[00:00] <kunji> ChaiTRex: Wait, really?
[00:01] <ChaiTRex> kunji: Yeah, I've seen several people think that all .04s are LTS.
[00:01] <kunji> ChaiTRex: Sorry, I read that as you agreeing with him.
[00:01] <ChaiTRex> kunji: Oh, no :)
[00:01] <Viking667> lol. And I've used Ubuntu since 5.04... I think only 4.10 preceded that.
[00:01] <klystron> t6400 dual core intel 42 bit
[00:01] <tgm4883> !details | latino31
[00:01] <klystron> 32 bit
[00:02] <tgm4883> klystron: uh, that's a 64-bit proc
[00:02] <Viking667> And that's got 2Gb of memory, correct?
[00:02] <ChaiTRex> klystron: In that case, get the ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso from http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[00:02] <klystron> its a 32 bit
[00:03] <tgm4883> klystron: The T6400? Yea you're probably right. What would these guys know about that processor https://ark.intel.com/products/40479/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T6400-2M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[00:03] <Viking667> ha. I was just looking at that link.
[00:03] <nacc> klystron: how are you determining it is 32bit?
[00:03] <hashwagon> Hey guys, Ubuntu Server 16.04 doesn't come with any kind of firewall enabled by default right?
[00:03] <ChaiTRex> klystron: Intel disagrees at https://ark.intel.com/products/40479/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T6400-2M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB (search for "Instruction set").
[00:03] <ChaiTRex> hashwagon: Right.
[00:04] <Viking667> klystron: for example, here's mine:  Model name:            Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8400  @ 2.66GHz
[00:04] <latino31> ubottu, orinal error http://anonypaste.com/da4919
[00:04] <ChaiTRex> klystron: If you're set on 32-bit, you can still use 16.04 32-bit. Your processor can handle that, too.
[00:04] <ChaiTRex> klystron: You can also use 64-bit if you want, though.
[00:04] <Viking667> That is most certainly 64-bit. I suspect that your CPU can actually do some 64-bit stuff, though it's going to be a rough ride.
[00:05] <latino31> tgm4883, im not in the mood for bot games
[00:05] <latino31> what do you want to know
[00:05] <latino31> im talking to some dumb bot because you can ask what you want to ask
[00:06] <bazhang> latino31, be civil here
[00:06] <klystron> well quite simple when I tried to install a 64 bit version it failed and the lscpu returns 32 bit
[00:06] <tgm4883> latino31: you'll catch more flys with honey than vinegar. I'm in no mood for pulling teeth. You can either state the issue you're having, the hardware you have and the version of ubuntu you're using and let the nice people here help you, or you can take a long walk off a short pier. Either way, I'm done
[00:07] <nacc> klystron: it only says 32-bit?
[00:07] <Tin_man> it's only my opinion but some have been over using the bot, where you should just explain yourself or say nothing at all.  I've seen channels that get bot crazy..
[00:07] <klystron> yes
[00:07] <orkan> i remember having a laptop some 10 years ago that was 64bit "ready" but wasn't actually a 64bit processor
[00:07] <kunji> latino31: Chill, to troubleshoot sound you should probably gather up the logs the next time the issue occurs, maybe also output from dmesg and hardware details.  I would just put them in a bug report.
[00:07] <nacc> klystron: ok, well, as you've been told now, you caninstall 16.04 32-bit
[00:07] <ChaiTRex> klystron: If it fails, no problem, just get the 32-bit.
[00:07] <latino31> tgm4883, i told you the error im getting i told you that im using 17.04...i told that we narrowed down the issue to the sound card being busy sometimes...i just posted a link with the error...what exactly you feel like you need to k now
[00:08] <latino31> kunji, the error log was already posted
[00:08] <lebone> for me it's the same thing
[00:08] <klystron> so what is going to happen with the droping of unity
[00:08] <orkan> everyone get's Gnome
[00:08] <nacc> klystron: please, stick to support topics here
[00:08] <klystron> in respect of LTS?
[00:08] <bazhang> klystron, thats not for a year from now
[00:08] <nacc> klystron: gnome will be the default, unity will still be around
[00:09] <latino31> i think reading is the issue here huh...
[00:09] <nacc>         os.mkdir(os.path.join(self.basic_tmpdir, 'dev/disk/by-path'))
[00:09] <nacc> sorry, random c&p
[00:09] <kunji> latino31: You're kidding right, you want someone to try and debug from the one line?
[00:09] <Viking667> nacc: so we can't ... oh.
[00:09] <Viking667> nacc: how come we can't ask about Unity's future here?
[00:10] <latino31> kunji, thats the only error message...you want me to post that same error message that is exactly the same but reapeaded a hundred times.i can if you want..
[00:10] <tgm4883> Viking667: it's not support
[00:10] <tgm4883> Viking667: however you can totally talk about it in #ubuntu-discuss
[00:10] <Viking667> I wasn't aware this is SOLELY a "support" channel...
[00:10] <latino31> if that will make this process easier
[00:10] <tgm4883> Viking667: it is :)
[00:10] <bazhang> Viking667, #ubuntu-discuss is great for that
[00:10] <nacc> Viking667: see /topic?
[00:10] <latino31> i can post the SAME error message 100 times
[00:10] <Viking667> *sigh*
[00:10] <tgm4883> Viking667: there's good reasons for it too, which we can discuss in #ubuntu-discuss too if you want
[00:11] <klystron> my question is if you have 16.04 lts will that ave the same issues when unity is droped
[00:11] <nacc> Viking667: but also generally, we can't support something that doesn't yet exist
[00:11] <bazhang> latino31, here is volunteer, your attitude is not getting you many wanting to help
[00:11] <Toothless> Accordingly to www.notebookcheck.com and cpuboss.com and ark.Intel.com the Core 2 Duo T6400 is a x86-64 processor
[00:11] <nacc> klystron: "the same issues"?
[00:11] <latino31> bazhang, well i guess they will fix it when others start complaining...
[00:11] <nacc> klystron: also, we don't know as 18.04 hasn't started yet and that's the LTS release
[00:12] <bazhang> latino31, perhpas those others will give full details, bugs filed etc
[00:12] <klystron> well im referring to 16.04 if unity is not supported when 18.04 is released
[00:13] <tgm4883> klystron: unity is supported until 2021 on 16.04
[00:13] <latino31> bazhang, well if you would scroll up i went through q & a with someone else like 30 mins and they said to go to pulse audio and I did and as I stated i think we narrowed down the issue to the sound card is "busy" sometimes...i was in #ubuntu and #pulseaudio for about an hour or more last night...no one gave an answer..
[00:13] <tgm4883> klystron: but you probably don't have support anyway
[00:13] <bazhang> klystron, the very next release, 17.10 is in another channel for support, so one that is still in planning is not topical here either
[00:14] <nacc> klystron: in any case, unity still exists even now, it will just probably move to universe
[00:14] <Viking667> klystron: what you're missing is that Unity on 16.04 will be "supported" as such, but only for 16.04. ANd the lifetime for a  x[24680].04 is five years
[00:14] <Viking667> won't be any loss.
[00:14] <klystron> ?
[00:14] <nacc> klystron: and the decision in 18.04 has no impact on 16.04
[00:14] <Viking667> Sorry, I dislike Unity.  Went back over to gnome.
[00:15] <bazhang> Viking667, please take chatter elsewhere
[00:15] <kunji> latino31: Report your bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio With the full log and the output from lspci so they can see what hardware is being affected as well as anything else that you feel may be relevant.
[00:15] <kunji> latino31: But also check that your bug is not a duplicate of an existing one.
[00:16] <klystron> can one set up a personal repo?
[00:16]  * tgm4883 puts a fiver on that bug never getting filed
[00:16] <bazhang> !PPA | klystron
[00:17] <bazhang> klystron, that wont change your version being eol unsupported however
[00:17] <klystron> whats the advantage of a PPA if any?
[00:18] <bazhang> klystron, somethings not new in the repos, for example
[00:18] <rahim> hello and greedings
[00:18] <klystron> i understand that
[00:18] <rahim> I need help to assemble squirrelmail
[00:19] <bazhang> !compile > rahim
[00:19] <latino31> any status on this...i saw this too... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1666696
[00:19] <klystron> so just to clear up any misunderstanding you are saying that my cpu is 64 bit ready
[00:19] <bazhang> correct klystron
[00:19] <ChaiTRex> klystron: Yep, though Ubuntu might screw up handling it and need to be 32-bit to work.
[00:20] <rahim> ubottu: what private msg
[00:20] <latino31> i saw this as well i got those same errors ..https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1689555
[00:20] <klystron> so why would a 64bit fail to instal
[00:20] <ChaiTRex> klystron: Bugs.
[00:20] <bazhang> !compile | rahim read this
[00:20] <klystron> in the kernel?
[00:20] <latino31> wow there are bugs reports about it amazing :)
[00:21] <tgm4883> latino31: surely you mean you just have the same one error
[00:21] <ChaiTRex> klystron: Could be. Could also be other important parts of the distribution, like systemd or something.
[00:21] <latino31> tgm4883, maybe you should look close there is more than one error..<[00:22] <latino31> are we arguing about this...
[00:22] <latino31> ?
[00:22] <latino31> or are you going to try to help
[00:22] <tgm4883> latino31: surely not "5:10 PM <latino31> kunji, thats the only error message...you want me to post that same error message that is exactly the same but reapeaded a hundred times.i can if you want.."
[00:22] <bazhang> latino31, please, for the very last time, be civil here
[00:22] <latino31> well i was referring to the link
[00:23] <latino31> bazhang, im not here to argue about the word error or erros they can tone it down too
[00:23] <latino31> i posted links to bug reports
[00:23] <latino31> any news on those?
[00:23] <bazhang> latino31, that is enough
[00:23] <tgm4883> latino31: you've been hostile since you arrived
[00:23] <latino31> im asking again
[00:23] <latino31> any news on those bug reports
[00:23] <tgm4883> latino31: well one of them is 11 hours old...
[00:23] <bazhang> latino31, you sign up for that bug, YOU follow it, not us
[00:24] <latino31> well at least it established that theere is an issue...
[00:25] <klystron> have a question on disk format and partitioning
[00:25] <latino31> :)
[00:25] <latino31> thanks for listening buddies :)
[00:25] <latino31> im glad tgm4883 sound is working good...that seems to be the standard lol
[00:26] <tgm4883> latino31: I'm glad it's working too. I'd hate not having sound. /me turns up his music
[00:26] <latino31> turn it up
[00:26] <klystron> if you have a new hard drive what is the best way to multi or triple boot using hardware with efi bios
[00:26] <latino31> maybe it will people in a better mood to actually help people instead of trolling
[00:27] <tgm4883> bazhang: yea, that was probably for the better.
[00:27] <klystron> when building a partition from scratch
[00:28] <texla> Ubuntu-16.04.2 Unity Lost the use of the files icon to open documents,downloads,etc What is the proper name of that icon so I can reinstall
[00:28] <kunji> klystron: LVM if you want it to be really flexible.
[00:28] <bazhang> klystron, using mkfs? or gparted or what
[00:28] <klystron> say i wanted win10 ubuntu and unix
[00:29] <kunji> klystron: Oh, well Win10 will do it's thing.... still NTFS
[00:29] <klystron> yeah thats the problem windows
[00:29] <kunji> klystron: Linux you have many options, unix being actual unix or you mean some derivative?
[00:30] <klystron> bsd
[00:30] <rahim> mint
[00:30]  * Oona PLEASE STOP TROLLING IN #UBUNTU: tgm4883 joeytwiddle_ b1tpunk yeti flaguy48 fginther Swish Colti Spr deb vila jamesbee rager AzureX zwischenzug Ieuan Adbray jhutchins pelle2 MarkusDBX FinalX styler2go intelux_ estranger ph3dx alxd Mouaad cconstantine dhollinger bawa ouroumov_ Mia pcdummy V7 mantono Phaiax holodoc mpmc enoch85 mariogrip krphop stryx` #ubun noteness apocolipse rotzbub_ georgeowell Rochvellon musician_pro bipolar
[00:30] <klystron> so would tat be classed as a derivative?
[00:33] <kunji> klystron: I think BSD has quite a few options as well.  You'll need a fat32 boot partition for EFI, then an NTFS partition for Windows, after that I personally would prefer EXT4 for Linux personally, and then... I'm not sure what is the preferred option for BSD.  Yeah, derivative.
[00:34] <ChaiTRex> I wonder if you could share swap space between Linux and BSD.
[00:34] <kunji> klystron: Oh, and swap
[00:34] <kunji> ChaiTRex: I believe you can
[00:35] <rahim> Iam going to try to install squirrel mail by myself
[00:35] <rahim> ok
[00:37] <klystron> i did manage using lvm some time ago but found it more difficult then using n number of ext partions
[00:37] <texla> Ubuntu-16.04.2 Unity Lost the use of the files icon to open documents,downloads,etc What is the proper name of that icon so I can reinstall
[00:38] <tgm4883> texla: are you talking about unity-lens-files ?
[00:40] <texla> tgm4883, I don't know what it is called but it is the icon you use to open documents and downloads when I CLICK IT WILL NO LONGER OPEN
[00:40] <klystron> is it possible to reinstal the printer software?
[00:40] <riidom> what does super-T do? texla
[00:40] <tgm4883> texla: well if your looking in the dash, that would be the package name for the files lens, which sounds like what you're talking about
[00:40] <Dremo> Hey guys
[00:40] <klystron> using the command line
[00:41] <Dremo> Do you guys wanna hear a pretty good song?
[00:41] <Dremo> https://youtu.be/2-rSopYxhl4?t=10s
[00:42] <klystron> why i as is that a friend has got a version of ubuntu that the printer software did work after it was installed via a cd
[00:43] <texla> tgm4883, I believe that is right I find files in dash and on the desktop but neighter open
[00:43] <quintopia> Dremo: wrong channel? you maybe meant ##music?
[00:43] <klystron> but after an update could not select or find the printer version
[00:43] <tgm4883> texla: wait, are you talking about nautilus ?
[00:44] <Dremo> can you at least tell me if you like that song
[00:44] <tgm4883> Dremo: no
[00:44] <Dremo> why
[00:44] <texla> tgm4883, No nott nautilus
[00:45] <tgm4883> texla: what do you mean when you say you find files on the desktop but it doesn't open
[00:45] <klystron> so i was wondering if it could be reinstalled using the cml
[00:46] <texla> tgm4883, The desktop has an icon named files as does dash but clicking on either will not open files
[00:46] <klystron> i think the database has been damaged containing various makes of printers
[00:46] <tgm4883> texla: if it's labeled Files, I'm pretty sure that's nautilus
[00:47] <texla> tgm4883, Okay will open nautilus and check
[00:49] <texla> tgm4883, Should I reinstall Nautilus from synpatic
[00:50] <ChaiTRex> texla: You can try `sudo apt install --reinstall nautilus`.
[00:50] <tgm4883> texla: uh, IDK. I don't know what issue you're having. I'd start by trying to run nautilus from a terminal and see what errors pop up
[00:52] <texla> tgm4883, Ok thanks for the help!!!
[01:21] <mmgoty> fresh install of ubuntu every once in a while or ubuntu fresh install and then do everything on virtual machine and revert to fresh every session?
[01:24] <tyriondwarf> is this correct for copying a file from one location to current dir  sudo cp -r /media/psf/LxUb16-s1/temp\ web\ files/static\ copy/ .
[01:27] <generic_> Hello, Lady and Gentelman
[01:28] <al2o3-cr> tyriondwarf: yep, though i doubt you want -r for just a file
[01:29] <generic_> Wounder why my apt get install command doesn't work
[01:29] <generic_> :DDD
[01:29] <orkan> no need for apt-get anymore?
[01:29] <orkan> just use apt
[01:29] <Mathisen> correct
[01:29] <generic_> ohh really
[01:29] <generic_> thanks man
[01:47] <nacc> generic_: but apt-get also works
[01:47] <nacc> generic_: and apt doesn't do anything different than what apt-get does, it's just a nicer interface (to some)
[01:50] <Mathisen> but but.. colors... :)
[01:56] <generic_> Is anybody play cs source here?
[01:56] <Guest39185> is anyone on topic here??
