[08:52] <lullabud> martyyyr:  on my system, only the NTFS is set to be bootable.
[08:52] <Rob125> nekr0z: can't say that I've had the problem - again, though, I just use classical greek.
[08:52] <martyyyr> lullabud: it was like this (2 boot flags) when I had gentoo running, and it worked
[08:52] <javaJake> I need a variable (LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH) to be set for all apps. "export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/dir" doesn't cut it, because it only works for the current terminal.
[08:52] <javaJake> Any ideas?
[08:52] <martyyyr> lullabud: look at the 4th partition tho,  the type says Primary... is that right?
[08:52] <lullabud> martyyyr:  really?  you were using grub with it?
[08:52] <nekr0z> Rob125: Thank you for trying to help anyway.
[08:52] <martyyyr> lullabud: yeah, grub
[08:53] <Rob125> nekr0z: sorry I couldn't be of any. Best of luck finding a fix.
[08:53] <lullabud> martyyyr:  yeah, i think that's ok.
[08:53] <timo90> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
[08:53] <timo90> WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0011
[08:53] <mnepton> manah manah
[08:54] <master0onxbox> doo doo di doo doo
[08:54] <martyyyr> lullabud: k..  btw, if there is no bootloader, what would normally happen?
[08:54] <javaJake> ...?
[08:54] <lullabud> martyyyr:  that should be fine since it's the extended, not a data partition in itself.
[08:54] <zntneo> I can't remember who i was talking to before but are you still here?
[08:54] <CharlieSu> Is there a good command line tool that tells you how much traffic is inbound and outbound at any given time..?  for example 20K up and 555K down..
[08:54] <lullabud> martyyyr:  what do you mean?
[08:54] <javaJake> lol, master0onxbox and mnepton, what are you guys doing?
[08:54] <iter> CharlieSu: ntop or bmon
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> martyyyr, you wouldnt be able to boot.
[08:54] <javaJake> I need a variable (LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH) to be set for all apps. "export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/dir" doesn't cut it, because it only works for the current terminal.
[08:54] <eugman> How do I get it to recognize my memory stick pro.
[08:54] <javaJake> I have 5 minutes remaining...
[08:54] <martyyyr> lullabud: say there are 2 operating systems, but ..... nvm, nolimitsoya answered the question :)
[08:55] <master0onxbox> ?=) wait for some help ?=)
[08:55] <javaJake> AH
[08:55] <javaJake> I see
[08:55] <javaJake> Nice
[08:55] <javaJake> I'll wait too
[08:55] <javaJake> :D
[08:55] <liri> how do i upgrade the ipw3945 module in dapper?
[08:55] <javaJake> hum dee dum dum
[08:55] <javaJake> dee dum
[08:55] <CharlieSu> iter: Thanks
[08:56] <iter> sho
[08:56] <Rob125> man. i'm going to run out of batteries.. bbiaw, moving to desktop from laptop
[08:56] <javaJake> doo... doo... dum...
[08:56] <Tyseah> RE ! :D
[08:56] <master0onxbox> javaJake>> Lol
[08:56] <javaJake> ladeedaeedadeedo
[08:56] <lullabud> martyyyr:  hah, i had read the question wrong anyways.
[08:56] <javaJake> Oh, heh, you like that? :P
[08:56] <fryfrog> Does anyone know if there are any xbox iso tools in ubuntu repository?  I've searched for the few I know, but couldn't find any.  Searching for "xbox" isn't much help, and google isn't turning up much either :(
[08:56] <martyyyr> lullabud:  :)   anyway, any suggestions left?
[08:56] <javaJake> I need a variable (LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH) to be set for all apps. "export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/dir" doesn't cut it, because it only works for the current terminal.
[08:57] <javaJake> If no one helps, I'll keep whistling. :D
[08:57] <ikus1> HELP im kinda new to Linux, I bet this is a noob question but can you tell me how I can mae a root entrance at the command prompt?
[08:57] <javaJake> so-dee-day...
[08:57] <lullabud> martyyyr:  you could install grub onto a floppy disk and boot that way.
[08:57] <iter> ikus1: sudo -s
[08:57] <javaJake> ikus1, run sudo "command"
[08:57] <fryfrog> ikus1: use "sudo" before any commands you want to do
[08:57] <lullabud> javaJake:  that's really irritating.  nobody else is being a jerk in here to get attention to a question that nobody knows how to answer.
[08:57] <javaJake> lullabud, Sorry, I'l stop.
[08:57] <martyyyr> lullabud:  I don't think I even have floppy disks anymore :)
[08:58] <ikus1> thanks iter/javajake/fryfrog
[08:58] <javaJake> ikus1, A nice cheat to get into a completely root terminal is to run "sudo su".
[08:58] <martyyyr> lullabud: lol
[08:58] <ron_> what can I do if my lshw outputs *-network:0 DISABLED ?
[08:58] <javaJake> lullabud, LOL
[08:58] <timo90> ./scan | sort > ~/.tzap/channels.conf dont work ?
[08:58] <ron_> How do I enable it?
[08:58] <martyyyr> lullabud: I think I'm gonna try reinstalling ubuntu, and look at the partition thing during the install... I'm out of ideas
[08:58] <lullabud> martyyyr:  can you boot off a usb key?
[08:58] <zntneo> I'm so close!!!
[08:59] <javaJake> GTG...
[08:59] <eugman> How do I get ubuntu to recognize my memory stick pro.
[08:59] <martyyyr> lullabud: I'm not sure, but I can find out
[08:59] <lullabud> martyyyr:  i've had better luck doing the default partition, letting the ubuntu installer do its thing.
[08:59] <martyyyr> lullabud: if I would have done that, my windows partition would have been lost
[09:00] <ron_> My Wireless connection comes up in System -> Administraton -> Networking as Wired Connection wlan0
[09:00] <pip> which program can make many .rar files to 1 .img files like winrar does in windows?
[09:00] <lullabud> martyyyr:  well, it lets you resize partitions to make empty space.
[09:00] <fryfrog> pip: that'd be "unrar" :/
[09:00] <lullabud> martyyyr:  that's true though, with that complex scheme it might do something funky.
[09:00] <UmbraAdmin> if i move my hd with Ubuntu on it to a new comp and get -> Kernel panic - not syncing:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) What todo ?
[09:01] <pip> fryfrog:  i can already do it in ubuntu?
[09:01] <fryfrog> pip: and its compression, and if the .rar files don't *contain* a .img file (say, it has a .bin/.cue file or .iso file) you'll end up withs omething else at the end :/
[09:01] <lullabud> UmbraAdmin:  that's likely caused by having your hard disk physically attached to the computer in a different configuration.
[09:01] <Discerer> the HD is not set up to handle ubuntu UmbraAdmin
[09:01] <UmbraAdmin> hmm
[09:01] <fryfrog> pip: i dunno, does the command "unrar" at a prompt say anything?  I think I noticed automatix2 installing unrar for me
[09:01] <ikus1> thanks I made a account ;) any tips on how to delete the account again?
[09:01] <UmbraAdmin> but it works in the old comp ?
[09:01] <Atoms> hi, i have two soundcards, one is onboard other is audigy, in ubuntu default soundcard is that onboard, how can i change order of soundcards ?
[09:01] <lullabud> UmbraAdmin:  do you have it connected in the same config, as in primary->master ?
[09:02] <UmbraAdmin> yeas lullabud
[09:02] <martyyyr> lullabud, I'm reinstalling ubuntu and got rid of a few partitions (only primary partitions left now)... I hope it works
[09:02] <UmbraAdmin> Atoms disable the onboard in bios
[09:02] <lullabud> UmbraAdmin:  i'm pretty sure that error is from your initrd being unable to mount your root partition.
[09:02] <hou5ton> I may have to use a dialup connection at the hospital and I can't figure out how to dial it in Edgy? Any help?
[09:02] <UmbraAdmin> hm ok
[09:02] <Atoms> UmbraAdmin i don't want to, because i using it for skype
[09:03] <UmbraAdmin> ahh
[09:03] <ron_> Would that cause a problem?
[09:03] <eugman> Does anyone at all know hwo I can get my memory card reader to work on my laptop?
[09:03] <bluefox83> how do i switch to beryl once it's installed? log out of gnome?
[09:03] <fryfrog> pip: automatix2 is an ubuntu script to install a bunch of neat stuff that isn't included in Ubuntu.  Search google for "automatix" and you'll find it
[09:04] <The_Mu> Grah.
[09:04] <pip> i thought most things could be found with apt? and ive enables universal
[09:04] <firebird619> I am trying to install Compiz, but when it gets to compiz-plugins it says Depends: csm (>=0.5) but it is not installable. What can I do to resolve this issue?
[09:04] <pip> is there any other thing i can do to find mroe things with apr-cache?
[09:05] <ron_> Should my wireless card turn up as a Wierd connection?
[09:05] <ron_> Should my wireless card turn up as a Wired connection?
[09:05] <zntneo> does anyone in here know what this means ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[09:05] <eugman> bluefox83, I added /usr/bin/beryl to my start up but running starting beryl or I think beryl manager from a gnome-terminal should work.
[09:05] <lullabud> pip:  did you do `apt-get update` after enabling all the extra repositories?
[09:05] <eugman> scratch out that starting word.
[09:05] <pip> hmm, think so since i cant get vlc without the universal with apt
[09:06] <bluefox83> ok...by login screen does not have an option for beryl..how do i fix that?
[09:06] <pip> but i get an error when i do apt-get update
[09:06] <bluefox83> i have installed beryl..
[09:06] <pip> seems i dont get it anymore, maybe was because i rebooted
[09:06] <CharlieSu> Any encryption buffs in here?
[09:06] <bluefox83> !beryl
[09:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:07] <AsheD> is there a commandline command to show a file's properties?
[09:07] <ikus1> thanks for the help all, I bet I will be back later
[09:07] <eugman> bluefox, I looked it aparently beryl-manager, anyway you don't need to do that you can have it start up automatically and switch between it and gnome from the beryl-manager
[09:07] <WonderWal> how do i install packages from dapper? im using edgy. i need to install erlang R10 due to a bug.
[09:07] <lullabud> AsheD:  like `ls -la filename` or `stat filename` or `file filename` ?
[09:07] <SupremacyGnu> Hello! I just downloaded a .run package. But I can't run it. Ubuntu want's to open it with my gedit, which I guess is wrong? and sh filename.run doesn't seem to work either.
[09:08] <lullabud> SupremacyGnu:  `bash ./whatever.run`
[09:09] <AsheD> lullabud:: yeh something like that, I am looking for the exact dimensions of a video from a DVD, if that helps
[09:09] <Discerer> how do I terminate a program that's locked up?
[09:09] <WonderWal> :(
[09:09] <hamdinp> what is default ROOT password installed ubuntu 6.6.1
[09:09] <lullabud> AsheD:  `file` would be your best bet.
[09:09] <mnepton> SupremacyGnu: chmod +x filename.run
[09:09] <pip> fryfrog: automatix is like a better apt-get?
[09:09] <jackrazz> anyone know what's wrong with this script, i'm a newbie
[09:09] <jackrazz> #! /bin/sh
[09:09] <jackrazz> sudo -s -u postgres
[09:09] <jackrazz> pg_ctlcluster 8.1 main start
[09:09] <lullabud> hamdinp:  there is no root user in 6.06.1
[09:09] <lullabud> !sudo
[09:09] <adam_> what are some of the bennies for automatix?
[09:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:09] <mnepton> pip: please do not use Automatix
[09:09] <pip> why?
[09:10] <fryfrog> pip: no, automatix just uses apt to install some other stuff
[09:10] <WonderWal> im using edgy. how do i install a package from dapper?
[09:10] <mnepton> because if it fails in the *slightest* way it can render a machine unusable
[09:10] <fryfrog> mnepton: you suggest something else?
[09:10] <SupremacyGnu> hmm, I seem to have somekind of MD5 checksum error....
[09:10] <lullabud> SupremacyGnu:  perhaps the file didn't finish downloading?  try downloading it again.
[09:10] <WonderWal> :'(
[09:10] <pip> but i cant even find automatix when im apt-cache searching?
[09:10] <Atoms> ok, have another try -- i have two soundcards, one is onboard other is audigy, in ubuntu default soundcard is that onboard, how can i change order of soundcards ?
[09:10] <pip> ir there some thing wrong then?
[09:10] <pip> is*
[09:11] <fryfrog> pip: did you read what i said in channel?
[09:11] <SupremacyGnu> lullabud, gah, I waited 30 minutes for this...well, thanks anyways
[09:11] <pip> ive done an update?
[09:11] <lullabud> SupremacyGnu:  you may be able to resume the download.
[09:11] <Discerer> how do I terminate a program that's locked up?
[09:12] <ron_> I have a Prism contrller
[09:12] <ron_> Controller
[09:12] <ron_> houldn't that work?
[09:12] <SupremacyGnu> lullabud, It's already finished
[09:12] <lullabud> SupremacyGnu:  are you sure it's the whole file?
[09:13] <lullabud> Discerer:  you can use kill or killall
[09:13] <lullabud> Discerer:  if it's a gui app you can use xkill
[09:13] <hamdinp> what is default ROOT password installed ubuntu 6.6.1
[09:13] <hamdinp> but folder owner is root
[09:13] <SupremacyGnu> lullabud, yes, must be a bad filehost
[09:14] <lullabud> SupremacyGnu:  lame...
[09:14] <thevenin> hamdinp: do sudo passwd root
[09:14] <AsheD> my DVD drive has eaten itself
[09:14] <Discerer> thanks lullabud!
[09:14] <AsheD> I can't access it, can't unmount it :(
[09:14] <SupremacyGnu> lullabud, yep, I'm trying to download true combat elite, but their link is broken... and the other site is on french and I don't have "permission" to download from there...
[09:15] <SupremacyGnu> lullabud, so yes... kinda lame
[09:16] <timo90> Can any one asist me in installing  and configureing my pic DVB-T card, im using gxine
[09:16] <hamdinp> thevenin: hamdinp: do sudo passwd root
[09:16] <hamdinp> tthanks
[09:16] <hamdinp> its work
[09:16] <CHICOL> sudo /connect irc.hispano.org
[09:17] <pip> mnepton: why shouldent i get automatix?
[09:17] <thevenin> np
[09:17] <LjL> pip: because it's known to break systems.
[09:17] <pip> so i shouldent get it?
[09:17] <LjL> !automatix
[09:17] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[09:18] <pip> ok i wont use it then, but fryfrog told me to get it
[09:18] <thevenin> nessus does the same
[09:18] <pip> and all i want is to unrar some files to get an .img file and watch a movie :(
[09:18] <thevenin> broke one my my boxs had to reinstall made me very mad
[09:19] <LjL> pip: enable multiverse and install unrar
[09:19] <pip> multiverse?
[09:19] <pip> ive only enables universe i think
[09:19] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell pip about multiverse
[09:19] <thevenin> ubuntuguide.org
[09:19] <LjL> !unrar
[09:19] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:19] <cfedde> My network admin group insists on locking switch port speeds.  How do I tell ubuntu to set 100BaseTX-FD at boot?
[09:20] <pip> sry gnome got an critical error?
[09:20] <pip> what homepage did you write where i could read about filecompression?
[09:20] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell pip about unrar
[09:21] <thevenin> www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:21] <LjL> what about ubuntuguide?
[09:21] <pip> and i cant read dvds either, and ive unlocked that think too i think
[09:21] <LjL> !dvd
[09:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:21] <thevenin> it would tell him how to add mutliverse
[09:22] <LjL> thevenin: so would the documentation i just pointed him to
[09:22] <master0onxbox> terminal help with rtorrent somebody?
