 I usually use RosaImageWriter (re @IrcsomeBot: <Dragnslcr> How are you writing the installer image to the USB stick?)
[06:07] <newformat> Русские есть?))
[06:07] <newformat> Rus
 How to clone my kubuntu os to ssd from hdd
 Is there a app for it ?
[10:08] <Daulity> hey all
[10:09] <Daulity> question my kubuntu install doesn't remember the display configuration after a reboot
[10:09] <Daulity> like the arangement is gone  and which is the primary monitor
[10:47] <Daulity> and also i know have an issue with dolphin where it used to work to connect through sftp to a device now it says invalid protocol
[10:47] <Daulity> i have several location stored too
[10:47] <Daulity> none of them work
[11:18] <Dragnslcr> ADHIVP - I've usually Clonezilla for duplicating hard drives. It works quite well.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Does it clone the complete drive all data or does it leave behind some (re @IrcsomeBot: <Dragnslcr> ADHIVP - I've usually Clonezilla for duplicating hard drives. It works quite well.)
 Do via terminal " sudo cp .iso / dev sdx " where sdx= usb pendrive
 Usb pendrive should be in unmounted state
 Forwarded from Tshering1980: Ubuntu as well as Kubuntu ISO's are iso-hybrid images. So you can use the terminal command : sudo cp debian.iso /dev/sdX && sync " for making the bootable usb - source https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.en.html
 sdX maybe sdb, ssc, sdc - look up partition manager - the generic name given to the pendrive
 sdX maybe sdb, sdc, sdd - look up partition manager - the generic name given to the pendrive
[17:47] <logilype> i need help with kde stuttering on nvidia
[17:52] <logilype> anyone here?
[17:54] <logilype> hmm
[19:03] <logilype> anyone there
 Yeah go on
[20:48] <user|41> unable to access lan with kubuntu but can with mint, fairly new to linux but some knowledge, can anyone offer a solutionn
[20:49] <user|41> I am using mint at the moment
[20:49] <jabbadahutt69420> Wassup
[20:51] <user|41> unable to access lan with kubuntu but can with mint, fairly new to linux but some knowledge, can anyone offer a solutionn
[20:52] <user|41> also I can't connect to internet, using iphone, and lan at the same time
[21:41] <user|41> unable to access lan with kubuntu but can with mint, fairly new to linux but some knowledge, can anyone offer a solutionn
[21:43] <john> what happens if you push the network icon in the plasma surface?
[21:43] <john> do you see interfaces?
[21:43] <john> did you turn on networking?
[21:49] <user|41> I am running mint, I would like to replace with kubuntu, so trialling with live, usb setup. I have a few WD drives connected, work fine using mint, but there is a problen when using kubuntu.  The other thing is I am unable to acces both, lan and internet, internet is via an iphone.
[21:55] <oerheks> there is not much we can do, install kubuntu, lan should work OOTB, as it does with mint
[21:55] <oerheks> and disconnect those 'few WD drives' until you have internet
[21:56] <user|41> I do not want internet via the router, just using it to connect local drives, thanks anyway
[21:58] <oerheks> step 1; install, live mode can give an other experience
[22:01] <user|41> If I understand you correctly you are saying install rather than use live usb should have it working


[02:26] <LyTeHome> hi Xubuntu
[02:26] <LyTeHome> ANyone here?
[02:26] <LyTeHome> Hello/
[02:27] <LyTeHome> ??/
[02:28] <psycho_oreos> patience is a virtue
[02:28] <LyTeHome> yes yes
[02:28] <LyTeHome> Why is my xubuntu running slow
[02:28] <LyTeHome> 512 ram
[02:28] <LyTeHome> 2.1 ghz single core
[02:29] <psycho_oreos> the RAM might be the issue here
[02:29] <LyTeHome> nope
[02:29] <LyTeHome> Its a clean install
[02:29] <LyTeHome> install is just slow
[02:29] <LyTeHome> Psycho is Kubuntu your main OS/
[02:29] <psycho_oreos> no
[02:31] <LyTeHome> Why is this room dead
[02:31] <LyTeHome> No one uses the distro?