[01:56] <Mathisen> generic_, wrong channel for that
[01:57] <generic_> sorry lol
[01:57] <Mathisen> generic_, /msg alis list WHATEVER or try quakenet instead of freenode
[02:16] <dlam> anyone ever install the Helvetica font on their machine?  i do web development and fonts in chrome don't always look the same as my mac counterparts
[02:17] <rud0lf> i think web pages shouldn't be platform dependent
[02:17] <rud0lf> it's natural that it varies through systems, or even browsers
[02:18] <Guest39185> dlam: your website should deliver the font if you really need a specific font
[02:18] <rud0lf> but as long as i remember you can supply font with page
[02:18] <rud0lf> just look at the legal part of distributing it
[02:19] <Guest39185> dlam: and remember: a font name is not allowed to start with a number...
[02:19] <Guest39185> for webpages
[02:19] <dlam> yeah maybe i should just deliver a Helvetica font on my laptop if that's available somewhere
[02:20] <Guest39185> sure it is. but as rud0lf said: see if you are allowed to distribute it
[02:20] <dlam> like 'font-weight:600' doesn't show a slightly bolder font, cuz it's DejaVu Sans or some free linux font
[02:21] <Jordan_U> dlam: For the official Microsoft fonts "sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
[02:21] <rud0lf> there's "Liberation Sans" that looks similar to helvetica
[02:21] <rud0lf> it's free
[02:22] <rud0lf> or google font "Arimo" / "Roboto"
[02:22] <rud0lf> dlam: https://i.imgur.com/Eb09WZE.png
[02:23] <Guest39185> besides being totally off topic right now... even if you haev the fonts you need the browsers may render your css totally different - live with it
[02:23] <Jordan_U> dlam: There is also the package "fonts-liberation".
[02:23] <Jordan_U> !info fonts-liberation | dlam
[02:24] <dlam> yeap agreed, i just need t on my ubunu laptop cuz sometimes i think i see styling bugs... but it's really just my ubuntu 14.04 not having them proprietary fonts i think
[02:24] <dlam> ooo i haven't tried fonts-liberation
[02:27] <chatter29> hey guys
[02:27] <chatter29> allah is doing
[02:28] <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
[02:28] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
[02:29] <mikhael_k33hl> I have a laptop with Windows pre-installed in /dev/sdb, with /dev/sdb1 as the efi partition. Now I'm trying to install Ubuntu on the same machine, on /dev/sda, will I need to create a /boot partition for it?
[02:45] <Viking667> mikhael_k33hl: sorry about the late reply. It's not mandatory, at least in my opinion. I have had systems that have gone either way, the only thing you'll need to keep an eye on with a separate /boot is the amount of space you allocate to it.
[02:45] <mikhael_k33hl> Viking667: tried installing Ubuntu, I get an error: the attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition 1 (sda) at /boot/efi failed.
[02:45] <Viking667> I've had issues where I've been unable to upgrade until I removed a few older versions of the kernel.
[02:45] <mikhael_k33hl> I pointed the bootloader installation to /dev/sdb
[02:46] <Viking667> hm. I suspect that grub thinks your windows is /dev/sda
[02:47] <Viking667> ANyhow, I need to depart, my apologies for leaving you in the lurch, mikhael_k33hl
[02:49] <User602> what would you recommend the permissions be on secondary drives owned by a user?
[03:04] <sweetheart> Goodnight I love you all
[03:14] <Guest5157> can anyone help me install qt5ct from a tar.bz2 file?
[03:16] <kostkon> !find qt5ct
[03:18] <Guest5157> kostkon: what's this mean?
[03:18] <kostkon> Guest5157, what are you trying to achieve?
[03:18] <ChaiTRex> !tarball
[03:18] <ChaiTRex> !tarball | Guest5157
[03:18] <ChaiTRex> Haha
[03:19] <Guest5157> I'm trying to fix a bug in a program called ckb-next.
[03:19] <ChaiTRex> Good bot.
[03:19] <Guest5157> give me a second to post a link to the bug.
[03:20] <Guest5157> kostkon: https://github.com/mattanger/ckb-next/issues/116
[03:20] <Guest5157> basically the driver for my keyboard freezes when I try to change the key colors
[03:20] <Guest5157> it's an open-source, third party driver
[03:25] <kostkon> Guest5157, how did you install the driver?
[03:25] <Guest5157> kostkon: downloaded git repo as zip, extracted zip, installed dependencies through bash, then ran the install script
[03:26] <Guest5157> kostkon: I should mention, the keyboard was working fine before I installed the "driver", ckb is more of a configuration tool
[03:27] <Guest5157> the essential functions of the keyboard are still working, just not the advanced functions that I paid for
[03:27] <ChaiTRex> Guest5157: Did you first try the init line mentioned in https://github.com/mattanger/ckb-next#linux
[03:27] <wizwizwizwiz> so i'm using ubuntu 16.04 lts and am running into an acknowledged bug in a cuda driver repo when updating ( Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/_var_cuda-repo-8-0-local_Release )
[03:27] <ChaiTRex> Guest5157: You might not need the qt5ct thing if that works.
[03:28] <Guest5157> ChaiTRex: I don't see an init line.
[03:28] <wizwizwizwiz> i just tried locking all of my cuda packages (pinning) via the synaptics gui
[03:28] <wizwizwizwiz> but when i run update, i still get the bug...
[03:28] <wizwizwizwiz> even though this bug is rapidly becoming one year old, there is no fix for it as far as i can tell
[03:28] <wizwizwizwiz> ... can someone recommend how to proceed?
[03:28] <ChaiTRex> Guest5157: Right after it says "try adding the following to your kernel's cmdline:"
[03:29] <Guest5157> ChaiTRex: that's for a different error. the tool recognizes my keyboard, just encounters a fatal bug when I try to use certain functions.
[03:30] <ChaiTRex> Guest5157: The bug report you link to links to that. tatokis says "Your Qt has a known bug, it has nothing to do with us. https://github.com/mattanger/ckb-next#linux"
[03:30] <Guest5157> ChaiTRex: the troubleshooter is broken into two sections. I'm referring to the latter section, "If you see GLib critical errors like ..."
[03:30] <Guest5157> ChaiTRex: right, which is why I'm trying to fix that bug by getting qt5ct working.
[03:30] <Guest5157> which was what my initial question was about.
[03:35] <kostkon> Guest5157, do you even have that file, qt5ct, on your system?
[03:35] <Guest5157> kostkon: I have the archive downloaded, if that's what you mean.
[03:36] <kostkon> Guest5157, no, whether it's already present on your system
[03:37] <Guest5157> kostkon: no, it's not
[03:38] <Guest5157> kostkon: I have qt installed, not qt5ct. I've tried installing a few versions of qt5ct based on PPA repos, but both of them failed to run for one reason or another.
[03:38] <Guest5157> so I'm giving it a try just building it myself, but having a bit of trouble
[03:38] <Guest5157> I have the archive extracted, and I'm looking through the readme now.  having difficulty with one of the instructions in particular.  let me post.
[03:39] <Guest5157> "qmake PREFIX=<your installation path>"
[03:39] <Guest5157> this is a source of difficulty for me because as far as I'm aware, Qt and most other programs on Linux are installed into multiple paths, so I'm not sure which one it wants me to specify in this command.
[03:42] <wizwizwizwiz> any help here for my broken ubuntu package
[03:42] <wizwizwizwiz> i just need the update to proceed without paying attention to it...
[03:44] <kostkon> Guest5157, it's probably where you set the installation dir
[03:45] <Guest5157> kostkon: well I installed Qt through a package manager so I don't know where that would be.
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> wizwizwizwiz: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[03:54] <kostkon> Guest5157, well, leave it empty and try to compile it, see what happens
[03:55] <Guest5157> kostkon: "Project ERROR: Could not find lrelease executable"
[03:55] <Guest5157> that was during the qmake step
[03:55] <uxfi> Good evenign freinds
[03:55] <uxfi> off to sleep
[03:57] <kostkon> Guest5157, try   sudo apt-get install qttools5-dev   and run the make process again
[03:59] <sweetheart> uxfi goodnight sleep well
[03:59] <uxfi> thanks sweetheart
[03:59] <Guest5157> kostkon: that worked to get qmake to complete.  now it's failing on the make step.  "make: *** [sub-src-qt5ct-qtplugin-make_first] Error 2"
[04:00] <kostkon> Guest5157, https://github.com/mati75/qt5ct/issues/3
[04:01] <wizwizwizwiz> can i get apt update to ignore errors somehow
[04:01] <xangua> wizwizwizwiz: and those "errors" are?
[04:01] <sweetheart> The timeout is too long for him
[04:01] <wizwizwizwiz> Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/_var_cuda-repo-8-0-local_Release
[04:01] <sweetheart> Oh nevermind
[04:02] <wizwizwizwiz> its an old bug in a major cuda package and nobody seems to have fixed it
[04:02] <wizwizwizwiz> i'm surprised something so important would have been overlooked for like a year
[04:02] <ChaiTRex> wizwizwizwiz: You can temporarily disable that repository, do apt update, do whatever, then reenable it.
[04:03] <wizwizwizwiz> chaitrex: i tried using synaptics package manager to "lock" the package but it had no effect on the error
[04:03] <wizwizwizwiz> is that the same as disabling, or is "locking" different?
[04:04] <wizwizwizwiz> or, put in other words, can you be more specific about what command you are saying i should use to disable the repo
[04:04] <ChaiTRex> wizwizwizwiz: It looks like it's not a package, but a file dealing with an entire repository. Doing something with individual packages won't help much.
[04:04] <ChaiTRex> wizwizwizwiz: Disabling is opening the file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and commenting out the deb line.
[04:05] <Guest5157> kostkon: so far, so good. thanks for your help.
[04:05] <ChaiTRex> wizwizwizwiz: And deb-src if that's there.
[04:05] <kostkon> Guest5157, np
[04:06] <wizwizwizwiz> and commenting it out like that doesn't cause the repo/repo packages to be uninstalled?
[04:07] <ChaiTRex> wizwizwizwiz: No, the packages will be fine, they just won't get any updates.
[04:07] <wizwizwizwiz> ok... that seems to have worked, thanks
[04:07] <ChaiTRex> wizwizwizwiz: You're welcome.
[04:14] <segersjerry> Hi, I have ubuntu gnome 17.04 and I turned on screen sharing (vnc) I am trying to get in with realvnc from mac os x and it claims "invalid endpoint: port not correctly specified" how can I determine (or set) the port to use?
[04:20] <segersjerry> alternately, is there a better vnc server that has full gui config tools?
[04:22] <PipeItToDevNull> segersjerry, I use DigitalOcean for tuts, they are top notch. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-14-04
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> segersjerry: be carefull with vnc, its a security danger worldwide
[04:26] <segersjerry> lotuspsychje, ok, is there a whitelist method, I only want to access it from one machine anyway.
[04:26] <segersjerry> PipeItToDevNull, thanks, I'll read that carefully.
[04:27] <PipeItToDevNull> segersjerry, To secure it you can SSH tunnel into the machine then connect to the host through there. Instead of opening it to the world
[04:27] <PipeItToDevNull> segersjerry, Or just forward X over SSH if you only need 1 app instead of the whole desktop
[04:29] <jeffreylevesque> what the heck does this mean - https://travis-ci.org/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/builds/230608144#L5418-L5426
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> segersjerry: if the machine is connected to internet, be carefull ok..dont let it run 24/7
[04:29] <jeffreylevesque> it tells me openssl created a cert successfully, then it says the key doesn't exist, just for the sake of it
[04:31] <segersjerry> lotuspsychje, thanks. I'll do that.
[04:42] <pressure679> How can I change mysql's data directory to an external drive?  How do I safely use a USB flash drive? Is it possible to scan it for malicious soft before reading/writing any data? As I understand, my system automatically mounts the drive when it's inserted. Running xubuntu 17.04.  An yeah, I understand all the ethics behind using usb's. Sometimes you just can't avoid it.  Like, what is it's popularity in the community of ubuntu desktop userse?
[06:30] <roobi> kubuntu
[06:31] <bobdobbs> just for kicks I've installed it and I'm playing around with it. out of the box it doesn't seem as, uhm, dazzling as it used to be by default
[06:31] <bobdobbs> that isn't neccessarily a bad thing of course
[06:32] <bobdobbs> but there aren't any panels by default, it seems
[06:32] <enav> disabling disk buffer cache will cause some kind of issues ?
[06:32] <enav> is it even possible?
[06:33] <krytarik> bobdobbs: Last time I checked, there are.
[06:33] <bobdobbs> krytarik: maybe kde is hitting some video issues on my system or something
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[06:37] <bobdobbs> how do I log out of kde? I can't find a menu or a taskbar or anything.
[06:38] <selckin> :q!
[06:38] <bobdobbs> selckin: wrong program!
[06:39] <selckin> sounds like kde didn't start properly
[06:39] <bobdobbs> yeah
[06:51] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:55] <bobdobbs> So I started KDE. But it doesn't start properly. It's janky and it has no panels or menus. If I restart my computer, KDE starts up automatically.
[06:56] <bobdobbs> How can I log out of KDE, and get to the login screen that lets me choose my desktop environment?
[06:57] <bobdobbs> One thing I tried: killing the X process. That just kills all display, leaving me with unresponsive screens
[07:03] <swensson> Anyone know how to automate openvpn so I can have a website they can register at and get access to the vpn?
[07:07] <sebsebseb> bobdobbs: hi
[07:08] <bobdobbs> One possible solution I've thought of is to start  kde panel manually from the commandline, and then look for something that lets me log uot
[07:08] <bobdobbs> the panel used to be called "kicker", I think. But that doesn't seem to exist anymore.
[07:08] <sebsebseb> bobdobbs: there should be a setting to not have auto log in, but may be harder to find in kde especially if it doesnt really wor
[07:08] <sebsebseb> k
[07:09] <sebsebseb> bobdobbs: what else is installed other than kde, i mean interfaces
[07:09] <bobdobbs> I've got unity installed
[07:10] <hateball> bobdobbs: it's kickoff now
[07:10] <bobdobbs> so I started that. but that doesn't have a menu item for logging out either
[07:10] <bobdobbs> thanks hateball
[07:10] <hateball> bobdobbs: how did you install kde (plasma?)
[07:11] <bobdobbs> I don't seem to have kickoff on my system and I can't find it with apt-cache
[07:11] <hateball> kde-desktop or kubuntu-desktop ?
[07:11] <hateball> well it's a plasmoid that you can add to your panel if you like
[07:11] <bobdobbs> hateball: I added the backports PPA. I can't remember exactly which commands I used to install it
[07:11] <sebsebseb> bobdobbs: you could for example try switching to another log in screen by installling and then selecting that by default
[07:12] <bobdobbs> switching to antoher login screen?
[07:12] <hateball> bobdobbs: can you bring up krunner with alt+space or alt+f2 ? that should work even if panels have gone missing
[07:12] <bobdobbs> yes
[07:12] <bobdobbs> yeah, alt-f2 works
[07:12] <sebsebseb> bobdobbs: yep  aroud five that can easyilly be installed from the terminal
[07:12] <bobdobbs> I think "switching to a login screen" is what I'm trying to do
[07:13] <bobdobbs> Like, atm I just want to log out, and then log back in to somethig that isn't kde
[07:13] <bobdobbs> but I can't find a tool that allow me to log out
[07:13] <sebsebseb> bobdobbs: may not be log in screen itself having issues though, just auto log in being enavbled yep
[07:13] <hateball> bobdobbs: can open a konsole?
[07:14] <bobdobbs> yes
[07:14] <hateball> bobdobbs: from krunner
[07:14] <bobdobbs> I don't know what krunner is
[07:14] <sebsebseb> hateball: how to stop autologin in kde?
[07:14] <hateball> bobdobbs: it's "alt+f2"
[07:14] <bobdobbs> oh right
[07:14] <hateball> sebsebseb: we'll get to that :D
[07:14] <hateball> bobdobbs: try "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell"
[07:14] <hateball> see if your panels will appear
[07:14] <bobdobbs> k...
[07:14] <sebsebseb> bobdobbs: hateball will assist you :d
[07:15] <bobdobbs> kquitapp(10659): "Application plasmashell could not be found using service org.kde.plasmashell and path /MainApplication."
[07:15] <hateball> bobdobbs: right, then just do "kstart plasmashell"
[07:15] <bobdobbs> k...
[07:16] <hateball> bobdobbs: that should bring up panels and such unless things are broken
[07:17] <bobdobbs> ok, running that command made the desktop flash. For a moment my displays have a background image. Then that dissapeared. Console has hung with output
[07:17] <hateball> bobdobbs: at any rate, kubuntu (and anything plasma) uses sddm as default login manager now, so you can search for "sddm" in krunner, go on advanced tab and uncheck automatic login
[07:17] <hateball> bobdobbs: can you pastebin the output?
