[12:01] <kitche> caliban: what do you mean by find iso 9660 file
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> caliban: that is a file format not a file
[12:01] <Kill_X> umask=007 as mount option is mostly sufficient
[12:01] <Kill_X> (00 because writing is disabled by the standard driver itself)
[12:01] <caliban> Jack_Sparrow, because, my cdrom cant be mount
[12:01] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, so what about your fstab?
[12:02] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, feel free to query me, too
[12:02] <kitche> caliban: why is your cdrom broken?
[12:03] <caliban> kitche, yep :(
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup      good idea to make a backup.....
[12:03] <caliban> kitche, i dont know whats happen
[12:03] <bmcfarli> /tmp/disks-conf-hda2 is its location in the drivers app
[12:03] <bmcfarli> but it needs to be mounted as a media....
[12:03] <bmcfarli> i think
[12:04] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, okay
[12:04] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, I'll open a query
[12:04] <caliban> kitche, just mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected
[12:05] <kitche> caliban: hmm there is a way but you have to use a live cd and it will be hard for someone not use to linux
[12:06] <Lord_Athur> hi all, I need to use a windows program for a mathematical homework(it's name is "Derive"). is there any similar version for linux?
[12:06] <caliban> kitche, sorry if i use live cd i'll never learn
[12:06] <Malnilion> Lord_Athur, have you tried running it under wine?
[12:06] <jpjacobs> Lord_Athur, there is maxima and yaca
[12:06] <jpjacobs> yacas*
[12:06] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, did you get the private message?
[12:07] <antonio_> salve
[12:07] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, if so, please respond :)
[12:07] <jpjacobs> and maple (but that's expensive proprietary software) also has a linux version
[12:07] <Lord_Athur> thanks, i'll try to install those programs.
[12:08] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, why sudo to copy fstab? ;)
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> force of habit...
[12:08] <Kill_X> ;)
[12:09] <Kill_X> well...
[12:09] <ganja_> hey, does anyone can suggest me any msn client? like, Gaim? can i download the Sim software by apt ?
[12:09] <Kill_X> he doesn't answer my query.
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> If a backup exists... it allows him to overwrite it with the current one
[12:10] <georgy> ganja_ : amsn and yes
[12:10] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, a backup is generally a good idea
[12:10] <ganja_> georgy, sim is better then gaim ?
[12:10] <Kill_X> but in my opinion, only at the source directory
[12:10] <sureshot> hey jack how are you
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Which is why I suggested it
[12:10] <georgy> ganja : I just use amsn for the msn stuff
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> fine sureshot
[12:10] <Lord_Athur> jpjacobs, are those programmes graphical ones?
[12:11] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[12:11] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I know... But I don't see why to sudo when copying to ~
[12:11] <davvs> how do i shut down the xserver?
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: I'm not going to debate it with you...
[12:11] <kitche> Kill_X: you have to sudo since a regular user can't read /etc/fstab or even able to copy it
[12:11] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I'm just kidding :(
[12:11] <redguy> davvs: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:12] <redguy> davvs: or kdm if you're using kde
[12:12] <Kill_X> kitche, that is definitely wrong.
[12:12] <davvs> thanks redguy, im using gnome
[12:12] <davvs> will it work?
[12:12] <redguy> davvs: gdm then
[12:12] <davvs> ok, thanks
[12:12] <bmcfarli> guys i am so confused
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Always gksudo nautilus....   noooooooooooooo
[12:13] <bmcfarli> allow me to switch irc client
[12:13] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, uh
[12:13] <kitche> Kill_X: well /etc/fstab is owned by root so it shouldn't be able to copy it at least that's how my system works but I know that users can read it but they can't do anything with the file
[12:13] <Kill_X> kitche, yes. and it got go+r permissions.
[12:13] <Samuli^> kitche, sure you can copy it to a folder you own.
[12:13] <jpjacobs> Lord_Athur, well, no, there is xmaxima, which is graphical, and proteus-worksheet a frontend to yacas which is still under development
[12:13] <Kill_X> kitche, which means everyone is able to read and copy it.
[12:14] <bmcfarli> I am sorry
[12:14] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, never mind :)
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> We can all agree there are more ways than one to solve most problems
[12:14] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, what client do you use currently?
[12:14] <Samuli^> I don't think there's one file you can't at least read.
[12:14] <bmcfarli> Dapper
[12:14] <rmd> anyone know how to turn off join/part messages in irssi?
[12:14] <Samuli^> by default of course.
[12:14] <kalif> kitche: anybody can read fstab - and copy it
[12:14] <bmcfarli> irc or ubuntu?
[12:14] <kalif> rmd /ignore * joins
[12:15] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, sorry, I meant what IRC client :)
[12:15] <bmcfarli> I was on Xchat
[12:15] <Kill_X> and now?
[12:15] <kitche> kalif: hmmm not on any of my systems they can't I have all the perms set up so only root can touch it
[12:15] <rmd> you are fantastic, kalif, thank you
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kalif: also depends on where they plan on writing the copy..
[12:15] <bmcfarli> now i am using Xchat gnome
[12:15] <bmcfarli> lol so the same thing I assume
[12:15] <kalif> Jack_Sparrow: true
[12:15] <kalif> kitche: strange
[12:15] <bmcfarli> what would a proper client be?
[12:16] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, look out for a thing called Kill_X on your right pane
[12:16] <kalif> kitche: why?
[12:16] <Samuli^> I'm curious about this too.
[12:16] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to make Firefox play streaming windows media videos?
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: wants to do it in private...
[12:16] <cafuego> SpudDogg: mplayer mozilla plugin
[12:16] <SpudDogg> cafuego, will look.  thanks man
[12:16] <lupine_85> Hello ladies and gents. Ignoring the complete lack of content and good lucks for the moment, i'd appreciate opinions on the potential utility of this site:- http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/wireless/
[12:16] <jpjacobs> Lord_Athur, that appears to be yacas-proteus here
[12:16] <georgy> SpudDogg : and w32codecs
[12:16] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I just want him to get that one non-confusing
[12:17] <Kill_X> is that a problem?
[12:17] <Thorrn4> SpudDogg, I kno that konqueror can use mplayer to play those
[12:17] <kitche> kalif: why not I don't want people to mess with fstab
[12:17] <bmcfarli> can  crash your system i assume
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> We dont want you to give him bad info that will kill_x...  :)
[12:17] <Samuli^> kitche, well they won't if they have no write rights.
[12:17] <Kill_X> so do it yourself
[12:17] <CromagDK> !edgy
[12:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> JUst do it in channel...
[12:17] <CromagDK> !schedule
[12:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:18] <bmcfarli> i could care less if it crashes at this point...i just want my hardrives....I can always reinstall
[12:18] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, well... is there a line with /dev/hda2 within your fstab file?
[12:18] <SpudDogg> cafuego, georgy, do either of you know the entire package name for w32codecs?
[12:18] <rmd> SpudDogg: w32codecs is the whole name.
[12:18] <Kill_X> if not, you would have to add one...
[12:19] <cafuego> SpudDogg: They're not in Ubuntu istef.
[12:19] <rmd> download easyubuntu
[12:19] <rummik> AAAHHH!!!one! i can't update packages! "files list file for package `libgl1-mesa-dri' is missing final newline"
[12:19] <kitche> SpudDogg: win32codecs
[12:19] <SpudDogg> rmd, when i sudo apt-get install w32codecs, there is none
[12:19] <lupine_85> no, w32codecs
[12:19] <lupine_85> it's in the PLF repos
[12:19] <lupine_85> !plf
[12:19] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[12:19] <rmd> thats because they are not in your repositories
[12:19] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:19] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, have you used mount to mount your partitions?
[12:19] <lupine_85> !repositories
[12:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:19] <rmd> SpudDogg: google easybuntu and use that
[12:19] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, you see?
[12:19] <Lord_Athur> thanks a lot, bye
[12:19] <bmcfarli> where is this mount that you speak of?
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> SpudDogg: Dont do that...
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[12:20] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, it's a program that let's you mount partitions.
[12:20] <inglo1> hey, I need help installing XGL, I know nothing
[12:20] <inglo1> would anyone mind walking me through?
[12:20] <rmd> Jack_Sparrow: I agree about Automatix, not about easyubuntu
[12:20] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, he does most likely get confused if X people want to help him.
[12:20] <Empty> GRRR WTH is wrong with my ubuntu install
[12:20] <rmd> The packages it installed are visible in synaptic and easily removed.
[12:20] <SpudDogg> Jack_Sparrow: Do you know how to make Firefox stream videos from utube, etc?
[12:20] <bmcfarli> ok, i could use that at this point...where would you suggest getting it?
[12:20] <Lam_> !ping
[12:20] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[12:21] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, just because everyone tells him something else
[12:21] <rmd> Automatix, however, is total crap.
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> easyubuntu has been vastly improved....  agreed.
[12:21] <rummik> how do i fix this? "files list file for package `libgl1-mesa-dri' is missing final newline"
[12:21] <sc0t^^> hello!
[12:21] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, that for, I'm used to solve problems within queries.
[12:21] <georgy> SpugDogg : deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free to you /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:21] <sc0t^^> anyone knows why my ubuntu only shows up half screen=
[12:21] <kitche> !xgl > inglo1
[12:21] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, just my $0.02
[12:21] <Empty> It's a dapper install on an ibm t42 thinkp[ad(ati mobility 7500 vid) and earlier this weekend it started randomly turning off the display
[12:21] <CromagDK> !pastebin
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:21] <davvs> what's ubuntu's libc development package?
[12:21] <eyequeue> Empty, i didn't see the thread earlier, tell us what the symptopms are and maybe someone can help
[12:21] <inglo1> I know what XGL is, I need someone to help me install it
[12:22] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, basicly you do: sudo mount /dev/hda2 (for example) where you want to mount it (/home/username/hda2 for example
[12:22] <eyequeue> Empty, ouch
[12:22] <Subhuman> inglo1, join #ubuntu-xgl
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: You can also understand some people can come here under the pretense of helping, take people to private query and fry their systems
[12:22] <kitche> inglo1: it should have gave you the link to help you install it
[12:22] <Empty> I am in it via ssh right now, and vncserver works too, just normal display is affected
[12:22] <inglo1> yeah, I can't figure out the link
[12:22] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I understand your concerns
[12:22] <eyequeue> Empty, let me ask this, what changed around that point it started happeneing?  any package changes?
[12:22] <Empty> and its affected for a brand new user so it's systemic
[12:22] <Empty> I updated
[12:23] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, the problem is... no beginner would be able to follow suggestions of 2 or 3 people at once.
[12:23] <Empty> Have not really installed much other than that... I added apache2 and some perl libs earlier last week but I doubt they'd hose vid/x
[12:23] <eyequeue> Empty, hmm, display issues are not usually my forte, but do you happen to know what packages were installed there that updated?
[12:23] <kitche> Kill_X: that's why they just listen to one but others can give suggestions
[12:23] <rummik> how do i add a final new line to the list file for the package 'libgl1-mesa-dri'?
[12:23] <eyequeue> Empty, agreed
[12:23] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I agree 100% that there are abusive users in here
[12:24] <eyequeue> Empty, also, there is half of me that wonders if this is a coincidental hardware issue
[12:24] <sc0t^^> my dapper only shows up in half screen and because of that i cant see half of the image because i just dont shows up
[12:24] <Kill_X> kitche, so how do they within a channel flooded with suggestions
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Some of us are regulars... we would not question an op wanting to take someone aside, especially when we are swamped...
[12:24] <sc0t^^> anyone knows whyis this happening?
[12:24] <Empty> eyequeue, packages updated included the kernel and the kernel mod package with the ati drivers
[12:24] <bmcfarli> lol guys, i can do all tasks at once, I am use to somewhat use to unix, the problem comes that my hard drive is mounted a a temp and not a media. any suggestions?
[12:25] <Empty> BUT my symprtoms are different from the other people having problems
[12:25] <secleinteer> hey, the ephpod page says that it's for windows and linux, but there's no linux download link. does anyone know where i can get the linux version?
[12:25] <Empty> and their fix did not fix my box
[12:25] <eyequeue> Empty, okay, hat is actually a promising thing, imo :)  you had, say, -25 before, and it went to -26 (btw, -27 is out as of today)
[12:25] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, mount --bind "directory where it is mounted" "new directory"
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: Post your fstab to the pastebin and supply channel with the reference number..
[12:25] <bmcfarli> pl
[12:25] <kitche> secleinteer: it's for windows only
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[12:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:26] <bmcfarli> ok
[12:26] <eyequeue> Empty, i would try booting to the last known-good-for-you kernel, see if that resolves the issue
[12:26] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I absolutely agree with you. I understand your principles perfectly.
[12:26] <secleinteer> k
[12:26] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, really, it doesn't matter where it is mounted, just change the directory.
[12:26] <secleinteer> i guess their page is just misleading
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Nothing personal I assure you..
[12:26] <kitche> secleinteer: their page says nothing about linux
[12:26] <inglor> hey, quick, what's the command to launch the text editor
[12:26] <secleinteer> look at their title
[12:26] <Empty> eyequeue, last known does nothing for me, nor does -27
[12:26] <inglor> like, what is the simple text editor called?
[12:26] <secleinteer> the title of the page
[12:26] <Samuli^> inglor, nano?
[12:26] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I am sorry if I just had corrupted these guidelines.
[12:26] <inglor> the nano gui
[12:26] <lupine_85> gedit? nano? kate? joe?
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[12:26] <lupine_85> emacs... ;)
[12:26] <secleinteer> "iPod for Windows (and Linux)"
[12:26] <kitche> secleinteer: their page only says windows
[12:27] <eyequeue> Empty, you ca do that manually from the grub menu, and if you find it does fix things, you can make it your default kernel with the "default" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and then sudo update-grub
[12:27] <inglor> the little nano gui
[12:27] <secleinteer> are you looking at the title of the page?
[12:27] <cpk1> vi?
[12:27] <Samuli^> there's few 'simple' text-editors for linux indeed :)
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> too many options...
[12:27] <inglor> not vi :/
[12:27] <Empty> eyequeue, I might just reinstall the older packages for everything
[12:27] <inglor> the gui one
[12:27] <inglor> that comes in default in ubuntu
[12:27] <kitche> secleinteer: yes but their page only says windows
[12:27] <secleinteer> ok
[12:27] <Samuli^> inglor, gedit?
[12:27] <Skif> Somehow, my timezone info has been corrupted; ubuntu now thinks Mountain time == UTC.  Should I try to reinstall libc6?