[09:22] <LjL> which is the documentation from ubuntu.com
[09:22] <pip> and how did i enable multiverse?
[09:22] <pip> sry but my xchat crashed!
[09:22] <thevenin> oh well
[09:22] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell pip about multiverse
[09:22] <thevenin> 2 answers is better then no answers
[09:23] <pip> LjL:  imba m8 :)
[09:23] <rambo3> cfedde, did you try nictools-pci
[09:24] <cfedde> rambo3: thanks. I'll look there.
[09:24] <assarix> hi
[09:24] <alanhaggai> Hi friend :)
[09:24] <assarix> is there a php5 package with mysql support in the repository?
[09:24] <assarix> I can't find one
[09:24] <thevenin> man this channel has enough bans eh
[09:24] <anderbubble_> assarix, you install php5, then php5-mysql
[09:24] <rambo3> cfedde, its bunde of alot of utils . you need to find one for your card
[09:24] <assarix> yes
[09:24] <erUSUL> !find php-mysql
[09:25] <ubotu> Package/file php-mysql does not exist in edgy
[09:25] <assarix> but phpinfo() doesn't show mysql
[09:25] <LjL> !info php5-mysql
[09:25] <ubotu> php5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 108 kB
[09:25] <LjL> or perhaps you could use PEAR
[09:25] <assarix> and php.ini does have mysql.so in it
[09:26] <cfedde> rambo3: idealy I was looking for some boot time script to call mii-tool.
[09:26] <thomas_> do you guys think that getting a dual core processor, is worth the exra price? will i see a real benifit under linux?
[09:26] <JohnM555> Does anyone here use Eclipse? I have Eclipse installed, but when I run it(from Applications>Programming>Eclipse) I get "An error has occurred. See the log file /home/john/workspace/.metadata/.log." However, the .metadata folder isn't even created, so I can't even look at the log file.
[09:26] <rambo3> cfedde, make it your self?
[09:26] <cfedde> rambo3: maybe.
[09:27] <JohnM555> Would I need to run Eclipse with sudo...? And if so, how?
[09:27] <cfedde> rambo3: one of the things I
[09:27] <cfedde> 've learned to like about ubuntu is that most of what I'm looking for is already there.
[09:27] <LjL> !pm | pip
[09:27] <ubotu> pip: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[09:27] <LjL> pip: no, it's a bot factoid
[09:27] <LjL> !dvd
[09:27] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:28] <LjL> look just above pip
[09:28] <JohnM555> How do I run a program(Ecliose) from the terminal?
[09:28] <JohnM555> Eclipse*
[09:28] <pip> so i cant apt-get install !dvd?
[09:28] <LjL> JohnM555: if i have to take a wild guess... type "eclipse"
[09:28] <LjL> pip: *no*
[09:29] <LjL> read the guide on that link instead
[09:29] <JohnM555> Ljl: Probably shoulda tried that :P
[09:29] <pip> thanks
[09:29] <thevenin> LjL: may i ask how do you keep you sanity?
[09:29] <martyyyr> argh.... I just spent hours on trying to get my bootloader to work, while it was just my HD that didn't power on!
[09:30] <cpl-tnt44> Hi all , i try to make a user with ubuntu : sudo useradd lisa for exsample ... where is the home folder for lisa's user ?
[09:30] <LjL> thevenin: one part of my brain is devoted to simulating a parallel universe where i kill all their computers and then them
[09:30] <thevenin> lmao
[09:30] <zntneo> how do i get network-manager to work?
[09:30] <cpl-tnt44> LjL a little helpo plz ?
[09:30] <JohnM555> Eh, that still doesn't fix my problem. When I run Eclipse I get the error  "An error has occurred. See the log file /home/john/workspace/.metadata/.log.", but that file is never created
[09:30] <zntneo> I already have it installed
[09:30] <zntneo> with apt
[09:30] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: /home/lisa
[09:30] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: but no
[09:31] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: the command you need is "adduser" not "useradd"
[09:31] <cpl-tnt44> LjL , i know but it didnt create one...
[09:31] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[09:31] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: delete the user and try again with adduser
[09:31] <LjL> user "deluser" to delete
[09:31] <LjL> s/user/use/
[09:31] <cpl-tnt44> in linux's books  its useradd strange
[09:31] <jamey> I have done a minimal install on an old box but it now hangs on "Configuring networking..." Any ideas?
[09:31] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: then those books will also explain that useradd doesn't create a home directory by default. anyway, on Ubuntu, use adduser
[09:32] <cpl-tnt44> LjL : either way its working but not creating a folder for the user thats strange ?
[09:32] <LjL> no it's not, it's not supposed to
[09:32] <cpl-tnt44> heheh Thanks !
[09:32] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: if you read the manpage ("man useradd"), it'll tell you there is an option that you have to explicitly invoke, to create a home directory
[09:32] <LjL> but anyway, don't, and just use adduser instead
[09:33] <cpl-tnt44> ok !
[09:33] <cpl-tnt44> thanks
[09:33] <cpl-tnt44> btw LjL what is Room number ? in the values ?
[09:33] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: unimportant to the system
[09:33] <LjL> your choice, you can leave them blank as well
[09:34] <cpl-tnt44> and for administrator ?
[09:34] <LjL> cpl-tnt44: hm?
[09:34] <cpl-tnt44> nm
[09:34] <cpl-tnt44> i just relized its a bounch of info on the user.... if u'd like to enter
[09:34] <LjL> exactly
[09:35] <motin_> hellooo!! i am upgrading to edgy! one question only - I am downloading the 1.5 gig packages needed right now, but I really would like to restart my computer - how can I make the downloaded packages stay on the computer after I press cancel?
[09:35] <LjL> motin_: they will.
[09:36] <jamey> motin_, why do you need to restart?
[09:36] <LjL> also, be sure you read
[09:36] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell motin_ about upgrade
[09:36] <motin_> jamey: need to use a windows app for school
[09:36] <jamey> ah right
[09:37] <LjL> motin_, just cancel the download (as long as it's still just downloading, *never* interrupt if it's installing)
[09:37] <sidewalk`> how do i get sshd running in ubuntu?
[09:37] <LjL> sidewalk`: install openssh-server
[09:37] <sidewalk`> ahh, it isnt installed per default?
[09:37] <LjL> no
[09:37] <motin_> LjL: that's great and probably what I though, but also, the upgrader claims to "restore" my system if I press cancel, so I wasnt sure
[09:37] <hamdinp> Hey ! Is Ubotu bot?
[09:37] <Rob125> ,ptom
[09:37] <jamey> I have done a minimal install on an old box but it now hangs on "Configuring networking..." During the setup stage when it is configuring the base system, ethernet worked and could ping domains. How can I get it to work again?
[09:37] <Rob125> motin: if it's only downloading, you should be able to safely run things using wine
[09:37] <LjL> motin_: uhm, perhaps there's some black magic that the updater does. but i am close to 100% sure that the downloaded packages will stay cached
[09:38] <ekimus> anyone using portsentry? I configured it to use KILL_ROUTE=iptables -I INPUT -s $TARGET$ -j DROP but when I portscan the box from somewhere outside it doesn't react. it says the box is already blocked but nowhere any action....
[09:38] <motin_> Rob125: if only the app would run over wine
[09:38] <motin_> :)
[09:38] <Rob125> alas, indeed.
[09:38] <zntneo> Hello i have an ip address for my wireless card but i still do not have internet access with it anyone have any idea?
[09:39] <gnu2it2> cb01
[09:39] <motin_> LjL: I'll risk trying :)
[09:39] <LjL> ekimus, i'm not familiar with portsentry, but that iptables command looks like it would drop any incoming packet that's not already part of a connection without a second thought
[09:39] <LjL> so i guess portsentry wouldn't even ever get to see them
[09:39] <zntneo> anyone?
[09:39] <jamey> zntneo, can you ping your router?
[09:40] <ekimus> LjL:  that's what portsentry should issue _after_ it saw suspicious packets, so no need to care about it any more. it should be dropped
[09:41] <LjL> ekimus: i see
[09:41] <zntneo> jamey: right now i'm on the laptop that has the wireless is on
[09:41] <zntneo> is there a way i can make the ping go through the wireless
[09:41] <zntneo> with out disconnecting my ethernet
[09:42] <jamey> zntneo, I don't think you understand: pinging is just an act of sending a packet over your network connection
[09:42] <DeadFlash> I have a little USB flash drive that I can't get to mount, it says there is no fs on in, but if I load it on another computer, it says the fs is FAT, any ideas?
[09:42] <jamey> zntneo, as in... your wireless - which I presume is the only network connection
[09:42] <LjL> jamey, i think the issue is that he's got two interfaces running - the wireless and an ethernet
[09:42] <jamey> LjL, good call
[09:42] <liri> If I'm working with 2.6.15-27-686 do I need the linux-386  package?
[09:42] <jamey> zntneo, so disable eth0 or eth1 in the network config app
[09:42] <LjL> why can't you just disconnect the ethernet zntneo?
[09:43] <jamey> or that
[09:43] <zntneo> LjL: then i'll loose my connection to the chat
[09:43] <thevenin> lol
[09:43] <jamey> haha
[09:43] <LjL> zntneo: well, disabling it will have the same effect. you could set a route
[09:43] <DeadFlash> or is there a way to just tell my kernel to recompile?
[09:43] <LjL> like "route add IP-address-of-your-router dev name-of-your-wifi-interface"
[09:44] <LjL> e.g. "route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlan0"
[09:44] <zntneo> maybe i'll try disabling my eth0 real quick again and test if its working then come back in
[09:44] <LjL> though i'd still just try with the ethernet disconnected tbh
[09:44] <LjL> zntneo, if you're fast enough, chances are your IRC client (or the server) won't even notice a disconnection
[09:45] <dcordes> how can i accept a file transfer in licq?
[09:45] <jamey> please can someone help me with my networking problem?
[09:46] <thevenin> jamey: what is your networking problem?
[09:46] <jamey> thevenin, this is it:
[09:46] <jamey> I have done a minimal install on an old box but it now hangs on "Configuring networking..." During the setup stage when it is configuring the base system, ethernet worked and could ping domains. How can I get it to work again?
[09:46] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : how can i change passwords for 5 diff users at the same time ?
[09:47] <YoussefAssad> hello
[09:47] <alanhaggai> Hi friend :)
[09:47] <dcordes> which port does icq use to transfer files?
[09:47] <thevenin> jamey: you can not boot at all it freezes when configuring networking
[09:47] <YoussefAssad> How do I know what CPU arch I have? Says here Pentium M 740, but what is that, P4? Pentium M? Celeron?
[09:47] <nebajoth> I answered a series a questions during Ubuntu Edgy Eft Installation regarding keyboard layout, and now I have weird shift-key behaviour.  How do I change this back to normal?
[09:47] <thevenin> cpl-tnt747: do it individually
[09:47] <LjL> cpl-tnt747, not sure you can
[09:48] <jamey> thevenin, yes it goes through the boot scripts fine until that point and then freezes - no response via keyboard etc
[09:48] <zntneo> ok i'm on it right now
[09:48] <zntneo> ok i'm back
[09:48] <YoussefAssad> oh, cpuid takes care o' that.... nm
[09:48] <thevenin> hrm, i am not quite sure what would cause that sorry, maybe try and boot disconnected from the network
[09:48] <LjL> jamey: that should be the point when it's trying DHCP...
[09:48] <zntneo> ok i'm back
[09:49] <zntneo> damn't i didn't try some brb again
[09:49] <hamdinp> Are anybody install 7zip?
[09:49] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : u know something like cr8ing a password file .. and use chpasswd < pwlist (which is the file we created )
[09:49] <jamey> LjL, yes I think so... I forgot to mention that I tried changing /etc/network/interfaces to a static config since it didn't do it via DHCP.
[09:50] <Maggotin> Hello
[09:50] <alanhaggai> Hi friend :)
[09:50] <LjL> cpl-tnt747, very bad idea to keep plaintext passwords in a file anyway
[09:50] <Maggotin> Dumb question, what's the command to display a cow on terminal? xD
[09:50] <LjL> jamey, tried ctrl+c?
[09:50] <LjL> Maggotin: apt-get moo
[09:50] <Maggotin> Thanks!
[09:51] <zntneo> LjL: This is what it is showing in dmesg over and over again
[09:51] <zntneo> wlan0: tx error 0x20, buf 10!
[09:51] <zntneo> but with different ending numbers
[09:51] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : we only use the pass file for the change ...  after that we deleting it
[09:51] <jamey> LjL, yes I did a couple of times but it never seemed to skip that step or it would skip all steps before it and then continue with "Confguring networking..."
[09:51] <LjL> no clue, have no wireless here
[09:52] <LjL> cpl-tnt747: doesn't matter, the data is still written to the disk, and deleting the file doesn't remove that
[09:52] <nebajoth> I answered a series a questions during Ubuntu Edgy Eft Installation regarding keyboard layout, and now I have weird shift-key behaviour.  Especially with quotations.  I have to hit shift twice to get a double quotation mark, etc.  I believe it has something to with it being an international keyboard layout, but I am not sure how to change it back.
[09:52] <LjL> jamey: is it "configuring network" or "configuring network interfaces"? and is it usplash or a text-mode boot? (guess the latter)
[09:53] <jamey> LjL, it's configuring network and text mode (server/minimal install)
[09:53] <Rob125> nebajoth: go 'system -> preferences -> keyboard'
[09:53] <cpl-tnt747> LjL the passwords are there no matter what u do only now there not encrypted
[09:53] <nebajoth> I did
[09:53] <nebajoth> I tried fiddling with it
[09:53] <nebajoth> and nothing doing
[09:54] <LjL> cpl-tnt747: precisely... if you do it the standard way, there are just hashes. if you put them in a plaintext file, they're there unencrypted
[09:54] <cpl-tnt747> there have to be a way managing 100 users password and reseting them all ?
[09:54] <Rob125> neba: then go to layouts, add the standard one you want, and delete the bad, no?
[09:54] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : there have to be a way managing 100 users password and reseting them all ?
[09:54] <CharlieSu> Has anyone an encrypted /home partition?
[09:54] <nebajoth> Rob125: the problem is I cannot find the one I want
[09:54] <nebajoth> theres US English Alternative international
[09:54] <Rob125> neba: which're you looking for?
[09:55] <GeForce> damn this sucks, I'm trying to install VLC, or ffmpeg.... neither will work as "some required packages are not installable"
[09:55] <nebajoth> or US English International
[09:55] <GeForce> :(
[09:55] <nebajoth> or Dvorak, or Russian
[09:55] <jkimball4> what is the path for system-wide symbolic links?
[09:55] <nebajoth> anything that makes my keyboard work like a standard American 104-key keyboard
[09:55] <nebajoth> without crazy internationalized characters
[09:55] <nebajoth>
[09:55] <nebajoth> pssht
[09:56] <LjL> cpl-tnt747, so you want to give all users the same password?
[09:56] <thevenin> cpl-tnt747: have you read the man page on passwd
[09:56] <Rob125> neba: just add the 'us english' without expanding the tab and picking one
[09:56] <thevenin> --all or something along the lines might be helpfull to you not quite sure
[09:56] <thevenin> well -a sorry
[09:56] <nebajoth> aha
[09:56] <LjL> jamey, i don't know, try booting in single user and checking the logs...
[09:56] <nebajoth> Rob125: thankee
[09:56] <Rob125> le voila :)
[09:57] <cpl-tnt747> thevenin yes didnt undestood what im suppose to do to change passwords for 100 users ...
[09:57] <nebajoth> Rob125: that did it.  "THANK YOU" "MY" "FRIEND".
