[00:27] <JoeLlama> Welp, it finally happened.  I'm learning everything I NEVER wanted to know about ubuntu.
[00:27] <JoeLlama> I need to copy home directory offf a drive but I cannot do that while mounted.
[00:28] <JoeLlama> how can I copy home off the drive while using that drive for the OS boot?
[00:30] <JoeLlama> o k then I'll be idle but here
[00:37] <JoeLlama> so... tried from live image to do fsck that didn't work...  tried to copy the directory and it just wouldn't... just need to copy the home directory off a drive... whats the trick...  don't make me google please :)
[00:38] <JoeLlama> eh I found it never mind
[01:01] <joebobjoe> what package is the development package?
[01:02] <joebobjoe> build-essential thanks
[01:58] <kernikel> I have a question about installing Ubuntu on an external usb drive on a system with EFI SecureBoot. I followed the steps outlined in this guide: https://www.fosslinux.com/10212/how-to-install-a-complete-ubuntu-on-a-usb-flash-drive.htm , including the selection of the external drive for boot loader installation. My system is dual boot (the internal
[01:58] <kernikel> hdd has an Ubuntu and Windows10 and it boots to GRUB). As you can guess, trying to install Ubuntu on the external drive broke my internal GRUB installation, and I am left wondering why. If I start up my computer without the usb plugged in it boots to the GRUB command line, and I can’t do anything intuitive from there (if I type ‘normal’,
[01:58] <kernikel> nothing happens). If I turn it off and plug the usb in, then turn it on, I get the same behavior. If I turn it off again, I leave the usb plugged in, I start it up, then I open the BIOS startup menu (which at this point only shows two entries, one for windows10 and one for my internal Ubuntu installation) and leave it without changing the boot
[01:58] <kernikel> order, then the regular GRUB selection appears and I can choose to startup the Ubuntu on the USB (default option), the original Ubuntu or Windows10.
[02:01] <kernikel> I have many questions about this: why would my internal boot loader be affected? What difference would it make to simply open the BIOS boot menu? Why isn’t the external Ubuntu installation showing up on the BIOS boot menu? And finally, how can I achieve what I wanted, ie a portable Ubuntu installation on a USB pen drive?
[02:04] <kernikel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing From this, I am trying to select the new Ubuntu partition (not the drive containing it) for the boot loader installation. I’ll know if it works when it finishes.
[02:05] <kernikel> Well, it didn’t (I’ll cry).
[04:01] <user01> hi i have a 2GB flash drive available and trying to install ubuntu studio . . . is there a netinstall minimal image i could download?
[04:02] <user01> or do i have to order a 4gb flash drive?
[04:19] <leaftype> user01: I don't think there is a straight "net install" version
[04:20] <leaftype> but there is something popping up in apt
[04:21] <leaftype> you might be able to do a ubuntu-core or something and then apt install ubuntustudio-desktop
[04:43] <user01> ubuntu core is 2.7 GB
[05:28] <guiverc> user01, you haven't said what release, but I believe Lubuntu is the only release/ISO that fits on 2GB for groovy/20.10
[05:40] <silv3r_m00n1> hi there
[05:40] <silv3r_m00n1> this sleep feature in kubuntu, does it suspend to ram or suspend to disk ?
[05:46] <guiverc> silv3r_m00n1, sleep is a suspend usually, hibernate writes to disk & turns off
[05:47] <silv3r_m00n1> guiverc: great thanks
[06:24] <Rumen> hi there
[06:25] <Rumen> I got problem with the monitor/resolution  after the last update
[06:26] <Rumen> after every reboot or wake from hybernation start working with 1600x900 instead of 1920x1080
[06:26] <Rumen> I try to change it with xrandr but I got error
[06:27] <Rumen> this is the output https://pastebin.com/2NBmdhDj
[06:27] <Rumen> anyone can help?
[06:29] <Rumen> here is my xorg.conf generated by my Nvidia Quadro 4000 https://pastebin.com/LVb48hxj
[06:31] <Rumen> in the settings the normal resolution missing which is 1920x1080 for my screen
[07:24] <tomreyn> Rumen: "the last update" to what?
[07:25] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release
[07:30] <tomreyn> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/170134/en-us does not list "Quadro 4000" as supported
[07:33] <tomreyn> quadro 4000 is a legacy gpu https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/legacy-gpu/
[07:42] <tomreyn> Rumen: the problem with the xrandr request seems to be about the mode name "1920x1080_60.00" - try something simpler, alphanumeric only
[08:57] <Nav|C> is it safe to uninstall intel-microcode? both cpu and gpu is amd
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> Nav|C: i think its not installed by default, but adviced in software&updates as a driver/add
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !info intel-microcode
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> extra^
[08:59] <Nav|C> nvm, I tried and it is yet another package that if you try to uninstall, *will* uninstall your whole system
[10:01] <Ahoj12334> Hello, im newbie, is there anyone willing to help me update bios on my Lenovo? Received lot of ACPI errors and i read update bios should solve it. Problem is, fwupdate syntax and process is very hard for me and I dont understand it :-(
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: some lenovo models would suggest fiirmware updates via software center, did you check that already?
