[14:18]  * Dr_willis wonders why he needed 64 and 32bit installers for some windows apps the other day...
[14:19] <yandex237891> graingert: Most people (myself included) don't want to upgrade their OS every year or two, they just want upgraded applications
[14:19] <graingert> yandex237891: and that's not true either installers have to be changed for different versions of apps
[14:19] <graingert> yandex237891: well that's just not a secure way of doing buisness
[14:19] <Dr_willis> but this is getting OT..
[14:19] <graingert> yandex237891: just stick to the LTS
[14:19] <ericl_> LTS or a rolling release distro
[14:20] <graingert> rolling release meh
[14:20] <yandex237891> Rolling release is better, agreed.
[14:20] <graingert> I prefer having a clean start every 6mo
[14:20] <graingert> and I won't bother if someone doesn't force it on me
[14:20] <Dr_willis> clean install to get rid of the cruft ive been playing with.
[14:20] <myhero> when will nxt LTS come out ?
[14:20] <graingert> April
[14:20] <yandex237891> myhero: April this year
[14:20] <Dr_willis> 12.04 is lts.
[14:20] <yandex237891> myhero: Though it has the Unity interface by default, so be careful
[14:20] <Dr_willis> 2012 - 4th month.
[14:21] <myhero> this april....u mean the new beta version...which came out few days back
[14:21] <graingert> it's not a bother though just install gnome-panel and gnome-shell
[14:21] <myhero> kkk
[14:21] <graingert> and use one of those
[14:21] <Dr_willis> myhero,  its beta untill its released. :)
[14:21] <graingert> what about RC/
[14:21] <graingert> ?*
[14:22] <myhero> yea
[14:22] <myhero> what about oneiric...?
[14:22] <Dr_willis> what about it?
[14:22] <myhero> what will happen to it ?
[14:22] <myhero> will it b supported ?
[14:23] <myhero> like LTS
[14:23] <Dr_willis> !lts
[14:23] <Dr_willis> !11.10
[14:23] <Dr_willis> I forget the dates for non lts.
[14:23] <yandex237891> 5 years isn't very long for a server OS. Windows/Redhat support lasts far longer...
[14:24] <skurcey> I have a weird problem with my logitech USB mouse 5 buttons, i tried "xinput list" and it s listed twice. One button doesnt work
[14:24] <skurcey> what other command am i looking for?
[14:24] <Syria> Hi, I am running my machine under 11.10 and after upgrading Gnome to 3.4 I can't log in to it any more! can i role back the changes I made?
[14:24] <myhero> yea but then oneiric doesn't has any future...
[14:24] <kingkatari> i am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error
[14:24] <Dr_willis> myhero,  you may want to start trying 12.04 then . even tho its still in beta.
[14:24] <kingkatari>  checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes
[14:25] <kingkatari>  checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no
[14:25] <Syria> bazhang:  Hi
[14:25] <kingkatari> configure: error: Missing required libmemcached library
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !find libmemcached
[14:25] <myhero> many have complained a lot for 12.04
[14:25] <blotek> Dr_willis, ubuntu is acting like it's all time beta;p
[14:25] <myhero> true
[14:25] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  most likely you need libmemcached-dev
[14:26] <Dr_willis> myhero,  people complain about everything...
[14:26] <Syria> Ubuntu has something calles LTS ;)
[14:26] <sacarlson> yandex237891: how would you like to support and update 10 different versions of your software for FREE over 5 years when you already have a working version in just one of them
[14:26] <myhero> thats also true
[14:26] <Dr_willis> they complain even more when its 'free'
[14:26] <myhero> rght
[14:26] <yandex237891> sacarlson: I don't know, you should ask the Debian developers :P
[14:27] <myhero> they complain less for windows which is so expensive...
[14:27] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Do you have time for me please? You have helped me many times before and thx in advance.
[14:27] <myhero> n even least for macs which wants ur pants off just for a mac
[14:27] <Dr_willis> Syria,  about to take the wife to the dr.. so not a lot of time.
[14:27] <sacarlson> yandex237891: as a developer myself I just want to keep the latest one supported not work on the past
[14:28] <myhero> what happened dr ?
[14:28] <yandex237891> sacarlson: Normal software lets you upgrade though. Ubuntu doesn't
[14:28] <Dr_willis> myhero,  Flu from the grandkids. :)
[14:28] <Syria> Dr_willis:  I hope that everything will be okay with you and your wife. :) TTYL
[14:28] <yandex237891> Dr_willis: Surely as a doctor you can fix it yourself?
[14:28] <myhero> ohhh
[14:28] <blotek> yandex237891, it doesnt rly ?
[14:28] <Dr_willis> im staying away from her.. i dont want to catch it....
[14:28] <myhero> sad things......god blessings
[14:28] <blotek> im not ubuntu user but as far as i remember u can always upgrade
[14:29] <kingkatari> Thanks DR_Willis
[14:29] <yandex237891> blotek: I've had bad experiences with upgrading
[14:29] <kingkatari> that worked
[14:29] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so whats the actual issue?
[14:29] <sacarlson> yandex237891: the limits are normaly lib changes that you need to change code keep it compatible, then you need to fix bugs
[14:29] <myhero> y u wanna b away frm ur own wife ?
[14:29] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  what are you trying to compile?
[14:29] <myhero> thats weird...
[14:29] <blotek> yandex237891, i've had bad experiences with ubuntu always ;p then i tried other distros and they dont have that many issues actually not even 10% of issues of ubuntu ;)
[14:30] <Dr_willis> myhero,  she has the flu.. and is pukeing her guts out. :P
[14:30] <angs> I have a laptop and PC. the PC runs ubuntu and it doesnt have a monitor. I would like to use ubuntu remotely. I installed teamviewer but the teamviewer 50% does not work at the startup. Would you recommend me to use another program that wouldnt have problem to start in the startup of ubuntu?
[14:30] <Koompje> can anyone see why my script doesnt accept numbers higher than 9 ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/916085/
[14:30] <myhero> she is ur half part...b with her even if u catch it
[14:30] <Koompje> its very basic
[14:30] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Sometimes for no reason that I can notice.. on the network tray on the panel I see a message that says no networking devices! and after restarting and shutting down for several times it works and I can connect to wireless and lan networks again!
[14:30] <kingkatari> a server
[14:30] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so both wireless and wired networking drops every so often?
[14:31] <kingkatari> crap now i am getting another errer
[14:31] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  what app? is an older version in the repos?
[14:31] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Yeah both of them.
[14:31] <myhero> anyways god n good blessings...
[14:31] <kingkatari> checking for pg_config... no
[14:31] <kingkatari> no
[14:31] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
[14:31] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.10.1, ,'
[14:31] <yandex237891> Does anyone know how to raise issues in launchpad when they're being ignored? I reported a bug, just got told to report it upstream, but now have no response from either upstream or the Ubuntu developers.
[14:32] <Syria> Dr_willis:  It happened after upgrading gnome to 3.4, and i can't log in to gnome anymore I am working on unity now.
[14:32] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so its affecting  all the desktops and not just gnome 3.4?
[14:33] <Syria> Dr_willis:  I can't log in to Gnome at all, and the rest of environment like KDE and unity have a bad graphics now.
[14:33] <horse01> Hi
[14:34] <angs> I have a laptop and PC. the PC runs ubuntu and it doesnt have a monitor. I would like to use ubuntu remotely. I installed teamviewer but the teamviewer 50% does not work at the startup. Would you recommend me to use another program that wouldnt have problem to start in the startup of ubuntu?
[14:34] <horse01> How can I hide my piblic ip adress like ceveral person on irc?
[14:34] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> angs I have a vitual box.
[14:34] <yandex237891> angs: VNC
[14:34] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> *virtual.
[14:35] <Syria> angs:  I usually use VNC and SSH.
[14:35] <kingkatari> !find pg_config
[14:35] <llutz> horse01: read freenode-faq on http://freenode.net about cloaks and ask in #freenode
[14:35] <angs> is VNC like teamviewer?
[14:35] <myhero> yea 1 issue....just came to my mind....are BROADCOM network wifi cards not supported in ubuntu or what...??? i hve 2 lappys with both having broadcom network cards n having problems catching the signal n in connecting but work fine under windows.....n a 3rd lappy with intel network card which m currently on which works fine with ubuntu n windows both
[14:35] <angs> or teamviewer like VNC?:)
[14:36] <Syria> angs:  Use remote desktop viewr, Pre installed with ubuntu.
[14:36] <horse01> llutz: ok thanks
[14:36] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> You could yuse VNC or Oracle VM VirtualBox.
[14:36] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Neither one is fine.
[14:36] <angs> thanks a lot for the suggestions
[14:36] <Syria> Yeah both sucks even on a high speed LAN.
[14:37] <myhero> any1 know about this issue ?
[14:37] <myhero> any1 know about this issue ?
[14:37] <myhero> yea 1 issue....just came to my mind....are BROADCOM network wifi cards not supported in ubuntu or what...??? i hve 2 lappys with both having broadcom network cards n having problems catching the signal n in connecting but work fine under windows.....n a 3rd lappy with intel network card which m currently on which works fine with ubuntu n windows both
[14:37] <FloodBot1> myhero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:37] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so basically trying out gnome 3.4 really messed things up? :)
[14:37] <Syria> Ubuntu should developer something like RDP. :(
[14:37] <sacarlson> myhero: I think it's a lisence isue,  they make it hard to install the needed firmware and stuf
[14:37] <Syria> Dr_willis:  yes, Exactly. :(
[14:38] <Dr_willis> myhero,  totally depends on the exact chipset. some drivers for some wireless cards are a bit buggy sadly.
[14:38] <myhero> mayb but i googled n mostly saw that broadcom wifi cards hve issues on ubuntu....
[14:38] <kingkatari> ok this is driving me mad
[14:38] <Dr_willis> myhero,  as a test case you could try a 12.04 live cd. and see if the newer kernel/drivers work better.
[14:39] <sacarlson> myhero: yes because it's one of the few that isn't plug and play
[14:39] <z1lla> i like this chan
[14:39] <yandex237891> myhero: Wireless support can be a bit wank in Linux. It's because the manufacturers don't give out proper specs, so the drivers can be just binary blobs.
[14:39] <yandex237891> My own wireless card doesn't work in the 3.x series of kernels
[14:39] <rileyp> i installed 11.10 beside w7 and w7 booted after installing and now it wont
[14:39] <Dr_willis> I just ordered 2 wireless  usb's today off amazon.. found one that had many reviews saying it worked great in ubuntu.. heh.
[14:39] <rileyp> what might be upset?
[14:40] <Dr_willis> rileyp,  what does it do exactly instead of not booting?
[14:40] <Syria> I always make sure that hardware I want to buy are supported by ubuntu. :D
[14:40] <Dr_willis> Syria,  that can be hard to do at times.
[14:40] <myhero> yea i can try 12.04 for broadcom wifi cards
[14:40] <yandex237891> Syria: You mean supported by Linux, Ubuntu is meaningless
[14:40] <Koompje> Can someone perhaps look at this code? i wrote it but dont know why it doesnt accept numbers higher than 9... Its very simple
[14:41] <Koompje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916085/
[14:41] <Syria> yandex237891:  Yes.
[14:41] <sacarlson> myhero: sometimes newer isn't better, there have been times I have to go back to older code that still works until they fix the new code
[14:41] <myhero> yea that also happens
[14:42] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Can I roll back the changes I made? Regarding Gnome 3.4?
[14:42] <Dr_willis> Syria,  guess it depends on how you installed it.  only 3.4 stuff ive seen is for 12.04
[14:42] <myhero> sacarlson - how to msg to any specific user name....not pvt msg but to any specific user so it gets highlighted
[14:42] <Dr_willis> Syria,  theres always the ppapurge command
[14:42] <yandex237891> Koompje: I think your regex is incorrect
[14:43] <myhero> best is to try the new apps os n coddes live so nothing goes wrong
[14:43] <yandex237891> Koompje: [0-99]
[14:43] <myhero> otherwise must wait for some time
[14:43] <thesheff17> anyone good with gparted?  I have an ntfs partition /dev/sda3 with 132GB of free space behind it but it won't let me reszie it?  Any suggestions?
[14:44] <Syria> Dr_willis: This is what I have done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/916101/
[14:44] <kingkatari> anyone able to help me with this error
[14:44] <kingkatari> checking if PostgreSQL version is >= 7.4.0... yes
[14:44] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
[14:44] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.10.1, ,'
[14:44] <myhero> what every1 think here - windows or ubuntu - which is more user frndly - which is better - which is less bug free ?
[14:44] <yandex237891> Koompje: I don't see why you'd write such a thing in bash personally (unless it's a homework assignment), bash is a disgusting language to use
[14:44] <llutz> !polls | myhero
[14:45] <yandex237891> myhero: Ubuntu was more user friendly with Gnome 2. Windows is more user friendly since Unity.
[14:45] <wylde> !ot | myhero
[14:45] <myhero> kk
[14:45] <Dr_willis> Syria,  time to learn how to use ppa-purge i guess.
[14:45] <Koompje> im just trying to learn a bit... what language do you recommend?
[14:45] <Dr_willis> 'user friendly' = meaningless buzz word.
[14:45] <sacarlson> kingkatari: maybe it doesn't like this version of compiler?  what is it we are compiling?
[14:46] <Koompje> yandex237891?
[14:46] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  what exactly was it you are compiling?  that code seems broken.
[14:46] <myhero> not meaningless...every1 has diff opinions n thinkings...i was not taking polls but just was seeing how the ppl who use think about ubuntu.....nothing more then that
[14:47] <horse01> llutz: unfortunately, I can't found the answer at this adress: http://freenode.net, maybe I must be "registred" for to do that?
[14:47] <Dr_willis> its became meningless because it means so many differnt things.
[14:47] <Syria> Dr_willis:  I am now installing ppa-purge
[14:47] <bazhang> myhero, its offtopic here. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[14:48] <myhero> whatever
[14:48] <haux> After installing fglrx and using amdccc, xubuntu's loading screen (on startup or during reboot) appears to have a lower resolution, and the images (background, xubuntu logo) are stretched a bit horizontally. I have followed various procedures after doing some research, but nothing has fixed that issue. Could someone here help me out with this?
[14:49] <llutz> horse01: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[14:49] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Do i have to do this now? sudo ppa-purge ppa:ricotz/testing
[14:49] <llutz> horse01: and yes, you need to be registered
[14:50] <Dr_willis> Syria,  ive not really needed ppa purge - i suggest finding osme guides on using it.
[14:50] <Dr_willis> bbl
[14:50] <horse01> llutz: thanks a lot
[14:51] <RealOp> ola
[14:51] <RealOp> so um suggestions for a hard drive clone tool
[14:51] <RealOp> ???? :)
[14:51] <rileyp> Dr_willis: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/index.cfm?action=edit&e=33714946
[14:51] <RealOp> hmm i guess maybe dd tool would work
[14:51] <ikonia> RealOp: clonezilla ?
