[05:07] <sebsebseb> jeeves:   type in /list
[05:08] <shiznebit> n8tuser: thanks for your help, i was an idiot i forgot to reboot, it works fine now
[05:08] <H_M-Ubuntu> Heh well it started yesterday,
[05:08] <H_M-Ubuntu> I believe after an update
[05:08] <histo> jeeves: there are multiple channel searches online.
[05:08] <jeeves> sebsebseb, thanks
[05:08] <n8tuser> shiznebit -> anyhow, i wanted to know if that was able to create the power button event?
[05:08] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: did you try running an update again from a console to try to resolve any issues?
[05:09] <H_M-Ubuntu> No
[05:09] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[05:09] <DasEi> victorhugo: nice to hear, I'm not so familiar with it, just remembered ultra/super vnc, where you could configure it via gui, nice rc then
[05:09] <H_M-Ubuntu> I use apt-get, heh,
[05:09] <wil_syd> !flash
[05:09] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: well you can use apt-get should matter
[05:09] <histo> !botabuse > wil_syd
[05:10] <H_M-Ubuntu> What is safe-upgrade?
[05:10] <H_M-Ubuntu> Never seen it before.
[05:10] <fari0> hello
[05:10] <fari0> how can i see the doc of a method of glibc
[05:10] <fari0> =
[05:10] <fari0> ?
[05:10] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: its something aptitude has that it won't remove any packages that aren't needed anymore. It will jsut upgrade.
[05:10] <Voort> histo: I don't see any firewalls setup on the system and I don't remember setting up any firewalls.  I vaguely remember doing a system up date before the last time I was able to access the server via samba
[05:10] <jewlz> any1 know of a good vpn software for setting up a vpn server on ubuntu? i need to set up a vpn server for when im at school ( they block everything there) :P
[05:10] <deostroll> hi, tried to resolve the resolution issue on my ubuntu, it kind of blacked out in console mode, and got stuck...
[05:11] <victorhugo> DasEi: when i run ssh and execute a X application, should it shows in my computer?
[05:11] <histo> Voort: hrm.. whatever is happening is beyond me perhaps someone else maybe able to shed some light on the issue.
[05:11] <wil_syd> histo: Thanks
[05:11] <histo> !openvpn | jewlz
[05:11] <Voort> histo: Thanks for you time
[05:11] <H_M-Ubuntu> histo: Ok well, anything else? That didn't work :(
[05:11] <histo> wil_syd: Voort np
[05:11] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: did you get an error?
[05:11] <jewlz> histo, thnx, is it easy to configure?
[05:12] <H_M-Ubuntu> No it continued just fine.
[05:12] <H_M-Ubuntu> I mean, it still doesn't open obviously.
[05:12] <deostroll> !resolution
[05:12] <shiznebit> n8tuser: nope it didn't create a powerbutton event
[05:12] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: try ps aux | grep gnome-app-install   are there any hung processes?
[05:12] <DasEi> victorhugo_: you could login via ssh as a remote user with a valid user account on the server-machine and then also start an app using x, also a question of permissions
[05:13] <histo> !botabuse > deostroll
[05:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> sam      13025  0.0  0.0   7452   880 pts/1    R+   00:13   0:00 grep gnome-app-install
[05:13] <histo> DasEi: yes you can forward X
[05:13] <n8tuser> shiznebit -> i thought so too, anyhow am trying to learning event initiated scripts
[05:13] <jon5000> prikolchik:  I tried the thing you said and the answer was cp: cannot create regular file.  Is this possibly b/c I disabled the ATI driver that Ubuntu origibally installed?
[05:13] <ant2ne> using debian booting my ibook, i got a disk problem - running e2fsck i get the error "the superblock could not be read or does not descrive a correct ext2"
[05:13] <histo> DasEi: you can forward X through ssh actually the client side just needs to have a way to display it. linux and macos will display it fine but windows needs some help to get going.
[05:14] <prikolchik> jon5000: add sudo to the command
[05:14] <DasEi> histo: yo, both ubuntu machines in this example
[05:14] <prikolchik> jon5000 "sudo cp......"
[05:14] <bitsbam> hey all
[05:15] <ant2ne> anybody have any experience with superblocks and corrupted file system?
[05:15] <histo> DasEi: just use the -X option when you log in to the machine with ssh
[05:16] <H_M-Ubuntu> histo: sam      13025  0.0  0.0   7452   880 pts/1    R+   00:13   0:00 grep gnome-app-install
[05:16] <histo> DasEi: then you can run a comand like firefox &   and it will start in background mode
[05:16] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: nope.  Have you restarted since you started seeing this error?  I'm wondering ifsomething is hung with python.
[05:16] <H_M-Ubuntu> Yeah I did, 2 times.
[05:16] <jon5000> prikolchik: that worked.  i will now install and let you know how it goes
[05:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> Well 6 if you include X restarts
[05:18] <DasEi> histo: It was victorhugo who asked, but thanks for advice :)
[05:18] <nroot7> Can I install Jaunty from ISO of alternate cd, without burning it?
[05:18] <deostroll> can't fix my screen resolution
[05:19] <sebsebseb> nroot7: you should wait untill the final release on Thursday really before  installing 9.04
[05:19] <sebsebseb> nroot7: and #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[05:19] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[05:19] <H_M-Ubuntu> Err...
[05:19] <H_M-Ubuntu> Tha-- Meh that will remove other entries I have added, correct?
[05:20] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: in a terminal that will delete package information that is already downloaded and redownload the lists
[05:20] <nroot7> sebsebseb: I have been using Jaunty since alpha 3, I am reinstalling for ext4 filesystem, but I dont have a spare cd with me right now, just the alternate cd iso
[05:20] <jon5000> prikolchik: new problem.  The driver installer is a ".run" file.  How do i run that?
[05:20] <sebsebseb> nroot7: since alpha3 hummm
[05:21] <prikolchik> ./run?
[05:21] <sebsebseb> nroot7: well my 9.04 upgrade to alpha6, is still buggered up here and there
[05:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> Worked fine, only hiccup was "rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory"
[05:21] <sebsebseb> nroot7: that I have then continued to upgrade.  I will clean install once final is out for Ext4
[05:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> But still doesn't open.
[05:21] <sebsebseb> nroot7: and to get rid of this stuff
[05:21] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: do you have deskbar-applet running?
[05:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> No
[05:22] <rainofkayos> hi
[05:22] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: something is buggered up with python it seems to me maybe someone else may know more.
[05:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> :(
[05:23] <deostroll> My screen resolution is incorrect. I've followed the bot's advice too. It does not work...
[05:23] <BladeNBrocade> lol as i soon as i switched to dual monitors i xinerama mode.. me wobbly windows dont wobble anymore [compiz] i imagine this doesn't work with :0 and :1 in xorg.. or is there a fix?
[05:23] <H_M-Ubuntu> What about this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-app-install
[05:23] <H_M-Ubuntu> I could try reinstalling it
[05:24] <H_M-Ubuntu> My only question is if that would mess something else up, heh.
[05:24] <Amerigo> I need technical assistance with nVidia please.
[05:25] <celthunder> amerigo more information needed?
[05:25] <Amerigo> I can't save settings for dual screens.
[05:26] <H_M-Ubuntu> Amerigo, run nvidia-settings under root
[05:26] <H_M-Ubuntu> sudo nvidia-settings
[05:26] <Amerigo> how?
[05:26] <H_M-Ubuntu> Then hit save configuration before closing nvidia-settings.
[05:26] <Amerigo> log in as root?
[05:26] <Meshezabeel> what is a good tool for ripping a non-protected dvd?
[05:27] <H_M-Ubuntu> Amerigo, Open up terminal and type "sudo nvidia-settings"
[05:27] <H_M-Ubuntu> Without the quotes, of course.
[05:27] <H_M-Ubuntu> Change your settings accordingly, then hit "Save to X Configuration File"
[05:27] <DigitalKiwi> H_M-Ubuntu: sudo for graphical apps is bad!
[05:27] <DigitalKiwi> !gksudo
[05:28]  * kindofabuzz sighs
[05:28] <H_M-Ubuntu> Oh, well works fine here...
[05:28] <Amerigo> sudo: nvidia: command not found
[05:28] <kindofabuzz> nvidia-settings
[05:28] <H_M-Ubuntu> Amerigo, nvidia-settings
[05:28] <awll> como instalar o realplayer no kubuntu
[05:30] <awll> realplayer no ubuntu como instala-lo
[05:30] <Amerigo> I think it worked! No error in saving anyway.
[05:31] <DasEi> !realplayer, and english please
[05:31] <Amerigo> :)
[05:31] <DasEi> !realplayer | awll (and english please)
[05:31] <Plecebo> After I install ubuntu 9.04 and reboot I get a grub error 15, i've tried reconfiguring grub by booting into the live cd and doing some sudo grub magic, but can't seem to get it working. any advice?
[05:32] <Amerigo> Why doesn't Ubuntu allow me to select a partition to install on rather than trying to resize my XP partition?
[05:32] <DasEi> Plecebo: you called grub on live and found stage 1, reinstalled it ?
[05:33] <FoxBlitzz> Amerigo: It does. Select Manual.
[05:33] <Plecebo> DasEi: I found stage 2, how do I find stage 1? find /boot/grub/stage1 ?
[05:33] <ant2ne> JBD: no valid journal superblock found
[05:33] <ant2ne> EXT3-fs: error loading journal.
[05:33] <Amerigo> I finally got it, but manual is what killed XP and took over the whole drive.
[05:33] <ant2ne> mount: mounting /dev/hda3 on /mnt failed: invalid argument
[05:34] <ant2ne> any advice?
[05:34] <Plecebo> DasEi: it says (hd2,5)
[05:34] <Zzeiss> I'm having trouble with Bluetooth under 8.10 on a Macbook Unibody.  The adapter is simply not seen.  Plugging in an external USB Bluetooth adapter works.  I tried "sudo hciconfig hci0 reset" on a fresh boot.  Any ideas?  I'd really like to use my BT keyboard and mouse!
[05:34] <Plecebo> for stage 1
[05:34] <DasEi> Plecebo: yes for stage 1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[05:34] <Amerigo> How do I get to this chat with Pidgin?
[05:34] <bullgard4> What information stores the directory ~/.nautilus/metafiles?
[05:36] <DasEi> Amerigo: prtocoll irc, irc.ubuntu.com = server, choose a nick ..
[05:37] <ljsoftnet> hello people!
[05:37] <DasEi> Plecebo: if you're in trouble with more often it, super-grub-cd is a very nice tool
[05:38] <Plecebo> DasEi: ok i've done that (at grub) root (hd2,5) then setup (hd0)
[05:38] <Plecebo> DasEi: still getting error 15
[05:39] <Plecebo> DasEi: would the super-grub-cd help with this issue?
[05:39] <DasEi> Plecebo: are you on a different machine now or on the live-cd ?
[05:40] <Plecebo> DasEi: another machine
[05:41] <DasEi> Plecebo: can you boot the 15'' in live to do some checks ?
[05:41] <MarkJones> Hi guys I just got 8.10 setup the way i like, I went to add a shortcut to my gnome menu and darn alacarte wont start when i try and edit the menu.Is this a common bug or is there a common cause? I try and run alacarte from terminal window and MenuEditor.py is reported to have errors in 4 lines. How can I fix it? ive already tried reinstalling alacarte from Synaptic package manager.
[05:41] <MarkJones> It runs fine if I run it with sudo
[05:41] <Amerigo> How do you get registered with freenode/#ubuntu?
[05:42] <Plecebo> DasEi: I can, give me a second to boot back into the live cd
[05:42] <DasEi> Amerigo: /help  in messenger or in #freenode
[05:43] <Plecebo> DasEi: how would I boot the 15?
[05:43] <gimpuzmani> hello
[05:43] <DasEi> Plecebo: just boot the broken machine (Icalled it 15'') into live cd
[05:44] <Plecebo> DasEi: ok its booting up now
[05:44] <DasEi> Plecebo: how many drives has the pc ?
[05:45] <Plecebo> DasEi: from the 15 on the live cd is where I did the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff before
[05:45] <Plecebo> DasEi: it has 4 drives
[05:45] <Plecebo> DasEi: sdc is where the / partition is
[05:45] <Plecebo> DasEi: ok in the live environment on 15
[05:46] <DasEi> Plecebo: more then one linux on it ?
[05:46] <DasEi> Plecebo: open a terminal ..
[05:46] <Zzeiss> I'm having trouble with getting Bluetooth running on a Macbook Unibody with 8.10  (that is, the adapter is simply not seen).  Any ideas?
[05:46] <Plecebo> DasEi: no, only one linux install a fresh 9.04 I had an install of Ubuntu on it, but formated the drives and installed fresh
[05:47] <Plecebo> DasEi: ok
[05:47] <DasEi> Plecebo: and still another OS on it ?
[05:47] <Plecebo> DasEi: no other os on the machine
[05:48] <Plecebo> DasEi: only One install of Ubuntu 9.04 on machine 15
[05:49] <freaky_t> Apr 19 03:29:14 master xinetd[16052]: socket creation failed (Protocol not supported (errno = 93)). service = syscp <-- can anybody help me? i've added a service in /etc/services and i added a file in /etc/xinitd.d/conf.d/syscp the protocol line says tcp i dont understand why i get this error can someone help me please? :( im sittin in front of this since 2 hours :(
[05:49] <DasEi> Plecebo: trml : sudo grub
[05:49] <DasEi> Plecebo: find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:50] <snowball_> Can somebody help me? I'm trying to setup/start my VirtualBox. It says it failed to start the virtual machine. It asks me to "Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernal, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[05:50] <tsukasa_> hey guys, anyone know if its possible to replace my 5.1 audio receiver with a linux box
[05:50] <DasEi> Plecebo: output ?
[05:50] <echrisco> When installing ubuntu, it said it was importing my documents, firefox settings, ect. I don't see any evidence of that now. It doesn't even show that XP is there.
[05:51] <Plecebo> DasEi: (hd2,5)
[05:52] <DasEi> Plecebo: root (hd2,5)
[05:52] <echrisco> :-/
[05:52] <snowball_> echrisco- Yeah for some reason that happens when you install for ex: Ubuntu :P
[05:52] <DasEi> Plecebo: which drive is set in bios to boot from ?
[05:53] <Plecebo> DasEi: can't remember actually
[05:53] <Plecebo> DasEi: I want to say the 1st one, sda
[05:53] <Double_Kill2> hey i need help with wmv, mpeg videos, the vidoes come up with a blue tint to them
[05:53] <DasEi> Plecebo: so if no other os is installed, just use hd2 and change bios accordingly (shall be third drive)
[05:54] <bitsbam> what program can be used with the awesome window manager to select a gtk / gnome theme?
[05:54] <minazo> Switched to another ISP, we're on ASDL. It think they use PPPoE? Is this different from a cable or wireless connetion? My linux machine freezes up (keyoard/mouse) after I leave it for around 30 minutes. Windoze's machine running fine. Anyone ever have that problem.
[05:54] <Plecebo> DasEi: ok
[05:54] <echrisco> The first attempt to install ubuntu didn't give the option to boot with widows. It does now. I've installed both 3 times now.
[05:54] <Plecebo> DasEi: so setup (hd2)
[05:54] <DasEi> Plecebo: setup (hd2)
[05:54] <Zzeiss> What kind of device is "pan0"?
[05:54] <Plecebo> DasEi: ok done
[05:54] <minazo> broadband wireless i meant.
[05:54] <Double_Kill2> can anyone help me? my wmv, mpeg videos come up with a blue tint to them
[05:54] <DasEi> Plecebo: quit
[05:54] <Plecebo> DasEi: it gives confirmations that it could find stages1 and 2 etc
[05:55] <DasEi> Plecebo: fine, check : sudo fdisk -l
[05:55] <DasEi> l= small L
[05:56] <Plecebo> DasEi: one second
[05:56] <DasEi> Plecebo: get which drive it is to easier find it back in bios
[05:56] <Double_Kill2> alright i guess not...........
[05:58] <Plecebo> DasEi: then change the bios to boot from that drive?
[05:58] <DasEi> Plecebo: should work -- see ya ?
[05:58] <DasEi> sudo reboot
[05:59] <Plecebo> DasEi: cool thanks, i'll try it out. Thanks for all your help
[06:00] <DasEi> thank if works ;-)
[06:01] <harvest> Installed The Widget Factory but can't locate where to start it ?
[06:02] <ScottG> So I made a bash script and run it from Sessions but it doesnt run some of the programs. It runs the terminal and then a window and then nothing else
[06:02] <ScottG> http://pastebin.com/d30e0aabe
[06:03] <minazo> does Ubuntu handle inet6 addr *not* the same as a ipv4 address? google it?
[06:03] <Plecebo> DasEi: it worked :) thanks again for your help
[06:04] <minazo> sorry, i am not making sense. IP6 different than IP4?
