[00:14] <pace_t_zulu> dobey
[00:14] <pace_t_zulu> try turning off the "expand" property of your panel
[00:14] <pace_t_zulu> then "killall gnome-panel"
[00:14] <pace_t_zulu> then turn expand back on
[00:14] <pace_t_zulu> then "killall gnome-panel" again
[00:17] <pace_t_zulu> dobey: you there?
[02:31] <rickspencer3> robert_ancell: hi
[02:31] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3: hi rick
[02:46] <rickspencer3> kenvandine_wk: check it out
[02:46] <rickspencer3> robert_ancell is a bot
[02:46] <rickspencer3> try it, it's pretty good at the turing test
[02:47]  * robert_ancell is a bot.  The real Robert is at the beach
[02:48] <rickspencer3> robert_ancell: what are good turing test questions
[02:48]  * rickspencer3 gets meta on the bot
[02:48] <kenvandine> yo yo
[02:49] <kenvandine> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/102212/f-spot-with-friends-mockup.png
[02:49] <rickspencer3> kenvandine_wk: in terms of blueprint for U1 photo sharing
[02:49] <rickspencer3> you might as well slap one together real quick
[02:49] <kenvandine> yeah... i think it would rock
[02:49] <kenvandine> and really help U1 shine
[02:49] <kenvandine> with some cool facebook integration
[02:49] <kenvandine> etc
[02:49] <rickspencer3> pitti and I will sort them out later, worse case is we don't accept it for UDS, but that doesn't mean it would stop your project
[02:50] <kenvandine> should i be creating wiki pages for each blueprint?
[02:50] <rickspencer3> kenvandine: so you're thinking FB friends for the contacts?
[02:50] <kenvandine> well... that and other u1 services
[02:50] <rickspencer3> or perhaps that could be plugable
[02:50] <kenvandine> yeah
[02:50] <kenvandine> any way we can get your friends
[02:51] <kenvandine> and LP can interface with them somehow
[02:51] <rickspencer3> like a list of checkboxes for different sets of contacts to share with
[02:51] <kenvandine> but in this mockup
[02:51] <kenvandine> if you had shared photos
[02:51] <kenvandine> i could just select you in the drop down
[02:51] <kenvandine> and i would see your photos that you shared
[02:51] <kenvandine> nicely integrated in the desktop :)
[02:51] <rickspencer3> and when a new picture was shared, it could rip a notification and use the indicator applet :P
[02:51] <kenvandine> sure
[02:51] <kenvandine> :)
[02:52] <kenvandine> and if you wanted to comment on someones photos
[02:52] <kenvandine> all the friends can see it... like on your wall
[02:52] <kenvandine> etc
[02:52] <kenvandine> like flickr meets f-spot meets u1 meets facebook
[02:52] <kenvandine> all on your desktop
[02:52] <kenvandine> and this could tie into the desktop content library idea
[02:53] <kenvandine> which has a blueprint
[02:53] <kenvandine> when are you and pitti reviewing the blueprints?
[02:53] <kenvandine> i wish there was U1 api docs... i have no idea how hard this would be
[02:55] <rickspencer3> kenvandine: there's a session planned for UDS on U1 integration
[02:55] <rickspencer3> so that might be a good time to discuss with them
[02:55] <kenvandine> i know
[02:55] <kenvandine> i think this is big enough for a separate discussion
[02:56] <rickspencer3> kenvandine - right
[02:56] <kenvandine>  i wish more people were working on u1 services already... but maybe that is me just being overly excited about cool stuff :)
[02:56] <rickspencer3> however, keep in mind that the desktop team will have *plenty* of work for Karmic
[02:56] <kenvandine> i know :)
[02:56] <rickspencer3> we're not really looking for more features to implement ;)
[02:56] <kenvandine> it would be quite a bit of work... i suspect
[02:57]  * robert_ancell can hear the crack of rickspencer3 s karmic whip already :)
[02:57] <kenvandine> but would really rock
[02:57] <kenvandine> imagine users never needing to backup their photos :)
[02:57] <rickspencer3> that
[02:57] <rickspencer3> s already supported with U1, right?
