[00:10] <xnox> txwikinger, heya
[00:11] <xnox> txwikinger, is it ok to remove ichthux-live (binary package only) from natty?
[00:11] <xnox> Bug #684510
[00:12] <jmwachtel> hi guys, I am having trouble getting python2.7-minimal to configure and I cannot figure it out
[00:13] <kaddi> Hi,
[00:13] <jmwachtel> anyone have problems with it?  I was trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[00:13] <kaddi> anyone know what could be freezing 10.10 completely? It never happened before the upgrade and now it's quite frequent.
[00:15] <James147> kaddi: with any particular program
[00:16] <kaddi> James147: not that I could identify.. I think it /may/ be related to flash and or firefox.. but really the only thing that helps is killing plasma-desktop
[00:17] <kaddi> James147: I can't really do anything once it starts freezing.. with a lot of luck I can switch to ttyl and then get the login dispalyed, however the PC won't be able to process the entered login name quick enough to display the password prompt and I'll automatically be reset
[00:17] <kaddi> so I can't get into ttyl once it happens (and of course it's sporadic and I can't trigger it anyways)
[00:18] <James147> kaddi: well, I would suggest running a process manager in the back ground to see whats causing it
[00:18] <James147> kaddi: or you could try creating a new user and seeing if it happens with them, if not then its a problem with one of your config files
[00:18] <jmwachtel> hi guys, I am having trouble getting python2.7-minimal to configure and I cannot figure it out.  It is preventing me from finsihing the upgrade, it just says "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3"
[00:18] <kaddi> James147: yeah that freezes too and doesn't show anything
[00:37] <kaddi> could this be reltated to the freezing
[00:37] <kaddi> Dec 13 23:14:00 marge kernel: [   23.598237] mtrr: type mismatch for d0000000,10000000 old: write-back new: write-combining
[00:37] <kaddi> Dec 13 23:14:00 marge kernel: [   23.598240] [drm] MTRR allocation failed.  Graphics performance may suffer.
[00:37] <kaddi> Dec 13 23:14:00 marge kernel: [   23.598360] [drm] set up 7M of stolen space
[00:37] <FloodBotK1> kaddi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <pvpv> ...
[00:45] <pvpv> I keep getting file not found messages when I do installs
[00:45] <pvpv> ... that must mean the references are out of date
[00:48] <pvpv> anybody home?
[00:49] <James147> pvpv: yup, but you might want to give us more details... what version? have you chaned the cd and the iso?
[00:49] <James147> s/chaned/checked
[00:50] <pvpv> ok wait
[00:50] <pvpv> my cd rom does not work and I have not yet mounted an external on
[00:50] <pvpv> one
[00:50] <pvpv> I suspect that these laptop dvd drives are junk
[00:51] <pvpv> i think I'm Intrpid Ibix, version 9?
[00:52] <James147> pvpv: any reason you not using 10.10 or 10.04?
[00:52] <pvpv> Isn;t there some simple way for me to update? I think there used to be an icon
[00:53] <pvpv> any reason? welll...
[00:53] <pvpv> I got a 10.04 dvd om tje mail
[00:53] <pvpv> dfgs;jsdf'pg
[00:53] <pvpv> I got a 10.04 dvd snail mailed to me
[00:54] <pvpv> ... but my dvd drive doesn't work
[00:54] <pvpv> ..... until I got an external one going
[00:55] <pvpv> so you say: update to 10.04? is that really necessary?
[00:55] <James147> pvpv: no, but the imrovment to kde are worth it..
[00:56] <pvpv> i fell like i'm missing something here
[00:57] <pvpv> and like I can't type today
[00:59] <pvpv> there's gotta be a relatively simply way to tell Intrepid Ibex to update its links
[01:00] <pvpv> ..
[01:02] <yofel> James147: if you're using intrepid you'll have to fix your package management
[01:02] <yofel> er
[01:02] <yofel> pvpv: ^
[01:03] <yofel> since intrepid reached end of live the software archive was moved
[01:03] <yofel> *life
[01:04] <yofel> pvpv: can you run 'lsb_release -r' in a konsole and paste the output so we're sure what you're using?
[01:07] <yofel> and to answer your question, you need to switch your mirror to 'old-releases.ubuntu.com'
[01:30] <pvpv> thanks guys, i was elsewhere
[01:30] <pvpv> ... I've got the dvd so I'll see about going to 10, might as well
[01:31] <pvpv> .... but, I also have a Pentiium 1 running breezy badger, I'd like to at least get LIRC running on it if not
[01:31] <pvpv> everything else
[01:31] <pvpv> ..,,'
[01:32] <pvpv> stupid question: how do I change my mirror?
[01:40] <yofel> pvpv: for old releases I fear you'll have to edit you /etc/apt/sources.list by hand and change the URL
[02:07] <pvpv> how typical... "hey, you can just type apt-get install git and it's all automatic
[02:07] <pvpv> only under the very best of circumstances...
[02:14] <yofel> pvpv: it is as eays on that on supported releases, if you don't want to update all the time you should use an LTS release, meaning 8.04 or 10.04
[02:14] <yofel> *as easy
[02:14] <yofel> meh, *as easy as that
[02:16] <X9nLinuxL> Does Kubuntu (I think this is about 8.0?) have anything equivalent to MacOSX 'System Profiler' to get machine / OS info?
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Depends on what information you want
[02:20] <X9nLinuxL> For starters it would be good to verify for sure what OS is installed.  For seconds, RAM, HD space, and a few other occasional yummies are useful
[02:21] <d_ed> kinfocenter
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> ksysguard can show you processor and memory usage
[02:23] <X9nLinuxL> Thank you.  I'm kinda... not too swift on this OS yet.  Am beginning a long term migration from MACOS to Linux.  Will take a look at those for a bit here.
[02:26] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, KInfoCenter will tell you almost everything
[02:26] <Dragnslcr> I had forgotten about that
[02:28] <X9nLinuxL> Haven't even figured out what all the basic software is in this OS yet... much less get used to it.