[10:04] <Ahoj12334> I already did full update via software center but didnt help. Also problem I think is my model has support for windows only, so on lenovo are windoes executables only
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | Ahoj12334
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: your dmesg will also show current bios/firmware version
[10:06] <Ahoj12334> need UEFI  function (idk what is that) and based on my friend only possibility is to update bios. lotuspsychje bash: !biosupdate: event not found
[10:06] <Ahoj12334> .   Ubottu, will try, but already tried couple things and I feel i need someone more skilled with linux
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: sgare your dmesg in a pastebin, volunteers might able to more specific pinpoint your bios version
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> share
[10:09] <Ahoj12334> need to learn how to use dmesg first :-(  I think its some kind of log and I need to serch for biosupdate or?
[10:09] <Ahoj12334> I told you, completly newbie, sry
[10:10] <Ahoj12334> ah, I was able to make pastebin :-)   https://pastebin.com/Ws3QSyuX
[10:15] <Ahoj12334> or at least advise how to skip ACPI errors, I found some manual to push left shift during boot and add acpi=off to group - i Did that but it didnt work, boots still show error and takes lot of time
[10:19] <tomreyn> Ahoj12334: your currnet bios:   DMI: LENOVO 80T3/, BIOS 2WCN29WW 07/12/2017
[10:21] <tomreyn> bios update https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-v-series-laptops/v310-15ikb/80t3/downloads/ds118614-bios-update-for-windows-10-64-bit-notebook
[10:23] <Ahoj12334> yes, I know, both I found, but its windows executable. Windows not possible to install due to bluescreen and problem with uefi (would like to solve) So I tried some ways but failed with fwupdate
[10:26] <tomreyn> sometimes you can just place the update on a fat formatted file system on the first partition of a usb stick and then use the embedded updater of your live bios to install it
[10:28] <Ahoj12334> do you think you can help me step by step? This I didnt find anywhere on the internet, only manuals were to use fwupdate. Dont have any idea how to put the exe file on first partition - or can I just format my usb to FAT, paste *.exe to this and reboot and choose first device usb?
[10:30] <tomreyn> the steps to prepare the stick , as you phrase them, could work. but you don't boot off it, but rather keep the stick connected, enter bios, look for a bios update option, point it to the stick, install the update
[10:30] <Ahoj12334> btw read the bios update manual you sent - all ways there mentioned not aplicable - Lenove doesnt have boot CD for my model, I dont have windows and ThinkVantage system seems unsupported
[10:30] <tomreyn> that's IF your system support that
[10:31] <Ahoj12334> ok, I will try with the USB, thank you for now
[10:31] <tomreyn> note this: "If your BIOS version is lower than 2WCN42WW, please update to 2WCN42WW firstly."
[10:31] <tomreyn> vendor recommends a multi-step upgrade
[10:31] <tomreyn> none of this has anything to do with ubuntu, though
[10:32] <tomreyn> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/DS542924 is 2WCN42WW
[10:33] <Ahoj12334> thx, will try 2WCN42WW first
[10:46] <avernos> dhclient[518]: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to <IP_ADDRESS>  why is dhclient trying for <IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:48] <tomreyn> because that's how broadcasting works
[10:49] <avernos> but its wrong, its not getting an IP because of it
[10:49] <avernos> dhclient[518]: No DHCPOFFERS received.
[10:50] <avernos> wlan0: Association request to the driver failed
[10:54] <tomreyn> your dhcp client yelled into your lan "hey, anyone here runs a dhcp server and can help me get setup?", as it should, and then there was silence.
[10:55] <tomreyn> or your client didn't see any reply it knew how to work with
[10:56] <avernos> there is dhcp. so its the second option
[10:56] <tomreyn> or maybe dhcp is present, but on a different network?
[10:56] <avernos> however, i have a hotspot, a dhcp server on same machine. that is working fine
[10:56] <avernos> dhcp is present, got several clients getting ip just fine
[10:58] <avernos> there is nothing at <IP_ADDRESS>, should be something else. its looking there for some reason i cant find
[10:58] <avernos> me thinks something broken with the driver
[10:58] <avernos> can the driver be loaded by 2 different interface?
[11:04] <tomreyn> <IP_ADDRESS> is a special notation for "everyone". provide more context, starting with your ubuntu release and a description of your setup, and what you are doing, and why. maybe then someone will be able to help.