[14:51] <RealOp> AH
[14:51] <RealOp> sounds like what i need
[14:52] <RealOp> i love a zilla
[14:52] <Syria> Yeah clonezilla is pretty awesome.
[14:52]  * zilla feels the love
[14:52] <gfc> QUIT
[14:52] <rileyp> Dr_willis:  if you have the time I have linked to my booting  my issue if you could be so kind
[14:53] <abhisinghal> ow to make pen drive file system FAT???
[14:53] <abhisinghal> how to make pen drive file system FAT???
[14:53] <abhisinghal> HElp
[14:54] <Bragex9> I have memtester 4.2.1-1 on my system. But how do I start it?
[14:54] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: boot drive?  you can use disk utility gui to format in any format you wish
[14:54] <sajimon> abhisinghal: try mkfs.vfat /dev/[your device]
[14:54] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: but for boot you need a different tool
[14:56] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: or sajimon command method will also work for format
[14:56] <myhero> frm which command to obtain pc's mac address ?
[14:56] <bastidrazor> myhero: ifconfig
[14:56] <iceroot> myhero: ifconfig
[14:56] <neonman> ip link
[14:56] <blitz> firefox aurora seems to think I no longer have the correct flash plugin installed after the latest restart, what should I do
[14:56] <myhero> ip link or ifconfig ?
[14:56] <sacarlson> myhero: sudo ifconfig ;  will display each
[14:56] <neonman> any of them, ip link shows less stuff
[14:56] <myhero> k
[14:57] <bastidrazor> sacarlson: you don't need to sudo that.
[14:57] <myhero> what about broadcom issue i asked b4 ?
[14:57] <neonman> Wasn't there
[14:57] <sacarlson> bastidrazor: your correct you can abtain that info from ifconfig without sudo,  but any changes to address will require it
[14:58] <backbox> ciao
[14:58] <sacarlson> myhero: you want a solution?  you should provide the hardware data from sudo lshw; and also google it
[14:58] <abhisinghal> sajimon your command didnt work
[14:58] <horse01> llutz: thanks again, I'll do that later (I have no time now), have a nice day
[14:59] <fayimora> A friend wants to start a business and wants to know what kind of server he should be aiming to buy. He wants to run a SaaS company.. Any ideas?
[14:59] <sajimon> abhisinghal: what exactly didnt worked
[14:59] <pn_123123> Is HUD the only GUI available in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <sajimon> hud isnt a gui.
[15:00] <iceroot> pn_123123: hud is not a gui
[15:00] <abhisinghal> sajimonsee this
[15:00] <abhisinghal> abhishek@abhishek-ThinkCentre-A55:~$ mkfs.vfat/dev/sdb1
[15:00] <pn_123123> Ok.
[15:00] <abhisinghal> bash: mkfs.vfat/dev/sdb1: No such file or directory
[15:00] <iceroot> fayimora: ##hardware
[15:00] <iceroot> abhisinghal: space after vfat
[15:00] <fayimora> ok
[15:00] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: I think that's a sudo command and be carefull to be sure you know what the usb device is before you format it
[15:01] <blitz> is there a way I can point mozilla to the correct flash plugin?
[15:01] <test_> hi, How do I remove wine from this computer? I tried with synaptic and terminal, but it's still there.
[15:01] <yandex237891> test_: I suggest a damp cloth
[15:02] <test_> none of my install applications will work, so I was going to do a complete uninstall and install the newest version
[15:02] <test_> lol yandex
[15:02] <sajimon> abhisinghal: if running with sudo wont change anything, you must install fat utils by "sudo apt-get install dosfstools"
[15:02] <Kian1> Hi guys, lately my Ubuntu is acting weird, when I start Chromium it flashes in and disappear , this happens for some other apps once in a while and but for Chromium it constantly is the case (Ubuntu 11.10) Anybody might know the reason ?
[15:02] <yandex237891> test_: What message do you get when trying to remove it through the terminal?
[15:02] <blitz> have you tried sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[15:02] <myhero> i did ifconfig...output some HWaddr:****** so this address is wifi card address or wifi modem router address
[15:03] <myhero> ??????/
[15:03] <sajimon> Kian1: run chromium from terminal and see whats the error
[15:03] <myhero> i did ifconfig...output some HWaddr:****** so this address is wifi card address or wifi modem router address????
[15:03] <Kian1> Sorry I am a complete newbie in Linux
[15:04] <Kian1> I entered Chromium / chromium / './Chromium' and system couldn't find it apparently
[15:04] <sajimon> Kian1: i think command it chromium-browser
[15:05] <sacarlson> myhero: you might want to pastebinit the info to us for the details example pastebinit | sudo lshw ;  you will need to install pastebinit if not installed already apt-get install pastebinit
[15:05] <myhero> kk
[15:05] <Kian1> it says 'Segmentation fault' !!!???
[15:05] <bastidrazor> myhero: its your wifi card inside your computer
[15:06] <sajimon> Kian1: and nothing else?
[15:06] <Kian1> yes
[15:06] <Kian1> only the command prompt again
[15:06] <WeThePeople> may i spam?
[15:06] <WeThePeople> jk
[15:06] <sacarlson> bastidrazor: I think myhero said it was a laptop, I  have no other details
[15:07] <sajimon> Kian1: run "dmesg" and look for info about chromium fail at bottom
[15:07] <llutz> #972285
[15:07] <llutz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972285
[15:07] <llutz> Kian1: ^^
[15:08] <haylo> my friend is quadraplegic- he does run ubuntu 11, I neeed to make him a foot pedal to control some keys on the keyboard. I figured ubuntu staff is more likely to know  a solution to this than anyone
[15:08] <Kian1> ok just a sec
[15:08] <haylo> a new key board with unique keymapping for my quadraplegic frien would be ideal- but we can modify keyboards or whatever it takes
[15:08] <MarKsaitis> best app in ubuntu lxde to configure existing services, remove or disable them?
[15:09] <llutz> MarKsaitis: sysv-rc-conf
[15:09] <MarKsaitis> llutz, thank you! best
[15:10] <MarKsaitis> not bad. But anything better? I want them at a glance, so I can go thru and remove the ones I do not need
[15:10] <Kian1> I just did 'dmesg' and redirect the output to a file and searched it , no trace of Chromium in that file
[15:10] <blitz> I figured it out myself
[15:11] <sacarlson> haylo: the keyboard is mappable but I'm not sure what or how you want to map it.  you might also consider voice recogognition if voice is still an option
[15:11] <sajimon> Kian1: llutz pasted a link with bug, its appears You are not the only one affected
[15:12] <MarKsaitis> how do I disable and remove the specified service?
[15:13] <MarKsaitis> for example I want to completelly remove bluetooth
[15:13] <Kian1> sajimon, llutz: thanx
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: blacklist the bluetooth module, should be ok
[15:14] <Glacee> Who should I talk to to get our application on the ubuntu repo or having it supported by ubuntu?
[15:14] <MarKsaitis> I want to completelly get rid of that crap ActionParsnip
[15:14] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: it looks like you just check or uncheck the service in sysv-rc-conf,  you want more prity graphics?
[15:15] <yandex237891> Glacee: The best thing is to investigate adding your application to Debian, that way it will automatically be picked up by Ubuntu. I presume it's open source?
[15:15] <MarKsaitis> I don't understand runlevel concept. What does 5 6 0 and S mean?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: then remove the packages named in:   dpkg -l | grep blue    that aren't bluetooth related
[15:15] <erratic>  php 4
[15:15] <bazhang> Glacee, what about a PPA
[15:15] <erratic> php 5.4
[15:15] <Glacee> yandex237891: thanks.. yes it is its an auth system that integrates openstack swift to cloudstack
[15:15] <bazhang> !ppa | Glacee
[15:15] <llutz> !runlevel | MarKsaitis
[15:15] <erratic> !ppa php-5.4
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: blacklisting bluetooth will make it not load, all you will be losing is a few Mb of drive space....
[15:16] <erratic> !porn
[15:16] <Glacee> yeah well.. we have a ppa already but just thought t would be cool to have it in the official repo
[15:16] <bazhang> erratic, /msg ubottu ...
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | erratic
[15:16] <erratic> no way he no know nothing
[15:16] <erratic> i msg u
[15:16] <Kian1> sajimon: so sould I revert back to prev version of kernel ? (how we do that ?)
[15:17] <test_> kexanie, someone may have resolved your problem with crome, but if not you can try opening ubuntu software center (assuming you are using ubuntu) and install the Chromium web browser which is the same as crome. I hope that helps
[15:17] <yandex237891> test_: Chromium != Chrome. Chrome is proprietary software. Chromium is not.
[15:18] <test_> I thought that is where crome come from, the Linux chromium
[15:18] <sacarlson> Kian1: you can change the defalt kernel boot with a gui grub-customize that can be found in ppa
[15:19] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone I'm having a problem executing an init.d rc file, I copied and updated a similar file to a new file name. I ran update-rc.d swstomcat defaults and that ran fine.
[15:19] <MarKsaitis> how do I blacklist a service? should I uncheck it instead then? what the diffeence?
[15:19] <Remowylliams> but when I try to execute /etc/init.d/swstomcat start it tells me *swstomcat is not installed
[15:19] <MarKsaitis> so what is runlevel 0 and S ?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel
[15:20] <Kircle> After uninstalling emerald and trying to use compiz as my window decorator my window borders disappear after opening another window that's maximised. Here's my ubuntuforums entry http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952677
[15:21] <melvincv> !upstart
[15:21] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: might sudo start swstomcat ;  work?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: run:   echo "blacklist bluetooth" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[15:21] <nemos>  failed to call wbcGetpwnam: WBC_ERR_DOMAIN_NOT_FOUND any clue?
[15:21] <Kian1> sacarlson: thanx alot, another issue I have is that everytime I boot I get a different dispaly resolution with so many error on resolution auto detect and refresh rate I guess
[15:21] <nemos> error i get with wbinfo -i username
[15:21] <Kian1> after several trials finally it goes full screen resolution
[15:22] <nemos> ???
[15:22] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: No I don't thinks so because I can use /etc/init.d/tomcat6 start just fine
[15:22] <sacarlson> Kian1: I guess that's a xorg thing? maybe your monitor isn't detected or it's specs are unknown
[15:22] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: and not running it as a required user should generate a privilage error not a not installed message
[15:23] <Kian1> sacarlson: it's an old VAIO laptop
[15:23] <jeremiah_> can someone please tell me how to instal sun java 6 runtime from the website via terminal?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: sun don't own java now, it's oracle
[15:24] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: maybe a path problem?  how did you install it?
[15:24] <yandex237891> jeremiah_: I think it's in the default repositories
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[15:24] <yandex237891> ActionParsnip: It's still labelled sun_java in the repos isn't it?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> yandex237891: java isn't packaged any more due to license
[15:24] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: I found the problem I'm pretty sure thanks.
[15:24] <yandex237891> ActionParsnip: Well that's a bit crap
[15:24] <Kian1> sacarlson: should I go try to change some config file of xorg ?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> yandex237891: it's oracle, so yes
[15:24] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: so what was the solution?
[15:25] <sacarlson> Kian1: you might want to google your display to see if it's supported and or provide the info to us here
[15:26] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: Have to find the bin directory with the bin/boostrap.jar file it's part of this startup script
[15:26] <RayzrShrp> I have 4 nics on one 11.04 machine and only the first 3 are being listed in ifconfig
[15:26] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: ok cool
[15:26] <RayzrShrp> if I do lspci though the missing one is listed
[15:27] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, ok then oracle java
[15:27] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, Linux jeremiah-HP-Compaq-6910p-00000000 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:27] <anoopthyk> Anyone know about status of Beeceem Wimax support in Linux specifically ubuntu
[15:28] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: they all the same nic chipset?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_:   what is the output of the command I gave please?
[15:28] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, Linux jeremiah-HP-Compaq-6910p-00000000 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:28] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 2 of them are, one of the ones that doesnt show up is the same, a realtek 8139
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support
[15:28] <Kian1> sacarlson: the laptop is a Viao vgn-c140g and the graphic processor is Intel GMA 950
[15:29] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, there isn't many people in there.
[15:29] <Kian1> sacarlson: 1280 x 800 ( WXGA )
[15:29] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: might look at /var/log/system and see what might be found there on that device
[15:29] <fubada> hi, I changed my box from DHCP to static, however, nightly it re negotiates a new DHCP address
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: doesn't matter, precise is not supported here.
[15:29] <fubada> can soemone clarify where that could be
[15:29] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: yep that fixed it. sorry should have read the script.
[15:29] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, ok whatever....
[15:29] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: im guessing they are stepping on each other
[15:30] <MarKsaitis> how to query the system to tell me what runtime is it all in now?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> fubada: how did you define the IP?
[15:30] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: ya could be an interupt conflict or other problem
[15:30] <dr--willis> MarKsaitis:  runtume?
[15:31] <blitz> I have flash-plugin installed, how do I make aurora use that instead of gnash?
[15:31] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: if posible you might just try move the cards to different slots if that's an option
[15:31] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: i dont seem to have a /var/log/system log file
[15:31] <bazhang> blitz, remove gnash completely
[15:31] <dr--willis> !runlevel
[15:31] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, in fact, i am the only one in ther!
[15:31] <MarKsaitis> dr-willis yes
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: channel policy dude
[15:31] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis,  yes
[15:31] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: that is an option but i put them next to each other assuming the share slots would be 1-3 and 2-4
[15:31] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, ya i know...
[15:31] <blitz> ok bazhang, done, now what
[15:32] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: you have to use your imagination I can't remember exactly it's /var/log/syslog
[15:32] <bazhang> jeremiah_, you're not in #ubuntu+1
[15:32] <jeremiah_> bazhang, what? now i see i am in ubuntu+.
[15:32] <jeremiah_> hang on
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> (16:28:54) ActionParsnip: jeremiah_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support
[15:32]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[15:33] <janhouse> can I write ubuntu.iso to the USB flash using dd? should it work?
[15:33] <MarKsaitis> how to query the system to tell me what runtime is it all in now?
[15:33] <blitz> bazhang, now firefox just says "You do not have the correct Flash plugin installed. Get Flash Now" again
[15:33] <dr--willis> jeremiah_:  you are not in there
[15:33] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: well that's how I got my video capture card to work, it just didn't like one slot as I think moving slots changes the interupt signal needed
[15:33] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 8139too: probe of 0000:02:0a.0 failed with error -5
[15:33] <bazhang> janhouse, or cat
[15:34] <janhouse> so dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc should work?