[02:28] <X9nLinuxL> First thing I did was figure out chat, browsing, email... and by that time am hooked.
[02:29] <X9nLinuxL> it doesn't run 'like a mac' its a lot more versatile.
[02:30] <pvpv> yofel: what about 8.10, that 's what I am
[02:30] <X9nLinuxL> Any clue how would I put a hard drive icon on the desktop?
[02:32] <yofel> pvpv: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases, intrepid reached end of support in april 2010
[02:32] <pvpv> ok wait.... the first was warty warthog, so it goes backwards?
[02:32] <pvpv> well you said 8 or 10
[02:32] <yofel> yes, because 8.04 was an LTS release, so it's supported for a longer time, lts means long term support
[02:33] <yofel> pvpv: you should use 10.04, that will be supported till april 2013
[02:33] <pvpv> oh ok....
[02:34] <pvpv> well I guess that settles is... i presume I can updated the os and not reinstall, reformat etc
[02:35] <yofel> pvpv: that'll be a bit complicated since you need to upgrade to 9.04 first which is unsupported too, but there was a guide for that IIRC
[02:35] <pvpv> i also presume that I cannot type worth a damn today
[02:36] <pvpv> oh really? so if i go to 10 have to back up my data and start again?
[02:38] <pvpv> right?
[02:38] <pvpv> ... unless i go to 9 first... well crap
[02:41] <yofel> pvpv: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[02:41] <yofel> took me a bit to find it
[02:57] <pvpv> .... or do things the old fasioned way, downloading and installing
[02:58] <pvpv> but then you're in "dependency hell"
[03:32] <wujie> 请问如何上网
[03:43] <makuseru> Im having problems getting HDMI working on my laptop (nvidia graphics) Neither twinview or seperate x screen work with the latest nvidia driver. Twinview works with the old driver (173) but seperate x screen doesn't. Anyone know what would cause this and how I could fix it?
[04:01] <Gitann0> hi there guys.
[04:02] <Gitann0> does anybody know how to boot the live kbuntu cd to ram, such as possible on pclinux os?
[04:07] <Gitann0> ok thanks.... greatchannel
[04:09] <rww> hah. impressive patience there.
[04:17] <frogonwheels> rww: wow 5 minutes
[04:26] <tilted_mind1> anyone playing Black Ops on their kubuntu box?
[05:26] <joe847> .
[06:13] <wqapol> For some reason kate snippets doesnt work for me. I enabled Kate snippets and enable a repository, I cant use them in the sidebar.
[06:14] <wqapol> Even though I have many repositories enabled none appear in the sidebar.
[06:55] <andrewh192> hey, how do i change the settings for my stuff, so that when i click on a link it opens with Firefox
[06:56] <andrewh192> for some reason it trys to open with Mozilla Thunderbird
[06:56] <andrewh192> and then comes up witth a launch dialog asking me to find the appropriate program to open that link with
[06:57] <moetunes> can you browse to /usr/bin/firefox in that dialog?
[06:57] <andrewh192> yeah
[06:58] <andrewh192> is that where it would be?
[06:58] <moetunes> normally yep
[06:59] <moetunes> most apps are in /usr/bin
[07:01] <andrewh192> ok
[07:01] <andrewh192> kewl thanx
[07:01] <andrewh192> why do u think it would think to try opening itt with thunderbird though?
[07:01] <andrewh192> i mean, is there a settings area for where that stuff is setup at/
[07:02] <moetunes> maybe you selected mozilla somewhere somewhen
[07:07] <andrewh192> ok
[07:07] <andrewh192> hmm
[07:07] <andrewh192> i just reinstalled kubuntu from the usb
[07:08] <andrewh192> thing that gets me, is out of all the programs i have on here, it choose the mail reader program to open a html document
[07:08] <andrewh192> not a web browser
[07:08] <andrewh192> just seems strange
[07:08] <andrewh192> how do i change it permenantly?
[07:11] <moetunes> I would right click a html file snd select what to open it with - there's something in system settings for doing that to all file types to iirc
[07:27] <IdleOne> !panels
[07:27] <IdleOne> hmm
[07:28] <IdleOne> How do i get the default panel back?
[07:32] <moetunes> you could rename .kde and logout/login - there's a file in there that does the panel - buggered if I can remember what it is called now tho IdleOne
[07:33] <IdleOne> thank you
[09:23] <abosahar> welcome
[10:04] <sami> join
[10:14] <alumno_> hello
[10:14] <alumno_> can someone helpme ?
[10:14] <alumno_> help me *
[10:15] <moetunes> depends on what you need help with...
[10:19] <valorie> !ask | alumno_
[11:53] <andrey__> Всем привет! Помогите настроить соединение с интернетом по кабельному модему
[11:58] <moetunes> !ru | andrey__
[12:05] <Guest24266> hi there
[13:27] <changer> salve a tutti!!!
[13:27] <changer> qualcuno ha un attimo? ho un problema con il packetmanager su kubuntu.
[13:28] <changer> dopo un istallazione di flash player andata male
[13:28] <Pici> !it | changer
[13:28] <changer> a ok sorry
[13:28] <changer> !it
[13:32] <changer88> hi! i'have a problem whit the packet manager
[13:36] <changer88> i can't use it becouse the system tell that another packet manager is in use
[13:36] <changer88> but i not open another
[13:37] <changer88> no one can help me?
[13:37] <moetunes> !aptfix
[13:38] <moetunes> I wonder if that is sti;; relevant
[13:38] <moetunes> s/sti;;/still/
[13:40] <changer88> ok thank
[13:40] <changer88> going to tryt
[13:40] <moetunes> luck
[14:13] <shane4ubuntu> ok, doesn't seem to matter what I do, I cannot monitor my temps with widgets.  I have lmsensors, and stuff installed, because in gnome I can monitor the temps fine, but none of the plasma widgets seem to be detecting them!????  Any ideas??  I have installed other temp widgets too, none of them seem to work for me.
[15:35] <shane4ubuntu> wow, pretty slow in here today, no one has any ideas about temperature monitoring in kde?  is there another way besides widgets?
