[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63062 in totem (main) "Artifacts on screen when playing example content" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63062
[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63063 in Ubuntu "Screen Resolution/Hz wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63063
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63064 in ubiquity (main) "prepare mountpoints partition names unfriendly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63064
[12:41] <TheMuso> c
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63066 in libpam-mount (universe) "mount.crypt broken: Luks volumes won't mount anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63066
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63067 in ubiquity (main) "Partition list should be sorted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63067
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63068 in xorg (main) "Xorg occassionaly crashes after resuming" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63068
[01:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63069 in Ubuntu "Upon resume from suspend, windows and gnome do not refresh properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63069
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63070 in update-manager (main) "Update-manager uses a high amount of RAM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63070
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63071 in adduser (main) "No support for native symbols in username" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63071
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63061 in update-manager (main) "DistUpgrade Bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63061
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63065 in update-manager (main) "Upgrading from 6.06 failed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63065
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63072 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[R128]  Dapper ppc install cd SIGSEGV initializing X on iMac" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63072
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63073 in ubiquity (main) ""Grub will be installed to" string troublesome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63073
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63074 in Ubuntu "System instable: 3 log in /var/log/dist-upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63074
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62896 in k3b (main) "SATA drive won't burn CD or DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62896
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62952 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "CD not auto mounted on insertion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62952
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63076 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Edgy - RT61 detection regression" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63076
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63075 in ubiquity (main) "Mounts a folder on desktop when looking for partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63075
[01:58] <mc44> crimsun, I needed to use some options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack" to get audio working on my motherboard, is that worth filing a bug about? The alsa bugzilla made my eyes hurt :(
[01:59] <crimsun> yes. Please remember to attach the output from lspci -nv
[01:59] <mc44> ok, thanks
[01:59] <crimsun> and the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[02:00] <mc44> crimsun, against -linux-source?
[02:00] <crimsun> yes, for whichever release you're using
[02:00] <crimsun> -15 for dapper, -17 for edgy
[02:00] <mc44> ok, thanks
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63077 in ubiquity (main) "Can't use free space" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63077
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63078 in acpid (main) "Dell Precision M65 laptop fails to hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63078
[02:09] <mc44> crimsun, bug 63080, thanks for the help!
[02:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63080 in linux-source-2.6.17 "snd-intel-hda requires options to work on AD1986A" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63080
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63079 in language-pack-es (main) "[update-manager]  %s is used where it shouldn't be" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63079
[02:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63080 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "snd-intel-hda requires options to work on AD1986A" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63080
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63081 in maxima (universe) "xmaxima is broken and maxima is outdated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63081
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63082 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu 6.06 logs out of X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63082
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63083 in Ubuntu "Will not boot with multiple hard drives/OS's Kubuntu 6.06.1 32 bit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63083
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63084 in gksu (main) "Should use the polished startup icon and desc of dapper" [Undecided,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63084
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63085 in casper (main) "Amd64/i386 initrd do not contain jmicron.ko module" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63085
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63086 in Ubuntu "edgy beta hard install fail,can no scan harddrivers for an installer ISO image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63086
[03:14] <JoseStefan> does launchpad have a FAQ or help on the different options?
[03:14] <JoseStefan> oops, guess i found the faq :P
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63087 in Ubuntu "Menu bar won't start up." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63087
[03:18] <JoseStefan> what exactly is "Also Affects Upstream" for?
[03:24] <crimsun> linking upstream bug trackers
[03:36] <JoseStefan> what if i dont have a bug number for that tracker? Can i leave "Link to a bug in another bug tracker" unchecked?
[03:42] <JoseStefan> in escence, the bug is also present in the debian package, how should I proceed?
[03:46] <crimsun> file a bug using LP against the Ubuntu source package, then file a bug in the Debian BTS, then link it
[03:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63088 in xtoolwait (universe) "xtoolwait binary not installed in default path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63088
[04:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63089 in network-manager (main) "second try connecting it will never connect [edgy] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63089
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63090 in Ubuntu "inconsistent handling of external usb devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63090
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63091 in gtk+2.0 (main) "missing files in libgtk2.0-doc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63091
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63092 in Ubuntu "no idea" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63092
[05:10] <ajmitch> a descriptive bug title
[05:13] <Hobbsee> indeed.
[05:13] <Hobbsee> useless backtrace too
[05:17] <keescook> say, how do I subscribe to any entire packages's bugs in LP?  (e.g. be notified about new Inkscape bugs, etc)
[05:18] <ajmitch> go to a package's bugs page
[05:18] <ajmitch> then bugmail settings
[05:18] <ajmitch> eg https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+subscribe
[05:19] <keescook> ajmitch: ahHA.  thank you!
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63093 in ept (main) "Adept: APT Database could not be opened" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63093
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63094 in evolution (main) "Evolution crash when opening a mail " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63094
[06:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63095 in update-manager (main) "update-manager upgrade to edgy fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63095
[06:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63096 in slab (universe) "Package missing control-center executable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63096
[06:41] <imbrandon> ash211, thanks for helping me go through the bugs in amarok
[06:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63097 in xorg (main) "xserver-xorg-video-* did not get installed during upgrade from dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63097
[06:42] <ash211> you're welcome
[06:42] <ash211> i've been trying to help out for a while, so I started w/ amarok b/c I'm familiar with it
[06:43] <imbrandon> fyi too when you ask people to test amarok 1.4.3 is avaible in dapper-backports also
[06:43] <imbrandon> ash211, cool me and Hobbsee do 99% of the packaging for it so if you need anything just ping us in here or #kubuntu-devel
[06:43] <ash211> is that "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports ./" ?
[06:44] <ash211> i've got it hidden in my sources.list somewhere...
[06:44] <imbrandon> no its deb http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports main restriceted universe multiverse , also note you will need universe enabled too on the regular repos
[06:45] <ash211> is that enabled by default on dapper?
[06:45] <imbrandon> no
[06:45] <ash211> if i tell a user to add backports and then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, what other packages will come in besides amarok?
[06:46] <imbrandon> kde wise , konversation ktorrent , ummm not sure
[06:46] <imbrandon> not alot
[06:46] <imbrandon> but updates
[06:46] <ash211> nothing that could break a system, right?
[06:46] <imbrandon> right, they are tested thus in the ubuntu archive ;)
[06:47] <imbrandon> not like a 3rd party repo
[06:47] <ash211> just making sure
[06:47] <imbrandon> and you'll want dist-upgrade not upgrade ( to satisfy now deps )
[06:48] <imbrandon> s/now/new
[06:48] <ash211> sounds good
[06:49] <ash211> what exactly is the assigned to field used for in launchpad?
[06:49] <ash211> sometimes it's a group, sometimes a person
[06:49] <imbrandon> used for a developer to assign them selfs to it
[06:49] <imbrandon> saying they are working on it
[06:49] <ash211> so i shouldn't assign it to anybody then, right?
[06:49] <imbrandon> correct
[06:51] <ash211> another question (i've got to ask them now, they're acutally getting answered :)
[06:51] <imbrandon> heh np
[06:52] <ash211> in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/katapult/+bug/59104 I had trouble getting launchpad to link to the KDE bug tracker
[06:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59104 in katapult "Katapult doesn't update as new packages are installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[06:52] <ash211> could you take a look at it for me, please?
[06:52] <imbrandon> got the upstream bug number handy ?
[06:52] <ash211> KDE bug 134884
[06:52] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 134884 in general "Katapult should update itself when new programs are installed" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134884
[06:55] <imbrandon> fixed
[06:55] <imbrandon> katapult product cant use the kde bugtracker ( so you like it from kdebase )
[06:56] <ash211> so you changed the product field to kdebase after clicking on add to upstream?
[06:56] <imbrandon> yes
[06:57] <ash211> why can katapult not use the kde bugtracker?
[06:57] <imbrandon> katapult product
[06:57] <imbrandon> its the way mez set it up
[06:57] <imbrandon> as malone as the main bugtracker for his project ( katapult )
[06:57] <ash211> oh, ok
[06:58] <ash211> keep all the bugs in one place
[06:58] <imbrandon> right for katapult only
[06:58] <imbrandon> but that dont stop people from reporting them in bugs.kde.org ;)
[06:58] <ash211> was it worth my trouble to add that to KDE's bugtracker then?
[06:58] <imbrandon> not really as mez is a kubuntu developer and upstream for that project ;)
[06:59] <imbrandon> but its ok
[06:59] <ash211> live a little, learn a little less.  it'll work out
[06:59] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63098 in tilda (universe) "Crashed after changing hotkey" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63098
[07:06] <ash211> imbrandon: can you check bug 62737
[07:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62737 in amarok "cant  add new sources to play list" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62737
[07:06] <ash211> are you running edgy?
[07:07] <imbrandon> yes
[07:08] <imbrandon> being one of the developers i run the latest most of the time
[07:09] <ash211> you do coding on amarok?
[07:10] <imbrandon> no i'm a kubuntu developer ( just the amarok packager for it )
[07:10] <imbrandon> https://launchpad.net/people/imrbandon ;)
[07:10] <ash211> i was actually just there...
[07:10] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:12] <ash211> are amarok bugs tracked on KDE's tracker?
[07:12] <imbrandon> the ones for upstream yes
[07:12] <imbrandon> ok fixed up bug 62737 for ya
[07:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62737 in amarok "cant  add new sources to play list" [Wishlist,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62737
[07:14] <ash211> thanks
[07:14] <ash211> who's in charge of release notes?
[07:14] <Hobbsee> the doc team, i think
[07:15] <ash211> i'm just wondering how the docs of that bug's change will make it into the docs
[07:15] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee
[07:15] <Hobbsee> heya
[07:16] <imbrandon> ash211, i will put it there when the release notes are being drafted ;)
[07:16] <ash211> thanks
[07:16] <imbrandon> it was already on mt TODO
[07:16] <imbrandon> s/mt/my
[07:18] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, amarok bugs below 30, yay \o/, still going through some more
[07:18] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:18] <imbrandon> seeing if i can get it below 10 today
[07:18] <Hobbsee> nice work :)
[07:18] <Hobbsee> kopete bugs are below 10 :)
[07:18] <imbrandon> hehe
[07:18] <Hobbsee> mind you, some are still stuck in kdenetwork, under NEEDSINFO, so....
