[00:00] <persia> Could someone help me upstream bug #494223?
[00:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 494223 in jack-audio-connection-kit (Ubuntu) "jack alsa driver unable to initialize capture-only mode (affects: 1)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494223
[00:01] <persia> There's a link to trac posted, but I don't know the actions required to be able to use "Also affects project" to link to it, as the project seems not to be defined.
[00:03] <LimCore> persia: do you have 3 minutes?
[00:04] <persia> LimCore: For which?
[00:04]  * persia really doesn't want to try to set up a snv server right now
[00:05] <LimCore> persia: it takes 3 MINUTES
[00:05] <LimCore> in 4 commands
[00:06] <LimCore> remember when I previously said we are overtalking things =)
[00:08] <persia> LimCore: Yeah, it's just that I'm currently trying to triage a whole series of bugs, and I remember having to do a whole bunch of stuff last time I set up svn, which took me a long time.
[00:08] <persia> Maybe that's just me, but it makes me not really want to dig into that when I'm doing something else.
[00:09] <BUGabundo> any one know why both karmic and jaunty lost portuguese keyb this week?
[00:09] <LimCore> persia: it would be faster to copy/paste that commands then to respond to me ;)
[00:09] <kklimonda> LimCore, doesn't work with copy&paste but I have no idea whenever it means it's broken or is it something in your commands
[00:10] <LimCore> kklimonda: you executed all my commands?  can you pastebin the outcome please? esp the user part
[00:10] <kklimonda>  svn import svn://localhost/lc/repofoo -m "importing"
[00:10] <kklimonda> svn: Authorization failed
[00:11] <LimCore> kklimonda: thanks. What distro?
[00:11] <kklimonda> karmic
[00:11] <LimCore> kklimonda: can you post this to comments?
[00:14] <LimCore> if a guy confirms on irc (#svn) then this counts as Confirmed right? even if he doesnt have time to go to LP/login?
[00:14] <kklimonda> i've confirmed it already
[00:14] <LimCore> thanks :)
[00:15] <LimCore> confirmed in Debian by borg-queen #svn
[00:15] <LimCore> sid
[00:18] <thekorn> persia, I think you need to register a project in launchpad first and choose "project is not using launchpad as bug tracker"
[00:20] <thekorn> persia, then link the package to this project, and then you get this form when you click on "affect project" which has this three text entry fields where you can enter an email, a url or whatever
[00:21] <thekorn> persia, but I'm not sure if this will work with a changeset url, I think it is restricted to bugs or issues (not sure what the trac term for this is)
[00:21] <BUGabundo> thekorn: project "null" ?
[00:21] <thekorn> isn't Null used to "delete" tasks
[00:22] <thekorn> the remove them from search lists etc
[00:22] <thekorn> don't think it is used to like random bugtracker
[00:22] <thekorn> but I might be wrong
[00:22] <persia> thekorn: That sounds both complicated and ultimately unsatisfying.  I think I'll just leave it alone and close the bug by applying the patch.
[00:22] <BUGabundo> aahah
[00:23] <thekorn> persia, fixing the bug is always the best solution ;)
[00:23] <BUGabundo> I think it's a _feature_ in LP
[00:23] <BUGabundo> to make ppl fix stuff , instead
[00:23] <LimCore> BUGabundo: do you run Lucid perhaps?  care to confirm/disconfirm bug 520743 there? it WILL take 3 minutes
[00:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520743 in subversion (Ubuntu) "svn stoped asking for auth, and connects as anonymous - giving usually svn: Authorization failed (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520743
[00:23] <persia> thekorn: Someone else already fixed it, but we just don't have that upstream revision yet.
[00:23] <BUGabundo> LimCore: busy making VMs :(
[00:24] <LimCore> I will pay you 10 usd per each started minute if it takes longer then 2 minutes 59 seconds
[00:25] <LimCore> >_>
[00:25] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[00:25] <BUGabundo> sorry
[00:25] <BUGabundo> ask in #+1. pleaty of testers there
[00:26] <LimCore> you literally copy/paste 5 commands, then anotehr 5 commands =)
[00:26] <LimCore> ok then :)
[00:30] <thekorn> LimCore, does this help you? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/svn-authorization-failed-what-am-i-doing-wrong-701579/
[00:32] <LimCore> thanks thekorn. It does not solve the problem.  But I will commend that this is not this problem
[01:40] <kermiac> hmmm.... Gerry C. is back doing the same yet again!!!! :(
[01:41] <kermiac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntunerd-nospammail/+karma
[01:41] <kermiac> 5hrs ago & just started again - I haven't even finished up cleaning the first mess yet :(
[01:42] <thekorn> kermiac, did you already found out which bug was affected by his last change?
[01:44] <kermiac> no, I just got on & was checking what he has been up to
[01:44] <chrisccoulson> mr_pouit, FYI - https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/100682
[01:44] <chrisccoulson> (I see you've also been affected by this user)
[01:45] <chrisccoulson> we're all getting a little bit sick and tired of him now
[01:45] <kermiac> do we know if anyone kept clean up after him after i left yesterday?
