[00:06] <Munger> Hi. Anyone know where I should configure dhclient to use the -i switch to send it's DUID to the DHCP server?
[00:29] <deskwizard> Good evening :)
[00:30] <deskwizard> My goggle-fu is lacking tonight, perhaps someone here knows... is there any way to run a script when power saving turns on or off the screen ?
[00:30] <deskwizard> on 16.04 / 4.4
[00:31] <thrmo> where can i download 17.04 Ubuntu beta?
[00:32] <Mathisen> thrmo, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:33] <thrmo> ty
[00:34] <ponyrider> deskwizard: make you own hook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower#An_example_power.d_hook
[00:34] <deskwizard> ponyrider: will look into that. much appreciated
[00:40] <deskwizard> ponyrider: yeah, I kinda want it to do it itself, the whole point is not having to do it by hand, running shell commands manually isnt really what I was looking for
[00:41] <Ben64> yeah, it will once you do that
[00:44] <ponyrider> deskwizard: you said to want to run a script when power saving turns on/off.. so what? how should it be done?
[00:45] <deskwizard> ponyrider: that's pretty much what I was asking :P
[00:47] <ponyrider> deskwizard: use pm-utils and just place any script in /etc/pm/power.d
[00:48] <thrmo> how do i make on-screen keyboard toggle automatically on unity? i'm using a x86 tablet
[00:51] <radek> hello
[00:52] <deskwizard> ponyrider: thanks for the tips, I'll go bash my head against a wall for a couple hours
[00:52] <deskwizard> o/
[01:36] <NiteRaidah2> hi.  I've been having some ongoing troubles with a dropping connection on Ubuntu 16.04.  it's been going on in some way, shape or form since I started using Linux-based operating systems in late September.  can anyone lend a hand?
[01:36] <NiteRaidah2> http://pastebin.com/Q3BtNX3q list of specific issues
[01:39] <Munger> Wired? Wireless?
[01:40] <NiteRaidah2> wireless.
[01:40] <Munger> Can you pastern the output of 'lspci' and 'lshw -C network' ?
[01:41] <NiteRaidah2> alright
[01:43] <NiteRaidah2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24212712/ lspci
[01:43] <NiteRaidah2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24212715/ lshw -C network
[01:44] <Munger> "WARNING: you should run this program as super-user" try 'sudo lshw -C network'
[01:45] <NiteRaidah2> yeah, I was wondering what that was - didn't really want to touch that though
[01:46] <NiteRaidah2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24212736/ sudo lshw -C network
[01:50] <Munger> I suspect you may have the wrong driver for you wifi hardware installed. I don't know exactly what you should be using, but it's where i would start looking.
[01:51] <NiteRaidah2> that's what I've thought, but I wasn't certain and wasn't going to try screwing around blindly
[01:52] <NiteRaidah2> though you don't know which one to use, where would be a good place to look?  is there an area on any of the ubuntu sites or on intel?
[01:52] <Munger> When it gets bad, kit may be worth checking the output of 'sudo dmesg' to see if the kernel is logging any errors
[01:53] <Munger> Something like 'dmesg|grep wlp3s0'
[01:54] <Munger> 'lsmod' will tell you what drivers you are using
[01:56] <Munger> Googling for 'ubuntu RTL8188EE driver' may provide some help
[01:57] <NiteRaidah2> okay
[01:58] <Munger> I'm afraid I can't be of much more help, but hopefully you may recognise the symptoms from some of the results of that search
[01:59] <NiteRaidah2> I appreciate it
[01:59] <al2o3-cr> Munger: the drivers in the paste :P
[01:59] <NiteRaidah2> 90% of ubuntu has been working very well, but this has been a pain since day one
[02:00] <al2o3-cr> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8188ee driverversion=4....
[02:03] <NiteRaidah2> ugh
[02:03] <NiteRaidah2> think I've gotten myself kind of lost with this
[02:05] <Munger> al2o3-cr, It is, but I don't know if that is a good or bad driver. All I can do is suggest things to check. IO may be barking up the wrong tree, but it does sound to me like a driver issue.
[02:06] <al2o3-cr> Munger: sure
[02:07] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah2: have you tried with any other driver?
[02:09] <NiteRaidah2> al2o3-cr: I haven't.  like I mentioned above I theorized all this was due to some sort of driver issue but I had no idea what to do and didn't want to risk screwing things up - even if that wasn't something to worry about
[02:09] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah2: try with rtl8821ae
[02:10] <NiteRaidah2> alright
[02:11] <NiteRaidah2> probably a silly question but is it free to do?
[02:11] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah2: of course
[02:11] <NiteRaidah2> cool.
[02:11] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah2: firstly `sudo modprobe -r rtl8188ee`
[02:11] <Munger> We now know two things we didn't know ten minutes ago. It's a RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) and the driver is rtl8188ee 4.4.0-66-generic. Combine that with the output of uname -a and troubleshooters have something useful to go on :)
[02:12] <NiteRaidah2> Good stuff. :)
[02:13] <nrdb>  I have several email boxs, what I thought I could do was to setup a VM to download all the emails (via pop) and then setup a web email server so I could read them... do you think this is a good idea?
[02:13] <al2o3-cr> rtl8188ee has always been a bit crappy
[02:15] <NiteRaidah3> so uh
[02:15] <Munger> nrdb, Can't you simply switch the email accounts to IMAP instead? Mail servers are notoriously tricky, and unless you have a static IP they don;t work well anyway.
[02:16] <NiteRaidah3> was that supposed to knock out my connection?
[02:18] <tatertots> NiteRaidah3: if you were dependent on wifi then yet...they probably should have mentioned that to you so you wouldn't be shocked
[02:18] <tatertots> yes not yet
[02:18] <NiteRaidah3> I see
[02:19] <isolatedd> isolated
[02:19] <tatertots> NiteRaidah3: did you regain wifi or did you plug in a ethernet cable?
[02:20] <NiteRaidah3> still don't have wifi on that laptop, nor did I plug in an ethernet cable.  currently on backup laptop.
[02:20] <nrdb> Munger, as IMAP leaves the email on the email server, I usally use POP, and my internet IP of my server hasn't changed in months.
[02:20] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah3: my bad, i summized you were using ethernet :(
[02:20] <tatertots> NiteRaidah3: ah i see...chatting from a different computer
[02:20] <NiteRaidah3> yep
[02:20] <NiteRaidah3> no problem al2
[02:21] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah3: so the module is unloaded now?
[02:21] <NiteRaidah3> um
[02:21] <NiteRaidah3> what do you mean?
[02:22] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah3: is the wifi connection lost on the HP?
[02:22] <NiteRaidah3> yes, it's lost on that laptop
[02:22] <NiteRaidah3> airplane mode's going, no available connections
[02:23] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah3: `sudo modprobe rtl8821ae` on HP now
[02:23] <roo79x> is there a way to make custom desktop actions / Quicklist in kubuntu 16.10 like in plank dock and unity please?
[02:24] <NiteRaidah3> I don't think that did anything
[02:25] <al2o3-cr> it doesn't output anything. check your wifi now
[02:25] <NiteRaidah3> still nothing
[02:26] <al2o3-cr> um, maybe i'm thinking of the wrong driver
[02:26] <Munger> Doesn't he have to restart the networking service after switching the driver? I'm pretty tired right now and not thinking clearly
[02:27] <al2o3-cr> NiteRaidah3: restore you're original one back with `sudo modprobe rtl8188ee`
[02:27] <al2o3-cr> Munger: no
[02:28] <NiteRaidah3> okay, connection's live (still have the minor vpn thing but that's an issue for later)
[02:28] <NiteRaidah3> gonna switch back
[02:29] <al2o3-cr> ok
[02:29] <bcowan> is Lubuntu noticeably faster than xubuntu? looking for something  lean and mean for an old netbook with 16G of storage
[02:30] <al2o3-cr> *your (pretty sure i'm tired too)
[02:30] <NiteRaidah2> gah, finally
[02:30] <roo79x> Is there a way to make custom desktop actions / Quicklist in kubuntu 16.10 like in plank dock and unity please?
[02:30] <NiteRaidah2> freaking irc
[02:30] <NiteRaidah2> client
[02:32] <isolated> quit
[02:32] <NiteRaidah2> https://medium.com/@elmaxx/rtl8821ae-wifi-drivers-in-ubuntu-16-04-4c1286524afa I found this while googling rtl8821ae.  could this be a solution?
[02:34] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: are you chatting from the hp with the issue right now?
[02:34] <NiteRaidah2> Yes
[02:34] <NiteRaidah2> the wifi's good to go on that end
[02:34] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: in terminal>   sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[02:34] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: when it's done..say so
[02:35] <NiteRaidah2> okay, it's done
[02:36] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: in terminal>   inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[02:36] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: share the url/link here
[02:36] <NiteRaidah2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24212971/
[02:38] <isolated> ex-chat
[02:38] <drey> Hi
[02:41] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222492
[02:42] <NiteRaidah2> this should be good for 16.04 too?
[02:44] <isolated> so boring here
[02:44] <Munger> At this point I'd usually suggest booting from a current live CD and testing the wifi on that. If it works, compare the kernel version and loaded drivers with what you have and see if anything is glaringly obvious.
[02:45] <Munger> Off to bed. Good luck.
[02:45] <NiteRaidah2> thank you.
[02:53] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213043/ judging by the last few lines I think something went awry, don't think it's compatible
[02:56] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: in terminal>  apt list --installed|grep build
[02:56] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: do you see anything in red letters or red font?
[02:56] <NiteRaidah2> 'error'
[02:57] <NiteRaidah2> followed by ‘NUM_NL80211_BANDS’ undeclared here (not in a function)
[02:57] <NUllbytelifeevol> hello does anyone no a good piece of software to hide your ip when sending packets
[02:58] <cool_boy> trying to run a service, getting start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[02:58] <NiteRaidah2> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213070/
[03:02] <Huck_Fumble> hello
[03:02] <Huck_Fumble> is /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build a symlink on Ubuntu systems as it is on Debian?
[03:02] <NUllbytelifeevol> hello does anyone no a good piece of software to hide your ip when sending packets
[03:03] <tatertots> NiteRaidah2: looks like you don't have build-essentials installed
[03:04] <NiteRaidah2> hmm
[03:05] <NiteRaidah2> will try that in the morning or later tomorrow.  more tired than I though.
[03:05] <NiteRaidah2> thanks a ton for the help.  I've gotten a lot further than I have before and it's nice to make some legitimate headway with all this :)
[03:05] <NiteRaidah2> 'night
[03:05] <Huck_Fumble> if anyone is on an ubuntu box can you see if /lib/modules/<kernel version>/build is a symlink?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> Huck_Fumble: " lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      39 Mar  8 13:07 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-67-generic " ,
[03:09] <Huck_Fumble> Bashing-om, :( :( okay thx m8
[03:09] <Bashing-om> Huck_Fumble: Easy enough done :)
[03:12] <Killamanjaro> ok guys I have this old acer travelmate the sound driver is missing under manjaro
[03:12] <Killamanjaro> what is the chances of it working on ubuntu.
[03:12] <Killamanjaro> they have an xfce version of ubuntu correct.
[03:15] <Bashing-om> Killamanjaro: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[03:34] <nocturnally> package beep not beeping pc speaker  .. 12.04
[03:39] <nocturnally> anyone?
[03:39] <nocturnally> package beep not beeping pc speaker  .. 12.04
[03:40] <kamnev_vd> hello
[03:40] <nocturnally> hi
[03:40] <kamnev_vd> hello
[03:46] <stan_man_can> so
[03:47] <stan_man_can> fresh 16.04.2 install but i'm having issues where if i click on a program in the unity launcher it won't open it
[03:47] <stan_man_can> like an existing window
[03:47] <stan_man_can> alt tabing to the program won't display it either
[03:47] <stan_man_can> they aren't hanging or anything it just won't open it
[03:48] <trueth> hi all - I'm running 16.10 on a live (USB) drive - I'm getting miserable network speeds with miserable ping (1774 ms), 1.53 up, 0.14 up
[03:48] <trueth> any thoughts?
[03:49] <PugaBear> I just went through the ubuntu 16.10 installation, wiping my disk which had ubuntu 16.10 just upgrade from 16.04, but was having problems so I just reinstalled everything. I'm still having problems though- my mouse is flickering, every app is taking 2-20 seconds to respond to my input, and my now that ^ trueth mentions it, my connection is really c
[03:49] <PugaBear> rappy too
[03:50] <PugaBear> My displays are being wierd, when I adjust the position of my monitors in the system settings, it either makes a blue bar on the top of my screen or a black one on the bottom
[03:51] <PugaBear> Im connected to ethernet btw
[03:51] <PugaBear> So 2mb/s is completely unreasonable
[03:53] <stan_man_can> PugaBear, yeah I'm not supper impressed lately
[03:53] <stan_man_can> I had been running 16.10 for the last 6 or 7 months but had many issue
[03:53] <stan_man_can> Just did a fresh install of 16.04.2 hoping to alleviate some of th em and it's almost made things worse
[03:53] <PugaBear> damn, that sucks, i really need mesa 12
[03:54] <foxv71> Running kernel 4.10 works great :P
[04:02] <pokmo> hi
[04:02] <pokmo> is there a command for checking if the os running is indeed ubuntu?
[04:03] <pokmo> lsb_release -a
[04:03] <Huck_Fumble> uname -a
[04:04] <Huck_Fumble> yeah actually i guess uname is just the kernel
[04:04] <Huck_Fumble> cat /etc/issue works
[04:05] <tatertots> he answered his own question
[04:05] <tatertots> he just needed time to think about it i guess
[04:05] <Huck_Fumble> hm, lsb_release -a looks a lot nicer than cat /etc/issue
[04:05] <Huck_Fumble> tatertots, yes, brain fart
[04:06] <pokmo> question. should "/dev/net/tun" exist?
[04:07] <pokmo> i'm just trying to install openvpn using a script and it checks if /dev/net/tun exists
[04:07] <pokmo> but in my instance, there's no /dev/net/tun
[04:08] <Bashing-om> pokmo: " crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 10, 200 Mar 19 11:58 /dev/net/tun " pretty default install of xubuntu 16.04.
[04:08] <pokmo> mine doesn't even have /dev/net
[04:08] <pokmo> 14.04 here
[04:09] <tubal> Hello. I have a U16.10 to HDMI TV problem. Only the root window and panels display on the TV connected by HDMI -- no app windows. I don't know what to do a bout it. Any thoughts?
[04:15] <PugaBear> I upgraded to kernel 4.10 and nothing has changed
[04:15] <tubal> Damn. Tried something and  X crashed.
[04:17] <tubal> Weird. I now have two matching sets of four desktops.
[04:18] <tubal> Oh X.  The answer, for the record, is 'Mirror Displays' in System Settings > Screen Display.
[04:27] <sumit> guys which kernel is better stable 4.10.4 or 4.11?
[04:30] <garcara> Would this be the appropriate place to ask a question about my install on a laptop?
[04:30] <chris11> I have an aws instance. How do I add user ec2-user so that it uses the same key pair as the default user root?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> garcara: Sure, if it is 'buntu you are installing .
[04:32] <tatertots> PugaBear: what were you expecting to change?...were you expecting to see fireworks in the sky
[04:32] <garcara> hat.
[04:32] <tatertots> tubal: are you using the computer to chat right now?
[04:33] <tatertots> tubal: ok nevermind...looks like you took care of it already
[04:33] <garcara> When I do xinput list I get 2 Touchpads listed
[04:34] <chris11> nvm, it looks like I can specify a user in the aws datapipeline setup.
[04:35] <garcara> It's a new Dell XPS and new install of 16.04. Mouse clicks (hard, taps are off) do not always register as well.
[04:36] <tatertots> garcara: does the symptom(s) occur when booted to livecd/liveusb?...if you don't know....find out
[04:36] <garcara> tatertots: let me reboot and test that out.
[04:36] <tubal> tatertots, Well, I'm watching a movie now, but yes, all is well. tks
[04:43] <garcara> tatertots: It looks like I don't have the same issue in liveusb
[04:44] <garcara> but i probably had tap to click on..
[04:44] <uL4m0g> Please help me, my ubuntu is stuck in Emergency Mode!!!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213406/
[04:45] <tatertots> garcara: then you defeated the entire purpose of the test
[04:45] <tatertots> garcara: but at the same time
[04:45] <garcara> tatertots: i didn't realize until I got back sorry..
