[03:15] <SEJeff> khafra: Don't worry about that. /proc is a VIRTUAL filesystem created by the kernel
[03:15] <mojo> i am just wondering when dapper respo is opened?
[03:15] <SEJeff> khafra: That is normal
[03:15] <trinitrogen> In a fresh install of Breezy, how do I get to my terminal and root terminal?
[03:16] <khafra> SEJeff: I don't remember seeing that message in other distros when I used find
[03:16] <SEJeff> khafra: This is ubuntu, not other distros. It is not broken, but it is different
[03:16] <bimberi> trinitrogen: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[03:16] <Madpilot> mojo: have a bit of patience, Breezy hasn't even been out a week yet! ;)
[03:16] <bimberi> trinitrogen: sudo -i (or -s) in a terminal gets you a root shell
[03:16] <mojo> i just can't take it anymore, I want to break whole my PC with dapper rite now
[03:17] <azp> it says, ndiswrapper-utils is already the newest version, 0 upgreaded, 0 newly installed, 0 to reomve, and 1 not upgreaded
[03:17] <azp> does that mean it is installed?
[03:17] <gusto5> azp, nope.
[03:17] <mojo> anyway, thx u guys, this community is da best!
[03:17] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[03:17] <azp> so what do i do?
[03:17] <dmlinux> it is !
[03:17] <cevizoglu> azp, yes
[03:17] <Ron_o> I was wondering, do people in the linux community really want linux to be as popular as Windows?
[03:17] <NsOmNiAc> what is the URL to paste large blocks of text without flooding a channel for evaluation ?
[03:17] <gusto5> wait...
[03:17] <azp> gusto5, that is what I typed
[03:18] <dmlinux> no ron_o, then people would write viruses for it
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, ok. yea then cevizoglu is right. its installed.
[03:18] <azp> wait it said and 1 not upgraded
[03:18] <khafra> Ron_o: It's already hacked more often.
[03:18] <Villa> hi
[03:18] <ubuntunewbie2> loon: where do I download mepislite
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, that is something else in apt-get
[03:18] <mojo> IF Linux is as easy as Windows, I reckon ppl will consider move to Linux
[03:18] <khafra> What else is there to lose?
[03:18] <azp> yes gusto?
[03:18] <leetcharmer> sad day :( the whole reason I wanted to go to Kubuntu was to see if it would cause amaroK to work -- but alas, it's still broken :(
[03:18] <RockyBurt> hm, i'm trying to install a panel applet (gnome -- breezy) that keeps crashing, where could i see the log errors for that crash?
[03:18] <leetcharmer> it never stops rebuffering
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, what you NEED is installed.
[03:18] <trinitrogen> in hoary I had a terminal and a root terminal button on the top, how can I do that in breezy?
[03:18] <leetcharmer> infinite radio buffer loop
[03:18] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, I'm personally not concerned if everyone moves to linux
[03:18] <azp> ok
[03:18] <dmlinux> leetcharmer whats wrong with your amarok
[03:18] <Jeffrae> I have a question about ANSI termina emulation and stuff
[03:18] <azp> let me try then
[03:18] <azp> installing the driver
[03:18] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, but that's just me
[03:18] <gusto5> azp, ok.
[03:18] <leetcharmer> dmlinux: can't listen to any online radio
[03:18] <Jeffrae> Does anyone know a a telnet client that supports ansi graphics and so on?
[03:19] <Ron_o> cevizoglu: I'm not either. But I'd like to have a system I can use without too much fret.
[03:19] <Ron_o> you know?
[03:19] <Jeffrae> I am trying to log onto a BBS I use to belong to back in 97
[03:19] <Jeffrae> haha
[03:19] <Jeffrae> don't laugh
[03:19] <delgaudio> algum brasileiro? (some brazilian?)
[03:19] <dmlinux> leetcharmer oh.. im running gnome with amaroK, i love it , but i dont listen to online radio
[03:19] <Ron_o> MS is great on the front end, but the back end kills you.
[03:19] <johndarkhorse> !pt
[03:19] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:19] <gusto5> i second that, Ron_o
[03:19] <Ron_o> and linux and other OS are great on the back end but are horrible on the front end.
[03:19] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, I'm using ubuntu right now because it makes me more productive
[03:19] <Ron_o> I just want something that works adn is somewhat cheap.
[03:19] <cevizoglu> Ron_o, and annoys me less
[03:20] <leetcharmer> :/ I don't own any audio CD's, so I typically used amaroK for online radio w/ my older distros
[03:20] <gusto5> azp, if it dosnt work refer to this thread => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22645
[03:20] <leetcharmer> but in (K)Ubuntu it never works :(
[03:20] <leetcharmer> sad day
[03:20] <gusto5> leetcharmer, plain audo CD's?
[03:20] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: mp3 streams?
[03:20] <Madpilot> Ron_o: "horrible" grossly overstating... I was doing stuff last night - DTP work - that I could *not* have done on a Windows desktop, not without paying megabucks...
[03:21] <Ron_o> Madpilot: that's true.  There's several.
[03:21] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: just continues to rebuffer
[03:21] <azp> gusto5, when I type modprobe ndiswrapper into the terminal I get the error FATAL: Error instertind ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernal/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): operation not permitted
[03:21] <leetcharmer> hits 100% and tries to do it again
[03:22] <Ron_o> I think the money is the key. Not many of us can afford all these progs and clients to make our system really work.
[03:22] <DShepherd> hi
[03:22] <durt> azp: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:22] <Amaranth> !tell leetcharmer about mp3
[03:22] <azp> yes I did sudp
[03:22] <azp> sudo
[03:22] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: see if the PM you just got helps any
[03:22] <Ron_o> most of us just steal the apps..
[03:22] <delgaudio> when i try connect in other server (irc.brasnet.org), i make it, but when i try enter in some channel not enter! what i have to do to enter in some channel?????
[03:22] <Madpilot> Ron_o: the app I was using - Scribus - is a professional-calibre DTP app, with no Win port and (AFAIK) no free Win equiv; and commercial DTP apps cost those megabucks...
[03:22] <leetcharmer> gusto5: the only other thing I could think of using amaroK for is playing music I ripped from CD, but I don't own any audio cd's
[03:22] <brenner> would upgrading to breezy leave my home partition alone?
[03:22] <durt> azp: then you need the kernel headers
[03:22] <misfit_toy> 4 lines is ok to paste correct?
[03:22] <Ron_o> I don't like doing that... not anymore.;->
[03:22] <azp> how do I get htem ?
[03:22] <Versed> Someday there will be an easy way to install wifi under linux.
[03:22] <dmlinux> ron_o i dont steal , i hax0r !
[03:22] <Versed> :-)
[03:23] <DShepherd> Crtl+Alt+backspace restart X...but the windows I had opened are close
[03:23] <Amaranth> Anyone wanna test the latest version of alacarte (used to be called smeg)?
[03:23] <misfit_toy> I have 4 dependencies to get this package installed and I never heard of 'em...
[03:23] <gusto5> leetcharmer, what file types are they?
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: stick with 2 lines, please
[03:23] <misfit_toy> 4 lines is ok to paste correct?
[03:23] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse,
[03:23] <DShepherd> is this how breezy works now
[03:23] <DShepherd> ?
[03:23] <Ron_o> I actually have tried a few linux OSs.
[03:23] <delgaudio> when i try connect in other server (irc.brasnet.org), i make it, but when i try enter in some channel not enter! what i have to do to enter in some channel?????
[03:23] <cevizoglu> Versed, actually, wifi worked for me w/ no configuration
[03:23] <gusto5> DShepherd, think so.
[03:23] <leetcharmer> gusto5: typical music shoutcast streams that come w/ amaroK
[03:23] <Versed> atleast under the PPC, ubuntu installs the wifi airport card
[03:23] <leetcharmer> I'm thinkin' .pls
[03:23] <misfit_toy> ok, then here's two:
[03:23] <Amaranth> delgaudio: /join #foo doesn't work?
[03:23] <dmlinux> gusto5 what is ndiswrapper ?
[03:23] <trinitrogen> uh oh, fresh install and when I open nautilus from a terminal I get "(nautilus:29018): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: "
[03:23] <misfit_toy> checking for yuvfps... no
[03:23] <misfit_toy> checking for mpeg2enc... no
[03:23] <DShepherd> gusto5: ok
[03:23] <azp> gusto5, did u see what I said?
[03:23] <Versed> it worked for me on my g4 450 under ubuntu
[03:23] <Ron_o> the problem came when I wanted more apps. I didn't know how to get them to work.
[03:23] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, heard of those?
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: use a pastebin, and yes i have
[03:24] <gusto5> azp, apparently you need kernel headers
[03:24] <gusto5> dmlinux, probably not something you need
[03:24] <dmlinux> Ron_o ask in the channel if you have a install problem there is ALWAYS someone here that knows
[03:24] <Ron_o> I think ubuntu will be popular and is popular because it makes many of the choices for you.
[03:24] <azp> how do I get them gusto5?
[03:24] <dmlinux> gusto5 does it deal with Bluetooth as well ?
[03:24] <gusto5> azp, one sec.
[03:24] <Versed> cevizoglu what are you running ubuntu on?
[03:24] <gusto5> dmlinux, no idea. i dont even know what it does myself. i think it relates to wireless
[03:24] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, I'm installing "tovid" and I had it running on hoary, let me hit a pastbin
[03:24] <DShepherd> Ron_o: i disagree
[03:24] <cevizoglu> Versed, on a thinkpad, but previously I had a prism card on a powerbook which worked with no configuration as wll
[03:24] <Ron_o> that goes against the grain of linux.
[03:25] <Ron_o> DShepherd: it uses Gnome, and not KDE..
[03:25] <fernando> hi all, anyone have performance problem with glcore in 4.10 ?
[03:25] <Ron_o> but there's a KDE version, I know.
[03:25] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-get linux-headers-386
[03:25] <DShepherd> Ron_o: I use Gnome not KDE either
[03:25] <gusto5> azp, im presuming youre on a x86 machine
[03:25] <cevizoglu> er ,as well
[03:25] <Madpilot> Ron_o: Breezy's Add Aplications is the easiest app-installer I've ever seen; Synpatic is nearly as easy. App installation in Breezy isn't hard
[03:25] <Ron_o> it partitions the HD for you.
[03:25] <delgaudio> when i try connect in other server (irc.brasnet.org), i make it, but when i try enter in some channel not enter! what i have to do to enter in some channel?????
[03:25] <Versed> yeah seems to work easier under apple stuff.
[03:26] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, http://pastebin.com/398185
[03:26] <dmlinux> durt what is ndiswrapper
[03:26] <cevizoglu> Versed, the thinkpad t series has great support too
[03:26] <DShepherd> Ron_o: and you can choose how it partitions...
[03:26] <azp> gusto5, it says invaled operation
[03:26] <necator> how can i enable my scroll mouse button i am inside my xorg.conf file and dont know what to add to the mouse section to give me access to my third button =( SOMEONE PLEASE HELP =(
[03:26] <Versed> 802.11g?
[03:26] <kbrooks> Poll: Who likes breezy and why?
[03:26] <azp> I am on a x86 machine
[03:26] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-cache linux-headers
[03:26] <Ron_o> oh, I've no problem with wanting Ubuntu. I just need the fricking CD..
[03:26] <king>
[03:26] <cevizoglu> Versed, yes
[03:26] <Ron_o> that'll be soon enough.
[03:26] <cevizoglu> Versed, the prism card on mac was 802.11g also
[03:26] <DShepherd> kbrooks: breezy is just easy, slim and works
[03:27] <Madpilot> Ron_o: no burner? You can download the ISOs if you're impatient and burner-equipped
[03:27] <azp> gusto5, it says apt-get-cache command not found
[03:27] <Versed> not really intrested on installing it on my pb, but it's nice to know.
[03:27] <gusto5> azp, not apt-get-cache. apt-cache
[03:27] <Ron_o> Madpilot: My burner is on the fritz..
[03:27] <Ron_o> I don't know why.
[03:27] <kbrooks> DShepherd: Easy how?
[03:27] <Versed> thanks for heads up
[03:27] <Ron_o> I'm studying the issue right now.
[03:27] <cevizoglu> Versed, but it isn't an internal card, so it's annoying plugging the card in
[03:27] <durt> ubotu, tell dmlinux about ndiswrapper
[03:27] <gusto5> !ubotu, tell gusto5 about ndiswrapper
[03:27] <azp> gusto5, it still says invalid operation
[03:28] <azp> I am the 1 who needs to know gusto
[03:28] <gusto5> azp, `sudo apt-cache linux-headers`
[03:28] <azp> with the quotes?
[03:28] <kbrooks> gusto5: apt-cache SEARCH
[03:28] <DShepherd> kbrooks: Installation, Admin (managing users) and it's easy on the pocket too
[03:28] <cevizoglu> azp, no
[03:28] <misfit_toy> need the following dependencies, they aren't in my repos evidently, or have been renamed... http://pastebin.com/398185
[03:28] <fliplr> is there a quick way to install the mplayer plugin in ubuntu?
[03:29] <fliplr> i've already compiled mplayer, works fine
[03:29] <gusto5> azp, it is `sudo apt-cache search linux-headers
[03:29] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: i'm not at my home box to confirm, but i believe some of those are in "mpeg tools" or some such pkg
[03:29] <azp> ok
[03:29] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: use synaptic and check
[03:29] <gusto5> thanks kbrooks
[03:29] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, thank you sir
[03:29] <azp> ok 3 lines came up
[03:29] <brenner> fliplr: plugin for what?
[03:29] <gusto5> azp, they are?
[03:29] <mickey> anyone know how to keep gaim from starting up on logging in?
[03:29] <flodine> can some tell me why artwiz fonts dont work in breezy snaptic install them
[03:30] <azp> linuxheaders-386 - linux kernel headers on 386
[03:30] <Ron_o> in ubuntu, is there a personal firewall, in the likes of Zonealarm?
[03:30] <fliplr> brenner: the mplayer plugin for firefox, sorry, should have been more specific
[03:30] <king>
[03:30] <king>
[03:30] <gusto5> azp, sudo apt-get install linuxheaders-386
[03:30] <Ron_o> I know that's not a real firewall, but it's seems to work well for me.
[03:30] <azp> ok let me try that
[03:30] <ciocanel> Ron_o, firestarter
[03:31] <fliplr> woops, nevermind, found a recent howto
[03:31] <Ron_o> thanks, just wanted to know.
[03:31] <durt> fliplr: use mozplugger
[03:31] <azp> ok
[03:31] <Ron_o> that's great, and the product looks fantastic.
[03:31] <azp> it is doing it
[03:31] <fliplr> mozplugger?
[03:31] <azp> it is done
[03:31] <gusto5> azp, now get the driver?
[03:31] <azp> now what?
[03:31] <Ron_o> actually, for all the complaints of these personal firewalls that I've heard, I've had no problems with them.
[03:31] <mickey> trying to keep gaim from starting when I logon to the computer, anyone have an idea?
[03:31] <azp> try installing the utils again?
[03:31] <azp> or driver?
[03:31] <cevizoglu> is there a tool which records all sound going through esd and saves as wav, ogg, or mp3?
[03:31] <mickey> there doesn't seem to be a preferences option for it
[03:31] <Ron_o> I turned ZA off for a few moments the other day and got a trojan.
[03:31] <durt> !mozplugger
[03:31] <gusto5> azp, yea
[03:31] <ubotu> durt: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:32] <azp> gusto, which?
[03:32] <gusto5> azp, whichever one you were needing earlier?!
[03:32] <azp> ok
[03:32] <DShepherd> Ron_o: on a linux box?
[03:32] <misfit_toy> johndarkhorse, that was DEAD ON, my thanks
[03:32] <Kruzr> so, I have a question
[03:32] <Ron_o> DShepherd: no, Win98
[03:32] <Ron_o> heh..
[03:32] <Kruzr> what is Ubuntu better than Fedora at, and what is Fedora better than Ubuntu at?
[03:32] <Ron_o> I'm old school. ;->
[03:32] <DShepherd> Ron_o: makes sense now
[03:33] <Ron_o> I've refused to upgrade to WinMX or even 2000.
[03:33] <azp> ok I am still having hte modprobe problem, it still says operation not permitted
[03:33] <Toma-> Kruzr: fedora is more of a server/experienced user distro. imho
[03:33] <azp> yes I used sudo
[03:33] <DShepherd> Ron_o: why?
[03:33] <Toma-> Kruzr: ubuntu is probably the simplest distro out
[03:33] <Kruzr> Simplest to use, you mean
[03:33] <gusto5> Toma-, knoppix?