[01:46] <kermiac> I'm just starting to get back into it now - v busy day @ work :(
[01:48] <kermiac> thekorn: just had a quick scan though latest bugmail & it must be for bugs/packages I'm not subscribed to
[01:49] <thekorn> kermiac, there is even no recent activity on the list of bugs related to him http://tinyurl.com/ycwyczd
[01:50] <thekorn> so *maybe* launchpad's karma list is just buggy and it is a false alarm ;)
[01:52] <kermiac> yeah, i noticed that. but his karma trail has changed since last night so I'm not convinced he's not back at it
[01:54] <micahg> thekorn: that only shows if you comment
[01:55] <thekorn> micahg, no, it shouldn't. It should show if you comment, create a task, report a bug, or get assigned to a task
[01:56]  * micahg isn't sure about creating a task
[01:56] <thekorn> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntunerd-nospammail/+commentedbugs would be the list of commented bugs
[01:56] <thekorn> let's test it ;)
[01:58] <thekorn> micahg, you are right, it's a bug
[01:59] <micahg> thekorn: idk about that, there's no way to list tasks created on that page
[01:59] <kermiac_> sorry, gotta afk for a while
[02:00] <chrisccoulson> bug 446669 (6 hours ago)
[02:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 446669 in phpldapadmin (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "E_STRICT: Declaration of AJAXTree::draw_dn() should be compatible with that of PLMTree::draw_dn() (affects: 20)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446669
[02:00] <thekorn> micahg, I know it's a bug, because I read the source recently and it is defenitly supposed to search for task.owner, which is the user who created a task ;)
[02:01] <micahg> thekorn: maybe for karma, but on teh bugs list page?
[02:01] <micahg> thekorn: maybe that's under reported bugs?
[02:02] <thekorn> micahg, anyway: if you create a task the underlying bug is related to you and your work,
[02:02] <thekorn> so this bug should show up on the "related bugs list"
[02:02] <thekorn> if not it is a bug which should be reported
[02:02] <maxb> Who/where might be a good person/place to ask about debugging DVD playback video freezing in totem?
[02:03] <maxb> as a lucid regression, I mean
[02:03] <micahg> maxb: #ubuntu+1 for debugging maybe?
[02:04] <micahg> thekorn: idk, I always thought all related was a combination of the other links
[02:05] <thekorn> micahg, but then I think a "tasks created" link is missing
[02:06] <micahg> thekorn: +1 :)
[02:06] <thekorn> goood
[02:31] <nigel_nb> if op had a trouble with a particular app and then reinstalled the OS and reports it works fine now - can I close the bug as invalid?
[02:32] <bdmurray> if it is incomplete and unrecreatable yes
[02:32] <nigel_nb> well pedro asked him for bt, but he reports it was too complex and therefore reinstalled
[02:32] <nigel_nb> bug 506104
[02:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 506104 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "rhythmbox exits suddenly (affects: 1)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506104
[02:33] <bdmurray> then yes invalid
[02:33] <nigel_nb> thanks :)
[02:37] <nigel_nb> can someone set bug 520640 as wishlist?
[02:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520640 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Start Rhythmbox (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520640
[02:47] <ddecator> micahg, does java not work by default with the upgrade to FF 3.6?
[02:47] <micahg> ddecator: openjdk needs to be compiled against xul192
[02:48] <micahg> xul192 should hit lucid next week
[02:48] <micahg> and we'll get that fixed
[02:48] <nigel_nb> micahg, can I join you in triaging thunderbird?
[02:48] <ddecator> micahg, great, i've found a couple of bugs about java not working in 3.6, i haven't found a triaged report that i can link them to
[02:52] <nigel_nb> okay, I'm extremely unpleased to announce that we have a new spammer
[02:52] <nigel_nb> setting bugs to confirmed :(
[02:53] <micahg> ddecator: make sure that it's openjdk
[02:53] <ddecator> micahg, sure thing
[02:53] <ddecator> nigel_nb, did you ask them to stop?
[02:53] <nigel_nb> ddecator, so far only 1 for today (I got only one mail and gmane shows only 3 old hits
[02:55] <ddecator> nigel_nb, is it their own bugs they are confirming?
[02:55] <nigel_nb> random
[02:56] <ddecator> great...
[02:56] <ddecator> micahg, is openjdk-6-jre is the package, right?
[02:57] <micahg> ddecator: openjdk-6, there's already a bug for it
[02:57] <micahg> bug 496097
[02:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 496097 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "icedtea6-plugin not compatible with Firefox 3.6+ (affects: 4) (dups: 1)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/496097
[02:57] <ddecator> micahg, ok, i'm just wondering what package to put when i ask if they have it installed so i can confirm it's the right package
[02:58] <micahg> ddecator: take a look at the plugins file
[02:58] <ddecator> i would, but the two i'm looking at aren't from apport
[02:59] <ddecator> ah, in the one he says it's installed though
[03:08] <ddecator> micahg, i'm sure the other report is a dupe, but i asked them to confirm just in case. it doesn't have a package assigned to it though, so should i still assign it to firefox or just leave it alone if it's a dupe?
[03:08] <micahg> leave it alone I would say
[03:08] <ddecator> alright, will do
[03:08] <micahg> ddecator: nah, move it to FF
[03:08] <ddecator> micahg, haha, alright
[03:09] <ddecator> wait, who the...
[03:09] <ddecator> they assigned it to someone?
[03:09] <micahg> bug #?
[03:10] <ddecator> bug 511443
[03:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 511443 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Namoroka broke Firefox, no icon, no Java. (affects: 4)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511443
[03:11] <ddecator> the person assigned it to themselves
[03:11] <micahg> ddecator: direct them to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:11] <micahg> ddecator: and get rid of the assignment
[03:11] <micahg> and explain why
[03:11] <ddecator> sure thing
[03:13] <micahg> ddecator: BTW, it
[03:13] <micahg> 's mint, so you want to make sure it's official packages (you already did, I wanted to point itout anyways)
[03:13] <ddecator> haha, alright, thanks =)
[03:16] <hggdh> how can nomoroka break ffox?
[03:16] <micahg> hggdh: depends on teh addons in there...