[12:27] <secleinteer> then is there another good ipod program that supports album art? i tried gtkpod and the album art doesn't really work
[12:27] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, did you paste your fstab to pastebin?
[12:27] <Empty> eyequeue, just FYI I am a senior admin on debian clusters ;) Just not so hot on the Xorg stuff
[12:27] <inglor> samuli^, yep, that's the one, thanks
[12:27] <eyequeue> Empty, i was hoping it might be something as simple as -26 misbahves with your particular hardware
[12:27] <sc0t^^> my image only apears half screen .... anyone knows why?
[12:27] <sc0t^^> ??
[12:27] <Empty> eyequeue, I was too ;)
[12:28] <secleinteer> the cover only appears for the first track of that album
[12:28] <eyequeue> Empty, thanks for telling me, it gives me a better feel for how to talk, lol
[12:28] <anime_wars> where would be a good place to learn about wine for a linux newbie?
[12:28] <secleinteer> does amarok's ipod support work with album art?
[12:28] <thetruth> i downloaded opera_9.01-20060728.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb   !  do I install it: dpkg -i opera_9.01-20060728.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb  ?
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !winehq
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winehq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <lupine_85> thetruth: add sudo, and you'r there
[12:28] <Samuli^> thetruth, yes. or use the gdebi.
[12:28] <eyequeue> lupine_85, symlink?  what to what?
[12:28] <Kill_X> anime_wars, depends on what you are planning to do with wine...
[12:29] <Empty> eyequeue, I think he thought we were talking *just* about grub
[12:29] <bmcfarli> yes but it was a while ago
[12:29] <thetruth> whats gdebi?
[12:29] <bmcfarli> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:29] <eyequeue> lupine_85, you're thinking in another category than i am, i suspect, broaden my perspective :)
[12:29] <Empty> eg ln -s /boot/foo /baz
[12:29] <anime_wars> kill_x, i want to run a couple of windows programs that I can't use on Linux
[12:29] <georgy> !gdebi
[12:29] <thetruth> ! gdebi
[12:29] <Samuli^> thetruth, graphical deb installer.
[12:29] <kitche> secleinteer: anyways ephpod sounds like it breaks ipods
[12:29] <ubotu> gdebi: Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.4ubuntu13 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 684 kB
[12:29] <lupine_85> I only caught the end of the conversation, but if the partition is being mounted in /tmp, when it needs to be in /media, why not use a symlink in /media ?
[12:29] <thetruth> Samuli^: ill install it
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: We need the reference number to find it..
[12:29] <lupine_85> Or did I miss the point completely? ;)
[12:29] <motin_> I have got trouble with connecting to WPA-SPK secured network.  Is there any debug log available that tells me what is actually going on behind the NetworkManager?
[12:29] <bmcfarli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23921
[12:29] <Samuli^> thetruth, you should have it by default if you're using dapper
[12:30] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, just one second :)
[12:30] <secleinteer> kitche: i used ephpod on windows for years and it never caused any problems. what did was winamp :(
[12:30] <thetruth> Samuli^: how I run it?
[12:30] <alex222> hey
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: we are not sure where it is mounted yet..
[12:30] <Empty> lupine_85, I haver vid issues
[12:30] <alex222> when i play movies they lag w/ XGL enabled
[12:30] <lupine_85> ah, ok
[12:30] <eyequeue> Empty, yeah, this hw issue is odd, but it certainly could have been a kernel matter, and i was hoping ... you tried running some older kernel, maybe -25, with no luck either?
[12:30] <Samuli^> thetruth, by typing gksudo gdebi I think. :)
[12:30] <kitche> anime_wars: you can try wine if you haven't already
[12:30] <Empty> eyequeue, right, no luck on that
[12:30] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, look for bmcfarli in the Recent posts section...
[12:30] <eyequeue> Empty, dang :(
[12:31] <Kill_X> I can't get a proper connection right now :/
[12:31] <Kill_X> H
[12:31] <Kill_X> ah
[12:31] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, got it:
[12:31] <Kalmm_> on an reiserfs partition , I erase with rm some important files , is it anyway to recover them?
[12:31] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23921
[12:32] <thetruth> Samuli^: doenst load
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I see it.
[12:32] <Kill_X> as I expected.
[12:32] <Samuli^> thetruth, well read what it outputs.
[12:32] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, try following
[12:32] <thetruth> Samuli^: To use the graphical user interface, right-click
[12:32] <thetruth> on a '.deb' software package in the file browser
[12:32] <thetruth> and select: Open with 'GDebi Package Installer'.
[12:32] <bmcfarli> ok
[12:32] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, first of all
[12:32] <Samuli^> thetruth. So.. do that then :)
[12:33] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, do you still have the terminal opened I told you to open some time ago?
[12:33] <bmcfarli> got it back
[12:33] <eyequeue> Empty, i'm out of ideas, myself, sorry
[12:33] <mumbles> how do i remboley login to a ubuntu comptuer ?
[12:33] <Kill_X> so press CTRL+X
[12:34] <bmcfarli> k
[12:34] <eyequeue> mumbles, ssh yourname@yourubuntumachine
[12:34] <Empty> eyequeue, NP, thanks for the effort :)
[12:34] <mumbles> sorry i should of said using vnc ?
[12:34] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, now enter 'sudo -s'
[12:34] <eyequeue> Empty, i wish it had been more fruitful
[12:34] <bmcfarli> now in root
[12:34] <eyequeue> mumbles, no idea, i don't use that
[12:34] <mumbles> ah right a googaling i shall go
[12:34] <Empty> eyequeue, Yeah me too ;)
[12:34] <] GoldenDragon> hi, I currently have 3 partitions on my HD, 1 with XP, 1 with Ubuntu, and 1 FAT32 Partition that I want to use to share files between the two systems.. can someone lead me in the right direction towards this end? =]
[12:34] <eyequeue> mumbles, good luck though
[12:35] <NthDegree> ] GoldenDragon, try mounting the FAT32 partition in your home directory
[12:35] <eyequeue> mumbles, while in google, look up "vnc over ssh" to make it secure
[12:35] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, first of all, enter 'cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.prehda2
[12:35] <Kill_X> '
[12:35] <bmcfarli> ok i already made a copy though
[12:36] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, fine
[12:36] <terlmann> Nthdegree?
[12:36] <NthDegree> ?
[12:36] <] GoldenDragon> how would I be able to do that? O_o I don't see it in My Computer(on ubuntu.)
[12:36] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, so, you are safe to enter 'nano -w /etc/fstab'
[12:36] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:36] <NthDegree> ] GoldenDragon, try adding the partition to /etc/fstab
[12:37] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, add a new line with:
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ] GoldenDragon: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[12:37] <NthDegree> you'll need to know what device it is e.g. /dev/hdd
[12:37] <eyequeue> goldendragon, i can't seem to type you nick here
[12:37] <foo> If I want to be able to ssh into my ubuntu box and do X forwarding .. I need to install X on the ubuntu box, right? or no?
[12:37] <] GoldenDragon> GD is fine =]
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: above your enter key..
[12:37] <eyequeue> goldendragon, be sure to use "defaults,uid=" in fstab for it
[12:37] <NthDegree> Jack_Sparrow ya so full of helpful scripts lol
[12:37] <kitche> foo: yes but it wouldn't show the full X screen it only does the applications
[12:37] <eyequeue> goldendragon, your uid is probably 1000
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ONly ONes I have personally written or tested
[12:38] <thetruth> Samuli^: it says cant install opera, needs Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[12:38] <] GoldenDragon> should I just use the Diskmounter?
[12:38] <thetruth> Samuli^: what can I do?
[12:38] <thetruth> Samuli^: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt ?
[12:38] <eyequeue> goldendragon, otherwise yhou'll need to use sudo for every single access of that partition, and i doubt that's desirable, heh
[12:38] <Samuli^> thtruth, wait a minute.. why are you installing opera from outside the repositories anyways?
[12:39] <Kill_X> bmcfarli: /dev/hda2[TAB] /media/hda2[TAB] ntfs[TAB] noauto,users,umask=007[TAB] 0[TAB] 0
[12:39] <foo> kitche: right... so I do need to install x. hm, thanks
[12:39] <] GoldenDragon> so use that Diskmounter script Jack Sparrow showed me? okay =]
[12:39] <eyequeue> goldendragon, diskmounter is a fui tool?  i'm not familiar with it, but i'm not a gui guy
[12:39] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, use your tabulator key everytime I entered [TAB]
[12:39] <] GoldenDragon> it is just a script.
[12:39] <] GoldenDragon> i dont think its gui.
[12:39] <Samuli^> thetruth, If you have a reason to install deb from outside the repos, then yes :)
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Not gui
[12:40] <thedash> would there be any good reason why Azureus thinks my hard drive is read-only when it isn't?
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> three lines of instructions at the top of the script
[12:40] <mumbles> eyequeue done anything with terminal server ?
[12:40] <thetruth> Samuli^: but opera isnt on the repos
[12:40] <Samuli^> thetruth, I find that hard to believe.
[12:40] <eyequeue> mumbles, no i use ssh myself
[12:40] <] GoldenDragon> ahh wait, I've definately used this script before..
[12:40] <theBeno> kalif, You there?
[12:40] <] GoldenDragon> I still only see 2 partitions in my computer... Ubuntu and XP, not the empty FAT32 partition
[12:40] <starscalling> :>
[12:40] <starscalling> installing ubuntu on  my brother's lappy
[12:41] <bmcfarli> ok now save it?
[12:41] <eyequeue> goldendragon, even with sudo fdisk -l ?
[12:41] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, press CTRL+O and then CTRL+W
[12:41] <Samuli^> !opera
[12:41] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:41] <Samuli^> thetruth, it _is_ in the repos
[12:41] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, I forgot to ask: do you want to automount it at linux startup?
[12:42] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:42] <Samuli^> thetruth, you probably just don't have the right repositories enabled.
[12:42] <starscalling> but in my experience installing from repos sux
[12:42] <Kill_X> sorry
[12:42] <starscalling> :/
[12:42] <starscalling> follow the wiki
[12:42] <tiede> hi all. Someone knows how I can make the Debian menu appear? I am using dapper. I remember in Hoary and Breezy all I had to do was 'sudo apt-get install menu' but it seems that's not enough...
[12:42] <kitche> Samuli^: by default ubuntu hides commercial applications
[12:42] <starscalling> tiede, yeah easy
[12:42] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, then reopen fstab with 'nano -w /etc/fstab'
[12:42] <rukuartic> Hey there, I'm just having some problems with video codecs. I'm trying to watch a movie, and it used to work fine. However now, all the colors are messed up like its some psychadelic experience.
[12:42] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
[12:42] <starscalling> when it installs
[12:42] <lostinc> Is there a way to recover a file that I deleted and then emptied the trash can?
[12:42] <starscalling> update-menus
[12:43] <starscalling> then
[12:43] <rmjb_> tiede: run alacarte
[12:43] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, and replace the 'noauto' in the /dev/hda2 line with 'auto'
[12:43] <starscalling> killall gnome-panel
[12:43] <starscalling> and vua la there it is
[12:43] <bmcfarli> and do you not need to know the position of the partition
[12:43] <georgy> lostinc: no
[12:43] <rukuartic> lostinc: Not easily.
[12:43] <Samuli^> kitche, well, yeah. one needs to uncomment multiverse from the sources.list, I think.
[12:43] <starscalling> do those things in a terminal ok rukuartic ?
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: no
[12:43] <rukuartic> starscalling: Really thats it?
[12:43] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, after that again CTRL+O and CTRL+X
[12:43] <tiede> It's disabled in Alacarte
[12:43] <bmcfarli> ok
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: unless you get some hardware undelte utils
[12:43] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, done?
[12:43] <starscalling> yup
[12:43] <Samuli^> tiede, so enable it :)
[12:43] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: the feds can retrieve it
[12:43] <rukuartic> starscalling: Why's that causing the video to mess up?
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: so ask them ;)
[12:43] <starscalling> ?
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: non-free and commercial too?
[12:44] <lostinc> theTruth HOW?>
[12:44] <tiede> I meant it's greyed out. Can't tick the box ;)
[12:44] <starscalling> what does showing the debian menu have to do with the video messing up?
[12:44] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, now enter 'mkdir /media/hda2'
[12:44] <rukuartic> starscalling: I think you're answering the wrong person's question :P
[12:44] <starscalling> i think so
[12:44] <starscalling> lets take a look at yours
[12:44] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, umm, is there a repository called commercial or non-free? I thought that was what multiverse is all about.
[12:44] <starscalling> um
[12:44] <starscalling> ah
[12:44] <bmcfarli> k
[12:44] <starscalling> what are u using to watch the video
[12:44] <thetruth> lostinc: only a professional can get yoour file back!  unless you want to do it yourself which is complicated
[12:44] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, now 'mount -a'
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: IN synaptic you have those options to check as well..
[12:45] <lostinc> LOL I am willing to try
[12:45] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, any errors?
[12:45] <starscalling> what are u using to watch the video @rukuartic
[12:45] <rmjb_> tiede: even if you enable the submenus? In mine when I do that the Debian menu comes up
[12:45] <rukuartic> starscalling: Totem...
[12:45] <bmcfarli> ount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/hda2 busy
[12:45] <bmcfarli> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:45] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, ok, well I'm sure all it does is uncomment universe and multiverse from sources.list
[12:45] <thetruth> lostinc: are you an experienved linux user?
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> What format is that video..?
[12:45] <rukuartic> starscalling: Vlc and xine seem to be messed up too
[12:45] <rukuartic> Format's mpg, avi... pretty much everything
[12:45] <lostinc> Somewhat
[12:45] <bmcfarli> which it is....
[12:45] <tiede> The submenus are enabled, yes. It still won't show up rmjb_
[12:45] <lostinc> I certainly can follow instructions
[12:45] <starscalling> mm
[12:45] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm
[12:45] <lupine_85> e2undel works for ext2 partitions... dont' think there's anything for reiser, though :(
[12:45] <rcsolutions> Hey all, when I try to open the Firefox Preferences, I get this message: "XML Parsing Error: Syntax Error; Location: chrome//browser/content/pref/pref.xul; Line Number 1, Column 1; ttribute = "disabled";" and a "^" pointing to the first 't' of ttribute. How do I solve that problem? thanks.
[12:45] <foo> $ vncviewer
[12:45] <starscalling> what have you installed lately rukuartic
[12:46] <foo> Error: Can't open display:
[12:46] <mrbrdo> one question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, then umount /tmp
[12:46] <tiede> starscalling, I tried apt-get install menu menu-xdg but got nothing...
