[03:00] <FreewareFan> tux97:  Just got it installed about two weeks ago, and I've been loving it since!
[03:00] <Malik_> WAKD: dude ur not answering
[03:00] <xtknight> magmack, i see.  are you using any particular howto for setting up dmraid.  i'm trying to get a picture of how it works and what goes on
[03:00] <Malik_> WAKD: i went on the channel
[03:00] <Fryguy--> xtknight: dmraid isn't applicable to him at all
[03:00] <tux97> cool freewarefan
[03:00] <Fryguy--> xtknight: he's using real hardware raid
[03:00] <yoand1> hi, is any plan on ubuntu/oracle to support oracle/ubuntu?
[03:01] <FreewareFan> Tux97:  Never used linux at all before, not in all my computing days, since the Commodore64.
[03:01] <Malik_> WAKD: i was there trying to chat with you but u weren't answering...there must be a problem
[03:01] <[agatha]> see Fryguy--  i can suspend, hibernate, logout, switchuser and lock screen. nothing like reboot or simply turn ff :S
[03:01] <xtknight> hmm
[03:01] <sFEARs> this might not be the correct room, but i'll ask anyway.  files that i drag onto my mp3 player from ubuntu play fine but when i go to transfer them onto a windows machine they're not shown.  Any idea why?  do i need to mount the mp3 player as a different file system type?
[03:01] <tux97> dont feel bad freewarefan i'm just been using linux for a a month or so regualarly
[03:01] <Ohm> Hi! How can I see which xmodmap.<something> is used at the moment?
[03:01] <Malik_> Fryguy--: do u know wat mite be the problem with our communication?
[03:01] <Fryguy--> [agatha]: are you logged into your normal user account
[03:01] <xtknight> magmack, didi read wrong or were you using dmraid?  that is probably a problem since dmraid is SOFTWARE raid only
[03:01] <smallfry> fryguy: its connected directly to a sound card. the sound card is called sound blaster. i think its not working because in windows i needed a driver. but i cant find any drivers compatible with ubuntu.
[03:01] <[agatha]> yes Fryguy--  it's the only one i have in the computer
[03:01] <Fryguy--> Malik_: no, and please learn to type and spell
[03:01] <FreewareFan> tux97:  What made you want to start using it?
[03:02] <magmack> xtknight yes, I am using dmraid
[03:02] <Fryguy--> smallfry: so the subwoofer is separate from your speaker system?
[03:02] <WAKD> Malik_ - you are in channel #Malik_ ??
[03:02] <efirewic2> sFEARs: what format is your mp3?
[03:02] <unop__> Fryguy--, you're being harsh on him -- have a little patience
[03:02] <WAKD> Malik_ I am there now! :_)
[03:02] <tux97> well i was kinda using it when i went to school and then i want server stuff so thats what made me use it lol
[03:02] <tux97> and u freewarefan
[03:02] <sFEARs> they're mp3 format
[03:02] <Fryguy--> unop__: have you been paying attention to his conversation.  he is borderline retarded
[03:02] <xtknight> magmack, ok how exactly are you installing it?
[03:03] <xtknight> magmack, sorry im a little confused because dmraid is for software raid, and you have a hardware raid implementation so i'm not sure why it works
[03:03] <yoand1> hi again, does anyone knows if there is a plan on ubuntu to support oracle or vice ?
[03:03] <nDuff> xtknight, dmraid is for software raid that pretends that it's hardware
[03:03] <regeya> !patience
[03:03] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:03] <unop__> Fryguy--, you should keep those opinions to yourself -- it makes the channel more professional (as it should be(
[03:03] <nDuff> xtknight, ...or, rather, it's a software raid implementation that's compatible with several fake hardware raid formats...
[03:03] <xtknight> i see
[03:03] <Fryguy--> unop__: this channel is hardly professional
[03:03] <icesword> ! oracle > icesword
[03:03] <FreewareFan> tux97:  I just ran across a version of it on usenet, and thought that I'd try it out.  Once I did, I found that I like it very much.  And it goes along with my lifelong view of free software.
[03:03] <nDuff> xtknight, ...so I don't think there's necessarily a contradiction.
[03:03] <efirewic2> sFEARs: I know the mp3's are is the player formatted?
[03:03] <[agatha]> hmmm Fryguy--  i was thinking, is there any way to reboot the computer from the commandline? maybe rebooting will be fixed i just don't think pushing the power button is going to be any good...
[03:03] <magmack> xtknight I install the packages (dmraid and ntfs3g), activate the array, mount it to /media/win (adding it to fstab), and it works until reboot
[03:03] <unop__> Fryguy--, it tries to be
[03:03] <regeya> yeah, not nice to call people retarded; okay to keep it to yourself tho
[03:04] <xtknight> lol
[03:04] <xtknight> yeah..
[03:04] <Fryguy--> [agatha]: there is a reboot command yes, and a shutdown command
[03:04] <smallfry> fryguy: like all the speakers connect to the box where the subwoofer is mounted with rca jacks. but then theres an input for the with a different end.
[03:04] <tux97> good idea freewarefan
[03:04] <yoand1> icesword: ?
[03:04] <Fryguy--> smallfry: so it's a standard pc speaker setup?
[03:04] <efirewic2> sFEARs: Does windows see the drive and not the files?
[03:04] <[agatha]> do you think it may fix something?? i can give it a try and if not maybe we can see more things... to be honest, i dunno what i did
[03:04] <smallfry> fryguy: yes
[03:04] <magmack> xtknight actually, since the ntfs driver that comes with ubuntu has write by default, I dont think I even installed ntfs3g this last time
[03:04] <nDuff> magmack, well -- a few things. you want to be very sure that you're actually mounting the dmraid device, not one of the raw partitions
[03:04] <icesword> yoand1, what?
[03:04] <Fryguy--> smallfry: how many connections are made to your sound card?
[03:04] <sFEARs> i don't know efirewic2 how do i format it?
[03:04] <FreewareFan> tux97:  well anyways, nice to meet you.  Maybe I'll see you on the fourms one day.  Gotta go for now.  Later.
[03:05] <yoand1> icesword: oracle?
[03:05] <nDuff> magmack, ...and you want to be sure that dmraid actually detected all the relevant partitions.
[03:05] <snerfu> Is there some kind of list of wireless cards that are working in either gutsy or hardy kernels without having to use restricted drivers like madwifi?  I couldn't find much in the way of that on the wiki.
[03:05] <icesword> yoand1, http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[03:05] <tux97> later freewarefan
[03:05] <xtknight> his boot and / aren't raid
[03:05] <xtknight> nDuff, ^
[03:05] <xtknight> just one exeternal mount
[03:05] <sFEARs> i can't see the files i put on there from windows on ubuntu & i can't see files i put there from ubuntu on windows
[03:05] <nDuff> xtknight, isn't it the win32 partition where this is an issue?
[03:05] <smallfry> fryguy: there are 3 connections. one for the front speakers. one for the subwoofer. and one for the surround speakers.
[03:05] <magmack> nDuff: as I said, dmraid works as expected for all intents and purposes until I reboot
[03:05]  * nDuff not sure -- too much traffic in this channel to go through the backtrace.
[03:05] <nDuff> magmack, that doesn't surprise me at all.
[03:05] <[agatha]> ok Fryguy--  just "reboot" in the commandline?
[03:06] <c-ron> what's a nice bittorrent client for x? i'm not liking ktorrent
[03:06] <xtknight> nDuff, well basically he has linux and / and /boot are not raid.  then he has a 1gb ntfs dmraid he's installing
[03:06] <sensae> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60493/ <-- A pastebin of my xorg.conf. The resolution I want (1680x1050) is listed but I can't change to it.
[03:06] <nDuff> ohhh.
[03:06] <Fryguy--> small, you'll only hear the subwoofer then on content that contains a subwoofer channel (movie soundtracks and such).  you'll need specialized drivers/config to mix the channels together in other modes
[03:06] <pike_> c-ron: deluge or transmission or utorrent+wine
[03:06] <xtknight> nDuff, and the 1gb ntfs mounts and works fine, then he reboots and he can't even boot.
[03:06] <icesword> c-ron, utorrent
[03:06] <unop__> snerfu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:06] <xtknight> which doent make sense cuz his / and /boot are not raid
[03:06] <yoand1> icesword: sure, it may work, it actually work, but does oracle officially recogn ubuntu as a certified os ?
[03:06] <unop__> snerfu, courtesy !google :)
[03:06] <efirewic2> sFEARs: r u using it through your usb?
[03:06] <snerfu> unop__: thanks a bunch.
[03:06] <sFEARs> yes efirewic2
[03:06] <smallfry> fryguy: how do i do that?
[03:06] <xtknight> magmack, ok.  well we might have to make it fail in order to debug it again.  it could be a number of things really.  it would be helpful if you somehow had access to the ubuntu shell, probably thru recovery mode to try and mount your root.
[03:06] <icesword> yoand1, you beat me,ask oracle
[03:07] <Fryguy--> smallfry: no idea
[03:07] <nDuff> magmack, re what I was thinking -- dmraid will work fine if it's a RAID-1 and it only mounts one of the two partitions, except that any write operations will be corrupting the store by bringing the two disks out of sync... but as long as they're initially in-sync, whichever of the two disks you mount will be internally consistent so you won't notice until you reboot.
[03:07] <smallfry> fryguy: thanks for the help
[03:07] <Fryguy--> smallfry: I use dedicated sound hardware in my audio setup, and my sound card doesn't really do anything, so I can't offer any meaningful advice
[03:07] <icesword> yoand1, they charge for service only,right?
[03:08] <yoand1> icesword: ok, thanks! do you know if ubuntu heads have any interest on that?
[03:08] <magmack> xtknight: that's what I was thinking. I also have an update for my mb's bios I can install. I'm going to try to install the latest version of ubuntu and install it, see if it still fails. this will take about an hour. will you still be on in an hour?
[03:08] <xtknight> magmack, probablyh
[03:08] <icesword> yoand1, maybe you could go to #ubuntu-ops
[03:08] <Frogzoo> I get occassional hangs running on battery power, when nothing will do but power off - any suggestions?
[03:08] <xtknight> magmack, i will be here but can't guarantee i will know what to do.  but ill try anyways ;)
[03:08] <nDuff> xtknight, is what I just described (bringing the RAID out of sync, leading to a failure on reboot) believable to you?
[03:08] <yoand1> icesword: mmmm nope, not just for service, they charge every thing, and very expensive!
[03:08] <xtknight> nDuff, well this is a mount point noncrucial to booting so i dont really tihnk so
[03:09] <bluefox83> alt + f2 should start that little "run application" dialog thingy, right?
[03:09] <magmack> xtknight: ok. i'll get started then. brb. and thanks for the help regardless :)
[03:09] <icesword> yoand1, it worths ,i think
[03:09] <Fryguy--> bluefox83: assuming you are running gnome and haven't changed the keybinding, yes
[03:09] <smallfry> fryguy: do u think that if i use dedicated sound hardware it will work for me?
[03:09] <Fryguy--> smallfry: yes
[03:09] <PurpZeY> Good evening to all.
[03:09] <bluefox83> to my knowledge i haven't, but it's not working!
[03:09] <KiTsUnE> oh boy...
[03:09] <smallfry> fryguy: how would i do that?
[03:10] <Fryguy--> smallfry: buy a lot of stuff heh
[03:10] <PurpZeY> Seems that no one around here knows who I am. That's OK though
[03:10] <KiTsUnE> i have messed up something completely Fryguy-- ... mouse won't work over anything at all
[03:10] <sensae> Fryguy--: Alt-F2 works on KDE as well
[03:10] <smallfry> fryguy: ok thanks
[03:10] <yoand1> icesword: sometimes, :) sometimes not, i mean, its just software, and like any other soft, is buggy :)
[03:10] <Fryguy--> smallfry: talking about audio setups is outside the scope of this channel, and talking to me about it is going to make you feel depressed
[03:10] <smallfry> fryguy: i c
[03:10] <Fryguy--> (i've got tens of thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment in my house)
[03:11] <Fryguy--> KiTsUnE: why did you pick my nick lol
[03:11] <icesword> yoand1, not only buggy,what we say is "right one for us",but it basically is the universal one
[03:11] <dataki1> I seem to have driver=hostap for my wireless card, but synaptic says it's not installed?
[03:11] <sensae> Does anyone know why Xorg is seemingly ignoring xorg.conf?
[03:11] <Fryguy--> sensae: doesn't ignore mine
[03:11] <Frogzoo> sensae: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:12] <piff> sensae: You need to kill X and then restart
[03:12] <bruenig> xorg has taken its cues from xorg.conf for far too long, it's tired of it. It wants to be its own boss.
[03:12] <piff> I for one, welcome our new Xorg overlords
[03:12] <nikrud> Free X! Free X!
[03:12] <sensae> bruenig: Well it's horrible at managing resolutions without it.
[03:12] <piff> Free X!

[03:13] <bruenig> don't you manage it, that is what it is pissed off about
[03:13] <bruenig> it wants to be its own manager
[03:13] <icesword> nikrud, what makes you so happy
[03:13] <unop_> less power to the people!!
[03:13] <piff> is that /bin/less power to the people!!?
[03:13] <yoand1> icesword: let's move to #ubuntu-ops, i would like seen ubuntu as a certified os for oracle, to cut my company's cost :),  $1K annual per redhat server... uff
[03:13] <nikrud> icesword in a word, Friday.
[03:13] <yoand1> icesword: thanks.
[03:14] <sensae> Well /var/log/Xorg.0.conf shows it's using xorg.conf. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60493/ But I can't get it to switch to 1680x1050, it demands to be in 1280x1024
[03:14] <icesword> nikrud, yeah,good day
[03:14]  * Fryguy-- wonders why he doesn't have any problems with linux like these people do :/
[03:15] <nikrud> sensae the log would be interesting, but also: did you by any chance set the resolution with system->prefs->screen resolution? It overrides xorg.conf
[03:15] <efirewic2> sFEARs: I "im'd" you... I was trying to figure out that little pblm...
[03:15] <unop_> sensae, is 1680x1050 a valid mode supported by your adapter?? verify using this command -- xrandr -q -s 0
[03:16] <newtubuntu> anybody know how to recover data from an ext3 filesystem folder ?
[03:16] <sensae> nikrud: I may have set it to what it was already set to, lol. However, it doesn't even list the proper resolutions there
[03:16] <sensae> unop_: Works in Windows. Let me test the command.
[03:16] <icesword> newtubuntu, did you overwrite,try testdisk
[03:16] <nikrud> sensae then the log would be even more interesting
[03:16] <Fryguy--> newtubuntu: if it's deleted, then it's deleted.  Call a data recovery specialist if you actually want the data back
[03:16] <newtubuntu> I did not overwrite yes
[03:16] <h3xis> i'm trying to format a disk to fat32 using gparted, however fat32 is grayed out in the list of filesystems that i can choose from. anyone know why this may be?
[03:16] <unop_> sensae, works in windows - because you might have the right drivers loaded in windows ..
[03:16] <newtubuntu> what is testdisk ?
[03:16] <sensae> unop_: It says maximum is 1280x1024, though my card + monitor supports it. I'm using VESA. This is a fresh install
[03:16] <nikrud> !recover | newtubuntu
[03:16] <ubotu> newtubuntu: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Remember that it's tricky to recover deleted files from your journalled !filesystem, and you should keep !backups of important data.
[03:16] <Fryguy--> newtubuntu: any other recommendation you follow is only going to lower the chance of data recovery
[03:17] <nikrud> ouch!!
[03:17] <Fryguy--> sensae: vesa maxes out at SVGA, you need to use a real adapter
[03:17] <efirewic2> sensae: what's you vid card?
