is no fix yet
[04:26] <File13> i dont know dude
[04:26] <Okayasu> ahh ok
[04:26] <File13> nothing, and thats whats bothering me
[04:26] <Okayasu> so the whole dropping RST packets doesn't actually work?
[04:26] <julian__> is it possible to access a wireless card in virtual guest
[04:26] <cosmodad> adrian_: apparently, it's some evilish ad-aware packer. Get your warez 'n porn from a decent site ;)
[04:27] <adrian_> thanks will try to make it work
[04:27] <oranye> yuli
[04:27] <CoasterMaster> Okayasu: just have to tough it out, and hopefully there will be fixes in the next version of torrent clients
[04:27] <ckin2001> eric - us robotics site says it is an IPP printer
[04:27] <eric_> ckin2001 - That sounds right.
[04:27] <CoasterMaster> Okayasu: technically it works, but it also sends the RST packets to your partner, so they'd need to know to drop them too
[04:27] <Okayasu> mind if I pm you, CoasterMaster?
[04:28] <CoasterMaster> sure, go ahead
[04:28] <File13> i changed the mount point and now i dunno what the hell is up
[04:28] <Javid> is there a way to rig sudo/gksudo to not need a pass? like including it in the command somehow?
[04:28] <etale> anyone using macaulay2 in feisty? If not, can someone at least tell me how to install a .deb package... there's a repository on the website for it, but im getting a public key error, and they don't mention keys anywhere on the site.
[04:28] <stefano> Is there any commercial game, other than id soft's, that runs on linux natively? I am trying to find a few games, but they are either vintage or really stupid. If anyone could point me towards a real 3d game, half life 2 or anything that looks good, and is native to linux.
[04:28] <CoasterMaster> !games | stefano
[04:28] <ubotu> stefano: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:28] <adrian_> cosmodad I it for http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3784432/The.Bourne.Ultimatum.R5.XviD-LionsGate and I would rather admit porn
[04:28] <k3td> !help gestreamer
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help gestreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <File13> ubuntu can be so gay
[04:28] <ckin2001> eric - does the router setup page have anything helpful?
[04:29] <nickrud> etale, if they don't have a key, you can still install the deb by saying yes when it asks. Up to you.
[04:29] <k3td> !k3td | gstreamer
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k3td - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <nomin> stefano: try nexuiz.  It installs and runs right away and it's free.
[04:29] <cosmodad> adrian_: get it somewhere else. Like going to the movies. Just a suggestion. :)
[04:29] <eric_> ckin2001 - It says the web address.  Also, I can print from windows.
[04:29] <k3td> can some one help me set gstreamer up?
[04:29] <etale> nickrud but when i go to install, it says "0 B have to be downloaded"
[04:29] <ckin2001> eric - whats the web address?
[04:30] <etale> and when I apply I get errors
[04:30] <adrian_> ok
[04:30] <warbler> stefano: try here - http://cubeengine.com/
[04:30] <etale> E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the Macaulay2 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[04:30] <etale> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:30] <adrian_> maybe download an other file
[04:30] <nickrud> etale, what's the url?
[04:30] <eric_> ckin2001 - http://<IP_ADDRESS>:1631/printers/My_Printer
[04:30] <stefano> Any racing games?
[04:30] <etale> for the page itself, http://www.math.uiuc.edu/Macaulay2/Downloads/Ubuntu/
[04:30] <etale> and the repositories are right there
[04:31] <Thmaceisback> hey i have a big problem
[04:31] <Ice> quick!  could someone go find my pastebin I posted earlier
[04:31] <Ice> and give it to me
[04:31] <Ice> my linux froze so I lost it
[04:31] <eric_> ice - http://pastebin.com/m43b08461
[04:31] <Ice> ty :D
[04:32] <Thmaceisback> i acciendntally chmodded my entire hd to 744
[04:32] <Thmaceisback> as root
[04:32] <ckin2001> try just http://<IP_ADDRESS>:1631
[04:32] <eric_> ckin2001 - Let me try.
[04:32] <wastrel> Thmaceisback:  don't use chmod -R
[04:32] <`davo> uh..exactly how do I go about updating GTK?
[04:32] <cosmodad> Thmaceisback: you're screwed...
[04:32] <k3td> can some one help me set gstreamer up?
[04:32] <wastrel> lesson learned!  backup data & reinstall
[04:33] <Mgk> \o/
[04:33] <nickrud> etale, hm. It mentions that you might have an architecture problem; looking at something
[04:34] <cosmodad> hmm
[04:34] <cosmodad> !repeat
[04:34] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:34] <cosmodad> isn't this supposed to mean "don't repeat"?
[04:34] <k3td> how do i install xine
[04:34] <Tama00> i got an issue, whenever my computer is first turned on and i log in it uses 100% of my cpu for almost 30 seconds
[04:34] <eric_> ckin2001 - Same thing as before.  queue says printing but nothing happens
[04:34] <stefano> Guys, thanks for the game links. Can't wait any longer for Gutsy.
[04:34] <cosmodad> Tama00: sounds fine to me.
[04:34] <ckin2001> eric - from their page - http://www.usr.com/support/5461/5461-ug/linux_printer.html
[04:34] <Tama00> cosmodad, why is that fine
[04:34] <ckin2001> i cant tell if its helpful or not
[04:34] <cosmodad> Tama00: surely there's a bunch of apps that need to be loaded at startup.
[04:35] <wastrel> cosmodad:  it means don't be obnoxious.  you can repeat after a while but don't spam your question 5 times
[04:35] <cosmodad> Tama00: your system will try to do so as fast as possible.
[04:35] <etale> nickrud ya, thanks... this is giving me a headache all day :(
[04:35] <Tama00> cosmodad, it logs in and loads up completely
[04:35] <cosmodad> wastrel: that's why I say that factoid isn't correct.
[04:35] <Javid> is there a way to rig sudo/gksudo to not need a pass? like including it in the command somehow?
[04:35] <Tama00> cosmodad, but the "system" not the applications just sits on 100% cpu
[04:35] <cosmodad> Javid: you don't want that.
[04:36] <Falstius> Javid: you can do it easily for individual commands.
[04:36] <Javid> ok
[04:36] <eric_> ckin2001 - Thanks for the page.  Will try it now.
[04:36] <ckin2001> good luck
[04:36] <cosmodad> Tama00: erm, you know that apps run by the help of the CPU?
[04:36] <Javid> yeah, for individual stuff, not for everything
[04:36] <warbler> stefano; try here - http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=26
[04:36] <Javid> and yes I do want that :p
[04:36] <genii> Javid: You can edit the file /etc/sudoers for that. But not recommended
[04:36] <wastrel> hrm, gnome panel crashed?
[04:36] <cosmodad> Tama00: the CPU goes 100% and loads all your apps. Once it's done doing that, it goes back to normal level.
[04:36] <Falstius> Javid: you just need to use visudo to edit the config file and add a line.  What commands do you want to make passwordless?
[04:36] <Javid> Wireshark
[04:36] <rockets> Anybody just come back from NYLUG?
[04:37] <MoLE_> #lugradio
[04:37] <Javid> since it has to run as root, period, I hate having to do the password every time
[04:37] <Falstius> Javid: a packet sniffing tool?
[04:37] <Javid> look I didn't design the thing, it sits there like a rock if it isn't root
[04:37] <Flannel> Javid: use setuid
[04:38] <Falstius> Flannel: it is safer to add it to sudoers.
[04:38] <cosmodad> Flannel: are you nuts?
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:38] <ckin2001> rofl
[04:38] <Javid> where's the sudoers config file then?
[04:38] <ckin2001> visudo /etc/sudoers
[04:38] <k3td> can some one help me with gstreamer
[04:38] <cosmodad> Javid: you access it through "sudo visudo"
[04:38] <Flannel> Javid: `sudo visudo` is all you need to know
[04:38] <Falstius> Javid: use sudo visudo          <no arguements unlike what ckin said>
[04:38] <ckin2001> oops
[04:38] <ckin2001> sry
[04:39] <Javid> ok, thanks
[04:39] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[04:39] <beavis> you still there File13, had to disappear
[04:39] <k3td> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[04:39] <wastrel> k3td:  are you in the audio group?
[04:39] <Johnny_> what program do you guys recommend for burning .avi movies?
[04:39] <k3td> wastrel come channel hbc
[04:39] <Flannel> Falstius: what do you set in sudoers to make certain things not require the password?
[04:39] <wastrel> no
[04:39] <cosmodad> Johnny_: burning in general, use k3b.
[04:39] <k3td> Aww cmon i need help
[04:40] <Falstius> Flannel: I'm looking up the exact syntax again ;)  One second.
[04:40] <wastrel> k3td:  is your user in the audio group?  i had this problem earlier because my user wasn't in the proper gropus
[04:40] <Flannel> Oh. Falstius, found it, nevermind.
[04:40] <Johnny_> do i d.load k3b or is it installed in feisty?
[04:40] <k3td> idk
[04:40] <k3td> idk how to tell
[04:40] <wastrel> groups username
[04:40] <CoasterMaster> !info k3b
[04:40] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 4912 kB, installed size 9404 kB
[04:40] <wastrel> or just groups  if you're logged in as the user
[04:40] <cosmodad> Johnny_: just install k3b
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> hm, iv'e never had a user not added to the audio group.
[04:40] <toyimp> What a quick way of bringing up the terminal?
[04:40] <z0rz> I want to login to X Windows from my school ubuntu machine, and work on my home computer.. but I don't want to use a simple vnc client... Where do I start? (I'd like to do it over ssh if possible0
[04:40] <CoasterMaster> Johnny_: sudo apt-get install k3b
[04:41] <Johnny_> oh but my is gnome interface is that alright?
[04:41] <CoasterMaster> it should still work
[04:41] <wastrel> z0rz:  ssh -X  and then just start the gui program you want
[04:41] <illu45> Just wanted to say thanks again to nickrud, the script is working perfectly now :)
[04:41] <Johnny_> alright ty
[04:41] <nickrud> etale, if you download the .9.95, you can dpkg -i it, it installs and runs on my machine (don't know how to use it)
[04:41] <cosmodad> toyimp: I assigned "<windows key>+s" to terminal
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> Johnny_: it will stil work, but it wil install a bunch of kde dependences.. if you want to stick with Gnome apps, install Gnomebaker.. sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[04:41] <nickrud> illu45, yw
[04:41] <k3td> wastrel What?
[04:41] <CoasterMaster> Johnny_: if you want to add k3b support, use sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[04:41] <CoasterMaster> Johnny_: *MP3 support
[04:42] <wastrel> k3td:  use the groups command to check what groups your user is in.  type   groups   on the command line
[04:42] <etale> nickrud... ttttooooo good! ok I'll try that
[04:42] <Falstius> Javid: add the line "%admin ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/wireshark" to the end.  you can replace ALL with your hostname for some additional security.
