[05:51] <Shuggle> tritium: That's the first thing that I thought. With my experience, I had no problem configuring both of my system as dual boot. I was wondering if this might be some sort of bug that I would need to guard for when attempting another set up on his system. (he still wants ubuntu, if he can get it without losing all his data.. again)
[05:51] <Orion1357> I just got this bad feeling that Gnome was using something I removed.
[05:51] <xGeek> WGGMk: That's WGA. A completely different monster.
[05:51] <xGeek> WGGMk: Windows is not a nice OS to work with.
[05:51] <WGGMk> Orion1357: thats not a very good way to uninstall an application (for future reference)
[05:52] <fragged_> Shuggle, if in doubt back up the entire hard drive (if your anything like me or most of my geek friends, having ~250gb of free space is not rare)
[05:52] <WGGMk> xGeek: ahh.. havent used windows (other then a coaster) for some times
[05:52] <Orion1357> Thanks.  But I guess I'm still in learning mode here.
[05:52] <WGGMk> *time
[05:52] <neo> anyone here??
[05:52] <xGeek> WGGMk: I make a lot of money fixing very simple stuff on windows machines.
[05:52] <Orion1357> If the bad news is I must do a total reinstall, just say so.
[05:52] <xGeek> WGGMk: can also be a hassle too though.
[05:52] <loltto> on the http://www.ubuntu.com/ site when downloading whats the part about the alternate ""LIVE"" desktop CD all about
[05:52] <fragged_> no neo all 1135 of the members are away
[05:53] <Shuggle> fragged_: fortunately, he has complete backups all the way through monday afternoon
[05:53] <neo> hehe,this is the first time i use IRC!:)
[05:53] <WGGMk> Orion1357: every starts somewhere.. the quick solution would be to hit CTRL+ALT+F1 (which will bring you to a command line) log in.. shutdown gnome ("sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop") and reinstall Evolution (need help with package name)
[05:53] <neo> Thanks fragged
[05:53] <WGGMk> xGeek: I deal with enough Windows at work.. 2003 server's crashing every other week..
[05:53] <Orion1357> Tried that.   "sudo apt-get install evolution"
[05:54] <UnWorthy> yeah if you take your ram out and put it back in you can to reactivate windows...
[05:54] <Orion1357> But I got an error
[05:54] <fragged_> loltto, 'live' cds are cds that run entirely off the CD there does not need to be any data transferred to or from the hard drive... they are generally slow and jolty, like when the CD spins down and you run a program it can take a while for it to load
[05:54] <UnWorthy> have to*
[05:54] <WGGMk> Orion1357: which was?
[05:54] <xGeek> WGGMk: I know this is cliche, but I tell all my clients to reboot their 2k3 servers every friday.
[05:54] <Orion1357> "could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[05:54] <WGGMk> xGeek: lol.. do you have RDP5 login's at all? ever get that "resource or domain not available"??
[05:54] <UnWorthy> you guys are the uber g33ks <3 you talk you do ubuntu tech support for fun <4
[05:55] <fragged_> WGGMk, I work somewhere with Windows 2k3 servers and they seem relatively stable unless you can blame them from power outages caused by crappy lines...
[05:55] <loltto> fragged_>can a live cd have the option of installing to hard drive or just runs of cdrom???
[05:55] <xGeek> WGGMk: no but I get disconnected a lot.
[05:55] <soneil> fragged_: servers without UPSes is just silly
[05:55] <WGGMk> Orion1357: I assume your on a different machine? is the ubuntu machine connected? try pinging google? sudo apt-get update first then try again
[05:55] <fragged_> loltto, some do, some tell you they do and dont, and some just dont, unsure about Ubuntu
[05:55] <xGeek> WGGMk: "protocol error" I still haven't figured that one out.
[05:56] <Orion1357> No.  On same machine.  Have a XP/Ubuntu dual boot.
[05:56] <fragged_> soneil, 20 servers, not enough UPS to last out an entire weekend (and THAT would be just silly)
[05:56] <UnWorthy> so can someone do me a huge favor....find the ms support that talks about fixing hal.dll errors....WGGMk....