[07:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: who's in charge of konversation?  you, right?
[07:19] <imbrandon> yea thats alot of these
[07:19] <imbrandon> yea
[07:19] <Hobbsee> they're 0.11 bugs.  either tell me that tehy're still there in 0.12, else i'll close them.
[07:19] <imbrandon> ye i havent hit the konversation bugs in a while
[07:19] <imbrandon> i might do that before i goto bed
[07:21] <Hobbsee> i might have a look thru a bit later
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63099 in apport (main) "apport is running with nice +5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63099
[07:21] <Hobbsee> depends on how much longer it takes me to get this assignment written
[07:21] <Hobbsee> i need another flash of brilliance :P
[07:22] <imbrandon> hehe
[07:22] <imbrandon> make it opensource and we all can help ;)
[07:22] <imbrandon> lol
[07:22] <Hobbsee> *g*
[07:22] <Hobbsee> i wish
[07:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63100 in inkscape (main) "Inkscape doesn't associate itself with .svg files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63100
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63101 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "forward and back buttons show artifacts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63101
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63103 in tango-icon-theme (main) "Missing icon for mime-type (cause incompatibility with dapper)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63103
[07:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63104 in Ubuntu "caps lock led doesn't work on the virtual terminals" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63104
[08:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63102 in samba (main) "Cannot browse Windows Work Groups" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63102
[08:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63105 in adept (main) "Adept crashes and locks the database." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63105
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63107 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Current gtk+ has a critical bug crashing apps, please upgrade gtk+." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63107
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63108 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "LegacyHuman Theme has not been Cairo-ified" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63108
[08:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63109 in at-spi (main) "at-spi crashed for unknown reson" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63109
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63110 in Ubuntu "HP DeskJet 3650" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63110
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63111 in synaptic (main) "synaptic should be able to tell you which repository a package came from" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63111
[09:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63112 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus crashed after folder changing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63112
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63113 in Ubuntu "Realplay crashes on opening Deutsche Welle video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63113
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63114 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "Human progress bar shading does not line up properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63114
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63115 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "no sound from speakers after suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63115
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63116 in nautilus (main) "when doing a file copy nautilus should provide noclobber as a button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63116
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63117 in edgy-gdm-themes (main) "Not enough contrast with red Text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63117
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63118 in kdebase (main) "kdesktop crashes on startup of edgy beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63118
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63119 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "Human missing Trash, Network, Computer, Open Folder SVGs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63119
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63120 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "irda do not work (nsc-ircc, unable to allocate dma=4)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63120
[10:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63121 in Ubuntu "card in not automounted (tifm supported 5-in-1 card reader) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63121
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63122 in revelation (universe) "Relevation on edgy spits out errors when changing entries" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63122
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63124 in anjuta (universe) "Version 2.02 - About dialogue does not close properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63124
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63123 in acpi-support (main) "battery info does not change after hibernate (HP nw8240)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63123
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63125 in linux-meta (main) "[edgy]  X crashes when logging in running linux-generic-2.6.17-10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63125
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63126 in anjuta (universe) "Version 2.0.2: Enabled plugins are not saved (edgy)" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63126
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63127 in openoffice.org (main) "The Finnish spell checker in OpenOffice.org does more harm than good" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63127
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63128 in adept (main) "adept-notifier crashes since i upgraded to edgy beta1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63128
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63129 in anjuta (universe) "Anjuta 2.02 does not support single-file builds" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63129
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63130 in amarok (main) "Amarok does not play *.shn files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63130
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63131 in libnss-ldap (universe) "UVF Exception for libnss-ldap 251-5.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63131
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63132 in fuse (main) "fuse-utils 2.5.3-2.1ubuntu3  installation (edgy) crashes in post installation phase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63132
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63133 in vim (main) "vim tiny: wrong handling of german umlauts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63133
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63134 in Ubuntu "Kernel panic - not syncing, when installing Edgy Beta1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63134
[11:33] <ajmitch> quite a flood of new bugs post-beta
[11:38] <pradeep> how do i tag a bug which has also been reported upstream?
[11:40] <ajmitch> follow the 'also affects upstream' link
[11:40] <ajmitch> enter the upstream product name (if it's not on lp, I suspect you have to quickly register it)
[11:40] <ajmitch> and the remote bugtracker
[11:40] <ajmitch> I'll check on the registering product
[11:41] <pradeep> ajmitch the remote bug tracker is not on the list
[11:41] <pradeep> http://oss.codepoet.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=185  (malone : 63122)
[11:41] <Ubugtu> oss.codepoet.no bug 185 in General "Error spew/crash when trying to view or edit any entries" [Critical,New]
[11:41] <ajmitch> right..
[11:43] <ajmitch> I hope they work over the remote bug trackers soon :)
[11:43] <pradeep> but how did ubugtu get that info?
[11:43] <ajmitch> it can parse the url
[11:43] <pradeep> oh ok
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63135 in vlc (universe) "vlc cannot play rtsp stream from freebox anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63135
[11:45] <ajmitch> right, not sure if you can add the remote bug tracker on a product you haven't registered
[11:45] <ajmitch> which is rather irritating
[11:46] <ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugtrackers
[11:46] <ajmitch> looks like you have to add a global bugtracker, not one on the product
[11:46] <ajmitch> nice & logical, no? ;)
[11:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63136 in evince (main) "Can't go to specified pages in fullscreen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63136
[11:47] <pradeep> So I register this bugtracker?
[11:47] <ajmitch> yes
[11:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63138 in update-manager (main) "failed to upgrade to edgy " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63138
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63137 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  TTY blank whith 'vga=791' and strange keyboard behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63137
[12:04] <pradeep> phew.. done :)
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63139 in gnome-applets (main) "Invest doesn't work with Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63139
[12:09] <pradeep> ajmitch, one more question...on the remote bug tracker the status is 'NEW' and importance is 'Critical' .. will those get reflected on malone? coz currently it says 'unknown'
[12:09] <pschulz01> Should #63095 be maked as a duplicate of #58423 (as mantioned in comments). Who can close this one?
[12:09] <ajmitch> they will
[12:09] <ajmitch> it takes time to update
[12:10] <pschulz01> ajmitch: Cheers..
[12:10] <pradeep> oh ok .. thanks :)
[12:10] <ajmitch> I think it happens daily or every few hours
[12:10] <ajmitch> pschulz01: hm?
[12:10] <pradeep> pschulz01, he was responding to me :)
[12:10] <pschulz01> I was actually just reading the bugs...
[12:10] <ajmitch> pschulz01: you can mark as dupe & close
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63140 in Ubuntu "PPC Dapper => Edgy fails on gsfonts-x11 and unifont" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63140
[12:11] <pschulz01> Done
[12:11] <pschulz01> Although.. hos do I close?
[12:12] <pschulz01> how?
[12:13] <pschulz01> That should have been a dup of 58424.
[12:16] <pschulz01> (Do I need to be in the Bug team for that?)
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63141 in php5 (main) "PHP (cli) exits with a segfault if pg_connect() called." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63141
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63142 in Ubuntu "PPC Dapper => Edgy fails on belocs-locales-bin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63142
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63143 in rhythmbox (main) "problems with rhythmbox and xubuntu 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63143
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63144 in xmms (main) "Clicking on the double size button crashes XMMS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63144
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63145 in kde-i18n-de (main) "No kde language pack different from US is installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63145
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63146 in mono (main) "mono crashed when starting beagle at login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63146
[12:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63147 in Ubuntu "keyboard very unresponsive / often missing keypresses" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63147
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63148 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-client-kde behaves incorrectly in Edgy (beta)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63148
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62403 in ant (main) "xslt core task fails to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62403
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63149 in language-pack-de (main) "Locale of KDM is not set to the wanted localisation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63149
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63150 in Ubuntu "gtk2-engines-murrine to add into universe fast please" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63150
[01:11] <pschulz01> Anyone here using Dapper/Gnone and can check a menu item for me?
[01:12] <pschulz01> I'm looking inti #63147
[01:21] <pepsiman> yep
[01:22] <pradeep> Can someone close this bug : #63139.
[01:24] <pepsiman> pradeep: what's stopping you?
[01:25] <pradeep> pepsiman, I don't have an option to close the bug
[01:25] <pepsiman> set it to rejected
[01:27] <pradeep> pepsiman, i only see the option to mark it as a duplicate
[01:27] <pepsiman> in the table under the title, click on "gnome-applets (Ubuntu)"
[01:27] <pepsiman> then change the Status to rejected
[01:28] <pepsiman> add a comment and save changes
[01:29] <pradeep> pepsiman, thanks ! done :)
[01:31] <pepsiman> !info xfonts-utils edgy
[01:31] <ubotu> xfonts-utils: X Window System font utility programs. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 70 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63151 in apport (main) "[Edgy]  Some strings can't be translated" [Undecided,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63151
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63152 in Ubuntu "[Edgy-Beta]  vesa driver for an ATI 9600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63152
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63155 in usplash (main) "still have test pattern usplash after dist-upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63155
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63153 in grub (main) "lost grub after dist-upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63153
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63154 in spca5xx (universe) "[Edgy-Beta]  Light on on Labtec Webcam Pro" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63154
[01:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63156 in usplash (main) "usplash use incorrect frequency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63156
[01:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63157 in bzr (main) "bzr should either depend on python2.5 or remove python2.5 specific code from postinst" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63157
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63158 in eciadsl (universe) "new shell in Edgy causes package to not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63158
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63160 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "Tabs do not have Tango/Clearlooks style anymore in 0.5.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63160
[02:33] <Hobbsee> bug 60053
[02:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60053 in linux-source-2.6.17 "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60053
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63162 in ubiquity (main) "Ubiquity crashes after partitioning step with accessibility enabled." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63162
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63163 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "ndiswrapper doesn't work in 2.6.17-10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63163
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63161 in alacarte (main) "Edgy: Alacarte crash" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63161
[02:44] <secretlondon> hi
[02:45] <finalbeta> Hello, can someone help me? I posted a bugreport. Someone rated is as a duplicate of some other bug. But I'm not sure I agree. More over, I find what is causing the bug on my system. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/63161
[02:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63161 in alacarte "Edgy: Alacarte crash" [Undecided,Rejected]
[02:45] <finalbeta> Not sure how I should proceed, But when marked duplicate, it might get forgotten.