[11:07] <avernos> ubuntu release 19.10. i have a wireless hostap and a wireless STA. hostapd is a subnet with dhcpd. wireless STA connects to a default network. like a hotspot so clients can connect to
[11:13] <V|A> helo
[11:13] <V|A> so im on ubuntu using xfce and id like a 2nd panel/taskbar for the 2nd monitor
[11:14] <V|A> ah interesting could create a 2nd panel in the preferences :>
[11:15] <V|A> hmm well that worked but its the same on each monitor same crap microsoft did
[11:42] <kelalaka> selam
[12:05] <supremekai> Hey guys, I have a VPS in VULTR with Ubuntu 20.04 and 2GB of RAM. What would be the best size of the swap memory? I've seen this table here and seems that 1GB of RAM and 2GB of RAM both use 1GB of swap: https://prnt.sc/10rko11
[12:06] <supremekai> What does "No Hibernation" and "With Hibernation" means?
[12:07] <Maik> supremekai: please don't cross post
[12:09] <supremekai> Maik, sorry I found the server-related channel in the /list and as this is a VPS I posted over there
[12:11] <jiggawattz> Don't run swap on a VPS
[12:11] <Maik> supremekai: the server channel is meant for support with ubuntu server. Not VPS
[12:11] <jiggawattz> Not sure if Vultr even allows that
[12:11] <jiggawattz> nah it's fair Maik
[12:11] <jiggawattz> close enough to Ubuntu
[12:12] <jiggawattz> supremekai: Hibernation is when memory is written to the disk
[12:12] <jiggawattz> you won't do that on a VPS
[12:13] <supremekai> jiggawattz, oh, only for vms?
[12:13] <jiggawattz> what
[12:14] <jiggawattz> only for laptops
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:54] <Zuroger-W102> Hello
[13:54] <Zuroger-W102> Are there any filesystem peculiarities that could make things weird if I clone an installation installed onto a HDD and move it onto a SSD ?
[13:55] <Zuroger-W102> If so, would it automatically detect it's on SSD and readjust things or would I have to do something myself?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> Zuroger-W102: ubuntu usualy adapts itself on your plugged hardware after cloning
[13:56] <Zuroger-W102> Because it would then need to enable TRIM for example right?
[13:56] <Zuroger-W102> Which is what I could probably check and manually enable and make sure, I guess.
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> Zuroger-W102: trimming is done automaticly these days, so after a few boots should be optimized for your new plugged ssd
[14:02] <tomreyn> systemctl cat fstrim.timer; systemctl cat fstrim.service
[14:03] <tomreyn> so Ubuntu will automatically run fstrim against all file systems supporting the DISCARD operation once a week.
[14:04] <tomreyn> output is logged to the systemd journal
[14:04] <Zuroger-W102> Ah, interesting, thanks!
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> Zuroger-W102: will you be using dd or clonezilla?
[14:06] <Zuroger-W102> I'm used to clonezilla and I usually have been cloning/backuping Windows, I think it's the second time ever I'm doing a linux.
[14:07] <Zuroger-W102> I don't think I messed with defaults the last time, whatever clonezilla chosen for the EXT4 filesystem.
[14:07] <Zuroger-W102> Tho, it will be an image first, not a direct clone, because I do want the backup as well.
[14:09] <tomreyn> i haven't used clonezilla in a while, i assume it takes care of this, but not sure: make sure your partitioned disk space on the source disk can actually fit onto the target.
[14:24] <raffaem2> How do I setup USB tethering for Weylus? https://github.com/H-M-H/Weylus
[14:57] <leftyfb> raffaem2: you're asking how to do something and then immediately link to the instructions on how to to it?
[14:58] <raffaem2> <leftyfb "raffaem2: you're asking how to d"> There are no instructions in the link
[14:58] <raffaem2> leftyfb: There is written "Alternatively there is USB tethering too, which can be used to setup a peer to peer connection between your tablet and computer over USB.". This is not instruction
[14:59] <leftyfb> raffaem2: as has been pointed out to you multiple times, please don't quote people in replies. That said, you'll have to contact Welus for support with their project. It's not an officially support Ubuntu application
[15:00] <leftyfb> Weylus*
[15:00] <raffaem2> leftyfb: sorry
[15:00] <raffaem2> leftyfb: I though that setting up USB tethering was something "standard"
[15:01] <leftyfb> raffaem2: what kind of tablet?
[15:01] <raffaem2> leftyfb: Samsung Galaxy Tab S4
[15:04] <leftyfb> raffaem2: this might be a good place to start: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-tether-your-smartphone-in-linux/
[15:04] <leftyfb> raffaem2: though I don't know about a tablet if it doesn't have a data plan, it might not have the ability to do usb tethering
[15:05] <raffaem2> leftyfb: I did follow that guide
[15:05] <raffaem2> and ifconfig shows usb0
[15:05] <raffaem2> but I am unable to connect to Weylus from the tablet
[15:07] <leftyfb> Does usb0 have an IP address?
[15:08] <Ahoj12334> Tomryen you advised me to copy bios to USB and try go to bios and update. I was in Bios but there is not any possibility how to actualize bios from bios... so I think only possibility is following: https://bladecoder.medium.com/flash-your-lenovo-ideapad-laptop-bios-from-linux-using-uefi-capsule-updates-a82e455ea29c    but Im, stuck here with:
[15:08] <Ahoj12334> fwupdate -a {e20bafd3-9914-4f4f-9537-3129e090eb3c} ./3HCN24WW.cap --esp-path=/boot   - I dont know what is esp-path, anyone help pls?
