[00:00] <escott> mody, run the following command in terminal ps aux | egrep "metacity|compiz" what does it say?
[00:00] <us> escott: Dec 13 09:55:15 us-GT5028 kernel: [   14.458231] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  280.13  Wed Jul 27 16:53:56 PDT 2011
[00:00] <DaZ> hum
[00:00] <mody> gives >
[00:00] <mody> sokak I already have compiz config settings manager
[00:01] <sokak> When my compiz goes haywire, i shut it down and reload it, i made a couple of scripts
[00:01] <escott> mody, after you typed `ps aux | egrep "metacity|compiz"[ENTER]` it should output something
[00:02] <mody> compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[00:02] <mody> this you mean?
[00:02] <escott> mody, you aren't typing the command correctly
[00:03] <mody> mody      1503  0.9  0.3<PHONE_NUMBER>2 ?        Sl   01:26   0:21 metacity
[00:03] <mody> mody     17104  0.0  0.0   4444   800 pts/0    S+   02:03   0:00 egrep --color=auto metacity|compiz
[00:03] <sokak> Try 'metacity --replace & killall compiz compiz.real' and after 'compiz --replace'
[00:04] <mody> it says that
[00:04] <popsch> when I mount a smb-share with nautilus, can I also open a terminal window in the mounted directory?
[00:04] <escott> mody, you have no shadows because metacity is running. metacity is probably running because something is wrong with your graphics drivers
[00:04] <mody> sokak , it didnt do it
[00:04] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> What is the best Ubuntu Linux?
[00:05] <qbert_> I need some server monitoring tools, telling me CPU usage, memory usage, network usage etc, any suggestions ?
[00:05] <andygraybeal> so in ubuntu 11.10; how do i get to the 'applications' menu?
[00:05] <qbert_> something dummy proof
[00:05] <andygraybeal> qbert_, nagios is probably what your after; maybe opennms
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> !best| Pengu1n_Phr0zen
[00:05] <andygraybeal> qbert_, oh dummy proof,, nevemrind :)
[00:05] <sokak> escott, when i had issues, someone hinted me to install fusion icon, and that worked flawlessly to set compiz instead of metacity, and poke all the stuff
[00:06] <qbert_> andygraybeal, hit the windows key, go to more apps, then see all for the applications
[00:06] <qbert_> andygraybeal, hehe kk
[00:06] <andygraybeal> rock thakns qbert_
[00:06] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> ubottu, Keep your pannies on, I was just trolling for the heck of it.
[00:07] <andygraybeal> qbert_, aw bro, i ain't picking it up that fast. i hit
[00:07] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> ubottu, I've done more man hours on Ubuntu than you did potty training.
[00:08] <andygraybeal> 'windows key' go to 'more apps' and then 'see more' but there no applicaiotn menu like in old gnome.. i feel like a geezer
[00:08] <sokak> *points* haaa
[00:08] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> ubottu, Correction, You are a butt.
[00:08] <Derpadong> Lol butt
[00:08] <qbert_> andygraybeal, ahh yeah - I'm not sure if they have something the same, are you looking for a specific app ?
[00:09] <andygraybeal> yea... wtf am i loking for -- make a usb boot disk from ubuntu image
[00:09] <escott> andygraybeal, just start typing keywords for whatever application you want
[00:09] <andygraybeal> i can't remember the app!
[00:09] <andygraybeal> i just know it's in the menu somehwer e:(
[00:09] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> andygraybeal, I got the perfect solution for you.
[00:09] <sokak> andygraybeal, ubnetbootin can be wrong
[00:09] <escott> andygraybeal, what does it do?
[00:09] <sokak> cant*
[00:09] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> Ok
[00:09] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> There you go.
[00:09] <andygraybeal> what what what?
[00:10] <andygraybeal> unetbootin, i will never remmb
[00:10] <escott> andygraybeal, do you mean the startup disk creator
[00:10] <andygraybeal> escott, totally!!
[00:10] <andygraybeal> crap he left
[00:10] <mody> ok so there was a driver for graphic I installed
[00:11] <mody> and rebooted
[00:11] <mody> now its fine
[00:11] <sokak> i use unetbootin because cant remember properly if the startup disk creator can make a persistent casper as well
[00:11] <mody> whats happening is
[00:11] <mody> when I fore shutdown the driver is being broke
[00:11] <mody> then i have reinstall
[00:11] <sokak> which card you have and which driver you used?
[00:11] <mody> I have a sony vaio VPCEE
[00:12] <mody> 4 gb ram , AMD 64bit
[00:12] <mody> the driver that fixed it called:
[00:12] <sokak> lol which gpu
[00:12] <mody> ATI/AMD Proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[00:13] <sokak> *faints*
[00:13] <sokak> mody, i cant help you with an ati, i would not touch them neither with a stick under ubuntu
[00:13] <Derpadong> Mody, worst card ever
[00:14] <user82> for me the opensource ati drivers always worked better. not very well performing though ...
[00:14] <andygraybeal> okay, i'm not finding this boot disk creator application
[00:14] <sokak> Derpadong, i cant totally agree, the drivers just suck
[00:14] <mody> what I can do?
[00:14] <Derpadong> The card + drivers suck tbh
[00:14] <popsch> When I mount a remote drive (samba share), then nautilus shows me the contents, but it isn't mounted in ~/.gvfs. How come?
[00:15] <sokak> mody, prolly you can google if someone had a tweak making it work better installing ubuntu on that model of vaio
[00:15] <andygraybeal> aaah.... 'windows key' -> 'more apps' ->
[00:16] <andygraybeal> aaah.... 'windows key' -> 'more apps' -> 'filter results' !!!!
[00:16] <sokak> u got it andygraybeal ;)
[00:16] <andygraybeal> yay
[00:16] <andygraybeal> sorry absuloute retard here
[00:16] <Knuxgen> the launcher is not very friendly
[00:17] <sokak> andygraybeal, i would be probably even worst, thats why im sticking on maverick, i dont feel unity/gnome3 ready
[00:17] <Derpadong> Is unity going to not suck soon?
[00:17] <andygraybeal> sokak, rock!   i totally love it!! but i odn't know how to use it!!!
[00:17] <sokak> Derpadong, again, its not a matter of totally sucking, but a matter of getting used to
[00:18] <sokak> thats why instead of complaining, ill just wait it to mature before diving in
[00:18] <Derpadong> Yeah
[00:18] <sokak> (and lurk whats going on)
[00:18] <Derpadong> I went to xfce for now lol
[00:18] <sokak> xfce cant be wrong ;)
[00:19] <Nach0z> xfce is good stuff, but if it dont work for you, LXDE brah.
[00:19] <Derpadong> I'm trying to get my fav tiling window manager installed
[00:19] <andygraybeal> xfce, lxde for the wins  even though i'm in love wth unities
[00:19] <Derpadong> LXDE is meh. Never liked it
[00:19] <sokak> Nach0z, this is the point, we can flavour it as we like (until you are lazy as me and just idle waiting)
[00:19] <Nach0z> unities is too ram-heavy for me. I like lightweight
[00:19] <Derpadong> Sokak, I feel your pain lol
[00:20] <Nach0z> that being said, I don't like the lubuntu-desktop install
[00:20] <Nach0z> I gotta use straight LXDE.
[00:20] <Derpadong> Lol
[00:20] <sokak> Im swimming in ram - i just eat too much of it virtualizing :3
[00:20] <Nach0z> I have tons of ram. I just like to be ... judicious with my ram usage. force of habit.
[00:20] <Derpadong> I need to change my ubuntu from unity to xfce
[00:21] <MahaVishnu> Derpadong$ if you google there is a psychocats link that tells you exactly how
[00:21] <sokak> i agree with both - but im insanely happy from when i switched to ubuntu - finally i can deliver desktop help amongst multiple oses *all in the same moment*
[00:22] <Pr0pe110rHead> Can someone assist with undeleting (preferably) or reinstalling some missing system directories and who knows what else... am I better off running extundelete or just imaging the drive and reinstalling the OS to the copy?
[00:23] <sokak> Pr0pe110rHead, doing from scratch will lead surely to less pain
[00:23] <skegeek> tify 89chevygeek11
[00:24] <b0ef> I have a 10.04 system and shouldn't pressing ESC on boot bring me to the grub menu?. Do I actually have to change grub boot files to enable this?
[00:24] <MahaVishnu> b0ef$ thought it was shift then press e to edit the line you want to boot
[00:24] <b0ef> MahaVishnu: ?, I should hold down shift while booting to bring up the grub menu?
[00:25] <Pr0pe110rHead> sokak: after I image the drive can you help me reinstall the OS to the copy?
[00:25] <MahaVishnu> I think so.
[00:25] <skegeek> When I boot-up the GRUB screen displays too far to the left, but splash and desktop are aligned correctly. Where should I begin for fixing this?
[00:26] <sokak> Pr0pe110rHead, i meant it as its better to reinstall from scratch rather than scavenging inbetween image files and undeleting. Will be less work, straighter, faster.
[00:26] <Pr0pe110rHead> sokak: only trouble is, will  it retain the users, home directories, etc?
[00:27] <Pr0pe110rHead> does extundelete work if you haven't used the system since files were lost?
[00:27] <sokak> Pr0pe110rHead, of course not if you havent put the home folder in a separate partition. Its the best choice by design.
[00:28] <b0ef> MahaVishnu: you're right;)
[00:28] <b0ef> MahaVishnu: thanks..
[00:28] <user82> skegeek, grub customizer can change the resolution of the grub menu. maybe it "accidently" fixes the problem? ( https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer )
[00:29] <MahaVishnu> b0ef$ np
[00:29] <jimisrvrox2> hey guys quick question is there any way that I can add space to my partition when I have free space but its not contiguous? IE: ntfs partition, free space, linux, linux, linux partitions..any way to add it?
[00:30] <sokak> Pr0pe110rHead, the first time i messed like that, i backed up the home folders, reinstalled from scratch, making a separate home drive (you may as well just use a partition) then i just recreated users in theiur order, and put back home folders from a live boot.
[00:30] <MahaVishnu> jimisrvrox2$ idk. but you could resize the partition with the freespace then move the freespace to the linux partition by resizing it. but you need live-cd and if anything goes wrong during this you will lose data.
[00:30] <user82> jimisrvrox2, not sure about what you want. but in worst case you can still create a partition that mounts somewhere into your existing filesystem
[00:30] <sokak> jimisrvrox2, i wouldnt mess too much wit non contiguous partitios :3 Considered moving to a new and better partitioned drive?
[00:31] <Pr0pe110rHead> sokak: I think the home folders are on another drive.  However, I did not setup this box nor was I responsible for the loss of files.  I'm just the janitor, as it were.
[00:31] <Octopus> Hi all!!!
[00:32] <Octopus> When Xubuntu will run as fast as Lubuntu?
[00:32] <rootjedi> Any one here?
[00:32] <Octopus> When Xubuntu will run as fast as Lubuntu?
[00:32] <Octopus> Admins moders?
[00:32] <Octopus> When Xubuntu will run as fast as Lubuntu?
[00:32] <sokak> Pr0pe110rHead, i see your point. Well, reinstalling from scratch and, during the setup, picking the manual partitioning and replugging the home drive where it belongs, should do the trick (ofc, users have to be recreated as well) the only thing thats odd is, what caused important system folders to be mutilated?
[00:32] <Octopus> Admins moders?
[00:33] <Pr0pe110rHead> sokak: ideally, I would like to undelete the missing directories (/sbin, etc) if indeed they are still there (drive tests pass).  then, I can retain the configuration, settings, data, etc.
[00:33] <us> any help with intermittent screen flicker on 11.10?
[00:34] <Octopus> Why this chat, if I can not get answers to simple questions?
[00:34] <Mattheas> Octopus: Your question is pretty broad.
[00:34] <sokak> Pr0pe110rHead, honestly i never tried single files restores, until now, i always worked just with testdisk (and i love it - right now im backupping 4 tb of stuff i recovered with it) I have no idea then how to proceed in your case
[00:34] <Octopus> Mattheas no
[00:35] <Octopus> there is very simple
[00:35] <rstreeter> I am unable to connect to my wireless I am using 11.10. I have a wireless button and it is not recognized
[00:35] <jimisrvrox2> reason being is im running out of space on my home partition and its jacking up all kinds of stuff but whats funny is if I reboot instead of having 150kb or so left I have like 37mb left and im like wtf
[00:35] <sokak> Octopus, the answer is, when you will stop making broad questions, and focus on finding tutorials on how to optimize it.
[00:35] <MahaVishnu> rstreeter$ try sudo rfkill list
[00:36] <Pr0pe110rHead> sokak:  I've used testdisk, but I don't think it will undelete to the ext3 partition, I think it undeletes to another drive, right?  So, I guess I can complete the image I just started and undelete from the afflicted drive to the copy.  Or, I was thinking extundelete or somesuch.
[00:36] <Mattheas> Octopus: If you say so
[00:36] <Octopus> Mattheas,I think, Canonical should cease to fund Xubuntu and invest in Lubuntu.
[00:36] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> What's Lubuntu ?
[00:36]  * Pengu1n_Phr0zen plays ignorant
[00:37] <Mattheas> Octopus: That's an opinion.
[00:37] <Stepnjump> hi guys, could some one tell me if this is a valid repository please? http://ppa.launchpad.net/THE_PPA/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[00:37] <Octopus> I think Xubuntu has lost its relevance.
[00:37] <MahaVishnu> Octopus$ I disagree and I ask this, what has this got to do with ubuntu support
[00:37] <Pr0pe110rHead> does Linux have a repair option akin to Windows?
[00:37] <nardev> why does    lsof -i:80 | wc     always shows more open/active files than     ps aux | grepa apache | wc   ?
[00:38] <Octopus> Mattheas, This is reality.
[00:38] <Octopus> !
[00:38] <sokak> Pr0pe110rHead, this is the point, i've newer worked in such ways - i always recovered user files, not system files. Btw, i think any undelete application will work from one damaged filesystem to another - undelete in the same place wont work by design
[00:38] <Octopus> Xubuntu does not work faster than Ubuntu with Gnome 2.
[00:38] <Octopus> But Lubuntu fastest and more. And it uses less resources.
[00:38] <flanagan_> Pengu1n_Phr0zen, its an lighter ubuntu, old god workin gon old hardware
[00:38] <Octopus> Xubuntu does not work faster than Ubuntu with Gnome 2.
[00:38] <Octopus> But Lubuntu fastest and more. And it uses less resources.
[00:38] <cab938_home> Is there a way to find a list of all of the events that upstart jobs can be started on?
[00:38] <cab938_home> e.g. startup, runlevel, etc.
[00:38] <arunce> Octopus: how can you say that?
[00:39] <TheDuck> I have a hardware issue, it's not exactly related to Ubuntu, but it's a very problematic issue for my laptop. When I boot it up, the CPU fan makes a banging sound for about 2 seconds then functions correctly. About 20 minutes ago, the fan stopped working temporarily until I cleaned it a bit, but now it just does the banging for a moment, then functioning correctly. If someone here could help or direct me to a channel for hardware advice
[00:39] <TheDuck>  that would be incredibly helpful.
[00:39] <Octopus> I currently use and have used both before distribution.
[00:40] <SoloMenTay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/769587/  That command will properly mount a windows share.  How do I put that in a FSTAB without putting my username and password where everyone can see it?
[00:40] <us> any help with screen flicker on 11.10? i've checked the forums and can't seem to figure it out. Quite the beginner.
[00:40] <Octopus> I currently use and have used both before distribution.
[00:40] <sokak> TheDuck, a can of compressed air, machine oil, or a brand new fan will fix it.
[00:40] <cab938_home> TheDuck, when using oil, you want to remove the sticker that covers the bearing, usually in the middle of the fan
[00:40] <cab938_home> and add a drop of oil there
[00:41] <cab938_home> replacing the fan is usually the best long term solution
[00:41] <sokak> cab938_home, thank you for the fix ;)
[00:41] <cab938_home> sokak, Just thought oil everywhere might not be as intended :)
[00:41] <TheDuck> Sokak There's a problem with all three. I've done the compressed air, I don't know where I would buy machine oil or how to apply it to the bearings, and I can't afford to buy a new fan. I also can't find out how to open the damn thing. I've taken every screw out and the components that aren't fixed to the board.
