[11:53] <auronandace> Estragon: also the 4gb max filesize limit is rather irritating
[11:54] <roowilliams> just installing ubuntu for the first time now - ubuntu's install process with the live os running in the background is SO good, but the partitioning process offers a bit too much control for newbies. It would be good if there was a more automated process for newbs that want to make space for windows and ubuntu (with an automated swap created)
[11:54] <anudaasa> yes for w7 is only ntfs
[11:54] <Estragon> ok, should people consider fat32 as deprecated ?
[11:55] <quiescens> i doubt it
[11:55] <auronandace> Estragon: its still widely used on flash drives
[11:55] <Xabster> hasn't it been for years?
[11:55] <auronandace> Estragon: most operating systems support fat32
[11:55] <anudaasa> i have fat32 on my usb drive
[11:56] <roowilliams> there are multifunctional printer devices at our uni - brand new.. they dont recognise my NTFS usb key
[11:56] <roowilliams> or drive rather
[11:57] <ibiwor> Hello! I'm unable to ssh into laptop connected to the same network. I can ssh from laptop to desktop but not the other way round. I restarted services on both the systems, purged openssh-server, openssh-client, did ssh-keygen/keyscan but still not working. This is output of ssh -vvv http://paste.ubuntu.com/893492/ How can I fix it?
[11:58] <jrib> ibiwor: can you successfully « ssh localhost » on the laptop?
[11:58] <vlt> ibiwor: What does `netstat -tulpen` look like on the target machine?
[11:58] <mr_ubuntu_12>  hi Quickly edit opens file in vi instead of gedit HELP PLZ
[11:58] <ibiwor> Comparing ssh -vvv from other system got same start and/etc /ssh/ssh_config are also completely same
[11:58] <anudaasa> ibiwor: can you ping other machine
[11:58] <ibiwor> jrib: Yes, ssh 0 works
[11:58] <Sidewinder1> Xabster, Kinda OT, but I believe that Win NT was the first to utilize NTFS; all of the other win OSs (3.11 {might've been fat16}, 95, 98, etc) and the repair portions of internal HDs used fat32.
[11:58] <anudaasa> ibiwor: ?
[11:58] <ibiwor> anudaasa: yes
[11:58] <b0bd0l3>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu,#fedora,#linuxjournal * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[11:59] <mcb_1>  ibiwor: What erro does ssh report? Ot it just timeout?
[11:59] <mickjagger> witam witam czy ktoś po Polsku Jestem nowym na linuxie i sprawdzam wszystko bo wszystko tu nowe
[11:59] <jrib> !pl | mickjagger
[12:00] <mickjagger> ok dziękuję bardzo i pozdrawiam
[12:00] <ibiwor> vlt: What I'm supposed to look for with `netstat -tulpen` on target system?
[12:00] <anudaasa> ibiwor: its your first time connecting on machine or not ?
[12:00] <ibiwor> mcb_1: It hangs at the last line as shown here http://paste.ubuntu.com/893492/
[12:00] <ibiwor> anudaasa: No
[12:00] <ibiwor> anudaasa: It used to connect fine before
[12:01] <anudaasa> ibiwor: ok, is there some firewall ?
[12:01] <ibiwor> anudaasa: $ sudo ufw status Status: inactive
[12:02] <anudaasa> ibiwor: ping working on both machines ?
[12:02] <ibiwor> anudaasa: yep
[12:03] <vlt> ibiwor: You should see sshd process listening to an IP and port number.
[12:03] <ibiwor> vlt: Umm, I'm trying to understand that
[12:03] <anudaasa> ibiwor: both machines have enough memory ?
[12:04] <vlt> ibiwor: You could !paste the output.
[12:04] <ibiwor> !
[12:04] <ibiwor> ok vlt
[12:05] <chroot> hi, is there any car racing games in ubuntu?
[12:05] <anudaasa> ibiwor: and what is after no connection,,,, connection refused ? or what ?
[12:05] <chroot> if it support LAN , will be perfect.
[12:05] <anudaasa> chroot: i dont know but i like transport tycoon
[12:06] <chroot> transport tycoon is a car racing game?
[12:06] <kylen> chroot: tuxracer
[12:06] <kylen> hehe
[12:06] <chroot> any other?
[12:06] <kylen> tuxracer2 :D
[12:06] <kylen> hehe
[12:06] <chroot> tuxracer is a pengua.
[12:06] <ibiwor> anudaasa: As said, it does nothing after debug1: Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> [<IP_ADDRESS>] port 22. No error message so far
[12:06] <anudaasa> ChrisGagnon: tuxracer is car racing :-)
[12:06] <kylen> chroot: u must use wine :/
[12:07] <kylen> last time i check how run games on mac osx
[12:07] <kylen> 80% game work on preconfigure wine
[12:07] <anudaasa> ibiwor: maybe blocked port 22
[12:07] <kylen> fifa12 on mac run in wine
[12:07] <kylen> pro evolution too
[12:08] <kylen> but i do not understand what is problem on linux to run this game smootly
[12:08] <anudaasa> chronos: dosbox and bestoldgames.net
[12:09] <vlt> ibiwor: Ok. "tcp   0   0   <IP_ADDRESS>:22     <IP_ADDRESS>:*    LISTEN" tells you that sshd listens and should answer.
[12:09] <vindex> hi, im having trouble booting a custom kernel which used to boot just fine. there is no /dev/disk directory when i get the budybox shell
[12:09] <vindex> the scsi_wait_scan module is present in the initrd but it doesnt get loaded apparently
[12:09] <vlt> ibiwor: I'd have a look at the actual traffic on port 22. Either using tcpdump, iftop or similar.
[12:09] <ibiwor> vlt: Another thing I noticed is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/893506/
[12:10] <anudaasa> ibiwor: can you install vncviever and server ?
[12:10] <vlt> anudaasa: ?
[12:11] <anudaasa> anyway
[12:11] <ibiwor> vlt: I wonder why it says Need to get 0 B/1,296 kB of archives. after purging
[12:11] <vlt> ibiwor: Might be in cahce dir.
[12:11] <vlt> *cache
[12:12] <vlt> ibiwor: I don't think your sshd is the problem. Sounds to me like network related. Check whether IP packets arrive on port 22.
[12:12] <ibiwor> vlt: I got debug1: connect to address <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection timed out ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection timed out now
[12:12] <vlt> ibiwor: tcpdump :-)
[12:12] <ibiwor> vlt: Ok, trying tcpdump/iftop
[12:13] <ibiwor> vlt: But in the same network same port is being used by laptop to ssh to desktop ...
[12:13] <quiescens> i would probably look at "sudo iptables -L" on the system you are trying to connect to in order to eliminate the simpler possibilities first
[12:14] <ibiwor> quiescens: It says policy ACCEPT for INPUT/FORWARD/OUTPUT
[12:16] <anudaasa> ibiwor: can you change your user and try to cannect as someone else ?
[12:16] <anudaasa> connect
[12:16] <ibiwor> vlt: I also noticed that on ssh on desktop as localhost, it says - Last login: Wed Mar 21 17:20:30 2012 from ibiwor... recent time
[12:17] <ibiwor> anudaasa: Ok, will try that
[12:17] <anudaasa> ibiwor:  i mean, there is some time out
[12:17] <anudaasa> ibiwor:  maybe blocked packet or somethink
[12:18] <vlt> ibiwor: The "last login" line doesn't tell you anything about your network. What does tcpdump say?
[12:18] <mr_ubuntu_12>  hi Quickly edit opens file in vi instead of gedit HELP PLZ
[12:19] <sacarlson> mr_ubuntu_12: did you try right click in nautilus of the file type you want to edit to change what it uses to open them
[12:19] <sybarite> does anyone know here why my ubuntu has a gradually decreasing and increasing ping times with other networked machines on the same LAN?? Is this is kernel problem?
[12:19] <rileyp> mr_ubuntu_12 open a terminal and open it with gedit filename
[12:20] <anudaasa> mr_ubuntu_12: kedit :-)
[12:20] <sacarlson> sybarite: by how much change?  1 mili secound?  is the lan busy or quiet?
[12:21] <mr_ubuntu_12> rileyp thanks yes i did set gedit or geany to be default editor for python files but command "quickly edit" should open all files in gedit instead it opens one file in vi
[12:21] <sacarlson> sybarite: oh and is is a wired or wireless network?
[12:21] <skukza> hello, looking to run ubuntu on an old ppc mac mini is there a prefered version given the old hardware?
[12:21] <Douglas> !help
[12:21] <sybarite> sacarlson, yes 1 milisecond everytime its a wired network
[12:21] <auronandace> !ppc | skukza
[12:21] <Douglas> hello is there someone here who is knowledgable? I got install problems.
[12:22] <sybarite> sacarlson, sometimes its happening sometimes it does not
[12:22] <Estragon> auronandace: finally took 39 minutes to resize the partition \o/ thanks
[12:22] <sacarlson> sybarite: I'm not sure I can blink my eye in 1 milisecond so not sure I would notice it
[12:22] <auronandace> Estragon: that sounds about right
[12:22] <aatish_> hi everyone. am installed ubuntu 11.10 on an acer netbook model aspire one zg8 for a friend. i am having issues with the shutdown/restart. i get a black screen for minutes (it does not freeze) and does not shutdown or restart. can someone point me in the right direction how to solve this. Note. i applied all the updates and problem still there. thank you
[12:22] <skukza> cheers
[12:22] <Douglas> hello is there someone here who is knowledgable? I got install problems.
[12:23] <rileyp>  Douglas no we are all really stupid
[12:23] <DarkApex> mr_ubuntu_12 : check in your default application whether you have gedit as default text-editor
[12:23] <mr_ubuntu_12> HELP PLZ:  command "quickly edit" opens one file in vi instead of all files gedit
[12:23] <mr_ubuntu_12> DarkApex yes default editor is geany
[12:23] <sybarite> sacarlson, well its starts at 100ms and then goes till 1 then it comes back to 100 ms
[12:23] <Douglas> rileyp: knowledgable doesn't mean smart.
[12:23] <auronandace> Douglas: many are, depends what knowledge you need
[12:23] <Douglas> also, it helps being a decent person :)
[12:23] <sybarite> sacarlson, also this makes file sharing between the networks slower
[12:23] <rileyp> Douglas:  ask your question and stop wffling
[12:24] <Douglas> calm down rileyp
[12:24] <Douglas> not my fault you have a bad day
[12:24] <rileyp> waffling
[12:24] <rileyp> you r wasting time ask
[12:24] <aatish_> !patience
[12:24] <Sidewinder1> Douglas, Did you Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed?
[12:25] <Douglas> auronandace: see PM
[12:25] <rileyp> Douglas:  why not type  five lines before you ask your question to lead us in gently please at your leasure
[12:25] <auronandace> Douglas: please keep it in the channel
[12:25] <Douglas> alright
[12:25] <Douglas> well the thing is that I've downloaded the 11.10 version of lubuntu
[12:26] <Douglas> but when the wubi starts up i can choose from 4 diff versions, but lubuntu isnt there
[12:27] <auronandace> Douglas: i don't use wubi. any reason you need wubi? why not a vm or a dualboot install?
[12:27] <Douglas> well im not technical(hence im here)
[12:27] <Douglas> i mounted the iso on a virtual drive on both poweriso and daemon
[12:28] <vlt> ibiwor: `tcpdump -i eth0 port 22` for example.
[12:28] <Douglas> but both programs keep starting up wubi once i run the virtual cd
[12:28] <auronandace> Douglas: dualboot is easy, a vm is easier
[12:28] <apple314> Hy guys! Hope someone has a little time... I'm trying to make a bash script that would change my ip add every x seconds, from available <IP_ADDRESS>/24... Any ideas?
[12:28] <auronandace> Douglas: the hardest part it partitioning
[12:29] <auronandace> is
[12:29] <Douglas> okay but vm stands for virtual machine, right?
[12:29] <auronandace> Douglas: yes
[12:29] <auronandace> Douglas: we are happy to help you with partitioning
[12:29] <Douglas> also, how does dualboot work? i don't have a way to use a cd
[12:29] <Douglas> my laptop doesn't have cd/dvd capability
[12:29] <auronandace> !usb | Douglas
[12:30] <Douglas> ah k
[12:30] <ibiwor> vlt: $ sudo tcpdump -vv -i wlan0 port 22 tcpdump: listening on wlan0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
[12:30] <Douglas> and is this also avaible for lubuntu?
[12:30] <rileyp> apple314 yes write  a script that edits /etc/networks/interface in it the command sleep 6  a for next loop a variable and ifup and and ifdn
[12:31] <auronandace> Douglas: yes, it works with all of the supported buntus
[12:31] <vlt> ibiwor: Ok, keep that running and try to connect again.
[12:31] <Douglas> okay so i put the iso file on the usb and what then?
[12:31] <auronandace> Douglas: did you read the links ubottu gave you?
[12:32] <auronandace> Douglas: if you are using 11.10 you can dd or cat the iso to the usb
[12:32] <Douglas> as far as i understood it i need to install somekind of program
[12:32] <Douglas> "linux live usb creator"
[12:32] <rileyp> Douglas:   if you have windows install pen drive linux and you use this program in windows to make a bootable usb stick that will allow you to install any flavor you like
[12:32] <Douglas> what is dd or cat?
[12:32] <apple314> rileyp How would I do it?
[12:33] <auronandace> Douglas: programs that run on unix-like operating systems
[12:33] <rileyp> apple314:  go read a guide on how to use bash
[12:33] <adhitya> dd convert and copy a file ..
[12:33] <Jacta_> :op
[12:34] <apple314> rileyp: Yeah, guest as much. Anyway thanks for your time
[12:34] <Douglas> auron: i am still confused why lubuntu doens't show up in wubi
[12:34] <rileyp> Douglas:  cat is used in linux to view a file in a terminal
[12:34] <Douglas> even if you think it's irrelevant, i downloaded the lubuntu from their website and it isn't there
[12:34] <auronandace> Douglas:  i don't use wubi so i don't know
[12:34] <Douglas> it is just bizarre
[12:34] <Jacta_> Are you all sure!
[12:35] <sipior> apple314: i'm probably going to regret asking this, but what are you hoping to accomplish by changing out your interface address every few seconds?
[12:35] <Douglas> is there  a way to install lubuntu from the windows fire explorer?
[12:35] <rileyp> sipior:  it sounds like a univerity  homework problem
[12:35] <ldiamond> My ubuntu has memory leaks... any known fixes? Uptime of 8 days and my 6GB is almost completely taken. Program's memory usage really doesn't add up to 6GB, far from it.
[12:35] <Douglas> transforming my USB to a bootable linux version sounds advanced
[12:35] <auronandace> !wubi | Douglas
[12:35] <ldiamond> Is this a known thing with a fix?
[12:35] <sipior> rileyp: hmm, could be.
[12:36] <adhitya> Douglas: i think no ways.. except you are using live usb or live cd..
[12:36] <nikolai_> ldiamond: cat free pls
[12:36] <adhitya> Douglas : try unetbootin
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> sipior  havent you seen the movie 'untraceable"? if not, do so and see what you can do by constantly changeing your IP address
[12:36] <rileyp> Douglas: instll pendrive linux and make 3 clicks
[12:36] <Douglas> so basically my only way out is using a live usb or live cd, nothing inbetween?
[12:36] <sipior> ldiamond: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[12:36] <ldiamond> nikolai_ : Mem:       6122592    5715024     407568          0      58608     161004
[12:37] <sipior> MonkeyDust: uh huh :-)
[12:37] <adhitya> Douglas : try unetbootin
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> Douglas, With all due respect to the developers, many aspects of Wubi can be problematic. Please keep in mind that one of it's purposes is to simply try Ubuntu, from the windows environment. If one likes it, the next logical step is to install Ubuntu; dual-boot, and go from there.
[12:37] <ldiamond> sipior, this is not disk caching.
[12:37] <airtonix> sipior: i write with green text in my terminal, derp.
[12:37] <sipior> airtonix: that's nice.
[12:37] <ldiamond> sipior, I'm sitting at like 90%+
[12:37] <compdoc> whats a derp?
[12:37] <madrid> mariconaasss
[12:37] <ldiamond> sipior, and everything gets slow as hell.
