[00:00] <katmagic> Terabyte: The sed invocation uses a regular expression to remove $BAD_GROUP.
[00:00] <katmagic> And then to join the groups with commas.
[00:00] <katmagic> You can do the same thing manually.
[00:00] <ebec1983> leeeeroy, one doesn't identify
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> intrader: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2      Thanks
[00:01] <archie> chgroup
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> intrader: can probably clean some old kernels out and get a tonne of space back
[00:01] <intrader> ActionParsnip, give me a minute
[00:01] <katmagic> If you haven't changed which groups $USER is in, running `sudo usermod -G '' $USER` will work.
[00:01] <xarth> BernardV, i could, but i want to compile gcc without package. It ' s more to learn than to use.
[00:01] <katmagic> g2g
[00:01] <mu3en> intrader, i guess you could symlink some folders onto the other disk also?
[00:02] <niftylettuce> because icing on gedit tastes so much better @ https://github.com/niftylettuce/gedit-icing
[00:02] <leeeroooy_j> ebec1983: I'm not too sure but so far i only found someone who solved this going on nvidia-settings  perhaps you want to have a brief look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052572 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794803
[00:02] <mu3en> intrader, for example move /var/cache/apt/archives to the other drive and ln -s it back
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> intrader: you can also run:  sudo apt-get clean   to claw back a tonne of space
[00:03] <chad_____> ActionParsnip: That didn't work
[00:04] <leeeroooy_j> ebec1983: are you on a laptop by any chance?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> intrader: I also recommend you install bleachbit and run it with gksudo to clean a lot of space, close as many apps as possible and watch settings as well as avoid commands stating they will take a long time
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> chad_____: did you log off and on?
[00:04] <chad_____> Yes
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> chad_____: any reply in #xubuntu ?
[00:05] <chad_____> ActionParsnip: No
[00:05] <josh__> Dude!! This OS is amazing!!!!
[00:05] <josh__> why don't we all proselytize for Linux ???
[00:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/634639/
[00:06] <mu3en> we do josh_ but the dark side is strong with the empire.
[00:06] <tylerCanada> any idea how I can set up two monitors with different resolutions so that each runs in its own native resolution but applications don't get 'lost' above where the smaller resolution monitor can see?
[00:06] <intrader> mu3en, what do you mean link it back - how would that give me more space?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> intrader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/634640/
[00:07] <josh__> lol mu3en
[00:07] <josh__> true, that is
[00:07] <mu3en> intrader: you move actual data somewhere else and then make a symlink
[00:07] <vlt> chad_____:
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> josh__: you'll look like a fanboy most likely :)
[00:07] <vlt> chad_____: (sorry)
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> josh__: you can certainly spread the word, just do it tastefully
[00:08] <chad_____> vlt: It's okay
[00:08] <josh__> ahh sure
[00:08] <josh__> i was telling my bosses about it earlier today
[00:08] <mu3en> intrader, rather than having a separate /var or /opt or whatever partition, you just have a separate partition containing those folders and link them onto the root partition
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> intrader: you have a lot of surplus kernels which all take space
[00:08] <intrader> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get clean does nothing
[00:09] <josh__> i want to try to convince them to convert to linux to save on software licensing costs :D
[00:10] <vlt> josh__: convert from where?
[00:10] <mu3en> ActionParsnip, is there a better way for intrader to remove those kernels than simply going into synaptics and searching for linux-##.##-##
[00:10] <josh__> convert from microsoft
[00:10] <josh__> and adobe
[00:10] <josh__> and all those expensive office programs
[00:10] <mu3en> josh_ the problem always being that it usually makes generations of decisions within a company look totally stupid. kinda like the war on drugs really.
[00:11] <IdleOne> josh__: This channel is for support discussion only if you wish to chat about Ubuntu and linux in general you can join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:11] <josh__> ahh i did not know that idleone :O thanks though
[00:11] <themrwilliams> It seems like upstart isn't invoking mysql with any parameters, leading to my config file not being read, etc. Is this a known "issue" w/ 11.04 and mysql/upstart? It seems like a really stupid default behavior.
[00:12] <intrader> mu3en, I will study that approach
[00:13] <ZeZu> i'm on current 11.04?  and after putting an ati card in the other day,  i boot into the desktop and something is wrong w/ the video ... dirty items not getting cleared, fresh items only partially displayed etc.  So I reinstalled nvidia-current and reboot,  no luck,  reran nvidia-xconfig, no luck ...  anyone have ideas on how to fix other than reinstall
[00:18] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I am running Bleachbit, and what is available is a Preview and a Delete button. Preview is taking its time
[00:18] <Starminn> If I made something with Linux Multimedia Studio, used it freely and openly, what restrictions would I have to follow?
[00:20] <jxhn> is there a standard fix for the 11.04 keyring login issue?
[00:20] <jxhn> Keyring prompting for password multiple times at startup
[00:22] <ubuntu12321> how to change the color of unity lateral menu? even with clearlooks it is black
[00:24] <sonota> My HP Probook 4430s laptop doesn't resume on lid open.  I'm using 11.04, but another laptop that I've used does.  Is there any way I can make my laptop resume on lid open?
[00:24] <ubuntu12321> i mean, the menu with open applications
[00:25] <a111> I need to split a text file into files of 10000 lines, what shall i use?
[00:25] <ubuntu12321> i changed the theme to clearlooks but it didn't followed my theme choice
[00:26] <stew> a111: man split
[00:27] <a111> I tried split, but it put spaces between each character
[00:27] <ubuntu12321> a111: maybe awk?
[00:27] <robin0800> ubuntu12321: think only radiance and ambiance work with unity not sure thou
[00:27] <neodemi_sleep> does anyone know of a way to fix the "filename too long" errors that occur when downloading torrents with foreign characters to an ext4 drive
[00:28] <neodemi_sleep> it occurs on rtorrent, deluge, and transmission
[00:28] <stew> a111: that's quite an exotic bug.  it certainly doesn't do that here
[00:28] <ubuntu12321> robin0800: i wonder why clearlooks was shipped then
[00:28] <robin0800> ubuntu12321: perhaps for classic
[00:29] <neodemi_sleep> i know the torrents are good because i have previously downloaded them on this machine when it was running 8.04/ext2
[00:29] <neodemi_sleep> also google says nothing useful, just lots of people asking the same question with no answer yet
[00:29] <PythonSnake> anyone know a good torrent downloader ?
[00:30] <neodemi_sleep> other than "use a different partition type"
[00:30] <sudokill> PythonSnake, transmission
[00:30] <PythonSnake> is Deluge better than transmission ?
[00:31] <sudokill> not in my opinion
[00:31] <ohzie> neodemi_sleep: It's an unfortunate bug that's unfixed. "Use a different partition type" is probably the best fix anyone knows about right now. :(
[00:31] <ubuntu12321> ok radiance with clearlooks window border worked. but it places the window buttons at the left, still. any way to change this configuring radiance?
[00:31] <sudokill> they all do the same thing just different guis basically
[00:31] <ohzie> neodemi_sleep: I'm still using ext2 /boot and ext3 /
[00:31] <sudokill> transmissions has a very clean gui
[00:31] <ohzie> sudokill: Transmission also has a fantastic API for a web interface. :3
[00:31] <PythonSnake> how to get torrents with terminal ?
[00:32] <sudokill> rtorrent
[00:32] <neodemi_sleep> ugh, looks like ill have to reinstall to change partition type then
[00:32] <PythonSnake> :3
[00:32] <neodemi_sleep> i was hoping to avoid that
[00:32] <sudokill> PythonSnake, i use rtorrent
[00:32] <sonota> neodemi_sleep:  Or just make a new partition?
[00:32] <vlt> neodemi_sleep: usually you don
[00:32] <marck_> who was i talking to
[00:32] <vlt> neodemi_sleep: usually you don't need to.
[00:32] <vlt> neodemi_sleep: What are you trying to do?
[00:33] <linuxuz3r> hi PythonSnake
[00:33] <PythonSnake> hi linuxuz3r
[00:33] <robin0800> ubuntu12321: you can move window buttons but not the unity panel ones
[00:33] <neodemi_sleep> derp, i suppose i could break up the nice contiguous space i have into smaller chunks
[00:33] <PythonSnake> marck_ : me
[00:33] <ubuntu12321> robin0800: the buttons at window title
[00:34] <ubuntu12321> ?  how?
[00:34] <PythonSnake> marck: please see my pm
[00:34] <robin0800> ubuntu12321: ubuntu-tweak which is unsupported
[00:34] <jdevel> anyone use VMware and familiar with it a fair amount?
[00:36] <Strav> He. I'm trying to find the right bug in launchpad for compiz window decoration crash in 11.04, anyone have an idea?
[00:37] <ohzie> Installation has been stuck at "Creating config file /etc/papersize with new version" for 16 minutes now. :( Any ideas, guys?
[00:37] <neodemi_sleep> i think ill reinstall again, theres nothing on this machine, and i dont like having a filesystem that doesnt like files i know are good
[00:37] <neodemi_sleep> switch everything back to ext2/ext3
[00:37] <ohzie> neodemi_sleep: Yessir, EXT3 ftw
[00:37] <Strav> (I should precise: the window decoration seems to "randomly" disappear.
[00:37] <neodemi_sleep> if it breaks on japanese characters, what else could it break on that i might actually need
[00:38] <herrcykel> hey
[00:38] <ohzie> Strav: 772222 has a fix attached to it.
[00:38] <Strav> god I hope 11.10 is gonna put some emphasis on bug fixes, otherwise I switch to arch.
[00:38] <Strav> ohzie: thanks :)
[00:38] <ohzie> Strav: It might be the one you need.
[00:38] <ohzie> Strav: I have personal problems with Arch. XD
[00:40] <Strav> ohzie: I'm not an arch advocate, but from what I read, it looks like a good way to get some cutting edge packages while maintaining a stability that's very rare in ubuntu theses days. Seems like every release is just for the fun of deprecating stuff.
[00:40] <galamar> hello where is the best place to ask wget questions?
[00:40] <Saik> anyone know freh that won't mind translating something for me?
[00:40] <Saik> french*
[00:41] <Strav> ohzie: anyhow, might I ask why you've got problems with arch?
[00:41] <sudokill> Strav arch is completely different to ubuntu
[00:41] <galamar> google knows french
[00:41] <Auriga> Saik, Check google translate.
[00:41] <Strav> sudokill: yea I know that.
[00:41] <Saik> I did, the translation it gives me is crappy
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> intrader: preview shows you what will be deleted
[00:41] <galamar> saik, it can provide alternate translations aswell
[00:41] <sudokill> why would you "switch" to arch from ubuntu because of bugs?
[00:41] <Strav> sudokill: one thing, as a developper, I clearly subscribe to their mantra.
[00:42] <Saik> galamar: I use freetranslation.com and it provides 2 or 3
[00:43] <galamar> saik, I just know google will show alternate translations if you hover your mouse above the translated section.
[00:43] <vlt> neodemi_sleep: Just create a new partition, format it ext3, move everything from old to new, edit fstab, done. A live cd makes it even easier.
[00:43] <Saik> galamar: yea, I do too, it's just a senence though
[00:43] <Saik> sentence*
[00:44] <sudokill> i know its experimental but does anyone use chromium with --use-spdy ?
[00:44] <galamar> Saik, what do you need translated? - Message me.
[00:44] <neodemi_sleep> vlt, cold i completely remove the ext4 partition doing that without having to reinstall
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: not heard of that but I use the daily build ppa
[00:45] <sudokill> ActionParsnip, spdy is why the google sites load so fast in chromium / chrome its http replacement
[00:45] <ubuntu12321> MPEG Layer-3 audio decoding technology licensed from Fraunhofer IIS and Thomson. This product cannot be installed in product other than Personal Computers sold for general purpose usage, and not for set-top boxes, embedded PCs, PCs which are sold and customized for mainly audio or multimedia playback and/or registration, unless the seller has received a license by Fraunhofer IIS and Thomson and paid the relevant royalties to them.
[00:45] <sudokill> ActionParsnip, i want to use it for all sites not just google ones
[00:45] <sudokill> btut it segfaults with it on
[00:45] <ubuntu12321> can't i just install libmad?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: they load fast because I have a caching proxy :D
[00:46] <sudokill> so do i, but still its supposed to make almost all sites load 50% faster
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: all I can suggest is try it, see how it goes. It is reversible
[00:46] <vlt> neodemi_sleep: of course you can
[00:46] <ubuntu12321> mp3 is well supported by free software. and i live in a country where software patents aren't valid. how to install mp3 support other than this one offered by ubuntu?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: also run a local dns on your system, makes dns take 0ms
[00:47] <frank_> ubuntu12321: where do you live? I want to immigrate!
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu12321: mp3 is not free (as in speech)
[00:47] <ubuntu12321> frank_: brazil
[00:47] <sudokill> ActionParsnip, im ok i used to have local dns i just use googles now
[00:47] <frank_> ubuntu12321: nice one
[00:47] <frank_> ActionParsnip: Im quite aware of that
[00:47] <sudokill> ActionParsnip, i dont have  aproblem, at all with speed, i just want it faster lol
[00:47] <ubuntu12321> ActionParsnip: it is patent-encumbered, but there is free software that plays mp3
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu12321: sudo apt-get -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:48] <frank_> ubuntu12321: I envy you.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu12321: maybe but the mp3 decoder is not
[00:48] <sarkis> hey guys does ubuntu even need a xorg.conf in 11.04? I think I saved changed with nvidia xorg settings and everytime i start up ubuntu it complains the monitors are not set properly
[00:48] <bazhang> ubuntu12321, install the ubuntu-restricte-extras package
[00:48] <bazhang> err restricted ubuntu12321
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: it doesn't ship with one, but if you use video chips like sis or intel you may need one
[00:48] <frank_> ubuntu12321: google.com/?q=medibuntu
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: I need an xorg.conf for my media system as the display never sets right so I use the file to force settings
[00:49] <sarkis> ActionParsnip: if i rename/move my xorg.conf it won't freak out?
[00:49] <JAQK-JOKER> Which is a good internet browser, "Firefox" of "Google Crome"?
[00:49] <ubuntu12321> but will it install the free software mp3 decoder bazhang?
[00:49] <sudokill> sarkis, u can always move it back
[00:49] <dwarder> could memory upgrade cause "top" to behave weirdly
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: no, it will be fine. Its only when the xorg starts
[00:49] <Jeruvy> !poll | JAQK-JOKER
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> JAQK-JOKER: both are good
[00:50] <sarkis> hmm
[00:50] <sudokill> people are losing interest in FF these days...
[00:50] <JAQK-JOKER> Thank You
[00:50] <lloowen> Hello all! Just changed the port number for my ssh server on my Ubuntu. After restarting my ssh server I had to run the command ssh-keygen -R <IP_ADDRESS>:123 but this does not work :-| Have I got the syntax wrong?
[00:50] <sarkis> also on my additional drivers, i have the proprietary nvidia drivers says its being used but not active?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: i lost interest ages ago
[00:50] <sudokill> :)
[00:50] <SKoua> JAQK-JOKER I prefer FF but Chrome is getting interest because it's fast
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> arora is sweet too
[00:51] <sudokill> if only chromium had autoscrolling on linux...... i mean come on
[00:51] <xarth> see you
[00:51] <Jeremy3D> how do i get rid of a hotkey in 11.04?  looked in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts but the hotkey i'm looking for isnt there
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: what does the key do?
[00:52] <Jeremy3D> ctrl alt num 0 : maximizes window
[00:52] <Saik2> stupid network..
