[02:41] <lilstevie> twb, still interested in what sbkdetectv2 does
[02:41] <lilstevie> ?
[02:46] <stlsaint> Im trying to customize the ARM release for backtrack. is that possible on a laptop system? would really prefer to rebuild
[02:48] <twb> lilstevie: sure
[02:48] <twb> lilstevie: although I really want u-boot.bin
[02:49] <lilstevie> heh , sorry about the delay with that btw, it is crunch time at uni, last week and a half before exams, many many assignments to hand in, havent had time to decrypt and dump
[02:50] <lilstevie> but basically there is an encrypted blob compiled in, that blob is the usb command "queryrcmvers"
[02:50] <lilstevie> it gets sent via usb bulk transfer to the device
[02:50] <lilstevie> if the command decrypts correctly it replies in plain text
[02:51] <lilstevie> if not, it hangs up the device
[02:51] <Lopi> stlsaint, yes it is possible
[02:51] <lilstevie> the blob itself is encrypted with the new B7+ SBK
[02:51] <lilstevie> ohai Lopi
[02:51] <Lopi> stlsaint, simply remove/install whatever packages you want
[02:51] <Lopi> stlsaint, switch to the DE/WM or your choice, etc.
[02:52] <lilstevie> fancy seeing you here :p
[02:52] <Lopi> ohai lilstevie
[02:52] <Lopi> big surprise right? ;p
[02:52] <stlsaint> Lopi: well im not sure how
[02:52] <lilstevie> yeah seeing as you haven't really even been on irc lately
[02:52] <stlsaint> Lopi: i see that mounting/chroot is not the same as with regular iso
[02:52] <stlsaint> as wiht a .img file
[02:53] <lilstevie> twb, thing is though, the source for sbkdetect will probably not be released
[02:54] <Lopi> stlsaint, for example, you could boot the img in qemu and install/remove packages, etc.
[02:55] <Lopi> stlsaint, your changes will be saved and the img will still be intact
[02:55] <Lopi> stlsaint, additionally, you can mount the image and edit config files if it's small changes
[02:55] <stlsaint> Lopi: ah ok forgot all about qemu, how would a mount on the .img work? i tried and got nothing but errors.
[02:56] <Lopi> stlsaint, I haven't done it personally, but typically like this: sudo mount -o loop file.img /media/BT5
[02:57] <Lopi> stlsaint, depends on what distro you use, you don't have to use /media
[02:57] <stlsaint> Lopi: right that is what i thought and tried but it does not work that way
[02:57] <Lopi> stlsaint, what's the error?
[02:58] <Lopi> stlsaint, I'm going to have to do this eventually as I'm porting Ubuntu and BT5 to the iPad ;p
[02:58] <Lopi> stlsaint, either way qemu is a nice work around
[02:58] <stlsaint> Lopi: sorry i mistaken your words, the mount works fine and can edit configs, im still thinking the chroot method but you clarified that with qemu
[02:59] <stlsaint> Lopi: btw there is already a BT5 image for the motorola xoom
[02:59] <Lopi> stlsaint, native or chroot jail?
[02:59] <stlsaint> Lopi: but you are unable to install mysql/postgresql for some reason that i cannot figure out
[03:00] <Lopi> stlsaint, most likely chroot jail on top of android unless lilstevie or LIV2 did it ;p
[03:01] <Lopi> stlsaint, yeah it's a chroot jail
[03:01] <stlsaint> Lopi: sorry, yes chroot method
[03:01] <Lopi> stlsaint, you'll need to make modifications by booting it with qemu first
[03:01] <stlsaint> Lopi: oh ok
[03:02] <Lopi> stlsaint, never played with it on android, but I assume you don't have write access to the rootfs this way
[03:03] <stlsaint> Lopi: on tablet? tablet is rooted
[03:04] <Lopi> stlsaint, yeah
[03:04] <Lopi> stlsaint, I don't really know how it all works never looked into it
[03:05] <stlsaint> Lopi: on the tablet the arm img just chroots (for now)
[03:05] <stlsaint> the backtrack team has not shown or expressed any further plans for development on it
[03:06] <stlsaint> a guy who makes roms for the xoom went ahead and threw together a script to automate the process of unpacking the .gz and scripts ,etc
[03:06] <stlsaint> now im troubleshooting the mysql/postgresql issue to help with further development
[03:07] <stlsaint> just never dealt with ARM before so its all new to me as well
[03:07] <Lopi> it's really not much different
[03:09] <stlsaint> Lopi: so you say i will have to make some adjustments to boot the qemu image?
[03:12] <Lopi> stlsaint, nah you should be able to boot the img in qemu without modifications
[03:13] <stlsaint> oh ok
[03:21] <stlsaint> Lopi: hrm, errors given when trying to boot img
[03:21] <twb> -M is important
[03:21] <Lopi> stlsaint, what are the errors and what command are you using to boot the img?
[03:22] <stlsaint> Lopi: says booting from hard disk...failed: couldnt not read the boot disk...same for floppy of course...
[03:22] <stlsaint> then for cd-rom
[03:22] <twb> lilstevie: re exams -- no worries, BTDT
[03:22] <Lopi> stlsaint, pastebin or pastie for me
[03:22] <stlsaint> Lopi: 4999MB medium detected...Boot failed: Could not read from CDROM (code 0005)
[03:22] <Lopi> stlsaint, please include the command you used to boot
[03:23] <stlsaint> Lopi: aye one sec
[03:24] <twb> lilstevie: is "B7+" an asus thing?  Or: what is is?
[03:24] <twb> *what is it
[03:25] <Lopi> twb, he's in class right now
[03:25] <twb> Eh, I'll see his reply when he gets around to it, no hurry
[03:26] <twb> Lopi: you in the same class?
[03:26] <Lopi> twb, nope we just work on a lot of projects online together
[03:27] <Lopi> twb, mainly the Ubuntu port to the iPhone until he moved onto the Galaxy line and the transformer
[03:28] <twb> Huh, I thought iphones were locked down out the wazoo
[03:29] <Lopi> www.idroidproject.org
[03:29] <Lopi> www.projectix.org
[03:30] <lilstevie> just quickly, some B7 and everything above that have a new secure boot key
[03:30] <lilstevie> ok back in a bit
[03:31] <twb> But what is a B7?
[03:31] <twb> Is it an SKU, or a chipset like the Intel's P45, or what
[03:32] <stlsaint> Lopi: http://paste.debian.net/138170/
[03:34] <Lopi> stlsaint, do you have BT5 arm on a cd?