[03:33] <Ron_o> For one, my sister had WinME and I was helping her out with it and I was erasing her cookies.
[03:33] <sampan> pclinuxos?
[03:34] <johndarkhorse> misfit_toy: yes, one never knows who one is talking to, heh
[03:34] <cevizoglu> Toma-, simple != inexperienced
[03:34] <Toma-> gusto5: but thats live...
[03:34] <Ron_o> I tried to open up Inex.dat and it tried to connect to the internet.
[03:34] <Toma-> Kruzr: yeh
[03:34] <Ron_o> it's kind of creepy.
[03:34] <gusto5> Toma-, mandrake? mandriva?
[03:34] <Kruzr> also, I note I've found Ubuntu to be rather powerful.
[03:34] <Ron_o> I can't imagine how Orewellian Longhorn is going to be.
[03:34] <gusto5> azp, im really outta ideas, sorry.
[03:34] <DShepherd> Ron_o: WinME is scary
[03:34] <mickey> so what's the "ettiquette" in a chat like this where a question isn't getting answered?  Should I just keep reasking it periodically?
[03:34] <Toma-> gusto5: fine. its a peice of crap?
[03:34] <DShepherd> Ron_o: You mean VISTA? :)
[03:34] <azp> gusto5, know anybody else who might know?
[03:34] <sampan> mickey, yes
[03:34] <gusto5> lol Toma- :P
[03:34] <gusto5> azp, mabye durt
[03:34] <Ron_o> I really feel that most upgrades, after a point, are to manipulate you more.
[03:34] <mickey> sampan just didn't want to make people angry
[03:35] <durt> azp: do you have the kernel headers yet?
[03:35] <Ron_o> DShepherd: I guess that's what it's called now.
[03:35] <azp> yes
[03:35] <kevogod> Ron_o, Index.dat collectively caches your history of life on the Web.
[03:35] <Ron_o> I think MS changed it.
[03:35] <azp> it still gives me the operation not permitted
[03:35] <Ron_o> kevogod: yes.
[03:35] <sampan> mickey, sometimes people don't answer b/c they simply don't know or aren't paying attention.  spamming it every 10 seconds probably isn't wise, but every so often you never know who might just happen to see it :D
[03:35] <Ron_o> that's why I was erasing it.
[03:35] <Ron_o> WinME didn't allow me to do it.
[03:35] <azp> when doig sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:35] <kevogod> It is the single most evil file in Windows.
[03:35] <brenner> fliplr: in hoary, you could install the mozilla-mplayer package.  not sure if there's a new method in brezy
[03:35] <mickey> sampan sage advice :-)
[03:35] <Ron_o> that's creepy, no?
[03:35] <kevogod> file(s)
[03:36] <azp> durt, do you have aim?
[03:36] <Burgundavia> brenner, breezy ships a totem plugin, you just need to tell totem about the codecs
[03:36] <Ron_o> I know kevogod, I've been battling windows now for 7 years.
[03:36] <durt> i have gaim, azp
[03:36] <Ron_o> I can spend hours clearing things that I don't like.
[03:36] <gusto5> Burgundavia, how does one do that?
[03:36] <azp> ...will that work?
[03:36] <mickey> durt do you now how to keep gaim from activating when you login?
[03:37] <azp> try iming me durt, jcwedel12
[03:37] <Ron_o> in Win98, all I have to do is open index.dat, erase the information in the file and then save it again.
[03:37] <Ron_o> but not ME..
[03:37] <Ron_o> creepy.
[03:37] <brenner> Burgundavia: righto..i might just lurk for possible breezy-related questions. i haven't upgraaded yet. :)
[03:37] <kevogod> Ron_o, It is strange in ME, considering it still uses the FAT32 filesystem.
[03:37] <brenner> s/lurk for/refrain from anwering
[03:38] <azp> durt what do I do after I install the header?
[03:38] <durt> mickey, sorry ive never had that problem :(
[03:38] <mickey> durt you mean it doesn't do that for you, or it doesn't bother you?
[03:38] <durt> mickey, it doesnt happen for me
[03:38] <durt> azp: hold on...
[03:38] <mickey> durt, wow, strange
[03:38] <Mrl33t> i need to edit /ect/act/sources.list to add something but its readonly
[03:39] <mickey> durt, no wonder no body is answering the question then :-P
[03:39] <Mrl33t> how can i get around this?
[03:39] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: use sudo
[03:39] <gusto5> Mrl33t, are you editing it as root?
[03:39] <MartyFouts> sudo <your editor> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <kevogod> mickey, Activating as in how? At your user login?
[03:39] <choy> ghjk
[03:39] <mickey> kevogod, yeah when I log into xwindows gaim just pops up, along with those help windows, that I'm getting tired of seeing
[03:40] <fdelacruz> Guys is there a problem with the repo? especifically this link http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates
[03:40] <kevogod> mickey, Try System > Administration > Services if it is at your use rlogin.
[03:40] <mickey> kevogod I just want a clean workspace :-)
[03:40] <jamesschend> Hello, can I get some help on upgrading to breezy badger?
[03:40] <Ron_o> I was wondering something about Linuxers..
[03:40] <Mrl33t> martyfouts:  whats the name of the normal text editor?
[03:40] <Ron_o> what happens when you get a .doc file?
[03:40] <Ron_o> how to do you view it?
[03:40] <inktaylor> probably gedit
[03:40] <brenner> Ron_o: openoffice
[03:40] <bimberi> Ron_o: openoffice
[03:40] <Ron_o> -to
[03:40] <kevogod> Ron_o, Use OpenOffice.org
[03:40] <DShepherd> Ron_o: Openoffice
[03:40] <Ron_o> openoffice will do that?
[03:40] <gusto5> lol
[03:40] <kevogod> Yes
[03:40] <gusto5> wow.
[03:40] <DShepherd> lol
[03:40] <brenner> Ron_o: or tell them they should be using PDF. :)
[03:40] <richard_has_spok> but just for an editor gedit
[03:40] <gusto5> so many responses for OOo :P
[03:41] <DShepherd> Ron_o: and much more
[03:41] <duncanm> anyone using a Dell 2405FPW here?
[03:41] <Mrl33t> ok
[03:41] <kevogod> It is actually OpenOffice.org since OpenOffice has trademark issues.
[03:41] <kevogod> :-)
[03:41] <mickey> kevogod not in services...
[03:41] <jamesschend> I found these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:41] <gusto5> yep
[03:41] <gusto5> OOo
[03:41] <gusto5> :)
[03:41] <Ron_o> how about sending something so someone else can open?
[03:41] <Ron_o> LOL...
[03:41] <brenner> Ron_o: so do other free word processors iirc
[03:41] <gusto5> seriously
[03:41] <gusto5> OOo
[03:41] <jamesschend> And I'm stuck on the first step.  Other than mozilla and firefox, how do I tell which packages conflict?
[03:41] <durt> azp:you want me to aim you?
[03:41] <azp> yes please
[03:41] <Ron_o> the problem is people *do not* want to use too many progs.
[03:42] <OsirisX> Can anyone please provide me some guidance on ubuntu amd64 flash?
[03:42] <Amaranth> Anyone wanna test a new version of smeg?
[03:42] <DShepherd> Ron_o: they dont have to either
[03:42] <OsirisX> can't get flash to work
[03:42] <bimberi> Amaranth: sure :)
[03:42] <kevogod> Amaranth, Sure.
[03:42] <Mrl33t> i can't even read the file with gedit
[03:42] <Mrl33t> i get blank
[03:42] <protokol> yo
[03:42] <bimberi> Amaranth: unless i disgracec myself last time :)
[03:42] <bimberi> s/c/d/
[03:42] <Amaranth> bimberi, kevogod: http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte-0.8beta2.tar.gz extact and run alacarte-0.8/src/alacarte
[03:42] <protokol> im in breezy and i want to open the system and prefrences in a folder view, how do i do that
[03:43] <DShepherd> Mrl33t: What you trying to do
[03:43] <mauricio> hi anyone can help me? I don't know where to find the Ubuntu isos
[03:43] <jamesschend> Is anybody reading this?
[03:43] <Amaranth> protokol: you mean those menus?
[03:43] <richard_has_spok> what do you mean?
[03:43] <Amaranth> jamesschend: yeah, but sometimes things get lost in the flood
[03:43] <OsirisX> jamesschend: what's up man?
[03:43] <richard_has_spok> just look
[03:43] <azp> durt?
[03:43] <johndarkhorse> jamesschend: as long as you are using ubuntu repos, you should have no conflicting pkgs
[03:43] <jamesschend> I just posted my question.  :(
[03:43] <MartyFouts> anybody know what config file i would use to duplicate the 386 kerenel that's on the breezy iso?
[03:43] <jamesschend> What about Firefox?
[03:44] <Chinstrap> mauricio, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[03:44] <mauricio> i mean i just installed breeze but i don't know where to download the rest of the isos (if there are any)
[03:44] <OsirisX> jamesschend: i did too man but you don't see me bitchin. they'll read it
[03:44] <jamesschend> Those upgrade notes make it sound like Firefox is a conflict.
[03:44] <brenner> mauricio: rest of them? it's a one CD distro
[03:44] <johndarkhorse> mauricio: there are no extra isos
[03:44] <Chinstrap> mauricio, there's just one iso, everything else can be automatically downloaded over the internet on an as needed basis
[03:44] <SAM_theman> how i install yum for ubunu 5.10
[03:44] <jamesschend> osiris:  i'm not bitching, I've just never used this program before and have no clue if people are actually reading it.
[03:44] <jamesschend> I just wanted some acknowledgement.
[03:44] <SAM_theman> when i try to install replay
[03:44] <Chinstrap> SAM_theman, yum?  That's what apt-get is for
[03:45] <johndarkhorse> SAM_theman: use apt-get . yum is a derivative of it
[03:45] <OsirisX> jamesschend: o yea its cool man i feel you, that's why i replied, that's what i figured
[03:45] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: ubuntu uses apt
[03:45] <jamesschend> So anyway, Firefox is ok to upgrade with?
[03:45] <mauricio> the thing is that i'm leading a school intranet and my internet access is very limited
[03:45] <sector10> does anyone knwo where to configure touchpad?
[03:45] <Chinstrap> wow, do I ever love bittorrent, downloading ubuntu amd64 iso at 713KB/s
[03:45] <fdelacruz> SAM try sudo apt-get install yum
[03:45] <mauricio> I use to use Debian
[03:45] <defendguin> Could someone please tell me if they can configure cups in breezy
[03:45] <fdelacruz> or use the synaptic
[03:46] <defendguin> cupsd is running but there is no web interface
[03:46] <kevogod> Amaranth, I have noticed that once you drag one Menu category into another one, there is no way to "get it out". When you drag it to the Applications menu, it goes there, but will not leave the category within the Menu itself.
[03:46] <mauricio> and there where many extra isos
[03:46] <fdelacruz> defendguin yes it can be
[03:46] <mickey> how did you all turn off those help files that come on when you login to gnome? perhaps that's also the key to keeping gaim from starting
[03:46] <defendguin> fdelacruz, please do tell me how
[03:46] <johndarkhorse> fdelacruz: yum is not in ubuntu
[03:46] <P8ntKid> What are some good addicing linux games?
[03:46] <djjason> I have a problem on my laptop. I just upgraded to Breezy and when I am using my laptop just running on battery it completely freezes. I cant move the mouse or restart X or anything. I have to brutally hold the power button down until it shutsdown. The only thing I notice is that the hdd light becomes constant like the disk is working but it does not sound like its doing anything. Anyone familiar with this?
[03:46] <mauricio> so there is another way to download in the "easy way" the rest of the programs
[03:46] <Amaranth> kevogod: i don't know what you mean
[03:47] <mauricio> _
[03:47] <geno_> Any way to get a free version of Cedega?
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mauricio about synaptic
[03:47] <mauricio> ?
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> geno_: google for "cedega cvs"
[03:47] <SAM_theman> yes
[03:47] <kevogod> Amaranth, Say you drag the "Programming" menu into the "Debian" menu. Then drag it back to the "Applications" menu. It will stay trapped in the Debian menu.
[03:47] <leetcharmer> gusto5: I understand the whole 'restricted formats' rules and what-not, but, the online radio stations are able to be played w/ XMMS, so -- why not amaroK?
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> mauricio: look to your private messages
[03:47] <defendguin> fdelacruz, the web interface is not there despite cupsd running  and the gnome-cups-manager says it cant find the cups server even though it IS running
[03:47] <SAM_theman> yes there is
[03:47] <SAM_theman> no cvs is shit
[03:47] <geno_> johndarkhorse: and then I compile it?
[03:47] <defendguin> fdelacruz, that they change ports while i wasnt looking
[03:47] <Amaranth> kevogod: hrm, that's odd
[03:48] <kevogod> Amaranth, In the Menu editor program, all will appear as well, but it is trapped in reality.
[03:48] <defendguin> s/that/did
[03:48] <jamesschend> Anyone?  If I upgrade to breezy badger with Firefox installed will it, in the words of the guide, "stop the upgrade at a very inconvenient stage?" or not?
[03:48] <Amaranth> kevogod: afaik that was like that in 0.7 too
[03:48] <Amaranth> kevogod: oh, then that's a bug
[03:48] <kevogod> Amaranth, Yes. :P
[03:48] <mauricio> my problem is that i just want to download once to put the software to machines that are not connected to the internet
[03:48] <Amaranth> kevogod: I thought you meant _in alacarte_ you couldn't get it out.
[03:48] <DShepherd> has anyone ever setup hardware acceleration for there ATI card?
[03:49] <kevogod> Amaranth, The same behavior is in SMEG and Alarcarte.
[03:49] <MartyFouts> jamesschend: i've upgraded two machines with firefox installed and neither has had a problem.
[03:49] <kevogod> *Alacarte
[03:49] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: I understand the whole 'restricted formats' rules and what-not, but, the online radio stations are able to be played w/ XMMS, so -- why not amaroK?
[03:49] <jamesschend> Somebody should change those install notes, then.
[03:49] <Amaranth> kevogod: ok, so it's at least not a regression :)
[03:49] <jamesschend> That's really confusing.
[03:49] <jamesschend> Thanks for the help.
[03:49] <kevogod> Amaranth, heh :-)
[03:49] <DShepherd> has anyone ever setup hardware acceleration for there ATI card?
[03:49] <dabaR> DShepherd: yes many. have you read the wiki?
[03:49] <MartyFouts> which notes are you looking at?
[03:49] <fdelacruz> defendguin,before I try that printing using cups and it was a succesfull,wait I will try that
[03:49] <sizzam> is there a way to specify a fixed width for items in the window selector (taskbar) so all the items are always the same width and dont bounce around in size
[03:49] <jamesschend> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:49] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: xmms is in universe so it can come with mp3 support
[03:49] <kevogod> Amaranth, I found that out last time when I was messing with your alpha version. I had to manually get it back to par.
[03:49] <jamesschend> Step one, specifically.  It says to remove Firefox before upgrading.
[03:50] <jamesschend> And it says to remove "conflicting packages" without telling you which ones are conflicting or how to tell.
[03:50] <johndarkhorse> geno_: i'm not sure, you'll have to read the docs
[03:50] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: what does 'in universe' mean?
[03:50] <Amaranth> kevogod: at least you can just revert everything in this version to get it back :)
[03:50] <mauricio> ok, i see that I will have to do it with an ambulant HDD and download the entire repositories
[03:50] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: in the universe repository
[03:50] <DShepherd> dabaR: there's some instrutions in the Starter guide but I get a fatal errror when I run sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:50] <defendguin> fdelacruz, how did you setup your printer
[03:50] <mauricio> anyway I'll be around to help a little
[03:50] <DShepherd> dabaR: any cue why?
[03:50] <bimberi> Amaranth: hm, it looks like my uninstall of nxclient has left my menus in a state that alacarte doesn't like - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3321
[03:50] <MartyFouts> only if you have both mozilla-firefox *and* firefox, i think
[03:50] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: what's the diff from universe and multiverse?
[03:50] <SAM_theman> http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/
[03:50] <SAM_theman> go to this site it ROCKS
[03:50] <SAM_theman> all the linux Apps u need
[03:50] <jamesschend> Well, they should tell you how to find conflicting packages in any case.
[03:51] <bimberi> leetcharmer: universe is for Free software, multiverse for non-Free
[03:51] <MartyFouts> true
[03:51] <jamesschend> Since there's nothing there telling what they are.
[03:51] <leetcharmer> ah
[03:51] <jamesschend> Anyway, I'm going to do the upgrade.