[00:52] <marck> ok
[00:52] <niftylettuce> sry 4 link earlier, connection dropped while I was attempting to PM
[00:52] <sudokill> Jeremy3D, do u accidentally press that or something? lol
[00:52] <marck> who was it again
[00:52] <Jeremy3D> it's a hotkey for Blender though and would rather use that
[00:53] <sudokill> ah
[00:53] <PythonSnake> me
[00:53] <PythonSnake> marck: me
[00:53] <Jeremy3D> but when i look in shortcut key list in preferences i dont see that
[00:53] <sudokill> if blender is maximised doesnt that take prescedence>
[00:53] <Strav> ohzie: sorry to say this but I cannot see the attached fix to 772222 in launchpad?
[00:54] <mehwork> to make /home its own partition, i make / the 'primary' partition and /home the 'logical' partition right?
[00:54] <JAQK-JOKER> Does anyone have "linksys
[00:54] <Jeremy3D> blender is already maximized but the shortcut isn't doing anything and i know its set.  i think ubuntu might be stopping it
[00:54] <sudokill> JAQK-JOKER, linksys router?
[00:54] <sudokill> yes i do
[00:54] <JAQK-JOKER> 'Yes
[00:54] <sudokill> lots of people do lol
[00:54] <ubuntu12321> ... my issue is: can't i install libmad, in a way that programs would be able to play mp3 without fluendo? libmad has no patent issue in my country
[00:55] <Strav> ohzie: I'm up-to-date so I guess it hasn't been pushed in the main repositories already. Every attachment to the bug in question are either .txt files or screenshots. Honestly I don't quite know where to look for that fix.
[00:55] <ubuntu12321> or some programs would play mp3 only with fluendo? (why can't ubuntu offer libmad, especially since it offered it in past?)
[00:55] <bazhang> libmad0, libmad0-dev, libmad-ocaml, libmad-ocaml-dev, libmadlib ubuntu12321
[00:56] <JAQK-JOKER> Should I use "linksys" instead of AT&T?
[00:56] <sudokill> ubuntu12321, i think the medibuntu ppa sorts all that out i maybe completely wrong
[00:56] <bazhang> JAQK-JOKER, ask in ##hardware thats offtopic here
[00:56] <sudokill> JAQK-JOKER, you're asking questions there is no answer to
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> !info libmad0
[00:57] <bazhang> ubuntu12321, install the ones I just showed you
[00:57] <ubuntu12321> bazhang: would it make, say, banshee play mp3s?
[00:57] <bazhang> ubuntu12321, try it and see
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> !codecs
[00:59] <niftylettuce> can anyone tackle this issue? https://github.com/niftylettuce/nifty-web-requests#gist4gedit
[01:00] <niftylettuce> rather, a gist4gedit
[01:01] <IdleOne> niftylettuce: How is that Ubuntu related?
[01:01] <niftylettuce> gedit is ubuntu/deb text editor
[01:02] <ubuntu12321> is there something for cycling between windows of the same program? i ask because at unity bar, related windows are grouped
[01:02] <niftylettuce> o_O there is a gedit channel, wowza
[01:02] <niftylettuce> IdleOne: :) ill post it there, ty
[01:02] <robin0800> niftylettuce: don't think so its gnome ?
[01:02] <ubuntu12321> (at mac one can click alt+' to solve this)
[01:03] <niftylettuce> robin0800: gnome2
[01:03] <IdleOne> ubuntu12321: try alt+tab
[01:03] <sudokill> ubuntu12321, i dont think there is..
[01:03] <moses> how do you change the account password
[01:04] <chaddy>  thought there was something in ccsm, ubuntu12321
[01:04] <sudokill> moses passwd
[01:04] <Terabyte> is it possible to run a program as a particular user, where that particular user is permissioned but you are not. (not talking about admin privilages here). I want to permission a file to be only executed by 1 user, but i want to allow another user to 'puppet' as that permissioned user and execute the file. can this be done?
[01:04] <chaddy> various switchers in that, give them a try
[01:04] <sudokill> moses e.g. passwd moses
[01:04] <ubuntu12321> how to not join related windows at the left bar?
[01:04] <moses> i mean in ubuntu
[01:04] <bazhang> Terabyte, what app needs that to run?
[01:04] <Terabyte> ?
[01:05] <Terabyte> woops wrong channel
[01:05] <bazhang> moses, yes ubuntu
[01:05] <moses> my sudo password correct?
[01:05] <moses> ok
[01:05] <ubuntu12321> moses: system settings, about me, change password
[01:05] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword moses
[01:05] <ubuntu12321> or sudo passwd your-username
[01:05] <sudokill> Terabyte, maybe su
[01:05] <sudokill> to run it
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> moses: if not you can always boot to root recovery mode and run:  passwd user     replace user with your actual username
[01:07] <ohzie> Strav: I'm sorry. :(
[01:08] <ohzie> Strav: My problems with Arch are the packages being unsigned and the fact that I actually use my computer for work. I don't have time to configure gdm from scratch and go find my drivers because they don't bother to try to detect them.
[01:08] <ohzie> This is 2011. If ubuntu can do it, Arch should be able to do it. IMO.
[01:09] <ohzie> Though I do like the one arch server I have.
[01:09] <ohzie> bsd init is quite fancy.
[01:09] <sudokill> geez arch is all about configuring... to ur needs
[01:09] <jeff__> hi guys..
[01:09] <szal> and most of all, Arch is off-topic here ;)
[01:09] <ohzie> sudokill: and it fits for my server. It doesn't fit for my desktop. XD
[01:09] <sudokill> distros like mint are about not having to worry about any of that
[01:10] <szal> same for Mint
[01:11] <philipballew> if i am connected to the internet wirelessely. can i share my internet if i hook up a router to my laptop?
[01:12] <ohzie> philipballew: Yes, but it'll require a lot of manually configuring your routing.
[01:12] <ohzie> philipballew: Are complicated things 'fun' or 'difficult and annoying' to you?
[01:12] <ohzie> !routing
[01:12] <jeff__> hi guys
[01:13] <chaddy> HI jeff__
[01:13] <ohzie> philipballew: I suggest you look on the linux documentation project for 'internet connection sharing'
[01:14] <bazhang> !ics | philipballew
[01:14] <jeff__> when i run pppoeconf from with my modem connected, it seems like my cable is unppluged, but i`m online... although, i cannot connect if i use an rounter (due to unpplugged issue...
[01:15] <jeff__> please :/ does anybody have this issue?
[01:15] <jeff__> it seems like the cable is unplugged. but it's there :/
[01:15] <sudokill> what do u mean? it shows the cables disconnected or something?
[01:16] <sudokill> but it works?
[01:16] <jeff__> it works
[01:16] <jeff__> creepy
[01:16] <Berto> Hi - is there a way to go directly from 10.04 to 11.04?
[01:16] <sudokill> nothing to do with ur connection then
[01:16] <jeff__> well, i'm connected right now
[01:16] <sudokill> maybe some network manager thing
[01:16] <iceroot> Berto: not a supported one
[01:16] <robin0800> jeff__: you could try gnomeppp which uses wvdial
[01:16] <sudokill> icon or something
[01:16] <szal> Berto: yes, reinstall
[01:16] <sudokill> Berto, the update manager does it
[01:16] <jeff__> well, connecting is not my problem
[01:17] <mscott> so i have a usb block device that i want to send and receive data from but it doesnt mount automatically im reading the mount man pages but do i want a named pipe instead? any help would be appreciated
[01:17] <Berto> Hmm, guess i'll stay on 10.04... not worth my time for two upgrades.  double the risk of garbage happening :(
[01:17] <galamar> how do I wget multiple files with one command? (wget http://www.web.com/pics/4290). Idea being to grab all pics from 1-5000 in a given url? I need to know how the express ranges.
[01:17] <Berto> sudokill, the update manager wants to go to 10.10 first
[01:17] <jeff__> here it is : i have a LG modem, and a d-link router
[01:17] <iceroot> Berto: never touch a running system
[01:17] <iceroot> Berto: there is a way to go directly to 11.04 but not with update-manager but that is not a supported way
[01:17] <sudokill> Berto, yea or stay on 10.10 if ur happy with it
[01:17] <jeff__> i need to use the router... but since i ran pppoeconf, it doesn't reconise when i plug the cable anymore...
[01:18] <sudokill> unless ur dying to use unity
[01:18] <intrader> mu3en, the disk utility show me a partition after NTFS of 18GB (reiserfs), then an extended partition with 1.3 Swap, 8.8 GB reiserfs (not mounted), 9.0 GB mounded as /root, 6GB mounded as /home, and 4.gb as /usr
[01:18] <jeff__> but if i plug again directly to my LG modem and run it, i'm surfing arround the web again
[01:18] <Berto> I'd like a newer version of Xorg is really what I want out of 11.04
[01:18] <Berto> Maybe there's a fresher repository for 10.04?
[01:19] <iceroot> Berto: not an official one
[01:19] <sudokill> Berto, ud be bettter off reinstalling and saving ur config files
[01:19] <iceroot> Berto: within an ubuntu-release you will only get security updates, not major updates for packages
[01:19] <Berto> right.  Thanks guys!
[01:20] <jeff__> any ideas?
[01:20] <iceroot> Berto: you can have a look at the backports but i cant imaging there is a newer x-server for 10.04
[01:20] <sudokill> jeff__, maybe the settings in ur router?
[01:20] <jeff__> both, my notebook and my desktop
[01:20] <jeff__> nope, it can't be
[01:20] <Berto> iceroot, yeah cool.  I just have a few weird issues occasionally
[01:21] <iceroot> Berto: can you explain the problems with the x-server?
[01:21] <sudokill> Berto, they can probably be sorted
[01:21] <Berto> iceroot, I'd like to change my resolution from 1920x1080 to 1680x1050 on my two monitors.  Nvidia driver doesn't listen
[01:22] <iceroot> Berto: tried with xrandr?
[01:22] <sudokill> Berto, is 1920 not ur native res then?
[01:22] <szal> Berto: unless that's a CRT, that's pretty pointless, since everything that's not the native resolution looks like cr*p on a flat screen
[01:22] <smw> Is it possible to use a directory of deb files as an apt-repo?
[01:22] <Berto> sudokill, 1920 is native.  I think it's giving me headaches
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Berto: run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    then set the resolutions to something, then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and set the resolutions in the file manually
[01:23] <Berto> Oh i see
[01:23] <iceroot> Berto: yes and why change to 1680? if 1920 is the resolution from your monitors you cant change them (without a strange result)
[01:23] <sudokill> Berto, anything but native will give u more headaches it will look blurry
[01:23] <Berto> hahhaa
[01:23] <Berto> ok well thanks!
[01:23] <surskitty> Every once in a while, the sound goes all tinny on my netbook.  Restarting pulseaudio fixes it temporarily, but I'd rather it not happen.  What should I do?  I'm still using 10.10, btw.
[01:23] <iceroot> Berto: also, that is not an x-server issue
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> smw: you can use aptoncd and make a CD based repo (or just mount the ISO). You can manually install deb files with:  sudo dpkg -i *
[01:24] <szal> Berto: and if viewing a monitor gives you headaches, you should rather think about increasing font size and/or seeing an ophthalmologist to check your eyes
[01:24] <spasysheep> can anyone here help me with making my custom ISO bootable?
[01:25] <iceroot> szal: yes, you just have to create the packages-file for it and then it is a normal repository. you can create the packages-file with apt-ftparchive
[01:25] <iceroot> smw: yes, you just have to create the packages-file for it and then it is a normal repository. you can create the packages-file with apt-ftparchive
[01:25] <szal> iceroot: ?
[01:25] <iceroot> szal: sorry, wrong nick
[01:25] <yokobr> well, i've plugged my brothers notebook and seems ok
[01:25] <smw> iceroot, thanks
[01:25] <iceroot> !remaster | spasysheep
[01:25] <yokobr> still, ubuntu doesn't reconize anymore when i plug network cable
[01:26] <Hilikus> hey guys
[01:26] <sudokill> hi
[01:26] <spasysheep> iceroot: ive got all the files sorted out, I'm trying to use mkisofs to compile the ISO and it's not working properly
[01:27] <Hilikus> hey guys. is it possible to "burn" several cd ISOs into a hard drive and create a menu a la grub that asks me which one to boot?
[01:27] <yokobr> please... does anybody knows why my ubuntu doesn't reconize when i plug my network cable since i ran pppoeconf??
[01:27] <Terabyte> what are groups dialout adm cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare?
[01:28] <spasysheep> Hilikus: yes
[01:29] <minimee> is there any way to get the proprietary nvidia geforce go 7300 drivers to work?
[01:30] <iceroot> spasysheep: that is not the correct way
[01:30] <Hilikus> spasysheep, perfect, thank you
[01:30] <mu3en> intrader, not sure i understood the question on your layout. looks like you have 18gb reiserfs and 8gb resierfs that are not used? either way if your 6gb and 8gb /home and / partitions are full, the approach might be to mount the 8gb reiserfs (maybe foramtted to match the other filesystems) (and add it to your /etc/fstab so it mounts at startup) then copy a home folder off /home or a large folder off / to the 8gb drive, then symlink (ln -s) that
[01:30] <mu3en> folder where it was originally.
[01:31] <spasysheep> iceroot: what do you mean, 'correct way'?
[01:31] <deww> minimee: pretty sure it works, but i'm not using the latest version of ubuntu. stil on 10.10
[01:31] <iceroot> spasysheep: i am looking at my script to build custom-cds and there is a lot more then just mkisofs
[01:31] <iceroot> spasysheep: apt-ftparchive, grub-stuff and so on
[01:31] <minimee> deww
[01:31] <minimee> deww excellent
[01:31] <spasysheep> Hilikus: you should be able to use dd to turn the ISOs into partitions on the disk, then install grub
[01:31] <iceroot> spasysheep: best way is to use the link from ubottu about remastering
[01:31] <minimee> deww is there a way to downgrade?
[01:32] <minimee> i have 11.04
[01:32] <iceroot> minimee: no
[01:32] <Hilikus> spasysheep, just dd the iso? no mounting or extracting or anything??
[01:32] <iceroot> minimee: if you mean to downgrade to a lower ubuntu-version like 10.10
[01:32] <minimee> yes i do
[01:32] <minimee> that's what i mena
[01:32] <minimee> mean
[01:32] <iceroot> minimee: not possible
[01:32] <deww> man that's a good thing i didn't upgrade. just reearching that issue
[01:33] <spasysheep> iceroot: I did a very minimal edit of an existing livecd, and everything I've read tells me that I should be able to mkisofs it into an ISO again, but I can't get the syntax right because I don't understand how livecds work
[01:33] <minimee> deww yeah its really a mess
[01:33] <spasysheep> Hilikus: I think so, but don't blame me if you accidentally all your data
[01:33] <intrader> mu3en, I don'y quite understand the linking part, please explain
[01:33] <iceroot> spasysheep: ah ok so you are remastering an existing iso instead of building a complete new cd
[01:33] <spasysheep> iceroot: yes
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> minimee: you will need t clean reinstall
[01:33] <iceroot> spasysheep: as i said, use the link from ubottu, its exactly what you are trying to do
[01:33] <yokobr> guys... it's not my router... when i plug on my brother's notebook it works...
[01:34] <minimee> ActionParsnip: is that the only way to get it to work with the geforcego7300?
[01:34] <yokobr> my ubuntu just stopped from seeing that my network cable is plugged
[01:34] <spasysheep> iceroot: I know, but the command syntax it gives is not quite right for me, and I need help figuring it out
[01:34] <iceroot> spasysheep: use pastebin to show what you tried and what the errors are
[01:35] <spasysheep> iceroot: ok, hang on. basically, I don't think I'm pointing it at the .img file for booting properly
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> minimee: if you install nvidia-current it will work
[01:36] <minimee> ActionParsnip: that does not work.