[09:57] <nebajoth> omg, I missed you, double quotations
[09:57] <nebajoth> I missed you so much
[09:57] <Rob125> hehe
[09:57] <nebajoth> thanks
[09:57] <Rob125> glad you're reunited, neba
[09:57] <LjL> thevenin nope, it can only be used to show user information, not to change it
[09:57] <jamey> LjL, how do I do single user boot?
[09:57] <cpl-tnt747> Ljl : I want it both ways : reseting all , pet user control with password file
[09:57] <thevenin> oh
[09:58] <MenZa> I try to umount a device of mine, but I get 'device busy', though I'm not using it. How do I force it to umount?
[09:58] <LjL> jamey, either recovery mode, of if that's not there on minimal/server, boot with "init=/bin/sH"
[09:58] <LjL> h even
[09:58] <cpl-tnt747> LjL i think the only way is to cr8 a password file in root and encrypt it ...
[09:58] <mikkelk> Hi. I have a Logitech MX 1000 mouse. I want one of the buttons on the side of the mouse to send a "normal" doubble click. How do I do that? Here is what Xev gives me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31992/
[09:58] <hamdinp> I  download  p7zip-full_4.43~dfsg.1-1_i386.deb now
[09:58] <Hate> Hello
[09:58] <alanhaggai> Hi friend :)
[09:58] <TrolLlock> excuse me but im trying to install ubuntu on my computer... but it says something about no root file system... help...
[09:58] <godstand2> none of the ndswrapper crap work for my wire less
[09:58] <Hate> Seems like i'm not the only one wanting help
[09:58] <jamey> LjL, I did actually try recovery mode from GRUB but it performed the same boot step anyway...
[09:59] <LjL> cpl-tnt747: then just boot with init=/bin/sh
[09:59] <Rob125> troll: you need a free space to put ubuntu, with a mount point of '/'
[09:59] <cpl-tnt747> ?
[09:59] <TrolLlock> i did all that
[09:59] <Rob125> ie, a partition
[09:59] <FirstStrike> Anyone have experience with a Dell Inspirion E1505? I know that the wireless normally doesn't work out of the box, but after a fresh install it won't connect to the internet via directly hooking the laptop up to the modem either. In fact, in the connection properties only 'lo' shows up while no eth0/eth1 is available.
[09:59] <FirstStrike> Any ideas?
[09:59] <LjL> cpl-tnt747: apt-cache show makepasswd
[09:59] <Hate> Anyone know how to install ubuntu correctly to boot off of a External USB HDD?
[09:59] <TrolLlock> i got a hdd with 110 gb so it shouldnt be any problems with space
[10:00] <FirstStrike> I'm not too worried about wireless..I just want to get the wired net working
[10:00] <Rob125> does it have windows on it, Trol?
[10:00] <Hate> Anyone know how to install ubuntu correctly to boot off of a External USB HDD?
[10:00] <ernst_jandl> good evening! anyone familiar with HAL? i added some rules to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi, in order to mount my external usb drive with different options, but hal seems to ignore them...
[10:00] <slavi1> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/71794
[10:00] <TrolLlock> yes it does...
[10:01] <Rob125> and do you have a seperate partition for lin and win?
[10:01] <LjL> jamey: then just boot with init=/bin/sh (sorry, already said that but addressed to the wrong guy...)
[10:01] <godstand2> i have done all that the web site said
[10:01] <jamey> LjL, okay thanks np
[10:01] <Hate> Can anyone help me or is this the ignore game?
[10:01] <godstand2> nano nana not
[10:01] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : thank this is handy , but not answering my target and is to change multi user with special password each
[10:01] <LjL> cpl-tnt747, sorry, the /bin/sh bit was for jamey not you (though the apt-cache bit was for you)
[10:01] <slavi1> LjL: my problem also affects the login shell or whatever gdm uses for logging in
[10:01] <TrolLlock> well i was trying to reformat the thing with windows but should i do that before i try to install it? wont if become ntfs that way anyway?
[10:01] <godstand2> the lights are on
[10:01] <TrolLlock> but i do got a partition on 20 gb
[10:02] <Rob125> trol: the easiest way, i find, is to partition when installing
[10:02] <godstand2> but no internet connection
[10:02] <Hate> s
[10:02] <TrolLlock> ok rob
[10:02] <LjL> cpl-tnt747, here the description also says "It can also encrypt plaintext passwords given in a temporary file."
[10:02] <godstand2> even wifi says it has ip address
[10:02] <TrolLlock> ill try installing it on the partition with 20 gb
[10:02] <Hate> Anyone help me?
[10:02] <Rob125> Hate: nope, sorry - if nobody's answering, no one knows the answer.
[10:02] <Rob125> have you done a google?
[10:02] <LjL> !patience | Hate
[10:02] <Hate> Yes.
[10:02] <ubotu> Hate: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:03] <godstand2> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[10:03] <Hate> I have tried on google.
[10:03] <godstand2> Please
[10:03] <slavi1> LjL: any idea about using an active directory printer?
[10:03] <lsdmt> was wondering if anybody had recommendations for a 5.1 soundcard that will be easily configured in both ubuntu and desktop bsd?
[10:03] <mcquaid> does anyone use amaranth's rep for the latest nvidia drivers?
[10:03] <Rob125> can't do anything, mate - i have no clue
[10:03] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : ok thanks im chking it now
[10:03] <mcquaid> just want to see if anyone has had good results with them
[10:03] <master0onxbox> plz somebody.. why do I have2have the terminal window up for the rtorrent program to download?
[10:03] <LjL> slavi1: haha nope fortunately my small home network has no active whateverness in it :P
[10:03] <godstand2> 2wire wireless pcmcia card
[10:03] <slavi1> this is at work ...
[10:04] <godstand2> 802.11b
[10:04] <zntneo> is there anyway i can remove a native driver so i can try ndiswrapper?
[10:04] <LjL> slavi1: the gksudo thing is strange. you could probably try making a support ticket as well, as a bug i'm not sure it'll have much fortune, as long as nobody else can confirm it...
[10:04] <slavi1> LjL: and the password thing, any ideas?
[10:04] <Tomcat_> zntneo: sudo rmmod <driver>
[10:04] <slavi1> LjL: the gksudo is also when I am logging in through gdm
[10:04] <hamdinp> how am I install p7zip-full_4.43~dfsg.1-1_i386.deb ?
[10:05] <LjL> !info p7zip-full
[10:05] <ubotu> p7zip-full: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.42.dfsg.1-2 (edgy), package size 1310 kB, installed size 3456 kB
[10:05] <TrolLlock> rob its still saying same thing
[10:05] <LjL> hamdinp: do you really need 4.43 as opposed to 4.42? =)
[10:05] <slavi1> LjL: at home, I have gdm to log me in automatically and X crashes the first time it tries to load ... then I still have to log in (second time that X goes up)
[10:05] <godstand2> hey z
[10:05] <lsdmt> was wondering if anybody had recommendations for a 5.1 soundcard that will be easily configured in both ubuntu and desktop bsd?
[10:05] <TrolLlock> must the file system be something? else than ntfs i mean
[10:05] <unfo> godstand2: hi
[10:05] <godstand2> still working on wireless
[10:06] <unfo> hi all, how do I uninstall a package and all packages that it installed along with it?
[10:06] <godstand2> is the a wireless tech here?
[10:06] <LjL> unfo: "apt-get remove <package>", and "apt-get autoremove" to remove the rest
[10:07] <LjL> unfo: (that will also remove *other* packages that are not needed anymore, that were installed by *other* removed programs, if any)
[10:07] <Rob125> Trol: yeah, you should use ext3 for linux :)
[10:07] <sjbrown> unfo, also you could do "sudo synaptic"
[10:07] <hamdinp>  apt-get install ./p7zip-full_4.43~dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
[10:07] <LjL> sjbrown: or "gksudo synaptic" even ;)
[10:07] <hamdinp> Reading package lists... Done
[10:07] <hamdinp> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:07] <hamdinp> E: Couldn't find package .
[10:07] <hamdinp> root@HANEPOubuntu:/home/hnp/Desktop#
[10:07] <mcquaid> does anyone use amaranth's rep for nvidia drivers?
[10:07] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell hamdinp about paste
[10:07] <Discerer> hmm my iwconfig shows up fine and the wlan0 worked before I rebooted. now I don't even get an IP. ideas?
[10:07] <erUSUL> unfo: sjbrown gksudo for x apps it is safer
[10:07] <LjL> hamdinp, it's "apt-get install p7zip-full"
[10:08] <erUSUL> !paste | hamdinp
[10:08] <ubotu> hamdinp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:08] <LjL> hamdinp: read about APT a little. you don't manually download and then install - the apt-get command downloads *and* installs
[10:08] <unfo> LjL: does autoremove require 6.10? I have 6.06 and I get: E: Invalid operation autoremove
[10:08] <LjL> unfo: yes, it does
[10:08] <anan> hi, does anyone know a better program than sabayon to manage and create(&lock) a default profile in ubuntu ??
[10:08] <orangefly> how do i disconnect one user to access another samba share user....???....
[10:08] <LjL> unfo: with 6.06, you have a tough luck, unless you used aptitude to install the program
[10:08] <Hate> were can I find the latest ubuntu
[10:08] <LjL> unfo: "deborphan" and/or "debfoster" can be of some help, but don't really do what you asked for
[10:09] <LjL> Hate: http://www.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <Hate> Well
[10:09] <Hate> I did and I ended up with 6.06
[10:09] <LjL> Hate: evidently you clicked on the wrong link. there's links to both.
[10:09] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : How can i check if my user accounts password updated without exiting the shell ?
[10:09] <Hate> What do you recommend for use?
[10:09] <unfo> sjbrown: how will running synaptic help if I don't know what packages my package pulled in?
[10:10] <juraj> ok I need a tip
[10:10] <LjL> Hate: Dapper is supported for longer. i don't recommend anything.
[10:10] <Hate> My External USB HDD won't make my pc boot from it. My girlfriends laptop boots from it but it has issues dir. wise.
[10:10] <Hate> Any suggestions on helping me get it working?
[10:10] <unfo> Hate: I recommend 6.06.
[10:10] <juraj> I moved around my partitions, and now dapper won't boot, it's stuck on "waiting for root fs"
[10:10] <LjL> cpl-tnt747: "su - username", but not from the root account
[10:10] <unfo> Hate: maybe use a boot partition on your internal HD?
[10:10] <unfo> a small one.
[10:10] <juraj> do I need to adjust anything except /etc/fstab?
[10:11] <lullabud> Hate:  that might be a hardware problem.  lot's of pc's are unable to boot from external usb disks.
[10:11] <Hate> No space on my internal hdd :(
[10:11] <cpl-tnt747> LjL so from what ?
[10:11] <unfo> Hate: not even 10MB?
[10:11] <jughead> How do I scan for nearby wireless networks?
[10:11] <LjL> cpl-tnt747, from any other account. you could use "su - thataccount" first to move to it without closing the shell
[10:11] <Hate> I have about 2 gigs but its all page disc.
[10:11] <LjL> cpl-tnt747: to go back, just type exit
[10:11] <juraj> please, anyone?
[10:11] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how vmware works and what i need?
[10:11] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : ahhh ! good ! working and the password file working as well !
[10:11] <LjL> Hate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[10:11] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Hate about install
[10:11] <Hate> My pc has an option in BIOS to boot from SCIS ...
[10:11] <zoople> How do i modify GRUB so that I can change it so that WInows boots as default
[10:12] <lullabud> juraj:  boot to the desktop cd and reconfigure the fstab.
[10:12] <KenSentMe> !vmware | livingdaylight
[10:12] <ubotu> livingdaylight: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[10:12] <cpl-tnt747> LjL : just changed passwords for 1440 users thanks !
[10:12] <nekr0z> how do I set up LC_ALL in locales? it is not set, whatever I do
[10:12] <juraj> lullabud: yeah, I know, do I need to fix anything else except fstab?
[10:12] <Hate> All the files are on it.
[10:12] <unfo> livingdaylight: if you want to run ubuntu inside windows, you need vmware server. it's freeware. http://www.vmware.com/products/server
[10:12] <juraj> thanks on your reply though
[10:12] <LjL> livingdaylight: it works by black magic. you need a computer.
[10:12] <lullabud> zoople:  look for the "default" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:12] <zoople> thanks :)
[10:12] <Hate> My BIOS says I can so thats why I am curious.
[10:12] <livingdaylight> unfo, no, its the other way round, i need windows to run in ubuntu
[10:12] <Rob125> juraj: when i did the same, I didn't have to.
[10:12] <slavi1> LjL: why don't you have the magic 'fixit' button?
[10:12] <lullabud> juraj:  not sure, did you change anything else?
[10:13] <LjL> livingdaylight: try vmware-player
[10:13] <livingdaylight> LjL, its not funny, i have a avery small computer
[10:13] <juraj> no, okay, I'll go fix fstab ;)
[10:13] <orangefly> can anyone help with ubuntu server....???....
[10:13] <livingdaylight> LjL, i'm wondering what i need to handle it
[10:13] <LjL> livingdaylight: contrary to the other versions, it can't create new virtual machines, but you can use http://www.easyvmx.com for that
[10:13] <Rob125> define help, orangefly
[10:13] <juraj> thanks
[10:13] <lullabud> !ask
[10:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:13] <LjL> livingdaylight, i'd say at the very least 320Mb of RAM. 512 much preferred
[10:13] <lullabud> what's up orangefly ?
[10:13] <LjL> livingdaylight: but, never say never.
[10:14] <nuts7> uhm I just hit a key now my irssi is way darker.. argh
[10:14] <variant> how do you change the screen brightness on ubuntu?
[10:14] <livingdaylight> LjL, hey i got 512mbRam!! kazooo!
[10:14] <Rob125> variant: look for the button on your monitor
[10:14] <LjL> livingdaylight: then just sudo apt-get install vmware-player and have fun
[10:14] <livingdaylight> LjL, but i don't have 3D graphics card
[10:14] <variant> Rob125: funny, but this is a laptop
[10:14] <orangefly> how do i end a connection and login to another account....???....
[10:14] <Rob125> ahh
[10:14] <LjL> livingdaylight, that's no problem, vmware doesn't support it anyway
[10:14] <livingdaylight> LjL, what about qemu, somebody mentioned
[10:14] <LjL> (well it does, very experimentally though)
[10:15] <lullabud> orangefly:  ....with what?
[10:15] <variant> orangefly: with ssh, ctrl d will log you out
[10:15] <Rob125> on my laptop, variant, i have like a function + right arrow key to do that
[10:15] <orangefly> samba....
[10:15] <slavi1> LjL: how do I open a support issue?
[10:15] <variant> Rob125: yeah, doesnt work with ubuntu on this lappy
[10:15] <munim> hey everybody
[10:15] <slavi1> on launchpad?
[10:15] <Hate> I guess ill just burn a new disc with this stuff when my gf comes over.
[10:15] <lullabud> orangefly:  you can connect as smb://user:pass@host/share
[10:15] <Hate> =x
[10:15] <orangefly> just file server....
[10:15] <Rob125> variant: weird, what kind of lappy do you have?
[10:15] <Languid> anyone here have a radeon x800 with tv-out working with the fglrx drivers?
[10:15] <LjL> livingdaylight: qemu is free software, contrary to vmware, but it's slower to be honest. it emulates the CPU i think, while VMWare uses the host CPU directly. there's kqemu that speeds it up, but then it's not free software
[10:15] <variant> Rob125: toshiba satellite pro a60
[10:15] <LjL> slavi1: yeah somewhere on launchpad, don't remember exactly
[10:15] <munim> does anyone know how i can run windows applications in ubuntu? i coudn't find Wine in the package manager for download
[10:16] <LjL> !info wine | munim
[10:16] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[10:16] <lullabud> Hate:  you may be able to install grub on your internal hard disk and configure it to boot from the external disk.
