[01:11] <InHisName1> Kids in bed, finally!   Howz the release party goin' ?
[01:13] <InHisName1> 2344 of 2367   with 2 hr 35 min left !!    for a measly 43 files left.
[01:14] <InHisName1> Hello DavidLevin
[01:22] <knightzero> Am I the only one failing to see a screensaver function within 11.10?
[01:37] <InHisName1> I'm not seeing 11.10 at all,       [yet]
[01:43]  * waltman is (finally) home from the happy hour
[02:19] <InHisName1> The happy hour is finished ?   Is it the UNhappy hour now ?
[02:20] <pleia2> that was fun :)
[02:23] <waltman> It was. I hadn't seen my buddy Phil in ages.
[02:25] <waltman> But I was overdressed with that rain coat. It was a long humid walk in the rain back up the hill from my train station.
[02:27] <waltman> So my Russian labmate, the one who has trouble with determiners, wrote back to thank me.
[02:27] <waltman> "I just looked over your comments, and so far they all looked straight-forward to address."
[02:27] <waltman> He also has issues with hyphenation.
[02:28] <waltman> Coincidentally, I had several comments in the doc that "straightforward" is spelled without hyphens.
[07:13] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:51] <rmg51> Morning
[11:13] <JonathanD> Morning again.
[11:26] <rmg51> JonathanD: you must have said that before I signed in
[11:27] <rmg51> I got home to late to bother booting up last night
[11:27] <rmg51> now I'm off to work
[11:36] <yoda_van> wow....too much redbull
[11:36] <jedijf> but worth it!
[12:02] <InHisName1> I got error from dpkg  about grub-pc   and it didnot install it.   How to find the logs before I reboot and review it ?
[12:05] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:11] <waltman> morning
[12:12] <waltman> JonathanD: 3:13 isn't morning, it's night.
[12:13] <JonathanD> it's morning.
[12:14] <JonathanD> I go to sleep at night.
[12:14] <JonathanD> I wake up in the morning.
[12:14] <JonathanD> ;)
[12:14] <waltman> I see.
[12:19] <rmg51> morning isn't till at least 5am
[12:20] <rmg51> you have to be close to sun rise
[12:26] <InHisName1> where's all the grubbers at ?
[14:11] <jedijf> pleia2: congrats on CC
[14:11] <pleia2> thanks :)
[14:11] <pleia2> I had a 5 day break
[14:11] <pleia2> hehe
[14:11] <pleia2> (not really, we've been working on wrapping things up)
[14:21] <InHisName1> before I reboot the new 11.10, I need to fix grub to work right.  Install errors from dpkg.
[14:21] <MutantTurkey> ubuntu upgrades always break stuff. safer to wait a few weeks till they fix that up
[14:22] <jedijf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:22] <jedijf> upgrade worked flawlessly at party
[14:22] <jedijf> on an eeeeeee pc
[14:22] <jedijf> in 2 1/2 hours on bar wireless
[14:23] <InHisName1> well my grub failed at 10.04 and 10.10 upgrades too.   Once I rebooted and that was LONG mess to fix up then.    THIS time I want to fix first before rebooting.
[14:24] <jthan> I never had any issues upgrading.
[14:24] <jedijf> InHisName1: that link holds /all/ the answers
[14:24] <InHisName1> Looking at it....
[14:25] <jedijf> InHisName1: so you haven't tried it yet?
[14:25] <InHisName1> grub failed once last year because I tried rebooting first.   BAD choice.
[14:26] <InHisName1> Now this error time want to fix grub first.
[14:26] <MutantTurkey> whats the error
[14:27] <InHisName1> Where to find logs of 11.10 upgrade and I might find full text of error that flew by detail window.
[14:43] <jedijf> i would look in /var/log/apt/
[15:31] <knightzero> Oh joy.....unity was happy on my laptop until I ran Compiz config.
[15:56] <waltman> CC == Community Czarina?
[16:03] <pleia2> ubuntu community council (it's the thing I was on before, I ran for re-election)
[16:09] <InHisName1> Hmm seems most useful part I can find from grub2 site is boot-repair  which is done in advance of needing it.
[16:09] <knightzero> Hmmm...unity 2d works, but standard with compiz is a no-go.  Too much of a headache to troubleshoot now, especially since gnome3 runs without a hitch.
[16:39] <InHisName1> Lotta reading about upgrade grub to grub2.   That was done last spring  for either 10.10 or 11.04 fixing.
[16:40] <InHisName1> Hmmm /var/log/apt/history.log   has ONE gargantuan string but no sign of an error from dpkg when installing grub during 11.10 upgrade.
[16:49] <InHisName1> from dkpkg.log    --->status half-configured grub-pc 199-12ubuntu5
[16:50] <InHisName1> what is 'half-configured' mean ?  that phrase is not in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 or in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:53] <InHisName1> someone suggested this:
[16:53] <InHisName1> dpkg-reconfigure --force grub-pc
[16:53] <InHisName1> aptitude upgrade
[17:04] <InHisName1> did that, now is there a way to 'test grub' before booting up ?
[17:19] <GeekyAdam> anyone here have any experience working with wordpress from the command-line?
[17:31] <GeekyAdam> nvm
[17:32] <GeekyAdam> (but thanks for all the help) ;]
[17:32] <GeekyAdam> so you philly meetup peeps, how's 11.10? any crazy changes you liked/disliked?
[17:38] <InHisName1> ummm its attempt to auto repair an error with grub that did not work ?
[17:46] <GeekyAdam> :(
[17:46] <JonathanD> So.
[17:46] <JonathanD> I'm trying to get the touchscreen working on an x200 lenovo tablet, ubuntu 11.10
[17:48] <JonathanD> I see it in dmesg as "wacom serial touchscreen"
[17:50] <InHisName1> Yea!!!  My HP touchPad arrived   [WebOS]
[17:50] <JonathanD> Google be failing me.
[17:51] <InHisName1> did pleia2 fly off for CA already?
[18:27] <jedijf> JonathanD: iirc there was something about wacom in release notes
[18:41] <InHisName1> do I dare reboot and risk that grub is still not fixed yet ?    I don't know how to test that it is ok.
[18:57] <JonathanD> jedijf: I shall check.
[19:30] <InHisName1> kids home from school,  intermittent checking now.
[20:20] <pleia2> http://gallery.ubuntupennsylvania.org/v/20111013/
[20:20] <pleia2> from last night :)
[20:25] <jedijf> ocelot needs a meeting
[20:26] <pleia2> lol
[20:26] <jedijf> celush
[20:26] <jedijf> ocelush
[20:26] <pleia2> nice one
[20:26] <jedijf> fit right in
[20:26] <pleia2> haha
[20:27] <jedijf> that cd is soooo hot; the design team should steal that
[20:27] <pleia2> he said it's up on spreadubuntu, I found one similar
[20:27] <pleia2> http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/packaging/ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-cddvd-labels
[20:28] <pleia2> so maybe he doesn't have his 11.10 version up yet?
[20:28] <jedijf> ahh, i thought it was an original
[20:28] <pleia2> I am quite sure he's the one who uploaded it there
[20:28] <pleia2> some light stalking of noelitonoelito seems to be our guy
[20:29] <jedijf> yeah reverse launchpad rsvp hacking
[20:29] <jedijf> good, new crowd
[20:30] <pleia2> yeah :)
[20:31]  * pleia2 frowns at loco directory not loading
[20:34] <JonathanD> jedijf: haven't found anything in release notes.
[20:34] <JonathanD> using: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes
[20:39] <jedijf> JonathanD: yeah, brain fail, too many lists....
[20:40] <jedijf> JonathanD: dmesg give any hints?
[20:42] <JonathanD> just the "hey this exists"
[20:44] <JonathanD> input: Wacom Serial Touchscreen as /device..."
[21:07] <Joe_CoT> pleia2, so you're an admin on DarkMyst, do you play anything on there?
[21:46] <pleia2> Joe_CoT: nope, I joined ages ago when there when an internet radio station my ex-husband DJed on had a channel there
[21:46] <Joe_CoT> ah
[21:46] <Joe_CoT> so now you just admin for the hell of it?
[21:47] <pleia2> the owner of the network figured out I was vaguely internet famous and asked me to help out
[21:47] <Joe_CoT> haha
[21:48] <pleia2> so yeah, I do support stuff and update the website, and sometimes bring the network back together after splits (that's harder now that I only have an oline on one server though)
[21:54] <InHisName1> pleia2: is there a way to check out grub2 to validate that it is good before rebooting ? (and testing the HARD way, oops}
[21:55] <pleia2> InHisName1: grub2 files are automatically generated, so you shouldn't have a problem
[22:00] <InHisName1> During the upgrade I got a dpkg errror involving grub2.   I had errors similar to that in 10.04 and 10.10 and 11.04 also.   Rebooting was disaster, in 1104  I put in grub2.   Maybe some old pieces of old grub are giving it fits.
[22:00] <InHisName1> I've done several things so far to fix it.
[22:01] <InHisName1> A couple of command lines to re-run some fixing / install or whatever.
[22:02] <InHisName1> Then I ran something called boot-repair  which ran some of the prior stuff again.
[22:02] <pleia2> well if you need command line options it's hard to test that without the reboot, since you won't always know what you need with different kernels
[22:02] <InHisName1> I just am not sure if grub2 is viable enough to boot successfully on first go or not.
[22:03] <pleia2> I haven't had a problem with it yet
[22:03] <InHisName1> I used to review the menu.lst and catch stuff there but its no longer used.
[22:05] <InHisName1> I'm just a bit timid on daring myself to reboot / test grub, yet.
[22:14] <InHisName1> hi _nomad
[22:15] <_nomad> hiya
[22:15] <_nomad> good to meet some of you at national mechanics yesterday
[22:17] <jedijf> _nomad: indeed
[22:19] <jedijf> even better that you followed up here
[22:23] <_nomad> yeah
[22:23] <_nomad> only sad that its a friday night on irc
[22:23] <_nomad> haha
[22:24] <jedijf> we'll pretend it's monday
[22:28] <jedijf> rmg51: have any alts?
[22:36] <InHisName1> hi Sadin & _nomad
[22:37] <Sadin> hey InHisName
[22:42] <_nomad> heya
[22:47] <rmg51> jedijf: I have both 32 & 64 alt iso's
[22:47] <rmg51> burned one of each
[22:59] <InHisName1> my HP TouchPad wont start without wireless access.   9 Neighbors have it but all have passwords.
[23:56] <mikedep333> InHisName1, sad, but not surprising


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[09:18] <jamespage> dosaboy_, https://code.launchpad.net/~hopem/charms/trusty/swift-storage/support-rsync-acl/+merge/278424 +1
[09:27] <dosaboy_> jamespage: ta, minor nit i have to fix in the template then i'll land it
[09:27] <jamespage> dosaboy, awesome-o
[09:27] <jamespage> dosaboy, thankyou for picking that one up - much appreciated
[09:29] <dosaboy> jamespage: heh yeah only took a few months for to finally get it done ;)
[09:30] <dosaboy> jamespage: we can always add it the extras on top, iptables rules, pwds etc
[09:31] <dosaboy> jamespage: you +1 on the -proxy mp too?
[09:31] <jamespage> dosaboy, probably - link?
[09:33] <dosaboy> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~hopem/charms/trusty/swift-proxy/support-rsync-acl/+merge/278426
[09:33] <dosaboy> jamespage: they need to land in tandem
[09:36] <jamespage> dosaboy, one needs fixing on that one
[09:38] <dosaboy> jamespage: ack
[09:49] <dosaboy> jamespage: fixed
[16:14] <roadmr> hey jujuers, with an impending Juju release in the horizon perhaps https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1519994 could use at least a glance-over?