[02:45] <secretlondon> i'll have a look
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63164 in Ubuntu "Edgy: Konqueror doesn't show Hard Disk in system:/media" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63164
[02:47] <secretlondon> finalbeta: I agree it's the same bug. It won't get forgotten - you should add your comment to the other bug number so everything gets kept together
[02:48] <pepsiman> looks like a different bug to me
[02:48] <finalbeta> Ok
[02:48] <finalbeta> Well, now that I think about it, I'm not sure the crashes and the \r are even the same bug (altho I did find them in the same spot)
[02:48] <pepsiman> open another bug then
[02:50] <secretlondon> finalbeta: one thing that is really helpful is to put backtraces in as files rather than pasting them into the comment box.
[02:50] <finalbeta> I think I should open a new bug, I can reproduce the \r problem. but not the crashes. Ok, I will secretlondon
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63165 in Ubuntu "<3>BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#1!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63165
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63166 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany no longer shows up as a browser in Preferred Applications capplet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63166
[02:50] <finalbeta> But the bugreports don't let you add a file to the first post
[02:50] <finalbeta> only to repies. That kindoff sucks.
[02:51] <pepsiman> you can reply immediately
[02:51] <matid> finalbeta: Then add a bug report and then attach a file
[02:51] <secretlondon> finalbeta: thanks. It makes it easier for those people who use dial up etc
[02:51] <matid> finalbeta: I also think that your bug is a duplicate of 60933. Having \r in the menu entry doesn't cause any crash on my PC
[02:52] <finalbeta> matid, I know. But it's confusing, I find the \r problem in the same command that crashes alacarte for me.
[02:53] <finalbeta> i'll leave it be for now, and open a separate one for the \r
[02:53] <secretlondon> finalbeta: add any other info on the first issue to 60933
[02:53] <matid> finalbeta: I think that your problem was caused by \r, but it'd be the same with any other utf-8 character. It seems that alcatre has some problems with utf-8 normalization.
[02:53] <finalbeta> secretlondon, the \r is not the same problem.
[02:54] <secretlondon> finalbeta: i know. I meant the initial problme
[02:54] <finalbeta> matid, yes, probably.
[02:55] <matid> finalbeta: But feel free to file a bug that \r shouldn't be replaced by a carriage return.
[02:56] <matid> My alcatre just crashed ;)
[02:56] <finalbeta> You are trying the command I used?
[02:56] <matid> No, I added some \r's though
[02:56] <finalbeta> yeah, it could all be related :p
[03:02] <matid> finalbeta: Anyway, \r being replaced withinn the command field is undoubtely a bug, please feel free to file it. About the alcatre crash, I don't think it's \r related, it's rather something with utf-8, as the backtrace suggests.
[03:02] <matid> finalbeta: Personally, I'd leave it as a duplicate and add any further comments there.
[03:03] <finalbeta> matid, (filing the \r now) and quoting some of the stuff said in here
[03:05] <matid> finalbeta: Ok
[03:10] <matid> finalbeta: You did get me wrong though. I refered to the bug crashing alcatre in that sentence. Not all utf-8 characters are replaced incorrectly.
[03:11] <finalbeta> matid, ok, reading it again it's still confusing.
[03:12] <finalbeta> Please reply to the bug post then.
[03:12] <finalbeta> I have to go fix an alarm system.
[03:12] <finalbeta> Later.
[03:12] <matid> I'll alter the description
[03:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63167 in update-manager (main) "Attempt to upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 6.10 Beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63167
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63168 in alacarte (main) "replaces \r by carriage return" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63168
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63169 in koffice-l10n (main) "Error installing on Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63169
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63171 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic too slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63171
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63172 in vim (main) "Better vimrc default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63172
[03:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63173 in 915resolution (universe) "915resolution is not started by upstart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63173
[03:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63174 in update-manager (main) "[Edgy]  The string "Details" is translated into Spanish, but appears untranslated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63174
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63175 in Ubuntu "Edgy Beta -- fsck on every (re)boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63175
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63176 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Can't connect to my Kubuntu laptop to my WPA enabled network." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63176
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63177 in deskbar-applet (main) "Previous text is not deleted or at least selected upon next deskbar usage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63177
[04:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63178 in ubiquity (main) "[Edgy Beta]  Xkb group switching option missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63178
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63179 in Ubuntu "nm-applet icon wrongly installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63179
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63180 in Ubuntu "Digital camera mounted, but not displayed on the desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63180
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63181 in smartdimmer (main) "smartdimmer hangs with nvidia 7400 geforce go" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63181
[04:33] <bddebian> Boo
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63182 in Ubuntu "fglrxinfo returns mesa drivers in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63182
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63183 in update-manager (main) "Could not install 'python-setuptools'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63183
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63184 in Ubuntu "ethernet with dhcp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63184
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63185 in Ubuntu "[Edgy Eft]  Metacity doesn't load after login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63185
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63186 in Ubuntu "Flash Crashes Page- Ubuntu Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63186
[04:52] <drew> would anyone like to give me a hand with this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/60231
[04:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60231 in linux-source-2.6.17 "wg511 pccard not loaded (regression: dapper -> edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[05:00] <tuhl> hi I have still problems upgrading to the current edgy packets
[05:00] <tuhl> python2.4-minimal is not installable
[05:02] <drew> tuhl: how are you upgrading?
[05:03] <tuhl> I upgraded via dist-ugrade
[05:03] <tuhl> the I tried a apt-get update
[05:06] <tuhl> the setup of python2.4-minimal package fails
[05:06] <tuhl> ValueError: empty set of versions
[05:08] <drew> tuhl: weird.
[05:09] <drew> tuhl: upgraded from dapper, yes?
[05:11] <pepsiman> tuhl: I think I've seen that one, upgrade python first
[05:12] <Hobbsee> tuhl: yes, it's replaced by python-minimal
[05:12] <Hobbsee> upgrade python first yes
[05:12] <pepsiman> there's a missing versioned depends somewhere
[05:14] <tuhl> drew: yes it was an update from dapper
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63187 in yelp (main) "can't use PageUp/PageDown in search results" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63187
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63188 in lastfm (universe) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63188
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63189 in initramfs-tools (main) "No aspell-id in Ubuntu 6.10 'Edgy Eft' beta PPC64." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63189
[05:16] <drew> tuhl: I was going to suggest a similar approach to pepsiman and Hobbsee
[05:16] <Hobbsee> indeed...clearly there isnt.
[05:17] <drew> tuhl: ie, try upgrading the specific packages that fail... gah - gone
[05:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63190 in firefox (main) "Firefox in Edgy Crashed, report attached" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63190
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63191 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "File dialog crash in Edgy (fix upstream)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63191
[05:33] <matid> Hobbsee: Could you possibly come on the next CC meeting? I'm applying for an Ubuntu Member and I though you could plead for me, since we're both in the Ubuntu QA Team.
[05:34] <Hobbsee> matid: a) when is it, in a sydney timezone, and b) it's probably more useful for me to look over your wiki page, as i havent seen you directly triage any bugs, or come across them
[05:35] <matid> a) I'll look it up. b) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MateuszDro%C5%BCd%C5%BCy%C5%84ski
[05:36] <matid> Hobbsee: Oops, sorry to bother you. It's Wed 3am ;)
[05:37] <Hobbsee> matid: nice :)
[05:37] <Hobbsee> ouchy.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> matid: yeah, i wont make that.  page looks good though
[05:38] <Hobbsee> impressive karma
[05:38] <matid> Thanks
[05:39] <matid> I've already asked dholbach and sfllaw to come. They said they most likely would, but I'm trying to gather as many people from Ubuntu QA, Ubuntu Desktop Bugs and Ubuntu BugSquad as possible
[05:42] <Hobbsee> yep
[05:42] <Hobbsee> those two are good :)
[05:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63192 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu web site does not say where I can buy a laptop with Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63192
[05:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63193 in ubiquity (main) "can not install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63193
[05:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63195 in subversion (main) "Mistakes in subversion strings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63195
[05:44] <Hobbsee> matid: deal with #63192 :P
[05:45] <matid> You cought me doing that ;)
[05:45] <Hobbsee> ah :)
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63196 in cohoba (universe) "Impossible to connect to a msn account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63196
[05:48] <bddebian> And that's a bug? :-)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> bddebian: to which?
[05:49] <ash211> i'm guessing the msn account
[05:49] <bddebian> Hobbsee: "Impossible to connect to an msn account" :-)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> bddebian: ahh
[05:50] <ash211> what package should I assign hardware detection bugs to?
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63197 in linux-meta (main) "There is no linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-powerpc64-smp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63197
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63198 in acpi (main) "suspend-to-ram broken in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63198
[05:52] <ash211> is it linux-source-2.6.15 for dapper, .17 for edgy?
[05:52] <matid> Hobbsee: I forgot I can't set the importance on the bugs in different products, what a shame ;)
[05:53] <Hobbsee> matid: i thought you were in qa
[05:53] <Hobbsee> ash211: yes
[05:53] <ash211> hobbsee: thanks
[05:53] <matid> matid: I am, but I forwared bug 63192 upstream (ubuntu-website) and I can't set the importance there
[05:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63192 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu web site does not say where I can buy a laptop with Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63192
[05:54] <Hobbsee> ah yes you canat
[05:54] <Hobbsee> -a
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63200 in gdb (main) "Mistakes in gdb strings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63200
[05:57] <Hobbsee> hi dholbach
[05:57] <dholbach> hi
[05:57] <matid> dholbach: Hello
[05:58] <zul> hi dholbach
[05:58] <matid> dholbach: Enjoying your weekend hanging out on #ubuntu-bugs? ;)
[05:58] <dholbach> I just popped in to ask somebody something ;-)
[06:00] <matid> dholbach: Good that's not workaholism ;)
[06:00] <dholbach> hehe
[06:02] <dholbach> and how are you guys doin? :)
[06:03] <matid> Fine, thanks. I'm still not able to make Gossip work with Telepathy though
[06:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63201 in firefox (main) "spreadsheet.google.com freezes the whole system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63201
[06:27] <pepsiman> matid: thanks for confirming 63200
[06:29] <matid> pepsiman: No problem :)
[06:30] <pepsiman> I have lots more strings bugs that need confirming
[06:30] <pepsiman> and/or submitting upstream
[06:31] <matid> If you want you can subscribe me to those bugs, I'll try to confirm them and forward upstream if needed.
