[02:42] <oacy> hello everyone, the dd command to create an image of a drive partition (sdb1) on another drive would be the same as when creating the drive (sdb) image, I guess; 'sudo dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=path/to/image/file bs=...' ?
[02:44] <oacy> in other words, could I just replace sdb with sdb1, when i am imaging not the whole drive, but a partition of it?
[02:54] <thsohn_> Hello World
[02:56] <smokeless> oacy https://askubuntu.com/questions/512059/using-dd-command-to-create-bootable-usb-stick
[03:04] <oacy> smokeless, it is not for booting. it is just a partition image.
[03:06] <dudu> hello
[03:09] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> hey, anyone know how to submit browser based authentication popups?
[03:10] <Guest8401> alguém me lembra como atualizar o ubuntu MATE?
[03:15] <sruli> hi, i want to change the boot order in grub, how can isee the current order while logged in to system?
[03:17] <wileee> sruli, you might run past us what your doing, grub has built in tools.
[03:18] <sruli> wileee:  1. change boot order, 2. not to display grub, just boot into first option and to see grub menu user has to hold down shift or some other key
[03:18] <wileee> sruli, what all is on the computer and in grub?
[03:19] <sruli> wileee:  windows, ubuntu and debain, i want to boot windows
[03:19] <sruli> wileee: and when i wat linux i will hold down shift key on boot
[03:20] <wileee> sruli, Ah, you can set grub to default to windows. The hidden grub is the hard part with multi OS is all, not really sure you can.
[03:21] <wileee> sruli, there is a timeout that grub sits at, messing with smaller times is the general method, you want to get to grub for recovery at the least.
[03:21] <sector_0> hey guys
[03:21] <sector_0> I have a problem with my cd command
[03:21] <isReKT2000> In what way?
[03:21] <sector_0> whenever i use cd I can't "select" files from the new current directory
[03:22] <isReKT2000> Unusual.
[03:22] <sector_0> for example let's say I have a file "file.txt" in the home directory...
[03:22] <isReKT2000> Okay.
[03:22] <sector_0> if I do "cd /home"
[03:22] <sector_0> I can't for example do "vi file.txt"
[03:23] <isReKT2000> then you can't do nano or emacs etc etc
[03:23] <wileee> sruli, What ever OS is at the top of grub has the grub control as of now, the ubuntu or debian assuming nothing has been removed in either with grub.
[03:23] <isReKT2000> is nano working?
[03:24] <sector_0> ok maybe I used a bad example
[03:25] <isReKT2000> maybe; maybe not
[03:25] <zykotick9> sector_0: ahhh cd /home wouldn't be your user's home directory.  try "cd" by itself to get to home.
[03:25] <isReKT2000> good idea zykotick9
[03:25] <wileee> sruli, I suspect your not fully understanding, could be my explanation, ask anything you need to.
[03:25] <sector_0> zykotick9, I know I was just using a example
[03:25] <sector_0> proper example that I just tried...
[03:26] <sector_0> I did "cd ~/Desktop"...
[03:26] <isReKT2000> cd by itself?
[03:26] <sector_0> now there's a folder there named "stuff"
[03:27] <sector_0> normally if I start typing "/stu" and I hit tab it would auto complete..this doesn't happen
[03:27] <SchrodingersScat> sector_0: having a leading / means starting from root
[03:27] <zykotick9> sector_0: don't start with /
[03:27] <sruli> wileee: i dont want a timeout, i know its not easy to do on mulit os boot, but i still dont want grub viewable on boot, when i need it i will hold down the shift key
[03:27] <sector_0> ahhhh
[03:27] <SchrodingersScat> sector_0: it would just be stuff, or ./stuff or ~/Desktop/stuff
[03:28] <sector_0> my bad I guess
[03:28] <sector_0> sorry for the mix up
[03:28] <SchrodingersScat> tab complete wants to help you more than you think :)
[03:28] <wileee> sruli, seems like you been chasing this awhile?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> sruli: A common reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2 , Tutorial to do all you require .
[03:29] <sector_0> Everything is working fine now
[03:29] <sruli> wileee: u might have seen me around with all sorts of quiestion, solved all so far, this is my next issue ;-)
[03:29] <sector_0> ...but I swear to god this thing wasn't working a while ago
[03:30] <SubCool> Audio isnt playing to my HDMI output or USB Turtlebeach headset
[03:30] <SchrodingersScat> sector_0: you may very well have a bad case of ghosts, but regular #ubuntu can't help you there.
[03:30] <wileee> sruli, Mainly I'm trying to keep you away from 3rd party stuff, so I would look here, it has the boot pin for windows info as well, https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[03:30] <sector_0> SchrodingersScat, heheh
[03:31] <sruli> wileee: there are a few third party grub customisers, as u say i keep away
[03:31] <wileee> boot/grub/customizer is a bad choice is all
[03:32] <wileee> cool sruli your smarter than some there, easy trap, heh.
[03:32] <sruli> wileee: it seems on grub2 is easy to achieve, let me have a go, will let u know in a few min
[03:32]  * wileee hides the gui kernel remover
[03:39] <goddard> anyone use entr know if I need to include the -R option for ls?
[03:39] <goddard> or will it understand it needs to go recursively?
[03:41] <sruli> goddard: to display sub dirs u'll have to use -R
[03:43] <Quaker> hello guys
[03:44] <goddard> sruli: right i understand how ls works just not entr
[03:46] <nudoge>
[03:47] <goddard> sruli: when i do ls -R . it works
[03:47] <goddard> sruli: when I do ls -R . | entr echo "file change" it just prints entr: cannot stat '.:': No such file or directory
[03:48] <sruli> goddard: reached my knowladge limit on ls, sorry
[03:52] <Bashing-om> goddard: As a thought, pass to entr the full path  through the pipe ?
[03:53] <goddard> Bashing-om: no dice
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> !ls | goddard
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> goddard: or go to #bash and !ls
[03:59] <goddard> SchrodingersScat: not really asking about ls exactly
[03:59] <goddard> SchrodingersScat: more entr
[04:00] <SchrodingersScat> goddard: try find then?
[04:00] <SchrodingersScat> also, is that maybe an echo error? if it can't echo .:
[04:01] <SchrodingersScat> wait, nvm :(
[04:23] <chris1> jsia
[04:23] <me-1> hi...  I want to edit  /etc/grub.d and add http://paste.ubuntu.com/13245153/ but dont know what to replce in my setup with http://paste.ubuntu.com/13245161/
[04:23] <Quaker> jsia
[04:23] <chris1> where r u guys from
[04:23] <Quaker> i m from france
[04:23] <chris1> oh i m from Malaysia
[04:24] <Ariaoktaviandapu> hey
[04:24] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> is there a way to write a bash script to insert text into a browser popup?
[04:24] <chris1> can i install unity desktop environment in backbox 4.4
[04:25] <Ariaoktaviandapu> ada yg indo???
[04:27] <Ariaoktaviandapu> backbox 4.4
[04:28] <k1l> !backbox | Ariaoktaviandapu
[04:28] <wileee> wa_r_ch_i__ld1, Humor us, why?
[04:29] <Ariaoktaviandapu> i,m not install backbox just kali linux 2.0
[04:29] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> @wileee im trying to embed this NTLM (microsoft auth) protected site, and the end user doesnt want to have to enter their credentials
[04:29] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> id like to have some sort of script to enter the credentials in the popup but dont know if thats even possible
[04:31] <Ariaoktaviandapu> you change localhost in my internet
[04:35] <SchrodingersScat> !info xautomation | wa_r_ch_i__ld1
[04:37] <uRock> I installed the latest kernel in 14.04 using "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid" will removing "linux-headers-generic" stop me from getting the 3.13.* kernel updates?
[04:39] <SchrodingersScat> wa_r_ch_i__ld1: if you really wanted to you could make patterns of the popup, have it scan for that in the screen, click it, type in the password, etc. Although wmctrl may make selecting it easier if not already, and then tabs to find the password box and submission button.
[04:39] <k1l> !kali | Ariaoktaviandapu
[04:39] <k1l> kali is not even based on ubuntu. please seek their support
[04:40] <sruli> wileee: i managed to get hidden grub on dual boot
[04:40] <wileee> sruli, cool, how?
[04:44] <sruli> combination of things, 1. in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober the template has something like " if timeout set = 0 then set 10" so what ever u don in etc/default/grub it will get overwritten on update-grub, so i changed to 'set 0' 2. I added 2 entries on /etc/defualt/grub/ GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU=true and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden, i dont know if those 2 entried had any effect as i only got it working after fixing the os-prober template
[04:48] <wileee> sruli, Did you update grub after the additional commands?
[04:49] <TJ-> sruli: You almost got it but made the wrong change. That "timeout=10" is only written into grub.cfg *if* quick_boot =1 - 12 lines above your change is quick_boot="1". Change that to quick_boot="0" and the timeout won't be changed, nor will the timeout_style
[04:52] <aarobc> so, according to this guide http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/how-to-setup-a-gaming-virtual-machine-with-gpu-passthrough-qemu-kvm-libvirt-and-vfio.1371980/ there should be a /usr/share/qemu/bios.bin but I've installed everything possibly relating to qemu and there still is no bios.bin to be found in that directory
[04:52] <SubCool> Ok, would someone mind working with me on Dropbox. I am using it in a headless environement, but its acting all weird. I remove all the files http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583040  - but. it still isnt woring properly. When i try to use it after setup, it doesnt start, restart - anything.
[04:53] <SubCool> ive done apt-get, ive done the headless installation. im about to do a remote ver upgrade of my OS, WHich i doubt will work. but- im trying.
[04:53] <sruli> wileee: yes i updates grub after changes
[04:53] <sruli> TJ-: i will try that now, u are tlkaing about os-prober file, right?
[04:55] <sruli> TJ-: what about GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU=true and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden are they required?
[05:00] <TJ-> sruli: yes, that file. if you look at that stanza, the settings are only written into grub.cfg (by the cat <<EOF) in adjust_timeout() when "if [ "$quick_boot" = 1 ] && [ "x${found_other_os}" != "x" ];" - both conditions need to be TRUE. so force quick_boot = 0 and the condition will never be true
[05:00] <sruli> TJ-: what about GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU=true and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden are they required?
[05:01] <TJ-> sruli: I'm not entirely sure, there are so many permutations it gets confusing without testing them :D
[05:01] <wileee> hallelujah says the chorus
[05:01] <TJ-> sruli: GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden would normally be set that way
[05:01] <sruli> also i guess setting i made is good to hide the grub, but i cant get it by pressing any key ! have to boot live cd not and change
[05:02] <TJ-> sruli: right, always best to set the timeout=1 so Shift is still detected
[05:03] <sruli> TJ-: but i do not want the menu visable, i set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3
[05:03] <me-1> hi.. I dont see grub menu at start
[05:05] <wileee> me-1, See anything at all, shift may show something esc if W8-10
[05:06] <sruli> TJ-: i have 2 entries for quick_boot =1, i should set both to 0?
[05:07] <me-1> wileee,  no blank black screen and then ubuntu logo and it boots directly into ubuntu . I dont have other OS
[05:07] <TJ-> sruli: it depends on what code generation they control
[05:08] <wileee> me-1, try running sudo update-grub to bring it up to date. Have you changed grub or removed another OS?
[05:09] <me-1> wileee,  I have updated it and it doing the same from day 1
[05:09] <sruli> the fist one is in the begining of the file, prefix="/usr" exec_prefix="/usr" datarootdir="/usr/share" quick_boot="0
[05:09] <TJ-> sruli: looking at the code in 00_header and 10_linux, quick_boot won't affect 'timeout' there
[05:09] <wileee> me-1, Err, my error, when you have just ubuntu you need to hit the shift key to see grub, or esc if uefi.
[05:10] <wileee> grub is bypassed with single installs, you have to key it up
[05:10] <me-1> wileee,  ok try and see . thank you
[05:10] <TJ-> me-1: how many monitors do you have?
[05:10] <wileee> no prob, sorry for any confusion.
[05:10] <me-1> TJ-,  one
[05:10] <TJ-> me-1: OK
[05:11] <sruli> TJ-: so what do i change to allow key press to show grub?
[05:11] <aarobc> shift
[05:12] <sruli> tired shift, doesnt show
[05:12] <sruli> also tried esc
[05:12] <TJ-> sruli: when do you press the key?
[05:13] <TJ-> sruli: because the transition from firmware POST to GRUB is so fast, I generally hold shift down whilst POST is still reporting so its down when GRUB gets control
[05:14] <sruli> i hold it down fro the start
[05:14] <TJ-> sruli: Is it UEFI or BIOS?
[05:14] <sruli> UEFI
[05:14] <havoc-hive> I am running ubuntu 15.10 on a optiplex 745. I threw in a linsys usb wifi and cannot get it to work. any help or suggestions?
[05:14] <TJ-> sruli: is the keyboard USB or built-in
[05:15] <sruli> built in , laptop
[05:15] <TJ-> sruli: OK, none of the obvious issues there, then
[05:15] <TJ_> GUYS I NEED HELP, but there are so many channels.  I need help with unencrypting my home directory from a ubunu live.
[05:15] <TJ_> the command doesnt work...
[05:15] <TJ_> What channel should I join?
[05:16] <sruli> TJ_: what command r u running to mount it?
[05:16] <TJ_> The one it says to do, one sec
[05:16] <TJ-> sruli: Sometimes, on some laptops, the key codes seem to mess things up. Try Ctrl as well :)
[05:16] <TJ_> ecryptfs-mount-private
[05:16] <TJ_> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[05:17] <TJ-> TJ_: "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /target/home/.ecryptfs/${USER}/.Private" - assuming you've mounted the root file-system at /target/
[05:17] <sruli> TJ-: ctrl doesnt do it either
[05:17] <havoc-hive> TJ_: i dont think you can unencrypt home in live mode, only in installed
[05:17] <TJ-> sruli: weird!
[05:18] <TJ-> havoc-hive: yes you can!
[05:18] <sruli>  TJ_: what response do u get?
[05:18] <TJ_> Well sruli, It didnt say error
[05:19] <TJ_> It says Seraching for encrypted private directories
[05:19] <sruli>  TJ_: does it say searching for encrypted....
[05:19] <TJ_> Yeah Its asking for my password
[05:19] <sruli> TJ_: and it stays at that?
[05:19] <sruli> TJ_: ther eu go enter ur password
[05:20] <TJ_> It said sucess but I still cant go in through GUI :(
[05:20] <lickalott> Hey all.  Had an odd issue today.  I have a 32" tv that I decided to try to use as a monitor.  I tried VGA which works okay but it's not digital.  So I tried HDMI.  Even with the same resolution the desktop won't fit in the tv screen.  The launcher is off the screen.  Is there a way to correct this?  I don't have a scaling option on this particular tv.
[05:20] <TJ_> If It mounted like it says where did it mount too?
[05:20] <sruli> in unity dash enter gksu nautilus
[05:21] <TJ-> TJ_: usually under /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX/
[05:21] <TJ_> Oh I see it now
[05:21] <TJ_> that part was covered by the irc
[05:21] <TJ_> Let me see what I got
[05:21] <TJ_> AWESOME
[05:22] <TJ_> THANKS A TON
[05:22] <TJ_> I was about to shoot my computer
[05:22] <TJ_> Yeah my computer wouldnt start it said that something was wrong with the graphics
[05:22] <TJ_> I could only boot up in live
[05:23] <TJ_> I could get through the disk encryption but not home
[05:23] <TJ_> thanks guys
[05:25] <sruli> TJ_: how could u get throught eh disk encryption?
[05:26] <TJ-> sruli: I assume TJ_ meant LUKS/dm_crypt root file-system
[05:29] <sruli> TJ-: i changed the template to quick boot on live cd, wierd thing is running update-grub on live cd removes windows from grub menu
[05:29] <TJ-> sruli: is os-prober running?