[03:17] <micahg> also, I think the system had some defaults for firefox that got removed
[03:17] <hggdh> yeah, ok, but isnt namorka ffox (ok, next version, but anyway)
[03:17] <micahg> hggdh: we migrated from firefox-3.5 to firefox
[03:17] <micahg> they might have hardcoded stuff for firefox-3.5, I think lucid did as well
[03:17] <hggdh> k
[03:27] <micahg> ddecator: assignment != responsibility, but rather to the person working on it
[03:27] <ddecator> ah, makes sense, thanks for clarifying that
[03:27] <micahg> ddecator: also, the help.u.c page is more for getting the branded version in the firefox-stable PPA
[03:28] <micahg> the dailies are unbranded (Namoroka)
[03:28] <micahg> ddecator: but you're doing great :)
[03:28] <ddecator> micahg, thanks, just takes me getting a few things wrong for me to learn =)
[03:29] <ddecator> pedro told me to work on assigning packages to bugs that don't have any, which is proving harder than i expected
[03:30] <micahg> ddecator: yes, I will regularly move bugs from firefox to no package since I don't know where it should go
[03:31] <ddecator> micahg, pedro is right though, it's forcing me to figure things out haha
[03:33] <micahg> ddecator: indeed
[03:35] <bcurtiswx> can anyone tell me how to temp get the -13 kernel in lucid to boot on VBox? there was a command and I can't remember it
[04:15] <ddecator> what package do bugs in gnome panel applets get assigned to?
[04:16] <micahg> gnome-applets?
[04:16] <persia> Depends on the applet.
[04:17] <persia> Some applets have their own packages.
[04:17] <micahg> yeah, sorry, missed that
[04:17] <ddecator> keyboard indicator
[04:18] <ddecator> looks like it is gswitchit?
[04:19] <persia> I can't find gswitchit at all
[04:20] <ddecator> that's what it's referred to on the gnome website, but i can't find a launchpad page for it
[04:21] <persia> That's just very confusing.  It seems that gnome-applets has a manpage for gkb_applet, but not the actual applet.
[04:23] <ddecator> the gnome-applets launchpad page mentions a gnome-keyboard-applet under the lucid info
[04:25] <micahg> gnome-applets has 'a' keyboard layout switcher according to the description
[04:25] <ddecator> that sounds like the right applet
[04:26] <ddecator> go with that then?
[04:28] <persia> Yes.
[04:28] <persia> The idea is to do a bit of research, and make a best-guess.  Someone digging into the bug later may revise it if they know better :)
[04:28] <ddecator> perfect. next question then. does a bug with a translation issue need to be linked to the translations team even if the OP gave the correct translation?
[04:29] <persia> Yes, because they need to fix it :)
[04:30] <ddecator> even if the bug is with the keyboard applet? =p
[04:30] <persia> The other alternative is to act as a member of the translations team, and submit a suggested change yourself.
[04:30] <micahg> ddecator: yes, more so so that they are aware
[04:30] <ddecator> micahg, great, thanks!
[04:31] <ddecator> and thanks to you too persia =p
[04:36] <ddecator> so the wiki makes it sound like the bug can be assigned to the proper translation team by a triager?
[04:37] <micahg> ddecator: well, I was told that's the procedure
[04:37] <micahg> for the translations team
[04:38] <micahg> but that's only if you're acting as the translations team triager as well AFAIK
[04:38] <ddecator> so should i leave that alone?
[04:39] <micahg> ddecator: idk, I never was so clear on what is considered triaged for the translations team
[04:39] <ddecator> micahg, yah, they're triage wiki isn't very clear...
[04:40] <ddecator> but the HowToTriage page on the ubuntu wiki says to assign it if it's a translation error
[04:40] <micahg> ddecator: yes, because that's the translations team's policy for triage
[04:41] <ddecator> micahg, so i should assign it to the proper team?
[04:42] <micahg> ddecator: is it a rosetta fix?
[04:43] <ddecator> it's a mis-spelled translation, bug 514626
[04:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 514626 in gnome-applets (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) ""Russia"'s shortened version in keyboard switcher applet is not correct in russian locale. (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514626
[04:43] <ddecator> (yes i confirmed it on my machine)
[04:45]  * micahg checks rosetta
[04:47] <ddecator> thanks
[04:49] <micahg> ddecator: idk, but go ahead
[04:50] <ddecator> micahg, k, will do
[04:50]  * micahg will learn rosetta one day :)
[04:50] <micahg> but the app seems to use it
[04:51] <ddecator> there we go
[04:51] <ddecator> [low, triaged]?
[04:53] <ddecator> not really sure much else would be needed for a small translation fix...
[04:53] <micahg> ddecator: yep
[04:54] <ddecator> great, thanks micahg , that was a good learning experience
[04:54] <micahg> ddecator: np, I wish I had better answers for you though
[04:54] <ddecator> and probably a good example for when i apply for bugcontrol =)
[04:56] <ddecator> micahg, np, i just wanted to know i was heading in the right direction
[06:31] <kermiac> hey :) I noticed the spammer has now been suspended. Do we have some sort of default "removed assigned person/team due to rogue user" type of response?
[06:32] <kermiac> I'm still cleaning up his mess as I was too busy to do much of it from work today :(
[06:32] <micahg> kermiac: not that I know of, you can make a proposal on the ML though
[06:35] <thekorn> good morning bugsquad
[06:35] <kermiac> ok, ty micahg. I'll have to think about it... I don't think any I could think of at the moment would be appropriate ;) For now I am simply stating "unassigned Kernel Bugs team" for example
[06:35] <kermiac> mornig thekorn :)
[06:36] <micahg> kermiac: be sure to say why if it's not obvious
[06:37] <kermiac> any suggestions as to what I should say? perhaps "removed unassigned Kernel Bugs team as they were incorrectly subscribed"?
[06:37] <kermiac> as an example
[06:37] <kermiac> any suggestions as to what I should say? perhaps "removed unassigned Kernel Bugs team as they were incorrectly assigned this task"?