[03:51] <dabaR> SAM_theman: you should not do that. It is like spam, although I personally do not care, most ops mind it.
[03:51] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: xmms is probably in multiverse, multiverse is the part of universe where legally questionable things go
[03:51] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: Please don't spam/post warez links here.
[03:51] <fernando> hi all, anyone have performance problem with opengl in 4.10 ?
[03:52] <fdelacruz> defendguin, I use the printing manager,and it works for me
[03:52] <leetcharmer> Amaranth: so -- audio applications have different codec support? like -- one can have mp3 codec support whereas the other one that should, doesn't?
[03:52] <leetcharmer> like -- native support, instead of system-wide support
[03:52] <fdelacruz> either using CUPS or windows sharing
[03:52] <SAM_theman> ?
[03:52] <liable> what does the ppp network connection thing use? pon/poff?
[03:52] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: if one is in main and the other is in universe or multiverse, yes
[03:52] <SAM_theman> wtf u talking about
[03:52] <defendguin> fdelacruz, it doesnt here just crashes with the error it cant find the cups server but cupsd is running
[03:52] <leetcharmer> ah, ok
[03:52] <Amaranth> leetcharmer: usually the one in main can get mp3 support by installing an extra package
[03:52] <kevogod> SAM_theman, Do not spam sites. OK Thanks.
[03:53] <DShepherd> dabaR: Thanks...I'll go the the wiki first next time
[03:53] <mauricio> leercharme: anyway if you want mp3 in your ubuntu box use gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:53] <leetcharmer> thx :D, reinstalling Ubuntu again :p
[03:53] <fdelacruz> try to upgrade your cups
[03:53] <sector10> arrgh: anybody know how to configure touchpad?
[03:53] <brenner> fernando: what vid card? and what driver are you using?
[03:53] <fdelacruz> sudo apt-get upgrade cups
[03:53] <Amaranth> bimberi: bug in pyxdg
[03:53] <fdelacruz> or try to reinstall
[03:53] <Amaranth> bimberi: i actually think that's fixed in pyxdg CVS
[03:53] <dabaR> DShepherd: welcome.
[03:53] <sector10> !synaptic
[03:53] <ubotu> I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:53] <redrose> how do i check how much free space i have in bash
[03:54] <brenner> redrose: df -h
[03:54] <dabaR> DShepherd: the bot knows most common keywords
[03:54] <bimberi> Amaranth: kk - i'm having a look and /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/nxclient.menu is a broken symlink - i'll try removing it
[03:54] <fernando> brenner intel mobile i915, dri enable, but slow
[03:54] <protokol> i remember that i used to be able to type "preferences:" into the nautalius location bar to get to the folder
[03:54] <sector10> !synaptics
[03:54] <ubotu> sector10: Syntax error in line 1
[03:54] <protokol> i cant do that now
[03:54] <redrose> ?what is a program that will tell me what services start with my computer?
[03:54] <brenner> sector10: is that a synaptics touchpad?
[03:54] <leetcharmer> hmm -- does anyone know why Ubuntu can't pickup shared network printers? other distros can
[03:54] <DShepherd> dabaR: Kool thanks
[03:54] <sector10> brenner: yes
[03:55] <sector10> brenner: sony vaio. i got windows opening by themselves on occasion
[03:55] <SAM_theman> srry people
[03:55] <redrose> ?
[03:55] <dabaR> SAM_theman: no prob, you did not know:)
[03:55] <Mrl33t> Why do I get this error when trying to install wine?
[03:55] <Mrl33t> CBase::AutoConf:GetWinInstalls: unable to grep /media/0 GB Disk (sdb1)/msdos.sys: child process exited abnormally
[03:55] <SAM_theman> :D
[03:55] <natezenmaster> can anyone give me a link to a tutorial or some kind of guide on linux, ubuntu, etc..?
[03:56] <SAM_theman> my dad said to sqay srry :D
[03:56] <brenner> sector10: it basically involves editing your xorg.conf file
[03:56] <sector10> brenner: ubuntu is not stable enough for this notebook or visa versa
[03:56] <SAM_theman> *say
[03:56] <kjon> natezenmaster: www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:56] <natezenmaster> I ordered a book on it but I'd like to get started learning right now
[03:56] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:56] <dabaR> Mrl33t: you are not doing it properly. what wine are you installing? from universe? that should be one line...
[03:56] <dabaR> kjon: do not do that.
[03:56] <brenner> sector10: oh, sorry....if it's just the one problem...hmm
[03:56] <sector10> brenner: I was hoping that ksynaptics would work
[03:56] <PovRayMan> i installed 5.04, then did apt-get dist-upgrade and now i'm on 5.10.  Since doing so I've had problems using update-manager.  I get authentication errors with the ftp, and then errors saying another program like apt-get or aptitude is running when I try to get packages.
[03:56] <liable> is there any docs for the network settings app?
[03:56] <kjon> dabaR: Why not? Did I do something wrong?
[03:56] <brenner> sector10: not familiar with it. what do you mean by wdows opening by themselves?
[03:57] <dabaR> kjon: read what ubotu told you.
[03:57] <SAM_theman> ok listen :d
[03:57] <richard_has_spok> is qemu pretty good on 5.1?
[03:57] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:57] <Mrl33t> dabar:  i got the "winesetuptk" and then ran /usr/bin/winesetup
[03:57] <SAM_theman> my dad has ubuntu 5.10 instaslled right P
[03:57] <sector10> brenner: if i even move mouse don menus, a program will open. maybe too sensative
[03:57] <SAM_theman> can he get 3d enable
[03:57] <dabaR> PovRayMan: did you read the topic? is it gpg or 404 errors?
[03:57] <kjon> dabaR: okay, thanks for scolding me... :P
[03:57] <PovRayMan> i gog gpg and 404 errors
[03:57] <brenner> fernando: i assume that's onboard, it's gonna be slow anyway.....but where do you get slowness? an app? glxgears?
[03:57] <sector10> brenner: the tapping is too sensative. do you know how to change that?
[03:58] <kevogod> SAM_theman, What type of Video card does he have?
[03:58] <PovRayMan> (sorry about not noticing, i'm still new to IRSSI)
[03:58] <dabaR> kjon: sure:) I know its like, not nice to do in public, thats why I said it as a fact...
[03:58] <MESCAL> does anybody had installation problems on 2 step in reboot?
[03:58] <SAM_theman> Ati Readeoon 7000
[03:58] <dabaR> PovRayMan: thats fine.
[03:58] <SAM_theman> (64)
[03:58] <Toma-> does anyone else think that glxgears tag is a bit silly?
[03:58] <brenner> sector10: yeah, like i said, it basically involves editing your xorg.conf file...but i'm not sure if there's a tapping sensitivity option. :)
[03:58] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:58] <brenner> sector10: /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/README.gz
[03:58] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: For that card 3D support should work without doing any extra work.
[03:59] <SAM_theman> lol he gets like 127fps :D
[03:59] <redrose> how do i check what services start up with my computer?
[03:59] <kevogod> SAM_theman, 127 fps in what?
[03:59] <brenner> sector10: you can also google for someone else's file
[03:59] <sector10> brenner: thanks, I just thought they would have a gui config program like some other distros.
[03:59] <bimberi> Amaranth: The new icon selector is cool :)
[03:59] <Hobbsee> redrose: you can use "top" in a terminal to see what programs are running currently, not sure about at startup
[03:59] <dooglus> redrose: you look in /etc/rc2.d/
[04:00] <dooglus> redrose: the ones with 'S' start.  the ones with 'K' don't
[04:00] <brenner> sector10: most likely is...i just did it that way.
[04:00] <dabaR> redrose: are you using ubuntu 5.10 breezy? it has a services under System>admin.
[04:00] <Amaranth> bimberi: It's just a stock GNOME widget. :)
[04:00] <redrose> no, hoary
[04:00] <Toma-> redrose: you can use bum/rcconf/kcontrol
[04:00] <brenner> sector10: search the repo for synaptics
[04:00] <dooglus> dabaR: breezy's 'services' list is partial at best
[04:00] <dabaR> ok, then do what dooglus told you, redrose .
[04:00] <sector10> brenner: thanks, let me ask you are you using wirless?
[04:00] <fernando> brenner 3890 frames in 5.0 seconds = 777.983 FPS
[04:00] <SAM_theman> the site u gave me is for 5.04?
[04:00] <bimberi> Amaranth: yeah i know, a good switch imho :)
[04:00] <brenner> sector10: no
[04:00] <dabaR> dooglus: I find it ridiculous almost:) I mean, maybe to become a useful thing...
[04:01] <dabaR> dooglus: for new sysadmins:)
[04:01] <kevogod> SAM_theman, Where does this 127 fps figure come from? What game/program?
[04:01] <sector10> brenner: Im trying to find a good way to manage wireless connections. ive come from kde
[04:01] <Milk_> Hello again!  I finally managed to get dist-upgrade to finnish the breezy upgrade, but now I can no longer start X
[04:01] <Milk_> its telling me it "Caught error 11"
[04:01] <dabaR> SAM_theman: ubotu gave it to you, raed it.
[04:01] <Milk_> any ideas?
[04:01] <johndarkhorse> Amaranth: have you hacked a difference into alacarte today?
[04:01] <durt> i get 2 fps in bzflag :[
[04:02] <kkathman> Milk_: have you tried rebooting yet? and checking?
[04:02] <SAM_theman> well he doesn't play games
[04:02] <Milk_> kkathman, yes
[04:02] <brenner> sector10: yeah, not too sure sorry.  if you prefer KDE, you do know that you can install it alongside gnome don't you?
[04:02] <Amaranth> johndarkhorse: you mean is it different than the one i was giving out yesterday?
[04:02] <dabaR> Milk_: have you ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:02] <brenner> sector10: there's also kubuntu
[04:02] <SAM_theman> he just wants 3dscreensavers and a 3dprogram thats really cool
[04:02] <Milk_> dabaR, you know.. I haven't.. lemme try that
[04:02] <sector10> brenner: yep thanks. i may just select a few progrc. ams. ive had some issues with desktop switching kdm or gdm et
[04:02] <SAM_theman> i get 8700fps underslaky
[04:02] <dabaR> just enter through it pretty much, I do that, although, ymmv, what graphs card do you have? tell me after you try that.
[04:02] <SAM_theman> 10.2 :D
[04:03] <Amaranth> johndarkhorse: A _LOT_ has changed from yesterday.
[04:03] <SAM_theman> ok now my dad is having a problem realplay is not working?
[04:03] <brenner> fernando: yeah, have you tried something else? from what i hear, it's not really a good bechmark
[04:03] <SAM_theman> no sound and error
[04:03] <Ekibyougami> i have an SiS onboard gpu wee
[04:03] <johndarkhorse> Amaranth: then nalioth and aabot look forward to getting the latest URL
[04:03] <Ekibyougami> i need to get ahold of an ati mobility and a desoldering braid
[04:03] <defendguin> ubuntu fuzking stinks
[04:03] <Maikeru> ...
[04:03] <Milk_> dabaR, I just ran the reconfigure and still got the same error
[04:04] <richard_has_spok> go away
[04:04] <sector10> brenner: ubuntu was working for me better for some reason. kubuntu i had some issues.
[04:04] <kevogod> defendguin, Sorry, no refunds.
[04:04] <defendguin> kevogod, hehe
[04:04] <sector10> defendguin: why? whats wrong?
[04:04] <dabaR> SAM_theman: why use ? when not asking something... Tell us about the package you installed, and how you did it(the realplayer one...)
[04:04] <defendguin> sector10, problem with cupsd
[04:04] <brenner> sector10: that's interesting....i thought they have pretty much the same backend
[04:04] <defendguin> gnome-cups-manager says cups server isnt running sector10
[04:04] <dabaR> brenner: backend is same, just the desktop apps are diff.
[04:05] <MESCAL> hi boot problems with ubuntu can you help me?
[04:05] <dabaR> MESCAL: depending on how much info you tell us about it.
[04:05] <defendguin> sector10, but cupsd is infact running and i cant get to the cups web interface either
[04:05] <jackmacokc> can someone recommend a good system resource monitor for breezy *besides* the built in stuff?
[04:05] <brenner> dabaR: yeah, that's what i thought. thanks
[04:05] <Amaranth> johndarkhorse: well, maybe not a huge ammount, but one large feature, lots of fixes, and lots of extra polish
[04:05] <sector10> brenner: it is intersting, but I have tired and its a time killer. no wireless, package updating was not working and some other things
[04:05] <mauricio> MESCAL: Of couse shoot
[04:05] <defendguin> jackmacokc, TOP
[04:05] <dabaR> jackmacokc: terminal ones, ya, top like he said, and there is others.
[04:05] <defendguin> top is the best
[04:06] <SAM_theman> ok i am back
[04:06] <fernando> brenner i have tried all, various packages, configurations, and nothing. with 5.04 it work fine, after upgrade to 5.10 it is slow
[04:06] <SAM_theman> ok he instALL The .bin realplay from realplay.com
[04:06] <Milk_> anyone have any thoughts on this one?
[04:06] <SAM_theman> it didn't work at first
[04:06] <lsald> i just did a dist-upgrade and mysql is f'd up
[04:06] <SAM_theman> had an error
[04:06] <brenner> fernando: er, i thought you were still runing warty?
[04:06] <SAM_theman> like missing libs ++5....
[04:06] <MESCAL> ok i've installed ubuntu on the 2 partition where already there was win xp
[04:06] <SAM_theman> thats when i came on here
[04:06] <Milk_> lsald, have you tried removing and reinstalling?
[04:06] <jackmacokc> defendguin, dabaR: any gui based ones?
[04:06] <SAM_theman> then one of u guys said use apt-get
[04:07] <dabaR> MESCAL: you cant have two OSs on the same partition.
[04:07] <lsald> Milk_, will i lose my current DBs
[04:07] <MESCAL> but on reboot i see only a cursor flashing
[04:07] <Milk_> lsald, did you do a backup on them?
[04:07] <MESCAL> ok so thats the probb
[04:07] <SAM_theman> which ubout are u guys using?
[04:07] <jackmacokc> SAM_theman, breezy
[04:07] <defendguin> jackmacokc, top is the best one everything is just a gui front end for it
[04:07] <dabaR> whats ubout?
[04:07] <SAM_theman> *ubuntu
[04:07] <sector10> the new one
[04:07] <mauricio> MESCAL: Wait a minute, how many partitions you have?
[04:08] <dabaR> 5.10 now.
[04:08] <lsald> Milk_, that would have been smart....
[04:08] <MESCAL> 2
[04:08] <Milk_> anyone have any thoughts on why X won't start after upgrading to breezy?
[04:08] <MESCAL> no
[04:08] <SAM_theman> anyone are 5.04
[04:08] <natezenmaster> pls help; from ubuntuguide.org; guide lists various programs to install from install/update/download programs - but what URL is this linked to?
[04:08] <fernando> brenner i'm using breezy
[04:08] <Milk_> lsald.. well.... you might be out of luck
[04:08] <Mrl33t> can someone help me install wine
[04:08] <MESCAL> 1 for win and 2 for ubuntu
[04:08] <dabaR> SAM_theman: I used it for 6 months...
[04:08] <jackmacokc> defendguin: i see -- but i'm after guis...so any good recommendation for a gui frontend
[04:08] <mauricio> MESCAL: In the first one you have windows and in the other ubunto no_
[04:08] <lsald> Milk_, you have nvidia?
[04:08] <mauricio> ?
[04:08] <Milk_> lsald, yes
[04:08] <SAM_theman> does 5.04 have realplay?
[04:08] <dabaR> Mrl33t: sudo aptitude install wine, after enabling universe.
[04:09] <brenner> fernando: have you hit the forum?
[04:09] <MESCAL> right mauricio
[04:09] <dabaR> SAM_theman: ask ubotu, he told you how to ask him.../msg ubotu info realplay hoary
[04:09] <dabaR> SAM_theman: and, ya, there is. version 8.
[04:09] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ok so you installed from CD and it detected that you have another OS
[04:09] <sn> hola alguien de chile
[04:09] <Bicchi> My Firefox extensions are not updating?
[04:09] <MESCAL> yes,right
[04:09] <dabaR> sn: is that spanish?
[04:09] <fernando> brenner i find all forum, and not found
[04:09] <SAM_theman> o ok:D
[04:10] <jackmacokc> Bicchi: have you restarted firefox?
[04:10] <Mrl33t> thanks
[04:10] <sector10> brenner: thanks for the help. I think KDE is better for my notebook except for kubuntu. It has all the simple apps.
[04:10] <sizzam> could someone please give me the default Min/Max size values from the 'size' tab in Window List Preferences?