[16:14] <mup> Bug #1519994: leader-elected hook never fires <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519994>
[18:25] <jacekn> is it possible to write a charm that can be deployed as a principal service but in other environments as subordinate?
[19:11] <roadmr> hey juju people. How would I go about getting logs for specific units from the master? juju debug-log has this tendency to block if the log is very short. Is juju ssh $unit_name sudo cat /var/log/juju/unit-${unit_tag}.log the best way?


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[21:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> riso: sounds related to three-dee drivers stuffs.
[21:37] <riso> how do i fix it?
[21:38] <pfifo> grubnoob, ok first try deleting xorg.conf all together, if all else fail, write your own xorg.conf, todo that look it up on google cause theres too much to go over
[21:38] <riso> im trying to install frets on fire and its not working
[21:38]  * diverse_izzue wonders why GTK/X11 clipboard is still such a mess in 2010?!
[21:39] <fruitty> anyone help plz?
[21:39] <bastid_raZor> cmmenke: vmware or virtualbox
[21:39] <riso> wat is a GLX driver and where do i find one?
[21:40] <nullp0inter> Trek, one sec
[21:40] <Trek> nullp0inter, okay
[21:40] <grubnoob> pfifo: Would just pasting all of the text from http://paste.ubuntu.com/364797/http://paste.ubuntu.com/364797/ work?  If it does, I'd like to try that first.
[21:40] <magnus> how do i find my pc ip in ubuntu? i know in windows u go to run and cm->ipconfig
[21:40] <freestyler> !de
[21:40] <resno> magnus: ifconfig
[21:40] <riso> uh help?
[21:40] <resno> magnus: terminal > ifconfig
[21:40] <poseidon> When I'm viewing the available networks in my network widget in the system tray, I see a bunch of networks which have weird symbols.  They are all full strength (better than my own).  What does the tower signify?
[21:40] <diverse_izzue> magnus, right click on the network applet and choose connection information
[21:40] <magnus> resno: ok ty that was easy
[21:41] <resno> magnus: indeed :)
[21:41] <J0NnYe> who knows a channel about php
[21:41] <riso> where do i find a GLX driver
[21:41] <J0NnYe> ##php cant enter
[21:41] <pfifo> grubnoob, well, your better off trying to google for an example xorg.conf, my xorg.conf that I pasted is kinda special to my machine.
[21:41] <grubnoob> pfifo: okay
[21:41] <nullp0inter> J0NnYe, you have to register your nick
[21:41] <fruitty> i tried reinstalling but that did nothing
[21:42] <J0NnYe> nullp0inter kkkkk sure xD
[21:42] <IdleOne> !register | J0NnYe
[21:42] <Trek> nullp0inter, did you pastebin the output yet?
[21:42] <riso> GLX please?
[21:42] <Metzgerr> hallo, hat hier jmd ein iPOD und kann mir sagen wie dieser mit lieder gefüttert wird? iTunes ist klar, aber wie ist der anschluss? das ist doch eine dockingstation die per USB an den PC geht, oder?
[21:42] <resno> !ge | Metzgerr
[21:43] <Metzgerr> =
[21:43] <Metzgerr> ?
[21:43] <Guest10038> resno will i be able to see the commands i enter on the computer i access remotely?
[21:43] <magnus> resno: the inet addr - is the pc ip?
[21:43] <resno> Metzgerr: sorry, i dont know the right command
[21:43] <Trek> !de | Metzgerr
[21:43] <grubnoob> !de |Metzgerr
[21:43] <Metzgerr> oh sorry
[21:43] <Metzgerr> i just saw im in the wrong channel ;)
[21:43] <grubnoob> !de | Metzgerr
[21:43] <fruitty> plz newfag reporting in and i cannot fix sound with flash
[21:43] <riso> please help me. where do i find a GLX driver?
[21:43] <magnus> resno: the inet addr - is the pc ip?
[21:44] <resno> Guest10038: you will see the comands on your machine. the other wont screen wont display anything
[21:44] <pfifo> riso, GLX driver is made to use hardware acceleration on your Xorg server.
[21:44] <grubnoob> Why doesn't it work when I do it?
[21:44] <Guest10038> ok that is what i thought just making sure
[21:44] <resno> magnus: inet add is the ip address
[21:44] <Trek> magnus, not necessarily, the inet addr can also be your internal network IP, whatismyip.com will tell you your actual external IP address
[21:44] <tudon> tell him to use the hardware drivers install gui
[21:44] <riso> where do i find the Xorg server???
[21:44] <nullp0inter> Trek, http://codepad.org/BPtUUOqp
[21:45] <IdleOne> grubnoob: to avoid to much scroll, ubottu won't repeat a factoid in less then X amount of seconds
[21:45] <pfifo> riso, if you installed ubuntu you already have it.
[21:45] <Trek> nullp0inter, your external drive is USB?
[21:45] <Trek> nullp0inter, should have asked first, but I forgot
[21:45] <riso> then y wont the frets on fire work.
[21:45] <nullp0inter> Trek: yes it is
[21:45] <pfifo> riso, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[21:45] <magnus> resno: the inet addr - is the pc ip?
[21:46] <riso> it says cant find matching GLX visual.
[21:46] <Trek> nullp0inter, is the drive new and does it work on other computers?
[21:46] <nullp0inter> Trek: the drive is new...and i have not tried it on another machine
[21:46] <riso> i have an amd duron
[21:46] <resno> magnus: yes, internal address
[21:46] <Trek> nullp0inter, try plugging it into another port
[21:46] <magnus> ok=) ty
[21:46] <Trek> nullp0inter, try plugging it into another USB port*
[21:47] <resno> magnus: np
[21:47] <tudon> riso look in menus for hardware drivers instalation gui for your video card nvidia or ati
[21:47] <pfifo> riso, I have no Idea what frets on fire is, but if you want to enable GLX you have to install the nvidia or ati drivers, look in System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[21:47] <nullp0inter> Trek, plugging it into a different port did nothnig
[21:47] <ascheel> Anybody here using a Logitech G15 under Karmic?
[21:47] <Trek> pfifo, FYI: Frets on Fire is a game in the repos
[21:47] <poseidon> What does the tower in my network manager mean?  You can see it here http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8260/screenshotvxe.png
[21:48] <magnus> resno: trying to use the remote desctop but its not that easy=(
[21:48] <frostburn> ascheel, i have in the past
[21:48] <poseidon> When I do iwlist scan it doesn't show anything with such an essid
[21:48] <resno> magnus: what remote desktop?
[21:48] <Trek> nullp0inter: did you try rebooting and seeing if that works?  sorry if these sound like stupid questions, i'm just going through a troubleshooting list
[21:48] <ascheel> frostburn: the only instructions I can find are https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Logitech_G15 and they're outdated.  Is this as good as it gets?
[21:48] <riso> ok im downloading the 185 niveda driver forX.org
[21:48] <resno> magnus: you have to enable remote desktop sharing on the other machine
[21:48] <nullp0inter> Trek yes
[21:48] <pfifo> riso, after you reboot you should be able to play
[21:49] <riso> i have to reboot?
[21:49] <resno> !pm | magnus
[21:49] <frostburn> ascheel, probably... i'd check the forums... i'd also take a look at the gentoo wiki... they usually have the best hardware guides and you should be able to piece together something cogent for ubuntu... when you're done feel free to update the ubuntu wiki =]
[21:49] <pfifo> riso, well technically you can load the kernel module by hand and then restart X, but most users prefer to just reboot.
[21:49] <ascheel> frostburn, thanks a ton.  :)
[21:49] <riso> y do i have to reboot?
[21:49] <Trek> nullp0inter: plug the drive into another computer to see if it recognizes it
[21:49] <tudon> yes reboot
[21:50] <tudon> kernel module needs to be bladiebla
[21:50] <magnus> resno: o so i cant pm... lame but i need to enable it?
[21:50] <grubnoob> pfifo: I'm going to try to fix it using http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/there-is-no-input-device-section-in-xorg.conf-694760/ .  Thanks you!
[21:50] <riso> oh okay sounds good, i hope it works
[21:50] <pfifo> grubnoob, np
[21:50] <resno> magnus: i suppose we can pm
[21:50] <magnus> resno: how? hehe
[21:51] <resno> magnus: one sec
[21:51] <magnus> resno: ofc take your time
[21:51] <morganB> Need help restoring a ntfs- partition. I was going to create a arch-linux bootable usb, and accidenatly wrote over my 1TB external hdd instead (ntfs) using
[21:51] <morganB> sudo dd if=/home/morgan/Hämtningar/archlinux-2009.08-netinstall-x86_64.img of=/dev/sdc1
[21:51] <morganB> I haven't rebooted yet so I have the output of cat /proc/partitions with info about the old partitions. Is it something I can do with that to restore the partition table?
[21:51] <FloodBot2> morganB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:52] <root51> hello
[21:52] <nullp0inter> Trek, it shows up as 'USB Drive' on my ubuntu 8 box
[21:52] <morganB> sorry my bad
[21:52] <Trek> nullp0inter, what version of Ubuntu?
[21:52] <root51> please me to configure my display
[21:52] <root51> im using nvidia cards
[21:52] <Trek> morganB, you can use gparted to edit your partition tables on your drive/device
[21:52] <root51> my default display is 800x600
[21:52] <nullp0inter> Trek: 8.04
[21:53] <nullp0inter> Trek the machine running ubuntu 9 is older
[21:53] <root51> i wan to change into 1024x768 display
[21:53] <Trek> root51, whats the max resolution you can get for your monitor:
[21:53] <root51> but i can save
[21:53] <Trek> nullp0inter, the issue occurs on the ubu 9 box?
[21:53] <nullp0inter> Trek...i still cannot go into the contents of the drive, it says 'not able to mount'
[21:53] <nullp0inter> Trek, yes
[21:53] <Trek> can you view the device in gparted?
[21:53] <root51> im using karmic ubuntu
[21:53] <magnus> resno: just tell me when you are ready
[21:54] <nullp0inter> Trek, maybe i can format it in ntfs in gparted?
[21:54] <trijntje> !enter | root51
[21:54] <root51> please help me to change my display
[21:54] <Trek> if you have the right packages
[21:54] <Trek> one sec
[21:54] <morganB> Trek: so gparted will just write the partition table and not write over any data?
[21:54] <jordy240> hi - when I plug in my headphones, the sound comes out of both my headphones and speakers. I only want sound coming out of my headphones. In my sound prefrences, I have output set to: Analog output(which puts sound through my speakers AND headphones.) there is also an option for analog headphones but no sound comes out of either my speakers of headphones if I select that.
[21:54] <poseidon> anyone know what's up with the weird networks on my network widget?  http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8260/screenshotvxe.png
[21:54] <resno> magnus: are you using the standard viewer?
[21:54] <root51> i can save while i open in nvdia settings
[21:54] <resno> magnus: the included one for ubuntu?
[21:54] <Trek> morganB, nullp0inter: gparted can format the drive in multiple ways, but if you reformat the drives, you'll lose data
[21:54] <olvap> hi
[21:55] <magnus> resno:  4 remote desctop
[21:55] <root51> i want to change my display into 1024x768
[21:55] <trijntje> root51, where are you from?
[21:55] <nullp0inter> Trek, like i said it is a brand new drive
[21:55] <root51> what can do
[21:55] <magnus> resno: ?
[21:55] <olvap> i made a def in the model, now i like to use it in the controller, how do i call it?