[10:16] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell minum about universe
[10:16] <variant> livingdaylight: i use qemu to run windows 2003
[10:16] <lupine_85> !repositories
[10:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:16] <orangefly> it keeps me always logged in....
[10:16] <livingdaylight> LjL, i see, vmware is non-free :0 but it runs in ubuntu?
[10:16] <variant> livingdaylight: it is very good if you use the proprietry kqemu module
[10:16] <lupine_85> doesn't work for all programs though
[10:16] <_david_> hey, how do I enable automatic logon?
[10:16] <Rob125> variant: sorry, dude, dunno.
[10:16] <LjL> !info vmware-player | livingdaylight
[10:16] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[10:16] <nekr0z> Rob125: to language problem again: looks like I lack the LC_ALL setting. How do I set it up?
[10:16] <Hate> I see, but its a bit confusing to me...
[10:16] <Rob125> nekr0z: askin' the wrong guy. I have noo clue.
[10:16] <LjL> livingdaylight: generally things that don't work in Ubuntu aren't put into the repositories, you know :P
[10:16] <Madhouze> hey alls....
[10:16] <livingdaylight> LjL, so, sudo apt-get install vmware
[10:17] <lullabud> _david_:  it's in preferences -> login window or something like that.
[10:17] <jamesbrink> how do i compile a single module
[10:17] <LjL> no, sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[10:17] <_david_> ok, I'll try taht
[10:17] <jamesbrink> rather than running make modules_install
[10:17] <livingdaylight> LjL, you know, i didn't know that?! :D
[10:17] <zoople> next question: how come i cant print in landspace with envicE?
[10:17] <Madhouze> can anyone help me- i have 2 problems: 1. whenever i try to run a game or a video full screen my xserver dies... can still go to other VTs but cannot do a thing on VT7.
[10:18] <Madhouze> problem 2: i cannot add or edit any of my session startup programs... whenever i do, it does not save the changes i made.
[10:18] <smccoy> so I'm trying to kill my gnome configuration
[10:18] <smccoy> I rm -r'd .gnome* .gconf* and friends
[10:18] <Madhouze> good luck smccoy
[10:18] <smccoy> killed all the gnome daemons etc
[10:18] <munim> hey i have universe in the package manager.. still can't find it using "Search"
[10:18] <nekr0z> Rob125: tnx anyway :)
[10:19] <Rob125> :)
[10:19] <anan> does anyone know another profile manager than sabayon on Gnome ??
[10:20] <nekr0z> Please anybody! How do I set LC_ALL? Using export only works for some time, and I need a permanent fix.
[10:20] <zach634> can someone explain to me how to use screen? (and not just RTFM)
[10:20] <landan> zach634: ctrl+a+d to detach
[10:20] <smccoy> how can I fix this sheeit
[10:20] <landan> screen -r to rejoin
[10:20] <smccoy> I just want the default configuration
[10:20] <zach634> landan: through ssh?
[10:20] <landan> yeah
[10:20] <landan> screen
[10:20] <lullabud> zach634:  `screen -S screenname` to create a named screen session
[10:20] <landan> then launch your shizzle
[10:21] <lullabud> zach634:  `screen -r screenname` to reattach to that specific screen.
[10:21] <godstand2> still need help with wireless pcmcia card
[10:21] <zach634> lullabud: how do i detach from screen and just use bash?
[10:21] <lullabud> zach634:  `screen -ls` to list them.  `screen -r pid#` to re-attach to an unnamed screen.
[10:21] <lupine_85> godstand2: which chipsert?
[10:21] <lullabud> zach634:  ctrl-a ctrl-d
[10:21] <lupine_85> chipset*
[10:21] <godstand2> agere
[10:21] <Madhouze> help- my Xserver dies everytime i try to run a game or video on full screen! i have the nvidia drivers installed.
[10:21] <Doow> if I know a program and what package it exists in, how can I easiest figure out what package the corresponding source code is in?
[10:22] <LjL> cpl-tnt747, i forgot to say, use "shred" to erase the contents of the plaintext passwords file when you're finished
[10:22] <godstand2> pcmcia
[10:22] <lupine_85> do you have a model number?
[10:22] <lupine_85> the line from lspci would be helpful
[10:22] <nuts7> how can I find out which nvidia glx drivers I got installed?
[10:22] <zach634> lullabud: if i'm ssh-ing from a windows machine, would i just type ^A^D?
[10:22] <godstand2> 802.11b
[10:22] <godstand2> opps
[10:22] <tag> now I start up and my workspace is entirely empty
[10:22] <godstand2> wait L
[10:22] <tag> anyone have any pointers?
[10:23] <lullabud> zach634:  if you ssh in, when your session begins you're not attached to a screen session.  you could attach by doing `screen -r pid#`.  then to detach, do ^a^d
[10:23] <LjL> tag: yes, i've got a pointer to NULL right here
[10:23] <sidewalk`> how do i get unrar to work in ubuntu? what package do i install?
[10:23] <nuts> how can I find out which nvidia glx drivers I got installed?!? pls
[10:23] <zach634> woah! wait a sec! does ubuntu-server not come with screen?
[10:23] <mcquaid> nuts launch synaptic and type nvidia in the search
[10:23] <lullabud> zach634:  nope.
[10:24] <martyyyr> lullabud...
[10:24] <Discerer> so... after reboot my ndiswrapper-enabled wireless card doesn't get an IP from the DHCP router.  GRRR
[10:24] <tag> LjL: but if you have a pointer to a solution, that might work
[10:24] <mcquaid> sidewalk`, just installed unrar
[10:24] <lullabud> martyyyr:  wtf?  what bios problem?
[10:24] <nuts> mcquaid: yeah well I updated them somewhen because I wanted to use beryl
[10:24] <lupine_85> or nuts: what repo did you use?
[10:24] <nuts> sec
[10:24] <hamdinp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32002/
[10:24] <lupine_85> or did you use the binary from the nvidia website?
[10:25] <martyyyr> lullabud: my bios didn't recognize my sata disk anymore.. so it never got the chance to get to the bootloader
[10:25] <godstand2> cant figure it out
[10:25] <LjL> tag: NULL isn't a pointer, it's a value. anyway i don't use gnome so i don't really know, but how did that happen? did you do anything that might have caused that? can you right click on the desktop and get a "Create panel" option or somesuch?
[10:25] <lupine_85> godstand2: run "lspci". paste the !1! line that is related to the card
[10:25] <mcquaid> i was about to try the amaranth rep which contains 9629
[10:25] <livingdaylight> variant, sorry, i missed your message, i was downloading vmware already. So, which is better? Obviously, you chose qemu, any particular reason?
[10:25] <mcquaid> anyone try them yet?
[10:25] <lupine_85> mcquaid: yep :)
[10:25] <oli_> Hum... I just installed my ATi drive on Edgy Eft and I can't click on any of my KDE taskbar(mac-style one or bottom one) but I can moved between desktops and all, I can click on my application-menus on top, it all updates correctly but when I click on the taskbar, nothing happens!!
[10:25] <sidewalk`> mcquaid: is it a package, or something i have to download myself ?
[10:25] <nuts> lupine_85: deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm
[10:25] <lupine_85> yeah, that'll be 9629 then
[10:26] <tag> Aha
[10:26] <tag> got it
[10:26] <tag> thanks kids
[10:26] <nuts> can I upgrade to the newest in some way lupine_85 ?
[10:26] <mcquaid> lupine_85, how do they work for you? any issues?
[10:26] <lupine_85> nvidia-settings is a GUI app that will show version as well
[10:26] <lupine_85> what, 97xx ?
[10:26] <mcquaid> sidewalk`, sudo apt-get install unrar and your good
[10:26] <nuts> lupine_85: yeah
[10:26] <lullabud> martyyyr:  but you said it worked with that other distro....
[10:26] <zach634> does wget work with ftp links?
[10:26] <lupine_85> all they add is support for the 8xx chipsets
[10:26] <hamdinp> Is there anybody that looking http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32002/
[10:26] <martyyyr> lullabud: yeah it did... it really did...
[10:26] <lupine_85> unless you have one (500ish, IIRC), there's no point
[10:26] <Enselic> I seem to have messed somethingup. When I try to launch gedit from a terminal, I get this: gedit: /home/martin/mono-1.2/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[10:26] <lullabud> zach634:  yes.
[10:27] <martyyyr> lullabud: I have no idea why it changed
[10:27] <nuts> lupine_85: hmm so no speedup perfomace wise??
[10:27] <lupine_85> mcquaid: they work fine
[10:27] <lupine_85> shouldn't be
[10:27] <lullabud> martyyyr:  cosmic rays from outer space flipping your bits.
[10:27] <mcquaid> cool, i'll try them now
[10:27] <sidewalk`> mcquaid: oh, but it doesnt work for me :-)
[10:27] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[10:27] <martyyyr> lullabud: lol, I bet that's it
[10:27] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[10:27] <godstand2> 0000:00:04:0 CardBus bridge: Texas instruments pci 1225 (rev01)
[10:27] <ernst_jandl> anyone familiar with automounting in ubuntu?
[10:27] <martyyyr> lullabud: anyway,  thanks a lot for your help.. I appreciate it :)
[10:27] <nuts> lupine_85: all right I wanted to speed up my beryl a bit :[ but seems like my gfx with 128mb is oto slow
[10:27] <lupine_85> that's a cardbus bridge, not a wireless card...
[10:27] <geokok> Hi. F-spot wont display the modified pictures in its explorer view. When trying to rename the modified vers it says a png does not exist
[10:28] <mcquaid> sidewalk`, they are part of the multiverse rep, launch synaptic package manager
[10:28] <lupine_85> just pastebin the lot
[10:28] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[10:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:28] <LjL> hamdinp: *NO*, you need to type "sudo apt-get install p7zip-full" (after enabling universe), not the file name. you don't need to download *any* file manually, at least unless you've got a very compelling reason to use version 4.43 instead of 4.42
[10:28] <Doow> do I have to add another repository if I want to get the source for ubuntu packages? or what's the best procedure?
[10:28] <godstand2> but that is where it is
[10:28] <Gh0sty> anyone have an idea for a good frontend for ivtv?
[10:28] <sidewalk`> mcquaid: tnx
[10:28] <lullabud> martyyyr:  you're welcome
[10:28] <Gh0sty> mythtv is way too big for just a teve tool :/
[10:28] <LjL> Doow: source repositories are generally enabled by default (at least, the ones corresponding to binary repositories you have enabled)
[10:28] <mcquaid> sidewalk`, click on settings, repositories and make sure multiverse is checked
[10:28] <lupine_85> Doow: copy the line for the repo that has the binary package, but call it deb-src at the beginning instead of deb
[10:28] <lupine_85> that /almost always/ works
[10:28] <mcquaid> sidewalk`, then do reload and then install it
[10:28] <Madhouze> Help? my Xserver dies everytime i try to run a game or video on full screen! i have the nvidia drivers installed.
[10:29] <sidewalk`> mcquaid: tnx, works fine
[10:29] <aimtrainer__> hi! Can anyone please tell me how to enable sux in ubuntu, cos I cant start non-console-stuff as root
[10:29] <lupine_85> then apt-get source <package>
[10:29] <Doow> ok
[10:29] <lupine_85> aimtrainer__: gksudo <gui-program>
[10:29] <aimtrainer__> lupine_85: thanks!
[10:29] <Discerer> so... after reboot my ndiswrapper-enabled wireless card doesn't get an IP from the DHCP router. It worked great just after installing it but stopped working after reboot. ideas?
[10:30] <godstand2> iam using my desktop to do this here but it is the laptop iam tring to get the card to work
[10:30] <aimtrainer__> lupine_85: doesnt work :( (I have edgy)
[10:30] <acke_> !dapper
[10:30] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[10:30] <admin_> hello, I just got a PPC ubuntu live disk (dapper), and for some odd reason when i boot it in my G3 imac, it will tell me to press enter, then apple firmware comes up (white screen to input commands), i have no idea why this happens, with my toher disks (debian live, xubuntu live) it dosnt
[10:30] <acke_> !edgy
[10:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:30] <thevenin> Discerer: did you try to set it to static IP
[10:30] <LjL> !msg the bot | acke_
[10:30] <ubotu> acke_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[10:30] <Discerer> i dont believe my router allows that but I can try thelsdj
[10:30] <Discerer> thevenin
[10:30] <lupine_85> aimtrainer__: it should do. what's the error message?
[10:31] <thevenin> never heard of a router that didnt allow it but could be wrong
[10:31] <thevenin> i guess
[10:31] <aimtrainer__> lupine_85: bash: gksudo: command not found
[10:31] <admin_> hello, I just got a PPC ubuntu live disk (dapper), and for some odd reason when i boot it in my G3 imac, it will tell me to press enter, then apple firmware comes up (white screen to input commands), i have no idea why this happens, with my toher disks (debian live, xubuntu live) it dosnt
[10:31] <LjL> aimtrainer__: are you on Ubuntu?
[10:31] <lupine_85> aimtrainer__: kdesu ?
[10:32] <aimtrainer__> kubuntu sry that could be it
[10:32] <LjL> aimtrainer__: yes then it's kdesu
[10:32] <lupine_85> yeah :)
[10:32] <aimtrainer__> oh thanks my fault
[10:33] <LjL> aimtrainer__: not really, but you should specify, as most of use assume you're on Ubuntu (i.e. Gnome)
[10:33] <aimtrainer__> yea right
[10:33] <admin_> hello, I just got a PPC ubuntu live disk (dapper), and for some odd reason when i boot it in my G3 imac, it will tell me to press enter, then apple firmware comes up (white screen to input commands), i have no idea why this happens, with my toher disks (debian live, xubuntu live) it dosnt
[10:33] <Discerer> well no difference thevenin... it seems like I dont get a connection to the router (looks like that from iwconfig)
[10:33] <LjL> !repeat | admin_
[10:33] <ubotu> admin_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:33] <lupine_85> #kubuntu for kde-specific questions, of course :)
[10:33] <Doow> hmm... seems deb-src is enabled, but I don't get any source packages listed when I search
[10:34] <lupine_85> they aren't listed
[10:34] <cc77>  /rant dammit why are do many websites still not offer a .deb download
[10:34] <Doow> =)
[10:34] <lupine_85> that would be silly. just apt-get source <package>
[10:34] <Doow> ok
[10:34] <lupine_85> apt-get -b source if you want binaries straight away
[10:34] <LjL> cc77: even if they did, that'd guarantee nothing. you need *Ubuntu* packages (and for the right version of Ubuntu)  -  other packages, even if they're .deb, might break your system, or at least not work
[10:35] <lupine_85> mm, .dsc is the way forward :)
[10:35] <Doow> lupine_85, nah, I'm just gonna look at the source, not recompile anything (atm at least)
[10:35] <lupine_85> gentoobuntu
[10:35] <lupine_85> :D
[10:37] <cc77> LjL, ok didn't  know that but still isn't ubuntu bigger then red hat now? But vmware does offer rpm's
[10:37] <LjL> !info vmware-player | cc77
[10:37] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[10:37] <lullabud> cc77:  ubuntu is definitely not bigger than redhat
[10:37] <cc77> ubotu, didn't know thanks for the tip
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about didn't know thanks for the tip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <LjL> !bot
[10:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:38] <Discerer> weird... it works now, magically
[10:38] <cc77>  ubuto, your a cool bot.