[04:42] <etale> so it's just dpkg -i ...tar.gz ? does it matter where?
[04:42] <Javid> that is exactly what I seek, thanks
[04:42] <nickrud> etale, dpkg -i <something>.deb, never a tar.gz :)
[04:43] <P_Kable> Hi, if I purge the recent document through the "places" menu. Is there a way to check these document again using some logfile ? If yes what logfile please
[04:43] <cosmodad> Javid: replace %admin by your username for even more security.
[04:43] <z0rz> wastrel: Wow! That's pretty cool
[04:43] <nickrud> etale, with sudo of course
[04:43] <etale> nickrud oops, ya my mistake heh. should I do that in / or does it not matter?
[04:43] <etale> like where to save the deb to?
[04:43] <Falstius> cosmodad: %admin is reasonable, if someone else is already in admin they can just run it with sudo and their password.
[04:43] <arigold> trying to upgrade from 6.10.1 to 7.04. My Distribution Upgrade to 7.04 seems to be stuck on Fetching 59 - get an Error During Update: "Failed to fetch...timed out" errors... anyone have some reliable mirrors I can use?
[04:43] <nickrud> etale, anywhere you want to keep that deb (I keep them in ~/archive/software/debs
[04:44] <Javid> woo, it worked
[04:44] <Javid> thanks
[04:44] <cosmodad> Falstius: it's added security in a paranoic fashion :)
[04:44] <z0rz> wastrel: What if I wanted to have like a preloaded session (with let's say firefox and pidgin and a few other things open)
[04:44] <KevinOman> when I telnet my server and do ehlo localhost it shows in one of the lines "250-AUTH NTLM DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 PLAIN LOGIN" I thought it was only supposed to say plain login can anyone figure this out?
[04:44] <toyimp> thanks cosmodad
[04:44] <wastrel> z0rz:  dunno :]   what's that new thing everyone likes anymore, freenx?
[04:45] <oranye> surabaya
[04:45] <arigold> trying givre.cabspace.com and flomertens.keo.in - bot don't workd...
[04:45] <Falstius> cosmodad: it is pointless and adds nothing.  Just because you think it adds security and you're paranoid doesn't mean it does :)
[04:45] <nickrud> KevinOman, just ways to secure the connection, those are encrypted passwords of one flavor or another. You can use any
[04:45] <cosmodad> KevinOman: side-note, you really wanna telnet into a machine instead of SSH?
[04:46] <eric_> ckin2001 - If your still there, still stuck
[04:46] <wastrel> cosmodad:  ssh doesn't work for smtp
[04:46] <cosmodad> Falstius: you are right.
[04:46] <cosmodad> wastrel: ah ok
[04:46] <Ice_> Ok I am back and here is my pastebin with my question http://pastebin.com/m32014a85
[04:46] <etale> nickrud ! it works !!! thanks so much =)
[04:46] <arooni__> folks i need to run this efax program... its an exe..... how can i do this (i have ubuntu)
[04:46] <wastrel> KevinOman:  i guess you have smtp auth stuff
[04:46] <nickrud> etale, yw
[04:47] <cosmodad> wastrel: Ice_ it's still "command not found" after you sudo iwconfig...
[04:47] <KevinOman> nickrud, thanks.. im following a tutorial and it doesn't show all that, just PLAIN LOGIN, not really sure if its going to effect anything
[04:47] <cosmodad> arooni__: exe as in windows executable?
[04:47] <Ice_> thats what it said before cosmos, sudo iwconfig is worthless now because I had to uninstall my drivers to boot up the computer and take out the dongle too
[04:48] <arooni__> cosmodad, sure
[04:48] <nickrud> KevinOman, no, those are a listing of accepted ways to log in, you can use any one of them
[04:48] <wastrel> yeah
[04:48] <wastrel> extra functionality provided
[04:48] <KevinOman> nickrud: oh I see.. thanks
[04:48] <cosmodad> arooni__: you can run win32 executables only in wine or a virtual machine like VMware.
[04:48] <Ice_> I know people have gotten this to work with dapper - Im using feisty - should I just install dapper?
[04:48] <arooni__> cosmodad, how do i get wine
[04:48] <cosmodad> arooni__: consider a native linux alternative
[04:49] <KevinOman> thanks to you too wastrel
[04:49] <cosmodad> arooni__: install the "wine" package
[04:49] <dinkle> can anyone help me figure out why my sessions start up programs wont save?
[04:49] <Ice_> cosmodad, would you suggest installing dapper?
[04:49] <cosmodad> Ice_: so you don't have a driver right now?
[04:49] <cosmodad> Ice_: no
[04:49] <Ice_> not in there
[04:49] <dinkle> or how to manually add start up programs?
[04:49] <nickrud> arooni__, efax is available in ubuntu ...
[04:49] <cosmodad> Ice_: especially not if you have something bleeding-edge-like
[04:50] <Johnny_> also is there a torrent app that doesn't suck? i've tried all of them made for linux but no good, im currently wining my utorrent since i really like it
[04:50] <Flannel> !startup | dinkle
[04:50] <ubotu> dinkle: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[04:50] <cosmodad> Ice_: why did you remove it? you need to have a driver to get this working
[04:50] <z0rz> Anyone know how to set up a remote x session?
[04:50] <Ice_> I still have it, it just isnt installed
[04:50] <Ice_> my computer freezes while its in and the dongle is in
[04:50] <cosmodad> Johnny_: I use rtorrent. It's a console tool, however.
[04:50] <Aethelred> What's the downside to Automatix  ?
[04:50] <cosmodad> Ice_: sounds like a driver problem.
[04:50] <Flannel> Aethelred: it breaks your system
[04:50] <cosmodad> Aethelred: it can screw your system
[04:51] <Ice_> Johnny, I find Ktorrent to be alot like Utorrent and quite nice
[04:51] <Johnny_> lol, im not good with console involved tools, maybe something with a powerful gui?
[04:51] <cosmodad> z0rz: you can use some VNC server/client, or use X directly.
[04:51] <nickrud> arooni__, and efax-gtk is a front end you can use for it. (wish it used evolution-data-server as a backend)
[04:51] <Ice_> go get ktorrent you will like it
[04:51] <Aethelred> ok then. Any details on how, or why, or how to avoid lossage?
[04:51] <Johnny_> yeah, but i have gnome sadly
[04:51] <z0rz> cosmodad: I'd like to use X directly .. how can I do that?
[04:51] <Ice_> cosmodad, my driver works with dapper, why should I not go get dapper
[04:51] <cosmodad> Ice_: oh I see.
[04:51] <dinkle> flannel, thanks. i guess i need to update sessions somehow because my screen is not the same as the one it shows
[04:52] <cosmodad> Ice_: it's strange that the driver freezes your system in Feisty but doesn't do so in Dapper, but ok
[04:52] <cosmodad> Ice_: what driver is it?
[04:52] <Ice_> well Im lying kinda
[04:52] <cosmodad> Ice_: name
[04:52] <Ice_> athfmwdl and neta5agu
[04:52] <cosmodad> z0rz: I'd need to look that up, been a while since I did it
[04:52] <Ice_> but Im also using linux mint which to my knowledge is just feisty with pre-installed apps and prettyness
[04:52] <Ice_> no one can help me at linux mint though
[04:52] <Dumptruck> ahh - my sound is all gone... could installing cedega killed my sound?  everything was working perfect
[04:53] <z0rz> right .. well could you give me a good search term to use.. I can't seem to get the right set
[04:53] <cosmodad> Ice_: gosh, never heard those names.
[04:53] <cosmodad> z0rz: it's called XDMCP
[04:53] <Ice_> www.linuxmint.com
[04:53] <Ice_> it's quite nice except for this one driver
[04:53] <Flannel> !automatix | Aethelred
[04:53] <cosmodad> z0rz: mind though it's pretty old, inefficient and security-lacking
[04:53] <ubotu> Aethelred: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:54] <Ice_> comes with an ndiswrapper gui that doesnt work for me too
[04:54] <Flannel> Aethelred: the best wya to avoid breakage: don't use it.
[04:54] <Dumptruck> how do I remove software that I intalled with a debian packet manager?
[04:54] <Flannel> z0rz: "'X forwarding' ssh" would probably do it
[04:55] <Aethelred> thanks
[04:55] <z0rz> cosmodad: Yeah.. I planned on doing it over SSH .. I did something like ssh -x mybox.z0rz.com and it was very fast and was practically exactly what I wanted .. except like a session of windows to come up..
[04:55] <Flannel> Dumptruck: use package management (whichever package manager you prefer) to remove it
[04:55] <cosmodad> z0rz: or yeah Flannel is right. If you don't need a full-featured remote desktop, use ssh forwarding (-X) instead.
[04:55] <cosmodad> z0rz: so what solution do you require?
[04:55] <jj_> What is the best way to troubleshoot an X not being able to start out-of-the-box?
[04:55] <z0rz> cosmodad: Well I know how to do ssh forwarding for single x windows .. but a full-featured remote desktop would be pretty need..
[04:56] <cosmodad> jj_: X logs in /var/log/.
[04:56] <nickrud> jj_, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:56] <z0rz> You said it's inefficient though.. I was hoping it would be as fast as ssh -X
[04:56] <Dumptruck> add/remove does not see it
[04:56] <Falstius> z0rz: it is ... ssh -X is very inefficient.
[04:56] <Flannel> Dumptruck: Use a real package manager (add/remove is dumbed down) like Synaptic
[04:56] <jj_> cosmodad: what am I looking for in particular...?
[04:56] <nickrud> Dumptruck, use apt-get, or synaptic
[04:56] <jj_> nickrud: what am I looking for in particular...?
[04:56] <z0rz> Falstius: !! What do you mean?
[04:56] <cosmodad> z0rz: well it uses a lot of resources. If you have the bandwidth, you might be fine.
[04:57] <nickrud> jj_, towards the end, there'll be something about why it couldn't start (hopefully)
[04:57] <z0rz> cosmodad: Ah!  Maybe that's why.. I haven't used it over the public internet... just my local network
[04:57] <cosmodad> jj_: /var/log/Xorg.*
[04:57] <z0rz> cosmodad: So vnc is probably more efficient?
[04:57] <cosmodad> z0rz: yeah that makes a huge difference
[04:57] <Flannel> z0rz: if you're doing it over your LAN, use XDMCP
[04:57] <cosmodad> z0rz: I'd say so
[04:57] <Falstius> z0rz: it really depends on the program.  It is possible to write a program that works well with ssh -X, but most aren't.
[04:57] <z0rz> cosmodad: Well poo
[04:57] <Flannel> z0rz: is linux installed on both machines?
[04:57] <Ice_> cosmodad, do you know where I can find a dapper download?