[06:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63202 in anjuta (universe) "/usr/bin/create_global_tags.sh: 3: function: not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63202
[06:35] <pepsiman> matid: let me know if you want more
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63203 in adept (main) "Unable to manage repos through Adept GUI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63203
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63204 in update-manager (main) ""The upgrade aborts now" - except it doesn't" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63204
[06:39] <matid> pepsiman: Ok, feel free to list some (or subscribe me to them)
[06:39] <pepsiman> matid: you're not notified when I subscribe you?
[06:40] <matid> pepsiman: Have you already done that? I haven't found any new bugs on my subscribed bugs page
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63205 in update-manager (main) "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63205
[06:40] <pepsiman> 58507 61092 61151
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63206 in r-base (universe) "font path isn't correct set either in R or X [Edgy] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63206
[06:43] <matid> It seems I won't get notified before something is changed in the bug report (a comment added, etc.)
[06:43] <pepsiman> yeah
[06:43] <matid> pepsiman: By the way, you're from the UK, aren't you?
[06:43] <pepsiman> yes
[06:44] <matid> I've been wondering which university is said to be better when it comes to the computer science - Cambridge or Oxford?
[06:45] <pepsiman> I don't know, I went to Bristol
[06:45] <pepsiman> probably about the same, just choose the more interesting course for you
[06:46] <matid> Ok, thanks anyway. I'll most likely be moving to the UK in two years or so and don't know which university should I enroll to.
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63207 in gtk+2.0 (main) "No html files to Gtk+ Faq and Gtk+ Tutorial" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63207
[06:47] <matid> I though there might be some differences peoples that are into IT in the UK might know. For example, everyone knows that in Poland the best university when it comes to CS is the University of Warsaw, even though there are many others.
[06:49] <matid> I meant that everyone in Poland knows ;)
[06:49] <pepsiman> there are course differences - theory / practical, whether linux is used, etc.
[06:56] <matid> pepsiman: Ok, thanks
[06:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63208 in libwnck (main) "Patches For Compiz/Beryl Compatibility" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63208
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63209 in Ubuntu "Install edgy eft breaks compatibility Realtek 8169/8110 NIC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63209
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63210 in update-manager (main) "download part - scary statisitics and uninterruptible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63210
[07:07] <matid> pepsiman: About bug 61092, should "disc" really be used when talking about a CD?
[07:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61092 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all "mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb contains incorrect translations of "disk" (both dapper and edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/61092
[07:08] <matid> pepsiman: It's rather more common to refer to the compact disks in computer stories as "disks"
[07:08] <matid> pepsiman: On the other hand, when talking about an audio CD in a music store, I'd say "compact disc".
[07:09] <matid> pepsiman: I'm not a native speaker though ;)
[07:09] <pepsiman> the audio industry can spell, the computer industry can't
[07:09] <pepsiman> CDs were created by the audio industry
[07:09] <pepsiman> Compact Disc is correct
[07:09] <pepsiman> as is Digital Versatile Disc  and Mini-Disc
[07:10] <pepsiman> But it's Hard Disk Drive, Floppy Disk Drive
[07:11] <matid> I have to agree with you when you use them as trademarks, but I've been taught to use compact disc when referring to a phonograph record and compact disk in the other cases
[07:11] <_ion> So when i insert a ZIP disk to my sampler (while making music), it's a ZIP disc? ;-)
[07:12] <pepsiman> it's a ZIP disk
[07:13] <_ion> I was only joking.
[07:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63211 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird crashes and burns" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63211
[07:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63212 in monodevelop (universe) "monodevelop won't start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63212
[07:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63213 in gcompris (main) "Finnish sounds do not work." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63213
[07:15] <matid> Ok, it seems I'll have to get used to the "compact disc" spelling ;)
[07:16] <pepsiman> matid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8amhWi26.html
[07:16] <matid> pepsiman: I've read that a minute ago
[07:16] <pepsiman> ah cool
[07:16] <matid> s/\'ve//
[07:16] <pepsiman> do we agree that firefox is wrong with Hard Disc?
[07:17] <matid> pepsiman: I agreeded on it from the very beginning, I just wasn't sure with the CDs ;)
[07:17] <matid> pepsiman: I've already confirmed your bug
[07:17] <pepsiman> good
[07:18] <pepsiman> ok, don't have the mail yet
[07:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63214 in python-cjkcodecs (universe) "shouldn't be priority standard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63214
[07:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63215 in courier (main) "Mistake in courier-mta.templates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63215
[07:42] <pepsiman> matid: another one ^^^
[07:47] <matid> Hi seb128
[07:47] <seb128> hi matid
[07:53] <matid> pepsiman: Done
[07:54] <pepsiman> that one can probably go to debian
[07:54] <matid> pepsiman: I know, I'll forward it.
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63216 in bayonne (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild for libcommoncpp2-1.4-0 soname change" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63216
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63217 in libccrtp (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild for libcommoncpp2-1.4-0 soname change" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63217
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63218 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade to 6.10 (Edgy) from 6.06 (Dapper) failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63218
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63219 in pppoeconf (main) "pppoeconf wont work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63219
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63220 in libccscript3 (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild for libcommoncpp2-1.4-0 soname change" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63220
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63221 in kopete (main) "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63221
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63222 in ld.so (universe) "Inconsistency detected by ld.so" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63222
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63223 in phpldapadmin (universe) "Dependencies incorrect when two versions of php installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63223
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63224 in openoffice.org2 (main) "Impress crashes when creating minuature views on the side pane" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63224
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63225 in Ubuntu "No support for PCI DVB cards at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63225
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63226 in python-apt (main) "SEGV in python-apt with python2.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63226
[09:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63227 in gok (main) "[edgy]  gok crash at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63227
[09:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63229 in oregano (universe) "Wrong place in the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63229
[09:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63228 in Ubuntu "Sound not working on Asus F3J" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63228
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63230 in firefox (main) "firefox crah after opening totem in a tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63230
[09:29] <Adri2000> hey :)
[09:29] <matid> Hi Adri2000
[09:29] <Adri2000> one question: can I reject bugs when people are using unofficial repositories?
[09:29] <Adri2000> such as bug 63205
[09:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63205 in update-manager "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63205
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63231 in nautilus (main) "nautilus search does not handle accents " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63231
[09:33] <matid> Adri2000: I think it's ok to reject it, I'm not 100% sure though. I don't know of any policy that'd settle this kind of issue
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63232 in egroupware (universe) "egroupware "php-fpdf" package dependency error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63232
[09:35] <matid> Personally, I'd reject it, leaving a polite comment that the bug is caused by a third-party repository and Ubuntu is not responsible for maintaining it.
[09:37] <matid> You can also suggest the reporter to remove the external repository from /etc/apt/sources.list and try again.
[09:39] <_ion> The problem is probably something like this: the external dapper repository contains a newer version some package than official edgy has, and e.g. ubuntu-desktop depends on that package. A naive dist-upgrade (as in apt-get, but not e.g. aptitude or smart) refuses to downgrade it.
[09:40] <_ion> s/probably/possibly/, i'm not _that_ sure. :-)
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63233 in easytag (universe) "Easytag crashed while saving changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63233
[09:47] <matid> Adri2000: I rejected it and left an expanation note to the user.
[09:48] <matid> s/to/for/
[09:49] <Adri2000> matid: I had the same problem and managed to fix it without removing the external repository
[09:50] <matid> Adri2000: By what means?
[09:52] <matid> Adri2000: Anyway, it was only my suggestion, I didn't deny other options.
[09:54] <matid> Adri2000: It's just that removing the external repository should be the most secure
[09:54] <Adri2000> matid: removing problematic packages, and then reinstalling it, no depency problem anymore
[09:54] <matid> Adri2000: It's almost the same. I just suggested removing the external repository during the upgrade stage, it should work in the same way.
[09:55] <matid> Adri2000: And I suggested reinstalling the software afterwards
[09:56] <Adri2000> ok
[09:57] <Adri2000> then I reject bug 63218 which is the same
[09:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63218 in update-manager "Upgrade to 6.10 (Edgy) from 6.06 (Dapper) failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63218
[09:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63234 in Ubuntu "installer unable to format xfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63234
[09:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63235 in debian-installer (main) "can't format software raid in edgy beta (amd64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63235
[09:58] <matid> Adri2000: Ok, mark it as a duplicate of 63205 too.
[09:59] <matid> Or rather only mark it as a duplicate
[09:59] <Adri2000> I don't know how to mark a bug as duplicate
[09:59] <jjesse> along the left hand side if i recall correclty there is mark bug as duplicate?
[09:59] <matid> There is a menu on the left, third link from the top says:
[09:59] <matid> "Mark as Duplicate"
[10:00] <matid> Sorry, the second link from the top
[10:00] <Adri2000> ok
[10:00] <matid> Then you enter the bug number
[10:00] <jjesse> grin i just didn't have a launchpad window infront of me :)
[10:00] <matid> You don't have to reject the bug afterwards since it won't appear in the Malone anymore
[10:01] <matid> jjesse: I virually always have one opened ;)
[10:01] <matid> jjesse: With new Unconfirmed and Undecided bugs :)
[10:03] <matid> Adri2000: When you triage bugs, the first thing you should do is to look for duplicates
[10:04] <matid> Adri2000: On the right you have a box entitled "Search *** bugs:" and on the bottom of this box you should have 'Show all open bugs'
[10:05] <matid> Adri2000: When you click it, you'll see a list of all bugs opened in given package
[10:05] <matid> Adri2000: You should look for a bugs that are similar and check if the bug you triage is a duplicate or not
[10:06] <matid> Adri2000: It will save you lots of work with triaging this bug and it also helps developers, because they have less bugs to follow.
[10:06] <Adri2000> yep I do that (see my comment on bug 63205), that's just I didn't know how to mark as duplicate in launchpad :)
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63205 in update-manager "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63205
[10:07] <Adri2000> 63218 I mean
[10:22] <matid> Adri2000: You shouldn't mark duplicated as rejected. If the report you linked to is rejected the reporter of the duplicated bug will be notified about it.
[10:23] <Adri2000> ok, and the duplicated bug should also automatically appear as rejected in launchpad ?