[02:32] <psycho_oreos> people have day to day lives to commit, they're not glued to the computer screen 24x7
[03:15] <starn> Hello, i am wondering if it's possible to unplug an internal hard drive after telling linux to unmount it.. than pluging another one in and tell linux to mount it kinda like with external..  reason i ask is i only have one cord for data.. and it has two power cords for them and they're both powered just one has no data cord..
[03:17] <NyLes> ok, i have a problem with ubuntu not recognizing my sound card (aplay -l) so i tried linuxmint9, they have the same issue.. after clicking the volume icont, i received a prompt saying; GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStremer packages maybe missing. It may also be a permissions problem. so can anyone tell me how will i do that permission thing with ubuntu?
[04:07] <brianp1992> and im back
[07:39] <uofm49426> small hardware question xubuntu
[07:39] <uofm49426> tv and nvidia driving me crazy
[07:40] <uofm49426> overscanning
[07:41] <uofm49426> is ati a little better in his aspect
[07:41] <uofm49426> is ati a little better in this aspect
[07:42] <uofm49426> i can only use 1280x720 or 1080p
[07:43] <uofm49426> over hdmi
[07:43] <Sysi> new atis can be huge pain, nvidia should work nicely when you use driver from "Additional drivers" and nvidia's own settings
[07:43] <Sysi> it's possible that your TV only supports those resolutions
[07:44] <uofm49426> using vga i can use more
[07:45] <Sysi> still
[07:46] <Sysi> those are hd-ready and fullhd standards
[07:46] <uofm49426> but at 1080p it to small from were im sitting and 1280x 720 is to big sweet spot is around 1440 by 900
[07:47] <uofm49426> but the linux verson i cant get there windows i can
[07:49] <uofm49426> i was reading about a edid bug with nvidia
[07:51] <Sysi> driver bug totally is possible, you could maybe work around that problem by creating xorg.conf
[07:58] <uofm49426> scaling dont even work in the driver
[07:59] <uofm49426> im may need to just say o well and use vga
[08:03] <uofm49426> the only thing with that i vga mode the tv can keep up with the resolution changes and i have to turn tv on and off to refress it or ill have a half inch black line at the bottem and panel will be hidden
[08:24] <arez> just installed xubuntu...
[08:24] <arez> 11.10
[08:25] <arez> feels a little unstable
[08:26] <arez> would not using nvidia drivers make a mouse hang up every few seconds?
[08:26] <Sysi> possibly
[08:27] <arez> nvidia drivers are not activated
[08:27] <arez> maybe i´l l try that too
[08:27] <arez> also, my frickin keymap is screwed up...
[09:12] <mariobuntu> mahlzeit.
[10:08] <TheNocturnalist> so i just installed xubuntu oneiric, i am attempting to use jockey to install the nvidia driver.... but it's been going for quite a while, i cannot tell whether or not it is doing anything... any suggestions?
[10:13] <TheNocturnalist> nevermind, i killed it. i believe my ralink wireless adapter is not working well, for some freaking reason.
[10:14] <ronsonol> Is jockey what comes up on Settings > Additional Drivers?
[10:17] <ronsonol> nevermind, just answered my question running it while watching top.  It is.
[10:56] <Os_Maleus> hello together!
[10:56] <Os_Maleus>  have a Nexus i9250 and running xubuntu with xfce on my PC. until now, I didn't manage to find out how to connect the both over the USB-cable. does anybody know how it is possible to mount it? it is listed under lsusb. but that was it. no icon on the desktop available.
[10:58] <Starn> hey, i recently got a new computer from a friend and i am kinda wondering if wintv card can be used in ubuntu/xubuntu..
[11:04] <well_laid_lawn> Starn: I use one with me-tv
[11:04] <Starn> what's that?