[05:30] <TJ-> sruli: you can run it manually to test it "sudo os-prober"
[05:30] <sruli> TJ-: not sure, running update-grub from normal boot noew
[05:32] <sruli> setting timeout to 0 in os-prober does not allow grub menu at all
[05:32] <sruli> TJ-: is there a way i can test grub changes without a restart?
[05:32] <john_nash> hi, somehow my kid pressed some keys as a result of which everytime i press a key it says the same aloud
[05:33] <john_nash> lol, how to disable that sound?
[05:33] <OerHeks> john_nash, Insert+Q to quit orca reader
[05:34] <john_nash> where is insert
[05:34] <Giraffe_> not a full keyboard john_nash?
[05:34] <OerHeks> ins,next to del
[05:34] <sruli> john_hash: settings > Universal Access > Seeing > turn off Screen reader
[05:35] <TJ-> sruli: there's the emulator but that takes a heck of a lot of setting up
[05:35] <sruli> TJ-: so we'll stick to the 5 minute cycle on every test
[05:37] <john_nash> thanks its done
[05:37] <john_nash> so dumb of me
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> john_nash: we all here to learn mate
[05:39] <sruli> TJ-: how can i upadte-grub from live cd to include windows?
[05:39] <OerHeks> john_nash, so your kid has a high iq, have fun
[05:39] <john_nash> thanks :)
[05:46] <breakfronts> After setting my GTK appearance, gnome-terminal doesn't seem to be adjusting to it
[05:47] <lickalott> Anyone?
[05:48] <sruli> lickalott: no clue, sorry
[05:51] <Joanne> hello
[05:51] <Joanne> anybody on Ubuntu 15.10? I left the topic yesterday, had to move out
[05:52] <Joanne> If I delete any file using any file manager (and if the directory is a softlink), the file manager crashes
[05:54] <ussher_> Im finding my i7 with 16gig of ram and SSD becomes real slow by the end of the day and trying to figure out why.  when scrolling it uses 99% of cpu of 1 processor: (htop screenshot) http://hostsaba.com/htop.png how can i figure out why?
[05:55] <wileee> ussher_, you scrolled htop?
[05:55] <Joanne> X is killing your CPU, taking 99%
[05:55] <sruli> ussher_: what hardware brand? (laptop / pc)
[05:56] <ussher_> scrolling phpstorm.  in the morining its lightning fast, in the afternoon its horrible
[05:57] <ussher_> hardware is bits and pieces put together.  graphic cards are 2x nvidia cards. going to look for other stuff now
[05:57] <Joanne> try getting a dstat report, if system is still slow, can you get sensors output?
[05:57] <breakfronts> My GTK3 theme settings are being ignored despite setting them with lxapperence and having a .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini present. What could be the problem? GTK2 works fine.
[05:58] <Joanne> In my experience, leave the default GTK theme as much as possible, there are tons of GTK themes available for free in the market, however, the one that works the best is always the best
[05:58] <Joanne> not many people program GTK themes/icons the right way and it always breaks stuff
[05:59] <Joanne> and this wasn't a problem back for GTK2.x
[05:59] <ussher_> hardinfo report http://hostsaba.com/hardinfo_report.html
[05:59] <Joanne> its for GTK 3.x ... hasn't matured so much, and its still new
[06:03] <breakfronts> Joanne: I can't change my font of theme at *all*
[06:03] <breakfronts> that's an issue
[06:03] <mascot66991> Sorry if its not relevant for this irc beforehand
[06:04] <mascot66991> I had like to branch a development branch at my bitbucket repo how do i do that
[06:05] <mascot66991> i already have a development brnach at local and want another one as i am working on two different features and want to make different pull request for each and want commits to say different
[06:05] <mascot66991> anyone to the rescue
[06:06] <havoc-hive> i am having trouble install a usb wifi onto ubuntu 15.10. anyone with suggestions?
[06:06] <Ben64> havoc-hive: can you give more details? what problems are you having, which adapter is it
[06:07] <havoc-hive> Ben64: the adapter is a linksys wusb6300 and i am having problems with is showing up in any form on ubuntu
[06:08] <havoc-hive> Ben64: i dont think it is regestering at all with the computer cause its not even lighting up on the stick
[06:08] <havoc-hive> Ben64: the computer i am installing it on has no connection to internet at all
[06:08] <breakfronts>  My GTK3 theme settings are being ignored despite setting them with lxapperence and having a .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini present. What could be the problem? GTK2 works fine.
[06:13] <havoc-hive> can anyone help walk me through on making a bridge connection between laptop and desktop?
[06:17] <ussher_> sruli: that hardware info any use?  I tried to use dstat to watch the cpu, but it doesnt seam to change at all even with htop saying 99%
[06:18] <sruli> some times with brands like toshiba and sony i get high cpu and could'nt resolve
[06:19] <ussher_> my guess is its something to do with the graphics cards, but dont know how to figure out how to fix it. Not sure how to identify what the cause is.
[06:20] <ussher_> The current solution of rebooting in the middle of the day is getting to be a bit of a pain, so was hoping to try to fix it.
[06:20] <Ben64> havoc-hive: seems like you'd need to download an compile a driver for that adapter
[06:22] <karex_> Hi everyone, what files should I get/extract to analize system security (access, etc)? I tried to google it, but not succeeded yet.
[06:22] <karex_> I mean log files
[06:23] <karex_> Is there a list of common log files to analize in practice?
[06:24] <fs> hello
[06:25] <ussher_> karex_: /var/log/auth.log will show you whos been trying to access your machine.
[06:25] <havoc-hive> Ben64: I figured out how to bridge the connections. I found the drivers and how to install them through terminal. I will do that... thanks
[06:26] <fs> 你好
[06:33] <Lucax> Hello, I want to transfer my files to my Seagate external drive, 3T but now I read that Ubuntu 32 bit is not able to connect with a seagate drive larger than 2.2T, is there a workaround without reinstalling to a 64?
[06:34] <Quaker> you can try to make an ftp server
[06:34] <Quaker> if you have a second computer it can work
[06:34] <Quaker> but from what to where Lucax
[06:35] <Lucax> practically what is happening is: the Seagate will appear, but I can not create new folders or drag and drop folders from my computer onto the external
[06:35] <somsip> Lucax: boot to a live cd that's 64 bit, mount your local drive and your external drive, copy
[06:35] <Lucax> Quaker: from my local drive to seagate external
[06:35] <EriC^^> why can't a 32bit access it? O.o
[06:36] <wowa_s> Invalid AABB aabb
[06:36] <somsip> EriC^^: yeah, I don't get that either but maybe it's a real thing
[06:36] <wowa_s> what?
[06:36] <Quaker> yes he s right from a live cd you can do it
[06:36] <wowa_s> /join #333
[06:37] <Lucax> I dont know really what is the problem, but the ext-drive won't take the files from my drive + the option of creating a new folder is greyed out
[06:37] <Quaker> i dont understand why an external harddrive plugged with USB cant connect
[06:37] <somsip> Lucax: so it's just mounted without write permissions then?
[06:37] <Lucax> perhaps
[06:37] <Quaker> chmod
[06:38] <trijntje> This is a bit of a vague question, so I'd be happy with a vague answer. I have two laptops with the same make and model, both running 14.04. On one, a particular bioinformatics analysis takes 40 hours to run, on the other it only takes 6 hours. Does anyone have any pointer on where to start looking for an explanation?
[06:39] <Lucax> somsip, how to change the write permissions?
[06:39] <Lucax> maybe it is read only
[06:39] <nils17> hi. I want to batch rename some folders I am finding with FIND... and cut off the last 4 characters away from these folders names.. how can I do that?  (e.g. folder1abcd leads to folder1)
[06:39] <somsip> Lucax: you should really change the way it's mounted, but once it is mounted you can usually get access using chmod
[06:40] <EriC^^> nils17: are the last 4 chars the same?
[06:40] <Quaker> trijntje, hd speed ?
[06:40] <trijntje> nils17: with the cut command ;)
[06:40] <somsip> Lucax: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138878/changing-file-permissions-on-usb-external-hard-drive
[06:40] <Lucax> Nils! install Pyrenamer, it is excelent
[06:40] <Lucax> or GPRename, it is equally helpful
[06:41] <trijntje> Quaker: I hadn't thought of that, thanks. They do have the same model harddisk, but pretty new so one could be having issues
[06:41] <nils17> hi.. its for use in a script.. so terminal would be cool..
[06:41] <trijntje> though the analysis is not very IO dependent
[06:41] <nils17> e.g.   find / -type d -exec ..................................
[06:42] <EriC^^> nils17: are the last 4 chars the same?
[06:42] <nils17> yes.. in THIS case they are the same.. but I asked about "last 4 characters" to learn about that
[06:43] <Lucax> When I want to mount my Seagate Ext-drive I get this: mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/usb-Seagate_Backup+_Desk_NA5K6YRY-0:0-part1
[06:43] <Lucax> ??
[06:43] <hateball> !sudo | Lucax
[06:43] <nils17> trijntje: yes.. can you help me combine the cut command with find / exec / mv ?
[06:43] <Quaker> trijntje, does it have many programs running ?
[06:44] <hateball> nils17: you can use the rename command as well, it accepts regexp
[06:44] <nils17> I know that at the moment:   find / -type d -exec mv {}
[06:44] <nils17> and THEN??
[06:45] <trijntje> Quaker: I dont think so, its a pretty standard install as far as I know, I haven't added a lot of services or anything like that
[06:45] <trijntje> nils17: you should probably take some time to read about bash, this channel isn't really the place for these kind of basic questions
[06:46] <hateball> nils17: Also there is #bash which may be helpful
[06:47] <Lucax> to run as sudo, does it simply mean to type the sudo command in terminal and pop! I have authority to do whatever I like, like mounting my ext-drive?
[06:48] <EriC^^> yes
[06:52] <Lucax> does $ mean that I am running as Sudo?
[06:52] <Lucax> and does Superuser and Sudo mean the same?
[07:01] <jeff_> 你好
[07:01] <jeff_> 是我
[07:01] <fs_wsf> 你好啊
[07:01] <linux> hello
[07:01] <somsip> !zh | jeff_ fs_wsf
[07:01] <linux> 哈哈哈
[07:02] <linux> ^_^
[07:02] <linux> o(∩∩)o
[07:02] <fs> 吴老师好 】
[07:02] <linux> 丁甲真傻逼
[07:03] <EriC^^> !ops | multiple nicks from <IP_ADDRESS> flooding in chinese
[07:03] <xiaoyu> xiaoyu come
[07:07] <Lucax> how to mount my drive as sudo, I dont get why this should be so difficult, isnt there a simple GUI solution for beginners, to mount an ext-drive is a beginners issue, not for techies
[07:07] <EriC^^> Lucax: you should be able to click on it in the filemanager
[07:08] <Lucax> yes it should be that easy but it is not mounted, it asks me to mount from root
[07:08] <EriC^^> ok so type sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt
[07:09] <Lucax> just like that or do I have to replace something in your command with my own details?
[07:09] <EriC^^> Lucax: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link here
[07:11] <Lucax> atcha, blooming terminal is just showing blinking
[07:11] <Lucax> now it is ok
[07:12] <EriC^^> link?
[07:12] <Lucax> sorry no link
[07:12] <Lucax> mount: special device /dev/sdxY does not exist
[07:13] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l...
[07:13] <Lucax> it gave no result
[07:13] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l
[07:13] <EriC^^> paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <Lucax> ok I have the link
[07:16] <EriC^^> ok
[07:16] <Lucax> I just have to sign up to this paste.ubuntu
[07:16] <Lucax> what is paste.ubuntu?
[07:16] <sruli> TJ-: u around, i fixed it! 1 minor change in templates!
[07:17] <Lucax> can I come back to you Eric, I have lunchtime here
[07:17] <sinisterdoor> is it true that libreoffice doesn't support page border clip art?
[07:18] <ashok> hi
[07:18] <wileee> sinisterdoor, You look in the onboard manual?
[07:18] <andrew_46> ashok: hi :)
[07:18] <ashok> ehat
[07:19] <ashok> how u
[07:19] <sinisterdoor> wileee,sure :P .it doesn't say anything about that.I checked http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/23126/artistic-edges/ but it's 2013 so I am not sure if it's current as of 5.0.3
[07:19] <andrew_46> ashok: I am well but bear in mind this is a support channel....
[07:19] <sinisterdoor> I want this: http://www.farhangnews.ir/sites/default/files/content/images/story/91-11/08/15.jpg
[07:20] <ashok> sorry bro i want to need best thems can i apply
[07:20] <ashok> i need help
[07:21] <wileee> you sure do
[07:21] <ashok> yas
[07:22] <wileee> sinisterdoor, Not sure really without doing the looking around, I'm a fan of using the app that shows what your trying to do as an example however.
[07:22] <ashok> theams
[07:25] <sruli> what would be the safest way to clone a installation partition
[07:25] <somsip> !info clonezilla | sruli (or just plain dd)
[07:26] <hateball> sruli: clonezilla-live is a nice way
[07:26] <sruli> somsip: if i clone  partition to another drive, how do i install the boot?
[07:27] <somsip> sruli: if you do a bare metal clone, AIUI it will copy *everything*
[07:28] <sruli> i dont want to copy full drive, i have 4 os's i want to copy 2 os's drives are not same size, will it still work?
[07:30] <somsip> sruli: I dont follow you.
[07:31] <sruli> somsip: i dont want to clone the full hard drive only 3 partitions, also if the target hard drive is not the same size as source will it work?
[07:32] <somsip> sruli: if the target is bigger, you will need to resize the partition to whatever you want it to be after.
[07:32] <sruli> ok, tnx
[07:36] <Kartagis> how can I stop update manager asking me if I want to install 3.16.* kernel packages?
[07:37] <DJ_HaMsTa> i just installed vnc into my vps. im trying to connect but its actively refused. the tightvnc server is running, what can be causing my error?
[07:38] <DJ_HaMsTa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13245932/
[07:38] <cynixx3> I am trying to add a repository to sources.list but when I run apt-get update I get a 404 error. The URL is wrong because apt-get adds a /packages directory when the repo doesnt have that.  I'm using ubuntu 15.10. not compatible?
[07:42] <wileee> no
[07:42] <cynixx3> okay well here is my goal, get php 5.3.~10
[07:42] <wileee> cynixx3, precise?
[07:42] <Lucax> When I want to adress someone in particular with colors, how do I do that here on mIrc?
[07:43] <hateball> !tab | Lucax
[07:43] <cynixx3> I would have thought lucid.
[07:43] <somsip> !who | Lucax
[07:43] <wileee> cynixx3, if you can get that in 15.10 your in your own, not really supported here is all. If you had a good reason maybe.
[07:44] <wileee> s/in/on
[07:44] <Lucax> I just get a list of channelusers if I type tab
[07:45] <cynixx3> I have a php script that is not running on php 5.6, I do not know at which version it stopped working but I know it works on 5.3.10
[07:45] <somsip> Lucax: som{tab} gets me and 'someone', repeated tab cycles
[07:46] <Lucax> EriC^^:  I have the link
[07:46] <cynixx3> Thanks for clarifying that repo issue wileee
[07:46] <wileee> cynixx3, No problem, hope you get the php thang resolved.
[07:51] <Quaker> i want to be a hacker
[07:51] <cynixx3> wileee, one more quesiton. How bad of an idea would it be to change all the repos to use lucid instead of wily and then install php 5.3.2?
[07:51] <Quaker> apt-get install brain
[07:51] <cynixx3> Then maybe change back and disable php upgrades?
