[12:15] <bo> Kanotix did its job best compared to all the other distros
[12:16] <bo> but I don't now what Kanotix makes different and how
[12:16] <bo> now=know
[12:16] <gandhii> there are things you can adjust in "system settings"  ...  but if it doesnt automatically recognize your monitor, I'd google that info and plug it into your xorg.conf file manually
[12:17] <stpg> hi
[12:18] <bo> I did a fresh Debian install on my old box where the settings were wrong
[12:18] <bo> I replaced the xorg.conf by that one from Kanotix
[12:20] <bo> this works well but I wonder how Kanotix has detected the right settings?
[12:20] <bo> I mean it's also based on Debian and therefor not far away from it
[12:21] <gandhii> no clue..  i'm just a newb  ;]
[12:22] <bo> no one an idea how it works???
[12:22] <stpg> can anyone explain me how can i download latest build of software using apt-get. where is lib version 5.1-0_5.1.2 and i have installed 5.1-0_5.1.1. How can i force apt-get to download newer version?
[12:24] <bo> isn't it depending on your entries in the source.lst, stpg?
[12:25] <stpg> yes. and i open url from my source.list and where is newer version. but when i run apt-get update & upgrade - it do nothing
[12:27] <bo> how does your source.lst look like and which package are you targeting?
[12:28] <hsatera> is konversation better than xchat?
[12:28] <vzduch> hsatera: you try, you decide
[12:28] <gandhii> i'm digging kvirc
[12:28] <bo> its also a matter of taste I guess, hsatera
[12:28] <vzduch> indeed
[12:28] <gandhii> truly
[12:29] <stpg> one of the entry of source.list is "deb http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe" and i need to install this package http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lua5.1/liblua5.1-0_5.1.2-1_i386.deb
[12:31] <stdin> !info liblua5.1-0 feisty
[12:31] <ubotu> liblua5.1-0: Simple, extensible, embeddable programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.1.1-2build1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 204 kB
[12:32] <stdin> stpg: the latest feisty version is  5.1.1-2build1
[12:32] <pagan0ne> hey, im having trouble with the sound on my feisty box... It was distorted, so I adjusted the "Multi Track Internal Clock" to 44100, now i have no sound at all, and every time i change it, it doesnt stay...
[12:32] <bo> oh, if you have already the package than download it and install it using "dpkg -i <your_package>"
[12:33] <stdin> ^ not a good idea
[12:34] <bo> why?
[12:34] <stdin> bo: dependency issues
[12:34] <stdin> bo: there's a reason it's not in the feisty repos
[12:34] <pagan0ne> any ideas on where to start fixing it?
[12:34] <stpg> i see 8( so i can't install package even if it is located in universe repository?
[12:35] <bo> but I thought that dpkg will also resolve them correctly, but maybe I am wrong
[12:35] <stdin> bo, stpg: that version is the gutsy version, not the feisty one
[12:36] <K-Ryan> Hi everyone, I'm trying to ./configure something and I get configure: error: Cannot find glib: Is glib-config in path?
[12:36] <K-Ryan> What do I do about that?
[12:36] <stdin> and seeing as you don't have the gutsy repos, then apt can't fix that
[12:36] <stdin> K-Ryan: installed build-essential ?
[12:36] <K-Ryan> stdin: Pretty sure, I'll try again though
[12:37] <K-Ryan> Yeah, it's the newest version/
[12:37] <K-Ryan> * .
[12:37] <pagan0ne> so, no takers on my sound issue?
[12:37] <stpg> thanks
[12:37] <genii> stdin Could also be non-debian/ubuntu default settings for paths in configure file
[12:38] <stdin> libglib1.2-dev: /usr/bin/glib-config
[12:39] <MartinWinkler> Cavte
[12:40] <MartinWinkler> Je tu niekto?
[12:43] <bneal> hey does anyone know a good guide for xgl+beryl with an ati card i've tried a couple and no success
[12:45] <jhutchins> !sound | pagan0ne
[12:45] <ubotu> pagan0ne: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:46] <jay__> there's a guide on this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:46] <Ralesk> hi all, I'm using Gutsy at the moment (yeah, I know, bleeding edge) and noticed that nspluginviewer locks up in konqueror all the time (and unfortunately gnash isn't quite ready for most uses yet)... is this a known issue?
[12:47] <jay__> does anyone know how to make the taskbar only show windows from the current desktop with beryl & kde?
[12:47] <stdin> jay__: you can't
[12:48] <jay__> ok. thanks. at least i can stop looking now!
[12:50] <zipper> Are there any msn messenger clients for linux that supports webcams?
[12:51] <Riddell> kopete should in theory
[12:51] <mayeco>  in theory...
[12:51] <Tm_T> it works
[12:52] <Ralesk> used it a couple times, works usually
[12:52] <apetrescu> I can also confirm, Kopete's webcam works
[12:52] <Ralesk> eats my CPU though.
[12:52] <Ralesk> but I blame the webcam :P
[12:52] <Tm_T> yup, webcam eats cpu, but atleast it works (:
[12:53] <zipper> cool, thanks a lot
[12:53] <zipper> eats cpu... as in i need a quadcore to actually use it or?
[12:53] <Tm_T> naah
[12:53] <pagan0ne> how would i check to see if the sound card drivers are loaded?
[12:53] <Tm_T> anything with over GHZ should work
[12:53] <Ralesk> As an addition to my nspluginviewer problem: I just tried downgrading flash to 9.0.31 (or what it was before latest) and it locks up just the same, and it used to work on this machine, so it's likely not an adobe problem (although they're easy to blame in anything ^_^)
[12:53] <Tm_T> maybe slowers
[12:54] <zipper> Tm_T, okay, i should be safe then. Thanks again.
[12:54] <Tm_T> np
[12:54] <nicon_> Hello
[12:54] <nicon_> I got little problem
[12:54] <nicon_> Can smb help me?
[12:54] <Ralesk> ask away, nicon_
[12:54] <nicon_> 1st. locale
[12:54] <zipper> So what, when someone "invites" you to use their webcam, it shows up like regular webcam? Sorry, but i never really used that feature, and even less in linux
[12:54] <nicon_> 2nd. codecs to audio
[12:54] <Tm_T> zipper: in it's own window yes
[12:55] <Tm_T> zipper: if got any problems, poke me, I have fiddled with it quite much
[12:55] <Ralesk> zipper: it'll open a separate window
[12:55] <zipper> Tm_T, okay... i probably will :)
[12:55] <zipper> i dont suppose you've tried capturing the footage as well?
[12:55] <Tm_T> nope
[12:55] <nicon_> Can smb tell me where can i find good codecs do audio (gigabyte m55s-s3)?
[12:55] <nicon_> to*
[12:56] <Ralesk> zipper: the only (decent) program I know for that is on Windows... any suggestions for linux welcome :D
[12:56] <Tm_T> !mp3 | nicon_
[12:56] <ubotu> nicon_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <zipper> nicon_, if you're using amarok, it asks you if you want to install the codec when you try to play the file. Well, at least for mp3 it does
[12:56] <zipper> Ralesk, whats that program for windows called?
[12:56] <nicon_> zipper: I use banshee
[12:56] <Tm_T> zipper: Mercury does record, but also with only 2 fps
[12:56] <Ralesk> Easy Screen Recorder I think
[12:56] <nicon_> And allways when I try to install some codecs...
[12:56] <nicon_> I got problems with that
[12:56] <nicon_> Because when it's playing music...
[12:56] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to fix this? configure: error: Cannot find glib: Is glib-config in path?
[12:56] <nicon_> And i'll run movie @youtube.com...
[12:56] <zipper> Tm_T, that doesnt really sound like its usable then
[12:57] <zipper> nicon_, is that for linux?
[12:57] <Ralesk> it's pretty decent, I've tried some others that made stupidly pixellated recordings even on best settings
[12:57] <nicon_> music stops, and music in utube don't work
[12:57] <nicon_> zipper: banshee?
[12:57] <zipper> nicon_, ah nevermind, sorry. Thought it was your response to webcam capture
[12:57] <nicon_> Yes it is on linux
[12:57] <Tm_T> zipper: usable? for me it was, but I really didn't use it for need, just tested it
[12:57] <nicon_> zipper: lol q;
[12:57] <nicon_> kk
[12:57] <winbond> is it true that next alpha of gutsy will have kde4 ???
[12:58] <Tm_T> winbond: already have, but not as default
[12:58] <zipper> Tm_T, well, with 2fps the footage would be annoying to watch... or so i would imagine
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> this alpha has it.... its just not installed by default
[12:58] <vzduch> and won't be default for a while
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> I'm testing it right now..... I can concur with that
[12:58] <winbond> Tm_T: awesome, i tried to get it working using the instructions on kubuntu site but it didnt work
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> winbond: haven't tried it in gutsy yet... I have it working in fiesty though
[12:59] <theverant> hey anyone have issue with Compiz Fusion where resizing windows too large results in a window filled with black?  Buttons are still pressable, and sizing smaller fixes the issue.
[12:59] <spyden> hi guys
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> KDE4 looks like it has TONS of potential though.
[01:00] <spyden> how use fonts vga in xchat for ubuntu?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> theverant: you have an nvidia chip?
[01:00] <Ralesk> winbond: I just recently reinstalled kde4 with a simple apt-get and it worked on my default user without any issues
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk: is this gutsy?
[01:00] <theverant> nosrednaekim: yupp
[01:00] <Ralesk> aye
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> theverant: you are running out of video ram. I think there was a fix for that... google it.
[01:01] <winbond> Ralesk: i nstalled it with apt-get too but it whenever it tries to boot it kicks me back out to the login screen
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> its called the black window bug
[01:01] <theverant> huh... weird.
[01:01] <theverant> I'll look it up, thanks
[01:01] <Ralesk> winbond: oh, I never kdmised it, just started the applications manually from shell
[01:01] <sjdurfey> im looking to utilize my Gateway Tablet PC in linux and i was looking to find some software and drivers to get it up and running, can anyone help?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> winbond: I have it woking from kdm.... did you follow the directions on the website for beta1?
[01:02] <Ralesk> Anyone any idea about my flash playing issue? :/  I really don't want to have a firefox loaded just for this (memory hog, have to log in to sites with it too, etc)
[01:02] <winbond> nosrednaekim: yeah , thats what i used, from the kubuntu website
[01:03] <pagan0ne> ok, ive tried the trouble shooting guide, the sound card is reconized, and drivers running, but no sound still, i think i may have botched sompthing in alsa-mixer or kmix....
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> winbond: are you sure you didn't follow one of the alpha's instuctions?
[01:04] <winbond> nosrednaekim:im not sure, but i think it was beta instructions
[01:05] <winbond> nosrednaekim: the ones which has a typo , three /four
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> winbond: because thereis one line in beta1 whihc is slightly different.
[01:06] <Ralesk> pagan0ne: tried `lsof /dev/snd/*`?
[01:07] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: i get 4 lines of text, what am i looking for there?
[01:07] <winbond> nosrednaekim: yeah i used beta http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[01:07] <Lopin8012> Can anyone help me find a copy of uspaspi.sys?
[01:07] <Ralesk> alternatively: `fuser -v /dev/snd/*` -- you're looking for processes that are using the sound card :)
[01:07] <Ralesk> good for checking if there's something stuck
[01:07] <Ralesk> helped me a couple times
[01:08] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: so i should kill any PID on the sound card? or what?
[01:09] <Ralesk> what are sitting there?  artsd and kmix?
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> winbond: ok, try using it in a xephyr session.
[01:09] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: yep thats it arts 3x with the same PID and kmix 1x
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> like it says on there
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> to make sure its not a KDE4 problem.
[01:10] <Ralesk> that's what I hage too, so that should be right actually
[01:11] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: im pretty sure it sending output to the wrong output...
[01:11] <winbond> nosrednaekim: i cant do anything in xephyr session , its just a blank screen with a mouse icon
[01:11] <Ralesk> tried playing things with aplay?
[01:11] <nicon-> Can I talk to smb to please for help? (@query)
[01:12] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: aplay -l completes ok, but no sound...
[01:13] <Ralesk> doesn't make a sound to me either like that :)  but I take you did try to play a file too -- specifying a device too?
[01:14] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: i tried to play a mp3 (have the driver installed), how do i specify a device?
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> winbond: run this command "xephyr :2 & export DISPLAY=:2; startkde" after running those export lines  in the same konsole that you are running the xephyr line from
[01:15] <Ralesk> -D, but dunno the details
[01:16] <Ralesk> aplay -L (capital L) gives you a list of names for the devices... this can be used with -D to select the device to use
[01:17] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: Choosing the default sound card: sudo asoundconf list, then :sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[01:19] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: that lets me pick the card, how do i specify what output on that card? ie: fiber optic, coax, or standard 1/8"?
[01:19] <Ralesk> I think that's what the subdevices are for perhaps?
[01:20] <Ralesk> I never had to mess with non-3.5mm jack stuff, thank goodness
[01:20] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: what type of output are you using ?
[01:20] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: yes, but how do i know which its trying to use?
[01:21] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: im trying to play off a normal 3.5mm Jack, i think its sending to a different output though
[01:21] <Ralesk> I don't know.
[01:21] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: choose the output in kmix/switches
[01:22] <winbond> nosrednaekim: im getting all kinds of errors
[01:22] <Ralesk> asoundconf appears to be particularly unverbose
[01:22] <BluesKaj> yeah, it is Ralesk
[01:23] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: just about everythings selected, but unless i kill arts, i cant get kmix to keep ANY changes to "Multi Track Internal Clock"...
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> winbond: but does KDE pop up?
[01:23] <winbond> nosrednaekim: it sais bash: xephyr: command not found but then continues to execute kde
[01:23] <tank> I have a folder full of files that I want to move from /wordpress to the root dirtory, /home/htdocs/wordpress how would I go about that?
[01:23] <tank> from a shell account...
[01:23] <BluesKaj> also pagan0ne , be sure to unmute the inputs in 'alsamixer' , which you type in the terminal
[01:24] <sjdurfey> im trying to utilize my Gateway Tablet PC in linux, im following the how-to on wiki.ubuntu.com, and it wants me to edit this file /dev/ttyS0, but its telling me i dont have permission to, even when im logged in as root
[01:25] <BluesKaj> as well , you have to make sure to choose ALSA in system settings/sound system/hardware/select the audio device
[01:27] <erov> sjdurfey: i hardly think it's telling you to "edit" a device
[01:27] <BluesKaj> it would be nice if kubuntu could get the sound setup more unified in the future , it's actually quite confusing :(
[01:27] <erov> you may want to re-read or have someone who can comprehend it take a look
[01:27] <winbond> nosrednaekim: ok , got it to execute , but it quit
[01:27] <sjdurfey> sorry, it wants me to edit this file: /etc/setserial.conf but that file doesnt exist, even after installing the setserial package via APT
[01:27] <winbond> nosrednaekim: its capital X in xephyr
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> winbond: ah!