[02:57] <rickspencer3> just pop your photos in there
[02:57] <kenvandine> not really
[02:57] <kenvandine> yes
[02:57] <kenvandine> that part is
[02:57]  * rickspencer3 whip cracking noises
[02:57] <kenvandine> but not the metadata... like tags
[02:57] <kenvandine> etc
[02:58] <rickspencer3> hmm
[02:58] <kenvandine> and it requires you to put it in the right directories
[02:58] <kenvandine> etc
[02:58] <rickspencer3> are those your kids? cute
[02:58] <kenvandine> and of course doesn't do any of the social stuff :)
[02:58] <kenvandine> yup :)
[02:58] <kenvandine> thx
[02:58] <kenvandine> last weekend at the zoo :)
[02:58] <rickspencer3> those pants are going to be covered in grass stains and dirt in about 15 minutes, right?
[02:58] <kenvandine> yup
[02:59] <rickspencer3> heh
[02:59]  * kenvandine is still waiting for that mockup to sync to u1
[02:59] <rickspencer3> I'll be interested to see the blueprint, perhaps you could whip up some community energy around the project, or
[02:59] <kenvandine> maybe :)
[02:59] <rickspencer3> even interest the f-spot upstream devs to take a look
[03:00] <rickspencer3> alright, this is getting annoying ...
[03:00] <robert_ancell> You guys may like this.  My handy beta tester (my dad) was happy with the Jaunty upgrade because his built in wireless started working so he could chuck away his USB WiFi card.  He's had more stuff work every release
[03:00] <kenvandine> i'll try to get it done tonight... any minute my wife is going to hand the baby to me
[03:00] <rickspencer3> I can't figure out how to get evo to actually apply my filters
[03:00] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: awesome!
[03:00] <rickspencer3> after joining the U1 list thingy, I *need* my filters
[03:00] <kenvandine> ctrl-y
[03:01] <kenvandine> rickspencer3: in a week the bugs will be public... so you can be removed from the team :)
[03:01] <kenvandine> rickspencer3: it is nuts, sometimes there are hundreds an hour
[03:01] <kenvandine> i've been getting these mails since i started :)
[03:01] <rickspencer3> what does ctrl-y do?
[03:01] <kenvandine> runs filters
[03:01] <kenvandine> ctrl-a then ctrl-y
[03:02] <rickspencer3> yeah!
[03:02] <rickspencer3> I assumed they were automatically aplied ...
[03:02] <rickspencer3> like *every other email program ever*
[03:02] <kenvandine> well... i think they can be
[03:02] <kenvandine> but i hate that
[03:02] <kenvandine> i don't think it is the default
[03:02]  * calc notes that OOo 3.1.0~rc2 is now pending on a bunch of syncs
[03:02] <kenvandine> calc: long live gnome office
[03:02]  * kenvandine ducks
[03:02] <calc> kenvandine: heh :)
[03:03] <rickspencer3> calc: are you going to get that puppy ready for us before you start your OEM tour tomorrow?
[03:03] <rickspencer3> :)
[03:03] <calc> kenvandine: i'm hoping oracle creates the foundation later this year so we can fix the Sun braindamage
[03:03] <rickspencer3> get it into Karmic and don't look back :)
[03:03] <kenvandine> calc: that will take years... to convert that kind of braindamage
[03:03] <calc> rickspencer3: doesn't look like it will be done by then unfortunately unless someone wants to sync a bunch of packages for me
[03:03] <rickspencer3> robert_ancell: thaks for the note about your dad, btw, good to hear
[03:04] <rickspencer3> calc: you'll still have 20% time to work on it, I think
[03:04] <calc> kenvandine: they decided to essentially fork a bunch of java libraries which i now have to wait on a sync for :\
[03:04] <rickspencer3> 20% of 80 hours is 25 hours, so really, no problems
[03:04] <calc> ok
[03:04] <kenvandine> :/
[03:04] <kenvandine> hehe
[03:04] <calc> haha
[03:04] <kenvandine> rickspencer3: that isn't enough to maintain OOo
[03:04] <calc> ~ 80hr a week is around enough for OOo by itself yea ;-)
[03:05] <rickspencer3> kenvandine: ack, but I think for Karmic we might actually not want to do too much, let the dust settle with Sun purchase and such
[03:05]  * calc was putting close to that in for the past couple months anyway
[03:06] <calc> it has gotten much easier to get good quality packages by not trying to cram in the new OOo at the last minute though :)
[03:06] <calc> with intrepid and jaunty and we are now nearly caught up on bug triage for OOo :)
[03:07] <calc> it also lets novell do most of bug shake out for us with the new releases, heh :)
[03:07] <rickspencer3> calc: have there been any complaints from users about not having 3.1 in Jaunty?