[04:46] <tatertots> garcara: simply turn tap to click ON
[04:46] <garcara> true
[04:46] <garcara> ok
[04:46] <tatertots> garcara: and leave tap to click on
[04:47] <garcara> tatertots: are you implying I should never turn it off?
[04:49] <tatertots> garcara: according to your own testimony you didn't have the issue when booted to livecd/liveusb...with a delay in admitting you had tap to click on...you actually admit that with tap to click turned on..(on livecd/liveusb) you didn't have the issue
[04:50] <tatertots> garcara: boot livecd/liveusb again....test with tap to click on and off...so you can acknowledge how it impacts how you use the mouse/touchpad...so you can make a connection
[04:51] <tatertots> garcara: so far the evidence in your testimony suggests you should probably leave it turned on and don't mess with it again
[04:51] <tatertots> garcara: unless you are prepared to accept the consequences of turning it off
[04:52] <khfeng_> Hi all
[04:54] <garcara> tatertots: ok thanks, I'll give it a try
[04:55] <uL4m0g> can anyone help me
[04:59]  * tatertots helps uL4m0g
[04:59] <tatertots> there..
[05:00] <uL4m0g> Please help me, my ubuntu is stuck in Emergency Mode!!!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213406/
[05:01] <tatertots> uL4m0g: what did you do to or with the system PRIOR to having this issue?
[05:02] <tatertots> uL4m0g: did this occur immediately after installation of the operating system?
[05:02] <tatertots> uL4m0g: or did this occur more recently?
[05:03] <tatertots> uL4m0g: reinstall
[05:05] <uL4m0g> i have full disk encryption, so i typed in password for sda5, the OS usually loads in 5-10 seconds, but it was stuck for 5 minutes so i cut off the power and turned it back on, now it shows the GRUB loader where it hasnt before, i press enter, type in the password for sda5 to unlock, then the emergency message shows up
[05:07] <uL4m0g> i follow the procedure in the emergency message, i typed in systemctl default but all it does is show me another similar emergency message
[05:08] <khfeng_> uL4m0g, maybe dm/lvm/fs is damaged?
[05:09] <khfeng_> uL4m0g, did you try to use liveCD to open your encrypted device?
[05:10] <uL4m0g> no, how do i do that
[05:11] <khfeng_> uL4m0g, "cryptsetup open /dev/sdaX sdaX_crypt", replace X with the correct number
[05:12] <uL4m0g> khfeng is that sda5?
[05:13] <khfeng_> that really depends on your setup
[05:13] <uL4m0g> that's what i type in the password for when i reboot comp, it says type password to unlock sda5
[05:13] <khfeng_> that's it
[05:16] <uL4m0g> khfeng, it says Device sda5_crypt already exists.
[05:17] <greydawg> sup
[05:18] <khfeng_> uL4m0g, hmm, output of `ls /dev/mapper`?
[05:19] <uL4m0g> control sda5_crypt ubuntu--vg-root ubuntu--vg-swap-1
[05:24] <uL4m0g> khfeng, control sda5_crypt ubuntu--vg-root ubuntu--vg-swap-1
[05:25] <khfeng_> uL4m0g, did you type the password to decrypt the device in livecd?
[05:26] <uL4m0g> im not in livecd, i only boot in ssd
[05:26] <uL4m0g> should i be in livecd?
[05:27] <smrem> uL4m0g: no difference
[05:28] <khfeng_> since you can use dm and lvm, I think problem may lies in the fs
[05:30] <uL4m0g> khfeng, smrem, so how do i log in? how do i get out of this emergency mode?  i just installed ubuntu 16.10 and been using for 2 days should i just reformat/reinstall?
[05:30] <smrem> login where?
[05:31] <smrem> on extend system?
[05:31] <smrem> sorry i don't read before
[05:31] <uL4m0g> smrem, You are in emergency mode. After logging in, type "journalctl -xb" to view system logs....http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213406/
[05:32] <smrem> uL4m0g: what kernel u have?
[05:33] <uL4m0g> smrem, i dont know im using ubuntu 16.10
[05:33] <tatertots> uL4m0g: 00:03:34 <uL4m0g>: reinstall
[05:36] <smrem> uL4m0g: i can see what kernel u habe before put in recovery mode
[05:36] <smrem> *have
[05:36] <blkadder> uname -a
[05:37] <smrem> blkadder: that don't work in he have only grub console
[05:37] <blkadder> Oh
[05:37] <smrem> :)
[05:37] <blkadder> That's what I get for jumping in halfway into a conversation. :-)
[05:37] <sumit> guys which version of linux kernel in best?
[05:38] <tatertots> sumit: as far as you should be concerned ...it doesn't matter
[05:38] <smrem> uL4m0g: i can try change mode boot on bios and disable fast boot
[05:38] <smrem> *u can:P
[05:39] <smrem> sumit: work kernel the best:)
[05:39] <smrem> for me the best and safe is 4.x
[05:39] <uL4m0g> tatertots, yeah i guess, could it be the ssd? should i use hdd for reinstall? it was fine for 2 days then when i typed password to unlock sda5 it was loading for a loooong time, i cut power off and restart and this happens
[05:40] <uL4m0g> smrem, my bios doesn't have fast boot
[05:40] <sumit> actually i have to upgrade kernel so which kernel version i should upgarde stable 4.10.4 or new released 4.11?
[05:41] <blkadder> Unless you need a shiny new feature, go w/stable.
[05:41] <Ben64> sumit: best version is the one in the ubuntu repository
[05:41] <Ben64> doing it manually isn't recommended nor supported in here
[05:42] <smrem> sumit: u have a highter then i:)
[05:43] <smrem> uL4m0g: u boot uefi?
[05:44] <uL4m0g> smrem, legacy. i was having installing ubuntu 16.10 in uefi asking me to input a passphrase to disable "secure boot" at startup
[05:44] <uL4m0g> i was having problem*
[05:46] <smrem> uL4m0g: when u boot, press esc
[05:46] <smrem> when u see your kernel
[05:46] <smrem> try add: nomodeset i915.modeset=0 nouveau.modeset=0
[05:47] <smrem> to put this u must press ctrl+e -> i think
[05:48] <smrem> uL4m0g: evidently u have problem on driver, try noninstall and run on livecd or try Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Support), ex. 16.04/14.04
[05:49] <smrem> uL4m0g: or try this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_mode_setting#Disabling_modesetting
[05:50] <tatertots> wow
[05:50] <Cyberdrake> It seems that my FN keys won't work on Xubuntu 16.04, but work fine in Ubuntu 16.04. What would cause this?
[05:51] <uL4m0g> smrem, where do i add nomodeset i915.modeset=0 nouveau.modeset=0      before or after setparams 'Ubuntu'
[05:51] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: are you using the same kernel in both cases? Or 4.4. in one and 4.8 in the other?
[05:51] <smrem> uL4m0g: in grub loader
[05:52] <uL4m0g> smrem i am in grub loader i pressed e and it brought me to screen where the _ tick is below s on setparams 'Ubuntu'
[05:53] <chx> hi. both iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT and iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT gives me "iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.". However, iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT succeeded.
[05:54] <Cyberdrake> 4.8 in both
[05:54] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, 4.8 in both
[05:54] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: you're talking about the Fn keys of a laptop, right?
[05:54] <smrem> chx: check you chain iptables -L --line-numbers
[05:55] <Cyberdrake> On my desktop keyboard, a Cooler Master Storm.
[05:55] <alkisg> Cyberdrake:  Are you talking about F1, F2 etc, or a blue Fn key right next to Ctrl?
[05:55] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, it's a desktop keyboard. USB cable. It's weird, it works fine in Ubuntu with Spotify. No, it's an FN key, not F#. It's the FN right next to CTRL.
[05:56] <chx> oh bother, i am on a VPS
[05:56] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: `xev` is a program that displays keystrokes etc. Run it in a terminal, press some Fn+key combinations, and see what it produces
[05:56] <chx> that's why :/
[05:56] <chx> sorry
[05:57] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, good idea
[05:57] <smrem> chx: hehe
[05:58] <smrem> uL4m0g: u must add this option after load initramfs
[05:58] <smrem> on the same line
[05:59] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, it picks up the key. Oddly, it seems like the FN + vol keys work system wide. There's a package or something, I'm betting, that is on Ubuntu but not Xubuntu.
[05:59] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, output of FN + Play/Pause
[05:59] <Cyberdrake> http://pastebin.com/aTuQZaWh
[06:00] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: in ubuntu, unity-system-settings picks up the volume key, and processes it. In xubuntu, you need to find the equivelant that would process the volume key
[06:00] <alkisg> *unity-settings-daemon, sorry
[06:00] <coms418> thats funny, I just downloaded an early version of 17 ubuntu and everything on this laptop worked out the box
[06:00] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, volume key works fine. It's FN + Play/Pause, FN + Skip, FN + Rewind that don't work.
[06:00] <coms418> first time I have ever had an OS work so good
[06:00] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: it's the same thing
[06:01] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, gotchya. Hmm. I have an idea.
[06:01] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: google for xubuntu pause key, to see which dialog is offered there
[06:01] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: first google hit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/857359/windows-play-pause-keys-on-xubuntu-spotify
[06:02] <alkisg> Cyberdrake: eh,  no, ignore that, use that one instead: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1165266
[06:02] <alkisg> This would use native xubuntu facilities
[06:02] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, I found this: spotify-client-gnome-support , going to install and see if it makes a difference
[06:04] <Cyberdrake> alkisg, I don't think Xubuntu likes to play nice with Spotify and FN keys, so we'll see
[06:07] <pokmo> t
[06:13] <uL4m0g> smrem, i cant find initramfs http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213782/
[06:15] <smrem> and u have lvm O_o?
[06:18] <smrem> uL4m0g: u boot with live bios? I ask becouse u have strange params:)
[06:18] <alkisg> Is virtualbox-guest-x11 supposed to give better graphics performance on a vbox guest? It's not installable when the newest hardware enablement stack is installed, xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04...
[06:19] <uL4m0g> smrem, live bios? what does that mean? im newb in linux
[06:21] <smrem> ok ok
[06:21] <smrem> try difference video driver
[06:21] <smrem> where u have load_video
[06:21] <smrem> change this to: insmod all_video
[06:22] <smrem> i dont work try put this after load_video
[06:22] <smrem> *if don't work
[06:23] <smrem> u can try to remove your x-mode, i dont know wht u are using gnome, unity, kde?
[06:23] <smrem> and then try boot
[06:24] <uL4m0g>  the default so i guess unity and gnome
[06:24] <smrem> if this not working try select on bios uefi with gpt and add on grub insmod part_gpt and set root=hd0,gpt2
[06:25] <uL4m0g> how do i save and get out of the edit grub screen
[06:25] <smrem> why u whant save this?
[06:25] <smrem> change and try boot:)
[06:25] <uL4m0g> ok i cahnge to insmod all_video how do i reboot now
[06:26] <uL4m0g> F10?
[06:27] <smrem> u have describe on bootom - now i dont remember ctrl + q?
[06:27] <dust> Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory  imported-Humanity/192 of theme Lubuntu has no size field
[06:27] <smrem> or F10:)
[06:27] <adityaduggal> anyone can help me with an app on ubuntu for remote control something similar to jumpcloud.com
[06:30] <uL4m0g> smrem, changing to uefi will not load the ssd at all, it says No Bootable Device with hdd and sight glass picture
[06:31] <uL4m0g> sarem, this machine is pretty jack up, its Aspire E5-575-33BM
[06:32] <tatertots> uL4m0g: just curious has anyone mentioned reinstalling over the last hour and a half that you've had this issue?
[06:32] <tatertots> uL4m0g: oh nevermind....
[06:32] <uL4m0g> you did
[06:32] <uL4m0g> :)
[06:33] <smrem> uL4m0g: uefu with gpt
[06:33] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: what's the problem?
[06:33] <smrem> uL4m0g: u check livecd boot correct and work or what u try?
[06:34] <uL4m0g> smrem i dont think uefi is a good idea, the machine will not detect ssd if i change to uefi, so i change the bios to legacy
[06:34] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: what's the problem?
[06:34] <uL4m0g> Eric^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213406/ this shows up after i input the password to unlock sda5
[06:35] <uL4m0g> Eric^^ it stuck in emergency mode, wont load to OS
[06:35] <smrem> uL4m0g: u write u are put passphrase then kernel must recognize your ssd
[06:35] <smrem> and your partition
[06:36] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: fresh install?
[06:36] <uL4m0g> smrem, this is too much problem i reinstall with hdd in 16.04
[06:36] <uL4m0g> yea
[06:36] <uL4m0g> thanks anyways
[06:37] <smrem> uL4m0g: but i dont think is problem ssd
[06:37] <smrem> but if u dont have time better option reinstall:)
[06:38] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: in grub add "nomodeset" to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz.... quiet splash
[06:38] <smrem> uL4m0g: try anothre kernel
[06:38] <EriC^^> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=207749
[06:41] <smrem> EriC^^: U know is modeset=0 and nomodeset is the same?
[06:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[06:42] <smrem> novaue.modeset=0 and i915.modeset=0 is the same nomodeset ?
[06:42] <EriC^^> i think so
[06:42] <smrem> then i write him to check this and don't work:)
[06:43] <smrem> i think he have problem on graphic driver i write him try insmod all_video but steel dont work
[06:44] <alkisg> smrem: that insmod is about grub, not about ubuntu
[06:44] <smrem> alkisg: how can u think that -_-'
[06:44] <alkisg> smrem: i.e. the drivers that grub has to display its graphic menu, _before_ it loads the kernel. Ubuntu isn't affected by that
[06:45] <uL4m0g> Eric^^ the nomode doesnt work, it just put me in lower resolution but still show same emergency message
[06:45] <smrem> alkisg: yes they did:)
[06:45] <uL4m0g> in ORANGE color
[06:45] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: which graphics card do you have?
[06:45] <uL4m0g> Eric^^ no graphics card, i have onboard intel graphics
[06:45] <alkisg> uL4m0g: what was the initial issue, the emergency console or that it doesn't load graphics?
[06:46] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: ok, try i915.modeset=0 nomodeset
[06:46] <alkisg> EriC^^: if it's falling to the emergency console, I don't think graphics drivers will help there...
[06:46] <EriC^^> alkisg: the error msg
[06:46] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213406/
[06:47] <alkisg> I'm not so sure if that's the initial problem or the result of the tries to fix it
[06:47] <EriC^^> i found on some sites that it was working, then the person started getting the error message
[06:47] <alkisg> uL4m0g: so, if you try to boot the computer without doing anything to grub, you're still going to the emergency console?
[06:47] <smrem> alkisg: when u use gnome and difference driver u can show menu grub but dont load e.x. correct driver after
[06:48] <uL4m0g> alkisg, it goes to Please enter password to unlock sda5,    i have set it to full disk encryption, after i unlock sda5 i should load the OS asking me to type in the password then it'll bring me to ubuntu desktop
[06:48] <alkisg> smrem: /boot/grub/i386-pc/video_cirrus.mod is the grub driver. /lib/modules/4.8.0-41-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/cirrus/cirrus.ko is the linux driver. One is for grub, the other for ubuntu.
[06:49] <alkisg> uL4m0g: can you paste *that* message somewhere, or a picture?
[06:49] <theUser2> WHY!!!?
[06:49] <smrem> uL4m0g: try press Ctrl + Alt + F1 after encryption maybe u see another error
[06:49] <theUser2> WHY!!!? when i tell the installer I DO NOT WANT TO DOWNLOAD ANYTHING during the install procedure... does it still DO JUST THAT!
[06:49] <theUser2> ?
[06:50] <EriC^^> theUser2: it's updating the repos cache probably
[06:50] <theUser2> No... its downloading everything it seems
[06:50] <uL4m0g> alkisg what message, the emergency after i unlock sda5? its http://paste.ubuntu.com/24213406/  nothing works though if i follow what it says it just turn purple then back to that black screen with the emergency message
[06:51] <alkisg> uL4m0g: I don't see a message for encryption there. There, it just asks you to press enter without a password.
[06:51] <alkisg> That's the usual prompt to enter the recovery mode
[06:52] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: try i915.modeset=0 nomodeset
[06:52] <theUser2> No! means NO!   I did not consent!
