[08:04] <Flannel> tikka: /home/username and also /home/uesrname/public_html need to be readable by www-data
[08:04] <joedaddymac> !anyone
[08:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:04] <asimismo> bimberi: Thanks! I'll poke around some more. Still getting an error in the logs (and no video), but this seemed like a correct step.
[08:04] <Geeerd> I cant find any text in the context menu of xmms , what should i do to get it back
[08:04] <overboard> 'ola
[08:04] <ScurveyFrog> my system has loaded the drivers for my capture card, but I still can't get video through it. does anyone know what to do about this?
[08:04] <bimberi> asimismo: np, good luck :)
[08:04] <nito> hi
[08:05] <tikka> Flannel, ahh, thank you :D
[08:05] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: what do you want to do with the network?
[08:05] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: file-sharing? games?
[08:05] <leotr> hi all. I am trying to install HP LJ1018 printer, seems like it has been installed (i manuallyt specified bus and device number in "hp-setup") when i give a command to print test page, it is queued, but no pages are printed
[08:05] <joedaddymac> I want to connect my xbox and ubuntu box together so that I can ftp to the xbox.
[08:06] <the_hammer> !offtopic
[08:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.  My manual says that it is an ESS1879 sound chip, but I don't see those words either.
[08:06] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: I don't have an xbox, do they belong to a workgroup like a windows computer?
[08:07] <joedaddymac> I just want to share the internet between them.
[08:07] <joedaddymac> I have a modded xbox
[08:07] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: try: lspci | grep ess
[08:07] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: i cant stand those
[08:07] <joedaddymac> what?
[08:07] <noiesmo> Ted_Nancy: it might be listed as MultiMedia
[08:07] <dubar> gmosley
[08:07] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: modded Xboxs
[08:07] <HKJGN__> XD
[08:07] <joedaddymac> why?
[08:08] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: are they hooked up to the same router/switch?
[08:08] <HKJGN__> i unno, i figure i paid for a Game Console, not another Computer
[08:08] <insomniac190> is it possible to change my computers mac address or only my network cards mac address
[08:08] <mirra> can someone help me with a mysql question (#mysql is dead)
[08:08] <joedaddymac> Im trying to connect them together using a crossover cable.
[08:08] <joedaddymac> I dont have a router.
[08:09] <noiesmo> !ask | mirra
[08:09] <ubotu> mirra: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:09] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: do you know the IP address of the XBOX?
[08:09] <mirra> here goes
[08:09] <joedaddymac> yup
[08:09] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: can you ping it from your computer?
[08:09] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: youre trying to connect your xbox to your computer with crossover cable?
[08:09] <mirra> is there a way to setup replication using a single instance of mysql? basically have two db's - one of them just replicating the other?
[08:09] <tikka> Flannel, do you happen to know of the best way to set the permissions? I am really lost
[08:09] <mirra> if not..can someone help me install two instances of mysql on ubuntu??
[08:10] <noiesmo> mirra: you could use rsync for that on a cron job
[08:10] <rredd4> how do I do this? > You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.
[08:10] <joedaddymac> yeah
[08:10] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: "lspci | grep ess" returns nothing. Sound works fine in W2K so I doubt it's a bios issue. Should I just continue on with the instructions?
[08:10] <mirra> noiesmo, can't..its an active db and the tables cannot be locked on the main one
[08:10] <joedaddymac> yes to both questions
[08:10] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: not to sound stupid, but you're sure its a crossover right? and not just a standard Ethernet cable
[08:10] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: yeah, I would give it a shot
[08:10] <joedaddymac> yeah Im sure, I spliced it myself. : )
[08:11] <joedaddymac> converted a regular to a crossover
[08:11] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: try: lspci
[08:11] <HKJGN__> joedaddymac: a little more insulting question... are you sure you did it right? :x
[08:11] <HKJGN__> lol
[08:11] <joedaddymac> ha ha ha
[08:11] <mirra> noiesmo, can you help with either of those issues?
[08:11] <joedaddymac> yes im sure
[08:11] <HKJGN__> ok
[08:11] <noiesmo> mirra: I once had co that had server in usa and the database was rsync'd with a local one every 15 minutes
[08:11] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: this will be a simplified version of the other list, maybe easier to spot your device
[08:11] <HKJGN__> we'll, that covers the hardware
[08:11] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: i was having problems when i was getting mine set up.  Are you trying to stream vids and stuff with xbmc?
[08:11] <Ted_Nancy> noiesmo: yeah, nothing like that either. Just: Hostbridge, PCI bridge, Cardbus Bridge (x2), ISA bridge, IDE interface, USB Controller, VGA compat controller
[08:12] <mirra> noiesmo, i was told that unless the tables are locked..any method like that won't ensure a reliable backup
[08:12] <joedaddymac> yeah Im trying to send roms to my emu's
[08:12] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: have you tried to ftp to that IP address?
[08:12] <joedaddymac> I dont know how on ubuntu...
[08:12] <insomniac190> joedaddymac:  is it showing up that it is not connected?
[08:12] <meee> joedaddymac: yeah, don't you usually use FTP to access xbox normally?
[08:12] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: does an xbox definitely accept ftp connections?
[08:13] <HKJGN__> >.>
[08:13] <noiesmo> mirra: not sure about the lock'd bit sorry.
[08:13] <mirra> noiesmo, can you help with either issue
[08:13] <joedaddymac> it says that it refuses the connection
[08:13] <mirra> noiesmo, can replication be done with only one mysql instance?
[08:13] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: Yeah, looking at lspci now... Hostbridge, PCI bridge, Cardbus Bridge (x2), ISA bridge, IDE interface, USB Controller, VGA compat controller
[08:13] <Ted_Nancy> Gonna try moving on and seeing what happens
[08:13] <joedaddymac> I think Im nust not doing it right.
[08:13] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: use gftp
[08:14] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: you'll probably have to install it
[08:14] <joedaddymac> I installed it a little while ago but I have no idea how to use it.
[08:14] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: try: man gftp
[08:15] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: what dont you understand?
[08:15] <joedaddymac> in terminal right?
[08:15] <joedaddymac> how to set it up
[08:16] <noiesmo> mirra: sorry not sure I know we use to just rsync between two boxes then when the usa on broke we just copied the most recent sync back to usa and off we went again
[08:16] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: on your modded xbox dashboard it displays the ip address right?
[08:16] <mirra> for an active web site/
[08:16] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: sudo apt-get install gftp
[08:16] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: Well, I can't find my hardware, and when I try to modprobe snd-ess18xx I get a not found error. Pressing tab doesn't show me a list of modules like it should.
[08:16] <joedaddymac> yeah, I put it in gftp but it says that it refuses the connecton
[08:17] <joedaddymac> I put the username and pass but no luck.
[08:17] <insomniac190> sounds like its not connected
[08:17] <joedaddymac> yeah
[08:17] <joedaddymac> I know
[08:17] <rredd4> using fiesta, how do I do this? > You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.  I tried sudo apt-get install gtkpod && sudo apt-get install libmp4v2-0.  When I open a m4a file It doesn't work
[08:17] <joedaddymac> It's not finding the xbox
[08:17] <meee> joedaddymac: and you're absolutely sure that the ftp server is turned on on the xbox?
[08:17] <joedaddymac> yeah
[08:17] <joedaddymac> it is
[08:18] <joedaddymac> everything is as it should be
[08:18] <joedaddymac> its just not connecting
[08:18] <RC-Needs-Help> can anyone tell me where I can get a driver for Atheros AR5005G? Please
[08:18] <insomniac190> when i set mine up, i had to mess around with the wired connection in system>preferences>network
[08:18] <noiesmo> mirra: yes active web site with online store the sysnc was set to run every 3 minutes from usa to local back up so there would be possible 3 minutes loss of info hope that helps
[08:19] <Jack31>  how do i run a .py python file?
[08:19] <v3n0m`> I need help getting my tv tuner to work..I can find the tuner in device manager
[08:19] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_
[08:19] <mirra> no..thanks though
[08:19] <mirra> the data needs to be locked
[08:19] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: have you looked at this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88322
[08:19] <mirra> with that method
[08:19] <tikka> anyone know how to setup public_html ?
[08:20] <Frogzoo> Jack31: python blah.py
[08:20] <joedaddymac> aarrgghh... this is so frustrating.
[08:20] <joedaddymac> I installed flashfxp with wine
[08:20] <Jack31> thanks frogzoo
[08:20] <ubuntubeginz> hi...i downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin... how do i run this thing in ubuntu..
[08:20] <joedaddymac> it says it connects but then freezes
[08:20] <v3n0m`> lol nice
[08:20] <Flannel> tikka: your homedir should be 755 as should your public_html
[08:21] <pleb2> !wmv
[08:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <insomniac190> joedaddymac: try going into system<preferences>network  and click the box next to wired connections
[08:21] <kitsuneofdoom> My process list looks like Shawn of the Dead. I have a bit of a zombie process problem, and init is using large tracts of cycles. It's 2:30 AM and I'm refrencing things like crazy. Any ideas?
[08:21] <insomniac190> so it has a check next to it
[08:21] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: Google Earth is available in the Medibuntu repository
[08:21] <dustin> what are the minimum requirements to run ubuntu 6.06 lts I have a pentium three box with like 256mb of pc100 ram and it loads so slow on the live cd
[08:21] <pleb2> !rmv
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <ScurveyFrog> joedaddymac: take a look at this: http://support.real-time.com/linux/web/gftp.html#upload
[08:21] <pleb2> !.rm
[08:21] <Flannel> dustin: that'll work fine.  LiveCDs are... well, liveCDs
[08:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:21] <pleb2> !rm
[08:21] <joedaddymac> I dont have a network option in there.
[08:22] <noiesmo> mirra: np :) don't know if this helps http://www.howtoforge.org/mysql_database_replication
[08:22] <Frogzoo> kitsuneofdoom: unless you're creating zombies yourself, it's likely someone hammering your network, maybe web
[08:22] <joedaddymac> oh wait....
[08:22] <joedaddymac> my bad
[08:22] <pleb2> !rm
[08:22] <joedaddymac> lol
[08:22] <joedaddymac> one sec
[08:22] <ubuntubeginz> Flannel: any idea on how to run this *.bin file
[08:22] <dustin> it froze up on me
[08:22] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: don't.  Just use the one from the repository
[08:22] <Frogzoo> !enter | joedaddymac
[08:22] <ubotu> joedaddymac: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:22] <v3n0m`> I need help getting my tv tuner to work..I can find the tuner in device manager, but that's it so far, i'm not finding anything too useful on the forums > this is my tuner http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167956&highlight=tv+tuner+feisty
[08:22] <pleb2> !ram | pleb2
[08:22] <RC-Needs-Help> Does an Atheros AR5005G work in Ubuntu ???
[08:22] <kitsuneofdoom> Frogzoo: that would be odd. Oh well, I suppose that explains why it's mostly sshd. The only port that goes through the firewall
[08:23] <pleb2> !realplayer
[08:23] <insomniac190> ubuntubeginz: try this method, its easier
[08:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:23] <joedaddymac> o.k. im there
[08:23] <insomniac190> ubuntubeginz: http://www.internetschoon.nl/viewSingleItem/229/Installing-Google-Earth-on-Ubuntu.htm
[08:23] <ubuntubeginz> Flanel: so do i type...sudo apt get install GoogleEarth
[08:23] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey... chekcing it out now, then off to bed. Thanks for your help and time.
[08:23] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: first youll have to add a repository, but yeah.
[08:23] <blackjackel> hey DBO , you there?
[08:23] <Flannel> !medibuntu | ubuntubeginz
[08:23] <ubotu> ubuntubeginz: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:24] <ubuntubeginz> insomniac190: k.. i will try it oso...
[08:24] <dustin> no you have to add to your source list first
[08:24] <ScurveyFrog> Ted_Nancy: no problem, sorry I don't know the answer, I'm just sharing what I do know
[08:24] <Flannel> insomniac190, ubuntubeginz, don't use that.  Get the deb.  Either download the deb individually or add the repos
[08:24] <Ted_Nancy> Scurvey: I'm farther along then I was.  Should the zombies start dissapearing>
[08:25] <ubuntubeginz> Flanel: ok..will folow ur method then...
[08:25] <tikka> Flannel, I have now set home a public_html to drwxr-xr-x and went to localhost/~tikka/
[08:25] <tikka> Flannel,  unfortunatelly still not working
[08:25] <insomniac190> Flannel: what do you mean?
[08:25] <Flannel> tikka: what error do you get?
[08:26] <tikka> Flannel, 404
[08:26] <Flannel> tikka: and both /home/tikka and /home/tikka/public_html are 755?
[08:27] <Flannel> insomniac190: bin files (like installing from source) just throw files all over.  There's no way to cleanly remove it later, or upgrade cleanly, etc.  Package management gives you an easy way to cleanly remove everything you've added
[08:27] <tikka> Flannel, yep
[08:28] <insomniac190> Flannel: will keep that in mind
[08:28] <damian> hi what is the command to install all development packages?
[08:28] <crdlb> damian: all?
[08:28] <damian> dpkg install dev?
[08:29] <Flannel> tikka: go to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled, are userdir.conf and userdir.load there?
[08:29] <crdlb> damian: you can install all need to build a certain package with: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[08:29] <crdlb> needed*
[08:29] <Flannel> tikka: hmm.  Try restarting apache, just... to make sure.  `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart`
[08:29] <damian> i know there is a quick way to set up basic development packages i just forgot
[08:30] <varka> damian: do you mean build-essential perhaps?
[08:30] <Flannel> damian: the build-essential package
[08:30] <damian> yeah
[08:30] <damian> thanks
[08:30] <insomniac190> is there anyway to change the mac address of my computer itself?
[08:30] <kitsuneofdoom> ok, these zombies are not dissapearing
[08:31] <tikka> Flannel, thank you.. I didn't have the symlinks, now added working perfect. Thank you for your help :D
[08:32] <Bibagi> I want setup pppoe in ubuntu... how can i do that ?
[08:33] <Fivetwentysix> Bibagi: type "sudo pppoeconf" in terminal
[08:35] <CaptainApathy> ok... The system that we installed Feisty on has two network cards... the first one is active, however the second one was not set as active.... How can we fix that?
[08:35] <oldude67> hey where can i find some wallpapers?
[08:35] <mboman> oldude67: what type of wallpapers?
[08:35] <Madpilot> oldude67, gnome-look.org, among other places
[08:35] <oldude67> desktop back grounds
[08:35] <ScurveyFrog> oldude67: www.interfacelift.com
[08:35] <kitsuneofdoom> My zombies are not being reaped.
[08:36] <ScurveyFrog> oldude67: kde-look.org
[08:36] <GenNMX> kitsuneofdoom: I had that problem until I switched to 'Old Spice'.