[10:23] <matid> No, it appears as a duplicate
[10:24] <matid> But by default, duplicated are not being displayed anywhere
[10:24] <matid> s/duplicated/duplicates
[10:26] <matid> Adri2000: It's better to leave its previous status since if it turned out that it is not a duplicate after all, it'd be easier to revert the changes
[10:29] <Adri2000> so a duplicated bug of a fixed bug can appear as unconfirmed. if someone has a link of the duplicate and doesn't know very good launchpad, he can believe that the bug is not fixed :/
[10:31] <matid> Adri2000: If he was subscribed to the bug that you marked as a duplicate, he will also automatically be subscribed to the bug you pointed.
[10:31] <matid> Adri2000: So he'll get an email that the bug is fixed
[10:31] <Adri2000> ok, I will remember for the next time
[10:32] <matid> Adri2000: It is nothing serious really, noone would scold you because of it ;)
[10:33] <matid> Adri2000: But that's what I was told to do some time ago ;)
[10:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63238 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "kubuntu-default-settings fails to install, when foomatic isn't installed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63238
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63237 in php-fpdf (universe) "Please sync php-fpdf 1.53.dfsg-4 from Debian Sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63237
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63239 in update-manager (main) "Could not calculate upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63239
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63240 in grub (main) "update-grub overrides /etc/default/grub" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63240
[10:42] <Adri2000> matid: one second I thought the last bug in update-manager was another one with xgl repository :P
[10:43] <Adri2000> it would have been a good training for me to mark package as duplicate :p
[10:45] <matid> Adri2000: ;)
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63241 in xt (universe) "Xtraceroute crashed trying to add info on an IP " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63241
[11:17] <matid> Good night, everyone. I'm gonna get some sleep ;)
[11:19] <pepsiman> night
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63242 in mozilla-firefox (main) "Unstyled buttons doesn't use Ubuntu's theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63242
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63243 in gnome-speech (main) "Segfault running orca" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63243
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63244 in vim (main) "Syntax Highlighting doesn't work at all" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63244


[07:14] <citroniks> hi to all
[07:15] <citroniks> in pi2 snappy not updating please help me in advance thanks
[07:38] <devil> citroniks: what did you try to make it update?
[08:04] <citroniks>  "sudo snappy update ubuntu-core "
[08:32] <devil> citroniks: what does 'sudo
[08:32] <devil> snappy versions -a' tell you
[08:32] <devil> and you should use my nickname so I get notified, I do not stare at this channel
[08:33] <citroniks> devil, ok ok in pi snappy has gui
[08:34] <devil> citroniks: what are you trying to say?
[08:36] <citroniks> devil, in raspberry pi 2 snappy os im getting only terminal i want to graphical user  interface
[08:36] <devil> citroniks: snappy has no gui
[08:37] <devil> what are you trying to do with snappy?
[08:37] <citroniks> devil, run some qt application now only installed snappy os in pi
[08:38] <citroniks> devil, im new to snappy os
[08:39] <devil> citroniks: what does 'sudo
[08:39] <devil> snappy versions -a' tell you
[08:40] <citroniks> it showing error "server certificate verification failed "
[08:41] <devil> hm, no idea, I have not used snappy lately, but never had such a problem
[08:41] <devil> this channel is pretty dead on weekends, so you might have more luck on monday
[08:42] <citroniks> devil, thank you so much  have a good weekend


[13:11] <TJ__> if i want to upstart something when dbus is started, the syntax would be: start on started dbus      right ?
[13:12] <jhunt> right
[13:24] <TJ__> thanks
[19:24] <reed> how would I cd to a directory and execute a command as user "nobody"?
[19:43] <ion> exec su -s /bin/sh -ec 'cd /path; exec "$0" "$@"' username -- command arg arg
[19:43] <ion> probably
[19:53] <reed> that works, and I found the command chdir
[20:05] <ion> I wasn’t sure whether su changes the directory. Probably not without --login.


playback when using web discord to talk with people (re @rscholar: What's the issue now? Is it still with playback or is it the recording side?)


[22:08] <Naeddyr> hello, I would like to make a change in a wiki-article, and I'm wondering on whose toes I should stomp on?
[22:09] <Naeddyr> should I*
[22:11] <Naeddyr> eh, i'll just leave a message.
[22:14] <Naeddyr> Based on this forum trouble-shooting thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1607134 I would like to change the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet/ so that instead of suggesting that the user creates a usr/share/X11/xorg-conf.d/10-aiptek.conf file, the conf file be named 50-aiptek.conf instead. i'm not sure whether i should make the change, though, because, for all I know (though it seems implausible), it
[22:14] <Naeddyr>  might break something on someone's computer. should I just add an alternative suggestion?
[22:21] <Naeddyr> there, alternative suggestion added. :)
[22:21] <Naeddyr> have a good night!


[00:03] <OvenWerks> does F11 work?
[00:04] <OvenWerks> (just a guess cause that is the FF full screen toggle)
[00:12] <OvenWerks> linuxgecko: alt-F11 seems to work here
[04:16] <linuxgecko> OvenWerks: that worked.  i tried f11,   it was alt-F11 that worked.
[07:43] <brogan[m]> I've been using the beta, do I need to do anything special to upgrade to official? or is `apt upgrade` enough? Forgive my ignorance 😁
[07:44] <Maik> brogan[m]: if you installed the beta and kept it up to date you have the final stable release.
[07:45] <brogan[m]> Brilliant, thank you.
[07:45] <Maik> it's known for years, a quick search on the web should have answered that for you :)
[07:45] <Maik> yw
[15:51] <bengan> Not a question. Just FYI. Odd thing with ardour 6.3 and new installation of ubuntustudio 20.10. I made a backup of my 19.10 and then installed the new 20.10. after I restored the backup I restarted and started ardour. I had massive xruns. looking at the processes, I had both jackdbus and jackd running. I killed jackd and then carla, ardour and some other crashed. after restarting ardour there was still massive xruns. so I made a new user and copied
[15:51] <bengan> one ardour project. I made all nessesery configs in studio controls and started ardour. still xruns. so I started dabbling with period and buffer size. I had to go very high not to have xruns. so I started a new project and configured it as the other project. no xruns. I went back to my original project and turned off Dragonfly Reverb. no xruns. I turned it on again. no xruns.
[17:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> bengan: That's expected. Everybody's hardware is different and reponds to the Linux kernel differently. Figuring out what works for YOU is completely normal. That' not a bug, nor any sort of an issue.
[18:39] <narsiteo[m]> Actualicé a Ubuntu Studio 20.10 que ahora viene con KDE plasma... Y no reconoce mi tarjeta gráfica y solo me permite una resolucion de 800x600. Cómo puedo tener mi resolución a 1200x1096?
[18:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> !es | narsiteo[m]
[18:46] <sakrecoer[m]> nooo... medium size hoodies are out of stock?!
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> <sakrecoer[m] "nooo... medium size hoodies are "> What???
[18:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: Which one?
[18:48] <sakrecoer[m]> https://shop.spreadshirt.com/ubuntustudio/ubuntu+studio+alternative+logo+white-A5f8674a22051765d9a49b2f6?productType=20&sellable=rAGJX5k5x9SM1jkv9xV9-20-22&appearance=338
[18:49] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: Did you see this one? https://shop.spreadshirt.com/ubuntustudio/ubuntu+studio+alternative+logo+white-A5f8674a22051765d9a49b2f6?productType=1007&sellable=rAGJX5k5x9SM1jkv9xV9-1007-22&appearance=702&size=3
[18:49] <sakrecoer[m]> wait... there are more  models!!! \o/
[18:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: Yep, a whole bunch of different ones.
[18:50] <sakrecoer[m]> omg!!!! caps!!!
[18:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: I spent about two days of full-time work making this shop.
[18:52] <sakrecoer[m]> haha!!! my wallet is very mad at you Eickmeyer 💜💸
[18:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: HAHAHAHAHAHA
[18:55] <sakrecoer[m]> would like one of those with the HUGE logo on the belly in hoodie. they are only in S or XL will it be refurbishhed? or do i just need to build some muscles?
[18:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: I recommend a good workout, but on the other hand, they might be temporarily out of stock.
[18:58] <sakrecoer[m]> <Eickmeyer[m] "徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: I recomm"> ah! well that's great news!! (my wardrobe disagrees of course, but nevermind it 😅)
[18:58] <sakrecoer[m]> i think i'll grab a hat while a wait for hoodies
[18:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: My new hat should be here today!
[19:01] <sakrecoer[m]> wuhu!!! bwoy we gonna be the coolest libsters on the block!!
[19:02] <sakrecoer[m]> ubuntu studio possee reprezent
[19:02] <sakrecoer[m]> which design you took Eickmeyer ?
[19:05] <sakrecoer[m]> i think this is my jam!
[19:05] <sakrecoer[m]> https://shop.spreadshirt.com/ubuntustudio/ubuntu+studio+white+transparent+logo+white+text-A5f8634d91cbf3a2f7a850e69?productType=803&sellable=2L9gnOaGg4I45adgBDg5-803-34&appearance=2&size=29
[19:07] <sakrecoer[m]> haleluliah! i found my hoodie in my size AND my favorite colors!!! \o/
[19:10] <sakrecoer[m]> I don't know if "libster" is a thing. i just made it up as a contraction of libre and hipster 😅
[19:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: This is what I went with: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/ubuntustudio/ubuntu+studio+alternative+logo+white-A5f8674a22051765d9a49b2f6?productType=129&sellable=rAGJX5k5x9SM1jkv9xV9-129-34&appearance=4
[19:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> Libster... I like it. haha
[19:13] <sakrecoer[m]> <Eickmeyer[m] "徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: This is "> cool!! absolutely love that version of the logo!! i was lurking at this one: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/ubuntustudio/ubuntu+studio+blue+logo+with+white+wordmark-A5f8752bf1cbf3a2f7a969246?productType=803&sellable=2L9rq30ewXI45adg5nkQ-803-34&appearance=440&size=29
[19:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's a good one too! I'm actually thinking about uploading a smaller version of the logo in proportion to the words
[19:15] <sakrecoer[m]> are they modern? in the sens that they don't force you to commit to produce and sell a certain amount when you add a design?
[19:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> Nope!
[19:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> They don't force a certain number. They make it when it's ordered.