[03:35] <stlsaint> nope
[03:36] <MrCurious_> wonder if there is a /proc file to tell a temperature on pandaboard under 11.10
[03:36] <Lopi> stlsaint, heh okay
[03:37] <Lopi> stlsaint, give me a few and I'll show you how to boot it
[03:37] <Lopi> stlsaint, I'm a bit busy atm
[03:37] <stlsaint> kk
[03:37] <stlsaint> cool
[03:37] <stlsaint> Lopi: gotcha
[03:39] <lilstevie> twb, it is the first 2 digits of the serial number
[03:40] <lilstevie> but the SBK itself is a tegra thing
[03:40] <lilstevie> it is just ASUS changed the baked in key in some time during july
[03:40] <lilstevie> thus B7
[03:41] <lilstevie> B = 11 :p
[03:41] <lilstevie> as in 2011
[03:41] <twb> Ha
[03:41] <lilstevie> x is the month
[03:41] <lilstevie> in BxO
[03:41] <lilstevie> the rest still no idea about though
[03:42] <lilstevie> but other devices like the picasso have the SBK set too, but it is a different key on those devices, as it is set at bring up
[03:43] <lilstevie> but the picasso has a random SBK
[03:43] <lilstevie> well pseudo random
[03:59] <stlsaint> man this dang img is frustrating
[04:12] <stlsaint> Lopi: i must leave for a bit, if you wouldnt mind either posting here or in a pastebin for me on procedure in case i dont make it back i would appreciate it
[04:12] <Lopi> stlsaint, yeah sure
[04:12] <Lopi> stlsaint, just keep idling and I'll get to it eventually
[04:26] <lilstevie> heh
[04:26] <lilstevie> that will be the day
[04:53] <Lopi> stlsaint, http://pastie.org/private/nwoi9z3kzp6utcghpk1qdw
[04:54] <Lopi> stlsaint, refer to the Ubuntu wiki for more information
[05:17] <Lopi> lilstevie, you around?
[05:47] <lilstevie> Lopi: yeah I am back now
[06:11] <lilstevie> twb: btw, I now have 2 others who have successfully compiled u-boot
[06:11] <twb> lilstevie: 32G or 16G ?
[06:12] <lilstevie> actually that is a good question
[11:29] <dolla> so i was playing with qnx rtos on the beagleboard yesterday and i somehow accidently wrote to NAND flash
[11:29] <dolla> whenever i boot my beagleboard, i just get 40V
[11:30] <dolla> anyone know how to get out of this conundrum?
[11:30] <ogra_> there are instructions somewhere on the web
[11:31] <dolla> i followed them
[11:31] <dolla> using MLO file copy first to a blank SD card
[11:31] <dolla> i have a second board and that SD card boots on it fine, but not the one with 40V
[11:32] <ogra_> so you recovered your NAND following online instructions already ? well, probably ask in #beagle about the broken NAND recovery instructions then
[11:32] <dolla> ogra_: no it just doesnt do anything
[11:33] <ogra_> ubuntu specifically doesnt tuch NAND to avoid such support cases, if you trashed your NAND, recover it using an upstream method
[11:33] <dolla> yea.
[14:24] <fader_> Is there a trick to using the preinstalled ARM images?  I've tried the OMAP4 image (on a Panda board) and the Quick Start Board image and both of them fail in the same way for me
[14:25] <fader_> I get the initial user creation oem-config stuff, then it appears to install, and then X restarts and I get the oem-config wizard again
[14:25] <fader_> If I drop to a virtual terminal I can see that the hostname got set, the user account got created, etc.
[14:25] <fader_> But the fact that this is happening on two different images on two different pieces of hardware makes me wonder if there's a bug or if I'm missing something obvious
[14:26] <fader_> (Oops, forgot to mention both were 11.10 images)
[14:27] <rcn-ee_at_work> fader_, double check on the sd card if /var/lib/oem-config/run still exists, if it does remove it..
[14:27] <rcn-ee_at_work> (it's safe as long as you have the user account created)
[14:28] <fader_> rcn-ee_at_work: Cool, thanks... let me try that.  I assume if that works my next step should be to file a bug ;)
[14:28] <rcn-ee_at_work> yeah, with oem-config i think, it's been a while since i filed a bug for that package, basicly after you username/etc is created it should remove that file..
[14:31] <fader_> rcn-ee_at_work: Yep, that did the trick, so looks like that's the bug.  Thanks!
[14:52] <GrueMaster> fader_: There is already a bug filed.
[14:52] <GrueMaster> bug 856293
[14:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 856293 in ubiquity "oem-config not removed after install on preinstalled desktop images due to debconf.dat being locked " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856293
[14:56] <fader_> GrueMaster: Sweet, less typing for me then :)
[15:57] <janimo> ogra_, infinity just registered  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-p-live-installer
[16:04] <ogra_> janimo, wrong name
[16:04] <ogra_> must be ubuntu-arm-p
[16:24] <dabukalam> trying to get a network connection up and running on core, does anyone have any idea what packages are on there, and what aren't so we can see what's available to configure it?
[16:28] <GrueMaster> dabukalam: You should be able to establish a basic static ip based network connection, depending on the kernel used.
[16:29] <ogra_> dabukalam, the tarball includes just enough OS to run apt, nothign more, no configs or extra packages
[16:29] <GrueMaster> I can't remember if dhcp is also in the core, but the manifest should tell you what packages are installed.
[16:29] <ogra_> its designed as a base for building images on top of it
[16:29] <ogra_> or as an easy way to get a chroot
[16:29] <infinity> No dhcp client, no.
[16:29] <ogra_> dont expect it to be usable ootb beyond that
[16:29] <dabukalam> dhcp wasn't on there
[16:30] <ogra_> right, on purpose
[16:30] <dabukalam> couldn't figure out how to restart the networking service
[16:30] <dabukalam> so i just rebooted
[16:30] <dabukalam> and it's working now
[16:30] <dabukalam> so i can install whatever i want
[16:30] <ogra_> like there are no user accounts nor a root password
[17:10] <ogra_> janimo, also, can you fix the naming on the wiki too please ?
