[00:33] <PrivateVoid> http://www.classroom20.com/group/ubuntu
[00:33] <PrivateVoid> http://community.k12opensource.com/


[01:01] <timClicks> I've think I've found an exception that may need to be made to the string freeze, a ghelp tag is incorrect upstream
[01:02] <timClicks> so, strictly, this doesn't affect the translated text, but it is part of the documentation
[01:02] <timClicks> in the lightsout package, the License section of the help
[01:03] <timClicks> renders "This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
[01:03] <timClicks> the terms of the  gnome-help:gpl..."
[11:21] <mo-germany> I know I already asked this two days ago, but one last try: does anyone know where to send lokalized screenshots for the kubuntu docs
[11:21] <mo-germany> maybe DarkwingDuck? (You worked on it …)
[12:42] <DarkwingDuck> mo-germany:  You can send them to me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Or nixternal<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:44] <mo-germany> DarkwingDuck: Thanks, when’s the deadline? Is it okay if I send them tomorrow?
[15:51] <mo-germany> DarkwingDuck, nixternal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/563903
[15:51] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 563903 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Screenshot in -cli missing (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[15:52] <nixternal> mo-germany: thanks...fixing that now
[15:53] <mo-germany> great, thanks :)
[15:57] <nixternal> fixed
[16:11] <mo-germany> nixternal: small update: K3B screenshot in -audio is missing as well
[17:02] <nixternal> mo-germany: fixed, thanks


[02:21] <drkokandy> Between the snow and the game, there are almost no cars on the road here...
[02:33] <PCLine_> We have Ice here....Did you look in the ditches?
[02:49] <drkokandy> Not really, but we're on pretty flat land here
[02:49] <drkokandy> Not much in the way of ditches
[05:40] <yano> \o/ Buckeyes! \o/
[05:41] <yano> http://thelantern.com/2015/01/buckeyes-run-past-ducks-to-win-first-ever-college-football-playoff-national-championship-42-20/
[05:42] <jenni> [ Buckeyes run past Ducks to win first-ever College Football Playoff National Championship, 42-20 - The Lantern : The Lantern ] - https://j.mp/1FOlAio
[23:00] <PCLine_> Good evening.
[23:04] <Unit193> Howdy.
[23:07] <PCLine_> I think its going to be a long evening with my Internet tonight!  How you doing Unit193
[23:08] <Unit193> Alive, still have coffee.
[23:09] <PCLine_> I could use some coffee tonight!
[23:10] <Unit193> Lost my host, Loki though.
[23:14] <PCLine_> Why did you lose your Host ?
[23:19] <Unit193> I'd think it didn't properly renew it's IP.
[23:24] <PCLine_> Wow - I stayed connected for more then 2 mins.
[23:24] <Unit193> What's going on?
[23:27] <PCLine_> I dont know - started yesterday with the internet but IRC was OK.  Now it seems IRC is disconnecting and Internet is ok.   I have gotten this 'Disconnected (No such device or address)' 6 or 7 times tonight.
[23:27] <PCLine_> Internet = Firefox and GMail
[23:32] <PCLine_> Oh well - Seems to be better now.


[00:00] <kermit> why does he leave at all
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> beats me
[00:08] <tonyyarusso> http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l446iv88Ko1qcqnj1o1_r1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1276816097&Signature=Ev6PmX%2FoTDLLFRWFgz6RVV%2FI%2F7U%3D
[00:08] <sparklehistory> mmm, pizza
[00:11] <tonyyarusso> http://www.mint.com/blog/trends/shutting-the-doors-a-decade-of-bank-failures/?display=wide
[00:13] <sparklehistory> It's like popcorn...first a few kernals pop and then the whole thing goes nuts!
[00:16] <sparklehistory> At least this time around when the banks closed, most of the time the deposits were just transferred to another bank rather than being completely gone and having to be replaced by the FDIC.
[03:21] <h00k> _diablo: myself too :(
[03:21] <_diablo> h00k: I guess we'll have to trust the rest to rep us well enough :)
[03:22] <h00k> _diablo: I talked to Jono briefly, apparently there won't be any podcasts or videos from it :(
[03:22] <_diablo> weird... any reason given?
[03:23] <h00k> no, I didn't ask, he was off to a conference call
[03:23] <_diablo> hmmmm, that's a little worrisome.
[03:24] <_diablo> I get a bit paranoid whenever canonical meets and doesn't make its notes public :)
[03:28]  * tonyyarusso stabs h00k
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> You know python, right?
[03:29] <sparklehistory> tonyyarusso: That's a bit violent ;)
[03:29] <sparklehistory> tonyyarusso: Did you at least do it with a lightsaber or something equally geeky?
[03:40] <_diablo> tonyyarusso: see, it's hard to talk with a dagger in your throat.
[06:02] <h00k> tonyyarusso: what what.
[06:02] <h00k> tonyyarusso: kinda/sure
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> h00k: I'm trying to modify feedparser to understand CAP...
[06:04] <h00k> tonyyarusso: I'm half asleep, what is CAP?
[06:04] <h00k> tonyyarusso: I may be able to assist during the day better tomorrow if you're available
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Common Alerting Protocol
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> It's an XML format for public safety announcements.
[06:06] <h00k> Ooh, gotcha. okay.
[06:07] <h00k> I've done similar feedparsers in php :)
[06:07] <h00k> for instance, twitter, flickr, and lastfm (see anthonyrhook.com)
[06:07] <h00k> and google calendar on another supersecret prokect
[06:07] <h00k> project rather
[06:08] <h00k> tonyyarusso: interesting, I was looking at NOAA feeds and parsing them recently, maybe I'll try with some pythons
[06:10] <h00k> this might be fun.
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> h00k: The goal is to make a Nagios plugin that will check the status of alerts in your area.
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~tonyyarusso/+junk/check_cap
[06:14] <h00k> tonyyarusso: I'd try and help, if applicable
[06:14] <h00k> although, i really need sleep atm
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> http://code.google.com/p/feedparser/issues/detail?id=58 shows a patch that someone else made to add support for a format.
[06:14] <h00k> I can try to check this out tomorrow
[08:21] <Takyoji> Heh http://yizzle.com/whatthehex/
[08:22] <Takyoji> I'm surprisingly quite accurate. xP
[14:45] <h00k> and I'm settled in for the day


[12:55] <shakes808> morning all
[12:55] <shakes808> https://goo.gl/jiP8D5
[12:55] <rick_h> morning
[12:55] <jrwren> good morning
[12:57] <shakes808> this one has a little more information on who will be the guests on the album
[12:57] <shakes808> https://goo.gl/kw3Euv
[13:03] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:04] <cmaloney> I'm making a hard pass on that album
[13:04]  * cmaloney is not a fan of country
[13:06] <jrwren> i threw on some bluegrass recently and my daughter says, "you like country?" in surprise.
[13:10] <shakes808> cmaloney: it is metal version of country songs :)   So really you will be listening to metal
[13:10] <shakes808> jrwren: have you listened to Bella Fleck and the Flecktones?
[13:10] <shakes808> Bassists is Victor Wooten, pretty good.
[13:10] <shakes808> try the song - Sinister Minister
[13:11] <jrwren> shakes808: yes.
[13:11] <jrwren> shakes808: also, bella fleck is guest player on MANY albums.
[13:11] <shakes808> seen them at Bonnaroo and they were pretty good
[13:11] <jrwren> Bella is one of the greats.
[13:11] <shakes808> His banjo playing is pretty good :)
[13:11] <jrwren> yup.
[13:12] <jrwren> he tours with Sam Bush and appears on his album, IIRC
[13:12] <shakes808> cool
[13:13] <jrwren> its possible Bela was the bjano player in Lyle Lovett's large band when I saw them 17yrs ago :)
[13:13] <shakes808> haha, nice.
[13:13] <jrwren> really great show and NIckel Creek opened for them. That was my introduction to Nickel Creek. Their first album had not been out for very long
[13:13] <shakes808> can't go wrong with a little banjo and mandolin :)
[13:13] <shakes808> haven't heard of Nickel Creek
[13:14] <shakes808> I will check them out
[13:14] <jrwren> or well, now that i see their wikipedia page i'm reminded of their albums as children.
[13:14] <jrwren> but their first major album hadn't been out long :)
[13:14] <jrwren> oh man, you are in for a treat, especially if you like fusion.
[13:14] <cmaloney> I'm familiar with Bela Fleck
[13:15] <jrwren> The first Nickel Creek album is straight up youths playing classic bluegrass, but each album moves a little further from that.
[13:15] <shakes808> jrwren: love fusion :)
[13:15] <cmaloney> He's one of the few bluegrass / banjo artists I can tolerate for an entire album.
[13:15] <shakes808> cmaloney: HAHA
[13:15] <jrwren> The last album always had me thinking I was listening something in the style of Radiohead, but with bluegrass instruments. I love it, and I don't like radiohead.
[13:16] <jrwren> oh sheesh, i should have read their wikipedia page. NOW I find out that one of "their" songs I know is actually a pavement cover. lol
[13:17] <cmaloney> https://www.dropbox.com/s/s46esj5193z7l34/Screenshot%20from%202017-05-03%2009%3A16%3A54.png?dl=0 <- Bela Fleck albums I have
[13:18] <jrwren> Tales From the Accoustic Planet is classic
[13:19] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's an awesome album
[13:21] <shakes808> yeah, that is the one that I have
[13:21] <shakes808> what about widespread panic?
[13:22] <shakes808> not bluegrass but mountain / jam band -esk
[22:39] <cmaloney> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/33625453033/ <- rick_h You have some esplainin' to do
[22:42] <rick_h> cmaloney: hah well more photography and doing some video editing means on the mac.