[01:36] <szal> minimee: define "does not work"
[01:37] <minimee> the driver doesnt work. it goes back to generic
[01:37] <mu3en> intrader, a symlinked folder or file is like a marker that points to a file or folder that is actually somewhere else
[01:37] <szal> minimee: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current && sudo nvidia-xconfig - then reboot
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> minimee: can you expand on that. Simply saying "It doesn't work" helps nobody, most of all you
[01:38] <minimee> ActionParsnip: i DID expand on it
[01:38] <minimee> it wont function defaults back to the generic driver
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> minimee: keeping stuff on one line makes things clearer
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> minimee: use nvidia-xconfig to generate an xorg.conf file, it should make the driver load
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> minimee: if not then you can run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log    and read the x server log to see what's going on
[01:39] <minimee> ActionParsnip: is there a site that describes how to do it?
[01:39] <minimee> ActionParsnip: take a look at my forum post. one second...
[01:39] <szal> minimee: how to do what?
[01:40] <nomada> Hi...
[01:40] <minimee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1791019
[01:40] <nomada> does anybody had ever tried Ubuntu 11.04 on a MacBookPro 8.2
[01:40] <stercor> How do I upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu?  "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade" didn't do the trick.
[01:40] <intrader> mu3en, In the 18 GB this a reiserfs /home wtih 9gb of free space, the 8.8 reiserfs has two folders /intrader and /interder.alt. I would like to not touch the 8.8; can I format the 18 to match my currently running system?
[01:41] <crazybrain> I am not able to adjust my screen to 1024*768 resolution as i could do in windows
[01:41] <crazybrain> ?
[01:41] <mu3en> intrader, so for example i move the folder from /var/cache/apt/archives to /media/bigdisk/archives/ then i go to /var/cache/apt and issue the command 'sudo ln -s /media/bigdisk/archives'. if you look in /var/cache/apt/, you will see afolder called archives, and you can go into it as usual, but, the folder is Actually at /media/bigdisk/archives
[01:41] <nomada> I have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-1 but wireless seems to not work...
[01:41] <xangua> !upgrade | stercor
[01:41] <szal> [02:37:54] <szal> minimee: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current && sudo nvidia-xconfig - then reboot
[01:41] <stercor> xangua: tHANKS!
[01:42] <minimee> szal: nvidia-current is already installed
[01:42] <sqiush102> raid-1: i have 2tb drive with 2 partitions and a LVM. I bought a 2nd 2tb drive now. Can I get raid1 going with no additional disk?
[01:42] <cpgo> how would I mount a windows partition where I could change the permissions of certain folder. Every time I try to change a folders owner it reverts back to root
[01:42] <szal> minimee: then run nvidia-xconfig & reboot
[01:42] <crazybrain> I am not able to adjust my screen to 1024*768 resolution as i could do in windows....I am using intel 945g integrated video card
[01:42] <mu3en> intrader, sorry i think i'm confused. maybe you could paste the result of sudo fdisk -l to pastebin for me?
[01:43] <OerHeks> minimee i run the 173 driver on nvidia 7025
[01:43] <spasysheep> iceroot: pastebin.com/CZ6xkLx the iso I'm remastering is an arch ISO, but noone on the arch cahnnel could help me so I came here. that command outputs an ISO fine, but it's not bootable
[01:43] <szal> OerHeks: the 173 is only for FX
[01:43] <OerHeks> minimee, i changed it in classic
[01:43] <mu3en> intrader, sorry seems like http://goo.gl/ixcN9 is the place to paste it
[01:44] <minimee> szal it says it's unable to locate that file
[01:44] <OerHeks> szal only fx, no go ?
[01:44] <szal> minimee: what file?
[01:44] <minimee> OerHeks: what is "classic"?
[01:45] <minimee> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:45] <OerHeks> minimee classic is the old gnome menu, not unity
[01:45] <minimee> OerHeks: i'ver tried classic. compiz doesnt work and flash videos are still choppy and flicker
[01:46] <mu3en> cpgo, if it's a fat32 partition, it cannot actually have permissions, you have to set those when you mount the drive, it is documented with examples in the ubuntu community documentation.
[01:46] <OerHeks> minimee that is due to the current driver, i guess
[01:46] <cpgo> mu3en, ntfs
[01:46] <minimee> OerHeks: i even tried the old driver (173)
[01:46] <szal> OerHeks: indeed, the Go 70xx series should run on -current
[01:46] <cpgo> mu3en, I mounted via /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 2
[01:47] <intrader> mu3en, linking is clearer. Here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/634686/
[01:47] <szal> minimee: perfectly OK, that msg, that's what it's supposed to do..  now did you reboot?
[01:47] <sqiush102> raid-1: i have 2tb drive with 2 partitions and a LVM. I bought a 2nd 2tb drive now. Can I get raid1 going with no additional disk?
[01:48] <mu3en> cpgo, i don't know for ntfs so it would be dangerous for me to say. i assume that you need some kind of gid uid in that command (but i think that's in the community docs too)
[01:48] <minimee> szal: should i activate the driver first (nvidia-current)
[01:48] <sje46> please tell me how to mount a filesystem so I dn't need root to access it?
[01:48] <szal> minimee: no, just reboot
[01:48] <sje46> Nautilus does it just fine.  but I wnt to do it via the command line
[01:48] <cyperbg> hi guys, is there a complete backup facility in Ubuntu 11.04. Something similar to Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage
[01:48] <spasysheep> cyperbg: dd
[01:48] <cyperbg> I want to make a mirror copy of my entire disk and save it on a USB flash drive
[01:49] <Jeruvy> !backup | cyperbg
[01:49] <mu3en> okay intrader, is /dev/sda7 the empty partition?
[01:49] <cyperbg> can you recommend the most user friendly, suitable for a linux newbie
[01:49] <spasysheep> cyperbg: dd is the simplest way if you just want to create a perfect 1:1 image, but it is also dangerous
[01:50] <spasysheep> cyperbg: I don't know about the others
[01:50] <cyperbg> spasysheep why is it dangerous?
[01:50] <maco> cyperbg: because one of the meanings of DD is Disk Destroyer
[01:50] <andregabriel> I have a drive (G: at windows) called HD NOVO (/media/HD\ NOVO at Ubuntu). The problem is that everytime I reboot my links to this media on ubuntu are lost. Then I have to go to the ubuntu explorer and click on the computer icon then double click on the hard drive. Only by doing this Ubuntu recognizes this hard drive (I have to it every reboot).  What can I do?
[01:50] <spasysheep> cyperbg: dd directly accesses the disk, and if you get the command wrong you can accidentally obliterate your data
[01:50] <maco> cyperbg: its very easy to screw up such that you write the blank backup drive over the drive you were intendng to backup
[01:50] <mu3en> cyperbg - get the command wrong and bye bye everything...
[01:51] <sqiush102> cyperbg: I used clonezilla to make an image
[01:51] <maco> cyperbg: i tend to use rsync on the command line, but one of the graphical tools is probably new-user-friendliest
[01:51] <Jeruvy> cyperbg: with great power comes great responsibility :)
[01:51] <andregabriel> any help?
[01:51] <cyperbg> sqiush102 I'll have a look at it, it sounds promising :)
[01:51] <maco> cyperbg: bacula maybe?
[01:51] <intrader> mu3en, sda2 has a /home that is empty, sda6 has two compies in reiserfs of some old /intrader home
[01:51] <mu3en> cyperbg: partimage seems to work good too
[01:52] <maco> cyperbg: sbackup-gtk?
[01:52] <cyperbg> maco, wow so many, it's even harder to know which one to choose
[01:52] <maco> cyperbg: well, the s in sbackup is "simple" so thats why i named that one
[01:52] <maco> cyperbg: but yes, there are like 20 tools at least for this
[01:53] <crazybrain> How to configure resolution of monitor to 1280*768 and i am using intel 945g
[01:53] <mu3en> intrader, so what you need is to choose a partition with lots of empty space and make sure you're mounting it permanently using /etc/fstab
[01:53] <maco> !resolution | crazybrain see the wiki page linked
[01:53] <cyperbg> maco I see sbackup in included in my installation, so I will have a look at it
[01:53] <mu3en> intrader, seems like you said there was an unmounted (and maybe empty) partition that you could use?
[01:53] <cyperbg> thanks you
[01:53] <spasysheep> iceroot?
[01:54] <andregabriel> anyone ? any help ?
[01:54] <robin0800> minimee: classic is gnome 2.x
[01:54] <jeff__> well... i see nobody can help me :(
[01:54] <steven_> hello
[01:54] <spasysheep> andregabriel: you need to make the drive mount on boot
[01:55] <spasysheep> !fstab | andregabriel
[01:55] <intrader> mu3en, the 18 has a large empty /home in reiserfs. As far as I know I could reformat that one as extd, then it get unclear what else to do
[01:55] <Terabyte> given that the root account is disabled, will this cron script work? : http://shapeshed.com/journal/auto_update_an_ubuntu_server_with_aptitude/
[01:56] <Hilikus> hey guys. is it possible to "burn" several cd ISOs into a hard drive and create a menu a la grub that asks me which one to boot from?
[01:56] <Terabyte> specifically the 2nd black box that moves it to cron
[01:57] <aeon-ltd> Hilikus: probably but why it seems kinda useless
[01:57] <spoon456gh> irc://chat.freenode.net/cad
[01:57] <Hilikus> aeon-ltd, do you know how?
[01:58] <mu3en> intrader: so, assuming you can format a nice partition into whatever you want (ext4), you then add it to your /etc/fstab (with a mount point such as /media/bigdisk), then you copy  one or more folders that are taking up space on the other drives. if you are sure those are copied properly, you can then delete the original folders and create a symlink in the same place that points to the folders on the new partition.
[01:58] <Hilikus> aeon-ltd, i know it is technically possible, but i don't know what its called tosearch for it
[01:58] <aeon-ltd> Hilikus: why?
[01:58] <jeff__> well, if anybody knows why my ubuntu doesn't reconize eth cable anymore, let me know :(
[01:58] <crazybrain> ubottu: the command you told giving an error warning: output VGA1 not found; ignoring
[01:59] <andregabriel> tks spasysheep and ubottu, my drive is mounted right now (as I have entered the ubuntu browser), how can I check the mounted command so I only copy & paste to the /etc/fstab ?
[01:59] <spasysheep> andregabriel: just run mount with no arguments will give you a list of currently mounted systems
[02:00] <monokrome> Does anyone know how to import music from iPhone?
[02:00] <mu3en> intrader: so for example, you copy the folder /var/cache/apt/archives to /media/bigdisk then you delete /var/cache/apt/archives and then finally you go to /var/cache/apt/ and issue the command 'sudo ln -s /media/bigdisk/archives' this way the folder appears to be in /var/cache/apt/ but is actually in /media/bigdisk
[02:00] <szal> OerHeks: the 173 has, according to its supported hw list, no support for GeForce Go cards, though it will run on up to GF9 and even some newer models
[02:00] <spasysheep> monokrome: there's a ritual. you'll need 5 red candles and a toad
[02:00] <OerHeks> thnx szal
[02:01] <andregabriel> tks spaysysheep, I got this line for the device: /dev/sdc5 on /media/HD NOVO type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions) can I just copy and paste everything to the last line at /etc/fstab ?
[02:01] <weefee> any way I can jam my wifi drivers into an ubuntu server iso?
[02:01] <spasysheep> umm, not quite
[02:01] <mu3en> intrader, and you can do this with any large folders except those that are really necessary to boot i think. that way you free more space on / or on /home partitions by moving the data somewhere else. make sense?
[02:02] <spasysheep> andregabriel: what file system is the HDD formatted with?
[02:02] <intrader> mu3en, I will copy your instrucciones and follow. Thanks so much.
[02:02] <andregabriel> I don't know how to answer you that question. Should I run a command for you ?
[02:03] <mu3en> weefee, there's a fair number of tutorials on creating custom ubuntu discs, you could load them up with whatever you feel like
[02:03] <spasysheep> andregabriel: Umm, I can't remember how you check the file system of a drive
[02:03] <solayagim> hello guys
[02:04] <mu3en> intrader, sure, but please be careful to understand where you are moving data to. and that you're not deleting anything important. and i hope i don't have to say make sure you have backups anyway!
[02:04] <mu3en> intrader, if you are not sure you can find out more about symlinking and the ln command. man ln can be helpful.
[02:04] <spasysheep> andregabriel: ok, I've worked it out. the next thing I say will be the line you need to add to /etc/fstab
[02:05] <andregabriel> tks spasysheep I will take a look here then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html if I can't find the answer I'll come back :) tk you!
[02:06] <mu3en> intrader, and the link andregabriel just gave for fstab will help you make sure the new partition is mounted via fstab if ever
[02:06] <spasysheep> andregabriel: /dev/sdc5       /media/HD\ NOVO      ntfs-3g     rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions     0 0
[02:07] <martian> I installed ubuntu desktop on a system that I have since decided to dedicate as a small server; is there a way to just remove all GUI components to leave the system akin to ubuntu server?
[02:09] <andregabriel> tks spasysheep I'll try that line and see what happens at my next reboot! thank you!
[02:10] <andregabriel> very much!
[02:10] <spasysheep> andregabriel: no problem
[02:10] <mu3en> martian: if you look on the left of this page you will see some "getting back to pure gnome" and so on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php probably those command could be edited to remove all the gnome or kde or whatever components
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> martian: remove the xorg package and it will strip out all the gui stuffs
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> martian: you can use server apps on the desktop without any issue
[02:12] <weefee> are there any core differences between desktop and server?
[02:13] <edbian> weefee: The server does not have a GUI, that is the biggest difference.
[02:13] <msav> is there a way to stop 11.04 from installing unity? I don't care much for the new interface
[02:13] <bazhang> weefee, the gui
[02:13] <bazhang> msav, no, just use classic
[02:13] <bazhang> !classic | msav
[02:14] <intrader> mu3en, always something goes wrong. In pasting from xchat to a new tomboy note, the tomboy notes is hung up. I have to reboot. Thanks for help
[02:15] <mu3en> pleasure intrader. hope you work it out
[02:15] <msav> thank you bazhang
[02:15] <spasysheep> does anyone here know the syntax of mkisofs well?
[02:15] <martian> ActionParsnip: Ahh of course, pull the weeds up by the root :)
[02:16] <mu3en> ActionParsnip. wow, do the dependencies for gnome.gtk all get zapped by removing xorg? that's an awesome approach if so, could have saved me a bunch a time more than once!
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, what are you trying to do?
[02:18] <spasysheep> ZykoticK9: I extracted a livecd ISO, edited a file, and now I want to rebuilt the files into a bootable ISO. The command I have makes an ISO, but it's not bootable
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, perhaps try something like "mkisofs -o image.iso -b images/boot.img -c boot.cat -R -J -T /my/file/tree"
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> mu3en: yes as they are xorg based, so pull out xorg and yell Jenga!
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, i've never used it to create bootable images before sorry, the above is just in my ISO notes.
[02:20] <spasysheep> ZycoticK9: what does the -c do?
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> !tab > spasysheep
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, i'm really not sure - i'm still working on installing it ;)
[02:21] <mu3en> ActionParsnip, beautiful, so in fact all that extra is unnecessary: something like 'apt-get remove xorg | apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' would switch you almost perfectly from gnome to kde (or vice-versa of course!
[02:21] <spasysheep> ZykoticK9: I typed Zyc and was wondering why tab-complete wasn't working >.<
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, thus, i have no man page - it's like i'm blind
[02:21] <afaty> Hello
[02:21] <spasysheep> ZykoticK9: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mkisofs
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> mu3en: well you'd need to reboot to unload the ap as its still in RAM
[02:22] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, what did you install to get mkisofs?
[02:22] <spasysheep> ZykoticK9: I don't know, when I started trying to do this it was already there. try iso-tools or something?
[02:22] <afaty> When I use evince opened the pdf file in gnome-terminal, the terminal putout "** (evince:9077): WARNING **: Unable to register window with path '/com/canonical/menu/5A00004': Timeout was reached". Anyone know that why?