[05:56] <WGGMk> fragged_: this would be open to debate.. i work at a VERY large distribution center.. and those servers process a LOT of date.. which anyone can tell you Windows is particularly bad at data processing
[05:56] <Orion1357> Maybe the server was down temporarily?
[05:56] <UnWorthy> since it's soooo easy
[05:56] <xGeek> UnWorthy: I sent you a link to the fix earlier.
[05:56] <soneil> fragged_: just expensive in that case
[05:57] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: as i can give you advice, im not going to do legwork for you. several people have given you solutions.. sorry if this sounds harsh
[05:57] <UnWorthy> sry could I have it again?
[05:57] <tritium> UnWorthy: this channel is for ubuntu support.  PLease see ##windows for your request.
[05:57] <fragged_> WGGMk, Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying that windows is the best software for all tasks, but usually crappy programs are the cause to an unstable server, both in windows and *nix
[05:57] <UnWorthy> thank tritium....sry
[05:57] <WGGMk> xGeek: im not really sure how Windows can get away with leaving error's vauge and general as they do
[05:57] <fragged_> UnWorthy, or google, you know, if you KNOW how to google
[05:58] <WGGMk> fragged_: im with you on that one.. and we do have some "crappy" software
[05:58] <xGeek> WGGMk: For one error microsoft.com normally has 3 - 6 'solutions'
[05:58] <WGGMk> fragged_: but software crashing and the entire OS locking up are different issues
[05:58] <xGeek> WGGMk: sometimes none of which work
[05:59] <fragged_> WGGMk, the entire system locking up can be caused by drivers, or just bad hardware, I've seen windows systems run for months
[05:59] <WGGMk> xGeek: by any chance, have you taken any MS's courses.. inparticular the MSCA course? i nearled laughed when they were teaching it
[05:59] <Shuggle> is there a good program to make those restore cds that come with new computers, but for linux?
[05:59] <xGeek> WGGMk: I took A+ and I'm working on my bachelors. I think I'm going to skip MS and go for my CCNA.
[05:59] <Shuggle> err... can I make restore cds for linux/raw partitions?
[05:59] <UnWorthy> http://support.etechnologyit.net/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25
[06:00] <WGGMk> xGeek: i dont get how MS says this is the way it WILL work.. when you can have millions of different combinations of hardware that can radically change the environment so it DOESNT work MS's way
[06:00] <UnWorthy> who thinks this hal.dll fix is correct?
[06:00] <UnWorthy> on that link
[06:00] <WGGMk> xGeek: i would recommend CCNA over any MS course.. if you happen to get Security+ and Network+ cert's.. they will be highly respected over any MS cert
[06:00] <thirso> I'm trying to "auto-mount" my windows network shared folder with samba by adding this line to fstab: //main/music     /media/music        cifs   auto,credentials=/home/thirso/.smbpasswd,workgroup=MSHOME,gid=smb,uid=1000,file_mode=700,dir_mode=700,rw       0       0 . But i keep getting this error message: WARNING: 'file_mode' not expressed in octal.
[06:01] <WGGMk> xGeek: add Server+ in there
[06:01] <xGeek> WGGMk: Agreed. I would prefer not the be stuck in a windows environment later on in life.
[06:01] <UnWorthy> xGeek I'm taking a college class for my A+ and Net+ :)
[06:01] <UnWorthy> half way through A+
[06:02] <WGGMk> fragged_: i have a home server running Linux amd64 that needed to be restarted because my ISP dropped out.. figure that one out
[06:02] <xGeek> WGGMk: I'm currently the IT manager for a small firm that runs nothing but apple. It has definitely been a much nicer experience than some of my 2k3 server clients.
[06:02] <WGGMk> xGeek: ok, that concludes our conversation.. i have a bane for Apple's
[06:02] <UnWorthy> •xGeek• how much experience did you put on your resume?
[06:02] <UnWorthy> just the A+?