[22:42] <cmaloney> tut tut
[22:43] <greg-g> obligatory photo of the keyboard being DSC_00001 :)
[22:43] <rick_h> https://youtu.be/Uq-ctcAgV5w
[22:44] <cmaloney> rick_h: Nice!
[22:44] <rick_h> greg-g: lol yea


[20:07] <bjf> cmagine, i'm pretty sure we asked if we need to only fast track Trusty and was told yes


[04:33] <mup> Bug #1847533 changed: `Failed to retrieve curtin config: curtin_userdata` on deploy after manipulating APT repos in UI <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847533>


[00:20] <PatrikOlsson> I'm going to bed now, I would really appreciate if someone would spend two seconds looking at the question!
[00:20] <PatrikOlsson> I just want to contribute
[01:00] <stgraber> sforshee: so, it looks like my laptop is a brick... I tried pulling the battery, memory, hdd, ... nothing helped
[01:00] <PatrikOlsson> nvm, good night
[01:00] <stgraber> sforshee: but it reminded me of the Samsung UEFI issue, I believe it's the first time I get a real panic on that machine
[01:00] <stgraber> sforshee: and my understanding is that we dump the panic to nvram now with new kernels
[01:00] <stgraber> sforshee: could it be that doing this somehow breaks Lenovo laptops?
[01:01] <stgraber> mjg59: ^ (thinkpad x230, 3.8 kernel on UEFI, kernel panic, won't show me anything since)
[07:24] <ppisati> moin
[08:02] <smb> ppisati, again ... bah! ;-P
[08:02] <ppisati> smb: what? :)
[08:03] <smb> ppisati, morning
[09:12]  * apw yawns
[09:53] <xnox> I see some references that "[PATCH] block: replace __getblk_slow misfix by grow_dev_page fix" made it all the way back to oneiric. Can somebody check if that patch is in precise generic kernels and up as well?
[09:53]  * xnox is struggling to find commit id
[10:02] <apw> ommit 7e9433b5394fd935dd6ea01dff601f23300aff83
[10:02] <apw> Author: Hugh Dickins<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:02] <apw> Date:   Thu Aug 23 12:17:36 2012 +0200
[10:02] <apw>     block: replace __getblk_slow misfix by grow_dev_page fix
[10:02] <apw>
[10:02] <apw>     BugLink: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1049899
[10:02] <apw>
[10:02] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1049899 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "Precise update to 3.2.29 stable release" [Medium,Fix released]
[10:02] <apw>     commit 676ce6d5ca3098339c028d44fe0427d1566a4d2d upstream.
[10:02] <apw> xnox, that is from precises
[10:06] <xnox> apw: awesome, thanks.
[10:09] <apw> xnox, and that was in Ubuntu-3.2.0-32.51
[10:35] <cking> apw, http://www.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver
[10:54] <henrix> apw: unless you're already on it, i'll apply herton's i915 patch into master-next so that i can start the respin
[10:55] <apw> henrix, you go ahead
[10:55] <henrix> apw: ack
[10:55] <apw> henrix, so we are respinning for it ?
[10:55] <henrix> apw: well, that's a nasty regression and its affecting lots of people it seems
[10:56] <apw> henrix, i cannot deny your logic
[10:56] <henrix> heh
[10:56] <apw> i was leaning that way myself
[10:56] <apw> henrix, as this is the P kerenl it isn't on the P point release CDs in fact is it
[10:57] <henrix> apw: no, this kernel won't be the one on the .2
[10:57] <apw> henrix, great, no panic then
[10:58] <henrix> apw: anyway, i'm going to prep everything, do all the testing etc, and leave it to brad to take the final decision ;)
[11:01] <apw> henrix, an even better plan :)
[12:14] <ogra_> apw, rtg, there is a new android release for nexus7 ... (not sure if it has a new kernel or wheer the source is though)
[12:14] <rtg> ogra_, I can look.
[12:14] <ogra_> it seems to add some stability acccording to the tests ... though i'm not sure if there is anything kernel related
[12:15] <rtg> ogra_, when was the update released ? I don't remember having to update my unit recently .
[12:15] <ogra_> beginning of the week, but not released in all countries yet
[12:16] <ogra_> (i would have assumed the US being the first one though)
[12:16] <rtg> yeah
[12:26] <rtg> ogra_, there don't appear to be any kernel updates in the google repo
[12:28] <ogra_> well, it is supposed to have some BT fixes
[12:28] <ogra_> not sure if thats in userspace or kernel though
[12:28] <rtg> maybe they don't push them right away
[12:29] <ogra_> if google would only allow me to search in english ...
[12:29] <ogra_> sigh
[12:30] <apw> ogra_, add something like ?hl=en to the end of the google URL
[12:30] <ogra_> (there used to be a "only english results" button for non natives ... )
[12:30] <ogra_> oh, thanks !
[12:30] <apw> it is something like that
[12:31] <jpds> apw: That only changes the interface language.
[12:33] <apw> jpds, hmmm i guess ogra_ can let us know :)
[12:33] <ogra_> hmm ?
[12:33] <ogra_> oh, i get english results now mixed with some few german ones
[12:33] <ogra_> (didnt attach it to the end but edited it in the url)
[12:34] <jpds> ogra_: Genau.
[12:39] <ogra_> hmm, https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images doesnt have a 4.2.2 image yet
[12:39] <ogra_> so i guess you are right, they will roll out the ota ones first
[14:15] <herton> apw, there is someone reporting a mismerge on an overlayfs patch on quantal, bug 1122094
[14:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1122094 in linux (Ubuntu) "[patch] fix improper merge with overlayfs." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1122094
[14:24] <apw> herton, ok thanks
[14:36] <apw> herton, it does look wrongo, quite how we ever get away with it, i am unsure
[14:41] <herton> apw, yes, henrix and I also took a quick look and seems wrong, perhaps we got away as it most affects the error path in nameidata_to_filp, error returned probably is uncommon
[14:49] <apw> yep
[14:49] <shadeslayer> hi, after installing fglrx I get : http://paste.kde.org/670244/
[14:50] <shadeslayer> any advice?
[14:51] <apw> shadeslayer, never seen that before, it looks on the face of it to be a bug in modprobe
[14:51] <shadeslayer> apw: I see bug reports on LP about this
[14:51] <shadeslayer> bug 1073062
[14:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1073062 in kmod (Ubuntu) "modprobe: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073062
[14:52] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/670292/
[14:52] <shadeslayer> full log ^
[14:53] <apw> i would regenerate the initramsfs again and see if it works
[14:54] <apw> update-initramfs -u
[14:55] <shadeslayer> apw: nope, same issue
[14:56] <apw> tseliot, ^^ seen anything like this in your testing?
[14:59] <tseliot> apw: yes but only when the module can't build against the kernel
[15:00] <apw> tseliot, thanks
[15:00] <shadeslayer> tseliot: well ... as I can see, the module does build
[15:00] <shadeslayer> or maybe I'm reading it wrong?
[15:00] <apw> shadeslayer, what does 'grep off /etc/modprobe.d/*' say
[15:00] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1644200/
[15:01] <apw> /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx.conf:alias radeon off
[15:01] <apw> /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx.conf:alias lbm-radeon off
[15:01] <tseliot> shadeslayer: also the output of "dkms status" might help
[15:01] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1644202/
[15:01] <apw> ok according to the debian bug it is those (added by fgrlx) which kill kmod
[15:02] <tseliot> apw: how?
[15:02] <apw> tseliot, it is broken
[15:02] <apw> tseliot, it does not understand off
[15:03] <apw> (seemingly)
[15:03] <tseliot> apw: that would be a major issue
[15:03] <apw> and one i would have thought someone would a
[15:03] <apw> have noticed before now, given we have been using kmod for all of raring i think
[15:04] <tseliot> right
[15:05] <tseliot> maybe I should update my testing box again...
[15:13] <apw> shadeslayer, ok for now i would try converting those two 'off's to be blacklist <foo> and see if you can build an initrd ok
[15:13] <apw> shadeslayer, i will look into this in a bit
[15:14] <shadeslayer> apw: ack
[15:14] <shadeslayer> works :)
[15:15] <apw> shadeslayer, i am unsure if that is enough to prevent it loading on reboot, it _should_ be
[15:38]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:43] <BenC>  /srv/ubuntu/linux-ppc-3.8.0/ubuntu/alx/alx_main.c:239:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘vzalloc’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
[15:44] <BenC> rtg: This compiled for you guys everywhere else?
[15:44] <rtg> BenC, nope. in fact we disabled it for PPC, as should you
[15:45] <rtg> BenC, PPC in Quantal I mean
[15:46] <BenC> Ah, ok, I'll disable it
[15:49] <BenC> rtg: Seems like an easy fix though (add some #include's)
[15:50] <rtg> BenC, upstream is git://github.com/erikarn/alx.git. perhaps you could send 'em a patch.
[15:51] <rtg> so far this device only exists on x86'en platforms
[15:51] <BenC> I might…pretty low on my priority
[16:10] <kamal> BenC, rtg: I'll take care of that (fixing and submitting patch to alx upstream) if you like.    now to find a PPC build machine . . .
[16:11] <BenC> kamal: send me the patch, and I'll test it
[16:11] <BenC> kamal: I can send you the full error log if you want
[16:12] <kamal> BenC: sure<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:12] <BenC> kamal: Ok, give me a bit to get back to that point after this upload
[16:12] <kamal> BenC: no rush, I've got plenty of stuff to break in the meantime
[16:13] <kamal> on that note ...
[16:14] <kamal> rtg: do you remember that day when I broke everybody's backlight?
[16:14] <rtg> quite thirstily :)
[16:14] <kamal> oh.   dang.
[16:14] <kamal> well anyway ...    that was a fun day, right?   wanna do that again?
[16:15] <rtg> only if I know there is free beer in it for me.