[12:37] <rileyp> Douglas:  wubi is something made for you to try linux inst second rate to teh real deal as you have to boot to windows first
[12:37] <madrid> chuparlaa
[12:37] <Douglas> which is better, unetbootin or pendrive linux?
[12:38] <madrid> chupamela pijaa
[12:38] <airtonix> Douglas: whichever one works?
[12:38] <sacarlson> sipior: i'm just guessing but probly so there ISP (momy/dady) don't know who's been downloading all that stuff off the internet
[12:38] <Douglas> anyone knows which works better?
[12:38] <sipior> ldiamond: can you pastebin the output of vmstat?
[12:38] <rileyp> unetboot in us iued in linux to make a boot disk and pdl is used in doze
[12:38] <nikolai_> ldiamond: what about disk caching line?
[12:38] <rileyp> so if you have doze use pdl if you have linux use unetboot in
[12:39] <Douglas> what is doze?
[12:39] <rileyp> windoze
[12:39] <ldiamond> 250MB of cache
[12:39] <Douglas> heh
[12:39] <ldiamond> out of 6GB
[12:39] <rileyp> windows
[12:39] <Douglas> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/make-a-usb-boot-cd-for-ubuntu-11-10/
[12:39] <Douglas> seems fairly far away from "3 clicks"
[12:40] <ldiamond> I'm clearing a bunch of things out now, but I've been having issues for a while. I've read some forums where they say there are some memory leaks.
[12:40] <ldiamond> I basically just want to know if there is a known issue with a fix/workaround
[12:40] <adhitya> douglas : if you're using unetbootin u can use your iso image to make live usb..
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Douglas  "better" depends on what you prefer, MultiSystem is another way to create a bootable usb stick
[12:41] <rileyp> Doug  3 click will make a bootable usb you then reboot to teh usb and then your usb will bot and away you go install your new operating stystem
[12:41] <amaroks> Hello Guys
[12:41] <ldiamond> My PC was getting slow specifically because there was no more caching being done by the OS because of a lack of memory
[12:41] <amaroks> How do I move all dir contents excluding a folder within that dir?
[12:41] <Douglas> monkeydust, what do you mean with "what i prefer", are there options here? im using windows.
[12:42] <Douglas> rileyp i can still partition right?
[12:42] <ldiamond> I see the cache going up as I free some RAM. Though I can't get back down below 40% even when closing everything
[12:42] <Douglas> windows can be good if all else fails for certain programs which are rare.
[12:42] <ldiamond> I guess I could buy some 12GB extra...
[12:42] <quiescens> ldiamond: you could probably have a look at the output of "ps axuf" or something toget an idea of where things are if it is a usermode problem
[12:43] <rileyp> Douglas: yes when the usb boots you get all the options you may need to pres a button so it will boot to usb
[12:43] <compdoc> ldiamond, how much ram you have now?
[12:43] <amaroks> anyone?
[12:43] <Douglas> adhitya: unetbootin doesn't have support for lubuntu
[12:43] <rileyp> or edit bios settinsg to allow boot from usb
[12:44] <amaroks> How do I move all dir contents excluding a folder within that dir?
[12:44] <compdoc> amaroks, most commands like that have an option for recursion
[12:44] <ldiamond> compdoc, 6GB
[12:45] <ldiamond> quiescens, I'll try to figure out what to pipe it through to sort and add for total.
[12:45] <compdoc> amaroks, oh, excluding - I missed that
[12:45] <Douglas> rileyp: should i use YUMI or universal USB installer version? there are two on the website
[12:45] <rileyp> Douglas: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
[12:45] <sacarlson> amaroks: in nautilus you could try select drag and drop
[12:46] <ldiamond> quiescens, ugh, that will be hard to sort given it's grouped...
[12:46] <quiescens> ldiamond: you can use ps aux instead
[12:46] <amaroks> sacarlson: SSH
[12:46] <rileyp> Douglas:  download one of these and pdl and make a usb and reboot
[12:46] <Douglas> yeah I have that on torrent rileyp
[12:46] <Douglas> already downloaded
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Douglas  by "prefer" I mean, what you find easiest to use
[12:46] <quiescens> ldiamo: auxf is for looking at, not for trying to magically process it
[12:46] <adhitya> Douglas: i was trying all linux distro include lubuntu and it working...
[12:46] <sacarlson> amaroks: yes ssh , but skip the drag and drop and just copy and paiste
[12:46] <Douglas> that's the version which starts the wubi all the time when mounted as a vm
[12:47] <Douglas> adhitya: lubuntu isn't shown in the list of supported distros but i take your word for it
[12:47] <adhitya> douglas: okay..
[12:47] <ldiamond> quiescens, I know, but it's nice to have both :p (--sort=vsz)
[12:48] <Douglas> okay rileyp
[12:48] <Douglas> thx for the tips
[12:48] <Douglas> i'll try it
[12:48] <Douglas> your program does have lubuntu
[12:48] <Douglas> up until 11.10, unlike the other program
[12:48] <vlt> ibiwor: Can you past *one* example line of tcpdump's output here?
[12:48] <vlt> *past
[12:48] <vlt> *paste
[12:49] <rileyp> Douglas:  then choose another buntu and then install lubuntu desktop after. more than one way to f.. a cat
[12:49] <ibiwor> vlt:
[12:49] <ibiwor> Archimedes.ssh > Jovial.44712: Flags [S.], cksum 0x964b (incorrect -> 0xa1ed), seq 191021576, ack 804170849, win 14480, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 1659431 ecr 40970798,nop,wscale 4], length 0 18:15:55.642930 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)
[12:50] <adhitya> Douglas : try this .. open unetbootin -> select diskimage -> then select your lubuntu iso image -> select your usb drive and then ok -> wait until finish -> restart then try it
[12:50] <rileyp> then remove the other desktop if you dont want to keep it linux is smart you can have 5 differing desktops if you want all on the same machine
[12:50] <vlt> ibiwor: This is a packet _from_ an ssh server (Archimedes) to a client (Jovial).
[12:50] <rileyp> adhitya:  he only has windows at present I think
[12:51] <ibiwor> vlt: True
[12:51] <ibiwor> vlt: ibiwor (Jovial), Desktop (Archimedes)
[12:51] <adhitya> on linux too .. has unetbootin.. i think..
[12:51] <vlt> ibiwor: We are looking for one from the client to your server "Jovial".
[12:52] <adhitya> rileyp: on linux too .. has unetbootin.. i think..
[12:53] <ibiwor> vlt: from laptop(Jovial) to desktop(Arch)?
[12:53] <ibiwor> vlt: I said that laptop is able to ssh to desktop but desktop is not able ti
[12:53] <ibiwor> to
[12:53] <amaroks> no one has answer to my question? mv * /some/where , but with exluding a single folder
[12:53] <rileyp> adhitya i thought it was only on linux unetboot in lol
[12:53] <amaroks> ?
[12:54] <sacarlson> amaroks: nautilus failed to work?
[12:54] <adhitya> rileyp : i don't understand ..??
[12:54] <amaroks> What is nautilus?
[12:54] <vlt> ibiwor: To see whether packets from the client make it to the server we need to know whether there's a packet from the client to the server's port 22.
[12:55] <sacarlson> amaroks: the default filemanager
[12:55] <rileyp> adhitya: sorry i  thought unetboot in it was only on linux which is why i suggested pdl
[12:55] <adhitya> rileyp : sorry :-)
[12:55] <amaroks> sacarlson: how do I run that?
[12:56] <sacarlson> amaroks: $nautilus; file connect to server> select ssh> fill in ip and user name...
[12:56] <rileyp> adhitya:  bnah its all good is it on linux as well in buntu there is startup disk creator thats what I use
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> amaroks  first time you use ubuntu?
[12:56] <amaroks> Im already sshed into ubuntu server
[12:56] <amaroks> no way to just run it?
[12:56] <ibiwor> vlt: So I should try paste tcpdump o/p of client(laptop)?
[12:56] <adhitya> rileyp : okay .. i will try it later , thank you..
[12:57] <sacarlson> amaroks: you can ssh in many time from the same  source ip,  but this time it will be form nautilus
[12:57] <sacarlson> amaroks: it's a gui app nautilus, can't be any easier
[12:57] <vlt> ibiwor: trolling?
[12:58] <lasers`> Okay. I'm lost. I don't know what I'm missing. I'm learning NFS/Autofs. I'm on my laptop and I can access /net/xps.local/dir1 but I can't access /net/xps.local/dir2 (although I placed both dirs in server's /etc/exports (and did 'sudo exportfs -ra')
[12:59] <sacarlson> lasers`: what file system is the dir2 in?  ntfs?
[13:00] <lasers`> sacarlson: Not NTFS. It's either ext3 or ext4. I don't remember.
[13:00] <sacarlson> lasers`: then maybe apparmor?
[13:01] <sacarlson> lasers`: are the files perms and owner the same?
[13:01] <lasers`> sacarlson: I'm new to NFS/AutoFS so I may be missing out on something trivial. I don't believe it is apparmor.
[13:02] <sacarlson> lasers`: from the info you gave that was about all you needed to do as far as I know
[13:02] <diverdude> When i do sudo dpkg -i ../Downloads/mysql-workbench-gpl-5.2.38-1ubu1104-amd64.deb i get : Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-workbench-gpl. What am I doing wrong?
[13:03] <lasers`> sacarlson: Comparing both dirs. Both have same permissions and $USER:$USER. Odd. :O
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> lasers`  i guess you don't have to place dirs in /etc/exports -- it's IP addresses, I guess two dirs on the same IP address are conflicting
[13:03] <auronandace> diverdude: are you using 11.04?
[13:04] <sacarlson> lasers`: MonkeyDust: oh I think monkey is correct, I'll take a quick look at my configs
[13:05] <lasers`> MonkeyDust: Can you give me an example of sharing multiple directories on <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ?
[13:05] <diverdude> auronandace: yes
[13:05] <auronandace> diverdude: where did you get that deb from?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> lasers`  not ATM, my own remote pc is down, but i think you're seeing it wrong -- NFS is not for sharing, it's for remote mounting
[13:07] <diverdude> auronandace: here http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench
[13:07] <sacarlson> lasers`: a line out of my /etc/exports:  /nfs-share/ubuntu/    <IP_ADDRESS>/24(no_root_squash,rw,async,no_subtree_check)
[13:08] <auronandace> diverdude: checked their forums?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> lasers`  my 11 year old student is waiting, gotta run - good luck
[13:09] <tyler_d> am I missing something... you wouldn't share things within an ip range?
[13:09] <tyler_d> lasers`: you would want to share it or mount it via an ip address.. not an ip range
[13:09] <ldlework> How do I uninstall apache?
[13:09] <ldlework> sudo aptitude remove apache2 doesn't seem to do anything
[13:09] <adhitya> tyler_d : what did you mean ?
[13:10] <sacarlson> tyler_d: an address?  how could other systems that want to pxe use it if only a single address was allowed to use it
[13:10] <ibiwor> vlt: Sorry, what?!
[13:10] <tyler_d> adhitya: might have missread that... sorry thought that was a line from fstab
[13:10] <lasers`> MonkeyDust: Okay. Thank you. From what I read, NFS is linux native and would be more suitable (less overhead) than Samba for sharing/mounting.
[13:10] <vlt> ibiwor: We want to find out whether ssh traffic arrives on the server, right? So we need a line from tcpdump running on the server that shows us a packet from somewhere to the server's port 22.
[13:11] <adhitya> tyler_d : okay
[13:11] <ibiwor> ibiwor: Yes, I'm trying that. I went to see if there is a problem for the laptop to connect to network!
[13:11] <tyler_d> vlt: tcpdump -nes0 ether host <<mac_address>> port 22
[13:11] <vlt> ibiwor: `tcpdump -i <your_device> dst host <your_server_ip> and dst port 22` should only show those.
[13:11] <sacarlson> lasers`: and I have 3 other lines in /etc/exports here is one more: /nfsroot             *(rw,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
[13:11] <lasers`> tyler_d: Local 192.168.1* home network.
[13:12] <gfc> ldlework!: whot would like to unisatll servPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatllPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatll on aPRIVMSG #ubuntu :ldlework!: whot would like to unisatll on apache
[13:12] <tyler_d> catch me up here lasers` what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:12] <mpanikos_> Hello,i have a problem with my graphics card Nvidia GTS450,my ubuntu 11.10 cant recognize her  for some reason...i mean i have graphic's but when i go to system settings "ifno" at the Graphics it says "unknown" ...some help plz???
[13:12] <ldlework> gfc, uh what?
[13:12] <lasers`> tyler_d: Mounting multiple directories. One dir works. The other dir does not.
[13:12] <ibiwor> vlt: Depending on the direction of communication, the server and client in home network changes, right?
[13:13] <sacarlson> lasers: if you just put *(...)  then any address instead of a range <IP_ADDRESS>/24(....)  can connect
[13:13] <ibiwor> vlt: So I got confused what you were referring to client and what server when ssh is being attempted from laptop to desktop
[13:13] <vlt> ibiwor: What do you mean? "changes"?
[13:13] <tyler_d> lasers`: are both dir's on the same machine?
[13:13] <lasers`> tyler_d: Yes.
[13:14] <vlt> ibiwor: I don't care whether it's a laptop or a mainframe. One machine is the ssh server you try to connect to.
[13:14] <tyler_d> lasers`: what is the error given when you try to open the non-working dir?
[13:14] <sacarlson> lasers`: pastebinit your /etc/exports for us to see if your still having problems
[13:14] <ibiwor> vlt: As far I understand, if i ssh from laptop to desktop. laptop is client and desktop server
[13:14] <Guest75156> hello
[13:14] <prodnix> Hi all, I was wundering if anyone could roughly outline how i would attach my domain name to my ubuntu box. I have a domain with go daddy and have bind9 installed on the box but how do i attach the 2, I basically want my domain name to be absolutely bound to my box? Any help would be hugely appreciated
[13:14] <vlt> ibiwor: Correct.
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> !root > Guest75156
[13:15] <ohs> what is wrong with the following command  tar -xf angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 -C
[13:15] <ohs> I get the following error tar: option requires an argument -- C
[13:15] <ohs> how should I type the command?
[13:15] <sipior> ohs: you need to provide a target directory (i.e., and argument to -C)
[13:16] <erinaceus> ohs: -C requiers a folder, check the manpages
[13:16] <vlt> prodnix: Domains are "attached" to IP addresses via DNS. Your DNS server needs to know what IP address to serve for that domain.
[13:16] <Kre10s_> I just logged in to ubuntu. my background black, and there are no desktop items. It stays like that for 20s and then the items appear and the background is set to the correct one. what could be causing this delay?
[13:16] <ohs> thank you
[13:16] <ldlework> how do you disable startup services like evolution?
[13:17] <ohs> should it be like tar -xf angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 -C /home ?
[13:17] <mpanikos_> Hello,i have a problem with my graphics card Nvidia GTS450,my ubuntu 11.10 cant recognize her  for some reason...i mean i have graphic's but when i go to system settings "ifno" at the Graphics it says "unknown" ...some help plz???
[13:17] <vlt> prodnix: Does the IP address of your Ubuntu box change sometimes?
[13:17] <lasers`> sacarlson: I only want to limit it on 192.168.1.* -- Anyway. I'm still messing around with NFS.
[13:17] <prodnix> vlt: never
[13:17] <adhitya> ohs : use syntax tar -xf <your file> -C <directory to extract>
[13:18] <ohs> adhitya: thanks
[13:18] <adhitya> ohs : okay that' s right your welcome..
[13:18] <prodnix> can I just add the IP to the name server list of my godaddy account?
[13:18] <vlt> prodnix: Then you only need to edit the static "A record" for your domain on the DNS server that handles it.
[13:19] <prodnix> vlt: does that mean i dont need bind9 on my ubuntu box?
[13:20] <vlt> prodnix: If you want to run your own DNS server (bind9) you have to tell the registrar (godaddy) that there's a new DNS server. But you usually don't need your own if DNS is included in your domain account.
[13:20] <ikonia> prodnix: you'll also need two dns servers
[13:20] <faerun> hola
[13:20] <prodnix> vlt: your making sense to me now. I think i get it, ill just have to find the a-record for my account
[13:20] <vlt> prodnix: Yes, ikonia is right (in case you want your own DNS).