[04:57] <z0rz> Flannel: yes
[04:57] <z0rz> well.. sometimes ;) (Dual booting)
[04:57] <cosmodad> Ice_: where did you get the driver from? was it in the kernel or in some kind of package?
[04:58] <Ice_> I got it from dlink's website
[04:58] <z0rz> Depends on the day at school.. but I'm going to push for linux as the primary desktop[
[04:58] <Ice_> That's the one that the dapper people used
[04:58] <Flannel> z0rz: Right, on the machine yuo want to login to, go to login window setup, and enable the XDMCP stuff.  Then on your other one, at GDM (the login screen), Go down to the bottom left corner, and use XDMCP to connect (up at the top, Id on't know the exact text, maybe 'remote login' if not xdmcp)
[04:58] <Dumptruck> uggh... still no sound - any suggestions for troubleshooting?
[04:58] <Ice_> cosmodad, its the ones specifically made for this dongle
[04:59] <z0rz> Flannel: Right.. but isn't XDMCP pretty insecure over a public network?
[04:59] <jj_> z0rz: X windows is a very good remote desktop like deal -- assuming you have well written X apps...This is not garunteed though. VNC can  be vary good and does not depend on the program being programmed "correctly" but will tend to use more bandwidth
[04:59] <cosmodad> z0rz, Flannel: I think you can enable XDMCP via the GUI, can't you?
[04:59] <Flannel> cosmodad: You can.  Login Screen Setup
[04:59] <Ice_> cosmodad, I got it from dlink's website
[04:59] <mattgyver83> Hey room!  When running distros of ubuntu on older machines (p2) is there anything that one can do to speed it up at all, excluding upgrading the physical hardware?
[04:59] <cosmodad> Flannel: I mean on the server
[04:59] <Flannel> z0rz: It is.  It also usually wont work (UDP stuff doesn't traverse most routers)
[05:00] <Dumptruck> I don't even get the bongo sound when I am in the login screen
[05:00] <Flannel> cosmodad: yes, that's "Login screen setup"
[05:00] <cosmodad> Ice_: ok, and you're saying that when you reuse it on Feisty, it's freezing?
[05:00] <cosmodad> Flannel: nice.
[05:00] <z0rz> Flannel .. so is there a way to do XDMCP over SSH?
[05:00] <Falstius> can't you tunnel xdmcp through ssh?
[05:00] <cosmodad> you can
[05:00] <Ice_> cosmodad, I never used dapper, I found a forums post where 3 people got it to work on dapper, I use linux mint which is a division of feisty
[05:00] <Flannel> z0rz: Not that I'm aware of.  X forwarding is probably your best bet
[05:01] <z0rz> I wish there was a screen for X forwarding :D
[05:01] <jj_> z0rz: I've also heard that VNC via SSH can get better compression and performace...I haven't personally tried though
[05:01] <z0rz> jj_: I've always got weird color issues when tunneling VNC over SSH
[05:01] <Falstius> jj_: I have't compared performance, but it does get a security layer which is worth it.
[05:01] <nickrud> mattgyver83, use a really lightweight window manager, like fluxbox or openbox or blackbox
[05:01] <Dumptruck> I don't know where to begin other than the obvious when troubleshooting sound on Ubuntu
[05:02] <mattgyver83> Okay, thanks nick
[05:02] <nickrud> mattgyver83, and be ruthless about trimming apps that startup on bootup
[05:02] <Falstius> z0rz: it is probably downgrading the number of colors to make it more effecient.  You can change that.
[05:02] <cosmodad> z0rz: that's what VNC is!
[05:02] <z0rz> cosmodad: Haha.. nah it only does that when I use ssh ;)
[05:02] <z0rz> changes gray to purple :D
[05:02] <cosmodad> z0rz: sorry I meant "screen for X"
[05:03] <Dumptruck> Speakers on and connected - yes
[05:03] <z0rz> z0rz: Oh.. MEH!
[05:03] <Dumptruck> VOlumes up yes
[05:03] <z0rz> haha I just talked ot myself...
[05:03] <z0rz> cosmodad: Oh.. MEH!
[05:03] <cosmodad> jj_: hard to tell if you can't tell for sure that this linux mint is really comparable to feisty
[05:03] <Dumptruck> default sound card correct yes
[05:03] <wastrel> bye now
[05:03] <Ice_> cosmodad, I never used dapper, I found a forums post where 3 people got it to work on dapper, I use linux mint which is a division of feisty
[05:03] <Dumptruck> is there someplace else I am missing?
[05:03] <mattgyver83> nickrud, i am actually using xubuntu.  If i do that, will the GTK+ libraries which are installed still allow me to use Gnome/KDE applications through those window managers, or do they only work on either Gnome or KDE, any idea?
[05:03] <cosmodad> jj_: what you could do is watch the syslog while loading the driver and see if anything gets through
[05:04] <c01100011> recommendations for video chat program to talk with a windows user ? i am trying to use skype inside vmware but lose too much image quality
[05:04] <sdouble> I am using the open source drivers for my ATI card, but sometimes it randomly loses 3d functionality and I have to reinstall to get it working again.  Then about 2 weeks later, I have to do it all again.  Anyone else ever have this happen to them or know something I could check on?
[05:04] <z0rz> cosmodad: I'd like to type ssh -X box.z0rz.com and then when it logins type screen -r .. and all my gui windows pop up.. then when I Ctrl-a-d it'd close all the gui windows.. but keep them open in the background on the server...
[05:04] <cosmodad> c01100011: ekiga can do that.
[05:04] <cosmodad> z0rz: again, if you use VNC, you can close the VNC session and resume it later from possibly another machine.
[05:04] <c01100011> cosmodad what client would the iwndows user use ?
[05:04] <nickrud> mattgyver83, no, you can run those gnome apps as well
[05:05] <nickrud> mattgyver83, and kde, if you must :)
[05:05] <cosmodad> c01100011: oh sorry, didn't catch there was a windows user involved
[05:05] <c01100011> yes, i have linux trying to talk to a windows user
[05:05] <mattgyver83> well im stupid because i just realized that im using xfce as well which would have answered my question, thanks!
[05:05] <z0rz> Right.. but then the physical desktop of the server is effected.. I'd like to login in remotely to a box .. work on a vnc like session.. without effecting the active user
[05:05] <annihilus> does anyone know where the plugins dir for gedit resides
[05:05] <cosmodad> z0rz: you don't necessarily do that!
[05:05] <mattgyver83> i need to remember to think before i speak
[05:06] <Ice_> cosmodad, I found a script which might save my butt but I need you to help me install it
[05:06] <cosmodad> z0rz: you can run VNC unaffecting any running user
[05:06] <Ice_> or someone here
[05:06] <Ice_> can anyone here
[05:06] <Ice_> help me install a script
[05:06] <z0rz> cosmodad: Link please :D
[05:06] <cosmodad> z0rz: hold on
[05:06] <Falstius> cosmodad: z0rz: unless the host computer has dual monitors in which case you can screw up their panels (grumbles)
[05:06] <rgriley> Ubuntu is stalling at boot and leaving my system in root shell (!?!?!?!) when I turn off 2 of my 3 external USB drives. I have specified them as "noauto" in the fstab. What is going wrong?
[05:06] <cosmodad> Ice_: what is it
[05:07] <mattgyver83> Since you guys are on the topic of VNC, is it possible to make a connection through display:0 without the use of x11vnc?
[05:07] <z0rz> Falstius: I would be using dual monitors if it wasn't for the stupid 4096 pixel frame buffer ATI cards have...
[05:07] <Ice_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528238&highlight=DWL-G132
[05:07] <cosmodad> Falstius, z0rz: why. VNC works like this: you start a VNC server under your remote user's name and then you your local user's VNC viewer session to access it. No other users involved
[05:08] <mattgyver83> With x11 i can make a connection, however it does not ask me for a password and just assumes the connection without it.  Without it I can only create new window manager sessions.
[05:08] <cosmodad> z0rz: damn those links I have are in German.
[05:08] <rgriley> Anyone?
[05:09] <Falstius> cosmodad: it is funiness in the gnome settings stuff.  When I start a vnc session (running gnome) on this machine, it forces all of the panels to the primary monitor.   There might be some other remote protocols out there as well
[05:10] <z0rz> cosmodad: They don't resize the desktops properly and when I'm at school in the lab computers.. their 1024x768 res doesn't cut it when I'm running at 16x12
[05:10] <z0rz> cosmodad: And autoscaling looks liek shiz
[05:10] <Falstius> z0rz: for some reason the ones on ubuntu are especially bad.  I've had better luck with RHEL (I can't tell you the exact versions at the moment)
[05:10] <cosmodad> z0rz: supplying the correct geometry to vnc viewer might fix this
[05:10] <deathguppie> I can't seem to unmount a cdrom while the game is installing under wine..
[05:11] <z0rz> remote desktop connection on windows, I have to say is pretty amazing
[05:11] <stefano> Does having ssh-daemon on make my linux pc-server more vulnerable to attacks?
[05:11] <cosmodad> Ice_: so what's that script doing on your machine?
[05:11] <saeed> jjjsa
[05:11] <cosmodad> stefano: unless you're behind a firewall or NAT-router, yes.
[05:12] <Ice_> cosmodad, it's reconfiguring my adapter every time I start up
[05:12] <z0rz> I just love the fact that it brings, sound, printers, drives, and com ports locally.. and also the performance seems pretty amazing.. Full screen support and it automatically changes your resolution.  You can also login without effecting the active user with a dll replacement.. oh and it can be tunneled over SSH so security isn't a problem
[05:12] <Ice_> I just dont know how to make it
[05:12] <Ice_> I'm in channel #ice if you want to help me there
[05:12] <stefano> cosmodad, how could i tell if i am behind a NAT-router?
[05:12] <stefano> Isn't iptables enough?
[05:13] <cosmodad> stefano: well do you use a router?
[05:13] <demonspork> Ice_, try #bash
[05:13] <Ice_> #bash
[05:13] <cosmodad> stefano: iptables is a firewall.
[05:13] <z0rz> stefano: Do you have a Linksys, Netgear, D-Link, or other branded router between you and your modem?
[05:13] <Falstius> stefano: if your IP address is 10.0.xxxx or 192.168.xxx you are behind a NAT firewall
[05:14] <stefano> Well, my modem and the hub is all i have.
[05:14] <stefano> Ok.
[05:14] <stefano> Then i am behind a NAT firewall.
[05:14] <z0rz> stefano: Personally, I wouldn't be worrying about SSH being hacked into.. If you have a good password for your user, then you should have other things to worry about, then if "Secure Shell" is secure or not.
[05:15] <z0rz> stefano: Just make sure you run the ubuntu updates to keep it patched
[05:15] <cosmodad> stefano: right now, I can connect to your IP on SSH port
[05:15] <z0rz> "patched" .. heh
[05:15] <stefano> I have been told that the passwd file could be "decoded" in a couple of hours.