[02:22] <mu3en> ActionParsnip, but hell, it's a lot cleaner than the alternative i suggested (and used in the past more than once)!
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, i was surprise it's not in dvd+rw-tools
[02:23] <mu3en> ActionParsnip: Jenga indeed! thanks for that.
[02:23] <spasysheep> ZykoticK9: packages.ubuntu.org says it's in genisoimage
[02:23] <weefee> I have ubuntu desktop installed on a small hard drive, there is also a 5 disk softraid array, if I replace the small drive (not part of the array) and put a fresh copy of ubuntu on it, will it detect the raid?
[02:24] <weefee> if ont, is there any way I can back up some settings to restore it just in case
[02:24] <weefee> if not*
[02:24] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, i already have that installed - sorry i can't help sorry.
[02:24] <robin0800> weefee: think you need the alternate cd for raid
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> mu3en: could make a VM and try it, see what happens
[02:25] <sarkis> hey guys is it a bad idea to install the nvidia drivers?
[02:25] <spasysheep> ZykoticK9: damn :(
[02:25] <weefee> is there any chance of the installation destroying the raid if I don't tell it to mess with those drives?
[02:25] <smw> how can I do a partial disto upgrade from the commandline?
[02:25] <sudokill> sarkis no
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: if you want them then install them
[02:25] <sarkis> sorry
[02:25] <sarkis> i meant from the nvidia site
[02:26] <sudokill> yes
[02:26] <sarkis> i downloaded the shell script that installs it
[02:26] <sudokill> its a bad idea
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: why bother the drivers are in the repos
[02:26] <sarkis> k
[02:26] <sarkis> ActionParsnip: i dont think so.. the ones in the ubuntu repos are outdated :/
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current | sarkis
[02:26] <sudokill> sarkis, they work though
[02:27] <sarkis> my GeForce GT 420
[02:27] <sarkis> seems that was added in the newer drivers that are only on the nvidia site?
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> spasysheep, mystery solved - Debian uses genisoimage instead.  Sorry I'm REALLY no help to you - good luck!
[02:27] <sudokill> sarkis, unless u need them for anything specific the standard drivers have less problems imo
[02:28] <mu3en> ActionParsnip: got an old server with an unused ubuntu/gnome install on a separate drive, so i'll just give it a go for real tomorrow! for now, i'm out...but a little wiser!
[02:28] <sarkis> need it for games..
[02:28] <sarkis> i guess i should wait
[02:28] <sudokill> nah install the ubuntu ones
[02:28] <sarkis> the current ones on ubuntu will catch up
[02:28] <sudokill> newer ones wont make anything faster i doubt
[02:28] <weefee> would there be any harm in using the server install cd then installing mdadm later, would it pick up the softraid that was created on another installation?
[02:28] <spasysheep> sarkis: i've always found installing the drivers through the 3rd party drivers app thing works fine
[02:28] <sarkis> sudokill: i installed the ones from ubuntu and i have a message in my additional drivers... it says it's installed but not being used?
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/27   shows how to get the 275 nvidia driver
[02:29] <sarkis> i cant do anything but remove
[02:29] <szal> sudokill: the 275 fixes a bug that has been on status 'undecided' for 2 months in Launchpad
[02:29] <sudokill> ok
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> sarkis, if your driver ARE working - ignore the message in additional drivers.  That's IF they are working.
[02:30] <sudokill> sarkis, have u rebooted ?
[02:30] <sudokill> stupid question
[02:31] <sarkis> yes
[02:31] <sarkis> ZykoticK9: i cant know for sure if they are working?
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> sarkis, open nvidia-settings it will tell you
[02:32] <ZykoticK9> sarkis, i have some more complicated methods to know if the kernel is using the driver or not, but nvidia-settings is MUCH easier
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   then restart X
[02:32] <sarkis> 48584 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9716.609 FPS
[02:32] <sarkis> glxgears -_-
[02:32] <sudokill> glxgears dont really tel u ...
[02:32] <sudokill> lol
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> sarkis, glxgears is a terrible non-benchmark - but with that FPS i'd say they are working!
[02:33] <jc319> Hi, I just did a default installation of lastest Ubuntu and everything works fine, I just want to copy current X11 config file, where can I find it? locate xorg.conf does not return anything and I can't seem to find it under /etc/X
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> sarkis: glxgears is a poor test
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> sarkis, my non-3d nvidia is currently "3342 frames in 5.0 seconds = 668.262 FPS"
[02:34] <sudokill> do glxinfo | grep render
[02:34] <sudokill> see if it says opengl yes
[02:34] <sudokill> i think that means ur using nvidia..
[02:34] <Newman_> How would I go transfering all my files and configurations from one laptop to another. Both have the same type of hardware more or less. They have the same onboard graphics card, same processor (i3) and same architecture (x86_64), not sure about the wireless card though
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Newman_: backup the hidden files in $HOME
[02:35] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, +1
[02:35] <Newman_> and what about my applications ActionParsnip
[02:35] <sarkis> sudokill: direct rendering: Yes
[02:35] <ZykoticK9> !clone | Newman_
[02:35] <sarkis> thats what it says
[02:35] <Newman_> and repo's i've installed
[02:35] <sudokill> sarkis, looks like ur using nvidia
[02:35] <sarkis> cool
[02:36] <sarkis> just a technicality then
[02:36] <sarkis> thanks gys
[02:36] <Newman_> hmm
[02:36] <Newman_> now what about the repositories i'm synced with
[02:36] <Newman_> i have a few github repos i have synced on my machine
[02:36] <sudokill> Newman_, basically if u back up home ud have to reinstall ur programs but ud keep ur settings
[02:36] <jc319> On a default install where is X11 configuration file?
[02:36] <Newman_> will that carry over when i copy my home directory
[02:36] <Newman_> hmm
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> jc319: udev is used but you CAN use: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> Newman_, if you added PPAs/Repos you should probably manually add those to the new machine before trying the above !clone steps
[02:37] <Newman_> ok
[02:37] <rogeriocam31415> Can anyone help me?
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> !ask > rogeriocam31415
[02:37] <Newman_> so it's just a matter of copying the contents of my home directory, adding my ubuntu/canonical repos/ and installing all packages
[02:38] <jc319> ActionParsnip: I just want to dump/export current config, how can I do that?
[02:38] <sudokill> newman yea
[02:38] <Newman_> will this carry over themes
[02:38] <Newman_> my issue though is with android repos i have synced and android kernel repos
[02:38] <bkalinga1> Facing problem while booting Ubuntu10.04 kernel panic - not syncinc : VFS : Unable to mounr root fs on unknown-block (2,0) Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.32
[02:38] <Newman_> doesn't some symlink go on between that and the github repo
[02:38] <bkalinga1> any clue to it
[02:38] <Newman_> copying it would cause errors or no?
[02:38] <ZykoticK9> Newman_, if you want an extra step you could move /var/cache/apt/archive/*.deb to the new machine as well - saves downloading
[02:39] <sudokill> Newman_, what i usually do is write everything down, by hand, on a notepad, then do a clean install
[02:39] <rogeriocam31415> what is the best compiler for python?
[02:39] <sudokill> backup any config files
[02:39] <mrdeb> how long is 1004 gonna be supported and is it worht to install it now
[02:39] <Newman_> ZykoticK9: good idea
[02:39] <Newman_> give me a sec guys i'm gonna write these all down in an email
[02:39] <Newman_> i'd rather get this right the first time
[02:40] <Newman_> i've took a lot of time setting up my dev laptop
[02:40] <Newman_> i hate having to re do things
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> jc319: copy the hiodden folders in home as that is where user settings are kept
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> mrdeb, 10.04 is LTS so supported for 3 years on desktop - so until 2013
[02:40] <rogeriocam31415> can i use the GCC compiler for python files?
[02:40] <mrdeb> ZykoticK9: until wha month
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: Natty support dies 1 day after Hardy desktop support dies
[02:40] <sudokill> rogeriocam31415, yes
[02:40] <szal> !10.04
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> mrdeb, not sure...
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:41] <mrdeb> is it april
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> rogeriocam31415: no, its python, not c
[02:41] <mrdeb> please tlel me if i shuld install lts
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: check the link, it tells you
[02:41] <Newman_> so sudokill what should my steps be do you suggest
[02:41] <bkalinga1> mrdeb:i have 11.04  but for MeeGo project related activity i need this 1004
[02:41] <szal> ActionParsnip: hasn't Hardy desktop support already died?
[02:41] <Newman_> and is there any particular order to restoring these?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: I'd install natty, the release dies at the same time
[02:41] <mrdeb> bkalinga1: 32 bit?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> szal: 8.04  yes desktop is dead, server is still going
[02:42] <cane99> I need to reset my password in freenode can anyone help?
[02:42] <bkalinga1> yes
[02:42] <rogeriocam31415> anyone know a good book for python studies?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> cane99: ask in #freenode
[02:42] <sudokill> Newman_, its up to you, id back up any config files / important files and clean install and write stuff down you need to remember to do / add in the new install
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> rogeriocam31415: the guys in #python  may know some stuff :)
[02:42] <bkalinga1> mrdeb:actually after installing it was not listed in grub list
[02:42] <cane99> bkalinga1: what do I kneed to do.
[02:43] <Newman_> i have bunch of compiz settings too
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> cane99, you might want to try #freenode channel
[02:43] <bkalinga1> so i booted in 1104
[02:43] <Newman_> i'm guessing they are stored in the .compiz hidden folder at home
[02:43] <bkalinga1> then do a grub-update
[02:43] <Newman_> so all the home directory with hidden files should suffice
[02:43] <sudokill> im not sure about compiz
[02:43] <Newman_> ah
[02:43] <Newman_> and themese
[02:43] <cane99> ZykoticK9: thanks
[02:43] <bkalinga1> then 1004 shown in the grub list
[02:43] <Newman_> *themes
[02:43] <sudokill> Newman_, yea ur home dir stores ll ur user settings
[02:43] <Newman_> they are in a diferent area?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Newman_: sure, there are more files in $HOME/.config   too
[02:44] <sudokill> Newman_, but u might have some root settings idk
[02:44] <Newman_> right that i know ActionParsnip
[02:44] <Newman_> root settigns?
[02:44] <Newman_> i don't believe i do
[02:44] <sudokill> ok
[02:44] <Newman_> i do have some paths exported in .bashrc
[02:44] <Newman_> but that's in HOME
[02:44] <Newman_> so no worries with that
[02:44] <sudokill> just backup ur home
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> Newman_, have you made any changes to /etc files?  If so, you might want to back those up as well.
[02:44] <jc319> ActionParsnip: I can't seem to find X11 settings in ~/.*. Do you know where is the resolution setting 'stored'?
[02:44] <sudokill> entre home
[02:44] <bkalinga1> but when choosing that it shows Ubuntu10.04 kernel panic - not syncinc : VFS : Unable to mounr root fs on unknown-block (2,0) Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.32
[02:45] <ZykoticK9> jc319, it's done automajically now.  What are you trying to do exactly?
[02:45] <cyperbg> guys, I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 with just one video card connected to the system, but plan on adding 3 more - can that lead to a crash?
[02:45] <sudokill> Newman_, u must have used sudo to change some settings sometime? its hard to back it all up randomly
[02:45] <Newman_> ZykoticK9: i guess what my real question should have been is what can i copy over to another computer with out having to worry about if hardware is the same
[02:45] <sudokill> home will do most of ur settings tho
[02:45] <Newman_> my main issue is having the parition become unbootable
[02:45] <sudokill> ?
[02:45] <Newman_> eh i'm not quite sure
[02:45] <sudokill> grub settings?
[02:46] <Newman_> right
[02:46] <Newman_> i have burg
[02:46] <Newman_> that i can copy the config
[02:46] <Newman_> for just the theme part
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> Newman_, it' would "probably" work fine - but i wouldn't "recommend" it.  Good luck.
[02:46] <Newman_> that's not an issue
[02:46] <FloodBot1> Newman_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <sudokill> Newman_, if i was u id write stuff down if u have  alot
[02:46] <sudokill> then do it from clean
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> jc319: x11 settings arent stored in $HOME
[02:47] <cyperbg> guys, I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 with just one video card connected to the system, but plan on adding 3 more - can that lead to a crash?
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> jc319: the display is probed and detected at boot and setup
[02:47] <Newman_> i'm going to do that
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, really, do you know where?
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> cyperbg: should be fine
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: where what?
[02:47] <sudokill> Newman_, i write list like grub settings, sudoers settings, program config files remmeber to do this and that etc ll
[02:47] <sudokill> then just go through it all again
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, where Xorg files are stored in ~
[02:47] <cyperbg> ActionParsnip thank you :)
[02:48] <jc319> ActionParsnip: Last time I used linux we had to define by hand 1200x768 etc. Quite a way. Thanks
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, SORRY "aren't"
[02:48] <Newman_> yeah
[02:49] <Newman_> i'm going to do that, i guess main things are HOME w/ hidden files, all ubuntu repositories, and packages
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> jc319: indeed and you can still do it that way, in some cases it's NEEDED
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: as far as I know its all simply detected and setin
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> jc319, what graphics card are you using?  Can't you just use the GUI Monitors to set your resolution
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> *setup
[02:49] <sudokill> \' '/ ^_^ \' '/  night
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: on the fly
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, ya - sorry i totally misread your reply
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: no problem bro
[02:50] <jc319> ActionParsnip: Basically I have this lovely Ubuntu setup, everything works OOB, however I want to 'export' it now to an xorg.conf file so that I can relatively easily setup/re-use this in other distros/OSes I will be installing soon. Is it possible to export the results of this udev probe?
[02:51] <szal> jc319: do you have files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/?
[02:52] <jc319> szal: There's no such directory. There is /etc/X11 but it has no .confs inside
[02:52] <szal> jc319: then it's indeed a case of on-the-fly autoconfig
[02:53] <jc319> Yes it autoconfig's I understand but at some point (possibly just before drawing the initial windows on screen) system becomes aware of the capabilities right, I just want to dump it - if possible?
[02:54] <john_rambo> is there any windows mm player available which I can install using wine & then use vdpau ?
[02:55] <szal> does vdpau work in Wine at all?
[02:55] <soreau> john_rambo: You don't want to use any windows player on linux when there's mplayer
[02:55] <john_rambo> szal, I don't know
[02:55] <john_rambo> soreau, mplayer is giving me issues with certain files that the problem
[02:55] <soreau> john_rambo: And, there's mplayer ;)
[02:56] <pksadiq> john_rambo: anyway I have once used klm codec pack, I don't know whether it works or not now
[02:56] <john_rambo> soreau, 1 sec please
[02:56] <soreau> john_rambo: If you're having issues with mplayer, it's likely actually your graphics driver
[02:56] <pksadiq> john_rambo: anyway I think there is some issue with .mid and .3gp files with mplayer and vlc
[02:56] <szal> pksadiq: you don't need dubious Windows codec packs when there's w32codecs from Medibuntu
[02:57] <john_rambo> soThis is the problem ...http://pastebin.com/Mrcwk7sM
[02:57] <pksadiq> szal: sorry, I just answered for what he asked
[02:57] <spasysheep> I seem to have irrevocably made my usb stick believe it's a cd...
[02:57] <szal> pksadiq: no, you didn't..  a codec pack is not a player ;)
[02:58] <allie1> ahh...i wish i had more time to learn all of this...am having trouble with the scanner in my 3in1
[02:58] <allie1> i hate to say im still a newbie
[02:58] <pksadiq> szal: I think you have not used that, use it, it's gpl ;) codec+player
[02:59] <semitones> hey could anyone help me troubleshoot a network connectivity issue? I enabled remote desktop on my laptop, but my desktop can't see it
[02:59] <john_rambo> soreau,
[02:59] <szal> pksadiq: I have used it actually, years ago on Win..  back then I think it came w/ Media Player Classic, which is dead now
[03:00] <Nobgul-bnc> Could someone help me with setting up a cron job? I haven't done one in years and forget how
[03:00] <bkalinga1> Using gparted I formatted the partition on which i had installed ubuntu1004
[03:00] <allie1> helloo?? can someone help allie1 :)
[03:00] <bkalinga1> now will it show in my grub list?
