[16:28] <antaras_> i use ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx and after update i can't see the wireless icon but i am connected properly..   any ideas .. ?
[16:28] <JohnNapster> diverdude:  please look what you have in    /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:29] <gvo> JohnNapster: That's got nothing to do with his problem.
[16:29] <acidrain> any solutions?
[16:30] <dr_willis> acidrain,  what kind of network card do you have?
[16:30] <victor__> I downloaded the latest nvidia drivers for my gfx and linux 64bit. I checked the permission tab on the file to be able to run as a program. However I have to run it as root, how do I do that via GUI?
[16:30] <gvo> acidrain: wireless?
[16:30] <victor__> Or via line...
[16:30] <shades>
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> orated  "the fourth maintenance update to Ubuntu's 10.04 LTS release" https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-February/000155.html
[16:30] <acidrain> wired
[16:30] <ryannathans> how can I start xfce4 after forwarding X over a ssh
[16:31] <acidrain> gvo: its wired. network card is realtek, its been modded to run on an older driver that works
[16:31] <shades> hmm it seems I can't login as the user ftp because it's a dameon or something... when I try to load the users & groups GUI tool it lags real bad and hangs.. and i have to kill the process users-admin because it will not close when i click on the red x, what gives?
[16:31] <acidrain> gvo: also its been working for quite a while
[16:31] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  one normally run specific apps. not the whole desktop.
[16:31] <gvo> acidrain: lsmod and see that the driver was installed.
[16:31] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  is this on a local lan or over the internet?
[16:31] <victor__> I dont understand, I just installed ubuntu fresh and I never picked a root password, how am I supposed to login as root to install the nvidia.run package?
[16:32] <ryannathans> dr_willis: lan
[16:32] <victor__> su ./file ?
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> victor__  you don't login as root
[16:32] <ryannathans> ryannathans@hitech:~$ xclock
[16:32] <ryannathans> Error: Can't open display:
[16:32] <gvo> victor__: sudo
[16:32] <acidrain> gvo: i did lsmod, but i dont see anything mentioning the driver.
[16:32] <victor__> "You appear to be running an Xserver, please exit X before installing"
[16:32] <gvo> victor__: the password it askes for is yours not root's
[16:32] <acidrain> gvo: but like i said, its been installed for MONTHS. and all of a sudden its gone?
[16:32] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  if you need a 'whole' remote desktop on the local box. you could use xdmcp, or vnc, or rdp,  depending on how you want to 'work'  or just run the specific apps you need and let them appear on the local box.
[16:32] <victor__> What does that mean? :P
[16:33] <ryannathans> dr_willis: how can I just run one app?
[16:33] <quazimodo> why does ubuntu insist I use shitty video players?
[16:33] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  if you can see both monitors of both pc's you could use synergy to share the keyboard.
[16:33] <ryannathans> dr_willis: I'm getting "Error: Can
[16:33] <gvo> victor__: You become root using sugo.
[16:33] <quazimodo> since ive been using ubuntu it has shipped with the shittiest media players
[16:33] <victor__> Successfully ran it with the sudo command now and that prompted
[16:33] <gvo> sudo
[16:33] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  ssh -X remote    run the app.
[16:33] <velko> ryannathans, check that on the server you enabled xforwarding and that you connect with "ssh -X"
[16:33] <quazimodo> why not ship with mplayer and save everyones time?
[16:33] <dr_willis> or was it -x   i forget... :)
[16:33] <dr_willis> !ssh | ryannathans
[16:33] <ryannathans> dr_willis: I'm getting
[16:33] <ryannathans> Error: Can't open display:
[16:33] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  you dident use -X then is my first gues
[16:33] <ryannathans> dr_willis: i'm using putty
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> quazimodo  please join #insultubuntu
[16:33] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  on windows? or linux?
[16:34] <victor__>  " ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[16:34] <victor__>          installing." when running sudo ./file
[16:34] <victor__> is X the GUI?
[16:34] <ryannathans> windows, I ticked forwarding X11 and typed in localhost:2 after vnc4server -geometry 1440x900 on the localhost:2
[16:34] <acidrain> my main concern is why has linux all of a sudden disregarded my network configurations after months of having them?
[16:34] <quazimodo> MonkeyDust: except im not insluting ubuntu, i love ubuntu, i dont understand how all these great things come together and include crappy parole
[16:34] <velko> victor__, yes
[16:34] <gvo> acidrain: do you know what module is your driver?
[16:34] <dr_willis> victor__,  yes.. what are you trying to do exactly?
[16:34] <Church> it's imho better/more universal to use -Y instead of -X for x11 forwarding via ssh
[16:34] <victor__> Installing the most recent appriopriate nvidia drivers
[16:34] <victor__> Since the generic ones did not support opengl
[16:34] <victor__> for my card, atleast
[16:34] <dr_willis> -Y i think is perfered on a local lan.
[16:34] <victor__> (taken from nvidia.com)
[16:35] <acidrain> gvo: hang on, let me find out where it was installed to,
[16:35] <dr_willis> victor__,  you may want to look for some guides on askubuntu.com about using the latest.
[16:35] <diverdude> is it possible to mount usb sticks in recovery mode?
[16:35] <Church> had few java crapish gui apps (eg. for managing few disk arrays) that had their problems with -X but worked fine with -X
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> quazimodo  VLC does/plays about everything
[16:35] <velko> victor__, you have to switch to a virual terminal with ctrl+alt+f1, login as your user, stop x "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop" and run your script
[16:35] <dr_willis> diverdude,  yes. use the proper mount command.
[16:35] <gvo> acidrain: Did you upgrade your kernel recently?
[16:35] <orated> MonkeyDust: Thanks. Secondly, do you know if laptop users should install desktop or netbook version? 'coz http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent is not working
[16:35] <victor__> Oh.. allright velko, thanks. i'll double check askubuntu.com dr_willis :)
[16:35] <acidrain> gvo: RTL8168/8111
[16:35] <Church> err, fine with -Y that is.
[16:36] <acidrain> gvo: i did do a system update, but why would that mess with what i have done?
[16:36] <diverdude> dr_willis: which one is that?
[16:36] <dr_willis> victor__,  ive seen way to many people have issues when trying the 'latest' nvidia driver installer.
[16:36] <Holden> My cpu doesn't support virtualization. I tried to boot lucid iso...can someone confirm me that qemu is much slower than virtualbox? Or am I doing something wrong?
[16:36] <dr_willis> diverdude,  totally depens on yoru system.  sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/MAKEADIR
[16:36] <dr_willis> !mount | diverdude
[16:36] <ryannathans> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[16:36] <gvo> acidrain: well if you installed a new kernel then you'll have to reins6tall the modules (drivers) for that card.
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> orated  use desktop => netbook != laptop
[16:36] <diverdude> dr_willis: yes exactly..my problem is to find out what XX is in /dev/sdXX
[16:36] <dr_willis> ryannathans,   you are using putty under windows? or linux?
[16:37] <ryannathans> dr_willis: i said windows
[16:37] <gvo> dr_willis: his usb stick isn't being detected.
[16:37] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  then you needt o have an actual X server running on the box. for the apps to appear on. Or just use VNC
[16:37] <shades> hmmm
[16:37] <gvo> dr_willis no /dev/sd?  anything.
[16:37] <shades> i made a new user but I can't upload files as this user, i'm getting a permission denied error..
[16:37] <diverdude> dr_willis: ?
[16:38] <gvo> dr_willis other than swap and his root partion.
[16:38] <quazimodo> MonkeyDust: yeah vlc is fine, parole and before that totem were the issues
[16:38] <dr_willis> gvo,  dmesg soon after he plugs it in.. if not seen.. its very likely a dead usb. or dead port.
[16:38] <ryannathans> dr_willis: I have an x server running on localhost:2 started by vnc4server -geometry 1440x900
[16:38] <gvo> dr_willis: we've already been there.
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> quazimodo  "if everything else fails, join #ubuntu" :)
[16:38] <gvo> dr_willis it's not showing up in dmesg.
[16:38] <ryannathans> dr_willis: if I run x on this computer, who's processor and whose gpu is used?
[16:38] <diverdude> funny thing is that when i plug it in., 3 lines appear in the terminal...so its not totally dead
[16:39] <diverdude> and the USB stick works on other machines
[16:39] <shades> does anyone have any idea?
[16:39] <gvo> diverdude what three lines?
[16:40] <locsmif> dr_willis: the hdd is fine..
[16:40] <diverdude> 3091.833176 usb 3-2:new high speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[16:40] <diverdude> and then
[16:41] <victor___> If shift+ctrl +1 switched to virtual terminal, how do i switch back? :P
[16:41] <ryannathans> dr_willis: if I run x on this computer, who's processor and whose gpu is used?
[16:41] <diverdude> 3091.833176 xhci_hcd 0000:0e:00.0: WARN: short transfer on control ep
[16:41] <diverdude> four of those lines
[16:42] <Church> diverdude: you are not typing that all, aren't you? :) you know that you can select text in xterm/gnome terminal/whatever alike and paste it in irc client?
[16:42] <gvo> victor___: ALT-f7
[16:42] <victor___> thanks
[16:42] <diverdude> Church: yes i am
[16:42] <gvo> victor___ maybe
[16:42] <victor__> phew :D
[16:42] <diverdude> Church: you know that this is a crashed computer without network?? so no i cannot paste it
[16:42] <Church> oh, i didn't.
[16:43]  * Church noticed only latest bit about usb key
[16:43] <gvo> Church I think he has two computers
[16:43] <diverdude> yes i have
[16:43] <victor__> velko: I couldnt stop it like that :/ ( sudo /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop) that is
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  if you have more than one pc in the same network, you can ssh to the "bad" pc and use pastebin
[16:43] <gvo> I have to go.  diverdude good luck.
[16:43] <victor__> said command not found*
[16:44] <diverdude> computer is crashed because of bad driver support for graphic drivers...so i wanted to try and copy a Xorg.conf using USB key...but ofc. i also cannot mount USB
[16:44] <diverdude> arrrrg
[16:44] <gvo> MonkeyDust: The badk computer has no network.
[16:44] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  both.
[16:44] <gvo> bad
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  not even a local network?
[16:44] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  gpu/local cpu to display the app. remote to do the apps main processing
[16:44] <diverdude> MonkeyDust: no its in recoverymode.....i dont think there is any network...ifconfig returns nothing
[16:44] <tominglis> hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04, and have run into a dependency problem when dist-upgrading my installation - here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/VKVXVzcx - does anyone know what i can do to fix this?
[16:44] <Church> diverdude: if it's not getting mounted automatically, from kernel log (eg. via command 'dmesg') you can see what device is assigned to that key (eg. /dev/sdc or alike), type fdisk -l /dev/sdc to list partitions on it and try mount it directly on some mountpoint
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> tominglis  #ubuntu+1
[16:45] <tominglis> thanks
[16:45] <ryannathans> dr_willis: so what is being used to say, render a 3d app
[16:45] <Pickleface> hi, I recetnly started using the button on my computer to shut my computer down
[16:45] <Church> eg. mkdir /tmp/usb ; mount /dev/sdc1 /tmp/usb
[16:45] <Pickleface> and now it takes like 20-30 mins to just boot up?
[16:46] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  the local GPU/CPU would be doing most of the work.
[16:46] <Pickleface> I only have linux on my computer btw
[16:46] <paul_uk> anyone here have experience with here-docs?  How do you treat $hello as a string rather than a variable ?
[16:46] <acidrain> gvo: where do i install the driver modules again? i just refound the driver
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> paul_uk  in bash?
[16:46] <paul_uk> MonkeyDust, yeah
[16:47] <nomihc> paul_uk
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> paul_uk  there the #bash channel
[16:47] <nomihc> \$hello
[16:47] <victor__> Why can't i shutdown X? Fresh desktop install .10 I tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and gdm3 stop?
[16:47] <paul_uk> nomihc, thanks
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> paul_uk  there's the #bash channel
[16:47] <Church> Pickleface: sounds like bootup process is waiting for something to complete/timeout. If you have that gui with progressbar thingie on boot, you can press 'esc' to switch to more verbose text mode and see what actually is slowing down things
[16:47] <victor__> even tried service gdm3 stop and invoke-rc.d gdm3 stop
[16:48] <Pickleface> Church: I get like 4 options on bootup now ? If I just leave it for a while it boots up by itself?
[16:48] <wiherek> hi. I chose the wrong program for a file association in chromium and now cant change it. I disabled it in gconf-editor and now cant even see it there. also when I click on a link to that file, it doesnt open
[16:48] <wiherek> I am talking about magnet links for bit torrent
[16:48] <Church> Pickleface: i don't mean options in bootloader, but later on, when booting
[16:49] <dr_willis> victor__,  what release of ubuntu are you using?
[16:49] <Church> Pickleface: .. i'm veeery distantly guessing from powerbutton mention that you are not shutting down, but simply powering off, which might be bad in that sense, that filesystems need checking on boot, so if very big filesystems, sometimes it might take long time
[16:49] <victor__> dr_willis,  11.10 desktop x64
[16:49] <nomihc> victor__, /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[16:49] <dr_willis> victor__,  its using lightdm  is the reason. :) not gdm
[16:49] <victor__> aha, thanks :)
[16:50] <GASSYPOOTS> how do I change back to Windows 7 without the original installation disc by using ubuntu
[16:50] <ryannathans> grub
[16:50] <ryannathans> unless you deleted windows when installing
[16:51] <Pickleface> Church: yeah powering off
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> GASSYPOOTS  reboot and choose W7 in the menu
[16:51] <Pickleface> Church: how do I fix it ?.......
[16:51] <ryannathans> dr_willis: just installed an x server for windows, about to try again'
[16:51] <dig> hello :) How can i check when ubuntu was installed on my PC?
[16:51] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  oh? which one?
[16:52] <root_> 有没有说中文的？
[16:52] <dr_willis> dig,  never really noticed a 'date of install' file. :)
[16:52] <ryannathans> dr_willis: Xming
[16:52] <ryannathans> http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
[16:52] <GASSYPOOTS> why does grub appear when i start  it up
[16:52] <oCean> !cn | root_
[16:52] <Church> Pickleface: for more speedy access filesystems cache things in ram and only ocasionally sync changes to filesystem. hence on normal shutting down changes get properly synced to disk and filesystems unmounted. <- just use normal shutdown from menu/whatever.
[16:52] <GASSYPOOTS> doesnt
[16:52] <root_> 好 谢谢
[16:52] <dr_willis> ryannathans,  xming works very well. but it can be a bit confuseing to someone thats never used ssh/X/Xforwarding. but its wizard works well.
[16:52] <Church> Pickleface: .. of course if filesystem check was the reason for slow boot.
[16:52] <ex0> or use... sudo init 0
[16:52] <dlentz> GASSYPOOTS, hold shift when you start
[16:53] <dig> dr_willis: but there are so many logs and things... I'd be dissapointed if it can't be checked :)
[16:53] <dr_willis> tap the shift key like a  tapdancer on caffine. :)
[16:53] <ryannathans> dr_willis: I'm a hardened ssh user. Never played with a gui though
[16:53] <GASSYPOOTS> that all?
[16:53] <dlentz> dig, it's in bug reports, so there must be a log somewhere
[16:53] <Pickleface> Church: oh..okay so how do I fix it ?......
[16:53] <dr_willis> GASSYPOOTS,  if grub menu is hidden.. shift key makes it show
[16:53] <dig> dlentz: yup i saw it there too but i don't want to file a bug just to see it :)
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> dig  type ls -l /boot => the date is the installation date
[16:54] <acidrain> gvo: thx for help. i fixed it
[16:54] <Sa7an> hi guys !
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> dig  type ls -l /boot/grub => the date is the installation date
[16:55] <eQuiNoX__> hi guys, could someone help me compile this right? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/563820/
[16:56] <Church> Pickleface: i already told you. you should 1st confirm if that was the case, eg. if on boot you have for very long time 'checking filesystem blablabla', then probably that's the reason. and simply use normal shutdown to prevent such problems in future instead of pressing power button.