[05:15] <z0rz> stefano: ... How are they going to get your passwd file?
[05:15] <cosmodad> stefano: only if passwords are picked in  dumb fashion
[05:15] <stefano> cosmodad, What does that mean?
[05:16] <cosmodad> stefano: it means you're either not behind a firewall/NAT or you are forwarding SSH port to your machine
[05:16] <cosmodad> stefano: if you meant the password note: it means picking too simple passwords
[05:16] <sdouble> I am using the open source drivers for my ATI card, but sometimes it randomly loses 3d functionality and I have to reinstall to get it working again.  Then about 2 weeks later, I have to do it all again.  Anyone else ever have this happen to them or know something I could check on?
[05:16] <Falstius> z0rz: through skype ;)  but passwords aren't kept in passwd.
[05:16] <z0rz> cosmodad: You could connect to my ssh server too if you knew my ip...  I doubt that many people use some sort of port knocking to open up port 22
[05:17] <cosmodad> z0rz: I was just pointing out that he doesn't have a NAT/firewall protect him from connecting
[05:17] <z0rz> stefano: You're best bet is to change the port SSH operates on.. to something between 1024 and.. uhh 65000 or something like that
[05:17] <z0rz> cosmodad: Well I do.. but I have a hole poked for it.. so I can get in anyways
[05:17] <z0rz> I do too*
[05:17] <c01100011> anyone familiar with using ekiga to comunicate with netmeeting ?
[05:18] <cosmodad> stefano: an even better bet is you pick a hard password for your users, restrict ssh to only the users you need and possibly disable password login
[05:18] <terryofastoria> stefano, you want a good secure password, and I suggest setting up ssh-server to listen on a nonstandard port. Like 45760 or whatever.
[05:18] <stefano> Ok, i could change port, but isn't getting a ssh prompt enough for a hacker?
[05:18] <cosmodad> z0rz: he didn't even know whether he had a NAT, so he most likely didn't forward either
[05:18] <terryofastoria> If he scans ports and finds your box at 22 he will try.
[05:18] <cosmodad> stefano: unless a hacker knows your password, you're right safe.
[05:18] <stefano> lol,
[05:18] <stefano> I forwarded everything to server.
[05:18] <stefano> All my three machines have ssh on.
[05:19] <z0rz> stefano: They won't get an ssh prompt unless they try to login in on every port possible until they find that port you have open.. I guess if they are really dedicated to get into your machine they would be able to port scan your whole computer... but most hackers port scan 1 port on a bunch of computers
[05:19] <cosmodad> stefano: the whole world uses SSH. Just make sure you know how to harden it.
[05:19] <stefano> cosmodad, does the prompt say stefano server?
[05:19] <the_hatter> Yo, anybody familiar with using Rhythm Box?
[05:19] <cosmodad> stefano: it doesn't say anything
[05:19] <stefano> Is there a way to have a different password only for ssh?
[05:20] <cosmodad> stefano: you don't get that info prior to logging in
[05:20] <multiverse> Hello all!
[05:20] <cosmodad> stefano: not the easy way I think...
[05:20] <stefano> oh :(
[05:20] <cosmodad> stefano: it's better to make a user only for external logins
[05:20] <cosmodad> stefano: and give that user a really tough password
[05:20] <multiverse> I just bought a new Lenovo Thinkpad R61 with 4 GB RAM.
[05:20] <stefano> oh ok, i see.
[05:21] <cosmodad> stefano: you should take a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config, especially AllowUser(s?)
[05:21] <`LePGeL[BoY] > help? how can i unmount a hardrive in terminal?
[05:21] <stefano> How could i set ssh to run only for that user or login info for that user?
[05:21] <Icetea> help me
[05:21] <cosmodad> `LePGeL[BoY] : sudo umount <mount point>
[05:21] <annihilus> anyone know how to install third party plugins in gedit, having trouble finding the right dir
[05:21] <stefano> cosmodad, great... ill take a look at it. Does man pages have more info on it?
[05:21] <cosmodad> stefano: AllowUser
[05:21] <`LePGeL[BoY] > cosmodad: thanks
[05:21] <Icetea> how can i install vmware tool on ubuntu 7.04 . I'm using vmware server <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:21] <cosmodad> stefano: tons!
[05:21] <stefano> :D
[05:21] <k3td> geek squad told me to get xp or better so i said linux :D
[05:22] <cosmodad> stefano: you can do an awful lot with ssh.
[05:22] <Icetea> how can i install vmware tool on ubuntu 7.04 . I'm using vmware server <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:22] <stefano> conquer the world? ^^
[05:22] <cosmodad> !patience | Icetea
[05:22] <ubotu> Icetea: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:22] <GamingX> hello guys, I noticed something surprising, I am the only user on my system who uses ubuntu, and when I logged in and went to access my yahoo mail, I saw that its asking me for to confirm a password for a user I dont know, Any Ideas?
[05:23] <stefano> Anyone know if Gutsy is at a state where i could preform an "distro-upgrade" from feisty?
[05:23] <saeed>
[05:23] <Icetea> @gamingX : the same to me :D
[05:23] <mjancaitis> My windows keep opening up in the background, how did I manage to do that and how can I change it back?
[05:23] <cosmodad> z0rz: this might be interesting for you: http://cyberelk.net/tim/articles/VNC/
[05:23] <saeed>
[05:23] <saeed>
[05:23] <saeed>
[05:23] <saeed>
[05:24] <z0rz> saeed: You're cool
[05:24] <multiverse> It appears that 7.04 and 7.10 (Tribe 5) doesn't have the 64 bit driver for my nVIDIA card.  I'd like to visually check that out, look on the install media, but I don't know how.
[05:24] <z0rz> cosmodad: I'll have to read it...
[05:24] <Flannel> stefano: You can.  #ubuntu+1 could tell you about the stability of feisty itself though
[05:24] <z0rz> Is there a way to get my scroll lock button to light up when I have scroll lock on?
[05:24] <cosmodad> z0rz: only looked over it, but there're some solutions presented for VNC-likish
[05:24] <stefano> Flannel, thanks.
[05:25] <multiverse> I want to do as much as I can do inform people on how to deal with this, so I'd like to learn how to solve my own problems.
[05:25] <Icetea> is there anyone using virtual ubuntu ?
[05:25] <mjancaitis> multiverse: what's the question again?
[05:26] <multiverse>  It appears that 7.04 and 7.10 (Tribe 5) doesn't have the 64 bit driver for my nVIDIA card.  I'd like to visually check that out, look on the install media, but I don't know how.
[05:26] <Flannel> multiverse: In the directories on the mirrors of the CD, you'll find .list files, that's all the files on the CD.  For desktop CDs, the manifest files will give you all the debs that are compiled into the image.
[05:26] <GamingX> Icetea: You have any Ideas?
[05:27] <Flannel> multiverse: for instance: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.manifest http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.list
[05:27] <multiverse> For more details on the issue, go here:
[05:27] <multiverse> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2874209#post2874209
[05:27] <Icetea> gamingX: nope, i'm having prob. When ubuntu asks for the password, i cannot type anything, cannot use the keyboard too
[05:27] <Flannel> multiverse: The former has all the stuff inside the liveCD image, the latter has any other packages on the CD
[05:27] <stefano> Is there a way to have a thin-client with ubuntu? I was wondering if i could set up a pc, that from the moment it is turned on it is ready to use, in seconds.
[05:27] <Icetea> GamingX: how can I ?
[05:27] <Flannel> multiverse: for alternat CD, there are only list files, because there is no image with packages in it
[05:27] <terryofastoria> Icetea: the password doesn't echo on screen.
[05:27] <saeed> hi
[05:27] <GoodHabit> Hello. How i can configure the built-in compiz? How to work "the cube of workspaces" & etc.
[05:28] <karud> I just installed ubuntu on my intel mac; screen shuts off after GRUB loads
[05:28] <saeed> i am cool
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> !effects | GoodHabit
[05:28] <ubotu> GoodHabit: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[05:28] <Flannel> stefano: Edubuntu has some really neat thinclient installation media.  You could obviously configure it to be less edubuntu afterwards.
[05:29] <}btorch{> how can I make an iso image ? I'm using mkisofs but some of the files are longer than 31 chars
[05:29] <saeed> kkkk
[05:30] <saeed> fuke me
[05:30] <{NmE}> Hello ladies!
[05:30] <saeed> if you  can
[05:30] <karud> I'm getting a dead screen after GRUB loads? What's wrong?
[05:30] <rebootjac> I got this weird message when doing a routine package update
[05:30] <{NmE}> Are you using a laptop, Karud?
[05:30] <karud> yeah
[05:30] <pjman> Hi everyone. I'm running Feisty with compiz using Amaranth's Repository. How do I get 3d windows when I rotate the cube?
[05:31] <GamingX> I dont like the fonts and the layout, where do you change this?
[05:31] <stefano> Flannel, thanks for the info. looking into it.
[05:31] <{NmE}> Karud, do you have an extra monitor you could plug into the back of your laptop?
[05:31] <mjancaitis> pjman: there's a 3d windows section on beryl-manager, have you tried it?
[05:31] <c01100011> yes, i have linux trying to talk to a windows user
[05:31] <karud> I do, should I try that?
[05:31] <mjancaitis> GamingX: there's a fonts section under System-Administration
[05:31] <c01100011> recommendations for video chat program to talk with a windows user ? i am trying to use skype inside vmware but lose too much image quality
[05:31] <rebootjac> btw, I'm running feisty with beryl. It said to report it as a bug. Seems to not be able to download a critical package or something
[05:31] <saeed> stc
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> GamingX, system > preferences > fonts
[05:31] <saeed> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[05:32] <saeed> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[05:32] <roe> anyone know a good CAD program for linux?
[05:32] <Icetea> anyone having trouble when using sudo command ?
[05:32] <Fivetwentysix> Hi, I've decided to install Linux (Ubuntu), however I don't know if my specs are supported. My specs are Asus P5B Motherboard, Intel Q6600 cpu, 4gb 667mhz ram, Asus Geforce 8800gts
[05:32] <mjancaitis> Fivetwentysix: the 8800 might give you problems
[05:32] <TinFury> hey with Ubuntu if I want to tell what version of something I'm running how do I do it?
[05:33] <Fivetwentysix> What's wrong with my graphic card?
[05:33] <TinFury> I usually use rpm -qa program |grep beryl for eg.
[05:33] <TinFury> But I use RedHat usually.
[05:33] <mjancaitis> Fivetwentysix: too new
[05:33] <Flannel> pjman: Compiz Config Settings Manager (and that's all I know)
[05:33] <mjancaitis> Fivetwentysix: check the wiki
[05:33] <Icetea> anyone having trouble when using sudo command ?
