[16:34] <IdleOne> what is alexbst chief complaint in #ubuntu? I think I missed the beginning of his rant
[20:32] <k1l> @mark #ubuntu vanillah trolling with bsd and gentoo remarks
[21:35] <genii> Hm.


[11:58] <kims> guys?
[11:58] <ObrienDave> yes?
[12:00] <kims> what version of xubuntu you're using?
[12:00] <kims> sorry bad english
[12:00] <ObrienDave> 14.04.1
[12:01] <ObrienDave> better english than most :)
[12:02] <kims> i am using that version too :)
[12:02] <kims> hmm... :/
[12:02] <kims> its quiet here..
[12:03] <ObrienDave> well, general chatter is in #xubuntu-offtopic
[12:04] <cfhowlett> quiet = systems are working!
[12:05] <kims> hehe, i am new user ... sorry
[12:09] <ObrienDave> it's ok, cfhowlett has to get snarky once in a while ;P
[12:10] <kims> hahaha, so... dave what are you doing now?
[12:10] <kims> :D
[12:10] <ObrienDave> lurking
[12:14] <kims> on me?
[13:32] <sidi>  Is there anyone here who is new to Linux and Xfce and would have 10 spare minutes to give some feedback on the design of the session logout dialog?
[13:41] <elfy> sidi: if you get no takers - you can have some from someone who's been about for a while ;)
[13:43] <sidi> elfy, im setting up a google forms survey :-)
[13:43] <sidi> you can take it once it's done
[13:43] <elfy> okey doke :)
[13:43] <sidi> and i strongly encourage advertising it so we can get some insights on that session logout UI
[13:44] <elfy> sidi: best place to ask is in -devel for that - can get it on the social sites perhaps
[13:44] <sidi> elfy, will talk to Simon and Pasi :-)
[14:12] <hyper_ch> hi there
[14:30] <Airbander> Hi guys i have a problem when i want copy a big file from 200Mo on USB flash memory he just stop copying in 90%
[14:32] <ObrienDave> is the USB empty? writing a new file or overwriting an existing file?
[14:46] <holstein> Airbander: those go bad, as well..
[14:46] <Airbander> sorry i wasnt here
[14:47] <Airbander> yes the USB empty
[14:47] <holstein> i would get another USB stick, and try writing that file to it.. try writing another file to the same stick as well..
[14:47] <Airbander> i used 4 type of USB
[14:47] <ObrienDave> ok, that answers both of my questions
[14:48] <Airbander> ok
[14:48] <holstein> Airbander: you used 4 types of USB ? you mean, for different USB sticks "act" the same ?
[14:48] <Airbander> yep
[14:49] <Airbander> the same when i copy the from the usb to my laptop the file work fine
[14:49] <holstein> Airbander: does *any* file copy to the USB ?
[14:49] <ObrienDave> sounds like a bad file to begin with
[14:49] <Hedgework> Airbander: HOW are you trying to copy?  Via some gui, or using cp or rsync?
[14:49] <holstein> yeah.. i think the file is the issue, as well ^
[14:49] <Airbander> i didnt copy the same file over and over
[14:49] <holstein> there is a gui for rsync .. grsync
[14:49] <Airbander> Hedgework i tryed from GUI and terminal
[14:49] <Airbander> copy and paste
[14:50] <Hedgework> but in terminal you used 'cp'?  Did it give you an error when it stopped?
[14:50] <Airbander> mv file.mkv /media/my user name/usbname
[14:50] <Airbander> in terminal i used mv
[14:50] <Airbander> cp i forget this one
[14:50] <holstein> i wouldnt "mv" it.. since you are having issues
[14:51] <ObrienDave> doing so could lose the original
[14:51] <Hedgework> Airbander: Okay, so if you like I can take you through some debugging steps, but I'm at work right now so we may have long pauses where I disappear to deal with work.
[14:51] <holstein> i would go back to a backup copy of the file, and try cp and other commands to copy from the terminal, and look for and share errors
[14:51] <Airbander> thanks Hedgework take your time
[14:52] <Hedgework> ObrienDave: In theory, but what it's *supposed* to do by default (unless you use command line options to change its behavior) is copy-then-delete.
[14:52] <ObrienDave> true
[14:52] <Airbander> i will try and give again
[14:52] <Airbander> a second plz
[14:52] <ObrienDave> too tired to type out a 500 letter explanation ;P
[14:53] <Airbander> lol
[14:53] <ObrienDave> makes my 4 typing fingers tired and sore ;P
[14:53] <Hedgework> Airbander: First off, what version of xubuntu are you on, how big is the file in question, what filesystem is on the USB stick (if you know...if not, we'll check), how big is the USB stick and how much free space does it have?