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[01:28] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: well, i have alsa selected, however im still not having alot of luck
[01:28] <erov> hmm
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> winbond: so what did it say when it quit?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> I have to go.... be back later
[01:29] <BluesKaj> ok, pagan0nedid you type "alsamixer" in the konsole
[01:29] <tommymann> does anyone know the dapper firefox 2 repository
[01:29] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: yes, and made sure all was unmuted
[01:30] <winbond> nosrednaekim: lots of stuff, cant connect to xserver, unable to open display ":2",kpersonalizer not found!,ould not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, Extended Input Devices not yet supported
[01:31] <tommymann> michael
[01:31] <BluesKaj> cool, pagan0ne , we should be getting close
[01:31] <michaelc> hey tommy
[01:31] <tommymann> hey michael
[01:33] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: i hope, this all stemed from me attempting to adjust the "Multi Track Internal Clock" because sound was distortedly slow, i selected too high a option, and then every time i tried to change it back it would revert back to the bad option.... no sound since then
[01:34] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: open kmix/switches/highlight IEC958 input and mix input , click on settings, apply and ok
[01:35] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: i see IEC958 Output.... no input...
[01:36] <BluesKaj> sorry pagan0ne, output
[01:36] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: and under "settings" there is no "Apply"
[01:36] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: configure kmix
[01:36] <BluesKaj> then apply
[01:37] <djdarkman> hy, what should I do when some systray icons freeze?
[01:37] <Pazy> Has anyone here tried Dual Booting XP on 2 HDD's with XP on second? XP has crashed 3 times today and the last time it crashed was 2 weeks ago. Wondering if thats the reason.
[01:38] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: done, still no sound...
[01:38] <djdarkman> Pazy: XP crashes because it`s windows....
[01:38] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne:  where is this Multi Track Internal Clock ? ...never encountered it anywhere
[01:39] <pagan0ne> KMix > Switches > bottom box on the right side... drop down menu
[01:39] <Pazy> No it crashes everynow and then. Last time was 2 weeks ago. now that ive got it dual booting its crashed with same error 3 times in as many hours
[01:39] <djdarkman> do you have some new USB tool?
[01:39] <Pazy> huh?
[01:40] <level1__> Hi, should multi core processors (smp) run at full speed on a stock kubuntu feisty install, or do I have to install something like an smp kernel?
[01:40] <Biovore> they should.. smp is on default kernel..
[01:40] <djdarkman> level1__: I think you need smp programs....
[01:40] <level1__> djdarkman: what do you mean?
[01:40] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: sorry lag...
[01:41] <level1__> djdarkman: you mean the kernel supports it but its wasted with single threaded programs, right?
[01:41] <djdarkman> level1__: in other words you need programs that are written to use smp`s feature
[01:41] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  channel mode ? ...don't have it there
[01:41] <Pazy> Anyone know what this means: ERROR: GLXINFO not found. Please check your X11 and/or MESA/OpenGL setup.
[01:42] <djdarkman> level1__: I personally don`t think that the kernel can make use of smp if no program requests it
[01:42] <djdarkman> level1__: it`s something like 64 bit....
[01:43] <level1__> djdarkman: I only know a little about OS design, but it seems to me, that if I have two programs, say, the kernel will try to put one on each chip, so they can share the cpu's power more effectively
[01:43] <level1__> isn't that the point?
[01:43] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  in kmix output , make sure master, pcm and the IEC958 playback ctrls are at about 70% ..no more or you'll get distortion
[01:44] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: http://www.euclideanspace.com/tech/pc/shuttle/software/suse101/hardware/index.htm
[01:44] <Pagan0ne> theres a pic of kmix there,all 3 controls are at 60
[01:45] <djdarkman> maybe, don`t know much about smp, just know it theoreticly, but it`s point is to do two things at once, dunno how the kernel makes use of that feature, you can try a benchmark on an default kernel and on a kernel wich does not support smp
[01:45] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne: not running the same soundcard , obviously :)
[01:46] <BluesKaj> <--- AT I- ITX card
[01:46] <allanc> I am going to install edgy, would it be easier if I installl ubuntu first for easier codec installation?
[01:47] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: is it normal for the mute button beside the volume slider to have a red x through it?
[01:47] <BluesKaj> err ATI - IXP
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> allanc: thts what I do
[01:47] <level1__> djdarkman: well, I think the issue is that a good cpu is powerful enough to do the vast majority of things like web browsing already.  SMP just doubles that, but since most people do high intensity stuff, like encoding video, only on occassion, they rarely have more than one running at once.  The effect is, that for this applications, you are still only running at the speed of one cpu, so its not really faster
[01:47] <BluesKaj> mute button?
[01:48] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: sorry, in kaffine player
[01:48] <level1__> djdarkman: but-- you can keep using your computer at full speed while doing that high intesity stuff
[01:48] <allanc> okay nosrednaekim.i'll  just install ubuntu (gnome) first
[01:48] <Pazy> So can anyone understand this:
[01:48] <Pazy> unction: not found
[01:48] <Pazy> ERROR: GLXINFO not found. Please check your X11 and/or MESA/OpenGL setup.
[01:48] <level1__> djdarkman: thats why quad core is so useless, you'd have to be doing 3 things and normal browsing just to appreaciate it
[01:49] <BluesKaj> no Pagan0ne , I don't think so ...try amarok instaed of kaffeine for audio , it's much better
[01:49] <djdarkman> level1__: it`s faster but not X times faster if you have X CPU`s you see, all of them need to access your memory, but maybe that won`t be an issue in the near future, but when doing CPU intense tasks like encoding, you can see difference as you said
[01:50] <winbond> Tm_T: so is kd4 planned to be a default in the final gutsy?
[01:50] <allanc> is it faster to download kubuntu from the official site via torrent or as an iso?
[01:50] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: better yes, simpler no...  dads compute
[01:50] <Tm_T> winbond: no it's not
[01:50] <Tm_T> winbond: won't be default for a year
[01:50] <level1__> djdarkman: good point, the memory is the real bottle neck
[01:50] <Tm_T> winbond: KDE4 isn't ready before Gutsy anyway
[01:50] <winbond> Tm_T: ok , ty, but at least its already being implemented
[01:51] <BluesKaj> ahh, ok Pagan0ne, does dad use kubuntu or are you dual booting ?
[01:51] <Pagan0ne> he uses Kubuntu, i him locked into a normal user account
[01:51] <BluesKaj> right
[01:51] <Pagan0ne> but he wouldnt understand
[01:52] <Pagan0ne> amarok yet
[01:54] <BluesKaj> actually Pagan0ne , I'm a grandfather ...I'm sure he'd understand the complexities if you explained them,,but it isn't that bad unles yer into playlisys and stuff.. i just use it as my default player but i store the music in a desktop folder , like an old windows guy would :)
[01:54] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: NOOOOOOO
[01:54] <BluesKaj> hehe
[01:55] <Tm_T> that's just ugly
[01:55] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: well at this point its for naught if i cant get the sound working
[01:55] <BluesKaj> ..just mention that werd and reaction swift
[01:56] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne , make sure the playback source is pcm in kmix
[01:57] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: it is
[01:57] <allanc> can I upgrade to kde 3.5.7 and amarok 1.4.6 in edgy or those repos are only for feisty?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> darn fancy scmancy sound cards
[01:58] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: its a onboard soundcard
[01:59] <BluesKaj> is there an X thru the speaker icon in the panel
[01:59] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: no
[01:59] <BluesKaj> good
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> allanc: fiesty only
[02:00] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: think  restarting the sound server would help
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> allanc: fiesty is better...
[02:02] <BluesKaj> ok , one more thing. "alsamixer" in the terminal, IEC958 slider ctrl , set it to 70% or so
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> Trying to get digital audio output to work, Pagan0ne?
[02:02] <Pagan0ne> Dragnslcr: no, just 3.5mm audio!
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[02:03] <allanc> There are some things I can't do in feisty.. there is a known bug that synce-kde does not work in feisty.. i hve been working on it for months and nothing workd
[02:03] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  and use the escape key to leave the terminal , that assures  saving the sttings
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> I had digital output working for a while, then it suddenly stopped working last week
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> No idea if it's Kubuntu or if the outputs on my motherboard fried. The motherboard is only a few months old
[02:04] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: in alsamixer it says ICE957 Output, and ICE957 Playback, the playback, i can adjust, the output is unmuted, but i cant raise the level...
[02:04] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: use the up arrow key
[02:04] <BluesKaj> oops Pagan0ne
[02:04] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[02:05] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: tried that. i can adjust anything but that, which doesnt show a volume level, or any bars...
[02:05] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: kdesu kate /.asoundrc, paste this in :pcm.!default spdif
[02:06] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  it's be titled "IEC958 P"
[02:06] <BluesKaj> it'll be
[02:06] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: thatone ican adjust
[02:06] <BluesKaj> good
[02:07] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I don't have a .asoundrc file anywhere
[02:07] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: i have another one called ICE957 that i can mute/unmute, but no volume adjustment
[02:08] <BluesKaj> you will if you type in the Run Command, Dragnslcr :)
[02:08] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- you mean the asoundconf program?
[02:08] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- having a .asoundrc file in / strikes me as odd
[02:08] <Pagan0ne> well ill be back later... food... crabs...
[02:08] <BluesKaj> it's quite common Dragnslcr
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> Really? I don't usually see anything put files in the root of the system
[02:09] <BluesKaj> basically it's just a little helper file , i guess
[02:10] <Tm_T> IIRC that should be in ~/
[02:10] <Lichte> what package do I need to install to get the documentation for Quanta ??
[02:10] <|_ocke> is it normal for kubuntu to give you gui on terminal 9 (ctrl alt f9) and not give you a login on 1-8?
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> Tm_T- yeah, that's what I was thinking. Looks like asoundconf uses ~/.asoundrc
[02:11] <Jmanfoo> Anyone here use a dual-head setup?
[02:11] <NickPresta> hey guys
[02:11] <Lichte> yo NickPresta
[02:11] <Jmanfoo> dual-monitor i mean
[02:11] <|_ocke> c+a+f1 says "Starting Up....." and nothign else
[02:12] <BluesKaj> i found in an alsa tutorial http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[02:12] <|_ocke> c+a+f2-8 just are blank, no login or anything
[02:12] <|_ocke> i've never seen that before
[02:12] <Biovore> press enter on it..
[02:12] <Biovore> or is that when the kernel is starting..
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- the weird thing is that it was working fine one night, and then stopped the next night. I don't remember changing any settings or anything
[02:13] <BluesKaj> updates Dragnslcr ..updates , it happens all the time
[02:14] <|_ocke> Biovore, no, its right now
[02:14] <|_ocke> i need to install new nvidia drivers
[02:14] <|_ocke> so i need cli
[02:14] <BluesKaj> I'm constantly resetting alsa , even tho exit the proper way
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I thought of that, but I don't remember any sound system updates last week.
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> Maybe I should try booting from a Live CD and see if it works
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: did you check out the tutorial on SPDIF OUTPUT?
[02:16] <Theory> f
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- the Gentoo one? Yeah, I looked through it
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: I have the digital coax out feeding the HT receiver in the tv room ..the pc cdplayer sounds better than the old one
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I've already checked alsamixer, and the PCM output isn't muted
[02:17] <BluesKaj> old sony cp95, 1989 vintage :)
[02:17] <mzanfardino> just reinstalled kubuntu feisty and noticed my ctrl-shift-right and ctrl-shift-left do not function as expected (that is, highlighting all test from the cursor to the end of the word in either direction).  Is there a setting I need to adjust to make this work properly?
[02:18] <|_ocke> Biovore, pressing enter does nothing
[02:18] <Lichte> what package do I need to install to get the documentation for Quanta ??
[02:18] <Biovore> ok, I guess the kernel is hulting
[02:18] <|_ocke> its like im in single user mode or something
[02:19] <|_ocke> but in GUI
[02:19] <|_ocke> Biovore, it seems to be running normally
[02:19] <|_ocke> other than that
[02:19] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: make sure that the pcm input is set to analog in kmix , beleive it or not :)
[02:19] <|_ocke> ive never had any linux nogive me login prompts ont ttyS0-6
[02:20] <|_ocke> and this one worked fine before, i JUST upgraded to 7.04 from 6.10
[02:21] <droach> any php-cli coders in here
[02:21] <|_ocke> and my opengl stopped working right
[02:21] <|_ocke> well, it worked in supertuxkart, but not in gridwars 2, and direct rendering was disabled
[02:22] <|_ocke> i had acceleration though
[02:22] <|_ocke> so i used envy to install new nvidia drivers, and it screwed it up bad
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- where's the PCM input setting?
[02:22] <el_isma> !firestarter
[02:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:23] <|_ocke> so i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and made it 'nv' and it works now
[02:23] <|_ocke> but no acceleration
[02:24] <Lichte> !quanta
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <Lichte> !webdev
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <droach> you said x server crashes when you change the driver to "nvidia"
[02:25] <|_ocke> so i downloaded the latest nvidia drivers and i want to install em but i cant get to CLI without x running
[02:25] <|_ocke> droach, yeah it will sit there locked tryign to start up forever
[02:25] <|_ocke> i have to hard poweroff
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: in kmix/switches/IEC958 Playback Source
[02:26] <droach> |_ocke did you post your xorg.conf in the pastebin already
[02:27] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- says PCM
[02:27] <|_ocke> droach, no but i know exactly how to get the video working if i can get CLI mode running without x running
[02:28] <|_ocke> im tryin to figure out why ctrl-alt-F1-F8 dont give me a login prompt and c-a-F9 is the gui instead of the normal F8
[02:28] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: dropdown should have the analog option
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- PCM and ADC1-3. If I select one of the ADC options, it just stays as PCM
[02:29] <BluesKaj> bummer
[02:29] <droach> i dont know why control-alt-F1 isnt working, thats weired
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> Like I said, it just suddenly stopped working. It was bizarre
[02:30] <Dragnslcr> I tried the speakers on my DVD player and they worked fine, so it has to be my PC
[02:30] <evri2> guys should i use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new for my geforce 7200 go card?
[02:30] <evri2> my ide is -new
[02:30] <evri2> idea*
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> glx-new
[02:31] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: what soundcard?
[02:31] <CppIsWeird> how do i change the port of vnc?