[10:38] <dougsko> cc77: rpm's are for redhat, debs are for debians, but there are multiple debians and one deb doesnt fit all
[10:38] <Khaled> hey all, just upgraded to edgy (using the official method). and erm same problem that seems to be plaguing most people, blank screen after install (I see the loading screen) and then blank when xorg is meant to start I guess
[10:38] <Khaled> erm I think I'm supposed to change the x.org file to say vesa instead of ati
[10:38] <ademan_> eclipse is giving me an error: "error notifying a preference change listener. Check log for details"
[10:38] <zach634> >< shat OS wont execute anything I extract from an archive!
[10:38] <Khaled>  anyone have a link as to where I can find out how to do this?
[10:39] <zach634> or something like that
[10:39] <lupine_85> chmod a+x <binary-name>
[10:39] <cc77> lullabud, but distrowatch has ubuntu on nr1 since its release some years ago.
[10:39] <lupine_85> permissions++
[10:39] <LjL> cc77: that means its page is being visited often
[10:39] <zach634> lupine_85 you talking to me?
[10:39] <lullabud> cc77:  ljl is right, and that's probably because most redhat people get their distros straight from rhn.
[10:40] <liri> after a linux kernel upgrade the video drivers are acting poorly...
[10:40] <lupine_85> zach634: yep
[10:41] <liri> like fglrxgears doesnt do anything
[10:42] <zach634> lupine_85: it's not that, it's if i try to ./ it it says it cannot find the file
[10:42] <zach634> this happened before and i couldnt find a fix for it after chatting in hurr
[10:43] <lupine_85> which is a symptom of a binary file not being +x, among other things
[10:43] <lupine_85> are you /sure/ it's +x ?
[10:43] <zach634> yes
[10:43] <trappist> zach634: what arch are you on? (32bit? 64bit?)
[10:43] <zach634> 64
[10:43] <trappist> zach634: and these files are...
[10:43] <LjL> can be missing libraries as well IIRC
[10:43] <zach634> one was a .bin
[10:43] <trappist> zach634: file filename
[10:43] <LjL> he meant what architecture they're for zach634
[10:43] <lupine_85> ELF? a.out? anything?
[10:44] <zach634> oh
[10:44] <trappist> zach634: is it a 64-bit LSB executable?
[10:44] <zach634> hldsupdatetool.bin wouldnt run, and noe ventrilo_srv wont run
[10:44] <lupine_85> build from souce. makes life so much easier
[10:44] <zach634> what's funny is that they did run when i had ubuntu-desktop installed
[10:44] <lupine_85> source*
[10:44] <LjL> zach634: do type "file <filename>" and tell us
[10:44] <zach634> i am not offered sources for these
[10:44] <Chetic> What package do I install when I get: "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer" ?
[10:44] <trappist> zach634: got that file info yet?
[10:44] <MitchM> Does anyone know if you can pipe dd to two (standard output's)? such as cat file | dd of=<two interfaces>
[10:45] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell chetic about java
[10:45] <Belboz99> hey all, is there an easy way to get a 64-bit kernel working on Edgy Eft, without transferring the whole system to 64-bit?
[10:45] <zach634> ventrilo_srv is indeed an ELF 32-bit LSB executable, intel 80386.  I guess that's why it wont work...
[10:45] <Belboz99> Such as just replacing the kernel?
[10:45] <zach634> but it ran before...
[10:45] <godstand2> sorry i missed alot i had to do a haircut
[10:45] <lullabud> MitchM:  nope, you can't.
[10:45] <hamdinp> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[10:45] <lupine_85> Belboz99: yeah, pretty easy
[10:45] <trappist> MitchM: doesn't seem so
[10:45] <lullabud> MitchM:  at least not with the dd tool itself...
[10:45] <lupine_85> just install a 64-bit kernel
[10:46] <trappist> zach634: what kernel are you running
[10:46] <zach634> not sure, it's ubuntu 6.06
[10:46] <LjL> !info dcfldd | MitchM
[10:46] <ubotu> dcfldd: enhanced version of dd for forensics and security. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 124 kB
[10:46] <Belboz99> lupine_85: great, I just don't see a 64-bit specific kernel listed in Synaptic
[10:46] <dougsko> zach634: uname -a
[10:46] <MitchM> lullabud, Know of any way to do something similar?
[10:46] <lupine_85> it won't be listed because it thinks the architecture is incompatible
[10:46] <lullabud> MidMark:  `dd if=source of=dest1 && dd if=source of=dest2` ;-)
[10:46] <hamdinp> when I double-click p7zip-full_4.43~dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
[10:46] <hamdinp> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[10:46] <zach634> ah yes, 2.6.15-26
[10:46] <godstand2> i need a one on one convo about how to get my 2wire wireless pcmcia card to wor on my HP laptop
[10:46] <lupine_85> download and manually install the .deb
[10:47] <lupine_85> or get a 64-bit chroot going and do it from there
[10:47] <Belboz99> lupine, okay, thanks
[10:47] <LjL> MitchM, lullabud, that program claims to do that
[10:47] <MitchM> lullabud, so cat <source> | dd if=source of=dest1 && dd if=source of=dest2
[10:47] <MitchM> should work fine?
[10:47] <LjL> no
[10:47] <LjL> you can strip the useless "cat" command though
[10:47] <lullabud> LjL:  oh, you're totally right.
[10:47] <lullabud> MitchM:  ljl is right.  i was on the wrong machine when i tested it.  it does work in ubuntu.
[10:47] <LjL> anyway why not have a look at that program, it probably does it more efficiently
[10:48] <hamdinp> when I double-click p7zip-full_4.43~dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
[10:48] <hamdinp> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[10:48] <LjL> lullabud, i was talking about dcfldd
[10:48] <MitchM> This had to be done off a live cd though...
[10:48] <lullabud> LjL:  oh, well i just checked it with dd and it worked.
[10:48] <MitchM> so i cant install any new packages
[10:48] <pip> is there any graphical unrar? i dont really like "unrar" since im having some trouble with it
[10:48] <jared> How do I get firefox to fake the OS and the browser info to a web page?  The page says it doesn't support my os
[10:48] <LjL> lullabud: hm, doesn't here
[10:48] <trappist> pip: it's just 'unrar x filename.rar'
[10:48] <lupine_85> pip: ark, etc can integrate with it fine
[10:48] <Oli_> Hum... I just installed my ATi drive on Edgy Eft and I can't click on any of my KDE taskbar(mac-style one or bottom one) but I can moved between desktops and all, I can click on my application-menus on top, it all updates correctly but when I click on the taskbar, nothing happens!!
[10:49] <lullabud> LjL:  er... sh... *ahem*  you're right.
[10:49] <lullabud> *sigh*
[10:49] <dougsko> pip: or even, rar e <file.rar>
[10:49] <godstand2> i need a one on one convo about how to get my 2wire wireless pcmcia card to wor on my HP laptop
[10:49] <LjL> MitchM: why? if it's an Ubuntu CD, you can.
[10:49] <pip> trappist: im doing just that
[10:49] <Zaehlas> Hello.  I'm having issues with Firestarter, mainly with attempting to share my internet connection.  Would one of the other firewalls be easier to use to do that with?
[10:49] <MitchM> lullabud, so cat <source> | dd of=<dest> && dd of=<dest>
[10:49] <neobonzi> can someone help figure out why my wireless card doesnt start up when i type in ndiswrapper modprobe?
[10:49] <lullabud> MitchM:  no no no
[10:49] <shy_> test, test, 1,2,3. can somebody please tell me if this works?!
[10:49] <godstand2> i need a one on one convo about how to get my 2wire wireless pcmcia card to wor on my HP laptop
[10:49] <trappist> MitchM: if you're going to cat, cat it to tee
[10:49] <godstand2> metoo
[10:50] <LjL> MitchM, *NO*, and why are you using cat anyway
[10:50] <dougsko> Zaehlas: firestarter is probly the easiest firewall gui there is
[10:50] <MitchM> LjL, Im using cat to parse "image" files created by a prior dd
[10:50] <lullabud> MitchM:  you don't need to cat.  if= does the input for you.
[10:50] <MitchM> and im trying to put those (multiple) image files onto 2 seperate HD's at the same time.
[10:50] <LjL> MitchM: so can't you just use dd itself instead of that redundant cat?
[10:50] <shy_> anybody read me?
[10:50] <pip> trappist: im having 92 rar files which i wanna make a .img file, after it has extracted every it just says no files to extract
[10:50] <LjL> shy_: yes
[10:50] <MitchM> dd if=/mnt/image.img.* ?
[10:50] <shy_> THANX! :D
[10:50] <MitchM> i think if is only good for one source
[10:51] <lullabud> MitchM:  yeah, if stands for "input file"
[10:51] <lullabud> MitchM:  of stands for "output file"
[10:51] <LjL> MitchM: ah so that's *multiple* files?
[10:51] <MitchM> lullabud, I know this; wasnt sure if it would read all "147" files.
[10:51] <Zaehlas> Thanks, dougsko, OK, I'm getting an "unknown network error" when I try to enable the DHCP server.  I've installed the DHCP package, and have both network connections set up.
[10:51] <MitchM> yes.
[10:51] <lullabud> MitchM:  oooooh
 = 147 files.
[10:51] <MitchM> so its needed.
[10:51] <LjL> MitchM: i'd consider dcfldd really
[10:51] <dougsko> Zaehlas: fire up ethereal and see whats going on
[10:51] <lullabud> MitchM:  any other important details you left out? ;-)
[10:51] <MitchM> is taht included by default on the 6.10 install?
[10:51] <LjL> MitchM, no
[10:51] <Zaehlas> ethereal?
[10:51] <year0369> Moin
[10:51] <MitchM> LjL, then i cant use it.
[10:52] <LjL> MitchM, why?
[10:52] <year0369> habe eine frage
[10:52] <lullabud> MitchM:  ...like piping it through nc around the world or something. =P
[10:52] <MitchM> LjL, using a live cd on a server.
[10:52] <LjL> !de | year0369
[10:52] <ubotu> year0369: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:52] <LjL> MitchM: and?
[10:52] <dougsko> Zaehlas: start by pinging computers from different perepectives and see where they fail
[10:52] <MitchM> LjL, and it doesnt have access to the internet
[10:52] <cc77> ubotu, vmware
[10:52] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[10:52] <year0369> wenn ich mich anmelde geht mein Anmelde schirm weiter nach links wenn ich die Maus nach rechts bewege
[10:52] <dougsko> !ethereal | Zaehlas
[10:52] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB
[10:52] <jared> How do I get firefox to fake the OS and the browser info to a web page?  The page says it doesn't support my os and firefox 2.0 doesn't support my user agent switch addon
[10:52] <MitchM> LjL, I need to know if cat <source FILES> | dd of=/dev/sda && dd of=/dev/sdb will work
[10:52] <ademan_> eclipse is giving me: "error notifying a preference change listener. Check log for details", what should i do/has anyone had this before?
[10:53] <LjL> MitchM: for the tenth or so time - NO IT WON'T
[10:53] <MitchM> LjL,  k.
[10:53] <MitchM> LjL, So there is no _viable_ solution without download that program
[10:53] <Zaehlas> No ping problems.  No problems reaching "outside" or "inside" computers.  both network interfaces and NICs seem to work fine, it's just that Firestarter errors when it tries to start the DHCP server, and route traffic between the two interfaces
[10:53] <LjL> MitchM, what about tee?
[10:53] <lullabud> MitchM:  that command would work for sda, but not sdb.
[10:53] <MitchM> LjL, If you have an idea with tee im open for suggestions =)
[10:54] <trappist> pip: if they're named like foo.part01.rar, foo.part02.rar and so on, just unrar x foo.part01.rar
[10:54] <LjL> MitchM: well i'm not really sure how well (or badly) it'd interact with device nodes
[10:54] <shy_> I'm having troubles getting a netwok card to work. It's a Belkin F5D5000ef with a Realtek RTL8139 chipset. This seems to be a quite popular chip, so I'm surprised 6.10 doesn't support it out of the box. Can anybody get me up to speed?
[10:54] <pip> well i just dubbel clicked it :(
[10:54] <MitchM> LjL, I'll just do it one at a time then =)
[10:54] <MitchM> Ljl, lullabud thanks for the help :-)
[10:54] <LjL> MitchM: but "cat <source> | tee /dev/sda /dev/sdb >/dev/null" is what i had in mind
[10:54] <Doow> hmm.. more questions... if I know what file I'm looking for, is there any way to find out what package it is in? (it's a source-file)
[10:54] <pip> and now its extracting, but i tried both the .r00 and .rar and neither worked
[10:55] <LjL> !apt-file | Doow
[10:55] <ubotu> Doow: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[10:55] <trappist> Doow: sudo apt-get install apt-file;sudo apt-file update; apt-file search filename
[10:55] <BleSS> is there any package for easyeclipse (python)?
[10:55] <pip> now i only have to get that dvd decryption and a played to play .img files :P, but i think ive got some nice guides from LjL :)
[10:55] <Doow> LjL, damn, you're fast =)
[10:55] <LjL> Doow: when i know the answer ;)
[10:55] <Doow> LjL, sofar you've answered almost everything I've asked
[10:56] <Vorbote> shy_: there are *two* different drivers, 8139 and 8139too, try the second one. Two differnt chipsets, same brand model, blame the vendor.
[10:56] <pip> yeah LjL is like a bot :)
[10:56] <pip> what if he is? =o
[10:56] <Vorbote> shy_: s/8139/8139cp/
[10:56] <Chetic> I have uncommented all the stuff in sources.list but I still can't get to the sun-java5-bin package for some reason! It's in the multiverse
[10:56] <LjL> pip: i don't know about what if i am. please try searching on help.ubuntu.com
[10:56] <pip> Chetic: apt-get update
[10:57] <zach634> !LjL
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LjL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <shy_> Vorbote: I tried the driver that came with the card and got a compile error.
[10:57] <kmaynard> he needs an entry
[10:57] <shy_> Vorbote: do you know of a binary installer?
[10:57] <kmaynard> and it should include the phrase Italian Stallion
[10:57] <pip> LjL: you are still imba :)
[10:58] <Doow> do all of you regulars here use apt-get instead of synaptic btw? or just that it's easier to write apt-get install rndpkg than: start synaptic, click search...etc
[10:58] <firebird619> I had been using KDE and had kdm set as the default, however, I want to switch back to GNOME/gdm. When I enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm it says invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed. How can I fix this?
[10:58] <rmjb> hi, I see in my .bash_history it's supposed to set ~/bin in my PATH, and it does so if I log on to a virtual console, but not a gnome-terminal... anyone knows why?
[10:58] <zach634> LjL is a helpful member on the #ubuntu channel on irc.freenode.net.  He is multi-lingual and knows the answers to everything.  Also, Italian Stallion.
[10:58] <Vorbote> shy_: the card has a native dirver. Why would you want to use a vendor supplied (and most probably outdated) dirver?
[10:59] <Vorbote> shy_: s/dirver/driver/ (dislexia attacks again..
[10:59] <kmaynard> lol zach634
[10:59] <pip> Doow: apt-get is imba :)
[10:59] <pip> so L2use it
[10:59] <shy_> Vorbote: that's native as in native to Ubuntu?
[10:59] <Doow> pip, last distro I used was debian stable, so I'm kinda used to it
[10:59] <BHSPitMonkey> hey, all
[10:59] <Vorbote> shy_: As in native in the Linux kernel
[11:00] <Doow> pip, just cirous over these new graphical thingies
[11:00] <Chetic> pip, I did that
[11:00] <Vorbote> shy_: Ubuntu==GNU userspace + Linux kernel
[11:00] <Chetic> I have uncommented all the stuff in sources.list but I still can't get to the sun-java5-bin package for some reason! It's in the multiverse
[11:00] <pip> ah ok, well i like graphical things more too
[11:00] <rmjb> hi, I see in my .bash_history it's supposed to set ~/bin in my PATH, and it does so if I log on to a virtual console, but not a gnome-terminal... anyone knows why?