[16:56] <victor__> Hmm and now to start it? :P sudo /etc/init.d/lightgdm start ?
[16:56] <Pickleface> Church: kk
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> eQuiNoX__  in human language, please?
[16:56] <oCean> MonkeyDust: dig, ls -l /boot/grub will just show contents of grub directory, that's definitely not install date (not for me at least) If I run ls -al /etc/issue for example I think that's the date I actually installed this laptop
[16:56] <Church> Pickleface: i'm guessing that shutdown command shouldn't be that hard to find in whatever GUI desktop environment you use menus.
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> dig  take oCean 's advice, it's more accurate
[16:57] <eQuiNoX__> MonkeyDust: um, sorry. i tried compiling the code snippet in the link, with a command that ive shown in the link; i think im doing the linking part wrong. could someone check that out?
[16:57] <GASSYPOOTS> uhh shift doesnt make boot menu show up
[16:58] <Pickleface> Church: okay , thanks
[16:58] <trisquel> hi all.Is there a way to spoof the mac address of the network card in mini-ubuntu.iso  install 11.10.there is no ifconfig command
[16:59] <Phopsy> Howdy all. I just upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and, lo and behold, my sound has died. Can anyone offer some assistance?
[16:59] <velko> eQuiNoX__, i guess you have to link to sqlite3 not just sqlite
[16:59] <GASSYPOOTS> so any other way to make win 7 / ubuntu 11.10b menu show
[16:59] <victor__> I managed to install the drivers after shutting down X. But how do I start it again? (using desktop 11.10 amd64) -    sudo /etc/init.d/lightdmp start ?
[16:59] <jwtiyar> how i can change fonts in ubuntu like Desktop,Apps ?
[16:59] <dr_willis> GASSYPOOTS,  so does the sytem boot to linux? or windows?
[16:59] <GASSYPOOTS> linux
[17:00] <dr_willis> GASSYPOOTS,  edit your /etc/default/grub file and have it set to always show the menu. rerun sudo-update-grub also.
[17:00] <eQuiNoX__> velko: the sqlite related libraries i have are http://paste.pocoo.org/show/563822/
[17:00] <jwtiyar> GASSYPOOTS, if u have problem with showing the grub menu install Boot0repair
[17:00] <dig> MonkeyDust: it showed january 27th but i installed ubuntu a few days ago :) ls -l /boot isn't that bad. Just search for the first file in there and it should be it
[17:00] <velko> eQuiNoX__, and you don't need the /usr/include and /usr/lib parts
[17:00] <dr_willis> GASSYPOOTS,  its also possible its just not seeing the windows install. 'sudo update-grub' Might show windows/detect it. and fix the hidden menu issue
[17:01] <dr_willis> for some annoying reason - if ubuntu is the only os installed. the default is to hide the grub menu.
[17:01] <trisquel> there is only ntcfg command
[17:01] <dr_willis> !grub2
[17:01] <velko> eQuiNoX__, so try with "gcc -Wall -lsqlite3 -o z"
[17:01] <superdave321> I "upgraded" to ubuntu studio from vanilla using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu How can I get the UI back while keeping the apps and plugins?
[17:01] <eQuiNoX__> velko: yyup checked that out, it gives me "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsqlite3"
[17:01] <trisquel> !netcfg
[17:01] <jwtiyar> how i can change fonts in ubuntu ?
[17:02] <benn> how to access ubuntu files in windoees?
[17:02] <trisquel> !netinstall
[17:02] <dr_willis> jwtiyar,  what version of ubuntu you using?
[17:02] <trisquel> !install
[17:02] <velko> eQuiNoX__, have you installed the -dev package of sqlite?
[17:02] <Sa7an> hackers?
[17:02] <dr_willis> Sa7an,  actual support question
[17:02] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, 11.10
[17:02] <eQuiNoX__> velko: yes
[17:02] <benn> how to access ubuntu files in windows?*
[17:02] <eQuiNoX__> velko: lemme recheck anyhow
[17:02] <velko> eQuiNoX__, libsqlite3-dev ?
[17:02] <Amdpc> Hi..I have an iMac , and I want to install Ubuntu in it..Is there any special version of ubuntu for macs ?
[17:02] <jwtiyar> benn, instal ext2explorer
[17:02] <dr_willis> jwtiyar,  you can use the gnome-tweak tool to set some font settings i recall
[17:02] <victor__> Am I allowed to repeat my question after approx 5 minutes? :P
[17:03] <victor__> !rules
[17:03] <benn> jwtiyar ok
[17:03] <mneptok> !repeat > victor__
[17:03] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, im on unity , there is no option in original?
[17:03] <eQuiNoX__> velko: damn yeah thats the issue, thanks for your time
[17:04] <ryannathans> works!!
[17:04] <victor__> If I only knew howto switch tabs in irssi....
[17:04] <victor__> Always use x-chat... :P
[17:04] <POVaddct> victor__: esc-NUMBER
[17:04] <bambanx> how i can fix the grub? i have windows and linux but i can boot for windows :/
[17:04] <dr_willis> jwtiyar,  not that i know of.
[17:04] <POVaddct> victor__: or alt-NUMBER
[17:04] <ryannathans> lol, I opened a terminal from my ssh on X
[17:04] <jwtiyar> bambanx, install boot repair
[17:04] <Phopsy> Can anyone offer some support regarding ALSA producing no sound after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?
[17:04] <victor__> Ah thanks :)
[17:04] <jwtiyar> !grub > bambanx
[17:05] <dr_willis> bambanx,  what is it doing exactly? does it boot to linux at all?
[17:05] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, its not good , where i can get gnome-tweak ?
[17:05] <victor__> Well I can rephrase the question.. How do I start X running 11.10 ubuntu? is it sudo /etc/init.d/lightgdm start?
[17:05] <victor__> Thanks, btw POVaddct.
[17:05] <theadmin> victor__: sudo service lightdm start
[17:05] <GASSYPOOTS> boot is booted :D
[17:06] <victor__> thanks.
[17:06] <dr_willis> jwtiyar,  its in the repos
[17:06] <bambanx> dr_willis, i wanna able to boot to windows too only i can see on the boot linux
[17:06] <Justas> Hello everybody.
[17:06] <mintman> ;)
[17:07] <jwtiyar> bambanx, becuase u lost the grub
[17:07] <victor__> "Disconnected from Plymouth" is a bad thing, right?
[17:07] <dr_willis> bambanx,  rerun 'sudo update-grub' and see if it adds windows. if not you may need to add a custome entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom for your wundiows setup
[17:07] <dr_willis> victor__,  not really.
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> bambanx  you can add the Windows chainloader to the grub menu
[17:07] <victor__> Well I cant start the GUI anymore, past the drivers, however terminal mode works fine
[17:07] <triplc> hi all
[17:07] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, boot-repair works great with this
[17:07] <victor__> As im doing this right now atleast
[17:07] <Solvent> Anyone help a complete noob? Have no mouse/keyboard input after booting from install CD
[17:07] <bambanx> update-grub
[17:07] <bambanx> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[17:07] <bambanx> Searching for default file ... Generating /boot/grub/default file and setting the default boot entry to 0
[17:07] <bambanx> entry not specified.
[17:07] <FloodBot1> bambanx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <dr_willis> jwtiyar,  cant say ive ever noticed that do more then reinstall grub..
[17:08] <victor__> So I assume it was the drivers, even though i didnt use the most recent, followed another users instructons on ask.ubuntu, because he warned of the most recent in the installer
[17:08] <mintman_> dr_willis: Is it legal to run to sessions of irc at the same time??
[17:08] <superdave321> I "upgraded" to ubuntu studio from vanilla using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu How can I get the UI back while keeping the apps and plugins?
[17:08] <triplc> how to install UNITY to Ubuntu 10.04 ? I am still using the LTS version and do not want to upgrade the whole system. But I'd like to use Unity. I find with Google but not found.
[17:08] <bambanx> mintman, you are legal or ilegal?
[17:08] <victor__> At first I thought it was related to not statrting the service, but it auto starts and sudo service lighdm start takes me to the boot parameters/check routine anyway so
[17:08] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, i had this problem boot repair fixed it after accessing through Live-cd
[17:09] <trisquel> I write in /etc/network/intefaces  hwaddress ether my:mac:add:re:ss , also I specify there the ip address, network mask, and the gateway.However I do not know how to restart the network interface,there is no /etc/init.d/networking  so i can excute a restart
[17:09] <AcidRain> The program 'god' is currently not installed.  To run 'god' please ask your administrator to install the package 'god'
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> bambanx  search "chainloader" on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:09] <dr_willis> !info god
[17:09] <Justas> Can anyone help me with WiFi issues, please. I installed Ubuntu 11.10 yesterday on a Dell Vostro 1510 laptop, and it does not recognise the wireless adapter. I cannot download any packages since thats the only way I can connect, no possibility to access the router with a wired connection.
[17:09] <bambanx> ok MonkeyDust ty
[17:09] <mintman_> bambanx: logged into ubuntu with two different irc chat displays one is mintman the other got me as mintman_
[17:10] <dr_willis> mintman,  makes sence dosent it.. :)
[17:10] <mintman_> no dont need to sessions to same chatroom
[17:10] <dr_willis> mintman_,  if you want to get rid of one. close the other chat client.
[17:10] <velko> trisquel, have you installed netbase?
[17:10] <reduc> anyone know how to setup console cable in linux
[17:10] <oCean> mintman_: you cannot have 2 same nicks in one session. For further help with irc/Freenode network, /join #freenode channel
[17:11] <trisquel> velko: I can not install anything.It's a netboot install
[17:11] <trisquel> I need to set up the mac address first so i can get connected to the net
[17:11] <dr_willis> I have about 4 irc clients all connected to my 'znc' server thats connected here. :) so you just see me in here oncd.
[17:11] <mintman_> oCean: just give me the low down on reason why
[17:11] <velko> trisquel, because this script is installed by this package. if the package has not been installed you cannot bring the iface up
[17:11] <oCean> mintman_: this is not the correct channel, help is in #freenode
[17:11] <dr_willis> mintman_: you cannot have 2 same nicks in one session. <- reason why.
[17:11] <reduc> anyone know how to setup a router in linux ( w console cable)
[17:12] <mintman_> dr_willis: thank u
[17:12] <dr_willis> reduc,  'console cable' meaning what exactly?
[17:12] <reduc> rgb222
[17:12] <superdave321> I "upgraded" to ubuntu studio from vanilla using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu How can I get the UI back while keeping the apps and plugins?
[17:14] <Justas> Can anyone help me with WiFi issues, please. I installed Ubuntu 11.10 yesterday on a Dell Vostro 1510 laptop, and it does not recognise the wireless adapter. I cannot download any packages since thats the only way I can connect, no possibility to access the router with a wired connection.
[17:14] <saikatdce> use any of the usb internet and install the drivers
[17:15] <saikatdce> or download it in other PC and use it.
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> |wifi| Justas start here
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> !wifi| Justas start here
[17:15] <francocn> ciao
[17:16] <Justas> Thanks
[17:16] <victor__> Well after updating my NVIDIA drivers for openGL support and now rebooting the computer. I boot up, see the purpleish Ubuntu loading screen for a while. Then it jumps to the boot checklist, and the last 4 lines at the bottom says "mountall plymouth disconnected *3 + plymouth blabla failed" any clues?
[17:16] <dr_willis> superdave321,  what gui are you refering to?
[17:17] <victor__> And thats where i am at right now, virtual terminal works fine, but whenever i switch to ALt+f7 thats where i end up
[17:17] <dr_willis> reduc,  you are refering to 'serial' cable?
[17:17] <scighera> !list
[17:17] <dr_willis> victor__,  try 'startx' and see if any errors appear
[17:17] <superdave321> Ubuntu vanilla vs whatever Ubuntu studio uses...
[17:17] <scighera> sorrry
[17:18] <dr_willis> superdave321,  look on the sessions list of the login screen perhaps? i thought they both used Unity.
[17:18] <victor__> Fatal error, no devices found, and therefor no screens found.... :P
[17:18] <victor__> winning!
[17:18] <superdave321> dr_wills I don't have the hardware necessary for unity...
[17:18] <victor__> Can I revert? Because the nvidia installer made a backup of the x.conf?
[17:19] <dr_willis> superdave321,   but unity is what ubuntu uses by default
[17:19] <dr_willis> victor__,  the xorg.conf is the least of your worries.. if the nvidia's .run installer failed to work.. theres really not a lot i know of to do.
[17:19] <bambanx> i am back with double boot working MonkeyDust thanks
[17:20] <victor__> ok, reinstalling system then...
[17:20] <victor__> its only an hour old anyway
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> !yay| bambanx
[17:20] <superdave321> dr_wills: I've just been using the desktop ui.
[17:20] <victor__> thanks dr_willis
[17:20] <dr_willis> victor__,  what is your video card?
[17:20] <bambanx> =)
[17:20] <victor__> Nvidia geforce m540
[17:21] <dr_willis> victor__,  you may want to check askubuntu.com for suggestsions. they may know a way to get them going.
[17:22] <victor__> Thats the suggestion I followed :( ahwell
[17:22] <salmiak> it should be possible to stop use the propritary graphics driver and go back to the default one from command line, right?
[17:22] <victor__> one of them atleast, I'll bbl, thanks again.
[17:22] <dr_willis> salmiak,  should be. but i never use  the .run installer.. so no idea how to remove them
[17:22] <salmiak> ok
[17:22] <abe> where i can get ubuntu 12.04 free??
[17:23] <Xeneth> abe: All Ubuntu is free
[17:23] <dr_willis> abe,  download it.
[17:23] <sacarlson> abe: but I will give you a discount
[17:23] <DJones> abe: Just go to the ubuntu website and download the beta test version, but remember its still being developed so there may be bugs
[17:24] <mintman_> oh
[17:24] <dlentz> "victor__" is trying to install nvidia drivers on an optimus system. he needs bumblebee/ironhide
[17:24] <dr_willis> Optimus system? GOOD luck... :)
[17:25] <abe> my ubuntu 11.04 panel is lost, how can i fixed ???
[17:26] <JohnNapster> abe wich panel?
[17:26] <abe> all panel in my ubuntu
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> abe  http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[17:26] <dr_willis> gotta run.. bbl
[17:26] <under> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 . How can I update repositories?
[17:27] <abe> i will try it
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> under  sudo apt-get updtae
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> under  sudo apt-get update*
[17:27] <abe> sudo apt-get update
[17:27] <abe> under : sudo apt-get update
[17:28] <salmiak> What is a Optimus system? sounds scary...
[17:28] <mintman_> Shojo: hello
[17:28] <under> I did apt-get update but I see Ubuntu installs old version of Eclipse. Why?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> salmiak  it's a Transformer
[17:28] <abe> mintman hello
[17:28] <jvox> #
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> salmiak  i guess "optimus" just mean "the best"
[17:30] <Shojo> hi mintman_
[17:30] <suni_087> hi
[17:30] <dlentz> optimus = intel and nvidia gpu, which ends up being worse than just an nvidia gpu on linux
[17:30] <suni_087> hi
[17:31] <suni_087> i am getting error message "Permission denied"
[17:31] <Vaela> increase your permission?
[17:31] <Vaela> :D
[17:31] <salmiak> aha. ok. I try to avoid intel though so I will proabably never get any of those then.
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> suni_087  what are you trying to do?
[17:32] <ROBOT1024> goodnight
[17:32] <velko_> under, doing "apt-get update" wont install the latest software version of whatever program you like but the latest version which is *in the ubuntu repository*
[17:32] <suni_087> i am getting error message "Permission denied"....can anyone help me out????....installing ubuntu 11.10 through wubi
[17:32] <salmiak> nightynight ROBOT1024 :-)
[17:32] <reduc> anyone know how to setup a router in linux ( w console cable)?
[17:32] <Xirrin1> suni_087: Are you an administrator?
[17:32] <under> velko_: in the latest ubuntu repository?
[17:33] <suni_087> Xirrin1:yes...
[17:33] <abe> how to install vga driver intel motherboard?