[06:04] <DasEi> Plecebo: nice, for future: dd let's you backup the mbr, super-grub-disk is very handy
[06:04] <DasEi> Plecebo: sg-disk is very nice for multiple boots
[06:05] <Plecebo> DasEi: great! I'll read up on how to use the sg disk to do that
[06:05] <Plecebo> DasEi: thanks again
[06:06] <DasEi>  minazo:different tcp-protokolls, different handling, by default only the loopback handles ipv6, but can change it for your nics/in you config, kernel is capable of ipv6
[06:06] <DasEi> d*
[06:07] <Nareth> Hey, I've been trying to get sound out of firefox for a while, and I can't do it. I tried a couple of the solutions I found on the forums, but no luck. Any advice?
[06:07] <SockPants> hey
[06:07] <topgun17> wtf is nx clin\ent?
[06:08] <digitalchemist> I'd like to use dd to make a copy of my MBR and the first partition ... I know the answer will have something to do with the output of 'fdisk -l' so that I can use 'dd if=/dev/sda of=hd.img count=N bs=M' ... how to I figure out these unknowns?
[06:08] <love_ubuntu> what tool to use to upload a file of an ftp server?
[06:09] <topgun17> love_ubuntu: ft[p ofcourse
[06:09] <guestadmin> Anyone ready to be bugged about a Hardy PulseAudio Problem? - Or atleast point me in the direction. Now I have streams in firefox, but lost youtube and flash 9 sound.
[06:09] <topgun17> love_ubuntu: ftp ofcourse
[06:10] <DasEi>  Nareth: you can play sound at all (f.e. mp3) ?
[06:10] <topgun17> guestadmin: Why ar you not using intrepid-ibex?
[06:10] <Nareth> DasEi: Yes, I can, Exaile, amarok, and the like work
[06:11] <love_ubuntu> i see, cool
[06:11] <guestadmin> topgun17: wanted to stick only to the LTS versions
[06:11] <DasEi>  Nareth: alsamixer installed ?
[06:12] <Jihui_Choi> I want to change some package from 8.10 iso and redistribute.
[06:12] <Nareth> DasEi: Yes
[06:12] <topgun17> guestadmin: msg me with the exact problem so that I can focus on you\r issue solly
[06:12] <Jihui_Choi> Then, if someone ask me to open sources, how shall I do? what source will I give him?
[06:13] <guestadmin> topgun17: ok
[06:13] <topgun17> guestadmin: I'll be looking for that message
[06:13] <DasEi>  Nareth:close browser, sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[06:13] <suma1> i use 2 OS in my system. how to know in which partition ubuntu is located?
[06:13] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <DasEi> suma1: sudo fdsik -l
[06:13] <Nareth> DasEi: Sure, hang on.
[06:14] <guestadmin> topgun17: to send message, double click on name to the right, yes ? (xcha)t
[06:14] <Jihui_Choi> digitalchemist: ? what does it mean?
[06:14] <ActiveFrost> any LAMP pros here ?
[06:14] <jordanl> and can i do any kind of global package rebuild to ensure system integrity
[06:14] <suma1>  DasEi: from that how to know the current OS's partition?
[06:14] <jordanl> 2~~2~
[06:14] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: that's the file where APT keeps its list of sources, if you'd prefer GUI access, I'll look it up real quick
[06:14] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: or via GUI: System->Administration->Software Sources
[06:15] <DasEi> suma1: you should see filetype/sizes
[06:15] <ActiveFrost> where I can change DirectoryIndex for apache ( LAMP ) ?
[06:15] <guestadmin> topgun17: now even more embarassed, used xchat for over 2 years and nver had to send a message
[06:15] <davidstri> How or where do I read the channel topic? I'm new to IRC.
[06:15] <Jihui_Choi> humm.. yes. I understand. However these packages are just into ubuntu. They aren't ubuntu, are they?
[06:16] <topgun17> guestadmin: left click my name in the user list window to bring up the context menu
[06:16] <Jordan_U> davidstri, Type /topic or it's usually at the top of the window in your client
[06:16] <davidstri> Okay, thanks
[06:16] <DasEi> suma1: also df on current linux tells you the drive
[06:16] <topgun17> !topic davidstri
[06:16] <Nareth> DasEi: Ok, done
[06:17] <davidstri> !topic
[06:17] <DasEi>  Nareth:try again youtupe
[06:17] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: I might have missed your original question. You're right (mostly). It's a list of places to find packages that Ubuntu supports. They make up Ubuntu ... they're external, but without some of them there wouldn't really be an Ubuntu
[06:17] <guestadmin> topgun17: only right click does anything
[06:17] <Nareth> DasEi: Just did, to no avail.
[06:18] <DasEi>  Nareth:you have picture, but no sound ?
[06:18] <Jihui_Choi> And if I distribute my own iso file-based ubuntu-, Can I say everything is in the iso?
[06:19] <Nareth> DasEi: Indeed, Yes.
[06:19] <databits> does anyone know of any good xvid to mpg encoding programs used to make dvd's
[06:19] <databits>  ?
[06:19] <suma1> DasEi: k, ThankQ:). how to mount the partition?
[06:19] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: You're going to actually have to download the packages if you want to do that. The sources list just specifies where packages can be downloaded from. If you're trying to create a distribution, you'll need to download the packages you want to include.
[06:20] <DasEi> suma1: sudo mkdir /media/OS2
[06:20] <DasEi> suma1: sudo mount /dev/sdXX   /media/OS2
[06:20] <yaa_> help
[06:20] <yaa_> with passwd
[06:20] <Jihui_Choi> digitalchemist: I'll change just some package such as language packs.
[06:21] <yaa_> anybody
[06:21] <ActiveFrost> where I  can find DirectoryIndex for LAMP ?
[06:21] <digitalchemist> @yaa_: what do you need?
[06:21] <Jihui_Choi> all packages what I add in my iso can download from ubuntu repository
[06:21] <DasEi>  Nareth:close browser, sudao apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport
[06:21] <DasEi> sudo*
[06:22] <Jihui_Choi> Then, if I distribute just an iso single file, would it be ok?
[06:22] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: I think you can specify a filesystem source for packages. So, basically you'll download the packages you want to the filesystem, add that location to sources, and you can ship your own distro... though I don't know much more about it than that.
[06:22] <Nareth> DasEi: ok, one sec.
[06:22] <DasEi> !mount > suma1
[06:22] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: pretty much, yes
[06:23] <DasEi> !fstab > suma1
[06:23] <Sheezy> Can someone help me with WINE?
[06:23] <DasEi>  Nareth:try again youtube
[06:23] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: if you can get the packages you need so that they can be managed and wrap it into an ISO, you'll be fine
[06:23] <Sheezy> I'm trying to get a rather old game to work
[06:23] <topgun17> Sheezy: wineHq
[06:23] <DasEi> Sheezy: ask #wine-hq ?
[06:23] <Sheezy> Ah, so theres a channel on it
[06:23] <Sheezy> Thanks then
[06:24] <topgun17> Sheezy: /j #wineHq
[06:24] <amedia> hiiiiiiiiiii
[06:24] <Brando753> Is there a way to implement IRM in Ubuntu? Information Rights Managment
[06:24] <etzerd> Hello all
[06:24] <vd> allllllllloooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwww
[06:24] <Jihui_Choi> digitalchemist: Thank you a million.
[06:25] <etzerd> how can I check my OS to know if it a 32 or 64 bit version?
[06:25] <Jihui_Choi> you're really kind. thank you :)
[06:25] <DasEi> etzerd: uname -a
[06:25] <digitalchemist> @jihui_choi: hope it gave you something to work with   :-)
[06:25] <Nareth> DasEi: I already had it installed, and still no sound.
[06:25] <etzerd> thanks
[06:25]  * LinuxIsCommunism .
[06:26] <DasEi>  Nareth:alsamixer pcm rised/not muted ?
[06:26] <topgun17> Nareth: You might find my success by joining #pulseaudio
[06:26] <bitsbam> can someone suggest a good gtk theme switcher for awesome window manager?
[06:27] <Nareth> DasEi: no it's not
[06:27] <etzerd> DasEi: the result is "Linux etzerd-laptop 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:20 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux"
[06:27] <Nareth> topgun17: Ill try that.
[06:27] <DasEi>  Nareth:if the other sound is working, next idea would be a reinstall
[06:27] <LinuxIsCommunism> Linux is communism.
[06:28] <Nephilus> is there a circle dock for ubuntu?
[06:28] <DasEi> etzerd: 32 then
[06:28] <Nareth> DasEi: Kk, ty.
[06:28] <Nephilus> LinuxIsCommunism: ?
[06:28] <etzerd> DasEi: my laptop is 64 bit machine, therefore I better of with  a 64 bit version.
[06:28] <DasEi>  Nareth:sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport
[06:29] <DasEi> etzerd: 32 runs well too, unless you 're upper 4 gig ram not much difference
[06:29] <Cutter> hello
[06:29] <Nareth> DesEi: ok
[06:30] <Cutter> how to completely delete my evolution profile?
[06:30] <etzerd> I have 4 gig ram in that machine
[06:31] <guestadmin> Anyone know how to get sound from Flash 9 in Hardy? Conflict PulseAudio - ALSA?
[06:31] <DasEi> Nareth: it's intrepid ?
[06:32] <DasEi> etzerd: then 64 makes sense, as graphics also count as ram and lappy would only use approx 3 gb sys-ram in 32
[06:32] <Nareth> DasEi: Yes it is
[06:32] <etzerd> DasEi: thanks
[06:33] <deb-eater-88> guestadmin: Have you asked you question in either of the following two channels #pulseaudio or #alsa
[06:33] <guestadmin> deb-eater-88: here in freenode? good idea, will do
[06:33] <etzerd> DasEi: one more question. this machine have like 4 speaker and a sub but only 2 speaker play. How do I set the sound system to 5.1?
[06:34] <Lartza_> Good morning, I have a set up where ubuntu shares connection for my windows computer, but I would need to run server on windows, how would it get connections?
[06:35] <etzerd> DasEi: you see my question concerning the speakers?
[06:36] <Linux_Is_Illegal> Linux is illegal.
[06:36] <etzerd> Linux_Is_illegal: what are you talking about?
[06:36] <Cutter> how to completely delete my evolution profile?
[06:37] <Cutter> when I delete .evolution and .gconf/apps/evolution, my settings are still here
[06:37] <BadEagle> lol
[06:39] <Lartza_> Could someone confirm this command? iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d *ubuntu's external ip* -p tcp -m tcp --dport *my port(s)* -j DNAT --to-destination *eth1 ip(eth1 is to windows)*
[06:41] <oem> freyre
[06:41] <aaron> ubuntu is for fags who can't understand debian.
[06:41] <DasEi> etzerd: yes, you can set it in preferences > audio if the correct driver is loaded,  aumix is a simple gtk
[06:41] <centHOGG> heh
[06:42] <oem> wuat the  quit
[06:43] <Mike_lifeguard> Where are the themes for GNOME stored?
[06:43] <databits> if someone could help me out with a few linux things I would be greatly appreciative
[06:43] <oem> do you speak spanish
[06:43] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | databits
[06:43] <databits> I am new to the whole linux thing I am trying to get everything setup
[06:43] <Mike_lifeguard> !es | oem
[06:43] <DasEi> !es | oem
[06:43] <Mike_lifeguard> ...or not O.o
[06:45] <databits> does anyone know of any good dvd authoring programs
[06:45] <databits> I am trying to find a good program for authoring dvd's from xvid files
[06:45] <deb-eater-88> databits: k3b come to mind
[06:45] <databits> ok
[06:45] <databits> does that have a apt-get install ?
[06:45] <Lartza_> databits: QUick google found http://www.linux.com/articles/53702
[06:46] <Guest75801> hi everybody... i have a little question... ext4 is much much better than ext3?
[06:46] <DasEi> !devede | databits
[06:46] <DasEi> !info devede
[06:46] <Lartza_> databits: "Convert any video file to DVD with open source tools"
[06:46] <Lartza_> Would this forward mysql server requests to computer behind linux computer? iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 91.x.x.x -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3306 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <databits> lartza I am hoping to find something that has more of a gui interface
[06:47] <prikolchik> Guest75801: best to google. yes it is faster, but there are some unpleasant drawbacks (the rewrite issue) which was not fixed last time i checked
[06:47] <databits> does anything come to mind for you ?
[06:47] <Brando753> anyone now how to make firefox go back by hitting the backspace key in ubuntu, thatsn the only thing i miss from windows :P
[06:47] <prikolchik> Guest75801: I personally use ext3 until all the bugs are fixed and it is polished
[06:47] <Lartza_> databits: Why GUI?
[06:48] <DasEi> Nareth: did you get it to work ?
[06:48] <databits> well I guess it dosn't have to be but I do alot of  dvd burning
[06:48] <prikolchik> databits: tried googling "avi to dvd ubuntu" ?
[06:48] <Lartza_> databits: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring
[06:48] <databits> I burn a ton of dvd's so it is easier to have  gui base
[06:48] <Guest75801> ok.. tanx
[06:48] <Lartza_> It's a bit old(talks about 7.04) but check the programs
[06:48] <usser_> databits, devede
[06:49] <Lartza_> databits: Check what you like from there and what has enough features for you
[06:50] <BadEagle> how'd he write upside down like that?
[06:51] <BadEagle> meoblat001's leave message
[06:51] <databits> well I defenietly need something that is going to have very good quality results
[06:51] <TheFunkbomb> hello
[06:51] <databits> does anyone have any opinions on which software works the best for quality ?
[06:51] <prikolchik> BadEagle: looks like Greek
[06:51] <databits> I am also looking for some good lightscribe software
[06:51] <prikolchik> BadEagle: learn greek and have ur a upside down too =D
[06:51] <BadEagle> lol
[06:52] <sparkmonkey88> Ha funny BadEagle
[06:52] <usser_> ыыы
[06:52] <guestadmin> Problem fixed. Found here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732520 Sound in Firefox and Flash 9 (Hardy) :)
[06:52] <prikolchik> че?
[06:52] <TheFunkbomb> Can I help anyone with anything?
[06:52] <yaa_> манкей ты 88?
[06:52] <BadEagle> ƃuıʌɐǝן is just too cool
[06:53] <TheFunkbomb> !russian | yaa_
[06:53] <TheFunkbomb> I don't even know if that was russian
[06:53] <usser_> yep it was
[06:53] <BadEagle> lol
[06:53] <prikolchik> TheFunkbomb: yup =D
[06:53] <yaa_> it was chukcha
[06:53] <Lartza_> databits: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe
[06:53] <sparkmonkey88> !spanish | BadEagle
[06:54] <BadEagle> hey!
[06:54] <BadEagle> i dont' speako spanisho
[06:54] <Lartza_> databits: Learn to google and use the ubuntu documentation
[06:54] <prikolchik> TheFunkbomb: last time i was ob ubuntu-ru it was hopeless. I was being laughted on for being a noob =P
[06:54] <TheFunkbomb> Russians are hardcore
[06:54] <yaa_> yea
[06:54] <BadEagle> !deutsch | sparkmonkey88
[06:55] <bazhang> !offtopic
[06:55] <koolkartik> BladeNBrocade: thnx but i didnot found any packages using live cd but got the data
[06:55] <yaa_> !english | BadEagle
[06:55]  * BadEagle growls
[06:55] <bazhang> yaa_, BadEagle please stop
[06:55] <prikolchik> TheFunkbomb: when u are on this chanel, everyone wanna help but doesnt know much. on RU channel, everyone knows much but they dont wanna help
[06:56] <yaa_> chukcha oomniy
[06:56] <TheFunkbomb> prikolchik, what do you need help with?  I'm a noob but maybe I can help
[06:56] <bazhang> prikolchik, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[06:56] <InsertHome> lol, what'd he do wrong?
[06:56] <sparkmonkey88> !topic InsertHome
[06:57] <h8red> do i need to eventually defrag my hard drive after using linux for a while?
[06:57] <Lartza_> h8red: Never
[06:57] <vader> h8red: Nope.
[06:57] <TheFunkbomb> my computer keeps overheating.  I was hoping Ubuntu would have fixed that
[06:57] <h8red> woah
[06:58] <BadEagle> lol
[06:58] <sparkmonkey88> TheFunkbomb: Looks like its time to take you computer in to a local repair shopand askt  them to do  athrough clean out
[06:58] <TheFunkbomb> sparkmonkey88, I do that myself.
[06:58] <TheFunkbomb> it's a laptop
[06:59] <sparkmonkey88> TheFunkbomb: Radioshaq = can of compressed air + laptop + happy computing
[07:00] <vader> h8red: Look up ext3
[07:00] <TheFunkbomb> sparkmonkey88, yeah yeah, I know how to do it.  I take my laptop apart into small pieces all the time.