[12:46] <ofer> how it is possible to uninstall opera browser and install the new version? (already downloaded the new version)
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> School must have gotten out, we just got busy...
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, STOP
[12:46] <bmcfarli> pl
[12:46] <habakkuk> NthDegree: here?
[12:46] <bmcfarli> okj
[12:46] <habakkuk> ;]
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, DO NOT!
[12:46] <bmcfarli> ok it didnt work.....
[12:46] <mrbrdo> one question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?
[12:46] <starscalling> tiede,
[12:46] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
[12:46] <starscalling> it should install the menu
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, enter 'mount'
[12:47] <effer> help!  i've followed the HOWTO on installing the ATI drivers (had to reinstall them after a kernel upgrade), but when i do 'fglrxinfo', i'm still getting mesa! :(
[12:47] <rmjb_> tiede: well I'm lot now, sorry, but I'm new at Ubuntu also so maybe someone else here can help
[12:47] <NthDegree> habakkuk, what's the issue m8?
[12:47] <starscalling> then in that terminal do " update-menus " as regular user
[12:47] <starscalling> then
[12:47] <starscalling> killall gnome-panel
[12:47] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, there should be a line with /dev/hda2
[12:47] <rukuartic> Gonna reboot... brb
[12:47] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, what is it mounted on?
[12:47] <tiede> I DID do sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg starscalling... Do I need to do a killall gnome-panel too?
[12:47] <bmcfarli> /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:47] <tiede> I'll try it any way.
[12:48] <mrbrdo> one question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?
[12:48] <starscalling> yes
[12:48] <eyequeue> i hope everyone here has a short uptime!
[12:48] <starscalling> you need to kill the panels
[12:48] <NthDegree> yes i'm here Vanique :)
[12:48] <starscalling> they come right back automagically tiede
[12:48] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, okay: umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:48] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: which module?
[12:48] <Bend4rt> hey what's the best music player out there for ubuntu ? im used to using itunes on mac and winamp on windows ? any suggestions ? '
[12:48] <iceman24k> there a way to write to a NTFS drive, I can read it
[12:48] <tiede> I noticed that now the box is ticked in Alacarte, starscalling. Although I still don't see the debian menu...
[12:48] <lupine_85> and why do you need to rebuild it?
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Not advised...
[12:48] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: bcm43xx
[12:48] <eyequeue> Bend4rt, beep-media-player is nice
[12:48] <lupine_85> Bend4rt: amarok :).  xmms is like winamp, though
[12:49] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, after that 'mount -a' again
[12:49] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display:
[12:49] <Bend4rt> k thanks i'll check them out
[12:49] <foo> Any ideas?
[12:49] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i just need to change something in bcm43xx_main.c, that's all. i don't want to build a custom kernel just over that
[12:49] <Samuli^> Bend4rt, amarok is really cool. Rhythmbox is okay too.
[12:49] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, still errors?
[12:49] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow even moving a folder between the linux drive and the NTFS drive ?
[12:49] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: ok, if you can get the module source form their site, you can compile that... much easier than using the stuff in the kernel source
[12:49] <Bend4rt> ty
[12:49] <eyequeue> foo, it sounds like you are using vnc there
[12:49] <bmcfarli> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
[12:49] <bmcfarli>        missing codepage or other error
[12:49] <bmcfarli>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:49] <bmcfarli>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:49] <Samuli^> Bend4rt, amarok in gnome can draw a lot of kde-stuff with it though.
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Writing anything to ntfs is a problem
[12:49] <eyequeue> foo, are you starting from an X box?
[12:49] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: is there a way with using ubuntu stuff too?
[12:49] <starscalling> tiede,
[12:49] <tiede> ok starscalling, killall gnome-panel made it work.... I don't know why I had to do that, though..
[12:50] <foo> eyequeue: Yup. I just installed xserver-xorg
[12:50] <starscalling> thats the way it is
[12:50] <starscalling> ;p
[12:50] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: sure. Download the kernel source and go from there
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: THere is fuse and ntfs-3g... but... still not 100% safe
[12:50] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, so 'dmesg | tail' and paste the output to pastebin
[12:50] <eyequeue> foo, are you using ssh -X ?
[12:50] <rcsolutions> Is there anyone avaliable???
[12:50] <scarsofwar> holasssss
[12:50] <foo> eyequeue: yes sir
[12:50] <eyequeue> foo, those were my only 2 ideas, sorry
[12:50] <tiede> thanks a lot starscalling!!! And thanks to you to, rmjb_ !
[12:50] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: not possible to download from site - it says it's built into kernel
[12:50] <Samuli^> iceman24k, I think there's a program to write _safely_ to ntfs though. It uses the windows .dll's. Try google for it :)
[12:50] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: yes i have the kernel source, but how can i only update the modules now?
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Here is my fav link for the broadcom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[12:50] <scarsofwar> hello, i need hellp
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: or only this module, but not the kernel
[12:51] <foo> eyequeue: hm, thanks anyways. Anyone else?
[12:51] <bmcfarli> umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:51] <bmcfarli> sorry
[12:51] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow well that totaly sucks. makes me want a Fat32 install for linux. again
[12:51] <bmcfarli> NTFS-fs error (device hda2): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option umak.
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[12:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[12:51] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: well "make modules" will build just the modules... you can then copy the appropriate .ko files over
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i tried to change EXTRAVERSION so it matched my current version, but after i installed those modules, they were unloadable. i think linux-sources is different than my current kernel
[12:51] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, umaSk?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: I have a fat32 just for that reason.
[12:51] <lupine_85> I'm sure there's another way to do it, though
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i did make modules_install too
[12:51] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, I don't think that's the one.
[12:51] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow got the link thanks
[12:51] <bmcfarli> thats all it said
[12:51] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: you didn't want to do make modules_install ;)
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: but it didn't work, like i said.. it wasn't loadable
[12:52] <scarsofwar> sombody knows how install flex and bison and all their dependences
[12:52] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: so, i do make modules. what then?
[12:52] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, try umask, as i know for sure imak is not an option
[12:52] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, reopen fstab with 'nano -w /etc/fstab'
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> where would one get all those naked ubuntu wallpapers
[12:52] <bmcfarli> k there
[12:52] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow makes me wish i knew linux better, if only i could update winlinux 2000 to a new kernel and Ubuntu easy  :(
[12:52] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, replace 'umak' with 'umask'
[12:52] <lupine_85> just copy the .ko over - it should work, assuming you have the right source
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[12:52] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: and, do i need to modify the EXTRAVERSION to match my current version?
[12:53] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: it can't hurt
[12:53] <vicscandl> !webcam > vicscandl
[12:53] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, the hoary distro i think, "calendar"
[12:53] <bmcfarli> ok it mounted now
[12:53] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: because by default extraversion is .11-ubuntu1, but mine is -7-386
[12:53] <bmcfarli> restart?
[12:53] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: but, when i did that and make modules_install, it didn't work
[12:53] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, maybe it was warty?
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: That script is looking better all the time eh?
[12:53] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i don't see how it's different if i just copy the ko over
[12:53] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, are you able to access the partition as normal iser?
[12:53] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow heck even a Slackware build using zipslack and adding x, but it gets corrupt and missing files
[12:54] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, linux only needs a reboot for a new kernel (and there was one today, security)
[12:54] <bmcfarli> says i still lack permission
[12:54] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, don't you ever misspell something?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Hi, how did that trick on your cpu cooling work out?
[12:54] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: ?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: All ds time
[12:54] <eyequeue> i hope everyone here has a short uptime!
[12:54] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, I meant normal user :/
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Fat fingers typing way too fast
[12:55] <jojoman02> i think we all need the "workrave" package from repo's
[12:55] <bmcfarli> right i lack permission
[12:55] <eyequeue> !info workrave
[12:55] <ubotu> workrave: RSI prevention tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 635 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[12:55] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, umask=000 ?
[12:55] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, is it a fat32 partition or what?
[12:55] <lupine_85> hmm... presumably, you'll need to specify the appropriate linux-headers directory to build against, then
[12:55] <btete> wazzup! bro
[12:55] <iceman24k> I do like the DELL optiplex CPU fan for a 3 ghz P4 HT. what a fan.
[12:55] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display: Any ideas?
[12:55] <bmcfarli> no, ntfs
[12:56] <jbu> does anyone know how to edit a file through gedit as root while in ubuntu?  it says i dont have the required permissions
[12:56] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: how do i do that?
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[12:56] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i have the headers package downloaded
[12:56] <eyequeue> jbu, gksudo gedit foo
[12:56] <iceman24k> jbu sudo gedit the file
[12:56] <jbu> thanks
[12:56] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, then you should not have permission to write because linux really can't do that ntfs being a closed source file system and all that.
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: make a backup of any file first
[12:56] <jbu> ok
[12:56] <eyequeue> iceman24k, prepend gk if a gui app
[12:56] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?
[12:56] <iceman24k> jbu absolutle make a backup
[12:56] <bmcfarli> i do not want to write
[12:56] <bmcfarli> i want to read
yeah the noise aint as bad now excellent stuff man :D ...although I gota wait for ariapc to send me a new fan, no shops sellin fans in my local area
[12:56] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, that means you cannot access /media/hda2 from the gnome menu?
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: No.... gksudo for gui apps in gnome... kdesu for giu apps in kde
[12:57] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: u mean if i compile it myself?
[12:57] <bmcfarli> correct
[12:57] <starscalling> Samuli^, actually there are a couple ways to make linux r/w to ntfs
[12:57] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, ok, umask=000 should do just that.
[12:57] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, places?
[12:57] <starscalling> its just not the smartest thing ever
[12:57] <pianoboy3333> !src
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <starscalling> :P
[12:57] <pianoboy3333> !sources
[12:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:57] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: it's something about wrong parameters or broken.. something in such way
[12:57] <btete> Hi there Audrey! How are you? hope you're fine and doing well back there!
[12:57] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow heck sudo has always worked for me
[12:57] <Samuli^> starscalling, I know, but they're not preferable.
[12:57] <starscalling> agreed.
[12:57] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:it is already a kernel module
[12:57] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: so how do i build against my headers?
[12:57] <bmcfarli> it isnt listed under places
[12:57] <starscalling> to share windows with linux i personally use fat32
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: remember... that is a short term fix....
[12:57] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: yes but i need to patch it.
[12:58] <lupine_85> not sure how to do it with that source - their makefile is beyond me. But why not try this? http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: that can mess up permissions and really mess up your system
[12:58] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:why?
[12:58] <xenthral> Hi, how do I go about setting up a custom resolution for my desktop?
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: gksudo is safer
[12:58] <mrbrdo> because then i need to rebuild the whole kernel
[12:58] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, you might want to add read-only to your fstab options too, if you don't have that already.
[12:58] <eyequeue> iceman24k, it might fo the command, but it can hose the overall system
[12:58] <mrbrdo> and then i need to have problems with fglrx
[12:58] <mrbrdo> etc etc
[12:58] <jbu> (gedit:8170): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:58] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow whats the other command, i'll note it for my own learning, may be where i screw thing up . :)
[12:59] <jbu> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: working with root access always has dangers.. mostly from the user themself
[12:59] <jbu> i got this error using gksudo
 yeah thats why Im annoyed that i have to wait for ariapc to mail me a fan, and there prices are a joke
[12:59] <jbu> gedit
[12:59] <iceman24k> gedit
[12:59] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, open your filemanager and navigate to /media/hda2
[12:59] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:so, what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?
[12:59] <iceman24k> gksudo ?
[12:59] <eyequeue> jbu, are you doing this from your first-created user?
[12:59] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, are you able to open that directory?
[12:59] <bmcfarli> i did it has a big X on it
[12:59] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: no error, i just need to patch it for injection
[12:59] <jbu> eyequeue: yes
[12:59] <mumbles> argh this should of been easy
[12:59] <mumbles> :(
[12:59] <doug_> anyone know why I'm getting "collect2: cannot find 'ld'" when compiling c program?
[12:59] <eyequeue> iceman24k, gksudo is safe, sudo is unsafe it not a cli all
[12:59] <mumbles> i only want xdmcp support
[01:00] <Kill_X> so what the hell...
[01:00] <eyequeue> iceman24k, gksudo is safe, sudo is unsafe iF not a cli aPP
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: gksudo gedit   did not bring up gedit window...
[01:00] <matttail> hey there, I've got a question... in the ubuntu wiki for updating Firefox it says "There are two ways you can update firefox to the newest version.
[01:00] <matttail> The first way is to close Firefox and give your user (yourself) file ownership: sudo chown -R ${USER}:${USER} /opt/firefox Start Firefox normally and update (Help -> Check for updates...) Once the update is completed, close Firefox and then restore ownership to root: sudo chown -R root:root /opt/firefox Do NOT browse other sites while firefox has these elevated permissions, that is without changing back the ownership of /op
[01:00] <matttail> t/firefox over to root. Such a practice is not safe. "    Why is it not safe?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: You will see an error in the terminal window...
[01:00] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, at your /etc/fstab
[01:00] <iceman24k> noted, and may well be where i toast my installs
[01:00] <bmcfarli> yes?
[01:00] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, actually use umask=222 that gives everyone read and execute right's but not writing.
[01:00] <mumbles> Jack_Sparrow any luck with xdmcp in the past ?
[01:00] <cafuego> matttail: You don't want sites porribly writing to the firefox install directory.
[01:00] <jbu> jack_sparrow: yep...do u know what i'm doing wrong? i'm new to this
[01:00] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, at the /dev/hda2 line... what umask= did I tell you?
[01:00] <eyequeue> matttail, running things as root is bad bad bad
[01:00] <Kill_X> 002 or 007?
[01:01] <bmcfarli> 007
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: what are you trying to edit/change?
[01:01] <matttail> ok, thanks!
[01:01] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: xorg.conf, to edit my video driver info
[01:01] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, sorry... should read 002 - or 000
[01:01] <mrbrdo> well anyway, does anyone know of a way to rebuild only a kernel module and not the whole kernel? please
[01:01] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: did you look at http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt ?
[01:01] <jbu> in /etc/x11
[01:01] <iceman24k> jbu cant do a reconfig
[01:01] <kitche> matttail: if an app has a vuln then if you get that vuln running as root then the attracker can do anything pretty much to your system
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf                 but first use        sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[01:01] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: yes, it involves rebuilding the kernel
[01:02] <bmcfarli> remount? or is it fine?
[01:02] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: besides i think it does not work for .17, not sure tho
[01:02] <Samuli^> Kill_X, make that 222 because it's a ntfs partition. You don't want anyone to write on that (if it's even possible)
[01:02] <finalbeta> Lols, anyone uses xchat gnome? How do I get the users listed on the right?