[13:20] <ikonia> prodnix: I'd advise you against running a dns service unless you really have to
[13:20] <lasers`> I'm taking a shower. I'll try to solve this issue next time I get back. Thank you, tyler_d and sacarlson
[13:21] <prodnix> ikonia: thanx for the help, its makin sense now.
[13:21] <prodnix> vlt: thanx for your time, much appreciated
[13:21] <vlt> prodnix: yw
[13:22] <rileyp>  ohs:install unp sudo apt-get install unp and then use it with unp filename its that easy
[13:23] <rns> I installed the PAE kernal with 32-bit 10.04 and now I can use all 8 gigs of RAM.  Are there any downsides to using this kernal?
[13:23] <belkhouja> #ubuntu-fr
[13:24] <rileyp> ohs unp works on most zipped tarred bunzipped gunzipped 7zip rar etc files
[13:24] <ikonia> rns: not really
[13:24] <raketti> i need to get this working in screen irssi /bind paste /eval exec sh -c echo "text from pastebuffer" > /path/to/file any help?
[13:25] <ibiwor> vlt: Sorry, I think one of the systems is having difficulties maintaining connection with the network. The ping to router and server failes at times
[13:25] <esben__> Hmm why is it I can't see the list of people in this room with empathy? Probably just pushed a wrong button :p
[13:25] <rns> ikonia, how is PAE different?  It just recognizes more memory?
[13:26] <ibiwor> vlt: The ping shows connectivity for a while then after few minutes, network host unreachable then again tries to connect back. I couldn't identify it before
[13:26] <prodnix> I owe u both an extra big beer. All working perfectly. TYVM
[13:29] <Jacta_> test
[13:29] <adhitya> Jacta_: okay
[13:30] <skel> does anyone know how to change the pcspkr sound or make it louder? I'm using it to alert in irc w/screen and irssi and it's too quiet
[13:30] <Jacta_> adhitya: thanks :)
[13:30] <adhitya> Jacta_ :your welcome :)
[13:30] <tomek_> what's up ??
[13:31] <adhitya> tomek_ : nothing :)
[13:31] <ohs> does exe extensioned file work on linux?
[13:31] <LjL> ohs: no
[13:31] <ohs> thanks
[13:31] <skel> ohs: a windows binary does not work out of the box, you'll need to use something like wine to run it
[13:32] <LjL> not without an emulator (WINE) at least
[13:32] <skel> ohs: and even then it may not work
[13:32] <adhitya> ohs : it will work if you're using wine (windows emulator)
[13:32] <CharminTheMoose> ohs, with wine, yes
[13:32] <mcruz> ohs if you want to install an application wine
[13:32] <mcruz> exactly LjL
[13:32] <ohs> thank you very much
[13:32] <mcruz> ok
[13:32] <CharminTheMoose> Wine Is Not An Emulator. ;) It's a win32 compatibility layer, isn't it?
[13:33] <bazhang> !appdb | ohs check here
[13:33] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: the actual difference being what
[13:34] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, well being that it doesn't actually emulate windows, just turns windows calls into linux ones?
[13:34] <skel> CharminTheMoose: it's a binary abi
[13:34] <ohs> thank you
[13:34] <skel> I guess thats redundant, just abi
[13:34] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: and "emulating Windows" wouldn't entail the same thing?
[13:34] <LukeNukem> hello
[13:34] <mcruz> hello
[13:34] <wismi> hello
[13:34] <LukeNukem> Ubuntu wont connect to an adhoc i setup via my mobile :\
[13:34] <adhitya> LukeNukem : hello
[13:34] <LukeNukem> adhitya, hi
[13:35] <mcruz> LukeNukem you can use the network gui
[13:35] <adhitya> LukeNukem ; okay..
[13:35] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, I'd assume that the words 'emulating windows' means the entire Desktop Environment of Windows.
[13:35] <LukeNukem> adhitya, do i know you?
[13:35] <LukeNukem> mcruz, um, which is that?
[13:35] <Jacta_> tre-
[13:35] <Jacta_> tre
[13:35] <mcruz> System -> Administration-> Networks tools
[13:35] <theShadow-> hi
[13:35] <mcruz> something like that
[13:35] <adhitya> LukeNukem : yes...
[13:36] <ibiwor> vlt: I think its issue with the laptop when booted to linux 'coz windows is able to maintain connection to network...
[13:36] <LukeNukem> adhitya, i dont remember, mate.
[13:36] <mcruz> or networkmanager
[13:36] <adhitya> LukeNukem : i'm from indonesia ...
[13:36] <nlko> hey guys, im trying to speed my boot time. ive turned off most services that i do not need, and also used grub "profile" (which doesnt seem to have done much). also I have set gdm to log straight in
[13:36] <mcruz> sudo service network-manager stop
[13:36] <mcruz> sudo ip link set eth1 down
[13:36] <theShadow-> is there a channel for gnome 3?
[13:36] <nlko> my question is, can i just disable gdm all together? is there need for it?
[13:36] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc
[13:36] <LukeNukem> mcruz, GNOME 3 :\
[13:37] <mcruz> use the command line
[13:37] <ikonia> theShadow-: the gnome IRC network has a large ammount of channels, all detailed on the gnome website
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 channel 4
[13:37] <LukeNukem> adhitya, really? you sound indian
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid 'name'
[13:37] <Jacta_> tre fire fem
[13:37] <LukeNukem> your name seems indian*
[13:37] <theShadow-> ok
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo iwconfig eth1 key some-key
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo ip link set eth1 up
[13:37] <adhitya> LukeNukem : yes , I'm from Indonesia ...
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo dhclient eth1
[13:37] <nlko> how can i make ubuntu boot fast?
[13:37] <mcruz> sudo ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/16 dev eth1
[13:38] <LukeNukem> adhitya, thats not india
[13:38] <mcruz> LukeNukem thats in my case
[13:38] <mcruz> change values
[13:38] <adhitya> LukeNukem : you're right ... asia..
[13:38] <mcruz> ok
[13:38] <LukeNukem> adhitya, trololo much?
[13:38] <LukeNukem> mcruz, channel depending on the adhoc channel set in my mobile right?
[13:38] <adhitya> LukeNukem : what is that ?
[13:38] <wismi> well, who spoke Spanish here
[13:38] <mcruz> yes
[13:38] <theShadow-> can you make grub automatically boot, without even showing the window?
[13:39] <mcruz> wismi me
[13:39] <mcruz> why
[13:39] <LukeNukem> theShadow-, why would you do that?
[13:39] <mcruz> wismi im from Dominican Republic
[13:39] <theShadow-> because I don't need it to show every time I start linux
[13:39] <theShadow-> it just wastes time
[13:39] <adhitya> LukeNukem : I want to offline ... sorry ..
[13:39] <mcruz> wismi hold on ill be back
[13:39] <Pici> !es | wismi
[13:39] <LukeNukem> ok
[13:40] <wismi> im from spain
[13:40] <mcruz> wismi #ubuntu-es yes
[13:40] <theShadow-> and I use rEFI to switch between OSX and linux anyway
[13:40] <arek_> Kto zna kanał pomocy po polsku Proszę
[13:40] <wismi> yes
[13:40] <denNorske> Anyone who can help me configure grub 2 to automaticly boot in windows?
[13:40] <Pici> !pl | arek_
[13:40] <wismi> thanks you
[13:40] <denNorske> (dual boot)
[13:41] <arek_> dzieki i przepraszam
[13:42] <denNorske> Anyone who can help me configure grub 2 to automaticly boot in windows? (sorry for asking again, but i am in a hrry)
[13:42] <theShadow-> is there no way to to tell grub to load by holding a hotkey?
[13:43] <denNorske> hmm, no, i dont know :S i am dual-booting windows and ubuntu, and ubuntu is at top of the list, so ubuntu boots
[13:43] <denNorske> i want windows to be default
[13:43] <mcruz> denNorske chainloader +1
[13:43] <Vooloo> how can I see which one of my network cards belong to eth1?
[13:43] <mcruz> in grub config
[13:44] <denNorske> where can i find grub-config
[13:44] <denNorske> download
[13:44] <denNorske> ?
[13:44] <mathews> #ekiga
[13:44] <sipior> theShadow-: you could simply set the timeout to zero.
[13:44] <Aesthenaut> mathews:  WAT
[13:44] <denNorske> i want windows to be default, not ubuntu
[13:44] <theShadow-> it tells me no such file exists
[13:44] <MestreLion> Vooloo: ifconfig
[13:44] <theShadow-> for boot/grub/menu.1st
[13:44] <mcruz> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:45] <MestreLion> Vooloo: ifconfig (or ethtools for more detailed info, if you have it)
[13:45] <denNorske> okay, and there?
[13:45] <Kre10s> It takes gnome 1 minute and 27 seconds to get from login to a fully loaded desktop. I do not have compiz, or window manager animations... How can I debug this problem,.
[13:45] <Kre10s> How can I tell what is holding up the login process?
[13:45] <MestreLion> /boot/grub/menu.lst ??!?! Are you guys really talking about Ubuntu ?
[13:45] <denNorske> check log-files
[13:45] <denNorske> yes
[13:46] <mcruz> MestreLion yes
[13:46] <mcruz> why
[13:46] <denNorske> i am talking about ubuntu, how to change the order of grub menu, (dualboot)
[13:46] <MestreLion> because there is not /boot/grub/menu.lst in Ubuntu
[13:46] <denNorske> i want windows to be default selection
[13:46] <denNorske> ok
[13:46] <MestreLion> at least not since Lucid 10.04
[13:46] <NewWorld> Yes I heard that menu.lst is gone now
[13:46] <denNorske> i have 11.10
[13:46] <MestreLion> "now"??
[13:46] <mcruz> MestreLion you wrong so wrong
[13:46] <MestreLion> it's gone more than 2 years ago
[13:46] <NewWorld> it used to be there
[13:46] <nlko> /etc/default/grub.cfg
[13:46] <mcruz> ill use Lucid
[13:47] <MestreLion> since Lucid 10.04. Ubuntu uses grub 2, NOT grub 1
[13:47] <MestreLion> so no more menu.lst
[13:47] <rns> anyone know how the PAE kernal is different?
[13:47] <Pici> !grub2
[13:47] <mcruz> MestreLion if you use lucid you should have it
[13:48] <mcruz> look for it
[13:48] <MestreLion> oh, since 9.10 ? So... menu.lst is gone for even longer :P
[13:48] <mcruz> MestreLion yes
[13:48] <Pici> MestreLion: An upgraded install will keep the version of grub it was using though.
[13:48] <drounse> i know this isnt the place to ask, but can someone help me update BIOS with freedos
[13:48] <sipior> rns: yes, it enables PAE, in order to address more than 4GB of ram on a 32-bit platform.
[13:48] <ikonia> drounse: if you know it's not the place, please don't ask
[13:49] <MestreLion> no mcruz .. I have Lucid in my netbook and Maverick in desktop, and none have menu.lst
[13:49] <ikonia> rns: you'll be fine using it is the bottom line
[13:49] <drounse> ikonia, the people in this chat room are far more helpful than all of the others combined
[13:49] <mcruz> sorry is in boot
[13:49] <mcruz> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:49] <mcruz> look for it
[13:49] <Pici> drounse: That still doesn't make this the right place to ask.
[13:49] <ikonia> drounse: sadly, they are only helpful on the ubuntu topic
[13:49] <MestreLion> rns: PAE is a workaround so 32-bit OSes can still address more than 4GB of RAM, thus not requiring you to install a 64bit one
[13:50] <almoxarife> mcruz: wrong, no menu.lst anymore
[13:50] <ikonia> !grub2
[13:50] <rns> MestreLion, so would I be able to add more than 16 gigs of ram and have it all recognized?
[13:50] <ikonia> check that info out - it will give a good overview to grub2
[13:50] <ikonia> rns: I think PAE stops at 32bit of ram, however the more ram you add you'll start to see an overhead
[13:51] <MestreLion> rns: I don't know the limit with PAE, if it's 12, 16 or 64GB RAM... but it is more than 4 :P
[13:51] <ikonia> rns: if you are going to use more than 16GB of ram, I'd use a 64bit OS
[13:51] <rns> ikonia, what do you mean overhead?
[13:51] <ikonia> rns: the way the additional ram is addressed
[13:51] <mcruz> ikonia use PAE
[13:51] <ikonia> rns: do a bit of research on it if you are keen to use it
[13:51] <ikonia> mcruz: what ?
[13:51] <MestreLion> rns: read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[13:51] <Aesthenaut> are you going to store ubuntu there or something? whats the idea? D:
[13:52] <mcruz> kernel PAE
[13:52] <sipior> mcruz: you should probably learn to read better.
[13:52] <ikonia> mcruz: what about it ?
[13:52] <MestreLion> rns: a simple google for "PAE wikipipedia" would solve that :P
[13:52] <ikonia> rns: the wikipedia link is actually quite a good introduction
[13:52] <ikonia> I've referenced it a few times
[13:53] <mcruz> apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[13:53] <MestreLion> quoting it: "The Linux kernel includes full PAE mode support starting with version 2.3.23,[7] enabling access of up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit machines"
[13:53] <ikonia> mcruz: what areyou talking about ?
[13:53] <rns> ikonia, MestreLion thanks for the info.  Will 64 bit speed things up any faster than just using PAE?
[13:53] <ikonia> mcruz: are you actually following the conversation we are having or just throwing random things in ?
[13:53] <rns> or are there any added benefits?
[13:53] <ku> hello?
[13:53] <ikonia> rns: using large memory addresses, it will be more efficient, faster to the naked eye, nah
[13:53] <MestreLion> rns: that depends a LOT on the tasks you will use... some will REALLY benefit from 64, some won't
[13:53] <sipior> rns: PAE is a hack. if you have a 64-bit platform, use a 64-bit operating system.
[13:54] <rns> sipior, ikonia MestreLion is it possible to upgrade from 32 bit 10.04 to 64 bit without losing my data?
[13:54] <ikonia> rns: no, not upgrade, re-install yes
[13:54] <c704710> The developer of Hardcore Tactical Shooter has ask me (?for some reason?) to let Linux users know he wants their feedback.
[13:55] <rns> ikonia, reinstall implies loss of data?
[13:55] <ikonia> c704710: what ?
[13:55] <mcruz> ikonia you can reinstall and preserve all your packets
[13:55] <ikonia> rns: not if you do it right
[13:55] <rns> ikonia, what do you mean?
[13:55] <ikonia> mcruz: I know, can you please start following the conversation and READING what people are saying
[13:55] <MestreLion> sipior: it is not that simple... I have an old netbook, veeery limited hardware, Atom N450 CPU... it is  a 64-bit capable CPU... but I think it is overkill to use a 64bit OS
[13:55] <mcruz> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > pack
[13:55] <deicon> guys i have  a question
[13:55] <ikonia> rns: if you backup parts of your data, or use a seperate partition layout for important areas such as /home - you can re-install and keep your information in tact
[13:55] <sipior> MestreLion: no, it isn't overkill.
[13:55] <mcruz> then dpkg --set-selections < pack
[13:55] <mcruz> dselect install
[13:55] <ikonia> mcruz: look - stop, if you cannot follow the conversation and offer sane advice, you are not going to help
[13:56] <sipior> MestreLion: it's 2012. let's move on.
[13:56] <deicon> iam using ubuntu 10.04 and i cant make a bootable image for windows 7
[13:56] <c704710> so, http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/355932838/crowdsourced-hardcore-tactical-shooter, please proceed to feedback
[13:56] <MestreLion> sipior: 64-bit OSes use a LOT more RAM... for a desktop with 8GB, this is irrelevant... for a 1GB netbook, it is not
[13:56] <ikonia> c704710: please don't spam that sort of things in here
[13:56] <Fyodorovna> deicon, you have the ISO?
[13:56] <havard> hello
[13:56] <ikonia> c704710: it's a technical support channel only.
[13:56] <deicon> Fyodorovna: yes
[13:56] <jordan4ibanez> c704710: ubuntu-offtopic
[13:56] <sipior> MestreLion: it's 2012. let's move on.
[13:57] <Fyodorovna> deicon, from where?
[13:57] <almoxarife> rns: save your /home folder, re-install with 64bit, assuming you can, move the pertinent parts of the backed up /home to the new /home, and then enjoy the increased speed of 64bit, I was amazed how much faster it really was.