[07:00] <ziroday> TheFunkbomb: either that, or the temperature sensor is broke or ubuntu is reading it wrong
[07:00] <sparkmonkey88> TheFunkbomb: Radioshaq = can of compressed air + laptop + two and a half hours = happy computing
[07:00] <vader> h8red: Look up "ext3" on wiki to see why you don't need to defrag.\
[07:00] <ziroday> !defrag | h8red
[07:01] <TheFunkbomb> ziroday, I can feel the heat through the keyboard.  The fans are going.
[07:01] <Brando753> anyone now how to make firefox go back by hitting the backspace key in ubuntu, thatsn the only thing i miss from windows :P
[07:01] <ziroday> TheFunkbomb: then time to clean your machine or replace your fans
[07:01] <mimcpher> Brando753: its a setting in firefox.  Two seconds and i'll find it for you
[07:01] <TheFunkbomb> ziroday, yeah, I guess I gotta crack it open tomorrow
[07:02] <TheFunkbomb> I usually do it every 6 months but with summer coming up, I should do it.  I smoke cigarettes.  Not good for the fans
[07:02] <c0l2e> my webcam on sony vaio vgn-sz18gp ricoh is working on skype but not on ekiga and cheese... why?
[07:02] <centHOGG> <every month
[07:02] <mimcpher> Brando753: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[07:02] <yaa_> sony vaio sux
[07:02] <TheFunkbomb> I don't want to lose my uptime :D
[07:02] <h8red> do i need to get some sort of registry or system cleaner
[07:03] <bazhang> !ot > yaa_
[07:03] <vader> h8red: nope.
[07:03] <gregben_> h8red: In practical terms, no, you don't have to worry about defragmentation. In theory, yes, eventually the disk will become fragmented, but you can fix it by copying your data to a new filesystem on a fresh disk.
[07:03] <mimcpher> ext4 features defragging :P
[07:04] <ziroday> gregben_: or just run a defrag, and unless your disk is 80% full this is not an issue
[07:04] <``y7> i just installed ubuntu, it never asked me to setup a root pw, how do i go about logging into root?
[07:04] <TheFunkbomb> any of you use a cooling pad for your laptops?
[07:04] <ziroday> !root | ``y7
[07:04] <h8red> I bought a book to try to help me learn Linux, but I think it's beyond a beginner's scope, Classic Shell Scripting
[07:04] <sparkmonkey88> Is there native kernel support for ext4 yet?
[07:04] <ziroday> sparkmonkey88: in jaunty yes
[07:04] <TheFunkbomb> h8red, that's not a linux book.  That covers PART of linux
[07:04] <``y7> thx ziroday
[07:04] <nilson> sparkmonkey88, yes
[07:04] <mimcpher> sparkmonkey88: as of 2.6.29 (or 28?) it is "stable".
[07:04] <h8red> I want to learn the shell / command line stuff
[07:05] <vader> h8red: return that book, it's not for beginners.
[07:05] <TheFunkbomb> h8red, let me link you to the book I use
[07:05] <TheFunkbomb> it's a bible though
[07:05] <h8red> okay thanks
[07:05] <ziroday> !terminal | h8red
[07:05] <nilson> I started with the Unix Haters Handbook, then progressed to The Complete FreeBSH
[07:05] <nilson> BSD
[07:05] <centHOGG> y7 id tell you what to do but your nickname
[07:05] <gregben_> ziroday: What is the package name for 'defrag'? I did apt-get install defrag but that didn't work.
[07:05] <nilson> Then I installed Slackware, Gentoo, BSD, etc etc
[07:05] <``y7> i was actually wanting to login to root to install sudo and ssh, but i guess sudo is already here ;)
[07:05] <sparkmonkey88> mimcpher: How do i co about getting the files nessary to implement ext4
[07:05] <``y7> ssh installed, thx anyways centHOGG
[07:05] <nilson> I've been using Ubuntu for over a two years now though
[07:06] <TheFunkbomb> h8red, see if you can get this book:  http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail?sku=0137003889
[07:06] <ziroday> gregben_: one sc
[07:06] <vader> h8red: Wanna kick it old school eh? Strat with a good font and the program Screen. The CLI really rocks...
[07:06] <TheFunkbomb> it will give you the basics on everything
[07:06] <mimcpher> sparkmonkey88: I suggest you update to 9.04 (Currently in RC) if you wish to use ext4.
[07:06] <Lartza_> Ignore books in my opinion...
[07:06] <nilson> I'm a very advanced user; I am a research assistant at the University of Alabama and work with our high performance cluster and give Unix support to scientistrs
[07:06] <KyleK> !scrollkeeper
[07:06] <h8red> yes i'd like to kick it OS
[07:06] <isiah> nilson: are they hiring?
[07:06] <nilson> UA?
[07:07] <nilson> Do you live around UA?
[07:07] <Lartza_> h8red: You can get everything needed from the internet for free
[07:07] <`brandon`> hello i am having some trubble i am trying to ./configure a Egg Drop Bot but i keep getting this error, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/153858/
[07:07] <mimcpher> Haha, Unix support for scientists.
[07:07] <ziroday> gregben_: see http://askville.amazon.com/defrag-tune-Ubuntu-machine/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=8437568 basically use tune2fs to tune-up your filesystem
[07:07] <nilson> mimcpher, it's a common position in the HPC field
[07:07] <isiah> nilson: I might be moving there
[07:07] <TheFunkbomb> I go to the internet first for information.  Either this chan or the Ubuntu boards.  Book is good for reference
[07:07] <nilson> To Tuscaloosa?
[07:07] <Nareth> DasEi: sorry for the delay, no, it did not
[07:07] <mimcpher> nilson: i almost worked at the University of Toronto giving unix support for their physics HPC machine :P
[07:07] <nilson> isiah, Tuscaloosa is an awesome town IMO
[07:07] <isiah> nilson: I have a bachelors in electrical engineer
[07:07] <mimcpher> I decided I'd rather not :P
[07:07] <vader> h8red: Everything I learnt for the CLI I found on the web and here, on irc.
[07:08] <perturbed> i am on ubuntu 8.04 desktop . i want to upgrade to 9.04 desktop . how do i upgrade from the CD . i have 9.04 on the cd
[07:08] <nilson> mimcpher, I love my job :P
[07:08] <perturbed> can anybody help me ?
[07:08] <``y7> and now i have synergy going. ubuntu, here i come ;)
[07:08] <nilson> isiah, my current coworker is from India and has a degree in EE
[07:08] <root> shuai
[07:08] <mimcpher> nilson: I ended up taking another job that turned out to be mostly outlook helpdesk.  It was the wrong choice :P
[07:08] <perturbed> i am from india :D
[07:08] <nilson> I'm an undergrad sophomore, and I'm an EE major with Computer Science minor
[07:08] <ziroday> !offtopic
[07:08] <prikolchik> perturbed: lots of tutorials on the internet. LOTS
[07:08] <Sc0> hello
[07:09] <isiah> nilson: so i got a chance?
[07:09] <Lartza_> h8red: Seriously, forget paying for books, forget books, there is ton's of getting started on the internet, if you don't know some command use man(that's for manual) *your command*
[07:09] <sparkmonkey88> that book mentioned earlier is too damned exspensive for a college student on a 160 usd a week  weekly budget to afford
[07:09] <`brandon`> !Tcl | brandon
[07:09] <perturbed> i tried the terminal commands that dont seem to work prikochik
[07:09] <prikolchik> perturbed: do they give u an error? what is it?
[07:09] <Lartza_> Perturbed: WHat cd is it?
[07:09] <Lartza_> Perturbed: Is is live cd?(Is there a one? :S)
[07:10] <h8red> Lartza_:  Yeah I'd like to learn all that
[07:10] <Lartza_> *Is it
[07:10] <`brandon`> it says Tcl is installed but i don't know where the dir is
[07:10] <sparkmonkey88> Hasn't mark G.Sobel headr ofthe public domain
[07:10] <``y7> holly crap ubuntu makes stuff easy. i could get used to this ;)
[07:10] <perturbed> it says a window will open follow the commands ..but the window never opens
[07:10] <perturbed> i made that cd ..iso image ..i can use the live version .. i also verified the cd
[07:10] <Lartza_> h8red: Foget books, use free sources on the internet
[07:10] <mimcpher> Ah, sometimes books are nice though :P
[07:10] <Lartza_> perturbed: IMO you can only upgrade from the alternate cd
[07:10] <perturbed> whats the alternate cd
[07:10] <mimcpher> There's no direct update path from 8.04 to 9.04
[07:10] <h8red> Lartza_:  yeah, i'm going to return this shell scripting book, piss on it!
[07:11] <mimcpher> You have to go through 8.10
[07:11] <perturbed> the cd i made from the iso image is the alternate cd ?
[07:11] <mimcpher> (afaik)
[07:11] <prikolchik> perturbed: you can download from ubuntu website
[07:11] <Lartza_> perturbed: If you have live you can't upgrade using that cd
[07:11] <Lartza_> prikolchik: What I understanded, you didn't tell him that...
[07:11] <DasEi> Nareth: I'm goging offline now, too, maybe try to install opera until you get ff to work ?
[07:11] <perturbed> i have the iso image with me on the cd .. the live version works fine ..i also allows fresh installation ..but i want to upgrade and not do a fresh installation
[07:11] <perturbed> it *
[07:11] <Lartza_> perturbed: You can't
[07:12] <Lartza_> YOu have the wrong cd
[07:12] <perturbed> i allows fresh installation
[07:12] <texincali> could somone possibly help me with setting up my 2 monitors to work? im only getting one...i have a agp radeon 2600hd pro with 2 dvi ports...
[07:12] <perturbed> it *
[07:12] <mecoatwar> hello everybody
[07:12] <mecoatwar> how is life?
[07:12] <Lartza_> perturbed: IT IS THE WRONG CD
[07:12] <Lartza_> perturbed: ANd olso you need to upgrade to 8.10 first
[07:12] <Mal3ko> hi mecoatwar
[07:12] <perturbed> how do i upgrade from the cd then ? which is the right cd . i cant do it from the internet . i dont have a stable connection
[07:13] <ziroday> texincali: what driver?
[07:13] <Brando753> can u plz resend how to get firefox to go back with backspace?
[07:13] <mecoatwar> ok you know the first time you use a stick shift what its like?
[07:13] <ziroday> !upgrade | perturbed read this
[07:13] <Lartza_> perturbed: So you have 8.04?
[07:13] <mimcpher> Brando753: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[07:13] <perturbed> yes i have 8.04
[07:13] <texincali> the proprietary xlgf ati driver
[07:13] <mecoatwar> well
[07:13] <Lartza_> perturbed: THen you need to upgrade to 8.10
[07:13] <mecoatwar> ubuntu is like that for me
[07:13] <perturbed> cant upgrade it online
[07:13] <mecoatwar> like a stick shift car for the first time
[07:13] <ziroday> texincali: doesn't it have the catalyst control center or something similar?
[07:13] <texincali> yes
[07:13] <Lartza_> perturbed: What version do you want?
[07:13] <Nareth> DasEi: Thanks for you effort!! I'll do that.
[07:13] <ziroday> texincali: can't you use that?
[07:14] <texincali> 1 sec
[07:14] <perturbed> lartza_ : i have ubuntu 8.04 desktop
[07:14] <Lartza_> perturbed: BUt what do you want to upgrade to?
[07:14] <pelangi_> icha
[07:14] <ziroday> perturbed: you need the alternate 8.10 cd
[07:14] <perturbed> i want to upgrade to 9.04 desktop
[07:14] <ziroday> Lartza_: he can only upgrade to 8.10...
[07:14] <mimcpher> perturbed: You need to upgrade FIRST to 8.10, THEN, to 9.04.
[07:14] <Lartza_> perturbed: I would seriously concider getting internet to update packages after upgrade
[07:15] <`brandon`> as i say again
[07:15] <`brandon`> it says Tcl is installed but i don't know where the dir is
[07:15] <Lartza_> ziroday: He has the wrong 9.04 cd
[07:15] <`brandon`> can anyone help me
[07:15] <ziroday> perturbed: plus, 9.04 is not released yet.
[07:15] <mecoatwar> ok how do i install my soundcard......You can't get more general in a question then that can you
[07:15] <Lartza_> perturbed: You also need alternate cd's for installing, not the live ones
[07:15] <perturbed> my system is up-to-date .. and it allows me to upgrade to 8.10 ..but i dont have unlimited data usage . so i prefer the cd upgradation
[07:15] <ziroday> `brandon`: tclsh
[07:15] <mecoatwar> lets see how long it takes someone to notice my question
[07:15] <perturbed> how do i get the alternate cd ?
[07:15] <Sc0> mecoatwar: First you remove the case...
[07:16] <Sc0> :P
[07:16] <`brandon`> ziroday, what?
[07:16] <Lartza_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[07:16] <mecoatwar> :'(
[07:16] <ziroday> `brandon`: what do you want to do with tcl?
[07:16] <perturbed> can i upgrade directly to 9.04 from the alternate cd ?
[07:16] <Lartza_> perturbed: It's text based just for you to know
[07:16] <mecoatwar> ScO you are as helpful as a bag of rocks in a falling balloon
[07:16] <Lartza_> perturbed: No
[07:16] <Lartza_> That is 8.10 alternate
[07:16] <mecoatwar> lol
[07:16] <ziroday> perturbed: no. You need to upgrade to 8.10 first, then to 9.04
[07:16] <Sc0> mecoatwar: I assume you're past that step?
[07:16] <`brandon`> ziroday, i am trying to make a Egg Drop Bot
[07:16] <mecoatwar> wow
[07:16] <mecoatwar> really
[07:16] <mecoatwar> yes
[07:16] <ziroday> `brandon`: errors?
[07:16] <Lartza_> perturbed: And wait for 9.04 to be released...
[07:16] <perturbed> can i upgrade to 8.10 from the cd ..offline
[07:16] <mecoatwar> im laughing really hard right now that question made my day
[07:17] <Lartza_> perturbed: YES you got it!!!
[07:17] <`brandon`> ziroday, yes when i try to ./configure
[07:17] <mecoatwar> thats like saying first you plug it in
[07:17] <mecoatwar> then
[07:17] <mecoatwar> turn it on
[07:17] <ziroday> `brandon`: what is the error?
[07:17] <Sc0> Exactly!
[07:17] <Lartza_> Get the 8.10 alternate
[07:17] <mecoatwar> hey
[07:17] <`brandon`> ziroday, here is the errors
[07:17] <Lartza_> perturbed
[07:17] <ziroday> `brandon`: and why not install from the repo's?
[07:17] <`brandon`> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/153858/
[07:17] <mecoatwar> Sc0 want to start a private chat
[07:17] <perturbed> iso image of 8.10 alternate ?
[07:17] <`brandon`> repo's?
[07:17] <Sc0> Hey, I could have started with "First, you drive to Best Buy..." but you seem like you're on top of things :D
[07:17] <Sc0> Sure
[07:17] <mecoatwar> oh yeah
[07:18] <mecoatwar> ok how do you start a private chat
[07:18] <perturbed> so live cds do not support upgradation ?
[07:18] <ziroday> `brandon`: why not install eggdrop like you install every other app? Through synaptic/repo's/apt-get/gnome-app-install
[07:18] <mecoatwar> lets just show how much of a noob i am
[07:18] <texincali> i can only get clone to work
[07:18] <Lartza_> perturbed: Yes
[07:18] <ziroday> !enter > mecoatwar
[07:18] <Lartza_> perturbed: That is correct
[07:18] <ziroday> !pm > mecoatwar
[07:18] <dotblank> !grub | dotblank
[07:18] <Lartza_> perturbed: And you can't skip 8.04 to 9.04 when there is 8.10
[07:18] <texincali> it wont let me display 2 desktops at once....
[07:18] <Lartza_> perturbed: YOu have to go one by one
[07:19] <perturbed> i cannot skip 8.10 in the alternate cd . i mean can i get alternate for 9.04 directly ?
[07:19] <`brandon`> ziroday, i dont know how to.
[07:19] <perturbed> okay okay
[07:19] <ziroday> perturbed: you cannot go from 8.04 to 9.04 directly
[07:19] <ziroday> `brandon`: err how do you install every other app?
[07:19] <perturbed> so first step is to get alternate cd for 8.10
[07:19] <Lartza_> perturbed: ANd forget 9.04 for now ok?
[07:19] <perturbed> and then alternate for 9.04
[07:19] <mimcpher> Its like a linked list!  Though there are skips between LTR :P
[07:19] <Lartza_> perturbed: Don't get it
[07:19] <perturbed> is it not stable ?
[07:19] <`brandon`> sudo apt-get install apt-name
[07:20] <ziroday> perturbed: correct
[07:20] <Lartza_> perturbed: Wait for like... under 7 days to it released?
[07:20] <dotblank> can I use multiple setup() commands to install grub on multiple drives at one time?
[07:20] <`brandon`> or i download it from terminal
[07:20] <ziroday> `brandon`: right! so in this case its sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[07:20] <perturbed> anybody here has 9.04 ?