[03:07] <calc> i think they try to line up their suse releases to be a few months after OOo release as well
[03:07] <rickspencer3> I wouldn't think so given that it's still in Rc
[03:08] <calc> rickspencer3: haven't heard anything yet... of course 3.1 still isn't even out yet, heh
[03:08] <calc> rc2 just came out this week
[03:08] <calc> they are planning i think to just throw whats there out as final next week... warts and all
[03:08] <rickspencer3> ug
[03:08] <calc> but there will be a 3.1.1 in a couple months that we will get in for karmic
[03:09] <rickspencer3> so we should probably get 3.1 into Karmic early, and hope we get good bug fixes from upstream while you are on your OEM tour
[03:09] <calc> generally .0 releases by OOo aren't very good, they are going to try to improve that this next cycle for 3.2
[03:09] <calc> yea
[03:10] <calc> i think i can probably handle the packaging aspect for 3.1 if some other people can help with the bug triage
[03:10] <calc> i doubt i can do both in 20% time, heh
[03:11] <rickspencer3> calc: right
[03:11] <calc> though it won't be as bad as this past cycle since i had lots of bugs to go through and verify and send upstream
[03:11] <rickspencer3> don't worry, we've got your back
[03:12] <calc> bug verification does take extra time for OOo since we have to have a good enough bug to reproduce it ourselves then test on Sun OOo, if it doesn't show up on Sun OOo then forward to Novell (if we know its not our fault), if seen in Sun OOo send to them, otherwise fix it ourselves
[03:13] <rickspencer3> calc: have you documented these practices?
[03:13] <calc> combined with the fact that most bug reports aren't very good quality initially it can take a while to triage bugs, :\
[03:14] <calc> rickspencer3: i think so, but i will check on the wiki and add/update as needed
[03:14] <rickspencer3> that would be helpful
[03:14] <calc> in the past i did ~ 95% of the triage so i did document it at one time but since few other people do it may be out of date
[03:15] <rickspencer3> calc: do we have to get 3.1.1 for Karmic?
[03:15] <rickspencer3> can't we just stick with 3.1.0, or will it be too buggy?
[03:16] <calc> 3.1.0 should be fine... but afaik 3.1.1 is expected before FF and is just a minor bugfix release
[03:16] <calc> the .1 releases are to fix bugs they didn't get around to for the .0 release (and newly found bugs as well)
[03:18] <calc> generally getting things working from a .0 to .1 release packaging wise isn't much trouble, getting the initial .0 working on Ubuntu can be a lot of work though
[03:18] <rickspencer3> kenvandine what about a U1 app that let's you share desktop wallpaper?
[03:18] <calc> i think i have 3.1.0 almost ready doing a test build at the moment, and need the packages synced for its build-deps
[03:18] <rickspencer3> calc: noted
[03:18] <kenvandine> that would be pretty simple i would think
[03:19] <rickspencer3> could the app that sets the desktop wallpaper be amended to look in a certain place and pick a random wall paper?
[03:25] <kenvandine> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-photo-ubuntuone
[03:25] <kenvandine> rickspencer3: yes it could
[03:25] <kenvandine> it could actually follow a rss feed (with some hacking)
[03:25] <rickspencer3> seems maybe simpler than the f-spot thing ;)
[03:25] <kenvandine> but not nearly as cool
[03:25]  * rickspencer3 is so subtle
[03:28] <kenvandine> ok... baby time.... later folks1
[03:29] <rickspencer3> 'night kenvandine
[03:29] <rickspencer3> good night all!