[17:52] <Gottox> win 16
[18:09] <Quintasan> lilstevie: ping
[19:05] <RoAkSoAx> /win/win 3
[19:07] <phh> fail
[19:31] <Quintasan> lilstevie: Just to let you know, I upgraded natty to oneiric on my Transformer successfully, now I want dual-boot + CMW + hardware accel :P
[19:42] <ZeZu> Is the current sgx driver working on oneiric?  I've probably messed up my image w/ crap left around but I'm not sure ... just know X isn't starting due to sgx issues ... can't seem to load pvr srv
[20:46] <lilstevie> Quintasan_: thost are 3 things that you cannot have all at the same time
[20:46] <lilstevie> for now anyway
[21:04] <FernandoMiguel> hi hi
[21:04] <FernandoMiguel> I'm considering hunting down a full blown ARM laptop
[21:05] <phh> (ac100)
[21:05] <FernandoMiguel> thanks
[21:05] <FernandoMiguel> bbl


[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[16:55] <designbybeck> My friend just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10: and he has the "Circle Slash" on his Settings Icons: Any Idea? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=39549
[16:56] <designbybeck> all other updates seemed to have gone smoothly
[16:58] <IdleOne> designbybeck: 12.10 is now supported in #ubuntu
[17:00] <designbybeck> no one seemed to have a response there on that topic...maybe it will fix itself
[17:00] <designbybeck> thanks IdleOne
[23:09] <IdleOne> How do I remove the hover scroll bars again?
[23:11] <FernandoMiguel> humm
[23:11] <FernandoMiguel> can't remember the package for it :(
[23:11] <FernandoMiguel> I actually got used to it
[23:11] <FernandoMiguel> most apps work fine
[23:12] <IdleOne> I just don't like them
[23:12] <IdleOne> they work fine except for the fact that I rather not have them
[23:16] <IdleOne> also, when I minimize terminal it disappears
[23:27] <trism> IdleOne:  gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[23:28] <trism> IdleOne: unless this is 12.04-
[23:37] <IdleOne> trism: thank you


[14:48] <tim_> hi
[14:48] <tim_> why my dpkg always locked
[14:48] <tim_> what can i do
[21:10] <randall> do you have synaptic or other package manager running?
[21:10]  * randall is a necromancer
[23:28] <adriano_> Someone have Ubuntu-MATE running under a desktop/laptop with a AMD E-350 CPU?
[23:58] <adriano_> Anyone?


[00:33] <effiejayx> hello all, I have a package that I uploaded but it only builds it for i386 in my ppa. How can I manage for it to build for all archs
[00:33] <effiejayx> _
[00:33] <StevenK> Is it Architecture: all?
[00:34] <effiejayx> mmm shall check
[00:34] <effiejayx> StevenK, yes
[00:35] <StevenK> effiejayx: Then it will only build on i386, but it will be installable on every arch.
[00:36] <effiejayx> but when I tried installing the new uploaded version i would get the old one.
[00:37] <effiejayx> I know for a fact the version is no issue since the old package is 1.6.9 and the new 1.9.7
[00:38] <StevenK> How long since it was built?
[00:39] <effiejayx> two hours
[00:40] <StevenK> And what does apt-cache policy <package> say?
[00:41] <wgrant> It only finished building 43 minutes ago
[00:42] <wgrant> Have you retried in the last half hour?
[09:03] <Mez> Does anyone have any idea where I might find a script that'll let me add a user based on their LP profile (so, sudo lp-adduser mez would set up a user "mez" with my ssh keys from LP, and my name filled out from there?
[09:13] <cjwatson> Mez: ssh-import-id does part of that
[09:13] <cjwatson> if that helps
[09:16] <Mez> cjwatson: I'm presuming that's the same project name on LP ?
[09:17] <cjwatson> I guess, haven't looked
[13:39] <czajkowski> 00PS-381a3b58ae5d63fab95e9cca4c90ce25
[13:51] <cjwatson> czajkowski: well, the source package is grub2, not grub-pc
[13:55] <czajkowski> cjwatson: nods
[13:55] <czajkowski> still seeing oops are bad


[00:00] <bluesabre> flocculant: good deal
[00:00] <flocculant> np
[00:00] <bluesabre> Will send you so much stuff to test
[00:00] <flocculant> heh
[00:00] <bluesabre> Heading to dinner now, bbl
[00:00] <flocculant> speak tomorrow at some point then :)
[00:00] <flocculant> have a good evening
[00:00] <knome> bon appetit bluesabre
[00:08] <flocculant> knome: snealy ...
[00:08] <flocculant> oh sigh, sneaky
[00:08] <knome> what? :)
[00:09] <flocculant> no ACTION for Core on the logs :p
[00:09] <knome> ugh
[00:09] <knome> action is on bluesabre
[00:09] <flocculant> :p
[00:10] <flocculant> is it ... ;)
[00:10] <flocculant> logs don't agree lol
[00:10] <knome> didn't he like it on the top?
[00:10] <knome> :P
[00:10] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[00:10] <flocculant> night then ...
[00:10] <flocculant> :D
[00:10] <knome> nighty ;)
[00:43] <jbicha> flexiondotorg: one issue that I believe Xubuntu was concerned about is that libatrildocument3 depends on libjs-mathjax
[00:44] <jbicha> also GNOME these days offers libgepub which is integrated into the gnome-documents app (well technically GNOME Books) but not into evince yet
[00:45] <jbicha> so that needs a bunch of work probably, but that's a pointer if anyone wants to work on epub support in atril/evince
[00:46] <jbicha> see LP: #241736, GNOME doesn't seem very interested in it
[02:09] <flexiondotorg> jbicha: Thanks for the info. Very useful.
[02:18] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r645 Disable window previews in Xfwm4's alt-tab dialog... (by Sean Davis)
[02:18] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r646 Do not show the label in the xfce4-power-manager panel plugi... (by Sean Davis)
[02:18] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r647 Add UNRELEASED changelog (by Sean Davis)
[02:18] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r648 * etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4... (by Sean Davis)
[05:14] <bluesabre> Unit193, flexiondotorg, jbicha ... just going through the packages a bit briefly, might be able to decouple some of the depends and recommends to have some make requirements lighter https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WicgA_g4seBsMitXNVM5pmAIYf1cwSgqAzfK7yeqIHw/edit?usp=sharing
[05:14] <bluesabre> Will investigate more this weekend
[05:18] <jbicha> Ubuntu's file-roller has this diff from Debian (Depend on zip & unzip instead of p7zip-full which is in universe)
[05:19] <jbicha> this might be nice to cherry-pick: https://git.gnome.org/browse/file-roller/commit/?id=219ca07
[05:19] <jbicha> cherry-pick to engrampa I mean
[05:23] <jbicha> xubuntu-icon-theme doesn't provide engrampa.png yet
[05:35] <bluesabre> ochosi: ^
[13:44] <knome> bluesabre, when upgrading to artful, the terminal loses one configuration bit; the custom cursor. more exactly, the custom color is kept but the option to use the custom color is disabled...