[15:09] <leftyfb> raffaem2: if so, then again, this is a Weylus support question. Your issue is that of Weylus not taking advantage of the connection. That is an aspect of the application, not Ubuntu. Ubuntu is doing what it’s supposed to.
[15:18] <tomreyn> Ahoj12334: esp stands for efi system partition. on ubuntu, the efi system partition is mounted to /boot/efi by default. i cannot tell whether the approach you're taking is safe to use.
[15:21] <Ahoj12334> tomryen, i dont mind if its safe or not, I can lost current system and install new one. Now I did all from manual but stuck here, i think paths are incorrect but dont know what is correct as i dont know linux basics :-(  https://pastebin.com/PxGQYmxf   I following this:
[15:21] <Ahoj12334> https://bladecoder.medium.com/flash-your-lenovo-ideapad-laptop-bios-from-linux-using-uefi-capsule-updates-a82e455ea29c
[15:22] <Ahoj12334> based on error I think I have only error in paths / syntax I used but i dont know what is correct one
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: with bios/firmware updates its not a matter safe or not, you can brick your system if doing things wrong
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: see also the ##hardware channel for guidance with uefi/hardware questions
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: does fwupdate list something on your system?
[15:28] <Ahoj12334> if brick happaned its fine (it didnt work before). I just would like to try manual I found.  Yes, I was succesfull with fwupdate -l    https://pastebin.com/GXVT0V3C
[15:30] <bl> after upgrading to 18.04 is there any reason to keep the Unity Tweak Tool or CompizConfig Settings Manager?
[15:33] <Maik> bl: no, since 18.04 uses Gnome 3 as desktop
[15:33] <bl> from what i've read gdm3 replaced lightdm in 18.04 and gnome-shell replaced unity
[15:33] <Maik> yep
[15:33] <bl> (though in the context of my original question it is not relevant that gdm3 replaced lightdm...)
[15:33] <Maik> so unity tweak tool etc. aren't needed anymore
[15:34] <ioria> blyou can still install unity on 18.04
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: i think that guide you found is pretty sane, if fwupdate lists an update, i think you can proceed safely
[15:36] <bl> ioria: gotcha, yea i was looking at that but more out of curiosity, i think i like gnome-shell so far
[15:36] <ioria> bl you can have both , if you want
[15:37] <Ahoj12334> lotuspsychje but I followed but Im stick with part of flash himself where I getting error /boot was not mounted  - so I just think I have something wrong with path or syntax - please see what i tried, I also did some dir to show what is inside of directories:  https://pastebin.com/GXVT0V3C
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: thats gonna be one for you^
[15:38] <razan> hello all
[15:38] <razan> i need your help
[15:38] <razan> i have encrypted with LUks and disk graphical tool in ubuntu a disk of data
[15:39] <razan> few minutes ago, I have unencrypted my disk
[15:39] <razan> and accidentally, I delete the luks container during the disc was unencrypted
[15:39] <razan> but, it was unmount and now I can't access it
[15:39] <razan> can you help me please
[15:45] <bl> ioria: i see, i think right now i want to understand better what these things are and what the defaults are.  from what i've looked at so far upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 compiz was replaced by mutter, gdm3 replaced lightdm, and unity was replaced by gnome-shell
[15:46] <ioria> bl yes, we can say that
[15:47] <Ahoj12334> lotuspsychje I think I moved :-)  -  https://pastebin.com/ij13BxTv  - the error indikates I definitly have error in path I used (--esp-path=/boot) - in manual I can see the note "Note that I manually specify the ESP path which defaults to /boot/efi. Use the appropriate path for your Linux installation." - I think user used different distro with
[15:47] <tomreyn> razan: i'm having some difficulties following your description, but it sounds like you destroyed the crypto container. if so, restore backups.
[15:47] <Ahoj12334> different path, so what is correct --esp-path for Ubuntu?
