[09:40] <dopie> hello all
[09:40] <cfhowlett> dopie, greetings
[09:40] <dopie> ok have a quick chmod 0666 question here
[09:40] <dopie> I get this error
[09:40] <dopie> Rails Error: Unable to access log file. Please ensure that /var/www/helloworld/releases/20130701092456/log/production.log exists and is chmod 0666. The log level has been raised to WARN and the output directed to STDERR until the problem is fixed.
[09:40] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, This is a lkink I hadnt seen before. I'll try it.
[09:40] <dopie> than i do
[09:41] <dopie> chmod 0666 /var/www/helloworld/releases/
[09:41] <dopie> now i cant even get inside releases
[09:41] <ikonia> dopie: you can
[09:41] <ikonia> dopie: why are you changing the directory permissions, it's a file permission
[09:41] <dopie> oh
[09:41] <ikonia> dopie: you need execute to be able to list the directory permissions
[09:42] <varunendra> dopie, a directory has to have the x bit to enable file listing.
[09:42] <dopie>  cd: releases/: Permission denied
[09:42] <ikonia> dopie: look at the error /var/www/helloworld/releases/20130701092456/log/production.log
[09:42] <ikonia> dopie: please do "ls -la /var/www/helloworld" and put the output in a pastebin please.
[09:43] <dopie> http://paste.pm/82n.js
[09:43] <dopie> thats what it says
[09:43] <KrizOne> hi guys, im using 12.04 LTS and i need to setup with the usual apache mysql php stuff, is it better to do using the LAMP stack or is it better to install each package manually?
[09:43] <ikonia> dopie: ok, now please do "id" and show me the output in the channel
[09:44] <dopie> uid=1000(deployer) gid=1000(deployer) groups=1000(deployer),27(sudo)
[09:44] <cfhowlett> KrizOne, can't see as how it'd make much difference.  either way, dependencies must be satisfied, etc. etc.
[09:44] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so chmod -R 0766 /var/www/hellowworld/releases
[09:45] <dopie> ok
[09:45] <dopie> did that
[09:45] <KrizOne> cfhowlett, i was imagining it similar to a cpanel setup, it works great until something goes wrong and then you have no idea how its working :P
[09:45] <vlt> KrizOne: I didn’t know there’s a LAMP pkg, is there?
[09:45] <dopie> im in the releases now
[09:45] <cfhowlett> KrizOne, that's why god invented logs ...
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> KrizOne: I'd use the taskel method. It is tried and tested
[09:45] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so now your directory permisions should be fixed, now you need to fix the log file
[09:45] <KrizOne> ok thanks :)
[09:45] <ikonia> dopie: the error complains about the log file permissions, so fix the logfile permissions, not the random directory above it
[09:45] <dopie> k
[09:46] <ikonia> dopie: it's important going forward, that you read the error properly,
[09:46] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  Well, the GUI method works for now, but I am still having the fstab issue.
[09:47] <llutz_> Daughain: have you added the newline at the end of fstab?
[09:47] <sanav> when i use win8 (preinstall OS) on my ultarbook (Dell 15 z 5523) its battery backup around 6 hours (without internet) .But when i install ubuntu , it gave me hardly 1 hour 25 minutes (without internet ) .My system specifications is http://www.lapspecs.com/detail/dell+inspiron+15z+ultrabook+-+5523 .Help me out ! please
[09:47] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Carriage return, yes.
[09:47] <Daughain> Two actually.
[09:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> quickie question, I want to replace all occurances of /home/ntzrmtthihu777 with $HOME to conserve space in my .bashrc, but I think sed 's:/home/ntzrmmtthihu777:$HOME:g' will insert the contents of $HOME , changing nothing, instead of the literal string $HOME. what should I do?
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: did you do dpkg-reconfigure davfs2? and change the /etc/davfs2/davfs2.conf file to disable locks?
[09:48] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Yep.
[09:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> ignore sed question, a quick test fixed me :P
[09:49] <llutz_> ntzrmtthihu777: it shouldn't expand $HOME if you use single-quotes
[09:49] <Daughain> Though, theres a chmod in this guide I dont remember doing.......But that relates to the /secrets file
[09:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz_: yeah, I just did a dry run, it worked fine :P
[09:50] <Daughain> I still have my L/P commented out as well.
[09:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I have no idea why this is not working. I followed that guide to the tee, stopping short of the secrets file, and it worked no issue at all :/
[09:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> also I did not try the nautilus thing, as xubuntu does not have it, lol.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: ask in #bash too. I believe you need to escape the dollar character. Unless you have a LOT of instances of the text you are saving very little space
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: however, you will be able to use the same bashrc file in multiple users as the $HOME will expand correctly
[09:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: quite a lot, actually XD. the rvm setup I use has quite alot of rubies and gemsets, and each one comes with /home/ntzrmtthihu777/ XD
[09:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: and I don't intend to have anyone else use this pc, so that is moot :P
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: oh well
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: the guys in #bash may be able to advise too, my bashfu is only yellow belt
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: and, as I stated, ignore the sed question, I did a dry run and it worked fine with single quotes "''" :P
[09:54] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, If I add a line to fstab, and comment it out, it should still be read as there, just not actionable, correct?
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: honestly I think commented lines in /etc/fstab are ignored completely.
[09:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> as with commented lines in almost all programming/scripting languages :P
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: comments will be ignored.
[09:55] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  :P I fix semis, not code computers.
[09:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, fair enough. I code and kill bedbugs XD
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Daughain, I think you meant to say "Dammit, I'm a mechanic not a coder!"
[09:56] <gordonjcp> Daughain: commented lines are just plain ignored
[09:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD sounds about right :P
[09:56] <Daughain> But, the newline/carriage return should be noted...??
[09:57] <Daughain> cfhowlett, lol.
[09:57] <llutz> Daughain: the file has to end with a newline, so not with "#<nonewlinefollowing>"
[09:58] <dfrank> hi. I mistakenly upgraded apache2.2 to apache2.4, now I'm trying to get things back. But now apache fails to read configs, and I can't even delete it: apt-get tries to stop apache, got errors, just said "Errors were encountered while procssing: apache2", and does nothing useful. How to do that?
[09:58] <Daughain> Trying to figure out why I am still getting a 'no final newline' error. I added the commented line to add another newline.
[09:58] <dfrank> more, I have some troubles with locale =(  here's output of 'apt-get remove apache2' http://pastebin.com/ncAHjWG5
[09:58] <ikonia> dfrank: how did you do it by accident
[09:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: try 2 blank lines at the end :P
[09:58] <llutz> Daughain: what is so hard to understand with "just add a newline"?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: go to the end of the last line and hit ENTER
[09:59] <Daughain> No nshit I keep doing that!!!!!
[09:59] <llutz> Daughain: you don't need # (comment-signs), any empty line in fstab will be ignored
[09:59] <ikonia> Daughain: control the language please.
[09:59] <Daughain> Sorry, getting a bit frustrated is all. I've added 7 newlines already.
[09:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: what text editor are you using?
[09:59] <Daughain> Gedit as su
[10:00] <ikonia> as "su"....
[10:00] <ikonia> please.
[10:00] <Daughain> Root
[10:00] <llutz> Daughain: pastebin your fstab-file pls
[10:00] <dfrank> ikonia: well, I tried to install pecl_http and following instructions from there http://www.php.net/http.install.php
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz: he has done so, it looks to be all in order :/
[10:00] <dfrank> my bad
[10:00] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: the last one was still missing the newline at the end
[10:00] <ikonia> dfrank: there is nothing in there that will upgrade apache
[10:01] <dfrank> ikonia: well, I really not sure why
[10:01] <ikonia> dfrank: what version of ubuntu are you running
[10:01] <ikonia> !info apache2
[10:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, this makes me happy. finally got redcar running :P
[10:02] <Daughain> http://pastebin.com/NcGf7kTY
[10:03] <dfrank> ikonia: and, actually, I use debian. I'm sorry for not saying it in my first post.  I just hoped that ubuntu people might help for debian too. I asked on #debian too of course, but no one replied, and I need to solve this as fast as possible.
[10:03] <llutz> Daughain: are you joking?
[10:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: don't get upset, but this paste shows no blank line at the end of the file.
[10:03] <ikonia> dfrank: ok, please don't bring debian support questions in here
[10:03] <llutz> Daughain: there is no newline at all following the https:/..... line
[10:03] <dfrank> ikonia: ok, I will not. sorry
[10:04] <ikonia> dfrank: not a problem, thank you
[10:04] <Daughain> lets try a new paste then. I tend not to copy blank lines.
[10:04] <FfoO> Good day to every one.
[10:05] <Daughain> http://pastebin.com/5TDZhbuw
[10:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: should use pastebinit :P in a terminal run pastebinit /etc/fstab and it works wonderously :P
[10:06] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Thanks for the tip. I'm still a greasemonkey, not a codemonkey.
[10:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: np, I'm only barely a codemonkey, more emphasis on the monkey :P
[10:07] <Daughain> lol
[10:07] <Daughain> At least you go home clean.
[10:08] <Daughain> So, does that paste show newlines?
[10:08] <FfoO> I need help: I have two ubuntu based OS and I would like to switch management of boot to the second one. Should I just command to install GRUB on the second one?
[10:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: it seems not :/
[10:09] <FfoO> There is no partition for only GRUB, by the way.
[10:09] <Daughain> Ok, lety me try editing it in nano
[10:10] <ikonia> FfoO: which OS's are they
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz: to be honest I see no newline in my pastebinned fstab :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816368/ but as I've stated, mine worked 100% out of box :P
[10:11] <dopie> lrwxrwxrwx 1 deployer deployer   43 Jul  1 09:51 current -> /var/www/helloworld/releases/20130701094544
[10:11] <dopie> what does that mean?
[10:11] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, forgot to mention pastebinit needs to be installed. :P
[10:11] <ikonia> dfrank: you've created a symlink
[10:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> dopie: it means its owned by deployer, group deployer, with permissions 777 :P
[10:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: oh wow, thought that was default XD
[10:12] <FfoO> ikonia: ubuntu 12.04 LTS managing boot, 12.10 Studio.
[10:12] <dfrank> ikonia: which symlink did I created?
[10:12] <Daughain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816372/
[10:12] <Daughain> After using nano to add two newlines
[10:12] <ikonia> dfrank: sorry, that was for dopie
[10:12] <ikonia> dopie: it means you've created a symlink
[10:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. not to demean you, but are you 100% certain that there are no typos in the davfs line?
[10:13] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Its cool, and thanks for letting me know about it.
[10:13] <dopie> because im running nginx
[10:13] <dopie> and it just messed up
[10:13] <ikonia> FfoO: basically you change the default entry in your grub config in /etc/grub.d or /etc/grub and run update-grub to rebuild your grub config
[10:13] <Daughain> SO, do newlines show up in that paste?
[10:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: nope, but I'll take your word for it as my paste shows no newline either but it works 100%
[10:15] <Daughain> And, still getting that error/.
[10:17] <Daughain> Does it make a difference if I add the needed line in mtab?
[10:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: mtab seems to not come into this equation at all. I never touched mine
[10:18] <narcos> Any protips on speaking USSD to a 3G modem? e.g. *#101#
[10:18] <FfoO> I already did that; but I would like to switch management so I would have to do this often every time they update. Nevertheless, I was thinking of leaving GRUB to LTS Server anyway, he is the server, he deserves =b . Thank you so much, ikonia.
[10:18] <Daughain> brb, gonna reboot.
[10:19] <dazzle> I have 3 x 2TB. What should I do - raid1 + spare or raid5?
[10:20] <ikonia> dazzle: depends on your needs
[10:20] <dazzle> ikonia: Very long term storage, not much reading/writing
[10:21] <ikonia> dazzle: that's not really clear, though as the differences you've just given are 2TB mirrored + space, or 4 TB striped with a parity disk
[10:21] <dopie> -rw-rw-r--  1 deployer deployer  160 Jul  1 08:22 config.ru
[10:21] <dopie> do need anymore settings
[10:21] <dopie> for this file
[10:21] <dopie> ?
[10:21] <FloodBot1> dopie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <ikonia> dopie: it depends on what you need
[10:21] <ikonia> dopie: I suggest talking to the person who wrote the guide you are using
[10:22] <wzj> hi
[10:22] <wzj> hello geekers
[10:22] <dazzle> ikonia: So basically neither is notably better than the other?
[10:22] <ikonia> dazzle: no, they are different, you pick the one that meets your needs best
[10:23] <wzj> ok, i'm the air
[10:23] <FfoO> Does anyone know how to save a text file with a hidden connection (ESSID) info so I wouldn't need to type on terminal every time I log in?
[10:23] <ikonia> wzj: what ?
[10:23] <dazzle> ikonia: Where would raid5 be better? As I see it, both give about 4 TB of space.
[10:23] <DJones> wzj: Do you have an Ubuntu support question, please remember this channel isn't for general chat, it deals with support issues
[10:23] <ikonia> dazzle: no they don't
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !topic|wzj, methinks you just might be in the wrong channel ...
[10:23] <ikonia> dazzle: raid 1 will give 2TB of disk space
[10:24] <wzj> just poor english. ....
[10:24] <dazzle> ikonia: Argh, you are correct, I misunderstood >.<
[10:24] <FfoO> wzj, what's your mother language?
[10:24] <lunix_> hello. im trying to install ubuntu from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD. I'm installing 12.04, but when i get to set Download Installer Components, installing freezes. The ethernet leds blink some seconds and then stop.
[10:25] <wzj> chinese
[10:25] <FfoO> cool
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !cn|wzj,
[10:25] <wzj> thanks
[10:26] <sirmio> Hello room
[10:26] <lunix_> I checked the md5sum. i tried the cd and iso file on virtualbox, the cd also on 2 machines.
[10:26] <cfhowlett> sirmio, greetings
[10:26] <dopie> Please ensure that Nginx has permissions to access /home/test/test.
[10:26] <Daughain> WEll, that didnt help anything.
[10:26] <dopie> is what i get
[10:26] <dopie> when i search for it
[10:26] <dopie> but isnt r-w permission enough?
[10:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: this is really starting to irk me :/
[10:26] <dopie> how do i give that file full permissions?
[10:26] <ikonia> dopie: right, so you need to make sure the user running nginx can access that directory
[10:27] <dopie> correct
[10:27] <dopie> which is deployer
[10:27] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I spent an hour on my own before I stopped in here/
[10:27] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so what user is running the nginx process ?