[08:36] <nafis_devlpr> does anyone knows how to rescue grub after windows being re-installed
[08:36] <Flannel> !grub | nafis_devlpr
[08:36] <mboman> oldude67: I found some nice ones at http://www.desktopography.net/
[08:36] <ubotu> nafis_devlpr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:36] <jabbar> question about gaim
[08:36] <Madpilot> kitsuneofdoom, your what?
[08:36] <nafis_devlpr> i have tried the ways of ubuntu.com
[08:36] <crabgrass> so... how do i openbox? i logged in with an openbox session... and there's nothing here
[08:36] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: That first link there.
[08:36] <nafis_devlpr> but it didn't work
[08:36] <oldude67> thanks people
[08:36] <jabbar> how do you hide your username when logigng into IRC
[08:37] <jabbar> in gaim
[08:37] <Bibagi> Fivetwentysix i did.. and i saw a instruction too.. also i did put info in the box.. but how to dail that connection ?
[08:37] <CaptainApathy> ok... The system that we installed Feisty on has two network cards... the first one is active, however the second one was not set as active.... How can we fix that?
[08:37] <homanj> jabbar: might be a quicker answer in #pidgin
[08:37] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: yep
[08:37] <jabbar> kool
[08:37] <CaptainApathy> sorry if someone already answered that, I lost my connection
[08:37] <crabgrass> !openbox
[08:37] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[08:37] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a bunch of zombie processes, mostly sshd and sendmail-mta. Most of these were created yesterday
[08:37] <dustin> I just downloaded the new debian etch and was wanting to know if any of you have ran it is it ANY GOOD
[08:37] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  is what you need.  if youre having furhter problems, youll have to tell us
[08:37] <Bibagi> Fivetwentysix what i did in windows is... i enable the lan card.. then i dail the connection that i have created .. :S what to do in ubuntu
[08:38] <Flannel> dustin: #debian is what you want
[08:38] <dustin> ?
[08:38] <crabgrass> okay, better question: what's the difference between a window manager and ... a ... desktop manager? i'm not sure what all my options are
[08:38] <dustin> yeah i am running it because it is what my box can handle at this point in time
[08:38] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: I have done exactly what the link told me to, but it didn't work at all
[08:39] <Madpilot> dustin, this is #ubuntu, not #debian...
[08:39] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: You'll need to be more specific than "didnt work"
[08:39] <Fivetwentysix> Bibagi i'm not sure i understand your question?  And there was much rejoicing. Then God made Ubuntu from one of Debian's ribs. And there was much rejoicing. Sadly, the two, while similiar, do not really know what each other are thinking.
[08:39] <RAOF> crabgrass: A window manager manages your windows (titlebars, allows you to move, minimize, etc).  A desktop manager manages your desktop (icons, background, etc)
[08:39] <dustin> it was just casual conversation i appologize
[08:39] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: well it suppose to show the grub loader menu, but it didn't, just boot the windows
[08:39] <Flannel> dustin: ah.  That's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for
[08:40] <crabgrass> RAOF: alright, i see... so a window manager is between you and X, yes?
[08:40] <Fivetwentysix> Bibagi if you configure your pppoe connection it's automatically connected, you need to do nothing further.
[08:40] <Bibagi> Fivetwentysix : yes :S i need to enable the lan card.. then i need to dail to connect.. there is a cable connected to my lan card which came from media converter... UTP cable ..
[08:40] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: Sounds like you didn't successfully reinstall grub.  Did it give you any errors while you were trying to?
[08:40] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: nope, not at all
[08:40] <dhorner> how do I do multi-monitor in ubuntu?
[08:41] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: How are your partitions setup?
[08:41] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: like what??
[08:41] <dhorner> I've installed the ati binary drivers
[08:41] <dhorner> but I don't see any way of setting up the multi-monitors
[08:41] <chuck____> I need help enabling WPA on feisty so I can connect to my wireless router... any tips on how to do this with relative ease?  I'd like to enable WPA for roaming mode as well, not just set the wireless NIC to automatically connect to my router and authenticate
[08:41] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: We need to know where Ubuntu is (partition wise) and where Windows is and stuff.  Which harddrives have which, stuff like that
[08:42] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: windows is on a primary partition while ubuntu is on a logical one
[08:43] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: Alright, this is all on hda then I imagine (primary master).  So, which route did you take while reinstalling grub?
[08:43] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: tried to boot with the Live CD
[08:43] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel: exactly what ubuntu has stated
[08:44] <UberDuper> What's the ubuntu SDL package?
[08:44] <Fivetwentysix> Is there any good multiplayer games that run on ubuntu?
[08:44] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: There's a few different things you couldve done with still "following" that page.  Which one did you do?  And where did you install grub?
[08:45] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : typed find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:45] <quarkpup> Fivetwentysix: what flavor? www.happypenguin.org
[08:45] <AlienX> what's the command to set vim as my default editor?
[08:45] <AlienX> it's escaping me at 3am :(
[08:45] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : which gave me the partition to re-install grub
[08:45] <njero> okay, I am doing something stupid but I don't know what. I am trying to sudo apt-get install mysql-server but the package cannot be found... I have included universe in my sources.list... I have run apt-get clean and apt-get update... is there something I am missing?
[08:46] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: no.  That's not what you want.  You want the next group, the "Overwriting windows bootloader" one.
[08:46] <RAOF> crabgrass: Not really.  X just displays stuff.  The window manager is one of the things that uses X to display stuff (ie: the window borders) but even then it generally uses an underlying library (like GTK)
[08:46] <kitsuneofdoom> I have lots of zombie processes that have a PPID of 1 and don't seem to be dying.
[08:47] <quarkpup> UberDuper: I'm not very familiar with SDL but there's a libSDL series of packages if you search synaptic
[08:47] <ubuntubeginz> Flanel: i followed the instructions and installed GoogleEarht.... then after installing, i went to Applications->Internet->Google Earth...and my comp crash... anyway to debug this...
[08:47] <quarkpup> UberDuper: scroll down a few dozen after searching for sdl
[08:47] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : ??
[08:47] <enigma_> sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0?
[08:47] <kayde> hi, I REALLY need help to fix my ipod, HOW do I format it? what is the EASIEST way for me to do it? !!Im a complete noob to Linux!!
[08:47] <Draco_> are the repositories broken atm ? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[08:47] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel :  got that
[08:48] <Flannel> nafis_devlpr: You followed (from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows) the "Using the Desktop/LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader" instructions, you don't want that.  You want to follow: "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"
[08:48] <njero> enigma_, please shoot me...
[08:48] <enigma_> its early in the mornin'
[08:48] <chuck____> I need help enabling WPA on feisty so I can connect to my wireless router... any tips on how to do this with relative ease?  I'd like to enable WPA for roaming mode as well, not just set the wireless NIC to automatically connect to my router and authenticate
[08:48] <nafis_devlpr> Flannel : thanks :)
[08:48] <enigma_> peace
[08:48] <njero> enigma_, thanks :)
[08:48] <enigma_> welcome
[08:48] <bloodMuffin> when i installed beryl it has the option of using compiz instead, and now i want to use compiz, but where can i change the options for compiz?
[08:49] <njero> enigma_, I am not sure why it didn't turn up in apt-cache search... odd
[08:49] <Draco_> anyone know if theres a problem with repositories ?
[08:49] <ubuntubeginz> hi guys, when i run Google Eath from the Applications->Internet->Google Earth, anyone else has tried installing Google Earth in Ubuntu...thanks
[08:49] <quarkpup> Draco_:  trying to refresh synaptic's list failed for me as well
[08:49] <vamp1r3> hey what is the nautilus window ?
[08:50] <Draco_> thanks quarkpup  :(
[08:50] <ubuntubeginz> vamp1r3: it is like windows explorer ..
[08:50] <kayde> hi, I REALLY need help to fix my ipod, HOW do I format it? what is the EASIEST way for me to do it? !!I'm a complete noob to Linux!!
[08:50] <Draco_> Linux makes ipods ??
[08:50] <vamp1r3> ubuntubeginz, okay thanks
[08:51] <kitsuneofdoom> kayde: did you install iPod-linux?
[08:51] <njero> kayde: easiest way is install itunes on windows... or a mac... then resync it. Then use gtkpod or songbird from within linux, but don't format in linux
[08:51] <kayde> Draco nope, but windows wont detect it, so im using linux
[08:51] <Ademan> !xen
[08:51] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:51] <ben_> hey does anyone have a version of vmware tools that will run in windows xp?  I can't get networking to work :(
[08:51] <ben_> and only running vmware-player
[08:51] <kayde> njero: erm.. windows wont detect it, thats why im using linux
[08:52] <kayde> kitsuneofdoom: yes, it screwd my ipod, thats why i need to reformat it
[08:54] <jessmon> Hello. I just got the latest dist. upgrade on feisty, but now, when i open terminal I'm thrown back to the login screen?? Any help appreciated...
[08:54] <bloodMuffin> where can i see the options for compiz?
[08:54] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a bunch of zombie processes that won't dissapear. They are mostly sshd and sendmail-mta. What should I do to get rid of them?
[08:54] <jessmon> bloodmuffin:tried beryl-manager?
[08:54] <kayde> HOW do I format a removable drive on linux!!??
[08:55] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, wait, they will be reaped by init provided the parent process eventually dies
[08:55] <jessmon> bloodmuffin:tried beryl-manager?
[08:55] <bloodMuffin> jessmon: do those options carry over to when i use compiz?
[08:55] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: they've been around a while, some are from yesterday
[08:55] <ben_> anyone here have vmware tools for windows?  I can't install it with vmware player!
[08:55] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, parents PID?
[08:55] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: also, their PPID is listed as 1
[08:56] <v3n0m`> help tv tuner nonworking
[08:57] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, the zombies should be reaped eventually by init... if they are not you cant really kill them since they are not really processes.  Rebooting would of course get rid of them...
[08:57] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: someone also said it might indicate someone is hammering my computer
[08:57] <Fivetwentysix> Any sites that run on Ubuntu that have games like Chess, Spades, etc and are really popular?
[08:58] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: which means that probably someone was trying to burteforce SSH?
[08:58] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, move ssh off port 22 if you are worried about that
[08:59] <xt{c}> Fivetwentysix, try yahoo
[08:59] <kayde> r5u
[08:59] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, that cuts down dramatically on bot attacks
[08:59] <kayde> njero: so how do i format it in linux?
[08:59] <robokop> can sb help me with the crosshurd package to install freebsd
[09:00] <bloodMuffin> jessmon: do those options carry over to when i use compiz?
[09:00] <Fivetwentysix> Hmm just realised i needa install flash
[09:00] <njero> kayde: I am not sure... formatting wasn't the problem iirc if you do really bad things like install a bad ipod-linux you may have bricked your ipod... sites I have read said that windows+itunes or a mac should be able to recover it
[09:00] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: the problem is, I'm not sure if my school will firewall other ports or not. Since I'm no longer at school, I'm just closing it off outside my home subnet.
[09:01] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, you could also disable password logins
[09:01] <njero> kayde, the good news is I did that to my ipod and was eventually able to revive it... but windows+itunes was able to see it (following the step by step reset instructions that came with the ipod)
[09:01] <LightPwnyTesting> anyone here use xchat-gnome?
[09:01] <mdious> DBO:  sorry to interrupt...what cuts down dramtically on bot attacks?
[09:01] <ben_> does anyon ehere have vmware-tools for XP?    Again, moving away from password authentication to public keys will most likely mitigate the issue as well
[09:03] <mdious> DBO:  ah gotcha ;)
[09:03] <eddmul> Hallo everyone,
[09:04] <kitsuneofdoom> DBO: ooh. How would I do that?
[09:04] <LightPwnyTesting> so any good recommendations for an irc client on gnome other than xchat?
[09:04] <XMR2F77> good morning, i went from xubuntu to  gnome manually, now i can log in to gnome but i only get a black brown screen, i think i forgot to remove or add something, anybody a clue?
[09:04] <DBO> kitsuneofdoom, lemme see if I can get you a walkthrough
[09:04] <chico``_> LightPwnyTesting: BitchX
[09:04] <doseryder> Can someone help me out with VMWare? I just got VMWare Player through Automatix but apparently I'm asked to load a VMX (i think) file.  Keep my question simple, how do I load WinXP in there? I should have to do with the VMX file that i'm supposed to load I assume
[09:04] <eddmul> I have a question, is it possible to upgrade Eidgy to Feisty by CD ? How ?
[09:04] <pavs> lightpawnytesting:bitchx
[09:05] <LightPwnyTesting> isnt that terminal based chico``_?
[09:05] <DBO> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30709.html  <--- kitsuneofdoom
[09:05] <kitsuneofdoom> eddmul: yeah. THe alt-cd
[09:05] <doseryder> Thx in advance boyz
[09:05] <mdious> PasswordAuthentication no in /etc/ssh/ssh_config ?
[09:05] <chico``_> LightPwnyTesting: Yes
[09:05] <RAOF> !automatix | doseryder
[09:05] <LightPwnyTesting> ... and pavs
[09:05] <pavs> yup
[09:05] <ubotu> doseryder: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:05] <kitsuneofdoom> eddmul: it's listed on the site.
[09:05] <LightPwnyTesting> hrm
[09:05] <CheshireViking> !upgrade | eddmul
[09:05] <ubotu> eddmul: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:06] <njero> !WorksFoMe
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worksfome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <njero> !WorksForMe
[09:06] <Wooombat> Hello guys! How do I save a boot log on startup in case the GUI is not usable?
[09:06] <eddmul> kitsuneoofdoom, could you describe it in details? Thank you
[09:07] <LightPwnyTesting> whats so great about bitchx?
[09:07] <ubuntubeginz> !GoogleEarth
[09:07] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[09:07] <doseryder> RAOF: in my case do i need to reinstall? Also, can you gimme the gist of how I should go about loading WInXP in VMWare?
[09:07] <l3ored> how do i use my windows dlls for wine?
[09:07] <pavs> --[ BitchX-Client-Statistics ] ------------------------------------------
[09:07] <pavs> | Client Version: BitchX-1.1-final 20040326
[09:07] <pavs> | Client Running Since Tue Apr 17 04:55:22 2007
[09:07] <pavs> | Client Uptime: 34d 22h 11m 11s
[09:08] <DBO> LightPwnyTesting, its the only way to swear in this room without people getting mad... pavs, please dont do that again
[09:08] <kayde> njero: I need to make the ipod VISIBLE to windows, it isnt...
[09:08] <pavs> lol
[09:08] <pavs> sorry
[09:08] <chuck____> can a user belong to multiple groups?
[09:08] <mdious> Woombat:  you could do a dmesg > bootup.txt ?