[15:34] <jeremiah_> dr--willis, now i am
[15:34] <janhouse> or do I write it to partition
[15:34] <MarKsaitis> how on earth do I know which runlevels do I uncheck that service for? Also, whats the difference in blacklisting a service and unchecking it on runlevels?
[15:34] <janhouse> /dev/sdc1
[15:35] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 8139too 0000:02:0a.0: Chip not responding, ignoring board
[15:35] <Lantizia> Anyone familiar with mtools?  I know about using the -i parameter so I can avoid setting drive letters... but how are you meant to use that if your performing operations on a partition inside the image?
[15:35] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I googled and see others having the same problem
[15:35] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: hmmm
[15:35] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: problem is I haven't found any in english yet
[15:36] <MarKsaitis> why networking service is in runlevel 0 and 6? Doesnt make a damn SENSE?!?!?!
[15:36] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: lol super
[15:36] <fubada> guys, I changed my interfaces file to a static configuration (removing dhcp), but nightly I seem to obtain a dhcp address somehow
[15:36] <fubada> can someone clarify what could be causing this
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> fubada: do you have network manager still installed?
[15:36] <fubada> not sure, I installed ubuntu-server, dont think it comes with N
[15:36] <fubada> M
[15:36] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: guess ill have to do standard hardware tshoot, pull 8139 that works and try one that doesnt to rule out the card
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> fubada: I'd check
[15:37] <fubada> theres no gui at all
[15:37] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: first one in english don't see a solution in it http://fixunix.com/networking/10831-network-card-problem.html
[15:37] <fubada> no xorg
[15:37] <fubada> so theres no network manager
[15:37] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: its odd that the exact same card works, maybe the card is bad
[15:37] <gmi> fubada: there is adhclient3 process there
[15:37] <fubada> where
[15:37] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: try just swap the card locations it might be a quick fix
[15:37] <Fallout301> at the moment, I'm using ubuntu in a virtual box, so i was kinda wondering if there was a way I could force ubuntu to use 1360x768, it worked for 1 day then decided to only work on any resolution BUT my own
[15:37] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: yep ill try that
[15:38] <fubada> gmi you mean: dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases -1 eth0
[15:38] <fubada> ?
[15:38] <fubada> i need to kill that heh
[15:38] <fubada> thats what it is
[15:38] <FloodBot1> fubada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <gmi> fubada: yes
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> fubada: nm-cli exists, as does wic-curses
[15:39] <fubada> ActionParsnip: i had dhclient running in background, i think killing it fixed the problem
[15:39] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: if i can get this to work ill be able to build a sick CCIE lab using gns3
[15:39] <fubada> i never rebooted after changing interfaces file
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> fubada: could uninstall the package that gives the dhclient command
[15:40] <fubada> i tried that, but it also tries to remove "ubuntu-minimal" with it
[15:40] <fubada> which is not a good idea
[15:40] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: your lab will be cranking trust me
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> fubada: true
[15:40] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 10 usb nics, a 3550, a 3400 and 4 nics in a gns server
[15:40] <alex228> nujnuj
[15:40] <alex228> hell gays
[15:40] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: virtual routers connected to a psycial network
[15:41] <alex228> hello gays
[15:41] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: ok we can only hope
[15:42] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: what did you google on for that?
[15:42] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: just 8139too: probe of 0000:02:0a.0 failed with error -5
[15:42] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: yes
[15:43] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I got 6 results
[15:43] <odisha2> it's #wolfgame - #wolfgame - #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - join #wolfgame - #wolfgame - let's go #wolfgame - come on #wolfgame
[15:45] <lqw_Einstieg> hi
[15:45] <bse__-> hello. i was wondering: i have a 1tb harddisk in my ubuntu box. i know that they calculate that in GB, not GiB. so actually that should be equal to 931 GiB. but then there's a large discrepency when i do "df -h". it tells me the actual size of the drive is 917 GiB, it says 131 GiB are used, and 740 GiB are free (131 GiB + 740 GiB = 871 GiB, actually). i only have large files (a few hundred megabytes each) on it. it's formatted as ext 4. i was wondering ...
[15:45] <bse__-> ... where the differences originate from
[15:45] <bolly> anyone know if a recently bought logitech microphone can be used with linux - ubuntu???
[15:45] <bolly> I feel robbed.
[15:46] <beandog> bse__-: that's normal enough.  While they are marketed as one, there's always like 10% or so actually missing.  Something about how they count the amount.
[15:46] <bse__-> beandog: that i already made clear - they calculate in GiB, not GB. base 10. but the rest is a mystery.
[15:46] <LjL> bse__-: ext4 allocates 5% of the drive to root-only use, it might be that
[15:46] <Dr_willis> bse__-,  and 5% is reserved for root user recovery. but thats tuneable via tune2fs command
[15:47] <gmi> bse_: the miising 10% are used by your filesystem, when you format it you can use to have less inodes and less reserved space
[15:47] <beandog> bse__-: could be ext4 reserving space for root.  5% by default
[15:47] <bse__-> LjL: Dr_willis: gmi: thanks :)
[15:47]  * melvincv wonders what algorithm the HDD manufacturers use to calculate disk space :P
[15:47] <beandog> LjL: I've never understood the point of that.
[15:47] <Dr_willis> melvincv,  marketing math.
[15:48] <bse__-> oh yes, 5% actually matches exactly the difference in what df -h shows
[15:48] <LjL> beandog: well nowadays it could be made less i guess, but the idea is that logfiles and important things will still be written to disk even when it's "full"
[15:48] <mneptok> beandog: if you accidently fill all space and suddenly cannot write to config files, logs and such, the system will break in bad ways.
[15:48] <Dr_willis> I set the reserved space to 0% on my homes :) but rarely touch it on /
[15:48] <bse__-> then about 2.5% may be for the filesystem itself, and it's explained
[15:48] <beandog> LjL: Does it actually use that though?  That's what I've never figured out.
[15:49] <LjL> beandog: yes, i've sometimes been unable to write to the disk as a user, but i could as root, so i can personally confirm it does ;)
[15:49] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: are there any tools to interface with that realtek card?
[15:49] <beandog> LjL: really.  Well, that's cool.  So it's a built-in quota.
[15:50] <mneptok> beandog: it is unused but reserved. 1% should be enough on a 1TB disk. "sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/WHATEVER"
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> hi, I have a mirror downloaded onto my hard-drive for ubuntu oneiric. Having trouble getting software center to install from this mirror on hard-drive.
[15:50] <beandog> mneptok: agreed.
[15:50] <beandog> I usually use tunefs to reduce it
[15:50] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: tools?  you can setup options in modprobe.  I'm not sure what you mean
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> I add the line "deb file:///reposdir oneiric main restricted universe muliverse.
[15:50] <Dr_willis> the tuneing% change will only take affect after the fs is remounted i think. Might need a reboot.. not sure.
[15:50] <RayzrShrp> lsmod
[15:50] <gmi> bse__: read this http://www.wiredrevolution.com/system-administration/free-ext3-reserved-blocks-with-tune2fs
[15:50] <RayzrShrp> oops
[15:51] <nuxx> hi everybody
[15:51] <Unknown0BC> Yet software center seems to not install from this repository on hard-drive. I don't understand why. I did a "apt-get update" yet it is not working.
[15:51] <bse__-> gmi: thanks, i guess 1% will be plenty then. my main drive is a very small ssd which still has about 50% space left anyway
[15:51] <nuxx> im having some trouble to install d-link wifi dongle  on ubuntu
[15:52] <Unknown0BC> I am wondering if any of you successfully use a repository on local hard-drive.
[15:52] <nuxx> can someone help me please
[15:53] <mneptok> nuxx: the first step is to find out who made the wireless chipset in that D-Link, because D-Link did not. "lsusb -vvv" with the dongle plugged in should tell you. Realtek, Broadcom, someone like that.
[15:53] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I'm finding some methods to modify the irq settings in this example http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=137268
[15:54] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I think it's a irq conflict as my best guess
[15:55] <sacarlson> nuxx: what is seen with that device with command  lsusb ;
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 007 Device 002: ID 04f3:0213 Elan Microelectronics Corp.
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <FloodBot1> nuxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:57] <mneptok> !pastebin | nuxx
[15:57] <nuxx> sorry
[15:57] <sacarlson> nuxx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903327
[15:58] <mneptok> sacarlson: wifi dongle, not flash storage.
[15:59] <sacarlson> mneptok: that's the only device I see
[15:59] <phpN00b> can some one recommend me a goo webbased torrent client?
[15:59] <sacarlson> nuxx: so I guess your device isn't seen at all, try another usb port
[15:59] <mneptok> sacarlson: nuxx is asking about a wifi dongle. and his paste was cut off by the bots.
[16:00] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: dmesg is showing one on irq 18 and the other on irq 21
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> phpN00b: transmission has a web UI
[16:00] <i7c> phpN00b: so has deluged, but i find deluged very buggy.
[16:00] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: maybe the card cant work at irq 21
[16:00] <i7c> better stick so transmission indeed.
[16:00] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: or something else is also using irq 21
[16:00] <phpN00b> ActionParsnip, I need it to work over ssl
[16:01] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: is there a way to list what is using what irq?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> phpN00b: deluge
[16:02] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I'm sure there is
[16:02] <thunder1212> do i need to upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 LTS distro if i purchase new hardware like a printer which is not being automatically detected or installed on my current distro.. plz help
[16:03] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp:  cat /proc/interrupts
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: yes it will be detected. I'd go for an HP
[16:04] <mneptok> thunder1212: did you check the printer compatability? - http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[16:04] <sacarlson> thunder1212: I would look in ppa before I upgrade.  for me upgrade is a last resort
[16:05] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 21 is not listed
[16:05] <RayzrShrp> eth0 adn eth1 are using 16 and eth2 is using 18
[16:05] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: well then it must not conflict then
[16:06] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: actually the printer got detected its also being shown there in the printers list but whenever i give a print command it shows no error and reports the job competed although it didn't print anything..
[16:06] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: and what happens when you move the card to a different slot?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: remove the printer and reboot. Reinstall it and it may help
[16:07] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: maybe the card really is broken,  I have had one bad nic card in 30 years
[16:07] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: yeah i wont know until tonight when im home and can move around the cards, ive never had a bad card
[16:07] <JeroenDeDauw> I think my grep is broken, is there some way to reinstall?
[16:08] <mneptok> sacarlson: if it's 30 years, you are extremely lucky. Token Ring cards has hideous fail rates.
[16:08] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: what makes you think it's broken?
[16:08] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: did all that, even downloaded the drivers from hp website for the printer and installed manually as explained on the hp site .. i downloaded around 100+Mb of missing libs durint the installation ans it still did not print anything..
[16:09] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: because it does not find any matches when it should, and some scripts using it are failing
[16:09] <sacarlson> mneptok: we had got good stuf from sun micro in the old days
[16:09] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: can you pastebin some examples?
[16:09] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: what would  good example be?
[16:09] <angs> I use ubuntu 10.04. when it is powered up, if it can not find monitor, it gives an error and stop the start up process. how can I disable the option to scan if there is monitor or not on the pc?
[16:09] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: one that fails :-)
[16:10] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: im guessing it has to do something with both network cards being the exact same make/model
[16:10] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: i mean, you can just reinstall the grub package, but it might be useful to understand the error, in case it is not limited to grep.
[16:11] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I would think you would have more problems with other vendors conflict,  you would think the same model would be made to work together
[16:11] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: I have been trying to fix git review for 4 hours now. I want it to work. I don't care why it's broken anymore at this point.
[16:11] <JeroenDeDauw> And it looks like the issue is coming from grep
[16:11] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: you will if it breaks again.
[16:11] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: it did not break, this is a fresh Ubuntu install on which it did not work
[16:11] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: not much else i can think to do right now without being able to move those cards around
[16:11] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: oh but being two of them they may default to the same irq
[16:11] <thunder1212> sacarlson: so u don't upgrade ur distro and u look in the ppa of the newer versions and install the requisite software..
[16:12] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: what makes you think reinstalling the package will be of use, in that case?
[16:12] <sacarlson> thunder1212: yes I stick with lts
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | angs
[16:12] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: I don't think it will, I think it might.
[16:13] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: well, give it a try.
[16:13] <sacarlson> thunder1212: I play with other versions in virtualbox and multiboot in my test partitions when needed
[16:13] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: I am not a sysadmin and don't care about dealing with this stuff, I want to get back to my actual job
[16:13] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: how?
[16:13] <JeroenDeDauw> if I do sudo apt-get remove grep it gives a warning
[16:13] <dr--willis> !find grep
[16:13] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall grep"
[16:14] <tomu_> hello
[16:14] <dr--willis> wonder if hes useing some grep alternative like egrep
[16:14] <sipior> dr--willis: they all come from the same package :-)
[16:15] <dr--willis> !find egrep
[16:15] <Bend> Hello, can you help me to install video card driver? I have a AGP Radeon 9100.....Xubuntu 11.10 doesn't find any hardware driver :(
[16:15] <DropsOfSerenity> dr--willis, that's really handy, is there a way to find a package like that using a command? apt-cache search is never that good, is there like a !find grep just like how you did
[16:15] <thunder1212> sacarlson: ok .. so do you try a lot of linux distros on ur laptop and if i try a lot of distros on my laptop.. that is if i test many distros on my laptop will it get damaged?
[16:16] <dr--willis> apt-file  DropsOfSerenity   is handy
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> hi im trying to burn an iso image
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> usign k3b
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> on kubuntu
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> but i cant get it done
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> can someone please help?
[16:17] <FloodBot1> michaeltaxon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: i need a way to manually set the irq for that second card some how maybe
[16:17] <thunder1212> sacarlson: also if u could tell me how to add ppd of latest versions of ubuntu bcoz my printer works with ubuntu 11.04 and later vers.
[16:17] <sacarlson> thunder1212: one thing I use a desktop unit,  and you should be able to at least try a live cd or boot an iso with no risk as long as you don't overwrite any of your preinstalled stuf
[16:17] <dr--willis> michaeltaxon:  and the error is?
[16:18] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
[16:18] <michaeltaxon> hi dr willis
[16:19] <MangledBody> Hi everyone! Can anybody help me with Tibia client? The native one for Linux is chopping as hell, but the windows one under Wine runs flawlessly... Anyone knows how to change settings, or what is missing?
[16:19] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no i mean will there or can there be a hardware failure if i do too much installtion and uninstallation on my laptop
[16:19] <jack65> hello
[16:20] <michaeltaxon>  dr willis
[16:20] <sacarlson> thunder1212: your not forced to install to try, and no if you keep a spare partition to play with I can't see how you might damage something.  but anything is posible I suppose
[16:20] <dr--willis> !details
[16:20] <michaeltaxon> the error  is cdrecord returned an unknown error  (code 255)
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: are there any bugs reported? Have you tried in Unity2D?