[11:04] <well_laid_lawn> !info me-tv
[11:05] <well_laid_lawn> it is a live tv viewer with an epg guide and scheduled recordings
[11:05] <well_laid_lawn> + other stuff
[11:06] <Starn> alright i shall check it out sounds amazing! i don't even know what to use on windows lol but windows just finished updating so i am gonna setup bootmanger to allow me to load xubuntu.. my issue is it's been a long time since i've done that and i don't fully remember how to do so in easyBCD.
[11:06] <jadoe> I have a strange problem with with dead keys: I set the keyboard layout to "German eliminate dead keys" in the xfce settings. Works like it is supposed to, at first. Pressing ^ brings ^. I use a KVM Switch. When I switch to the other PC and back, pressing ^ brings deadcircumflex instead of ^. What is going on?
[11:08] <Starn> well_laid_lawn: i shall be right back. i'm rebooting. probably take a bit.
[11:08] <well_laid_lawn> k
[11:10] <well_laid_lawn> jadoe: when you switch the kvm over a new keyboard is getting recognised would be my guess
[11:11] <well_laid_lawn> if I did that sort of thing regularly I would put a shortcut in the panel to switch keyboard types
[11:13] <starn> ok.. well_laid_lawn what was the name again? me-tv?
[11:14] <well_laid_lawn> yeppers
[11:14] <well_laid_lawn> !info me-tv
[11:15] <starn> oh i have a random question.. how come ubuntu/xubuntu and like systems can run off of any machine even if it is not the same hardware it was installed on?
[11:15] <well_laid_lawn> there's no one trying to make money off it so you can do what you like with it
[11:16] <well_laid_lawn> it's free
[11:16] <starn> like i installed it on an decently fast usb hard drive and it's able to boot up on any machine even though it's not been installed on it..
[11:16] <starn> weird.
[11:16] <starn> free= better haha
[11:16] <starn> also is it true that 32bit doesnt display 4gb but still uses?
[11:17] <well_laid_lawn> afaik it only uses what it sees and reports
[11:18] <starn> dang i need to update to 64bit than.. ok.. well_laid_lawn does any antana work with this tvcard? kinda like how any works with my lil box to convert digital to analog?
[11:19] <well_laid_lawn> I've used both analog and digital antennas to get free to air tv with mine
[11:20] <well_laid_lawn> if the antenna can find the digital stations me-tv will
[11:20] <starn> alright i shall be right back grabing my old antana that i don't use.. if it works it's being used haha
[11:21] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[11:29] <starn> holy crap the tv thingy startled me..... well it works!
[11:33] <starn> umm... well_laid_lawn i feel really stupid.. but how do i change channels?
[11:33] <starn> personally not to thrilled with some home improvment show.
[11:34] <well_laid_lawn> the channels should be on the left side of the epg
[11:36] <starn> i don't see it.
[11:36] <well_laid_lawn> have you moved the epg to see what's on later?
[11:37] <starn> no?? i don't even know what epg is.
[11:38] <well_laid_lawn> elctronic program guide
[11:38] <starn> i see record button vol epg event search? sheduled recordings fullscreen  name of show and stations... than two arrows <-  and two arrows ->   than top i see file view video audio help
[11:40] <well_laid_lawn> this is a shot from the net - http://www.mpeg4ireland.com/img/metv.jpg - channels on the left
[11:41] <starn> whaaaaa i don't have that!
[11:42] <well_laid_lawn> you can toggle seeing the epg from the menu
[11:42] <starn> doesn't show what you had
[11:43] <well_laid_lawn> any buttons with station names?
[11:43] <starn> no.
[11:44] <well_laid_lawn> if you have live tv and showing the epg selected from the menu you should have at least one station showing in the epg
[11:44] <well_laid_lawn> should is relative tho
[11:44] <starn> yeah.. it's live tv.. checked with tv..
[11:45] <starn> i'm gonna rescan the channels.
[11:48] <starn> it finds six channels... but i can't seem to switch to them...
[11:48] <starn> does it matter i am in USA and we only have digital?
