[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> jbaerbock: yeah, that can be an issue
[07:43] <mike> Kr4t05: my fault. i thought libdvdcss was in official repos, guess not
[07:43] <slacker2> ebovine: it says theres no such director
[07:43] <zeke> well alright then...I just thought I'd ask my good friends here...but if you're going to be that way aboot it
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> !medibuntu | Kr4t05
[07:43] <ubotu> Kr4t05: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[07:43] <mike> jbaerbock: that could very well be the problem
[07:44] <ebovine> slacker2: That message isn't much help, huh?  :)
[07:44] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Medibuntu is always really slow. :/
[07:44] <jbaerbock> but connects fine in windows, so don't get it
[07:44] <slacker2> ebovine: lol no its not
[07:44] <jbaerbock> have dual partition WinXP there only for games
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> zeke: asking for an illegal product key is not the way to make friends...
[07:44] <zeke> really?
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> not here.
[07:44] <mike> jbaerbock: what kind of card?
[07:44] <zeke> I never would have guessed
[07:44] <zeke> you think microsoft could give me one then
[07:45] <jbaerbock> Broadcom (always fun on linux lol) than and an ATI card and I got plenty of fun to deal with
[07:45] <zeke> even though they no longer support it
[07:45] <slacker2> ebovine: ya still there?
[07:45] <jbaerbock> zeke what key ya lookin for?
[07:45] <ebovine> Yeah
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> zeke: that's tough.  not our problem.  google it.
[07:45] <slacker2> ebovine: accept my pm please
[07:45] <zeke> I lost my win98 product registration key
[07:45] <ebovine> I'm not seeing one.
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you "lost" it?
[07:46] <mike> lol
[07:46] <slacker2> could you send me one
[07:46] <zeke> of course
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> BS.
[07:46] <jbaerbock> www.serials.ws
[07:46] <jbaerbock> good site
[07:46] <jbaerbock> otherwise google it should find some around
[07:46] <zeke> I don't steal any more than anyone else in here does
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> zeke: talking to people in an open source channel, i'd bet you're wrong about that.
[07:46] <jbaerbock> zeke just dont ask questions about bootlegged stuff on ubuntu forum, they kill your post if ya do lol
[07:47] <cabuloso> ?
[07:47] <ebovine> zeke: It's possible for you to look dumber right now, but I'm not sure how.
[07:47] <zeke> It never crossed my mind
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> but you'll ask here.
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i think you just proved ebovine right
[07:47] <zeke> I think you can suck my nuts
[07:47] <Kr4t05> zeke: Everyone else is hatin' on you... So I guess I'll join. You fail.
[07:47] <ebovine> slacker2: Your nick has to be registered with the server to be able to send PMs
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> you do, do you?
[07:48] <Kr4t05> !coc
[07:48] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:48] <jbaerbock> Lol Microsoft would claim we are being illegal by using Linux, and they would try some halfassed reason for it too
[07:48] <zeke> nobody like nuts then?
[07:48] <slacker2> ok lemme register ebovine
[07:48] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[07:48] <zeke> I prefer almonds myself
[07:49] <jbaerbock> Mike still there? Any ideas bout the wireless?
[07:49] <Daisuke_Ido> nice backtrack, but too little too late :\
[07:49] <ebovine> jbaerbock: They'd have a much harder time proving that in court.
[07:49] <zeke> what?...never heard of sarcasm?
[07:49] <Kr4t05> So... Do we have an op in the room?
[07:50] <slacker2> ebovine* Im trying to register
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, i'm sure there are a couple wandering around
[07:50] <intelikey> Kr4t05 can very quickly      do we need one ?
[07:51] <lorderunion> damn. installing linux-source didnt work
[07:51] <lorderunion> argh.
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> what are you trying to do?
[07:52] <slacker2> ebovine* im still trying to register
[07:52] <lorderunion> install the bcm5700 driver.
[07:53] <lorderunion> or compile it rather.
[07:53] <lorderunion> getting a "kernel source tree not found" error when running make
[07:53] <slacker2> ebovine* did you get my message
[07:55] <XcercaX> is Adept manager the popular choice for downloading and installing new packages ?
[07:55] <ebovine> Adept has gotten better, but I still find Synaptic to be more stable.
[07:55] <dsmith_> has anyone ever compiles basker note taking software?
[07:56] <dsmith_> *compiled I meant
[07:56] <maltaethiron> personally, im a fan of synaptic
[07:56] <dsmith_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:56] <dsmith_> dsmith@dsmith-laptop:~/Desktop/basket-1.0.2/basket-1.0.2$
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: xorg-dev
[07:57] <XcercaX> ok
[07:57] <dsmith_> Daisuke_Ido: whats that
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> what you're going to need
[07:58] <XcercaX> does anyone use wine?
[07:58] <ubuntu__> i need am irc channel on openGL programming
[07:58] <ebovine> dsmith_: The *-dev packages are the development files for the package.  It's the stuff you need to compile apps against the package.
[07:58] <dsmith_> XcercaX: I do
[07:58] <Daisuke_Ido> XcercaX: i try to avoid it, but occasionally i have no choice
[07:58] <dsmith_> oh!, ok
[07:58] <XcercaX> dsmith did you use Adept to install it ?
[07:58] <dsmith_> ummmmmmmm no
[07:58] <Kr4t05> ubuntu__: Maybe #opengl?
[07:59] <ubuntu__> thanks
[07:59] <ebovine> lol
[07:59] <dsmith_> automatix, but I hade to revert back to an older version as IE was being a pain
[07:59] <XcercaX> what did you use ?
[07:59] <XcercaX> alright
[07:59] <dsmith_> i need iE to connect to a few servers at the office for remote management
[08:00] <ebovine> dsmith_: That's what VMWare Player is for.  :)
[08:01] <XcercaX> the usenet client i want to use (and also have a subscription to) says that it only works in windows,  but i talked to a guy that said he got ti to work in ubuntu wuthg wine
[08:01] <dsmith_> bah, no way
[08:01] <CensorBard> !libusb
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libusb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <dsmith_> virtualbox is better
[08:02] <ebovine> We have sysadmins that create VMWare images for us, so I roll with what's already cooked.
[08:04] <dsmith_> ok
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> XcercaX: agent?  xnews?
[08:04] <ebovine> VirtualBox looks pretty cool, though.
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> newsbin
[08:04] <intelikey> does VirtualBox require X ?
[08:04] <dsmith_> ok I got past the x issues with *-dev pkgs, thx
[08:05] <dsmith_> i am not sure
[08:05] <XcercaX> no,  it's UseNeXT
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: as long as you only want to run MS-DOS
[08:05] <dsmith_> I've run about 10 different OS's on it
[08:05] <XcercaX> it's pretty awesome
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> XcercaX: and how much are you getting screwed out of a month for that?
[08:05] <XcercaX> and i've gotten to know the people in the chat from the client
[08:05] <ebovine> dsmith_: How's he performance?
[08:05] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido will it run without X tho ?   like qemu and bochs wont
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: likely not
[08:06] <dsmith_> ebovine: It seems fine for me, vista was a freaking hog hehe
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> giganews + pan + klibido
[08:06] <dsmith_> I use it for demo of various OS's
[08:06] <ebovine> hehe.  So you're saying Vista was itself?
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> the usenet superhighway
[08:06] <XcercaX> about $10  ,  it's better than looking all over for a movie or game if you ask me,   and the client is pretty awesome
[08:06] <XcercaX> but it's not for everyone
[08:07] <Daisuke_Ido> XcercaX: oh, i'm...  intimately... familiar with usenet
[08:07] <slacker2> *ebovine i pmed u
[08:07] <dsmith_> two questions: what is Qt and is libmgr needed?
[08:07] <Daisuke_Ido> been using it for around a decade now
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> qt is the toolkit kde runs on, and probably.
[08:08] <XcercaX> Daisuke_Ido   are you using a free usenet server ?
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i have the server through verizon, and i pay for giganews.
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> in windows i used agent and powergrab, in linux i use pan and klibido
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's a really close call on which is better
[08:09] <intelikey> dsmith_ any lib in question can be checked like   sudo apt-get remove libmgr      then if it's needed by something the list will appear and ask for an ok if not it's gone  question answered
[08:10] <dsmith_> ok, I am slowly trudging thorough installing basket note taking software
[08:10] <slacker2> *ebovine, pmed u again
[08:10] <XcercaX> i was using Klibido for a little while,  but when i booted into windows to get on UseNeXT a guy in the chat told me that he got Usenext working in ubuntu with wine
[08:10] <intelikey> see also deborphan
[08:10] <dsmith_> I could use wine or codeweavers to install onenote, but thats far too easy :)
[08:11] <XcercaX> so i installed Kubuntu over my fedora installation and have been trying to get wine to work
[08:11] <Daisuke_Ido> XcercaX: does usenext have an nzb-based client?
[08:12] <XcercaX> Daisuke_Ido    no,  it's a microsoft.net  thing,  i couldn't figure out how to get it to work, i have wine and mono installed on my old fedora release
[08:13] <XcercaX> but i heard people say that they got it to work in ububtu so i am trying that out now
[08:14] <XcercaX> i haven't gotten wine to install yet though...
[08:15] <dsmith_> he is a link to basket notes http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10020 looks like development is stopping, hmmmm. I may not bother with it now.
[08:17] <TheRealInsane> I seem to have a problem connecting to my HDD
[08:17] <TheRealInsane> I just can't seem to access it
[08:17] <raylu> connecting to?
[08:18] <dsmith_> linux needs a great note taking tool
[08:19] <TheRealInsane> rayle: Just accessing my normal Hard Disk
[08:19] <raylu> dsmith_, knotes?
[08:19] <raylu> TheRealInsane, by "normal," you mean..?>
[08:20] <TheRealInsane> The Hard Disk (C:\ and D:\) that I usually use on Windows and have all my files one
[08:20] <TheRealInsane> *on
[08:20] <TheRealInsane> I can't seem too find it,
[08:20] <raylu> look in /media
[08:20] <TheRealInsane> Let's see..
[08:21] <TheRealInsane> Nope, not there. Just my CD-ROM drives and floppy drive
[08:21] <raylu> ok
[08:21] <raylu> do you know the names of your partitions?
[08:21] <CensorBard> Holy cow, Synaptic is leaps and bounds better than Adept.
[08:21] <TheRealInsane> Yep
[08:22] <raylu> what are they?
[08:22] <TheRealInsane> hda, hdb1, hdb2
[08:22] <raylu> hdb1 is your windows partition and hdb2 is your linux partition?
[08:24] <TheRealInsane> hdb1 is windows, hdb2 is media, hdb3 is linux (forgot that >.<)
[08:24] <raylu> ok
[08:24] <raylu> cd /media
[08:24] <raylu> sudo mkdir hdb1
[08:24] <TheRealInsane> Let's see
[08:24] <raylu> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 hdb1
[08:25] <TheRealInsane> Ok, now I opened it in Konquerer and I don't have enough permissions to view it
[08:26] <raylu> ah
[08:26] <raylu> ok
[08:26] <raylu> sudo umount hdb1
[08:26] <raylu> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 hdb1 -o=user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:27] <raylu> alternatively
[08:27] <raylu> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 hdb1 -o=uid=1000
[08:27] <raylu> oh wait...i think there's no = after -o
[08:27] <raylu> i think it's just a space
[08:27] <mm_202> Hey guys, [another]  quick question:  I have an ATI Remote Wonder, is there anyway to get KDE (and linux in general) to NOT recognize it as a kb and mouse?  I want to just be able to access it programmatically thru /dev
[08:28] <dsmith_> raylu: knotes works ok I suppose but I want something a bit more useful
[08:28] <raylu> mm_202, comment out the lines in your xorg, i suppose
[08:28] <raylu> on that note, what is an ATI rw?
[08:29] <TheRealInsane> Thanks raylu, you're awesome
[08:29] <raylu> if you want it to do this automatically
[08:29] <raylu> you should use alt+f2 > kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[08:30] <raylu> and poke away at that
[08:30] <mm_202> raylu: Basically a RF remote (like a TV remote) with lots of buttons and arrow keys for mouse/kb emulation. http://www.remotecentral.com/wonder/
[08:30] <TheRealInsane> So yeah, any way to change the view type in Konquerer to a windows-type "details" look?
[08:31] <mm_202> Im fairly new to Linux, but when I was using Windows, I wrote a program that let me control my music, my lights, my alarm, etc thru the remote, I'd like to have that funcationality back
[08:31] <raylu> TheRealInsane, isn't it in the view settings somewhere?
[08:32] <TheRealInsane> Basically I can't find the view settings
[08:32] <khaije1> so is bluetooth to the point where linux support is as standard as usb?
[08:32] <raylu> TheRealInsane, aren't they in the menubar?
[08:32] <CensorBard> Query: In what arcane ritual should I edit my xorg.conf file, such that I can actually save the changes?
[08:33] <CensorBard> Kate seems to not be up to the task.
[08:33] <raylu> CensorBard, alt+f2> kdesu kate
[08:34] <TheRealInsane> Funny, I seem to have a small dropdown called "Icon View" in my toolbar, but it seems like a button that's always pressed down
[08:35] <pag> TheRealInsane, try to press and hold ;)
[08:36] <TheRealInsane> D'oh! Thanks, it works :P
[08:37] <TheRealInsane> Guess I'm still not Linux familiar..
[08:38] <raylu> o.0
[08:38] <raylu> you shouldn't need to press and hold
[08:38] <raylu> that's painful :(
[08:38] <raylu> i die a little inside every time i see a windows/mac user do it
[08:39] <TheRealInsane> Hmm..
[08:39] <TheRealInsane> Anyways, I mounted my HDDs, but now I get a visual error
[08:39] <raylu> a what?
[08:39] <TheRealInsane> It displays the size as "24 KB", when it should be around 217 GB
[08:40] <TheRealInsane> Although when I open it up, it still contains all the large files
[08:40] <raylu> m...i don't really know what number you're reading
[08:41] <TheRealInsane> Hmm, it seems all folder sizes are shrinked down
[08:41] <pag> TheRealInsane, konq has that problem - it doesn't count the things inside the folder or something like that
[08:41] <TheRealInsane> Oh, that'd explain it
[08:41] <pag> TheRealInsane, right click and choose properties - it should show the real size then
[08:41] <raylu> fdisk and sfdisk will tell you the size of the partitions
[08:41] <raylu> on the other hand, there's this super cool (but useless) view mode
[08:41] <raylu> that sorts folders and files by size
[08:41] <raylu> it's really cool the first time you use it :D :D :D
[08:42] <TheRealInsane> Wow
[08:42] <TheRealInsane> Looks a bit.... unorganized?
[08:42] <raylu> lol
[08:42] <raylu> i said useless, right?
[08:43] <raylu> even the creator admits that its only eye-candy, but totally useless
[08:43] <raylu> but it's sorted by size, which is still really cool :D
[08:43] <CensorBard> raylu: ....It's been bugging me for a while, but: Netherlands? Is that you?
[08:44] <TheRealInsane> Sleek
[08:44] <TheRealInsane> Microsoft Flight Simulator X 8.17 GB
[08:45] <TheRealInsane> Completely worthless, but still. 8.17 Gig ^^
[08:45] <raylu> CensorBard, ...what?
[08:45] <TheRealInsane> Damnit, that view mode is insane. Do you expect me to turn by monitor 90 or what!?
[08:46] <TheRealInsane> The sideways text is driving me mad ._.
[08:46] <CensorBard> raylu: Ne'er mind. Knew a guy, same name. That was our nickname for him, since he was Chinese Dutch.
