[08:57] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:40] <brobostigon> o/
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> so any excitement planned for today?
[09:46] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: maybe a visit to my local this afternoon with my notebook and o more brainstorming on the D&D scenario i am building, :)
[18:06] <ana_> probably the people helping me are not here right now, but if it can be passed on ... thank you for all your help. I managed to change my hard drive and now all works. thanks
[18:08] <daftykins> woohoo
[20:26] <brobostigon> a family solicitor in the house?
[21:33] <daftykins> https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/02/donkey-kong-billy-mitchell-high-score-fraud-allegation/
[21:33] <daftykins> wowzer
[22:00] <diddledan> yawn
[22:00] <diddledan> jetlag is a bummer
[22:10] <daftykins> :<


[23:06] <jcqr123> hi meetingology
[23:06] <jcqr123> meetingology #start
[23:06] <meetingology> jcqr123: Error: "#start" is not a valid command.
[23:06] <jcqr123> meetingology #link
[23:06] <meetingology> jcqr123: Error: "#link" is not a valid command.
[23:06] <jcqr123> meetingology kick
[23:06] <meetingology> jcqr123: Error: You don't have the #ubuntu-co-meeting,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.


[11:49] <nlsthzn> spam on mailing list.... :/
[11:50] <akgraner> nlsthzn, hmmm we tightened the filters a while back
[11:50] <akgraner> we'll take a look again
[11:58] <nlsthzn> Amit Hinduja<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- Something or other about iphones
[12:01] <akgraner> thanks
[12:01] <akgraner> if it makes it to the list I never see it since my own spam mail filter catches it if the mailing list one doesn't
[12:01] <akgraner> so thanks for pointing that out
[12:16] <nlsthzn> funny that gmail hadn't caught it (normally it is also pretty solid)
[13:45] <nlsthzn> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-news ... so... who do I have to bribe to get in :p
[13:45] <Pendulum> nlsthzn: when my membership was up and I needed to ask someone else to renew me, got told not to worry about being on the LP team atm
[13:48] <nlsthzn> Pendulum: OK... (not that I was worrying about it) :)
[14:26] <philipballew> is anyone else gettin the spam to the mailing list?
[16:11] <pleia2> those emails were actually caught by moderation but someone let them through
[16:11] <pleia2> not sure who all has admin these days, we should probably get that sorted and the list password changed
[16:15] <pleia2> nlsthzn: re: ~ubuntu-news - the whole team is completely unstructured and launchpad accounts don't really matter right now (for instance, I'm just a fridge editor, I've never been added to the UWN team), it's on our todo list to get membership and ownership of the team sorted
[16:16] <nlsthzn> pleia2, no prob... I suspected as much (but seeing how much work goes into the news-letter and also other news related activities I would think something more formal could only add value :)
[16:17] <pleia2> it adds work, assigning leadership structure, determining who is eligible for membership
[16:17] <pleia2> for not much value, since we don't do anything with lp except the scripts in the ~uwn team
[16:18] <pleia2> we have enough trouble getting the newsletter out the door every week, but now that we have more volunteers hopefully we can start taking the time to work on structure soon
[16:28] <nlsthzn> I guess... :)
[23:05] <pleia2> working on beta2 announcement on fridge


[15:23] <TheSilentLink> hi I installed lubuntu but my mic and sound doesn't work anyone know how to fix it?
[16:03] <TheSilentLink> don't worry I fixed it!
[18:34] <rach23py> Does lubuntu 14.04 support Macbook pro 13 retina?
[18:36] <rach23py> Does lubuntu 14.04 support Macbook pro 13 retina 2015 ?
[18:39] <rach23py> can lubuntu 14.04 support Macbook pro 13 retina 2015 ?
[18:43] <rach23py>  lubuntu 15.04 support Macbook pro 13 retina 2015 ?
[18:43] <wxl> rach23py: no reason it shouldn't. amd64 image.
[18:45] <rach23py> will the graphics and hot keys work?
[18:45] <wxl> unclear
[18:45] <wxl> i'm sure you can get them to work if they don't, though
[18:46] <rach23py> unconclusive, trying to install it
[19:00] <wxl> lubuntu meeting going on now in #lubuntu-devel
[20:07] <n-iCe> hello guys
[20:10] <n-iCe> is ubuntu lightweighter than puppy linux?
[20:45] <n-iCe> Good, I'm running lubuntu now, so pretty.
[21:14] <n-iCe> Hello, can anyone help me with the weather panel, I can set a location.


[20:24] <mup> PR operator#465 opened: Allow Harness.get_relation_data to accept instances <Created by johnsca> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/465>


[12:07] <Etapien> hit fn f7
[12:08] <Jaws> Hi, Ive been trying to get my wireless laptop mouse (usb) working but ubuntu doest seem to see it.  Any ideas?
[12:15] <bodhi_zazen_work> Thanks I'll try it
[12:16] <bodhi_zazen_work> I'll get back to you with more details if it does not work....
[04:42] <kishan> hi
[04:42] <kishan> any body in here
[07:48] <Jaws> Anyone have any ideas on how to get a wireless laptop mouse to work, ubuntu doesnt seem to see it
[07:48] <Burgundavia> Jaws: bluetooth?
[07:50] <Jaws> Burgundavia, no usb
[07:50] <Burgundavia> run lshal -m
[07:50] <Burgundavia> then unplug and replug the device in
[07:50] <Jaws> Burgundavia, ok
[07:52] <Jaws> Burgundavia, It doesn't show anything...
[07:53] <Jaws> Burgundavia, I know its working too because it works in windows
[07:55] <Burgundavia> Jaws: compare lsusb before and after you plug it in
[07:57] <Jaws> Burgundavia, they come up the same
[07:57] <Burgundavia> what does dmesg say?
[07:57] <Jaws> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 13fe:1a00
[07:57] <Jaws> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:57] <Jaws> one is probubly my flash drive tho let me take that out and try again
[07:58] <Jaws> ok, so now device 002 is gone, only device 001 is there
[07:58] <Jaws> both when its plugged in and not
[08:01] <Burgundavia> lovely, no id
[09:52] <AndyR> lo all
[09:54] <AndyR> can anyone please help me with what i think is an apci problem on my compaq evo n160
[09:55] <AndyR> the battery meter shows battery as not present
[09:56] <AndyR> but it is at /proc/acpi/battery/CMB0/info
[12:52] <Simira> AndyR: NOT support... try #ubuntu, og search the wiki or launchpad
[01:32] <AndyR> Simira, ok sorry i tried on #ubuntu without luck
[03:00] <jenda> Hello.
[03:01] <jenda> The Czech Locoteam has been questioned in an interview, and one of the questions was in which ways will Feisty focus on laptop support... which the SABDFL allegedly said.


[00:03] <yofel> arand: really? for me it was the previous one that broke the kernel upgrade
[00:04] <arand>  1.98+20100614-2ubuntu1 is my culprit
[00:04] <yofel> that one works fine here
[00:04] <arand> Well, not for me it don't..
[05:21] <akio> Are the alternate installs working?
[05:22] <akio> I just tried using them on usb with usb creator and failed hard
[05:22] <akio> it got to "boot:"
[05:23] <akio> pressing enter gets to a scary white screen that reminds me of a nasty bug I heard about in X
[05:23] <akio> not X, kms
[05:23] <akio> anybody here even use the alternate install method?
[05:24] <holstein> akio: let me see if i can find a link
[05:26] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuServerFlashDriveInstaller
[05:26] <akio> thanks
[05:26] <holstein> ive heard this works with the alternate installers via USB
[05:28] <akio> sweet a script
[06:06] <akio> holstein: it does the same thing
[06:06] <akio> I think there is something fishy going on here.
[06:07] <akio> I don't think they would have tested it by now.
[06:07] <akio> There is no reason to this early.
[06:07] <akio> Or at least that would be what I would assume.
[06:08] <akio> I have an external drive but now I must waste another cd.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> how do you change the login screen themes? example change xubuntu login screen back to gnome's
[11:11]  * gnomefreak drawing blanks
[11:13] <Jettis> t
[13:00] <Vigo> If I backup /home can I use it in a 10.10 dual boot until October?
[13:03] <gnomefreak> Vigo: you should dual boot anyway if you plan on upgrading to 10.10
[13:03] <Vigo> Nevermind, and Thank you.
[13:03] <Vigo> gnomefreak: I just had a face/palm moment, Thank you.
[13:04] <gnomefreak> np
[13:05] <Vigo> I am still messing with csh stuff, I blanked for a moment there, so I asked, again, Thank you.
[13:10] <repete> anyone else having problems w/ swap?
[13:11] <gnomefreak> nope
[13:11]  * gnomefreak smoke be back
[13:12] <repete> I'm getting system hangs because of some massive i/o op and it _seems_ to be swap, but having trouble getting good information.
[13:12] <repete> any hints are welcome. :-)
[13:16] <Ian_corne> I don't advise running to gnome versions on the same /home
[15:05] <cjohnston> Does anyone else have problems playing wmv files on +1?
[15:15] <DrHalan> jap
[15:15] <DrHalan> i think mediubuntu istn uptodate jet
[15:15] <DrHalan> cjohnston:
[15:22] <gnomefreak> it is for 10.10
[16:10] <arand> [cjwatson] enable installer support for btrfs: DONE   \o/
[16:15]  * arand waits eagerly for upcoming dailies
[16:20] <cjohnston> gnomefreak: any idea then why it wont play wmv?
[16:37] <Daekdroom> Has the GNOME been updated to 3?
[16:38] <Vigo> sweet!
[16:40] <arand> Daekdroom: Not that I know of, and I think it isn't planned for MM anyways, at least not all of it..
[16:40] <Daekdroom> arand, oh.
[16:40] <arand> To late.
[16:44] <arand> Daekdroom: However a lot of gnome 3 will be available for optional install, like shell, I guess
[16:45] <Daekdroom> arand, some digging got me to this link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-gnome
[16:46] <Daekdroom> So yeah, pretty much that
[17:16] <Vigo> Any documentation on Drop Elevated Privileges?
[17:22] <Vigo> Found it, nevermind
[17:38] <quentusrex_> Anyone know how to turn up the cpu fan in 10.10?
[17:39] <quentusrex_> I want to manually set it to the max
[17:41] <holstein> bios ?
[17:41] <quentusrex_> asus k50ab the bios doesn't have a setting for it.
[17:44] <Vigo> I think you can try pwmconfig , but look it up.
[17:45] <Vigo> There are many,many warnings about setting CPU fan speeds.
[18:34] <ripps> The new ffmpeg is being held back by a bunch of packages, when is theis going to be fixed?
[18:37] <DanaG> How do I get my automounted ntfs USB drive not to be 700 permissions?  That is, it's mounting as readable only to me, and screwing every other user in the system, including the samba daemon.  Where the heck do you set drive automount permissions now?
[18:37] <DanaG> Note that this is not a Maverick-specific issue, but the system with the issue IS using Maverick.
[18:39] <arand> DanaG: umask=### in fstab?