[16:15] <kamal> there's a small i915 patch (really, very small -- couldn't hurt a fly its so cute) that is pending in drm-intel-fixes-nightly ...   I'm not sure whether it'll make it in before 3.9.
[16:15] <kamal> so . . .   can I have it in raring pretty please?
[16:16] <apw> kamal, if you want a patch you know where to send it ... :)
[16:16] <rtg> submitted on the k-team list yet ?
[16:16] <kamal> apw: hush, I'm just trying to warm rtg up first
[16:17] <kamal> I'll be submitting it to k-team shortly.   yes, I agree in advance to whatever beer ransom you deem appropriate.
[17:19] <apw> herton, on that overlayfs thing, i have posted test kernels for him, as he can tickle the issue
[17:22] <rtg> ogra_, is the N7 image from today broken ? I can see Plymouth doing its thing, then the display goes dark. Plugging into the serial console works but I can't login since I have yet to setup a user.
[17:23] <ogra_> rtg, hmm, there are issues, but nothing that should prevent you from installing
[17:23] <rtg> ogra_, I've done it twice. would battery charge have any impact ? Mine might have been pretty low
[17:24] <herton> apw, ack thanks
[17:24] <ogra_> battery has surely some impact , i have seen the writing of images fail before due to it
[17:25] <ogra_> but you got beyond that step, it sounds more like ubiquity being evil to you or so
[17:25] <rtg> well, I'll let it charge for an hour then try again
[17:54] <rtg> apw, ogasawara: any patches pending for raring ? I'm thinking I'll upload in order to get kamal's backlight fix out there.
[17:55] <apw> rtg, nothing i can think of
[17:55] <ogasawara> rtg: nothing here
[17:55] <rtg> ok then
[18:25]  * rtg -> lunch
[19:05] <plars> bjf, rtg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1124415
[19:05] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1124415 in linux (Ubuntu) "Network installation fails with ahci" [Undecided,New]
[19:06] <rtg> plars, ack
[19:18]  * bjf[afk] -> lunch
[20:00] <sforshee> stgraber, I just noticed the messages from you in my backscroll, yikes
[20:01] <marvin24> dumb question: how to disable certain arch from kernel builds?
[20:02] <stgraber> sforshee: yeah... waiting for Lenovo to come replace the system board...
[20:02] <stgraber> sforshee: so that kernel test will have to wait a few days ;)
[20:03] <sforshee> my first suspicion would be that trying to store the panic messages triggered some firmware bug
[20:04] <stgraber> yeah. I don't think it's the first panic I had on that machine since I moved to the 3.8 kernel, but it can certainly depend on the size of the dump or maybe what's already in nvram
[20:04] <sforshee> do you happen to remember any details about where the panic happened?
[20:05] <sforshee> unfortunately there seem to be a lot of uefi bugs that are triggered by writing to nvram
[20:06] <stgraber> sforshee: sadly my memory isn't that good and the laptop was overheating so I didn't wait long before removing the battery to get it to cool. The only thing I remember was that it wasn't bluetooth related (I had a couple of those lately so that's I remember quickly going through the stack looking for bluetooth stuff and not seeing any)
[20:07] <stgraber> sforshee: do we have some kind of boot flag to turn off that feature (writing to nvram on panic)? because I don't want to end up bricking my replacement laptop ;)
[20:07] <sforshee> stgraber, okay. Just wondering whether it was related to my changes or not.
[20:07] <sforshee> not sure...
[20:07] <sforshee> and that's assuming that writing the panic to nvram was the cause
[20:08] <sforshee> I have a hard time believing that anything I changed could brick a machine though
[20:08] <stgraber> sadly as I want it fixed ASAP, I doubt this machine will end in the hands of anyone who actually knows what they are doing, so it's very unlikely we'll ever get to see a dump of the nvram or any kind of firmware debug data...
[20:10] <jsalisbury> rtg, bug 1124373 sounds like there may be an issue with the linux-firmware package in the preicse repository
[20:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1124373 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "linux-firmware unexpected EOF in archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124373
[20:13] <sforshee> stgraber, we can certainly disable writing the dump to nvram by disabling CONFIG_PSTORE, still not sure if there's some command-line option we can use
[20:14] <jsalisbury> rtg, I'll try to confirm the issue, but just wanted to give you a heads up.
[20:15] <stgraber> sforshee: it'd be unfortunate that we'd have to do that because the feature is kind of cool and useful... it sucks that we can't really check to be sure that it's indeed the problem...
[20:15] <stgraber> sforshee: well, I guess we could get similar certification machines and trigger panics in a loop (with panic=1 so the machine reboots), wait a day or so and see if we get any bricked ones... :)
[20:17] <sforshee> stgraber, that's an option
[20:18] <rtg> jsalisbury, I just pulled from the archive and unpacked OK.
[20:18] <rtg> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-firmware/linux-firmware_1.79.1_all.deb
[20:18] <sforshee> stgraber, I'm pretty sure I heard some talk of tests involving filling up nvram, maybe that was wrt fwts
[20:19] <jsalisbury> rtg, Thanks for confirming it's ok.  I'll follow up on the bug.   I guess we could have something like that in fwts and maybe something that simulates what the kernel does on panic (if simply filling the nvram doesn't essentially do the same thing)
[20:20] <rtg> jsalisbury, just added https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1124373/comments/5
[20:20] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1124373 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "linux-firmware unexpected EOF in archive" [High,Triaged]
[20:20] <jsalisbury> rtg, great, thanks
[20:21] <ohsix> wasn't it tracked down to samsung using fake menu labels to do internal things? and when a proper user came by, it fell apart
[20:21] <mjg59> No, that's unrelated
[20:21] <ohsix> ok :>
[20:21] <mjg59> I'd look into that, except this Samsung is dead
[20:22] <ohsix> what were the nvram-y things related to?
[20:22] <mjg59> The nvram-y things
[20:22] <stgraber> mjg59: you don't have some Lenovo around by any chance to see if you can reproduce what happened on my laptop yesterday? ;)
[20:22] <ohsix> so nothing in particular
[20:22] <mjg59> stgraber: I've been running UEFI on Lenovos for about two years
[20:22] <mjg59> stgraber: They're what I wrote the EFI pstore code on
[20:23] <mjg59> stgraber: So I'm not immediately convinced that this is the problem
[20:23] <stgraber> mjg59: ok, so hopefully it was an unrelated issue that bricked my laptop yesterday after a kernel panic (x230)
[20:23] <mjg59> I'd hope so
[20:23] <mjg59> I mean, it could have been a kernel panic caused by bad hardware
[20:23] <mjg59> But yeah it's a concern
[20:23] <mjg59> I guess I can try filling the storage on this and see if it still boots
[20:24] <mjg59> I think I've got on-site...
[20:24] <stgraber> I'd been using it for UEFI/SB testing since September or so (got it right after Plumbers), I had a few panics but the fatal one was yesterday after testing a brightness fix from sforshee (3.8)
[20:26] <stgraber> so if it's the panic that triggered it, it must be a pretty specific bug (depending on the size of the dump or similar) and so will be a real pain to reproduce (especially as I don't have some magic way of getting the content of the nvram from the bricked unit)
[20:26] <stgraber> anyway, I'm glad I paid extra for quick warranty service on this one (and that I have a Lenovo service center a block away from here)
[20:31]  * rtg -> EOD
[20:49]  * ogasawara lunch


[01:34] <james_w`> jcastro, FYI http://paste.ubuntu.com/600534/ so you know how long changes should take to show up
[02:03] <jcastro> james_w`: thanks!
[02:12] <duanedesign> jcastro: ping
[02:33] <jcastro> duanedesign: pong
[02:40] <doctormo> Drat, I'm getting frustrated with my computer (system76 p') not being able to run first ubuntu 10.10 and now 11.04.
[02:40] <doctormo> I need help guys, I don't know where to turn to get this sorted now that it's been going on for more than one cycle.
[02:41] <jcastro> doctormo: did you talk to S76?
[02:41] <jcastro> they're pretty awesome about this sort of thing
[02:42] <doctormo> jcastro: Yes, they're confused and can't reproduce it on their intel graphics versions. I think it's an nvidia problem.
[02:47] <doctormo> I suppose if I upgrade instead of doing a fresh install, then I can keep my 2.6.32 kernel and bleach the 2.6.38 kernel away.
[02:48] <doctormo> But I think that would be bad for a long term solution.
[02:53] <duanedesign> hello jcastro. I was returning your ping from the other day.
[02:54] <duanedesign> jcastro: you might of been returning my ping from a few days before?  :)
[02:54] <duanedesign> or did you need something else?
[02:56] <duanedesign> jcastro: I had someone ask me about the lightning talks and when and how they sign up for them.
[02:58] <jcastro> oh right
[02:58] <jcastro> I needed you to check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity/13821#13821
[02:58] <jcastro> and see if it still applies and edit accordingly
[02:58] <jcastro> I'm linking to it as "how to make launchers manually" sort of
[02:58] <jcastro> so you can probably lose the ref to the bug, etc. or whatever
[03:02] <duanedesign> jcastro: I can do that
[03:33] <mhall119> I just noticed the blue corner in Unity, when an app in the launcher needs your attention
[03:33] <mhall119> that's nice
[03:33] <mhall119> thought it was a graphics problem at first though
[03:42] <duanedesign> ahhhh, that is what that is :)
[05:13] <nigelb> Good Morning!
[07:11] <akgraner> nigelb, shhhh...don't say that  I haven't even found my pillow yet  - it can't be morning...
[07:12] <Pendulum> akgraner: you have my sympathy. I found my pillow and then it didn't want me anymore after 2 hours so I'm up at least for now :(
[07:12] <akgraner> I've been there as well
[07:13] <akgraner> I'm trying to put the finishing touches on 90 minutes of screen casts
[07:14] <akgraner> and I drove 3.5 hours to the release party in chapel hill, but wait til you see the awesome-est cake in the whole world though...