[07:20] <mimcpher> Lartza_: 10 days I think?
[07:20] <Lartza_> perturbed: Instructions for you:
[07:20] <ziroday> perturbed: 9.04 is _not_ stable. Wait for it to be released
[07:20] <velle> Hi, I currently have a dual boot with ubuntu and xp via GRUB. Now I need to reinstall XP, how do I do that without touching the Ubuntu, and maintaining the dual boot?
[07:20] <perturbed> so after 7 days it will be available for online upgradation ?
[07:20] <ziroday> perturbed: yes
[07:20] <`brandon`> now it's telling me
[07:20] <dotblank> ziroday: Is very right and you are better off waiting
[07:21] <`brandon`> eggdrop is already the newest version
[07:21] <perturbed> i thought 9.04 was already released
[07:21] <sparkmonkey88> !grub | dotblank
[07:21] <perturbed> :D
[07:21] <ziroday> `brandon`: then you already have it installed
[07:21] <`brandon`> ziroday: where is it then?
[07:21] <ziroday> velle: okay, have you made some empty space for windows?
[07:21] <perturbed> i was about to do a fresh installation ..i liked the interface
[07:21] <dotblank> sparkmonkey88: just read that but I can issue setup() more then once without having to re-enter grub
[07:21] <Lartza_> perturbed: Get 8.10 alternate cd, burn it, upgrade 8.04 to 8.10, update packages from internet, wait 10 days, download 9.04 alternate, upgrade 8.10 > 9.04, update packages from teh internet
[07:21] <dotblank> sparkmonkey88: can*
[07:21] <perturbed> okay .. i got that
[07:22] <Lartza_> perturbed: I have used the laternate
[07:22] <velle> ziroday: yes, already have xp on a ntfs partition
[07:22] <Lartza_> perturbed: Well, server cd which has the same kind of installer
[07:22] <Lartza_> perturbed: It's not hard
[07:22] <perturbed> so alternate cd is only for upgradations ?
[07:22] <Lartza_> perturbed: No you can get fres install too
[07:22] <ziroday> velle: okay, well you will need to have blank space for the windows install. Windows will overwrite grub and you will have to use the livecd to restore it
[07:22] <ziroday> !grub | velle
[07:22] <perturbed> let me try if i can get alternate cds
[07:22] <Lartza_> But no live or real graphics, check the screenshot
[07:23] <perturbed> is fedora better than ubuntu ?
[07:23] <Lartza_> perturbed: Yes and no
[07:23] <sparkmonkey88> !grub | dotblank
[07:23] <ziroday> !best | perturbed
[07:23] <centHOGG> perturbed: honestly nah
[07:23] <velle> dotblank and ziroday: thanks
[07:23] <Lartza_> perturbed: THe packages are newer, but it's less stavle
[07:23] <perturbed> okay ..so many of you ppl here use ubuntu ?
[07:23] <ziroday> `brandon`: well what are you looking for?
[07:23] <Lartza_> There is SELinux default
[07:23] <centHOGG> i'll even say centos is better than fedora :P
[07:24] <`brandon`> ziroday: eggdrop
[07:24] <ziroday> perturbed: this is the ubuntu channel. So obviously yes
[07:24] <ziroday> `brandon`: /usr/bin/eggdrop
[07:24] <mimcpher> Lartza_: man, I never thought I'd hear somebody describe something as newer but less stable than ubuntu.
[07:24] <perturbed> haha yes
[07:24] <`brandon`> ziroday: ah ty
[07:24] <mimcpher> Lartza_: unless I understood you backwards
[07:24] <Lartza_> mimcpher: Whhat?
[07:24] <Lartza_> I mean packages you get from teh fedora repository are newer, sometimes even beta
[07:24] <ziroday> `brandon`: also take a look in /usr/lib/eggdrop and /usr/share/doc/eggdrop
[07:24] <Lartza_> BUt the whole system is less stable than ubuntu
[07:25] <perturbed> okay
[07:25] <mimcpher> Lartza_: In the old days of ubuntu, it used to be a buggy pile of stuff cobbled from debian unstable :P
[07:25] <Lartza_> mimcpher: Days have changed huh? :)
[07:25] <`brandon`> ziroday: eggdrop is not located in /usr/bin/
[07:25] <Lartza_> perturbed: I have used fedora and I liked it, but I'm forced to use some shitty windows
[07:25] <mimcpher> Lartza_: Indeed.  A few years ago I wouldn't have believed ubuntu would have been polished as much as it is.  Or that I'd be using it.
[07:26] <bazhang> Lartza_, watch the language
[07:26] <ziroday> `brandon`: okay, does ls -la /usr/bin | grep eggdrop output anything
[07:26] <deb-eater-88> I happen to be running the testing release of Debian on my Dell dimension 4600 c which has been up for  1 day 1:45 with now major failiours
[07:26] <perturbed> can i download alternate cd for 8.10 from torrents .. i have unlimited usage during off-peak hours only
[07:26] <Tugle> is there a way to configure notify-osd?
[07:26] <ziroday> perturbed: y4es
[07:26] <Lartza_> perturbed: Yes
[07:26] <ziroday> Tugle: ask in #ubuntu+1 and no
[07:26] <`brandon`> it tells me this
[07:26] <Lartza_> bazhang: Yes sir...
[07:26] <perturbed> okay i'll search for it
[07:26] <`brandon`> brandon@ubuntu:~$ ls -la /usr/bin | grep eggdrop
[07:26] <`brandon`> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root   root<PHONE_NUMBER>-10-04 03:30 eggdrop
[07:27] <kyle_> Is there software that i can put on a usb drive that will boot, then let me install from choice of iso files on that drive. In other words... the system boots the usb, then redirects booting to an iso
[07:27] <Lartza_> perturbed: What? STOP THERE
[07:27] <ziroday> `brandon`: right, so it _is_ there.
[07:27] <perturbed> woops
[07:27] <Lartza_> perturbed: You search what from where?
[07:27] <perturbed> google
[07:27] <mimcpher> kyle_: Yes.  Unfortunately I am just leaving :P
[07:27] <Lartza_> Maybe wait a little?
[07:27] <`brandon`> ziroday: so i need to be root to access that file?
[07:27] <perturbed> alternate cd for ubuntu 8.10 torrents
[07:27] <Lartza_> perturbed: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[07:28] <Lartza_> Ubuntu has OFFICIAL torernts for every cd
[07:28] <`brandon`> how do i do that without using terminal?
[07:28] <prikolchik> kyle_: umm.. why dont u just create a USB startup disk?
[07:28] <ziroday> `brandon`: no, all users can read and execute that file. Do you understand what you are doing? What are you trying to do?
[07:28] <perturbed> can i use bittorrents on those mirrors
[07:28] <perturbed> i want to pause the downloading in peak hours
[07:28] <Lartza_> perturbed: Have you the site open?
[07:28] <prikolchik> kyle_: no iso's and it boots from it and u can install Ubuntu just like from live CD?
[07:28] <taisteluorava> Hey, could someone help me to get x800xt to work properly on ubuntu 8.10? I have already tested a newest fglrx drivers, but it seem not working properly.
[07:28] <`brandon`> ziroday: i am trying to go to that file from
[07:28] <Lartza_> perturbed: It reads "Alternate installer details"?
[07:28] <perturbed> its openeing
[07:28] <`brandon`> file browser
[07:28] <kyle_> prikolchik, i think it would be pretty nice to have my collection of isos on one stick that i can choose to boot from
[07:29] <ziroday> `brandon`: well have you gone to /usr/bin?
[07:29] <`brandon`> yes
[07:29] <Lartza_> perturbed: There should be "BitTorrent" then little more down "Ubuntu 8.10"
[07:29] <``y7> why can't i sudo apt-get install in two different terminals at the same time?
[07:29] <Lartza_> perturbed: Then "ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent"
[07:29] <Lartza_> Clcik that and done
[07:29] <ziroday> ``y7: because sudo was not designed like that.
[07:29] <``y7> ziroday, so how would i go about installing two apps at the same time?
[07:29] <Lartza_> perturbed: Remember that next time, ubuntu has torrents for every cd :)
[07:30] <ziroday> ``y7: you don't. You wait for one to finish first.
[07:30] <koolkartik> :)
[07:30] <`brandon`> ziroday: i am looking at /usr/bin right now
[07:30] <perturbed> okay .. and the rest is same as other torrents
[07:30] <`brandon`> ziroday: and i dont see a eggdrop dir
[07:30] <ziroday> `brandon`: yes, and eggdrop is in there.
[07:30] <Lartza_> perturbed: Totally
[07:30] <ziroday> `brandon`: its not a dir, its a single file
[07:30] <bazhang> ``y7, just put them in the same apt-get install command
[07:30] <`brandon`> so its a file not a dir
[07:30] <``y7> bazhang: apt-get install thunderbird firefox       <----- something like that?
[07:30] <Lartza_> perturbed: Torrents aren't just from piratebay or whatever, many bigger programs and games offer torrents as download too on their own site
[07:30] <ziroday> `brandon`: yes, its the executable. What are you trying to do?
[07:31] <prikolchik> kyle_: http://tinyurl.com/dbphqh
[07:31] <bazhang> ``y7, yep
[07:31] <ziroday> ``y7: yep
[07:31] <``y7> thx
[07:31] <perturbed> okay
[07:31] <perturbed> is alternate for 9.04 released ?
[07:31] <koolkartik> np
[07:31] <ziroday> perturbed: no. Its still in testing
[07:31] <Lartza_> perturbed: Don't even think about downloading it
[07:31] <Lartza_> If it would have been released
[07:31] <perturbed> okay
[07:32] <Lartza_> Wait for the official, last release, it's release candidate now
[07:32] <sdakpos> hi i have weird problem
[07:32] <perturbed> i have 9.04 live cd . i thgt i can upgrade it from that
[07:32] <`brandon`> ziroday: i am just trying to make a Egg Drop Bot
[07:32] <ziroday> sdakpos: what is it?
[07:32] <prikolchik> sdakpos: more info?
[07:32] <sdakpos> my desktop suddenly changed it's PATH
[07:32] <Lartza_> perturbed: Sadly you can't :(
[07:32] <perturbed> i cannot have unetbootin on my 8.04
[07:32] <sdakpos> it's like /home/user/`/ instead of /home/user/Desktop
[07:32] <perturbed> so i thgt i should try an upgrade
[07:33] <Lartza_> Try 8.10
[07:33] <sdakpos> but the Desktop dir is still there
[07:33] <Lartza_> :=
[07:33] <perturbed> yeah
[07:33] <sdakpos> and it's empty
[07:33] <perturbed> waste a dvd :(
[07:33] <perturbed> wasted *
[07:33] <perturbed> lol
[07:33] <ziroday> `brandon`: read http://www.eggheads.org/support/egghtml/1.6.19/ on how to configure it
[07:33] <Lartza_> Why DVD? :O
[07:33] <ziroday> `brandon`: as well as http://www.egghelp.org/
[07:33] <Lartza_> Cd's would be less download
[07:34] <perturbed> yeah i didnt have a cd so used a dvd for it
[07:34] <taisteluorava> http://paste.ubuntu.com/153868/   This is how my xorg looks now. I m trying to get ati open driver's to work but have not clue to how go forward.
[07:34] <Lartza_> Could somebody finally tell me if this command works to forward port on linux gateway(mysql in example)? iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 91.x.x.x -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3306 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:34] <Lartza_> perturbed: Don't try to burn cd iso on dvd :)
[07:34] <`brandon`> ziroday: i just wanted to know where the Tcl file is located so i can redo my ./configure
[07:35] <Lartza_> Also get rewritable dvd's perhaps?
[07:35] <perturbed> lol why ?
[07:35] <perturbed> haha okay
[07:35] <ziroday> `brandon`: why, you _already_ have it installed
[07:35] <sdakpos> prikolchik, ziroday : my desktop path have changes, all my desktop icons are in /home/user/`/ instead of /home/user/Desktop but the Desktop directory is still there
[07:35] <thephoenix04> hey. anyone know where to find help for wep cracking using ubuntu?
[07:35] <Lartza_> perturbed: Atleast linux iso, which should be bootable doesnt function when burned to dvd :D
[07:35] <Lartza_> if it's cd iso, not dvd
[07:35] <ziroday> thephoenix04: we can't help you with that here.
[07:35] <`brandon`> did you see the link i posted
[07:35] <revolut10n> @thephoenix04: Google?
[07:35] <revolut10n> :)
[07:36] <usser_> thephoenix04, if you're going there, you should know what you're doing, theres plenty of tutorials too
[07:36] <Lartza_> thephoenix04: A****a**
[07:36] <`brandon`> ziroday: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/153858/
[07:36] <perturbed> the live cd is working fine though
[07:36] <prikolchik> sdakpos: srry dude i really dont know
[07:36] <ziroday> `brandon`: you already have eggdrop installed
[07:36] <Lartza_> perturbed: You got live cd and burned it to dvd?
[07:36] <`brandon`> yes its a damn bot
[07:37] <perturbed> yes
[07:37] <Lartza_> 700mb or something?
[07:37] <Lartza_> not 4gb?
[07:37] <Lartza_> 2?
[07:37] <perturbed> yes 700mb
[07:37] <ziroday> `brandon`: to run it just do eggdrop
[07:37] <Lartza_> Why didn't mine work :(
[07:37] <perturbed> 700mb on 4 .7 gb dvd
[07:37] <Bragex9> I have installed a .xpi package into firefox. Can I delete the .xpi archive after the installation has succeded?
[07:37] <Lartza_> It didn't boot
[07:37] <perturbed> lol
[07:37] <`brandon`> ziroday: that makes no sence to me
[07:37] <Lartza_> Bragex9: Yes
[07:37] <thephoenix04> i know kind of what im doing. do you guys know any really good programs for sniffing, package analysis and wep cracking?
[07:37] <centHOGG> Bragex9: affirmative
[07:37] <Bragex9> ok, thanks
[07:37] <Lartza_> thephoenix04: Yes
[07:38] <Lartza_> But we can't tell
[07:38] <``y7> what program does ubuntu use for rar files?
[07:38] <ziroday> `brandon`: in a terminal type 'eggdrop'
[07:38] <Lartza_> Check #nethack(joke) :)
[07:38] <ziroday> !info unrar | ``y7
[07:38] <revolut10n> y7: rar :)
[07:38] <taco> hey room wuzzup ?
[07:38] <`brandon`> ziroday: i get this error
[07:38] <`brandon`> Eggdrop v1.6.19+SSL (C) 1997 Robey Pointer (C) 2008 Eggheads
[07:38] <`brandon`> [23:38] --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.19+SSL (Sat Apr 18 2009)
[07:38] <`brandon`> [23:38] * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)
[07:38] <FloodBot1> `brandon`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:39] <ziroday> `brandon`: yes, you need to configure the bot.
[07:39] <usser_> thephoenix04, kismet and aircrack is pretty much all you need, also it helps to help 2 laptops, 1 to inject packets into the network, speeds up the crack considerably
[07:39] <`brandon`> so i need to use make the .conf file then load it into the eggdrop
[07:39] <`brandon`> ?
[07:39] <ziroday> `brandon`: yes, you need to configure the bot
[07:40] <perturbed> whats the difference between ubuntu cd and dvd versions ?
[07:40] <taco> ok so how do i go about blocking invasive pervs that don't value others' privacy ?
[07:40] <ziroday> perturbed: dvd has more packages
[07:40] <thephoenix04> thanks usser_. but when i try to use kismet, it gives me an error.
[07:41] <ziroday> taco: in what sense?
[07:41] <centHOGG> band name
[07:41] <usser_> thephoenix04, google is your friend, im not going to help you with that sorry
[07:41] <perturbed> bye all
[07:41] <thephoenix04> Launching kismet_server: //usr/bin/kismet_server
[07:41] <thephoenix04> Suid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.
[07:41] <thephoenix04> No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.
[07:41] <thephoenix04> Non-RFMon VAPs will be destroyed on multi-vap interfaces (ie, madwifi-ng)
[07:41] <thephoenix04> Enabling channel hopping.
[07:41] <FloodBot1> thephoenix04: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <thephoenix04> Enabling channel splitting.
[07:41] <taco> ewvery time i try to get on the net i have some jerk trying to block my music...
[07:42] <ziroday> thephoenix04: for the second time. We can _not_ help you with that here.
[07:42] <perturbed> thanks for your help
[07:42] <ziroday> taco: block?
[07:42] <shay26> Hello , my laptop fall down from the table before few months , until now the laptop worked fine , last night i noticed the laptop got stuck when i trying to open file , my laptop installed with Ubuntu 8.10 does Ubuntu have tool for checking bad sectors ?
[07:42] <Betatesting> hello, I installed the new ubuntu...  Go to Appearance > Desktop Effects
[07:44] <techII> im having a problem with my laptop, hooking it up to my tv
[07:44] <taco> anything i can do program wise in ubuntu ?