[05:33] <mjancaitis> !nvidia | Fivetwentysix
[05:33] <ubotu> Fivetwentysix: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:33] <luite_> is it possible to use the power-saving features of the geforce 8800/8600 series cards in linux?
[05:33] <jj_> So I can't even get the ubuntu-live cd to start with safe graphics mode...X complains that sreens were found but none were useable, then dumps me to a terminal
[05:33] <terryofastoria> for video chat program I set up amsn and my friend has been chatting w/video to Venezuela from Oregon.
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | Icetea
[05:34] <ubotu> Icetea: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:34] <dddd>  if you pass a car when there are no lines on the road, would you expect that to be illegal?
[05:34] <pjman> mjancaitis: I'm using Amaranth's Repository so I'm running compiz not beryl...
[05:34] <nickrud> dddd, of course, what's not permitted is denied
[05:34] <multiverse> Thanks for the information Flannel.  I do have one more question:  you gave me the information for releases  http://releases.ubuntu.com but I am working on 7.10 Tribe 5.  Where do I go for that?  TIA
[05:34] <Fivetwentysix> mjancaitis didn't 8800 come out like in january?
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Fivetwentysix, driver support
[05:34] <pjman> Flannel: I must be blind :-) I don't see anything about 3d windows in compiz config settings manager....
[05:35] <Icetea> when using sudo command, it asks for a password, but i don't know what password is it and i cannot type anything in the terminal
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> !sudo | Icetea
[05:35] <ubotu> Icetea: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:35] <Flannel> multiverse: Its like that on any mirror.  I just picked one, uh, devel is on cdimage: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/gutsy-alternate-amd64.list
[05:35] <nickrud> Icetea, it's seeing your keystrokes, not showing them. And use your regular password
[05:35] <{NmE}> Icetea, it does not show the letters you type in the password
[05:35] <MoLE_> multiverse, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/
[05:36] <multiverse> Thank you Flannel and MoLE_
[05:36] <rebootjac> can't install "ubuntu-desktop" package. Says to report as a bug.. any ideas?
[05:36] <{NmE}> Icetea, you also had to have set a password when installing ubuntu and setting up your accout.. Whatever password you used there type in after sudo
[05:36] <Icetea> thanks all
[05:36] <nickrud> rebootjac, first, check your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure you have the main repository enabled
[05:36] <jj_> Is there not possibility to run Ubuntu if I can't get the live CD to start an X Server? My graphics card is only an ATI laptop gfx card.
[05:36] <rebootjac> ok, I will hold on
[05:37] <mjancaitis> jj_ : no, you can still run ubuntu
[05:37] <mjancaitis> jj_: easiest way is to use the alternate-install CD
[05:37] <ddonky> jj_ - you may have to change the video settings
[05:37] <mjancaitis> jj_: then deal with your video drivers
[05:38] <jj_> mjancaitis: ddonky: thanks, I'll give that a try...where does the alternate cd hide, I hvaen't seen it before...
[05:38] <XMF> is there a another network manager besides gnome network manager and rutilt?
[05:38] <TinFury> Can anyone tell me how to check the version of a program?
[05:38] <mjancaitis> jj_: go to the ubuntu site, and where you go to download it, check the box underneath the download button that says "alternate CD
[05:38] <mjancaitis> "
[05:38] <nickrud> TinFury, usually <programname> --version works
[05:39] <TinFury> Thanks. Is there anything like rpm -q
[05:39] <nickrud> TinFury, dpkg -l is similar
[05:39] <TinFury> Thanks
[05:39] <mjancaitis> nickrud: any idea why all my windows are opening without focus (opening in the background)?
[05:39] <nickrud> TinFury, apt-cache policy shows a bit more
[05:40] <TinFury> Awesome. I like to use apt
[05:40] <nickrud> mjancaitis, not a clue (hope I never see that, either ;)
[05:40] <TinFury> Couldn't figure how to get the ver though.. thanks
[05:40] <mjancaitis> nickrud: for once, google is utterly useless too
[05:40] <fungalMonk> Oh my, big channel
[05:40] <Rowan> has anyone successfully setup dual monitors with an intel graphics card?
[05:40] <{NmE}> ----If I install the 64bit version of Ubuntu am I going to have to make sure everything else is 64 bit, like flash/beryl??
[05:40] <Zemus> I'm using gparted for the first time. It's warning me that if I set disklabel (I currently have an unallocated partition highlighted), I'll lose all information on /dev/hda. Does anyone know if that means I'll lose info on unallocated (none), or if I lose all the info on the entire hard drive?
[05:40] <Falstius> TinFury: you can also use apt-cache show <packagename>
[05:40] <Fivetwentysix> btw
[05:40] <nickrud> fungalMonk, turn off join/part, it becomes manageable :)
[05:40] <Fivetwentysix> for the q6600
[05:40] <mjancaitis> Rowan: the updates will do that for you
[05:40] <TinFury> eek.
[05:40] <TinFury> lol
[05:40] <Fivetwentysix> do i install 64bit or 32bit?
[05:40] <TinFury> Thanks
[05:41] <Rowan> mjancaitis, what do you mean?
[05:41] <Zemus> ... anyone?
[05:41] <raziEL> Hi all
[05:41] <nickrud> Fivetwentysix, use the 32bit, you'll be much happier with the package availability
[05:41] <{NmE}> kk
[05:41] <fungalMonk> nickrud, thanks for the tip... even so, big/busy channel compared to most I'm in. :)
[05:41] <Megaqwerty> anyone know if I could get "aa" to play a vid in the terminal somehow?
[05:41] <Zemus> :|
[05:41] <z0rz> Is there a portable firefox for linux?
[05:41] <Zemus> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
[05:42] <multiverse> z0rz:  what do you mean portable?
[05:42] <Fivetwentysix> nickrud
[05:42] <rebootjac> hmm.. seems to be enabled. I have Ubutnu Studio if that makes any difference
[05:42] <Fivetwentysix> doesn't 64 bit have better support?
[05:42] <nickrud> Megaqwerty, you can use mplayer -ao aa I think
[05:42] <mjancaitis> Zemus: I thnk you'll lose everything if you try and change the label
[05:42] <Falstius> Zemus: it sounds like it means the whole drive (not just the unallocated space)
[05:42] <Megaqwerty> nickrud: that starts "aa for X though...right?"
[05:42] <dxdt> I need help with formatting a USB stick.  It isn't letting me.  :(  I'm stuck in this hell where it says it is mounted, so then I unmount it, but then mkfs says it can't find the device.  Very annoying.
[05:42] <Zemus> Falstius, mjancaitis thanks guys :)
[05:42] <raziEL> hi all
[05:42] <z0rz> multiverse: Well I'd like to go to the school computers and plugin my thumb drive.. and have all my extensions installed on my firefox install.. but I don't want to effect the current version of firefox on the school's machine
[05:42] <rebootjac> nickrud: hmm.. seems to be enabled. I have Ubutnu Studio if that makes any difference
[05:42] <mjancaitis> Rowan: apt-get will know what version you have and what's compatible when you try and get new apps
[05:43] <nickrud> Fivetwentysix, no, for example flash won't work easily in 64bit.
[05:43] <Megaqwerty> nickrud: and I think it would be -vo, no?
[05:43] <raziEL> nickrud, are you sure ?
[05:43] <multiverse> My feeling is that you could have a configured Firefox on the thumbdrive.
[05:43] <Rowan> yes i know. i use apt-get, but is there some sort of thing i need to apt-get? i don't see any apps to dual-monitor
[05:43] <Fivetwentysix> oh and will 32 bit ubuntu support 4 gb of ram?
[05:43] <nickrud> Megaqwerty, you know more than I about that, I see (that's why I added I think)
[05:44] <nickrud> Fivetwentysix, I think (again) it's 3.2 gb
[05:44] <Megaqwerty> nickrud: dang...alright.
[05:44] <c01100011>  recomendations for a cross platform (lin to win) video chat ?
[05:44] <Megaqwerty> Anyone else have a clue?

[05:44] <Fivetwentysix> what kind of packages do 32 bit users get that 64 bit users don't
[05:44] <Icetea> exit
[05:44] <multiverse> c01100011:  Skype
[05:44] <toyimp> Why do I have to reset my resolution every time I reboot?
[05:44] <exsequor> I installed beryl and now the X, minimize, and maximize buttons disappeared. How can I fix this?
[05:45] <nickrud> rebootjac, i've not had ubuntu studio installed; could you post the error somewhere?
[05:45] <Falstius> Fivetwentysix: flash and video codecs, other binary only stuff.
[05:45] <c01100011> multiverse, no video support in linux
[05:45] <Fivetwentysix> but there are workarounds to that right?
[05:45] <toyimp> exsequor, disable Desktop Effects from System > Preferences > Desktop Effects
[05:45] <Falstius> exsequor: there is a note about that in the ubuntu wiki
[05:45] <Megaqwerty> Anyone? ^^
[05:46] <nickrud> Fivetwentysix, yes; if you're even moderately comfortable with a command line it's doable
[05:46] <Fivetwentysix> Sounds good then.
[05:47] <mjancaitis> Megaqwerty: what was your question again?
[05:47] <Falstius> exsequor: from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnFeisty --   sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:47] <z0rz> multivers: Yes but how?
[05:47] <Megaqwerty> "anyone know if I could get "aa" to play a vid in the terminal somehow?"
[05:47] <mjancaitis> Ooh
[05:47] <mjancaitis> Dunno
[05:48] <rebootjac> nickrud: It doesn't really give me a error.. do you know where the log would be kept for botched installs? The message I get when I try to do a partial upgrade says, "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop' It was impossible to install a required package. Please report this as a bug."
[05:48] <GreenOlive> yeah i am
[05:48] <rebootjac> nickrud: btw, thanks for your help!
[05:48] <multiverse> z0rz:  what you want to do is independent of Ubuntu.  I suggest an exhaustive search at a search engine for "firefox usb" or some such combination of keywords.
[05:48] <nickrud> rebootjac, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:49] <mjancaitis> z0rz: might look into swiftfox too, it's a smaller package and might be better suited; there's always Tor, too
[05:49] <Omen_Bearer> yst.org
[05:49] <k3td> hmm can some one help me out with some simple html
[05:49] <k3td> ?
[05:49] <exsequor> toyimp, desktop effects were never enabled so I enabled them and disabled them again and now beryl won't start at all
[05:49] <k3td> i just need to align an img but its not working right
[05:50] <lordmemo5> hey can somebody help me installing cmpiz funsion in ubuntu
[05:50] <nickrud> mjancaitis, I think I know what you're seeing with your background windows: start one again, but make sure that you don't have a currently opened app focused
[05:50] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: Is this what you're looking for? http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
[05:50] <toyimp> exsequor, ask in #compiz-fusion
[05:50] <BlendArt> I accidentally added a wrong word to gedit.  How would I remove it?