[07:14] <Pendulum> haha
[07:14] <akgraner> it had narwhal's and the ubuntu logo on it in orange over a layer of purple...
[07:14] <akgraner> it was cool
[07:15] <Pendulum> :)
[07:15] <akgraner> (yeah yeah - I got a think for cake)
[07:15] <akgraner> becca rode with me - and we had a blast
[07:15] <Pendulum> ooh, if I'm up maybe I'll go colour in my narwhal since I didn't get to it yesterday
[07:16] <Pendulum> (I bought a colouring book at the NE Aquarium on Saturday purely because one of the pictures to colour was a narwhal!)
[07:16] <akgraner> I just decided to pop in here as I am taking a break...people like duanedesign jcastro popey et all make screencasting seem as smooth as butter
[07:16] <akgraner> Pendulum, nice!
[07:17] <akgraner> I finally figure out how to stop and start record my desktop using the keyboard and not the mouse though
[07:17] <akgraner> that's a win for me!
[07:17] <Pendulum> :)
[07:19] <akgraner> So I am planning for UDS - trying to think of the best way to take community questions for the interviews I'll be doing...
[07:19] <akgraner> the video ones...
[07:20] <akgraner> I want to hear what other people want to know about and stuff - and say now so-and-so this questions comes from ...then ask the question etc
[07:20] <akgraner> thought it might be a fun twist on things
[07:46] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <akgraner> dholbach, there you go too putting good in front of that dreadful word "morning" ;-p
[07:48] <akgraner> dholbach, just kidding :-)
[07:49] <dholbach> :)
[07:49] <dholbach> hey akgraner
[07:49] <akgraner> dholbach, hey!  I haven't swapped "howdy's" with you in what seems like ages...
[07:51] <dholbach> how's life over there? :)
[07:53] <akgraner> dholbach, pretty good - just busy til after UDS
[07:53] <dholbach> yeah, I can imagine
[07:54] <akgraner> but I can't wait to be at UDS - and um - this time you are on my list to interview (heads up)
[07:54] <dholbach> great :)
[07:57] <akgraner> The Novacut folks said they would film interviews in addition to the other video folks who film the sessions...
[07:58] <akgraner> so there should be at least double the amount of interviews we were able to do for UDS-M  (the UDS-N I don't count as I barely remember it)
[07:59] <dholbach> it's going to be awesome
[08:00] <akgraner> yep...and I think the Linux New Media folks coming from Germany will have equipment there as well
[08:02] <nigelb> bah, flaky internets :(
[08:24] <jussi> I am so going to hurt someone at HP.
[08:25] <jussi> WHy, why why... whyare the for flaming partitions on a factory install? how the heck do I dual boot with this setup?
[08:26] <jussi> why are there four*
[08:26]  * jussi headdesks
[08:28] <akgraner> rut roh I've never seen jussi resort to violence ...
[08:28] <jussi> akgraner: the stress is getting to me :/
[08:28] <akgraner> sounds like a very serious matter :-)
[08:29] <jussi> yes, Im attempting to install kubuntu on a laptop for a work colleague.
[08:29] <akgraner> hehe if only that were my excuse for violence ;-)  (I'll try that next time I want to reach through the computer to choke someone)
[08:29] <jussi> hehe
[08:30] <jussi> Here Natty Natty Natty....
[08:30] <akgraner> HAHA
[08:31] <jussi> btw, did I meantion that in finnish the word for "pretty" is "nätti"?
[08:32] <akgraner> not to me - that's cool though
[08:33] <akgraner> oh btw speaking of FInnish words  - my daughter wants to know all the cool swear words
[08:34] <akgraner> and she and my son both now have irc nicks as they have computers with Ubuntu on them and I told her they have to participate in the community to get help
[08:37] <jussi> LOL. are they coming to UDS again?
[08:37] <jussi> akgraner: tell them they can join us in #ubuntu-fi-en :D
[08:38] <jussi> *G*
[08:39] <akgraner> jussi, not this time
[08:39] <jussi> awww
[08:40] <akgraner> maybe Orlando  - I just have to send a note to the school saying I am pulling the out for a week for educational purposes and they have to submit a report of what they learned and give a talk to the student body about what all they learned
[08:41] <jussi> yeah, that would be cool :)
[08:41] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:41] <akgraner> so I thought it would be an awesome what to introduce Ubuntu to the school with the school's blessing
[08:41] <akgraner> czajkowski, howdy!
[08:41] <jussi> would be nice to have some young people with different views in the sessions
[08:43] <dpm> morning all
[08:43] <AlanBell> morning
[08:43] <AlanBell> good job we booked a bank holiday for today
[08:44] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:44] <topyli> national post-release-party recovery day?
[08:44] <akgraner> jussi, I hope they start getting involved
[08:45] <AlanBell> topyli: yup, the Natty public holiday
[08:45] <topyli> we need to get that sanctioned by the UN
[08:48] <AlanBell> some of our royals decided to use the opportunity of the Natty holiday to book a wedding
[08:48] <jussi> call it the "post release holiday" then we can have it 2x a year :D
[08:52] <akgraner> International Ubuntu Release Week - let's take a whole week off and just celebrate!
[08:53] <topyli> count me in
[08:53]  * topyli erases calendar
[08:54] <Tm_T> if I could get few hours free... but no
[09:55] <duanedesign> morning all
[10:14] <nigelb> hey duanedesign
[10:15] <nigelb> hello AlanBell and others watching the royal wedding :p
[10:15]  * nigelb runs
[10:22] <jussi> oh windows, I do hate you and your updates on shutdown with no way to cancel installing them once they have started....
[10:24] <dholbach> jussi, press the 'reset' button :)
[10:24] <jussi> dholbach: but wont that bork the windows system? (and there is no reset, its a laptop)
[10:24] <dholbach> it might indeed bork the windows system
[10:25] <jussi> exactly. unfortunately I need this sytem to work with both windows and Ubuntu
[10:30] <duanedesign> its time for a confession, in the form of a question. Am I the only one watching the royal wedding?
[10:31]  * jussi coughs suspiciously
[10:31] <duanedesign> ;)
[10:33] <jussi> duanedesign: Im not actively watching, just glancing from time to time.
[10:33] <jussi> I am actually supposed to be working
[10:34] <popey> akgraner: had a great chat with you husband at the London release party last night :)
[10:59]  * czajkowski prods popey
[10:59] <popey> morning
[11:00] <popey> why aren't you lining the streets czajkowski !
[11:01] <czajkowski> on the couch trying to work the complicated set up of jons tv
[11:01] <czajkowski> :(
[11:01] <czajkowski> one remote controls billions of things
[11:01] <czajkowski> cant turn on the flpping tv only the mac mini
[11:01] <czajkowski> whhhhooooooo
[11:02] <czajkowski> worked it
[11:36] <vish> duanedesign: http://twitter.com/#!/Casablanca/status/63912375522312192
[11:36] <vish> ;)
[11:37] <duanedesign> vish: ha!
[11:38] <duanedesign> vish: chewbaca did not get a medal did he?
[11:38] <vish> duanedesign: yea, i dont think he did
[11:38] <duanedesign> he did get the final line in the movie :)
[11:42] <jussi> hahahaah, epic! http://i.imgur.com/K9jIy.jpg
[11:43] <popey> brilliant
[11:49] <popey> akgraner: \o/ got my screencast setup working!
[11:54] <nigelb> jussi: hehe
[12:22] <cjohnston> mornin
[13:00] <akgraner> hey y'all how do I move an icon on the launcher?
[13:00] <akgraner> I want them in a different order?
[13:03] <popey> hold down on it, pull it away, let go
[13:03] <popey> or right click and untick keep in launcher
[13:04] <akgraner> I want to stay in the launcher
[13:04] <akgraner> I just want the icons in a different order :-)
[13:04] <akgraner> do you have to de-select keep in launcher to move it
[13:04] <akgraner> well nm if you de-select it without it running it goes away - DOH
[13:06] <akgraner> good grief - if I open an app lock it in the launcher then close it reopen it unlock it close then try to open and minimize it then he doesnt show up in the launcher at all
[13:07] <akgraner> I have to use a different app or restart my machine to show how to lock and unlock apps in the launcher
[13:07] <akgraner> popey, hold down on it - ummm what do you mean by that
[13:08] <akgraner> left click, right click both ???
[13:08] <akgraner> oh I see
[13:08] <popey> long press
[13:08] <popey> left mouse button
[13:08] <akgraner> gotit
[13:08] <akgraner> thanks!
[13:09] <akgraner> brb I have to restart my computer...grrrr
[13:25] <akgraner> popey I figured out how to stop and start the record my desktop using the keyboard - yay!
[13:26] <akgraner> the commands in the help guide were right for starting but not for stopping
[13:37] <popey> :)
[13:37] <akgraner> wanna see the coolest Ubuntu cake :-)
[13:38] <akgraner> http://www.flickr.com/photos/52422536@N00/5667502209/in/photostream/
[13:38] <akgraner> this was our cake for the release party last night
[13:39] <popey> sweet
[13:39] <akgraner> it was
[13:39] <akgraner> the cake was chocolate with 5 layers...
[13:49] <akgraner> um does anyone know what team Matthias Klose works on at Canonical
[13:49] <akgraner> and what his title might be?
[13:51] <akgraner> LP nor his wiki page tell me anything  :-(
[13:55] <akgraner> does syncs with unstable mean debian unstable?
[13:56] <popey> yes
[13:56] <Pici> likely
[13:56] <akgraner> ok thanks...
[13:56] <popey> for LTS we sync'ed with debian testing
[13:56] <popey> but normally we sync with unsbale
[13:56] <Pici> unusable?