[13:57] <MestreLion> sipior: it's 2012... but my netbook is still 2010... and it is a weak hardware... with no visible benefit from  64 arch
[13:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna: i downloaded it but the iso isnt the problem i have done it before
[13:57] <c704710> ikonia sorry, what channel should I use for requesting feedback from Linux users (?spam?)?
[13:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna: idk now what i cant
[13:57] <MestreLion> sipior: for ALL other cases, i fully agree with you
[13:57] <jordan4ibanez> mestrelion then install 32 bit
[13:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna: why
[13:58] <Fyodorovna> deicon, only one legit ISO download I know of without it's idetification I can't really help.
[13:58] <jordan4ibanez> 64 bit is to utilize ram..if you dont have alot of  it..then there is nothing to utilize
[13:58] <jordan4ibanez> aka..use 32 bit
[13:58] <deicon> Fyodorovna: i use unetbootin but it doesnt work
[13:58] <Fyodorovna> *identification
[13:58] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: me and sipior are giving suggestions to rns about 32 vs 64, PAE, etc
[13:59] <compdoc> 64 bit is also a bit faster
[13:59] <jordan4ibanez> well 32 bit doesnt utilize anything ..64 bit is better when you have more memory..i have 8 gigs and i usually peak at 1 gig when playing games..64 bit stores more data in ram for faster access
[13:59] <deicon> Fyodorovna: it is legit i have the serial number when i buy it
[13:59] <MestreLion> rns: how much RAM do you have? and how modern is your system (in terms of hardware)
[13:59] <Fyodorovna> deicon, from where did you download it?
[14:00] <rns> MestreLion, dell xps 64 bit cpu with 8 gigs ram
[14:00] <c704710> oh, ok, bye
[14:00] <almoxarife> if you have 64bit capability you should use it, this is why the baby jesus created 64bit
[14:00] <deicon> Fyodorovna: from torrentz.com cauz my previous cd didnt work so ..
[14:00] <jordan4ibanez> then use 64 bit! lmfao
[14:00] <MestreLion> rns: is it a desktop system we are talking about?
[14:00] <Fyodorovna> deicon, not legit that is a torrent sorry.
[14:00] <rns> MestreLion, currently using 32-bit PAE but not sure if the upgrade to 64-bit is worth it
[14:00] <rns> MestreLion, laptop
[14:00] <jordan4ibanez> it is worth it
[14:00] <jordan4ibanez> you can run 32 bit programs in 64 bit
[14:00] <MestreLion> wow, a laptop with 8GB ?? I envy you.. :D
[14:01] <deicon> Fyodorovna: pf
[14:01] <jordan4ibanez> 8gb is not that much
[14:01] <deicon> Fyodorovna: k
[14:01] <jordan4ibanez> i know..because i have it lol..we need 32 GIGS
[14:01] <almoxarife> rns: yes, worth it
[14:01] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: but it's not usual in a laptop... at least not in Brazil
[14:02] <rns> almoxarife, what added benefit would I get?
[14:02] <jordan4ibanez> oh..well in america we have laptops with 64 gb of ram
[14:02] <MestreLion> RAM veeery is cheap nowadays... but for some reason most laptops here ship with 2, 4...
[14:02] <nujabes> where is a good place to unpackage tarballs?
[14:02] <jordan4ibanez> to the /tmp
[14:02] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: I bet those are not mainstream, average joe notebooks
[14:02] <almoxarife> rns: people have been telling you here now for a while, I have nothing more to add, do as you please :)
[14:02] <jordan4ibanez> they are
[14:03] <jordan4ibanez> they're for gaming and video processing
[14:03] <nujabes> that's just a temp folder right?
[14:04] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: gaming and video processing in a notebook? that does not feel right... I mean.. serious gaming you need huge monitors, a decent keyboard, decent mouse, high-end video card... no point in doing that in a notebook
[14:04] <jordan4ibanez> nope..its a laptop not a notebook..but look here: https://www.system76.com/desktops/model/leopard this is amazing :D
[14:05] <jordan4ibanez> & those laptops are EXPENSIVE
[14:05] <ikonia> is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[14:05] <jordan4ibanez> yes actually
[14:05] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: what is the difference between laptop and notebook? Here they are almost synonims
[14:05] <ikonia> jordan4ibanez: ok, could you get to the point in #ubuntu support please.
[14:05] <quiescens> still arguing back and forth about 32bit or 64bit
[14:06] <jordan4ibanez> laptops = less battery more power notebook= lighter and less power
[14:06] <MestreLion> nah, quiescens ... we ALL agree that, for rns , 64-bit is the way to go, period
[14:06] <MestreLion> hands down the best option for him
[14:07] <jordan4ibanez> yep
[14:07] <rns> MestreLion, still not exactly sure what added benefits I will get
[14:07] <jordan4ibanez> faster speed
[14:07] <ikonia> rns: then you'll need to do some more research
[14:07] <rns> jordan4ibanez, from cpu?
[14:07] <ikonia> rns: if you check out the PAE wiki page you'll see some of it's limitations
[14:07] <MestreLion> now THAT is a sweet box, jordan4ibanez
[14:07]  * Star_Light away
[14:08] <jordan4ibanez> cpu, ram, video to ram speed, everything (except for hard disk if its not an ssd) will be sped up
[14:08] <tyler_d> MestreLion: meh, its not bad ;)
[14:08] <jordan4ibanez> mestrelion yes i know :D
[14:09] <tyler_d> jordan4ibanez: not in love with the machine as I think mine is still over and above... however am in love with the site; tyvm for sharing :D
[14:09] <MestreLion> jordan4ibanez: here in Brazil there is no clear distinction between notebooks and laptops... at least not a clear definition... not to confuse with NETbooks, like Asus EeePC
[14:09] <quiT> can i instal backtrack 5 on xubuntu 11.10 by c/p sources.list ?
[14:10] <MestreLion> quiT: maybe... why don't you ask #backtrack ?
[14:10] <quiT> no one answers
[14:10] <vikey> w
[14:10] <ikonia> quiT: no, you can't
[14:10] <ikonia> quiT: #backtrack-linux will tell you how to install backtrack
[14:10] <LucidGuy> Is it possible to registar a web ssl cert with a common name containing a wildcard?  *.domainname.com?
[14:11] <ikonia> LucidGuy: you need a wild card certficiate, very expensive
[14:11] <MestreLion> quiT:  maybe #xubuntu will be able to...
[14:11] <ikonia> MestreLion: no
[14:11] <LucidGuy> ikonia, hmm .. never new that existed.
[14:11] <ikonia> LucidGuy: $$
[14:11] <LucidGuy> ikonia, sounds dangerous
[14:11] <MestreLion> ikonia: sorry...
[14:12] <quiT> ok tnx to all ill try
[14:12] <MestreLion> LucidGuy: as in *.mywebsite.com ?
[14:12] <karthick87> Network connections were not starting automatically on every reboot. After starting it manually it is working fine
[14:13] <LucidGuy> MestreLion, yes .. a single wildcard for all hosts/sites of a domain.
[14:13] <tyler_d> karthick87: did it show as eth0 down? how did you make this determination?>
[14:13] <MestreLion> LucidGuy: as ikonia said, it's only dangerous to your pockets :P
[14:13] <LucidGuy> ikonia, MestreLion   RapidSSL has wildcart SSL certs for $199.
[14:14] <nujabes> what directory should i install a program in?
[14:14] <ikonia> LucidGuy: look at the protection level before buying, but this really isn't an ubuntu issue
[14:14] <MestreLion> looks like you already know the answer then...
[14:14] <ikonia> nujabes: the installer puts them in the right place for you
[14:14] <LucidGuy> ikonia, I know .. i just find many tek savvy individuals in here ...
[14:14] <almoxarife> spam
[14:14] <nujabes> iknoia, i'm using tarballs
[14:14] <Vooloo> I run chrome, and it says it should already have adobe flash installed, but visiting youtube it says its not. is this an exception for the linux version and I need to install manually anyway?
[14:14] <ikonia> nujabes: then you configure it where ever you want - I'd strongly advise you not to use a tarball install unless you %101 have to
[14:15] <ikonia> nujabes: what are you trying to install ?
[14:15] <ohs> my ubuntu goes to a black screen if there is no activity for 5 min or so, then I need to type my password to activate it again. how can I disable this option?
[14:15] <nujabes> iknoia, latest version of eclipse
[14:15] <jordan4ibanez> in the screensaver menu
[14:15] <MestreLion> nujabes: until you are more experienced with Ubuntu and Linux in general, we *strongly* recocmend you to stick with Software Center / PPAs / .debs. Do NOT install software otherwise, unless you really know what you're doing
[14:16] <sipior> nujabes: /usr/local is the canonical location for this sort of thing (/usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib &cet.)
[14:16] <nujabes> MestreLion, I'm using 10.10 and my repo doesn't have the latest version of eclipse
[14:16] <nujabes> sipior, thanks
[14:16] <MestreLion> nujabes: Eclipse is not a tarball... meaning it does not need to configure, build or install. It is a self-contained app
[14:17] <MestreLion> nujabes: you can extract to your home folder if you want to...
[14:17] <Error4o4> Hi, would it be safe to install KDE Plasma desktop beside the default ones, unity, gnome?
[14:17] <Xabster> What's a good quick-start thingy? I mean one that you get up by pressing eg. Super+space and lets you search for applications fast
[14:17] <Xabster> i guess it's a launch bar
[14:17] <Xabster> or what you could call it ...
[14:18] <nujabes> MestreLion, lol okay sry about my miss-use of the term "tarball"
[14:18] <karthick87> tyler_d: eth0 was up. But i was not able to ping any ip addresses.
[14:19] <rye> hello, anybody knows for sure whether suspending the laptop calls fsync/fdatasync on the filesystems?
[14:19] <MestreLion> nujabes: no problem, it is very common. "tarballs" are formally just like any other zip files. But, in Linux context, it usually means "source code that you configure, build and install"
[14:19] <m1chael> im trying to burn MPG movies to DVD. i've been getting a horrible skipping problem with NTSC, but if I create the DVD with PAL formatting, it seems to work fine.. anyone have any experience with this?
[14:20] <MestreLion> m1chael: what software are you using?
[14:20] <m1chael> ffmpeg, dvdauthor, and growisofs
[14:21] <quiescens> rye: i would have to guess it does unless someone dropped the ball
[14:21] <MestreLion> m1chael: have you tried reading their FAQs to know if this is a known / common issue?
[14:21] <m1chael> yes, not much info exists in terms of skipping
[14:22] <MestreLion> m1chael: because this sounds a lot like an app-especific issue
[14:23] <sipior> rye: interesting question. i believe the answer is no, based, for example, on this thread: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/817326
[14:23] <sipior> rye: you could conduct a little experiment with strace/ltrace, if you're so inclined :-)
[14:24] <Vooloo> how do I get git 1.7.1 in 10.04?
[14:24] <MestreLion> Vooloo: same way as any other "backport": look for an existing PPA, or compile it yourself
[14:25] <MestreLion> Vooloo: but.. why 1.7.1 ? git is already at 1.7.10
[14:25] <Vooloo> MestreLion: smartgit wants it
[14:25] <MestreLion> ... and smartgit is ?
[14:25] <sipior> rye: ah no, i'm being stupid. that thread references a power loss, not a suspend. still, an experiment would be interesting.
[14:26] <Vooloo> 1.7.1+ that is.. the one in ubuntu is <IP_ADDRESS> ... smartgit is a GUI
[14:27] <MestreLion> Vooloo: smartgit is not in the repos
[14:27] <nujabes> MestreLion, hey i put eclipse in my /home, but the terminal wont take the command "eclipse" so idk how to make a launcher
[14:28] <MestreLion> nujabes: you must either provide the full path to the launcher, OR copy / symlink the executable to somewhere in your $PATH
[14:29] <c3sso> hello
[14:29] <c3sso> I have a problem with /etc/sudoers
[14:29] <MestreLion> nujabes: where is the eclipse executable located?
[14:29] <c3sso> can somebody help?
[14:29] <LukeNukem> um
[14:29] <LukeNukem> spanish speaking guy
[14:29] <MestreLion> c3sso: just say the problem...
[14:29] <LukeNukem> you there? forget your name
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: #ubuntu+1 please.
[14:30] <nujabes> MestreLion, here the path /home/jon/bin/eclipse
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: that is where 12.04 support is
[14:30] <nujabes> i creat a bin folder
[14:30] <LukeNukem> mcruz quit?
[14:30] <MestreLion> /home/jon/bin/eclipse , you sure? or /home/jon/eclipse/bin/ ?
[14:30] <c3sso> just was there
[14:30] <c3sso> nobody seemed to know...
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: I know, so you need to wait for an answer, or log a bug
[14:30] <ikonia> c3sso: this channel doesn't support the beta products
[14:31] <LukeNukem> ikonia, mate can you tell me how to connect to adhoc network via terminal
[14:31] <coraxx> when I run "wine" in ubuntu 11.10 .... and move the mouse inside the desktop-window, wine freezes!! ... does n e body know why ? ...and how to fix?
[14:31] <c3sso> right if it was a bug, I
[14:31] <nujabes> MestreLion, well its really /home/jon/bin/eclipse/eclipse . I ran it by point and click
[14:31] <ikonia> LukeNukem: iwconfig
[14:31] <c3sso> I just thought maybe I am to dumb
[14:31] <MestreLion> nujabes: did it work ?
[14:31] <ikonia> c3sso: then wait in #ubuntu+1 for someone to work it through with you
[14:31] <MrHeat> Hi folks, quick question... i changed my kernel to virtual one... how to check if grub is correctly configured?
[14:31] <c3sso> well, ok
[14:32] <nujabes> MestreLion, yeah i'm just trying to crate a launcher
[14:32] <fanshouxiang> hi
[14:32] <nujabes> hate to have to go in there just to run it lol
[14:33] <fanshouxiang> #
[14:33] <MestreLion> nujabes: choosing your ~/bin folder to extract eclipse is not a good idea... you see, ~/bin is kind of a "special" folder... all executables you place there can be invoked directly via terminal, no need to use full path
[14:33] <Xabster> I installed the Cairo Dock and now the process-bar or task-bar or whatever it's called in GNOME is in the way - how do I remove it and/or what is it called?
[14:33] <dedywidya> hi
[14:34] <MestreLion> nujabes: on the other hand, it is a PERFECT place for you to copy (or better, symlink) the eclipse executable so you can launch eclipse by simply typing... "eclipse" :D
[14:34] <nujabes> MestreLion, well i made the bin folder in my home folder. is that a problem?
[14:35] <MestreLion> nujabes: no, not at all... actually, i would suggest you to do so
[14:35] <derek2> derek:  hello
[14:35] <MestreLion> nujabes: but don't extract the eclipse folder there
[14:35] <hans_> #oesterreich
[14:35] <MestreLion> nujabes: leave that dir to place only executables
[14:35] <derek> derek2: hello2
[14:36] <hans_> hi
[14:37] <MestreLion> nujabes: so, my suggestion? extract eclipse to ~/opt instead (meaning /home/jon/opt/eclipse), and then symlink the executable from there to ~/bin . Use this command: ln -s ~/opt/eclipse/eclipse ~/bin
[14:38] <nujabes> MestreLion, what's symlink?
[14:38] <MestreLion> nujabes: this way you will have the best of all worlds: your Eclipse install will be self-contained at /home/jon/opt/eclipse , you can use /home/jon/opt for other self-contained software you install in the future, AND you will be able to launch eclipse just typing eclipse, no need to give the full path
[14:39] <MestreLion> nujabes: symlink are... err.. man...
[14:39] <Pici> nujabes: they're *like* shortcuts
[14:39] <MestreLion> nujabes: think of them as "shortcuts" ...
[14:40] <nujabes> MestreLion, this sounds great thanks, i'll let you know if it work
[14:40] <MestreLion> but, unlike the .lnk files in Windows, symlinks are REAL shortcuts... they are "understood" anywhere in the OS... not only desktop, but terminal, inside software, etc
[14:41] <MestreLion> nujabes: so, for all intents and purposes, ~/bin/elipse will be the SAME as ~/opt/eclipse/eclipse
[14:41] <nujabes> MestreLion, lol i want to ask if they were like shortcut but i have making window references  on here
[14:42] <nujabes> MestreLion, oh i fallow ya
[14:42] <MestreLion> nujabes: if the references help, there is no problem. But... symlinks are MUCH better than window's shortcuts... much more powerful... you should really google about it... or read at wikipedia
[14:43] <meowsus> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome-shell. Sometimes randomly my left mouse button stops working and so does my keyboard. I can't get into the application dock (by moving my cursor to the top-left of the screen) but I can still move it and right click. Anyone have a similar problem or want to help me troubleshoot?