[07:52] <mac1> Hi Quaker
[07:52] <wileee> cynixx3, bad idea really, that 5.3 can be gotten by deb, either install could throw in dependencies and libraries that conflict. This is a backwards way to go is all, fix the script to run.
[07:55] <wileee> cynixx3, I though OerHeks posted a php lin earlier that showed the dispersal per release and 5.3 was 12.0 still supported, maybe conform this and do a vm or dualboot.
[07:55] <wileee> link*
[07:55] <Quaker> hello mac1
[07:55] <wileee> sorry 12.04
[07:56] <Quaker> what do i need to be a good at making programs ?
[07:56] <Quaker> and hack
[07:57] <mac1> Quaker, First learn Python Language.
[07:57] <wileee> being able to read a channels topic would be your start
[07:58] <Quaker> yes
[07:58] <Quaker> indeed
[08:06] <Lucax> pardon moi franceux, heuv on se earth can moi procedure with mounting moi external 'ard drive?
[08:06] <wileee> !fr
[08:11] <alpaca_sida_xD> eseeee
[08:11] <alpaca_sida_xD> jajajaj ful xd
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> ey?
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> hola?
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> someone here?
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> dick
[08:22] <trijntje> How can I display which installation media was used to install ubuntu? I know its possible because it get included automatically in bug reports, but I don't know where to find it on my system
[08:25] <trijntje> found it in /var/log/installer/media-info
[08:27] <Lucax> what if I quite simply run sudo mount-a?
[08:30] <NexusStar> could someone help me with installation problem of docker on trusty running in vmware?
[08:30] <wileee> !detail | Lucax in english
[08:30] <wileee> !details
[08:33] <Lucax> I am unable to mount my external drive and now I can not even see it in the filemanager, whenever I want to mount it asks me to run as root but I dont know how to do that, first of all since I am a beginner I look for GUI options quite naturally, now I am trying random commands and next is unknown....to man
[08:34] <trijntje> Lucax: the easiest thing is just to format it as fat or ntfs instead of ext
[08:34] <est31> is there a way to execute script hooks when an user logs in / logs out / the session gets locked / unlocked using lightDM?
[08:35] <NexusStar> I follow installation instruction from docker.com and when run docker --version it reports 1.9.0 but keeps Cannot connect to Docker daemon
[08:36] <wileee> NexusStar, Isn't docker a 3rd party?
[08:36] <Lucax> format it as fat or ntfs, the word format disturbs me a little, does it mean wiping out the files in the external drive or is this type of formating more of a reconfiguration or a formatchanging
[08:36] <NexusStar> wileee, Yes
[08:37] <trijntje> Lucax: no, if you format it you will lose all data on the disk
[08:37] <wileee> NexusStar, Not supported here is all you will have to follow other support is all.
[08:37] <NexusStar> wileee, you suggest ask this to docker channel?
[08:37] <wileee> if there is one yeah
[08:37] <Lucax> to format it to fat32 or ntfs means loosing all the data?
[08:37] <wileee> yes
[08:38] <Lucax> well then this option is not valid for me
[08:38] <NexusStar> wileee, ok
[08:38] <wileee> Lucax, Do now what the file system is now, ext?
[08:38] <Lucax> it is mac
[08:38] <Lucax> apple hfs
[08:38] <somsip> Lucax: htfs by chance?
[08:39] <wileee> Lucax, That is your problem, read only mount I believe if you get there generally.
[08:39] <Lucax> it says only HFS
[08:39] <pihpah> I am trying to run Ubuntu from a usb stick but all I get is Ubuntu's splash screen. How can I figure out what's wrong?
[08:39] <Lucax> aah wileee we are getting somewhere
[08:39] <est31> pihpah, try ctrl-alt-f1
[08:39] <wileee> pihpah, try hitting the shift key to see text.
[08:40] <trijntje> pihpah: you might see error messages if you hit the 'up' arrow. Else hold shift when starting the usb and select 'check cd for defects'
[08:40] <Lucax> it seems to be I can just change its format in Disks
[08:40] <trijntje> Lucax: dont do that!
[08:40] <Lucax> there is a long list within the Edit Partition option
[08:40] <somsip> Lucax: always best to give us all the information to avoid going round in circles. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[08:40] <Lucax> ok ok ok
[08:40] <somsip> Lucax: also http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[08:40] <trijntje> Lucax: easiest: go back to mac, backup all files, format ntfs or fat, put data back, use the disk on windows/linux and mac ;)
[08:42] <febritecno> hi
[08:42] <febritecno> alnoe
[08:43] <pihpah> nothing, looks like it's completely frozen.
[08:43] <pihpah> I suppose I have to turn off splash screen to see what's going on.
[08:44] <est31> yea try to disable the splash screen while it still works
[08:45] <pihpah> est31: I've tried, none of aforementioned methods worked.
[08:45] <wileee> pihpah, blackscreen any blinking cursor or anything?
[08:45] <pihpah> Nothing, just splash screen with Ubuntu logo.
[08:46] <wileee> pihpah, You know how to insert nomodeset?
[08:46] <pihpah> Something's wrong with my laptop. It takes about 5 minutes before I see grub menu.
[08:46] <est31> you boot off stick?
[08:46] <est31> perhaps there is a problem with your hdd
[08:46] <pihpah> yes, I do
[08:47] <est31> e.g. it scans first for the hdd, then sees the stick, and decides to boot from that
[08:47] <wileee> est31, for 5 minutes
[08:47] <est31> and scanning for the hdd takes time because it has problem
[08:47] <est31> just a wild theory
[08:47] <pihpah> est31: what if I disconnect my HDD, would that help?
[08:47] <est31> you could try
[08:47] <pihpah> ok
[08:47] <wileee> no wild theories please plenty if good support here
[08:51] <pihpah> est31: well, as I remember from my previous experience with broken hdd usually it took not much time to figure out that it is broken and can't be used. Not sure what changed since UEFI replaced the old BIOS.
[08:52] <pihpah> So why it takes so much time before system will try my usb stick, this is a question.
[08:53] <wileee> pihpah, You been to the uefi wiki?
[08:53] <pihpah> yes, I read about that.
[08:53] <wileee> first mention of uefi, kida crucial info
[08:53] <wileee> ]kinda*
[08:54] <Lucax> somsip: partitionally speaking. I still get nowhere
[08:54] <pihpah> Oh, here we go, grub menu showed up. As I said it took about 5 minutes.
[08:56] <est31> ah so it seems lightdm has hooks for login and logout
[08:56] <Lucax> somsip: I followed your links and it told I had to disable journaling, so I plugged my ext back to mac and checked but journaling is already disabled and the disks shows that it is read and write, does the disk appear as read and write only for mac and becomes read only for unix?
[08:57] <est31> but not for lock/unlock
[08:57] <est31> bad bad
[08:57] <somsip> Lucax: no idea myself. If I want to copy something to OSX, I scp it. I just remember people haveing problems mounting HFS+ before in here (not HFTS or whatever I said earlier)
[08:58] <Lucax> ok, thanks anyway
[08:59] <pihpah> So, this is it: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/ju4zcsp3rbcq6ob/AACLSewb6uxeyRm1yBTwWVmma
[09:05] <sruli> i am trying to install ubuntu-server 14.04.3 x64 from uefi usb stick , i get error "cd-rom drive contains a cd which cannot be used for installation..." how do i add ubuntu server iso to usb stick? i have other iso's (ubuntu desktop and others) which work fine from this stick
[09:08] <yoann_> salut ! je suis a la recherche d'un programme qui me permettrais de déclencher l'arret programmer mon ordinateur. merci
[09:11] <hateball> !fr | yoann_
[09:11] <yoann_> ok thank
[09:13] <EriC^^> sruli: dd the iso to the usb
[09:13] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[09:17] <sruli> EriC^^:  no, cp its a uefi usb so i have a load of iso's and grub.cfg menu, all live iso (ubuntu desktop etc) work fine, for some reason its not liking the mount of the usb, in syslog i get /dev/sdb1 is not a ubuntu cd
[09:18] <sruli> EriC^^: i wan to mount is a /cdrom but "umount /dev/sdb1" returns "invalid argument"
[09:21] <ocx> hello all
[09:22] <ocx> i am having dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> in my /etc/network/interfaces for some reason after a reboot the /etc/resolv.conf reads <IP_ADDRESS> what could be the problem?
[09:22] <EriC^^> sruli: not sure what you mean
[09:24] <sruli> EriC^^: when trying to install i get error "incorrect cdrom detected" installer is expecting it to be mounted at /cd-rom, so i want to umount usb and mount it to /cd-rom, but when i exec from tty2 "umount /dev/sdb1" i get an error "cant umount /dev/sdb1: invalid argument" so question is how do i umount it?
[09:25] <freddy> hi
[09:26] <freddy> i have a small problem
[09:26] <freddy> trie to use telnet
[09:26] <freddy> for a remote pc
[09:26] <EriC^^> sruli: you could try to mount bind /dev/sdb1 's mount location to /cd-rom
[09:26] <freddy> and its loading loading and nothing
[09:26] <ocx> i am having dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> in my /etc/network/interfaces for some reason after a reboot the /etc/resolv.conf reads <IP_ADDRESS> what could be the problem?
[09:27] <sruli> EriC^^:  how do i find the current mount location from /bin/sh ?
[09:27] <EriC^^> type df
[09:28] <freddy> not even the ssh works
[09:28] <freddy> nor putty
[09:29] <freddy> can someone help me ?
[09:30] <sruli> EriC^^: its not mounted
[09:31] <freddy> anyone ?
[09:31] <EriC^^> sruli: this is an xy problem i think
[09:32] <est31> freddy, are you sure the remote pc has telnet?
[09:32] <est31> or ssh?
[09:32] <freddy> pretty sure
[09:32] <EriC^^> sruli: you say you have a bunch of iso's on a usb and you're running from grub the server iso and it says /cdrom can't be found?
[09:32] <est31> does ping work freddy ?
[09:32] <freddy> yes
[09:33] <sruli> EriC^^:  only ubuntu server iso gives me this error
[09:33] <ren0v0> how do i connect my android 6 device to ubuntu?
[09:33] <ren0v0> it "connects" but directory is blank
[09:34] <Mathisen> ren0v0, sudo apt-get install mtpfs
[09:35] <est31> freddy, so it worked before, and now is broken?
[09:35] <ren0v0> Mathisen, nope, no change
[09:35] <est31> and is there a firewall between the remote box and you
[09:35] <freddy> actually it never worked
[09:35] <EriC^^> sruli: is the usb mounted somewhere?
[09:35] <freddy> for two days im trying now
[09:36] <EriC^^> sruli: is /dev/loop0 mounted?
[09:36] <ren0v0> Mathisen, seems they changed location of usb connection options
[09:36] <Mathisen> ren0v0, i dont know then :(
[09:36] <est31> ren0v0, what does sudo mtp-detect  say
[09:37] <est31> can you put it onto a pastebin
[09:37] <freddy> IPTables isn't a problem all ports are enabled
[09:37] <sruli> EriC^^: i cant find where the usb is mounted, df is not showing it, neither is loop0 showing as mointed
[09:37] <ren0v0> est31, its fine, bloody android 6 changed location of the USB options, its now in  notification bar and default is "charge only"
[09:38] <EriC^^> sruli: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:39] <est31> freddy, so it worked before?
[09:39] <est31> or you setting it up now
[09:39] <freddy> no
[09:39] <sruli> EriC^^: its text based installer not reached the point of network config yet
[09:40] <paulo> #list
[09:40] <est31> freddy, what does nmap -v -sT <address> say?
[09:40] <freddy> i check
[09:40] <sruli> EriC^^: df shows me 3 mounts "none mounted at /run" "devtmpfs mounted at /dev" and last one "dev/sda2 mounted at /dev" (sda2 is a windows fat32 boot part)
[09:40] <codeman2015> check
[09:40] <EriC^^> sruli: what does lsblk show?
[09:41] <sruli> command not found
[09:41] <sruli> i am in /bin/sh
[09:41] <freddy> okay now i see the problem
[09:42] <sruli> EriC^^: how to i force umount of sda2? that mounted to media and i guess thats cuasing the issue
[09:42] <est31> umount /dev/sda2
[09:42] <freddy> some idiot disabled is and only left 80 and 443 ports
[09:43] <freddy> last it had 25 and 22 too
[09:43] <sruli> est31: device busy.. i asked how do i force umount
[09:43] <freddy> never mind thanks any ways :)
[09:43] <est31> -f param?
[09:43] <est31> freddy, np
[09:44] <chotaz`w> Does this channel have logs?
[09:44] <sruli> est31: cant forcibly umount, device busy

[09:46] <est31> There is -l param too, but it has the potential of being destructive
[09:46] <Mathisen> chotaz`w, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[09:46] <est31> chotaz`w, look at greeting message by ChanServ
[09:46] <sruli> destructive to what? usb or hdd?
[09:47] <EriC^^> the filesystem
[09:47] <EriC^^> sruli: i think something else is wrong, i'd recommend googling the error
[09:47] <est31> best is to do lsof /dev/sda2
[09:47] <EriC^^> ( no offense just lazy )
[09:47] <est31> and then manually killing the involved processes
[09:47] <est31> or terminating otherwise
[09:47] <sruli> googled, for 2 hours now, nothing which helps
[09:49] <est31> sruli, it won't save opened data, but from what it seems it will at least keep the file system consistent
[09:49] <sruli> lsof command not found
[09:50] <est31> ah seems that lazy umount will stall until the device isnt busy anymore
[09:52] <wush> hello everyone, I have this command to make an image of a partition on another drive. could you please tell me if it's correctly set: 'sudo dd if=/dev/sdb3 of=/media/user/mypartitionname/mydisk.img bs=128M conv=noerror,notrunc' ?
[09:53] <est31> wush, I'd prefer ddrescue over dd with noerror param
[09:53] <est31> if your disk has errors, ddrescue is smarter
[09:53] <est31> and you can do logfiles
[09:53] <est31> its a bit slower though
[09:53] <est31> (logfiles make you save progress)
[09:54] <wush> est31, oh, I've used dd before, familiar is sort of easier as I am not too advanced in this
[09:55] <wush> just, I wanted to know if I could use it for a partition (sdb3) like above, as the same command when I used it for a whole drive (sdb) ?
[09:55] <est31> yes!
[09:55] <est31> welcome to unix :)
[09:55] <wush> est31, thank you!
[09:59] <wush> est31, there is also one more peculiarity. the partition in question, sdb3, is an extended partition. I wanted to image it in order for the image to contain all the partitions under it. would the image contain these?
[09:59] <wileee> wush, you don't image an extension but the partitons within
[10:01] <wush> wileee, so if I use sdb3 in the command, the partitions in there would be within the resulting image?
[10:01] <est31> wush, what does sudo hexdump -n 512 /dev/sdb3 say?
[10:01] <wileee> what command?
[10:01] <est31> "hexdump -n 512 /dev/sdb3"
[10:01] <est31> executed as root
[10:01] <wileee> man dd
[10:01] <est31> and output to a pastebin
[10:01] <est31> and link posted here :)
[10:04] <wush> est31, it is here: paste.ubuntu.com/13246523
[10:07] <est31> wush, that's LUKS
[10:07] <est31> its not an MBR partition
[10:07] <wush> est, correct
[10:07] <est31> probably it will save what you want to get saved.
[10:09] <zetheroo> just got an update for grub and Debconf pops up asking where to install GRUB to ... I selected the sda device and it's partition (where Ubuntu is installed on) and clicked "Forward" but the next screen says "Writing GRUB to boot device failed - continue?"
[10:09] <wush> est31, so the image would contain all partitions under extended partition, then?
[10:09] <vmusr> can I alter the dns server supplied by dhcp via dhcp-relay?