[15:49] <EriC^^> Ahoj12334: yeah it's /boot/efi
[15:50] <Ahoj12334> so following is correct syntax? sudo fwupdate -a {e20bafd3-9914-4f4f-9537-3129e090eb3c} ./bios.cab --esp-path=/boot/efi
[15:52] <bl> ioria: thanks for your help.  this might be a bit off topic but from what i understand an alternative to X11 is Wayland, which is a change Ubuntu wants to eventually make the default
[15:52] <ioria> bl probably, we'll see
[15:52] <razan> tomreyn: how to restore it ?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> bl: 21.04 will have wayland by default
[15:53] <Ahoj12334> EriC^^ I feel Im so close - just path issue, right? https://pastebin.com/CBNFMTQa
[15:54] <razan> I come back
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: bios.cap vc cab
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> vs
[15:54] <Ahoj12334> OMG im really microswoft idiot
[15:57] <Ahoj12334> lotuspsychje I moved forward but new error here:  https://pastebin.com/QvJzEew4
[16:13] <Ahoj12334> lotuspsychje maybe wrong path again? I found I have following path:  admin:///boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/fw/fwupd-{e20bafd3-9914-4f4f-9537-3129e090eb3c}.cap
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: not sure, im reading things on not capable capsules too
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: not sure, but suspecting something like this; https://github.com/rhboot/fwupdate/wiki/Debugging-UEFI-Capsule-updates
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> Ahoj12334: so doublecheck if you find that in your bios, Lenovo "Windows UEFI firmware update"
[16:29] <Ahoj12334> lotuspsychje i will check, only it will take some time, its maybe half hour till im able go to lenovo bios - it basically doesnt work (other users has similar problem). Anyway based on description I dont think this is related to my error, my error really seems more wrong path related
[16:32] <node1> Which is the best application in Ubuntu to record screen
[16:33] <VMGuy23> node1: OBS Studio is good if you know how to use it
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> there's also kazam
[16:33] <VMGuy23> but Deepin Screen Recorder works well
[16:33] <node1> means? it does not easy options to record?
[16:34] <node1> I'm looking for offical recognized, no unoffical
[16:34] <Ahoj12334> lotuspsychje definitly in the bios is not anything like "Windows UEFI firmware update"
[16:34] <VMGuy23> OBS Studio is slightly complicated, allows you to add colour, screen, window, camera, text and allows you to resize all of them on a canvas. It doest always record ful quality for some reason
[16:35] <node1> If it's complicated then leave it.
[16:36] <VMGuy23> both OBS and Deepin Screen Recorder are on apt
[16:36] <VMGuy23> Deepin Screen Recorder is best for beginners though.
[16:37] <VMGuy23> gtg
[16:37] <Ahoj12334> lotus
[16:39] <node1> E: Package 'gtk-recordmydesktop' has no installation candidate
[16:39] <node1> It's not there?
[16:39] <Ahoj12334> lotuspsychje I think I will not try to update to Bios and will current system. Remove ACPI errors and long boot may be more faster, anyway thank you for your help and I invite you for the coffee to my place :-)
[16:39] <ioria> node1, just 'recordmydesktop'
[16:40] <node1> yes but it fails here
[16:41] <node1> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/mnPPmM6cRR/
[16:41] <ioria> fails what ?
[16:41] <Ahoj12334> Anyone please to help me to remove ACPI errors during the booting? I cannot update bios as its too difficult so just want to skip those errors to make boot more faster (take minutes instead of seconds). Already tried GRUB  change ACPI=OFF but errors still appearing and boot still long
[16:42] <node1> I would likes to record my terminal activity.
[16:43] <ioria> node1,  it works fine here. what ubuntu release ?
[16:43] <node1> Description:	Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
[16:44] <ioria> node1,  apt-cache policy recordmydesktop
[16:44] <node1> ioria, What are you trying to do here?
[16:45] <ioria> node1, check the source
[16:45] <node1> It's installed here.
[16:45] <node1>  Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>+svn602-1.1ubuntu1
[16:45] <node1>   Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>+svn602-1.1ubuntu1
[16:46] <ioria> that's not the source, but the version
[16:46] <node1> to check source of what?
[16:47] <ioria> ok
[16:48] <leftyfb> node1: it's not in the official repo's, but I've found peek to be very good. It also records right to an animated gif if you want. https://github.com/phw/peek#ubuntu
[16:49] <leftyfb> node1: it's lightweight and easy to use. Not a lot of features though
[16:49] <MIF> can I get back a folder I removed?
[16:49] <MIF> I did it from command line
[16:49] <leftyfb> MIF: if you used rm to delete it, your only option is to restore from backup
[16:49] <node1> leftyfb, Thanks i will check this out.
[16:49] <MIF> darn it
[16:50] <leftyfb> MIF: you could also try something like photorec, though results aren't guaranteed. Not as simple as just telling it to just "undelete" a particular thing
[16:50] <MIF> I am tring that right now
[16:51] <Iarla> Is it possible to have Thunderbird only sync IMAP for a certain time period? I'm trying to save disk space. The only options close to this involve deletion on the server but I don't want that.
[18:10] <Simplar> Hello! How do I properly install Ubuntu on an SSD drive which contains Windows? Thanks!
[18:18] <EriC^^> Simplar: shrink the partition in windows, boot ubuntu live usb, choose to install  alongside windows
[18:18] <cbreak> is nuking windows an option for you?
[18:19] <EriC^^> Simplar: you might want to boot a couple times into windows after you shrink the partition as well
[18:19] <Simplar> Windows still has some unique things which aren't yet present in Ubuntu
[18:19] <Simplar> But when Ubuntu gets to support them, Windows gets nuked
[18:20] <tomreyn> consider running windows in a vm instead
[18:20] <tomreyn> if you want dual-boot, make sure you disable fast startup in windows. you may also want to edit the windows registry so it can handle a hardware clock set to utc
[18:22] <Simplar> I own Acer Nitro 5 laptop, and it's a huge plus for me to have NitroSense.