[07:17] <bobdobbs> sure...
[07:18] <hateball> likely some broken config that makes plasma dive
[07:18] <bobdobbs> https://hastebin.com/upewosarag.pas
[07:20] <hateball> bobdobbs: you can try removing/backuping ~/.config/plasmarc and ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
[07:20] <hateball> bobdobbs: then reboot, and you should have a fresh session
[07:20] <Xatenev> j #geste
[07:21] <bobdobbs> k, nuked those dir's
[07:21] <bobdobbs> thing is, after  a reboot KDE tries to start automatically. I don't want that.
[07:21] <bobdobbs> I want to be able to choose my environment
[07:21] <hateball> bobdobbs: like I said, go into sddm settings
[07:21] <bobdobbs> how do I find the sddm settings?
[07:22] <hateball> again, krunner -> type sddm
[07:22] <hateball> "alt+f2"
[07:22] <bobdobbs> thanks
[07:23] <bobdobbs> found the settings!
[07:23] <bobdobbs> ok, it looks like there's a setting for 'auto login'. This is deselected.
[07:24] <bobdobbs> so in theory, if these settings are being used, I shouldn't be logged in to a desktop environment automatically
[07:24] <hateball> bobdobbs: then... you shouldnt be automatically logged in :o
[07:24] <bobdobbs> yeah
[07:24] <hateball> suppose you could tick/untick
[07:24] <hateball> if some config has gone wonky or so
[07:24] <bobdobbs> ok, I'll try rebooting and see what happens
[07:24] <bobdobbs> back shortly
[07:30] <sebsebseb> Really xchat or xchat Gnome is not in 17.04  repos? well not coming up in software anyway
[07:30] <ducasse> been replaced by hexchat long ago.
[07:30] <sebsebseb> ducasse: oh why?
[07:30] <ducasse> it's unmaintained, has been for years.
[07:32] <sebsebseb> ducasse: never liked them much, but xchat gnome was on the ubuntu tablet, as one of tthe preview libertine/xmir programs, so i thought woyld be worth a shot for the unity 8 17.04 session. which runs xmir as well?
[07:33] <bobdobbs> oh hai. i'z back
[07:33] <hateball> bobdobbs: Any luck?
[07:33] <sebsebseb> ducasse: i think with the right programs that can actually be quite usuable, for example konversation loads up in it, but not much else
[07:33] <bobdobbs> so yeah. I rebooted... and got dumped back into a useless broken KDE environment. No panels.
[07:33] <bobdobbs> at least krunner works! it runs and lets me open a console
[07:33] <hateball> bobdobbs: can rightclick the plasma desktop and add a new default one?
[07:34] <bobdobbs> right-clicking on the desktop doesn't do anything
[07:34] <hateball> bobdobbs: I'm not sure why you're being automatically logged in tho, that's just weird
[07:34] <sebsebseb> ducasse: oh and I guess this explauins why certain people in general mentioned this hexchat
[07:34] <bobdobbs> there *must* be a way I can kill the wm and get to the login screen
[07:35] <sebsebseb> ducasse: thanks
[07:35] <hateball> bobdobbs: what does "ls -l /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service" point to?
[07:35] <ducasse> !xchat | sebsebseb
[07:35] <sebsebseb> oh
[07:35] <hateball> bobdobbs: well sure, you can logout your session manually
[07:36] <sebsebseb> but yet it was on ubuntu tablet, with its 15.04 base though
[07:36] <bobdobbs> /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service
[07:36] <sebsebseb> but that device was from last year
[07:36] <bobdobbs> hateball: that's teh problem: I can't
[07:36] <hateball> bobdobbs: yeah, that's why sddm settings dont work :p
[07:36] <bobdobbs> what does that all mean?
[07:36] <ducasse> sebsebseb: as the factoid says, it was removed for 16.04
[07:37] <hateball> bobdobbs: lightdm is default login manager for ubuntu, sddm for kubuntu/plasma.
[07:37] <hateball> bobdobbs: so if it still uses lightdm, whatever settings you set for sddm wont matter
[07:37] <bobdobbs> I see
[07:37] <sebsebseb> ducasse: stable it says in factoid, rather than unmainted though. could mean it has dev releases still h e h
[07:37] <newcoder> I have added my name in /etc/group with sudo
[07:37] <bobdobbs> so if I change the symbolic and reboot then I might get the right login manager?
[07:37] <hateball> bobdobbs: anyhow, you can either configure lightdm... somehow. I dunno, I dont use it. or you "sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm"
[07:38] <newcoder> yourname is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:38] <newcoder> still, why?
[07:38] <hateball> bobdobbs: should give you an ncurses gui to switch login manager
[07:38] <ducasse> sebsebseb: i've just heard people here say it's not maintained, but i've never used it myself.
[07:38] <Toothless> newcoder: Did you set a root password during installation?
[07:38] <newcoder> yes
[07:38] <bobdobbs> I just rant dpkg-reconfigure sddm. It gave me some options. I picked gdm
[07:39] <Toothless> newcoder: You've got to type 'su root' inside bash and type the root password
[07:39] <hateball> bobdobbs: ...
[07:39] <oerheks> newcoder, "added my name in /etc/group with sudo"  .. normally you would do: sudo adduser <username> sudo
[07:39] <Toothless> sudo is not setup as you set a root password
[07:39] <hateball> bobdobbs: well, that's gonna be broken with plasma as well. you really want to use sddm
[07:39] <sebsebseb> ducasse: I will try a few irc clients later with the last Canonical version unity 8 17.04 preview later, konversation had issues with that so
[07:39] <bobdobbs> yeah?
[07:39] <bobdobbs> damn
[07:39] <bobdobbs> ok
[07:39] <newcoder> I did usermod -aG sudo loginname
[07:39] <bobdobbs> k, I reconfigured it
[07:39] <bobdobbs> now to reboot...
[07:40] <hateball> bobdobbs: "loginctl list-sessions" will list your sessions and "loginctl terminate-user" will let you logout
[07:40] <hateball> bobdobbs: regardless of loginmanager afaik
[07:40] <hateball> anyhow, coffee break.
[07:40] <ducasse> sebsebseb: i have no idea about the unity 8 stuff, not interested :)
[07:41] <sebsebseb> ducasse: welll theres a nice preview in 17.04 depending on how its used, but unity 8 and ubuntu touch is now dropped, waiting for forks as well
[07:45] <ducasse> sebsebseb: i know, but it's just not something i need/want. i assume it will be gone in 17.10.
[07:45] <sebsebseb> ducasse: yep  gnome 3 shell by default, and i assume no preview as well yep
[07:46] <sebsebseb> ducasse: maybe will end up with a unity 8 fork flavour, a official one, in the future, but time will tell
[07:47] <computeruser> using ubuntu 17.04 mate I have an issue with firefox where I think firefox does not have permission to start a caja window in the home folder/downloads
[07:47] <computeruser> causing firefox to freeze and stop responding
[07:47] <computeruser> there was some reported bugs online a while ago but I don't think it is fixed upstream
[07:48] <computeruser> probably a simple user fix chmod?
[07:54] <ducasse> computeruser: who is the owner of your homedir and ~/Downloads? and what are the permissions?
[07:59] <computeruser> right click John's Home Properties in Mate says the permissions of "john" could not be determined
[07:59] <computeruser> should I terminal?
[08:00] <ducasse> computeruser: 'sudo chown -R $USER.$USER $HOME' first to make sure everything is owned by your user
[08:06] <computeruser> if I right click on a file in my firefox downloads it is grey in the menu for open containing folder
[08:06] <computeruser> maybe I should set the default download folder in firefox and change it back?
[08:06] <computeruser> I already rebooted firefox
[08:07] <computeruser> maybe I need to reboot the computer?
[08:07] <computeruser> logout login?
[08:07] <jayjo> is there a default tool that I can use to annotate a jpg file?
[08:08] <tarzeau> create a pdf, then use ocrmypdf?
[08:10] <jayjo> isn't that to search pdfs?
[08:11] <jayjo> to text-mine them
[08:12] <tarzeau> it's if you have images, to optically character recognise the letters
[08:13] <tarzeau> and then you can search them, and also annotate them, you can probably skip the 2nd step
[08:13] <tarzeau> if you're fine annotating image pdf
[08:13] <ducasse> computeruser: try the command i gave you in a terminal and see if that helps
[08:14] <computeruser> I did that first
[08:14] <computeruser> that fixed it but also broke it more
[08:14] <computeruser> so now I own it
[08:15] <computeruser> but maybe it should be chmod 777
[08:15] <computeruser> cause firefox detected something wrong and made the option grey un-usable
[08:15] <ducasse> computeruser: no, that will make everything executable.
[08:15] <computeruser> 555?
[08:15] <computeruser> sorry I am still learning
[08:16] <ducasse> computeruser: what does 'ls -ld ~' return?
[08:16] <computeruser> this is a single user workstation
[08:16] <computeruser> I am always at the keyboard
[08:17] <computeruser> drwxr-xr-x 26 john john 4096 May  9 16:41 /home/john
[08:19] <ducasse> computeruser: is your homedir encrypted?
[08:19] <computeruser> nope
[08:19] <ducasse> computeruser: then 'chmod g+w ~'
[08:19] <computeruser> this computer is fresh install I was mostly just testing out the new ubuntu 17.04 mate on ssd
[08:20] <ducasse> computeruser: also 'chmod 775 ~/Downloads'
[08:21] <computeruser> ok done
[08:21] <computeruser> and I changed the prefs in firefox to downloads now
[08:21] <ducasse> computeruser: does it work properly now?
[08:23] <computeruser> I had to find something I could download without right clicking
[08:23] <computeruser> I'm testing it now
[08:24] <computeruser> it freezes now
[08:24] <computeruser> so first we fix the freeze but we made it impossible to click the menu option open containing folder
[08:25] <computeruser> then we made it freeze again
[08:25] <computeruser> and freeze again
[08:25] <computeruser> but I know we are both getting closer to something
[08:26] <computeruser> I don't know if this is a firefox bug or a mate bug or a ubuntu 17.04 bug
[08:26] <computeruser> but this is out of the box fresh distro official ubuntu 17.04 mate
[08:27] <budnyk> Hi, I have issue after I updated to 17.04
[08:29] <budnyk> I don't really know how to debug it or where to find help solving it. My external UHD display connected to DP of Dell XPS 13, goes black for brief moments, sometimes that happens once in few minutes, other days it could happen once in few hours. Anyway I didn't had any issue like that with 16.04
[08:34] <madsj> where on the filesystem can I access mounted android devices?
[08:35] <madsj> properties says mtp:/usb[2,3] (or something like that). I've experienced that the file browser misbehaves and I'm interested in the console line
[08:36] <computeruser> is it mtp or mnt?
[08:38] <madsj> computeruser: mtp
[09:06] <anagha> g?
[09:08]  * wunfvsc tgm4883 IM GLAD YOUR SOUND IS WORKING..WHEN ARE YOU FAGS GOING TO FIX THIS?? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1675892: h101010 kazuma_desu Guest40261 DzAirmaX rogst_ semitones meldron frostschutz jk^^ dv_ mhustak ws2k3 wonton yanope jelatta physpi StaticAmbience dman[m] Squishy cc_user necro Archrover icey Guest934 niq84 den628 ouroumov_ staplezebra Dark_Arc morphis Toothless link0802[ bluez_ philroche sarri mww113 h4write
[09:09] <snacks> hey, is there a good, up-to-date guide on making a .deb package?  On my Ubuntu system there must be something wrong with the filesystem. When i try to copy 400mb of about 100 000 files from one place to another on my drive. It copies at 1mb/s. It is faster to zip the files and extract them to a new location.  Neither is thedarkmod, terasology, voxeland or xonotic, for that matter.
[09:27] <DalekSec> TomyWork: Seriously, unregistered (and unauth'd) users are muted due to the spam.  They can't read you.
[09:28] <LibertyWeNeed> Hey folks, I want to ask for your opinions. What is your preferred music library / player program on UBUNTU?
[09:28] <snacks> LibertyWeNeed: I like MPV.
[09:29] <snacks> LibertyWeNeed: that said, I haven't done that much research on playlists or anything.
[09:29] <LibertyWeNeed> Is it like iTunes?
[09:29] <Ben64> no
[09:29] <Ben64> rhythmbox is closer to itunes
[09:30] <snacks> Ben64: I'm trying to make a .deb file for Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead (an open-source game), that lists its dependencies and can be installed in a straightforward manner (y'know, like any properly-done .deb file ever)
[09:31] <Ben64> ooh ok, my suggestion wouldn't work then
[09:31] <TomyWork> DalekSec well, apparently, you were able to read me
[09:31] <Ben64> TomyWork: cause he's an op
[09:31] <snacks> Ben64: what was your suggestion going to be?
[09:31] <TomyWork> oh
[09:31] <Ben64> snacks: checkinstall
[09:31] <ryzokuken> Hi everyone!
[09:32] <snacks> Hi ryzokuken!
[09:32] <TomyWork> thanks for the heads-up
[09:32] <ryzokuken> I'm stuck out of my Xubuntu installation, please help
[09:32] <bhanz> How to create sperate sudoer file under /etc/sudoer.d ?
[09:32] <snacks> Tomywork, we can read you now
[09:32] <ryzokuken> I am constantly getting a black screen on bootup
[09:32] <TomyWork> yeah i authed
[09:32] <ryzokuken> Any ideas what went wrong? I shut it down properly a few hours ago.
[09:32] <snacks> ryzokuken, what graphics card do you have? is it an R9 390?
[09:33] <ryzokuken> No, it's GT 920M
[09:33] <snacks> because that thing has had a high-critical bug for nearly 2 years now.
[09:33] <snacks> ah, nvm then
[09:33] <TomyWork> snacks so you want to create a simple .deb that only has dependencies?
[09:33] <snacks> well, actually wait
[09:33] <hateball> ryzokuken: can you get into grub menu?
[09:34] <TomyWork> there's a tool called "equivs" to create such .debs
[09:34] <hateball> ryzokuken: perhaps a kernel update didnt trigger dkms to build nvidia modules for your new kernel, that would break it
[09:34] <ryzokuken> hateball: how to do that?
[09:34] <snacks> TomyWork: No, I want a simple .deb that has the program, *and* lists its dependencies so they'll be automatically not-explicitly installed when I install the .deb
[09:34] <hateball> ryzokuken: hold left shift soon as computer boots, that should let you pick an older kernel
[09:34] <TomyWork> equivs can also put files in
[09:34] <hateball> ryzokuken: gotta brb lunch, so... I'll be around later
[09:35] <snacks> ryuzokukdn: what hateball said (with the shift thing)
[09:37] <TomyWork> snacks there's also a tool called "fpm"
[09:37] <snacks> TomyWork: I want to create a normal .deb package. Problem is, the official guide seems to be massively out of date (what with the bazaar plugin) and the .deb format seems to have been changed since then (check "man old-deb")
[09:37] <TomyWork> which can create .deb, .rpm and a number of others
[09:37] <Ben64> snacks: have you checked here? disclaimer - i didn't read it. https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian
[09:37] <TomyWork> snacks bazaar is still used by a ton of debian package maintainers
[09:38] <Skuzzzy> why can I only get to the unity desktop through lighdm?
[09:38] <snacks> Is the debian.org stuff actually relevant for Ubuntu though? Like, I know Ubuntu nominally uses .deb packaging, but are they actually compatible/equivalent with Debian's .deb packages?
[09:38] <TomyWork> snacks question: you don't want to submit that package to become an official ubuntu or debian package, right?
[09:39] <snacks> TomyWork: I was considering it in the long term.
[09:39] <TomyWork> snacks it is the same file format
[09:39] <TomyWork> snacks including becoming a maintainer?
[09:39] <snacks> TomyWork: depending on how much work it is, sure
[09:39] <TomyWork> from what i gather, it's a lot of reading
[09:40] <TomyWork> policy documents and such
[09:40] <TomyWork> if i were you, i'd screw that and just use a tool that makes me a package in the easiest possible way
[09:40] <TomyWork> like fpm or equivs
[09:41] <snacks> TomyWork: I figured that I'd go: 1. make myself a .deb package that works for me.