[10:27] <dopie> deployer is running
[10:27] <dopie> -rw-rw-r--  1 deployer deployer  160 Jul  1 08:22 config.ru
[10:27] <dopie> and thats the info on him
[10:27] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so deployer can read and write to that file
[10:27] <dopie> yes
[10:27] <ikonia> dopie: so if ngnix can then read and write to that file
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I fail to see why this is not working. perhaps I set something up when setting up my samba mounts that you are missing....
[10:28] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I even relocated the entire line, and still getting the same error.
[10:28] <foubarre> Hello. Is there a way to reverse the order of boot options generated by update-grub?
[10:28] <foubarre> or force them beforehand?
[10:28] <ikonia> foubarre: why does the order matter ?
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I'ma chheck something, so gimme a sec k?
[10:29] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  No worries, take all the time you need.
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: I believe he wants to switch primary os's :P
[10:29] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: so the order doesn't matter than, just selecting the default is all that's needed
[10:29] <dopie> ikonia,  yes it can so i dont know the 2nd part?
[10:30] <ikonia> dopie: what second part ?
[10:30] <dopie> not sure
[10:30] <dopie> thought you were going to say something else
[10:30] <foubarre> ikonia: i'm using the GRUB_DEFAULT=save option, so that i can do a grub-reboot that works. I would need the last boot option to be the default one and it is the first one currently. Result of that is that it boots on wrong partition by default.
[10:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: run the command "groups" and give me the result here. should only be a line
[10:31] <Daughain> daughain adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare davfs2
[10:31] <ikonia> foubarre: sorry, I don't understand why the display order is a factor here
[10:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> wow, strange. I don't even have davfs2 on mine.
[10:31] <sirmio> Let me ask. How can i install aclocal-1.13 on my Ubuntu ? because when a entry:
[10:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: aesthetics :P
[10:32] <sirmio> $]aclocal --version
[10:32] <sirmio> output :
[10:32] <sirmio> aclocal (GNU automake) 1.11.3
[10:32] <sirmio> Anyone for help ?
[10:32] <ikonia> sirmio: that's not a question
[10:32] <ikonia> sirmio: that's just stating your version
[10:32] <BuzUVT> :)
[10:32] <foubarre> ikonia: grub-reboot works if GRUB_DEFAULT=save is set and the result of such an option is that grub autoselects the last boot entry.
[10:32] <quitter> hello,everyone
[10:33] <cfhowlett> quitter, greetings
[10:33] <frank> who is Kenya on this chat room need some help
[10:33] <ikonia> foubarre: the last as in "last used" not last in the menu
[10:33] <sirmio> How i can stating my aclocal version ?
[10:33] <ikonia> sirmio: you just did
[10:34] <quitter> trying to sweet talk my gf into running ubuntu
[10:34] <foubarre> ikonia: hm. that's not the behavior i saw. Testing some more.. thanks.. brb
[10:34] <sirmio> ikonia: what is the command ?
[10:34] <ikonia> sirmio: you've just pasted it into the channel !
[10:35] <sirmio> (cd automake-1.13 && make && make install ?)
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: no
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: aclocal --version
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: you just typed it into thc channel, it showed your version
[10:35] <ikonia> 11:32 < sirmio> aclocal (GNU automake) 1.11.3
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: you are using aclocal 1.11.3
[10:35] <cfhowlett> quitter, why talk.  install virtualbox to windows, put ubuntu in virtualbox or boot a live usb and him/her/it play with ubuntu
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> quitter  start here http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings
[10:36] <sirmio> But i want the version 1.13
[10:36] <ikonia> quitter: why not let her run what she wants to run, it's her machine and her choice
[10:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I'm at a loss :/
[10:36] <ikonia> rather than trying to talk her into something you want her to do
[10:36] <lunix_> hello. im trying to install ubuntu from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD. I'm installing 12.04 x86, but when i get to step Download Installer Components, installing freezes. The ethernet leds blink some seconds and then stop. I checked md5sum and tried the iso on virtualbox and the burned cd on virtualbox, on this machine boot, and on another machine.
[10:36] <foubarre> ikonia: still boots last entry, while i previously manually selected the first one. Should manually selecting the first boot entry save it?
[10:37] <ikonia> foubarre: sounds very odd behaviour
[10:37] <foubarre> ikonia: true..
[10:37] <ikonia> foubarre: try it
[10:37] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, So am I, so nothing new there.Half tempted to rewrite my fstab, and save the old one under a new name
[10:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: just used the ~/.davfs2/secrets option, also works fine.
[10:38] <wzj> girl
[10:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> channel: I'm a member of netdev, but Daughain is not, would this make a difference?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !topic|wzj,
[10:39] <wzj> sorry
[10:39] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I cant even get that far. My problem seems to be in my fstab.
[10:40] <mat619> Hi there. Recently I installed 12.04 on an ancient Pentium II laptop, a Fujitsu LifeBook C345 - for use as a text only system. When I issue a poweroff command or "shutdown -h now" it seems to end all tasks, etc., and stops at "System halted", without actually powering off. Any ideas why?
[10:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: which is what puzzles me. aside from the obvious needed differences between mine and yours they are the same :/
[10:40] <mat619> Arch Linux and SuSE 9.0, which were running on that brick before, didn't have that issue, for some reason
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> mat619: are there any bugs reported?
[10:41] <mat619> ActionParsnip: for this old hardware? none of which I'd know
[10:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: add yourself to the netdev group, running mount on my box with .box.com mounted gives me this bit of info: https://www.box.com/dav on /home/ntzrmtthihu777/.box.com type davfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,nodev,_netdev,user=ntzrmtthihu777)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mat619: for the OS on that hardware, etc
[10:45] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, netdev?
[10:46] <mat619> ActionParsnip: no, not a single one for LifeBook Cxxx devices and only one regarding a HP micro server which didn't powerdown with "poweroff", but did with "shutdown -h now". My dinosaur does neither
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> mat619: try adding the boot options: acpi=off apm=on
[10:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: try this: "sudo addgroup netdev daughain"
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> mat619: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223185/system-shutdown-stopped-working
[10:47] <Daughain> "user netdev does not exist"
[10:47] <theadmin> Daughain: Don't do that, it's not of any use
[10:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> hm. perhaps I had that backwards :P
[10:47] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: You're looking for "adduser", not "addgroup"
[10:48] <foubarre> ikonia: GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT was missing in the grub config file. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of an incorrect behavior.
[10:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: its the only difference I can see between his non functioning and my functioning box.com fstab entry
[10:48] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: adduser daughain netdev
[10:48] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Oh. Huh.
[10:48] <sirmio> Thank you for you attention. I have solved my probleme. I can use aclocal-1.13 on ubuntu 11 by installing automake-1.13(by ftp://...1.13.tar.gz) and adjusting PATH variable environnement.
[10:48] <Daughain> theadmin: My problem is in my Fstab file not reading an eol
[10:48] <sirmio> Have a  good day :)
[10:49] <theadmin> Daughain: Can I of seeings the fstab (the whole file)?
[10:49] <mat619> ActionParsnip: does not apply to my problem, unfortunately. 1), wrong OS version, and 2) different outcome. mine stops at "System halted", not "Power down"
[10:49] <theadmin> mat619: What's your problem? Not being able to shutdown properly?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> mat619: worth a try
[10:49] <Daughain> theadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816438/
[10:50] <theadmin> mat619: That's normally a fairly easy fix, add reboot=bios to your GRUB kernel command line (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mat619: just apply it to boot the one time, if it works then modify grub so it is a long term fix
[10:50] <mat619> ActionParsnip: that's true. will try to disable the NICs before shutting down
[10:50] <ikonia> theadmin: thats a nice trick, is that grub2 only ?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mat619: strange you are so dismissive when its easy to test and is free....
[10:51] <theadmin> ikonia: Nah, it's in the Linux kernel, has a few differet ways of trigerring reboots
[10:51] <mat619> ActionParsnip: I'm not dismissive, I just doubt that my issue is exactly the same as posted in that bug report
[10:51] <theadmin> ikonia: Normally relies on ACPI but can call to BIOS too which *sometimes* works better
[10:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: and my working setup  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816442/
[10:51] <mat619> ActionParsnip: as I said I'll give it a try
[10:51] <ikonia> theadmin: ahhh, it's the kernel boot parameter "reboot" not a grub option
[10:52] <mat619> theadmin: I will try that as well, good hint
[10:52] <mat619> thank you both for your input
[10:52] <ikonia> theadmin: I thought you where saying there is a grub option - which I thought was very cool
[10:52] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777, Daughain: Think I see the problem :P The lines in fstab are processed in the order they are met, doing stuff before something as critical as /proc is mounted may be a bad idea. Daughain move the line to the end of the file.
[10:53] <mat619> theadmin: and regarding your question (didn't see it first), yes, my FSC Lifebook dinosaur doesn't actually power off, it just stops at "System halted"
[10:53] <Daughain> theadmin, When it was at the end of the file, it had the same error. No matter what I do, I get the same error:
[10:53] <Daughain> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:53] <Daughain> mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:54] <mat619> theadmin: which is double annoying since the power button on that model puts it to sleep, regardless of the system state (it can even suspend a booting kernel, very funny!) and the only way to power if off then is suspend, power on, suspend, power off. weird bios bug maybe, dunno
[10:54] <narcos> Any savy with AT command and USB modems? I'm trying to send   AT+CUSD=1,"*#10#",15   to get my balance, but just get "ERROR" back
[10:55] <varunendra> mat619, have you also tried "sudo shutdown -P 0" ?
[10:55] <theadmin> Daughain: That's very strange error. Can you load the file in vi and then :set list? It should display dollars ($) at the end of every line. Does it?
[10:55] <mat619> varunendra: uhm no, didn't know that one. what's the difference to "-h now"?
[10:55] <Daughain> theadmin, Let me check.
[10:56] <Ben64> mat619: have you checked the man page for shutdown?
[10:56] <varunendra> mat619, it explicitly tells the command to power off after bringing down the system.
[10:57] <varunendra> in fact I sometimes have to use it, I never tried -h though.
[10:57] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[10:57] <Daughain> theadmin, For me, I have ~ characters for newlines, but I am showing 8. I'm also getting an "incomplete last line" error in vi.
[10:57] <mat619> Ben64: not recently :)  I'm not sitting in front of a *nix box right now, that's why I asked
[10:58] <mat619> varunendra: good point, will give it a try. thx for the hint
[10:58] <varunendra> pleasure !
[10:58] <theadmin> Daughain: GA<enter><esc>:wq
[10:58] <theadmin> Daughain: That is, add a new line at the end. Empty one.
[10:59] <theadmin> Daughain: Also, is the file properly encoded? What did you edit it with?
[10:59] <theadmin> Daughain: That is, when you added that line
[10:59] <Daughain> sudo gedit
[11:00] <theadmin> Daughain: Ah, should be fine. Still, though, need a newline at the end I think
[11:00] <Daughain> theadmin, And I have no clue what that first  thing you said to me means/.
[11:00] <theadmin> Daughain: First thing? Which one?
[11:01] <varunendra> Daughain, gedit should be opened with gksu or gksudo. No GUI app should be run with sudo.
[11:01] <Daughain> theadmin, GS<enter><esc>:q
[11:01] <lagbun> hello. sorry for my bad english, can you tell me how can I disable the open effect on ubuntu?
[11:02] <theadmin> Daughain: G = go to end of file, A = add at end of line, Enter = enter key, Escape = return to command mode, :wq = save and exit
[11:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: and for furture reference always use gksudo gedit, not sudo. sudo is for command line programs like nano only, graphical programs like gedit should be ran with gksudo :P
[11:02] <theadmin> Daughain: That's a vi command
[11:02] <Daughain> theadmin, I dont know how to use vi.
[11:02] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, So whats the difference
[11:02] <theadmin> Daughain: Eh, you get the point, though, add an empty line at the end. With any editor.
[11:03] <Daughain> theadmin, This will be the 9th line I am adding.
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> lagbun  i guess you mean the animations. use unity-tweak-tool, window manager, general
[11:03] <histo> Couldn't he just echo /n >> somefile
[11:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: using sudo with a graphical application can change ownership of files in ~/ that will cause you problems down the road :P
[11:04] <histo> nvm
[11:04] <Daughain> nytzOk, thanks for explaining that.
[11:05] <Daughain> Still not accepting a newline.
[11:05] <lagbun> MonkeyDust: I mean the open animation, when you open any program
[11:05] <Daughain> Using gksudo gedit this time.
[11:06] <histo> Daughain: echo >> somefile  would put a new line at the end of the file
[11:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: no prob. I was all "huh?" the first time I heard it, but its become second nature now :P
[11:07] <Daughain> histo, HUnh??? I'm a mechanic.
[11:07] <Gigajoule> what's the cmd for renaming?
[11:07] <histo> Daughain: did you get the new line at the end of the file?
[11:07] <histo> Gigajoule: mv someold somenew
[11:07] <Daughain> histo, aparently not.
[11:07] <Gigajoule> in irc
[11:07] <Gigajoule> ^^
[11:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> now what would be nifty is a .bashrc alias that checks if the program being run sudo someprogram is graphical and run instead gksudo someprogram
[11:08] <histo> Gigajoule: renaming what?
[11:08] <Gigajoule> change the name from my irc account
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !nick|Gigajoule,
[11:08] <histo> Gigajoule: /nick some_name
[11:08] <Gigajoule> k ty
[11:08] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[11:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: echo >> file echo's (prints) nothing into the end of (>>) a file
[11:09] <histo> Daughain: you could  type "echo >> somefile" in a terminal to put a new line at the end of the file
[11:09] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: no it prints a new line
[11:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: for example, echo "foobar" >> somefile will add the words foobar to the end of somefile.
[11:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: was getting to that :P
[11:10] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Now, that makes sense. =)
[11:10] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Permission denied.
[11:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: ah, forgot it was a system file.
[11:11] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  At least when trying to write it to fstab
[11:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: in this case "echo "" | sudo tee /etc/fstab" is what you need, without the outer quotes.
[11:11] <histo> Daughain: echo | sudo tee -a somefile
[11:12] <varunendra> ntzrmtthihu777, forgot -a :)
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> varunendra: so it is :P
[11:12] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777:  his file will be overwritten without it
[11:12] <Daughain> histo, thanks, that seemed to work.