[00:41] <Octopus> XFCE has long been weak for DE machines, and Canonical is positioning this as a distribution is "for slower machines."
[00:42] <TheDuck> Disregard the not knowing how to put it on.  Search your puter brand + dismantling
[00:42] <Mariorocksyourli> I have a question.
[00:42] <Octopus> bad translate prog sorry
[00:42] <sokak> TheDuck, there you will find also useful kinds of visual tutorials for fan fixing and stuff
[00:42] <szal> !ask | Mariorocksyourli
[00:43] <Octopus> XFCE is now not suitable for older machines.
[00:43] <TheDuck> Crap. I can't get youtube working on this system. It's about 13 years old now.
[00:43] <Mariorocksyourli> Is it possible to put the screen resolution on ubuntu at 1366 x 768
[00:43] <MahaVishnu> Mariorocksyourli$ yes it is.
[00:43] <sokak> TheDuck, i feel you :* I hope you have at least a smartphone :*
[00:43] <Mariorocksyourli> thank you! :)
[00:43] <MahaVishnu> Mariorocksyourli$ in a terminal run cvt 1366 x 758
[00:44] <MahaVishnu> err
[00:44] <MahaVishnu> 1366 768
[00:44] <Octopus> No longer suitable. Xubuntu just slows down for them. A Lubuntu works fine and fast. Then what is the meaning of the sponsor Xubuntu?
[00:44] <TheDuck> I do not. Hell I don't even have the new update for my Xblow to get youtube working on it.
[00:44] <Mariorocksyourli> i might be installing ubuntu on my other computer that is a old compaq 2003 desktop pc.. windows xp is having errors with disk defragment. xD
[00:44] <szal> TheDuck: a new CPU fan is perhaps âŽ10, what's too expensive about that?  chances are that for that money you'll even get a shiny new box w/ fan _and_ heatsink
[00:45] <Octopus> Why are you all silent?
[00:45] <cab938_home> a 13 year old laptop, eh?
[00:45] <cab938_home> yikes
[00:45] <TheDuck> cab938_home, This system is 13.
[00:45] <Octopus> What is your opinion?
[00:45] <TheDuck> My laptop is a year old.
[00:45] <szal> oh, a laptop?  that makes matters more complicated
[00:45] <szal> if it's a desktop computer, that's quite easy
[00:45] <sokak> Then tube on your laptop xD
[00:45] <cab938_home> I guess I missed it, I thought you were taking apart a laptop, if it's a desktop then it certainly should come apart with screws
[00:45] <TheDuck> And it's not cheap for me, Szal. I'm unemployed until I get my license.
[00:46] <Octopus> Where can I find chat of Canonical?
[00:46] <Octopus> Where can I find chat of Canonical?
[00:46] <szal> !repeat | Octopus
[00:46] <cab938_home> but if its 13 year old desktop, you might need to give it some elbow grease
[00:46] <sokak> TheDuck, i feel you, jobless since February
[00:46] <szal> Octopus: and define 'chat of Canonical'
[00:46] <arunce> Octopus: I have xfce on new machines... can't tell much about older ones.
[00:46] <TheDuck> cab938_home, This system I'm on right now, on my IRC, is completely fine. My laptop is the one that's currently a big semi-functional brick.
[00:47] <cab938_home> ah, gotcha
[00:47] <szal> Octopus: and what do you mean by "what is the meaning of the sponsor Xubuntu"?
[00:47] <Octopus> arunce,on the new machines can you use KDE
[00:48] <TheDuck> (Despite being slower than a slug going backward on a turtle's back while the turtle wades through cold molasses, this system is pretty stable)
[00:48] <MahaVishnu> Octopus$ #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:49] <Octopus> szal,I want to Canonical has poured money into Lubuntu and completed it, and LXDE.
[00:49] <szal> Octopus: you want to what?
[00:49] <Octopus> Completed Developing
[00:49] <Octopus> Completed Developing
[00:49] <Dj_FlyBy> !repeat | Octopus
[00:50] <lokem> hi folks.  just upgraded 11.10 yesterday.  but after reboot, motion doesn't seem to work.  found the error message Error selecting input 0 VIDIOC_S_INPUT: Device or resource busy in syslog.  any ideas?  it was working perfectly before this.
[00:50] <szal> Octopus: start making sense or stop it altogether
[00:50] <cab938_home> heh
[00:50] <cab938_home> :)
[00:51] <Octopus> szal, Xubuntu has lost its relevance.
[00:52] <Octopus> It is no longer suitable for slower computers. What is not clear? Xubuntu is no longer needed.
[00:52] <szal> Octopus: seeing that flocks of Gnome 2 lovers are switching over to XFCE, I don't think Xubuntu will become irrelevant anytime soon
[00:52] <cab938_home> Octopus, I think the request was to make your statements clear, your last statement on "I want to Canonical" didn't make ant sense.
[00:52] <MahaVishnu> I wanna banana
[00:53] <szal> Octopus: other than that, this is really not a support issue -> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or leave it
[00:54] <Octopus> u just stu troll stfu please
[00:54] <arunce> I'm a happy xubuntu user... and not going back to KDE, at least for now
[00:54] <Octopus> ok?
[00:54] <Octopus> ok thx
[00:54] <DaZ> we need to shut down xubuntu, so all the gnome users will run to mint
[00:54] <DaZ> \o/
[00:54] <maum> can I install moonlight? I installed moonlight but I cannot see the movie in http://tv.sarang.org/frameindex.asp?url_flag=/menu04/m4_01.asp?sflag=suntot
[00:55] <szal> maum: Moonlight is an alibi project; last time I tried it it didn't work either
[00:55] <Octopus> Daz who WE?
[00:55] <DaZ> oh, you know
[00:55] <Octopus> Canonical
[00:55] <DaZ> _we_
[00:55] <Octopus> yes
[00:55] <maum> szal: so cann't I see the movie in http://tv.sarang.org/frameindex.asp?url_flag=/menu04/m4_01.asp?sflag=suntot??
[00:55] <szal> Octopus: again, -offtopic or stfukthxbye
[00:56] <DaZ> moonlight worked a few times for me
[00:56] <DaZ> but this website seems pretty korean, to me
[00:57] <DaZ> so i can't help you :x
[00:57] <Octopus> stfu troll you do not understand? me to take action?
[00:57] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> Who's the troll?
[00:57] <Maquiavelo> Hi, so quick question, have intrepid 8.10. I'm inserting a microsd/sd adapter. syslog finds it, scans it, whatever, and then disconnects it.
[00:57] <Maquiavelo> What could it be?
[00:57] <szal> Octopus: obviously YOU don't understand..  what you're trying to talk about is NOT a support issue
[00:57] <Maquiavelo> I get an USB 1-8: Disconnected
[00:58] <Maquiavelo> But I didn't disconnect it, and its still inside.
[00:58] <szal> Maquiavelo: 8.10 is DEAD and UNSUPPORTED
[00:58] <Maquiavelo> I know... but I can't ask the question ?
[00:58] <szal> Maquiavelo: you can, but don't expect any help
[00:58] <Maquiavelo> Or is it like "Don't talk about it, we kiled that kid"
[00:58] <Maquiavelo> killed*
[00:58] <szal> !intrepid
[00:59] <Maquiavelo> *sigh*
[00:59] <escott> Maquiavelo, there is obviously something wrong with that device or its driver. you should upgrade your kernel. guess what there are new releases for you :-P
[00:59] <Maquiavelo> Its the only one I have at hand anyways.
[00:59] <DaZ> Maquiavelo: we didn't kill anyone
[00:59] <Maquiavelo> escott, I know, it's the only one I Have at hand though =/
[00:59] <chilli0> Hey guys, can anyone assit me in setting up a pptpd server? I have followed a tutorial and whenever i try connecting from my windows box I get 619 error.
[00:59] <Octopus> bb all!
[01:00] <DaZ> and ever if we did, we'd never bury him in the forest :x
[01:00] <daftykins> chilli0: logs are your friend
[01:00] <Maquiavelo> DaZ, haha, well, apparently someone did and put some cement shoes and dropped intrepid in the middle of the ocean.
[01:00] <chilli0> daftykins: hey, how can I check them?
[01:00] <Maquiavelo> It's all very 1984. "Intrepid? what's that?"
[01:01] <daftykins> chilli0: look in /var/log on the server side for pptp daemon related files
[01:01] <pingveno> Does anyone here have experience with package modification? I'm trying to recompile pycairo (aka python-cairo) for Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10.
[01:01] <szal> pingveno: any reason to do so?
[01:01] <escott> Maquiavelo, its just hard to imagine what else we can tell you. nobody here knows much about that system. i don't think I was evening running ubuntu in 2008. one hopes your bug is fixed in newer versions
[01:01] <Maquiavelo> "We've always developed for Oneiric"
[01:01] <melkor> has anybody here written a gnome program plugin for gnome 3?
[01:02] <pingveno> szal: Adding Python 2.7 support to 10.*
[01:02] <chilli0> daftykins: I checked in there, but there is no logs..
[01:02] <szal> pingveno: chances are someone has done that already..  searched the PPA section on Launchpad for packages?
[01:02] <TheLegace> hi could someone please help be get gcc installed
[01:02] <TheLegace> on my ubuntu 11.04
[01:02] <daftykins> chilli0: possibly part of kernel logs then. try "dmesg | tail"
[01:02] <milamber> TheLegace: what have you tried?
[01:03] <pingveno> I have a python2.7 package and it sort of compiles for python2.7.
[01:03] <szal> TheLegace: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:03] <TheLegace> well apt-get install gcc build-essential
[01:03] <TheLegace> its missing
[01:03] <szal> TheLegace: no need to specify gcc separately
[01:03] <chilli0> daftykins: that only has stuff about connecting to wireless
[01:03] <milamber> TheLegace: gcc is part of build essential
[01:03] <TheLegace> i know
[01:03] <cano> hola
[01:03] <TheLegace> but its not coming up
[01:03] <milamber> TheLegace: so just: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:03] <szal> TheLegace: then where's the problem?
[01:03] <neko> hi, since i have upgrade ubuntu my ati radeon work very bad
[01:04] <TheLegace> E: Package 'build-essential' has no installation candidate
[01:04] <pingveno> It sticks the python2.6 code in /usr/lib/pymodules and /usr/lib/pyshared. The python2.7 code goes into site-packages
[01:04] <neko> ati radeon 5600 anyone with this issue ?
[01:04] <daftykins> chilli0: no subfolder in /var/log for pptp related?
[01:04] <pingveno> build-essentials?
[01:04] <milamber> TheLegace: with an s
[01:04] <szal> milamber: no, without the s
[01:04] <chilli0> daftykins: nop, i think I may have found them, in syslog
[01:05] <TheLegace> unable to locate package
[01:05] <daftykins> chilli0: ah-har, that one slipepd my mind :D
[01:06] <milamber> TheLegace: what version of ubuntu?
[01:06] <szal> !info build-essential natty
[01:06] <TheLegace> 11.04
[01:07] <mody> guys
[01:07] <mody> This driver is not working... everytime I reboot it needs to be reinstalled
[01:07] <milamber> TheLegace: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:07] <mody> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[01:07] <TheLegace> i had just used the generated one
[01:07] <pingveno> Screw it. I'm making my own package.
[01:07] <user82>  what is the problem with the open-source drivers mody?
[01:08] <mody> it doesnt work
[01:08] <pingveno> I've spent way too long ******* with this package.
[01:08] <mody> the 3d is working properly
[01:08] <user82> is not working properly?
[01:08] <mody> because that driver isn't working on the laptop
[01:08] <mody> Yes
[01:08] <mody> sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt
[01:09] <mody> then I have to install it again
[01:09] <TheLegace> milamber, ya it looked like my sources.list was fucked up, but i dont know why i generate it all the time from the site
[01:09] <user82> thats crappy...i am also frustrated by ATI's drivers.
[01:09] <mody> cause it shows as not active driver
[01:09] <user82> i use the opensoruce ones
[01:09] <TheLegace> there we go i got it
[01:09] <mody> any alternative driver?
[01:09] <TheLegace> meeh i dont need anythign restricted anyway
[01:09] <TheLegace> so ill just leave it
[01:09] <user82> you can still get the newest ATI driver on their website and test if that works: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[01:10] <sokak> silly question - do you have DKMS installed as well?
[01:10] <user82> download the .run file make it executable and start it. if it does not work /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[01:10] <milamber> TheLegace: you getting the package now?
[01:10] <TheLegace> milamber, ya no worries ill try and regenerate the list again
[01:11] <TheLegace> i might have added some extra things
[01:11] <TheLegace> that shouldnt need to be ther
[01:11] <mody> what is DKMS
[01:11] <milamber> TheLegace: you shouldn't have to "regenerate"
[01:11] <user82> mody DKMS is the kernel module that is loaded. but it is usualy installed together with the drivers so no special worries about that
[01:12] <user82> i would try the newest ati driver...or google about your computer model and ubuntu
[01:15] <sokak> i agree with user82
[01:16] <sokak> maybe trying to purge the actual drivers and restart them from scratch?
[01:16] <mody> how do I know if I have 32 bit or 64
[01:16] <mody> ?
[01:16] <sokak> mody, uname-a
[01:16] <escott> mody, grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm
[01:17] <escott> mody, if the grep cpuinfo command comes back with any output you have a "long-mode" aka 64bit processor
[01:18] <sokak> escott, i gave a solution to see whats currently installed instead.
[01:20] <TheLegace> is there a reason the respository is so low
[01:20] <TheLegace> its at 204kb/s when my speed is like 20 times that
[01:21] <sokak> TheLegace, im topping at 62 kbps, and im happy with that :)
[01:21] <TheLegace> ya well when you pay for 16mpbs doesnt make you happy when speed is slow
[01:21] <sokak> TheLegace, your whole internet is so slow?
[01:21] <TheLegace> no speed test is fine
[01:22] <TheLegace> im just a speed whore
[01:22] <sokak> TheLegace, do you pay for repositories?
[01:22] <TheLegace> and i dont want to wait i have work to do
[01:22] <TheLegace> sokak, im not complaining that their slow, i just want to know if theres like yum where i can somehow find the fastest mirror
[01:22] <escott> !mirrors | TheLegace
[01:22] <sokak> :)
[01:22] <TheLegace> because in fedora i can at least switch the mirrors
[01:22] <TheLegace> okie thanks
[01:22] <chilli0> daftykins: Hey, I couldn't seem to get it working still. Do you know any good tutorials?
[01:23] <sokak> i have no clue :) still im happy with it because they use my whole bandwidth ^^
[01:24] <daftykins> chilli0: i'm afraid not, only looked at openvpn once and didn't get far
[01:24] <almoxarife> TheLegace: you can switch mirrors on the installed system
[01:24] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> stpid question, but I'm tired.... what the term cmd to rename a file again?
[01:24] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> stupid**
[01:25] <daftykins> Dj_FlyBy[ms]: mv - "move" it
[01:25] <sokak> :)
[01:25] <daftykins> unless you mean Windows "cmd"
[01:25] <daftykins> then "ren"
[01:25] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> Ubuntu :)
[01:25] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> no winblows in this house... errr, I mean windows
[01:25] <daftykins> easily made typo ^_^
[01:26] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> and I notice I made a mistake in my question... I meant to ask how to rename a directory (I just want to add the . to hide it)
[01:26] <sokak> the answer is again mv u.u
[01:27] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> kk, thx
[01:27] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> ok**
[01:27] <mody> download the .run file
[01:27] <mody> How do I run it?
[01:28] <sokak> chmod+x then ./namefile.run
[01:28] <TheLegace> the only solutions i can find use synaptic and i cant use synaptic
[01:28] <almoxarife> mody: or double click on it
[01:28] <escott> sokak, watch your spaces. mody chmod +x filename.run then ./filename.run
[01:29] <JUNEX> Hello! just installed ubuntu 10.10 in my Samsung n148-dp03 netbook ubuntu already runs but i dont have wireless.