[16:20] <michaeltaxon> sometimes using TAO writing mode solves this issue
[16:20] <michaeltaxon> please help me
[16:20] <jack65> that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: I get the words http://musicaearte.altervista.org/             FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN
[16:21] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: No, nothing... It's just chopping...
[16:21] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: whats odd is under lshw it shows the card but network lists unclaimed
[16:21] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: Unity?
[16:21] <thunder1212> sacarlson: yes, i agree with u on that ;)
[16:21] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: is there somewhere i have to tell it to use that card?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:21] <jack65> that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: http://musicaearte.altervista.org/
[16:21] <jack65> I get the word FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN
[16:21] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: I still have Gnome, I have LTS :)
[16:21] <michaeltaxon> hello
[16:22] <michaeltaxon> can someone tell me how to burn iso image in k3b?
[16:22] <thunder1212> sacarlson: so plz tell me how to configure the hp printer thats misbehaving on 10.04 lts and working properly on 11.04..
[16:22] <michaeltaxon> i keep gettin errors
[16:22] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: oh you could reload the driver to see if it will load now.  sometimes it's a sequence thing
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: Unity is a shell for Gnome, so Unity uses Gnome as the DE still
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: do you use compiz?
[16:22] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: No, but it's really simple game, Mana World has absolutely no problems
[16:22] <michaeltaxon>  I need to burn an iso image in k3b...can someone help me? i keep getting an error - code 255
[16:23] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: what happens is that several drivers are tried on the same device and puts it into a strange state and sometimes a reload after boot will get it working
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: do other burners run ok? Are you using KDE?
[16:23] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: how do i reload the driver?
[16:23] <michaeltaxon> im usim using k3b
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: are there any bugs reported?
[16:23] <michaeltaxon> and what do you mean by other burners?
[16:24] <michaeltaxon> the only burning software i used is k3b
[16:24] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: No, that's the wierd part :(
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: is your DESKTOP KDE, or are you using Unity/Gnome etc?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: I'd report a bug
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: are you using Unity?
[16:25] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: OK... Can you tell me how can I run something uder Wine as root?
[16:25] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: what I think you do is remove the module rmmod and then modprobe  to reinstall it
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: why does it need root?
[16:25] <RayzrShrp> lsmod
[16:25] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: Just patch on a higher version
[16:25] <Guest415> Hi. I have ubuntu 11.10. And I need to add debian ppas. And what debian's codename i should use?
[16:26] <michaeltaxon> no
[16:26] <joubin> Hey, does anyone know what modle acer is on ubuntus home page
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: change your directory to where the app is stored and run: wine filename.exe
[16:26] <michaeltaxon> im using kubuntu
[16:26] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you :)
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: I'm VERY doubtful it will need rott, as the only files you will edit are the ones in your users home
[16:27] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: there is also insmod see http://linux.die.net/man/8/insmod  for the list of others
[16:27] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: OK :)
[16:27] <MangledBody> Bye
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: so you don't need root access there as you have full access to your own daat
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> ah well
[16:28] <wylde> everyone wants to run as root. Even if/when you convince them they don't need to, they want to abuse sudo! >.<   </rant>  </ot>
[16:29] <kevin__> Hi just jumped over from mint 10 to 11.10 see what it's like
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> kevin__: no bad thing :)
[16:30] <kevin__> seems OK to me :-)
[16:30] <thunder1212> sacarlson: how do you update to the latest software on 10.04 lts version
[16:30] <netbus> kevin__: they both have their perks, eh?
[16:30] <kevin__> don't know anybody yet on this Xchat give me time jajaja
[16:31] <sacarlson> thunder1212: all the software?  you can pick and chose what is avalable to update in synaptic
[16:31] <wylde> thunder1212: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:31] <kevin__> only thing I have found that does not work so far is kdenlive
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: do you use Unity/Gnome etc, or are you using KDE?
[16:31] <kevin__> but I will use another one like shotwelll
[16:33] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no i know that, th e automatic updates are on ... not that i mean there are new version coming in ubuntu every 6 months and there the softwares are more upto date in their repos..
[16:33] <thunder1212> wylde: tnks but i dont want to upgrade
[16:33] <DropsOfSerenity> kevin__, you'll find that unity, especially in 12.04 is becoming a really polished and unified experience, that's really solid
[16:34] <sacarlson> thunder1212: there are other updates that happen at random times to random applications in the ppa repositories
[16:34] <kevin__> DropsOfSerenity, I am using gnome 11.10
[16:34] <sacarlson> thunder1212: for that you need to know what you want to update to find them
[16:34] <kevin__> ubuntu sorry
[16:34] <wylde> thunder1212: that "upgrades" the packages, it doesn't upgrade you out of 10.04
[16:34] <wylde> thunder1212:  you'd have to use dist-upgrade for that
[16:34] <DropsOfSerenity> kevin__, yeah I know, just sayin unity is getting better and better, especially in 12.04
[16:35] <thunder1212> wylde: okkk
[16:35] <kevin__> aha
[16:35] <jack65> that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: http://musicaearte.altervista.org/
[16:35] <jack65> I get the word   FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN
[16:35] <DropsOfSerenity> kevin__, and as an old kde 3.5 then gnome 2.6 fan, I now use unity all day every day, for work and play, and I love it, and this is coming from someone who used gentoo for the better part of 3 years, using minimalist *box and xmonad desktops
[16:35] <kevin__> Is this a general chat channel as in Mint julia they get very upset if you use general talk
[16:36] <bazhang> kevin__, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> jack65: I get text/html plugin   in chromium
[16:36] <DropsOfSerenity> you go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <kevin__> it must only be help topics
[16:36] <wylde> kevin__: yep, this is the support channel
[16:36] <jack65> ActionParsnip,    yes
[16:36] <kevin__> OK, getting to know my way around this channel
[16:37] <thunder1212> sacarlson: ok take this eg of hp printer that i have ubuntu 10.04 after upgrade and updates doesn't recognize it but 11.04 easily identifies it ..
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> jack65: seems to need gecko-mediaplayer   source: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1679013.html
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gecko-mediaplayer
[16:38] <kevin__> DropsOfSerenity, you have tried a fair few distros then :-)
[16:40] <sacarlson> thunder1212: that's not much info to work from as you didn't specify what printer it is but here is an example http://askubuntu.com/questions/43088/how-to-install-printer-driver-for-hp-deskjet-1000-j110
[16:40] <kevin__> DropsOfSerenity, so you say about 12.04. Am I missing out on something here using the 11.10 ?, it is very stable but seems a bit to easy to use changing from Mint 10
[16:41] <dms3310> ip
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> kevin__: precise is just the next release of ubuntu and it LTS (5 years support)
[16:41] <dms3310> can i get ip?
[16:41] <auronandace> kevin__: feel free to test 12.04, any issues in #ubuntu+1 until its released
[16:42] <compdoc> you can have my ip
[16:42] <andyxtreme> hello
[16:42] <andyxtreme> i have a question about gnome 3
[16:42] <kevin__> do you guys have any links to the iso, i will give it a whirl
[16:43] <wylde> !ask | andyxtreme
[16:43] <pengemis> anybody know how to find apparmor 2.4 compatibility patch? i'm using maveric with kernel 3.1.3
[16:43] <thunder1212> sacarlson: i have hp deskjet ink advantage k109g printer and i also did an install from the driver downloaded fro hplip opensource site.. and though the install was a success it still did not print and there is no error also.. just says the print job completed successfully,,
[16:45] <auronandace> pengemis: using a custom kernel for 10.10 isn't really supported here, plus 10.10 is end of life this month, consider updating
[16:45] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: removing the module and readding didnt help
[16:46] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: maybe the card is just bad
[16:46] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: any error seen when they are reloaded?
[16:46] <jack65> ActionParsnip,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gecko-mediaplayer      http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gecko-mediaplayer,  ( files that use i386  ???  )
[16:46] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: just that error 5 on probe
[16:46] <andyxtreme> I installed ubuntu 12.04 on VMWare Player and i chose to start with GNOME interface(not GNOME classic). I heard 12.04 comes with GNOME 3.4 but it doesn't look like in the screenshots on the GNOME website, it looks like the classic. Am i missing something?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> jack65: just went to http://musicaearte.altervista.org/index.php/component/content/article/55   and got audio....
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> andyxtreme: askk in #ubuntu+1 for Precise issues
[16:46] <auronandace> !12.04 | andyxtreme
[16:46] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I guess you would have to look at the source code to determine what a code -5 is
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> andyxtreme: Precise uses Unity by default, not Gnome-shell but it can be installed
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> jack65: I did run:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox-radio-browser      noy sure if it helped
[16:48] <pengemis> auronandace, just asking if somebody know how to patch it, i have complicated conditions that force me to not upgrade :)
[16:48] <jack65> ActionParsnip,    ok now I feel
[16:49] <auronandace> pengemis: i hope one of those complicated conditions isn't your dislike of unity (there are alternatives)
[16:50] <kevin__> launcher Icon size, that's handy !
[16:50] <Descriptioned> kevin__ : yes i agree that's handy ;)
[16:52] <pengemis> auronandace, LOL unity take first place! and also my old gpu (nvidia fx 5600), anyway, can you show me what is an alternatives? but i don't like gnome fallback, that's look weird
[16:52] <OysterCult> running natty here and if i upgrade to 11.10 how much more memory does it take to run 11.10 and will 11.04 be uninstalled?
[16:53] <auronandace> pengemis: kde, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[16:53] <jack65> ActionParsnip,        is still            I get text/html plugin   in chromium
[16:53] <sacarlson> thunder1212: I don't see any direct support for that k109g printer close as I find is k109a http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_ink_advant_k109a-z.html
[16:53] <wylde> pengemis: xfce with a bit of time spent tweaking can be made to look/feel like gnome2
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> pengemis: +1 for LXDE :)
[16:56] <thunder1212> sacarlson: so what next.. to do
[16:56] <tomodo> hello
[16:57] <tomodo> I wanted to install wine on my 64 bit ubuntu install and this happens http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=C61WkGUz
[16:57] <tomodo> can anyone give me some advice what to do about it?
[16:57] <sacarlson> thunder1212: so is that the driver you installed?
[16:58] <auronandace> pengemis: if you absolutely must have gnome2 then at the very least move to 11.04, it will be supported for a little longer (but in the end you will need to move away from gnome2 because it is dead (unless mate is supported by ubuntu by then))
[16:58] <Dr_willis>  tomodo  tell it to install? or was there something more specific...
[16:58] <danny> pretty much none of my browesers video players work and they did before
[16:58] <compdoc> tomodo, whats wrong with that?
[16:58] <danny> how do i fix this
[16:58] <tomodo> I'm worried about the 32 bit libs
[16:58] <compdoc> fix what?
[16:58] <tomodo> what if I remove my system
[16:58] <tomodo> by accident
[16:59] <Dr_willis> 32bit libs are needed i belive for wine to work properly
[16:59] <tomodo> ok
[16:59] <compdoc> tomodo, first I would do what it says. Run:  sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:59] <tomodo> thanks you guys
[16:59] <tomodo> oh
[16:59] <tomodo> should I do that?
[16:59] <tomodo> what I remove something important
[17:00] <compdoc> that will stop the error at the top of that list
[17:00] <tomodo> I already pressed yes to install
[17:00] <Dr_willis> someday you want to use autoremove to clean out unneeded stuff
[17:00] <compdoc> thats ok - those unneeded packages will still be there
[17:00] <compdoc> run it after
[17:00] <pengemis> auronandace, hmm, right, 11.04
[17:01] <auronandace> pengemis: better to bite the bullet now and switch to a better desktop environment
[17:01] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no i downloaded the latest version from the hplip website and yes it was for the k109a- http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html(Download HPLIP 3.12.2:)
[17:01] <scarykitties> Hello!
[17:01] <eye-gor> tomodo: if you want wine you'll need to 32 bit libs.
[17:02] <scarykitties> i'm having some trouble attempting to install Ubuntu for the first time.
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomodo: this is multi arch at work
[17:02] <gadien> haven't we all...
[17:02] <tomodo> ok
[17:02] <tomodo> I hope it's safe
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomaw: it is
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomodo: it is
[17:02] <tomodo> it's doing a lot of
[17:02] <tomodo> Selecting previously deselected package lib32ncurses5.
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomodo: dont worry
[17:02] <gadien> scarykitties, whats the problem
[17:03] <Dr_willis> windows has trained him to be shy of information about what the pc is doing.... ;)
[17:03] <compdoc> scarykitties, are you trying to dual boot some other OS too?
[17:03] <scarykitties> Basically, I've tried multiple times to burn ubuntu to a DVD+R (from an ISO gotten from the torrent available on the Ubuntu website for desktop 32-bit of the latest version) and it verifies fine, but when I try to verify the disk on an installing computer, I always get "Error found in 1 files"
[17:03] <scarykitties> No, compdoc; I want a fresh install.
[17:03] <compdoc> which file is bad?
[17:04] <scarykitties> It doesn't say
[17:04] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  burning the cd iso to a dvd? or the dvd iso?
[17:04] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
[17:04] <sacarlson> thunder1212: then you must have followed these instructions? http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: tried a different CD brand?  I'm not aware of any distinction between a CD and a DVD iso
[17:04] <scarykitties> Yes, ActionParsnip
[17:04] <scarykitties> And these DVDs should be fine; I've burned other stuff on them with success in the past
[17:04] <compdoc> scarykitties, I think all you need is a CD
[17:05] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  the default is a cd iso.  try it on a cd.. or try puttig it on a usb stick
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: tried USB?
[17:05] <scarykitties> I'm not sure if my DVDs are always getting screwed up while burning, if this is some kind of Ubuntu bug (GOogle gets a few hits about this "bug", but with older versions, like 8 and 9), if my DVD-Drive on the computer is screwing things up somehow, or if my HDD is bad.
[17:05] <Dr_willis> !md5
[17:05] <thunder1212> sacarlson: yesss
[17:05] <dv310p3r> I'm in ubuntu 10.10. Can I upgrade to the latest kernel 3.2?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: you will need the DVD ISO to burn to DVD
[17:05] <esuave> so i got a question.. if someone is editing the same crontab for the same user at the same time.. is there a way to prevent one person from overwriting the other?!
[17:05] <scarykitties> Where can I get that, Action?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> !download
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> dv310p3r: yes but your OS will not be supported here
[17:05] <sacarlson> thunder1212: sounds like you must have done it correct then,  I'm out of ideas
[17:05] <pengemis> auronandace, i just thinking to migrate to debian now.. lol
[17:05] <scarykitties> Since when has different ISOs been required for CDs vs DVDs?