[07:44] <centHOGG> what router
[07:44] <ziroday> taco: only resetting your router.
[07:44] <centHOGG> no
[07:44] <taco> like scan my router or?
[07:44] <centHOGG> nmap -sT localhost
[07:44] <centHOGG> gl
[07:44] <taco> unplug.oh otay.
[07:44] <techII> if the tv is connected at startup, i get a completely black screen, and can not switch to a virtual console
[07:45] <ziroday> taco: why not try directly connect to the modem?
[07:45] <taisteluorava> Could someone help me to get 800xt work properly with ubuntu 8.10. I think open drivers are only option with x800xt, and my xorg look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/153872/. Compiz is working but there is still some lag's. Scrolling in firefox lags also.
[07:45] <Betatesting> error, desktop effects could not be enabled
[07:45] <taco> i am
[07:45] <``y7> is there a way to install mirc onto ubuntu?
[07:45] <ziroday> Betatesting: what graphics card?
[07:45] <techII> if i connect it after the machine has booted, and tell it to clone my desktop and adjust the resolution for my tv, it freezes
[07:45] <ziroday> ``y7: yes, through wine. But why?
[07:45] <``y7> ziroday, because i love mirc. thx :)
[07:46] <centHOGG> xchat
[07:46] <taco> what all do i need to try out mythtv ?
[07:46] <``y7> i have pages and pages of scripts, it'd be a bitch to learn xchat scripting and re-write them
[07:46] <ziroday> taco: just install mythtv's packages
[07:46] <centHOGG> k
[07:46] <ziroday> ``y7: watch the language
[07:46] <dotblank> Betatesting: can you paste "glxinfo | grep renderer"
[07:46] <taco> does ubuntu have it ?
[07:46] <``y7> ziroday, i'm sorry
[07:47] <techII> any ideas? (this started happening within the past 24 hours, i do not remember changing any configuration)
[07:47] <ziroday> taco: yes
[07:47] <Betatesting> ziroday, radion 9800 pro
[07:47] <killedkillerb> how can i resize my ext3 partition after i
[07:47] <killedkillerb> already am running
[07:47] <taco> cool thanks all i'm out.
[07:47] <ziroday> Betatesting: should be fine, paste what dotblank wants
[07:47] <InsertHome> http://zutils.co.cc
[07:47] <centHOGG> killedkillerb: ext3 is a pain... sorry
[07:47] <prikolchik> shay26: better use a tool from ur HDD manufacturer. You could try Hiren's Boot CD
[07:47] <centHOGG> reiserfs & acronis
[07:47] <ziroday> InsertHome: ?
[07:47] <Betatesting> Desktop effects could not be enabled
[07:48] <sdakpos> but the Desktop dir is still there
[07:48] <Betatesting> beta issue?
[07:48] <velle> ziroday: If I follow the guide you sent me to install GRUB, will GRUB know of my Linux OS and show a menu with it? Or will it maybe just show me a GRUB prompt?
[07:48] <thephoenix04> well does anyone know of any irc channels that help with hacking (good hacking, not the bad kind)
[07:48] <InsertHome> nvm i'm stupid
[07:48] <ziroday> velle: no it will find all the installed OS's
[07:48] <Betatesting> thephoenix04, what would you need help with
[07:48] <ziroday> thephoenix04: ask in #freenode
[07:48] <velle> ziroday: great
[07:48] <ziroday> Betatesting: are you running jaunty?
[07:49] <Betatesting> not likely that you would find people willing to hold your hand
[07:49] <Blinkiz> Hi. How can I install packages without it's dependencies?
[07:49] <GQ> register perrier
[07:49] <vadi> where i can find logs for applications like vlc or others?
[07:49] <thephoenix04> thanks
[07:49] <``y7> is ubuntu the same with updates? apt-get upgrade and then apt-get update?
[07:49] <techII> going to try this again, system will probably hang
[07:49] <ziroday> vadi: /var/log, but I don't think vlc logs
[07:50] <vadi> ziroday, but there are no logs for those apps
[07:50] <dotblank> Betatesting: can you paste "glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version"" in here?
[07:50] <prikolchik> Blinkiz: doubt u can. why need that?
[07:50] <ziroday> ``y7: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade. Or just use the update-manager that will appear when there is updates
[07:50] <Betatesting> ziroday, Jaunty is the new 9.whatever, than yes
[07:50] <ziroday> vadi: as I said, vlc doesn't log by default
[07:50] <``y7> ziroday, i already did it in the opposite order, will that effect anything major?
[07:50] <ziroday> Betatesting: you need to ask in #ubuntu+1. Not here
[07:50] <ziroday> ``y7: not reallty
[07:50] <vadi> ziroday, how can i do that? if i may ask you
[07:51] <Betatesting> thx
[07:51] <ziroday> vadi: just open a terminal and type in vlc to see what it outputs
[07:51] <Blinkiz> prikolchik, dependencies error in jaunty I think
[07:51] <``y7> ziroday, thx.
[07:51] <ziroday> Blinkiz: jaunty is in #ubuntu+1
[07:51] <ziroday> vadi: or if you want it to put it into a file just do vlc > /path/to/file.log
[07:51] <vadi> ziroday, ok buddy, i'll be back - thanks
[07:52] <Betatesting> nknown chip id 0x9442, can't guess.
[07:52] <Betatesting> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.4
[07:52] <Blinkiz> ziroday, Yeah, but no one answers there. Am my question is just simple "how to install a package without dependencies?"
[07:52] <ziroday> Blinkiz: if you have a jaunty issue you need to be in #ubuntu+1.
[07:52] <ziroday> Betatesting: same with you :)
[07:52] <Betatesting> ;-)
[07:53] <Blinkiz> ziroday, okay, Say I have intrepid. How can I then install a package without its dependencies?
[07:53] <Lartza_> databits is having some problems
[07:53] <databits> Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[07:53] <Lartza_> 500GB sata, formatted to ntfs, shows in fdisk but without partitions
[07:53] <databits> I am trying to get this drive to be usable
[07:53] <dotblank> Blinkiz: Clever
[07:53] <Lartza_> Data on disk
[07:54] <shay26> what are the steps needed to fix/reinstall GRUB ?
[07:54] <dotblank> !grub | shay26
[07:54] <vadi> ziroday, that will not help unfortunately ; is there a way to make such a log file for an app
[07:54] <Lartza_> shay26: Put ubuntu cd in, couple commands and done
[07:55] <techII> i can tell it to output to my tv, but when i tell it to change resolution so the output isn't stretched out it freezes, anyone have any ideas?
[07:55] <Lartza_> shay26: Check the first link up, i have done it, not hard
[07:56] <dotblank> vadi: for vlc its easy "vlc -v 2 >> logfile.txt"
[07:56] <techII> anyone know why a system would freeze up when X starts when multiple monitors are connected?
[07:56] <ibbod0> i am having a problem with gparted showing my HD as unallocated, how do i fix this?
[07:57] <vadi> dotblank. I actually want that for some other app; can't find a problem and the log file would be helpful
[07:57] <Betatesting> ubuntu1 is ignoring me...
[07:57] <databits> can someone help me out with my hd issue ?
[07:58] <Omen_20> hi everyone
[07:59] <vadi> dotblank, is the -v option working for all apps this way?
[08:00] <dotblank> vadi: Only most of them.. you should do a --help to see what options there are to increase verbosity
[08:00] <Coolaks> there is a bug in installation i think.. when u install jaunty on ur 2nd hard drive it is not able to install grub automatically..
[08:01] <Coolaks> is it known?
[08:01] <tc111> why would this line in a file under cron.d run continuously: * 2,9,17,23    * * *	root		/etc/init.d/aptmirlpia > /dev/null 2>&1
[08:01] <thephoenix04> i need some help installing kismet
[08:02] <lila> hi
[08:02] <lila> nyone online
[08:02] <vadi> dotbank, thanks - I have a problem with viewing pictures thru ssh when i connect with my vps; i can play mp3 and view text file but somehow not images
[08:02] <shay26> Lartza_: my laptop installed with 2 operating systems (Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit , Windows vista) i suspect my laptop have some bad sectors , i trying to open few times some file and the Ubuntu got stuck , last time my laptop got stuck i did restart and now i am getting on the GRUB error msg : Error 17 ?
[08:03] <thephoenix04> can anyone help me with installing kismet?
[08:03] <vadi> i get this message when i try viewing images: no image fond in 'ssh//myserveraddress
[08:03] <Lartza_> shay26: Wait a sec
[08:04] <Lartza_> Firefox won't fire up :(
[08:04] <thephoenix04> kismet?
[08:04] <thephoenix04> anyone?
[08:04] <nowy> hello people from europe
[08:05] <Lartza_> !ops thephoenix04 Kismet and aircrack help to crack wep
[08:05] <nowy> anyone knows about routes,wifi bridges,,,??
[08:06] <thephoenix04> Lartza - right. i need help with an error message. im trying to get into my own wireless router : )
[08:06] <nowy> i need link 2 routers (3com &Comtrend) via wifi at home...i only can comtrend could see 3com ssid and mac, but i can't connect and routingg it...:(
[08:06] <Lartza_> thephoenix04: Like we all do...
[08:06] <Lartza_> thephoenix04: enter the correct key and you get in
[08:07] <Lartza_> shay26: So what are you doing whenn the error comes?
[08:07] <dotblank> nowy: yes?
[08:07] <shay26> Lartza_: noting , the computer stuck at the Grub
[08:08] <Lartza_> So before you get to os list?
[08:08] <Lartza_> Or after you select windows or linux?
[08:08] <nowy> hi dotblank , is it possible link via wifi 2routers like 3com&comntrend ?
[08:08] <macvr> hi all... what is the command to identify ongoing net connections
[08:08] <macvr> ?
[08:08] <Lartza_> shay26: But sorry I need to go
[08:08] <shay26> Lartza_: before i getting the os list
[08:09] <Lartza_> shay26: But that is "easy" to fix propably
[08:09] <dotblank> nowy: can you clarify?
[08:09] <Lartza_> You will get help
[08:11] <nowy> well, i've a 3com router connected a hard disk (for files server) in other ares     of my home. and i've got another (Comtrend) here, in this pc , with dsl internet conection. i want link this 2 router in local area network via wifi dotblank
[08:12] <vadi> need help guys - when connected thru ssh with my VPS I can play mp3 files, view text files, can't view images unfortunately
[08:13] <tc111> why would this line in a file under cron.d run continuously: * 2,9,17,23    * * * root  /etc/init.d/aptmirlpia > /dev/null 2>&1
[08:13] <blip-> apuntu
[08:13] <dotblank> oh
[08:13] <betatesting> Still having this issue, any ideas?
[08:14] <dotblank> nowy: so you wish to use the 3co to connect to the Comtrend?
[08:15] <nowy> dotblank yes. my file server has a LAN (ethernet)  only, it's because i've got  the 3com switched there
[08:15] <dotblank> dotblank: well, I am not sure if the 3com will at as a wireless bridge.. you may be able to load dd-wrt on it
[08:15] <dotblank> act*
[08:19] <blip-> greetings,  I installed kubuntu 8.10 recently and it came with kde 4.1 and desktop 3D effects worked fine on my nvidia 8600GT laptop ... so I installed kde 4.2.2 through backports and it's working fine, except the desktop effects don't get enabled any more.... Trying to enable them tells me:
[08:19] <blip-> "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type."
[08:20] <blip-> nvm I'm asking in kubutu
[08:21] <betatesting> installing nautilus-open-terminal did nothing
[08:21] <dotblank> betatesting: have you restarted the session?
[08:22] <betatesting> restarted the pc
[08:22] <betatesting> ?
[08:22] <dotblank> hmm
[08:22] <RPG_Master> QUIT
[08:22] <blip-> betatesting: as in, log out and back in
[08:22] <betatesting> as in restarted more than once
[08:23] <dotblank> betatesting: did instal through packages or manually?
[08:23] <betatesting> ismt there a different way to do it?
[08:23] <betatesting> no, did sudo aptitude get bla bla
[08:23] <dotblank> betatesting: that usually works.. maybe its broken in 9.04
[08:24] <betatesting> :(
[08:25] <cousin_luigi> hello
[08:25] <dotblank> Hi!
[08:25]  * cousin_luigi recently upgraded to jaunty, but the update manager doesn't appear to be working anymore
[08:25] <betatesting> whats a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[08:25] <bazhang> !players > betatesting
[08:26] <dotblank> cousin_luigi: join ubuntu+1 and ask there
[08:26] <cousin_luigi> the output of `ps ax` suggests it's running
[08:26] <`Ned> hello, I'm on ubuntu 8.10 and I can't copy anything to DVD
[08:26] <dotblank> betatesting: For lots of music Rhythem box
[08:26] <Wavicle> Hi Everyone. According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/subversion, I can install subversion 1.5.1 from hardy-backports. When I do 'sudo apt-get install -t hardy-backports subversion' it doesn't upgrade. What am I doing wrong?
[08:26] <cousin_luigi> the output of `ps ax` suggests it's running
[08:27] <cousin_luigi> dotblank: thanks
[08:27] <nowy> 3com: 3CRWDR100Y(A)-72 , and comtrend: CT-5361 but i can't ge to link each other.. :(
[08:27] <dotblank> Wavicle: do you have backports enables in software sources?
[08:27] <Wavicle> It says "subversion is already the newest version"
[08:28] <Wavicle> dotblank: Oh man, I thought I did, and I double-checked, but it looks like in my /etc/apt/source.list file, it didn't change "gutsy-backports" to "hardy-backports"
[08:28] <dotblank> Wavicle: :)
[08:29] <thephoenix04> hi
[08:29] <Wavicle> That is kinda weird though. I just ran the gutsy->hardy upgrade process. All the sources got updated, but not backports (it was #'d out when I did the upgrade)
[08:30] <thephoenix04> i was downloading a program and i got an error: configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[08:30] <thephoenix04> what does this mean and what do i have to do to fix it?
[08:30] <Wavicle> Okay, how do I also install the "suggested" packages?
[08:30] <bkw> When I maximize a window in gnome the bottom gets below the taskbar, how can I change the bottom border?
[08:31] <dotblank> Wavicle: should just work with update manager or aptitude
[08:31] <dotblank> thephoenix04: have you tried installing the packages for them
[08:31] <Wavicle> dotblank: Okay, I'll know soon enough I suppose.
[08:31] <Wavicle> I'll be in big trouble if it breaks though :)
[08:31] <thephoenix04> it says the libncurses package is already installed but not the libcurses. i went the synaptic manager and there are a few options for libcurses but i don't know which to choose.
[08:32] <dotblank> bkw: Are you running desktop effects
[08:32] <bkw> dotblank: all visual effects should be off, or that is what I've selected at least.
[08:32] <dotblank> thephoenix04: are you compiling somthing or just running a binary file
[08:32] <thephoenix04> im configuring
[08:33] <dotblank> bkw: you could reset your panel configs by deleting the .gconf folder in your home folder
[08:33] <Wavicle> Whew! Looks like it worked. I guess I don't have to update my resume!
[08:33] <Zedde> Hello , If I do apt-cache search opera I get 50+ results, and most of the dosn't have the word opera in it, why ?
[08:33] <dotblank> thephoenix04: ok look for libcurses-dev and libncurses-dev
[08:34] <dotblank> Zedde: This is very conditional
[08:34] <guja> Happy Easter to all Orthodox people who celebrate it today!
[08:34] <KyleK> how important is scrollkeeper?
[08:35] <Zedde> dotblank: is there a way just search for the word "opera" nothing ells ? or starts with opera only
[08:35] <thephoenix04> dotblank - there is a libcurses-ocaml-dev. is that it? and what does "dev" mean?
[08:35] <Zedde> dotblank: I'm running ubuntu 8.10 x64 and did a apr-get update before
[08:35] <dotblank> thephoenix04: -dev means it has the files needed to configure or compile programs
[08:35] <Zedde> apt
[08:35] <dotblank> Zedde: have you searched via synaptic?
[08:35] <thephoenix04> so is the one listed above the one i need?
[08:36] <thephoenix04> "libcurses-ocaml-dev"
[08:36] <dotblank> thephoenix04: I would look for libncurses-dev
[08:36] <thephoenix04> i found that one
[08:36] <thephoenix04> but not the "libcurses"
[08:36] <thephoenix04> are they different?
[08:37] <Gobby> How do i make an icon not have a name?
[08:37] <thephoenix04> dotblank: hey it worked! thanks
[08:37] <dotblank> well similar and different. I would install the libncurses and try ./configure again
[08:37] <thephoenix04> : )
[08:37] <Gobby> So its just plain?
[08:37] <dotblank> np
[08:37] <Zedde> dotblank: synaptic? .. I tried to search using the GUI too but about the same results , not as many but still non off them have the word opera in it
[08:38] <Gobby> How do i make an icon that is on my desktop not have a name?? So it just shows the icon?