[14:53] <Hedgework> ObrienDave: Meh, I need to move faster, I'm cold. :P
[14:53] <Hedgework> We got our first snow of the season today.
[14:54] <Airbander> hedgework
[14:54] <Hedgework> AFTER I mocked my cow-orkers about how I'd be in New Orleans when the snow starts sunday :P
[14:54] <Airbander> the file i want copy 686.8 MB
[14:54] <Airbander> on 4Go USB drive
[14:54] <Hedgework> "Go"?  Do you mean GB?  or maybe GiB?
[14:55] <ObrienDave> Hedgework, karma will get you every time ;P
[14:55] <Hedgework> (not that the difference between GB or GiB is likely to be a deciding factor in this case)
[14:55] <Hedgework> ObrienDave: apparently
[14:55] <Airbander> 4096Mo
[14:55] <Hedgework> ObrienDave: I'm now being blamed for the snow :P
[14:55] <ObrienDave> see?
[14:55] <Airbander> 4Go = 4096Mo this is what i meant
[14:56] <holstein> 4096Mb ?
[14:56] <Airbander> ya
[14:56] <Hedgework> Airbander: I'm seeing you consistently use "Go" and "Mo", which are not units I am familiar with.
[14:57] <Airbander> ah in frensh
[14:57] <holstein> its the little "o" in place of what we expect and see a "b" that is the question
[14:57] <Airbander> o in frensh sorry
[14:57] <Airbander> GiB
[14:57] <Airbander> it's b forget about o
[14:58] <holstein> regardless, there is plenty of room on the device.. try a terminal cp or other command, and share errors.. try using a backup copy of the file
[14:58] <Airbander> ok
[14:59] <Airbander> i'm using 14.04 xubuntu the last update
[15:00] <Airbander> usb " Kingston"
[15:00] <Hedgework> Airbander: Okay, so I got that the file is 686.8 MB, the drive is 4GB, but I did not see where you specified your version of xubuntu, the filesystem on the USB stick, or the amount of free space on the USB stick.
[15:00] <Hedgework> heh, beat me to it :)
[15:00] <Hedgework> brb, work...should be 5-10 min but I can read backscroll :)
[15:00] <Airbander> it's ok
[15:00] <Airbander> thanks any way
[15:03] <Airbander> brb
[15:10] <Hedgework> back
[15:43] <sidi> Airbander, sorry didnt read the whole backtrace but are you sure the *trash* on the USB device is empty?
[15:43] <sidi> Windows, Linux and OS X create trashes on USB devices, but they're not always visible by default.
[15:43] <Airbander> back
[15:43] <Hedgework> wb
[15:43] <Hedgework> sidi: yeah, I was about to have him run "du" to check for that and similar issues
[15:43] <Airbander> thanks how empty that trashes then ?
[15:44] <sidi> Hedgework, good idea
[15:44] <sidi> Airbander, empty the trash from Thunar as you would normally do. it will empty all trashes on all devices
[15:44] <Airbander> i used gparted on my USB
[15:44] <Airbander> ok
[15:44] <sidi> or you can remove a folder called ".Trash" or ".Trash-1000" at the base of the USB device
[15:44] <sidi> Airbander, it's very unlikely that this is the problem though, after having read more backlog
[15:44] <Airbander> ok guys
[15:44]  * sidi goes back to quiet.
[15:46] <Hedgework> Airbander: Assuming that the device is at /path/to/foo, you run "du -sh /path/to/foo" and it'll show you how much space is used
[15:46] <Airbander> guys i just used du on terminal is that bad ?
[15:46] <Hedgework> no
[15:46] <cfhowlett> Airbander, not bad.  it'll give you valuable info
[15:46] <Hedgework> that's what I intended :)
[15:47] <Airbander> thanks
[15:47] <Hedgework> Airbander: I'll always warn you if a command is potentially destructive, and/or if it needs to be run with sudo privs.
[15:47] <Airbander> yep
[15:47] <Hedgework> Airbander: though if you are ever unsure about a command someone tells you on IRC, you can do "man commandname" or sometimes "info commandname" to learn what it does before running it.
[15:48] <Airbander> ya Hedgework i need to remember that :D
[15:51] <Airbander> du -sh 1.3G
[15:52] <Hedgework> Okay, so only 1.3G of the disk is full, so it should have plenty of room. :)
[15:52] <Hedgework> That rules out one class of problems.