[06:02] <xGeek> WGGMk: haha.. I don't like apples. I deal with them because they make me money.
[06:03] <xGeek> WGGMk: They are over priced. However, being based on BSD and from experience I think they run much cleaner than any MS OS.
[06:03] <ta1> How do I go about recompiling a kernel with an additional module(ieee1394)?  Is there somewhere that has a good tutorial?
[06:03] <WGGMk> xGeek: i deal with them because Apple says we have to deal with them.. they are nice.. run smooth.. i cry at compatibily with others.. and lets face it.. Apple's a bit behind the times as far as software updates (bleeding edge rather)
[06:04] <xGeek> WGGMk: very much so.
[06:04] <ploom> xGeek, I agree that least no anti-virus or too much malware
[06:04] <naitse> alojasss
[06:04] <naitse> una preguntonta
[06:04] <xGeek> WGGMk: in my opinion apple doesn't sell software. they are a hardware vendor who happens to have a proprietary OS.
[06:04] <UnWorthy> •xGeek• you sound like your doing alright for just an A+
[06:05] <naitse> instale los drivers de nvidia en ubuntu 7.10
[06:05] <naitse> y ahora la pantalla es como que esta mas grande el desktop que el monitor :P
[06:05] <WGGMk> xGeek: if they went open source.. i think MS would be in serious trouble
[06:05] <xGeek> UnWorthy: I put all of my freelance work on my resume and have lots of good local business references.
[06:05] <fragged_> WGGMk, I dont understand why your telling me to figure it out? I'd assume it'd be an issue with the network, be that software or hardware, being so vague doesnt help, and the fact that I'm relatively new to linux (one year) doesnt make me a know all. What I do know is that I'm sick of these blatant fanboy attacks on other operating systems, sure most people here probbably prefer a linux environment, and mac users enjoy theres, bu
[06:05] <fragged_> t windows (bar vista) is actually pretty good at most basic tasks, and is also easier for small businesses where nobody has a clue about linux (if even heard of it before).
[06:05] <naitse> y para llegar a los lados es como que corro la pantalla con el mouse
[06:05] <Darkmystere> I cant get VMware Workstation to run...
[06:05] <UnWorthy> ahh very good...see I have no experience....experience is...it
[06:07] <Darkmystere> ...Could some 1 help me i cant get VMware Workstation to Run?
[06:07] <dreamnid> !es | naitse
[06:07] <ubotu> naitse: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:07] <WGGMk> fragged_: will all respect, im not a fanboy. I HAVE to deal with several different OS's on daily bases.. and FROM MY EXPERIENCES with them, being workstation or server or thin client. Ive had more trouble with Windows then any other OS out there
[06:07] <xGeek> fragged_: I don't consider myself a fanboy at all. However the flaw in your argument is this: small business need to do very simple tasks such as send email and use office applications. Linux or X whether it be KDE or Gnome has the ability to put icons on the desktop the same as windows. I don't see the difference.
[06:07] <thirso> naitse: nvidia-settings
[06:07] <fragged_> Darkmystere, I'm sure VMWare's webpage has support, or just being more descriptive might help ;)
[06:07] <UnWorthy> anyone read that funny article about that linux guy going into a best buy and putting the liveCD of ultimate on one of the displays and all the geeksquad guys gather around in awe...
[06:07] <ploom> WGGMk, MS won't be in trouble too much - the last thing theyll do would be reinventing some special form of open source'ry too
[06:08] <ploom> WGGMk, actually they already have the license texts available - google for Microsoft Open Source ;-)
[06:08] <xGeek> Small business applications are the same basically across all platforms.
[06:08] <Darkmystere> fragged_: Well i tried running in terminal it waits a free seconds asks for pass (using gksudo) And then it returns command prompt leaving me with no window..