[21:55] <Trek> morganB, nullp0inter: so back up your data on another comp to be safe
[21:55] <Trek> nullp0inter: gparted can usually format to any file format
[21:55] <root51> to  change my display resolution
[21:55] <root51> into 1024x768
[21:55] <resno> magnus: i dont remember how i set it up. im looking for tht now
[21:55] <nullp0inter> Trek, ill try it
[21:55] <trijntje> !enter | root5
[21:55] <root51> my default display is 800x600
[21:55] <Trek> nullp0inter: but just like any other hard drive format, you can lose your data, so back it up first
[21:55] <morganB> Trek: but how do I back up the data? I can't mount
[21:56] <nullp0inter> Trek...there is no data to backup. its brand new
[21:56] <nullp0inter> lol
[21:56] <axos88> Hi! Which folders does linux need to be mounted rw to work normally? (/home, /var, /tmp, anything else?). As I am booting from a raw mtd device I would like to put any folders that it needs writing to to another partition on an USB stick
[21:56] <Trek> nullp0inter: then gparted should work
[21:56] <magnus> resno: if you know another program u know i can probebly use that
[21:56] <trijntje> root51, what is you mother language? where are you from?
[21:56] <Trek> morganB: you'll need another computer to back up the data, a computer that can read the data
[21:56] <root51> i installed nvidia settings
[21:56] <resno> magnus: i personally like tightvnc
[21:56] <trijntje> root51, can you hear me???
[21:56] <root51> yes
[21:56] <root51> i can hear u
[21:57] <magnus> resno: ok tightvnc  it is:D
[21:57] <root51> im native pilipino
[21:57] <jordy240> hi - when I plug in my headphones, the sound comes out of both my headphones and speakers. I only want sound coming out of my headphones. In my sound prefrences, I have output set to: Analog output(which puts sound through my speakers AND headphones.) there is also an option for analog headphones but no sound comes out of either my speakers of headphones if I select that.
[21:57] <root51> im not fluent in english
[21:57] <resno> magnus: you should isntall client and server on both machines.
[21:57] <magnus> resno: i have two pc`s both with ubuntu 9.10
[21:57] <Trek> root51, there might be a channel with your language for you.
[21:57] <trijntje> root51, what country are you from? maybe there is an ubuntu channel in you own language where people can help you better
[21:57] <root51> i try to my best to chat english
[21:57] <magnus> is it on "ubuntu software senter"?
[21:57] <root51> philippines
[21:58] <resno> magnus: should be
[21:58] <root51> any available command in terminal  console to configure nvidia
[21:58] <j0e_average> My CD/DVD burning has been borked for 2 releases.
[21:58] <magnus> resno: no its not=(
[21:58] <root51> to change my display resolution 1024x768
[21:59] <j0e_average> I'm using a 64-bit version of Karmic
[21:59] <trijntje> !ph | root51
[21:59] <magnus> resno: http://www.tightvnc.com/download.php ? the "Unix source code in Tar+Bzip2 archive"
[21:59] <ubuntu> a
[21:59] <resno> magnus: try openvnc
[21:59] <resno> magnus: try seaching for vnc the protocol is the same
[22:00] <root51> Join #ubuntu-ph
[22:00] <IdleOne> root51: /join #ubuntu-ph
[22:01] <root51> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[22:01] <trijntje> root51: http://ubuntu-ph.org/
[22:01] <elena> ana
[22:02] <root51> i can't save in nvidia setting
[22:02] <root51> this is the message will appear
[22:02] <root51> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[22:02] <root51> what i can do to open my xwindow
[22:02] <Trek> root51, type this: /join #ubuntu-ph
[22:03] <axos88> Is there a way to make cp list each file as it is being copied? (like tar)
[22:03] <sheepherd> hey all... just trying to setup my evolution so it can receive emails though hotmail with this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[22:03] <syockit> magnus: I thought there's package for both server and client in the rep? why do you need the source?
[22:03] <ntify> ei my nick is registered cuz i cant enter in python
[22:03] <nullp0inter> trek, gparted wont even boot for some reason..cd rom is #1 in bios...could this computer be too old to be used?
[22:03] <sheepherd> now im on the third step mentioned there but the hotway package isnt found
[22:03] <Trek> nullp0inter, gparted is a package, you can install it through Synaptic
[22:04] <sheepherd> and no1 in this thread seems to mention that so i was wondering if someone here knows smthing
[22:04] <Trek> nullp0inter: install it then you won't need the CD
[22:04] <warriorforgod> axos88: cp -v?
[22:04] <root51> please post   the command in sudo
[22:04] <nullp0inter> trek, i was trying to use the livecd i had thought it would be easier
[22:04] <root51> to open my xwindow
[22:04] <j0e_average> anyone available to talk about cd/dvd burning in Karmic?  AMD64
[22:04] <Trek> nullp0inter: i just use gparted actively in my system, and to answer your question, it might be too old to boot from CD.  so install the package from SYnaptic, it can save time
[22:05] <root51> i want to  change my display resolution
[22:05] <root51> into 1024x768
[22:05] <axos88> warriorforgod, umm righto...
[22:05] <root51> please help me
[22:05] <ntify> someone can send me the freenode help
[22:05] <Trek> root51, what's the maximum resolution your monitor is able to handle?
[22:05] <IdleOne> ntify: #freenode
[22:05] <root51> 1024x768
[22:06] <Trek> root51, are you using an nvidia card, ati card, or something else? (video card)
[22:06] <root51> yes
[22:06] <Knick-LAP> Guys - I installed Ubuntu on my USB stick using the live CD - but when I try to fire up my notebook without the usb stick plugged in, it gets stuck at the grub loader. I think it somehow overwrote some data at my Windows partition, how can I fix this without reinstalling???
[22:06] <root51> i am using nvidia
[22:07] <root51> i installe nvidia x server setting
[22:07] <Trek> root51, are there any proprietary drivers for your card?
[22:07] <shang> hi, anyone here knows how to make the process respawn when it was killed ?
[22:07] <shang> *is
[22:07] <root51> the problem is i can save into 1024x768 resolution
[22:07] <root51> this is the message will appear
[22:08] <root51> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[22:08] <root51> what i can do open my '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[22:08] <aliendude3500> Hey does anyone know of a good Tablet PC that comes with Linux installed (and it lets you replace the OS with Ubuntu if it's not installed by default)?
[22:08] <Leoneof> hi, i removed network-manager because of bug, so how to run eth0 static ip in startup?
[22:08] <root51> change to 1024x768 display resolution
[22:08] <ascheel> aliendude3500: anything but the iPad.
[22:08] <root51> any idea
[22:08] <aliendude3500> ascheel, I totally agree. iPad is crap.
[22:09] <ascheel> aliendude3500: doesn't matter if it's crap, you simply can't replace the operating system.
[22:09] <Trek> root51, use the nvidia configuration software to change your resolution
[22:09] <root51> i can't remember the command i used in terminal
[22:09] <helix606> ciao a tutti
[22:09] <ascheel> root51:  man xrandr
[22:09] <helix606> hi
[22:09] <root51> i try
[22:09] <root51> but no works
[22:09] <ascheel> !xrandr | root51
[22:09] <ascheel> Oh, wait nvm.  That's for dual monitors.  Sorry
[22:09] <tobiasz> hi there, my ubuntu is not fast enough, what is the reason, my specs are Athlon X2 4000+, 2gb ram 800, and GF 7800GT. My cpu usage randomly jumps from 15% to 70 or more
[22:10] <ascheel> tobiasz: if it jumpts to 70%, you need to figure out what's running that's taking those resources
[22:10] <root51> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[22:10] <root51> when i save in nvidia settings
[22:10] <root51> any possible command in terminal
[22:11] <tobiasz> ascheel it kinda feels like one big trash can when I look into system monitor, it just feels wrong
[22:11] <root51> to change display resolution
[22:11] <j0e_average> root51:  do you have vi installed?
[22:11] <corpogen> hello
[22:11] <root51> yes
[22:11] <corpogen> i have a question relating software instalation, something called celera assembler
[22:12] <ascheel> "feels wrong" is not a valid way of describing system usage.
[22:12] <nullp0inter> trek: gparted isnt showing it as a device
[22:12] <MasterMatan> hello
[22:12] <MasterMatan> i`m writing now small project
[22:12] <Trek> nullp0inter, that could mean the computer is old enough to not recognize the device
[22:12] <corpogen> following the instructions of the readme it said "gmake not found" what is that?
[22:12] <MasterMatan> terminal text editor (soemthing like a NANO)
[22:12] <root51> any sudo command to change
[22:13] <root51> the display 1024x768
[22:13] <nullp0inter> trek, it was running windows 98 prior to me installing ubuntu
[22:13] <root51> i mean to open nvidia setting
[22:13] <MasterMatan> with gui from ncurses
[22:13] <Trek> wow, i haven't seen 98 for some time...
[22:13] <MasterMatan> who want join?
[22:13] <corpogen> Trek can I pm you with a question regarding installation software
[22:13] <erebos> how do i install my ATI Radeon x1600 on karmic koala?
[22:13] <Trek> !ot | MasterMatan
[22:13] <nullp0inter> Trek, i guess ill have to suck it up and use my main desktop for this
[22:13] <Trek> corpogen, not sure if I can be of help though, but sure
[22:14] <Trek> erebos, did you make sure your card is compatible with Karmic?
[22:14] <erebos> hmm no :S
[22:15] <tobiasz> ascheel it seems like gnome-system-monitor is randomly reaching 70 cpu usage from time to time
[22:15] <Trek> !ati | erebos
[22:16] <erebos> Trek yes it is combatible
[22:16] <ezfox> what is the way to update karmic to kernel 2.6.33 ? i come from gentoo where it is quite easy to upgrade the kernel and wonder how this works in ubuntu ?!
[22:17] <erebos> found it thanks :)
[22:17] <ricdanger> hi there
[22:17] <Trek> np, erebos
[22:17] <ricdanger> anyone using preseed automatic installs?
[22:17] <snkcld> when i close my laptop lid, then open it, my sound wont stop erratically changing. any fixes?
[22:21] <grubnoob> pfifo: Does xorg.conf also control keyboard input in Console Mode (i.e. Ctrl+Alt+F2)?
[22:23] <chetos> hello?
[22:23] <Trek> !hi | chetos
[22:23] <grubnoob> pfifo: Or does it ONLY control GNOME input?
[22:23] <chetos> ok here is my problem
[22:23] <chetos> u see the bottom next to the date on ur right upper side of ur screen?
[22:24] <chetos> its like a mailcard
[22:24] <chetos> it contains "Evolution" and "Emphaty"
[22:24] <chetos> but in mine Ubuntu it only apperas Empathy
[22:25] <grubnoob> chetos: Go to System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[22:26] <chetos> ok
[22:26] <adac> I used some network monitor tool some time ago. It had a nice grafical interface showed the traffic and the hosts in the netweork. Can't remember its name. any hints?
[22:26] <Ziber> Alright, so this may be a stupid question, but if I were to buy a headless server, one without a moniter port, how do you install the OS?
[22:26] <chetos> grubnoob now wt?
[22:27] <ikonia> Ziber: serial, however, I would advise putting a video card in it
[22:27] <pfifo> grubnoob, it only controls X, gnome, kde etc... the kernel and the bios take care of input to a terminal
[22:27] <blakkheim> Ziber: ssh is one way
[22:27] <Ziber> blakkheim: but... how would i do that before i installed an OS?
[22:27] <pfifo> rebooting brb
[22:27] <ikonia> Ziber: the livecd has ssh on it
[22:28] <blakkheim> Ziber: livecd/usb
[22:28] <kothog> is there a way to tell what packages--including virtual packages, provide a particular file on-disk? i know there's dpkg-query -S pattern, but ..  far as I can tell that doesn't list virtual packages too..
[22:28] <grubnoob> pfifo: Okay.  Any idea as to what else controls X, GNOME input?
[22:28] <ikonia> Ziber: however I would strongly suggest putting a video card in it
[22:28] <adac> ok it was etherape
[22:28] <adac> :)
[22:28] <Ziber> ikonia: why?