[08:39] <dotblank> Zedde: There seems to be no opera package in ubuntu repos
[08:39] <Zedde> opera has a ubuntu 8.10 32/64 version on theres homepage
[08:39] <dotblank> Zedde: try this
[08:39] <dotblank> http://www.opera.com/download/
[08:39] <Zedde> dotblank: okay , then I should get no results ;(
[08:40] <dotblank> Zedde: did you already install it?
[08:40] <Zedde> no
[08:40] <dotblank> Zedde: that package won't appear in synaptic untill you install it
[08:40] <Zedde> dotblank: is there another way to search with apt ? like opera* or "opera" ?
[08:41] <dotblank> Zedde: There is no package for opera in the official repos
[08:41] <dotblank> !opera
[08:41] <dotblank> ^^
[08:41] <dotblank> there
[08:41] <Zedde> I have done that
[08:41] <dotblank> Is it installed?
[08:42] <Zedde> no
[08:42] <Zedde> Well I can't finde it that way
[08:42] <dotblank> have you tried running the .deb file from opera's web-site
[08:42] <dotblank> Zedde: you should be able to just double click it and install
[08:43] <Zedde> dotblank: I'm going to do that :) kjust making my point that I can't trust the apt if I'm searching for a pkg :(
[08:44] <dotblank> Zedde: The package will appear once you install it, there are legal reasons why it is not in the official repo
[08:44] <Zedde> dotblank: okay,
[08:44] <Zedde> dotblank: a new question that, can't I narrow down a serch with apt ?
[08:44] <Zedde> that = then
[08:44] <stevr1it> i need support to have my xerox printer working ,  now when i am printing a picture of pdf or doc file a bit bigger than some kb it the syslog show an error Apr 19 09:38:45 stevr1it kernel: [116500.672623] type=1502 audit(1240126725.776:82): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" fsuid=7 name="/dev/tty" pid=24177 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"  what can I do? I already rinstaleld the drivers fotomatic and original but unsuccesf
[08:44] <stevr1it> ully. I am using intrepid NS WITH UBUNTU 8.04 IT WAS WORKING MARVELLOUSLY. THANK YOU
[08:45] <dotblank> Zedde: Currently this feature is being requested in ubuntu brainstorm.
[08:45] <Zedde> dotblank: okay cool
[08:46] <Zedde> dotblank: thanks for that help
[08:46] <dotblank> stevr1it: What model is it?
[08:47] <stevr1it> dotblank, xerox phaser 6180
[08:48] <dotblank> stevr1it: have you tried the ppd file from http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Xerox-Phaser_6180?
[08:49] <stevr1it> let me see
[08:50] <stevr1it> dotblank, y4es i did and it does not work with that dirver
[08:50] <stevr1it> driver
[08:50] <dotblank> Is ubuntu updated completely?
[08:50] <stevr1it> yes
[08:50] <dotblank> Does it work in windows?
[08:50] <stevr1it> installed perfectly
[08:51] <stevr1it> yes
[08:51] <stevr1it> with windows no problem at all
[08:51] <dotblank> is it connected via serial?
[08:51] <stevr1it> with 8.04 ubuntu was perfect
[08:51] <stevr1it> via cable +
[08:51] <stevr1it> ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:52] <stevr1it> the door 9100 is open for the printer
[08:52] <stevr1it> it is an internal network
[08:52] <dotblank> hmm, have you tried forcing an earlier version of the foomatic drivers?
[08:52] <stevr1it> whenre to find it? I have tried only the one in the list
[08:53] <stevr1it> but the problem exists only when i try to print pictures of files a bit bigger than normal
[08:53] <dotblank> stevr1it: in synaptic it should be under Package -> force version
[08:53] <vlad> hi,how do I istall scipe on a machine with a 64-bit processo
[08:53] <stevr1it> i check
[08:54] <dotblank> !skype
[08:54] <ian--> i'm trying to install the 9.04 rc off cd and getting an input/output error. is there an easy way for me to install the system now that i'm booted to cd without getting packages from the cd
[08:55] <harvest> I have another hard drive I want to install for file storage - I would like to share it in my Ubuntu box across my local network - There are (4) linux boxes and (2) windows - would it best to format it to NTFS ? ?
[08:55] <stevr1it> dotblank: thre is no force version in synaptic
[08:55] <dotblank> ian--: you could try a netboot
[08:55] <dotblank> netinstall*
[08:56] <harvest> Is NTFS partition the best to use in a combo linux/windows network ? ?
[08:56] <jetscreamer> harvest: it's best to use windows on, yes
[08:56] <roadmap> harvest:  do you need a file system with permission sets?
[08:56] <roadmap> If not why not go with Fat32?
[08:57] <jetscreamer> fat32 and >2gb files is why
[08:57] <roadmap> Its 4GB I believe, but you're right
[08:57] <jetscreamer> no perms is another
[08:57] <dotblank> stevr1it: try http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/foomatic-db-engine
[08:57] <roadmap> Since its going to be shared remotely anyways, samba should handle it so NTFS would work just fine
[08:57] <harvest> roadmap, Basically I will be sharing on my Jaunty box - but would like to access files from (my wife still uses windows) box.
[08:58] <timfrost> stevr1it: it is there.   Select the package, then use 'Package->Force Version'.  It is greyed out unless there is more than one version of the selected package available.
[08:58] <roadmap> harvest:  NTFS would work just fine.
[08:58] <dotblank> timfrost: its probally grayed out
[08:58] <PROject-Emerald> Does anyone here know about installing videocard drivers, specifically ati radeon 9250, without messing up your stuff like ENvyNG?
[08:58] <toan> what is install packet watch film and listen music online on ubuntu?
[08:59] <vlad> thank you
[08:59] <harvest> roadmap, What be the advantages or disadvantages to using FAT32 ?
[08:59] <bazhang> toan, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:59] <harvest> *would
[08:59] <toan> can you detail?
[08:59] <roadmap> harvest:  Fat32 doesnt have large file support, so if you need something >2GB (I think its >4GB but may be mistaken) its not going to work for you
[08:59] <soypanlin> hello ,everyone
[08:59] <dotblank> Hello
[08:59] <bazhang> toan, open a terminal, type :  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:00] <roadmap> harvest:  The only "advantage" you really have is no permissions. With NTFS you have ownership permissions on files so you have to ensure everyone has the proper permissions to access the shared file/folder and make the necessary modifications.
[09:00] <harvest> roadmap,  Yea that's what I figured - the drive is a 500GB SATA
[09:00] <toan> yes
[09:00] <toan> thank you
[09:00] <soypanlin> my sata is 600GB
[09:00] <roadmap> if we must, my desktop has a 500GB RAID0+1 array setup
[09:00] <roadmap> :(
[09:00] <dotblank> samba will work with almost any file system..
[09:01] <rohan> i have a 320gb external hard disk. when i use it ubuntu, on safe removal, it does not actually power off like in windows. hence, on removal, there is a slight screeching noise from the hdd. how do i force the hdd to power down before removal? or at least stop spinning?
[09:01] <harvest> roadmap,  I don't think the permission's thing will be a very big obstacle - I'm fairly comfortable with networking....
[09:01] <dotblank> rohan: hdparm
[09:01] <roadmap> harvest:  There are about 5000+ tutorials online dealing with NTFS/file sharing permissions through windows.
[09:01] <harvest> jetscreamer, Thanks for input
[09:01] <roadmap> harvest:  It shouldn't be too bad at all.
[09:01] <rohan> dotblank: it's detected as a SCSI device, thanks to libata.. so sdparm i guess?
[09:02] <ian--> fat32 is awful
[09:02] <dotblank> rohan: should still work
[09:02] <unomi> in a pinch, its easier to get to the data of a fat32 disk than an ntfs one
[09:02] <stevr1it> timfrost: sorry it is there .. where?
[09:02] <rohan> ian--: why is fat32 awful?
[09:02] <roadmap> unomi:  I don't know about that. I think data recovery/forensic tools have come a long way.
[09:03] <harvest> roadmap, Yea - Tell me - I could not believe how easy and straight forward the networking is in Ubuntu - piece of cake.....
[09:03] <rohan> ian--: if you never need files > 4gb, it's pretty good, and universal (which is it's main advantage)
[09:03] <roadmap> unomi:  I recently had to recover data off a Windows XP/NTFS setup. I managed to get 90% of the data the person wanted. Only a few things were inaccessible.
[09:03] <unomi> what did you use?
[09:03] <dotblank> Jut install ext4, who cares if windows can't read it (actually it can) if samba's running
[09:03] <stevr1it> timfrost: it is totally reyed
[09:04] <roadmap> unomi:  gparted bootable CD. It comes with some hdd forensic tools :).
[09:04] <harvest> roadmap,  Not sure if Big Blue will ever get it right - in all these years they still can't get it right - know what I mean?
[09:04] <stevr1it> greyed
[09:04] <unomi> sounds alright then
[09:04] <harvest> roadmap, Thanks for input
[09:04] <roadmap> unomi:  the machine had pretty much lost its partition table definitions, so all the computer was seeing was junk data. For the most part all the data was in tact.
[09:05] <roadmap> harvest:  No problem :).
[09:05] <dotblank> stevr1it: Im sorry, Im out of ideas perhaps try using 8.04 or use 9.04
[09:05] <betatesting> Anyone that has a similar problem installing ENVY fixed this issue with comwiz not working
[09:05] <toan> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)?
[09:05] <harvest> roadmap, I suppose I could use gparted to set this drive to NTFS - correct?
[09:05] <timfrost> stevr1it: if the option is greyed out, then there is only one version of that package in the repositories.  That means that you can't go back to an older version.
[09:05] <stevr1it> dotblank: i have tried that foomatic-db-engine but when i try to install with gdebi it says that this is too old and it cannot install it
[09:06] <roadmap> harvest:  You very well could.
[09:06] <n4h0j> When I move my mouse my speakers sounds a distorting sound. The sound is louder if I move the mouse over any "active" element, like a link or something. This problem did not exist in XP. Any ideas?
[09:06] <dotblank> stevr1it: try uninstalling the current one
[09:06] <roadmap> harvest:  wait a second, I don't think sol
[09:06] <re-rexer> Hi! Is anyone installint ubuntu server 8.04.2 into RAID1 (sorry 4 my eng)
[09:06] <roadmap> harvest:  NTFS is Microsofts magical proprietary partition. You may want to go about setting it to NTFS through windows.
[09:06] <stevr1it> dotbalnk: ok tell me how
[09:06] <roadmap> harvest:  Although GParted may be able to do it. I forget off hand.
[09:07] <Silvr_> Can someone answer answer a question for me please? What is the best way to enable boot logging?
[09:07] <Silvr_> or crashes??
[09:07] <harvest> roadmap, ok - you're probably right to stay proprietary with this.
[09:07] <dotblank> just remove the the package from synaptic and install the old one, this is as much advice I can offer, you could ask latter when there are more ppl here
[09:07] <toan> help me!when i am install emacs then E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:08] <roadmap> harvest:  well, I remember partition magic could do it, so I imagine Gparted should. I have no idea though, I generally use gparted for splitting up existing partitions.
[09:08] <stevr1it> dotblank: in synaptinc there aret o many foomatic driver, should i uninstall only the db-engine?
[09:08] <harvest> roadmap, It's easy enough to do through Manage My Computer
[09:08] <thephoenix04> how do i get to this file?     /usr/local/etc/
[09:08] <JECHO> Gparte dwill do it
[09:08] <Silvr_> I am trying to upgrade my kernel and it crashes on reboot. I would like to see why it is crashing.
[09:08] <dotblank> stevr1it: I guess but if it suggests removing alot of other packages, don't
[09:08] <roadmap> :(.
[09:08] <roadmap> The fastest Ive ever installed Ubuntu was <10 minutes.
[09:08] <roadmap> Off of a USB device.
[09:08] <roadmap> God I love that.
[09:09] <stevr1it> too late
[09:09] <dotblank> Silvr_: in grub remove the line splash and quiet
[09:09] <JECHO> Ubuntu 9.04 installe din less than 3 minutes
[09:09] <JECHO> off aof usb
[09:09] <stevr1it> let's see
[09:09] <jutsu> JECHO: Congratulations.
[09:09] <thephoenix04> how do i get to this file in ubuntu?     /usr/local/etc/
[09:09] <roadmap> JECHO:  I forget the math but i think USB 2.0 trasnfer is 6-10x faster than CD read transfer.
[09:10] <JECHO> yeah its about that
[09:10] <roadmap> Also USB should be constant speed while CD read speed varies.
[09:10] <JECHO> its incredibly fast.
[09:10] <roadmap> I need to convert my ext3 partitions to ext4.
[09:10] <dotblank> roadmap: I got 20 machines installed with ubuntu in under 20 mins with no cds or usb sticks
[09:10] <roadmap> dotblank:  net install?
[09:10] <thephoenix04> does anyone know how to get to this file?     /usr/local/etc/
[09:10] <Silvr_> dotblank: then just look for whatever is supposed to load next?
[09:10] <dotblank> roadmap: yup
[09:10] <timfrost> thephoenix04: what are you trying to do with  /usr/local/etc/?
[09:11] <JECHO> thepheonix that is a directory
[09:11] <SockPants> is there a way to see what process is using a sound device is ALSA?
[09:11] <SockPants> i get this error
[09:11] <SockPants> [2009-04-19  15:58:20] EROR input-alsa/alsa_open_module Failed to open audio device hw:0,0: Device or resource busy
[09:11] <dotblank> Silvr_: it should be more verbose and allow you to see everything
[09:11] <SockPants> but i don't think i'm using anything to do with sound
[09:11] <roadmap> dotblank:  I plan on installing backtrack 4.0 to my laptop soon in a 10GB partition :(.
[09:11] <harvest> roadmap, Oh by the way can I resize my swap partition - This is a new clean install of Jaunty. I just used the default "no brainer" install method - System Monitor reports it set my swap to 2.9GB's - Way over kill....
[09:11] <thephoenix04> JECHO: oh. do you know how to open it? or where i can find it? im pretty new to ubuntu
[09:11] <dotblank> roadmap: I run back track in VM
[09:11] <roadmap> harvest:  If you're going to be editing partitions on that system I would recommend downloading the GParted bootable CD and resizing it from the Live CD (as opposed through on the active machine)
[09:12] <Silvr_> yes, it shows me everything, but the it gets to the splash screen and the VM I am running it in crashes.
[09:12] <roadmap> harvest:  and yes you can resize it.
[09:12] <jutsu> harvest: Look through fdisk/cfdisk/gparted.
[09:12] <dotblank> Silvr_: did you get rid of the splash option?
[09:12] <JECHO> thepheonix open a terminal and type "sudo nautilus /usr/local/etc   .... that will open the  directory
[09:12] <JECHO> ...graphically
[09:12] <Silvr_> yes
[09:12] <thephoenix04> timfrost: im suppose to configure a program for my system
[09:13] <jutsu> Probably on a partiton which doesn't mount any of your ubuntu-partitions.
[09:13] <thephoenix04> so i need to find that location
[09:13] <harvest> roadmap, Cool - I think I have a CD somewhere I downloaded before - So it's safe to change the size of my Swap partition?
[09:13] <roadmap> dotblank:  they switched to debian and im saddened by it :(.
[09:13] <roadmap> harvest:  it should be fine.
[09:13] <harvest> jutsu, Thanks
[09:13] <dotblank> Silvr_: try loading an older kernel and look in /var/log
[09:13] <Silvr_> nothing there
[09:14] <harvest>  roadmap Thanks for your advice
[09:14] <dotblank> :(
[09:14] <Silvr_> it is a bug that has been in launchpad for a while
[09:14] <roadmap> harvest:  :( you made it easy.
[09:14] <Silvr_> is there another way to log it?
[09:14] <stevr1it> the same mistake: Apr 19 10:13:06 stevr1it kernel: [118560.999591] type=1502 audit(1240128786.100:88): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" fsuid=7 name="/dev/tty" pid=25358 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"
[09:14] <dotblank> Silvr_: sorry looks like I can't help
[09:14] <stevr1it> it si not the pritner driver is something connected with the permissions
[09:14] <dotblank> stevr1it: ugh, have you tried 9.04?
[09:15] <Silvr_> the last output in verbose is "waiting for root filesystem"
[09:15] <stevr1it> no , is it already available?
[09:15] <JECHO> pheonix: have you found it?
[09:15] <dotblank> stevr1it: hmm check the groups your user is a member of
[09:15] <rocko> can someone tell me what this iptable rules will do to my firewall ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/153907/
[09:15] <harvest> roadmap, Oh forgot to ask what you think would be a good size to set to ? - Currently running 3GB's on this puppy.
[09:15] <stevr1it> dotblank: what do you mean? I don't understand
[09:15] <timfrost>  thephoenix04: the graphical way is what JECHO suggested.  In a terminal use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell, then 'cd /usr/local/etc' in that shell.