[17:33] <sacarlson> suni_087:  I would vote not using wubi, just setup dual boot with usb flash drive or other
[17:33] <salmiak> suni_087: aha so you get it while you are installing??
[17:33] <velko_> under, no. there is no such thing as "latest" ubuntu repository. in the "current" repository. the repository you selected to install from
[17:33] <suni_087> salmaik:yup...almost at 98% :(
[17:34] <Vaela> suni_087: use liveCD?
[17:34] <suni_087> thx <sacarlson>
[17:34] <Xirrin1> reduc: Which type of router? A standard home router, or enterprise/Cisco router?
[17:34] <under> so what I do to install the latest eclipse avoiding download the setup from its web site?
[17:34] <suni_087> @Vaela:havnt tried that out
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> suni_087  live cd or usb is the "normal" way to install
 any solution???
[17:35] <Vaela> probably the better way, too.
[17:35] <JohnNapster> MonkeyDust: i found what i was looking for
[17:35] <velko_> under, maybe - i don't know. this action is not supported though. another option would be to find prepackaged version for ubuntu - from some ppa. this is also not supported. so if you want the latest and greatest, you are on your own
[17:35] <under> okay.
[17:36] <JohnNapster> MonkeyDust: it's the gnome-control-center package
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> JohnNapster  nice, but what was it again? share it with the channel, for future reference
[17:36] <suni_087> MonkeyDust: thx..would try that out
[17:36] <Phopsy> Can anyone offer some support regarding ALSA producing no sound after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?
[17:36] <salmiak> suni_087: I haven't tried with wubi myself so I don't know. but I assume there is something with the windows bootmenu that prevents ubuntu to add itself there.
[17:36] <antaras> i use ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx and after update i can't see the wireless icon but i am connected properly..   any ideas .. ?
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Phopsy  in a terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM, go there and press M
[17:36] <JohnNapster> anyone on ubuntu preecise beta 1 running unity desktop type in the Terminal   gnome-control-center info
[17:37] <velko_> antaras, is the package "network-manager-gnome" installed?
[17:37] <Phopsy> MonkeyDust: Afraid I've already tried all that. I thought it might be a PulseAudio issue, so uninstalled that but still no joy.
[17:37] <antaras> velko_, how i can see ??
[17:37] <JohnNapster> anyone on ubuntu precise beta1 running unity desktop type in the Terminal   gnome-control-center info   and notice that it says  ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:38] <JohnNapster> not Ubuntu!
[17:38] <velko_> antaras, how do you install software? with synaptic? then use synaptic to check this
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> JohnNapster  wrong channel, tell that in #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <antaras> ok .. its installed
[17:38] <JohnNapster> also, the "ubuntu" text is higher than the 12.04 LTS text    wtf?
[17:39] <velko_> antaras, and what happens when you type "nm-applet" in the command line?
[17:39] <Phopsy> MonkeyDust: Yes, it was a PulseAudio problem. Reinstalling PA *apparently* resolved the problem. Utterly bizarre. By the way, is your username taken from the TV programme?
[17:39] <velko_> antaras, in gnome-terminal for example
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> Phopsy  glad someone knows it :)
[17:39] <antaras> velko_,  ** (nm-applet:6907): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[17:39] <Phopsy> MonkeyDust: It'
[17:40] <Phopsy> MonkeyDust: It's been an *awful* long time since I watched it, but it was utterly brilliant. Nice to have a reminder.
[17:41] <abe> apakah ada orang indonesia di sini ??
[17:41] <JohnNapster> is unity part of gnome?
[17:41] <antaras> velko_,  yes in terminal... A process of nm-applet is already running  ** (nm-applet:6907): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> JohnNapster  unity = gnome3 with compiz
[17:41] <velko_> antaras, so you have to find out why this connection fails. because nm-applet is the graphical representation of your connection
[17:41] <velko_> antaras, but you don't see your connection still?
[17:42] <JohnNapster> i see
[17:42] <JohnNapster> thanks
[17:42] <Siarom> Files HEN HUD and are not a bit redundant?
[17:42] <antaras> velko_, no i cant see the wireless icon
[17:42] <Siarom> HEN Files and HUD are not a bit redundant?
[17:42] <JohnNapster> compiz is a merge of two projects: fusion and ???
[17:43] <JohnNapster> or is it the other way round
[17:43] <JohnNapster> fusion is compiz + someting else
[17:43] <JohnNapster> can't remember
[17:43] <salmiak> JohnNapster: beryl?
[17:43] <JohnNapster> yeah
[17:43] <JohnNapster> thanks
[17:43] <JohnNapster> so fusion is compiz+beryl
[17:44] <JohnNapster> or is compiz = fusion+berl  ?
[17:44] <antaras> velko_,  what can i do ??
[17:45] <iceroot> JohnNapster: compiz fusion = compiz + beryl
[17:45] <JohnNapster> ah
[17:45] <JohnNapster> right
[17:46] <JohnNapster> we now have compiz... is that the old compiz we knew and love?
[17:46] <irrumat0r> Is it recommended to install Python 2.7.2 on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (default one it comes with is Python 2.6.5), or will that break stuff?
[17:47] <salmiak> JohnNapster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz says  "2007 merge of the Compiz and Beryl (a fork of Compiz) communities results in "Compiz-core" (only core functionality of compiz and base plugins) and "Compiz Fusion" (the plugins, decorators, settings tools etc)"
[17:47] <velko_> antaras, no ideas. kill nm-applet and start it again?
[17:48] <dlentz> irrumat0r, do you need python 2.7 for some program?
[17:48] <brianp1992> can someone help me setup an ftp file server?
[17:49] <antaras> velko_,  ok man .. thanx  :)
[17:49] <salmiak> JohnNapster: on the other hand it says that "2009 a conference call was held between developers of Compiz, Compiz++, NOMAD and Compiz Fusion where it was decided to merge the projects together into a unified project, simply named Compiz"... I don't know much about love though.. :-)
[17:50] <JohnNapster> so is compiz the latest and greatest compositing window manager?
[17:50] <JohnNapster> for the X windowing system
[17:50] <brianp1992> can someone help me setup an ftp file server?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> JohnNapster  to me: no, i don't like compiz
[17:50] <JohnNapster> why?
[17:50] <JohnNapster> you like xfce better?
[17:51] <Darxus> Last night I used update-manager to upgrade from natty to oneric.  Today when I run "aptitude -f install" I get this:  http://www.chaosreigns.com/tmp/brokenpackages.txt  How do I resolve this mess?  Attempting to remove qdbus doesn't help, it's not installed.  (I've been using debian/ubuntu for probably about 10 years.)
[17:51] <salmiak> I don't use compositing at all so about greatest.... well I don't know....... :-D
[17:51] <AcidRain> does anyone know how to test if my server will relay emails from anyone?
[17:51] <AcidRain> i want users to be registered before it relays
[17:52] <JohnNapster> you don't like fancy stuff on your screen then :)
[17:52] <Darxus> AcidRain: Google search for open relay test?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> JohnNapster  i don't
[17:53] <JohnNapster> so if i were to remove compiz from my system... would i be left with a bare console?
[17:53] <theadmin> JohnNapster: Nah, just no window borders
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> JohnNapster  you could use gnome fallback
[17:54] <JohnNapster> gnome-fallback  ?
[17:54] <salmiak> JohnNapster: as little fancy and animations as possible is what I prefer yes. the operatingsystem/desktopenvironment/windowmanager should be as little eye-catching as possible. I did like compiz zoom-function though.... I haven't found an ok non-compiz desktopzoom.
[17:55] <JohnNapster> isn't xfce another windowind manager?
[17:55] <AcidRain> wow
[17:55] <irrumat0r> dlentz: well, a lot of stuff I'm downloading use modules that become part of the standard library as of 2.7.2 which aren't there in 2.6.5, and that's the lastest version of Python 2 so...
[17:55] <AcidRain> i just setup a mail server in about 45 seconds...
[17:55] <antaras> velko_,  are you here ??
[17:56] <AcidRain> with no relay access
[17:56] <velko_> yep
[17:56] <irrumat0r> dlentz: but I've found success so far just getting the modules I need from pip
[17:56] <velko_> antaras, yes
[17:56] <JohnNapster> guess not
[17:56] <salmiak> JohnNapster: yes. XFCE is a window manager. Xubuntu is not neccearly "lighter" than the gnome thing when it comes to ubuntu I believe though
[17:57] <JohnNapster> xfce is a desktop environment, just like unit, but xfce is very lightweight
[17:57] <JohnNapster> unit = unity
[17:57] <velko_> antaras, but not for very much longer. i'm waiting for my washing machine to finish and i'm going to drink beer
[17:58] <dlentz> irrumat0r, choosing the default version of python is easy with the alternatives system
[17:58] <antaras> velko_,  ok :)  if you can check this
[17:58] <antaras>  http://pastebin.com/S9Ut8NKp
[17:58] <JohnNapster> xubuntu has xfce installed by default
[17:58] <antaras> velko_, http://pastebin.com/xsC3pKyV
[17:58] <irrumat0r> word dlentz
[17:58] <dlentz> so you can make 2.6.5 the default and run python 2.7.x programs with "python2.7 <program>"
[17:58] <irrumat0r> thanks!
[17:58] <JohnNapster> that's why the X in ubuntu
[17:58] <salmiak> JohnNapster: yeah sorry. xfce is the desktop environment, xfce's window manager is called xfwm
[17:58] <JohnNapster> that's why the X in Xubuntu
[17:59] <velko_> antaras, what about it?
[17:59] <mintman_> dr_willis:  Is it illegal to lookup the ip adress of the service provider ur attached to my ip tracer or ip tracker?
[17:59] <antaras> velko_,  where is my wlan0 ??
[17:59] <antaras> im connect with wifi now and my wifi card isnt here ..
[17:59] <velko_> antaras, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:00] <JohnNapster> salmiak: are you perhaps nolaunchpad?
[18:00] <JohnNapster> on launchpad
[18:00] <velko_> antaras, and maybe the output of "sudo iwconfig"
[18:00] <mintman_> dr_willis: I thoght service providers have to make legally publizied ip adresses
[18:01] <JohnNapster> i am on a netbook right now... is there any ubuntu version targeted for the netbook spacifically?
[18:02] <JohnNapster> lubuntu  ?
[18:02] <JohnNapster> i am on a system with only 4 GB SSD
[18:02] <Fyodorovna> JohnNapster, unity is the closest but no actual netbook version
[18:02] <JohnNapster> and the standard ubuntu is kind of heavy
[18:03] <satyanash> Fyodorovna, use Xmonad.
[18:03] <salmiak> JohnNapster: launchpad? that is the bug tracking website right? I don't think I've used that no. not so I remembere any login anyway.
[18:03] <JohnNapster> unity?
[18:03] <satyanash> Fyodorovna, If you can Handle it.
[18:03] <superdave321> I "upgraded" to ubuntu studio from vanilla using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu Now my audio is not working. how do I get it back?
[18:03] <JohnNapster> launchpad is project-hosting websit
[18:04] <JohnNapster> it hosts ubuntu as well and all the packages...
[18:04] <satyanash> Something like GitHub or SourceForge..
[18:04] <JohnNapster> i thought you were a dev
[18:04] <salmiak> JohnNapster: you should try Lubuntu perhaps, it should be the lightest ubuntu distribution I believe. shouldn't eat too much disk space either. it uses LXDE desktop environment instead.
[18:05] <Fyodorovna> satyanash, read the posts, if you can handle it. :)
[18:05] <JohnNapster> do you happen to know how to make a bootable usb key with Lubuntu on it  ?
[18:05] <satyanash> Fyodorovna, Haha..
[18:06] <JohnNapster> i don't have a CD-ROM in this netbook
[18:06] <Fyodorovna> satyanash, personally I have net met a open source I could not run, but thanks for your concern. :)
[18:06] <antaras> velko_,  disconnected sorry  ..  tell me again
[18:07] <antaras> what r u want to paste  ??
[18:07] <salmiak> JohnNapster: no, but google knows:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/put-lubuntu-on-a-flash-drive-using-windows/   :-D
[18:07] <satyanash> Fyodorovna, I was talking to JohnNapster, actually. And by Handling I meant changing the default configging for Xmonad can be slightly complex for begineners.
[18:07] <satyanash> Fyodorovna, But you probably knew that.. :)
[18:08] <velko_> antaras, please pastebin the content of /etc/network/interfaces and the output of "sudo iwconfig". and do it quick - the machine is done :)
[18:08] <JohnNapster> salmiak: i'm on ubuntu precise right now
[18:08] <JohnNapster> i wanna put lubuntu from ubuntu on a usb key and make the key bootable
[18:09] <JohnNapster> will pendrive do the job?
[18:09] <antaras> velko_,  only this on interface auto lo
[18:09] <antaras> iface lo inet loopback
[18:09] <Kaco> fidl
[18:10] <Kaco> sorry
[18:10] <velko_> antaras, what does this mean? you have only lo in interfaces?
[18:10] <antaras> velko_,  http://pastebin.com/fSnxPW4H
[18:10] <antaras> i dont have idea ..
[18:11] <JohnNapster> salmiak: your link instructs to do that from within windows
[18:11] <velko_> antaras, ok - eth1 is your wireless card
[18:11] <JohnNapster> wylde: are you here?
[18:11] <salmiak> JohnNapster: oh.. sorry. I just did a quick search with google. there must certainly be similar program for linux yes
[18:12] <JohnNapster> i know it is
[18:12] <velko_> antaras, connected to "Free spot ... ;-)". maybe for this reason network manager does not recognize it? maybe it expects wlan0? but this is only a speculation
[18:12] <velko_> antaras, sorry dude - i'm off now
[18:12] <OerHeks> JohnNapster, you can use the tool in 'precise' too
[18:12] <JohnNapster> i used one when i installed this precise beta1
[18:12] <JohnNapster> but it didn't had the option to create a bootable usb stick for the lubuntu os
[18:12] <Miggs> Hey guys, when my laptop screen blanks the backlight stays on. Making it kinda power hungry. Any way to turn that off as well?
[18:13] <antaras> velko_,  thanx man anyway :)
[18:13] <JohnNapster> OerHeks: you mean the startup disk creator ?
[18:13] <Darxus> The answer to my question about my broken packages appears to be: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768  - aptitude is completely broken on oneric and precise.  WTF?
[18:13] <OerHeks> JohnNapster, yes
[18:14] <wylde> JohnNapster: yep, what's up?
[18:14] <JohnNapster> i'll try
[18:14] <JohnNapster> thanks
[18:14] <JohnNapster> wylde: which font does the  gnome-control-center use ?
[18:14] <wunnle> my unitys randomly keeps crashing when i press alt-tab. i can re-run unity by dropping the console, but it started to get annoying.
[18:14] <OerHeks> JohnNapster, if you have issues creating, then you better join #Ubuntu+1 for precise support.
[18:15] <wylde> Ubuntu or Ubuntu bold
[18:15] <AcidRain> yay i have 1 fully operational server!
[18:15] <wylde> JohnNapster: the ubuntu logo is lower case... look through the wikik titles etc. It's deliberate not a typo
[18:15] <JohnNapster> that "ubuntu 12.04 LTS"  bold sign
[18:15] <wylde> wiki*
[18:15] <JohnNapster> so it's an image?
[18:16] <JohnNapster> i see
[18:16] <wylde> JohnNapster: yep, it's part of a png
[18:16] <JohnNapster> that's why the "ubuntu" text is a little bit higher than the remaining "12.04 LTS" one
[18:16] <JohnNapster> i see
[18:16] <OerHeks> wunnle, what videocard do you use, and did you install drivers for it?
[18:17] <JohnNapster> nice to know
[18:17] <Guido1> hello, If i want to aces the maps on a special computer with xp i get the message "can't find list for shared maps" - i can acces the folders on another xp
[18:17] <Guido1> al are in the same intranet
[18:18] <thechris> Help, Firefox is now black background with black text.
[18:18] <OerHeks> 'special computer with xp'.. how is that different from the other xp?