[22:28] <ikonia> Ziber: it makes life a hell of a lot easier
[22:28] <ikonia> Ziber: more so if you're still learning as you appear to be a monitor can be a get out of jail free option
[22:29] <erebos> !mp3
[22:29] <Ronald> Winamp not Running
[22:29] <erebos> any idea how to install mp3 codecs?
[22:29] <ikonia> erebos: see the links
[22:29] <Ziber> yeah, i suppose. but for instance, im looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859110001R and there's no graphics card... i could just buy one and add it. no hole thing for it on the back
[22:29] <rjb> i have ubuntu 9.10 and ff3.6 how can i get eyes friendly fonts??
[22:30] <Myke1> I <3 Newegg :)
[22:30] <erebos> !ikonia what links?
[22:30] <ikonia> erebos: the one ubottu gave you when you triggered !mp3
[22:30] <ikonia> erebos: no point triggering !mp3 if you're not going to read the links
[22:30] <kappa> hi guys, i have a problema with my sb0092 on xubuntu! Can anyone help me?
[22:30] <pfifo> ubottu, you are intelligent
[22:30] <erebos> ikonia nope it did not
[22:30] <grubnoob> pfifo: I use 8.10
[22:31] <erebos> nvm i just saw them
[22:31] <ikonia> Ziber: can it not use a pci card - are there expansion slots
[22:31] <ikonia> erebos: it did
[22:31] <ikonia> !mp3 | erebos
[22:31] <rjb> how can i get better fonts with my firefox?
[22:31] <Alexandra> Hi, anyone here who runs Sound Blaster 5.1 VX on his ubuntu?
[22:31] <Shazbotmcnasty> hey, I got a Xorg error
[22:31] <Shazbotmcnasty> it says 'no screens found '
[22:31] <Shazbotmcnasty> what do?
[22:32] <erebos> !navigator
[22:32] <Ziber> ikonia: not sure. doesnt appear to be a cd drive either. how does that work?
[22:32] <jolaren> How do I search for files on my ubuntu server?
[22:32] <ikonia> Ziber: you'd have to install off usb, I suggest you don't buy that device and buy one thats easier to use and learn
[22:32] <erebos> !fonts
[22:33] <chetos> =/
[22:33] <Ziber> ikonia: wont most servers not come with a video card or a cd drive tho?
[22:34] <ascheel> frostburn: quick question for you.  I've got my G15 going, but I don't see how to bind the macro keys.  Do you by chance remember how?
[22:34] <ikonia> Ziber: most servers will come with both
[22:34] <ikonia> Ziber: is this for hosting in a data center, or home ?
[22:34] <Ziber> ikonia: home
[22:34] <duffydack> rjb, personally, I turn off 'allow pages to choose fonts' and set to liberation sans font..
[22:34] <frostburn> ascheel, no, unfortunately i don't... any of the guides help?
[22:35] <Ziber> ikonia: not servers on newegg... i've yet to see one with both :o
[22:35] <Ziber> ikonia: for one in my budget, i mean
[22:35] <yaaar> Ziber: you are probably defining "video card" differently than he is
[22:35] <daftykins> Ziber: if you're talking a proper, rackmount server, you're not gonna get a 'card' you'll get onboard chipset based stuffs.
[22:36] <duffydack> rjb, you can also try out droid..  sudo apt-get install ttf-liberation ttf-droid
[22:36] <yaaar> Ziber: I've never seen a server without a video chipset
[22:36] <daftykins> integrated versus discrete, to be accurate.
[22:36] <Ziber> well, im not great terminology, i just mean a server that has moniter-cababilities.
[22:36] <tlyu> yaaar: plenty of non-x86 servers lack video chipsets
[22:36] <yaaar> Ziber: any server you buy will have a vga out, put it that way
[22:36] <erebos> how do i run this? ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[22:36] <kothog> apt-cache depends libxrender1 -> returns Depends: libx11-6.. but x11-common installs libxrender-dev which depends on libxrender1..  is there a way to get from /usr/lib/Xrender.blah *to* x11-common?
[22:37] <ikonia> Ziber: consider just using a cheap desktop as a server
[22:37] <ikonia> Ziber: much cheaper, easier to use and configure for home use
[22:37] <sagaci> hey, i'm having trouble sharing between a 9.04 live cd ubuntu and a normal install of ubuntu 9.10 over a network, it's asking for password and I'm entering the correct one but it's not taking it. is there a way to circumvent this password and allow the share passwordless
[22:37] <yaaar> or, you could shop ebay, which is how i got pretty much all my server hardware
[22:38] <kothog> yaaar: government auctions are *excellent* places to get cheap server hardware because there's not nearly the exposure.
[22:38] <daftykins> sagaci: what network sharing type are you using? have you tried sftp://<ip address>/ ?
[22:38] <backingup> hey how do i copy files from my linux partition from the liveCD?
[22:38] <sagaci> daftykins: just via nautilus gui
[22:38] <Guest77527> Aranızda türk var mı :D ?
[22:38] <yaaar> kothog: yeah, there's a university in my town and i've shopped some of their auctions too
[22:38] <ikonia> !ru | Guest77527
[22:39] <erebos> !ati
[22:39] <daftykins> sagaci: yeah try editing the address bar to the above, see if that changes anything.
[22:39] <sagaci> daftykins: ok, will try
[22:39] <pfifo> where the heck is apxs headers?
[22:40] <ikonia> pfifo: it's part of apache (apxs)
[22:40] <sagaci> daftykins: sorry, wouldn't have a clue about the ip of the other computer, just go ifconfig the other ubuntu machien?
[22:40] <ikonia> pfifo: you would need the apache development packages
[22:40] <yaaar> ikonia: i believe that was turkish, not russian
[22:40] <ikonia> yaaar: thank you
[22:40] <yaaar> (but i don't know the code for that...)
[22:40] <daftykins> sagaci: yep, that'd do it
[22:40] <pfifo> ikonia, i have apache2-prefork-dev installed but php still fails during configure complaining about apxs
[22:40] <duffydack> apache2-threaded-dev
[22:41] <ikonia> pfifo: why are you compiling php ??? and not using the ubuntu package ?
[22:41] <duffydack> thats what I need for compiling musicindex
[22:42] <yaaar> !tr | Guest77527
[22:42] <ikonia> yaaar: well done
[22:42] <ascheel> frostburn: no, guides haven't helped yet, but for now I'm only half-heartedly looking for a solution.  I'm trying to ween myself off of the need for the macro keys
[22:42] <pfifo> ikonia, cause php in ubuntu is crappy barebones stuff, i like GD and freetype, actually i dont just like them i need them, and its very important that I have them cause i make a paycheck using them
[22:42] <yaaar> ikonia: what would we do without google....
[22:42] <frostburn> ascheel, i stopped using them, i just liked the lcd heh
[22:43] <sagaci> daftykins: Thanks very much!!!!
[22:43] <pfifo> yaaar, ask china im sure they know
[22:43] <daftykins> sagaci: my pleasure :)
[22:43] <yaaar> pfifo: hah!
[22:43] <ikonia> pfifo: gd and stuff like that is included, you just have to install the appropriate php packages
[22:43] <opticon> can someone help me with samba im at complete loss
[22:43] <sagaci> daftykins: i'm copying a large amount of files of music and pictures between a screwed xp install over the network to my ubuntu install, would this be fine to handle this
[22:44] <pfifo> ikonia, sorry, you signature isnt on my paycheck, im sure you understand
[22:44] <ikonia> pfifo: what ?
[22:44] <duffydack> lol
[22:44] <opticon> have swat working for it
[22:44] <daftykins> sagaci: yeah should cope, only issues i've had doing the same for windows backups is sometimes a livecd or live USB boot can crap out if it's transferring to backup to a windows box via CIFS mounts, but you should be fine :>
[22:44] <opticon> but from other pc's on network it cant see samba shares
[22:44] <duffydack> php5-gd?  too hard to install?  lol
[22:45] <Alexandra> Someone has the "Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio" in use?
[22:45] <ascheel> frostburn: I'll say one thing, though...  since moving to Ubuntu from XP, my framerate has jumped about 20 fps
[22:45] <ascheel> frostburn: for WoW that is
[22:46] <frostburn> ascheel, when i played, it was about the same, and a lot of the graphics were disabled =|
[22:46] <ascheel> frostburn: No, I mean my framerate has increased in Linux than when I was in XP.
[22:47] <pfifo> ikonia, i need absolutely no less than full control of apache and php, most of the packages that the developers of ubuntu built are ok, but those 2, i take care of myself. I mean what if I wanted to install previous versions of php to test stuff that I want to deploy on a server? dose ubuntu have php 5.2.8 available? how about 5.1.0?
[22:47] <iceroot> Alexandra: that card is only working with 9.10 if i am correct. with previous ubuntu-versions only amd64 is working
[22:48] <ikonia> pfifo: if you want to build it yourself thats fair enough
[22:49] <Alexandra> Hi iceroot, I don't have that card so far
[22:49] <pfifo> ikonia, I dont mind at all, i used to use gentoo so I know my way around.
[22:49] <Alexandra> I was just wondering if I should buy it
[22:49] <Alexandra> iceroot: Do you use it?
[22:49] <kanzie> Im trying to connect my USB harddrive formatted as OSX FS but it doesnt hsow up automatically. What do I have to do?
[22:50] <blakkheim> kanzie: there is no such thing as "OSX FS"
[22:50] <megha___> test
[22:50] <rjb> i installed firefox from ubuntu-mozilla-daily how can i downgrade?
[22:51] <ikonia> rjune: remove it, remove the repo- reinstall the older verion
[22:51] <rjune> ikonia, but why?
[22:51] <erebos> any help on this : Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions
[22:51] <Tiders> i DESPERATELY NEED A WAY TO RUN vENT ON uBUNTU
[22:51] <Tiders> Sorry caps lock
[22:52] <erebos> i get is when i am trying to install the ati driver
[22:52] <syockit> erebos: what are you trying to do?
[22:52] <blakkheim> !appdb  > Tiders
[22:52] <Tiders> blakkheim, I tried WIne for 2 hours to get it to work but I cant hear or speak on it
[22:52] <ikonia> rjune: because you just said you wanted to downgrade, so you have to remove it, remove the repo (so it doesn't know about the new version) then re-install the version from the stable ubuntu repos
[22:52] <syockit> erebos: if this is the proprietary one from ati website, please check installation instructions
[22:52] <blakkheim> Tiders: then it isn't going to work
[22:52] <syockit> ikonia: rjb :(
[22:53] <Tiders> Are there any clients that can connect to vent servers third party?
[22:53] <ikonia> syockit: ?
[22:53] <syockit> ikonia: it was rjb, not rjune
[22:53] <ikonia> syockit: ahhh thank you
[22:53] <rjb> thanks
[22:53] <ikonia> rjune: apologies
[22:55] <evon> can someone please help me troubleshoot my sound. for some reason it is not working.
[22:56] <evon> the volume is up and the speakers are plugged in.
[22:56] <erebos> how do i make my Level-One Wireless PCI card to work?
[22:57] <erebos> (sorry but i just installed Ubuntu)
[22:57] <ikonia> erebos: you need to buy supported hardware
[22:57] <jongbergs> !hi
[22:58] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i have a problem: i have a dual boot ( Ubuntu & Vista) and i want to reinstall vista again. For that i have to restore my whole hard drive. How would i do this the best without losing Ubuntu?