[08:46] <raylu> o.0
[08:46] <mumificirani> i have yet antoher question
[08:47] <raylu> apparently, there's dr by the name raylu
[08:47] <raylu> and someone has taken the name in a few places
[08:47] <raylu> TheRealInsane, no, just bask  in its awesomeness for a few minutes :D
[08:48] <pag> mumificirani, since it isn't you first time, you should already be familiar with the drill: don't ask to ask a question, just ask your question :)
[08:48] <mumificirani> when I install xubuntu desktop do I still have KDE on kubuntu?
[08:48] <TheRealInsane> Let me guess: Linux doesn't have that really cool but extremely useless option to highlight folders in different colors?
[08:48] <pag> mumificirani, how are you planning to install it?
[08:49] <mumificirani> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <pag> TheRealInsane, yes we do :O
[08:49] <mumificirani> :)
[08:49] <pag> mumificirani, yup, you can then choose in login screen wether you want KDE or XFCE :)
[08:49] <mumificirani> that's neat
[08:50] <pag> mumificirani, kde will not be touched in any way
[08:50] <raylu> TheRealInsane, ls --color
[08:50] <mumificirani> I still have the old programs or do I get the XFCE ones too?
[08:50] <raylu> :D
[08:50] <TheRealInsane> pad, so how then?
[08:50] <TheRealInsane> Ah hm
[08:50] <TheRealInsane> *paq of course.. not pad :P
[08:50] <raylu> actually, pag, kmenu gets all the xfce stuff :(
[08:50] <TheRealInsane> *pag...
[08:50] <pag> TheRealInsane, depends on your icon theme though
[08:50] <TheRealInsane> My keyboard is driving me mad.....
[08:50] <TheRealInsane> Hmm
[08:51] <TheRealInsane> Let's see
[08:51] <pag> raylu, well yes, but that's a non destructive thing - it won't start changing themes like KDE did to my gnome once
[08:51] <TheRealInsane> pag, I have Crystal SVG Theme currently (default)
[08:51] <mumificirani> can someone answer my question :D?
[08:52] <mumificirani> It's not urgent I mean
[08:52] <pag> TheRealInsane, ok.. wait a sec please, and I'll try to find the feature you need
[08:52] <mumificirani> but
[08:52] <raylu> pag, it destroys my beautiful menu!!
[08:52] <raylu> mumificirani, yes, you get both sets of programs
[08:52] <pag> mumificirani, you'll have both programms - you can use whichever you like
[08:52] <raylu> in fact, you should even be able to run kde programs in xfce and vice versa
[08:52] <mumificirani> wow neat
[08:52] <mumificirani> tnx :)
[08:52] <raylu> it'll just take a bit of extra loading/memory usage if you choose to do so
[08:53] <mumificirani> and I lack that very much :)
[08:53] <pag> TheRealInsane, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Color+Folder?content=34096 here you are :)
[08:53] <TheRealInsane> mkay
[08:53] <TheRealInsane> So does Linux have an equivelant of telnet?
[08:54] <pag> !telnet
[08:54] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[08:54] <pag> but yes - we have telnet too
[08:54] <mumificirani> type telnet in terminal :D
[08:54] <raylu> ew
[08:54] <raylu> why do you need to telnet?
[08:54] <TheRealInsane> Kewl
[08:54] <TheRealInsane> manual SMTPing
[08:54] <raylu> ...
[08:54] <TheRealInsane> Error trapping with my GmEmail Script ;)
[08:55] <raylu> o.0
[08:55] <TheRealInsane> I'm talking bullshit right now, ain't i?
[08:55] <mumificirani> !xfce
[08:55] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:55] <pag> !ohmy | TheRealInsane
[08:55] <ubotu> TheRealInsane: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:57] <raylu> TheRealInsane, i don't think it'd be too hard to write a script to handle it for you
[08:57] <raylu> you should never send low-level data more than once
[08:57] <pag> the script might be failing, because *buntu uses dash instead of sh..
[08:58] <raylu> ?
[08:59] <mahdy> hiya guys
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on e
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <pag> raylu, complicated thing to expalain - but in *buntu /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash  and they are not 100% comparative(sp?)
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <TheRealInsane> raylu, thank you, but I'm doing this for a program called "Game Maker", so nothing with Linux or anything
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <mahdy> all eyez on me
[08:59] <pag> !flood | mahdy
[08:59] <ubotu> mahdy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:00] <raylu> pag, i have no idea what dash/sh do, sorry :P
[09:01] <pag> raylu, ok. nevermind then.
[09:03] <intelikey> why would installing kernel-headers-2.4.27-2 pull in kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k6     but removing kernel-headers-2.4.27-2 also remove kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k6     it's like they have recursive deps on each other    that should not be   if you can not have one with out the other they should be one package.
[09:06] <raylu> they could be maintained by totally different people
[09:06] <raylu> and they may want to allow the option of forcing an install of only one
[09:08] <TheRealInsane> Ok, I downloaded an archive, extracted it and it contains: "colorfolder" and "colorfolder.desktop".
[09:09] <TheRealInsane> Now how the heck do I use it?
[09:09] <TheRealInsane> I see "colorfolder" is a shell script, how do I execute it?
[09:11] <pag> TheRealInsane, there is installation info on the page I gave you
[09:12] <pag> I changed the location of the "colorfolder" for myself though, but it requires editing of "colorfolder.desktop" iirc
[09:14] <TheRealInsane> pag, How can I give my account full permission? Or otherwise remove the system password, I don't want one
[09:15] <TheRealInsane> 'cause I can't seem to create a new folder/copy files without entering my password 10 times
[09:15] <TheRealInsane> It's annyoing
[09:15] <ice9cynic> weddep
[09:16] <pag> TheRealInsane, don't :) running everything with full permissions is a security risk and should never be done.
[09:16] <ice9cynic> DUDE! Ice9, get off my nick, wtf
[09:16] <TheRealInsane> pag, then perhaps administrator level permission? Or atleast enough to create new folders...
[09:17] <pag> TheRealInsane, you have full write acces to your /home/username directory
[09:17] <pag> TheRealInsane, and you almost never need acces to any other dir
[09:17] <TheRealInsane> pag, The problem is, I want to copy a file (colorfolder) into the ~/bin/colorfolder dir
[09:18] <TheRealInsane> But it won't let me.
[09:18] <pag> TheRealInsane, ~ means your homefolder
[09:18] <mumificirani> pag you there?
[09:19] <pag> mumificirani, yup.
[09:19] <ice9cynic> wow I can't believe that guy is stealing my nick, whats up with that
[09:19] <ice9cynic> what an imposter, really
[09:19] <pag> !register | ice9cynic
[09:19] <ubotu> ice9cynic: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:19] <holycow> humans are idiots
[09:19] <mumificirani> ok I installed xubuntu.desk
[09:19] <mumificirani> now what :D?
[09:19] <ice9cynic> ya but I can't register it cuz he's on it!
[09:19] <ubuntu__> are you suposed to come up with your own security scripts?
[09:19] <mumificirani> should I ctrl-alt-bksp*
[09:19] <pag> mumificirani, log out, and in login window choose session -> xfce
[09:20] <mumificirani> ok
[09:20] <mumificirani> tnx
[09:20] <TheRealInsane> Is there a keyboard shortcut to create a new dir in Konquerer?
[09:20] <praecox> hey, anyone here can help me out with Compiz under Kubuntu?
[09:20] <pag> TheRealInsane, not that I'm aware of.. right clicking isn't too hard though
[09:20] <pag> !compiz | praecox
[09:20] <ubotu> praecox: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:20] <ubuntu__> are you suposed to come up with your own security scripts?
[09:21] <pag> ubuntu__, huh?
[09:21] <praecox> pag, http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez is little overdated...
[09:21] <praecox> pag, I've got Gutsy here and simply did
[09:21] <TheRealInsane> pag, Rightclick doesn't have an option for Create new folder
[09:21] <praecox> pag, it's clean install of Gutsy. I simply tried: apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-* compiz-kde emerald
[09:22] <mumificirani> wow this works =D
[09:22] <pag> praecox, I mosly meant the last part of that factoid ;)
[09:22] <pag> TheRealInsane, huh? crate new -> folder
[09:23] <mumificirani> tnx a lot guys, going off now
[09:23] <praecox> pag, I see.
[09:24] <pag> TheRealInsane, or just do it from commandline: mkdir ~/bin
[09:24] <pag> praecox, you have gutsy, so you might also wat to ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:24] <intelikey> TheRealInsane in what that is not an option to make a dir ?     there is in konq
[09:26] <TheRealInsane> intelikey, I'm using Konquerer, rightclicking, all I get is: Up, Back, Forward, Open With, Preview in, Actions, Properties.
[09:26] <pag> TheRealInsane, click on an empty space
[09:26] <pag> TheRealInsane, not some file / folder
[09:26] <TheRealInsane> pag, I am clicking on an empty space
[09:27] <TheRealInsane> If I click on a file, I get stuff like Copy/Paste too
[09:27] <pag> TheRealInsane, in which folder?
[09:28] <TheRealInsane> home
[09:28] <intelikey> you can't write in /home
[09:28] <pag> TheRealInsane, if you have no write acces you will not have the creation options - and you only have that acces to /tmp and /home/YourUserName
[09:29] <intelikey> pag and maybe /media/*    but yeah
[09:29] <TheRealInsane> That explains it..
[09:29] <TheRealInsane> Thanks
[09:33] <intelikey> hmmm installing a kernel i'll have to mkdir /boot or apt will cry
[09:34] <intelikey> oh it's gonna taint my kernel,   poor kernel...
[09:36] <intelikey> now how do you update the nvidia driver ?
[09:38] <intelikey> ha crap apt cried anyway      Could not open /etc/fstab:No such file or directory at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.15-28-386.postinst line 1045, <STDIN> line 1.
[09:38] <TheRealInsane> Where would ~/.kde be?
[09:38] <TheRealInsane> Doesn't the "." cancel the "~" out?
[09:38] <pag> TheRealInsane, folders starting with . are hidden
[09:38] <intelikey> TheRealInsane ` is always your users home dir
[09:38] <TheRealInsane> pag, well the instructions tell me to copy a file there
[09:38] <intelikey> ~ is
[09:39] <pag> TheRealInsane, so just enable show hidden files/folders form konq's menus
[09:39] <TheRealInsane> Kk
[09:41] <intelikey> TheRealInsane and i think you were thinking of  ..  rather than .    ~/..   is /home whereas  ~/ is your users home dir which $HOME is and   /home/$USER  is in most cases
[09:42] <intelikey> what i want to know is, is there a way to remove .. from ./    :)
[09:42] <TheRealInsane> Yerh
[09:42] <Cocytus> Hm. My desktop image is no longer drawn, the background is only white.. any typs?
[09:44] <mumificirani> pag
[09:44] <mumificirani> nothing sorry
[09:44] <pag> :)
[09:46] <mumificirani> pag
[09:46] <mumificirani> if I let's say... DISLIKE yfcm
[09:46] <mumificirani> xfcm
[09:46] <mumificirani> can I uninstall it :D?
[09:47] <mumificirani> just hypothetical
[09:47] <pag> xfcm? do you mean xfce?
[09:47] <mumificirani> yeah
[09:47] <pag> sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove  :)
[09:48] <mumificirani> all that?
[09:48] <mumificirani> I should'nt dot hat while in xfce do I :)?
[09:49] <pag> yup... better be in KDE (or no gui at all)
[09:49] <mumificirani> xD
[09:49] <intelikey> is autoremove one of those NON-documented features ?
[09:50] <mumificirani> nah... I'll just stick up to KDE no need for unisntall
[09:50] <intelikey> or has it been added in the last few months ?
[09:50] <pag> intelikey, man apt-get mentions it..
[09:50] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]  apt-get autoremove
[09:50] <intelikey> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[09:50] <pag> intelikey, it was added in edgy iirc
[09:50] <intelikey> and man don't mention it to me
[09:50] <intelikey> k
[09:51] <dotz> how to upgrade from dapper to fiesty?
[09:52] <TheRealInsane> pag, Aargh! I right click and select tint (means that the Konquerer mod is working) and it gives me: "Could not find the program colorfolder"
[09:52] <pag> dotz, through edgy
[09:52] <TheRealInsane> I have it in ~/bin
[09:53] <pag> TheRealInsane, check that colorfolder.desktop points to the right location
[09:53] <intelikey> dotz they say you can't   not in one step   but if you want to try before you reload   change your sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:53] <khaije1> dotz:  a "clean" install isnt an option?
[09:53] <TheRealInsane> Kk
[09:53] <TheRealInsane> A wonder I didn't think of that
[09:54] <pag> TheRealInsane, kate ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/colorfolder.desktop  iirc
[09:54] <intelikey> dotz they told me i couldn't do that from hoary to dapper either     but i did.      "wasn't smooth though"
[09:56] <TheRealInsane> pag, it just points to "Exec=colorfolder ..."
[09:56] <TheRealInsane> So where does that point to?
[09:57] <TheRealInsane> Also, how can I configure to view hidden files in Konquerer?
[09:58] <pag> TheRealInsane, in ubuntu? nowhere :-/  replace it with  Exec=/home/YourUserName/bin/colorfolder
[09:58] <pag> TheRealInsane, view -> show hidden files
[10:00] <rockets> is it possible to get wine running AMD64 (K)ubuntu
[10:00] <TheRealInsane> pag, in kubuntu. Can't I just replace it with ~/bin/colorfolder too?
[10:00] <intelikey> i reboot now.    kernel.
[10:01] <pag> TheRealInsane, maybe - I'd do it the safe way though
[10:01] <stdin> rockets: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[10:02] <rockets> ty
[10:02] <khaije1> dotz: anyone will tell you that a complete reinstall is preferable whenever possibly
[10:02] <khaije1> *possible
[10:04] <khaije1> stdin: are you POSIX compliant?
[10:04] <TheRealInsane> I modified the program, and now it finds colorfolder, but it doesn't work..
[10:05] <TheRealInsane> I mean, it doesn't get tinted
[10:05] <TheRealInsane> Under kubuntu 7.04
[10:05] <TheRealInsane> Oh yeah, doesn't Konquerer support Unicode filenames?
[10:06] <TheRealInsane> I have this folder called Elkeliset and it displays the  as boxes
[10:06] <pag> TheRealInsane, works well for me... are you sure the filename is in utf8?
[10:06] <stdin> khaije1: no, /bin/sh is
[10:06] <TheRealInsane> No idea what the filename is in
[10:08] <TheRealInsane> How can Ia ccess the Equalizer in Amarok?
[10:08] <TheRealInsane> nvm
[10:15] <TheRealInsane> Damnit, why do m3u playlists save the filename starting with D:\??
[10:16] <TheRealInsane> Is there a way to autmatically convert filenames from D:\ to /media/data/ and D:\ to /media/hdb1/?
[10:16] <stdin> use sed
[10:17] <stdin> sed 's,D:\,/media/data/g'
[10:17] <TheRealInsane> How does sed work/what does it do?
[10:17] <llutz> sed 's,D:\,/media/data,g'
[10:17] <TheRealInsane> I have a file, and I want to rename all instances of it to the new one
[10:20] <stdin> TheRealInsane: sed takes the 1st expression and replaced it with the 2nd, so "sed -i 's,D:\,/media/data/g' filename.m3u" would replace all the "D:\" to "/media/data/" in  filename.m3u
[10:20] <mike> Greets, everyone...
[10:20] <TheRealInsane> K, thanks
[10:20] <TheRealInsane> Now how do I stop reading a manual page?