[13:48] <bluesabre> knome: might be something related to the gtk3 terminal
[13:49] <knome> yeah, why not, but it's fixable by simply going to the settings and enabling this
[13:49] <knome> something to consider for 18.04 to make sure we're migrating smoothly :)
[13:51] <mun24> 	how to change wallpaper using remote shell?
[13:51] <bluesabre> knome, cool, want to file a bug report for that (to LP)
[13:53] <bluesabre> mun24: #xubuntu is the support channel (... and I do not know the answer)
[13:55] <knome> bluesabre, i'll do it today
[14:49] <bluesabre> Unit193: debdiff for engrampa packaging, want to build and test? (works for me) http://paste.ubuntu.com/25988577/
[15:49] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre Initial upstream discussions about collaborating with Xubuntu and Ubuntu Unity have been positive.
[15:50] <flexiondotorg> We should target upstream first for any required patches.
[15:51] <flexiondotorg> We are discussing creating a team for developers from other DEs using MATE applications on the MATE GitHub to streamline collaboration. Sound agreeable?
[16:02] <Unit193> bluesabre: Part of the deal with GNOME was that they needed stuff only from main, but we can use universe just fine.
[16:03] <Unit193> So the only "regression" that's a feature lost in xfpm might be if the tray icon is gone, and I thought it was.
[16:04] <bluesabre> flexiondotorg: sounds good to me
[16:05] <bluesabre> Unit193: I figured that some parity between ubuntu and flavors would be a good thing
[16:05] <bluesabre> Unit193: re xfpm, I think that's being looked into currently, I'd expect a new release sometime shortly (ochosi, thoughts?)
[16:06] <Unit193> Mmm, depends.  Ubuntu loses features just because they're in universe, we simply don't have that limitation.
[16:06] <bluesabre> Though, I'm not opposed to shipping p7zip-full, I install it anyway to support 7z and other archive formats
[16:07] <bluesabre> Definitely good for a broader discussion between flavors and definitely the MATE team :)
[16:07] <Unit193> Keep in mind I looked at xfpm a while ago then bailed, so I don't really know the current git state at all. :P
[16:10] <Unit193> Also lots of pings about Core.  1. I'm still of the mindset that after 4+ years, we shouldn't be renaming it as it's already known as 'Xubuntu Core'.  2. I'm not entirely sure, if the patches get in, what else there is that I've stopped bothering about.  I still keep an eye on the seed, but we don't make a lot of seed changes anyway.
[16:11] <bluesabre> Unit193: could you take another look and let us know what issues are blocking xfpm for you?
[16:12] <bluesabre> Especially since we've been avoiding it for ~2 years :)
[16:15] <bluesabre> Regarding Core, still seems like a better name to me, and that's not a good reason to block it
[16:22] <Unit193> I'd rather not, but I suppose I should.
[16:23] <bluesabre> Thanks Unit193... I'll try to make sure bionic is not a headache for you :)
[16:24] <Unit193> Heh, thanks.  But some things are unavoidable.
[16:27] <Unit193> bluesabre: Also thanks for picking up core, and moving to mate components, and everything else I'm missing.
[16:27] <bluesabre> Unit193: figured we should start the LTS strong so there's time to fix bugs :)
[16:28] <bluesabre> and flocculant has been pushing us to get things done early too
[16:28] <bluesabre> QA people ;)
[16:36] <Unit193> I've nearly got my shiny package done so I can test re-installs again.
[18:33] <knome> bluesabre, hmm, apparently we also lost bold text color
[18:35] <Unit193> Works for me.
[18:47] <knome> hmm, and selection
[20:44] <ochosi> Unit193: the tray icon is not gone in 1.6
[20:44] <ochosi> it's still there and fully functional
[20:44] <Unit193> ...Did it go away and come back at some point?
[20:45] <ochosi> no
[20:45] <ochosi> it was always there
[20:45] <ochosi> but in the experimental PPA i get an error
[20:45] <ochosi>  xfdesktop4 : Depends: libgarcon-gtk3-1-0 (>= 0.6.0) but it is not going to be installed
[20:46] <ochosi> Unit193: you can enable it from the settings dialog's first tab, as always
[20:46] <Unit193> ...Ok, so I remember it going away then coming back..Strange.
[20:52] <Unit193> ochosi: Also, that really shouldn't be a problem..
[21:43] <ochosi> Unit193: now, thinking back, i think there was a release where we dropped it or considered dropping it but the fact that lxde/lubuntu was using it at the time was a deciding factor not to do so. but anyway, in 1.6 it's still there
[21:43] <ochosi> what to do about that packaging problem of garcon and xfdesktop though?
[22:05] <Unit193> ochosi: Right, the lxde panel plugin was added, then the whole ordeal was reverted afaik.  And, as I said it *should* be fine, considering it was all built against everything.  I'm presuming you're on Artful.


 Stupid oppressed females.
[00:04] <ZachK_> serverduck: Dont worry about it
[00:04] <bodhi_zazen> Oh IDK serverduck =)
[00:05] <pedro3005> I hope that was a troll
[00:05] <bodhi_zazen> anything come to mind ?
[00:05] <ZachK_> bodhi_zazen: Can I talk to you
[00:05] <compiledkernel> pedro3005: as do I.
[00:05] <serverduck> pedro3005,  as I told you I'm not a noob when it comes to computers I programmed on windows a lot
[00:05] <Vantrax> lol
[00:05] <serverduck> pedro3005, i have no file .gtodo
[00:05] <Phrea> why did nobody take any action?
[00:05] <serverduck> pedro3005, i know a little things about terminal to:P
[00:05] <pedro3005> serverduck, or any file that looks like it could be related to gtodo?
[00:06] <pedro3005> let me install this and see
[00:06] <serverduck> pedro3005,  none...