[06:37] <kermiac> sounds a little better but I am def open to other suggestions
[06:37] <micahg> kermiac: get rid of the work removed and it sounds good :)
[06:38] <kermiac> oops, didn't notice that was still there
[06:38] <kermiac> ok, ty micahg
[06:38] <thekorn> hi kermiac
[06:51] <kermiac> should empty upstream bug tasks be removed if the bug is new (or anything except triaged)? bug 507469I
[06:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 507469 in ufw (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "User deny rules should override connection tracking (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507469
[06:54] <thekorn> kermiac, there is not way to remove a task in launchpad
[06:54] <micahg> kermiac: set to null project
[06:55] <micahg> kermiac: and no to your question
[06:55] <micahg> kermiac: an upstream task might mean needs upstreaming
[06:55] <kermiac> ok ty thekorn & micahg
[06:55] <vish> kermiac: that[change to null] is usually done when the projects dont want to receive mails ;)
[06:56] <micahg> vish: or someone opens the task on teh wrong project :)
[06:56] <thekorn> or someone is in spamming mode ;)
[06:56] <vish> yeah, both^ are when the projects dont want to receive the mail :D
[06:57] <kermiac> in this case however, an ubuntu dev has commmented that it needs to be looked at further before considering making changes, but I will change it to null project & mark it as invalid
[06:58] <vish> kermiac: why remove the task?
[06:59] <kermiac> vish: that's what I was double checking
[06:59] <vish> ah , it was added by gerry c :/
[06:59] <ddecator> that name keeps popping up -_-
[07:00] <kermiac> I was unsure due to the fact that "if" this was an issue it would be valid, but as you just noticed it was added by the latest LP spammer
[07:00] <vish> but the upstream task doesnt matter i guess for this bug
[07:01] <kermiac> as I just said, a dev has commented that this needs to be looked into further before making changes. What is the consensus? should i leave the empty bug task or change it to null project & invalidate the tasl?
[07:01] <kermiac> s/tasl/task
[07:01] <kermiac> I am not sure
[07:01] <vish> kermiac: you can leave that its not a problem
[07:02] <kermiac> the upstream is correct
[07:02] <kermiac> ok ty vish, I'll leave it as it is an empty upstream task
[07:03] <kermiac> dinner calls, bbl
[07:03] <vish> np..
[07:16] <ddecator> bug 520365 has me confused
[07:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520365 in gimp (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Gimp needs Launchpad integration (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520365
[07:18] <ddecator> nevermind, he's a launchpad translator so i guess he made the link for a reason...
[08:52] <BUGabundo_remote> Bons Dias
[08:56] <kermiac_> good day to you to BUGabundo_remote :)
[09:00] <SevenMachines> can someone mark a few bugs 'fix released' for me please. They've been fixed by auto-sync or by a new release and haven't been automatically closed
[09:01] <SevenMachines> 4 of them, not too painful :)
[09:02] <kermiac_> have you confirmed or are they you bugs SevenMachines
[09:02] <BUGabundo_remote> SevenMachines: then the changelog should mention that
[09:03] <SevenMachines> some mine, some i confirmed, some i talked to with debian and got them fixed there. i've also checked they're really fixed
[09:03] <SevenMachines> i've put the changelog entry that fixed them at the bottom to clear it up
[09:04] <SevenMachines> BUGabundo_remote: auto-sync wont close LP bugs? i thought maybe linking the bug report to debians would do that
[09:15] <BUGabundo_remote> yes it should
[09:22] <SevenMachines> this one certainly hasnt Bug #510385
[09:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 510385 in naist-jdic (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Chasen fails to run ("no basic form" message) (affects: 1)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510385
[09:22] <SevenMachines> some auto-syncs fixed things without an upstream bug report to link a watch too by the looks of it too
[09:23] <BUGabundo_remote> I'll leave someone more experienced with sync to comment on that
[09:31] <chrisccoulson> i see our friend has finally been suspended
[09:42] <kermiac> chrisccoulson: yup, that's good :) I'm still going through cleaning up the bugs he changed. for some reason they're not all in his gmane search
[09:46] <kermiac> most seem to have been fixed by myself & others now
[10:03] <kermiac> a little help with bug 510597 - yet another gerry c bug
[10:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 510597 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "fsck fails when homedir is encrypted (affects: 1)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510597
[10:04] <kermiac> dkirkland assigned himself recently as working on this bug & he also marked as invalid against ecryptfs-utils
[10:05] <kermiac> now the ecryptfs-utils task has been changed to confirmed/high - should I invalidate the ecryptfs-utils task again?
[10:06] <vish> kermiac: yup
[10:06] <kermiac> ty vish :)
[10:06] <chrisccoulson> i wonder how long it will be before the next spammer comes along
[10:07] <vish> seb128: shall i mark Bug 194472 as "wont fix" or can you :)  ? all ubuntu tasks have been marked as wont fixes
[10:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 194472 in sudo (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Entering password in Terminal gives no visual feedback (affects: 5) (dups: 2)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194472
[10:08] <vish> rather , "we dont want to do it"
[10:08] <seb128> no opinion on that one or no clue about the topic
[10:08] <seb128> I will let somebody who has comment
[10:08] <vish> cool , thanks
[10:11] <kermiac> wow he actaully filed a bug 520030. this has been converted to a question. now that he has been suspended, what should be done in relation to the question?
[10:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520030 in ubuntu "display and scrolling problem (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520030
[10:11] <kermiac> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/100643
[10:12] <kermiac> he signed the question as "paul"
[10:12] <kermiac> strange...
[10:15] <BUGabundo_remote> kermiac: gerryc ?