[11:50] <well_laid_lawn> it doesn't do cable afaik but I could be wrong
[11:50] <starn> we don't have cable.
[11:50] <well_laid_lawn> but if it finds six channels there should be six in the epg
[11:50] <starn> but all our signals here are digital forced by the government.
[11:51] <well_laid_lawn> I use digital channels here
[11:51] <well_laid_lawn> post a screenshot
[11:51] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[11:51] <starn> would you like me to show nvm you just asked lol
[11:51] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[11:53] <starn> well good news i just learned a lot about housing and roofing and stuff... and sealing it for weather.. haha also uploaded one second
[11:53] <starn> nvm says image to larg.
[11:54] <puchu> hello?
[11:55] <puchu> anybody  here?
[11:57] <starn> well_laid_lawn: http://imagebin.org/200876
[11:57] <baizon> !ask
[12:00] <well_laid_lawn> starn: you should be able to click on    view    in the menu and select to show the epg
[12:01] <starn> there is no "show the epg".
[12:03] <starn> well_laid_lawn: there is change view.. which only removes the buttons you see.. scheduled recording, auto record, epg event search, channels (which allows me to scan for more), preferences.
[12:03] <well_laid_lawn> hang on I'll go fire my comp up that runs me-tv
[12:03] <well_laid_lawn> k
[12:04] <puchu> How can i set a keyboard shortcut for restart x server in Xubuntu 11.10?
[12:05] <puchu> restart JUST the x server, not the entire session
[12:05] <Sysi> restarting X will restart/kill all GUI apps anyway
[12:05] <puchu> !
[12:06] <puchu> well, how?
[12:06] <well_laid_lawn> starn: I click on   change view mode   and the epg toggles on/off here
[12:06] <Sysi> altGr PrntScrn K by default
[12:06] <starn> does it have the next arrows and previus arrows and the next day arrows?? and the now button?
[12:07] <puchu> is there a way to restart just the x server?
[12:07] <starn> for those buttons don't seem to respawn to me
[12:08] <baizon> what backup gui programm do you recommend?
[12:09] <Sysi> puchu: not that I've heard of, what do you actually want to do?
[12:09] <Sysi> apps depend on xserver running
[12:10] <puchu> 'because i used to change my primary monitor when i watch a movie, i switch to another monitor with the nVidia application, ma for restart the x server  i have to logout everytime...
[12:11] <Os_Maleus> baizon: rsync
[12:11] <puchu> ...wich close all my windows...
[12:11] <Sysi> nvidia supports dynamic configuration nowdays
[12:11] <baizon> Os_Maleus: with gui
[12:11] <Os_Maleus> baizon: but it depends how You want to make a backup. and where?
[12:11] <baizon> Os_Maleus: my music and configuration
[12:11] <baizon> in a folder
[12:11] <baizon> so the backup goes into a folder
[12:12] <puchu> it says "u have to restart x server for apply changes..."
[12:12] <puchu> etc etc
[12:12] <Os_Maleus> I like the gui-s as well. ... got used to rsync meanwhile. and am very sattisfied with that.
[12:13] <baizon> i think i will give backintime a try
[12:13] <well_laid_lawn> starn: yep it has those
[12:16] <starn> says E key brings it up but nothing is happening what version are you using well_laid_lawn ?
[12:17] <well_laid_lawn> 2.0.1-3
[12:17] <starn> it says mine is me TV 1.3.6......
[12:17] <starn> so much for downloading stuff from apt-get.
[12:18] <Os_Maleus> rsync -avb --progress    --backup-dir=[trace to Your backup folder where changes should be saved]  --log-file=[trace to the log-file] --del  /[trace of the uppest folder You want to backup]  /[trace to where You want to have the backup to]
[12:18] <Os_Maleus> baizon: rsync -avb --progress    --backup-dir=[trace to Your backup folder where changes should be saved]  --log-file=[trace to the log-file] --del  /[trace of the uppest folder You want to backup]  /[trace to where You want to have the backup to]
[12:19] <well_laid_lawn> starn: the 2 series shouldn't look too much different to 1 series afaik
[12:22] <starn> i hope not. for i cannot find me-tv
[12:23] <baizon> thanks Os_Maleus
[12:25] <starn> well_laid_lawn: i'm not only one having issue with this version.