[14:43] <[Si]> MestreLion Windows supports Symbolic links too, mklink blah.txt c:\temp\blah.txt
[14:43] <nujabes> MestreLion, so do i have to make opt folder?
[14:43] <MestreLion> nujabes: and they are present for decades in Linux/Unix world, and heavily used
[14:43] <diverdude> When i try to run: sudo curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sh i get the error: Please try running this command again as root/Administrator. But I have already put sudo in front???
[14:44] <MestreLion> [Si]: humm, but that is a relatively recent NTFS feature... only on Vista onwards... and they have some serious restrictions
[14:44] <nujabes> MestreLion, just saved symbolic link wikipedia page, gona read it after this
[14:44] <Pici> diverdude: sudo does not pass across IO redirection operators.
[14:44] <nujabes> :)
[14:44] <MestreLion> [Si]: pre-vista, the best you could have are "junctions", with are dir-only symlinks... and only to the same filesystem
[14:44] <meowsus> diverdude, you might need it again after the pipe
[14:45] <[Si]> MestreLion this is 2012 ;) who uses vista
[14:45] <Pici> diverdude: so: curl whatever | sudo sh    would work (although you you should be aware that this might potentially be dangerous, running unknown scripts etc)
[14:45] <meowsus> diverdude, Pici is right
[14:45] <MestreLion> nujabes: yes, create the ~/opt folder... for now, you will only have eclipse... but in the future, might be useful for other self-contained apps you might choose to install
[14:45] <[Si]> diverdude ans pici says download the script first, look at it in an editor and check it's not doing anything horrid.
[14:46] <MestreLion> [Si]: this is 2012... which Windows users know what is mklink or junctions ?
[14:46] <mgaunard_> I'm looking for gcc 4.7 packages for ubuntu 11.10
[14:46] <mgaunard_> how come I can't find any?
[14:47] <nujabes> MestreLion, okay ~/opt made and ready. now i put ~/opt/eclipse ?
[14:47] <MestreLion> nujabes: also, make SURE eclipse's executable is really at ./eclipse/eclipse (are you sure it is not ./eclipse/bin/eclipse ?)
[14:47] <[Si]> MestreLion true true, Linux is where it's at :)
[14:48] <here4thegear> I'm running ubuntu in a virtual machine as a test/web env... I have a symlink connected to /media/sf_www and that is owned by root:vboxsf... When I try to go to my website in my environment (which I've easily done before doing this symlink) I get "forbidden"... Is there any issue with chowning /media/sf_www to www-data:www-data?
[14:48] <nujabes> MestreLion, yep there's no bin folder is side
[14:48] <meowsus> So I guess no one wants to help me troubleshoot why my left mouse button and keyboard become unresponsive sometimes...
[14:48] <MestreLion> meowsus: or maybe no one knows *how* to help you
[14:48] <Zaitzev> if I want to completely remove/uninstall a program, with all its configurations, dependencies and other files that will no longer be in use, what do I do?
[14:48] <meowsus> MestreLion, MAYbe everyone hates me!
[14:49]  * meowsus cries millions of tears
[14:49] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, what release are you using?
[14:49] <meowsus> 11.10
[14:49] <meowsus> with gnome-shell
[14:49] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: 2 things: sudo apt-get purge <package> , and also delete the package's config dir in your home folder (if any)
[14:49] <meowsus> I realize that my keyboard doesn't actually become unresponsive, because i can still hit Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down to switch screens.
[14:50] <nujabes> MestreLion, okay step two. how do i crate symlink?
[14:50] <meowsus> But I can't hit the super key or go to the top left of the screen to access the gnome-shell dock. Makes me think that this is a gnome-shell bug...
[14:50] <here4thegear> better yet, is there a way to open a file to view by any and everybody?
[14:50] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, I see it on occasion with the development rarely with 11.10, but in the gnome-shell as that's what I default to now, not sure why it hapens though.
[14:50] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: your user prefs are are usually located at ~/.package or ~/.config/package
[14:50] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: So purge will uninstall and remove every association with the program? And then a manual delete of the config-dir afterwards?
[14:50] <meowsus> Fyodorovna, how do you get around it?
[14:51] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: What if said program has dependencies also used by other programs, will they also be removed or remain?
[14:51] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: purge will delete the software and all *system-wise*  configuration. But it's up to you to delete the *personal* configuration
[14:51] <Zaitzev> I understand
[14:52] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, I have a conky so I look to see if the cpu and or the gpu are maxed. In the development I have has to reisub softshutdown with 11.10 it seems to resolve after a short time, but rarely happens in 11.10.
[14:52] <Fyodorovna> s/has=had
[14:52] <Zaitzev> Mestre: The thing is, yesterday I installed lubuntu-desktop, and it was a ~400 MB download (a lot of extra stuff I assume), and the login screen has changed to Lubuntu. And I don't like it.
[14:52] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: and dependencies will not be removed, UNLESS they A) were installed *because* of that package and B) no other package depends on it
[14:53] <[Si]> here4thegear have you got "Options FollowSymLinks" in your apache config?
[14:53] <nujabes> MestreLion, thanks I made the smylink with the command you gave
[14:53] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: use TAB to autocomplete my name... without highlight, I might miss your lines
[14:53] <sdd> hi
[14:53] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: I know, I thought I had autocomplete on, wanted to test ;)
[14:53] <sdd> need help
[14:53] <sdd> pleaaseeeee
[14:54] <sdd> where help
[14:54] <bazhang> sdd, ask a question then
[14:54] <here4thegear> [Si]: will check... is that different than having it in virtualhost file in apache2/sites-available/default
[14:54] <sdd> ok
[14:54] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: What I really want to do is sort of clean up the system, remove crap I never ever use, without affecting system stability
[14:54] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: you can change the default session before you login. Don't like LXDE? Just log in in Unity, don't need to remove LXDE
[14:54] <sdd> my question is
[14:54] <TheRedOctober> Hi all. I have an 11.04 desktop that is using 3GB of swap, but the chrome, the highest mem usage process, is using only about 500MB. What gives? this machine is doing nothing, vm.swappiness=0, but swap usage is through the roof. mem leak somewhere I cannot find?
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> hi there
[14:54] <sdd> is sb here who can help me
[14:54] <sdd> my question is
[14:54] <bazhang> sdd, ask your question all on one line
[14:54] <sdd> ok
[14:55] <caf4926> sdd: heavens sake man
[14:55] <sdd> my question is who can help me
[14:55] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: Oh, I'm logging into Ubuntu Unity, but the login screen used to be the Ubuntu one, now it's Lubuntu. And I have to type in both username and password now..annoying to say the least.
[14:55] <bemasc> How can I add my university's (unofficial) mirror to the list of available package mirrors?
[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> I discovered that there is xchat in the software center and thus I installed it, and freenode here was preset with port 8001, is that OK or should I switch it back to 6667?
[14:55] <bazhang> sdd, thats not an actual ubuntu support question
[14:55] <sdd> ah okkay
[14:55] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: delete the same package you installed... all the other packages that were installed as dependencies will be automatically removed too if no other package depends on it
[14:55] <abhinavmehta> I want to read and store every script pasted over pastebin.com, how can I do that..?
[14:55] <[Si]> here4thegear if you want apache to follow your symbolic links you'll need that in the Dirconfig for your site.
[14:55] <sdd> then my question is
[14:55] <bazhang> Lunar_Lander, for use with ssl?
[14:55] <Zaitzev> bemasc: /etc/apt/sources.list I assume
[14:55] <sdd> who is there to support me
[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> bazhang, just for normal operation
[14:55] <sdd> i am using linux
[14:56] <bazhang> sdd, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <shomon> hi, I'm trying to burn an iso to a usb key - do I just do write to disk?
[14:56] <bazhang> sdd actual support questions here
[14:56] <sdd> i am using in ubuntu
[14:56] <bazhang> shomon, use unetbootin for that
[14:56] <shomon> thanks
[14:56] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: Yeah that sounds logical. Is there a way to see WHAT the package did install? In case I want to keep a couple of things (or reinstall separately)
[14:56] <sdd> 11.94 i use
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> bazhang, as I said FreeNode was in the server list already and had that port as well
[14:56] <adom> hi all
[14:56] <here4thegear> [Si]: yeah, in it's on for all directories in my virtual host file
[14:56] <bazhang> sdd and you have yet to ask a question, so please stop the nonsense
[14:56] <adom> got a 4GB USB flash drive that's giving me errors when I try to reformat it. "Read-Only filesystem" I don't need to keep the data on it, just want to reformat it for normal everyday use. what should my next step be?
[14:56] <bemasc> Zaitzev: That's not quite what I mean.  Synaptic offers a long list of mirrors.  I want to add one to that list.  I've been grep'ing my hard drive but I can't figure out where the list is stored.
[14:56] <Vooloo> I run chrome, and it says it should already have adobe flash installed, but visiting youtube it says its not. is this an exception for the linux version and I need to install manually anyway?
[14:56] <sdd> i use 11.94
[14:56] <waxstone> efq;neoprigoogle.comgoogle.com
[14:56] <philinux> shomon: Is that an ubuntu iso?
[14:57] <sdd> ok
[14:57] <newbiedelznufus> hello, Im running ubuntu 11.10 (oneric oscelot unity) should I upgrade to the 12.04 beta? advantages? disadvantages? any input is appreciated :]
[14:57] <[Si]> here4thegear check the error log file /var/log/apache2/error.log it should give you more idea of what's causing the 403 error.
[14:57] <sdd> i use ubuntu  11.94
[14:57] <meowsus> Fyodorovna, yeah, I've noticed it only twice, but I was curioius. I gotta get conky back on this machine. Thanks so much!
[14:57] <caf4926> sdd: you mean 11.04
[14:57] <bazhang> newbiedelznufus, wait for release
[14:58] <bazhang> sdd there is no such version
[14:58] <newbiedelznufus> ok thanks
[14:58] <sdd> no@i mean 11.94
[14:58] <sdd> or 11.10
[14:58] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: humm, good question... I'm sure there is , but I don't know how. You might check Synaptic or Aptitude for that. I know where you can see the dependencies list of a given package, but that will only tell you what the package requires, not what was actually pulled (because you may had already installed one of the depencies)
[14:58] <caf4926> sdd: how old are you
[14:58] <Fyodorovna> meowsus, no problem hope you get it resolved. :)
[14:58] <nujabes> MestreLion, it didn't work in the terminal :( , but the smylink works :)
[14:58] <sdd> ?
[14:58] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Have a look here> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412
[14:58] <sdd> ok 11.10
[14:58] <sdd> it is
[14:59] <MestreLion> nujabes: the symlink works? great! now log out and back in... and the terminal will work ;)
[14:59] <bazhang> !enter | sdd
[14:59] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Or have a chat in #ubuntu+1
[14:59] <here4thegear> [Si]: hah, it says Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible... where else do I need to turn that on other than in the <virtualhost>... maybe php.ini?
[14:59] <newbiedelznufus> thanks philinux
[14:59] <sdd> ok well i wanthave gnome2
[14:59] <sdd> in 11.10
[14:59] <newbiedelznufus> im pretty much a begginer, couple more questions. :]
[14:59] <nujabes> MestreLion, yeah!!! thanks
[14:59] <bazhang> !notunity | sdd
[14:59] <Zaitzev> MestreLion: I think I read somewhere that you can look at synaptic history or something like that. It's not that important, really. Thanks for your help! :)
[15:00] <sdd> noooooooo gnome2
[15:00] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: for the dependencies list, right-click a package in Synaptic, or use apt-cache show <package>
[15:00] <Myrtti> sdd: you can't.  Might be really useful.
[15:00] <bazhang> sdd no cursing
[15:00] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: yes... File > History
[15:00] <sdd> i hate
[15:00] <sdd> th
[15:01] <FloodBot1> sdd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <newbiedelznufus> Anyone use "cairo dock"?  Does open gl w/animation slow the cpu down a lot?
[15:01] <sdd> ok but no gnome2
[15:01] <Fyodorovna> sdd, exactly
[15:01] <sdd> i loved it...
[15:01] <caf4926> sdd: it's gone!!
[15:01] <Myrtti> sdd: it's not developed by the Gnome project developers and it's not supported by them either, no security updates. They've moved to Gnome3
[15:01] <sdd> now only this shit ubu
[15:01] <nujabes> MestreLion, worked and youre awesome
[15:01] <sdd> unity
[15:01] <bazhang> !ot | sdd
[15:01] <philinux> sdd:  or you can have this > http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/use-classic-menu-in-unity-classicmenu.html
[15:01] <Myrtti> sdd: mind the language, or you will be removed again
[15:01] <MestreLion> Zaitzev: but neither show nor history is exactly what you want..
[15:01] <Hexadron> Hi
[15:01] <Fyodorovna> !language | sdd
[15:02] <sdd> ok
[15:02] <TheRedOctober> Anyone? memory usage 11%, swap usage 100%, no real reason, my top looks like this http://pastebin.com/uNmGXHic . Why is xorg using 1GB of swap? Why is everything using swap and no RAM?
[15:02] <bittin> Hi
[15:02] <MestreLion> nujabes: glad to know :D
[15:02] <Myrtti> bittin: hello
[15:02] <Hexadron> Do you speak czech?
[15:02] <sdd> i am depressed
[15:02] <MestreLion> one more happy customer... I should get a raise :P
[15:02] <bazhang> Hexadron, #ubuntu-cz for that
[15:02] <bittin> yo Myrtti
[15:02] <sdd> some other distro which supports gnome2
[15:02] <bittin> Hexadron: no
[15:02] <TheRedOctober> sdd: debian 6
[15:02] <ikonia> sdd: 10.04 supports gnome2
[15:02] <here4thegear> [Si]: no. and that's the problem... I can't chown the target folder because it's owned by root:vboxsf and vbox won't let me chown it... so how can I go about giving apache the ability to rw to items owned by root:vboxsf ?
[15:02] <Hexadron> Very thanks bazhang
[15:02] <newbiedelznufus> also whats the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu 2d at login?
[15:02] <bazhang> sdd thats offtopic here. lets move on
[15:03] <sdd> ok
[15:03] <sdd> can i report a bug
[15:03] <sdd> in launchpad?
[15:03] <Myrtti> sdd: they all are moving to Gnome3 apart from some fringe distros that are trying to keep on developing it with a new team
[15:03] <bazhang> newbiedelznufus, one is less resource intensive
[15:03] <Myrtti> sdd: about what?
[15:03] <TheRedOctober> sdd: that would be where you do it.
[15:03] <MestreLion> sdd: Linux Mint supports MATE, which is a gnome2 fork...
[15:03] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Unity is the 3d version using compiz
[15:03] <sdd> about unity
[15:03] <LMX> which file should be edited for gnome panel properties/launcher properties? can anyone please help?
[15:03] <ikonia> sdd: if you find a bug with it, sure
[15:03] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Sorry meant the ubuntu option is ^^
[15:04] <sdd> i already found. it is called unity
[15:04] <AndyUbuntu> afternoon everyone
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> i assume ubuntu 2d is the less resource intensive choice?
[15:04] <Vooloo> is it possible to get nautilus to search contents of PDF files?
[15:04] <philinux> newbiedelznufus: Correct
[15:04] <[Si]> here4thegear that's a share from the virtual box host? I think you'd be better off using NFS or CIFS to share the folder *from* the web server to your other PCs
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> great. (ollllld pc)
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> but ubuntu runs great
[15:04] <newbiedelznufus> thanks guys
[15:04] <MestreLion> nice move ikonia
[15:05] <gwidion_> moin!
[15:05] <AndyUbuntu> im just using gnome shell on ubuntu 11.10 and its says that all of my extensions are not compatible with this version of gnome shell. does anyone know why this could be?
[15:05] <here4thegear> [Si]: I will try it that way... thanks, good suggestion
[15:05] <caf4926> *thinks there as some complete plokers about today and need kicking
[15:05] <AndyUbuntu> I have the default theme installed and am not able to change it
[15:05] <dekuked> hey does ubuntu support the new open source ontario drivers?