[11:00] <pip> but i wanna learn 2 use terminal more
[11:00] <kmaynard> Iubotu
[11:00] <kmaynard> crap
[11:00] <kmaynard> !ubotu
[11:00] <zach634> pip: imba? wtf?
[11:00] <shy_> Vorbote: Ok. Please be patient with me. I'm a recent addition to the Linux world.
[11:01] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Does anyone know where/how I can disable screensaver and/or screen blanking?
[11:01] <godstand2> too fast for me
[11:01] <at0m> u could getjava from automatrix
[11:01] <Vorbote> shy_: that's why Ubuntu is called a distribution: All Linuces are Frankenstein monsters.
[11:01] <BHSPitMonkey> I have a problem... I've been trying to install edgy onto my friend's dell PC.  On the LiveCD, it boots up to a certain point (presumably, until when X starts) and then I just get a black screen; Unresponsive. Can't switch TTYs. Can't do ANYTHING.  Now, I installed with the Alternate CD, and it installs fine, but when I boot up the computer... same as with the LiveCD.
[11:01] <asraniel> hi, is there a way in edgy to go back to the open office version of dapper? the one in edgy crashes for me
[11:01] <shy_> Vorbote: Where do I get the driver? Is it pre-installed?
[11:01] <Vorbote> shy_: but coaming back to topic, by default the kernel loads the 8139cp driver, which doesn't work with your card.
[11:01] <LjL> Doow, i use apt-get. but then i also use kubuntu so no synaptic here. and yes, all in all it *is* easier to give commands that explain where to click (also considered that my short-term memory is sorely lacking)
[11:02] <maddoc> Hello. A quick question: after I upgraded from dapper to edgy, my computer does not lock itself when I close the screen. Any guesses on how to fix this?
[11:02] <Allz> hello in ubuntu .do i have to worry about viruses?
[11:02] <asraniel> Allz: no
[11:02] <BHSPitMonkey> I had a "black screen" issue in Dapper, but that was because his video card setup is weird. I could switch to TTY1 and fix the xorg.conf. Not so, anymore.
[11:02] <LjL> Allz: that's your decision. not many viruses in the wild around for linux though
[11:02] <shy_> Vorbote: you got the same card?
[11:02] <rmjb> hi, I see in my .bash_history it's supposed to set ~/bin in my PATH, and it does so if I log on to a virtual console, but not a gnome-terminal... anyone knows why?
[11:02] <Doow> I guess command-line is still going strong, good =)
[11:02] <Allz> ljl so there are viruses for linux to :S?
[11:03] <Doow> Allz, yeah
[11:03] <at0m> no viruses
[11:03] <Vorbote> shy_: Try adding 8139too to /etc/modules and reboot. (That's the easiest fix. The other requires fiddling a bit with modprobe config files. (I've seen a whole bunch of Realtek hardware in me life :-))
[11:03] <at0m> thata are in widl\
[11:03] <at0m> typing sucks form vnc
[11:03] <kmaynard> !factoids
[11:03] <zach634> Allz, yeah, type "sudo rm -rf /" to start up virus protection
[11:03] <Doow> at0m, ok, wouldn't know about that, only know they did some concept ones =)
[11:03] <BlackHawk> gn8
[11:03] <landan> dont do what zach634 said
[11:03] <BHSPitMonkey> !ops : zach634
[11:03] <zach634> :P
[11:04] <Doow> at0m, and of course the thingie where Linus patched the kernel so some virus would work =)
[11:04] <BHSPitMonkey> ok, guess I'm not the master of ubotu syntax.
[11:04] <at0m> they would all require root access anyway which is near impossible unless ur local or something
[11:04] <pip> should i install libdvdcss2 to watch dvds too?
[11:04] <rmjb> hi, I see in my .bash_history it's supposed to set ~/bin in my PATH, and it does so if I log on to a virtual console, but not a gnome-terminal... anyone knows why?
[11:04] <pip> it says something about blocking again :(
[11:04] <zach634> sorry, i read too much bash.org
[11:05] <Allz> xach634 what?
[11:05] <shy_> Vorbote: I downloaded a driver from Realtek that contains a file "8139too.c"  uncompiled C sourcecode. That wouldn't be it though, would it?
[11:05] <specialbuddy> is there a way to set it up so that everytime I plug in my portable hard drive with 3 partitions, the partitions will go to the same media folder everytime?
[11:05] <Allz> why should i trust you :S
[11:05] <zach634> Allz: "rm -rf /" would delete everything on your system
[11:05] <at0m> ud have to stab a fstab
[11:06] <Vorbote> shy_: that's already included in the kernel. Open a terminal window, type "locate 8139too" and read the output.
[11:06] <Allz> zach634 why do i want that
[11:06] <Allz> ?
[11:06] <Allz> omg :S
[11:06] <Allz> i just did it
[11:06] <zach634> Allz: it's a joke
[11:06] <BHSPitMonkey> zach634, technically it would delete everything you had permission to
[11:06] <BHSPitMonkey> which is your home folder.
[11:06] <Allz> zach634 please tell me what that command did?
[11:06] <InRage`Away> Were can I find ubuntu 7.04
[11:06] <schizoschaf> hi. how would i find out wether my cdrom is broken or misconfigured?
[11:06] <landan> Allz: i told yhou not to
[11:06] <zach634> Allz: i just did?
[11:07] <Allz> i did the command
[11:07] <Allz> :(
[11:07] <zach634> after we told you what it did..
[11:07] <at0m> schizoschaf: command sudo fdisk -l would show drives
[11:07] <Allz> bi
[11:07] <Allz> no
[11:07] <zach634> did you sudo it?
[11:07] <Allz> yyeah
[11:07] <Allz> :S
[11:07] <Allz> and the password
[11:07] <pip> can VLC play .img files in ubuntu?
[11:07] <shy_> Vorbote: that sounds easy enough.
[11:08] <Doow> btw, gnome does random sounds (sounds like notification for something) any way I can find out what they are about? it's kinda annoying and no program blinks or anything so I don't know what they are all about.
[11:08] <zach634> well now i feel bad
[11:08] <Allz> zach634 i am that much noob .i belive every thing .cause this is a help channel
[11:08] <Allz> :S
[11:08] <BHSPitMonkey> pip, yes... why did you ask that question?
[11:08] <Vorbote> shy_: The easiest fix is to add the module name to /etc/modules and reboot that'll force the kernel to load it.
[11:08] <pip> since i get error messages when im trying
[11:08] <landan> yeah zach634 i suggest leaving you knob
[11:08] <pip> should i install plugins or something to vlc?
[11:08] <zach634> :,(
[11:08] <Allz> zach634 what to do?
[11:08] <firebird619> When I enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm it says invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed. What can I do to solve this issue?
[11:09] <zach634> Allz: reinstall?
[11:09] <Allz> all the stuff
[11:09] <schizoschaf> at0m it does not mount no more... i guess it happened after burning a dvd.
[11:09] <pip> BHSPitMonkey: wanna tell me which plugins if i need to install any?
[11:09] <zach634> how long had you been using ubuntu before you realized this?
[11:09] <shy_> Vorbote: ok, I'll try that! it really did have me wondering that the card wasn't supported out of the box. this sort of explains it.
[11:09] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, although I really think this is some act, the answer to your question is, install ubuntu again.  Once you restart your computer, ... well, it won't be able to start again. Once you exit IRC, it won't start again. Etc
[11:09] <BHSPitMonkey> you've erased everything except for the contents of the RAM
[11:10] <Hate> anyone know how to install ubuntu(and boot from it) on external usb hdd?
[11:10] <Allz> DEMN you zach dude awwww!!!
[11:10] <zach634> :(
[11:10] <lullabud> Allz:  well, if you just did nuke your system, don't worry.  learning linux is about reinstalling, reinstalling, breaking, reinstalling, etc..
[11:10] <BHSPitMonkey> pip, none that I know; please redirect your pursuit to #VideoLAN, though, as it's much more appropriate (and functional) for answering your questions.
[11:10] <Allz> but i dotn have the disk
[11:10] <Allz> !!
[11:11] <Allz> i dont have the cd
[11:11] <pip> thanks
[11:11] <Allz> that i worked on
[11:11] <Hate> you can
[11:11] <Vorbote> shy_: the internal pci ids are very similar (if not identical). The kernel simply loads the drivers alphabetically...
[11:11] <Hate> order one
[11:11] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, can you even run Synaptic anymore
[11:11] <Hate> Allz, were do you live?
[11:11] <Allz> i am on console
[11:11] <BHSPitMonkey> Iceland
[11:11] <Hate> Nvm.
[11:11] <Allz> can i install thorugh consoel?
[11:11] <zach634> how did you install it witout the cd?
[11:12] <Allz> with cd
[11:12] <aktiwers> Im from Iceland! But live in Denmark ;)
[11:12] <Allz> and the cd is long gone
[11:12] <Hate> You can still order one from shipit.
[11:12] <zach634> download it again?
[11:12] <neobonzi> can someone instruct me how to install firmware for my wireless card?
[11:12] <lullabud> Allz:  it would take some serious linux-fu to recover from what you're on if you just nuked your system.
[11:12] <shy_> Vorbote: that definitely explains it. including why the card is so well recognized and only fails when it comes to well working :)
[11:12] <Allz> yeah thanks to zach he is very help ful
[11:12] <The_Machine> what's the easiest way to remotely access my linux machine?
[11:12] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, see if "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" works.
[11:13] <The_Machine> VNC in edgy is broken
[11:13] <lullabud> Allz:  where are you located?  most big cities would have a computer shop that would burn you a disc.
[11:13] <The_Machine> and i need to access my workstation from home tonight
[11:13] <The_Machine> little help?
[11:13] <Allz> i wish he will elarn from his mistake .to do not joke around with noobs
[11:13] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, if it does work, then you're okay.  If not...
[11:13] <Hate> www.tightvnc.com < believe they haev a linux version :)
[11:13] <blue-frog> The_Machine: ssh
[11:13] <specialbuddy> how would I write fstab to automount a portable harddrive
[11:13] <Vorbote> shy_: for a fast fix: "sudo rmmodcp 8139 && sudo modprobe 8139too"
[11:13] <hamdinp> Can I add folder at my desktop to apt repository (/etc/apt/sources.list) ?
[11:13] <BHSPitMonkey> The_Machine, actually, it works perfectly fine for me.
[11:13] <neobonzi> Anyone know how to install wireless firmware on ubuntu?
[11:13] <zach634> sorry Allz, i thought anyone using linux wasn't much of a noob
[11:13] <The_Machine> blue-frog: how do i enable that and does that give me GUI?
[11:13] <Frem> hello
[11:13] <alanhaggai> Hi friend :)
[11:13] <blue-frog> The_Machine: if u installed ssh-server of course prior to that...
[11:13] <LjL> hamdinp: uh?! no!
[11:14] <LjL> hamdinp: are you still trying to install p7zip?
[11:14] <Vorbote> shy_: s/rmmodcp 8139/rmmod 8139cp/ :-P
[11:14] <LjL> hamdinp: you haven't given me a valid reason yet why you should use that hand-downloaded package rather than the official one
[11:14] <Hate> The_Machine: go to http://www.tightvnc.com/
[11:14] <Discerer> ok I have my network card up and running through ndiswrapper, but it only rarely gets an IP from the DHCP server... ideas?
[11:14] <Hate> Its an alternative.
[11:14] <hamdinp> no  I 'm trying another package
[11:14] <LjL> hamdinp: which?
[11:14] <zach634> if apt-get still works, you could use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and that should do it for you
[11:14] <specialbuddy> how would I write fstab to automount a portable harddrive?
[11:15] <weepy> hi is there any kind of OSX style dock for ubuntu
[11:15] <hamdinp> lale is turkish - english dict
[11:15] <BHSPitMonkey> specialbuddy, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't
[11:15] <The_Machine> BHSPitMonkey: i'm experiencing this problem if you wouldn't mind helping me determine why it doesn't work..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79069&highlight=vnc+password
[11:15] <specialbuddy> why wouldn't I
[11:15] <The_Machine> it really sucks!
[11:15] <Hate> http://www.tightvnc.com/
[11:15] <shy_> Vorbote: I can guess what rmmodcp does. But what is modprobe for?
[11:16] <jonasan> hello all, please cna some one tell me how to mount a partion automatically on startup?
[11:16] <LjL> !info dict-freedict-tur-eng | what about this hamdinp?
[11:16] <The_Machine> checking it, Hate.
[11:16] <Vorbote> shy_: to load a driver and its dependencies into a running kernel
[11:16] <The_Machine> i already have that installed.
[11:16] <Hate> I have used the Win32 version fine, not sure how well linux handles(but i'm sure its the same)_
[11:16] <BHSPitMonkey> The_Machine, it works for me going from one edgy box to another.
[11:16] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, are you still with us
[11:16] <The_Machine> BHSPitMonkey:  oh..  i'm not going from edgy
[11:17] <The_Machine> it's weird, it asks me to authenticate
[11:17] <hamdinp> I installed it with /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <The_Machine> and rejects my password
[11:17] <Allz> yeah
[11:17] <LjL> hamdinp: well, the bot isn't working, but there is that package in Universe
[11:17] <Allz> i am still here
[11:17] <haxality> hello
[11:17] <alanhaggai> Hi friend :)
[11:17] <Allz> :(
[11:17] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, did the command work?
[11:17] <Hate> bad auth.
[11:17] <tim167> I cant move an item to another menu in Menu Layout tool, how come ?
[11:17] <LjL> hamdinp: you did what?
[11:17] <The_Machine> Hate - i'm trying to get TO my edgy ubuntu box
[11:17] <Allz> nope
[11:17] <Vorbote> shy_: btw, the linux lingo for driver is "kernel module"
[11:17] <BHSPitMonkey> The_Machine, sounds like the weak link is Windows ;)
[11:17] <The_Machine> VNC isn't working inbound
[11:17] <haxality> I have a question about a video driver problem I seem to be having
[11:17] <zach634> what did it say when you tried apt-get?
[11:17] <The_Machine> BHSP - no, it isn't..  it's just VNC..
[11:17] <The_Machine> there's a bug report on it
[11:17] <Allz> it just says the command sudo not ound
[11:17] <Allz> found
[11:17] <The_Machine> but i don't know how to clear it up
[11:17] <shy_> Vorbote: I'm really learning something! :)
[11:17] <LjL> Vorbote: since when?
[11:17] <Hate> Go windows =p
[11:18] <Allz> NO
[11:18] <Allz> never windows
[11:18] <Allz> YEAH!!!
[11:18] <Allz> I JSUT FOUND THE linux cd
[11:18] <The_Machine> in any case, any way i can get into my box without using VNC server (because of the bug?)
[11:18] <Allz> omg thanks you LORD
[11:18] <Allz> :)
[11:18] <BHSPitMonkey> The_Machine, let's see, Edgy + Edgy Works, Edgy + Windows not work... Windows sounds like the weak link!
[11:18] <The_Machine> something that's easy to implement
[11:18] <zach634> phew
[11:18] <The_Machine> BHSPitMonkey: vnc is a protocol.
[11:18] <Allz> ufff i was getting angry at you zach!
[11:18] <The_Machine> it isn't a program.
[11:18] <Hate> run a livecd of edgy :P
[11:18] <zach634> and i was feeling more and more guilty
[11:18] <blue-frog> The_Machine: ssh but u need to have installed the server first, otherwise you're out of your machine...