[03:17] <Fryguy--> err, a real driver
[03:17] <unop_> sensae, what kind of apapter is it?
[03:17] <unop_> adapter*
[03:17] <sensae> ATI X1800 All in Wonder
[03:17] <sFEARs> efirewic2, you have a private message
[03:17] <icesword> newtubuntu, google it
[03:17] <unop_> sensae, you'll need to load the ATI modules -- see !ATI
[03:18] <nikrud> sensae system->admin-restricted manager, enable ati restricted and reboot
[03:18] <Kira> *sigh*, we have 1000m residential fiber in HK but the HK Ubuntu archive mirror is so f'ing slow. A shame.
[03:18] <efirewic2> Lot's o fun with ati...
[03:18] <overridex> is there an easy way to remove all my old kernels/kernel modules?
[03:18] <sensae> nikrud: Running KDE, no restricted manager. #kubuntu wasn't being any help at all :/
[03:18] <sensae> Unless I just can't find it
[03:18] <Fryguy--> sensae: run "restricted-manager"
[03:18] <icesword> newtubuntu, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[03:19] <nikrud> sensae sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules$(uname -r) xorg-driver-fglrx , edit vesa to fglrx , and reboot
[03:21] <nikrud> sensae typo in my line, did you try Fryguy-- 's thing (quicker, easier)
[03:21] <sensae> nikrud: Yeah I'm just using restricted-manager
[03:21] <sensae> Wish me luck - restarting Xorg
[03:21] <Fryguy--> heh, i guessed that that program existed
[03:21] <IcemanV9> overridex: sudo aptitude remove linux-image-2.6.15-28-686 (replace the version nbr that you want to remove)
[03:22] <yowshi> virtualbox guest additions howtoooooh i didnt realize guest additions are in that tab there. in virtualbox at what point would i install those
[03:22] <Fryguy--> you install them in the guest os
[03:22] <overridex> I'm getting an unresolved symbol in /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1  _nv000040gl   since upgrading to hardy... anyone run into this?  can't run any 3d without glx :)
[03:22] <Fryguy--> just mount the iso and run the installer
[03:22] <yowshi> ah ok so after windows is done gotcha
[03:22] <Fryguy--> overridex: #ubuntu+1 for hardy problems
[03:22] <monkey_guru> hey, im not sure whether i should download ubuntu for the chipset of "intel" computers, or x86 for "standard PCs"  i have an intel centrino core duo
[03:23] <Fryguy--> monkey_guru: what are the choices?
[03:23] <monkey_guru> Fryguy--: Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM) 				 				64bit AMD and Intel computers
[03:23] <unop_> overridex, you running an nvidia card?
[03:23] <Fryguy--> monkey_guru: get x86
[03:23] <dthacker> Hi.  One of our loco members has not worked with his machine for awhile.  He has lost his password. Now he gets a login prompt of "Nobody" and can't login.  How can he reset the password?
[03:23] <monkey_guru> Fryguy--: ah, whats the difference
[03:24] <hexon> I am trying to run wine /home/hexon/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Microsoft Office/OFFICE11/WINWORD.EXE but the spaces in the folder names wont allow it...How do i fix it?
[03:24] <Fryguy--> monkey_guru: 32bit versus 64bit
[03:24] <Fryguy--> dthacker: log in as root and create/fix the account
[03:24] <sensae> That didn't go so well..
[03:24] <lucretian> hexon: try quoting the executable?
[03:24] <monkey_guru> Fryguy--: and duo isnt 64 bit then huh
[03:24] <xtknight> dthacker, he can go into single-user(Recovery Mode) and type "passwd username" to get a prompt to reset "username"'s password
[03:24] <sensae> It boots to a completely black screen. I'm glad I have a second system
[03:24] <Fryguy--> monkey_guru: it is, but 64bit has some weird quirks in linux, and it's slower than 32bit
[03:24] <dthacker> xtnight: boot with the live CD?
[03:24] <yowshi> Fryguy--: heh i have the 64 bit version since i have a 64bit processor. i originally tried to install the 32bit version of 7.06 but it wouldnt even boot
[03:24] <xtknight> dthacker, recovery mode appears at the GRUB start.  standard boot
[03:24] <unop_> hexon,   wine "/path/to/exec with spaces"
[03:24] <hexon> lucretian: should i put the entire thing in "quotes"?
[03:24] <hexon> oh
[03:25] <hexon> let me try it
[03:25] <monkey_guru> Fryguy--: i see, thanks for the advice. for other stuff in the future, i should choose 64 bit then right?
[03:25] <lucretian> hexon: like this: wine "/home/hexon/.wine/drive_c/blahblahblah/"
[03:25] <piff> the entire path, hexon
[03:25] <yowshi> Fryguy--: the 32bit install cd spat out an invalid archetecture kind of message
[03:25] <Fryguy--> monkey_guru: no
[03:25] <efirewic2> sensae: you are probably going to have to edit the xorg.conf manually.
[03:25] <xtknight> dthacker, sometimes you need to press ESC at bootup to show the grub menu.  Recovery Mode is there.
[03:25] <monkey_guru> Fryguy--: ok cool thanks.
[03:25] <sensae> efirewic2: Control / Alt + Fkeys (Don't remember the virtual terminal keys) does nothing.
[03:26] <overridex> unop_: yeah
[03:26] <unop_> sensae, it's F7 -- but you might like to try this -- sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:26] <lucretian> 1-6 is vtty, 7 is X:0, f8 is X:1
[03:26] <Possu2> if i downloaded 7.10 now, would I be safe to keep it on my computer and just install the OS update to Heron when it comes out? I don't want to have to reload everything and do a new install
[03:27] <sensae> I can't get it to switch out of 7. I don't even have a bash prompt.
[03:27] <Fryguy--> Possu2: yes ubuntu upgrades in place just fine
[03:27] <yowshi> Possu2: yes
[03:27] <unop_> overridex, you enabled the resitricted modules?  see !nvidia if you havent
[03:27] <Fryguy--> sensae: use the other ctrl and alt keys
[03:27] <jrib> Possu2: yes, as long as you stick to official repositories for your software
[03:27] <efirewic2> sensae: when you restart your machine do it in recovery mode and run sudo nano -w etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:27] <sensae> Fryguy--: No dice. Restarting
[03:27] <efirewic2> change the driver to ati
[03:28] <overridex> unop_: yeah, i have... shows up in use there, and it's running, just not the glx part of it
[03:28] <Possu2> will they have more servers hosting the update? I remember that on the last OS update it took me 3 days to actually get a decent speed
[03:28] <Fryguy--> Possu2: probably not
[03:29] <jrib> Possu2: did you use a local mirror?
[03:29] <sensae> efirewic2: Okay, changed it from fglrx to ati. Restarting and crossing fingers
[03:29] <poseidon> wubi says that it installs ubuntu 8.04 beta, but when I download the installer it says it's going to install ubuntu 7.10
[03:29] <nikrud> Possu2 find a fast local mirror
[03:29] <unop_> overridex, try this -- sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules$(uname -r) xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:29] <overridex> what does "pn" mean in dpkg -l for a package?
[03:29] <Possu2> ok, being in wyoming I woudl probably have to look to Colorado?
[03:30] <jrib> !mirror > possu2 (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:30] <overridex> unop_: for some reason hardy intalled nvidia-glx-new instead of nvidia-glx for me...
[03:30] <mcopple> possu2: If you try to upgrade immediately after release, it will be horribly slow. But if you give it a week, it should be much faster.
[03:30] <sensae> efirewic2: A slight improvement. It now boots to a text only login
[03:30] <jrib> Possu2: or just use the System -> Administration -> Software Sources  to find one for you
[03:30] <efirewic2> sensae: that's not all...
[03:30] <Fryguy--> overridex: #ubuntu+1 for hardy problems
[03:30] <unop_> overridex, sounds reasonable -- should be ok
[03:30] <Possu2> thanks
[03:30] <efirewic2> sensae: you should make sure default depth is 24
[03:30] <nikrud> overridex purged, no action desired
[03:30] <overridex> nikrud: thanks
[03:31] <efirewic2> sensae: you should add virtual size of 1024 x 768
[03:31] <sensae> efirewic2: It is set to 24. Virtual size?
[03:31] <belkinhelp2> !bittorrent
[03:31] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[03:31] <belkinhelp2> oh...thats quit a bit of clients
[03:31] <nich0s> Ok. Once upon a time I was using Linux and I had this super cool, yet amazingly nerd IRC client that was based out of a term. What would it have been calleD?
[03:31] <lucretian> irssi
[03:31] <Starnestommy> nich0s: irssi?
[03:31] <belkinhelp2> is anyone familiar with bittorrent on ubuntu?
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> belkinhelp2, oh yes, yes i am
[03:32] <nikrud> bitchx
[03:32] <Fryguy--> nikrud: irssi
[03:32] <jrib> nich0s: irssi, weechat, bitchx, one of those probably
[03:32] <belkinhelp2> I just downloaded a file and would like to seed it, how would i go about doing that?
[03:32] <benplaut> anybody around here using two-finger scrolling on their touchpad?
[03:32] <nich0s> Starnestommy, I love you. :P
[03:32] <lucretian> if it was really super cool, definitely irssi
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy | nikrud
[03:32] <ubotu> nikrud: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:32] <nikrud> Fryguy-- yeah yeah just had to
[03:32] <Possu2> it should seed automatically
[03:32] <nich0s> lol
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> just kidding, of course :)
[03:32] <BlackChaos> i installed unrar but i still cant extract rar files
[03:32] <nich0s> Yall are incredibly helpful! :)
[03:32] <lucretian> bitchx is a terminal IRC client
[03:32] <nikrud> Daisuke_Ido you were not far off the mark ;)
[03:32] <evand> poseidon: don't download it from wubi-installer.org
[03:32] <evand> it's on the CD
[03:32] <lucretian> oh, I see
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> belkinhelp2, you're best using deluge or azureus
[03:32] <Fryguy--> nikrud: missed nickcomplete. sorry
[03:32] <evand> just put the CD in the computer when you're in Windows
[03:32] <BorisDmitri> i have an acl883 audio (using snd_hda_intel) somebody know how can i enable 5.1 audio?
[03:33] <poseidon> O, ok
[03:33] <Possu2> i have had problems with azureus taking up huge resources..i don't know if i am the only one
[03:33] <efirewic2> sensae: add the line virtual 1024 768
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it's java
[03:33] <CrossFireManiac> evening all..... I need some help to add cairo dock to auto start, I am using CF as well
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it happens
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> deluge is another good choice, probably the most utorrent-like of all of them
[03:33] <piff> CrossFire: KDE?
[03:34] <CrossFireManiac> gnome
[03:34] <[agatha]> well ok after a bit of "stuff" i still miss the options to turn off the pc and to reboot it... yet the windows behave normally... any clue why may that be?
[03:34]  * Fryguy-- would like to give honorable mention to rtorrent
[03:34] <dontpanic> Is there any way to check how packages were removed?
[03:34] <dthacker> xtknight: can you useradd from recovery mode?
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> Fryguy--, oh, most definitely, for a terminal client.
[03:34] <belkinhelp2> well how do you use the standard torrent already installed?
[03:34] <nich0s> Starnestommy: YAY! This is exactly what I remember. Thank you.
[03:34] <Possu2> i like azuereus because if there is a collection of files and there are some you want and some you don't want you can remove the ones you see fit
[03:34] <dontpanic> For some reason samba just got uninstalled by itself somehow
[03:34] <sFEARs> BorisDmitri, in your mixer make sure IEC958 switch is turned on.. and sometimes the volume slider for IEC958 playback has to be turned to 0 to activate extra features on higher end audio cards
[03:34] <Fryguy--> Possu2: i think every single client in existance supports that
[03:34] <downstairs> quick question: anyone know of an inexpensive pci-e graphics card?
[03:34] <Possu2> i am not finding that on bittorrent
[03:35] <downstairs> that's at least 128MB
[03:35] <xtknight> dthacker, why, did "passwd username" not work for changing username's password
[03:35] <unop_> dontpanic, perhaps -- aptitude why-not samba
[03:35] <sensae> efirewic2: I see the Virtual command on the xorg documentation. It's not clear what it does, and setting it / trying to start Xorg did nothing.
[03:35] <lucretian> downstairs: look on newegg
[03:35] <lucretian> downstairs: well, are you europe or north america?
[03:35] <xtknight> dthacker, you just need to change a passowrd right?  but ya useradd works
[03:35] <downstairs> North america
[03:35] <dontpanic> unop_: I already installed it
[03:35] <dontpanic> unop_: (again)
[03:36] <efirewic2> sensae: add it in the "display" section?
[03:36] <sensae> efirewic2: Yes I did
[03:36] <BlackChaos> please im trying to extract rar files
[03:36] <unop_> dontpanic, i dont think there's a way then -- does it matter now?
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> downstairs, a 7300gs would be a good choice
[03:36] <dthacker> xtknight: I'm not sure if he remembers his username, so I thought I might have him add one.  thanks
[03:36] <lucretian> downstairs: look here http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609641&name=PCI+Express+x16
[03:36] <dontpanic> unop_: Well... It would be best if random packages weren't removing themselves
[03:36] <dontpanic> unop_: I was just wondering if theres a kind of history
[03:36] <xtknight> dthacker, oh.  you can list usernames
[03:36] <dontpanic> unop_: The why-not thing is still very useful though, thanks
[03:37] <xtknight> dthacker, just type "cat /etc/passwd"
[03:37] <sensae> efirewic2: It's dying with no screens found
[03:37] <efirewic2> sensae: below the default depth it lists out modes. leave 1024x768 and 800x600
[03:37] <xtknight> dthacker, and you will probably recognize a username somewhere in there
[03:37] <downstairs> daisuke_ido:thanks, but what brand is that?
[03:37] <Fryguy--> more specifically, though it's not 100% would be 'grep bash /etc/passwd'
[03:37] <BorisDmitri> sFEARs: iec 958 is tyrned on, bot no level for IEC on the mixer
[03:37] <xtknight> ya that's better
[03:37] <unop_> dontpanic, it was probably uninstalled because something conflicted with an installed package but you required the conflicting package to be installed -- pay more attention to warnings and errors :)
[03:37] <nikrud> unop_ when in the world did why-not appear? that is so cool ;)
[03:37] <xtknight> dthacker, follow Fryguy-- 's suggestion "grep bash /etc/passwd" it will list any worthwihle users
[03:38] <dthacker> xtknight: ok, will do
[03:38] <unop_> nikrud, sometime in the last release  -- i dunno when -- it doesn't appear to be in debian's aptitude
[03:38] <dontpanic> unop_: Ok, thanks
[03:38] <downstairs> lucretian: thanks
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> downstairs, no clue
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it's an nvidia card
[03:38] <sensae> efirewic2: They are still there. The log simply says "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[03:38] <downstairs> lol, daisuke_ido
[03:38] <efirewic2> sensae: I have a generic xorg I'll send you. what kind of monitor do youhave?
[03:38] <downstairs> ok thanks
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> different manufacturers produce them
 are you using a LCD or a CRT monitor
[03:39] <AndA1-2-3> ?
[03:39] <sensae> efirewic2: It's an Acer AL22W. 22 inch 16:10 LCD
[03:39] <BorisDmitri> sFEARs: also, the mixer only shows front channel
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i just named a particular chipset/model that would be a good price
[03:39] <dontpanic> unop_: Wouldn't /var/log/apt/ have all the info in?
[03:39] <efirewic2> sensae: what pci port is the ati card on?
[03:39] <AndA1-2-3> sensae you need to reconfigure your xorg.conf to include the refresh rate and supported resolutions for your video card / monitor combo.