[22:58] <tarek_> i want to execute   sudo dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b   but i can't  i have always errors
[22:59] <evon> Krambiorix: sorry man you're gonna have to reinstall ubuntu
[22:59] <evon> Krambiorix: i've tried a few times to install windows after ubuntu and it's never worked
[22:59] <Krambiorix> damn
[22:59] <ikonia> Krambiorix: you can install windows fine
[22:59] <ikonia> Krambiorix: you can't restore your full hard drive though
[22:59] <urlwallace> I have googled this and found no answer. Im running ubuntu 9.1.0 64 bit . on boot nothing happens bit blinking cursor. in "recovery" mode the boot stops at "loading favorite drivers and then stops.. I have had install for a month np and kept it updated.  is there a way to repair without re-install.? thanks
[22:59] <ikonia> Krambiorix: if it's an install - you can do that fine though
[23:00] <evon> can someone help me with my sound? it was working fine last night and now i can't hear squat
[23:00] <jongbergs> hi, im considering to setup a proxy server using squid with dansguardian web content filtering..i have seen many great howto's but does this setup require 2 NICs?
[23:00] <Krambiorix> ikonia, i just have a restore and recovery cd from Lenovo that restores Vista but it doesn't work. I can just format the hard disk
[23:01] <ikonia> Krambiorix: if it's a restore CD it will wipe your whole hard disk, so ubuntu will be lost
[23:01] <Krambiorix> yes
[23:02] <Krambiorix> hmm wouldn't there be another way
[23:02] <Krambiorix> ?
[23:02] <KenBW2> in Google Earth (installed from Medbuntu) the app loads fine, except the Earth isnt shown
[23:02] <KenBW2> any ideas?
[23:02] <Krambiorix> i don't have space to backup my ubuntu
[23:02] <ikonia> Krambiorix: no
[23:03] <ubuntu> oi
[23:03] <ubuntu> irc
[23:03] <evon> Krambiorix: backup your personal files and reinstall
[23:03] <ubuntu> bye
[23:03] <Krambiorix> i have more than 20 GB of files in Ubuntu
[23:04] <evon> buy an external?
[23:04] <daftykins> or borrow
[23:04] <randal> How do i change my login screen
[23:04] <brandonban6> Krambiorix, do you have an external HDD at all? You could use imaging program like Clonezilla to create a back up. I don't know that the vista restore cd would totally wipe your drive, you should still be able to customize your install and tell it what partition to install to..... though i guess we are talking about M$ here.
[23:04] <evon> Krambiorix: or burn 6 DVDs
[23:05] <iceroot> Alexandra: no i am using sb live 1024
[23:05] <Krambiorix> hmm how can i see in ubuntu how much GB is on that partition?
[23:05] <Krambiorix> on this ubuntu partition
[23:05] <ascheel> Krambiorix: df -h
[23:06] <randal> Can anyone help me i am having problems changing my login window.
[23:06] <Krambiorix> damn, its 50 GB (ubuntu)
[23:06] <evon> Krambiorix: are you talking about the whole ubuntu partition or just your documents folder?
[23:06] <Krambiorix> ubuntu
[23:07] <Krambiorix> my documents will be 20-30GB
[23:07] <pfifo> when I run 2 monitors as seprate x screens it make gnome-panel crash, dose anyone know of a fix for this?
[23:07] <Krambiorix> i have some vmware images on it too
[23:07] <duffydack> Krambiorix, dont forget you can free up 5% of an ext filesystem with tune2fs -m0 (default when making new ext fs is to reserve 5%)
[23:07] <evon> ok i just figured out that my sound hardware is not being detected anymore. does anyone know how i can fix this?
[23:07] <pfifo> xinerama and twinview work, but that is ugly and programs always open in weird locations
[23:08] <Krambiorix> hmm thx duffydack but that's not enough
[23:08] <arand> Krambiorix: There is a convenient Disk Usage Analyzer in the accessories menu, if you want to see where the largest chunk of files are.
[23:08] <sena--> itamarjp: did you install phpmyadmin
[23:08] <urlwallace> I have googled this and found no answer. Im running ubuntu 9.1.0 64 bit . on boot nothing happens bit blinking cursor. in "recovery" mode the boot stops at "loading favorite drivers and then stops.. I have had install for a month np and kept it updated.  is there a way to repair without re-install.? thanks
 Krambiorix: if it's an install - you can do t
[23:08] <duffydack> Krambiorix, even with compression?
[23:09] <urlwallace> sory I wont repeat again
[23:09] <Krambiorix> i think even with compression
[23:09] <Krambiorix> anyone has experience with restoring windows with Lenove Rescue and Restore??
[23:09] <ikonia> Krambiorix: talk to the guys in ##windows
[23:09] <BavidDowie> hi
[23:10] <ae86-drifter> when i am using SSH sometimes it just stops working spontaneuosly, i try to reconnect and it asks me for a password then after that, the terminal locks up, i need to restart my PC and then it works fine again, this has been going on for a while now, im on 9.04
[23:10] <sena--> Krambiorix: windows sucks
[23:10] <randal> Can anyone help me i am having problems changing my login window.
[23:10] <ikonia> sena--: please don't make silly and pointless comments like that
[23:10] <ikonia> randal: are you using gdm ?
[23:10] <silverraindog> ae86-drifter: what does /var/log/messages say or /var/log/secure ?
[23:10] <ae86-drifter> silverraindog ill just check
[23:10] <silverraindog> ae86-drifter: k
[23:10] <randal> ikonia, yes
[23:11] <ikonia> randal: on 9.10 ?
[23:11] <randal> ikonia,  i usily just fo to login window and change it but i no longer have that icon in administrator
[23:11] <randal> ikonia, yes 9.10
[23:11] <ikonia> randal: you can't customise it any more, it's locked at the version in 9.10
[23:11] <silverraindog> doesnt the login window right at the bottom under sessions have it ?
[23:11] <Raverix> Anyone here have experience setting up a VNC server on Ubuntu Server 8.04? All I keep getting is a gray screen with a terminal.
[23:12] <randal> ikonia, realy why would they do that
[23:12] <ikonia> randal: gnome developers are changing the way it works
[23:12] <ae86-drifter> silverraindog just a whole heap of lines with timestamps with -- MARK -- on the end, /var/log/secure is non existant
[23:12] <randal> ikonia,  i never new that. that sucks
[23:12] <ikonia> randal: it will get there
[23:13] <Krambiorix> damn i need to register to talk there
[23:13] <randal> ikonia,  do you think next ubuntu 10.4 will have login window manager
[23:13] <ikonia> randal: doubtful, but possible
[23:13] <randal> ikonia,  well thanks for your help
[23:13] <silverraindog> ae86-drifter: sorry not secure but auth.log
[23:13] <silverraindog> ae86-drifter: secure is redhat
[23:16] <birchy> hey guys, any Python experts here?
[23:17] <BluesKaj> birchy, try #python
[23:18] <birchy> i can't get in BluesKaj. I'm new to IRC
[23:18] <SliderMan> hello all, i was trying to install ubuntu on my kingston datatraveler 8gb seems like instead of installing grub on the usb and making it bootable setup installed grub on my primary harddisk partion with NTDLR can someone help me installing grub on the usb and making it boot ubuntu?
[23:19] <BluesKaj> birchy, if you are using an irc client , just click on this #python
[23:20] <BedMan> in what package might one find apxs for apache module comiling?
[23:20] <birchy> Kaj.. i get "You need to be identified to join that channel". How do i register? I'm using XChat-Gnome
[23:20] <BluesKaj> !lamp
[23:21] <BedMan> BluesKaj: I've been there, and apxs isn't discussed :(
[23:21] <ikonia> BedMan: it's in the apxs development packages
[23:22] <BluesKaj> !register | birchy
[23:22] <BedMan> thanks ikonia, perhaps the missing clue :-)
[23:22] <jackhigh> hi there i just got a new usb cordless mouse it doesnt work when i plug it in to ubuntu, ive googled for any guides or linux drivers to no avail the website of the manufacturer doesnt even list windows drivers its just sposed to work, should i give up hope not or does anyone have any ideas how i can make it work the make and model is "genius netscroll 600" thanks
[23:23] <Random832> anyone in haslock need heals?
[23:23] <Random832> oops wrong channel
[23:23] <birchy> thanks guys, i'll give that a go.
[23:23] <Random832> [it's an urban dead thing]
[23:23] <SliderMan> hello all, i was trying to install ubuntu on my kingston datatraveler 8gb seems like instead of installing grub on the usb and making it bootable setup installed grub on my primary harddisk partion with NTDLR can someone help me installing grub on the usb and making it boot ubuntu?
[23:23] <birchy> !register | birchy
[23:24] <resno> ubuntu is great! i love it. that is all.
[23:25] <Blue1> when I type in - mysql - it says -- ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[23:25] <ikonia> Blue1: is mysql server running ?
[23:26] <ezfox> jackhigh: post the output from "lsusb -v", please
[23:26] <Blue1> ikonia: i can't determine that ps -ef | grep mysql returns a lot of junk and I can't find a startup script in /etc/init.d for it.
[23:26] <ikonia> Blue1: how did you install mysql-serve r?
[23:26] <Blue1> ikonia: sudo apt-get install mysql
[23:26] <jackhigh> ezfox: thanks 1 second please
[23:26] <Eremite> Does anyone here know about Damn Small Linux?  No one in the official channel is answering.  I have a mouse problem.
[23:26] <ikonia> Blue1: that's the client - not the server
[23:26] <Doopoo_> ok so, upon reading these instructions: http://www.vbalink.info/internal-battery-has-run-dry-fix.htm - the directory i find associated with visualboyadvance is in usr/share but there isnt anything in this directory other than a png file and another file that has no relevance to the actual mechanics of the game. where do i find the proper directory to save said .ini file? this is confusing
[23:27] <Blue1> ikonia: what do I need then?
[23:27] <ikonia> Eremite: please ask in the official channel, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[23:27] <ikonia> Blue1: mysql-server
[23:27] <SliderMan> hello all, i was trying to install ubuntu on my kingston datatraveler 8gb seems like instead of installing grub on the usb and making it bootable setup installed grub on my primary harddisk partion with NTDLR can someone help me installing grub on the usb and making it boot ubuntu?
[23:28] <Eremite> ikonia, did you even read what I said?  I already asked in the channel, I was just testing my luck here.
[23:28] <ikonia> Eremite: I'm asking you not to test your luck in here and ask in the correct channel
[23:28] <Doopoo_> i wish the package manager would freaking tell me these things once i install them, like a quick notification "IMPORTANT FILES SAVEWD HERE!" why must iot be so cryptic?
[23:28] <gundam20> can someone help me load up my wireless drivers for athro9k
[23:28] <randal> How do i restart x system
[23:28] <Doopoo_> and as usual no one here knows
[23:28] <ikonia> Doopoo_: then why ask
[23:28] <Eremite> ikonia, yes meine fuhrer
[23:29] <gundam20> or point me in the right direction of how to install
[23:29] <ikonia> Doopoo_: you ask, wait 11 seconds then complain - don't ask if you don't like the support in here, or give someone a chance to respond
[23:29] <stoic75> can anyone help me figure out why MOC won't work?
[23:29] <jackhigh> ezfox: http://pastebin.com/m940df28
[23:29] <Doopoo_> yeah, ill just wait for my question to get lost in all this text
[23:29] <Doopoo_> :[
[23:30] <ikonia> Doopoo_: feel free to repeat it,
[23:30] <Doopoo_> and then get yelled at for repeating
[23:30] <Doopoo_> ah cool
[23:30] <Doopoo_> i got yelled at last time
[23:30] <randal> Can anyone please tell me the code to restart the x system
[23:30] <ikonia> Doopoo_: the bottom line is when you use the package manager it puts files in multiple locations, so it's not a single place normally, or a single file to download
[23:30] <jackhigh> ezfox: its the Bus 005 Device 011: ID 0458:0046 KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems)
[23:30] <ikonia> !nozap > randal
[23:30] <Doopoo_> so how do i find the directory i want? jump uo and down and bark like a duck?