[00:07] <serverduck> pedro3005,  i see my good old nexuiz there and other files but no .gtodo or anything related
[00:07] <serverduck> pedro3005,  i see my wicd there too...:)
[00:08] <serverduck> pedro3005,  I'm not an expert at linux but i know how to keep a computer in my hand..hehehehe:)
[00:08] <pedro3005> serverduck, hm... well.. maybe "sudo apt-get install gtodo" then "sudo apt-get purge gtodo"
[00:08] <pedro3005> really ugly
[00:08] <pedro3005> but what else
[00:09] <serverduck> pedro3005,  i thought about that too...i will give it a try ...
[00:09] <compiledkernel> well that was an interesting interchange
[00:10] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[00:10] <compiledkernel> twice Ive run into that girl today , and now the second time, I never want to see her again.
[00:10] <bodhi_zazen> I hope you do not miss the queen much, but I think she got the help she needed =)
[00:11] <serverduck> pedro3005,  when apt-get install i get " a bunch of things then failed to parse default value "SANT" for schema...."
[00:11] <bodhi_zazen> I suspect we may not see her for a while
[00:11] <pedro3005> compiledkernel, I suspect it was only an angry person (possibly not a girl) wanting to curse other people
[00:11] <pedro3005> serverduck, that happened to me too
[00:11] <pedro3005> just go on
[00:11] <serverduck> pedro3005,  tried apt-get install and apt-get purge but that task entry is still there:(
[00:11] <pedro3005> serverduck, where?
[00:11] <compiledkernel> pedro3005: can only hope
[00:12] <pedro3005> compiledkernel, nobody can be that stupid for real!
[00:12] <serverduck> pedro3005,  well in the task bar i have date and time and also weather report...if i click date and time i get the callendar the location and also a task entry which as asdasd as tasks...
[00:13] <serverduck> pedro3005, when i installed it i created a test task called asdasd
[00:13] <pedro3005> serverduck, tried re-starting?
[00:14] <serverduck> pedro3005,  rerestarting what?:)
[00:14] <pedro3005> serverduck, GNOME
[00:14] <duanedesign> hello compiledkernel
[00:14] <ARC0112358> I need help changing volume ownership FROM root
[00:14] <serverduck> pedro3005,  i don't know how to restart gnome
[00:15] <pedro3005> serverduck, anything against re-starting the whole PC?
[00:15] <serverduck> pedro3005,  no...:)
[00:16] <serverduck> pedro3005,  does re restarting gone require a full computer restart?
[00:16] <pedro3005> serverduck, no
[00:16] <pedro3005> but restarting the pc is easier :P
[00:17] <serverduck> pedro3005,  i have this problem for like 5 days...rerestarted the pc endless times:)
[00:17] <pedro3005> :O
[00:18] <pedro3005> serverduck, try removing then adding the panel outlet?
[00:18] <serverduck> pedro3005,  tried that too..no luck:(
[00:18] <pedro3005> serverduck, tried installing GToDo, opening it, deleting asdasd, then purging it?
[00:19] <ARC0112358> I (noob) need help changing volume ownership FROM root
[00:19] <serverduck> pedro3005,  tried
[00:19] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, volume ownership?
[00:20] <ARC0112358> yeah - root owns my 'media drive' and I cannot do anything on it
[00:20] <serverduck> pedro3005,  maybe restarting the gnome could help
[00:20] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, chown?
[00:20] <pedro3005> serverduck, GNOME restarts every time the pc restarts
[00:21] <ARC0112358> pedro3005, I am such a noob that I dont know that
[00:21] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, don't worry
[00:21] <pedro3005> I don't know it too good either
[00:21] <ARC0112358> pedro3005, is that a sudo commnd?
[00:21] <serverduck> pedro3005,  ohh well this isn't gonna work since i ;ve restarted it many times and still the same
[00:23] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, as root, run "sudo chown -R <your_user_name> /path/to/drive"
[00:23] <pedro3005> serverduck, darn
[00:23] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, ops
[00:23] <ARC0112358> so to be root I run sudo nautilus?
[00:23] <pedro3005> sorry
[00:23] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: yes
[00:23] <ARC0112358> ok
[00:24] <ARC0112358> here goes
[00:24] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, no, first run "sudo su"
[00:24] <pedro3005> duanedesign, ?
[00:24] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: its better to do everything with sudo than change the ownership of  /media
[00:24] <pedro3005> duanedesign, oh
[00:25] <ARC0112358> please clarify
[00:25] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: one sec ill get a link that explains Ubuntu permissions/root well
[00:25] <ARC0112358> u guys rock
[00:25] <serverduck> pedro3005,  :(
[00:25] <pedro3005> serverduck, hm.. well
[00:26] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: By default, the root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as root directly or use the su command to become the root user. However, since the root account physically exists it is still possible to run programs with root-level privileges. This is where sudo comes in
[00:27] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:27] <ARC0112358> duanedesign, ok
[00:27] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: and actually to open a nautilus window its gksudo nautilus :)
[00:27] <ARC0112358> is that the way to go?  nautilus?
[00:28] <pedro3005> serverduck, you can try to reach the author at http://blog.sarine.nl/
[00:28] <ARC0112358> this is the part where you tell me to read that post right?  :)
[00:28] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: if it opens a window use gksudo. If its a text only command like sudo mv this/file to/here
[00:28] <duanedesign> use sudo
[00:29] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, just run nautilus as root (with gksudo) and navigate there and use it
[00:29] <serverduck> pedro3005,  :(
[00:30] <serverduck> pedro3005,  found no contact info there
[00:30] <pedro3005> serverduck, leave a comment
[00:30] <serverduck> pedro3005,  yeah i will thank you so much
[00:31] <ARC0112358> OK - sorry.  So - execute gksudo nautilus and then the above command 'sudo chown -R <my user name> /path
[00:31] <ARC0112358> ?
[00:32] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, no
[00:32] <pedro3005> that little command you will forget
[00:32] <ARC0112358> glad I asked...
[00:32] <pedro3005> my fault
[00:32] <ARC0112358> :)
[00:32] <pedro3005> sorry
[00:32]  * pedro3005 is stupid
[00:32] <pedro3005> :(
[00:32] <ARC0112358> please clarify
[00:34] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, heh
[00:34] <ARC0112358> yeah
[00:34] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, You shouldn't do what I told you to
[00:34] <ARC0112358> ok
[00:34] <serverduck> pedro3005,  listen to this..
[00:34] <serverduck> pedro3005, I am not working on gtodo 0.16 anymore.
[00:34] <serverduck> I started on a gtodo2, but lack of time put that on a hold too.