[17:06] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, ok, but I'll be able to still run my current version of Gnome?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso
[17:06] <danny> and pandora doesnt load does anyone know why i cant use my browser to wacth videos and if u need more information what would u like me to tell you they just dont loud i either get a sry pandora is taking to long to loud or on another website the video will just be black
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> dv310p3r: there is a guide how to make 12.04/11.10 Gnome look like Gnome2
[17:06] <scarykitties> Thanks, AP. But why should it not work on a DVD?
[17:06] <scarykitties> An ISO is an ISO, isn't it?
[17:06] <auronandace> pengemis: you will need to face the fact at some point that gnome2 will not be around forever
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: different data afaik
[17:06] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  no.. :)
[17:06] <scarykitties> Also, have that in torrent, perchance?
[17:06] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
[17:06] <eye-gor> scarykitties: the dvd iso is a lot bigger and contains more stuff
[17:06] <scarykitties> Hm, alright...
[17:06] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, I've seen it, but it's lacking majorly. The classic or fallback mode is missing stuff and it's just not the same. It doesn't feel the same.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[17:07] <netbus> danny: do you have flash installed??
[17:07] <scarykitties> THanks much
[17:07] <Dr_willis> You really dont need the dvd at all scarykitties .  the cd is smaller and can byurn to a cd disk
[17:07] <esuave> how can i make it to where only 1 person at a time can edit the crontab for a user?
[17:07] <gadien> scarykitties, i had a problem where i could'nt install cause i had NO cd drive, I DL'd the .iso file (latest-stable) DL'd LiLi (Linux Live) then the rest is self explainatory
[17:07] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  usb installs are the way to go. :) faster.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: I assume youo want 32bit
[17:07] <scarykitties> Yes, A
[17:07] <scarykitties> *AP
[17:07] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, anyhow, thanks.
[17:07] <danny> netbus, is that included in ubuntu restricted extras?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> dv310p3r: then jump to xfce, it runs a lot like gnome2
[17:07] <scarykitties> Since 64-bit apparently lacks a lot of supported features.
[17:07] <scarykitties> There's a chance it is my DVD drive, though
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: never had an issue
[17:08] <scarykitties> Since just before this, I was trying to install the Windows 8 beta (as a free OS I could use for now)
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  it does? never noticed 64bit lacking any supported features here.. its all i use.
[17:08] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, I believe that may be the route I'm heading. Was just looking for options.
[17:08] <scarykitties> And it had issues installing.
[17:08] <compdoc> scarykitties, drives do go bad, but try the right media first
[17:08] <netbus> danny; i don't rememember.  personally, i'd go straight to adobe, adobe.com/flash and download the latest flash player deb straight from their website.
[17:08] <pengemis> auronandace, actually, i don't really mind about gnome2, but my old gpu didn't support unity (yet-maybe)
[17:08] <scarykitties> Didn't someone just say that there are features only the 32-bit version has?
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  not that i noticed...
[17:08] <pengemis> unity3d*
[17:08] <eye-gor> scarykitties: if the md5sum checks out then it's a bad burn. I used to use cdrw's before I switched ti usb stick
[17:08] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
 tomodo: if you want wine you'll need to 32 bit libs.
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  some apps like wine, use the 32-64bit compatability libs.
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  thats not missing any features.. that IS a feature.
[17:08] <scarykitties> Ah, I see.
[17:09] <io> !repeat | angs
[17:09] <scarykitties> Well, I'll start with 32-bit regardless
[17:09] <scarykitties> I presume that 32-bit Ubuntu is still limited to 4Gb, just like 32-bit Windows is?
[17:09] <scarykitties> 4Gb of RAM, that is
[17:09] <Dr_willis> !pae
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: you can use PAE and access up to 64Gb in 43bit OS
[17:09] <esuave> aonyone?
[17:09] <scarykitties> Hm, alright.
[17:09] <auronandace> pengemis: can't really help you with that, i don't use unity and my nvidia is more recent than yours (but you could use unity2d with that card)
[17:09] <danny> netbus, can u help me find a link cause i cant find a link to download a deb
[17:09] <scarykitties> Question...
[17:09] <scarykitties> How do I learn all this stuff about Ubuntu coming in?
[17:09] <eye-gor> scarykitties: is it a 32 bit machine or 64 bit
[17:10] <scarykitties> 64 bit machine
[17:10] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  read read and more reading. :)
[17:10] <scarykitties> Do I need to rely on IRC to learn how to do even most basic things?
[17:10] <danny> netbus, and i use the chrome browser
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> esuave: you could change the ownerships to the user and no write access for any other user.
[17:10] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  err.. theres 1000's of web sites out with guides and docs...
[17:10] <bazhang> !manual | scarykitties
[17:10] <eye-gor> scarykitties: then get the 64 bit edition. from 12.04 it will be the recommended version
[17:10] <bazhang> !rute | scarykitties
[17:10] <netbus> danny: if you're using chrome, that's a different story.
[17:10] <thunder1212> sacarlson: this is very annoying.. thanks for all the help!! may be i will have to upgrade the distro.. the system does'nt have any data but there is one problem in that.. when i run ubuntu 11.04 i get a black screen on the laptop (on which i have to install the printer.) only when i run with nomodeset=1 from the initial boot menu .. the f6 option if u can recall then only i can see things on the laptopbut its in low graphics..
[17:10] <scarykitties> Thanks.
[17:10] <wylde> scarykitties: noope, there are tons of tutorials, forums and blogs to read :)
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: just use the OS, as you play you will learn
[17:11] <esuave> ActionParsnip: well its the same user.. multiple people are logging on to the same user and editing the crontab
[17:11] <ablyss> not all irc are equal
[17:11] <netbus> danny: on the windows and osx chrome programs, flash is automatically maintained and updated by the browser
[17:11] <io> scarykitties: take a look at: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[17:11] <bazhang> scarykitties, those would be good places to start; also askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums
[17:11] <gadien> scarykitties,  yes. IRC  is a good start
[17:11] <scarykitties> While I'm new as well, this is actually intended for my completely computer-illiterate father.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> esuave: then give them their own accounts
[17:11] <netbus> danny: it automatically updates the flash for you so..i'm not sure why your video isn't working.
[17:11] <xangua> netbus: so does google chrome for linux
[17:11] <danny> netbus, that means i just have to wait for an update :(
[17:11] <danny> netbus, works fine on windows
[17:11] <xangua> netbus: or were you refering to chromium¿
[17:11] <scarykitties> I've heard Ubuntu touted as "super easy to use"
[17:11] <netbus> danny: not necessarily, it could mean there's a setting or something that's not on
[17:11] <scarykitties> I'm dubious of that, but I'll give it a shot.
[17:11] <netbus> xangua: chrome by google
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: it is for the most part
[17:12] <wylde> scarykitties: I got my computer illiterate aunt on Ubuntu about 6 months ago, she loves it :)
[17:12] <scarykitties> Last time I tried Ubuntu, I gave up after I couldn't figure out how to even install programs.
[17:12] <esuave> ActionParsnip: they have their own accounts.. but everyone needs access to this one crontab since it has all processes in there.
[17:12] <danny> netbus, ok any idea were i should look im in preferences rigt now
[17:12] <netbus> danny: you could try installing flash for another browser, like firefox,
[17:12] <pengemis> auronandace, right, but example, we can't change font dpi in ubuntu with unity. i really need that to comfort my self when working with code
[17:12] <scarykitties> Granted, that was 4+ years ago
[17:12] <io> scarykitties: 'Software Centre' or use Terminal
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: software centre is for installing apps, in the past it was synaptic
[17:12] <netbus> danny : get.adobe.com/flashplayer
[17:12] <llutz> esuave: have you ever tried what happens if you open several "crontab -e" and save?
[17:12] <esuave> ActionParsnip: is there not a way to lock the crontab file if someone is editing?
[17:12] <eye-gor> scarykitties: we got the software centre now  - select app the install simples
[17:12] <scarykitties> Problem with Terminal is that you need to know what to type, and i don't.
[17:12] <scarykitties> So it's pretty useless to me
[17:12] <danny> netbus, so i have to swicth browesers ?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> esuave: I believe the OS does that with a semaphone
[17:12] <esuave> llutz: yes.. it just lets people edit all at the same time
[17:12] <eye-gor> scDont need terminal now
[17:12] <io> scarykitties: also remember that the people here were not born using Ubuntu - everyone started somewhere
[17:13] <netbus> danny: no, you shouldn't have to switch browsers. im just trying to trouble shoot.
[17:13] <llutz> esuave: yes, but not save
[17:13] <netbus> danny: do you have all the latest updates/packages from the update manager?
[17:13] <auronandace> pengemis: i don't know how to change font dpi, but i'm not suprised if it isn't available in unity yet (i prefer xfce)
[17:13] <esuave> llutz: one person saves.. than the other saves overwriting any changes the 1st person made
[17:13] <llutz> esuave: it will warn if something changed inbetween
[17:13] <compdoc> I was born using a C64
[17:13] <esuave> llutz: it doesnt warn me? :/
[17:13] <danny> ok what shoudl i dowload the yum the tar.gz or the rpm
[17:13] <scarykitties> I've used Windows basically all my life.
[17:13] <eye-gor> scarykitties: you can browse the software centre on line here. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-browse-the-ubuntu-software-centre-online/
[17:14] <scarykitties> No reason to switch because all the programs I use are for Windows natively.
[17:14] <wylde> scarykitties: it's worth getting to know the more common command line tools at least. If you're on IRC looking for support you'll likely get a few thrown at you anyway :)
[17:14] <danny> netbus, ok what shoudl i dowload the yum the tar.gz or the rpm
[17:14] <ablyss> esuave, cron first loads the file to memory and after about 5 seconds does it actually write to file
[17:14] <io> scarykitties: so why are you here? :-)
[17:14] <scarykitties> I'm just not interested in buying a 100-dollar OS for someone (my dad) who won't use it for anytihng but web
[17:14] <eye-gor> scarykitties: terminal not needed for installing apps
[17:14] <danny> netbus, and yes i have been checking updates daily since this has happened
[17:14] <atpa8a> hello
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: eactly, thats why I use Linux
[17:14] <llutz> esuave: can't tell for *buntu, but on my debian systems you'll get a warning
[17:14] <atpa8a> kinda basic ubuntu question i guess... http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration has both auto and allow-hotplug stanzas
[17:14] <atpa8a> is that common?
[17:14] <OysterCult> is Natty running GNOME or KDE?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: both
[17:15] <scarykitties> If Microsoft had a more reasonable pay scale for Windows, I'd stick with Windows
[17:15] <auronandace> OysterCult: by default unity, but you can use whatever desktop is in the repo
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: natty can run KDE in Kubuntu (by default) or Gnome in Ubuntu (by default)
[17:15] <scarykitties> It's crazy, but Windows XP pro still costs 250+ dollars. Windows 98 costs 100 dollars.
[17:15] <thunder1212> sacarlson: any permanant solutions to my previous issue of black screen
[17:15] <scarykitties> Absolutely ridiculous.
[17:15] <pengemis> auronandace, okay... maybe i need switch to another desktop environments, well thanks for the help :)
[17:15] <eye-gor> scarykitties: have a look here. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[17:15] <io> scarykitties: that's why you're here, and there's Ubuntu ;-)
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: you can get 98 mini which boots fast and it quite cheap
[17:15] <jeek> ONLY web?
[17:16] <jeek> Try xpud :D
[17:16] <auronandace> pengemis: no worries, don't worry, you aren't the only one who hates unity :)
[17:16] <esuave> llutz: right.. so the problem is.. i log on to the user on the box.. open the crontab and edit something.. while im editing, someone else hops on the same machine using the same user and edits the crontab...  i finish my changes.. and save the file.. but the other person still has the old crontab, makes his changes.. and overwrites my changes.
[17:16] <scarykitties> Yup, io.
[17:16] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[17:16] <scarykitties> Thanks, eye-gor
[17:16] <andybooth> BYE
[17:16] <OysterCult> thanks
[17:17] <OysterCult> so can I switch between the two and see what i like?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> jeek: fun isn't it ;)
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: absolutely
[17:17] <OysterCult> how can i do that/
[17:17] <jeek> AP: ?
[17:17] <OysterCult> ?
[17:17] <bazhang> OysterCult, sure. any of them kde4, gnome, xfce4, lxde/openbox etc
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: you choose at login
[17:17] <scarykitties> I understand the hate for Microsoft. Their price demands are ridiculous.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> jeek: xpud
[17:17] <scarykitties> Though I still dislike Apple more.
[17:17] <ablyss> esuave, kind of pointless to have multiple users for single user account
[17:17] <bazhang> !ot | scarykitties
[17:18] <scarykitties> Oh, sorry!
[17:18] <scarykitties> I'll stick around for the inevitable questions that will come. Thank you guys!
[17:19] <esuave> ablyss: i agree.. but having one central crontab allows us to dump all of our processes in there and know which ones are actually running.. if we allow other users to create their own cron, we wont know or can change what they are running in their cron
[17:19] <esuave> ablyss: unless your root..
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> esuave: or use sudo.
[17:20] <ablyss> esuave, what you need is to write to
[17:20] <llutz> esuave: workaround: use an editor which uses internal file locking, like emacs.
[17:20] <esuave> ActionParsnip: yeah but than we have to look in 10 different users crontabs to find running processes?
[17:21] <ablyss> separate files and merge them into one cron
[17:21] <esuave> llutz: hmm.. interesting.. i will look at that
[17:24] <thunder1212> sacarlson: ??
[17:25] <michaeltaxon> hello, im trying to burn an iso image using k3b and im having all kinds of problems
[17:25] <michaeltaxon> can someone please help me?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: do you use Unity/Gnome as the desktop or do you use KDE
[17:26] <michaeltaxon> kde
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: ok let me search
[17:27] <llutz> michaeltaxon: mind to tell us, what "all kinds of problems" mean?
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> i tried all these settings
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> you know
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> it didnt work for me
[17:27] <llutz> no
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> im trying to burn iso image
[17:27] <llutz> !details
[17:27] <FloodBot1> michaeltaxon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> if i get specific i'd be flooding
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> so ill talk to you in main
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> in pvt
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: if you install xfburn does it threaten to install a tonne of GTK libs?
[17:29] <michaeltaxon> i havent installed xfburn
[17:29] <llutz> !pm | michaeltaxon ask your question in channel, give full details using full sentences and full lines. (i don't read PMs)
[17:29] <michaeltaxon> oh my god
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: try, if it doesn't install a lot of deps, try it and see if it's better.
[17:29] <michaeltaxon> forget talking in main, ill try to find someone else
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: not noticed a pattern yet with PMing.....
[17:30] <Aufwind> If I try to ssh my computer from an other machine. It works only if I fired up Firestarter before and stoped the firewall. How can I tell my Firewall to accept ssh logins from other machines?
[17:30] <Aufwind> Without stoping the firewall?
[17:30] <Aufwind> Manually?