[09:41] <snacks> 2. make a PPA with the package for each game in it
[09:41] <snacks> 3.  What now?
[09:42] <snacks> they're on my 'Documents/games-not-in-ubuntu-repo.txt' so far
[09:43] <snacks> ryzokuken: idk, but is there an option for your Xubuntu install except with an older kernel?
[09:43] <snacks> ryzokuken: Because if so, try booting that.
[09:44] <snacks> ryzokuken: Actually, if you're not sure then type out your options in the GRUB menu, here.
[09:44] <ryzokuken> snacks: idk what happened, I kept holding shift, nothing happened, but Xubuntu booted fine
[09:44] <TomyWork> snacks, 1. could be as easy as "fpm -s dir -t deb -n yourgame -v 1.2.3 -C ~/yourstuff/yourgame"
[09:44] <ryzokuken> :/
[09:44] <ryzokuken> This is a moody system.
[09:44] <DalekSec> snacks: Assets can still have fun licenses.  Xonotic is in PlayDeb, not sure on the quality though, at all.  Debian #646377, #784764, #702695,
[09:45] <TomyWork> (you need ruby and the "fpm" gem, obviously)
[09:45] <snacks> ryzokuken: Sounds like you should ask hateball? idk
[09:45] <ryzokuken> snacks: thanks, I will.
[09:46] <snacks> DalekSec: Yes, that's true.  KTHX"
[09:48] <snacks> and possibly turning off caps lock first
[09:49] <snacks> also, mentioning *which* repo and stuff
[09:49] <TomyWork> snacks of course, but that'd be the solution to 3 as well so i dont see why you make the distinction
[09:49] <snacks> TomyWork: Wait, does a PPA need to be on Launchpad?
[09:50] <snacks> TomyWork: Or can you just host it anywhere?
[09:50] <TomyWork> isnt PPA a launchpad service basically?
[09:50] <snacks> because I've been floating ideas about Wine usability and proprietary windows games.
[09:50] <TomyWork> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas yep
[09:50] <DalekSec> snacks: The only services I know for that are OBS and Launchpad.  However you can make a private repo for yourself.
[09:51] <snacks> TomyWork: I thought it was a protocol for secondary repos.
[09:51] <snacks> isn't PPA something like "personal package archive"?
[09:51] <DalekSec> Typically in the context of Launchpad.
[09:52] <TomyWork> snacks you can host your own APT-compatible repository. I wouldn't call that a PPA
[09:52] <TomyWork> even if it's a personal archive containing packages
[09:52] <TomyWork> it just gets confusing
[09:52] <TomyWork> anyway, snacks, try the fpm command line i gave you above and let me know if it works
[09:53] <TomyWork> sudo apt-get install ruby && gem install fpm && fpm -s dir -t deb -n yourgame -v 1.2.3 -C ~/yourstuff/yourgame # adjust paths to taste
[09:53] <aredpanda`w> Hey guys, anyone has a suggestion for a sticky-notes application for ubuntu(or compatible with Gnome ?
[09:53] <guest-vfxrl2> vacation
[09:53] <snacks> TomyWorks: Then uninstalling fpm and ruby, presumably.
[09:54] <snacks> TomyWorks: Ugh, there's something minorly horrific about having multiple package managers.
[09:55] <snacks> It's like, you can have apt, pip, gem, vim-plug, steam, and manually-compiled packages all on your system at once
[09:55] <DalekSec> (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Setup)
[09:55] <DalekSec> snacks: Not as easy to use, but you can also checkout debmake and dh-make.
[09:56] <snacks> And it gets worse when they're different - like, Quake is available through Steam, and it has assets but no Linux binary. And it's also available through apt, IIRC, and it has the Linux binary but no assets.
[09:56] <snacks> AND THEY CAN'T COMMUNICATE.
[09:56] <snacks> Somewhere in there I have a full Quake, but I can't bloody well play it!
[09:56] <snacks> aargh
[09:57] <snacks> luckily, this will be fixed soon - we'll have apt, pip, gem, vim-plug, steam, manually-compiled programs, and also flatpak and snap! OH JOY!
[09:57] <tuskkk___> I have a machine with iptable rules, https://bpaste.net/show/dc3b72b4991c , this being a guest machine, how do I access port 8888 from host?
[09:58] <aredpanda`w> snacks, I dont understand how you're throwing specific PM for specific envs into the same pot.
[09:58] <aredpanda`w> i personally use pip to manage my python packages, even if they're available via apt.
[09:59] <snacks> aredpanda w: Yes, I'm being a bit facetious by including both pip and gem, since they're generally mutually exclusive.
[09:59] <aredpanda`w> and pip won't install gnome-shell, or the quake linux binary
[10:00] <snacks> aredpanda w: But then you have the problem where you have neovim-python3 in apt and 'neovim' in pip, and their relationship is unclear - will they clash?
[10:00] <aredpanda`w> choose the one your prefer (upstream or stable) and stick to it, not probs garanteed.
[10:00] <snacks> aredpanda w: The point is that a package manager is meant to unify them.  Why.
[10:06] <k_sze[work]> Is Ubuntu 14.04 supposed to support NFSv4?
[10:07] <snacks> also, gem/pip requires the "install package manager with a package manager then use *that* to install the actual package".
[10:08] <snacks> Like, imagine if the Ubuntu .iso installing Ubuntu, it installed Windows ME, and you used Windows ME to actually install Ubuntu.
[10:13] <hateball> ryzokuken: which nvidia driver are you using? 375?
[10:13] <ryzokuken> I'll check
[10:14] <oerheks> k_sze[work], yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFS_Client
[10:14] <ryzokuken> nvidia-375, version 375.39
[10:16] <hateball> ryzokuken: hmm yes that should work fine with 920m
[10:16] <hateball> ryzokuken: you could at your own peril try 378 or 381 from the nvidia ppa
[10:16] <ryzokuken> hateball: I'll try rebooting and tell you if everything's okay now.
[10:17] <ryzokuken> Brb, don't go anywhere :P
[10:35] <ryzokuken> hateball: its working, it's just probably a little slower now.
[10:36] <lusiphur> Hi, is there a problem with Ubuntu One registration? It refuses to verify email addresses for me, throws an error no matter what. If I can't register then I can't post an issue I am having to the forums
[10:48] <ppf> ceterum censeo, the ubuntu one registration should be killed with fire. i get that a login is required for bug reporting, but at least use the common oauth providers ...
[10:49] <ppf> if you try to make me create an account, i'm simply not going to tell you about issues and fixes i find
[10:53] <bonsaitree> How do i edit the default screenshot-taking program? When i press F11 i get one version of xfce4-screensho (which does not include an option for an area selection), but when i execute the "Screenshot" program from the Applications menu, it does have the option for area selection. Interesting thing is that they both execute under the name "xfce4-screensho" (i guess it's because of the different flags?).
[10:58] <diverdude> hi, I have an app which is highly dependent on not other processes interrupts the CPU and/or NIC and/or harddisk etc. I want to be able to monitor anything happening on the machine.... like any resources being used. is there a way to do that on linux?  Is there log with timestamp i can extract which shows my resource usage log for all resources on the machine?
[10:59] <loganlee> hello. my second internal hard disk is defective and i want gnome to not mount it automatically when i boot without physically removing the drive.
[11:00] <loganlee> it keeps auto mounting the defective drive no matte what i do
[11:02] <rbernat> unplug this disk physicaly
[11:02] <loganlee> rbernat, i dont want to unplug physically....
[11:03] <wrz3625> loganlee: if it is defective, why leaving it plugged anyway?
[11:03] <loganlee> no matter what i do it keeps mounting at boot.... gnome is doing it i think
[11:03] <hateball> loganlee: disable automount of all drives, or write a udev rule for it
[11:04] <wrz3625> loganlee: i mean, why do you want to keep the defective hard disk? what is it good for?
[11:04] <loganlee> wrz3625, it has some files in it... but i only want to mount it as needed
[11:05] <wrz3625> loganlee: you should backup those file and replace the disk.
[11:05] <wrz3625> *files
[11:06] <oerheks> hateball +1  https://askubuntu.com/questions/156894/disable-mount-for-internal-hdds
[11:06] <oerheks> depends on what filesystem, ofcourse
[11:06] <wrz3625> loganlee: once the hard disk starts to have errors, it is likely that you won't be able to read those files in the future.
[11:12] <harry1_> ubuntu 17.04: .xsession-errors log says: 'unable to spawn check-user-hooks ... no such file or directory.
[11:13] <harry1_> can't login to my usual desktop. the greeter just returns each time
[11:13] <harry1_> anyone have any ideas?
[11:13] <stevewwwubuntu> hi guys, I'm using ubuntu server 16.04 LTS, I need to change ulimit -n for all users that will survive a reboot.
[11:15] <someone_> Hi , I want ask a question about Database , What is the channel for these kind of questions ?
[11:16] <stevewwwubuntu> what type of db is it?
[11:16] <stevewwwubuntu> mysql, postgres, mongodb?
[11:17] <someone_> My question not exactly about database it is about ERD
[11:18] <stevewwwubuntu> ER diagrams?
[11:18] <harry1_> is it a bad time for help here? Is there a euro zone channel maybe?
[11:19] <stevewwwubuntu> I'd try stack overflow
[11:19] <harry1_> ok, thanks
[11:19] <stevewwwubuntu> try asking harry
[11:19] <stevewwwubuntu> I was talking to other guy about stack over
[11:20] <unityeightuser> test
[11:21] <stevewwwubuntu> harry, can you press ctrl+alt+F1 and get text login?
[11:21] <harry1_> yes, i can
[11:21] <harry1_> it's just my usual login that's failing
[11:22] <someone_> stevewwwubuntu yes ER diagrams?
[11:22] <harry1_> i think it happened because an upgrade was happening and my desktop crashed
[11:22] <stevewwwubuntu> you can try login there and apt-get upgrade your packages, check your recent config changes.
[11:23] <harry1_> i did all the upgrade full-upgrade. no change
[11:24] <stevewwwubuntu> sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-desktop
[11:24] <aw_> hey
[11:24] <harry1_> i didn't change config anywhere on purpose. where do you suggest i look?
[11:24] <aw_> wasssup
[11:24] <stevewwwubuntu> this should check all your gui associated packages
[11:25] <stevewwwubuntu> someone, there's plenty of youtube tutorials on converting tables to 3rd normal form and making ER diagrams for each step
[11:25] <harry1_> it just says: ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version (1.379).
[11:26] <harry1_> there are packages to autoremove but i didn't want to bury myself too deep in this mess :)
[11:27] <Guest4503> Jo
[11:27] <Guest4503> Was geht
[11:28] <stevewwwubuntu> harry, hmmm, i don't know personally if there's a way to check pacakeg integrety
[11:29] <stevewwwubuntu> can anyone else help this guy better than I?
[11:29] <someone_> stevewwwubuntu Could you help to find one because I didn't find a video to mapping generalization into a table
[11:30] <ubuntu> hi
[11:30] <harry1_> heheh. ubuntu is here now :)
[11:30] <harry1_> ohhh
[11:30] <harry1_> thought i was gold there
[11:31] <aredpanda`w> harry1_, have you tried 'sudo apt install -f' to make sure all the dependencies are installed ?
[11:31] <stevewwwubuntu> someone the wiki is pretty good for examples, links to 1NF 2NF and 3NF
[11:31] <stevewwwubuntu> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_normalization#Normal_forms
[11:32] <aredpanda`w> harry1_, my suggestion is based on having had the same problem with an interrupted release-upgrade.
[11:33] <harry1_> that just says there's nothing to do (apart from the autoremoves)
[11:33] <someone_> stevewwwubuntu Thank you
[11:34] <stevewwwubuntu> np
[11:39] <harry1_> stevewwwubuntu: i've registered on stackoverflow. is there any particular group to find?
[11:40] <aredpanda`w> harry1_, have you messed with your home folder permissions somehow?
[11:40] <harry1_> to quote the clapper: 'not wittingly' :)
[11:42] <unityeightuser> hi
[11:42] <Toothless> Hi unityeightuser
[11:42] <aredpanda`w> harry1_, try switching to another tty (ctrl+alt+fx), login to user user than 'sudo chown -R user: ~/', replacing 'user' with your username, then back to the greeter and try logging in again
[11:42] <Toothless> How can we help
[11:42] <unityeightuser> Toothless:  by putting money into unity eight forks :d  or developing them
[11:43] <Toothless> :o
[11:43] <harry1_> ok. you might be onto something there. i see Xauthority owned by root in my home dir. i might have started X as root in VT2 at one point...arghh
[11:43] <unityeightuser> Toothless: trying a new irc cclient not used before, auto joining here
[11:43] <Toothless> unityeightuser: I mean... Uh.... >_> I don't know how to comment
[11:43] <unityeightuser> but yes that works nice in this unity 8 as well :d
[11:44] <Toothless> unityeightuser: We should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic as it's a non-topical discussion, I am sure bazhang would strongly agree
[11:45] <aredpanda`w> hum, that brings me a question, will Unity be completely abandoned next year or will it be kept as a flavour?
[11:45] <Toothless> aredpanda`w: Ubuntu will not suddenly cut the support for Unity versions in 14.04, 16.04, etc...
[11:45] <unityeightuser> ar
[11:45] <Toothless> It will be phased out slowly
[11:45] <tsglove> o/   good morning everyone =)
[11:45] <Toothless> Morning tsglove
[11:45] <unityeightuser> aredpanda`w:  Unity 7 will stay supported on universe repo, but Unity 8 will go bye bye
[11:45] <unityeightuser> it seems
[11:45] <aredpanda`w> tsglove, o/
[11:46] <unityeightuser> except for forks
[11:46] <unityeightuser> aredpanda`w: shame since this unity 8 desktop preview is actsaully quite useable with right programs etc
[11:46] <tsglove> There was a port of Unity for Fedora...  I think that is still alive and kickin hard.
[11:46] <Toothless> Ask your question in here, #ubuntu if you're interested in supporting or getting supported, if not, feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic or browse FreeNode's channel list
[11:47] <aredpanda`w> Toothless, sorry for the O-T
[11:50] <tapanik> !sää hki
[11:50] <vixxo> is normal that installing a snap package (libreoffice) the mount phase take several time ?
[11:50] <aredpanda`w> harry1_, success?
[11:51] <maftoon> hello
[11:51] <harry1_> just about to restart. i needed to write down these places to get back. one min...
[11:51] <fukcingtosh> hello
[11:51] <fukcingtosh> hi

[11:52] <fukcingtosh> (
[11:53] <harry1_> aredpanda: thx mate. that fixed it.
[11:53] <unityeightuser> j
[11:54] <aredpanda`w> harry1_, glad I could help
[11:54] <harry1_> why did the error say that 'click-user-hooks' was missing tho?
[11:55] <harry1_> sent me on the wrong track for hours
[11:56] <aredpanda`w> I'm not too savy on  Linux/Ubuntu/Xorg internals, but I've had my share of problems related to 'unable to locate file or directory' that actually meant 'permissions denied'. I've also ruined my home folder permissions enough times to highly suspect of such error ;)
[11:56] <kemiiie> hi
[11:56] <aredpanda`w> hello kemiiie
[11:56] <kemiiie> I have a question
[11:57] <aredpanda`w> !ask | kemiiie
[11:58] <harry1_> aredpanda`w: your intuition was right then. thx again and good night :)
[11:58] <kemiiie> I installed calibre, and start up wizard  I fed something wrong, now i want to delete it's config file, so that It will ask me again?
[11:58] <kemiiie> It's a software, so
[11:58] <kemiiie> calibre is the kindle's software
[11:59] <bazhang> !info calibre
[11:59] <kemiiie> no it's not a software question, for any software, It's the same procedure, just delete their files
[12:00] <kemiiie> not the software itself
[12:00] <bazhang> kemiiie, you want converting with calibre help?
[12:00] <bazhang> kemiiie, that s what calibre does
[12:00] <aredpanda`w> kemiiie, try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure calibre-server'
[12:11] <sti-02> Bom dia
[12:20] <Koleon> Hello guys, does anyone use OpenVPN server authentication against FreeIPA server?? Could you help me to configure the pam module please?
[12:27] <jurrap> hey
[12:28] <jurrap> What do i need to install for ubuntu try to get new ip if network is down for some time?