[10:09] <est31> wush, well the term "extended partition" doesn't apply here, because it is for mbr based partitions
[10:10] <wileee> zetheroo, this a uefi?
[10:10] <est31> but yes, the image would contain all virtual partitions
[10:10] <zetheroo> wileee: no idea (Thinkpad T440p)
[10:11] <wush> est31, but that's how the partition is labelled in disk utility. and also it says master boot record.
[10:11] <sruli> which debain based console can i install with eufi usb stick?
[10:11] <wileee> zetheroo, pop open another terminal and run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin it.
[10:12] <sruli> \\server with console not gui
[10:13] <zetheroo> wileee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246551/
[10:13] <est31> wush, well it is possible that LUKS itself resides inside an mbr virtual partition, idk
[10:13] <est31> but only the LUKS partition is accessible through sda3.
[10:13] <wileee> zetheroo, you want grub in sda not a partition
[10:14] <wileee> that is the mbr
[10:14] <wush> est31, ok, thank you, I will just try and see what happens
[10:14] <est31> wileee, master boot record. old way to organize the partitions on the disk
[10:14] <est31> and to contain a small executable which boots the os
[10:16] <zetheroo> wileee: that's what I thought at first, but that too doesn't seem to work ..
[10:17] <zetheroo> if I tell grub to install to just /dev/sda and click "Forward" the next screen says "Continue without installing GRUB?"
[10:17] <zetheroo> and if I leave that option unticked and click again on "Forward" I am just taken back to the previous screen where I am asking where to install grub
[10:17] <wileee> zetheroo, are you sure your choosing correctly?
[10:18] <guest-PmYTg4> how does it work
[10:18] <zetheroo> http://tinypic.com/r/ao1ftc/9
[10:18] <zetheroo> wileee: ^
[10:19] <wileee> thanks
[10:19] <wileee> hold on
[10:20] <wileee> zetheroo, what brought up a gui, I usually see this in a terminal, a little confusing here for me.
[10:20] <zetheroo> Software Updater
[10:20] <wileee> zetheroo, Ah, so if you hit forward show me the screens you go through if you can if it errors.
[10:21] <zetheroo> http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:22] <wush> est31, thank you for your help!
[10:22] <zetheroo> if I click "Forward" I go here: http://tinypic.com/r/9pz5z6/9
[10:22] <est31> np
[10:22] <zetheroo> wileee: and if I click "Forward" again I end up back at the previous screen
[10:24] <zetheroo> wileee: that grub-install error only shows up when I select sda1 to install gub to
[10:24] <wileee> zetheroo, not sure I follow that.
[10:24] <wileee> last statement
[10:24] <EriC^^> zetheroo: you're not supposed to install grub to a partition, usually it goes on the disk
[10:25] <zetheroo>  wileee:  http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:25] <marlinc> Any idea when umake will support IntellIJ IDEA 15?
[10:26] <wileee> zetheroo, Have you used any other grub controller like grub customizer?
[10:26] <CAQUITAS> Me gusta hacer caquitas
[10:27] <wileee> time for food
[10:27] <CAQUITAS> time for poops
[10:28] <zetheroo> wileee: not that I can recall
[10:29] <zetheroo> EriC^^: yep - doesn't work there either ...
[10:30] <zetheroo> do I have to select both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb ?
[10:30] <zetheroo> sdb is just a data disk without any OS installed
[10:32] <zetheroo> well, kinda stuck here ... not sure what to do ...
[10:33] <wileee> zetheroo, open a terminal and run sudo grub-install dev/sda   and see if it finishes
[10:34] <zetheroo> should I leave the Debconf windows open ?
[10:35] <zetheroo> "Installation finished. No error reported."
[10:36] <zetheroo> ok, so it worked in the terminal so I just selected the option in Debconf to not install grub and finished the update
[10:36] <wileee> zetheroo, strange than that it errors in that deb, same basic action, you can just finish it I think and confirm after with that command and a sudo update-grub just to have a look.
[10:36] <wileee> ah cool, even stranger, heh
[10:37] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246639/
[10:37] <zetheroo> ^ that was done after the update closed
[10:38] <zetheroo> I noticed the package name of the grub update was beta2 - is that normal that beta packages are used on LTS releases?
[10:39] <wileee> zetheroo, I wonder if your changing of the time out caused this, grub should not be showing anyway.
[10:39] <wileee> normal yeah
[10:39] <zetheroo> ok
[10:40] <wileee> zetheroo, can you bring up grub if needed?
[10:40] <zetheroo> "I wonder if your changing of the time out caused this, grub should not be showing anyway." - not following you ..
[10:40] <zetheroo> on boot?
[10:40] <zetheroo> haven't tried ...
[10:40] <wileee> zetheroo, yes
[10:40] <zetheroo> whats the key to press? ... F8?
[10:41] <wileee> that timeout affects that, it is the wait time from grub to boot generall 10 seconds
[10:41] <wileee> zetheroo, shift
[10:41] <zetheroo> I guess I can try it next time I boot up
[10:41] <zetheroo> I didn't change any timeout settings though
[10:42] <wileee> zetheroo, hard to say, in these matters, I could swear I never swear, but I'm wrong. ;)
[10:42] <wileee> I forget
[10:44] <wileee> zetheroo, cool thing about grub especially in this basic use is that it can be purged and reloaded if needed, pretty flexible in fixing if goals are norm
[10:44] <Nairwolf> Hi, I've received an update of grub, and the menu seem doesn't work well
[10:44] <zetheroo> right ...
[10:45] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: ha ... you don't say :)
[10:45] <Nairwolf> it ask me where I want to install it, I choose my disk /dev/sda and he says me that nothing was choosen...
[10:45] <Nairwolf> zetheroo you have also an issue ?
[10:45] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: just finished sorting it out ;)
[10:45] <Nairwolf> okay, what have you done ?
[10:46] <zetheroo> I opened a terminal and did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[10:46] <zetheroo> all was ok so I told the update gui to not install grub
[10:46] <wileee> Nairwolf, Hold on don;t just run commands
[10:46] <zetheroo> then did both "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" and "sudo update-grub" again in terminal
[10:47] <Nairwolf> okay, thanks
[10:47] <wileee> zetheroo, be very careful, don't just spit out your fix, people will run stuff.
[10:47] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: but you should be sure that you want to intall grub to /dev/sda and not some other device
[10:47] <Nairwolf> but it's strange that the gui menu doesn't want to recognize where I want to install it
[10:47] <Nairwolf> yes, i'm sure it's at /dev/sda
[10:47] <wileee> we have no idea the know sda for sdz
[10:47] <Nairwolf> it's where I have /
[10:48] <zetheroo> wileee: right - of course that is what worked for me ... may or may not work for someone else ..
[10:48] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: yeah, same here
[10:48] <wileee> cool
[10:48] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: what version of Ubuntu /
[10:48] <zetheroo> ?
[10:48] <Nairwolf> Xubuntu 14.04
[10:48] <zetheroo> same here
[10:48] <zetheroo> can you view the details of the updates?
[10:48] <zetheroo> like this http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:49] <Nairwolf> I have /dev/sda1 for /boot/efi
[10:49] <Nairwolf> /dev/sda2 for /
[10:49] <Nairwolf> /dev/sda3 for swap
[10:49] <Nairwolf> /dev/sda4 for /home
[10:49] <wileee> STOP
[10:49] <wileee> Nairwolf, his was a msdos, not even close
[10:50] <zetheroo> yep, that's not the same anymore
[10:50] <Nairwolf> so, what I'm supposed to do ?
[10:50] <wileee> Nairwolf, should be uefi help along soon, matter of patience as usual, I wonder if there is a bug though.
[10:51] <zetheroo> wileee: but why not let him try to install grub via term ?
[10:51] <Nairwolf> sorry, my english isn't good, what do you mean bu "should be uefi help along soon" ?
[10:51] <wileee> zetheroo, uefi does not use the mbr
[10:51] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: try sudo grub-install
[10:51] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: can you get to seeing the details of the update like here: http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:52] <wileee> zetheroo, hold back please let the regular uefi help, help.
[10:52] <zetheroo> wileee: roger that
[10:52] <zetheroo> ;)
[10:52] <wileee> ;)
[10:53] <zetheroo> I just am keen to know what package version it is
[10:53] <EriC^^> !info grub-pc trusty
[10:53] <wileee> !info grub 14.04
[10:53] <wileee> doh
[10:53] <EriC^^> zetheroo: yeah it's using a beta for grub-pc
[10:53] <EriC^^> !info grub-efi-amd64 trusty
[10:54] <Nairwolf> this is what I had after the gui update : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246691/
[10:54] <EriC^^> zetheroo: it's always been like that though
[10:54] <zetheroo> ok
[10:54] <Nairwolf> I will try to make sudo grub-update
[10:55] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: that doesn't look like an error though
[10:55] <Nairwolf> some lines are in french, it is said for the line "adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration" -> done
[10:55] <zetheroo> Google-ing for "2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.4 bug" turns up some reports ...
[10:56] <MoL0ToV> someone can explain to me why libreoffice 5.0 is available on windows and not on ubuntu?
[10:56] <Nairwolf> so, does I need to make "suod grub-update" or "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" ?
[10:56] <EriC^^> no
[10:56] <zetheroo> MoL0ToV: it's is ... just not in the official Ubuntu repos .. ;)
[10:56] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: what's the problem exactly?
[10:56] <MoL0ToV> when in official rep?
[10:56] <Nairwolf> I don't know
[10:57] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: why did you come here asking about grub?
[10:57] <Nairwolf> MoL0ToV : It's already in the recent release 15.10
[10:57] <zetheroo> EriC^^: I think he still has the Debconf dialog open ... !?
[10:57] <Nairwolf> EriC^^: Because I've received an update from grub and the gui didn't recognize my device
[10:57] <MoL0ToV> ok thx
[10:57] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: what gui?
[10:57] <zetheroo> EriC^^:  same issue as I had with the Debconf dialog :)
[10:57] <Nairwolf> the gui for the grub-update
[10:57] <zetheroo> EriC^^: Debconf gui
[10:58] <Nairwolf> yes, maybe it's what zetheroo says
[10:58] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: ok, try sudo grub-install in the terminal
[10:58] <wileee> MoL0ToV,  there is a ppa
[10:58] <Nairwolf> okay, it returns "installation done without errors"
[10:58] <Nairwolf> thanks ;)
[10:58] <zetheroo> like this http://tinypic.com/r/ao1ftc/9
[10:58] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: ok, type sudo update-grub
[10:58] <zetheroo>  EriC^^: ^^
[10:59] <zetheroo> and this http://tinypic.com/r/9pz5z6/9
[10:59] <Nairwolf> it's done
[10:59] <terminator_> hi all
[10:59] <Nairwolf> Why I had the gui interface ? I've never seen it before, and I've already seen grub updates
[11:00] <terminator_> how i cant install wine in back box ??/
[11:00] <Nairwolf> thanks guys ;)
[11:00] <terminator_> how i cant install wine in back box ??/
[11:00] <wileee> terminator_, ubuntu only here
[11:01] <terminator_> the back box base ubuntu
[11:01] <wileee> no derivatives
[11:01] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: no problem
[11:02] <zetheroo> MoL0ToV:  to install on Ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04 from libreoffice repo:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246720/
[11:02] <zetheroo> I have it installed like this and it's fine.
[11:03] <phiona> im running windows in virtual box, is it ok if i dont install protection on it? like anti virus and firewalls?
[11:03] <CirclePixel> Goodnight overactive Linux distribution channel
[11:04] <akik> phiona: you should treat it the same way as your other windows boxes
[11:05] <zetheroo> phiona: if it's online it's just like any other Windows OS online
[11:05] <wileee> it's all in the delivery
[11:11] <MoL0ToV> zetheroo, i wait until is added to official repositories
[11:54] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know if this init script is correct - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/master/puppet/template/vagrant_mounted.erb
[12:04] <Layan> hi
[12:07] <Layan> Xubuntu user hear??
[12:08] <Layan> any xubuntu user hear??
[12:12] <jacopo> ciao a tutti
[12:19] <Christian87> I would like to backup a file everytime as soon as it changes to another linux server. Is there a ready to run tool besides building something with inotify and rsync?
[12:19] <maxim> омг что я тут делаю?)
[12:23] <Gnjurac> hi where are my RSA keys located by default
[12:24] <cx405> Hi! I am looking for a "note taking" software, that saves notes as TEXT files, so they can even be manually edited or created. Syntax like Markup or similar. Is there such software?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> cx405: maybe notepad++ ?
[13:07] <ruffleS> my screen flickers during boot process. is there any fix for it?
[13:08] <daftykins> is it stable once it reaches the desktop?
[13:09] <ruffleS> i get this error message. 4 lines of messages.
[13:09] <ruffleS> the flickering seems like the system is transitioning from one screen resolution to another
[13:09] <daftykins> ruffleS: do we get to see them?
[13:10] <ruffleS> daftykins, i think so, yeah... i could try to record it and upload it on youtube, i guess...
[13:10] <daftykins> well boot messages may just be in your boot log
[13:10] <ruffleS> daftykins, is it to be found in /var/log/boot ?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> ruffleS: when did this all starting to happen?
[13:11] <daftykins> cat /var/log/boot.log; or perhaps dmesg
[13:11] <ruffleS> lotuspsychje, post install
[13:12] <sruli> I wan tot add Init=/bin/sh to grub for one of my debain boots (have 4 on my machine) however i dont want it to get overwritten on update-grub how can i resolve this?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ruffleS: no i mean, since when did you ahve this error?
[13:12] <ruffleS> i'll try to find the error message. bbl
[13:12] <sruli> sorry meant ubuntu
[13:12] <daftykins> sruli: are you one of those folk that run debian then lie to us to get help? :)
[13:13] <sruli> daftykins: lol no,
[13:13] <sruli> i'm a die hard ubuntu
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> sruli: and you dualboot with debian?
[13:14] <sruli> lotuspsychje: no it was a stupid typo as the last few forums i researched this were debain...
[13:14] <sruli> i dual boot 4 ubuntu's
[13:15] <sruli> anyone can help with this?
[13:16] <ggherdov> Hello. I have an ubuntu VM on which I just "apt-get purge"-ed many kernels I don't use anymore (they kept piling up after each update). Now, err.. the machine doesn't boot anymore :)
[13:16] <ggherdov> I don't think I removed the current kernel, but something went wrong anyways. Whatever. I am now accessing the filesystem via a bootable ubuntu image.
[13:16] <ggherdov> Question: where would you go looking for anomalies? My first thought is to check what kernel GRUB is trying to load, but I don't find the /boot/grub/grub.cfg . Could this be the problem?
[13:16] <ruslan> guys, I have a strange problem I'm strugling with on ubuntu 15.04 on an intel NUC: When I move the mouse against the left edge of the screen, the screen crashes (becomes solid color - but is still on). At that point I cant do anything (not even switch to another tty).
[13:17] <daftykins> sruli: boot with 'text' appended to the kernel boot params if it's 14.04.
[13:17] <goale> hello everyone, I tried to create the image of an extended partition (using its device name in 'if='). my aim was to image not the whole drive, but only the partitions under extended partition. but the resulting image was only 1kB. what do I need to do only to image said part of the drive?
[13:17] <daftykins> sruli: i'm assuming you're after a console login only? no X starting?
[13:18] <daftykins> goale: what's the purpose of this? use clonezilla, it's a bootable ISO in itself as well as installable in live sessions.
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: did you try this on LTS also?
[13:18] <sruli> daftykins: on that one i am after a /bin/sh
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | ggherdov tryed this?
[13:18] <ggherdov> lotuspsychje: thanks, will check
[13:19] <daftykins> sruli: yeah it gives a TTY login, so just login... or use recovery boot instead. you need to say what you're trying to achieve, right now it makes 0 sense.