[15:37] <EvilRoey> ::cricket::                                 ::cricket::
[15:38] <tsimpson> shane4ubuntu: use the system monitor and add thermal sensors to a new tab
[15:38] <James147> shane4ubuntu: what exactly do yuo want to know?
[15:38] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: system monitor, as in the widgets?
[15:38] <tsimpson> shane4ubuntu: no, the application
[15:39] <tsimpson> ksysguard
[15:40] <shane4ubuntu> James147: been trying to figure out how to monitor temps, I know the system is capbable of it, because I had them on my panel in gnome, just having a hard time figuring out how to get them working in kde, and widgets don't seem to be picking up any sensors.
[15:41] <James147> shane4ubuntu: you have lm-sensors  installed right?
[15:42] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: wow, I never would have found that, however I don't see temp's anywhere in the list.
[15:43] <shane4ubuntu> James147: yep, I have lm-sensors and sensors, I had gnome installed, and then installed kde overtop of gnome, so unless I need something in addition for kde, I would think I have all I need.
[15:43] <tsimpson> shane4ubuntu: do you have ACPI listed? or Hardware Sensors?
[15:44] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: nope, none of those?  odd.
[15:46] <tsimpson> this is what I have: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimpson/ksysguard.png
[15:47] <shane4ubuntu> James147: ok, I just remembered how to run the sensors-detect,  it has been a while since I had to run that, and I kept trying lm-sensors, and searched for lm* and wasn't able to turn up anything
[15:47] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: yeah, I don't have that option?  perhaps I need to install acpi?
[15:48] <EvilRoey> hi
[15:48] <EvilRoey> I am trying to figure out if this is a KDE or a Kubuntu problem:
[15:48] <EvilRoey> i get this error when I try calling Amarok's DBUS API am.Playlist.totalTrackCount() from Python:  AttributeError: _DeferredMethod instance has no attribute 'totalTrackCount'... what's up with this?
[15:49] <tsimpson> shane4ubuntu: it should be pre-installed, the core is part of the kernel and there are a few acpi tools like acpi, acpi-support and acpid
[15:49] <tsimpson> EvilRoey: you'll have better luck in #amarok
[15:49] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: well, I installed kde over gnome, so I'm missing things here and there, I just installed acpi
[15:50] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: I guess I need to reboot, or can I start acpi on the fly?
[15:51] <tsimpson> the acpi package contains a tool to dump the acpi info, you shouldn't need to restart
[15:51] <tsimpson> try running "acpi -t"
[15:57] <shane4ubuntu> acpi -i
[15:57] <shane4ubuntu> No support for device type: power_supply
[15:57] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: there is acpid  I tried to start that, but it said it was already running
[15:58] <tsimpson> acpid looks like it just runs scripts when some acip events happen (like pressing the power button)
[15:58] <shane4ubuntu> I ran sensors-detect  and kept the default stuff, then added the modules to /etc/modules, and modprobe  to load the modules.
[15:58] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: right, I was under the impression that acpi was for laptops?
[15:59] <tsimpson> it was intended mostly for laptops, as they have more hardware events and sources (like the display brightness etc)
[16:00] <tsimpson> but most desktops and all recent ones should have it too
[16:00] <shane4ubuntu> right I guess so.
[16:01] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: ohh, apparently running sensors-detect and loading the modules added the hardware to my ksysguard, now I can see them!
[16:03] <tsimpson> make sure the modules were added to /etc/modules and everything should just work
[16:03] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: yep, I added them, thanks!
[16:06]  * dasKreech loves Linux :)
[16:07] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: ok, after killing plasma-desktop and restarting it, now they are showing up in my widget too,
[16:08]  * shane4ubuntu loves Linux more than dasKreech   :)
[16:08] <dasKreech> apt-get install love-booster
[16:08] <dasKreech> su nice-12 loveboost
[16:08] <dasKreech> Nuh uh!!!
[16:10] <shane4ubuntu> lol. :)
[16:20] <shane4ubuntu> ok, simple question, how do I set what opens pdf documents in KDE?  In gnome I right click on the doc and select properties, and click open with and choose the default app I want.  I'm sure there must be a way in KDE?  Any suggestions?
[16:21] <shane4ubuntu> Ahh, found it nevermind, System Settings, File associations.
[16:31] <James147> shane4ubuntu: you could also right click the file > properties > click the spanner icon on the general tab
[16:32] <shane4ubuntu> James147: spanner??  I just looked again, and saw the wrench, is that the same thing?
[16:32] <James147> yeah, that
[16:32] <shane4ubuntu> James147: thanks, cause I didn't see that the first time around, and that is a little simpler
[16:59] <dasKreech> Why would modprobe <module> not work when a insmod of the module file does?
[16:59] <Pici> dasKreech: where is the module file?
[17:00] <dasKreech> in /lib/modules/$KERNEL_VERSION/kernel/$CATEGORY/$MODULE/${MODULE}.ko
[17:01] <tsimpson> modprobe inserts modules by name, insmod inserts modules by file
[17:01] <dasKreech> tsimpson: Right
[17:02] <dasKreech> modprobe $MODULE should be the same as insmod of that string above
[17:02] <dasKreech> How does Modprobe find the module?
[17:03] <tsimpson> "modprobe looks in the module directory /lib/modules/`uname -r` for all the modules  and  other  files,  except  for  the  optional  /etc/modprobe.conf  configuration  file  and  /etc/modprobe.d directory"
[17:03] <tsimpson> is also uses modules.dep apparently
[17:04] <tsimpson> if you've recently installed a module manually, you'll want to run "sudo depmod" to update the modules.dep
[17:06] <dasKreech> tsimpson: Ah that may be it holdon
[17:51] <sobczyk> is it possible to remove execute bit from files mounted on ntfs?
[17:55] <tsimpson> sobczyk: ntfs does not support unix-style permissions, so probably not
[17:55] <oyster> hi! is there a way to remove window titlebar in kde?(Maybe a theme or something...)