[15:52] <Airbander> i'm gonna format the disk
[15:53] <ObrienDave> fat32
[15:55] <Hedgework> Airbander: meh, if you want to, but we haven't determined that the format is at issue yet :)
[15:55] <Airbander> how ?
[15:55] <Airbander> ok i will chose fat32
[15:56] <Airbander> how Hedgework
[15:56] <Airbander> can i use ext4
[15:56] <Hedgework> Airbander: If you want to reformat, you can unmount the drive, and then, assuming it is /dev/sdb (MAKE SURE this is right or you could destroy data on your system), do "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1"...
[15:57] <Hedgework> Airbander: You can use ext4, but if you do then Windows systems will not be able to read the data on the drive.
[15:57] <Airbander> i dont use windows any more
[15:57] <Hedgework> (nor will some common embedded devices like a printer/scanner combo you want to talk to the drive)
[15:57] <Airbander> thanks for help guys
[15:57] <Hedgework> np
[15:57] <Hedgework> to reformat to ext4, just change mkfs.vfat amove to mkfs.ext4
[15:58] <Airbander> ok
[15:59] <Airbander> i'm using gparted to make it easy for me
[15:59] <Hedgework> that works, too :)
[15:59] <Airbander> excuse me
[15:59] <Airbander> i use prim or exten ?
[16:00] <Airbander> Extended or Primary " Partition
[16:01] <Hedgework> primary
[16:02] <Hedgework> extended partitions are just a hack for dealing with >4 partitions on old-style partition tables that don't handle that easily
[16:03] <Airbander> he give me an error
[16:03] <Airbander> i used ntfs
[16:03] <Airbander> and now it's good
[16:03] <Airbander> he copy very fast
[16:04] <Hedgework> ewww, NTFS :P
[16:04] <Airbander> ya man lol
[16:04] <Hedgework> (just a personal feeling...you aren't actually hurting anything)
[16:04] <Airbander> because i share movies with my friend
[16:04] <Airbander> friends*
[16:04] <Airbander> they use windows
[16:04] <Airbander> noooobs
[16:05] <Airbander> like i'm mastering Linux lol
[16:07] <GridCube> !ot | Airbander
[16:07] <Airbander> ok ubottu
[16:08] <Airbander> sorry GridCube what that mean "!ot"
[16:08] <GridCube> its a factoid call for ubottu
[16:08] <GridCube> !factoid
[16:08] <Airbander> ah lol
[16:08] <Airbander> very nice
[19:55] <Airbander> Hi guys how can i add rockdock on my desktop ?
[19:55] <Airbander> or like rockdoc*
[20:07] <soreau> Hi, I installed xubuntu on an efi device and it works but I have to manually select the device list to boot.. how can I set it to load grub efi by default? It doesn't appear in the efi / bios settings even though I enabled legacy support, I can only see xubuntu entry when I select the boot list
[20:10] <Airbander> sorry i can't help you but i think there is no one here right now
[20:10] <Airbander> ask on ubuntu it's the same thing OS
[20:16] <ali1234> soreau: that's odd, it should just work like any ubuntu flavour
[20:30] <soreau> ali1234: Well when I booted the live session I hadn't disabled secure boot and enable legacy yet.. could that have something to do with it?
[20:31] <ali1234> yes, absolutely
[20:31] <ali1234> maybe you can just run "grub-install" or whatever, and it will fix itself?
[20:31] <ali1234> i still don't have any UEFI to deal with
[21:03] <Meerkat> soreau, does the option you want have its own line?
[21:05] <Meerkat> actually, I cannot help. Looks like they have changed how grub works again. :(
[21:47] <bennypr0fane> hello, how can I check which wireless network connections are available? the network manager icon is missing from my panel (but I didn't remove it, it was never there)
[21:51] <bennypr0fane> btw this is 14.04
[22:45] <soreau> I can't seem to figure out how to move the panel to the bottom of the screen in 14.04
[22:51] <drc> Right Mouse click on panel, panel, Panel Prefs, unclick lock panel, click and holdon either end of the panel...drag to bottom, reclicj lock panel.
[22:53] <soreau> drc: thanks
[23:20] <octetcloud> how do I get rid of the magenta highlights? the settings>>Theme Configuration doesn't seem to control it for me, my highlight background there is the simple blue, AND I have it set to ON, but even after restart, it makes no difference
[23:21] <knome> octetcloud, try to set it to on, then off.