[13:57] <popey> haha
[13:57] <popey> debian unusable :)
[13:58] <akgraner> and GCC =GNU Compiler Collection
[13:58] <popey> ya
[14:26] <james_w`> jcastro, FYI summit import from LP is broken again
[14:26] <james_w`> somehow there seem to be duplicate users
[14:26] <jcastro> ugh
[14:27] <jcastro> james_w`: we did empty the huge backlog at least
[14:27] <james_w`> yeah
[14:27] <james_w`> looking in to it now
[14:37] <jcastro> Technoviking: O is open! WE WANT O FORUM WE WANT O FORUM
[14:39]  * akgraner refrains from all the jokes I have collect so far about this being an "O" cycle
[14:40] <akgraner> s/collect/collected even
[14:49] <akgraner> Check it out my LoCo team is loco enough to hand me a big ass knife and let me cut that cake...http://www.flickr.com/photos/squishy/5669613906/in/photostream/
[14:54] <topyli> that look says "muhahaha you poor people don't know what you got into"
[14:55] <akgraner> hehe :-) I tried to warn them...
[14:55] <akgraner> but they gave it to me anyway ;-)
[14:56] <topyli> that cake looks awesome
[14:57] <akgraner> it was :-)
[15:00] <jcastro> akgraner: someone needs to rotoscope in a lightsaber
[15:00] <akgraner> haha
[15:30] <mhall119> akgraner: your FB comment question "What Unity feature do you like the most" should be get an Ubuntu  User status message for comments
[15:32] <akgraner> mhall119, I'm sorry I'm not following you?
[15:32] <akgraner> you mean post it as a status
[15:32] <akgraner> and not just a reply to a comment
[15:48] <Technoviking> jcastro: keep your pants on:)
[15:53] <Technoviking> bets on how many thousands of times I misspell oneiric in the next 6 months.
[15:55]  * czajkowski yawns
[15:57] <jcastro> Technoviking: "one eyed rick"
[15:58] <Technoviking> jcastro: heh, I want to change my nick to that
[15:58] <Technoviking> jcastro: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=403 and I put it on the front page \o/
[15:59] <mhall119> akgraner: yeah
[15:59] <jcastro> Technoviking: I am tempted to post "I still hate unity and plymouth"
[16:00] <mhall119> jcastro: http://imagebin.org/150797
[16:00] <Technoviking> jcastro: I tempted to post "Will the button move back to the right"
[16:01] <jcastro> mhall119: YEAH!
[16:01] <jcastro> jono: here's what we've been doing all day: http://imagebin.org/150797
[16:01] <jcastro> just kidding we're working.
[16:01] <jono> jcastro, lol
[16:02] <popey> haha
[16:02] <mhall119> if anybody asks, jcastro gave me a high level request that demanded my immediate attention
[16:02] <jcastro> "I had to stop working on summit to do this"
[16:02] <jcastro> speaking of james_w`
[16:02] <mhall119> and a full 20 minutes was just decided whether I should make it green or red
[16:03] <jcastro> james_w`: where would dupe names come from? is it from people making new lp accounts and signing up to blueprints?
[16:04] <jcastro> james_w`: also, your conflict resolution with the summits seems to be totally working
[16:05] <jcastro> nigelb: we just need the CSS color fix for the server track and we're good to go
[16:06] <mhall119> jcastro: and the guidebook branch needs to be landed, if it hasn't already
[16:07] <jcastro> ok
[16:07] <jcastro> mhall119: do you have proper rights for the machine now?
[16:07] <czajkowski> *yawns*
[16:08] <james_w`> jcastro, it's not duped people, but duped attendees somehow
[16:08] <james_w`> I don't know how, but I know how to fix it
[16:09] <jcastro> ok
[16:09] <jcastro> james_w`: also, plenary-o-ubuntuserver doesn't show up on the sidebar
[16:09] <jcastro> It's set like all the other plenaries
[16:09] <jcastro> I can't figure out what's going on there
[16:11] <jcastro> jono: joey: I'm about to start the UDS Scheduling status report to send to -devel and linaro leads, anything you'd like to hammer on other than my usual bits?
[16:11] <mhall119> jcastro: supposedly
[16:12] <mhall119> cjohnston: ping
[16:16] <james_w`> I can't get to chinstrap currently, so can't do anything requiring shell on summit :-(
[16:17] <james_w`> there we go, complain about it and it works :-)
[16:23] <Technoviking> retweet: https://twitter.com/#!/Technoviking/statuses/63984067812663296
[16:41] <james_w`> yo, jcastro, everything is flowing again
[16:42] <james_w`> however, the autoscheduler doesn't deal with conflicts
[16:47] <jcastro> james_w`: which conflicts?
[16:47] <james_w`> jcastro, look at Tuesday, or the linaro-toolchain track
[16:47] <jcastro> oh that's fine
[16:47] <jcastro> track leads know to go fix those
[16:48] <jcastro> joey: also, you're going to have to help them keep an eye on this sort of thing: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-10/
[16:48] <jcastro> (look at the noon slot)
[16:50] <jcastro> james_w`: any idea on that missing plenary?
[16:51] <james_w`> not yet
[17:07] <james_w`> jcastro, should we delete the wednesday evening slot?
[17:08] <nigelb> jcastro: ok, sir. will be done in 2 mins :0
[17:10] <jcastro> james_w`: yikes, that was unintended
[17:10] <jcastro> james_w`: I need it to be on the schedule for people who want to Q+A with mark
[17:10] <jcastro> but it's after hours and unofficial
[17:10] <james_w`> jcastro, plenary slot?
[17:11] <jcastro> oh, right
[17:11] <jcastro> good idea
[17:11] <jcastro> why didn't I think of that before?
[17:14] <nigelb> jcastro: https://twitter.com/#!/noufalibrahim/status/63959010319147008 :(
[17:15] <jcastro> james_w`: CRAAAAAAAAP.
[17:15] <jcastro> I changed the slot
[17:15] <jcastro> but didn't remove the sessions in there
[17:15] <jcastro> and I just broke summit
[17:15]  * nigelb celebrates
[17:15] <nigelb> jcastro boke summit, jcastro broke summit!
[17:16] <james_w`> jcastro, ok, give me 5 to work out what's bust
[17:16] <jcastro> it does this
[17:16] <nigelb> need help?
[17:16] <jcastro> when you change tracks underneath it
[17:16] <jcastro> what I should have done is moved the sessions to make the entire thing blank
[17:17] <jcastro> and then changed it to plenary
[17:18] <joey> jcastro: the two toolchains at the same time
[17:18] <joey> jcastro: got it
[17:18] <joey> jcastro: I ran through this yesterday, each session, but failed to find those
[17:18] <james_w`> jcastro, fixed
[17:20] <james_w`> joey, do you know if amitk wanted 1 and a bit days for the PM BOF?
[17:21] <jcastro> joey: also see mail from Mounir, think you can handle those changes?
[17:21] <jcastro> joey: I'm kind of up to my neck on ubuntu platform scheduling fixes myself
[17:21] <jcastro> james_w`: thanks for the fix, I always bone that up. :(
[17:21] <james_w`> np
[17:21] <joey> james_w`: he told me just the one day when we chatted a few weeks ago
[17:22] <joey> james_w`: and he said that he probably doesn't need a dial-in line either
[17:22] <james_w`> joey, ok, I'll set up the one day again, and leave the dangling other session for now
[17:25] <james_w`> jcastro, how did you get the PM BOF to take up a whole day in one room, it won't let me alter it as it hates the same track being in the same room?
[17:28] <jcastro> james_w`:  I deleted the slot for the break
[17:28] <jcastro> so it's one continuous block
[17:29] <jcastro> james_w`: tbh we don't really need break slots, they're just there so the one part says "break"
[17:29] <jcastro> it's like a cosmetic thing that we fix with a hammer
[17:30] <nigelb> bzr lp-open
[17:30] <nigelb> arrrgh!
[17:30] <james_w`> ok, I seem to have tricked it
[17:31] <james_w`> if only people could follow simple instructions :-(
[17:32] <joey> jcastro: ok I got to Mounir's mail. Are you authorizing me to manually move it?
[17:32] <jcastro> joey: you are my linaro counterpart, go nuts
[17:32] <jcastro> joey: you and I will be moving sessions around from now until sunday night
[17:32] <jcastro> :)
[17:33] <joey> :-)
[17:33] <jcastro> joey: but once there michelle is at the desk with summit so people just go to them
[17:33] <jcastro> but yeah, I'll handle ubuntu and you handle linaro
[17:33] <jcastro> looks like most of the linaro ones landed without incident
[17:33] <joey> seems james or someone beat me to it
[17:34] <jcastro> teamwork!
[17:34] <jcastro> joey: you'll want to spot check stuff too
[17:36] <joey> oh slick! pads!
[17:36] <joey> jcastro or james_w` - sorry to be a bother but it seems I need a quick primer on how to move those meetings from one day to another.
[17:36]  * joey is afraid of messing things up
[17:36] <nigelb> jcastro: 'server' right?
[17:36] <jcastro> joey: yeah
[17:37] <jcastro> click edit
[17:37] <jcastro> move the session into the side bar
[17:37] <jcastro> go to the other day
[17:37] <jcastro> click edit, drag from sidebar to slot
[17:37] <jcastro> the sidebar is like your little wood thing in scrabble where you can jumble stuff around
[17:37] <joey> jcastro: so I was on the schedule, should I be on http://summit.ubuntu.com/admin/schedule/meeting/
[17:37] <jcastro> nope
[17:38] <jcastro> do it from the day page
[17:38] <jcastro> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-09/
[17:38] <jcastro> click Edit up top
[17:38] <jcastro> you'll see a sidebar pop out in your browser
[17:38] <jcastro> drag and drop the session there
[17:38] <joey> oh! edit!