[02:31] <erichj> vnc://address:port
[02:32] <CppIsWeird> server
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- it's an onboard nVidia chipset. The board is an Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe
[02:32] <erichj> oh
[02:32] <CppIsWeird> i dont see anything in the vnc.conf or any vnc config files in my home
[02:32] <droach> |_ocke, so what exactly do you need to do that requires you not be in X
[02:33] <|_ocke> droach, i need to install the latest NVIDIA drivers
[02:33] <droach> |_ocke, you should be able to do that in X and then just restart the X server when you are done
[02:34] <droach> using the "nv" driver
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: do nvidia soundcards use the AC97 driver ?
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- think so
[02:37] <droach> nvidia sound cards?
[02:37] <Ralesk> droach: nForce and such
[02:37] <BluesKaj> did you update kde lately
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> Running 3.5.7
[02:37] <|_ocke> droach, when i run 'sudo sh NVIDIA-whatever.sh' it starts and then says it detects im running an x server and i have to shut it down
[02:37] <Ralesk> nForce2 does use the normal ac97, that's all I know (that's what I have)
[02:37] <allanc> is there no means of upgrading to kde 3.5.7 and amarok 1.4.6 on Edgy?
[02:37] <droach> you cant use the driver in the repo
[02:37] <droach> ?
[02:38] <droach> if you use that you wont have to shut down x
[02:39] <|_ocke> droach, im not using a repo driver
[02:39] <|_ocke> i downloaded the file from nvidia.com
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: after updating to kde 357 , i had to reset all my sound settings and the xorg file as well
[02:39] <droach> but is there a reason for not using a repo driver
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- there shouldn't be anything in xorg.conf for sound, should there?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> nope, don't think so
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> I dunno what sound settings I could be missing
[02:41] <BluesKaj> kde updates affects alot of libs guess
[02:41] <BluesKaj> weird
[02:42] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: did you need an asoundrc for digital output prior to updating?
[02:42] <crimsun> depending on the updates applied, it may be a stale statefile.
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- nope, it worked perfectly fine up until late last week
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> I think I had updated to 3.5.7 before then, too
[02:43] <ccc> hi. i noticed the "icon launch effect" introduced in feisty is also the default using only kde-core (and not kubuntu-desktop). are the kde-core packages patched or where is that feature hidden?
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> I don't remember doing anything to change any sound settings. Don't remember any sound package updates either
[02:44] <[L] > algum de vcs sabe como colocar internet no kubuntu?
[02:44] <Tm_T> !br
[02:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:44] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: ok, do the following in a Konsole:  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|awk '/^snd/ {print $1}'/)&&sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state&&sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[02:44] <BluesKaj> yeah , sound on kubuntu is extrememly frustrating due to the scattered dependent programs ...they don't seem to be linked at first , but thay certainly are and one lil wrong setting and arrrrrghh!
[02:45] <xu> ;
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> awk: /^snd/ {print $1}/
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> awk:                   ^ unexpected newline or end of string
[02:45] <crimsun> err, sorry, remove the trailing '/'
[02:46] <crimsun> $(lsmod|awk '/^snd/ {print $1}')
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> So just take out the / before the closing parenthesis?
[02:46] <crimsun> yes
[02:47] <droach> |_ocke i dont know what to tell you, ctrl-alt-F1 should kill X, or you can try booting in recovery mode i dont know if that will work though...but oh well im going to a kernel channel bye all
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[02:47] <crimsun> hmm, you must have a really new nforce board
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> Fairly new, yeah
[02:47] <crimsun> HDA instead of AC'97-based, that is
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[02:48] <crimsun> anyhow, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq*
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> Nothing
[02:48] <crimsun> pwd
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> I'm in ~
[02:48] <crimsun> (make sure you're not in /proc/asound)
[02:48] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, forgive my laziness, but could you explain your problem again?
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> NickPresta- digital output on my onboard sound suddenly stopped working late last week
[02:49] <BluesKaj> NickPresta: he has no audio
[02:49] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: ok, let's just look at the mixer settings.
[02:49] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: pastebin your `amixer -c0`
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Headphone jacks work fine though
[02:49] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, BluesKaj okay. I, too, am using HDA on an nforce board so if I can be of any assistance (to compare settings and such), don't hesitate to ask.
[02:50] <crimsun> NickPresta: really depends on the codec used
[02:50] <Lichte> what package do I need to install to get the documentation for Quanta ??
[02:50] <BluesKaj> good NickPresta , cuz that's foreign territory to me :)
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32983/
[02:51] <BluesKaj> <---- ATI - IXP
[02:51] <NickPresta> Lichte, try http://knightlust.blogspot.com/2007/06/quanta-documentation.html.
[02:52] <Lichte> thank you NickPresta
[02:52] <erichj> man upgrading to the KDE 4 is a nightmare
[02:52] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: is it all audio or just digital audio?
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> NickPresta- are your coaxial and/or optical outputs working
[02:53] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, everything is working fine, as far as I know
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- my headphones work fine. Don't have any 3.5 mm audio cables to test the analog connection to my speakers
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> erichj: they are supposed to be coexistant
[02:54] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, you might consider plugging in your speaks (depending on which speakers you have) into your rear headphone jack
[02:54] <erichj> nosrednaekim: yeah....which is why i decided to try it. but there are like 8 broken packages
[02:54] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: then the culprit is likely your 'IEC958 Playback Source' setting.
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- in KMix?
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> erichj: KDE3 packages?
[02:54] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: or via aumix/alsamixer/etc.
[02:54] <erichj> nosrednaekim: no, KDE 4 packages
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- it's set to PCM
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> KDE4 packages are being broken? by what?
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- pretty sure that's what it has been all along
[02:55] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: experiment
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- if I try to select ADC1 (or 2 or 3), it just stays as PCM
[02:55] <BluesKaj> i think the Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback Source ADC1,2,3 are analog to digital converter inputs, which are the preferable settings for his spdif output
[02:56] <BluesKaj> theres' gotta be a way to make that ADC setting stick
[02:56] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, in KMix, my Master Channel is set to PCM. I remember that I didn't setup analog output so I only have HDA available to me
[02:57] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/85-alsa.rules ~
[02:57] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: then reboot, and see if it's indeed the stale /var/lib/alsa/asound.state screwing up things
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> NickPresta- same here, I believe
[02:57] <crimsun> I need to run; the coffee shop is closing
[02:58] <NickPresta> crimsun, heh. Godspeed.
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> I don't have any files in /var/lib/alsa/
[03:04] <allanc> if I install KDE 4 beta, is there a chance for me to return to kde 3.5.7?
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> allanc: yes
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> allanc: did you already install fiesty?
[03:04] <allanc> I am using feisty now
[03:04] <Aranel> Can someone give me "Need For Speed : Underground 2" installer ? Please, I can't install it :(
[03:05] <allanc> how do I return to kde 3.5.7 after installing kde 4 beta? is that a risky action?
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> allanc: no, its selected from a drop down menu within kdm
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> its not risky or anything.
[03:07] <allanc> oooh.. so the kde4 wont even touch my kde 3?
[03:08] <intelikey> what module does this need ?    description: Ethernet controller product: ET32P2   ?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> allanc: thats the idea
[03:10] <allanc> okay thanks.. you're the man
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> allanc: and thats good too because KDE4 is rather unstable
[03:10] <intelikey> nobody  ?
[03:10] <allanc> do I really have to install xserver-xephyr?
[03:12] <evandro> como eu instalo realmedia ou seus codecs???
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Okay, so I'm running off the 7.04 DVD, and I still have no digital audio. I'm thinking it's a hardware issue
[03:15] <allanc> I'm so excited. have anyone here tried kde4 beta yet?
[03:16] <Tm_T> not me, I have been more pre-alpha tester
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> allanc: I have.
[03:16] <andy__> can anyone help me get my mp3 player to work on my kubuntu box?
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> allanc: no, you don't need xephyr, thats only if you don't want to run it full-session
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> andy__: what is your mp3 player?
[03:16] <andy__> iaudio
[03:17] <andy__> color sound
[03:17] <Ralesk> I thought those mounted just like removable usb memory sticks
[03:17] <andy__> I plug it into the usb port, and nothing happens
[03:17] <Ralesk> hmm
[03:17] <allanc> can you tell me what exactly a "full-session" is?
[03:18] <Tempusflow> part
[03:18] <Tm_T> allanc: to have whole KDE4, not only apps from it
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> allanc: a full session is like what you are doing now. And xephyr session is a little window within your current session that houses KDE4
[03:18] <andy__> other usb devices work fine
[03:19] <allanc> oohh.. so if I am not on a full session, that means that I only have kde 4 apps running on a kde 3 environment?
[03:19] <Tm_T> allanc: more like so
[03:20] <Tm_T> but that's bit tricky ;)
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> thats not hard, you just have to do the export lines right?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> I love dolphin...
[03:20] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: well, actually I use totally different user even
[03:21] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: ssh -X <3
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> ah... that makes things a whole lot easier!
[03:21] <Tm_T> yup
[03:21] <Tm_T> I compile KDE4 for my own
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> I did notice that KDE4 as faster than KDE3...
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> *was
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> *is
[03:22] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: should be
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> Ugh, I'm starting to think it's a problem with my motherboard
[03:23] <m477> hello all i have trouble with amarok when i try open MP3 file then it stop working
[03:23] <allanc> I am going to try kde 4 hoping that I can sync my pocket pc with its kontact... I hope this works now
[03:23] <Tm_T> allanc: nope
[03:23] <allanc> m477, do you have mp3 codecs installed?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> m477: install "libxine-extracodecs"
[03:23] <allanc> Tm_T, it wont??? how come?
[03:23] <m477> allanc: no it is clean system
[03:23] <Tm_T> allanc: that side isn't just Kontact, the base below is what needs to have support for that pocketpc
[03:24] <christina_> Is there a way to import OneNote into BasKet?
[03:24] <Tm_T> allanc: and, that's not something that comes with KDE4 itself, it's more universal issue
[03:24] <m477> allanc: amarok show me link do instal but at the same time it stop running
[03:24] <Tm_T> allanc: I show you something...
[03:24] <andy__> I can't figure out why my mp3 player isn't recognized when i plug it in
[03:24] <allanc> okay.. enlighten me
[03:25] <andy__> any advice
[03:25] <Tm_T> allanc: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/syncflow.png
[03:25] <allanc> andy__, do other usb device work on your computer?
[03:25] <andy__> yes
[03:25] <Tm_T> allanc: my current UGLY way to deal it, should find a way to make iPaq handle ical or similar ...
[03:26] <andy__> I have been searching the forums and found nothing helpful
[03:26] <m477> allanc: so what i have to go ? ^^ to download this mp3 codecs ?
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> m477: run this command "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[03:27] <allanc> Tm_T, does that mean that I should find a way to sync my pocket pc with google calendar?
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> andy__: this may be stupid... but did you try it in more than one USB port?
[03:27] <andy__>  all of them
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> hmm.. ok
[03:27] <allanc> here's the thing, I can sync my pocket pc with evolution and I can use evolution's calendar resource on kontact.. but when i edit the calendar resource using kontact, errors come out
[03:27] <christina_> !register
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[03:28] <m477> nosrednaekim: it coundnt find that
[03:28] <allanc> andy__, what mp3 player is that?
[03:28] <_L> !br
[03:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:28] <andy__> it works on my laptop running zandros but not on my kubuntu box
[03:28] <andy__> iaudio color sound
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> m477: is this dapper, fiesty, or edgy?
[03:29] <allanc> you mean, no usb device come out on the desktop?
[03:29] <andy__> correct
[03:29] <andy__> it does not recharge either
[03:30] <m477> nosrednaekim: sorry but what do you mean?
[03:30] <allanc> it does not recharge? that does not seem to be a software issue
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> m477: what version of kubuntu is it?
[03:30] <m477> nosrednaekim: i dont know about what are you asking me
[03:30] <m477> nosrednaekim: ahh 7.04
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> andy__: are your USB ports USB1.1?
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> m477: fiesty :) ok.
[03:31] <andy__> 2
[03:31] <allanc> is there a way for me to have evolution and kontact synced all the time?
[03:31] <christina_> Is there a way to import OneNote into BasKet?
[03:32] <m477> nosrednaekim: so what i should do now ?
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> m477: run "sudo apt-get update"
[03:32] <andy__> all my other usb devices (phone, camera etc) work fine
[03:32] <christina_> intelikey: Is there a way to import OneNote into BasKet?
[03:33] <m477> nos k
[03:33] <m477> nosrednaekim: k
[03:33] <allanc> christina_, I don't think so
[03:33] <christina_> allanc: Not possible?
[03:33] <m477> nosrednaekim: i supoust it will take a moment
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... depending on your speed it can take a couple minutes
[03:33] <allanc> christina_, most likely..onenote is an MS app and it wont support basket
[03:33] <intelikey> christina_ i have no idea.
[03:34] <intelikey> never used either of them
[03:34] <allanc> try googling more christina_. that's what I'm doing now for you.. I'll tell you if I find a solution
[03:34] <christina_> m$ word opens in OO.o, I just throught maybe there was something that can open OneNote
[03:34] <mecannotread> guys how can i tune or optimize my kubuntu
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> mecannotread: to make it faster?
[03:34] <m477> nosrednaekim: speed of what ? :>
[03:34] <christina_> allanc: I've had no luck with this. Google.com/linux didn't have much of anything
[03:35] <mecannotread>  nosrednaekim yes
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> m477: of internet.
[03:35] <m477> nosrednaekim: ok done
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> mecannotread: hmm.... not really.
[03:35] <allanc> yep, christina, but word documents have pretty much the same formats.. basket on the other hand, has its own standard
[03:35] <mecannotread> not internet but optimizing kubuntu itself
[03:35] <christina_> OIC
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> m477: try running that previous command again.... you can get to it by pressing the up arrow a couple times until you see it.
[03:36] <allanc> I really love to help you christina_ because I am a OneNot e and Basket junkie, but I'm afraid that you have to copy-paste all your notes
[03:36] <adenicio> i got probs with feisty it look like it not saving my configuration good.n when i enter some option it say could not find process unable to create io-slave:read-only file system
[03:36] <adenicio> help me pease
[03:36] <christina_> :(
[03:36] <christina_> Thank you much allanc
[03:36] <adenicio> even kopete gone crazy
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: did you do anything lately?
[03:37] <intelikey> more even
[03:37] <dmuser> Hey everyone
[03:37] <m477> nosrednaekim:  you mean "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" y ?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> m477: thats the one
[03:37] <m477> nosrednaekim: thx gr8 now works
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> m477: what you had to do was get the packages lists so that it could tell where to DL it from.
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: like edit any configuration files?
[03:40] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: well i tink when the pc went crazy is when i try to stop linux for asking me for the password.someone give me a hint to make it stop but it didnt,and i download samba the same night then the other i restarted the pc it went crazy acking me to run fsck then control-d
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> probably a bad fstab.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> or bad disc
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> I'll be right back...