[10:15] <kermiac> yeah
[10:16] <kermiac> whoah! this confirms he was def a spammer
[10:16] <kermiac> bug 520029
[10:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520029 in ubuntu "error 17, can not mount (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520029
[10:17] <kermiac> he reported a bug in german & signed it off with "greetings sunboy" (or something very close to that - ty google translate)
[10:18] <thekorn> that's not germen ;)
[10:18] <thekorn> german
[10:18] <thekorn> maybe dutch or something
[10:19] <kermiac> ok, it was a guess on my part
[10:19] <kermiac> yeah, could be dutch
[10:20] <kermiac> just checked & google translate says its dutch
[10:22] <thekorn> I think I will write a mail about spamming on launchpad to the launchpad-users and bugsquad ML this weekend, so we can start a discussion about the future there
[10:23] <thekorn> this needs to be discussed properly, but on the other hand we must keep this away from our daly work somehow
[10:23] <thekorn> its blocking us, and it is very frustrating
[10:24] <kermiac> sounds like a good idea thekorn, I would be interested in the discussion as I believe we need better mechanisms in place or at least a better way to handle spammers as this is likely to become more of an issue as the popularity of Ubuntu rises more & more
[10:24] <kermiac> yes, it is very frustrating - I have been reverting his changes for over 24hrs now & have probably only commented on 3 or 4 bugs unrelated to him
[10:25] <kermiac> does the following response sound ok for any bug he has filed? "this user has been suspended from Launchpad as a spammer. I am marking this bug as invalid as we will not receive any further information in relation to this issue."
[10:25] <kermiac> does anyone have a better suggestion?
[10:26] <thekorn> sounds good
[10:26] <kermiac> ity thekorn
[10:26] <kermiac> ty, even
[10:26] <nysis> Hi. I have sporadic freezes with Intel 845G Video driver. I use Ubuntu 9.10, everything worked fine until one day after a usuall package update my system periodically freezes. Any bugfix to this issue? Is it an intel driver or kernel issue?
[10:26] <kermiac> any ideas on what to do in regards to the bug that was converted to a question? just leave the same comment?
[10:29] <kermiac> oops chrisccoulson closed the bug already - sorry for the bugspam. I hadn't refreshed the page since I opened it about 10 mins ago
[10:39]  * kermiac shakes his head. he even assigned MOTU to some of the tasks he created...
[10:40] <kermiac> bug 131976 - fixed now though
[10:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 131976 in dhcp (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 7 other projects) "apparmor doesn't work on stacked file system (livecd) -- DHCP/cups/others fail to start (affects: 3) (dups: 7)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131976
[11:10] <kermiac> ok, I got the last of the 67 (according to gmane) gerry c affected bugs reverted. if anyone happens to see another one, please revert the changes he made
[11:11] <kermiac> I'm off to bed, night all :)
[13:56] <nigelb> can someone set bug 520629 as triaged please
[13:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520629 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "rhythmbox crashes after loading a radio station (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520629
[13:56]  * persia looks
[13:58] <persia> nigelb: I don't think it's triaged.  It's a crash, but there's been no attempt to get a stack trace.
[13:58] <persia> I strongly suspect that it's gstreamer failing to reset properly, but a stacktrace would let us determine that.
[13:58] <nigelb> persia, there is an upstream bug for this situation already
[13:58] <nigelb> oh okay, I'll get a stack trace
[13:58] <persia> That doesn't have a backtrace either
[13:59] <persia> nigelb: There's also a Debian bug, and it's worth linking to that.
[13:59] <persia> (specifically debian bug 397024)
[13:59] <ubot4> Debian bug 397024 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox: Can't play radio station after pausing it" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/397024
[14:00] <persia> nigelb: Can you reproduce it locally?  That might be a faster way to get a backtrace than asking the submitter for one.
[14:00] <nigelb> I dont get the crash, but yes, rhythmbox and streams dont go well
[14:01] <persia> You don't get the crash?  I wonder if the submitter is seeing something slightly different from the upstream and Debian bugs.
[14:02] <nigelb> I'll ask for an ST  or what upstream suggested?
[14:13] <persia> nigelb: upstream is almost always better at asking for the right thing, but I'm not sure it's the same bug, because the upstream bug doesn't include a "crash".
[14:13] <nigelb> persia, I've asked him to give the output of what he sees and we'll see where it goes?
[14:14] <persia> That sounds like a good plan.  With luck, it *is* the same bug, but just in case :)
[14:14] <nigelb> :)
[14:14] <nigelb> thanks
[14:14] <persia> nigelb: And don't forget to link the Debian bug also :)
[14:15] <nigelb> yes, doing that now
[14:19] <Severity1> hello
[14:28] <nigelb> in Lucid problem with boot screen and login screen =  plymouth package ?
[14:36] <persia> nigelb: plymouth or gdm, depending
[14:36] <nigelb> yes, even I'm a bit confused with plymouth vs gdm
[14:36] <nigelb> bug 520920
[14:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520920 in ubuntu "problem with boot screen, login screen and the session don't start (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520920
[14:40] <persia> nigelb: plymouth handles the display until X starts, and then X handles it: gdm is an X client.
[14:40] <persia> gdm either asks for login, or handles the login and starts the session.
[14:40] <nigelb> this one seems to be a problem at login screen - that would be GDM?
[14:41] <persia> Right.
[14:41] <nigelb> anything more I can do on this bug report?
[14:41] <persia> But it might also be "linux", because the user is reporting a regression with a kernel upgrade.
[14:41] <persia> Needs some discussion with the user to understand if the newest GDM works with the older kernel, etc.
[14:42] <persia> (basically, swap out bits until you're sure which package breaks stuff)
[14:42] <nigelb> he can login only with older kernal right now
[14:42] <nigelb> its causing some breakage with his graphics
[14:44] <persia> Right, so if it's the same gdm and two different kernels, it's probably a kernel issue rather than a GDM issue, even though the symptom is reported about GDM appearance.
[14:45] <nigelb> I've now changed the package to gdm and left it there
[14:46] <nigelb> so I'll ask him to confirm if the issue is 2 different kernel versions on lucid, old one okay and new one not okay
[14:49] <persia> Right.  If that is confirmed, move the issue to "linux" instead of gdm.