[18:23] <Simplar> I also don't know any good alternatives to Bandicam on Ubuntu
[18:26] <tomreyn> try to explain the functionality a software provides if you're looking for ubuntu alternatives, since not everyone will know the windows softwares
[18:31] <ThinkT510> Simplar: OBS studio is an open source alternative that can do screencasting
[18:32] <Simplar> ThinkT510: doesn't it eat more than Bandicam?
[18:32] <Simplar> I know about OBS, one thing I'm pretty much aware of is how it compresses the sound
[18:34] <ThinkT510> Simplar: I've never used it but if you want to get away from windows programs then searching for open source alternatives is what you need to do
[18:34] <ThinkT510> apparently vlc is also cpable of screencasting
[18:34] <ThinkT510> capable
[18:34] <Simplar> That's my concern. Basically what I need for my YT channel is a way to record a screen region and a replacement to Paint which is fast enough
[18:35] <Simplar> I know VLC, an excellent video player
[18:36] <ThinkT510> gimp can be used as an alternative to paint
[18:36] <Simplar> A very resource costy alt to Paint tho
[18:37] <ThinkT510> unless you're planning on running it on something like a raspberry pi I doubt performance will be an issue with gimp
[18:38] <blb4393> they managed to get gimp ui in the most nonintuitive way. I always have trouble with it to do basic taks
[18:38] <blb4393> tasks
[18:51] <MIF> out of gzip, bzip2 and XZ what will compress more?
[19:06] <tomreyn> MIF: given enough RAM, with default settings, xz
[19:06] <tomreyn> +enough time
[19:07] <tomreyn> *may not apply to every file type and file size
[19:11] <Rumen> After the last update the screen resolution get problems. Start with 1600x900 instead of 1920x1080
[19:12] <Rumen> I already try to fix it with CVT and XRANDR but got error https://pastebin.com/XxFMDY1x
[19:12] <Rumen> Any idea how to fix it?
[19:12] <MIF> ok
[19:12] <Rumen> After wake up from hybernation again start with 1600x900
[19:13] <Rumen> And the screen screen resolution missing in the list - the biggest one is 1600x900
[19:14] <Rumen> I installed arandr and after somehow I fixed the issue one time OI saved the config file. After restart again same problem
 Rumen: the problem with the xrandr request seems to be about the mode name "1920x1080_60.00" - try something simpler, alphanumeric only
[19:16] <tomreyn> i told you this about 12 hours ago
[19:16] <Rumen> I did it with MyScreen
[19:16] <Rumen> I mean that was "MyScreen"
[19:16] <Rumen> same  problem again start with 1600x900
[19:17] <tomreyn> so you also read about your graphics chipset being considered legacy?
[19:17] <tomreyn> ...no longer supported by current proprietary drivers?
[19:17] <Rumen> I use that card from years it is Nvidia Quadro 4000
[19:18] <tomreyn> !irclogs
[19:18] <Rumen> [21:16:13] <tomreyn> i told you this about 12 hours ago - Yeah but the IRC kicked me out by some reason and after I came I didn't seen the old messages
[19:19] <tomreyn> so the logs should help there
[19:20] <Rumen> !irclogs
[19:20] <tomreyn> still the same ;-)
[19:22] <Rumen> tomreyn I will try to open them, never did it before
[19:23] <tomreyn> i'm sure you used a web browser before
[19:23] <VMGuy23> what is the conversation, just joined
[19:34] <Rumen> tomreyn - last update of the Ubuntu - regular update, I use Ubuntu 20.04 LTS 64 bit, the graphic driver has not been changed just the core so no idea but I think the problem is not in the video driver
[19:35] <Rumen> the graphic driver is Nvidia 390 it was that until 1 year and more and has no any problem until the last update of the system before 2-3 days
[19:36] <Rumen> It was the regular "auto update" where installed many new version of programs and also Ubuntu basic components
[19:36] <tomreyn> Rumen: i owuldn't really know, i just noted that you are using a driver which nvidia says they don'T support your graphics card on. it can still work, though. personally, i stay away from nvidia graphics card since i don't want to depend on proprietary graphics drivers for acceptable performance.
[19:37] <tomreyn> (i do see how this doesn'T help you now, but i'm unable to provide more help)
[19:37] <Rumen> The uograde was to 5.8.0-45-generi
[19:38] <Rumen> After that came the issue
[19:41] <Rumen> now it recongnize the settings and the monitor https://i.imgur.com/e93GA6X.png but after start shows DVI-I-0 and and resolution 1600x900
[19:43] <Rumen> I don't think the problem is in the driver it works fine https://i.imgur.com/rn7LS62.png  I think the problem is when the core try to recognize the monitor
[19:51] <Simplar> Is 100mbps read speed good for Ubuntu install USB?