[09:08] <DBO> chuck____, yep
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> chuck____: i dont think so
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> oh you can?
[09:08] <RAOF> doseryder: Your milage may vary, but automatix tends to break systems.  Just be aware, particularly when you upgrade.
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> or do you mean in unix?
[09:08] <LightPwnyTesting> i was thinking with irc servers =P
[09:08] <DBO> chuck____, see the /etc/group file =)
[09:09] <baudthief> I bought a new Samsung SCX-5530FN multifunction printer today, I was told it works well on linux - I inserted the disc, browsed to the Linux directory, and ran ./install.sh from a root prompt, but i get this error: ./install.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[09:09] <Wooombat> mdious - where i supposed to do this?
[09:09] <LightPwnyTesting> dont listen to me, i R stupid
[09:09] <baudthief> any ideas please?
[09:09] <PurpZeY> l3ored: I believe with wine the best way to go about things is to drop the install into wine, or call wine using the location of the install file, then it will install like windows...
[09:09] <PurpZeY> l3ored: That is just my understanding.
[09:09] <Wooombat> mdious - in BusyBox?
[09:09] <eddmul> ok, thank you everyone for helping me, i'll return if i found any trouble...God bless you all
[09:09] <l3ored> which install?
 terminal $ dmesg
[09:09] <DBO> chuck____, to see what groups you are in right now, run the... groups... command
[09:09] <aftertaf> since going to feisty stable... i have no wifi. cant load prism card
[09:09] <chuck____> DBO : ah okay, so the user list is delimited by commas
[09:09] <bezao> i have win at hda and ubuntu at hdb, how do i set a line at boot.ini to see option to boot to win or ubunto when startup?
[09:09] <RAOF> doseryder: As for your actual question... I'm not sure.
[09:10] <aftertaf> can anyone shed light?
[09:10] <Wooombat> XMR2F77 - I can only boot in BusyBox (
[09:10] <chuck____> DBO : so adding a user to another group as adding it to the appropriate line
[09:10] <DBO> chuck____, yep
[09:10] <mdious> Woombat:  I do not know what BusyBox is...what is Busybox...in a terminal like XMR2F77 suggested
[09:10] <XMR2F77> dont know about that sorry.... then ctrl - alt  f1
[09:10] <LightPwnyTesting> so is the cutter driver for broadcom good now or should i stick to wrapping it?
[09:11] <doseryder> RAOF: well, I've been using Ubuntu for 4 months now and I loved it.  Can't remember when the last time I booted into windows but I was told to use automatix2 the day I installed ubuntu.  But anyways, I stop using it.
[09:11] <PurpZeY> l3ored: For whatever program it is...download the install. drop the install in ~/wine and then call wine path
[09:11] <gordonjcp> baudthief: probably you'll find that the disk is mounted "noexec"
[09:11] <gordonjcp> baudthief: try copying the linux folder over to your home directory and running install.sh from there
[09:11] <MrC_> hi there
[09:11] <PurpZeY> l3ored: If you bear with me for one sec I can get you the path.
[09:11] <baudthief> gordonjcp: Thanks for the suggestion, will try that now
[09:11] <CheshireViking> bezao, do you use windows to manage the boot process, or are you using grub? from your question, it sounds like you're using windows and not grub thats normally installed by ubuntu
[09:11] <LightPwnyTesting> i was told automatix is a good starting tool
[09:12] <njero> kayde, I really understand that... my point is I wasn't able to do that from LINUX. everything I read at the time said that the only way to do it was through windows or mac. If you can't do the itunes restore (which can work even when windows doesn't "see" the device) then you may be in bad shape. Only other suggestion is to find a friend with a mac. Of course I could totally be wrong... but I spent days trying to find how to repair it
[09:12] <CaptainMorgan> can someone please tell me which is a good startup script to place something like "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace" in? I tried /etc/rc.local as someone suggested the other day, but it does not work
[09:12] <njero> from linux and couldn't find that. That is all I am saying...
[09:12] <Wooombat> mdious - while booting my root file system is failed to be mounted and i get into a BusyBox - minimal CLI
[09:12] <XMR2F77> dmesg | grep <what ever u look for>
[09:12] <LightPwnyTesting> i thought the windows boot loader didnt have linux built in
[09:12] <kayde> njero: thanks mate, im trying annother linux ipod-restorer..
[09:12] <CheshireViking> !grub | bezao
[09:12] <kuru> not related to Ubuntu or linux, but I don't know where else to ask -- when mtr shows that somewhere along the line, there are some serious packet losses on the way to your hosted server
[09:12] <ubotu> bezao: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:12] <kuru> who do you talk to?
[09:13] <kuru> The ISP says not my problem
[09:13] <kuru> the hosting provider says not my problem
[09:13] <PurpZeY> l3ored: You did winecfg?
[09:13] <kuru> and I'm not in a position to talk to Level3 London or swhatever it is
[09:13] <mdious> Woombat:  I just looked at http://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html and it looks like you can use dmesg
[09:13] <njero> kayde, I am eager to know if you get it working...
[09:13] <LightPwnyTesting> lol grub should be the default boot manager for everything
[09:13] <mdious> Wooombat:  I just looked at http://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html and it looks like you can use dmesg
[09:13] <kuru> Since I'm not an ISP and I'm not a hosting provider
[09:13] <mdious> sorry double posting...
[09:13] <bezao> how do i boot ubuntu from boot.ini of winxp?
[09:14] <ganes> hiplz a help
[09:14] <Wooombat> mdious - it says "command ton found"
[09:14] <bezao> sorry, i saw now ubotu
[09:14] <MrC_> does anyone knows which kinda of archive manager can i open .RAR files?
[09:14] <neutralrobotboy> i have 2 hard drives on this computer -- hda and sda (ide and sata). i want to install ubuntu on the ide drive, but have it boot from the sata drive. the default boot location is "hd0". do i want to change it then to "sd0"?
[09:14] <chuck____> I have my apache docroot with my linux login being the owner and the group is www-data... now that I've added my login to the www-data group, when I create a new file in that directory, will the file belong to chuck.chuck or chuck.www-data?
[09:14] <krinns> hi all
[09:14] <jessmon_> hello, when i try go to terminal in feisty, I get kicked back to the login screen - any ideas?
[09:14] <Grein> I've got a 2.8ghz core 2 duo with 2gb ram. Can I run Ubuntu within WinXP using VMware and not have it fail at life?
[09:14] <ganes> hi how to change the kernel version
[09:14] <krinns> when i install ubuntu bapper its going to blank after 50% on install
[09:14] <chuck____> nevermind, it doesn't work like that
[09:14] <krinns> any idea
[09:14] <krinns> its Inter server board
[09:14] <krinns> intel
[09:15] <njero> bezao, it is a pain... did you install windows after ubuntu?
[09:15] <bezao> njero no, i did  xp then ubuntu
[09:15] <mdious> Wooombat:  could you just look at /var/log/syslog ?
[09:15] <cbs> lol, i have a newb question...how do I unmount folders in /media?
[09:15] <njero> bezao, and it is really looking at boot.ini?
[09:15] <kitsuneofdoom> cbs: sudo umount /media/hda1
[09:15] <kitsuneofdoom> or whatever
[09:15] <robokop> cbs: sudo umount /media/folder
[09:15] <bezao> but i had some problens with hal.dll of winxp, so i need to erase grub
[09:15] <cbs> OH! umount
[09:15] <kitt2> Hi all: I am Using Ubuntu 7.04 from few days.. The first time i booted after installation i got the sound card recognized.. but after restart, i was not getting any sound.. I have a Crystal CS 4281 sound card..
[09:16] <CheshireViking> !grub > bezao, See the private message from ubotu for details on how to restore grub
[09:16] <njero> bezao, if you can, just use grub... change your bios to point at your ubuntu drive
[09:16] <njero> oh
[09:16] <chuck____> Does anyone know how this can be done?  to automatically set new files in a certain directory to belong to a certain group?  I've chowned the directory, but whenever I make a new file it belongs to my linux login chuck.chuck instead of chuck.www-data (www-data is the group that owns the dir)
[09:16] <Wooombat> mdious - Yes i can! from the live cd
[09:16] <kitt2> what do i d o now???
[09:16] <cbs> not uNmount
[09:16] <PurpZeY> !sound
[09:16] <kayde> njero: ok :) here goes...
[09:16] <bezao> thaqnks CheshireViking
[09:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:16] <PurpZeY> Kitt2: See Above.
[09:16] <MrC_> Bezao i have sended you a pvt message
[09:17] <kitt2> PurpZeY: will try and get back to you.. thanks
[09:17] <cbs> how do I display all currently mounted devices?
[09:17] <cbs> and how do I remove the folders in /media?
[09:17] <bezao> MrC_ i did not got it
[09:17] <Knoeki> what was the name of the general ubuntu chat channel?
[09:17] <mdious> Wooombat:  Good thinking, hope you sort out your problem :(
[09:17] <ganes> hi how to change the kernel for live cd
[09:17] <DBO> cbs, to display all mounted devices... type "mount" in a terminal
[09:18] <CheshireViking> !offtopic | Knoeki
[09:18] <ubotu> Knoeki: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:18] <Knoeki> cheers mate ^_^
[09:18] <Wooombat> mdious - actualy the syze of syslog is 0 bytes (
[09:18] <v3n0m`> help tv tuner nonworking
[09:18] <ganes> plz answer me
[09:18] <chuck____> Is that even possible to automatically set new files to be owned by a certain group instead of the user who created it?
[09:18] <DBO> cbs, to remove folders in media, first check to make sure they arent already mountpoints for anything... if they aren't, sudo rm -rf /media/foldername
[09:18] <ganes> how to change the kernel for live
[09:18] <PurpZeY> There any sort of equivalent of AnyDVD for Ubuntu?
[09:18] <cbs> ty DBO
[09:19] <thespy> hey all
[09:19] <MrC_> Bezao,fala
[09:19] <MrC_>  eu acho que o ubuntu nao funciona direito ao lado do Windows,o problema 'e con a particao de memoria
[09:19] <mdious> Woombat:  what error do you get when trying to boot normally?  can you boot using recovery mode?
[09:19] <Wooombat> mdious - the log is empty because the kernel cant mount the root fs
[09:19] <thespy> i'm wondering how do i upgrade from dapper to feisty with a cd?
[09:19] <thespy> without removing my settings...
[09:19] <sahil> what settings?
[09:20] <aftertaf> any wifi experts around???
[09:20] <thespy> just general config, wallpaper, files..
[09:20] <bezao> the problem is that, i installed ubuntu, then i got problems to boot xp, then i erase boot, and maked mbr again, so i booted xp, but now i cant boot, linux(ubuntu) how i boot on it to set a floppyboot?
[09:21] <Wooombat> mdious - it says something like that "modprobe - abnormal exit" and when we use verbose boot it says "waiting for root folesytem" and then i get into Busybox
[09:21] <shimete> does anyone run songbird
[09:21] <v3n0m`> I need help getting my tv tuner to work >
[09:21] <ganes>  how to change the kernel for live
[09:21] <mdious> bezao:  could you boot ubuntu from live cd and run update-grub to redo your um...wait are you even using grub?
[09:21] <mdious> Wooombat:  you don't know what module it is trying to load do you?
[09:21] <ganes> preply plz
[09:21] <PurpZeY> mdious: I think he said he got rid of grub.
[09:21] <ganes> reply plz
[09:21] <Wooombat> mdious  - i dont.
[09:22] <MrC_> No,but i would to run Songbird too,but i don't have a clue how to install it.SHIMETE
[09:22] <bezao> mdious nop, i'm using mbr
[09:22] <mdious> PurpZey:  sorry to interrupt without reading everything properly :P
[09:22] <thespy> i run sonbird in windoze
[09:22] <mdious> bezao:  you handle dual booting with just your mbr?
[09:22] <Wooombat> mdious - ihave sis 650 chipset and P4 on the laptop
[09:22] <doseryder> Is WMWare Player what i need to load for example Windows XP?
[09:22] <PurpZeY> mdious: You're helping a lot of people...Best I can do is help you
[09:22] <bezao> mdious i want do that, but i got problem
[09:22] <bezao> lol
[09:22] <MrC_> how did you install it THESPY
[09:22] <MrC_> ?
[09:23] <mdious> PurpZey:  hehe, I'm not helping anyone...I guess it is sort of a good thing that it looks like it :P
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> can someone please tell me which is a good startup script to place something like "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace" in? I tried /etc/rc.local as someone suggested the other day, but it does not work
[09:23] <thespy> from a cd originally
[09:23] <bezao> give me a link to re-install grub,
[09:23] <bezao> pls
[09:23] <krinns> CheshireViking can u send me how i restore grub
[09:23] <MrC_> have you got it from synaptic or super user manager?THESPY
[09:23] <CheshireViking> !grub > krinns
[09:23] <mdious> Wooombat:  i have no idea...maybe your HD chipset thingo is not supported...or you need to build a custom kernel with support for your chipset/drivers etc...I really don't know sorry, I am extreme newbie!
[09:23] <Wooombat> mdious - so do i
[09:23] <shimete> MrC_, you can run it by just downloading the file off the website but ubuntu doesn't register it as a proper application in the application menu, nor does it see it as a package in the package manager...
[09:24] <thespy> MrC: i dont have a clue
[09:24] <Wooombat> mdious - BUT! it DO boot from Live CD.....
[09:24] <krinns> yes
[09:24] <krinns> have installed ubuntu then windoes
[09:24] <krinns> now windows cant load
[09:25] <mdious> Wooombat:  can you see your HD when you boot from the live cd?  One thing I found with gentoo and ubuntu on my testing server that lead me to find I did not have the right support for my sata drive was that I couldn't actually see the drive when going to install it...but ah...you have already installed
[09:25] <bezao> krinns hal.dll?
[09:25] <Wooombat> mdious - yes i can see it from live cd. but syslog is empty
[09:26] <krinns> what
[09:27] <thespy> lots of questions, no solutions >_<
[09:27] <bezao> how to reinstall grub?
[09:27] <PurpZeY> bezao: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438262&highlight=hal.dll
[09:27] <thespy> meh, no
[09:27] <albertmk> I think that ppl are not expert enough
[09:27] <Enverex> I have an annoying round robin issue on my laptop. The Feisty installer didn't install the ATi binary drivers when it installed so X doesn't start. It doesn't connect to my WiFi because it uses WPA so I need to use network manager to connect to it to download the ATi drivers, but I can't get to network manager because I can't start X so I can't download the ATi drivers... see the issue? :/
[09:27] <aeon17x> Where can I find a list of shortcut keys for Ubuntu's desktop effects?