[14:50] <persia> It's potentially possible for gdm to work around a kernel bug, but that would not be the right way to fix it.
[14:50] <persia> And upstream would probably reject the bug, if submitted, if it was the kernel.
[14:51] <nigelb> I've asked for confirmation now and new kernel number just to be on the safer side
[15:19]  * hggdh seems to dimply remember an open issue between plymouth and gdm
[16:31] <seb128> bdmurray, there is no patch on bug #512959
[16:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512959 in nautilus (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 5 other projects) "causes crashes on armel with -Wl,-O1 (affects: 1)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512959
[16:32] <seb128> bdmurray, not sure why you tagged it?
[16:32] <bdmurray> seb128: in comment #16 I see one
[16:33] <seb128> bdmurray, it's a diff between the 2 versions before and after bug
[16:34] <seb128> ie current lucid with what we had before
[16:34] <bdmurray> seb128: well then should it not be tagged as a patch?
[16:34] <seb128> it's meant to be the changes to review to find where is the bug
[16:34] <seb128> no it shouldn't ;-)
[16:34] <seb128> that's what I'm saying there
[16:34] <bdmurray> right the attachment should not be flagged as a patch
[16:35] <seb128> I guess it's launchpad doing that
[16:35] <bdmurray> seb128: or asac when he added it ;-)
[16:35] <seb128> because the change is named .diff
[16:35] <seb128> I doubt asac would tag something which is not a patch as patch but it could
[16:35] <bdmurray> there all fixed now
[16:37] <bdmurray> seb128: by the way you did an upload of pygobject which tried to close bug 607674 in Launchpad, but that doesn't exist.  Any idea of what bug it was supposed to be?
[16:37] <ubot4> bdmurray: Error: Bug #607674 not found.
[16:37] <asac> for me the patch flag is a content-type thing
[16:37] <asac> not a "fix" flag
[16:38] <asac> i am not sure what this is about
[16:38] <asac> but i surely used that flag at some point for diffs that where evaluation patches
[16:39] <bdmurray> Well it looks like Launchpad makes some assumptions based on the content type
[16:39] <bdmurray> https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/BugAttchements
[16:39] <bdmurray> wow, that url is awesome
[16:39] <seb128> bdmurray, let me look
[16:40] <bdmurray> I mean BugAttchements vs BugAttachments
[16:40] <seb128> bdmurray, lp 507106
[16:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 507106 in pygobject (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "software-center crashed with ImportError in __motion_notify_cb() (affects: 47) (dups: 12)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507106
[16:40] <seb128> bdmurray, it was the gnome bug number I copied
[16:40] <bdmurray> seb128: ah, okay I just wanted to make sure the LP one got closed ;-)
[16:40] <seb128> bdmurray, how did you notice the error? do you have tools for that?
[16:41] <seb128> bdmurray, yeah, I noticed after upload and closed it
[16:41] <seb128> bdmurray, thanks
[16:41] <bdmurray> seb128: generating the lucid-fixes report
[16:41] <bdmurray> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/lucid-fixes-report.html
[16:42] <seb128> bdmurray, nice ;-)
[19:47] <monkeylibre> hi all, please anyone could mark the bug #517260 as Triaged?, i´ve added the bugwatcher.
[19:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 517260 in gvfs (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gvfsd-sftp crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_iter_init() (affects: 13) (dups: 1)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/517260
[19:49]  * persia looks
[19:51] <persia> monkeylibre: It still doesn't have a stacktrace with symbols, either upstream or downstream.
[19:51] <persia> monkeylibre: If you can reproduce, and generate a useful stacktrace, attaching it in both places would be good.
[19:52] <persia> At that point, I'd agree it was triaged.  Right now, it needs someone to take action before it can be understood.
[19:53] <persia> Essentially, it needs a stacktrace that doesn't contain lots of ?? bits.
[19:55] <monkeylibre> ok, thank you for your answer
[19:58] <atrus> anybody running epiphany under lucid want to help track down a potential build bug?
[20:01] <joumetal> atrus: how?
[20:02] <atrus> watch epiphany's stdout/stderr, set epiphany's cookie preferences to "only from sites you visit", and see if you get an error: soup_cookie_jar_set_cookie: assertion `priv->accept_policy != SOUP_COOKIE_JAR_ACCEPT_NO_THIRD_PARTY' failed
[20:03] <atrus> logging into gmail seems to trigger it.
[20:11] <joumetal> assuming stdout is what is seen in terminal i can't reproduce
[20:15] <joumetal> i am running epiphany <IP_ADDRESS>-1 updated today.
[20:18] <atrus> joumetal: and your preferences are set to allow cookies "Only from sites you visit"?
[20:19] <joumetal> yes
[20:21] <atrus> joumetal: hmm, okay thanks.
[20:22] <atrus> joumetal: what version of libwebkit-1.0-2?
[20:23] <atrus> joumetal: and libsoup2.4-1 if you don't mind
[20:24] <joumetal> package libwebkit-1.0-2 installed version is 1.1.21-1
[20:25] <joumetal> and libsoup is 2.29.90-1
[20:25] <atrus> ok. lucid's probably not affected by this problem then. awesome :)
[20:26] <atrus> epiphany upstream suggested that ubuntu's webkit-team ppa build of webkit for karmic may be compiled against an old libsoup version, which is causing the "no 3rd-party cookies" option to fail.
[20:48] <brutimus> I have an issue I think deserves to be filed as a bug -- the default motd/landscape scripts check all mounts and if one of these mounts is a dead NFS mount, the motd script locks, thus locking you completely out of your server.
[20:48] <brutimus> I would like to get some thoughts on that real quick before I go file it as a bug.
[20:49] <lfaraone> What's the package that is responcible for putting up those "enter a password to unlock the volume" messages when you click on an encrypted volume in nautilus? (would that be nautilus?)