[19:52] <Simplar> 100mbps read and 25mbps write
[19:56] <tomreyn> Simplar: is there a problem you're trying to solve?
[19:57] <Simplar> tomreyn: I want to pick a good USB flash drive to keep it solely as installation / recovery media of Ubuntu
[19:58] <Simplar> Right now, I am considering a 32GB eXceleram A3 Series
[19:59] <gordonjcp> Simplar: that'll be fine
[19:59] <oerheks> those speeds are fine.
[19:59] <VMGuy23> why 32GB
[19:59] <tomreyn> Simplar: storage performance is usually measured in IOPS or megabytes (or mibibytes) per second, yours seems to be megabits/second, which is a bit weird. what's the source of this data?
[19:59] <VMGuy23> pretty sure 16GB would be cheaper, and still work fine
[19:59] <Simplar> https://www.exceleram.co/products/usb-drives/
[20:00] <Simplar> You can see the ATTO Speed column here
[20:00] <tomreyn> so you have questions about hardware, there's ##hardware also
[20:01] <Simplar> Thanks for the advice, I'll hop into ##hardware
[20:01] <leftyfb> Simplar: https://smile.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Flair-Flash-Drive/dp/B015CH1GTO/   $7
[20:03] <oerheks> krumelmonster, fix your connection please, thanks
[20:07] <Simplar> leftyfb: awesome one!
[20:12] <lolcat> Hello
[20:13] <jjbuggle> tsup
[20:13] <lolcat> I have an icy box enclosure, it wont show up on my ubuntu laptop, what to do?
[20:13] <jjbuggle> lolcat: like this: https://www.icydock.com/index.php  ?
[20:14] <lolcat> yes
[20:14] <VMGuy23> check for drivers
[20:14] <lolcat> how?
[20:14] <VMGuy23> look in Driver Manager
[20:15] <VMGuy23> or see if there are Linux/Debian/Ubuntu drivers on the manufacturers website.
[20:15] <VMGuy23> i dont know what an icy box is
[20:15] <VMGuy23> gtg
[20:16] <jjbuggle> does ubuntu allow icons on the desktop?
[20:16] <VMGuy23> it has them by default
[20:20] <oerheks> jjbuggle, no, unless you install ; sudo apt install gnome-tweak-tool gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons#logout, login and check gnome-tweaks
[21:21] <ec> o7, all
[21:36] <Rumen> tomreyn I checked the driver for my video card in the Nvidia web site, my driver is last and compatible for my card 390.141 is the last driver and it is fully compatible with Quadro 4000 under Ubuntu 20.04 LTS 64 bits
[21:41] <tomreyn> Rumen: yes, i guess 390 should work. you weren't using that version by the time you created this, though: "nvidia-settings:  version 460.39"
[21:42] <tomreyn> source: https://pastebin.com/raw/LVb48hxj
[21:45] <Rumen> that's strange I didn't see there is such version, because I use 390 at least this is what shows in Additional drivers https://i.imgur.com/H3HP5il.png
[21:45] <Rumen> Could that be the problem? Somehow somewhere it shows 460 instead of 390?
[21:45] <Rumen> I didn't installed any driver after 390
[21:46] <Rumen> No idea from where and how appeared there 460.39
[21:46] <Rumen> How to fix that?
[21:49] <Rumen> Can I delete xorg.conf and generate it again?
[21:49] <Rumen> Will that help?
[21:50] <Rumen> I think that xorg.conf was created by the Nvidia application
[21:51] <Rumen> I saved the file with that button https://i.imgur.com/qGfeLgH.png
[22:13] <oerheks> maybe something like; sudo ubuntu-drivers install 390, or use the drivertool in updates?
[22:30] <tyson2> I am trying to set up a static ip on Ubuntu Desktop 20.04, following the official instructions, which recommend using the gui.  However I am not clear on how to set up the static routes.
[22:31] <tyson2> these are the instructions that I am following: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/net-fixed-ip-address.html.en
[22:33] <Bashing-om> tyson2: See: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan for an example.
[22:33] <coXZist> tyson2: netplan is the way to go
[22:34] <tyson2> even though I am using the desktop version?\
[22:34] <jeremy31> tyson2: Can you use your router to set a static IP
[22:35] <coXZist> tyson2: I deploy ub20 desktop machines in an enterpise environment an almost never use the gui to configure anything
[22:35] <tyson2> this is for a vm running on hyper-v within windows 10
[22:35] <coXZist> jeremy31: well technically thats justs a ipreserve not a static host ip
[22:36] <tyson2> I will check out that link Bashing-om
[22:37] <tyson2> and will also investigate netplan generally and ipreserve. Thanks
[22:37] <Bashing-om> tyson2: Pretty straight forward.
[22:37] <Bashing-om> !netplan | tyson2
[22:45] <jaysbnc> hi guys i am trying to install ubuntu on a macbookpro6,2, it gives me a hard time. like black screen after installing the NVIDIA 340 drivers. Anyone here has a good hint for me? i a want to get a clean install without mac os.