[15:05] <gwidion_> I am about to buy a new desktop computer, and I'd like to know how is the support for video on newer chipsets -
[15:06] <caf4926> gwidion_: take a live cd to the store and ask if you can boot it
[15:06] <gwidion_> how is (k)ubuntu 11.10 and the rpeleases of 12.04 working with intel Z68  motherboars and integated graphics
[15:06] <gwidion_> caf4926: I intend to have it custom built- it is better for upper range machinnes where I live.
[15:07] <[Si]> here4thegear if it's windows that you want to share to this will open it to everyone on your network "sudo apt-get install samba" then "net usershare add wwwstffs /path/to/wwwstuffs Everyone:f guest_ok=y"
[15:07] <caf4926> gwidion_: most integrated work well
[15:07] <gwidion_> I could not find any web references to either ubuntu, or jst the kernel working with the z68 chipset.
[15:07] <gwidion_> caf4926: Any idea if the 3D support is ok?
[15:07] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know why it would say the gnome shell extensions are not compatible?
[15:07] <gwidion_> (it woudl use intel's sandy bridge CPU.
[15:08] <ubuntu> Hi, I am try having issues with both operating system on my hard disk. Things I have done are a MEM test to rule that out. And now I am on a live disc trying to do a filesystem check on /dev/sda but always says it is busy
[15:08] <compdoc> I have a z68, but not running Ubuntu
[15:08] <mneptok> gwidion_: in general, Intel graphics have better Linux mainline kernel support than other vendors. but stuff takes time to get merged, and Ubuntu draws from stable kernel source, so stuff that less than 6 months old may not have landed in Ubuntu yet.
[15:08] <compdoc> ubuntu, open the Disk Util and look at the SMART data
[15:08] <MestreLion> nice move ikonia
[15:09] <gwidion_> compdoc: nice to know - my main interest is to know if I can have acelerated 3d video in a recent linux distro
[15:09] <ubuntu> compdoc: the drive is not mounted either.
[15:09] <compdoc> ubuntu, dont need to mount it to look at SMART
[15:09] <gwidion_> mneptok: It is about 1 year old now. Is tehre a place (changelog on the web, etc) where I could check for that?
[15:10] <ubuntu> compdoc: and the live disc is kde flavor
[15:10] <ubuntu> compdoc: so command line would be better
[15:11] <compdoc> there isnt a kde disk util? then the command:   sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[15:11] <compdoc> or whatever drive
[15:11] <mneptok> gwidion_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=z68+intel+linux
[15:12] <shomon> what is the best way to get unetbootin? I downloaded it from sourceforge but still trying to get this executable to work
[15:12] <zlatkojov> Q: I have Line6 guitar port (external sound card). I have installed line6 usb linux driver - properly. Card works when plugged in after Ubuntu 11.10 started. However Line6 connected before copmuter startup causes kernel panic. Any ideas?
[15:12] <shomon> maybe best via apt?
[15:12] <bazhang> shomon, are you on ubuntu now? it's in the repos
[15:12] <MestreLion> ubuntu: you say the disk is always busy when you try filesystem tools? Then open a terminal and type "mount" and paste the results here... it should give some clues *where* it is mounted to
[15:12] <shomon> yes - ah will try
[15:12] <AndyUbuntu> ok does anyone know a good repository for gnome shell extensions?
[15:12] <ikonia> zlatkojov: I suspect it's a bug with that module, just plug it in after the machine boots
[15:13] <shomon> sorry should have tias
[15:13] <ubuntu> MestreLion: it is not mounted
[15:13] <ikonia> zlatkojov: as I recall on this line6 provide it as a closed source drop in module
[15:13] <melvincv> Any way to run Stronghold Kingdoms on Ubuntu? I've tried wine, no luck, steam is fine but stronghold keeps crashing and restarting...
[15:13] <MestreLion> ubuntu: and who says it's "busy" ?
[15:13] <zlatkojov> Ikonia: Oh my God! Would I have to plug in/out on every startup!?
[15:13] <ikonia> melvincv: please don't cross post
[15:13] <ikonia> zlatkojov: it'a usb card isnt it ?
[15:14] <zlatkojov> yes it is
[15:14] <Xabster> Does Ubuntu 11.10 come with an FTP-server? If not, can you recommend one?
[15:14] <compdoc> melvincv,  Stronghold Kingdoms is a Windows game?
[15:14] <ikonia> zlatkojov: not excatly a massive issue to just unplug/plug in
[15:14] <MestreLion> melvincv: try to see if there are any wine custom settings for that game in #wine-hq , or PlayOnLinux
[15:15] <c3sso> how can I add annother sorting category to the file-open dialog
[15:15] <c3sso> ?
[15:15] <melvincv> ikonia, you mean in many channels at once?
[15:15] <[Si]> there's an open source driver here http://sourceforge.net/projects/line6linux/
[15:15] <melvincv> Compdoc, yes
[15:16] <zlatkojov> ikonia: thanks - at least we clarified the problem. I check with Markus (person who wrote driver) is there any way to fix this bug...
[15:16] <MestreLion> Xabster: there are many in the repos. Try FileZilla
[15:16] <Xabster> I got filezilla, but that's the client I think
[15:16] <melvincv> MestreLion, thanks. I'll try that.
[15:16] <Pici> MestreLion, Xabster: Filezilla does not have a ftp server for Linux, only a client.
[15:16] <compdoc> melvincv, for the best windows graphics on linux, your best bet is Virtualbox
[15:16] <Xabster> Yeah, thanks
[15:17] <Xabster> I need a server :)
[15:17] <mneptok> Xabster: why FTP?
[15:17] <Xabster> What do you suggest?
[15:17] <mneptok> (here we go again)
[15:17] <mneptok> SFTP
[15:17] <mneptok> Xabster: will every user you expect to connect via FTP also have a Unix account on the system?
[15:17] <deicon> guys how can i mount a usb drive
[15:17] <melvincv> he he, that game crashed on XP SP3 on Virtualbox too.
[15:18] <MestreLion> Xabster: there is vsftpd
[15:18] <Xabster> mneptok, no, none of them will
[15:18] <mneptok> Xabster: so you'll have anonymous access and such.
[15:18] <MestreLion> deicon: usually, just plugging it in
[15:18] <Xabster> I plan on making a simple 1-user account setup and give it to those who need it, mneptok
[15:19] <Xabster> I dislike the anonymous way
[15:19] <deicon> MestreLion: doesnt work
[15:19] <mneptok> Xabster: oh, then SFTP is the way to go.
[15:19] <mneptok> Xabster: PM?
[15:19] <Xabster> sure
[15:20] <melvincv> compdoc, it gives me a directx error. I have  Intel G33 chipset on the host system.
[15:20] <MestreLion> deicon: what kind of usb drive?
[15:20] <deicon> MestreLion: toshiba usb 2.0
[15:21] <MestreLion> deicon: just to rule out hardware issues: have you tested in another OS / System ?
[15:21] <deicon> MestreLion: yes and worked fine
[15:22] <shaneo> anyone in here play uplink if so how do i get it to re-install to my system the ppa gives me a 404 error everytime
[15:22] <MestreLion> was it the same machine?
[15:22] <deicon> MestreLion: yes
[15:23] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know where i can get the latest versions of gnome shell extensions?
[15:23] <AndyUbuntu> much appreciated
[15:23] <samsamsupersam> is there a way to use the mouse as a joystick? i want to play xwing vs tie fighter, but no joystick
[15:23] <MestreLion> deicon: install pastebinit package, and then please run dmesg | grep usb | pastebinit
[15:23] <dlentz> shaneo, check /var/cache/apt/archives, the package may still be there
[15:23] <MestreLion> post the URL here
[15:24] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html
[15:24] <AndyUbuntu> thanks shaneo
[15:24] <shaneo> np
[15:25] <deicon> MestreLion:  you mean dmesg | tail -n 16 ?
[15:25] <ubuntu> Mech0z: that was strange computer rebooted while on live disc too
[15:25] <shaneo> dlentz, no its not there
[15:25] <melvincv> Oh, I guess the trouble with graphics card access for Virtualbox is my CPU does not support Intel VT. No chance of h/w direct access without that, right?
[15:25] <Mech0z> ubuntu ?
[15:25] <Mech0z> think you miss typed
[15:26] <MestreLion> deicon: tail -n 16 is not enough
[15:26] <ubuntu> Mech0z: was nt I talking to you before?
[15:26] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, this was the reop i was using beofe, it keeps saying that versions are not compatible :S
[15:26] <ubuntu> maybe it was MestreLion
[15:26] <Mech0z> ubuntu nope I havent used IRC today
[15:26] <ubuntu> ok
[15:26] <MestreLion> deicon: it will only show the last 16 event lines... which may or may not be related to your usb drive...
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> have you come across this before/
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> ?
[15:27] <deicon> MestreLion:  but i didnt get nothing from this
[15:27] <ubuntu> how so I output dmesg directly to a pastebin page?
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> im sure they are all up to date
[15:27] <MestreLion> deicon: dmesg | grep usb does not show anything at al?!?!
[15:27] <AndyUbuntu> just dont know why I am not able to use them
[15:28] <MestreLion> ubuntu: installing the pastebinit package and then piping any ommand output to it
[15:28] <deicon> MestreLion:  no
[15:28] <bemasc> Zaitzev: used grep; turns out the answer is "/usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors"
[15:28] <ubuntu> MestreLion: so dmesg | pastebinit
[15:28] <deicon> ap
[15:28] <deicon> MestreLion:  wrong
[15:29] <deicon> MestreLion: i ll give you the link
[15:29] <MestreLion> ubuntu: that will paste ALL your dmesg log.. which might be very big
[15:29] <JesseC> Does anybody have experience with Likewise Open / Beyondtrust PBIS?
[15:29] <deicon> MestreLion: http://pastebin.com/AcMDYi0E
[15:29] <grendal-prime> ok i have a netbook and sometimes (with some applications) the dialog boxes or program themsefls just dont fit on the screen
[15:29] <ubuntu> MestreLion: how would I know what section I want if I dont know what the issue is?
[15:29] <mun24> I lost root passwprd
[15:30] <grendal-prime> on my aspire i can soom away from the desktop and reposition the windo then zoom back in on it.
[15:30] <grendal-prime> what is that called...i though it was desktop switcher..
[15:31] <droid-0854> Ubuntu, dmesg | cat > file.name
[15:31] <MestreLion> ubuntu: what is your issue?
[15:31] <mun24> I tried to reset root password in recovery mode. But that passsword works only in recovery mode
[15:31] <ikonia> mun24: the root password is locked by default
[15:32] <ubuntu> MestreLion: computer reboots upon boot
[15:32] <ikonia> mun24: you should not be changing it
[15:32] <ikonia> mun24: ubuntu uses "sudo" as an authentication model
[15:33] <droid-0854> You can use.   sudo sh   to open a shell
[15:33] <MestreLion> deicon: [ 5155.160311] usb 1-2: device descriptor read/all, error -71 that looks suspitious
[15:33] <ubuntu> MestreLion: I thought it was a / hd issue because it does it on windows too. Also did a mem test too
[15:33] <deicon> MestreLion: everything look suspicious
[15:33] <ubuntu> MestreLion: /dev/sda contains windows and ubuntu /
[15:34] <deicon> MestreLion: looks :P
[15:34] <droid-0854> Ubuntu,  could be power supply
[15:34] <mun24> ikonia: Then how can I recover root password
[15:34] <ikonia> mun24: you do'nt need to
[15:34] <ikonia> mun24: you use "sudo" to perform root actions
[15:34] <ikonia> mun24: the root password does not exist by default
[15:34] <deicon> MestreLion: its just the name lol
[15:34] <ubuntu> droid-0854: ya I thought that now that it did it on the livedisc too
[15:34] <MestreLion> deicon: now unplug it, replug it, and run dmesg | tail -n 50 | pastebinit
[15:34] <deicon> MestreLion: of the usb
[15:34] <compdoc> ubuntu, did you try smartctl as I suggected?
[15:34] <compdoc> suggested
[15:35] <AaronCampbell> Why does compiz always show it's using something like 60-70% cpu (via top)?  Is there something specific that I have going that might be causing this?  Could it be because I have several (4) monitors?
[15:35] <mun24> ikonia: I have 2 users in that. I am able to reset in recovery mode but unable to login normally with them
[15:36] <deicon> MestreLion: http://pastebin.com/KFmptUcs
[15:36] <rogst> mun24:do you login from the console or over ssh?
[15:36] <mun24> console
[15:37] <CharminTheMoose> Doesn't sudo as an authentication model to do root tasks break any kind of security in a multi-user environment? I mean, if a regular user can just 'sudo apt-get' stuff, it could wreak havoc if the user is malicious.
[15:37] <deicon> MestreLion: how can i mount the usb to a mountpoint
[15:37] <rogst> mun24: have you tried to use sudo -s and change password for root?
[15:37] <sipior> CharminTheMoose: that's why only the initial user is added to /etc/sudoers to begin with.
[15:37] <NSNO> CharminTheMoose: don't add the user to the sudoers group..
[15:38] <ikonia> rogst: no !
[15:38] <ikonia> there is no need to change/set the root users password
[15:38] <ikonia> mun24: what is the name of the user you cannot login with
[15:38] <sipior> CharminTheMoose: sudo actually allows for a broad range of actions and controls for superuser privilege; it's not an all-or-nothing affair.
[15:38] <mun24> normal user
[15:38] <MestreLion> deicon: ok, it is correctly recognized as sdb1, this is good... let's see if it's not already mounted somewhere: mount | pastebinit
[15:39] <rogst> ikonia: I know there should not be a need for it but perhaps he want to enable the root account
[15:39] <CharminTheMoose> True, sipior. I guess I was thinking about the initial user.
[15:39] <sipior> CharminTheMoose: for example, a user could be permitted to run a small, carefully-selected number of programs as root.
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> the model for security that I use, is that ssh logins are not permitted via passwords, only via ssh keys. Then the users password, in effect becomes a "personal root password".
[15:39] <MestreLion> deicon: also, install disc utility from software center and see if it gives any relevant info.
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> (if they have sudo rights)
[15:40] <deicon> MestreLion: http://pastebin.com/J5Kb9D7X
[15:40] <deicon> MestreLion: its installed
[15:40] <grendal-prime> Pumpkin-, basicall, you copy your key up to the server then sudo as the user and add that key to the /root/.ssh/authorized_keys file right?
[15:40] <Pumpkin-> no
[15:41] <deicon> MestreLion: when i try to mount it from disk utility it says that Daemon is inhibited
[15:41] <MestreLion> deicon: is gparted running?
[15:42] <MestreLion> deicon: some utilities, like gparted, inhibit auto-mounting of usb drives...
[15:42] <droid-0854> G
[15:43] <droid-0854> ...
[15:43] <droid-0854> ..cz
[15:43] <MestreLion> deicon: usually, just closing the app and re-plugging the hdd is enough for it to auto-mount and show in nautilus
[15:43] <deicon> MestreLion: i tried with g parted on or off
[15:44] <deicon> MestreLion: okay i mounted it
[15:44] <MestreLion> deicon: close gparted, replug hdd, open disk utility. Still "Daemon is inhibited" ?
[15:44] <deicon> MestreLion: okay fixed
[15:44] <MestreLion> how?
[15:45] <deicon> MestreLion: lol i believed that gparted is off but it was on
[15:45] <deicon> MestreLion: so many windows
[15:45] <MestreLion> lol ;)
[15:45] <MestreLion> does it auto-mount now when plugged?
[15:46] <deicon> MestreLion: wait
[15:46] <AndyUbuntu> just realise the gnome-shell extensions are not working in the latest version of gnome-shell(3.3) has anyone come across this also?
[15:46] <MestreLion> you shouldn't be required to maually mount any usb drives, altought you always can.. either with Disk Utility (which uses fuser), OR sudo mount command
[15:46] <Pumpkin-> 1.) I turn off password logins in sshd_config. 2.) I get users to give  me ssh public keys when I create accounts and add them to the users .ssh/authorized_keys file. 3.) I give that user whatever sudo rights they need, and set the password to change on next login (passwd -e).