[03:00] <qin> semitones: on desktop: ping <laptop ip>
[03:01] <bkalinga1> should i do any kind of refresh/update to invalidate the old operation
[03:01] <qin> Nobgul-bnc: scontab -e (use absolute paths)
[03:02] <Nobgul-bnc> doesnt that use vi qin?
[03:02] <Nobgul-bnc> fails at vi needs to use pico =P
[03:03] <qin> Nobgul-bnc: If you using it first time it should ask what editor to use, otherwise man crontab, there is option to change default editor
[03:03] <Nobgul-bnc> yer i just did the export thing thanks lets see if i can figure this out
[03:05] <Nobgul-bnc> qin, any help on the time setting thing?
[03:06] <Tekk_> linux-image is both the kernel and the init right?
[03:06] <qin> Nobgul-bnc: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[03:06] <semitones> qin: ping is unreachable
[03:07] <qin> Nobgul-bnc: Sorry, for cron?
[03:07] <Nobgul-bnc> I ment * * 7 * * command would run it ever 7 hours?
[03:07] <fdeiam> are there sata to ide adaptors ?
[03:07] <Nobgul-bnc> I have seen some yes.
[03:08] <UbuntuLily> Is there a shortcut key for switching to an external display on a laptop?  my display is cooked and i have an external hooked it but cant seem to get it to come up
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> Nobgul-bnc: you can use gnome-schedule (if you have an X server) it's a nice gui for cron
[03:08] <qin> semitones: Is your laptop firewalled? try on desktop: nc -l 3333 and no laptop nc <desktop ip> -p 3333>
[03:09] <Nobgul-bnc> ActionParsnip, i do but i think I got it. Ill know if it cleans up the user files tomorow =)
[03:12] <semitones> qin: nc: cannot use -p and -l
[03:12] <semitones> hold on
[03:13] <semitones> qin: both commands just sit there on an empty line
[03:14] <qin> semitones: Sorry, on laptop nmap desktop_ip -p 3333
[03:15] <qin> semitones: What should discover open port, and nc should reset (on desktop)
[03:15] <semitones> "what"?
[03:16] <semitones> nmap discovers the open port?
[03:16] <qin> Well see
[03:16] <semitones> kk starting nmap
[03:17] <semitones> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
[03:17] <qin> semitones: So, on desktop nc still listens?
[03:17] <semitones> yes
[03:17] <semitones> but hasn't heard anything
[03:18] <qin> semitones: What firewall are you using? and what are ip of both machines?
[03:18] <semitones> i didn't think I was using any firewall
[03:19] <semitones> <IP_ADDRESS> laptop, <IP_ADDRESS> desktop
[03:19] <UbuntuLily> Is there a shortcut key for switching to an external display on a laptop?  my display is cooked and i have an external hooked it but cant seem to get it to come up
[03:20] <cn28h> UbuntuLily, easiest way might be to boot with the external display attached
[03:21] <allie1> trouble with an 3in1
[03:21] <qin> semitones: On both machines, sudo iptables -L, sudo netstat -tulp, ps aux | grep firestarter
[03:22] <babalu> best prossesor to build a ubuntu pachine AMD or INTEL?
[03:22] <babalu> machine
[03:22] <qin> semitones: and ping google.co.uk
[03:22] <allie1> my scanner isn't sending info back to my computer
[03:22] <Erik500002> Hey guys any natty  aircrack users in here?
[03:24] <bazhang> Erik500002, #aircrack-ng
[03:24] <LoOoD> Is there a way to prevent apt-get/dpkg from install certain package names?
[03:25] <Erik500002> thanks bazhang for reply, but I just came from there and they actually told me to join this channel :/
[03:25] <bazhang> !pinning | LoOoD
[03:25] <Jeruvy> LoOoD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[03:25] <Jeruvy> yep I'm lagging :)
[03:27] <ohzie> Hey guys. Are there any quick go-tos for when sound doesn't work on ubuntu 10.04? It's a fresh install. It seems to see my sound card, I've got the volume cranked all the way up, and the microphone thing in sound properties even can 'hear' me talking and tapping on it, so I know the soundcard is being recognized at least somewhat properly. The speakers worked fine this morning before I reinstalled.
[03:27] <semitones> qin: from the laptop http://paste.ubuntu.com/634731/ (looks like firestarter is enabled)
[03:27] <semitones> qin: desktop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/634730/
[03:30] <axisst> ive been searching gnome-look, ubuntuthemes, and other theme sites, but i havent found a nice dark, minimalistic, elegant theme yet. anyone here willing to offer a suggestion? perhaps one they have used or currently use?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> ohzie, run this in the terminal, alsamixer -V all , then to check if you have audio run , speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[03:31] <qin> semitones: No its not, it is just grep... Can you ssh into laptop?
[03:31] <IdleOne> Where does chromium-browser store bookmarks?
[03:31] <ohzie> BluesKaj: alsamixer sees my stuff
[03:31] <semitones> hold on let me try
[03:31] <ohzie> BluesKaj: no sound on speakertest
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, is if there is anything useful in ~/.config/chromium/Default
[03:32] <semitones> qin: no route to host
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, s/is/see/
[03:33] <semitones> qin: google.co.uk can be pinged fine
[03:33] <qin> semitones: Does, both machines can ping google.com
[03:33] <qin> ;)
[03:33] <semitones> hmm,mm
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: ~/.config/chrome  I believe
[03:34] <soreau> IdleOne: .config/chromium/Default/Bookmarks.bak ?
[03:34] <semitones> IdleOne: good question -- have you tried #chromium-support
[03:34] <skilz> hey how can I change my hostname?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: I thoroughly recommend speeddial2 as well :)
[03:34] <qin> skilz: Edit /etc/hostname
[03:34] <skilz> isnt there some program to do it
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> skilz: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/hostname   AND    gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[03:34] <IdleOne> Wow! thanks EVERYBODY
[03:35] <skilz> where I just write what I want
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> qin: you need to change hosts too, so that the hostname resolves to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <qin> semitones: Did you chnaged any settings in your router?
[03:35] <android> hello
[03:35] <semitones> qin: i set up port forwarding for bittorrent but that's all I've done
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> skilz: edit BOTH files at the same time and save them, you need BOTH open after using gksudo so that localhost resolves properly
[03:36] <qin> ActionParsnip: Noted
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> skilz: once the names are changed (case sensitive), save the new files and close gedit
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> skilz: you can then run: sudo service hostname stop; sudo service hostname start
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> skilz: or you can run: sudo sysctl kernel.hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME
[03:39] <skilz> sudo: unable to resolve host elaina-Dimension-2400
[03:39] <skilz> stop: Unknown instance:
[03:39] <skilz> sudo: unable to resolve host elaina-Dimension-2400
[03:39] <skilz> hostname stop/waiting
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> skilz: just reboot then, should be ok
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> derp: please don't away like that. Just physically leave
[03:41] <dimas_> !hello
[03:41] <dimas_> !help
[03:41] <ohzie> Hey guys, I found this thread that looks to clearly be my problem(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560973) but I'm getting warnings on the 'make' and errors on the 'make install' Using ubuntu 10.04
[03:41] <qin> semitones: Hmm, nast -i eth0 -m (need to instal nast to have a look on lan, also would look in router for internal broadcast settings)
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: what is the output of: lsb_release -d    please
[03:43] <ohzie> Description:Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[03:43] <dimas_> xchat seens to cratch with in few minutes...dont know why
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: run it in a terminal, the output may be useful
[03:44] <Luxe> Hey. I'm having some trouble using themes in Ubuntu.
[03:44] <Luxe> None of the methods I've followed is working and I'm not sure what to do.l
[03:44] <hacktotopo> hola
[03:44] <dimas_> isactionparsnip thank you...good idea
[03:45] <dimas_> i need help to configure an specific application(idjc) on ubuntu 10.04
[03:46] <semitones> qin: in the router port forwarding section, the laptop has VNC: TCP Any -> 5902
[03:47] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[03:48] <semitones> qin: all the laptop sees with nast is itself and the router. hold on i'll try the desktop
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: np man
[03:49] <semitones> qin: and all the desktop sees is itself and the router. hmm
[03:49] <blowson> I've never seen so many helpless crybabies in my life.
[03:49] <dimas_> ActionParsnip do you know anything about qjackctl and idjc?
[03:49] <Corey> blowson: Please remain civil. :-(
[03:49] <blowson> I'm sorry...
[03:49] <blowson> ...did I ask you anything.
[03:49] <Corey> blowson: No, but I asked you to remain civil.
[03:49] <qin> semitones: For machines on same lan there no need for port forwarding, but router can block internal communication on lan, this is option you want to enable, what router is it?
[03:49] <Corey> Insulting folks who are new to Ubuntu isn't really constructive.
[03:50] <semitones> qin:  it's a verizon actiontek something
[03:50] <blowson> this is my first day using ubuntu
[03:50] <blowson> i have a question?
[03:50] <Corey> blowson: Congratulations and welcome. :-)
[03:50] <blowson> how do i dvd?
[03:50] <Corey> !dvd | blowson
[03:51] <IdleOne> Thanks for your help semitones  ZykoticK9 soreau ActionParsnip :)
[03:51] <semitones> IdleOne: lol what was the answer?
[03:51] <dimas_> !idjc
[03:51] <IdleOne> semitones: you all pointed me more or less in the right sirection :)
[03:51] <IdleOne> d*
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: not sure what they are so I'll say no. Sorry
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> semitones: probably went 50/50 ;)
[03:53] <semitones> heh
[03:53] <semitones> :p
[03:53] <blowson> yes, ok, here's the thing...my lucid has grown to about 15gb, with all unnecessary files removed. I do bare metal backups on an external drive, but i'd really like to make an installable liveusb or something. 15gb is too big for an iso, so...
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> blowson: remove old kernels and use bleachbit :)
[03:54] <Corey> blowson: Not if you mount it from a 16GB USB drive. :-)
[03:54] <blowson> how do i make a bootable .img file from my system
[03:54] <blowson> the .iso standard allows 8gb
[03:55] <GNUdog> blowson, .iso with blu-ray could extend to 50GB
[03:56] <dimas_> ActionParsnip qjackctl is a grapphical interface to administer the multiple use of your sound card and idjc is a aplication to stream music over the internet with other features like been able to irc interact, phone calls and mics....ut i am just want to hear about the possible reason why the application behave the way it does as couple of years ago i used to manage with no problem on hardy
[03:56] <update> sup nerds
[03:57] <bazhang> update, ubuntu support issue?
[03:58] <update> yeah everytime i start up ubuntu my computer freezes and i have to hit a keyboard shortcut to unfreeze it
[03:58] <knightrage> hey guys. something is wrong with my opengl... when i run any opengl apps (glxinfo, glxgears) i get a segfault... any idea?
[03:58] <update> any ideas?
[03:58] <blowson> you are useless turds
[03:58] <bazhang> update, what keyboard shortcut would that be
[03:58] <blowson> quit
[03:58] <blowson> QUIT
[03:58] <update> control space
[03:58] <update> opens terminal for me
[03:59] <qin> semitones: Can you check your router log, for blocked connection with lan ip.
[03:59] <afed> yes hello
[04:00] <afed> i see that prelinking is not standard on ubuntu
[04:00] <Tekk_> I have a p54usb wireless card and I can't get it to connect. iwconfig method always ends up wiht dhclient getting no offers
[04:00] <afed> is there any reason it might not be a good idea to install and enable prelink?
[04:00] <Tekk_> on natty
[04:00] <bazhang> Tekk_, what chipset
[04:01] <Tekk_> bazhang: p54, lsusb says "Dell Computer Corp. TrueMobile 1300 USB2.0 WLAN Card"
[04:02] <Tekk_> bazhang: I got it working a few weeks ago, but since did some distro hopping and went back to natty because it was the only one that worked, but I don't remember what I did for that, apparently
[04:02] <semitones> qin: I don't see any blocked connections in the lan
[04:02] <IdleOne>  mikevPussyboy Please change your nick to a family friendly one
[04:03] <IdleOne> or /part :)
[04:03] <enko_> he is just a kittyboy...
[04:03] <enko_> no harm there :)
[04:03] <afed> he goes to MIT why don't you tell him what to do
[04:03] <ZykoticK9> knightrage, CRYSTALBALL - i bet you are using ATI/AMD Graphics right?
[04:03] <Tekk_> IdleOne: stupit MIT guys seeing how long they can idle and get away with it :p
[04:03] <qin> semitones: Did you ever used ssh (or any other connection in lan) on this lan?
[04:04] <jeff__> hey guys
[04:04] <knightrage> ZykoticK9: yeah, i recently switched from proprietary to opensource ati driver... following one of the guides online now for removing it
[04:04] <enko_> How can i get my transparent terminal to show just the background behind it and not applications ?
[04:04] <jeff__> my ubuntu wont reconize when i plug the ethernet cable anymore
[04:04] <ZykoticK9> knightrage, sorry i don't have a solution - i just know that's common with ATI
[04:04] <Tekk_> enko_: what terminal?
[04:04] <enko_> stock ubunut
[04:05] <Tekk_> enko_: so gnome-terminal
[04:05] <jeff__> since i ran pppoeconf on a router
[04:05] <knightrage> k, just removed it. going to restart x now. cya
[04:05] <enko_> Tekk_: indeed
[04:05] <Tekk_> enko_: sec ;P
[04:05] <semitones> qin: yes I used to use ssh all the time in this lan
[04:05] <semitones> it always worked before
[04:05] <DanaG> Odd: when I log into Gnome, I get no panel.
[04:06] <DanaG> I have to switch to terminal, and run DISPLAY=:0 gnome-panel.
[04:06] <jeff__> hey guys... my ubuntu wont reconize when i plug the ethernet cable anymore, since i ran pppoeconfig on a router
[04:07] <Riberty> someone help me with my headset... i get sound but the mic doesnt work
[04:07] <enko_> jeff__: I don't think changing a router setting will stop ubuntu from seeing if your line is connected
[04:07] <enko_> jeff__: have you done anything else?
[04:07] <cpgo> I'm trying to install curl extension. I've done apt-get install curl libcurl3 libcurl3-dev php5-curl and restarted apache. Is there anything else that needs to be done?
[04:07] <jeff__> nope
[04:07] <jeff__> it was working well.
[04:07] <bkalinga1> after successful installation of ubuntu1004 i restarted my system but it does not show Ubuntu1004 in the grub menu
[04:08] <jeff__> so i took it off from the router, plugged on my modem, ran pppoeconf and it went ok.
[04:08] <qin> semitones: Is any of machines wireless?
[04:08] <bkalinga1> any hint to this problem
[04:08] <semitones> qin: all of them are
[04:08] <jeff__> then i removed it again, and plugged back to my router
[04:08] <jeff__> and now it doesnt reconize anymore
[04:08] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell#USB Tekk_
[04:08] <enko_> jeff__: why did you switch them in the first place ?
[04:08] <qin> semitones: Sorry to ask, do they use same access point?
[04:09] <jeff__> well.. let me explain, so
[04:09] <bazhang> Tekk_, looks like it uses the broadcom43xx
[04:09] <bazhang> !enter | jeff__
[04:09] <enko_> i've had problems with bc43.
[04:10] <semitones> qin: yes they all connect via <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:10] <semitones> on the same Wireless LAN
[04:10] <jeff__> i have an lg router, wich was set as router (hehe), and another dlink router, wich was connected to that LG. So i've plugged the lg router directly to set as bridge.