[03:41] <wolferine> trying to vnc into my box, and I just get a blank desktop, i think i am running the server incorrectly
[03:41] <wolferine> what can I do to troubleshoot via ssh?
[03:42] <andy__> I am pretty sure the problem is software since other devices work on the same usb port
[03:42] <andy__> and the mp3 player works on zandros
[03:42] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: oh i tink the prob came from when the person told me how to stop linux from asking the password and change my acount from admin to root
[03:43] <m477> kubuntu cant instal package from rpm ?
[03:43] <dmuser> Does anyone here have any way to fix xrandr crashing whenever I enable xinerama?  I fixed the Power Manager crash...but xrandr crashing eludes me.
[03:43] <wolferine> m477, not really
[03:43] <adenicio> !rpm
[03:43] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:44] <m477> k thx
[03:44] <wolferine> m477 what are you looking at installing?
[03:44] <ardchoille> m477: Note the "the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous" bit
[03:44] <andy__> it works in windows just fine
[03:45] <adenicio> i got probs with feisty it look like it not saving my configuration good.n when i enter some option it say could not find process unable to create io-slave:read-only file system
[03:46] <wolferine> andy__, thats really besides the point
[03:46] <adenicio> Configuration file "/home/adenicio/.kde/share/config/keditfiletyperc" not writable.
[03:46] <adenicio> Configuration file "/home/adenicio/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.
[03:46] <adenicio> Please contact your system administrator
[03:46] <m477> nothing special i just asking
[03:46] <adenicio> this the prob it giving me
[03:46] <adenicio> :(
[03:46] <sammy> if someone, with one panel, wouldn't mind right clicking the panel, add a new panel > panel, then right clicking and configuring the new panel?
[03:46] <andy__> not really
[03:46] <c0mp13371331337> adenicio - Permissions?
[03:46] <ardchoille> m477: Rather than installing from an rpm, you're better off searching the repos or looking for an ubuntu .deb, or compiling. All of these are better than installing an rpm
[03:47] <BluesKaj> trying to split a wav file and I get the error :warning: cannot open 'grand.wav' because it is a directory, not a regular file...it's just a folder ..what gives?
[03:47] <m477> y k
[03:47] <sammy> on the appearance tab of the configure panel window, there should be a drop down list near the top which lets me choose which panel I'm changing the location and size of, but I get no dropdown list.
[03:47] <wolferine> trying to vnc into my box, and I just get a blank desktop, i think i am running the server incorrectly
[03:47] <adenicio> c0mp13371331337: i tink
[03:47] <wolferine> what can I do to troubleshoot via ssh?
[03:47] <adenicio> c0mp13371331337: nothing is saving
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: lets see what your /etc/fstab file looks like
[03:47] <c0mp13371331337> Sammy - Log out, restart X, then log back in.  You'll have a dropdown to edit them individually.
[03:47] <ardchoille> wolferine: Troubleshoot what?
[03:47] <wolferine> ardchoille, why my vnc session is like it is
[03:48] <sammy> c0mp13371331337: outstanding. I wish these chats where logged and indexed and searchable and metafiled.
[03:48] <sammy> *wakes up*
[03:48] <sammy> cheers.
[03:48] <andy__> The mp3 player the cable and the usb port work fine
[03:48] <intelikey> adenicio same thing you can from console   except you just can't switch ttys
[03:48] <andy__> but not on kubuntu
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: BTW, I'm running the KDE4 Konsole from within KDE3, you just have to call the right executable :)
[03:48] <ardchoille> sammy: You can log chats and then use grep
[03:48] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i cant inter it give me an error:Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: what command did you use?
[03:49] <sammy> ha, is there really a freenode server in ballard?
[03:49] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i'll check if i note it down
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: run "cat /etc/fstab"
[03:50] <wolferine> ardchoille, any ideas?
[03:50] <intelikey> nosrednaekim cat /proc/mounts  maybe even
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> or just run "mount"
[03:51] <intelikey> not accurate if root is ro
[03:51] <sammy> ha, oh. it's my best-buy owned ISP.
[03:51] <m477> how to use file .so ?
[03:51] <hitmanWilly> m477, thats a shared library
[03:52] <intelikey>  /etc/mtab can't be updated if root is ro
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> m477: what are you trying to run?
[03:52] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: u want me to show u my fstab?
[03:52] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: its long
[03:52] <hitmanWilly> m477, you don't really 'use' it, unless you're a programmer
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: pastebin.
[03:52] <m477> i wanna instal flesh
[03:52] <m477> so .xpt?
[03:52] <c0mp13371331337> Is anyone in here a 'staffer'?
[03:53] <adenicio> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:53] <adenicio> #
[03:53] <adenicio> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:53] <adenicio> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[03:53] <wolferine> !pastebin | adenicio
[03:53] <ubotu> adenicio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:53] <andy__> back to windows
[03:53] <adenicio> # /dev/hdb1
[03:53] <adenicio> UUID=a6862f53-545b-479d-af15-f20ae1b4f984 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[03:53] <adenicio> # /dev/hdb5
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[03:53] <adenicio> UUID=a8a08d1e-690e-4638-8ca3-1af8925d1d7b none swap sw 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/hda1 /media/AQUARIUS ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,users 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/sda1 /media/sata vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wa is pastbin?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> now you ask...
[03:53] <adenicio> lol
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> m477, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:54] <wolferine> adenicio, dont do that anymore
[03:54] <intelikey> :)
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[03:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:54] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: anyway i allready paste it on top
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: paste it in a pastebin...
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: its easier to read
[03:54] <wolferine> i wouldnt even help him anymore
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> m477, that's the easiest way to get flash up and running
[03:54] <wolferine> for a comment like that
[03:54] <adenicio> wolferine: sorry i didnt know wa was pastbin
[03:54] <m477> thanks
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> m477, let us know if that doesn't work
[03:56] <m477> hitmanWilly: i supoust it doesnt work ;/
[03:56] <hitmanWilly> m477, is it not working for you?
[03:56] <m477> hitmanWilly: i give you more detals i wanna instal Flash player to youtube
[03:56] <BluesKaj> when is a folder considered a directory ?...something isn't making sense here
[03:56] <m477> hitmanWilly: yeap
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> !flash | m477 try this guide:
[03:57] <ubotu> m477 try this guide:: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:57] <c0mp13371331337> BluesKaj: Folders are directories.
[03:57] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i cant even get to the pastebin it keep givin errors"Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: they are the samething....
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: "folder" is a silly Windows name for directories
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: you can't open konqueror?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> ok , then how do put a wav file in to a "file " , cuz the split app is looking for a file
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, he can't even write to his home dir from what I can tell
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, either that or kioslave is seriously borked
[03:59] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: yes it open it say:
[03:59] <wolferine> trying to vnc into my box, and I just get a blank desktop, i think i am running the server incorrectly
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> Argh, now my headphones are going nuts
[03:59] <adenicio> An error occurred while loading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/:
[03:59] <adenicio> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system.
[04:00] <BluesKaj> I have a large wav file that I'm using shntool to split into it'sd consituent cuts ,but it's balking at teh directory insteab it wants a "file"
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> maybe he should get into a live CD.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> instead it looks for a  destination file
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, how did you start kde, btw?
[04:01] <m477> hitmanWilly: i think it is a bit too difficult
[04:01] <m477> hitmanWilly: for me
[04:02] <intelikey> would there be a better place for a script that was essential on a server than to call it from  /etc/inittab ?
[04:02] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: btw?i start i normal.everything was working good untill i try to stop feisty from asking me my password
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> m477: nah, its not that hard really. go to the adobe site and download their .deb package. Thats what I did.
[04:03] <allanc> guys, is there a way for me to have evolution's and kontact's PIM data synced/
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, you sadi it asked you to hit ctrl-d earlier, and it wanted you to fsck something?
[04:03] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wont a cd live restart everything from zero an i have to download everyting back?
[04:03] <m477> hitmanWilly: i just found something
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: no,I'm saying use a liveCD to recover your previous install.
[04:03] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: i did
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> m477, please don't say automatix...
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> AUTOMATIX2!!
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:04] <ardchoille> lol
[04:04] <ardchoille> !automatix
[04:04] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:04] <intelikey> !automatix
[04:04] <m477> hitmanWilly: what do you mean ?
[04:05] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: will it fix the errors and not erase every packs i download?
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> nosrednaekim: you can use it to do that, yes
[04:05] <hitmanWilly> m477, steer clear of it...
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: ^^
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> m477, its a script that tries to make it easy to install some stuff, and it breaks things
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> m477, or at least it can
[04:06] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: no chancess i'll see it system back up will save everything i have
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: say again?
[04:07] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: it even killing my window.window wont start unless feisty works
[04:07] <m477> hitmanWilly: i instal flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>.0ubuntu1~7.04.1_i386.deb form that page and still "dead"
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: I still don't get what you are saying.
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> m477, are you using firefox or konq?
[04:08] <m477> hitmanWilly: i will try download it form youtube page but there is .rpm YUM .tar.gz
[04:08] <m477> hitmanWilly: konq
[04:09] <m477> i mean abdobe flash palyer site
[04:09] <m477> adobe*
[04:09] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, that app is designed to work with ff, you need to make some config changes to konq for it to work right...hold on a sec
[04:09] <adenicio> feisty is a headact
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> m477: you could just go get firefox...
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> IMO, its easier and better thn konqueror.
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> but then again, not all of us agree on that :)
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> yeah..... but for getting flash working it IS easier
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, open up konq
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> I think everyone should agree on THAT
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:11] <m477> but fire fox to needs flesh
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, that's because it only installs it in .mozilla/plugins
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> so true..
[04:11] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wa is imo?its not the webbrowser that given me probs it the hold system.everytime i lauch something it keep saying unable to save config ,its read only
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> m477, no, i can help you get konq set up for flash
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> IMO stands for "in my opinion"
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> m477: yeah, just let hitmanWilly help you..... sorry for interfering.
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, don't be sorry, i do it all the time :P
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> m477, anyway, open up konqueror
[04:14] <m477> hitmanWilly: yeap
[04:14] <adenicio> !io-slave
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about io-slave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <m477> hitmanWilly: anyway this flash adobe works only on fire fox etc sure?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: boot up a liveCD.
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> m477, look in the menu for settings ->> configure konqueror
[04:14] <adenicio> wa is a io-slave?how to creat it?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: and come back here from within it.
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> m477, no, it works just fine with konq, you just have to enable it
[04:15] <intelikey> i'm out.
[04:15] <adenicio> ok
[04:15] <m477> can you tell me where is cfg konq ?
[04:16] <m477> nvm i have it
[04:16] <m477> go on
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> m477, its on the menu bar, Settings, then COnfigure Konqueror under that menu
[04:16] <m477> now i see ^_^
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, scroll down the left hand pane until you get to Plugins
[04:17] <m477> yeap
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> m477 click on it and lookl at the box on the bottom right
[04:18] <m477> ye i have it
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> m477, it should have a bunch of directory locations in it
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> m477, see if you see anything like $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[04:18] <m477> there is
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, hit scan for new plugins
[04:19] <m477> i did
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, now scroll the left hand pane up again until you hit java and javascript
[04:20] <m477> i have
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, click on the tab for javascript
[04:20] <m477> y
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> m477, make sure 'enable javascript globally' is checked
[04:21] <m477> yes it is
[04:21] <m477> all the time
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, then hit ok
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> m477, that last part was just verifying something
[04:22] <m477> what ?
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> m477, youtube needs javascript enabled :)
[04:22] <m477> so what now?
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> m477, hit ok and then restart konqueror
[04:23] <Minataku> Heya, hitmanWilly
[04:23] <Minataku> Seen dr_willis around?
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> howdy Minataku
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, no tonight
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> *not
[04:23] <m477> hitmanWilly: ok but i didnt do nothing so i dont think so that will help dont you ?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> m477: on the contrary... you scanned for the flash plugin..
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> m477, you scanned for new plugins, right? that should have done something for you
[04:24] <m477> hehe works youtube :)
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> m477, told ya :)
[04:24] <m477> thanks
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:25] <ardchoille> lol
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> m477: anything else that you want to do ;)
[04:25] <Minataku> Last seen 11hr 38min ago
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, he's avoiding you :P
[04:26] <Minataku> lol
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, he doesn't want to part with his old computers anymore :)
[04:26] <Minataku> X3
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> j/k
[04:37] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: hey i run the live cd then zqtM
[04:37] <intelikey> what's that command to make ssh keys ?
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> something with key-gen
[04:38] <intelikey> yeah something with that in it...
[04:40] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: hello this the person adenicio thqt had probs zith his pc going hay wire u told ;e to run the live cd
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah....
[04:40] <ubuntu__> n...M
[04:41] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: hoz to run the recovery mode
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> I have to go though...
[04:41] <ubuntu__> lol
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> sorry
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> its getting late here on the east coast of the USA.
[04:42] <allanc> how do I set dolphin as me default file manager in fiesty?
[04:43] <intelikey> allanc update-alternatives maybe ?
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, gpg --gen-key btw :)
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> i'm running the KDE4 dophin as my FM :)
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> it works very well
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: he wants a ssh key... not gpg
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm, heh
[04:44] <intelikey> hitmanWilly ssh not gpg
[04:44] <allanc> intelikey, what update-alternatives?
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, sorry, saw generate key and went on autopilot
[04:44] <intelikey> and it's not just how to make one  i think i can handle that   it's how to set it up   i think i need ot copy the key to the remote machine   no?
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: yeah, I think so.
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> to its .ssh I think
[04:45] <allanc> I want folders to be opened with dolphin instead of konqueror
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, not sure, definately not a ssh expert
[04:45] <intelikey> ok i did this  one time.     i'll see if i can back track.....   thanks guys.
[04:46] <intelikey> if not i can always write an "expect" script.
[04:48] <levi_> j
[04:48] <levi_> can any1 help me with my sound not working
[04:48] <barnaby> tried alsa mixer?
[04:48] <level1> !nvidia
[04:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <mecannotread> levi_ check out the mixer mayby something is muted
[04:49] <mecannotread> I had that too.
[04:49] <levi_> its not it says everything is fine but its not
[04:49] <levi_> maybe need to update driver
[04:50] <barnaby> I had no sound on my laptop till i turned it up with the alsa mixer
[04:51] <levi_> ok how would i do that??
[04:51] <barnaby> open a shell and type "alsamixer"
[04:52] <barnaby> tab around for your front speakers are turned up
[04:52] <barnaby> *till*
[04:52] <word> You know...why doesn't pressing the button on the cdrom drive...give you root privledges to open it..