[15:47] <Pumpkin-> grendal-prime: sorry for the slow answer, got a call
[15:47] <droid-0854> I had an auto mount error and ended up formattin :(
[15:47] <deicon> MestreLion: okay its auto mounted now
[15:47] <jexpeck> new newbie here... is this a good place to ask about ubuntu server stuff?
[15:47] <MestreLion> deicon: for permanent mounts, you might edit /etc/fstab
[15:47] <vageesh> hi, i have an issue that my touchpad is not working all of a sudden
[15:47] <deicon> MestreLion: i edit it but ..
[15:47] <sipior> jexpeck: sure. there's also #ubuntu-server.
[15:48] <deicon> MestreLion: i wanted to mount to make a bootable image in this usb
[15:48] <grendal-prime> thats ok no need Pumpkin-  i just was poking fun
[15:48] <deicon> MestreLion: idk i ve done this many times
[15:48] <Praxi> I'm using Remmina Remote Desktop on a new ubuntu 11.04 install, is there a way to make it resize RDP's resolution to the current window size?
[15:48] <jexpeck> cool..
[15:48] <deicon> MestreLion: but now doesnt work with unetbootin
[15:48] <MestreLion> deicon: maybe because unetbootin does not recognize it as a flash drive (well, it isn't)
[15:49] <shaneo> hey guys how do i get chromium to import my firefox data it says theres no supported browser when i try to import
[15:49] <deicon> MestreLion: but i ve done it before
[15:49] <deicon> MestreLion: some time go
[15:49] <deicon> MestreLion: some time ago
[15:50] <MestreLion> deicon: you don't need fstab for that... it seems you don't want a permanent mount (do you?)
[15:50] <deicon> MestreLion: you have options about the drive (the selection) i mean but when i procced
[15:50] <deicon> MestreLion: it says that finished automatically
[15:50] <jexpeck> i am replacing a windoze based server and 10 workstations for a non profit... we're upgrading from 8 year old computers to 4 year old computers.. i want to use ubuntu destop and ubuntu server for the implementation.. question is do i have to have server hardware for ubuntu server edition or can i use a regular desktop?
[15:50] <deicon> MestreLion: and when i go to usb nothing in
[15:50] <AndyUbuntu> goodaye guys
[15:51] <AndyUbuntu> can anyone shed any light on this situation?
[15:51] <MestreLion> when you auto-mount stuff, they are mounted to ~/.gvfs/<label>
[15:51] <MestreLion> deicon: if that helps
[15:51] <AndyUbuntu> I am unable to use any of my shell extensions
[15:51] <deicon> MestreLion: i can see that
[15:51] <AndyUbuntu> think it is due to the new version of ubuntu
[15:51] <deicon> MestreLion: all the usb and the drives mounted now
[15:52] <deicon> MestreLion: but i cant make a bootable image
[15:52] <cheryl> Greetings oh holders of all linux knowledge!!
[15:52] <cheryl> I am having trouble installing updates AGAIN :(
[15:52] <MestreLion> deicon: can you try with USB Startup Disk Creator instead of Unetbootin?
[15:52] <deicon> MestreLion: i tried
[15:53] <deicon> MestreLion: god isnt with me now
[15:53] <AndyUbuntu> Gteetings
[15:53] <deicon> MestreLion: i 've
[15:53] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[15:53] <triscuit> my deja dup backup is creating 220 files, why?
[15:53] <MestreLion> deicon: man, I don't know... if it auto-mounts correctly, if you can copy files there using nautilus, read, delete files, etc... than your dive isn't the issue
[15:53] <Praxi> ohnos 2 putty clients in the software center, so confused hehe
[15:53] <droid-0854> deicon, impossible
[15:54] <MestreLion> deicon: wait... what is the filesystem ?
[15:54] <deicon> ntfs
[15:54] <deicon> i tried with fat32
[15:54] <deicon> if you want to say that
[15:54] <MestreLion> deicon: it must be fat32 for booting Ubuntu ISOs
[15:54] <droid-0854> Try a new card
[15:55] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, are you logged in via gnome-shell or Ubunt2D/3D
[15:55] <deicon> MestreLion: but i want to boot windows
[15:55] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, im logged in via gnome-shell at the moment
[15:55] <deicon> MestreLion: idk it doesnt work right now but it did
[15:56] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, what tool are you using to set the themes
[15:56] <cheryl> What do I do if the Update manager is freaking out about installing untrusted packages, namely Google talk??
[15:56] <MestreLion> deicon: I'm not sure how can you use unetbootin to make bootable windows drives
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  freaking out?
[15:56] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, i have been using gnome tweek
[15:56] <deicon> MestreLion: but startup disk creator doesnt work either now
[15:57] <shaneo> hmmm and will it let you apply the theme or is the option blocked off
[15:57] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, ^^
[15:57] <MestreLion> deicon: startup disk creater is for ubuntu isos only, that's for sure
[15:57] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, A big red no entry sign followed by "Requires installation of untrusted packages" is surely it freaking out on me?
[15:57] <bazhang> deicon, how does making a windows startup disk relate to ubuntu support
[15:57] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, is there a prob with that tool?
[15:57] <deicon> MestreLion: but in some way i ve done it
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  using a PPA?
[15:58] <MestreLion> deicon: not using SDC, i'm sure
[15:58] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, no but you may be missing some dependencies required to allow the themes
[15:58] <deicon> MestreLion: sdc no but unetbootin
[15:58] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Errrr....ummm...if I dunno wot one of them are probably not! lol
[15:58] <bazhang> deicon, ##windows for windows issue NOT here
[15:58] <MrHeat> Hi folks, quick question... i changed my kernel to virtual one... how to check if grub is correctly configured? (Ubuntu 11.10)
[15:58] <ikonia> MrHeat: what do you mean correctly configured ?
[15:58] <ikonia> MrHeat: is your new kernel getting booted ?
[15:58] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, do you have the Gnome3 ppa installed ?
[15:58] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, clear your to do list, this could take a while!
[15:58] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, oh ok. That sounds good :) Do you know what I can do to fix this
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  how did you install google talk?
[15:59] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, yeah i think so. Which one?
[15:59] <deicon> MestreLion: and how can a user of ubuntu using the ubuntu environment make a bootable image with windows
[15:59] <MrHeat> ikonia: well, i installed it via apt-get install... i want to check grub before try to reboot... (because its virtualized)
[15:59] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, by clicking on it on Google page,
[15:59] <bazhang> deicon, its not an ubuntu issue
[15:59] <MestreLion> and bazhang is correct... your drive looks fine... if it auto-mounts and you can copy files just fine, it is not an ubuntu issue. It is, at best, an unetbootin issue... and i have NO idea if it allows creation of windows startup disks
[15:59] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, this one https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/gnome3
[15:59] <deicon> MestreLion: okay i know
[15:59] <bazhang> deicon, windows has tools for that, ask in ##windows
[16:00] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I don't use it, help me uninstall it plse?
[16:00] <ikonia> MrHeat: look at the grub config then, see if it's pointing at the new kernel file
[16:00] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, i have that disabled at the mo as i was having problems with it
[16:00] <MrHeat> ikonia: I dont know how to see that :P
[16:00] <AndyUbuntu> I will reinstall the ppa now
[16:00] <deicon> MestreLion: i know the tools but it doesnt work its upgrades and cant support
[16:00] <ikonia> MrHeat: it's a text file, /etc/grub.conf
[16:00] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, what kind of problems also what distro are u running
[16:00] <ikonia> MrHeat: /boot/grub.cfg sorry
[16:01] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, please post errors to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:01] <_Marcus> shaneo: Figuring this is #ubuntu, and his name is "AndyUbuntu", he is most likely running Ubuntu
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  does it specify which packages?
[16:01] <MrHeat> ikonia: "/boot/grub.cfg" [New File]
[16:01] <shaneo> _Marcus, theres more than one version of ubuntu
[16:01] <AndyUbuntu> i am running ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3.309 the latest version and I am just getting incompatible extentions with this version of gnome shell
[16:01] <MestreLion> deicon: in an ubuntu environment I would simply burn a windows iso into a CD/DVD... it is the most one could do anyway
[16:01] <MrHeat> ikonia: it means the file doesn't exists :P
[16:01] <cheryl> Monk
[16:02] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Only this - google-talkplugin
[16:02] <_Marcus> shaneo: It's all Ubuntu though
[16:02] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, as a matter of interest what does ppa stand for?
[16:02] <kawer> Offensive technology of mental control or how to control the masses :
[16:02] <kawer> http://www.scribd.com/doc/19700543/httpwwwneotrouvecomDossier-Les-Technologies-Offensives-de-Controle-Politique
[16:02] <kawer> Still think of being free?
[16:02] <deicon> MestreLion: all my cd/dvds are full
[16:02] <FloodBot1> kawer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <kawer> [/info]
[16:02] <bazhang> kawer, wrong channel
[16:02] <shaneo> _Marcus, some versions work diff than others he nay be running pangolian for all i know in that case i couldnt offer any help as i dont use it
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  PPA is Personal Package Archive, a local software source
[16:02] <MestreLion> deicon: you cannot create a hdd startup disk in windows environment either, unless you're talking about MS-DOS / COMMAND.COM boot images
[16:03] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, will try absorb that 'n become more clever :)
[16:03] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, remove gnomeshell and reinstall with the ppa i sent you
[16:03] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, thats ok. I am using ubuntu 11.10
[16:03] <Praxi> MestreLion, isn't that what WIN PE is called?
[16:03] <AndyUbuntu> ok will give that a shot
[16:03] <AndyUbuntu> cheers shaneo
[16:03] <Praxi> boots a windows like environment, gives me access to local NTFS drives
[16:03] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Am just proud to be in a MS free zone 'n proudly opensource!! :)
[16:04] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, good luck and pastebin any errors i will check it out
[16:04] <deicon> MestreLion: wait you tell that you cant create a startup disk (ubuntu) in windows?
[16:04] <deicon> :S
[16:04] <cheryl> !pastebin
[16:04] <MestreLion> Praxi: sure... and without any thrid-party tools, can you build a Win PE partition in out-of-the-box windows?
[16:04] <bazhang> deicon, thats not supported here. ##windows
[16:04] <OttifantSir> (OttifantSir) Using wine 1.3.28 in xubuntu 11.10  I have installed Starcraft from battle.net but when starting the game, I only hear sounds, no picture. Do I need something more?
[16:04] <bazhang> MestreLion, lets move on
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  read this http://www.troublefixers.com/google-talk-for-ubuntu-procedure-to-install-and-use-web-based-gtalk-for-linux/
[16:05] <kitchen> how does one control the jack detection in oneiric?
[16:05] <deicon> bazhang: how it isnt iam using ubuntu
[16:05] <bazhang> OttifantSir, what does the appdb say
[16:05] <bazhang> deicon, not for that.
[16:05] <kitchen> my sound keeps skipping a bit as ... something ... auto probes for the headphone jack being plugged
[16:05] <kitchen> afaik
[16:05] <deicon> bazhang: i dont understand why
[16:05] <Praxi> the tools suck but ya, the 3rd party tools are way more functional and meant for the masses hehe.
[16:05] <deicon> bazhang: wait when i go to #windows what ill ask?
[16:05] <bazhang> deicon, /join ##windows
[16:05] <MestreLion> deicon: what do you want? to use ubuntu to create a windows disk, or to use windows to create an ubuntu disk ? for the former, google. For the latter, unetbootin has a windows port
[16:05] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I am not THAT keen on becoming a geekish woman lol, any quickfix solution to my problem? I  need to do updates.
[16:06] <OttifantSir> Bazhang: it says gold but nothing about missing video
[16:06] <deicon> MastreLion: i want to use ubuntu to create a windows disk
[16:06] <bazhang> OttifantSir, #winehq for particular apps
[16:06] <FLeiXiuS> How can I tell if my box booted from a clean state?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  i don't know if there's a quick fix :/
[16:06] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, also make sure your logged out of gnome shell and into unity when uninstalling gnome
[16:07] <shaneo> dont know if it matters but it would be a wise decision
[16:07] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, I did have that installed actually
[16:07] <Jacta_> hi AndyUbuntu
[16:07] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Do you not know how we can remove google-talkplugin on commandline?
[16:07] <AndyUbuntu> Hi Jacta_
[16:07] <deicon> MastreLion: i want to use ubuntu to create a windows disk
[16:07] <bazhang> deicon, stop
[16:08] <deicon> bazhang: what iam doing
[16:08] <MestreLion> deicon: PM before you get kicked
[16:08] <OttifantSir> Bazhang: was in wrong channel. Sorry
[16:08] <bazhang> deicon, I have told you repeatedly ##windows for that
[16:09] <Jacta_> how are you AndyUbuntu?
[16:09] <Praxi> what does #windows have to do with burning a iso on ubuntu?
[16:09] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, can I ask which version of the extensions you are using?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  you can use sudo apt-get purge
[16:09] <_Marcus> Praxi: He wants to burn a disk with Windows on it.
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  but better ask someone else, i'm not familiar with google talk
[16:10] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Hmmm....so I apt get purge then wot?  I am VERY green!
[16:10] <diverdude> Is php 5.4. available in the ubuntu repo
[16:10] <profxavier> hi guys, i just purchased a remote Ubuntu machine, which I acess via ssh. I ran my usualy update/upgrade, but when the box reboots, its prompting me to Configure grub. As I haven't initially setup the machine, i see a /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 (/)
[16:10] <Praxi> ya so? who cares whats on it, is he using a burning program in linux?  is he trying to customize it or something thats prompting all the hate?
[16:10] <profxavier> what should I choose as my option, or do I bypass this portion, without selecting anything ?
[16:10] <bazhang> Praxi, its not supported here. lets move on
[16:11] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu,  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html
[16:11] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I just rant Synaptic, did a search for google-talkplugin, found it 'n am removing it! Should solve problem!
[16:11] <ShooterMG> does ubuntu 11.10 ship with a way for me to log in via ssh and push messages to the desktop?
[16:11] <shaneo> ShooterMG, yes ssh
[16:11] <arvin_> ubuntu is the best
[16:12] <arvin_> can someone recamond a video editor
[16:12] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Watch this space am refreshing update now.....is a slow pc!
[16:12] <AndyUbuntu> ok thanks, just wondering as I have all the latest versions installed shaneo and also have the latest gnome shell which is a version higher
[16:12] <AndyUbuntu> I will see what happens
[16:12] <shaneo> and still no results >
[16:13] <bazhang> arvin_, openshot comes to mind
[16:13] <profxavier> nevermind
[16:13] <arvin_> thanks
[16:14] <arvin_> bye
[16:14] <profxavier> sweet, the Ubuntu guide is still being maintained!
[16:15] <profxavier> anyone know if its a good resource ?
[16:15] <Dulak> ShooterMG: I don't think it ships, but there is the libnotify-bin package which gives you the notify-send command for sending notifications to the desktop from the commandline.
[16:15] <pg345> Hello. I have some preseeding problems/questions.
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> profxavier  if it's useful to you, then it's good
[16:15] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, here is my pastebin when i run gnome-tweak-tool in terminal http://pastebin.com/qgY9rZs4
[16:16] <profxavier> sometimes ppl find they have incorrect info, so im just asking if anyone has had experience with it
[16:16] <AndyUbuntu> it seems to be having problems with widgets
[16:16] <profxavier> i know back in the day, i found it great
[16:16] <michal_> hi,I have ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop,I bought Netgear WNDA3100v2 and its not workink.I have managed to install software it can see my network but it asking me for passwowrd even when im entering it correctly
[16:16] <bazhang> profxavier, the manual?
[16:16] <profxavier> bazhang, the Ubuntu Guide
[16:16] <profxavier> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Oneiric
[16:16] <bazhang> profxavier, got a link?
[16:16] <profxavier> yep ;)
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> michal_  password or WPA key?
[16:17] <bazhang> profxavier, its okay; unofficial afaik
[16:17] <michal_> password
[16:17] <profxavier> bazhang, yeah, i used to go down the page each new Ubuntu install
[16:17] <michal_> It was WPA
[16:17] <profxavier> it usually had all i needed and more
[16:17] <Aufwind> What is the right syntax for starting a process (in background) whose output should be routed to the file my.out This: nohup python myscript.py > matrix.out 2>&1 &  OR this?  nohup python myscript.py > 2>&1 matrix.out  &    ?