[23:31] <urlwallace> I have googled this and found no answer. Im running ubuntu 9.1.0 64 bit . on boot nothing happens bit blinking cursor. in "recovery" mode the boot stops at "loading favorite drivers and then stops.. I have had install for a month np and kept it updated.  is there a way to repair without re-install.? thanks
 Krambiorix: if it's an install - you can do t
[23:31] <randal> ikonia,  !nozap what is that?
[23:31] <ikonia> Doopoo_: you can start by quiting with the silly comments, and just talk to peple normally
[23:31] <ikonia> Doopoo_: could you give me an example of what you're trying to download with the package manager
[23:31] <jschall> what's the best DLNA media server to run on linux?
[23:31] <arand> Doopoo_: You are contributing to said text ;| "dpkg -L packagename" will tell you all the files associated with a package, however not the config files in your home directory or other things that are created after the install itself.
[23:31] <Doopoo_> ikonia: if you could answer me i'd have an answer already, clearly no one here uses gvba
[23:31] <XSet> I need to know the location of the sessions or gnome start-up file, from the terminal. when booting up past the ubuntu splash screen, the screen blanks with the timer, I do hear the gnome startup sound but nothing seems to advance forward, apart from the timer icon?
[23:31] <Doopoo_> so, my venture to freenode is pointless, once again
[23:31] <Doopoo_> later
[23:32] <XSet> I am trying to fix this computer over seas.. using ssh
[23:32] <gundam20> is there an athro9k room?
[23:32] <ikonia> Doopoo_: I'm asnwering you
[23:32] <stoic75> hi folks....I've installed Music on Console from the synaptic but can't seem to find it or use it....any advice...thank you
[23:32] <randal> ikonia,  he left lol could you help me
[23:32] <ikonia> !nozap
[23:32] <roboCode> heeey all
[23:33] <ikonia> !dontzap
[23:33] <roboCode> good to have ubuntu back after it decided to update my graphics driver to a non-working one
[23:33] <ikonia> randal: there you go
[23:33] <randal> ikonia,  whats nozap?
[23:33] <ikonia> randal: read what ubottu said
[23:33] <ikonia> !dontzap > randal
[23:34] <randal> ikonia, that was the first time it poped up
[23:34] <ikonia> randal: that's fine
[23:34] <richar> hola
[23:34] <ezfox> jackhigh: from what i find in the web it should work out of the box. can you please replug the stick, wait 30seconds and post the output of "dmesg" please ?
[23:34] <gundam20> testing anyone see me
[23:34] <arand> randal: you can normally use alt+sysreq+k to restart gdm/X without having to enable dontzap..
[23:35] <arand> !hi | gundam20
[23:35] <jackhigh> ezfox: sure 1 sec
[23:35] <richar> q tal
[23:35] <SliderMan> hi, i need help installing grub
[23:35] <richar> hola
[23:35] <richar> hola
[23:36] <X-Seti> I need to know the location of the sessions or gnome start-up file, from the terminal. when booting up past the ubuntu splash screen, the screen blanks with the timer, I do hear the gnome startup sound but nothing seems to advance forward, apart from the timer icon?
[23:36] <X-Seti> I am trying to fix this computer over seas.. using ssh
[23:36] <rjb> hi i have ubuntu 9.10 installed java but when i try to run an application /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/java: not found
[23:36] <arand> ikonia: I think ubottu should mention alt+sysrq+k..
[23:36] <ikonia> X-Seti: create a new user so the environment is clean
[23:37] <gundam20> problems with athro9k any care to take a stab at it
[23:37] <ikonia> arand: noted
[23:37] <X-Seti> thats an idea
[23:37] <jackhigh> ezfox: http://pastebin.com/m96bf2d3
[23:38] <jackhigh> ezfox: just so i dont confuze the issue i accdently unplugged my corded mouse thier too
[23:38] <ezfox> jackhigh: i see
[23:39] <ezfox> put as you can see, the device is correctly found and it gets a device
[23:39] <jackhigh> ezfox: those lines mean nothing to me :) want me to do it again with the corded mouse removed ?
[23:40] <ezfox> you should connect only the wireless mouse and restart X (logout/login)
[23:40] <jackhigh> ok ill try that brb
[23:40] <jackhigh> thanks
[23:41] <ezfox> and you need to connect the mouse to the stick, you surely know ?
[23:41] <militia> hey
[23:41] <militia> anyone good with lmms
[23:42] <militia> ?
[23:42] <rjb> i have this error /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/java: not found and update-alternatives returns /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[23:42] <rjb> what can i do?
[23:43] <ezfox> jackhigh: does it work now ?
[23:43] <jackhigh> no
[23:43] <ezfox> did you connect the mouse to the stick ?
[23:44] <jackhigh> would a dpkg reconfigure  help ?
[23:44] <ezfox> normally you need to press a button on the bottom of the mouse
[23:44] <jackhigh> yea
[23:44] <ezfox> ok
[23:44] <jackhigh> i did that
[23:44] <ezfox> then i'm out of ideas :)
[23:44] <urlwallace> I have googled this and found no answer. Im running ubuntu 9.1.0 64 bit . on boot nothing happens bit blinking cursor. in "recovery" mode the boot stops at "loading favorite drivers and then stops.. I have had install for a month np and kept it updated.  is there a way to repair without re-install.? thanks
 Krambiorix: if it's an install - you can do t
[23:44] <jackhigh> yea thanks for trying
[23:44] <melwtech35> having issues getting a usb Modem to work via virtual box on ubuntu 9.10, seems that virtualbox cannot create a usb device proxy? anyone? im in vboxusers and ive got usb in fstab
[23:45] <jackhigh> i think ill give it to the mother in law she runs windows
[23:45] <ezfox> jackhigh: but the device is properly recognized
[23:45] <iceroot> melwtech35: non-free version?
[23:45] <iceroot> melwtech35: also tried #vbox?
[23:45] <jackhigh> ezfox: thats strange isnt it
[23:46] <LobsterJohnson> So anybody willing to help someone tech savvy enough to give lingo, not smart enough Google the right terms?
[23:46] <r4v5> Howdy. Just installed a fresh 9.10 and emacs23, but i can't seem to make it read my .emacs on startup.  Specifically, all the appearance options seem to be getting ignored until i open my .emacs and eval-buffer.
[23:46] <melwtech35> iceroot, sorry havent tried vbox and its the non ose version
[23:46] <jackhigh> ezfox:  do gpu drivers have anything to do with pointing devices ?
[23:46] <roboCode> anyone know how to create a thread within a thread in java ??
[23:47] <iceroot> roboCode: #java
[23:47] <ezfox> jackhigh: no
[23:47] <roboCode> iceroot, apparently I need to be identified to go in there lol
[23:47] <Dantonic> !java
[23:47] <Spaceman> does anyone know what is happening with xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[23:47] <iceroot> roboCode: then do it, this is not the right place for java
[23:47] <roboCode> Spaceman, whats ur os doing ??
[23:47] <jackhigh> ezfox: just asking cos i recenty installed the ati ones and had to reconfigure x and it mentioned mouses
[23:48] <Spaceman> have to run in FAILSAFE Gnome because of crash; ever since 9.10 came out
[23:48] <ezfox> jackhigh: oh, reconfigure X could help
[23:48] <roboCode> Spaceman, I am running ATI graphics card and it installed drivers that made it crash on bootup
[23:48] <ezfox> jackhigh: i dont use any xorg.conf file, so new devices will be detected while X starts
[23:49] <roboCode> Spaceman, have you tried deleting the config file to reset it ?
[23:49] <Spaceman> yes
[23:49] <ezfox> jackhigh: but if you created a config file it also has entrys in it for keyboard and mouse
[23:49] <roboCode> Spaceman, then I am all out of ideas :)
[23:49] <ezfox> jackhigh: so you need to reconfigure for new devices
[23:49] <jackhigh> aticonfig makes the xorg.conf file
[23:49] <Spaceman> thanks anyway
[23:49] <Shazbutts> oh hi #ubuntuy
[23:49] <Shazbutts> without the 'y'
[23:49] <jackhigh> let me look
[23:50] <LobsterJohnson> Does anybody know where I can find information on the issue of... I recently installed some Nvidia 6 Series driver on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala, and now when I try to run a Gnome Session or Fail-Safe Gnome session, it will go to a black screen show the monitor error of incorrect input device?
[23:50] <Shazbutts> I'm repartitioning my hdd and installing ubuntu, I'm making 2 different partitions one for / and one for /home
[23:50] <Shazbutts> for the second one /home, should I make it logical or primary?
[23:50] <g0tcha> hey guys, after running "mdadm -Cv /dev/md4 -l0 -n2 -c64 /dev/sdb4 /dev/sdc4" and then mount /dev/md4 to a dir, how can i unmount it and remove it?
[23:50] <Shazbutts> I was thinkin' primary, but I don't know
[23:50] <Shazbutts> that's why I'm here
[23:51] <Shazbutts> g0tcha, umount
[23:51] <jiohdi> LobsterJohnson: I have re-installed about ten times in 4-6 months... nothing to it :)
[23:51] <Shazbutts> jiohdi, lol
[23:51] <jackhigh> ezfox: i have no sections for any mouses is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the right command ?
[23:51] <ezfox> jackhigh: i would try to rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X - this way you get a dynamic configuration
[23:51] <Shazbutts> I was like that when I first used linux...
[23:51] <Shazbutts> well actually
[23:51] <danbhfive> Shazbutts: logical partitions is just if you want more than 4 partitions
[23:51] <g0tcha> Shazbutts, and after i umount, do i just pull out the RAID harddisks no problem?
[23:52] <Shazbutts> g0tcha, I would turn off the computer before you tear out a drive...
[23:52] <danbhfive> LobsterJohnson: have you tried uninstalling the nvidia driver?
[23:52] <jiohdi> Shazbutts: as long as you got flash drives to back up the important stuff, re-installs are nothing :)
[23:52] <ezfox> jackhigh: but its possible that X wont come up so you need then to reverse it to the original name in the console
[23:52] <Shazbutts> jiohdi, I use my flash drive to install :o
[23:52] <Shazbutts> also danbhfive thanks
[23:52] <LobsterJohnson> @danbhfive: haha nope, I don't know how. I
[23:52] <g0tcha> Shazbutts, yeah ofcourse.. i mean after turning it off.. so i dont have to do anything to "reverse" this mdadm -Cv /dev/md4 -l0 -n2 -c64 /dev/sdb4 /dev/sdc4 ?
[23:52] <jiohdi> Shazbutts: I have a usb cd/dvd drive :)
[23:52] <g0tcha> after i unmount them
[23:52] <jackhigh> i see brb ill try
[23:53] <peppy> ciao a tutti
[23:53] <danbhfive> LobsterJohnson: are you getting a terminal?  it is something like sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[23:53] <samed> hi
[23:53] <LobsterJohnson> Yeah
[23:53] <peppy> !addon
[23:53] <LobsterJohnson> I'm getting a terminal session going
[23:53] <peppy> !list
[23:53] <danbhfive> LobsterJohnson: I actually forget.    Good times, jumping into this is fun lol
[23:54] <samed> me burn harddisk
[23:54] <samed> aq
[23:54] <RandomizeR> hey everyone
[23:55] <jiohdi> LobsterJohnson: after a few times you lose the fear of the re-install :) I have installed about 5 different linux versions :)
[23:55] <LobsterJohnson> @jiohdi: Should I reinstall, then try to reinstall the same drivers?