[03:40] <belkinhelp2> ok, so going to the bittorrent site an downloading another client and attempting to install it wont work.  The error msg given is that there is already a client installed.  What to do?
[03:40] <downstairs> has anyone bought from newegg?
[03:40] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Even though all I've changed is the driver?
[03:40] <downstairs> i wouold like to be safe.
[03:40] <BorisDmitri> downstaris : i have
[03:40] <Fryguy--> downstairs: i have
[03:40] <downstairs> (but i have bought from ebay, so....)
[03:40] <unop_> dontpanic, perhaps -- depends on how the package was installed/uninstalled -- you could have a look
[03:40] <sensae> efirewic2: PCI:1:0:0
[03:40] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, what module were you using and what module are you using now?
[03:41] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: I was using VESA, I used the restricted-manager to install the fglrx driver (black screen) so I switched to the ati driver.
[03:41] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Now the x server just dies with no screens found
[03:41] <AndA1-2-3> Yes, then you need to reconfigure it.
[03:42] <sFEARs> BorisDmitri, you may have to display the other channels.. just because they're not shown doesn't mean they're not there
[03:42] <AndA1-2-3> If you paste your xorg.conf to http://pastebin.ca/ then i'll fix it for you.
[03:42] <melhiser> evening all... I'm trying to sort out the "beautification" that the ubuntu dist does during boot time... can anyone point me to the packages that do the nice graphical loading screens?
[03:42] <AndA1-2-3> or you can use  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure xorg.conf yourself.
[03:42] <unop_> sensae, you probably need to reconfigure xorg - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[03:42] <Fryguy--> melhiser: usplash
[03:42] <BorisDmitri> sFEARs: i have activated every channel available  in the mixer preferences
[03:42] <pike_> !usplash | melhiser
[03:42] <ubotu> melhiser: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:42] <GTduffman> I'm using crossover office and when I open word docs on a samba share it still defaults to open office.  However, when I open local docs they will open in word (excel, ppt.. yada yada)... anyone know why I cant open docs on a samba share via MS Office?
[03:42] <AndA1-2-3> melhiser, http://art.gnome.org
[03:42]  * melhiser awards fryguy the hero badge
[03:43] <dthacker> xtknight: this user has "noboby" in his login prompt, and he says it won't clear out.  Suggestions?
[03:43]  * melhiser wonders off to visit usplash docs
[03:43] <sFEARs> that's all i got BorisDmitri, i had to enable IEC958 to get my fiber optics working, i'm not sure what's up with 5.1
[03:43] <xtknight> dthacker, hmm that's odd.  ive never seen that before.  this is at gdm?
[03:43] <unop_> GTduffman, what happens when you copy a file from the samba share (that opens in OO.org) to a local directory and you try and open it then?
[03:43] <Fryguy--> sFEARs: what is wrong?
[03:43] <GTduffman> unop_ it will open in MS Office
[03:43] <AndA1-2-3> dthacker, has he tried restarting GDM?
[03:44] <sFEARs> what is wrong with my problem or BorisDmitri's?
[03:44] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: And how do I do that with a text only interface?
[03:44] <Fryguy--> sFEARs: oh nm, misread
[03:44] <sFEARs> my problem, i can see files i put on my mp3 player from a windows machine
[03:44] <dthacker> AndA1-2-3: how can he kill it?
[03:44] <sFEARs> sorry.. can't* see
[03:44] <BorisDmitri> sFEARs, i do not have fiber, is just 5 speakers (5.1 analog)
[03:44] <GTduffman> I want to open it via the network so it's locked for editing
[03:44] <xtknight> dthacker, he can press ctrl alt backspace
[03:44] <sFEARs> can't see files on my mp3 player from a windows machine
[03:44] <dthacker> xtknight: will it auto restart?
[03:44] <xtknight> dthacker, it just restarts the gnome program
[03:44] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[03:45] <xtknight> dthacker, ya
[03:45] <melhiser> ok, million dollar question... is there ANY way to make the ubuntu install CD only install the basic desktop... not all the nice bits (since all I really need is a VERY basic X desktop)
[03:45] <unop_> GTduffman, I can't think of anything but to check the default application in the file's properties -- i dont use gnome, so, i cant be very helpful
[03:45] <sFEARs> i know BorisDmitri, but the IEC958 has to do with higher end audio cards.. so if you audio card process true dolby 5.1 it's a higher end card
[03:45] <AndA1-2-3> dthacker, in a bash prompt "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[03:45]  * melhiser needs a dumb X-Terminal
[03:45] <Fryguy--> melhiser: use a different distro like xubuntu, or use ubuntu server and then build up from there.  Or consider using a different distro
[03:45] <GTduffman> bummer... in the nautilus properties it's set to use MS office, but when I double click it still opens in OO
[03:45] <pike_> melhiser: server install using the alternate install cd then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xfonts-base
[03:45] <Cinderella> hey, I got a problem.. I need an MP3 player program that supports playback to 2 different sound cards, any suggestions? :)
[03:46] <Fryguy--> Cinderella: try xmms2 or mpd'
[03:46] <BorisDmitri> sFEARs: it's an onboard card froma asus motherboard. i don't believe is high end
[03:46] <tux97> hi
[03:46] <Goldstein> Yay I'm using ubuntu
[03:46] <WAKD> melhiser - what you are looking for is best done by installing from server and then adding what you need. but you will also need to know what from the server packages you will need mate. there's no 'click here' solution for you.
[03:46] <melhiser> Fryguy: the catch is, I need the Ubuntu dist... cause the "binary" only driver I need only recoginizes the ubuntu 7.10 signature... I've tried faking it with others... but no luck.  I only have a 2gb flash rom to work with.
[03:46] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: No screens found
[03:46] <GTduffman> congrats on using ubuntu.... first time?
[03:47] <Fryguy--> melhiser: so then use ubuntu server and build up from there, or use xubuntu, like i said
[03:47] <melhiser> WAKD: this sounds like what I want...
[03:47] <Goldstein> to linux no
[03:47] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, try going through it manually then. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:47] <GTduffman> Goldstein, what was your last distro?
[03:47] <melhiser> WAKD: I just needed the usplash bit... I want my users to have a pretty screen to look at during load... they get scared when they see text ;)
[03:48] <Goldstein> i've used all from edgy on
[03:48] <unop_> melhiser, maybe some text you can include is "don't be alarmed, this is a routine .... " :)
[03:48] <efirewic2> sensae: I'm sending you that xorg
[03:48] <melhiser> unop: lol
[03:48] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: No dice
[03:48] <sensae> efirewic2: Alright, though I'm at a loss as to how to get it over there
[03:49] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, what is the model of your graphix card?
[03:49] <Vadi> How can I tell what kind of a CPU do I have from the terminal?
[03:49] <melhiser> if only my users could read... err... would read... I don't know which ... but text makes my phone ring FAR too much
[03:49] <Fryguy--> Vadi: look at /proc/cpuinfo
[03:49] <Vadi> fryguy: exact command please?
[03:49] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: ATI X1800 All in Wonder
[03:49] <Fryguy--> Vadi: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:49] <Goldstein> before that I played around with dsl linux and the puppy linux
[03:49] <AndA1-2-3> old
[03:49] <AndA1-2-3> hold*
[03:49] <AndA1-2-3> ok
[03:49] <efirewic2> sensae: at least try and compare it, a few things were thrown in generic but it should work with your card...
[03:49] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, give me the result of this command.
[03:50] <BorisDmitri> sFEARs: i just want to be able to play 5 channel audo from dvds to 5 analog speakers.
[03:50] <GTduffman> anyone here running the 8.04 beta?
[03:50] <tarro_kul> #surabaya
[03:50] <Fryguy--> GTduffman: join #ubuntu+1
[03:50] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 64 Bit; OpenOffice refuses to start. Tried completely removing the whole suite through synaptic. And installing it fresh. Still getting the same error message: "Error forking '/usr/lib/openoffice/program//soffice': 'Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice" (Bad address)'"
[03:50] <AndA1-2-3> sudo grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:50] <Vadi> fryguy: thanks much
[03:50] <AndA1-2-3> ok sensae ?
[03:50] <bluebanana> P3 650 Mhz, 192 SDRAM computer--- What ubuntu flavor should/can i use?
[03:50] <AndA1-2-3> you'll see your video card driver in there
[03:50] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: ati
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> bluebanana, xubuntu
[03:50] <GTduffman> ahh.. ok, i'm not running it.. i was just wondering what percentage of folks use the beta
[03:50] <AndA1-2-3> yep
[03:50] <sensae> Same one I selected when doing dpkg-reconfigure
[03:50] <unop_> AndA1-2-3, you shouldnt need to use grep there - :)
[03:50] <dthacker> bluebanana: xubuntu
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> and it will still feel a bit sluggish
[03:51] <AndA1-2-3> why not unop_
[03:51] <bluebanana> Daisuke_Ido: dthacker: thanks.
[03:51] <AndA1-2-3> better than lessing through it.
[03:51] <bluebanana> i'll find xubuntu beta 2008 somewhere
[03:51] <unop_> AndA1-2-3, because the file is usually world readable
[03:51] <bluebanana> ...online
[03:51] <AndA1-2-3> I just wanted lines containing "Driver"
[03:51] <sensae> unop_: You mean sudo?
[03:51] <AndA1-2-3> Anyway.
[03:51] <unop_> AndA1-2-3, sorry -- i meant -- you ddidnt need to use sudo -- lol :)
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> unop_, so why would he not use grep?  sudo maybe?
[03:51] <sFEARs> what do you plan on hooking up 5 speakers to BorisDmitri?
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> late again
[03:51] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, is this a desktop or a laptop?
[03:52] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: desktop
[03:52] <IcemanV9> bluebanana: or you can use server iso to build up from there
[03:52] <AndA1-2-3> unop_, i dont know if he's "sudo -i"ed in.
[03:52] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, what is the make/model of your monitor
[03:52] <unop_> AndA1-2-3, well, whatever the case - xorg.conf can be read by anyone
[03:52] <bluebanana> IcemanV9: why build up from server iso?
[03:52] <AndA1-2-3> ok unop_
[03:52] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Acer AL2216W. 22 inch 16:10 LCD
[03:53] <AndA1-2-3> old on sensae
[03:53] <IcemanV9> bluebanana: if you cannot find xbuntu beta
[03:53] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: so you can customize what you want and have a little bit less cruft
[03:53] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 64 Bit; OpenOffice refuses to start. Tried completely removing the whole suite through synaptic. And installing it fresh. Still getting the same error message: "Error forking '/usr/lib/openoffice/program//soffice': 'Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice" (Bad address)'"
[03:53] <bluebanana> Fryguy--: isee
[03:53] <bluebanana> i see
[03:53] <BorisDmitri> sFEARs; to the 3 plugs on the back of my motherboard. one is for front speakers, the second can be used for a mic or rear speakers, and the third for input or center/sub speakers. it only uses the front speakers
[03:53] <dhc000465> .
[03:54] <bluebanana> i have 2 older computers with serial ports. Can i transfer the serial port over to my newer computer, so that my newer comp has a serial port?
[03:54] <Fryguy--> BorisDmitri: what are you playing back to test?
[03:54] <BorisDmitri> help. anyone? i have an acl883 audio (using snd_hda_intel) somebody know how can i enable 5.1 audio?
[03:54] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, "grep -i HorizSync /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:54] <BorisDmitri> Fryguy" a dvd
[03:54] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, "grep -i VertRefresh /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:55] <tarro_kul> #surabaya
[03:55] <unop_> Ademan,  you could try reinstalling oo.org -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org2
[03:55] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: 30-82 and 56-76 respectively
[03:55] <AndA1-2-3> thats incorrect.
[03:55] <Integration> say I try to connect a client to my AP (access point) what exactly does it mean by client?
[03:55] <AndA1-2-3>    HorizSync 31.5 - 67.0
[03:55] <AndA1-2-3>    VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0
[03:55] <AndA1-2-3> you need to edit your xorg.conf to those settings.
[03:56] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Still no dice
[03:56] <AndA1-2-3> we're not done.
[03:56] <AndA1-2-3> are you sure you changed it?
[03:56] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Oh alright XP
[03:56] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Yes I'm sure.
[03:57] <unop_> Integration, that could be a PC, laptop, xbox, psp, mobile phone, camera, fridge, bed, car, etc etc :)
[03:57] <Alan_M> later everyone
[03:57] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, change the following
[03:57] <AndA1-2-3> http://pastebin.ca/raw/952421
[03:57] <shonen> xtknight: Hey, this is the guy that was having trouble with dmraid
[03:57] <xtknight> shonen, oh
[03:58] <shonen> I'm installing updates right now
[03:58] <xtknight> shonen, k
[03:58] <bluebanana> a comp has a ram thing that says "8x64". Does that mean it's got 512 MB of ram?
[03:58] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, you need to switch back to VEST and paste me your xorg.conf
[03:58] <xtknight> shonen,  lucky you caught me before i tried some new video driver lol
[03:58] <shonen> cool
[03:58] <nbrunson> I just got a external 1tb drive, ubuntu only registers it as 916GB, and formatted it to ext3. But it says that there is only 870GB free on the disk. Would the journal be taking up that much space? 46GB?
[03:58] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 64 Bit; OpenOffice refuses to start. Tried completely removing the whole suite through synaptic. And installing it fresh. Still getting the same error message: "Error forking '/usr/lib/openoffice/program//soffice': 'Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice" (Bad address)'"
[03:58] <sensae> andar4: VEST?  You mean VESA?
[03:58] <AdemoS> unop_, sorry didn't see you before
[03:58] <unop_> bluebanana, no -- well, it depends where you are reading 8x64 from
[03:58] <WAKD> snap pole : it's 4am - is it worth going to bed? :-)
[03:58] <AdemoS> unop_,  lease try to use my nick so it will highlight your message, otherwise your help can be missed
[03:59] <bluebanana> unop_:  the sticker on the sdram chip/green thing
[03:59] <BorisDmitri> Fryguy: righ now i tried vlc, and used the 5.1 track. i can't ear the caracters conversation because they play in the center channel. all i here is left and right
[03:59] <shonen> xtknight my updates will be done downloading in 16 min, so after that and a reboot or two, we can start troubleshooting this
[03:59] <unop_> AdemoS, did realize that i had the wrong nick --
[03:59] <xtknight> shonen, ah ok
[03:59] <xtknight> shonen, i may be rebooting myself but ill try and get on here
[03:59] <Newbuntu2> I'm having problems reading a file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60369/
[03:59] <AdemoS> unop_, <unop_> Ademan,  you could try reinstalling oo.org -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org2 <--- done and done. I also completlely removed and tried again
[03:59] <AndA1-2-3> vEST = VESA
[03:59] <Newbuntu2> can some one help?
[03:59] <shonen> xtknight ok
[04:00] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: I've switched the driver to VESA and still can't get a display
[04:00] <shonen> sensae have you tried vga?
[04:00] <unop_> bluebanana, I dont think so -- that probably refers to the architecture of the motherboard that this RAM is compatible with
[04:00] <bluebanana> unop_: i see
[04:01] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, you need to go back through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure you're choosing the right options.
[04:01] <AndA1-2-3> you need to choose ATI and choose "simple" configuration on the monitor section.
[04:01] <AndA1-2-3> then choose the size of your LCD.
[04:01] <belkinhelp2> does ubuntu come with something like VNC?
[04:01] <AndA1-2-3> choose some low resolutions.