[17:58] <James147> oyster: right click the title bar (or click alt + F3) > advanced > no border (for a single window)
[17:59] <James147> or right click the title bar > configure window behaviour > Window rules (right at the bottom) and create a window rule to turn on no border for all windows
[17:59] <oyster> Wow! Thanks a lot, James147
[18:16] <oyster> James147: Is there a way to save borders, but remove titlebar only? Or i'll have to modify theme?
[18:16] <bloodsmith> gah... pissed...
[18:17] <James147> oyster: you will probally need a theme for that, but I do not know of any... you might want to note, however, that you can alt+right clci (and drag) to resize windows
[18:17] <bloodsmith> whenever someone has a minute to listen to my plea, I have screwed up the system again... downloaded something that changed my interface from Kubuntu 9.10 to some Ubuntu thing.
[18:18] <oyster> James147: thanks again, will be torturinng oxygen theme now:)
[18:20] <James147> bloodsmith: what did you down load? and can you post a screen shot of your system?
[18:21] <bloodsmith> give me a minute
[18:25] <bloodsmith> WTF?!?!? cant get my damned screenshot to paste!!!!!!
[18:26] <bloodsmith> ok, so I downloaded edubuntu. could that have changed everything?
[18:26] <James147> bloodsmith: paste into what?
[18:27] <bloodsmith> James147: some painting program that came with edubuntu. tis simpler(i thought) to do that than to start up gimp
[18:28] <James147> bloodsmith: you should be able to launch ksnapshot and save the image directly in that
[18:29] <bloodsmith> James147: ok, lemme try it, never have before
[18:32] <bloodsmith> http://yfrog.com/2mscreenshotdyxp
[18:32] <bloodsmith> try that
[18:32] <ko2> hello, can you help me with that: http://dpaste.com/285764/
[18:34] <James147> bloodsmith: yup, that looks like gnome :) if you want kde logout, select kde from the session menu and log in again (assuming you still have it install, if not then install "kubuntu-desktop" and try chaning the sesstion again)
[18:36] <ko2> i have kde3.4 or kde 3.5 and the program i want to use uses qt>=4.3. Might that cause the problem?
[18:37] <bloodsmith> james147: uhm... I'm kinda shortbus in this situation, dude... Where is the session menu, under the logout controls in the top right corner, or in the applications directory?
[18:38] <James147> bloodsmith: it will be on the login screen somewhere, but where depends on if your using kdm gdm as well as what theme your using
[18:39] <bloodsmith> ok, so restart and look at the login screen. right?
[18:39] <James147> bloodsmith: so you first need to log out
[18:39] <James147> bloodsmith: logout, you dont need to restart
[18:39] <bloodsmith> james147: gotcha
[18:40] <bloodsmith> james147: and I need the "Kubuntu Plasma Desktop System" in the repositories, right?
[18:41] <bloodsmith> cause if so, I've got some downloading to do
[18:41] <bloodsmith> but first, cigarette time, brb
[18:42] <James147> bloodsmith: if your not sure, install "kubuntu-desktop", that should pull in everything you need for a kde session
[18:43] <sysop1> hi
[18:43] <James147> Hello sysop1
[18:43] <sysop1> need  help getting seamless virtualzation to work in 10.10. can kdrc do it or do I have to use rdeskop?
[18:44] <sysop1> I cant get rdesktop to work it shows the whole screen instead of just the program I specified(iexlore)
[18:44] <sysop1> rdesktop I mean
[18:45] <James147> sysop1: so you want to run programs on a remote computer and not in a virtual desktop?
[18:47] <bloodsmith> ah, needed that.
[18:47] <bloodsmith> james147: should I download it through terminal or kpackagemanager?
[18:48] <James147> bloodsmith: it dosent matter
[18:49] <bloodsmith> james147: ok, well when I typed in 'kubuntu-desktop', plasma desktop system packages show up.  Anyone know how to install actual screensavers on kubuntu? like, right now my screen just goes black
[19:00] <oyster> dasKreech: yes, but that removes borders also(no nice blue window backlight)
[19:00] <James147> bloodsmith: install "kscreensaver" then you should be able to chose one in systme settings
[19:02] <James147> (system settings > monitor and display > screen saver)
[19:11] <bloodsmith> james147: ok, still working on it
[19:22] <bloodsmith> james147: done, got it, thanks again. hmm... know of a way to set up password protection on a single folder and its contents, without having to make the folder a .zip file?
[19:24] <James147> bloodsmith:  This might help: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-a-private-encrypted-folder-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid.html
[19:25]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[19:27] <oyster> hey, I've manged to save border and remove titlebar!=)
[19:38] <Nece228> hi people
[19:38] <Nece228> since kubuntu 12.04 is moving to raster
[19:39] <James147> Nece228: you mean 11.04?
[19:40] <Nece228> oh yeah sorry
[19:40] <Nece228> i thought its 2011 already :D
[19:40] <bloodsmith> james147: thanks again, I've gotta get back to work now, peace!
[19:40] <Nece228> since it uses raster graphicssystem how are you gonna make go-openoffice work with it?
[19:41] <Nece228> i mean it just crashes to me giving segfault in style
[19:41] <Nece228> altough im using arch linux
[19:42] <Nece228> but i saw same bugreport of openoffice
[19:46] <skafti> good evening
[19:49] <skafti> hm guess its not so good
[19:53] <dasKreech> skafti: hi
[19:53] <dasKreech> it's blimey cold
[19:53] <skafti> yep i think around -20 here
[19:53] <skafti> :)
[19:54] <skafti> das can you open this flash ? http://www.playhub.com/racing-games/84/Traffic-Slam.html
[19:55] <dasKreech> Doubtfull
[19:55] <dasKreech> I don't have Flash installed
[19:59] <nikaros> is there done any work on flash clone like gnash ?
[20:00] <nikaros> I hope flash will die sometime ;)
[20:27] <kifeur> hi
[20:28] <kifeur> I've installed kubuntu, and did install the ati-drivers, but I can't get the 3D-effects working
[20:30] <kifeur> if I activate the checkbox in the system settings -> desktop effects (I hope I translate it correct :-)), it seems to work, but if I switch the tab, and switch back again, the message, that desktop effects are turned off is displayed again :-(
[20:30] <kifeur> can anyone help me with this issue?