[23:56] <jiohdi> LobsterJohnson: and cross your fingers :)
[23:56] <sagaci> daftykins: 20.8 gb and an hour, finally finished, do i need to do anything special to close the connection or can i just close nautilus
[23:56] <LobsterJohnson> Haha
[23:56] <daftykins> sagaci: just close nautilus ja and shutdown cleanly
[23:56] <ezfox> jackhigh: for creating a new xorg.conf see this link: http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-configure-Xorg-in-Ubuntu
[23:57] <jackhigh> ezfox: thanks
[23:57] <sagaci> daftykins: ok, bye
[23:57] <LobsterJohnson> I'm sure I missed something, stayed up too late dinking around. When the glaring power light kept me up at night, I just ended up shutting off the compute and coming home with no memory of the last thing I did.
[23:57] <jiohdi> LobsterJohnson: I have currently this computer with UNR {net top} my laptop with ubuntu 9.10 my office comp with debian and my ancient computer with puppy... ditched mint because of freeze ups
[23:57] <melwtech35> iceroot i don't think its a VirtualBox issue as much as a permissions issue with ubuntu
[23:57] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:57] <LobsterJohnson> @jiohdi: Hopefully I can get it back up
[23:58] <jiohdi> LobsterJohnson: I find its just getting the right linux for the right machine
[23:58] <jiohdi> different machines respond better to different distros
[23:58] <jiohdi> one size does not fit all (^_^)
[23:58] <Shazbutts> jiohdi, definitely
[23:58] <ezfox> jackhigh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should also work, but on my system it does nothing :)
[23:59] <adalal> how do i set a search domain on bind9?
[23:59] <jackhigh> ezfox: it does nothing on mine either
[23:59] <LobsterJohnson> Ok, well I'll have to feel it out then, I got a couple of distro's at my disposal.
[23:59] <jiohdi> as long as you got flashdrives or cd burners... many linux versions can be tried as they are all free :)
[23:59] <luist> how do i list partitions?
[23:59] <magnus> need some serius help reselution and video card.plx help
[23:59] <Shazbutts> OMG I'M INSTALLING
[23:59] <Shazbutts> I hope this doesn't mess up mah Windows 7 install


[07:15] <yumeyao> Hi I'm trying to setup a local instance of launchpad. I know that's a big topic and I tried searching but can't find a complete walkthrough. However, I just want to point out that "Build and run Launchpad" doc is kind of out-dated, which I tried following, but failed. Eventually I figured out the error:
[07:15] <yumeyao> by running 'rocketfuel-setup' without
[07:17] <yumeyao> by running 'rocketfuel-setup' without --no-workspace, it will not prepare for 'download-cache' directory as documented inside the file it self:
[07:17] <yumeyao> '$ git clone --depth=1 lp:lp-source-dependencies download-cache'
[07:18] <yumeyao> so I tried running that command manually and moved on, and eventually got a working testing instance of launchpad.
[07:18] <yumeyao> So I think this should be mentioned in the doc as well.
[07:20] <yumeyao> or maybe it should be handled by the script if the user option is without '--no-workspace'
[07:22] <jugmac00> yumeyao: Do you refer to https://launchpad.readthedocs.io/en/latest/how-to/running.html ?
[07:23] <yumeyao> Yes, I'm talking about that docoment
[07:24] <yumeyao> https://dev.launchpad.net/  ->  "Build and run Launchpad"  -> leads me there
[07:24] <jugmac00> RIght - we are in midst of moving our documentation. It will take a while, though.
[07:24] <jugmac00> Would you be so kind and create an issue at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad ?
[07:25] <jugmac00> I think this should not be a manual step, but automated.
[07:25] <yumeyao> sure
[07:25] <yumeyao> I just want to confirm if I was missing something first
[07:26] <jugmac00> I haven't created a manual instance for more than a year, so I cannot recall all the exact steps, but imho it should be at least partially automated, and if not, then it needs to be documented carefully.
[07:29] <yumeyao> I see, that just happens.
[07:49] <yumeyao> btw, the test instance has some ancient data initialized, doesn't come with a user authentication system, and have all the domains set as 'xxxxxx.test'.
[07:49] <yumeyao> If I want to convert the test instance to an even former instance for production, is there any fast commands or cheatsheets to deploy a clean instance with selected domain names, and integrate with some user authentication system?
[15:40] <jugmac00> yumeyao: I do not think so, as for production we use a different way for deployment. The outlined way is just for development (afaik).
[15:46] <cjwatson> For better or worse, making it easy for people to deploy their own production instances was explicitly a non-goal when Launchpad was open-sourced.
[15:47] <cjwatson> We won't stop folks from trying, but the priority was always to make it easy to collaborate on the code for launchpad.net instead.


[15:29] <Hendrik_> Hello! i flashed my nexus 4 but i cant connect to the internet...my apn is correct (vodafone de) but if i opem the browser im redirected to web.vodafone.com....Maybe its a problem with the localization....can somebody help me?
[15:33] <AskUbuntu> How to install ubuntu mobile os in iphone? | http://askubuntu.com/q/505913
[15:34] <Hendrik_> Can somebody help me?
[16:35] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu Touch Vodafone DE 3G Connection | http://askubuntu.com/q/505937
[21:54] <cwayne1> jdstrand: you around by any chance? :)
[23:00] <winb> The project has come a long way since I last tried it. Good work


[15:00] <slyon> o/
[15:00] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <juliank> O/
[15:01] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 16 15:01:55 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:01] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:02] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:02] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)
[15:02] <bdmurray> tdaitx bdmurray waveform doko mwhudson juliank vorlon slyon infinity xnox rbalint sil2100
[15:02] <sil2100> WON
[15:02] <bdmurray> tdaitx:
[15:02] <sil2100> \o/
[15:02] <tdaitx> uh oh, I don't have it ready T_T
[15:03] <tdaitx> sil2100: so I will go last instead =P
[15:03] <bdmurray> SRU verified LP: #1884148
[15:03] <bdmurray> investigation into update-motd autopkgtest failure on Focal (it strangely passed for Groovy)
[15:03] <bdmurray> updated the fix for LP: #1873545 not to use $EUID as #! is /bin/sh
[15:03] <bdmurray> review / testing of ~slyon/ubuntu-release-upgrader:slyon/focal-python2-fix
[15:03] <bdmurray> reported autopkgtest bug LP: #1887183
[15:03] <bdmurray> uploaded u-r-u for the 18.04.5 point release
[15:03] <bdmurray> +1 maintenance
[15:03] <bdmurray> short week with some holidays
[15:03] <bdmurray> waveform:
[15:03] <waveform> * Fixed issue in pending raspberrypi-userland (inclusion of EGL/GL headers clashing with libegl-dev) (LP: #1883111)
[15:03] <waveform> * Addressed review of rpi-eeprom (LP: #1884748)
[15:03] <waveform> * Prepared split linux-firmware-raspi2 using multi-upstream tarball style (LP: #1886581)
[15:03] <waveform> * Bumped wifi firmware in linux-firmware-raspi2 to latest version
[15:03] <waveform> * Worked on removal of u-boot from classic (postinst transition in flash-kernel and adjustment of custom "pi" method in flash-kernel to avoid u-boot tools)
[15:03] <waveform> (done)
[15:04] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:04] <bdmurray> how about juliank!
[15:05] <juliank> Not sure it's complete, but here we go:
[15:05] <juliank> jul 09:
[15:05] <juliank> * short week, off sick mon & tue
[15:05] <juliank> * apt 2.1.7
[15:05] <juliank> * fixed make-dfsg on s390x by disabling use of posix_spawn, still needs investigating whether posix_spawn is broken on s390x or the make code uses it in a way that only fails on s390x (and only in flatpak-builder tests)
[15:05] <juliank> * retry regressions
[15:05] <juliank> jul 16:
[15:05] <juliank> * initial work of freeing apt of masters, and slaves
[15:05] <juliank> * cleaned up apt-key net-update spec
[15:05] <juliank> * dug around in os-prober and snapshots
[15:05] <juliank> * private stuff fba872e3c2d435b7a69acbb618fb888d0437d7b471758b2bb9e74de341b070fe
[15:05] <juliank> * opened bugs for google chrome and keybase to stop using apt-key add, and use trusted.gpg.d
[15:05] <juliank> * reviewed rpi eeprom package thingy for waveform
[15:05] <juliank> (done)
[15:06] <bdmurray> vorlon:
[15:06] <vorlon>  * haskell transition work (mostly deleting broken packages)
[15:06] <vorlon>   * pandoc on riscv64 takes foreeeeever
[15:06] <vorlon>  * reviewing current net-apt key-update spec
[15:06] <vorlon>  * working with server team on some changes to the motd-news implementation
[15:06] <vorlon>  * partner meetings
[15:06] <vorlon>  * discussions around an embargoed issue
[15:06] <vorlon> (done)
[15:06] <bdmurray> slyon:
[15:06] <slyon> - Fixed python-mkdocs & streamlink for fonts-font-awesome migration
[15:06] <slyon>   * sponsored by Dimiri & merged in Debian Salsa
[15:06] <slyon> - Fixed cider for fonts-font-awesome migration
[15:06] <slyon>   * sponsoed via Debian NMU by Dimitri
[15:06] <slyon> - Discovered XSBC- field bug in dh-make-perl, fixed upstream
[15:06] <slyon>   * Fix released, bug #1886461
[15:06] <slyon> - Debugged 20.04 upgrade, if legacy python[-minimal] installed
[15:06] <slyon>   * Updated Focal release notes about 'python-is-python2'
[15:06] <slyon>   * MP awaiting review, bug #1875523
[15:06] <slyon> - SRU verification for apport snap handling
[15:06] <slyon>   * Fix released, bug #1861082
[15:06] <slyon> - Improved IWD vs WPA Supplicant evaluation document
[15:06] <slyon> - Collected netplan.io community engagement metrics
[15:06] <slyon> [15:07] <slyon> - Fixed non-OVS bonds in OVS netplan setup, with James & Lukasz
[15:07] <slyon> - Improve OVS integration tests
[15:07] <slyon> - Review Lukasz' implicit OVS fake VLAN bridges PR#151
[15:07] <slyon> - Checked upstream NM's refusal of our netplan plugin
[15:07] <slyon>   * considering different solutions, like a netplan-nm-bridge daemon
[15:07] <slyon>   * needs team discussion
[15:07] <slyon> - Reviewed Lukasz' SR-IOV first boot PR #141
[15:07] <slyon> - Prepared OVS interface cleanup PR #153
[15:07] <slyon>   * In review
[15:07] <slyon> - Started working on Wireguard PR #113
[15:07] <slyon> (done)
[15:07] <bdmurray> xnox:
[15:08] <xnox> * mid-cycle product sprint + working on all the .1 release things & proposed-migration. Done.