[03:29] <rickspencer3> see you tomorrow
[12:29] <maxb> How incredibly bizarre.
[12:29]  * maxb has found a 1-pixel wide line in xchat which appears to allow scrollwheel events to pass through and hit the desktop root window
[12:30] <maxb> the right edge of the channel list in treeview mode, ftr
[19:43] <calc> what was the default KDE in hardy, was it KDE 3.5 or 4.x?
[19:48] <james_w> 3
[19:55] <calc> james_w: thanks


[01:13] <xerosis> has anyone noticed the bug in kopete where received files stop at 100%?
[01:42] <xerosis> i'm off to bed but the question is the one i've asked in the last comment on bug 79468
[01:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 79468 in kdenetwork "Kopete file transfers from libgaim clients stop at 100%" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79468
[02:09] <lontra> !ndiswrapper
[02:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:16] <Grape_Juice> Works like a charm for me. :)
[02:17] <Grape_Juice> "ndiswrapper -l"  "driver present; hardware present"  Me= *does happy dance*
[05:01] <yuriy> http://vorian.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/stack2.png <- methinks kubuntu needs a new cover
[05:02] <Jucato> we're the only one that don't have people in the cover... since.. hm...   :D
[06:24] <jdong> :)
[06:24] <jdong> I can't take credit
[06:24] <Tm_T> hsystem-x: welcome
[06:24] <jdong> I took two other people's works and fused them together
[06:24] <jdong> but it's all in the spirit of free distribution right?
[06:24] <jdong> :)
[06:24] <Sleepy_Coder> Dang jdong!  Looks nice!
[06:25] <n8k99> purdy!
[06:25] <Sleepy_Coder> Where did you get the background?  And how did you do the shadow mirror of the text? :D
[06:25] <jdong> Sleepy_Coder: ask http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/54442119/
[06:25] <Tm_T> hsystem-x: so what was you were needing?
[06:26] <hsystem-x> nothing, until now.
[06:26] <hsystem-x> thx
[06:26] <Sleepy_Coder> *sets as desktop background*
[06:26] <jdong> lol
[06:26] <n8k99> i've been using hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 as a deli.icio.us tag
[06:26] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: good evening
[06:27] <jdong> hi Hobbsee :)
[06:27] <jdong> the internet's a fun place today :D
[06:28] <Tm_T> it's not
[06:28] <jdong> haha
[06:28] <ajmitch> s/fun/mindlessly stupid/
[06:28] <Tm_T> s/the internet's/jdong is/
[06:28] <Hobbsee> hi Tm_T, jdong, n8k99
[06:28] <jdong> :)
[06:29] <Tm_T> ;-)
[06:29] <n8k99> ^_^
[06:29] <jdong> lol
[06:31] <n8k99> hehe
[06:33] <hsystem-x> whis is the link to the kernel headers.
[06:33] <hsystem-x> what*
[06:33] <hsystem-x> sorry ...
[06:33] <Hobbsee> yay, forum crack
[06:34] <jdong> lol
[06:34] <jdong> I'm surprised 09f9 hasn't crapped all over the forums yet
[06:35] <n8k99> lol
[06:35] <Hobbsee> jdong: woot!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2576607&postcount=18
[06:35] <jdong> :)
[06:36] <Tm_T> sorry pals, but I don't get it
[06:39] <n8k99> just for clarity, who is management?
[06:39] <jdong> management
[06:39] <jdong> ?
[06:39] <Hobbsee> n8k99: it doesnt exist
[06:39] <Jucato> management = long pointy stick of doom
[06:39] <n8k99> right- just checking
[06:39] <Hobbsee> n8k99: well, it's canonical, for the developers paid by canonical
[06:40] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: yes it does, for the distro team who do the bulk of ubuntu-specific development
[06:40] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: i was getting to that
[06:40] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: I see you replied to the release quality thread as well
[06:40] <Hobbsee> n8k99: there's no "management" over the entire ubuntu developers"
[06:40] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: yeah.  with some sarcastic response, iirc
[06:40] <n8k99> so Jucato was right
[06:40] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: what a surprise
[06:40] <Jucato> :)
[06:40] <Tm_T> oooh nooo we don't have a heaad!!!