[04:02] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: yes
[04:02] <unop_> AdemoS, I think you might need to completely purge _all_ of the oo.org packages and have them reinstalled --
[04:02] <efirewic1> sennsae: that card is going to perform the best probably with the ati driver
[04:02] <AndA1-2-3> belkinhelp2, X11 over SSH
[04:02] <unop_> AdemoS,   sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i openoffice | cut -c 3-30); sudo aptitude install openoffice.org2
[04:02] <AdemoS> hmm
[04:02] <belkinhelp2> is this x11 over ssh found in the synaptic package manager?
[04:02] <AdemoS> are you sure that won't cause any other issues?
[04:02] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=38185524
[04:02] <unop_> AdemoS, what do you mean?
[04:03] <silent> what was the special parameters or whatever for dual core "make " builds?
[04:03] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: it
[04:03] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: it's already installed
[04:03] <AdemoS> unop_, I'm just cautious of using console commands I've never heard of before.
[04:03] <AdemoS> unop_, but if you're sure it's safe, I'll try it
[04:03] <belkinhelp2> oh
[04:03] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: I got the x server to run in VESA. Still want my xorg.conf?
[04:03] <AndA1-2-3> yes
[04:03] <BorisDmitri> belkinhelp: for x11 over ssh, just  use ssh -X hostname
[04:03] <AndA1-2-3> paste it to http://pastebin.ca
[04:03] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Alright. I've gotten this working before on this exact machine, dunno why it's such a pain this time
[04:04] <AndA1-2-3> cause you're moving too fast sensae
[04:04] <AdemoS> unop_, so after purging, just install from repo normally?
[04:04] <unop_> AdemoS, well, it's safe -- but you should watch what is happening and take actions accordingly, no?
[04:04] <unop_> AdemoS, yes
[04:04] <AdemoS> unop_, okay thanks
[04:04] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, just use Remote desktop
[04:04] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, system preferences remote desktop
[04:04] <xtknight> this is xVNC
[04:05] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: http://pastebin.ca/952425
[04:05] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, for a client, vncviewer is the vnc client.  remote desktop is a vnc server for your desktop.
[04:05] <AndA1-2-3> hold sensae
[04:06] <AndA1-2-3> well A sensae
[04:06] <AndA1-2-3> you have your display section IN your screen section.
[04:06] <AndA1-2-3> That'd do it.
[04:07] <fxd> there are vertical bars whenever i try to play a video file, can anyone help me?
[04:07] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Isn't it a subsection? Also: That's how my xorg.conf was when I installed
[04:08] <AndA1-2-3> you sure?
[04:08] <talcite> is there a way to have the system email me when someone uses sudo?
[04:08] <AndA1-2-3> What version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:08] <AdemoS> unop_, purage appeared to work, error during install: http://pastebin.ca/952429
[04:08] <AndA1-2-3> If it was a subsection wouldn't it say "End Subsection"?
[04:08] <unop_> talcite, you could always monitor the /var/log/auth.log file
[04:08] <AndA1-2-3> oh im trippin.
[04:08] <AndA1-2-3> my bad.
[04:08] <AndA1-2-3> ahaha
[04:09] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: Very sure. I installed right before joining this channel, lol. I peeked at the xorg.conf before using any automated tools. It's Kubuntu 7.10 (I'd be in #kubuntu but they aren't being helpful)
[04:09] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, paste me the oldest xorg.conf you have in /etc/X11 also please.
[04:09] <josh_marshall> ssh -X user@host
[04:09] <fxd> can anyone help me with a video playback problem?
[04:09] <unop_> AdemoS, pastebin.ca seems to be timing out -- can you use another pastebin -- pastebin.com e.g.
[04:09] <sensae> Man, I'm glad Windows doesn't parse Ctrl+C. I would've killed Mirc so many times trying to kill a process with the wrong keyboard XD
[04:09] <AdemoS> o_O really
[04:09] <AdemoS> okay
[04:10] <talcite> unop_: is there a way to have the server tell me what commands were run as sudo though?
[04:10] <AdemoS> unop_, reposted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60497/
[04:10] <Fryguy--> talcite: BSDs do it, i imagine linux can too
[04:10] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: http://pastebin.ca/952433
[04:11] <unop_> sensae, well it depends what application is running under windows-- but it does recognize ctrl+c as an escape sequence
[04:11] <sensae> unop_: Well true, but it doesn't generally kill programs
[04:12] <Seb> what's with wlan0_rename ?
[04:12] <unop_> talcite, errm -- it might be possible that root's shell's history file is populated -- you could look in there
[04:12] <unop_> AdemoS, and you are getting this output as a result of what command?
[04:13] <mark[oz]> does anyone know how to fix the "can't fast forward movies correctly" bug in ubuntu
[04:13] <mark[oz]> its alllllllllllll movie plays
[04:13] <AdemoS> unop_, as result of pasting your command into the terminal, typing in my sudo password, and typing "y" for each prompt. Download and install for some parts worked, most failed install.
[04:13] <shonen> mark[oz] which program are you using
[04:13] <shonen> and what filetype is doing it
[04:14] <mark[oz]> mplayer, vlc, etc. avi, mov, etc. etc.
[04:14] <shonen> huh wierd
[04:14] <mark[oz]> you name it, if I try fast forward it skips about 30 seconds, and it jumps
[04:14] <mark[oz]> nah no way shonen its never worked correctly since horay, on the last 4-5 pc's I've had
[04:14] <mark[oz]> is there a package or something?
[04:14] <mark[oz]> is there anything?
[04:14] <AndA1-2-3> sensae, try this one http://pastebin.ca/raw/952434
[04:15] <unop_> AdemoS,  ok, make sure this command runs first -- let's take it step by step -  sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i openoffice | cut -c 3-30);
[04:15] <AndA1-2-3> you can wget it and change its name and whaat not.
[04:15] <AdemoS> unop_, okay
[04:15] <shonen> mark[oz] i don't know. I'm still running gibbon, so I guess I can't help you. sorry.
[04:15] <AdemoS> unop_, success
[04:15] <il3dsm> hey, does anyone know if it is possible to download and install a program from a browser without users consent using a java applet?
[04:16] <mark[oz]> ?? shonen ...
[04:16]  * mark[oz] walks away
[04:16] <bluebanana> I want to install Xubuntu on a computer which has no Ubuntu/Linux on it yet. I want to save from using a CD. Can I install from a USB-connected iPod?
[04:16] <unop_> AdemoS, ok, then this -- sudo aptitude install openoffice.org2   (mind the 2, it's required)
[04:16] <bluebanana> Can I put the xubuntu.iso  onto the iPod to install onto the comp?
[04:17] <AdemoS> unop_, okay, are you sure using the synaptic gui is inferior?
[04:17] <bluebanana> sorry i left for a minute. if anyone said something when i was gone, please say so again
[04:17] <fxd> can anybody help me with a video playback problem?
[04:17] <unop_> AdemoS, no -- it should achieve the same thing -- but it's easier to troubleshoot with the cli
[04:17] <AdemoS> unop_, alright will do
[04:18] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: No dice. No screens found. I give up for now, I've gotta get going.
[04:18] <unop_> AdemoS, another thing is I dont have a synaptic to work on too
[04:18] <AdemoS> unop_, "y" to all prompts?
[04:18] <AndA1-2-3> ok man.
[04:18] <AndA1-2-3> read up on it.
[04:18] <AndA1-2-3> you're close.
[04:18] <unop_> AdemoS, sure -- if you do run into trouble -- paste then entire output including the command, etc
[04:19] <AdemoS> unop_, okay
[04:19] <unop_> s/paste/pastebin/
[04:19] <AdemoS> unop_, yup here it comes, same error
[04:19] <sensae> AndA1-2-3: I will. If I have no luck I'll hop back in here when I have more brain power. Thanks for the help.
[04:19] <AdemoS> unop_, will paste entire thing when it's done...failing
[04:19] <unop_> AdemoS, ok, i'll wait
[04:20] <AdemoS> unop_, thanks
[04:20] <silent> ./configure
[04:20] <silent> lulz
[04:20] <GoldeNArX> hey guys.  attempting to use the vnc function (over internet) its on a test box so no data worries.  the ports are forwarded but is the vnc server that comes with ubuntu listening on the generic vncports?
[04:20] <AdemoS> unop_, current failure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60499/
[04:21] <belkinhelp2> ok, i started remote desktop.  On my windows machine the vnc client is asking for the server name.  What would that be?  Or better question is, where on ubuntu can i find the machine name?
[04:21] <GoldeNArX> belkinhelp2 : the RDP client wont work for you.  you have to get a vnc client
[04:21] <belkinhelp2> Ugh
[04:21] <belkinhelp2> ok
[04:21] <GoldeNArX> its free
[04:21] <belkinhelp2> thats even better
[04:21] <Dr__Willis> belkinhelp2,  use the ip # of the machine - is easiest
[04:21] <GoldeNArX> get tightvnc and install the viewer only.
[04:22] <DCLXVI> sorry about the confusion, thanks for the quick fix
[04:22] <unop_> AdemoS, ok, this should do it -   sudo aptitude install openoffice.org openoffice.org-core  openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-java-common
[04:22] <technolab> hi
[04:22] <AdemoS> unop_, hmm the java eh?
[04:23] <AdemoS> unop_, trying now
[04:23] <AdemoS> unop_, run purge first?
[04:23] <DarthJim> When trying to install (at the partition phase) I get an error: "Failed to create a swap space. Creation of swap space in partition #5... failed" It's a 40GB drive; AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
[04:23] <unop_> AdemoS, no no- not necessary -- it's a no-op anyway, it wouldnt do anything since everythings already purged
[04:24] <AdemoS> unop_, affirmative, running most recent command
[04:24] <Meshezabeel> if I install hardy testing 6, will there be any problems upgrading to the full version when it comes out?
[04:25] <unop_> Meshezabeel, shouldnt be -- but best to ask for hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <Meshezabeel> tx :)
[04:25] <unop_> AdemoS, any luck?
[04:26] <AdemoS> unop_, nope, new error though http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60500/
[04:26] <bluebanana>  is it possible to install Xubuntu onto a computer from an iPod that is connected to it
[04:26] <blbrown> general server question.  I have setup a host with a virtual hosting service and already have a domain associated with it.  Can I have a two domains point to the same ip?
[04:26] <bluebanana> I want to save my CDs
[04:26] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: if the computer supports booting from usb it should work
[04:26] <bluebanana> Fryguy--: ok. cool.
[04:26] <bluebanana> Fryguy--: how should i prepare the iPod?
[04:26] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: why didn't you just try it instead of asking
[04:26] <bluebanana> Do i have to create anything special?
[04:26] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: no idea
[04:27] <GeraldBurns> excuse me, but why isn't there a ubuntu version called "Swarthy Swashbuckler"?
[04:27] <mark[oz]> your mum took it already?
[04:27] <bluebanana> GeraldBurns: where not in the letter "S" yet, that's why?
[04:27] <bluebanana> 8-)
[04:27] <Fryguy--> GeraldBurns: it's on the list of possible candidates when we get to letter S
[04:27] <Dr__Willis> The !install factoid covers isntalling in alterantive ways.. but - it  may be beyond many people new to linux.
[04:27] <GeraldBurns> well, when you get there, call me
[04:28] <nich0s> bluebanana: If it works, no. :) If it doesn't, come back and we'll brainstorm a little. I knwo there are a couple of doze based applications for modifying usbsticks
[04:28] <mark[oz]> we'll ask her nicely
[04:28] <technolab> help me how to configer apchi websaver
[04:28] <mark[oz]> technolab, #apache
[04:28] <Fryguy--> technolab: #apache
[04:28] <mark[oz]> jinx!
[04:28] <unop_> AdemoS, for some reason the openoffice.org-core package is failing to be installed -- one sec
[04:28] <AdemoS> unop_, btw, OpenOffice used to work in the past. It did upgrade recently and I haven't used it till now, with issues.  Is there a better/easier way to prepare a hdd for installation (it's not empty at the moment).
[04:29] <fxd> can anybody help me with a video playback problem
[04:29] <fxd> ?
[04:29] <GeraldBurns> hint: hostmasks can be useful for identifying someone's country
[04:29] <mark[oz]> :) I hope so Ademan
[04:29]  * melhiser runs around boinking wallabies
[04:29] <mark[oz]> :) I hope so AdemoS
[04:29] <Dr__Willis> mark[oz],  guess he showed you!
[04:29] <shonen> xtknight:rebooting after updates. brb
[04:29] <mark[oz]> Dr_willis, ??
[04:29] <GeraldBurns> you have to reboot a unbutu machine after updates?
[04:29] <GeraldBurns> ha
[04:29] <melhiser> fxd: only if you help me first
[04:29] <GeraldBurns> i don't have to do that with my windows machine
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[04:30] <unop_> AdemoS, ok, can you issue this command first and then the last one again -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall util-linux
[04:30] <GeraldBurns> sounds superior in my opinion..
[04:30] <fxd> melhiser: uh, i'll try
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> no, no you don't have to reboot after ubuntu updates.
[04:30] <GeraldBurns> yes you do
[04:30] <mark[oz]> lol, GeraldBurns go buy a mac
[04:30] <Fryguy--> GeraldBurns: ubuntu users don't have to do it either, unless it's a kernel update
[04:30] <AdemoS> unop_, what is util-linux? sounds important
[04:30] <unop_> AdemoS, and we are installing the same packages you installed via synaptic, just using a different method
[04:30] <GeraldBurns> macs are for black people
[04:30] <rodrigo> use debian, ubuntu sucks
[04:30] <LSD|Ninja> I've been prompted to restart after updates plenty of times in Ubuntu
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> !ops | GeraldBurns
[04:30] <ubotu> GeraldBurns: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[04:30] <yowshi> anyone know how to get virtualbox to use a slave hdd image?
[04:30] <mark[oz]> use freebsd
[04:30] <GeraldBurns> channel emergency?
[04:30] <GeraldBurns> what a bunch of faggots.
[04:30] <unop_> AdemoS, it's the package that contains getopt -- it appears to be missing from your error's output
[04:30] <yowshi> or force it to expand it's curront one
[04:31] <rodrigo> better, user slackware
[04:31] <GeraldBurns> NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIG
[04:31] <GeraldBurns> GERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER
[04:31] <Mazus> ...
[04:31] <LSD|Ninja> hahahaha
[04:31] <mark[oz]> :)
[04:31] <mark[oz]> thankyou
[04:31] <technolab> 6
[04:31] <blbrown> yes
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> trolls :\
[04:31] <nich0s> I knew we were in for it at "go fuck a kangaroo"
[04:31] <melhiser> fxd: I need to find change the via_fb_free function to work with the V4L stack change in the 2.6.22 -> 2.2.24 release cycle so the VIA chipset drivers for the CX700M2 will do hardware mpeg2/4 decoding... whats up with you
[04:31] <nich0s> Thanks. :)
[04:31] <mark[oz]> lol
[04:31] <AdemoS> Amaranth, that was like superman. From regular guy, to op, then back into plain clothes :P
[04:31] <AdemoS> unop_,  ooh okay
[04:32] <blbrown> surprised there are still racist in 2008...and he uses Ubuntu...shiver
[04:32] <mark[oz]> he was from the youSofA
[04:32] <LSD|Ninja> AdemoS: exc ept no phone box :P
[04:32] <yowshi> anyone know how to get virtualbox to use a slave hdd image?
[04:32] <yowshi> or force it to expand it's curront one
[04:32] <Ashex> !chroot
[04:32] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:32] <Fryguy--> yowshi: jus tadd another hd
[04:32] <Fryguy--> the config is straightforward
[04:32] <nich0s> blbrown: He's using Win 3.1. He got lost.
[04:32] <blbrown> makes sense
[04:32] <melhiser> fxd: to top it off... VIA doesn't want to play nice and talk about how their chips work on the mini-itx boards they're planted on.
