 You can tell them that you liked the view and you like to work from here again :p
[21:57] <praisethemoon_> elacheche: https://imgur.com/a/wjDTM


[02:06] <JackYu> happyaron, ping
[02:14] <JackYu> happyaron, 有个patch，麻烦有空打上：https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1228462
[13:27] <smartboyhw> JackYu, Launchpad is down, hah hah hahh
[13:27] <smartboyhw> London Datacentre (one of them) outage
[13:37] <JackYu> smartboyhw, ...
[13:37] <smartboyhw> JackYu, true
[13:37] <smartboyhw> ubuntu.com is down too
[13:38] <smartboyhw> and JackYu is down (LOL)
[13:39] <smartboyhw> JackYu, so technically, since I'm under 16 I don't get paid for http://www.ubuntukylin.com/recruitment/ eh? ;)
[13:39] <JackYu> smartboyhw, so many guys asking in #launchpad
[13:40] <smartboyhw> JackYu, yes
[13:41] <JackYu> smartboyhw, yeah... When will you reach 16?
[13:41] <smartboyhw> JackYu, in 10 months
[13:41] <JackYu> smartboyhw, so you have to work free in these 10 months:)
[13:42] <smartboyhw> JackYu, not a problem;)
[13:44] <smartboyhw> JackYu, so I just apply?
[13:47] <JackYu> smartboyhw, I suggest you apply when you reach 16 years old. However, you could contribute from now. In such case, there might be a higher salary at that day :)
[13:47] <smartboyhw> JackYu, LOL LOL
[15:47] <JackYu> happyaron, ping


[00:13] <Unit193> popey: Everything should be done.
[06:44] <popey> Unit193 many thanks
[06:45] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[23:42] <leftyfb> Are we sure this was a legit ban? Looks to have taken some innocents in the crossfire. https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/d3Ypz6bdKx/
[23:59] <RikMills> leftyfb: that ban is catching people in bulk using the beta matrix bridge :(


[10:49] <encbladexp> ButterflyOfFire, our domains should not point to other sites ;-)
[10:53] <ButterflyOfFire> yep encbladexp
[10:54] <ButterflyOfFire> dig ubuntu-dz.org points to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:54] <ButterflyOfFire> ubuntu-dz.org.		64760	IN	A	<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:57] <ButterflyOfFire> Asking Google public DNS gives the same : dig @<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu-dz.org
[11:07] <encbladexp> just write<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to change this, ubuntu-eu can't do this :-/
[11:08] <ButterflyOfFire> That's what I'm doing encbladexp ;) : sending a ticket to "rt" ;)
[11:09] <ButterflyOfFire> thanks :)
[11:11] <encbladexp> np


[00:01] <Twili> I guess they don't
[00:01] <Twili> too bad
[00:01] <Twili> They really really should release a UMPC image like they did with Ubuntu.
[01:00] <nikolam> hi i have trouble trying to remove linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-21-generic
[01:00] <nikolam> after automatic update to linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-22 the other day
[01:00] <crimsun> what sort of trouble?
[01:01] <nikolam> the trouble was didnt have enough space on /boot
[01:01] <nikolam> and removing -21 stopped
[01:01] <nikolam> package is marked broken
[01:01] <crimsun> right, you can hack around that by removing older kernels
[01:02] <nikolam> but can1 be uninstalled
[01:02] <nikolam> but it is not actually there
[01:02] <crimsun> what is not actually where?
[01:03] <nikolam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/82234/
[01:04] <crimsun> nikolam: touch it
[01:04] <crimsun> i.e., sudo touch /boot/System.map-2.6.24-21-generic
[01:04] <crimsun> then allow l-u-m-2.6.24-21-generic to be removed
[01:04] <nikolam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/82236/
[01:04] <nikolam> ok
[01:06] <nikolam> i did touch
[01:07] <nikolam> but i cant remove package
[01:08] <crimsun> what's the error?
[01:09] <nikolam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/82237/
[01:10] <crimsun> so create that directory
[01:11] <crimsun> sudo mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic
[01:14] <nikolam> Ok, It worked :)
[01:14] <nikolam> thanks crimsun
[01:14] <crimsun> np
[01:14] <nikolam> Next time, I should take closer look to message with error
[01:15] <nikolam> also i should1nt make /boot so small
[01:15] <nikolam> it is on eeepc, i was wrongly thinking of saving space and it resulted in problems
[01:15] <crimsun> mine /boot is fairly restricted in size
[01:15] <crimsun> s/mine/my/
[01:16] <nikolam> Yes but 50 megs is too small for update, as i see
[01:17] <crimsun> yeah, you have to be very deliberate in dist-upgrading, then
[01:17] <nikolam> i see that 100 should be min. and 250 will be right for most people
[01:18] <nikolam> i have happily 200 on desktop pc
[01:18] <crimsun> often it means removing l-r-m and l-u-m manually before applying further l-i upgrades that contain abi bumps
[01:27] <nikolam> 10x crimsun :)
[01:47] <forces> o7
[01:48] <forces> anybody with life?
[01:59] <misreckoning> hi everybody, I just wanted to say that I've installed Xubuntu for the first time (I'm linux user for 5 years or more) and I can't say that I've ever seen my computer running this fast :) thanks! :)
[02:00] <forces> :P
[02:00] <misreckoning> I guess this is because of Xfce :)
[02:00] <forces> another happy customer
[02:00] <forces> xfce rlz!!
[04:37] <likemindead> Ahoy.
[04:38] <likemindead> Yar ...
[05:25] <jon_high9000> hi there. i am new to Xubuntu. my question is regarding metacity themes. i am running intrepid 8.10 do i put downloaded folder into the /usr/share/themes folder to install?
[05:25] <knome> jon_high9000, sure.
[05:26] <jon_high9000> ok. i thought so. had to ask. thanks.
[05:28] <Myrtti> I hope he's actually using metacity
[05:28] <Myrtti> :-D
[05:28] <knome> Myrtti, that's his problem... ;)
[05:28] <knome> ....or her
[05:28]  * Myrtti is feeling hilarious after 2 hours of sleep
[05:28] <knome> lol
[05:29] <Myrtti> that really, honestly did crack me up
[05:29] <knome> haha
[05:30] <Myrtti> today will be one of those LOLWHUT days
[05:30] <knome> omzg
[05:30] <knome> i'm happy my "today" is going to end soon
[05:30] <Myrtti> shuddup, with love, Miia
[08:28] <dnyy> Hrm, I installed murinne for a theme, and now my window title bars are gone. :(
[10:54] <ULRICH`> hello
[10:55] <ULRICH`> I wanna ask somebody if there is any version of COREL that works on UNBUTU 8.10 ?
[10:57] <ablomen> ULRICH`, what corel product? word perfect, psp?
[10:57] <ULRICH`> draw
[10:57] <ULRICH`> graphics suite
[10:58] <ULRICH`> x3 if is possible
[10:59] <ablomen> well i dont see any native versions
[10:59] <ablomen> so you might want to check the wine app-db
[11:00] <ULRICH`> yes I want
[11:00] <ablomen> http://appdb.winehq.org/search_results.php?cx=013271970634691685804%3Abc-56dvxydi&cof=FORID%3A11&q=corel&sa=Search#906
[11:01] <ULRICH`> do you if I need a special driver for the NVIDIA 7300 GT PRO ?
[11:02] <ablomen> my guess is that its the normal nvidia driver (it should install that automaticly from the restricted hardware manager app), but its just a guess
[11:02] <ablomen> try google :)
[11:03] <ULRICH`> sorry...I found a good driver on official NVIDIA site
[11:03] <ablomen> oh you dont have/want to install the driver from the site
[11:04] <ULRICH`> why ?
[11:04] <R1cochet> hhow do i get a gui for xmms2?
[11:04] <ablomen> ULRICH`, because ubuntu has provided a driver for you
[11:04] <ULRICH`> a
[11:04] <ULRICH`> ok
[11:05] <ablomen> ULRICH`, see Menu=>System=>Hardware Drivers
[11:05] <ULRICH`> now I`m at work and I want to install unbutu when I`ll go home
[11:05] <ULRICH`> ubuntu*
[11:06] <ablomen> R1cochet, you might want to look at gxmms2
[11:06] <ablomen> R1cochet, it should be in the repositories
[11:06] <R1cochet> will that allow me to change skins as well
[11:06] <ULRICH`> ablomen do I neer some codecs to see videos ?
[11:06] <ablomen> R1cochet, i have no idea to be honest, dont use it myself :)
[11:06] <R1cochet> ok
[11:07] <R1cochet> may i ask what you do youse?
[11:07] <ablomen> ULRICH`, you might, but most of them get installed when you need them (if you use totem) and otherwise there are tonns of good (official) guides
[11:07] <ULRICH`> ok
[11:07] <ULRICH`> thanx
[11:07] <ablomen> R1cochet, for music Rhythmbox and for video VLC/MPlayer/sometimes totem
[11:08] <ablomen> mostly mplayer
[11:08] <ablomen> ULRICH`, np :)
[11:09] <R1cochet> ULRICH`: you will want to install xubuntu-restricted-extras, that grabs all the extra pluagins needed for audio/video
[11:09] <R1cochet> can you skin rhythmbox?
[11:09] <ULRICH`> I have downloaded the dexktop version X64
[11:09] <ablomen> R1cochet, its a gtk client, so it uses the same skin as other gtk apps
[11:10] <ablomen> ULRICH`, you might want to stick to 32 bit version
[11:10] <ablomen> ULRICH`, better support for flash, windows media formats, wine etc
[11:10] <ULRICH`> why ? that 64 bit version is nod good ?