[11:12] <blazemore> Does anyone know if gksu (and family, such as kdesu) can respect the NOPASSWD option of /etc/sudoers ?
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: holy crap.
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> k desu ka?
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD
[11:13] <histo> Daughain: what file are you editing by the way?
[11:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: /etc/fstab
[11:13] <histo> ughh
[11:13] <varunendra> XD
[11:13] <histo> Daughain: did you use my command or ntzrmtthihu777's without the -a ?
[11:13] <blazemore> "kdesu" could be an anime imageboard-reader for KDE...
[11:13] <Daughain> histo,  ntzrmtthihu777  that solved the eol issue. Now confused by this error:
[11:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: trying to add a davfs to it. he recently pastebinned his /etc/fstab so its available were I to have screwed him :/
[11:14] <Daughain> mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: a thousand pardons for my almost catastrophy
[11:14] <Daughain> histo, I used your command
[11:15] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, No worries, I dont even nknow what it might have been.
[11:15] <llutz> Daughain: grep box.com /etc/fstab
[11:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: a screwed up /etc/fstab basically screws *you*
[11:15] <varunendra> ntzrmtthihu777, it's just a "-a", happens ;D
[11:15] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: Don't worry too much about your almost catatrophe: I once had someone dd to /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda2. That was fun
[11:16] <histo> Daughain: any reason you are adding blank lines to the end of your fstab?
[11:16] <varunendra> blazemore, :O
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: because it kept complaining about missing newlines
[11:16] <Daughain> histo, Yes, I was getting a 'no newline" error, and trying to fix it.
[11:16] <histo> Daughain: where was it complaining?
[11:16] <blazemore> varunendra: It was OK, I also forgot sudo, so it wasn't actually catastrophic
[11:17] <varunendra> XD fun really then..
[11:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: ... dayum. thats bad XD
[11:17] <blazemore> I was tired
[11:18] <histo> Daughain: blank lines in fstab are ignored
[11:18] <Daughain> histo, Ok, I am trying to mount my Box.com acct. I followed the guides I found, and keep getting fstab errors. ntzrmtthihu777  decided to duplicate my issue, and had no errors at all, even though we used the same guide to mount the share.
[11:18] <llutz> histo: but you get a warning (not an error) if the last line from fstab isn't ended with a newline
[11:18] <Daughain> I am still getting fstab errors trying to mount this acct.
[11:18] <blazemore> Daughain: Are you sure it's not something embarrasing like the wrong box.com password?
[11:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I used this guide, worked 100% no problem http://xmodulo.com/2013/02/how-to-mount-box-com-cloud-storage-on-linux.html
[11:18] <llutz> Daughain: grep box.com /etc/fstab
[11:19] <Daughain> llutz, I did, it didnt help.
[11:19] <blazemore> Daughain: What does it say, though?
[11:19] <llutz> Daughain: what is the output?
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: it seems to not even get passed it.
[11:19] <histo> Daughain: no idea what a box.com account is. But my suggestion to you would be to mount it via command line to figure out options etc... then add the working ones to your fstab
[11:19] <Daughain> blaIt doent even get that far.
[11:19] <histo> llutz: grep -i box.com from what he keeps typing
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: for future reference when someone wants you to grep a file it means grep search-for-this in-this-file'
[11:19] <blazemore> yes Daughain try to get it mounted manually before you add it to your fstab - that way you only have one set of problems to contend with
[11:19] <Daughain> Mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:20] <llutz> Daughain: grep -i box.com /etc/fstab                 what ouput of this command?
[11:20] <blazemore> Daughain: What command are you running to give you that error?
[11:20] <Daughain> Mount ~/Box.com
[11:20] <histo> llutz: where would you see a warning from fstab not ending in a new line?
[11:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: he means mount. he tends to capitalize here.
[11:20] <blazemore> Daughain: grep -i box.com /etc/fstab                 what ouput of this command?
[11:20] <llutz> histo: scroll back
[11:20] <Daughain> nothing.
[11:20] <histo> llutz: scroll back in what?
[11:20] <Daughain> No output.
[11:20] <blazemore> Daughain: There's your problem then
[11:21] <Daughain> You spelled it wrong.
[11:21] <llutz> histo: here, he pasted the warning earlier
[11:21] <blazemore> Daughain: You're saying to your computer "please mount ~/Box.com using the information I've provided in /etc/fstab" - but you haven't actually added anything to /etc/fstab
[11:21] <llutz> Daughain: so you haven't added the line to /etc/fstab. i don't know WHAT file you edited, it was the wrong one
[11:22] <blazemore> dat satisfaction when it turns out to be something obvious :)
[11:22] <histo> llutz: the error he received was in regards to vi not fstab
[11:22] <Daughain> Strangely, the line shows in vi, nano, and gedit.
[11:22] <histo> Daughain: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:23] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: red herring
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: he's pastebinned his fstab about a million times already :P
[11:23] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: What is giving him that warning message was my question?
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> mount ~/Box.com
[11:23] <Daughain> And, for the fifth time tonight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816503/
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: what is?
[11:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: eep, nothing in it.
[11:24] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: when the system processes the fstab files blank lines are ignored.
[11:24] <blazemore> Daughain: That paste is empty...
[11:24] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: obviously he pasted the wrong file then
[11:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz: or perhaps he mistakenly followed my tee without -a :(
[11:24] <Daughain> give me a few minutes.
[11:24] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: llutz From man: Each filesystem is described on a separate line; fields on  each
[11:24] <histo>        line are separated by tabs or spaces.  Lines starting with '#' are com‐
[11:24] <histo>        ments, blank lines are ignored.
[11:24] <kelly> hi guys , I've some clips with vob format , which program read this format , i want to edit the clips.
[11:25] <histo> kelly: I would convert them to something else using ffmpeg
[11:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: don't tell it to me, mine worked :P
[11:25] <llutz> histo: i know that, the point is: the last not empty line of fstab has to be followed by a newline
[11:25] <blazemore> Daughain: Try "mount /home/daughain/Box.com" just humour me
[11:25] <histo> llutz: Mine isn't on any of my systems
[11:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: ffmpeg is depreciated. avconv is the new thing :P
[11:25] <deepu> any one whats the difference between linux and unix
[11:25] <kelly> i don't know how can i use ffmpeg , could you please give an example
[11:25] <deepu> any one whats the difference between linux and unix ??
[11:25] <blazemore> deepu: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Linux_vs_Unix
[11:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> deepu: unix came first. linux made linux, modeling it after unix.
[11:26] <ikonia> ffmpeg is still active
[11:26] <blazemore> deepu: Kinda like the difference between DOTA and LoL
[11:26] <histo> when did ffmpeg get deprecated
[11:26] <ikonia> deepu: many things - it is very specific
[11:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: using an old version of youtube-dl that uses ffmpeg gives said warning.
[11:26] <Daughain> Whats the command to rename a file?
[11:26] <deepu> can any one tell any fast converssion tool for ubuntu
[11:27] <blazemore> Daughain: mv oldfile newfile
[11:27] <blazemore> deepu: COnvert what?
[11:27] <ikonia> deepu: conversion of what ?
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: infact, just run ffmpeg in your terminal without anything else and see what it tells ya :P
[11:27] <deepu> video to android
[11:27] <deepu> verssion
[11:27] <caodepalha> hi everyone! just installed ubuntu 12.04... its running quite slow... how can i fix this?
[11:27] <ikonia> deepu: handbrake
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> ffmpeg version 0.8.6-4:0.8.6-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the Libav developers
[11:27] <blazemore> deepu: Handbrake is "the" video converter for every platform
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777>   built on Apr  2 2013 17:02:36 with gcc 4.6.3
[11:27] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: that has to do with the version in the repos
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[11:27] <FloodBot1> ntzrmtthihu777: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:27] <jrib> histo: it got forked and maintainers prefer the fork (avconv)
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Use -h to get full help or, even better, run 'man ffmpeg'
[11:28] <histo> jrib: ahh
[11:28] <deepu> is handbreak in ubuntu
[11:28] <deepu> software center
[11:28] <ikonia> deepu: its available
[11:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> deepu: we would not suggest it if it wasn't
[11:28] <blazemore> deepu: Yes, it is in the repositories; use the Software Centre to search for it and install it
[11:28] <Daughain> Goody, I'm screwed.
[11:29] <blazemore> deepu: Make sure you search for "handbrake" not "handbreak"
[11:29] <caodepalha> ubuntu is running very slow
[11:29] <blazemore> Daughain: How so?
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: ah, so installed from source would be newer?
[11:29] <Daughain> My fstab is now blank.
[11:29] <histo> Daughain: don't reboot
[11:29] <kelly> can "handbrake" convert vob format ?
[11:29] <blazemore> Daughain: Don't reboot
[11:29] <Daughain> No #$%^&
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816438/
[11:29] <varunendra> Daughain, "cat /etc/fstab" gives any output?? Time to search back your previous pastebin links ??
[11:29] <histo> Daughain: did you make a back up of your fstab?
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: your fstab, saved by pastebin :P
[11:29] <ikonia> Daughain: use the pastebins of your fstab you've posted to restore it
[11:29] <blazemore> Daughain: Find one of your many many pastebin links. To be 100% sure use "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" to edit
[11:29] <deepu> its not available
[11:30] <deepu> in ubuntu soft center
[11:30] <blazemore> deepu: Did you spell it right? "handbrake"
[11:30] <llutz> histo: "tail -1 /etc/fstab|hexdump" shows your fstab not ending with "000a"?
[11:30] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I guess all those pastes are useful now.
[11:30] <ikonia> !info hanrbrake
[11:30] <blazemore> deepu: It's just you called it "handbreak" earlier
[11:30] <deepu> yes
[11:30] <varunendra> blazemore, gksu, not sudo.
[11:30] <deepu> i corrected
[11:30] <blazemore> varunendra: End result is the same, surely?
[11:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: heh, yep. sorry I screwed yah :P
[11:30] <Daughain> Dunno if it was you or me, so, no worries.
[11:30] <ikonia> ah, it's hosted in a PPA, not the core repo
[11:30] <histo> Daughain: does sudo mount -t davfs https://www.box.com/dav /home/daughin/Box.com   in a terminal work?
[11:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: but in the end it ends up causing issue down the line.
[11:31] <Daughain> Now, how should I go about fixing this?
[11:31] <varunendra> blazemore, in this case the end result will be same, but it is just a bad habit.
[11:31] <blazemore> !info handbrake
[11:31] <caodepalha> my ubuntu is running very slow can anyone help
[11:31] <blazemore> deepu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107915/how-do-i-download-and-install-handbrake
[11:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: sudo nano /etc/fstab && paste the contents back into it.
[11:31] <ikonia> https.....the certificates will probably block that unless they are valid
[11:31] <histo> caodepalha: check top to see what's sucking up everything.
[11:31] <Daughain> histo, Let me fix my missing fstab first, please.
[11:31] <ikonia> Daughain: have you actually looked at that link
[11:32] <histo> Daughain: click download as text from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816438/
[11:32] <caodepalha> where is top? first timer
[11:32] <ikonia> Daughain: it requires username/password
[11:32] <histo> caodepalha: open a terminal and type top
[11:32] <blazemore> ikonia: He followed a guide to set up dav credentials
[11:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: yes, and it will ask for password in terminal upon mount.
[11:32] <ikonia> you can't put it in the fstab like that
[11:32] <histo> caodepalha: or open system monitor from Dash
[11:32] <Daughain> ikonia, Let me fix my fstab first please. ANd yes, I own a box account.
[11:32] <Daughain> Had it fotr a year now.
[11:32] <blazemore> caodepalha: You don't have to do that in a terminal, there's a graphical utility similar to Task Manager on Windows - I believe it's called something like "System Monitor"
[11:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: echo ikonia: I got mine working 100%, following the guide http://xmodulo.com/2013/02/how-to-mount-box-com-cloud-storage-on-linux.html here, and my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816523/ works fine: not found
[11:33] <caodepalha> ok did it anyway. terminal opened
[11:33] <caodepalha> now what can i do?
[11:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: I got mine working 100%, following the guide http://xmodulo.com/2013/02/how-to-mount-box-com-cloud-storage-on-linux.html here, and my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816524/ works fine
[11:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> misplaced " XD
[11:34] <cindylow_> hi
[11:34] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: he doesn't even have an fstab
[11:34] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: and he's typing a malformed command anyhoot
[11:34] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, look "noauto"
[11:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: he does now. like I said.
[11:35] <Daughain> Ummmmmm......... ntzrmtthihu777 , it just  mounted the box acct fine...??
[11:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: yes, then after that I run mount .box.com and it asked for my credentials, and after I set up secrets it did not even ask for that.
[11:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: what did you do? full mount or short mount? exact command. copy paste.
[11:35] <caodepalha> gtk gnash 47%
[11:35] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, howeever putting that in the fstab and expecting it to automount won't work
[11:35] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: also did anyone check that he has davfs2 installed?
[11:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: were not expecting it.
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: time and time again, he has it.
[11:36] <Daughain> I copied my fstab, and used the basic mount ~/Box.com
[11:36] <blazemore> Daughain: Have you fixed your /etc/fstab now?
[11:36] <caodepalha> gtk gnash 47%. what can i do?
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: "mount ~/Box.com", letter for letter?
[11:36] <Daughain> I seem to have everything fixed now.
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: weird. why it did not work before is beyond me. :/
[11:36] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  Yes, thats all I did.
[11:36] <blazemore> Daughain: I imagine there was just something screwy in your fstab
[11:37] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: what is controlling the authentication of this?
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: possiblly, lol. I've had rubyscripts screw up for one multibyte character.
[11:37] <Daughain> blazemore, Apparently. I guess losing the whole file helped me in this case.
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: was this with or without the ~/.davfs2/secrets file setup?
[11:37] <Hexagonite> Is anyone using the Caffeine applet here?
[11:38] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Not sure at this moment. Need time to loo9k
[11:38] <caodepalha> gtk gnash 47%. what can i do?
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: no need to look. when you ran mount did it ask for your credentials or not?
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | caodepalha
[11:38] <Daughain> No, it didnt. But, I dont remember commenting in the line in the /secrets file
[11:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: hm.
[11:39] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, In fdact, it is still commented out. Looking at it now.