[07:31] <davidcalle> didrocks, hey
[07:31] <didrocks> hey davidcalle
[07:32] <davidcalle> didrocks, I see that the online Dash search bug has changed this morning, and that gdocs is part of it again, does it mean the changes need to be applied to the photos lens too?
[07:32] <didrocks> davidcalle: yeah, and wikipedia lenses and others
[07:32] <didrocks> davidcalle: I'm doing the changes :)
[07:32] <didrocks> davidcalle: you will be up for reviews?
[07:32] <davidcalle> Or is it because gdocs is in the Home Dash?
[07:32] <davidcalle> Oh ok
[07:32] <didrocks> davidcalle: you know how things go fast here ;)
[07:33] <davidcalle> didrocks, I can see that ;)
[07:33] <didrocks> davidcalle: I'm patching all the lenses we have in the repo
[07:33] <didrocks> davidcalle: will ping you for your lenses :)
[07:36] <davidcalle> didrocks, wiki lens is in extras, not sure how the extras precise -> quantal transition is going to happen (for oneiric -> precise, packages needed to be resubmitted). So this one can wait (lp:unity-lens-wikipedia is still for /usr, not /opt anyway).
[07:36] <didrocks> davidcalle: I've already fixed it, want it upstreaM?
[07:37] <didrocks> fixed and tested of course :)
[07:37] <davidcalle> didrocks, I'll port it back, thanks :)
[07:37] <didrocks> davidcalle: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity-lens-wikipedia/disable-online-search-support/+merge/126621
[07:42] <didrocks> davidcalle: is there any merger or are you going to merge by hand?
[07:43] <didrocks> for the wikipedia lens
[07:43] <davidcalle> didrocks, merged already
[07:43] <davidcalle> By hand
[07:43] <didrocks> davidcalle: excellent, thanks!
[08:53] <didrocks> davidcalle: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity-lens-photos/add-disabling-online-support/+merge/126631
[08:58] <davidcalle> didrocks, thanks, is it working well with on_lens_active? I'm afraid that the Unity signal is not very consistent and that a new search is not always triggered when the lens is opened.
[08:59] <didrocks> davidcalle: I have the other listener on the property change
[08:59] <didrocks> davidcalle: which is triggered
[08:59] <davidcalle> didrocks, oh right :)
[09:00] <didrocks> davidcalle: at worse, even if the signal is lost, the results are already there, so no additional online fetching
[09:00] <didrocks> davidcalle: and next search will clear the model
[09:00] <davidcalle> didrocks, indeed, that's why it doesn't bother me a lot, the lens is very data heavy, so there is always something relevant in it.
[09:01] <didrocks> indeed :)
[09:39] <didrocks> merci davidcalle :)
[09:40] <davidcalle> didrocks, de rien, I'll make it ready for a release in a few hours (I have another change I'd like to land).
[09:42] <didrocks> davidcalle: no hurry, libunity will only be uploaded next week
[09:42] <didrocks> and you need it :)
[09:44] <davidcalle> didrocks, oh, ok then. I thought we were on real final final freeze after friday. :)
[09:45] <didrocks> davidcalle: no, still a week to go!
[10:19] <tjaalton> I need someone who knows what compiz does when the screensaver starts (fadeout->blank), and what happens when it should wake up
[10:20] <tjaalton> since by setting the sleep timer to <60s I can't reproduce the hang (it doesn't fadeout at all, blanks right away)
[10:22] <didrocks> tjaalton: duflu and smspillaz are your men
[10:23] <tjaalton> both on silly timezones I guess?-)
[10:23] <tjaalton> or -zone
[10:23] <didrocks> yep :)
[10:23] <tjaalton> ok, I'll gather some more data for them then :)
[10:23] <didrocks> tjaalton: duflu joined
[10:24] <duflu> tjaalton: Yes I'm still here. And Sam is always here
[10:24] <tjaalton> hehe
[10:24] <tjaalton> duflu: ok so I'm working on the "/." -bug, able to reproduce it on tip-of-the-day git kernel
[10:24] <duflu> tjaalton: AFAIK, compiz does *nothing* in response to screensavers. It keeps rendering and hopes that the driver is smart enough to block in glXSwapBuffers
[10:25] <tjaalton> but not always, some sort of a race in there
[10:25] <tjaalton> ok
[10:25] <duflu> tjaalton: It's very different between drivers. fglrx and radeon have some (different) bugs there
[10:25] <tjaalton> ah
[10:25] <duflu> It would be nice if compiz went to sleep, I know
[10:26] <duflu> But it's not compiz' fault if glXSwapBuffers + sleep mode = hangs or crashes. Is it?