[11:10] <ULRICH`> ok
[11:10] <ablomen> well on a desktop pc youll never know the speed difference, and it can be a pain in the buttox sometimes
[11:11] <ULRICH`> thanx again
[11:11] <R1cochet> ablomen: do you mean youser interface themes
[11:11] <ablomen> R1cochet, yep
[11:11] <R1cochet> user*
[11:11] <R1cochet> ok
[11:11] <ablomen> so it will always look "right"
[11:11] <R1cochet> £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ
[11:12] <ablomen> anyway, time for food, im out of here
[11:12] <R1cochet> byout i want to change the whole skin like you can in ayoudacioyous or winamp
[11:12] <R1cochet> £aters thank you
[12:11] <generalsnus> Is there any way of viewing a LTSP session?  like remote desktop into a thinclient session..
[12:16] <kudi1> how do you keep your current theme but change the bar at that top
[13:55] <generalsnus> 	I have managed to get "student-control-panel" to work, i can see users desktop with the x11vnc.. but how can i control the desktops?
[16:36] <ball> What instruction set is Xubuntu compiled for usually?
[16:36] <ball> s/usually//
[16:42] <ball> (i.e. will it run on a Pentium?)
[16:42] <Odd-rationale> ball: yeah, it will run on most pentiums.
[16:43] <ball> Does it require MMX?
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> ball: might want to see the supported architect page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedArchitectures
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> see if that helps any...
[16:49] <ball> Hmm... makes it sound as though it's compiled with just 80386 instructions, but I doubt that.
[16:52] <ball> Perhaps I'll use this box for Oberon.
[17:36] <Marky> Would anyone happen to have any sugestions for replacing the wireless network manager in Ubuntu 8.10? It needs to be something I can download and then transfer using a USB key
[18:46] <dnyy> My window's title bars have gone missin' after installing a theme that installed murrine.  And it won't let me go to the window manager settings, I get an error saying my window manager is unknown.  Does xfce not support murrine or what? :/
[21:02] <forces> saluton
[21:04] <TheSheep> hello forces
[21:05] <forces> hi!
[21:06] <forces> how are you?
[21:06] <TheSheep> fine, thanks, you?
[21:09] <forces> here, it's cold
[21:09]  * forces con frio
[21:09]  * forces is downloading ubuntu 8.10
[21:51] <retour> need help with DVD-RAM and mkudffs
[22:04] <tingle> hi i would like to use alt+1 alt+2 ect use in xterm for window switching in irssi
[22:04] <tingle> but it doest work bij default could anyone tell me how i can fix this?
[22:05] <TheSheep> tingle: disable these shortcuts in terminal's preferences
[22:06] <tingle> TheSheep: how can i get to these xterm preferences?
[22:07] <TheSheep> tingle: right click inside your terminal and select' preferences' from the menu
[22:11] <tingle> doesnt work in xterm.. youre prolly using gnome-terminal
[22:16] <TheSheep> tingle: no, I'm using xubuntu's default "Terminal", or xfce4-terminal
[22:42] <retour> need help with DVD-RAM and mkudffs
[23:09] <Twile> Hello
[23:11] <Twile> HI
[23:11] <TheSheep> Twile: don't shout :)
[23:12] <Twile> sorry I had caps on by accident
[23:13] <naenae87> ok im running xubuntu 8.04 i think. but only problem is my desktop is at like a 30% Zooom . so everything looks like jumbo size.. does anyone know how to get my desktop to looking normal again>??????????
[23:13] <Twile> Try right clicking on the desktop and go into settings
[23:13] <Twile> It may be displaying at a retarded resolution
[23:13] <TheSheep> naenae87: maybe change your display resolution in setting manager?
[23:13] <naenae87> ok ill try that
[23:14] <Twile> 1240x768 (or something like that)  would be best
[23:14] <naenae87> ok
[23:14] <Twile> ^^
[23:14] <Twile> I gotta go eat noe
[23:14] <Twile> now*
[23:15] <Twile> But you know what I'd really like, a UMPC (LiveUSB) Distro of Xubuntu like they have for Ubuntu (as of 8.10).  One without the need for specail installations like the ones on pendrivelinux
[23:15] <Twile> Not that pendrive linux is bad
[23:15] <Twile> anyways gotta go
[23:31] <Twile> Is there a UMPC image for Xubuntu like there is for Ubuntu (as of 8.10)?  It's like a live CD, except persistent and on a USB drive.  Not sure if you still have to change the BIOS settings or not though.
[23:33] <Twile> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[23:38] <Twile> !help
[23:38] <Twile> !usb
[23:56] <retour> need help with DVD-RAM and mkudffs


[07:54] <ailo> falktx, linux-sampler is non free
[07:54] <ailo> It has a limitation to it's license which makes it impossible to add it Debian
[07:54] <ailo> That's what I've  been led to believe at least
[07:54] <ailo> It's GPL, but with an addition
[07:56] <falktx> ailo: consider this:
[07:56] <falktx> skype and sun-java are in debian
[07:56] <falktx> linuxsampler, just because of a tiny expection is not?
[07:57] <falktx> it makes no sense to me
[07:57] <ailo> falktx, You could take it up with Debian people. I'm sure it would have been in their repo a long time ago
[07:57] <ailo> Otherwise
[07:57] <falktx> debian is too strict
[07:57] <ailo> I think they added the limitation to prevent it to be sold as a of hardware
[07:57] <ailo> as a part of hardware, I mean
[07:58] <falktx> ailo: take for example audacious, they removed some code simply because the headers did not mentioned the license
[07:58] <ailo> falktx, Debian is debian. There are other distros that will include linux-sampler
[07:58] <falktx> that is bullshit to me
[07:59] <falktx> this is why I love arch
[07:59] <ailo> I like Debian, because they are strict
[07:59] <ailo> I can trust it
[08:00] <falktx> it's the same thing as with GPL
[08:00] <ailo> Doing things anyway you want is not trustworthy
[08:00] <falktx> its cool enough, but once you start thinking commercially, there's nothing worst
[08:01] <falktx> ailo: afaik, they could simply show the license when installing, like they do for java and ms-fonts
[08:01] <falktx> I just think they are not very interested, that's all
[08:02] <ailo> falktx, Talk with the multimedia team. I'm sure they're quite interested in linux-sampler
[08:02] <ailo> It's been around for a long time
[08:02] <falktx> ailo: I will soon, take my word
[12:10] <knome> ScottL, what's the status with including social media in the new website? you still want that?
[14:21] <ScottL> knome, i think including it would be good, just to show that people are talking about it
[14:22] <ScottL> but i'll poke stochastic about his feelings since he was the one who started questioning it
[14:23] <ScottL> knome, btw, i hope to work on the website today now that i'm feeling better and holiday is (more or less) over
[16:04] <knome> ScottL, great! let me know if there is something you need help with and i'll see if i can fix that right away
[16:39] <holstein> i feel like as long as we state the purpose of the social media, and our understanding of why it would be opposed, all should be good
[16:40] <holstein> "we understand that the use of such services can be controversial in an open community, however, we feel this is a necessary evil to reach users who are not aware of US"
[17:52] <ailo> holstein, ScottL Check out diaspora
[17:52] <ailo> No need for facebook, or twitter
[17:52] <ailo> diaspora is free
[17:53] <holstein> yeah, but its got to be something folks use, or it defeats the purpose
[17:53] <holstein> does it link up with facebag? or twite?
[17:53] <ailo> https://diasp.org/
[17:53] <ailo> I hear google+ based some of their stuff on this
[17:54] <ailo> You can link it up with facebook at least, but it's still alpha
[17:54] <ailo> There are "pods" available for anyone to use
[17:54] <holstein> i think its got to be easily accesible from the popular ones
[17:54] <ailo> You can also install your own pod on your own server if you like
[17:55] <ailo> holstein, Just have a look first, ok?
[17:55] <holstein> of course, we can individually "social-media" about it
[17:55] <holstein> we dont have to have it
[17:55] <ailo> It's still alpha, but it's pretty good
[17:55] <holstein> ailo: well, if its not facebook/twitter, it doesnt help
[17:55] <holstein> the problem is, thats what folks use
[17:55] <holstein> if theres a step involved to go to diaspora, they wont
[17:55] <ailo> holstein, You can have those as well as diaspora, why wouldn't you?
[17:56] <holstein> or havent*
[17:56] <holstein> ailo: well, i would
[17:56] <holstein> and you would
[17:56] <holstein> but, will that other guy?
[17:56] <holstein> they guy that doesnt know what we are talking about?
[17:56] <holstein> or doesnt care
[17:56] <holstein> just wants to make music, and click on things
[17:56] <ailo> https://diasp.org/'
[17:56] <ailo> sorry wrong link
[17:56] <holstein> "this looks insteresting, hmmm whats diaspora?... oh well, back to pro-tools"
[17:57] <ailo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(software)
[17:57] <holstein> you know what i mean?
[17:57] <ailo> holstein, No, I don't know what you mean
[17:57] <holstein> ailo: the main problem with *any* facebook alternative is, thats its not facebook
[17:57] <ailo> Seriously, holstein
[17:58] <holstein> yeah
[17:58] <holstein> thats the point
[17:58] <holstein> otherwise, why do it?