[09:28] <thespy> and win key + * doesn't work with anything
[09:28] <PurpZeY> bezao: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449841&highlight=hal.dll -- More solutions
[09:28] <albertmk> I need a help
[09:28] <RAOF> Enverex: You *should* be able to use either the "ati" or "vesa" drivers to get X working.
[09:28] <Enverex> RAOF: ATi is only for things up to x850 and vesa for some reason just says "No screens found"
[09:29] <RAOF> Enverex: Failing that, you can (theoretically) use wpa_supplicant to connect to your WiFi from the CLI
[09:29] <mdious> Wooombat:  has this happened before on the laptop?
[09:29] <PurpZeY> !ask | albertmk
[09:29] <ubotu> albertmk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:29] <albertmk> I am having problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21945/
[09:29] <RAOF> Enverex: Only for 3D up to x850.  It *should* do 2D higher than that.  Sucks to be vesa, though.
[09:29] <Wooombat> mdious - in recovery mode i see it tries to boot pata_sis module and then modprobe exits abnormally
[09:29] <jjido> Hi All
[09:30] <Wooombat> mdious - the install is fresh
[09:30] <Wooombat> mdious - im a windoze user
[09:30] <v3n0m`> how are you on irc Enverex?
[09:30] <chuck____> In what directory do I add a script or symlink to start pure-ftpd as part of the normal boot/startup process?  /etc/init.d?
[09:30] <mdious> Wooombat:  check this link and see if it helps:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/107774
[09:30] <albertmk> I wish I knew why there are like 100 ppl here and only 3 or 4 ppl help users
[09:31] <CheshireViking> !upgrade > thespy, have a look at uboto's private message, maybe that will help, but I'm not sure if you can upgrade from a live cd, I thought it was only from the alternate cd
[09:31] <Grein> We're here to observe and pick up stuff so we can help people in the future.
[09:31] <Wooombat> mdious - ill try
[09:31] <mdious> albertmk:  i wish I knew why I try to help people when clearly I have no idea what the hell i'm doing lol...guess i'm just keen from some chit-chat/company lol
[09:31] <mdious> Woombat:  hope it helps...sorry i can't help more, wish i knew what i was doing :P
[09:32] <albertmk> mdious: I think 50% ppl here is sleeping
[09:32] <albertmk> -_-
[09:32] <jjido> I am trying to upgrade to feisty on the command-line, I ran cdromupgrade to extract the archive, then it errors (gksu fails) and I did: sudo ./feisty -c $PWD --frontend DistUpgradeViewText
[09:32] <Wooombat> mdious - ok thanks a lot
[09:32] <thespy> thanks CheshireViking
[09:32] <albertmk> Can anyone help me? I am having problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21945/
[09:33] <jjido> TypeError: askYesNoQuestion() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given)
[09:33] <soloso> I have a problem with X, ATI RAGE IIC card and Samsung SyncMaster 914V monitor... manually configured ranges for monitor but I'm still not getting 1280x1024 option
[09:33] <RAOF> thespy: You *can't*.  You *have* to go through Edgy.  So, you could either install Feisty over the top of your Dapper install (which will overwrite everything, unless you have your /home on a separate partition)
[09:33] <tarelerulz> Does  Ubuntu , have a wireless net finder tool by default
[09:33] <FP> Buongiorno a Tutti
[09:33] <mzuverink> Might anyone know if it is possible to put the trash bin in avant-window-navigator?
[09:34] <RAOF> thespy: Or you can additionally download the Edgy (6.10) *alternate* install CD, and use that to upgrade Dapper->Edgy and then the alternate Feisty CD to upgrade Edgy -> Feisty
[09:34] <thespy> RAOF oh crap, i meant edgy, not dapper
[09:34] <varka> soloso: please paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste an post the link to the generated page here
[09:34] <jjido> RAOF: I have trouble with the alternate install CD
[09:35] <RAOF> thespy: Heh.  In that case, if you've got the Alternate CD, it should *ask* you whether or not you want to upgrade when you put it in.  If you've got the desktop CD, you can't upgrade from it (because it doesn't have the pacakges on it, just the unpacked filesystem)
[09:35] <RAOF> jjido: "trouble" is not something I can help with :). Just ask your question.
[09:36] <soloso> varka: will do
[09:36] <jjido> I am trying to install Feisty from the command-line, I get an error -- TypeError: askYesNoQuestion() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given)
[09:36] <jack_deltrino> How do I do what dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9 > Packages.gz does with apt-ftparchive? If you don't know what dpkg-scanpackages does, then you most likely won't know how to help me.
[09:36] <varka> tarelerulz: yesterday you asked for an yahoo messenger client with webcam and voice-support: have a look at GYach Enhanced
[09:36] <thespy> oh alright
[09:36] <jjido> I did: sudo ./feisty -c $PWD --frontend DistUpgradeViewText
[09:37] <tarelerulz> Varka, I looked into that and I have never seen to get it installed right.
[09:37] <doseryder> I was told that I need WMWare to load Windows XP in linux  and I just installed WMWare Player.  I'm not sure if I
[09:37] <RAOF> jjido: Where did you do that?  I've never seen that set of commands before.
[09:37] <MrC_> Could anyone help with the installation of realplayer?
[09:37] <Libere> thespy: Yes, except that the end result of that is that you have vista.  *shudder*
[09:38] <doseryder> Im not sure how to get this to work, can someone give me the gist of it?
[09:38] <jjido> RAOF: I looked inside the cdromupgrade script
[09:38] <MrC_> i am trying to install it but i am getting this errors root@charlles-laptop:~# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[09:38] <MrC_> -su: deb: command not found
[09:38] <MrC_> root@charlles-laptop:~# sudo apt-get realplayer deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[09:38] <MrC_> E: Invalid operation realplayer
[09:38] <MrC_> root@charlles-laptop:~# sudo apt-get install realplayer
[09:38] <MrC_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:38] <MrC_> Building dependency tree
[09:38] <MrC_> Reading state information... Done
[09:38] <MrC_> Package realplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:38] <MrC_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:38] <tarelerulz> Kopete seem to be the only one I have seen that is well supported and easy to install .
[09:38] <MrC_> is only available from another source
[09:38] <CheshireViking> !paste
[09:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <MrC_> E: Package realplayer has no installation candidate
[09:39] <RAOF> jjido: As far as I know, upgrade-manager is not supported except from the GUI.   I would really like the text-based installer (low memory)
[09:40] <Enverex> jjido: That is text based
[09:41] <baudthief> how do you set bash as the default command to execute .sh files?
[09:41] <mdious> Wooombat:  was that link any help...I just googled for "modprobe exits abnormally pata_sis"...maybe that can help you more...sorry for not helping more, trying to get some job applications underway since I am not unemployed hehe
[09:41] <RAOF> jjido: I didn't know there *was* a text-based installer, quite frankly.
[09:42] <soloso> varka: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/10950/
[09:42] <RAOF> jjido: And that error is either a bug (that you'll need some Python knowledge to fix) or something that the devs don't care about, becasue it's not meant to work.
[09:42] <ioka||> how can i install ubuntu without booting to live cd ?
[09:42] <RAOF> ioka||: By downloading the Alternate CD.
[09:42] <Myrtti> download and burn alternative install cd
[09:42] <robokop> baudthief: look if the file starts with #! /usr/bin/bash
[09:42] <ioka||> thanks
[09:43] <mdious> ioka | |:  you can just boot the cd and choose to install in text mode...I think...but alternative install cd sounds better...
[09:43] <varka> soloso: your xorg.conf looks correct, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[09:43] <CheshireViking> !installing > ioka||, see the private message from uboto, maybe that link will help
[09:43] <soloso> just a sec
[09:43] <Jack31> is there a way to add a shortcut like ctrl +k or ctrl +c to starta console?
[09:44] <Jack31> well i guess not ctrl c
[09:44] <Jack31> but ctrl k
[09:44] <mdious> quick noob question, if I install say...debian, gentoo whatever...on another partition I already have setup...don't install a bootloader during those installs, then boot ubuntu and run update-grub...will that add the entries for debian/gentoo to menu.lst?
[09:44] <varka> Jack31: gconf-editor   apps/metacity/global_keybinds
[09:44] <soloso> varka: something in particular to look for?
[09:45] <jjido> RAOF: Ok I will take it as a bug, maybe the developers will help me.
[09:45] <Jack31> varka, does that work for kde also?
[09:45] <PurpZeY> mdious: Not that I know what I'm talking about, but it seems like grub is designed to work like that.
[09:45] <varka> Jack31: no, but you have to aks somebody else for the kde solution
[09:45] <RAOF> jjido: I'd try to find some command-line upgrade stuff on the ubuntu-wiki, and then perhaps file a bug against the update-manager thingy
[09:45] <cuco> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 using debootstrap and need some help
[09:46] <vamp1r3> how do u check kernel version ?
[09:46] <MrC_> does anyone knows how to install a .bin file/program?
[09:46] <PurpZeY> !ask | cuco
[09:46] <ubotu> cuco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:46] <Biohazard> hi
[09:46] <Enverex> MrC_: Just run it
[09:46] <Jack31> !ask | ubotu
[09:46] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:46] <Jack31> :)
[09:46] <vamp1r3> MrC, you have to right click and under permisson set it to auto execute
[09:47] <varka> soloso: you can start with looking at WW or EE started lines by running cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep WW or EE
[09:47] <mdious> PurpZey:  Thanks, I set up a few partitions when I set my laptop up again...it said in the man page that that is what is suppose to happen, but haven't tried it so thought I would ask to see if anyone else has used it.  Thanks for your help!
[09:47] <soloso> varka: I see a couple of 1280x1024 (insufficient memory for mode)
[09:47] <soloso> I was running this same set up with RH in 1280x1024 mode
[09:48] <varka> soloso: ok, then your graphics adapter isnt capable of that resuliton because of too few memory
[09:48] <jack_deltrino> cat and grep? *shudder*
[09:48] <IronMaiden> hello,  can i remove xscreensaver?
[09:48] <PurpZeY> mdious: I think you and I are in the same position...know enough to help with small problems...but not know enough to be particularly helpful...hehehe
[09:48] <MrC_> ok thcx vamp1r3
[09:49] <mdious> PurpZey:  very true, I should just keep quiet :P
[09:49] <varka> jack_deltrino: im not that kind of crack, so tell me: what is a better command to suggest?
[09:49] <jack_deltrino> varka: Just grep...
[09:49] <jack_deltrino> varka: cat piping to grep is wasteful.
[09:49] <cuco> the new machine boots up, but "/" is mounted RO on boots, and is not shows in "df", any ideas?
[09:49] <cuco> vamp1r3: uname -a
[09:50] <varka> jack_deltrino: i see, thx
[09:50] <cuco> PurpZeY: nice, but again, read my last message
[09:50] <cuco> the new machine boots up, but "/" is mounted RO on boots, and is not shows in "df", any ideas?
[09:51] <Enverex> Are the FGLRX drivers on the Feisty install CD itself? (as it has a mini-repo on it)
[09:51] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: What do you mean by cat piping? That different from running a command say ls | grep var ?
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> varka: You also lost me on the idiom by the way. "not that kind of crack" ?
[09:51] <soloso> varka: thanks for the pointer
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: That's different
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: cat is dumping information which grep would have processed anyway.
[09:51] <Frogzoo> Enverex: why not take a look at the cd?
[09:51] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: grep'ing files != ls | grep
[09:52] <Enverex> Frogzoo: Because I'm trying to limit movement right now, heh
[09:52] <mdious> I'm off, cya everyone, thanks for your help - sorry I could not return the favour...one day!
[09:52] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: Ok, so you are saying it's just generally inefficient to just grep something without anyone command?
[09:53] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: I am just curious as to what you were saying was a poor thing to do.
[09:53] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: Not sure what you mean by that, but if you see any program reading information from a file and then passing it to grep is a poor thing to do.
[09:53] <varka> jack_deltrino: the idiom was a poor english atempt to tell you about my mediorce linux skills ;)
[09:53] <jack_deltrino> PurpZeY: grep's purpose is to read through the file
[09:54] <PurpZeY> jack_deltrino: Ok I see. thanks.
[09:54] <Enverex> Frogzoo... I also seem to have lost the CD :/
[09:56] <puntux> how to make gnome terminal tabbable (open several terminals as tabs within the same terminal)
[09:56] <melchior> puntux, shift-control-t
[09:56] <MrC_> So,now where should put those files and how to create/add(RealPlayer) it to the menu?Enverex
[09:56] <Enverex> Does anyone know if the fglrx packages are actually included on the Feisty CD?
[09:56] <crdlb> Enverex: I'm pretty sure they aren't
[09:57] <crdlb> I remember having to download nvidia-glx
[09:57] <puntux> melter: where is the option that I can set it to be a permanent default behavior?
[09:58] <MrC_> I just have extracted the RealPlayer files,now where should i place it,and how can i add/create a shortcut on desktop?
[09:58] <CheshireViking> Enverex, they might be included, but i'm not certain, the other week I installed on a laptop (admittedly using the alternate cd) and it installed fglrx drivers before any updates were downloaded
[09:59] <the_giver> damn intel: http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/21/negroponte-intel-should-be-ashamed-of-itself/   we need to start boycotting them or do smoething about this.. cuz that is not cool
[09:59] <Libere> mrC_: System>Preferences>Main Menu>  New Item
[09:59] <melchior> puntux, just create them as you need them
[10:00] <MrC_> ok ,but what about the files,i mean the ones that i have extrected to make RealPlayer to work
[10:00] <MrC_> Libere
[10:01] <HyperDevil> I cannot seem to install wine, i have all the sources but i cannot find the package?
[10:01] <Flannel> HyperDevil: You need to enable universe
[10:01] <HyperDevil> Flannel: that is enabled
[10:01] <Libere> MrC_: Stash them in a folder labelled realplayer along with your other applications.
[10:02] <Flannel> HyperDevil: How are you trying to install?
[10:02] <HyperDevil> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:02] <HyperDevil> and with Synaptocs
[10:02] <HyperDevil> Synaptic
[10:02] <Flannel> HyperDevil: have you updated your package cache after enabling universe?
[10:02] <HyperDevil> I have not updated anything, it was on by default
[10:02] <Flannel> HyperDevil: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[10:03] <HyperDevil> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe
[10:03] <HyperDevil> The package aint there
[10:03] <bytee> I run Feisty Fawn, and I'm wondering how I can install Seamonkey? a simple apt-cache search shows nothing... is it renamed to something else? (this is Mozilla Seamonkey I'm referring to)
[10:04] <Enverex> bytee It's not in the repos
[10:04] <Flannel> HyperDevil: yes it is. I'm looking at it right now.
[10:04] <bytee> Enverex: is there a reason why this is the case? Lack of a maintainer or some other reason?
