[22:13] <TheMuso> Texou: I don't know, I don't follow speech to text, and its not something I am personally interested in.


[00:16] <steeldevil> I can not find my irc client on 10.04 did I go blind?
[00:17] <steeldevil> hm well guess I have to install lets see how the software center does that
[12:30] <jml> is it possible to parametrize couch views the way you parametrize sql queries?
[12:40] <duanedesign> hello jml
[12:41] <jml> hello
[13:01] <lifeless> jml: do you mean in the client libraries?
[13:01] <lifeless> I thought views were naturally parameterised
[13:01] <jml> lifeless, I don't know what you mean.
[13:02] <jml> with SQL, you can do something like db.execute("SELECT ... WHERE foo = ? AND bar = ?", x, y)
[13:02] <jml> I want to do something like that.
[13:03] <lifeless> jml: I don't know enough here to really help, sorry :(
[13:03] <jml> I guess the answer is "put absolutely everything you care about parametrizing in your key"
[13:43] <mkarnicki> morning
[14:09] <kai> hi folks
[14:11] <duanedesign> kai: hello
[14:14] <mkarnicki> hi kai
[14:14] <mkarnicki> hi duanedesign
[14:15] <kai> so, what seems to be the best way to sync contacts between a bunch of computers given that ubuntuone contact sync still doesn't work?
[14:15] <kai> I can manually sync my couchdbs, but that's a bit tedious.
[14:15] <kai> is there a reasonable way to use the infrastructure set up for ubuntu one and use it for my private cloud?
[14:32]  * diplo wonders why I didn't read the status page before spending ages working out why my contacts weren't syncing :/
[14:59] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: thanks for thumbs up on the forums. if you're interested, I put up another weekly report http://goo.gl/42LU
[15:03] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: nice
[15:03] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: thanks :)
[15:17] <adiroiban> hi. any idea why I got this errors for desktopcouch http://paste.ubuntu.com/456406/ ?
[15:23] <duanedesign> adiroiban: currently couch replication is not working for a lot of people.  Tomorrow I will have a presentation on my university regarding CouchDB and Ubuntu-one... it looks like I will have to skip the demo :(
[15:28] <adiroiban> does this means that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status is obsolete and no longer updated?
[15:32] <mkarnicki> adiroiban: o oh..
[15:33] <mkarnicki> maybe they could enable your selectively o_O
[15:44] <duanedesign> adiroiban: the status page is updated
[15:45] <duanedesign> the message under 'Contacts' accurately describes the situation with CouchDB
[15:45] <adiroiban> duanedesign: for me, it said that notes are working
[15:45] <duanedesign> adiroiban: your notes are not syncing?
[15:46] <adiroiban> duanedesign: nope
[15:48] <adiroiban> duanedesign: for https://couchdb.one.ubuntu.com/u/MY_USER_ID/notes/ I get 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
[15:48] <adiroiban> same error for all other couchdb databases
[15:52] <duanedesign> adiroiban: is this what you followed to set up your note syncing?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Notes
[15:56] <adiroiban> duanedesign: no. I have a custom application that is directly accesing my local couchdb instance
[15:56] <adiroiban> Tomboy is just crashing when trying to syncronize the couchdb notes
[15:57] <adiroiban> I am also reading/editing my notes using Fulton
[16:05] <duanedesign> adiroiban: might try: tomboy --debug > ~/tomboy_debug.log
[16:05] <duanedesign> to get more info about why it crashes
[16:05] <adiroiban> duanedesign: yes, but this is a desktopcouch problem, since gwibber prefencences are not syncronized
[16:06] <adiroiban> and same to my other couchdb databases
[16:06] <duanedesign> adiroiban: tomboy uses the snowy protocol to sync
[16:11] <adiroiban> duanedesign: ok. but I expect desktopcouch to replicate my local couchdb intance to other computers using ubuntu one... on this is not working
[16:12] <duanedesign> adiroiban: yeah it is frustrating i know. Hopefully it will be back on for you, and all of us, soon
[16:13] <duanedesign> they have to turn it on X number of users at a time to keep from degrading the service performance
[16:13] <adiroiban> duanedesign: no problem, I just wanted to say this is not an Tomboy specific problem and that I don't realy care about tomboy
[16:13] <duanedesign> :) i gotcha
[17:59] <popey> hmm, dashboard says I have 21 notes. i actually have 5
[20:46] <bj0> is there a quick way to disable ubuntu one syncing?
[20:55] <duanedesign> hello bj0
[20:56] <duanedesign> bj0: you can open the Ubuntu One Preferences found under the 'Me Menu'. The 'Services' Tab allows you to turn the services on and off
[21:14] <kblin> hi folks
[21:39] <duanedesign> hi kblin
[22:07] <kblin> so assuming I've written my own cloud service script for desktopcouch, how would I get applications to use that instead of the UbuntuOne script?
[22:19] <rye> kblin, ? you mean replicate to another service ?
[22:19] <rye> duanedesign, hi :)
[22:19] <kblin> yeah
[22:20] <kblin> seeing how the most interesting parts of ubuntuone still don't work
[22:20] <kblin> I don't want to buy music or share files, I want to sync my contacts
[22:21] <kblin> I can do that manually using the couchdb web frontend, but that's a bit clumsy for multiple boxes
[22:21] <rye> kblin, desktopcouch replicates to anything that is specified in management db
[22:23] <kblin> interesting
[22:23] <rye> quick update on the couchdb status i got today from thisfred - there is an upgrade planned for couchdb services that will have numerous bug fixes (that are not visible on the client-side) and then the work to resume replication will continue.
[22:24] <kblin> is there any sort of documentation on this?
[22:25] <kblin> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/server_identity is a dead link
[22:26] <kblin> I also gather there's no GUI that allows any selection of service providers, right?
[22:27] <rye> hm, need to look at desktopcouch-pair
[22:30] <duanedesign> hello rye. o/
[22:40] <bj0> duanedesign, i see, thanks, i had just hit 'disconnect' on my computer
[22:40] <bj0> ubuntuone seems like deleting files from my ubuntu one directory every several days or so, even when they don't change at all :/
[22:42] <rye> bj0, hm, have you filed a bug report?
[22:42] <rye> bj0, and we would be more than glad to have the logs from your client
[22:43] <bj0> i don't really have any information about whats going on
[22:43] <bj0> where are the logs kept?
[22:43] <rye> bj0, deleting files = ?
[22:43] <rye> bj0, ~/.local/cache/ubuntuone/log/
[22:43] <bj0> i just noticed the files missing sometimes, and i copy them back from my backup drive
[22:44] <rye> bj0, what type of files are being removed - some specific like image/jpeg or random?
[22:44] <bj0> some are images files, a pdf file and a .lyx file,  but all the files in that directory are encrypted using encfs
[22:45] <bj0> so ubuntuone just sees the encrypted directory
[22:45] <larryjor57> Hello?  Can anyone help with Ubuntu One requirements?
[22:45] <rye> bj0, hm, well i tried w/ encryptfs and it was not very good at syncing because it never got file change notification
[22:46] <larryjor57> I can't get my "contacts" to sync, looking at the log file it says it can't authenticate.... see mention of wxgtk2.8, which doesn't install for me... is it needed?