[18:40] <DanaG> It's a USB drive, so if I put it in fstab, it would complain.
[18:40] <DanaG> You used to be able to right-click the thing in Nautilus and go to "set mount options".
[18:41] <DanaG> I mean, it would complain when the drive is not present.
[19:01] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/482501
[19:03] <DanaG> Actually, that's more than just wishlist... it's a regression.
[19:04] <Daekdroom> Definitely a regression
[19:04] <Daekdroom> 2 or 3 versions ago, I didn't have to set my NTFS directly in fstab :(
[19:05] <DanaG> which regression tag would that be, though?
[19:05] <arand> Sounds like something that would go upstream though...
[19:06] <arand> Might be yet more of the lost-in-new-version stuff of gnome's ?
[19:06] <DanaG> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586708
[19:06] <DanaG> Yup.
[19:10] <ripps> I anybody else having ffmpeg upgrade issues?
[19:21] <DanaG> Internal Server ErrorNotImplementedError
[20:35] <zniavre> good evening
[21:09] <avi_> Will Maverick support waking the machine from suspend mode? I miss this feature from OSX and Windows.
[21:10] <avi_> As in, apps being able to wake the machine say, for use as an alarm clock.
[21:26] <dupondje> hmz
[21:26] <dupondje> seems like copying to cifs share keeps showing icon
[21:27] <dupondje> even if copy is done
[21:39]  * gnomefreak not sure but i doubt it
[22:30] <DanaG> nice: indicator-applet shows "Show Copy Dialog" on any file operation... including deletion.
[22:35] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/562033
[22:39] <Nitsuga> DanaG, I have the indicator always, doesn't mind if i'm actually copying or not.
[22:39] <Nitsuga> well, in fact i don't have it right now... weird
[23:20] <Sarvatt> ok fglrx-installer for 10.6 is in x-updates now, still doesnt work with xserver 1.8 though :(
[23:20] <Sarvatt> at least lucid gets the massive 2D speedup
[23:22] <DanaG> OpenGL version string: 3.3.9901 Compatibility Profile Context FireGL
[23:22] <DanaG> yay.
[23:29] <gnomefreak> 10.6?
[23:31] <DanaG> yup. Lucid, of course.
[23:31] <DanaG> My netbook is on Maverick, though.
[23:32] <gnomefreak> 10.4 == lucid i thought
[23:32] <gnomefreak> 10.04 even
[23:48] <DanaG> Naming collision.
[23:48] <DanaG> ATI names things year.month, with no leading zeroes.
[23:48] <DanaG> 10.6.
[23:52] <gnomefreak> ah


[00:49] <SergioMeneses> IAmNotThatGuy, \o
[00:49] <SergioMeneses> long time! how are you?
[00:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hey  SergioMeneses
[00:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> I am good. Just now woke up and i am going to pay
[00:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> How are you?
[01:28] <SergioMeneses> IAmNotThatGuy, I'm fine thanks! are you working with the beginners team?
[03:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> SergioMeneses: Currently i am not involved. But i am with them
[05:23] <IAmNotThatGuy> UnderControl!
[08:53] <jpickett> JoseeAntonioR, Dell
[08:53] <jpickett> hope it's resolved soon
[08:55] <philipballew> Lots of problems hes having with that
[08:55] <smartboyhw> Hello
[08:55] <smartboyhw> philipballew, /me agrees
[09:10] <jpickett> philipballew, twas looking forward to the UDS back in Oakland!
[09:10] <smartboyhw> jpickett, you do know it's cancelled do you?
[09:10] <smartboyhw> ...
[09:10] <smartboyhw> They have replaced it with online UDS
[09:11] <smartboyhw> Which is starting basically tomorrow
[09:11] <jpickett> yeah I know
[09:12] <jpickett> I went to UDS-Q in Oakland
[09:12] <jpickett> and R in Copenhagen
[09:12] <philipballew> jpickett, yeah, id apply for that and go! oh well. its nice to see tha maybe we can have more people involved
[09:12] <smartboyhw> :)
[09:13] <smartboyhw> philipballew, we should ALWAYS get more people involved:P
[09:13] <jpickett> philipballew, what other linux events are around your area?
[09:14] <philipballew> jpickett, The southerncalifornia Linux esxo was last week and I went and spoke. Had about 2500 people there. And in May is Texas Linux fest. A two day linux fest ill be at. Then in July, its oscon (open source convention) in Portland with about 5000 people. You?
[09:14] <philipballew> *southern California
[09:16] <jpickett> We have linux.conf.au in January each year. Not sure how many attend but I think less than 1000.
[09:17] <jpickett> and other smaller events like pycon and drupal conferences
[09:17] <philipballew> jpickett, that sounds cool. You gonna go to any of them?
[09:17] <jpickett> nothing ubuntu-centric
[09:17] <jpickett> I try to get to linux conf au but didn't think year
[09:19] <philipballew> how far away is that from you?
[09:22] <jpickett> well next year it is across the other side of the country, in Perth
[09:23] <philipballew> thats far
[09:23] <philipballew> odd to throw it all the way over there
[09:24] <jpickett> changes every year
[09:25] <philipballew> hum, seems like that would bring down attendance
[09:25] <philipballew> guess not
[09:26] <jpickett> maybe, but I guess the people that are keen on going will go wherever it is
[09:27] <philipballew> thats a good point
[09:27] <philipballew> if i had a few thousand lying around id like to go


[17:43] <s10gopal> should i disable secure boot?
[17:43] <glomaz> leftyfb: I could try rebooting the server, it also seems it hasn't run out of free space yet
[17:43] <Nick21> Hello.
[17:43] <tati_> oerheks_, ctrl+alt+f1 freezes the mouse. I will try f2 again although it didn't seem to work
[17:44] <glomaz> leftyfb: laptop is currently running 17.04, so is it try to automatically upgrade?
[17:44] <Budgii> @sl0gopal: To reiterate you are wanting to install on a partition you made, correct?
[17:45] <s10gopal> no
[17:45] <s10gopal> like in windows , we install window in one drive and other drive for data backup
[17:45] <s10gopal> i want to do that in ubuntu
[17:47] <Budgii> @sl0gopal: i'd think you'd just want another partition. I don't know
[17:48] <jimb_> Budgii & s10gopal - That is how I do it, a data partition on the main drive and generally additional data only drives that are mounted.
[17:48] <Nick21_> How can I improve my youtube experience in Ubuntu?
[17:48] <jimb_> s10gopal - The pre-installed GUI utility for this is GParted
[17:48] <Nick21_> I am currently using flash player
[17:48] <Budgii> Nick21 is it lagging?
[17:48] <Nick21_> Yeah
[17:48] <Nick21_> Like
[17:49] <Nick21_> In some videos where they are HD, they freeze for a moment
[17:49] <Nick21_> And pop back up and freezes again
[17:49] <Nick21_> As in the frames of the video
[17:49] <Budgii> is it buffering?
[17:49] <kostkon> Nick21_, youtube is html5 only now
[17:49] <Nick21_> Yeah
[17:49] <tati__> @oerheks unfortunately, alt+ctrl+f2 also freezes the move. I can regain access to the mouse if i press f7. Is there another way of enter virtual console to allow this command to work? cd / && sudo mv /home /old_home && sudo mkdir /home
[17:49] <s10gopal> it is must to disable secure boot ?
[17:49] <Nick21_> I mean
[17:49] <Nick21_> It loads perfectly
[17:50] <Nick21_> But
[17:50] <Nick21_> It freezes sometimes
[17:50] <Budgii> Is the computer it self fast?
[17:51] <Budgii> do you have enough RAM?
[17:51] <Nick21_> Uhhhh, not that fast, but I am able to play Youtube videos well on Windows 8
[17:51] <Nick21_> I have 2GB RAM
[17:51] <Budgii> What version of Linux are you using?
[17:51] <Nick21_> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[17:51] <oerheks> and what videocard?
[17:51] <Nick21_> How can I check the video card?
[17:51] <Nick21_> Is there a command?
[17:52] <oerheks> systemsettings > details
[17:52] <Nick21_> Intel® 945GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[17:53] <oerheks> oh, surprising that win8 plays video on that old chip
[17:53] <Nick21_> Yeah...
[17:53] <jose-phillips> hi
[17:53] <jose-phillips> im trying to install ubuntu 16.04 over iscsi disk on uefi mod
[17:53] <jose-phillips> e
[17:53] <jose-phillips> but for one reason is always installing in legacy mode
[17:54] <Nick21_> But I am trying to make it work for Ubuntu @oerheks
[17:54] <s10gopal> it is must to disable secure boot ?
[17:54] <oerheks> Nick21_, good luck i wish you, i think it will never run youtube properly
[17:54] <Budgii> @sl0gopal, usually you need to to install an OS from newer windows versions
[17:55] <Nick21_> Yeah, because of the graphics they've implemented.... oerheks
[17:55] <Budgii> @sl0gopal try a quick google tutorial
[17:56] <Budgii> @Nick21_ i'd try Xubuntu or something that is not as graphically intensive
[17:56] <Nick21_> Xubuntu
[17:56] <Budgii> Yes.
[17:56] <Budgii> I used that on an old one and it was fast
[17:56] <Budgii> older computer
[17:56] <Budgii> there is one that is a step below that as well
[17:57] <oerheks> !flavors
[17:57] <jose-phillips> secure boot is disabled
[17:57] <oerheks> mate, xubuntu, budgie ..
[17:58] <jose-phillips> but when try to reinstall i always get the message that the data stored is for legacy boot . if i want to "force uefi installation" i hit yes
[17:58] <jose-phillips> and still doesn't work
[17:58] <Nick21_> Hmmmm.
[17:58] <Nick21_> I will try that.
[17:58] <Budgii> yeah I'm on budgie and I love it.
[17:59] <Budgii> id go with Xubuntu though, haven't tried mate
[17:59] <Budgii> there is a live one that you can test like 10 flavors
[17:59] <Budgii> you should do that then you'll know what you need
[18:02] <oerheks> one can always play youtube in terminal .. https://www.npmjs.com/package/youtube-terminal
[18:02] <nicomachus> see also `youtube-dl`
[18:03] <Budgii> https://fossbytes.com/best-lightweight-linux-distros/
[18:04] <Budgii> try that link Nick21
[18:04] <Nick21_> Thank you, Budgii.
[18:04] <Budgii> Np :)
[18:15] <decki> hello all
[18:15] <Budgii> Hello!
[18:16] <decki> where am I?
[18:16] <Budgii> I would not know the answer to that.
[18:16] <decki> just opened Hexchat and arrived here !
[18:16] <Budgii> This is #Ubuntu :)
[18:16] <akik> decki: this is internet relay chat, channel #ubuntu for technical support
[18:17] <decki> I'm using Zorin
[18:17] <Budgii> Cool!
[18:17] <oerheks> Zorin is not supported here :-)
[18:17] <decki> oops
[18:18] <dax> /join #zorinos for zorin
[18:18] <decki> how ?