[06:52] <uL4m0g> Eric^^ same result as nomodeset
[06:52] <EriC^^> theUser2: the installer knows better!
[06:52] <tatertots> theUser2: it'll be okay..just let it run it's course
[06:52] <smrem> now we clear:)
[06:53] <theUser2> No its not ok when i told it not to do it
[06:53] <alkisg> uL4m0g: at that point, press enter, then type `cat /proc/cmdline`, and then type the output here. I don't think you cat enter the emergency mode without manually asking it via the grub option.
[06:54] <theUser2> Ubuntu is a rapist
[06:54] <Jordan_U> theUser2: Please don't make such comparisons.
[06:54] <alkisg> uL4m0g: nomodeset etc won't help you while you're using the recovery mode, which on purpose doesn't have graphics etc
[06:54] <alkisg> Just stop using the recovery mode and try to boot normally
[06:54] <uL4m0g> how
[06:55] <tatertots> theUser2: just relax..it'll be finished in a few minutes
[06:55] <Jordan_U> theUser2: How did you tell the installer not to grab anything from the internet? Is this a Desktop or server (debian installer) installation?
[06:55] <alkisg> uL4m0g: start with what I said
[06:55] <alkisg> (08:53:58 πμ) alkisg: uL4m0g: at that point, press enter, then type `cat /proc/cmdline`, and then type the output here. I don't think you cat enter the emergency mode without manually asking it via the grub option.
[06:55] <alkisg> uL4m0g: this will tell us what you select in grub to enter the emergency mode. What you did wrong there.
[06:56] <theUser2> It asked me if i wanted to install updates from the interweb... i told it NO! (by unchecking the checkbox)
[06:56] <alkisg> theUser2: if you think that ubiquity, the installer, has a bug, you can file a bug report in launchpad for it
[06:56] <uL4m0g> alkisg, BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.8.0-41-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash i915.modeset=0 nomodeset
[06:57] <alkisg> uL4m0g: and if you don't put nomodeset there, does it still put you to emergency mode?
[06:57] <theUser2> And it even picked a slow  server so.... this will take hours if i don't restart the installer and install without network connected
[06:57] <uL4m0g> alkisg, yes
[06:58] <alkisg> uL4m0g: there should be a message why you get dropped to the emergency mode. Do you see such a message?
[06:58] <alkisg> uL4m0g: emergency mode is *not* because of graphics issues
[06:58] <alkisg> graphics issues come much later than the emergency mode
[07:00] <smrem> uL4m0g: boot live cd, mount your ssd and download /media/yourssd/var/log/syslog
[07:00] <uL4m0g> [    0.243026] platform MSFT0101:00: failed to claim resource 1
[07:00] <uL4m0g> [    0.243099] acpi MSFT0101:00 platform device creation failed -16
[07:01] <smrem> uL4m0g: i see this
[07:01] <smrem> u have bad block address
[07:01] <uL4m0g> hey no worries ill just do a quick reinstall, much faster than finding out what's wrong
[07:01] <smrem> but steel u don't have all system log
[07:02] <uL4m0g> you think its because my ssd is over 3 yrs old its starting to wear out?
[07:02] <uL4m0g> its samsung 840 pro
[07:02] <alkisg> It sounds like file system issues, so it's possible, yes
[07:02] <bitfawkes> hello
[07:03] <smrem> 3 years - young ssd:D
[07:03] <bitfawkes> I have some problem to get gui application from server to localhost using ssh -
[07:03] <bitfawkes> x
[07:03] <bitfawkes> somebody is able to help me?
[07:03] <smrem> uL4m0g: change msdos partition to another with gpt and use ext4 no ext2
[07:04] <smrem> with ext2 u can have problem with >256 charset file name
[07:04] <uL4m0g> it still performs better than my new ADATA SU800, in terms of cooling,    the su800 is going at 38-42' C whereas the samsung 840 at 30-33'C
[07:05] <uL4m0g> i think i did that before installing the os, i change the partition from msdos to gpt then set it to ext4
[07:05] <smrem> bitfawkes: if u write on google ssh wiki u see (ang. secure shell) no secure gui
[07:06] <smrem> i see on grub u try boot on msdos partition
[07:06] <rahulk> Hi All
[07:07] <rahulk> Is this correct channel to ask about ubuntu mobile OS ?
[07:08] <PCatinean> hey guys, how do I make an rsync and include everything except long directories like /usr and such?
[07:09] <uL4m0g> smrem, after i set the ssd/hdd from msdos to gpt, how can i know i did it correctly, what do i tell the Terminal?
[07:09] <smrem> rsync --exclude
[07:10] <Amis> Hello! I'm on MATE 16 with Compiz. I'm trying to place two gnome-terminal windows on a monitor side-by-side automatically. I could set them to be Always visible on workspace. I can even set the x/y position correctly but I CANNOT set the widthxheight properly. Anyone have experience with this?
[07:10] <Amis> gnome-terminal has --geometry but it is inaccurate and buggy
[07:10] <smrem> --execute=/usr
[07:10] <Amis> Compiz cannot change gnome-termianl size because gnome-termianl overwrites it
[07:10] <Amis> terminal*
[07:12] <smrem> Amis: u whant put terminal on background?
[07:13] <smrem> *want
[07:13] <Amis> smrem, I want to place two terminal on my secondary monitor on a fixed position with fixed width and height, essentially covering my whole secondary monitor with two terminals.
[07:14] <smrem> install unity-tweak:P
[07:14] <Amis> I have a bunch on programs starting when the system start - each placed on a specific workspace on a specific position - creating a confortable working area for me but gnome-terminal does not obey the rules of compiz
[07:15] <Amis> smrem, I'm on Ubuntu MATE which uses GNOME
[07:16] <smrem> Amis: i use unity-tweak-tool in gnome on mate
[07:17] <Amis> smrem, you think it is capable of overwriting gnome-terminal's own resizing ability?
[07:17] <smrem> Amis: try mate-terminal
[07:18] <Amis> smrem, I used that before and switched back to gnome-terminal because of reasons
[07:18] <Amis> I would like to have a solution involving gnome-terminal on MATE
[07:18] <Amis> If that is even possible
[07:18] <smrem> u try user or root?
[07:19] <Amis> smrem, what do you mean?
[07:19] <smrem> when u try geometry terminal u use as user or su mode
[07:20] <Amis> I'm launching the terminal as user. I shouldn't have to start a terminal with root privileges just to have it's size set correctly
[07:20] <alkisg> Amis: what's the command line you're using?
[07:21] <smrem> Amis: ok i understand but i ask if u try?
[07:22] <Amis> alkisg, I tried simply running 'gnome-terminal --role="some-custom-role-so-compiz-can-identify-my-window"' with Compiz settings about specific placement and size rules. Placement rules work. Size rules seem to have no effect.
[07:22] <smrem> Amis: try mate-terminal --geometry=20x20+200+200
[07:24] <alkisg> Amis: it is possible that gnome-terminal would ignore size rules and only respect the --geometry it its command line
[07:24] <Amis> smrem, although --geometry would do the job it is not the best solution as it is measured in characters and I cannot make it strech the whole screen height because it refuses to go out of screen. Also with --geometry placing two windows side by side there will be an annoying gap between them again because it is measured in characters rather than pixels
[07:24] <Amis> alkisg, yes, gnome-terminal only obeys --geometry and that is the problem
[07:25] <alkisg> Amis: for example, mate-terminal can't be resized to pixel precision; it can only be resized on characters
[07:25] <alkisg> Amis: you would see half a character otherwise
[07:25] <sir141> elo
[07:25] <sir141> Hi all
[07:25] <sir141> Please call me :D
[07:25] <sir141> XD
[07:25] <sir141> LOLLLLLL
[07:26] <Amis> alkisg, that is why I tried compiz as that because everything else obeys compiz's size rules but because gnome-terminal sets its own size it just ignores compiz
[07:26] <sir141> LINUX IN SCHOOL XD
[07:26] <sir141> Bye
[07:26] <sir141> Hi all
[07:26] <smrem> Amis: but u have --display or --full-screen or run terminal & and use --active option
[07:26] <sir141> Lubie placki
[07:26] <alkisg> Amis: well, if it's a deliberate choice of the gnome-terminal programmers, there's little that compiz can do about it
[07:27] <alkisg> Amis: you would have to file a bug report upstream to convince them that your use case is something useful for a wider audience
[07:27] <Amis> alkisg, that's why I asked here hoping someone might have some hacky but promising idea about this.
[07:27] <alkisg> No, I think --geometry would be it... :)
[07:28] <Amis> One last lead: maybe... is it possible to run a script inside the terminal that would resize itself?
[07:28] <alkisg> Amis: well, you could script a conversion of pixels to --geometry...
[07:28] <Amis> alkisg, I doubt geometry takes non-integer characters
[07:28] <alkisg> Of course you won't be able to resize it to non-integer characters
[07:28] <alkisg> Since the application code will refuse that
[07:28] <Amis> Yea
[07:28] <alkisg> You can just resize it to the nearest character
[07:29] <alkisg> You can rebuild from source if you're that desperate :D
[07:29] <Amis> alkisg, that might be overkill for something this simple :)
[07:30] <Amis> Well thanks anyway smrem & alkisg. I'll try the path of resizing AFTER that window was created. See if that yield any results.
[07:30] <smrem> Amis: try run with load config mode
[07:30] <alkisg> Amis: can you resize it with your mouse?
[07:30] <Amis> alkisg, of course
[07:30] <Amis> smrem, what do you mean?
[07:30] <alkisg> To pixel precision?
[07:30] <Amis> alkisg, yea
[07:31] <smrem> with --load-config
[07:31] <alkisg> Amis: and then gnome-terminal displays only half of the last character?
[07:32] <smrem> generate geomtery window on config file (another profile) and run with this, maybe work this
[07:32] <alkisg> Because with mate-terminal and marco, I can't do that
[07:32] <Amis> alkisg, it breaks to a new line when the character would be split leaving a thin area where characters are never drawn
[07:33] <Amis> smrem, but then I would only be able to specify widht and height in chacters which is not really enough
[07:34] <smrem> heh then u have only have source compile:)
[07:35] <smrem> i'm sorry for the mistakes but i try not to sleep:P
[07:36] <smrem> Amis: i never have this problem becouse i dont halt system:)
[07:37] <Amis> smrem, if I could, I wouldn't either but there are times when something goes horribly wrong, the X crashes, run out of memory, etc... and it's inevitable
[07:39] <smrem> Amis: Yea, i know this feeling
[07:39] <smrem> little change on kernel or driver and ten stuff don't work
[08:19] <Suprtime> Hi, I am looking for any help regarding flaky dorms wifi. 90% of time my ubuntu 16.04 is stuck connecting to it. While my roommate with windows connects without any issues, just like my android phone. Wireless works on other networks without any issues. What can I do? It's very annoying because I need net for my studies
[08:20] <cfhowlett> Suprtime, dual boot windows. or swap your wifi card for a more reliable chipset
[08:21] <hateball> Suprtime: what chipset is this?
[08:21]  * cfhowlett bets on atheros or realtek
[08:21] <Suprtime> Atheros
[08:21] <smrem> Suprtime: show us lsmod
[08:22] <Suprtime> Ath9k
[08:23] <Suprtime> I can show all of it, but it will take some time to take a pic and upload it with phone
[08:23] <ponyrider> Suprtime: assign a unique ip address to your computer from the router
[08:24] <tatertots> it a commercial/business wireless network at a school...he has zero control over the wireless network
[08:24] <cbauer> any channel for "bash on ubuntu on windows"?
[08:24] <cfhowlett> consider searching for a replacement wifi card.  pretty cheap on amazon.  I suggest a broadcom card.
[08:24] <cbauer> having network issues in that linux subsystem
[08:24] <chris11> I second the wifi card. you might get it working with a different wifi card that is better supported.
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !uwin
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !ubuwin
[08:25] <tatertots> asking him to change router settings on a school/business/commercial wireless network is illogical...unless he is the school IT department...and if he was...he wouldn't be in here asking
[08:25] <Suprtime> I will just dual boot, it's a shame since I really got used to linux
[08:25] <cbauer> cfhowlett: didn't exist before I just joined
[08:26] <cfhowlett> cbauer, ?  you meant that channel? no worries
[08:26] <cbauer> well, I am I to expect help from an empty channel
[08:26] <cbauer> how*
[08:26] <cbauer> can I*
[08:27] <cfhowlett> can help you there, mate.  I can tell you the channel, but can't populate it.
[08:29] <cbauer> well, just wondering, if I need help for WSL and get referred to an empty channel, how is that supposed to help me in any way
[08:30] <cfhowlett> you asked the channel.  I gave you the channel.  perhaps time for you to google other solution?
[08:30] <ducasse> cbauer: it's not empty, i just checked and could join just fine
[08:33] <cbauer> sry, it's my stupid irc client adding that trailing . to the channel name
[08:33] <cbauer> (kvirc)
[08:35] <stephanlap> Hello. My Desktop doesn't boot up anymore. It stops at the "Kubuntu"-logo/writing. After booting into a root-shell via recovery mode i found out that my main hD has been booted in read-mode. I can remount it as read-write without problems, but I'm not sure if that helps anything. Is there a way to start the graphical login-screen from the root-shell?
[08:36] <alkisg> stephanlap: did you do anything specific that resulted in the desktop not booting? E.g. updates, new drivers?
[08:36] <markshutlewerk> i have a quetion for ubuntu gnome 16.10 - firefox scrollbars are not default they are bigger/wider but the issue is they are also moved a bit away from the edge (maximised) which makes them hard to grab and easy to click on the white scroll space instead of the scrollbar
[08:37] <stephanlap> alkisg: I can't say really as I usually don't reboot the desktop for weeks.  But it's highly likely that there were some system updates the last time I had it running.
[08:37] <alkisg> stephanlap: when you see grub, press "e" in the normal boot entry, and remove "quiet splash" in order to boot normaly while seeing all the boot messages. Check for specific errors there.
[08:37] <alkisg> !quiet
[08:38] <alkisg> !splash
[08:38] <alkisg> Nah, don't we have any factoids for instructions on how to remove quiet-splash?
[08:38] <stephanlap> alkisg: I'll try that, thanks.
[08:39] <markshutlewerk> hold Shift for grub menu press F6 and edit the boot param - remove quiet splash
[08:42] <stephanlap> alkisg: Okay... the system stopped with a kernel panic (I mean, it hangs during the boot-process).
[08:43] <alkisg> stephanlap: if you correctly removed "quiet splash" and you didn't break something else there, then that's your issue. What error message does it say? Do you have a mobile phone to take a photo?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> stephanlap, something weird is happening.  throwing a kernel panic AND booting up as read only?
[08:44] <alkisg> !precise
[08:44] <stephanlap> alkisg: there's not much to see on the screen. some messages about "automremove_wake_function", "evict", "do_unlinkat" and some others. and then the Kernel panic "not syncing: Attempted to kill init!". A Kernel offeset given
[08:45] <stephanlap> cfhowlett: It seems so.
[08:45] <alkisg> Precise is EOL on April. Does anyone know the specific date?
[08:45] <alkisg> stephanlap: try to boot into recovery and select the "file system check" menu there
[08:45] <stephanlap> Problem is, I can't do anything at the moment, with the kernel panic. I can't switch to a virtual console.
[08:46] <tatertots> you can make a precise system show the date if you are running a live precise system
[08:46] <alkisg> tatertots: how?
[08:47] <alkisg> tatertots: I'm asking for the specific date when precise will become EOL... Like, April 10th? 20th?
[08:47] <stephanlap> alkisg: I already tried that (didn't work). then I booted into the root-shell, remounted the HD as read-write and tried fschk, which returned immediately.
[08:47] <ducasse> alkisg: i think i heard the 8th mentioned here, i'm not sure if that's correct though.
[08:47] <stephanlap> Without any errors, as it seemed.
[08:47] <tatertots> alkisg: by typing "ubuntu-support-status" in termnal
[08:47] <k1l> alkisg: 27th april
[08:47] <stephanlap> alkisg: But I could try again, just to see what happens.
[08:48] <cfhowlett> stephanlap, strongly suggest you backup your data ASAP
[08:48] <tatertots> alkisg: its in a packaged called "update-manager-core"
[08:48] <alkisg> tatertots: not much info there, Your Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is supported until April 2017.