[22:47] <kblin> larryjor57: contacts sync doesn't work, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status#Contacts
[22:47] <rye> larryjor57, are you using phone contacts sync or attempting to use Evolution <-> Web interface contact sync? The latter is still disabled due to server-side being not really stable
[22:47] <rye> btw
[22:47] <rye> quick update on couchdb and replication
[22:48] <larryjor57> Ok   thanks rye... that would be it then.  I'm trying to sync contacts from Evolution.
[22:49] <rye> there is an upgrade planned next week which is coordinated with couch.io that will bring couchdb 0.11 to the servers with multiple bug fixes that may help to prevent couchdb hanging on authentication (when you see "server with notes/contacts is not responding" this is basically it).
[22:49] <bj0> rye, that seems odd that it wouldn't be able to tell when files are modified, but even so, why would it be deleting files?
[22:50] <rye> after the upgrade is done they will continue monitoring the state of couchdb stability
[22:50] <larryjor57> Ok then, tks for info rye.  What is unstable about it?
[22:50] <rye> bj0, that's why could you please open a bug report and attach the whole archive of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/
[22:51] <larryjor57> Anyway, that answers my question... will wait for it to work later...  Tks again rye.  Bye for now
[22:51] <bj0> i could... but since the filenames are mangled, i'm not sure which file in the log corresponds to the ones dissappearing
[22:52] <rye> bj0, still it will be helpful to have the log files
[22:53] <rye> ah, i was using ecryptfs, that did not work well
[22:53] <bj0> i'm using encfs, which is somewhat similar, though uses fuse
[22:54] <bj0> do you know why it doesn't work well? as soon as you change something in the mounted directory doesn't it change it in the encrypted directory?
[22:54] <bj0> oh yea, and wheres the bug tracker
[22:56] <bj0> found it
[23:07] <duanedesign> bj0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+filebug
[23:09] <duanedesign> actually the command: apport-bug ubuntuone-client       would be ideal
[23:10] <bj0> oh, too late
[23:10] <bj0> heh
[23:11] <duanedesign> bj0: :)
[23:19] <rye> bj0, is there any pattern on how you believe files are deleted
[23:19] <rye> ?
[23:21] <bj0> i'm not sure
[23:21] <bj0> you mean when they happen, or which files?
[23:21] <bj0> it always seems to be the same files
[23:37] <rye> bj0, hm, when did you notice that the files were gone the last time?
[23:39] <bj0> i haven't been keeping track, probably a week or so ago
[23:40] <rye> hm
[23:41] <rye> bj0, no activity spotted there since 23rd of June
[23:41] <bj0> activity?
[23:42] <bj0> the files were there i'm pretty sure on the 24th
[23:42] <bj0> then i was gone for the weekend and i checked today
[23:42] <bj0> and they were gone
[23:47] <rye> bj0, there is only one mentioning of file removal and it is the internal operation, on 2010-06-27 16:19:08. I am setting up ecryptfs udf to see what happens
[23:48] <bj0> huh i thought i was using encfs, but i guess i am using encryptfs instead
[23:49] <rye> bj0, yes, it looks pretty much like this, based on the filenames
[23:49] <rye> brb, maverick kernel upgrade, reboot neede
[23:49] <rye> d


[00:12] <mifritscher> hi
[00:13] <mifritscher> starting with 8.10, I can't rotate the lcd from my x61 (x3100) anymore -  I get a "xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed"
[00:13] <mifritscher> happens with 9.04, too
[00:13] <mifritscher> message in teh xorg.log:
[00:13] <mifritscher> (EE) intel(0): Couldn't allocate shadow memory for rotated CRTC
[00:16] <mifritscher> ah, and disabling the input devices in the xorg.conf isn't always a good solution - I got settings for my tablet in there^^
[00:35] <level1> hi, I want to debootstrap jaunty from hardy, but the script /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/jaunty doesn't exist... what should I do?
[02:06]  * DanaG wonders if KMS for Radeon will end up in Jaunty.
[02:06] <DanaG> Even if we don't get Plymouth, I'd love to have a good framebuffer resolution.
[02:08] <RAOF> DanaG: I think the answer is "unlikely".  I don't think KMS for is slated for 2.6.29, and we're not likely to pull in .30 :)
[02:09] <DanaG> Ah.
[02:09] <DanaG> Will we at least get 2.6.29?
[02:09] <DanaG> If so, that's good news -- it means I'll be able to use a daemon for the HP 3D DriveGuard (accelerometer and LED).
[02:09] <DanaG> I just wish the OSS Radeon module had PowerPlay support.
[04:33] <realmatt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112646/
[04:33] <realmatt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112644/
[12:59] <judgen> Why does rhythmbox claim i dont have codecs for some of my files, but still plays them.
[12:59] <judgen> this problem was not present in older versions
[13:54] <cwillu> can somebody pastebin me their /etc/ls-base-logging.sh?
[13:55] <cwillu> oooo, nevermind, networking came up
[14:04] <BUGabundo1> cwillu: good afternoon
[14:04] <BUGabundo1> bash: /etc/ls-base-logging.sh: No such file or directory
[14:04] <BUGabundo1> wouldn't be much help
[14:05] <cwillu> lsb-
[14:05] <cwillu> believe me, if you don't have it, you'd be in as much trouble as I was :p
[14:05] <cwillu> which isn't _that_ much, but you wouldn't have x
[14:06] <cwillu> guess I shouldn't have said ls-... then myself, eh?
[14:08] <BUGabundo1> I don't seem to have it cwillu but I have X up and running
[14:09] <BUGabundo1> duh
[14:09] <BUGabundo1> I see what you mean: lsb not ls
[14:09] <BUGabundo1> that I have... if you still need it
[14:10] <cwillu> no, I got network access on the machine
[14:11] <cwillu> file doesn't exist in intrepid, and would seem to be deeply woven into things now :p
[14:12] <cwillu> thanks though
[14:14] <BUGabundo1> cwillu: np
[15:15] <shadowhywind> hay all I am having an issue, my left click on my touchpad, is acting as a left click and a paste command at the same time, anyone have any ideas?
[15:16] <maxb> shadowhywind: First, try installing todays updates, including xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 0.99.3-2ubuntu2
[15:17] <shadowhywind> k, installing that one
[15:17] <shadowhywind> well all of them (is what i meant)
[15:19] <rainmanp7> :)
[15:21] <shadowhywind> wish me luck going to reboot (have to anyways)
[15:22] <mlpug> Shuttleworth wrote 8.9.08 when introducing Jaunty: "Another goal is the blurring of web services and desktop applications". Will there be something specific on this in the final release?
[15:23] <mlpug> some desktop widget concept or something?
[15:24] <BUGabundo1> mlpug: I haven't seen anything like that come up, yet
[15:24] <shadowhywind> THANK YOU!!!!!!!
[15:25] <shadowhywind> my touchpad is once again useable
[15:25] <maxb> wish mine was :-/
[15:26] <shadowhywind> maxb: sorry to hear that, same issue as mine?
[15:27] <maxb> No, on mine it's that edge-scrolling is broken in the new driver. I've rolled back to 0.15.2-0ubuntu8 meanwhile
[15:28] <shadowhywind> oh (just checked mine and its working, hehe
[15:28] <maxb> Seems to be hardware-specific
[15:36] <rainmanp7> Wine 1.1.4 now works with the new updates applied to jaunty. The update manager is working for it as well to upgrade it :)
[15:37] <rainmanp7> I just got the ibex version to roll into it :)
[15:37] <shadowhywind> also another question. At one time i was able to decide if my CPU was set for dynamic/powersave/etc.. I don't have that anymore, is there a package i have to isntall for that?