[18:18] <dax> literally just type /join #zorinos
[18:18] <dax> in the same place you're typing messages
[18:18] <oerheks> or hoover over #zorinos and right click, join
[18:19] <decki> Thank you !
[18:19] <oerheks> have fun!
[18:19] <s10gopal> installed ubuntu :) but i cant see wifi
[18:20] <s10gopal> and when i turn off bt , airplane mode gets on
[18:21] <jose-phillips> any ideas of how to fix my issue
[18:24] <s10gopal> installed ubuntu :) but i cant see wifi
[18:24] <s10gopal> and when i turn off bt , airplane mode gets on
[18:26] <ianthius> leftyfb: thanks for the clue
[18:27] <DJAnonimo> hello
[18:27] <DJAnonimo> my USB audio device is listed in lsusb but not visible in alsamixer
[18:27] <DJAnonimo> anyone can help me?
[18:27] <DJAnonimo> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0d8c:013c C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM108 Audio Controller
[18:33] <oerheks> DJAnonimo, open terminal: alsamixer, hit F6, select soundcard usb
[18:33] <DJAnonimo> oerheks: soundcard is not visible in F6
[18:33] <DJAnonimo> only builtin interfaces
[18:34] <oerheks> cat /proc/asound/cards # this should show it too
[18:35] <DJAnonimo> ash: /proc/asound/cards: Permission denied
[18:36] <oerheks> works fine here
[18:36] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UsbAudioDevices
[18:37] <Nick21_> You know what, oerheks
[18:37] <Nick21_> I will stay with this version.
[18:37] <oerheks> see the ' configuration '  part, might help
[18:37] <Nick21_> I am too lazy to change OS right now
[18:37] <emin> hey
[18:37] <Nick21_> After working hard on this OS (configuring wifi, and installing a lot of packages)
[18:38] <DJAnonimo> im running ubuntu 16.04 arm64
[18:38] <jimb_> Nick21_ That video card isn't even officially supported for Win >7, but it does work (for most). You may have some BIOS settings you can change that will improve matters though, such as RAM assigned to the internal video card
[18:38] <emin> you wont believe im typing on the first version of ubuntu
[18:38] <emin> 4.10
[18:39] <emin> running in virtualbox
[18:39] <Nick21_> jimb, perhaps how can I change or look for those settings?
[18:39] <Nick21_> jimb_*
[18:39] <oerheks> DJAnonimo, arm64 or amd64 ?
[18:39] <DJAnonimo> oerheks: i was missing cats
[18:39] <jimb_> Nick21_ Probably need to press DEL while booting
[18:39] <oerheks> no clue about arm, if it works
[18:39] <DJAnonimo>  0 [sndhdmi        ]: sndhdmi - sndhdmi
[18:39] <DJAnonimo>                       sndhdmi
[18:39] <DJAnonimo>  1 [audiocodec     ]: audiocodec - audiocodec
[18:39] <DJAnonimo>                       audiocodec
[18:39] <DJAnonimo> here is the output
[18:39] <DJAnonimo> well there is no USB listed
[18:40] <nicomachus> !paste | DJAnonimo
[18:40] <Nick21_> Yes, I have entered the BIOS before, jimb_, but how can I specifically look for that part
[18:40] <jimb_> Nick21_ I am not sure what it will be called in your BIOS, should be something like "SHARED RAM" or similar and be right around any other video settings such as "primary video display"
[18:41] <Nick21_> Thank you very much, jimb_, perhaps this is an Aspire 9410Z
[18:41] <jimb_> I'll look real quick, one moment
[18:41] <DJAnonimo> oerheks: did you see the ouput?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, try sudo modprobe snd_usb_audio, if there are no errors then reboot
[18:41] <Nick21_> Thank you so much, jimb_
[18:41] <oerheks> DJAnonimo, yes, but i have no clue about arm, if it works
[18:42] <oerheks> there is #ubuntu-arm too, here on #freenode
[18:42] <DJAnonimo> modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_usb_audio not found in directory /lib/modules/3.10.102+
[18:42] <BluesKaj> ummer
[18:43] <BluesKaj> bummer even
[18:43] <jimb_> Well, I see it's F2 to enter the BIOS, having trouble finding a doc that shows it
[18:44] <Nick21_> Yeah, let me wander around the BIOS, jimb_, thank you mate, I will be back and tell you of the outcome
[18:44] <jimb_> Nick21_ You are very welcome
[18:44] <Nick21_> :)
[18:44] <DJAnonimo> BluesKaj: any idea why there is no modeule and how to get it installed?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, there doesn't seem to be a linux driver available, so far
[18:46] <DJAnonimo> hmm
[18:47] <DJAnonimo> on my laptop with ubuntu is detected without problems and listed in the mixer
[18:51] <Nick21> jimb_, all I found was Max DVMT, 128 MB and 64 MB for the video memory allocation setting.
[18:51] <jimb_> Was it at 128MB?
[18:52] <Nick21> No
[18:52] <Nick21> It was at Max DVMT.
[18:52] <jimb_> Oh, OK. Then that's probably the best you can do if your system has dynamic memory allocation like that :(
[18:52] <Nick21> Ah dammit.
[18:53] <jimb_> Nick21_ Although, it might be worth trying the 128MB setting as perhaps the DVMT portion isn't playing nice with Ubuntu
[18:53] <Nick21> Hm, I will try that :)
[18:53] <Nick21> Thank you mate. jimb_ I will let you know about the outcome :)
[18:54] <jimb_> Nick21_ You are welcome :)
[18:54] <Nick21> :D
[18:57] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, well then find the driver name of the CM108 Audio Controller on your laptop so we can use it to load the correct module, sudo lshw -C sound
[18:58] <BluesKaj> +
[18:58] <DJAnonimo> BluesKaj: ok. i will try. let me power on the laptop
[18:59] <dooms> Hi
[19:00] <Nick21> jimb_, I am not feeling a difference in the performance or whatsoever, the same YouTube streaming issue (when playing fast motion images and HD videos)
[19:00] <dooms> i dont know if anybody can help me... since few days, i'm using the 18.04 unstable version of ubuntu. i was using netflix without any problem, but since today, without even an update, i couldnt watch any video on netflix, but other sites works well (youtube, etc...)
[19:00] <dooms> anybody got an idea ?
[19:00] <leftyfb> dooms: go to #ubuntu+1 for unreleased versions of ubuntu
[19:01] <dooms> leftyfb thx
[19:02] <Nick21> jimb_ is there a way I can change the VRAM allocated, manually?
[19:02] <jimb_> Nick21 Sorry, that's about all I can think of at the moment. You may want to run `sudo dmesg | grep -i drm` with the settings at 128MB and then again with Max DVMT...  There is a 'Memory usable by device' line that you will want to check. With only 2G of total RAM, it's kinda stealing from Peter to pay Paul when it comes to shared video memory
[19:02] <jimb_> I think the VRAM needs to be managed by the BIOS, but I could be wrong. It was my understanding that's why DVMT was implemented.
[19:03] <Nick21> Oh alright, jimb_. Also don't be sorry, I just ran the command and it showed me some of the details for my graphics card if not all...
[19:04] <DJAnonimo> BluesKaj: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26399639/
[19:04] <Nick21> It says 256 M
[19:04] <Nick21> I see what you mean within the stealing thing, haha
[19:05] <Nick21> It doesn't have enough resources to share with the graphics card
[19:05] <jimb_> Nick21 Then you probably do want to leave DVMT at Max so your system has a chance to use all of it if needed. Odd that halving the RAM (by setting to 128MB) didn't greatly impact the video playback quality
[19:05] <Nick21> Yeah it's odd... It ran the same... :P
[19:06] <jimb_> Nick21 For educational purposes only... you may want to try using one of those YouTube video download sites... grab one of these videos and see if it plays better with something like VLC or not
[19:06] <Nick21> jimb_, I remember I used to run Ubuntu on this laptop and everything ran smoothly, perhaps it was because older versions needed less graphical processing
[19:06] <Nick21> Oh, yes, I will do that.
[19:06] <jimb_> Nick21 That... and HD could be different. Also, to save space, YouTube could be using a higher level of encoding now
[19:07] <Nick21> Yes exactly. jimb_
[19:07] <Nick21> I hate using this old potato
[19:08] <sud0x3> Nick21: I sometimes user youtube-viewer from teh cli and play videos with mpv
[19:08] <jimb_> Nick21 - When ready, plant it in the ground... maybe more will grow from it and you can cluster j/k
[19:09] <Nick21> jimb_ LMAO
[19:09] <BluesKaj> DJAnonimo, ok, now in the problem pc, run sudo modprobe snd_usbhid with the usb sound device plugged in, then reboot if there are no errors
[19:09] <Nick21> sud0x3 How exactly does that work? Is it a youtube application for Linux?
[19:10] <jimb_> This one? sud0x3    https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer
[19:10] <Nick21> jimb_ I wish I had potatoes to harvest, it would be better than using this actual potato
[19:10] <jimb_> Nick21 I know how it is, by main 2 machines were put together from garbage bin parts... but they work
[19:11] <V7> Can't kill pid
[19:11] <Nick21> Yeah, they work
[19:11] <Nick21> Sadly :P
[19:11] <Nick21> Should I use that viewer perhaps?
[19:12] <jimb_> Nick21 I don't know about you, but I'll be checking it out. That could be a useful reference for others with similar issues
[19:12] <Nick21> jimb_ I will install it
[19:14] <sud0x3> jimb_: Yes thats the one
[19:14] <Nick21> Which version of Ubuntu are you using, jimb_?
[19:14] <jimb_> Nick21 16.04.03
[19:14] <Nick21> jimb_ Ah me too.
[19:15] <sud0x3> Search results do differ from what you get in the web interface of youtube but generally gives me the results i want
[19:18] <Nick21> I'm confused on how to install it, I already added the repository
[19:18] <Nick21> For youtube-viewer
[19:18] <Nick21> :P
[19:18] <Nick21> I used the commands below
[19:18] <Nick21> Can't open perl script "Build.PL": No such file or directory
[19:19] <Nick21> jimb_  -  sud0x3
[19:19] <jimb_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install youtube-viewer
[19:19] <Nick21> Right, I had to update my system...
[19:19] <Nick21> I'm dumb. thanks mate, jimb_
[19:20] <jimb_> Nick21 No worries at all. I almost went the route of building from source
[19:20] <DJAnonimo> BluesKaj: modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_usbhid not found in directory /lib/modules/3.10.102+
[19:20] <Nick21> jimb_ Well dang.
[19:20] <nacc> DJAnonimo: is that the exact messag?
[19:21] <Nick21> jimb_ You are an expert using Ubuntu
[19:21] <jimb_> Nick21 Not even close, but I can move around and get by ;)
[19:21] <nacc> DJAnonimo: you are not running an ubuntu kernel; what version is this?
[19:21] <Nick21> jimb_ Ahhh, alright.
[19:22] <leftyfb> DJAnonimo: what version of ubuntu is this? What type of hardware are you running it on?