[01:02] <finalbeta> Pressing the users button is a joke
[01:02] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, simply save your new fstab, then 'umount /media/hda2' then 'mount -a'
[01:02] <eyequeue> matttail, and something as bloated as firefox is never rootsafe
[01:02] <iceman24k> can you manualy edit xorg.conf to enable resolutions above 1024x768 ?
[01:02] <lupine_85> no you don't :). Read it again
[01:02] <doug_> anyone know why gcc is unable to find 'ld' when I'm compiling my c program, using gcc 4.0.3 in ubuntu?
[01:03] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: that's what i did the first time, but it didnt work, for some reason it worked this time.  Thanks
[01:03] <lupine_85> and it should work with 2.6.17
[01:03] <xenthral> I'm wondering that myself
[01:03] <Kill_X> Samuli^, write support is disabled by the kerneldriver as default
[01:03] <xenthral> how can I get a resolution like 1152x(something) ?
[01:03] <lupine_85> (those particular options are included in the .17 kernel)
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu:   np probably a typo
[01:03] <eyequeue> finalbeta, can you drah that riht line to make room for the userslist?
[01:03] <Kill_X> Samuli^, 002 will suffice.
[01:03] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: my card is not softmac, but fullmac
[01:03] <iceman24k> xenthral have you done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:03] <eyequeue> doug_, do you have build-essential?
[01:03] <finalbeta> eyequeue: no, i'm using xchat-gnome
[01:03] <lupine_85> hrm
[01:03] <bmcfarli> holy shit kill thanks
[01:03] <xenthral> nope
[01:03] <Kill_X> Samuli^, just in case he wants to switch to ntfs-3g some time O:-)
[01:03] <Samuli^> Kill_X, curious why you wanted to keep the last 2 :)
[01:04] <jbu> when you guys write the name of the user you're talking to on irc do you type it in or is there a shortcut to paste the user's name
[01:04] <xenthral> sorry I'm a linux newb
[01:04] <xenthral> what does that do?
[01:04] <lupine_85> well, building the krnel from source - or writing your own makefile - might be the only choice
[01:04] <eyequeue> !language > bmcfarli
[01:04] <bmcfarli> maybe i want to write to it
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: tab to complete
[01:04] <lupine_85> "make oldconfig" takes all the decision making out of kernel compilation
[01:04] <kitche> jbu: well you can press tab for an auto complete but I usually just paste the nick
[01:04] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, that for you may want to install ntfs-3g
[01:04] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: where should i find the snapshot of the bcm43xx module?
[01:04] <jbu> oh cool
[01:04] <jbu> kitche: o cool
[01:04] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: if i get that i guess i could do what that guide says
[01:04] <bmcfarli> yeah i wont, but thats why we left it
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: You have been warned about writing to ntfs... no crying when you lose everything
[01:05] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, but you should reconsider your permissions (the umask= thingie) then...
[01:05] <bmcfarli> ok
[01:05] <jbu> kitche: you can't just like highlight someones name in the list of users and then press a button and have that persons name appear?
[01:05] <doug_> eyequeue, yes I have build-essential installed
[01:05] <bmcfarli> 000
[01:05] <Kill_X> NO
[01:05] <iceman24k> xenthral do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that will allow you to manulay configure "x" but make a backup or xorg.cong first.
[01:05] <eyequeue> doug_, no idea then
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohhhhhhhhhh
[01:05] <kitche> jbu: nope but if you type in part of their name then hit tab it will auto-complete it
[01:05] <xenthral> ok, thanks man
[01:05] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 000 would mean everybody had complete access to the partition ;)
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> xenthral: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[01:05] <jbu> sweet
[01:06] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, use 222 just to be on the safe side.
[01:06] <eyequeue> jbu, see how this line is hilighted?
[01:06] <iceman24k> xenthral i'm no where near the expert. but can help with what i know, take the burden off the brains.
[01:06] <eyequeue> and this line is not?
[01:06] <jbu> eyequeue: yes
[01:06] <eyequeue> and this line is not?
[01:06] <mcphail> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg makes a backup automatically
[01:06] <jbu> eyequeue: yes
[01:06] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: any idea?
[01:06] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, consider the umask option to be inverted to normal chmod options...
[01:06] <mumbles> found it
[01:06] <eyequeue> oops
[01:06] <lostinc> Does anyone here have an A+ Cert
[01:06] <mumbles> one sec will past the link
[01:06] <bmcfarli> oh
[01:06] <eyequeue> jbu, anyway with 800+ in here, it's handy
[01:06] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 222 is like 555
[01:07] <xenthral> turns out I'm gonna have to try that out later, but thanks for the help regardless :)
[01:07] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 000 is like 777
[01:07] <bmcfarli> haha ok
[01:07] <bmcfarli> well i just want to read
[01:07] <Samuli^> you don't give rights, you take them away with umask.
[01:07] <starscalling> do te do te dummm
[01:07] <bmcfarli> so 666?
[01:07] <FlaX> Ubuntu destroyed my gfx ^^
[01:07] <iceman24k> Why when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try to get higher resolutions, X and gnome still only allows me 1024x768 and why cant i get a 1200X enabled ?
[01:07] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: see, that's why it will not work in .17, because .15 did not yet include that module (i think)?
[01:07] <FlaX> rebooted and then it died
[01:07] <FlaX> That's cute
[01:07] <mooney> actually the umask is the difference from 666 for files and 777 for directories
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Still running vesa or mesa driver
[01:08] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 222 should be okay...
[01:08] <jbu> hey all, i tried to mount my ntfs partition using "sudo nano /etc/fstab" but it doesn't show my /dev/hdc1 like it does in fstab...does anyone know what is going on?
[01:08] <starscalling> iceman24k, mm
[01:08] <Kill_X> so
[01:08] <bmcfarli> but cant i still write with 222?
[01:08] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow nvidia driver in.
[01:08] <starscalling> when you do this reconfigure
[01:08] <starscalling> you need to check higher resolutions
[01:08] <starscalling> did you do that
[01:08] <starscalling> after its reconfigged
[01:08] <starscalling> you need to restart X
[01:08] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, no, 2 is writing rights, 1 is executable and 4 is reading.
[01:08] <eyequeue> jbu, did you misspeak?  sudo mount /foo is more the command
[01:08] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, yes.
[01:08] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:so, what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?
[01:08] <starscalling> ctrl+alt+bkspace
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: sorry thought 1200x was ati.. doh!
[01:09] <eyequeue> jbu, whatever mountpoint is in fstab, not foo, of course
[01:09] <iceman24k> have restarted x, just the reconfigure fails to embed the added resolutions
[01:09] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, so if you just want to read and not execute scripts or programs, use 333
[01:09] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, but since the standard ntfs driver does NOT support writing in standard mode anyway...
[01:09] <bmcfarli> it goes r-w-x
[01:09] <jenny_b> can someone please help me?  i recently got the new kernel, and now my 3d acceleration doesn't work (ati)...i've followed the howto's to reinstall the drivers, but still, when i do 'fglrxinfo', i still get mesa!  please help!
[01:09] <bmcfarli> 1-2-4 No?
[01:09] <mumbles> eyequeue Jack_Sparrow - http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Enabling-xdmcp-in-tsclient-for-ubuntu is what i used
[01:09] <jbu> eyequeue: hmm im just telling u what the tutorial told me to do
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> mrbrdo: Please make a note of this link....  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[01:09] <Kill_X> jeez
[01:10] <Blissex> jenny_b: try asking in #ATI with specific error messages you get in '/var/log/xorg.0.log'.
[01:10] <starscalling> iceman24k,
[01:10] <starscalling> exit X
[01:10] <iceman24k> I can go 1152 x 768 but wand higher
[01:10] <Kill_X> I got to get to bed
[01:10] <Da_FBi> hello!
[01:10] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, no. 1 execute, 2 write and 4 read, okay? :)
[01:10] <starscalling> then do your reconfigure
[01:10] <starscalling> how high can your monitors go
[01:10] <lupine_85> bah, I give up. no  source anywhere but the kernel :(
[01:10] <Blissex> jenny_b: but note that very recent X servers may be too new for released ATI drivers.
[01:10] <joeandkrystal> can someone point me to a detailed guide on installing ati official drivers and explination of the commands to configure it ?  the opensource driver causes my system 2 crash
[01:10] <mumbles> how do i add that to the bot ?
[01:10] <Samuli^> man chmod, if you don't believe me.
[01:10] <starscalling> and do you have the correct driver in for your video card?
[01:10] <jbu> eyequeue: it wants me to edit the fstab
[01:10] <lupine_85> just build your own with make oldconfig and be done with it
[01:10] <Kill_X> Samuli^, Jack_Sparrow, can you take over? :/
[01:10] <jenny_b> Blissex, i've never had a problem before....and that file doesn't exist on my computer
[01:10] <eyequeue> jbu, sudo mount /foo mounts things, sudo nano /etc/fstab edits that file, not mounting anything
[01:10] <lupine_85> that, or write your own makefile for the source
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Post your xorg to the pastebin for people to review..   gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <iceman24k> starscalling have reconfigured, 15 inch LCD.
[01:11] <Kill_X> gn8
[01:11] <eyequeue> jbu, go ahead and edit it, but don't expect that edit command to mount anything :)  you need a "sudo mount /something" for that
[01:11] <iceman24k> !pastebin
[01:11] <starscalling> probably max is 1280x960 then
[01:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:11] <CromagDK> ATI stuff: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29
[01:11] <jbu> eyequeue: i've seen a couple of tutorials telling me to edit the file before mounting my partition
[01:11] <starscalling> select the 960 instead of the 1280x1024
[01:11] <starscalling> Distribution: testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.15-26-k7 X.Org: 7.0.0 Gnome: 2.14.3 Qt: 3.3.6 XChat: 2.4.5 Perl: 5.8.7 VGA: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1) @ 2560x960/24 bpp/50 Herz
[01:11] <starscalling> Soundcard: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04) CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP (2163.051 MHz) CPU-Cache: 512 KB RAM: 997/1010 MB Networkstats(eth0): Down: 3.7 GiB Up: 1.9 GiB Diskcapacity: 376 GB
[01:11] <Blissex> jenny_b: the non existance of the X server log is practically impossible. Ah, I mispelt it: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:11] <starscalling> see? i have to run dual 1280x960 b/c its just wierd like that
[01:11] <eyequeue> jbu, yes, but i'm tryinf to stress that an edit is not a mount command
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: what is the format of the partition you want to mount
[01:12] <fatbrain> How do I manuall install .deb files?
[01:12] <fatbrain> !deb
[01:12] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:12] <fatbrain> heh
[01:12] <jenny_b> Blissex, ok, i've got that open now...it's quite long, is there something in particular i should be looking for?
[01:12] <jbu> eyequeue: oh ok
[01:12] <fatbrain> silly me
[01:12] <iceman24k> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23929 thats my xorg.cong
[01:12] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: ntfs
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> dpkg -1 file.deb
[01:12] <eyequeue> fatbrain, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:12] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, s/1/i/ :)
[01:13] <Samuli^> people are surprisingly unaware of gdebi.
[01:13] <bmcfarli> thank you guys
[01:13] <Blissex> jenny_b: usually it tells you what's gone wrong towards the end. Error lines are prefixed with "(EE)"
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  is one of many ways
[01:13] <eyequeue> Samuli^, i see no reason for it, with dpkg :)
[01:13] <Da_FBi> I need help: Trying to use make command
[01:13] <bmcfarli> and your correct sam, sorry
[01:13] <shadox> hii guys
[01:13] <Samuli^> eyequeue, I know, but for new users.
[01:13] <shadox> i have a serious probleme and i can't find a possible solution :(
[01:13] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, no problem :)
[01:13] <jpjacobs> Da_FBi, install build-essential first
[01:14] <jenny_b> Blissex, this is the only one i got it looks like...(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[01:14] <jenny_b> 	No such file or directory.
[01:14] <Blissex> jenny_b: then everything is working all right :-).
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: you are correct
[01:14] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: i'm sorry i'm new to linux...this is a script right?
[01:14] <shadox> i can't log off my computer nomore neither cant' i reboot :s
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:14] <Da_FBi> jpjacobs: I'm a n00b
[01:14] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: i'im not sure what to do with this
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: click on file and save to your desktop
[01:14] <jenny_b> Blissex, but when i do 'fglrxinfo', it's still saying 'mesa'...and when i run glxgears, its not even moving....and everything worked _fine_ until i updated my kernel with adept
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[01:15] <Blissex> jenny_b: if it says 'mesa' then obviously the 'fglrx' driver and libraries are not properly installed.
[01:15] <jpjacobs> Da_FBi, goto synaptic, enter your passwd, hit ctrl-f, key in build-essential, select the package it comes up with, hit aply, done!
[01:15] <Blissex> jenny_b: odds are that you have to recompile the 'fglrx' kernel driver.
[01:15] <shadox> cane someone help me pls :(
[01:16] <marcagio> Anyone knows if the 3D issues with the ATI Express 200M has been resolved yet?
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: Did you set a root password?
[01:16] <jenny_b> Blissex, i've done it twice now :(  i wonder what i'm doing wrong.  i'm not getting an error message or anything.
[01:16] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: yes i did
[01:16] <linuchsan> shadox:sudo shutdown -r now
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: Bad idea...
[01:16] <Gekitsuu> Does anyone have any experience with edgy on an ibook g4?
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: Running as root user can really mess up your system/
[01:17] <ivx> what is the linux equivlant of msdos tracert
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[01:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:17] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow:  when i go to system => log off, the 2 options are disappeared :s
[01:17] <Blissex> jenny_b: no idea from here. Are you using the Ubuntu kernel and 'fglrx' drivers or the installer from ATI? If you are using the latter odds are it is not working.
[01:17] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: how to i execute it?
[01:17] <level> hallo i am totaly new to linux and i wold like to install skype in ubuntu
[01:17] <level> but how can i install a tar.gz
[01:17] <Gekitsuu> thanks
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu did you cd like I said..?
[01:17] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[01:17] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow:  had no problems till yet :s
[01:17] <Blissex> level: unpacket is somewhere under '/usr/local'
[01:17] <ivx> level there should be insturctions
[01:17] <Da_FBi> Thanks for your help!
[01:17] <Blissex> level: anyhow you can use the Skype '.deb' with ubuntu.
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: wait your turn and someone will see if it is fixable.
[01:18] <tailot> i have problem install an webcam?