[15:38] <BUGabundo1> shadowhywind: that's no longer recommend
[15:38] <BUGabundo1> you should read mgf blog to get the full picture
[15:38] <shadowhywind> BUGabundo1: why?
[15:38] <BUGabundo1> why should hw or kernel managing it
[15:38] <BUGabundo1> but you can still set uid to the applet and control the CPU
[15:39] <BUGabundo1> but it will be unsuported
[15:39] <shadowhywind> because when I am on power I like it being set for Dynamic, but when on power set it to powersave
[15:39] <BUGabundo1> http://mjg59.livejournal.com/
[15:39] <BUGabundo1> and search for it
[15:40] <shadowhywind> that and the guidance-powermanager hasn't shown me using my full CPU potiential yet
[15:40] <BUGabundo1> there should be 4 or 5 posts about it, from last year
[15:40] <BUGabundo1> shadowhywind: yeah I agree too
[15:40] <BUGabundo1> but it seems the the GURUs believe that powersave actually uses MORE power
[15:40] <BUGabundo1> 'cause it makes the CPU take longer to finish
[15:41] <shadowhywind> well true
[15:41] <BUGabundo1> but as I said, you can set uid it.... so prob worked around
[16:00] <danbhfive> !schedule
[16:29] <jonaskoelker> how do I build fglrx.ko for 2.6.28-6-generic?
[17:20] <dyf> hello.. i have an Nvidia mobile graphics card and when i installed 9.04, X was messed up.. i rebooted and chose "automatically solve graphics problems".. i am able now to log in but the Restricted Drivers manager doesn't see my Nvidia graphics card.. any ideas on how to solve this?
[17:25] <Aondo> dyf  call on nvidia to support the X version or to release an open source driver for anyone else to fix it! :D
[17:26] <maxb> Aondo: nVidia have already released a version supporting Jaunty's X, and it's in the repositories
[17:27] <dyf> i don't know.. it seems that i have 295 updates pending.. i'll update packages and see
[17:27] <dyf> so do i just install nvidia-glx or something? i think it should've been installed by default
[17:28] <Aondo> maxb  for all drivers/cards?
[17:28] <maxb> I believe that's what the changelog said
[17:29] <Aondo> ok, spoke too soon then :P
[17:29] <maxb> Well, not 177, that's obsoleted by 180
[18:31] <realmatt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112644/ shows the output of "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:32] <realmatt> not sure what to do here
[18:33] <BUGabundo1> realmatt: hi
[18:33] <maxb> realmatt: It's a bug which you should file, but meanwhile 'sudo apt-get install kdelibs-data- kdelibs5-data' might manoeuvre around the problem
[18:33] <BUGabundo1> either it's a dependy bug
[18:33] <BUGabundo1> or package hasn't build yet
[18:37] <realmatt> I'm pretty new at this.  Could you point me in the right direction to file a bug?
[18:40] <BUGabundo1> realmatt: do you have a launchpad account already?
[18:40] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[18:40] <BUGabundo1> or better yet
[18:41] <BUGabundo1> apport-cli -fp kdelibs
[18:42] <realmatt> BUGabundo1: I ran "apport-cli -fp kdelibs" and it finished
[18:43] <BUGabundo1> it should have open a broswer
[18:43] <BUGabundo1> and took you to
[18:43] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[18:52] <realmatt> I have submitted the bug
[18:53] <BUGabundo1> okay
[19:00] <dyf> i was able to install the restricted nvidia drivers but when i hit alt-ctrl-F1, the screen goes black with some noise in the middle
[19:00] <dyf> kinda like a broken screen
[19:00] <BUGabundo1> dyf: jaunty?
[19:00] <dyf> BUGabundo1: yes
[19:00] <BUGabundo1> mine is fine...
[19:01] <BUGabundo1> what driver version?
[19:01] <BUGabundo1> 180 ?
[19:01] <dyf> i had the same problem with opensuse
[19:01] <dyf> yeah.. 180
[19:01] <BUGabundo1> what card model?
[19:01] <dyf> not sure.. it's a mobile card
[19:01] <BUGabundo1> dotn you have a logo or something on it?
[19:02] <BUGabundo1> dyf: install and run sysinfo
[19:02] <dyf> Geforce 7159M/nForce 630M
[19:02] <dyf> 7150*
[19:02] <BUGabundo1> okay
[19:02] <BUGabundo1> I would say: file a bug
[19:03] <dyf> oh.. i never filed a bug, i don't want to waste the developers time with a crappy bug report
[19:03] <BUGabundo1> apport-cli -fp nvidia-glx-180
[19:04] <BUGabundo1> that's a bad set of mind
[19:04] <BUGabundo1> that's why WE use alpha/betas
[19:04] <BUGabundo1> to find and fix bugs so that Release is stable as possible
[19:04] <BUGabundo1> or is it not?
[19:04] <dyf> i use it because i want the latest drivers for my laptop
[19:04] <BUGabundo1> ROFL
[19:05] <BUGabundo1> no need to use jaunty then
[19:05] <dyf> but i issued that command, hopefully it'll send a good report
[19:06] <dyf> i don't have time to tinker with settings anymore.. i installed 9.04 and everything worked out of the box
[19:06] <dyf> that's the sole reason why i'm using it
[19:07] <dyf> and my assignments for my programming course have to be compiled with linux
[19:08] <BUGabundo1> dyf: then you should be on a stable release
[19:08] <BUGabundo1> development version can and WILL cause breakage
[19:08] <BUGabundo1> and in a few days/weeks YOU will come here winning its not working!
[19:10] <dyf> yeah, when it breaks, i'll think about it
[19:10] <BUGabundo1> eheh
[19:10] <BUGabundo1> hope its not in the day before you have to have your school work done
[19:11] <dyf> it's not like i'm running the mainframe of the subway stations system
[19:11] <BUGabundo1> Murphys law!!
[19:11] <dyf> oh.. how come they have blender 2.46 in the repositories still?
[19:11] <dyf> 2.48 was out like a month ago
[19:11] <dyf> and 2.47 was out 3 months ago
[19:12] <BUGabundo1> dyf: fell free to file a bug for a manual sync
[19:12] <BUGabundo1> or help, and provide your self the diffs
[19:13] <BUGabundo1> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bleedingedge/+archive/ppa
[19:14] <dyf> thanks
[19:26] <DrHalan> hey, i don't have any thumbnails for flv files though gstreamer can play them
[19:55] <Cruster> hi, is there any way to manually write files in /proc/acpi/.....?
[20:57]  * maxb wonders why his GNOME fonts have mysteriously increased in size
[20:57] <lucent> maxb: did gnome-settings-daemon crash on you?
[20:58] <maxb> Seems to be running
[21:00] <lucent> could be any number of reasons
[21:00]  * maxb eyes the libgnome update that said something about dpi
[21:00] <lucent> that's most likely
[21:00] <maxb> and sets about rolling it back
[21:03] <maxb> Aha
[21:04] <maxb> So I've twiddled the gconf value and now I have a sane desktop again
[21:28] <atiredmachine> Hi, I'm using a ThinkPad T43.  One of the semi-recent updates to Jaunty broke sound.  When gnome loads it plays Ubuntu's normal intro sound, but after that no programs make sounds.  In the Sound preferences I have no output devices listed.
[21:29] <maxb> Try with the very recent updates, I saw a changelog entry purporting to fix that
[21:32] <atiredmachine> thanks maxb, I'll check that out.