[10:27] <duflu> Or major memory leaks in one case :(
[10:27] <tjaalton> probably not, trying to understand this some more
[10:27] <tjaalton> as it looks like the hang doesn't occur if the screen blanks right away
[10:28] <tjaalton> which would match my experience with 'xset dpms force off' not triggering it either (but other bugs, if done too fast :)
[10:31] <tjaalton> there it went again, sixth cycle on the machine with fadeout
[10:32] <tjaalton> ok, guess I'll poke intel upstream next..
[10:32] <tjaalton> again
[10:35] <om26er> tjaalton, unrelated to the above conversation. the latest nvidia driver is causing issues with unity so is there a place for those bugs to be talked with nvidia?
[10:35] <om26er> bug 1057000
[10:36] <seb128> om26er, talk to tseliot
[10:37] <om26er> seb128, ok, i will. we should make sure that driver never lands in Ubuntu unless that bug is fixed
[10:37] <tjaalton> om26er: talk with tseliot, he has direct access there
[10:37] <tjaalton> ah seb128 was quicker :)
[10:38] <om26er> tjaalton, thanks
[10:49] <duflu> tjaalton: If there's a simple way for compiz to know the screens are all off (from GDK maybe?) then we probably should detect that and pause rendering. For so many reasons. Not just to work around several driver bugs.
[10:51] <tjaalton> duflu: hmm, ok..
[10:56] <tjaalton> sounds like a nice idea, not sure what would be the best way to trigger it
[10:57] <duflu> tjaalton: Xrandr looks possible
[10:57] <duflu> Not sure how though
[10:57] <tjaalton> yeah
[10:57] <duflu> tjaalton: We have critical bugs against fglrx and radeon that would fix too
[14:20] <Wilson2B> Hi all..
[14:22] <Wilson2B> Unity has really been giving me hell for the last two weeks.. Im now using 2D mode .  Unity  is having refresh problems all the time. The top App Menu disapears and the launcher on side blacks out. I can hover over those areas and see a menu.  Could I post the results for someone to give some advise ?
[14:28] <Wilson2B> hello?
[14:45] <Wilson2B> Wow... zzzz  Really?
[15:10] <Wilson2B> Unity has really been giving me hell for the last two weeks.. Im now using 2D mode .  Unity  is having refresh problems all the time. The top App Menu disapears and the launcher on side blacks out. I can hover over those areas and see a menu.  Could I post the results for someone to give some advise ?
[15:22] <Wilson2B> lets see if I can get an answer to a simple question.. Is there a way to configure the Unity Launcher to hide in 2D mode?
[16:14] <popey> Wilson2B, yup
[16:15] <popey> Wilson2B, sorry for the delay in replying, this isn't really a support channel, that's #ubuntu. but happy to help if I can
[17:49] <Wilson2B> popey: Thanks for the response. It would be nice to hide the launcher in 2D mode. the option is grayed out under MyUnity app since it's 2D.
[18:03] <popey> Wilson2B1, it's in the usual place, system settings -> appearance -> behaviour
[18:30] <snwh> can someone answer me the 32-bit vs 64-bit question for Ubuntu?
[18:30] <snwh> I've used both and don't particularly notice the difference -is using 64-bit beneficial
[20:22] <Wilson2B1> popey: Thanks
[20:23] <popey> no
[20:23] <popey> np
[20:23] <popey> :)
[21:29] <chad4> find it annoying Ubuntu can't filter internet connections based on application of origin.
[22:20] <Wilson2B> Unity has really been giving me hell for the last two weeks.. Im now using 2D mode .  Unity  is having refresh problems all the time. The top App Menu disapears and the launcher on side blacks out. I can hover over those areas and see a menu.  Could I post the results for someone to give some advise ?


[01:24] <hggdh> Unit193: I would like to have a brief chat on PM with you about Lubuntu
[06:22] <Unit193> hggdh: Alright, I'll get it sometime tomorrow though.


[05:09] <alexandros_c> I need some help please, I installed the scanner drivers for my Brother MFC-J425W ALL-in-One in lubuntu but simple scan does not see the scanner. However my other computer running xubuntu can see the scanner using simple scan. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:11] <phiscribe> missing some package is my guess alexandros_c
[05:12] <JohnDoe_71Rus> or udev rules
[05:13] <alexandros_c> I checked the missing to the best of my ability between the two systems and installed those that were missing but no luck :(
[05:14] <alexandros_c> JohnDoe_71Rus,  do you know where to locate the udev rules so that I can compare them between the two system?