[12:29] <PipeItToDevNull> jurrap, just restart NetworkManager
[12:29] <jurrap> or install? :)
[12:30] <PipeItToDevNull> Systemd and use that to restart NetworkManager
[12:30] <jurrap> package network-manager seems to want almost 300MB drive space
[12:30] <jurrap> btw, not using X or any UI
[12:30] <PipeItToDevNull> Ah
[12:30] <PipeItToDevNull> Does 'dhclient' work
[12:31] <jurrap> yeah, perhaps. but i would like to "automate" it
[12:31] <PipeItToDevNull> Script it
[12:31] <jurrap> true
[12:31] <PipeItToDevNull> Add it to cron
[12:31] <PipeItToDevNull> if down then x
[12:31] <jurrap> got it
[12:35] <telling> I have an issue where cloud-config says it failed registering python file /var/lib/..... (part handler 0). Having a hard time debugging this, any hints?
[12:35] <hosas> I need help with compiz-plugins, not installing
[12:36] <wadie> I heard something about Ubuntu not being free anymore, is that true ?
[12:36] <wadie> canonical wanna get investors and what not
[12:38] <akik> wadie: not true, but it's a matter for #ubuntu-discuss or so
[12:47] <PipeItToDevNull> wadie, Check your sources
[12:49] <menace> are there Ubuntu Security Notices for packages which are not in the section main, too?
[12:50] <hosas> trying to install compiz-plugins got this output:  compiz-plugins : Depends: compiz-core (= 1:0.9.11+14.04.20140409-0ubuntu1) but 1:<IP_ADDRESS>+14.04.20160425-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:51] <pynki> run apt-get update hosas?
[12:51] <pynki> anything custom in the sources?
[12:51] <hosas> I did that
[12:51] <hosas> pynki: I did that still have same issues
[12:52] <hosas> pynki: this the whole output http://paste.ubuntu.com/24548711/
[12:52] <hosas>
[12:53] <ioria> hosas, apt-cache policy compiz-core
[12:53] <hosas> ok
[12:53] <ioria> hosas, maybe trusty updates disabled
[12:54] <hosas> ioria: this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24548721/
[12:54] <hosas>
[12:55] <ioria> hosas, check in  sources.list if you have  trusty-updates disabled
[12:55] <hosas> ok
[12:56] <ioria> hosas, oh ...  i remember your compiz issue :p
[12:57] <hosas> ioria: hahahaha, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24548741/
[12:57] <hosas>
[12:58] <hosas> ioria: nothing is disabled only the https mirror that I manually add
[12:59] <ioria> hosas,  your system is too messy/complicated  for me, sorry
[12:59] <hosas> ioria: hahahahaha, that should be a complement right?
[12:59] <ioria> sure
[13:00] <s_kilk> Does anyone know how to ensure that the gnome-keyring gets unlocked automatically on login? for some reason that's stopped working in the last week or so, and it's getting annoying to manually unlock before using ssh, etc
[13:01] <hosas> ioria: no problem, I actually wanted to have different wallpapers for different workspace it's easier via compiz do you have any other method?
[13:01] <ioria> hosas,  nope, sy
[13:01] <hosas> ok
[13:03] <hosas> ioria: I'm not breaking this one now, I'm very careful 'now', I learnt a lot the last time (the hard way) thanks
[13:03] <ioria> hosas,  you're welcome
[13:04] <pynki> is there a way to logout when i close the lid of my laptop?
[13:05] <PizzaSteve> Is there a possibility to see earlier messages than the chat allows me to scroll?
[13:05] <pynki> PizzaSteve, the whole chat is logged
[13:05] <hateball> pynki: should be able to script that, been a while since I played with that tho
[13:05] <pynki> PizzaSteve,  irclogs.ubuntu.com here
[13:06] <hateball> there are scripts that run on the various events triggered by lidclosing etc
[13:06] <hateball> pynki: google-fu -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopLidAndDockScripts#Laptop_Lid_Open.2FClose_Scripts
[13:07] <PizzaSteve> pynki: do you know which specific file is from this room? theres a ton of #ubuntu[...]
[13:07] <ikonia> #ubuntu.html or #ubuntu.txt
[13:07] <ikonia> the channel names are the file names
[13:08] <pynki> THX hateball
[13:08] <pynki> will have a look into that
[13:10] <PizzaSteve> pynki, ikonia: thank you very much
[13:28] <liquidUb> Hi. I'm on ubuntu 16.10 . There is a way, preferrably not so hard, to make an iso image of my curent install (that is,OS,apps,settings) to install on a different (or the same ) computer at a later date ? Thanks .
[13:32] <ubuntu_user> Hello! I need help because my system won't boot after upgrade to 16.04.2
[13:33] <pynki> ubuntu_user, what are the symptoms? where does it stop? grub screen - after that? before that? any error messages?
[13:34] <ubuntu_user> Thanks for your questions. First, while upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04.2, I got an error about
[13:35] <ubuntu_user> "could not install /var/cache/apt/archives/ppp_2.4.7-1+2ubuntu1_amd64"
[13:35] <ubuntu_user> and it asked me to file a bug report
[13:35] <ubuntu_user> There was a button to continue the installation, so I did. When I rebooted,
[13:36] <ubuntu_user> it would start grub, then the default menu option would lead to a lot of text on the screen which ends with:
[13:37] <ubuntu_user> "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type "journal -xb" to view system logs, ......... etc.
[13:37] <ubuntu_user> I tried all these commands but could not figure out anything.
[13:37] <TomyWork> is your disk full?
[13:37] <TomyWork> df -h
[13:38] <TomyWork> should be able to do that from the emergency mode prompt
[13:38] <ubuntu_user> Now, every time I boot, if I select (upstart) then it boots fine, but then when I reboot, it goes back to the default menu option which  falls again into console mode emergency mode.
[13:38] <TomyWork> ok i'm not familiar with that particular detail, i'm out :)
[13:39] <pakcjo> hello
[13:39] <qswz> guys, whether you use sublime text or not, I'd be glad if you upvote https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/1361, they don't care enough about linux users
[13:40] <ubuntu_user> @pynki: does this answer your questions?
[13:41] <pynki> ubuntu_user, yes! but i do not do what to do from here :/
[13:42] <ubuntu_user> Do you know how I can set the default menu option in grub ?
[13:42] <DarkPsydeLord> qswz, much projects dont care Linus himself dont care
[13:42] <Palabra> How can I do to open ports on Ubuntu?
[13:42] <pynki> ubuntu_user, that should be easy to google
[13:43] <pynki> Palabra, what you want to do?
[13:43] <Palabra> I fond this command sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[13:43] <Palabra> but not work
[13:43] <qswz> DarkPsydeLord: about this issue?
[13:44] <pynki> can you run 'netstat -tapn' Palabra
[13:44] <qswz> it's supr annoying for me tough
[13:44] <pynki> and paste the output to some pastebin thingy?
[13:44] <DarkPsydeLord> qswz, na about linux in general xD
[13:44] <qswz> ah ok
[13:45] <qswz> all the rich users are on osx or windows I guess
[13:45] <pynki> qswz, nah. perhaps for desktop computers
[13:45] <pakcjo> I have a question regarding Ubuntu 14.04, not really about how to do it, but how to do it right, I have a non persistent system and need to configure the default printer (out of 2 supported printers) on boot, currently it is done with udev rules (printers are usb), who call a script that removes all printers, configure the detected one and set it as default, is there a better way to achieve this?
[13:45] <qswz> so linux issues priority = lowest
[13:46] <leftyfb> Hey, there's several posts about the same/similar issue I've noticed the past couple days: https://goo.gl/cmbDhO    gnome-keyring doesn't seem to be unlocked at boot anymore ... at least not for "login" specific items. My ssh key seems to be unlocked, but not for chrome which severely impacts it's performance and abilities. Anyone else seeing this?
[13:46] <DarkPsydeLord> Palabra, if there nothing showed as closed in nmap must being blocked by the firewall
[13:46] <qswz> most usb boot can still persist on the key
[13:47] <pakcjo> qswz: yes, but that's not the case here
[13:49] <ubuntu_user> ok thanks
[13:50] <qswz> nie generic name
[13:51] <acetakwas> Anyone knows how to successfully install FatRat or perhaps a good alternative?
[13:51] <acetakwas> For Ubuntu 16
[14:03] <DarkPsydeLord> Palabra, which port are you trying to use?
[14:04] <Zeljko> Need some web manager for ubuntu shell to add/edit/del users and to set user permissions
[14:04] <MustaKrakish> Zeljko, webmin
[14:05] <Zeljko> It doesnt work fine for me
[14:05] <MustaKrakish> shame
[14:05] <MustaKrakish> use terminal
[14:05] <DarkPsydeLord> terminal is reliable
[14:05] <Zeljko> MustaKrakish i dont know to do that via terminal :D
[14:05] <MustaKrakish> terminal is life
[14:05] <Zeljko> thats the point :D
[14:06] <DarkPsydeLord> easy to learn
[14:06] <MustaKrakish> Zeljko, learn how to Linux
[14:06] <tiktilaok> is the rupmor real
[14:06] <pynki> sound like a bad idea to run scripts with root rights from a webinterface...
[14:06] <Zeljko> MustaKrakish give me an exampe for
[14:06] <Zeljko> user permissions
[14:06] <tiktilaok> is the rumor real
[14:06] <MustaKrakish> chown
[14:06] <MustaKrakish> setfacl
[14:06] <Zeljko> want to set user permissions
[14:06] <DarkPsydeLord> tiktilaok, ?
[14:06] <pynki> chmod
[14:06] <Zeljko> pynki
[14:06] <MustaKrakish> usermod [options] group
[14:06] <Zeljko> how much HDD or CPU
[14:06] <Zeljko> i want to give a shell acc to someone
[14:07] <MustaKrakish> dafaq you on about?
[14:07] <tiktilaok> www.zdnet.com/article/canonincal-starts-ipo-path
[14:07] <MustaKrakish> create user
[14:07] <MustaKrakish> useradd 'user'
[14:07] <Zeljko> adduser
[14:07] <Zeljko> not useradd
[14:07] <DarkPsydeLord> the rumor is tru page is not found
[14:07] <pynki> Zeljko, both will work
[14:07] <tiktilaok> www.zdnet.com/article/canonical-starts-ipo-path
[14:07] <DarkPsydeLord> :D
[14:07] <Zeljko> pynki
[14:07] <MustaKrakish> vi /etc/passwd/ make sure user has /bin/bash
[14:07] <Zeljko> its too hard
[14:07] <Zeljko> give me some solution through
[14:07] <Zeljko> web interface
[14:08] <MustaKrakish> Zeljko, then go back to Wintendo
[14:08] <hateball> Webmin is no longer supported
[14:08] <MustaKrakish> webmin
[14:08] <hateball> !webmin
[14:08] <tiktilaok> good luck
[14:08] <Zeljko> i told u
[14:08] <hateball> So that's a rather poor suggestion
[14:08] <Zeljko> it doesnt work
[14:08] <MustaKrakish> Zeljko, it does, but so does learning how to admin a linux system
[14:08] <pynki> Zeljko, do not use a webinterface for things like that!!!!?!?!?!11111elf
[14:09] <Zeljko> why
[14:09] <s0lar1s> Because it presents a security risk to run a web interface as superuser, which you need to be to add users
[14:09] <DarkPsydeLord> cause they suck
[14:09] <pynki> bacuase if you cannot create a user in the terminal you are unlikely to secure a webinterface that runs scripts that require root rights!
[14:09] <MustaKrakish> Zeljko, http://bfy.tw/Bhu7
[14:09] <Zeljko> MustaKrakish u are so smart
[14:10]  * MustaKrakish knows
[14:10] <hateball> Zeljko: Tho I havent used this myself, there is this https://www.ispconfig.org/
[14:10] <DArqueBishop> Zeljko: without trying to sound insulting, a Linux for Dummies book may be a good idea.
[14:10] <DarkPsydeLord> xD
[14:10] <amosbird> hi
[14:11] <DarkPsydeLord> also theres the free ubuntu manual
[14:11] <amosbird> is it possible to use xmodmap to make Mode_switch+click produce alt+click?
[14:23] <MustaKrakish> that guy is a tool
[14:23] <MustaKrakish> not willing to learn anything...wants a GUI and it should *Just Work*
[14:24] <pynki> we all know where that comes from...
[14:32] <deeno> I was wondering if wayland already operates in Kubuntu or does it have to be installed. Does it need to be installed?
[14:33] <hateball> deeno: Kubuntu does not by default use Wayland, no
[14:33] <hateball> deeno: you'll want to install plasma-workspace-wayland, then you can choose wayland session on login
[14:34] <hateball> last I checked it was not aware of any other locales than english, and fun stuff like that
[14:34] <deeno> hateball: how do I find the package and complete instructions?
[14:34] <hateball> deeno: apt install plasma-workspace-wayland
[14:35] <hateball> that is all there is to it
[14:35] <hateball> log out, pick Plasma (Wayland) as your session and login
[14:35] <deeno> is it worth it?
[14:35] <hateball> well if you wanna tinker
[14:35] <deeno> why not then
[14:35] <hateball> deeno: also what GPU do you have?
[14:35] <hateball> nvidia support on wayland came like... very recently
[14:36] <hateball> AMD and Intel works since a bit back
[14:36] <tapanik> ubuntu 16.04 /Intel® Core™ i7-4510U CPU / GPU:Intel® Haswell Mobile
[14:36] <tapanik> works fine
[14:36] <tapanik> better than win7
[14:37] <tapanik> i love it
[14:37] <oerheks> 16.10 and 17.04 gives a wayland session @ login, not default
[14:37] <tapanik> no gpu proplems
[14:41] <bejo> send link for ddos web server. help me please
[14:41] <Pici> bejo: are you asking for information on how to ddos a server?
[14:42] <bejo> help me please how ddosserver
[14:43] <Pici> bejo: no. Thats not what this channel is for.  You're unlikely to find help for that anywhere on freenode.
[14:45] <Siro> hi
[14:46] <Siro> menu bar keep dispearing how to keep it
[14:46] <Siro> like in windows
[14:46] <aredpanda`w> oerheks, How can I find if I'm in a wayland or legacy session?
[14:47] <oerheks> aredpanda`w, if you need to ask, you run not wayland now
[14:47] <Siro> sfixed
[14:49] <aredpanda`w> oerheks, what gives?
[14:52] <acetakwas> Hello
[14:52] <acetakwas> Anyone knows how to successfully install FatRat or perhaps a good alternative?
[14:52] <acetakwas> For Ubuntu 16
[14:53] <deeno> How do I get wayland for gnome?
[14:53] <deeno> is it too early?
[14:55] <sweetheart> SoundCloud has the best dubstep
[14:55] <deeno> after doing a google ... I am muchless clueless
[15:00] <mikeymop> deeno: what ubuntu version are you on
[15:08] <deeno> plain ubuntu
[15:11] <ash_workz> I have a problem
[15:11] <hateball> !ask | ash_workz
[15:12] <ash_workz> the default image loaded by grub is, like... broken.
[15:12] <ash_workz> so firstly, I need to find out, wtf I'm talking about... I guess 'kernels' ...
[15:12] <Jordan_U> deeno: If you install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package, which will install a *lot* (more than is needed just to test wayland), you should get a wayland gnome session option at the login screen. You may have to also switch from lightdm to GDM>
[15:13] <ash_workz> secondly, I need to figure out which version is the bad one... how do I list kernels? dpkg -l | grep linux?
[15:14] <ash_workz> okay, yeah I think linux-image-4.4.0-77-generic is the bad one and linux-image-4.4.0-75-generic is the one I'm currently using
[15:14] <ash_workz> okay, so next, the symptoms: when I start the machine normally, it shows me my password screen... I cannot type and nothing happens for several minutes
[15:14] <Jordan_U> deeno: It's not really worth trying unless you're using Ubuntu 17.04 though. Wayland support is getting better all the time, so you want to test at least the latest stable release of Ubuntu.
[15:15] <ash_workz> so I force shutdown and start it up again; I get the boot menu, I select 'start in recovery mode' and now I can put in my password
[15:16] <ash_workz> once the image loads I have brief access to the mouse (once I log in, the mouse cursor is gone); my bluetooth peripherals don't work and I have no networking
[15:17] <ash_workz> I saw the networking error during boot: Error: failed to start raise network interfaces
[15:18] <ash_workz> so I tried systemctl restart networking
[15:18] <ash_workz> and i got an error telling me to check journal and systemctl networking.status
[15:19] <ash_workz> so I did and it was saying sendmail was preventing me from starting networking
[15:19] <nacc> ash_workz: hrm, that seems unlikely?