[11:39] <varunendra> caodepalha, what is the problem? Is gnash stuck?
[11:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: perhaps it "remmebers" you from using the nautilus mount you did?
[11:39] <histo> caodepalha: are you playing some flash video right now?
[11:39] <Daughain> Could be.
[11:40] <Daughain> And, iuts mounted as a device for some reason.
[11:40] <varunendra> histo, I think "gtk" is the standalone gui for gnash ??
[11:40] <caodepalha> no. i'm just on firefox and everything else is closed
[11:40] <histo> varunendra: what?
[11:40] <histo> caodepalha: does the page you are viewing in firefox have flash?
[11:41] <histo> caodepalha: who owns the gnash pid?
[11:41] <varunendra> histo, I thought "gtk-gnash" is the standalond gui player for swf.
[11:41] <Daughain> Thanks to everyone for your help.
[11:41] <histo> caodepalha: if it's owned by your user kill it
[11:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: no prob, and thanks for letting me get a new cloud storage :P
[11:42] <caodepalha> closed all windows now. i'm just on this irc room. checking if gtk gnash is owned by my user
[11:43] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Now, how do I make sure it automounts after a reboot?
[11:43] <histo> Daughain: it will if it's in fstab
[11:43] <histo> Daughain: well assuming the network is up when it tries
[11:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: it wont' with the noauto parameter.
[11:43] <Daughain> histo, So, after a reboot, I wont have to manually mount it agaion?
[11:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: remove noauto, and it should be fine.
[11:44] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Thnaks again. =)
[11:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: again, the noauto will not cause it to :P
[11:44] <histo> Daughain: assuming you set it up without noauto it will mount on boot
[11:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: and I'm not sure at what point you network is setup and the share is mounted, so if its the wrong order it won't work :P
[11:44] <vnc786> hello all
[11:44] <vnc786> i have broken my ubuntu 12.04 http://tinyurl.com/mt74o4m now i am trying to reinstalling  i have choosen "Something Else" option
[11:44] <vnc786> i just want to know i have assigned mount point(i got previous mount point with e2label) keeping Format option uncheck will that erased my home data or it will previous
[11:45] <vnc786> :s/previous/preserve
[11:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> vnc786: I find *not* using the /home partition during install, and then adding it to fstab, to be safest.
[11:45] <Daughain> sWell, I removed the noauto param, guess I just need to reboot and find out.
[11:45] <histo> vnc786: if you don't format it will not erase it.
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I did that once, but it still overwrote my ~
[11:46] <varunendra> vnc786, did you create a separate /home partition?
[11:47] <vnc786> varunendra: yes
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> varunendra: yep.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: easier tio restore data from backup and do a clean install from scratch
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> I think since I used the same username it overwrote my folder's contents.
[11:47] <varunendra> vnc786, then just install only choosing / like ntzrmtthihu777 mentioned. Don't mention /home in the installation.
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: I would not say easier, but def better :P
[11:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: but I lack the resources to do so, so I'm stuck :P
[11:48] <varunendra> vnc786, you can later add the previous /home partition once the installation is finished.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: i suggest you look into a backup solution
[11:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: broke, no way atm to do so. most of my personal files are on my samba server, so they are relatively safe.
[11:52] <vnc786> and what it will do to other dir like etc,opt,etc if there are missing files then will it add those files because right now i have dialog box saying "Directories containing system files(/etc,/lib) that already exits will deleted
[11:52] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Everything  mounts perfectly now. Thanks.
[11:52] <varunendra> vnc786, yes they will be deleted.
[11:52] <Daughain> Need coffee now.,
[11:52] <ikonia> varunendra: if you are going to re-install, it will wipe your existing OS
[11:52] <ikonia> varunendra: take backups of what you need
[11:53] <varunendra> ikonia, it is vnc786 who is having problems :)
[11:53] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[11:53] <varunendra> np ;)
[11:54] <purezen> Hey guys..! Am running 12.10 64-bit.. updated.. on a 3rd gen i5 using integrated graphics..
[11:55] <purezen> .. and when I take a screenshot.. all I get is a blank black screen...
[11:55] <purezen> Anyone..?
[11:55] <ikonia> purezen: how are you taking a screen shot ?
[11:55] <vnc786> varunendra: i am with you but just wondering i am just leaving /dev/sda2(home) so will my partition order will be intact
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> purezen: how are you doing it?
[11:56] <purezen> ikonia, ActionParsnip : Hey..! I am just pressing the PrntScr button..
[11:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> purezen: try installing scrot and using that
[11:57] <purezen> Am using Unity Standard btw..
[11:57] <varunendra> vnc786, if you are not setting any mount points for /dev/sda2 during the installation, it will (and its order) will be intact.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> purezen: try: sleep 10;  DISPLAY=:0.0 import -window root ~/Pictures/1stJul2013.jpg
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> purezen: you will need imagemagick installing
[11:57] <vnc786> varunendra: okay now hitting "Install Now" :)
[11:57] <ikonia> or use the print screen application
[11:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> vnc786: all you will have to do is edit your /etc/fstab file after the install is done, and it will mount your /home for you :P
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> purezen: once you run the command you'll have 10 seconds to setup the screen :)
[11:58] <varunendra> vnc786, your root (/) will get overwritten anyway (whether you choose to format or not).
[11:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> vnc786: part of the install process :P
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: if you set the partition to be used as /home but NOT formatted, it will add the fstab line for you
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> purezen  shutter is a nice tool for screenshots
[11:58] <purezen> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks..! Shall try that..:-)
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> purezen: does that give an image?
[11:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: I did that *once* and it screwed me over.
[11:59] <purezen> ActionParsnip: On it..
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: probably a bad option when you set it up
[11:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: which is why we're currently advising a super safe way to do it :P
[11:59] <varunendra> ActionParsnip, I can confirm it deletes any existing files. It even explicitly warns the user before starting the installation.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: i see, but yet there is no backup, but you want to be super safe.....
[12:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: what part of "broke" don't you get?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: depends how valuable your data is to you...
[12:00] <varunendra> oh, but I never tried with separate /home, so I may be missing something :P ActionParsnip
[12:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: no amount of personal value I place on said files is going to trump a $25/wk salary
[12:02] <KrizOne> hi everyone, how do i give everyone in the www-data group access to everything inside /var/www and all future content too?
[12:02] <zorael> Which package provides the feature that allows you to compare config file changes before deciding if you want to overwrite, backup or ignore them? Is it built into debconf or does it have to be installed?
[12:02] <zorael> as in, config file changes upon package upgrade
[12:03] <llutz> zorael: thats built-in in debconf
[12:03] <hmamouchi> hi
[12:04] <purezen> MonkeyDust: Oh.. Thanks..:-)
[12:04] <hmamouchi> Please Help me ;) Lubuntu 10.10 no Upgrade :S
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | hmamouchi
[12:05] <llutz> zorael: you specify your config-files in packagename.conffiles and debconf checks md5 on those file for changes on upgrades
[12:05] <zorael> llutz: Thanks.
[12:06] <hmamouchi> Thanks
[12:06] <hmamouchi> :D
[12:07] <zorael> llutz: right. For context, I have a package that seems to manually overwrite some config files in postinst, hence my wondering if this feature was provided by some other apt addon that I was simply missing.
[12:08] <purezen> ActionParsnip: Hey..  I thought it was seahorse but they are not there.
[12:28] <coolbuddy> how to enable acpi_thermal http://goo.gl/wjXqv ? """ sysctl hw """ gives me nothing
[12:32] <coolbuddy> how to enable acpi_thermal http://goo.gl/wjXqv ? """$ sysctl hw """ gives me nothing
[12:34] <vnc786> after reinstalling i always getting grub screen
[12:36] <bawank> test
[12:36] <willther> hi
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !details|vnc786
[12:37] <manish_> hi
[12:38] <cfhowlett> manish_, greetings
[12:38] <willther> i'm from Brazil, i wold help if someone needs.
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !br|willther,
[12:39] <willther> thanks
[12:40] <NSA_AGENT> how do you open a new server window in hexchat ?
[12:41] <histo> NSA_AGENT: and this has to do with ubuntu how?
[12:41] <NSA_AGENT> well im using hexchat on ubuntu
[12:41] <NSA_AGENT> :)
[12:41] <iceroot> NSA_AGENT: #hexchat or whatever there channel is
[12:42] <NSA_AGENT> ok
[12:42] <NSA_AGENT> sorry about that
[12:42] <cfhowlett> NSA_AGENT, no harm done.
[12:42] <SirNeo1> hello
[12:42] <cfhowlett> SirNeo1, greetings
[12:43] <SirNeo1> anyone can help me to set up a VPN on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:43] <iceroot> !vpn | SirNeo1
[12:43] <SirNeo1> thanks
[12:43] <matematikaadit> I accidentically uninstall unity
[12:43] <iceroot> SirNeo1: if you have a detailed question, please feel free to ask
[12:43] <iceroot> matematikaadit: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:43] <blazemore> matematikaadit: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:44] <SirNeo1> for PPTP i don't neet to install other software on my windows to connect no?
[12:44] <blazemore> SirNeo1: nope :)
[12:44] <foo357_> Hello, I want to change the time daily cron is run (currently 6:25 am, to midnight). Do I only have to edit the crontab file, should I restart any daemon?
[12:44] <SirNeo1> for OpenVNP i need to install some software on the machine
[12:44] <SirNeo1> ok, thanks ;)
[12:44] <blazemore> SirNeo1: You're correct
[12:44] <iceroot> foo357_: only edit the file, no need to restart anything
[12:44] <foo357_> ok thanks iceroot
[12:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm getting terrribly irritated at this .desktop file Xd
[12:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here use Redcar IDE/text editor? do you have a launcher file for it? could you please share, as this is kicking my tuchus XD
[12:48] <suore> Hello.  [x11grab @ 0x1433f20] Couldn't parse video size. What it mean?
[12:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: are you trying to recordscreen with a script?
[12:49] <suore> ntzrmtthihu777, yes
[12:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: would you like my script? (my as in I possess it, I did not write it) it works wonderfully.
[12:49] <suore> huhz okie dokie
[12:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: instructions here: http://is.gd/dUyXdU
[12:50] <suore> http://pastebin.com/FDfgh6mN here is my script
[12:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: oh, are you trying a livestream?
[12:51] <suore> yes
[12:51] <suore> idk what is wrong
[12:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry, I don't know a thing about that, lol. I use the script i linked to record for youtube, not live stuffs :P
[12:52] <suore> this script i found at google,
[12:52] <suore> aa ok ok
[12:53] <raub> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding defined eth0 and eth1 but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631796 seems to say not to. Who should I trust?
[12:53] <matematikaadit> it's like tf to forever to do apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop. although it's just 6mb to download.
[12:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: ubuntu-desktop is merely a metapackage. it points to a host of other packages.
[12:54] <matematikaadit> maybe my apt-source is near enough.
[12:54] <matematikaadit> s/is/is not
[12:56] <matematikaadit> is there a way to change apt source via cli?
[12:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: not sure. google for ubuntu apt mirrors, may help
[12:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: what could give you more info is apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop, this will show you *all* packages that are being installed., its quite alot :/
[12:57] <SirNeo1> pty "pptp YOUR_VPN_GATEWAY --nolaunchpppd"
[12:58] <SirNeo1> what should i type instean this? domainname? ip?
[12:59] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: well, i accidentically uninstall unity. I just have access to terminal via ctrl-alt-1.
[12:59] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: right now trying to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[13:00] <llutz> SirNeo1: ip/hostname of your pptp-vpn-server/gateway
[13:01] <blazemore> matematikaadit: however long it takes, reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop package WILL work
[13:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: ouch
[13:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: you can open more than one session with ctr+alt+f{1..6} :P
[13:03] <shvelo> Hi, I've just bought Asus Q200E, which has a touchscreen. I'm interested if desktop Ubuntu has good touchscreen support. Will it just move the mouse?
[13:03] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, i know, i use irssi in ctrl+alt+f2.
[13:03] <shvelo> cursor*
[13:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: you may also want to look into the program screen :P
[13:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> shvelo: depends on the touchscreen.
[13:04] <blazemore> shvelo: If it doesn't have good touchscreen support then idk what they've been doing for the last few releases
[13:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: I've had hell using mine, lol
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !touch|shvelo,
[13:05] <shvelo> -_-
[13:05] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: ahh... yes, i've installed tmux (screen alternatives) before.
[13:05] <matematikaadit> why i forget it.
[13:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: not for a phone, did you even read what s/he said?
[13:05] <shvelo> cfhowlett, it's for tablets
[13:05] <funky> is there php channel that dont require invite?
[13:06] <Pici> funky: ##php.  You need to register/identify to join.
[13:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> shvelo: you may want to look into djin and grail
[13:06] <Pici> !register | funky
[13:06] <RBRKSRE> hi
[13:07] <bawank> hi
[13:07] <cfhowlett> shvelo, mulitple screens, missed the details.  sorry
[13:07] <shvelo> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks!
[13:08] <RBRKSRE> What's the simplest script to decompress every file in a folder?
[13:08] <RBRKSRE> *every archive
[13:08] <bawank> how do i change setp up for alt-tab effect on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:08] <bawank> *set up
[13:08] <zamn> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my system and I keep getting versioning errors.  Sound is asymetric 2. when recording games is like watcjhing video with 2fps....
[13:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: good enough for me, lol. just trying to help man :P
[13:09] <shvelo> RBRKSRE, more details?
[13:10] <zamn> it seems libldap-2.4.2 wont upgrade and I have no clue why -_- I keep getting errors saying that it breaks libldap-2.4-2:i386
[13:10] <suore> oki oki
[13:10] <suore> after  redcord have 5gb ...
[13:10] <suore> wow
[13:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: <unzip program> *.<zip type>
[13:10] <RBRKSRE> i have a folder with 1.7z, 2.7z, ... n.7z   . How can I compress everything?
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> Hey guys, I need help on setting up a fake webcam in Ubuntu.
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> I use HP-WEBCAM 101.
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> I need HP-WEBCAM 101 to display an Animated GIF file.
[13:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: 7z x '*.7z'
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> any idea how can I do it?
[13:11] <CalvinKlein> I've used webcam-studio but no luck.
[13:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: or it may be double quotes, forget.
[13:11] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, thank you.