[04:10] <enko_> bazhang: I hated my bc43 so bad i just bought a $5 card from newegg to solve all my issues.
[04:10] <bkalinga1> hello experts there ...do i need to do anything to make the Freshly installed OS to appear in the Grub List
[04:11] <Tekk_> bazhang: uhh...no, it uses p54, I've gotten it to connect in debian using that driver :P
[04:11] <enko_> jeff__: What's with the "hehe" and why are you bridging these routers?
[04:11] <Tekk_> bazhang: also that information doesn't help. I have the firmware and stuff, it's just that it can't get an IP address
[04:11] <Tekk_> not getting any offers
[04:12] <bazhang> Tekk_, the link says either bcom or ndiswrapper for that
[04:12] <jeff__> well, i have 2 pcs. One of them is a webserver. The Virtual Server function wasn't working well on the lg rounter... so i set it as a bridge, and enabled the virtual server setting on the dlink router
[04:13] <DanaG> Just connected my Magic Trackpad... it doesn't even move the cursor.
[04:13] <qin> semitones: No clue, hmm, apart of reseting device by device (what would be poitless), nothing comes to my mind.
[04:13] <jeff__> another reason is that the other pc is a notebook, and the lg router has no wireless..
[04:14] <semitones> qin: sounds like I need a new router
[04:14] <caminomaster> hello
[04:14] <caminomaster> i need to share my eht1 connection to eth0, how can i?
[04:15] <enko_> jeff__: Do you have money issues? :) if not why don't you buy exactly what you need :)
[04:15] <jeff__> but is not a router problem. Doesn't metter if i plug on the lg router, nor the dlink router...
[04:15] <caminomaster> i got 2 examples of iptables based scripts, but they are different
[04:15] <enko_> jeff__: thats a linux firmware linksys with some "modified" firmware and you will get all the options you need.
[04:15] <jeff__> my brother's notebook seems to work well with it
[04:16] <jeff__> the problem isn't in the router
[04:16] <bazhang> !ics | caminomaster have a read
[04:16] <jeff__> and it's not just in home... at work, it doesn't reconize as well
[04:17] <jeff__> completely different networks, etc
[04:17] <bazhang> jeff__, its hard to read with you using the enter key so often. please dont
[04:17] <qin> semitones: I would test it on wires first.
[04:17] <mrdeb> hi guys
[04:17] <bazhang> mrdeb, hi
[04:18] <pythonirc1011> where is this stored in ubuntu+apache2 => http://paste.pocoo.org/show/423126/ ?
[04:18] <pythonirc1011> which file?
[04:19] <cyperbg> guys, remote desktop shows localhost and my windows VNC viewer says Connection refused
[04:19] <coco> I wonder if anyone here can help me with a problem installing ubuntu onto my mac
[04:19] <cyperbg> I found that: vino-preferences says that your system is reachable using 'localhost'
[04:20] <cyperbg> but I can't make it work
[04:20] <cyperbg> any ideas?
[04:20] <DanaG> Say, how do you force Xorg to reload xorg.conf files?
[04:20] <DanaG> You used to be able to simply restart HAL... but that no longer works.
[04:20] <DanaG> er, or even is possible.
[04:21] <mrdeb> does it work in debian
[04:21] <jeff__> i think i've found a solution : erase all /etc/network/interfaces info and reboot. Is that safe?
[04:21] <DanaG> Oh, I see.. the thing isn't even connecting reliably.
[04:21] <coco> I tried many of the tuturial but I have been unable to install Ubuntu no matter how many things I do. Can anyone guide me through and help
[04:22] <dr_Willis> jeff__:  move or rename them . eill be safer
[04:22] <DanaG> g-p-m also used to show the battery.
[04:22] <DanaG> Now it doesn't.
[04:22] <DanaG> Magic Trackpad won't even connect.  "Host is down."
[04:22] <jeff__> sudo rm -rf /* seems safer
[04:22] <dr_Willis> coco:  tell the vhannel how it fails
[04:22] <enko_> jeff__: indeed :)
[04:22] <MrCleaWithHair> jeff__: ....that doesn't seem safe at all
[04:22] <DanaG> jeff__: would you advise somebody to smash their hard drive with a hammer?
[04:23] <bazhang> jeff__, dont do that. not even in jest
[04:23] <coco> who is the Vhannel?
[04:23] <bkalinga1> is there any way i can manually add recently installed Ubuntu 1004 to the Grub Menu List
[04:23] <mneptok> jeff__: unfunny. and that's the last warning you will receive.
[04:23] <caminomaster> thank you, bazhang
[04:23] <dr_Willis> channel
[04:23] <MrCleaWithHair> bkalinga1: have you tried grub2-update
[04:24] <coco> well the failure is that when I restart the system it just reboots back to my regular mac operating system
[04:24] <bkalinga1> i have another installed Ubuntu1104.. shall try grub2-update there??
[04:24] <jeff__> oh, is the first and the last. Sorry about that... it was meant to be just a joke.
[04:24] <MrCleaWithHair> bkalinga1: you should do it in the last distro you installed that installed grub
[04:25] <dr_Willis> bkalinga1:  update-grub on the os you want to manage grub with
[04:25] <dr_Willis> bkalinga1:  what all do you have installed
[04:25] <bkalinga1> dr_Willis: if i am not able to see Ubuntu1004 then how can i get inside to do this update??
[04:25] <jeff__> bazzinga
[04:25] <MrCleaWithHair> bkalinga1: or use LILO instead of grub.
[04:26] <xp0nyte> wurd up
[04:26] <bkalinga1> i have Windows7 Ubuntu1104
[04:26] <dr_Willis> bkalinga1:  you can edit grub configs to add whst you want
[04:26] <imperfect-> Anyone know of something what replaces FreeNX
[04:26] <bkalinga1> just now installed 1004 which is not being shown in the Grub list
[04:26] <imperfect-> that might also might give me some Detach capability
[04:26] <DanaG> I also wish somebody would give me multi-finger detection on my touchpad, just like EXACTLY ONE Windows driver does.
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: what do you do on the remote system?
[04:26] <imperfect-> ActionParsnip: Use it?
[04:26] <dr_Willis> bkalinga1:  so just 2 os are installed?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: sure but in what way? what do you do?
[04:26] <imperfect-> ActionParsnip: I use screen for most things, but I'd like a graphical version of screen ;)
[04:26] <DanaG> People keep insisting that it's impossible (for a driver to patch firmware)...
[04:27] <coco> What I think my problem with it is that the DVD is not bootable. So I was trying to change the DVD to bootable and that was quite a task
[04:27] <bkalinga1> 3 Windows 7 Ubuntu11.04 and just now installed ubuntu1004
[04:27] <DanaG> To which I say:  Try removing /lib/firmware, and see how well it works when drivers "can't patch firmware".
[04:27] <imperfect-> ActionParsnip: Spreadsheets, vmware stuff etc
[04:27] <bkalinga1> dr_Willis: totally i have 3 OS
[04:27] <imperfect-> Also
[04:27] <imperfect-> Unrelated question
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: not thought about using SSH to give SFTP and SSHS?
[04:27] <bkalinga1> but when i restart my system i can see only 2
[04:27] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/546697
[04:28] <nit-wit> bkalinga1, one of the easiest ways to get in is supergrub, once inside two commands to reload grub2 to the mbr and update   http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ it
[04:28] <imperfect-> SSHS ?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: vmware has a VIC which you can control remote systems with
[04:28] <dr_Willis> covo you just burn the ios right and it dhould be bootable.
[04:28] <imperfect-> you mean X forwarding?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: sorry SSHFS
[04:28] <jeff__> well... rebooting and hoping to work
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: no, SSHFS is like samba, but secure
[04:28] <imperfect-> I'd just like to have my desktop available remotely
[04:29] <coco> Dana do you mean to update the patch firmware
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: so you can use the LOCAL apps to the client system and open the files over a secure share, rather than slow accessing over a full screen
[04:29] <bkalinga1> nit-wit: once inside means ...Inside ubuntu1104??
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: this is why I asked what you do
[04:29] <imperfect-> Unrelated question: can someone think of a -really- slimmed down linux distro for which I could use like open/flux/blackbox as the window manager so I could run only Wireshark for network troubleshooting?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: its very often not needed and there are much sleekr options available
[04:29] <bazhang> imperfect-, lubuntu
[04:29] <dr_Willis> bkalinga1:  run update grub. and see if it ads the other os. what is the 3rd os
[04:29] <sjuxax> brad-figg in room, or someone else with knowledge of Ubuntu Audio Dev PPA?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: you could install ubuntu minimal then install lxde and lxdm for a super tiny punchy OS :)
[04:30] <bkalinga1> Ubuntu 10.o4
[04:30] <torturedsoul> sigh
[04:30] <torturedsoul> still cant get ubuntu to run from my usb stick
[04:30] <imperfect-> lxde?
[04:30] <bkalinga1> update grub should be run inside ???
[04:30] <imperfect-> I basically just need blackbox+wireshark
[04:30] <bazhang> torturedsoul, using unetbootin?
[04:30] <jeff__> and it worked like a charm !!
[04:30] <torturedsoul> i use the pendrivelinux software to install the iso
[04:31] <dr_Willis> bkalinga1:  yes.. where else can you run it from.. :)
[04:31] <mrdeb> should i set any options in fstab other than defaults
[04:31] <torturedsoul> fails on several laptops so its not my laptops fault
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: sure, check it out. Its super light. Its an alternative to kde or gnome
[04:31] <DanaG> Okay, I made a more coherent comment on my bug report.
[04:31] <DanaG> Now, what do I do about my gnome panel not starting?
[04:31] <DanaG> At login, that is.
[04:31] <DanaG> It starts fine if I switch to console and launch it manually.
[04:31] <dr_Willis> torturedsoul:  tried other distros
[04:31] <torturedsoul> yes
[04:31] <tiox> I came to ask what's up with compiz blur; Why in god's green earth won't it work for my installation of Ubuntu now?
[04:32] <bluelabrat> oh noes the irony
[04:32] <coco> Anyone here knows why would the Ubuntu operating system does not show up when rebooting on a mac. and what would I do to fix this problem?
[04:32] <torturedsoul> is there any other way to install it
[04:32] <bluelabrat> bluelabrat> Hi everyone! I have a problem, my internet connection is very poor (switching provider soon). I need to set up an IRC BNC as my internet goes out frequently :\
[04:32] <bluelabrat> [23:31:41] * Disconnected
[04:32] <torturedsoul> i also have FlashBoot
[04:32] <dr_Willis> torturedsoul:  tried installing grub2 to it by hand?
[04:32] <torturedsoul> i'll try that now
[04:32] <torturedsoul> Flastboot can do that i think
[04:32] <torturedsoul> i just install grun2dos then put the 'boot' folder from the iso on there?
[04:33] <dr_Willis> delicious.com/dr_willis   i got some links to do it torturedsoul
[04:33] <bkalinga1> dr_Willis:  shall i ruun this update inside Ubuntu11.04?
[04:33] <dr_Willis> torturedsoul:  i do it all by hand in ubuntu. no extra progs.
[04:33] <dr_Willis> bkalinga1:  yes  yes yes...
[04:34] <torturedsoul> thanks dr thats very helpfull
[04:34]  * bluelabrat hopes his wifi will stay connected a while more
[04:34] <imperfect-> Ourty!
[04:34] <imperfect-> lubuntu
[04:34] <bluelabrat> adding this channel to my auto join :)
[04:34] <torturedsoul> you have 100 pages of bookmarks lol, how can i find the correct tut
[04:34] <dr_Willis> torturedsoul:  some times those friendly tools break on ma also
[04:34] <bkalinga1> i can see /dev/sda13           8831       11668    22782976   83  Linux which is my Ubuntu10.04 partition
[04:34] <dr_Willis> tor
[04:35] <dr_Willis> torturedsoul:  tags...
[04:35] <dr_Willis> sda13  you got a lot of partitions
[04:35] <dr_Willis> why so many
[04:36] <cyperbg> guys I have 4 video cards and my cursor goes off screen as there is more screen than I can see
[04:36] <cyperbg> how how I disable that?
[04:37] <dr_Willis> cyperbg:  you have 4 monitors? whats the chipset?
[04:37] <cyperbg> just one monitor
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: its made to be super light and fast. It rocks and is official status as of Oneiric :D
[04:37] <coco> dr_Willis: I was wondering would you know steps I should take to fix my problem of being unable to install linux on my mac. I installed the operating system on the CD without any problems and follow the steps of all the tutorial I saw but when I got to the step of restarting the computer the only program that boots is my MAC OS x.
[04:37] <cyperbg>     North Bridge: AMD 770
[04:37] <cyperbg>     South Bridge: AMD SB710
[04:38] <coco> I changed the setting for boot so I made it a priority to boot of the DVR
[04:38] <torturedsoul> ach its over my head
[04:38] <torturedsoul> i just installed grub4dos on the usb
[04:38] <dr_Willis> coco i dont use macs. so no idea other then say ckeck forums and askubuntu.com
[04:38] <torturedsoul> now i have GRLDR file in it only
[04:38] <torturedsoul> can i just put the iso in there now
[04:38] <dr_Willis> cyperbg:  video card chipset
[04:38] <cyperbg> dr_Willis 4x Ati 5870
[04:38] <coco> Is there any mac user here that install a linux program in there computer
[04:39] <DanaG> coco: I've heard that "rEFIT" is the thing to use.
[04:39] <DanaG> Install it from within OS X.
[04:39] <coco> I used it
[04:39] <bazhang> coco, ask in a mac channel?
[04:39] <coco> but it does not work
[04:39] <DanaG> hmm, you may also need to run the "enable-always.sh"
[04:39] <coco> that was the first thing I installed
[04:39] <DanaG> That'll "bless" it as the boot loader.
[04:39] <coco> Mac people I spoke to told me to ask in a linux channel
[04:40] <coco> I guess most people who use linux dont use mac computer
[04:40] <dr_Willis> cyperbg:  that must be a large case and desk. :)   ati has some monitor tool perhaps in their drivers. or check the default monitors tool
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> coco: mac people 9 times out of 10 don't know a lot
[04:40] <coco> lol
[04:40] <bluelabrat> Can someone recommend a good BNC to use? Bad internet here until I switch :\
[04:40] <dr_Willis> 999 out of 1000 :)
[04:40] <coco> then where or who should I ask?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> bluelabrat: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    may give clues
[04:41] <cyperbg> dr_Willis - I will check :)
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> bluelabrat: you may need to disable ipv6
[04:41] <cyperbg> I use it for bitcoin mining
[04:41] <bluelabrat> ActionParsnip: done
[04:41] <bluelabrat> its actually my phone lines are old and corroded (Att)
[04:41] <dr_Willis> no idea what bitcoin even is..
[04:41] <bluelabrat> i'm just switching to cable 30mbit since its $200 to replace lines, they dont maintain them
[04:41] <dr_Willis> dont want to know really.. heh
[04:42] <cyperbg> dr_Willis :)
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> bluelabrat: i'd relpace the cables then
[04:42] <DanaG> oh yeah, you know what we had to do to get Charter to fix our dang sucky (turned out to be completely rusted) cable run to our house?
[04:42] <DanaG> We had to get Charter Telephone.
[04:42] <DanaG> Apparently, then they were legally required to make it work reliably.
[04:43] <bluelabrat> i dont have the option to have the cables replaced (phone)... though i'm getting cable internet which wont have a problem
[04:43] <bluelabrat> but in the mean time that will take some days and am desperate for a good BNC that i can use for IRC :P
[04:44] <dr_Willis> im ircing from my cellphone
[04:44] <mrdeb> wow
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: gotta be done :)
[04:44] <dr_Willis> ordered a bt keyboard today
[04:45] <coco> Another question to DanaG and Dr Willis: I also tried the ubuntu DVD on my Window Vista and Window 7 home premium and on both the operating system does not work. I installed refit and infrarecorder but still no luck
[04:45] <axscode> hi guys
[04:45] <coco> would it be easier to help me install it on a window computer
[04:45] <coco> ?