[01:29] <sokak> escott, youre right. I was meaning it without explicitly typing it :)
[01:29] <TheLegace> ok nvm just got synaptic to work
[01:29] <escott> TheLegace, you can directly edit your /etc/apt/sources.lit
[01:29] <mody> Thanks sokak
[01:30] <mody> you were very helpful
[01:30] <sokak> escott has part in this too - follow literally my hints and shell will swear at you
[01:31] <mody> you were very helpful
[01:31] <sokak> mody, everyone here is helpful, im just the last wheel
[01:32] <mody> I know they are
[01:33] <wx9j> micro sd card will only mount ro, nosuid, how do I get it to mount rw ?
[01:33] <sokak> poking fstab?
[01:34] <escott> wx9j, what kind of filesystem is it
[01:35] <BussyBox> hello
[01:35] <BussyBox> mm...
[01:35] <wx9j> escott, it says vfat when I run mount but it says msdos in preferences
[01:36] <chilli0_> Hello, is there anyway I can check if I have any vpns running on my server, i tried to setup openvpn and another one but not sure if they are properly removed and are now interfering with my current vpn.
[01:37] <cbart> Does anybody know why blogpost.com is loopback? Or, is it a virus?
[01:37] <escott> wx9j, vfat is msdos + long filenames
[01:38] <wx9j> escott, this will mount rw on a pad but not in linux
[01:39] <EvilResistance> cbart:  i'm not sure how that's an ubuntu question...
[01:39] <escott> wx9j, things to check. these sd cards might have read-only toggles physically on the device (like the old floppy write protect). also fsck the filesystem, and send us the output of mount and your attempt to remount it rw
[01:39] <roycebarber> Oh beloved Ubuntu netizens, could you save me from a cruel basic fate.
[01:39] <BussyBox> i have one problem, i can't run ubuntu, when i press the ubuntu option on my grub, after wait, it shows a screen similar like this: http://deimproviso.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/initramfs_bug_1.png
[01:39] <wx9j> fdisk
[01:39] <EvilResistance> roycebarber:  just ask your question >.
[01:39] <EvilResistance> >.> *
[01:40] <cbart> EvilResistance: I use ubuntu. I was making sure it wasn't a weird networking ubuntu only implementation
[01:40] <wx9j> escott,  /dev/sdc1 on /media/F84E-1690 type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks)
[01:41] <BussyBox> I searched how can i resolve this problem, and i found the followin form: "use the CD live and do ..." but when i try to use a CD Live i can't, the CD Live rules, but when i press Enter in the option "star or install ubuntu" the screen show me another time the (intramfs) prompt...
[01:41] <roycebarber> Ah good an alive room. :D Okay so I bought PureBasic, the programming environment. I got the 32bit edition. But its bugging out on Ubuntu and on Lubuntu. It runs fine on windows. It opens in Ubuntu, but when I try to load an example chunk of code, the interface flashes in and out like it's struggling to stay stable. This may not be an ubuntu question. T_T'
[01:42] <BussyBox> my english sucks, nobody is understand, true?  Spanish is very close to English.
[01:44] <wx9j> escott, sudo mount -0 remount,rw/media/F84E-1690
[01:44] <wx9j> [sudo] password for jim:
[01:44] <wx9j> mount: invalid option -- '0'
[01:44] <wx9j> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[01:44] <wx9j>        mount -h                 : print this help
[01:44] <wx9j>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[01:44] <wx9j>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[01:44] <FloodBot1> wx9j: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <escott> wx9j, thats an oooh not a zero
[01:45] <BussyBox> not much roycebarber ..
[01:45] <sokak> BussyBox, your english is understandable. Which version of linux you use to boot live?
[01:45] <BussyBox> sokak, i have ubuntu 10.04 on my drive disk, but i used the Ubuntu 7.04 to Live CD
[01:45] <roycebarber> I don't imagine any of you are PureBasic users. The PureBasic support chat is deaaaaad.
[01:46] <TransX|mobile> I would go to the terminal and type rm -r
[01:46] <sokak> BussyBox, try a more recent version to boot live, that may make things easier
[01:47] <BussyBox> sokak, i think this is not the problem, but i will try it
[01:48] <wx9j> escott, it says it cannot mount a device and goes on with a list of options I do not understand
[01:48] <DaZ> wx9j: it's o, not zero
[01:49] <wx9j> Daz , thx, I did correct that error. still  cannot mount in RW
[01:49] <cdavis> How do I remove wireless AP's that I have connected to before in gnome-shell?
[01:50] <DaZ> wx9j: spacebar after rw?
[01:50] <chilli0_> Can anyone help me to setup a vpn server using pptp? or link me to a good new tutorial..
[01:52] <escott> wx9j, please paste the error
[01:52] <wx9j> escott, cannot remount block device /dev/sdc1 read-write, is write-protected
[01:53] <escott> wx9j, it is write protected thats why.
[01:53] <ana_sexy> hay
[01:53] <escott> wx9j, http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_remove_write_protection_from_a_mini_SD_card
[01:53] <sokak> wait, do micro sd have a write protect physical switch as well?
[01:54] <escott> sokak, yes
[01:54] <wx9j> escott, thank you I will check that out, this card is not write protected on my android tablet
[01:54] <escott> sokak, well i dont know about micros, but sd certainly do
[01:54] <sokak> escott, thats cool, im reading it
[01:54] <sokak> learning process never ends
[01:54] <escott> wx9j, i would physically inspect the card to make sure
[01:55] <ana_sexy> so all you are hacker :)
[01:55] <wx9j> the card has an adaptor that has a lock but in both positions it reads the same. I do not think the micro card has a lock.
[01:56] <escott> sokak, wx9j apparently the micro sd adapter is what has the write protection
[01:56] <sokak> thats it then :o
[01:56] <escott> wx9j, it could be a bad adapter
[01:57] <FlintWestWood> hello everyone, Firefox doesnât recognize that my computer is connected to my wifi after I wake from suspend. I have to use system monitor to kill it and then restart it. is there a fix for this issue?
[01:57] <sokak> wx9j, rule of thumb is to not stack adapters usually, the less its in the middle, the betetr they work
[01:57] <wx9j> escott, you are correct, I will check another adapter
[01:57] <sokak> FlintWestWood, tried to uncheck work offline in Firefox menu? O.o
[01:58] <FlintWestWood> It acts like its loading and when i close it with out killing it, and try to open it again, it says that there is another firefox instance already running
[01:58] <wx9j> escott, thanks for your help, I will check with another adapter .
[01:58] <tru3fate> can anyone help i install quicken with wine but got a error 7014
[01:58] <FlintWestWood> and it does not  load pages
[01:59] <sokak> FlintWestWood, check that in firefox profile folder there isnt no lock file (with Firefox closed) then try again. Uncheck work offline first. If it doesnt works, try a new firefox profile.
[02:00] <tresk> HI, in which file I have to enter commands which are always processed before any network card goes online? (also after suspend, hybernate)
[02:00] <seidos> tru3fate: maybe try windows in virtual box, and install quicken that way
[02:01] <Scunizi> According to update manager and Muon (kde's update manager) I have updates pending.  Muon bombs when trying to update, update manager won't in the kde environment and cli says there are no updates.. ??? How do I remedy this?
[02:01] <sokak> tru3fate, no hints on winehq database?
[02:03] <escott> tresk, /etc/pm/*.d for the suspend sleep scripts
[02:04] <travisHAZE> Trying to break my system, advice?
[02:04] <Scunizi> NVM.. all of a sudden cli started working..
[02:04] <travisHAZE> Starting first with killing init, kill init and killall 1 wont work
[02:04] <popsch> is there a simple tool with which I can add artwork to mp3s? Audio tag tool doesn't support it and neither does 'Ex falso'
[02:04] <sokak> travisHAZE, here we *solve* problems...
[02:05] <travisHAZE> sokak, and I'm trying to LEARN
[02:05] <sokak> ;P
[02:05] <seidos> travisHAZE: maybe ask in your loco channel
[02:06] <travisHAZE> My loco channel?
[02:06] <seidos> travisHAZE: http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[02:07] <samba23> hello friends ,i am new to kvm i have installed kvm on ubuntu 10.04 and i have installed windows xp on that but i fail to configure networking
[02:07] <tresk> escott: these are the scripts which are executed before the PC enters teh related state?
[02:07] <escott> tresk, the scripts have a specific format and are run on both freeze and thaw
[02:07] <Maquiavelo> Ok, got a new ubuntu... same issue.
[02:07] <sokak> samba23, try the non ose of virtualbox, does wonders
[02:07] <Maquiavelo> How do you get the version of ubuntu from console?
[02:08] <travisHAZE> Pray
[02:08] <seidos> Maquiavelo: cat /etc/issue used to work
[02:08] <samba23> sokak: sorry i don't understand non ose of virtualbox /i dont know
[02:08] <tresk> escott: ok, sounds good. So the power.d is the one which is executed before "ifconfig wlan up" eg. ?
[02:09] <tresk> escott: I mean at boot time .
[02:09] <sokak> Maquiavelo, also lsb_release -a may work
[02:09] <Maquiavelo> Okey, I got lucid 10.04. Is it supported still ?
[02:10] <lduros> I just built a c++ program from source. Where is it customary to place the executable in Ubuntu so that it is available by all users?
[02:10] <sokak> samba23, im lazy about virtualizaion. Virtualbox non OpenSource Edition comes out of the box with easy usb and network support.
[02:10] <samba23> ok
[02:10] <samba23> virtualbox from oracle
[02:10] <Maquiavelo> Okey, ubuntu version, 10.04 (Lucid). I connect a microsd card, the system sees it, scans it, mounts it, and then disconnects it.
[02:11] <sokak> samba23, all other virtualization systems are cool as well, i've just found that virtualbox is less a pita to configure.
[02:11] <escott> tresk, i dont know what power.d directory does sleep.d seems to have hibernate,suspend,resume,thaw targets
[02:11] <samba23> ok
[02:11] <escott> lduros, /usr/local/bin
[02:11] <lduros> escott: ok, and to store the source /usr/local/src?
[02:12] <sandstorm> hi people
[02:12] <Maquiavelo> Okey, ubuntu version, 10.04 (Lucid). I connect a microsd card, the system sees it, scans it, mounts it, and then disconnects it. I plug the card in Windows and it works fine.
[02:12] <lduros> escott: thanks
[02:12] <tresk> escott: ok, thanks anyway I'll trz it out with the good old try&error method :)
[02:12] <sandstorm> ubuntu rulez :)
[02:12] <zeppo> how can i make ubuntu use the windows time system? (not utc)
[02:12] <celthunder> zeppo: in timezone put local
[02:13] <zeppo> k
[02:13] <seidos> Maquiavelo: i had an issue with my sd card reader, i assume it was a driver issue.  haven't messed with it in awhile though
[02:14] <samba23> as in windows we have RDP ,in ubuntu what is best tool/application
[02:14] <escott> samba23, X11 is already network aware. just ssh -X
[02:15] <TransX|mobile> Just type rm -r in terminal
[02:15] <escott> samba23, if your bandwidth is constrainted there are some more efficient variants like NX (FreeNX) or you can always use vnc
[02:16] <escott> Maquiavelo, anything in kern.log
[02:17] <travisHAZE> Is there a command to kill every running process without shutting the pc down?
[02:18] <DaZ> killall something
[02:18] <evildaemon> Hello.
[02:18] <evildaemon> My first question is: Does using dash versus bash effect the execution speed of programs and utilities?
[02:18] <escott> travisHAZE, yes just shutdown but dont hald the processor
[02:18] <sokak> Thats an interesting question travisHAZE
[02:19] <travisHAZE> It is, isn't it sokak?
[02:19] <escott> evildaemon, not unless the script is a shell script, and you wont find many big time consuming shell scripts
[02:19] <wip> how to easily set a static ip for my wireless network on my ubuntu box (my router set it with dhcp but i want the ip to be always <IP_ADDRESS> for example)?
[02:20] <MahaVishnu> wip$ does your router have address reservation w/ dhcp? like you can set a mac address to always be the same IP. that usually works.
[02:20] <escott> wip, if you want to use dhcp on your router configure the router to give out the same lease to your mac address every time
[02:21] <sokak> travisHAZE, if that is meant to shut other users processes, you may simply change runlevel i guess.
[02:21]  * wip is looking for mac address in router
[02:21] <travisHAZE> Better yet: Is there a good document thats pretty all-inclusive on learning Linux?
[02:21] <travisHAZE> Like A-Z and 0 -<PHONE_NUMBER>85230
[02:22] <travisHAZE> Hell, why start at 0?
[02:22] <MahaVishnu> travisHAZE$ the man pages are pretty good. for command line programs. like man programname
[02:22] <sokak> i have no answer for that travisHAZE but google is a good start to gather the scattered papers.
[02:22] <travisHAZE> the man pages help me learn how to use a command
[02:22] <tresk> escott: fyi, mabe I use the /etc/init.d/network script for normal up and down modes and the /etc/pm scripts for suspend eg.
[02:22] <travisHAZE> It doesn't tell me all of the commands
[02:22] <evildaemon> travisHAZE: all of the commands? compgen -c -f
[02:22] <evildaemon> Or tab twice.
[02:22] <sokak> travisHAZE, if you want useful commands, go to commandlinefu.com. Its handful.
[02:24] <travisHAZE> OK so theres a start: the commands
[02:24] <travisHAZE> Probably the biggest part
[02:24] <sokak> plenty.
[02:24] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> I wanna do some tunnelling over SSH.
[02:24] <sokak> thats the motherlode of shell snippets.
[02:24] <Pengu1n_Phr0zen> Any takers?
[02:24] <travisHAZE> How about if I wanted to design my own program?
[02:25] <horse1bun> am I still here
[02:25] <evildaemon> Learn python.
[02:25] <sokak> travisHAZE, the best starting point is to learn existing ones, then learn how to combo them scripting. then you can move to learn programming languages.
[02:25] <horse1bun> nice yea good idea, I should dive into python
[02:25] <travisHAZE> Baby steps are a good idea
[02:25] <travisHAZE> But even a baby needs a hand to hold
[02:25] <travisHAZE> So where can I find this proverbial hand to hold?
[02:26] <sokak> yeah, learn them, use them, combine them, then build whats missing.
[02:26] <evildaemon> Also travisHAZE, you can press tab twice.
[02:26] <travisHAZE> evildaemon, got that one
[02:26] <horse1bun> try Kturtle
[02:26] <evildaemon> The benefit of compgen is that you can direct the outpit to places.
[02:26] <evildaemon> *output
[02:26] <mig_seixas> hello !
[02:27] <horse1bun> I am playing around with Celestia so I can write some scripts for it
[02:27] <horse1bun> I love that App
[02:28] <horse1bun> nothing liberates quite like astral traveling
[02:28] <sokak> then dont miss celestia motherlode, google for it.
[02:29] <evildaemon> Anyway, I once saw a grep script that took 9 minutes to execute.
[02:29] <travisHAZE> What is an #ifdef?
[02:29] <evildaemon> The dude eventually realized he had to do the --lang=C option.
[02:29] <sokak> evildaemon, it all depends on how much data you grep
[02:30] <evildaemon> Of course, that was on a solaris related system.
[02:30] <evildaemon> Not Linux.
[02:30] <sokak> travisHAZE, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_preprocessor
[02:31] <sokak> wiki is full of stuff.
[02:31] <evildaemon> It is.
[02:31] <evildaemon> Wiki actually has a surprising amount of general unix knowledge.
[02:32] <sokak> yeah, a handy place to gather papers.
[02:32] <travisHAZE> So an #ifdef is a conditional inclusion of a macro definition?
[02:32] <evildaemon> Arch wiki is pretty awesome.
[02:32] <sokak> Arch phylosophy is - they dont thell you just what, but why and how.
[02:33] <horse1bun> the non profit I work for has an astronomy program, so I wanted to put together sort of a "tour of the universe"
[02:33] <evildaemon> I think that the Ubuntu wiki needs more TLC.