[21:33] <maxb> atiredmachine: If that doesn't help, then disabling the login sound completely in gnome-session-properties might be a workaround
[21:34] <SwedeMike> atiredmachine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/322374
[21:39] <rainmanp7> Ok does anyone know where i can upload a wallpaper for jaunty ?
[21:40] <rainmanp7> Or rather a linux upload wallpaper website ?
[22:00] <rainmanp7> Ok can someone check my wallpaper and tell me what they think of it ?
[22:00] <fosco_> rainmanp7: i'll check
[22:01] <rainmanp7> ok cool can i apste the link in private or here
[22:01] <rainmanp7> It was my first using the gimp program
[22:01] <rainmanp7> http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/98717-Desk1.Final2.png
[22:03] <fosco_> umm
[22:03] <fosco_> not bad, but i like abstract ones
[22:06] <TheImp> the font is baaad. it looks like "oh wait. i have a professional graphic app at my pc ... its called ... wait i have to look ... ah! gimp!"
[22:07] <TheImp> sorry ;)
[22:08] <rainmanp7> yeah I'm not good with gimp at all
[22:08] <TheImp> rainmanp7: you have to fit the font much more to the hand. the hand has a profile, and a tatoo would be part of this structure
[22:08] <rainmanp7> yeah I wanted to tatoo here right on the arm
[22:09] <rainmanp7> but I'm new to all the tools and such and not sure howw to load fonts directly too the gimp thing
[22:10] <TheImp> write the tatoo at your arm and have a look at the perspective :)
[22:10] <rainmanp7> YheImp hehe
[22:11] <rainmanp7> k
[22:19] <rainmanp7> TheImp what is the thing that takes a image and chucks in into 2 colors ?
[22:20] <TheImp> hmm. dont know where you refer to ... ?
[22:27]  * charlie-tca is thinking "camera with b/w film"
[22:40] <spr0k3t> http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/98717-Desk1.Final2.png
[22:41] <spr0k3t> oops, wrong button.  ignore ^^^
[22:47] <lucasvo> I have just updated to jaunty and my rhythmbox stopped playing all my mp3 files. I reinstalled all the bad and ugly gstreamer plugins, but it didn't help.
[22:48] <lucasvo> (23:48:14) [0x87a9408] [error_cb] rb-shell-player.c:3571: got error for unexpected entry (nil) (expected 0x9134948)
[22:50] <hvgotcodes> hey if i used prevu to get a jaunty package, and that package has since been updated, do i just prevu the package source again to update?
[23:34] <phomes> I put the warnings up at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGames/CompilerWarnings The list is not ideal as it only lists filenames, not paths. For most parts it is obvious what file it is
[23:36] <phomes> ops. Wrong chan


[01:49] <omegatron> hm, this doesn't seem right to be some "we are the *official* bazaar vcs channel and migrated from freenode to libera"   =D
[02:13] <pabs3> there is also #breezy on OFTC
[02:13] <pabs3> bazaar is no longer developed btw
[02:36] <omegatron> yeah, I know .. I'm trying to figure out, which vcs makes sense to install/use on my server and breezy (or maybe bazaar) are right now one of the better candidates
[03:33] <pabs3> personally I'd choose git :)
[04:44] <omegatron> I would, if no nodejs would be involved
[11:21] <Alphare> As a Mercurial core dev I can vouch for hg, but I'm biased ;)
[15:03] <omegatron> to admit, i'm not so much concerned about the choice of the "backend", but more about a pleasing "frontend - web interface" - I guess git, hg and the others are for 90% of the usual work equally good today, each with another flavour


[06:05] <hikiko> hi
[07:58] <ioanm> hi guys, 1 question I have noticed a bug in unity 7 in ubuntu 14.04 lts whenever i launch an app in the recent list, the icon disappears from the unity search window while the app(if I press super i can see the icon disappear) and reappears short after app closes
[07:59] <ioanm> may I be assigned to fix it?
[08:02] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:02] <ioanm> seb128, hi
[08:02] <seb128> ioanm, hey, I think what you describe is a feature and not a bug
[08:03] <seb128> why would you want to start something already open?
[08:04] <ioanm> seb128, you might wanna open two firefox instances
[08:04] <ioanm> seb128, or 2 terminals
[08:04] <pitti> hey seb128, bonjour !
[08:04] <seb128> ioanm, you can use the launcher icon for that
[08:05] <happyaron> hey seb128, :)
[08:05] <seb128> if something is open you have an icon in the launcher
[08:05] <ioanm> seb128, so it's a feature
[08:05] <seb128> hey pitti happyaron
[08:05] <seb128> ioanm, would need to check with Trevinho to be sure but I think it's on purpose yes
[08:05] <ioanm> seb128, being a dev seems unlike someone would delete an icon by mistake
[08:05] <ioanm> from memory
[08:05] <ioanm> *unlikely
[08:08] <ioanm> seb128, okay please ask him
[08:08] <seb128> ioanm, well you can as well, he's on this channel
[08:09] <seb128> though he might be travelling back from fosdem tonight
[08:10] <seb128> tonight->today
[08:15] <larsu> good morning!
[08:16] <ioanm> larsu, gm too
[08:16] <ioanm> can someone please assign to me something to work on?
[08:20] <Laney> heeeeeeeeeeeeeey
[08:21] <larsu> Laney: heeyyy!
[08:21] <pitti> good morning Laney and larsu!
[08:22] <ioanm> i'll just sync cmd2
[08:28] <larsu> hi pitti! Did you have a good trip home?
[08:28] <larsu> (are you home?)
[08:30] <pitti> larsu: yes, I am; it was nice and calm in first class :)
[08:30] <pitti> got to bed around 1:30
[08:30] <pitti> larsu: how about you?
[08:31] <larsu> nice!
[08:31] <larsu> we're great! Sitting in a fancy meeting room for a sprint of 3 :)
[08:33] <Laney> related link: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/html/xenial/main/issues/index.html
[08:48] <seb128> hey again there
[08:49] <larsu> seb128:!
[08:49] <Laney> seeeeeeeeeeeb
[08:49] <larsu> good moning
[08:49] <larsu> when do you come down?
[08:49] <seb128> lol, good one
[08:49] <seb128> I said I might do it, but likely not
[08:49] <seb128> my laptop is giving ata kernel error
[08:49] <seb128> ecryptfs-mount segfaults in libnss3
[08:50] <seb128> trying to get back to my user dir and datas
[08:50] <seb128> that's annoying
[08:50] <seb128> that's not a good start of week :-/
[08:50] <seb128> Laney, larsu, how is the hackfest going?
[08:50] <larsu> seb128: :( Good luck!
[08:51] <seb128> thanks
[08:51] <larsu> seb128: just teasing you ;)
[08:51] <seb128> I know :-)
[08:51] <seb128> I wonder if the laptop or the disk is at issue
[08:51] <larsu> seb128: we're in a fancy room that is too big. Otherwise we just started out
[08:51] <seb128> or the kernel
[08:51] <larsu> ze kernel!
[08:51] <seb128> did Matthias join you guys?
[08:54] <larsu> seb128: he's not here yet
[08:55] <seb128> k
[08:57] <willcooke> morning all
[08:59] <larsu> willcooke: morning! thanks for the fancy room ;)
[08:59] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:59] <willcooke> larsu, ah, good.  I just pinged Laney about that.  All ok?