[16:18] <Aufwind> Aufwind, I am a little confused because different people say different things about this... :-(
[16:18] <dlentz> michal_, does your password have spaces or strange characters in it?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> Aufwind  i gies
[16:18] <pg345> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04, here's my config based from the example. As it is, the installation works but the keyboard is not setup correctly. Also, when i replace « ubuntu-desktop » with « lamp-server » the installation just hangs.
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> Aufwind  i guess the channel #bash is more suitable for you
[16:19] <michal_> no,only digits and letters
[16:19] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, hmm thats wierd gimme a sec to do some investigating
[16:19] <AndyUbuntu> o thanks
[16:19] <AndyUbuntu> ok*
[16:19] <michal_> no spaces
[16:19] <Aufwind> MonkeyDust, Ok thanks!
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> pg345  type /join #ub ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> pg345  type /join #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[16:20] <pg345> thanks
[16:21] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Solved that problem, but now it's asking for a Lucid disc, as far as my memory serves me I'm still on Maverick 'cos my hardware couldn't cope with Lucid....so am hesitant to use Natty.....seems to be doing something now, I will return if I get stuck again, thanks for your genius :)
[16:21] <samkuehn> if I install 12.04 beta1 will I be able to upgrade to the final release via apt?
[16:21] <bazhang> cheryl, comment out the cd in your sources.list
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  Maverick is no longer supported, i think
[16:22] <bazhang> !final | samkuehn
[16:22] <yoshimi-pink> what's the package name of the default image viewer on ubuntu?
[16:22] <yoshimi-pink> google keeps taking me to 'how to change it' sites
[16:22] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, So am doomed if I can't afford newer hardware :(
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  ok, Maverick is still supported for a few weeks
[16:22] <samkuehn> ubottu:  great thanks.  I thought that is what I read but I wanted to confirm
[16:23] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, install gnome apps from here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/gnome-shell-ubuntu-11-10-guide/ and see if that helps
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  newer hardware?
[16:23] <cheryl> I don't think Lucid liked my memory or somming to that effect!
[16:23] <chinthu> how can i enter into terminal?
[16:23] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I don't think Lucid liked my memory or somming to that effect!
[16:24] <michal_> I really wish to be able to make it run,this is my second adapter-first was cisco-that was my bad I did not check it but this ment to be plug and play,I know it does not like WPA so I have made my own password and stil not taking it
[16:24] <bazhang> chinthu, open a terminal? or get to tty
[16:24] <chinthu> bazhang: what is tty?
[16:24] <bazhang> chinthu, no x server
[16:25] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, if that doesnt work uninstall these three pkgs libpulse-mainloop-glib0, libpulse0 and libxfixes3
[16:25] <cheryl> bazhang, Am sending you Valium, even I know how to open a terminal :)
[16:25] <auronandace> !tty | chinthu
[16:25] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, ok thanks
[16:25] <bazhang> chinthu, to open a terminal ctrl alt T
[16:25] <AndyUbuntu> I went through the same install earlier on omg ubuntu
[16:25] <chinthu> bazhang: actually i am new to ubuntu and hardly know some technical words... :(
[16:25] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:26] <cheryl> bazhang, Hey, never knew THAT key sequence, thanks, beats going thru menus! :)
[16:26] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, lol jeez sounds like your having a hell of a day
[16:26] <shaneo> this is why i use unity
[16:27] <shaneo> with ICS gtk3 theme
[16:27] <AndyUbuntu> yea, well i did install loads of php libraries. This meant it kinda broke the install and have had to reinstall parts again
[16:27] <AndyUbuntu> gnome-shell finally working again after a few hours
[16:28] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell whats is the ouput when you run that command
[16:28] <shaneo> if all is well it will reply with nothing or it will show unmet dependencies
[16:28] <AndyUbuntu> it says its fine
[16:29] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:29] <michal_> can anyone help me with that netgear WNDA3100v2 or tell me where to go?
[16:29] <shaneo> also sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[16:29] <Xabster> Anyone got time to help me fix pureftpd? :/ I followed a guide step-by-step but I can't login on the server... it responds, but it won't accept the password: http://paste.ubuntu.com/893837/
[16:29] <Xabster> michal_, netgear's website?
[16:29] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, also sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[16:30] <chinthu> bazhang: ubottu thanks a lot... feels more confident to come up with more questions. this time, i will learn. it was this hesitation, that i am wasting your time, which pulled me back from learning more
[16:30] <AndyUbuntu> they both return nothing at all
[16:30] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:30] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, and sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-common
[16:30] <shaneo> than run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:31] <michal_> I did follow steps and I have make it work but its not acceptin the pasword
[16:31] <shaneo> sudo apt-get install -f
[16:31] <chinthu> bazhang:  thanks :)
[16:31] <AndyUbuntu> lol, they all return nothing
[16:31] <bazhang> chinthu, there is not wasting time if you need help, thats why we are here
[16:32] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, hmm this is odd
[16:32] <shaneo> did you purge and reinstall
[16:32] <AndyUbuntu> I dont think I have done a purge
[16:32] <shade34321> I'm trying to ssh into an ubuntu box and keep getting this error, no hostkey alg
[16:32] <shade34321> , any idea on how to fix it?
[16:32] <shaneo> sudo apt-get purge gnome*
[16:32] <AndyUbuntu> i did follow the same comandes earlier
[16:32] <chinthu> bazhang: ya.. am realising that now... hopes am not too late :) thank you!
[16:32] <AndyUbuntu> purge gnome, will that be ok?
[16:33] <AndyUbuntu> that will remove everything tho right?
[16:33] <shaneo> for gnome yes
[16:33] <shaneo> login to unity purge and re-install
[16:33] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: No, because Gnome is a Meta-pkg. Do: "sudo aptitude purge '~c'"
[16:33] <bazhang> shaneo, what is he trying to remove?
[16:34] <shaneo> having him reinstall gnome-shell
[16:34] <bazhang> !info gnome
[16:34] <AndyUbuntu> ok, which is the best to do
[16:34] <michal_> where else shoul I look for healp except Netgear?
[16:34] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: That will purge all apps that are not currently installed
[16:35] <chrispin> Hello guys, could someone point me at a network diagrammer tool for Ubuntu system
[16:35] <sacarlson> shade34321: hostkey algorithum I take it.  so maybe delete you .ssh files on the client or better just rename them
[16:35] <shaneo> do what __Alex_ said sudo aptitude purge gnome*
[16:35] <__Alex_> No, not gnome*. sudo aptitude purge '~c'
[16:35] <shaneo> do it from unity desktop though as being logged in to gnome while purging could create issues
[16:35] <AndyUbuntu> ok so I will need to run sudo aptitude purge '~c'
[16:35] <AndyUbuntu> ok thanks
[16:35] <__Alex_> Yes, Andy
[16:36] <AndyUbuntu> ok I will be right back then
[16:36] <AndyUbuntu> cheers
[16:36] <shaneo> than reinstall and all should be good
[16:36] <shaneo> sudo aptitude install gnome*
[16:36] <husk> anyone know where the default wallpapers are located?
[16:36] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Houston we have successsfully updated!! :-D
[16:36] <__Alex_> shaneo: Aptitude doesn't work with *
[16:36] <bazhang> shaneo, that command will not do it
[16:37] <shade34321> sacarlson, like the entire .ssh folder in our home directory?
[16:37] <shaneo> oh sorry dont use it much figured commands were the same
[16:37] <__Alex_> husk: I'm not sure, but maybe somewhere in /usr/share
[16:37] <sacarlson> shade34321: probly in this file but just rename the whole dir .ssh ,  yes
[16:37] <bazhang> and aptitude is not installed by default
[16:37] <shaneo> i better just stick to apt-get commands :p
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> !yay| cheryl flowers for you
[16:38] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Now if u live in the UK and have a lucid disc I'll bake you a cake!! :)
[16:38] <sacarlson> shade34321: for me would  probly be this file /home/sacarlson/.ssh/authorized_keys
[16:38] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, Where can I d/load lucid disc?
[16:38] <shade34321> sacarlson, hmm...that could be a problem...the home directory is a nsf mount and we need it to gain access to the lab...hmm I would hope it's only the authorized_keys file
[16:38] <shade34321> i will try and rename it
[16:39] <sacarlson> shade34321: on the client side not the server
[16:39] <__Alex_> shaneo: apt-get is fast, but it handles dependencies a lot worse than Aptitude, and Aptitude has also a TUI, so it's actually user friendly
[16:40] <mzayso> hello can someone helpme im gettin this error xinit; unable to connect to x server: connection refuse, xinit server error , error in looking authority file
[16:40] <AndyUbuntu> thanks guys, back on unity now
[16:40] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[16:40] <shade34321> sacarlson, on the machine, so if my machine was named pigeon I would change /home/shade34321/.ssh/authorized_keys right?
[16:40] <michal_> can someone help me with my NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 ? It recognize my network but does not acepting the password.Its not WPA it my own,only letters and digits no spaces.Please.Or tel me where to look except for netgear-I was there already
[16:40] <shade34321> sacarlson, btw thanks for the helping me solve this problem
[16:41] <shaneo> __Alex_, thanks for the heads up ill give it a shot
[16:41] <AndyUbuntu> ok, so it says 246 to remove now
[16:41] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, good luck
[16:41] <AndyUbuntu> will that be ok?
[16:41] <__Alex_> Yes
[16:41] <__Alex_> The apps are already removed, it's just config files
[16:41] <sacarlson> shade34321: ya but to be safe just rename the entire ~.ssh directory,  I think it will fill with defaults on the first run if needed
[16:41] <sacarlson> shade34321: or if  you have time try one at a time
[16:41] <AndyUbuntu> cheers, kinda worried. Will I then reinstall gnome shell before loggin out or will i need a reboot?
[16:42] <AndyUbuntu> oh ok good stuff
[16:42] <shade34321> sacarlson, but if the /home directory is mounted on all computers wouldn't that just lock me out?
[16:42] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: I recommand rebooting, just in case, but i dobut it's needed.
[16:42] <AndyUbuntu> ok, will do
[16:42] <sacarlson> shade34321: only if it was mounted read only
[16:43] <shade34321> sacarlson, I can log onto any computer in our lab and get the same /home directory including servers and gateway...hmm..ok
[16:43] <shade34321> i will try it
[16:43] <AndyUbuntu> i never seen that command before.
[16:44] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: I found it here long ago: http://segfault.in/2010/03/purge-removed-packages-on-ubuntu/
[16:45] <AndyUbuntu> oh ok, will make sure to remember that one
[16:45] <Amivit> lol my irc banned ubottu by mistake, for type "Glad you made it! :-)"   .... it included "u mad" which triggered an ignore. Oops xD
[16:45] <AndyUbuntu> seems very useful
[16:45] <Amivit> How do I un-ignore someone ?
[16:45] <bazhang> Amivit, which client
[16:45] <Amivit> mirc
[16:45] <bazhang> try in ##mirc
[16:45] <Amivit> Thanks :)
[16:45] <bindi> Amivit: /help /ignore - but anyway.. /ignore -r name
[16:46] <Amivit> there we go :D Thanks !
[16:46] <shade34321> sacarlson, so I renamed the entire .ssh directory to .ssh_bkup and deleted it and tried and  I received the same error.  The touchpad is very sensitive.. while typing even the slightest touch on the touchpad takes the cursor where the mouse pointer is pointing to.. Hope i am able to express myself... here is a screenshot of the same http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=214411&d=1331915618
[16:48] <bindi> thomasd: got shell access of the remote server? if so, mysqldump -u username -p password -all-databases > dump.sql
[16:48] <thomasd> does that put it into a sqlite file?
[16:49] <bindi> it's something you can import back, i'm assuming it's a mysql server
[16:49] <thomasd> It's hosted through godaddy so i dont believe i can tunnel into the sql system.
[16:50] <bindi> thomasd: and then to import it back on your local server, just download the dump and do mysql -u username -p < dump.sql
[16:50] <sacarlson> shade34321: other OS's being what solaris?
[16:50] <bindi> thomasd: well i would guess there are php scripts that give you mysql dumps
[16:51] <bindi> thomasd: can you access the remote mysql server?
[16:51] <shade34321> sacarlson, RHEL. I convinced my Professor to ditch RHEL for Ubuntu
[16:51] <thomasd> so it dumps it into a chain of sql commands
[16:51] <bindi> thomasd: yes
[16:51] <The_Pugilist> what is the difference (if any) between using a semicolon and a double ampersand to run multiple commands in a terminal?
[16:51] <office_it_guy201> Hello Ubuntu support channel! Can someone help me out with a possibly-simple problem?
[16:51] <thomasd> bindi: i can connect to the sql server. i cant tunnle into it
[16:51] <bazhang> office_it_guy201, ask the channel
[16:51] <shade34321> so as of right now I'm have three workstatoins running ubuntu, installing currently actually, and 2 working without a problem and I don't remember this problem with the others
[16:51] <bindi> thomasd: try the mysqldump command i gave you, but with -h host.name
[16:52] <thomasd> ok thank you vary much
[16:52] <sipior> The_Pugilist: the latter runs the second command only if the first completes without error.
[16:52] <sacarlson> shade34321: so redhat is on the server or the client side?
[16:52] <The_Pugilist> sipior, thanks :)
[16:52] <office_it_guy201> I have a bunch of Thinkpad T420s machines, running the newest version of Ubuntu, and I can't figure out how to make external monitors work via the DisplayPort. Do I need a special driver?
[16:53] <shade34321> sacarlson, Most of our servers and clients are running RHEL
[16:53] <shade34321> I am in the process of switching over the clients to ubuntu
[16:54] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, did you try the blue fn keys?
[16:54] <sacarlson> shade34321: you should be able to look at the first line of /home/sacarlson/.ssh/authorized_keys  to see what algorithum it was using to give us a clue of the problem
[16:54] <shade34321> we currently have two clients using ubuntu and one OpenSuse...we have a web server using Ubuntu Server, and gateway using a hardened version of gentoo...so we have a few
[16:54] <office_it_guy201> which ones? and when do I press them? I just know when I plug in to the display port, nothing happens and it's not recognized in the system settings
[16:55] <shade34321> sacarlson, we are using rsa keys
[16:55] <Praxi> just shooting from the hip here office_it_guy201, on my old stinkpads, they had keys up top that adjusted display port, and it usually involved holding down a blue FN key to activate those.
[16:56] <thomasd> bindi: Thanks a lot man, mysqldump was just what i needed. I'ts a brute force aproch but it will work
[16:56] <mneptok> office_it_guy201: have you tried restarting the X server after plugging in the external monitor?
[16:56] <office_it_guy201> would you please tell me the command?
[16:56] <__Alex_> office_it_guy201: sudo killall X
[16:56] <mneptok> office_it_guy201: ALT-PrntScrn-K
[16:56] <sacarlson> shade34321: rsa keys should work on ubuntu, so maybe they format them different?  check the version differences of what runs on the working clients and not working client
[16:56] <office_it_guy201> There is one working in my office, so I know this is physically possible
[16:56] <office_it_guy201> ok let me try those...
[16:56] <AndyUbuntu> __Alex_, just about to do a reboot in a min
[16:57] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fn_key  look at the picture, blue FN key then on mine it was F4
[16:57] <AndyUbuntu> just finished
[16:57] <sacarlson> shade34321: and that files key should have worked on something.  but maybe not, has that rsa key ever worked?
[16:57] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, on my stinkpad, that toggled the external display, would go from no external, to external only, to both type thing
[16:58] <shade34321> all of our accounts have worked on all computers, it worked previously on this computer when we had RHEL installed, adn all of our keys allows us to SSH into the two computers running ubuntu as well
[16:58] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, was the monitor recognized in system settings even when the external wasn't toggled on?
[16:58] <Praxi> no
[16:58] <bindi> thomasd: np :)
[16:59] <office_it_guy201> interesting, ok. I will try that in just a few moments…. have to reinstall it seems
[16:59] <office_it_guy201> the beta = not so stable for me
[16:59] <mneptok> Praxi: confirmed. my T-pad recognizes function key presses to switch displays.
[16:59] <Praxi> hehe
[17:00] <office_it_guy201> mneptok, do you have any special drivers, etc installed? or are you just using the default install?
[17:00] <mneptok> office_it_guy201: default FLOSS drivers for everything (e.g. "radeon" for the APU)