[05:15] <phiscribe> sane-utils sane xsane worth a try.  are those installed on the xubuntu box?
[05:15] <JohnDoe_71Rus> alexandros_c: lsusb the same?
[05:16] <alexandros_c> phiscribe, already tried all of that but no luck
[05:16] <alexandros_c> no network
[05:16] <alexandros_c> not usb
[05:19] <phiscribe> does the xubuntu box have the brother scanner util, brscan3 or whatever its called\
[05:19] <alexandros_c> brscan4
[05:19] <phiscribe> and its on the lubuntu box also?
[05:19] <alexandros_c> yes
[05:20] <phiscribe> permisions?
[05:20] <alexandros_c> how to find out permissions in this case?
[05:20] <phiscribe> im not sure, just trying to help you brainstorm.
[05:21] <alexandros_c> phiscribe, appreciating the help may be you will come with something I overlook :)
[05:22] <phiscribe> is it 32 bit or 64 bit
[05:22] <alexandros_c> 64
[05:22] <alexandros_c> on both
[05:22] <phiscribe> do you have a usr/lib64 folder
[05:23] <alexandros_c> yip
[05:24] <phiscribe> i wonder of you could compare whats in that folder on the two machines, looking for scanner relavant stuff.  maybe something wants parts of that to be in /usr/lib instead.  just thinking out loud.
[05:24] <phiscribe> my lubuntu machines are all old 32 bit
[05:25] <lighta> ho guys, I'm searching how to permanently turn off screensaver on lxde
[05:25] <alexandros_c> that machine has a low end processor
[05:25] <phiscribe> alexandros_c, maybe here:  http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_scn.html#f00101
[05:33] <phiscribe> lighta, its always been a bit mysterious to me.  i have screensaver disabled but my power settings blank the screen after awhile.  i dont remember how  i turned it off.
[05:34] <lighta> ok I turn it off last time
[05:34] <lighta> but wasn't permanent
[05:34] <phiscribe> the lxde sight says its in an openbox autostart.sh file, but ive never seen it.
[05:34] <phiscribe> site
[05:35] <JohnDoe_71Rus> phiscribe: you сan use xfce4-power manager
[05:35] <lighta> also I'm trying to look wich one i'm using since I don't remenber installation but I think I'm on ubuntu with xfce, not lubuntu session, but you can try in /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[05:36] <phiscribe> ah yes.  ty JohnDoe_71Rus
[05:37] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://linuxreviews.org/quicktips/screenblanking/index.html.en
[05:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> section about DPMS
[05:41] <alexandros_c> phiscribe, should I make a soft or hard link?
[05:47] <alexandros_c> thanks phiscribe and JohnDoe_71Rus  that was the problem
[05:48] <alexandros_c> you believe that I have been search for weeks to find a solution! but it only took you'll a few minutes
[05:49] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i belive to you
[05:50] <alexandros_c> so their is a bug in lubuntu?
[05:50] <alexandros_c> *there
[05:50] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i find it then connect TV instead monitor
[05:51] <JohnDoe_71Rus> not bug. 2 technology
[05:52] <alexandros_c> good night all o/
[06:03] <JohnDoe_71Rus> morning :)
[12:34] <lantizia> OK so I installed 13.04 in a VM... and I'm still thinking... *meh*
[12:36] <lantizia> *meh* because there is still things like abiword/gnumeric when libreoffice clearly wins out... *meh* because theres is no pulseaudio (and mainly I cry about this because on gnome/unity it has really good sound preferences)... *meh* because the icons used in the menu are not the originals and i've no idea how to get the originals back unlike in mate/gnome2
[12:36] <lantizia> anyone know of any other lxde but ubuntu-derived distro's ?
[12:41] <lantizia> ah! program icons update only when log in and out :S hmm
[12:42] <phiscribe> lantizia, man im not sure what your looking for, maybe kde.  abiword and gnumeric are light.  i run lubuntu on a p4 with 1g ram, sometimes 1/2 gig.  pulseaudio will idle 30% cpu.  all those sound utils eat resources.  alsamixer works like a champ.