[19:22] <Nick21> jimb_ Then, you got the moves, mate
[19:22] <jimb_> Nick21 Thanks
[19:22] <Nick21> jimb_ Haha, you are very welcome :)
[19:23] <DJAnonimo> Ubuntu 16.04 arm64 on Orange PI
[19:23] <Nick21> Can I do some pentesting on Ubuntu?
[19:23] <Nick21> Just wondering.
[19:23] <nacc> DJAnonimo: that is not a 16.04 kernel.
[19:23] <DJAnonimo> Keernel: 3.10.102+
[19:24] <nacc> leftyfb: --^ you got a handle on figuring that out? :)
[19:24] <Nick21> jimb_
[19:24] <jimb_> Nick21 - You can do plenty. See Kali Linux, the packages installed on it or whatever it's new version is called.
[19:24] <leftyfb> nacc: negative
[19:24] <nacc> Nick21: jimb_: kali is offtopic here, fwiw
[19:24] <Nick21> jimb_ Wow, thanks. Amazing information to my ears.
[19:25] <jimb_> Nick21 nacc I new it would come up pretty soon, this channel is for support/help... chatter should be at #ubuntu-discuss or such
[19:25] <nacc> jimb_: no, kali is not ubuntu at all
[19:25] <nacc> jimb_: so that would be offtopic for #ubuntu-discuss as well
[19:26] <jimb_> Right nacc, but you can install the same packages, too many to list... so I use it as my goto
[19:26] <nacc> jimb_: not really relevant, my point was it's offtopic. nothing more.
[19:26] <Nick21> jimb_ I installed youtube-viewer, how can I install its interface?
[19:26] <Nick21> jimb_ let me guess
[19:26] <vvoland> How can I disable "negating numlock" with shift when pressing buttons from numpad? For example I have numpad button 7/HOME. Numlock switches the function of button. But when pressed with shift it produces the alternate key.
[19:26] <Nick21> sudo apt-get install gtk-youtube-viewer ???
[19:26] <Nick21> jimb_
[19:27] <jimb_> Nick21 The interface should be there... use dash to find the graphical version
[19:28] <Nick21> Dash?
[19:28] <jimb_> Windows key... then start typing youtube
[19:28] <Nick21> Oh got it, thanks jimb_
[19:28] <Nick21> Uhhh what's happening to my brain
[19:28] <Nick21> :P
[19:28] <jimb_> Nick21 As usual, you are welcome
[19:28] <Nick21> jimb_ And as usual, I thank you lots :)
[19:31] <sud0x3> Nick21: you can also use youtube-viewer at the cli
[19:39] <justme_> d
[19:41] <Nick21_> jimb_ I just had the biggest crash in history...It was exactly a crash, but the functions the mouse didn't work, as I hovered over the video it would show the playback controls, yes, but I had to restart Ubuntu using ctrl-alt-f2
[19:41] <mircx1> Hello i need please help i try find mbedtls to install that and i not see this someone can help to me?
[19:41] <Nick21_> It wasn't exactly* jimb_
[19:41] <jimb_> Nick21_ I'll watch out for that when I play around with youtube-viewer
[19:42] <Nick21_> jimb_ Yeah, it's like a bug or something./
[19:42] <Nick21_> Also, don't click fullscreen... jimb_
[19:42] <jimb_> Nick21_ I'm actually taking notes :)
[19:42] <nacc> mircx1: do you mean libmbedtls10? i donn't thinnk mbedtls is a binary
[19:43] <nacc> jimb_: Nick21_: fwiw, PPAs are not supported here either ... contact the PPA owner if there are issues
[19:43] <jimb_> Wow nacc, I didn't realize. Will do.
[19:43] <Nick21_> jimb_ Yeah, haha, this are some strong tips
[19:43] <Nick21_> these*
[19:44] <mircx1> ?
[19:44] <nacc> !ppa | jimb_: for reference
[19:44] <nacc> jimb_: you are basically giving the PPA owner root on your system, also, so it's important to definitively trust the author(s)
[19:44] <nacc> mircx1: what are you looking for precisely?
[19:45] <Nick21_> nacc Wow, I didn't know all of this
[19:45] <Bashing-om> !info libmbedtls10 xenial | mircx1 this one ? ::
[19:45] <Nick21_> nacc So basically he can control my PC?
[19:45] <mircx1> i try install from ubuntu that mbedtls SSL/TLS
[19:45] <Nick21_> jimb_ These are spooky informations
[19:45] <mircx1> but i am not find for this
[19:46] <nacc> Nick21_: well, a) you are installing the packages as root, so ... you should know what you're doing; 2) any package you install is installed by the root user, which means the installing process has root permissions
[19:46] <jimb_> Nick21_ I knew that it allows them to install whatever they want on top of what you are asking for. In this case, it's a project that is also on github. But, as nacc says, not supported here and potentially dangerous
[19:46] <nacc> Nick21_: PPAs are not special in this regard
[19:46] <nacc> mircx1: what did you try to install?
[19:47] <mircx1> i try install inspircd version 3 and when i will try install the module i get error
[19:47] <mircx1> this a error
[19:47] <Nick21_> jimb_ | nacc, so I should uninstall this application, also it isn't helping me so...It's safer to uninstall it completely right?
[19:48] <nacc> !ppa-purge | Nick21_
[19:48] <mircx1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:48] <nacc> mircx1: please don't describe your problem, but show a pastebin with the exact commands and outputs.
[19:48] <nacc> mircx1: as your description did not have sufficient details
[19:48] <mircx1> i send to you
[19:48] <Nick21_> Thanks ubottu, I will use it, and also thank you nacc for the command.
[19:49] <nacc> mircx1: you need to provide the full URL (it will have a suffix after paste.ubuntu.com)
[19:49] <Nick21_> jimb_ Well let's do this xD
[19:50] <jimb_> Nick21_ I am going to review the source code and possibly build a local version that doesn't require sudo to install. You should feel free to sudo apt-get purge youtube-viewer as well as purging the PPA
[19:51] <Nick21_> Thank you jimb_ I will do this
[19:51] <jimb_> Anytime Nick21_
[19:52] <Nick21_> I'm installing ppa purge via Synaptics.
[19:52] <Nick21_> jimb_
[19:52] <Nick21_> I am about to purge the app and purge the repo.
[19:52] <Nick21_> How do I purge this repo???
[19:52] <Nick21_> jimb_
[19:52] <Nick21_> As in I know there's a directory and a sub directory but I don't know how to put into context
[19:53] <jimb_> Nick21_ sudo ppa-purge ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[19:53] <Nick21_> Thank you
[19:53] <Nick21_> So the full command would be
[19:54] <jimb_> Nick21_ sudo apt-get purge youtube-viewer && sudo ppa-purge ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[19:54] <Nick21_> sudo apt-get purge youtube-viewer  && sudo ppa-purge
[19:54] <Nick21_> Yeah
[19:54] <BluesKaj>
[19:54] <BluesKaj>                                                                                DJAnonimo , arm drivers are hard to find , I wasn't aware you were using one of those small boards, not the same as regular pcs
[19:54] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:54] <Nick21_> jimb_ I used it like that... I'm learning lol
[19:55] <Nick21_> Thank you very much jimb_
[19:55] <jimb_> nacc for clarification, is it ok to do these and like explain what certain operators and commands mean/do ?  I'm asking because I have `add-apt-repository -y ppa:webupd8team/java` and it works? safe as in would I still be adding the same repository
[19:57] <tech10171968> Nick21 - wait until you find out how much more productive the console can be over GUI
[19:57] <tech10171968> once you get used to it, that is
[19:58] <jimb_> Nick21_ I live in the console, it's THE way to get things done on remote servers. It's why Ubuntu is the only OS we use in this house.
[19:58] <Nick21_> tech10171968   -  I want to get to that right now.
[19:58] <tech10171968> well,the best way to learn *anything* in Linux is to screw up. Seriously.
[19:58] <Nick21_> jimb_   tech10171968
[19:59] <Nick21_> This is so rewarding, yet, I need guidance to learn even more
[19:59] <Nick21_> jimb_ So practically you are married to the console
[20:00] <jimb_> Nick21_ ok to DM?
[20:00] <tech10171968> well, once the console gets routine to you, you are probably going to want to learn some scripting. IYou can automate a lot of stuff that way
[20:00] <Nick21_> tech10171968 -   I have watched some videos on how to PIMP Ubuntu and I don't know how screwed I could get doing such commands since my graphics driver aren't that supportive let's say
[20:01] <Nick21_> jimb_ Yeah
[20:01] <Nick21_> tech10171968  - You mean, learn how to code
[20:01] <tech10171968> Nick21_- Well, if you can call it that
[20:02] <tech10171968> I really mean Bash scripting
[20:02] <tech10171968> I even wrote a script a while ago to automate the compiling of my new kernels when I update them
[20:03] <BluesKaj> pimp is the incorrect word for tweaking ubuntu
[20:03] <tech10171968> I would advise looking for a copy of the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide. It can be found online and doesn't cost one red cent
[20:03] <sud0x3> Nick21_: What do you use your computer for? day to day, may be able to suggest cli replacements for you workflow
[20:04] <xs2> can I install Android Studio via PPA?
[20:06] <tech10171968> sud0x3 - that's actually a really good idea to get someone used to the terminal
[20:06] <stephii> Hi. I cannot use apt-get on ubuntu 16.04 any more, because dpkg stops with an error that it cannot unpack the kernel header files in the package, because the disk is full. But / has more than 1 gigabyte free. apt-get install -f produces that error too.
[20:06] <EriC^^> stephii: what about 'df -h /boot' ?
[20:07] <EriC^^> oh you said header files, what about 'df -i' ?
[20:07] <nacc> stephii: perhaps pastebin the exact output, as welll
[20:07] <stephii> EriC^^: oh -i shows almost 100% use
[20:07] <sud0x3> tech10171968: Thanks
[20:08] <BluesKaj> Nick21_, are you a windows 'dude', then go pimp windows. linux isn't for sale
[20:08] <EriC^^> stephii: aha, do you have lots of small files?
[20:08] <Borw3> BluesKaj: LOL
[20:08] <Southern_Gentlem> BluesKaj, LOL
[20:08] <stephii> EriC^^: I didn't know I had, but I guess. /home is on a seperate partition tho
[20:09] <sud0x3> BluesKaj: Talking about what people should call thier customisations, why do people use the term "rice" to descibe this?
[20:09] <tech10171968> stephii: i'd probably check /var/log. System logs can *really* pile up after a while, and sometimes cleaning them out can reclaim up to a gig of disk space
[20:09] <EriC^^> stephii: hmm
[20:09] <tech10171968> it's happened to me before
[20:09] <BluesKaj> sud0x3, no idea, I guess they think it's some kind of insider "speak"
[20:10] <stephii> tech10171968: thanks I already deleted the kern.log.1 file, but its only 1 file. I have to look for many small files somewhere I suppose. Have 1 GB of 9GB free on /
[20:10] <tech10171968> sud0x3: it's a term borrowed from motorheads who like to pimp out their Japanese cars
[20:11] <luc4> Hello! I’m about to install ubuntu on a new pc. The machine arrived with ubuntu 16.04 and includes a efi partition of 600MB… isn’t this weird? I’m not about to install 17.10 but I’m wondering if ubuntu is recreating the efi partition by itself or not...