[18:18] <wunnle> OerHeks, unfortnately, i have a damn optimus thing. dual videocards, GT540m and Intel. i removed driver of nvidia, so ubuntu uses intel now.
[18:19] <AcidRain> Guido1: this is ubuntu channel
[18:19] <OerHeks> wunnle, ahhh you have optimus, please look at Bumblebee , and there is also a #Bumblebee channel, those guys are up2date
[18:19] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[18:20] <wunnle> OerHeks, on freenode network, right?
[18:20] <thechris> This is actually very annoying
[18:20] <thechris> I'm pretty sure apt broke this
[18:20] <thechris> There really needs to be an apt undo
[18:20] <AcidRain> thechris: i agree. i could of sworn that one time someone in this channel gave me a command to fix things like this
[18:21] <JohnNapster> wylde: i have another question for you
[18:21] <newhaskeller> i have a question regarding my PS1
[18:21] <OerHeks> wunnle, yes
[18:21] <AcidRain> lol ps1
[18:21] <Guido1> AcidRain: perhaps that is the reason why i can't add the printer from the xp on ubuntu, but for another xp can find the printer, if i enter the part. do you know a lot about conectin network printers?
[18:21] <newhaskeller> I just did PS1="\e[0;31m[\W]\$ \e[m "
[18:22] <newhaskeller> and this causes the cli to behave strangely..
[18:22] <wunnle> OerHeks, i spend hours on this channel to install a proper bumblebee on my last ubuntu installation. On this installation, a friend mine suggested to install nvidia driver, so it would work without problems with intel one. Is that a lie :P ?
[18:22] <JohnNapster> wylde: how can i get the currently installed version of ubuntu in a python script  ?
[18:22] <AcidRain> Guido1: i know that ubuntu can handle just about any type of external usb device that you through at it out of box
[18:22] <newhaskeller> all i wanted was to change the color and only display relative path of present directory
[18:22] <wunnle> *uninstall
[18:22] <newhaskeller> what did I do wrong?
[18:22] <AcidRain> Guido1: it handled my neural impulse actuator pretty well :)
[18:23] <OerHeks> wunnle, i do not own an Optimus, i believe all you need is the graphic-card switcher to make nvidia work properly
[18:23] <AcidRain> wunnle: u need hax
[18:23] <wunnle> AcidRain, what is that?
[18:23] <OerHeks> wunnle, it is far from perfect, it still uses a double xorg
[18:23] <JohnNapster> wylde: so if i have a string "You are running Ubuntu %s" % version
[18:23] <thechris> Updating firefox doens't help
[18:24] <JohnNapster> anone else knows this?
[18:24] <thechris> Also, firefox doens't send any messages to teh console
[18:24] <JohnNapster> anyone else knows this?
[18:24] <AcidRain> wunnle: hax: n Something deemed unfair or unexpectedly unfavorable. Could be used to accuse someone of using cheating/hacking/some sort of trickery to accomplish something, usually jokingly.
[18:24] <Guido1> AcidRain: perhaps it is easyer if i give the computers a name. computer "1": xp with printer; computer "2": xp using printer from 1; computer "3": ubuntu and i want to print via computer 1, but it does not work
[18:24] <jfisk1987> hey guys
[18:24] <JohnNapster> if i have a Python string "You are running Ubuntu %s" % version   --- how to get that version number of currently installed ubuntu?
[18:25] <JohnNapster> version =   ??
[18:25] <muelli> JohnNapster: check lsb_release
[18:25] <JohnNapster> lsb_release
[18:25] <OerHeks> JohnNapster, you had that answer before, didn't you?
[18:25] <AcidRain> Guido1: let me get this straight here. im not a big person on printers. but i thought with a network printer it pretty much pulls up a web interface?
[18:25] <AcidRain> the printer has its own ip address and what not
[18:26] <JohnNapster> OerHeks: yeah, and i can't use this thing
[18:26] <thechris> Its almost like one of firefox's dependencys was uninstalled
[18:26] <thechris> is there anyway to fix this?
[18:26] <Guido1> AcidRain:: if i want to see the shared folders on "2" and "3" it is possible with every computer; if i want to see the shared folders on computer 1 it does not work - i only can see the computer
[18:26] <Justas> If I have Realterk 8168C drivers which are for kernel v 2.4 and 2.6 will they work on Ubuntu 11.10?
[18:27] <JohnNapster> No LSB modules are available.
[18:27] <Guido1> AcidRain: I have one printer, a local network and difrent computers. al printer sheel use the same printer
[18:27] <JohnNapster> if i do No LSB modules are available.
[18:27] <AcidRain> Guido1: that sounds like a netbios issue from like 1990 ^_^
[18:27] <Justas> Because I already tried running the included 'autorun.sh', but I get an error message something like 'unload driver first'
[18:27] <JohnNapster> if i do lsb_release  No LSB modules are available.
[18:27] <wylde> JohnNapster: I was afk, what's up?
[18:27] <JohnNapster> if i have a Python string "You are running Ubuntu %s" % version   --- how to get that version number of currently installed ubuntu?
[18:27] <Guido1> AcidRain: do you have any idea how to fix?
[18:27] <ssta> JohnNapster: -a
[18:27] <AcidRain> Guido1: no lol
[18:28] <OerHeks> cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:28] <wylde> JohnNapster: have a look at /usr/bin/lsb_release
[18:29] <Guido1> AcidRain: with xp i can use the printer on the strange computer by using the network path \\servername\printername
[18:29] <JohnNapster> wylde: i am fixing a string in update-manager package and i want to say "These software updates were issued since Ubuntu %s was released" % version"
[18:30] <JohnNapster> i cn't do   version = lsb_release in a script like that
[18:30] <Guido1> AcidRain: but if i try it with ubuntu it seams quite strange. ubuntu askes me which treiber i want to instal. (from difrent fabricants)
[18:30] <JohnNapster> and i just need the number part of the version
[18:30] <wylde> JohnNapster: like i said look at /usr/bin/lsb_release, probably find what you want in there
[18:30] <JohnNapster> like "12.04" or "11.10" etc.
[18:31] <Guido1> AcidRain: i also recognissed that the computer apears as a professional in the network, but if i look on the computer itselfe it says home
[18:31] <ssta> JohnNapster: something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/877869/ ?
[18:32] <JohnNapster> lsb_release -r Release:	12.04     i only need the "12.04 part" and not the  "Release:     "  part
[18:32] <ssta> oh, JUST the number...
[18:32] <ssta> hang on
[18:32] <ericus> Any ideas on why my clock won't show 24 hour time in 12.04 with classic desktop?
[18:32] <ericus> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4375930/zapfire.png
[18:33] <ssta> JohnNapster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/877873/
[18:33] <JohnNapster> lsb_release -r    Release:   	12.04     i only need the "12.04 part" and not the  "Release:     "  part    how can i get that?
[18:33] <wylde> JohnNapster: lsb_release -rs
[18:33] <OerHeks> man lsb_release
[18:33] <JohnNapster> okay let me see
[18:33] <thechris> Firefox has black text on a black background, even for the menu
[18:33] <P1rate> Hi
[18:33] <Kaizen> how do i install minimum ubuntu, i want the smallest disk space footprint possible but with some kind of graphical desktop and browser, i tried mini.iso but the footprint is still 1.5GB
[18:34] <thechris> for some reason, attempting to install software has broken firefox
[18:34] <P1rate> Kaizen: do you want to install it or try it out ?
[18:34] <ssta> Kaizen: I'm not sure that Ubuntu is what you want for the smallest footprint.  There are otyher distros that specialise in small footprints
[18:34] <Kaizen> p1rate install to virtualbox hard disk
[18:34] <OerHeks> Kaizen, so be it. you were here before with the same Q, 2 Gb is too big?
[18:35] <Kaizen> well i like ubuntu, surely there's a way to get it down to 500MB
[18:35] <ssta> Kaizen: I really doubt you can get it down under 500M
[18:35] <P1rate> Kaizen: what if you install it and then you uninstall everything you dont need
[18:36] <go8765> hello. can anybody help me please with mounting?
[18:36] <go8765> i cant mount my ntfs hdd(
[18:37] <ssta> Kaizen: even lubuntu needs more than that.
[18:37] <Kaizen> hmm maybe if i install the server version and then just add bits in i need? i haven't tried that yet
[18:37] <Kaizen> i'll try that
[18:37] <ssta> it's the desktop that adds the space
[18:38] <t3r5354t> tes
[18:38] <P1rate> Kaizen: if you what a simple distro you might want to take a look at arch or smt like that
[18:38] <DJones> Kaizen: server needs 1gb to install according to the requirements page
[18:38] <ssta> Kaizen: there are distros like damnsmalllinux, or puppy that specialise in small installs.  This isn't where Ubuntu is aimed at
[18:38] <Kaizen> i tried 10 other distro's most give same problem except Slitaz but i can't install it to disk
[18:39] <trism> ericus: gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.datetime time-format '24-hour'; also further 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[18:39] <renemoraes> after update to kernel <IP_ADDRESS> the fan of my pc is extremelly noise... can anyone help me?
[18:39] <P1rate> Kaizen: what problem?
[18:39] <Kaizen> p1rate disk size
[18:40] <renemoraes> the grub isnt reading my quiet splash settings anymore...
[18:40] <ericus> trism: thanks, will check that out!
[18:42] <ericus> awesome trism, worked just perfect! Thanks again
[18:42] <ericus> go8765
[18:42] <Dustfang> so I was wondering if Ubuntu can be installed without the use of a traditional keyboard.
[18:42] <thechris> Firefox still displays black text on a black background.
[18:43] <thechris> How do I fix this?
[18:43] <P1rate> Dustfang: and use what a virtual one?
[18:43] <thechris> even the menu is black
[18:44] <thechris> I tried to install, then uninstall the amazon mp3 downloader, but this hasn't worked
[18:44] <thechris> and now I can't use firefox
[18:44] <ssta> Dustfang: you can probably do something witha  tool like kickstart
[18:44] <thechris> Does anyone know why the menus, text, and background are black in firefox?
[18:45] <Dustfang> either that, or a bluetooth. though I doubt the BT drivers would work before its installed.  I've got a tablet at the moment, so it's got a bluetooth keyboard, but not a usb. Didn't want to drop money on another keyboard unless I needed to.
[18:45] <go8765> ericus: ?
[18:47] <ericus> go8765: see private msg
[18:48] <thechris> Ist there a way to see if a package is installed?
[18:49] <thechris> like apt-get installed pkg
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> thechris  apt-cache policy
[18:50] <derpella> Hello. How can I boot Ubuntu without any GUI starting?
[18:51] <thechris> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:52] <avion> hello, I am new in xubuntu. I would like to know if any hav had any issues with slow play, lagging videos with youtube?
[18:52] <P1rate> derpella: you can type alt control  f1 to have a cli
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> avion  try this http://www.youtube.com/html5
[18:53] <avion> should I download another software to watch in html5?
[18:53] <derpella> P1rate: this is not what I want :)
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> avion  try vlc
[18:54] <JohnNapster> wylde: lsb_release -rs  does output "12.04" which is great in a console... but not in a Python script, i.e.  version = lsb_release -rs  in a Python script  ?????
[18:54] <avion> thanks very much Monkey
[18:55] <JohnNapster> you can't do  version = lsb_release -rs   in a python script
[18:55] <JohnNapster> any other suggestions?
[18:55] <wylde> JohnNapster: the lsb_release is actually a python script, that's why I told you to look at it.
[18:55] <avion> one more question, if i install vlc, should i save the videos separetaly or just whatch them in the firefox navif¡gator?
[18:56] <JohnNapster> it is???
[18:56] <JohnNapster> hmmm
[18:56] <wylde> JohnNapster:  gedit /usr/bin/lsb_release
[18:56] <JohnNapster> ah, thanks
[18:56] <wylde> JohnNapster: yep
[18:59] <JohnNapster> distinfo = lsb_release.get_distro_information()
[19:00] <JohnNapster> distinfo.get('RELEASE', 'n/a')
[19:00] <oCean> JohnNapster: why are you posting that here?
[19:00] <JohnNapster> that's all well but this is all from the lsb_release module
[19:00] <JohnNapster> do you happen to know where is it located?
[19:01] <JohnNapster> wylde: do you happen to know?
[19:01] <wylde> JohnNapster: not offhand
[19:01] <GVolkmann> Hello all. Not ubuntu-specific, but...when I have stdout written to a term and I have vim open, how do I redraw vim so I can get back to working on my document?
[19:02] <JohnNapster> wylde: the script that you offered me imports from the lsb_release module
[19:02] <JohnNapster> i really need to see how lsb_release module gets the version string of a distro in python code
[19:03] <wylde> JohnNapster: possibly /urs/share/pyshared or /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages
[19:03] <pipper> hello i need an android channel.... but i can't enter it... i need help.... anyone with a rooted phone?
[19:04] <pipper> i need infos...
[19:04] <pipper> thank you
[19:04] <renemoraes> please i need some help with my grub
[19:04] <renemoraes> my pc is overheating after install kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:05] <escott> renemoraes, how are those too related?
[19:05] <renemoraes> and its not reading my "quiet splash pcie_aspm=force" command at the boot
[19:05] <renemoraes> escott: i used to turn off my radeon ati graphics card on my grub using the pcie_aspm command
[19:05] <oCean> pipper: that's offtopic here, /join #android channel
[19:05] <escott> renemoraes, did you run grub-update after modifying /etc/default/grub
[19:06] <newbodhi> hi
[19:06] <renemoraes> escott: yes! i dont know the reason but the line isnt being reading
[19:06] <JohnNapster> ha! lsb_relese is a python module... can you guys tell me how can i locate it?
[19:06] <escott> renemoraes, the !paste your default/grub
[19:06] <JohnNapster> lsb_release.__file__ perhaps?
[19:06] <pipper> oCean, can't... need +r
[19:06] <SHOVELL> i had some issues with gparted seeing the partitions but the computer boots fine and i can now read the partition table but gparted cant read the table is it possible to fix this with out re installing?
[19:07] <newbodhi> i am setting proxy in terminal, should i put "export http_proxy http://x.x.x.x:8080" or "export http_proxy x.x.x.x:8080" in ~/.bashrc?
[19:07] <iceroot> JohnNapster: /usr/bin/lsb_release: a /usr/bin/python script, ASCII text executable
[19:07] <renemoraes> escott: what u mean?
[19:07] <escott> !paste | renemoraes
[19:07] <oCean> !register | pipper
[19:07] <JohnNapster> i am a genius!
[19:07] <escott> renemoraes, sorry dropped a "please !paste the"
[19:08] <renemoraes> ok
[19:09] <renemoraes> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/877917/
[19:09] <skmsmslk> is there possible  to create video dvd with password ?
[19:09] <ana_> exit
[19:10] <escott> renemoraes, ok. that looks ok, can you rerun sudo update-grub and then !paste the /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:10] <JohnNapster> i am a genius!
[19:10] <renemoraes> escott: sure
[19:11] <escott> skmsmslk, you could gpg encrypt your file
[19:11] <oCean> JohnNapster: chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:11] <skmsmslk> i donot any thing about encrypt ?
[19:12] <renemoraes> escott: thanks in advance escott! http://paste.ubuntu.com/877921/
[19:13] <escott> skmsmslk, you cannot create a dvd that has a password and is playable on a dvd player (at least ive never heard of such a thing) you can take arbitrary files and encrypt them with gpg and put then transfer/archive the encrypted file
[19:14] <SHOVELL> my partition table seems to be broken or corrupt HELP
[19:14] <skmsmslk> or is there possible to create the password for dvd so that no one can copy it ?
[19:14] <escott> renemoraes, if you reboot now "cat /proc/cmdline" should list the kernel pcie aspm arg among others. the only reason it would not is if your boot partition is not actually controlling the boot (ie you have another linux install with its own grub in the mbr)
[19:15] <escott> skmsmslk, no. you should encrypt the files you put on the dvd, and treat it as a data dvd
[19:15] <SHOVELL> hi rhez
[19:15] <rhez> sup
[19:15] <skmsmslk> how does encrypt work on it ?