[19:17] <sakrecoer[m]> very cool! oh bwoy the snapback version with the same logo you're rocking 😍
[19:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> Did you see the computer backpacks?
[19:17] <sakrecoer[m]> no...? haha! help!
[19:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> https://shop.spreadshirt.com/ubuntustudio/accessories+bags+%26+backpacks?q=P48
[19:18] <sakrecoer[m]> aaah! haha heeeeelp!
[19:19] <sakrecoer[m]> i'm about to call.my bank ask for a loan
[19:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> HAHAHAHA
[19:21] <sakrecoer[m]> "i assure you this is a great ides mr. bank. me looking good will certainly be beneficial to something and i'm sure it's profitable"
Ubuntu Studio face mask</del>
[19:22] <bengan> Eickmeyer[m]: It's definitely a upgrade bug in ardour 6.3. I moved the original project to my laptop (other hardware and other linux distro). Exactly the same thing happened. xruns all over until I unchecked and checked DragonFly Reverb in Ardour.  I'd recommend filing a bug report directly with https://github.com/monocasual/dragonfly-reverb
[19:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> bengan: Bad url: https://github.com/michaelwillis/dragonfly-reverb
[19:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's better.
[19:28] <bengan> Eickmeyer[m]: I go there and see what they say. thank's.
[19:28] <Eickmeyer[m]> 徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: Yes. Spend all the things.
[19:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> rgh: Yep, we've got those too! https://shop.spreadshirt.com/ubuntustudio/accessories+face+coverings?q=P193
[19:33] <sakrecoer[m]> face mask (cowboy version), snapback and hoodie.. then i'll make geekster-rap video.
[19:34]  * sakrecoer[m] uploaded an image: a196036a-4d9d-4efd-94e8-a08f9fa883a6.jpg (32KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NcYoAUcVIFlsjhxCdmMtcxOr/a196036a-4d9d-4efd-94e8-a08f9fa883a6.jpg >
[19:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> I can see it now: this music video recorded and edited using Ubuntu Studio
[19:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> (this entire conversation should be in -offtopic/Cafe).
[19:36] <sakrecoer[m]> <Eickmeyer[m] "I can see it now: this music vid"> totally.
[19:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Hahahaha
[19:36] <sakrecoer[m]> i'm broke, but i'm free and i got the swaaaaaaag (autotuned refrain)
[19:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> HAHAHA T-Pain's got nothing!
[19:37] <sakrecoer[m]> <Eickmeyer[m] "HAHAHA T-Pain's got nothing!"> all his base are belong to meeeeeee
[19:47] <sakrecoer[m]> you think i'm joking and stuff lol. but i did it when i was totally broke, couldn't go all the way swagwise though. went with a home-painted pingu snapback. but now i'm only half broke muahaha!
[20:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> Haha!


[12:11] <thresh> hi guys. does anyone run arm64/trusty on x-gene by any chance?
[12:12] <thresh> wonder if the kernel from https://launchpad.net/~santacruz-team/+archive/ubuntu/xgene is better/worse/musthave than the stock from http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/
[12:12] <thresh> I'm on hp m400 machine, if that matters
[13:26] <infinity> thresh: That kernel is (very) outdated, you want to use the archive one.
[13:26] <thresh> ok


[13:00] <theh> I've never used Ubuntu on an arm64 machine before. Is there anything important to take note of (after installation) in terms of configuration and behavior? Any quirks?
[13:00] <theh> (compared to x86, that is)
[13:04] <ogra> not really ... on a userspace level it should not differ at all
[13:04] <ogra> booting/kernels etc are the actual difference ... but if it comes to apps/services you shouldnt expect any big differences between the arches
[13:08] <theh> Ok, thanks!


[00:05] <davecheney> fwereade_: pin
[00:05] <davecheney> ping
[01:27] <davecheney> does goose support the lcy02 region ?
[01:42] <bigjools> perhaps wallyworld_ would know that
[01:42] <wallyworld_> yes, it should
[01:43] <wallyworld_> i've only used the lcy01 region myself, but there's no reason lcy02 should not work
[01:43] <davecheney> wallyworld_: i'm trying to work around the lack of public IP's in lcy01
[01:43] <davecheney> how can I use lcy02 ?
[01:43] <wallyworld_> you can delete some i think
[01:43] <davecheney> different keystone url ?
[01:43] <wallyworld_> to return them to the pool
[01:43] <davecheney> wallyworld_: i never had any to start with
[01:44] <wallyworld_> let me check something'
[01:46] <wallyworld_> davecheney: the keystone url should be the same, you just change OS_REGION_NAME
[01:46] <wallyworld_> to use a different rgion
[01:46] <wallyworld_> i normally use "nova floating-ip-list" to see what floating ips are used
[01:46] <wallyworld_> and then delete them so that they can be re-used
[01:47] <davecheney> wallyworld_: what is the config value in juju/environments.yaml that matches OS_REGION_NAME ? region ? (guess)
[01:48] <davecheney> i don't understand what you mean my delete floating ip's
[01:48] <davecheney> i don't own any floating ips to delete
[01:48] <wallyworld_> should be "region" in the yaml
[01:49] <wallyworld_> i didn't think i owned any floating ips either - i thought there was a pool we could all share
[01:49] <wallyworld_> and we were allowed 2 or 3 each
[01:49] <davecheney> trying lcy02, still don't understand about delete
[01:50] <davecheney> 2013/02/11 12:49:23 JUJU environs/openstack: opening environment "canonistack"
[01:50] <davecheney> 2013/02/11 12:49:23 JUJU environs/openstack: bootstrapping environment "canonistack"
[01:50] <davecheney> 2013/02/11 12:49:28 JUJU environs: searching for tools compatible with version: 1.9.8-quantal-amd64
[01:50] <davecheney> 2013/02/11 12:49:32 JUJU juju bootstrap command failed: cannot start bootstrap instance: cannot allocate a public IP as needed
[01:50] <davecheney> error: cannot start bootstrap instance: cannot allocate a public IP as needed
[01:50] <davecheney> lucky(~) % nova floating-ip-list
[01:50] <davecheney> ^ non
[01:50] <wallyworld_> delete deallocates a floating ip so it can be reused
[01:50] <wallyworld_> nova floating-ip-delete <address>
[01:51] <wallyworld_> hmmm. i see no floating ips either
[01:51] <davecheney> wallyworld_: i have no floating ips too delete
[01:52] <wallyworld_> i could have sworn that there were some around last week
[01:52] <davecheney> wallyworld_: https://pastebin.canonical.com/84346/
[01:52] <davecheney> get a weird error when the region is not known
[01:54] <wallyworld_> the error makes sense given how the internals work - authentication worked and it gave backa list of endpoints per region. the region you had didn't match any so there were no endpoints available
[01:54] <wallyworld_> perhaps the error can be reworded
[01:56] <davecheney> wallyworld_: raise a bug ? or leave it for later ?
[01:57] <wallyworld_> a bug would be great
[01:57] <davecheney> no wukks
[01:57] <wallyworld_> i have no idea about the lack of floating ips though
[01:58] <davecheney> i might have to go groveling back to HP an ask to reopen my hp cloud account
[01:58] <wallyworld_> i really think we should get some canonistack ones so we can devel/test easily etc
[01:59] <davecheney> seconded
[01:59] <davecheney> noted in meeting agenda
[01:59] <wallyworld_> \o/
[02:00] <wallyworld_> davecheney: there is a hp account martin has which he has shared the credentials with the blue squad - i can send you those?
[02:03] <davecheney> wallyworld_: please
[02:03] <davecheney> i forget why I closed my account with HPO
[02:03] <wallyworld_> ok, will find email and send
[02:03] <davecheney> I think they screwed me on billing or something
[02:04] <wallyworld_> email sent
[02:07] <davecheney> danku
[02:07] <wallyworld_> np, anytime
[05:59] <jam> wallyworld_: morning!
[05:59] <wallyworld_> hello, mumble?
[05:59] <jam> davecheney: just as an aside, we've been requested to use the AZ3 compute zone for testing, as it is supposed to be the lowest utilization for canonical.
[06:03] <davecheney> jam: right
[06:03] <davecheney> never heard of that one
[06:07] <davecheney> jam: having trouble connecting to that region
[06:07] <jam> davecheney: we're talking about HP now, right?
[06:07] <davecheney> nope
[06:08] <davecheney> i thought you were talking about canonistack
[06:08] <jam> sorry, yeah on HP cloud we want to use az3, on canonistack we *should* work with lcy02, but my understanding is it has been updated to Grizzly, so isn't quite the same as lcy01
[06:09] <davecheney> jam: i cannot bootstrap in any canonistack regions
[06:09] <davecheney> no EYE PEES availble
[06:31] <jam> davecheney: right, go-juju now connects directly to mongo, so it needs to have a floating IP because the ssh tunnelling doesn't work.
[06:35] <jam> and lcy01 is running out of *virtual* IPs (the region is limited to a class C, and apparently we are running out of that address space)
[06:38] <dimitern> mornings :)
[06:58] <rogpeppe> goood morning!
[06:59] <rogpeppe> davecheney: hiya
[07:02] <davecheney> hi rogpeppe
[07:02] <davecheney> i'm just steppig out to the shops
[07:02] <davecheney> back in a bit
[07:02] <rogpeppe> davecheney: nice to see your post to golang-nuts
[07:03] <rogpeppe> davecheney: BTW i've got a couple of CLs out for review that i'd be interested in your comments on
[07:03] <davecheney> rogpeppe: sure, i'll have a look after dinner
[07:07] <rogpeppe> https://codereview.appspot.com/6878052/ and https://codereview.appspot.com/7299066/
[11:26] <TheMue> lunchtime
[11:47] <fwereade_> jam, ping
[11:47] <fwereade_> jam2, ping
[11:47] <jam2> fwereade_: pong
[11:48] <fwereade_> jam, so, I was wondering whether you guys had had an opportunity to look over the get/set/upgrade-charm treatment I sent a few days ago
[11:48] <jam> fwereade_: we haven't looked deeply at it, it isn't in our immediate work
[11:49] <fwereade_> jam, ok, cool -- my understanding was that someone would be starting on that front pretty soon, I guess that was inaccurate
[11:49] <jam> fwereade_: it was on the list of "things we could look at next", but there are enough things we're going to be picking on some of the smaller ones first
[11:49] <jam> ease ourselves into it.