[02:33] <horse1bun> showing where we are in the milky way galaxy
[02:33] <sokak> just thinking it wont help - arch is what is because of active contributions ;)
[02:34] <evildaemon> Anyway, my second question was: in 11.10 (I tried both Unity-buntu and Xubuntu) my wireless won't connect. It will broadcast, it will pick up signal, but not connect.
[02:34] <sokak> evildaemon, which chipset you have?
[02:34] <evildaemon> I've tried two different adapters.
[02:34] <evildaemon> And a built-in card.
[02:34] <evildaemon> Same results.
[02:35] <sokak> focus on one, and lets try to see whats going wrong.
[02:35] <horse1bun> and If I can't write a script then at the least I can fly around and operate it myself
[02:35] <sokak> horse1bun, thats all great, but we are in #ununtu, not #celestia ;)
[02:35] <somsip> horse1bun: worth looking at stellarium maybe
[02:35] <sokak> *eats the n and spews a b
[02:36] <horse1bun> oh sorry I thought the two were related somehow
[02:36] <sokak> somsip, stellarium is just a different point of view of Celestia ;)
[02:36] <somsip> sokak: as soon as you mentioned celestia I realised that was the one I meant to recomment :)
[02:37] <sokak> i agree horse1bun its just that we should keep ubuntu issue related somehow, but im not the channel op, so please feel free to ignore me ;3
[02:37] <horse1bun> so ubuntu has nothing to do with celestia, i thought ubuntu made it
[02:38] <horse1bun> I'm just one of those leechers here for the free software
[02:38] <evildaemon> Can someone explain open-source to horse1bun?
[02:38] <somsip> horse1bun: celestia is written by a group of people and they make it freely available. ubuntu makes a package of their software available for users of ubuntu
[02:39] <horse1bun> yea that's kind of what I thought
[02:39] <horse1bun> I just didn't want to sound stupid
[02:39] <sokak> hey hey - lets not fight about that - at the very end we are here to enjoy and help right?  So thats not the problem./
[02:41] <horse1bun> all software available on ubuntu is like modular software packages all developed separately just able to function on the operating system?
[02:41] <evildaemon> Yup.
[02:41] <l1nuxman> what do i do about this error? "Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit."
[02:41] <MahaVishnu> horse1bun$ alot of stuff depends on other stuff though
[02:41] <evildaemon> Including Linux itself.
[02:42] <somsip> And core packages that make up the GNU part of GNU/Linux
[02:42] <evildaemon> Ubuntu is Mark shuttleworths fork of Debian.
[02:42] <sokak> evildaemon, i would give the drivers they offer a try, if jockey isnt able to find appropriate ones http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[02:42] <evildaemon> Which is a system made from the GNU utilities and the Linux kernel.
[02:42] <horse1bun> oh yea I remember seeing the linux evolution tree
[02:43] <evildaemon> sokak, Jockey DOES, it still doesn't connect.
[02:43] <evildaemon> What part of "The problem persists across devices" don't you understand?
[02:44] <sokak> ^^
[02:44] <sokak> then try to peep here, evildaemon http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861220
[02:44] <horse1bun> yea I just managed to get my broadcom wireless pci working in Lucid
[02:45] <sokak> we can survive the broadcom omen :|
[02:45] <horse1bun> I tried ndiswrapper but then ran into a problem because nidiswrapper (file) is supposed to be named ndiswrapper.conf
[02:46] <evildaemon> THE PROBLEM ISN'T BROADCOM! (And that thread isn't my issue.)
[02:46] <horse1bun> whilst trying to sort that out, I found out broadcom released an open source driver
[02:46] <evildaemon> It worked in 10.10
[02:46] <sokak> i always fixed it quick and dirty with ralink adapters (branded d-link)
[02:46] <horse1bun> or rather a proprietary supported
[02:47] <evildaemon> and on top of that.
[02:47] <evildaemon> The card detects networks, is recognized as a device, and broadcasts.
[02:47] <evildaemon> It just won't connect to other networks.
[02:47] <horse1bun> now I finally have it functioning, but for some reason it shows up as eth0 instead of wlan
[02:48] <sokak> :| Always fixed such issues trying to make a new connection from scratch, or poking like suggested in those threads :|
[02:48] <horse1bun> and everytime I start the computer I have to type sudo modprobe wl to get the wireless working
[02:48] <sokak> horse1bun, same here, on an eeepc, but im not giving a damn, it works
[02:48] <horse1bun> same here lol
[02:48] <sokak> ahh, thats odd, its not happening to me
[02:49] <sokak> i dont have to do the modprobe thingy
[02:51] <N4N33_ST8> test
[02:51] <horse1bun> one of those times where I'm not sure how I got it to work even, just kept trying stuff until it did, lol
[02:52] <horse1bun> but maybe I should just get a newer distro
[02:53] <sokak> my rule of thumb is "dont poke it if works"
[02:54] <travisHAZE> My rule of thumb is
[02:54] <travisHAZE> Poke it until it breaks, then poke it some more
[02:54] <sokak> theire both good :)
[02:54] <seidos> my rule of thumb is: "keep it from getting cut off."
[02:54] <travisHAZE> That was how I got my first kill
[02:54] <travisHAZE> I poked this one person to death with a stick
[02:54] <ibingow> ask some question about cron. /etc/crontab, has this line:45 10   * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ), but the scripts in cron.daily never run. If change to: 45 10   * * *   root    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily, scripts run! why?
[02:54] <sokak> whoa stickfights?
[02:54] <travisHAZE> No
[02:54] <travisHAZE> I was just poking him
[02:55] <l1nuxman> Can someone help? I can't install software because i get this error: W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041F
[02:55] <travisHAZE> Eventually he keeled over and died
[02:55] <travisHAZE> So I kept poking
[02:55] <travisHAZE> Cause I hadn't poked a dead body
[02:55] <horse1bun> were you hazing them?
[02:55] <horse1bun> lol
[02:55] <travisHAZE> Haze is the middle name ma momma gave me
[02:55] <nac4l> I'm trying to setup a mail exchange server (i guess).  I have a dyndns/free domain for my apache2 server right now (only service i'm familiar with).  I just want to be able to setup a mx mail service so I can have a new email system on my machine/server.  Which one should I use, I'm thinking pop3, but there's many options, what is the best???
[02:56] <travisHAZE> pop3 leaves it on the server
[02:56] <travisHAZE> And you download a copy
[02:56] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: that's up to the pop3 client.
[02:56] <Frozenpacket> Does anyone know of a good Client Server for host domain email accounts?
[02:56] <travisHAZE> Pop3 leaves a copy on the server
[02:56] <sokak> l1nuxman, read here http://en.kioskea.net/faq/809-debian-apt-get-no-pubkey-gpg-error
[02:56] <travisHAZE> Its the IMTP or w/e it is that erases it
[02:56] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: the client can delete it.
[02:56] <nac4l> so do you guys know anything about setting it up?  Do I need to use evolution, or are there terminal based servers/ui thingy's that are better.
[02:56] <nac4l> it's just mail..
[02:57] <travisHAZE> No, its Email
[02:57] <travisHAZE> not just mail
[02:57] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: http://www.korokithakis.net/tutorials/email/
[02:58] <Frozenpacket> Does anyone know of a good server client i could download for hosting Domain adressed emails?
[02:58] <nac4l> ah so mail is local network and email is remote...  didn't know they had to differentiate, that's lame, you can't combine the service into one solution/
[02:58] <Frozenpacket> email accounts*
[02:59] <nac4l> I tried setting up my router dyn service and the DynDNS account (which is mcurran-exploit.dyndns.org) to mail.mcurran-exploit.dyndns.org
[02:59] <travisHAZE> swede, thats not an auto delete
[02:59] <travisHAZE> Thats a manual thing
[02:59] <SwedeMike> nac4l: email can be delivered to a A pointer as well, so just use mcurran-exploit.dyndns.org.
[03:00] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: neither IMAP nor POP3 has auto delete. it's always an action by the client.
[03:00] <travisHAZE> Then an IMAP client is programmed to automatically delete said email once it receives them
[03:01] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: some might be, but that's not the standard.
[03:01] <travisHAZE> Outlook, evolution, thunderbird all do it automatically for IMAP
[03:01] <travisHAZE> only email clients I've used
[03:02] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol "E-mail clients using IMAP generally leave messages on the server until the user explicitly deletes them. This and other characteristics of IMAP operation allow multiple clients to manage the same mailbox."
[03:02] <sokak> gppdbye everyone, rl time u.u
[03:02] <l1nuxman> thank ou sokak that did it
[03:02] <skegeek> msg nickserv identify 89chevygeek11
[03:02] <sokak> yw l1nuxman
[03:02] <travisHAZE> I specifically use IMAP because it erases the emails from the server once it retrieves them
[03:02] <SwedeMike> skegeek: good one.
[03:02] <skegeek> ??
[03:02] <xangua> skegeek: interesting #fail
[03:02] <skegeek> Crap
[03:03] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: there might be some default in there, but there is nothing in the protocol that says that.
[03:03] <zombastiq> system cannot see my usb hard drive dock... is there potential for a solution?
[03:03] <travisHAZE> POP3 has always left the mail on the server while IMAP always deleted it
[03:03] <travisHAZE> (For me at least)
[03:04] <SwedeMike> travisHAZE: well, that might be your experience with the defaults in your specific clients you've tried, but there is nothing general by those protocols that says this is always the case.
[03:04] <Flannel> travisHAZE: Thats generally the opposite, actually.
[03:05] <godofmischief> after making a file executable using chmod +x if i type the file name in the CLI says command not found, if i double click it via nautilus it says must be run as root, what's the proper way to execute a file as root once its been made executable?
[03:06] <egoga> What is foo?
[03:06] <travisHAZE> Flannel, sorry I'm against the grain unwittingly. SwedeMike I will admit I know nothing of the inherent defaults associated with each of these protocols, I was speaking from personal experience
[03:07] <zombastiq> usb device does not show up in lsusb.  how can i force detect?
[03:07] <drewis_> godofmischief: sudo ./filename
[03:08] <Guest26856> anyone want to help a linux newb with setting up wpa_supplicant?
[03:08] <egoga> What is foo?
[03:08] <godofmischief> thansk drewis
[03:08] <egoga> comeon dag nabbit
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[03:08] <FloodBot1> egoga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[03:08] <Guest26856> I'm reading this guide on smallnetbuilder
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[03:08] <Guest26856> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-howto/30213-how-to-setting-up-freeradius-for-wpa-a-wpa2-enterprise-part-2?start=5
[03:09] <Guest26856> and I got openssl and freeradius set up, but in the 'configuring a linux clien' section it says configure wpa_supplicant with the following options in ".config" file
[03:10] <Guest26856> but I have a newer version of wpa_supplciant and there is no .config file???
[03:11] <seidos> Guest26856: i have some notes on wpa_supplicant somewhere that may help you
[03:11] <Guest26856> there is config.c and config.h but they don't have the kind of script the gyide shows
[03:12] <seidos> Guest26856: i think you want /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[03:13] <Guest26856> well the next step after that they say Next edit "wpa_supplicant.conf" and add a section similar to the following,
[03:13] <Guest26856> so I think they are 2 different files completely
[03:14] <Guest26856> what I'm stuck on is - Configure wpa_supplicant with the following options set in ".config" file
[03:17] <samba23> i have startdup xrdp and from windows i am using mstsc/rdp i am able to get remote screen but keys seems to be messed non of key printing right
[03:18] <sparr> in 11.10 how do I add widgets to my top bar/panel?
[03:19] <Guest26856> I'm looking through all the config files for script like this CONFIG_IEEE8021X_EAPOL=y CONFIG_EAP_TLS=y CONFIG_PKCS12=y
[03:23] <daftykins> samba23: why aren't you just using VNC?
[03:24] <ImTheDude> how do i get my microphone to work in skype?
[03:25] <samba23> what i should do then
[03:25] <samba23> i use vnc
[03:26] <daftykins> if you're in Ubuntu, enable remote desktop then you can connect to it using VNC
[03:27] <samba23> my server is ubuntu and windows 7 is vnc client
[03:27] <jiltdil> best video editor?
[03:28] <aeon-ltd> jiltdil: there isn't one
[03:28] <Xenicide> Is it possible to move and/or cut paste files?
[03:28] <seidos> i thought there was...Maya?
[03:29] <jrib> Xenicide: sure.  Are you asking about a particular context though?
[03:29] <jiltdil> seidos, that is for animation bst
[03:30] <samba23> i try vnc cleint also it give me blank screen
[03:31] <chester> Hi all. Never used IRC before, so will try not to annoy anyone. I've been reading around online for about an hour trying to solve a problem, and thought maybe it would be more useful if someone might help me?
[03:31] <aeon-ltd> chester: ask away
[03:31] <jrib> chester: on irc we prefer that you just ask your question.  If someone can help, they'll respond
[03:32] <nac4l> where can I find help on setting up a mail server, maybe with pop3 (not sure), and have the ability to send and receive email from my machine, and use ADDRESS as my free dyndns account "mcurran-exploit.dyndns.org"?
[03:32] <chester> I just installed Ubuntu on an ooold dekstop system at my work. When I logged in for the first time, it looked like the desktop was too big.
[03:32] <skegeek> Is Unity the reason for the menu on the left?
[03:32] <chester> I assume it's a resolution issue, so I've been trying to figure out how to modify my xconf.org
[03:32] <nac4l> Everything I've found is way to in depth already and I'm a noob at exchange mail shit.
[03:33] <Xenicide> jrib, if i drag a file it just copy, and i cant see any paste option by right-clicking.
[03:33] <nac4l> should I use evolution or a terminal based email server/client.  And is there any simple tutorials on setting one up?  I though there is already several email services installed by default in ubunutu, can I use htose?
[03:34] <chester> How do I write an xconf.org file to make my screen resolution higher?
[03:34] <seidos> nac4l: maybe start with evolution, and go to a cli one later?
[03:34] <nac4l> setup a display section in xorg.conf,
[03:35] <chester> @nac4l, how do I know what to include in the display section?
[03:36] <jhirn> Hi. Gnome-shell hard crashes on me a few times a day. I have to hold power to power off the laptop. What log files or diagnostics can I run to determine the root?
[03:36] <robin0800> chester: if your using unity you can click the top right corner and choose system settings
[03:38] <skegeek> I can't get Ubuntu to stop freezing when it's been idle for a few minutes.
[03:39] <chester> @robin0800, the display is not detected, and the only resolution to choose is 640x480\
[03:40] <qovii> heh.  i'm ircing on my  ipod toich
[03:41] <aruncn1> java
[03:42] <TheLegace> could someone please tell me how i can add .pc file to the pkg-config
[03:42] <TheLegace> system
[03:43] <ImTheDude> in preferences and sound i raised the level on my microphone and ran a test on skype and still no sound?
[03:43] <ImTheDude> what do i do?
[03:49] <cordor> is there any reason ubuntu only show 1 core?
[03:50] <aeon-ltd> cordor: you only have one core?
[03:51] <aeon-ltd> cordor: what processor?
[03:52] <cordor> found a sempron 145, unlocked and booted up, but only 1 core there.
[03:52] <daftykins> semprons only ever were single core i thought
[03:53] <cordor> daftykins: "unlocked"
[03:53] <daftykins> yep single
[03:53] <daftykins> cordor: what relevance does the multiplier state have to core count? :)
[03:54] <hh> I tried installing compiz, but a weird thing happens: first of all, alt+tab doesn't work at all (even if I enable 'static application switcher'); and the cube is just a two-sided sheet.
[03:54] <hh> Do you know how to resolve this?
[03:54] <daftykins> install simple-ccsm and tweak it to how you want
[03:54] <daftykins> you need four workspaces to have a cube of course ;)
[03:55] <hh> I have four before I run "compiz -replace ccp", but it turns it into 2.
[03:55] <hh> simple-ccsm? I'll try that.
[03:56] <hh> I get "Package simple-ccsm is not available, but is referred to by another package." when I try apt-get.
[03:56] <cordor> daftykins: core and multiplier are 2 things.
[03:56] <daftykins> cordor: different things yep
[03:56] <Flannel> hh: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:57] <hh> I installed it a few weeks ago, but I'm not sure. I think 11.something...