[08:48] <tatertots> alkisg: should show the precise date.....no pun intended lol
[08:48] <alkisg> k1l, ducasse, thank you very much
[08:48] <alkisg> Haha
[08:48] <stephanlap> cfhowlett: I fear that may be needed, though I'm really not in the mood to set up the whole system anew. :-/
[08:49] <cfhowlett> data backup doesn't require setting up a new system ...
[08:49] <tatertots> alkisg: oh well...you think they'd have made something official like that give an exact date...
[08:49] <markshutlewerk> cant ubuntu just be upgraded
[08:49] <stephanlap> cfhowlett: I know. what I meant is that there may be some bug I can't figure out and need to set up the whole system again.
[08:49] <alkisg> tatertots: true
[08:50] <cfhowlett> boot from a usb, navigate to your home and copy it to storage media.
[08:50] <alkisg> !text-mode
[08:50] <k1l> markshutlewerk: there are online upgrades, yes
[08:50] <stephanlap> alkisg, cfhowlett I'm currently trying out fschk again.
[08:50] <markshutlewerk> ok but do you have to back up on every release O_O
[08:50] <alkisg> stephanlap: you can also try to boot in text mode, without graphics: http://askubuntu.com/questions/870221/booting-into-text-mode-in-16-04/870226
[08:51] <stephanlap> alkisg: I'll take a look at that when fschk is finished.
[08:51] <k1l> markshutlewerk: data without backup is not important data.
[08:53] <markshutlewerk> this is insane
[08:55] <stephanlap> alkisg:, cfhowlett Do you know how long fschk should need on a 250 GB SSD? I'm just wondering. The last meassage I see at the moment is "ok - reached target sound card". At least it seemed to find my SSD and acivated swap, but that's it for now.
[08:55] <stephanlap> markshutlewerk: what is insane?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> stephanlap, sorry, IDK
[08:56] <stephanlap> I'll wait a few more minutes to see if anything new appears.
[08:58] <alkisg> stephanlap: you can also use the root console and run fsck manually *before* mounting the file system rw
[08:58] <thrmo> how do i make on-screen keyboard toggle automatically on unity? i'm using a x86 tablet
[08:59] <stephanlap> alkisg: yeah, that is what I tried before as well. fschk returned immediately though, which is kind of weird. But I guess I'll try it once more.
[09:00] <stephanlap> I've had problems with nVidia-drivers before, so I'm wondering if replacing it with an older one could help (if I have network-access at all, which I haven't tried yet).
[09:01] <MartyIX> Hi, I have a computer with Ubuntu 16.10 now and I would like to buy a new one that would support 3 monitor setup (i.e. I want to connect three physical displays to a desktop computer). I want this to program with ease: one monitor for IDE, second for a bunch of consoles and the third for a browser. How would you choose proper hardware for this? I mean I guess two graphics cards but which are best supported (drivers)..
[09:03] <stephanlap> alkisg: I guess I'll reboot. I didn't get any new messages from fschk for several minutes now. I'll try the text-mode for a change.
[09:03] <alkisg> ok
[09:03] <markshutlewerk> gnome could save you some money desu
[09:04] <ducasse> MartyIX: i've got that setup with an integrated intel gpu
[09:05] <markshutlewerk> even linus does his work with it
[09:05] <tatertots> MartyIX: if you're not comfortable doing your own homework/research if you call a hardware vendor they will gladly consult with you about the matter...hardware vendor=dell,hp,acer etc
[09:06] <MartyIX> ducasse, Do you have three video outputs from your graphic card?
[09:07] <ducasse> MartyIX: four, actually, but only three can be used at a time. i use dp, hdmi and dvi.
[09:07] <trudko> Hi, is it possible to automatically switch audio source when I unplug / plug headphones? I am using 16.10 and this is still not working -_-. I was researching this before and I thought that there is some bug with pulseaudio
[09:07] <thrmo> how do i make on-screen keyboard toggle automatically on unity? i'm using a x86 tablet
[09:08] <MartyIX> tatertots, Well, that's one way of putting it. The other is that I had a displaylink thingy that I connected to USB3 and it supported the third monitor. The thing was that going from Ubuntu 16.04 to Ubuntu 16.10 broke the driver somehow and CPU usage went to the sky. So call me lazy if you will but after this experience I'm somewhat sad that I have to deal with this things instead of doing something productive I'm paid for...
[09:08] <markshutlewerk> trudko explain more pls
[09:09] <MartyIX> ducasse, Could you post me what is your graphic card? (PM if you like)
[09:09] <stephanlap> alkisg: Silly problem, but do you know where the "=" is on an English keyboard-layout? (I'm usually using German).
[09:09] <alkisg> stephanlap: two keys right of 0
[09:10] <ducasse> MartyIX: as i said,  it's an integrated intel gpu. it's a hd4600 in an i7 4790k.
[09:10] <k1l> trudko: this should work. maybe the manufacturer dint follow the standards for the hardware. is this a known issue for your hardware?
[09:10] <stephanlap> alkisg: thanks.
[09:10] <alkisg> np
[09:10] <nyloc> Hi, I have a question I couldn't figure out via google so I hope you can help me I installed a custom repository using the instructions on this site: https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/220066768-UniFi-How-to-Install-Update-via-APT-on-Debian-or-Ubuntu
[09:10] <nyloc> And the "apt update" finishes without errors after that but if I try to install the unifi package from that repo I get a warning saying: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[09:10] <tatertots> MartyIX: that sucks...i hope you gained something worth losing your displaylink for in your upgrade to 16.10 at least...
[09:11] <trudko> markshutlewerk: simply when I unplug headphones I expect speakers to work automatically and when I plug in it I expect speakers to be turned off, this doesn't happen I have to go to settings and click on which ever audio source I wan to use
[09:11] <xxhsu> ?
[09:12] <trudko> k1l: dunno, it works without problem on windows
[09:12] <pantato> one time i accidentally installed or removed ubuntu desktop and replaced it with lubuntu or something, and i got the ubuntu desktop back, but the shutdown screen still says lubuntu. Is there any way of getting the ubuntu shut down screen back?
[09:12] <MartyIX> ducasse, thank you!
[09:12] <k1l> trudko: maybe they ship a windows driver that makes it work again
[09:13] <stephanlap> alkisg, cfhowlett I tried booting with text-mode from recovery-mode and now the boot process hangs at "ok - started login service". I'm not sure if that is due to the HD possibly being in read-mode all over again.
[09:13] <markshutlewerk> if alsa this is auto-mute in alsamixer , idk pulseaudio
[09:13] <cfhowlett> stephanlap, have you an extra ubuntu USB you can boot from?
[09:13] <ponyrider> pantato: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1540175
[09:13] <alkisg> stephanlap: try putting init=/bin/bash in the command line, removing quiet splash, and at the prompt you'll see, check if you can `touch /test`
[09:15] <trudko> k1l: maybe, I mean I got used to have always some problem with my linux distro so it's not that big of problem
[09:15] <stephanlap> cfhowlett: Not yet, no. I guess I could create one via the laptop I'm currently using here.
[09:15] <ducasse> MartyIX: as long as your motherboard has enought outputs, most of the core i3/i5/i7 cpus you can get today can do this on ubuntu.
[09:15] <cfhowlett> stephanlap, I think it might be time ...
[09:15] <stephanlap> cfhowlett: I feared that would be the case. As if I have nothing better to do... :-/
[09:16] <cfhowlett> pro-tip for ubuntu users: make a USB and keep it handy.  mine is on a string around my neck. handy to have when out and about and I'm struck by an uncontrollable urge to ubuntu a foreign computer.
[09:16] <stephanlap> cfhowlett, alkisg: Btw, I juse tried booting into text-mode (*not* via recovery-mode this time). And the boot-process hangs ag "Loading initial ramdisk".
[09:17] <MartyIX> ducasse, Yes, that sounds good. It's great it's kind of "standard" because it's harder to break it from one linux version to another.
[09:17] <alkisg> stephanlap: I've no idea what "booting with text-mode from recovery-mode" means: (11:13:13 πμ) stephanlap: alkisg, cfhowlett I tried booting with text-mode from recovery-mode and now the boot process hangs at "ok - started login service". I'm not sure if that is due to the HD possibly being in read-mode all over again.
[09:18] <alkisg> stephanlap: did you try the init=/bin/bash that I said above?
[09:18] <stephanlap> alkisg: No, I was about to ask where I should do that.
[09:18] <csulok> !ask
[09:18] <alkisg> stephanlap: in grub, press e, and replace quiet splash with init=/bin/bash
[09:19] <ducasse> MartyIX: i've had zero problems with mine, it just works.
[09:19] <alkisg> stephanlap: you should get a prompt; check if you can run `touch /test` there
[09:22] <stephanlap> alkisg: I just tried that and it still hangs at "loading initial ramdisk". I don't even get to a prompt this way.
[09:22] <alkisg> stephanlap: can you load the recovery mode at this point?
[09:23] <alkisg> stephanlap: if yes, try adding nomodeset, nothing else would explain why you'd get to recovery but not to bash
[09:23] <alkisg> !nomodeset
[09:23] <stephanlap> alkisg: Yeah, recovery mode works (it gives me the options-screen where I can use the various options like cpkg, resume, clean etc.)
[09:24] <alkisg> stephanlap: then you either do some mistake while replacing "quiet splash" with "init=/bin/bash", or it's an issue with nvidia, which is bypassed with nomodeset. Try replacing "quiet splash" with "nomodeset" now.
[09:25] <stephanlap> alkisg: I'll try "nomodeset"
[09:28] <stephanlap> alkisg: btw, my "linux ..." line (after using "e" on the boot-option ended with "ro quiet splash $vt_handoff" and I had changed it to "ro init=/bin/bash $vt_handoff". I'm no expert with that but I think that should be correct.
[09:29] <stephanlap> alkisg: but I'll try "nomodeset" now.
[09:29] <alkisg> stephanlap: as long as you keep that in a single line, sounds fine
[09:29] <terry_> hi?
[09:31] <thrmo> how do i make on-screen keyboard toggle automatically when i want to type on unity? i'm using a x86 tablet
[09:31] <stephanlap> alkisg: I treid inserting "nomodeset" and still the same result. The boot-process hangs at "Loading initial ramdisk ...".
[09:32] <lobo__> some body know what is the laravel chat names???
[09:32] <bazhang> lobo__, /msg alis list laravel  to check, #freenode for more help
[09:33] <alkisg> stephanlap: and if you go to the recovery option, and press "e", and remove the word "recovery", and press f10, does it still hang?
[09:33] <lobo__> thanx buddy
[09:37] <DavidFromBE> hi, what's the location of the file wherein the LANG env variable is set in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[09:37] <ponyrider> isnt it in bashrc?
[09:38] <ponyrider> ~/.bashrc
[09:38] <alkisg> DavidFromBE: it depends; in /var/lib/AccountsService/users/administrator, in /etc/default/locale etc
[09:38] <alkisg> *where administrator => your user name
[09:38] <alkisg> DavidFromBE: normally, you select the language from the control panel
[09:39] <DavidFromBE> no gui here
[09:39] <DavidFromBE> thanks alkisg
[09:39] <alkisg> np
[09:39] <ponyrider> DavidFromBE: yeah i dont know if its the best way, but you can export LANG=XXX in bashrc
[09:40] <DavidFromBE> ponyrider: yes i can do this indeed, but i wanted to know where it is set globally
[09:42] <stephanlap> alkisg: I tried removing "recovery" from the "linux ..."-line and it seems to hang now again (kind of). The last regular messages where "ok - started network manager" and 2ok - started login ervice" After that something aout "bug: soft -lockup" and cpu#0 stuck for 22s" appeared. I could upload a screenshot somewhere if theat would help
[09:43] <alkisg> stephanlap: your feedback is puzzling, I think the live usb idea would help a lot better now :)
[09:43] <alkisg> It might even be related to hardware
[09:44] <DavidFromBE> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales <-- what i ended up doing
[09:44] <stephanlap> alkisg: I'm sorry for it being confusing. I'm currently looking for a place to upload a screenshot.
[09:45] <ponyrider> imgur
[09:47] <stephanlap> ponyrider: Thanks, I keep forgettting that name.
[09:47] <stephanlap> alkisg: that's what I see at the moment: https://imgur.com/a/SlEMd
[09:49] <ponyrider> stephanlap: is that a hardware issue?
[09:49] <stephanlap> ponyrider: I have no clue.
[09:49] <ponyrider> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205211 this thread says 'buy a new cpu'
[09:50] <ponyrider> ** PSU
[09:50] <stephanlap> ponyrider: that would be quite bad. o.O
[09:51] <ponyrider> maybe yes
[09:53] <Caelum> Hi, anyone know if Ubuntu reasonably supports -m32 cross builds on 64 bit hosts? Can I install libfoo-dev:i386 packages alongside the regular libfoo-dev and not expect my system to be broken?
[09:54] <PCatinean> Is there any way I can listen to a online radio that requires flash without using flash or maybe even a browser?
[09:55] <stephanlap> ponyrider: though I don't know if that is really the problem. It seems that my main HD gets mounted read-only and that (probably) shouldn't be a problem of the PSU, I guess.
[09:55] <cfhowlett> PCatinean, install chromium and go for it
[09:56] <k1l> stephanlap: did you fsck and look at the smart stats?
[10:02] <alkisg> stephanlap: you might have bad cpu, bad ram, bad disk, corrupted installation etc. The live usb now would help in pinpointing the issue.
[10:04] <stephanlap> alkisg: howso?
[10:05] <alkisg> stephanlap: when you boot a corrupted installation, bad code runs, so you don't know what's causing various issues. When you boot from live usb, you're more certain to run clean code.
[10:06] <stephanlap> alkisg: Okay, I'll try to create a usb installation
[10:06] <alkisg> stephanlap: for example, if you cannot boot from a live cd anymore, while you could previously, you'll know it's a hardware thing
[10:09] <stephanlap> k1l: I did fsck but haven't looked at the smart-stats (don't know how to look for that specifically).
[10:09] <k1l> stephanlap: you are german?
[10:10] <stephanlap> k1l: yes.
[10:10] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Festplattenstatus/
[10:10] <k1l> stephanlap: maybe the dmesg already has some info what is going on?
[10:11] <ksbalaji> How to run whatsapp web video in ubuntu 16
[10:11] <ksbalaji> ++16.04 firefox?
[10:11] <stephanlap> k1l: Smartctl passed on the HD. So that doesn't seem to be the problem.
[10:13] <k1l> stephanlap: its not about if it passes or not. if even smartctl fails then you can trash that drive anyway. its about the stats it collects. like failing sectors etc
[10:15] <stephanlap> k1l: I just tried "smartctl -a" and there don't seem to be any errors.
[10:27] <stephanlap> alkisg: Btw, I haven't disappeared, I'm just currently downloading Ubuntu to get it onto an USB stick.
[10:28] <alkisg> np
[10:29] <stak> hi
[10:30] <stak> hello?
[10:30] <LastArms2> Hi, Could someone help me figure out the correct IP Table rule to enable traffic forwarding from DHCP to strongswan VPN Tunnel?
[10:32] <bfwerg34> Is there some quicker method for verifying kernel versions of old ubuntu boot cd's? I've found searching google doesn't work well apparently some of them have been repacked.
[10:32] <stephanlap> alkisg: I don't know if this is relevant, but I've just tried to purge my nvidia-driver (as one of these had caused problems in the past), and while it seems to remove the driver I got two messages saying "dependence Dependency faile for /dev/disk7by-... (some UID)" and and depend - Dependency failed for Swap".
[10:33] <bfwerg34> stephanlap: ubuntu does that
[10:33] <stephanlap> bfwerg34: So that's normal?
[10:33] <bfwerg34> it is setup to break when using specified graphics
[10:34] <Ben64> that is not true at all
[10:34] <bfwerg34> then it is true at ne
[10:34] <bfwerg34> Is there some quicker method for verifying kernel versions of old ubuntu boot cd's? I've found searching google doesn't work well apparently some of them have been repacked.
[10:34] <Ben64> bfwerg34: kernel versions don't change within a release
[10:37] <bfwerg34> say ubuntu 10.04.1 .2 .3 .4
[10:37] <bfwerg34> they have differen't kernels don't they
[10:38] <bfwerg34> which is which without booting them all
[10:39] <stephanlap> I'm beginning to fear that there is indeed some hardware-problem. I've tried to purge the nvidia-driver a few times now but it doesn't seem to work. I get a message about "MMI watchdog: bu: soft -lockup - cpu#0 stuck for 2s! userdel:604" instead.