[15:08] <bdmurray> rbalint:
[15:08] <rbalint> * +1 maintenance
[15:08] <rbalint> * uploads via Debian: wireshark 3.2.5-1, libevent 2.1.12-stable-1
[15:08] <rbalint> * merges: systemd as 245.6-2ubuntu1, then as 245.6-3ubuntu1 with additional fixes, mtd-utils
[15:08] <rbalint> * partner work
[15:08] <rbalint> * +1 maintenance (ongoing)
[15:08] <rbalint> (done)
[15:08] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[15:09] <sil2100> - Shorter week, had half-day on Friday, status only from this week
[15:09] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:09] <sil2100> - Kernel SRUs
[15:09] <sil2100> - +1 maintenance on Monday/Tuesday-ish
[15:09] <sil2100>   * Got slightly side-tracked fixing britney in bileto
[15:09] <sil2100> - Phasing out new core18 into stable
[15:09] <sil2100> - 20.04.1 and 18.04.5 point-release preparation
[15:09] <sil2100>   * Prepared base-files
[15:09] <sil2100>   * Pushed updated language-packs (base for focal, updates for bionic)
[15:09] <sil2100>   * Coordination with various teams
[15:09] <sil2100>   * General preparation per the checklists
[15:09] <sil2100> - netplan:
[15:09] <sil2100>   * Looking into the OVS config clean-up PR from Lukas
[15:09] <sil2100>   * Started looking at SR-IOV improvement PR review comments
[15:09] <sil2100>   * NM-plugin discussions
[15:09] <sil2100> - Pushed appliance-build livecd-rootfs changes to bionic Unapproved
[15:09] <sil2100> - Asked for upload of the new lxd appliance model assertion to the store
[15:09] <sil2100> - Various meetings
[15:09] <sil2100> (done)
[15:09] <tdaitx> * improved jck snap documentation
[15:09] <tdaitx> * working on regression detection for the jck testsuite in jenkins
[15:09] <tdaitx>   - grabbing/copying artifacts in jenkins
[15:09] <tdaitx> * openjdk-11 and openjdk-8 security updates
[15:09] <tdaitx>   - packaged openjdk-11, build failure on bionic, investigating
[15:09] <doko> - more CET investigations
[15:09] <doko> - GCC 10.2 release candidate
[15:09] <doko> - binutils 2.35 snapshots
[15:09] <doko> - Python 3.9 beta4
[15:09] <doko> - two MIRs, NEW processing
[15:09] <tdaitx>   - packaging openjdk-8
[15:09] <doko> - get lintian again installable on i386
[15:09] <tdaitx> * fixed jtreg regression
[15:09] <doko> - started libgc and mpfr4 transitions
[15:09] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:09] <doko> - two +1 days
[15:09] <doko> (done)
[15:10] <bdmurray> any questions on status?
[15:10] <sil2100> None here!
[15:10] <bdmurray> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:11] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:11] <bdmurray> bug 1886314 - is this for desktop or us?
[15:12] <bdmurray> vorlon: ?
[15:12] <vorlon> uh
[15:13] <vorlon> I would want the kernel team to weigh in on this
[15:13] <vorlon> before we install a package that changes the default oom handling
[15:13] <bdmurray> okay
[15:14] <juliank> huh, why does it need a userspace sercice?
[15:14] <vorlon> yeah exactly
[15:15] <bdmurray> So is anybody interested in this enough to drive it?
[15:15] <juliank> not really
[15:15] <xnox> nope
[15:15] <xnox> bdmurray:  not fixing, possibly punt to like cking maybe
[15:15] <xnox> it sounds interesting but also dubious
[15:15] <bdmurray> ack
[15:15] <bdmurray> bug 1887098
[15:17] <doko> is there a pip2?
[15:17] <bdmurray> this bug actually has a duplicate
[15:18] <xnox> doko:  we have python2 pip and python3 pip3, we don't have pip2
[15:18] <doko> hmm, is python2 based pip really available in focal?
[15:18] <xnox> let me check.
[15:18] <doko> afaicr, that was only re-added later in unstable after the focal release.
[15:18] <waveform> doesn't appear to be (at least there's no python-pip or python2-pip?)
[15:19] <juliank> $ dpkg -S bin/pip
[15:19] <juliank> python3-pip: /usr/bin/pip3
[15:19] <juliank> python3-pip: /usr/bin/pip
[15:19] <juliank> in groovy
[15:19] <doko> probably should be packported
[15:19] <doko> if we want to have a python2 based pip like debian will ship with bullseye
[15:20] <doko> but I'm -1 on pip-is-*
[15:21] <xnox> doko:  the request is for existing "python-is-python3" to ship pip -> pip3 symlink, like it does for `python` `python-config` etc.
[15:21] <juliank> python-is-python3 should add pip->pip3 symlink
[15:21] <xnox> not a new package
[15:21] <juliank> however
[15:21] <waveform> and presumably then python-is-python2 should do likewise for pip?
[15:21] <doko> juliank: no way, please don't fuck around with extra dependencies
[15:21] <xnox> doko:  no extra dependencies
[15:21] <xnox> dangling symlink
[15:21] <juliank> groovy ships it in python3-pip
[15:21] <doko> so dangling symlink?
[15:22] <xnox> note that in groovy /bin/pip is python3 shebang
[15:22] <juliank> if we add dangling symlink to python-is-python3, we also need replaces/breaks in python3-pip in groovy
[15:22] <slyon> but there is no python2 pip... so python-is-python2 -> pip does not work. Futhermore, there would be file conflicts if python2 pip is re-introduced
[15:23] <waveform> right
[15:27] <xnox> slyon:  we will not do that in the python-is-python2 package
[15:27] <xnox> so /bin/pip will be a dangling symlink in python-is-python3 package only
[15:28] <xnox> we can make it a file trigger
[15:28] <bdmurray> I think this warrants some further discussion via email with a clear design.
[15:28] <xnox> ok
[15:28] <xnox> to be continued
[15:29] <bdmurray> xnox: will you draft a plan?
[15:29] <xnox> ok
[15:29] <bdmurray> bug 1878225 already has a card so skipping
[15:29] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:30] <bdmurray> bug 1871641 the desktop team is looking for help from "a systemd expert"
[15:31] <rbalint> i guess that's a +1 for me :-)
[15:31] <bdmurray> could you reach out to daniel and see what he needs?
[15:32] <rbalint> sure, will do so
[15:32] <vorlon> NB he's probably not very timezone-compatible
[15:33] <rbalint> bdmurray, should i card it for myself instead for the team?
[15:33] <bdmurray> rbalint: that sounds good to me
[15:34] <bdmurray> are we waiting for hardware for bug 1883229?
[15:34] <rbalint> done
[15:37] <bdmurray> alright, that's that for new bugs
[15:37] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:37] <bdmurray> vorlon:
[15:38] <vorlon> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:38] <vorlon> 41 packages needing attention, that doesn't sound good
[15:38] <vorlon> vim is still mine
[15:38] <juliank> well, build-essential triggered quite a few I suppose
[15:38] <bdmurray> lintian is with me
[15:39] <vorlon> I don't see why it should be
[15:39] <vorlon> bdmurray: ok thanks
[15:39] <vorlon> python3.8 vs sqlite
[15:39] <waveform> libio-async-perl is still mine
[15:39] <rbalint> i'm fixing systemd
[15:40] <vorlon> sil2100: are you still on the python3.8 vs sqlite regression?
[15:40] <vorlon> (and sqlite3 generally)
[15:41] <sil2100> vorlon: yes, sorry, still on it...
[15:41] <vorlon> ok
[15:41] <vorlon> libio-async-perl is just waiting on its dep which is part of the linitan stuff
[15:41] <vorlon> rbalint mentioned being on systemd
[15:41] <vorlon> juliank: xz-utils?
[15:41] <juliank> yeah sounds fine
[15:42] <vorlon> juliank: I think I tried to assign this to you last time but I'm not sure you saw
[15:43] <vorlon> casper blocking qemu, what's that about
[15:43] <vorlon> looks like we should leave this with the server team
[15:44] <vorlon> curl is blocked on nettle, which is the ghc transition
[15:44] <vorlon> freetds, gnutls28, libarchive same
[15:44] <juliank> vorlon: I see my mention in the backlog, but I'm not sure I actively noticed
[15:45] <vorlon> open-iscsi also tied to qemu, so skipping
[15:45] <vorlon> rtmpdump, nettle again; then systemd and ubuntu-image for qemu again
[15:45] <vorlon> libzstd
[15:45] <slyon> I can look into libzstd vs badger, as I have been dealing with badger before
[15:45] <vorlon> slyon: thanks
[15:45] <slyon> (at least for the 64bit failure, 32bit problems need upstream fixing it)
[15:46] <vorlon> build-essential, I've actually been picking at these already this morning, strangely there are some i386 autopkgtest false-positives that were never seen before
[15:46] <vorlon> so I'll follow through on that one
[15:46] <xnox> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#build-essential
[15:47] <vorlon> glib2.0, might just need some autopkgtest retriggers.  xnox can you take?
[15:48] <xnox> vorlon:  seb128 was doing some today, and some of them depend on the qemu fix previously mentioned.
[15:48] <xnox> vorlon:  but sure, can try to help poking it.
[15:48] <vorlon> well the qemu in release pocket should be ok surely
[15:48] <vorlon> python-tz needs oops to drop python2 support, should be easy
[15:49] <vorlon> waveform: ^^ can you take?
[15:49] <waveform> vorlon, will do
[15:49] <xnox> s390-tools waiting on AA new to accepted signing
[15:49] <vorlon> ok I'll look at that shortly
[15:49] <vorlon> dosfstools regressing livecd-rootfs, doesn't sound good
[15:50] <vorlon> tdaitx: ^^ can you look at this?
[15:50] <tdaitx> vorlon: ack
[15:50] <vorlon> rbalint: is systemd/amd64 regressing for kbd related to your ongoing work?
[15:50] <xnox> tdaitx:  maybe livecd-rootfs broken by itself? " python3-secretstorage : Depends: python3-jeepney but it is not installable"
[15:50] <xnox> could be just components missmatches
[15:50] <vorlon> that's a -proposed-only issue
[15:51] <vorlon> python3-jeepney is (was?) an MIR
[15:51] <rbalint> vorlon, i take kbd it then i'll see
[15:51] <vorlon> ok
[15:51] <vorlon> bdmurray: can you take dnspython vs python-idna?
[15:52] <vorlon> libsereal-decoder-perl, rather looks like a Debian issue, we might just ignore this for now and see if something better comes in via sync in the next week
[15:52] <vorlon> and libevent vs mysql-8.0
[15:52] <vorlon> who wants this last one
[15:52] <rbalint> vorlon, it is mysql
[15:53] <xnox> server team!
[15:53] <bdmurray> vorlon: okay
[15:53] <vorlon> rbalint: meaning?
[15:53] <rbalint> vorlon, i take it, it regressed in release
[15:53] <rbalint> (mysql regressed)
[15:54] <xnox> Failing test(s): main.ssl_crl main.ssl_crl_crlpath main.ssl_crl_clients_valid
[15:54] <vorlon> rbalint: ok, you'll follow through with hint mp?
[15:54] <xnox> sounds like dates / times / timing valid/from valid/until
[15:54] <rbalint> vorlon, yes
[15:54] <vorlon> thanks
[15:54] <vorlon> and that's done
[15:54] <vorlon> bdmurray:
[15:54] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[15:55] <doko> just a heads up, GCC 10.2 will be released next, and once that's built the defaults change will happen
[15:55] <doko> next week even
[15:56] <juliank> nice
[15:56] <bdmurray> okay, thanks for the notification
[15:56] <xnox> doko:  horay!
[15:56] <vorlon> doko: can you communicate this to ubuntu-devel also?
[15:56] <doko> vorlon: no, it's in the release schedule ;o
[15:57] <juliank> more notifications don't hurt!
[15:58] <bdmurray> thanks everyone
[15:58] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[15:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 15:58:37 2020 UTC.
[15:58] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-07-16-15.01.moin.txt
[15:59] <sil2100> o/
[15:59] <juliank> o/
[15:59] <rbalint> o/
[15:59] <slyon> o/
[16:11] <cpaelzer> vorlon: xnox: open-iscsi, casper, ubuntu-image, systemd fails all are https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bug/1887763
[16:13] <cpaelzer> only the qemu in groovy-proposed is affected and I'm engaged with upstream already (see links in the bug)
[16:13] <cpaelzer> if becoming urgent we can have an interim fix and later on pick what upstream ends up with
[16:14] <vorlon> cpaelzer: ack, thanks
[16:14] <vorlon> not urgent for us, just needed to understand whether there was work for Foundations to do
[16:15] <cpaelzer> ok, thanks
[16:15] <cpaelzer> for now leave it with me (in sync to what you said in the meeting)


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