[17:58] <holstein> we dont *need* social interfacing
[17:58] <holstein> the only reason i would want it for US is to grab folks from facebook
[17:58] <holstein> current facebook users
[17:58] <holstein> tap into that already existing comunity
[17:58] <holstein> where those folks will *never* come to IRC
[17:58] <holstein> or a forum
[17:58] <holstein> or a wiki
[17:59] <holstein> we have to go to them.. or thats the argument
[17:59] <ailo> holstein, Diaspora is still mainly used by people like us. At around 200'000 users right now
[17:59] <ailo> And it's growing
[18:00] <holstein> right
[18:00] <ailo> Take a look, before you keep talking
[18:00] <holstein> but... the argument is, thats like preaching to the choir
[18:00] <holstein> i mean, i looked at the link
[18:00] <holstein> and im into it
[18:00] <holstein> but, you dont need me
[18:00] <holstein> im already using ubuntustudio
[18:00] <holstein> and others who will search 'open alternative to facebook'
[18:00] <holstein> those are not the folks we need to target
[18:00] <holstein> those are us
[18:00] <holstein> we are those users
[18:00] <holstein> and we are here
[18:01] <holstein> the argument is, we need facebook and the other more popular closed ones to tap that resource of non-technical folks
[18:01] <holstein> the 'other' users
[18:01] <holstein> ailo: you dig?
[18:02] <ailo> holstein, There's no reason why you can't have them all at once. And why not support diaspora, if you're going to support fb, and twitter?
[18:02] <ailo> It would seem funny, when open source guys don't want to use open source software
[18:02] <ailo> Especially software as good as diaspora
[18:03] <holstein> ailo: OH... you want to add that in..
[18:03] <holstein> sure
[18:03] <holstein> thats fine
[18:03] <holstein> i thought you were suggesting that *instead*
[18:03] <holstein> i mean... what about linkedin?
[18:03] <holstein> i dont know anything about that...
[18:04] <ailo> holstein, If you have doubts about fb and twitter, at least diaspora is available. And it's growing fast
[18:05] <holstein> ailo: i dont think its an issue of doubt
[18:05] <holstein> i hate them
[18:05] <holstein> but i think we need to do it *if* our goal is to reach those people
[18:05] <holstein> the question is, who is our target audience?
[18:06] <holstein> if its the public at large, we need to do it


[12:23] <sbalneav> Any ubuntu devs about?  I've set up an eft box, and now my gnome-panel uses up 50% cpu :(
[12:23] <sbalneav> something's borkified.
[12:24] <sbalneav> 4
[12:26] <pygi> sbalneav, newest update?
[12:26] <sbalneav> just installed it an hour or so.  Did an edubuntu dapper install, then dist-upgrade to edgy
[12:27] <pygi> oh, fresh install is better
[12:27] <mhz> pygi: I have been using my MMDE instance to generate docs for EHB
[12:27] <mhz> I hope I can upload them soon this weekend
[12:27] <pygi> mhz, nice
[12:27] <pygi> hedge is kinda busy, but you, me, and she will get it done
[12:28] <sbalneav> so I should grab a knot?
[12:28] <pygi> sbalneav, sure
[12:28] <pygi> or try to mess with current conf. to fix it
[12:28] <sbalneav> hmmm, where's the knots at....
[12:29] <mhz> pygi: I just realized that my non-having web at home has made it difficult to me to get in contact with you all, but I have been doing progress on my part for EHB (the light desktops)
[12:30] <pygi> mhz, don't worry, but we MUST have a meeting very soon
[12:30] <sbalneav> what's the latest, knot 2?
[12:32] <mhz> pygi: yup, but please email me with alternatives because this 'using cibercafes' is not best option for me to irc, unless very needed.
[12:33] <pygi> mhz, I know, don't worry
[12:33] <pygi> sbalneav, yes
[12:34] <mhz> thx
[12:38] <pygi> Burgundavia, hello
[12:38] <Burgundavia> hey pygi
[12:38] <pygi> how is you?
[12:38] <Burgundavia> not bad
[12:39] <Burgundavia> currently at ubucon
[12:39] <pygi> oh :)
[12:39] <pygi> gonna attend hungarian "Ubuntu Users Conference" as well?
[12:44] <pygi> Burgundavia, poke? :)
[12:45] <Burgundavia> pygi: yep?
[12:45] <pygi> Burgundavia, the question? :)
[12:45] <Burgundavia> you have a question?
[12:45] <pygi> Burgundavia, "gonna attend hungarian "Ubuntu Users Conference" as well?" :)
[12:46] <Burgundavia> not likely. I little far for me
[12:51] <pygi> Burgundavia, oki
[02:12] <bddebian> Hello
[05:11] <sbalneav> bddebian: ping
[05:12] <sbalneav> Know of any gnome-panel bugs in edgy?  When I click on the applications menu, it just drops down and flashes, like it's constantly opening and closing.  There's nothing in my .xsession-errors
[05:13] <bddebian> sbalneav: Not that I am aware of, sorry
[12:46] <spiekey> hello!
[12:47] <spiekey> i have the task to install 15 computers in a primary school and i would like to use GNU/Linux there.
[12:47] <spiekey> now is the question what distribution. Ebuntu sounds to be the right choise, but is it available in plain german?
[12:48] <spiekey> OpenSuSE is a german distribution which looks cool and smoth. I use it myself on my laptop. Why should i use ebuntu instead of SuSE?  :)
[12:50] <highvoltage> edubuntu givees you access to a larger amount of software in its repositories
[12:50] <highvoltage> it also has a predictable and reliable release cycle, which helps with planning
[12:50] <highvoltage> additionally, each release is supoorted for 18 months, with the enterprise release (also free) with 3 years support
[12:51] <spiekey> good points ;)
[12:51] <highvoltage> edubuntu might be a bit more work to get it working exactly the way you want than opensuse, but in terms of maintenance and reliability, I would personally choose Edubuntu
[12:51] <highvoltage> edubuntu also benefits of all the testing that has gone into Ubuntu. OpenSuse doesn't go through the same type of testing that Ubuntu does.
[12:52] <spiekey> okok, you got me ;)
[12:52] <spiekey> i will be able to install it in 9mins.
[12:52] <highvoltage> I'm not so soure about the language support, but ogra, who is the main developer of Edubuntu, should be able to anser that for you (he's German too)
[12:52] <highvoltage> he'll probably be here a little later.
[12:52] <highvoltage> you might also want to add edubuntu-de to your channel list ;)
[12:53] <pygi> spiekey, yes, it is available in german
[12:53] <pygi> hey highvoltage
[12:53] <highvoltage> hey pygi
[01:01] <spiekey> so the only thing what ebuntu differs from ubuntu is the software repositiries?
[01:02] <pygi> no, repository is same
[01:02] <lucasvo> spiekey: not the repositories, they're the same, the installed packages differ
[01:02] <pygi> lucasvo, that's kinda wrong
[01:04] <spiekey> do you have some personal experience with the learning software? Is it useful or ready yet?
[01:05] <lucasvo> spiekey: yes, it is
[01:05] <spiekey> the school used to have win2k and a math and spelling programm they used. it was colorful, soundy and funny.
[01:05] <spiekey> i need to be able to replace all this ;)
[01:05] <lucasvo> spiekey: depends on what age your kids are, the software they can use has sounds or not
[01:06] <lucasvo> spiekey: install one workstation and try to install the apps using wine
[01:06] <spiekey> lucasvo: i am trying to get that running here with wine 0.9.19 but it fails :(
[01:07] <spiekey> wine is quite slow, too. To switch to plain  OpenSource software would just be great.
[01:07] <spiekey> but the school should also e happy with it. Thats the really difficult thing ;)
[01:07] <pygi> spiekey, I do have experience with it
[01:07] <pygi> I converted couple of schools to Edubuntu, and they are very satisfied
[01:08] <spiekey> is a 800MHz box with 512MB Ram enough for such an installation?
[01:09] <lucasvo> spiekey: for one workstation yes
[01:09] <lucasvo> for a server with 3 cliens it should be ok as well
[01:10] <spiekey> the server is a 800MHz Box, too.
[01:10] <spiekey> currently it is a PDC for 4 win2k workstations and it seems to hande it well.
[01:10] <pygi> spiekey, ugh, you know, rather get excellent server and then a cheap thinclients
[01:11] <pygi> that's how edubuntu works in general
[01:11] <pygi> bbl, lunch
[01:11] <lucasvo> spiekey: for normal workstation installation that's enough
[01:12] <spiekey> are 400MHz and 128MB ram enough for a thin client?
[01:12] <lucasvo> yes
[01:13] <RichEd> 'lo highvoltage : what was the CSIR kiosk link
[01:18] <highvoltage> lo rich
[01:19] <highvoltage> http://www.digitaldoorway.co.za
[01:19] <highvoltage> lo RichEd :)
[01:19] <RichEd> high hivoltage ;) thanks for the link
[01:21] <RichEd> highvoltage: do you do any kiosk work with Impi ?
[01:22] <RichEd> and do you have recent contact details for gary fortuin ?
[01:22] <RichEd> email or cell wold be nice :)
[01:22] <RichEd> would ... (missed U ;)
[01:23] <highvoltage> RichEd: no, we have not done any kiosk work with Impi
[01:23] <highvoltage> and yes, I have recent contact with Gary Fortuin
[01:23] <ogra> wow, they plaster their schools with industrial ovens ?
[01:24] <RichEd> hi ogra :) did the porche make it okay ?
[01:24] <ogra> why should it make it today ?
[01:24] <ogra> it starts tomorrow :)
[01:24] <ogra> but i'm sure it will be all fine :)
[01:24] <RichEd> porsche : i thought you were driving today ... premature
[01:25] <highvoltage> RichEd: tel:<PHONE_NUMBER>, cell:<PHONE_NUMBER><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:25] <ogra> no, i'm just perparing the packages for local device support, so i can have them next week to work on stuff
[01:25] <RichEd> b.t.w. ogra some nice stuff unfolding with Intel & Canonical re: education
[01:25] <ogra> cool !