[20:31] <kifeur> I'm not able to get the checkbox "activate desktop effects" activated (it is disabled)
[20:32] <kifeur> is nobody available in here?
[20:44] <karthick87> !dsl
[21:25] <mjobin> hi !
[21:25] <mjobin> I've added software repository for KDE 4.6 beta 2 but I dont see any available updates
[21:33] <yofel> mjobin: what does 'apt-cache policy kdelibs5' tell you for Candidate: ?
[21:33] <mjobin> 4.5.3
[21:33] <yofel> mjobin: did you refresh your package cache after adding the repository (sudo apt-get update will do that)
[21:33] <mjobin> from ppa-backports
[21:34] <mjobin> yofel: yes I did
[21:34] <yofel> mjobin: erm, kde4.6 beta2 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[21:34] <mjobin> but I added all three into one .d file, I'm not sure if it is allowed
[21:34] <mjobin> mjobin@mjobin-laptop:/usr/lib/qt4/demos/chip$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-lucid.list
[21:34] <mjobin> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu lucid main
[21:34] <mjobin> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu lucid main
[21:34] <mjobin> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/experimental/ubuntu lucid main
[21:34] <mjobin> mjobin@mjobin-laptop:/usr/lib/qt4/demos/chip$
[21:34] <FloodBotK1> mjobin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:35] <yofel> mjobin: we don't have any beta packages for lucid
[21:35] <mjobin> oh ! I did not s/lucid/maverick
[21:35] <mjobin> thats the problem, thanks
[21:37] <mjobin>      4:4.5.85a-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 0
[21:37] <mjobin> right on ! thanks
[21:56] <mjobin> yofel: thanks
[21:56] <mjobin> I'm excited to try the new 4.6
[21:56] <mjobin> especially the new kate tree view
[21:57] <yofel> heh, works mostly fine here, except some hal/udisk issues which are being worked on
[22:05] <benvantende> hmmmm did not try kate yet
[22:06] <benvantende> but overall it runs very smooth and a little faster then 4.5
[22:17] <amichair> is there any way to see what kubuntu-default-settings would do (on an upgraded system) and pick the desires changes manually?
[22:20] <rork> amichair: I would say make a new user, configure it and copy your ~/.kde directory (be sure to keep your mail, contacts etc and make a backup)
[22:20] <rork> *your = the
[22:23] <amichair> I found some config files at /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/, maybe it's enough to diff them with my current ones manually
[23:02] <mauri_> im not able to boot un dos image from pendrive using grub2...... help
[23:03] <amichair> can anyone confirm what the maverick default font settings are for fixed width and window title (under system settings -> application appearance -> fonts)?
[23:05] <amichair> nevermind, I'll run a fresh install in virtualbox and compare settings
[23:17] <mauri_> im not able to boot un dos image from pendrive using grub2...... help
[23:25] <frogonwheels> mauri_: you might want to be more explicit about where it's failing... what messages you are getting, what you've tried  (pastebin configs &c)
[23:30] <mauri_> frogonwheels: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/543838/
[23:31] <mauri_> frogonwheels: what i did is download an msdos622.iso image and I try to boot it from usb using grub2.
[23:35] <mauri_> frogonwheels: are you still there?
[23:40] <phoenix_firebrd> is there a channel for strigi ?
[23:43] <mauri_> frogonwheels: are you lost
[23:57] <andrewh192> hey anyone know of how to download install drivers for a HP Deskjet 4180 "all in one" printer
[23:57] <andrewh192> i looked on the HP's websitte, but the link for the linux driver was down
[23:58] <andrewh192> anyone have any other ideas?


[10:42] <ian_brasil> j #uds
[10:51] <playya> is this a proposal or a typo ian_brasil ?
[11:26] <ian_brasil> playya its a typo
[11:27] <playya> ok
[12:05] <playya> argh. quiver isn't gpled :(
[13:01] <heret1c> 'lo :)
[13:02] <heret1c> have an iddue w. gmobilemedia/serialUSB/permissions. groups. wozzit.
[13:02] <heret1c> issue
[13:18] <heret1c> anyone here?
[13:22] <playya> heret1c, not really. i think they're on there way to UDS


[02:55] <ubptgbot> jstmee was added by: jstmee
 Microsoft brought Nokia - disaster … Microsoft brought LinkedIn - disaster … Microsoft brought github - you know it
 @Strangerer, linkedin isnt a disaster
 nor is minecraft for instance
 also, offtopic
 (Sticker, 273x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5aFUUB1n.webp
 @amolith, You should try reading the beautiful Terminal tutorial made by the UT writers :)
 https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/terminal-chapter-1-113
 @amolith, [Edit] You should try reading the beautiful Terminal tutorial made by the UT writers cats :)
 @amolith, The full command is `pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted /path_to_click_package/whatever.click` (note the allow untrusted part)
 @advocatux, Right, --allow-untrusted is important!
 Yep
 @advocatux, So no need for UT Tweak Tool anymore. 👍
 Yes, the CLI method is straightforward
 Fwd from maharudra108: Any ubuntu kernel porter?
 Fwd from maharudra108: If anyone ported stock ubuntu kernel of ubuntu phone to their non ubuntu phone then help me plz
 By giving repo link
 @maharudra108, What is a stock ubuntu kernel?
 could be kernel on the BQ devices buildt by canonical?
 nowait sense it makes not
 @Flohack, Bq e4.5 (krillin) kernel
 @maharudra108, You probably will not be successful with kernel porting. You need to stick with the kernel that was delivered by your device vendort. What device you got?
 @maharudra108, [Edit] You probably will not be successful with kernel porting. You need to stick with the kernel that was delivered by your device vendor. What device you got?
 @Flohack, I have only custom kernels for my device
 My device is mt6582..
 And after seeing mtk device plz don't ignore me...