[04:10] <Bicchi> jackmacokc: yes
[04:10] <MESCAL> but i did something wrong with fixmdr
[04:10] <SAM_theman> also is there dvd for ubuntu?
[04:10] <mauricio> MESCAL: and told you to install grub with dual boot no?
[04:10] <Bicchi> jackmacokc: they screen just hangs there while it downloads.
[04:10] <bimberi> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3324
[04:10] <Milk_> SAM_teman, yes
[04:10] <MESCAL> and now i cannot even make dir
[04:10] <SAM_theman> in apt-get
[04:10] <spencerk> where can i install a cool desktop widgets like the ones in aston for xp
[04:10] <Milk_> lsald, is there something special I need to do?
[04:10] <SAM_theman> becasue i don't see it
[04:11] <dabaR> SAM_theman: yes, on the web site.
[04:11] <Mrl33t> ok... i THINK i have wine installed
[04:11] <mauricio> MESCAL: Oh, that's other thing. I think you messed up with the MBR
[04:11] <erirlar> when i try to run glxgears it gives me no output, any ide? i installed the nvidia-glx drivers like it sayd in the wiki
[04:11] <sizzam> spencerk:  have you heard of gdesklets?
[04:11] <SAM_theman> www.gdesklets.com
[04:11] <dabaR> Mrl33t: good work, ever heard of #winehq?
[04:11] <spencerk> nope, thanks
[04:11] <Mrl33t> nope
[04:11] <SAM_theman> i use that
[04:11] <MESCAL> yes i've sayd yes when he asked me that
[04:11] <Mrl33t> but now i have ;)
[04:11] <SAM_theman> shits cool
[04:11] <sector10> !touchpad
[04:11] <ubotu> No idea, sector10
[04:11] <mauricio> MESCAL: so definitely you cannot boot GRUP
[04:11] <dabaR> Mrl33t: well, its on freenode
[04:11] <MESCAL> i think i've lost the partitions
[04:11] <[snape] > hola
[04:11] <Milk_> brb
[04:11] <jackmacokc> Bicchi: sorry, i'd ask again..i've never seen that before
[04:11] <OsirisX> anyone know how i can install skype on amd 64?
[04:11] <dabaR> MESCAL: aer you in windows, or ubuntu?
[04:11] <mauricio> MESCAL: Don't worry everything is not lost
[04:12] <MESCAL> win now
[04:12] <[snape] > hay alguien de chile
[04:12] <Amaranth> ugh i'm lagging bad
[04:12] <MESCAL> i hope
[04:12] <gusto5> hiya
[04:12] <gusto5> anyone know how to write a printer driver
[04:12] <gusto5> ?
[04:12] <mauricio> MESCAL: Do you have any knoppix around?
[04:12] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ok find it and follow these instructions
[04:12] <mauricio> MESCAL: Wtite this down
[04:13] <dabaR> does anyone know how to write a printer driver, thats a good one.
[04:13] <MESCAL> knoppix is a linux version?
[04:13] <MESCAL> ok
[04:13] <dabaR> its a live cd, yes.
[04:13] <Amaranth> bimberi: oops, that isn't supposed to get called for new entries, i forgot to remove the callback
[04:13] <OsirisX> hah. i can't believe he doesn't know how to write a printer driver. n00b.
[04:13] <Milk_> ok.. back.. still looking for help on X not starting after breezy upgrade
[04:13] <dabaR> OsirisX: :)
[04:13] <mauricio> MESCAL: First of all boot from knoppix
[04:13] <MESCAL> ok
[04:13] <dabaR> Milk_: what graphs card, I asked you.
[04:14] <mauricio> MESCAL: Then bring up a console
[04:14] <Milk_> error is : Caught Signal 11.  Server Aborting
[04:14] <k-0tik> milk_ are you on a laptop?
[04:14] <Amaranth> bimberi: the app should keep working though, right?
[04:14] <Milk_> dabaR, I must have missed it... its an nvidia gforce
[04:14] <Mrl33t> #winehq is shy ;) on wine usage, its says "wine PROGRAM [Arguments] ".  can a run a program off of my mounted windows partition?
[04:14] <Milk_> k-0tik, no
[04:14] <OsirisX> can't get flash or skype to work on my athlon64 hoary. :I
[04:14] <OsirisX> or java
[04:14] <mauricio> MESCAL: Write "su root" on the console
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: yes, as long as it doenst have to write anything there
[04:14] <dabaR> Milk_: have you tried going through the wiki page for nvidia?
[04:14] <OsirisX> or ati. :(
[04:14] <Milk_> OsirisX, got any more details?
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: i've run solitare straight off there before
[04:15] <Mrl33t> so steam/css wouldn't work? ;)
[04:15] <Bicchi> My Firefox extensions are not updating? The screen just hangs there and nothing downloads.
[04:15] <bimberi> Amaranth: yep, continues fine
[04:15] <Milk_> dabaR, I tried the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, and got nothing
[04:15] <Madpilot> OsirisX: AMD64 doesn't work w/ Flash, I think. check the Ubuntu wiki, though
[04:15] <dabaR> OsirisX: ever heard of chroot?
[04:15] <mauricio> MESCAL: and mount the partition with ubuntu
[04:15] <Mrl33t> i would have to install steam to my linux partition?
[04:15] <mauricio> MESCAL: Are you following me?
[04:15] <MESCAL> yes
[04:15] <OsirisX> osiris@egypt:~$ sudo dpkg -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb / dpkg: error processing skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb (--install): /  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[04:15] <MESCAL> writing down
[04:15] <dabaR> OsirisX: thats why you chroot.
[04:15] <mauricio> MESCAL: Do you know how to mount a partition?
[04:15] <OsirisX> umm?
[04:16] <MESCAL> i did it with ubuntu already
[04:16] <dabaR> I dont know nmuch about it, as I have a i386, but thats the answer people get when they ask that.
[04:16] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: i'd say so
[04:16] <PovRayMan> dabaR: ok, I think I got update-manager changed from the US server to a mirror, I didn't get any gpg or 404 errors
[04:16] <PovRayMan> thanks!
[04:16] <dabaR> PovRayMan: $20
[04:16] <PovRayMan> sure just let me
[04:16] <PovRayMan> BYE
[04:17] <mauricio> MESCAL:Well, in knoppix is very alike
[04:17] <dabaR> hah
[04:17] <MESCAL> the problem is that i dont know if the new partition must match the older
[04:17] <dabaR> MESCAL: match in what?
[04:17] <ciocanel> I want to use fetchmail to get my gmail email to maildir, is there a how to or smthing like that for ubuntu?
[04:17] <MESCAL> couse i dont wont to lose all my files
[04:17] <mauricio> MESCAL: Don't worry
[04:17] <Milk_> dabaR, I just checked the wiki again, the command they ahve for nvidia cards doesn't work
[04:18] <MESCAL> :)
[04:18] <mauricio> MESCAL: You just said that you have three partitions
[04:18] <OsirisX> i have to do a chroot to install skype?? that seems a bit excessive.  Isn't there an easier way?
[04:18] <dabaR> Milk_: whats your sources.list look like? you can use pastebin.
[04:18] <MESCAL> yes ntfs ext2 and swap
[04:18] <MESCAL> no sorry ntfs ext3 and swap
[04:18] <Milk_> dabaR, I can't use pastebin as I have no X to cut and paste with
[04:18] <dabaR> MESCAL: that sounds proper.
[04:19] <dabaR> Milk_: /join #flood
[04:19] <Milk_> dabaR, but my sources.list looks identical to the one listed in the upgrade wiki
[04:19] <OsirisX> Milk_: that's a good quote man haha
[04:19] <mauricio> MESCAL: I suppose that the second one is the Ubuntu system and the third is swap
[04:19] <MESCAL> right
[04:19] <mauricio> MESCAL: So when you are in knoppix you must mount hda2
[04:19] <TylerE> Is there an ubuntu equiv. to debian-unstable?
[04:19] <MESCAL> hda2 ok
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> TylerE: no
[04:20] <marcoaurelio> Hello. I've just given a course about Linux, using Ubuntu 5.10, and I got some errors in the installation. What are the log files that I should get before filling some bug reports?
[04:20] <MESCAL> hda1 should be win?
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> TylerE: not really
[04:20] <TylerE> drat
[04:20] <Amaranth> TylerE: you can run dapper before it's released
[04:20] <OsirisX> damnit. siwtching over to windows so i can use java, flash, and skype. :(
[04:20] <OsirisX> see you guys later
[04:20] <dabaR> MESCAL: yes, if that is your first partition.
[04:20] <Amaranth> TylerE: but so far nothing has changed
[04:20] <mauricio> MESCAL: And in the console (as root) you must write "chroot /mnt/hda2"
[04:20] <MESCAL> yes dabar
[04:20] <mauricio> MESCAL: Without the quotes of course
[04:21] <MESCAL> ok..writing...
[04:21] <brenner> marcoaurelio: that must've been embarrassing. :)
[04:21] <MESCAL> ok
[04:21] <marcoaurelio> brenner: actually, I really liked that! I mean, when there are errors, you have to fiddle with commands, students get pretty interested in those things
[04:21] <mauricio> MESCAL: Try to find a knoppix  > 3.7
[04:22] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ah one thing when you write "su root"
[04:22] <k-0tik> I'm tryin to burn my ubuntu 5.10, But i don't have anything that'll burn an iso, anybody know of anyfreeware that'll burn mor than 300mb?
[04:22] <mauricio> MESCAL: It asks for a password
[04:22] <mauricio> MESCAL: Just press enter cause in knoppix there is no root password
[04:22] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: well, what are the errors, and so on?
[04:22] <MESCAL> ok
[04:23] <starscalling> um
[04:23] <os2mac> K-otik: goto to google and search for open source ISO burner.
[04:23] <marcoaurelio> the students reaction was: "buy, that was awful, terrible, but was great, I've never learn so much about Linux!"
[04:23] <gusto5> anyone good with printers?
[04:23] <starscalling> is anyone else getting Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg
[04:23] <starscalling>   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[04:23] <starscalling>  error?
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> k-0tik, you mean in windows ?
[04:23] <mauricio> MESCAL: Well, next step
[04:23] <MESCAL> mauricio i have a live version but i dont know if is knoppix ,do you think could it work anyway?
[04:23] <marcoaurelio> mostly minor errors, like missing translations, a serial mouse not detected, sometimes the cd is eject before rebooting (sometimes not)
[04:24] <dabaR> starscalling: paste your sources.list file to pastebin.
[04:24] <johndarkhorse> starscalling: a resolve error means it cant see the archive
[04:24] <starscalling> yeah
[04:24] <brenner> marcoaurelio: must have good students then. :) most windows-lovers i know would use the broken install as an excuse not to use linux
[04:24] <starscalling> i have the one from the ubuntu pastebin gimme sec
[04:24] <jsubl2> marcoaurelio, sign up to have one shipped just in case
[04:24] <mauricio> MESCAL: Yes, if you can access as root and use the chroot command is good for you
[04:24] <marcoaurelio> a apt-get that halted at 50% till timeout (even when I asked to not get files from Internet)
[04:24] <MESCAL> ok
[04:25] <starscalling> dabaR: what is link for pastebin?
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[04:25] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:25] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: strange. I had no errors with the 5.04 myself
[04:25] <dabaR> starscalling: ubotu told you already.
[04:25] <mauricio> MESCAL: Well, after you write "chroot /mnt/hda2" you must write "grub-install /dev/hda"
[04:25] <marcoaurelio> dabaR: 5.10, 5.04 was just fine
[04:25] <starscalling> ya i see now
[04:25] <starscalling> sorry
[04:26] <mauricio> MESCAL: And that's all folks
[04:26] <marcoaurelio> dabaR: actually, I was installing 5.04 in my computer (while the students installed 5.10). My installation run just fine, theirs was messy!
[04:26] <MESCAL> finish?
[04:26] <gusto5> i need assistance with my okidata OL 600e. anyone?
[04:26] <mauricio> MESCAL: reboot and that must work for you
[04:26] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: heh.
[04:26] <mauricio> MESCAL: yeah
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> marcoaurelio, that sure gives a very bad impression of linux on those students
[04:26] <Mrl33t> is steampowered.com working for any of you?
[04:27] <MESCAL> thanks a lot mauricio i will try this!!!
[04:27] <mauricio> MESCAL: Anyway if you need further assistance write me to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:27] <dabaR> Mrl33t: ping it.
[04:27] <MESCAL> really thanks..
[04:27] <mauricio> MESCAL: Ok, be the source with you
[04:27] <jsubl2> Mrl33t, works for me
[04:27] <mauricio> MESCAL: :-)
[04:27] <marcoaurelio> wickedpuppy: as undergraduate students, they were pretty amazed as, even with such problems, everything could be solved and Ubuntu installed successfully
[04:28] <Mrl33t> its not working for me
[04:28] <marcoaurelio> wickedpuppy: it just get two hours (instead of twenty minutes)
[04:28] <Mrl33t> ping is just sitting there
[04:28] <Mrl33t> and the site isnt' coming up
[04:28] <brenner> marcoaurelio: what unit are you teaching?
[04:28] <MESCAL> yes the bright side of the source :)
[04:28] <sector10> brenner: I found that I should add fingerhigh=** for tapping problem. just to let you know
[04:28] <brenner> sector10: did it fix it?
[04:29] <sector10> im going to have to re-x
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> marcoaurelio, your next task is to explain to them why those things happened :P
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> if not they will think linux is a broken OS
[04:29] <starscalling> ok
[04:29] <starscalling> i think its a deeper problem
[04:29] <sarah> hi, I just installed ubuntu off a fresh CD. when it was installing, there was a dhcp part, which I had it skip. now, it won't automatically dhcp, and every time I boot I have to "Run as different user" -> "dhclient". What can I do?
[04:29] <marcoaurelio> 1st and 3rd year students of computer science, in a private university in Brazil
[04:29] <starscalling> as i cannot get to any website via http
[04:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't use my spdif connection since upgrading to breezy.  this seems to stop working every time i've done a major upgrade, sometimes even just switching kernel.  the red light comes on, but no sound.
[04:30] <DShepherd> anybody know any kool games that I can download for linux
[04:30] <DShepherd> frozen bubble rocks!!
[04:30] <kevogod> Frozen Bubble is indeed "Rockin'".
[04:30] <johndarkhorse> DShepherd: look in the 'games' section of your synaptic (make sure all your repos are enabled)
[04:30] <starscalling> though obviously i am online... and i WAS just on the web...
[04:30] <dabaR>  !
[04:30] <marcoaurelio> wickedpuppy: sure! Although I cannot expect them to understand everything :-)
[04:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd you should be able to find a list here. http://jfgi.us/
[04:30] <ubotu> dabaR: No idea
[04:30] <kevogod> Although I prefer a good game of Gnometris.
[04:30] <brenner> DShepherd: there's a games topic in the forum iirc
[04:30] <johndarkhorse> BROKEN_LADDER: that is uncalled for
[04:30] <paca> So, exactly what CAN I play with Totem?  Everything I try to play fails...  An avi file, a DVD...  I can't find anything that tells me where to install additional codecs or whatever.
[04:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> johndarkhorse no it's helpful.  it's a link to a google search.
[04:31] <kevogod> !restrictedformats
[04:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:31] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: It's rude.
[04:31] <paca> avi is a restricted format?
[04:31] <Nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: it is very inconsiderate
[04:31] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: he knows...
[04:31] <paca> Also, mplayer doesn't appear in any repositories, is there some trick to getting it too?
[04:32] <Amaranth> !repos
[04:32] <ubotu> well, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:32] <marcoaurelio> the log files recorded by Ubuntu's installation, someone knows where they are save?
[04:32] <Entranced> hey all
[04:32] <brenner> !tell paca about multimedia
[04:32] <kevogod> paca, DivX can be of the extension .avi.
[04:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol.  rude.  i don't know how many times i've asked a valid question here and been told to google it.
[04:32] <brenner> marcoaurelio: my guess is somewhere in /var/log
[04:33] <Nalioth> paca: open a terminal and type "apt-cache search mplayer" to find your pkg name (there are many mplayers)
[04:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> okay DShepherd , if you were offended, my apologies.
[04:33] <sarah> any ideas about my network problem?
[04:33] <marcoaurelio> I'll look at it now. Tomorrow I'll collect the computers log (before they are wiped out)
[04:33] <dabaR> sarah: did you state it?
[04:33] <sarah> yes
[04:33] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: yup, not every can be foot-di- cap some people have to be handicapp
[04:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> speaking of which..can anyone help me find out why my spdif suddenly stopped working when i upgraded to breezy, despite restoring asound.state and doing everything else imaginable.