[03:57] <cordor> i havn't touch multiplexer yet, i only unloaded the core.
[03:57] <Flannel> hh: `lsb_release -a` in a terminal will tell you
[03:58] <cordor> i was hoping if it works. i will do it on the other cpu.
[03:58] <hh> 11.10
[03:58] <nemo> Hey guys, I was going to attempt to install ubuntu 64 on top of an existing 32 bit install
[03:58] <nemo> And I was thinking about how I could most quickly get back to the env I was accustomed to
[03:59] <Flannel> hh: So, the reason you can't install simple-ccsm is because it doesn't exist in 11.10.  I'm not sure what a replacement would be though, unfortunately.
[03:59] <nemo> sooo. I figured I could note down every package installed right now
[03:59] <hh> Hmmm...
[03:59] <nemo> ideally ones that I chose to install
[03:59] <nemo> how best could I get that list?
[03:59] <blarney> gnome shell crashed on me (11.10) and is not reloading.  i dont have a window manager or anything, but I can start programs (but not switch between them) by browsing the filesystem and double clicking the executables.  given that, how do i restart gnome-shell?
[03:59] <nemo> sudo apt-get install xxxxx but ideally not including pulled in dep yyyyy
[04:00] <nemo> blarney: open a terminal
[04:00] <nemo> type gnome-shell
[04:00] <nemo> :)
[04:00] <nemo> gnome-terminal that is
[04:00] <nemo> that's how I did it
[04:01] <blarney> ah, that makes sense...
[04:01] <nemo> blarney: since gnome-shell was crashing on me once a minute I actually put into terminal   while((1));do gnome-shell;done
[04:01] <nemo> until it got too annoying
[04:01] <nemo> I'm on XFCE4 now
[04:01] <blarney> nemo: thanks ill kill chromium and try that
[04:01] <nemo> blarney: I was using fglrx FWIW
[04:01] <ImTheDude> how do i get my sound to work in skype ?
[04:01] <blarney> nemo: how is XFCE?  I tried it years ago and it seemed to be horrendously outdated and nothing was integrated...
[04:01] <nemo> blarney: gotten a bit better
[04:02] <nemo> blarney: can't hurt to install it if you have 125MiB to burn
[04:02] <ImTheDude>  i already uped the volume in my sound preferences
[04:02] <nemo> I find it requires fewer mouse clicks than Unity, and is less inclined to do WTF things like resize my terminal when I flip between desktops and machines (synergy2)
[04:02] <blarney> ImTheDude: try running a sound test within skype (you may want to put your volume at bout 50%) and follow the instructions.  that has worked for me whenever ive used skype.
[04:03] <nemo> blarney: BTW. another thing I hated about gnome-shell - I like translucent terminals, but junk on my desktop and in windows behind them makes it hard to read the text
[04:03] <nemo> blarney: in Unity and gnome2 w/ compiz, you can enable blurring of translucent windows
[04:03] <blarney> nemo: ah, thanks, the mouse travel in G3 and the number of clicks to do anything in unity is driving me up a wall.  ill see what i can do with XFCE.
[04:03]  * qovii recently moved to xfce from fluxbox and loves it
[04:03] <nemo> blarney: breaks up sharp lines in text behind terminal windows - as far as I can tell, this is impossible in gnome-shell
[04:03] <ImTheDude> i ran test on skype and i raised the volume in my sound preferences and still no sound.
[04:04] <nemo> blarney: gnome-shell was more usable w/ the mint gnome shell extensions
[04:04] <nemo> blarney: you can get those from the webupd8 ppa
[04:04] <blarney> nemo: yeah, i dont know why theyre in love with that, it really has to be a subtle blending to work well
[04:04] <ImTheDude> theres not a pluging is there
[04:05] <blarney> nemo: so the webupd8 ppa is alright then?  i hadnt heard of them before and i didnt want their ppa messing with stuff
[04:05]  * nemo shrugs
[04:05] <nemo> blarney: seems fine to me
[04:05]  * qovii decides ircing on ipod tou h is suboptimal
[04:05] <nemo> blarney: they have a gnome3 specific one - check their blog
[04:05] <blarney> ImTheDude: im sorry, i didnt understand what you last said - is there or is there not a plugin?
[04:05] <blarney> nemo: ah, thanks, will do
[04:05] <nemo> qovii: heh. when I IRC on the android tablet, I plug in my desktop keyboard.
[04:05] <nemo> qovii: yay for USB support :)
[04:06] <blarney> ImTheDude: brb
[04:06] <ImTheDude> i dont know is there something i need to download from package mannager or software center to help my microphone work better?
[04:07] <nemo> ImTheDude: heh.  internal mic not working?
[04:07] <ImTheDude> ya
[04:07] <ImTheDude> nemo
[04:07] <nemo> ImTheDude: laptop or something, ALC892 card?
[04:07] <qovii> i'm using ircII
[04:07] <ImTheDude> yes nemo
[04:07] <hh> Flannel: can I install a package that's meant for an old version of ubuntu?
[04:07] <ImTheDude> netbook
[04:07] <nemo> ImTheDude: depending on the audio codec, support under linux is hit or miss.  I filed a few bugs against my laptop actually. that was one of them
[04:08] <ImTheDude> so what do i do?
[04:08] <ImTheDude> i running an acer net book with internel speekers
[04:08] <nemo> ImTheDude: well, as I recall, there are a *ton* of variations you can try. apparently the manufacturer implementations are wide and varied
[04:08] <ImTheDude> and sound is not functioning
[04:09] <nemo> ImTheDude: you know, when setting up your codec
[04:09] <nemo> but whether one of those will work is really... well... who knows
[04:09] <nemo> ImTheDude: I'd definitely start at a minimum by filing a bug on launchpad
[04:09] <ImTheDude> so its a shot in the dark
[04:09] <nemo> ImTheDude: try testing an external mic if you can get one. even a cheap $5 one
[04:09] <nemo> ImTheDude: you can also try filing a bug w/ the kernel folks
[04:10] <nemo> but really, it is about waiting on some nice kernel person to do the manufacturer's job for them ;)
[04:10] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/791904 - filed this one for example
[04:10] <ImTheDude> so try external is what your telling is the best plan
[04:10] <nemo> ImTheDude: my mom's internal mic didn't work, but after switching codec settings, it did
[04:10] <nemo> ImTheDude: check launchpad and forum for existing reports for your audio device
[04:11] <ImTheDude> i dont know how or where to do that?
[04:11] <nemo> try the changes to audio module config
[04:11] <ImTheDude> where do i do that and how?
[04:11] <nemo> often times there are settings for it they suggest
[04:11] <nemo> ImTheDude: do you know your audio card? should be listed in lspci
[04:11] <nemo> for example...
[04:11] <nemo> $ lspci | grep -i audio
[04:11] <nemo> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:11] <ImTheDude> wheres that
[04:11] <nemo> run that on a terminal
[04:11] <ImTheDude> lspci
[04:12] <ImTheDude> i type lspci
[04:12] <nemo> once you have the chipset info, you can search for other reports
[04:12] <ImTheDude> in terminal
[04:12] <nemo> there might be a config tweak you can do
[04:12] <ImTheDude> what do i type in the terrminal
[04:12] <ImTheDude> do you know
[04:13] <nemo> lspci
[04:13] <nemo> ImTheDude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto - here's a guide someone wrote
[04:13] <nemo> listen. I just came by here to get a list of packages. I figured out how to do it, so I'm gonna go work on my new hardware
[04:13] <nemo> ImTheDude: good luck try google, try suggestions on that page, and definitely file a bug
[04:13] <nemo> seeya
[04:14] <ImTheDude> how do screen shot
[04:15] <jetscreamer> usual method, usually
[04:17] <boldfilter> Is there a lense that fixes unity?
[04:18] <Hilikus> i want to write a Lens for Unity but i wanted to know if it would be possible to write it in java or c# instead of vala
[04:18] <Hilikus> is it possible?
[04:18] <qbert_> I have unallocated space on my drive, how can I add it to my main root point ?
[04:19] <Hilikus> qbert_: grow your partition
[04:19] <travisHAZE> theres a partition manager
[04:19] <travisHAZE> in ubt
[04:19] <jetscreamer> gparted isn't it
[04:19] <qbert_> gparted ?
[04:19] <Linuxnut> Use gparted
[04:19] <qbert_> Hilikus, what tool do you use for that ?
[04:19] <travisHAZE> isn't gparted the command line partition manager?
[04:19] <Hilikus> qbert_: gparted
[04:19] <jetscreamer> nah that's parted
[04:19] <Linuxnut> Nope gui
[04:19] <jetscreamer> the g is gnome gui i think
[04:20] <qbert_> ya
[04:20] <robin0800> travisHAZE: doubt you can do that as root will be mounted
[04:20] <travisHAZE> Not if you have a live usb install
[04:20] <qbert_> so I use the live cd, then us gparted ?
[04:20] <qbert_> brilliant
[04:21] <qbert_> ill be back!
[04:21] <ImTheDude> nemo
[04:21] <ImTheDude> Codec: Realtek ALC268
[04:21] <Linuxnut> There is a live cd just for gparted
[04:22] <ImTheDude> i tried the other commands for hd audio models and it dennied me access
[04:22] <ImTheDude> what do i do?
[04:28] <xyy> i have a server,it has 4 x 4 cores cpus, load average= 28.83 25.22 18.08,is it overload?
[04:28] <Linuxnut> Yes big time overload read your log files
[04:29] <Linuxnut> What do you host on the server
[04:30] <xyy> how does load average fit on this server?Linuxnut
[04:30] <xyy> it's a database server
[04:32] <erek> do you guys think Ubuntu 10.11 will run nicely on a Pentium M 1.86GHz w/ 1GB DDR2 ?
[04:33] <aeon-ltd> not stock
[04:33] <Linuxnut> Whats causing the overhead whats it say when you run the top command
[04:33] <aeon-ltd> erek: lubuntu or xubuntu will likely run smoother
[04:33] <erek> sigh
[04:34] <erek> what's a good distribution for that cpu and resources?
[04:34] <erek> see
[04:34] <erek> i want it to be easy
[04:34] <erek> for my dad
[04:34] <erek> Fedora 12 was super easy for him
[04:34] <wind> erek: Debian is very light with those specs, and it has many similarities with Ubuntu because Ubuntu is based on it
[04:34] <xyy> it says
[04:34] <xyy> 27267 oracle    17   0 12.3g 1.0g 1.0g R   98  6.5   4:16.70 oracle
[04:34] <xyy> 31957 oracle    16   0 12.3g 199m 194m R   68  1.2   0:01.16 oracle
[04:34] <xyy> 32204 root      20   0 13136 1464  708 R    6  0.0   0:00.05 top
[04:34] <xyy> 32050 oracle    15   0 12.3g 338m 333m S    6  2.1   0:01.01 oracle
[04:34] <xyy> 31990 oracle    15   0 12.3g  59m  52m S    6  0.4   0:00.61 oracle
[04:34] <FloodBot1> xyy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <xyy> it says
[04:35] <xyy>  27267 oracle    17   0 12.3g 1.0g 1.0g R   98  6.5   4:16.70 oracle
[04:35] <xyy> 31957 oracle    16   0 12.3g 199m 194m R   68  1.2   0:01.16 oracle
[04:35] <xyy> 32204 root      20   0 13136 1464  708 R    6  0.0   0:00.05 top
[04:35] <FloodBot1> xyy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <samba23> how to get X windows/gui using ssh i am using putty
[04:36] <Linuxnut> to use xserver in putty install xming
[04:36] <samba23> ok
[04:37] <wind> erek: if you're not afraid of console you could also install ubuntu-server and then add only a light window manager (like fluxbox and such) and only those apps you need
[04:37] <Linuxnut> A base install of debian is like 10 mb
[04:38] <erek> i just want it to be super userfriendly for my dad to use
[04:38] <erek> he can't even install windows
[04:38] <erek> or anything
[04:38] <erek> he can't even hardly install programs
[04:38] <Hilikus> erek: if you want simplicity you will probably have to go with a full-blown gnome desktop
[04:38] <Maquiavelo> Hmm, okey I just installed ubuntu on a USB Stick as per the instructions. It boots up. It says "Run Ubuntu from this USB" i hit enter, the computer makes a beep noise and returns to the menu.
[04:39] <Hilikus> xfe and these lightweights are not super userfriendly IMO
[04:39] <Linuxnut> I NO I NO Puppy linux
[04:40] <wind> Hilikus: still, it's not much to learn to start browser with right button on the desktop and after that it's like on any computer ;) but yes, xubuntu should be nice with those specs too
[04:41] <litropy> Hi, peeps. I had an HDTV hooked up to my comp, and I custom configured it to only display on the HDTV. Well, the HDTV is gone, and now when I boot my ubuntu partition, it's pretty much unmanagable because the dimensions are all out of whack. I can, however, get to a command prompt, and I'm looking for the command(s) to set things back to default. Thank you very much in advance.
[04:41] <erek> do you think ubuntu will run decently on a pentium m 1.86GHz?
[04:41] <Linuxnut> Puppy linux is what your dad needs it will run on like 64 megs of ram and its ez to use and fast to install i will run on computers from th 90's
[04:42] <Hilikus> litropy: try renaming xorg.conf in etc/X11
[04:42] <Linuxnut> *the
[04:42] <wind> erek: I don't think it will be too bad if he only uses like a web browser and doesn't multitask much
[04:42] <litropy> Quick note: no dice in setting things back using the monitor config panel - the custom config just confuses the monitor config panel beyond use.
[04:42] <erek> wind what about tabs, multiple tabs in a browser
[04:42] <trav|zzz> Query: Is there a way to have Ubuntu auto suspend and unsuspend at specific times? (EG Suspend at midnight and unsuspend at 6am?)
[04:42] <litropy> Hilikus, will do and report back.
[04:43] <wind> erek: some people have 100 tabs and it's slow, some have a few and it's not much of a difference
[04:43] <Linuxnut> Puppy boots in less than a minute, even in old PCs, and it does not require antivirus software. Administering Puppy is quick and minimal. With Puppy, you just have to take care of your data, which you can easily save to USB flash (Then forget about your operating system!). Your data can be read by other computers.
[04:44] <wind> erek: why not just try it since other things add up to the experience too, like speed of the hard disk. you could always turn the already installed ubuntu into xubuntu with a few lines
[04:44] <newmember> erek, I am on a IntelÂŪ Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz Ã 2 with 4 Gig RAM, it works but things like google earth is choppy
[04:44] <Maquiavelo> Anyone?
[04:44] <Maquiavelo> Hmm, okey I just installed ubuntu on a USB Stick as per the instructions. It boots up. It says "Run Ubuntu from this USB" i hit enter, the computer makes a beep noise and returns to the menu.
[04:44] <erek> newmember: hmm
[04:45] <Linuxnut> You don't have to save data to hard drive to work with Puppy. You can save data to USB flash or even to Internet storage (like www.drop.io ). When installed to USB flash, Puppy consumes only a little over 100 MB, or about 256 MB with OpenOffice. You can use the same USB flash (where Puppy is installed) for saving data.
[04:45] <newmember> erek, kids surf and play flash games fine most of the time
[04:45] <trav|zzz> Query: Is there a way to have Ubuntu auto suspend and unsuspend at specific times? (EG Suspend at midnight and unsuspend at 6am?)
[04:46] <erek> newmember: i'll give it a shot
[04:46] <hemanth> using evolution with M$ exchange server, the calendar part does not work as expected :( anyone tried configuring it, so as to sent the calendar in right format?
[04:48] <newmember> erek, cant hurt, use a live cd if you want to try it fist, or a live usb would be better
[04:48] <chachan> hey there, I would like to know how to make a slice on a string, let's say that I have this: "200M" and I would like to make a slice to convert it to "200", can _awk_ help me with this?
[04:49] <trav|zzz> Query: Is there a way to have Ubuntu auto suspend and unsuspend at specific times? (EG Suspend at midnight and unsuspend at 6am?)