[00:35] <pedro3005> he's not working on it, but he should know how to do what you want
[00:36] <serverduck> pedro3005,  i leaved him a comment hope he will reply thanks so much pedro
[00:36] <pedro3005> serverduck, :)
[00:38] <ARC0112358> duanedesign, you still there?  if you or pedro could clarify this task I'd appreciate it.
[00:39] <duanedesign> yes
[00:39] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: what are you trying to do?
[00:39] <ARC0112358> I have a media drive that I somehow gave root the ownership of, and I can't write to it anymore - its read only
[00:40] <ARC0112358> I want to be able to write files to it as my user
[00:40] <pedro3005> ARC0112358, just write to it as root
[00:41] <ARC0112358> Applications aren't installed as root
[00:41] <ARC0112358> I log in as user too, not root
[00:42] <pedro3005> duanedesign, maybe he could create a group of users who can write to the file, then add root/self to it, chown it etc?
[00:42] <pedro3005> dunno
[00:43] <ARC0112358> apps and suser need to write to it...  dpecifically mediatomb
[00:43] <duanedesign> ok. how did you add the drive?
[00:44] <ARC0112358> It was originally manu-mounted and then I installed an app that auto-mounts it at startup
[00:44] <ARC0112358> kde partition manger maybe?
[00:44] <pedro3005> you use kde?
[00:45] <ARC0112358> Idon't use anything but GUIs on the front end of anything that sounds like what I need
[00:45] <Phrea> wb
[00:45] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: is the drive FAT or ext4?
[00:45] <ARC0112358> I think it was ntfs
[00:45] <duanedesign> ok
[00:46] <ARC0112358> is that the issue?
[00:46] <ZachK_> Phrea: Wb who?
[00:46] <Phrea> you
[00:46] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: you might need to edit the entry in fstab
[00:46] <ARC0112358> please clarify - ima total noob
[00:47] <ZachK_> Phrea: Ah....well thanks....
[00:47] <ARC0112358> <---dumb and dangerous
[00:47] <Phrea> yw
[00:48] <ZachK_> Well team I'm outa here to look over the wiki fg page and such
[00:48] <Phrea> Nighty night !
[00:48] <duanedesign> open your fstab file with. gksudo editor /etc/fstab
[00:48] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ^^
[00:48] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: i am not sure what the editor is in KDE
[00:49] <Phrea> [Rename - Your File]
[00:49] <Phrea> sorry, wrong chan
[00:49] <ARC0112358> ok Im in
[00:49] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok now go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:50] <ARC0112358> ok
[00:50] <ARC0112358> in
[00:50] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: copy and paste the contents of your fstab file into the window at paste.ubuntu
[00:50] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: hit the paste button. The webpage that comes up will hae an address like paste.ubuntu.com/hfinsso
[00:51] <ARC0112358> http://paste.ubuntu.com/395893/
[00:51] <duanedesign> aha
[00:51] <duanedesign> :)
[00:51] <ARC0112358> ?
[00:51] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: pastebin is a neat toll to share large amounts of text on IRC
[00:51] <ARC0112358> Yeah - very cool
[00:52] <ARC0112358> you see it?
[00:55] <ARC0112358> duanedesign, am I still reaching you?
[00:57] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: yes
[00:57] <ARC0112358> sorry
[00:57] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: no problem trying to get you the correct line there
[00:57] <ARC0112358> many thanks
[01:02] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395896/
[01:02] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: the last line is the only one thats changed
[01:02] <ARC0112358> ok...standby...
[01:03] <ARC0112358> what do I do?
[01:03] <ARC0112358> dl that text?
[01:04] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: you can copy and paste out of that pastebin
[01:05] <duanedesign> ARC0112358:    ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[01:05] <ARC0112358> paste to...? fstab?
[01:05] <duanedesign> that is the important part
[01:05] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: yep
[01:05] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: that part above it goes after '/media/sda5'
[01:05] <ARC0112358> just the last line?
[01:06] <duanedesign> replaces  nls=iso
[01:06] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: yep
[01:07] <ARC0112358> I cant paste in fstab...ugh I suck.
[01:07] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: hold on
[01:08] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: yeah those text editors are kindda odd
[01:08] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: right-click and select paste?
[01:08] <ARC0112358> highlight last line, right click and paste?
[01:09] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: you just want to make your last line look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/395896/
[01:10] <duanedesign> the last line should be:
[01:10] <duanedesign> /dev/sda5                                  /media/sda5    ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[01:10] <ARC0112358> ok
[01:10] <ARC0112358> I am just having no luck editing this file - standbay
[01:10] <thecliff> Hi all.
[01:11] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: you might have better luck in a different text editor
[01:11] <ARC0112358> gedit?
[01:12] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: if you want to close that file with Ctrl - X
[01:12] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: do you have gedit?
[01:12] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: i thinkk in KDE its Kedit?
[01:13] <duanedesign> ARC0112358:  gksudo kedit /etc/fstab
[01:13] <ARC0112358> sorry duane - I am using ubuntu 9.10
[01:13] <ARC0112358> gnome?
[01:13] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ohh ok
[01:13] <duanedesign> thats easier (for me) :)
[01:13] <ARC0112358> my bad
[01:14] <duanedesign> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:14] <duanedesign> will open it in gedit. ARC0112358 it has more sane keyboard shortcuts
[01:15] <ARC0112358> ok changed it and saved it
[01:15] <ARC0112358> now what?
[01:15] <duanedesign> ok
[01:16] <duanedesign> sudo mount -a
[01:16] <duanedesign> run that command in the Terminal
[01:16] <duanedesign> Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[01:16] <ARC0112358> [mntent]: line 15 in /etc/fstab is bad
[01:17] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok. could you pastebin the fstab again. The new one
[01:17] <duanedesign> paste.ubuntu.com
[01:18] <ARC0112358> http://paste.ubuntu.com/395902/
[01:19] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok. the other text editor put those dollar signs in there. delete that $ at the end
[01:19] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: save it again. then run 'sudo mount -a' again
[01:20] <ARC0112358> ok did that saved and ran above command
[01:21] <duanedesign> no error :)
[01:21] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: see if you can copy to the device
[01:21] <ARC0112358> no error but still no write permissions
[01:21] <ARC0112358> CANT CREATE FOLDERS
[01:21] <ARC0112358> whoops
[01:21] <ARC0112358> sorry
[01:22] <duanedesign> still cant write to it?
[01:22] <ARC0112358> cant create folders
[01:23] <ARC0112358> unmount remount?