[04:33] <DShepherd> :)
[04:33] <DShepherd> apology accepted
[04:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd heh..not sure i get your joke.
[04:34] <paca> Cool, thanks!
[04:34] <dabaR> sarah: I do not see it.
[04:34] <sarah> hi, I just installed ubuntu off a fresh CD. when it was installing, there was a dhcp part, which I had it skip. now, it won't automatically dhcp, and every time I boot I have to "Run as different user" -> "dhclient". What can I do?
[04:34] <dmy> hola
[04:34] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: Ok neva mind, I just wanted to get a personal view on the games that you guys like
[04:34] <kevogod> paca, Also, DVD support is illegal because you need to break encryption. You will need to get livdvdcss2 if it is legal in your country.
[04:34] <jsubl2> anyone using gnome with a different wm --- no metacity
[04:35] <Entranced> I have a quick one... I was trying to burn an ISO with Nautilus and the only option I have if to burn to "File Image"...my burner is not visible. OTOH when I use GnomeBaker I can burn CDs with no problems... Any ideas what is going on ?
[04:35] <dabaR> sarah: well, paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl and also, check what your System>Admin>Networking has to say, please.
[04:35] <Nalioth> Entranced: try k3b
[04:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd i like bejeweled
[04:35] <starscalling> um
[04:35] <starscalling> help~!~
[04:35] <sarah> ok
[04:35] <starscalling> i seem to have lost all ability to http
[04:35] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah yeah!! that fun!!
[04:35] <Entranced> Nalioth, It works when I use GnomeBaker...
[04:35] <starscalling> and i have no clue why..
[04:35] <starscalling> this xchat is still open..
[04:35] <bimberi> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3325 - also with that other issue the created entry doesn't run in the terminal (even though the checkbox is set)
[04:36] <kevogod> paca, Although the page I sent to you tells you all about that.
[04:36] <starscalling> no websites/browsers work at ALL :/
[04:36] <Mrl33t> how can i access my mounted windows partition with wine?
[04:36] <Nalioth> Entranced: try k3b, it has more features then gnomebacker. nautilus is not much good for burning disks, imho
[04:36] <starscalling> i e no new open connections
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> Mrl33t, you just have to mount ... why need wine ?
[04:36] <Entranced> Nalioth, I'm trying to stick to Gnome as much as possible... no need to install KDE stuff on this box
[04:36] <Mrl33t> i mounted my windows hdd and want to do some stuff on it with wine
[04:36] <sarah> System > Admin > Networking crashes
[04:37] <Mrl33t> like load some programs
[04:37] <starscalling> Nalioth: what could cause my outgoing internet to crap out.. just on new connections though?
[04:37] <DShepherd> anybody else have any favourite games you like?
[04:37] <dabaR> sarah: that's good...not:) paste that file.
[04:37] <Toma-> how do you find out what packages depend on another package?
[04:37] <propagandhi> k3b is a damn good burning app though
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> Mrl33t, then type wine /mounted/drive/programname.exe
[04:37] <Nalioth> starscalling: can you hit numerical IPs?
[04:37] <Entranced> k3b is very nice indeed
[04:38] <starscalling> mind giving me one Nalioth ?
[04:38] <sarah> dabaR, done
[04:38] <dabaR> use any of the ones you see people coming and leaving channels...
[04:38] <Nalioth> starscalling: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:38] <bimberi> Toma-: apt-cache show <package> | grep Depends
[04:39] <Toma-> thanks!
[04:39] <bimberi> yw :)
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> starscalling, PING google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:39] <starscalling> bingo!
[04:39] <dabaR> Nalioth: do you use dhcp?
[04:39] <informant> starscalling: dns issue?
[04:39] <sarah> oh, wait -- system > admin > networking didn't crash, it just took 5 minutes to appear. I thought it had crashed because a windows called "Starting network..." opened and closed
[04:40] <Nalioth> dabaR: yes i do
[04:40] <dabaR> sarah: whats it say, enabled?
[04:40] <defendguin> hey i cant ping my own machine
[04:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> [19:35]  <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah yeah!! that fun!! <-- bwah hah hah
[04:40] <defendguin> i think its causing printer problems
[04:40] <dabaR> Nalioth: please paste your interfaces file to pastebin.
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, ping localhost or ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:40] <starscalling> let me add some dns's then
[04:40] <sarah> eth0 was disabled. I clicked properties, enabled it, and put it into dhcp mode
[04:40] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, both
[04:40] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: huh? I dont seem to get your joke
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> both can't ?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, ifconfig
[04:40] <kevogod> Has anyone been able to compile tango-icon-theme-0.3.1 on Ubuntu?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> see if you got lo0
[04:40] <dabaR> sarah: that should be it. go check your interfaces file again.
[04:40] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, the lo interface isnt up
[04:40] <dabaR> and paste it off course. sarah .
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd are you a native english speaker?
[04:41] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, just ath0  <-- wireless card
[04:41] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: Yes I can speak English well
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd okay..it was just a funny typo then.  "that funny"
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> made me chuckle.
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> err.. "that fun"
[04:41] <Mrl33t> what are some utilities to make linux speed up?  something like defrag in windows
[04:41] <Nalioth> dabaR: i'm on a mac atm
[04:41] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, any ideas?
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> ok now .. ifconfig lo up ? i don't know how to make loopback up lol
[04:41] <ecobuntu> irssi rules!
[04:41] <Toma-> anyone tried installing tk/tcl8.5?
[04:42] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: i'm Jamaican .... it's my dialect
[04:42] <Nalioth> dabaR: at the office
[04:42] <dabaR> Nalioth: actually, we may have resolved it using the GUI, thanks.
[04:42] <martalli> mrl33tL:  Seems like upgrading your kernel is the hing to do
[04:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd that shouldn't change the way you type.
[04:42] <Mrl33t> well.. i just threw this linux on an old slow drive
[04:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd "that funny" isn't proper english.
[04:42] <Mrl33t> and want to make it go as fast as i can get it
[04:42] <DShepherd> it doesnt....
[04:42] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: So?
[04:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> you typed "that fun" instead of "that's fun"
[04:42] <dabaR> sarah: yes, that should be it. Care to reboot to find out at all?
[04:42] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: It's english, that's close enough.
[04:42] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, ok that brought it up
[04:42] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: but it is patios
[04:43] <starscalling> awesome~!!!! yet again you win the prize !!! <3 the nalioth
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> no it's not english.
[04:43] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: very english like
[04:43] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, woo hoo i can ping my machine now
[04:43] <pepsi> why are you arguing about it? who cares
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> this lady i work with always says, "i seen.."  drives me nuts.
[04:43] <kevogod> that fun!! heha
[04:43] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: Can you change your nick please? All uppercase looks like yelling.
[04:43] <dabaR> starscalling: networking is one thing you can usually get away with here...
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth http://brokenladder.com/
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:43] <stephen_> hi. i have breezy installed. how do i get it so i can install windows?
[04:43] <starscalling> :)
[04:43] <martalli> I'm suprised at that strick grammar rules here.  In #mandriva, they just want to avoid foul language (in french too =)
[04:43] <Hobbsee> !tell stephen_ about dualboot
[04:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth i do not support the use of case sensitivity, and i think lowercase letters should be aboloshed.
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, that was me randomly coming up with the answer :P
[04:44] <starscalling> i guess one of my isp's dns servers is down or something :P
[04:44] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: Thanks for the spam. Can you switch to broken_ladder?
[04:44] <kevogod> BROKEN_LADDER, You are then an idiot.
[04:44] <martalli> stephen - better to install windows first if you want a dual boot machine
[04:44] <dabaR> martalli: it makes it easier to understand.
[04:44] <stephen_> hmm
[04:44] <dabaR> Amaranth: he never does:)
[04:44] <Hobbsee> martalli: well, you do have people from all over the world - good grammar means less misunderstandings
[04:44] <Mrl33t> what exactly is breezy?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> !breezy
[04:44] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth if you really dislike my name, please put me on ignore.  i don't ask you to change yours.
[04:44] <johndarkhorse> martalli: we avoid foul language when possible
[04:44] <Ron_o> windows will take over your MBR.... heh, what a monster, hey? :->
[04:44] <johndarkhorse> cyl
[04:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> Amaranth that's a simple fix that shouldn't put you out anything.
[04:44] <martalli> johndarkhorse - I would think so
[04:44] <dabaR> Mrl33t: a code name for ubuntu 5.10 read the MarkShuttleworth page on the wiki for some history.
[04:45] <Amaranth> Mrl33t: It's Ubuntu 5.10, the latest release.
[04:45] <DShepherd> BROKEN_LADDER: I dont ask you to change yours... now that's not english :)
[04:45] <Mrl33t> you have to install windows first
[04:45] <dabaR> sarah: so?
[04:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> DShepherd of course it is.
[04:45] <gusto5> Mrl33t, always?
[04:45] <Mrl33t> amaranth:  ok... i just keep hearing breezy and dont know what they're talking about.  i have 5.10
[04:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm having an x related problem.
[04:45] <Hobbsee> Mrl33t: yep, same thing by two names
[04:45] <martalli> Windows wants to be at the start of the primary drive.  It will be buggy or useless elsewhere.  In stall it first and nix its bootloader with the b/l of your [distro's]  choice
[04:45] <codemech_> hey, i'm new at this and got told ubuntu is better then gentoo, came someone advise me me to as why and what the real differences are plz :)
[04:45] <Amaranth> BROKEN_LADDER: Last warning.
[04:45] <Mrl33t> gusto5:  i dunno.  thats what i did.  im not sure how windows will react if linux is there fisrt
[04:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> whenever i log out of my x session, the gdm/kdm comes up (i can hear it) but the monitor goes to sleep.  same happens if i try to start a new session in a new window.
[04:45] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, well i figuered it was lo  that was the problem i havent had to do /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up in years
[04:46] <martalli> codemech_ The biggest difference is with gentoo -it will take foreevr to install
[04:46] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, do you have any idea why lo wouldnt come up when i boot the computer?
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> codemech_, pls don't ask this kind of questions ... pls
[04:46] <dabaR> Amaranth: he does not change his nick...
[04:46] <martalli> \because genoo must be compiled from source
[04:46] <Amaranth> dabaR: Then he does not talk.
[04:46] <loon> ugh
[04:46] <Mrl33t> yea.... i noticed that when i installed it today
[04:46] <Mrl33t> it took FOREVER
[04:46] <loon> im still on this thing
[04:46] <Mrl33t> lol
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> defendguin, my lo is up when i boot .. i never have to bring it up
[04:46] <martalli> ubuntu has gobs of software ready to go
[04:47] <ecobuntu> gentoo=global warming due to unnecessary recompiling
[04:47] <codemech_> wickedpupy_: soo sorry kinda new at this
[04:47] <ecobuntu> why not LFS if you're going to use gentoo?
[04:47] <Ron_o> I guess the which OS is better query, is kind of like the old debate of which Martial Art is the best.
[04:47] <dabaR> me too
[04:47] <dabaR> sarah__: troubles?
[04:48] <yaul> hello, i am trying to play starcraft on linux. the install was fine and i could play if wine could find the cdrom. is there a way to tell wine where the cd is mounted and have it use that?
[04:48] <ecobuntu> apt-get install voom voom
[04:48] <martalli> gentoo is for the real l33t and folks with lots of spare time
[04:48] <ecobuntu> who is sarah?
[04:48] <sector10> when i reboot my wep key is gone and i have to redo the entire wireless..
[04:48] <ecobuntu> i don't have enough time for gentoo
[04:48] <sarah__> dabaR, I don't know. I got disconnected for some reason..but I bet changing that network setting fixed it
[04:48] <ecobuntu> i have work
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> codemech_, all distros go for different users ... gentoo is for those who like to tweak .. i used gentoo before and its amazing ... i am using ubuntu and also its amazing ...  which is better ? linux is better for both of them :P
[04:48] <dabaR> ecobuntu: well, one of the people on the channel.
[04:48] <sarah__> I'm going to reboot, and if I don't come back in here, it worked... so thanks for your help
[04:48] <dabaR> sarah__: care to try rebooting?
[04:48] <Ron_o> codemech_: , if you're new at this then Ubuntu might be for you.
[04:48] <dabaR> welcome
[04:48] <ecobuntu> oh
[04:49] <Mrl33t> Ubuntu is pretty good to start out on
[04:49] <Mrl33t> i've only been using linux for a few hours and i've learned loads ;)
[04:49] <sector10> does anyone knwo where the applets are?
[04:49] <sector10> like netapplet?
[04:49] <dabaR> what applets, sector10
[04:49] <dabaR> in your panel.
[04:49] <Mrl33t> when using wine, where do i pick to install something (* cough * steam)
[04:49] <mauricio> LADDER: Ok shoot
[04:49] <sector10> i installed netapplet, but nowhere to be found
[04:49] <defendguin> wickedpuppy, thats the way it has always been but not for me tonight
[04:50] <Mrl33t> when the installer says pick installation directory
[04:50] <codemech_> Ron_o: thanks that the kinda help i need, its still all a bit forign to me
[04:50] <mauricio> MESCAL: Video card model?
[04:50] <kevogod> Has anyone compiled the Tango Icon Theme on Ubuntu?
[04:50] <hedgehog> Please help...
[04:50] <mauricio> LADDER: Sorry, what video card are you using?
[04:50] <shadowhunter_> hey i are a new man at this ubuntu and dont no much about it yet but how can i get newest updat
[04:51] <hedgehog> How do you set the Default partition to boot as normal?
[04:51] <Robi_> crimsun, i missed him, and can't msg since i'm not regged ;[
[04:51] <mauricio> LADDER: r u sill there?
[04:51] <sector10> dabaR: nope its not there it wont start from command line either,
[04:51] <Robi_> anyone else run RAID here ?
[04:51] <dabaR> hedgehog: that's not an informative enough question.
[04:51] <amonkey> what is the preferred sound driver in breezy? esd or alsa?
[04:51] <hedgehog> ok
[04:51] <hedgehog> uhh.
[04:51] <Robi_> bok dabaR
[04:51] <MESCAL> mauricio still there?
[04:52] <kevogod> I believe ESD
[04:52] <Mrl33t> how can i view how much space i have left on a drive?
[04:52] <Ron_o> codemech_: why don't you try Ubuntu, live CD?
[04:52] <MESCAL> on passward it gives me error
[04:52] <marcoaurelio> Is it somehow possible to set a http proxy to be used in the Ubuntu installation?
[04:52] <dabaR> amonkey: esd if you like more apps running sound at the same time, or your sound card can play multiple sounds in hardware, with alsa, but that is rare.
[04:52] <Ron_o> you can run your system off of a CD, without screwing with your normal OS.
[04:52] <MESCAL> authentication failure
[04:52] <hedgehog> How would I set the computer to boot into the windows partition when i restart it without anything in the drive, aka, auto-boot to partition 1?
[04:52] <Robi_> Mrl33t , df -k
[04:52] <dabaR> amonkey: as well, it is only in gnome, kde uses artsd
[04:52] <mauricio> MESCAL: Yes I'm here
[04:52] <broken_ladder> lame
[04:52] <dabaR> hedgehog: and now it boots into ubuntu?
[04:52] <Amaranth> broken_ladder: Thank you.
[04:52] <Milk_> grr... I almost wish I hadn't upgraded!
[04:52] <mauricio> MESCAL: what live CD are u using
[04:52] <marcoaurelio> kevogod: haven't they changed to alsa, while keeping esd using alsa to play the sound? that was a feature I really hoped for breezy
[04:52] <martalli> gedhehog - you need to edit the settings for your bootloader.
[04:53] <MESCAL> dsl
[04:53] <Mrl33t> is there a command to view the hdd space left?
[04:53] <hedgehog> now it boots into the partition i created for ubuntu
[04:53] <dabaR> broken_ladder: I appreaciate that as well.
[04:53] <Robi_> Mrl33t, df -k
[04:53] <codemech_> Ron_o: good idea got that disk i might do that (got all my flatmates suuf coz hes goin away)
[04:53] <hedgehog> but ubuntu didn't fully install correctly
[04:53] <broken_ladder> dabaR i think it's ridiculous.
[04:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:53] <martalli> ubuntu = grub, right?
[04:53] <mauricio> MESCAL: dsl? i don't know it
[04:53] <Mrl33t> uh oh
[04:53] <Robi_> who runs a raid array?
[04:53] <hedgehog> Please... I need to boot into windows
[04:53] <Mrl33t> is /dev/sda1 mounted on / my linux drive?