[11:51] <fwereade_> jam, ok -- tbh most of the stuff on there is kinda necessary for parity, so it deserves at least a bit of attention sooner than later
[11:52] <fwereade_> jam, and there are definitely some easy bits there that can help you to get started
[11:52] <fwereade_> jam, so perhaps some of us could have a chat about it after the team meeting tomorrow? I might be able to make the simple starting points a little clearer
[11:53] <fwereade_> jam, this is not to say that I don't appreciate the sanity of your strategy :)
[11:58]  * fwereade_ => lunch
[12:07] <niemeyer> Goood morning
[12:08] <dimitern> niemeyer: hiya
[12:09] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: yo!
[12:35] <jam> mgz: poke for great mumbling?
[12:36] <mgz> hey :D
[12:37] <jam> mramm2: are we doing 8UTC tomorrow, or is that not starting until next week?
[12:37] <mramm2> tomorrow
[14:17] <rogpeppe> fwereade_: concurrent rpc requests: https://codereview.appspot.com/7307090
[14:35] <fwereade_> rogpeppe, cheers
[14:36] <rogpeppe> fwereade_: i'm hoping i might have a review of those other api-related branches at some point :-)
[14:36] <rogpeppe> fwereade_: i have a first watcher implementation mostly done BTW
[15:01] <rogpeppe> fwereade_: g+?
[15:01] <fwereade_> rogpeppe, omw
[15:34]  * rogpeppe goes for some lunch.
[17:16] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: ping
[17:16] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: pong
[17:16] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: Heya
[17:16] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: hiya, how's tricks?
[17:16] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: I've added some further hardening on the multi upload branch
[17:16] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: cool
[17:16] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: There was one bug related to retries that was breaking tests
[17:17] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: Do you want to have a look at the delta before submitting: https://codereview.appspot.com/7237068
[17:17] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: ok, will do
[17:17] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: There shouldn't be anything  controversial there
[17:17] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: Except for some occasional long-time S3 errors, I'm able to run tests quite well now
[17:19] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: i'm looking at it, BTW
[17:20] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: Thanks!
[17:25] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: where was the bug? in S3.prepare, i presume, but i can't see quite what the problem was, or how the changes have fixed it (the new code looks fine BTW, i'm just interested)
[17:25] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: Retrying would corrupt req.path due to how prepare was implemented
[17:27] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: ah, yes, req.path would keep on growing
[17:27] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: THat's right
[17:27] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: Live tests picked it up
[17:27] <rogpeppe> niemeyer: LGTM then
[17:28] <niemeyer> rogpeppe: Awesome, cheers
[18:39] <rogpeppe> that's me for the day
[18:39] <rogpeppe> g'night all
[20:28] <thumper> mramm: is there a calendar that I should be looking at?
[20:28] <thumper> mramm: got an email with an agenda for today
[20:28] <thumper> mramm: but no time specified for the meeting
[20:29] <thumper> mramm: hmm.. also guessing that the date is US local?
[20:29] <thumper> so tomorrow, not today?
[20:33] <mramm> yea
[20:33] <mramm> yea
[20:33] <mramm> I will get you on the calendar invite right away
[20:35] <mramm> you are now on the invite, I'm also adding you to the juju-core calendar which we use for vacations and whatnot
[20:50] <thumper> mramm: ta
[22:15] <hazmat> thumper, welcomes
[22:15] <thumper> hi hazmat
[22:16] <thumper> hazmat: should be interesting :)
[23:09]  * thumper goes in search of more coffee


[19:21] <boospy> hello hello
[19:24] <boospy> does anybody work with edubuntu 14.04 right?
[19:25] <boospy> we've spend many houres to solve some problem like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1330671
[19:26] <boospy> yes this is it
[19:27] <boospy> we've patched the kernel, and this bug was solved, but then it is a problem to the filesystem
[19:29] <boospy> so after restart from the nbdserver one client can boot, another error is that when you login in to ltspclient, the first login every time fails (same message when password is wrong). The second attempt succeeds always.
[19:30] <boospy> when can we expect that this fat bug is solved? Or it is a better way on new install to stay on 12.04?


[07:45] <mup> PR pc-gadget#92 opened: Use passthrough for assumes until LP#2019931 is fixed <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-gadget/pull/92>
[08:18] <mup> PR snapd#12824 opened: o/aspectstate: get/set aspects in state databags <Pulse> <aspects> <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12824>
[09:13] <mup> PR snapd#12825 opened: gadget: restrict usage of offset-write <Run nested> <Needs Documentation :book:> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12825>
[09:30] <mup> PR pc-gadget#92 closed: Use passthrough for assumes until LP#2019931 is fixed <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-gadget/pull/92>
[09:49] <mup> PR snapd#12826 opened: daemon: block snapd refresh/revert from occuring while other snap changes happen and vice-versa <Pulse> <need-architecture-review> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12826>
[09:54] <mup> PR snapd#12827 opened: tests: fix some shellcheck warnings <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12827>
[11:19] <mup> PR snapd#12736 closed: aspects,o/aspectstate: create an aspects API (WIP) <need-architecture-review> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <aspects> <Created by MiguelPires> <Closed by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12736>
[11:19] <mup> PR snapd#12828 opened: daemon: add aspects endpoint to REST API <⛔ Blocked> <Pulse> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <aspects> <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12828>
[12:55] <mup> PR snapd#12712 closed: interfaces/builtin: userspace and fs-specific mount options <Squash-merge> <Created by olivercalder> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12712>
[15:20] <mup> PR snapcraft#4147 opened: deps: correct pyinstaller version in freeze-requirements.sh <Created by lengau> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4147>
[15:45] <mup> PR snapd#12829 opened: tests: test that kernel hooks work on classic <Run nested> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12829>
[16:00] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4148 opened: kde-neon extension support for Qt6 <Enhancement> <Created by tsteven4> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4148>
[16:36] <mup> PR pc-gadget#93 opened: Fix build for UC20 pc gadget <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-gadget/pull/93>
[16:45] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4149 opened: Extra libraries linter <Enhancement> <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4149>
[16:45] <mup> PR snapcraft#3413 closed: elf: add a class to check for dependency problems in a group of files <Created by jhenstridge> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3413>
[16:50] <mup> PR snapcraft#3575 closed: NodeJS V1 Plugin: check source-subdir for package.json if specified <Created by debdutdeb> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3575>
[16:50] <mup> PR snapcraft#3578 closed: Fix: files starting with '.' are not organized and also not caught by filesets <Created by debdutdeb> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3578>
[16:55] <mup> PR snapcraft#3676 closed: ROS plugins v2: Exclude packages in stage snap from fetched packages during staging  <Created by artivis> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3676>
[16:55] <mup> PR snapcraft#3918 closed: commands: add init option for git initialization <Created by atomcult> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3918>
[16:55] <mup> PR snapcraft#3980 closed: plugins: Increase kernel plugin build environments compatibility <Created by jocado> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3980>
[17:20] <mup> PR snapcraft#4150 opened: meta: use build-for in snap.yaml architecture <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4150>
[17:56] <mup> PR snapd#12820 closed: tests: skip snap-quota-services in external devices <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12820>
[22:40] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4151 opened: qt5 webengine no longer works <Bug> <Created by tsteven4> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4151>


[00:03] <jcastro> heh
[00:03] <jcastro> "linksys" for the win
[01:07] <duanedesign> jcastro: good to hear you made it to Florida ok and are getting settled in
[01:07] <duanedesign> jcastro: what a snock from Detrout :)
[01:08] <duanedesign> shock*
[01:08] <duanedesign> ugh, can't spell Detroit either :P
[06:59] <dholbach> good morning
[08:17] <dpm> good morning all
[08:27] <duanedesign> morning dpm
[08:27] <duanedesign> morning dholbach
[08:30] <dholbach> hi dpm, mhall119, duanedesign
[08:34] <kim0> Morning all
[08:37] <head_victim> Gday all, anyone else noticing loco.u.c being unresponsive?
[08:40] <dholbach> head_victim, yes
[08:40] <dholbach> might be worth mentioning it in #canonical-sysadmin
[08:41] <head_victim> dholbach: done
[08:42] <dholbach> super
[08:46] <head_victim> Making sure it wasn't a known downtime thing
[09:42] <dpm> hey duanedesign, dholbach, all
[09:42] <dholbach> head_victim, better?
[09:43] <head_victim> dholbach: nope
[09:43] <dholbach> you're right
[10:29] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:29] <head_victim> Working better now dholbach, a little slow but accessible.
[10:50] <paultag> Hahahahahahahaha, found this on pastebin -- http://pastebin.com/ALiL1ksn
[10:55] <head_victim> paultag: I'm not sure what's worse, someone writing that or you just randomly searching pastebin ;)
[11:01] <paultag> head_victim: :)
[11:02] <head_victim> Gday mate :)
[11:02] <paultag> head_victim: g'day!
[11:02] <paultag> head_victim: how are you?
[11:02] <head_victim> Not too bad, trying to decide between http://is.gd/smTfOm or http://is.gd/U2cV4w to try and reduce my wrist pain while at the PC (they're links to a vertical mouse and a trackball mouse)
[11:04] <paultag> head_victim: pretty nifty :) -- go for the trackball, I love those
[11:05] <head_victim> Yeah, the vertical mouse doesn't seem to be in much use anywhere so having problems getting "real" reviews from people I konw
[11:07] <paultag> BRB, heading to work
[11:07] <paultag> head_victim: we'll talk soon :)
[11:07] <head_victim> No worries, have fun
[11:18] <AlanBell> head_victim: someone in #ubuntu-accessibility was testing the vertical mouse
[11:18] <AlanBell> charlie-tca I think
[11:19] <head_victim> AlanBell: thanks for the heads up I might hassle him a bit
[11:39] <duanedesign> head_victim: I used to have a LOGITECH M570 TRACKBALL and really liked it
[11:42] <duanedesign> head_victim: i liked it better then the Kensington I had.  I liked using the thumb w/ the trackball.
[12:07] <head_victim> duanedesign: nice to know :) Did it solve any pain you were having or was it a preference/pre emptive strike?