[04:53] <barnaby> depends on who put the last cd in
[04:53] <levi_> ok no dice it was up
[04:53] <word> ...Me?
[04:53] <word> It happens when i boot up with it already in there.
[04:53] <levi_> when i insatlled it said something about it not working thought it would be easy fix
[04:53] <levi_> an older live cd worked just fine...
[04:54] <barnaby> does it work with any other distros?
[04:54] <barnaby> I had sound problems between puppy versions
[04:54] <levi_> yes
[04:55] <barnaby> some would grab the sound card right away, other nothing
[04:55] <barnaby> what are you running now?
[04:55] <barnaby> os-wise
[04:55] <levi_> i dont understand why an older ver. of ubuntu works fine and it is impossible to get the current release to work...
[04:56] <levi_> vista
[04:56] <levi_> ubuntu
[04:56] <barnaby> it may be a driver issue
[04:56] <intelikey> word cause removing media from a mountpoint is able to halt the system,  and that's not generally desirable.
[04:56] <levi_> so is there someway to fix the driver??
[04:56] <barnaby> ubuntu plays way too nice sometimes with proprietary drivers
[04:56] <intelikey> word sudo eject
[04:57] <barnaby> it's an invidia card?
[04:57] <levi_> idk
[04:57] <levi_> i dont think so
[04:57] <barnaby> they may have a linux driver for it...nvidia is usually good that way
[04:58] <barnaby> look at your hardware- it should tell you
[04:58] <levi_> how ???
[04:59] <levi_> im so new and every1 just expect me to be able to do it...
[04:59] <barnaby> sysytem:preferences: hardware information
[04:59] <word> intelikey: yah..but shouldn't physically pressing the button do that anyway? doing the eject command yah sure don't let me...but the button should always do it :-/
[04:59] <barnaby> don't worry, man. I'm a newbie,too.
[04:59] <intelikey> levi_   lshw | less
[05:00] <barnaby> yeah,what he said.
[05:02] <allanc> help me run a full session kde 4.. i cannot understand this-->
[05:02] <allanc> To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.
[05:02] <intelikey> word   'should' ?  by whos definition of what should and should not be ?      word it would be nice if it did,   but how do you propose to get it to ?      the fs needs to be unmounted before the disk is made unavalable,   and there in lies the problem    if some reall fancy coder would build that into the kernel so that anytime an fs was not accessable it was automaticly marked as unmounted that would be nice.
[05:02] <allanc> I copied the kde4.desktop
[05:03] <allanc> but I do not know about the export lines
[05:03] <barnaby> Does anyone know if there is a peer guardian plugin for azureus, and if so, where what how,etc?
[05:03] <adenicio> how to activat the ption in beryl so they can work?
[05:04] <intelikey> word however for reasons "some obvious and some more obscure" that is not an easy task.    if all write functions were syncronus it would be much easier but all disk activity would slow considerably
[05:06] <word> intelikey: Hmm it would seem that it already attempts to trigger the eject command..but not with root privleges...ejecting from the button works when I don't boot with the cd in the drive.
[05:06] <machinecraig> Say, could some one drop by www.cnn.com and tell me if it looks totally fucked up to them also?>
[05:06] <adenicio> how to activat the option in beryl so they can work?
[05:06] <intelikey> word i assume you mean hal is attempting to dismount it ?
[05:07] <levi_> well i dont understand this i think it might be ATI has an unkown device ??
[05:07] <barnaby> got cnn open right now...looks fine
[05:07] <machinecraig> gracias barnaby - i must have hosed something up locally...
[05:07] <word> intelikey: ...sure
[05:07] <barnaby> de nada
[05:08] <levi_> ok if it was the soud card driver is there someway to reinstall ???
[05:09] <adenicio> how to activat the option in beryl so they can work?
[05:10] <adenicio> how to activate the option in beryl so they can work?
[05:11] <levi_> is it impossible to update or install drivers in ubuntu ????
[05:11] <Biovore> no
[05:11] <levi_> well does any1 know how ???
[05:12] <barnaby> someone in the forums must have an answer for you,levi
[05:12] <intelikey> word yes and when successful that will keep the system from dragging to a stop with i/o errors    but it's still late.   that is the attempt is made because the i/o errors have already started...     granted that is soon enough if successful on read only media    but not at all on writable media   that is if you had something writing to it and hardware ejected it not only would the fs on the disk be corrupt but the kenrel w
[05:12] <Biovore> levi_: what are you tring to do..
[05:13] <barnaby> levi has no sound
[05:13] <Biovore> what sound card?
[05:13] <barnaby> not sure what card he has
[05:13] <levi_> I think ATI but idk
[05:14] <barnaby> alsamixer did nothing for him
[05:14] <intelikey> !sound > levi_ some people find this useful
[05:14] <Biovore> levi_: pop open a konsol session and type "lspci | grep Multimedia"
[05:15] <whizadree> hey
[05:16] <intelikey> word in short,  until the kerenl can handle loosing mounted fs's you'll just have to live with software ejecting things.
[05:16] <whizadree> i just heard that france is getting 100mb connections as standard adenicio , is that true?
[05:17] <Biovore> no clue.. but most euros enjoy 30MB/s standard
[05:17] <levi_> bash: lspci | grep Multimedia: command not found
[05:17] <whizadree> i feel like im crippled with 8mb compared to the rest of the world
[05:17] <Biovore> lspci?  it should be there by default..
[05:18] <levi_> I or L
[05:18] <Biovore> L
[05:18] <barnaby> lspci is not on my machine
[05:18] <barnaby> lshw works, though
[05:18] <levi_> ok I have ubuntu if that matters
[05:18] <Biovore> works here..
[05:19] <Biovore> lspci is basicly standard on all linux systems for the last 5 years..
[05:19] <whizadree> anyway ive got a small problem today , anyone know how to get back a lost eth0 network card what was overtaken by a wlans mac ,,, i got the wlan to go to wlan but now no eth exists now is there a auto find unused network cards?
[05:20] <levi_> ok so what now
[05:20] <barnaby> you are right biovore, it was piping it to grep that  didn't work
[05:20] <Biovore> levi_: try lspci again..  it got to be there..
[05:20] <barnaby> or try lspci | less?
[05:21] <Biovore> "LSPCI" all lower case
[05:21] <adenicio> whizadree: why ask me?i dont know i got only dial-up 42kbits.but this morning i was on windows i saw it went up to 115kbits.i dont know nada about 100mb right now im fighting my mom to get dsl but she cant do nothing because it undr my sister name who never there when u need her
[05:21] <adenicio> :-(
[05:21] <Biovore> well  lspci | grep Multimedia works here..
[05:21] <levi_> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[05:21] <Biovore> my SB0400 pops right up..
[05:21] <Biovore> levi_: this a laptop?
[05:21] <barnaby> i tried that here, right back to #
[05:21] <levi_> yes
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i can see that
[05:22] <Biovore> ok.. your just basicly screwed then.. sorry..  ATI dosn't support that product on linux.. and hasn't release any info to also to make a driver for linux..  Dell is pushing the subject for all the ATI products..
[05:22] <barnaby> i typed lspci and it filled the screen.
[05:22] <barnaby> lshw | less worked fine
[05:22] <intelikey> google hates me...
[05:23] <intelikey> always has
[05:23] <Biovore> levi_: Untill ATI gets real.. you probably won't have any sound... :-(
[05:23] <levi_> it worked fine on a live ubuntu cd from1 yr ago
[05:23] <barnaby> (thanks intelikey)
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> barnaby, the | less pipe works with anything
[05:23] <intelikey> i'm not sure the feeling isn't mutual
[05:23] <Biovore> levi_: maybe.. some do work.. but there spotty
[05:24] <intelikey> pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less       should i use less pipes ?
[05:24] <Biovore> levi_: actually that paticual model is support.. 1 sec..
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, what happened this time?
[05:24] <Biovore> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-ATI <-- see very bottom
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, heh
[05:25] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i'm still looking for a good howto on sshkeys   and passwordless login
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ugh, good luck with that one...
[05:25] <Biovore> levi_: it looks like that card is just a rebrand of the intel HD audio..
[05:26] <Biovore> should work out of the box..
[05:26] <barnaby> I have an Intel card- and that doesn't work on some distros
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ssh is ported from bsd right? maybe check some of those wikis
[05:26] <yarly> how do you check cpuinfo
[05:26] <barnaby> slackware hates my sound card
[05:27] <Biovore> levi_: snd_hda_intel <-- module "driver"  for the card..
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> barnaby, no, the 2.4 kernel hates your soundcard more likely :P
[05:27] <Biovore> yarly: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:27] <intelikey> i know there is one    i saw it before.   just don't know where and i had a system catastrophy ( == reload ) so lost some things...      yeah  but there was a linux*.org/howto   that was good
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, howtoforge maybe?
[05:28] <Biovore> openssh is ported from openbsd :-P
[05:28] <intelikey> maybe
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, linuxquestions.org? was that the site?
[05:28] <olylug> I'm having trouble getting postgres to work. su - postgres prompts for a password, which I leave blank like I'm supposed to, but then I get su: authentication error.
[05:29] <yarly> Hum. My system isn't recognizing my 4th gb of ram
[05:29] <yarly> is that unusual?
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> yarly, 32 bit?
[05:29] <olylug> yarly, are you using 64 bit"?
[05:30] <yarly> olylug: Nupe.
[05:30] <Biovore> yarly: depends..  what kind of computer..  AGP systems can only address 4GB so if you have PCI cards and AGP memory, you down to about 3 GB
[05:30] <yarly> It's a brand new mobo AM2 w/ PCI-E support, I havn't thrown in my PCI-E card yet
[05:30] <allanc> can I use gutsy's artwork in gnome?
[05:30] <olylug> nupe?
[05:30] <yarly> nope*
[05:30] <Biovore> try the 64bit version of the OS
[05:30] <olylug> oh,
[05:30] <olylug> then that's yoru problem
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> yarly, but you're running the 32 bit kubuntu, right?
[05:31] <olylug> only 64 bit OS's can recognize over 3 GB of ram
[05:31] <yarly> I thought there was a lot of conflicts w/ the 64-bit OS of Ubuntu
[05:31] <intelikey> i have a terrably over burdened ppp at this time..
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> "no one should ever need more than 640k of RAM" :P
[05:31] <yarly> lol
[05:31] <Biovore> olylug: well the 32bit can  on 32bit systems..  but to the 32bit OS you look like a weird system.. no extened memory manager..
[05:32] <allanc> can I use gutsy's artwork on feisty?
[05:32] <Biovore> no clue.. gutsy isn't fully finished yet..
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> allanc, what artwork would that be?
[05:32] <allanc> kdm themes, window decorations, etc
[05:32] <yarly> Will ubuntu recognize 4gb of ram or no?
[05:33] <allanc> i mean, the kubuntu gutsy artwork meta package
[05:33] <Biovore> allanc: kdm themes probably.. window directions probably..
[05:33] <Biovore> and colors
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> allanc, yup
[05:33] <whizadree> im getting eth0:error No Such Device when restarting with /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:33] <Biovore> whizadree: ifconfig -a dosn't show the interface eather?
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, what does ifconfig say?
[05:33] <allanc> can I add the gutsy artwork repository?
[05:34] <Biovore> allanc: don't know about that..
[05:34] <whizadree> no eth0 or eth1 at all
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> allanc, won't work, i don't think
[05:34] <Biovore> allanc: dependincy hell
[05:34] <allanc> ooh.. i guess I will have to do it manually
[05:34] <Biovore> yup
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> allanc, you can't cross version repos afaik
[05:34] <yarly> Can I run 32bit progs on a 64bit OS?
[05:34] <Biovore> whizadree: dmesg | grep eth  show anything..
[05:34] <whizadree> hitmanWilly  when i do ifconfig comes up with lo and wlan0
[05:35] <Biovore> yarly: yes.
[05:35] <Biovore> there is emulation
[05:35] <yarly> Biovore: Will I be able to run WoW and VMWare/
[05:35] <Biovore> thats how you get flash working
[05:35] <Biovore> yarly: you should..
[05:35] <yarly> Biovore: How do you setup Emul;ation?
[05:35] <Biovore> yarly: I havn't much with it much..
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> yarly, its all library linking or setting up a chroot
[05:36] <Biovore> I got my old brezzy box thats it 64bit to do the newest flash.. thats about it..
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> yarly, in other words, a pita
[05:36] <Biovore> ^ yup
[05:36] <yarly> Bummer. I'll stick w/ 32bit.
[05:36] <Biovore> well I think wine dose that for you..  mplayer will do it for video codecs..
[05:36] <whizadree> hitmanWilly  , hmmmm ACPI error (psparse-0537) node bade header (node df8072d4)
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> the funny thing about multiarch is that the childproofing in ubuntu actually makes it harder
[05:37] <Biovore> whizadree: Mob o on the way out?
[05:37] <whizadree> nope
[05:37] <Biovore> Is it a new mobo?
[05:37] <whizadree> but hold on i might have an idea
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, have you been fiddling with bios settings lately?
[05:37] <whizadree> let me try resetting the bios
[05:37] <Biovore> ^ that could be it as well
[05:37] <yarly> !ACPI
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <yarly> bah
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, or manually setting IRQ's?
[05:38] <whizadree> heh
[05:38] <yarly> ACPI basically is your power settings w/ your BIOS
[05:38] <yarly> in a very small nutshell
[05:38] <Biovore> ACPI -- Advanced Configuration and Power Interface.
[05:38] <yarly> So, just because my system doesn't recognize that there is 4gb does that mean it will never, ever use the last gig?
[05:38] <yarly> ^ that too
[05:39] <Biovore> yup.. you can't address it with out an extenned memory manager.. 64bit processor don't have those..
[05:39] <Biovore> there not needed on a 64bit OS..
[05:39] <yarly> How do I get an extended memory manager/
[05:39] <Biovore> it in the chip..
[05:40] <Biovore> not software..
[05:40] <Biovore> Most 32bit processors have a 48bit memory addressing scheme
[05:40] <whizadree> hitmanWilly  : would it matter if i just completly turn ACPI function off?
[05:40] <Biovore> (I think)
[05:42] <adenicio> how do i log in to ubuntu effects?
[05:42] <Biovore> the Irc Channel?
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, you could try it
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, ive had mixed results when disabling acpi
[05:45] <whizadree> hitmanWilly : ok that error message is gone and left with wlan0 using the correct driver nothing else
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, have you tried lshw to see if the card is even seen?
[05:49] <elite101> just came back from Defcon15 it was great
[05:49] <elite101> lol i wish***
[05:50] <elite101> is solaris any good? my friend orderd the DVD and it came today he doesnt want it, i thought i would give it a try? anything i should be aware of?