[13:11] <CalvinKlein> anybody here who can help in this particular situation?
[13:11] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, can it work with other programs as well?
[13:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: the context may be different, but in general yes. unzip does not need the x, it all depends on the program.
[13:12] <bawank> hi everyone,how do i change setp up for alt-tab effect on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:12] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, cool! i didn't know you could do that
[13:13] <CalvinKlein> RBRKSRE, ntzrmtthihu777, ActionParsnip, Math022, X-tonic, histo, bawank, lulz0r, Math-, I use HP-WEBCAM 101, and I want HP-WEBCAM to display an animated GIF file, like I want it to display a source like in ManyCam, since I use Linux, ManyCam doesn't run here, but I want my webcam to display an image instead.
[13:13] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, it worked the way you said.
[13:13] <CalvinKlein> how can I do that?
[13:13] <RBRKSRE> CalvinKlein, did you try to google it?
[13:13] <zephyr> I'm having an issue with date not returning a correct value in my bash script.
[13:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: glad to be of help
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> does anybody have any experiences with v4l2loopback? I heard it can display images on my webcam?
[13:14] <Pici> !Google | RBRKSRE
[13:14] <Pici> CalvinKlein: Don't hilight people like that.
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> Pici, can you help me?
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> I've been asking for help on this since months.
[13:14] <zephyr> NOW=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d-%H%S")    <--- that returns the correct date, but the time is always incorrect.  Did I miss something?
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> and nobody has solved this yet.
[13:14] <gordonjcp> CalvinKlein: how would you display images *on a webcam*?
[13:14] <gordonjcp> it's a camera
[13:14] <gordonjcp> it captures images
[13:14] <Pici> CalvinKlein: No, but just be patient and ask your question with as much info as possible.  Mass hilighting people like that is going to get you kicked.
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> gordonjcp, you know manycam right?
[13:14] <gordonjcp> CalvinKlein: no
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> lol.
[13:14] <gordonjcp> what's manycam?
[13:15] <SirNeo1> YOUR_DOMAIN_OR_SERVER_NAME\\YOUR_VPN_LOGIN * YOUR_VPN_PASSWORD *
[13:15] <SirNeo1> can i have more of this?
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> in manycam, you can display images on your webcam
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> like a video source.
[13:15] <SirNeo1> for me one user, for my mom an user etch?
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> not a webcam, but a video source.
[13:15] <gordonjcp> CalvinKlein: how can a webcam display images?  It's a camera
[13:15] <histo> CalvinKlein: webcamstudio ???
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> histo, I tried it out.
[13:15] <Pici> SirNeo1: Do you have a vpn to connect to?
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> but it fails to do so.
[13:15] <jdelgado> CalvinKlein: Are you asking how overlay an image on a webcam?
[13:15] <SirNeo1> i'm setting it up now
[13:15] <zephyr> gordonjcp: he means that it outputs a different video stream than what the camera is recording.  To software accessing the camera, it will feed it a different image.
[13:15] <histo> CalvinKlein: http://superuser.com/questions/608521/manycam-like-software-for-linux
[13:16] <SirNeo1> that is the chap-secrets file
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> histo, i've seen that.
[13:16] <histo> CalvinKlein: webcamstudio should be in the repo
[13:16] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: i think i know why it takes forever to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> histo, I have it installed.
[13:16] <zamn> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my system and I keep getting versioning errors. Could someone take a look? http://pastebin.com/jePEZYCJ thanks
[13:16] <zephyr> gordonjcp: it's used, for example, in video chat rooms.  When someone views your webcam, you can have it show a recorded video or still images instead of a live iimage.
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> yes, zephyr.
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> you're right.
[13:16] <histo> CalvinKlein: good then use it
[13:16] <zephyr> CalvinKlein: hope I clarified that a little better for you.
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> Thanks zephyr!
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> histo, it doesn't work.
[13:17] <histo> CalvinKlein: then file bug
[13:17] <Pici> !doesntwork
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> I tried to show a image, but it doesn't show up in sources.
[13:17] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: when i try to wget the packages, it respond with connection closed
[13:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: I bet you have too many ppas that are conflicting with each other.
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> source layer= HP-WEBCAM 101, (I want to display a image on this)
[13:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: how are you connected to the internet, wireless? wired?
[13:17] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: modem.
[13:18] <zephyr> haha
[13:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> can you ping the google dns? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[13:18] <Pici> !who
[13:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: or wait, you're using the machine in question huh?
[13:18] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: yes,
[13:18] <CalvinKlein> zephyr, any idea how can I do this?
[13:19] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: maybe it's the source that caused the problem
[13:19] <zephyr> CalvinKlein: No.  I've never needed it in linux.
[13:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: I'll tell you exactly why its taking forever. what you don't get is basically you are reinstalling *all* non-core ubuntu programs.
[13:19] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: s/source/apt-source/ or whatever its name
[13:19] <CalvinKlein> histo: ?
[13:19] <zamn> ntzrmtthihu777: so you're saying i should look at sources.list?
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> guys.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> I want to add another video-source in linux.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> like ManyCam adds up MANYCAM-WEBCAM
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> which shows images.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> can I do that in linux?
[13:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: open another tty, do apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep Depends, and realize you are reinstalling *all* of these packages. of course its going to take forever.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> zephyr, I want to add another video source in linux.
[13:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, actually.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> e.g: MANYCAM-WEBCAM
[13:21] <zamn> ntzrmtthihu777: there is nothing in that directory
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: really?
[13:21] <histo> !repeat | CalvinKlein
[13:21] <zamn> yes, really ntzrmtthihu777
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: ok, then have you installed alot of packages via *.deb files?
[13:21] <zephyr> CalvinKlein: you can do ANYTHING in Linux.  It just depends on your knowledge and patience.
[13:21] <zamn> nope
[13:22] <zamn> ntzrmtthihu777: its just a default ubuntu server installation. All i've done since i installed it was apt-get update/upgrade
[13:23] <kohvihoor> zamn: it seems it's trying to upgrade to an older version
[13:23] <zephyr> Anyone know a workaround for Netflix?  VirtualBox a viable option?
[13:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: well I'll be a monkeys uncle. sorry, but I have not your answer. you could try apt-get purging the packages in question.  I always disable it after installing Ubuntu because it nags me all the time in the least user-friendly way
[13:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> zephyr: actually, there is a ppa that does it for you :P
[13:23] <zamn> yes ntzrmtthihu777. I tried running a whole slew of commands which cleans everything, purges things, etc
[13:23] <kohvihoor> zamn: can you maybe remove libldap, upgrade stuff and reinstall it after that?
[13:23] <zephyr> ntzrmtthihu777: Oh, really?
[13:24] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: actually i just need to get 2.202kb of packages. If only i could show apt-get install --print-uris...
[13:24] <matematikaadit> output
[13:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> zephyr: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-netflix-in-ubuntu-through.html
[13:24] <zamn> kohvihoor: well it seems that ab unch of other packages that depend on this would fail so apt doesnt want me to
[13:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: all I can tell you is to be patient, or use this as an opportunity to swap to a lighter weight de :P
[13:25] <kohvihoor> zamn: from what to where are you upgrading? from one ubuntu version to another or just a regular upgrade?
[13:25] <zamn> just a regular upgrade kohvihoor
[13:25] <zamn> kohvihoor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:26] <Pici> zamn: Do you have precice-proposed enabled?
[13:26] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: do i need to change my source.list?
[13:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: as I've stated, you are *reinstalling* *everything* listed in "apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep Depends". its *going* to take *a* *long* *time*. patience bro. and source.list does not change the server you pull from, I think.
[13:28] <zamn> Pici: enabled it just no
[13:28] <zamn> w
[13:28] <warfaren> dare i buy the MSI Z87-G45 motherboard that has a Killer NIC E2205 and expect it to work with ubuntu?
[13:28] <warfaren> googled and found nothing at all
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !hardware|warefaren
[13:29] <warfaren> it's new stuff.. socket 1150 (haswell i believe?)
[13:29] <warfaren> k
[13:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> is CalvinKlein still going on? or has he got a solution?
[13:29] <zamn> Pici: but not helping me much :p
[13:29] <Asad2005> When i have a power down and upon power restore my media drive restarts a little later then my PC. How  do i set up NFS mount on fstab to start after say 5 minutes elapsed?
[13:30] <Pici> zamn: I didn't ask you to enable it. I just asked if it was enabled.
[13:30] <zamn> oh
[13:30] <zamn> :x
[13:30] <warfaren> cfhowlett: they're not listing Killer under the wired network interfaces list
[13:30] <cfhowlett> warfaren, in the absence of any other guidance, I'd say it's a roll of the dice.  The latest/greatest/shiny stuff is like that.
[13:30] <warfaren> uhuh
[13:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: you can pass it noauto and add the mount command to a startup script :D
[13:32] <Asad2005> ntzrmtthihu777: Can you please shed somelight? adding a noauto is ok but how to do it via a script
[13:32] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: ah, sorry. I'll be patience. it's just that this whole thing that get my nerves.
[13:32] <Pici> zamn: Also, are you aware that you are trying to install both the amd64 and the i386 versions of that package?  Are you sure that you need the i386 version?
[13:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: and if you do use getlibs to do it :P
[13:33] <aiten_44> Asad2005, noauto wouldn't be part of the script you would have to write you would have to put that in fstab I believe
[13:33] <kohvihoor> zamn: can you pastebin what: apt-cache policy libldap-2.4.2 gives you
[13:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: yes, noauto goes in fstab.
[13:33] <zamn> kohvihoor: http://pastebin.com/7jwR3suF
[13:33] <coops> anyone here know networking configuration on 12.10 server inside VirtualBox?
[13:33] <zamn> Pici: I'm not specifying any version to install. I'm just upgrading packages
[13:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816763/
[13:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> ntzrmtthihu777: then add "mount /path/to/mountpoint" to a startup script
[13:34] <aiten_44> coops: what are you looking to do?
[13:34] <warfaren> cfhowlett: what about the other parts, CPU being haswell, could it be a problem? or are CPUs abstract enough for the OS not to run into such issues?
[13:35] <TrD> how to catch a Video stream URL under Ubuntu please
[13:35] <TrD> i want to play the video in a standalone player
[13:36] <coops> aiten_44: thx. i am trying to get a basic setup to work wih gitian-builder, but i think the 12.10 image starts w. no external networking config, just terminal login (whereas desktop image seems to work with its own NAT 'out of the box')
[13:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> tv-maxe may be what you want
[13:36] <cfhowlett> warfaren, I can't speak sensibly on that ... I only install on OEM systems.
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> TrD  minitube
[13:36] <warfaren> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[13:36] <Asad2005> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks i know about noauto, I wanted some info on the script part, I dont think cron job is relavent here?
[13:36] <TrD> ntzrmtthihu777:  is a player i want to retrieve link to add it to the player
[13:36] <TrD> i wana try that MonkeyDust
[13:37] <TrD> ty :)
[13:37] <coops> aiten_44: trying to get to ssh login from host machine to guest OS
[13:37] <aiten_44> coops: I'm not real sure what gitian-builder is but if you want to use nat you should be able to shut down your virtual image and then click settings and there should be a tab labeled networking where you can specify if you want nat or say a bridge
[13:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: edit your startup applications (how you do so depends on your *ubuntu version)
[13:39] <coops> aiten_44: ok. i set it up same way (that way) as for Desktop, but i'm going to double-check everything. at this point, i know openssh-server is running on the server, but it never logs any attempt to login, while the client on the host gets disconnected after a timeout (the port forwarding to the guest is working on the host)
[13:39] <aiten_44> Asad2005: you could use a cron job on restart that calls a script which waits for 5 minutes then mounts the device you want mounted
[13:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> TrD: ah crap, you were in here earlier weren't you, asking about p2p
[13:40] <aiten_44> coops: can you ping your image from another computer on your network?
[13:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> aiten_44: thanks, I know next to nothing about cron atm XD
[13:40] <Pici> zamn: I'm looking at one of my 12.04 systems here, it looks like (at least in us.archive.ubuntu.com) that the i386 and amd64 binaries of libldap-2.4-2 have different versions.
[13:40] <TrD> yeah ntzrmtthihu777
[13:40] <Asad2005> aiten_44: but how do you mean to issue mount -a every 5 minutes?
[13:40] <coops> gitian-builder is a project for multiple developers to do identical builds on various OSes and then sign the same identical build (adding confidence)
[13:41] <pfifo> ive tried a few other mirrors, but cant seem to work around the 404 for this url http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz any ideas for a different workaround
[13:41] <pfifo> Pici, btw, the topic points to the wrong release notes
[13:41] <Pici> pfifo: I'll take a look
[13:42] <aiten_44> Asad2005 depending on what cron version you are using some you can issue @reboot or some there is a folder in /etc called something like cron.reboot which you can add a script to
[13:42] <coops> aiten_44: not even trying to support that - was only trying to map a host port (arbitrary) to the ssh port of the guest (22). had it working with the desktop image...
[13:42] <NSA_AGENT> anyone know any good rss feed/news argeigtors you can install from the terminal in linux ?
[13:42] <coops> idea is the image is only used inside the host to build something, nothing from outside the host should be hitting it
[13:42] <Pici> zamn: Actually, sorry, I misread.  You may want to do an apt-get update first and then check the outputs of apt-cache policy libldap-2.4-2
[13:44] <aiten_44> coops:  Alright so you don't want any external networking outside the image will it let you ssh localhost? and have you checked what the firewall rules look like might be something dumb set up that you didn't realize was there
[13:45] <Pici> pfifo: thanks, updated.
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:45] <pfifo> Pici, now I feel obligated to actually read them.
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here a *.desktop wizard?  I got the following problem: installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop. no network adapter recognized... found out that i need broadcom fireware. installed fwcutter. next i want to install firmware-b43-installer... problem is, that installation tells me that it wants to download new firmware.  connection to server, of course fails, because I got no working network adapter. I downloaded the requested file on another pc but dunno
[13:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh my dear god, I got it 0_0
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: you may just want to unstall bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:49] <aiten_44> Matt_: I think the kernel supports those cards
[13:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: or wait, 13.04?
[13:50] <blazemore> That bloody package... I see firmware-b43-installer mentioned in here at least once a day
[13:50] <Matt__> :D
[13:50] <Matt__> i already read a lot about it
[13:50] <Matt__> but still got problems solving it
[13:51] <blazemore> I'm not having a go at you, don't get me wrong :)
[13:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: care to give me the output of lspci -nn | grep -i network?