 A BQ kernel will not fit onto tnhis device. Is there a LineageOS port for it?
 google says Lineage OS 14
 @maharudra108 see for porting UT to new devices here: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 if you have questions while porting, you may ask them in the Halium porting group: https://t.me/halium
 @YougoChats, Bro i tried many times but every time reboot at boot logo
 well, i haven't tried myself but i do see that it is indeed no easy task.
 This time i thought why don't i port ubuntu-kernel
 As my device already have daredevil kernel ported from krillin
 i haven't heard of anyone else doing that, no idea if it even works that way
 Can u tell me one thing if i want to build ubuntu touch for krillin then what should i do?
 How developers build ubtouch for krillin?
 i can only point you to the porting guide and the halium porting group, which i already did
 @YougoChats, Hmm ok
 start out with the proper Lineage OS kernel for your device and if you're lucky, people will  know what settings and components you need if they ported to a phone with some of the same hardware as yours.
 @maharudra108, If your device´s hardware doe snot 100% match krillin then you will end up with a lot of problems. Maybe even it cannot mount the SD storage etc. Android kernels are all but portable :)
[09:42] <ubptgbot> asierurbi was added by: asierurbi
 hello all!
 i am looking for gmail and yahoo mails apps
 they are not available in the openstore
 anyone has the installation files?
 thank you
 Dekko supports gmail account. don't know about Yahoo, but probably too
 dekko handles mu;ltiple acocunts well
 yes, but the notifications do not work :S
 ? work for me
 yeah yahoo should work (well about as good as outlook as they are both pretty shoddy servers)
 @asierurbi, i read something about allowing dekko to run unsuspended to allow notifications daemon to do it's thing.
 @YougoChats I cannot recieve notifictions, and all the incoming mail does not appear in the root inbox folder
 @YougoChats, That's not needed 😊
 @DanChapman, ok
 @asierurbi, try https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/uploads/d6e03b08e2309a5b4da83b5fd594ed6d/dekko2.dekkoproject_0.1.6_armhf.click
 you can install it with the open-store app
 ^maybe account settings are just wrong? als gmail needs to be set to "less secure"to allow dekko acces
 [Edit] ^maybe account settings are just wrong? als gmail needs to be set to "less secure" to allow dekko access
 @DanChapman, what's the difference with the released one?
 [Edit] ^maybe account settings are just wrong? also gmail needs to be set to "less secure" to allow dekko access
 fixes the inbox being empty. If it can't determine the standard folders then the merge inbox view can't show anything and also no notifications as a result as it uses the same folder flags to figure out what to notify on
 that click should fix it for those affected
 I've never reproduced it myself mind... it's a strange one
 hmm ok. haven't seen that either. my bq M10 was slow to start syncing, and i think it needed a reboot, but it started working after a while.
 [Edit] hmm ok. haven't seen that either. Dekko on my bq M10 was slow to start syncing, and i think it needed a reboot, but it started working after a while.
 @DanChapman Hi dan, I know this was answered zillion of times but whats the today status for Dekko2 on Xenial?
 great dan!
 it worked on my nexus 5!
 @YougoChats, might have required allowing dekko acces via google account settings mail in a browser too, can't remember
 @Flohack, There are differences in camera,ppi,battery,screen resolution.. and i don't think these differences resist kernel to boot..
 @malditobastardo, It's a nightmare tbh. The mime parsing is truly broken! I think I have found what broke with the Qt5.9 change but it's going to take a little while to sort as it touches alot of areas. 😞
 (Sticker, 507x512) https://irc.ubports.com/AdQHSUuS.webp
 Understood, thank you much as usual Dan. :)
 I am very sad now, Dekko is an essential app for UT. My best wishes Dan 😿
 @maharudra108, Did you join @halium group? There are the porters at work
 @Flohack, Yes
 @JBBgameich was working on halium
 For krillin
 Ok then your chances are bigger if you discuss it there. Here the super group is more user-oriented
 What is the problem with it?
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/fAb0VwFE.png How can i fix this problem
 @neothethird, Did you / plan time to have fun with it 🙊😂 ?
 If not, may I add the alias manually in a file somewhere in /snap/ubports-installer/... ?
 so I dont have to put pressure on you, because I don't like to do so ^^
 @malditobastardo, not just essential.... 'core' ;) … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/196/most-wanted-core-apps-to-run-ubuntu-as-daily-phone-os … (join the discussion)
 @wayneoutthere, Thank you Waynez
 I just remember that I posted there yesterday lol
 i haven't dumped my opinion yet ha
 Hallo I can't enable  my Google account with Dekko2. When I click continue  after filling all information necessary for the access it doesent goes further. I want to use imap. Controlled all in the pc, ports and so on. I'm running 15.04 stable on nexus 5.
 @TobiasSchimpf, You need to allow less secure apps or something like that on your Google account (I'm assuming you don't use 2FA)
[14:14] <ubptgbot> Misterius was added by: Misterius
 What is 2 FA? Well I also checked that out indeed because of the new rules in UE but it semms
 Not working ether
[14:21] <ubptgbot> Carlos Gomes was added by: Carlos Gomes
 @TobiasSchimpf, https://www.google.com/landing/2step/
 Good day Carlos and Misterius.  You don't have a Telegram username so I can't 'ping' you but hopefully you will enjoy this page to help you get started.  Welcome! … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @advocatux, There's no "allow less secure apps" there. You would need to create an app password for gmail, if you wish to use imap/pop/smtp for google mail and have two factor enabled.
 @dohbee, Of course, that's why I said I assume he's not using 2FA
 @advocatux, Your statements just make it more confusing as there is nothing special you need to do in google in that case with regardsd to authentication. All you have to do is in gmail settings enable imap access. I was just pointing out that your wording makes it confusing, and mentioning 2FA if you're assuming it's not used,
[14:31] <ubptgbot>  only adds to that confusion :)
[14:45] <ubptgbot> Gerardo Pavón was added by: Gerardo Pavón
 @dohbee, It doesn't just work if you only enable imap access.  … If you don't use 2FA you have to explicitly allow "less secure apps" access https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en . And if you do use 2FA then an app specific password is required https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en . Or
[16:02] <ubptgbot> if oauth is used then it should "just work" but Dekko doesn't support that yet.