[19:16] <SHOVELL> thank you
[19:16] <renemoraes> escott: nope. i dont have another linux install.. i have a partition with windows 7.. but i used to have it before updating my kernel
[19:16] <rhez> thank who?
[19:17] <renemoraes> escott: when i use cat /proc/cmdline  it shows that the args are being reading
[19:17] <donsd> How do you fix the Firefox "well this is embarrasing" message when starting Ubuntu 11.10?
[19:18] <muelli> donsd: I think you just need to shut firefox down properly, i.e. don't kill it
[19:18] <escott> renemoraes, then the args are being passed to the kernel
[19:18] <renemoraes> escott: yeah.. thats the problem... anyway.. thanks!
[19:19] <donsd> muelli, no, after proper shutdown. From command line or icon.
[19:19] <escott> skmsmslk, on the cli type gpg -c -e filename  and it will ask for a password and then create a file with a .gpg extension which can only be decrypted with that password
[19:20] <donsd> Many report Firefox on Google, but I have not found solution.
[19:20] <muelli> donsd: well. It shouldn't show it. If it does, you might have set the start page to that "embarrasing" page.
[19:21] <skmsmslk> does it help in copying the video file ?
[19:21] <donsd> muelli, no, not specific to url.
[19:22] <SHOVELL> i had some issues with gparted seeing the partitions but the computer boots fine and i can now read the partition table but gparted cant read the table is it possible to fix this with out re installing?
[19:23] <hanasaki> anyone have a reference to the requirement that the mx record must be an IP not hostname?
[19:24] <escott> skmsmslk, you evidently dont understand how encryption/passwords work. so maybe if you tell us what you want to do we can tell you how to do it
[19:25] <Kayleeeeee> hello how can i make my computer headless? i dont want gnome or any X things to start when i start my computer. but how?
[19:25] <iceroot> hanasaki: maybe #postfix
[19:26] <hanasaki> ah
[19:26] <hanasaki> thanks
[19:26] <iceroot> !nox | Kayleeeeee
[19:26] <Kayleeeeee> oh, thanks! :D
[19:26] <skmsmslk> yes u r right i had never use it before  but will u pls tell me syntax to write it in terminal i.e give some exampls !
[19:29] <escott> skmsmslk, suppose i have a file "secrets.txt" and I want to encrypt it with a password then I type gpg -c secrets.txt and it will ask for a password. it will create secrets.txt.gpg at which point I can remove the secrets.txt file. now this is not the best way to encrypt things. there are better ways that involve keyfiles and the like, but thats a very simple approach
[19:30] <hellyeah> hey
[19:30] <hanasaki> iceroot:  thanks... exim and postfix are dead quiet
[19:30] <hellyeah> i want to know is there a program for drawing web site design. I mean i make a web site and i will design it i need to do some demonstration like an image is there a program for that
[19:31] <escott> skmsmslk, the best encryption method takes into account who you want to share the data with, and who your adversaries are etc..
[19:31] <waxstone> hellyeah, gimp,inkscape
[19:33] <SHOVELL> hellyeah you want komposer
[19:33] <hellyeah> gimp.inkscape
[19:33] <SHOVELL> hellyeah website design
[19:33] <skmsmslk> does it mean that after encrypt i have to keep .txt and add .txt.gpg to burn  ?
[19:34] <hellyeah> yeah for example i want to design home page to show i make your web design like that
[19:34] <hellyeah> it is like just an image for demonstration
[19:34] <hellyeah> and they say it is okey we like this design i will code it
[19:35] <escott> skmsmslk, no you would remove the secrets.txt that is called "plaintext" and anyone can read it. you would archive/email the ciphertext file secrets.txt.gpg only someone who knows the password (or is willing to try all the possible password combinations) will be able to recover the plaintext
[19:35] <hellyeah> but first i need to show an image of web page design i hope you understand what my intension is
[19:36] <hellyeah> i am using ubuntu and what program can i use for that i wonder
[19:36] <SHOVELL> gimp would be it hellyeah
[19:37] <skmsmslk> after burn , does dvd player can read it ?
[19:37] <zero77> r u want make some wireframes
[19:37] <escott> skmsmslk, obviously if you pick an easily guessed or very short password, then your adversary will be able to find the password more quickly and the security will be limited. real security comes with keyfiles which are long strings of random numbers and you protect that keyfile, but depending on who your adversary is that may or may not be necessary. and if your security is too strong the adversary might throw you in prison if it is a go
[19:37] <escott> vernment or break your legs if its a criminal enterprise or both where those two interesect. so there is a tradeoff and you have to think about what you need
[19:37] <SHOVELL> hellyeah, if you are looking for a image program to "propose" a website design
[19:38] <hellyeah> propose
[19:38] <SHOVELL> hellyeah,  then gimp or inkwell
[19:38] <piotr_kuna> hi there :)
[19:38] <hellyeah> inkwell hmm
[19:38] <escott> skmsmslk, if you mean DVD player as in "DVD player connected to a TV" then NO, that is not possible, you will not be able to do that. if you mean will I be able to open this on another computer, then YES.
[19:39] <hellyeah> there is no such program inkwell i didnt find anything on ubuntu repos
[19:40] <SHOVELL> i mis spoke
[19:40] <curiousx> aloha, salut a tute le monde =P
[19:40] <SHOVELL> my partition table seems to be broken or corrupt HELP i would like to fix this with out reinstall
[19:41] <cr34tix> Can anyone help me. I have a canon mp640 to install on an ubuntu
[19:41] <trijntje> cr34tix: what have you tried so far?
[19:42] <piotr_kuna> 12.04, my pidgin is hanging after start :(
[19:42] <zampouras> hello
[19:42] <cr34tix> not much, cause i am a beginner on ubuntu. i need someone, who can do this with me step by step
[19:42] <skmsmslk> thank buddy but still my moto is to run it on both dvd player or another computer but i donot want to share it !
[19:43] <zampouras> i have installed google chrome as an alternative browser but each time i start it up, it asks for a certain code to unlock
[19:43] <zampouras> how can i skip this?
[19:43] <oCean> piotr_kuna: help for 12.04 is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[19:43] <piotr_kuna> oCean, thx
[19:44] <curiousx> SHOVELL: some time ago, i found a tutorial fixin partition tables with "testdisk" but i never tryied
[19:44] <elijah> How can I get xampp from the software center?
[19:44] <KM0201> well, if it's not in the software center, you can;t get it from there
[19:45] <oCean> !xampp | elijah
[19:45] <SHOVELL> curiousx, i did that to get the partition table to the point that it could be read
[19:45] <escott> skmsmslk, you cannot. how would you even enter the password into the dvd player. no dvd player supports this. connect your pc to the tv instead
[19:45] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to build a package that uses "./autogen.sh",  but I'm getting these errors:  http://dpaste.com/714716/plain/   Any ideas why that is?
[19:46] <curiousx> SHOVELL: but is not fix it enough?
[19:46] <savid> I've installed the autotools package
[19:46] <escott> savid, the standard disclaimer applies here... "have you checked that the software is not in APT. have you looked for a PPA. do you know how to use checkinstall or --prefix directories?"
[19:47] <skmsmslk> yes u r right  , i am getting this point !
[19:48] <n0sq> it's interesting that standard pc serial ports get assigned a port address and irq but usb serial ports converters don't (according to dmesg) - i'm still trying to figure out how to get the usb serial port converters to work - why don't they get a port address and irq automatically?
[19:48] <Leo_> hi dudes
[19:48] <savid> escott,  yeah, there's a PPA for this but I need to use a specific version that's not in the PPA.  I'm not familiar w/ checkinstall,   and I've tried --prefix=/usr
[19:49] <n0sq> dmesg sees ttyUSB0 but doesn't show a port address or irq setting
[19:49] <savid> escott,  I'm not able to get past ./autogen.sh so checkinstall wouldn't really even help
[19:49] <escott> savid, you definitely dont want to prefix to /usr. it should be prefixed to /usr/local/bin or /opt depending upon your preference. install something to /usr and you stomp on your system binaries and libraries and break your box
[19:49] <hellyeah> is there any way to get back gnome-panel like ubuntu 10.04
[19:49] <hellyeah> i want to add something to my gnome-apenl like system monitor
[19:49] <hellyeah> i dont like the new panel appearence in ubuntu 11.10
[19:50] <escott> hellyeah, no
[19:50] <savid> escott, well, whatever I use for the prefix I get the same result
[19:50] <KM0201> escott: lol, guess he didn't like that answer
[19:50] <savid> escott,  it seems as if the autoconf directory does not get created, which is why these errors are coming up.  I'm just not familiar enough with autoconf internals to know what is normally responsible for creating that directory.
[19:50] <JohnNapster> i am a genius!
[19:51] <escott> KM0201, i've got join/part hidden so i didnt notice
[19:51] <Leo_> why ?
[19:51] <oCean> JohnNapster: enough. stop it
[19:51] <JohnNapster> but i am!
[19:51] <KM0201> escott: :)
[19:51] <Leo_> yeah!
[19:51] <Leo_> you're a genius man
[19:51] <oCean> Leo_: do you have an actual support question?
[19:52] <oCean> if not, chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[19:52] <Leo_> no
[19:52] <escott> savid, im not too familiar with autotools, and i have to get going, so im not much help in the actual problem, just wanted to warn you not to install to /usr
[19:52] <Leo_> i dont know what is this
[19:52] <hellyeah> hey
[19:52] <hellyeah> is there any way to get back gnome-panel like ubuntu 10.04
 i want to add something to my gnome-apenl like system monitor
 i dont like the new panel appearence in ubuntu 11.10
[19:52] <KM0201> hellyeah: you were told "NO" already
[19:52] <pfifo> savid, try `automake --add-missing`
[19:52] <escott> hellyeah, no. the gnome2 panel is gone. there are things that look like it, and there is xubuntu those are your choices
[19:52] <muelli> well hellyeah.  Right now, it doesn't seem to be possible, because it only takes package name. Does anybody have a suggestion?
[19:55] <savid> pfifo, here's what I get: http://dpaste.com/714724/plain/
[19:56] <pfifo> savid, try `autoreconf` and also can you pastebin the output of `find` from that directory
 how to decrypt the file ?
[19:56] <escott> skmsmslk, gpg -d filename.gpg
[19:57] <vexati0n> why are applications repeated 25 times in the GNOME "Open With" dialog? After 15 years they still haven't figured this out ... ?
[19:57] <rebka>  /join #surfer
[19:57] <imrobert> hey, I ran out of room on my Ubuntu partition and gpart won't let me increase the size, I'm fairly new to Linux but I'm starting to consider reinstalling on the whole drive (replacing Win7) is this advisable?
[19:58] <muelli> heh. Replacing Window is indeed advisable ;-)
[19:58] <escott> imrobert, are you trying to increase from within ubuntu or from a livecd.
[19:58] <vexati0n> imrobert: if you're going to axe Win7 anyway, just go to Disk Utility, delete the Win7 partition, create a new ext4 partition and mount it somewhere where you need more space
[19:58] <imrobert> escott from a cd
[19:58] <vexati0n> unless you installed from WUBI, in which case yeah, reinstall.
[19:59] <escott> imrobert, and is there free space at the end of the partition?
[19:59] <imrobert> vexati0n well I only installed yesterday so it's not like I have much on there, also, I installed 32bit (cd I burned a while ago) but I'd like to install 64 this time
[20:00] <savid> pfifo, http://dpaste.com/714728/plain/
[20:00] <imrobert> escott I'm not sure what you mean?
 when i decrypt it from terminal its gone for infinite command and stopped !
[20:00] <pfifo> imrobert, you should keep windows, but repartition your drive in a manner that puts disk space where you need it
[20:00] <rebka>  /join #surfer
[20:00] <imrobert> pfifo how?
[20:00] <vexati0n> imrobert: then i'd reinstall from scratch and kill off win7
[20:00] <dlentz> imrobert, you could also shrink your win partition if free space on it is plentiful
[20:00] <imrobert> gpart wouldn't let me resize it
[20:00] <dlentz> it wasn't mounted, was it?
[20:01] <pangolin> rebka: no space in front of the / and stop advertising your channel in here. thanks.
[20:01] <vexati0n> pfifo: why would you ever tell somebody to "keep windows" ? :-P
[20:01] <escott> skmsmslk, you need to redirect the output to a file gpg filename.gpg > cleartext.txt
[20:02] <hellyeah> hey
[20:02] <imrobert> dlentz what does it mean for it to be mounted?
[20:02] <KM0201> vexati0n: some situations it's advisable.. nobody should go cold turkey from windows to ubuntu, that's a recipe for fail
[20:02] <hellyeah> is there a package for lucidchart in ubuntu
[20:02] <savid> pfifo, actually, I've found instructions.  apparently I have to use autoreconf
[20:02] <pfifo> vexati0n, because after 12 years of using linux I realize the noobish bicker of what is best is irrelevant
[20:02] <dlentz> vexati0n, it's good to have a backup OS, be it linux or windows
[20:02] <Guest21515> hi all, can anybody help me i am running ubuntu 11.10 i have adobe flash installed but it keeps crashing when i go to mebeam.com can anybody help me ?
[20:02] <vexati0n> KM0201: I'm cold turkey on Linux.... if I need Windows, that's what virtualBox is for.
[20:02] <dlentz> imrobert, i guess it would be better to do it within windows
[20:02] <vexati0n> never let it actually touch your hardware, it could get its cooties all over your hard drive
[20:02] <KM0201> vexati0n: well, thats fine, but... you didn't indicate to him to keep windows in vbox.
[20:02] <pfifo> savid, yeah, i said autoreconf. i was about to say, "that didnt work?"
[20:03] <imrobert> How do I resize the Windows partition?
 pls by an example !
[20:03] <escott> skmsmslk, if it was a really large file and is still dumping text to the screen type ctrl-c
[20:03] <Guest21515> hi all, can anybody help me i am running ubuntu 11.10 i have adobe flash installed but it keeps crashing when i go to mebeam.com can anybody help me ?
[20:04] <dlentz> imrobert, go into windows' disk management
[20:04] <pfifo> imrobert, wipe your hard drive completly, and repartition, its upto you on the sizes to use, but use this experience to help guide you
[20:04] <skmsmslk> i came to my root !
[20:04] <escott> skmsmslk, im not sure what the example would be to encrypt "gpg -c filename;" it will ask for a password and create filename.gpg to decrypt "gpg -d filename.gpg > filename2" will ask for a password and generate filename2
[20:04] <dlentz> i like linux, but i would keep windows unless i was hurting for drive space
[20:04] <imrobert> pfifo I don't have a windows recovery disk
[20:05] <pfifo> imrobert, pirate one
[20:05] <savid> pfifo, ah, I thought you said autoconf.  oops :-)   Oh well, seems to work now!
[20:05] <iceroot> pfifo: we dont support that here, please stop it
[20:05] <schnuffle> imrobert: use a partition tool on CD or USB like partimage
[20:05] <oCean> pfifo: that is not appropriate in ubuntu channels
[20:05] <imrobert> schnuffle I tried using gpart
[20:05] <imrobert> schnuffle wouldn't let me
[20:05] <dlentz> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/
[20:06] <imrobert> dlentz thanks
[20:06] <skmsmslk> i think  u r telling to do it vice-versa !
[20:06] <schnuffle> imrobert: you have to boot from a the  CD or USB not from your disk. If it fails restart Windows and do a chkdsk
[20:06] <imrobert> schnuffle I did
[20:07] <schnuffle> imrobert: then try dlentz link
[20:08] <imrobert> schnuffle yeah that's what I'm doing now
[20:08] <schnuffle> imrobert: good luck
[20:08] <schnuffle> imrobert: and do a backup of your data before
[20:09] <imrobert> schnuffle I have my important docs backed up with dropbox
[20:09] <schnuffle> imrobert: good to hear :)
[20:09] <nuna> sskjnjhksdn
[20:10] <[deXter]> Hi all, my 11.10 install isn't booting up anymore. The last time we were using it, it looked like the flash plugin had got corrupted or something. Then there was an error about some packages getting corrupted or something. Now the system won't boot. Blank screen. I'm able to get into the basic recovery shell and fsck checks out fine. I'm not able to boot into runlevel 3. How do I go about getting into a shell that supports basic networking? Thanks.