[04:49] <wind> Linuxnut: what browser does Puppy come with? I was supprised that debian+fluxbox+iceweasel ran very smoothly with heavy sites like facebook, on a 1.13GHz P3 with 768MB :) but it was a bit older firefox with some stripped (and added) features
[04:49] <erek> newmember: is it better to install directly, or install from live cd
[04:50] <Linuxnut> You can use firefox chrome etc
[04:50] <erek> newmember: i've installed from live cd a fedora 12, but it seems to be getting "slow" which is odd because linux usually doesn't do that
[04:50] <erek> i think the desktop kept saving states
[04:50] <erek> and i wish i could clear the states so no hidden apps were loading
[04:50] <trav|zzz> : Query :: Is there a way to have Ubuntu auto suspend and unsuspend at specific times? (EG Suspend at midnight and unsuspend at 6am?)
[04:51] <chalcedony> how can i find the path to a spot on my husband's hard drive? he has ubuntu 10.10
[04:51] <urlin2u> erek, fedora is slow or another?
[04:51] <trav|zzz> chalce, what "spot" do you want to find?
[04:51] <erek> urlin2u: fedora 12 got slow after time
[04:51] <boldfilter> depends on how big the spot is
[04:52] <chalcedony> trav|zzz, he's got two hard drives, he's got room for my data on one of them
[04:52] <erek> urlin2u: i think some apps are sort loaded or soemthing from saving states after restarting
[04:52] <erek> of*
[04:52] <urlin2u> erek, this channel doen't really cover fedora but #fedora does
[04:52] <erek> sorry about that
[04:52] <urlin2u> erek, easy mistake no problem.
[04:52] <erek> urlin2u: i heard that ubuntu is the best netbook linux distribution
[04:52] <erek> that's why i am here
[04:53] <trav|zzz> Well the hard drives are going to be marked as sda and sdb
[04:53] <erek> i figured with netbook specs, a pentium m 1.86GHz 1GB DDR2 fit the bill
[04:53] <chalcedony> trav|zzz, he's a gui user, i'm command line. i don't understand what he does
[04:53] <urlin2u> erek, best is a personal thing really. :D
[04:53] <trav|zzz> so you would (I assume, haven't done multiple hds on ubuntu yet, byt read on it) go cd /dev/sda or cd /dev/sdb in the terminal chalce
[04:54] <wind> oh yes, isn't there that netbook version of ubuntu which is separate? maybe that'd work with an older big laptop too, if it's just for launching a browser
[04:54] <urlin2u> erek, the unity desktop resemples the original netbook desktop that is probably all really.
[04:54] <trav|zzz> wind, lubuntu is what your thinking of
[04:54] <urlin2u> resembles*
[04:54] <trav|zzz> Query: Is there a way to have Ubuntu auto suspend and unsuspend at specific times? (EG Suspend at midnight and unsuspend at 6am?)
[04:54] <chalcedony> trav|zzz, i set up an ssh sessoin and did df but i don't know which is what?
[04:55] <trav|zzz> Your going too far for me
[04:55] <trav|zzz> Sorry :(
[04:55] <chalcedony> trav|zzz, thanks :)
[04:55] <chalcedony> np
[04:55] <erek> i heard the integrated the netbook stuff into 10.04+
[04:55] <wind> trav|zzz: you can set up suspend in crontab but waking up is another thing, I think it needs some bios setting if it's even supported on the hardware
[04:55] <erek> they*
[04:55] <chalcedony> i appreciate your trying TRAP_1
[04:55] <chalcedony> trav|zzz,
[04:55] <erek> urlin2u: think i can get good performance with unity?
[04:56] <trav|zzz> wind: damn
[04:56] <wind> erek: if it's slow, remember to try "2D" mode which is unity with less effects (I think)
[04:56] <trav|zzz> 2d unity removes the 3d acceleration
[04:56] <trav|zzz> and removes the transparency IIRC
[04:56] <erek> ah
[04:57] <wind> yep, then it's faster if the 3D hardware is slow or drivers bugged
[04:57] <urlin2u> erek, hard to say not knowing your set up, beyond that some like it some don't, there is a gnome 3 opt5ion as well, and many other desktops. I can't really say what is best for you comfortably...to many varibles.
[04:57] <erek> urlin2u: pentium m 1.86GHz, 1GB DDR2
[04:57] <wind> (some pentium M laptops have real nice gfx chips while some have such you don't want 3D with linux)
[04:58] <erek> it's got an intel graphics chip
[04:59] <fakher> hey everybody
[04:59] <fakher> How can I watch flash videos in RSS feeds with Mozilla Thunderbird? pls
[04:59] <urlin2u> erek, you could try ubuntu or even better lubuntu for a ligfhter version.
[04:59] <urlin2u> lighter*
[04:59] <iqbalkhan> guys, i have drop mu ubuntu server
[04:59] <iqbalkhan> and install ubuntu desktop as server
[04:59] <iqbalkhan> with install samba server and ssh server
[05:00] <iqbalkhan> now i need to change my inet addr
[05:00] <court_jester> When I enable acpi apic for run my four cores, my ubuntu freeze randomly. If I turn it of on my bios or put nolapic in kernet init lines, it stop to botter but ubuntu only see one of my four cores after this trick. Has anyone experienced this?
[05:00] <erek> urlin2u: thanks
[05:00] <iqbalkhan> anyone know how to change inet addr
[05:00] <iqbalkhan> ??
[05:00] <court_jester> if off*
[05:00] <iqbalkhan> i need to configure that
[05:00] <urlin2u> erek, no problem.
[05:02] <TheLegace> hi does anyone here know how to use cmake?
[05:03] <court_jester> When I enable acpi apic for run my four cores, my ubuntu freeze randomly. If I turn it off on my bios or put nolapic in kernet init lines, it stop to botter but ubuntu only see one of my four cores after this trick. Has anyone experienced this?
[05:04] <Hilikus> how can i check if there is any process in my system using a particular file?
[05:04] <chachan> guys, how to chop a string?. I would like to convert "200M" to "200"
[05:04] <Dulan> TheLegace: Much like "make", you give cmake a special file, called CMakeLists.txt, that has special commands and syntax
[05:04] <chachan> Hilikus: fuser file.ext
[05:05] <chachan> Hilikus: that will return you the PID
[05:05] <Hilikus> thank you chachan
[05:05] <TheLegace> Dulan, im just trying to add this one link flag in the file
[05:05] <somsip> chachan: you need to define rules for how/where it is to be chopped. Remove a-zA-z? Keep th first 3 chars? Lose the last char? how?
[05:05] <TheLegace> im just trying to add -lpthread
[05:05] <TheLegace> nvm its resolved
[05:05] <chachan> somsip: I want to strip the last char
[05:06] <somsip> chachan: in bash?
[05:06] <chachan> somsip: bash or awk
[05:06] <somsip> chachan: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-remove-last-character-from-string-line-word/
[05:07] <chachan> somsip: great!
[05:07] <somsip> chachan: as this is not a ubuntu support matter, I would recomend you search for 'bash awk strip last char' as there are loads of results
[05:07] <somsip> chachan: np
[05:11] <hemanth> any tired configuring thunderbird with M$ exchange server ?
[05:11] <hemanth> it works well in evolution, except for the calendar part :/
[05:23] <ranjan> Hi all, any one who knows Apache Zookeeper?
[05:24] <skegeek> I have Adobe Flash set as Firefox default, but it keeps using Gnash...
[05:27] <r3za> hi guys , how can connect to authentication socks5 proxy through 11.10 ? is there any program or command suggestion ? my socks5 proxy server sets to 4000 port ! please help me
[05:30] <court_jester> When I enable acpi apic for run my four cores, my ubuntu freeze randomly. If I turn it off on my bios or put nolapic in kernet init lines, it stop to botter but ubuntu only see one of my four cores after this trick. Has anyone experienced this?
[05:30] <r3za> hi guys , how can connect to authentication socks5 proxy through 11.10 ? is there any program or command suggestion ? my socks5 proxy server sets to 4000 port ! please help me
[05:30] <rumpe1> r3za, maybe "tsocks"
[05:31] <r3za> rumpe1: is that a program ?
[05:31] <rumpe1> r3za, yes, a shell wrapper for network access. You can redirect an application to the proxy.
[05:31] <Sharpshooter> hai !! any body know how to create a image of my curret ubuntu os running on my system.?
[05:31] <r3za> rumpe1: dude , perfect thanks a lot
[05:31] <r3za> rumpe1: let me install it
[05:33] <rumpe1> r3za, I used it some time ago in combination with ssh-tunnel (sshd includes a socks-proxy)
[05:34] <Sharpshooter>  hai !! any body know how to create a image of my curret ubuntu os running on my system.?
[05:35] <rumpe1> Sharpshooter, what do you mean with image? copied folders or an image of the complete filesystem?
[05:36] <Sharpshooter> rumpe1, I want to use my installed os in Virtual machine
[05:36] <rumpe1> Sharpshooter, then you don't need an image. Virtuabox for one can use physical partitions as virtual ones.
[05:36] <r3za> rumpe1: i tried to connect my server through ssh with this command : "ssh -fND localhost:8888 nick@host" but it didn't response !
[05:38] <Sharpshooter> rumpe1,  no I mean that I want to make an  customized live cd for reinstalling with fully installed appilication as like my current os
[05:40] <rumpe1> r3za, -D needs a at least a (local) port (accoring to man ssh)
[05:41] <rumpe1> Sharpshooter, hm... so a "live image" of you running system? on a cd?
[05:41] <rumpe1> Sharpshooter, and how do you plan to install from that?
[05:41] <hemanth> any tired configuring thunderbird with M$ exchange server ?
[05:41] <hemanth> it works well in evolution, except for the calendar part :/
[05:41] <r3za> rumpe1: can u send me a command for my socks5 proxy server that it use port 4000 ?
[05:42] <rumpe1> r3za, in an old script of mine i used that: /usr/bin/ssh -p $hostport -f -N -D 1080 user@host    (for creating a tunnel)
[05:43] <rumpe1> r3za, i guess i then could connect using tsocks on localhost:1080
[05:44] <rumpe1> r3za, erm... not "connect" but redirect the application
[05:44] <r3za> rumpe1: i know , when i use this command i didn't get response ?
[05:46] <raviepic3> people i hate the new look of ubuntu gnome UI - how do i revert back to the old UI but keep the other parts of the OS upgrade intact ?
[05:47] <Sharpshooter>  rumpe1,  no I mean that I want to make an  customized live cd for reinstalling with fully installed appilication as like my current os
[05:49] <michaela> hi i have ubuntu 11.10 installed on my dell inspiron 1545 and some times my mouse pad freezes
[05:49] <michaela> can any one help me
[05:50] <Guest64093> raviepic3: use gnome classic look at login screen]
[05:51] <raviepic3> Guest64093, oh. will check that option out
[05:51] <raviepic3> Guest64093, in the process of bringing it to old view i screwed up current UI
[05:51] <raviepic3> i changed some settings on the UI front with the GNOME on my ubuntu and i ended up like this http://imageshack.us/f/526/selection004y.png/
[05:51] <raviepic3> i am not able to get the title bar with which i can move the window to different positions
[05:51] <raviepic3> how to reset ?
[05:52] <Guest64093> raviepic3: no idea
[05:52] <raviepic3> ok :(
[05:52] <X99> raviepic3:sudo reboot now
[05:52] <X99> :D
[05:53] <raviepic3> X99, wont that reboot the system with the same settings ?
[05:53] <raviepic3> my question is more on how to reset the UI
[05:55] <X99> what is your ubuntu version number?
[05:55] <X99> 11.10ïž
[05:58] <michaela> if any one has time i wold like to know how to fix the mouse pad on my lap top i have ubuntu 11.10 installed on my dell inspiron 1545 and the mouse pad freezes up some times i wold appreciate it a lot
[06:00] <X99> raviepic3ïžI met the same problem before,I just reboot my system,then it be ok .
[06:00] <xfire42> hey
[06:10] <michaela> i have ubuntu 11.10 32 bit installed on my dell inspiron 1545 and my mouse pad freezes up can some one help
[06:17]  * N4N33_ST8 wants to know how to vhost
[06:19] <hemanth> is there a way to mail the calendar in ics format, using evolution?
[06:25] <RokcStar> hey guys, i wanted to know if it's possible to save files that get downloaded off repositories
[06:26] <iceroot> RokcStar: that is done automaticly
[06:26] <iceroot> RokcStar: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:26] <iceroot> !offline | RokcStar
[06:28] <RokcStar> that is perfect! thanks so much iceroot
[06:32] <coolstar> I'm about to host an open source repo, and would like some opinions
[06:32] <coolstar> Should I choose svn, git, or mercurial?
[06:33] <coolstar> I never heard of mercurial, but i know about svn and git
[06:33] <coolstar> which is better? SVN or Git?
[06:33] <yamahaalex37> how do i make a shortcut...
[06:33] <yamahaalex37> coolstar, git is newer and everyone will say its better
[06:33] <LifeIsPain> not everyone will say is better
[06:33] <yamahaalex37> i like svn, because i got it working a lot faster and with windows tortoise is super easy
[06:33] <LifeIsPain> but more people will say it is better to be sure
[06:33] <coolstar> the project is linux only
[06:34] <yamahaalex37> and getting my repository on my own shared hosting was way easier
[06:34] <chachan> coolstar: I have used git, svn and mercurial and I feel more comfortable with git
[06:34] <coolstar> yamahallex37: Google Code is hosting it, so the setting up is the same
[06:34] <yamahaalex37> in that case use git
[06:34] <coolstar> i'm using git
[06:35] <LifeIsPain> I'm going to vote for SVN
[06:35] <LifeIsPain> (just because no one else said to use it)
[06:35] <coolstar> should I use GPL 2, GPL 3, or LGPL?
[06:35] <LifeIsPain> that really depends on the case by case issue, and what you want done with it
[06:36] <LifeIsPain> personally, I would do none of the above, but a BSD style license, but that is my preference
[06:41] <nguyenduyhung> cvl
[06:41] <yamahaalex37> ubu needs a show desktop icon
[06:42] <szal> Kubu has one ;)
[06:48] <coolstar> Should I use GPL 2, GPL 3, LGPL, or BSD?
[06:49] <dr_willis> coolstar:  try the #gpl channel?
[06:50] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:50] <coolstar> dr_willis: I'm asking about which licence ubuntu users prefer.
[06:51] <coolstar> dr_willis: I'm about to host an open source project, so i'm asking
[06:51] <yamahaalex37> i is confused
[06:51] <yamahaalex37> to install my .rpm, i just extract it?
[06:51] <yamahaalex37> to user/local/bin?
[06:52] <yamahaalex37> to install my .rpm, i just extract it?
[06:52] <yamahaalex37> to user/local/bin?
[06:52] <dr_willis> !alien
[06:52] <coolstar> yamahaalex: try alien
[06:52] <wind> yamahaalex37: why you want to install rpm package in ubuntu?
[06:53] <yamahaalex37> oh...
[06:53] <yamahaalex37> wait im sorry
[06:53] <yamahaalex37> its a .zip
[06:53] <dr_willis> depends on whats in the .zip
[06:53] <Tm_T> was there some global shortcut to grab a screen capture on default ubuntu install?
[06:53] <yamahaalex37> its aptana
[06:53] <dr_willis> Tm_T:  printscreen key
[06:54] <dr_willis> !info aptana
[06:54] <yamahaalex37> dr_willis,its aptana, extracting it works
[06:54] <yamahaalex37> im just wondering the proper place and way to install
[06:54] <dr_willis> no idea what aptana is. toss it in /opt/ i guess
[06:54] <yamahaalex37> what? i downloaded from their website
[06:54] <Tm_T> dr_willis: ah thanks, have forgotten the existence of that key /:
[06:54] <yamahaalex37> whats /opt
[06:55] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  a directory you install stuff to. thats not  managed by apt
[06:55] <dr_willis> 'optional'
[06:55] <dr_willis> or /usr/local perhaps
[06:55] <yamahaalex37> so /usr/local/bin is not correct?