[17:38] <joey> lol
[17:38] <jcastro> then go to the next day you want to move it to
[17:38] <jcastro> edit, and drag and drop
[17:38] <joey> sidebar!
[17:38] <jcastro> once you're in edit mode you can just drag the boxes around
[17:38] <paultag> goddamnit. PPAs are down.  I need to get some chow.
[17:41] <nigelb> jcastro: hang on.
[17:41] <nigelb> jcastro: ack my merge request.
[17:41] <jcastro> joey: we're in great shape already, normally it's this full/scheduled like the friday before people get on the plane
[17:41] <paultag> nigelb: way to ask nicely
[17:41] <jcastro> and on sunday night there are people like in the bar doing their blueprints
[17:41] <nigelb> paultag: *cough* its for him anyway :p
[17:41] <paultag> nigelb: also, where are my code reviews?
[17:41] <jcastro> nigelb: ack where?
[17:41] <joey> jcastro: Yeah so far so good. Just need to find that other track that was moved to make sure it's ok.
[17:41] <paultag> I guess, where's my code is the better question
[17:41] <joey> jcastro: thanks!
[17:41] <jcastro> sorry, I was in the zone
[17:42] <nigelb> jcastro: hang on, getting you link
[17:42] <james_w`> jcastro, ok, I've screwed up this PM BOF to where I can't get it back to how you had it. Is there some magic you can work to put it back to being in one room all day?
[17:42] <jcastro> james_w`: it's getting back at you for fixing my error.
[17:42] <james_w`> heh
[17:42] <jcastro> I'll look at it after food, I need to eat
[17:42] <joey> jcastro: oh, editing via the track listing is even better!
[17:43] <jcastro> joey: I know right
[17:43] <nigelb> jcastro: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/fix-server-track/+merge/59531 (diff still updating)
[17:44] <jcastro> the diff was in the mail
[17:44] <jcastro> on it!
[17:44] <nigelb> ah :)
[17:44] <jcastro> done!
[17:44] <nigelb> \o/
[17:44] <jcastro> sorry, I missed the initial mail or something
[17:45]  * nigelb goes ahead and lands it
[17:47] <joey> jcastro: ok one challenge...
[17:47] <joey> jcastro: I see a power mgmt spec correctly named and accepted but I don't see it scheduled or in the sitebar
[17:48] <joey> jcastro: oh, I found it
[17:48] <joey> jcastro: classic case of session name != bp name
[17:49] <james_w`> jcastro, found your server plenary
[17:49] <james_w`> it got scheduled as a normal session
[17:49] <james_w`> it's now available for scheduling as normal
[17:50] <pleia2> jcastro: can you add this link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/ to wednesday on http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/ ?
[17:51] <pleia2> with a "You must register so we can book tickets in advance"
[17:51] <joey> james_w`: there a multiple linaro-android sessions going on at the same time on most days. Do we need to fix those or are they appropriately scheduled based upon who's subscribed?
[17:51] <james_w`> joey, they will need to be fixed
[17:52] <james_w`> however, people should also subscribe as essential if they as essential
[17:52] <james_w`> otherwise when the schedule gets fuller someone will move them around and they may clash again
[17:52] <joey> james_w`: yeah, we have another scheduler run before we lock it down so perhaps an email is in order
[17:52] <james_w`> joey, the scheduler run won't move them
[17:53] <joey> james_w`: how so? I thought the ones we don't move will get shuffled around?
[17:53] <james_w`> nope
[17:54] <joey> james_w`: platform has some dups as well but just looking at them I think it's ok.
[17:54] <nigelb> jcastro: landed.
[17:54] <nigelb> Daviey: landed the fix for serverandcloud -> server, could you land it when you have time?
[17:54] <joey> ug toolchain...fixing that
[18:02] <joey> so james_w` what's the trick to busy time? admin - sched -  participants ?
[18:02] <james_w`> joey, Attendees
[18:03] <joey> ah there it is
[18:03] <james_w`> I think if you use up those three then it will offer more, but I've not tried it
[18:05] <james_w`> so it looks to me like the "oh bugger" messages happen when you drag using the title link of the session. If you drag with the background of the session it gives sensible messages. Is that other people's experience?
[18:12] <nigelb> joey: what exactly did you do to get that traceback?
[18:13] <nigelb> joey: I want to (a) reproduce it myself and confirm your bug (b) possibly fix it if I can :)
[18:18] <mhall119> nigelb: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/guidebook-rebrand/+merge/57591, I made the one change cjohnston wanted
[18:18] <mhall119> if approved, can you land it too?
[18:18] <mhall119> we need to get this update out
[18:18] <nigelb> mhall119: yes
[18:19] <nigelb> doing so
[18:19] <nigelb> mhall119: ref=email? they want us to do that?
[18:21] <mhall119> that's what they asked for, yes
[18:21] <mhall119> not sure why they wanted "email"
[18:22] <mhall119> but, it's what they asked for
[18:22] <nigelb> okay
[18:22] <mhall119> I've also approved a couple of cjohnston's branches, if you can land those as well it'd be much appreciated
[18:23] <nigelb> mhall119: okay. NApproved yours.
[18:23] <nigelb> *approved
[18:23] <mhall119> thanks nigelb, you rock
[18:23] <nigelb> (also, now I see why you gave me commit :p)
[18:23] <mhall119> lol
[18:23] <mhall119> I told ya
[18:24] <nigelb> mhall119: only branch of chris?
[18:24] <jcastro> Technoviking: epic, someone's already done a windicator post in the O forum
[18:25] <nigelb> mhall119: I don't see a couple of branches.
[18:27] <nigelb> okay, I see 2
[18:30] <joey> nigelb: I clicked on that link :-)
[18:30] <joey> nigelb: let me get you your URL
[18:30] <nigelb> joey: I mean, I don't have admin. so I have to reproduce on local :)
[18:31] <nigelb> joey: so I'll have to follow the same steps  :)
[18:31] <joey> nigelb: home-auth-users-nigelb and then click on "view on site" on the right side
[18:32] <jcastro> JFo: man, I found the funniest Unity criticism so far on the web.
[18:32] <jcastro> this is hilarious
[18:32] <nigelb> joey: awesome thanks :)
[18:33] <jcastro> Might be NSFW for some: http://i.imgur.com/zdIIa.png
[18:33] <JFo> jcastro, :-)
[18:33] <nigelb> jcastro: because windicators became persistent?
[18:33] <nigelb> :\
[18:34] <JFo> look at the bars themselves nigelb
[18:34] <JFo> see them for what they are
[18:34] <JFo> ;-)
[18:35] <nigelb> JFo: bah, it is lost on me
[18:35] <nigelb> JFo: I can't figure it out
[18:35] <JFo> look at the symbol at the top of the left bar
[18:35] <nigelb> oh,HAHAHA
[18:36] <JFo> :)
[18:36] <nigelb> we combined mac and windows?
[18:38] <nigelb> mhall119: Landed. Do you wwant me to manually do the "In Progress" -> "Fix Comitted"? or does it happen automatically?
[18:39] <jcastro> nigelb: basically they are saying "the launcher is from windows, the top thing is from mac"
[18:39] <nigelb> jcastro: yeah, I finally got that.
[18:39] <nigelb> I haven't used windows in such a long time it didn't hit me :)
[18:44] <popey> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/671
[18:44] <popey> "Humble, because we have borrowed consciously from the work of other successful platforms, like Windows and MacOS."
[18:44] <popey> duh!
[18:48] <nigelb> lawl
[18:51] <jcastro> you won't here complaints from me, the super shortcuts in win7 are pretty awesome
[18:51] <jcastro> I am glad we improved them
[18:51] <jcastro> they don't do like a nice overlay like we do when you hold the key down
[18:52] <nigelb> james_w`: ping
[18:52] <nigelb> james_w`: what does the trackfix.py change in your branch? Is it fixing something b0rked? :)
[18:52] <nigelb> (i'm on a roll here :p)
[18:53] <james_w`> nigelb, without that change trackfix doesn't fix any tracks
[18:53] <james_w`> it says it will, but doesn't actually make the changes
[18:53] <nigelb> james_w`: ouch, ok :)
[18:54] <james_w`> has anyone seen the BP for summit improvement discussion at UDS?
[18:55] <nigelb> james_w`: I proposed a BP for summit, did you propose another?
[18:56] <james_w`> nope
[18:56] <james_w`> I just want to find it as it's not on the schedule yet from what I can see
[18:56] <nigelb> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/summit/+spec/community-o-summit
[18:56] <james_w`> thanks
[18:56] <nigelb> yeah, jono is yet to approve I guess
[18:58] <nigelb> joey: I couldnt reproduce the problem with mine :\
[19:00] <nigelb> let me try asking someone else to take a poke
[19:05] <james_w`> nigelb, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/
[19:06] <nigelb> james_w`: ugh, cjohnston's merge :\
[19:08] <nigelb> james_w`: fairly sure https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/643050/+merge/59284 is what's causing it
[19:08] <james_w`> nigelb, yep
[19:09] <nigelb> and mike disappears at the right moment.
[19:09] <james_w`> it doesn't like the 35	+    <a class="sub-nav-item" href="{% url summit.schedule.views.past %}">{% trans 'Past Summits' %}</a>
[19:10] <nigelb> james_w`: its working locally :\
[19:11] <james_w`> django version differences?
[19:11] <nigelb> hrm, were there any migrations?
[19:11] <james_w`> nope, I don't think so
[19:13] <nigelb> james_w`: do you have a copy of the traceback?
[19:13] <nigelb> I closed it by mistake :(
[19:13] <james_w`> no, but I can turn it on at any time :-)
[19:13] <james_w`> nigelb, refresh
[19:14] <nigelb> aha
[19:14] <james_w`> NoReverseMatch: Reverse for 'summit.schedule.views.past' with arguments '()' and keyword arguments '{}' not found.