[05:50] <houmala> How much memory does a stock standard installation on fiesty 7.04 support??
[05:50] <lordmemo5> hey can somebody help me installing cmpiz funsion in ubuntu
[05:50] <toyimp> exsequor, that's what fixed it for me was disabling that
[05:50] <rebootjac> nickrud: Also get this when I close out the first message, "Could not calculate the upgrade A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport."
[05:50] <exsequor> toyimp, I'm not using compiz-fusion
[05:51] <nickrud> rebootjac, then if the apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work, I'd do what the messages say
[05:51] <z0rz> mjancaitis: And I could put that on a thumb drive and run the whole thing from the thumb drive?
[05:51] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: my link will give you what you want
[05:52] <nickrud> BlendArt, your question is a bit vague
[05:52] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Exactly... Do you have a link?
[05:52] <Born_In_Xixax> hi all - i would like to remotely monitor my kids ubuntu pc's - need some way to automatically take screenshots of any active X session every X minutes (i can grab the files remotely) - any ideas or other suggestions?
[05:52] <Megaqwerty>  http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
[05:52] <rebootjac> nickrud: ok I will try.. thanks for your kind support!
[05:52] <mjancaitis> z0rz: Tor? Yes, it's designed to be a completely untraceable browser you can bring with you
[05:52] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: that's the link
[05:52] <BlendArt> nickrud: ?
[05:52] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: I don't have a Windows box to run it on....
[05:52] <nickrud> rebootjac, support is when it works; all I gave was the moral kind :)
[05:52] <lordmemo5> please help me install comfusion
[05:52] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: oh, didn't notice that...
[05:52] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: try wine?
[05:52] <nickrud> BlendArt, added a word to gedit?
[05:52] <lordmemo5> i reallly need it
[05:52] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Haha, no thanks
[05:52] <BlendArt> nickrud: Yes
[05:52] <Rowan> hey houmala 256mb RAM is required
[05:53] <coded1> i just installed ubuntu for my first time! all went well.  I have 2 seperate video cards though, one agp which it picked up np and a pci, which hardware manager picks up but i dont know how to use it in X, any ideas?
[05:53] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: I'll look for a Linux port.
[05:53] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Btw, I already have that exact version of ff on my thumb drive
[05:53] <nickrud> BlendArt, I don't know what that is. Added a word to a file you edited with gedit? or what?
[05:53] <pjman> I'd like to try deluge-torrent. I don't see it in Feisty's repositories yet it's in edgy and gutsy... anyone know why? Am I doing something wrong? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=deluge&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[05:53] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: so...what are you looking for?
[05:53] <^_^> ai.................
[05:53] <lordmemo5> please help me install compiz fusion
[05:53] <houmala> how much memory does a standard install of 7.04 support??
[05:53] <Rowan> hey houmala 256mb RAM is required
[05:54] <raf256> hmmmmmm
[05:54] <Flannel> 256 isn't required.  But I think he was asking for top end
[05:54] <multiverse> Megaqwerty:  sweet link
[05:54] <Born_In_Xixax> hi houmala, using the alternate install cd, i have several pc's running fine on 128mb
[05:54] <raf256>  #ubuntu-ops You're banned from that channel  what the hell?
[05:54] <houmala> i have 4 GB does 7.04 support it ??
[05:54] <Born_In_Xixax> the live cd won't work with that much though
[05:54] <Kasuko> Hello
[05:54] <thiebaude> the live cd requires 256
[05:54] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: That link you gave me... is exactly what I'm looking for.. except for Ubuntu
[05:54] <Fivetwentysix> houmala i think only 64 bit version
[05:54] <Fivetwentysix> does
[05:54] <left1> does fiesty desktop effects remove the menu bar for anyone else?
[05:54] <nickrud> pjman, probably the package wasn't in good shape when feisty was frozen; if you look around on bugs.launchpad.net you'll probably find out why.
[05:54] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: oh, then I'll look for a linux version
[05:55] <Megaqwerty> (Of the installer...I hope)
[05:55] <Welshy> :/ my ubuntu install went shitz
[05:55] <Rowan> oh hey look at that
[05:55] <Rowan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=displayconfig1.jpg
[05:55] <houmala> what is top end for memory in 7.04??
[05:55] <Rowan> gutsy will have what i'm looking for xD
[05:55] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Ideally I'd like to put my thumb drive into any linux machine and have my version of firefox installed with my extensions and bookmarks.. w/o effecting the host os
[05:55] <GamingX> @\\
[05:55] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: oh, so you won't be using it on windows pcs?
[05:55] <lordmemo5> how can compiz fusion can be installed??... any body???
[05:55] <coded1> has anyone heard of being able to use 2 video cards at the same time on linux other than sli?
[05:55] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Nope
[05:55] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: that's a hell of a lot more feasible!
[05:55] <CoasterMaster> !compiz | lordemono5
[05:55] <ubotu> lordemono5: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:56] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: What's that? ;)
[05:56] <orbisvicis> houmala, ubuntu has no top end, i believe. but 32 bit pcs are limited to ~3.5 Gb ram.
[05:56] <fivetwentysix2> i remember back in 1998 i had a 4gb harddrive
[05:56] <fivetwentysix2> and tried to install mandrake on it
[05:56] <nickrud> !xinerama | coded1
[05:56] <ubotu> coded1: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:56] <fivetwentysix2> and my harddrive broke
[05:56] <fivetwentysix2> during the partitioning
[05:56] <fivetwentysix2> lol
[05:56] <Kasuko> Can anyone help me with and internet problem? I seem connected to the router and I have and ip address and a DNS server but I have no internet. It worked for like three weeks and this seems out of the blue. I recently copied a command to open a port from iptables that is the nearest thing I did to the interent
[05:56] <maestrojed> I am using ubuntu for my first time.  I am building a web server.  Does Ubuntu Server have a GUI or just Ubuntu Desktop?
[05:56] <Rowan> !DualHead
[05:56] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[05:56] <houmala> that seems to agree with what i saw on a system monitor screen
[05:56] <coded1> nickrud, ubotu thanx
[05:57] <clearzen> Kasuko: Does the router itself have a ip address assigned to it?
[05:57] <fivetwentysix2> maestrojed only ubuntu desktop edition
[05:57] <Kasuko> yes
[05:57] <Kasuko> I can get on the internet with the windows box im on now
[05:57] <fivetwentysix2> maestrojed i suggest only using the server edition if you absolutely know all the commands neccessary
[05:58] <Welshy> Can anybody tell me why I would get stuck at the orange screen after i login on Ubuntu... Is was working fine until it froze and I restarted it.
[05:58] <Kasuko> through the same router
[05:58] <fivetwentysix2> you can also delete the gui
[05:58] <fivetwentysix2> if you no longer need it
[05:58] <onats> hi, which file identifies my machine's hostname? /etc/hostname?
[05:58] <Flannel> !hostname | onats
[05:58] <ubotu> onats: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[05:58] <craigbass1976> onats, maybe /etc/hosts
[05:58] <clearzen> Kasuko: Right, but are you getting a address on the WAN port of the router from the ISP?
[05:58] <nickrud> onats, yes, and it should be repeated in /etc/hosts on the same line as <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:59] <pjman> nickrud: thanks for the info. I'll install the deb.
[05:59] <Wolfsong> i just enabled my nVidia driver and rebooted and now i have a black screen. any ideas how to get it working?
[05:59] <Kasuko> clearzen, how do I find that out?
[05:59] <dvs01> w00t.. when's the new ubuntu expected to come out?
[05:59] <clearzen> Kasuko: Every router is different. You have to login and check the status of the connection
[05:59] <nickrud> pjman, what deb?
[05:59] <thiebaude> oct
[05:59] <clearzen> Kasuko: usually via web browser
[05:59] <nickrud> pjman, not a good idea to take one from either edgy or gutsy
[05:59] <maestrojed> fivetwentysix2: I know almost none of the commands.  I am building a test server to my production server which is linux (and managed by a company).  So I want my test server to be linux.  I was choosing ubuntu because I don't know the commands but I just installed server and saw that it was command line based.  If I use Unbuntu Desktop will I be able to turn it into a web server with apcahe and php running on it?
[06:00] <Kasuko> clearze, so me being on the router on a different computer connected to the internet doesnt mean anything
[06:00] <onats> thanks, but my router sees only '*' as the hostname of my device.. i dont know why it doesnt see the name. it's already defined in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.conf
[06:00] <pjman> nickrud, http://deluge-torrent.org/downloads
[06:00] <craigbass1976> nickrud, yes, you can
[06:00] <onats> i mean hosts
[06:00] <Flannel> maestrojed: You can.  There's no difference in "server" and "desktop" versions except the default packages installed from the CD
[06:00] <clearzen> Kasuko: It does. If the second router is chained with the first. and router a is the parent. Does that make sense to you?
[06:00] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, usually you get to the router by <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:00] <Kasuko> no im on the same router
[06:00] <nickrud> craigbass1976, the dependencies and the like are ok? Python didn't change versions again? :)
[06:00] <pjman> nickrud: they have a Feisty deb
[06:01] <Centaur5> Could somebody tell me if the pxelinux.0 file for thin clients should be located elsewhere on Feisty vs. Edgy?
[06:01] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Find anything yet?
[06:01] <Extravert> nickrud: Is there a way to edit gedits dictionary database?
[06:01] <nickrud> pjman, yes, I'd do that too
[06:01] <maestrojed> Flannel: very cool thank you for the advice
[06:01] <clearzen> I would trouble shoot this for you but I'm at work and I just got off. I'll be back online in a while though
[06:01] <nickrud> Extravert, ah, added a word to the dictionary. a sec
[06:01] <Kasuko> clearzen,both computers are on the same router
[06:01] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: kind of...found a reference to the possibility existing...just not anything tutorialwise
[06:01] <craigbass1976> nickrud, all you're doing is adding x and a desktop environment I imagine
[06:02] <Kasuko> clearzen, I dont have access to the router right now. Im at a friends house and I get the same problem
[06:02] <clearzen> Then it is a problem with the config of the computer
[06:02] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Yeah.. I think maybe I could just download the firefox source and compile it to a directory .. and then just copy the directory to my thumbe drive.. and then run the executable
[06:02] <swiftnomad> Hello. I have ubuntu 7.04 && I installed automatrix2 and it's not compatible. How do I delete it and download & install one compatible??
[06:02] <fivetwentysix2> maestrojed i pmed you
[06:02] <nickrud> craigbass1976, we were talking about deluge-torrent from an older or newer release
[06:02] <clearzen> I'll be back in a while if you are still here
[06:02] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, this might/might not work ... you might be royally screwed, but iptables --flush     ?
[06:02] <GamingX> !automatrix
[06:02] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:02] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: yeah. that would work.