[12:28] <Os_Maleus> baizon: You are welcome!
[12:31] <well_laid_lawn> starn: going by the launchpad page for me-tv that's the version most distros are using
[12:32] <well_laid_lawn> bbiab
[12:34] <starn> hmm.. how do i make me tv 2.0.1 scan for channels... it's not letting me do so says something about command line scan is a good way to generate channels.conf
[12:51] <starn> can someone tell well_laid_lawn when he gets back i fixed it?
[14:19] <bbakalis> is there a way to safely remove gnome desktop and all of its dependencies without affecting my xubuntu? it was installed through updates and i want to uninstall it.
[14:24] <mongy> bbakalis: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[14:24] <mongy> best check what its removing in case you want any of it.
[14:34] <bbakalis> yes but as i can see it removes stuff necessary for xubuntu. am i  wrong?
[14:49] <mongy> never used that personally.
[14:49] <mongy> test it in a vm before?
[14:49] <bbakalis> no but i guess this is what i have to do...
[14:49] <bbakalis> thanks a lot
[14:50] <mongy> could install fresh xubuntu but keep your home folder and settings.
[15:00] <mongy> I have a spare vm I will try that purexfce for giggles.  If it gets hosed I will drop pschocat a line
[15:04] <mongy> ok, so I just did that command on a pure xubuntu already system, and the only things that are gonna be removed are gvfs-backends libarchive1 libcdio-cdda0 libcdio-paranoia0 libcdio10
[15:05] <mongy> so none of those things getting removed are needed by the looks of it
[15:24] <starn> hello, i need assistance with fixing my sound.. i just got a new machine.. and when i plug my headphones sound still comes from the speakers.
[15:31] <mongy> `oppsite for me, it stops playing speakers and nothing comes out of headphones
[15:32] <mongy> i may boot into 12.04 in a while to tst
[15:32] <starn> yeah it worked just fine on old machine.. not how i wanted but it worked.. i wanted it to play music through my speakers and VoIP on my headphones.. still want to do this.. but first i need to fix sound coming out of both like all audio does.. and i didn't change any settings.
[15:32] <starn> mongy: do you use realtek?? if so please let me know how it goes for you.
[15:36] <mongy> udio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[15:36] <mongy> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
[15:37] <mongy> only 1 I use is the intel, the ati is the hdmi port
[15:37] <mongy> Actually... I just saw in pavucontrol the options to choose headphones
[15:37] <mongy> lemme test
[15:39] <starn> ugh i forgot how to check what sound i got..
[15:40] <mongy> lspci - grep Audio
[15:40] <mongy> try pulseaudio control and in output devices, select analogue headphones
[15:40] <mongy> or whatever is there.
[16:10] <mongy> just tried 12.04, and although sound options were a lot nicer and had a few extras, and even though pluggin into headphoens automatically set output to headphones, nothing actually came out of them :(
[16:11] <mongy> sadly, sound is still a showstopper on linux for people.
[16:11] <mongy> if I had some hdmi headphones I would test..
[19:42] <lartza> Where is the iso supposed to fit since i's 710megabytes? :/ I only have 700 discs
[19:42] <lartza> and one that is 600 or 650
[19:44] <magerquark> dvd?
[19:44] <lartza> Mhh
[19:44] <lartza> my dvd burner is broken yeah...
[19:44] <magerquark> do you have a dvd-burner?
[19:44] <lartza> also 10 megabytes over is kind of a f* this shit situation...
[19:45] <mongy> it will fit on a regular '700'
[19:45] <magerquark> you can also take the alternate-iso
[19:46] <magerquark> lartza, from wich mirror did you get your iso
[19:46] <magerquark> ?