[20:11] <stephii> EriC^^: this is what df -i shows for / (which has /boot) /dev/sda5      610800   610140    660  100% /
[20:11] <nacc> luc4: that's a pretty normal sized efi partition
[20:12] <tech10171968> luc4: I'm not sure but I don't think it actually does that. If I'm wrong someone let me know
[20:12] <nacc> luc4: what do you mean, 'weird'?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> sud0x3, rice, seem ricing is cosmetic enhancement for starters , but there are all kinds of other customizations
[20:12] <luc4> nacc: I see only 33MB are stored…
[20:12] <luc4> nacc: why should I waste 500MB?
[20:13] <Borw3> luc4: LOL
[20:13] <tech10171968> BlueKaj: it's not just cosmetics. For example, Gentoo users are often called "ricers", but I don't think their customization is only skin-deep
[20:13] <sud0x3> BluesKaj: tech10171968 Thanks i just wondered as i see it a lot
[20:14] <EriC^^> stephii: try "for i in /var /boot /etc; do echo -e "$(sudo find $i | wc -l)\t$i"; done | sort -n"
[20:14] <stephii> I think i could remove old kernel and header files, but with apt-get not working its probably not safe to delete them from the /usr/src/ directories?
[20:14] <nacc> luc4: if you want to fiddle with it, you can try, but you'll probably make your system unbootable. Is 500M actually enough for you to care on your system?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> google foo is your friend, sud0x3
[20:14] <sud0x3> BluesKaj: I know but i didnt want a generic answer
[20:14] <luc4> nacc: I’m installing ubuntu now, so now or never :-)
[20:14] <EriC^^> stephii: mine reports 624 for boot, 15144 for /var and 3145 for /etc as a reference
[20:14] <nacc> luc4: i thought it already had ubuntu?
[20:14] <sud0x3> Like using google as a term for searching the internet :)
[20:15] <tech10171968> stephii: then you may have to do that by hand. Old kernel files can also be pretty hefty
[20:15] <Budgii> Budgie users: can i have my application icons on my panel instead of the dock?
[20:15] <nacc> luc4: annd you said you're "not about to install 17.10"
[20:15] <luc4> nacc: yes, 16.04
[20:15] <EriC^^> stephii: try 'sudo apt-get autoclean' to free up some space
[20:15] <Budgii> Or at least what is running to be on there.
[20:15] <luc4> nacc: not :-), sorry, I meant now
[20:15] <luc4> nacc: just a typo
[20:15] <Borw3> LOL, people use Budgie?
[20:15] <sud0x3> Budgii: i beleive so, when i tried budgie there was a firefox icon next to the main menu icon
[20:15] <nacc> luc4: ah ok
[20:15] <Budgii> budgie is awesome I love it
[20:15] <Budgii> Just got it
[20:15] <nacc> luc4: i mean, i'd just leave it. it's not doing any harm, and i believe might be specified by the efi spec (but that's just my recollection)
[20:16] <BluesKaj> tech10171968, gentoo users also like hair shirts :-)
[20:16] <stephii> thanks EriC^^ I'll look at the find command. I've tried autoremove, but it doesnt work because of unmet dependencies with the kernel headers
[20:16] <tech10171968> BluesKaj: LOL!!!
[20:16] <EriC^^> luc4: 33mb would work if you're really keen on saving the mb's
[20:16] <stephii> EriC^^: sorry you meant autoclean. didnt free inodes :)
[20:17] <Budgii> @Borw3, curiosity; what version do you operate?
[20:18] <EriC^^> stephii: literally any deletion would be good, old files in /var/tmp etc
[20:18] <EriC^^> stephii: maybe copy stuff temporarily like logs to your /home partition
[20:18] <gavin> exit
[20:18] <EriC^^> stephii: probably though stick with the find approach and try to see where all the inodes are going
[20:19] <luc4> EriC^^: is it supposed to get larger in the future? I’m in doubt now on how to install ubuntu. The installer is asking if I want to use the entire disk: will this keep the efi partition?
[20:21] <EriC^^> luc4: i'm not sure about that, can you take a screenshot of it?
[20:22] <tech10171968> or you could just run GParted, and it will show you the exact makeup of your disk
[20:25] <stephii> EriC^^: I have 323 in boot, 2313 in etc, 8918 in var and 463769 in usr/src (which I added to your command)
[20:26] <EriC^^> stephii: aha that's excessive, i have 50k in /usr/src
[20:27] <rfleming> Hi!  How do I stop Ubuntu from installing new printers?
[20:27] <rfleming> I'm in an office and I don't want them all
[20:27] <EriC^^> that's the problem i guess, it's around 75% of your total inodes
[20:28] <stephii> yes. there are tons of old kernel files in usr/src, could i rm -rf the oldest set and then use apt-get to remove what else it wants to autoremove?
[20:28] <EriC^^> stephii: what does /usr/src have?
[20:28] <EriC^^> stephii: sure go for it
[20:29] <EriC^^> check the inode usage again afterwards with df -i
[20:30] <stephii> 27k free instead of 600 after deleting the oldest kernel files
[20:30] <EriC^^> that's still alot
[20:31] <EriC^^> stephii: try "for i in /usr/share/*; do echo -e "$(sudo find $i | wc -l)\t$i"; done | sort -n"
[20:31] <luc4> EriC^^: https://pasteboard.co/H3eSso6.png
[20:32] <EriC^^> luc4: i think that ignores your input and just erases the disk and install ubuntu with its own default specs
[20:33] <luc4> EriC^^: will that erase efi and create a new one?
[20:33] <EriC^^> luc4: it should create a fat32 though and everything you might need
[20:33] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:33] <EriC^^> i guess so
[20:33] <Checkmate> i have run command on putty to import sql file i want to close the terminal, is the job will be killed or not?
[20:33] <luc4> EriC^^: should I backup the previous efi partition?
[20:34] <EriC^^> Checkmate: yeah, unless you run it in screen it usually will get killed when you close the terminal
[20:35] <EriC^^> luc4: not unless you have another os like windows that boots off it
[20:35] <stephii> EriC^^: in /usr/share the largest one is almost 30k for icons, followed by doc with 8k. But deleting just the oldest headers allowed apt-get to work again :) I also all other old kernel headers that are not seen by grub and which were not removed by autoremove
[20:35] <EriC^^> stephii: oh sorry i meant /usr/src, my bad
[20:35] <Checkmate> yes Eric i forgot screen command
[20:36] <stephii> EriC^^: I now have 60% of my inodes free. Thanks a lot for your help!
[20:36] <EriC^^> stephii: great, no problem!
[20:36] <EriC^^> Checkmate: can you kill it and rerun in screen?
[20:37] <Checkmate> EriC^^ i cant its already 1 day left with 50% i cant start from beginning , my laptop get update and its needed to restart
[20:37] <luc4> EriC^^: thanks!
[20:37] <EriC^^> luc4: no problem!
[20:39] <Checkmate> EriC^^ there is no way ?
[20:41] <Checkmate> EriC^^ are you sure the sqlimport will be killed after the terminal closed!!
[20:41] <EriC^^> Checkmate: 1 sec let me try something
[20:42] <Budgii> Is python the main lainguage for Tilix?
[20:42] <Checkmate> ok THanks
[20:43] <bray90820_> Where would be a good place to get help with the ubuntu windows 10 app?
[20:43] <Budgii> I don't know what that is- but it sounds interesting. What does it do?
[20:44] <bray90820_> It's basically an ubuntu subsystem for windows
[20:44] <Budgii> is it a VM?
[20:44] <bray90820_> It's an app from the windows 10 store
[20:45] <Budgii> ah. obvious answer I am giving, but maybe google it haha
[20:45] <Budgii> Sorry i'm no help. :)
[20:45] <lordcirth_work> bray90820_,  #ubuntu-on-windows
[20:45] <Bashing-om> !ubunwin
[20:46] <akik> Budgii: it's a system call emulator that microsoft and canonical created. it's basically a ubuntu system with no gui and no services
[20:46] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin
[20:46] <EriC^^> Checkmate: this might work, haven't tested it, https://serverfault.com/questions/55880/moving-an-already-running-process-to-screen
[20:47] <akik> Budgii: but people have done things with it that it wasn't designed to do
[20:47] <xs2> how can I assume default path and accept license with umake?
[20:47] <EriC^^> Checkmate: i just tried ctrl+z , bg, then disown %<job number> and it didn't work, fwiw
[20:47] <Checkmate> EriC^^ ok wait a sec
[20:47] <Budgii> @akik, gotcha. I think I did see something like that the other day when looking for this OS. What have they done?
[20:47] <nacc> Budgii: not ontopic here
[20:47] <EriC^^> Checkmate: try the link's suggestion on another program first to see if it actually works
[20:48] <akik> Budgii: you can run xorg apps from it if you install a x windows server on windows side
[20:48] <EriC^^> Checkmate: it's actually in the ubuntu repos, sudo apt-get install reptyr
[20:48] <EriC^^> *trying it*
[20:49] <xs2> what is this today am I blocked or what
[20:49] <Budgii> Hmm. Alright
[20:49] <xs2> I asked 10 question none of which got answered
[20:49] <Budgii> So i'm just looking to learn basics of the terminal.. when I type in Google Chrome, it doesn't recognize it to open it.
[20:49] <lordcirth_work> xs2, then no one knew the answers.
[20:50] <xs2> I'm sure it's a conspiracy
[20:50] <Budgii> lol
[20:50] <Borw3> LOL
[20:50] <jimb_> Budgii google-chrome-stable
[20:51] <Budgii> @jimb_ score! thanks. How would I know the name for other programs to open, such as HexChat or Chromium?
[20:51] <jimb_> xs2 - I have seen a few messages for you. Not blocked as of 10 minutes ago as far as I can tell
[20:52] <xs2> hm for me? as in someone answered me?
[20:52] <jimb_> Budgii A good start, is to type the first few chars then hit tab a few times to autocomplete
[20:52] <jimb_> xs2 - I don't know offhand how to make umake accept the license etc
[20:53] <xs2> no worries
[20:53] <Budgii> jimb_ YESSS just what I needed!
[20:54] <lordcirth_work> xs2, I haven't used umake, how does it prompt for licence acceptance?
[20:54] <jimb_> Budgii - I am lazy, so I overuse autocomplete all the time.