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[01:18] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:18] <marcagio> Jack_Sparrow glad to see you again, I don't know if you remember me, I had problems with my 3D on my ATI video card... turned out that I found a forum where ppl were all experiencing the same problem with the 200M... :( I think no one is working on it either
[01:18] <tailot> !webcam
[01:18] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu Open a terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter
[01:19] <sess> got compiz xgl working
[01:19] <sess> seems that some of my opengl apps still run accelerated inside it :)
[01:19] <level> thanks i'l try
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio: Sorry to say .. low end ati are not a priority
[01:19] <sess> and damn does gnome look beautiful now
[01:19] <bmcfarli> jack what kind of card do you have?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia 6600 pci-e
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Mid range
[01:19] <eyequeue> sess, #ubuntu-xgl
[01:20] <tailot> could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection. <---- why?
[01:20] <Taorluath> hey does anyone here use gmailfs?
[01:20] <sess> eyequeue: Im already in there, I was just making a comment
[01:20] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: thanks a million
[01:20] <marcagio> low end ATI? I mean... it's kind of the hugest intagrated you get in a laptop... plus it uses 128Mbs sideport instead of shared memory... don't make me so sad I just wasted 1600$ on a laptop :(
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu where are you at with that?
[01:20] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: done
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[01:20] <eyequeue> sess, cool, just eanted to be sure you knew :)
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: are they on your desktop now?
[01:21] <eyequeue> !gmailfs
[01:21] <ubotu> gmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 136 kB
[01:21] <Taorluath> ja
[01:21] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: the shortcut isnt there but i can access it
[01:21] <Taorluath> it says something like, the host is wrong
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: restart x   ctrl-alt-backspace to see them on desktop
[01:22] <NET||abuse> hey, anyone know a good app to do up entity relationship diagrams?
[01:22] <starscalling> hey
[01:22] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: do that in the terminal?
[01:22] <starscalling> does anyone know if you can use all extended partitions for ubuntu??
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> close terminal...
[01:22] <starscalling> swap / and /home ??
[01:22] <starscalling> [running out of partitions on current device]
[01:23] <eyequeue> Taorluath, i keep meaning to create an account there to send my encrypted backups to :)  (duplicity)
[01:23] <eyequeue> !info duplicity
[01:23] <ubotu> duplicity: encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-8ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 420 kB
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: ctrl-alt and backspace at the same time will kick you out of here and restart x..  you will have to log in and all that..  they will be there next time you boot
[01:23] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install desklets
[01:23] <SuperMiguel> easy?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: YOu do not need to do it now
[01:23] <Taorluath> so can u like use gmailfs to run app files and stuff?
[01:23] <eyequeue> !info gdesklets
[01:24] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[01:24] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[01:24] <bimberi> NET||abuse: dia can do it, but the best i've used is called DBDesigner (Open Source but not in Ubuntu afaik)
[01:24] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperMiguel: gdesklets
[01:24] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, you need universe first
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !gdesklets
[01:24] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:24] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, you need !info in front for the packge info
[01:24] <eyequeue> !info gdesklets
[01:24] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[01:25] <SuperMiguel> so what do i do?
[01:25] <vdepizzol> will ubuntu come with easy-xgl-instalation? :P
[01:25] <vdepizzol> *ubuntu edgy
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperMiguel: system/admin/synaptic.....
[01:25] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, do you have universe repo installed yet?
[01:25] <Taorluath> bye
[01:25] <SuperMiguel> repo?
[01:25] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: it didnt show up as a shortcut on my desktop, and i cant right click the folder and add a shortcut of it...do u know what to do?
[01:25] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install gdesklets, if so
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: take it.. I need to take 5
[01:26] <eyequeue> !repo > SuperMiguel
[01:26] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, first see if you have universe repository enabled.. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  <-- mark that command and paste it in terminal window.
[01:26] <bmcfarli> hey guys how do you compile a .run file?
[01:26] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, np my friend :)
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[01:26] <Rawplayer> arrr
[01:26] <Empty> eyequeue, HAHAHA I just went to reinstall and guess what, it did it to the livecd too... Coincident HW failure it is then. Not great but at least no mystery
[01:26] <kitche> bmcfarli: you don't those are binary
[01:26] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, the bot told you how to enable that repo if you need to, but you may have done so last week :)
[01:27] <bmcfarli> ok...so what do i do?
[01:27] <eyequeue> Empty, bad news, but i always prefer something that's diagnosed over a mystery :/
[01:27] <SuperMiguel> ok
[01:27] <SuperMiguel> source open
[01:27] <SuperMiguel> what do i look for?
[01:28] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, the word "universe" on a line, that does not begin with "#"
[01:28] <marcagio> insomniak... on s'connais?
[01:28] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, if it does begin with #, tell me
[01:28] <jbu> hey all, i'm new to linux, can someone tell me how to put a shortcut/link to my mounted windows partition on my desktop? the 'make link' option isnt there...do i need to be root or something?  and how do i do that using the file browser?
[01:28] <SuperMiguel> the source list that i have is from automatix?
[01:28] <SuperMiguel> is that fine?
[01:28] <knowledgEngi> ciao
[01:28] <knowledgEngi> c' nessuno
[01:28] <knowledgEngi> ?
[01:29] <Samuli^> it probably is, supermiguel.
[01:29] <lupine_85> SuperMiguel: hopefully ;)
[01:29] <lupine_85> !it
[01:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:29] <Samuli^> supermiguel, try "sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data"
[01:29] <SuperMiguel> ok done
[01:29] <SuperMiguel> installed
[01:29] <SuperMiguel> but :A
[01:29] <Samuli^> well, now you have it.
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> when i try to open it
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu:  Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and check volumes_visable
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> it doesnt :S
[01:30] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, for future reference, you do have universe enabled, since that worked
[01:30] <stephen> !winetools
[01:30] <stephen> !wine
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:30] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:30] <Empty> eyequeue, Think it's still in warranty :D
[01:30] <stephen> could somebody show me how to install winetools on ubuntu, i cant find the proper repository
[01:30] <eyequeue> Empty, hehe
[01:30] <stephen> nickserv
[01:30] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, try typing gdesklets from terminal so we can see the error message.
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> People, play nice, see you all later
[01:30] <eyequeue> !info wine
[01:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[01:30] <stephen> !info wine
[01:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[01:30] <eyequeue> !info winetools
[01:30] <ubotu> Package winetools does not exist in any distro I know
[01:30] <stephen> !info winetools
[01:30] <ubotu> Package winetools does not exist in any distro I know
[01:31] <eyequeue> stephen, ^^^   wine
[01:31] <mcphail> winetools is deprecated
[01:31] <stephen> ok
[01:31] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [ ###         ] You need a recent version of PyGTK to run this program.
[01:31] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [      ###    ]
[01:31] <stephen> is there a version of wine that has a GUI, i remember one on Knoppix a while back
[01:31] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: actually it has already been checked
[01:32] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, well, that's odd it didn't pull the pygtk with it if it needed it.
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [ ###         ] You need a recent version of PyGTK to run this program.
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [      ###    ]
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> Error while starting gdesklets-deamon
[01:32] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, is your computer up-to-date?
[01:32] <stephen> eyequeue: is there a version of wine that has  a GUI?
[01:32] <marcagio> Kill Bill! Kill Bill!!! Hurray!!!! :D
[01:32] <eyequeue> stephen, no idea, i have never touched wine
[01:32] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, all updates installed?
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> wineconfig
[01:32] <ganja_> does anyone here uses dc++ ?
[01:32] <marcagio> I got drunk last week on wine
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> yep
[01:34] <stephen> anybody else here know if theres a wine with a GUI
[01:34] <SuperMiguel> what can i fo?
[01:34] <Samuli^> supermiguel, well okay.. try sudo apt-get install python-gtk2 python2.4-gtk2 python-gtk-1.2
[01:34] <mumbles> this is ammusing
[01:34] <renato> hey
[01:34] <lupine_85> winecfg
[01:34] <renato> i need help
[01:35] <renato> something happened to nicotine, and now i can't get it to open
[01:35] <ganja_> SuperMiguel, dc++ ?
[01:35] <jbu> is wireless internet access difficult in linux?
[01:35] <SuperMiguel> i did it but it doesnt connect to deamon
[01:35] <briguyd> jbu, depends on your chipset
[01:36] <eyequeue> jbu, it "just worked" for me, automatically, but some don't have that experience
[01:36] <georgy> jbu : depends on your card
[01:36] <jbu> ok
[01:36] <SuperMiguel> it says time out
[01:36] <briguyd> jbu, which card do you have?
[01:36] <eyequeue> jbu, mine was a laptop, ipw2200
[01:36] <jbu> like i have a usb adapter from compusa...i guess that's not a good thing eh?
[01:36] <renato> i was using nicotine, and for some reason i couldn't write in the rooms, so i decided to reinstall it using sudo apt-get remove nicotine and then apt-get install nicotine
[01:36] <jbu> usb wireless adapter*
[01:36] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install python-orbit? do you have that?
[01:36] <jbu> compusa brand
[01:36] <mumbles> i can see what my bro is doing on his comptuer
[01:36] <briguyd> you might get lucky
[01:37] <eyequeue> jbu, i was able to module-assistant one of those, a cheap one even :)
[01:37] <renato> and now it isn't opening
[01:37] <briguyd> ndiswrapper might work, jbu
[01:37] <jbu> ok
[01:37] <b14ck73425> hey everybody
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> yep
[01:37] <eyequeue> jbu, ~$40usd
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> i do
[01:37] <briguyd> hey b14ck73425
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: ndiswrapper should do it...
[01:37] <jbu> eyequeue: mine was 10 bucks...so i'm worried that there wont be adapters for it?
[01:37] <renato> i get this message when i try to open nicotine from a terminal
[01:37] <b14ck73425> anyone know anything about how to connect to a network computer
[01:37] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, I don't know what you need then.
[01:37] <eyequeue> jbu, find out the chipset, then google
[01:37] <jbu> eyequeue: i'll see..
[01:37] <briguyd> jbu, with ndiswrapper, you just need the windows driver
[01:37] <renato> Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: No I am not really here... I am a figment of your imagination
[01:38] <SuperMiguel> thank you any ways
[01:38] <renato> can anyone help me on this?
[01:38] <lupine_85> jbu: do you have any idea what the chipset is?
[01:38] <jbu> on what
[01:39] <jbu> lupine_85: on what
[01:39] <SiCuTDeUx> Hi!
[01:39] <jbu> lupine_85: of what, rather
[01:39] <Samuli^> supermiguel, the gdesklets are a pain anyways :)
[01:39] <lupine_85> on the usb wlan device
[01:39] <Languid> anyone know why, even though gnome-keybinding-properties understands my multimedia keys, only the volume up/down/mute buttons work, play/pause/next/stop/previous dont work in anything (amarok, totem, etc)
[01:39] <jbu> lupine_85: no i dont
[01:39] <briguyd> jbu, type lsusb into the terminal
[01:39] <SiCuTDeUx> how can i set a hot key in my gnome
[01:39] <briguyd> and find whatever looks likely to be a wireless card
[01:39] <Samuli^> SiCuTDeUx, system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts..
[01:40] <lupine_85> model number? Brand name? anything?
[01:40] <SiCuTDeUx> i want to use the wifi buttom to every time i push it reload the bcm43xx module
[01:40] <renato> anyone? please, can someone help me?
[01:40] <jbu> briguyd: zyDas 802.11b/g usb2 wifi
[01:40] <SiCuTDeUx> Samuli^: not like that
[01:40] <lupine_85> zydas should work out of the box
[01:40] <SiCuTDeUx> Samuli^: i want to use my wifi buttom
[01:41] <mumbles> Jack_Sparrow is there any way i can send a message to a ubuntu machene ? and have it pop up on the screen ?
[01:41] <briguyd> jbu, http://linux-lc100020.sourceforge.net/
[01:41] <Samuli^> SiCuTDeUx, ok, I don't know anything about that.
[01:41] <lupine_85> lsmod |grep zd and see if it shows a loaded module... if not, "sudo modprobe zd1211"
[01:41] <jbu> briguyd: thanks
[01:41] <renato> please, anyone, give me something
[01:41] <cafuego> SiCuTDeUx: I don't think the bcm43xx driver is stable enough yet to do that, even if you did find out the acpi event that enables/disbales it.
[01:41] <renato> at least a "no, i can't help u"
[01:41] <briguyd> jbu, in summary, looks pretty good for you
[01:41] <SiCuTDeUx> cafuego: spanish?
[01:42] <cafuego> SiCuTDeUx: nederlands
[01:42] <briguyd> jbu, in particualr, pay attention to the red part
[01:42] <b14ck73425> ERRSRV - ERRmsgoff what the hell is this
[01:42] <lupine_85> for(n=0;n<865;n++) {printf("no, I can't help you");};
[01:42] <Samuli^> renato, for one, It's not very cool to use kde-apps in gnome :)
[01:42] <SiCuTDeUx> cafuego: dmesg show something wen i use iit
[01:43] <jbu> briguyd: "Now it is part of the main kernel tree as of 2.6.12. "?
[01:43] <sgruber> is there a way to write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition
[01:43] <funkja> What is a good music player that has an audio library function built in besides Rythmnbox?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: Some are ok K3B  Konversation..... others simply will not work
[01:43] <lupine_85>  jbu: module zd1211
[01:43] <FluxD> xmms funkja
[01:43] <kitche> funkja: amarok banshee
[01:43] <cafuego> b14ck73425: /usr/include/linux/smbno.h:#define ERRSRV 0x02 /* Error is generated by the server network file manager.*/
[01:43] <lupine_85> is it loaded?
[01:43] <stephen> where is my wine config file located
[01:43] <renatoborghi> hey
[01:43] <b14ck73425> so what does that mean
[01:43] <renatoborghi> can anyone help me?
[01:43] <georgy> stephen : /home/user/;wine
[01:43] <b14ck73425> and how do i fix it
[01:43] <renatoborghi> i'm having a problem opening nicotine
[01:43] <b14ck73425> please :)
[01:43] <cafuego> b14ck73425: It means an erorr happened on the network file server.
[01:44] <b14ck73425> right...
[01:44] <georgy> stephen /.wine*
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> stephen: try in #winehq
[01:44] <lupine_85> hmm, in 2.6.17 it's turned into zd1211rw -- wonder what the difference is
[01:44] <briguyd> jbu, yeah, that line
[01:44] <cafuego> b14ck73425: ... for all the good that does ;-)
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !nicotine
[01:44] <b14ck73425> ERRmsgoff what does this mean
[01:44] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[01:44] <sgruber> is there a way to write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition
[01:44] <renatoborghi> for some reason, i coulnd't say anything in the rooms
[01:44] <b14ck73425> i think it means messaging is off so how would i turn it on?