[22:47] <Bashing-om> jaysbnc: Old hardware ? As the 340 driver is so old that Nvidia no longer supports it ( we do ).
[22:49] <jaysbnc> Bashing-om: its a macbook pro from mid 2010 with gt 330m. Macos works great, but i am willing to change to linux. i have already backed up my data. and tried to install 20.10 a few times, without succes, since the nvdia driver turns the screen black.
[22:52] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-340 groovy
[22:52] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-340 bionic
[22:52] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-340 bionic
[22:52] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-340 groovy
[22:53] <jaysbnc> do i need the nvidia driver?
[22:54] <jaysbnc> if it has no disadvantages i can stick to the x.org driver
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Well - ^^ 340 we still support the hardware ... what results however if you boot with the "nomodeset" boot parameter ?
[22:54] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | jaysbnc
[22:55] <jaysbnc> Bashing-om: i cant even see a prompt for entering, sind my mac boots directly into ubuntu
[22:56] <Bashing-om> jaysbnc: Weather you "need" the proporietary driver is depending on your use case of the system - I do not as the default nouveau driver does for me.
[22:57] <jaysbnc> ok, i dont play games, just surfing, some ssh, youtube and stuff
[22:59] <Bashing-om> jathan: Then yeah - try with the open source driver nouveau - can you boot to the grub boot menu ? from there boot a "recovery" kernel ?
[22:59] <jaysbnc> no way for any menu, ubuntu just boots
[23:00] <jaysbnc> mac is efi only i think
[23:02] <jaysbnc> i just see something like „Failed to load MOKList....“
[23:02] <Bashing-om> jaysbnc: Sorry - I do not know how a Mac boots. At the bios splash screen spams the escape key - ( 3 second window of opportunity - timming has to be good ) does this yield the grub boot menu ?
[23:03] <jaysbnc> Bashing-om: :-D mac was allways special, but i am confident to get away
[23:05] <Bashing-om> jaysbnc: "MOK" makes me think "secure Boot" .. but again I do not know Mac. Secure boot a Microsoft thing ?
[23:10] <jeremy31> Bashing-om: Secure Boot is a UEFI thing, not sure if limited to MS
[23:13] <cbreak> I think some linux distros support it too
[23:13] <cbreak> like ubuntu
[23:14] <jaysbnc> i am trying refind now :-D maybe i will have an promt to try nomedeset
[23:14] <cbreak> if you want to have more control over the boot process on a real mac, you can take a look at RefInd
[23:14] <cbreak> at least on the x86 macs that should work
[23:16] <cbreak> jaysbnc: Mac Books are special
[23:16] <cbreak> they can run with the nvidia gpu or the embedded GPU
[23:16] <cbreak> but of course, you only have one display
[23:16] <cbreak> so there's some internal routing going on, which is likely not understood by linux / your driver
[23:18] <jaysbnc> cbreak: true words ;-) mac os is getting on my nerves, my hardware is still good, but the software sucks somehow. my macbook gets hot for no reasons. some tasks are going postal. none of my ubuntu or debian server had this kind of behavoir, thats why i am switching to ubuntu
[23:24] <cbreak> <- running a hackintosh, because of the software :P
[23:25] <cbreak> can you use the mac book via the intel GPU?
[23:25] <cbreak> using the nvidia one for cuda only?
[23:36] <jaysbnc> cbreak: no, ubuntu insists using the gt 330m
[23:36] <cbreak> hmm :/
[23:37] <cbreak> maybe a problem with X config... I have no idea how that works in detail
[23:37] <cbreak> I think you could blacklist the device / driver though, but then you couldn't use the DGPU at all
[23:40] <user01> hi, my hardware support 4k@60hz but ubuntu studio only shows me up to 30Hz . . . 1920x1080 120Hz but it again only shows up to 30Hz, how do I change?
[23:43] <user01> oh wait, maybe the cable that came with the device only supports 30Hz let me swap and see
[23:46] <user01> yep it was the cable . . . i thought the cable that came with it would have supported what the device can do :p
[23:46] <oerheks> good find
[23:47] <user01> is there something that can be installed so that the menu doesnt look microscopic in 4k?
[23:48] <jaysbnc> cbreak: it has something to do with how mac efi handles  the pci-e devices
[23:48] <user01> like a theme or something that looks like 1920x1080
[23:49] <user01> in terms of scale
[23:49] <cbreak> user01: ubuntu settings allow setting of a scale factor
[23:49] <cbreak> 200% should work fine at 4k
[23:49] <user01> oh i see thanks
[23:49] <user01> i dont want that applied for 4k videos though
[23:50] <user01> it wont right?
[23:50] <cbreak> why not?
[23:50] <cbreak> it scales the logical DPI
[23:50] <cbreak> not the image
[23:51] <oerheks> luxury problems, there is scaling in settings, not sure for video too
[23:52] <cbreak> you'd watch them in fullscreen anyway, right?
[23:52] <cbreak> so it doesn't matter