[09:16] <thephoenix04> is nautilus a program i need to install or does it already come with ubuntu?
[09:16] <lstarnes> thephoenix04: it is installed by default
[09:16] <roadmap> harvest:  i generally set it to double the size of the amount of RAM i have
[09:16] <JECHO> its the file manager with ubuntu
[09:16] <dotblank> stevr1it: in ubuntu alot of access controls are handled by groups so by modifying what groups you are a member can change your permissions
[09:16] <harvest> roadmap, So your saying it should be 6GB's ?
[09:16] <roadmap> harvest:  in modern systems where you have 2-4GB of ram, that may seem costly :)
[09:17] <dotblank> thephoenix04: it is already installed
[09:17] <roadmap> harvest:  with 3GB I' say ~5GB but Im sure someone here would tell you that may be overkill.
[09:17] <igorsh> rocko: first it set policy in drop. then it allow ping and sessions that you initiate
[09:18] <igorsh> rocko: and it allow localhost connections
[09:18] <roadmap> harvest:  Google seems to agree with me though - http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=Swap+Size+Recommendation&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
[09:18] <dotblank> Well I has to get sleep now. ttyl
[09:18] <lstarnes> rocko: that will essentially block all incoming connections except from your own computer's loopback connection
[09:18] <lstarnes> rocko: generally, you don't need to block everything
[09:18] <roadmap> harvest:  From google it says 1.5 to 2x, so with 3GB about 5GB is right.
[09:18] <harvest> roadmap, Well I thought 2,9GB's was too much - thats what it set on my install - Will try it for awhile and do a Wait N See how it goes for now.
[09:19] <stevr1it> dotblank: clear but i am into the user and group, my nick is stevr1it and i don't know what should i change
[09:19] <toan> error when install stardict.
[09:19] <toan> configure: error: Enchant library not found or too old. Use --disable-spell to build without spell plugin.
[09:19] <stevr1it> dotblank and moreover, why i can print small documents, and not big with my printer? it has 1.5gb ram installed
[09:20] <Omen> is there a reason why fullscreen video tends to have frame rate issues on Ubuntu for me?
[09:20] <roadmap> Omen:  full screen flash has frame rate issues for me :(. I've learned to accept it.
[09:20] <harvest> roadmap, I really need to just do some reading on it and see exactly how the swap actually works and decide from there etc. etc.
[09:20] <JECHO> i have no fullscreen framerate issues
[09:21] <roadmap> harvest:  Thats a fair suggestion. I think you'll end up realizing 5GB may be a good idea and go from there.
[09:21] <JECHO> i installed all codecs through medibuntu
[09:21] <Omen> i wish i could get past it since i watch a lot of online video, hulu and sucj
[09:21] <Omen> such
[09:21] <rocko> lstarnes, i see, i want to secure my server which is running as a phone server. I changed the default ssh 22 port to 1200 and restarted the sshd service then tried running ssh -p 1200 localhost which comes back with ssh: connect to host localhost port 12000: Connection refused
[09:21] <Omen> ill look that up
[09:21] <harvest> roadmap, Great - later on thx
[09:22] <jbee> hey...I have a problem with my ext3 filesystem,i have done many fscks and always seems to correct the problem but everytime same problems occur!Anyway,i want to ask if i can have a partition with no filesystem at all...Seems stupid but a friend told me it can happen and i think it'd be just perfect for backup!So can it happen or not?
[09:22] <stevr1it> dotbalnk: my login profile user is connected with the same name group
[09:22] <JECHO> jbee a partition wont hold data unless it is formatted
[09:23] <stevr1it> dotblank:  my login profile user is connected with the same name group
[09:23] <tsimpson> jbee: without a filesystem, you can not access files
[09:23] <Omen> JECHO: non-free-codecs?
[09:23] <jbee> ok JECHO so what filesystem you suggest using for backup?i have some bad experiences with ext3 and reifers
[09:24] <lorenzo> ciao a tutti qualcuno usa elisa media center?
[09:24] <armornick> jbee: try ex2
[09:24] <armornick> *ext2
[09:24] <JECHO> Omen: yes non-free-codecs check my blog if you nee da tutorial... jechonet.blogspot.com
[09:24] <tsimpson> recurring errors may indicate HDD failure
[09:24] <roadmap> Omen:  Ive used the nonfree with full screen issues (namely flash)
[09:24] <JECHO> jbee: i would suggest ext2. etx4 or even ntfs
[09:24] <roadmap> VLC plays video just fine (regular video) :(
[09:24] <armornick> jbee: maybe there's a problem with the jounaling
[09:24] <roadmap> Flash seems fail
[09:24] <roadmap> I wonder if disabling compiz would do anything.
[09:24] <jbee> thanks people
[09:24] <jbee> :)
[09:25] <JECHO> jbee: :)
[09:25] <jbee> oh and one last to see if i can save the files i have now
[09:25] <jbee> simple fsck.ext3 with answering all yes doesn't correct anything
[09:25] <Omen> hmm well i get some issues with other codecs as well. but that usually seems to be a player problem, vlc>banshee and totem for me. but flash seems same between epiphany and firefox.
[09:26] <PROject-Emerald> I need help really quickly,
[09:26] <jbee> tried -c but it just take too much time,whole days...
[09:26] <JECHO> Omen: have you tried MPlayer?
[09:26] <PROject-Emerald> is XFree a linux distro?
[09:26] <jbee> something else i could try?
[09:26] <roadmap> JECHO:  I think his problem is with full screen flash :(
[09:26] <armornick> PROject-Emerald: XFree is the windowing system
[09:26] <roadmap> I know mine is.
[09:26] <PROject-Emerald> Okay, and how do I find out which version I'm on?
[09:26] <whoreface> what cli command can i use to determine my wireless chipset?
[09:26] <JECHO> roadmap: yeah i never have had a full screen flash prob
[09:26] <igorsh> PROject-Emerald: xfree is an x server
[09:27] <thephoenix04> what is the source type for ubuntu
[09:27] <igorsh> PROject-Emerald: now xfree replaced by xorg
[09:27] <roadmap> JECHO:  flash plays a little sluggish non full screen but its tolerable, going full screen is like watching paint dry
[09:27] <armornick> PROject-Emerald: use a terminal and type Xorg -version
[09:27] <PROject-Emerald> Ah, how do I find out which xorg version I'm on?
[09:27] <PROject-Emerald> Okay
[09:27] <JECHO> roadmap: yeah i havent ever had that problem. did you install flash from medibuntu or directly?
[09:28] <roadmap> JECHO:  the audio continues just fine, the video skips massive amounts of frames and plays frame by frame (slowly) when it is moving. It has to skip to sync up with the audio
[09:28] <roadmap> JECHO:  I just installed Adobe Flash 10 a minute ago to see if that would help. I installed it directly.
[09:28] <PROject-Emerald> How do I update Xorg? On the ATI website it says the minimum version they support is 6.8 but I'm on 1.5.2 I guess
[09:28] <rocko> what is the difference between ssh_config and sshd_config ?
[09:28] <vigo> !xorg
[09:28] <Dima_Sharihin> PROject-Emerald, xorg version 6.8? o_O
[09:28] <JECHO> roadmap: i havent installe ddirectly... maybe thats a bug or something. I alwas use medibuntu and havent had any issues
[09:29] <Omen> umm some, but i havent tested it for the issue
[09:29] <jbee> to see if i can save the files i have now.simple fsck.ext3 with answering all yes doesn't correct anything, tried -c but it just take too much time,whole days...Anything else i could try?
[09:29] <marko_> i have just installed Oblivion on Ubuntu under Wine. When i start it it asks me what graphics card im using and i can only see Direct3D HAL on it. how can i make it locate my actual gfx card?
[09:29] <PROject-Emerald> The only thing the ATI site has for Xorg is "X.Org 6.8 Drivers"
[09:29] <roadmap> JECHO:  I just assumed it was the age of the laptop it was installed on, although on windows flash works flawlessly (same machine)
[09:29] <JECHO> jbee: what are you tryign to do?
[09:29] <armornick> PROject-Emerald: that's impossible, the latest version of Xorg is 1.6.0
[09:29] <igorsh> PROject-Emerald: why not to install drivers from repo?
[09:29] <Dima_Sharihin> PROject-Emerald, i think, that _driver_ has version 6.8)
[09:30] <timfrost> rocko: sshd_config is for the server on your machine (sshd), while ssh_config is read by the client (when you do 'ssh ....')
[09:30] <JECHO> roadmap: hmm... interesting. if you try medibuntu and still have problems it must be a hardware issue or something even though it works well in windows
[09:30] <PROject-Emerald> Bcause every time I do it messe sup my display or xorg.conf or something and I have to go in and reset everything. I'm relatively new to Linux but I managed to get CSS working, but I need my videocard to work properly.
[09:30] <Omen> how do u use medibuntu? add repositories and then look for codecs in synaptic?
[09:30] <jbee> just correcting the filesystem...it lags even when playing music and it always stop me for doing manually fsck at boot!
[09:30] <roadmap> JECHO:  It doesnt actually bother me. At least not anymore. I plan on getting a netbook very soon. I've used this laptop primary for pentesting (backtrack)
[09:30] <JECHO> Omen: go to jechonet.blogspot.com and i have a tutorial on there titled " 7 things to do on a frsh ubuntu install"
[09:31] <Omen> ok
[09:31] <jbee> also i cannot unrar files,it lags and force me to reset the power
[09:31] <Omen> ok there it is on step 3
[09:31] <PROject-Emerald> So if someone wants to show me how to "repo" drivers that'd be awesoe
[09:31] <PROject-Emerald> awesome**
[09:31] <JECHO> roadmap: i have an eee pc and love it!
[09:31] <whoreface> what cli command can i use to determine my wireless chipset?
[09:31] <igorsh> PROject-Emerald: there is xorg 7.4 in ubuntu 8.10
[09:31] <marko_> i have just installed Oblivion on Ubuntu under Wine. When i start it it asks me what graphics card im using and i can only see Direct3D HAL on it. how can i make it locate my actual gfx card?
[09:31] <roadmap> JECHO:  what size?
[09:32] <igorsh> 1.5.2 is version of xserver
[09:32] <PROject-Emerald> No idea. I just typed xorg -version and it gave me 1.6.0
[09:32] <igorsh> it is not the same
[09:32] <JECHO> roadmap: the 10" 1000ha and i had the 900
[09:32] <roadmap> JECHO:  I originally was aiming to get the 901 and a friend of mind suggested to get the 10" model because the 9" model keyboard is a little strange
[09:32] <roadmap> JECHO:  doesn't the 10" models have a ram deck or whatever its called (for ease of access) to install additional ram?
[09:32] <armornick> PROject-Emerald: didn't you ever had a popup telling you restricted drivers were disabled?
[09:32] <JECHO> roadmap: i would suggest the same thing... and also... ubuntu 9.04 runs excellent on it right out of the box
[09:32] <JECHO> roadmap: yes
[09:32] <jbee> no ideas people?
[09:33] <roadmap> JECHO:  the easypeasy edition or standard 9.04?
[09:33] <PROject-Emerald> No, but everything is ridiculously choppy because my videocard drivers aren't installed
[09:33] <vigo> jbee: gzip?
[09:33] <Holek_> hey, is there a way to convert ext3 partition to ext4 without data loss?
[09:33] <Omen> oh i want a little netbook pretty bad
[09:33] <JECHO> roadmap: i have used easy peasy and hate dit. its a watered down version of ubuntu. im using standard runs liek a dream
[09:33] <JECHO> Oman: haha yeah theyre fun
[09:33] <whoreface> yeah
[09:33] <roadmap> JECHO:  I hear they use mini pci-e wireless cards. Can you possibly tell me the wireless hardware contained in your EEEPC?
[09:33] <armornick> Omen: whatever you do, don't buy a dell mini
[09:34] <roadmap> JECHO:  I'm looking to replace my current pentest machine with a smaller, lighter netbook. :(.
[09:34] <whoreface> i've spent the last 2 days building a pe and backing mine up over a network share so i could switch between ubuntu and winxp
[09:34] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, aethros wifi - madwifi driver)))
[09:34] <JECHO> roadmap: i dont have it with me right now and i dont know off the top of my head. asus' website might have the specs
[09:34] <harvest> roadmap, Hey installed < gparted > - when I use the bootable gparted - Will I be changing the /dev/sda2 or /dev/sda5 - http://imagebin.org/46057 ? ?
[09:34] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  You know for a fact?
[09:34] <whoreface> i have an inspiron mini, but i got it free
[09:34] <armornick> PROject-Emerald: well, there should be an entry under system > administration called hardware drivers or something like that
[09:35] <armornick> whoreface: what model? and do the video drivers work?
[09:35] <roadmap> harvest:  Your swap file is the smaller one (its even labeled below as /dev/sda5 linux-swap)
[09:35] <PROject-Emerald> It says no proprietary drivers are on the system
[09:35] <JECHO> roadmap: haha you wont be dissapointed :)
[09:35] <vigo> jbee: there are a couple of Unrar , Zip utilities in the repositories.
[09:35] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, no, i talked with owner of eeepc900)
[09:35] <jbee> vigo: the problem is not only unraring files...It also lags even if playing music!The filesystem is corrupted but fsck doesn't correct it
[09:35] <rocko> timfrost, Thanks for the tip ! that is what was wrong ! :)
[09:35] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  I heard that the wireless chipsets vary from model to model.
[09:35] <armornick> PROject-Emerald: it doesn't ask you to enable them?
[09:35] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  Thats why I was curious.
[09:35] <PROject-Emerald> Nothing is in the boxed
[09:35] <PROject-Emerald> boxes*
[09:35] <armornick> strange
[09:35] <Zedde> Hello I lik eto convert som files from unix to dos on my ubuntu server , i'm going to send some files to a friend, I tried todos and unix2dos,  but non of them is installed and apt-get install can't finde them
[09:35] <vigo> jbee: Have you cleaned it lately?
[09:35] <jbee> well no simple fsck,i cannot use -c as i said as it takes too much time...
[09:36] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  The fact they use mini pci-e wireless cards means i can just buy a cheap replacement if i have to.
[09:36] <armornick> Zedde: what kind of files are these?
[09:36] <roadmap> JECHO:  Does yours have the SSD or the standard HDD?
[09:36] <harvest> roadmap, Ok - You can see why I want to install a 500GB for storage - my main drive is a 78GB Raptor 10,000 rpm - it hauls boot......
[09:36] <JECHO> roadmap: 160GB HDD :D
[09:36] <jbee> when you say clean it vigo?what exactly do you mean?
[09:36] <roadmap> harvest:  If you have the other drive attached (the 500GB Storage Drive) then click on the down arrow in the top right corner by /dev/sda (69.24 GB)
[09:36] <Omen> oh sweet i didnt know you could add keys from terminal
[09:36] <JECHO> roadmap: my 900 had a SSD
[09:36] <marko_> how do i make Wine know what my graphics card is?
[09:36] <Zedde> armornick: text files , openvpn config files I'm going to send out
[09:36] <PrebenR> Every time I start my computer the master volume is muted. How can I change this or is it a jaunty bug?
[09:36] <roadmap> harvest:  It should show you a list of other drives (like /dev/sdb)
[09:37] <vigo> jbee: There is a command that removes/purges old unused or broken packages.
[09:37] <jbee> xmmm
[09:37] <armornick> Zedde: they should be compatible if you saved them as ANSI files
[09:37] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, If you'll buy new EEE, you will have aethros).there are many subversion of madwifi driver, so you'll have to check)
[09:37] <roadmap> JECHO:  I wanted to wait until SSD sizes got bigger but the current SSDs are priced out of stupidity. Larger SSD sizes would make the EEEPC price jump significantly.
[09:37] <JECHO> roadmap: i agree
[09:37] <Zedde> armornick: they aren't at the moment , I have used the files that came with the pkg
[09:37] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  as long as madwifi-ng works on it I'd be happy :(.
[09:38] <jbee> tried some commands that found by googleing but nothing helped!You have something specific in mind though?
[09:38] <vigo> jbee: Mainloy it just purges broken packages that can swamp a system, let me see if I can locate the data on it, it may be what the error is.
[09:38] <harvest> roadmap, Ah - I need to install that yet - still tweaking this new install of Jaunty - but remember what your saying from using bootable gparted before - it's all coming back now  :o)
[09:38] <JECHO> roadmap: mine is brandnew and all of the hardware worke dout of the box with ubuntu. no configuring needed.
[09:39] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, I have broadcom wifi using ndiswrapper :(
[09:39] <harvest> JECHO, Nice when everthing "Just Works!" huh?
[09:39] <roadmap> harvest:  Ive had strange results using gparted from the same drive that i'm trying to partition. I'd recommend using the bootable CD so that your HDD/Swap partitions arent mounted when you go about resizing it.  I understand your pain.