[20:11] <hellyeah> is there any alternative of lucidchat in linux
 thanks i had tried all the command u tell me !
[20:11] <pfifo> i just updated flash on 10.04, i wonder if my flash works?
[20:12] <pangolin> pfifo : try it
[20:12] <AcidRain> brasero disk burner is failing to burn a disk, when i hit the burn button, it says "starting to record" ... "ejeciting medium" ... "error"
[20:12] <AcidRain> in the log, it says error message =""
[20:12] <imnichol> I'm trying to figure out how to register the sip: protocol with firefox so that clicking on "sip" links will open up empathy
[20:12] <schnuffle> [deXter]: Isn't there a menu entry that starts with network?
[20:12] <imnichol> Anyone know how to do that?
[20:12] <pfifo> pangolin, all is fine
[20:12] <AcidRain> message	= "no message"
[20:12] <[deXter]> schnuffle, Nope.
[20:13] <AcidRain> BraseroGrowisofs stderr: :-[ MODE SELECT failed with SK=5h/INVALID FIELD IN PARAMETER LIST]: Input/output error
[20:13] <AcidRain> does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:13] <zykotick9> hellyeah: lucidchat appears to be an irc network http://lucidchat.net/ any irc client "should" work
[20:13] <schnuffle> [deXter]: I crashed mine some days ago and I could choose beteen normal boot, recorvery and recovery with network
[20:13] <[deXter]> O.o
[20:13] <[deXter]> schmidtm, 11.10?
[20:13] <schnuffle> [deXter]: Anyway what tells you ifconfig?
[20:14] <[deXter]> schnuffle, Hold on, booting into recovery now.
[20:14] <AcidRain> i need this. like now
[20:14] <[deXter]> schnuffle, Nothing.
[20:14] <[deXter]> I tried "networking start" but that didn't work.
[20:15] <pfifo> AcidRain, are you insistant on using basero? 1sudo apt-get install gnomebaker`
[20:15] <[deXter]> Wait, "service networking start" works, and now ifconfig lists the localhost
[20:15] <[deXter]> err, the loopback interface
[20:15] <[deXter]> now how do I load eth0 :P
[20:17] <schnuffle> [deXter]: Is it configured with networj manager?
[20:17] <[deXter]> schnuffle, Yeah
[20:17] <schnuffle> [deXter]: if it doesn't show up you need to load te apropriate kernel modeule
[20:17] <AcidRain> pfifo: gnomebaker does not burn image files :/
[20:18] <schnuffle> [deXter]: I guess sudo ifconfig eth0 up, will not work
[20:18] <[deXter]> schnuffle, The card is a marvell 88E8036 fast ethernet controller
[20:18] <[deXter]> Know which module to load for that?
[20:18] <pfifo> AcidRain, tools->burn cd image
[20:18] <AcidRain> pfifo: any other ideas
[20:18] <schnuffle> [deXter]: start udev
[20:18] <MadsRC> Does anyone have any experience in fixing ctrl+alt+f1 (and 2,3 and so forth) so that it doesn't show a blank black screen, but shows a terminal?
[20:18] <superdave321> what is the name of the file explorer?
[20:18] <AcidRain> pfifo: ok, but im not sure if this will work. i have done a complete uninstall of brasero.
[20:19] <hellyeah> is there anyone here who use pencil works
[20:19] <[deXter]> schnuffle, Still only the loopback.
[20:19] <pfifo> superdave321, nautilus
[20:19] <AcidRain> pfifo: gnomebaker did the same thing, it ejected the disk before it burned
[20:19] <AcidRain> ...
[20:20] <AcidRain> should i go buy another cd drive?
[20:20] <pfifo> AcidRain, goto the command line and run `wodim /path/to/image.iso`
[20:20] <dlentz> AcidRain, k3b?
[20:22] <ubuntu> hi
[20:22] <schnuffle> [deXter]: isn't there some udev-trigger to start as well.
[20:22] <ubuntu> someone speak polish and can help me with
[20:22] <oCean> !pl | ubuntu
[20:22] <ubuntu> grub?
[20:22] <pfifo> !po | ubuntu
[20:22] <AcidRain> pfifo: wodim: Cannot init drive.
[20:22] <AcidRain> something wrong with the drive im pretty sure
[20:22] <pangolin> AcidRain : this may be a silly question but is this a new CD or a used one and if used is it CD-RW ?
[20:22] <AcidRain> but its brand new
[20:22] <derpella> Hello, where I can find a file with boot options?
[20:22] <pfifo> AcidRain, are you sure your drive is a cd recorder?
[20:22] <arlink> is there an application that lets me run a repository from ubuntu?
[20:22] <AcidRain> its a brand new computer of about 3 days old. it has been burning
[20:23] <AcidRain> just stopped
[20:23] <[deXter]> schmidtm, Hmm, no idea..
[20:23] <zykotick9> derpella: /etc/default/grub has the most common grub2 settings
[20:23] <AcidRain> i have a stack of about 100 cd/dvds that are all blank
[20:23] <pfifo> AcidRain, try again with a fresh CD that one may be damaged
[20:23] <AcidRain> and gnomebaker and brasero both say they are blank
[20:23] <derpella> zykotick9: I need boot options, not GRUB settings
[20:23] <AcidRain> pfifo: this is the 10th cd ive thrown in anger because i thought the same thing, lol
[20:23] <KM0201> AcidRain: if it's a new PC, do you have a 2gig thumb drive free?... if so, just make a bootable usb, problem solved.. deal w/ the cd later
[20:24] <dlentz> AcidRain, what model drive?
[20:24] <pfifo> AcidRain, can you pastebin the output of that last command
[20:24] <AcidRain> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/u2wt5gxv
[20:25] <AcidRain> usb ports on work computers are blocked
[20:25] <Deck`> what program do you use to listen to flac+cue music when flac is a single file ?
[20:25] <pfifo> AcidRain, try `sudo wodim /path/to/image.iso`
[20:26] <AcidRain> pfifo: i tried that the 2nd time, and that was the posted output on pastebin
[20:26] <KM0201> so they block USB ports, and you think it's a good idea to boot an operating system that runs off the CD on that cmputer?   hope you don't like that job much
[20:26] <GASSYPOOTS> seems like todays my last day of ubuntu... :(
[20:26] <AcidRain> KM0201: i am the GM, have to reformat and get system back up
[20:26] <KM0201> GASSYPOOTS: why's that?
[20:26] <KM0201> AcidRain: then why don't you unlock your USB ports?
[20:27] <GASSYPOOTS> my grandma wants windows7 which sucks
[20:27] <AcidRain> =/ i dont know how to do that.
[20:27] <KM0201> GASSYPOOTS: just dual boot
[20:27] <GASSYPOOTS> i cant get the boot menu
[20:27] <KM0201> GASSYPOOTS: why not?
[20:27] <GASSYPOOTS> when it starts up its not there
[20:27] <waxstone> !troll GASSYROOTS
[20:27] <AcidRain> ugh. nvm, i g2g. ill deal with my broken ass dvd/cd drive another day
[20:27] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: do you need ubuntu support ?
[20:27] <GASSYPOOTS> yep
[20:27] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: ok, what do you need help with
[20:28] <pfifo> AcidRain, can you pastebin the output of 'ls -l /dev/cdrom` and 'ls -l /path/to/image.iso'
[20:28] <GASSYPOOTS> setting up a boot menu with 11.10
[20:28] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: ok, what part are you not clear with ?
[20:28] <waxstone> GASSYPOOTS is a confirmed troll from last night
[20:28] <ikonia> waxstone: I'm aware of last night.
[20:28] <GASSYPOOTS> the system does a boot without the menu
[20:28] <waxstone> k
[20:28] <KM0201> waxstone: ah, thanks for the info..  i was gonna try to help him.. :)
[20:28] <derpella> Where is the equivalent of menu.lst?
[20:28] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: what OS is installed on this machine
[20:28] <ikonia> derpella: grub2 works different
[20:28] <Random832> my system doesn't have a boot menu either, so his question could be legitimate - i think people who dual boot just assume that everyone gets the menu
[20:28] <ikonia> !grub2  >der
[20:29] <ikonia> oops
[20:29] <GASSYPOOTS> ubuntu 11.10 and windows 7
[20:29] <ikonia> !grub2  > derpella
[20:29] <GASSYPOOTS> it auto boots ubuntu
[20:29] <KM0201> derpella: grub2 doesn't have menu.lst, grub2 is a lot different
[20:29] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: what boots when you start the machine
[20:29] <GASSYPOOTS> see above
[20:29] <ericus> Random832: press shift and the boot menu will appear...
[20:29] <GASSYPOOTS> tried that
[20:29] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: ok, so if you hold down shift when you boot it should appear
[20:29] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: ok, what happened ?
[20:29] <GASSYPOOTS> it boots like it does without it
[20:30] <derpella> oh.. it doesn't have a one file with all of those?
[20:30] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: ok, in that case boot into ubuntu and alter the "show menu" parameter in grub to force it to show the menu
[20:30] <Random832> anyway, is it even supported to install windows on top of ubuntu? won't windows wipe out grub?
[20:30] <GASSYPOOTS> ? in the ubuntu foldeR
[20:30] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: no, it's not a 5 minute task, but it's quite well documented,
[20:31] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: one moment I'll get you the info
[20:31] <KM0201> Random832: you can do it, but yes it will erase grub, but reinstalling grub will be fairly easy.. the bigger issue, is Windows seems to always want to take the whole drive w/o any input from you (at least in my experience)
[20:32] <pfifo> KM0201, you can specify the size of the partition, windows does support dual booting mutiple windows OS
[20:32] <KM0201> pfifo: i'lll take your word for it, i just remember this issue back in the day w/ XP
[20:33] <KM0201> if that is indeed the case, then all you'll need to do is reinstall grub, which is easy
[20:33] <GASSYPOOTS> bootmgr.exe.mui?
[20:33] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: if you look at the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:34] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: you should see GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[20:34] <imrobert> does anyone know how I can get a Windows recovery disk?
[20:35] <imrobert> so I can switch fully to Ubuntu and set up windows in a virtual box
[20:35] <KM0201> imrobert: did you nuke your recovery partition?
[20:35] <GASSYPOOTS> i dont have the cfg
[20:35] <imrobert> KM0201 what do you mean?
[20:35] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: is this a wubi install
[20:35] <GASSYPOOTS> yep
[20:35] <KM0201> imrobert: nevermind,  i see what you're asking.
[20:35] <ikonia> then I can't help you I'm afraid
[20:36] <GASSYPOOTS> wait a sec
[20:36] <KM0201> imrobert: since you have a legit copy of Windows (i'm assuming anyway)... get the key for it (use magic jelly been key finder)... then go to the internet, and try to find a torrent for the ISO file of your version of windows, use that ISO to install inside vbox, but use your key.
[20:36] <GASSYPOOTS> i got boot.img under boot
[20:36] <KM0201> another wubi victim..
[20:36]  * KM0201 sighs
[20:36] <imrobert> KM0201 thanks
[20:36] <GASSYPOOTS> under
[20:36] <GASSYPOOTS> filesystem/boot/grub
[20:37] <KM0201> imrobert: obviously, you'll be missing any extra software, etc. you have now.
[20:37] <pfifo> KM0201, thats what I said todo but I got yelled at from every angle
[20:37] <pfifo> :(
[20:37] <KM0201> pfifo: i don't know why... i've done that lots of times..
[20:37] <imrobert> KM0201 yeah I'm not worried about that
[20:37] <GASSYPOOTS> wait i have grub.cfg
[20:37] <KM0201> pfifo: it's not like your'e telling him to steal it.. he has a legit key, just has to download an ISO( which is perfectly legal)
[20:38] <ikonia> KM0201: pfifo is there a reason this is being discussed here ?
[20:38] <danielboston26> ##hamradio
[20:38] <pfifo> ikonia, cause i got yelled at and he didnt
[20:38] <ikonia> pfifo: ok - so maybe drop it then (please)
[20:38] <no-name-> how do you make nautilus stop ignoring chars such as '_' when sorting files/directories by name in the file manager?
[20:39] <KM0201> ikonia: i guess i just don't see the issue... i wasn't suggesting he steal windows, he has a legit key
[20:39] <Zaitzev> When I use find in terminal to look for one specific file, how do I write it so I automatically cd to the folder that file is in? (I want to make an alias for it)
[20:39] <GASSYPOOTS>   1
[20:39] <GASSYPOOTS>   2
[20:39] <GASSYPOOTS>   3
[20:39] <GASSYPOOTS>   4
[20:39] <GASSYPOOTS>   5
[20:39] <FloodBot1> GASSYPOOTS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <GASSYPOOTS>   6
[20:39] <ikonia> KM0201: I don't have an issue with people having a valid key
[20:39] <icedtea> hello, uname -r reports 3.0.0-16-generic, does that mean I'm using kernel 3.0.16
[20:40] <KM0201> ikonia: oh ok, well, thats the thing he had a key, he was asking how to get a disk so he can install inside vbox.
[20:40] <pfifo> icedtea, yes
[20:40] <ikonia> KM0201: the problem is picking up random images from the net doesn't mean it will work with the key, (many CD releases) best to contact microsoft for the correct cd to match his key
[20:40] <KM0201> ikonia: of course..
[20:40] <ssta> no-name-: nautilus sorts according to how LC_COLLATE tells it to.  Try setting LC_COLLATE to POSIX
[20:40] <imrobert> I think I'm going to make the leap now
[20:40] <GASSYPOOTS>  42
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[20:40] <GASSYPOOTS>  45
[20:40] <FloodBot1> GASSYPOOTS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <GASSYPOOTS>  46
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[20:40] <KM0201> ...
[20:41] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: stop that
[20:41] <ikonia> GASSYPOOTS: this is your final warning
[20:41] <KM0201> imrobert: how long have you used ubuntu?
[20:46] <elijah> how can I reset sudo so it asks for a password again? basically resetting the sudo timeout?
[20:46] <phpN00b> does Ubuntu support private folder with encryption?
[20:47] <ssta> elijah: -k
[20:47] <pfifo> phpN00b, there are more encryption utilities for ubuntu than you can count with all your fingers and toes
[20:48] <phpN00b> pfifo, but with good integration in nautilus/gnome3?
[20:48] <phpN00b> pfifo, I know there is truecrypt etc  but integration is also important
[20:48] <danielboston26> Elijah you need to reset for password
[20:48] <danielboston26> i think its pwd
[20:48] <danielboston26> no
[20:48] <pfifo> phpN00b, that i dont know, I only trust my data to cli utilities
[20:49] <ssta> danielboston26: no it's not.  sudo -k resets the timeout
[20:49] <ssta> danielboston26: pwd prints the current working directory...an entirely different functionality
[20:49] <danielboston26> ssta ah i misread his uestion
[20:49] <danielboston26> ssta right
[20:49] <danielboston26> i thought he wanted to reset the password
[20:50] <ssta> danielboston26: faie enough...although "pwd" still wouldn't be the way to do that :)
[20:50] <danielboston26> ssta right
[20:50] <danielboston26>  ssta this shows you how often i use the CL
[20:50] <danielboston26> i always end up looking up commands
[20:51] <danielboston26> passwd pwd close enough
[20:51] <danielboston26> lol
[20:53] <hardwired> 'llo
[20:53] <Goober> G00ber
[20:54] <WickedWiccan> question i have a samsung series 7 slate and I wanted to put ubuntu on it but I didn't see anywhere for an onscreen touch keyboard, any ideas how to get one?
[20:55] <hardwired> is there a way to remove all leave packages (i.e. those that are not dependencies) except a predefined list (i.e. those leave packages that I want to keep). FreeBSD has pkg_cutleaves for this, macports has the leaves target.