[10:05] <HyperDevil> Flannel: Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:05] <Flannel> bytee: seamonkey will be in gutsy, before (in edgy) it was still mozilla-suite.
[10:06] <Flannel> HyperDevil: again: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine`
[10:06] <heroin> U think it be ok to a counter strike source howto to the wiki?
[10:06] <MrC_> on which file of File System should place them?Lebere
[10:06] <deCon> how do i install a file from a .tar.gz that i download?
[10:06] <HyperDevil> Flannel: i have dont a update, no success same problem
[10:06] <bytee> Flannel: ok. but there's no "reason"?
[10:06] <levon> how do i change my color resolution
[10:06] <deCon> the easiest way
[10:06] <HyperDevil> done
[10:06] <Flannel> bytee: I don't know why, but Im sure theres some reason.
[10:06] <deCon> heroin: what about CSS??? I've been wondering about installing it over on my linux partition
[10:06] <Flannel> HyperDevil: pastebin your sources.list
[10:06] <heroin> deCon: a server for css and half life
[10:07] <bytee> Flannel: heh, thanks. i'll keep my search alive to see why then. thanks
[10:07] <Flannel> bytee: you might ask in #ubuntu-motu
[10:07] <deCon> how do i install something from a downloaded file?
[10:07] <heroin> deCon: so the server part not the client part :)
[10:07] <levon> does anyone know how to change the color resolution? please
[10:08] <deCon> heroin: gotcha...does CSS run alright in steam?
[10:08] <deCon> heroin: rather...in ubuntu?
[10:08] <frying_fish> deCon, it can sometimes work under wine
[10:08] <MrC_> does anyone knows where to place the files from RealPlayer that i just extracted.I mean on the File System
[10:08] <deCon> Flannel: how do i install something from a tar.gz that I have downloaded?
[10:08] <frying_fish> but, seomtimes not.
[10:08] <heroin> deCon: well i hate CSS but 1.6 runs like a demon :)
[10:09] <frying_fish> deCon, tar xf FILE.tar.gz  then go into the dir it makes and see what it says
[10:09] <Flannel> deCon: That depends on what's in the archive; assuming it's source....
[10:09] <Flannel> !compile | deCon
[10:09] <MrC_> or where does the applications files goes on theFile System
[10:09] <ubotu> deCon: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:09] <deCon> Flannel: thanks!
[10:09] <levon> flannel do you know how to change the color resolution in ubunut?
[10:09] <mrcreativity> can some one upplease help me with auto logging into the keyring manager on start
[10:09] <levon> *ubuntu
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, hi
[10:10] <Flannel> MrC_: what's the executable?  type "which real[tab] [tab] " and it should autocomplete the executable name. Then the which command will tell you where it is
[10:10] <Enverex> bytee No idea
[10:10] <Flannel> mrcreativity: I believe "libpam-keyring" will do that
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, can i pm you?
[10:11] <dchky> I wonder what elvis would think.
[10:11] <ko12upt> aright, can anyone please help me im trying to adjust my color resolution and i cant find the pannel to to it in
[10:11] <Frogzoo> mrcreativity: there's forum posts on it - you need to install a pam module
[10:11] <mrcreativity> im did that, i cant seem to find the page that has the information
[10:12] <Flannel> mrcreativity: can't find what?
[10:12] <heroin> Anyway shall i add a css server howto to the wiki?
[10:12] <mrcreativity> the post
[10:13] <mrcreativity> that shows how to configure
[10:13] <dchky> Why do you need to change the colour depth in X ko12upt
[10:13] <anathematic> what version kernal is ubuntu 7.04 running?
[10:13] <ko12upt> im not sure if its using the right depth
[10:13] <crdlb> anathematic: 2.6.20
[10:13] <dchky> have you updated it ever anathematic
[10:13] <anathematic> crdlb:  thank you
[10:13] <Bibagi> how to setup pppoe in ubuntu ?????????????????
[10:13] <ko12upt> doesnt look right it should be 16 million colors but doesnt look like it
[10:14] <dchky> type xdpyinfo | less in a shell window and read the first 15 or so lines
[10:14] <Flannel> mrcreativity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager#head-691ab1f191007294d3bf039bd627131628b40410
[10:14] <Flannel> mrcreativity: right above that heading.
[10:14] <MrC_> Flannel  already did it but i just don't know where to place the files now,on which file of the File System should i place it?
[10:14] <MrC_>  I have extracted them to the desktop,so i need to place the somewhere(like in Windows for ex.C:/Program Files/xxx
[10:14] <ko12upt> i just enabled my nvidia card too so thats working fine but im just curious on the color depth
[10:14] <ko12upt> thanis
[10:15] <mrcreativity> thank you
[10:15] <crdlb> !pppoe | Bibagi
[10:15] <ubotu> Bibagi: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:15] <crdlb> and if that doesn't work, you could always get a router :P
[10:15] <dchky> xdpyinfo | awk /depth\ of/ - if it says 24 then you have 32bit color
[10:16] <Flannel> MrC_: ah, I understand.  Uh, actually, before you do that.  There's a realplayer package in canonicals repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[10:16] <ko12upt> okay 32 bits per bixle min key code is 8 and max is 255
[10:16] <ko12upt> *pixel
[10:17] <Ronald|Laptop> Anybody know about debugging something postfix+sasl on feisty (migrating it from gentoo where it works) ?
[10:17] <ziroday> have some trouble with truecrypt and forcefield any help?
[10:17] <Bibagi> crdlb : i tried that one.. but that does't work :S
[10:17] <dchky> what needs debugging?
[10:17] <dchky> postfix or sasl?
[10:18] <ko12upt> dcky how do i change the depth? its not right
[10:18] <Ronald|Laptop> warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database - SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed: authentication failure
[10:18] <Ronald|Laptop> obviously the data is there in SQL :P
[10:18] <dchky> what is your current depth? ko12upt ?
[10:18] <dchky> type this: xdpyinfo | awk /depth\ of/ then tell me what it says
[10:18] <dchky> only if you want to though...
[10:18] <ubuntubeginz> hi guys, although the apt and synaptic manager are the best way to install programs,,,however i want to try .deb and source installtions...anyone can recommend some simple programs which fall into this category... cheers
[10:19] <ko12upt> 32 bites
[10:19] <Enverex> ubuntubeginz The point of source is that there is no "program" to do it for you
[10:19] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: package managers use .deb files.  They just do the downloading/installing in one step
[10:19] <dchky> 32 planes? That's as good as it gets ko12upt
[10:19] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: to install a deb you just have to save it somewhere then double click on it
[10:20] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: so i take sasl :)
[10:20] <dchky> Sorry Ronald|Laptop yup, i had that problem a while back, it is sasl
[10:20] <ubuntubeginz> i mean software which hasnt been packaged for ubuntu yet...
[10:20] <ko12upt> aw wait 24 planes
[10:20] <dchky> I'm thinking what I did to fix it.
[10:20] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: perhaps you remember what you did ;)
[10:20] <ubuntubeginz> so they exisitng in the deb or source format...
[10:20] <ko12upt> dchky its only 24 planes
[10:21] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: to convert a .rpm you can use alien but installing from source is a pain
[10:21] <dchky> 24 planes = 32 bits ko12upt - your colour depth is at maximum.
[10:21] <leatherpantz> fuck this room is busy..
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | leatherpantz
[10:21] <ubotu> leatherpantz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:21] <leatherpantz> alright
[10:22] <leatherpantz> correction:
[10:22] <ko12upt> dchky there isnt a panel that i could check out?
[10:22] <Ronald|Laptop> dhorner: /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21950/
[10:22] <leatherpantz> blimey, this room's packed!
[10:22] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: sorry
[10:22] <ko12upt> its alrigh thanks for the help dchky
[10:22] <Madpilot> leatherpantz, 1100 is pretty typical for #ubuntu
[10:23] <chuck____> I want to create a new user with a password but the -p option for the useradd command only accepts an already-encrypted password using crypt()... how do I go about getting this encrypted password?  i tried looking for a man page for crypt but it doesn't exist
[10:23] <dchky> ko12upt,  not sure sorry, I just tweak the config files manually.
[10:23] <zaggynl> ~1250 lately
[10:23] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: i am asking this qn..cos i am reading the Ubuntu hacks book...and they were explaining how other modes of installing programms are available..and I wanted to try and thus asked for some recommendations..
[10:23] <dchky> Welcome, sorry, I'm not at the right computer here, it's offline.
[10:24] <leatherpantz> i take it this is Not the right channel to talk about, i dont know, leather clothes
[10:24] <leatherpantz> i mean.. room.
[10:24] <leatherpantz> blimey..
[10:24] <chuck____> Where the hell is this crypt function?
[10:24] <dchky> chuck____, why don't you just do adduser, then passwd username
[10:24] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: sorry the three main formats are source (a pain), .deb and .rpm
[10:24] <chuck____> what does that do?
[10:24] <dchky> adds a user to the system, then changes the password for that user.
[10:24] <chuck____> can you be a little more specific on the syntax of what I have to do
[10:24] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: maybe i dont quite understand what youre looking for??
[10:24] <dchky> ok, open a terminal window
[10:24] <chuck____> passwd username password?
[10:25] <dchky> type adduser
[10:25] <chuck____> passwd username password?
[10:25] <chuck____> Is all I need to know
[10:25] <mrgenixus> is there a way to remove the ubuntu branding from the distubution (post-install)
[10:25] <dchky> once the user has been added to the system, type password username <- replace the word username with the name you just added, then hit enter
[10:25] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: can give me some softwares Examples which exist in these 3 formats... so i can install them and learn the other ways of installing stuff
[10:25] <mrgenixus> all the logos and stufff...
[10:25] <dchky> it'll ask you to type a password for that user,
[10:25] <chuck____> oh okay
[10:25] <dchky> type passwd --help
[10:25] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: U catch wat i am saying now..
[10:25] <Ax3> "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem."
[10:26] <ziroday> ubuntubeginz: yea do you want the same package or are diff packages okay?
[10:26] <Ax3> anyone get this problem using vmware?
[10:26] <mrgenixus> Ax3: sounds serious
[10:26] <chuck____> dchky : is there a difference between adduser and useradd or are they analagous
[10:26] <dchky> I wonder why it's called bonobo
[10:26] <dchky> sorry, I might have messed up, it's adduser
[10:26] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: you meant to tell me you cannot reach your machine to look at sasl :)?
[10:26] <Ax3> using vmware, just started up 7.04 for the first time, and got that error
[10:26] <dchky> useradd should not be on the system.
[10:27] <ubuntubeginz> ziroday: just some simple softwares...names or sumtin...so i can dl them and try....
[10:27] <dchky> Sorry Ronald|Laptop, it's in the office over the road, and I unplugged it about an hour ago. Some kind of murphy's law I guess.
[10:27] <chuck____> dchky : ? why not?  It appears to have the same functionality as adduser
[10:27] <dchky> chuck____, it's probably aliased, I suspect it's an identical command.
[10:27] <leatherpantz> ok... let's... make the discussion a bit more interesting
[10:27] <Ronald|Laptop> dchky: guess so, i'm sure someone among the 1100 here must know though ;)
[10:27] <leatherpantz> Macs RUUUULE
[10:27] <leatherpantz> right?
[10:27] <chuck____> dchky : aye that's what i asked :<
[10:27] <dchky> <-- slow today.
[10:28] <leatherpantz> oh wow, like, 3 people left
[10:28] <leatherpantz> that sentence is magic
[10:28] <compengi> !de
[10:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:28] <dchky> what do macs rule?
[10:29] <ubuntubeginz> leatherpantz: pls dont spam in this channel
[10:29] <Fivetwentysix> Macs rule apple
[10:29] <Fivetwentysix> lol
[10:29] <Ronald|Laptop> So anyone else want to have a go at a Sasl problem (migrating setup from gentoo to feisty)
[10:29] <MrC_> thx Flannel good link
[10:29] <stow_> so i'm having a problem with samba. any help available?
[10:30] <Frogzoo> !anyone
[10:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:31] <dchky> It's been like that since 1992 ubotu
[10:31] <stow_> and it's also why i didn't aske that question...
[10:31] <stow_> take note i asked if help was available, not "is anyone else having" my problem
[10:32] <stow_> and it appears that there isn't any help available at 3:30 am.
[10:32] <stow_> wtf is wrong with you people. sleep is for the weak.
[10:32] <ubuntubeginz> stow_: just ask the qn,man ... and dont start a cyberwar here
[10:33] <stow_> ok then. samba is running, on my windows mach i can see the ubuntu box, but my share isn't showing.
[10:33] <stow_> i used um . . .
[10:34] <Ronald|Laptop> Postfix+Sasl problem: warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database warning: unknown[<IP_ADDRESS>] : SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed: authentication failure / http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21950/
[10:34] <Gabz> stow_: it's 6 33 pm in australia keep your ideas that you live in the only country in the world to yourself :P
[10:34] <dchky> stow_, open up a nautilus window, hit ctrl+L then type smb://ip_address_of_the_windows_machine
[10:34] <stow_> i used swat to set it up.
[10:34] <stow_> Gabz i was simply going by the same assumption that the installer did ^_^
[10:34] <mzuverink> In gnome, I have check the show trash box in the apps section of configuration editor, but it does not appear.  What can I do to make it appear
[10:36] <Frogzoo> stow_: don't know if it will mess up swat, but I'd add the share in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:36] <Gabz> stow_:  you can paste your smb.conf and we can look for problems..
[10:36] <stow_> that'd be great. It's one of the things i need help with tho.
[10:36] <stow_> ok hold 1.
[10:36] <Frogzoo> stow_: specifically, the share needs 'browseable'
[10:36] <Myrtti> stow_: to pastebin
[10:37] <stow_> heh yes i knew not to spam the chan, but thanx for clarifying.
[10:37] <Myrtti> just to make sure ;-)
[10:38] <neutralrobotboy> so... for lack of a better way of putting it, the ubuntu installer has screwed me and now i need to put things right.
[10:38] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: what happned ?
[10:38] <stow_> fark... pastebin has a db problem. . . hold 1.
[10:39] <neutralrobotboy> grub does not recognize the partition ubuntu is installed on, nor does it have windows as an option.
[10:39] <neutralrobotboy> so for the moment, my only oses are live cds.
[10:40] <stow_> http://dpaste.com/10799/
[10:40] <stow_> quite vanilla.
[10:40] <stow_> thanks for lookin at it.
[10:41] <neutralrobotboy> can anyone help with this problem? 'cause i'd kinda like to be able to use my computer...
[10:41] <stow_> Yoh is the drive that doesn't show up as a share.
[10:42] <Gabz> stow_:  available = No shouldn't that be yes... hold on while i find a refference file...