[10:20] <stdin> q
[10:20] <praecox> q
[10:20] <TheRealInsane> Pressed every key I have on my keyboard and I can't seem to leave it
[10:21] <TheRealInsane> Oh wiat, q works
[10:21] <TheRealInsane> Hehe
[10:21] <llutz> stdin: typo, sed 's,D:\,/media/data,g'
[10:21] <mike> I'm setting up the partitions on a dual-boot system... Is it safe to mount the windows partition under /home/user/.windows-partition?
[10:21] <stdin> llutz: well, I missed the last ',' I intended the last slash tho
[10:23] <stdin> mike: yeah, you can mount it anywhere you want
[10:23] <mike> stdin: Thanks
[10:24] <TheRealInsane> It gives me an error: "unterminated s command"
[10:25] <TheRealInsane> The command as I have it: sed -i 's,D:\,/media/data/,g' "Music - All.m3u"
[10:25] <codeatnight> s,D:\\,/media/data,g
[10:26] <TheRealInsane> Damnit:
[10:26] <sille> 1st instal of kubuntu... needed help unlocking packing system.. pls
[10:26] <pag> !aptfix | sille
[10:26] <ubotu> sille: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:26] <TheRealInsane> sed: couldn't open temporary file ./sedCF8gHF: Read-only file system
[10:27] <sille> will try and let u know. thx
[10:31] <sille> worked great.  unlocked. i dnot remember sys crashing on me though
[10:32] <pag> sille, adept manages to lock system up once in a while even without crashing
[10:34] <TheRealInsane> pag, can you help me on my last error?
[10:34] <pag> TheRealInsane, where are you trying to write? to a windows disk?
[10:34] <TheRealInsane> To hdb1
[10:35] <pag> TheRealInsane, which FS? NTFS, right?
[10:35] <TheRealInsane> Yep
[10:35] <pag> !ntfs-3g | TheRealInsane
[10:35] <ubotu> TheRealInsane: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:36] <TheRealInsane> Another question: Is there a way to configure the extra mouse buttons? (4,5,6 and 7)?
[10:37] <TheRealInsane> I can only configure 1-3
[10:37] <sille> thx pag
[10:37] <sille> ;}
[10:37] <pag> !mouse | TheRealInsane
[10:37] <ubotu> TheRealInsane: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[10:39] <TheRealInsane> Blach
[10:39] <TheRealInsane> Uninformative manual: "Enable the universe repository and install the ntfs-config package"
[10:39] <TheRealInsane> Too bad it doesn't explain how
[10:40] <pag> !universe | TheRealInsane
[10:40] <ubotu> TheRealInsane: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:40] <pag> !software | TheRealInsane
[10:40] <ubotu> TheRealInsane: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[10:40] <cw> hi
[10:40] <pag> hello cw :)
[10:41] <cw> hello
[10:41] <cw> this is just a test
[10:41] <cw> thank you
[10:41] <cw> ;)
[10:43] <Tenen> Can anyone tell me if madwifi is installed by default in a normal base installation?
[10:43] <pag> looks like it's not
[10:43] <Tenen> my netgear wg 311 t that is atheros based runs 100% on default ubuntu install due to madwifi, in kubuntu the card doesnt pick up in network manager but rather only when i do a grep atheros
[10:44] <Tenen> I need that card to work or I'm stuck in windows
[10:44] <Tenen> and when i do a make for madwifi i get errors
[10:45] <Tenen> What would the dif in terms of performance etc be if i installed ubuntu then just installed kde from synaptic
[10:45] <Tenen> because i need madwifi
[10:45] <pag> TheRealInsane, next to zero - especially if you remove the unneeded gnome-pkg's
[10:46] <Tenen> was that commento for me pag?
[10:46] <pag> Tenen, yes, sorry
[10:46] <Tenen> so with kde would come konsole, konqueror etc?
[10:47] <harmental> hey guys....is it possible that adept_noitifier is not "activated"......(i know for sure it is installed though)
[10:47] <harmental> i dont receive "notices" anymore....even there are outdated packages...
[10:48] <pag> Tenen, yup.
[10:48] <stdin> Tenen: it's in the linux-restricted-modules package
[10:48] <Tenen> so pag if i did ubuntu then installed kubuntu kde - it would be a kubuntu system?
[10:48] <Tenen> or a hybrid?
[10:48] <pag> harmental, it is possible
[10:49] <pag> Tenen, it would have both packages.. so hybrid I guess
[10:49] <Tenen> bah
[10:49] <Tenen> i want kubuntu to work
[10:49] <Tenen> i cant get madwifi to install
[10:49] <Tenen> its lacking some modules/packages to do so
[10:49] <harmental> pag: how can i reactive it?
[10:50] <Tenen> i've got the cd but i dont know how to load packages off there
[10:50] <pag> harmental, somewhere in adept_manager settings maybe?
[10:50] <TheRealInsane> So I installed "3dchess" and several others with Adept Manager, I can access the others, but not 3dchess. Where would I find it?
[10:51] <harmental> already tried that.....
[10:51] <harmental> pag: there is not such thing as notifier activation...
[10:51] <ching> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:51] <ching> i keep getting that on a fresh installation of fiesty
[10:51] <ching> apt-get update
[10:52] <Tenen> pag the modules that kubuntu needs for madwifi to work etc, would those be on my cd? and just not installed by default? how would i go about installing em?
[10:52] <ching> what shd i do
[10:52] <ching> anyone?
[10:53] <pag> harmental, hmm... try launching adept_notifier and hope it works :-/
[10:53] <pag> ching, try to use a different mirror maybe?
[10:53] <ching> what are the mirors?
[10:53] <Mouseball> error setting up inter-process communications for KDE:
[10:53] <Mouseball> Could not open network socket
[10:53] <Mouseball> is dcopserver running?
[10:53] <TheRealInsane> Can anybody help me?
[10:53] <pag> !easysources | ching
[10:53] <ubotu> ching: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:54] <pag> Tenen, I don't know. sorry.
[10:54] <sx66> how do you change themes?
[10:54] <sille> nthr sille issue.  removing some apps and got "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." error.  What to do?
[10:54] <Mouseball> !dcopserver
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcopserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <Tenen> pag the modules that kubuntu needs for madwifi to work etc, would those be on my cd? and just not installed by default? how would i go about installing em?
[10:54] <pag> !customise | sx66
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customise - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <pag> d'oh.
[10:55] <sx66> yeah?
[10:55] <sx66> how do you do it?
[10:55] <stdin> !themes
[10:55] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:55] <stdin> !changethemes
[10:55] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[10:55] <ching> i still hit into the same problem
[10:55] <ching> gpg key?
[10:56] <abu> tes
[10:56] <ching> the generated sources.list have this in comment
[10:56] <ching> # Ubuntu supported packages
[10:56] <ching> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[10:56] <Mouseball> anybody know how what that error message means?
[10:56] <TheRealInsane> Where can I access installed packages or otherwise read their manual?
[10:57] <Tenen> pag the modules that kubuntu needs for madwifi to work etc, would those be on my cd? and just not installed by default? how would i go about installing em?
[10:57] <stdin> ching: is ubuntu-keyring installed ?
[10:57] <pag> Tenen, I already said that I don't know
[10:57] <TheRealInsane> Please, anybody?
[10:57] <ertugrulge> hello !what is kubuntu turkish channel
[10:58] <pag> !tr | ertugrulge
[10:58] <ubotu> ertugrulge: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[10:58] <sx66> I have downloaded a bunch of themes for but I can not import them. pag
[10:58] <stdin> Tenen: they are one the CD
[10:58] <ching> yes
[10:58] <Tenen> hello !what is kubuntu south african channel
 man
[10:58] <Tenen> so how do i access em stdin
[10:58] <Tenen> or install em
[10:59] <pag> sx66, which themes you have downloaded?  or should I say "what kind of"..
[10:59] <Tenen> what is a command to install something
[10:59] <stdin> Tenen: looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu ?
[10:59] <ertugrulge> thank you but anybody in turkish channel :)
 like what
[10:59] <ching> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:00] <ching> # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[11:00] <ching> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[11:00] <ching> i tried that
[11:00] <ching> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[11:00] <sx66> pag: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Futurosoft+Kickoff+Vista+?content=52346
[11:00] <Tenen> well I need to install madwifi but with 0 net access on that machine caus wifi wont work I need to somehow install madwifi i downloaded it but its lacking headers or kernels or something to install would those be on my kubuntu cd, if so how would i install em
[11:00] <stdin> ching: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5
[11:01] <pag> ching, gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5 && gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:01] <stdin> ching: gpg --export -a 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:01] <stdin> Tenen: what version?
[11:01] <pag> sx66, that's a kickoff theme - kubuntu doesn't even use kickoff
[11:02] <Tenen> the latest madwifi version and its kubuntu 7.04
[11:02] <sx66> pag: so, how do I install themes, and how do I know if a theme will work?
[11:02] <stdin> Tenen: should work instantly
[11:03] <pag> sx66, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[11:03] <CensorBard> Oh, sonofa. Katapult broke KDE.
[11:03] <stdin> Tenen: the madwifi drivers are install by default
[11:03] <TheRealInsane> I can't find it in the manual *panics*
[11:03] <stdin> TheRealInsane: manual for what?
[11:03] <Tenen> stdin not that i can see , card doesnt pickup
[11:03] <Tenen> and pag told me earlier they werent
[11:03] <TheRealInsane> stdin, Packages
[11:03] <ching> damnnnnnnnnnnnnn still couldn't work
[11:03] <ching> i've replaced KEY with the 437xx
[11:03] <stdin> TheRealInsane: "man command"
[11:03] <TheRealInsane> stdin, I've installed some, but I can't find them.
[11:03] <ching> urgh z z z
[11:03] <stdin> TheRealInsane: well, it is
[11:04] <Tenen> if i do a grep atheros i can see the card, but its not in network manager or anything and pag told me that kubuntu doesnt install madwifi by default
[11:04] <TheRealInsane> stdin "no manual entry for command"
[11:04] <stdin> TheRealInsane: try "sudo modprobe ath_pci"
[11:04] <TheRealInsane> Oh wait
[11:04] <TheRealInsane> I'm an idiot
[11:04] <stdin> TheRealInsane: replace "command" with the actual commaND
[11:04] <TheRealInsane> Just noticed that
[11:04] <TheRealInsane> Thing is, I don't know the command
[11:04] <Tenen> if i do a grep atheros i can see the card, but its not in network manager or anything and pag told me that kubuntu doesnt install madwifi by default
[11:04] <Tenen> pag told me kubuntu doesnt by default install madwifi
[11:04] <pag> Tenen, I just looked at my sytem - and I don't have them installed  and since I can't recall removing them I just assumed they weren't
[11:04] <Tenen> yet ubuntu does
[11:05] <stdin> Tenen: one last time, Kubuntu installs the madwifi drivers by default
[11:05] <Tenen> well this card worked 100% in ubuntu on base install and now doesnt pickup in kubuntu unless i do  a grep atheros
[11:05] <harebosi> hello
[11:05] <Tenen> well somewhere im getting screwed
[11:05] <harebosi> I need help
[11:05] <stdin> TheRealInsane: try "sudo modprobe ath_pci"
[11:05] <stdin> Tenen:  try "sudo modprobe ath_pci"
[11:05] <Tenen> so how do i get the card to work then stdin
[11:05] <TheRealInsane> Did. Nothing happened.
[11:05] <stdin> TheRealInsane: ignore that, wrong name :)
[11:06] <TheRealInsane> Lol
[11:06] <Tenen> sudo modprobe ath_pci - that will force the card to work?
[11:06] <TheRealInsane> Anybody installed the "3dchess" package?
[11:06] <Tenen> or what does that do
[11:06] <stdin> Tenen: tell me if you get an error
[11:06] <Tenen> k stdin but i gotta restart
[11:07] <ching> is my best option to reinstall?
[11:07] <Tenen> caus its on a diff partition
[11:07] <pag> TheRealInsane, open konsole and type " 3dchess "?
[11:07] <Tenen> but i got no internet due to no wifi
[11:07] <Tenen> so i gotta restart log kubuntu get error then restart log windows and msg u
[11:07] <Tenen> its a pain in the ass
[11:07] <Tenen> but i will
[11:07] <TheRealInsane> pag, command doesn't exist
[11:07] <Tenen> no wifi = no internet for me
[11:07] <TheRealInsane> pag, it comes with a scarce documentation, but not enough to tell how to start it
[11:08] <pag> TheRealInsane, try: which 3dchess  (that's also a command)
[11:08] <Tenen> also real quick stdin how do i copy the .txt that i will make of the error to my windows partition
[11:08] <Tenen> it tells me cannot write file
[11:08] <TheRealInsane> pag, nothing. nothing at all
[11:08] <Tenen> how do i get full write access of my ntfs partitions
[11:08] <stdin> Tenen: you'd need the ntfs-3g driver to do that
[11:09] <pag> TheRealInsane, does apt-cache policy 3dchess  tell you you have it installed?
[11:09] <TheRealInsane> !ntfs-3g | Tenen
[11:09] <ubotu> Tenen: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:09] <Tenen> great more shit i cant do while im offfline
[11:09] <Tenen> i cant do shit on this kubuntu install till i get wifi working
[11:09] <Tenen> my wifi is my internet
[11:09] <stdin> Tenen: it'd only be 1 line of an error
[11:09] <TheRealInsane> Yep, installed.
[11:09] <Tenen> k
[11:09] <Tenen> restarting
[11:12] <keisangi> hi there,
[11:12] <keisangi> how do i setup which services are auto started when system boot up in kubuntu / ubuntu ?
[11:12] <keisangi> for exemple if i would like kdm to not automaticaly start when system boot up
[11:13] <keisangi> how can i do that ?
[11:13] <stdin> keisangi: System Settings > Advanced > System Services
[11:13] <berkes> where is the score for "most used applications" in the kmenu kept?
[11:13] <keisangi> stdin, i'm not running any desktop (no kde or gnome)
[11:14] <keisangi> i'm trying to setup my own environment, using X and compiz
[11:14] <keisangi> it works fine .. i just wish kdm doesn't auto start
[11:15] <keisangi> do you know any way to setup this from a console ? (no kde menu, i'm using a plain term)
[11:15] <stdin> keisangi: you said in ubuntu/kubuntu that implies a desktop, if you want to stop kdm from starting run: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[11:16] <keisangi> so that's how it works in ubuntu ? with update-rc.d command ?
[11:16] <keisangi> i try ..
[11:16] <stdin> keisangi: it works in the terminal, independent of desktop environment
[11:16] <CensorBard> .....help. Somehow, my KDE-equivalent of the Windows taskbar has disappeared.
[11:17] <keisangi> stdin, can i use this comamnd to list all the services (daemons) to check their status ? (auto-start or disabled)
[11:17] <stdin> keisangi: no
[11:17] <keisangi> what could i use for this purpose ?
[11:17] <stdin> CensorBard: Alt-F2, type in: kicker
[11:17] <stdin> keisangi: ls
[11:17] <stdin> keisangi: eg, "ls /etc/rc2.d/" for the default rinlevel
[11:18] <stdin> *runlevel
[11:18] <keisangi> fedora had a small term based gui .. called "setup" was easy to use
[11:18] <stdin> keisangi: fedora doesn't use the same init system
[11:18] <keisangi> i see
[11:19] <keisangi> i think i remember i tryed once a tool called sysvconf or something like that?
[11:19] <CensorBard> stdin: No go. It should be noted that the bar is not popping up on startup.
[11:19] <keisangi> some kind of term based admin prog to setup services
[11:20] <stdin> !info sysvconfig | keisangi
[11:20] <ubotu> keisangi: sysvconfig: A text menu based utility for configuring init script links. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70 (feisty), package size 22 kB, installed size 136 kB
[11:20] <stdin> CensorBard: hmm, does it work for any other users?