[17:30] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: there is one problem in that.. when i run ubuntu 11.04 i get a black screen on the laptop (on which i have to install the printer.) only when i run with nomodeset=1 from the initial boot menu .. the f6 option if u can recall then only i can see things on the laptopbut its in low graphics..
[17:31] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: any permant solution to the black screen
[17:32] <llutz> Aufwind: add a rule allowing ssh/port 22 incoming
[17:33] <Aufwind> llutz, does the firewall restart automatically after each reboot, even when I disabled it before reboot?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: what GPU do you use?
[17:34] <llutz> Aufwind: idk, i never used this
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: add a rule to allow port 22/TCP
[17:34] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: intel gma4500
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: are you fully updated?
[17:35] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: u mean i install ubuntu 11.04 and then do an update??
[17:35] <llutz> Aufwind: but if your "firewall" doesn't do what you want it to do, i'd remove it. it makes no sense to have it then
[17:35] <llutz> Aufwind: get an iptables tutorial, write your rules, be fine
[17:35] <MarKsaitis> so can somebody help me? Or nobody knows a solution? I have vnc4server (tried tightvncserver too) installed, using hidden virtual desktops (the default). When I click logoff in my session, IT DOESNT DO A DAMN THING, DOESNT LOGOFF! FTW? Ubuntu 11.04 LXDE!!!
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: yes install the OS then get full updates, may help
[17:36] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, How can I disable the firewall permanentely?
[17:36] <Aufwind> llutz, Thank you!
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: you could wipe out the rules you added.
[17:36] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, There is none. :-)
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: which firewall do you use?
[17:38] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, I just started the guy "Firestarter".
[17:38] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, How can I tell which firewall is underneath?
[17:38] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: but how do i install with a black screen when i can't see anything..
[17:38] <llutz> Aufwind: all those GUIs are using iptables at the end
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | thunder1212
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: I believe it's iptables
[17:39] <llutz> Aufwind: so better to get an idea how to use iptables directly and write a rule-set fitting your needs. http://gr8idea.info/os/tutorials/security/iptables1.html
[17:40] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok will try that thanks!!
[17:40] <thunder1212> bye..
[17:40] <Aufwind> llutz, Thanks for the links.
[17:40] <angs> does anybody know how to disable hardware check on ubuntu in the startup process?
[17:40] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Does anybody know how to stop automatic hardware checking on Ubuntu?
[17:40] <bekks> Tasmania_Ubuntu: Huh?
[17:41] <bekks> Tasmania_Ubuntu: You mean "how to stop udev?"
[17:41] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, llutz I can handle commandline and such quite well, but when it comes to configuration of my machine I am afraid to mess things up. ^^
[17:41] <bekks> You dont want udev to be stopped :)
[17:41] <wylde> Aufwind: make a backup beofre editing :)
[17:41] <angs> I dont want ubuntu to check if I have monitor
[17:42] <angs> because I dont have:)
[17:42] <Aufwind> llutz, ActionParsnip I tried setting a rule. And it seems to work. I'll let the firewall be since I can ssh from other machines now. Thank you both for the advice. Appreciated it very much!
[17:42] <angs> but ubuntu gives an error and says that I dont have monitor
[17:42] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> If I insert a USB into my computer it automatically checks the USB to see if it's in good condition before it puts it into use.
[17:42] <bekks> angs: Which error exactly?
[17:42] <Aufwind> wylde, That sounds like a good and trivial plan. I wonder why I have the idea, when I try to "quickly edit something". :D
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: run:  sudo iptables -L      does it output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916319/
[17:43] <wylde> Aufwind: I learned the backup lesson the hard way :)
[17:43] <wook> hello folks, where to find good howto for editing /sbin/preinit
[17:43] <wook> ?
[17:43] <angs> I dont have monitor now. the error was about "low graphic card" or something like this, I borrowed a monitor then restarted the pc, now I use teamviewer to control the ubuntu
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> !info preinit
[17:44] <bekks> angs: Thats an error occuring when the monitor connected isnt capable of the graphics mode you wanted. Thats all.
[17:44] <llutz> Aufwind: i'd take something like http://www.mista.nu/iptables/ to get a simple basic iptables-ruleset. then try to understand what it does and add you own rules.
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> angs: what do you do on the remote system?
[17:44] <bekks> angs: It doesnt stop Ubuntu from booting, loading, starting or functioning.
[17:44] <angs> I have windows7
[17:44] <angs> on the remote
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> angs: oic, so you control windows from Ubuntu?
[17:45] <angs> bekks: is it about BIOS or ubuntu?
[17:45] <bekks> angs: No.
[17:45] <Aufwind> llutz, This is great, thanks a lot for the link!!
[17:45] <llutz> Aufwind: during the tests , let a cron-job reset all rules ever xx minutes. if all works, remove cronjob and use iptables-save/restore
[17:45] <angs> yes I use teamviewer
[17:45] <bekks> angs: It's about the monitor not being capable of the desired graphics mode.
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> angs: not used rdesktop then? Windows has remote accessibility built in...
[17:45] <angs> ActionParsnip: I didnt know it, thanks I will use it
[17:46] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, The printed list is much longer... But the entrys you pasted are among them.
[17:46] <bekks> Windows always have that...
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> angs: you just need to enable remote logins in the OS and you can use rdesktop. No need for extra sevrices on the windows side.
[17:46] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, llutz My problem is solved. :-) thank you guys! I'll definitely have a look into iptables.
[17:47] <angs> <bekks: I get the error before connecting to the monitor, when the monitor is connected it works fine. however when there is no monitor, it doesnt work. I just wonder if there is any command/option that I can disable monitor checking in the start up?
[17:47] <llutz> Aufwind: better not to rely on any additional confusion layer, aka GUI :)
[17:47] <lesshaste> when I try to open a file in emacs I get "File exists :/dir/.emacs.d/"
[17:47] <lesshaste> what is going on?
[17:48] <eniltalF> Does anyone know if Gnome will be availible at all in 12.04?
[17:48] <bekks> angs: How do you see that error without a monitor connected?
[17:48] <Dr_willis>  eniltalF  gnome is in 12.04
[17:48] <wylde> eniltalF: Gnome3, Gnome2 is dead
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> eniltalF: Unity is a shell for Gnome, so it is already available
[17:48] <Andy2113> hey guys, I need some help. Last night my distro got super buggy. The screen got really messed up, it was all lines and nothing worked. (I'm on 11.04. Today I restarted my PC, and it isn't working properly. I had to access another version of Linux to be atle to type here
[17:49] <Andy2113> wtfff now I can't see anything I type/am typing
[17:49] <Andy2113> gahhhh someone please PM me, I can't seeee
[17:49] <eniltalF> Andy2331: Sounds like your video card is wonky.
[17:50] <michaeltaxon> can someone apart from actionparnsip and llutz advise me on another burning software to use other than K3B?
[17:50] <Guest69604> how do I install a  .tar.gz
[17:50] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Does anyone know why my inet address on my Ubuntu VirtualBoc (emulator), starts with the number "10" Instead of "192"?
[17:50] <michaeltaxon> can someone apart from actionparnsip and llutz advise me on another burning software to use other than K3B?
[17:50] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Guest69604, you need a archive manager.
[17:50] <michaeltaxon> in kubuntu
[17:50] <angs> ActionParsnip: I tried to use remote desktop connection on windows 7 to connect ubuntu, I allowed the remote desktop connection on ubuntu. however I can not connect ubuntu from windows. do I need to install something or what?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: the file could be source or binaries or something else. saying its a tar.gz tells use noting. Its just a compressed archive
[17:51] <eniltalF> tar -xvf <filename>
[17:51] <lesshaste> .emacs.d seems to be owned by root!
[17:51] <lesshaste> what is the directory for?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: what is the filename and where is it stored
[17:51] <Dr_willis> sounds like you ran emacs as root lesshaste ?
[17:51] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, hmm :)
[17:52] <Guest69604> ActionParsnip, easymp3gain
[17:52] <michaeltaxon> dr willis
[17:52] <michaeltaxon> hi again
[17:52] <michaeltaxon> please help me
[17:52] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, I think I used sudo incorrectly.. how can I log in as a normal user using sudo?
[17:52] <Zal> michaeltaxon, if k3b can't do it, probably nothing can.
[17:52] <Guest69604> angs, i use team viewer
[17:52] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  if you are root. use exit to un-sudo
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !info easymp3gain-gtk | Guest69604
[17:52] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, sure but how can I change to be some user using sudo?
[17:52] <Dr_willis> michaeljones,  theres dozens of iso burning tools in the repos.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: why did you not search software cetre before needlessly downloading stuff online...
[17:53] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  i use su,   to switch to a differnt user.
[17:53] <Dr_willis> !burn
[17:53] <llutz> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=file.iso
[17:53] <beandog> xfburn is pretty simple
[17:54] <zykotick9> llutz: +1 on growisofs.  michaeltaxon
[17:54] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, right.. but I want to use the root privs to do that without knowing the user's password
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> i love xfburn
[17:54] <Guest69604> ActionParsnip, I found it on How to geek never though to look
[17:54] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  never tried. Just root and my one user here. :)
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: use it for ANY installs, then start in the web
[17:54] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  check sudo man page perhaps.
[17:54] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, :)
[17:55] <skurcey> Hox caan i reboot and relunch mouse drivers please?
[17:55] <skurcey> how
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> skurcey: unload then reload the module driving it
[17:55] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  with a user having an encrypted home. im not sure it can be done that way any more.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> skurcey: most likely psmouse
[17:55] <Oer> michaeltaxon, if you are burning 12.04 ... it does not fit a regular 700 mb cd-r
[17:55] <azertyu> hello there
[17:55] <azertyu> is it possible to cancel an chmod ?
[17:55] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, nothing encrypted here
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> azertyu: ctrl+C
[17:55] <michaeltaxon> oer please elaborate
[17:56] <llutz> azertyu: undo you mean? no
[17:56] <Onkeltem> Hi all. How to make Chrome use sun java (not openjdk) on linux Ubuntu 11.10?
[17:56] <Oer> michaeltaxon, you need a 800 mb cd-r to burn .. or a dvd
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: sun don't own java, oracle does
[17:56] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: anyway, how?
[17:56] <azertyu> i mean
[17:56] <Dr_willis> !java
[17:56] <imb0red> Would anyone mind helping me out? ~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952981
[17:56] <azertyu> undo chmod permission
[17:57] <AaronDCampbell> I'm trying out https://github.com/abhinandh/py-cloudapp which is pretty nice.  The main problem is that the system tray icon doesn't show in unity.  Is this a problem with the app, or a problem with my unity config?
[17:57] <azertyu> possible ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: just symlink libnpjp2.so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[17:57] <AaronDCampbell> The main reason I ask is that it was a pain to get the Skype icon to show and I still can't get the pidgin icon to show either
[17:57] <lesshaste> Dr_willis,  sudo -u user -i
[17:57] <azertyu> i just done chmod -R 777 /
[17:57] <azertyu> as root
[17:57] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Why is it that my inet address on my Ubuntu VirtualBox (emulator) starts with the number "10" instead of "192"?
[17:58] <azertyu> i would like to undo how oto do ?
[17:58] <llutz> azertyu: backup your personal stuff, reinstall. that is the easiest way
[17:58] <zykotick9> Tasmania_Ubuntu: NAT of VBox uses 10
[17:58] <Dr_willis> Tasmania_Ubuntu,  because vbox has its own private network. Check its docs/manual.
[17:58] <azertyu> why not possible to undo ?
[17:58] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> ahh ok.
[17:58] <Dr_willis> azertyu,  reinstall eveyr file that got changed...
[17:58] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Is it possible to login with putty?
[17:58] <zykotick9> azertyu: there is no "undo", your system is probably pretty broken...
[17:58] <scarykitties> Okay...
[17:58] <llutz> azertyu: theres no list of file/permission, so you have to "guess" what the correct permissions are.
[17:59] <scarykitties> I'm trying to install the DVD 32-bit version of Ubunt
[17:59] <scarykitties> *Ubuntu
[17:59] <scarykitties> I verified the disk; it's fine
[17:59] <scarykitties> I get errors, though.
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> azertyu: the permissions are complex, it will take AGE to get it right. It'll give a good OS if you reinstall
[17:59] <azertyu> that's one i know allready if i m here it is for new feature
[17:59] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: I don't understand. I have sun sun-java6-plugin installed, but Chrome doesn't see it - just openjdk (via IceTea)
[17:59] <scarykitties> For instance, early on, I get an I/O error that says it cannot write files to a disk
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: its not packaged now due to licensing
[17:59] <scarykitties> This is doing a clean install with everything being cleared out and going Ubuntu's default.
[17:59] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Is it possible to login to VirtualBox's private networks with putty?
[17:59] <scarykitties> I don't think it would be the HDD that is broken because the HDD worked mere hours ago.
[18:00] <wylde> scarykitties: is it stopping the install process or jusr complaining?
[18:00] <scarykitties> Is it probable that it is the DVD drive?
[18:00] <wylde> just*
[18:00] <scarykitties> It stops the process
[18:00] <zykotick9> Tasmania_Ubuntu: yes, but you might want to ask in #vbox
[18:00] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: I got the package, it was working week ago. Suddenly it stopped working and disappaered from chrome://plugins
[18:00] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> kk.
[18:00] <scarykitties> "The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk"
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: just symlink the .so to the plugins folder and you got it
[18:00] <scarykitties> Which certainly suggests an HDD problem, but the note says that it could be the DVD drive
[18:00] <AcidRain2012> Onkeltem: sounds like hax
[18:00] <scarykitties> And it's hard for me to believe that the HDD would just die all of a sudden.
[18:01] <Dr_willis> Tasmania_Ubuntu,  vbox machine works the same as a real machine plugged into the network.. the ip it gets depends on how you got vbox configured
[18:01] <wylde> scarykitties: do you have a usb stick handy? I have better luck with those than cd/dvd.
[18:01] <scarykitties> It was working with Windows 7 just 8 hours ago.
[18:01] <scarykitties> I do, wylde
[18:01] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  ive had HD's die while i was using them....
[18:01] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: but hdd do just die all of a sudden, thats how they go out
[18:01] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> I want to run putty on it though.
[18:01] <Dr_willis> clickclack-crash-dead
[18:01] <michaeltaxon> i really hate this channel
[18:01] <scarykitties> Does it require a working installation of Linux to work?
[18:01] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Then leave.
[18:01] <AcidRain2012> this channel hates you
[18:01] <scarykitties> There is no clicking or crashing, Dr.
[18:01] <scarykitties> It's just not installing operating systems
[18:01] <scarykitties> But that could be the DVD drive.
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: what type of errors do you get when installing?