[06:56] <yamahaalex37> because when I put it in /usr/local/bin, it puts the working directory in /root/Aptana
[06:56] <yamahaalex37> which confuses me
[06:56] <dr_willis> if just extracting the zip and running the binary works. you dont need to 'install' it system wide. you could just keep the dir in your home
[06:56] <yamahaalex37> seems it should be in /home/username/aptana
[06:57] <dr_willis> sounds  like you are running it as root
[06:57] <yamahaalex37> i extracted it as root
[06:57] <yamahaalex37> im logge din as me
[06:58] <michaela> hey!!! how can i fix my mouse pas on my laptop i have ubuntu 11.10 32 bit on my dell inspiron 1545 nd the mouse pad freezes
[06:59] <yamahaalex37> dr_willis, looks like you were right
[06:59] <yamahaalex37> so when I sudo su in terminal, that makes all my GUI activitied also root?
[06:59] <dr_willis> dont use sudo su, use sudo -s as needed  if you need a root shell.
[07:00] <dr_willis> and exit the shell when you are done
[07:00] <yamahaalex37> whats -s
[07:00] <dr_willis> only things started by that shwll would be ran as root.
[07:00] <dEramubu> using compiz on ubuntu 11.10, the right click has become weird. please help
[07:00] <dr_willis>  -s gives you a shell.
[07:00] <dr_willis> or -i
[07:00] <michaela> can anyone see my messages
[07:01] <dr_willis> michaela:  yes
[07:01] <soraj> yo!
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[07:01] <xjiujiu> terminal how to set a alpha effact?
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[07:02] <soraj> torrents.
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[07:03] <dr_willis> are evil... ;0
[07:03] <soraj> why do you have to use some shitty service?
[07:03] <somsip> !attitude | soraj
[07:03] <yamahaalex37> wtf ubuntu gives me so much worse battery life than windows
[07:03] <dr_willis> soraj:  never seen the point in those sites and their limits either.
[07:03] <somsip> soraj: ah - I didn't see context. Apologies
[07:03] <soraj> :D
[07:04] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  theres known powersaveing issues and lack of optimazations
[07:04] <RokcStar> yama not true
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[07:04] <|servidor-D-723> blackcats-games.net is only open for signup two times a year
[07:04] <FloodBot1> |servidor-D-723: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <soraj> and also playing hd video is ALOT slower than windows.
[07:04] <yamahaalex37> RokcStar,  it seems that way
[07:05] <yamahaalex37> this is a hybrid laptop, with discrete switchable graphics
[07:05] <RokcStar> how can you tell
[07:05] <yamahaalex37> i can tell, ive used it for years
[07:05] <yamahaalex37> its significally shorter
[07:05] <yamahaalex37> maybe the graphics are stuck on discrete?
[07:05] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  hybrid graphics is a area thats also verymuch a work in progress
[07:05] <RokcStar> perhaps the drivers are different
[07:06] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  some would consider you lucky it works at all.
[07:06] <yamahaalex37> i see
[07:06] <dr_willis> hopefully by the next release it will be much better
[07:06] <yamahaalex37> well, if this is on discrete mode, i would consider the batter better than windows in discrete mode
[07:07] <RokcStar> exit
[07:07] <yamahaalex37> its somewhere in between windows discrete and integrated
[07:07] <soraj> actually, its just firefox thats laggy. Chromium is much better.
[07:07] <soraj> sorry, OOC
[07:08] <goddard> anyone have some time to help debug an issue ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display/87370#87370
[07:08] <yamahaalex37> how do i unlock the panel on my ubu desktop, on the left
[07:08] <yamahaalex37> to put my own shortcuts
[07:09] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  for unity? just drag/drop therm there. or right click/pin to panel
[07:09] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  got links to good unity guides at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[07:10] <michaela> i have ubuntu 11.10 installed on my dell inspiron 1545  and the mouse pad freezes how do i fix it
[07:10] <yamahaalex37> dr_willis, i cant seem to re-arrange whats in the panel
[07:10] <yamahaalex37> like move one above another
[07:10] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  shift click perhaps.. check the guides
[07:10] <yamahaalex37> thanks nice site
[07:10] <dr_willis> or click/drag.. i dont recall
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[07:11] <ruduhtud> Get the latest releases and also older 2000-2010 abandonware gamez
[07:11] <FloodBot1> ruduhtud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <ruduhtud> http://www.blackcats-games.net/signup.php and create an account and use a good torrent client like uTorrent for FREE GAMEZ!
[07:12] <yamahaalex37> is there a "hide all" or "show desktop' icon or shortcut in ubu
[07:12] <ruduhtud> nnel; use #f
[07:13] <soee> yamahaalex37, are you using aptana ?
[07:13] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  i thik ive seen launcher to do that at the askubuntu.com  site. or in the unity tweaks at the webupd8 tweaks page
[07:13] <almoxarife> yamahaalex37: which ubu?
[07:15] <nicehs> hi, i just setup apf-firewall then rebooted, and altho it seems to be set to autostart it doesnt.. when I do "update-rc.d apf-firewall defaults" it says "System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/apf-firewall already exist.".   any idea what I can do?  can I simply just edit for example /etc/init.d/rc.local and put "apf -s" in it? ("apf -s" is the start-command for apf)
[07:15] <dr_willis> !info apf
[07:15] <michaela> i know that all of you are volunteers and are trying your best to keep up but i tried to find out how to fix my problem on line but i couldn't find anything
[07:16] <dr_willis> never even heard of apf-firewall
[07:16] <nicehs> !info apf-firewall
[07:16] <dr_willis> michaela:  you checkec askubuntu.com  and the forums?
[07:17] <michaela> yes
[07:17] <goddard> anyone have some time to help debug an issue ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display/87370#87370
[07:17] <michaela> i did
[07:17] <nicehs> think it just manages iptables to block ports,icmp and abusive ips etc. and should prevent some DoS'.  it seems to work and all, I just need a way to make it autostart when system boots. can I just put its startup command in top of "/etc/init.d/rc.local" ?
[07:18] <dr_willis> nicehs:  you mean /etc/rc.local ?
[07:19] <yamahaalex37> is unity new with 11?
[07:19] <yamahaalex37> do you guys prefer it
[07:19] <nicehs> oh yeah theres a /etc/rc.local.. i only checked /etc/init.d/rc.local and was alot inthere already, I guess /etc/rc.local is better and should even be perfect for this?
[07:20] <rajumoh> netsplit :-D
[07:20] <dr_willis> nicehs:  thats a ok place to put thangs.
[07:20] <nicehs> yeah thx just tried,putting it in /etc/rc.local seemed to work
[07:20] <dr_willis> i never see the splits. ;)
[07:20] <tresk> Something went wrong. I inserted a new script file in /etc/init.d/ and update-init.d it, but it doesn'twork .(
[07:21] <dr_willis> nicehs:  why not just use ufw?
[07:23] <tresk> I wanted to change the MAC of my net devices. Is it probably the wrong place to do it? I also tried /etc/network/if-pre-up.d and inserted a new script there. No success. or do I have to commit changes in that folder somehow?
[07:24] <arunce> tresk: did you restart the network
[07:24] <arunce> ?
[07:24] <yamahaalex37> is the unity quicklaunch thing on the left side even made for customizing?
[07:25] <tresk> arunce: yes. I reastarted the hole PC ,)
[07:25] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  theres some tweaks and tools for it. omg!ubuntu! blog site mentioned a new one today
[07:26] <dr_willis> called myUnity i think
[07:26] <peggys_mouse> i no longer seem to have access to many settings. is a common recent problem?
[07:26] <arunce> tresk: and you chmod +x?
[07:26] <tresk> mmm, I also changed /etc/interfaces... :(
[07:26] <tresk> arunce: yes, I did it was green in mc
[07:26] <tresk> same chown and chmod like the other scripts
[07:27] <dr_willis> peggys_mouse:  things have been getting reordered.. so it depends on what settings you mean
[07:27] <almoxarife> yamahaalex37: you seem to want the 2d experience/style menus
[07:27] <yamahaalex37> almoxarife, , i just want something customizable
[07:27] <peggys_mouse> dr_willis: it isn't that the settings are missing, they are greyed out. locked.
[07:27] <yamahaalex37> like with my own shortcuts
[07:27] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  shortcuts for what?
[07:27] <yamahaalex37> i deleted all the useless shortcuts in the left tasbar almoxarife
[07:27] <yamahaalex37> programs i use
[07:28] <yamahaalex37> and adding them to that taskbar does not seem trivial
[07:28] <dr_willis> you can make your own launchers, and pin them to the panel
[07:28] <almoxarife> yamahaalex37: in that case, install cairo-dock, install gnome-shell, install various progs from kde4 and figure it out
[07:28] <dr_willis> i just drag/drop or pin them..
[07:28] <peggys_mouse> dr_willis: for instance, if i go to user account settings, the unlock button is now greyed out. i can't edit a user's info.
[07:28] <yamahaalex37> i cant drag anything into that taskbar
[07:28] <arunce> tresk: and your script is ok? you have the shebang?
[07:29] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  sounds like some bug. check out some of the unity ussage videos perhaps.
[07:29] <yamahaalex37> dr_willis, , you can drag stuff into that panel on the far left?
[07:29] <yamahaalex37> the one that hides?
[07:29] <arunce> tresk: will it work if you call it?
[07:29] <yamahaalex37> im trying to drag AptanaStudio3 over there... not working
[07:29] <dr_willis> i launch gedit,  for examlple, and right click, pin the icon to panel
[07:29] <tresk> arunce: #!/bin/sh .... /usr/bin/macchanger -e eth0
[07:29] <yamahaalex37> and when I put it on my desktop, it doesnt seem to be a shortcut
[07:29] <almoxarife> yamahaalex37: no dragging?
[07:30] <tresk> arunce: yes it does
[07:30] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  it may be that ap has no .desktop file
[07:30] <dr_willis> the term shortcut is a little.. well windowish. ;)
[07:30] <tresk> arunce: a bit strange, but maybe Ubuntu resets the MAC later on ?!
[07:30] <dr_willis> make a .desktop launcher file for it. and it should work
[07:30] <yamahaalex37> uhhhh... theres no point in avoiding a term nvm
[07:31] <yamahaalex37> i can drag it to the desktop
[07:31] <dr_willis> since that aptana is not installed by the repos. it may be lacking the .desktop file the panel wants
[07:31] <yamahaalex37> but then it says missing libraries
[07:31] <nicehs> dr_willis: oh, didnt know about ufw.. thx, will check it out and prolly try that next time instead of apf then
[07:31] <yamahaalex37> i dont see any option to pin anywhere either
[07:31] <tresk> arunce: I put it at @S15_ .. should be ok, I guess.
[07:31] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  it wanst to run from its own directory.
[07:31] <arunce> tresk: try on if-up.d
[07:31] <yamahaalex37> dr_willis, where should i see that pin option you said
[07:32] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  try pinning and stuff with gedit to see if it works
[07:32] <tresk> arunce: but I can't change the IP it the device is up ..
[07:32] <tresk> arunce: I mean the MAC
[07:32] <arunce> no you can't
[07:32] <yamahaalex37> i can right click gedits icon while its open, and say keep in launcher
[07:32] <yamahaalex37> but not Aptana
[07:33] <arunce> tresk: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[07:33] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  so you needd to make a proper .desktop file for aptana
[07:33] <yamahaalex37> how do i do this
[07:33] <arunce> tresk: but you can change it on interfaces
[07:33] <dr_willis> yamahaalex37:  seen guides on it at askubuntu.com
[07:33] <yamahaalex37> ok
[07:33] <yamahaalex37> and how can i drag one launcher shortcut above another
[07:34] <arunce> tresk: I've one debian and one ubuntu server with that config
[07:34] <dr_willis> not on unity so i cant tell/dont remember
[07:34] <tresk> arunce: I tried this before, but I'll do it again, who knows maybe typo somewehre
[07:35] <r3za> hey , is there anyone know how to fix this bug of 11.10 : http://goo.gl/TZ2D9
[07:36] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:36] <peggys_mouse> anyone? I can't click on the "Unlock" button on the system settings pages. I could a few days ago. there have been a lot of updates recently. i thought one of them might be responsible. also, i changed my user name (via the gui) using the Unlock. perhaps the system no longer thinks i'm the user that has the admin privileges?
[07:36] <bucky> that's not a bug... that's a feature!
[07:36] <tresk> arunce: oh I see something the "auto eth0" was missing...
[07:37] <r3za> bucky: what do u mean , everytime i switch my desktop it appear !
[07:37] <r3za> bucky: when i select to move a program , u were right , but everytime .. no its a bug !
[07:37] <tresk> arunce: but it'll be nice to randomize the process with macchanger eg. ... but first I try this
[07:38] <yamahaalex37> best linux ebook reader?
[07:38] <MahaVishnu> tresk$ what you trying to do exactly ?
[07:39] <namoamitabuddha> Hi, guys
[07:39] <namoamitabuddha> Is laptop-mode-tools needed now?
[07:39] <DaZ> yamahaalex37: as in pdf reader? :f
[07:41] <sokak> hello everyone :)
[07:42] <MahaVishnu> hello sokak ;-)
[07:42] <yamahaalex37> what is apt-get for flash?
[07:42] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37$ you know... you could google some of these questions :-)
[07:42] <sokak> question. Can be a good idea to start within a script on startup applications leaking memory, and kill them with a cronjob at regular intervals, using a killall -15?
[07:42] <almoxarife>  Lynda.com.HTML5.Graphics.an ... nvas-QUASAR <-- does it run on ubuntu?
[07:43] <almoxarife> yamahaalex37: or ask linda.com?
[07:43] <shark_eye_> Hello
[07:43] <shark_eye_> I can't install Google Chrome on Ubuntu 11.10 (x64)
[07:43] <yamahaalex37> so i cant...
[07:43] <shark_eye_> How can I solve this problem?
[07:44] <MahaVishnu> shark_eye_$ what error?
[07:44] <shark_eye_> MahaVishnu, Wait please
[07:44] <shark_eye_> I will try 'dpkg'
[07:44] <MahaVishnu> btw the package is chromium-browser on ubuntu
[07:44] <sokak> Am i doing it wrong? killalling with -15 is a bad idea?
[07:45] <yeehaw> Sokak: Why don't you use kill -9 pid
[07:45] <yeehaw> ?
[07:46] <sokak> Im unsure about what put on the minus - i have stuff leaking, and i would like to send just the term signal, not kill them abruptly
[07:47] <peggys_mouse> anyone know why my unlock button, say on the date and time settings, might be greyed out? it wasn't a few days ago.
[07:47] <sokak> yeehaw, one of the guilty is docky, i kill it on cronjob and let it respawn, is launched by a script
[07:48] <sokak> since it may happen multiple instances of what i wanted to kill, i thought of killall
[07:50] <yeehaw> hmm.. wel you could us that. Or you could create a deamon for the program and create a cronjob: /etc/init.d/service stop
[07:50] <sokak> that exceeds my shell fu :|
[07:51] <yeehaw> What kind of program is it?
[07:51] <sokak> shame on me, im using a gui to not mess my crontab u///u
[07:51] <sokak> yeehaw, one of my next candidates is gwibber - seems to love to chew my ram.
[07:52] <yeehaw> Well, I really hate thiking of crons too. So mostly I use a caclulator
[07:52] <sokak> yeehaw, im fine with calculating, its just that seems i cant avoid typos when its time
[07:52] <yeehaw> :P
[07:53] <sokak> i feeel guitarded sometimes :|
[07:53] <yeehaw> what happens if you use services gwibber-daemon stop
[07:53] <sokak> yeehaw, i like were you weregoing, making demons, any tut on it?
[07:54] <yeehaw> or /etc/init.d/gwibber-daemon stop
[07:54] <yeehaw> Google tells me the daemon already existst
[07:54] <sokak> yeah that init.d stuff, any tut for tards outta here?
[07:54] <yeehaw> -s
[07:54] <yeehaw> try  running /etc/init.d/gwibber-daemon -status in shell
[07:55] <sokak> so basically, i can put in crontab a daemon stop like each .10, and a daemon start each .11 right?
[07:55] <yeehaw> or /etc/init.d/unity-gwibber-daemon
[07:55] <sokak> hehe old maverick here :P
[07:55] <yeehaw> What happens if you run /etc/init.d/gwibber-dameon right now?