 @dohbee, [Edit] It will only work by enabling just imap access if you use oauth.  … If you don't use 2FA you have to explicitly allow "less secure apps" access https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en . And if you do use 2FA then an app specific password is required https://support.google.com/accounts/answer
[16:05] <ubptgbot> /185833?hl=en . Or if oauth is used then it should "just work" but Dekko doesn't support that yet.
 @DanChapman, oh, but when you go to enable imap access, it routes you through toggling that, no?
 Oh does it? it never used to but it's been a few years since I enabled it myself, so might have changed 😊
 well it never used to require all this stuff either
 not sure why it had to be made into a 5-dimensional chess version of confusing, either
 Yep it's a bit mental
[16:40] <ubptgbot> mkoroglu was added by: mkoroglu
 Why aren't the default UT apps in the OpenStore?
 which apps?
 either they're there, or they're debs, i guess
 I uninstalled notes-app a while ago and I was going to reinstall it but it's not there. I don't mind downloading the click and installing like that, I'd just think they'd be in the store.
 notes or reminders?
 ie, the evernote app or the old old notes app?
 The evernote one I assume
 I guess because no one put it there. That'll be fixed with @mariogrip's click builder
 Reminders, I think. github.com/ubports/notes-app
 ugh, the repo got renamed?
 In the openstore group there was some attempt to upload the app today I think
 @dohbee, No, notes-app does evernote
 @UniversalSuperBox, https://launchpad.net/notes-app does not
 Uh
 https://launchpad.net/reminders-app does
 so repo got renamed when imported under ubports i guess
 ah
 @neothethird I'm trying manualy :)
 (Photo, 513x316) https://irc.ubports.com/jOc6Jtai.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/D1exIkgD.png
 but I think igoing nowhere, /snap is read only Oo
 Well yeah
 😢
 That's kinda the point. ;)
 please fix the built
 sudo !!
 :'D
 I think some snapcraft.yml or thing like needed to be updated, the install keyword changed
 [Edit] I think some snapcraft.yml or thing like that needed to be updated, the install keyword changed
 @dohbee I'm unlocking the bootloader... or trying to... however following a guide i found online... i managed to get to the fastboot screen with the debug text and everything... however entering "fastboot oem unlock" it just says < waiting for any device > on my computer... I'm pretty sure there's a step inbetween i'm missing?
 Don't i have to hold down the power button and down button or something so it can accept the command??
 if you are at the fastboot screen then you did all you need to
 but if the device doesn't show up in the list for `fastboot devices` there's probably an issue with the usb connection perhaps
 LOCK STATE - locked .... SECURE BOOT - enabled
 But it worked fine for going into fast boot mode?
 I used adb reboot-bootloader
 i don't understand the question there?
 adb != fastboot
 @arudy, sorry, the snap has some weird problem
 Alright, well i assume i have to do this on my own first, because the installer wont do this for me?
 Is there a ubports guide? The one i'm following is for windows, and so i think i might be missing something.
 i've never used the installer, so not sure
 but i mean, if `fastboot devices` doesn't list your device, the installer isn't going to work either
 And i think thats because i'm missing something with the driver
 there is no "driver" on linux
 and you're on ubuntu 18.04?
 ah, i had to use sudo for that step
 "no permissions"
 @arudy, try this https://ci.ubports.com/job/ubports/job/ubports-installer/job/master/92/artifact/dist/ubports-installer_0.1.15-beta_amd64.deb
 @neothethird, I tryed to edit the right file to add the alias, but I totaly forgot /snap was read only, I 'm not sur I want to make it +w  … I will just copy the snap folder and edit the aliases I think
 @neothethird, or that :)
 @arudy, you can't make it +w
 @arudy, it's just a deb with the device id override
 Horray! @ron
 you can unpack a snap, change it, and repack a new snap, and then install it with allow unauthenticated or whatever, though
 @dohbee Phone is unlocked!
 I'm so sad i didnt had the idea to copy paste the snap folder earlier, i feell dumb now ^^
 Now er... I don't have android anymore, and the installer wants me to enable debug mode 😦
 I guess that meant it would help me with that?
 you still have android
 The device was erased when i did the unlock?
 no
 And it shows that android logo with twitching ears on start
 user data was erased
 android is still there
 huh ok that's weird
 Ah there
 Had to press down and power and select reboot to android
 (Photo, 800x628) https://irc.ubports.com/u0n99GdC.png doh
 are you sure your method of unlocking the bootloader works?
 hum, I can read: … => Fasboot mode (unlocked, unrooted)
 isnt it what needed ?
 Hmm
 @arudy, maybe @TartanSpartan can help there
 i'm not sure how locked down the android version is
 @arudy, just to be sure, hit that try again button
 oh wait
 it *might* just work
 @arudy, does your pro5 have the ubuntu edition flashed on already?
 I used this update.zip to unlock, I already used that for my stolen pro5 … https://www.smoose.nl/sites/default/files/bestanden/meizu_pro5_ubuntu.pdf
 like, the factory ubuntu edition image?
 it is an old docs, still have the ubuntu-flash-device on it :)
 you need to flash the factory ubuntu edition image on, before you can use the ubports-installer
 oh, I dodged it by thinking it will done by the ubports installer
 @arudy, (i didnt see any detail on the pro5 page, or i missread)
 we don't have an image for the pro5 here https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html
 ...
 all of the devices that had retail ubuntu editions, require having the ubuntu edition on the device first
 so some research will be required
 hummm
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6twsZUuI.mp4
 (Photo, 706x241) https://irc.ubports.com/rRP4mWOk.png in my ~/.cache/ubuntuimages/ I have still those files here (from my stolen pro5 install before "the end of the world")
 That's not the factory image. That will cone directly from Meizu.