[18:02] <scarykitties> The DVD drive isn't particularly responsive--barely notices me hitting the button to eject the DVD
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> are you sure you are doing "install now" and not "try it out"
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> ;)
[18:02] <scarykitties> The error is an Input/Output error
[18:02] <scarykitties> Yes, I am sure, Acid
[18:02] <wylde> scarykitties: boot into a live session, you can fsck the system HD from there and create a boot usb as well
[18:02] <Dr_willis> Io error = not good...
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> ouch
[18:02] <scarykitties> Let me try the live CD bit, then.
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> sounds like the drive is dead. lucky for you. ebay offers 2TB drives for like 100$ internal
[18:03] <mrintegr1ty> hi, does anyone know of a portable (for runners) heart rate monitor that works with ubuntu for downloading recorded data?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> !java | Onkeltem
[18:03] <wylde> !fsck | scarykitties
[18:03] <beaglebreath> anyone have a suggestion for a tutorial for connecting to this server via proxychains.  currently I've managed to install proxychains, and can use it from cli.  I've also got cap_sasl.pl script and can load it, and configure
[18:03] <beaglebreath>                       it.  Followed several howto's last night but I think I'm missing a step or
[18:04] <mrintegr1ty> beaglebreath: probably better off in #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <bazhang> beaglebreath, #freenode might
[18:04] <scarykitties> The "try without installing" option doesn't work either
[18:04] <scarykitties> Got the same I/O error
[18:04] <AcidRain2012> beaglebreath: proxies are hard to get ahold of now days i believe
[18:05] <bazhang> mrintegr1ty, pretty sure he meant irc server
[18:05] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: i would take the drive out of your computer. and throw it against the wall. thats the only thing i know to do. if that dont make it work. then you need a new one
[18:05] <dackyshawn> however u can get a shell account and start your own proxy server
[18:05] <wylde> scarykitties: probably a bad burn or the optical drive is failing
[18:05] <AcidRain2012> hdd stop spinning when they fail. right? or at least sometimes they do
[18:05] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: sorry i just got here... you're having an I/O error?
[18:05] <scarykitties> I get the same error over and over
[18:06] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  normally.
[18:06] <scarykitties> I've tried burning the DVD 3+ times
[18:06] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: whats the error?
[18:06] <scarykitties> And always at a low speed and verify afterwrds
[18:06] <wylde> scarykitties: whenever you burn boot media to optical devices use the slowest speed possible. It really does prevent a lot of issues :)
[18:06] <scarykitties> And it always verifies 100%
[18:06] <scarykitties> And this time, I checked the DVD before attempting an install
[18:06] <scarykitties> And it checked out with no errors
[18:06] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: with that said then. i would listen to see if its spinning. you should be able to hear it
[18:06] <Dr_willis> id skip the optical drive totally and use a usb.
[18:06] <scarykitties> So as far as I can tell, the DVD is fine
[18:06] <scarykitties> It's spinning
[18:06] <AcidRain2012> also feel the vibration
[18:06] <wylde> scarykitties: ahh ok, what Dr_willis said :)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: I download the jre 1.7 tar.gz and extract it,copy the folder to /usrlib/jvm then run: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/bin/java 81; sudo update-alternatives --config java; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/libnpjp2.so
[18:06] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: what is the error?
[18:06] <scarykitties> But I can't do a USB install if I don't have a Linux distro running
[18:06] <dackyshawn> i had an I/O error as well
[18:06] <scarykitties> And the Try before you install isn't working
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: did mine today :)
[18:06] <dackyshawn> but managed to find a work around
[18:07] <scarykitties> I get an I/O error, ust liek when I try to install
[18:07] <scarykitties> *just like
[18:07] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: thank! I'll try the same
[18:07] <wylde> !unetbootin
[18:07] <wylde> !unetbootin | scarykitties
[18:07] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  you put the iso on the usb properly, then boot the usb.. im not sure what you mean.. therew windows tools to do the task.
[18:07] <Dr_willis> you can even image the iso to the usb with several tools.
[18:07] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: is that literrally all it says? I/O Error?
[18:08] <scarykitties> It says "files cannot be written to hard disk"
[18:08] <scarykitties> "input/output error"
[18:08] <dackyshawn> ah
[18:08] <dackyshawn> ok
[18:08] <scarykitties> "This error is likely caused by a faulty CD/DVD drive..."
[18:08] <scarykitties> "... but could be a faulty hard drive..."
[18:08] <scarykitties> etc. etc.
[18:08] <dackyshawn> not always
[18:08] <dackyshawn> what kind of computer scarykitties ?
[18:08] <scarykitties> That's what it says
[18:08] <scarykitties> Custom built
[18:08] <dackyshawn> how new is it?
[18:08] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: http://www.java.com/ru/download/ - here it offers to download 6  update 31 only...
[18:08] <scarykitties> The HDD drive was working not 8 hours ago with Windows 7
[18:08] <dackyshawn> ok what kind of motherboard are you using?
[18:08] <scarykitties> Then I tried installing Windows 8 and got errors while trying to install
[18:09] <scarykitties> So I gave up and now am trying Ubuntu
[18:09] <scarykitties> And again, errors
[18:09] <scarykitties> I haven't used the DVD drive in some time
[18:09] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: what kind of mobo is it
[18:09] <wylde> scarykitties: likely the dvd drive then
[18:09] <scarykitties> So the DVD drive seems the more likely culprit
[18:09] <scarykitties> Uh... T-Poewr, dacky.
[18:09] <dackyshawn> wylde not true... always sometimes it's the SATA mode in the bios
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> hardware issue
[18:09] <scarykitties> *T-Power
[18:09] <wylde> scarykitties: you can use unetbootin to put the iso on a usb
[18:09] <scarykitties> Mobo worked perfectly with Windows 7 hours ago.
[18:09] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: it's a setting
[18:09] <dackyshawn> i'm tring to get to
[18:10] <dackyshawn> win7 may work with different SATA settings than ubuntu
[18:10] <scarykitties> Hm. Okay, well, let me get into the BIOS
[18:10] <dackyshawn> like for example on my Dell i had it at one point set to ATA and tried to install ubuntu.. didnt work
[18:10] <mneptok> scarykitties: you might want to mg5sum whatever .iso you got
[18:10] <dackyshawn> only when i changed the sata mode to acpi it worked
[18:10] <mneptok> *md5sum
[18:10] <Dr_willis> ive seen similer issues dackyshawn .
[18:11] <scarykitties> SATA 1 is set to "Compatible"
[18:11] <scarykitties> It's not the iso, mneptok
[18:11] <scarykitties> I've tired 2 different ISOs
[18:11] <scarykitties> And verified them all each time
[18:11] <scarykitties> ANd they all check out
[18:11] <FloodBot1> scarykitties: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <scarykitties> It's unlikely that it's 3 broken ISOs in a row
[18:11] <Dr_willis> test the disk in a differnt pc. :)
[18:11] <scarykitties> I verified it in this PC
[18:11] <scarykitties> IT was fine
[18:12] <Dr_willis> then again. if you are burnign them on a broken optcical drive.. its hard to tell.
[18:12] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: check for bit versino
[18:12] <wylde> scarykitties: you could have already made and been booting a usb stick by now ;) hehe
[18:12] <Dr_willis> best answer - use a usb flash. get away from optical media.
[18:12] <scarykitties> Yeah, but if the optical drive was broken, why does it verify without errors against the iso?
[18:12] <mneptok> scarykitties: you say that without checking. maybe the .iso is fine, and it's something about the burn of it. too fast? broken optical media?
[18:12] <dackyshawn> or its the sata mode like i said
[18:13] <scarykitties> If it didn't burn right...
[18:13] <scarykitties> Why would it verify when I check it twice?
[18:13] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: did u look in the bios under the sata ports and see if there is a legacy mode or ACPI
[18:13] <scarykitties> There is an ACPI option, I believe
[18:13] <dackyshawn> ok try selecting that
[18:13] <scarykitties> Sorry, dacky. It's hard to keep up.
[18:13] <scarykitties> Kay
[18:13] <mneptok> scarykitties: you say you cannot boot to a Live session without these I/O errors, right?
[18:13] <dackyshawn> (i dunno if it's gonna ruin win7 tho)
[18:13] <dackyshawn> i mean u can change it back
[18:14] <Zal> MS already ruined Win7 ;)
[18:14] <dackyshawn> it wont hurt it that way, but it may not boot win7 ijn acpi
[18:14] <wisnia> who can help me with changing fonts in ubuntu?
[18:14] <scarykitties> SATA #1 was set to IDE
[18:14] <scarykitties> I set it to ACPI
[18:14] <scarykitties> I'll let you know what happens
[18:14] <scarykitties> That's fine, dacky; I'm installing over Win7
[18:14] <AcidRain2012> i have win7 dual booting with ubuntu. i hate that ubuntu can load, get on internet, and find what im looking for in the amount of time it takes me to load win7
[18:14] <scarykitties> Yes, mnep
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: use myunity
[18:14] <scarykitties> Can't boot to live CD without I/O errors
[18:15] <mneptok> scarykitties: it may be ACPI settings generally, but not being able to access a particular SATA device in general should not affect a Live session.
[18:16] <scarykitties> Does that point to HDD problems or DVD problems, then?
[18:16] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: where chrome plugins are located?
[18:16] <wylde> scarykitties: a live session doesn't even need a HD installed, so DVD
[18:16] <scarykitties> Phew, that's a relief.
[18:16] <wisnia> what is myunity?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[18:16] <scarykitties> I'd rather have the DVD be shot than the HDD
[18:16] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: to know for sure. i would take it out, put it in another computer, mount it. then try to format it to ext3. if that works. the drive is good
[18:16] <AcidRain2012> :)
[18:16] <scarykitties> Don't really have another computer to test it in
[18:16] <wisnia> oneiric
[18:17] <scarykitties> But I do have a DVD drive in an old computer I will try in this one if this SATA settings thing doesn't work out.
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: look in the top right of the screen, little cog. System settings is there. May help
[18:17] <wylde> scarykitties: have you considered the usb option? You could have had it made and almost installed by now :)
[18:18] <AcidRain2012> ^ yep
[18:18] <wisnia> Action:no fonts changing option here
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: then install myunity and run it
[18:19] <AcidRain2012> wisnia: i would also suggest the gnome2 shell that runs over unity
[18:19] <Onkeltem> Does anybody know where Google Chrome plugins are located in Ubuntu?
[18:19] <scarykitties> I would rather install from DVD because 1. it's simpler and 2. It guarantees the DVD drives work
[18:20] <scarykitties> Hm
[18:20] <mneptok> Onkeltem: ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/Extensions
[18:20] <scarykitties> On ACPI settings, this Ubuntu has been "loading" the install for 5-10 minutes
[18:20] <Onkeltem> nmodprime: _plugins_
[18:20] <scarykitties> So something's still not right.
[18:20] <Onkeltem> nmodprime: sorry
[18:20] <Onkeltem> mneptok: _plugins_
[18:21] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: do you actually have your dvd hooked up to the mobo by sata? ;)
[18:21] <AcidRain2012> i mean... you have to ask these things, never can be too sure
[18:21] <wylde> scarykitties: I get what you're saying, but doing the usb install will get you an ionstalled sytem that you can use to test the dvd drive.
[18:22] <scarykitties> Alright, I'll tr
[18:22] <scarykitties> *try
[18:22] <wylde> scarykitties: and it won't hurt the installed system at all if you do have to replace the dvd drive.
[18:22] <scarykitties> I'm trying to load the Live CD nonw
[18:22] <scarykitties> Because I need the Live CD to install from USB
[18:22] <scarykitties> Because my computer can't boot from a USB drive so far as I know
[18:22] <wylde> scarykitties: oh?
[18:23] <Dr_willis> and how old is this pc?
[18:23] <Zal> I can hardly remember the last time I installed from any removable media.
[18:23] <dosfronteras> hey guys havin a lot of issues with ubuntu, in recovery it says"Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init"
[18:23] <scarykitties> PC is maybe 2.5 years old
[18:23] <Dr_willis> i wonder what kind of pc can run windows7 and is so old it cant boot from usb.. :)
[18:24] <dackyshawn> really? and cant boot from USB?
[18:24] <Dr_willis> then again..make the usb and find out..
[18:24] <dosfronteras> also, when i try booting 2 ubu, it keeps restarting
[18:24] <scarykitties> Maybe it CAN boot from USB and I'm just pants-on-head retarded
[18:24] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: ACPI didnt work?
[18:24] <scarykitties> Always a possibility when we're talking about me
[18:24] <dackyshawn> toys in the attic.. you are crazy... truly gone fishing
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> dosfronteras: I suggest you run a memtest from the Grub menu....
[18:25] <scarykitties> Hold on, dacky. Still trying to determine that
[18:25] <dackyshawn> still??
[18:25] <dackyshawn> sheesh.. if you worked for me u'd be fired
[18:25] <dackyshawn> ;-)
[18:25] <dosfronteras> help plz? i have no clue how 2 do that
[18:25] <scarykitties> Live CD wants to know whether it should load a software package from a volume
[18:25] <dackyshawn> ummm
[18:25] <dackyshawn> i dunno
[18:25] <dackyshawn> no
[18:25] <dackyshawn> lol
[18:25] <scarykitties> No explanati on of what package from whta volume.
[18:25] <FloodBot1> dackyshawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <scarykitties> I said no
[18:25] <scarykitties> Now it's just on a blue screen with a mouse.
[18:25] <jeremiah_> why does a file brake when i mark to install it in synaptic?
[18:26] <dosfronteras> k running it..
[18:26] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: that sounds furthur than before
[18:26] <scarykitties> It is
[18:26] <scarykitties> But it's not doing anything so far
[18:26] <dackyshawn> strange that it needs a special package tho
[18:26] <dackyshawn> give it a sec u r running from CD
[18:26] <scarykitties> It may recognize that I'd half-installed Ubuntu
[18:26] <scarykitties> And it might be detecting stuff placed on the HDD and trying to run it.
[18:26] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: what other error did you get after the kernel panic? i just read on google that kernel panic is worse thing you can see from ubuntu while it is still operating
[18:26] <dackyshawn> shouldnt if u selected to run live cd without installing
[18:26] <mneptok> scarykitties: no.
[18:27] <scarykitties> Well, then maybe I should restart and try again?
[18:27] <scarykitties> Because it's been on this blue screen for about 5 minutes, now.
[18:27] <dackyshawn> maybe :-\
[18:27] <mneptok> scarykitties: patience.
[18:27] <scarykitties> I don't hear the DVD spinning up
[18:27] <dackyshawn> or select yes next time it asks about package
[18:27] <mneptok> scarykitties: can you move the mouse cursor?
[18:27] <dackyshawn> it loads into memory i believe
[18:27] <scarykitties> Yes, mneptok.