[11:18] <The_Machine> i should be able to authenticate regardless of what OS i'm using
[11:18] <Hate> ^ and test the theory
[11:19] <The_Machine> (question:  how do i install SSH server?)
[11:19] <Hate> lol
[11:19] <BHSPitMonkey> The_Machine, so I'm mistaken in my experience with VNC working from edgy to edgy?
[11:19] <at0m> the-machine google dapper wiki for the guide on everything.
[11:19] <shy_> Vorbote: and is s/rmmodcp 8139/rmmod 8139cp/ just shorthand or does it actually execute in the console? It doesn't look like a valid Unix command to me.
[11:19] <thevenin> The_Machine: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:19] <Hate> I know all about networking and small things like that, but I can't get my pc to boot from an external hdd... odd.
[11:19] <LjL> The_Machine: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[11:19] <BHSPitMonkey> VNC doesn't use SSH
[11:19] <blue-frog> The_Machine: you need to be in your machine... so dog's biting his its tail...
[11:19] <BHSPitMonkey> if it did, it wouldn't be so insecure
[11:19] <BHSPitMonkey> heh
[11:19] <firebird619> When I enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm it says invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed. What can I do to solve this issue?
[11:20] <hamdinp> I installed Lale with adding           deb http://www.sonsuzdongu.com/paketler/ ././    row to deb http://www.sonsuzdongu.com/paketler/ ././
[11:20] <The_Machine> Thanks LjL
[11:20] <The_Machine> i'm on my machine now
[11:20] <The_Machine> i won't be on it very soon
[11:20] <Vorbote> shy_: that's for substitution change the first for the second (vi search and replace parlance)
[11:20] <The_Machine> because i'm about to go home
[11:20] <BHSPitMonkey> ././ is redundant
[11:20] <blue-frog> The_Machine: then you're fine
[11:20] <The_Machine> so that's why i'm asking now - so i can get on it later when i get home
[11:20] <zach634> Allz: you all right now? can I stop ironing my hands?
[11:20] <The_Machine> ...no..  i'm..  not..  need to reach machine later when i'm at home..
[11:20] <at0m> is vnc easily brute force cracable?
[11:21] <The_Machine> at0m, not really.
[11:21] <The_Machine> there was a security hole
[11:21] <LjL> hamdinp: that is,  "http://www.sonsuzdongu.com/paketler/ ./"  ?
[11:21] <Allz> zach no i am  not allrighty
[11:21] <The_Machine> but it's been way patched.
[11:21] <BHSPitMonkey> zach634, well, any personal files he may have had are essentially gone ^^
[11:21] <Vorbote> shy_: (in reality, regexp parlance... basic regular expresion stuff :-))
[11:21] <blue-frog> The_Machine: you are as you can install ssh-server now...
[11:21] <Allz> after all work i have done
[11:21] <Allz> to my school work and much more
[11:21] <LjL> hamdinp: is that repository Ubuntu-specific?
[11:21] <zach634> The_Machine: is the machine at home linux or win
[11:21] <Allz> all just gonne
[11:21] <The_Machine> blue-frog - oh, yeah.  I"m doing that now!  :)
[11:21] <darkx> hui
[11:21] <hamdinp> I installed Lale with adding           deb http://www.sonsuzdongu.com/paketler/ ././    row to  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <The_Machine> zach - i've tried it from both.
[11:21] <Allz> do you think that is allrighty !:@
[11:21] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, it should be possible to recover the data, but not like magic.
[11:21] <darkx> hi.. i'd messup a some settings.. can somone help me
[11:21] <darkx> pls..
[11:21] <darkx> :D
[11:22] <zach634> The_machine: and your ports are forwarded properly?
[11:22] <The_Machine> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79069&highlight=vnc+password <---it's a bug in edgy
[11:22] <The_Machine> yea man
[11:22] <hamdinp> then  search lale and thats it
[11:22] <Allz> bhspitmonkey ?
[11:22] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, he's not free of blame, but you did pull the trigger... all he did was hand you the gun
[11:22] <The_Machine> i get prompted to enter password
[11:22] <LjL> hamdinp: ok, and the problem is? (though - answer my question, is that an ubuntu repository?)
[11:22] <The_Machine> it just doesn't accept it!
[11:22] <lullabud> ubotu tell darkx about ask
[11:22] <The_Machine> it isn't the client!
[11:22] <The_Machine> it's the server.
[11:22] <scip> hoi, does anyone know how to configure the 'mail' program to use a specific smtp server to send mail ?
[11:22] <The_Machine> the password "forgets" itself
[11:22] <The_Machine> i don't know why
[11:22] <The_Machine> heh
[11:22] <Allz> bhspitmonkey yeah but he shouldnt joke around like that
[11:22] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, is your CD the liveCD?
[11:22] <toey> Thanks in advanced to anyone that maybe able to help... I'm having some issues trying to get my on-board sound card (soundblaster live! 24-bit 7.1) running on my ubuntu edgy system. I'm running kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (x86_64) and alsa 1.0.12rc1. An lspci recognises my card as a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS (which is correct as per alsa doco) and it seems the correct kernel modules are running (snd_ca0106). I have done a heap of forum searching
[11:22] <toey>  and searching and tried 3 other live distro's  to no avail. And yes i have done the usual tweaking of alsamixer at the command line interface :) The i do play music through what ever application it seems as though i should be hearing some but noting comes out.
[11:22] <Allz> that is so a shame
[11:22] <hamdinp> LjL
[11:22] <blue-frog> The_Machine: the pc is behind a company firewall? if yes port 22 might be disabled so no connection..
[11:22] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, I tried to summon ops to get him kicked when he said it; I'm aware it was wrong
[11:22] <Allz> bhspitmonkey yeah i have the cd
[11:23] <darkx> i'd reconfigured xhost or x11 system and my sound dosen't work anymore :(
[11:23] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, but it's the LiveCD? That was my question.
[11:23] <The_Machine> installing ssh now.
[11:23] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, as in, when you boot it do you get a desktop, or a console
[11:23] <Zaehlas> OK, using etherial (Wireshark), very, very awesome program, but I don't think it's getting me the information I need.  Both netwrok interfaces are working great, but firestarter errors when setting up the DHCP server, or tries to share the internet connection.  Now, Firestarter help says that for my non-local connection, I should set that device to DHCP and leave it alone, but I'm on a static IP, I can't set it to DHCP.  is that causing p
[11:23] <LjL> Allz, BHSPitMonkey, what happened?
[11:23] <Allz> bhspitmonkey i have the cd that i installd on my computer with first
[11:23] <hamdinp> When I double click the  p7zip-full_4.43~dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
[11:23] <hamdinp> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[11:24] <BHSPitMonkey> LjL, right after you left, zach634 suggested that Allz do "rm -rf /", which he did using sudo.
[11:24] <Allz> bhspitmonkey i have not tryied to boot up
[11:24] <zach634> i may have accidentally told Allz "sudo rm -rf /"
[11:24] <The_Machine> blue-frog: ssh wasn't the problem.  it is VNC..
[11:24] <BHSPitMonkey> LjL, he's still on IRC via his ram.
[11:24] <The_Machine> i just didn't have ssh installed.  i wanted the GUI though..
[11:24] <The_Machine> ssh itself isn't good enough :)
[11:24] <The_Machine> heh
[11:24] <zach634> i was just joking around!
[11:24] <lullabud> LjL:  he's gotten quite a bit of flack for it already though...
[11:24] <LjL> hamdinp: yes, because THAT IS NOT an Ubuntu package. use the official Ubuntu package. just type "sudo apt-get install p7zip-full" after enabling Universe
[11:24] <darkx> pls can somone help me realy short with a very little problem!
[11:24] <zach634> i meant no harm!
[11:24] <LjL> hamdinp: and this is the foruth time i tell you
[11:24] <The_Machine> cause once i'm in i need to be doing some other Term Serv stuff, etc.
[11:25] <The_Machine> (with 1000 users in a channel, it's kind of hard to keep the conversation straight...)
[11:25] <Allz> bhspitmonkey do you think i can cover all the stuff by reinstalling ubuntu
[11:25] <The_Machine> heh, ubuntu has joined.
[11:25] <Allz> :z
[11:25] <BHSPitMonkey> zach634, usually something like that will earn you a (temporary?) ban... it might still, who knows.
[11:25] <BHSPitMonkey> be prepared; you DO deserve it
[11:25] <zach634> i probably deserve it
[11:25] <BHSPitMonkey> they should really G-line the nick 'ubuntu'.
[11:26] <at0m> ud think it would be registered
[11:26] <BHSPitMonkey> surely it is.
[11:26] <Itcharlie> hi all
[11:26] <BHSPitMonkey> ubuntu: " Registered: 1 year 3 weeks 6 days (17h 13m 48s) ago"
[11:26] <at0m> hi!
[11:26] <Itcharlie> question what is oem all about
[11:26] <darkx> can someone tell me how what comand i used to mess up my sound pls.. i just need the name..
[11:26] <darkx> pls...
[11:26] <LjL> zach634, i think you saw what your "joke" resulted in. it goes by itself that if i see anything like this again, it's a ban.
[11:26] <zach634> :(
[11:26] <Discerer> how can I make my wlan0 try to update IP?
[11:27] <neobonzi> can someone help me with some driver troubles?
[11:27] <at0m> ifconfig ?
[11:27] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, you DON'T want to re-install right away. Boot your system up to the LiveCD, and then get back onto IRC, okay? You can install programs while you're booted to the CD. (It's just a tad slower ;)
[11:27] <zach634> think Allz can run apt-get off the liveCD to get ubuntu-desktop back?
[11:28] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, it is the nick of anyone on the live cd ...
[11:28] <toey> anyone?
[11:28] <BHSPitMonkey> ompaul, that's a defect. and plus, who cares?
[11:28] <Zaehlas> Any suggestions on why when I have two functional network interfaces, with no communication problems with either, that Firestarter gives me "unknown error" and won't share internet connection, or start the DHCP service?
[11:28] <neobonzi> Can anyone help me find out why ubuntu wont recognize my wireless card as installed?
[11:28] <Allz> ljl i asked what this command do ? and zach634 sayid it will remove all the stuff on your computer and after typing this .he says it's a joke ,.!so i though he was joking about this command would remove my programs!!
[11:28] <Allz> :(
[11:28] <at0m> u can sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, well if you think it is a defect then I suggest you report it as a bug
[11:28] <Frem> I'm having trouble with Java. All my programs for this course I'm taking ran fine when I ran them from a Windows IDE, but they throw errors when I try to use them in Linux.
[11:28] <thevenin> Zaehlas: are both cables plugged into the same router/hub
[11:29] <Zaehlas> No, one is to external connectrion, one is to internal modem
[11:29] <zach634> so you ran it after I said it would delete all your stuff?
[11:29] <thevenin> oh ok
[11:29] <Itcharlie> hi
[11:29] <Itcharlie> What is OEM installation all about
[11:29] <neobonzi> Can anyone help me find out why ubuntu wont recognize my wireless card as installed?
[11:29] <BHSPitMonkey> ompaul, if I was to report any bugs, they would be the serious ones that are damaging my hardware every night... I just can't get any specific data about them...
[11:30] <LjL> Discerer: perhaps "dhclient wlan0"
[11:30] <Belboz99> hey all, I'm having some issues compiling a custom kernel.  The first error is:
[11:30] <Belboz99> scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:31:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory
[11:30] <Belboz99> Any ideas?
[11:30] <scip> Frem: java is often only cross platform if the designer has made them cross-platform.
[11:30] <zntneo> neobonzi: what card is it?
[11:30] <Allz> so zach634 i forgive you :)
[11:30] <Discerer> thanks LjL
[11:30] <LjL> Allz, what did you lose in the end?
[11:30] <Doow> Frem, what errors?
[11:30] <LjL> Allz: if you lost important files, you should probably shut down your machine right now, before the data is overwritten
[11:30] <zach634> thank you allz
[11:30] <zntneo> Was anyone in here when i was complaning about my card not working?
[11:30] <Zaehlas> I have verified that I get DHCP request packets on my internal network, from all devices attached, but no response, as Firestarter is erroring
[11:30] <Frem> scip: I'm doing really, really basic stuff.
[11:30] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, do what I said with the Live CD>
[11:30] <neobonzi> zntneo, its a 3945 ABG
[11:30] <Zaehlas> thevenin: and sorry, I should be saying who I'm responding to, hehe
[11:30] <Frem> Doow: I've got it here http://pastebin.com/825292
[11:30] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, and report back here
[11:30] <thevenin> lol it is ok
[11:30] <zntneo> are you using ndiswrapper
[11:30] <Allz> ljl i have lost every thing that i wanted to keep :S
[11:30] <shy_> Vorbote: So, basically, you've told me three different ways to solve the problem: 1. adding 8139too to /etc/modules and reboot. 2. doing "sudo rmmodcp 8139 && sudo modprobe 8139too". and 3. doing "s/rmmodcp 8139/rmmod 8139cp/"?
[11:31] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, you won't lose it if you do as we tell you to now.
[11:31] <zntneo> LjL: my wireless is working !
[11:31] <LjL> Allz: well it must be said that you should never blindly type commands without knowing what they do. "man <command>" gives you a page of information about any command - use that
[11:31] <Allz> bhspitmonkey first of all what is a live cd?
[11:31] <neobonzi> zntneo, im not using ndiswrapper, im using the linux driver
[11:31] <Allz> is live cd the cd i used to install ubuntu?
[11:31] <thevenin> Zaehlas: i dont really know what to tell you never experienced firestarter first hand, sorry
[11:31] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, it's the ubuntu cd you (probably?) have.
[11:31] <LjL> Allz: the Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "live" CD. boot from that
[11:31] <zntneo> neobonzi: what does it do?
[11:31] <thevenin> maybe just check all of you setting in the firestarter conf
[11:31] <Frem> Doow: All the lines mention ClassLoader multiple times... is some path broken or something?
[11:31] <LjL> Allz: unless you used the Alternate CD, yes
[11:31] <Allz> should i boot
[11:31] <Allz> ?
[11:31] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, when you boot the CD, and you see an ubuntu desktop... that's all the liveCD.
[11:31] <Allz> reboot
[11:31] <Allz> ?
[11:31] <zntneo> Do you have an ip address?
[11:31] <neobonzi> zntneo what does what do?
[11:31] <shy_> Vorbote: Sorry, tomorrow when I'll be trying to execute what you've told me, I won't have an internet connection around to ask you again  :)
[11:31] <LjL> Allz: yes, reboot into the live CD
[11:32] <Vorbote> shy_: only two and they are complementary
[11:32] <BHSPitMonkey> Allz, boot to the CD, and then get on CD. do not install ubuntu, yet.
[11:32] <Allz> ok
[11:32] <Allz> cya then
[11:32] <BHSPitMonkey> uhh
[11:32] <BHSPitMonkey> I meant IRC
[11:32] <Allz> k
[11:32] <Zaehlas> thevenin: no worries, someone will happen along soon enough, and I'll find out what's wrong.   Maybe I never installed the DHCP service properly?   or do I need to start it separately?
[11:32] <Allz> i will be at another computer
[11:32] <Doow> Frem, I don't really know, looking atm (I'm no java guru though, so don't get your hopes up =(
[11:32] <zach634> Good luck allz!
[11:32] <BHSPitMonkey> ah, k then
[11:32] <zntneo> woops sorry how is it not working is it getting an ip address? Are you able to connect to an AP?
[11:32] <Vorbote> shy_: be advised that the commmand as I wrote it first is wrong (that's why I added the substitution bit).