[06:40] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: cant see anything else of use to say...
[06:41] <jdong> Tm_T: you can't come out ahead if you don't have a head.
[06:41] <jdong> ha that was awful too
[06:41] <Hobbsee> i'm starting to put forward the line to the ambassadors - is it really worth your time and effort in getting these people into the real world, when they're perfectly happy in their forum world, which doesnt correspond to realit?
[06:41] <Tm_T> jdong <3
[06:41] <Hobbsee> *reality
[06:41] <Hobbsee> ScottK: haha
[06:41] <Hobbsee> ScottK: me too.  especially if i'm somehow the manager :P
[06:41] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: it provides entertainment for you
[06:41] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: how about being my manager, PAY ME!
[06:42] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: dream on
[06:42] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: only in small doses
[06:42] <Tm_T> or was it, MAKE ME PAY!
[06:42] <jdong> Hobbsee: so you complain about the forum reality and the effort to correct it simultaneously?
[06:42] <Jucato> I think one of the biggest misconceptions about FOSS projects is that people are assigned by some hypothetical leader/management on what to work on. It just reflects a common ignorance. I'm sure no malice is intended
[06:42] <Hobbsee> jdong: well, no, not really.  having seen the lack of change so far, i'm not sure if it's worht it
[06:42] <Hobbsee> jdong: i'm hoping hte effort works
[06:42] <ScottK> Good night all.  It's quite late here and I need to get to bed.
[06:42] <n8k99> Jucato: i hd that GCE when i came over
[06:42] <Hobbsee> night ScottK
[06:42] <jdong> Hobbsee: as do I....
[06:43] <ajmitch> there's a long way to go to educate people there
[06:43] <jdong> but it is a big job to undertake
[06:43] <n8k99> its only begun to dawn on me as i get more invovled
[06:43] <Hobbsee> Jucato: infinite developers, under a global rule.  yep
[06:43] <n8k99> how it _really works_
[06:44] <Jucato> Hobbsee: it also kinda reflects how information about these things are sort of one sided... I mean you'd absolutely have to be on IRC to actually find out the reality...
[06:44] <Jucato> or rather, how separate "worlds" don't really sync...
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true.  or mailing lists.  but  mostly irc
[06:44] <Jucato> (forums, IRC, mailing lists, even wiki)
[06:44] <ajmitch> ah, licensecheck
[06:44] <Hobbsee> actually, even the bugtracker would do a fair bit
[06:46] <Hobbsee> Jucato: subscribe to all 3
[06:46] <Hobbsee> actually, maybe not -discuss
[06:46] <Jucato> I have kubuntu-devel...  :)
[06:46] <Jucato> S/N?
[06:46] <crimsun> signal to noise.
[06:46] <Jucato> oh...
[06:46] <crimsun> the more hobbsees, the less noise.
[06:47] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:47] <ajmitch> the more hobbsees, the more pain
[06:47] <Hobbsee> there can only be one hobbsee!
[06:47] <n8k99> not if theyall show up with pointy sticks!
[06:47] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: indeed.  stevenk's already told me to poke you at uds.
[06:47] <Jucato> lol
[06:47] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: fix kdesdk kthxbye
[06:47] <Jucato> let's not clone Hobbsee please? :D
[06:50] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: why would stevenk want you to poke me?
[06:50] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: because i'll be there, and he wont
[06:51] <ajmitch> so?
[06:51] <Hobbsee> and it's about time you got payback from teh two of you poking me.
[06:51] <ajmitch> I never did
[06:51] <Hobbsee> sure sure
[06:53] <ajmitch> you sound doubtful
[06:54] <ajmitch> when are you flying there?