[04:54] <Robi_> Mrl33t, probably
[04:54] <khafra> I kinda want 2.6.13, I think it might make VMware work.  How likely am I to mess ubuntu up if that's my first kernel compile, considering there's no ubuntu version?
[04:54] <Mrl33t> uh oh
[04:54] <MESCAL> anyway is based on knoppix tecnology
[04:54] <Mrl33t> 100% use
[04:54] <MESCAL> it says
[04:54] <mauricio> MESCAL: anyway almost all live CDs have a README
[04:54] <sector10> i cant seem to adjust synaptics touchpad in xorg.conf
[04:54] <dabaR> hedgehog: there is a file, absolute path: /boot/grub/menu.lst. editing it would change that. you should read it, it is self explanatory(look for the default line) and ask questions here, accompanied with a post on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl of that file if you have further questions.
[04:54] <Robi_> Mrl33t, not, good clean it up
[04:54] <MESCAL> ok
[04:54] <mauricio> MESCAL: Or FAQ
[04:54] <Mrl33t> well.. its only 3.7gb :P
[04:54] <Mrl33t> drive
[04:54] <dabaR> hedgehog: provided you can boot ubuntu...
[04:54] <broken_ladder> mauricio my graphics card is intel extreme graphics..
[04:54] <MESCAL> i take a look there
[04:54] <marcoaurelio> dabaR: you can always (well, almost) run alsa with mixer plugin, just have to set the asoundrc (I prefer that to use esd).
[04:55] <hedgehog> thank you dabaR
[04:55] <geno_> What is the website where there is a list of all linux games?
[04:55] <dabaR> bok Robi_ .
[04:55] <hedgehog> i'm on the liveCD at the moment
[04:55] <Mrl33t> i'm waiting for another drive to come in, so i can run RAID 0, then I have an excuse to clear my windows drive and create a bigger linux partition
[04:55] <sector10> is it so simple that i have to recompile kernel?
[04:55] <dabaR> marcoaurelio: ok, news.
[04:55] <brenner> martalli: grub loads ubuntu....they're not equivalent
[04:55] <Robi_> dabaR, uff kak si lagiran :P
[04:55] <mauricio> MESCAL: try to find there something about the root password
[04:55] <dabaR> I help people:)
[04:55] <MESCAL> ok..
[04:55] <dabaR> hedgehog: have you mounted your ubuntu partition?
[04:55] <khafra> What do I need to do with a vanilla 2.6.13 kernel to make it Ubuntu-y?
[04:55] <codemech_> hedgehog: is the live cd easy to use i'm about to run it?
[04:55] <broken_ladder> mauricio at first, in breezy, i could see anything at all.  my monitor went straight to sleep.  now gdm/kdm starts up, but then it goes blank once i log out, or if i make a new x session.  and it's non-recoverable.
[04:55] <Robi_> dabaR, np
[04:56] <hedgehog> it's pretty good
[04:56] <dabaR> codemech_: yes, it is, ask marcoaurelio :)
[04:56] <Robi_> dabar, have any contacts back in ZG ?
[04:56] <hedgehog> but it's slow on internet =\
[04:56] <broken_ladder> does anyone else use your spdif connection for sound?
[04:56] <Amaranth> khafra: Merge a bunch of patches manually, update Ubuntu userspace apps to work with new kernel.
[04:56] <mauricio> ladder: i had once troubles with intel graphic in hoary
[04:56] <Mrl33t> hmm.... i installed steam with wine... i wonder where it installed to
[04:56] <dabaR> Robi_: my family, mom, sisters, sisters' children...and so on. I left at 18, so I knew quite a few people.
[04:56] <Robi_> dabaR, i need to find someone who's selling a decent car for my mom
[04:56] <dabaR> Robi_: how old are you and where abouts are you living?
[04:56] <protokol> ok heres a good question
[04:56] <khafra> Amaranth: Any guide, anywhere?  "merge a bunch of patches" is slightly vague
[04:57] <EnsignRedshirt> I am have cable internet, and I'm using a Linksys router at home.  I can access the internet with no problems.  What I would like to do it to be able to ssh into my home computer from my office.  I'm not it that will be possible, and I'm not sure where to begin.  Any suggestions?
[04:57] <mauricio> ladder: it solved  with breeze
[04:57] <codemech_> dabaR: will ubuntu automatically detect my winXP partition and setup a dual boot installation for me? im a lil scared that its going to overwrite everthing
[04:57] <Mrl33t> hmm... where woudl it have installed to?
[04:57] <mauricio> ladder: are you using breeze?
[04:57] <EnsignRedshirt> s/not it/not sure it/
[04:57] <dabaR> hedgehog: whenever you are ready to answer my question.
[04:57] <sector10> supposidly the touchpad is now part of kernel with no chance to configure.
[04:57] <Robi_> dabaR, past a quarter century, now in CA , us
[04:57] <Amaranth> khafra: Lets just say it's highly non-trivial and you probably need kernel programming expierence.
[04:57] <sector10> that makes it simple but dead!
[04:57] <dabaR> Robi_: cool.
[04:57] <Amaranth> khafra: Since everything in Ubuntu is so tightly integrated.
[04:57] <broken_ladder> mauricio i was fine in hoary.  breezy is the problem.
[04:57] <dabaR> Robi_: Im in winnipeg, manitoba, canada.
[04:57] <dabaR> all lower case:)
[04:57] <protokol> i had a distro once, and when you locked the screen, it had an option to switch users. how do i get that in ubuntu?
[04:57] <broken_ladder> mauricio could you type bro then hit tab or something, so i can see the line highlight.
[04:57] <Robi_> dabaR, ya so i c
[04:57] <khafra> Amaranth: Darn.  Guess I'll try to get cedega to work, then, since VMware won't.
[04:57] <Robi_> brrr
[04:58] <mauricio> MESCAL: are you sill there?
[04:58] <Amaranth> khafra: Ah, that annoying bug.
[04:58] <Mrl33t> anybody have an idea?
[04:58] <Mrl33t> where steam would have installed to when using wine?
[04:58] <mauricio> ladder: sorry i'm new in IRC
[04:58] <dabaR> Mrl33t: ask dpkg on #debian about having an idea.
[04:58] <Amaranth> khafra: Any game you want to run probably won't work well in vmware anything, it doesn't even have 3d hardware acceleration.
[04:58] <Madpilot> protokol: Breezy does that now
[04:59] <Amaranth> khafra: So all the graphics for the game will be rendered in software by an emulated computer, slowly.
[04:59] <mauricio> ladder: anyway what resolution are you using by default?
[04:59] <broken_ladder> mauricio you know about name completion in irc?  you just type the first few letters of the name and hit tab.
[04:59] <Robi_> Mrl33t , find / -name steam
[04:59] <khafra> Amaranth: I kinda wanted to try out OS X x86 and Vista
[04:59] <Odyssey> hi guys.... i recently got my copy of ubuntu 5.04
[04:59] <codemech_> hey will ubuntu automatically detect my winXP partition and setup a dual boot installation for me? im a lil scared that its going to overwrite everthing
[04:59] <Odyssey> and need help
[04:59] <broken_ladder> mauricio you mean in xorg.conf?
[04:59] <dabaR> Odyssey: ok, sounds about right, go ahead.
[04:59] <MESCAL> yes i 'm looking for informations about psswrd
[04:59] <Amaranth> khafra: Naughty. :)
[04:59] <protokol> Madpilot, damn breezy rocks
[04:59] <khafra> But hopefully cedega will run that one, single windows graphing program I need.
[05:00] <mauricio> broken_ladder, OH thanks is wonderful your tip
[05:00] <Odyssey> ok   i installed the typical version is this right or should i have selected the hoary version?
[05:00] <mauricio> broken_ladder, yes xorg.conf
[05:00] <khafra> I'm just hesitant to install cedega because it's a single tar that spreads itself everywhere--looks impossible to uninstall, if I ever needed to
[05:00] <marcoaurelio> codemech_: it won't resize the windows partition automatically, but it will setup dual boot just fine
[05:01] <dabaR> Odyssey: default, if that is what you mean. read the screens, it told you what the options were, and what they meant.
[05:01] <broken_ladder> mauricio 1280x1040
[05:01] <Odyssey> yes default... i did it a couple of weeks ago and cant remember what it intailed but i selected default... is hoary installed atuomatic?
[05:01] <mauricio> broken_ladder, try to make it a bit lower
[05:02] <dabaR> Odyssey: yes, well, automatic...are you in ubuntu now?
[05:02] <Amaranth> khafra: Did you try WINE?
[05:02] <mauricio> broken_ladder, try 1024x768
[05:02] <dabaR> Odyssey: hoary == ubuntu 5.04
[05:02] <Amaranth> khafra: It's even in universe.
[05:02] <Odyssey> nope cos i cant get my net connection to work on it
[05:02] <Davey> Hey Amaranth :)
[05:02] <Odyssey> ahh i see :)
[05:02] <Amaranth> hey davey
[05:02] <Davey> Amaranth, Breezy is *nice* :)
[05:02] <Davey> Amaranth, but not much has changed :/
[05:02] <Madpilot> protokol: it does; there's a few nice incremental improvements, and it's a bit faster on this machine that Hoary was
[05:02] <Amaranth> Davey: :D
[05:02] <codemech_> Marcourlio: sweet as, so i should loose my data but i will have to set up the partition?
[05:02] <Amaranth> Davey: Well, lots of little things have changed.
[05:02] <dabaR> Odyssey: so that is your question? network conenction? skip the intro:)
[05:02] <Odyssey> i finally got my connection to dail but it stays connected for a whole 5 secs and disconnects me
[05:02] <hedgehog> how do I set the default partition to boot?
[05:03] <Davey> Amaranth, hated those stupid buttons instead of location text box shit, turned that off really quickly ;)
[05:03] <Amaranth> Davey: And if you're using it on a laptop you'll notice a lot of the changes.
[05:03] <Odyssey> *laffs* sorry :)
[05:03] <Amaranth> hehe
[05:03] <dabaR> Odyssey: dial up, eh? only network connection I know nothing about...:(
[05:03] <protokol> Davey: HOW?!?!?
[05:03] <Odyssey> yep :)
[05:03] <broken_ladder> mauricio my resolution works fine at 1280x1040
[05:03] <dabaR> Davey: ya how!
[05:03] <Amaranth> Davey: Wanna test the new version of smeg for me? I need someone to try to break it so I can pick up the pieces.
[05:03] <Odyssey> *laffs* ok :) thanx anyway :)
[05:03] <dabaR> broken_ladder: here is the thing we were trying to do^^
[05:03] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: sweet as, so i should loose my data but i will have to set up the partition?
[05:03] <broken_ladder> mauricio gdm comes up when i first start.
[05:04] <Davey> Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor
[05:04] <broken_ladder> dabaR hmm?
[05:04] <Odyssey> anyone in australia with bigpond dial up?
[05:04] <dabaR> broken_ladder: bubbles in nautilus
[05:04] <bungle> with ifconfig how do I change the braodcast address
[05:04] <marcoaurelio> codemech_: You'll have to manually resize the partition, Ubuntu will give instructions on that. It's usually safe (but backups are always welcome).
[05:04] <bur[n] er> bungle: man ifconfig ;)
[05:04] <MESCAL> ok mauricio i think i have a serius problem with partitions becouse on chroot /mnt/hda2 it says : no such file or directory
[05:04] <dabaR> Davey: go on...
[05:04] <protokol> Davey: what value
[05:04] <WTF_China21> how do you get AvP2, to work on ubuntu
[05:05] <Davey> then go to /apps/nautilus/preferences
[05:05] <Davey> then check "always_use_location_entry"
[05:05] <Odyssey> :(
[05:05] <mauricio> broken_ladder, ok try to restart gdm
[05:05] <dabaR> hah never saw that one.
[05:05] <Amaranth> Davey: Or just use the breadcrumbs and hit ctrl-l when you really need the location entry
[05:05] <Mrl33t> i dont know what to delete....
[05:05] <gp_aaron> shit it's packed in here
[05:05] <WTF_China21> how do you get AvP2, to work on ubuntu
[05:05] <dabaR> broken_ladder: hear that? about the bubbles in nautilus....
[05:05] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: i have an ac97 moden and i don't think that it is supported, will it work?
[05:05] <bungle> tah
[05:05] <Mrl33t> i can't open up synaptic
[05:05] <mauricio> MESCAL, ok, don't worry
[05:05] <khafra> Amaranth: "in the universe=?" aptitude's never heard of it
[05:05] <sector10> ubuntu is flakey!
[05:06] <Odyssey> anyone on dial up? with ubuntu?
[05:06] <Davey> Amaranth, catch me tomorrow, I'm off to bed :)
[05:06] <bungle> one last hting where is the file to edit the netowrk stats manually
[05:06] <broken_ladder> dabaR in gnome?
[05:06] <bungle> the conf file
[05:06] <dabaR> broken_ladder: ya.
[05:06] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: or do i need to get an external?
[05:06] <broken_ladder> mauricio restart gdm?
[05:06] <Davey> Amaranth, but then I'll be happy to test... as little as I edit my menus ;)
[05:06] <mauricio> MESCAL, you have root acces now?
[05:06] <marcoaurelio> codemech_: that I really don't know. Have you tried the ubuntuguide.org?
[05:06] <Mrl33t> i get "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:
[05:06] <Mrl33t>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[05:06] <dabaR> Davey: thanks
[05:06] <gp_aaron> mitch you got aim?
[05:06] <Amaranth> khafra: you have to enable the universe repository
[05:06] <Davey> dabaR, np :)
[05:06] <WTF_China21> umm, yes why
[05:06] <broken_ladder> mauricio what are you talking about restarting gdm for?  you mean exit my x session and try to get back to gdm?
[05:06] <bmk789> hi every1
[05:06] <Amaranth> Davey: I need people who don't edit them much, in case you break something. The only fix is removing all your changes.
[05:06] <MESCAL> yes i've wrote sudo su and everithing was ok (i think)
[05:07] <Odyssey> can anyone help with my dial up connection on ubuntu? :)
[05:07] <mauricio> broken_ladder, sorry, the thing is that i'm too used to debian
[05:07] <Davey> Amaranth, ah, cool :)
[05:07] <codemech_> Marcoaurelio: no will go and have a look there thanks for all your help :)
[05:07] <dabaR> broken_ladder: do you want to know how to change it? im almost off...
[05:07] <mahangu> Odyssey, that's a nice nickname - im a greek and roman major myself - ok, is your modem configured?
[05:07] <mahangu> what IS your modem
[05:07] <mahangu> there are some modems that wont work on linux without windows drivers
[05:07] <mahangu> you need to find me your model number
[05:07] <mahangu> and name
[05:08] <WTF_China21> how do you get Alien vs Predator 2, to work on ubuntu
[05:08] <Odyssey> its an external d-link 56k
[05:08] <dooglus> is it possible to watch a bin/cue VCD in Linux without burning it to a CD first?
[05:08] <Odyssey> it connects for 5 secs then boots me out any ideas?
[05:08] <mahangu> mm wierd
[05:08] <dabaR> dooglus: its a .iso type thing? image? tried mounting it?
[05:08] <mahangu> ive never used dialup on linux
[05:08] <Odyssey> ummm DFM-560E
[05:08] <Amaranth> dooglus: mplayer and vlc can open the bin file directly
[05:08] <dooglus> dabaR: it's two files: .bin and .cue.  neither is a .iso
[05:08] <mahangu> does it show up in network interfaces?
[05:08] <dooglus> Amaranth: thanks
[05:09] <mauricio> broken_ladder, as you said just exit your x session
[05:09] <dabaR> dooglus: I mean, is it a disk image type of thing?
[05:09] <mahangu> Odyssey, if it shows up and actually works, then hardware detection seems fine
[05:09] <FR500> /msg nickserv ident 2430561
[05:09] <bungle> where is the conf file to edit the network interfaces
[05:09] <Odyssey> i think soo? i'm very new to linux
[05:09] <frank23> dooglus: there is a virtual driver type thing for linux for bin files but I forget the name
[05:09] <FR500> woooooooooops
[05:09] <dabaR> FR500: thanks
[05:09] <FR500> lol
[05:09] <FR500> hehehe
[05:09] <bungle> hamed out now FR500
[05:09] <broken_ladder> mauricio if i do that, my computer will be "frozen" until i reboot.
[05:09] <bungle> shamed*
[05:09] <dabaR> >:-{
[05:09] <WTF_China21> how do you get Alien vs Predator 2, to work on ubuntu
[05:09] <Odyssey> yeh actually it does and works... mmm maybe the provider?