[05:51] <gandhii> kind of hitting a wall with setting up this kubuntu box as a samba server...  server shows up.. shares show up..  but when I click on one.. i get "unable to create io-slave" error from with the kubuntu box.. and a general "not accessible" error from the windows box.    any ideas?
[05:51] <gandhii> got it set up to turn all users to one user that is set up as owner as well as access...  and with accesss to the share
[05:51] <gandhii> what am i missing?
[05:52] <whizadree> hitmanWilly : well it was see on first install . i downloaded all the updates using it then the wlan kicked in and bam see ya eth0 ... anyway the test result for lshw is a negative .... !network - wireless interface only
[05:52] <DamnSL>  I have a question, where can I get an Older Version of Kubuntu that supports 800x600 Resolution as its standard setting
[05:53] <elite101> 6.06? im using it on 800x600 and it works fine
[05:53] <DamnSL> hmmm
[05:53] <elite101> and it supports 1024x860 and works good too
[05:53] <DamnSL> well
[05:53] <elite101> shouldnt all the kubunt distro's use that setting?
[05:53] <DamnSL> I ran a live CD with 6.06 but some type of error stopped the boot up
[05:53] <Biovore> DamnSL: its a xorg configuration..
[05:54] <DamnSL> xorg?
[05:54] <whizadree> do you have ati?
[05:54] <Biovore> thats the thing that does the graphics..
[05:54] <DamnSL> yeah
[05:54] <miles> hello all
[05:54] <whizadree> its that ATI problem
[05:54] <DamnSL> you mean the model?
[05:54] <miles> question - does anyone here program in C?
[05:55] <Biovore> yes
[05:55] <miles> do you have a preferred ide?  currently using kate + gcc
[05:55] <Biovore> thats what I use.. or Vim and gcc
[05:55] <miles> oic
[05:55] <miles> ok
[05:55] <whizadree> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI might be something of use it was with me
[05:55] <miles> !C
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <Biovore> there is also kdevelop..
[05:55] <DamnSL> ok
[05:55] <DamnSL> whizadree
[05:56] <miles> yea, i got that from the repos, i didnt really like it
[05:56] <Biovore> miles: yeah.. I do most everything from the command line anyway..  if you know how to write MakeFiles and or use cmake.. life is simpler that way..
[05:58] <Biovore> miles: also doing that way makes it more portable..
[05:58] <Biovore> It makes you development requirements simple..  A text editor and gcc and friends.. which everyone has..
[05:59] <whizadree> no sign of the eth0 anywhere
[06:00] <Biovore> whizadree: dosn't show up in dmesg?
[06:00] <whizadree> nope
[06:00] <Biovore> does it show up in lspci?
[06:00] <whizadree> im going thru the logs
[06:01] <whizadree> ok im going nuts (someone has stolen my onboard network card , who done it :-P
[06:01] <Biovore> whizadree: if it doesn't show up in ether dmesg or lspci,  I say you got a hardware issue (check bios)
[06:02] <whizadree> looks like its a bios ( i hope ) issue
[06:02] <Biovore> well alot of the onboard stuff can be disabled in the bios..
[06:02] <Biovore> anyway off to bed with me.. night guys
[06:03] <whizadree> gnite tnx btw
[06:04] <miles> bye
[06:05] <miles> kate + gcc = crazytown
[06:08] <elite101> i gotta get to bed too, its like 11:58 :P
[06:08] <elite101> nite
[06:08] <whizadree> 12:09
[06:08] <whizadree> by atomic
[06:15] <yanchao>
[06:15] <miles> !time
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Carutsu> is that chinesse?
[06:17] <Carutsu> !ch | yanchao
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <w|nb0nD> is 7900gt a good card for the 3d desktop?
[06:19] <yanchao> yes
[06:21] <Carutsu> !cn
[06:21] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:21] <Carutsu> !cn| yanchao
[06:21] <ubotu> yanchao: please see above
[06:21] <Carutsu> i had to search the ISO code
[06:21] <Carutsu> :P
[06:22] <family> help?
[06:23] <tank> anyone have any experence getting boinc to run on a shell?
[06:23] <tank> ubuntu server...
[06:23] <yanchao> thanks
[06:23] <Carutsu> yanchao: no problem
[06:23] <underdog5004> family, what's the problem?
[06:24] <Carutsu> tank no, but you can check the manual by "man boinc_client"
[06:24] <squaretro> screen resolution
[06:24] <squaretro> cant change it
[06:24] <tank> ya I know
[06:24] <tank> I just need someone who knows a little bit about it I think...man isnt very detailed
[06:24] <underdog5004> squaretro, have you tried going through kmenu > system settings> Display settings?
[06:24] <underdog5004> try that
[06:25] <squaretro> it was something else and then i could change it changed it to 1024x768 then it went to 640 when i started back up
[06:25] <underdog5004> ah
[06:25] <squaretro> yes
[06:25] <squaretro> it wont let me change it
[06:25] <underdog5004> do this: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste it to pastebin, please
[06:27] <underdog5004> squaretro, do you understand?
[06:27] <squaretro> i think so
[06:28] <squaretro> open the file with kate?
[06:28] <underdog5004> yes, please
[06:28] <squaretro> k
[06:28] <squaretro> got it
[06:29] <underdog5004> now copy/paste it to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:29] <underdog5004> then give me the address, please
[06:29] <ZeroTolerance> Anyone know of a client similiar to limewire that isnt java based?
[06:29] <underdog5004> ZeroTolerance, bittorrent: rtorrent, ktorrent, ctorrent
[06:29] <squaretro> alright workin on it
[06:30] <underdog5004> squaretro, ok, no rush
[06:30] <dickm35> Anyone use Kubuntu for small buisness? Everyone likes it better than ubuntu/They like the KDE bit
[06:30] <Aranel> I need a program for extracting ".uha" files, can anyone help me
[06:30] <underdog5004> dickm35, I've used it in a business before...
[06:30] <underdog5004> Aranel, just google .uha
[06:30] <squaretro> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/33006/
[06:31] <underdog5004> squaretro, ok, working on it
[06:31] <ZeroTolerance> No torrents, Im looking for something more p2p file sharing based.
[06:31] <dickm35> underdog> all okay ??
[06:31] <underdog5004> dickm35, yeah, no problem...I didn't use any "business" type programs, though
[06:32] <dickm35> This is just small stuff and my Wife does the letters etc.
[06:32] <underdog5004> squaretro, you've got two options.
[06:32] <squaretro> k
[06:32] <underdog5004> dickm35, yeah, there're money management programs, similar to quickbooks, etc...
[06:33] <underdog5004> squaretro, you can manually edit your xorg.conf to reflect the changes you want, basically adding in resolutions you want
[06:33] <squaretro> alright
[06:33] <dickm35> Sounds good, I am a software engineer so I can link etc
[06:34] <underdog5004> or, you can just log out, log in again as a console only deal, and do sudo dpkg --configure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <underdog5004> dickm35, cool
[06:34] <squaretro> alright that one souds easier
[06:34] <squaretro> the second option i mean
[06:34] <underdog5004> it was the "just" that did it, huh?
[06:34] <underdog5004> lol
[06:34] <squaretro> yep
[06:35] <underdog5004> have fun
[06:35] <squaretro> o n that the computer will ask me what i wan to do
[06:35] <underdog5004> actually, wait
[06:35] <squaretro> i hope
[06:35] <squaretro> ?
[06:35] <underdog5004> sudo dpkg --configure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:35] <underdog5004> that way you only need to select the driver (leave that alone) and the resolutions you want
[06:36] <underdog5004> Space selects an option, arrow keys to move, enter to accept
[06:36] <squaretro> so dont mess w/ the driver?
[06:36] <underdog5004> squaretro, nah, it should be ok
[06:36] <underdog5004> are you on feisty?
[06:36] <squaretro> yeah
[06:37] <dickm35> Okay guys will be at it on my desktop in about 4 or 5 hours Thanks
[06:37] <underdog5004> squaretro, yeah, it'll be fine, just hit enter on the first screen
[06:37] <underdog5004> have fun!
[06:37] <Aranel> underdog5004:  i searched in google but i can't find anything ?
[06:37] <underdog5004> Aranel, where did you get the file?
[06:38] <Aranel> underdog5004: oyun-arsivi.com - Turkish.
[06:38] <underdog5004> Aranel, hmm, never heard of that type before...what's it for?
[06:38] <Aranel> underdog5004: Game :)
[06:39] <underdog5004> hmm...may be a proprietary format...try unzip filename.uha
[06:39] <abel> sorry, compizfusion works in ubuntustudio?
[06:41] <Aranel> underdog5004: won't work :)
[06:41] <underdog5004> Aranel, I have no idea, sorry
[06:43] <hangthedj> its uharc compression thats barely ever used.
[06:44] <mrksbrd> does anyone know a web site where they have a list of different desktop sessions avail for d/l???
[06:44] <hangthedj> search for uharc on www.google.com/linux
[06:53] <whizadree> hey ppl i just found this http://www.mylittleubuntuguide.com/live-dvd/
[06:53] <underdog5004> whizadree, ummm, left field much?
[06:54] <whizadree> under ... lfm?
[06:55] <underdog5004> that came out of nowhere
[06:55] <whizadree> im darn supper happy :)
[06:55] <whizadree> if this dvd works ALL my problems are solved
[06:55] <whizadree> and some ATI ppl to
[06:55] <underdog5004> I don't tend to download linux isos from 3rd parties...kinda sketchy
[06:56] <underdog5004> squaretro, how'd it go?
[06:56] <whizadree> true , but just to get a visual x on my dell would be a good start
[06:56] <squaretro> it tells me xserver-org is already configured
[06:57] <underdog5004> whizadree, lol
[06:57] <underdog5004> squaretro, hmmm
[06:57] <hangthedj> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=169309 (i found this for a uha work around.
[06:57] <underdog5004> squaretro, h/o, lemme look around...
[06:57] <squaretro> k thanx
[06:58] <underdog5004> squaretro, I'll paste my xorg.conf, you can see the format that the settings are in (I'll bold them)
[06:59] <squaretro> cool thanx
[07:01] <dfrey> Why is it that when I open a video in kaffeine, the progress bar moves along quickly, but there is no sound or video?
[07:02] <underdog5004> squaretro, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/33012/
[07:02] <underdog5004> dfrey, you don't have the right codecs for it
[07:02] <squaretro> thanx alot
[07:02] <underdog5004> try vlc
[07:02] <underdog5004> squaretro, np
[07:03] <whizadree> underdog5004  do you know how an onboard network card could vannish ( and no sign of a control in bios )
[07:03] <underdog5004> whizadree, ummm, bad card? try lspci  | grep Network to see if it's really vanished
[07:03] <underdog5004> or ifconfig -a
[07:03] <dfrey> underdog5004: hmm,  I installed w32codecs, so I thought I should be ok
[07:04] <underdog5004> there are more, ha ha
[07:04] <underdog5004> !gstreamer-plugin
[07:04] <whizadree> yeah tried that udog nothing there
[07:04] <underdog5004> whizadree, weird, try popping in a different ethernet cafd
[07:04] <underdog5004> card
[07:04] <whizadree> onboard
[07:04] <underdog5004> dfrey, google around for gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[07:04] <whizadree> lights on
[07:05] <underdog5004> whizadree, hmmm
[07:05] <underdog5004> whizadree, what does ifconfig -a reveal?
[07:06] <whizadree> my wlan that did take over eth0 before it vannished and the loopback lo
[07:06] <underdog5004> whizadree, pastebin it, please
[07:07] <whizadree> different pc
[07:08] <squaretro> hey mines got a @60 after the 640x480 for the hertz do i need to do that to ever resolution? and i think before it was at 85
[07:08] <underdog5004> whizadree, do you have access to it?
[07:08] <whizadree> yup
[07:08] <squaretro> k
[07:08] <underdog5004> squaretro, stay with 60 to start out with, once you get the res up, then fiddle with the refresh rate
[07:08] <squaretro> k
[07:09] <underdog5004> after every change you make/save, you need to hit control-alt-backspace. this will restart the xserver and apply the changes
[07:09] <underdog5004> whizadree, could you ifconfig -a > file.txt and move that file onto your computer via usb drive and pastebin the output for me?
[07:09] <underdog5004> whizadree, also, try sudo ifup eth0
[07:10] <underdog5004> and do this : cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep eth0
[07:11] <underdog5004> guys, I gotta go to a party...if you have questions, ask someone knowledgable (admiral_chicago, Junato, genii) or email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:11] <underdog5004> bye
[07:11] <whizadree> h/o
[07:11] <underdog5004> yes...?
[07:12] <whizadree> timehub is me
[07:12] <underdog5004>  ok, leaving now
[07:12] <whizadree> ill email you the info
[07:12] <adenicio> anyonethere?
[07:12] <whizadree> adenicio did u get it working?
[07:13] <adenicio> whizadree: get wat working?
[07:13] <whizadree> waz it u with the graphic card prob or was that some1 else
[07:14] <adenicio> whizadree: beryl?no the things are not working win the windows go up in flames etc
[07:15] <adenicio> whizadree: do u know how to activat the effects with beryl?
[07:15] <adenicio> how to activat the effects with beryl?
[07:15] <whizadree> well im trying to get a working X 1st on this dell
[07:16] <LinuxAddict> wow offtopic chat is dead
[07:17] <whizadree> heh
[07:17] <whizadree> movng h/o
[07:17] <LinuxAddict> When I try to run Beryl is says xcomposite extension     :failed
[07:18] <LinuxAddict> any ideas?
[07:18] <LinuxAddict> then says Beryl: No composite extension
[07:18] <elite101> hey how much Videoram is the current highest on the market now?
[07:18] <elite101> i have seen 320Mb by nvidia 8800GTx is there a 512mb ram yet?
[07:19] <elite101> anyone? know
[07:20] <dfrey> underdog5004: I take it I need to do more than just uncomment the multiverse line in /etc/apt/sources.list in order to get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[07:20] <holycow> dfrey: sudo apt-get update first
[07:20] <holycow> then search and install
[07:21] <LinuxAddict> Beryl: No composite extension when i try to run it from konsole, any ideas what it means?
[07:21] <dfrey> holycow: it's still not there...
[07:23] <holycow> dfrey: apt-cache search gstreamer plugins multiverse
[07:23] <holycow> notice thereare more than one in that category
[07:26] <dfrey> I see
[07:27] <adenicio> is linux more protected then windows from hackers?