[11:21] <keisangi> nice one :)
[11:21] <keisangi> just was i needed, i'm using this now, thanks for the help stdin :)
[11:21] <CensorBard> stdin: I wouldn't know. I am the only user configured on this box.
[11:22] <CensorBard> stdin: Well. Aside from root.
[11:22] <stdin> CensorBard: open konsole (by pressing Alt-F2 and typing konsole in) and in there put "mv ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc{,.bak}" (copy and paste that)
[11:23] <CensorBard> stdin: Done. Next step?
[11:23] <TheRealInsane> Is it possible to assign a key shortcut (Alt + Ctrl + Tab) to a console command? "3ddesk"
[11:24] <stdin> CensorBard: after that logout and log back in
[11:24] <CensorBard> Off I go, then.
[11:24] <keisangi> now i would like to make a script that does that:  execute "X" then xterm -display :0 & and then from that xterm execute "compiz --replace" ;)
[11:25] <stdin> TheRealInsane: you can assign a shortcut to any command from System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:26] <stdin> keisangi: just put all commands in a text file and make it executable, remember to set the DISPLAY variable tho
[11:26] <CensorBard> stdin: Ah, excellent everything works again, thanks. What was that string again? I want to c&p that to a reference file for later.
[11:27] <keisangi> stdin, yes, but then how do i make "compiz --replace" command to execute in that newly created xterm ?
[11:27] <stdin> CensorBard: "mv ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc{,.bak}" it just moves the config file for kicker so the settings are reset to default.
[11:27] <TheRealInsane> stdin, That menu doesn't let me assign shortcuts to actual console commands, just to individual programs
[11:28] <stdin> keisangi: xterm -e compiz --replace
[11:28] <keisangi> stdin, great :)
[11:28] <stdin> TheRealInsane: it should be in the kmenu, if not try running "kbuildsycoca"
[11:29] <CensorBard> stdin: Good to know. But I'll keep it for reference so I don't have to futz with the syntax while I learn Linux. Odd that kicker would die when I'm working on getting my two extra buttons on my mouse to work, though.
[11:29] <TheRealInsane> stdin, huh?
[11:29] <keisangi> stdin, you wouldn't know of any way to create menus in plain X by any chance ? i mean right click to have a menu to select apps from .. i'm after a simple and fast solution to create my own menu, so i can put my apps in it to start them easily ..
[11:29] <nicolai_> CensorBard: Kicker can die from anything. There is a reason it is going to be replaced in KDE 4.0
[11:30] <stdin> keisangi: you'd have to use a window manager for that
[11:30] <runlevelten> keisangi: try fluxbox.
[11:30] <keisangi> i use compiz and emerald
[11:30] <stdin> TheRealInsane: the command I gave should rescan the menu entries
[11:30] <CensorBard> nicolai_: Point taken.
[11:31] <keisangi> bah i'll try to find something .. someone have to have created a simple tool to have menus on plain X ..
[11:31] <runlevelten> ~/.fluxbox/menu
[11:31] <stdin> keisangi: you'll just have to run each command manually, or make a C program to do it
[11:31] <keisangi> runlevelten, fluxbox doesn't seems to like compiz fusion
[11:31] <TheRealInsane> stdin ERROR: No database available!
[11:32] <keisangi> stdin, i see ..
[11:32] <TheRealInsane> stdin, anyways, why would I want to rebuild the menu? It has the program in question in it already, although the program in question doesn't let me do what I want
[11:33] <runlevelten> keisangi: so you're after a root window menu without any wm?
[11:33] <keisangi> i'm using backstep to iconify my windows .. works nice
[11:34] <keisangi> runlevelten, yes kind of.. i'm using X and compiz --replace, so i can use all compiz goodies from a simple X session .. i use feh to setup a wallpaper, and backstep to iconify my windows
[11:34] <keisangi> only thing left is a kind of app launcher .. would be nice if it would be a small and simple menu
[11:35] <keisangi> i can launch everything from a term manually  but ..
[11:37] <TheRealInsane> How do I execute a shell script?
[11:37] <keisangi> TheRealInsane, you setup executable attribute
[11:37] <keisangi> with chmod +x myscript
[11:37] <stdin> TheRealInsane: type the path to it, or if it's in the same directory, put ./scriptname.sh (replacing "scriptname.sh")
[11:38] <keisangi> and then from a term you simply give to path to it:  /home/TheRealInsane/myscript
[11:38] <Tenen> So it turns out that my install was screwed
[11:38] <Tenen> Im currently on the live disc reinstalling
[11:39] <Tenen> wifi works on this
[11:40] <TheRealInsane> Damnit!
[11:40] <TheRealInsane> I can't install flash for konquerer?
[11:40] <Tenen> why not
[11:40] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: You should be able to
[11:40] <TheRealInsane> How would I?
[11:41] <TheRealInsane> Where would I download it?
[11:41] <stdin> TheRealInsane: from the repositories
[11:41] <TheRealInsane> The installer from adobe.com isn't for Konquerer
[11:41] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: install the mozilla flash plugin in Adept.
[11:41] <TheRealInsane> Oh, lemme test that
[11:41] <stdin> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[11:41] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:43] <TheRealInsane> So yeah, I still haven't been able to assign a keyboard shortcut to a command line command
[11:43] <CensorBard> So. Anyone else have a MX500 series optical mouse that they got to work properly? Mines seems to not want to work, imwheel or otherwise.
[11:44] <Tenen> any mud clients for kubuntu?
[11:45] <runlevelten> Tenen: kildclient
[11:45] <Tenen> any way i can just telnet in while im waiting for install to finsih?
[11:45] <CensorBard> Tenen: TF if you want a console-based one. goes well with Yakuake. Kmuddy if you want a GUI-based one.
[11:45] <runlevelten> telnet server port
[11:45] <Tenen> ive used mm2k on windows all the time
[11:46] <TheRealInsane> or telnet, and inside o server port
[11:46] <Tenen> that and mmconsole
[11:46] <runlevelten> kmuddy < kildclient.
[11:46] <CensorBard> runlevelten: Really? I have a friend that swears by Kmuddy.
[11:46] <runlevelten> I used to love papaya until it basically became abandonware and I didn't have time to pick it up.
[11:47] <runlevelten> tf5 is alright, too. Just not my cup of tea.
[11:48] <runlevelten> keisangi: are there any root menu plugins for beryl/compiz/compiz-fusion/whatever it is this week?
[11:48] <runlevelten> I see an old one for beryl...
[11:49] <rami> !sudo
[11:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:49] <TheRealInsane> !beryl
[11:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:49] <rami> !googleearth
[11:49] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[11:50] <rami> !medibuntu
[11:50] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[11:50] <keisangi> runlevelten, i don't know yet i'm googling about it.. if you found something i'd gladly hear it :)
[11:50] <TheRealInsane> So what's the difference between xubuntu, ubuntu, kubuntu and editbuntu?
[11:51] <rami> the desktop environments
[11:51] <stdin> TheRealInsane: the Desktop Environment installed by default
[11:51] <runlevelten> desktopclick apparently
[11:51] <keisangi> runlevelten, thanks for the info i'm looking for it
[11:51] <rami> any way to avoid password prompts?
[11:52] <runlevelten> Oh for God's sake at xml pages: http://planet.beryl-project.org/atom.xml
[11:52] <TheRealInsane> Weee! beryl
[11:52] <runlevelten> Complete SPAM as far as I'm concerned.
[11:52] <runlevelten> great for RSS, but not what I ask Google for :(
[11:52] <Tenen> why when im installing as i am now does half the progress bar dissapear and i cant see how far install is
[11:53] <Tenen> chat rami if ya talking bout konsole then yeah
[11:53] <Tenen> right click on shell and go root shell
[11:53] <stdin> rami: sudo -i
[11:54] <keisangi> what should i do with PKGBUILD  files ?
[11:54] <rami> ok
[11:54] <Tenen> why when im installing as i am now does half the progress bar dissapear and i cant see how far install is
[11:54] <keisangi> how can i build a .deb out of them ?
[11:54] <stdin> keisangi: pkgbuild files are for slackware (and other) .tgz packages
[11:55] <keisangi> stdin, i see
[11:55] <Tenen> man this is annoying i dont know how far i am from finished with install
[11:56] <Tenen> caus progress bar half of its dissapeared
[11:56] <runlevelten> keisangi:  http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=664
[11:56] <keisangi> :)
[11:56] <keisangi> i look
[11:57] <keisangi> runlevelten, looks exactly about what i'm after .. if only i could make it works ..
[11:58] <keisangi> runlevelten, seems it doesn't compile at all, it complains for beryl.h
[11:58] <keisangi> i'm not sure it would run on compiz-fusion
[11:59] <runlevelten> it seems like it needs porting, tbh
[12:03] <insane> Lord help me!
[12:03] <TheRealInsane> I installed beryl, started it (after configuring) and now my window border is completely gone
[12:04] <TheRealInsane> Which means I can't move my windows around or click the buttons
[12:04] <Tenen> is beryl another window manager like kde and gnome?
[12:05] <TheRealInsane> Yep
[12:05] <Tenen> what dif between it and kde
[12:05] <TheRealInsane> Full graphical awesomeness
[12:05] <TheRealInsane> Eye candy
[12:05] <runlevelten> kde and gnome are desktop environments, not window managers :)
[12:05] <Tenen> so a no go on my older machine :P
[12:05] <TheRealInsane> Anyways, what's the <Super> button?
[12:05] <TheRealInsane> Hehe
[12:06] <runlevelten> you could run a window manager and a desktop environment at the same time, for instance ;)
[12:06] <TheRealInsane> It works, but the window border is missing, nothing else
[12:06] <Tenen> i got an old athlon xp 2.6 ghz + 512mb ram running this
[12:06] <Tenen> so beryl will choke right?
[12:06] <runlevelten> Tenen: it doesn't have high requirements
[12:06] <runlevelten> Tenen: it's about what graphics card you have.
[12:06] <Tenen> 256mb crappy gfore
[12:06] <Tenen> gforce
[12:07] <Tenen> budget old pc now :P
[12:07] <runlevelten> what geforce?
[12:07] <runlevelten> Nothing you've said so far rules you out. wot gf?
[12:07] <Tenen> gforce 6200a
[12:07] <Tenen> 256mb
[12:07] <Tenen> its a chaintech carc
[12:07] <TheRealInsane> What's the <Super> button on the keyboard!?
[12:07] <Tenen> card
[12:07] <lazz0> since when 256 is crappy
[12:07] <TheRealInsane> Several key combos use it
[12:07] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: windows :P
[12:07] <Tenen> considering you get 700mb cards 256 mb is shit now :P
[12:08] <Tenen> and considering this is old agp 8x vs pci express
[12:08] <TheRealInsane> nicolai_, Huh!?
[12:08] <Tenen> its a shit card
[12:08] <TheRealInsane> Oh
[12:08] <TheRealInsane> nvm
[12:08] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: The windows logo between ctrl and alt
[12:08] <runlevelten> I ran beryl on a 64 mb geforce 4 mx440 for a while.
[12:08] <TheRealInsane> Ye, just got it
[12:08] <runlevelten> worked OK.
[12:08] <Tenen> and it works fine?
[12:08] <lazz0> runlevelten,mine is the same
[12:08] <lazz0> so i may try it out
[12:08] <runlevelten> wasn't dreamily fast, but it worked fine.
[12:08] <Tenen> so reckon my 256mb card will do ok?
[12:09] <lazz0> hah
[12:09] <Tenen> all it is is eye candy??
[12:09] <runlevelten> depends, I think that card may actually be weaker, heh
[12:09] <Tenen> holy crap this install has been configuring time for like 10 mins
[12:09] <runlevelten> Tenen: not just eye candy, useful productivity tools if you do a lot of work on a computer
[12:10] <runlevelten> scale etc are useful.
[12:10] <Tenen> like what
[12:10] <TheRealInsane> runlevelten How did you install/start it without errors?
[12:10] <runlevelten> like scale, and the very fast manipulation of windows.
[12:11] <runlevelten> if you use lots of multiwindow apps to work on the same projects, being able to take a window to another desktop without delay is nice too.
[12:11] <runlevelten> TheRealInsane: When I had that card, I used SuSE
[12:11] <CARCASS> hello, i need help with one question: how could i "uninstall" midnight commander which i previously compiled and installed? mc is the last snapshot, kubuntu 7.04 russian localization. Thanks for some answers.
[12:12] <runlevelten> CARCASS: you dropped it on from make install?
[12:12] <CARCASS> -= runlevelten =- exactly
[12:13] <runlevelten> if you still have the makefile, you may be able to remove it using make uninstall or make remove
[12:14] <runlevelten> failing that, you could delete them manually...
[12:14] <runlevelten> I tend to use checkinstall if I'll want to remove them using apt.
[12:14] <runlevelten> you might get away with installing it again using checkinstall, then removing it.
[12:14] <CARCASS> checkinstall
[12:14] <runlevelten> because apt-get remove would then delete your files I reckon.
[12:15] <runlevelten> but check the makefile first, it might let you uninstall it.
[12:15] <CARCASS> no, apt-get thinks that mc isn't installed )
[12:15] <runlevelten> CARCASS, Yes, unless you use checkinstall.
[12:15] <CARCASS> okay thanks :)
[12:16] <runlevelten> try make remove or whatever, failing that, ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall, then apt-get remove it.
[12:16] <insane> DAmnit
[12:16] <insane> Beryl crashed my pc
[12:18] <josef> hey guys i have a problem
[12:18] <josef> can anybody help me
[12:18] <TheRealInsane> How do I deactivate my second monitor?
[12:19] <TheRealInsane> Basically it got quite strangely configured, normal desktop manager tells me I have only one monitor with 2560x1024 pixels
[12:23] <rotem> Can someone, please, refer to a link about reinstaliing kubuntu, with out losing my documents?
[12:38] <runlevelten> Can anyone else confirm something's broken for me please?
[12:39] <runlevelten> "Administrator Mode" in kcontrol's font installer.
[12:40] <nmick> runlevelten: works for me
[12:40] <nmick> runlevelten: when you say kcontrol you mean system settings?
[12:41] <runlevelten> no, kcontrol
[12:42] <runlevelten> specifically with the config part running in kde control center
[12:45] <TheRealInsane> YAY!!
[12:45] <TheRealInsane> I got Beryl to work with all it's full special effects!!!
[12:46] <nmick> runlevelten: Can't see anything wrong on my computer
[12:46] <runlevelten> What, you can log into admin mode?
[12:47] <runlevelten> I'm just seeing the red border, and it gives up.
[12:48] <nmick> runlevelten: Try closing kcontrol and opening it again. Alternatively you may have to reboot.
[12:48] <nmick> runlevelten: I tried what you describe back in Edgy.
[12:50] <runlevelten> Nah, 'sjust dead. I guess I'll play with it later and see what it is
[12:50] <runlevelten> thanks though :)
[12:57] <insane> So yeah
[12:57] <insane> What button is "Next" on the keyboard?
[12:58] <TheRealInsane> 'cause a keyboard shortcut is telling me to press "<Control><Alt>Next"
[12:58] <cabuloso> how do i install a window decoration theme ?
[12:58] <ciacon> has anyone got a hint what I can use for simple audio-editing... (super simple cut.....)
[01:01] <nmick> TheRealInsane: it could be the right arrowkey
[01:02] <nmick> ciacon: krecord might work for you
[01:04] <ciacon> nmick: can I also use it to cut mp3s??
[01:05] <nicolai_> ciacon: I think so. It's been a long time since I used it.