[01:24] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok lets try
[01:24] <Semitones> I don't know if this has already been said, but make sure you're mounting it read/write
[01:24] <ARC0112358> Error unmounting: umount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[01:24] <ARC0112358> umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda5 from /media/sda5
[01:24] <Semitones> (very late to the conversation)
[01:26] <ARC0112358> ill check that too...
[01:27] <duanedesign> Semitones: it has defaults option set
[01:28] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/sda5
[01:28] <ARC0112358> ok
[01:29] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: run that command replacing USERNAME with your username
[01:29] <ARC0112358> its chuggin
[01:29] <ARC0112358> done
[01:30] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok now try it
[01:30] <ARC0112358> that mount -a command?
[01:30] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: sorry, no that wont be necessart this time
[01:31] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: just try and create a folder
[01:31] <ARC0112358> still no create folder
[01:31] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok
[01:31] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: run: ls -la /media/sda5
[01:32] <ARC0112358> http://paste.ubuntu.com/395905/
[01:35] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok run:  sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[01:35] <ARC0112358> ok
[01:35] <duanedesign> gksudo ntfs-config
[01:36] <ARC0112358> I selected 'enable write support for internal devise'
[01:37] <ARC0112358> still no creat folder
[01:37] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: and external?
[01:37] <ARC0112358> yeah
[01:37] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok
[01:38] <ARC0112358> root is mounting it and I am a user - does that matter?
[01:38] <ARC0112358> is root mounting it screwing it uo?
[01:38] <ARC0112358> up?
[01:38] <ARC0112358> I can't emember what I did to make it suto mount
[01:38] <ARC0112358> auto
[01:39] <ARC0112358> I thoguht I used Storage DEvice Mamanger
[01:42] <ARC0112358> I can use storage device manager to unmount and mount it - but write permissions havent chaged
[01:43] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: so your username is 'user'
[01:44] <ARC0112358> its jason
[01:44] <duanedesign> ok
[01:45] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: is this the command you ran earlier:   sudo chown -R jason:jason /media/mynewdrive
[01:45] <duanedesign> media/sda5
[01:45] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: is this the command you ran earlier:   sudo chown -R jason:jason /media/sda5
[01:45] <ARC0112358> yes but mynewdrive = sda5
[01:45] <duanedesign> :)
[01:45] <duanedesign> you caught that ;)
[01:46] <ARC0112358> should i go again?
[01:46] <duanedesign> after using the ntfs-config did you try the 'sudo mount -a'
[01:46] <ARC0112358> no
[01:47] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: try that to remount it
[01:47] <ARC0112358> ok
[01:47] <ARC0112358> no dice
[01:47] <ARC0112358> :(
[01:48] <ARC0112358> could it be ntfs screwing up?  should it be ext4?
[01:49] <ARC0112358> or fat?
[01:50] <ARC0112358> I wish I could remember what I did as nautilus...
[01:50] <Semitones> ARC0112358, what system are you using, and what are you trying to do? maybe I could give some advice
[01:51] <howlong> YO
[01:51] <howlong> YTO
[01:51] <howlong> YO
[01:51] <ARC0112358> ubuntu 9.10 - root owns internal media sata, user (jason) can't write to it
[01:51] <howlong> what is this
[01:51] <pedro3005> howlong, yo?
[01:51] <howlong> is this irc.gay.com
[01:51] <pedro3005> howlong, no
[01:51] <pedro3005> freenode
[01:51] <pedro3005> duanedesign, ^
[01:52] <howlong> god
[01:52] <howlong> this channel has gotten
[01:52] <Semitones> ARC0112358, oh, so you have another partition that you
[01:52] <howlong> like 100x more gay
[01:52] <Semitones> ARC0112358, that you're trying to access?
[01:52] <Semitones> howlong, please stop
[01:52] <howlong> do you people not know how to chat hard?
[01:52] <pedro3005> howlong, yeah cutie ;)
[01:52] <howlong> what is this?
[01:52] <ARC0112358> yeah - ubuntu is store don 250 gb volume, but media all stored on 500 gb volume
[01:52] <howlong> Semitones, i have been here longer than you so stfu
[01:52] <howlong> YO
[01:52] <howlong> sup paultag
[01:52] <ARC0112358> media volume owned by root, and I cant write to it
[01:53] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok what do you get from:    ls -la /media/
[01:53] <howlong> where the fuck is votebot
[01:53] <howlong> WHAT HAPPENED TO VOTEBOT
[01:53] <howlong> i loved votebot
[01:53] <ARC0112358> http://paste.ubuntu.com/395905/
[01:53] <Semitones> ARC0112358, Ubuntu is supposed to automatically detect those, and add them to the Places menu.  That was from *.in.comcast.net, and he was mentioning previous involvement with the UFBT.
[02:03] <duanedesign> Semitones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395914/
[02:03] <duanedesign> that is the fstab
[02:03] <ARC0112358> If I reinstalled ubuntu, would volume permissions reset?
[02:03] <Hellow> There's another ban in the ban list that I set due to a troll a few days back.
[02:04] <Hellow> Looks like montel too, he uses The Pirate Bay's VPN service, AFAIK.
[02:04] <duanedesign> Hellow: we had one earlier today too
[02:04] <Semitones> duanedesign, I don't know if this would work, but you could try saving a copy of that fstab as backup, and then just delete that line, and reboot
[02:04] <Semitones> see if the volume is automatically detected
[02:04] <ARC0112358> ok
[02:04] <pedro3005> nhandler, just an A-hole bothering us
[02:04] <pedro3005> nhandler, scroll back a bit
[02:05] <duanedesign> FisherQueen was the nick
[02:05] <Semitones> ARC0112358, do you know how to save a backup copy?
[02:06] <nhandler> pedro3005: He was taken care of ;)
[02:06] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: ok run. sudo cp /etc/fstab  /etc/fstab.bak
[02:06] <nhandler> Hellow: It was montel
[02:06] <Hellow> nhandler: Ah.
[02:06] <Semitones> you guys should get ubottu in here :)
[02:06] <Hellow> I figured it was.
[02:07] <Hellow> Can you confirm if the previous ban I set was montel too?
[02:07] <Hellow> I think he uses TBP's VPN service, but I don't know.
[02:07] <nhandler> Hellow: Don't even bother banning him at this point. Poke me or another staffer if he shows up
[02:07] <Hellow> Ok.
[02:07] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: after you run that confirm its backed up by running.   ls /etc/
[02:07] <Semitones> ban evading?