[06:02] <mjancaitis> swiftnomad: it is compatible with 7.04, you've done something else wrong, unfortunately
[06:03] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, whats royally screwed mean? no chance of repair or just a bit more complicated?
[06:03] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: I can't believe I didn't think of it!
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> yay only 20mb
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> left
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> on my download
[06:03] <craigbass1976> nickrud, oh, I thought you were talking about running a web server on regular (as opposed to just text) ubuntu.  I missed something I guess
[06:03] <onats> my router sees only '*' as the hostname of my device.. i dont know why it doesnt see the name. it's already defined in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.conf
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> 10mb
[06:03] <shabboob> ok small issue i am trying to burn with k3b... whats happening is k3b sees my cdrom drive when i run it as root .... and when i run it as myself it doesnt see it period evn when i try to add it manually
[06:03] <swiftnomad> automatrix2? no when I start it it.. it tells me that it's only compatible with 6.06
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> 5 mb
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> 4
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> 3
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> 2
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> 1
[06:03] <fivetwentysix2> ya downloaded!
[06:03] <nickrud> craigbass1976, nah, just another conversation. Your eye lost the scroll ;)
[06:03] <Megaqwerty>  !automatix
[06:03] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:03] <mjancaitis> five: stop spamming, christ
[06:04] <craigbass1976> nickrud, smoke got in my eye
[06:04] <ianmcorvidae> !enter | fivetwentysix2
[06:04] <ubotu> fivetwentysix2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:04] <nickrud> lol
[06:04] <swiftnomad> Fetched 8604B in 5s (1584B/s)
[06:04] <swiftnomad> Reading package lists... Done
[06:04] <swiftnomad> W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CC919A31E23C5FC3
[06:04] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Heh.. you don't think there were will be any architechure specific problems do you? Like if I switch around to different intel based machines it won't fubar when it sees a different processor than the one it was compiled on?
[06:04] <maestrojed> fivetwentysix2: You are making me look like a rookie :) I am using x-chat and did not see a PM.  Not sure what to do
[06:04] <craigbass1976> nickrud, and I lost my glasses today.  Hey, do I know you from another linux room?  Fedora maybe?
[06:04] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, well it means if you execute that command i gave you to delete iptables rules & it doesnt work, well. um
[06:04] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: as long as it's still intel you should be fine. If you switch to an AMD pc...problems might occur...and then, maybe not.
[06:05] <XdorotaX> how do you restart the gnome panel?
[06:05] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: only used Linux on intel so far.
[06:05] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Eww.. but intel based I meant AMD too ;D
[06:05] <nickrud> Extravert, gedit uses a library to maintain local spell dictionaries, I though I knew off hand. I'll have to look (may need to know this myself one day)
[06:05] <bullgard4> I believe there is a IRC related command 'seen'. What is its syntax?
[06:05] <mjancaitis> swiftnomad: go to the automatix site, check out the wiki, and download the deb corresponding with your 7.04 version
[06:05] <fivetwentysix2> I like AMD but Intel has been out performing them in their recent chips
[06:05] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, ok well I did it and I didnt get an error, but didnt appear to work should I reboot?
[06:05] <nickrud> craigbass1976, no, I was here in 05 & early 06, you probably saw me here then
[06:05] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: My test machine is a 3200+ with 2gb of ram.. I test everything out before I put it on my "production" box :D
[06:05] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: so you will be using it with both intel and AMD?
[06:05] <onats> !hosts
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <onats> !host
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about host - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <onats> !hostname
[06:05] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[06:05] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: yes
[06:06] <thiebaude> !7.10
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i have been having issues connecting to available open wireless networks.. for example the one at the airport on which free wireless is available. it sees the netowork, it tries to connect, but never finishes and eventually gives up. sugesstions? I would really love to not have to be forced to use windows >_<
[06:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !gutsy | thiebaude
[06:06] <ubotu> thiebaude: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <z0rz> I guess what I could do.. is just ssh -X to my home computer and then run firefox from the commandline..
[06:06] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, no need. so then. Can you access the router, usually <IP_ADDRESS> in browser
[06:06] <nickrud> craigbass1976, exciting times, right after the warty release :)
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: you might wanna have two copies, and then have a symlink to your preferences in one of the installs, that way you have your settings working with everything
[06:06] <z0rz> That's a pretty good idea.. as long as it doesn't browse slow as hell
[06:06] <thiebaude> thanks
[06:06] <craigbass1976> What's 7.10, happy hacking?
[06:06] <Megaqwerty>  !gutsy
[06:06] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <fivetwentysix2> now all i have to do is install a new harddrive in my pc and install ubuntu
[06:07] <z0rz> !hardy
[06:07] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04, due April 2008.
[06:07] <fivetwentysix2> be back later to spam!
[06:07] <z0rz> :D
[06:07] <Megaqwerty> :-D
[06:07] <Toma-> Anyone know of a GUI GTKrc editor?
[06:07] <craigbass1976> nickrud, must have been in here.  I used fedora until FC5, then came in here with dapper
[06:07] <atrus> trying to print a landscape-oriented pdf to a portrait-oriented printer with evince in gutsy, but it stretches it instead of rotating it. suggestions?
[06:07] <thiebaude> can i download 7.10 from the terminal, just for testing purposes?
[06:07] <Kasuko> orbisvicis I cant access the router
[06:07] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: it wouldn't be slower than doing it over SSH!
[06:07] <Paddy_EIRE> thiebaude got to #ubuntu+1
[06:08] <thiebaude> thnx paddy
[06:08] <craigbass1976> 7.10 is gutsy?
[06:08] <nickrud> craigbass1976, yes, I took a sabbatical shortly after dapper, didn't touch a computer for nearly a year
[06:08] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: and of course, it would be as fast as if you ran only one copy...the symlink doesn't affect performance noticeably
[06:08] <Megaqwerty> craigbass1976: yes
[06:08] <z0rz> Anyone know why it's #ubuntn+1 .. I mean +1? Why not #ubuntu-beta or #ubuntu-non-stable or something aside +1
[06:09] <mjancaitis> z0rz: because it's the next version
[06:09] <Toma-> z0rz: for fun
[06:09] <demonspork> !ubuntu+2
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <craigbass1976> nickrud, it would have killed me.  I'm just about dying now--just got a new job and have to use windows...  How do people get anything done with just one desktop?
[06:09] <z0rz> ubotu isn't the same bot that was in here earlier .. is it?
[06:09] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, just to double check, instruction for accessing routers can be found http://portforward.com. just pick your router
[06:09] <KevinOman> do I need 2 nameservers to run a server?
[06:09] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: it's the original bot
[06:09] <rebootjac> nickrud: I think I figured it out. I'll pop on tomorrow sometime if it still gives me grief. Thanks again for all your help.
[06:10] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: it was under a diff name for a bit for some reason...but it's the original help bot
[06:10] <craigbass1976> KevinOman, not that I know of, I'm only running a web server on one
[06:10] <nickrud> darn, I hate that when they don't say what they thought it was
[06:10] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Are you an admin/op here?
[06:10] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: nope
[06:10] <KevinOman> how do I set up my nameserver craigbass1976
[06:10] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, I know how to access the router, I do all the time and used to be able to until recently
[06:11] <nickrud> craigbass1976, I took a nearly 10 year one in the nineties, didn't own one at all :) Needed to get outside again
[06:11] <craigbass1976> KevinOman, heh... biggum pain...  Need a walkthrough-ish thing?
[06:11] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i have been having issues connecting to available open wireless networks.. for example the one at the airport on which free wireless is available. it sees the netowork, it tries to connect, but never finishes and eventually gives up. sugesstions? I would really love to not have to be forced to use windows >_<
[06:11] <z0rz> I got one for ya'll .. I asked this in #irssi: when I press Alt+Left or Alt+Right to change between chans it says "3D" and "3C" instead of changing to different chans .. What do I need to change in Ubuntu's terminal to fix this?
[06:12] <Welshy> Can anybody tell me why I would get stuck at the orange screen after i login on Ubuntu... Is was working fine until it froze and I restarted it.
[06:12] <craigbass1976> KevinOman, are you registered on freenode?
[06:12] <KevinOman> craigbass1976: I have all the software installed I just don't know how to set it up
[06:12] <Tonren> The workaround at this bug URL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/85488 says to disable something in "linux-source".  What is "linux-source" and how do I disable things in it?
[06:12] <KevinOman> craig and I on my own url
[06:12] <Luke> does anyone know what Ubuntu package contains the "pdflatex" program? I can't find it anywhere
[06:13] <craigbass1976> KevinOman, are you registered on freenode?
[06:13] <marty> Why do you need 'pdflatex'?
[06:13] <KevinOman> craigbass1976: I own a url
[06:13] <KevinOman> craigbass1976: no
[06:13] <craigbass1976> KevinOman, do you im?
[06:13] <iblicf> /join #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <KevinOman> yup
[06:14] <craigbass1976> KevinOman, join #craigbass
[06:14] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, I dont even get the log in page, it just times out
[06:14] <Megaqwerty> craigbass1976: /msg NickServ SET  UNFILTERED
[06:14] <mneptok> z0rz: use alt [1-2] [q-o]  to change windows
[06:14] <Megaqwerty> craigbass1976: that will allow you to private chat with unregistered users
[06:14] <z0rz> mneptok: I know how to change windows that way
[06:14] <nickrud> Extravert, its ~/.aspell.en.pws here
[06:14] <marty_> If you're using  Ubunutu, Evince handles PDFs.
[06:14] <mneptok> errr ... [1-0]
[06:14] <craigbass1976> Really,,,
[06:14] <Extravert> nickrud: ?
[06:15] <orbisvicis> Kasuko. rather stumped. maybe the driver stopped working, or is no longer detected? try dmesg|tail or lspci ?
[06:15] <Extravert> nickrud: oh
[06:15] <Megaqwerty> craigbass1976: Yep!
[06:15] <mneptok> z0rz: what are you using as a term?
[06:15] <Luke> does anyone know what Ubuntu package contains the "pdflatex" program?
[06:15] <nickrud> Extravert, forgot to put a word in my local spelling directory, that's what took so long :)
[06:15] <Extravert> nickrud: I dont have that folder =/
[06:15] <marty_> Looks like that guy just asked a question and left...
[06:15] <nickrud> Extravert, it's a file
[06:15] <z0rz> mneptok: Well whatever is best :D ... Right now just ubuntu's terminal.. but I'd gladly switch to anything that outperforms it
[06:16] <raziEL>  #ubuntu-br
[06:16] <Woosta> Where can I find a repos that has older version of some stuff? To match my hosting environment I need mysql 4.1x and php 4 .. but my local distro is feisty
[06:16] <nickrud> Extravert, ~ is shorthand for your home directory, if that's what you mean
[06:16] <Megaqwerty> Luke:   texlive-base-bin and tetex-bin
[06:16] <Extravert> nickrud: Found it. Thank you!