[05:09] <FR500> bungle, gotta change name to fr501 now :p
[05:10] <rain`> WTF_China21: cedega or wine
[05:10] <informant> WTF_China21: have you tried wine/cedega?
[05:10] <MESCAL> mauricio ?
[05:10] <codemech_> Odyssey: i have a ac97 moden is it suppported by linux yet? or do i need an external modem?
[05:10] <ajmitch_> bungle: trying ubuntu now? :)
[05:10] <Odyssey> codemech i have no idea?
[05:10] <WTF_China21> rain, yes, but when it says insert cd2, i do, but no work fromt here
[05:10] <FR500> do you know if synaptics touchpads work out of the box with breezy?
[05:10] <Odyssey> sorry
[05:10] <FR500> i don't wanna patch my kernel so i may be going to upgrade
[05:11] <WTF_China21> rain`, yes, but when it says insert cd2, i do, but no work fromt here
[05:11] <Odyssey> so if the driver is wrong it wont connect at all?
[05:11] <informant> FR500: should, although you can always try the 5.10 livecd to be safe..
[05:11] <FR500> informant, thanks
[05:11] <rain`> WTF_China21: cant unmount the cd eh? I had the same problem, I had to copy the install cd's to my computer first :(
[05:12] <FR500> and wwhat about wacom tablets?
[05:12] <bungle> heya ajmitch_
[05:12] <rain`> WTF_China2: not with the same game, but other ones
[05:12] <WTF_China21> rain` i guess i can try that
[05:12] <graig> hey, i am having trouble installing quake 3 arena.
[05:12] <bungle> nah just proving that windows wont rung a 300mhz with a dodgey card
[05:12] <Spudchat> breezy seems better on the ole memory usage now
[05:12] <bungle> but linux is wikid and it will work
[05:12] <bungle> ajmitch_
[05:12] <ajmitch_> bungle: yeah :)
[05:12] <bungle> where is the network confi file
[05:12] <ajmitch_> bungle: /etc/network/interfaces
[05:12] <Odyssey> mmm might have to go back to crappy win95 i think.... :(
[05:13] <bungle> so I can edit it that and change everything manually
[05:13] <ajmitch_> bungle: if you're wanting to set ip address, etc
[05:13] <FR500> does anyone have a wacom tablet?
[05:13] <graig> i downloaded the linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[05:13] <graig>   file, marked it with run permissions, and it doesn't complete.  do i need any extra packages to get this installed?
[05:13] <graig> i have a wacom tablet.
[05:13] <bungle> I want to edit the broadcast address
[05:13] <FR500> graig, does it work fine with breezy?
[05:13] <bungle> the machine is already online
[05:13] <bungle> I just wanna move it to a different server
[05:14] <WTF_China21> rain`, if this works thanks
[05:14] <FR500> informant, the touchpad works as a normal mouse, but the mouse Wheel like functions don't really work
[05:14] <rain`> FR500: what kind of touchpad, synaptics, alps or something else?
[05:15] <codemech_> does anyone knoe this? i have a ac97 moden is it suppported by linux yet? or do i need an external modem?
[05:15] <FR500> rai0d, it's supposed to be synaptics, toshiba a20 laptop
[05:15] <mauricio> broken_ladder, hey i'm still here, just disconnected a minute
[05:15] <Odyssey> i donno bout linux anymore ... this is the second one i'v tried and nothing works :(
[05:15] <marcoaurelio> bungle: the broadcast address your nic uses? man ifconfig has some clues, "ifconfig eth -broadcast <address>" or something like that
[05:15] <FR500> Odyssey, tried damn small linux?
[05:15] <Odyssey> codemech.... maybe go to the website for the modem and check? thats what i tried
[05:16] <FR500> bungle, why do you need to change bcast address
[05:16] <Odyssey> where do i get a copy FR5?:)
[05:16] <mauricio> broken_ladder, did you solve your problem?
[05:16] <informant> Odyssey: what exactly does "nothing works" mean?
[05:16] <plumpkin> what are some programs that linux users use to sniff for wireless access points?
[05:16] <Odyssey> *laffs* i cant get online... therefore i cant do anything... and get help :|
[05:16] <codemech_> Odyssey: what dialer are you using?
[05:17] <Odyssey> dialer? as provider? bigpond
[05:18] <Odyssey> this way i'm trying to bounce between comps with only one mouse, keyboard and screen and i have no idea... its hard :(
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> plumpkin, airsnort
[05:18] <codemech_> Odyssey: no dialer as in software used to connect to ISP. could i recommed getting wvdial and dialing up with verbose switch, then pasting output to the list
[05:18] <Odyssey> how do i do all that? get it from one comp to the other? and use it?
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> wait that is a sniffer ... not access point sniffer ...
[05:18] <Odyssey> sorry i am really very slow with linux
[05:19] <broken_ladder> mauricio no i didn't solve my problem.  how would i do that?
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> Odyssey, rsync
[05:19] <dooglus> Odyssey: it's a conspiracy, don't you know? http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1134910,00.html
[05:19] <Am|NickTaken> bed time
[05:19] <Odyssey> *laffs hard* ok... what?
[05:19] <graig> nm, i got quake 3 installed, i had to type sudo before installing it.
[05:20] <codemech_> Odyssey: What dialer are you using? what program do you run to init a ppp connection
[05:20] <protokol> how do i change my defualt java?
[05:20] <DrZeus> hi all.  I was trying to compile kismet, and gave me this error: no acceptable C compilers in $PATH
[05:20] <mauricio> broken_ladder, you mean change the default resolution in xorg.conf?
[05:20] <DrZeus> hi all.  I was trying to compile kismet, and gave me this error: no acceptable C compilers in $PATH
[05:20] <graig> woa.
[05:20] <broken_ladder> ack.
[05:20] <broken_ladder> net split?
[05:20] <Odyssey> the one installed with default installation on 5.04
[05:20] <DrZeus> what could that be?
[05:20] <protokol> how do i change my defualt java?
[05:20] <broken_ladder> mauricio why would i change it?
[05:20] <Madpilot> net splat
[05:20] <broken_ladder> mauricio the resolution works fine.
[05:20] <protokol> in case it didnt go through
[05:20] <Madpilot> !tell protokol about java
[05:20] <protokol> !javadeb
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said javadeb was for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[05:20] <codemech_> graig: Quake III TA rules!
[05:21] <broken_ladder> mauricio i can boot up to gdm fine.  the resolution is fine.  it doesn't display when i log out of x.
[05:21] <broken_ladder> codemech_ really? in linux?
[05:21] <DrZeus> got an error trying to compile kismet: no acceptable C compilers in $PATH
[05:21] <DrZeus> what was that?
[05:22] <mauricio> broken_ladder, hey, I'm just guessing, maybe it works, maybe not
[05:22] <FR500> something happened....
[05:22] <codemech_> broken_ladder_: hell yeah!
[05:22] <Odyssey> sorry... i'm not sure... that wont help you to help me...and i'm very bad with it all... maybe i should go back to windows... :(
[05:22] <FR500> rain`, did you say something i missed it
[05:22] <nalioth> well well well
[05:22] <nalioth> what did i miss?
[05:22] <codemech_> brokenladder: that was my bf talking just then, Hes a Gentoo G33k :-/
[05:22] <mauricio> broken_ladder, i'm not a guru, i'm just trying to help you
[05:24] <DrZeus> still dont get why I get an error compiling kismet
[05:24] <DrZeus> "not acceptable C compilers in $PATH"
[05:24] <broken_ladder> http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/cos_guidelines.html
[05:24] <Odyssey> if i only connect for a few seconds maybe i should contact my provider? or could it be something wrong at my end you think?... will the program you told em about fit on a floppy?
[05:24] <broken_ladder> mauricio thanks dude.
[05:24] <ApesMa> Upgrading my wife's computer from Hoary to Breezy as per wiki instructions, but synaptic complains about 40-something .deb files from kdebase and kdepim that it can't fetch (along with two from libgphoto2 and one from gksu). How should I proceed from here? (/etc/apt/sources.list looks reasonable, though I edited out the CD line.)
[05:25] <budluva> ApesMa, are you using US mirrors?
[05:25] <broken_ladder> ApesMa all instances of hoary changed to breezy?
[05:25] <codemech> Odyssey: yes it will, or better yet a usb memory stick. if you can connect with windows but not linux then it is definatly your end. i would expect that you will get little to *no* help from your ISP if you mention that you are using linux
[05:25] <broken_ladder> ApesMa i remember getting similar problems, so i just dpkg -r the things that were holding it back.  i had to remove openoffice 2 i remember.
[05:25] <r0xoR> no!
[05:25] <ApesMa> budluva: no; I tripped over that one earlier today on my computer, and edited out the us. from the lines. broken_ladder, yes, all hoary changed to breezy.
[05:26] <m477> what is katapult, and what does it do?
[05:26] <FR500> rain`, did you say something i missed it, you asked about my touchpad
[05:26] <Odyssey> ok... i only have floppy disk access atm... where do i get a copy of that program... sorry whats was it again?
[05:26] <broken_ladder> ApesMa can you give us a pastebin page?
[05:26] <ApesMa> broken_ladder: once I google instructions on doing so, I expect I can.
[05:27] <FR500> Odyssey, damn small linux?
[05:27] <Odyssey> yes that and mode suggested a dialer also :)
[05:27] <FR500> oh
[05:27] <basscr> How do i  run an application everytime Blackbox is started?
[05:28] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:28] <FR500> do you think breezy with gnome would work with 64mb ram?
[05:28] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:29] <Odyssey> i'm using windows right now so how do i use the "split" command?
[05:29] <nalioth> FR500: i do not. use xfce4 or lighter
[05:29] <broken_ladder> ApesMa pastebin.net
[05:29] <broken_ladder> basscr you'd have to edit one of your startup files like .profile
[05:29] <m477> I'd be using DSL rather than Ubuntu, in my opinion
[05:29] <FR500> nalioth, it's a PIV i recovered form scratch 200gb hdd and 64mb ram and a geforce 2 i think
[05:30] <m477> I'd be buyin some ram FR500
[05:30] <mauricio> broken_ladder, you are welcome
[05:30] <nalioth> FR500: methinks you should add some ram to it
[05:30] <Odyssey> code: i'm using windows right now so how do i use the "split" command?
[05:30] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:30] <Odyssey> thanx code :")
[05:30] <codemech> Odyssey: goto packages.debian.org and search for wvdial, if its bigger than 1.44MB use "split" command (man split if your unsure) to put it onto more than one floppy. or better yet get a USB mem stick
[05:30] <FR500> nalioth, it uses rimms hard to find em now
[05:31] <nalioth> Odyssey: in windows, rar will split things into specific sizes and compress them
[05:31] <plumpkin> i have a strange problem goin on, i've used k3b before with no problems, but now all of a sudden it wont open for me, no error message or anything, the program just doesnt start, any suggestions?
[05:31] <graig> hello. i got quake 3 installed, and it won't save my profile unless i run it with sudo.
[05:31] <ApesMa> broken_ladder: looking at htt://pastebin.ca/new.php--pastebin.net looks like it's not there. What should I post?
[05:31] <broken_ladder> mauricio where are you from?
[05:31] <nalioth> FR500: obviously i'm missing out on what a PIV is
[05:31] <Odyssey> thanx :)
[05:31] <broken_ladder> pastebin.com i meant
[05:31] <marcoaurelio> plumpkin: run it from console, may be it will throw some usefull message
[05:31] <FR500> nalioth, P4 sorry
[05:31] <broken_ladder> choose no highlighting
[05:31] <Absenth> I don't suppose there are any good ways to add GCC 3.4.5?
[05:31] <Absenth> in breezy
[05:31] <Pickle_Weasel> what's the package to put "Terminal" into the right click menu?
[05:31] <Odyssey> then i simply install it and then what code?:)
[05:32] <Absenth> or, alternatly, any good ways to install vmware on breezy
[05:32] <m477> FR500: a processor is no better than the memory it has to allocate
[05:32] <Odyssey> Codemech: then i simply install it and then what? :)
[05:32] <Pickle_Weasel> no one knows the package name to put "Terminal" into the right click menu in breezy? =\
[05:32] <crimsun> Robi_: catch him in #trilug
[05:32] <FR500> geee, guess i need a lighter desktop environment...
[05:32] <plumpkin> marcoaurelio, it did, i got: kdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/home/justin/.ICEauthority'.
[05:32] <plumpkin>    it looks like the owner/group of this file is root for whatever reason, ill try changing that
[05:32] <jordan_> hello all, I am trying to get skype to work
[05:33] <FR500> so i guess enlightment is out of question
[05:33] <crimsun> Pickle_Weasel: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[05:33] <m477> it will run on 64mb, but it won't be very pleasant
[05:33] <jordan_> anyone else haveing this problem in Breezy badger?
[05:33] <Coz> Hello All
[05:33] <jordan_> hey coz
[05:33] <bimberi> Absenth: install gcc-3.4, and "export CD=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" before compiling vmware
[05:33] <Odyssey> Codemech: is it as simple to use as a windows based dialer? iputs and setup?
[05:33] <codemech> odyssey_: go to packages.debian.org and search for wvdail
[05:33] <crimsun> bimberi: CC
[05:33] <Coz> Yesterday I was asking if anyone knew how to initiate midi playback on Breezy final
[05:33] <Pickle_Weasel> crimsun, i know that, but i want it back in the right click menu like it was in hoary, there's a package to do this, i just don't remember the name
[05:33] <Odyssey> ok brb
[05:33] <Coz> ] Well I got it to play, sort of
[05:33] <marcoaurelio> plumpkin: try to change or just delete the file (it will be created automatically if needed later)
[05:34] <codemech> odyssey_: no butt its not that difficult
[05:34] <bimberi> Absenth: oops yes "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" (thanks crimsun)
[05:34] <codemech> odyssey_: ok
[05:34] <ajmitch_> Pickle_Weasel: like nautilus-open-terminal ?
[05:34] <Coz> I have to say, again, BeOs, dead since 1999, is more advanced right out of the box for multimedia than breezy is
[05:34] <strummsteel> guys, gud morning
[05:34] <Coz> plays dvds, midi you name it
[05:34] <basscr> How do i  run an application everytime Blackbox is started?
[05:34] <strummsteel> anyone here can help me with a mozilla problem?
[05:34] <FR500> i'm gonna do a clean breezy install on my laptop, do you know if software midi playback will work out of the box?
[05:34] <Coz>  Ilove breezy, but I think it may only be the GUI and not the OS
[05:34] <marcoaurelio> coz: that's not a valid comparison, BeOS rocks!
[05:34] <frank23> Coz: ubuntu is hampered by laws
[05:35] <plumpkin> marcoaurelio, thanks man, that worked :)
[05:35] <Coz> BeOS really Rocks
[05:35] <Pickle_Weasel> ajmitch_, yes, thank you >.>
[05:35] <Coz> What about BeOS? If they could get the licensign so cn Ubuntu
[05:35] <crimsun> Coz: there are some things we can't support out of the box due to patent issues
[05:35] <jordan_> can anyone help me get skype working?
[05:35] <FR500> what was the project to revive BeOS?
[05:35] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a command to restart an ssh server, or to tell the server to reread the config file?
[05:35] <jordan_> I need to speak with friends in the UK
[05:35] <Coz> comeon! get rights like everyone else
[05:35] <ApesMa> Ack. Later than I thought. I may try uninstalling KDE, upgrading, and then reinstalling KDE. Thanks for help and attention.
[05:35] <FR500> jordan_, just ask
[05:35] <Madpilot> Coz: BeOS must have paid licensing fees...
[05:35] <ApesMa> FR500: wasn't it Haiku?
[05:36] <strummsteel> how do i use mplayer's plugin in mozilla and not TOtem's Plugin
[05:36] <marcoaurelio> plumpkin: you're welcome
[05:36] <FR500> EnsignRedshirt, sudo invoke-rc.d sshd restart
[05:36] <crimsun> EnsignRedshirt: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[05:36] <Coz> Iknow it's expensivbe but hey guys, if you want to compete for the home or small business dekstop or even multimedia you have get these things
[05:36] <newubuntu> hello everyone
[05:36] <FR500> ApesMa, yes i think
[05:36] <crimsun> not sshd, ssh
[05:36] <FR500> ApesMa, it looked cool i think
[05:36] <Absenth> sudo: export: command not found     ?
[05:36] <Coz> there are NO options to this
[05:36] <EnsignRedshirt> FR500, crimsun: In stereo... cool.
[05:36] <ApesMa> FR500: will check it out. Good night, all.
[05:36] <Madpilot> Coz: so you'll donate money to the Ubuntu Foundation toward those licences, right?