[04:32] <yowshi> Fryguy--: i tried that but the windows installation isnt seeing the second hdd
[04:32]  * nich0s agrees with himself.
[04:32] <Fryguy--> yowshi: pebkac
[04:32] <Phoebus> Does Ubuntu run well on vmware? :)
[04:32] <fxd> melhiser: well, i got nothing on what you just said, i'm just trying to watch season 3 of weeds on my computer and i get vertical lines instead of video with whatever i try to play the file with
[04:32] <Fryguy--> Phoebus: yes
[04:32]  * melhiser runs around poking random peoples eyes out
[04:33] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, depends on the host..
[04:33] <LSD|Ninja> http://www.hexellent.com/files/26/Windows.jpg Windows 3.11 is cool! :P
[04:33] <yowshi> Fryguy--: pebkac?
[04:33] <Fryguy--> yowshi: yes
[04:33] <bluebanana> someone here told me about xubuntu server iso. where is that? I'm looking for 2008 edition
[04:33] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, if the host is windows, you won't get the true ubuntu experience
[04:33] <unop_> AdemoS, any luck?
[04:33] <yowshi> Fryguy--: what is pebkac
[04:33] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: there is ubuntu server, it's right on the main ubuntu page
[04:33] <Fryguy--> yowshi: google is awesome
[04:33] <LSD|Ninja> yowshi: problem exists between keyboard abnd chair
[04:33]  * yowshi sighs
[04:33]  * melhiser looks for Linux Vista 2009
[04:33] <AdemoS> unop_, sorry got delayed, trying now
[04:33] <blbrown> fxd: something wrong with your via graphics card?  I hate to say it, but you probably want a nvidia 5200-6200 or something.  very common and work well with ubu
[04:33] <yowshi> sorry not using chair LOL
[04:34]  * yowshi is sitting on head thats problem
[04:34] <LSD|Ninja> is there anything _right_ about a VIA graphics card? :P
[04:34] <melhiser> blbrown: sorry... not an option... needs to be an embedded system
[04:34] <GoldeNArX> ok so I have confirmed that the built in vnc server isnt listening on 5900. does anyone know what port it is listening on?
[04:34] <blbrown> LSD|Ninja, nothing, my sound card is working and that is about it
[04:34] <fxd> blbrown: any way to watch video without having to get new hardware?
[04:34] <melhiser> blbrown: been down this path... I'm just here for bitching at VIA in a public forum
[04:34] <Alives> i cant figure out how to get lm-sensors to load the right modules at boot... every boot i have to run sensors-detect to get the modules loaded.  lsmod lists lm90 loaded at boot, which is what sensors-detect says to modprobe, but it only works after i run sensors-detect... any ideas?
[04:34] <Fryguy--> GoldeNArX: it's listening on 5900, if it isn't then you don't have it set up correctly
[04:34] <Phoebus> mark[oz], I see... well I've been trying all day to get betrayal in antara to work... with a xp 64-bit host. I tried compatibility: failed. I tried windows 98: sound wouldn't effing work, drives gave me blue screen. Tried  windows 3.11 even, and doh.. I give up. I'm going to vmware linux and run betrayal in antara in WINE lol.
[04:35] <AdemoS> unop_, another error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60501/
[04:35] <unop_> GoldeNArX, could be any one of the ports in the 590X range
[04:35] <bluebanana> Fryguy--: is Server edition = alternate CD?
[04:35] <xtknight> GoldeNArX, well it is listening on 5900.  it's tcp i think
[04:35] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: no
[04:35] <GoldeNArX> ok. is there a way for me to specify that is listens on port 5900 only
[04:35] <GoldeNArX> ?
[04:35] <melhiser> blbrown: I wish NVidia would hurry up and join the mini-itx market space... but their shit runs TOOO damn hot
[04:35] <blbrown> fxd: maybe, there are sometimes flags to set, if I remember that via site wasn't that bad, and had linux information
[04:35] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, the free vmware-server doesn't work on a 64 bit machine.. you'll need to purchase esx
[04:35] <Fryguy--> GoldeNArX: if it's set up correctly then it is listening on 5900
[04:35] <tritium> melhiser: watch the language, please
[04:35] <GoldeNArX> Fryguy-- : i've changed no settings. this is default
[04:35] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, we had the same problem at work on our dell1950's..
[04:35] <melhiser> blbrown: true dat... just not for anything after 2.6.22
[04:35] <blbrown> melhiser, now that you mention it I have two cards.  I probably need to cool my box
[04:36] <Fryguy--> GoldeNArX: then it isn't running
[04:36] <Phoebus> mark[oz], I'm using workshop 6, that doesn't work..?
[04:36] <Phoebus> hmm
[04:36] <bluebanana> Fryguy--: i click the server ed pic, it brings me to http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition. then i go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download, but server ed is n't there
[04:36] <GoldeNArX> yes it is because I can connect to it within the lan.  I need to conenct to it outside of the lan
[04:36] <unop_> AdemoS,  we're running around in circles -- purge oo.org again and run this - let me know when it completes--  sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i openoffice | cut -c 3-30);
[04:36] <GoldeNArX> the "wan" so to speak
[04:36] <blbrown> melhiser, dual monitor/nvidia...sweetness
[04:36]  * melhiser hands blbrown a liquid hydrogen tank
[04:36] <Phoebus> mark[oz], esx as in the server? :X
[04:36] <AdemoS> unop_, so run the previous purage command, then this one?
[04:36] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, esx is a vmware piece of software... what virtualisation software are you using?
[04:37] <tux97> hi
[04:37] <unop_> AdemoS, no no, just this one
[04:37] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: it's there for me, in bold text no less.  Reading skills are important
[04:37] <melhiser> blbrown: nice... now shrink that to a set-top-box size that doesn't need to live in -30c
[04:37] <AdemoS> unop_, okay
[04:37] <mark[oz]> I thought you said vmware somewhere?
[04:37] <fxd> blbrown: i don't have any via hardware
[04:37] <Phoebus> mark[oz], VmWare workstation 6.
[04:37] <blbrown> fxd: shrug?
[04:37]  * melhiser pokes fxd in the eye
[04:37] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, ahh sorry... I miss read it.. uhmm it should work then.
[04:37] <AdemoS> unop_, done
[04:37] <melhiser> fxd: sorry brutha... he got the two of us twixed
[04:37] <Skitzo> hey guys, when i go to add/remove and try to install anything aMSN, VLC, ect. i keep getting the same error, "This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'program name'
[04:37] <mark[oz]> maybe its something for the "vmware" forums.
[04:37] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, maybe its something for the "vmware" forums.
[04:38] <blbrown> melhiser, crap, I only added a extra small fan.
[04:38] <Fryguy--> GoldeNArX: if you can connect to it, then you obviously know which port it's running on
[04:38] <unop_> AdemoS, ok, now, just this one -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall util-linux
[04:38] <AdemoS> unop_, okay
[04:38] <Phoebus> mark[oz], believe me when I say I've tried everything... I'll give esx a try, maybe you're right.
[04:38]  * nich0s le stabs melhiser
[04:38] <AdemoS> unop_, seemd to work
[04:38]  * nich0s with something non-lethal
[04:38] <melhiser> blbrown: might wanna start blowing on that beeotch! ;)
[04:38] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, esx cost a lot of money, and is itself an o/s
[04:38] <bluebanana> Fryguy--: i saw "Server ed" at the bottom. the words weren't in bold.
[04:38] <bluebanana> are you looking at some other words?
[04:38] <unop_> AdemoS, did it complete?
[04:38] <tritium> melhiser: I've already asked you to watch the language
[04:38] <blbrown> melhiser, is there a temperate monitor with apt.  I have an asus board.
[04:38] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, sorry I couldn't help more..
[04:38] <AdemoS> unop_, yes, it seemed to install correctly
[04:39] <AdemoS> unop_, paste what happened?
[04:39] <unop_> AdemoS, not necessary
[04:39] <AdemoS> unop_, ok
[04:39] <unop_> Ademan, now -- just this -- sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-core
[04:39] <AdemoS> unop_, alright
[04:39] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: http;//fryguy.nevercontent.com/AreYouBlind.png
[04:39] <Fryguy--> bluebanana: http://fryguy.nevercontent.com/AreYouBlind.png
[04:40] <AdemoS> unop_, same errors, paste results?
[04:40] <Skitzo> hey guys, when i go to add/remove and try to install anything aMSN, VLC, ect. i keep getting the same error, "This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'program name' the conflicting software must be removed first." this is a brand new install of ubuntu, the only thing i've added to it is ndiswrapper for my wifi, can anyone help me?
[04:40] <unop_> AdemoS, please
[04:40] <AdemoS> unop_, ok
[04:40] <Phoebus> mark[oz], so do you think my vain idea will work? ubuntu w/ wine -> betrayal in antara (old win 95/3.11 game).
[04:40]  * melhiser wields a +3 shield while sporting a double damage -march=native -j6 narative on nich0s
[04:40] <Fryguy--> Skitzo: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:40]  * melhiser flops his geek out for all to see
[04:40] <GoldeNArX> does ubuntu have a firewall installed by default?
[04:40] <bluebanana> Fryguy--: I now see!
[04:40] <Fryguy--> GoldeNArX: no
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | GoldeNArX
[04:40] <ubotu> GoldeNArX: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:40] <AdemoS> unop_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60502/
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> Fryguy--: Yes it does...
[04:40] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: mine never did
[04:41] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, yea it should.. if not, get FreeDos, and virtualise it!
[04:41] <Skitzo> 7.10 i368
[04:41]  * nich0s is "powned" by melhiser obvious advantage.
[04:41] <mark[oz]> using vmware-server
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> Fryguy--: Linux has had a firewall since before Ubuntu existed.
[04:41] <brent113> Phoebus->you could always virtualbox windows95 within ubuntu.  I'm really happy with my vms
[04:41] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: yes, but it's not installed by default
[04:41]  * melhiser give the point to McEnrow
[04:41] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: or configured to do anything
[04:41] <mark[oz]> Phoebus, I use freedos when playing dukenukem 3d :)
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> Fryguy--: Yes, it is.  Deny by default, enabled in the kernel.
[04:41] <Phoebus> mark[oz], this stupid game likes to be installed while in windows...
[04:41]  * melhiser runs around looking for people with short skirts and a long jacket
[04:41] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: so then why does ssh work out of the box with no additional work?
[04:42] <unop_> Ademan, now -- just this -- sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-common
[04:42] <tritium> melhiser: cool it, please, with the channel spam
[04:42] <Phoebus> I tried running it on the xp laptop in compatibility also, fail, fail faiiil! :(
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> Fryguy--: It doesn't.  The ssh server isn't installed out of the box.
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> melhiser, would you like a piece of Cake?
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and now it's bedtime
[04:42] <AdemoS> unop_, okay, but please, use the right nick so I can find your commands later, highlighted
[04:42] <brent113> phnoebus: xp doesn't run dos, that's why
[04:42] <melhiser> daisuke: nice obsequious reference pick up
[04:42] <legend2440> !cake
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <brent113> phoebus: i've tried scorched earth, you have to run it in a dos vm
[04:42] <unop_> AdemoS, my bad
[04:42] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: it was on my system. And arbitrary programs I write that listen on INET sockets worked fine too with no configuration necessary
[04:43] <Skitzo> Fryguy--: 7.10, sorry
[04:43] <melhiser> !eat cake
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eat cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <Flannel> !offtopic
[04:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:43] <Phoebus> brent113, if I could figure out how to install it and make it use the cd... hmm.
[04:43] <Radiobuzz> Hi all! I'm having some issues and I was wondering if someone here would be kind enough to help me :)
[04:43]  * melhiser informs ubotu
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> !dosbox | brent113. Phoebus
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> aww
[04:43] <brent113> phoebus, you can yuo have a lot of options
[04:43] <Fryguy--> Radiobuzz: we can't help you until you ask a meaningful question
[04:43] <AdemoS> unop_, same error, pasting
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> Fryguy--: Sorry, but you're quite mistaken.  The ssh client is installed, but not the server.  There are NO open inbound ports on a default install.
[04:43] <Dr__Willis> dosbox is a very well done tool. :)
[04:43] <Phoebus> I know, I used it to play death rally :P
[04:44] <bluebanana> where can i get xubuntu alternate 2008 iso?
[04:44] <AdemoS> unop_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60503/
[04:44] <Radiobuzz> Fryguy, but what if the question is "could somebody help me"? :P
[04:44] <Phoebus> You should try out death rally, its addictive :P
[04:44] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: so then why can i write a simple 20 line C program that listens on a socket and receives connections?  If iptables was configured as deny all this wouldn't be the case
[04:44] <bluebanana> Does Xubuntu have an 2008 alternate iso?
[04:44] <xtknight> iptables is empty on ubuntu by default
[04:44] <Fryguy--> Radiobuzz: that's not a meaningful question
[04:44] <Radiobuzz> just kidding, you can find the question here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4559556
[04:44] <xtknight> there is no firewall on ubuntu
[04:44] <Flannel> bluebanana: 8.04, not 2008, and most likely.
[04:44] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: you are very mistaken about the default security of an ubuntu install
[04:44] <Daisuke_Ido> xtknight, no rules != no firewall
[04:45] <xtknight> Daisuke_Ido, at least effectively i mean
[04:45] <bluebanana> Flannel: i tried searching for it. Xubuntu is  harder to find then ubuntu
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> Fryguy--: I don't know what program you're referring to...
[04:45] <xtknight> at least on my Gutsy iptables is empty and i can connect vnc or w/e
[04:45] <Fryguy--> tonyyarusso: a hand written 20 line C program that just opens up a socket and accepts connections
[04:45] <tritium> Fryguy--: openssh-server is *not* intsalled by default
[04:45] <Flannel> bluebanana: Let me grab one for: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.04/beta/
[04:45] <xtknight> but openssh server is not installed no
[04:45] <Fryguy--> tritium: it was on my machine
[04:45] <unop_> Fryguy--, what tonyyarusso means is that there are no open and listening ports on a default install -- and i dont think iptables is configured to an implicit deny
[04:45] <BorisDmitri> ok
[04:45] <tritium> Fryguy--: no, it wasn't
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> no it wasn't.
[04:46] <bluebanana> Flannel: thank you!@!!
[04:46] <BorisDmitri> Fryguy
[04:46] <Daisuke_Ido> it has to be manually installed.
[04:46] <brent113> wow, everyone flame fryguy hahaha
[04:46] <Fryguy--> unop_: no applications listening on a port has nothing to do with the default firewall configuration
[04:46] <Flannel> xtknight: iptables is installed, but no rules exist by default.
[04:46] <Stroganoff> bluebanana: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/beta/
[04:46] <tritium> openssh-client is installed by default, but the the server
[04:46] <tritium> s/the/not
[04:46] <Fryguy--> tritium: I installed ubuntu on a headless server and never plugged a keyboard or mouse  or monitor into the machine...
[04:46] <bluebanana> Flannel: i found the main iso pages, but i hope the link you sent me has the alternate/"server edition" isos.
[04:46] <Josdell> Hey everyone I just wanted to ask if the reason most games I download on Ubuntu won't start is because I have an ATI graphics card.
[04:46] <Fryguy--> tritium: that's a hell of a trick of openssh isn't installed by default
[04:46] <unop_> Fryguy--, ok, so there are no applications that have ports open, listening for connections on a default install - is that clear now?
[04:47] <oriez> i'm installing ubuntu from the live CD and i get the following error "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." when i try to to select the partition
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Josdell, that depends on what games they are
[04:47] <sbingner> Josdell, uh... we have no idea
[04:47] <Dr__Willis> Josdell,  depends on the game. You do have the fglrx drivers installed.