[07:27] <holycow> yes
[07:27] <holycow> but
[07:27] <squaretro> the module monitor and display could not be loaded i must have messed up... bad
[07:27] <holycow> linux gives you a VERY BIG gun to shoot your self in the foot with
[07:28] <holycow> you can easily make your self hackable and that is true  for any os
[07:28] <holycow> but on linux you are HIGHLY encouraged by the whole community to learn about security and how to use a system properly
[07:28] <holycow> on windows you are taught that the customer is always right an dyou can remain an idiot for all your life and that is okay
[07:29] <adenicio> lol
[07:29] <whizadree> thats why i sit behind a router then a firewall then a linux firewall
[07:29] <holycow> i don't speak for the community, but it's my observarion that willing idiots are not exctly welcomed with open arms
[07:29] <holycow> whizadree: bingo
[07:30] <holycow> but make an effort to learn and better your self, oh yeah, thats super cool :)
[07:31] <adenicio> my system is not protected good then.thist the 5th time someone try to conetc on my thing asking me if i will let them too and also use my mouse n keyboard tru samba
[07:31] <holycow> adenicio: the moral of the story is while 'yes' you are essentially getting a tank for free that is maintained for you by the community, security relies heavily on social variables of which  you are in control and have direct effect on.  thus you control how secure linux is in the end.
[07:31] <whizadree> another good tip for any known ports that are always tried for hack attempt fwd them to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:32] <holycow> they can'tuse your mouse through samba
[07:32] <holycow> and yes people will try to trick you
[07:32] <holycow> and yes people will try to connect to your system without asking
[07:32] <holycow> there are a lot of things you can do to secure your self
[07:32] <whizadree> should of seen the apache logs trying to find ways in
[07:33] <holycow> adaptr: so for example are you behind a router of some kind right now?
[07:33] <adenicio> whizadree: how to fwd them?
[07:33] <holycow> if not i strongly recommend you get one as soon as possible
[07:33] <holycow> its the easiest thing to put up a barrier between you and the outside
[07:33] <whizadree> adenicio: you have a router?
[07:34] <adenicio> nope
[07:34] <holycow> adenicio: you shouldn't have too much to worry about ... get one as soon as you can tho
[07:35] <adenicio> okidoki
[07:35] <whizadree> could you setup kub' to be a router?
[07:35] <holycow> yes
[07:35] <holycow> its pretty complicated and you need to know about networking
[07:35] <adenicio> !kub
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <holycow> a router just lets you focus on hiding to start off with
[07:36] <whizadree> yeah then your messing around with iptables n stuff then you loose your way on the yelo brick rd
[07:36] <adenicio> how to activat the options in beryl to take affects?
[07:37] <adenicio> llol
[07:38] <squaretro> help?again sorry
[07:40] <yarly> Any suggestions for where to go to correctly setup ati/fglrx drivers/
[07:40] <whizadree> yup
[07:40] <yarly> where?
[07:41] <whizadree> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:41] <yarly> tyvm
[07:42] <whizadree> np
[07:43] <squaretro> anyone help me get my monitor and display module to work again?
[07:44] <yarly> unreg user, thx again whiz
[07:45] <iqzugjhot>
[07:45] <iqzugjhot> ...
[07:46] <iqzugjhot> ~~
[07:46] <Kenny> is anybody here~~~~~~~
[07:49] <adenicio> no
[07:50] <whizadree> anyone used project looking glass?
[07:53] <adenicio> holycow: how u get to know i got one open?
[07:54] <holycow> because your not behind a router your system is visible to anyone
[07:54] <holycow> a computer is supposed to do that, when you enable a service on the network it lets people see it
[07:57] <holycow> chances are you also have a windows  box around for file sharing, thats why your samba is turned on, i would actually worry about that box first
[07:57] <holycow> hehe
[07:57] <adenicio> holycow: yea but out of all does people its mine u found that easy.wa u did type my name?
[07:57] <ubuntu__> whats the module name to give me write access to an ntfs partition?
[07:57] <holycow> just use a portscanner tool
[07:58] <ubuntu__> anyone?
[07:58] <whizadree> yeah but becareful some isps get pee'd and say you broke there t+c for using one if you type in an external ip
[07:59] <ubuntu__> !ntfs
[07:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:59] <ubuntu__> !ntfs-3g
[07:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:01] <whizadree> whats the cmd to run a .deb file
[08:01] <holycow> you don't run a deb file you install it
[08:01] <holycow> sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[08:02] <whizadree> kk need some updates
[08:04] <adenicio> holycow: is it doscan u does use?
[08:05] <adenicio> holycow: i cant beleave they will put that in the reposotory
[08:05] <holycow> anw, i have no idea, its just in gnome
[08:05] <holycow> why?
[08:05] <holycow> it just tells you what everyone already knows
[08:05] <holycow> you haveto be careful to becourteous as someone said above and not break your network rules
[08:05] <holycow> but it only shows you what you already opened up to the world
[08:06] <holycow> the issue is with you, the user
[08:06] <surgy> will someone send me the diskimage to the super grub disk please?
[08:06] <holycow> it can't do anything you don't let it do
[08:06] <holycow> its kind of like walking around on the street and noticing what people are wearing
[08:06] <holycow> public knowledge
[08:06] <surgy> ?
[08:06] <holycow> if you scan me you will see i have http and ssh available
[08:07] <holycow> no biggie, public knowledge you can't do anything with them either
[08:07] <adenicio> holycow: how do i scan u then?is it from konversation?i install doscan i cant find it
[08:08] <meson10> I run fiesty x86_64, and have installed nvidai-glx-new
[08:08] <dsmith> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3150795#post3150795
[08:08] <holycow> i have no idea, i just lock stuff down i don't waste time on things like that
[08:08] <meson10> i cannot revert to 1280X800
[08:08] <holycow> i just used whatever that tool is in gnome
[08:08] <meson10> My Laptop automaticaly revretd to 640X480 ...and i wish to turn it back to 1280X800 can it be done?..i use nvidia-glx-new and running Kubuntu Festy x86_64
[08:08] <surgy> i dont have a browser, and i need the super grub cd to get back to linux, can someone help me please?
[08:09] <holycow> surgy: you have wget
[08:09] <holycow> how about a url?
[08:09] <holycow> oh and you also have lynx from command line
[08:09] <holycow> you can browse using that if you haveto
[08:09] <Assid> hey
[08:09] <surgy> holycow, whats wget?
[08:10] <dsmith> thats a good question
[08:10] <holycow> type in man wget, its a download tool
[08:10] <surgy> and i cant use a url because i have no browser
[08:10] <adenicio> !super grub
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about super grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <holycow> yes you can
[08:10] <Assid> 1
[08:10] <dsmith> if windows wont boot on a dual boot system what would chkdsk /p /r do?
[08:10] <holycow> if you have command line  you use wget to downlooad files
[08:10] <holycow> if you have command line you also have a browser called lynx
[08:10] <dsmith> would it mes with the ext3 partition
[08:10] <holycow> install it and browse the web from command line
[08:10] <surgy> im in windows....... trying to get my linux fixed
[08:10] <holycow> ah thats different :)
[08:10] <Assid> bah dual boot is so passe
[08:10] <holycow> what do you need to fix?
[08:10] <Assid> vmware :)
[08:10] <surgy> yeah......
[08:10] <dsmith> passe, lol
[08:10] <holycow> reinstall grub?
[08:11] <adenicio> im going to sleep laterz
[08:11] <dsmith> Assid: Virtual box
[08:11] <Assid> dsmith: virtual os
[08:11] <sam_> what is ext3 fill super? any links?
[08:11] <holycow> !ext3
[08:11] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:11] <surgy> i ne the grub disk, i cant install grub onto windows part, becuase windows part is fucked, and i reinstalled onto linux part like ten times no fix
[08:11] <dsmith> Assid: VB is the very same as vmware
[08:12] <holycow> why not install grub from ubuntu livecd if you have that?
[08:12] <arun> dsmith: not really
[08:12] <dsmith> !virtualbox
[08:12] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[08:12] <holycow> and why not install it on the boot partition? you don't haveto install it on the linux partition, and no, you can't install it on the windows partition btw
[08:12] <Assid> oh.. i thought your saying it is a virtual box. duh :|
[08:12] <dsmith> lol
[08:12] <surgy> holycow, i did ten times on my linux partition. but thats not fixing it, and it wont let me reinstall grub on windows partition
[08:13] <holycow> well thats becaused you cannot install it on th ewindows partition
[08:13] <holycow> thats normal
[08:13] <holycow> why not install it on the BOOT partition?
[08:13] <sam_>  what is ext3 fill super? any links?
[08:13] <holycow> as opposed to your linux partition?
[08:13] <holycow> oh i think i know what you mean, your using terminology a little weird
[08:13] <holycow> lets see
[08:13] <Assid> dsmith: which os's does it support?
[08:13] <surgy> well i need the disk to reinstall
[08:14] <surgy> becuase the tutorial on reinstall grub doesnt fix my problem
[08:15] <holycow> what are you looking for exacly any? supergrub disk? whats it called exactly?
[08:15] <surgy> ive done it all day long
[08:15] <holycow> i'll send it to you no prob
[08:15] <surgy> yes and thnx
[08:15] <whizadree> do you have multiple hdd's?
[08:15] <surgy> i have two
[08:15] <holycow> so what do you need  ... .the cd image?
[08:16] <holycow> okay downloading
[08:16] <holycow> i guess  you want me to dcc it?
[08:16] <whizadree> maybe its seeing the boot from the hda(0,1) but the grub is installed on hda(2,0)
[08:16] <surgy> yes please, and a program to burn it/ extract it. im stuck here
[08:16] <holycow> accept
[08:16] <whizadree> take out one of the dsic change the bios to boot to that only
[08:16] <whizadree> disc
[08:17] <whizadree> see if grub works
[08:17] <surgy> and iexplore keeps crashing every 2 seconds, windoze blows
[08:17] <holycow> if you don't have a browser on your windows box ... what do you mean? but you irc?
[08:17] <holycow> you don't have firefox on that?
[08:17] <holycow> lol want me to send that to you as well?
[08:17] <holycow> there you go
[08:17] <holycow> let me knkow if you need anything else
[08:17] <surgy> cant install, only 1 cdrom cant burn cd with live cd in
[08:17] <whizadree> HC got 1$mil
[08:18] <holycow> uh firefox is a single exe installer, you don't need a cdrom
[08:18] <surgy> i need a program to burn the iso
[08:18] <holycow> you re in windows right now, you know double click to install
[08:18] <holycow> surgy: oh god hahaha
[08:18] <surgy> yeah my windoze is fried, missing 1000 dlls
[08:18] <holycow> i have no idea what that is on windows i don't use it
[08:18] <holycow> ah okay
[08:18] <holycow> right click on iso and see if it lets you burn image? no idea
[08:18] <surgy> burn4free
[08:18] <whizadree> purge the windows
[08:18] <holycow> okay lets see
[08:19] <Assid> i still think my hdd is dead
[08:19] <whizadree> reintall kubuntu and use a recover programe if you wanted anything
[08:19] <holycow> thats what you need, burn4free?
[08:19] <holycow> okay
[08:19] <surgy> trying to purge windoze
[08:19] <surgy> yes please
[08:19] <holycow> sec
[08:19] <Assid> okay what do you guys think of thijs
[08:19] <holycow> accept
[08:19] <surgy> thnx
[08:19] <surgy> i hope it installs :)
[08:20] <holycow> there ya go
[08:20] <Assid> i booted up for the first tiem today since i jkust woke up.. and konqueror refuses to access my homedir or the 2nd drive.. i reboot.. it works..
[08:20] <holycow> no worries,
[08:20] <surgy> thnx a million man
[08:20] <Assid> didnt used to happen before i attached my 2nd drive
[08:20] <holycow> yup no prob
[08:21] <Assid> when i mkfs.ext3 the 2nd partition i added -c -c to do a read/write test.. which just said "done"
[08:21] <Assid> you guys think this drive is dying?
[08:21] <dsmith> swap it with another to see
[08:22] <Assid> dsmith: me ?
[08:22] <surgy> ok its burning :)
[08:22] <surgy> hopefully ill brb
[08:22] <surgy> on linux
[08:22] <holycow> forever
[08:22] <holycow> :)
[08:22] <meson10> My Laptop automaticaly revretd to 640X480 ...and i wish to turn it back to 1280X800 can it be done?..i use nvidia-glx-new and running Kubuntu Festy x86_64
[08:22] <surgy> yes forever!!!!!
[08:23] <Assid> haha this is funny.. slashdot article is about dell/ubuntu in europe.. and it has a msft add there
[08:23] <Assid> dsmith: was that line for me
[08:23] <Assid> nvidia-glx-new/
[08:27] <surgy> yes!!!
[08:27] <surgy> im back
[08:28] <holycow> hallelujah
[08:28] <surgy> but my grub is still screwy
[08:28] <holycow> time for you to take the windows drive out, reinstall from scratch
[08:28] <holycow> and move your windows drive either to a removable tray or to a usb tray
[08:28] <surgy> seams like windoze still wants to auto boot, unless i use my supergrub disk (thank god holycow is here) to force boot into kubuntu
[08:29] <Assid> is nvidia-glx-new recommended?
[08:29] <surgy> or to the trash, but for now i just want to make it so that kubuntu is the defualt boot
[08:29] <holycow> for new cards only Assid
[08:29] <surgy> yes
[08:29] <surgy> assid very recomended
[08:29] <Assid> i got a Geforce FX 5200
[08:29] <holycow> surgy: cool well welcome back
[08:30] <whizadree> now destroy windoz
[08:30] <Assid> would it help for that card?
[08:31] <surgy> assid: yes i have an 6800 xfx
[08:31] <surgy> and i use that driver
[08:31] <Assid> hrmm yours is newer than mine
[08:31] <Assid> okay brb.. i gotta restart X
[08:32] <Lopin> Help...  Linux died... Must find way to get linux to boot off of a floppy...
[08:32] <Lopin> Help...
[08:36] <Lopin> Hello?
[08:36] <qin> hl
[08:37] <whizadree> heh just got beryl running making me kinda dizzy
[08:37] <Assid> back
[08:37] <Assid> nvidia-glx-new didnt work for me
[08:37] <whizadree> Assid: try this http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:38] <Assid> nvidia-glx works fine tho
[08:40] <Assid> "If you have a GeForce4, you may need the nvidia-glx package."
[08:41] <Assid>
[08:41] <Assid> check out the apt-cache show nvidia-glx-new
[08:45] <dvm> howto insert unicode data in SQLite?
[08:47] <Aranel> how can I share a file with my Guest XP in VirtualBox ?
[08:47] <linux_user400354> how can i force a certain resolution to be used when doing startx without modifying the xorg.conf?
[08:47] <Ch1ppy> hey, my KDE UI is randomy freezing up for a few seconds.  I can move the mouse, but I cannot type or do anything.  Can anyone help me out?