[19:47] <magerquark> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
[19:47] <magerquark> there is no iso that is above 700 MB
[19:51] <lartza> Interesting
[19:51] <lartza> torrent
[19:52] <lartza> magerquark: md5sum is right :S
[19:52] <magerquark> ah ok
[19:52] <lartza> but it is 710.2 MB
[19:52] <lartza> not 677 it is saying on the download page
[19:53] <lartza> I'm gonna download it from there then, totally weird
[19:53] <lartza> firefox says it's downloading a 677M file now
[19:53] <magerquark> do you have an usb.stick?
[19:53] <lartza> Yes but the laptop wouldn't boot it
[19:54] <lartza> just a flashing _
[19:54] <magerquark> ah ok, rather old laptop
[19:54] <lartza> Yea it has a "removable device" on bios but no idea why it failed to boot
[19:54] <lartza> it even detected it and tried it but just didnt
[19:54] <magerquark> lartza, there is a #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:55] <lartza> ?
[19:55] <lartza> Yes? Why?
[19:55] <magerquark> well your problem is solved
[19:56] <lartza> Well yea but I can do this :)
[20:12] <bodom> Hi there! Does anybody knows whether there is an integrated VNC in xubuntu?
[20:25] <mongy> bodom: unless I removed it when I was drunk, no there is not.
[20:29] <bodom> so, i'm looking for away to remotely access my running local xfce session
[20:31] <mongy> I think you can just install vino (the vnc in regular ubuntu)
[20:32] <mongy> there is also other vnc server like x11vnc and tightvnc, also chrome remote desktop is a handy extension that works rather well.
[20:34] <bodom> mongy: didn't knew vino can handle other windows managersthan gnome, i'll use it then. Ty
[20:35] <mongy> bodom: umm, I never tried it tbh
[21:26] <mongy> there is xrdp but I never got it to work
[21:30] <ronsonol> Is there a config to define unmounted hd partitions as not removable devices (so they don't show up on the desktop, but thumbdrives & cds do)?
[21:34] <GridCube> add them to fstab ronsonol
[21:34] <GridCube> !fstab
[21:34] <ronsonol> TNX GridCube.  Had some fstab tweaks to do anyhow.
[22:06] <xubuntu530> hi
[22:56] <encrypt> Hi im upgrading to 12.04 and the indicator for the NetworkManager is gone from the pannel. Any ideas on how to get it back?
[23:33] <starn> for some reason xubuntu will not mount primary "C" partition.. it's 500gb with vists 64bit


[07:08] <FourDollars> Hi, I found the Launchpad webhook of private Git repo only works for my proposal, but it doesn't work for the proposal from others.
[08:14] <cjwatson> FourDollars: We'll need a specific example, probably best expressed as a bug report please
[08:15] <FourDollars> cjwatson: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/691890
[08:15] <FourDollars> Just created few seconds ago.
[08:15] <cjwatson> Will look in a bit
[08:15] <FourDollars> Thx
[09:32] <mantas-baltix> Hi, Could someone tell why packaging recipe builds doesn't start today? Yesterday builds were started after few minutes, but today I'm waiting more than 2 hours, see https://code.launchpad.net/~baltix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/19597053
[09:33] <mantas-baltix> And I see misleading information: Start in 19 minutes :(
[09:37] <tomwardill> mantas-baltix: we've had a network outage overnight, the build queue/farm is recovering
[09:37] <tomwardill> it built up a reasonably large queue that it needs to get through
[10:51] <Laney> ilasc: hey there, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fDx7d37Ycr/ is this a repacking thing or an outage thing do you know? & can you help me be able to push it please? :>
[11:15] <ilasc> hey Laney , that's work we have in progress right now
[11:15] <ilasc> unfortunately it's not an outage or repacking scenario
[11:16] <ilasc> we'll need to wait for the changes to land in Prod for that
[11:20] <Laney> ah
[11:20] <Laney> ilasc: is there a way I can push to it?