[13:51]  * cfhowlett thinks he must be VERY lucky.  He installs all the needed Broadcom stuff directly from the ubuntu ISO
[13:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: said package is on the iso?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, depends on the specific broadcom chipset ...
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: true that.
[13:52] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  output lists the broadcom network controler
[13:52] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, broadcom 43XX is on the iso ...
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: yes, gimme! :P
[13:52] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, 2 minutes at the terminal, no wifi required ... http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[13:53] <coops> aiten_44: will try the internal ssh, good idea. i did not configure any firewall on the image, but maybe it has something pre-installed.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, I used the No Internet STA option
[13:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> never heard of it, lol.
[13:54] <pfifo> ive tried a few other mirrors, but cant seem to work around the 404 for this url http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz any ideas for a different workaround
[13:54] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  can't. typing on my win lap right now
[13:54] <aiten_44> coops: If that doesn't work check the sshd config file you wouldn't happen to be trying to login as root are you?
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: what are you trying to do?
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: install flashplugin?
[13:54] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, install shockwave flash
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: what command are you using?
[13:54] <blazemore> pfifo: did you try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" ?
[13:55] <coops> aiten_44: not trying to log in as root ;)
[13:55] <aiten_44> coops: I didn't think so but it was worth asking just in case
[13:55] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, actually ive tried all of them, everything I know that triggers its install... after all that failed, ive been working with just 'flashplugin-installer'
[13:56] <kaji331> quit()
[13:56] <kaji331> quit
[13:56] <kaji331> \quit
[13:56] <blazemore> he got it in the end
[13:56] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, need help finding Drivers for BroadCom Wireless card
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer | tee apt.log, and pastebin apt.log
[13:56] <blazemore> Sorry ANN-TechCoder but you just made my day :)
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: bwhahahahahah XD
[13:57] <blazemore> Vote for renaming #ubuntu to #broadcom ?
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> aye!
[13:57] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, want me to uninstall or purge first?
[13:57] <coops> aiten_44: ssh ubuntu@localhost works, after warning the first time about unknown host localhost
[13:57] <coops> so ssh server up and running
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: try it without, then with, purging :P
[13:57] <Matt__> to get things clear: I want to install firmware-b43-installer, but this requires another driver update, which i downloaded. but "make" gives me "no rule to create "wl_apsta/buildflags.mk"" any idea?
[13:57] <blazemore> sorry ANN-TechCoder not your fault, but I mentioned earlier how every day I see people with broadcom issues
[13:57] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, ok
[13:58] <aiten_44> coops: well thats good did you check to see if there is a firewall in place by default?
[13:58] <blazemore> Matt__: Do you have to run ./configure first?
[13:58] <coops> aiten_44: ifconfig -a shows only eth1 and lo configured, no IP addr other than <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:58] <ANN-TechCoder> It's an old Notebook. 13.04 has everything working fine but Wireless card
[13:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: and I *neeed* apt.log's output. details are your friend here, and that is a big detail.
[13:58] <ANN-TechCoder> What would be the best way of finding drivers for it?
[13:58] <coops> i think prob more basic than firewall
[13:58] <Matt__> ./configure -> no file found
[13:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> ANN-TechCoder: lspci -nn | grep Broadcom, give the results here.
[13:59] <blazemore> ANN-TechCoder: Can you make that "grep -i broadcom" instead of just "grep Broadcom" ?
[13:59] <coops> aiten_44: the desktop image came up with a 10.x.x.x address which it should if NAT running, no?
[13:59] <coops> this server image has nothing
[13:59] <blazemore> coops: Try #ubuntu-server for support with Ubuntu Server
[14:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: I really doubt you need to compile from source. would you kindly give me the info I asked for and I can probly get you going. I've done several broadcoms the hard way for myself and others, and I've gotten fairly good at it :P
[14:00] <aiten_44> coops: Yes the 10.x.x.x is correct if thats what you have it set as.  I'm starting to think that the settings are messed up that its not getting a ip automatically like it should
[14:00] <aiten_44> can you force an ip to eth1?
[14:01] <m_tadeu> is this the right place to ask questions about packaging?
[14:01] <blazemore> m_tadeu: Probably, go ahead
[14:01] <holstein> m_tadeu: if its relevant to the topic, just ask
[14:01] <mumpitzel> coops: when you are trying to log in via ssh to the guest VM, how is your virtualbox network settings for this VM?
[14:02] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 ... [14e4:
[14:02] <coops> aiten_44: to clarify, trying to use a new server image, vs originally tried desktop image. trying to figure out as quick as possible how to get server to behave like that desktop image
[14:02] <mumpitzel> coops: you cannot log in if you use NAT
[14:02] <PashaPasta> coops: i.e did you config your VM to use NAT or a bridged adapter? You want a bridged adapter
[14:02] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: [14e4:4311]
[14:02] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, http://fpaste.org/22105/37268733/
[14:03] <coops> mumpitzel: Adapter1 attached to NAT, cable connected is checked, port forwarding rule set up to map a port on my host to port 22 on the guest
[14:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: hm.
[14:03] <PashaPasta> coops: you need to set for a bridged adapter
[14:03] <Boomboom> Hello i have little problems with installing realtek audio hd drivers... have somebody done it before and can help me a bit?
[14:03] <m_tadeu> if an application has a custom lib dir (like /usr/lib/myapp) to store .so files that are specific to the app, how should I proceed?if nothing is done, ldd doesn't find the .so files...adding the path in /etc/ld.so.conf.d works but, seems wrong by yhe debian specs
[14:04] <NSA_AGENT> how can i see how much memory an application is currently using , in the terminal
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> NSA_AGENT  with htop
[14:04] <coops> PashaPasta: i will try this but the prior desktop image worked fine 'out of the box' with NAT configured. also following instructions from gitian-builder (which is not your problem, of course)
[14:04] <janisozaur> i have exceed on demand instance that i use to connect to a remote system and launch X applicatons, but i do not have ssh connection. how could i copy files between the two systems? already tried using xclip with base64, but the files transferred that way end up being broken...
[14:04] <NSA_AGENT> thanks
[14:04] <Peyam> NSA_AGENT: processes
[14:04] <Peyam> okej
[14:04] <PashaPasta> ps -aux, top, htop
[14:04] <aiten_44> coops: "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up" try setting the ip address and see if that will give you an ip address you should be able to use nat
[14:05] <mumpitzel> coops: you can port forward any way you want: you need bridged to log in via ssh. VBox doesn't do a proper NAT
[14:05] <PashaPasta> virtualbox is el terrible
[14:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: do you have any sort of networking on this device?
[14:06] <mumpitzel> coops: where did you portforward anyways? where did you set up the port forwarding?
[14:06] <coops> mumpitzel: it will do it with my alternative image, but perhaps you are saying it's unreliable. I'm going to try your suggestion
[14:06] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: neither lan or wlan --> no
[14:06] <mumpitzel> coops: how did you set up the portforwarding? where?
[14:06] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: otherwise it would be quite simple I guess :D
[14:06] <Boomboom> Hello i have little problems with installing realtek audio hd drivers... have somebody done it before and can help me a bit?
[14:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: this is fine, but it makes things trickier :P
[14:07] <coops> mumpitzel: example command - VBoxManage modifyvm Gitian-lucid-i386 --natpf1 "guestssh,tcp,,2223,,22"
[14:07] <mumpitzel> thanks
[14:07] <ddssc> anyone knows a good alternative to remmina? it's been unusable for a year as per this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/1002363) and hasn't been fixed
[14:07] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: i know... spent like all day on that shit
[14:07] <coops> that actually worked for a 12.10 desktop image, was able to ssh in (and may yet fall back to that… ;))
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> m_tadeu  ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:08] <m_tadeu> MonkeyDust: cool....thanx
[14:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: lsmod | grep wl, is this module loaded?
[14:08] <rypervenche> ddssc: I feel your pain. I still use it, but when it doesn't work I use vncviewer.
[14:08] <coops> note: when i refer to 'image' i mean a fresh download of a free image from virtualbox.org (i.e. 'out of the box')
[14:09] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  "1" written behind... guess that means loaded
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: means 1 thing is using it, lol.
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: I'm assuming your using the default network-manager?
[14:10] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, im thinking about tricking this into using my local webserver to host the tarball (yes i have the tarball straight from adobe) and doing a reinstall, but this only helps me, and I suspect the guy who I was helping last night will hop back on later. This witchcraft wont work for him so I need a better solution.
[14:10] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  yes, which says "no network devices available"
[14:10] <ddssc> rypervenche: does it support shared dirs?
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: sudo rmmod wl && sudo modprobe wl, check now.
[14:10] <Boomboom> someone have time to explain me a bit hwo to install from script  ? : P
[14:10] <rypervenche> ddssc: No idea. It's VNC so I wouldn't think so?
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Boomboom: usually when you
[14:11] <PashaPasta> Boomboom: give a specific example
[14:11] <Peyam> Boomboom: what script?
[14:11] <ddssc> rypervenche: right didn't even notice. I need a rdp client tho
[14:11] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  error: module is in use
[14:11] <Boomboom> Peyam:  HD audio realtek
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Boomboom: usually when you're installing something not from the repos its a matter of ./configure && make && sudo make install.
[14:11] <aiten_44> coops:  I have a meeting in a few minutes I have to go to I'll be back later if your still having problems good luck
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: what prompted this?
[14:12] <Peyam> Boomboom: on ubuntu? what is wrong with pulseaudio?
[14:12] <Boomboom> strangely quite even when its put to the "maximum"
[14:12] <Boomboom> quiet *
[14:12] <blazemore> Boomboom: Install pavucontrol and use it. Check that the "PCM" slider is on full
[14:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> pavucontrol <3
[14:13] <aiten_44> boomboom: try adjusting with alsamixer in a terminal I found that I can turn my vol up louder that way instead of using the vol on the taskbar
[14:13] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  don't get it. theres nothing besides : Error : module wl is in use
[14:13] <Boomboom> i've put the slider to the max, still its missing about 20% loudness or something like that
[14:13] <lokmaan> howto install medibutnu on ubuntu 10.04.4
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Boomboom  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong... in one line
[14:13] <Boomboom> monkey can we talk private ? its just sliding fast in here
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: ok. I suppose you have some sort of internet connection, as we are speaking right now :P
[14:13] <Boomboom> my eyes just go wild
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> !eol | lokmaan
[14:13] <blazemore> While we're on the subject, does anyone know of a nice way to dynamically adjust the sample rate of Pulseaudio according to the maximum sample rate of the source file being played? Or should I just leave it on the maximum my DAC supports, and use speex 10 to just resample 44.1k to higher frequencies?
[14:14] <rypervenche> ddssc: Ah, what's wrong with rdesktop?
[14:14] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  yeah, this is my win-pc
[14:14] <blazemore> For example, if I'm playing a CD, it'd be nice to have it actually setting my DAC to 44.1k, whereas if I'm playing a 96k source file I don't want it downsampled
[14:14] <ddssc> rypervenche: it doesn't have a gui?
[14:14] <rypervenche> ddssc: Not that I know of.
[14:14] <Gnjurac> hi does anyone know how to applay size command while in terminal  --geometry=195x20+0+0
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Boomboom  keep it in the channel, if you go pm and the person leaves, you have to explain it all over
[14:14] <Boomboom> k
[14:15] <blazemore> At the moment I have pulse set to 96k the entire time, and it just resamples 44.1k, but that's not ideal
[14:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: go to packages.ubuntu.com/<releasename>/
[14:15] <Pici> blazemore: You might want to ask that in #ubuntustudio as well, they'll likely have a better idea of how to do that. :)
[14:15] <blazemore> Thanks Pici
[14:15] <coops> aiten_44: thx
[14:16] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  go ahead ;)
[14:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> and pick up the debs for dkms, fakeroot, patch, and bcmwl-kernel-source, and install them all with the sudo dpkg -i *.deb command ( you'll need a usb stick or the like to transfer them over)
[14:16] <Boomboom> i was missing about 20-30% loudness so i wanted to repair it with realtek hd audio drivers (i assumed it might work) , i downloaded it and everything was nice, i compiled as the .pdf instruction said the configure script but shows kinda error
[14:17] <CalvinKlein> ntzrmtthihu777: I haven't got a solution yet, over 50,000 people face this problem of mine and NONE has managed to found a solution yet.
[14:17] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  i kinda already went through all of this ;)
[14:17] <CalvinKlein> so if you kindly help me, I shall share your solution to other people aswell.
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: and they are installed?
[14:17] <foo357> Hello, I've got a ubuntu server where some process is stopping me from shutting down. How can I find out which process this is and how to shutdown?
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: htop is good.
[14:18] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  then I executed modprobe wl.... and it went processing kind of forever
[14:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: have you rebooted since?
[14:18] <foo357> ntzrmtthihu777: unfortunately it's not available
[14:18] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: reboot to like 300120 mio years... aborted after a while
[14:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: you cannot install it?
[14:19] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  didn't seem to proceed
[14:19] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, any other ideas? Maybe I should just search for a bug on LP and if not found create one?
[14:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: hmm. does your machine have a hardware wifi on/off switch? even a fn+fkey one?
[14:19] <CalvinKlein> ntzrmtthihu777?
[14:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: sounds like a plan?
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  fn -> no. switch yes --> using has no effect
[14:20] <Peyam> Hi my ubuntu people
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> s/?//
[14:20] <coops> mumpitzel: I am able to do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" which reads package lists, etc, but it's already installed. is this completing without going out to the internet via my host. it would seem so. I ask b/c the Desktop image was configured in Vbox, with NAT, and I was able to ssh in from the host and also successfully install several packages with apt-get, which went out to the internet to get them...
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: wlan light is constantly turned off
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: so you've tried the on/off already :P
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> or rather, off/on?
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  guess what :P
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: what?
[14:20] <Peyam> I wana give ubuntu a try BUT I 'm addicted to right click and see the applicationmenu like in XFCE. so is it possible in unity?
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: as I said. no effect
[14:21] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  ;)
[14:21] <foo357> ntzrmtthihu777: ok I installed it. It says:  "Tasks 7, 3 thr; 1 running"
[14:21] <Pici> coops: It doesn't need to reach out to the internet if the package is already installed.