[06:08] <UnWorthy> http://support.etechnologyit.net/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25
[06:08] <WGGMk> ploom: i was referring to Apple going Open Source
[06:08] <fragged_> xGeek, the difference in many areas is still the lack of support, where I'm working now we have discussed running linux, but as I am only a temp, and the only one with a clue (and not an extensive one) about the OS and how stuff works both in house and likely in-town, it'd be hard to get any support once I'm gone,
[06:08] <UnWorthy> someone goto that link and tell me if thats the way to fix the hal.dll?
[06:09] <ploom> WGGMk, and I was refferring to MS being in trouble (not)
[06:09] <UnWorthy> read it!
[06:09] <UnWorthy> In RARE cases this may not solve the problem. When this happens you have 3 choices.<
[06:09] <UnWorthy> 1. Copy the hal.dll file from another system to C:\windows\system32
[06:09] <UnWorthy> 2. Perform a repair installation of Windows XP
[06:09] <UnWorthy> 3. Format and Reinstall Windows XP onto the system
[06:09] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <unagi_> anyone know what kdes default battery applet is called?
[06:10] <WGGMk> fragged_: your adding another element to the equation though. support....
[06:10] <UnWorthy> option number 3 was the only options...after installing ubuntu!
[06:10] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: why dont you try the solution that is presented yourself to see if it works????
[06:11] <UnWorthy> I did
[06:11] <ploom> fragged_, last time for you to train an apprentice
[06:11] <UnWorthy> it didn't work...expanding the hal.dl_ to c:\windows\system32\hal.dll DID NOT WORK
[06:11] <UnWorthy> one of the "rare cases"
[06:11] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: then put the Windows CD and repair the OS.. its an option
[06:11] <UnWorthy> so what then? if it's a "rare case"
[06:11] <naitse> Hi, need little help
[06:12] <UnWorthy> I did not recieve that option
[06:12] <fragged_> WGGMk, dont get me wrong, I would avoid using a windows network long term as a preference but as far as the original argument went, you think M$ is crap because of instabilities? the server editions in particular are relatively good at core stability but it also comes down to drivers which are to do with the venedor anyway
[06:12] <UnWorthy> I got reinstall
[06:12] <Greevous> anyone know what app is used to play system sounds? As in running a command to play a specific sound
[06:12] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: have you heard of the term PEBKAC?
[06:12] <UnWorthy> no I have not
[06:12] <UnWorthy> please enlighten me
[06:12] <naitse> my desktop is more big than the monitor screen... and i must use the mouse to see the edges :S
[06:12] <UnWorthy> more big?
[06:12] <UnWorthy> or bigger?
[06:13] <fragged_> naitse, nvidia-settings, or set the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: I would suggest you re-read (carefully) the solution. then research on how you can "repair" your operating system
[06:13] <UnWorthy> yeah...yeah it's bigger
[06:13] <ploom> UnWorthy, well - you still have your partitions? Can you see the other files in your windows partition??
[06:13] <naitse> i installed the nvidia video driver
[06:13] <naitse> yhea bigger
[06:13] <Darkmystere> Ok,now im getting somewhere its saying wasnt configured correctly but when i run the command it says file not found
[06:13] <UnWorthy> yeah
[06:13] <ploom> Greevous, there are many options, one of them is aplay
[06:13] <UnWorthy> but see something odd happens...in the recovery console I can't axx my 2nd HD
[06:13] <UnWorthy> my "storage" hard drive...
[06:14] <Greevous> ploom: is aplay installed by default?
[06:14] <UnWorthy> otherwise I would make a copy of hal.dll and put it on the other drive
[06:14] <WGGMk> fragged_: well yes and no.     I'm still working on getting even further from computers professionally tho.  perfect way to ruin a good hobby
[06:15] <ePax> Its "barely" that 95% of earth population knows what linux is.
[06:15] <Greevous> ploom: okay, thank you very much
[06:15] <nemilar> UnWorthy: you realize that is about 97% of the population
[06:15] <ePax> (;
[06:16] <nemilar> 100% of the population of people that have used the internet, have used linux,though ;)
[06:16] <mandel> can help me somebady with instaling the zapp z010 modem...?!