[05:36] <marcoaurelio> IIRC, it was a bargain the MP3 licensing for BeOS, not that much expensive
[05:36] <strummsteel> guys? anyone?
[05:36] <bimberi> good thing you're about crimsun :P
[05:36] <FR500> Madpilot, what licences?
[05:36] <marcoaurelio> beos never much money to spend on such things
[05:36] <crimsun> Coz: there's a page devoted to it: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:36] <Coz> absolutely not neither did I donate to BeOS
[05:37] <Coz> yet they found a way
[05:37] <codemech> hey, wot the best music player to use wit linux?
[05:37] <Coz>  the problem is thrid party support
[05:37] <newubuntu> any Mac/ubuntu experts here?
[05:37] <Madpilot> FR500: mp3 and all that crap
[05:37] <bungle> how do I list all the usb devices n stuff
[05:37] <FR500> newubuntu, you're funny
[05:38] <Absenth> still erroring.....  how would I temporarily point /usr/bin/gcc at /usr/bin/gcc-3.4?
[05:38] <bimberi> bungle: lsusb
[05:38] <FR500> bungle, plug them as a ifrst measure if it doesn't work then it's all about what you try to install
[05:38] <Absenth> and after I was done how might I change it back?
[05:38] <graig> beos was not a free os.
[05:38] <nalioth> newubuntu: ask your question, there are several mac users
[05:38] <broken_ladder> Coz what about beos?
[05:38] <Coz> I understand the restricted formats but yet they can, or someone willing to, have apackage that can be downloaded.
[05:38] <broken_ladder> codemech rhythmbox is great as is xmms
[05:38] <crimsun> Absenth: you need build-essential and gcc-3.4 packages installed, then export CC=gcc-3.4
[05:38] <Coz>  For instance, there is apackage called automatix
[05:38] <FR500> codemech, if it works on breezy, bmpx, it rocks
[05:38] <newubuntu> thanks nalioth...
[05:38] <Coz> it downloads everything for midi dvd play etc except for some of the licensed libs
[05:38] <crimsun> yes, bmpx works on Breezy.
[05:39] <Coz> which are readily avaialble
[05:39] <codemech> broken_ladder: can you dl that from the net?
[05:39] <jordan_> Anyone know how to get Skype working in breezy????
[05:39] <broken_ladder> beos was the best os ever, by far.
[05:39] <crimsun> I've built an 0.12RC11 deb, but I'm ironing out the packaging.
[05:39] <Absenth> crimsun already did that.....  the .pl installer is looking at /usr/bin/gcc as the compiler
[05:39] <ajmitch_> Coz: I'd say you're really complaining to the wrong people here
[05:39] <newubuntu> I'm trying out the live cd and am currently running it without problem on a 12" powerbook (happily)...
[05:39] <broken_ladder> jordan_ why would you use skype?
[05:39] <tritium> broken_ladder, I like your lower-case nick ;)
[05:39] <codemech> FR500: can u dl it?
[05:39] <broken_ladder> jordan_ sip is non-proprietary.
[05:39] <newubuntu> ...but I can't get the live cd to work on my imac DV (orange)
[05:39] <crimsun> Absenth: that script is incredibly broken then
[05:39] <Madpilot> Coz: *someone* is still going to be either legally vulnerable or out of pocket a fair bit of money...
[05:39] <nalioth> broken_ladder: good job!
[05:39] <broken_ladder> tritium please don't talk about it.
[05:39] <claydoh> Beos!
[05:39] <FR500> codemech, sure you can
[05:39] <broken_ladder> nalioth please..dont talk about it.
[05:39] <starscalling> what do i need to install to be able to use gmake?
[05:39] <newubuntu> I seem to have a problem choosing the right monistor setting
[05:39] <newubuntu> monitor
[05:39] <nalioth> claydoh: take the beos to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[05:40] <Coz> Breezy cannot make it as a residential or smal business os unless they get these licensing because domeone like me, who builds and reapirs systems is going to make alot of money configuring breezy for home use alone
[05:40] <FR500> what is so good about BeOS?
[05:40] <broken_ladder> claydoh i miss it so much.  unfortunately its reincarnation still sucks.
[05:40] <NsOmNiAc> claydoh why miss it it's still around
[05:40] <crimsun> Coz: this really is off-topic...
[05:40] <broken_ladder> FR500 it was just amazingly fast and responsive, and easy to use.
[05:40] <tritium> broken_ladder, uh, okay...
[05:40] <newubuntu> the monitor goes dark towards the end of loading
[05:40] <Coz> BeOs does almost everything right out of the box
[05:40] <marcoaurelio> starscalling: make?
[05:40] <nalioth> FR500: beos talk in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:40] <graig> beos has spinning teapots.  :)
[05:40] <Odyssey> codemech:... i cant seem to find a download for it...:(
[05:40] <Coz> especially the corporate edition
[05:40] <basscr> what do i have to do to use the scrollball in my serial mouse ?
[05:40] <FR500> nalioth, sorry
[05:40] <broken_ladder> FR500 in beos, you had dynamic file attributes so you could tag any file and search for things much faster than spotlight on mac osx.  queries were live.
[05:40] <Madpilot> Coz: read the front page of the ubuntu homepage, where they mention "free and always free" - BeOS wasn't, I don't think...
[05:40] <hai> quick question, can i use k3b in gnome?
[05:40] <crimsun> hai: absolutely
[05:41] <hai> thanks! = ) that was quick.
[05:41] <broken_ladder> newubuntu you mean it goes to sleep?
[05:41] <claydoh> my hardware has, um outgrown it
[05:41] <Coz> well I have had my say frsutrated s I am I will ply with breezy for another couple weeks and then Back to BeOS
[05:41] <Coz> talk to all later
[05:41] <broken_ladder> newubuntu your monitor shuts off after the text is done with, before going to login?
[05:41] <claydoh> my hw has, well outgrown it
[05:41] <broken_ladder> claydoh yellowtab.com
[05:41] <newubuntu> no, borken_ladder, the screen goes black... I can tell from the sounds and the grinding of the cd that it's running
[05:41] <strummsteel> how do I start a root file browser?
[05:41] <starscalling> marcoaurelio: im trying to configure a source i have... the command is supposed to be gmake says the install.. but it says i cant use the command.. and make does not work for it.
[05:41] <codemech> odyssey: will pass you over to my bf again to answser your question
[05:41] <nalioth> newubuntu: what hardware?
[05:41] <Absenth> crimsun, do I have to sudo the export?
[05:41] <newubuntu> the monitor shuts off right before the final run of text
[05:42] <nalioth> Absenth: you do not
[05:42] <newubuntu> it's an orange imac, 2nd generation, I think
[05:42] <broken_ladder> newubuntu but your sure the monitor is actually "on" still, just displaying black?  the monitor doesn't go to standby?
[05:42] <starscalling> i can get a compiled copy of the .c output i think.. but i dont know if i can just run that :P
[05:42] <Odyssey> sorry sweet i found it thanx :)
[05:42] <broken_ladder> newubuntu that's excatly what i said!
[05:42] <Odyssey> downloading now
[05:42] <codemech> odyssey: url is packages.debian.org/stable/comm/wvdial
[05:42] <nalioth> newubuntu: does the livecd work?
[05:42] <claydoh> broken_ladder: I wait haiku progress :)
[05:42] <Absenth> nalioth, in that case I'm up the river without a paddle :(
[05:42] <newubuntu> the live cd works fine on my 12" powerbook aluminum
[05:42] <Odyssey> codemech:... ummm which one?
[05:42] <codemech> odyssey: ok sweet
[05:42] <broken_ladder> newubuntu i have the same problem sort of.  it was just like that, but now it boots.  but it goes black when i log out of x or try to start a new session.
[05:42] <strummsteel> how do i remove files from the mozilla-plugins if i cant run filebrowser as root
[05:42] <newubuntu> I'm running it on the powerbook now
[05:43] <Odyssey> i got the intel x85 version of ubuntu...
[05:43] <codemech> Odyssey: tell you what...
[05:43] <newubuntu> I think my problem has to do with which monitor resolution I'm choosing
[05:43] <nalioth> Absenth: i'm sorry? export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  requires no special privleges
[05:43] <FR500> are the ubuntu "aproved" or whatever they call them laptops good?
[05:43] <Odyssey> give up? *laffs*
[05:43] <broken_ladder> strummsteel use sudo?
[05:43] <ajmitch_> codemech: wvdial is in ubuntu, no need to recommend the debian version :)
[05:43] <codemech> Odyssey: your probably just going to run into a whole heap of dependancy problems when you d/l it anyway because its not in the main ubuntu tree
[05:43] <newubuntu> I got it to work once, but the screen image was off center and distorted
[05:43] <strummsteel> yes, but is there an easy way to run it with out going thru the terminal?\
[05:43] <nalioth> FR500: powerbooks and ibooks are great! :p
[05:44] <Odyssey> codemech:... ohh ok
[05:44] <ajmitch_> codemech: from what I can see it is in ubuntu..
[05:44] <jrattner1> How do I play party poker in  linux
[05:44] <batman> hey does anyone know of  a way that i can get flash plugins for firefox?
[05:44] <nalioth> newubuntu: do you have a console if you hit alt-ctrl-f3  ?
[05:44] <codemech> Odyssey: can you network your win98 machine with you linux machine to share the internet?
[05:44] <batman> nevermind
[05:44] <FR500> nalioth, but i kinda preffer x86
[05:44] <newubuntu> I haven't tried that, nalioth
[05:44] <FR500> thats just me i guess
[05:44] <Absenth> nalioth, I was refering to my problem of not being able to install vmware on breezy.  install build-essential and install gcc-3.4 with export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 doesn't solve the problem.....  guess I'll write to the vmware folks and see if they have any suggestions, thanks for the help anyway.
[05:44] <marcoaurelio> strummsteel: look at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, you will find the files there
[05:44] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: if you're grabbing wvdial, get it from ubuntu..
[05:44] <nalioth> Absenth: try qemu
[05:44] <Odyssey> codemech:... i wish... no this machine is VERY old no usb ports... the other machine is a little newer
[05:44] <crimsun> Absenth: why not just edit the perl script to honor $(CC)?
[05:44] <codemech> Odyssey: ppl say get the ubuntu version. im a gentoo user so they are probably right
[05:44] <FR500> codemech, of course, and if you use linux to connect to internet it's easier/better
[05:45] <Odyssey> ajmitch: is it defaulted into ubuntu already?
[05:45] <whaley> hello: it seems that gnome 2.12 is still hanging on me after a short, variable length of time after logging into ubuntu.  I monitored the the memory and processor utilization (albeit through ps aux) and all looked fine.  I was told to attempt the 686 kernel as well, which also did not work.  Any suggestions?
[05:45] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: it has been in there since warty
[05:45] <Odyssey> codemech: ... so this porlly means i'm already using it :\
[05:46] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: although probably not on the cd
[05:46] <Odyssey> thanx ajmitch :)
[05:46] <crimsun> whaley: is name resolution working properly?
[05:46] <graig> i can crash ubuntu.
[05:46] <whaley> as in hostname?
[05:46] <graig> if  i play neverwinter nights, and watch videos at the same time.
[05:46] <Absenth> crimsun, great idea, but it assumes I have the slightest idea how to code perl.   Nalioth, qemu?
[05:46] <jrattner1> has anyone ever played online poker in linux
[05:46] <Odyssey> ajmitch: so i still need to download it?... can i have a link?
[05:46] <crimsun> whaley: resolving anything
[05:46] <codemech> Odyssey: try typing apt-get install wvdial and see what happens ;)
[05:46] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:46] <Odyssey> codemech: where? *laffs*
[05:46] <nalioth> Absenth: a perl script is just a text file, it opens in any text editor
[05:46] <bimberi> Odyssey, ajmitch_: I just checked on my vanilla breezy install and wvdial is there
[05:46] <ajmitch_> oops
[05:46] <whaley> i was able to browse around in a browser, so i assume yes
[05:46] <nalioth> Absenth: qemu is in the repos watch ubotu
[05:47] <nalioth> !info qemu
[05:47] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: packages.ubuntu.com/wvdial, if you need to get it
[05:47] <ubotu> qemu: (fast processor emulator), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.7.0-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1783 kB, Installed size: 5332 kB
[05:47] <Pokesomi> hello
[05:47] <propagandhi> !mark
[05:47] <ubotu> A -- MARK -- message is printed in the log every 15 minutes, so you know the logger is running. This is perfectly normal. Your kernel has not been hacked by a danish guy called 'Mark'.
[05:47] <ajmitch_> bimberi: right, I haven't used anything serial for years :)
[05:47] <Pokesomi> i have a ?"
[05:47] <graig> if the system freezes is there a logfile that might tell me why it froze?
[05:47] <bimberi> ajmitch_: hehe
[05:47] <batman> whats a good spyware tool and antivirus tool i can download?
[05:47] <codemech> Odyssey: if you are using gnome press ctrl + F2 and then type gnome-terminal
[05:47] <Odyssey> thanx
[05:47] <nalioth> batman: in linux you have no worries for those things
[05:47] <Pokesomi> May i ask a question?
[05:47] <whaley> Odyssey: did you say you used gentoo?
[05:47] <codemech> Odyssey: then type "sudo apt-get install wvdial"
[05:47] <crimsun> graig: where/when does Linux freeze?
[05:48] <Odyssey> in linux.... so when i load on the other comp with linux use that command?
[05:48] <ajmitch_> codemech: which will fail badly
[05:48] <batman> nalioth: are you sure about that?
[05:48] <adi__> heloo gangg
[05:48] <crimsun> graig: and what type of freeze is it? I presume you mean a kernel one.
[05:48] <codemech> whaley: no sorry that was me that uses gentoo
[05:48] <kevogod> batman, Yes, but there is ClamAV
[05:48] <whaley> ahhh, i'm currently booted into my gentoo install presently
[05:48] <nalioth> batman: i've been using linux since 97 and never have seen a need for any of that stuff
[05:48] <codemech> ajmitch_: ok, what should he do then
[05:48] <whaley> having some stability problems with gnome 2.12 in ubuntu
[05:48] <Pokesomi> can i install ubuntu on a different partition but allow windows to still use the partition?
[05:48] <adi__> i need help about ubuntu plugins....
[05:48] <kevogod> batman, If you are worried about somehow transmitting a virus to Windows users, then use ClamAV or something.
[05:48] <ajmitch_> codemech: synaptic is preferable
[05:48] <adi__> pokesemi..yes u can
[05:48] <codemech> whaley: lucky you, im still waiting for my system to bootstrap, im just installing now. dialup sux
[05:48] <whaley> i seem to remember gnome 2.10 being tempermental here, so it might be my hardware
[05:49] <nalioth> batman: some folks run 'clamav' on their inbound connections so they dont send out any virusses they've unknowingly gotten
[05:49] <whaley> ouch... downloading sources by dialup
[05:49] <whaley> I'm sorry :(
[05:49] <adi__> i need help about ubuntu plugins....
[05:49] <nalioth> batman: there are no known viruses for linux
[05:49] <lui> Seveas, can you give me the address to that script to mount the windows partition, please :)
[05:49] <adi__> totem movie player
[05:49] <klubko> Is here anyone who was lucky with hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC880?
[05:49] <FR500> batman, you would most likely need ClamAv if you share lots of files and such
[05:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lui about ntfs
[05:49] <Odyssey> no... i'm on win98 atm... the other has linux ubuntu 5.04
[05:49] <batman> i see
[05:50] <codemech> ajmitch: sorry, just thought it was easier to explain if i rattled off commands to him rather than trying to navigate his was through synaptic or aptitude ;)
[05:50] <lui> hi nalioth, thanks :)
[05:50] <nalioth> howdy lui
[05:50] <FR500> nalioth, i have always wondered on why no viruses
[05:50] <batman> also i tried to install wine on here and for some odd reason it doesn't run properly
[05:50] <nalioth> FR500: because of several things, join #ubuntu-offtopic for more discussion
[05:50] <FR500> batman, and even if you get infected files it wont harm you
[05:50] <adi__> totem movie player ubuntu make me sick
[05:50] <FR500> ok
[05:50] <adi__> ask about plugins
[05:50] <Odyssey> ok i'm at packages.ubuntu.com/wvdial... which one do i download?
[05:50] <whaley> codemech: I'm tinkering with the idea of ditching gentoo atm, hence my testing of ubuntu as a distro... just gotta solve this gnome 2.12 issue
[05:50] <FR500> adi__, why?
[05:51] <codemech> whaley: LOL yeah one day i will get with the 21st century ;)
[05:51] <adi__> anybody