[14:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: rfkill unblock all (may need sudo)
[14:21] <NSA_AGENT> is http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/  down for anyone else ?
[14:21] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: executed
[14:22] <coops> Pici: yah, it just tried ping (doh!) and it can't find anything. don't know how it would with no network interface besides <IP_ADDRESS> config'ed
[14:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: try finding whatever it was you used last and killing it with F9
[14:22] <Peyam> PashaPasta: I wana give ubuntu a try BUT I 'm addicted to right click and see the applicationmenu like in XFCE. so is it possible in unity?
[14:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: something with a large cpu usage/mem usage.
[14:22] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, can you pastebin you sources.list for me, I think I solved it but need to add an entry for 'updates' (I see there is a entry for a newer package <IP_ADDRESS>1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>)
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: you can have xfce in ubuntu, I use it right now :P
[14:23] <coops> looks like i'm going to have to install the desktop image again and do a side by side compare of config...
[14:23] <PashaPasta> Peyam: I hate unity almost as much as I hate winblows 8
[14:23] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah I use xubuntu now. but wana change
[14:23] <Peyam> PashaPasta: windows.. off to toilet.. gonna throw up
[14:23] <PashaPasta> Peyam: check out MATE...its an updated fork of gnome2
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816873/
[14:24] <opalepatrick> is it possible to configure the sites-available directory location? I know I can point at the alternative location in httpd.conf but a2ensite will only work on the one located in /etc/apache2/
[14:24] <opalepatrick> apache^^
[14:24] <Peyam> PashaPasta: MATe = wanabeWindows
[14:24] <PashaPasta> pffft
[14:24] <PashaPasta> that's KDE
[14:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: not true in the least, but whatev.
[14:24] <Peyam> KDE = too configurateable...ewwww
[14:24] <lgl> Hi, I just installed Raring on the new Macbook Air 6,2
[14:24] <NSA_AGENT> is http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/  down for anyone else ?
[14:25] <lgl> I have a few issues and also think I can help fix a few of them, with a little assistance
[14:25] <lgl> Is there a specific ubuntu/macbook channel perhaps?
[14:25] <Peyam> so is it possible to right click and se the applicationmenu?
[14:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: here, if you hate mate, gnome, and xfce, why not just ditch the de and run gui-less?
[14:25] <Peyam> in ubuntu?
[14:25] <suore> XFCE is best for ligh classical theme
[14:25] <lgl> NSA_AGENT: works over here
[14:26] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: I like xfce very much! It is simple and elegent. but I have a good computer and why not challenge it before it is broken hahaha
[14:26] <Peyam> suore: yes. Greybird theme is the nicest one
[14:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: why waste? I've got a decent machine, but I want it to work hard, not look pretty pretty XD
[14:26] <suore> and good for gaming, programing, editing... for all :D
[14:27] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: well I dunno. just want to try something new
[14:27] <arcanescu> im on ubuntu ketnel version 3.0.0-32 ... trying to run nm-applet i get Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon ..... and WARNING **: Failed to register as an agent: (32) No session found for uid 0
[14:27] <arcanescu> the nm just doesnt start.... any ideas what is causing then and how to get the nm to start?
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: any change?
[14:28] <Peyam> PashaPasta: ntzrmtthihu777 so what dist should I try?
[14:28] <PashaPasta> Peyam: debian7 :)
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: I'm quite happy with xubuntu, but the final choice rests with you :P
[14:29] <NSA_AGENT> lgl, thanks
[14:29] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: I ve been doing xubuntu in 3 years
[14:29] <Peyam> it is boring now
[14:29] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: it skipped right away to the next input line... no changes. I'll try a reboot
[14:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: you asked my opinion, I gave it.
[14:29] <PashaPasta> Peyam: then run crunchbang or arch and set it up yourself ;)
[14:29] <lgl> I have issues with Fn key, sound driver and isight on the new Macbook Air 6,2
[14:30] <foo357> ntzrmtthihu777: I can't find anything that should stop me from shutting down.
[14:30] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: and I couldn't be more thanksfull my freind
[14:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> :P
[14:30] <Peyam> PashaPasta: nääää. Arch , good choice if I want people to be chocked on my linux
[14:30] <lgl> I think I have the Fn key/media keys issue figured out (the keyboard has a new device ID) and I have an idea about the sound card but I need a few pointers
[14:31] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: it's again like stuck in the loading screen
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm.
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: which loading screen, exactly?
[14:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> ubuntu has quite alot that could be considered that :P
[14:32] <ddssc> anyone knows how to make shared folder in KRDC ?
[14:32] <Peyam> that ubuntu one. is it like dropbox?
[14:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: more or less. dropbox is pretty nice too :p
[14:32] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: the ubuntu loading screen, at startup
[14:33] <Peyam> yah.. is it free? that cloud thing
[14:33] <ANN-TechCoder> Google Drive now has 15 Gb free :) bettern then DB and SkyDrive
[14:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: ah, plymouth. press f1 I think, and it will show you background processes.
[14:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: you can see whats hitching it up
[14:33] <PashaPasta> ANN-TechCoder: ownCloud is better...if you've got a spare box around
[14:33] <Peyam> google makes me throw up.. they controll everything
[14:34] <ANN-TechCoder> owncloud is awesome! I use BytTorrent sync
[14:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: drobox and ubuntu one are both "freemium", they have a free service but they also have a better payed service.
[14:34] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, it worked, added precise-updates, reinstalled, and everything went the way its supposed to.
[14:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: glad to hear it :D
[14:34] <Peyam> I get 53 GB from dropbox . my university gives it
[14:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: heh, I've got 11.9gb, stretched from 2.5 in various ways :p
[14:36] <ANN-TechCoder> I have 30 GB in Google Drive by sharing the folder from my seco9nd e-mail that i dont use :) love the ways you guys get free space !]
[14:36] <ANN-TechCoder> ^)
[14:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ANN-TechCoder: wow, lol.
[14:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> I have a 332gb personal samba server I put together from free scraps :P
[14:38] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: I have a ~700GB HP DL380 I got for free
[14:38] <ANN-TechCoder> yeah, that is good. It comes with some extra digits on your electricity bill though
[14:38] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: my machines at home are named after aircraft manufacturers
[14:38] <gordonjcp> the DL380 is called Pilatus because it's such a noisy turboprop beast
[14:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: I could care less about the name, lol.
[14:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> ANN-TechCoder: i don't pay the electricity *muahahaha*
[14:39] <gordonjcp> even when you issue poweroff to it, it just shuts down to "ground idle" and is still the loudest machine in the room
[14:40] <pfifo> I named mine pfifo-laptop, cause its my laptop... im changing it to something cool now, i want to be 1337 too
[14:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: and you're bragging why? I never considered noisy to be a tech spec :P
[14:41] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: got to continue another time. thanks for your help!
[14:41] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: ah, I know the problem now. I changed the repository source to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/. and the 'apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop' finally completed in less than 1 minutes.
[14:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: sorry I couldn't set you straight.
[14:42] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: afterall, the problem seems in my previoius repo
[14:42] <ranjan> Hi all , is there anyone succesfully running ubuntu 13.04 on a HP DV4 Laptop.
[14:43] <matematikaadit> anyway, thanks everyone.
[14:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: np.
[14:44] <julian37> I'm using 12.04 and I have a custom script in /etc/init.d. when I run update-rc.d it appears to ignore the dependencies I set with 'Required-Start'. is it possible that dependency tracking is disabled and I need to set the priority manually?
[14:45] <pfifo> also, still getting a timeout error here if anyone can fix it, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cve
[14:46] <pfifo> julian37, if its an upstart script, it belongs in /etc/init/  if its not an upstart script then your using the old sysVinit method and shoul;d convert to an upstart script
[14:49] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: well, it's not going to live in the house anyway, it's getting tucked away in a convenient high site
[14:49] <julian37> pfifo: the facilities it depends on are also in /etc/init.d and not in /etc/init. do I have to convert all of them to upstart scripts for dependencies to work, or can I make it work with sysVinit?
[14:49] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: where my microwave links break out, so it can be a proxy server and RADIUS
[14:51] <NSA_AGENT> i just installed penguintv but when i try to launch it nothing happens. no error or anything. anyone have any idea whats up ?
[14:52] <holstein> !info penguintv
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: try running it from a terminal, the output may be useful
[14:52] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip,  i tried it just said command not recgonized lol
[14:52] <lmat> I'm looking for a server machine for small business. It will be mainly a file server, but also serve automated backup needs for employees, etc. What should I get?
[14:52] <pfifo> julian37, your deps are likely already upstart scripts and the old sysV scripts are there for compatibility... The old method doesnt use dependacies at all, you link your script to /etc/rcX.d (where X is the runlevel) and prefix the link with a S to start, K to kill, a number 00-99 and finally the name of the script. Then init simply runs the scripts in alphanumeric order. Upstart on the other hand uses deps to speed things up it can s
[14:52] <pfifo> tart mutiple scripts at once when the deps are resolved.
[14:53] <NSA_AGENT> command not found rather
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: use tab to complete commands, you can also grep the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications to see what command is ran, then run that
[14:53] <NSA_AGENT> i tried to install it again just to see , and it says its already installed
[14:53] <holstein> NSA_AGENT: run whatever command it takes to run the application, and see what the output is
[14:54] <halt> Hi all, I'm reading the help of the ssh here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Specify_Which_Accounts_Can_Use_SSH  and I'm wondering is there any way how i can limit the user login by login type, so A,B,C can login with they keys and D,E,F can login with they key and passord, is that possibel ?
[14:54] <NSA_AGENT> how do i figure out the command to run it, i dont see why it wouldnt just be penguintv
[14:55] <matematikaadit> i've done sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:55] <matematikaadit> now, how i start unity
[14:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo service lightdm start :P
[14:56] <zmoe> hi weiss jmd wie ich irssi per terminal starte?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> !de
[14:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> zmoe: schrieb irssi
[14:57] <jacki> when I'm trying to restart networking "sudo /etc/init.d.networking" I am getting ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816953/
[14:57] <julian37> pfifo: are you sure? http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot sounds like sysV can also support dependencies (presumably by setting the numerical priorities correctly)
[14:57] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: well, it just show my desktop now, no panel, no launcher.
[14:58] <julian37> pfifo: oh, perhaps using insserv instead of update-rc.d will work?
[14:58] <zmoe> danke
[14:58] <jacki> please someone help me. when I'm trying to restart networking "sudo /etc/init.d.networking" I am getting ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816953/
[14:59] <resure> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 and get
[14:59] <wachin_> Hi All
[14:59] <Peyam> jacki: ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory
[14:59] <resure> *installer freeze at some point. Log says it's "cd / && run parts --report /etc/cron.hourly"
[14:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: hm. reboot?
[14:59] <wachin_> I can a problem, some Wine App do not show the icon that is this for the app
[14:59] <Peyam> jacki: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1162288
[15:00] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: it's the second time i reboot my machine.
[15:00] <Peyam> wachin_: usb stick?
[15:00] <Peyam> sorry
[15:00] <Peyam> resure: usb stick?
[15:00] <resure> Peyam: yes
[15:01] <wachin_> No no is
[15:01] <pfifo> julian37, thats not something I was familiar with, but yes it looks like you have to enable the feature, which is likely disabled in ubuntu due to upstart
[15:01] <wachin_> Example PickPick, e-Sword,
[15:01] <Peyam> resure: make it again. use an other usb port! and be sure you using the right version. 64 och 32 bits
[15:01] <julian37> pfifo: that looks like it worked. but I think it converted everything to upstart automatically. so you're still right :-)
[15:01] <julian37> pfifo: thanks!
[15:02] <resure> Peyam: strange thing is that installation was done without any errors
[15:02] <bawank> hi
[15:02] <bawank> anyone may help me to check CCSM?
[15:03] <Peyam> resure: does it work?
[15:03] <Guest16776> Hi.I have  Dual Monitor and the title bar on the second screen (which i only use use for viewing stuff) is alway on top how can I change that behavior.thanks.:)
[15:04] <resure> Peyam: I mean before freeze. It fails on trigger of update-notifier-common
[15:04] <Guest16776> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:04] <Peyam> resure: does the operative system work fine? or have you not been able to install the OS?
[15:04] <pfifo> Guest16776, you can move it to the bottom, then logout saving session, and it should default to the bottom then.
[15:05] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: how do i choose what DE in login? I could logout, but whenever i login the top panel and launcher never show up. just the desktop background.
[15:05] <bawank> anyone may help me to check CCSM?
[15:05] <Peyam> resure: reinstall it and make a new usb. if it not works come back again!
[15:05] <resure> Peyam: ok, thanks
[15:05] <Stanley00> bawank: what do you want do check?
[15:05] <bawank> CCSM for dirconf
[15:06] <Stanley00> bawank: can you provide more details
[15:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: honestly I have not a clue atm. I know little about unity anymore, as I loathe it :P
[15:06] <bawank> i wanna check my notebook supported CCSM or not
[15:07] <bawank> to run compiz
[15:07] <Stanley00> then just install and test it. It's not that hard :D
[15:08] <bawank> nope, i mean before instalation, i'd check it first
[15:08] <bawank> i had some information : $ wget http://blogage.de/files/9124/download -O compiz-check
[15:08] <bawank> but it dosnt work for me
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> bawank  can you not try it with a live usb stick?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> bawank: what GPU do you use?
[15:10] <bawank> Ubuntu 12.04
[15:10] <Guest16776> How to change top panel behavior to not be alway be on top (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - Unity)
[15:11] <bawank> live usb? i dont understand
[15:11] <NSA_AGENT> i installed PenguinTV and cant get it to launch. when i try to run it from the terminal i get this error. could someone help explain whats wrong?  http://pastebin.com/AeeSFWfQ
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> bawank: you can run Ubuntu from a USB stick if you use unetbootin and the Ubuntu ISO you wish to use
[15:12] <Pei> is there an apt-get package i can download that will download all the development tools i need to compile programs
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: what is the output of:  sudo updatedb; locate run-mozilla.sh
[15:12] <bawank> i used wubi for dual booting
[15:12] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip,  one sec
[15:13] <pfifo> Pei, I usually install the 'build-essential' package
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: the error is pretty self explanatory, just read it
[15:13] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip,  i thought so too but im very new to linux (only 2 days) so i figured id double check
[15:13] <bawank> and i wanna to check about CCSM, my notebook spec supported or no, for compiz
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> bawank  how did you install ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:15] <bawank> via wubi
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> bawank  that not good, wubi is not a real installation, it's for testing purposes
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> that's*
[15:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> bawank: wubi is epic fail.