[18:27] <AcidRain2012> yes, it loads into memory
[18:27] <scarykitties> Hm. Well, it's got 8Gb of DDR800
[18:27] <joker404> hi I need 10$
[18:27] <dosfronteras> actionparsnip, why am i doing this? Ubu always resarts. that packages were broken etc. cant even boot up ubu anymore
[18:28] <mneptok> scarykitties: then it's not horribly frozen
[18:28] <AcidRain2012> joker404: what is your paypal? ill transfrer it over now
[18:28] <joker404> serious?
[18:28] <mneptok> !ot | joker404
[18:28] <mneptok> AcidRain2012: do not feed the troll.
[18:28] <AcidRain2012> mneptok: sry :(
[18:28] <PsyCl0ne> Afternoon everyone, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop that has both Win 7 and Debian. I wish to get rid of Debian but maintain my Windows 7 install. In the installer how would I got about this? I am also trying to install 12.04 beta 2.
[18:28] <dackyshawn> FEED ME
[18:28] <AcidRain2012> i cannot feed trolls
[18:29] <dackyshawn> !ot | PsyCl0ne
[18:29] <dackyshawn> PsyCl0ne: try #debian
[18:29] <dackyshawn> (if there is one)
[18:29] <mneptok> dackyshawn: what was that for?
[18:29] <scarykitties> Still nada, so I'm going to give restarting a shot.
[18:29] <scarykitties> It shouldn't take 10 minutes to load a Live CD
[18:30] <PsyCl0ne> why would I have to go to debian for ubuntu help?
[18:30] <AcidRain2012> PsyCl0ne: you should see these options. isnt the loaders for each os installed on that same partition?
[18:30] <jeremiah_> why does a file brake when i mark to install it in synaptic?
[18:30] <dackyshawn> my fault mneptok thought he was installing debian
[18:30] <dackyshawn> mis read
[18:30] <mneptok> PsyCl0ne: the Ubuntu installer will see the Linux partitions Debian created, and allow you to overwrite them
[18:30] <dackyshawn> haha
[18:30] <AcidRain2012> the win7 partition shouldnt be touched
[18:30] <dosfronteras> i have no idea what the memtest does :/
[18:30] <dackyshawn> sorry PsyCl0ne misread your question
[18:30] <dackyshawn> dosfronteras: tests your memory
[18:31] <Dremples> hi all :) I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu to a usb drive (perpetual) with FULL drive encryption, requiring a passphrase or key before it will boot etc
[18:31] <mneptok> Dremples: yes
[18:31] <dosfronteras> well yeah, but why am i doing it? was told 2 run it and dat was it.
[18:31] <mneptok> Dremples: get the -alternate installer, and use it to install to USB. create the LVM/dm-crypt partitions you want/need.
[18:32] <dosfronteras> how many tests does it do?
[18:33] <Dremples> mneptok: thanks for the fast response! ... I was meaning to encrypt the whole usb drive, with only the required boot partition unencrypted (so it boots ofc) hehe, is this what you're referring to?
[18:33] <llutz> dosfronteras: infinite, if you don't stop it
[18:33] <mneptok> dosfronteras: also, when you boot, get to the GRUB menu with <esc> and try running an older kernel.
[18:34] <zykotick9> mneptok: is dosfronteras running grub-legacy?
[18:34] <scarykitties> LiveCD worked this time
[18:34] <dosfronteras> tried. they keep me in a reboot cycle choosing the OS
[18:34] <scarykitties> What was the next step?
[18:34] <mneptok> Dremples: yes. you'll need swap space encrypted with a random seed, and / and whatever encrypted with a passphrase. and yes, /boot should always be unencrypted.
[18:34] <AcidRain2012> you know with ubuntu. it runs great if you do it right the first time and you never have a problem out of it again. but the second something goes wrong, it could be very bad
[18:35] <Dremples> mneptok: thankyou very much
[18:35] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: if it worked this time, and not every other time. and you did nothing different, then that sounds even more like the hdd has failed
[18:35] <codencrazy> I'm having a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS install, the X graphical interface was working great, but the grub boot menu and virtual console was not, I'd get a monitor out of range error. I went and tried to change the gfx mode in `/etc/default/grub` based off a post from super-user, http://superuser.com/questions/66428/how-can-i-change-console-shells-resolution-in-ubuntu-9-10 and ran an `update-grub` and rebooted.
[18:35] <wylde> scarykitties:  yay! You can start the install from inside the live session if you want.
[18:35] <codencrazy> Everything in virtual console, all 6 sessions and GRUB, is working great now. But, now, X doesn't launch, when I hit ALT+CTRL+F7 everything looks ok, and it says `[OK]` all the way down the list. Any ideas?
[18:35] <scarykitties> I'll try it, wylde.
[18:35] <BobMarley> hi
[18:35] <bazhang> codencrazy, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[18:35] <scarykitties> Can i test the HDD somehow from this live version?
[18:35] <scarykitties> To see if it's bust or not?
[18:35] <BobMarley> what is the full path of the /var/logs  ?
[18:35] <wylde> scarykitties: but maybe make a usb first from the live session ;)
[18:35] <scarykitties> SOmething about fdsiK/
[18:36] <dosfronteras> so basically allican do now is format. Great..
[18:36] <wylde> !fsck | scarykitties
[18:36] <scarykitties> Working on using Lili USB Creator to do that right now, wylde
[18:36] <AcidRain2012> BobMarley: im pretty sure that is the full path
[18:36] <scarykitties> Uh... o-kay, ubotto.
[18:36] <jpsullia> control is showing in panel
[18:36] <scarykitties> I'm sure I'll have questions. Be right back.
[18:37] <BobMarley> i want to see the  MP tables or ACPI are the apic ids of the other cpus
[18:37] <dosfronteras> WAS ABLE TO boot o ubu!
[18:37] <zykotick9> BobMarley: but it's /var/log/
[18:37] <dosfronteras> i  need 2 fix dis
[18:37] <scarykitties> Nevermind.
[18:37] <Descriptioned> im using cygwin on windowsxp and i did chmod +x on afile but i get this message. ./start: line 262: ./unix: Permission denied
[18:37] <jpsullia> volume control is showing in panel
[18:37] <scarykitties> LiveCD is now in a crash loop.
[18:37] <dosfronteras> files are back....
[18:38] <scarykitties> I can use the mouse for a while...
[18:38] <jpsullia> volume control is not showing in panel
[18:38] <scarykitties> Then it freezes for 10-15 seconds
[18:38] <dosfronteras> wtf is going on?!
[18:38] <scarykitties> Then the screen goes black and the desktop comes up again.
[18:38] <scarykitties> Then a few more moments, then another freeze, etc. etc.
[18:38] <scarykitties> Until finally it crashes to terminal.
[18:38] <jpsullia> ?
[18:38] <AcidRain2012> zykotick9: but in all of my experiences, such as perl and php on a ubuntu system. it appears to never check for that last forward slash. i think it assumes
[18:38] <dosfronteras> i guess ill run the update manager
[18:38] <dosfronteras> hoping for the best
[18:39] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: hold up dude. you need to back things up first
[18:39] <AcidRain2012> dont miss your chance
[18:39] <zykotick9> AcidRain2012: BobMarley mentioned /var/logS i was trying to point out there is no S
[18:39] <jpsullia> ?
[18:39] <jpsullia> ?
[18:39] <AcidRain2012> zykotick9: oh, i didnt catch the S
[18:39] <level09> what is the best video streaming server for ubuntu ?
[18:39] <wylde> scarykitties: ok, so it completed the usb or crashed trying to make it?
[18:39] <dosfronteras> dont have removable media
[18:39] <scarykitties> Which options should I select for the Linux Live USB Creator?
[18:39] <bastidrazor> level09: ushare does well.
[18:39] <i7c> jpsullia: stay calm.
[18:39] <dosfronteras> im kinda S.O.O.L
[18:40] <AcidRain2012> level09: i like ices
[18:40] <i7c> jpsullia: which desktop?
[18:40] <scarykitties> I didn't even try, wylde. It started crashing as soon as I began to move my mouse.
[18:40] <level09> bastidrazor:  cool, will check that out
[18:40] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: you need to step away from your computer, and go buy a 5$ 8gb memory stick
[18:40] <Dr_willis> level09,  depends on what you are streaming them to.
[18:40] <scarykitties> But on this Win 7 computer that I am currently chattig on, i'm trying to make a bootable USB to install from
[18:40] <jpsullia> gn
[18:40] <scarykitties> As per links someone gave to me.
[18:40] <wylde> scarykitties: I don't suppose you have the ubuntu iso on the hd of that computer?
[18:40] <level09> Dr_willis:  I want to build a video streaming portal
[18:40] <scarykitties> So, what do I need to put into this Linux Live USB Creator to make an installing USB?
[18:40] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: but ive used ices to stream to cell phones, other computers, files. it works great
[18:41] <scarykitties> No, wylde.
[18:41] <jpsullia> artistx 1.1
[18:41] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: a usb storage device for one
[18:41] <Dr_willis> !info ices
[18:41] <scarykitties> I got that, dacky.
[18:41] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: like a flash drive
[18:41] <dackyshawn> lol
[18:41] <scarykitties> So what settings do I put in this program?
[18:41] <Dr_willis> I just use ushare to stream to the other upnp devices on my lan.
[18:41] <scarykitties> Yeah, I got that.
[18:41] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: this is right, it doesnt exist. but you can make it work :)
[18:41] <scarykitties> But how do I make the install on a USB?
[18:41] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:41] <dosfronteras> acidrain2012, wat about ubu one?
[18:42] <level09> AcidRain2012: what is the official page for ices ?
[18:42] <scarykitties> That link someone gave me said to use this Linux Live USB Creator program
[18:42] <wylde> scarykitties: ok you're going to need the iso, to make the usb.
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> level09: i dont think it does have an official page.
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> level09: let me check
[18:42] <i7c> jpsullia: http://bit.ly/HkZd2X
[18:42] <level09> ah okay thanks
[18:42] <wylde> scarykitties: my bad, I ASSumed >.< you had it handy
[18:42] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux has tools to put the iso on pendrive also. for windows and linux. or you can just 'dd' the iso :) if you got a working linux system somewhere.
[18:42] <level09> AcidRain2012:  I was first planning to use ffserver and ffmpeg, then they said it does not support file streaming
[18:42] <scarykitties> That's what i"m trying to do, whoever-gave-me-that-link
[18:43] <scarykitties> I can't keep up with the chat, heh
[18:43] <bazhang> i7c, never use that here
[18:43] <level09> what I want is to actually stream an existing library of video files
[18:43] <scarykitties> "The Oneiric ISO file no longer includes a file called usb-creator.exe in the CD image. You need to download Linux Live Usb Creator."
[18:43] <scarykitties> I would love to, website, if I knew how the hell to do that.
[18:43] <level09> can I just use apache/ nginx to stream files ?
[18:43] <AcidRain2012> http://icecast.org/ices.php u are looking at ices0
[18:43] <i7c> bazhang: lmgify?
[18:43] <bazhang> i7c, correct
[18:43] <level09> AcidRain2012: thanks
[18:43] <i7c> bazhang: mhm why not?
[18:43] <bazhang> i7c, its demeaning
[18:43] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  so what OS are you on right now that you have the iso file.
[18:43] <level09> does any one know what youtube uses for video streaming ?
[18:44] <AcidRain2012> level09: but... documentation isnt that well for ices0, its kinda outdated. i only use it because it allows me to stream mp3 files. with some modifications, you can get it to stream anything.
[18:44] <level09> AcidRain2012: no problem, Ill give it a try
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> level09: flash
[18:44] <i7c> bazhang: ok i won't anymore. the way he asked was unpolite as well, just for my defense.
[18:44] <BobMarley> why when i type :: nautilus .    in terminal nautilus is not oppening in the working directory of the terminal?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> BobMarley: try:   nautilus ./
[18:44] <level09> ActionParsnip: wow did not expect that
[18:45] <AcidRain2012> BobMarley: well i would try gksudo nautilus ./
[18:45] <AcidRain2012> :)
[18:45] <dackyshawn> level09: u didnt know youtube required flash??
[18:45] <level09> dackyshawn:  I was actually referring to streaming technology
[18:45] <Dr_willis> youtube supports html5 for many videos now. :)
[18:45] <level09> the streaming server
[18:45] <scarykitties> Here is where I am: http://i39.tinypic.com/153l1ep.jpg
[18:45] <scarykitties> Now what?
[18:45] <level09> I know flash is on the front end
[18:46] <dosfronteras> acidrain2012, wat about ubu one?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> level09: you can use chromium and you won't need to install flash for youtube, or you can install minitube
[18:46] <BobMarley> gksudo nautilus ./  also is not working
[18:46] <scarykitties> How much size to I pick, what options, how do I make this an install and not just a live USB, etc.?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> level09: ohhh you mean the server technology?
[18:46] <scarykitties> *do I
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: im not sure what your question is
[18:46] <level09> ActionParsnip: yes, streaming server
[18:46] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  click the lighting bolt to tell it to put the iso on flash.. i hate that lili program .:) its so.. ugly
[18:46] <scarykitties> I leave it at 0 Mb?
[18:46] <level09> ActionParsnip: I have video files on my server, and I want to serve them through a streaming server
[18:46] <dosfronteras> for backing up files. Ubuntu one
[18:46] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  persistant save is optional.
[18:46] <scarykitties> And I want it to hide the files on the key?
[18:47] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  optional...
[18:47] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: oh you mean that one thing called "ubuntu one"? the thing kinda like icloud. the hackers paradise? i dont use that
[18:47] <wylde> scarykitties: yes, unless you want to keep a persistant live install on the usb :)
[18:47] <AcidRain2012> but as a termporary storage for your backedup files. i guess it will do
[18:47] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  id uncheck those features. you dont need them
[18:47] <scarykitties> Alright, installing now.
[18:47] <scarykitties> Oh, little late for that one, Dr. Sorry.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> level09: may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
[18:47] <level09> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:47] <Dr_willis> 'Linux Live Usb Creator' one of the ugliest programs ive ever seen. :)
[18:47] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: what tool is that you are using? looks nice
[18:48] <scarykitties> Then you've not seen too many, Dr.
[18:48] <AcidRain2012> lol
[18:48] <dackyshawn> level09: where would u like to stream them to?
[18:48] <scarykitties> Sure, it's a bit tacky, but at least it's not a crap 98-style application.
[18:48] <dackyshawn> over the web to a remote PC?
[18:48] <dackyshawn> or over the LAN level09
[18:48] <scarykitties> It's just "fancy" in the way that keygens often are.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  looks like someone drank paint then puked.. interface has major issues also. :) but it does work at least.
[18:48] <level09> dackyshawn: no, to the internet
[18:48] <level09> dackyshawn: its a public video website
[18:48] <dackyshawn> level09: u could use VLC to do that
[18:48] <dackyshawn> depends
[18:48] <Dr_willis> pendrive linux site has alternatives that work just as well.