[09:00] <larsu> willcooke: I know you did :P (we read irc aloud)
[09:00] <larsu> willcooke: yep, it's great. Tea water not hot enough, but I think we'll be able to cope
[09:01] <willcooke> ha!
[09:11] <alexarnaud> hello all!
[09:11] <alexarnaud> Do you have a good week-end ?
[09:14] <alexarnaud> .
[09:16] <seb128> hey alexarnaud, yes w.e was good... how was yours?
[09:24] <andyrock> good morning
[09:26] <seb128> hey andyrock, how are you?
[09:26] <andyrock> seb128: not bad thanks
[09:27] <andyrock> what about you?
[09:28] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[09:28] <seb128> though fighting with disk/laptop issues
[09:30] <willcooke> morning alexarnaud andyrock
[09:30] <alexarnaud> seb128: very good week-end, thank you
[09:30] <alexarnaud> hey willcooke andyrock :)!
[09:48] <seb128> hum, might be a kernel issue, boot with the previous kernel was fine
[09:48] <willcooke> uh oh
[09:48] <seb128> if I boot the current one I get ata errors and libnss3.so gets corrupted on boot which makes ecryptfs-mount segfault
[09:48] <seb128> which I had "fun" to debug
[09:48] <willcooke> yikes
[09:49] <seb128> if I reinstall libnss3 I can mount it and log in
[09:49] <seb128> but on reboot it gets corrupted again for some reason
[09:49] <seb128> but at least I've a working machine now, after fiddling with debsums and reinstalling for like over an hour
[09:52] <willcooke> :((((
[09:58] <ksamak> didrocks: hoy! back to work?
[09:58] <ksamak> XD
[10:01] <didrocks> hey!
[10:01] <didrocks> :)
[10:05] <seb128> hey didrocks
[10:06] <seb128> didrocks, how is life in marketing?
[10:06] <seb128> having fancy tea served at the office? ;-)
[10:11] <didrocks> hey seb128 :)
[10:11] <didrocks> tsssss ;)
[10:12] <didrocks> still with a cappuccino
[10:13] <seb128> ;-)
[10:13] <seb128> how was fosdem?
[10:13] <seb128> and you trip to London?
[10:13] <seb128> your*
[10:16] <didrocks> fosdem was fun, as usual!
[10:17] <didrocks> trip to London, 30 minutes late (stopped at Calais for a long time)
[10:17] <didrocks> but otherwise, good
[10:18] <seb128> great
[11:02] <alexarnaud> didrocks: do you change of job ? Do you wear sun glasses ?
[11:03] <ogra_> suits and ties
[11:09] <didrocks> and drinking champaign the whole time!
[11:09] <ogra_> !
[11:11] <willcooke> http://i.imgur.com/58TsPOP.gif
[11:12] <ogra_> +1
[11:12] <ogra_> :)
[11:13] <alexarnaud> seb128: Where can I find the latest branch of the gnome-settings-daemon package ?
[11:13] <alexarnaud> seb128: I start to search at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon but I don't find the branch related to Xenial
[11:14] <davmor2> alexarnaud: https://media.giphy.com/media/4c5OF9pxc9pao/giphy.gif
[11:14] <davmor2> willcooke: this is always the response if someone asks if you wear sunglasses ;) ^
[11:15] <willcooke> :D
[11:16] <alexarnaud> darkxst: sorry I'm0 visual impaired, I don't understand the fun of the image
[11:18] <darkxst> alexarnaud, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu
[11:18] <darkxst> alexarnaud, what image?
[11:19] <davmor2> alexarnaud: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark............ and we are wearing sunglasses (Quote from blues brothers)
[11:20] <darkxst> alexarnaud, in general packaging branches are listed under vcs-bzr tag in the packages debian/control if they exist
[11:26] <alexarnaud> darkxst: thanks
[13:59] <qengho> When your logrotate is still running at 9AM, there's something wrong.  //  -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 517G Jan 24 10:37 /var/log/kern.log.1
[13:59] <qengho> Good morning!
[14:01] <willcooke> hey qengho
[14:02] <seb128> hello qengho
[14:02] <seb128> kernel fun it seems!
[14:02] <seb128> or is that some third party driver you use or something?
[14:02] <qengho> Oh, nouveau, Thanks for 58 thousand syslog messages per second (alternating, a,b,a,b,a,b so there is no de-duplication).
[14:08] <qengho> Oh man, that's only 14 minutes of syslog.
[15:24] <qengho> willcooke: did you find the Tube entrance?
[15:24] <willcooke> qengho, yes!  I'll post some pics
[15:25] <qengho> Sweet.
[15:41] <willcooke> qengho, https://goo.gl/photos/uhNahNAMGZUt8gSr6
[15:41] <willcooke> desktoppers, pics from Friday ^^
[15:42] <seb128> willcooke, did they turn it into a museum or something or was it a special day?
[15:42] <willcooke> they use it for training and film sets.  When it's not being used they run tours round
[15:43] <seb128> cool
[17:22] <Laney> larsu: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/scratch/html/xenial/main/index.html
[17:31] <larsu> when does free willcooke come about?
[17:31] <larsu> Laney is asking
[17:31] <willcooke> eh?
[17:32] <larsu> he *might* have meant free will instead
[17:32] <larsu> *maybe*
[17:35] <seb128> manager trolling!
[17:35] <seb128> though I've to say I didn't understand the trolling :-/
[17:36] <Laney> probably only makes sense in this one room
[17:36] <seb128> what I though :p
[17:40] <larsu> seb128: never would we troll anyone!
[17:41] <seb128> jjjja
[17:41] <alexarnaud> didrocks: are you available to discuss packaging of session-migration ?
[17:41] <seb128> alexarnaud, you better just ask your question on the channel, didrocks is travelling for a sprint this week
[17:41] <alexarnaud> OK seb128
[17:42] <alexarnaud> I'm trying to compile session-migration on Debian Sid
[17:46] <alexarnaud> I've a path issue
[17:46] <alexarnaud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14850930/
[17:48] <alexarnaud> I'm trying to change the install file with debian/tmp/ at the begining of each lines without result.
[17:48] <alexarnaud> With "debian/tmp/" at the begining of each lines I obtain a "permission denied" even if I'm in root
[17:49] <alexarnaud> maybe something I don't know in the diffrence between Debian and Ubuntu
[17:54] <seb128> alexarnaud, do you have that debian/session-migration.install file?
[17:54] <seb128> can you share your source directory?
[17:55] <alexarnaud> seb128: yes, I have
[17:56] <alexarnaud> I use the upstream Ubuntu file
[17:56] <alexarnaud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14851008/
[17:57] <seb128> can you do "ls -R debian/tmp"
[17:57] <alexarnaud> seb128: I've modified the install file like that
[17:57] <seb128> in the builddir when you get the issue
[17:57] <seb128> why did you modify them?
[17:57] <seb128> it uses debian/compat 9
[17:58] <seb128> so usr/... is correct
[17:58] <alexarnaud> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14851023/
[17:58] <seb128> what's the issue if you try to build the unmodified source?
[17:59] <alexarnaud> The issue is that : /home/test/session-migration/session-migration/debian/session-migration.install: 1: /home/test/session-migration/session-migration/debian/session-migration.install: usr/bin/session-migration: not found
[18:00] <alexarnaud> I don't know what it doesn't find the file
[18:00] <alexarnaud> seb128: it this log (http://paste.ubuntu.com/14850930/) you can find the all log
[18:01] <alexarnaud> I've read it but I don't know the issue.