[01:26] <spiekey> ah! hello orga ;)
[01:27] <spiekey> i was told you are german and i am currently trying to migrate a primary school (Grundschule) to GNU/Linux, ebuntu in this case.
[01:27] <RichEd> highvoltage: scwheet my bra
[01:27] <spiekey> are there some german documents out there which are short and pregnant and explain why we should use ebuntu for the school?
[01:28] <spiekey> it would be cool if i could give the headmaster some short, non tecnical, infos.
[01:29] <ogra> spiekey, sorry, sadly there is not much translated yet ... look for juliux ... ask him if he comes around, he's from the german community, i know they have some small stuff like flyers etc
[01:30] <RichEd> spieky: I'm the education 1st point of contact for Canonical ... you can mail me on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:30] <RichEd> i can send you some info from my official address, and see where I can help
[01:31] <ogra> spiekey, show your headmaster a liveCD ;) that says more than 1000 words
[01:31] <spiekey> RichEd: i guess you mean german info stuff?
[01:31] <spiekey> orga: live cds are slow ;)
[01:31] <RichEd> not yet in german, but we can chat about what info works, and see if we can get a translation for you ... even an informal one
[01:32] <spiekey> the real problem is not the operating system, but the app software i need to be able to replace.
[01:32] <pygi> RichEd, if you have any suggestions for my presentations, that would also be great ^_^
[01:32] <pygi> Tho, I do have some interesting ideas already ;)
[01:32] <RichEd> we are preparing various case study / promo brochure documents over the next 4-6 weeks
[01:32] <RichEd> spiekey: here is a good place to start ...
[01:32] <RichEd> spiekey: here is a good place to start
[01:32] <RichEd> :P wait for the correct paste
[01:32] <RichEd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy
[01:33] <spiekey> RichEd: 4-6 weeks? i need to present it in a week :P. hehe
[01:33] <spiekey> thanks
[01:33] <spiekey> i would be intrested to help with that if needed.
[01:33] <RichEd> pygi ... can you send me a mail ... i don't always get a chance to pick up in IRC threads
[01:33] <ogra> spiekey, i'm sure juliux has something he can send you immediately
[01:34] <spiekey> orga: have you got his email address, too?
[01:34] <ogra> but any help in that area would indeed be appreciated
[01:34] <pygi> RichEd, oki, mail pls? :)
[01:34] <RichEd> spiekey: ^^^  i would be intrested to help with that if needed : great we can help each other then
[01:34] <pygi> ah, saw it
[01:34] <RichEd> pygi scroll up approx 25 lines
[01:34] <pygi> saw, thanks
[01:34] <ogra> spiekey<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:34] <highvoltage> pygi! :)
[01:35] <highvoltage> pygi: i wrote a cd with libburn yesterday, and it worked
[01:35] <pygi> highvoltage, wow, over k3b?
[01:35] <highvoltage> i didn't try it with k3b yet, i'll do that tonight
[01:35] <RichEd> spiekey: send me an informal mail with some background to you & the request ... i'll see where we can synergise
[01:35] <pygi> highvoltage, oki, glad to hear it works :)
[01:35] <highvoltage> but i burned a cd from the command line and it just worked
[01:35] <pygi> I even fixed the build system (do an "svn up") so you may even install it
[01:36] <pygi> or just wait for packages
[01:36] <pygi> debian dropped "regular" cdrtools btw.
[01:36] <DrkLrd> RichEd, u there?
[01:36] <highvoltage> really? what do they use now?
[01:37] <pygi> highvoltage, short-term solution will be forked cdrtools
[01:37] <highvoltage> cool, so ubuntu will probably follow suite?
[01:37] <pygi> I can't say, but I would assume so
[01:37] <RichEd> yes oh evil master
[01:37] <RichEd> (in stealth mode)
[01:37] <pygi> highvoltage, guess what's long term solution :)
[01:37] <highvoltage> libburn?
[01:37] <pygi> ;)
[01:38] <highvoltage> *excellent*
[01:39] <pygi> not really, makes a lot of pressure
[01:40] <RichEd> spiekey: can you cc me into these emails<EMAIL_ADDRESS>? although my German is not so good ... I will guess my way around with my knowledge of Afrikaans = a Kitchen Dutch
[01:41] <pygi> RichEd, you've got mail
[01:41] <pygi> highvoltage, but glad libburn works for you :)
[01:41] <highvoltage> RichEd: reading german doesnt' seem so difficult for us, I tried to listen to ogra and dholbach speak, but they talk to fast :)
[01:42] <highvoltage> pygi: now i just need a libdvdcurn :p
[01:42] <highvoltage> s/curn/burn/
[01:42] <pygi> highvoltage, that will never exist :)
[01:42] <pygi> it'll be part of libburn :)
[01:42] <highvoltage> nice
[01:42] <RichEd> highvoltage: they probably speak an elitist german dialect designed to keep newbies intimidated ;)
[01:42] <highvoltage> hopegully sooner, rather than later :)
[01:42] <highvoltage> RichEd: i'm sure they do!
[01:43] <pygi> highvoltage, we'll see :)
[01:43] <pygi> I must find someone willing to do some ubuntu packaging work for now :)
[01:44] <highvoltage> anyone seen Hedgemadge recently?
[01:44] <juliux> !seen hedemadge
[01:44] <pygi> highvoltage, no, she's very busy
[01:44] <ubotu> I haven't seen hedemadge recently
[01:44] <highvoltage> what's she doing?
[01:45] <pygi> highvoltage, that military thingy, vacation at her parents, etc.
[01:45] <pygi> at least I think so
[01:45] <juliux> btw is the edubuntu handbook ready?
[01:46] <pygi> juliux, no, ofcourse not
[01:47] <juliux> pygi, ok
[01:47] <juliux> because somebody was asking me, he wanted translate it into german
[01:47] <pygi> juliux, he/she can translate dapper one
[01:48] <juliux> pygi, so the dapper one is finished?
[01:48] <pygi> juliux, ages ago
[01:48] <juliux> thats good
[01:48] <pygi> it was published same day as dapper
[01:49] <juliux> pygi, i was the laste month very busy, so i didnt see what happend ;)
[01:51] <spiekey> mail sent. check your mails juliux and RichEd  ;)
[01:52] <RichEd> danke spiekey
[01:52] <spiekey> bitteschn ;)
[01:53] <juliux> spiekey, gelesen
[01:53] <juliux> spiekey, where we only have german ubunut flyer not more
[01:54] <juliux> -s where
[01:54] <RichEd> juliux: we haven't met ... but we need to get relationship going ... spiekey's request is a good place to start
[01:54] <juliux> RichEd, yes it is
[01:54] <RichEd> see: https://wiki.canonical.com/RichardWeideman
[01:55] <juliux> RichEd, epiphany said i need a password
[01:55] <juliux> :(
[01:55] <spiekey> to get it starting...do we need some Edbuntu Requirement Specification or something?
[01:55] <RichEd> oh ... let me send you via email ... and copy to edubuntu & ubuntu wikis later this weekend
[01:55] <juliux> spiekey, where are you living? we show edubuntu on a couple of fairs every year
[01:56] <spiekey> juliux: near Stuttgart.
[01:56] <juliux> spiekey, hm near stuttgart is not good there is no expo
[01:56] <spiekey> hehe
[01:57] <spiekey> juliux: well, i am sure edbuntu rulez. the real problem is the "Marketing" here.
[01:57] <juliux> spiekey, yes i know, but the marketing is not so bad, we had a lot of response on cebit and linuxtag in wiesbaden
[01:57] <spiekey> once the staff wants linux its an easy game. but to get them that far is the difficult task.
[01:58] <spiekey> juliux: i know, i have been there. :o)
[01:58] <juliux> spiekey, ah
[01:58] <spiekey> juliux: still, i would like to bring edbuntu to a school and it currently fails with non-technical information for the responsible staff.
[01:59] <spiekey> something which explains opensource in 5-10 sentences, and then why in particular you want edbuntu in schools.
[01:59] <juliux> spiekey, that is right
[01:59] <spiekey> they really dont care that its stable and comes from ubuntu, etc.. :)
[02:00] <juliux> i think we have to write something ;)
[02:00] <spiekey> indeed! i am with you.
[02:00] <spiekey> thats why i think we should start with a SRS :)
[02:01] <juliux> spiekey, i started with this some month ago http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Edubuntu/Konzept to show the real price for an edubuntu installation
[02:03] <spiekey> juliux: its a start :)
[02:03] <juliux> yes it is
[02:03] <juliux> but the big problem is that there is no german shop where you can buy thinclients
[02:04] <juliux> the shops who are selling thinclients cant say if they support pxe
[02:04] <RichEd> juliux: intro email sent :)
[02:05] <juliux> RichEd, thxs
[02:06] <juliux> RichEd, you have a great job ;)
[02:06] <RichEd> concidence: my first email email contact with someone called Mario ... and there are 2 in a row in my inbox : pygiMario & spiekeymario
[02:06] <spiekey> juliux: well, thats the hardware part. I would also make a calculation with already present hardware.
[02:06] <juliux> hehe
[02:07] <RichEd> coatia & germany ...
[02:07] <RichEd> croatia :P
[02:07] <RichEd> i guess we are different but all the same :)
[02:07] <spiekey> huh?