[06:57] <Hobbsee> tomorrow
[06:57] <ajmitch> you must be imagining things
[07:25] <Hobbsee> wow, so many specs..
[07:26] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: hm?
[07:27] <nixternal> ajmitch: I need to convert a c++ string to uppercase, and toupper is a no-no, HELP! you to Hobbsee, you know this stuff too
[07:28] <ajmitch> who not toupper?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: for ubuntu
[07:29] <nixternal> StockEval.cpp:93: error: cannot convert std::string to int for argument 1 to int toupper(int)
[07:29] <nixternal> string keyValue
[07:29] <jdong> nixternal: iterate over the string....
[07:29] <nixternal> that is my search string
[07:29] <jdong> toupper apparently only handles single characters....
[07:29] <nixternal> keyValue = std::toupper(keyValue);
[07:29] <Hobbsee> nixternal: use the ascii codes, add the correct number to each character of the string
[07:29] <Hobbsee> that's what i'd try
[07:30] <Hobbsee> no idea if it's the quickest - i only did first year c++
[07:30] <nixternal> jdong: iterate'in love ey
[07:30] <jdong> Hobbsee: pfft that's what toupper does
[07:30] <Hobbsee> ahh
[07:30] <jdong> :)
[07:30] <nixternal> ya
[07:30] <jdong> just more abstracted
[07:30] <jdong> you can add 'A'-'a'
[07:30] <jdong> :)
[07:30] <jdong> i mean subtract
[07:30] <jdong> but it's unnecessarily complex :D
[07:30] <jdong> nixternal: looks like you need a for loop over your string, do toupper on each term
[07:31] <jdong> nixternal: more hints: http://www.cprogramming.com/faq/cgi-bin/smartfaq.cgi?id=1043284392&answer=1046053421
[07:31] <jdong> they kind of answer your question, so treat it as a spoiler? :)
[07:32] <nixternal> jdong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18760/ that is the code in question
[07:32] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: there aren't that many sane & useful specs
[07:32] <jdong> yeah, you need another for loop...
[07:32] <jdong> that iterates over strlen(keyValue)
[07:33] <jdong> and replaces keyValue[i] =std::touppper(keyValue[i] );
[07:33] <nixternal> copy
[07:36] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: ture that.  when can people start closing the useless ones - or duplicates?
[07:57] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: if only it were that simple
[07:57] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:14] <nixternal> no need to iterate
[08:14] <nixternal> simple for...loop fixed it
[08:17] <jdong> nixternal: for loop was what I meant by iterating :)
[11:09] <alleeGutsy> Riddell: since today kdebase update I see the kde standard blue background for a short time before kde login and when user login starts.  The changed config http://paste.debian.net/26996
[11:09] <alleeGutsy> ... of latest kdebase
[11:11] <Riddell> alleeGutsy: maybe I forgot the postinst script
[11:13] <Riddell> no, the postinst script is part of kubuntu-default-settings
[11:17] <Riddell> it should be a conffile and ask you if you want to overwrite it
[11:24] <allee> Riddell: yes it did, that how I c&p the diff.  But for new installations it will not ask.
[11:29] <Riddell> allee: no it won't, but once you install k-d-s then the postinst will convert for you
[11:50] <Tm_T> bah
[11:50] <Tm_T> BAH
[11:57] <Riddell> what's up?
[11:58] <Hobbsee> the sky
[11:58] <Hobbsee> or the ground, if you're upside down
[11:58] <Tm_T> ok, one great news, I might get apartment <3
[11:58] <Tm_T> a HOME!
[11:58] <Hobbsee> woo!
[11:59] <Hobbsee> so the cardboard box will no longer be needed?
[11:59] <Tm_T> but my frustration is: how I define myself in "Ubuntu world"
[11:59] <Tm_T> I'm user? developer?
[12:08] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: hmmm.  what do you think?
[12:09] <Tm_T> I just don't know
[12:09] <Tm_T> I still don't know what word "friend" actually means
[12:09] <Tm_T> so, defining myself is not any easier
[12:09] <Hobbsee> friend?