[18:02] <seb128> alexarnaud, try to "dh_install -v --fail-missing"
[18:02] <seb128> and see what it says
[18:02] <alexarnaud> seb128: OK
[18:02] <seb128> and see if e.g debian/tmp/usr/bin/session-migration is available
[18:07] <alexarnaud> For me it's the same log
[18:07] <alexarnaud> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14851107/
[18:17] <didrocks> seb128: thanks for the patch hint! I'm building n-m and will check tonight :)
[18:31] <seb128> didrocks, yw, thanks for testing!
[18:31] <seb128> alexarnaud, weird, dunno what's going on, try starting dh_install manually and see if the files it lists are on disk
[18:34] <Laney> larsu is having a sad time with python
[18:34] <seb128> :-(
[18:34] <didrocks> but but, python is great!
[18:34] <seb128> didrocks is at the wrong sprint
[18:34] <didrocks> :p
[18:34] <seb128> he should be Brussel!
[18:35] <seb128> +in
[18:35] <Laney> come back
[18:35] <Laney> it's only 2 hours
[18:36] <didrocks> ahah
[18:38] <Laney> we haz clouds
[18:41] <alexarnaud> hum
[18:41] <alexarnaud> ls -l debian/tmp/usr/bin/
[18:41] <alexarnaud> total 36
[18:41] <alexarnaud> -rwxr-xr-x 1 test test 35080 Feb  1 19:07 session-migration
[18:41] <alexarnaud> (sorry for the paste)
[18:42] <alexarnaud> the files are available in debian/tmp/
[20:18] <willcooke> morning robert_ancell
[20:18] <willcooke> *pounce*
[20:18] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hi
[20:18] <robert_ancell> I was ready for it :)
[20:19] <willcooke> :)
[20:19] <Laney> we are l8 nite sprinting
[20:19] <willcooke> attente, seb128 - if you guys are around, can you be free in say, 20 mins?
[20:19] <willcooke> oh hi Laney
[20:19] <willcooke> Laney, you might want in on this too, if you're free in 20 mins ^
[20:20] <attente> sure
[20:20] <Laney> possiblé
[20:20] <willcooke> he's buggered off
[20:20] <willcooke> so he has, he's scarped

[20:21] <willcooke> oki, I've just got a quick 1:1 with Robert and then we'll hangout and talk GS
[20:30] <seb128> willcooke, k
[20:30] <seb128> hey robert_ancell
[20:30] <robert_ancell> seb128, hi
[20:53] <willcooke> Laney, attente, seb128 - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/robert-will?authuser=0
[20:56] <Laney> I have requested to join
[21:10] <willcooke> thank you all
[21:11] <willcooke> Laney, Laney seb128, attente robert_ancell ^
[21:11] <seb128> robert_ancell, are fwupd/fwupdate pieces we need to land it? or are they to enable extra features which we could do with a following upload?
[21:11] <seb128> willcooke, yw!
[21:11] <robert_ancell> seb128, I have MIRs for all the components for GS 3.18. Haven't looked yet at any more work required to backport from master
[21:11] <Laney> meet ximion
[21:12] <seb128> hey ximion
[21:12] <seb128> robert_ancell, yeah, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwupdate/+bug/1508926 seems like the security team might need time to do another review and had issues, so they might still have some concerns
[21:12] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1508926 in fwupdate (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fwupdate" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[21:12] <ximion> robert_ancell: hi! I heard you have pinned down the remove-doesnt-work issue in gnome-software?
[21:13] <robert_ancell> ximion, no, I think willcooke was mixing up with another issue there
[21:13] <seb128> robert_ancell, one of the comment is "needs pesign from universe"
[21:13] <Laney> what's the packagekit problem then?
[21:13] <seb128> and that doesn't seem like it has a MIR yet?
[21:14] <ximion> robert_ancell: damn - hughsie and I looked at it and found no issue on the PackageKit side, although hughsie still thinks the aptcc backend might be to blame. I placed a bet on a g-s bug now :P
[21:14] <ximion> maybe I will look at this issue again next
[21:14] <ximion> it also affects Debian and is really annoying
[21:14] <Laney> it's broken in debian too
[21:14] <Laney> :)
[21:14] <robert_ancell> ximion, I will have a look too and see if I can see anything
[21:14] <Laney> or :(
[21:15] <seb128> robert_ancell, said differently, I foresee that the fwupdate MIR ack is going to take some time, are we blocked by it or is a way to build without it so we can land gnome-software even if it doesn't have those options working (yet)
[21:15] <robert_ancell> seb128, We can patch out the fwupd stuff since it's all new if necessary
[21:15] <seb128> k, good
[21:15] <Laney> it's a configure check
[21:15] <robert_ancell> even easier
[21:15] <seb128> even better
[21:16] <robert_ancell> seb128, G-S is pretty modular so it's not hard to disable/enable various features.
[21:16] <ximion> robert_ancell: that'd be great - we know so far that aptcc emits all the expected signals g-s needs, pkcon works flawlessly, this issue does not affect KDE Discover or Elementary's Appcenter, and GNOME-Software is internally really unhappy about an application changing its state from installed to available without going through the required uninstallation step
[21:16] <seb128> robert_ancell, cool, that might be needed
[21:16] <robert_ancell> ximion, is there a bug open somewhere?
[21:18] <Laney> Dell people want fwupd by the way ;-)
[21:18] <robert_ancell> Everyone wants fwupd
[21:18] <Laney> people with £££ are more equal than others :P
[21:18] <ximion> robert_ancell: on Debian, yes: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804094
[21:18] <ubot5`> Debian bug 804094 in gnome-software "gnome-software: Fails to remove applications" [Normal,Open]
[21:19] <seb128> yeah, I'm rjust ready to bet that the review is not going to be done by ff
[21:19] <seb128> and would rather not block the landing on it
[21:19] <seb128> we can have a ffe
[21:20] <Laney> makes sense
[21:21] <ximion> robert_ancell: are you planning on shipping Xenial with g-s 3.20? We have a lot of changes in there which you definitely want in the LTS, and maybe hughsie can be convinced to not depend on the ost recent GTK+...
[21:22] <robert_ancell> ximion, currently just looking at 3.18 + backporting what is necessary
[21:22] <robert_ancell> but I guess we'd be open to 3.20 if there's no side effects
[21:23] <Laney> it still requires gtk 3.18 only
[21:23] <Laney> Files to download: 257695 MiB
[21:23] <Laney> debmirror is go!
[21:23] <robert_ancell> \o/
[21:23] <Laney> also http://appstream.ubuntu.com/
[21:23] <Laney> cool page right
[21:24] <robert_ancell> Laney, a work of art
[21:24] <attente> nice
[21:25] <seb128> Laney, I wouldn't bet on that to stay
[21:25] <pitti> shiny!
[21:25] <seb128> but I guess the gtk 3.20 requirement could be reverted
[21:25] <seb128> if they bump it
[21:26] <seb128> which most GNOME is doing because of the css work...
[21:26] <pitti> really, that logo looks so crowbared in -- is that really our default apache?
[21:26] <Laney> someone could just talk to him...