[20:55] <danielboston26> WickedWiccan not sure if there is one
[20:56] <WickedWiccan> well darn then whats the point of unity then :P i thought it was suppose to be more for "touch" screens
[20:56] <pfifo> WickedWiccan, there has to be one, let me ask google
[20:56] <ssta> WickedWiccan: I think that's where it's aiming...it's not there yet
[20:57] <reesk92> im having problems with flash for some reason when i go to use youtubes webcam upload feature the security window that asks if you wanna alow adobe to use the webcam pops up but freezes not letting you do anything is there anyway for me to remove flash compeatley from the system and reinstall it cause i tryes software center and syaptic and cant find it as being installed
[20:57] <reesk92> although it is installed
[20:57] <WickedWiccan> oh :-( darn I'm using windows 8 now and its nice but I miss my linux enviroment
[20:57] <[deXter]> Oh well. Guess its time to upgrade to 12.04. :)
[20:58] <WickedWiccan> i tried 12.04 still no touch screen keyboard either
[20:58] <pfifo> WickedWiccan, the name of the program is 'onboard'
[20:59] <pfifo> WickedWiccan, I have no idea how your going to start it, but /usr/bin/onboard is available by default since 7.10
[20:59] <WickedWiccan> thanks I am reading this howto guide on it
[21:00] <luser12> Hello all.  Anyone know how I would go about allowing a user to write to /proc/self/oom_adj (2.6.32 kernel)?  I've granted the user CAP_SYS_RESOURCE via /etc/security/capability.h but I still can't reduce the oom_adj score
[21:03] <tanath> can anyone explain this to me? http://pastebin.com/8Rt2sKq6
[21:05] <theadmin> tanath: Try "pkill deadbeef" next time. No idea why, but it seems to work better than "killall", for me at least.
[21:05] <tanath> theadmin, ok, but how could it be that it didn't see it running?
[21:06] <MadsRC> Did VI change in 11.10? The reason I'm asking is because it seems that VI's different on my Ubuntu 10.04 server, thant it is on my laptop 11.10
[21:07] <pfifo> tanath, i use killall -9 deadbeef myself
[21:07] <derpella> Hello... What should I change in menuentry to make the system boot without any wm turning on?
[21:07] <dougl> does starting classic gnome or unity have any effect on compiz effects?
[21:07] <tanath> pfifo, -9 usually isn't necessary... but i don't see how that would change anything in this case
[21:08] <tanath> pfifo, it was clearly running, but killall didn't see it at all
[21:08] <pfifo> tanath, well you eventually kill -9, -9 works with killall too, thats what i meant
[21:08] <tanath> pfifo, ah, yes. i knew that
[21:08] <tanath> pfifo, but kill is easier to type and i was targeting the pid since it seemed to be invisible to killall
[21:09] <pfifo> tanath, im pretty sure killall uses the same mechanism as pidof, I know thats not much help
[21:09] <tanath> has anyone seen this before?
[21:10] <phunyguy> hello folks, on my laptop, the wifi seems to slow to a chug, until i initiate a reconnect, then it works for a while at full speed, then drops to a crawl again (about 1mbit vs full g speed), the internal wifi is using the rtl8192ce module
[21:10] <derpella> I used this instruction: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Creating_the_Custom_Menu and I have file like this: http://pastebin.com/P7W6JLsL What should I write to make the system boot without any window manager?
[21:10] <phunyguy> sorry, meant that for +1
[21:12] <pfifo> derpella, you need to add 'text' to the kernel line in /etc/default/grub... the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT entry
[21:13] <pfifo> derpella, and then run sudo update-grub
[21:13] <derpella> pfifo: it does nothing
[21:13] <derpella> oh
[21:13] <derpella> :D
[21:13] <derpella> thanks
[21:13] <ena> hello
[21:13] <ena> i have a little problem with wine, can anybody help me ?
[21:13] <ena> (excuse my english please, i am french)
[21:13] <Guest74965> sup
[21:14] <hardwired> haha, french having problem with wine :-)
[21:14] <TeamColtra> Is there a way to just restore ubuntu back to default settings like a fresh install... without doing a new install? Basically: Remove all the programs, re-set all the settings, and make it a fresh clean version of Ubuntu?
[21:14] <waxstone> !fr
[21:14] <Deck`> if i use 9.04 with audacious 2.3 is there a way to update audacious from new ubuntu release?
[21:14] <theadmin> ena: This channel can pretty much only help if you have problems installing wine, see #winehq for actual app support
[21:14] <Wasser> hi people i'm a little desperate here. I'm using lvm. One of my volume groups (that only has one HD) can't mount. If I try to mount it manually it says mount: /dev/mapper/SHARED-srv already mounted or /srv busy. Of course there is nothing in /srv
[21:14] <ena> ok thanks everybody !
[21:14] <ena> hardwired : yes ! but only with "program" wine
[21:15] <hardwired> ena: bien sur :-)
[21:15] <ena> you missed an accent !!
[21:15] <ena> i joke :)
[21:15] <thiebaude> ena, salut,lol
[21:15] <thiebaude> :)
[21:15] <tanath> Deck`, give deadbeef a try
[21:16] <pfifo> !9.04 | Deck`
[21:16] <hardwired> ena: il n'y a pas des accents sur mon keyboard
[21:16] <ena> just for you
[21:16] <ena> ^
[21:17] <ena> copy/past it as much as you want
[21:17] <guntbert> !ot | hardwired
[21:17] <Deck`> pfifo sorry, i was wrong. 10.04 of course
[21:18] <hardwired> guntbert: yeah, whatever.
[21:18] <hardwired> bye.
[21:18] <pfifo> !ppa | Deck` in that case
[21:18] <Deck`> thanks
[21:19] <wilhart> what's wrong when nvidia flickers in my lcd tv second display ?!?!
[21:19] <wilhart> 've have had this problem about 2 years now
[21:20] <Viking667> What program views PDF documents?
[21:20] <pfifo> !info evince | Viking667
[21:20] <wilhart> ?
[21:20] <Viking667> hm. I seem to have a libevdocument and libevview installed that conflict with it
[21:21] <Viking667> Problem is, I've no idea what program USES those installed libraries
[21:21] <keith__> did the linux mint serverchange
[21:21] <techb> I am having trouble installing xchat on ubuntu 9.10
[21:22] <lampe2> hey i got problems with my ati graphicscard is the support for nvidia better?
[21:22] <pfifo> !eol | techb
[21:22] <tanath> Viking667, 'sudo apt-get remove libevdocument libevview' and see what it wants to remove
[21:23] <techb> would it say it couldn't find the package?
[21:23] <pfifo> lampe2, if you 'support yourself' both are pretty easy
[21:23] <ryan__> Hello. Does anybody know if the clock in the top panel automatically adjusts to Daylight Saving Time?
[21:23] <pfifo> ryan__, yes it will
[21:24] <ryan__> pfifo: DST begins at 2am doesn't it?
[21:24] <tanath> Viking667, evince uses them. pdf & misc document viewer
[21:24] <lampe2> pfifo, i got always problems with my ati 5770
[21:24] <pfifo> ryan__, for US easter time it does, i know that
[21:25] <ryan__> pfifo: Thanks!
[21:26] <Bodsda> TeamColtra: no, it shouldn't
[21:26] <pfifo> lampe2, for the first few months I had my nvidia, I had alot of trouble, but after I learned every detail of the software and hardware, it became a simple task to install/setup/configure
[21:26] <luisr> i got a question how can i run ubuntu 11.10 as smooth as possible on acer aspire one windows 7 starter
[21:28] <pfifo> luisr, by using the desktop livecd, its impossible to break, except maybe physically stepping on it
[21:28] <luisr> well im running it already but its a bit laggy
[21:29] <tanath> luisr, just how smooth you looking for? there are very lightweight desktop environments, but you'll lose features as you go more lightweight. icewm is very lightweight, but possibly too much so. i'd suggest xfce
[21:29] <tanath> luisr, you say 'as smooth as possible' but if you really wanted to you could do away with graphics altogether. i doubt that's what you want though
[21:30] <TeamColtra> Bodsda, why "shouldn't" it? It seems kinda silly to have to do a fresh install from CD/USB when it seems like it could be done from the computer itself. :P Smart Phones have "restore to factory default" why can't my OS?
[21:30] <lampe2> pfifo, but it should be easy to install for the every day user ;)
[21:30] <luisr> im running gnome classic and i like it it just lags sometimes when i run the software center
[21:30] <pfifo> luisr, you can use grub2's iso boot feature to boot it from the disk drive, thats a big speed up, if you have 2+GB of ram you can also use the 'toram' option to copy the iso to a ramdisk (this runs extremly fast)
[21:30] <tanath> luisr, try xfce
[21:30] <Bodsda> TeamColtra: see my pm :)
[21:31] <luisr> what is gub2's sorry im a noob
[21:31] <pfifo> lampe2, opening your computer and installing a high end video card is not something an everyday user would normally do
[21:31] <pfifo> !grub | luisr
[21:32] <tanath> luisr, install xfce, then log out and choose xfce as your login session
[21:33] <pfifo> lampe2, one thing I must point out though, is nvidia cards now have the new nouveau driver, and it is installed on ubuntu by default
[21:33] <luisr> would that interfere with windows if i still want to boot it
[21:34] <tanath> luisr, no
[21:34] <pfifo> luisr, your on a livecd, so installing xfce most likely will not work, if you want to try it, get the xubuntu livecd
[21:35] <tanath> well yeah, that's for after you install
[21:35] <tanath> though it actually can work fine on livecd
[21:35] <pfifo> all depends on how much memory you have to spare
[21:36] <Guinness2702> So, I moved my server to my new flat last weekend, all went well.  A couple of days later, my server just died - don't know why, but it did.  It will boot, as far as getting just a flashing cursor on a blank screen.  I can boot an ubuntu CD as far as the menu, but when I select either "run" or "install" it does the same thing with the cursor.  The drive is okay, I plugged it into another box and fsck'd it - all okay.  A
[21:36] <Guinness2702> nybody have any idea what might be happening?
[21:37] <pfifo> Guinness2702, try running memcheck86
[21:38] <Guinness2702> pfifo - oh yeah, forgot to say, I also was able to run memcheck off the disk, and let it do the first couple of passes with no trouble
[21:38] <gridbag> how do I find the package that contains GL/glx.h for compiling?  In the Ubuntu Software Center, no "OpenGL" packages show up.
[21:39] <pfifo> Guinness2702, start removing hardware until it can boot a livecd/usb
[21:39] <pfifo> gridbag, the program 'apt-file' can do that
[21:39] <Guinness2702> pfifo - the only thing removable is memory and cpu, unless you want me to dig out the soldering iron :\
[21:40] <_Brun0_> I installed ubuntu minimal install with alternate CD + i3 tiling window manager.  how can I set x background image?
[21:40] <Guinness2702> pfifo - it's a little mini-ITX system I use as a server - it's practially all in one
[21:40] <pfifo> Guinness2702, can it boot another operating system?
[21:40] <ironfoot495> Hi I'm having trouble install webmin on a ubuntu 10.04 server.
[21:41] <Guinness2702> pfifo, not got any to hand :\
[21:41] <Guinness2702> I guess I could drum up a windoze disk from somewhere....maybe
[21:41] <pfifo> !webmin | ironfoot495
[21:42] <pfifo> Guinness2702, your problem is a tough one to solve, im out of ideas
[21:43] <ironfoot495> is there another option to webmin
[21:43] <Kireji> how can I apt-get to determine if there are packages that need to be updated?  it appears the -u switch is supposed to do this, but it doesn't do what I expect
[21:43] <waxstone> pfif: what is ubuntu's substisute for webmin?
[21:43] <Guinness2702> pfifo - yeah, me too :(  The only think I can think of is that it's a little warm in this new place, and it's a fanless system, but I don't get why it can run memtest or the ubuntu live cd menu, and then not boot :\
[21:43] <Guinness2702> pfifo - if it was fried, i wouldn't expect it to be so selective
[21:44] <pfifo> waxstone, ironfoot495, ubuntu isnt the ideal server OS imo, go with fedora if you want webmin
[21:44] <waxstone> pfifo: isnt fedora still debian?
[21:44] <MaWaLe> pfifo:  i think that the best server may be the Debian one
[21:44] <ironfoot495> pfifo: thanks for the info
[21:44] <pfifo> waxstone, no
[21:44] <ikonia> waxstone: you sould not use webmin on any os
[21:45] <pfifo> waxstone, i have to agree with ikonia there, configure by hand to get best results
[21:45] <MaWaLe> fedora is a community project so for a production server, maybe the RHES will be more advised
[21:45] <waxstone> ikonia: what is the best free option to replace webmin?
[21:45] <ikonia> waxstone: my personal opinion is that you shouldn't be using web based management tools to manage a server.
[21:45] <MaWaLe> fedora is the community edition for Red Hat
[21:45] <ironfoot495> so can you use waxstone with ubuntu?
[21:46] <waxstone> ok
[21:46] <ikonia> you can use tools such as ebox, but the concept of a website to manage your server does not sit well with me
[21:46] <MaWaLe> ikonia:  +1 the best way to administer a server would be the SSH one
[21:46] <ironfoot495> or what is compatible with ubuntu?
[21:47] <luisr> hello does anybody know how to connect to xbox live with ubuntu 11.10
[21:47] <pfifo> MaWaLe, really i go with centos opposed to fedora, but the difference isnt that noticable
[21:47] <iceroot> waxstone: the best replacement for a web-based administration tool is a real unix-admin
[21:48] <ikonia> luisr: what do you mean xbox live - xbox live is a service for the xbox
[21:48] <luisr> like a bridge connection
[21:48] <waxstone> iceroot: yeah I guess you guys are right. Webmin exists for resellers and admin neubs
[21:48] <iceroot> !webmin
[21:48] <ikonia> luisr: what is your end goal
[21:48] <iceroot> waxstone: webmin is evil and may break your system
[21:48] <luisr> to be albe to connect my xbox to xbox live
[21:48] <MaWaLe> pfifo:  i think that the best way to describe the difference is to say that it is like the freeze and volatile package in the debian project
[21:49] <iceroot> !ics | luisr
[21:49] <ikonia> luisr: so you want to use your machine as a proxy
[21:49] <luisr> yes
[21:49] <trism> _Brun0_: you could install feh and use: feh --bg-scale /path/to/image
[21:49] <ikonia> luisr: check out the link iceroot gave you via ubottu
[21:50] <MaWaLe> pfifo:  so the RHES and the CentOS are more mature then Fedora (which i think is a "prototype" ;) )
[21:50] <ironm> hello :) Please allow me one question. I am going to install ubuntu 11.10 (server) on an SSD drive. Is there any recomendation for the appriopriate filesystem?
[21:50] <iceroot> ironm: ext4 (the default)
[21:50] <ikonia> MaWaLe: no
[21:50] <ikonia> MaWaLe: they are nothing linked
[21:50] <ironm> thank you iceroot
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ironm: SSD in a server? strange. I hope you have a platter based storage for your data
[21:51] <_Brun0_> trism, ty
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ironm: do you have a platter based drive for data storage too?
[21:51] <ironm> ActionParsnip: it is just for short testing and creating some ubuntu live images. I am not really going to use a server with SSD (in ling term) n
[21:51] <MadsRC> Since when can't you use the arrow keys in VI when in interactive mode?
[21:51] <ironm> in long term ..
[21:52] <ironm> is there ubunut 12.x alpha server image available?
[21:52] <ikonia> ironm: read the topic in #ubuntu+1 channel
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> ironm: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise stuff
[21:53] <pfifo> Hi ActionParsnip
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> hi pfifo
[21:53] <ironm> thank you ikonia :)
[21:53] <Guinness2702> pfifo, okay, I got a win95 install disk booting now, so my guess is h/ware is okay
[21:54] <pfifo> Guinness2702, thats strange that it wouldnt atleast bott the ubuntu livecd then
[21:54] <pfifo> Guinness2702, do you have a high end video card by chance?
[21:54] <Guinness2702> pfifo, it will boot as far as the menu, but not the OS
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Guinness2702: what video chip do you use
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest35143: do you get a black screen when you boot?