[10:40] <stephanlap> plus the "dependency fail" message on swap.
[10:42] <alkisg> bfwerg34: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.precise/_germinate_output
[10:42] <bfwerg34> stephanlap: (repeat)
[10:42] <alkisg> Search for "linux" there
[10:42] <stephanlap> bfwerg34: What do you mean?
[10:45] <stephanlap> And now there's a Kernal Panic again, in recovery mode... :-/
[10:46] <alkisg> stephanlap: I don't think it makes sense to try other things *before* the live usb now
[10:46] <alkisg> stephanlap: except maybe for the memtest option of grub
[10:47] <alkisg> See if it can pass all the memory test
[10:48] <stephanlap> alkisg: I'll try that.
[10:48] <stak> hi
[10:49] <stak> how are you
[10:49] <stak> ?
[10:49] <stephanlap> Running MemTest now.
[10:49] <brgy645g4yfg4t> can the kernel on the iso be determned before bootng?
[10:50] <Ben64> not without looking it up online
[10:50] <alkisg> brgy645g4yfg4t: yes, you can just run `file vmlinuz` there and see the version
[10:51] <ponyrider> cool
[10:51] <brgy645g4yfg4t> well the list is not accurate aganst at least one iso
[10:51] <stephanlap> alkisg: Okay... MemTest is finding errors. quite a lot as it seems. Could that mean a failing ram-stick? (Sorry for the question, I haven't used memtest very often).
[10:51] <brgy645g4yfg4t> what version has 12.04
[10:51] <cfhowlett> stephanlap, yep, sounds like a ram fail
[10:52] <alkisg> stephanlap: or cpu, or temperature etc etc. Not an Ubuntu issue anymore, now try #hardware :)
[10:52] <brgy645g4yfg4t> 12.04   Precise Pangolin    3.2 or newer
[10:52] <Ben64> yep, 12.04 has 3.2
[10:52] <alkisg> Or 3.13 with lts-trusty
[10:52] <alkisg> It depends on if it's 12.04, 12.04.1, 12.04.2 etc
[10:52] <alkisg> It's 3.2, 3.5, 3.8, 3.11 or 3.13
[10:53] <brgy645g4yfg4t> 10.04   Lucid Lynx          2.6.32
[10:53] <brgy645g4yfg4t> again
[10:53] <brgy645g4yfg4t> .1 .2 .3 .4
[10:54] <stephanlap> alkisg: Thanks for now. After the memtest is done I migt try to remove the ramsticks one after another and see if that helps.
[10:54] <brgy645g4yfg4t> can the kernel on the iso be determned before booting?
[10:54] <alkisg> stephanlap: if you already seen problems, you don't need to wait for it to complete :)
[10:54] <stephanlap> alkisg: If you say so.
[10:54] <Ben64> brgy645g4yfg4t: again, not without looking it up online
[10:55] <alkisg> brgy645g4yfg4t: again, yes, by running the file command on the vmlinuz file
[10:55] <alkisg> :)
[10:55] <Ben64> :D
[10:55] <alkisg> Ben64: :P
[10:56] <alkisg> brgy645g4yfg4t: mount -o loop,ro ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso /mnt; file /mnt/casper/vmlinuz
[10:56] <alkisg> ==> /mnt/casper/vmlinuz: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 2.6.32-38-generic (buildd@zirconium) #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 1, RO-rootFS, root_dev 0x6801, swap_dev 0x3, Normal VGA
[11:01] <stephanlap>  *sigh* I've just joined "#hardware" and tried to send a message but right after posting I get a message "##hardware: cannot send to channel". Wth?
[11:01] <Ben64> you need to be registered
[11:01] <stephanlap> Ben64: I see, thanks.
[11:02] <stephanlap> Oh well, for now I'm just running MemTest with one of the RAM-sticks removed. so far no errors, so aftter a successful run, I'll try to reboot the system.
[11:06] <stephanlap> alkisg: Sorry for wasting your time. I guess I should've tried MemTest before. It's still running with one of the ram-sticks removed. So far, no errors.
[11:07] <alkisg> stephanlap: no worries, after you'd done with that, if your system manages to boot, try `debsums -s` to verify its integrity. Or just reinstall.
[11:09] <stephanlap> alkisg: Thanks, I'll try that if the system boots again (fingers crossed).
[11:09] <stephanlap> 75% of MemTest done...
[11:24] <nyloc> Ok, I try to rephrase my question a bit if I get the warning: "The following packages cannot be authenticated!" While using apt install how do I figure out why this packages can't be authenticated and if they need a key to be added via apt-key which one.
[11:25] <Ben64> nyloc: you're going to need to be more specific
[11:25] <nyloc> Ben64: Sure, what additional info do you need.
[11:26] <Ben64> like the rest of the message for starters
[11:27] <alkisg> nyloc: also make sure to have run `apt-get update` recently; otherwise you might get that message that have had newer versions since your last apt-get updaet
[11:29] <nyloc> Ben64: sure I will paste the whole message in a few moments (have to reprovision the VM). What I can say is that I added a custom repository and that apt update finishes without errors
[11:29] <nyloc> Ben64: https://dpaste.de/5UmF
[11:29] <nyloc> this is the full output of apt update and apt install unifi
[11:30] <Ben64> well 3rd party repos aren't supported, check with them
[11:30] <nyloc> Ben64: I don't ask to support a third party repo I ask for ubuntu specifics how to debug this message
[11:31] <Ben64> it's a problem with the repo, not with ubuntu
[11:31] <ponyrider> doesnt ubuntu make you enable 3rd party repos
[11:31] <Ben64> no
[11:32] <ponyrider> as in, they are disabled by default?
[11:32] <Ben64> well yeah, thats how they're 3rd party
[11:32] <cfhowlett> not disabled, not present.
[11:32] <nyloc> Ok, that might be, but ubuntu tries to verify the package and I would like to know why it fails
[11:32] <Ben64> because the repo is bad
[11:32] <nyloc> something like comparing some SHA of the package does not match description
[11:32] <cfhowlett> nyloc, it's a problem on the package side.  talk to the packager
[11:32] <alkisg> nyloc: you need to add the apt key of that repository
[11:32] <Ben64> it didn't complain about a missing key so that isn't it
[11:33] <nyloc> alkisg: I added the key for repo
[11:33] <Ben64> this is why we don't support 3rd party stuff
[11:34] <nyloc> But I could rephrase this to how to manually authenticate a package in a ubuntu repository
[11:34] <ponyrider> why not just install from source?
[11:35] <ponyrider> or git, or.. .deb..
[11:35] <nyloc> ponyrider: If I only wanted to install the package I could say yes to: Install these packages without verification? [y/N] N
[11:37] <nyloc> ponyrider: But that is not the point, I would like to understand the process of authenticating the package to I can see where it fails. I allready manually checked the Checksums provided in the package metadata which match the .deb file and I installed the repo GPG key so I would like to know what else apt/ubuntu does to authenticate the package
[11:38] <ponyrider> you just install the package. maybe manual verification is the correcct/only method
[11:39] <stephanlap> alkisg: just to give an update: It seems that there was indeed a problem with one of the ram sticks...
[11:40] <alkisg> stephanlap: :)
[11:41] <stephanlap> alkisg: Reminds me of that time somebody interviewed me for a job in computer-support. A hypothetical question about a malfunctiong printer. I asekd all kinds of questions, without the obvious one, if the printer is plugged into the computer...
[11:41] <alkisg> Hehe
[11:46] <thrmo> ubuntu 17.04 daily builds ship with unity 8 by default?
[11:47] <ThinkT510> thrmo: those in #ubuntu+1 would know
[11:48] <thescatman> the output: http://pastebin.com/Kd79HBak I'm stuck on following this guide, i'm at the ssh step http://diybigdata.net/2016/06/configuring-dhcp-and-nat-for-odroid-xu4-cluster/  . what do I need to do for it not to go wrong? :\
[11:48] <Kaili> Hello. I'm using ubuntu 16.04. My network is working perfectly but I can't access any website of the
[11:48] <Kaili> Hello. I'm using ubuntu 16.04. My network is working perfectly but I can't access any .coop website
[11:49] <Kaili> I tried to change DNS but it didn't work. And it works from other computers using same network and router
[11:49] <Kaili> What is special with .coop ?
[11:49] <thrmo> ty ThinkT510
[11:51] <Kaili> Why would ubuntu only have problem with .coop addresses ?
[11:51] <Ben64> Kaili: not enough information to determine answer
[11:51] <Kaili> What do you need to know ?
[11:51] <clissold345> thrmo, No.
[11:52] <Ben64> pretty much anything would help
[11:52] <ThinkT510> Kaili: the other computers are not using ubuntu? Are they using the same browser at least?
[11:52] <Ben64> what site you're trying to get to, is it being resolved, blah blah
[11:52] <thrmo> clissold345, no as in they do not?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Kaili, works fine for me.  could be blocked by your ISP or your router settings.  unlikely that ubuntu is blocking without your knowledge
[11:53] <Kaili> ThinkT510: other computers includes windows (phone), mac (mini). Both can access any .coop website
[11:53] <Kaili> ThinkT510: it's not a browser matter, I can't ping them
[11:53] <Kaili> They aren't getting resolved
[11:53] <Kaili> Well for example my bank : credit-cooperatif.coop
[11:53] <Zen> Kaili: example, or try accessing http://www.nic.coop
[11:54] <cfhowlett> both come right up on ffox
[11:54] <Kaili> ping www.nic.coop ping: www.nic.coop: Name or service unknown
[11:54] <Zen> Kaili: well, they aren't in google dns
[11:54] <Kaili> But I can access it from other computers (using same network, same router, same dns...)
[11:54] <Ben64> unlikely same dns
[11:54] <clissold345> thrmo, Unity 7 is default with 17.04.
[11:55] <Kaili> Ben64: they do, I even tried to switch DNS in ubuntu, no effect
[11:55] <Kaili> I'm 99,99% sure it's an ubuntu prob...
[11:55] <Ben64> Kaili: try "host nic.coop"
[11:55] <alkisg> Kaili: what's the output of this commands? host www.nic.coop; host www.nic.coop <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:55] <Kaili> Host nic.coop not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[11:56] <alkisg> In both cases?
[11:56] <Ben64> yeah which command did you run
[11:56] <Kaili> Both
[11:57] <Ben64> host nic.coop <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:57] <Kaili> This one giving me Using domain server: Name: <IP_ADDRESS> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>#53 Aliases:   nic.coop has address <IP_ADDRESS> nic.coop mail is handled by 0 nic-coop.mail.protection.outlook.com.
[11:57] <Ben64> then its a dns problem
[11:58] <Kaili> hmm, maybe the router overwrite dns setting manually selected in ubuntu then :(
[11:59] <Zen> Kaili: what is in /etc/resolve.conf?
[12:00] <svg-nobl> clear
[12:00] <svg-nobl> oh it works now
[12:00] <Kaili> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:00] <Kaili> Weird
[12:00] <Kaili> It should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:00] <alkisg> It's ubuntu's internal resolver, dnsmasq
[12:00] <Kaili> Well then, it's really ubuntu at fault :p
[12:00] <Zen> Which probably indicates a setup issue with that
[12:00] <alkisg> coop has 3 redirects, maybe dnsmasq doesn't like it
[12:01] <Kaili> So if I replace that with <IP_ADDRESS>, it should work right
[12:01] <Ben64> Kaili: it isn't ubuntu's fault
[12:01] <alkisg> It'll get overwritten when network-manager restarts
[12:01] <Ben64> just set a dns server
[12:01] <Ben64> use your network manager
[12:01] <alkisg> You need to tell network-manager not to use dnsmasq
[12:01] <Kaili> I did, in the network manager, I wrote <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:02] <Zen> no you didn't
[12:02] <alkisg> Network manager uses dnsmasq for caching
[12:02] <Zen> You told network manager what its upstream dns server should be
[12:02] <alkisg> So no matter what you do in the connection settings, you'll always get dnsmasq, 127.x
[12:02] <Ben64> Kaili: nmcli dev list | grep DNS
[12:03] <Kaili> Error: argument 'list' not understood. Try passing --help instead.
[12:03] <Ben64> Kaili: nmcli device show | grep DNS
[12:03] <Kaili> nmcli device show | grep DNS IP4.DNS[1]:                             <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:04] <Kaili> Answer is : IP4.DNS[1]:                             <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:04] <Kaili> So you see I did :p
[12:04] <Kaili> Maybe I should replace dnsmasq by unbound
[12:04] <alkisg> Kaili: check /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[12:04] <Ben64> if you want, i'd suggest using a better dns server though
[12:04] <alkisg> comment out the dns=dnsmasq line
[12:05] <alkisg> Then restart network manager
[12:05] <alkisg> At that point, dnsmasq won't break your queries
[12:06] <Kaili> Ben64 : <IP_ADDRESS> is the DNS of a french network association providing internet connection and fighting for privacy and network freedom, kinda like them :-)
[12:06] <Kaili> alkisg: I don't have this name
[12:06] <Kaili> alkisg: I don't have this line
[12:07] <alkisg> Kaili: what are the file contents? maybe they changed it, I have 16.04
[12:07] <Kaili> [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile  [ifupdown] managed=false
[12:07] <Kaili> That's it
[12:07] <alkisg> Hrm, what about sudo grep -r dnsmasq /etc/NetworkManager ?
[12:07] <alkisg> Any mentions there?
[12:08] <Kaili> Nothing
[12:08]  * alkisg hopes they moved to systemd-networkd!!!
[12:08] <alkisg> Do you have dnsmasq running?
[12:08] <alkisg> ps aux|grep dnsmasq
[12:08] <Kaili> No :p
[12:08] <alkisg> And that's 17.04?
[12:09] <Kaili> No
[12:09] <Ben64> what is it
[12:09] <Kaili> But maybe things got messed up with time...
[12:09] <Ben64> that's not how things work
[12:09] <Kaili> 16.04
[12:09] <Ben64> is is really? or is it some non-ubuntu
[12:09] <alkisg> Kaili: what's the output of `sudo netstat -nap | grep 53` ?
[12:10] <alkisg> Good call, Ben6 :D
[12:10] <alkisg> *64
[12:10] <svg-nobl> screen
[12:12]  * alkisg waves...
[12:14] <stak> ebrlbleubrc
[12:14] <stak> hi
[12:15] <Kaili> Does that look like ubuntu enough : http://i.imgur.com/xhlCn3V.jpg ?
[12:16] <acheron-a> looks nice
[12:17] <acheron-a> Kaili: what application is TEX?
[12:17] <xinhengyu> What is the meaning of changing the data in /etc/hosts?
[12:18] <Kaili> It's texmaker, I like it to write latex documents
[12:18] <Bryte> hollas
[12:18] <acheron-a> Kaili: oh, okay, thanks
[12:19] <Zen> Kaili: did you get the output of the netstat command that alkisg asked for?
[12:28] <wangjizhen> 11
[12:28] <wangjizhen> test
[12:28] <ThinkT510> !test | wangjizhen
[12:32] <Acheron-a> thanks Kaili for that idea, running chat now in a browser tab
[12:36] <csulok> Hello guys, is there somebody here who has 7th gen intel cpu and uses igp on Ubuntu? i usually get a graphics interface crash after 2-3 hours. There is no problem with the hardware under other OSs
[12:38] <geirha> xinhengyu: what do you mean?
[12:41] <hateball> csulok: is this on 16.04 or 16.10?
[12:41] <hateball> csulok: if you feel adventurous you could try oibaf ppa for newer mesa, see if that is more stable for you
[12:42] <csulok> hateball: It is on 16.04 LTS now, but had the same issue with 16.10, but i got the advise to install an LTS version to solve it
[12:42] <Acheron-a> there is a gen 7 intel out now?
[12:42] <acresearch> hello people, i am looking for a server to host a website, have not done so before, any reccomendations?
[12:43] <adityaduggal> Hi I am getting a Failed to Start session message when I enter the username of a newly created account in Ubuntu 16.04
[12:43] <ThinkT510> csulok: are you using the hardware enablement stack on the LTS?
[12:43] <csulok> Acheron-a: yes, from pentiums to i7 cpus (7700)
[12:43] <geirha> adityaduggal: How did you create the user?