[08:51] <ardchoille> Ch1ppy: Maybe a dumb question, but have you checked that the keyboard plug hasn't pulleed out a bit?
[08:52] <Ayabara> hi. anyone using the new kde beta in kubuntu? is it stable enough to use on a dauly basis?
[08:55] <Assid> Ayabara: is there such a thing as stable enough?
[08:55] <Ayabara> Assid, heh. point taken
[08:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: yeah, if it doesn't crash, it's stable enough
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> windows isn't stable enough
[08:56] <Assid> exactly what im saying
[08:56] <Assid> evertything crashes
[08:56] <Assid> thats the fact of life
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: so there is such a thing
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> but no one has achieved it yet
[08:56] <Assid> yes
[08:56] <Assid> not even nature
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> look at planes, they're not stable enough
[08:57] <Assid> is water stable ??? no.. its actually pretty volatile.. it evaporates and freezes.. depending on the temperature
[08:57] <allan> is aptitude okay to use to remove ubuntu-desktop if I installed it using the ubuntu cd?
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> but in practive, they're pretty close.
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> practice
[08:57] <Assid> close doesnt cut it with me..  :P
[08:57] <Assid> hehe
[08:58] <kraut> moin
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: air isn't stable, you need it to live, it's close, but if that doesn't cut it, do you have to stop breathing? :P
[09:00] <Assid> nah it doesnt make it to my "stable" list
[09:02] <Kite_DH> hello
[09:02] <Kite_DH> does somebody know what  means?
[09:03] <dvm> How can I store Unicode data(Tamil) in SQLite? I am very new to SQLite and Unicode, Please suggest some links.
[09:05] <Assid> how do i get sudo to ask for password
[09:06] <Daisuke_Ido> it stores it for 10 minutes, i think
[09:06] <dvm> How can I store Unicode data(Tamil) in SQLite? I am very new to SQLite and Unicode, Please suggest some links.
[09:12] <under2x> dvm: unicode is a pita
[09:13] <under2x> dvm: what prog lang are you using?
[09:17] <AscendedDaniel> what's the easiest way to capture video from a camera onto my hd?
[09:17] <whizadree> have you tried the studio
[09:17] <allan> what packages do I install to enable multimedia in edgy?
[09:18] <AscendedDaniel> I have not tried the studio. Is it a program?
[09:18] <whizadree> assid hows it comming along?
[09:19] <Assid> well.. seems doable i guess
[09:19] <Ayabara> so.. have any of you tried kde4?
[09:19] <Assid> dont see any quality improvement
[09:19] <AscendedDaniel> video, btw, not stills
[09:19] <whizadree> ah man im xxxd
[09:19] <Mkr> bUEOS DIAS
[09:20] <whizadree> i just threw a bug into my wifes open jar of food
[09:20] <whizadree> :-/
[09:20] <Assid> hrmm.. you better throw that out
[09:21] <whizadree> is unbuntu studio still going?
[09:22] <Assid> bah.. still gotta install skype
[09:22] <Assid> i woinder if i should use the repositories' or skypes site
[09:22] <whizadree> throw a coin
[09:22] <Assid> i need to decide.. not lose money
[09:22] <whizadree> if it lands on its side write your own
[09:23] <Assid> if it rolls away.. you write it for me
[09:24] <whizadree> if the tax man grabs it before you trhow it , contact microsoft
[09:25] <Assid> nah
[09:25] <whizadree> 14 mins and my bays 1yr old
[09:25] <Assid> the tax man prolly gives it to microsoft eventually anwyays
[09:25] <whizadree> babys
[09:25] <Assid> nice
[09:26] <Assid> happy baby birthday
[09:26] <whizadree> even better
[09:26] <whizadree> Happy Baby Birthday Bryce
[09:26] <Assid> alrite..im gonna watch some hustle
[09:27] <underdog5004> I'm back...
[09:28] <whizadree> hey UD
[09:28] <underdog5004> hey
[09:28] <whizadree> still no eth
[09:28] <underdog5004> bummer...did you paste/email the output?
[09:28] <whizadree> nah been kinda bz trying to stay awake
[09:28] <whizadree> :)
[09:29] <whizadree> actually i havent setup email on this box yet
[09:29] <underdog5004> lol, I was pretty drunk for about 40 minutes...then I sobered up...I'm such a light-weight...I'm going to bed now...
[09:29] <underdog5004> remember<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:30] <whizadree> no probs as soon as i get email up
[09:31] <flipstone> hello, just a little question, are there people that use 64bit kubuntu, if yes, how can i get flash working, if no, i go 32bit :-)
[09:32] <whizadree> try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[09:33] <AscendedDaniel> I have gotten it working in the past with those instructions, on a new install now and haven't tried again
[09:33] <pag> !flash64 | flipstone
[09:33] <ubotu> flipstone: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:34] <flipstone> tnx a lot, i'll try
[09:35] <pag> flipstone, another option is Gnash 0.8.x. It works pretty well, for what I've heard.  But 32bit is really far easier. Imho there's no real advantage of using 64bit yet, but there're plenty of disadvantages
[09:58] <Ragol> hmm... I reinstalled my kubuntu a couple of weeks ago, and now there are some things that doesn't work
[09:58] <Ragol> like can't use konqueror (or any other programs) to save/load through sftp://account@address like before
[09:58] <Ragol> also print screen-key doesn't open ksnapshot anymore
[09:58] <Ragol> any ideas what's going on?
[09:59] <Ragol> this is 7.04 with latest updates
[10:07] <surgy> ok, so anyone here use vmware? or a similar program?
[10:08] <pag> surgy, in other words; if you don't do a survey, it's probably better just to ask a question(s) you have :)
[10:09] <Ragol> yep, I agree, btw. we're using quite much vmware at work
[10:09] <Ragol> at least comparing the time before I came here ;)
[10:09] <surgy> lol, ok, is it freeware? if so where can i get info? my problem is i need a virtual machine running windows98 or newer, and wine/cedega will not work for my problem. i have recently had a dual boot nightmare and wont do that again for awhile, so i came here in hopes of finding someone who has ran a virtual machine emulating a complete os or at least the major parts
[10:11] <Ragol> vmware player and server are free, and have installation packages at least in the 7.04
[10:11] <pag> surgy, Virtualbox is free (as in beer) and iirc it's core is also free as in speech..
[10:11] <Ragol> for server you need some additional package sources for apt
[10:11] <surgy> ok
[10:12] <Ragol> pag: where can you find virtualbox, is it included in some version of ubuntu?
[10:12] <surgy> let me read a bit on virtual box, can you run an entire os on it? for example can i run an entire install of win98?
[10:12] <pag> Ragol, their page has a deb, I'm not sure if it's included in any of the repos
[10:12] <Ragol> yep, it acts like a virtual computer inside your real computer
[10:12] <Ragol> pag: ok, have to check
[10:13] <pag> !virtualbox
[10:13] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[10:13] <Ragol> pag: any experience whether vmware or virtualbox is faster?
[10:13] <pag> :) ubotu knows all :)
[10:13] <Ragol> ubotu is a king :)
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a king :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <Ragol> *sigh* ;)
[10:14] <pag> Ragol, I haven't tried VMWare, so I don't rally know :-/
[10:14] <Ragol> okay, maybe I'll try
[10:14] <surgy> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[10:14] <Ragol> I'm running win server 2003 inside vmware server that's running on my kubuntu, and it could be faster
[10:15] <Ragol> even though it has 1.5G ram and this is dual core with VT enabled...
[10:15] <Assid> hrmm.. im running vmware for my windows xp image.. works fine.. little slow.. but yeah
[10:15] <Assid> Ragol: virtual environments are always slow
[10:15] <Ragol> Assid: yep, they are slower of course than real machines
[10:15] <Assid> you could try a few things to try and make them faster
[10:15] <Ragol> and I think that the main problem is the microsofto server software we have to run on our virtuall 2003 server
[10:16] <Ragol> it just is awful slow
[10:16] <Ragol> on the other hand, its previous version is slow also in the real machine...
[10:16] <Assid> Ragol: pm'd you some settings you can put in your vmx
[10:16] <Ragol> yep
[10:16] <Assid> also.. try setting the number of cpus to 2
[10:17] <surgy> ok what about this scenerio(i cant spell): i have a gamepad that has no linux native driver, can i install windows 98 in virtual box and then use the windows native driver inside of the virtualization? or does it only emulate drivers you have on the physicle box?
[10:19] <dasana> hello
[10:19] <Ragol> Assid: I tried to response you, but it seems that I'm an unregistered user at the moment, so...
[10:19] <pag> !hi | dasana
[10:19] <ubotu> dasana: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:19] <dasana> I am a newbie using kubuntu,
[10:20] <surgy> pag: will virtualbox do what i want?
[10:21] <pag> surgy, emulate a OS? - yes.  emualte a device? - dunno, I'd guess not
[10:22] <Ragol> same here, can't of course be sure, don't know enough
[10:22] <surgy> ok thnx ill play with it and see if it suites me
[10:22] <pag> dasana, if you have any questions to ask, then ask ahead; we will be happy to help :)
[10:22] <dasana> Thank you Pag
[10:23] <Ragol> so, no one seems to have any ideas why my kde can't use sftp-protocol anymore
[10:23] <Ragol> or?
[10:24] <pag> Ragol, does that require any extra packages - if it does, the do you have them installed?
[10:25] <Ragol> that what I'm also thinking, the weird thing is that I've done the fresh install two times and at the first time it worked
[10:25] <Ragol> second, not
[10:25] <Ragol> of course there can be some package missing
[10:25] <Ragol> or some config string
[10:25] <arun> apparently lenovo is going to sell laptops with suse linux preloaded
[10:26] <intelikey> !alian
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <intelikey> ?

[10:26] <dasana> Pag :How do I install printer Canon in KDE ?
[10:26] <pag> !cups | dasana
[10:27] <ubotu> dasana: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:27] <intelikey> !rpm
[10:27] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:27] <intelikey> !alien
[10:27] <dasana> ubotu, thanks for your info
[10:27] <pag> !ubotu | dasana
[10:27] <ubotu> dasana: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:28] <pag> :)
[10:28] <intelikey> is there an alien howto some place ?
[10:28] <pag> intelikey, man alien  has probably some info
[10:29] <intelikey> probably some.
[10:29] <intelikey> man page != howto    but yeah.
[10:31] <Mo0oSaH> Hello everyone
[10:31] <surgy> whats the easiest command to see how much free space i have on a hard drive?
[10:32] <intelikey> hello Mo0oSaH     -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 30.791 seconds
[10:32] <intelikey> surgy   df -h   if you mean mounted fs's
[10:32] <pag> surgy, well; not easy, but handy; df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[10:33] <surgy> well the partition i want to check is sdb1 if that helps?
[10:33] <surgy> the full command please?
[10:34] <pag> surgy, those two command you were given check all the partitions.. so they should both work
[10:34] <surgy> thank you
[10:35] <dasana> Hi Everyone
[10:36] <intelikey> and again i stress   fd  shows stats only on mounted fs's   i don't actually know an easy way to check unmounted fs's.
[10:36] <surgy> ok kewl
[10:36] <surgy> the one i wanted to check is mounted so that works for me
[10:36] <flipstone> i go back to 32 bit, 64 bit is not good yet :p
[10:37] <intelikey> s/fd/df/        dur de dur dur dur....
[10:39] <Joel654> hey guys got some ideas y after editing my /etc/X11/xorg.conf i get a black screen i tryed puting the file back and it still don't give me the login screen
[10:42] <surgy> ok one more question, how do i add a user to virtualbox?
[10:43] <pag> surgy, to the group?  sudo adduser $YourUserName vboxusers   iirc
[10:44] <intelikey> what is this... alien can convert to/from everything except .deb  ?????     only to deb   what gives ?
[10:45] <surgy> surgy@surgy:~$ sudo adduser surgy  vboxusers   iirc
[10:45] <surgy> Password:
[10:45] <surgy> adduser: Only one or two names allowed.
[10:45] <Ragol> oh
[10:45] <Ragol> don't put the iirc there :)
[10:45] <dasana> Pag: How Do I compile and install file from source ?
[10:45] <Ragol> it mean if i recall correctly :)
[10:45] <Ragol> means
[10:46] <pag> !b-e | dasana
[10:46] <ubotu> dasana: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:48] <surgy> pag: ok i added me as a user..... how do i log into it now? it wont let me start my VM becuase im not a user, but now i am, and i get the same error
[10:48] <pag> surgy, relogin
[10:48] <pag> surgy, iow; logout and login back
[10:48] <surgy> out of kubuntu?
[10:48] <pag> surgy, yup
[10:48] <surgy> ok kewl
[10:50] <dasana> log off, thanks
[10:59] <intelikey> well looks like i can't compile this driver....  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38754
[11:02] <intelikey> howto find what gcc built my kernel ?
[11:06] <intelikey> will executing   /lib/libc-2.3.6.so   answer that ?
[11:17] <ruggero> halo
[11:17] <ruggero> ciao
[11:19] <pag> hi
[11:27] <CrypTom> hi all, in dapper/edgy, there used to be a leo (and libnet-dict-leo-perl) package. Is there a way to get it for feisty?
[11:28] <stamen> hi
[11:28] <intelikey> !find ltmodem dapper
[11:28] <stamen> does anybody use powertweak
[11:28] <ubotu> Package/file ltmodem does not exist in dapper
[11:28] <trekdanne> powertweak?
[11:29] <intelikey> !find ltmodem
[11:29] <ubotu> Package/file ltmodem does not exist in feisty
[11:38] <stamen> !powertweak
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powertweak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <nana> bonjour
[11:43] <trekdanne> hello, english only unfortunately... maybe take a look at:
[11:43] <trekdanne> !fr
[11:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:43] <nana> !fr
[11:46] <Aranel> !tr
[11:46] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:56] <Tyro> hey guys i need some help
[11:57] <pag> !ask | Tyro
[11:57] <ubotu> Tyro: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:58] <Tyro> i'm buying a laptop that comes standard with xandros Linux, it doesn't have an optical drive, and i'm not sure if all external CD drives will work, i need the Drive to install kubuntu. will any of these work http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=portable+CD+rom&category0=
[12:03] <trekdanne> Tyro: maybe network installation, if you just gonna use it to install kubuntu
[12:03] <Tyro> what is network instalation
[12:03] <Tyro> install through gigabit?
[12:04] <trekdanne> yea
[12:04] <djdarkman> Tyro: external CD drives work
[12:04] <djdarkman> I know it because I have one
[12:04] <Tyro> even if it sais that they support windows
[12:04] <Tyro> they need no emulation?
[12:05] <Tyro> can you network install through wireless aswell?