[11:20] <Laney> I could just make a branch on the upstream repo instead if not
[11:21] <ilasc> Laney: you could try but if the branch is large enough it will probably result in the same
[11:21] <Laney> ilasc: it worked
[11:22] <ilasc> excellent !
[11:22] <Laney> wouldn't go that far :p
[11:22] <Laney> 'satifactory'!
[11:22]  * Laney is taken back to school reports
[11:23] <ilasc> 🙂
[11:42] <cjwatson> ilasc: repacking the "parent" repository (i.e. the one being cloned from) often works for this FWIW
[11:42] <cjwatson> Not always, but often engh to be worth trying
[11:42] <cjwatson> *enough
[11:42] <ilasc> oh sorry I missed  that
[11:42] <ilasc> indeed
[11:45] <ilasc> which in this case would be livecd-rootfs
[11:45] <ilasc> ok, thanks cjwatson


[09:14] <xerophyte> i have question if i setup postfix with saslauthd and i enable the smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes .. how does the postfix knwo where ot find the saslauthd socket to verify .. my setup works so just wondering how does the postfix know about this sasl location because smtpd.conf are different on debian and redhat
[09:16] <infinity> There should be comiled-in defaults for the socket, as well as ways to override that in the conffile.
[09:16] <infinity> If the compiled-in defaults work (and they should), there's no need to specify it again in the conf.
[09:17] <xerophyte> how can i check what is the compiled default lcoation
[09:17] <xerophyte> because i use Ubuntu and RHEL
[09:17] <xerophyte> sasl socket on different location and smtpd.conf also on different location
[09:17] <xerophyte> so i am just confused how does those get connected
[09:19] <infinity> Look at the source packages in question?
[09:19] <infinity> 'apt-get source postfix' for instance, to check out the Ubuntu source for postfix, etc
[09:21] <xerophyte> ???
[09:21] <xerophyte> i hae the rpm source let me check so you are saying the spec file should countain the ssasl location
[09:21] <xerophyte> just wondering
[09:25] <infinity> Might be a configure option (so, spec file in RPM, debian/rules in DEB), or actually hardcoded in the source, which would be in patches.
[09:25] <infinity> I'm not positive in the case of postfix.
[09:34] <xerophyte> infinity, looks like smtpd.conf config belongs to the postfix and its compile time option
[10:59] <Pyretic> does the ubuntu server project have any docs ?
[11:00] <Pyretic> ah ServerFAQ
[11:18] <jguenth> I want to install Ubuntu on a root server and don't find any howtos.
[11:18] <jguenth> Are there any?
[11:19] <jguenth> Are there any howtos how to install Ubuntu on a remote system?


[06:22] <Tm_T> TheLordOfTime: hi?
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> Tm_T: was looking for someone on IRCC (or Ubuntu group contacts) to approve a cloak revision to my ubuntu/member cloak, in case staff decided to complain when I ask them to change the last part of it, but of course i wasn't here at 2AM so...
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> if anyone on IRCC is alive right now and can approve it that'd be great, if staff ask.  (change cloak from ubuntu/member/thelordoftime -> ubuntu/member/teward )
[17:57] <topyli> TheLordOfTime: gladly approving! consistant with launchpad
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> yep
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> niko: ^
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> since you are already alive in priv :P
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> topyli: can't guarantee my primary nick will change, can't change my ZNC settings from my phone but meh
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> the cloak will be consistent though :p
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> thanks niko for the cloak change ;)
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> and thanks, topyli, for the approval :)
[18:13] <topyli> cheers :)
[18:13] <TheLordOfTime> (sorry about the slow "thank you" had to futz with my bots to fix the identification of who i am to it xD)
[18:14] <topyli> oh well, took us days to approve the thing, so you don't come off as too slow at all :)
[18:15] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[18:15] <TheLordOfTime> only took 24 hours...