[01:44] <renatoborghi> so i decided to remove and reinstall it using apt-get
[01:44] <b14ck73425> please :)
[01:45] <renatoborghi> but now i can't open it
[01:45] <jbu> briguyd: so what does that mean? it comes with the OS?
[01:45] <briguyd> supposedly, yes
[01:45] <renatoborghi> when i try to run nicotine from a console, i get this message
[01:45] <briguyd> jbu, you on ubuntu?
[01:45] <sgruber> how do I write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition
[01:45] <jbu> briguyd: yes
[01:45] <briguyd> jbu, open up the network manager and see if its listed
[01:45] <Samuli^> sgruber, what do you mean? You want to install ubuntu or.. ?
[01:46] <Languid> anyone know why, even though gnome-keybinding-properties understands my multimedia keys, only the volume up/down/mute buttons work, play/pause/next/stop/previous dont work in anything (amarok, totem, etc)?  anyone?
[01:46] <renatoborghi> renato@ubuntu:~/ Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sgruber: WHat is the purpose... It is easy to copy the data to a partition... trying to run it or install from it is another
[01:46] <stephen> anybody here have success with installing steam on wine
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> stephen: try in #winehq
[01:46] <renatoborghi> anyone knows what this means?
[01:46] <lupine_85> renatoborghi: it's dodgy source code
[01:46] <renatoborghi> and what do i have to do to make it work?
[01:46] <jrib> renatoborghi: how did you install nicotine?
[01:46] <stephen> Jack_Sparrow: nobodys there :)
[01:46] <lupine_85> learn the programming language, and hen fix it?
[01:47] <renatoborghi> using sudo apt-get install nicotine
[01:47] <lupine_85> s/hen/then
[01:47] <lupine_85> report a bug, then
[01:47] <lupine_85> !bugs
[01:47] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:47] <billybennett> was there another kernel update today?
[01:47] <jbu> briguyd: when i go to network tools/devices under wireless interface (wlan0) it doesnt show naything
[01:47] <renatoborghi> but i think the problem is that before i removed it, i was using nicotine+
[01:47] <briguyd> what do you mean "under wireless interface (wlan0)"
[01:47] <briguyd> is wlan0 there?
[01:47] <lupine_85> if wlan0 is there, the driver is loaded...
[01:47] <renatoborghi> now, i installed nicotine 1.0.8
[01:47] <jbu> i went to network device:
[01:48] <jrib> !info nicotine
[01:48] <renatoborghi> yeah, another kernel update today
[01:48] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[01:48] <jbu> briguyd: i went to network device dragdown window and went to wireless interface(wlan0)
[01:48] <jbu> briguyd: nothin
[01:48] <briguyd> jbu, if wlan0 is listed in the main area, select it and hit properties and configure it
[01:48] <eyequeue> that's a scary name for a peer-to-peer system :(
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[01:49] <renatoborghi> can anyone help me?
[01:49] <eyequeue> billybennett, yes, security
[01:49] <briguyd> eyequeue, it'll get you addicted to filesharing and slowly kill you with lawsuits
[01:49] <billybennett> eyequeue, thanks
[01:49] <Samuli^> well there's also kaffeine and codeine.
[01:49] <eyequeue> i hope everyone has a short uptime!
[01:49] <mumbles> how do i a do a wakeup on lan ?
[01:49] <Samuli^> hopefully no heroine, though :)
[01:49] <jrib> renatoborghi: maybe you can post the file to pastebin and someone can take a look
[01:49] <eyequeue> mumbles, isn't that a bios feature?
[01:49] <renatoborghi> how do i do that, jrib?
[01:50] <georgy> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:50] <jrib> renatoborghi: open up /usr/bin/nicotine in a text editor, and then make a post on the pastebin site
[01:50] <renatoborghi> ok
[01:50] <jrib> if someone has a working nicotine on dapper, it would be easy to see what is going on
[01:51] <Samuli^> or not.
[01:51] <georgy> jrib : work great for me
[01:52] <briguyd> jbu, anything?
[01:52] <mumbles> eyequeue yeh but i saw someone wakeing up a computer across the room by doing some niftey program
[01:52] <jbu> briguyd: its not, what would the first step be to detect it?
[01:52] <eyequeue> mumbles, ping? :)
[01:52] <renatoborghi> ok, can anyone take a look there?
[01:53] <renatoborghi> it's under the name Renato Nicotine problem
[01:53] <eyequeue> mumbles, i would imagine tht's all it takes, if bios-enabled
[01:53] <jrib> georgy: maybe you can help renatoborghi ?  or pastebin your version of /usr/bin/nicotine?
[01:53] <Samuli^> renatoborghi, paste the url.
[01:53] <briguyd> jbu, what is listed in that main area?
[01:53] <renatoborghi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23933
[01:53] <jbu> briguyd: just the two ethernet devices i have
[01:54] <jbu> briguyd: actually i dont even know if two are listed, but two protocols are listed
[01:54] <briguyd> eth0 and eth1, or what?
[01:54] <jbu> briguyd: eth0
[01:54] <eugman> Hey, is there a visual file vierwe so I can get a non abstract idea of what is using up my space?
[01:54] <jbu> briguyd: i think i got it working
[01:54] <briguyd> how?
[01:54] <jrib> renatoborghi: try renaming your ~/.nicotine directory
[01:55] <jbu> briguyd: the "configure" button for wireless lit up
[01:55] <FireLighter> Hey - is this where I can get help?
[01:55] <renatoborghi> what name should it have?
[01:55] <briguyd> jbu, so it works now?
[01:55] <jrib> renatoborghi: ~/.nicotine.backup
[01:55] <FireLighter> I am having major installation troubles
[01:55] <briguyd> FireLighter, yeah, help is here
[01:55] <jbu> briguyd: dunno i'm still on my wired internet
[01:55] <briguyd> ah
[01:55] <oisacx> hi guys
[01:56] <FireLighter> Great! I posted my problem on a forum, here is the link (to save space/typing!): http://forums.crosswalk.com/m_1658906/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1658906
[01:56] <renatoborghi> ok, i did that, jrib
[01:56] <renatoborghi> what now?
[01:56] <jrib> renatoborghi: now try running nicotine again
[01:56] <jbu> briguyd: no ip information is coming up though
[01:56] <oisacx> is there anyone here who have installed azureus <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:56] <renatoborghi> i got the same error, jrib
[01:56] <jrib> D:
[01:56] <eugman> How can I sort text file by the first column?
[01:56] <georgy> renatoborghi : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23934
[01:56] <jbu> briguyd: is there anyway to test it?
[01:57] <lupine_85> jbu: are you comfy in console?
[01:57] <briguyd> jbu, disconnect and disable eth0 or whatever and configure and enable your wireless connetion
[01:58] <renatoborghi> should i replace my file with this u posted, georgy?
[01:58] <briguyd> jbu, you should be able to do it all from the gnome network manager
[01:58] <georgy> renatoborghi : watch if is a diffrence
[01:58] <lupine_85> disabling eth0 and enabling wlan0, yes. Testing whether wlan0 is properly connected while keeping eth0 up, no ;)
[01:58] <jbu> briguyd: ok then brb
[01:58] <briguyd> FireLighter, i have no idea
[01:58] <starpause> i built mocp from source and now it crashes trying to do some iface_set_mixer_value
[01:58] <billybennett> Anyone here using gnome-network-manager for Wireless / WPA1+2 ?
[01:59] <briguyd> can someone look at FireLighter 's problem and help him?
[01:59] <amarokker> Hi, i am unable to install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu. should i ask at #kubuntu?
[01:59] <renatoborghi> is there a way to compare both?
[01:59] <FireLighter> What should I try? I just have a blank screen, when I take the disc out I am faced with windows XP as if nothing has happened
[01:59] <amarokker> I dunno. some problem with glade, and other gnome libs
[01:59] <jrib> renatoborghi: it's the same file
[01:59] <amarokker> wait, show you the error list
[01:59] <mumbles> another question - is there anyway to send a user a message via lan ?
[01:59] <eyequeue> amarokker, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    you ran that command?
[01:59] <jrib> renatoborghi: you can use a program called "diff" to compare them by the way
[01:59] <eugman> Can anyone tel me I can sort a text file based on the first column ?
[01:59] <amarokker> yeah. eyequeue
[01:59] <briguyd> amarokker, you cant "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"?
[01:59] <amarokker> oh?
[01:59] <amarokker> do'h.
[02:00] <lupine_85>  FireLighter: is this the Live CD/DVD?
[02:00] <amarokker> ok, so how am i supposed to get gnome-apps?
[02:00] <eyequeue> amarokker, yeeah, #kubuntu may have some idea, as that command should work afaik
[02:00] <jrib> renatoborghi: have you tried removing it and installing it again?
[02:00] <amarokker> install again from an ubuntu-cd? :S
[02:00] <green__saotome> when my system is booting up, i get an error message that complains about "LVM volume groups" being wrong. This stalls the boot process for about a 1-2 minutes. Any suggestions?
[02:00] <oisacx> is there anyone here who have installed azureus <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:00] <jrib> georgy: thanks
[02:00] <lupine_85> amarokker: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should work fine, assuming you have internet repos
[02:00] <codecaine> how can you set your network config permminant without using gui
[02:00] <FireLighter> lupine_85: yes i got it from shipit.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <renatoborghi> yeah, jrib
[02:01] <georgy> jrib: np
[02:01] <amarokker> yeah...i do- i trid with --fix-missing too. none worked yet.
[02:01] <renatoborghi> should i try erasing my .nicotine folder and reinstalling it?
[02:01] <lupine_85> FireLighter: looks like it's having problems with your graphics card. Have you tried the "safe graphics" option?
[02:01] <eyequeue> renatoborghi, mv .nicotine .nico-old
[02:01] <FireLighter> No, should i try that...I think its in the option list when you first boot.
[02:01] <stuart_> Hi, ive configured my Nvidia to run an Svideo out to  the TV but its displaying and empty desktop with empty workstations and i cant drag anything to it
[02:01] <gnomefreak> renatoborghi: deleting the ~/.nicotine file just restart the app it should generate a new one
[02:01] <eyequeue> renatoborghi, then you can get it back if desired
[02:02] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:02] <renatoborghi> thx
[02:02] <lupine_85> FireLighter: yes, it's in there somewhere. If that doesn't work, you might have to grab an alternative installation CD and do it from there instead :(
[02:02] <FireLighter> Okay! THanks a lot, I'll try it!!
[02:02] <lupine_85> IME the desktop installer is less robust
[02:03] <stuart_> does anyone know how to help me with the svideo
[02:03] <renatoborghi> but both /usr/bin/nicotine files look the same
[02:03] <renatoborghi> so that's probably not the problem
[02:03] <lhds> guys with linux and firefox i lost to toolbar in my hotmail account the one that changes colors and fonts. how to get it back?
[02:03] <lmosher> Anyone know if the nvidia quatro (in a laptop) has 3d working in linux? I'd wager the go 6xxxx or 7xxxx's would work fine, but I was wondering about the quatro b/c I saw a good deal on a latitude D820
[02:04] <rukuartic> Hey there, I think i've installed a few packages that have broken my system, but I can't remember which ones I've downloaded. How would I go and purge all packges not from the Ubuntu Supported Repositories?
[02:04] <lupine_85> rukuartic: this isn't Gentoo ;). TBH I think you've got problems
[02:05] <lupine_85> how did you install them?
[02:05] <rukuartic> lupine_85: Apt-get... I think some of it is xgl/compiz stuff.
[02:05] <Flannel> rukuartic: restore your sources.list to official stuff, then in synaptic, they'll be listed under the 'local or obsolete' section (assuming you used debs to install them)
[02:05] <renatoborghi> ok, nothing worked
[02:05] <renatoborghi> i have no idea why this nicotine isn't working
[02:05] <rukuartic> Flannel: Thanks! :: checks::
[02:06] <renatoborghi> it's strange. cause the error i'm getting is File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
[02:07] <JoaoJoao> hello
[02:07] <renatoborghi> but this line 146 is exactly the same as in the /usr/bin/nicotine file georgy posted
[02:07] <jrib> renatoborghi: follow the rabbit, go see how frame.MainApp is defined
[02:08] <renatoborghi> and how do i do that, jrib?
[02:08] <starpause> renatoborghi, why are you using old nicotine? try mucous and museek+
[02:08] <rukuartic> Flannel: Let me try out my problem, it might sound familiar. As long as I play a video from VLC, it plays fine. But as soon as I try to use something like mplayer or totem, everything goes psychadelic colors. Framerate and audio are fine though...
[02:08] <lupine_85> mmmmm backtraces, lol
[02:08] <jrib> renatoborghi: you'd have to go read the file with the pynicotine.gtkgui module
[02:08] <lupine_85> rukuartic: he's modified init so that it takes two, instead of three, arguments (IIUI)
[02:09] <rukuartic> lupine_85: Hrrm?
[02:09] <marcagio> how can I add Sound to wine?
[02:09] <Samuli^> hehe, now you have to start learning how to code in order to use ubuntu? :)
[02:09] <lupine_85> erm, sorry. that was @renatoborghi!
[02:09] <lupine_85> it should be an entry requirement ;)
[02:10] <renatoborghi> and how do i do that, lupine_85 and jrib?
[02:10] <renatoborghi> where is this pynicotine.gtkgui module?
[02:10] <Samuli^> linux for human beings, well.. they do code, not all of them.. but some. hmm.
[02:10] <Samuli^> :D
[02:10] <jrib> renatoborghi: try 'locate pynicotine.gtkgui'
[02:10] <renatoborghi> nothing happened
[02:11] <renatoborghi> i got no result
[02:11] <Samuli^> that's because locate isn't up-to-date
[02:11] <riddick> anyone have a good link for xgl howto?  i have tried a couple via google and they seemed to fail.  i am running LTS Ubuntu with an nvidia card.
[02:11] <lupine_85> find / -name <blah> ?
[02:11] <georgy> !xgl
[02:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:11] <lupine_85> will take ages, though
[02:11] <marcagio> is there a way to get my sound working on Wine anyone?
[02:11] <Samuli^> yeah, find -name foo.
[02:11] <renatoborghi> hahaha
[02:12] <riddick> Thank you
[02:12] <Samuli^> I think find defaults to root if no directory is specified.
[02:12] <renatoborghi> i got lots of "permission denied", lupine_85
[02:12] <jrib> renatoborghi: find
[02:12] <mr_hus> what's the easiest way to connect to a wireless network using WPA-PSK?