[21:26] <ximion> robert_ancell: I fixed a lot of fwupd and Limba related crashes in 3.20, if you use 3.18 I should probably backport them to that version
[21:26] <Laney> pitti: yeah, horrible right
[21:27] <ximion> robert_ancell: if someone's working on Snappy support, 3.20 would be almost essential - hughsie added a lot of convenient stuff for 3rd-party package installers to g-s
[21:27] <seb128> ximion, do you know if 3.20 is likely to pick a depends on gtk 3.20 during the cycle or is it going to work on GNOME/GTK 3.18?
[21:28]  * ximion asks hughsie
[21:29] <seb128> I guess it might be easier to take 3.20 and revert the gtk changes if there is any, rather than backporting all what we need to 3.18
[21:29] <seb128> well depending if they pick newer depends on other parts of the stack we don't have...
[21:31] <robert_ancell> 3.20 will make my patches easier to propose upstream
[21:31] <Laney> robert_ancell is already working with hughsie, so could mention that we might want to do this
[21:32] <Laney> when thinking about bumping deps
[21:32] <Laney> maybe :)
[21:33] <robert_ancell> ximion, is Debian going to have the new appstream required for g-s 3.20?
[21:35] <ximion> robert_ancell: yes, I will add it when I'm back from Brussels
[21:35] <robert_ancell> ximion, ok, cool
[21:37] <ximion> hughsie just merged a patch we definitely want for g-s ;-) - and the current Git master also contains some important fixes
[21:37] <ximion> (like one preventing it to load any data at all, in some situations)
[21:37] <ximion> so we'll definitely have an even newer version soon (or the patches backported in Debian too)
[21:39] <robert_ancell> ximion, so looking I think the only reason I went with 3.18 is it was released and appstream wasn't new enough to work with it. The changes look fine for us to use in Xenial.
[21:44] <Laney> |o/
[21:44] <Laney> \o|
[21:51] <ximion> robert_ancell: awesome! No reply from Richard on the GTK+ dependency of g-s yet, but there just was a commit a few hours ago making g-s work well with GTK+3.18
[21:51] <ximion> so there's a good chance :)
[21:52] <robert_ancell> ximion, I don't think there's much he'd change this close to release
[21:56] <ximion> right
[22:06] <willcooke> right, calling it a night.  Thanks to everyone working late
[22:06] <pitti> bonne nuit tout le monde !
[22:07] <seb128> night
[22:07] <willcooke> au revoir


[05:30] <warewolf> wow
[05:30] <warewolf> er
[06:19] <rocky_IITM> Hi all...Can anyone let know what is the maximum memory that can be allocated for a kernel module in x86_64????
[06:45] <rocky_IITM> What is the maximum memory that can be allocated to a kernel module in x86_64 bit system??
[06:45] <lifeless> -1 I presume
[06:46] <rocky_IITM> I didnot get  -1??
[06:47] <RAOF> Is there any reason to expect that a kernel module should be limited in the amount of memory it can allocate on an x86_64 system?
[06:48] <ikepanhc> I did not aware of any limitation for single module, but I know there are limits for kmalloc
[06:49] <ikepanhc> IIRC for x86 it is 128k, if you need memory more then 128k
[06:49] <ikepanhc> you need to use get_free_page
[06:50] <rocky_IITM> I need to allocate static memory... need to create queues of total size 2 GB...but memory allocation failing...
[06:50] <ikepanhc> what kernel API you use?
[06:52] <rocky_IITM> I m using rvmalloc().
[06:53] <ikepanhc> for 2G buffer, you need to use get_free_pages() and manage them.
[06:53] <ikepanhc> its almost impossible to ask kernel to arrange 2G not-fragment-dram for you
[06:54] <rocky_IITM> ok i will try that...
[06:55] <rocky_IITM> I was able to do for 1 GB... after that it was failing..
[06:56] <lifeless> the idea of 2GB in-kernel terrifies me.
[06:56] <lifeless> Just saying.
[06:57] <rocky_IITM> yah its true... actually trying to write a kernel module for high speed packet processing..
[06:57] <rocky_IITM> lots of processing required in kernel and need to buffer the packets...
[07:00] <RAOF> That's a seriously huge buffer!  Is processing so slow?
[07:02] <rocky_IITM> yah but traffic rate is also high... 5gbps..
[07:02] <lifeless> that doesn't mean you have to be inkernel
[07:02] <lifeless> you just have to pass out sensible regions to userspace - lots of work on efficient userspace drivers/processing has been done
[07:04] <rocky_IITM> yah I am trying to do that also... but getting drop in the card level... userspace copying also is a bottleneck
[07:05] <rocky_IITM> I am getting drop in nw driver level..
[07:05] <ikepanhc> IIRC the bottom neck for 5gbps data flow is not usually on content switch, its usually on processor frequency
[07:06] <lifeless> rocky_IITM: hand out entire pages, no copying involved surely.
[07:08] <rocky_IITM> yah true... what we are trying is to create a multi-threaded driver and process it in different cores...
[07:08] <lifeless> you will make things a lot more robust if you're only privileged when you *need to be*.
[07:24] <rocky_IITM> Is there any maximum limit to vmalloc_32()??
[07:28] <rocky_IITM> lifeless: Is there any maximum limit to vmalloc_32()??
[07:30] <RAOF> rocky_IITM: I don't know, but haven't you already been pointed at get_free_page?
[07:30] <RAOF> And isn't asking for 2GB of contiguous memory asking for your code to fail in all but the most controlled of situations?
[07:33] <rocky_IITM> hmm ic... but my system is having 64 GB of RAM... so why its not possible to do contiguous memory allocation??
[07:35] <lifeless> fragmentation
[07:35] <lifeless> only takes 33 widely separated pages and you can't do any single 2G allocation
[07:40] <rocky_IITM> see ours is not a single allocation... we are trying to create queue... each node is of 16KB and the total size of the queue is 2GB
[07:42] <lifeless> then why are you asking if there is a limit to the allocation facility of a single call?
[07:43] <rocky_IITM> lifeless: see when we are crossing 1 GB the allocation is failing...and we are not quite sure where is the problem
[07:45] <RAOF> So, after you've allocated 134217728 separate 16KB memory blocks it then starts to fail?
[07:47] <rocky_IITM> when I have allocated 16KB * 65536 nodes then further allocation fails
[07:49] <rocky_IITM> RAOF: when I allocate 65536 seperate 16KB blocks then it starts to fail
[08:10] <TeTeT> smb: sorry, but I could not test the gobi loader patch last week - the hardware was already sent back
[08:11] <smb> TeTeT, Well, as long as there is no testing the changes will be simply on hold.
[08:11] <TeTeT> smb: understood
[08:45]  * apw yawns
[08:46]  * smb lazily waves
[08:47] <cooloney> apw and smb morning
[08:49] <apw> hiya  cooloney
[08:53]  * smb moans. Ok, children in the kindergarten sing songs, but why does that need amplifying?
[08:54] <amitk> smb: you're running a kindergarten at home?
[08:54] <smb> amitk, No, there is just one close by. And today they seemed to have "escaped"
[08:55] <amitk> open windows, nice weather and all that, then
[08:55] <smb> yup
[09:04] <kraut> moin
[09:04] <smb> moin
[10:09] <salvarane> hello
[10:11] <salvarane> I compiled a kernel 2.6.29 patched rtai for lucid but when I reboot the mouse and keybourd not work
[10:17] <salvarane> hello
 I compiled a kernel 2.6.29 patched rtai for lucid but when I reboot the mouse and keybourd not work
[10:45] <apw> salvarane, what is rtai
 realtime for linux + emc2 cnc control
[11:52] <apw> salvarane, where did you get the kernel configuration you used to build it?