[13:19] <goale> daftykins. it doesnt matter what I use. I need the part of disk to be copied
[13:19] <ruslan> lotuspsychje, no I didn't (this is a work computer). I've read about different graphics problems with NUC+Ubuntu but didnt find anything similar
[13:20] <goale> I dont need iso
[13:20] <goale> I mean only the extended partition to be copied, with partitions under it
[13:20] <daftykins> goale: i'm just saying clonezilla is excellent image taking software - so yeah, it actually is helpful - and i'm just saying multiple ways to run it, bootable or not.
[13:20] <daftykins> goale: you have to do the logical drives one by one.
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: i would try LTS on it, at least to be sure having stable
[13:20] <sruli> daftykins: lets call it the fastest recovery boot ;-) . i did not get ur previous message, where do i put what text?
[13:21] <daftykins> sruli: no lets call it what it is - what are you trying to achieve?
[13:23] <sruli> i need quick and dirty access to 1 of my other installed os's
[13:23] <daftykins> so recovery console then, don't modify - just use it like it's designed to be
[13:23] <navin_> can I query about problems with my ubuntu os here, so that some one here can help??
[13:23] <daftykins> navin_: yep that's this channels purpose
[13:24] <ruslan> lotuspsychje: OK, I will try to free some time this weekend. I'll make it crash now, to see what syslog says brb
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: and dmesg also
[13:24] <navin_> some keyboard keys like the symbols with number keys do no work with shift, some work with only right shift key, sometimes right arrow does not work
[13:25] <daftykins> ruslan: just make sure you're on the latest BIOS, with NUCs.
[13:25] <sruli> daftykins: i want quick access, no recovery comes close to the speed of booting with Init=/bin/sh
[13:25] <navin_> the problem occurs most of the time
[13:25] <navin_> pls help
[13:26] <daftykins> sruli: your query being about boot time is utterly ridiculous, i don't think that method is supported.
[13:26] <sruli> daftykins: well it works, i just dont want it to get overwritten in grub-update
[13:27] <navin_> some keyboard keys like the symbols with number keys do no work with shift, some work with only right shift key, sometimes right arrow does not work
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: <daftykins> ruslan: just make sure you're on the latest BIOS, with NUCs.
[13:28] <daftykins> sruli: you're obviously adding it wrong, then
[13:28] <navin_> some keyboard keys like the symbols with number keys do no work with shift, some work with only right shift key, sometimes right arrow does not work
[13:28] <ruslan> lotuspsychje: I am
[13:29] <ruslan> lotuspsychje: Nov 13 14:22:41 rwd kernel: [21315.075261] [drm:valleyview_update_wm [i915_bpo]] *ERROR* timed out waiting for Punit DDR DVFS request
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: ok, you can try an LTS liveusb perhaps, see how things work out there?
[13:29] <sruli> daftykins: u are saying if i add it to /boot/grub/grub.cfg it wont get overwitten on grub-update?
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: could be a kernel thing also
[13:30] <daftykins> sruli: no i'm telling you that the way you're adding it, is wrong... and if you're editing that file... it says right at the top "don't edit me"... /etc/default/grub is the place to make changes
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: you could tryout latest mainline kernel on 15.04 or testing 14.04.3
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | ruslan
[13:30] <daftykins> sruli: if you managed to skip past the direct warning which says 'do not do this' then something bad is happening :)
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: in your case, would be nice to file a new Bug also for future NUC installers
[13:32] <navin_> shift+number keys not working please help
[13:32] <ikonia> not working where ?
[13:35] <navin_> ikonia: the symbols are not displayed when I press shift + number keys, although they work on rare occassions
[13:36] <sruli>  daftykins: therefore i am asking where would be the right place to put it!?
[13:36] <daftykins> sruli: i just said that didn't i.
[13:37] <daftykins> sruli: i guess you read IRC about as well as you read th grub.cfg :)
[13:37] <daftykins> *the
[13:37] <ruslan> ubotto, lotuspsychje: thx for the help
[13:37] <ikonia> navin_: where are you trying this ?
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: no sweat mate, hope it helps
[13:39] <navin_> ikonia_: say, i am writing in a text box and I want the 'hash'( symbolshift+3) or brackets in the 9 and 0 keys, it does not get displayed
[13:39] <sruli>  daftykins: my original question was where would be the place to put it ;-)
[13:41] <daftykins> sruli: right but you're actually going about the task wrong, so that had to be enquired upon.
[13:42] <navin_> the shift+ number keys not giving expected symbols, pls help
[13:43] <sruli>  daftykins: among the reasons i divorced windows years ago was the freedom doing what the hack u want in linux without a big Bill telling yae or nay
[13:44] <urbanendeavour> what does this mean?
[13:44] <urbanendeavour> Failed to fetch https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/dists/ubuntu-trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> urbanendeavour: have you added ppa's?
[13:45] <navin_> the shift+ number keys not giving expected symbols, pls help
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> navin_: have you chosen the right keyboard layout?
[13:45] <daftykins> sruli: that's a really poor attitude, logic and sense still applies, try and bear that in mind.
[13:46] <cx405> Hi! I am looking for a "note taking" software, that saves notes as TEXT files, so they can even be manually edited or created. Syntax like Markup or similar. Is there such software?
[13:46] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: yes..
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> navin_: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:47] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: ubuntu 14.04
[13:47] <sruli>  daftykins: 100%, i dont mess around on my work machine, but i fell in love with linux and i love the freedom of being able to do new and wierd stuff on my hobby pc
[13:47] <retnadar> cx405: I use zim
[13:47] <urbanendeavour> lotuspsychje, it was malformed
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> navin_: ubuntu should choose the right keyboard for you, maybe its your hardware thats broken?
[13:47] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: ubuntu 14.04 lts 64 bit
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> urbanendeavour: what you mean?
[13:48] <urbanendeavour> I had an error in the file
[13:48] <daftykins> sruli: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> urbanendeavour: have you added ppa's of any kind to install software?
[13:48] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: they do work sometimes and they work perfectly in livecd
[13:48] <urbanendeavour> no
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> navin_: what kind of keyboard is this?
[13:49] <navin_> lotuspsychje_:laptop keyboard
[13:49] <sruli> daftykins: tnx for all ur help upto now ;-)
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> navin_: what brand of laptop?
[13:49] <sruli> daftykins: u r a gentleman
[13:50] <navin_> lotuspsychje_:compaq presario a900
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> navin_: you sure its set to azerty or qwerty correctly?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> navin_: chosen the right language layout for keyboard?
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> navin_: if livecd worked good, somlething else happened meanwhile
[13:51] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: other keys are working gine. it is the right language layout, i have checked..
[13:52] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: i don't understand what happened
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> navin_: have you played with keyboard settings after you installed?
[13:52] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: no, i have looked onto it only after the problem arised..
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> navin_: might be interesting to look at bottom of laptop what default language your compaq has
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> navin_: then compare keyboard in ubuntu setup
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> navin_: you could also try recoverymode/fix broken packages
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | navin_
[13:55] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: there is no specific language written at the bottom.
[13:55] <navin_> how to try recoverymode/fix broken packages??
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> navin_: enter grub and choose recoverymode
[13:56] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: what should I do after that?
[13:56] <haskell_> Hi, is there a tool that let's me restrict incoming/outgoing traffic, i.e. I would like to manually specify what sites I would like incoming traffic from, and what sites I would like outgoing traffic to go to?
[14:04] <daftykins> haskell_: ##networking
[14:04] <haskell_> daftykins, thanks, I guess doing something on ubuntu os doesn't always make it #ubuntu ;)
[14:09] <cx405> Hi! I am looking for a "note taking" software, that saves notes as TEXT files, so they can even be manually edited or created. Syntax like Markup or similar. Is there such software?
[14:13] <daftykins> haskell_: :) that's my take anyway!
[14:13] <retnadar> cx405, did you take a look at Zim? It uses markdown, saves in plain text files and can be edited or read in a regular editor if necessary.
[14:19] <linuxuz3r> how do i get kernel keys for ubuntu
[14:20] <linuxuz3r> for signing modules
[14:28] <linuxuz3r> yo
[14:28] <linuxuz3r> how do i get kernel keys
[14:30] <daftykins> not sure if anyone knows what you mean, i certainly don't
[14:30] <daftykins> hence no replies
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> for one thing the linux kernel is now secure
[14:30] <daftykins> what are you trying to achieve?
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> im compile a graphics driver
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> svgaII
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> vmwgfx
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> ko
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> it says something is tainted
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> not tainted but doesnt have the right signature
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> when i load it
[14:31] <daftykins> can you try and reduce the amount of enter key presses you use? it makes your messages very spammy and harder to read.
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> i need to sign the kernel module
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> sorry
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> its side effect of using bash
[14:32] <daftykins> no it's the youth of today's impatience :)
[14:32] <isReKT2000> irssi?
[14:32] <daftykins> maybe if you pastebin'd that output someone could take a glance
[14:34] <akik> linuxuz3r: you don't have to worry about the tainted message. it is just saying the the module has some other kind of license than gpl
[14:34] <linuxuz3r> but my apps are crashing
[14:35] <linuxuz3r> it gives me module: module function error cannot allocate memory
[14:35] <Skyrider> Greetings everyone
[14:36] <Skyrider> I wish to reinstall my VPS.. Should I install Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04. (server)
[14:36] <akik> linuxuz3r: and when you compiled it, there were no errors?
[14:36] <linuxuz3r> no
[14:36] <linuxuz3r> i tried several programs
[14:36] <Pici> Skyrider: Since 14.04 is an LTS, I highly suggest using that...
[14:36] <Skyrider> 15.04 isnt lts yet?
[14:37] <Myrtti> no, it's not
[14:37] <Skyrider> Thanks :)
[14:37] <Pici> Skyrider: LTS releases are every 2 years, so 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 (being released in April)
[14:37] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, 15.04 will NEVER be LTS
[14:38] <Skyrider> because of never versions over 15.xx?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 ... see the pattern
[14:39] <Skyrider> ah, double, thanks :)
[14:39] <Pici> Skyrider: if you haven't realized it already, the ubuntu version numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[14:39] <waz_> hi3
[14:40] <akik> linuxuz3r: https://github.com/Canonical-kernel/Ubuntu-kernel/blob/master/Documentation/module-signing.txt maybe that will help you. i haven't touched that ever
[14:40] <akik> linuxuz3r: there's info of those keys
[14:45] <niva> hey guys I am getting kernel panic's with the BCM43228 . Any ideas ?
[14:46] <rud0lf_> Hi
[14:46] <Skyrider> hi
[14:47] <rud0lf_> I have added "/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin" in bashrc. When I see $PATH, it shows the path .
[14:47] <rud0lf_> But it also says: "/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin:/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin: No such file or directory
[14:47] <rud0lf_> "
[14:47] <rud0lf_> I dont understand.
[14:48] <quaker> me too
[14:48] <rud0lf_> Why is it happening? What have I missed? Btw I have also added theat partition in fstab in order to auto mount it.
[14:49] <rud0lf_> Can something wrong there affect this?
[14:50] <ikonia> rud0lf_: pastebin your bashrc
[14:50] <linuxuz3r> did you do export PATH=$PATH:directory1:directory1?
[14:50] <linuxuz3r> did you do export PATH=$PATH:directory1:directory1 ?
[14:52] <rud0lf_> This is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247763/ and this is my bashrc:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247772/
[14:52] <rud0lf_> I did not write export :|
[14:53] <rud0lf_> Someone told me to add the line " PATH=$PATH:directory1:directory1" only
[14:54] <ikonia> rud0lf_: why do you have the "user" option set ?
[14:55] <rud0lf_> ikonia, the description was saying that user option means any user can mount it. SoI thought this is what I need.
[14:55] <rud0lf_> Is it wrong? Should I use defaults?
[14:56] <ikonia> no no, nothing to cause an issue
[14:56] <ikonia> so if you do "echo $PATH" now, what do you see ?
[14:57] <rud0lf_> /home/rud0lf/anaconda3/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin:/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin
[14:57] <ikonia> you have your android stuff listed 2 times
[14:57] <ikonia> but other than that, looks good
[14:59] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> hey, anyone know how to enter a backslash (\) in xdotool key event?
[14:59] <rud0lf_> Ah...I think I have also added it in .profile. But can it be the cause of the prob? Because I am still not able to execute a file in that directory.
[15:00] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: which file are you trying to execute?
[15:00] <netws> Guys in samba logs I have following message string_to_sid: SID @administration is not in a valid format, Im trying everything but I cant find a cause
[15:00] <netws> someone has an idea ?
[15:00] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, studio.sh for running android studio.
[15:01] <daftykins> netws: grep your configs for it
[15:01] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: type ls -l /media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh
[15:02] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto'
[15:02] <rud0lf_> bash: type: -l: not found
[15:02] <rud0lf_> bash: type: /media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh: not found
[15:02] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok, well you typed type
[15:02] <ikonia> there you go
[15:02] <EriC^^> but ironically it told us the file doesn't exist
[15:02] <netws> daftykins: I have this group in smb.conf in write list and read list
[15:03] <OnkelTem> Hi
[15:03] <OnkelTem> Any ideas how to upgrade bash?
[15:03] <daftykins> netws: 'this group' ?
[15:03] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, Sorry...it says the file is there.
[15:03] <netws> daftykins: @administration group
[15:03] <OnkelTem> I have 4.3.11(1)-release, but it has some critical [for me] bugs, so I'd like to upgrade it
[15:04] <rud0lf_> EriC^^,  -rwxr-xr-x 1 rud0lf rud0lf 6253 Oct 15 12:03 /media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh
[15:04] <daftykins> so comment out that line and reload and it'd likely go away
[15:04] <netws> daftykins: but it is there for some reason to restrict read operations for group @administration
[15:05] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok how are you trying to run the file?
[15:05] <daftykins> netws: right but it sounds like it doesn't like that usage, run testparm to confirm
[15:05] <EriC^^> you need to just type studio.sh to run it
[15:05] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, yeah..I am doing that only.
[15:05] <netws> daftykins: I have to recconect I will back in a momment
[15:05] <nedo> good evening
[15:05] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: try typing type studio.sh
[15:06] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, studio.sh is hashed (/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh)
[15:06] <nedo> can someone help me??
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !help | nedo
[15:07] <nedo> ok sorry
[15:07] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, I dont know. It was working yesterday. Now I cant run it from the directory also.
[15:08] <ikonia> so thats the problem you need to work on
[15:08] <ikonia> not the path one
[15:08] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: i think it's complaining about something else
[15:08] <EriC^^> ( the script itself )
[15:08] <EriC^^> maybe it uses the cwd or something
[15:09] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, if I try to run it from the directory, it says permission denied :|
[15:09] <nedo> i have installed linux mint 17.1 with dual boot on my asus..Unfortunately i have discovered that i have installed a 32-bit version instead of a 64-bit version
[15:09] <nedo> what problems could give it to me????
[15:09] <ikonia> nedo: you need to talk to mint support
[15:09] <ikonia> nedo: not ubuntu support
[15:09] <ikonia> !mint | nedo
[15:09] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: type head -1 /path/to/studio.sh
[15:10] <nedo> i apologize
[15:10] <ikonia> nedo: not a problem
[15:10] <nedo> thank you
[15:10] <netws_> daftykins: I executed testparam but nothing special beside warning about one share longer than 12 characters and older clients may have problems with it
[15:10] <nedo> good bye
[15:10] <angelica> hi i m new to linux i mast install this: wps-office-<IP_ADDRESS>68-1.a19.i686.rpm is correct if i type this: sudo apt-get install wps-office-<IP_ADDRESS>68-1.a19.i686.? in the softwer centeer or there is more to it?