[04:47] <brent113> josdell: not sure, but personally I have had 0 luck with ati cards, so i think so
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> examples, perhaps?
[04:47] <sbingner> my ATI card works great with fglrx
[04:47] <sbingner> I can play WoW on it
[04:47] <tritium> Fryguy--: I'm referring to the desktop CD.  Evidently, you're talking about the server intsall.
[04:47] <Fryguy--> unop_: yes that's what I was saying indirectly, and everybody seems to not believe me
[04:47] <brent113> depends on the card, but mine doesn't support compositing so it's terrible
[04:47] <Fryguy--> tritium: server install is still ubuntu, no?
[04:47] <malakhi> I can play WoW with the open source ati driver.
[04:47] <Josdell> yeah i have downloaded Urban Terror, Nexuiz, and I downloaded World of Padman but they all freeze when I'm about to begin playing
[04:47]  * Dr__Willis dosent play WoW at all.. he has a life.
[04:47] <Dr__Willis> :)
[04:47] <sbingner> malakhi, the open source is useless to me I think... I have Radeon X1800
[04:48] <sbingner> Dr__Willis, I don't really either ;)
[04:48] <tritium> Fryguy--: yes, but not the standard install for the vast majority of its users
[04:48] <malakhi> sbingner: quite likely. Mines an R250. fglrx doesn't support it.
[04:48] <Dr__Willis> Josdell,  be sure you have the  fglrx drivers installed properly.
[04:48] <BorisDmitri> Fryguy, and all of you, i want to share this, for anyone using some hd audio card
[04:48] <brent113> josdell, what card do you have?
[04:48] <Josdell> I do, i"m pretty sure I do
[04:48] <Josdell> I have a Radeon 1100 i think
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> get a cheap $20 card that will actually work by default without having to recompile alsa?
[04:48]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles
[04:49] <brent113> josdell, are you using the newest drivers off the ati site? they fixed a lot of issues with that release
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> worst problem i've ever had to help someone with...
[04:49] <BorisDmitri> i just edited the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and added options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-6ch, and voila!! i have 5.1 audio
[04:49] <unop_> AdemoS, can you try this  -- sudo aptitude clean
[04:49] <unop_> Ademan, then -- sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-common
[04:49] <Josdell> brent113: what site is that, just ati.com? and how would I install the drivers
[04:49] <Fryguy--> BorisDmitri: blog about it
[04:49] <unop_> AdemoS, ^^
[04:49] <brent113> josdell: one second and I'll send the link, have to find it
[04:49] <Dr__Willis> !restricted-manager
[04:49] <BorisDmitri> i will ! for sure!!!
[04:49] <brent113> it's not restricted manager
[04:50] <Josdell> in the Screen and Graphics right?
[04:50] <brent113> no
[04:50] <AdemoS> unop_, sorry sorry
[04:50] <AdemoS> unop_, someone come in and distracted me
[04:50] <Josdell> how? thanks for the help.
[04:50] <AdemoS> unop_, trying now
[04:50] <unop_> AdemoS, likewise
[04:51] <fushorts> is there a way to just install grub  i have a perfectly good install of linux on my machine but the grub is giving me a error 17
[04:51] <AdemoS> unop_, done
[04:51] <Fryguy--> so tritium, that justifies "correcting" me with something that is blatantly wrong?
[04:51] <Flannel> !grub | fushorts
[04:51] <tritium> Fryguy--: even on 7.10, the server install require openssh-server to be installed: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/openssh-server.html
[04:51] <unop_> AdemoS, then -- sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-common
[04:51] <ubotu> fushorts: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:51] <bluebanana> Flannel: i went to the links you sent me, but all the ISOs are for desktop. The reason I want an alternate / [server ed] of Xubuntu 2008 is because I want to have less "cruft".
[04:51] <Flannel> Fryguy--, tritium, take it somewhere else please.  #ubuntu-offtopic is a good choice
[04:51] <brent113> josdell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588383
[04:51] <Josdell> thanks alot brent
[04:51] <Fryguy--> Flannel: how is discussing packages that are installed in the operating system this channel is named after offtopic? lol
[04:51] <tritium> Fryguy--: warning.
[04:51] <Flannel> bluebanana: there is no "xubuntu" server edition, as the server edition is GUI-less
[04:52] <brent113> josdell: it's my pleasure
[04:52] <Fryguy--> tritium: for what?
[04:52] <tritium> Fryguy--: your last comment
[04:52] <Fryguy--> tritium: which one? the one that I ask a question?
[04:52] <Josdell> I'll come back if I need anything else, thanks, see ya.
[04:52] <AdemoS> unop_, trying now
[04:52] <bluebanana> Flannel: um, i don't  think i follow. isn't there a Ubuntu server edition?
[04:52] <shonen> ok, xtknight, so far so good
[04:52] <tritium> Fryguy--: scroll up.  Need I define "last" for you?
[04:52] <shonen> i'm about to install dmraid
[04:52] <xtknight> shonen, hmm ok
[04:52] <onefunk> onefunk
[04:52] <Fryguy--> tritium: if you don't want me contributing 5 hours a day to this channel, just say so, I don't mind not helping people.  I'm here more than you, if you'd like to take over for me and help these people out, just let me know.
[04:53] <Flannel> bluebanana: Ubuntu is a distro.  Theres also an Ubuntu flavor for that distro.  Xubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu.  But you're right, there's no alternate CD there.  Thats odd.
[04:53] <onefunk> hi
[04:53] <tritium> Fryguy--: i.e., the one where you claim that https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/openssh-server.html is offtopic.  Hard to imagine how ubuntu support is offtopic here.  Check the /topic
[04:53] <bluebanana> Flannel: ok. i'll just go with desktop.iso
[04:53] <bluebanana> thanks!!
[04:53] <Fryguy--> tritium: uh, please scroll up, i never said that
[04:53] <Phoebus> Fight, fight!
[04:53] <Fryguy--> tritium: I would demand an apology for that right now
[04:53] <xtknight> bluebanana,  xubuntu alternate CD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/
[04:53] <Phoebus> Don't be wussies, start swinging, not flinging :P
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> that really sounded like a "fine then, i'll take my ball and go home if you don't agree with me" comment...
[04:54] <mrynit> is there an easy way to roll back update installs?
[04:54] <brent113> fryguy, you've helped me solve my 3 major problems, yuo gotta stick around
[04:54] <Alives> i cant figure out how to get lm-sensors to load the right modules at boot... every boot i have to run sensors-detect to get the modules loaded.  lsmod lists lm90 loaded at boot, which is what sensors-detect says to modprobe, but it only works after i run sensors-detect... any ideas?
[04:54] <Flannel> xtknight: looking for hardy
[04:54] <xtknight> Alives, ya [put them in /etc/modules
[04:54] <xtknight> Flannel, ahh
[04:54] <Phoebus> And we have helper's competition ^^
[04:54] <Fryguy--> tritium: http://rafb.net/p/H1AjKO85.html
[04:54] <Alives> its in /etc/modules
[04:55] <Alives> the module gets loaded
[04:55] <Fryguy--> brent113: apparently my help isn't welcome here
[04:55] <onefunk> error messsage keeps popping up at bout about Gnome daemon not loading any solutions?
[04:55] <xtknight> Alives, ohh sorry didn't see
[04:55] <squizzi> Hey guys.. I'm getting the infamous VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) kernel panic ... and I'm pretty new to Linux in general. Sooo, yeahhh, any ideas would be helpful, I'm currently burning a live CD so I can get in to my kernel, somehow.
[04:55] <brent113> well i appreciate it
[04:55] <JohnMM> Alives, put sensors-detect in /etc/rc5.d script
[04:55] <Flannel> bluebanana: It's possible, although seems sort of odd, that xubuntu doesn't provide alternate editions for development version at this time.  You could use the server CD and then add xubuntu easily enough (or any of the other two alternate CDs, at that)
[04:55] <tritium> Fryguy--: saw the nick highlight, and your nick, but it was from Flannel.  Nevertheless, your comment about "blatantly false" was unnecessary, and incorrect.
[04:55] <Alives> sensors detect isnt a daemon etc... it just figures out what module you need and edits the appropriate file
[04:55] <Fryguy--> squizzi: did it just start happening out of the blue? are you using raid or anything else "exotic" for your hard drive setup
[04:55] <squizzi> no, just started out of the blue
[04:56] <AdemoS> unop_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60504/
[04:56] <squizzi> I was messing with Usplash recently though
[04:56] <AdemoS> unop_, thoguh nothing in the Main Menu...
[04:56] <Fryguy--> tritium: great job dodging blame and responsibility there
[04:56] <squizzi> So that could be the issue
[04:56] <tritium> Fryguy--: again, lose the attitude, please.
[04:56] <bluebanana> Flannel: the comp will be used as a desktop. but the reason I was asking for "server edition was because someone told me installing with the server edition will give me less cruft.
[04:56] <bluebanana> true or false?
[04:56] <brent113> tritium, fryguy is very helpful to this channel, can we maybe let this 1 misunderstanding go?
[04:56]  * Phoebus is now taking bets: tritium vs Fryguy--
[04:56] <unop_> AdemoS, ahh paitience -- we still have a few packages to install
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Phoebus, no bet.
[04:56] <Fryguy--> tritium: i'm sitting here helping people out, and you and I are having a conversation (that at this point has veered way off topic).  Besides the parens, what exactly is the problem?
[04:57] <unop_> AdemoS,  sudo aptitude install openoffice.org
[04:57] <Fryguy--> tritium: like I mentioned before, if I'm not welcome here just say so and I will leave.
[04:57] <Phoebus> Daisuke_Ido, you sure? Its X1,25 :P
[04:57] <charles___> I just upgraded to the hardy heron beta; my soundcard no longer works, I have an maudio delta that uses the ice1712 driver; when I do an lsmod it isn't loaded, and when I do modprobe ice1712 it says not found, however locate ice1712 yields several snd-ice1712.ko files
[04:57] <AdemoS> unop_, oh I'm not annoyed, just curious :P
[04:57] <squizzi> Fryguy--: Any ideas? ..
[04:57] <tritium> Fryguy--: did I ever say you were not?  Just relax.
[04:57] <AdemoS> unop_, trying now
[04:57] <Flannel> charles___: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks.
[04:57] <Jman> hey can have XP and ubuntu on my computer at the same time?
[04:57] <Fryguy--> tritium: you didn't say if i was or not, which is why i'm asking, because it seems like you are making that inference.
[04:57] <charles___> Flannel, opps, sorry
[04:57] <Phoebus> Jman, yes with vmware-- running at the same time, or with dualboot.
[04:57] <tritium> Fryguy--: either stop, or /query me, please
[04:58] <Fryguy--> tritium: just answer my question(s)
[04:58] <kanadian> Jman: search for linux and windows xp dual boot articles on google
[04:58] <zachstar> Hello everyone
[04:58] <Phoebus> Jman, or 3rd option and my fav, have a server sit in the corner serving ubuntun over vnc :P
[04:58] <ere4si> how can I find out what theme engine I'm using?
[04:58] <unop_> Fryguy--, what you are discussing about now is ot anyway :) and you're most welcome here
[04:58] <bluebanana> is the command "zcat" basically uncompressing?
[04:58] <Jman> haha phoebus
[04:58] <Alives> vnc sucks compared to nx
[04:58] <Fryguy--> squizzi: sorry, without more context as to how/why it started happening, I can't offer any meaningful input
[04:58] <nich0s> zachstar: Hi, Dr. zachstar
[04:58] <Jman> thanks guys
[04:58] <tritium> Fryguy--: as you've pointed out, it's way offtopic.  Will not discuss this further in channel.
[04:58] <Phoebus> Alives, whats nx? New proggy?
[04:58] <zachstar> I am wondering how to install a theme for the boot manager that comes with the latest ubuntu beta
[04:58] <Alives> like rdp for linux
[04:58] <Radiobuzz> I didn't know this channel was so chaotic so I understand that you don't have the time to go through my thread, so I'll write my questions directly
[04:59] <Fryguy--> Phoebus: nx is software that allows multiple shared x sessions
[04:59] <shonen> xtknight: dmraid has been installed, the partition has been mounted, and both read and write work
[04:59] <Phoebus> Alives, are there clients for other OS's?
[04:59] <Fryguy--> Phoebus: see a product called FreeNX
[04:59] <xtknight> shonen, ok
[04:59] <Alives> yes
[04:59] <xtknight> shonen, well how did you install dmraiad up to this point
[04:59] <xtknight> shonen, like what commands
[04:59] <Phoebus> Last q, does the server work on windows? :P
[04:59] <Fryguy--> Phoebus: and see newer substitutes like xpra.  Also see related items X11 forwarding and xdmcp
[04:59] <fushorts> if i am using a sata drive as my main drive would linux say that is an hd or would it say sd?
[04:59] <Radiobuzz> what does this error I get in Nautilus mean and what can I do about it? --- Hash table keys for warning below:
[04:59] <Radiobuzz> --> ���/var/lib/gconf/defaults/defaults.bak   (nautilus:5776): Eel-WARNING **: "nautilus-metafile.c: metafiles" hash table still has 1 element at quit time (keys above)
[04:59] <brent113> fushorts:sd
[04:59] <shonen> i used synaptic to install the dmraid package
[04:59] <Alives> windows has a great server called remote desktop
[04:59] <Alives> already
[05:00] <shonen> then sudo dmraid -ay
[05:00] <Fryguy--> tritium: do you even help peopl ein here?  It seems like the only time I see you chatting are for channel infractions
[05:00] <AdemoS> unop_, appeared....to work. Paste? Attempt to run?
[05:00] <shonen> then sudo mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_bjgfdead1 /media/arc
[05:00] <tritium> Fryguy--: of course, and I have for years, but I have a job.  How is that question on topic?
[05:00] <unop_> AdemoS, attempt to run
[05:00] <AdemoS> unop_, affirmative
[05:00] <Fryguy--> Alives: if you want to mimic that, take a look at the x server xrdp.  i'm not sure how complete it is, but it is certainly worth looking at
[05:00] <fushorts> when i do the find /boot/grub/stage1 it is telling me that it is on hd2,0  but i have linux on my sata drive
[05:00] <Alives> sounds cool
[05:01] <Fryguy--> tritium: it's not, but since i'm helping people and you aren't, i figured i'd ask out of curiosity.  since, frankly, you seem useless
[05:01] <Newbuntu2_> I'm having problems reading a file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60369/ How can I recover it>
[05:01] <Flannel> !coc | Fryguy--
[05:01] <brent113> fushorts: do not worry about it, the defaults can be overridden without affecting anything
[05:01] <fushorts> dont want to mess with the other drives bootloaders if possible
[05:01] <ubotu> Fryguy--: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:01] <AdemoS> unop_, same old error: Error forking '/usr/lib/openoffice/program//soffice': 'Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice" (Bad address)'
[05:01] <xtknight> well he had colorful words for a lot of people in here anyways
[05:01] <brent113> fushorts: ubuntu names the drives in a certain config file, they can be changed without affecting anything
[05:01] <unop_> AdemoS, ahh man -- that's no good
[05:01] <AdemoS> unop_, yeah I don't understand it
[05:01] <nich0s> Phoebus: 10 USD on tritium
[05:01] <fushorts> brent113, will it know to use the sata drive for booting linux?
[05:01] <AdemoS> unop_, I've cleaned it all out, what is going on? It worked fine before
[05:02] <shonen> xtknight: got all that?
[05:02] <AdemoS> unop_, should I get rid of other java jres?