[01:05] <TheRealInsane> Anybody know how to use Emerald Theme Manager?
[01:05] <cabuloso> i need help to install this -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=32613&id=1
[01:06] <cabuloso> anyone ?
[01:10] <lazz0> ciacon,audacity
[01:10] <Tenen> hi guys
[01:10] <nicolai_> lazz0: not really for simple uses :P
[01:10] <Tenen> got it working now
[01:10] <Tenen> t
[01:11] <Tenen> thanks for all the help
[01:11] <Tenen> got the wifi to work was a dodgy install
[01:11] <Tenen> so  i reinstalled and it works
[01:11] <Tenen> can anyone tell me why i cant find skype by searchign with adaptive package manager
[01:11] <lazz0> nicolai_,it is, i make ringtones for my sony
[01:11] <lazz0> :)
[01:11] <nicolai_> Tenen: you need to enable restricted software.
[01:12] <Tenen> what is skype clients name in repository list, it cant find skyp
[01:12] <Tenen> how do i do that nicolai?
[01:12] <nicolai_> Tenen: You might also need to add this: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:12] <_Shade_> hey is there any way to have composite running smooth on gf2?
[01:13] <praecox> hey, I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, is there any way I can make Xgl uses Xinerama not TwinView?
[01:13] <praecox> use*
[01:13] <Tenen> ok umm nicolai that urls crashes my adapt manager
[01:13] <Tenen> it now quits
[01:14] <Tenen> nikolai broke my adapt manager :(
[01:14] <nicolai_> Tenen: System -> Adept -> manage repositories (sp? I use a different language) -> proprietary
[01:14] <nicolai_> Tenen: wait, how did you add it?
[01:15] <Tenen> i added it but now adaptive wont load it says : The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:15] <Tenen> that broke it :(
[01:15] <nicolai_> Tenen: it was just the homepage :P
[01:15] <nicolai_> Tenen: 2 sec
[01:15] <Tenen> snore
[01:15] <elite101> yes my adept is broken too i cant even add or remove programs?
[01:15] <ciacon> thanks lazz0
[01:15] <elite101> it wont let me open the notifyer upadte thing or even update adpet
[01:16] <elite101> adept*
[01:16] <tomi> check that your /etc/apt/sources.list is not corrupt
[01:16] <lazz0> hf sweetheart
[01:16] <tomi> i.e. typos. random letters
[01:16] <nicolai_> Tenen, elite101: First open this in root: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <elite101> how?
[01:17] <tomi> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:17] <Tenen> sudo http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:17] <Tenen> snore wrong paste
[01:17] <elite101> i tried to open up a .deb for limewire and now it "broke" while installing ever since then i cant get into adept and i was going to have to do a complete re-install
[01:17] <Tomi-idle> try sudo apt-get -f install
[01:17] <nicolai_> Tenen, elite101: One way to do this is to right click on the file, choose actions, and then "edit as root"
[01:17] <Tomi-idle> in terminal
[01:17] <Tenen> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[01:17] <Tenen>   Major opcode:  144
[01:18] <Tenen>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:18] <Tenen>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:18] <Tenen> Failed to open device
[01:18] <Tenen> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[01:18] <Tenen>   Major opcode:  144
[01:18] <Tenen>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:18] <Tenen>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:18] <Tenen> Failed to open device
[01:18] <Tomi-idle> Tenen: that's propably because you have wacom on on your xorg.conf
[01:18] <Tomi-idle> those are not to be worried about
[01:18] <elite101> edit what as root the .debain file?
[01:18] <elite101> debian*
[01:18] <nicolai_> Tenen: Many people break adept, just follow my instructions so far
[01:18] <Tenen> ok i fixed it
[01:18] <Tenen> thanks
[01:18] <Tomi-idle> Tenen: if you want the  warnings to go away and you dont have a wacom tablet. edit xorg.conf and remove the sections pointing to it. or # then
[01:18] <Tenen> i just had to remove that faulty repos i added
[01:19] <elite101> okay im in the source page
[01:19] <elite101> using konqueror
[01:19] <nicolai_> Tenen: So adept works now?
[01:19] <Tenen> so now i need the illegal repositories :P
[01:19] <Tenen> yeah i fixed it
[01:19] <Tenen> thanks
[01:19] <elite101> but i have to open it up in terminal
[01:19] <Tomi-idle> they're not illegal. lol
[01:19] <Tenen> i just had to remove that webpage i added as a repo
[01:19] <Tenen> well skype etc,
[01:19] <Tenen> i need those
[01:19] <Tomi-idle> unless you're in the us.. nm
[01:19] <Tomi-idle> they're proprietery
[01:20] <nicolai_> elite101: do you see anything that is out of the ordinary?
[01:20] <elite101> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[01:20] <Tomi-idle> closed source -- thus potentially dangerous since you can't check out the code
[01:20] <elite101> um
[01:20] <Tomi-idle> elite101: you need to edit it in root
[01:20] <TheRealInsane> Can anybody help me run a java program on linux?
[01:20] <elite101> ohh how do i sign in as root?
[01:20] <Tomi-idle> you can also press alt-f2 and type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:20] <elite101> yes i do it says failed something
[01:21] <Tomi-idle> if you use alt-f2 you need kdesu
[01:21] <_4strO> elite101: sudo ...
[01:21] <Tomi-idle> if you use konsole(or other terminal) you need sudo
[01:21] <elite101> what?
[01:21] <Tenen> sudo blah blah blah
[01:21] <nicolai_> elite101: kdesu kate '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:21] <elite101> wow thats all i can understand too many ppl
[01:21] <elite101> what
[01:21] <Tenen> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list - do that
[01:21] <Tenen> in a console
[01:21] <elite101> k
[01:21] <Tenen> then type in your password
[01:21] <Tenen> then an editor will popup
[01:21] <elite101> that made more sense
[01:21] <Tenen> remove the shitty repository you added
[01:21] <Tenen> and save
[01:21] <Tenen> then open adaptive
[01:22] <nicolai_> Tenen, elite101: Do NOT use Sudo in this case
[01:22] <Tenen> i used sudo and it fixed mine
[01:22] <Tenen> without sudo it didnt give me privs
[01:22] <Tenen> without sudo its like access denied bs
[01:22] <nicolai_> Tenen, elite101: you should use kdesu
[01:22] <elite101> okay it works :)
[01:22] <elite101> well this way works
[01:22] <elite101> good to its opend up in kate now
[01:22] <Tomi-idle> kdesu fails on console for me :/ almost always has
[01:22] <Tenen> if i wish to add the medibuntu shit to repository which address do i add?
[01:23] <elite101> well i have the source opend in kate now what?
[01:23] <nicolai_> elite101: It can lead to problems using sudo for gui's. kdesu is safer
[01:23] <nicolai_> Tenen: look at the webpage I gave you.
[01:23] <Tomi-idle> google "medibuntu repository codecs" :/
[01:23] <elite101> well this way works so why get frusturated over opeing something i dont even know what it is yet :S
[01:23] <nicolai_> Tenen: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:24] <elite101> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[01:24] <elite101> kate: WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[01:24] <Tenen> whats diff between skype static and normal skype
[01:24] <Tenen> i added it nicolai thanks
[01:24] <elite101> why do i have to open up the source in KATE?
[01:24] <Tomi-idle> static has the libs built in it
[01:24] <Tenen> elite101 you got it fixed yet?
[01:25] <Tomi-idle> or something like that
[01:25] <elite101> no i dont know what to do?
[01:25] <Tenen> elite caus ur source list is broken hence adapt dont work
[01:25] <Tenen> did you add any dodgy repository?
[01:25] <elite101> my problem is that i opend up a limewire file (.deb) and it broke durin install and now i cant get into anything adept like
[01:25] <elite101> how?
[01:25] <Tomi-idle> kate is the default editor in kde <.< .. you can use nano or any other if you like
[01:25] <Tenen> i think you can maybe just clear that file and replace it with what ive got in mine
[01:25] <nicolai_> elite101: kate can edit the file, but needs administrator priveledges.
[01:25] <Tenen> should work then
[01:26] <elite101> well i dont wanna screw my system over
[01:26] <nicolai_> elite101: ahh, then your problem most likely isn't with the sources list.
[01:26] <elite101> uhh i have to do another re-install the last time sudo crashed like 50times
[01:26] <elite101> thought so
[01:26] <TheRealInsane> Yaaay!
[01:27] <TheRealInsane> KDE games
[01:27] <nicolai_> elite101: no need to reinstall
[01:27] <elite101> well how do i uninstall it? the limewire
[01:27] <elite101> it wont let me at all no matter what u do
[01:27] <nicolai_> elite101: What does Adept say when you open it?
[01:27] <nicolai_> elite101: "read-only"?
[01:27] <elite101> uhhh srew privvate mssgs
[01:27] <elite101> i cant talk to ppl anyways
[01:28] <elite101> what
[01:28] <elite101> nicolai_, sorry tomany ppl talking to me
[01:28] <elite101> 1sec
[01:28] <Jahmon> rofl
[01:28] <Jahmon> i crashed client by flooding
[01:28] <Jahmon> snore
[01:28] <Jahmon> what is diff between skype and skype-static?
[01:28] <Jahmon> anyone care to explain
[01:29] <elite101> omg adept not even working?
[01:29] <elite101> i opend it up but its not loading now?
[01:29] <phimic> hi all
[01:29] <Jahmon> what diff between skype and skype-static plz
[01:29] <phimic> is the version info shown in dpkg -s a ubuntu specific version
[01:30] <nicolai_> elite101: not loading at all? then you need to type: ctrl + esc
[01:30] <nicolai_> elite101: search for adept
[01:30] <Jahmon> what is diff between skype and skype static
[01:30] <nicolai_> elite101: kill the process
[01:30] <Jahmon> one is 4mb bigger
[01:30] <elite101> nope
[01:30] <nicolai_> Jahmon: just install skype
[01:30] <elite101> nothing
[01:30] <Jahmon> what is skype static
[01:30] <elite101> my system is screwed
[01:31] <elite101> so u guys never download a .deb from limwire.com it will mess ur computer up
[01:31] <phimic> for example the package shorewall has the version 3.2.6 on the official website it has the version 4.0
[01:31] <nicolai_> elite101: no adept open?
[01:31] <elite101> nope
[01:31] <elite101> my system is screwed
[01:31] <elite101> stupid limewire
[01:31] <elite101> see what piracy does to  ur system
[01:31] <nicolai_> elite101: don't give up hope
[01:31] <elite101> well i cant do anything now
[01:31] <elite101> i cant tell u what it says im not sure exactly
[01:32] <runlevelten> who downloads debs from limewire?!  Make sure everything is saved, type ctrl + alt + backspace
[01:32] <Jahmon> any good software i should install?
[01:32] <cj_> how do i install flash for konqueror
[01:32] <runlevelten> If you actually phoned people up and asked them to coma and format your drive, your machine would last longer.
[01:32] <elite101> well when i do that bye
[01:33] <runlevelten> You would at least have a chance nobody could be bothered, lol
[01:33] <elite101> uh? me
[01:33] <Jahmon> what software is useful e.g. media codecs what can i install so movies /tv series work
[01:33] <elite101> well when i do a reboot then what?
[01:33] <Jahmon> and what is that ntfs thing for having root on windows drives
[01:34] <elite101> uhhh!!!
[01:34] <runlevelten> You've installed debs from limewire and are still running the system elite?
[01:34] <elite101> why do i wanna re-boot
[01:34] <nicolai_> elite101: then adept should be responding again, and we can find what needs fixing :)
[01:34] <elite101> okay bhrb
[01:34] <elite101> brb*
[01:34] <Jahmon> what is that ntfs changer thingy that allows ya to write to ntfs drives
[01:34] <Jahmon> anyone know?
[01:34] <nicolai_> Jahmon: ntfs-config
[01:34] <runlevelten> nicolai_: there is no way you should be advising people to keep running a machine after installing broken debs from limewire, tbh.
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> !ntfs-3g
[01:34] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:35] <Jahmon> and for media codecs where do i get that?
[01:35] <nicolai_> runlevelten: I have no idea what limewire is :P
[01:35] <runlevelten> kazaa, basically.
[01:35] <Jahmon> limewire is like kazaa a p2p program
[01:35] <nicolai_> runlevelten: so full of spyware?
[01:35] <Dragnslcr> And why would anyone download packages from Limewire?
[01:36] <Jahmon> what is a good media codec pack for linux?
[01:36] <runlevelten> nicolai_: in Linux binary packages, rootkits.
[01:36] <cj_> !f;ash
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f;ash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <cj_> !flash
[01:36] <runlevelten> nicolai_: by the dozen.
[01:36] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:36] <Jahmon> what is a good media codec pack for linux?
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> Does Limewire have packages that you can't for free anywhere else or something?
[01:36] <Jahmon> line in windows i use ace mega codec pack
[01:36] <Jahmon> dranslcr what they mean is he downloaded the .deb to install limewiere
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> !codecs | Jahmon
[01:36] <ubotu> Jahmon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <Jahmon> not from it
[01:36] <runlevelten> Dragnslcr: It's the worst possible place you could ever get a binary package from.
[01:37] <elite101> omg now nothing wants to run not even my wireless LAN thing man i messed up my system to the point u cant fix it xD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:37] <p1ranha> hi! i seem to be having problems changing my workgroup. where exactly do i find it in kde?
[01:37] <Jahmon> can anyone tell me a reliable media codec pack i can download?
[01:37] <nicolai_> runlevelten: So even though adept crashed during the install, it would be too risky to just fix it and let be. Got it.
[01:37] <runlevelten> Dragnslcr: Virtually every binary package on it is a rootkit, and if one of my users had installed one off there and given it root privs,
[01:37] <elite101> my computer is done somedays i swear i feel like kicking the computer to death
[01:37] <runlevelten> I'd call that an immediate reinstall
[01:37] <elite101> for me
[01:38] <elite101> yes
[01:38] <runlevelten> no way of making the system binaries or anything else safe now.
[01:38] <elite101> yes i wanna do another re-install! wuu!
[01:38] <Jahmon> runlevelten can you please tell me a good media codec pack to download
[01:38] <Dragnslcr> runlevelten- but what do they have that the repositories don't? Or is it one of those "Check out this great screensaver!" things?
[01:38] <runlevelten> elite101: Ah well, just put it down to experience
[01:38] <Jahmon> i reinstalled twice today :(
[01:38] <elite101> yeah i know but that sucks
[01:38] <Jahmon> caus i broke the first wifi install
[01:38] <elite101> i did it 3times this week
[01:38] <runlevelten> Dragnslcr: Check out this version of Maya with a rootkit in it, but yeah
[01:38] <Jahmon> and the install crashd second time round
[01:38] <Dragnslcr> Jahmon- not until you pay attention to what you were already told
[01:39] <Jahmon> i did i went to go look
[01:39] <elite101> i have 1problem
[01:39] <nicolai_> Jahmon: w32codecs
[01:39] <elite101> when i install it says failed for security updates?!?!?!
[01:39] <runlevelten> elite101: Be very wary of "linux warez". Not many people are interested in it on this side.
[01:39] <elite101> do u have to be connected to the internet for someone to install kubuntu?
[01:39] <Dragnslcr> elite101- nope
[01:39] <runlevelten> elite101: no
[01:39] <elite101> well it fails
[01:40] <Jahmon> how come torrent comes installed by default then runlevelten :P
[01:40] <elite101> for security
[01:40] <elite101> and thats not a good thing
[01:40] <Jahmon> and i'd use grabit or altbinz if i wanted wrez
[01:40] <nicolai_> elite101: You don not have to be connected to the internet, but if you are, it will install security updates made after the release.