[10:43] <mzuverink> For some reason I cannot get my trash bin to appear on the desktop even though I checked the box in Configuration Editor.  I am thinking that I may have deleted inadvertantly.  What do I need to do to get it back?
[10:43] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: i have same problem
[10:43] <stow_> god i hope it was that simple Gabz
[10:44] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: had any luck fixing it?
[10:44] <Gabz> stow_: probably not just finding a reference
[10:44] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: ofcourse
[10:44] <stow_> Gabz: no that was it.
[10:45] <Gabz> stow_: there you go you had the share disabled..
[10:45] <stow_> in SWAT that "available" flag is under a header called "event log"
[10:45] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: get on a boot-diskette for windows and type format /mbr and you're good to go for windows
[10:45] <Rex> Good morning all.
[10:45] <stow_> so it didnt' really connect to me in that way. you know?
[10:45] <stow_> Gabz: anyway thank you for you time and your help.
[10:45] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: it will only wipe out and rewrite mbr for windows nothing else !
[10:46] <Gabz> stow_: no probs
[10:46] <stow_> Gabz: just curious where in Austr are you?
[10:46] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: and i guess ubuntu is just not going to work with my computer?
[10:46] <tri3axe> Heyas, what apps are there for erasing/rewriting cd-rw's and burning .iso images?
[10:46] <Rex> I have just recently configured X for my ATI Radeon 9000. Now the buttons on my windows are a different colour than the theme. Anyone ever seen this before?
[10:46] <stow_> i have a friend in brisbane. maybe you know him? (= just kidding.
[10:46] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: it is going to work
[10:46] <Gabz> stow_: hunter valley coal mining country
[10:46] <stow_> that southern coast?
[10:46] <Frogzoo> tri3axe: k3b
[10:47] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: the problem is that newbies like you and me get how stuff is working after 10-20 unsuccesful installs
[10:47] <tri3axe> k3b in gnome?
[10:47] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: you just learn from mistakes
[10:47] <Gabz> stow_: mid north coast 200km up from sydney and 600 km down from brisbane
[10:47] <spx2> tri3axe: im running gnochm in fluxbox so what ?
[10:47] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: so, reformatting the mbr will fix both problems?
[10:47] <stow_> cool.
[10:47] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: no , it will just let you acces windows
[10:48] <compengi> !ru
[10:48] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:49] <stow_> Gabz: well thanks again... this has been a huge thorn in my side for about a month now. I just tonight blew away kubuntu and installed ubuntu server then kde. previously i had a totally different problem that i couldn't get solved. when the problem was different this time i was very hopeful.
[10:49] <stow_> many sleepless nights have now paid off. good job and thanks aga.
[10:49] <stow_> later all
[10:49] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: ok. i have a feeling that this could all be fixed with proper usage of grub, but i don't understand grub.
[10:49] <Draco_> can anyone recommend a better irc client than xchat ?
[10:49] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: there's very little to know about grub
[10:50] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: what you want to know more about is what grub understands tghrough (x,y,z)
[10:50] <GigaClon> Draco_, what is your problem with it
[10:51] <spx2> Gabz: does a primary partition contain logical ones ?
[10:51] <Draco_> GigaClon,  its unable to establish ctcp conenctions and dcc receives, I get the error DCC SEND  to J^cumm failed. Bad file descriptor
[10:51] <spx2> Draco_: irssi
[10:51] <Gabz> spx2:  it can and it can't
[10:51] <spx2> Draco_: why does not xchat fit ur needs ?
[10:52] <GigaClon> its prolly not a xchat thing, its prolly a router thing
[10:52] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: hmm... i installed grub on the right drive, but maybe not the right partition?
[10:52] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: yes
[10:52] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: how much ram you got ?
[10:52] <neutralrobotboy> 1gb
[10:52] <Draco_> let me try irssi and see if I have the same problem
[10:53] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: then i suggest you run ubuntu in a vpc/vmware
[10:53] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: so that you dont hurt your system and cause data-losss
[10:53] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: until you get to understand it better
[10:53] <chuck____> for some reason I can't get PureDB authentication to work with pure-ftp.  Unix authentication works fine, however.  I've added the user using pure-pw, rebuilt the PureDB database file, and restarted the server to no avail.  i'm consistently getting a "login failed."  the only login that works is my linux login.  i had gotten another account to work through UNIX auth by adding a user with useradd and giving it a password  but that's n
[10:53] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: hmm, i guess. i thought that ubuntu was supposed to be easy for newbies to install and use.
[10:54] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: no linux is easy for newbies,it has too much liberty and you can fuck up your system in seconds
[10:54] <Draco_> great repositories are still broken
[10:54] <backblue> hi, how can i rebuild a package, for ubuntu?
[10:54] <GigaClon> test it with Gaim
[10:54] <chuck____> pure-ftpd is really getting on my nerves tonight
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Draco_: use a differnet country code
[10:55] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: well, i never had it this bad with mandrake... and i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easier to work out of the box.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> backblue: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[10:55] <Draco_> gnomefreak, tried ZA and main both not working
[10:55] <backblue> gnomefreak: tks
[10:55] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:55] <chuck____> UNIX auth works, then it doesn't, then it does with only my actual desktop login, rinse and repeat... and PureDB is just 100% fubar
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Draco_: my dapper feisty and gutsy ones work fine here
[10:55] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: well...then put mandrake back up , imho mandrake ubuntu slack ...all the same
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Draco_: i use no country code
[10:56] <Akuma_> gnome apps often specify keyboard shortcuts with <Control>, <Alt>, etc ... where can a get a list of those?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> did you try gb or uk?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> they are up the most
[10:56] <Draco_> I just select main in repositories havent changed anything else
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Draco_: look in /etc/apt/sources.list file to see what CC its using
[10:57] <Draco_> checking
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> Hey, i need help.
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> whats happening if: root@sawtooth:~# ps
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> PID TTY TIME CMD
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21414 pts/0 00:00:00 bash
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21783 pts/0 00:00:00 proc
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21786 pts/0 00:00:00 ps
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> root@sawtooth:~# kill -9 -1 21783
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> what is the result of killing proc?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> heeeeeoii: please use pastebin to paste
[10:57] <GigaClon> !paste
[10:57] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: i guess that's what i'll do. i'll do the mbr repair now and leave it for a while. thanks for your help.
[10:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> !paste root@sawtooth:~# ps
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> PID TTY TIME CMD
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21414 pts/0 00:00:00 bash
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21783 pts/0 00:00:00 proc
[10:57] <heeeeeoii> 21786 pts/0 00:00:00 ps
[10:57] <chuck____> =\
[10:58] <heeeeeoii> root@sawtooth:~# kill -9 -1 21783
[10:58] <VoX> USE THE PASTEBIN YOU TOOL
[10:58] <ompaul> VoX, not how we do it here
[10:58] <ompaul> !paste | heeeeeoii
[10:58] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: no problem
[10:58] <intelikey> in my package cache, why would an older version have a newer date ?
[10:58] <Draco_> gnomefreak, I dont see a country code anywhere ?
[10:58] <intelikey> libss2_1.38-2ubuntu1_i386.deb   33728  Aug 21  2006
[10:58] <intelikey> libss2_1.38-2ubuntu2_i386.deb   33768  May 12  2006
[10:58] <ubotu> heeeeeoii: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Draco_: try adding gb and running update to see if it helps
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Draco_: need to open it with sudo/gksudo/kdesu
[10:59] <intelikey> that's not an isolated case ^  there are a lot of that sort of thing   ^   ???
[10:59] <Draco_> gnomefreak yup using sudo
[11:00] <Jack31> is an intel core solo, i686
[11:00] <Draco_> where does the country code go ?
[11:00] <heeeeeoii> !paste | heeeeeoii
[11:00] <ompaul> intelikey, no idea, file a bug
[11:00] <ompaul> heeeeeoii, stop
[11:00] <heeeeeoii> sorry!
[11:01] <heeeeeoii> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21953/ here is my text!
[11:01] <heeeeeoii> plz have a look it and tell me what the result will be! :)
[11:01] <tkr> hi. trying to set my LC_MONETARY etc locales to non-US (I like the english default language) but putting them to .profile doesnt seem to help. which is the correct place in ubuntu 7.04?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Draco_: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Draco_: it will look simular to that
[11:02] <Draco_> checking
[11:02] <gnomefreak> i only gave you the first part of the repo. leave security alone no CC is needed for them
[11:02] <tkr> anyone? this must be an easy question.
[11:02] <Gabz> gnomefreak: just send him to the sources list generator site ?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> Gabz: its out of date last i heard
[11:03] <ompaul> heeeeeoii, it is not funny
[11:04] <Draco_> should I be getting Index of /ubuntu for that url ?
[11:04] <chuck____> anyone feel like devoting some brainpower to helping me with this pure-ftpd problem?  I've been at this for hours now with hardly any progress
[11:04] <Gabz> gnomefreak: should be find for major countries. anyway with 7.04 you can do it all through gui and the select servers. button
[11:04] <Jack31> so, when i run the ubuntu low latency kernel, my wifi is non existant
[11:04] <Gabz> gnomefreak:  s/find/fine
[11:04] <rowland> hello folks, just a quickie.  Why aren't windows visible when opening first time in Feisty?
[11:04] <Jack31> the driver just isnt there
[11:05] <chuck____> =(
[11:05] <chuck____> meh
[11:05] <Gabz> Jack31:  they could of taken your drivers out of the kernel..
[11:05] <tkr> pretty please? :)
[11:05] <chuck____> pure-ftpd is doomed to be a broken wreck forever it seems
[11:05] <Draco_> my sources.list is the default one and it worked fine yesterday
[11:06] <Frogzoo> rowland: you mean you can see the desktop? try opening a terminal
[11:06] <MrC_> hello again
[11:06] <diego> tax soy diego buenos dias
[11:06] <jtmoney> anyone want to recommend a method or synchronizing files between an xp workstation (on 24/7) and a laptop running ubuntu? rsync the best way?
[11:06] <jtmoney> *method for
[11:06] <ompaul> !es | diego
[11:06] <ubotu> diego: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:06] <luna7kiss> does anyone know why i dont have spellcheck working on my ubuntu feisty?
[11:07] <rowland> Frogzoo:  I think it's just when I am using applications like firefox
[11:07] <jtmoney> luna7kiss: do you have the aspell package installed?
[11:07] <Draco_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:07] <MrC_> i was wondering if do i need any kinda of Anti-Spy-ware for my Ubuntu.Do i need any program like that?
[11:07] <jtmoney> MrC_: nope
[11:07] <rowland> Frogzoo:  I open something and noi text, reduce it, maximise it again and hey presto it's there!
[11:07] <Frogzoo> jtmoney: there's an app in the repos called unison - you could use that to sync to a samba mount
[11:08] <Eevee1> hi
[11:08] <luna7kiss> whats the package called, i checked that i do have "myspell" package installed
[11:08] <MrC_> I am new with linux ,which do you guys/gals recommend
[11:08] <Gabz> Draco_: sounds like that server is down. or the link between you and that server is down
[11:08] <MrC_> ?
[11:08] <MrC_> Sorry if i need it
[11:08] <Frogzoo> !docs | MrC_
[11:08] <ubotu> MrC_: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:08] <MrC_> thx
[11:08] <jtmoney> Frogzoo: thanks
[11:08] <Jack31> how do i know what version of ubuntu i installed?
[11:08] <Jack31> like if its i386
[11:08] <Jack31> orwhat
[11:09] <GigaClon> uname
[11:09] <DaveTarmac> i'm having WPA problems with my feisty install. In the network icon on the top bar, I can see my wireless network, but i have no WPA options in order to connect to it. Without this connection I cannot access the internet in Ubuntu. My network card is D-Link G520+.
[11:09] <Draco_> Gabz, will try tomorrow then
[11:09] <luna7kiss> jtmoney, whats the package called, i checked and  do have "myspell" package installed, is there anything else i need to install?
[11:09] <spx2> is there any pageant for linux ?
[11:09] <DaveTarmac> I've looked on the forums, but can't find any solutions
[11:09] <GigaClon> Jack31, uname -a
[11:10] <Trig> Heya everyone, is it a must to have a ramdisk in Ubuntu, or is there an option to have some simple 'pagefile' for swapping memory?
[11:10] <chuck____> I can't get my WPA working either.  It's rather annoying
[11:10] <leotr> hi all. are there .deb files on ubuntu CDs?
[11:10] <Gabz> Draco_: i suggest you uses your countries local one but yeah try again tomorrow it's just a 404 not found error
[11:10] <Frogzoo> leotr: sure is
[11:10] <spx2> is there any pageant for linux ?
[11:10] <DaveTarmac> chuck____: you're telling me... do you have the same card?
[11:10] <Draco_> Gabz, I get that for main and for local unfortunately
[11:11] <spx2> is there a pageant in linux ?
[11:11] <GigaClon> !questions
[11:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:12] <leotr> Frogzoo: is it possible to install some ubuntu games (gnome) to kubuntu?
[11:12] <GigaClon> spx2 stop asking your question if anyone know they will answer
[11:12] <spx2> GigaClon: i think i might just have better chances for it to be answered
[11:12] <Trig> Heya everyone, is it a must to have a ramdisk in Ubuntu, or is there an option to have some simple 'pagefile' for swapping memory?
[11:12] <GigaClon> Trig i belive its is a must
[11:13] <spx2> Trig: at install you can set up a swap partition
[11:13] <Gabz> Draco_:  blame your ISP :p there is something wrong with your net connection which is preventing acess to the update server
[11:13] <luna7kiss> jtmoney, whats the package called, i checked and  do have "myspell" package installed, is there anything else i need to install?
[11:13] <Frogzoo> leotr: ask your questions to the chan, someone will know
[11:13] <luna7kiss> does anyone know why i dont have spellcheck working on my ubuntu feisty?
[11:13] <Draco_> Gabz, such a long list of people to blame anyways will wait till tomorrow
[11:13] <Trig> spix2: I know i can, but i asked do i have to? :P
[11:13] <tkr> ahh. sorry. forget about my question. I had just forgotten to export them in .profile. sigh :)
[11:14] <ccooke> Trig: Using a dedicated swap partition is faster and more efficient. However, the swap tools will work on anything - you can create a swapfile and tell the system to swap to it.
[11:14] <Gabz> Draco_:  pretty much, the problems of the internet every one between you and the server are to blame.
[11:14] <Trig> ccooke, thanks a lot :)
[11:15] <Frogzoo> spx2: apt-cache search pageant
[11:15] <Frogzoo> Trig: you can use ramdisks for swap, and it's actually very nice
[11:16] <ccooke> Trig: the tools you're after are: mkswap ('formats' a file into swap space), swapon and swapoff (which tells the system to use an existing swap area as swap space)
[11:16] <Frogzoo> Trig: you can run without any swap completely, I don't think it's recommended but people do strange things
[11:20] <neutralrobotboy> hmm... well, that didn't quite do it.