[20:55] <auronandace> oerheks: thanks for the help regarding unblocking the wifi (i was ThinkT510 earlier). I found out that the ideapad_laptop module was to blame so I had to blacklist it and wifi is working again
[20:55] <jimb_> xs2 - I did find that some packages allow for `--accept-license` ... however, I don't think it's a standard, so you may have to try each of them in question and find out what they accept via umake -h <lib>
[20:56] <xs2> I wasn't prompted for license acceptance but saw a tutorial uses `--accept-license` (for instance when installing Android Studio and SDK), yet man doesn't say anything about --accept-license and some pkg's error out. as for the default path, it just requires you to press enter (or enter the path)
[20:59] <jimb_> xs2 - ` --auto-accept` should work for frameworks without licensing to prevent prompting
[20:59] <jimb_> xs2 - Maybe not anymore. That's about all I can offer... going dark.
[20:59] <xs2> thanks jimb_!
[20:59] <EriC^^> Checkmate: seems to be working for me if i use root, and reptyr -T <pid> , i dont get any output from the program but it still shows up in ps aux
[21:00] <xs2> might someone know does `--auto-accept` prevents path prompting?
[21:00] <xs2> s/prevents/prevent/
[21:00] <Checkmate> EriC^^
[21:01] <Checkmate> i need to stop last session shell by CTRL+Z
[21:01] <Checkmate> or i open another session the put the command
[21:01] <Checkmate> its work but what about last session
[21:02] <Checkmate> i need to kill it ?
[21:03] <EriC^^> Checkmate: in a root shell, type "screen" and then type "reptyr -T <pid here>"
[21:04] <Checkmate> EriC^^ ok let me try with simple ping google.fr
[21:06] <mindspoof> Evening
[21:07] <Checkmate> EriC^^ i think its work
[21:07] <EriC^^> great
[21:07] <Checkmate> but mysql if get stopped will start from the first right ?
[21:08] <EriC^^> no idea there
[21:08] <Checkmate> [1]   Killed                  ping google.fr
[21:08] <Checkmate> [2]+  Stopped                 ping google.fr
[21:08] <xs2> in case someone needs it; you can `umake app destdir arg`
[21:08] <Checkmate> after reptyr
[21:08] <xs2> also `umake -h app` to see allowed args
[21:08] <EriC^^> just remember to 'ctrl+a -> d' so it detaches and gives a message before exiting
[21:09] <Checkmate> i'm using tmux
[21:09] <Checkmate> https://gist.github.com/henrik/1967800
[21:09] <jimb_> In the case of TMUX, it's CTRL-B then D
[21:10] <Checkmate> thanks jimb_
[21:10] <jimb_> yw
[21:11] <Checkmate> EriC^^ if i do reptyr on mysql will be stopped ??
[21:11] <Checkmate> im afraid that he will return it from the beginning
[21:14] <EriC^^> Checkmate: can you try a test on your local pc?
[21:15] <Checkmate> you mean by mysql ok wait i will create another database
[21:20] <rsaw6002> Anyone have any idea why ntp:i386 package wont install on 16.04 64 bit machine with i386 arch enabled?
[21:22] <leftyfb> rsaw6002: no, but why do you need the 33bit version of ntp if you're not 32bit?
[21:23] <rsaw6002> leftyfb: lol. Cause the software im trying to install depends on it and only has a 32 bit .deb package
[21:24] <Checkmate> EriC^^ i'm not sure thanks maybe i will use it after some hours
[21:26] <rsaw6002> leftyfb: just thought i’d check here before wiping and reloading 14.04 32 bit as recommended by the software vendor. Ive ran it on 16.04 64 bit in the past.
[21:26] <leftyfb> rsaw6002: what is this software that is requiring you to take steps backward?
[21:27] <rsaw6002> ExacqVision Video Management Server
[21:27] <leftyfb> rsaw6002: also, what is the error you get when trying to install ntp:i386?
[21:27] <Ben64> weird for it to depend on ntp
[21:28] <rsaw6002> I forget, something about broken depends,
[21:28] <jimb_> Ah, commercial video surveillance... they want a reliable timestamp. Odd to look for the older version though
[21:29] <leftyfb> rsaw6002: we can't troubleshoot "something about...". Can you paste the error to pastebin.ubunut.com?
[21:29] <rsaw6002> leftyfb: effe it, im reloading a 32bit OS and getting out of here.
[21:29] <leftyfb> jimb_: 32bit doesn't necessarily mean older
[21:29] <Guma> I was wondering if there is a way to force install low latency kernels when doing initial installation (16.04.3)? I noticed that apt list shows -low latency  versions specific Or Do I have to install it manually after full initial setup
[21:30] <jimb_> leftyfb, You are correct.
[21:30] <leftyfb> rsaw6002: sure, just be aware. You'll need to upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu next year
[21:30] <rsaw6002> leftyfb: i know. Im just venting. I hate when vendors wont keep things up to date.
[21:30] <leftyfb> Guma: the latter, unless you want to get into preseeding
[21:31] <rsaw6002> leftyfb: yep. Im gonna try to get my client off of this software release. Exacq has a 64 bit package now but the client doesnt want to pay for the upgrade since they bought the software just over a year ago
[21:34] <ystein> Thunderbird in 16.04 is on version 52.5.0, but the newest from Mozilla is 52.5.2 which fixes several security issues. Will these updates land in the 16.04 repos eventually?
[21:43] <sara_> hello world, is there any alternative to maya (graphics program) on Linux, thanks
[21:44] <Guma> leftyfb I just tried it. After installing same kernel version low latency (vs original generic) I can login to my desktop. I type password and I get kicked back to login prompt. But I an ssh to this machine with same credentials jsut fine
[21:48] <Ben64> sara_: yes, maya
[21:48] <webbb> hi
[21:48] <auronandace> sara_: maybe blender
[21:48] <webbb> Is it possible to mount something into a folder structure of something else mounted?
[21:48] <webbb> or is this not possible? :/
[21:49] <Ben64> webbb: it is
[22:11] <voidDotClass> I'm on 16.10. apt-get update gives me a few errors, even on http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lxc/lxd-stable/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[22:12] <voidDotClass> why is http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lxc/lxd-stable/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages giving a 403?
[22:13] <squealingcode> Sounds weird. Your date/time is not off by any chance?
[22:14] <squealingcode> lol cannot even access it in the browser
[22:14] <krytarik> !16.10
[22:17] <voidDotClass> krytarik, 1) Is it possible to run apt-get install and not have it exit due to that error, 2) is it possible to upgrade in place?
[22:17] <voidDotClass> !eolupgrade
[22:19] <voidDotClass> I actually have 16.04 LTS sorry
[22:19] <voidDotClass> so I should still be supported
[22:19] <voidDotClass> krytarik,
[22:19] <krytarik> Yeah, figured.
[22:20] <krytarik> Also yes, there is something funky with that PPA right now.
[22:20] <voidDotClass> krytarik, is it possible to ignore that error just so i can continue with my installation?
[22:21] <krytarik> You could disable the source for now, yes.
[22:21] <voidDotClass> i'm trying to install npm and doing curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_9.x | sudo -E bash -
[22:21] <voidDotClass> sudo apt-get install -y nodejs
[22:21] <voidDotClass> how do i do that krytarik? commenting it out in sources.list ?
[22:21] <krytarik> Yeah, for example.
[22:22] <voidDotClass> i'll try that
[22:22] <voidDotClass> !16.04
[22:23] <Edgeman> What would cause a system (virtual machine) to completely hang a few minutes after finishing boot? This was a 16.04.3 server that I just upgraded to 17.10. No output in /var/log/syslog or on the console when it locks up. Network goes down and console is unresponsive afterwards.
[22:25] <Mr_R_Arifin> mint
[22:25] <du5tball> hello. i'm trying to open a kernel bug. question: how the heck do i do this? when i try to open the bug, it leads me to a wiki page which isn't helpful at all
[22:26] <du5tball> incorrect wording. a kernel bug, which i've found with ubuntu.
[22:27] <voidDotClass> i'm seeing a lot of different xenial sources in sources.list
[22:27] <voidDotClass> should i comment all of them?
[22:29] <voidDotClass> I commented out all the lines with xenial in /etc/apt/sources.list but still seeing 'E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lxc/lxd-stable/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden' when i try to run apt-get install
[22:34] <Bashing-om> voidDotClass: I would expect that PPA to be in the 3rd party directory : /etc/apt/sources.list.d : ' cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list ' to see the files .
[22:36] <kjarsty> does anyone have experience fixing issues with installing ubuntu on an asus t100taf?
[22:37] <brainwash> du5tball: did you run the command "ubuntu-bug linux"?
[22:38] <du5tball> brainwash: command not found. and if you expect me to do that from the customer server: i'm not gonna do that. who knows what that transmits.
[22:40] <nacc> du5tball: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug
[22:41] <nacc> du5tball: the reason nthat wiki page exists, depending on what 'when i try to open the bug' means -- is that most people file garbage bug reports
[22:42] <du5tball> nacc: understandably. however, in my mind it's also a reflection on ubuntu itself
[22:43] <nacc> du5tball: what is?
[22:43] <nacc> du5tball: annd which URL did you use?
[22:43] <nacc> du5tball: tbh, the llogs that ubutu-bug transmits are goign to need to be transmitted eventually anyways
[22:45] <brainwash> also, there is #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-kernel
[22:45] <brainwash> in case you have a more specific question
[22:47] <du5tball> nacc: i landed on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/, and clicked the "report a bug" on the right
[22:47] <nacc> du5tball: how did you land there?
[22:47] <nacc> du5tball: that is reporting a bug in 'ubuntu', which is not a package, but the entire OS
[22:48] <nacc> err, wait
[22:48] <nacc> du5tball: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ -> "Report a bug" takes me directly to the correct page to report the bug
[22:48] <webbb> Ben64: I mounted a VirtualBox shared folder and VirtualBox doesn't follow Windows Junctions yet (bug is known but still not fixed, sadly) so I have to mount that junction myself as a 2nd VirtualBox shared folder mount - into the existing folder structure
[22:48] <du5tball> nacc: by googling "ubuntu bug". thing is, i have a bug in overlayfs. i assume it's kernel specific, as it doesn't happen on other distributions.
[22:48] <du5tball> nacc: then we both see different things apparently. may also be because my account was just created
[22:49] <nacc> du5tball: were you logged in?
[22:49] <nacc> du5tball: in any case, you can use the url i provided
[22:49] <du5tball> yes i was logged in :)
[22:49] <nacc> du5tball: please read the documentation on that page to provide a useful bug report
[22:50] <Guma> Is there a way to lock current kernel (after some testing) and prevent it in any way from upgrading to any other version?
[22:50] <nacc> Guma: why would you want to do that?
[22:50] <brainwash> !pinning
[22:50] <nacc> you don't need pinning to do this
[22:50] <brainwash> !hold
[22:51] <nacc> just remove the metapackages
[22:51] <du5tball> nacc: i think by now i'm good at writing bug reports :) archlinux and redhat have tortured me in that regard
[22:51] <nacc> but again, why is the relevant question for Guma
[22:51] <nacc> du5tball: ok
[22:51] <Guma> Ok so what would be thee exact command to lock/pin current kernel
[22:52] <Guma> So it is pinning that is the best correct way?
[22:52] <nacc> Guma: what are you trying to do? What you are asking for wil lleave your system unsupported.