[12:43] <csulok> ThinkT510: im not sure, i dont exactly know what does it mean :(
[12:43] <Acheron-a> ahh, from 6700 to 7700, thanks
[12:44] <adityaduggal> geirha: I have created the user with GUI and its a standard user with NO PASSWORD
[12:44] <ThinkT510> !hwe | csulok
[12:44] <csulok> Thanks, i will check this :)
[12:45] <OerHeks> acresearch, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server & the online manual https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[12:45] <adityaduggal> geirha, I also have disabled the login id name on the welcome screen
[12:45] <adityaduggal> I have edited the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/10-ubuntu.conf file
[12:46] <adityaduggal> and the content of the file are as per this: http://pastebin.com/vqkXWuRS
[12:47] <acresearch> OerHeks: no i meant online services,,, i do not have the technical ability to setup an in-house server + my internet it not fast nor reliable
[12:47] <adityaduggal> Though I am able to login with the admin user but I am not getting any side bar etc
[12:47] <OerHeks> acresearch, oh, this channel is not for looking for webhosting. this is ubuntu support.
[12:47] <adityaduggal> This problem has happened only after the creation of the user and was not there earlier
[12:48] <acresearch> OerHeks: sorry, can you direct me to the best channel then?
[12:48] <ThinkT510> !alis | acresearch
[12:48] <OerHeks> acresearch, dunno, look in the lists? see !alis
[12:48] <acresearch> ok
[12:49] <adityaduggal> geirha, any solution since I have tried to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop etc
[12:51] <geirha> adityaduggal: shouldn't line 2 be two lines?
[12:51] <ThinkT510> adityaduggal: why did you want to set up a user account with no password? isn't that what the guest account is for?
[12:51] <geirha> key=value<newline>key=value<newline>...
[12:57] <adityaduggal> geirha, I think you are correct, I would try and let you know
[12:58] <adityaduggal> geirha, the username without password is for office staff to use and save the docs on the computer, since we are a small office we use no password for these desktops
[12:59] <adityaduggal> though I want to create a username for each employee but managing that on every computer with common password is not known to be and I cant seem to find a solution for that as well
[13:00] <Kaili> alkisg Zen : sudo: netstat : command not found
[13:02] <Zen> Kaili: # apt install net-tools
[13:03] <adityaduggal> geirha, I am still getting the problem of Failed to Start Session
[13:03] <Kaili> Zen : There are too many lines
[13:03] <Kaili> Which one are you interested in ?
[13:03] <Zen> Kaili: none, that installs the network tools which include netstat
[13:04] <Zen> So try the netstat command again
[13:04] <Kaili> Yes, I ran netstat already, too many lines
[13:04] <Zen> All of them, use paste.ubuntu.com to share the output
[13:05] <Kaili> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24215184/
[13:06] <Zen> right, so the dns caching is doing by systemd-resolved
[13:08] <Zen> Which is odd, if you are using network manager..
[13:08] <kevin_> e
[13:10] <geirha> adityaduggal: why not have a password? they'll need a password for keyrings anyway ... and you can log them in automatically even though they do have a password
[13:10] <adityaduggal> ThinkT510, the username without password is for office staff to use and save the docs on the computer, since we are a small office we use no password for these desktops in case of guest we wont be able to save anything at all
[13:10] <Kaili> I guess I will reinstall, It's all messed up, probably because at some points I used proposed version of softwares for development en debugging :p
[13:11] <geirha> as for the current problem, I don't see why it fails. I'd go look for some log files for clues
[13:11] <adityaduggal> geirha, now since I can't even login with my admin account I cannot set the password for that restricted account as well
[13:11] <geirha> adityaduggal: virtual console login still works though? ctrl+alt+f1
[13:12] <adityaduggal> yes I am logged into the system via ssh as well
[13:12] <adityaduggal> so both virtual console and ssh are working
[13:12] <geirha> so you can do that from there
[13:14] <adityaduggal> I have already changed the user password
[13:17] <adityaduggal> geirha, I am still getting the sasme failed to start session for standard account and no unity shown for the admin account
[13:18] <geirha> sure you haven't messed with any of the xsession files? also check lightdm logs and ~/.xsession-errors
[13:24] <xinhengyu> I typed the command"su",and it needs a code.What should I do?
[13:24] <Sebastien> xinhengyu
[13:24] <Sebastien> put in your shell password?
[13:25] <Sebastien> if you dont know what "su" is for, dont use it
[13:26] <xinhengyu> I put in my passwowd.But it failed.
[13:26] <Zen> If you don't know what a command does, don't use it until you do, copying stuff from website without understanding what it does is dangerous
[13:28] <OerHeks> xinhengyu, what is your goal with su ?
[13:28] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/70534/what-are-the-differences-between-su-sudo-s-sudo-i-sudo-su
[13:28] <HermanDE> Morning all....
[13:29] <adityaduggal> can any one help me with this error Unable to start session
[13:29] <HermanDE> Has anybody been successful running an IPV6 network with multiple RAs running and Ubuntu selecting the proper route?
[13:30] <xinhengyu> I want to change the data in /etc/hosts.When I typed"sudo gedit /etc/hosts",the warning from iBUS appeared.
[13:30] <HermanDE> ----Default Route ----
[13:30] <xinhengyu> By the way,I am not able to use vim.
[13:31] <OerHeks> xinhengyu, those are just warnings, you can ignore that.
[13:31] <Zen> xinhengyu: use gksudo in place of sudo too
[13:31] <XOrz> hi all
[13:31] <OerHeks> Zen +1 that would be proper
[13:31] <xinhengyu> Let me try.
[13:31] <Snuggy> hi
[13:31] <HermanDE> xinhengyu, use sed
[13:32] <Snuggy> im new to this can someone help me out
[13:32] <Zen> xinhengyu: if you want a more user friendly terminal editor then you can use nano btw
[13:32] <Zen> Snuggy: whats your problem?
[13:32] <Snuggy> I installed linux
[13:33] <Zen> ..and?
[13:33] <Snuggy> but I think it deleted windows
[13:33] <Snuggy> so like everything that was on my computer using windows is no longer there
[13:33] <ponyrider> Snuggy: open a terminal and type "df"
[13:34] <Snuggy> ok :D
[13:35] <Snuggy> um so now what ;v
[13:35] <Zen> Snuggy: this is a lesson a lot of new linux users learn btw, don't be to hasty with messing with dual boot as one thing may break the other :)
[13:35] <Snuggy> oh thank you
[13:35] <ponyrider> can you post the output? do you kknow how to do that?
[13:35] <ponyrider> Snuggy: probably windows it still there, but your bootloader cant see it
[13:36] <Snuggy> so what should I do ;(
[13:36] <xinhengyu> It warned that"(gedit:1711): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/xinhengyu/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[13:36] <xinhengyu> (gedit:1711): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[13:36] <xinhengyu> ** (gedit:1711): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: 不支持设置属性 metadata::gedit-spell-enabled
[13:36] <xinhengyu> ** (gedit:1711): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: 不支持设置属性 metadata::gedit-encoding
[13:36] <xinhengyu> ** (gedit:1711): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: 不支持设置属性 metadata::gedit-spell-enabled
[13:37] <xinhengyu> ** (gedit:1711): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: 不支持设置属性 metadata::gedit-encoding
[13:37] <Snuggy> I had it on a flashdrive xD but I was messing around too much and accidently installed it
[13:37] <Zen> xinhengyu: ignore that
[13:37] <ponyrider> Snuggy: what is the output of df?
[13:37] <Zen> xinhengyu: Also use paste.ubuntu.com for sharing many lines of text
[13:38] <Snuggy> idek what that means >_>
[13:38] <Snuggy> im sorry im so new to this
[13:38] <ponyrider> Snuggy: copy and paste this directly into terminal
[13:38] <ponyrider> alias sprunge="curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us"
[13:38] <eisrald> hello
[13:38] <Snuggy> ah ok thanks
[13:38] <ponyrider> Snuggy: then type the following:
[13:38] <ponyrider> df | sprunge
[13:39] <eisrald> can you help me?
[13:39] <eisrald> I have a doubt
[13:39] <teknik> selam millet
[13:39] <ponyrider> Snuggy: paste the link
[13:40] <Zen> eisrald: We can only help if you tell us what is wrong :)
[13:40] <hmz365> bash: sprunge: command not found
[13:40] <eisrald> ok Zen
[13:40] <Snuggy> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[13:41] <OerHeks> "df | sprunge" does not work, try 'df | nc termbin.com 9999'
[13:41] <Snuggy> Thanks for the help :D
[13:41] <eisrald> I do not know how to download my iphone photos on ubuntu
[13:42] <hmz365> bash: nc: command not found
[13:42] <ponyrider> hmz365: dont
[13:42] <ponyrider> Snuggy: cant help if you dont post
[13:43] <Snuggy> sorry I got my uncle to tell me what to do
[13:43] <OerHeks> hmz365,  nc is standard available in ubuntu, so what linux are you on?
[13:43] <Snuggy> Thank you anyway ;v
[13:46] <Snuggy> what is easystroke gesture recognition
[13:46] <hmz365> OerHeks:  porteus 4.5.2
[13:48] <OerHeks> hmz365, so your remark is confusing, and offtopic
[13:50] <Lukker> hello guys
[13:51] <Lukker> how to determine which system process ,init, systemd or upstart is running on Ubuntu 16.10
[13:53] <ogra_> Lukker, everything after 14.04 uses systremd
[13:53] <ogra_> -r
[13:54] <Lukker> ok , thank you
[13:54] <OerHeks> to check> sudo stat /proc/1/exe
[13:55] <OerHeks> ogra +1
[13:56] <Lukker> i have checked with systemctl --version
[13:58] <ponyrider> Lukker: systemctl - Control the systemd system and service manager
[13:58] <ponyrider> :)
[14:01] <Lukker> #ponyrider you are right.I am a newbie and i still have alot to learn. I appreciate the help:)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:16] <mantise> admins or something, this guy keep whisper me weird stuff with my connection and if i can download a file for him- http://paste.ubuntu.com/24215518/
[14:20] <ZeEKz> How can I check my hostname
[14:20] <geirha> hostname
[14:21] <BluesKaj> zeekhuge, the prompt in the terminal shows it
[14:22] <BluesKaj> oops he left, sorry zeekhuge
[14:22] <zeekhuge> BluesKaj: :)
[14:24] <xinhengyu> What is the data in /etc/hosts?
[14:25] <geirha> xinhengyu: That question is vague
[14:26] <BluesKaj> xinhengyu, your hostname
[14:27] <xinhengyu> What does it do?
[14:28] <xinhengyu> <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:28] <xinhengyu> And the localhost is <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:29] <OerHeks> open terminal: hostnamectl status
[14:29] <Vuurdraak_> Hi evrybody, Im trying to get a game going that needs GLIBCXX_3.4.21, it is provided for ubuntu 14.04 lts in:  ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test , I installed it and did a dist-upgrade, but still get an error:   version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference.
[14:31] <holycarp> Can anyone help me out with my Ubuntu install? I've had a ton of issues, but the most recent one I can't figure out what to do about is freezing at "A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes up(time/no limit)"
[14:32] <xinhengyu> What if I put some data in the directory?
[14:32] <john_doe_jr> How do I find the key code for the bind command that can use…for example I know that \cn maps to CTRL-N?
[14:32] <xinhengyu> or file
[14:36] <\\Mr_C\\> is it possible to create a symlink that can be accessed by ftp?
[14:37] <Vuurdraak_> holycrap, it's best to look in your log files like kern.log in var/log/ and search for sentences that are marked with error, a startup job that runs untill the boot process finishes doesnt sound like a problem to me, not sure what problems you got
[14:39] <Vuurdraak_> \\Mr_C\\, ln should make links use ln -s to make symbolic links
[14:45] <phos1> I am trying to send emails through ubuntu using MSMTP. It sends a few emails fine, and then I always get “cannot connect to smtp.**** port 25 connection timed out”. I am sending through a office 365 hybrid server
[14:50] <brunch875> Hello! After sending my laptop for repairs (around christmas), they seem to have updated the BIOS. Now I broke some packages and I wanted to clean-reinstall ubuntu, but now the live USB hangs before anything loads. Could it be those UEFI craps? I don't remember which settings were there by default
[14:51] <brunch875> Should I disable TPM 2.0 and UEFI boot? What do those even do?
[14:52] <zerochris> hello guys
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | brunch875
[14:55] <brunch875> yeah, I'm reading that right now...
[14:55] <brunch875> I can choose an entry on the live USB but then it hangs
[14:56] <brunch875> Is UEFI to blame? Note that I'm running ubuntu 16.10 right now
[14:56] <brunch875> I just don't understand why liveUSB has stopped working for me. I can't reinstall ubutnu :/
[14:56] <dax> Ubuntu works fine with UEFI. It may or may not work with secure boot (it's supposed to, but I've had issues). TPM is irrelevant to the boot process unless your firmware's doing something extra fun.
[14:57] <OerHeks> brunch875, check the bios, disable Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT) too
[14:58] <brunch875> OerHeks: I don't remember seeing that setting, but I'll note that
[14:59] <brunch875> I'll just go on and disable TPM, see if it does anything. I'll see you in a sec
[15:08] <lerner> 8 months ago I used goldendict to run all my dictionaries.Is there something better than that now?
[15:11] <Vuurdraak_> Anybody has any idea on this :) Im trying to get a game going that needs GLIBCXX_3.4.21, it is provided for ubuntu 14.04 lts in:  ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test , I installed it and did a dist-upgrade, but still get an error:   version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[15:11] <robertzaccour> howdy
[15:11] <robertzaccour> My touchpad stops working seconds after booting up. Any suggestions?
[15:12] <Vuurdraak_> buy a new touchpad :) ?
[15:12] <cariaso> I've got a cluster with N nodes, exactly 1 node has hostname weirdness, where hostname -A shows a wrong value. I know I can probably fix this with hostname -F, but I'd like to be able to explain why I see the current value, before I overwrite. values in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname follow the same pattern as all other nodes. is there something I can check on the dns that might explain it?
[15:12] <Vuurdraak_> sorry just joking :)
[15:21] <robertzaccour_> My touchpad stops working seconds after I log in. How do I fix this?
[15:21] <Vuurdraak_> robertzaccour_, can you do a safemode boot ? and get to the command line ?
[15:22] <Vuurdraak_> because if you can the you should be able to get to the log files in var/log
[15:22] <Vuurdraak_> and possibly find the offending error in kern.log
[15:23] <robertzaccour_> Vuurdraak_: How do I do safe boot? And the pointer works fine in 16.04 and the daily build of 17.04.
[15:23] <robertzaccour_> I meant touchpad works fine in those 2.
[15:23] <Vuurdraak_> im using a desktop and grub normaly gives the option to boot in to safe mode
[15:23] <Vuurdraak_> on boot time
[15:24] <brunch875> OerHeks: turns out disabling UEFI solved the issue
[15:24] <Vuurdraak_> not sure hwo that works with a touchpad
[15:24] <brunch875> what baffles me is my current ubuntu installation is on UEFI
[15:25] <BluesKaj> brunch875, because that's how you installed iUbuntu , UEFI was enabled by default
[15:26] <brunch875> BluesKaj: yes, and surprisingly enough 16.10 live usb (which is the same I'm running) doesn't boot anymore on UEFI
[15:27] <Vuurdraak_> magic :D
[15:27]  * brunch875 has second thoughts about computer engineering
[15:27] <brunch875> should've joined the school of computer wizardry instead
[15:27] <BluesKaj> brunch875, well ,you must have set usb boot in legacy mode then
[15:28] <Vuurdraak_> computer engineering is done on floor 9 3/4 you have to run through the wal ;)
[15:28] <brunch875> BluesKaj: according to wiki, you can tell which mode it's booting on by how the menu displays
[15:29] <brunch875> the menu does show in UEFI mode when running UEFI
[15:29] <brunch875> but it cannot launch the graphical interface after the menu
[15:29] <brunch875> it just gets stuck
[15:30] <brunch875> there must be something really fishy going on this laptop's UEFI
[15:30] <BluesKaj> brunch875, you can see modes in the uefi/bios
[15:31] <brunch875> BluesKaj: I'm not sure I'm following
[15:32] <john_doe_jr> when I use the bind command w/ the —keys option…how do I know which keys are acceptable?