[06:16] <WGGMk> soneil: is does make it difficult to log on my computers/servers at home
[06:16] <ploom> Greevous, in ubuntu it depends on your sound settings, but alsa should work always and esd would be just on top of that
[06:16] <fragged_> WGGMk, I near-agree with you, but Linux also has some flaws, and while instability is not one of them, unfortunately usability, public knowlege and specialized knowlege are. This will change in time and unless Windows comes up with some incredible stuff in the next decade I can see Linux taking more of a buisiness share
[06:17] <WGGMk> soneil: in fact i have an issue (for about 2 weeks now) with DansGuardian not being able to start and have no desire to trouble shoot it untill today.. and even then im distracted by other's situations
[06:17] <ploom> fragged_, still - how about mentoring apprentice some day?
[06:17] <fragged_> ploom, I'm 17, theres still a bit of time for that ;)
[06:18] <ePax> ubuntu + nvidia = what a l000ve
[06:18] <ePax> :D
[06:18] <musikgoat> there isn't a default vnc server in xubuntu?  any recommendations ?
[06:18] <Juzzy`> I've just used gparted on a live cd to extend my / partition from 10gb to 20gb
[06:18] <Juzzy`> But once i reboot it still only shows 10gb
[06:18] <UnWorthy> thats weird...one of the possible fixes for a hal.dll error is to....bootcfg/rebuild and a fixboot?
[06:18] <WGGMk> fragged_: in comparison to servers.. I believe Linux will always be a more powerful OS. but your right.. Linux does have a long way to go before coming into the Desktop area. but you must admit that the dev's with Ubuntu (lets not forget Debian) are definatly stepping up the game
[06:18] <fragged_> musikgoat, VNC is VNC, I mean afaik its a standard protocol, any crap server will be nuked and so your left with a few good ones
[06:18] <Juzzy`> gparted shows 20 though
[06:18] <ploom> fragged_, I hope you have part-time job next to school then :-) 26 here...
[06:19] <UnWorthy> but but but...what does hal.dll have to do with a fixboot??
[06:19] <fragged_> ploom, In australia, doing a TAFE certificate, school + work part time, and hopefully uni next year =)
[06:19] <Juzzy`> When resizing a root partition do you need to tell it to use the new free space?
[06:19] <fragged_> UnWorthy, hal.dll is to do with windows #windows may help more
[06:19] <ploom> fragged_, cool - I have a friend at Australia too - almost for a year now. Studying and working.
[06:20] <Juzzy`> <- Adelaide, Australia
[06:20] <UnWorthy> oh thats the answer
[06:20] <musikgoat> different utilities sometimes work better in different desktop env, I'm running ubuntu, but my lab partner is running xubuntu on our machine,  anyone recommend a good walk through to help him, or a command line install that I can do?
[06:20] <UnWorthy> f off
[06:20] <fragged_> Juzzy`, I do believe I've seen your alias before, valhalla yes?
[06:20] <Juzzy`> Yes :P
[06:20] <UnWorthy> to #windows right?
[06:21] <WGGMk> so, Im having an issue with DansGuardian hanging on start (sudo /etc/init.d/dansguardian start) and im missing the *.pid file in /var/run. anyone have a clue?
[06:21] <ePax> UnWorthy: Whats the problem? Do you have dualboot and cant boot MS?
[06:21] <UnWorthy> no I did
[06:21] <UnWorthy> and I want to reinstall ubuntu
[06:22] <fragged_> musikgoat, XUbuntu is very similar to Ubuntu, like its still using apt synaptics etc so if he is learning just install whatever your using to show him, let him make his own software choices once he's more confortable with his new os :)
[06:22] <UnWorthy> but when I installed it for a dual boot I had to format and reinstall windows...and ubuntu...
[06:22] <ePax> UnWorthy: Ok. Install win first then ubuntu.