[22:52] <goptimus> hi
[22:54] <Guma> I am trying to make master image and set it up by default that it can not be upgraded. I know I can remove user from sudo. But such users will need this access. So all I want to do it lock current kernel so when someone does apt0get diet-upgrade it will not upgrade kernel. Ofcourse he will be able to unlock it if he really wants to.
[22:54] <Guma> So I am just trying to prevent accidental kernel updates.
[22:55] <nacc> Guma: ... but why?
[22:55] <nacc> Guma: you want your image to be insecure?
[22:56] <nacc> and/or have bugs, I guess
[22:56] <Borw3> ~ubuntu
[22:57] <Guma> No I want to control what version it is installed by default. Well to tell you the truth I know this is not the best solution. I come from RH so I am new on administration on Ubuntu. I guess I would like to setup "slave" machine where all my client machines point to this machine for any updates. So my master image would point for any updates to my slave machine. But since I am not familiar with this setup yet I am looking for something
[22:57] <Guma>  quick.
[22:58] <Guma> Unless you guys have proper solutions how to control production updates. So everyone is always on the same version
[22:58] <Guma> Or at least prevent from untested software to be upgraded
[22:59] <Guma> If that is not to hard and time consuming to setup I would go this route vs pinning like suggested above
[22:59] <nacc> Guma: it sounds like you a) want to create your own archive mirror, I guess and b) aren't really answering my question
[22:59] <kjarsty> I have successfully installed ubuntu 16.04 on an asus t100taf. However the efi partition tries booting windows recovery instead of grub.  How can I force the efi partition to boot grub?
[22:59] <nacc> Guma: becuase your suggested model does leave your machines insecure and buggy until you choose to update them
[23:00] <nacc> Guma: if that's really what you want, just remove the linux-image, linux-image-generic metapackages, and the kernel will stop getting new versions
[23:00] <nacc> (I believe)
[23:01] <Guma> nacc To answer your question I do not wish to leave machines secured. At the same time myself and my team will work on checking for updates and testing them with our home grown software. When we are ok with it then prod would updated from archive server.
[23:01] <Guma> So I do not intend leave machines not updated for months
[23:01] <nacc> Guma: your home grown software is that intertwined to the kernel?
[23:02] <Guma> But at the same time I wan to control else I might do much more support that I need to
[23:02] <Guma> nacc yes some devices drivers for some machines. But not all
[23:03] <Guma> So what it takes to setup archive server?
[23:03] <Guma> on 16.04
[23:04] <nacc> Guma: I don't think you really want to do that, but better aksed in #ubuntu-server
[23:13] <Guma> nacc of I will switch later. On another note when you stated "just remove the metapackages" Can you expend on it?
[23:14] <Guma> I see that I could do "apt-mark manual" to lock kernel from auto remove. But it still could be upgraded
[23:18] <dmenezes> Which Los Angles time zone should I use
[23:18] <dmenezes> there are two: one for the airport and one for USC campus
[23:18] <gordonjcp> dmenezes: interesting, are there really two time zones in Los Angeles?
[23:18] <dmenezes> No but the clocks app lists two
[23:19] <gordonjcp> dmenezes: the answer is, of course, neither
[23:19] <gordonjcp> dmenezes: you should be using GMT, like a civilised person
[23:19] <gordonjcp> dmenezes: joking aside, I wonder if it pulls NTP from one or the other, or maybe weather data?
[23:25] <semitones_tea> If I'm formatting an external HDD to use with ubuntu, but also read/writable with windows ext2fsd (http://www.ext2fsd.com/?p=236) how can I finetune the partition? Some of the features it doesn't support are 64-bit mode, Journaling (?), Extended Attributes, and ACL support.
[23:42] <nacc> Guma: sorry, was afk
[23:42] <Guma> np
[23:42] <nacc> Guma: there are metapackages that ensure you always have the latest kernel update
[23:42] <nacc> Guma: linux-image which in turn depends on linux-image-generic, iirc
[23:44] <Guma> nacc When I do apt list  and grep for linux-image the list I get is a metapackage. So removing such meta package sounds dangerous. What about if I want to enable it back?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> semitones_tea: If you're using it to hold / transfer files like videos / documents that don't tend to need special permissions information it's often easier to use NTFS, as Ubuntu supports NTFS quite well.
[23:45] <Guma> So if I have the meta package name I could to apt-mark manual metap_kg_name to prevent autoremove
[23:45] <semitones_tea> Jordan_U, fair enough -- although if it will be used for ubuntu 99% of the time, and windows only if necessary, will I get better features/performance out of ext4?
[23:45] <Guma> is apt hold meta package will work?
[23:46] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, Hello. I'm the guy whose Ubuntu 16.04 won't boot from yesterday
[23:46] <nacc> Guma: so, for instance, on bionic currently, linux-image-generic ensures that the current version of linux-image-4.13.0-29-generic is installed
[23:46] <Jordan_U> Guma: linux-image-generic is the important metapackage to have installed.
[23:46] <nacc> Guma: in turn, you could pin the linux-image-x.x.x-x-generic package at a specific version
[23:46] <nacc> Guma: but the way to ensure no *new* kernel packages get installed is to remove the metapackages
[23:47] <nacc> I guess you could pin the meta package at the current version, alternatively
[23:47] <Guma> Aha. So I would not pin on linux-image-generic since this is always the latest. I would have to pin on specific version
[23:47] <nacc> Guma: well pinning generially is to a version
[23:48] <Guma> Do I have to pin linux-image-x.x.x-x-generic. That would be the top level package I only need pin? What about any package that this linux-image-x.x.x-x-generic depend on?
[23:48] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Hey . Ya find a way to boot the Mac ?
[23:49] <RichardCavell> Not quite
[23:49] <RichardCavell> It's failing during boot sequence
[23:49] <RichardCavell> I have disabled swap, which has solved the problem of swap failing.
[23:49] <RichardCavell> But at a point in the boot sequence about 5 seconds in, it just suddenly powers off
[23:49] <nacc> Guma: as i said, you might be able to pin linux-image-generic
[23:50] <nacc> Guma: not sure what you mean, specifically, those packages won't move because of linux-image-x.x.x-x-generic, but might for other reasons
[23:50] <RichardCavell> If I leave the computer unattended, it just does that in a continuous cycle - power on, starts to boot, then sudden reboot as though it has been power-cycled, and repeat
[23:50] <Guma> Also when we state pin real command is "apt hold" unless there is another command. Just making sure
[23:50] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: How about we try amd boot explicitly from grub - still no experience with Mac's but can not hurt to try and see what errors we get .
[23:50] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, Okay
[23:50] <RichardCavell> I am able to get to a root prompt.  Will that help?
[23:51] <nacc> Guma: if you really want to statically image the whole OS that's a different problem
[23:51] <nacc> Guma: no holding and pinning are different
[23:51] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: GPT partitioning .. lemme have a bit to think up how .
[23:51] <Guma> So if I do "apt hold linux-image-generic" that will prevent upgrades until I do "unhold"
[23:51] <nacc> Guma: please read `man apt-mark` and `man apt_preferences`
[23:52] <nacc> Guma: former for hold, latter for pinning
[23:52] <nacc> Guma: to that specific package, which is generally the way most systems get updates
[23:52] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: If you can get a root prompt .. then it is not a grub issue .
[23:52] <Guma> nacc Will do so not. Will come back if I have more questions. Thank you all for now :)
[23:52] <nacc> Guma: yeah, test it all, of course
[23:53] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Remind me again, what release are we working with ?
[23:54] <Guma> nacc One more thing. Any suggested links or tutorials about setting ups archive server so I am read about it as well
[23:54] <RichardCavell> 16.04 MATE 64-bit and remember that my computer suffers from this issue: https://mattgadient.com/2016/07/11/linux-dvd-images-and-how-to-for-32-bit-efi-macs-late-2006-models/
[23:54] <Guma> Also does archive will allow me to control updates? Or could I also use this server to host out own deb packages as well
[23:55] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: reading .. 32 bit ?? We may have a problem .
[23:56] <nacc> Guma: as suggested, i'd ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:56] <Guma> nacc Yes that is correct. Sorry :)
[23:56] <RichardCavell> It booted fine for a couple of years but stopped working.  I speculate that at some point something has been updated and Ubuntu overwrote the files that are relevant to that URL
[23:57] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, Note that this is the first time that I have tried to boot Ubuntu since the 4.13 kernel and the Spectre/Meltdown patches were applied.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: "you’ve probably got a 64-bit EFI so most 64-bit Linux distros should install and run. " ... is this the later iMac ?
[23:58] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: ^^ and have you tried to boot up with an older kernel ?
[23:59] <mekarpeles> Anyone aware of a channel for #festival text to speech?
[23:59] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, No, I have a 32-bit EFI!  That's why I have to use the special disk images from that website.  It's an 11 year old iMac, called an iMac5,1.  I have tried to boot with kernel 4.10 (which is still installed, alongside 4.13) but it doesn't work either, even in recovery mode


[06:58] <z428> Hi all; installed 18.04 and tried to install vanilla GNOME. Mostly works - except for an ugly purple background image in GNOME lock screen. How to remove / change this? Messing with gdm3.css didn't change things.
[18:45] <_UsUrPeR_>  Hey all. I'm running a 5 monitor setup with gnome flashback on ubuntu 16.04, and I'm having a problem with the virtual screen size, and maximized windows being covered up by the top panel.
[18:45] <_UsUrPeR_>  when I maximize a window, the top of the window ends up under the top panel with applications and places and whatnot
[18:45] <_UsUrPeR_>  any hints?


[01:43] <ubot4> In ubot4, Jeff_Martin said: !foo is foo
[10:56] <erUSUL> !ubottu
[10:58] <erUSUL> !ubottu noxconf is <reply>Newer releases of Xorg graphic Server do not need a configuration file and can figure out what they need at runtime that's why yuor xorg.conf may be blank. If xorg.conf is not blank it is followed though.
[11:09] <jussi01> erUSUL: lose the ! next time ;)
[11:10] <erUSUL> jussi01: ¬.¬
[11:10] <erUSUL> ubottu noxconf is <reply>Newer releases of Xorg graphic Server do not need a configuration file and can figure out what they need at runtime that's why your xorg.conf may be blank. If xorg.conf is not blank it is followed though.
[11:11] <jussi01> hrm, that kind of works, you can just do !factoid is <reply> also, but yeah
[14:09] <djones> If anybody is around with access to #ubuntu, can you set a ban on Gons01 spamming a link at 14:05 & again at 14:06 (didn't think it was worth an o p s call in the channel)
[14:10] <Pici> djones: I'll take a look, but in the future, if theres an issue in #ubuntu, you can come into #ubuntu-ops to report
[14:10] <djones> ok, will do
[14:10] <Pici> -irc is really only for loco team irc stuff.