[12:10] <Tm_T> yes, that was example of my difficultiesd
[12:10] <Tm_T> -d
[12:10] <Hobbsee> the answer is you're probably both
[12:10] <Hobbsee> ;P
[12:10] <Tm_T> hmm, propably
[12:11] <Tm_T> b
[12:11] <Tm_T> whatever =)
[01:17] <lucas_> Hi, I would like to report a prblem for the open office packages in feisty... the missing of openoffice base crashes other openoffice apps even if kexi is installed, installing openoffice base resolves this
[01:20] <lucas_> But when it crashes, I have no feedback form apport so I don't know where to post the bug report
[02:20] <Hobbsee> Riddell: troll on multiple channels.  no staffers, again.
[02:21] <Riddell> oh joy.  yes it is
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Jucato: probably.  been klined repeatedly
[02:21] <Tm_T> why I'm missing all fun?
[02:21] <Jucato> oh...
[02:21] <Tm_T> aaah that one!
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: see #ubuntu, #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-offtopic, #slug, and #kde-devel
[02:21] <n8k99> are we supposed to s/fun/mindless again?
[02:22] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: from those, I'm only in #kde-devel
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: and bye bye :)
[04:07] <bddebian> Heya
[04:44] <mhb> good afternoon
[04:45] <ScottK-laptop> good morning.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Which troll?
[06:05] <toma> ola
[06:06] <toma> was it ok?
[06:06] <Jucato> yep :)
[06:51] <DaSkreech> !info cycle
[06:51] <ubotu> cycle: calendar program for women. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-6 (feisty), package size 51 kB, installed size 444 kB
[06:52] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: thanks, that's exactly what I needs
[06:52] <Tm_T> -s
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Apparently it doesn't prevent AIDS
[06:54] <Tm_T> don't worry, already had it
[06:54] <Tm_T> err, I mean, awww
[06:55] <Tm_T> look, flying cow! o/
[06:55] <DaSkreech> !info mancal
[06:55] <ubotu> Package mancal does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:55] <DaSkreech> :-(
[06:57] <Jucato> no, there's nothing invented yet that will calculate/calendar your "periods", DaSkreech
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Yes there is
[06:58] <DaSkreech> !info kmoon
[06:58] <ubotu> kmoon: moon phase indicator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 175 kB, installed size 448 kB
[06:58] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:58] <Jucato> heh
[06:59] <DaSkreech> !info mencal
[06:59] <ubotu> mencal: A menstruation calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3-7 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:59] <jdong> WTF?
[06:59] <jdong> lol
[06:59] <jdong> I'm sure that's a very handy applet to put on a panel....
[06:59] <DaSkreech> kalendars are kool :-)
[07:00] <DaSkreech> I wonder if a calendar can be considered NSFW
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Other than the Ubuntu-calendar :)
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Which was kinda it's point
[07:04] <Tm_T> I hope we will see full set at some point
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Nope
[07:14] <DaSkreech> pretty much stoped it
[07:15] <DaSkreech>  I was talking with kwwii about having a community calendar of Kubuntu
[07:28] <nixternal> are they going to do the talks and everything like they did at Google?
[07:29] <nixternal> where everyone can get involved via SIP
[07:29] <Riddell> hope so
[07:31] <mhb> me too
[07:31] <nixternal> haven't heard anything about it, nor seen anything on the wiki
[07:47] <allee> Riddell: will there be a short UDS kubuntu irc meeting for the first time participants?  Like:   Make sure to have xzy ready on your laptop.  Howto add yourself to a forum/workshop.  What's a forum/workshop ;) ? ...
[08:00] <DaSkreech> yup
[08:00] <DaSkreech>  can't boot without kdeinit crashing
[08:03] <nixternal> that is supposed to happen
[08:03] <fdoving> tried a clean/new user?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Works fine with a new user
[08:13] <fdoving> then it's something in your config somewhere.
[08:33] <imbrandon> drive by spamming .oO( http://www.imbrandon.com/index.php/2007/05/02/sudo-apt-get-install-hd-dvd_playback/ )
[08:33] <imbrandon> shhhh
[08:35] <DaSkreech> EH?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: When did you come back to life?