[06:22] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: no one is telling you to "f off" nor is anyone NOT giving you solutions. YOU are failing to take the advice thats being given to you. Your missing hal.dll. a mate in here told you its a problem with boot.ini (being outdated) and you would need to repair it so it know's where hal.dll is
[06:22] <musikgoat> fragged_: good point
[06:23] <ePax> UnWorthy: If you have problems with boot you can fix them without reinstalling any of your systems.
[06:23] <UnWorthy> I'm on XP
[06:23] <Juzzy`> fragged_, why won't linux recognise that i've resized my partition from 10gb to 20gb
[06:24] <UnWorthy> with a bootcfg/rebuild and a fixboot?
[06:24] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: what do you mean resized?
[06:24] <UnWorthy> or a fixmbr?
[06:24] <Juzzy`> resized the partition useing gparted
[06:24] <fragged_> Not entirely sure, I stay away from partitioning D:, hell I lost my vista cd with my laptop (and later found it scratched up and tossed it aside anyway :P)
[06:24] <ePax> Juzzy`: Its meybe resized but not mounted. Gparted can fix that.
[06:24] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: is it partitioned with a file system?
[06:24] <Juzzy`> ePax, it has to be mounted, i'm using it
[06:24] <Juzzy`> yeah
[06:25] <Juzzy`> I just resized the extfs to 20gb
[06:25] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: have you tried restarting?
[06:25] <Juzzy`> yup
[06:25] <Juzzy`> i'll try again but dunno if that'll fix anything
[06:25] <Juzzy`> gparted shows 20gb
[06:25] <Juzzy`> but it still shows the same amount of free space as before resizing
[06:25] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: all on the same partition?
[06:25] <UnWorthy> •ePax• how would I fix a hal.dll problem...I tried expanding the hal.dl_ from the recovery console...and I tried a fixboot
[06:25] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, its all on the same drive
[06:26] <UnWorthy> I'm not interested in some MS tech support I just don't want to have to reinstall AGAIN if I'm going to install ubuntu AGAIN
[06:26] <fragged_> UnWorthy, this is LINUX chat, not windows WINDOWS CHAT IS FOR WINDOWS
[06:26] <UnWorthy> I'm not interested in some MS tech support I just don't want to have to reinstall AGAIN if I'm going to install ubuntu AGAIN
[06:26] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: are there multi OS's or just Linux? which parition? swap, root?
[06:26] <Juzzy`> I've got XP, Linux, Swap, Data(ntfs)
[06:26] <Juzzy`> in that order
[06:26] <Tobias92> Hey ubuntu people. The built-in drivers seem to load my WinTV USB tv-card but when I try to play /dev/video0 with mplayer, it dies without an apparent reason
[06:27] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: when you installed Linux, did you custom partition or is everyone on root and swap?
[06:27] <ePax> UnWorthy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=605234
[06:27] <Juzzy`> I just did 10gb manual partitoin for / and auto for swap
[06:28] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: not to be rude but did you resize / or swap?
[06:28] <Juzzy`> i resized / from 10 to 20gb
[06:28] <fragged> Juzzy`, read pm (Unrelated to personal chat) you also need to identify to nickserv to respond =)
[06:28] <Juzzy`> k
[06:28] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: fdisk -ls in terminal might need sudo (pastebin your output
[06:28] <Juzzy`> i'll add you
[06:29] <Juzzy`> k
[06:29] <Juzzy`> WGGMk,  i'll do that, gimme a min
[06:29] <bod_> doea anyone know where i can get the source code for tuxeyes?
[06:29] <fragged> =) brb
[06:29] <kahrytan> Whereis the Source list for apt?
[06:29] <fragged> bod_, generally Gentoo repos are a good place for sources =)
[06:29] <WGGMk> kahrytan: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:29] <bod_> fragged, hey, whats a Gentoo repo?
[06:31] <bod_> ???????
[06:31] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, http://pastebin.com/d3dc4f34c
[06:31] <baalsgate> hi is there a specific place where the user is setup for automatic login to x with mythbuntu ?
[06:32] <bod_> baalsgate, try asking in #mythbuntu
[06:32] <ta1> Pros
[06:33] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: odd, /dev/sda2            1308        3850    20426647+  83  Linux
[06:33] <ta1> Any Pros/cons for Grub2?