[11:20] <jtmoney> what can i use to mount a windows share across the network?
[11:20] <jtmoney> i.e. xp has the share, ubuntu is accessing it
[11:21] <Burnwood> Hey.
[11:21] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: are you still around?
[11:21] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: yes
[11:21] <SlimeyPete> jtmoney: samba. google for details on how to mount a samba share. I think you might be able to do it graphically in Gnome these days.
[11:21] <Burnwood> I'm on the Ubuntu livecd part. Can I install Ubuntu to an NTFS partition?
[11:21] <jtmoney> i thought samba created a share on the linux box?
[11:21] <jtmoney> Burnwood: no, but you can resize an ntfs partition
[11:21] <jtmoney> (from the install cd)
[11:21] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: the windows recovery console's "fixboot" didn't do it. "fixmbr" tells me i might lose my partition table. this would be extremely bad.
[11:22] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: is there any chance at all of me being able to boot windows from grub?
[11:22] <Burnwood> I can? I've got an NTFS partition with 20GB free space, using the LiveCD can I cut 5GB out of it or so and format+dedicate that to Ubuntu?
[11:22] <LordKratos> I already have Linux 6.06 installed, and I'm running the 7.04 on the live CD. Since there isn't any other way I can install this new one (due to deleting the graphical interface of 6.06) I was wondering if I could just delete the "ext3" partition of the old one, and make a new one with this CD. Will it work?
[11:22] <jtmoney> Burnwood: yeah, that would work
[11:24] <LordKratos> So, can anyone help?
[11:24] <CheshireViking> Burnwood, just make sure you've got a backup of the partition (assuming there's anything on it you want to keep) before you start changing paritions, you should be able to repartition by shrinking the 20gb and using the free'd space to install
[11:24] <Rage_> LordKratos: Linux 6.06 does not exist yet. You mean Ubuntu.
[11:24] <Burnwood> hmm, I opened gparted but my HDD has a padlock icon on it
[11:24] <salaah> whats the channel for beryleffects problems?
[11:24] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, I don't understand your question.
[11:24] <tokj> salaah: #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <salaah> thank u
[11:25] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: use format /mbr
[11:25] <dawn_chorus> Burnwood, if you're wanting to resize the Ubuntu partition, you'll have to use a LiveCD.  You cannot resize a mounted partition.
[11:25] <FearMoth> I've installed Ubuntu with just the base command-line installation. Is there any package that I can install to get a LAMP setup going?
[11:26] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: that isn't available.
[11:26] <Miso> I'm getting a red blocked connection in firestarter right before losing my internet connection
[11:26] <jtmoney> isn't there a command like grub-update?
[11:26] <jtmoney> it's been a while since i toyed with grub
[11:26] <dawn_chorus> jtmoney, yes.
[11:26] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: make it available
[11:26] <jtmoney> you could always fixmbr then boot off the livecd and then grub-update
[11:26] <neutralrobotboy> spx2:  the /mbr switch doesn't work with format in my recovery console.
[11:26] <LordKratos> I have Ubuntu 6.06 installed on my computer. I tired to install Beryl a few weeks ago, but I deleted some stuff, and now when I start up 6.06, all I see is text. I got the Ubuntu 7.04 a few days ago, but without an interface in 6.06, I can't do much. I'm using 7.04 off the live CD. I was wondering if I could just delete the old partitions of Ubuntu 6.06 and make new ones for 7.04 to work.
[11:26] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: yeah, it doesn't have that command
[11:27] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: google for it
[11:27] <jtmoney> fixmbr, fixboot
[11:27] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: there is a format /mbr
[11:27] <jtmoney> the recovery console is SEVERLY limited
[11:27] <neutralrobotboy> jtmoney: what would grub-update do?
[11:27] <MrC_> other question that i have about Linux is Do i need any kinda of security software for Linux?
[11:27] <jtmoney> spx2: you're thinking dos
[11:27] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: get hirens boot cd and work your way
[11:27] <spx2> jtmoney: im thinking hirens boot cd
[11:27] <jtmoney> MrC_: not really, although ubuntu comes with no firewall by default
[11:27] <spx2> jtmoney: or a boot disquetet , disket
[11:27] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, yes you could do that.  you could simply overwrite the data on the existing partitions, too.
[11:28] <LeventO> hi all, i've done something stupid, i mounted one partition at /media when i was installing, i now have trouble using this partition, and i want to mount it somewhere else but cant figure out how, gnome partition manager is giving me an error when i try to unmount in...
[11:28] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: can you copy/paste your original problem?
[11:28] <neutralrobotboy> jtmoney: it gave me a warning that fixmbr might screw with my partition table.
[11:28] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, you may want something to scan emails, so you don't pass anything along to friends who use Windows.
[11:28] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: So I can just delete the "ext3" partition and make a new one?
[11:28] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Because the linux-swap doesn't seem to be deletedable
[11:28] <MrC_> so,should install a firewall then?
[11:28] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, well, it'd be simpler to simply format the existing partition.  you'll get the same effect.
[11:28] <jtmoney> MrC_: only if you don't have a hardware one (router)
[11:28] <MrC_> which one should i install?
[11:29] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, you alread have one.  iptables.
[11:29] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  How do I do that?
[11:29] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: fixmbr will prevent grub from loading
[11:29] <MrC_> ok
[11:29] <neutralrobotboy> jtmoney: basically i tried to install ubuntu, and when i boot up, grub neither boots ubuntu (says it can't recognize the partition), nor gives booting windows as an option.
[11:29] <Madpilot> MrC_, there is a firewall built in to Ubuntu, and already running. Firestarter and such are just control panels
[11:29] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: i suggest you use the classic tool wich is format. see for yourself here
[11:29] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: http://expert.mandriva.com/question/1495
[11:29] <MrC_> ok thx
[11:29] <jtmoney> neutralrobotboy: yeah, that's a little over my head... listen to spx2 ;)
[11:29] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, when you edit the ext3 partition within GParted (or whatever), there will be a "Format partition?" option.  choose "Yes."
[11:29] <jtmoney> grub-update MIGHT fix it
[11:30] <MrC_> for we are decades in front of Windows users?
[11:30] <LordKratos> Yes.
[11:30] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: Yes. The option is there.
[11:30] <Burnwood> Weird, when I unmount my partition Ubuntu auto-remounts it, how do I get that to stop?
[11:30] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, right on.  there's really no point in recreating the partition. just format it and mount it to / .
[11:30] <MrC_> Why da reck do they still uses Windows if it is crap?
[11:30] <MrC_> and unsafe
[11:30] <FearMoth> What packages do I need to install a preconfigured Apache/MySQL/PHP server? Is there any metapackage in Feisty?
[11:30] <heeeeeoii> How do i use findcommand to NOT serach in /tmp but everywhere else??
[11:31] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, some people have to use it for their work.  some people are just dumb.
[11:31] <MrC_> like me before
[11:31] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: i'm a bit worried about this because i'm not using win98...
[11:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, lamp | FearMoth
[11:31] <ubotu> FearMoth: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:31] <Burnwood> Anyone?
[11:31] <jtmoney> Burnwood: you need to boot from a livecd
[11:31] <jtmoney> or use knoppix
[11:31] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: well i was using xp when i solved my problem this way
[11:31] <dawn_chorus> MrC_, and some people, like me, choose to use it because they like some software that's available.  I have a laptop with XP dedicated to nothing but audio editing.
[11:31] <Burnwood> I am on a LiveCD.
[11:31] <MrC_> moved to Linux for good and trying to bring some with me
[11:31] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Hold on. "Format to" is what you were talking about, right?
[11:31] <samiloop> hi. is there a administrative tool in ubuntu that lets you configure multiple monitors and an extended desktop ? after installing the nvidia restricted drivers, the two screens went a bit funny...
[11:32] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: did you have a non-standard partition table? this is what it warns me about with fixmbr...
[11:32] <MrC_> ok fair enough
[11:32] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, yeah.  that'll work.
[11:32] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: dude , have you read what i gave you , if you would have read what i gave you at this link ericx_2 d.louie
[11:32] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: I'm not given a "/" option.
[11:32] <spx2> Incident Number	1495
[11:32] <LeventO> how do i manually unmount a partition
[11:33] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you cannot set a mount point?  not a format option, but a "mount to" option?
[11:33] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: http://www.mandrivaexpert.com/showarchive.php?arc=1495
[11:33] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: you should have solved your problem by now
[11:33] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, oh, nevermind.  that'll come when you actually install 7.04.  :)
[11:33] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  The only thing I see is "unmount" and it can't be selected.
[11:33] <neutralrobotboy> spx2: ...ok. i read that. i guess i'll try it.
[11:33] <spx2> neutralrobotboy: also look here http://forums.pcworld.co.nz/archive/index.php/t-20397.html
[11:33] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, yeah.  that's normal.
[11:34] <jericho> hey guys... how do i use a .run file?
[11:34] <johns^> jericho: most likely ./nameoffile.run
[11:34] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: I can let you take control of the computer if you'd like.  As in, move things around, click, etc.
[11:35] <LeventO> hello, anyone know how i can manually unmount a partition
[11:35] <johns^> Burnwood: edit /etc/fstab add ,no-auto after 'default' on the partitions you don't want autoounted
[11:36] <johns^> LeventO: umount /mount/point
[11:36] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, well, I've never done that before, but ... I'm willing to try, I guess.  :/
[11:36] <mc44> Burnwood: System->preferences->Removable Drives and Media
[11:36] <LordKratos> Ok.
[11:36] <Miso> it happens every few hours
[11:36] <DaveTarmac> ok, I give up. which wifi card chipsets are natively supported with WPA support in Feisty?
[11:36] <jericho> ok... thanks... sh (filename) did the trick
[11:37] <MrC_> i am looking for a weather widget for my feisty fawn.Does any knows a good one?
[11:37] <dawn_chorus> !wifi | DaveTarmac
[11:37] <ubotu> DaveTarmac: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:38] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  I seem to have forgotten how... So can you proceed with helping?
[11:38] <LeventO> johns^, so if i were to unmount the partition mounted at /media: umount /media, should do it? because that gives me an error, possibly because it the /media folder which all removable drives mount into...
[11:38] <heeeeeoii> How do i use findcommand to NOT serach in /tmp but everywhere else??
[11:39] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, sure.
[11:39] <johns^> LeventO: nou you have to unmount the individual drives.
[11:39] <johns^> or use a umount -a
[11:39] <LeventO> what does the -a do?
[11:39] <johns^> unmounts all the partitions that are not in use
[11:40] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  So what shall I do with my ext3 partition?
[11:41] <babo> My firefox freezes all of the time. It practically times out, hogs 100% of CPU for 2-3 mins when I do something simple like click on the gmail settings on the igoogle page ...
[11:41] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, are you actually installing from the LiveCD now?
[11:41] <babo> sometimes it comes back after a while. Sometimes it doesn't.
[11:41] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  I'm running Ubuntu off the CD, not installing it.
[11:41] <babo> it doesn't crash X, but I can't bring the firefox window back up.
[11:41] <babo> why is that ?
[11:42] <fatal_> looks like the first dell models to ship with ubuntu are (unofficially) announced.... sad to see the laptop having an ATI Radeon X1400 which doesn't have any free drivers (not even 2D AFAIK)..... does anyone know of an effort to get dell to put their pressure on ati to release specs for their newer cards?....
[11:42] <LeventO> johns^, thanks, that did the trick, now how do i remount all my removable drives?
[11:42] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, well, the most you'll be able to do at this point is format it.
[11:42] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  What shall I reformat it to?
[11:43] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, ext3.
[11:43] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: It's already ext3
[11:43] <tarelerulz> I used ndiswrapper to install my wireless card and I can't get my wireless connection at all.
[11:44] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, right.  it's not really worth bothering with until you install though.  what you're wanting to do is wipe the partition.  formatting it will do that.
[11:44] <mc44> babo: maybe a bug in firefox, maybe a bug in an extenstion you have
[11:44] <jmg_> hey all
[11:44] <LordKratos> Ok, so I've hit "Format to" "ext3" and now it's got an operation pending. Do I hit apply?
[11:44] <babo> mc44: right. how do I find out more about a running process ?
[11:45] <jmg_> anyone know how to stop a laptop trying to resume from hibernation? i think its fscking mine.
[11:45] <mc44> babo: what more do you want to find out?
[11:45] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you got it.
[11:45] <babo> ldd gives me the linked libs ... what are the other program tools ? There's a tool that will monitor the system calls ? What's that called again ?
[11:45] <zmo> babo: strace
[11:46] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  An error occurred.
[11:46] <babo> zmo: right. thanks.
[11:46] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, what error?
[11:47] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  /dev/hda3 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
[11:47] <LeventO> what is the command to create a folder?
[11:47] <h4wk0> mkdir
[11:47] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, oh yeah.
[11:47] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you can unmount it, right?
[11:48] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Well, after I closed the error, all partitions have a lock, and the ext3 one now says "Unknown".
[11:48] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, that means it's time to go ahead and install. :)
[11:48] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: But now it has the "unmount" option
[11:48] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Ah
[11:49] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Now what do I do?
[11:49] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, there should be a "install to hard drive" or similar button on your desktop.
[11:50] <danny3793> can someone help me with a problem in FF? it keeps crashing when i try to view flash things, i have flash installed, i let FF do it...any idea why it freezes each time i do try to do stuff with flash, like play my playlist on Imeem
[11:50] <LordKratos> dawn Yes
[11:50] <anathematic> how do i c heck if i have the 64 or the 32 bit ubuntu on my box? (i can't remember which one i put on)
[11:50] <babo> are there any other process tools besides strace and ldd ?
[11:51] <babo> ... and ps and top
[11:51] <danny3793> babo: htop is pretty nice
[11:51] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, double click that bad boy.  and off you go!
[11:51] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Hehe. I've gotten to the Prepare disk space part. Now what?
[11:51] <foo> Hm, I am dragging an mp3 file into k3b for a music CD and it's saying an unsupported format. Any ideas?
[11:52] <MrC_> soon on linux http://www.chinwong.com/index.php/site/article/widgets_for_linux/
[11:52] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, uh ... memory's a bit rusty.  Could you post a screenshot perhaps?
[11:52] <CheshireViking> foo, you need to download a codec to enable k3b to convert mp3's to cd format
[11:52] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: How do I do that?
[11:52] <CheshireViking> foo, i'm not sure which it is off the top of my head though
[11:52] <LordKratos> Oh
[11:53] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Hold on
[11:53] <amorphous_> hi. Could anybody tell me - if I ping an IP address (cable connection) is it the modem that replies or does it get forwarded to the PC to reply?