[18:15] <TheLordOfTime> although i didn't get the full request in until today :P
[18:15] <TheLordOfTime> (just happened to be bad timing that no IRCC individual was around to hear the request yesterday when i was seeking it)


 pretty sure the btrfs issue that @Leokolb was poking at earlier is still there :P
 maybe snaps don't work right on btrfs
 could very well be - many snap issues - also with upgrades (re @teward001: maybe snaps don't work right on btrfs)
 That stands to reason looking at the syslog. We've also not had a problem with BTRFS to date that I know of. (re @teward001: maybe snaps don't work right on btrfs)
 Thanks guiverc for the Calamares logs. That helps. I am not sure we can blame Calamares for this one. Feels more like a snap issue and linking of files.
[08:52] <guiverc> I'm convinced it's not a calamares issue either.. My aim is to confirm that by Ubuntu install using BTRFS where it'll result in the same issue I bet....   I just gotta have time to do that..
[08:53] <guiverc> @Leokolb had already added logs as well.
 Yeah, you both have been helpful.
 I think your plan makes perfect sense.
 I can run an ubuntu test right now (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> I'm convinced it's not a calamares issue either.. My aim is to confirm that by Ubuntu install using BTRFS where it'll result in the same issue I bet....   I just gotta have time to do that..)
 That would be excellent thanks @Leokolb
 underway
[09:01] <guiverc> Thanks @Leokolb, it's appreciated !  (gains us more details.. if it's not Lubuntu specific upstream Ubuntu can fix it :)
[09:10] <guiverc> fyi: @Leokolb, if you get a bug using Ubuntu daily ISO, I'd file a new report, then link them later.. I would have run test using http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/429/builds/246268/testcases/1302/results (manual partitioning - it allows you to create your own file-system if you look) - thus initially make it a all ubuntu test..  You can mention it was tested to gain extra detail on Lubuntu issue (ref. other bug now) - but
[09:10] <guiverc> that's just how I'd do it
[09:11] <guiverc> on the iso tracker gets it noticed on different reports I believe :)
 already on iso tracker ubuntu -running test hang on 2 min (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> fyi: @Leokolb, if you get a bug using Ubuntu daily ISO, I'd file a new report, then link them later.. I would have run test using http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/429/builds/246268/testcases/1302/results (manual partitioning - it allows you to create your own file-system if you look) - thus initially make it a all ubuntu test..  Yo
[09:12] <guiverc> :)
 Ubuntu btrfs up and running - no error - back to calamares - i intended to test also the next studio ISO (last one was defective other bugs)
[09:18] <guiverc> Oh well; the issue can't be kicked upstream.. it's ours.  :(  I'm outta ideas, but thank you @Leokolb
 btrfs did work in 21.10 right?
[10:56] <guiverc> @kc2bez, btrfs is a checklist install item, it's been tested since at least 19.04 & worked in all prior releases many times each cycle
[11:01] <guiverc> i can see i filed a bug on btfs 2021-09-09; it was marked a duplicate; I would have re-performed that test & it worked... (sfdisk --force --append issue on my old d755 box) 1943128  .. error message had changed slightly likely due calamares upgrade from prior run
 I ran several test on btrfs on 21.10 never had a failure (re @kc2bez: btrfs did work in 21.10 right?)
 wonder if I tried removing the firefox packages from the install iso @kc2bez @guiverc and tried that? any sense?
 I don't think it is the snap. I saw other SystemD things failing before the final snapd failed to load. It looks like file permissions issues? Maybe a kpmcore related issue, or at least the interaction with Calamares.
 ok tks for info (re @kc2bez: I don't think it is the snap. I saw other SystemD things failing before the final snapd failed to load. It looks like file permissions issues? Maybe a kpmcore related issue, or at least the interaction with Calamares.)
 Sure thing. I still have more questions than answers at this point.
[22:39] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Jammy Beta] has been updated (20220329.1)


[10:11] <rmg51> Morning
[13:23] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, hamsters and everything else
[22:45] <InHisName> I have a salvaged memory stick used in xbox 360, can I copy contents on my linux machine ?  I'd like it as a back up that can be put onto another 16GB stick later.