[02:08] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: you will see a fstab as well as fstab.bak
[02:08] <ARC0112358> i see it
[02:08] <nhandler> Semitones: That is one of my to-change items as well, replacing votebot with ubottu in here
[02:09] <ARC0112358> i gotta reboot?
[02:09] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: then you can open the fstab with the command from earlier.  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:09] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: already done :)
[02:09] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: yep
[02:09] <ARC0112358> I deleted that line
[02:09] <ARC0112358> ok...  see ya in  a few...
[02:09] <duanedesign> ARC0112358: kk
[02:09] <Semitones> good luck!
[02:13] <ARC0112358> it worked
[02:13] <Semitones> hooray!
[02:13] <duanedesign> thank you Semitones
[02:14] <Semitones> you're welcome :)
[02:14] <ARC0112358> Yeah!  I dont really get it - but it worked
[02:14] <Semitones> I'm glad it worked
[02:14] <ARC0112358> thanks
[02:14] <Semitones> no problem
[02:14] <ARC0112358> soooo much to learn
[02:15] <ARC0112358> thanks all - c ya with next fiasco...
[02:15] <Semitones> ubuntu can autodetect a bunch of things nowadays... so I figured if it was set up wrong in fstab, erasing it, and letting ubuntu autodetect it might work. I guess it did
[02:16] <ARC0112358> cool
[02:17] <ARC0112358> thanks pedro, duane and semitones - im out
[07:16] <ZachK_> Hello all
[16:59] <s4aluck> do somebody can help me to make my webcam pleomax pwc-3800 work on Karmic
[17:10] <ikt> heya s4aluck
[17:22] <s4aluck> ikt: Hi
[17:26] <ikt> s4aluck: sorry I was looking quickly through some posts and thought I saw an answer, but I then I saw your post :P
[17:27] <ikt> I would personally just get another one, since they're usually only like $10, but google the one you get to see if it's compatible with linux
[17:27] <ikt> I would also open a bug report about that webcam since it seems like it's a regression since you say it was working in ubuntu before a kernel upgrade
[17:27] <s4aluck> ikt: hahah I am everywhere
[17:28] <ikt> :)
[17:29] <s4aluck> ikt: this camera works perfect on 8.04
[17:30] <ikt> then I would definitely submit a bug report suggesting a regression
[17:31] <s4aluck> ikt: speak English please, will it help that
[17:32] <ikt> ah sorry
[17:32] <ikt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011078
[17:33] <ikt> and just say that your webcam worked in 8.04 but doesn't work now in 9.10
[17:35] <s4aluck> ...and 10.04 3 alpha too
[17:37] <s4aluck> I already started to understand that pwc cameras are not wellcomed at ubuntu
[17:51] <ikt> s4aluck: yeah, it sounds like the driver in the kernel isn't working anymore :(
[17:53] <ikt> s4aluck: some info here that might be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[17:53] <s4aluck> ikt: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/48jPzzUP
[17:54] <ikt> yeah I saw
[17:54] <s4aluck> ikt: it's me
[17:54] <ikt> http://linuxtv.org/hg/~jfrancois/gspca <- does not exist
[17:54] <ikt> so I don't know why he referenced it
[17:54] <ikt> only recently as well
[17:54] <s4aluck> that's the problem
[17:56] <s4aluck> ikt: they said something about git gspca respositories!?!?!
[17:57] <s4aluck> ikt:  do you have an idea what that means
[18:08] <ikt> s4aluck: yeah
[18:09] <ikt> he's talking about: http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/get-your-webcam-working-gspca
[18:10] <ikt> off to bed, hope you get it working :)
[20:47] <pedro3005> hi hobgoblin
[20:48] <hobgoblin> evening
[20:48] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, quit changing nicks :O I had no idea you were elfy
[20:48] <hobgoblin> lol
[20:49] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, do you like change nicks to investigate how people react to different personalities?
[20:49] <duanedesign> hello all
[20:50] <hobgoblin> no pedro3005
[20:50] <hobgoblin> I have nicks which I rotate so no-on eelse can steal them ::)
[20:50] <hobgoblin> hi duanedesign
[20:51] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, ... and why have them, 4-eyed? :P
[20:52] <hobgoblin> pedro3005: so I can change them to suit - elfy is mischievous, piskie is bored, forestpiskie is official and you'd better watch out for the hobgoblin
[20:53] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, I guess I should register my acquired nick name
[20:53] <hobgoblin> possibly not
[20:55] <pedro3005> ahhhh no
[20:56] <pedro3005> oh good
[20:57] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, why not?
[21:05] <ghostofmybrain_> what's the command for installing updates?
[21:06] <hobgoblin> sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:08] <ghostofmybrain_> oh yeah, i was way off. thanks
[21:17] <pedro3005> hello mathay
[21:18] <ghostofmybrain_> I'm trying to install the driver for my ethernet card but the only available driver is an exe. Am I just out of luck?
[21:19] <pedro3005> ghostofmybrain_, ethernet card? these generally work on ubuntu without the need of drivers
[21:20] <ghostofmybrain_> hmmm, even my router doesn't recognize the computer plugged into it, although it recognized the computer when it was plugged into onboard ethernet port
[21:21] <pedro3005> ghostofmybrain_, what is the card?
[21:21] <ghostofmybrain_> the light is on and everything, but I assumed that if the router didn't see the computer that I needed to install a driver or something. maybe not?
[21:21] <ghostofmybrain_> netgear GA311
[21:21] <pedro3005> ghostofmybrain_, yeah I don't think you need to install drivers
[21:21] <pedro3005> some other error going on
[21:30] <phillw> @ pedro3005 i think forestpiskie uses the other nicks to confuse people ;-)
[21:31] <hobgoblin> that would be the sort of thing hobgoblin might do
[21:31] <hobgoblin> forestpiskie lives on the forums
[21:32] <pedro3005> phillw, yeah
[21:32] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, in my head you're still not the forestpixie I know
[21:32] <pedro3005> :P
[21:33] <hobgoblin> not much I can do about your head - mine has it''s own problems :p
[21:35] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, like using two apostrophes when you should use none?
[21:35] <pedro3005> :)
[21:36] <hobgoblin> nope that is not my head but more about laziness ...
[21:37] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, there's no space before the ellipsis :P
[21:37] <hobgoblin> pedro3005: there is birdsong duirng an eclipse
[22:42] <drubin> Joeb454: ping
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> Joeb454: poke