[04:45] <dr_Willis> coco why the dvd. and how did you burn ut.  what did not work
[04:46] <axscode> just wondering, if im using unity my system bell is gone. any thoughts? but without unity the system bell is there..
[04:46] <coco> THe operating system does not load, I just get the regular operating system loading
[04:46] <dr_Willis> burn cd iso. boot cd. install.... :)
[04:46] <dr_Willis> coco you mean the cd dosent boot ir what exactly
[04:46] <bluelabrat> sorry guys got disconnected again
[04:47] <_schulte_> any idea how to disable network manager on startup, I purged it from /etc/rc* but still it starts on every boot
[04:47] <coco> when I try on the CD I get the message that says that I need at least 1.4 GB even thought the UBUntu os is 699MB
[04:47] <bluelabrat> i cant pay to replace my dsl cables and am getting cable later this week
[04:47] <bluelabrat> its much cheaper at the end to bundle
[04:47] <coco> dr_willis: yes the DVD does not even show up as a choice when rebooting
[04:47] <bluelabrat> but until thne its near impossible to keep the flow of conversation on irc
[04:47] <dr_Willis> axscode:  x sort of disables the normal old beep alert.
[04:48] <coco> but when I check the DVD it shows that it has the linux program installed
[04:48] <dr_Willis> coco how dud you burn it
[04:48] <axscode> using unity? or?
[04:48] <bluelabrat> i'm looking but if anyone can suggest a BNC server...
[04:48] <bluelabrat> :)
[04:48] <axscode> is there anyway i can enable it ? my ping -a (audible) which i im used to is not working anymore
[04:49] <dr_Willis> coci HOW did you make the dvd
[04:49] <dr_Willis> coco.
[04:49] <coco> dr_willis: I go to the Ubuntu.com and downloaded to the mac or the window os and then burn it onto the dvd fromt from there
[04:49] <mrdeb> why is ubuntu 1104 not at kernel 39 yet
[04:50] <aroman1> mrdeb: ubuntu doesn't upgrade its kernels like that
[04:50] <dr_Willis> reget the cd  not the dvd. use windowd and check/reburn it
[04:50] <mrdeb> aroma, 39 is out and its faster
[04:50] <dr_Willis> !burn
[04:50] <DanaG> coco: did you use Wubi?  I'll bet you can't chainload to wubi very well with it.
[04:50] <axscode> 11.10 is using lk 3 but of course alpha dev.
[04:50] <DanaG> It probably wants a native install.
[04:50] <aroman1> mrdeb: I'm well aware. In fact i'm running 3.0. Regardless, Ubuntu policy is not to ship a whole new point release of the kernel to stable systems.
[04:51] <DanaG> Not sure of that, though.
[04:51] <DanaG> I wonder if there's an "ubuntu-mac" channel.
[04:51] <coco> should I burn it using infrarecorder?
[04:51] <bazhang> DanaG, ubuntu-ppc
[04:51] <aroman1> coco: you trying Mac+Ubuntu?
[04:51] <mrdeb> aroma, can you tell me how to intsall 3 then
[04:51] <dr_Willis> axscode:  its an x bug i recall. you may want to check the forums
[04:51] <bazhang> mrdeb, in 11.04? thats not supported
[04:51] <torturedsoul> got it working
[04:51] <torturedsoul> :)
[04:51] <aroman1> mrdeb: upgrade to 11.10, use a different distro, build it yourself, or find a PPA
[04:51] <dr_Willis> coco:  i use that tool a lot. its good
[04:52] <aroman1> those are your options
[04:52] <coco> I tried both the Mac 32 bit and the window
[04:52] <torturedsoul> is there any program for linux that is same as winhex?
[04:52] <axscode> oh sad.. i think still not fixed.
[04:52] <torturedsoul> i need to view/edit a physical hard disk
[04:52] <dr_Willis> torturedsoul:  yea..
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> !find hex
[04:52] <mrdeb> aroman1: are you on 1110
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> !inf ghex | torturedsoul
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> !info ghex | torturedsoul
[04:52] <aroman1> mrdeb: nope
[04:52] <dr_Willis> axscode:  use beep command. :)
[04:52] <mrdeb> ...
[04:52] <caminomaster> I had some files in 3 partitions. Now i've changed physical disks, creating equivalent partitions. How is better to copy the files to maintain permssions as before? with my user or as root?
[04:53] <coco> dr_WIllis: when I try to burn it using infrarecorder I was not even allowed, it said that function was not allow
[04:53] <torturedsoul> its for files, is it also for physical hdd?
[04:53] <dr_Willis> coco:  no idea on that. try other tools i guess
[04:53] <torturedsoul> i.e /dev/sda
[04:53] <axscode> i installed beep command..
[04:53] <axscode> whats next?
[04:53] <MadGirl> somebody said next was clerical :)
[04:54] <coco> dr_Willis: Which other tools would you recommend?
[04:54] <dr_Willis> axscode:  i use beep in scripts normally
[04:54] <axscode> ah thats sad again
[04:54] <axscode> :D
[04:54] <dr_Willis> !burn |coco
[04:54] <axscode> :( i mean
[04:54] <torturedsoul> anyone know if ghex can view/edit /dev/sda, or is it only for files
[04:54] <torturedsoul> winhex can edit physical disks
[04:54] <dr_Willis> beep can play music  if done right
[04:55] <gry> axscode: On one line would be easier to read
[04:55] <aroman1> torturedsoul: why not try it out and find out?
[04:55] <coco> ubottu: thanks, I'll give them a try hopefully I have better luck
[04:55] <imperfect-> is openbox available on lubuntu
[04:55] <imperfect-> ?
[04:55] <torturedsoul> because i already donwloaded like 5 and tried
[04:55] <gry> imperfect-: yes
[04:55] <torturedsoul> none can
[04:55] <bazhang> imperfect-, its part of it yes
[04:55] <dr_Willis> imperfect-:  yes
[04:55] <torturedsoul> so instead of wasting hours i decide to ask here
[04:55] <axscode> gry? means?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> torturedsoul: you get the idea, just search software centre
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: openbox is the default WM of LXDE
[04:55] <gry> axscode: you said a few lines, say it in one please so I don't have to read it split
[04:56] <imperfect-> Good
[04:56] <axscode> oh, that. well. amm. ok... i will...
[04:56] <imperfect-> needs to be fast and wiresharky
[04:56] <imperfect-> ;)
[04:56] <imperfect-> thanks
[04:56] <gry> axscode: :)
[04:56] <mrdeb> aroman1: what ubuntu are you on
[04:56] <wildbat> is it possible to put ISOs in partitions in a USB HDD and boot with grub2 ? anyone know?
[04:56] <aroman1> mrdeb: I'm not running Ubuntu on the box that has 3.0
[04:57] <mrdeb> aroman1: what are you running
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: you can just run openbox on its own, without LXDE, makes it faster
[04:57] <aroman1> mrdeb: gentoo
[04:57] <mrdeb> is that fast
[04:57] <aroman1> extremely
[04:57] <mrdeb> k
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> wildbat: yes, grub2 can boot ISO files
[04:57] <mrdeb> i have not tried genttoo maybe i should
[04:57] <dr_Willis> wildbat:  should be doable. but i keep them on a single partition
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: its not as simple as ubuntu
[04:58] <mrdeb> i know its not simple b ut it doesnt matter
[04:58] <Medjai> if i've made changes to unity like taking off that hover scroll and removing the global menu and i'm transfering my HOME folder from one computer to another do those changes reside in the HOME folder or should there be something else I should be copying
[04:58] <imperfect-> What' LXDE?
[04:58] <mrdeb> i cna figure it out
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: but by using it you will learn a LOT about your OS
[04:58] <imperfect-> like XDM?
[04:58] <imperfect-> I"m running this on like a p3
[04:58] <imperfect-> er p4
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: lxde is a desktop environment like gnome or kde
[04:58] <westz> imperfect-, no, it's a desktop environment like GNOME or KDE
[04:58] <imperfect-> just using it for packet capture
[04:58] <dr_Willis> !lxde
[04:58] <imperfect-> gotcha
[04:58] <coco> ubottu: I tried that website it was helpfull but I got stock on that one. Based on the webpage it seems like the disk needs to have something that says that it is bootable. So how do I know if my DVD can be used as a bootable devise?
[04:58] <bkalinga1> dr_willis: doing grup-update shows my newly installed 10.04 but selecting that kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[04:58] <imperfect-> why would I run opebox ontop of lxde/
[04:58] <westz> ActionParsnip, HIVEMIND
[04:58] <mrdeb> aroman1: are you using fox or chrome
[04:58] <aroman1> chrome
[04:58] <Cydd> guys
[04:58] <mrdeb> k
[04:58] <gry> Cydd hi
[04:59] <Cydd> im looking for a linux distro that you recommend and rhymes with choo-chun-too
[04:59] <dr_Willis> coco the ubunti cd and dvd Are bootable if brun
[04:59] <Medjai> gentoo?
[04:59] <MadGirl> gentoo is fun and funtoo is not?
[04:59] <Medjai> lol
[04:59] <dr_Willis> burnt right
[04:59] <gry> Cydd this channel is ubuntu only, try ##linux for that
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> westz: huh?
[04:59] <imperfect-> Now if I could only et my GoogleTV to stream videos from my comouter
[04:59] <Cydd> it was a joke gry
[04:59] <imperfect-> I'd be happy as a lark
[04:59] <Cydd> but ily
[04:59] <westz> we commented almost identical things to him at the same time
[04:59] <gry> :-D
[05:00] <Medjai> PSST! anyone Unity experts here?
[05:00] <gry> Medjai: This channel? Sure.
[05:00] <aroman1> Medjai: just ask your question :)
[05:00] <westz> Medjai, screw unity, gnome FTW
[05:00] <Medjai> lol
[05:00] <Medjai> i love gnome
[05:00] <coco> dr_Willis: oh so there is no label on it that would say that it is bootable. So basically as long as I burned the ubuntu then I should have no problem and is rare to have the problem I have right?
[05:00] <Medjai> but i'm sure they had a reason why the switched
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> imperfect-: setup samba shares, if your google tv can  read windows shares you are smug. XBMC also can setup a streaming server. Depends what the device can do
[05:00] <axscode> #unbutu+1 = unity
[05:00] <Medjai> so i adapted
[05:00] <gry> !anybody | Medjai
[05:00] <dr_Willis> coco yep.
[05:00] <coco> dr_Willis: unless I am doing something wrong
[05:00] <Medjai> if i've made changes to unity like taking off that hover scroll and removing the global menu and i'm transfering my HOME folder from one computer to another do those changes reside in the HOME folder or should there be something else I should be copying
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> westz: unity doesn't replace gnome
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> westz: unity is only a shell, not a DE
[05:01] <Medjai> um i believe it did replace gnome
[05:01] <aroman1> It did not.
[05:01] <axscode> fight!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <Medjai> well i thought it was both a shell and a gnome replacement
[05:01] <bazhang> !ot
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: it doesn't. many think it does. Its funny
[05:01] <westz> ActionParsnip, i know, i just dont like unity, and its easier to say "gnome vs unity" than "gnome panels and stuff vs unity"
[05:01] <Medjai> because you can go clasical
[05:01] <Medjai> or merge
[05:01] <mrdeb> unity works ok if you get used to it
[05:02] <aroman1> mrdeb: that's true of everything in life
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> westz: its an incorrec comparison
[05:02] <axscode> yes im loving it
[05:02] <dr_Willis> its a layer over the gnome3 stuff i guess you can say
[05:02] <Medjai> hmm
[05:02] <mrdeb> you can finally easily use the windows key to lauch apps
[05:02] <axscode> unity + awn so i can still display the menu at awn
[05:02] <westz> ActionParsnip, doesnt matter really, since i dont like unity
[05:02] <wiesshund> unity is ok for like small screen laptops, and task oriented setups with few apps, i just dont like it for my desktop
[05:02] <mrdeb> and screne size is better used
[05:02] <Medjai> hey ActionParsnip
[05:02] <skilz> whats the name of the new ubuntu wm?
[05:02] <mrdeb> screen
[05:02] <mrdeb> skilz: compiz
[05:02] <Medjai> quick help with my question?
[05:02] <skilz> no
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> skilz: its still compiz and metacity by default
[05:02] <Medjai> if i've made changes to unity like taking off that hover scroll and removing the global menu and i'm transferring my HOME folder from one computer to another do those changes reside in the HOME folder or should there be something else I should be copying
[05:02] <aroman1> skilz: the window *decorator*?
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: ask the channel
[05:02] <skilz> I mean the gui
[05:02] <Medjai> i did
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> skilz: gnome
[05:03] <Medjai> everyone seems to skip over it
[05:03] <westz> do html tags work here?
[05:03] <skilz> with the icons on the side
[05:03] <skilz> like a bar
[05:03] <axscode> no this is irc.
[05:03] <Medjai> lol it may be too long that it only shows on my side or did you just see that last question
[05:03] <aroman1> westz: nope
[05:03] <coco> ubutto, dr_Willis and DanaG: alright thanks for the help
[05:03] <dr_Willis> westz:  it depends on how you disabled those things
[05:03] <westz> any way for me to bolden/strikethrough
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: I believe they do, settings are stored on a per user basis
[05:03] <bazhang> westz, in this channel? no
[05:03] <dr_Willis> oops thats for Medjai
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> skilz: that isnt a WM, its a shell
[05:04] <westz> aww. oh well then
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> skilz: its called unity
[05:04] <Medjai> well
[05:04] <bazhang> westz, do you have an actual support question?
[05:04] <Medjai> i don't even remember how i did it dr_Willis
[05:04] <Medjai> lol it was so long ago
[05:04] <imperfect-> i i dont like unity at all ;(
[05:04] <westz> not at the moment, just here to kill time maybe answer a few questions while im installing some stuff
[05:04] <skilz> ActionParsnip, I thought a shell was something you ssh into
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> skilz: the WM is still compiz, you just have an extra app running. Its like conky. It just runs and sits there
[05:04] <Erik500002> hey guys need some help I accidentally deleted my wireless modules so I have no wifi, how can I restore everything back to default
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> skilz: thats a different kind of shell
[05:05] <aroman1> Erik500002: reinstalling the OS would be the easiest I assume
[05:05] <DanaG> I figured out my magic trackpad issue:
[05:05] <robin0800> axscode: ubuntu+1 is not unity it is ubuntu 11.10 development
[05:05] <dr_Willis> plug in to wired..
[05:05] <Medjai> btw should i install all my applications first and then copy over my home folder
[05:05] <westz> Erik500002, you can probabloy rip them off your install disc if you have it
[05:05] <Medjai> or does the order not matter
[05:05] <DanaG> It's  not working with Windows either, so it must be a low battery.
[05:05] <Erik500002> aroman1 dont tell me Dx, just reinstalled and having such a hard time with natty :/
[05:05] <bazhang> !enter | Medjai
[05:05] <dingurt> Lol, reinstall os is your answer?
[05:05] <Erik500002> westz i have my install cd here so how do I rip them out browsing the cd and couldn't find the .ko files
[05:06] <DanaG> Erik500002: try dpkg -S b43 (or whatever the module was)
[05:06] <aroman1> Erik500002: I don't see why it would be such a big deal. All you have to do is reinstall the system files -- not your personal stuff
[05:06] <aroman1> just tell Ubiquity not to reformat your problem
[05:06] <DanaG> Reinstall is a big deal for me, because I have system-level tweaks all over the place.