[08:36] <imbrandon> i never died [..]
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Okie :)
[08:38] <Tm_T> imbrandon: err, does your friend use festival?
[08:38] <imbrandon> not sure what he used to make it
[08:39] <Tm_T> mind to ask? because atleast some of those are far better quality that I manage to get
[08:39] <Tm_T> s/that/than what/
[08:40] <imbrandon> (01:40:03 PM) Adam Ward: http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php
[08:41] <imbrandon> :)
[08:41] <Tm_T> hmm, tts!
[08:41] <Tm_T> I have seen that before :)
[08:42] <jdong> imbrandon: so yet another violated patent :)
[08:42] <jdong> yay!
[08:42] <imbrandon> heh
[08:43] <imbrandon> jdong: only 6 diggs , help me with your super powers to get more diggs hehe
[08:44] <jdong> lol, I wish there were digg superpowers
[08:45] <nixternal> imbrandon: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/tts/speech/6959555b2ca9c3fa7d2cde4dd0da207e.wav
[08:45] <nixternal> there you go
[08:45] <nixternal> hahaha
[08:48] <DaSkreech> .o0(No Russian? Chinese Even?)
[08:48] <nixternal> hehe
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Ubuntu still respects runlevels right?
[08:51] <Riddell> allee: we did have an irc meeting some time ago, but the format is all new this time so I'm unclear on details like you asked
[08:52] <Riddell> allee: I'd recommend having feisty on your laptop in a chroot at least
[08:52] <allee> Riddell: s/feisty/gusty/  ?
[08:52] <Riddell> if you're brave :)
[08:53] <allee> Riddell: not really feisty on laptop, gutsy in virtualbox.
[09:14] <DaSkreech> Someone wants to have the same kernel with two options in grub to run two differetn Xconfigs
[09:55] <bobesponja> hey
[09:56] <bobesponja> when I try to mount a media from media:/ in konqueror I get "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[09:56] <bobesponja> is there something I need to chmod -s ?
[11:43] <manchicken> I'm just gonna come out and say this... the Europeans have funny looking plugs.
[11:44] <manchicken> There, I said it.  I feel better.
[11:44] <Riddell> look much the same as Merkin plugs to me
[11:44] <Riddell> bit rounder is all
[11:45] <Riddell> british plugs still rule the world
[11:45] <nixternal> manchicken: haha!
[11:45] <nixternal> wireless electricity rules the world!
[11:45] <manchicken> Too right.
[11:45] <nixternal> I guess you would call that lightning :)
[11:47] <nixternal> OK, so what is a nice small project for Gutsy that I can work on? I prefer C++/Qt, but I need to start learning Python a little better anyways
[11:47] <manchicken> This agenda looks pretty good.
[11:47] <manchicken> nixternal: Fix adept bugs ;)
[11:48] <nixternal> no thanks, next project ;)
[11:48] <manchicken> btw, jr, the meduxa kubuntu spec that is linked from that agenda is 404ingf
[11:48] <Riddell> manchicken: don't they all?
[11:48] <nixternal> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
[11:48] <nixternal> How did everyone get my ATM PIN, and why are they publishing it all over the internet?
[11:48] <manchicken> nixternal: Nice.
[11:48] <nixternal> hahahahaha, manchicken that is from j1mc's blog post today
[11:49] <manchicken> nixternal: Yup.  that's the HD-DVD encryption key
[11:49] <manchicken> Or so I've heard.
[11:49] <nixternal> no really?
[11:49] <nixternal> what is this HD-ABC
[11:49] <nixternal> you know it is bad when my dad hops on the bandwagon. Anything that goes against Sony, my old man is all for it
[11:51] <manchicken> wow, this UDS agenda looks pretty full.
[11:51] <manchicken> I have a fear that my brain will be full by midday Monday.
[11:51] <yuriy> the times are UTC?
[11:52] <manchicken> Are the names there "assignments"?
[11:53] <manchicken> Or are those things that I should prepare for? heh
[11:54] <yuriy> oy guidance is on sunday