[02:07] <juliux> spiekey, yes sure, but the problem is that you have to now what hardware is in the school, and that is very different.
[02:08] <pygi> RichEd, I am mario :)
[02:08] <spiekey> i am too :)
[02:08] <pygi> hello mario :)
[02:08] <spiekey> hello! ;)
[02:08] <RichEd> spiekey: pygi mailed me: Mario ani (Croatia) spiekey mailed me: Mario Ohnewald (Germany)
[02:08] <juliux> spiekey, the problem is that in some areas each school has his own budget for hard and software, in other areas there is on central office who is buying all the it stuff
[02:08] <spiekey> juliux: this would requite a splitted Konzept. One with and one without hardware.
[02:09] <RichEd> so i guess my job is pretty international but repetitive ;)
[02:09] <juliux> spiekey, hm its an good idea
[02:09] <juliux> spiekey, but then they only need a good documentation
[02:10] <juliux> spiekey, and we need a marketing paper;)
[02:10] <spiekey> juliux: yes, well...
[02:10] <spiekey> indeed!!!
[02:10] <juliux> something why to use edubuntu
[02:10] <spiekey> yeess! ;)
[02:10] <RichEd> juliux: [you have a great job ]  yes i do ... exciting but hectic ... this is the year of Ubuntu & Edubuntu ... growth & enquiries are exponential ... in volume (number of enquireis / projects) and implementations (number of installs)
[02:11] <spiekey> lets say we have a Index. Index 1 is "Vorwort" or whatever.
[02:11] <juliux> RichEd, yes it is hectic, i was this year on three expos to present ubuntu and edubuntu and there are three left ;)
[02:11] <spiekey> 2. Requirements.
[02:11] <juliux> spiekey, i think it should be only on din a 4 page not more
[02:11] <juliux> s/on/one
[02:11] <spiekey> 2.1 Hardware requrement. 2.2. Buy hardware if not present.
[02:11] <spiekey> or something alike.
[02:12] <spiekey> juliux: the markeing stuff, yes.
[02:12] <juliux> spiekey, we should do that with some other people from the community in germany
[02:12] <juliux> RichEd, have fun
[02:12] <RichEd> goodby to all Mario's, wherever you are
[02:12] <spiekey> juliux: once they want it, you need a little tiny bit more infos which should fit on another DINA4 page or something.
[02:13] <RichEd> and the rest of you as well
[02:13] <spiekey> RichEd: thanks. and have fun!
[02:13] <RichEd> :)
[02:13] <juliux> spiekey, a double layer din a 4 page should be enough
[02:13] <spiekey> juliux: kisas (keep it short and stupid)
[02:13] <spiekey> but then the hardware calucaltion is a overkill in my opinion.
[02:14] <juliux> spiekey, sorry but i have buy some food no before the shops close, i will be back in 1,5hrs
[02:14] <spiekey> okidoke.
[02:14] <spiekey> we really need a markeing concept here ;)
[02:48] <pygi> highvoltage, el-torito support for libisofs :)
[02:49] <spiekey> orga: you there?
[02:51] <spiekey> what would you guys put on a flyer?
[02:51] <spiekey> i choose: Whats opensource? Whats Linux? Whats Edbuntu? How much is Edbuntu? Apps for Edbuntu?
[02:59] <Yagisan> spiekey, you need to put on the flyer what it can do for them
[02:59] <Yagisan> otherwise they won't read it
[03:00] <Yagisan> need to sell the benefits of it
[03:00] <Yagisan> eg "You can save hundreds of $$$ per year with Edubuntu"
[03:01] <spiekey> good idea!
[03:03] <juliux> and you have to write something about the apps in edubuntu
[03:03] <juliux> and which kind of students should use the apps
[03:03] <juliux> and away again ;)
[03:07] <spiekey> argh!
[03:07] <spiekey> well, you need to lie to the customer, right? You wont be able to explain why Linux is not a OS but just the kernel :P
[03:08] <spiekey> check it out: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=18980
[03:10] <Yagisan> spiekey, I often never mention Linux to customers. I sell "Ubuntu" to them
[03:10] <Yagisan> well, technically, I sell "Ubuntu" training and migration
[03:11] <spiekey> well, in that case i would go even further and skip ubuntu, too. Start streight with edbuntu. Its not fair for ubuntu and GNU/Linux, but it will be efficient
[03:11] <Yagisan> Haveing the live cd to demo is very handy
[03:11] <spiekey> damn non-technical nerds!
[03:12] <spiekey> n8n8
[04:16] <juliux> spiekey, do you want to make marketing for linux or for edubuntu?
[04:20] <bddebian> Hello
[04:21] <juliux> hi bddebian
[04:21] <bddebian> Hello juliux
[04:30] <spiekey> juliux: for both :D
[04:38] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:40] <bddebian> Morning sbalneav
[04:41] <sbalneav> Morning bddebian
[04:46] <spiekey> hiho
[04:47] <bddebian> Hello spiekey
[04:52] <juliux> spiekey, so you want to make marketing for linux via edubuntu?
[04:58] <spiekey> juliux: hehe, no.
[04:59] <spiekey> they must use edbuntu and its tools.
[04:59] <spiekey> did you have a look at my pastebin?
[05:00] <juliux> your pastebin?
[05:00] <spiekey> [15:08]  <spiekey> check it out: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=18980
[05:00] <juliux> ah
[05:01] <spiekey> i wanna avoid that they get confused with linux/edubuntu
[05:01] <juliux> spiekey, i will talk with some marketing people in de next week and will see if they have a good idea
[05:01] <spiekey> okidoke
[05:02] <juliux> because i have no idea what a non technical people want to have on a flyer, and what he needs to understand why edubuntu is cool
[05:03] <spiekey> year, its best to ask some Zahlenschieber ppl ;)
[05:03] <juliux> no not a zahlenschieber, we need marketing people
[05:04] <spiekey> well, yes. i was only kidding. sorry
[05:04] <juliux> but i knwo some people who are makeing marketing for other opensource projects
[05:04] <spiekey> thats cool!
[05:52] <pygi> RichEd, poke
[05:57] <spiekey> gotta go. cya
[07:26] <cbx33> Hiya all
[07:26] <cbx33> phew what a lovely weekend
[07:26] <cbx33> well fri/sat
[07:28] <highvoltage> cbx33: glad to hre that you're having a good time
[07:28] <cbx33> highvoltage, stayed in a 4 start hotel for a night for lisa and mines wedding anniversary :p
[07:28] <cbx33> s/start/star
[07:28] <cbx33> how are you
[07:29] <cbx33> seems like ages since we last spoke out of meetings
[07:31] <cbx33> brb
[07:36] <highvoltage> hey cbx33
[07:36] <highvoltage> i'm doing ok
[07:36] <cbx33> yeh#hows the projet?
[07:37] <highvoltage> trying to relax but finding it a bit diffucult
[07:37] <cbx33> now taht you are a company?
[07:37] <cbx33> ah...
[07:37] <highvoltage> it's doing well
[07:37] <cbx33> went to the pool 4 times in 2 dys
[07:37] <highvoltage> there's some exciting things happening, lots of local labs that are going to be installed
[07:37] <cbx33> and spent some time in the spa !
[07:37] <cbx33> Excellent
[07:37] <highvoltage> some possible things in the future with canonical too
[07:37] <cbx33> highvoltage, excellent
[07:37] <cbx33> I'll be working more on SCP tomorrow
[07:37] <highvoltage> i spent the afternoon with friends at the beach, but it was way too cold and windy
[07:40] <cbx33> heheh
[07:41] <cbx33> I've gotten some strange emails from ogra
[07:41] <cbx33> he's sent me a load of stuff with some microsoft formatting......this isn't like him at all
[07:42] <highvoltage> it's not really from ogra
[07:43] <highvoltage> it's someone who uses outlook express that got infected, and now it sends those e-mails to everyone in their address book
[07:43] <highvoltage> must be someone on one of the mailing lists, since we both get them
[07:43] <highvoltage> someone did it spoofing janew's e-mail address too
[07:44] <cbx33> ah ok
[07:44] <cbx33> thought so
[07:44] <cbx33> ogra NEVER mails me
[07:46] <cbx33> heheh
[07:46] <cbx33> ok I'll delete them
[07:48] <highvoltage> there was a time where i deleted all mails that contained outlook express in the headers :)
[08:00] <cbx33> heheh
[08:57] <hlabs>  HI. I need some help . How can i setup my linux box to act as a network file server. Like i want my windows pc to store all files on the linux box
[08:58] <bddebian> hlabs: Short answer, samba.  Longer answer, you should probably ask in #ubuntu.
[09:41] <cbx33> hi ogra
[09:41] <cbx33> ping
[10:06] <sbalneav> ogra: ping
[10:07] <hlabs>  ok how can i do a quota management on my harddrive
[10:08] <sbalneav> You'd need to install the quota package, at a minumum
[10:09] <sbalneav> Currently, I don't think there's a gui tool for quota management, do you'd have to do some command line magic )
[10:10] <sbalneav> Quota's work best when you've got your /home folder on a separate drive.
[10:11] <sbalneav> hlabs: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialQuotas.html seems to have a good tutorial.
[10:11] <hlabs> thanks for the help man
[10:15] <cbx33> ping ogra
[10:15] <sbalneav> afternoon cbx33
[10:15] <cbx33> hi sbalneav
[10:15] <cbx33> maybe yo'll know :p
[10:15] <cbx33> ps --no-headers -o pid,cmd:60,%mem,%cpu,nice -aU pete
[10:15] <cbx33> I have two users logged into a machine
[10:16] <cbx33> running X sessions
[10:16] <cbx33> I run that command
[10:16] <cbx33> and the nagain with the second username
[10:16] <cbx33> but I get some common processes, with the same pid?