[07:56] <sokak> says it doesnt exist, i should investigate further.
[07:57] <yeehaw> hmm.
[07:59] <yeehaw> writing your own daemon, would require you to have some programming konowledge
[07:59] <yeehaw> http://www.netzmafia.de/skripten/unix/linux-daemon-howto.html
[07:59] <auronandace> sokak: did you spell it right?
[08:00] <yeehaw> Else go to /etc/init.d
[08:00] <yeehaw> ls -la | grep gwibber
[08:00] <yeehaw> or something
[08:00] <sokak> yeah auronandace , prolly i just need to try a fresher gwibber, maverick bears with an old one. The ppa for docky fixed many thing, i should give a look for gwibber as well.
[08:06] <Jon--> Slightly off topic - When I ssh into a FreeBSD box using PuTTY, I am able to do the following: Hit a character or two, press up arrow, receive only commands beginning with those few characters. Is this a feature of the OS/shell? If not, and it is a feature of PuTTY, how can I get similar functionality in gnome-terminal?
[08:06] <sokak> yay, the ppa version is much snappier
[08:07] <sokak> Jon--, use the almighty tab key
[08:07] <goddard> anyone have some time to help debug an issue ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display/87370#87370
[08:08] <Jon--> sokak, That's not quite what I mean. Up arrow deals with history, that is what I want.
[08:08] <Jon--> Ex, python lol.py  do 10 more commands  on PuTTY I can do 'py *up arrow*', and as long as python lol.py is still in history, it'll auto-complete that, last executed first
[08:09] <sokak> oh nope i guess then, i has standard history
[08:09] <Jon--> I don't think it's implemented with history. I have a feeling it's the shell.
[08:09] <Jon--> Well, the client, more accurately*
[08:10] <shark_eye> I was try 'dpkg', and very good
[08:11] <sokak> Jon--, have a look at this http://blog.macromates.com/2008/working-with-history-in-bash/
[08:11] <Jon--> sokak, I run tcsh at work, I highly doubt tcsh is more feature-rich than bash. I have a feeling it's implemented by the shell client, in this case putty.
[08:12] <sokak> i see your point, just all i was able to google about
[08:12] <sokak> when i dont know, i try to find
[08:12] <Jon--> You'd think gnome-terminal would have something like this
[08:12] <Jon--> Ever since getting used to it, it's hard to go back to not having it
[08:12] <Jon--> Hell of a lot faster than h | grep
[08:12] <Jon--> Or pressing up arrow 20 damn times
[08:13] <Jon--> sokak, Thanks for your assistance anyway
[08:13] <sokak> yw, i love to try at least :)
[08:16] <sokak> Jon--, idiotic question - if you try a echo $SHELL in your putty session, what comes out?
[08:16] <shark_eye> Bye
[08:17] <Jon--> sokak, I'm not at work. 90% sure it'd be tcsh
[08:17] <Jon--> Either tcsh or sh
[08:19] <sokak> Then, pardon me if im saying a bestiality Jon-- you should be able to change defaout bash to plain bourne, am i wrong?
[08:19] <Jon--> I'm not following
[08:20] <Jon--> You might be right about it being a feature of the shell. I just find it difficult to believe that that's implemented in tcsh on FreeBSD by default. That would be pretty sweet.
[08:21] <sokak> only god knows :|
[08:23] <doritoDan> Could not download all repository indexes
[08:23] <MahaVishnu> anyone good with bash give me an example of a script that moves folders with a certain file .extension from a dir to a new specified dir ??
[08:24] <doritoDan> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-2d-team/unity-2d-daily/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[08:24] <doritoDan> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:24] <doritoDan> Any ideas?
[08:24] <sokak> MahaVishnu, tried yet to peep at commandlinefu.com for that?
[08:26] <faLUCE>  hi. DId anyone install mysql in a chroot environment on ubuntu? I have this problem:   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5056710/running-mysql-in-chroot   and I don't understand how to solve it
[08:31] <MahaVishnu> sokak$ found this.. mv `find .zip ./` .     but its move all files with common extension to current folder. I want to specify the folder
[08:31] <Jon--> doritoDan, You have a PPA which is currently down.
[08:32] <doritoDan> OK.
[08:32] <doritoDan> What can I do about it?
[08:32] <sokak> MahaVishnu, which folder you want to move them to?
[08:32] <Jon--> I'd just wait, it's unity, I'm sure it won't 404 for long
[08:32] <conntrack> Hi
[08:32] <sokak> hi conntrack
[08:32] <doritoDan> Oh.
[08:33] <doritoDan> That sucks. :(
[08:33] <doritoDan> But thanks.
[08:33] <FloodBot1> doritoDan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <tga> greetings
[08:33] <DaZ> MahaVishnu: you want to do it recursively?
[08:34] <tga> does anybody happen to know about getting the VMware tools fully working on a Ubuntu guest?
[08:34] <tga> with shared folders and all
[08:34] <MahaVishnu> sokak$ like I have a folder. /hd2/Downloads and I will have music files extension .FLAC I want to move them to /hd2/Music when I choose with an easy command/script. while preserving there folders/structure.
[08:34] <MahaVishnu> sokak the .FLAC files will be in folders I mean and I want to keep the folder names just move them to /hd2/Music but only folders with .FLAC files in them sry if this is confusing.
[08:34] <MahaVishnu> DaZ$ see my second statement above for clarity ^
[08:34] <FloodBot1> MahaVishnu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:35] <sokak> MahaVishnu, thats pretty clear. The answer wil be a mess ;)
[08:35] <arlo> are there a people some can help me with apache problem
[08:36] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, I'll write a one liner for you, hold on
[08:36] <theadmin> arlo: #httpd might be a better place for that
[08:37] <arlo> Cannot send to channel: #httpd theadmin
[08:37] <arlo> i write in this forum
[08:37] <arlo> but i can not
[08:37] <theadmin> arlo: You need to register
[08:37] <arlo> where?
[08:37] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, cd somedir; find . -type f -name \*.FLAC -exec mv {} /hd2/Music \;
[08:37] <arlo> with nickserver but how?
[08:37] <Jon--> Oh wait, you want to move entire directories that have flac files?
[08:38] <arlo> im use freenode.net
[08:38] <Jon--> That's slightly different
[08:38] <ikonia> !register | arlo
[08:38] <Jon--> One sec
[08:38] <MahaVishnu> Jon--$ sweet.
[08:39] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, That won't preserve directories
[08:39] <MahaVishnu> what will it do?
[08:39] <Jon--> It will move all .FLAC files into /hd2/Music
[08:40] <Jon--> Give me a minute, I'm working on what you asked for.
[08:40] <sokak> kudos Jon-- i think i will make use of it as well :)
[08:40] <faLUCE>  hi. DId anyone install mysql in a chroot environment on ubuntu? I have this problem:   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5056710/running-mysql-in-chroot   and I don't understand how to solve it
[08:41] <Jon--> I'm not sure I can make such a sexy one-liner anymore ;)
[08:41] <MahaVishnu> Jon--$ a script is better for me anyway
[08:41] <MahaVishnu> so I can bash alias it to a single letter command.
[08:41] <Jon--> It shouldn't be too hard though. Just need a pipe or two.
[08:42] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, You can place this in a script bro...
[08:43] <Jon--> If you plan on executing this multiple times, I suggest rsync instead, though since it's a mv and not a cp, it's not that important
[08:43] <ensi> hi
[08:43] <happygolucky> ensi: hello
[08:43] <ensi> i've installed openjdk-6-jdk but i have no javac or other java tools
[08:43] <theadmin> Jon--: rsync has a --remove-synced-files (or something) flag so you can make it act like mv
[08:44] <ensi> update-alternatives --config java says "no config"
[08:44] <Jon--> I can write this, I'm feeling lazy though.
[08:44] <ensi> whats the trick?
[08:44] <MahaVishnu> Yeah I forgot you don't need to change it.
[08:44] <MahaVishnu> I don't script too much.
[08:44] <Jon--> It doesn't require a ton of man-page hunting
[08:44] <theadmin> Jon--: What's the goal anyway? I might do it
[08:44] <sokak> I feel you :) Whenever i have a bullseye oneliner, i note it down as a personal pride
[08:45] <sokak> my script fu is really low
[08:45] <MahaVishnu> theadmin$ move all folders in one dir with .FLAC files in them onky. to a second dir
[08:45] <DaZ> MahaVishnu: you have the script already?
[08:45] <Jon--> theadmin, He wants to find all sub dirs containing *.flac and move those directories recursively into some other directory
[08:45] <theadmin> Jon--: Hm, interesting...
[08:45] <DaZ> find -name "*.c" -exec mkdir -p /home/daz/derp/{} \; -exec mv {} /home/daz/derp/{} \; this did more or less what you want for me
[08:45] <DaZ> just obviously replace .d with .flac and directories with what you want.
[08:46] <Jon--> DaZ, that's ugly
[08:46] <Jon--> I'm making one now, hold on
[08:46] <MahaVishnu> DaZ$ my dirs already exist ?
[08:46] <DaZ> hurdur
[08:46] <DaZ> but it works [;
[08:46] <sokak> lol
[08:46]  * theadmin tries to refresh on her Perl skills because it seems to complicated to do with Bash...
[08:46] <happygolucky> ensi: i'm not a developer, did you try in programming or java groups--if there are any on freenode..
[08:46] <sokak> yeah, bash can be a biash
[08:47] <MahaVishnu> I feel like it would be very ez to do with bash wouldn't it ?
[08:47] <ensi> happygolucky: seems to more like an environment thingy
[08:48] <Madkiss> hi there. I'm looking for the swift-auth-add-user binary in oneiric; can somebody please tell me where it hides?
[08:49] <theadmin> !find swift-auth-add-user
[08:49] <theadmin> Madkiss: ^
[08:49] <Jon--> Can you pipe to rsync?
[08:49] <Jon--> I'm nearly done
[08:50] <theadmin> Jon--: If it can read stdin in some way, sure...
[08:51] <Jon--> theadmin, Example? I have a list of directories with flac files, want to pass to rsync via a pipe
[08:51] <sokak> mv cant do the job?
[08:52] <theadmin> Jon--: Meh, no rsync fan myself and I can't find anything related in the manpage
[08:53] <Arnold> Madkiss, I'm guessing it would be located either in the 'swiss' or 'swiss-account' package.
[08:54] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, Here's a start anyway: find . -type f -name '*.flac' |sed 's#\(.*\)/.*#\1#' | sort -ur
[08:54] <Jon--> That gives you a list of directories recursively from the current directory which contain .flac files.
[08:54] <Jon--> (and sorts them)
[08:54] <MahaVishnu> yes it does.
[08:55] <MahaVishnu> is it easy to alphabetize that. if not don't worry. and thanks for that code! ill keep it in a safe place.
[08:56] <theadmin> Woah... That looks messy xD
[08:56] <goddard> anyone have some time to help debug an issue ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display/87370#87370
[08:56] <sokak> snippet sniped :3
[08:56] <MahaVishnu> lol sokak
[08:56] <MahaVishnu> ;-)
[08:57] <MahaVishnu> yea that code looks like space alien to me.
[08:57] <sokak> if its bash code, its my treasssure
[08:57] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, It's just sniping out the directory from the output of find
[08:57] <Klopeco> morning,it is possible to block network manager notification (the gconf key "don't send notif when disconnected" don't work)
[08:58] <Jon--> and placing them on new lines, of course
[08:58] <sokak> Jon--, one thing i never was able to was the abstract - once i have the snippet, i can "see".
[08:58] <Madkiss> Arnold: they're both installed, and it's not there :(
[08:58] <Linuxnut> I'm working on project to help get rid of spammers and bots if you would like to help, visit my page here http://hak-lab.co.nr/
[08:58] <theadmin> Linuxnut: Um, that's spam ;)
[08:58] <llutz_> Linuxnut: now lets get rid of you
[08:58] <sokak> my pipes gets all twisted :/
[08:58] <tresk> arunce: !'m back and now it's working. The solution was simply add a new script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d ... strange I thought I had it before.
[08:59] <ikonia> Linuxnut: you've been told the topic of this channel enough times, no more warnings
[08:59] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh, (s)he did that before? Didn't know.
[08:59] <Klopeco> how to associate a proxy config with a wifi network?
[09:00] <iceroot> Klopeco: as you do on a non-wifi-network
[09:00] <sokak> oh Gods of the script fu! x3 Anyone knowing how i can properly add a nautilus menu that triggers a selection of emblems to pick from *only for certain filetypes*? (or a tut that is understandable?)
[09:01] <Klopeco> iceroot: I have multiple SSID with multiple proxy config
[09:02] <Arnold> Madkiss, uh oh. That file was pretty much stored in swift-auth package, in the earlier versions of Ubuntu, like 11.10 (when it was Swift 1.0.2
[09:02] <Arnold> 10.10*
[09:03] <Arnold> From 11.04 and 11.10, the entire packages were updated to 1.3.0, and because of that (perhaps), the swift-auth package is to be found nowhere.
[09:03] <Jon--> what did I miss? damn wireless is spotty in my room
[09:04] <iceroot> Klopeco: maybe dhcp can handle something like that? i dont know
[09:04] <goddard> anyone tried out 0 A.D ?
[09:04] <goddard> sweet linux game
[09:05] <goddard> reminds me of Age of Empires
[09:05] <Madkiss> Arnold: well, nevertheless, that command is somewhat, uhm, important ;)
[09:05] <iceroot> goddard: sounds good, i will have a look at it
[09:05] <Madkiss> it's not the actual package, it's rather binary
[09:05] <goddard> iceroot: yeah its alpha but is gonna be good
[09:05] <MahaVishnu> Jon--$ any ideas on a way to pipe that list of dirs to a move command?
[09:06] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, This should work: find . -type f -name '*.flac' -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} mv {} /hd2/Music
[09:06] <Jon--> Whoa
[09:06] <Jon--> MahaVishnu, This should work: find . -type f -name '*.flac' -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} mv {} /hd2/Music/
[09:06] <sokak> sniped :3
[09:06] <Jon--> Note that not all OSes support {} notation with xargs
[09:06] <MahaVishnu> does ubuntu ?
[09:07] <Jon--> (More accurately - not all versions of xargs support it)
[09:07] <Jon--> Yes
[09:07] <MahaVishnu> ok thats all I need let me test it out for you.
[09:07] <Jon--> Do me a favour and read some man pages
[09:07] <MahaVishnu> I do read man pages :D
[09:07] <Jon--> Understand what that command does
[09:07] <Jon--> Before you use it
[09:07] <MahaVishnu> I was reading about find
[09:07] <MahaVishnu> but all I could get it to do was list all the .FLAC files in a dir
[09:07] <MahaVishnu> not the dirs containing flac :-\
[09:08] <Jon--> Oh shoot
[09:08] <Jon--> I think I fucked up.
[09:08] <Jon--> Did you run that?
[09:08] <MahaVishnu> not yet
[09:08] <Jon--> Good.
[09:08] <MahaVishnu> lmao...
[09:08] <Jon--> Test it out by making a random directory
[09:08] <Jon--> like ~/test
[09:08] <MahaVishnu> good idea
[09:08] <frogzoo> grrr upgrade to 11.10 stopped ZTE MF6273 3G usb modem from working - again - this is getting real old
[09:09] <Jon--> cd ~/test mkdir x y z touch somefile.flac in each, etc.
[09:09] <Arnold> Madkiss, maybe it has been replaced with a newer command?
[09:09] <MahaVishnu> I have a /home/user/test for just these purposes
[09:11] <MahaVishnu> test like this? find . -type f -name '*.flac' -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} mv {} /home/x/test/blah/
[09:11] <arlo> Anyone can help me with apache problem
[09:11] <Jon--> No
[09:11] <arlo> is take 1 minute with teamwiewer
[09:11] <Jon--> Test by making sure that a recursive call to find won't hit any legitimate flac files on your drive
[09:11] <ikonia> arlo: is this apache problem on ubuntu ?
[09:11] <Jon--> But only testing ones
[09:11] <arlo> Yes