[01:40] <elite101> ahh so im sscrewed becuase i have wireless
[01:40] <elite101> it wont install if my wireless card is on
[01:40] <elite101> i tried it befor
[01:41] <Jahmon> so nicolai w32 is the name of a codec pack
[01:41] <runlevelten> Jahmon: because you use torrents for lots of things. Giving dodgy packages root isn't one of them. Ever.
[01:41] <elite101> kubuntu 7.04 i downloaded of torrent
[01:41] <elite101> wich i cant use
[01:41] <runlevelten> I distribute software using torrents, and I get software using torrents - especially distros.
[01:41] <elite101> someone messed the CD up
[01:41] <Jahmon> i never download off torrens
[01:41] <elite101> i know
[01:41] <Jahmon> torrents
[01:41] <Jahmon> newserver for me
[01:41] <elite101> i will install 7.04
[01:41] <elite101> instead of 6.06
[01:41] <elite101> lol
[01:42] <elite101> that should be alot better
[01:42] <runlevelten> Jahmon: I don't mean that kind of thing :\
[01:42] <squirrel> how do i remove the link created with ln command?
[01:42] <elite101> well brb in like 1hour
[01:42] <elite101> im going to install 7.04
[01:42] <p1ranha> rm i guess
[01:42] <runlevelten> elite101: have fun :(
[01:42] <Jahmon> will whatever program that handles media in kubuntu auto dl codecs if im online or ?
[01:42] <elite101> lol
[01:42] <elite101> bye
[01:42] <_Shade_> i'd like to set up some desktop effects in my kubuntu. Would desktop-effects package help me with setting it up with xgl?
[01:42] <Dragnslcr> squirrel- same as any other file
[01:42] <cj_> how do i enable proposed updates in kubuntu?
[01:42] <runlevelten> !non-free
[01:42] <Jahmon> i need to find a decent codecs package for watching movies etc
[01:42] <p1ranha> how do i change my workgroup name?
[01:43] <nicolai_> Jahmon: w32codecs is THE media codec package for Linux.
[01:43] <runlevelten> damn, what's non-free codecs again?
[01:43] <runlevelten> !codecs
[01:43] <Jahmon> well i cant find it in the adapt list
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <Jahmon> i searched w32 codecs
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> Jahmon- maybe if you told us what format you're actually looking for?
[01:43] <runlevelten> thanks
[01:43] <runlevelten> jahmon ^
[01:43] <Jahmon> anything and everything :P like windows i just use a codec pack and it plays anything
[01:43] <nicolai_> !w32codecs
[01:43] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:43] <Jahmon> i cant be bothered to look for individual codecs
[01:43] <runlevelten> then don't.
[01:44] <runlevelten> "I want to swim in water and not get wet"
[01:44] <nicolai_> !restrictedformats
[01:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> I believe the ffmpeg packages support just about every major format
[01:44] <elite101> lol do i need files in the harddrive? for kubuntu i was just going to go on a mad frusturated rampage and delete system files?
[01:44] <elite101> maybe it will make my system work again?
[01:44] <p1ranha> just reinstall it
[01:44] <elite101> yeah i kno
[01:45] <runlevelten> yeah, ffmpeg, mplayer, realplayer, nothing you can't play really.
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> There's also an Ubuntu Restricted option in Adept Installer
[01:45] <runlevelten> except DRM infected files, but obviously you have to install malware to play those - not gonna happen.
[01:45] <Jahmon> so what package can i search for in adept manager for codes - w32 brings up nothing and i have the non free repository added caus i just dled skype
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> Jahmon- did you actually look at the link you've been given twice?
[01:46] <nicolai_> Jahmon: but did you install the medibuntu repository that I linked you too?
[01:46] <runlevelten> Jahmon: I don't mean to be funny, but you're completely ignoring it when you're told!!
[01:46] <nicolai_> *to
[01:46] <cj_> them links only reference ubuntu - i dont see the settings in adept
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> It tells you -exactly- what to do
[01:46] <Jahmon> i did i searchd w32
[01:46] <Jahmon> and i went to a ubuntu link bout gstreamer
[01:46] <squirrel> thanks Dragnslcr
[01:46] <Jahmon> but im a newb
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> !codecs | For the last time, Jahmon
[01:46] <ubotu> For the last time, Jahmon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:46] <Jahmon> it isnt showing up on adept and i did add the first repository nicolai gave me
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> Go follow the instructions
[01:47] <runlevelten> Jahmon: You can't expect other people to go and paste everything from those web pages into this channel, dude.
[01:47] <nicolai_> Dragnslcr: In his defence, the restrictedformats site used to be much simpler to follow
[01:47] <Dragnslcr> nicolai_- I don't see how it can be any simpler
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> There's only 3 steps for 7.04
[01:49] <nicolai_> Dragnslcr: yeah, okay, restricted extras. I just searched for w32codecs and couldn't find it :P
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> I don't have w32codecs installed, so I have no idea what it supports that the ffmpeg packages don't
[01:50] <Jahmon> hopefully everything
[01:51] <runlevelten> ooh, adept looks so much better if you switch everything to lucida sans unicode in sudo kcontrol
[01:51] <nicolai_> Dragnslcr: I have never used ffmpeg, but I haven't found a video format not supported by w32codecs
[01:52] <runlevelten> (size 7)
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> I haven't found a video format not supported by the ffmpeg library
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> wmv and mpg both work fine
[01:52] <runlevelten> there are some ogg issues iirc, which is ironic.
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[01:53] <runlevelten> but yeah, ffmpeg == swiss army knife
[01:53] <runlevelten> I use it for everything from wmv to 3gp
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Video players should be able to handle ogg without ffmpeg
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> I'd hope so, anyway
[01:53] <Jahmon> man shuttleworth clearly didnt invent kubuntu/ubuntu for south africans our bandwidth is so shitty it takes forever for updates
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> I don't think I've actually found any ogg video files
[01:53] <runlevelten> realplayer is good too.  The Linux Realplayer is a different kettle of fish, though.
[01:55] <Jahmon> for a 3gb cap, 384k dsl you are looking at 40 dollars a month
[01:55] <Jahmon> or so
[01:56] <Jahmon> and they term it broadband
[01:56] <Jahmon> max speed ofs 40k a sec
[01:56] <Jahmon> how shite is that
[01:56] <Jahmon> yeah but i bet its uncapped
[01:56] <Jahmon> bet you don get 3gb caps
[01:56] <Jahmon> where you hit 3gb and they cut you off
[01:56] <Jahmon> till next month
[01:56] <runlevelten> It is completely uncapped, that's part of why I pay 25 a month for it.
[01:56] <nicolai_> Jahmon: 100 mbit/s is 80 dollar/month here
[01:57] <Jahmon> unshaped too i bet
[01:57] <lazz0> Jahmon,i get 200-500k int peer and 2mb+ local peering for 10$
[01:57] <Jahmon> man fastest we got is like 4mb and that with say  10 gig cap will cost you about 100 dollars
[01:57] <lazz0> :)
[01:57] <lazz0> unlimited ofc
[01:57] <pawitp> My bandwidth isn't capped but highly shaped
[01:57] <p1ranha> 10 gb cap? upload and download?
[01:58] <Jahmon> yeah well ours is highly shaped and capped
[01:58] <Jahmon> so enjoy
[01:58] <Jahmon> yes
[01:58] <runlevelten> I could get 4 times the speed, but without the "benefits" I get :)
[01:58] <Jahmon> 10gb counts for u/l and d/l
[01:58] <p1ranha> including upload? that sucks
[01:58] <runlevelten> for a third of the price :)
[01:58] <Jahmon> yeah frikkin expensive
[01:58] <Jahmon> africa ftl
[01:58] <lazz0> no torrents 4u
[01:58] <p1ranha> hehe
[01:58] <Jahmon> we have a telecom monopoly tho
[01:58] <Jahmon> but in sept we get another rival company
[01:58] <Jahmon> yay
[01:58] <p1ranha> same issues with austrailia
[01:58] <runlevelten> tbh I use torrents on 512 without any real issue
[01:58] <Jahmon> yeah but atleast aus telekom is dcent
[01:58] <Jahmon> decent
[01:58] <runlevelten> but then I get access to much bigger lines when I want it.
[01:59] <p1ranha> *australia...their average package is 2 gb cap
[01:59] <Jahmon> and you didnt get affirmative action up the ying yang
[01:59] <Jahmon> i remember the days of electron/phoenix and zardoz
[01:59] <Jahmon> remember reading about that shit
[01:59] <Jahmon> australians were always in the news for hacking
[01:59] <Jahmon> was funny
[01:59] <pawitp> We call 128k broadband
[01:59] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Jahmon
[01:59] <ubotu> Jahmon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:59] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[01:59] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:00] <nicolai_> Isn't it annoying having a capped connection? Having to think of how much you can download?
[02:00] <Jahmon> very annoying
[02:00] <Jahmon> i buy 30gb local only accs and dl as much as i can locally
[02:00] <Jahmon> then the 3gb i use international only
[02:00] <Jahmon> i have to run 2 accounts and route traffic int to int conn, local to local
[02:00] <PriceChild> Jahmon, nicolai_, You are offtopic. Please move to #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:01] <Jahmon> thats another thing
[02:01] <Jahmon> how cna i sort out routing in linux
[02:01] <Jahmon> i use routesentry in windows
[02:01] <Jahmon> to sort int/local apart
[02:01] <runlevelten> define sort it
[02:01] <runlevelten> *out
[02:01] <Jahmon> and seperate traffic to corresponding connection
[02:01] <runlevelten> don't you have a router to do that stuff with?
[02:02] <Jahmon> well in windows i use a local only acc and int only acc, i run em both at the same time and routesentry routes the local traffic thru local con and int through international con
[02:02] <Jahmon> as cap is so expensive i cant afford to waste it
[02:02] <pawitp> define local
[02:02] <pawitp> interms of ip
[02:02] <Jahmon> local as in local only , only south africa
[02:02] <Jahmon> shit a vast range
[02:02] <Jahmon> oops
[02:02] <Jahmon> sorry
[02:02] <runlevelten> :\
[02:02] <Jahmon> man ill probably find an ip table somewhere
[02:03] <pawitp> You can alway use the routing table
[02:03] <Jahmon> and ask the same people i got routesentry off
[02:03] <Jahmon> im sure the south african users will know
[02:03] <pawitp> To route traffic
[02:03] <Jahmon> caus they got the same issue
[02:03] <Jahmon> alot of them use a box with ipcop to route
[02:03] <Jahmon> i know that
[02:03] <Jahmon> others use mikrotek board
[02:03] <TheRealInsane> Can anybody tell me how to install flash for Konquerer?
[02:04] <Jahmon> cant you adept it
[02:04] <Jahmon> and just search flash
[02:04] <Jahmon> and go install
[02:04] <TheRealInsane> I did
[02:04] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:04] <TheRealInsane> I installed flashplugin-nonfree
[02:04] <TheRealInsane> But:
[02:04] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: and it works in firefox?
[02:04] <Scorpaen> good morning folks
[02:04] <Scorpaen> i'm having a problem with oidentd on gutys
[02:04] <Scorpaen> *gutsy
[02:04] <pawitp> the plugin is the the recommended list
[02:05] <TheRealInsane> It says in it's description "Konqueror can also use the Flash plugin if konquerer-nsplugins is installed"
[02:05] <runlevelten> TheRealInsane: you need to quit browsers, start your mozilla browser (be that seamonkey/ff/whatever) then start konqy again if it isn't working
[02:05] <TheRealInsane> I don't have mozilla, at least not for linux, so I can't run it
[02:05] <Scorpaen> it only listens on ipv6 not ipv4
[02:05] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: yep, open konqueror, settings, plugins
[02:05] <Scorpaen> tcp6       0      0 *:auth                  *:*                     LISTEN
[02:05] <runlevelten> no firefox, no seamonkey?
[02:06] <TheRealInsane> Let's see
[02:06] <Jahmon> ok skype is scaring me - all my contacts are gone
[02:07] <Jahmon> why is skype only showing test call under my contacts
[02:07] <Jahmon> it says ungrouped contacts
[02:07] <Jahmon> 1/1
[02:07] <Jahmon> i got like 10 contacts missing
[02:08] <pawitp> re-login?
[02:08] <Jahmon> only1 contact
[02:09] <Jahmon> wird all my skype contacts gone
[02:09] <Jahmon> going to see if windows like that too
[02:09] <Jahmon> thanks for help all
[02:10] <TheRealInsane> Ok, I configured Konquerer and made sure it scanned for netscape plugins
[02:10] <TheRealInsane> But when trying to watch youtube videos, it gives me "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player."
[02:10] <TheRealInsane> Javascript is definately globally active
[02:11] <TheRealInsane> Otherwise, is there a way to do a 100% export from windows firefox into linux firefox?
[02:12] <nicolai_> TheRealInsane: you can export your bookmarks easily
[02:12] <TheRealInsane> Whoops, IRC crashed on me
[02:18] <Darkrift> help! my computer rebooted and now im at 640x480 and cant change it!!!
[02:19] <nicolai_> Darkrift: I've tried that. Go to system settings -> monitor & display -> hardware
[02:20] <runlevelten> TheRealInsane: you can import the bookmarks.html from your old firefox install.
[02:20] <nicolai_> Darkrift: If it says "monitor #1: generic" you need to specify your screen.
[02:20] <Darkrift> didnt help :(
[02:21] <Darkrift> i selected generic flat panel 1280x800 (my screen size) and it wont do that one now
[02:21] <nicolai_> Darkrift: damn, you're fast :P
[02:22] <nicolai_> Darkrift: who made your screen, what brand is it?
[02:22] <Darkrift> its a laptop
[02:22] <nicolai_> ahh
[02:22] <Darkrift> compaq presario v6120us
[02:22] <Darkrift> widescreen
[02:22] <Darkrift> it was working!!!
[02:23] <jonathan_> somebody help me with kubuntu startup
[02:23] <bastid_raZor> jonathan_, heh, i guess you're too lazy to view the wiki?
[02:23] <jonathan_> what wiki?
[02:23] <jonathan_> newbie in here dude
[02:23] <nicolai_> !wiki
[02:24] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[02:24] <fhd> I have a KDE problem: I want a second control bar only as a taskbar. this works just fine, but I cannot configure that bars size - any hints?
[02:29] <bilal> can someone help me kubuntu is not detecting my mic
[02:29] <bilal> earlier it worked but after reinstalling kubuntu its not working
[02:32] <genii> heh
[02:32] <nicolai_> bilal: click the sound icon -> mixer -> input -> mic
[02:35] <bilal> still cant record
[02:36] <bilal> this problem occurd after I reinstalled kubuntu
[02:38] <vlt> Hello. When I click on an email saved to folder it opens with kmail. But when the file name matches *.eml I get an error: "Invalid Address mhtml:/...". How can I avoid this?
[02:38] <TheRealInsane> Can anybody here tell me how to use emerald theme manager?
[02:41] <marckie> TheRealInsane: Well you use that together with Beryl (which I use) to choose the theme you wanna use
[02:42] <TheRealInsane> marckie, But how does it work? I can't seem to choose the theme
[02:43] <TheRealInsane> I tried typing in "emerald" in the Konsole, but it just gives me an empty prompt
[02:45] <TheRealInsane> I have Beryl running right now, and Emerald theme manager
[02:45] <TheRealInsane> I selected the theme I want
[02:45] <TheRealInsane> Now what do I do to actually use it?
[02:46] <TheRealInsane> Please!?? I've been trying to activate it for hours
[02:46] <TheRealInsane> Trying all the emerald command line things I could think of
[02:55] <praecox> is there any way I can move kwallet and stored passwords to new computer?