[15:19] <nacc> ash_workz: can you pastebin the actual logs
[15:19] <ash_workz> "Can't open /usr/share/sendmail/dynamic
[15:20] <nacc> ash_workz: from which command did that come?
[15:20] <ash_workz> when I looked it up, several people were complaining that this was a network interface dynamic naming issue
[15:20] <ash_workz> nacc erm... something like systemctl ... networking.status ....
[15:21] <nacc> ash_workz: ok, so not the journalctl
[15:21] <nacc> ash_workz: can you provide full logs? excerpts are misleading
[15:21] <nacc> or can be
[15:21] <ash_workz> nacc: sure if I can find them
[15:21] <ash_workz> nacc: where do I look for this?
[15:22] <nacc> ash_workz: the commands you just ran? oh you've rebooted to the older kernel now?
[15:22] <ash_workz> nacc: yes
[15:23] <nacc> ash_workz: tbh, i'm not sure, journal is a pain, because it's binary-logged (iirc). The networking messages may be in syslog. Alternatively, boot back to the faiiling kernel, save off dmesg and those two commands' outputs, switch back to the working kernel and pastebin them
[15:24] <ash_workz> nacc: is there a central place that logs everything during boot
[15:24] <ash_workz> ?
[15:24] <ash_workz> nacc: like the message that came up that said "failed to start raise network interfaces
[15:26] <ash_workz> well, I'll see what happens
[15:36] <ubuntu> o
[15:41] <ubuntu> hello
[15:44] <lucicam> hey guys, I have a bit of a problem. I have a thinkpad T430s with a dedicated Nvidia nvs 5200m card and I can't find the driver for it... the ones suggested by the "additional drivers" doesn't seem to be the right one and  installing it only breaks stuff like sudden screen tearing and such :\
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> lucicam: ubuntu version?
[15:45] <lucicam> 17.04
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> lucicam: what kind of driver version does additional drivers show?
[15:46] <kartezyen> Hi
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> kartezyen: welcome, what can we do for you?
[15:46] <kartezyen> I did something and now my ubuntu freezes at (initramfs(
[15:46] <kartezyen> (initramfs)
[15:46] <lucicam> version 340.102 from nvidia-340, but in the title it says "NVIDIA Corporation: GF117M [Geforce 610M/710M/810M/820M/GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (NVS 5200M)
[15:47] <lucicam> I guess the last part is only telling me what card I have ... not really that it's supported by that driver ...
[15:47] <kartezyen> I would love to avoid re-installation if mu ubuntu is recoaverable
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | kartezyen try this?
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | lucicam
[15:48] <lucicam> and what's funny is the fact that if I go on nvidia website I can't download a specific driver for it only a "linux long lived driver" whatever that means lol
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> lucicam: you could try adding the ubuntu graphics drivers ppa and test latest ones
[15:49] <kartezyen> ubottu I can't because in Recovery mode and in upsetep mode all same happens. frozen at (initramfs)
[15:49] <kartezyen> !recovery
[15:50] <lucicam> should I try to install the "linux long lived driver" from the nvidia website?
[15:50] <kartezyen> lotuspsychje I guess only way is to chroot
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> kartezyen: you cant boot into grub anymore?
[15:51] <kartezyen> lotuspsychje The options advance etc appears
[15:51] <fugee> i have files that dont show in pcmanfm with perms that look like -rwxrwxrwx
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> kartezyen: have you tried older kernel booting?
[15:51] <fugee> how can i see them in pcmanfm
[15:52] <kartezyen> lotuspsychje the "something" I did was removing all but current kernel
[15:54] <nacc> fugee: are they 'hidden files' or something?
[15:54] <Eventsy> Ubuntu got a recommendation for commandline speedtesting?
[15:54] <nacc> kartezyen: you generally want to keep the last *two* kernels
[15:54] <nacc> kartezyen: how did you remove them?
[15:55] <kartezyen> nacc honestly I don't remember ezactly. There appeared an app in in the Internet that showed what I could remove and I followed that
[15:55] <fugee> nacc i dunno i have pcman seet to show hiddens anyway
[15:56] <nacc> kartezyen: uhhh. "an app in the internet"?
[15:56] <kartezyen> nacc it was for Ubuntu
[15:56] <nacc> fugee: you can see them from the terminal?
[15:56] <nacc> kartezyen: what app? you don't need any 3rd prty apps to do this.
[15:56] <fugee> nacc es
[15:56] <fugee> nacc yes
[15:57] <nacc> fugee: strange, you could try filing a bug on pcmanfm
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> kartezyen: you mean autoremove command?
[15:57] <fugee> nacc i think the were created with android spycam
[15:57] <kartezyen> lotuspsychje I did clean, autoremove and one more thing which I don't remember
[15:58] <fugee> so mabe hidden in some way
[15:58] <lavinho> good afternoon
[15:58] <fugee> maybe
[15:58] <lavinho> how to put works rtl8723bs ubuntu 17.04 ?
[16:06] <ducasse> lavinho: what answer did you get the other times you asked this?
[16:07] <lavinho> no function
[16:07] <ducasse> ok, then there you go.
[16:09] <ash_workz> nacc: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1f1bc8a2618017890c77f70206a6c5a6
[16:11] <nacc> ash_workz: reading
[16:13] <nacc> ash_workz: how is your networking configured? network manager?
[16:13] <ash_workz> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the way it comes?
[16:14] <ash_workz> I would assume network manager
[16:14] <nacc> ash_workz: i mean, you've got a rather confusing looking messages (veth, lots of bridges, vxlan, etc.)
[16:15] <ash_workz> nacc: that could be docker
[16:15] <ash_workz> nacc: when I did ifconfig on the new kernel it only showed the virtual interfaces
[16:15] <kartezyen> I did this "apt-get -y install linux-image-generic" and I'm going to reboot now. I hope it works :)
[16:17] <ash_workz> nacc: as an aside, I had previously been putting off upgrades because of space issues; I had gotten a message that said "partial upgrade complete" (not in the console), and the machine was running slow enough for me to think maybe rebooting would solve the issue enough-so to at least do an apt-get autoremove
[16:19] <ash_workz> nacc: that's when I ran into my problems; I tried starting normally again from the grub menu, but that didn't work (don't remember why) so I tried in recovery mode; I had assumed that my problems stemmed from incomplete updates and not enough room to install them so I did the autoremove in recovery mode but I had no way of installing updates since I had no network connection
[16:20] <nacc> ash_workz: it's possible something is not properly installed, but i'm not sure what
[16:20] <nacc> ash_workz: sorry, still reading logs, as the gist is quite long :)
[16:20] <ash_workz> nacc: so I rebooted again, this time, I selected the clean option from grub, and then 4.4.0-75
[16:21] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah, I actually didn't realize how long it was till I gisted it :P
[16:21] <nacc> ash_workz: do you have a /usr/share/sendmail/dynamic?
[16:21] <nacc> ash_workz: and/or do you have sendmail installed?
[16:21] <haggardturnip4> hello
[16:22] <ash_workz> which sendmail points to /usr/sbin/sendmail
[16:22] <haggardturnip4> hi there...
[16:22] <nacc> ash_workz: ok, and that prior file?
[16:22] <nacc> haggardturnip4: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:22] <Seveas> ash_workz: but is that actually sendmail or secretly postfix or exim?
[16:22] <ash_workz> nacc: there does not appear to be a sendmail dir in /usr/share
[16:22] <haggardturnip4> i am a newbie on ubuntu. could anyone help me pleaseeee :(
[16:22] <nacc> !ask | haggardturnip4
[16:23] <nacc> ash_workz: ah i see
[16:23] <nacc> ash_workz: i think your sendmail-base is misinstalled
[16:23] <nacc> ash_workz: that file comes from that package
[16:24] <nacc> ash_workz: i don't know why or how your current kernel boots w/ networking
[16:24] <ash_workz> sudo apt-get remove sendmail && sudo apt-get install sendmail ?
[16:24] <nacc> ash_workz: but if that is the actual error cause, you absolutely should have a /usr/share/sendmail
[16:24] <nacc> ash_workz: 16.04?
[16:24] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah
[16:24] <nacc> ash_workz: i *think* you can just do a reinstall
[16:25] <haggardturnip4> is there any apps on ubuntu to see who is using my wifi? i have a problem with my neighbor. he always steal my network and block me.... i am looking for apps that similar to netcut or netcut defender...
[16:25] <ash_workz> invalid operation
[16:26] <FlyOnTheWall> haggardturnip4, can't you just look at the wifi router's webinterface?
[16:26] <krypto_> haggardturnip4: put a password on your wifi network.
[16:26] <ash_workz> haggardturnip4: if you don't get a good answer here, maybe try in ##networking
[16:26] <nacc> ash_workz: something like `sudo apt install --reinstall sendmail`
[16:26] <Seveas> haggardturnip4: change your wifi password and make sure it's set to wpa2, not wep...
[16:27] <nacc> haggardturnip4: not really an issue for ubuntu, tbh
[16:27] <nacc> haggardturnip4: if ubuntu could see that, then it means your wifi broadcasts who is connected to it, which seems like a security flaw
[16:28] <haggardturnip4> i always put password to my connection... he always be able to brick it -___-"
[16:28] <ash_workz> at the very least you should password protect the router... I don't see how your neighbor can easily hijack your network without that.
[16:28] <haggardturnip4> my wifi setting is always wpa2 preshared key -__-
[16:28] <ash_workz> haggardturnip4: try ##networking or #security
[16:29] <krypto_> not sure i understand
[16:29] <krypto_> you're using WPA2 with a password?
[16:29] <haggardturnip4> okay thanks ash_workz
[16:29] <krypto_> rename your SSID and then hide it
[16:29] <haggardturnip4> oh yaa nice idea krypto_
[16:30] <nacc> ash_workz: any luck?
[16:30] <CodeMouse92__> Booting my server this morning (Ubuntu 16.04), I got this message: 'blk_update_request: critical medium error, dev sdc, sector<PHONE_NUMBER>', and then boot hangs on that message
[16:30] <haggardturnip4> i will try to hide it.. but i am afraid... is it difficult for me to connect to my own wifi?
[16:30] <ash_workz> nacc it's performing
[16:30] <krypto_> nope, would just need to manually connect. however, this seems like overkill
[16:30] <CodeMouse92__> Best way to move forward?
[16:31] <nacc> CodeMouse92__: soundslike hardware failure
[16:31] <nacc> CodeMouse92__: (or failing)
[16:31] <krypto_> what router do you have? are you able to connect to http://<IP_ADDRESS> or http://routerlogin.net, etc?
[16:31] <CodeMouse92__> nacc: So, hard drive went *pbbt*, I'm assuming
[16:31] <ash_workz> nacc: Warning: 1 database(s) sources
[16:31] <ash_workz> 	were not found, (but were created)
[16:31] <ash_workz> 	please investigate.
[16:32] <nacc> CodeMouse92__: that's my guess, i'd check smart logs
[16:32] <ash_workz> that should probably read "n database source(s)" btw
[16:32] <CodeMouse92__> nacc: Which is going to be fun w/o the OS. Better grab the live DVD...
[16:32] <nacc> ash_workz: probably your sendmail config refers to a file that doesn't exist, if it was a failed upgrade
[16:32] <nacc> CodeMouse92__: yeah :/
[16:32] <CodeMouse92__> I *do* have a fallback drive, and daily backups
[16:33] <ash_workz> nacc:  okay, well /usr/share/sendmail exists now
[16:33] <CodeMouse92__> So I just have to remember how to actually restore said backup bare-metal onto that second hard drive
[16:33] <nacc> ash_workz: ok, that's good
[16:33] <ash_workz> nacc: should I maybe just do a normal upgrade first?
[16:34] <nacc> ash_workz: i would make sure apt thinks it's finished upgrading first, yeah
[16:35] <ash_workz> nacc: "it's" ? all upgrades or just sendmail?
[16:35] <haggardturnip4> krypto_ iam using huawei bro...
[16:35] <nacc> ash_workz: all upgrades
[16:36] <dxt> sudo rm -rf /
[16:36] <ash_workz> o.O;
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> dxt: dont do that please
[16:37] <dxt> well , I haven't try
[16:37] <svpn> don't even write command like that in here dxt
[16:38] <dxt> sorry , I am now here
[16:38] <dxt> new
[16:38] <nacc> dxt: regardless, there is no reason to write that
[16:38] <diamondrubix> hi?
[16:38] <diamondrubix> what up?
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> !chat | diamondrubix
[16:39] <diamondrubix> exit
[16:41] <ash_workz> Diamondcite: I think there's an ot channel
[16:41] <ash_workz> !ot
[16:41] <ash_workz> yeah
[16:42] <dxt> why there are so many people online but nobody talk about something
[16:42] <ash_workz> oops
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> dxt: this is the ubuntu support channel
[16:42] <ash_workz> !ot | dxt
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> dxt: only for ubuntu questions, not regular chat
[16:43] <ash_workz> dxt: I literally just pinged you in there
[16:44] <dxt> OK ...  can i ask the the relation between kubuntu and ubuntu
[16:44] <nacc> dxt: kubuntu is a flavor (kde)
[16:44] <nacc> !flavors | dxt
[16:45] <DJones> dxt: Essentially the same in the background, just different desktops and default apps, whichever you choose, you can install apps designed for either desktop environment
[16:45] <ash_workz> nacc: okay, time to try again
[16:45] <johnathon_> Hiya
[16:47] <kartezyen> I'm back
[16:48] <kartezyen> I guess that command added a new kernel and I booted from that
[16:48] <kartezyen> The cleaning process that I mentioned before is in this link for those of you who would like to know: https://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[16:49] <kartezyen> have a great day/night
[16:52] <dxt> can i ask something about python ?
[16:53] <dxt> python 3.6 and python 2.7 which is more suitable to learn
[16:54] <blip-> hi, my thunar file manager is freezing occasionally (I can still open another instance but the old one remains frozen).   when thunar is open,  'ps aux | grep thunar' doesnt show the process...
[16:55] <nacc> dxt: whatever you want? probably python3 -- but not really ontopic here
[16:55] <th0r> blip-, is it perhaps only on the first opening of thunar?
[16:56] <Bradipo> I need screen-cleanup to run on reboot to correctly set the permissions on /var/run/screen
[16:56] <punkboy> hi
[16:56] <Bradipo> If I manually run it from /etc/init.d/screen it does work.
[16:56] <Bradipo> But systemctl or service both show the service as masked...
[16:56] <Bradipo> How do I enable it?
[16:57] <Bradipo> $ ls -l /etc/rcS.d/S02screen-cleanup
[16:57] <Bradipo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Feb 17 07:08 /etc/rcS.d/S02screen-cleanup -> ../init.d/screen-cleanup
[16:57] <Bradipo> It's also in /etc/rcS.d (is that even used?)
[16:58] <nacc> Bradipo: systemctl enable ...
[16:58] <Bradipo> I tried that...
[16:59] <Bradipo> http://sprunge.us/bQhT
[16:59] <Bradipo> That's the result.
[16:59] <nacc> "Using enable on masked units is not supported and results in an
[16:59] <nacc>            error."
[17:00] <nacc> Bradipo: masking is typically done because something shouldn't be used
[17:00] <Bradipo> That's odd.
[17:00] <nacc> Bradipo: you can `systemctl unmask`, but you probably should dig into why it's masked
[17:00] <Bradipo> I tried to unmask too, it doesn't work.
[17:00] <Fentanyl> Hello. How do I convert 50 html Pages to PDF's?
[17:00] <nacc> Bradipo: what does it say?
[17:01] <Bradipo> Nothing.
[17:01] <Bradipo> It produces no output and has an exit code of 0.
[17:01] <Bradipo> This is not a daemon that needs to be run.
[17:01] <Bradipo> It's a script that only should be run once at boot time.
[17:01] <nacc> Bradipo: systemd can do oneshots
[17:02] <Bradipo> For reference, this is Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[17:02] <Bradipo> Right, and as far as I can tell, it looks like it should be running it once.
[17:02] <Bradipo> It's in /etc/rcS.d
[17:02] <faugusztin> Fentanyl: https://wkhtmltopdf.org/
[17:02] <th0r> Fentanyl, I would read them into Firefox and print them using Cups-PDF
[17:02] <Bradipo> Assuming Ubuntu even uses that directory.