[20:51] <brutimus> Oh I'm sorry this is a server environment.  The MOTD scripts are a part of the base-file package I believe.  This login issue affects both console logins and ssh logins.
[20:51] <brutimus> I fixed it on all of our server just by unlinking all motd symlinks in /etc/update-motd.d/
[20:51] <brutimus> There is an 'update-motd' package, but it's not installed.
[21:09] <paissad> hi all, i would like to open a launchpad bug for a new package, the package is quite over, i just need to open & close a LP bug .... i'm confused ...
[21:09] <paissad> may someone tells me the right procedure to follow ?
[21:14] <qense> paissad: what do you mean with opening and closing a bug? What would you like to report about?
[21:15] <paissad> qense, i 'm packaging a new software ... i in the debian/changelog file, i need to close a bug  , something like this (LP #nnnn) where nnnn is the bug number !
[21:16] <qense> paissad: ah, I see. But a need-packaging bug isn't required when packaging an application, iirrc.
[21:17] <paissad> qense, oh i would be glad it you're right :)
[21:17] <qense> paissad: #ubuntu-motu would be the best place to ask, though, because the packagers use a different work-flow than the bug triagerws
[21:18] <hggdh> brutimus: I would say this is worthy of a bug. Of course, the dead/stale NFS mounts should also be fixed, but motd should not force the session to hang waiting
[21:18] <hggdh> (same thing will happen if you run 'ls --color' and under the cwd you have a stale NFS
[21:18] <hggdh> but here there is no real solution)
[21:19] <brutimus> hggdh: correct... but had we not had an open ssh session to the server, we would have been completely clueless as to what was wrong because we couldn't login.
[21:20] <nigelb> can anyone run a gmane search of https://launchpad.net/~pkayharvey2006
[21:20] <hggdh> brutimus: indeed. My view is the *provided* (i.e., standard) modt/lanscape cannot risk a hang
[21:20] <brutimus> ah.  i agree.
[21:20] <nigelb> I'm getting some disruptive bug status changes.. probably spam
[21:21] <hggdh> nigelb: do you have the launchpad GM scripts installed?
[21:21] <nigelb> hggdh: I'm at work, IE
[21:21] <hggdh> oh. Can you give me a bug #?
[21:21] <nigelb> bug 191760
[21:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 191760 in totem (Ubuntu) "[Hardy] Youtube Plugin can't play video (affects: 6)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191760
[21:24] <nigelb> I think bug 520920 is a kernel bug, (gdm issues with latest kernel) its now marked against gdm.  warrants change to linux?
[21:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520920 in gdm (Ubuntu) "problem with boot screen, login screen and the session don't start (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520920
[21:25] <hggdh> I cannot get any hits for him
[21:25] <nigelb> hm, so fairly new.
[21:26] <nigelb> Heads up then, we probably have a new spammer
[21:30] <nigelb> hggdh: can take a look the the gdm bug ^^
[21:32] <hggdh> nigelb: this *may* be related to plymouth
[21:32] <nigelb> oh
[21:32] <hggdh> I remember a problem with it, but I do not remember the details
[21:32] <nigelb> I'll hunt for plymouth dups when I get home then
[21:33] <hggdh> BUGabundo certainly knows, he was talking about it the other day
[21:33] <nigelb> ah, he should be on later today.  I'll ask :)
[21:34] <SwedeMike> hm, when I just did apt-get dist-upgrade my kexec-tools post-installation script didn't complete (waited 10 minutes), tried three times before dpkg --removed kexec-tools and then did dist-upgrade again, then it updated my initramfs:es and was done. Known problem?
[21:34] <SwedeMike> I only got it in my alpha2 installed vbox machine, not on my 9.10-install which was upgraded to 10.04
[21:34] <nigelb> I think I heard someone mention this in -devel - all except the person good at plymouth had this bug ;)
[21:35] <hggdh> SwedeMike: try checking #ubuntu+1 (but I had no problems there)
[21:36] <SwedeMike> hm, just for the record, I had it the other way around, sorry, my vbox machine which was alpha2 install didn't have the problem, but my 9.10 upgraded one.. but I'll try +1
[21:39] <brutimus> hggdh: thanks for your guidance earlier.  I filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/+bug/521178
[21:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 521178 in base-files (Ubuntu) "motd/landscape scripts hang with a stale NFS mount (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[21:40] <hggdh> brutimus: welcome. I am subscribing to it, would like to know what happens
[21:41] <hggdh> brutimus: I am guessing you are running Karmic, correct?
[21:41] <brutimus> hggdh: like i mentioned earlier.. we're very lucky we had open ssh connections to our servers at the time or else we would have had a bunch of production frontends mysteriously dead :-)
[21:42] <brutimus> hggdh: correct
[21:44] <hggdh> so this has the potential to be a serious hindrance
[21:44] <brutimus> I would consider this a very critical issue
[21:45] <brutimus> anything that locks you out of a server seems serious to me
[21:48] <hggdh> correct
[22:02] <BUGabundo> evening o/
[22:03] <hggdh> brutimus: could you please run 'apt-file search /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo'? I cannot find where this file came from
[22:03] <hggdh> (on the server)
[22:05] <brutimus> hggdh: will do.. having to install apt-file first
[22:05] <hggdh> brutimus: the point is I think base-files is not the correct package
[22:09] <brutimus> the apt-file update is taking it's sweet time..
[22:10] <hggdh> yes, it downloads and indexes all packages files decriptions
[22:17] <brutimus> hggdh: i didn't get any results for the command you pasted (perhaps because it's a symlink?)
[22:18] <brutimus> i did, however, execute it against the symlink source file
[22:18] <brutimus> sstoops@staging:~$ apt-file search /usr/share/landscape/landscape-sysinfo.wrapper
[22:18] <brutimus> landscape-common: /usr/share/landscape/landscape-sysinfo.wrapper
[22:19] <hggdh> so this is the package. I will update the bug
[22:20] <brutimus> okay.  thank you!