[21:55] <Guinness2702> pfifo - quite the opposite, it's a low power mini-itx system - and anyway, it's been working for the last year - just suddenly died
[21:55] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, not entirely sure, but nothing hi-spec
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Guinness2702: does the system have a make and model?
[21:57] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, it's an aleutia system
[21:57] <luisr> thanks trying to figure it out
[21:58] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, http://aleutia.com/products/all-products/tango-fanless-silent-pc  I believe
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Guinness2702: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[21:59] <diverdude> How can i see what graphics drivers are currently in use?
[21:59] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, it's actually exactly that one, but that is the current equivalent
[21:59] <pfifo> they charge L15.00 to install ubuntu? man im in the wrong business
[21:59] <nick_h> where does upstart keep track of PIDs?
[22:00] <pfifo> diverdude, lsmod should show all loaded graphics drivers
[22:00] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, k - just out of interest, do you know how I can get to boot options from a standard ubuntu install?  (I could try the CD instead)
[22:00] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, hmm, interesting - the win95 has got as far as "setup is starting windows" and hanging
[22:00] <diverdude> pfifo: that just show some list of modules
[22:01] <pfifo> Guinness2702, hold shift while booting, then press 'e' at the grub menu
[22:01] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, could it be that the gfx card is fried in GUI modes
[22:01] <Guinness2702> pfifo, k, thx, I'll try it
[22:01] <pfifo> diverdude, yes, and the module for your graphics chip should be listed in those modules
[22:02] <diverdude> pfifo: under the modulename: video?
[22:02] <amazingrando> installing from alt or minimal my nics work until the installer downloads the initial files, then it turns off the nic so i can't continue installing
[22:03] <amazingrando> tried noapci option, but didn't help
[22:03] <amazingrando> ideas?
[22:03] <amazingrando> installing from live CD works fine
[22:03] <amazingrando> but I'm trying to install on a 4gb flash drive
[22:03] <pfifo> amazingrando, bring them back up manually?
[22:03] <diverdude> pfifo: your method is not working. no drivers are listed
[22:04] <Guinness2702> ActionParsnip, do I need nomodeset on a line of its own, or as a parameter to one of the other lines?
[22:04] <amazingrando> i tried that - going to another console.  but it tells me there's no ifup and stuff
[22:04] <pfifo> Guinness2702, on the line starting with 'linux'
[22:04] <Guinness2702> pfifo, k, that's where i went wrong :)
[22:04] <droptone> I have a question. I have full disk encryption with LUKS installed on my Ubuntu 11.10 machine. Evidently, yesterday, while performing the automatic update with the update manager in unity, it upgraded my kernel, and when I boot off the new kernel, it can't load my LUKS encrypted drive, and I get this default innitramfs shell. I'm forced to load the old kernel via grub.
[22:04] <Guido1> Hello, I have some probl;ems with a windows computer but i found a way to path this problem by another computer. sadly i don't find a way to pas this problem with linux
[22:05] <droptone> The new kernel is 3.0.0-16-generic, and the old one, which loads fine, is 3.0.0-12 generic.
[22:05] <pfifo> amazingrando, there are 2 program that are commonly used to setup network, 'ip' and 'ifconfig' you should have one or both
[22:05] <diverdude> pfifo: fyi: jockey-text -l is the correct command
[22:06] <amazingrando> let me start and get to that point and then i'll tell you what it says
[22:06] <Guido1> does anyone know something about setting a domain and adding a network printer - not automaticaly found by ubuntu?
[22:06] <Guinness2702> pfifo, okay, I also took out quiet - it got as far as "new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd"
[22:07] <pfifo> droptone, you need to rebuild your initramfs with the new kernel running
[22:07] <Viking667> sigh.
[22:07] <Guinness2702> pfifo, I'm thinking something to do with gfx mode though, as win95 install booted until it tried to start win (presumably GUI mode, previously was the text intro)
[22:07] <pfifo> droptone, and the drive mounted of course
[22:08] <savva_> 123
[22:08] <droptone> pfifo: how do I go about doing that? When I boot from the new kernel, it won't let me mount the drive, I don't get the prompt to enter the password to mount the volume.
[22:08] <droptone> I appreciate the help.
[22:08] <pfifo> droptone, manually setup thee drive from the initramfs
[22:08] <droptone> and is this something that is standard, somthing I would have to do every time I perform a kernel upgrade with a LUKS-encrypted drive?
[22:09] <pfifo> droptone, initramfs is custom made for the kernel, so yes
[22:09] <luisr> guys i got this dchp failed when i log off how do i fix it
[22:09] <Guido1> I have some probl;ems with a windows computer but i found a way to path this problem by another computer. sadly i don't find a way to pas this problem with linux. does anyone know something about setting a domain and adding a network printer - not automaticaly found by ubuntu?
[22:10] <droptone> gotcha. So currently, I'm booted into the old 3.0.0-12-generic kernel, since I can't boot into the new one, except into an initramfs shell.
[22:10] <pfifo> droptone, are you at a different computer than the one your working on?
[22:11] <droptone> Should I boot into that shell?
[22:11] <droptone> pfifo: no, I'm on this computer.
[22:11] <droptone> I can get on another one if needed.
[22:11] <droptone> Here, I'm migrating to another computer now. 10 seconds.
[22:11] <droptone> thank you again for the assistance.
[22:12] <ironm> one question more: can I use a 256GB SSD as follows: 1-st partition (120GB) for 11.10 and the 2-nd partition (120GB) for 12.04? The rest (16GB) as shared swap area? .. the system has already 16GB RAM and shouldn't swap (at least I hope so ;)
[22:12] <luisr> im getting this chcp fail when i shut down laptop how can i fix it or remove it
[22:12] <Bodsda> ironm: sure
[22:12] <BluesKaj> ironm,  no swap needed there
[22:12] <luisr> dhcp sorry
[22:12] <humancomp> ironm you can use it i bought i hybrid ssd disk and i used
[22:13] <ironm> thank you Bodsda BluesKaj  and humancomp
[22:13] <droptone> pfifo: On a different machine now. What is the recommended procedure?
[22:13] <pfifo> droptone, I take it that you root is encrypted, otherwise booting would still work
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> ironm: I wouldn't put swap on an SSD
[22:13] <droptone> pfifo: that's right, / and swap are in two LVM volumes, both of which are in the encrypted container.
[22:14] <droptone> I don't have any other volumes or partitions, like /boot, just / and swap.
[22:14] <droptone> and they're all within the LUKS-encrypted volume.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ironm: If you are using it as a server, I'd install a platter based drive to store the user data, databases, mailserver database etc and have /var and swap on that
[22:14] <pfifo> droptone, boot your computer with the new kernel, you should get the initramfs prompt
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ironm: and obviously put the browser webcache in tempfs :)
[22:15] <BlueWolf> And when I copy a 1.2GB movie from my hard disk to my flash it starts off at 29Mbps copy rate and then rapidly drops to 918Kbps. When I copy from hard disk to hard disk is copys at about 30Mbps, why is their rhis problem?
[22:15] <ironm> ActionParsnip: I have to see how I can do it ... (put all the variable stuff in tmpfs)
[22:15] <droptone> pfifo: doing that now
[22:15] <pfifo> BlueWolf, the cache can fill quickly, but the actual write to the disk is slow
[22:16] <humancomp> BlueWolf: First part is write cache of usb system and so fast.. second is your usb real speed
[22:16] <BlueWolf> pfifo: What the solution?
[22:16] <pfifo> BlueWolf, there isnt one, aside from getting faster/better hardware
[22:17] <droptone> pfifo: I'm at the initramfs prompt.
[22:17] <BlueWolf> humancomp: Sorry could you explain in a simpler form ? :D
[22:17] <humancomp> Bluewolf, pfifo is right
[22:17] <luisr> i get ip address error when trying to connect to xbox live using lap top as internet source please help
[22:18] <pfifo> droptone, once your there, you need to issue a command similiar to this `cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXY mapdevice` where XY is your partition and mapdevice is the name you use in /dev/mapper/
[22:19] <ironm> ActionParsnip: do you use such configuration already? ... [23:14:17] <ActionParsnip> ironm: If you are using it as a server, I'd install a platter based drive to store the user data, databases, mailserver database etc and have /var and swap on that
[22:19] <droptone> ok, and if I don't have the XY partiton the mapdevice info, should I reboot into the old kernel and get that information?
[22:19] <humancomp> BlueWolf: System filling write cache quickly and waiting transfer process for this filled cache to your usb driver..
[22:19] <BlueWolf> pfifo: humancomp: I have a good machine capable of copying fast. Core i3 2.95Ghz processor, 2Gb Ram DDR3. 240GT Nividia graphic card
[22:19] <BlueWolf> Right?
[22:20] <pfifo> droptone, yeah, if you dont know it, reboot and take a note of the info in /etc/crypttab
[22:20] <Bodsda> BlueWolf: Those things wont effect usb write speed
[22:20] <humancomp> Bluewolf: when you transfer smaller file to usb like 20 mb you can see usb drive blinking after closing copy dialog.. because its still writing 900Kbps.
[22:20] <droptone> pfifo: don't that now, thank you.
[22:21] <pfifo> droptone, maybe just pastebin /etc/crypttab so i can fill in the command for you
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> ironm: that's how i'd set it up if I was setting up a sever using SSD for sure. I have a server but its al on a playyer based drive presently
[22:22] <luisr> i get dhcp failed when i shut down laptop how can  i fix this
[22:22] <humancomp> droptone: if you want to work with different version of kernel. you have spare your hard disk manually like /boot /home  and /
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: how would the video hardware impact the copying process?
[22:22] <ironm> thank you for your kind hints ActionParsnip :)
[22:22] <Guinness2702> Hey guys, so I'm getting further - It now gets as far as about 1.7 seconds into kernel/boot before hanging.  Is there any way I can stop it from trying to do anything to the video mode/setting?
[22:23] <humancomp> ActionParsnip: you can watch soo fast :D
[22:23] <BlueWolf> humancomp: Ok I am getting a bit confused, Why is the usb coping speed slow and what is the reason for it being slow. Is it ubuntu.  My ram does about 40% use.
[22:24] <humancomp> all datas not transfering usb drive directly.
[22:24] <droptone> humancomp: I do have /boot in a separate, unencrypted partition, sorry.
[22:24] <droptone> sorry for confusion that is.
[22:24] <droptone> but / and swap are in LVM volumes within a luks encrypted container.
[22:24] <Guido1> I have some problems with a windows computer but i found a way to path this problem by another computer. sadly i don't find a way to pas this problem with LINUX. does anyone know something about setting a domain and adding a network printer - not automaticaly found by UBUNTU 10.04?
[22:25] <droptone> pfifo: generating a pastebin link, one sec.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> humancomp: heheh
[22:25] <darthness>  dear users, can anyone help me with the no wubidr problem?
[22:25] <BlueWolf>
[22:25] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: You never know a miracle can happen. I always name those three. even if they don't do much, :D
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: do you have latest BIOS?
[22:26] <darthness> just installed ubuntu, using the default bootloader, and it loads. but only after a long while
[22:26] <darthness> tryed editing grub.cfg, didnt work
[22:27] <luisr> hello im getting dhcp fail when i shut down my laptop how can i fix this
[22:27] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: I don't think so as I am using 10.04. Can it still get the new BIOS, how would I check?
[22:28] <luisr> anybody help
[22:29] <humancomp> luisr: what is your dhcp server? Linux or Windows or a modem ?
[22:29] <luisr> im a noob to all this im on ubuntu 11.10
[22:30] <waxstone> darthness, try update-grub
[22:30] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: This copy rate is ridiculous, it normaly goes at 10Mbps minimum and now it's going at 625Kbps what wrong with this silly computer!!! ? :D
[22:30] <darthness> thnx waxstone
[22:31] <pfifo> droptone, ok once your at the initramfs, `cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt` then you press ctrl-d to exit the initramfs shell and hopefully it will boot
[22:31]  * pfifo crosses fingers
[22:31] <humancomp> BlueWolf: ok i tried to explain HDD => 30 Mbps =>RAM => 625Kbps => USB Drive.
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: manufacturers site will have the bios, you may need a windows OS to install it
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: try switching the USB to legacy mode
[22:32] <droptone> ok, trying that now, will let you know shortly.
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: does the system have a make and model?
[22:32] <gnarlin> Hello. I'm having problems with mplayer and libcdio_paranoia.so.0. Could someone help me?
[22:32] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, I have make but "model: command not found"
[22:33] <BlueWolf>
[22:33] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Flash or computer? :D
[22:33] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Where would I check?
[22:33] <Whiskey> anyone good on bash scripting
[22:33] <pfifo> Whiskey, the guys in #bash
[22:33] <Whiskey> them won´t help
[22:34] <Whiskey> allrdy try
[22:34] <pfifo> Whiskey, #friendly-coders
[22:34] <gnarlin> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 beta. When I run mplayer it complains that:  mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Could someone help?
[22:34] <pfifo> !12.04 | gnarlin
[22:34] <droptone> pfifo: that totaly did it, thank you greatly.
[22:34] <pfifo> droptone, wait
[22:34] <pfifo> droptone, were not done
[22:34] <gnarlin> ok, thx
[22:35] <droptone> no problem, what next?
[22:35] <Kireji> how can I apt-get to determine if there are packages that need to be updated?  it appears the -u switch is supposed to do this, but it doesn't do what I expect
[22:35] <BlueWolf>
[22:35] <BlueWolf> humancomp: Got it. :D
[22:35] <Kireji> or any command line program to tell me how many packages apt things I need to upgrade
[22:35] <ken>  I was wondering if someone could help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/878148/
[22:35] <Whiskey> http://codepad.org/KI9jochP <--- anyone knows how to avoid those two loops to accept return?
[22:35] <pfifo> droptone, you need to run `sudo update-initramfs` to build a custom initramfs, then it should work when you reboot
[22:36] <droptone> pfifo: just run that command by itself? no parameters?
[22:36] <pfifo> droptone, thats right, build a new one from scratch
[22:37] <pfifo> droptone, `sudo update-initramfs -c`
[22:37] <droptone> when I run sudo update-initramfs, it says usage: /usr/sbin/update-initramfs [OPTION], and gives me a list of paremeters.
[22:37] <droptone> ahh, ok
[22:37] <droptone> trying that now.
[22:37] <BlueWolf> humancomp: It's just, why is it copying so slow now. Before it was doing it at 10Mbps or more onto my flash. So what's the problem?
[22:37] <culpn8r> whenever i download files from the internet using firefox, they do not show up on my desktop, but when i do an ls from the terminal i see them
[22:37] <droptone> ok, it says "create mode requires a version argument"
[22:38] <droptone> when I use -c.
[22:38] <ericus> Why does hdparm only show ~470MB/s now, and some weeks ago ~520MB/s with my SSD?
[22:38] <pfifo> droptone, try `sudo mkinitramfs` instead
[22:38] <droptone> ok
[22:38] <ericus> and the access times has increased from 2ms > 3ms
[22:38] <ken>  I was wondering if someone could help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/878148/
[22:38] <droptone> it says it requires a paremeter too
[22:39] <droptone> requiring "outfile" with -o.
[22:39] <culpn8r> why are my downloaded files hidden? (but i can see them from the terminal)
[22:39] <muelli> culpn8r: do "nautilus ." in the terminal then to get a file manager in that directory
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> culpn8r: are they in hidden folders?
[22:39] <waxstone> culpn8r, do the files begin with a .?
[22:39] <muelli> culpn8r: you can do "pwd" to get your current working directory as well.
[22:40] <culpn8r> if i hit ctrl-h in the file manager i cant see them either
[22:40] <culpn8r> the only time i can see them is when i type ls in the terminal
[22:40] <gvo> Ken apt-get install debian-archive-keyring
[22:40] <pfifo> droptone, what is the output of uname -r
[22:40] <gvo> apt-get update
[22:40] <droptone> 3.0.0-16-generic
[22:40] <BlueWolf> humancomp: ?
[22:40] <culpn8r> waxstone, no they do not. its just a jpg
[22:40] <ken> gvo: ok
[22:40] <gvo> Ken or whatever keyring for your distro.