[15:10] <ikonia> angelica: no
[15:11] <ikonia> angelica: rpm is not meant for ubuntu
[15:11] <rud0lf_> EriC^^,  head: cannot open ‘/path/to/studio.sh’ for reading: No such file or directory
[15:11] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: use the actual path
[15:11] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, Same error
[15:12] <angelica> aw so what i should install ?ata
[15:12] <ikonia> angelica: what do you want to install ?
[15:12] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: can you open the file somehow?
[15:12] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, I can open it with gedit.
[15:12] <angelica> i can enter in it i think is like  a unzip but duno how install stuff
[15:13] <ikonia> angelica: what do you want to install ?
[15:13] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: i think you've mounted the filesystem with noexec, or you're missing a shebang
[15:13] <angelica> wps office like
[15:13] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: check the first line for #!/something/here
[15:13] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, #!/bin/sh
[15:13] <EriC^^> type mount | grep /LinuxData
[15:14] <angelica> http://wps.com/linux/
[15:14] <angelica> i m from windows XD
[15:14] <angelica> installed xubuntu
[15:14] <daftykins> angelica: who told you to use this suite?
[15:15] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, /dev/sda12 on /media/rud0lf/LinuxData type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,data=ordered,user)
[15:15] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok, it's mounted with noexec
[15:15] <EriC^^> meaning you can't execute files
[15:15] <xahn> hi
[15:15] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: edit /etc/fstab if you want it removed
[15:15] <daftykins> angelica: is there a reason you want to use it instead of Libre Office which comes with xubuntu?
[15:16] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, so there is something wrong with my fstab. Because I added  "UUID=015be9bb-8fb7-44a7-9f2c-f712d573582e	/media/rud0lf/LinuxData	ext4	user	0	0" there
[15:16] <angelica> a compiuter guy because i ask for a low memory requirement for this pad because he lagged badly with windows xp
[15:16] <rud0lf_> The user option is wrong.
[15:16] <EriC^^> i think user lets anybody mount it, and noexec is implied with it
[15:16] <daftykins> angelica: i don't think there'd be much to gain; but you needed to pick the i386 .deb file download to install
[15:16] <EriC^^> if you want anybody to mount it, but can execute anything then use user,exec to override
[15:17] <daftykins> angelica: however, this is a very unwise method of installing software on xubuntu because it won't get updated
[15:17] <cfhowlett> angelica, wps is more demanding than libreoffice.  also, less developed and maintained.
[15:17] <ikonia> angelica: if he's out of resources on XP - this isn't going to help
[15:17] <angelica> aw so i mistake i piked the 686
[15:17] <howlymowly> hi everyone..  short question: I set my "default" python environment in ubuntu 15.10 to python 3.5 with this command:  "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python3 python3 /usr/bin/python3.5 10"  how do I change it back to python 3.4?
[15:17] <zykotick9> rud0lf_: i'd suggest you try "users" instead, just a test - might not work.
[15:17] <daftykins> angelica: you also chose an rpm which is for Redhat/CentOS
[15:17] <daftykins> angelica: do you know how much RAM you have?
[15:17] <ikonia> change 3.5 to 3.4
[15:17] <cfhowlett> angelica, exactly ^^^ .  there is a .deb available from the wps site
[15:18] <howlymowly> ikonia: done that, did not work ;)
[15:18] <angelica> i can check
[15:18] <ikonia> define did not work
[15:18] <rud0lf_> zykotick9, ok. EriC^^ there is also an option defaults which implies:  rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async.
[15:18] <howlymowly> ikonia: when I type in "python3" it still starts the python3.5 console instead of the python3.43
[15:19] <rud0lf_> or user,exec will do?
[15:19] <ikonia> howlymowly: check if the symlink has been updated
[15:19] <angelica> mm maibe not is not in the system as i used to be lol
[15:20] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: what do you want it to do?
[15:20] <howlymowly> ikonia:  /usr/bin/python3 it points to /etc/alternatives/python3  ??
[15:20] <cfhowlett> angelica, http://wps-community.org/downloads
[15:20] <angelica> don, know how check my  ram XD
[15:21] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, the drive is always attached to my PC. I just want the partition to auto mount and to be used normally.
[15:21] <angelica> ty alot
[15:21] <howlymowly> ikonia: and /etc/alternatives/python3 points back to python3.5
[15:21] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok, use defaults then
[15:22] <Turnip_Green> angelica click the icon in the top right of the desktop and select "About this computer".  It will tell you how much RAM you have.
[15:22] <howlymowly> so...  ;)  ikonia any idea, what I did wrong?  I mean the command worked to change to python3.5 from python3.4 ...
[15:22] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, defaults implies nouser. Does that mean a user can not mount or unmount it?
[15:22] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: maybe defaults,nosuid
[15:22] <EriC^^> yeah, but it will be automounted when you boot anyways
[15:22] <daftykins> angelica: if it was too bad for XP, no ubuntu will save your machine.
[15:23] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, All right... I will try :) Thanks a lot
[15:23] <angelica> well before didnt worked at all now im  talking with u :)
[15:23] <PC_Ubuntu_Guy> daftykins  depending on the spec of the XP machine, perhaps Xubuntu might work better in regard to a lighter DE
[15:24] <angelica> top right i have the clock
[15:24] <angelica> u mean left the blue mouse ?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> angelica, lubuntu is optimized for older computers.  or perhaps lubuntu.
[15:24] <Turnip_Green> Directly next to the clock
[15:24] <Turnip_Green> It looks like a small gear.
[15:25] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: no problem
[15:25] <daftykins> PC_Ubuntu_Guy: not even close if XP ran bad :P
[15:26] <angelica> i will try it but wish to try understand this a bit before i move to try and install another not quite an expert
[15:26] <PC_Ubuntu_Guy> :-) only trying to add to your helpful suggestions, as I'm not fully following the conversation for this one
[15:26] <angelica> is hard for me to find the ram because my version is in italian too
[15:26] <daftykins> angelica: perhaps #ubuntu-it has some people
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | angelica, try lubuntu first.
[15:27] <angelica> is ubunto softwere center ?
[15:27] <zykotick9> angelica: from a terminal, "free -m" might show you the RAM
[15:28] <angelica> total 1495
[15:28] <angelica> there are other voice
[15:28] <angelica> used free cache etc
[15:28] <Infamous> uff thats not alot
[15:28] <cfhowlett> angelica, ubuntu will not give you anything close to satisfactory results on that small amount of ram.  lubuntu or perhaps xubuntu.
[15:29] <zykotick9> angelica: it was the total that you wanted.
[15:29] <angelica> i have xubuntu in this not ubuntu
[15:30] <Infamous> angelica, you can just remove unity for xfce on your current installation
[15:30] <Infamous> you dont have to switch distros for that
[15:30] <angelica> yea in true was a small notepad my mom had with xp but not fuctional with 1giga i think i upgraded another 500 then put xubuntu in
[15:31] <angelica> think viruses but hardware issue too
[15:31] <daftykins> hmm not too bad, then.
[15:32] <daftykins> angelica: so yeah just use the office xubuntu came with
[15:32] <shome> What do most of you think of xfce ?
[15:32] <angelica> with this its working but i dont know to install stuff
[15:32] <shome> I happen to love it
[15:32] <daftykins> shome: this isn't a place for opinions, support only - #ubuntu-offtopic for chat :)
[15:32] <angelica> ok can read exel stuff too ?
[15:32] <daftykins> yes it has a word processor, spreadsheet... etc.
[15:33] <angelica> my main issue is not nececary the wps i wanted to install but installing stuff in general
[15:33] <angelica> clueless
[15:34] <angelica> sudo mast be  a comand line
[15:34] <angelica> since here there are no exe duno what is bin to install ?
[15:35] <cfhowlett> angelica, sudo apt install <packagenamegoeshere>
[15:36] <angelica> ok thank alot is enought the pakage name or i mast tyoe the place he is in ? like windows like c/download etc ?
[15:36] <zykotick9> angelica: additionally, if you are trying to install a DEB that you've downloaded "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[15:36] <daftykins> angelica: you never install anything that way, it's not like Windows at all.
[15:36] <angelica> nice
[15:36] <daftykins> angelica: don't install from .deb or manual downloads at all, use the software centre :)
[15:37] <zykotick9> daftykins: makes installing the requested WPS difficult...
[15:37] <daftykins> !manual | angelica might be a good idea to have a look at this
[15:37] <daftykins> zykotick9: right but we've established there's no need to install it.
[15:37] <zykotick9> daftykins: ahhh, i missed that part
[15:37] <angelica> thank alot guys
[15:37] <zykotick9> daftykins: don't get me wrong, i agree with the "stick to the repo" suggestion :)
[15:38] <daftykins> zykotick9: :)
[15:45] <angelica> :) if stuff are in zip , gz or rpm i mast umpak them before installing ?
[15:46] <teward> angelica: ZIP and .gz are just compressed files, usually containing source code that you have to compile, or they have an executable you run to install.
[15:46] <daftykins> angelica: as i've already said, you don't install software this way.
[15:46] <teward> angelica: .rpm is an already built package, but it's not for Ubuntu...
[15:47] <teward> and you don't install software this way
[15:47] <teward> (not usually)
[15:48] <angelica> ok got it :)i m hiwired on windows sr guys
[15:49] <pauljw> angelica: find the software manager for xubuntu in the menus and use it for finding and installing available files from the repositories.
[15:49] <sirscrubsalot> I have an old HP-Compaq tablet... is there a version of ubuntu that will support most of the tablet's features such as the tablet-stylus wacom features? (it originally came with windows xp tablet edition). 2gb ram / intel core duo / model : HP TC4400
[15:50] <sirscrubsalot> ~2006 was the release date of that tablet ^^
[15:52] <pauljw> angelica: it may be referred to a a package manager.
[15:53] <angelica> i see so there are some compatibile with xubuntu
[15:53] <angelica> noobwise easy to instal
[15:54] <pauljw> angelica: yes, each distro has a source of files that are compatible with it.  using the proper repositories will insure that you don't break your system installing new software
[15:55] <angelica> since there is no wps in it may i ask the libre office included in xubuntu can open a exell with pasword from office of windows cause wps could another i dont remember the name couldntt
[15:56] <angelica> abiword is here i think
[15:57] <angelica> not sure if open exel sheet to  thank all alot sr for my bad  english
[15:57] <terminator_>  who has vpn for ubuntu??
[15:59] <pauljw> angelica: i have no idea about the ability to open a password protected spreadsheet or not.  all i can say is try.
[15:59] <terminator_>  who has vpn for ubuntu??
[15:59] <angelica> installing libre office from the softwere center u gave me guys at least i think
[15:59] <angelica> sure will do:)
[15:59] <decci> I am trying to build .DEB package
[16:00] <decci> pkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package srvadmin-omilcore: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}
[16:00] <decci> I am able to build .DEB package but still I see this warning..is it serous/
[16:00] <EriC^^> decci: did you use dh_make ?
[16:00] <decci> EriC^^:yes
[16:00] <EriC^^> to make the templates?
[16:01] <decci> EriC^^: I ran debian/rules clean && build && binary which runs dh_*
[16:01] <decci> EriC^^: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[16:01] <decci> EriC^^: Its control file where we specify the shlibs dependencies
[16:01] <EriC^^> odd, i think that's standard
[16:02] <decci> EriC^^: Though I can override it on rules file, but still I want to know how to get this fxied
[16:02] <decci> fixed
[16:02] <decci> EriC^^: But looks like it is trying to execute something which it is not able to
[16:02] <EriC^^> it looks like it doesn't like the variable there
[16:03] <decci> EriC^^: override_dh_shlibdeps:         dh_shlibdeps --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info
[16:03] <EriC^^> ${shlibs:Depends}
[16:03] <decci> EriC^^: If I pass it in rules file, the warning doesnt appear
[16:03] <decci> EriC^^: but I am not sure what effect will it bring when I instal this package
[16:04] <EriC^^> decci: what are you making a package of?
[16:05] <EriC^^> and will you upload to your ppa on launchpad?
[16:06] <EriC^^> ( cause launchpad is really whiny about packages, it doesn't even like if the description contains the package name as the first word )
[16:07] <isReKT2000> well
[16:07] <isReKT2000> i'm preparing to install ubuntu (i'm downloading the iso)
[16:08] <daftykins> isReKT2000: ok?
[16:11] <decci> EriC^^: As of now I am just packaging it..no plans to put in launchpad
[16:11] <decci> EriC^^: I just want to fix dhlibs issue
[16:11] <EriC^^> decci: what is it?
[16:11] <EriC^^> c program with Makefile ?
[16:12] <decci> EriC^^: This is just a small system management tool
[16:12] <decci> EriC^^: pkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package srvadmin-omilcore: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}
[16:13] <decci> https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2001/10/msg00289.html
[16:16] <Eczan> hello guys
[16:16] <Eczan> iif anyone is available to help me with installing ubuntu please tell me
[16:18] <daftykins> Eczan: just ask when you get stuck
[16:18] <daftykins> !manual | Eczan but read here for more
[16:18] <Eczan> i have ubuntu 14.10 cd i want to add it into vmware , but there is no .iso file , only iso settings files
[16:19] <daftykins> Eczan: 14.10 is already EOL, so don't install it
[16:19] <Eczan> what is EOL ?
[16:19] <daftykins> !eol
[16:19] <daftykins> it's dead, Jim.
[16:19] <Eczan> ok
[16:20] <Eczan> !download ubuntu
[16:20] <daftykins> so grab yourself a supported release - LTS is generally best, as it'll remain in updates until 2019
[16:20] <daftykins> so grab 14.04
[16:20] <k1l_> !download
[16:20] <k1l_> Eczan: see ^
[16:20] <Eczan> a
[16:20] <Eczan> aha
[16:21] <decci> EriC^^: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566837
[16:22] <EriC^^> decci: cool
[16:22] <Eczan> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (Trusty Tahr)  ?
[16:23] <Krapulat> I’m trying to remove varnish (apt-get remove varnish; also tried apt-get remove --purge varnish) to reinstall later 4.1 and I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) . How can I do that?
[16:23] <ech0s7> i'm using a Wi-Fi dongle to connect to wifi, and configured static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:23] <ech0s7> the problem is that at boot, the wlan doesn't take automatically the address, it does if i unplug and plug at runtime, why ?
[16:23] <EriC^^> Krapulat: what was before the error?
[16:23] <ikonia> Krapulat: it should give more than just that
[16:24] <Krapulat> EriC^^, ikonia: dpkg: error processing package varnish (--purge): package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting a removal
[16:25] <ikonia> Krapulat: have you tried a reinstall ?
[16:25] <Krapulat> ikonia: yes
[16:25] <capu> hello guys, i have a problem with my Bluetooth device since one of the updates.
[16:25] <EriC^^> Krapulat: what does that say?
[16:27] <paule32> hello have problems with squid3
[16:27] <Krapulat> ikonia, EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/4yJUfUwC
[16:27] <paule32> here the php script: http://pastebin.com/p1zAkhDQ
[16:28] <paule32> and here the config: http://pastebin.com/kE3kbVGT
[16:28] <paule32> the script seems to be return always OK
[16:28] <EriC^^> Krapulat: try stopping the service before installing/removing
[16:28] <paule32> but i check the mysql database of "foo" if the site "foo" is blocked
[16:29] <hay207> hi guys, how long does pbuilder takes, it's stuck at  Retrieving Release.gpg
[16:29] <paule32> but squid3 give me no error page
[16:29] <hay207> almost 15 minutes passed now
[16:29] <Krapulat> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/fWE5m419
[16:30] <EriC^^> Krapulat: no idea
[16:30] <ioria> Krapulat, ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | grep varnish.postrm   ?