[12:42] <phiscribe> i replace chromium with midori
[12:44] <lantizia> see i'd replace chromium with chrome  - but that's just me
[12:45] <lantizia> at the moment I use MATE... but since LXDE has a bigger following than MATE (well ok at least I *think* they do) and MATE is gnome2 which is some very old code... i'd ratheer follow lxde
[12:45] <lantizia> i don't need something as fancy as kde/unity/gnome3
[12:48] <lantizia> also mtpaint might be light weight - but it is way too feature rich for a simple paint program
[12:48] <lantizia> like exporting ascii art wtf ?
[12:48] <lantizia> kpaint is a good choice - but then the downside is it needs kde libraries lol
[12:49] <lantizia> the entertainment pack that is installed looks like it is from an ancient pre-Xorg linux 2.0 release lol - simon tathams games would make a fine lightweight non-gnome choice though
[15:04] <cerebrate> how do i download data from youtube
[15:04] <cerebrate> the data of the video
[15:04] <cerebrate> it doesn't play all the way :C
[15:05] <cerebrate> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycn-I1-aDwo&feature=endscreen&NR=1
[16:01] <phiscribe> puts the youtube somewhere chromiums cache.  hard to dig out without a cache viewer tool.  easier just to use a web service like this:  http://en.savefrom.net
[16:03] <phiscribe> and i think the source field which reality emerges from is pure consciousness btw cerebrate
[16:04] <cerebrate> cool=
[16:06] <phiscribe> but if you use that en.savefrom.net site it will give you a url straight to the file, like http://s03.savefrom.net/media/212203819/427df958db63be44bea1fbfdb13594ff/Quantum+Physics+%26+Consciousness.mp4
[18:26] <Kuroda_Shun> i have a install question
[18:27] <Kuroda_Shun> i have a razorSQL fro my linux boz in zip form.. but dont know how to install it
[18:27] <Kuroda_Shun> *box
[19:37] <divx118> Can the battery icon be removed in the tray (lubuntu 11.10)?
[19:38] <zleap> have a look at panel preferences
[19:39] <zleap> or panel settings
[19:40] <divx118> Hmm, must have overlooked it then. I will take a look again.
[19:41] <phillw> divx118: it is under Preferences --> Power Manager
[19:48] <divx118> phillw: Is it xfce4-power-manager? I am missing the power manager entry under preferences.
[19:50] <phillw> divx118: let me check my repos in my 11.10 (I may have the developer backports ppa enabled).
[19:51] <phillw> sorry, was checking my 12.04. Starting oneric now.
[19:52] <divx118> No problem, I have time :)
[19:54] <Unit193> Keep in mind it's life ends in April.
[19:55] <phillw> Right Click on the task-bar, select Add / Remove Panel Items, select Panel Applets. You should see the Battery Monitor icon listed.
[19:57] <divx118> Ah, It will be time then that I fix my touchscreen driver. No right click yet.
[19:58] <divx118> Thanks for the info.
[19:59] <phillw> divx118: it may an idea to update to 12.04, even though not LTS for all lubuntu specific applications, the kernel / browser etc will retain LTS from 'core' ubuntu teams
[20:05] <divx118> phillw: I won't gain much by updating to ubuntu 12.04 I am working on an arm device with a half ported 2.6.37 kernel. There are still some things I need to fix in the kernel. Most problems I encounter are kernel related.
[20:06] <divx118> I wanted the battery icon gone, because I want my own coded icon to replace it.
[20:07] <divx118> Battery is working, but my kernel doesn't support acpi.
[20:07] <divx118> So I just want to read the value directly from /sys
[20:11] <gomiboy> divx118: I'm curious... what arm device?
[20:12] <divx118> archos 101IT gen8 with 3630 processor from TI
[20:12] <divx118> Close to beagleboardXM
[20:12] <divx118> Original kernel is 2.6.29
[20:16] <gomiboy> Oh, a tablet, out of mi interests, thanks :)
[20:44] <redtape-renegade> None of my packages are installing on the Lubuntu Software Center.. anyone else got this ?
[20:52] <zleap> i am sure latex can do that sort of thing
[21:30] <aJacom> if i install lubuntu instead of ubuntu will i be able to run all the applications or will i have a reduced number of options?
[21:31] <gohst> As far as I have seen there should be no problems...
[21:32] <aJacom> gohst, my question comes because i know there are some applications built for gnome, and lubuntu uses lxde
[21:33] <aJacom> sorry
[21:33] <aJacom> did you say anything ?
[21:34] <Unit193> Same repos, so same programs.
[21:34] <Unit193> Now, you'll want to be careful with gnome ones, and some kde ones too, but you can install them.