[11:32] <zach634> i feel like such an ass
[11:32] <thevenin> you may need to start it seperatley, not 100% on that
[11:33] <neobonzi> zntneo, no i installed the driver for it but when i check if its running it says my wireless card doesnt exist
[11:33] <Frem> Doow: ok, thanks. One possability is that Java is yet another thing that got messed up when I upgraded to Eft, but things like limewirk work fine, so i dunno.
[11:33] <LjL> zach634, well, you just learned that people *can* take things literally.
[11:33] <Vorbote> shy_: Sooo... To fix the problem permanently, edit /etc/modules and add 8139too to the list.
[11:33] <cmatheson> my swap isn't enabled anymore for some reason.. if i type 'swapon -a' i get the error: "swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/c9631828-2a4a-4eac-af74-ce9773864713: Invalid argument'  why is that?
[11:34] <truk77> okay,  so when I tried to install the ubuntu liveCD (6.10) onto my Inspiron 1501, it couldn't find the hard disk to partition.  Am I lacking some kind of SATA support?
[11:34] <firebird619> When I enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm it says invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed. Can anyone help me?
[11:34] <Vorbote> shy_: To enable the correct module in the running kernel, use "sudo rmmod 8139cp && modprobe 8139too"
[11:34] <UKMatt> are there any widget equivalents to OSX's?  Like... not gdesklets but something that you can bring up and hide
[11:34] <shy_> Vorbote: ah, so /etc/modules is a file. and what I have to do is add the path to 8139too, which I located.
[11:35] <Doow> frem, google gave me this: "The class you are trying to load has been compiled for JDK 1.4 while you are running an older VM"
[11:35] <Vorbote> shy_: only the name. That's used by the kernel to determine modules to force-load at boot time
[11:35] <Doow> Frem, did you compile it under linux, or just tried to load the .class files that you compiled under windows?
[11:35] <shy_> Vorbote: ok. I'll go for the permanent fix right away and skip the runtime addition.
[11:35] <UKMatt> doow, it shouldnt matter where you compile
[11:35] <Frem> Doow: Well, I ran javac on it, but the old class was still in the directory
[11:36] <Subhuman> hi, has anyone noticed that edgy has issues with GTK 1 apps and custom themes?
[11:36] <Doow> UKMatt, it could matter if it's different versions of java
[11:36] <Frem> Doow: I just deleted it and recompiled, but same errors.
[11:36] <Doow> frem ok
[11:36] <UKMatt> doow, I don't think it would, once its a .class it wouldn't matter
[11:37] <shy_> Vorbote: Thanks a lot, for the help (and the patience)! Tomorrow I'll take a transcript of this chat and I'm confident I'll get it working. A big Thanks!
[11:37] <mcquaid> anyone using beryl but not actually getting the window borders on applications?
[11:37] <mcquaid> I think I read about this in the forums but can't find it now
[11:38] <Vorbote> shy_: good luck!!!!
[11:38] <pip> so ive done everything to play dvds now i think and it wont work with totem, it said it doesnt recognice .img files
[11:38] <hamdinp> sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[11:38] <hamdinp> Reading package lists... Done
[11:38] <hamdinp> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:38] <hamdinp> E: Couldn't find package p7zip-full
[11:38] <hamdinp> Ljl
[11:38] <hamdinp> LjL
[11:38] <pip> neither does vlc
[11:38] <Vorbote> shy_: after editing /etc/modules don't forget to reboot.
[11:38] <LjL> hamdinp, yes, as you have to *enable universe* first
[11:38] <LjL> !universe | hamdinp
[11:39] <LjL> ah nevermind the bot
[11:39] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[11:39] <shy_> Vorbote: I won't. Thanx!!! ;)
[11:39] <pip> hi2u
[11:39] <tuxtheslacker> can someone help me out with some options for webcam chatting software in linux?
[11:39] <tuxtheslacker> aside from ekiga?
[11:40] <LjL> hamdinp: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[11:40] <LjL> hamdinp: there is also source-o-matic at http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:41] <LjL> hamdinp: the short answer is, you enable universe by adding "universe" after "main" and "restricted" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (on the "edgy", "edgy-updates" and "edgy-security" lines). but you better read the guide
[11:41] <Zambezi> Isn't there a textbased FTP-client with support for SSL?
[11:41] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[11:41] <weepy> hi - what might the 'login manager' be ?
[11:41] <keescook> Zambezi: lftp works pretty well for SSL
[11:41] <Doow> Frem, weird, everything I find seems to indicate that it's a problem with the files being built for a later version than the JVM is, but since you compiled it with the same system that you try to run it that seems weird
[11:41] <LjL> weepy: perhaps it means the Display Manager - GDM on Ubuntu
[11:42] <zntneo> ok question how do i get network-manager to work on ubuntu after installing it?
[11:42] <zntneo> or is there a wiki
[11:42] <weepy> thanks LjL - where would i find that?
[11:42] <LjL> weepy: dpkg -L gdm
[11:42] <Discerer> whats the problem with it zntneo?
[11:42] <LjL> weepy: what is the problem anyway?
[11:42] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know of some video chatting software aside from ekiga?
[11:42] <zntneo> Its not coming up
[11:42] <Discerer> nothing happening at all? error messages?
[11:42] <weepy> LjL - im following the instructions for installing ATI beryl
[11:42] <zntneo> nevermind i geuss it is
[11:42] <Discerer> try calling it with sudo network-manager
[11:43] <zntneo> but its not seeing my wireless card
[11:43] <weepy> is was stuck on the line 'In the login manager you can now choose a session named Xgl '
[11:43] <Zambezi> keescook, Are you sure? Have you used yourself?
[11:43] <ithicine> tuxtheslacker: aMSN has some webcam support for MSN chatting
[11:43] <Khaled> Hey all just upgraded to edgy, had a bit of issue with xorg it would seem, with a little help from the ubuntu forums peeps (from recovery mode, I put this command in: dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg). Problem is now whenever I scroll in any programme I get this really funny thing happening with sections repeating and scrolling not working, anyone experience the same problem?
[11:43] <Frem> Doow: maybe I have an older java VM installed then the JDK?
[11:43] <keescook> Zambezi: a while back, yeah
[11:43] <tuxtheslacker> ithicine, thanks
[11:43] <Doow> frem could be
[11:43] <Zambezi> keescook, Do I need some more packages to have support for SSL?
[11:43] <LjL> weepy: yes i think it means the display manager. at your login screen, look at the "Options" button on the bottom left
[11:44] <weepy> aah thanks!! ill give it a go
[11:44] <zntneo> any clue how to get network manager to see my wiresless card?
[11:45] <Doow> Frem,  1.4.2 seems to be the default VM
[11:45] <e319> does ubuntu use the newest kernel version? i am having issues with my sata/mobo support :/
[11:45] <Doow> Frem, java --version =)
[11:46] <LjL> e319: no it doesn't
[11:46] <Frem> Doow: That's what I've got installed.
[11:46] <Doow> Frem, hmm.. really no idea then =(
[11:46] <Frem> oooooh
[11:46] <Frem> javac is at 1.5, somehow
[11:46] <keescook> Zambezi: I'm not sure.  :(  do you need SSL or TLS?  TLS used to get autonegotiated for me when I used lftp
[11:46] <Doow> Frem, haha
[11:46] <zach634> yay! Allz has survived!
[11:46] <Frem> thanks, Doow  :-)
[11:47] <e319> LjL: is is possible to get an iso of ubuntu with the newest kernel?
[11:47] <Doow> Frem, np =)
[11:47] <LjL> e319: no
[11:47] <Allz> hello i am on windows now .i remeber i used kubuntu cd to install ubuntu :S
[11:47] <zntneo> so no one knows how to make network-manager see my wireless card?
[11:47] <Zaehlas> OK, played around, and I think I've fixed my problem.  Anyway, if anyone else is going to use Firestarter and share out an internet connection, using DHCP, make sure to install the DHCP version 3 package, not the base version.  Gah, I wish that was in the Firestarter help files.
[11:47] <Allz> does it make difrence?
[11:47] <Allz> kubuntu or ubuntu
[11:47] <zach634> Allz that will still work
[11:47] <e319> LjL: how would i go about learning to insert the newest up to data kernel into my iso?
[11:47] <LjL> Allz, no, just boot from it
[11:47] <Allz> okei just boot from it then what?
[11:48] <zach634> if you want to switch to ubuntu, you cau do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, or kubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <LjL> e319: i'd give you a pointer if the bot weren't acting up
[11:48] <LjL> e319: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:48] <GigaClon> can anyone help me with firefox, it keeps jumping to the top of the page when i select a hyperlink
[11:48] <Belboz99> hey, just to clarify, if I want 64-bit support in my kernel I should select the "Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8" processor family in make menuconfig?
[11:48] <LjL> i doubt you can easily put your kernel *into an ISO* though e319
[11:48] <cafuego> No
[11:48] <Zambezi> keescook, I don't even know the difference. I just want the best.
[11:48] <Belboz99> I have a Core 2 Duo btw
[11:48] <cafuego> You need to build a kernel on an already-64bit system with a 64bit compiler.
[11:49] <LjL> Allz: then we see what can be rescued
[11:49] <bimberi> e319: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:49] <e319> LjL: so best method of getting ubuntu to install on newer unsupported (in the current kernel build issued with ubuntu) hardware?
[11:49] <bimberi> LjL: what's the url for ubotu factoids?
[11:49] <GigaClon> !factoids
[11:49] <cafuego> !chickengiblets
[11:49] <GigaClon> !factoid
[11:49] <LjL> stop playing
[11:49] <_EvGen_B> Hi all!!!
[11:50] <tuxtheslacker> hey, in amsn, how do I see my webcam to test if it's working?
[11:50] <cafuego> did he die again?
[11:50] <bimberi> yep, hence my Q
[11:50] <LjL> http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi bimberi
[11:50] <Doow> ubotu isn't replying to my whispers, I think he's in hangupmode or something
[11:50] <bimberi> LjL: cheers :)
[11:50] <cafuego> LjL: trying to make it spit outs its url :-P
[11:50] <lightup> what do I do if package installer tells me a dependency is not satisfiable?  I can't find the library in Synaptic.
[11:50] <tuxtheslacker> ithicine, are you there? if so, can you tell me how to check if amsn accepts my webcam?
[11:50] <ithicine> tuxtheslacker: sort of here... busy atm
[11:50] <_EvGen_B> Who speks russian?
[11:50] <ithicine> one sec
[11:51] <e319> so any ideas how to get ubuntu to support my newer hardware?
[11:51] <tuxtheslacker> ithicine, when you get back, how can I tell if my webcam is working with AMSN?
[11:51] <LjL> !ru | _EvGen_B
[11:51] <LjL> *sigh*
[11:51] <LjL> it comes automatic. _EvGen_B, there is #ubuntu-ru

[11:51] <Doow> who runs ubotu anyway?
[11:52] <bimberi> habits hard to break ;)
[11:52] <bimberi> Doow: Seveas
[11:52] <_EvGen_B> LjL: thanks
[11:52] <LjL> _EvGen_B, by the way, could you do me a favor and type this in cyrillic characters please? "Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke."
[11:52] <slavi1> LjL: my russian is not good enough for you?
[11:52] <ithicine> tuxtheslacker: your webcam just needs to be supported by v4l, I believe... video4linux.  Do you already have your camera set up?
[11:53] <slavi1>
[11:53] <LjL> this is a test?
[11:53] <slavi1> :D
[11:53] <tuxtheslacker> ithicine, yep how do  Icheck it though?
[11:53] <LjL> well i don't care who does it, i've just been trying to get that factoid in cyrillic chars for like 2 months, unsuccesfully :P
[11:54] <srf21c> Hey anyone here know how to set the wallpaper in xubuntu xfce from the command line?
[11:54] <srf21c> I'm trying to get www.webilder.org running on a xubuntu 6.06 box, and there's no program option for setting xfce wallpaper.  But there is an option to run a command that sets the wallpaper.
[11:54] <ithicine> hrm... checking it, I don't quite remember.  I'm not in Linux as the moment as I'm playing EVE Online.  I think there's a configuration thing *somewhere*, but it's been ages since I used it
[11:55] <e319> LjL: any ideas?
[11:55] <ithicine> just a min, I'll be able to take a look around online in a minute
[11:55] <slavi1> LjL: how did you translate that though?
[11:55] <LjL> e319, except for the URL i gave you, no...
[11:55] <majestyelias> hello.i just installed xmms and i cant read what it says when i left click for the menu.any suggestions to fix it?
[11:56] <LjL> slavi1, i didn't. i just guessed, i don't know what "eto" means, but it sounds like a form of the verb to be, and "test" wasn't very hard to... guess :)
[11:56] <mikul> anyone who knows how to start mplayer with my second soundcard instead of my default soundcard?
[11:56] <w30> srf21c, try man xset
[11:56] <Allz> ljl so i get a menu when i boot from the cd .what to do ?
[11:56] <LjL> Allz: first option, "start or install"
[11:56] <Allz> aha
[11:57] <Allz> should i klikk on start or insttal?
[11:57] <Allz> install
[11:57] <LjL> click? no, you don't even have a mouse pointer i think
[11:57] <LjL> just hit whatever key it is - Enter, or F1, or whatever it is
[11:57] <ithicine> tuxtheslacker: I think you just might have to get a contact on your MSN list to accept video
[11:57] <slavi1> LjL: nice
[11:57] <e319> ok sowhat nix distro has the mosat up to date kernel then?
[11:57] <slavi1> LjL:    :D
[11:58] <slavi1> guess that :D
[11:58] <numist> :o
[11:58] <Allz> i cant use up and down arrows ljl
[11:58] <|thunder> how can ubuntu upgrade a package thats running ?
[11:58] <srf21c> thanks w30!
[11:58] <ithicine> tuxtheslacker: if they see you, great... and if not, there's more troubleshooting to be done
[11:58] <|thunder> mikul; look in "man mplayer"
[11:58] <zach634> Allz: is this ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:59] <Flannel> |thunder: which package?
[11:59] <Limulf>  I want Ubuntu (6.10) to start without opening any windows from its previous use, so I have: 1)checked save session changes automatically in the session manager window; 2)closed all windows; 3)restarted Ubuntu; 4)unchecked the save session changes automatically option. My problem is that after restarting again two windows appear, and I don't know how to prevent it: the session manager and a Nautilus window showing my home directory.
[11:59] <Limulf> I have tried to remove the gnome-session-properties from the current session tab in the session manager window,  but after closing and opening again the session manager, the gnome-session-properties program is again there. This is hardly an annoyance, but I would like to know the solution anyway. Thanks for your time and work.
[11:59] <Antrixx_> |thunder: A running program is copied to memory and so the actual executable binary can be replaced safely as it is not in use. Generally.
[11:59] <dcordes> thunder: just close the process and upgrade. where is the point?
[11:59] <ithicine> tuxtheslacker: after finishing this mission in EVE, I can quit that and help out a touch more if needed.  Burning an Edgy disc then :)
[11:59] <mikul> |thunder, its quite big u know :S
[11:59] <|thunder> sweert
[11:59] <|thunder> was just curious
[11:59] <superkirbyartist> Hello.  How do you permanently set the keyboard to canadian french?
[11:59] <pip> LjL: i LOVE you :D
[12:00] <|thunder> i upgrade beryl all the time, just curious how it happens while its running
[12:00] <Flannel> |thunder: the upgrades won't happen until that particular program is restarted, although some programs can do an upgrade without shutting down
[12:00] <rickympl> hi everyone
[12:00] <GigaClon> can anyone help me with firefox, it keeps jumping to the top of the page when i select a hyperlink
[12:00] <|thunder> Flannel; ya, thanks, I always restart after the upgrade, rather than shut it down prior
[12:01] <sjbrown> GigaClon, what page?