[16:31] <Krapulat> ioria: it shows “varnish.postrm”
[16:31] <ikonia> Krapulat: are you actually using 14.04 ?
[16:31] <Krapulat> ikonia: yes
[16:32] <ikonia> why are the init scripts failing
[16:32] <ikonia> what happens if you manually use those init scripts
[16:34] <Krapulat> ikonia: the problem is with varnishncsa. It can’t start because it thinks varnish is not running (but it is)
[16:34] <d0lph1n98> is there any possibilities to get a package name conflict?
[16:34] <d0lph1n98> same package name in different ppa
[16:35] <d0lph1n98> when apt-get install packagename
[16:35] <zykotick9> d0lph1n98: fyi, apt-get will choose the highest version number
[16:35] <d0lph1n98> what if there are two same version number in two different ppa?
[16:36] <genii> d0lph1n98: Yes. In such cases, usually apt will try to install the newest one, as determined by it's version number, so long as it adheres to Debian packaging guidelines
[16:36] <Krapulat> ikonia: so is it impossible to remove the package to install it later?
[16:37] <d0lph1n98> so if there are two package with same name and version number, the apt will choose based on timestamp?
[16:37] <genii> d0lph1n98: If there are two identical versions in two different locations, the first match wins ( as decided alphabetically by it's placement in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ dir
[16:38] <genii> d0lph1n98: If you want always a specific repo to be preferred, read up on pinning
[16:38] <d0lph1n98> and apt-cache search packagename will still list out both packages?
[16:38] <genii> !pinning
[16:39] <d0lph1n98> no, i just wondering how apt avoid those conflicts
[16:40] <diegoaguilar> Hello, right now build-esential package gets outdated versions of g++ compiler
[16:40] <genii> d0lph1n98: apt-cache policy packagename  lists available versions of the package, in the order which they would be installed
[16:40] <diegoaguilar> what's suggestion for getting last compilers versions
[16:40] <diegoaguilar> ?
[16:43] <d0lph1n98> diegoaguilar:
[16:43] <d0lph1n98> diegoaguilar: https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/InstallingGCC
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> d0lph1n98, ls | grep ++ outputs
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/g++-5 to /usr/bin/g++
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> sorry
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> g++
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> g++-4.6
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> g++-5
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> x86_64-linux-gnu-g++
[16:45] <OerHeks> !info gcc wily
[16:46] <OerHeks> 5.2.1-3
[16:46] <OerHeks> lts does not have the "latest"  indeed
[16:49] <paule32> hello
[16:49] <paule32> here the php script: http://pastebin.com/p1zAkhDQ
[16:49] <paule32> and here the config: http://pastebin.com/kE3kbVGT
[16:49] <paule32> but i check the mysql database of "foo" if the site "foo" is blocked
[16:50] <paule32> but squid3 give me no error page
[16:54] <daftykins> paule32: #ubuntu-server or ##networking might be more appropriate.
[17:06] <oacy> hello everyone, is it possible to make a copy image of a device mounted at /dev/mapper/luksloopX, just like you would any /dev/sdbX partition?
[17:06] <daftykins> only if it's mounted to be decrypted i presume
[17:07] <oacy> daftykins, it is mounted after having been decrypted
[17:07] <daftykins> so run it and see!
[17:07] <daftykins> this isn't the first time you've been playing around with imaging though, is it?
[17:08] <oacy> daftykins, with the same 'dd if=/dev/mapper/luksloopX..' command?
[17:08] <daftykins> i would not be using dd.
[17:08] <oacy> and which one instead?
[17:08] <daftykins> but you ignored my clonezilla suggestions the last time so :)
[17:08] <oacy> daftykins, not to ignore them, but I am not familiar with clonezilla, either
[17:08] <chrisfromgreece> Help ! I'm using ubuntu 15.10 is it safe to install AMD proprietary drivers now ??  cause they are not supported by the new kernel and the system won't boot
[17:09] <daftykins> right, you'd need to learn how to use it - but it's easy
[17:09] <chrisfromgreece> Help ! I'm using ubuntu 15.10 is it safe to install AMD proprietary drivers now ??  cause they are not supported by the new kernel and the system won't boot
[17:09] <meyou> i'm trying to create an image of an installed ubuntu machine and then push that image to new pc's. thinking pxe but i'm open to suggestions. the people on site won't be super tech-savvy, so i'd want to have a pretty short set of instructions for deploying
[17:09] <daftykins> chrisfromgreece: don't repeat yourself.
[17:09] <oacy> daftykins, does dd have a drawback?
[17:09] <meyou> anyone know of any good writeups/articles for that?
[17:09] <daftykins> chrisfromgreece: fglrx-updates might work.
[17:09] <daftykins> meyou: err no putting that task to such users sounds like a bad move
[17:10] <daftykins> oacy: yes it'll take time over all the blank space on the disk, so it's a huge waste of time :)
[17:10] <meyou> it won't be end users, just a low level tech dude
[17:10] <oacy> daftykins, oh the size is not big, not like a whole drive
[17:10] <chrisfromgreece> if doesn't boot what should i do ?
[17:10] <daftykins> chrisfromgreece: boot recovery mode and remove that package again.
[17:11] <daftykins> oacy: still, writing a bunch of zeroes is wasteful
[17:11] <daftykins> anyway just try it instead of all this chatter
[17:11] <chrisfromgreece> ok thank you i'm install it right now hope it would work
[17:11] <oacy> daftykins, I'd agree with that. but it looks more straightforward for me right now
[17:11] <daftykins> oacy: it's not. also, if it were, why did you need to come and ask?
[17:12] <daftykins> if it truly is small, you could've tested it by now
[17:13] <oacy> daftykins, I am wary of anything with dd. and my question was about whether the mapper path would make any difference in the practice
[17:14] <daftykins> yes which testing would show
[17:14] <oacy> daftykins, assume I didnt ask 'you' if it bothered that much
[17:15] <Abhijit> hi
[17:15] <daftykins> oacy: you just seem to come here every time with dd questions, when you could just experiment and learn first hand.
[17:15] <oacy> daftykins ^
[17:15] <daftykins> you won't learn for yourself if you keep asking for handout answers.
[17:15] <Abhijit> i have insntalled ffmepg as per this http://www.faqforge.com/linux/how-to-install-ffmpeg-on-ubuntu-14-04/ on my 14.04. which shows it there but clipbucket do not find it.
[17:15] <oacy> once and for all in the next sessions: assume I didnt ask anything to you. fineß
[17:15] <oacy> ?
[17:16] <daftykins> oacy: i think you're taking this too personally.
[17:24] <Eczan>  guys during installation ubuntu 14.04 which kernel should i choose
[17:24] <daftykins> are you sure you're being offered a choice? doesn't normally come up
[17:24] <HackerII> the one it comes with
[17:24] <Eczan> i have alot of choices
[17:24] <HackerII> ?
[17:24] <daftykins> Eczan: where are you seeing this?
[17:24] <Eczan> linux-signed-generic-its-vivid
[17:25] <Eczan> linux-generic-lts-vivid
[17:25] <Eczan> linux-virtual-lts-vivid
[17:25] <daftykins> but what did you do to see this...
[17:25] <Eczan> during installation on vmware
[17:25] <daftykins> of what ISO?
[17:25] <Eczan> i downloaded the iso image
[17:26] <Eczan> sec
[17:26] <daftykins> please press enter less
[17:26] <Eczan> ubuntu 14.04.3-server-amd64
[17:26] <daftykins> well that likely installed with a 3.19 kernel anyway, but i recall no step where others are chosen - or made to be chosen
[17:27] <Eczan> i chosen the one is highlighted from the beggining of the opened page
[17:27] <Eczan> i chose* beginning*
[17:27] <daftykins> what you just said doesn't make any sense to me
[17:28] <Eczan> well i will printscreen
[17:28] <Eczan> and let you see it
[17:29] <auronandace> does the server version use a text based installer?
[17:29] <Eczan> yes
[17:30] <daftykins> i don't recall any kernel choice though, unless tasksel is being buried into
[17:31] <Eczan> forget it
[17:32] <Eczan> we are here to support linux and bring new linux users , im a beginner so im sorry if you think im lied brb
[17:32] <daftykins> Eczan: you're taking this too personally, i'm just confused on what you're seeing is all.
[17:32] <Eczan> sec
[17:34] <Eczan> i wonder why it have no graphics
[17:34] <Eczan> only a purple screen and normal text format design
[17:35] <daftykins> because server doesn't use a GUI
[17:35] <Eczan> daftykins, can i please pm you ?
[17:36] <daftykins> !pm
[17:36] <daftykins> if you're uploading a screenshot, use imgur.com
[17:37] <Eczan> 4get im going to another ubuntu help channel in other server
[17:37]  * daftykins shakes his head
[17:37] <xela2244> hi, i just installed gnome on unity. But they are using same themes (gtk, icons...). How can i use different theme for gnome and unity?
[17:38] <xela2244> and i am unable to change desktop background on unity
[17:50] <bellflower> I've reinstalled my OS from 32 bit Ubuntu to 64 bit, but when trying to access my previous HD (the 32 bit system) to copy home files, it refuses to mount the partition to access the files.
[17:51] <daftykins> bellflower: so the 64-bit install is on a new hard disk?
[17:51] <bellflower> @daftykins: Yes.
[17:52] <daftykins> bellflower: both are plugged in right now? "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" would be helpful
[17:52] <bellflower> @daftykins: Put of the decision to install as new was because of running out of space on the smaller HD that the 32 bit was on.
[17:52] <bellflower> Mount gives an error ... ext4 exited with non-zero exit status 32 wrong fs type bad option bad superblock ...
[17:53] <daftykins> i'd rather see the above first
[17:54] <MelRay> I'm also joined to #proftpd. My question is how can I setup a user with root access and password to allow ftp to /var/www/html? The configuration directive to allow root access through profited is RootLogin ON/OFF. The issue obviously becomes how do I do this due to ubuntu using sudo for authentication?
[17:54] <bellflower> @daftykins: Trying to but CP from xchat to term doesn't seem to be working correctly yet.
[17:54] <delt> Hello
[17:54] <daftykins> MelRay: ftp is a bad choice for this task
[17:55] <delt> i'm trying to cross-compile my program for windows, but i'm getting this weird error from make: *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.
[17:55] <daftykins> bellflower: just type...
[17:55] <MelRay> daftykins: Ok so what is the better method to employ with a client?
[17:55] <daftykins> MelRay: create a user; add that user to www-data; chown /var/www/html/ to www-data:www-data then that user can use SCP or SFTP.
[17:56] <MelRay> daftykins: Ok great thanks a bunch!
[17:56] <bellflower> @daftykins: The first command is only showing dev/sda
[17:56] <daftykins> bellflower: the other disk must not be present, try "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:57] <daftykins> bellflower: if it hasn't failed, my guess is a bad connection... i'd check the cables if this is a desktop. also - you can look for errors from "dmesg | tail"
[17:58] <bellflower> @daftykins: It's showing sdb and all details look correct, but partition 4 isn't mounting in any file managers.
[17:58] <daftykins> what's showing sdb?
[17:58] <bellflower> @daftykins: Part. 4 is /home/
[17:59] <daftykins> i'm asking for output here but so far you've shared nothing so i can't really do much whilst blind :)
[17:59] <bellflower> @daftykins: What is best method to paste multi-line output for you to see?
[17:59] <auronandace> bellflower: just so you know irc doesn't require the @ symbol in front of the nick you are addressing
[17:59] <daftykins> "sudo fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999" perhaps.
[17:59] <daftykins> bellflower: http://paste.ubuntu.com but commands as above will produce URLs to share
[18:01] <bellflower> daftykins: Thanks for the paste url info.  Results at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249231/
[18:02] <daftykins> ok and repeat for "mount"
[18:03] <bellflower> daftykins: What was the console command to mount? (I'm still a noob)
[18:03] <daftykins> no i'm saying i want to see the output of "mount"
[18:03] <akik> bellflower: mount command by itself just lists the mounted things
[18:04] <delt> i'm trying to cross-compile my program for windows, but i'm getting this weird error from make: *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.
[18:04] <bellflower> daftykins:  This?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249269/
[18:05] <daftykins> that's the ticket
[18:05] <daftykins> bellflower: so what does "sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt" give you?
[18:06] <keepguessing> I am trying to sign the code of conduct for launchpad
[18:06] <keepguessing> I used this to do it. wget -O- https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.1/+download | gpg --clearsign | xsel --clipboard
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> keepguessing: the guys in #launchpad can help there
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> keepguessing: I had problems with it too :(
[18:07] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins /dev/sdb4 end-sector 488,396,799 is beyond the reported end of /dev/sdb 488,192,367
[18:07] <bellflower> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249296/
[18:07] <daftykins> TJ-: i guess if it'll keep erroring this one will be more up your alley :)
[18:08] <daftykins> bellflower: so what did "dmesg | tail" show?
[18:09] <bellflower> daftykins:  In short, it says Bad Geometry ... exceeds size of device.
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> bellflower: sudo fsck /dev/sdb4     may help
[18:09] <lickalott> hey guys, my client dc'd and my logs only go back to 0834.  If someone answered my question or threw an answer out can someone copy and paste it for me please?
[18:10] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins based on the /dev/sdb4 blocks count 116,477,952, the end would be expected to be at 116477952 + 255440896 -1 =  371918847
[18:10] <auronandace> lickalott: you may want to mention your timezone
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: what is the qustion?
[18:10] <bellflower> ActionParsnip: Would that risk loosing data, when the drive seems to access files and report no errors when it is installed internal as the boot device still?
[18:11] <lickalott> sorry auronandace  US - PST
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> bellflower: no, ask you have backups. You do make backups of your important data, right?
[18:11] <bellflower> Option B may be slower, but that would simply be swapping the HDs again and copy everything to a third HD before switching them back.
[18:11] <TJ-> bellflower: what does "sudo blkid /dev/sdb4" report?
[18:12] <bellflower> ActionParsnip: This is kind of an unexpected in-between backups. Rather, the backup became unreadable, so was planning to use the original (smaller HD with 32 bit OS) as a backup.
[18:12] <lickalott> ActionParsnip, trying to setup a dual monitor except the monitor I'm attempting to use is a 32" tv.  with a VGA cable things are "okay" but the clarity isn't there.  WHen I use an HDMI cable (with the resolution set the same as the laptop monitor) the launcher is off the tv/monitor screen.  I was wondering if there was an easy way to fix/address this.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[18:13] <daftykins> lickalott: check for overscan TV controls, or run them independantly so they can be at their own native resolutions
[18:13] <daftykins> HDMI is definitely preferred.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: use http://pastie.org to host the output then paste the URL in the channel
[18:13] <lickalott> sorry....forgot to add that.  There is no scalability with the HDMI interface on this particular model
[18:14] <lickalott> copy all ActionParsnip
[18:14] <daftykins> run it as extended, not resolution matching, then :)
[18:14] <regedit> hello
[18:14] <bellflower> TJ: /dev/sdb4: LABEL="Home" UUID="8a9d9c01-92d9-48c1-9810-7f3285f0220d" TYPE="ext4"
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: yes, there is no length limit in pastebin
[18:14] <lickalott> sorry....lol  copy all = I understand
[18:15] <regedit> so my small office here got a new Brother HL-3170CDW printer, happy days for anyone with Windows / Mac. What are my chances on Ubuntu?
[18:15] <regedit> http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail/1/hl3170cdw/overview#.VkYn6CCrTRY
[18:15] <port80web> crtl+a, crtl+c
[18:15] <daftykins> regedit: visit your cups web admin and see; http://localhost:631
[18:16] <lickalott> lshw output - http://pastie.org/10555185
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: oh is it a laptop?