 @dohbee How do i access that window list view to close apps?
 long swipe from right edge
 ah
 thank you.
 any way to get a screenshot?
 besides mirroring the display?
 press vol up+dn simultaneously
 Any idea when anbox support will be here?
 Also thank you very much for you help.
 when it's ready
 whcih is to say, probably not for several months
 Ah okay...  Woohoo!
 [Edit] Anyways, I'm on telegram from ubuntu 16.04 dev! Woohoo!
 I guess the keyboard autocorrection isn't the greatest?
 What's new in 16.04 over 15.04 besides the obvious change in bases?
 not much
 the main thing is getting stuff working as well in 16.04 as it was in 15.04
 And i assume that went well?
 @Aberts10, what's interesting for app-devs is qt 5.9, qt quick controls 2 and pyotherside
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/8?closed=1
 here's some more stuff
 but nothing crazy big
 Crap... Video is stuttering on Ut 16.04... Guess i should go for 15.04
 Weird... only twitch
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/HTVfx3Xi.png @neothethird is that good sign to switch to ubports's ubuntu-touch ?
 @arudy, i just installed & booted to canonical 's image
 oh, wow
 where did you find it?
 i really nothing more than following the guide i linked ;)
 haha, ok
 @arudy, that one :)
 well, it might work
 + i had the files in my cache folder
 but i can't promise anything
 i think i should back up it and send to someone if another  is blocked with pro5
 @arudy, any chance you could send them to me?
 @neothethird, of course !
 thanks
 then i'll archive them somewhere and put that on the docs in the experimental install section ;)
 thank you you, and all in here that keep ubuntu-touch alive  ❤
 @neothethird, 👌
 @arudy, well, you're one of us :)
 oh:)  \o/ huging :)
 @neothethird, https://askubuntu.com/questions/767323/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-meizu-pro-5-that-was-originally-with-android
 hmm
 not sure to trust a zip from google drive, but i don't see the download on meizu site
 Chinese manufacters
 don't really provide anything
 unless it's oneplus
 you can download factory flyme rom for all of their devices. heck, they even provide flyme roms for Nexus and other devices too
 @arudy, So after this, the ubports-installer still failed, so I followed this: … https://devices.ubports.com/#/turbo … And … …    … it works !!! … tadaaa (happy end, my heart is still running fast, too much emotions ^^)
 @neothethird ill PM the files i used, i just check if will reboot after the 1st boot :)
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/JPRcUuf5.png :D
 nice
 So, yep, it works after the reboot after the 1st boot setup, and since i followed that pdf, i even have the bootlogo with meizu+ubuntu on the boot :)
 ohmy, i don't understand holw could I be ok with that nexus4 last year :)
 halium tr not answer :(
 @arudy, i don't know. as soon as i found i couldn't stream music to my car with nexus 4, i immediately ordered a new phone
 hold on... from my understanding there is already a preview of anbox availible and instructions on how to install it somewhere?
 the preview is only on meizu pro 5 right now i think
 you can't install it on nexus 5
 That sucks.
 Is that because that device runs a newer kernel?
 i don't know exactly, but it was more something to do with qualcomm iirc
 Qualcomm?
 the SoC used in the phone
 nexus 5 is qualcomm snapdragon, and pro 5 is samsung exynos
 ah
 anbox has some bugs related to the GPU on qcom devices from what I know
 Though I wonder how that doesn't seem to affect SFOS' port of Anbox, Mir-related quirks maybe?
 anyway, anbox is not a priority at the moment
 pt-BR is?
 or is it fixed now? >~
 [Edit] or is it fixed now? >~>
 I think xenial is priority xd
 but what is the biggest bug in xenial
 probably libertine and freezes on nexus 5
 although I don't understand the necessity of having ro rootfs
 still
 Has anyone tried to bring up like 3.18 or 4.4 on n5?
 @K31j0, it's fixed
 @VeryOriginalUsername, lol no
 it's mainlined tho
 who needs 4.4 if you can have 4.16
 Mainline has no camera etc
 @K31j0, because security
 If you're dumb enough you can get malware even on an os with ro rootfs
 sigh
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0w2mW2QG.webp
 making the rootfs rw is not helpful, and arguing about it isn't going to change anything or help anyone
 at least you could push seamless secfixes for system packages
 @VeryOriginalUsername, Are you sure? I think the video4Linux driver is working on it (I might be wrong though)
 it's not like you're going to update kernel anyway
 we can do that now
 we don't need debs as a method for pushing security fixes for system
 @JBBgameich, Oh really
 Well... Anyways... I'm hoping until anbox support finally comes around that the browser can be improved and the twitch mobile web interface could be improved by twitch... would makes things so much better...
 system updates are already seemless and can just be deltas
 Also, is it possible to run audio in the background?
 @dohbee, Isn't it still patching the whole rootfs at once if you're talking about deltas?
 through recovery
 it's a reboot to recovery yes. but any security fixes need a reboot really anyway
 Will "reinstalling" UT install the default app without wiping my data and removing the apps I have installed?
 [Edit] Will "reinstalling" UT with the installer install the default app without wiping my data and removing the apps I have installed?
 Answer: no 😢
 Does anyone have a click of the Reminder app?
 15.04 or 16.04
 @amolith, It's preinstalled app?
 @UniversalSuperBox, 15.04
 Did you uninstall it?
 @dohbee, Yes
 @dohbee, Yes
 [Edit] Will "reinstalling" UT with the installer install the default apps without wiping my data and removing the apps I have installed?
 You can delete the broken symlink and reboot
 I can't give you the path though, because bar, but the thing is still installed, you just disabled for phablet user
 @dohbee, How does that fix it?
 @dohbee, bar?
 Drinking
 Oh lol
 I thought it was an acronym for something
 But there's a broken symlink in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/users/phablet or something like that
 building click
 Turns out I had the 15.04 image locally
 Lucky day
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/VVh7LmY3.null
 What is the purpouse of that naming convention?
 <domain>.<organization>.<package name>
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_domain_name_notation
 have any one good presentation (doc, ppt...) for Ubuntu Touch ? i want present it for student and others people