[12:34] <duanedesign> head_victim:you can definetly use it without moving your wrist. But for me it was a preference/pre emptive strike :)
[12:35] <head_victim> duanedesign: cool, I think that trackball is my "safe" option, I'll hit up charlie for an opinion on the vertical mouse and then take the plunge.
[13:04] <popey> wheeee bugspam
[13:06] <head_victim> czajkowski: ping
[13:15] <jcastro> kim0: heya, welcome back!
[13:15] <kim0> jcastro: Hey man .. thanks
[13:15] <kim0> jcastro: how was your move
[13:15] <jcastro> comcast guy is finishing up
[13:16] <jcastro> so I am on someone's "linksys" network
[13:16] <jcastro> I should be 100% in about 30 minutes
[13:16] <kim0> nice :)
[13:16] <czajkowski> head_victim: yes
[13:16] <jcastro> kim0: they were slow on merges last week so there wasn't a report, I figure we could do both of them today again?
[13:16] <head_victim> About the reapproval bug, I'm not overly certain where to go from here
[13:16] <kim0> jcastro: Yeah I guess
[13:17] <czajkowski> head_victim: can you comment on the bug, ie status of the re approval application
[13:17] <kim0> just finished busting my Inbox
[13:17] <czajkowski> either add the full application
[13:17] <kim0> unbelievable
[13:17] <czajkowski> or when you will have it ready by as I know the timezone isn't good for ye guys to attend
[13:17] <jcastro> kim0: ok, maybe the last hour before you EOD? Then we could get most of them done
[13:17] <jcastro> and publish tomorrowish?
[13:17] <head_victim> Ah ok, by posting the bug we were saying we're ready.
[13:18] <jcastro> kim0: I went over the slides with bacon, he's generally happy with progress, gave me a bunch of stuff to change, heh
[13:18] <jcastro> so the slides are looking good!
[13:18] <kim0> jcastro: sounds good for the report
[13:18] <czajkowski> head_victim: post on the bug saying you're ready and the link to the application please
[13:18] <kim0> jcastro: glad about the slides as well :)
[13:19] <head_victim> Sorry for not making that clear, will do now.
[13:19] <czajkowski> just as long as we keep all the communication on the bug
[13:19] <czajkowski> makes it easier as there are 6 of us and only 3 of us in here
[13:19] <czajkowski> so everyone knows whats what
[13:19] <czajkowski> thanks
[13:19] <jcastro> kim0: yeah so basically I've been as out of the loop the last few days as you so I have to catch up
[13:19] <head_victim> No problems, I'll give some detail ont he steps taken for our team to get to the approval wiki page
[13:20] <kim0> jcastro: cool .. I'll grab some lunch, finish some catchup and ping you for the report
[13:20] <jcastro> \o/
[13:29] <head_victim> czajkowski: cheers, updated.
[13:40] <head_victim> paultag: back to work!
[13:58] <dholbach> dpm, how are the cloud days going?
[13:59] <dpm> dholbach, you mean kim0 perhaps?
[14:00] <dholbach> err
[14:00] <dholbach> yes
[14:00]  * dholbach gets another espresso :)
[14:19] <jcastro> kim0: I'll stick them on etherpad, /unity-report and /ensemble-report work for you?
[14:27] <jcastro> ah, it seems that's where they are anyway
[14:28] <kim0> jcastro: heh yeah
[14:29] <czajkowski> jcastro: is jono around this week ?
[14:34] <jcastro> afaik yeah
[14:34] <jcastro> he usually doesn't come on for another 30 minutes or so
[14:43] <czajkowski> k thanks
[15:26] <nigelb> paultag: ping
[15:26] <paultag> nigelb: pong
[16:18] <jcastro> is jono supposed to be around today?
[16:18] <jcastro> or is he off?
[16:19] <nigelb> jcastro: shouldn't we be asking you that? :)
[16:19] <kim0> jcastro: I think he's at oscon ?
[16:19] <jcastro> oh right, OSCON
[16:34] <dholbach> my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[17:01] <jcastro> kim0: ok heading out to lunch
[17:01]  * kim0 nods
[20:11] <jcastro> jono!!! \o/
[20:11] <jono> howdy jcastro :-)
[20:35] <jcastro> jono: what do you think of clint's latest slide? http://spamaps.org/files/hadoop-rage.png


[01:18] <micahg> ochosi: re: 4.11 settings, if we're not taking 4.12 for the LTS, I'd rather not, if we are, I don't mind as much
[01:18] <micahg> that's why a clear roadmap would help
[01:19] <micahg> ochosi: but as mr_pouit is much more connected to upstream, I'll leave him to the decision and I'll be happy to push it if he agrees
[04:32] <pleia2> Unit193: in case you didn't see, I gave you superpowers on the calendar too so you can update it
[04:32] <pleia2> (both knome and I are traveling this weekend)
[04:32] <Unit193> I got the hint, figured it'd be the same time too.  I'll be out as well.
[04:32] <pleia2> :)
[04:33] <Unit193> Danke.
[06:43] <ochosi> why is jono the only one for whom xmir and xubuntu work flawlessly
[06:44] <Unit193> I have no idea, was thinking that, and wondering if he's looking as critically.
[06:44] <elfy> I'm not cynical
[06:44] <Unit193> Or, all his bugs were ironed out early, and he's using one of the few 100% working computers. :P
[06:45] <Noskcaj> Unit193, i read the irc logs and realised why you sent me the magnet link. I'll test in Vbox a bit, but i don't have time to get real hardware going till next week.
[06:45] <Unit193> Then it's pointless to test.
[06:46] <ochosi> maybe he has never used xubuntu before and thinks it's supposed to be as bad as it is with xmir?
[06:47] <elfy> ochosi: lol
[06:49] <Unit193> Made me laugh, that's bad...
[06:50] <Unit193> Also I was right to say it was GridCube. :P
[06:51] <Noskcaj> Unit193, I still think some bugs will show up in a VM. maybe even some VM only ones
[06:52] <Unit193> Noskcaj: For xorg, but we're trying to test XMir with this setup, otherwise it's almost a daily.  You're free to try, but it just won't be Mir.
[06:52] <Noskcaj> Unit193, even if i use the iso from you it will be normal Xorg?
[06:53]  * Noskcaj assumes he looks stupid for some reason now
[06:53] <Unit193> Yes, as explained in the email and online. :P
[06:53] <Unit193> (The xorg, your appearance isn't explained online that I've seen.)
[06:54] <Noskcaj> On another topic. what's the status on getting settings 4.11 into 13.10? I've just fixed thunar 1.6.3 so it can be debian synced too, so hopefully that can go in.
[07:29] <cub> Good morning Unit193, I got the same problem with new 64bit xmir iso. I just won't boot. Weird since I've used the same procedure and equipment as I do for all other installations...
[17:54] <Unit193> I'd take it people interested saw<EMAIL_ADDRESS>already?  Couple interesting links within.
[17:59] <ochosi> Unit193: wow, seems there are quite some roadblocks ahead...
[18:01] <Unit193><EMAIL_ADDRESS>and exactly what I had thought a while ago. :P
[18:04] <ochosi> hehe, yeah
[18:06] <elfy> they've got until the 21st - I'll check then
[18:37] <skellat> Unit193: Multi-monitor was the ultimate blocker for mr_pouit so let us hope for some miracles in the 13 days ahead
[18:38] <Unit193> But, that's not the only blocker on my list, so just that wouldn't do it.
[18:39] <skellat> Oh, I know.
[18:39] <skellat> Those are still some major hurdles to be cleared.
[18:52] <ochosi> yup, also the lack of proprietary driver support is bugging me
[18:53] <Unit193> ochosi: The lack of working properly bugs me...
[22:39] <Unit193> Ouch, we're pulling in more of systemd than we did even in raring.
[22:39] <Unit193> libpam-systemd, libsystemd-daemon0, libsystemd-journal0, libsystemd-login0, systemd-services, and systemd-shim.
[22:43] <lderan> i see
[23:54] <skellat> Unit193: Why are we pulling in that much of systemd?  What dependencies are triggering it?
[23:54] <Unit193> I don't know, haven't been able to look yet.
[23:55] <GridCube> Unit193, im zsyncking the iso, its diferent from the 0.8.8 mir we tested the other day. correct?
[23:56] <Unit193> GridCube: A little, couple things fixed.  This isn't the main one in repos yet, that didn't have many interesting fixes.  Biggest ones you'll notice are TTYs work.
[23:57] <GridCube> oh
[23:57] <GridCube> well


[04:28] <LLStarks> stupid question, why is preferences under edit rather than tools on linux?
[11:59] <DeeVee> LLStarks, i suppose it is because it makes more sense to have it there.. and it is like that in all other applications on linux...
[13:42] <magcius> LLStarks, that's what the gnome HIG recommends.
[13:42] <magcius> LLStarks, "Tools->Options" is Windows HIG, "Edit->Preferences..." is what gnome HIG says.
[13:43] <magcius> LLStarks, see: http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-standard.html.en
[16:00] <fta> jdstrand, hmm, bug 716703
[16:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 716703 in chromium-browser "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in __static_initialization_and_destruction_0()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/716703
[17:01] <BUGabundo> ohay
[19:47] <fta> jdstrand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/566427/  not sure we really want it.. maybe for lucid/arm
[21:07] <jcastro> fta: we have a surverymonkey account that we can use if you want to have surveys, it lets you have long surveys, gets dumps of the data for you, etc.
[21:07] <fta> jcastro, never heard of it
[21:08] <jcastro> yeah I am just saying we have it if you want to take advantage of it
[21:08] <jcastro> it's like what we use for the server survey, etc.
[21:08] <jcastro> next time you wanna do one just tell dpm you want to use it and I'm sure he'll hook it up for you
[21:08] <fta> jcastro, in fact, with upstream, we wondered if the dev-tools should be translated or not, i said i will ask the community via a quick poll
[21:08] <jcastro> I mean, we're paying the 7 bucks a month or whatever for nice surveys, might as well let ubuntu developers use it.
[21:09] <fta> but i asked a few more questions
[21:11] <fta> jcastro, obviously, it's not ideal, because can say "i'm not happy" but without providing details
[21:12] <jcastro> yeah
[21:12] <jcastro> when I do them I try to force people to leave comments via the selection thing, but that also makes it hard when you get like 200 people submitting comments and they're all complicated