[05:02] <xtknight> shonen, doh... nope my nick wasn't highlighted
[05:02] <xtknight> shonen, but i can see
[05:02] <Alives> Fryguy--: im having issues with lm-sensors ... the lm90 module is loaded at boot but `sensors` says it cant detect any sensors until i run `sensors-detect` everytime i boot (which just modprobes lm90 anyway)... ideas?
[05:02] <Phoebus> Nx server doesn't seem to run on windows, so still not as good as vnc (accessibility), but good to see more in this field.
[05:02] <brent113> fushorts: that is determined by the bios which drive it boots to, and secndly by the grub menu
[05:02] <Phoebus> nich0s, noted! ;)
[05:02] <shonen> xtknight i used synaptic to install the dmraid package
[05:02] <brent113> fushorts: do you need help configuring grub?
[05:02] <shonen> xtknight then sudo mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_bjgfdead1 /media/arc
[05:02] <unop_> AdemoS, i dunno really -- have you tried a reboot?
[05:02] <xtknight> shonen, ok and you're saying at this point when you reboot (after mount /media/arc) it wont work?
[05:02] <AdemoS> unop_, hmm I did before. I'll try another
[05:02] <shonen> xtknight yes
[05:03] <xtknight> shonen, let's check a few things.  look at your fstab
[05:03] <AdemoS> unop_, brb
[05:03] <unop_> ok
[05:03] <Zack1403> hey can anyone help me out with how to deselect packages marked for install
[05:03] <Zack1403> ?
[05:03] <fushorts> brent113, possibly
[05:03] <shonen> ok, what am i looking for
[05:03] <brent113> !grub | fushorts
[05:03] <ubotu> fushorts: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:03] <shonen> xtknight ok, what am i looking for
[05:03] <Flannel> Zack1403: in synaptic?  or what?
[05:03] <fushorts> i am reading this link that was given to me however i dont know that hd2 is the proper drive for grub
[05:03] <xtknight> shonen, hmm.  im not surebut i was thinking maybe dmraid modified your fstab somehow, preventing boot
[05:04] <Possum234> I ran into the infamous grub error 17. Can anyone help me?
[05:04] <squizzi> Anyone else? I'm getting the infamous, VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) kernel panic ... and I'm pretty new to Linux in general. I was messing with uSplash, and customizing my uSplash a bit and rebooted after customizing it to be welcomed by that kernel panic.
[05:04] <shonen> xtknight: fstab is still using the uuid to mount the root partition
[05:04] <Possum234> or point me where to start looking fo a solution?
[05:04] <fushorts> OOH possum234 that is what i am talking about lol
[05:04] <shonen> xtknight and the raid is not in the fstab
[05:05] <Possum234> yes. lucky I have xp that magically appeared
[05:05] <xtknight> shonen, ok.  do you know if dmraid modifies the kernel at all
[05:05] <brent113> fushorts: if you are not positive which drive is which, type df -H into a terminal to list the drives and their sizes to get the names
[05:05] <Zack1403> Flannel: well i was using apt-get
[05:05] <xtknight> shonen, i know md does
[05:05]  * Daisuke_Ido facepalms
[05:05] <Solari1> hey, anyone able to help me out with a quick question re: triple booting (ubuntu/fedora/xp) and the highest number of partitions available?  (i'm pretty much brand new at this)
[05:05] <Possum234> or else i would still have the live cd to go off of
[05:05] <Zack1403> Flannel: new to ubuntu
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> rule one; never taunt ops
[05:05] <shonen> xtknight I do not know
[05:05] <fushorts> Possum234, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:05] <Possum234> no, I had windows before ubuntu
[05:05] <shonen> xtknight it did not install a new image or anything, so at most it is just loading some new modules
[05:05] <Solari1> facepalm.jpg?
[05:05] <Flannel> Zack1403: I don't understand your problem then.  You had something installed and now you want to remove it? or what?
[05:06] <xtknight> shonen, do you know if recovery mode booted fine
[05:06] <xtknight> shonen, (dont try it yet)
[05:06] <Possum234> I would like to know how to solve grub error 17
[05:06] <brent113> fryguy, if you want to jump in here, by all means, you probably know more about grub than I do
[05:06] <shonen> xtknight recovery mode did not work before
[05:06] <Possum234> so that I can begin to ween myself off of windows and go to linux
[05:06] <xtknight> shonen, same error right?
[05:06] <shonen> xtknight correct
[05:06] <Daisuke_Ido> brent113, fryguy has left the building
[05:06] <xtknight> shonen, you're on gutsy?
[05:06] <Solari1> hey, anyone able to help me out with a quick question re: triple booting (ubuntu/fedora/xp) and the highest number of partitions available?  (i'm pretty much brand new at this)
[05:06] <Phoebus> Possum234, that will happen for me when Adobe goes Linux.. or fully supports it. Wining CS 3 doesn't work well, tried it.
[05:06] <squizzi> Yeah, so starting my LiveCD gives me a PCI-BIOS Bug Found, could this be connected with my kernel panic?
[05:06] <Radiobuzz> Hey, can I re-ask my question? Are there any rules against repeating lines?
[05:06] <brent113> daisuke, o snap
[05:07] <Zack1403> Flannel: by accident i did apt-get install b43*, it said a bunch of stuff is marked for install, will this stuff get installed on like a apt-get upgrade?
[05:07] <AdemoS> unop_, *sigh* still not working, but new errors, panel....errors: http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7043/twopanelerrorsqf4.png
[05:07] <Solari1> if there are, i'm about to be kicked radiobuzz
[05:07] <shonen> xtknight yes, the latest gutsy
[05:07] <Radiobuzz> hehe
[05:07] <Zack1403> Flannel: i was looking for the fc equivilant like yum search b43*
[05:07] <Newbuntu2_> I'm having problems reading a file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60369/ How can I recover it??
[05:07] <squizzi> Yeah Solari1 and Radiobuzz ... I would of been megakicked :O
[05:07] <fushorts> brent113, right now i am running off the live cd of linux so it is not giving me a very accurate display of what i was hoping to see
[05:07] <Flannel> Zack1403: did you hit 'n' to cancel it?  you want apt-cache search [stuff],  but, why not use synaptic?
[05:07] <brent113> fushorts: for a grub error 17: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[05:07] <shonen> xtknight I just modified my menu.lst to disable the splash screen and quiet so that we will get messages on the next boot
[05:07] <nich0s> Question: Is there a recommended C++ environment for Linux?
[05:07] <xtknight> shonen, try "sudo update-initramfs -k `uname-r`" ( i believe this is the cmd)
[05:07] <brent113> fushorts, I'm not exactly certain what your problem is
[05:08] <xtknight> shonen, this updates initrd i think.  i dont know but sometimes thats a fix for the other sw raid
[05:08] <unop_> AdemoS, hmm .. do they restart if you ask them to?
[05:08] <xtknight> shonen, dont have much to lose
[05:08] <Possum234> nich0s, do u mean IDE?
[05:08] <fushorts> ok i will read more into the links you have provided thank you
[05:08] <AdemoS> unop_, what command should I use for that?
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> nich0s, vim.  although eclipse with the c++ plugins is a good option
[05:08] <brent113> nich0s: I have used anjuta before and liked it a lot
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> assuming that's available
[05:08] <Flannel> Zack1403: sudo apt-get -s update, will simulate, so you can double check that it wont
[05:08] <AdemoS> unop_, and should I click delete or don't?
[05:08] <Possum234> devc++ is good although I am not sure its available for linux
[05:08] <xtknight> shonen, maybe same problem here http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?page=2&t=630645
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i should have checked before spewing info
[05:09] <nich0s> I guess I'll have to try them all! Thanks. :)
[05:09] <Flannel> Zack1403: er, upgrade.  update refreshes your package.litss
[05:09] <Radiobuzz> what does this error I get in Nautilus mean and what can I do about it?
[05:09] <Radiobuzz>  --- Hash table keys for warning below:
[05:09] <unop_> AdemoS, ohh .. just click on the button that says "dont delete" and log out and log back in
[05:09] <Radiobuzz> --> ���/var/lib/gconf/defaults/defaults.bak   (nautilus:5776): Eel-WARNING **: "nautilus-metafile.c: metafiles" hash table still has 1 element at quit time (keys above)
[05:09] <orudie> how would i make a user name for mysql?
[05:09] <AdemoS> unop_, okay
[05:09] <AdemoS> brb
[05:09] <Zack1403> Flannel: it said that there were broken packages and ended, would i have to confirm before any install?
[05:09] <shonen> xtknight: "You must specify at least one of -c, -u, or -d."
[05:09] <Zack1403> Flannel: but it still said a bunch of packages were selected
[05:09] <Solari1> NEED HALP... i'm trying to triple boot ubuntu/xp/fedora and currently have a swap partition and two ext partitions set up with ubuntu and fedora on installed... i tried to install XP now and when i tried to partition the extra space, it said it was impossible due to there being too many partitions... is there any way around this?
[05:09] <Zack1403> Flannel:  ill run the simulation
[05:10] <xtknight> shonen, try "sudo update-initramfs -u -k `uname-r`"
[05:10] <AdemoS> unop_, indentical errors on re-login....on a side note, updater wants to install gnome-panel *laughs*
[05:10] <brent113> radiobuzz: http://tinyurl.com/22qwzv is this applicable at all?
[05:10] <xtknight> shonen, maybe when you add the dmraid it creates another drive.  potentially drive order problems in grub? i dont know what sense this makes but it's possible.  i didn't think dmraid was loaded that quickly
[05:10] <lucretian> Solari1: reinstall one of the linux installations as non-primary drive (logical partition)
[05:10] <Flannel> Solari1: you need to create an extended partition, and then put logical partitions inside of it for additional ones
[05:10] <Solari1> ah... thanks to both of you flannel and lucretian... i'm very new to this
[05:10] <shonen> xtknight: "No arg for -k option"
[05:10] <Solari1> time to start over!
[05:10] <unop_> AdemoS, you probably need to install that update -- it might fix the issue -- and i dont think this has anything to do with openoffice, its a completely different issue
[05:10] <Zack1403> Flannel: ok so it said 0 for everything, that means nothing will be installed right ? :)
[05:11] <xtknight> shonen, sudo update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u
[05:11] <AdemoS> unop_, well I remember during the purge it mentioned panel....not sure why. Installing from updater now
[05:11] <xtknight> that works here
[05:11] <Phoebus> Wow the nx testdrive is impressive :D
[05:11] <xtknight> shonen, sudo update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u
[05:11] <shonen> xtknight: wait now its working... you missed a space between uname and -r
[05:11] <xtknight> is also the same thing
[05:11] <xtknight> ahh sorry
[05:11] <Flannel> Zack1403: uh, I don't know what '0 for everything' means, but sounds like it, yes.
[05:11] <shonen> xtknight: the command seems to have worked
[05:12] <Zack1403> Flannel: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:12] <Flannel> Zack1403: aye.  Looks good.
[05:12] <xtknight> shonen, alright.  well how about we try something else.  type grub.  yes, grub
[05:12] <AdemoS> unop_, brb
[05:12] <Zack1403> Flannel: Glorious!
[05:12] <gregcha117> i think i broke my sound can someone tell me how to reinstall my sound drivers
[05:12] <Zack1403> Flannel: Thanks for your help, always paranoid im gonna bloat a new install with my stupidity
[05:12] <gregcha117> when i type alsamixer i get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default"
[05:13] <shonen> xtknight now what
[05:13] <Flannel> Zack1403: well, if its a fresh install, you can always reinstall.  But yeah, check synaptic out.
[05:13] <SkinnypuppY34> Anyone know a good deal online for 22 + inch lcd monitors other than pricewatch?
[05:13] <unop_> gregcha117, I think all you might need to do is set the default sound device
[05:13] <Flannel> !offtopic | SkinnypuppY34
[05:13] <unop_> !sound | gregcha117
[05:13] <ubotu> SkinnypuppY34: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:13] <Zack1403> Flannel: thanks!
[05:13] <ubotu> gregcha117: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:13] <xtknight> shonen, sorry. exit.  then "sudo grub"
[05:13] <Radiobuzz> brent113, no, I don't think so, for some reason my password doesn't work when I call "su" :S
[05:13] <shonen> xtknight i did now what
[05:13] <Radiobuzz> but in any case seems like a different problem...
[05:14] <xtknight> shonen, um now we're going to do some detective work
[05:14] <gregcha117> when i doubleclick on the volume i get "no volume control Gstreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[05:14] <Ohm> Hey, is there any way to check which xmodmap I am using? I need to see which one the keyboard configurator is choosing to make things work.
[05:14] <Flannel> Radiobuzz: Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  Use sudo instead.
[05:14] <AdemoS> unop_, hmm same error. Will try deleting and re-installing the pannel aps from menu
[05:14] <xtknight> shonen, you have to type this exactly.  type "cat (hd0," and then press TAB.  it shold list devices under hd0
[05:14] <AdemoS> unop_, urgh....every time I try to drag out a new panel app, same error
[05:14] <AdemoS> unop_, >_<
[05:15] <xtknight> shonen, then you'll want to open your /boot/grub/menu.lst in another text editor or something.  we are going to make sure that the HD numbers haven't changed for some reason.
[05:15] <unop_> AdemoS, hmm, not sure i can help much with this -- i dont use gnome
[05:15] <shonen> xtknight partitions are 0,1,4
[05:15] <Radiobuzz> thanks, but if I understand, that guy has problems with Nautilus, but in my case the error shows up only when I'm on a folder which I've moved recently. In other word, I made a copy of a folder and that backup folder gives me that error, which makes me think that the files are somehow corrupt
[05:15] <AdemoS> unop_, ah sorry....and gnome appears to be installed. Well thanks anyway for your help
[05:16] <AdemoS> unop_, *panel appears to be installed
[05:16] <tarkus> what do you guys think of this idea? let me know if you would use it if it was well implemented: http://dpaste.com/40492/
[05:16] <Phoebus_nxtest> This is too cool, I'm using the nx client and-- running this from the server :)
[05:16] <unop_> Can someone who uses/knows gnome help AdemoS with this issue - http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7043/twopanelerrorsqf4.png
[05:16] <shonen> xtknight: filesystems are unknown, ext2fs, unknown respectively, partition types are 0x7, 0x83 and 0x82 respectively
[05:16] <xtknight> shonen,
[05:16] <xtknight> # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
[05:16] <xtknight> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[05:16] <dryder> install method - is there a way to do this? I like to boot via f12 if I don't want my default. I install ubuntu versions on separate hdds - unplugging all others so grub gets installed on that one drive. Problem: when I plug in the other drives the original "sd" designations in my fstab file are wrong - which means it doesn't 'line up with mtab and the Disk Analyzer is wholly inaccurate. Do I have to unplug other drives when installing
[05:16] <xtknight> hmm that's interesting.  i just noticed that in menu.lst
[05:16] <fushorts> brent113, would sda1 be (sd0,1)
[05:17] <jeff__> cvbvb vc
[05:17] <xtknight> sda1 should be (hd0,0)
[05:17] <Captain_Asshat> hey quick question, the swap partition has to be twice my ram it says
[05:17] <oni> hello all how r we 2nite?
[05:17] <shonen> xtknight: ok, I will remove all instances of savedefault now
[05:17] <AdemoS> unop_, what the heck. OTHER panel apps work, but volume and trash are broken X_X
[05:17] <xtknight> shonen, hmm ok
[05:17] <AdemoS> unop_, will try to completely remove gnome-panel and reload it
[05:18] <fushorts> i have 1 sata and 2 ata and it says that (hd2,0) is grub but i think that is wrong that is why i ask
[05:18] <unop_> AdemoS, yea, it's probably because they are seperate process on their own -- and the processes might be failing to stay alive
[05:18] <xtknight> shonen, so i assume hd(0,4) is your /boot and hd(0,1) is your /
[05:18] <Jman> It says my ram should be 2x my ram, is there a max size to that cuz i have 2 gigs of ram, should i really make it 4 gigs?