[02:12] <lupine_85> yes, you will
[02:12] <renatoborghi> i'll run sudo this time
[02:12] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[02:12] <rpalkovic> Hello everyone!
[02:12] <jrib> renatoborghi: find /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -name whatever_that)thing_was
[02:12] <lupine_85> mr_hus: depends on the wireless card ;)
[02:13] <rpalkovic> Wanted to share the following, then ask a question...
[02:13] <rukuartic> mr_hus: Can you connect to non secured networks to begin with?
[02:13] <lupine_85> the standard method is wpa_supplicant but not all cards support it
[02:13] <renatoborghi> no response, jrib
[02:13] <eugman> Anyone know how to setup clamassassin?
[02:14] <jrib> renatoborghi: find /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -name '*pynicotine.gtkgui*'
[02:14] <mr_hus> rukuartic: i dont think i tried
[02:14] <rpalkovic> I've been a loyal windows user for - well, too damn long.  I finally made the switch to Linux via Ubuntu, and the only place windows exists anymore is in a virtual machine, and only to use ms money.  Let me tell you - I've been loving it!
[02:14] <lhds> anyone knows if opera can access hotmail account and read emails?
[02:14] <mr_hus> rukuartic: i thought seeing networks was already a proof that it was working heh
[02:14] <rukuartic> mr_hus: Most definately something to try first :)
[02:14] <renatoborghi> no response again, jrib
[02:14] <lupine_85> mr_hus: not quite
[02:14] <rukuartic> rpalkovic: :D Welcome to the society.
[02:14] <kitche> lhds: umm yeah it's just a browser unless you mean to use pop3
[02:14] <jrib> renatoborghi: hmm do 'sudo updatedb' and try locate again I guess
[02:14] <lupine_85> some drivers are broken in some respects
[02:15] <rpalkovic> thanks rukuartic
[02:15] <lupine_85> what driver are you using?
[02:15] <Samuli^> renatoborghi, do sudo locate -u & locate whatyouweretryingto.find
[02:15] <mr_hus> i have no idea, i have a fresh ubuntu install
[02:15] <rpalkovic> I know JUST enough to get myself into trouble, so I figured I'd ask for help here since I havn't found any conclusive answer via googling...
[02:15] <mr_hus> my wireless card is based on an Atheros chip
[02:15] <renatoborghi> i tried that and it didn't work again, jrib
[02:16] <lupine_85> mr_hus: it'll work with wpasupplicant fine, then
[02:16] <kitche> rpalkovic: have you tried the ubuntu tutorial
[02:16] <lupine_85> !wpasupplicant
[02:16] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB
[02:16] <rpalkovic> I wasn't really planning on making the switch when I partitioned my hard drive, so now I've got 15 gigs of unallocated space on /dev/hda
[02:16] <rpalkovic> a needs to be deleted partition on /dev/hda5
[02:16] <jrib> renatoborghi: I don't know then
[02:16] <renatoborghi> i got this answer now, Samuli^
[02:16] <renatoborghi> [1]  7009
[02:16] <rpalkovic> and my ubuntu boot partition on /dev/hda6
[02:17] <rpalkovic> and a swap partition
[02:17] <rpalkovic> at /dev/hda7
[02:17] <Samuli^> renatoborghi, ask the coder guys what do with that info :)
[02:17] <renatoborghi> ok, thx
[02:17] <renatoborghi> jrib, i got this info now
[02:17] <rpalkovic> i need to move /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1, delete the other non swap partitions, and extend the /dev/hda1 partition to the full size of the disk.
[02:17] <renatoborghi> [1]  7009
[02:18] <rpalkovic> i'm trying to use GParted to do all this - but because /dev/hda6 is mounted, i can't delete /dev/hda5
[02:18] <rpalkovic> and even if I could - i have NO idea how to switch the boot partition from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1 once the move occurs.
[02:18] <lupine_85> rpalkovic: best to do it from a Live CD
[02:19] <rpalkovic> i tried that too - the live CD had no access to the partitions
[02:19] <rpalkovic> i couldn't even unmount /dev/hda5
[02:19] <lupine_85> ...it wouldn't be mounted in the first place...
[02:19] <lupine_85> changing your boot partition is easy enough - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and replace all the hda6 with hda1
[02:19] <rpalkovic> that's what I thought - but it was
[02:19] <lupine_85> make a backup first, though :)
[02:20] <rpalkovic> ahhh, that's awesome
[02:20] <rpalkovic> as for my drives being mounted - i didn't think they should be either...  is there a special way I should have booted from the live cd?
[02:20] <jrib> renatoborghi: oops, my fault you should have just searched for pynicotine and then gone to gtkgui/frame.py
[02:21] <renatoborghi> ahhhhhhhh
[02:21] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:21] <detectiveinspekt> is there a gnome pannel prog that allows me to see different time zones?
[02:21] <detectiveinspekt> adding another clock uses the same computer clock
[02:21] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:21] <renatoborghi> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:21] <renatoborghi> here it is
[02:21] <renatoborghi> what do i do with it?
[02:22] <jrib> renatoborghi: md5sum /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:22] <renatoborghi> 2ec81a0d565332db085a9a3ceea3ccf1  /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:23] <jrib> renatoborghi: interesting, you got a different md5sum than the one I got from the downloaded deb on packages.ubuntu.com... can you pastebin that file?
[02:23] <renatoborghi> file  /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py?
[02:23] <renatoborghi> wait a sec
[02:23] <jrib> renatoborghi: yep
[02:25] <rpalkovic> kitche: I didn't look at the tutorial, but i know enough *nix commands to get around, and then google and ubuntuforums helped with anything I couldn't figure out on my own.
[02:25] <aszurom> Is it just me, or does the default implementation of VNC server in ubuntu's remote desktop bite?
[02:25] <kitche> !xgl
[02:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:25] <mumbles> im off to bed
[02:25] <raxor> hi all, how do i set an environment var?
[02:25] <aszurom> here on my lan, I can't get much of a decent update rate on the screen
[02:25] <renatoborghi> it's there, jrib
[02:26] <raxor> that can be accessed from a perl script: eg. $ENV{SOURCE_ROOT}
[02:26] <jrib> renatoborghi: url?
[02:26] <aszurom> I'd like to trade it in for TightVNC which works marvelously, but Tightvnc says there's already a VNC service running on display 0... which would be the default VNC but I can't fathom how do disable it
[02:26] <rpalkovic> lupine_85: is there a specific way I should boot from the live CD in order to not mount existing partitions?
[02:26] <renatoborghi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23937
[02:27] <lupine_85> rpalkovic: is it swap?
[02:27] <lupine_85> (the partition that's getting mounted)
[02:27] <rpalkovic> all of them mount
[02:27] <rpalkovic> on hda and hdc
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Night all....
[02:28] <georgy> Jack_Sparrow : night
[02:28] <lupine_85> gah, that's got to be annoying. It really shouldn't do that
[02:28] <rpalkovic> night JS
[02:28] <renatoborghi> c ya Jack_Sparrow
[02:28] <lupine_85> can you sudo umount them?
[02:28] <kitche> rpalkovic: think the command is before it boots maybe ubuntu nomount
[02:28] <jrib> renatoborghi: yeah, you've got the wrong file in there for some reason.  There are a lot of differences, so we are going to try to get at the root of the problem instead of patching this error...  Do this 'sudo apt-get --purge remove nicotine'
[02:29] <rpalkovic> Thought about sudo umount, but gparted is running as sudo so I didn't try it
[02:29] <riddlebox> why would ndiswrapper use eth1 most of the time for my wireless but once in a while it uses wlan0?
[02:29] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:29] <renatoborghi> what does this --purge means?
[02:29] <rpalkovic> kitche: how would I manage that?
[02:29] <aszurom> is it Vino I have to dump to get VNC server off display 0?
[02:30] <finalbeta> renatoborghi, remove config files
[02:30] <riddlebox> usually purge means to delete
[02:30] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:30] <renatoborghi> thx
[02:30] <rpalkovic> instead of booting to nautilus, boot to to a cmd and then run it?
[02:30] <CromagDK> i've been readin a bit, i am looking for an answer regarding change of size of my boot partition. Gparted, is there a risc it will corrupt data somehow when changing size ?
[02:30] <renatoborghi> and now what do i do, jrib?
[02:30] <renatoborghi> reinstall it?
[02:30] <jrib> renatoborghi: now, type this: ls /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:30] <kitche> rpalkovic: well it's should be at the beginning of the cd before you get into ubuntu
[02:30] <finalbeta> CromagDK, resising is always a risk
[02:30] <finalbeta> be sure to make proper backups
[02:30] <sureshot> ok once again what is that program name that used 2 monitors as one desktop and ware can i get get
[02:30] <rpalkovic> alright - i'll see what I can find.  thanks for the help, I'll let you know how it goes :)
[02:30] <CromagDK> finalbeta: ok :( sadly
[02:31] <rpalkovic> adios for now, wish me luck!
[02:31] <jrib> !xinerama
[02:31] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[02:31] <georgy> sureshot : xinerama
[02:31] <renatoborghi> renato@ubuntu:~$ ls /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:31] <jrib> renatoborghi: dpkg -S /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:32] <aszurom> sheesh...
[02:32] <lufis> Can I use a laptop drive on a desktop?
[02:32] <renatoborghi> not found, jrib
[02:32] <lupine_85> lufis: not usually
[02:32] <aszurom> I got :0 freed up, but it doesn't actually display my desktop... it fires up its own X session
[02:33] <lupine_85> depends on the connector, though
[02:33] <lufis> lupine_85: :( why?
[02:33] <lupine_85> many laptops have non-standard cabling to the drive
[02:33] <lufis> lupine_85: aw, sux
[02:33] <lupine_85> it's all IDE/SATA in the end, but good luck getting it plugged in
[02:33] <Lxnash> where can i find info on how to configure my wireless card?
[02:33] <lupine_85> still, worth a try... you might get lucky
[02:33] <lupine_85> !wifi
[02:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:33] <georgy> !wireless
[02:33] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok then and please be very careful not to make a type, sudo rm -r /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine
[02:33] <bimberi> aszurom: you've disabled the Remote Desktop?
[02:34] <lufis> lupine_85: i think the hardest part is actually getting the laptop open... it's got tiny torq screws and i don't have a torq screwdriver
[02:34] <renatoborghi> ok, it's done
[02:34] <aszurom> bimberi, yes
[02:34] <lupine_85> hammer +  chisel works :)
[02:34] <aszurom> the remote desktop that is installed by default (vino) doesn't do well at all for me
[02:34] <lufis> lupine_85: ha, i might resort to that if push comes to shove :-p
[02:35] <aszurom> on a 100mbit lan, it doesn't refresh the screen correctly and I can't figure out why
[02:35] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok, apt-cache policy nicotine, on pastebin please
[02:35] <caliban> plz help me to my cdrom, i do anythings, but nothing :( plzzzz
[02:35] <aszurom> if I move a window, only parts of it will update
[02:35] <aszurom> but Tightvnc works great
[02:35] <kitche> aszurom: might be that program
[02:35] <bimberi> aszurom: but it was running?  i think the process remains if it was once running.  do a <alt>F2 and run a 'killall vino-server' command
[02:36] <renatoborghi> it's a small response, can't i paste it here jrib?
[02:36] <jrib> renatoborghi: if it is less than 3 lines
[02:36] <aszurom> it's pretty dead
[02:36] <renatoborghi> it is
[02:36] <aszurom> but it still doesn't show my actual running gnome desktop
[02:36] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok, you've wasted 2 already though :P
[02:36] <aszurom> it fires up a new X session to show me
[02:37] <bimberi> aszurom: yes :|
[02:37] <renatoborghi> nicotine:  Instalado: (nenhum)  Candidatos: 1.0.8rc1-1.1  Tabela de Verso: 1.0.8rc1-1.1 0   500 http://br.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[02:37] <aszurom> can I not get it to show me the current in-use desktop?
[02:37] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok go ahead and do 'sudo apt-get install nicotine'
[02:37] <renatoborghi> great
[02:38] <bimberi> aszurom: there possibly is, but i don't personally know.  vino-server has usually worked ok for that when i've needed it
[02:38] <renatoborghi> YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
[02:38] <renatoborghi> man, thx a lot
[02:38] <jrib> renatoborghi: np
[02:38] <picasso> ok im back! im trying to get my networks to show up under network-manager-gnome. just upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06
[02:38] <georgy> jrib : good job !
[02:38] <picasso> has anyone had a problem with network-manager-gnome applet not showing network interfaces?
[02:38] <renatoborghi> i wouldn't be able to do this alone
[02:38] <picasso> im not seeing any of them
[02:38] <aszurom> yeah, vino it's so slow as to be worthless, and I can't understand why
[02:39] <codecaine> im trying to get xgl to work when I try to do compiz I get this error
[02:39] <codecaine> gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[02:39] <codecaine> compiz.real: No composite extension
[02:39] <aszurom> it's not like the two boxes aren't right next to each other
[02:40] <codecaine> any ideals?
[02:41] <Samuli^> nope, none.
[02:41] <renatoborghi> ok, ppl, thx for the help
[02:41] <renatoborghi> c ya all later
[02:41] <Samuli^> codecaine, seriously though, #ubuntu-xgl
[02:41] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display:  ..  Any ideas?
[02:41] <sess> !loki
[02:41] <ubotu> loki: [Biology]  MCMC linkage analysis on general pedigrees. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (dapper), package size 332 kB, installed size 824 kB
[02:42] <sess> !loki installer
[02:42] <burns2> hi! i install the nvidia driver by automatix but 1024 option to screeen resolution is not activate! i need fiz it!
[02:42] <sess> Why is it that the loki installer doesn't install shortcuts into my gnome menu?  additionally, I just installed crossover office, and its menu doesn't show up in my gnome session either
[02:42] <sess> !crossover office
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <J-_> what do i need to download to view java applets in mozilla web browser?
[02:44] <caliban> plz help me to my cdrom, i do anythings, but nothing :( plzzzz
[02:44] <jrib> !java > J-_
[02:45] <jrib> !fixres > burns2
[02:45] <burns2> yep?
[02:45] <jrib> burns2: ubotu should have sent you some info in a private message
[02:45] <burns2> ok
[02:45] <burns2> i'll try
[02:45] <aszurom> Just FYI - I cured my issue by installing x11vnc
[02:46] <aszurom> it does exactly what realVNC does in windows
[02:46] <aszurom> serves up the running X display
[02:47] <dxy> is there a gcc package in the first cd of ubuntu?
[02:47] <TheReconHunter> Hey, i got a bit of a noobish question
[02:47] <TheReconHunter> anyone wanna help out?