[18:16] <regedit> this printer ^ works wirelessly too, does that make it any better or worse?
[18:16] <lickalott> the primary is, yes
[18:16] <regedit> daftykins: ok checking that out..
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: so its one of those awful switching GPU things
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: look into nvidia-prime
[18:17] <lickalott> possibly....?
[18:17] <lickalott> okay
[18:17] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: that has 0 to do with driving displays at their correct res
[18:17] <TJ-> bellflower: good, its ext4 so without upsetting the file-system you can do "sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/sdb4 | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: might be a refresh rate thing, if you want to take over then be my guest :)
[18:17] <daftykins> the intel typically draws the picture so it wouldn't be much affected
[18:17] <daftykins> ok ;)
[18:18] <antartic> I recently upgraded my hardware (cpu,mobo,ram), went from a gpxcard (gone)  to the onboard chip of my new intel i3 6100 (skylake). but I can't seem to get the intel drivers to work. system settings> details states the driver used is "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.6, 256 bits)". how do I switch to the intel drivers?
[18:18] <daftykins> lickalott: "xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:18] <daftykins> antartic: that's fine.
[18:18] <daftykins> antartic: actually, sounds like you didn't purge whatever card you had before, was it nvidia?
[18:19] <antartic> indeed
[18:19] <daftykins> antartic: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot.
[18:19] <lickalott> http://termbin.com/j0pi
[18:19] <antartic> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:20] <antartic> I think I tries that before
[18:20] <antartic> tried
[18:20] <daftykins> antartic: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:20] <regedit> daftykins: ok i actually see the printer in the Discovered Network Printers list! pretty cool. I see it twice though, once with "dnssd" schema and the other "ldp" schema, which is better?
[18:20] <bellflower> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249384/
[18:20] <regedit> TJ-: heya ;)
[18:20] <daftykins> regedit: the one that works...
[18:20] <regedit> daftykins: heh ok
[18:21] <daftykins> lickalott: that's running correctly resolution wise for a 1080p TV, so it's overlapping all 4 sides still huh? i'm sure there is a setting, usually it's just hidden or cryptic to work out.
[18:21] <lickalott> on the tv or on the laptop (via nvidia control panel)?
[18:22] <daftykins> TV, i doubt you'll see overscan in the nvidia control panel
[18:22] <daftykins> the nvidia likely does not draw the picture
[18:22] <antartic> uh... pasted it. not sure whats happening
[18:23] <daftykins> should've given you a URL to paste here.
[18:23] <antartic> no such luck.
[18:23] <regedit> daftykins: th model is HL-3170CDW which I cannot find in the model list. There's HL-3070CW BR-Script3 and HL-3070CW Foomatic/Postscript
[18:23] <bellflower> antartic: After you submit a paste, just copy the url in the address bar. It should end with numbers.
[18:24] <daftykins> antartic: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:24] <daftykins> regedit: experiment. things will not be exact
[18:24] <regedit> daftykins: the next one is HL-3260N BR-Script3. should I try the earlier one or the later one?
[18:24] <antartic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249419/
[18:25] <daftykins> regedit: try, test print, did page come out? if not, repeat.
[18:25] <Guest72280> HIII
[18:25] <regedit> i see
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> regedit: http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-3170CDW
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> regedit: install LPR, then the wrapper
[18:25] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins 'Block count' x 'Block size' (bytes) into sectors:  "echo '29119488*4096/512' | bc" => 232,955,904  which is much smaller than the claimed sdb4 partition size. So that would infer a partition table entry with Start: 255440896 Blocks: 232955904 End: 488396799. That matches the partition table, but the disk containing that table claims to have less sectors than that
[18:25] <regedit> ActionParsnip: wow thanks! ok will do
[18:25] <daftykins> antartic: as there a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[18:25] <daftykins> *is
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> regedit: Brother loves linux
[18:26] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins s/is much smaller/is the same/
[18:26] <bellflower> TJ: Could that possibly be a result of having to repair the boot sector once or twice in the past?
[18:26] <daftykins> antartic: oh i see this is not ubuntu, or you've installed a newer kernel on it that isn't normal for ubuntu. what is this?
[18:27] <antartic> it is ubuntu running on 4.3
[18:27] <daftykins> antartic: why.
[18:27] <regedit> ActionParsnip: ok the LPR installed fine, but the cupswrapper .deb complains about Cannot satisfy dependencies
[18:27] <TJ-> bellflower: The issue here *appears* to be the disk claims to have less sectors in total, than were originally used to create the partitions and file-systems within them. Has this disk beein in a Windows PC lately?
[18:27] <ubuntu972> hello, I'm getting real troubles with headers after apt-get update etc. I've update /etc/apt/sources.list with the right servers but still
[18:27] <antartic> I read that there was no/limited support for skylake GPUs in older kernels
[18:27] <ubuntu972> any tips?
[18:27] <bellflower> TJ: Not long ago I tried to dd if=dev/sdc of dev/sda  (while sdb was a live OS to make the copy). The copy failed and something rewrote the boot to see sdc as the boot drive.
[18:28] <antartic> oh right, there is a xorg.conf
[18:28] <auronandace> ubuntu972: cat /etc/issue
[18:28] <daftykins> antartic: delete it and reboot.
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> regedit: then run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[18:28] <TJ-> bellflower: so you cloned an image from 'Disk C' to 'Disk A' and what we are looking at is 'Disk A' ?
[18:28] <ubuntu972> auronandace: Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[18:28] <antartic> righto. brb
[18:28] <auronandace> !14.10 | ubuntu972
[18:29] <daftykins> !eol | ubottu you must upgrade
[18:29] <daftykins> oops tab complete fail
[18:29] <auronandace> ubuntu972: you need to use a supported release
[18:29] <daftykins> ubuntu972: EOL ^
[18:29] <TJ-> daftykins: you weren't wrong though!
[18:29] <dhiru> sa
[18:29] <bellflower> TJ: Right. This (sdb4) is the "Home" of the original I had tried to copy. It was repaired using boot-repair twice in the past, since the OS install.
[18:29] <regedit> ActionParsnip: no the .deb doesnt even allow to install due to the dependencies error. Looking into the install instructions i see it says "ia32-libs or lib32stdc++ is required to be installed." maybe it's that? how do i check if i have those
[18:29] <daftykins> TJ-: on the EOL? :>
[18:30] <TJ-> bellflower: OK, so you broke it. 'Disk A' is smaller than the original 'Disk C'. You need to work with 'Disk C'
[18:30] <ubuntu972> daftykins how can I upgrade a VPS lol
[18:30] <TJ-> daftykins: on the 'you must upgrade' yes :)
[18:30] <ubuntu972> ok thank you
[18:30] <regedit> ActionParsnip: i.o.w. i opened the .deb with QApt and it doesnt allow to proceed
[18:30] <bellflower> TJ: I suspect some corruption since the reported total size would lose a few megs of space after each of those repairs.
[18:30] <daftykins> ubuntu972: create a new one, migrate your data. don't upgrade.
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> regedit: use terminal, the output is useful
[18:30] <TJ-> bellflower: no corruption - the target disk of the clone operation is simply smaller than the source disk
[18:30] <ubuntu972> daftykins thanks
[18:30] <regedit> ActionParsnip: how do i apt install a .deb from terminal
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> regedit: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:31] <bellflower> TJ: Ohh, no.  Current disk A is the newer 1TB I am trying to move to. Disk B (on USB adapter) is the original (a 250GB HDD).
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> regedit: its a single line, no need to pastebin
[18:31] <regedit> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[18:31] <daftykins> regedit: if this is printer related and you've skipped the above testing, then you're likely going to make things worse for yourself by installing things you find online...
[18:31] <bellflower> TJ: But the 250 had been repaired a few times and only reads as about 240GB (more or less).
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> regedit: ok cool.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> regedit: to install deb files:  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/filename.deb
[18:32] <regedit> daftykins: why, cups wizard would install 32bit dependencies automatically?
[18:32] <TJ-> bellflower: I'm talking about what is currently /dev/sdb. That physical disk is *smaller* than the partition table/file-systems on it describe. Is /dev/sdb a cloned image?
[18:32] <daftykins> regedit: what did you get...
[18:32] <antartic> it seems to have worked! :D
[18:32] <bellflower> TJ: No. Not a clone. It's the original.
[18:33] <regedit> daftykins: ActionParsnip seems to have linked to an official installations packages/steps for the exact model from manufacturer
[18:33] <antartic> details now state "Intel® HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) " thank you so much!
[18:33] <TJ-> bellflower: then it has lost a large part of the sector making up partition 4.
[18:33] <bellflower> TJ: But sdb1 is a copy of Windows that was once used in a laptop that had Absolute Computrace, which is bad for writing "hidden data" on HDs.
[18:33] <regedit> daftykins: http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-3170CDW
[18:33] <daftykins> regedit: i see, so you are indeed skipping the testing of what's built in
[18:34] <daftykins> well, have fun :)
[18:34] <TJ-> bellflower: "sudo hdparm -N /dev/sdb | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[18:34] <regedit> daftykins: is it really that much better than dpkg installing the manufacturer packages and fixing them?
[18:34] <TJ-> bellflower: I suspected a Host Protected Area issue might be the cause; lets check that with the command above
[18:35] <daftykins> regedit: yes, because every action you perform with a .deb will not get updated - installing .deb's is unwise
[18:35] <daftykins> it should be considered a last resort.
[18:35] <regedit> daftykins: whereas from cups it will?
[18:35] <daftykins> ...
[18:36] <bellflower> TJ: The running kernel lacks CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL support for this device.
[18:36] <bellflower>  READ_NATIVE_MAX_ADDRESS_EXT failed: Invalid argument /dev/sdb:
[18:36] <bellflower> TJ: That's all that it shows.
[18:37] <TJ-> bellflower: what kernel is that ("uname -a") ?
[18:37] <ubuntu972> what is the support for 15.4
[18:37] <ubuntu972> I mean till when?
[18:37] <daftykins> ubuntu972: don't run it on a VPS, go back to 14.04 and create a new one.
[18:37] <lickalott> no love daftykins.   ActionParsnip, nvidia-prime is already installed.
[18:38] <daftykins> ubuntu972: January
[18:38] <bellflower> TJ: Linux tinkerbell 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:38] <daftykins> lickalott: i told you that wouldn't work
[18:38] <ubuntu972> january 2016?
[18:38] <daftykins> ubuntu972: yip
[18:38] <lickalott> i was just answering him, I didn't use it for anything
[18:38] <lickalott> that could've been on two different lines
[18:38] <ubuntu972> there is any long term support edition?
[18:39] <Glorfindel> ok, this was happening while I was on 14.04 too, but on 15.10, if I close the laptop screen, it will sleep. which is fine. but when I open the screen it wakes, and shows an openbox password prompt
[18:39] <daftykins> lickalott: i'm confident it's down to TV settings, give it more of a try
[18:39] <daftykins> ubuntu972: see where i said install 14.04?
[18:39] <Glorfindel> which doesn't accept any of my passwords
[18:39] <lickalott> daftykins, that's what I was referring to.  THere aren't any controls on this tv (Vizio POS) for scaling
[18:39] <lickalott> "no love"
[18:39] <daftykins> lickalott: it's not scaling, it's overscan
[18:39] <regedit> daftykins: ok ok i retraced my steps and will be doing the testing phase. BR Script 3 or Foomatic/Postscript ?
[18:40] <daftykins> regedit: just experiment, it doesn't work -> delete -> start again.
[18:40] <regedit> gotcha
[18:40] <TJ-> bellflower: hmmm, something not right there. Give me a moment to check on a 14.04 system
[18:40] <ubuntu972> daftykins I've read it I think if I have to go back to same version so perhaps I can fixe it no?
[18:40] <bellflower> lickalott: Vizio isn't too terribly bad (I've seen much worse), but they left out a lot of the manu features in the manuals. Most has to be randomly discovered by the users.
[18:40] <daftykins> ubuntu972: no, create a new VPS on 14.04 -> migrate your data -> delete the other
[18:41] <regedit> daftykins: wait a minute, there's an option "Or provide a PPD file". Would that be referring to something i can download from the manufacturer?
[18:41] <bellflower> lickalott: So your issue may have more to do with your TV settings, than anything to do with your system.
[18:41] <lickalott> only selections I have are DNR, Black/White level extender, CTI, flesh tone, Adaptive Luma, and DCR.  None of which do anything special for my situation.
[18:41] <lickalott> that's what I'm thinking.  I just wanted to shoot it off of the big brains before I gave up
[18:42] <lickalott> looks like VGA it is
[18:42] <frenda> Error opening default ALSA device: No such file or directory ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249513/ ---> What does it mean? (I can listen to mp3 files)
[18:42] <bellflower> lickalott: The HDMI is a much cleaner and better option. It took me a while to get mine working 100% but unfortunately cannot recall where I found it in the TV's menu settings.
[18:43] <daftykins> regedit: i'm going to stop replying now, because you need to think for yourself here.
[18:43] <lickalott> i remember having a similar issue on my server at home and just said screw it and went with DVI
[18:43] <daftykins> lickalott: that doesn't sound like the full settings a display would offer
[18:44] <lickalott> In that research I remember manipulating a file (resolution file) and playing with those values until it fit the screen.
[18:44] <regedit> mkay i'm gonna see if the vendor has a PPD file i can use...
[18:44] <lickalott> daftykins, the HDMI on this is limited.  I have all kinds of options for VGA, to include overscan and scaling
[18:45] <daftykins> lickalott: and you're on which ubuntu version again?
[18:45] <bellflower> lickalott: I believe there are some scaling controls, or may only be a few presets and "auto", they are just not easy to find and not where you might intuitively expect.
[18:45] <lickalott> i literally spent $50 on this yesterday from a buddy.  it's not top quality by any stretch.
[18:45] <daftykins> lickalott: i'd make it so the HDMI display is the only output and see if it behaves any differently.
[18:45] <lickalott> 15.10 daftykins
[18:45] <lickalott> i tried that.  same same....
[18:46] <daftykins> and then as crazy as it sounds, try another HDMI cable
[18:46] <lickalott> on my third one today.
[18:46] <daftykins> heh
[18:46] <TJ-> bellflower: I've looked at the Linux and hdparm source-code. The error report is misleading. No Intel/AMD based CPU kernels have support for that option. What is happening is in hdparm - it tries to read the device with a call to the standard 'SCSI Generic' syscall which fails, so hdparm 'falls back' to a 'legacy' method which tries to invoke the IDE_TASK_IOCTL call, which doesn't exist and therefore fails.
[18:46] <daftykins> ok, obviously it's a cheap and rubbish display causing quirks
[18:46] <lickalott> ^^
[18:46] <bellflower> lickalott. What model is the Vizio TV? I'll see what I can find if it is similar to mine. I get them because they are half the price of any PC monitor of similar size.
[18:46] <daftykins> it might work from another system with HDMI *shrug*
[18:47] <kamikazeattacks> Hello !!! Do you know a name of a distro which uses unofficial desktop environment, excluding popular environments like GNOME, KDE etc. ? :)
[18:47] <lickalott> bellflower, VX32L
[18:47] <TJ-> bellflower: so, it looks like a symptom of the failing disk. It doesn't look like there is much you can do to recover things. That disk would need expert handling. I'd recommend unplugging it to protect what data remains
[18:47] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: you mean like ubuntu gnome and kubuntu? ...
[18:48] <kamikazeattacks> daftykins, No. I mean unpopular desktop environment. :)
[18:48] <bellflower> kamikazeattacks: Try "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" . It's what I use most and has a nice clean and lean look and feel. Very efficient.
[18:48] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: ah sorry, misread
[18:48] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: better question for ##linux as this is ubuntu only
[18:49] <TJ-> bellflower: let's check its health with "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"