[14:11] <djones> yeah, I should have thought of that, sorry, i'll remember next time


[13:51] <Havenstance> anyone in here able to take a look at a samba config I'm running on 18.04 lts? I can view the share on my windows box, however I cannot actually write anything to it
[13:51] <Havenstance> I swear I've looked at permissions a million times but I'm missing something in there
[13:55] <Havenstance> https://pastebin.com/BuCnWf5L
[13:56] <Havenstance> I've asked in #samba too so just incase someone here knew I thought I'd bounce it off the bunch of sysadmins I know are in here lol
[14:13] <Havenstance> have to reboot this machine.... I forgot the sudo password xD
[14:27] <Havenstance> welp that's embarassing, I broke this box lol
[14:49] <cmaloney> Havenstance: Lovely. :)
[14:49] <cmaloney> Re: samba: I've had as little experience with it as possible, so sadly I'm of no help there.
[15:00] <Havenstance> eh, it's okay it's majaro anyway, I thought I read ubuntu had a 20.04 lts out now?
[15:00] <Havenstance> im gonna look in a bit and if that's true it's going on top of this manjaro lol
[15:01] <Havenstance> as far as samba goes, im thinking it just doesn't like to share with windows
[15:01] <cmaloney> It depends on the Windows
[15:01] <cmaloney> it's crabby if AD is there anywhere in the system
[15:01] <Havenstance> so I may just use a small windows xp vm to share those volumes if I can find the iso
[15:02] <Havenstance> I don't have AD that I know of, but it's Windows 10 I can see the shares but I can't read them...
[15:05] <Havenstance> and tbh im sure 10 is only being so tempermental because it heard me say I was gonna replace it with Ubuntu Studio lol
[15:05] <Havenstance> but im gonna wait for 20.04 as I now see that's coming in April :)
[15:10] <jrwren> Havenstance: unix file permissions still apply, so what is the ownership and permissions for /media/share1 and /media/share2 ?
[15:11] <jrwren> samba shares with windows just fine, it has for 20+yrs now, and crazily, I've been using it for longer than that.
[15:12] <cmaloney> Yeah, $lastjob had Samba for the longest time
[15:12] <cmaloney> when they moved to AD is when things started falling apart
[15:13] <cmaloney> My evidence is anecdotal though
[15:15] <jrwren> how long ago was that?
[15:16] <cmaloney> 2015-2016ish?
[15:17] <cmaloney> Before Windows 10, for sure
[15:17] <Havenstance> jrwren, I've used it in the past with absolutely zero issues
[15:17] <Havenstance> just seems with Windows 10 things are far more quirky than they ever used to be with xp or even 98se lol
[15:17] <cmaloney> Might have been 2017
[15:18] <cmaloney> XP to Windows 10 is quite a long jump. ;)
[15:18] <cmaloney> I'm sure there are still places though that are planning their Windows 7 migrations. ;)
[15:18] <Havenstance> well I hated 7, and 8 and 8.1 were uh to put it mildly not friendly
[15:18] <Havenstance> dude my work still has XP boxes
[15:18] <Havenstance> and I work for a mortgage company
[15:19] <cmaloney> This does not surprise me
[15:19] <Havenstance> granted those boxes do not do anything except handle file automation and their blocked from internet
[15:19] <Havenstance> but someone internal who knows what their doing could cause some serious issues lol
[15:19] <Havenstance> hang on, forgot this is linux I don't have to open anything special to get that info
[15:20] <jrwren> i'm definitely using it with a win10 client.
[15:20] <jrwren> works fine.
[15:21] <cmaloney> jrwren: Are you using AD at all?
[15:21] <jrwren> no.
[15:21] <Havenstance> okay so I am seeing something strange in this terminal man
[15:21] <Havenstance> havenstance@dockerpriv:~$ ls -l /media/files
[15:21] <Havenstance> total 0
[15:22] <jrwren> I think the thing that you are missing is `encrypt passwords = true` in your smb.conf, but that may be default these days.
[15:22] <jrwren> yeah, it is default true on my samba.
[15:22] <Havenstance> see yesterday it was stuck as root/root
[15:23] <Havenstance> so at least I see a change means im getting somewhere lol
[15:23] <jrwren> isn't is /media/share1 and /media/share2?
[15:24] <jrwren> what does ls -al /media/share1 /media/share2 say?
[15:24] <Havenstance> ls -al /media/share1
[15:24] <Havenstance> sec
[15:24] <Havenstance> havenstance@dockerpriv:~$ ls -al /media/share1
[15:24] <Havenstance> ls: cannot access '/media/share1': No such file or directory
[15:25] <Havenstance> I'll pull that section that defines shares from SMB.conf
[15:27] <jrwren> did you set the password with smbpasswd?
[15:28] <Havenstance> those are spoofed share names man
[15:28] <jrwren> oh, so it wasn't actually your smb.conf?
[15:28] <Havenstance> forgot I changed those, the originals are actually /media/plex and /media/files
[15:29] <Havenstance> nah I spoofed just the ending, figured if when you said share1 share2 I'd know to substitute those directories in the commands based on what you said
[15:29] <Havenstance> hang on I'll give you the actual config, and yes I did set password with smbpass, even set up the .conf to allow for passwordless access, I can see those directories when I run sudo mount -a and come to them from windows
[15:30] <Havenstance> just trying to put anything in it says you need permission
[15:30] <Havenstance> despite me saying chown 1000:1000 /both/sharenames
[15:30] <jrwren> what user is 1000?
[15:30] <Havenstance> havenstance
[15:30] <Havenstance> group is haventsance on 1000 too
[15:31] <jrwren> but you have forceuser=openmyfiles?
[15:31] <jrwren> I'd remove the forceuser,forcegroup from the smb.conf
[15:31] <jrwren> i'd also remove the valid users.
[15:31] <Havenstance> putting it in was an attempt to resolve too lol I'll remove that if it's not needed, the openmyfiles was another account i created and did a chown too as well
[15:32] <Havenstance> but it didn't work either
[15:32] <Havenstance> making the edits now
[15:33] <Havenstance> im trying to get these so that docker can use them cuz I wanna put a bunch of containers on this thing for plex & related stuff
[15:34] <jrwren> you are going to run docker with storage over SMB?
[15:34] <Havenstance> so to be clear before I save this man, I'm removing forceuser, forcegroup, and validusers?
[15:34] <Havenstance> no
[15:34] <Havenstance> smb is to share that stuff to my windows machine
[15:34] <Havenstance> docker is going on this machine when I get the shares working
[15:34] <jrwren> k
[15:34] <jrwren> yes, remove those, they aren't needed
[15:35] <Havenstance> all the smb is for so I can drop new files in when the wife makes me buy her stuff lol
[15:35] <jrwren> have you tried connecting with smbclient to localhsot?
[15:36] <Havenstance> oooo
[15:36] <Havenstance> something happened it let me write a file to it that time
[15:36] <Havenstance> gonna check terminal and see if it shows up
[15:37] <Havenstance> dude you just fixed it
[15:37] <jrwren> \m/
[15:38]  * Havenstance sends jrwren an e-beer
[15:38] <jrwren> thanks.
[15:38] <Havenstance> no thank you man
[15:38] <jrwren> now run a speed test, how fast can you copy a large file to it?
[15:38] <Havenstance> that was the most frustrating thing
[15:38] <jrwren> I want to be filled with envy at the speed.
[15:38] <Havenstance> it's gonna be slow af I haven't disabled the offloading on the xcp-ng vm adapters yet
[15:39] <jrwren> oh, its a VM? then I will feel no envy. :)
[15:43] <Havenstance> nvm
[15:43] <Havenstance> it is in fact transferring at gigabit
[15:43] <Havenstance> and even more
[15:43] <jrwren> noice!
[15:43] <Havenstance> I don't have to enter a password to view my files
[15:44] <Havenstance> ITS A MIRACLE, not only did you help me get this going but you stopped the wife nagging me about the nag box lol
[15:44] <jrwren> well, i do love me some samba.
[16:01] <Havenstance> now that I have a working config file it'll make it so much easier to setup in the future should I need to
[17:12] <Havenstance> ok so now I mapped the shares to my windows pc, and windows is saying it has just shy of a tb
[17:13] <Havenstance> that movies drive is a 4tb raid 0 and the storage is 1.5tb
[17:13] <Havenstance> NAME    MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINT
[17:13] <Havenstance> sr0      11:0    1 1024M  0 rom
[17:13] <Havenstance> xvda    202:0    0 1000G  0 disk
[17:13] <Havenstance> └─xvda1 202:1    0 1000G  0 part  /
[17:13] <Havenstance> xvdb    202:16   0    2T  0 disk
[17:13] <Havenstance> └─md0     9:0    0  3.9T  0 raid0 /media/plex
[17:13] <Havenstance> xvdc    202:32   0    2T  0 disk
[17:13] <Havenstance> └─md0     9:0    0  3.9T  0 raid0 /media/plex
[17:13] <Havenstance> xvde    202:64   0  1.5T  0 disk  /media/files
[17:22] <Havenstance> whatever the hell I did just fixed it lol
[17:58] <jrwren> oh man. i love this. http://librarybox.us/
[20:10] <_stink_> nice!


[05:50] <flocculant> and here was me thinking searches matched real life ;)
[08:56] <flocculant> ochosi: well bug 1740578 refuses to let me add xfce 14131 - but linked lp to the bp for you
[12:43] <ochosi> thanks flocculant
[14:16] <flocculant> ochosi: np


[22:11] <TheMuso> Woohoo! The first time the mailing list moderatino queue has content that is *NOT* spam.


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[15:36] <nixternal> question, who removed my login stuff from the Fridge?
[15:41] <tyche> nixternal: I don't know a LOT about it, but you might want to talk to Rinchen.  I do know that fridge login is now done through Launchpad OpenID
[15:42] <nixternal> orly
[15:42] <nixternal> that could be it then
[15:42] <nixternal> ahhh, thanks :)
[15:45] <tyche> NP.  Hope it helped
[15:46] <nixternal> that it did...all this does is renew the fact that I hate OpenID
[15:46] <nixternal> thanks again for the heads up there..I was trying to log in the old school way
[18:05] <Tumie> All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound???
[18:11] <Tumie> UWN-NL, published
[18:13] <tyche> Congratulations, Tumie.  That's the second one out.
[18:13] <Tumie> :o,, third!!
[18:13] <Tumie> 115, 116, 117
[18:13] <tyche> OH!  You're right.   Rho sritched mg kegtops awound???" I thought you were drunk.  Hee hee.  Kegtops, indeed.  LOL
[18:15] <Tumie> i'm 15,, i'm never drunk!
[18:16] <Tumie> (i don't drink alcohol)
[18:16] <Tumie> i'm not one of that kids, that are drunking their brains away :)
[18:17] <tyche> Good grief!  You're heading up the NL translations at 15?  More power to you.  That's REALLY great.
[19:32] <Tumie> tyche: thanks,, :)
[19:32] <Tumie> just a hobby
[19:32] <Tumie> (i've got a game - stearing wheel.. perfect for flightgear and the google earth flight simulator
[21:11] <Tumie> omg.. it's dead here..