[05:18] <unop_> Jman, is this regarding swap size?
[05:18] <Jman> yes
[05:18] <xtknight> fushorts, sda1 is (hd0,0)
[05:18] <Jman> excuse me i meant to say that
[05:19] <AdemoS> unop_, still stuck.....trying re-loging then rebooting
[05:19] <shonen> xtknight: no, 0 is my windows partition, 1 is my root and 4 is my swap
[05:19] <unop_> Jman, well, it can be as big as possible -- but atleast 2x size of ram
[05:19] <xtknight> fushorts, sometimes grub can diff from linux notations though because of drive order and recognition
[05:19] <xtknight> shonen, oh ok.  so /boot is on root
[05:19] <Jman> ok so for gigs isn't gonna freak anything out
[05:19] <shonen> xtknight: commented out one instance of savedefault on my windows partition line
[05:19] <Jman> four*
[05:19] <shonen> xtknight: correct
[05:19] <xtknight> my swap is 8
[05:19] <xtknight> ;)
[05:19] <Jman> ok lol
[05:19] <Jman> thank a lot guys
[05:19] <xtknight> shonen, alright so (hd0,1) is /
[05:20] <xtknight> shonen, and do you see that in menu.lst
[05:20] <xtknight> shonen, for root
[05:20] <shonen> xtknight: lets open a private chat window so that i dont have to keep typing xtknight
[05:20] <xtknight> shonen, sounds good
[05:20] <fushorts> restarting hope this works thank you for the help
[05:20] <FAJALO1> right now im working with compiz, and i cant find the 3d windows stick out when in cube plugin, but i already downloaded the extras plugins.
[05:20] <unop__> shonen, don't you use tab-completion?
[05:21] <unop__> shonen, i.e. xt<tab>
[05:21] <xtknight> shonen, you might need to register your nickname to do private messaging
[05:21] <FAJALO1> any ideas?
[05:21] <xtknight> shonen, i'm not receiving anything
[05:21] <shonen> xtknight : it is working. go back to our window
[05:21] <DAC1138> got a question about ubgrading from a CD. if my cd has a defective file on it, can i still install it just omitting that one file?
[05:21] <AdemoS> unop_, urgh....still stuck. I know Ubuntu can't get virsues but I feel like I have one....>_<
[05:21] <FAJALO1> right now im working with compiz, and i cant find the 3d windows stick out when in cube plugin, but i already downloaded the extras plugins.  any thoughts
[05:22] <shonen> xtknight: isnt it?
[05:22] <xtknight> shonen, i cant hear you though
[05:22] <xtknight> shonen, youll have to register with NicksErv
[05:22] <shonen> xtknight: ah ok...and i forgot my ident password :p
[05:22] <shonen> xtknight: ok 1 sec
[05:23] <AdemoS> unop_, so I've tried complete removing the panel, reinstalling the panel, *sigh*
[05:23] <unop__> Can someone who uses/knows gnome help AdemoS with this issue - http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7043/twopanelerrorsqf4.png
[05:23] <zero88> How do I correctly install FLuxbox?
[05:24] <Flannel> zero88: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:24] <AdemoS> unop_, is there a gnome channel on freenode?
[05:24] <DAC1138> zero88: apt-get install fluxbox
[05:24] <unop__> AdemoS, I dont think i can help you much on this eh? i'm sorry -- lets hope somebody else can
[05:24] <unop__> AdemoS, i believe it is #gnome
[05:24] <AdemoS> unop_, thanks for trying
[05:24] <AdemoS> unop_, are support questions allowed there?
[05:25] <gbglop> xtknight: how do i register again?
[05:25] <unop__>  AdemoS probably not, they might refer you back in here
[05:25] <AdemoS> hmm
[05:25] <zero88> Flannel,  DAC1138 ive done that and chose fluxbox as my session. but when i boot into fluxbox. the only thing that appears is the bottom panel.which i can absolutely do nothing with, and none of my mouse buttons work!
[05:25] <AdemoS> I'll try it
[05:25] <unop__> AdemoS, but you should try
[05:25] <xtknight> gbglop, /msg nickserv help
[05:25] <FAJALO1> right now im working with compiz, and i cant find the 3d windows stick out when in cube plugin, but i already downloaded the extras plugins.
[05:25] <Starnestommy> gbglop: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[05:25] <unop__> zer0ne, the only thing that works in a fluxbox session firstly is the menu -- right click on the desktop and you should see it
[05:26] <unop__> zero88, ^^
[05:26] <zero88> unop_, I do rigt-click on desktop but nothing happens at all
[05:26] <zero88> :)
[05:26] <lucretian> is your mouse configured correctly?
[05:26] <unop__> zero88, thats not normal --  reinstall fluxbox??
[05:27] <lucretian> try some other mouse buttons first
[05:27] <Radiobuzz> Ok, I'll ask another related question: do you know those files called %gconf-tree-x? 1) Where do they go? On /var/lib/gconf/defaults or on a folder inside that? 2) What are they? Because the real problem is that I think I've lost my Gnome settings since everything is working weird, the desktop, the start menu, the mouse...
[05:27] <zero88> unop_, ya i guess i could try that
[05:27] <ere4si> zero88: you need to make a menu file in .fluxbox
[05:27] <zero88> unop_, thanks
[05:28] <zero88> ere4si, Really? Before i use fluxbox? How do i go about doing that?
[05:28] <tux97> whats the program name for rar files?
[05:28] <ere4si> zero88: I'll get you a link
[05:28] <AdemoS> unop_, yeah I asked, we'll see
[05:29] <zero88> ere4si, k thanks. all the tuts ive seen just say apt-get install fluxbox
[05:29] <ere4si> zero88: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371144 - is the one I used for the box I'm on now :)
[05:29] <zero88> ere4si, k thanks i will check it out
[05:30] <dryder> u guys v busy - I'll ask another time :) g'night all ...
[05:30] <LimCore> ubuntu sucks about security, can this be changed?
[05:30] <PriceChild> LimCore: what is wrong?
[05:30] <unop> LimCore, what's bad about ubuntu's security?
[05:30] <amenado> LimCore-> how did you come to that conclusion?
[05:30] <squizzi> w00t I fixed my issue on my own
[05:30] <lucretian> dryder: you don't need to take out the drives
[05:31] <tux97> what do you guys use to open rar files?
[05:31] <tritium> LimCore: could you please give an example of what you mean?
[05:31] <LimCore> PriceChild: -did you know about this cool program called "scponly"   -no.. hmm ok I will install it. [3 minutes] -omg, how you hacked into my box?   I have found Remote Desktop but thats server...i need a viewer
[05:31] <zero88> ere4si, thanks this is EXACTLY what i need
[05:31] <PriceChild> LimCore: so ubuntu's security sucks because you install something, don't know what you're doing, and get rooted?
[05:31] <LimCore> simply INSTALLING scponly security tool, results in EXECUTION of SSH server! (and with root permit!)  so its trivial to hack in
[05:32] <tux97> unop where do i get unrar from?
[05:32] <dryder> lucretian - just about to leave ... may i re-ask another day without offending any1?
[05:32] <ere4si> zero88: good luck - fluxbox is excellent :)
[05:32] <lucretian> dryder: you just need to be able to figure out which drive is which, which you can test during the install by switching to a console (ctrl+alt+f2), mounting the different /dev/sd*# devices and finding the one you wish to install onto next
[05:32] <unop> tux97, apt-get install unrar
[05:32] <LimCore> PriceChild: yes. this is less secure then windows.  on windows you have to install and RUN a server to get owned
[05:32] <tux97> ok ty
[05:32] <orudie> is there a way to create a new database user in phpmyadmin ?
[05:32] <lucretian> dryder: probably
[05:32] <mrynit> unrar out dated
[05:32] <mrynit> nvm
[05:32] <zero88> ere4si, ya it is. alot cleaner
[05:32] <SeveredCross> orudie: Use the Permissions section.
[05:32] <belkinhelp2> speaking of server...i need a viewer for VNC
[05:32] <belkinhelp2> not server like remote desktop
[05:33] <TuTUXG_> vncviewer
[05:33] <unop> LimCore, that depends if the installer chooses to run the server when it completes -- most ubuntu package installers do that
[05:33] <lucretian> LimCore: is there some vulnerability in sshd?
[05:33] <dryder> thanks - sorry to cut n run ... - nite all ....
[05:33] <TuTUXG_> i thought it's default in gusty
[05:33] <belkinhelp2> right....is vncviewer already on ubuntu?
[05:33] <belkinhelp2> if so, where
[05:33] <LimCore> lucretian: weak passwords. user think: I never will run any server, so I will use "lolcat" as my root password
[05:33] <PriceChild> LimCore: this is user error. We are also offtopic.
[05:33] <LimCore> lucretian: and it is system fault to not WARN user: you are about to execute public open SERVER!
[05:33] <PriceChild> !bug | LimCore
[05:33] <ubotu> LimCore: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[05:33] <lucretian> LimCore: can't log in as root, they have to guess username + password.  still a bad idea
[05:33] <internet_> xvncviewer
[05:34] <tritium> LimCore: weak passwords are a user problem
[05:34] <tux97> unop can unrar be used in the gui?
[05:34] <belkinhelp2> !xvncviewer
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvncviewer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <LimCore> tritium: and it's system fault to not warn that you are about to run a server.
[05:34] <TuTUXG_> !vnc
[05:34] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:34] <unop> tux97, no, its a cli util
[05:34] <PriceChild> !offtopic | LimCore
[05:34] <ubotu> LimCore: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:34] <lucretian> tritium: that doesn't in any way address the problem that is present when sshd is running without user knowledge
[05:34] <tux97> oh ok
[05:35] <Infest> Hi, how to check the partition table?
[05:35] <tritium> lucretian: I was responding to a point he made about weak password.
[05:35] <Infest> like hd0,1 and hd0,2 ..
[05:35] <PriceChild> Infest: sudo fdisk -l
[05:36] <unop> !away | emma
[05:36] <ubotu> emma: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[05:37] <kenboo> ubuntu is so slow on PIII machine
[05:37] <lucretian> Infest: what do you want to know about it?
[05:37] <kenboo> how much memory does it need at minimum?
[05:38] <lucretian> "mount" will show active partitions
[05:38] <tritium> kenboo: 256MB is recommended
[05:38] <Infest>  lucretian, just need it for the grub configuration..
[05:38] <kenboo> uh i just have 256MB ;-) barely passed the minimum. haha
[05:38] <Radiobuzz> Oh... I *think* I've fixed it... I'll be right back
[05:38] <unop> lucretian, are there passive partitions too?? j/k :)
[05:38] <lucretian> Infest: be careful, IIRC gurb uses 0-indexing and udev uses 1-indexing
[05:39] <lucretian> so /dev/hda1 is actually (hd0,0) in grub
[05:39] <TuTUXG_> yes
[05:39] <lucretian> Infest: check fdisk -l
[05:40] <Infest> lucretian, thanks.. I'm not new to linux though..just forgot the cmds :)
[05:40] <david> anyone happen to know of a good CAD application for electrical installations? :P
[05:40] <unop> david, 2d or 3d?
[05:40] <danny> My 'window list' on the panel isn't taken up all the available space.  it takes up maybe a fourth of the pane, then starts squeshing itself.  any way to fix this? :x
[05:40] <internet_> What is the best pdf app for linux (create, convert to/from, edit)
[05:40] <david> 2D mainly
[05:41] <david> or only :)
[05:41] <unop> david, dia might be worth looking into
[05:41] <zero88> Yes Fluxbox is Alive!
[05:41] <david> I'll have a look at that
[05:41] <DAC1138> if my cd has a defect in only 1 file, can i tell it to omit that file when installing?
[05:42] <unop> david, http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
[05:42] <danny> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4561541#post4561541  <-- I also posted the Q there. :X
[05:42] <mixed> !mp
[05:42] <zero88> anyone know how to install a new theme in fluxbox?
[05:42] <mixed> !mpg
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <shonen> xtknight: broken
[05:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <xtknight> shonen, ah back to PM
[05:42] <shonen> what was my last nick again?
[05:42] <david> unop: looks like its for electronic circuitry
[05:42] <xtknight> not sure i was on my other pc
[05:42] <xtknight> ol
[05:42] <DAC1138> zero88: move the theme/style file to the styles folder in the .fluxbox folder
[05:42] <shonen> gb...what? ive already forgotten
[05:42] <lucretian> zero88: it looks in ~/.themes I think
[05:43] <shonen> doh
[05:43] <zero88> DAC1138, lucretian will do thanks
[05:43] <lucretian> danny: you have a separator or invisible widget squeezing it
[05:43] <Webfreak> Hey guys
[05:44] <unop> david, well, not limited to just that -- it can draw diagrams for computer networks, wiring, electrical engineering, chemical engineering, this that and the other
[05:44] <unop> david, maybe you need to be more explicit about what it is you require
[05:44] <danny> lucreation:  so just click around the panel 'til i see "remove from panel" ?
[05:44] <xb3rt> unop: what are you using
[05:44] <unop> XB23, helping david ..
[05:44] <zero88> DAC1138, lucretian would i put the untarred folder in there? or the tar.gz?
[05:44] <xb3rt> unop: for the diagrams
[05:44] <lucretian> danny: I guess, if there's no better way to list things
[05:44] <lucretian> zero88: extract it
[05:45] <zero88> lucretian, k
[05:45] <Webfreak> Hey, I have a botnet on my Windows partition, so I came to my Ubuntu partition to try and get rid of it. How would I go about doing this? Is there a way to scan for botnets?
[05:45] <unop> XB23, im not doing anything, david is looking for "a good CAD application for electrical installations"
[05:45] <lucretian> having to untar style effects on the fly would be a little bit of a performance hit
[05:45] <tbsdy> hi all... in ajunta, you can add a c/c++ file easily, what about adding a python file?
[05:45] <internet_> What is the best pdf app for linux (create, convert to/from, edit)
[05:46] <david> unop: I use AutoCAD today at work to design schematics of electrical installations (wiring, outlets etc) for houses, offices and industries
[05:46] <lucretian> Webfreak: there are some anti-virus programs for linux that will find windows viruses
[05:46] <david> it would be fantastic to find a nice supplement to use on *nix
[05:46] <Webfreak> luc, really? I'm kinda a beginner at Ubuntu security, could you recommend some for me?
[05:46] <unop> david, dia can help with wiring blueprints for buildings, its meant for just that actually
[05:46] <david> unop: oh, my bad!
[05:47] <david> I found a poor link then :)
[05:47] <jams_> connect epsxe
[05:47] <tux97> night all
[05:49] <Webfreak> Can anyone recommend a virus scanner for Linux, that can detect malware on a Windows partition?
[05:49] <lucretian> Webfreak: all I ever used was Clam and that was for mail servers
[05:49] <Webfreak> ooh
[05:49] <lucretian> I think there's an avast! for linux
[05:49] <unop> Webfreak, clamav
[05:49] <Webfreak> thanks unop
[05:49]  * GreySim thirds clamav
[05:49] <Webfreak> and lc
[05:49] <Webfreak> luc
[05:50] <unop> Webfreak, there's an AVG for linux servers -- how that interacts with windows machines i'm not sure
[05:51] <Webfreak> unop, I'm gonna try clamav, and see if that does anything
[05:51] <unop> Webfreak, ok
[05:51] <blastron> Hello, I'm getting a new, unexpected error message whenever I try to boot: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off".