[05:06] <Erik500002> aroman1 still, I have such a hard time with grub always have issues when reinstalling
[05:06] <aroman1> it's easy, relatively painless, and guaranteed to work
[05:06] <DanaG> You can probably just chroot in, and reinstall the kernel packages.
[05:06] <dtchen> Erik500002: did the wireless modules come with Ubuntu, i.e., were they part of linux-image?
[05:06] <dtchen> Erik500002: ^ what DanaG implied
[05:06] <axscode> robin0800: well sorry i thought its a good place to ask unity :D
[05:07] <DanaG> !chroot
[05:07] <dingurt> aroman1: And completely unnecessary
[05:07] <wiesshund> i always copy system tweaks to my home folder, just for reinstalling
[05:07] <DanaG> Okay, that factoid is overkill.
[05:07] <aroman1> dingurt: that depends. if the guy is a total novice, the other options might be impractical
[05:07] <aroman1> sometimes the most straightforward and easiest solution is the best
[05:07] <DanaG> There are just a couple of things you need to do:  mount the root.  bind mount /proc.  bind mount /dev.  bind mount /sys
[05:07] <aroman1> but sure, if we can help him in a less invasive way, by all means.
[05:07] <Ibyss> Anyone by any chance manage to sucessfully access server with outside IP? (Using desktop, not server version of ubuntu).
[05:08] <aroman1> Ibyss: I have
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> DanaG, to see chroot steps check !grub2 link
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: sure
[05:08] <dingurt> Ibyss: All the time
[05:08] <Erik500002> DanaG just used dpkg and still got module not found
[05:08] <wiesshund> Ibyss,  yes, if i understand question correctly
[05:08] <Ibyss> I just can't get this thing to work for the life of me.
[05:08] <DanaG> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-whateveritwas
[05:08] <dingurt> Ibyss: As in ssh or vnc or what?
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: how do you want to connect to the system?
[05:09] <DanaG> Ibyss: if you have a home router, you probably need port forwarding.
[05:09] <Erik500002> DanaG your a genius totally forgot about the linux-image reinstall xD
[05:09] <dingurt> ^^
[05:09] <Erik500002> that should do the trick for me :)
[05:09] <Guest22035> I did not anything but i could access
[05:09] <DanaG> I prefer aptitude...
[05:10] <Ibyss> It's not server ubuntu. It's my own computer. The ports are forward. Online Port checker says I'm doing this right. But I just can't go and see my website with outside IP. I changed port number, still nothing.
[05:10] <aroman1> DanaG: good man
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Erik500002: it's "you're a genius"  'your implies ownership
[05:10] <Ibyss> I have firewall disabled.
[05:10] <DanaG> I'd love to make a site that autocorrects "it's" to "it is".
[05:10] <babu> how to install tomcat in eclipse
[05:10] <imperfect-> is there reallt grammernazism afoot
[05:10] <DanaG> And "you're" to "you are"
[05:10] <Erik500002> right, just typing in here fast :)
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: can you access the site from localhost?
[05:10] <DanaG> It'd make those mistakes look really stupid even to the person who made them. =P
[05:10] <DanaG> oh, and "cos" to "cosine"
[05:11] <Ibyss> YEs. And from another computer on my network too.
[05:11] <Erik500002> not really paying much attention to grammar been having such a tough day with ubuntu Dx
[05:11] <dingurt> Ibyss: If you are 100% sure the ports are forwarded then make sure apache is running
[05:11] <westz> DanaG, I LOVE IT
[05:11] <skilz> what should i run unity in?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Ibyss: if you give me the address or IP, I can test port 80 if you want
[05:11] <DanaG> Too bad you can't do the same to "your"
[05:11] <skilz> im using xfce
[05:11] <dingurt> Ibyss: Ports must not be forwarded or firewall is blocking then
[05:11] <skilz> i tyed unity into the terminal and I got a bunch of errors
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> skilz: you can run unity on xfce if you wish
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> skilz: if you dont have 3D accelleration, install unity 2d
[05:12] <dr_Willis> thats a sick idea..:)
[05:12] <Erik500002> well i'll be right back have to restart
[05:13] <DanaG> I've used Unity on a 915GM.    So you press it again.
[05:13] <dr_Willis>  does xfce support compositing? ife not tired xfce in ages
[05:13] <skilz> how do I install unity 2d?
[05:13] <DanaG> What it should do: you press it, it looks "pressed".  Sure, the thing doesn't appear yet, but at least you know you've actually pressed it.
[05:14] <bazhang> skilz, the package unity-2d
[05:14] <Ibyss> dingurt, apache is running, I can reach it through localhost, www.auk.dev, the <IP_ADDRESS>, and another port number.
[05:14] <KM0201> !info unity-2d | skilz
[05:14] <axscode> and its not to resize unity icons to 32px and autohide it.
[05:14] <skilz> E: Unable to locate package unity-2d
[05:14] <axscode> s/not/nice
[05:14] <westz> can i update the panel applets to the ones on 11.04 if i'm running lucid? i want the controller for banshee on my volume controller
[05:14] <dingurt> Ibyss: I read that after I sent the msg
[05:15] <westz> *on gnome obviously
[05:15] <Ibyss> ANd my firewall is down. Not on.
[05:16] <caminomaster> how do you reccomend to move data between partitions to preserve permissions? root or my user?
[05:17] <wiesshund> westz,  i am guessing probably not
[05:18] <westz> im wondering how its integrated like that... if it's part of gnome-panel or of banshee
[05:18] <DanaG> Magic trackpad: why the heck does a touchpad need to be wireless?  That's like having a cordless drill press.
[05:18] <digitalfiz> DanaG, that would be AWESOME
[05:18] <wiesshund> so you can put the touch pad anyplace you like?
[05:18] <josh__> hallo all :)
[05:18] <DanaG> Except when your battery dies.
[05:18] <wiesshund> and spend money on batteries?
[05:18] <DanaG> I'd rather have a USB touchpad.
[05:18] <OerHeks> DanaG, maybe #Ubuntu-touch channel is any help
[05:19] <Lasers> DanaG: Because you can carry Magic Trackpad to the bathroom and control XBMC from there. Ho ho ho.
[05:19] <josh__> so i'm looking how to get rid of docky ... can't find it now .... can somebody help?
[05:19] <DanaG> Nah, I think my batteries are just dead.
[05:19] <DanaG> It has enough power to be discovered, but turns off soon after.
[05:19] <Medjai> !automate
[05:19] <DanaG> So they should've made two models.
[05:19] <digitalfiz> i hate wireless crap i use my pc to much it cost to much or to much of a headache keeping up with batteries
[05:19] <OerHeks> DanaG, if it fails, remove and insert battery again
[05:19] <Medjai> !replicate
[05:19] <Lasers> !battery
[05:19] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and the WIndows drivers for it suck... they can't even right-click.
[05:19] <caminomaster> i see it practical to use as a remote control for movies XD
[05:19] <DanaG> They can only right-RELEASE.
[05:20] <DanaG> You  get nothing on button down!
[05:20] <Medjai> how can i re-install a package list on 11.04
[05:20] <DanaG> And when you let go, you get a down and up.
[05:20] <DanaG> Imagine if your car did that!
[05:20] <Medjai> i can't seem to do it correctly
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> caminomaster: xbmc has a great remote from android phones, as does VLC ;)
[05:21] <DanaG> dtchen: did you hear how the Airport Express endpoint got its private key extracted?
[05:21] <Erik500002> DanaG reinstalling linux-image did nothing :/
[05:21] <DanaG> Could we now have a PulseAudio AirPlay endpoint?
[05:21] <Lasers> DanaG: How? I had to ask.
[05:22] <caminomaster> what is exactly xbmc?
[05:22] <Lasers> !xbmc
[05:22] <DanaG> http://mafipulation.org/blagoblig/2011/04/08#shairport
[05:22] <Lasers> Wow. We don't have one for it.
[05:22] <wiesshund> I have totally eliminated the need for remote control for movies etc. Install media hardware, popcorn maker and mini fridge in bathroom near toilet. No need to pause after hitting play. :)
[05:22] <DanaG> Dumped the ROM.
[05:22] <caminomaster> media server?
[05:22] <DanaG> I'll be getting a microserver.
[05:22] <Lasers> caminomaster: Yeah. Google "XBMC" It's right there.
[05:22] <DanaG> HP Proliant Microserver.
[05:23] <DanaG> I'll be putting FreeNAS on it, for the sake of ZFS.
[05:23] <nikhgupta> can someone help me with a mysql query. I tried #mysql and do not know where else to ask for.
[05:23] <nikhgupta> can someone tell me if its better to go with a HABTM relationship structure or storing as serialized strings when around 5-15 rows are created every few hours for this relationship?
[05:23] <caminomaster> it seems interesting if i can stream media from my desktop to my n810
[05:23] <[THC]AcidRain> ubuntu question: what is something i can setup on my servers to help out humanity
[05:23] <josh__> hm. can somebody tell me what to do about this message when i try to remove Docky from my system? ... "Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.
[05:23] <josh__> Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f"
[05:23] <caminomaster> it runs Maemo
[05:23] <caminomaster> that's the point
[05:24] <wiesshund> [THC]AcidRain,  to help out humanity?  Trust me you don't have enough computers
[05:25] <Lasers> josh__: Check /etc/apt/sources.list (and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*) for any PPA you may added. However Ubuntu do have Software Sources (that you can use to comment out lines -- If any).
[05:25] <[THC]AcidRain> wiesshund: lol
[05:25] <[THC]AcidRain> well. perhaps that was the wrong question. what can i do to give back to the community?
[05:25] <Lasers> wiesshund: You want less computers.  Lol
[05:26] <[THC]AcidRain> i already have a shoutcast stream with uncensored music, a public ftp with 1000s of files, email servers,
[05:26] <[THC]AcidRain> i just wanna do a little extra
[05:26] <[THC]AcidRain> and im fresh outta ideas
[05:26] <Lasers> josh__: I'm not on Ubuntu. Look for "Software Sources" -- And turn off anything that may be in 3rd party.
[05:26] <caminomaster> how do you reccomend to move data between partitions to preserve permissions? root or my user?
[05:26] <wiesshund> [THC]AcidRain,  set up a "dating" service ?
[05:26] <nikhgupta> caminomaster, in a .tgz archive while preserving permissions
[05:27] <caminomaster> nikhgupta, thanks 4 answering
[05:27] <[THC]AcidRain> wiesshund: i thought about that. but isnt there already enough of those? i also thought about something like myspace or facebook. but they pretty much got that on lock
[05:27] <caminomaster> but is too much data to move!
[05:27] <[THC]AcidRain> i wanna do something new, something that hasnt been done before, regardless out crazy and out there it is
[05:27] <DanaG> oh yeah, and my CM106 sound card is still buggy.
[05:27] <DanaG> Turtle Beach Audio Advantage SRM.
[05:27] <DanaG> Now available in cheap knockoff: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156033&cm_re=usb_7.1-_-12-156-033-_-Product
[05:28] <nikhgupta> caminomaster, I only know of this way to do what you are asking.. There must be more ways to do it though, I am sure. :/
[05:28] <DanaG> It's a buggy device... claims only stereo input, until I kill pulseaudio.
[05:28] <DanaG> And then it has only a "speaker" volume.
[05:28] <DanaG> And it only supports 7.1.  No 5.1, not even stereo.  Just 7.1.
[05:28] <caminomaster> nikhgupta, there's no system data... not home nor /
[05:29] <DanaG> Oh, and if I plug it in and unplug it multiple times, really quickly, the kernel dies.
[05:29] <caminomaster> nikhgupta, so I wander if it's better to just move files as root or as my user
[05:29] <k4r1m> I have a file that I own and can change permission of but for some reason I'm not able to remove it.. keep getting rm errors even with -f? any ideas?
[05:30] <Abhijit> hi
[05:30] <caminomaster> which option will affect lless my data
[05:30] <Abhijit> where does rhythmbox stores the saved radio station file?
[05:30] <wiesshund> k4r1m, what errors?
[05:31] <skilz> how can I set my system to connect to wifi(internet) and eth0(share) during boot without having to login
[05:31] <k4r1m> wiesshund: http://pastebin.com/8exPs0vg
[05:32] <Abhijit> skilz, it will connect to eth0 without login
[05:32] <skilz> ok but what about wlan0
[05:32] <k4r1m> wiesshund: don't really understand, I'm the owner of the file
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> !ics | skilz
[05:32] <nikhgupta> caminomaster, I would say if possible move the two things in separate shifts.. so you know which ones are which and move accordingly.
[05:32] <nikhgupta> if thats possible.
[05:32] <wiesshund> k4r1m,  if file is not in use by anything did you try sudo rm -f  ?
[05:33] <dtchen> DanaG: that's...awesome? (about the cm106)
[05:33] <Satisfied> is there a safe way to abort a mv operation ?
[05:33] <k4r1m> wiesshund: no sudo access :( might be used by something yeah will figure it out
[05:33] <caminomaster> nikhgupta, separate shifts?
[05:33] <caminomaster> what do U mean?
[05:34] <caminomaster> nikhgupta, yo mean depending on owner?
[05:34] <nikhgupta> as in.. move the files in groups - those belonging to myuser and those belonging to root..
[05:34] <nikhgupta> yeah
[05:34] <shingen> what's the command to kill x in 11.04? ctrl-alt-backspace isn't working...
[05:34] <caminomaster> nikhgupta, almost all files (maybe all) belong to my user
[05:34] <caminomaster> so you mean is better as myself?
[05:35] <Abhijit> shingen, kill -9 -1
[05:35] <Abhijit> shingen, that will automatically logout also
[05:35] <shingen> Abhijit: seriously dude, :P
[05:35] <Abhijit> ??
[05:35] <shingen> Abhijit: I just want to kill the x-session
[05:35] <Abhijit> shingen, amm ok
[05:35] <nikhgupta> caminomaster, in that case, you can create a simple script to list out all files which belong to root and mv them at once.. since they are less in numbers the move wont take a lot of time and can also be done with tar help in script.. later you can just move the remaining files as myuser.
[05:36] <caminomaster> hum, but i don't know how to do such a script
[05:37] <caminomaster> any, hint-link, nikhgupta ?
[05:37] <nikhgupta> wait
[05:37] <Abhijit> shingen, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:38] <ntr0py> Is there a way to get system latitude/longitude in a shell script?
[05:39] <nikhgupta> ntr0py, try finding an api that does it and curl that url afterwards.
[05:39] <stefan_> hello! my networkmanager applet disapppeared on U10.10. Can you tell me, how I can get it back. My W-LAN does not work either. I do have LAN though. I use a proprietary Broadcom driver for my W-LAN.
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> ntr0py: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIcPHTrtcY
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: press ALT+F2 and run: nm-applet
[05:40] <ntr0py> thanks
[05:40] <stefan_> This has happened after Reboot. (Its a HP 625 with 64bit CPU)
[05:40] <nikhgupta> stefan_, ^^ yep. if that does not work you can even try: "sudo service network-manager stop && sudo service network-manager start"
[05:41] <DanaG> dtchen: yeah, I posted comments on those two related bug reports:
[05:41] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/535476
[05:41] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/535476
[05:41] <FloodBot1> DanaG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <DanaG> 3 lines is a flood?  Really?
[05:41] <DanaG> =/
[05:41] <Abhijit> lol
[05:41] <DanaG> er, I pasted the same line twice.
[05:41] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/535453
[05:42] <Erik500002> Guys need some help after reinstalling linux image keep getting a Fatal:Error invalid argument when trying to modprobe
[05:43] <dtchen> Erik500002: that normally means something's syntactically amiss in /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf
[05:43] <dtchen> Erik500002: dmesg can shed some light
[05:43] <Abhijit> Erik500002, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1039016.html
[05:45] <Erik500002> dtchen: dmesg shows unknown symbol wiphy_free (err -22) and another one with disagrees about versino of symbol wiphy_new