[10:16] <cbx33> can anyone explain this?
[10:17] <sbalneav> hmm, need to look at the command line args.
[10:17] <sbalneav> gimee a couple of secs
[10:17] <cbx33> ok
[10:18] <cbx33> hm..... oh
[10:18] <cbx33> ahhhh
[10:18] <cbx33> I wonder....I think I know
[10:18] <cbx33> nm sbalneav
[10:18] <sbalneav> I'm wondering if you're getting some common stuff from the -a
[10:18] <cbx33> hhm
[10:18] <cbx33> actually
[10:19] <cbx33> ok I'll take that out
[10:19] <sbalneav> -a includes process group leaders, so you might get a parent or two in there.
[10:19] <cbx33> yeh
[10:19] <sbalneav> everyone spawns from the same sshd
[10:19] <sbalneav> so you'd get that in both places.
[10:19] <cbx33> yes
[10:19] <cbx33> thank you
[10:19] <cbx33> I missed that
[10:19] <cbx33> I'm working from someone elses code
[10:20] <sbalneav> Now I have a question for you!
[10:20] <cbx33> ok shoot
[10:20] <sbalneav> Know of any problems with ltsp in edgy?  My terminal can't find the nfs server.
[10:20] <cbx33> hmmm
[10:20] <cbx33> still?
[10:20] <sbalneav> showmount -e shows I've got /opt/ltsp exported
[10:20] <sbalneav> ah, was this a known bug?
[10:20] <cbx33> are you getting the problem where it just logs you out again?
[10:21] <sbalneav> no, not that, it can't even boot.
[10:21] <cbx33> oh
[10:21] <cbx33> updated sshkeys?
[10:21] <sbalneav> I'm not even AT that point yet :)
[10:21] <cbx33> :S
[10:21] <sbalneav> just after kernel load.  I'm still in the initramfs
[10:21] <cbx33> you mean the actualy server can't boot?
[10:21] <cbx33> or clients?
[10:22] <sbalneav> The server's fine.  It's the client that wont boot
[10:22] <cbx33> what is the error, does it say?
[10:22] <sbalneav> just hangs at "waiting for root"
[10:22] <cbx33> hmmm
[10:22] <cbx33> have you tried mounting the nfs root from another machine?
[10:23] <sbalneav> meh, I'll get it.  Heck, if I can't get this going, I'll resign my job as LTSP developer :)
[10:23] <cbx33> heh
[10:23] <cbx33> sbalneav, I don't know of any problems
[10:23] <cbx33> but rememebr 2 heads can be better than one
[10:23] <cbx33> just shout if you still can't get it working
[10:23] <cbx33> I'm not an expert but I can try
[10:24] <sbalneav> I think it's just not realizing who's it's NFS server.  I just have to poke through the initramfs scripts a bit.
[10:24] <sbalneav> just wanted to save myself the trouble if this was a known issue :)
[10:24] <cbx33> is the DHCP serving the correct values?
[10:24] <cbx33> sbalneav, did you check LP?
[10:24] <sbalneav> Not yet.
[10:31] <sbalneav> aahhhh
[10:31] <sbalneav> seems to be a problem with ltsp-update-kernels
[10:31] <cbx33> ahhhhh
[10:31] <cbx33> :(
[10:32] <sbalneav> hm
[10:33] <sbalneav> maybe not
[10:34] <cbx33> :(
[10:37] <sbalneav> ogra: pingity pong
[11:01] <sbalneav> brb, switching to dapper box.
[11:04] <cbx33> ping ogra it is done :p
[11:04] <cbx33> all apart from VNC
[11:52] <shaykid> Hi,  Im having a problem installing Edubuntu, can u answer a question ?
[11:53] <pygi> shaykid, shoot
[11:53] <shaykid> Hi,  Im having a problem installing Edubuntu (during LTSP chroot install), can any one answer a question ?
[11:54] <pygi> shaykid, patience pls, patience
[11:54] <pygi> all sleep now :)
[11:54] <shaykid> hehe
[11:54] <shaykid> ok
[11:54] <pygi> so shoot, what's the problem
[11:54] <shaykid>
[11:54] <shaykid> Ive installed Edubuntu 6.06 on an amd64 machine sucessfully.
[11:54] <shaykid>
[11:54] <shaykid> Im trying to install edubuntu 6.06 1 on compaq cpu:Intel 2.4 ram:1G machind and encountering a starnge problem
[11:54] <shaykid> The CD pass the MD5 test and all.
[11:54] <shaykid>
[11:54] <shaykid> The instalation hangs on when Building LTSP chroot is on 50%
[11:54] <shaykid> all i get is a black screen with 2 white squares (ascii) on the screen.
[11:54] <shaykid> This happens every time I try to install.
[11:54] <shaykid>
[11:54] <shaykid> (before it hangs up the console screen shows:
[11:54] <shaykid>
[11:54] <shaykid> warning: Fake start-stop-deamon called, doing nothing
[11:54] <shaykid> setting up ltsp-server (0.87)
[11:54] <shaykid>
[11:54] <shaykid> and in the package installation console
[11:54] <shaykid> after all the package installation and configure and all
[11:55] <shaykid> it says:
[11:55] <shaykid> setting up xserver-xorg
[11:55] <shaykid> and then it hangs up
[11:55] <shaykid> all i get is a black screen with 2 white squares (ascii) on the screen.
[11:58] <shaykid> i've shooted to much bullets ?
[11:59] <sbalneav> The ltsp chroot install may hang for a few minutes.  Just let it sit for a bit and it should come back.
[11:59] <sbalneav> I've seen this behaviour a couple of times.
[11:59] <shaykid> u say simply wait ..
[11:59] <shaykid> 10 minutes or so ?
[12:00] <sbalneav> Yes, should be.
[12:00] <shaykid> can it be an xorg - driver  problem ?
[12:00] <sbalneav> No, it's trying to do some dns activity, and within the chroot environment, this sometimes fails.
[12:02] <shaykid> OK, so u say, simply wait, let it  try etc.. for 10 mins or more ?, (btw -  all screen is disapeared, all is left is black screen with 2 white sqaures... )
[12:03] <sbalneav> can you press <ctrl><alt><f2> and get a "Press enter to activate this console" message?
[12:04] <shaykid> nop
[12:04] <hlabs> is there any way that the admin can restrict the user from storing their files locally
[12:04] <shaykid> all is stuck
[12:04] <sbalneav> Hmm, then something's hung.
[12:04] <shaykid> yep., any idea ?
[12:04] <sbalneav> hlabs: Well, that's kind of hard on a thin client environment :)
[12:05] <sbalneav> shaykid: I think one of the installation options you can pick at boot is not to configure the X server.  What kind of display card do you have in the machine?
[12:06] <sbalneav> hlabs: Perhaps it would be better to describe what the problem is that you're trying to solve by not letting people save.
[12:09] <shaykid> its a compaq evo d310
[12:09] <shaykid> Graphics Controller
[12:09] <shaykid> Type
[12:09] <shaykid>      AGP 4x - integrated
[12:09] <shaykid> Graphics Processor / Vendor
[12:09] <shaykid>      Intel 845G
[12:09] <shaykid> Video Memory
[12:09] <shaykid>      Shared video memory (UMA)
[12:09] <shaykid> details: http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/specs.aspx?itemId=348332&stext=
[12:09] <sbalneav> can you boot a regular Ubuntu live cd on it?
[12:10] <sbalneav> A simple solution might be to use the live cd installer to install Ubuntu, then once it's installed, you can use the package manager to install the "edubuntu-desktop" package.  This will turn your machine into an edubuntu server
[12:11] <shaykid> good idea
[12:11] <shaykid> I will rty


[07:34] <dholbach> good morning
[09:06] <sladen> morning people
[09:08] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha sladen
[09:08] <sladen> hola MrChrisDruif
[09:09] <MrChrisDruif> Como esta sladen ?
[09:10] <MrChrisDruif> How are you sladen ?
[09:11] <nava> Hi all
[09:11] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha nava
[09:11] <nava> i sent a mock up last night, did you see it?
[09:12] <sladen> MrChrisDruif: enjoying the view from Millbank this morning.  A bit smoggy, but good none-the-less
[09:12] <sladen> nava: what was the mockup of?
[09:13] <nava> about full screen in ubuntu
[09:13] <nava> when click on maximized button on window
[09:13] <MrChrisDruif> I've not seen a mock up, but then again does the design team have a mailing list?
[09:14] <nava> yes, i sent for mailing list
[09:15] <nava> sladen :  i have an idea to let user to choose between full screen with luncher or without
[09:17] <sladen> nava: didn't see it;  what Real Name should I look for on the email?
[09:17] <nava> updated: mock up
[09:18] <nava> sent from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:18] <sladen> nava: to which exact email list?
[09:18] <nava> unity-design
[09:24] <nava> sladen : did u find it ?
[09:25] <AlanBell> nava: I don't see it either
[09:26] <nava> subject : updated mock up
[09:26] <nava> sent from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:27] <AlanBell> https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/date.html
[09:28] <nava> no prblem if cant find it (i sent it last night about 11.30 UTC)
[09:28] <nava> i can explain it here
[09:31] <nava> I have an idea to give user to choose full-screen with luncher or without it, even i checked mac OSX to check how to do it, i think we can let user to choose between full screen with luncher or with out it very simply like when user LEFT click with mouse on maximized button on window it go full screen with luncher OR when user middle click on maximized button it go full screen without luncher (like 11.10)
[09:39] <MrChrisDruif> This is the Ubuntu Design launchpad group/mailing-list? https://launchpad.net/~unity-design
[09:44] <nava><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:59] <cprofitt> hello all
[13:59] <cprofitt> anyone know if we have an art related part of the global jam?