[19:15] <nigelb> this seems to be a django version difference perhaps
[19:16]  * nigelb googles
[19:16] <james_w`> using {% url past %} doesn't work either though
[19:17] <czajkowski> ok 1 more day in April left and then May, can may be a fantastic new month please
[19:18] <nigelb> james_w`: I can't figure this out. Its done correctly. Let me see if there is a connection with django version change
[19:18] <nigelb> james_w`: also, let me get cjohnston online
[19:19] <nigelb> bah, voicemail :(
[19:21] <nigelb> james_w`: has it got all the changes in? like the url.py entry?
[19:21] <james_w`> nigelb, yep
[19:21] <nigelb> james_w`: try removing the url thing?
[19:22] <nigelb> or hang on, let me try that locally
[19:22] <nigelb> wait, that breaks it
[19:24] <nigelb> aha, cjohnston just texted me. I texted him back.
[19:26] <james_w`> it looks like we need to make it re-read the urls.py file
[19:27] <nigelb> but why does it work locally for me then :\
[19:28] <nigelb> james_w`: what version of django are we running on the server
[19:28] <james_w`> nigelb, fixed it
[19:28] <nigelb> james_w`: \o/
[19:28] <nigelb> james_w`: what went wrong?
[19:28] <james_w`> urls.py is cached, so I had to force a restart of something or other
[19:28] <james_w`> "touch django.wsgi"
[19:28] <nigelb> aha!
[19:29] <nigelb> yayayayay!
[19:29] <nigelb> code was perfect.
[19:29]  * nigelb texts cjohnston the good news
[19:30] <nigelb> ok, scare averted. back to work
[19:31] <james_w`> sorry about that
[19:31] <james_w`> now, time to find some lunch
[19:31] <nigelb> heh
[20:05] <mhall119> jcastro: is something up with summit?
[20:06] <mhall119> cjohnston: texted me, said something was broken
[20:09] <nigelb> mhall119: it was, we fixed it. I texted him to text you :)
[20:09] <nigelb> mhall119: james_w` pushed the latest code, and we had forgotten to do a restart of mod_wsgi, worked after that :)
[20:12] <mhall119> nigelb: I got the "they fixed it" text too
[20:12] <mhall119> just wanted to check in
[20:13] <mhall119> good work
[20:13] <nigelb> mhall119: james_w` figured it out. All I did was text chris ^-^
[20:13] <nigelb> akgraner, jcastro -> Done! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Natty/SessionLeaders
[20:26] <jcastro> pleia2: done.
[20:26] <jcastro> pleia2: ping me on monday during plenaries so I can announce that people should sign up
[20:26] <pleia2> jcastro: you rock, thank you :) will do!
[20:27] <mhall119> sign up for what?
[20:28] <pleia2> mhall119: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/
[20:28] <pleia2> invisible exhibition on wednesday evening at UDS :)
[20:28] <mhall119> what is it?
[20:28] <pleia2> http://www.lathatatlan.hu/en/
[20:28] <jcastro> pleia2: ok so here's a creepy story
[20:28] <jcastro> I just now went upstairs to get some ice
[20:29] <jcastro> and we have star wars lego fridge magnets
[20:29] <jcastro> and I have a princess leia magnet one right by the handle to the freezer
[20:29] <jcastro> and I walked up there and opened the door and I was like "have a good time at your exhibition princess."
[20:29] <jcastro> like, to the lego character
[20:29] <pleia2> hahah
[20:30] <pleia2> it's a good thing it's friday :)
[20:30] <mhall119> interesting
[20:30] <jcastro> my party is in 4 hours
[20:30] <jcastro> well, the -us-mi party I mean
[20:31] <pleia2> mhall119: yeah, AlanBell suggested going in an -accessibility blog post a few weeks back, so I coordinated with the ubuntu hungarian folks to help us get there on public transit and to arrange getting tickets (and possibly having the exhibition stay open late if we have lots of people who want to go)
[20:37] <doctormo> Hey all
[20:37] <doctormo> Anyone having issues with ppa uploads? I'm getting connection refused.
[20:37] <joey> nigelb: the good news is that it's not really anything that track leads need to worry about, I think. I just happened to be exploring
[20:39] <Pici> doctormo: ppa.lp.net. is overloaded at the moment.
[20:39] <doctormo> Pici: Thanks for info. :-) Will post my delicious data validation some other time.
[20:42] <pleia2> doctormo: I discovered britshoppe.com has a retail outlet about 12 blocks from me, hopping over there on Saturday to secure teas :)
[20:43] <jcastro> woo, new 5 fingers for UDS!
[20:43] <nigelb> joey: :)
[20:43] <nigelb> pleia2: :)
[20:44] <doctormo> "Taylors of Harrogate Yorkshire Red tea" - Wow, could you get more pretentious ;-), we just all it "The tea wot the spoon stands up in"
[20:44] <nigelb> jcastro: stop freaking us out :p
[20:44] <doctormo> call*
[20:44] <doctormo> jcastro: Got yourself a new arm i.e. Beeblebrox?
[20:46] <doctormo> pleia2: So grab the 40x tea bags in both pg tips and yorkshire red. They're $4 and $6, if you can cart a packet of rich tea and digestive biscuits, then you get an extra gold start.
[20:46] <doctormo> star*
[20:46] <pleia2> \o/
[20:47] <pleia2> digestive biscuits aren't well-sealed, will need to make sure I can get them through customs
[20:47] <doctormo> pleia2: Put them in luggage, customs have never stopped me before...
[20:48]  * pleia2 nods
[20:48] <doctormo> Unless you don't carry luggage.
[20:48] <pleia2> oh no, I love luggage
[20:48] <jcastro> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/erpOVwOC71Gnzy0tZLdG7w?feat=directlink
[20:48] <jcastro> woo!
[20:48] <doctormo> Does anyone fancy lighting talking about this on my behalf? http://doctormo.org/2011/04/29/bugs-are-not-issues/
[21:09] <popey> ooo like that doctormo
[21:09] <doctormo> You're going?
[21:09] <popey> UDS, no.
[21:42] <jussi> doctormo: Ill see if I can screw up the courage to do it... can promise anything...
[21:48] <doctormo> jussi: You _can_ promise anything ;-)
[21:49] <doctormo> I just shared a scanner over the network, I'm happy.
[22:18] <jcastro> james_w`: oh dude you sorted the plenary!
[22:18] <jcastro> joey: can you ping asac on monday to doublecheck the plenaries? linaro has one more open slot but if you're note going to use it I'd like to give it to a community member.
[22:18] <jcastro> joey: basically, last chance alex!
[22:19] <joey> jcastro: wilco..  he's been searching for some topic but so far one has not presented itself
[22:19] <jcastro> right
[22:19] <jcastro> and right now there is exactly one non-canonical or linaro person giving a plenary
[22:20] <jcastro> I would like to at least double that
[22:21] <joey> :-)


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[22:36] <OvenWerks> I thought I was done with the GUI... but what about mono devices.
[22:37] <OvenWerks> with multi-port devices we assume stereo out from pulse get an odd/even pair... if a device has only 1 input (I have three or four of them and I guess some internal ones are mono too)
[22:38] <OvenWerks> In my case that would end up as the last one, so I took care of that first.
[22:39] <OvenWerks> Then I thought what if the mono device was not the last device (or in my case I can add two of them)
[22:40] <OvenWerks> doubled the lines of code for that part of things :P
[22:41] <OvenWerks> Anyway, GUI figured out, just have to do outputs... in case there is a mono one. (though I have not seen this)
[22:41] <OvenWerks> (and I guess can't test it)


 Executable: plasmashell PID: 4923 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: ٣/١١/٢٠٢٣ ٣:٤٩:٥٦ ص +03
 i get this after turn smart video wallpaper on
 ٣/١١/٢٠٢٣ ٤:٢٠ ص  kernel  nouveau 0000:01:00.0: msvld: unable to load firmware data
 ٣/١١/٢٠٢٣ ٤:٢٠ ص  kernel  nouveau 0000:01:00.0: msvld: init failed, -19
[01:45] <mmikowski> VEN_824: https://kfocus.org/wf/recovery.html#bkm_recover_from_busybox
 i need help i get black background with only cursor and
 'The KDE Crash Handler'
 Executable: plasmashell PID: 4923 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: ٣/١١/٢٠٢٣ ٣:٤٩:٥٦ ص +03
 how to fix black screen when use Video wallpaper?
 23.10 Notification - click "Upgrade failed with the following output:"
 That's it! No output.
 pkexec do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE - a pop up to enter password - then nothing!
 sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop
 Checking for a new Ubuntu release
 Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.
 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 1 not to upgrade.
 🤷🏼♂
 Why can I not upgrade???
[11:28] <utkojhamela> I have the same problem :(
 hmm, curiously after running sudo aptitude update
 sudo aptitude upgrade
  NOT sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade - I was able to initiate the upgrade. (re @IrcsomeBot: <utkojhamela> I have the same problem :()
[12:41] <hiro731> こんにちは、皆さん
[12:41] <hiro731> 私はkubuntu23.10を新しくインストールしたのですが、問題が発生してしまいました。
[12:41] <hiro731> wi-fiモジュールが正しく動作しないのです。
[12:41] <hiro731> 以前のkubuntuでは大丈夫でした
[12:43] <hiro731> 私のノートには　Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8822BE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WiFi adapter　が搭載されていますが正しく動作しません。
[12:43] <hiro731> どうしたら解決できるでしょうか？
 bro this is an English group
[12:46] <Eickmeyer> !en | hiro731
[12:47] <Eickmeyer> jp | hiro731
[12:47] <Eickmeyer> !jp | hiro731
[12:49] <hiro731> I'm sorry
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Hi all, Happy Friday!