[17:03] <faugusztin> Fentanyl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wkhtmltopdf
[17:03] <Fentanyl> faugusztin: Doesn't that save the PDF's as Image?
[17:03] <faugusztin> Fentanyl: HTML to PDF, how is that not clear ? :)
[17:03] <Bradipo> So masking this would make sense if it is only supposed to run once.
[17:03] <faugusztin> "wkhtmltopdf and wkhtmltoimage are open source (LGPLv3) command line tools to render HTML into PDF and various image formats using the Qt WebKit rendering engine. "
[17:04] <Bradipo> And that is how systemctl/service/upstart/whatevernewfangledservicemanagerubuntuuses works.
[17:04] <faugusztin> Fentanyl: so all you need to do is run wkhtmltopdf url_to_html output_name.pdf
[17:04] <Fentanyl> faugusztin on the webpage it seemed like it sould safe the websites as screenshots and then put it to PDF. Is that not the case?
[17:05] <faugusztin> Fentanyl: you mean if internally it is PDF of bunch of JPG's ?
[17:05] <Fentanyl> Yes!
[17:06] <faugusztin> let me test
[17:07] <Fentanyl> th0r is that what you mean? http://www.cups-pdf.de/welcome.shtml It doesn't seem to have sth to do with Firefox
[17:07] <Fentanyl> I installed wkhtmltopdf
[17:08] <th0r> Fentanyl, cups-pdf creates a virtual pdf printer. You print the page....to a pdf file
[17:08] <faugusztin> Fentanyl: seems like they are images with wkhtmlto
[17:08] <th0r> Fentanyl, it works with anything that can print to a printer
[17:08] <Fentanyl> Firefox can print to PDF's already
[17:08] <m8b8> anyone here?
[17:08] <th0r> Fentanyl, I thought so, but I just looked and didn't see it.
[17:08] <Fentanyl> Problem is, I need to either to it manually for 50 files, or have the same PDF File overwritten 50times
[17:09] <jrtappers> I'm trying to setup landscape with the free 10 server license, but I seem to have got stuck
[17:09] <nacc> jrtappers: might be better asked in #ubuntu-server, fyi
[17:10] <jrtappers> nacc, Thanks
[17:11] <nacc> Bradipo: systemd in 16.04+
[17:11] <nacc> Bradipo: um, i'm not sure -- it seems like there is no .service file
[17:11] <Bradipo> nacc: Yeah, it does seem like that.
[17:11] <nacc> Bradipo: so i'm not sure where the mask comes from, i see it says "/dev/null, bad"
[17:11] <Bradipo> Something is clearly recreating /var/run/screen... I wonder what that is.
[17:12] <Bradipo> Whatever is creating /var/run/screen on reboot is doing it wrong... if I can find where that is coming from, I can fix Ubuntu.
[17:12] <nacc> Bradipo: possibly `/etc/init.d/screen-cleanup start` ?
[17:12] <Bradipo> I thoguht thta.
[17:12] <Bradipo> But I modified it to write a file in /tmp and the file doesn' tappear on reboot.
[17:12] <Bradipo> So it must not be using that script.
[17:13] <Bradipo> Or /tmp wasn't available when the script ran (which seems unlikely).
[17:13] <nacc> Bradipo: i dunno, screen justworks here
[17:13] <Bradipo> It's more likely that there is something else creating /var/run/screen
[17:13] <Bradipo> If I run /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup manually, it fixes up the permissions correctly on /var/run/screen
[17:14] <Bradipo> So, I'm tempted to just add it to /etc/rc.local.
[17:14] <Bradipo> But that get's called multiple times if I'm not mistaken, so that's not even the right place.
[17:16] <faugusztin> Fentanyl: another option seems to be https://github.com/fraserxu/electron-pdf , but didn't test it
[17:16] <Fentanyl> th0r CUPS-PDF works, but prints them in a chaotical order. Is there a way to name the files after their html names?
[17:16] <ducasse> Fentanyl: this, maybe? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/printing-to-cups-pdf-via-command-line-with-options-889109/
[17:18] <ubuntu> Hi
[17:20] <ash_workz> nacc: worked :)
[17:22] <Fentanyl> Installing npm right now, noticed "fakeroot". What does that do?
[17:22] <nacc> ash_workz: nice
[17:22] <nacc> Bradipo: i'm really not sure, i'm sorry
[17:22] <Bradipo> nacc: That's alright.
[17:22] <Bradipo> I'll let you know if I figure it out.
[17:23] <ash_workz> should probably check that everything is okay with docker now
[17:23] <ash_workz> looks like it :)
[17:23] <system>  Latest Release: Magizian Windows Acceleration Pack 2017    http://www.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=2024037
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !danger | system
[17:25] <James_Freewall> hey y'all
[17:27] <k1nda> Hey, I just installed ubuntu on my lenovo laptop, and I would like to inspect the stack. Is there any good source to find out what each register contains, and how they are arranged on the stack?
[17:28] <Bradipo> nacc: The thing that is mind boggling is that I cannot figure out what creates /var/run/screen on reboot.
[17:29] <Bradipo> There is no script that does it except /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup, but it doesn't run on reboot.  I've put multiple echo statements, logger statements, touch files, etc... in that script and none of them do anything on reboot.
[17:29] <Random832> Fentanyl, https://wiki.debian.org/FakeRoot
[17:29] <lucicam> guys, anyone here managed to fix the screen tearing with nvidia drivers? I'm struggling for like 3 hours now...
[17:31] <nacc> k1nda: uh, 'the stack'?
[17:31] <nacc> k1nda: programs have stacks
[17:31] <nacc> k1nda: not the operating system
[17:32] <aotaointbin> nacc: you sound like you've never written assembly.
[17:32] <k1nda> Aha okey, I'm using gdb debugging a binary, and I thought all those registers (rax, rbx, rcx...) were ordered in a specific way on the stack
[17:33] <k1nda> or in a specific order.
[17:33] <Bradipo> Does anyone know if /etc/rcS.d is even used in Ubuntu 16.04?
[17:33] <aotaointbin> they probably are.
[17:33] <Fentanyl> faugusztin It says that the node folder can't be found. I'm giving up for now. th0r ducasse Thanks for your help
[17:33] <Bradipo> The README in /etc/rcS.d says they are, but all attempts to observe that they actually run are failing.
[17:34] <nacc> aotaointbin: for the purposes of this channel, it was accurate
[17:34] <nacc> k1nda: you want to inspect the stack in gdb?
[17:36] <kunji> Firefox in Ubuntu stopped working for swf files again, just tries to send them to another application for opening.  The last time this happened this was the fix for me: https://askubuntu.com/questions/478169/why-cant-firefox-run-local-swf-files  No dice this time so it is probably a different problem with the same symptoms.   T.T
[17:36] <k1nda> Yes
[17:37] <nacc> k1nda: info frame
[17:37] <ducasse> kunji: there was a flash update today or yesterday, iirc
[17:37] <nacc> k1nda: shows you stack frame info
[17:37] <k1nda> I was just interested in how the registers were ordered on the stack.
[17:37] <nacc> k1nda: probably want to read the gdb manual, etc.
[17:37] <nacc> k1nda: not really an ubuntu support topic
[17:37] <nacc> k1nda: given a stack frame pointer, you can inspect memory there
[17:38] <k1nda> Okey, thanks
[17:38] <kunji> ducasse: Hmm.... weird though, I didn't run any apt-get update recently, nor any apt-get upgrade
[17:39] <ducasse> kunji: maybe you should, then? :) i don't use flash myself, so i'm not much help i'm afraid.
[17:39] <kunji> ducasse: flash itself is working, ... I think, at least last time it was a mime type problem.
[17:39] <Bradipo> Ok, so /etc/rcS.d does not get executed at all, despite what /etc/rcS.d/README says.
[17:40] <Bradipo> Which explains why /etc/rcS.d/screen-cleanup isn't working on reboot.
[17:40] <kunji> ducasse: aka, I guess at the system level since that's where Firefox reads the mime types from
[17:41] <ducasse> kunji: try digging around in ~/.local/share/mime
[17:42] <Bradipo> There is this bug, but I don't know if it is relevant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screen/+bug/1474032
[17:43] <kunji> ducasse: Wait a second....wtf, Ubuntu upgrades things on it's own??????!
[17:43] <kunji> Start-Date: 2017-05-10  16:48:13
[17:43] <kunji> Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade
[17:43] <kunji> Upgrade: flashplugin-installer:amd64 (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>), librtmp1:amd64 (2.4+20151223.gitfa8646d-1build1, 2.4+20151223.gitfa8646d-1u$
[17:43] <kunji> End-Date: 2017-05-10  16:49:25
[17:45] <kunji> Apologies for the language, but that's dirty, Ubuntu should no be upgrading packages behind my back
[17:47] <kunji> Where are these configured?
[17:48] <_Ubuntu_> kunji, do you have the automatically install security updates option checked?
[17:48] <AaronMT> !warty
[17:48] <kunji> _Ubuntu_: Possibly, but I never checked it, since when did that become the default T.T
[17:49] <_Ubuntu_> I don't recall. But I believe that is set to default last I looked. I'm on 16.04 and I believe that was the default setting for me.
[17:50] <ducasse> kunji: that only installs security updates by default, you need to edit the config for other updates. just purge unattended-upgrades to get rid of it.
[17:51] <kunji> "When there are security updates: " [Dropdown menu] "Download and install automatically"  eff my life T.T
[17:52] <kunji> Maybe I'm just the weird one, but that should never have been default -_-
[17:52] <kunji> In my opinion
[17:53] <ducasse> kunji: i agree, didn't know it was. i use the server image, which asks you during installation
[17:53] <tgm4883> kunji: I'd argue that security updates should be on by default
[17:54] <tgm4883> but that's not really a discussion for here
[17:54] <hosas> ioria: how do I create a mountable /tmp on an existing system
[17:54] <kunji> ducasse: Well at least they understand it for servers.
[17:55] <Bradipo> nacc: Found what's doing it: /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/screen-cleanup.conf
[17:55] <Bradipo> But the permissions there are wrong.
[17:55] <Bradipo> The script in /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup is slightly more intelligent.
[17:55] <ducasse> hosas: you want it on a tmpfs?
[17:56] <hosas> ioria: yes
[17:56] <kunji> tgm4883: Maybe, but that sort of says something about who you think your users are doesn't it.  It DID break something on my system and it didn't exactly take long to be noticed.  There is a lot of software on my system that I need very particular versions of, thank goodness it wasn't something I need for work that broke.
[17:57] <nacc> kunji: in that case, you shouldn't be using a distribution :)
[17:57] <nacc> kunji: it sounds like
[17:57] <hosas> ioria: the os already exist it's not a new installation
[17:57] <ducasse> hosas: there should be a systemd mount unit you can enable
[17:57] <nacc> kunji: if you are so dependent on particular versions
[17:57] <kunji> tgm4883: Maybe it's my fault for using Ubuntu, but this change wasn't exactly rolled out on the red carpet, it departs from previous behavior.
[17:57] <Carl_Sagan_> system d is kinda skewd
[17:58] <hosas> ducasse: I'm a bit lazy hit me with the commands
[17:58] <nacc> kunji: by which i mean, security updates are incredibly highly recommended ... not installing them puts you in an unsupported place
[17:58] <Carl_Sagan_> dont use it until its matured
[17:58] <nacc> !ot | Carl_Sagan_ ?
[17:58] <kunji> nacc: Why, I can install particular software versions on any distribution.... so why shouldn't I be using one?
[17:59] <nacc> kunji: you want to, it sounds like, install old versions
[17:59] <kunji> nacc: I do install most security updates, but I do it myself and need to know if something breaks right away and roll it back
[17:59] <nacc> kunji: not all versions published for, e.g., xenial, are supported
[17:59] <Carl_Sagan_> ubottu: aye aye
[17:59] <nacc> kunji: ok, so sounds like it's just unattended-upgrades thatyou don't wnat
[17:59] <kunji> nacc: yeah
[18:00] <nacc> i'm fairly sure that's opt-in during the install on desktop as well but can't recall for sure
[18:00] <kunji> nacc: Mostly, though sometimes I need the old version installed still to run overly finicky software.... multiple Java versions installed
[18:00] <mad_> alguien en espanol que pueda apoyarme ?
[18:01] <kunji> nacc: Hmm, maybe I was careless, but I'm thinking it's opt in on just the server version.
[18:01] <tgm4883> kunji: it probably is opt-in on the server version
[18:02] <mad_> Ayuda
[18:03] <ducasse> hosas: copy /usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount to /etc/systemd and enable it
[18:03] <ducasse> hosas: /etc/systemd/system, sorry
[18:03] <hosas> ducasse: thanks
[18:05] <kunji> Sorry guys rant over
[18:05] <tetsuo> Hello, can I ask for help here?
[18:05] <mad_> yes I need help
[18:05] <kunji> tetsuo: Yes, and no need to ask to ask, just ask :P
[18:08] <tetsuo> oh thanks, I´m noob to Ubuntu, ok so I'm trying to set a third party vpn called Ivacy. On the main website it has detailed instructions to go the toolbar>network>vpn connections>Add vpn connection; But that option appears grayed out for me
[18:09] <hosas> ducasse: cp: cannot stat ‘/usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount’: No such file or directory
[18:09] <hosas>
[18:10] <kunji> tetsuo: You may need to install the plugin for network manager: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[18:10] <hosas> ducasse: or I'm doing something wrong
[18:10] <ducasse> hosas: which ubuntu is this?
 thanks I´ll check it out
[18:11] <hosas> ducasse: Trusty
[18:12] <ducasse> hosas: sorry then, that hasn't got systemd :) hang on, i've got a line somewhere you can put in fstab. give me a minute.
[18:12] <hosas> ducasse: okay, thanks
[18:12] <ducasse> hosas: 'tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=1777,size=512M 0 0'
[18:13] <ducasse> hosas: just adjust size= to whatever you want
[18:14] <bejo> thanks
[18:14] <hosas> ducasse: son of .... thats should works thanks - I mean it looks good.
[18:15] <hosas> ducasse: you think 512 is enough?
[18:16] <ducasse> hosas: how much ram has your machine got?
[18:16] <hosas> ducasse: 12 GB
[18:17] <ducasse> hosas: the way it works is that it allocates what it needs dynamically up to that limit, see what /tmp uses on your system now under normal use
[18:17] <hosas> ducasse: I know I don't need it , based on my ram
[18:17] <hosas> ok
[18:17] <hosas> tham
[18:17] <hosas> thanks
[18:19] <ducasse> hosas: /tmp here uses under a megabyte, but it depends on the software you run.
[18:21] <hdon> hi all :) on xenial here. i think my dnsmasq is crapping out a lot or something. yesterday on about a dozen occasions, i lost the name resolution ability for like 15-20 seconds at a time (as near as i could tell.)
[18:23] <hdon> i did a "find /var/log -iname \*dns\*" and found no log files, i also did an "lsof -p $(pidof dnsmasq) | grep log" and found no log files
[18:23] <hdon> i've now got "watch cat /etc/resolv.conf" and "watch netstat -nltp | grep 53" running on my desktop so i can get SOME clue as to what's going on
[18:24] <hdon> anyone have any ideas what it could be or how to go about troubleshooting?
[18:24] <ducasse> hdon: have you checked syslog?
[18:25] <hosas> ducasse: sudo mount -a outputs: [mntent]: line 15 in /etc/fstab is bad
[18:25] <hosas>
[18:26] <hosas> ducasse: take a look at my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/24550203/
[18:26] <hosas>
[18:26] <ducasse> hosas: look at the end of the line
[18:27] <ducasse> hosas: you included a '
[18:27] <leftyfb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/1689825
[18:27] <leftyfb> anyone else running into that?
[18:27] <leftyfb> if so, please mark the bug as affecting you
[18:27] <YankDownUnder> hdon, You might be able to test commenting out the line in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf that says: dns=dnsmasq => save the file, restart networking (sudo systemctl restart networking) and see if that resolves the issue...
[18:29] <leftyfb> hdon: how do you know this wasn't an issue with the dns server you got from you dhcp/your isp?
[18:30] <hosas> ducasse: where?