[22:20] <brutimus> sorry for the incorrect filing, btw.
[22:21] <hggdh> brutimus: no problem. I only went for it because I am also interested in it ;-)
[22:22] <brutimus> hggdh: you set the package as landscape-client.. shouldn't it be landscape-common ?
[22:23] <hggdh> brutimus: no. landscape-common is a binary package, generated from landscape-client
[22:24] <hggdh> so the source is -client
[22:24] <brutimus> oh okay
[22:27] <brutimus> hggdh: one more question regarding that package.  my server shows landscape-common is installed, but landscape-client is not.. maybe i don't fully understand how that works.
[22:27] <hggdh> brutimus: IIRC, landscape-common is installed by default. The -client is only needed if you subscribe to the landscape service
[22:27] <brutimus> i checked with apt-cache policy
[22:29] <brutimus> hggdh: okay. i will take your word for it. :-)
[22:30] <hggdh> :-)
[22:54] <maxb> Is there a best channel for asking about gstreamer bugs?
[23:02] <monkeylibre> hi, i think that the bug #521038 need a bugwatcher for Triaging, anyone could say me if I´m right (I´m learning)
[23:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 521038 in gcalctool (Ubuntu) "Backspace deletes all input (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521038
[23:31] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[23:33] <PrototypeX29A> i wrote this small program which in my mind should return my home dir http://pastebin.com/m60f03a27
[23:34] <PrototypeX29A> but it returns /root/
[23:40] <brutimus> PrototypeX29A: first off.. i think this is the wrong channel for such questions.. secondly getpwent returns the first entry of /etc/passwd, which is the root user
[23:40] <brutimus> i'd just use $HOME if possible
[23:42] <PrototypeX29A> yeah, maybe it is not actually a bug, but bad reading on my part
[23:42] <brutimus> PrototypeX29A: http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man3/getpwent.3.html
[23:42] <PrototypeX29A> yes, you're right
[23:55] <feuloren> #521198 should be set to wishlist


[12:11] <stanman246> posted this q also on #mythtv: is it possible to create a boot usb which boots into the frontend and connects to the master backend? If so: anyone knows a wiki how to do this?
[15:07] <Patrickdk> hmm, there is a mythtv live cd
[15:07] <Patrickdk> just put it on a usb stuck
[15:07] <Patrickdk> done
[15:40] <fibres> afternoon all
[15:45] <fibres> !help install
[15:45] <Zinn> !help install For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[15:56] <fibres> Can anyone help. I have just downloaded the mythbuntu 10.10 64bit. I have booted it, I see the mythbuntu with the scrolling white/orange dots then the screen goes into a load of grey lines and freezes. I think its a resolution issue but no idea how to change it.
[15:56] <fibres> !help resolution
[15:56] <Zinn> !help resolution For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[16:01] <genec> fibres: I think there's a kernel command line option to help but not sure what.  it'll be applicable to all Ubuntu variants.
[16:02] <genec> also, with regards to locking, try hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to VT1.  It's probably not locked.  Also try cycling NumLock/CapsLock and watch all 3 lock lights
[16:04] <fibres> Its not loocked up. I just canot get it to display the install screen.
[16:06] <genec> what's really bad is if you see numlock off and capslock/scrolllock blinking together.
[16:13] <fibres> I dont have and lock lights on my machine. The system is functioning as when I press ctrl, sysrq + K it reboots the X server. Screen goes blank and then revertf to millions of grey lines over the screen.
[16:13] <fibres> Well more like grey and black lines
[16:14] <genec> I've seen that kind of a screen before but normally not for long and mostly on older hardware.
[16:24] <fibres> Um weird. I got it permanently.
[16:25] <fibres> Ok time to try a newly downloaded 32bit version see if that makes a difference.
[16:27] <fibres> Nope. no difference at all
[17:40] <m4xx|home> for some reason not all buttons are registering in mythtv, like the back/exit and guide buttons. they are set up in my  lircd.conf file and in my lirc/mythtv file


[20:44] <nicolasvw> Hello, when packaging a java app and setting Build-Deps to default-jdk instead of openjdk-6-jdk, how should one set the JAVA_HOME variable in rules? If using CDBS, does it do that for you?


[08:02] <sakrecoer> morning
[08:05] <sakrecoer> krytarik asked a good question regarding the website yesterday that didn't get a proper answer, and i struggle with it myself: "move on with what".
[08:06] <sakrecoer> i'm largely blocked in the website issue. If we know a fix that could work, we should move on with it now, not wait another 2 weeks to see if RT might reconsider...
[08:07] <sakrecoer> and if we are the only ones using child theme, then i can poke arround the other flavours for 2 weeks, we already know they wont have any interest or need to put energy in it.
[08:12] <sakrecoer> this said, thanks for driving that meeting eylul. i know i said it already in -ot but i want the props to be in the logs :D
[15:47] <sakrecoer> this just in: pitti> sakrecoer: hey Set, how are you? I sent https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.zesty.drop-pm-utils/+merge/312134 (trivial), would you have a minute to merge/pull it?
[15:48] <sakrecoer> i think i know how to do it, but i figure you guys need to know... will send a mail to the list also.
[15:48] <sakrecoer> aaah... here we go with the "guys" again... lol
[20:32] <OvenWerks> /etc/init.d/ondemand needs to die! (be removed) I wonder which package it comes from so I can bug it.
[20:35] <OvenWerks> initscripts
[21:22] <OvenWerks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1646245
[21:44] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: it's like the biblical term "man" which most often means human.
[22:52] <krytarik> OvenWerks: With regards to your today's commit to -default-settings, can you fix the changelog please, since again v0.64 was never released?  And if you are eager, also strip down the .desktop file Ross added in r300 to avoid another bug report, as I did previously?