[02:55] <elite101> i love kubuntu i swear when i want something to work it does? now adept is working? i love this cpmputer so so much :)
[02:55] <praecox> in other words, how am I suppose to backup kwallet passwords?
[02:55] <elite101> my adept works so i dont have to re-install now :)
[02:58] <bilal> can some tell me how to reconfigure my sound card
[02:58] <igor>    ?
[02:58] <igor> is there everyone under Kubuntu?
[02:58] <igor> Windows rules
[02:59] <igor> Windows rules
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[02:59] <igor> Windows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rulesWindows rules
[02:59] <igor> yes
[02:59] <bilal> windows rule what? your brain
[03:00] <boris_> Windowsux
[03:01] <boris_> in windows u just have to open the window and bugs get in
[03:02] <Roey> hey all
[03:03] <Roey> crimsun:  hi!
[03:03] <boris_> hello
[03:03] <Roey> hello boris_
[03:08] <Roey> can anyone help me with a sound issue?  I've disabled the onboard via82cxxx sound chip through the BIOS, yet ALSA is somehow still configured to try and use that as the default...   At least it sets up sound properly.
[03:11] <PhinnFort> Roey: does not
[03:12] <PhinnFort> Roey: I had to help a friend of mine set up sound in windows, it was a true pain to hunt down the right drivers and getting it to play nice
[03:12] <Roey> PhinnFort:  yeah but in your case it was just a matter of drivers.  Here you have to learn the Zen of Linux Kernel Sound.
[03:13] <PhinnFort> Roey: point case is, "windows" and "linux" doesn't do sound, it's the drivers fault
[03:13] <PhinnFort> Roey: and here, I just installed Kubuntu, and sound came magically
[03:13] <Roey> PhinnFort:  ahaha :)
[03:13] <PhinnFort> aka. better than windows (tm)
[03:13] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:13] <Roey> PhinnFort:  seriously though, my situation sucks
[03:13] <Roey> :P
[03:13] <PhinnFort> Roey: well, maybe I can help you;)
[03:13] <PhinnFort> Roey: what kind of soundcard do you have/what is the problem?
[03:14] <Roey> PhinnFort:  well I have an on-board via82cxxx chip that I've disabled in the BIOS after I couldn't find any other way of setting ALSA to treat my Chaintec AV-710 soundcard as the default (card 0)
[03:15] <PhinnFort> Roey: why do you need it do be 0?
[03:15] <PhinnFort> I thought all self-respecting alsa-supporting linux programs had it configurable
[03:15] <Roey> PhinnFort:  because xine and everything above alsa (like kde and mpg123-alsa) are set to card 0 and I don't want to have to make all these individual changes.
[03:16] <PhinnFort> looked at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php?
[03:17] <Roey> PhinnFort:  well I have my asound.conf for the chaintec just fine
[03:17] <elite101_> whats the line for java?
[03:17] <PhinnFort> have you tried setting it as default soundcard?
[03:17] <Roey> PhinnFort:  how?
[03:17] <Roey> with alsaconf?
[03:17] <PhinnFort> !java > elite101_
[03:17] <Roey> there's no alsaconf in ubuntu :P
[03:18] <elite101_> yeah that was no help i SAYED THE COMMAND LINE
[03:18] <elite101_> xD
[03:18] <PhinnFort> !find alsaconf
[03:18] <ubotu> Package/file alsaconf does not exist in feisty
[03:19] <elite101_> hello? does any one know the commmand line for java
[03:19] <PhinnFort> elite101_: "java"?
[03:19] <elite101_> yeah
[03:19] <elite101_> what is the command line for it apt get-install...?
[03:19] <PhinnFort> Roey: better explanation here: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?title=FAQ026
[03:19] <PhinnFort> elite101_: apt-get install jre?
[03:19] <elite101_> yeah
[03:20] <elite101_> but correct spelling
[03:20] <Roey> PhinnFort:  ok, I'm looking at that
[03:20] <PhinnFort> sun-java6-jre
[03:20] <elite101_> jeEz
[03:20] <PhinnFort> or sun-java5-jre for 1.5
[03:20] <PhinnFort> "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre"
[03:20] <PhinnFort> capisce?
[03:20] <elite101_> omg i need the whole line
[03:21] <elite101_> correct spelling
[03:21] <PhinnFort> that was the "correct spelling"
[03:21] <PhinnFort> and the whole frigging line
[03:21] <elite101_> w.e
[03:21] <PhinnFort> "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre"
[03:21] <PhinnFort> even with sudo
[03:23] <Roey> PhinnFort:  aaaaah, I see now that my .asoundrc.asoundconf contains the line "defaults.ctl.card V8237"
[03:23] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:23] <nicolai_> PhinnFort: he didn't seem to be very grateful :/
[03:23] <Roey> PhinnFort:  you think I could just move the file out of the way and it'd be regenerated?
[03:23] <Roey> *correctly
[03:23] <Roey> ?
[03:23] <PhinnFort> Roey: I don't think it's needed at all
[03:23] <PhinnFort> according to the official alsa docs
[03:23] <PhinnFort> Roey: just try moving it, and re-login or reboot
[03:24] <PhinnFort> nicolai_: well, that's life;)
[03:25] <Roey> PhinnFort:  ah okay, thanks :")
[03:25] <PhinnFort> np;)
[03:25] <PhinnFort> elite101_: did it work?
[03:25] <Roey> PhinnFort:  I moved it out of the way, launched alsamixer and it shows me my chaintec.... ahhhh, perrrrrrrfect :) thanks :) :)
[03:25] <elite101_> no i have like 30adept running
[03:25] <elite101_> it works the line
[03:26] <PhinnFort> Roey: nice;)
[03:26] <elite101_> but it have live 4adpets running and i cant kill them
[03:26] <elite101_> adepts*
[03:26] <nicolai_> elite101_: you can only have one adept running at a time
[03:26] <elite101_> lol i know
[03:26] <PhinnFort> heh
[03:26] <elite101_> but for some reason when i boot up it shows 5 now
[03:26] <nicolai_> elite101_: open ksysguard
[03:27] <elite101_> im in there rite now
[03:27] <elite101_> i can kill them
[03:27] <PhinnFort> hit alt+f2, and type "killall adept_manager -s KILL"
[03:27] <Roey> PhinnFort:  now another issue... the mx1000 mouse.  I tried the ubuntu wiki page on the mx1000, and it worked when I used to start x manually with startx.. but now with KDM, I'm back to Square One:  the buttons I've defined in my .xbindkeys don't work, and neither does the scrollwheel!  Is KDM using another xorg.conf or something???
[03:28] <PhinnFort> Roey: do you have a link to the wiki page?
[03:28] <nicolai_> elite101_: every adept in ksysguard has a PID. If you type sudo kill [PID]  then the program should die.
[03:28] <PhinnFort> Roey: KDM should use the same xorg.conf as any other login manager and startx
[03:28] <PhinnFort> or just use killall
[03:28] <elite101_> okay
[03:28] <PhinnFort> :D
[03:28] <elite101_> yeha
[03:28] <elite101_> omg there still there o.0
[03:28] <PhinnFort> can' be
[03:28] <PhinnFort> *t
[03:28] <elite101_> yes they are xD
[03:29] <PhinnFort> -s KILL makes the kernel steal away all their stuff
[03:29] <PhinnFort> there's even a song about it
[03:29] <elite101_> omg this is very annyoing im just going to pull the plug on my computer i love to make my HDD choke
[03:29] <nicolai_> PhinnFort: doesn't it have to be in sudo?
[03:29] <PhinnFort> reboot
[03:29] <elite101_> k gonna choke the harddrive now
[03:29] <elite101_> lol yeah
[03:29] <PhinnFort> nicolai_: nope
[03:29] <PhinnFort> http://www.monzy.com/intro/killdashnine_lyrics.html
[03:29] <elite101_> i will shut down so this way things wont be running in the background as when i rebooted
[03:30] <Roey> PhinnFort:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse  <-- note it doesn't talk about kdm or gdm
[03:30] <PhinnFort> -9 = -KILL
[03:30] <elite101_> night of the living adepts*
[03:30] <PhinnFort> *-s KILL
[03:30] <PhinnFort> we should make a movie about it
[03:30] <elite101_> lol
[03:30] <elite101_> i swear that line didnt work?
[03:31] <_Shade_> how can i check which version of nvidia drivers i am using?
[03:31] <PhinnFort> elite101_: which adept is it?
[03:31] <PhinnFort> is it the manager?
[03:31] <elite101_> yeah
[03:31] <elite101_> like 6  of them running
[03:31] <elite101_> omg i tried it again there still there
[03:31] <PhinnFort> elite101_: try hitting ctrl-alt-escape and clicking on one of them
[03:32] <elite101_> no there not accutally open just running in the background
[03:32] <PhinnFort> elite101_: try running "ps aux | grep adept" in a konsole
[03:32] <elite101_> k
[03:33] <PhinnFort> Roey: I can't find any mention of startx in that guide?
[03:33] <elite101_> now what
[03:33] <PhinnFort> elite101_: did it return anything?
[03:33] <stdin> pastebin is your friend
[03:33] <elite101_> yeah
[03:33] <PhinnFort> !pastebin
[03:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:34] <elite101_> yes stuff came up
[03:34] <PhinnFort> elite101_: run "ps aux | grep adept | wc -l" then
[03:35] <elite101_> it shows 9
[03:35] <elite101_> just the number
[03:35] <Tomi-idle> _Shade_: _Shade_install nvidia_settings (if you mean the version of the binary driver)
[03:35] <PhinnFort> yeah... you have them running
[03:35] <elite101_> so?
[03:35] <elite101_> how do i KILL them all
[03:35] <Roey> PhinnFort:  not startx, kdm.  I don't know why with KDM it's not honoring my .xbindkeys
[03:35] <Tomi-idle> or if you're not sure if you have free or binary driver. use "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv"
[03:36] <Roey> PhinnFort:  and why it's not honoring the mx1000 mouse setup I've specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:36] <Tomi-idle> if it says driver "nv" it's free one. if it's driver "nvidia" then it's proprietery
[03:36] <PhinnFort> elite101_: when you ran the first command, there should be some numbers after your username
[03:36] <elite101_> yeah
[03:36] <PhinnFort> "martin   10700  0.0  0.2  14956  1060 pts/2    R+   15:35   0:00 ps aux"
[03:36] <Tomi-idle> *nvidia-settings even
[03:36] <elite101_> no
[03:36] <elite101_> not like that
[03:36] <PhinnFort> elite101_: now do "kill -9 10700"
[03:37] <PhinnFort> only change number for the right one
[03:37] <elite101_> i dont have a number
[03:37] <PhinnFort> Roey: is xbindkeys running?
[03:37] <elite101_> what NUMBER I SEE LOTS?
[03:37] <Roey> PhinnFort:  ah, not sure
[03:37] <Roey> PhinnFort:  what, it's a daemon or something?
[03:37] <PhinnFort> "Add xbindkeys to your startup programs in the System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs"
[03:37] <PhinnFort> from the guide
[03:37] <Roey> ahhh one sec.
[03:38] <Roey> that same page??
[03:38] <PhinnFort> yup
[03:38] <stdin> PhinnFort: that's for gnome
[03:38] <elite101_> i dont have a number
[03:38] <elite101_> so i cant do this?
[03:38] <PhinnFort> stdin: well, it has to be running
[03:38] <PhinnFort> elite101_: can you pase the output of the first command?
[03:38] <elite101_>  ps aux | grep adep
[03:38] <elite101_> ?
[03:39] <skyline_> hello
[03:39] <elite101_> ps aux | grep adept | wc -l
[03:39] <stdin> elite101_: the 1st one
[03:39] <Roey> PhinnFort:  ahh.  I use KDE here; what should I do?
[03:39] <elite101_> what?
[03:39] <skyline> skyline
[03:39] <elite101_> i gave u the first one
[03:39] <Roey> "Add xbindkeys to your startup programs in the System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs"  <-- I use KDE not GNOME
[03:39] <elite101_> ps aux | grep adep ps aux | grep adep ps aux | grep adep ps aux | grep adep
[03:39] <stdin> elite101_: no, the output of it
[03:39] <elite101_> oh
[03:39] <Roey> PhinnFort:  "Add xbindkeys to your startup programs in the System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs"  <-- I use KDE not GNOME
[03:39] <PhinnFort> Roey: go to ".kde/Autostart" folder
[03:39] <Roey> that's what I meant
[03:39] <Roey> ahhhhhhh
[03:39] <elite101_> root      5696  2.5 16.0  80476 41020 ?        S    08:53   1:00 adept
[03:39] <elite101_> root      5880  0.0  4.4  24972 11500 ?        Ss   09:18   0:00 kdesu adept
[03:39] <PhinnFort> Roey: right-click, new link to program
[03:40] <elite101_> root      5881  0.0  3.9  25804  9996 ?        S    09:18   0:00 adept
[03:40] <stdin> Roey: put a link in that folder
[03:40] <Roey> PhinnFort:  ok, then what, make a small shellsript?
[03:40] <PhinnFort> !pastebin > elite101_
[03:40] <elite101_> root      5882  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    09:18   0:00 [adept]  <defunc                                                              t>
[03:40] <elite101_> elite101  6075  0.3  5.2  26316 13576 ?        S    09:23   0:02 kdesu -u root -                                                              c kdesu adept
[03:40] <elite101_> root      6086  0.1  4.4  24976 11504 ?        Ss   09:23   0:00 kdesu adept
[03:40] <elite101_> root      6087  0.0  3.8  25800  9992 ?        S    09:23   0:00 adept
[03:40] <elite101_> root      6088  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    09:23   0:00 [adept]  <defunc                                                              t>
[03:40] <Roey> stdin:  oh, ok
[03:40] <elite101_> elite101  6236  0.0  0.3   2880   816 pts/6    S+   09:33   0:00 grep adep
[03:40] <elite101_> whats that?
[03:40] <stdin> !paste | elite101_
[03:40] <ubotu> elite101_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:40] <elite101_> yeah sorry
[03:40] <elite101_> but i have no number by my user
[03:41] <josef> hai everybody i got a problem can somebody help me out
[03:42] <stdin> elite101_: try  "sudo kill -9 5696 5880 5881 5882 6075 6086 6087 6088"
[03:42] <Roey> PhinnFort:  I'm connected to my home system through ssh; is it the same thing if I make a symlink to /.../bin/xbindkeys ?
[03:42] <PhinnFort> Roey: probably
[03:42] <PhinnFort> Roey: afaik, kdeinit just tries to run anything it finds in that folder
[03:42] <stdin> !ask | josef
[03:42] <ubotu> josef: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <josef> ok
[03:43] <josef> i installed kubuntu in my laptop but the soundcard is not working it seems like disabled
[03:44] <Roey> PhinnFort:  aaaah
[03:44] <_Shade_> Tomi-idle:  how the hell i've managed to install the 1.0-9631 drivers on my gf2 card???
[03:44] <Roey> PhinnFort:  then why is it that when I do start...oh... becuase before I got KDM running, I had xbindkeys as a statement in my .xinitrc... but now with KDM set up, it bypasses my .xinitrc completely
[03:44] <elite101_> stdin. thanks that worked !!
[03:44] <PhinnFort> Roey: :)
[03:45] <stdin> josef: take a look at the sound help wiki
[03:45] <stdin> !sound | josef
[03:45] <ubotu> josef: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:45] <elite101_> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[03:45] <elite101_> thats what adpet says?