[18:30] <ducasse> hosas: last line, last character
[18:30] <hosas> ok
[18:31] <mixxit> hey all anyone know why i get this full screen black box in steam in wine
[18:31] <ducasse> hosas: but i probably wouldn't mount it while the system is running
[18:32] <hosas> ok
[18:32] <tapanik> just boot ubuntu
[18:33] <hosas> ducasse: thanks
[18:33] <ducasse> hosas: np
[18:33] <tapanik> bluetooth (shit format for all)
[18:33] <ducasse> tapanik: watch the language, please
[18:34] <TheMontyChrist> test
[18:34] <leftyfb> test: FAILED
[18:34] <TheMontyChrist> running under vbox, need to have open gl 3.2.  is there a software drive i can install?
[18:34] <TheMontyChrist> vbox is stuck @ 2.1
[18:35] <generic_> MOnty i didn't not quite get your question
[18:35] <generic_> give us more info what distro you are trying to install
[18:35] <TheMontyChrist> under vbox, ubuntu can only do opengl 2.1.  I was wondering if there 's a software driver that supports 3.2 - even if it's slow, I'll take it
[18:36] <TheMontyChrist> I'm running ubuntu 14 on win 8 vbox host
[18:36] <leftyfb> there's no "ubuntu 14". There's Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10.
[18:37] <generic_> the new version of Ubuntu comes with all drivers  need to make it work i suggest 16.04
[18:37] <TheMontyChrist> 14.10
[18:37] <leftyfb> TheMontyChrist: ubuntu 14.10 isn't supported anymore
[18:37] <ducasse> TheMontyChrist: that's eol
[18:37] <nanodrone> i get net ERR CONNECTION RESET in chromium on ubuntu 16 10 randomly... or some websites just get stuck loading one of their resources and end up giving me that same error... idk what to do...
[18:37] <TheMontyChrist> I'm going to have the same problems w/ 17 I'm sure
[18:37] <generic_> That's why you need to keep up with the versions brother 16.04 rocks
[18:38] <TheMontyChrist> because I'm reading the guest additions video only supports 2.1
[18:38] <TheMontyChrist> this is a vbox limitation
[18:38] <leftyfb> I stick with the LTS versions since they are supported for 5 years
[18:39] <ducasse> TheMontyChrist: have you tried #vbox?
[18:39] <TheMontyChrist> I don't want to use the vbox drivers
[18:40] <TheMontyChrist> I'd like to go back to the "default" drivers
[18:40] <TheMontyChrist> unacellerated is fine
[18:41] <TheMontyChrist> actually, I should just install vbox on an external drive usb.  but it's *soooo slow*
[18:41] <TheMontyChrist> install ubuntu on an external... is what I meant
[18:42] <ducasse> TheMontyChrist: 14.10 is still dead and unsupported, you should upgrade asap. or more likely reinstall.
[18:43] <TheMontyChrist> since I don't know how to downgrade the driver, I guess I'm going to install on external usb drive
[18:43] <ducasse> TheMontyChrist: that's probably a much better option.
[18:47] <Dennis__> Hello :)
[18:47] <Dennis__> Need a little help/support, any one fresh :)
[18:48] <webley> hi
[18:48] <webley> I installed postfix, site config but I cannot find the variable definitions for $mua_client_restriction
[18:48] <webley> htey are not in main.cf
[18:48] <eraggo> !ask
[18:48] <eraggo> oops
[18:49] <Dennis__> Im trying to get AIR vPN to work on ubuntu, but cant seem to figure out the best way to get in and to keep it atying in.
[18:49] <Dennis__> staying*
[18:51] <leftyfb> webley: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html
[18:51] <Dennis__> i have thought about, can i do like on my android, with an openVPN and then get the info-file from AIR VPN and go that way, cause when i install AIR VPN program on ubuntu, i seems like it uninstall every startup.
[18:53] <webley> leftyfb: thanks, but doesn't this also mean that the master.cf in the Ubuntu package is outdated or at least incomplete?
[18:53] <webley> where can I find defaults for it? I like using variables, sure, but why aren't there defaults or at least some notes
[18:53] <leftyfb> webley: it's part of main.cf, not master
[18:53] <webley> without the variables it would be open
[18:53] <Seveas> Dennis__: you can import openvpn configs with nmcli
[18:54] <leftyfb> webley: all the options for it are in the link I gave you. I think all of them tell you what they default to
[18:54] <webley> leftyfb: -o smtpd_client_restrictions=$mua_client_restrictions
[18:54] <webley> leftyfb: that's in the stock master.cf
[18:54] <Seveas> Dennis__: nmcli con import type openvpn file your.openvpn.conf
[18:54] <webley> when I enable it (it is commented out) to get a submission port I also get the warnings
[18:54] <webley> that the variables aren't defined
[18:55] <leftyfb> webley: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_client_restrictions
[18:57] <Dennis__> and the your.openvpn.conf is the AIRVPN client details you mean or?
[18:59] <arya__> hey, I'm facing WiFi issue on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. here are latest logs. https://pastebin.com/Lpy7rz1T per this link (https://pastebin.com/rqQL2pQ3) the last restart was at 00:23 hrs that is when i had to restart my laptop as it was frozen 9(mostly coz of the wifi issue)
[19:01] <speaker1234> I'm trying to install 16.04 server with raid. It keeps failing when installing grub.  I've googled a bit and have found a few references to the problem but no solutions
[19:01] <speaker1234> suggestions for what I should look at?
[19:03] <qswz> I do sudo apt remove --purge postgresql, but I still have /etc/postgresql how could I do?
[19:03] <qswz> manual remobing?
[19:03] <qswz> removing*
[19:04] <ausjke> does WOL work for suspend on 1604? it works for power-off fine, but not so with suspend?
[19:04] <arya__> ubottu: hi, I'm facing WiFi issue on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. here are latest logs. https://pastebin.com/Lpy7rz1T per this link (https://pastebin.com/rqQL2pQ3) the last restart was at 00:23 hrs that is when i had to restart my laptop as it was frozen 9(mostly coz of the wifi issue)
[19:05] <arya__> hi, can anyone help me with the question?
[19:08] <generic_> Arya
[19:08] <generic_> let me see brosky
[19:10] <generic_> Arya what is the driver you are using
[19:10] <arya__> generic_: how do i check it>
[19:10] <arya__> ?
[19:10] <generic_> find the Driver Manager
[19:10] <generic_> and why don't you try to get Ubuntu 16.04
[19:11] <hdon> leftyfb, well, during an incident, i was still able to resolve with host(1) command if i supplied the DNS server which my DHCP server sends to me. I suppose it could be a problem with the DHCP server sending me the right DNS server, but then I would expect both that the incident would last much longer (for an entire lease as opposed to 20 seconds) and that others in the building would be affected
[19:12] <hdon> and thanks to YankDownUnder, wherever he's gone
[19:12] <hdon> ducasse, oh, good idea. i looked briefly but maybe i missed something.
[19:12] <Linuxmeister> Whenever I try boot up into kubuntu it asks to enter in my encryption password and that goes fine but after that it doesn't even reach the login screen just a black screen. Can't alt+f4 into the cli. Anyone have any ideas?
[19:14] <Dennis__> new thought! can i make a VPS of my Gamer pc at home, i mean, setup up a server i can use to run the vpn and then i can connect to that with mobile, laptop etc?
[19:15] <arya__> generic_ : Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[19:17] <arya__> generic_: is this what you wanted?
[19:19] <rushi> hi arya__
[19:20] <MrMeeseeks> arya__ is a girl with no name.
[19:20] <arya__> MrMeeseeks: lol
[19:21] <arya__> EriC^^: hi, do you have time to take a look at my question?
[19:22] <jadesoturi> Hi all.. im running an ubuntu server on an unraid VM instance and when logged in in terminal, im getting a lot of kernel messages form syslogd. I've read around a little and many people attribute them to HW errors(bad memory etc) but the thing is - unraid itself never reports non of this(checked the logs etc). and i have no clue as to how to fix this. i tried suppressing them but they still show.. suggestions? error messages can be seen here:
[19:22] <jadesoturi> https://gist.github.com/37a62761110fbdd8bab2276f16459e6b
[19:24] <jadesoturi> also. for the time being i dont have physical access to the host server, only ssh login, so i am unable to run memtest etc, but its running on an g6 proliant with 48gb ram and a hexacore xeon cpu - purchaes used, but with warranty etc  - i ran some tests after i purchased it and everything seemed fine - havent really had any issues either except the anoying messages that fill up my terminal all the time
[19:25] <MrMeeseeks> arya__: lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[19:25] <MrMeeseeks> you should have a line that says kernel driver in use, that will tell yo uthe driver
[19:25] <MrMeeseeks> have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:26] <arya__> MrMeeseeks: https://pastebin.com/T1eqZnDt
[19:27] <Linuxmeister> I can boot to 4.8 kernel but I can't boot to any kernel higher than that. Anyone know why?
[19:27] <MrMeeseeks> arya__: i would try unloading the driver you are currently using and try a different driver such as wl. that link i sent shows how to do that. modprobe -r currentdriver
[19:28] <MrMeeseeks> then modprobe wl
[19:28] <MrMeeseeks> or the b43 driver
[19:28] <arya__> MrMeeseeks: okay
[19:28] <arya__> MrMeeseeks: let me try that
[19:28] <jv1> hello
[19:29] <Bashing-om> arya__: Keep in mind that broadcom requires a proprietary driver . Maybe re-install the driver ?
[19:29] <Bashing-om> !bcm | arya__
[19:30] <MrMeeseeks> that is quite literally the same link i pasted above
[19:30] <arya__> Bashing-om: okay
[19:30] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: that typically indicates a regression, you can try filing a bug if these are ubuntu kernels
[19:31] <Bashing-om> MrMeeseeks: Yeah . you do good work :)
[19:31] <Linuxmeister> But now I can't boot into anything though
[19:32] <jv1> hello
[19:33] <Linuxmeister> When I booted into the 4.8 I installed the 4.11 kernel thinking that would fix it but now I can't boot into anything now
[19:35] <MrMeeseeks> Linuxmeister: we need context. when you try and boot up what do you see? what happens? do you see grub? what happens after grub?
[19:35]  * virtualriot has a sweetheart
[19:36] <hello> Is it possible to have word of the day wallpaper?
[19:36] <Linuxmeister> It starts up past the bios and then it asks please unlock disk sda3_crypt I enter it in. Success. Wait a few seconds and then it just hangs on a black screen indefinitely
[19:37] <MrMeeseeks> i would try booting up into a live usb and see uf you can mount your sda with your OS on it and check the kernel log.
[19:38] <EriC^^> arya__: sorry, don't know much about wifi stuff
[19:39] <durt> Hey folks, Firefox despite being a dead process won't give up resources, it hangs at 100% cpu and 24% mem. I've sent it a terminate signal and a kill signal and it just sits at the top of top's output with a big ole D next to it. Also 'pkill <firefox's pid>' has also hung in a terminal, but doesn't show in top. Any clues?
[19:39] <Linuxmeister> Booted into the live usb
[19:39] <EriC^^> durt: try pkill -9 firefox
[19:40] <EriC^^> durt: i dont think pkill takes the pid by default fyi
[19:40] <durt> EriC^^, That has also hung another terminal...
[19:41] <EriC^^> hmm
[19:41] <monty_hall> trying to install ubuntu 17 maybe about  after 5 minutes the machine hangs
[19:42] <monty_hall> are there any boot options w/ the live cd install?
[19:43] <Linuxmeister> How do I check the kernel logs?
[19:44] <bekks> Linuxmeister: Just type "dmesg".
[19:44] <bekks> Linuxmeister: Since you are on a live cd, you need to mount your harddisk installation and investigate the logs in /var/log
[19:45] <Linuxmeister> How do I mount the hard drive
[19:46] <bekks> Linuxmeister: By using the mount command. Which will be tricky, since you encrypted everything.
[19:47] <Linuxmeister> This is gunna be fun
[19:47] <Bashing-om> monty_hall: Presemtly, could be any number of things preventing a install . From the live grub boot menu " check disk for defects " say no errors ? then what results when booting up in "try ubuntu" mode ?
[19:49] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: 'cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/whatever crypt_root' 'mount /dev/mapper/crypt_root /mnt' - replace 'whatever' with correct device node.
[19:51] <Linuxmeister> So like sda3 is my main hard drive so I just type that in
[19:51] <bekks> Linuxmeister: Did you encrypt it?
[19:52] <Linuxmeister> Yeah
[19:52] <bekks> So try sda3 then
[19:52] <Linuxmeister> Just says command requires device and mapped name as arguments
[19:53] <bekks> so what exactly did you type?
[19:53] <Linuxmeister> cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3
[19:54] <bekks> that command is missing the "crypt_root" parameter-
[19:54] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: that's not the full command i gave you
[19:55] <Linuxmeister> Oh didn't see the space sorry, and still says /dev/sda3 doesn't exist or access denied
[19:55] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: prefix it with sudo if you're not already in a root shell
[19:56] <Linuxmeister> Cannot use device /dev/sda3 which is is use (already mapped or mounted)
[19:57] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: then look at the 'df' output to see if it is mounted somewhere already. were you prompted for the password on boot?
[19:58] <Linuxmeister> I just rebooted again just to start afresh and the command worked now
[20:00] <Linuxmeister> When I try the second command it says 'unknown file system type 'LVM2_member"
[20:00] <tanis> cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 crypt_root/
[20:00] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: is there anything under /dev/ubuntu-vg ?
[20:01] <someone_> Hi , I want create many files with default text , what is the command for this ?
[20:01] <EriC^^> someone_: all different and random?
[20:02] <Linuxmeister> How do I check?
[20:02] <someone_> EriC^^ no
[20:02] <EriC^^> someone_: what exactly?
[20:02] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: 'ls /dev/ubuntu-vg'
[20:03] <Linuxmeister> Nothing there
[20:03] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: 'ls /dev/mapper'
[20:03] <someone_> for example I want create 1.txt , 2.txt 3.txt with test "Hi" in all
[20:04] <EriC^^> someone_: for i in {0..3}; do echo "Hi" > "$i"; done
[20:04] <Linuxmeister> Under that it says - control, crypt_root, kubuntu--vg-root, kubuntu--vg-swap_1
[20:04] <EriC^^> someone_: for i in {0..3}; do echo "Hi" > "${i}.txt"; done
[20:04] <Ben64> echo "Hi" | tee 1.txt 2.txt 3.txt
[20:04] <tanis> mount /dev/mapper/crypt_root/mnt
[20:05] <someone_> ok thank you
[20:05] <tanis> :)
[20:05] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: sudo mount /dev/mapper/kubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[20:06] <Linuxmeister> Done
[20:06] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: ok, then you should find your root fs under /mnt
[20:06] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: the logs would be in /mnt/var/log
[20:07] <Linuxmeister> What log would I be looking for though
[20:11] <ducasse> try near the end of dmesg and syslog first
[20:11] <rfleming> OHAI!
[20:12] <rfleming> how does GNOME decide which volume to automount and which one not to?
[20:13] <Linuxmeister> Dmseg says nothing
[20:13] <Titan914> Anyone have experience with installing "On Prim Landscape"?
[20:14] <Linuxmeister> And syslog has a few errors
[20:14] <ducasse> Linuxmeister: Bashing-om will help you now, i've got to get some sleep - sorry
[20:14] <Linuxmeister> Thanks for the help though and cya
[20:14] <ducasse> np
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Linuxmeister: Ya in the logs now ?
[20:15] <Linuxmeister> Yeah I am
[20:16] <olhala> hello
[20:17] <olhala> im new here in this chanel
[20:17] <olhala> some one use i3wm interface?
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Linuxmeister: We got an internet connection on that machine to transfer the logs ? What returns ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[20:19] <Linuxmeister> It pings to ubunty
[20:19] <Linuxmeister> Ubuntu
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Linuxmeister: Let's take an easuer one 1st . ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . pass the resulting URL back here .
[20:23] <Bashing-om> easier*
[20:24] <Linuxmeister> Http://termbin.com/jrhs
[20:25] <Bashing-om> Linuxmeister: reading . I be a while .
[20:25] <Linuxmeister> Alrighty
[20:28] <newbsie> I'm having an issue whereby server refuses my key when logging into my Ubuntu Core that is newly setup. Core downloads the public key from SSO, and I put the key on their generated via puttygen, so I have no idea what is wrong. I can't login to check.   Can only kill them one at a time.
[20:35] <leftyfb> ha! the bug is a duplicate anyway :)
[20:36] <svpn> that's one angry bug
[20:37] <nacc> tgm4883: i wonder if that's latino31's response from yesterday? :)
[20:38] <am0nrahx> wtf
[20:39] <pavlushka> Drone` sets ban on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:39] <miczac> silencium!