[11:53] <bonii> I am running Feisty with Postgresql 8.2 and Python 2.5. Now I want to interface postgres from python so I need to install Pygresql is it available as a package or is there another alternative??
[11:53] <foo> CheshireViking: Yeah, that's what I figured. Hm, let me check apt-cache.
[11:54] <samiloop> hi. does gnome support dual monitors in any way?
[11:54] <mjr> amorphous_, usually cable modems are just media converters, so to the PC, but if your particular one acts as a NAT router or something, then not
[11:54] <CheshireViking> foo, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[11:54] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: Here you go. http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7213/screenshotck7.png
[11:54] <CheshireViking> foo, i think that should solve the problem
[11:54] <bonii> I am running Feisty with Postgresql 8.2 and Python 2.5. Now I want to interface postgres from python so I need to install Pygresql is it available as a package or is there another alternative??
[11:54] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, choose "manual">
[11:54] <guest> cbnxcbn
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: libk3b2-mp3
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: err, you beat me :)
[11:55] <gu355wh0> guys, how can i do switching between english layout and my own language layout... i add my language but don't know how to switch
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: Thanks
[11:55] <foo> CheshireViking: And that did work..
[11:55] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Now it took me to "Prepare Partitions"
[11:55] <LeventO> what is the command to copy a file?
[11:55] <CheshireViking> foo, your welcome
[11:55] <LordKratos> I can edit, delete, or undo changes to partitions.
[11:55] <gu355wh0> LeventO, cp
[11:55] <LeventO> thanks
[11:55] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, um .. I guess ... another screenie?
[11:56] <amorphous_> only I'm getting reports of a mchine not abe to check email or go 'into' websites beyond the first page. The machine is remote to me and I cant seem to ping it. mjr - the modem goes into a router then the pc (the router is wireless but the pc is eth wired into it). The ping sommand is giving no output but also not giving up (no errors etc). Would that be normal
[11:56] <amorphous_> ?
[11:56] <andcor> Anyone familiar with the problem latex has with multibib and captions ?
[11:56] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9586/screenshot1qe1.png
[11:57] <spx2> does ubuntu really expect me to recompile the kernel so that i get suspend/hibernate/sleep function for my laptop ?
[11:57] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you'll select /dev/hda3, "edit partition".  make it ext3 and set the mount point to / .  also, you'll want to click the format option.
[11:57] <Draconicus> brb
[11:57] <spx2> LordKratos: who's diana ? :P
[11:58] <danny3793> is there anything i can do about each time flash tries to play a sound, it freezes my FF..?
[11:58] <amorphous_> mjr - would a router in before the pc constitute NAT? I'm assuming not and the the router would just forward it... that right?
[11:58] <spx2> does ubuntu really expect me to recompile the kernel so that i get suspend/hibernate/sleep function for my laptop ?
[11:58] <dawn_chorus> spx2, kernel recompilation is easy as pie.  don't be scared.
 Ubuntu does not at all expect you to recompile your kernel
[11:58] <spx2> dawn_chorus: right..and i'm jojo the clown
[11:58] <amorphous_> spx2 - kernel comile is not as scary as it sounds...
[11:58] <LordKratos> spx2:  She's my girlfriend.
[11:58] <john_watson> How to use scanner in ubuntu?
[11:59] <dawn_chorus> spx2, whatever.
[11:59] <spx2> LordKratos: so you came here to brag abount your gf ?
[11:59] <gu355wh0> how can i do switching between english layout and my own language layout ?
[11:59] <Chousuke> spx2: it is easy, really.
[11:59] <Chousuke> spx2: it's the configuration that most people get wrong
[11:59] <spx2> Chousuke: ofcourse
[11:59] <LordKratos> spx2:  No...
[11:59] <andcor> but, you will have to understand that they can't make an kernel that fixes all the problems at one time
[11:59] <john_watson> How to use scanner in ubuntu?
[11:59] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Dawn, the mount point doesn't have an option.
[11:59] <andcor> Anyone familiar with the problem latex has with multibib and captions ?
[12:00] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Is that normal?
[12:00] <Chousuke> spx2: the only command you need to compile the kernel is "make" :P
[12:00] <spx2> andcor: right..tahts why windows kernel can be patched...modified on the fly without needing recompiling...
[12:00] <amorphous_> mjr: sorry - were if they were silly questions, but I'm still trying to get to grips with the networking thing. :/
[12:00] <danny3793> can someone help me with flash freezing FF to where i have to "force quit" it
[12:00] <Chousuke> spx2: that's false
[12:00] <andcor> spx2: right. And if it's windows you want, then don't install linux
[12:00] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, no?  hm ... another screenie?
[12:01] <Chousuke> spx2: no-one modifies the windows kernel without recompiling it
[12:01] <andcor> spx2: it isn't the same
[12:01] <Chousuke> spx2: the windows devs just supply you a precompiled kernel image that has the faults patched.
[12:01] <spx2> Chousuke andcor you both dont know squat about what you're talking about right?
[12:01] <Chousuke> spx2: I do.
[12:01] <mjr> amorphous_, again it really depends on if the router does nat or if it's a plain router
[12:02] <Chousuke> You appear not to :(
[12:02] <pianoboy3333> I'm looking for the old english font that comes standard on windows boxes, I can't seem to find it on my windows box, and I really need it for this project, can anyone dcc it to me, or tell me how I can get it? I believe it's called Old English Text MS
[12:02] <wam> Hi, I upgraded from edge to feisty an now it hangs on boot saying "starting early crypto disks". I have some crypted partitions which are mounted by pam when a user logs in. They should not be mounted at boot time. When I hit Enter when feisty hangs on boot, it continues. How can I fix this?
[12:02] <spx2> Chousuke andcor i just realised i'm talking to some total noobletz
[12:02] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5559/screenshot2oe4.png
[12:02] <mc44> !noob | spx2
[12:02] <ubotu> spx2: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:02] <mjr> amorphous_, so with this info, there's no definite answer
[12:02] <Chousuke> though I suppose the patches could contain just a binary delta
[12:02] <andcor> spx2: sure i do, I just can't stand that everyone is comparing linux with windows
[12:03] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, there's nothing in the Mount point drop down list?
[12:03] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Exactly.
[12:03] <andcor> spx2: It isn't the same, linux is free, and therefore you can't expect them to do all the work for you
[12:03] <CheshireViking> !offtopic
[12:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <spx2> andcor: w/e
[12:03] <ubuntubeginz> any of u guys wat the memtesting thing is about,,,before boot in at grub loader...
[12:03] <Chousuke> spx2: if you are suggesting that it is sane to try to fix any fault in the windows kernel without access to the source (and thus recompiling it), you're just wrong
[12:03] <danny3793> andcor: people compare all the time, including windows to mac, windows to any linux distro, and windows distros to other window distros..
[12:03] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, that's weird.  try formatting it first and then go back to see if it'll give you a mount point.  or maybe it'll do it automatically.
[12:03] <amorphous_> mjr: sorry - it's a normal high st router.. only setting not default is ssh forwarding, and that's been fine up until now. Users can use google but cannot go into sites any deeper. - they are also locked down (pessulus) so dont see how they could have messed with software - they have no admin rights...
[12:03] <Burnwood> hm, you can't install ubuntu onto a fat32 partition? damn
[12:04] <andcor> danny3793: I know. but it's wrong
[12:04] <spx2> Chousuke: w/e
[12:04] <yell0w> ubuntubeginz, test your physical memory
[12:04] <andcor> danny3793: If it's windows you wan't, then it is an mistake to install linux
[12:04] <c> Hi Newbie here, running feisty . I have set up XGL and Beryl and when I right click the beryl manager and try to change to beryl all my widow title-bar's disappear any hints on how to fix this thanks
[12:04] <spx2> people here should be voiced so that i know who are and aren't noobletz in here,dont loose my time talking to them...
[12:04] <tondar> anyone here has demonoid account?
[12:05] <mc44> spx2: please drop the attitude
[12:05] <dawn_chorus> c, try alt+f2.  type in 'emerald --replace'
[12:05] <BoY_14> some girl????
[12:05] <mc44> !piracy | tondar
[12:05] <ubotu> tondar: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:05] <danny3793> andcor: how is it wrong? comparing things goes down to the littlest things, such as shoes, what to wear, saying to compare a few OS's is wrong, is like saying people shouldnt figure out what to wear..
[12:05] <Chousuke> spx2: Trolls aren't welcome here.
[12:05] <Chousuke> spx2: please leave.
[12:05] <amorphous_> spx - so traffic & knowledge is only one way with you...?
[12:05] <tondar> np
[12:05] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  I can select the format thing. What should I do?
[12:05] <ubuntubeginz> yell0w: test as in... whether by Ram is working... btw, can i click memtesting now ( the thing is that i have installed my ubuntu oredi), it wont messup anything if i clik memtesting now rite..
[12:06] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, just go ahead and format the partition.  we'll deal with the mount point in a moment.
[12:06] <andcor> danny3793: That's right, but if you compare to such different things as linux and windows, then it is bound to go wring
[12:06] <andcor> wrong
[12:06] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus: Sorry. I meant to say "Can't"
[12:06] <exs> what does AM2 mean on amd processors?
[12:06] <Flannel> ubuntubeginz: right.  And even if you accidentally clicked the "install" options, it'd be a while before you messed anything up anyway. (youd have to go a few steps into an install)
[12:06] <LeventO> how do i start filebrowser with superuser access?
[12:06] <mc44> LeventO: gksudo nautilus
[12:07] <LeventO> thanks
[12:07] <dawn_chorus> LeventO, that's not recommended, but it's what mc44 said.
[12:07] <andcor> danny3793: If you start using linux with the attitude that you want anything to be like in windows, then you can't enjoy all the good things about linux
[12:07] <LeventO> just need to copy somefiles
[12:07] <ubuntubeginz> Flannel: Ok dokie,dude...
[12:07] <dawn_chorus> LeventO, just be careful.
[12:07] <Chousuke> andcor: the point spx2 was trying to make seems completely wrong anyway. :P
[12:08] <mc44> windows vs linux = offtopic for here, please :)
[12:08] <amorphous_> mjr: sorry - it's a normal high st router.. only setting not default is ssh forwarding, and that's been fine up until now. Users can use google but cannot go into sites any deeper. - they are also locked down (pessulus) so dont see how they could have messed with software - they have no admin rights...
[12:08] <amorphous_> Ooops... sorry... rpted by mistake...
[12:08] <amorphous_>  :?
[12:08] <andcor> Chousuke: right
[12:08] <amorphous_> :/
[12:08] <danny3793> andcor: right, i came to ubuntu from windows XP, and at first it did seem a bit tough to get things going and such, but i dont mind having to put alittle bit of effort into something, especially when i get to do it through terminal :P
[12:09] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  So I can't click on the "format?" square next to the partition
[12:09] <yell0w> geez folks this' ubuntu support channel, not #bash-one-another-s-whatever
[12:09] <clarkey>  Hi Newbie here, running feisty . I have set up XGL and Beryl and when I right click the beryl manager and try to change to beryl all my widow title-bar's disappear any hints on how to fix this thanks
[12:09] <Burnwood> i'm installing ubuntu now, i rightclicked my secondary file-backup disk/partition and said "use as... dontuse". that means ubuntu won't even touch it, right?
[12:10] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, you can't format the partition?
[12:10] <danny3793> clarkey: i know exactly whats wrong with ya :P, here lemme get you the pastebin link so you can paste your xorg.conf
[12:10] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Nope.
[12:10] <andcor> danny3793: exactly, what I think is wrong is for people to come here and demand that the ubuntu people makes their computer work as if there was windows on it
[12:10] <clarkey> thanks
[12:10] <LeventO> can cp copy folders as well as just files?
[12:10] <dawn_chorus> LeventO, yes.
[12:11] <ubuntubeginz> clarkey:btw, ur graphic card is ATI or Nvidia
[12:11] <andcor> LeventO: sure - cp -r
[12:11] <danny3793> andcor: yeah, that does get annoying, but those people are the lazy ones who dont want to learn anything about their computer, and they normally end up going back to windows as they found Linux not as "user friendly" as they would have liked for it to have been :P
[12:11] <Burnwood> Anyone? Does 'dontuse' mean Ubuntu won't touch it, or will it rape the disk?
[12:11] <clarkey> ATI mobility
[12:11] <dawn_chorus> Burnwood, dontuse should be fine.
[12:11] <Burnwood> thanks, :)
[12:11] <danny3793> clarkey: alright, i need you to go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , and paste your xorg.conf, which can be found in /etc/X11/, you can open it up with your Text Editor (GEdit)
[12:12] <andcor> danny3793: right
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> clarkey: install & run beryl-manager. Right-click on the red diamon which appears in your taskbar. Select a window manager and a window decorator ("Emerald" is the decorator)
[12:12] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, I'm not sure what's going on dude.   Those are handled by the window decorator.
[12:12] <LeventO> somehow cp doesn't want to copy files from a network location, it gives me an error: cp: cannot stat `smb://networkpc': No such file or directory
[12:13] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, hmm ... and you can't edit the partition, you can't format it.  I have no clue what's going on.
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> danny3793: I get no title bars when I boot. I have to turn the decorator on manually.
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> that fixes the problem.
[12:13] <tondar> any fifa type game for ubuntu?
[12:13] <jscinoz> Hey guys, whenever my GPU reaches 100% load or runs out of graphical ram it locks up with graphical artifacts all over the screen and i have to do a hard reboot, this happens quite often as i only have 64mb of graphical ram, is there a fix to this problem?
[12:13] <jimwhimpey> I have an old box with Ubuntu installed, I've reintalled about 10 times in the past and my WiFi card has always worked out of the box, this time it doesn't
[12:13] <mc44> SlimeyPete: you can just add it to your sessions settings to get it to run automatically
[12:13] <danny3793> slimeypete: have you added "AddARGBGLXVisuals" to your xorg?
[12:13] <LordKratos> dawn_chorus:  Oh wow. After I hit "Use as" and chose "ext3" it marked the "Format?"
[12:14] <SlimeyPete> mc44: yeah, I know... I tried doing that myself but it didn't work.
[12:14] <clarkey> danny3973 ok posted under clarkey
[12:14] <dawn_chorus> LordKratos, cool.
[12:14] <SlimeyPete> danny3793: I think so. Tbh, I'm actually finding that I prefer not having title bars.
[12:14] <mc44> SlimeyPete: meh, beryl sucks :P
[12:14] <SlimeyPete> they're kinda pointless.
[12:14] <danny3793> clarkey: gotta give me the link :P
[12:14] <MrC_> is it there any program for ubuntu/kubuntu to defragment or to clean memory from old,unused files ?