[06:16] <z0rz> Anyone have a suggestion of a more feature rich terminal?
[06:16] <nickrud> Extravert, yw.
[06:16] <Slaj_R> If xmms thinks a program is blocking my soundcard, how can I find out what's doing it?  System Monitor isn't telling me much.
[06:16] <mjancaitis> Terminals need features?
[06:17] <z0rz> mjancaitis: No.. they just need to work
[06:17] <marty_> @Woosta: Try looking up 'mySQL 4.1 deb' in a search engine, or something like that.
[06:17] <Extravert> nickrud: Now I can just add words directly to it =)
[06:17] <Luke> Megaqwerty: I think the texlive package is for texlive support
[06:17] <nickrud> Extravert, I think so, yes.
[06:17] <Luke> Megaqwerty: I'll look at tetex-bin
[06:17] <marty_> @Luke why do you need that package?
[06:17] <Tonren> quit
[06:17] <z0rz> mjancaitis: And I can't get the default one to work.. so I'm looking for one that let's me edit the key codes it sends to the server.. so It'll work
[06:17] <Megaqwerty> Luke: according to "command-not-found" that's what contains that command *shurgs*
[06:17] <Woosta> marty_: yeah, there's plenty of them .. but finding one that's compatible with feisty is the problem ..
[06:17] <thiebaude> when i goto justin.tv the flash works but the chat area next to it doesn't, it keeps saying Loading...
[06:17] <mjancaitis> Ah
[06:18] <thiebaude> anyone know of a fix?
[06:18] <Megaqwerty> Luke: command-not-found is a python program built into ubuntu btw
[06:18] <holotone> For some reason, my Feisty shutdown menu suddenly doesn't include "Shut Down". I only get Log Out, Lock Screen, Switch User, Suspend, & Hibernate - Any suggestions?
[06:18] <Luke> Megaqwerty: interesteng - thanks
[06:18] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, on dmesg|tail I get lines saying [12238.25600]  DROPPED IN=eth1 OUT=Mac=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:etc SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=78 etc etc
[06:19] <Luke> Megaqwerty: I think it's tetex-bin. Thanks a lot for telling me about command-not-found btw! =)
[06:19] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, and on lspci i can see my card its a built in wireless card
[06:19] <Megaqwerty> holotone: no idea, but poweroff is the terminal command.
[06:19] <mjancaitis> Anybody know any reason my new windows receive no focus?
[06:19] <marty_> @holotone: put 'shutdown 0' into the terminal
[06:19] <Megaqwerty> Luke: you're quite welcome!
[06:19] <sport> i have a odd question can i turn the ls of a directory in to a text file?
[06:19] <tiarpaijo> rim gung?
[06:19] <Megaqwerty> sport: ls > filename
[06:19] <nickrud> mjancaitis, did you do that test, the one where you have a focused window when the new one opens?
[06:20] <Megaqwerty> sport: that's the command
[06:20] <nickrud> mjancaitis, and the opposite?
[06:20] <holotone> Megaqwerty: that'll do.. thanks!
[06:20] <holotone> marty_: Will this reboot my computer, or help me resolve the missing menu entry?
[06:20] <Megaqwerty> holotone: you're welcome.
[06:20] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, ok the drivers work. are you connected to the wireless network? power failure can mess with any router wireless security
[06:20] <sport> filename being anything and it will save that into the folder its ls'in ?
[06:20] <mjancaitis> nickrud: if I have, for instance, my IM window open and I click for a terminal
[06:20] <marty_> @sport: try highlighting the ls output and right-clicking>copy>paste ;-)
[06:21] <mjancaitis> My IM window stays focused and my terminal comes up in the background
[06:21] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, and on lspci i can see my card -- Network Controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 8945ABG Network Connection
[06:21] <Megaqwerty> sport: yep
[06:21] <mjancaitis> nickrud: it's really frustrating with firefox, because the download dialog opens behind the page and I have to minimize/maximize to see it
[06:21] <Megaqwerty> you got it
[06:21] <bullgard4> I believe there is a IRC related command 'seen'. What is its syntax?
[06:22] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, I am connected at home I dont have security but here I have the WEP key
[06:22] <nickrud> mjancaitis, try alt-tab
[06:22] <mjancaitis> Alt-tab correctly moves focus
[06:22] <marty_> holotone: it should shutdown the computer, immediately. If you have something to do, 'shutdown 60' will give you a minute :-)
[06:22] <mjancaitis> nickrud: it's just when it opens
[06:23] <nickrud> mjancaitis, it's a feature :) if you have a focused window, metacity politely doesn't say you *must* look at this new window
[06:23] <mjancaitis> ... but I want it to
[06:23] <mjancaitis> I don't recall that being the case the other day
[06:24] <mjancaitis> Any way I can fix it?
[06:24] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, ok driver sees wireless & connects(?) but you get no internet traffic? most likely iptables issue
[06:24] <Megaqwerty> mjancaitis: using compiz or beryl?
[06:24] <mjancaitis> Megaqwerty: beryl
[06:24] <nickrud> mjancaitis, did you change any of the window settings? like sloppy focus, or anything? And I prefer this, since if I'm expecting the new window I just move the mouse pointer to the desktop
[06:24] <Megaqwerty> mjancaitis: minimize all the windows, then unminimize them, the problem should go away iirc
[06:25] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, I installed guarddog recently but unistalled it could it be that thats the problem it left behind closed doors?
[06:25] <Puddle>  irc.thundercity.net
[06:25] <nickrud> *spam
[06:25] <orbisvicis> holotone, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/65962
[06:25] <mjancaitis> nickrud: don't think I screwed with anything big like that, I messed with the cube zoom and whatnot
[06:26] <nickrud> mjancaitis, compiz & emerald? Then I have no comments, haven't used them nearly enough
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> mjancaitis: did my suggestion work?
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> (This happens to me on occasion)
[06:26] <Ryuho> how fast are fresh ubuntus suppose to start up
[06:26] <mjancaitis> Megaqwerty: no, just did it: minimize and then unminimize, then brought up a terminal again, no dice
[06:26] <mojo> Anyone know how i can force my dvd-r to eject?  sudo eject /dev/hdc is not working...  "I/O Error"... but it was working fine a few minutes ago... :(
[06:26] <mjancaitis> I've even rebooted
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> mjancaitis: no idea then.
[06:26] <mjancaitis> nickrud: it's not technically compiz, it's beryl
[06:27] <mjancaitis> But I get it
[06:27] <nickrud> mjancaitis, used that one even less, since my ati card froze whenever I tried to log out to gdm
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> mojo: are you sure hdc is your dvd drive? o.0
[06:27] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, i really dont understand. sudo iptables -F should work? if not, reboot
[06:27] <mojo> Megaqwerty: yeah
[06:27] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, i ran dhclient eth1 and it found the dhcp and assienged me a ip no problem
[06:27] <marty_> Ryuho mine starting in ~80 seconds, fresh from dell.
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> mojo: sounds like a hard drive to me...strange
[06:27] <Ryuho> meh
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> mojo...try unmounting it, and the running mount -a
[06:28] <mojo> Megaqwerty: IDE DVDR/CDR
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> mojo:  that might work
[06:28] <MilitantPotato> How do I tell what version of ATI display driver I have installed. I'm on Ubuntu feisty
[06:28] <z0rz> Anyone have a recomendation for a good terminal replacement (aside xtemr)?
[06:28] <Ryuho> marty_ thanks for the answer
[06:28] <ckin2001> z0rz - konsole
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: zsh?
[06:28] <nickrud> Kasuko, ]  DROPPED IN=eth1 OUT=Mac=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:etc SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=78 etc etc <-- this is definitely an iptables message; try sudo iptables -F see if that helps
[06:28] <mojo> Megaqwerty: /dev/hdc not mounted
[06:28] <bullgard4> What log has in Ubuntu 7.04 taken over the role of /var/log/boot.msg which can be found in other Linux distributions?
[06:28] <z0rz> ckin2001: I forgot to add that to the "aside" list
[06:28] <mojo> Megaqwerty: hmph!  weird, no?
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: or do you mean the emulator itself?
[06:29] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: I want to emulator itself
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: gnome-terminal is pretty good if that's what you mean
[06:29] <z0rz> I want the emulator*
[06:29] <orbisvicis> Kasuko, try rebooting after sudo iptables -F. dhclient might not mean anything. it might assign a static ip address if not connected. or iptables might allow internet
[06:29] <orbisvicis> *dhcp
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> mojo: indeed it is. try the mount -a
[06:29] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Do you know how to enable meta keys in gnome-terminal?
[06:29] <marty_> z0rz GNOME terminal seems fine, bash seems fine. Anything more specific you'd like to ask?
[06:29] <orbisvicis> holotone, fix included in that link
[06:29] <tarelerulz> anyone use Deluge and have it where they could not get web pages
[06:29] <mojo> Megaqwerty: did try; no joy
[06:30] <z0rz> marty_: Yeah.. refer to my meta key question ^^
[06:30] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: hmm...haven't ever needed to...but I would guess it would either be done in Edit>Profiles, or it would be done in the .bashrc
[06:30] <mojo> Megaqwerty: i am tempted to do the dreaded reboot :-/
[06:30] <Megaqwerty> mojo: yeah...try mounting the drive manually first.
[06:30] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: I'm pretty sure it'd be in the terminal preferences.. but I can't find anything in profiles
[06:30] <Megaqwerty> mojo: just out of curiosity.
[06:30] <orbisvicis> holotone, also try reloading/unloading acpi/apm
[06:30] <marty_> z0rz try edit>Keyboard Shortcuts ;-)
[06:31] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: actually...I think irssi is the problem, not your emulator.
[06:31] <z0rz> Marty_ I don't see any option for meta keys.. (specifically the Alt key in combination with the arrow keys)
[06:31] <marty_> z0rz what do you want to accomplish?
[06:31] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: In irssi they said it was gnome-terminal not sending the meta key correctly .. plus I don't have any problem with putty.. or Mac OS X terminal, once I enable meta keys
[06:32] <Megaqwerty> z0rz: oh, then yeah, I'd try out konsole.
[06:32] <z0rz> marty_: When I press Alt+Left or Alt+Right to change between chans it says "3D" and "3C" instead of changing to different chans .. What do I need to change in Ubuntu's terminal to fix this?
[06:32] <z0rz> Megaqwerty: Meh.. I'd perfer a gnome program.. I haven't had to use a KDE program yet ;D
[06:32] <Kasuko> orbisvicis, i did sudo iptables -F and it went back to commandline so I did sudo iptables -F -v to make sure and it said it flushed everything. I rebooted and nothing. All i did was fol,low this post to get azureus to work