[15:16] <Peyam> hahaha
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: you may get no output, then we will need to make some symlinks to humour the scrip
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> *script
[15:16] <bawank> i see
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> wubi = will ultimately be inefficient
[15:16] <bawank> should i re-install?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot | bawank
[15:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes. you can test with the wubi install, but in the end you should have a real install.
[15:17] <qursk> guys i trying to create path for phonegap but i always get this error http://imgur.com/3IaqbZF
[15:18] <qursk> I have path the bin folder phonegap and later for cordova but getting this error all the time.
[15:18] <bawank> thanks a lot bro
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> qursk: why an image for text, pastebin is much faster
[15:18] <bawank> i'll try to re-install
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> qursk: do you need to make the folder you want to work in first at all?
[15:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: ./create means "execute file create in ./" which means current dir. obviously create does not reside in you home folder.
[15:19] <qursk> i understand so where should i path to ?
[15:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> where does the create file reside?
[15:20] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip, yeah i had no output. right now im installing firefox. just waiting for it to finish
[15:20] <qursk> ntzrmtthihu777: have no idea
[15:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: run "locate create" in terminal.
[15:21] <qursk> yes
[15:22] <qursk> i ve done but still getting the same error no such file or directory
[15:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: this will tell you the location of create if it exists on your filesystem. so it must not exist. where are you getting these instructions from?
[15:22] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip, can i PM you ?
[15:23] <pudge> exit
[15:24] <qursk> well lots of codes has flow in terminal
[15:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: what?
[15:24] <jacki> pfifo , can I ask you a question ?
[15:25] <pfifo> jacki, shoot
[15:25] <qursk> when i type locate create lots of codes has generated in my terminal
[15:26] <yown> My version of ubuntu is outdated, which version should I update to?
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: locate create | grep "/create"
[15:26] <NSA_AGENT> holstein, can you take a look at the pastebin im still having problems launching PenguinTV http://pastebin.com/AeeSFWfQ
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: 12.04
[15:26] <GunArm> is it possible, through ssh, to start a long running process (like a big rsync job) so that it won't terminate/die if the ssh session is closed or loses connection?
[15:26] <yown> Why that instead of 13.4?
[15:26] <holstein> !info screen | GunArm
[15:26] <jacki> pfifo ; I am running ubuntu 12.04 on open vz . I modified "/etc/net.../interfaces" but when I run "/etc/init.d/net... restart " I am having ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817039/
[15:27] <holstein> GunArm: run screen, then run what you want, and you can connect back into it
[15:28] <qursk> usr/share
[15:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: screen is da junk :D
[15:28] <yown> Isn't 13.4 is relatively stable and bug free?
[15:29] <GunArm> holstein: thanks
[15:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: because its supported 5 years (till 2017)
[15:29] <holstein> yown: they are all officially released. "stable" can be a matter of use case
[15:29] <yown> ntzrmtthihu777: That is only a reason if you don't plan to update for 9 months or more, and why wouldn't you want to?
[15:29] <holstein> yown: the reason to choose 12.04 over 13.04 is not "stablitly".. its the support cycle
[15:29] <jacki> pfifo ; ?!
[15:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: because experience tells me that updating usually goes badly.
[15:30] <Vec_> Hey guys, i'm trying to swap a 160g disk containing the entire linux system with a new 320g disk. I want the exact same files/system on the 320g disk as was on the original 160g. Is this doable for a linux newbie?
[15:30] <matematikaadit> i've no idea what to do now.
[15:30] <matematikaadit> i've reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[15:30] <yown> holstein: Please elaborate on support cycle
[15:30] <GunArm> yown: why would I want to
[15:30] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: i prefer a fresh install... seems to take me much less time as well, though i test the upgrad paths when i have time
[15:30] <DJones> !cloning | Vec_
[15:30] <pfifo> jacki, do a stop, then a start, instead of a restart so I can track down where this is happening, pastebin the results
[15:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: anything is doable, my freind. easy is another thing altogether :P
[15:30] <yown> gunwant to what?
[15:30] <jacki> ok
[15:30] <yown> GunArm: want to what?
[15:30] <holstein> yown: 13.04 is suppported for 9 months.. 12.04 is supported for 5 years...
[15:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: same. which is why I say experience usually goes badly :P
[15:31] <GunArm> reinstall my OS multiple times per year
[15:31] <matematikaadit> what to do if unity panel, top-bar, etc doesn't show up?
[15:31] <holstein> yown: if you want longer support, you use the long term support.. if you want newer packages, you use the newer version
[15:31] <GunArm> just saying, some systems, especially servers, need to be heavily customized, and not "messed with" for as long as possible
[15:31] <yown> holstein: That doesn't tell me why you think I should choose 12.04 rather then choosing 13.4 and keep regularly updating
[15:31] <jacki> pfifo ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817051/
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: try alt+f2 inside the lightdm session and running unity-panel
[15:32] <Vec_> DJones: Does this copy EVERYTHING over? As in personal files, edited config files ect ect?
[15:32] <GunArm> yown: its up to you
[15:32] <Vec_> Basically i want everything to run as it was, except on this new disk
[15:32] <yown> holstein: Do you find upgrades break the system most of the time.
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: no.
[15:32] <holstein> yown:  i never said you should choose 12.04 over 13.04.. im stating why i think one would
[15:32] <DJones> Vec_: No, that would only install the same packages you had installed
[15:32] <yown> GunArm: That is a obvious statement you just made
[15:32] <Vec_> ntzrmtthihu777: Any way to do this? Like make a snapshot or whatever
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: I said that, lol.
[15:32] <babarhaq> Hi all , i m trying to map my laptop fn key to some key combination on my usb keyboard, can some one help?
[15:32] <GunArm> yown: its the obvious answer to your question
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: remastersys, clonezilla, there are a number of ways to do it.
[15:33] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: nope, alt+f2 doesn't work
[15:33] <pfifo> jacki, see now that worked... you got hit by exactly what it said, 'restart' is borked... Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces
[15:33] <DJones> Vec_: You would still need to copy all the files in /home over to the new drive
[15:33] <holstein> yown: i *always* try a live CD.. i see the live CD boot to the desktop on the *actual* hardware. if i choose to try and do an  upgrade, its after i hae my data backed up, so failure in the upgrade process literlaly doesnt matter to me.
[15:33] <GunArm> yown: no one is saying, "don't get the newer one", if that was "THE good advice" they just wouldn't release the 6 month versions.  so you are just asking about peoples opinions
[15:33] <Vec_> ntzrmtthihu777: maby the easiest way would just be to reinstall and backup my config files
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: sudo service networking restart is the best way.
[15:33] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: or... is it window manager problem?
[15:33] <holstein> yown: i find a fresh install takes me about 8 minutes.. and an upgrade, usually idealy finishes in under 5 hours
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: this, maybe.
[15:33] <GunArm> some of us prefer the LTS so we don't have to do big risky upgrades every 6 months
[15:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: no clue, as I said know little about unity anymore due to strong loathing.
[15:34] <holstein> it *is* a question of preference.. and its up to you to decide yown
[15:34]  * Vec_ ponders, brb
[15:34] <DJones> Vec_: There are a few suggestion  on http://askubuntu.com/questions/151127/how-do-i-move-copy-my-entire-ubuntu-system-to-a-different-hard-disk that may help
[15:34] <yown> holstein: So you prefer to keep upgrading, and if the upgrade breaks, you do a fresh install?
[15:34] <Vec_> DJones: thanks
[15:34] <jacki> pfifo ; thanks . but I still canot see my new configuration when I hit "ip addr"
[15:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: no. he prefers clean installs, as he clearly stated previously.
[15:35] <holstein> yown: i perfer a fresh install. i usually test the upgrade path, and report if there are issues, and still do a fresh install after that completes
[15:35] <jacki> pfifo ; I had configured venet0:0 and it is not in the result !!
[15:35] <yown> holstein: It is a matter of informed decision, I am looking for the information, not to be told the obvious, that it is my choice...
[15:35] <pfifo> jacki, pastebin 'cat /etc/networking/interfaces && ip addr && ifconfig'
[15:35] <holstein> yown: this *is* the information.. if you prefer long term support, get the long term support.. if you prefer newer packages, get the newer version.. each has its unique pros and cons
[15:36] <yown> holstein: And what are those pros and cons
[15:36] <GunArm> yown: you asked "what should I use" and were given an opinion and then argue about it.  we are not here to write you an encyclopedia article on the pros and cons
[15:36] <yown> holstein: Do the latest usually work well right "out of the box" so to speak?
[15:36] <GunArm> well enough
[15:37] <holstein> yown: the pros and cons are unique to each system.. the LTS has older packages, so thats a con.. the regular release has a shorter suppport schedule, which is a con
[15:37] <GunArm> they have gone through a beta cycle already
[15:37] <holstein> yown: nothing is hiding from you here.. its just a matter of getting one and trying it
[15:37] <yown> GunArm: A few is not a encyclopedia article, this is not a choice between extremes
[15:37] <jacki> pfifo ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817065/
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> yown  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff, it's up to you to decide
[15:38] <holstein> yown: try the latest.. if you dont like reinstalling, or upgrading in a few months, try the LTS.. try it live.. keep in mind, 14.04 should, and likely will be an LTS
[15:38] <pfifo> jacki, i suppose I asked for that
[15:38] <pfifo> jacki, pastebin 'cat /etc/network/interfaces && ip addr && ifconfig'
[15:38] <yown> holstein: By shorter support schedule, you mean the 9months verses the 5 years?
[15:38] <holstein> yown: you can try 13.04, see how the upgrade works to 13.10.. then do a fresh install.. *then* try the LTS, at 14.04.. and move on when you feel 14.04 is too "old"
[15:39] <holstein> yown: yes.. that *is* the suppport schedule.. one is long term, and the other is not
[15:39] <holstein> yown: is 5 years bettter thatn 9 months? its longer, and that is a fact.. better is a mattter of opinion
[15:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> short of something catastrophic in precise showing up before 14.04 hits I'm sticking with lts's :P
[15:39] <yown> holstein: Yes, but that matter is irrelevant if you keep upgrading since the next upgrade will come long before 9 months
[15:40] <holstein> yown: and that upgrading process could be seen as a con
[15:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> irrelevant it is not, all facts are relevant to your choice. emphasis on *your* *choice*
[15:40] <marcello> ciao
[15:40] <jacki> pfifo I did, wasn't it ?
[15:40] <holstein> yown: as you are asking.. 'what if it breaks?' 'how is it done?'.. these "issues" happen *much* less often on an LTS release
[15:41] <yown> ntzrmtthihu777: You might as well be emphasizing how the sun is hot, or that water is wet, please knock that off
[15:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: nope.
[15:41] <pfifo> jacki, its /etc/network, i told you /etc/networking oops...
[15:41] <GunArm> yown: are you a troll?
[15:41] <jacki> o ok
[15:41] <holstein> yown: is the LTS "better" thanthe regular release? better is a matter of opinion, but the fact is, one doenst need to upgrade the LTS as often
[15:42] <yown> GunArm: If you are not going to help me, at least don't rudely accuse me
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'll stop emphasizing the obvious when you start listening to what is said to you. you asked, we answered.
[15:42] <marcello> ciao
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> yown  you can stick with LTS for 5 years; with non-LTS only 9 months
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !it | marcello
[15:42] <jacki> pfifo ; I am having ssh to it , and the result is too long, and i cannot highlight it to paste it here , is there anyway I can copy the result ?
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> !it | matematikaadit
[15:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: my bad XD
[15:43] <yown> holstein: So when upgrading from one LTS to another, it is less likely to break then when upgrading to STS?
[15:43] <marcello> hello
[15:43] <marcello> help
[15:43] <holstein> yown: you should, as i said the other day, be prepared for breakage
[15:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> marcello: with what?
[15:43] <yown> holstein: Or do you just mean, more upgrades in general=more chance of breakage?
[15:43] <pfifo> jacki, actually yes, 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' then youll have the power paste script
[15:43] <pfifo> !pastebinit | jacki
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> yown  why do you think it would break in the first place?
[15:44] <PocketDog> Yown, I've been upgrading since Hardy Heron 8.04, I'm on 12.04 now. never had an issue after a dist-upgrade
[15:44] <holstein> yown: if you cant handle breakage, dont use an operating system.. get an appliance that someone else maintains. like an android phone, or something with a support contract
[15:44] <pfifo> jacki, the command changes  to this 'cat /etc/network/interfaces && ip addr && ifconfig | pastebinit'
[15:44] <holstein> yown: otherwise, backup your data for when *all* hard drives fail, such as yours.. and you will be prepared for any breakage from anything
[15:44] <yown> PocketDog:  MonkeyDust Because ntz and other have told me that it regularly breaks
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> yown  who or what is ntz ?
[15:45] <nasir> hi my vlc crashes when i put it in full screen. my brightness can also not decrease. moreover what app can i use to save power.
[15:45] <holstein> yown: *everything* regularly breaks
[15:45] <PocketDog> yown That's not my experience
[15:45] <pfifo> jacki, just take note it needs a working internet connection of course
[15:45] <holstein> yown: be prepared for breakage, and it wont matter. upgrades work. most prefer fresh installs
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> yown  does a car ever break? does it keep you from driving one?
[15:45] <symb0l> what amd/nvidia graphics card has best support for 13.04?
[15:45] <yown> MonkeyDust: ntzrmtthihu, person talking to me about this today and yesterday
[15:45] <PocketDog> normal updates can introduce problems *looks at goole earth* but distro upgrades are pretty solid
[15:46] <PocketDog> LTS ones, at least
[15:46] <yown> PocketDog: What is the difference between normal upgrades and distro ones?
[15:46] <holstein> the reason i dont like them is the time they take.. i find it much faster to just to a fresh install
[15:46] <zero_coder> i created an hotspot in ubuntu
[15:46] <holstein> yown: the disto one upgrades the distro
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> yown  how many opinions do you want, before you can decide?
[15:46] <zero_coder> but my mobile is not detecting that