[15:50] <gotwig> hey there
[15:50] <gotwig> eh I need an icon design for my lens, could someone help me?
[15:51] <gotwig> with it you are able to search for recips in the internet
[15:51] <gotwig> you can directly see the like's the level, etc. it should be some way of monochrome, so like the other icons for lenses
[15:51] <cprofitt> hey jono
[15:52] <jono> hey cprofitt
[15:52] <gotwig> JohnLea: hey
[15:58] <JohnLea> gotwig; hyia
[15:58] <cprofitt> hiya JohnLea
[15:59] <gotwig> has anyone intresst in helping me with an icon :X?
[15:59] <gotwig> doing an icon, or someone can also do it for me.. on base of an other. A spoon I think would be good (for cooking lens )
[16:00] <cprofitt> gotwig: I am trying to get an Art Jam going
[16:00] <cprofitt> perhaps we can get an icon for you then
[16:00] <cprofitt> http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/jam-jam-ubuntu-global-jam-art-jam/
[16:02] <gotwig> cprofitt: :-)
[16:03] <gotwig> cprofitt: still have to work on functionality. You know its my first realy productive python app :D
[16:32] <etneg_> hey kenvandine
[16:33] <etneg_> kenvandine: i updated another concept, its on the wiki
[16:33] <etneg_> letme know what you think
[16:36] <kenvandine> hey etneg_
[16:36] <kenvandine> cool, i'll look in a bit
[16:53] <cprofitt> etneg_: which wiki?
[17:09] <etneg_> kenvandine: sweet
[17:10] <etneg_> cprofitt: https://live.gnome.org/Gwibber/LogoConcepts
[17:10] <cprofitt> ooh... very nice etneg_
[17:10] <etneg_> oh its not just mine
[17:10] <etneg_> it;s concepts fro others too
[17:10] <etneg_> heh
[17:10] <etneg_> kenvandine put up the wiki
[17:10] <cprofitt> concept 7 has a clean look
[17:11] <etneg_> that isnt mine, no idea who that belongs to
[17:11] <cprofitt> I like concept 1, but not sure of the 'brownish' color... and it is a bit complex
[17:11] <cprofitt> etneg_: which one isyours?
[17:11] <etneg_> 1, 2, 6, 9
[17:12] <etneg_> 2 is scrapped
[17:12] <cprofitt> yeah... two is not one I would choose...
[17:12] <kenvandine> i like 1, 6 and 7
[17:12] <cprofitt> I like 1, but the brownish red color on the circle G I am not sure of
[17:13] <etneg_> there's only orange there
[17:13] <etneg_> well orange+ yellow
[17:13] <cprofitt> perhaps it is the color profile of my lame lcd on this Lenovo
[17:13] <etneg_> and to give it  bit more glossy effect i added another grapevine red somewhere there
[17:14] <cprofitt> kenvandine: yeah, 7 is very clean looking
[17:16] <etneg_> fromthe votes i took for my stuff, lot of them went with 6 and 9
[17:16] <etneg_> 1 was considered okayish, but complex
[17:18] <cprofitt> +1
[17:18] <etneg_> though people liked the icon version of 1 since i removed some elements
[17:19] <etneg_> but thats not what kenvandine  wants, he wants the faces there
[17:21] <kenvandine> i do like the faces :)
[17:21] <etneg_> ye so:D
[17:22] <etneg_> it isnt as complex as you think though
[17:22] <etneg_> it's got a lot of elements, but little effects
[17:22] <etneg_> you could have two elements and 20 effects on it and that would be consideered complex if you ask me
[17:23]  * cprofitt nods
[17:23] <cprofitt> I agree with that
[17:23] <etneg_> :D
[17:25] <cprofitt> I always struggle when doing art...
[17:26] <cprofitt> then again with FOSS tools part of that is just not being familiar with the tools
[17:26] <cprofitt> I used Corel Photo Paint / Draw for years and years and years
[17:26] <etneg_> i havent touched that in a long long time
[17:27] <etneg_> i do work with photoshop now and then but not for logo stuff, vectors clearly wins here
[17:27]  * cprofitt nods
[17:27] <cprofitt> I never used photoshop
[17:27] <cprofitt> was always too expensive
[17:27] <cprofitt> I use Gimp and Inkscape now
[17:27] <cprofitt> but not quite as proficient with them as with Corel tools
[17:27] <etneg_> inkscape is nice but it's got some catching up to do
[17:28] <cprofitt> yep
[17:28] <cprofitt> I would pay if Corel put out their tools for Linux
[17:28] <etneg_> i call it the power of blur, with blurs inkscape is nice to get all the realism you want
[17:28] <etneg_> but that is an effect
[17:28] <etneg_> heh
[17:29] <etneg_> ive got corel sketch pad or smething, came with the wacom
[17:29] <etneg_> never used it
[17:30] <cprofitt> so you guys going to take part in the Ubuntu Global Jam and submit some art during the jam?
[17:30] <cprofitt> Would be great to have some folks work on some web banners, fliers and posters for 12.04
[17:30] <etneg_> i have no idea
[17:30] <etneg_> never even heard of it
[17:30] <cprofitt> http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/jam-jam-ubuntu-global-jam-art-jam/
[17:30] <etneg_> my second projec with ubuntu is kenvandine's stuff
[17:31] <etneg_> thatas about it
[17:31] <etneg_> heh
[17:31] <cprofitt> the global jam is typically seen as technical, but I think art is just as much a part of the Ubuntu Community
[17:31] <cprofitt> and very important for moving the project forward
[17:31] <cprofitt> I am trying to get some students from the local university to partake too
[17:32] <cprofitt> hey, ara
[17:32] <ara> hey cprofitt
[17:32] <cprofitt> etneg_: I would love to see you cut loose on some stuff for 12.04 - beyond icons
[17:32] <etneg_> oh ok cool
[17:32] <etneg_> like wallpapers?
[17:33] <cprofitt> the design you had in 1 on the wiki would be really cool for some web banner, stuff or one some fliers for 12.04
[17:33] <cprofitt> wallpapers, fliers, posters, web banners
[17:33] <etneg_> just in vectors?
[17:33] <etneg_> sure hwy not
[17:33] <cprofitt> I would work in vectors... but the web stuff may need to be converted to .png or .jpg
[17:33] <cprofitt> fliers would likely stay vectors
[17:34] <cprofitt> take a look at this site
[17:34] <cprofitt> http://spreadubuntu.org/en/node/529
[17:34] <cprofitt> they have lots of community submissions
[17:34] <etneg_> yeh it'll exported to pngs  or jpegs
[17:35] <cprofitt> this was an old poster that I really liked
[17:35] <cprofitt> http://bligoo.com/media/users/0/47/images/ubuntu_highway_by_gasteropod.jpg
[17:35] <cprofitt> but the colors and feel no longer really match the current Ubuntu theme
[17:35] <etneg_> oo posters
[17:36] <etneg_> and that looks like post production was done in some raster app like gimp or something
[17:36] <cprofitt> yeah
[17:36] <etneg_> which is why i asked, fully vector or hacked up? :P
[17:36] <cprofitt> I took the source from that and made a large poster for events my loco goes too
[17:36] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/20110324
[17:36] <cprofitt> that was likely converted -- the image I gave you
[17:36] <etneg_> ah ok
[17:37] <cprofitt> the source was vector which allowed me to blow it up for that poster in the events link
[17:37] <etneg_> ok if you're looking at posters and sutff i'll pass for the time being though
[17:38] <etneg_> i could do it in vectors but it's time consuming and the results are okayish unless i spend 100hrs on it trying to capture realism
[17:38] <cprofitt> anything is great
[17:38] <etneg_> i was htinking of doing wallpapers for ubuntu
[17:38] <etneg_> but im jsut sticking to logos for now, since ive gotten into the 3d bandwagon and it'llbe a month ebfore i can do anything realistic
[17:39] <etneg_> and the results from 3d are  far far better than 2d vectors
[17:39] <cprofitt> anything at all helps us... I am just happy to get artists involved
[17:39] <etneg_> sure
[17:39] <etneg_> i'll be around:D
[17:40] <cprofitt> would you do a logo for New York?
[17:40] <etneg_> sure why not
[17:40]  * etneg_ is from ny
[17:40] <cprofitt> Be crazy and surprise me dude
[17:40] <etneg_> what doyou need?
[17:40] <cprofitt> two things if possible
[17:41] <cprofitt> something to replace this
[17:41] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=newyorkteamlogo3.png
[17:41] <cprofitt> sorry for the long link
[17:41] <cprofitt> and I would love a header for a web page...
[17:41] <etneg_> hehwhat is that
[17:41] <etneg_> map ofny ?
[17:42] <etneg_> ooh i see it
[17:42] <etneg_> ubuntu + map of ny
[17:42] <cprofitt> that was representative of NY -- niagra falls to statue of liberty or something
[17:42] <cprofitt> yep, that version is really small
[17:42] <etneg_> you need a logo then?
[17:42] <cprofitt> the logo has NY LOCO and the ubuntu circile + state map
[17:43] <cprofitt> but I would be willing to see that replaced by other ideas
[17:43] <etneg_> i can work on fresh ideas if you like
[17:43] <cprofitt> yeah... I would really like that
[17:43] <etneg_> whats the  context you need in it? NY LOCO, anything else?