[02:47] <npodges> !ask
[02:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:47] <bretzel> Hi there!:-) How can I get the graphical VGA font set into the console (frame buffer/or normal text mode ) I am unable to display things like box ??
[02:48] <jrib> dxy: I *think* all of the cd's had build-essential (which pulls in gcc) on them
[02:48] <TheReconHunter> Aight. In AmaroK, I somehow got rid of the file menu by accidentally clicking in one of the tabs. Can anyone find out how to fix it?
[02:48] <Samuli^> jrib, They don't.
[02:48] <bretzel> I mean there is NO such charset to draw the box, or other characters into the console
[02:49] <Samuli^> jrib, remember, this is a distro for human beings :)
[02:49] <dxy> jrib: is it a builtin command  to grab the source and install?
[02:49] <TheReconHunter> can someone help me? There should be a shortcut in amarok in the first or second tab to minimize the files
[02:49] <lupine_85> dxy: to do that, you do apt-get source --compile <package>
[02:49] <TheReconHunter> *file menu
[02:49] <jrib> Samuli^: well I know hoary, breezy, dapper, and edgy do.  Did warty not have it?  I know it isn't installed by default, but it's available on the cd
[02:49] <Flannel> TheReconHunter: you might try asking in #kubuntu
[02:50] <Samuli^> jrib, I don't think dapper does, did breezy?
[02:51] <TheReconHunter> gr...
[02:51] <bretzel> sh&^t! the "dialog" command line does something to the terminal to be able to display those graph charset ...
[02:51] <TheReconHunter> its something pretty easy to fix, i just cant find the command
[02:51] <Flannel> Samuli^: Dapper does
[02:51] <Samuli^> There isn't even a line to point out to CD in dapper sources.list, at least not in the 'default' live/install cd.
[02:52] <Flannel> Samuli^: that's because the liveCD can't be used as a repository, only the alternate
[02:52] <gnomefreak> hoary adn newer have build-essential on the cd (not installed by default)
[02:52] <foo> What's a really lightweight manager like gdm ?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> as in you can use the cdrom repo to install it
[02:52] <eyequeue> .join #ubuntu-meeting
[02:52] <gnomefreak> manager for what?
[02:53] <kitche> foo: xdm if you mean display manager
[02:53] <picasso> Anybody know why network-manager (installed w/ apt-get after upgrading 5.10 -> 6.06) would not show any network interfaces? im trying to get WPA wifi working
[02:53] <Samuli^> flannel, so it's pretty much that dapper doesn't have build-essential on the cd (assuming the default most users use)
[02:53] <foo> kitche: ah, yeah, that, thanks
[02:54] <PseudoPlacebo> How do I install OpenSSL on Ubuntu.
[02:54] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, with synaptic
[02:54] <Flannel> Samuli^: right.  the DEsktop CD doesn't have anything on it except what is installed by default, as it isn't a repository.
[02:54] <georgy> !openssl
[02:54] <PseudoPlacebo> Without a stupid pussy way.
[02:54] <ubotu> openssl: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 952 kB, installed size 2268 kB
[02:54] <chuckyp> TheReconHunter, whats your problem?
[02:54] <kitche> PseudoPlacebo: sudo apt-get install openssl
[02:55] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, what do you mean with out a stupid easy way?
[02:55] <TheReconHunter> With amaroK, i made all hte file menus disappear, and i just need someone to help me find a way to get em back
[02:55] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, then download the source and build it if you don't want to use synaptic
[02:55] <PseudoPlacebo> chuckyp:  I want to use apt.
[02:55] <Flannel> TheReconHunter: #kubuntu would be a better place to ask, probably
[02:55] <Sembiance> Hi Ubuntu peopls!
[02:55] <Sembiance> err peoples rofl
[02:55] <chuckyp> TheReconHunter, perhaps you should ask in #kubuntu
[02:55] <PseudoPlacebo> Namely because I'm working straight from a command line via SSH.
[02:55] <Flannel> PseudoPlacebo: so, use apt.  It's the same thing, synaptic is merey a frontend. apt-cache search to find it, then apt-get install
[02:55] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, then sudo apt-get install openssl
[02:55] <Deaigo> i have made a .de
[02:55] <Deaigo> b
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> im trying, but not much luck
[02:56] <Deaigo> where can i put it so others dont have to go throught this pain in the ass install process?
[02:56] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, you can find packages with apt-get  by apt-cache search packagename
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> theyre saying "oh just b/c we use Kubuntu doesnt mean we use amaroK"
[02:56] <Sembiance> I'm a developer, and I've been using Linux for years, but always as a server. I'm ready now to change my workstation to a Linux machine now and will be doing things like writing code, listening to music, watching videos, etc. I've tried Gentoo in the past but I hate how long it takes to compile things and how you have to work so hard to get your hardware to work.
[02:56] <chuckyp> TheReconHunter, there may also be an amarok channel
[02:57] <Sembiance> So I'm looking at ubuntu to ease the 'make my hardware work' pain
[02:57] <chuckyp> Sembiance, try using the live cd see if it fits your needs
[02:57] <Sembiance> However I'm worried that ubuntu might be too easy? By that I mean, will I be able to download the latest source code for things like PHP and what not and isntall them?
[02:57] <krazykit> Sembiance: you must've done something wrong if you had problems getting your hardware working in gentoo.  it's simply a matter of know what you have.  ubuntu makes it easy by having all the modules compiled and ready for you
[02:57] <chuckyp> Deaigo, so other on your system can install it?
[02:57] <Sembiance> How do source installed packages conflict with ubuntu?
[02:58] <krazykit> Sembiance: they don't.  you can make deb packages yourself
[02:58] <chuckyp> Sembiance, yes you can always install from source
[02:58] <b14ck73425> hey again
[02:58] <Deaigo> chuckyp i mean so someone can type apt-get install btg
[02:58] <Sembiance> krazykit: I never had 'problems' per se, as lspci -v always works well and then just compile a kernel. but it's always a big pain and takes time
[02:58] <chuckyp> Deaigo, hrm... well I have no idea on how to get a package added to the repos
[02:58] <krazykit> Sembiance: meh, only the first time :-p
[02:58] <Deaigo> Sembiance ubuntu is fine.... it is easy yes. but unlike fedora and other projects ubuntu allows you to have real fun with the system ;)
[02:59] <Sembiance> Hrm...
[02:59] <Flannel> Deaigo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:59] <chuckyp> Sembiance, like I say you can always try the live cd and see if you don't like it just try another live cd.
[02:59] <Sembiance> krazykit, chuckyp, Deaigo: Thank you very much for your help and answering my questions :)
[02:59] <kitche> Sembiance: you just have to install the developer tools since they don't get installed by default
[02:59] <Sembiance> I was afraid I'd ask my question and nobody would respond ;)
[02:59] <chuckyp> Sembiance, however to be able to install from source you would need gcc etc...  I would recomend installing the build-essential package
[03:00] <krazykit> Sembiance: ubuntu's build environment is easy enough to set up.  i compile things now and again and have never had problems
[03:01] <chuckyp> Deaigo, if you check out that motu link they may have information there about requesting that a package be added
[03:01] <Sembiance> Well maybe I should rethink what I want my workstation to be. Installing PHP server on it probably isn't the best use of the machine since I already have some machines in my apartment that act as 'servers' doing that sort of thing. Right now I just map to them as a samba drive and then just develop things that way. However when writing C code, debugginng via GDB becomes tiresome so I'd like to switch to linux and embrace it
[03:01] <georgy> !e17
[03:01] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:01] <Deaigo> chuckyp reading now
[03:01] <Sembiance> So yah, I'll need the developer tools for sure, as gcc I'll need, etc. But maybe not some other things
[03:01] <Deaigo> Sembiance i run ubuntu... at my amtes place
[03:02] <Deaigo> it has gnome running and what not
[03:02] <caliban> plz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  	/mnt/cdrom  	iso9660  	ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , ele esta dando erro de block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ
[03:02] <Deaigo> but i shh in to do everything i need
[03:02] <Deaigo> ssh*
[03:02] <chuckyp> Sembiance, well you can install them one by one etc.. build-essential is a meta package that installs some common compilers
[03:02] <Sembiance> If I install say the very latest version of something like libxml (because maybe the latest isn't available in ubuntu as a package) will that conflict with ubuntu packages?
[03:02] <caliban> plz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  	/mnt/cdrom  	iso9660  	ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , erro = block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ
[03:02] <chuckyp> Sembiance, no you can completely control holding packages back etc... for the updates
[03:02] <Sembiance> krazykit: That's good to know
[03:02] <Deaigo> Sembiance could uninstall using apt-get first if its a worry
[03:03] <kitche> Sembiance: nope unless a package brings in libxml but you can always make a deb for your package so you can install it anytime
[03:03] <Sembiance> Deaigo: When I've done stuff like that in the past with redhat or gentoo the dependencies are usually a real pain
[03:03] <Deaigo> Sembiance tell me about it
[03:03] <Sembiance> How up to date is the package system for Ubuntu? How does it compare with things like Gentoo?
[03:03] <Samuli^> doesn't redhat use rpm's?
[03:03] <Deaigo> its alright...
[03:04] <Deaigo> imo gentoo leads in package management
[03:04] <chuckyp> Sembiance, well there are extra repositories are always an option.
[03:04] <Deaigo> Sembiance well it only had libtorrent 8.2 :/
[03:04] <chuckyp> Sembiance, like I say your best bet would be just to boot to the livecd and check it out.
[03:04] <Flannel> Sembiance: ubuntu freezes versions each release
[03:04] <Sembiance> I just don't want to get stuck in 8 months and realize that I'm not able to tweak or change something in my ubuntu system because it's not meant to handle that? Ubuntu doesn't lock people out totally from doing certain things does it?
[03:05] <Flannel> Sembiance: nope
[03:05] <Sembiance> chuckyp: Ok cool, I have ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso downloaded. Is that what I need to burn and try out?
[03:05] <kitche> Sembiance: well it locks you into sudo
[03:05] <Samuli^> even if it does freeze versions, there's 3rd party repositories and backports though.
[03:05] <chuckyp> Sembiance, absolutely not
[03:05] <Deaigo> Sembiance gentoo users have switched to ubuntu(and this was before the GUI installer)_
[03:05] <joebu23> i ran into a problem i am hoping someone can help me with
[03:05] <georgy> !ask
[03:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:05] <chuckyp> Sembiance, yeah just burn it and make sure your computer is set to boot to cd... and you will be able to select live cd from the menu.
[03:05] <Deaigo> i used to be a real critic of ubuntu untill i actually used it
[03:06] <Deaigo> Sembiance use the alternative install disc
[03:06] <kitche> ubuntu runs slow on my system at least the net does
[03:06] <joebu23> i just upgraded my kernel today to 2.6.15-27 and now my pcmcia network card is not recognized by the system
[03:06] <chuckyp> Deaigo, I don't believe he can run the live cd from the alternate iso
[03:06] <Deaigo> i was just saying use it
[03:06] <georgy> chuckyp : that's right
[03:07] <Sembiance> And will ubuntu just automatically find my NVIDIA GeForce 6600, enable hardware acceleration, work with my USB mouse and keyboard (including scroll wheel on mouse), my Audigy 2 sound card? etc?
[03:07] <kitche> oh yeah sethk are you around I fixed my problem that I was having
[03:07] <caliban> plz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  	/mnt/cdrom  	iso9660  	ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , erro = block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ
[03:07] <chuckyp> Sembiance, well the nvidia part is a little tricky since their drivers aren't open source
[03:07] <Flannel> Sembiance: automatically? no.  within a few commands? yes.
[03:07] <kitche> Sembiance: you will have to install the nvidia drivers to have hardware acceleration
[03:07] <Samuli^> Sembiance, all but enable acceleration for opengl I think.
[03:07] <b0ysc0ut> im trying to do a chmod on a folder..but it keeps tellin me access denied..anybody?
[03:07] <chuckyp> Sembiance, but the nvidia drivers are easy to install or you can install the nvidia-glx package to add the free ones
[03:07] <Flannel> Sembiance: there's a hardware compat section on the wiki, if you want to double check
[03:07] <devnull> hello .. i am trying to get my wireless working correctly .... i can get onto WEP secured networks with a passphrase but I can not get onto networks that do not has a passphrase
[03:07] <Deaigo> Sembiance hmmm not sure but it should... but there are toutorials in the forums on how to do nvidia drivers
[03:07] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: which folder you looking to chmod?
[03:07] <chuckyp> b0ysc0ut, which folder?
[03:08] <devnull> in Elive i just pick the network and it connects .... in ubuntu i can't connect to any un-passphrased wireless networks
[03:08] <georgy> b0ysc0ut : sudo chmod ?
[03:08] <b0ysc0ut> its on the filysystem
[03:08] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: which folder?
[03:08] <b0ysc0ut> sudo..mm..dint think bout that
[03:08] <Deaigo> Sembiance you could always just settle for debian ;)
[03:08] <Sembiance> Flannel: cool   (/me heads to google to look for the wiki address)
[03:08] <chuckyp> Sembiance, or you can download the binary from the nvidia sight.  but the wiki addresses all of this
[03:08] <chuckyp> !tell Sembiance about wiki
[03:08] <crogue5> oh
[03:09] <b0ysc0ut> /usr/share/icons/gnome
[03:09] <krazykit> Deaigo: debian is hardly settling.  both debian and ubuntu are excellent systems
[03:09] <rorr> b0ysc0ut: don't do any sudo chmod without thinking first...
[03:09] <b0ysc0ut> thats the folder..
[03:09] <Flannel> Sembiance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:09] <Sembiance> Flannel: thanks :)
[03:09] <georgy> b0ysc0ut : then sudo
[03:09] <Sembiance> Deaigo, Flannel, kitche, chuckyp: Thank you all for your help, I really appreciate it :)
[03:09] <chuckyp> Sembiance, np
[03:09] <b0ysc0ut> im tryin to put a new icon in that folder..but i dont have permision to write on it..so it would be -r?
[03:09] <kitche> hmm I should try and speed up my networking on my ubuntu system
[03:09] <i4get2> lol
[03:10] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: just copy it with sudo.  don't chmod it
[03:10] <Sanne> Sembiance: there's also an online packages database, if you want to have a look at versions etc: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <chuckyp> Sembiance, there are always people around here helping out
[03:10] <georgy> b0ysc0ut : sudo cp -r
[03:10] <rorr> b0ysc0ut: sudo cp your_icon /usr/share/icons/gnome/
[03:10] <Deaigo> Sembiance ah well tell us what OS you end up with