[15:32] <ponyrider> brunch875: dhit delete or f2 before you boot
[15:33] <brunch875> You mean apart from toggling UEFI on / off on the BIOS and the live USB recognizing this mode, there should also be a setting in the BIOS which overrides UEFI mode on the USB itself?
[15:33] <ponyrider> brunch875: no
[15:34] <ponyrider> brunch875: its a dual boot iso isn't it?
[15:34] <brunch875> ponyrider: no, I only ever used ubuntu on this
[15:34] <brunch875> I'm pretty sure I installed it back in the day with with UEFI enabled
[15:34] <brunch875> but the liveUSB doesn't load on UEFI anymore
[15:35] <ponyrider> lets assume its UEFI
[15:35] <brunch875> and by that I mean it gets stuck after choosing "try ubuntu" in the menu
[15:35] <BluesKaj> brunch875, is the usb stick first in the boot sequnec, if not then it won't boot
[15:35] <brunch875> the liveUSB UEFI menu, that is
[15:35] <ponyrider> mmm.. how are you making the usb
[15:36] <brunch875> with the ubuntu creator, as always
[15:36] <brunch875> BluesKaj: it does boot from the USB
[15:36] <brunch875> it's just that ubuntu@usb hangs after choosing the menu entry in UEFI mode
[15:36] <BluesKaj> boot sequence in the uefi/bios
[15:37] <brunch875> by menu entry I mean this one: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[15:37] <ponyrider> its not the boot sequence he says he gets in
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[15:38] <ponyrider> reformat the usb sometimes they dont work
[15:38] <BluesKaj> oh, missed that, was getting some lunch
[15:39] <brunch875_> Sorry, internet died on me
[15:39] <brunch875_> What I was saying is that I am currently running ubuntu with UEFI enabled
[15:40] <brunch875_> and the liveUSB hangs after choosing its menu entry
[15:40] <terrible> what is the best disc burn app for create a mp3 disc that can be play on cars radio??
[15:40] <brunch875_> but if I disable uefi, the liveUSB works fine
[15:40] <brunch875_> (obviously, booting from HDD won't, since ubuntu is installed on UEFI atm)
[15:43] <nejm> Hey everyone, a quick question: what is the syntax for an alias in .bash_aliases that uses an argument, the name of a file for example?
[15:44] <stan_man_can> nejm, this is an alias I have setup
[15:44] <stan_man_can> alias homestead='function __homestead() { (cd ~/Homestead && vagrant $*); unset -f __homestead; }; __homestead'
[15:44] <stan_man_can> it passes all arguments in
[15:44] <stan_man_can> I believe $ is the arguements but I'm not sure what the * is for
[15:45] <nejm> hmmm $ you say? I'll try it for a second
[15:45] <brunch875_> $ isn't the arguments
[15:45] <brunch875_> it's $*
[15:45] <stan_man_can> oh the combo of them is
[15:45] <stan_man_can> thanks brunch875_ :)
[15:46] <brunch875_> stan_man_can: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Special-Parameters
[15:46] <stan_man_can> In other news, I have a fresh 16.04.2 install (aisde from a few programs I use for work) and it's already acting up on me
[15:46] <stan_man_can> some apps once I open them and minimize, they won't re-open
[15:46] <stan_man_can> Screen Display for instance
[15:46] <stan_man_can> if I try and launch it from unity launcher absolutly nothing hapens
[15:47] <stan_man_can> actually in hindsight nothing seems to be launching from unity launcher so that's good
[15:48] <fishcooker> thanks for pointed the link OerHeks, i hope it wont happen again after i install the latest intel graphic... just awake that my radeon is idle. so for daily usage the intel driver take over the duty
[15:49] <EriC^> j #linux
[15:49] <u0_a165> text
[15:50] <nejm> brunch875_: About the aliases: so I tried "alias bk='cp $* $*.bak'", but I believe it does not work...
[15:51] <nejm> What am I doing wrong?
[15:51] <EriC^^> nejm: you can't use parameters in aliases, you need to use a function
[15:51] <terrible> what is the best disc burn app for create a mp3 disc that can be play on cars radio??
[15:52] <EriC^^> nejm: bk() { stuff; }
[15:52] <nejm> aha, but I have to declare arguments between the brackets right?
[15:52] <EriC^^> no
[15:53] <EriC^^> nejm: bk() { cp "$1" "$1.bak"; }
[15:53] <nejm> EriC^^: I'll try it out
[15:54] <pavlos> terrible, http://askubuntu.com/questions/7543/how-to-create-a-music-cd-from-mp3-files
[15:55] <ren0v0> Hi, can anyone recommend software to split videos without re-encoding
[15:56] <bryceml> ren0v0: I think ffmpeg can do it from command line.  vlc probably can as well.
[15:57] <nejm> EriC^^: It's not working... :(
[15:57] <ponyrider> ffmpeg
[15:57] <nejm> I just want to copy a file and append .bak to it, I used alias bak="bak() { cp "$1" "$1.bak"; }" but it's not working, with or without brackets around the funtion
[15:57] <ren0v0> bryceml, i tried it, but it freezes the video for first 5 odd seconds at the start
[15:57] <EriC^^> nejm: without alias
[15:57] <EriC^^> nejm: type bak() { cp "$1" "$1.bak"; }
[15:57] <EriC^^> just that
[15:57] <bryceml> ren0v0: with ffmpeg?
[15:57] <ponyrider> cp "$1" "$1".bak
[15:58] <nejm> Thanks guys, it's working!
[15:58] <ren0v0> bryceml, yea
[15:58] <ponyrider> # ffmpeg -ss [start] -i in.mp4 -t [duration] -c copy out.mp4
[15:58] <teward> Has anyone had issues lately with network-manager and dnsmasq?
[15:59] <ponyrider> something like that
[15:59] <ren0v0> ponyrider, doesn't work
[15:59] <teward> on my 16.04 machine here, it just stopped resolving anything, so I had to switch to my local bind9 on my laptop instead
[15:59] <ponyrider> omg you have to change [start] and [duration]
[15:59] <ponyrider> and -i in.mp4.. to the file
[15:59] <ren0v0> ponyrider, no read what i said above, it freezes at the start
[15:59] <ren0v0> i think its something related to key frames, though i tried to output the key frames and start on one but it didn't work
[16:00] <ponyrider> type exactly what yuo are putting into the terminal
[16:00] <ren0v0> thought i'd logged the command but can't find it, let me check bash history
[16:00] <ren0v0> it was some days ago
[16:00] <ren0v0> ffmpeg -i Event-185192-r1-s1.avi -vcodec copy -ss 00:09:00 -t 00:10:00 Event-185192-cut.avi
[16:01] <ponyrider> thats not the command i pasted
[16:01] <ponyrider> oh. it is.. but i think the order is important
[16:01] <ponyrider> -ss needs to go first IIRC
[16:02] <ren0v0> ponyrider, i'm not saying the command is failing, i'm saying it results in a video with frozen frames
[16:02] <ren0v0> i'll try again and see
[16:03] <ponyrider> ren0v0: i have tested it, it works for me. type it exactly as i wrote it
[16:06] <teward> Anyone know why dnsmasq / Network Manager would suddenly stop accepting DNS requests from the system?  It's breaking DNS on my laptop.
[16:07] <ren0v0> ponyrider, it works, not sure if its that or because i'm using it on different container (mkv) instead of (avi)
[16:07] <ponyrider> check journalctl
[16:07] <ponyrider> it works?
[16:07] <ren0v0> yes, i have the avi, going to check it on old command and new and see if its that
[16:07] <ren0v0> interested to know why
[16:07] <ponyrider> i think its because the -ss if FIRST otherwise ffmpeg interprets it as something else
[16:08] <ren0v0> no it was cutting it as i've said
[16:08] <kevr> is there an armhf version of ubuntu 16.04 lts server?
[16:09] <kevr> downloading the standard link gives me amd64
[16:09] <ren0v0> ponyrider, yea weird, i did it on the avi with my old command and its frozen, ran it on the mkv and its fine
[16:09] <ren0v0> so not related to order, but something else i have no idea about :D
[16:10] <ponyrider> When used as an input option (before "-i"), seeks in this input
[16:10] <ponyrider>            file to position.
[16:10] <k1l> kevr: for arm devices you can use a generic iso since there are no generic drivers like there are for the pc platform.
[16:10] <k1l> *cant
[16:10] <ponyrider> When used as an output option (before an output url), decodes but
[16:10] <ponyrider>            discards input until the timestamps reach position.
[16:11] <kevr> k1l: that's chill
[16:11] <ponyrider> that would be frozen frames
[16:11] <kevr> however there is a xenial armhf repository that's completely working
[16:11] <kevr> so im assuming since there's an amd64 image available for rpi, there's an armhf somewhere
[16:11] <kevr> arm64*
[16:12] <kevr> sorry, i meant arm64 the whole time heh, not amd64
[16:12] <ren0v0> ponyrider, let me run your command/format on it and see
[16:12] <k1l> kevr: ubuntu doesnt support the old hardware from the 1st pi
[16:12] <kevr> that's chill as well
[16:12] <ren0v0> ponyrider, yup works on the avi
[16:12] <kevr> i have an armv7 rpi 3
[16:13] <ponyrider> im not sure what that actually means
[16:13] <ren0v0> weird how the other format works on the mkv though ?
[16:13] <ren0v0> well it works, so thanks :)
[16:13] <ponyrider> yeah i don't know. ffmpeg is pretty complicated
[16:13] <kevr> i have the hardware to support it, im looking for a standard armhf image to download
[16:13] <ponyrider> np
[16:14] <k1l> kevr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[16:15] <nicomachus> kevr: Ubuntu MATE has an image for the rpi3 that I use. It's nice. Also, #ubuntu-arm
[16:15] <kevr> yeah, i got ubuntu MATE as well, i need a ton of different flavors
[16:15] <kevr> trying to also see what the vanilla ubuntu arm has to offer
[16:16] <nicomachus> kevr: MATE is the only arm image that I know of.
[16:16] <kevr> o_O
[16:16] <kevr> nicomachus: the link that k1l has a community driven armhf image; the official ubuntu webpage also has an arm64 download
[16:17] <kevr> only for 16.04 lts, but that's fine
[16:17] <kevr> that he posted*
[16:18] <instigator> Hello. when trying to update with apt-get update, I am getting the following error: W: GPG error: http://za.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:18] <k1l> kevr: you do understand that arm and pc are two totally different platforms? and as i said already there cant be ubuntu.iso for all arm devices like there are for the pcs since we dont have the generic open source drivers. so you need a special image just made for the rpi3
[16:18] <instigator> Running the following command does not fix the problem: apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192
[16:18] <kevr> yes, i do
[16:18] <kevr> i completely understand that
[16:19] <k1l> ok. so ubuntu gives out a basic image, which you still need to adjust to your arm board in use and put the drivers there.
[16:19] <kevr> and yes, i know that, which is why im looking for an _armhf_ iso, which i found at the link you posted earlier, but it's a community image, so i was wondering if ubuntu had an official one
[16:19] <kevr> not iso, an image*
[16:20] <kevr> right. understandable. however there's only an arm64 iso, there is no default armhf iso
[16:20] <kevr> which is what i was inquiring about
[16:20] <kevr> because if i have an armhf strict device, arm64 won't load on a 32-bit system
[16:21] <kevr> as far as i know.
[16:23] <ponyrider> it wont
[16:23] <ppf> assume i have a program using mmap/munmap. is there a way, at runtime inside a library (within the same process), to enumerate the mmaps?
[16:25] <max> Are there any real people here?
[16:26] <ponyrider> ppf: subshell?
[16:26] <V1P3R_LeUnG> yes ^^
[16:26] <ppf> ponyrider: i'm talking about processes and systemcalls
[16:28] <ponyrider> well, i dont know what your talking about, but i was thinking you would make your nmap function run in the background, pipe stdout to a file and enumerate over the file
[16:28] <ponyrider> ppf: what did you want to do exactly?
[16:29] <ppf> Mmap
[16:29] <ponyrider> ooo
[16:29] <ppf> i have a program that mmaps a file into it's address space. and i'd like to be notified whence it munmaps that file
[16:30] <kevr> do you have control over that programs code
[16:30] <kevr> ?
[16:31] <ppf> limited control. i'm a library, the program is my client
[16:31] <kevr> gotcha
[16:32] <ponyrider> ppf: i have noooo idea
[16:32] <ppf> i can read /proc/PID/maps, of course. but i'm looking for something more comfortable
[16:32] <ponyrider> ppf: why are yuo in #ubuntu?
[16:33] <ppf> to learn everything there is to know about making pizza
[16:33] <kevr> ppf: if you don't have control over what the program does, then its kind of tough to get a "clean" solution tbh
[16:33] <kevr> id say as a library if there's something dependent on needing to do that between the client and the library, write some type of event function you can fire off when you munmap
[16:34] <kevr> or provide a function that does both at once to obscure it
[16:34] <ponyrider> can yuo access another programs memory?
[16:34] <ppf> i was hoping for some sort of hook registration type thing, where the kernel'd call me back if an munmap happens
[16:34] <kevr> hmm, im not sure if there's any such facility
[16:34] <kevr> i mean, you can always select/poll
[16:35] <kevr> but like you said, that's kinda uncomfy
[16:35] <ppf> select  what?
[16:35] <ppf> /proc/self/maps?
[16:35] <kevr> just for changes on the maps
[16:36] <kevr> seems hacky compared to just registering an event in the library though
[16:36] <ppf> yeah but what would i hook the event onto?
[16:37] <ponyrider> ppf: in bash?
[16:37] <ppf> ponyrider: in bash?
[16:37] <kevr> when something is done. i mean, there's a process where you mmap, do something, then munmap. perhaps you could write library functions that handles both mmap and munmap for you, then you can register a callback to fire when the client calls munmap from the lib
[16:38] <kevr> there's gotta be communication some way, i don't think there is a kernel hook for that specifically
[16:38] <kevr> though i could be wrong.
[16:39] <kevr> i mean it depends what you're doing right, if you don't have access to compiling the client then you're pretty much trying to hack logic into something you can't control, which will be messy regardless
[16:39] <kevr> but if you have access to compiling it, you can just write good code
[16:41] <ponyrider> ppf: what about gdb?
[16:42] <ppf> ponyrider: you're not making sense
[16:43] <luisveloz> hola soy de venezuela
[16:44] <ppf> kevr: replacing mmap seems logical. the problem with this is that it's  too optimistic. I mustn't miss an mmap and shouldn't miss an unmap
[16:45] <pavlos> !ve | luisveloz
[16:45] <luisveloz> que mas pavlos
[16:46] <pavlos> luisveloz, the code for venezuela is .ve but the bot does not know ...
[16:47] <ppf> pavlos: it does languages only
[16:47] <ppf> i think
[16:47] <ppf> !es | luisveloz
[16:47] <pavlos> ppf, ty
[16:47] <Mo0O> hi there
[16:48] <Mo0O> do you know if I can create a usb bootable from 16.04.2 usin only `dd` command?
[16:49] <ppf> Mo0O: yes
[16:49] <ponyrider> you can
[16:49] <luisveloz> a ok gracias amigo
[16:49] <Mo0O> that rox!
[16:49] <zykotick9> Mo0O: cp is easier...
[16:49] <Mo0O> thanks
[16:49] <pavlos> Mo0O, sure, dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdX whatever your device is
[16:49] <Mo0O> great
[16:50] <ppf> zykotick9: cp and dd don't do the same thing
[16:50] <zykotick9> ppf: actually, they do.
[16:50] <ponyrider> cp doesnt write boot sector
[16:50] <zykotick9> ponyrider: it does
[16:50] <ppf> Mo0O: throw in a bs=4M, or it will take ages
[16:50] <zykotick9> "sudo cp image.iso /dev/sdX" works just fine.
[16:50] <ponyrider> ok
[16:51] <al2o3-cr> cat foo.iso > /dev/sdX && sync ftw :p
[16:51] <zykotick9> al2o3-cr: NOT on ubuntu.  sudo is broken with the >
[16:52] <al2o3-cr> is it?
[16:52] <ppf> zykotick9: why ubuntu specifically
[16:52] <zykotick9> ppf: 'caue ubuntu uses sudo by default.
[16:52] <ponyrider> only with ubuntu? the iso you mean?