 /boot/config-2.6.32-23-generic-pae ; make oldconfig
[12:02] <apw> salvarane, you might try the config from a version of ubuntu before 2.6.29, jaunty for example ... as the config may have changed between versions of the upstream kernel
[12:02] <apw> salvarane, you might also want to try a 2.6.29 kernel from the mainline builds, and see if the keyboard works there
 thanks , how can I download in synaptics a kernel 2.6.29 ?
[12:21] <salvarane> for ubuntu
[12:21] <salvarane> in this manner I copy config file for my kernel rtai
[12:22] <salvarane> if all function's very well
[12:52] <ddd_> anyone knows : /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /lib/libc.so.6 when searching for /lib/libc.so.6 ,  how to fix?
[12:58]  * abogani waves
[12:59] <abogani> apw, May i disturb you for a minute? :-)
[13:25] <lag> Question:
[13:25] <lag> I am trying to populate the platform_driver struct
[13:25] <lag> i.e.
[13:25] <lag> .probe
[13:25] <lag> .release
[13:26] <lag> I am doing so from arch code
[13:26] <lag> How do I 'see' the module's symbol?
[13:26] <lag> I've tried to EXPORT_SYMBOL it and in the arch prototype I have declared it as an extern
[13:27] <lag> Ideas on a postcard
[14:38] <tseliot> apw: does Maverick's kernel have a known I/O eating CPU issue?
[14:38] <ogra> shoudl we add one if there isnt one ? :)
[14:39] <tseliot> heh
[14:39] <tseliot> my icore 7 feels like an old 386 when extracting packages, etc.
[14:44] <tjaalton> that's a dpkg issue
[14:44] <tjaalton> aiui
[14:44] <tjaalton> it's syncing the disk all the time
[14:46] <tjaalton> i'm more fed up with the gnome-help taking 45 seconds to start..
[14:46] <tjaalton> and that's not a kernel problem, so I'll leave it there ;)
[14:46] <tjaalton> or, I don't think it is..
[14:47] <tseliot> tjaalton: ah, I know who I can bug about dpkg :-D thanks
[14:48] <tjaalton> it was a deliberate decision iirc..
[14:50] <ogra> i think it only happens with ext4
[14:50] <tjaalton> yeah
[14:50] <ogra> and is an issue with fsync calls
[14:51] <tseliot> do you know what's the relevant bug report?
[14:51] <ogra> must be in the lucid release notes somewhere
[14:51] <tjaalton> probably
[14:52] <tseliot> I've never had this problem in lucid with ext4
[14:52] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Performance regressions with ext4 under certain workloads
[14:53] <ogra> bug 570805 it seems
[14:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 570805 in dpkg (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "[regression] dpkg's fsync causes massive regression in Ubuntu Server and Alternate installation times (affects: 16) (dups: 1) (heat: 125)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570805
[14:53] <ogra> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15910
[14:54] <ubot2> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 15910 in ext4 "zero-length files and performance degradation" [Normal,New]
[14:54] <tjaalton> whee, seems like a fix is coming
[14:54] <tseliot> maybe I/O is worse in maverick and this is why I'm noticing the problem now
[15:25] <kaushal> hi
[15:34] <apw> hi
[15:48] <kaushal> apw, hi
[15:49] <kaushal> Please guide me about my post on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-July/004402.html
[15:49] <apw> hi
[15:50] <apw> kaushal, did you try the preseed change recommended in the email you are replying to there?
[15:50] <kaushal> apw, I am using ks.cfg kickstart file
[15:51] <apw> kaushal, and did you try the > d-i base-installer/kernel/override-image string linux-server
[15:52] <kaushal> apw, as i said i dont use the preseed method at all
[15:52] <kaushal> I use kickstart method
[15:53] <apw> hrm, you have already left my area of expertise :/ ... you probabally need to ask if that file can change the kernel, i would ask on #ubuntu-devel, the installer folk mostly hang out there
[15:53] <kaushal> ah ok
[15:53] <kaushal> Thanks apw
[15:53] <apw> np
[15:55] <kaushal> apw, is there a mailing list for ubuntu-devel ?
[15:56] <apw> i think if you are emailing them there is an ubuntu-installer list
[15:56] <apw> i would ask on #ubuntu-devel first
[15:57] <apw> kaushal, you give very few hints as to what your problem is from your irc request, which makes it hard for the right person to know what you need
[16:05] <apw> kaushal, looks like you got your answer on #ubuntu-devel ...
[16:05] <kaushal> apw, sure
[17:10] <tseliot> it turns out that my partition was busted. No I/O issues with the kernel
[17:46] <apw> tseliot, thats good news
[17:47]  * tseliot nods


[08:46] <Odo> :*
[18:16] <itnet7> Greetings
[18:17] <itnet7> Does anyone have the time to help me get the irc-cloak setup? https://launchpad.net/~itnet7
[18:18] <pleia2> itnet7: first follow the steps here: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[18:18] <pleia2> (associate an email address, link an alternate nick)
[18:19] <pleia2> once that's done, wait for a freenode staff member to become active here and they'll hook you up
[18:19]  * pleia2 nudges Pricey and nalioth
[18:21] <Pici> itnet7: Congrats on membership :)
[18:22] <itnet7> Thanks Pici
[18:22] <itnet7> pleia2 sorry I didn't notice it didn't authenticate me earlier
[18:22] <itnet7> this is my master nick
[18:22] <itnet7> I will leave and come right back
[18:23] <itnet7> right now I have an unafilliated cloak
[18:23] <pleia2> itnet7: did you set an alternate nick?
[18:24] <itnet7> oh... maybe not :-) let me run through that portion thanks!
[18:40] <itnet7> okay sorry had to work a bit ;-)
[18:40] <itnet7> pleia2: the alternate nick is setup now :-)
[18:41] <pleia2> great :) nalioth or Pricey can hook you up with your host once they drop by
[18:42] <Pici> They already did
[18:43] <Pici> pleia2: Thanks for getting him setup :)
[18:43] <pleia2> oh good :)
[18:53] <itnet7> Thanks guys!!
[18:54] <itnet7> and gals!
[19:06] <Mean-Machine> hello. Is it normal to have 3 locobots for IRC logs in 1 channel? It makes reading the logs very painful
[19:10] <nicolas> which channel ?
[19:11] <Mean-Machine> nicolas, #ubuntu-ie
[19:12] <nicolas> i highlight concerned person
[19:12] <Mean-Machine> cheers
[19:32] <nicolas> Mean-Machine, should be ok now no ?
[19:33] <Mean-Machine> nicolas, looks good! thanks
[19:55] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-ie, Mean-Machine said: !gbj is GlobalBugJam - for more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam
[20:13] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-ie, ebel said: !bugjam is <alias> gbj
[20:14] <nicolas> very interressing ubot2 :p
[20:14] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-ie, ebel said: !globalbugjam is <alias> gbj
[20:15] <Mean-Machine> nicolas, doesn't it need to be approved by someone?
[20:15] <Myrtti> ubot2: !gbj
[20:15] <ubot2> Factoid 'gbj' not found
[20:15] <nicolas> Mean-Machine, what you mean ?
[20:15] <Myrtti> ubot2: gbj
[20:15] <Myrtti> Mean-Machine: yup
[20:16] <Mean-Machine> Myrtti, thought so