[09:39] <Morclye> I'm going to try installing ATI Catalyst driver. How do I remove current driver which is the one click installed restricted driver from fresh install?
[09:39] <roadmap> JECHO:  I'd plan on using Backtrack with it :). Not necessarily Ubuntu.
[09:39] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, because native b43-driver doesn't works anyway)
[09:39] <roadmap> JECHO:  How much was your 1000HA?
[09:40] <ziroday> Morclye: that is the ati catalyst driver
[09:40] <jbee> vigo: which command is doing it?
[09:40] <JECHO> roadmap: $330 from amazon
[09:40] <marko_> can someone PLEASE help me? how do i make games under Wine find my actual graphics card?
[09:40] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  none of the drivers seem to work. fwcutter, bcm43xx or whatever, they are all evil.
[09:40] <harvest> roadmap, Yea - Was just looking at my drive locally - but will use the Gparted Boot .iso CD when I actually make changes....
[09:40] <roadmap> JECHO:  I think they are a little cheaper now :(.
[09:40] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, yeah)))
[09:40] <roadmap> I know the 901 model was on sale recently for around $240
[09:40] <Morclye> ziroday: Oh, I think I still need to remove it in order to try out the new one, right?
[09:40] <ziroday> marko_: I presume its a setting under winecfg, ask in #winehq for more help
[09:40] <JECHO> roadmap yeah the 900 models are cheap
[09:41] <ziroday> Morclye: how are you trying out the new one?
[09:41] <harvest> JECHO, Great analogue !
[09:41] <Flynsarmy> Ever since the kernel + nvidia graphics driver update a week or so ago (intrepid) about once a day my screen freezes and kind of 'shivers'. Is this a known issue?
[09:41] <roadmap> JECHO:  I imagine yours came with Windows and you had to format it right? There are linux EEEPCs but finding them sold online or in retail outlets seem damned near impossible.
[09:41] <JECHO> harvest: haha thanks :-p
[09:41] <Dima_Sharihin> JECHO, where are 900 models cheap?
[09:41] <vigo> jbee: still looking, I just ran it an hour ago, it seemed to help alot, but I am careful on command stuff, still looking for the Debian site.
[09:41] <roadmap> JECHO:  Im hoping if I can find a linux one it'd cut the price by about $40.
[09:41] <Morclye> ziroday: Downloading Catalyst 9.4 from ATI driver support page and installing it with the script it comes with
[09:41] <JECHO> roadmap: yeah i had to reinstall
[09:42] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  Newegg, Zip Zoom Fly, Geeks.com, couple of places that listed 901 sales recently.
[09:42] <jbee> oh ok vigo take your time...
[09:42] <JECHO> Dima_Sharihin: Target has 900 models for cheap lol but im sure amazon does too
[09:42] <ziroday> Morclye: sure, but why?
[09:42] <ziroday> Morclye: do the current drivers not work?
[09:42] <roadmap> JECHO:  what color is yours :)
[09:43] <JECHO> roadmap: theyre definitely cheaper with linux on them'
[09:43] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, huh. i'd bought acer extensa 4220 instead eeepc))
[09:43] <JECHO> roadmap: fine ebony :)
[09:43] <vigo> jbee: it is apt-get autoclean, but here , look at this link: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/friday-fun-useful-linux-terminal-commands-for-new-users/
[09:43] <thephoenix04> how do you find the "capture source" for your internet connection?
[09:43] <roadmap> JECHO:  Newegg has a Black 1000HA for $350 with WinXP home :(. Fail.
[09:43] <Zedde> Flynsarmy: I have a laptop with a Nvidia quad card and latest driver slows my system down to the point even text in terminals dosn't update  so i'm running w/o driivers
[09:43] <Morclye> ziroday: No, I've had a lot of problems with these ones, none of 3D programs work correctly and even 2D is miserable. When I drag program windows around they move in steps leaving ghost frames behind dragging path
[09:43] <roadmap> Dima_Sharihin:  Whys that?
[09:43] <JECHO> roadmap: haha mine was 330! I won :)
[09:43] <roadmap> 160GB HDD?
[09:44] <Flynsarmy> Zedde, I'm not having performance issues like that however have been having weird terminal issues
[09:44] <JECHO> roadmap: 160GB HDD 1GB RAM Atom n270
[09:44] <Morclye> ziroday: And all this with desktop effects disabled. I have flickering videos too. Enabling effects makes things even worse and I was hoping new drivers would bring happiness to this
[09:44] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, it has multidrive dvdrw) and 14.1" lcd) i wanted to buy notebook)
[09:44] <JECHO> roadmap: it even runs compiz :D
[09:44] <ziroday> Morclye: hmm they shouldn't. The package you want to remove is xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:44] <Zedde> Flynsarmy: maybe not performance problem but it feels like that,
[09:45] <roadmap> JECHO:  for pentesting I dont need compiz. I need a wireless chipset that suports packet injection ;)
[09:45] <harvest> Anyone know if the newer USB Startup Disk Creator - is better in Jaunty?
[09:45] <Omen> the netbook im waiting for is like one of them gigabyte sliders but with the specs of that UMID M1. I want to dual boot Ubuntu MID and Android on it :P
[09:45] <JECHO> roadmap: lol but its nice to have some sweet effects :)
[09:45] <Zedde> Flynsarmy: older derivers 177 just make the fan spin upp and down all the time
[09:46] <roadmap> JECHO:  is yours 802.11b/g or b/g/n ? I've seen some EEE's with 802.11n support on them
[09:46] <Morclye> ziroday: Thank you. Will I have GUI working anymore after removing that package?
[09:46] <harvest> Has anyone running Jaunty used the " USB Startup Disk Creator " ?
[09:46] <JECHO> roadmap: yeah i believe the 101 models support n but mines just b/g
[09:46] <vigo> !jaunty
[09:46] <ziroday> Morclye: yes, until you restart your xserver. So make sure you install the new drivers first
[09:46] <roadmap> JECHO:  :) just curious.
[09:47] <roadmap> I've been meaning to get my hands on one of these and figure out if its going to do everything I need.
[09:47] <vigo> What is it, three days?
[09:47] <JECHO> roadmap: mines not for sale :) haha
[09:47] <roadmap> If I buy one its going to be in about two weeks.
[09:47] <jbee> vigo: it deleted some files but don't think it corrected the problem...
[09:47] <vigo> jbee: WEll we made some headway, that is a start.
[09:48] <roadmap> JECHO:  would you happen to know the difference between the HE and the HA?
[09:48] <Morclye> ziroday: This kind of community support is what keeps me wanting to get used to Ubuntu, thank you again :)
[09:48] <Noqq> Can someone help me with installing Ubuntu with Wubi? (Need someone with some knowledge about it)
[09:48] <jbee> ill do another fsck later to see if it has any difference! hehe,right!
[09:48] <Omen> JECHO: I'm downloading the codecs right now, ill test Hulu tomorrow with a new episode of SouthLAnd. thanks!
[09:48] <harvest> roadmap, What are talking about with JECHO a notebook?
[09:48] <JECHO> Omen: No problem! Good luck!
[09:48] <roadmap> harvest:  netbooks, the EEEPC specifically
[09:48] <JECHO> harvest yes a netbook
[09:49] <vigo> jbee: Is difficult to correct an error when there are four old errors in the way.
[09:49] <ziroday> Morclye: ha, I'm sorry your graphics driver isn't working. What card is it?
[09:49] <sirMajid> hi I need a strong IDE for c++ in ubuntu? do you know one?
[09:49] <roadmap> vigo:  sounds like something a software developer would say :(
[09:49] <Noqq> Do I need to make a partition on my drive where Windows is installed, when I choose to make a 10gb installment with Wubi on the same drive? (C:\)
[09:49] <Omen> i live in a small town, ive only seen one EeePC. i was so excited i almost grabbed it from him because i wanted to play with it
[09:49] <ziroday> sirMajid: gedit, eclipse, netbeans, geany.
[09:49] <JECHO> roadmap: the HE supports 802.11n
[09:49] <ziroday> Noqq: no, wubi will handle that for you
[09:49] <roadmap> JECHO:  Does the HA have bluetooth? (the HE does, I know that much)
[09:49] <JECHO> Omen: haha nice
[09:49] <Dima_Sharihin> sirMajid, anjunta)
[09:49] <vigo> jbee: Naw, just a sail bum, but yes, now the fs*** may take hold
[09:49] <JECHO> roadmap: no the HA doesnt
[09:49] <Omen> then i saw he had XP on it so i griped at him lol. he nearly got mugged then chewed out instead.
[09:49] <Morclye> ziroday: ATI Radeon HD3850 made by Sapphire
[09:50] <Noqq> zroday: Do I alo receive Dual Boot that way?
[09:50] <sirMajid> ziroday: I checked eclipse, it does not provide any help
[09:50] <harvest> roadmap, Ah the infamous netbooks - they are cool but still a little under powered for my liking - I know they are supposed to be "Netbook" but would like it to do more ....
[09:50] <ziroday> Noqq: yep!
[09:50] <roadmap> JECHO:  Then I may look at the HE :). Solely because I have enough blue tooth devices to fill a minature boat.
[09:50] <ziroday> Morclye: hmm, that card should work
[09:50] <JECHO> roadmap: haha i cant imagine it being much more expensive :)
[09:50] <roadmap> harvest:  Its going to happen just like it happened with my laptop. I bought a laptop and then bam, dual core notebooks popped out on the market. Im going to buy a netbook and then they are going to have like quad core 2ghz netbooks with 2x battery life. I just know it.
[09:51] <vigo> jbee: A Software Dev would most certainly ask, "Where is the backup of the stable system?" :p
[09:51] <roadmap> harvest:  not to mention with cheap SSDs that are in the 200GB storage range.
[09:51] <roadmap> Then I'm going to go cry
[09:51] <jbee> will boot from a live cd in about a minute and make it and also try once again the -c option...I might get lucky and don't stuck at 10% again...
[09:51] <harvest> roadmap, I saw a Lenovo the other day that was pretty sweet, If I were going to get one - This one is pretty tempting.
[09:51] <jbee> lol
[09:51] <Noqq> harvest: The 1000HE from Asus, is very good in lots of ways. Some people consider it to be a laptop, but the size still makes it a Netbook.
[09:51] <JECHO> roadmap: oh i forgot to mention battery life is incredible on the HA. I get a solid 4-5 hours out of a single charge when im fully using it
[09:51] <roadmap> vigo:  A software dev would say "go back to the earlier revisions where the bugs dont exist" :)
[09:52] <yaa_> вщщь
[09:52] <JECHO> roadmap: idling battery life is probly 6 hours
[09:52] <roadmap> vigo:  "What do you mean there are no earlier revisions?"
[09:52] <Noqq> My HE got 9hours. 8Hours with a good amunt of internet browsing.
[09:52] <yaa_> пыщщ
[09:52] <ziroday> !ru | yaa_
[09:52] <harvest> roadmap, yea and life goes on - that's how it is - ha ha - no getting around it - technology is just flying so fast hard to keep up with it..
[09:52] <JECHO> Noqq : yeah its great
[09:52] <yaa_> ugoo
[09:52] <roadmap> I wouldn't know what I'd do with 8 hours of laptop battery life.
[09:53] <roadmap> I may have to pickup having a social life for that to occur.
[09:53] <vigo> roadmap: good one.
[09:53] <tyui> hi t
[09:53] <JECHO> roadmap: lol
[09:53] <harvest> Noqq, You have one of the Asus puppies?
[09:53] <Noqq> I heard that he 1000 series (From Asus Netbooks) do not have the custom bugs, like the 900series had. Is it true?
[09:53] <tyui> hi there
[09:53] <roadmap> vigo:  I just finished checking in v1.0 of an application I'm working on into the svn repository about ten minutes ago :(.
[09:53] <Noqq> harvest, yes I own one for a week now. Everything is still true what I heard on rviews.
[09:53] <JECHO> Noqq: custom bugs?
[09:53] <Noqq> JECHO, like no wifi, no hotkeys,
[09:54] <JECHO> Noqq: oh yeah... i had to comfigure a bit with Ibex but Jaunty supports everything out of the box
[09:54] <Noqq> JECHO, I saw it coming pass by on some internet site, got me abit shocked to read. =P
[09:54] <Dima_Sharihin> roadmap, 8 hours of battery - is a good ups for home)))
[09:54] <jbee> well brb
[09:54] <harvest> Noqq, I like the screen on the Lenovo it goes all the way out to the edge and uses a Hard Drive instead - not as good on batt. life though.
[09:54] <JECHO> Noqq: lol :)
[09:54] <ziroday> !offtopic
[09:54] <roadmap> harvest:  To my understanding, current generation SSDs are actually worse for battery life than HDDs
[09:55] <vigo> roadmap: Got an incremental backup set for every action taken? (I actually use to do that)
[09:55] <trooper0> dude batmans live is like 60 years
[09:55] <ziroday> trooper0: is there something we can help you with?
[09:55] <roadmap> vigo:  I have a backup for everytime the damned thing started successfully. :)
[09:55] <vigo> roadmap: You are wise.
[09:56] <SockPants> does anyone know anything about alsa?
[09:56] <roadmap> vigo:  generally the rule is not to commit broken/non running code to the repository. So everytime we're "done" for the time being, we ensure it starts up and functions. Then commit.
[09:56] <ziroday> !anyone | SockPants
[09:56] <harvest> Noqq, Have to check it out, I have one of the older EEE PC1000 - it's ok - but wished I would have waited - Will sell it and get one of the newer ones eventually.
[09:57] <psy7th> roadmap: the I/O scheduler is not optimized for ssd on ubuntu. changed it to deadline. way faster now on my eeepc 901
[09:57] <SockPants> is it possible that i'm getting no sound from my streaming server which otherwise seems to be working fine because i'm trying to get 2 channels out of a 1-channel sound device and if so how can i tell
[09:57] <harvest> Need to add offtopic channel - sorry.
[09:57] <PrebenR> Every time I start my computer the master volume is muted. How can I change this or is it a jaunty bug?
[09:57] <Slart> psy7th: that really made a big difference? I tried it but it didn't do that much for me
[09:58] <Slart> PrebenR: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:58] <Slart> !jaunty
[09:59] <Omen> how do yawl prefer to use this, with Xchat or Pidgin?
[09:59] <SockPants> irssi
[09:59] <ziroday> !best > Omen
[09:59] <psy7th> Slart: it did for me. the boot time was fast, but some apps were unresponsive (ie firefox). don't know if this is an issue related to the ssd itself or the intel atom processor
[09:59] <Slart> Omen: you mean irc? lots of clients out there.. try !irc for some info
[09:59] <Dima_Sharihin> SockPants, yeah, irssi is good. but only in fb... in terminal it looks bad)
[10:00] <SockPants> Dima_Sharihin: i only have a terminal though
[10:00] <Slart> psy7th: hmm.. interesting.. I'll have to do some proper benchmarks next time
[10:01] <psy7th> Slart: used this guide: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/04/four-tweaks-for-using-linux-with-solid-state-drives/
[10:01] <Whoopie> Hi, I burned the jaunty live CD and it booted fine. But I got the login screen and had to enter username/password. But what are the user credentials?
[10:01] <Slart> !jaunty | Whoopie
[10:01] <psy7th> Slart: skip to the part where he writes about the scheduler
[10:02] <Whoopie> Slart: thanks
[10:02] <Slart> psy7th: thanks
[10:04] <Firefishe> Hi folks.  I'm having a problem with apt-get.  I was in the process of installing a game called rocksndiamonds (package name, rocks-n-diamonds).  It's sort of a Zelda Emulator.  Anyway, I keep getting errors that i need to run `dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  Well, I do that, and the process constantly hangs.  I want to just get rid of the rocksndiamonds program entirely.
[10:05] <SockPants> how do i unmute sound from the command line if its muted or something
[10:06] <{g}> On one of my Servers, I see loadaverages of about 0.5. But the CPU is idle about 90%. Isnt that unususal? Any idea how to find out which processes are waiting and why?
[10:06] <Slart> SockPants: try running "alsamixer"
[10:06] <Slart> SockPants: it's a command line mixer application
[10:06] <SockPants> thanks
[10:06] <Slart> SockPants: you can probably use alsactl for the same thing too
[10:09] <vigo> {g}: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugprocesses.html
[10:10] <vigo> {g}: That is a ps-aux like command
[10:10] <zzxxzz> Has anyone been successful in converting a number of .MOV files taken with a video camera into a VCD compliant .MPG file that will play on a TV player? I've been trying for a couple of weeks using mencoder, transcode, and various other methods with little to no success. Anyone able to provide a working script or link to where one can be obtained? Thanks
[10:10] <rocko> When i have created a user with the adduser command
[10:10] <rocko> how do i make it so it can use the sudo
[10:11] <vigo> rocko" gksudo
[10:11] <kklimonda> rocko: add him to group admin