[17:43] <cprofitt> that logo has been there for 5-6 years
[17:44] <cprofitt> just the NY and LOO
[17:44] <cprofitt> Loco
[17:44] <etneg_> you're a fan of sketch brush work?
[17:44] <cprofitt> though if the graphic really is recognizable as NY then the words could be left out
[17:44] <etneg_> the NY looks like a sketch brush
[17:44] <etneg_> and you've used the same sketching style in the poster as well
[17:44] <cprofitt> I have no preference as far as that goes
[17:45] <cprofitt> neither image was mine
[17:45] <etneg_> oh k
[17:45] <cprofitt> I like glassy as well
[17:45] <etneg_> k cool
[17:45] <etneg_> web2.0
[17:45] <cprofitt> this is some of my work
[17:45] <cprofitt> http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/lugor-logo-part-5/
[17:46] <etneg_> while the gloss looks right
[17:46] <etneg_> that trace bitmap on that image looks pretty messed up and is an awful lot for a logo if you ask me
[17:46] <cprofitt> those were some of the first efforts with GIMP
[17:47] <cprofitt> so they are far from perfect
[17:47] <etneg_> oh its all in gimp/
[17:47] <etneg_> ?
[17:47] <cprofitt> yeah
[17:47] <cprofitt> all gimp
[17:47] <etneg_> oh ok
[17:47] <cprofitt> and it was 100% targeted for a web page banner
[17:47] <etneg_> ah ye for a banner it'll fit
[17:48] <etneg_> for a logo too much going on there with the arhictecture
[17:48] <cprofitt> http://lugor.org/
[17:48] <cprofitt> that is what ended up being used when it was done
[17:48] <etneg_> did you try printing that?
[17:49] <cprofitt> I did. I used it on some 8.5x11" posters we use at showed
[17:49] <cprofitt> with Photo Glossy paper it looks pretty good
[17:49] <etneg_> not bad
[17:49] <etneg_> oh you used a normal printer to print it out
[17:49] <etneg_> not offset ?
[17:50] <cprofitt> you can kind of see the poster in this picture
[17:50] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/20110505
[17:50] <cprofitt> an inkjet
[17:50] <etneg_> ok
[17:50] <cprofitt> this one too
[17:50] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/20110423
[17:50] <cprofitt> yeah... I am by no means a professional artist
[17:50] <cprofitt> I need a lot of help in that department
[17:51] <etneg_> imno pro either but i cna design your logo!
[17:51] <cprofitt> I have just enough skills to cover for a little while
[17:51] <cprofitt> awesome dude... that would rock
[17:51] <cprofitt> you can email me at any time at cprofitt at ubuntu dot com
[17:51] <etneg_> alright
[17:51] <etneg_> i'll put together something in abit
[17:53] <etneg_> just gimme feedback via mail or irc and i'll keep going at it:P
[17:56] <cprofitt> sounds great etneg_
[17:56] <cprofitt> I am stoked!!
[17:56]  * etneg_ heads to the drawing board
[17:59] <cprofitt> I nominate etneg_, the artist, for a community trophy!!


[08:58] <pavlushka> greetings every one!
[09:19] <Kilos> hi pavlushka and others
[09:32] <pavlushka> and he is back :)
[09:33] <pavlushka> hello Kilos !
[09:33] <Kilos> hehe
[09:33] <pavlushka> bbl, gotta run, but lucky encounter :)
[09:34] <Kilos> ok
[10:41] <zaki> hello
[10:41] <zaki> hi Kilos pavlushka
[10:46] <zaki> hello again
[11:08] <Kilos> hi zaki
[11:08] <Kilos> im getting ready for bed already
[11:09] <Kilos> 9.08 pm already
[11:09] <Kilos> sigh
[11:47] <pavlushka> Hello Nahiyan
[11:47] <pavlushka> and Kilos !
[12:12] <Kilos> ok night guys, battling to sync with this timezone
[12:12] <Kilos> see you tomorrow if circumstances allow
[12:51] <Nahiyan> hello
[14:58] <zaki> hello Nahiyan
[16:19] <pavlushka> Hello everyone!
[18:15] <zaki> hello
[18:15] <zaki> hi pavlushka
[18:40] <zaki> wb tanvir


[04:44] <joejaxx> cjwatson: do you know what would cause this error? "no installable kernel found in the apt sources"? the kernel images are in the cd pool and in Packages


[03:29] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:51] <marcoagpinto> heya
[05:21] <arg_> hi.
[05:23] <arg_> so..next ubuntu will feature a faceID to unlock the computer? ;]
[05:24] <Maik> lol... no
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: could you convert bug #1982688 to a wishlist please?
[14:04] <arg_> heya.
[14:05] <arg_> id say ubuntu needs a bigger better stronger sexappeal. lol.
[14:06] <arg_> they should offer more linux laptops out of the box, but people 'd still prefer windows or macs.
[14:06] <arg_> especially macbooks are so popular nowdays.
[14:18] <leftyfb> arg_: "ubuntu" doesn't sell laptops.
[14:20] <ravage> and the list of devices certified for Ubuntu can be found here: https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops
[15:39] <Eickmeyer> FYI, I know of at least one company that approached with the idea of selling an ubuntu branded laptop, and it was met with the idea that it would offend the existing OEMs such as Dell that you actually can buy a laptop pre-loaded with Ubuntu from.
[16:33] <tomreyn> Maybe a little "Ubuntu inside" sticker with an Ubuntu logo as a hologram, well-noticably positioned below the keyboard, would make a great compromise there.
[16:34] <tomreyn> And this could become a (license bound) standard, too, requiring OEMs to sell laptops with certain features embedded and pre-activated.
[16:51] <hggdh> bug 1982688 is now WISHLIST
[17:40] <arg_> yeah maybe.
[17:40] <arg_> but linux phones are comming...sp rejoice friends ;]
[17:40] <arg_> librem/pine64
[17:41] <arg_> age of the smartphones anyway, ppl just leave their computer stacking up dust.
[17:41] <daftykins> yeah it'd be great to get an open platform phone with no apps, but i can open the terminal and show off how cool i am to be root!
[17:41] <daftykins> ;D
[17:43] <arg_> deal with it. some android apps are compatible. Google's android is getting the dictator way.
[17:43] <daftykins> first off, don't speak to people like that - second, the sarcasm was implied
[17:44] <arg_> but i'd keep an android or an iphone in the other pocket, and a root linux in the pocket of my butt ;] backdooring the truth like a king.
[17:44] <arg_> mind off.
[17:50] <leftyfb> backdooring the truth?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: thank you!


[16:52] <phillw> Hello good people, your worst nightmare is here again with a question :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/531678 still in saucy the OP asks if the latest version of inkscape has hit the saucy repos.
[16:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 531678 in Inkscape "Unable to select medium-weight fonts - forced to select bold weight instead" [Medium,Fix committed]


[07:26] <CIA-10> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5118 trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Import icu rather than PyICU, preferred as of python-pyicu 1.0.
[14:18] <CIA-10> partman-basicfilesystems: cjwatson * r914 ubuntu/ (commit.d/format_swap debian/changelog): Disable existing swap partitions before formatting them (LP: #905628).
[14:21] <hedel> Hi! I want install ubuntu in my laptop but come with vista and have 2 partitions (C: and the recovery partition) how I must do the partitions for maintain win + ubuntu?
[14:25] <cjwatson> the automatic resize-Windows option should work fine in that situation
[14:31] <hedel> cjwatson : sorry, I'm new with ubuntu, this option is during the ubuntu install process?
[14:32] <cjwatson> yes
[14:33] <cjwatson> labelled something like "Install Ubuntu 11.10 alongside Windows" in recent versions
[14:35] <hedel> ok, cjwatson thanks
[16:40] <CIA-10> partman-btrfs: cjwatson * r60 ubuntu/ (76 files in 4 dirs): merge from Debian 7
[16:42] <CIA-10> partman-btrfs: cjwatson * r61 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 7ubuntu1
[17:13] <CIA-10> cdebconf: cjwatson * r2343 ubuntu/ (52 files in 15 dirs): merge from Debian 0.158
[17:55] <CIA-10> cdebconf: cjwatson * r2344 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog src/modules/frontend/gtk/cdebconf_gtk.c): Build cleanly with glib >= 2.31.
[17:59] <CIA-10> cdebconf: cjwatson * r2345 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.158ubuntu1
[17:59] <CIA-10> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5119 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[17:59] <CIA-10> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: partman-basicfilesystems
[17:59] <CIA-10> ubiquity: 71ubuntu3, partman-btrfs 7ubuntu1.
[18:06] <CIA-10> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5120 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.9.10


[17:38] <dobey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9562078/ <- somehow i don't think this is what the end of the log is supposed to look like :-/
[19:24] <dobey> hmmmmmm
[22:10] <cgoldberg> RIP robotfuel :(
[22:25] <dobey> indeed :(


[09:37] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, all! :-D
[18:19] <Brunell> hi all, I wonder if you can help me at all with the initial setup of ubuntu one pleaase, I have created an account and now I have to start the sync
[18:19] <chaselivingston> Brunell: Hi, could you submit the form at http://one.ubuntu.com/support/contact  so we can get some more information from you?
[18:19] <Brunell> ok will do
[18:22] <Brunell> ok form submitted
[18:38] <Brunell> hi can I reply straight from my email  or do I have to submit another form?
[18:39] <chaselivingston> Brunell: you can reply directly to the email
[18:39] <Brunell> thx