[21:35] <gohst> as i have seen in my own expirience is that there are seldom real trouble... i have changed my netbook from ubuntu-gnome to lubuntu and i have no trouble... yet
[21:35] <aJacom> alright, nice, thanks


[14:49] <Iamthehuman1> I did a 'nmap localhost' and I noticed "8200/tcp open  trivnet1" ... I did some searching on "trivnet1" and it may be something to do with miniDLNA, but I'm a bit worried that searching for this program and port and "Ubuntu Studio" gives pretty much no results
[14:52] <Iamthehuman1> Yeah, ok, I shut minidlna out and the port stopped showing up ... so this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA and prlly totally legit
[15:15] <Iamthehuman1> now burning 21.10 .iso ... I bought the aptik license and have made a backup of this system. Next I need to check my intrawiki (and probably the Internet) on how to remove a couple of old unused /-partitions ... iirc just remove the partitions and run 'sudo update-grub'
[16:35] <Iamthehuman1> Ok. Old root partitions deleted and this US moved to the end of the empty space ... the really hairy question in this 'migration to a clean system + aptik restore + manually restore configs of programs that were working fine' is which configs to restore


[03:17] <guiverc> Bashing-om, I finished my read thru (finally), no comments either
[03:17] <guiverc> ie. looks good
[03:23] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Double wow outstanding - as I do not feel good physically - I did have to do this slowly, carefully - As many errors as I did make/correct - I was certain there would be those I did not catch :D
[03:24] <guiverc> You did an outstanding job in my opinion !
[10:11] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Embedded Linux project: Yocto or Ubuntu Core? [Part I] @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/embedded-linux-project-i
[10:26] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Digital transformation and use cases in logistics @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/digital-transformation-use-cases-logistics
[11:57] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Embedded Linux project: Yocto or Ubuntu Core? [Part II] @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/embedded-linux-project-ii
[14:00] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Embedded Linux project: Yocto or Ubuntu Core? [Part III] @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/embedded-linux-project-iii
[14:15] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu 22.10 Codename is ‘Kinetic Kudu’ @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-22-10-codename-is-kinetic-kudu (by Joey Sneddon)
[14:27] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: The MicroK8s addons framework – now open to everyone! @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-microk8s-addons-framework-now-open-to-everyone
[14:57] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Upgrade your data science workflows with Ubuntu WSL @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/upgrade-data-science-workflows-ubuntu-wsl
[15:26] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Ubuntu supports Arm64-based Microsoft Azure Virtual Machines @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-supports-arm64-based-microsoft-azure-virtual-machines
[16:39] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Pop!_OS 22.04 Released, This is What’s New @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/pop-os-22-04-lts-features-download (by Joey Sneddon)
[16:56] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: These AI-Made Ubuntu Mascot Artworks are Incredible @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/03/ubuntu-mascots-drawn-by-ai-is-incredible (by Joey Sneddon)
[17:20] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Pop!_OS 22.04 Released, This is What’s New @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/pop-os-22-04-lts-features-download (by Joey Sneddon)
[19:03] <Bashing-om> UWN: Pulling "WIP" - log checked and no further edits are known. Time to push 20:00 UTC :D
[19:58] <Bashing-om> UWN: ubuntu-news@lists is away - doing the Forum post next.
[20:08] <Bashing-om> UWN: Foeum post done - Re-directs comming up :D
[20:22] <Bashing-om> UWN: Re-directs completed - pending now is release to the Social Medias.
[21:47] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: How to Upgrade to Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS (GUI & CLI Methods) @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-upgrade-to-pop-os-22-04-lts (by Joey Sneddon)
[21:50] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Your First Look at Ubuntu 22.04’s Default Wallpaper @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/03/ubuntu-22-04-lts-default-wallpaper-revealed (by Joey Sneddon)
[22:02] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: How to Upgrade to Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS (GUI & CLI Methods) @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-upgrade-to-pop-os-22-04-lts (by Joey Sneddon)
[22:32] <guiverc> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/04/25/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-732/
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Fridge: Spot check - checks good.
[22:35] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Do away - rinse and repeat now ?
[22:36] <guiverc> :)  yep scrub away
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Doing ^^ :D
[22:52] <Bashing-om> UWN: Gdoc set to 733 :D
[22:57] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 732 @ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/04/25/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-732/
[23:25] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Fridge:: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 732 @ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/04/25/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-732/ (by guiverc)
[23:46] <guiverc> twitter, telegram pasted ~hour ago (UWN 732) but fb finally done now too
[23:52] <Bashing-om> \0/ - wipe the sweat off and do this all over again :D