[16:52] <ppf> zykotick9: with dd you can specify a blocksize
[16:52] <zykotick9> ppf: true, which can slow things down, over using cp/cat
[16:53] <ppf> if you choose the wrong one, sure :)
[16:53] <ppf> but that's more or less the only major difference
[16:53] <ppf> in fact, the only reason i use dd over cp is because i can ask it for progress
[16:53] <ponyrider> dd doesnt output progress
[16:53] <ppf> zykotick9: what do mean specifically by 'sudo by default'
[16:54] <ppf> ponyrider: it does if you send it a USR1
[16:54] <pavlos> ponyrider, you can pipe pv in between
[16:54] <zykotick9> ppf: not sure what you are asking.  ubuntu uses sudo instead of the root account by default.
[16:55] <ponyrider> pv.. cool
[16:55] <al2o3-cr> ponyrider: status=progress in newer dd
[16:55] <vinzenz> yxcvbnm1
[16:55] <Vuurdraak> yup it's not recommended to change the root pasword as it's some secret random number
[16:55] <vinzenz> yxcvbnm1
[16:55] <Vuurdraak> changing it makes u less secure
[16:55] <ppf> zykotick9: not sure what you mean, sudo is a command, root is a user
[16:55] <ppf> vinzenz: time for a new password
[16:55] <stan_man_can> I found a bug
[16:56] <ppf> !bug
[16:56] <pavlos> ponyrider, install pv, then dd if=image.iso | pv | dd of=/dev/sdX
[16:56] <ponyrider> yeah yeah cool
[16:57] <ppf> Vurtatoo: the default root pw is empty (empty pw means disabled login)
[16:57] <Vuurdraak> -hands stan_man_can a flyswatter-
[16:57] <stan_man_can> how do you know what pacakge it’s in? it’s from a fresh install; if you try to change the unity launcher to a different monitor after you apply the change the Screen Display window cant be pulled to the front so you can’t ‘confirm’ changes and the change reverts
[16:58] <Vuurdraak> anyway have fun all im off to the supermarket o/
[16:58] <sirius0503> hello
[17:04] <Jay__> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and Libre Office and just about any other  word processor refuses to open. I get
[17:04] <Jay__> Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding ImportError: bad magic number in 'encodings': b'\xee\x0c\r\n'  Current thread 0xaf91fc00 (most recent call first): Application Error
[17:04] <Jay__> Has anyone any idea what this means or how to fix it? Thanks
[17:05] <mmanso> Hi All...
[17:05] <KongWubba> hi
[17:05] <Jay__> Hi
[17:05] <mmanso> I've a machine with UEFI BIOS... I'm trying to boot a linux distro on it using a PEN drive I've made with Rufus.
[17:05] <pavlos> Jay__, can you echo $PYTHONPATH
[17:05] <stan_man_can> Actually Screen Display is just giving me a ton of problems in general
[17:05] <stan_man_can> i can’t re-arrange my monitors for the same reason
[17:06] <mmanso> I've tryed 5 different distros with no success... If I use rufus to put Clonezilla on the same PEN, I can boot it...
[17:06] <stan_man_can> the confirm page refuses to display
[17:06] <mmanso> I'm lost here... anyone could point me to the right direction?
[17:06] <Jay__> @pavlos I have no idea what you say means. How would I do it?
[17:06] <Jay__> Oh you mean put that in the terminal?
[17:06] <k1l> mmanso: ubuntu works well with rufus and ubuntu. we cant tell you for other "linux"
[17:06] <ponyrider> do use rufus
[17:07] <ponyrider> *dont
[17:07] <mmanso> Ubuntu is my ditro of choice
[17:07] <EriC^^> mmanso: try linux live usb creator
[17:07] <mmanso> I've tryed others to check if the problem was the same
[17:07] <pavlos> Jay__, seems that you have python3.5 but for some reason it cannot find it
[17:07] <mmanso> EriC^^:
[17:07] <EriC^^> mmanso: try to disable fastboot and secureboot too
[17:07] <k1l> ponyrider: rufus works well with ubuntu isos. unetbootin is known for issues
[17:07] <mmanso> EriC^^: what makes me mad is that clonezilla iso works directly...
[17:07] <k1l> mmanso: can you check the iso with md5sum?
[17:07] <EriC^^> mmanso: does the usb have a fat32 partition with an efi dir
[17:07] <EriC^^> ?
[17:07] <k1l> !md5sum | mmanso
[17:08] <Jay__> @pavlos j@j-Satellite-L300:~$ PYTHONPATH PYTHONPATH: command not found j@j-Satellite-L300:~$
[17:08] <mmanso> ubottu: after trying all the isos I've tryed, I don't beliave it's a md5 issue...
[17:08] <Jay__> @pavlos I installed Python 5 in an attempt to cure things but I think 3.5 is there
[17:08] <pavlos> Jay__, "echo $PYTHONPATH" gave you command not found?
[17:09] <mmanso> EriC^^:  Rufus created the partition table on the PEN drive... I've tryed all the three options in there.
[17:09] <acheron-a> mmanso: can you install ubuntu okay?
[17:09] <ponyrider> 3.5 was bumped to 3.6 in some distros
[17:09] <nacc> Jay__: "python 5" is not a thing
[17:09] <pavlos> Jay__, https://techglimpse.com/error-executing-python3-5-command-solution/
[17:09] <Jay__> @ pavlos oh I need to put the word "echo in?"
[17:10] <nacc> Jay__: and installing a new version of python when you don't know exactly what you're doing is a recipe for disaster
[17:10] <mmanso> acheron-a: I can't make the machine to recognize the PEN as bootable... I can only do that when I install clonezilla on the PEN... with that, it works to book Clonezilla. Nothing more.
[17:10] <sneex> are this channels irc logs searchable?
[17:10] <pavlos> Jay__, yes, this is a terminal command to echo (print) the value of an env variable
[17:11] <al2o3-cr> Jay__: printenv PYTHONPATH
[17:12] <pavlos> Jay__, other commands, "which python" and "which python3.5"
[17:12] <ponyrider> mantise: UEFI in bios settings?
[17:13] <ponyrider> Jay__: ls -la /usr/bin/python
[17:13] <ponyrider> mmanso: ^^
[17:14] <mmanso> ponyrider: this BIOS works with UEFI only...
[17:14] <mmanso> ponyrider: no other option
[17:14] <Jay__> @everyone helping..ls -la /usr/bin/python lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun  4  2016 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7
[17:15] <doebi> i renamed the default directories in $HOME and now the nautilus sidebar doesn't work anymore. can i somehow configure the shortcuts in the sidebar?
[17:15] <frozenrouter> I am having a strange issue with using three monitors in nvidia mode on an optimus laptop (nvidia 367.57) where if three monitors are selected as output(two works fine), the system will work for a minute or two, then completely lock up(switching to a tty does not work, and no response to mouse/keyboard). Can anyone help me find a solution?
[17:15] <differentpho> http://imgcash.co/oon4hVr
[17:16] <Jay__> @pavlos I get $ which python 3.5 /usr/bin/python
[17:17] <pavlos> Jay__, so you dont have python3.5, just python2.7
[17:17] <ponyrider> no his /usr/bin/python symlinked to 2.7
[17:17] <nacc> Jay__: pavlos: please use a pastebin. `which python3.5` shoudl not return /usr/bin/python
[17:17] <Jay__> I thought I had a higher version? I downloaded something earlier. How do I get to the right version?
[17:17] <ponyrider> Jay__: no space --
[17:17] <ppf> Jay__: there's an extra space in there ...
[17:18] <nacc> Jay__: you don't want python to be anything other than python2.7
[17:18] <nacc> Jay__: python3 is how you invoke python 3.x
[17:18] <ponyrider> could try symlinking to 3.5 just to test...
[17:18] <nacc> ponyrider: no.
[17:18] <Jay__> @Ok so how do I uninstall and find the right python? I am so lost lol
[17:18] <nacc> ponyrider: that is awful advice
[17:18] <ponyrider> ok dont kill me
[17:19] <nacc> Jay__: what did you do to 'download something earlier'?
[17:19] <Jay__> I thought that there were just some missing packages that would make the word processors work
[17:19] <ponyrider> yeah some pip2 module..
[17:19] <Jay__> I downloaded what I thought was python 5
[17:19] <nacc> Jay__: that is not a thing, so what did you actually download?
[17:19] <Jay__> Is there a command to unload whatever I did?
[17:20] <nacc> Jay__: don't be vague, be precise and exact with URLs, etc
[17:20] <Jay__> I don't know!
[17:20] <nacc> Jay__: you don't know what you downloaded?
[17:20] <frozenrouter> Jay__, did you use apt to install python?
[17:20] <nacc> Jay__: how do you download something and not know how you did it?
[17:20] <Jay__> It was I thought, the latest Python...please be patient this is all a new world to me
[17:20] <Jay__> yes I think so
[17:21] <frozenrouter> ok, and you wanted python 3.5?
[17:21] <Jay__> I had the problem before I installed anything ..yes 3.5 I think
[17:21] <LordLupus> Hello guys!
[17:21] <LordLupus> Are you here?
[17:21] <LordLupus> Do you see my messages?
[17:21] <ponyrider> Jay__: try reinstall libreoffice?
[17:22] <frozenrouter> ok, may I first suggest showing the output of 'dpkg -l | grep python"
[17:22] <LordLupus> I need your help, please!
[17:22] <ppf> !ask
[17:22] <Jay__> I did reinstall Libre Office but it didn't work
[17:22] <pavlos> Jay__, maybe re-install python3
[17:22] <nacc> frozenrouter: if they also downloaded a python and installed it, it may not show up there, unfortunately
[17:22] <LordLupus> Who can help me with a FTP Server.
[17:22] <LordLupus> I want to connect to it through the external IP Address.
[17:22] <LordLupus> But I can't.
[17:22] <LordLupus> Someone??
[17:22] <frozenrouter> nacc, yes, but they did say that they used apt
[17:22] <pavlos> LordLupus, is there a firewall
[17:22] <frozenrouter> which is why I ask
[17:22] <LordLupus> No.
[17:23] <ponyrider> LordLupus: you want to give an external ip access to your copmuter
[17:23] <LordLupus> sudo ufw status.
[17:23] <V1P3R_LeUnG> Hey guys ^^ I have issues with my i3 (ubuntu 16.10) notification notify-osd
[17:23] <nacc> frozenrouter: i understand, they did two things, it sounds like
[17:23] <frozenrouter> ah
[17:23] <pavlos> LordLupus, is there a router in between ?
[17:23] <LordLupus> Yes.
[17:23] <nacc> frozenrouter: meaning you need the complete information from them to actually fix it, probably
[17:23] <LordLupus> Port forwarding.
[17:23] <ponyrider> LordLupus: you would need port forwarding too
[17:23] <LordLupus> I know.
[17:23] <LordLupus> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:23] <LordLupus> lupus
[17:23] <LordLupus> lupus12345
[17:23] <Jay__> $ which python 3.5 /usr/bin/python
[17:23] <frozenrouter> ok, I appear to have missed part of the background here
[17:23] <nacc> Jay__: *no* space : `which python3.5`
[17:23] <ponyrider> oh jeez
[17:23] <nacc> !paste | LordLupus
[17:24] <ponyrider> ye just post his ip username and pass?
[17:24] <ponyrider> seriously? lol
[17:24] <sneex> Hey all; I am getting an error, and I have no idea why:  'Refusing to read archive contents from terminal (missing -f option?)' -- I did give -f in two places
[17:24] <ponyrider> he did that!
[17:24] <sneex> this the command used:  tar cpf - ~/ | ssh -24to StrictHostKeyChecking=no -tY24<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"tar xpf - -C ~/homeOfSysAdmin"
[17:25] <LordLupus> Help me please :(. I gave you the dates.
[17:25] <Jay__> j@j-Satellite-L300:~$ which python3.5 /usr/bin/python3.5
[17:26] <nacc> sneex: why are you telling tar to archive '-' ?
[17:27] <nacc> Jay__: did you ever provided `echo $PYTHONPATH` ?
[17:28] <ponyrider> nacc: i dont think he set $PYTHONPATH
[17:29] <nacc> ponyrider: ok, I wasn't sure -- and given they don't know what they did when they installed 'python 5', i'm not ruling any serious brokenness out
[17:29] <Munger> Hi. Anyone know where I should configure dhclient to use the -i switch to send it's DUID to the DHCP server?
[17:29] <pavlos> ponyrider, nacc I dont have any PYTHON env, I have both 2.7 and 3.5 and Libreoffice works fine
[17:29] <nacc> pavlos: agreed, it's something else going on
[17:29] <ponyrider> nacc: lol
[17:30] <LordLupus> <IP_ADDRESS>, lupus, lupus12345, 22. Configure a FTP Server on my external IP Address please :|. I'll forward the port 21 right now.
[17:30] <sneex> @nacc Im just trying to archive across my  servers -- local/main system is out of space
[17:30] <ponyrider> LordLupus: stop doing that!!
[17:30] <LordLupus> What I did? I need help.
[17:31] <nacc> sneex: sure, but your command makes no sense
[17:31] <pavlos> LordLupus, port 21
[17:31] <nacc> sneex: tar -cpf is 'create', 'preserve' and write to this file
[17:31] <ponyrider> LordLupus: is it just me, or she LordLupus not post his external ip, username/pass on irc?
[17:32] <pavlos> ponyrider, correct
[17:32] <LordLupus> And what's wrong.
[17:32] <LordLupus> That's an Ubuntu Server in VirtualBox.
[17:32] <LordLupus> Wow!
[17:32] <ponyrider> LordLupus: thats twice now!
[17:32] <sneex> @nacc  very likely -- it was a command I used years ago on debian and I cannot remember the correct syntax; I willhave to play with it some more
[17:33] <pavlos> seems we lost Jay__
[17:34] <zykotick9> LordLupus: note, FTP is a port nightmare.  you need more then just 21 forwarded!  look into the passive/active ports for ftp.  OR better yet, DON'T use FTP.  ftpmustdie
[17:34] <ponyrider> LordLupus: you should change the port number for sure
[17:34] <nacc> sneex: tar can write directly to a remote, btw
[17:34] <LordLupus> Oh I know.
[17:35] <LordLupus> But I have to put the passive ports and the passive address?
[17:35] <nacc> sneex: `man tar` , search down to 'Device selection and switching'
[17:35] <LordLupus> Or something like that?
[17:35] <pavlos> LordLupus, can you ping that ip?
[17:35] <frozenrouter> LordLupus, since I have little knowledge of ftp, and there appears to be a high learning curve to proper configuration, may I suggest an alternative?
[17:35] <LordLupus> That's my IP.
[17:35] <sneex> @nacc - hmm, Ive only used sftp with a local transfer and so Im not sure how to get tar to 'ssh' for me
[17:35] <LordLupus> I can ping it..
[17:36] <LordLupus> You are free to connect to my server.
[17:36] <ponyrider> ssh.. maybe too slow?
[17:36] <zykotick9> LordLupus: the passive ports are usually a range (one for each transfere is required i believe) and yes they all need to be forwarded to the same box.
[17:36] <LordLupus> I gave you the dates.
[17:36] <LordLupus> I know, a range.
[17:36] <LordLupus> But why I need the passive ports?
[17:36] <nacc> sneex: did you read the manpage?
[17:36]  * sneex looking now
[17:36] <LordLupus> Yes..
[17:36] <frozenrouter> do you need ftp specifically LordLupus, or just to be able to transfer files?
[17:37] <ponyrider> frozenrouter: suggest
[17:37] <shines> quit
[17:38] <LordLupus> I just want to connect to my FTP Server through the external IP Address (<IP_ADDRESS>). Actually I can connect to it using the internal IP Address (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[17:38] <ponyrider> oh jesus!!
[17:38] <frozenrouter> if you have a gnu/linux system on the other end, use the scp command included with most ssh software
[17:38] <LordLupus> Sorry for my bad english.
[17:38] <cuddylier> How would I configure a KVM bridge to use IPs received from a GRE tunnel?
[17:39] <ponyrider> LordLupus: i like frozenrouter's idea, but when you make a rsa key make its alot bit number otherwise transfers will be too slow
[17:39] <ponyrider> LordLupus: can you STOP posting your ip addresses!
[17:40] <LordLupus> Well, I can't configure it. I entered here cause of that.
[17:40] <LordLupus> If you'll configure it for me I'll bless you!