[03:45] <stdin> !aptfix | elite101_
[03:45] <ubotu> elite101_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:45] <josef> ok  thanks stdin and ubotu for the info... i will check it out
[03:46] <genii> elite101_: Only do the fix if your update manager is not causing the message
[03:46] <elite101_> oh what?!!?
[03:46] <genii> elite101_: If your update manager is running just let it finish first
[03:46] <elite101_> k nvm
[03:47] <Tomi-idle> _Shade_: i think the legacy card drivers were in the same package in the older versions
[03:54] <elite101> k i need that line for java the whole thing correct spelling i got adept to work again
[03:55] <elite101> but i cant select OKAY for the licsense agreement using adept
[03:55] <elite101> so i have to use konsole
[03:55] <pag> elite101, exactly.
[03:55] <elite101> what?
[03:56] <pag> elite101, you need to use konsole (or synaptic)
[03:56] <elite101> yeah i know
[03:56] <elite101> but what is the line for it?
[03:56] <nicolai_> elite101: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[03:56] <elite101> thanks
[03:57] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:57] <nicolai_> pag: I've installed Java with Adept
[03:57] <nicolai_> pag: It isn't impossible
[03:57] <pag> nicolai_, wow.. you're lucky :)
[03:57] <elite101> omg adept is stuck again
[03:57] <elite101> this is getting really anyoing
[03:57] <elite101> it wont kill itself
[03:58] <BluesKaj> updating wirh adept notifier ?
[03:58] <nicolai_> elite101: at least now you know what to do :)
[03:58] <elite101> yeah lol
[03:58] <elite101> whats the line to kill only 1adept this time?
[03:58] <elite101> lmao
[03:59] <nicolai_> pag: I remember it was a pain back in Dapper, but Feisty wasn't that bad
[03:59] <BluesKaj> don't , wait til you need a package
[03:59] <elite101> im using dapper xD 6.06.1
[03:59] <BluesKaj> don't use it I mean
[03:59] <nicolai_> elite101: ahh
[04:00] <elite101> i need to kill that stupid adept
[04:00] <elite101> so i can get rid of limewire
[04:00] <nicolai_> elite101: Adept in dapper can be annoying :P
[04:00] <elite101> its causing alot of problems and i think i broke java
[04:00] <pag> nicolai_, heh. I experienced that pain once (in dapper maybe - not sure about that) and almost haven't touched Adept ever since :D
[04:00] <BluesKaj> give it time , 15mins will time it out
[04:00] <elite101> no it wont
[04:00] <elite101> i rebooted the computer and it was still runing
[04:00] <elite101> 9adepts
[04:00] <elite101> 9****
[04:01] <elite101> i need the command line to kill adept (once and for all >:)
[04:01] <elite101> it says vmsize 91,000
[04:02] <nicolai_> elite101: sudo kill -9       and then all the [PID]  numbers
[04:02] <elite101> it says its "sleeping"
[04:02] <elite101> did u put 9* is that for real?
[04:03] <nicolai_> elite101: that was the command you used the last time
[04:04] <nicolai_> elite101: The PID numbers just have to be replaced with the new ones
[04:04] <elite101> because i dont have 9prosses running this time only 1
[04:04] <elite101> because i dont have 9prosses running this time only 1
[04:05] <nicolai_> elite101: the "-9" isn't the number of processes.  If that is true you would need a reinstall.
[04:11] <elite101> reinstall...
[04:12] <elite101> what?
[04:12] <elite101> limewire?
[04:12] <elite101> no!!!
[04:12] <Tomi-idle> or use proggies to remove rootkis
[04:12] <elite101> i cant get rid of it
[04:12] <nicolai_> elite101: reinstall Kubuntu
[04:12] <BluesKaj> elite101, did youcheck on details in adept while trying to install java ? it will stall the installation if you don't agree (yes) to the java licence in the textbox.
[04:12] <Tomi-idle> limewire stinks :D
[04:12] <elite101> i cant thou
[04:12] <elite101> yes i know
[04:12] <elite101> it can screw your computer up
[04:13] <nicolai_> elite101: don't you have an installation CD?
[04:13] <elite101> Bluekaj, i cant select OKAY!!!!!!!! in adept becuase it wont let me. i can upgrade java in terminal because of limewire issues
[04:13] <elite101> yes
[04:13] <elite101> but no re-install
[04:13] <elite101> im not re-installing i reinstall this more than windows
[04:13] <BluesKaj> ca you see the details ?
[04:13] <pag> elite101, why it won't let you to do it in terminal?
[04:14] <elite101> beacuse of limeiwre
[04:14] <nicolai_> BluesKaj: It's a dapper install. clicking the okay can be impossible on some computers
[04:14] <elite101> its cupport
[04:14] <pag> elite101, what is the error message...
[04:14] <BluesKaj> not okay ... it will ask Y or N
[04:14] <elite101> it trys to install limewire when i go to install java / java is broken and trys to upgrade from the last time i installed it but it broke
[04:14] <elite101> err
[04:14] <elite101> i need the java line
[04:14] <elite101> for the 20th time
[04:15] <elite101> u think by now i would memorize it
[04:15] <pag> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:15] <nicolai_> elite101: you could have copied it to knotes
[04:15] <marckie> so u can install limewire in kubuntu?
[04:15] <elite101> no
[04:15] <elite101> omg
[04:16] <nicolai_> elite101: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[04:16] <elite101> can i explain the whole storry beacuse ur givin me false info because i gave u falseinfo
[04:16] <BluesKaj> it's called frostwire in linux AFAIK'
[04:16] <elite101> can i explain the whole storry beacuse ur givin me false info because i gave u falseinfo
[04:17] <elite101> i download limewire and rite click and installed it from a deb package. it seemed to work and then it need java6 so i tried to run java 6 but something broke in limewire install so i cant use java in konsole becuase it trys to fix it and i cant upgrade java in adpet because it wot let me get passed 7% and it wont let me select okay XD
[04:18] <pag> elite101, sudo dpkg -r limewire
[04:18] <elite101> it says thisnow once i try to install java6 E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-bin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[04:18] <stdin> elite101: that's because you need to accept the Java licence. you need to install jave from konsole
[04:18] <stdin> elite101: you need multiverse
[04:18] <elite101> yeah but it wont work!!!!!!!!!
[04:18] <stdin> !repo
[04:18] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:19] <elite101> i did that already im ot a nob
[04:19] <elite101> not*
[04:19] <elite101> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove limewire which isn't installed.
[04:19] <elite101> lol thats funny why can i run it?
[04:19] <elite101> stu[id kubunt
[04:19] <stdin> elite101: are you on 64bit?
[04:19] <elite101> omg now i cant type
[04:19] <elite101> no 32
[04:20] <stdin> hmm
[04:20] <elite101> i386/ x86/32bit
[04:20] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[04:20] <stdin> hey ksivaji :)
[04:20] <Tomi-idle> x68_64 ftw
[04:20] <Tomi-idle> 68? lol
[04:20] <elite101> lol its funny how it says limewire isnt installed when it is
[04:20] <ksivaji> is there anyone using quanta here
[04:21] <Tomi-idle> i tried quanta but fell back to nvu (kompozer)
[04:21] <Tomi-idle> for simple pages
[04:21] <pag> elite101, are you sure that package name is right?
[04:21] <marckie> yeah... me too... im confused.
[04:22] <elite101> i need to remove limwire
[04:22] <persen> hi, my PC died so i need to replace motherboard/cpu (which i already have), but how does kubuntu linux cope with so much hardware change? does it try to resolve things automagically on startup?
[04:23] <elite101> yeah
[04:23] <elite101> :)
[04:23] <anna> hello everyone.i have a problem while trying to upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10.the error message is as follows : Failed to fetch http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.10-61_all.deb MD5Sum mismatch
[04:23] <elite101> it loads drivers and everything
[04:23] <anna> can anyone help me?
[04:23] <elite101> so anyways
[04:23] <persen> elite101, are you sure?
[04:23] <elite101> i need to remove limeiwre
[04:23] <elite101> limewire
[04:23] <elite101> in order for this mess to be solved
[04:24] <marckie> hi anna
[04:24] <anna> hi marckie
[04:24] <marckie> might be a server problem
[04:24] <elite101> the only was to install java is in adept but i cant hit okaY??
[04:24] <marckie> try it one more time
[04:24] <elite101> fu*k konsole it wont help
[04:24] <elite101> tried a million times
[04:24] <elite101> nope stupid limewire
[04:24] <persen> elite101, is it a SUNs EULA youre seeing?
[04:24] <elite101> i new it was a bad idea
[04:25] <anna> i ve already tried  it more than ones
[04:25] <Roey> HomeRoey:  mark.
[04:25] <elite101> SUNS
[04:25] <elite101> JAVA SUN JRE 6
[04:25] <persen> remember i had to scroll ridiculous long to install it
[04:25] <BluesKaj> elite101, stop being a drama queen and have alittle patience , there are others seeking help here too
[04:25] <elite101> i know
[04:25] <elite101> but its pissing me off why it isnt working
[04:25] <persen> elite101, Did you answer my question?
[04:25] <fossbud> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Java_.26_Non-Media_Browser_Plug-ins
[04:25] <elite101> why make it so u can download packets from java but yet no install it?
[04:25] <anna> marckie is it a problem with my repositories??
[04:26] <elite101> persen, i sayed SUN!!!!!!!!
[04:26] <persen> think you not
[04:26] <elite101> what?
[04:26] <elite101> i sayed it up there
[04:26] <elite101> in caps
[04:26] <persen> elite101, and come down a bit.
[04:26] <elite101> but its making me soo mad
[04:26] <elite101> i might have to do a re-install
[04:27] <elite101> okay im updating java in adept now. so what happens if i cant click on <ok> ?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> elite101, try this :sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:27] <nicolai_> elite101: hit the tab key
[04:28] <elite101> ,k
[04:28] <nicolai_> elite101: i think that was what I did back then
[04:28] <elite101> it says this dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java6-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[04:28] <elite101> :S
[04:28] <elite101> nope tab doesnt work
[04:28] <elite101> nothing works
[04:29] <elite101> stupid adept why would someone make it so that u can download the packets but not install them?
[04:29] <BluesKaj> elite101, click on details
[04:29] <rbrunhuber> how can I change the hostname in (k)ubuntu
[04:29] <anna> hello everyone.i have a problem while trying to upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10.the error message is as follows : Failed to fetch http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.10-61_all.deb MD5Sum mismatch
[04:30] <elite101> sorry i dont see detail?
[04:30] <nicolai_> elite101: it's a bug fixed in later versions
[04:30] <elite101> details where
[04:30] <elite101> why is java have to be a pain in the neck?
[04:30] <nicolai_> elite101: When Adept is configuring there is button called details
[04:31] <elite101> i hite that aleardy
[04:31] <elite101> already
[04:31] <pag> rbrunhuber, kcontol -> Internet & Network -> Network Settings -> Domain Name System -tab
[04:31] <elite101> obv why wouldnt i be saying i cant hit okay?
[04:31] <rbrunhuber> pag: Need it on the console. this is server.
[04:32] <pag> rbrunhuber, oh...
[04:32] <nicolai_> elite101: click on ok, then tab then ok then enter
[04:32] <nicolai_> elite101: sometimes a GUi requires clickfest
[04:32] <stdin> anna: try changing to a different mirror for the upgrade, seems the mirror you're using has a bad file
[04:33] <anna> stdin: how can i do that?
[04:33] <elite101> nope
[04:33] <PhinnFort> does anyone else experience crashes when trying to connect to msn with kopete?
[04:33] <pag> rbrunhuber, man hostname
[04:33] <genii> rbrunhuber: edit /etc/hostname
[04:33] <genii> heh
[04:34] <nicolai_> PhinnFort: not in Feisty
[04:34] <elite101> is 7.04 the same as 6.06?
[04:34] <PhinnFort> ok
[04:34] <elite101> so even the adept
[04:34] <nicolai_> elite101: nope
[04:34] <stdin> anna: open adept, go to "File -> Manage Repositories" and in the "Download From" list change it to "Main Server"
[04:34] <elite101> what?
[04:34] <elite101> is the adept the same like adding multiuniverse and universe res.?
[04:34] <nicolai_> elite101: 7.04 was released april 2007
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> no, 7.04 has a newer version of adept
[04:35] <elite101> is the adept the same thou
[04:35] <nicolai_> elite101: 6.06 was released june 2006
[04:35] <elite101> like adding the same things can i take knowledge from 6.06 and apply it to 7.04?
[04:35] <elite101> no really?
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> elite101: i just told you
[04:35] <elite101> why do u think it says 6.0.6
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> there are differences
[04:36] <elite101> k bye going to pull the plug and make my hdd choke like a bit*h
[04:36] <elite101> bye bye
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a newer version, things aren't handled the exact same way
[04:36] <baha> hi
[04:36] <nicolai_> elite101: A lot of things are easier in 7.04, so while knowledge can still be applied, it often wont be necessary
[04:36] <Dr_CRX> how r u all ???
[04:36] <Dr_CRX> hi
[04:36] <Dr_CRX> i am back
[04:37] <BluesKaj> glad yet not DR_QCK :)
[04:40] <anna> stdin: i dont see a download from list here
[04:40] <mrksbrd> anyone know why i can't view web video with xine? it will show a milisecond of video then go black, and say xine is not running
[04:41] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, which browser
[04:41] <mrksbrd> konqueror
[04:42] <stdin> anna: ok, close adept and open konsole and run this command in konsole: " sudo sed -i 's/gr\.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list " copy and paste between the quotes
[04:42] <BluesKaj> konq is ok , but try FF it's abit easier to configure
[04:42] <mrksbrd> ok...let me launch that
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> i shall return shortly
[04:42] <PhinnFort> ff is teh suki suki
[04:43] <harmental> hey guys...when i do this: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:44] <harmental> a '+' appears on konqueror...and a '*' in firefox...
[04:44] <harmental> what does that mean....
[04:44] <harmental> ?
[04:44] <BluesKaj> harmental, choose the number beside the browser you want as default
[04:45] <anna> stdin: thanks a lot mate.it works for know!!!!
[04:45] <stdin> :)
[04:45] <BluesKaj> + means default
[04:45] <anna> now
[04:45] <mrksbrd> ff asking me for a plug in, when i click on it sts no sutable plugin found
[04:45] <stdin> * is the currently selected one
[04:45] <aaroncampbell> We seem to be getting very regular Firefox updates for feisty (just got <IP_ADDRESS>), but not Thunderbird...we're still on the 1.5 series.  Is there any reason why?
[04:45] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, have you installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[04:45] <harmental> BluesKaj: i've done that already....but konqueror is still the default....
[04:46] <mrksbrd> dunno...prolly not
[04:46] <mrksbrd> can i use the get command for that?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> harmental, from what app are you launching the browser?
[04:47] <harmental> BluesKaj: from kopete (when I receive new mail)
[04:47] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, yes
[04:47] <stdin> aaroncampbell: don't know, but <IP_ADDRESS> will be in gutsy
[04:47] <BluesKaj> then you have to configure the default browser in kopete
[04:48] <mrksbrd> sudo get install ********...is this right ?
[04:48] <RurouniJones> I wonder what substances are ingested for each release naming meeting ;)
[04:48] <RurouniJones> mrksbrd: sudo apt-get install ***********
[04:48] <harmental> BluesKaj: ive tried that...but i cannot find the way...
[04:48] <mrksbrd> ty...knew i was missing something
[04:48] <aaroncampbell> stdin: which is due out in 2 months right?  I think we're 3 nearly 4 months behind on releases already
[04:49] <stdin> aaroncampbell: I don't know why thunderbird is so behind, you'd have to ask in #ubuntu-devel
[04:49] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[04:49] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:49] <PhinnFort> kontact ftw