[14:50] <user|70> Hi! anyone knows live session password for 23.04?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> usually just leave it blank iirc
[14:57] <user|70> thanks, doesnt work :(
[15:01] <BluesKaj> thar's odd , unless you have a password protected image
[20:34] <Guest59> kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[20:34] <Guest59> Repository: 'Types: deb
[20:34] <Guest59> URIs: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu/
[20:34] <Guest59> Suites: mantic
[20:34] <Guest59> Components: main
[20:34] <Guest59> '
[22:05] <user|40> wat is the pass from live user session on kubuntu?
[22:23] <Guest48> hi
[22:23] <Guest48> some one there?
[22:23] <Guest48> I need a help!
[22:25] <Guest48> I'm installing Kubuntu 23.04 from live usb...  and...  stay stucked at session password screen
[22:26] <Guest48> I try blank password like a lot of forums sugest but...
[22:26] <Guest48> no success
[22:27] <Guest48> try ubuntu, kubuntu, admin, and every intuitive password I cud imagin
[22:27] <Guest48> somo one cud help me?
[22:27] <Guest48> someone
[22:46] <Guest48> ?
[22:46] <Guest48> no one?
[22:46] <Guest48> why this channel exist?
[23:02] <Guest48> tks for nothing!


[00:46] <wip> hi, is there any change in permission for polling hid device in jaunty?
[00:46] <wip> even with root i cannot poll any hid device with jaunty
[03:01] <wip> still trying to use my wacom with jaunty... xinput -list = "Wacom Graphire2 4x5"	id=12	[XExtensionKeyboard]
[03:01] <wip> [XExtensionKeyboard] that is not right...
[03:03] <wip> how to change Wacom from XExtensionKeyboard to XExtensionPointer?
[03:14]  * wip desesperate
[03:14] <wip> oups..
[04:12] <ebroder> Why did dh_pycentral start removing symlinked files on upgrades?
[04:13] <ebroder> It's causing problems for me with the upgrade process in the python-xen-3.3 package because the python-xen-3.3 modules go away before the prerm of xen-utils-3.3 is called, and xen-utils-3.3 needs those modules in place
[04:14] <ebroder> Wait...since xen-utils-3.3 depends on python-xen-3.3, shouldn't xen-utils prerm get called before python-xen's?
[04:15] <Amaranth> ebroder: for what?
[04:15] <ebroder> Huh?
[04:15] <ebroder> Oh - for stopping xend
[04:18] <ebroder> Shouldn't all of a package's dependencies still be fully installed when its prerm runs?
[04:22] <ebroder> Or are they only guaranteed to be unpacked?
[04:23] <StevenK> Hmmm. Check Debian Policy
[05:05] <ebroder> Yeah - it definitely seems like the prerm for python-xen-3.3 is being run before the prerm for xen-utils-3.3, in spite of the fact that xen-utils-3.3 depends on python-xen-3.3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/174036/
[05:05] <ebroder> That's incredibly irritating
[08:37] <MelisU> Hello, what is the exec key for the directory the file is in?  Like evince %f is for file .. but which key is the dir?
[08:40] <persia> MelisU, http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
[08:41] <MelisU> persia: Yeah I already found that, but which one is for the dir??
[08:41] <persia> I don't think there is one.  Best to use %f (or %F), and have the application sort it out.
[11:27] <geser> anyone around who could please give-back findlib? thanks
[11:43] <Hobbsee> geser: done
[12:46] <sladen> since the release, at every boot up, 'update-manager' is popping up with three open windows.
[15:45] <lamont> who knows d-i well?
[15:57] <persia> lamont, I've read a fair bit of the code, but I can't say I know it well.  What's the question?
[15:57] <lamont> well, it took me a minute to remember that the netboot initrd gets one -server... I want a netboot ubuntu-desktop...  so what do I need to abuse to fix that?
[15:58] <persia> Select the ubuntu-desktop task and dselect all the server tasks in tasksel when netbooting?
[15:59] <persia> You can preseed tasksel, but I don't understand the intricacies of that.
[16:01] <lamont> persia: that would be the specific question, I  fear
[16:02] <lamont> though I might have that figured out well enough now
[17:25] <calc> fsck on a 750gb ext3 usb drive takes a very long time
[17:29] <sebner> calc: ext4 ext4 ext4 \o/
[17:29] <ebroder> Does it actually help fsck time?
[17:30] <ion_> The ext3 performance improvements in 2.6.30 are nice, btw. Not that it affects fsck, though.
[17:30] <jdong> ebroder: yeah, as long as a significant part of the drive is unused ;-)
[17:31] <ebroder> That's like saying that my computer is really fast when I'm not running any programs :-P
[17:31] <jdong> indeed :)
[17:36] <d1b> ion_: what kind of a performance do they provide?
[17:36] <d1b> (increase)
[17:36] <sebner> ion_: I'd stick to ext4
[17:37] <ion_> d1b: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_30#head-329ba44b44a7f58c98ae22b8f2730418cdd6630d
[17:38] <jdong> lol by "performance" you mean set data=writeback default? :P
[17:39] <ion_> jdong: Fixing the issues the change would otherwise have caused (as well as the ext4 issue), and *then* changing the mode.
[17:41] <jdong> well specifically what did they do to address the potential out-of-order hazards?
[17:41] <jdong> all I see is fsync-on-rename hacks and such
[17:41] <jdong> and GRR ath9k, screw you. please stop trying 	tx bitrate:	324.0 MBit/s MCS 28 40Mhz
[17:42] <d1b> btw any one know how to set the country code for wifi ?
[17:42] <jdong> d1b: iw reg set...
[17:42] <jdong> linuxwireless has more info on doing it
[17:43] <jdong> http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Regulatory/CRDA
[17:43] <d1b> it would be nice if a google turned that up ...
[17:43] <d1b> couldn't find it before
[17:43] <d1b>  / not in the iwconfig man page to try iw
[17:43] <jdong> yeah it's a bit unintuitive
[17:44] <jdong> and google has a lot of blind-leading-the-blind when it comes to this subject :(
[17:44] <d1b> + does it default to us ... it should be international
[17:44] <jdong> I'm not sure what it "defaults" per se to... I think udev rules are supposed to handle locality
[17:45] <d1b> jdong: what areas are available can't find it / the short names
[17:45] <d1b> other than us
[17:45] <calc> d1b: aiui it is supposed to ask the AP
[17:46]  * calc isn't sure how that works
[17:46] <d1b> calc: oh. thats fair enough but i know there is said network on channel 13.
[17:46] <d1b> can't see it.
[17:47] <jdong> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory
[17:48] <jdong> specifically, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-regdb.git;a=blob;f=db.txt;hb=HEAD
[17:51] <d1b> k
[21:11] <olmari> Would there be any possibility to have "server" as type-in selection in mini.iso installation? (is this correct channel to suggest)
[22:14] <wip> how to change this: "Wacom Graphire2 4x5 cursor"	id=10	[XExtensionKeyboard] to [XEntensionPointer]. my wacom is not a keyboard
[22:14] <wip> i saw today an update of xserver-xorg-input-synaptics but still no luck with my wacom
[22:16] <ion_> wip: When you report the bug, please share the link, i’ll want to subscribe.
[22:17] <wip> ion_: will do but i need to be sure it's not just me
[22:17] <ion_> It might be related to the HAL→udev/DeviceKit migration, but dunno really.
[22:17] <ion_> Or perhaps it’s a bug in the evdev Xorg driver.
[22:17] <wip> ion_: yes i think it's because of the new way of talking to the device (HAL)
[23:00] <ripps> Can someone help me with a debuild script of mine, I'm trying to get debuild to ignore several debian.* backup directories that keep for backports. I already use "debuild -i\.git|.hg|.svn|.bzr/" to ignore various vcs directories
[23:47] <sladen> ripps: can't you just append them to the .-i list
[23:47] <olmari> Would there be any possibility to have "server" as type-in selection in mini.iso installation? (is this correct channel to suggest)
[23:58] <Turl1> hi
[23:59] <Turl1> how can I copy a script in debian/scripts/foo to usr/bin ?


[00:12] <uBUXUBu> well i like it, yes i do , i like it......
[01:40] <flyback> what runlevel is *WITHOUT* x
[01:40] <flyback> I suspect there's a bug in the stock kernel/and or X and the updates might fix it
[01:40] <flyback> but it shits itself before hand
[01:40] <flyback> so I need to disable X
[01:40] <Unit193> !text
[01:41] <flyback> thx
[03:12] <pvl1> is there an app for lubuntu to bind keys to certain actions
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> pvl1: You'll have to manually take to the config file yourself. It's ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[03:20] <pvl1> thank you SonikkuAmerica
[05:50] <KI7MT> clear
[06:57] <r47d00m> hello there, I'm setting up my VGA monitor resolution and I both "Save" and "Apply" the configs, I still have to do that everytime I reboot, which is annoying
[06:57] <r47d00m> I'm talking about the "Monitor Settings" in Preferences
[07:03] <flyback> you could always just setup a command to copy your config file the way you want it back, evey time
[08:40] <r47d00m> but that doesn't solve the problem, just a way to turn around it
[08:41] <r47d00m> why it doesn't save when I click save ? lol
[16:53] <vicky> hi
[17:05] <zleap> hi


[02:10] <Zaragon> hi all.....what channel can I go to for help on wireless adapters?  please
[05:55] <lucas8880> how do you post a question in the ubuntu forums?
[17:10] <bodhi_zazen> Artificial_Intel: poke
[17:10] <Artificial_Intel> no dice
[18:30] <bodhi_zazen> Artificial_Intel still no joy ?
[18:30] <Artificial_Intel> mope
[18:30] <Artificial_Intel> nope