[06:33] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: says its 20gis
[06:33] <Juzzy`> yearh
[06:33] <WGGMk> *gigs
[06:33] <Juzzy`> but when I look in Computer, it says 10gb
[06:33] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: was this previously unpartitioned space before?
[06:34] <Juzzy`> no
[06:34] <Juzzy`> this was my 10gb linux partition
[06:34] <Juzzy`> i simply resize/moved my data partition
[06:34] <Juzzy`> and moved the swap partition
[06:34] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: yes, what im saying is where did the extra 10gb come from? was the NEW 10gb's previously unpartitioned
[06:34] <Juzzy`> and resized the / partition to 20gb
[06:34] <bod_> fragged, whats a Gentoo repo?
[06:34] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, nah it wasn't
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:27am] <UnWorthy> it was the strangest thing
[06:35] <Juzzy`> the new 10gb came from space i freed up
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <xwin> HAL.DLL? May be you tried to install Ubuntu ?
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <UnWorthy> yes
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <UnWorthy> !!
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <xwin> yeap!
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <UnWorthy> what what?!
[06:35] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:36] <bod_> !enter | UnWorthy
[06:36] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:36] <WGGMk> !spam
[06:36] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !English - and most importantly, use common sense...
[06:37] <Juzzy`> !askthebot wtf
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about askthebot wtf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <WGGMk> lol
[06:37] <Juzzy`> :P
[06:37] <Juzzy`> !askthebot Why can't I see my extra 10gb on my / partition now that i've resized it?
[06:37] <Juzzy`> ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:37] <Wyrmul> I am trying to get grub to boot from my second hard drive.  I have added http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54180/ to my menu.lst.  If I unplug my linux drive my windows drives boots just fine.  any Ideas?
[06:37] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: sorry to say bud, im stumped. if you resized the appropriate things, then i dont see why it would not be registering.
[06:38] <Juzzy`> hmm
[06:38] <Juzzy`> cheers anyway
[06:38] <Juzzy`> might just see how i go about re-installing ubuntu
[06:38] <Juzzy`> I just wanna play TF2 on ubuntu :P
[06:38] <WGGMk> hehe
[06:38] <Juzzy`> If I can do that, I can pretty much say goodbye to windows ;)
[06:38] <WGGMk> I play GW's on Ubuntu nicely
[06:38] <Juzzy`> yeah
[06:38] <Juzzy`> i've got CS:S running on it without a problem
[06:38] <Juzzy`> wine is win :P
[06:39] <WGGMk> it has come a long way for sure
[06:39] <Th3Count> Hello, I've been searching the forums and can't find the answer to my problem. This problem has occured on 2 computers for me, Once was a C2D6300, 4gb Ram, Geforce 8800 GTS-640mb, X-FI Platinum, mobo: Intel DG965WH. and on my new build same hardware but a C2Q6700 and an Intel DG33TL. installing using 7.10 amd64 alternate cause i don't see one that says specific for intel. installs fine via text mode but when it tries to boot i get
[06:39] <Th3Count> an error saying 'Failed to allocate mem resources' I have pulled all the ram tried w/1 stick at a time and same thing
[06:39] <zezu> can linux mount software raid0 made with windows admin. disk util. panel ?
[06:39] <Juzzy`> Considering I can play CS:S on my laptop at the same fps in unbuntu under win as i can in windows
[06:42]  * Juzzy` downloads ubuntu alternate to begin reinstall
[06:44] <Juzzy`> Wow, quiet in here
[06:44] <Juzzy`> You guys must really like these times
[06:45] <WGGMk> yea ill say..
[06:45] <soneil> it's 6am.  it oughta be quiet
[06:45] <Juzzy`> Its 5:15pm here
[06:45] <Juzzy`> :P
[06:45] <soneil> yeah, I have this real arrogant thing going where I just assume GMT is the "right" timezone :)
[06:45] <Juzzy`> :P
[06:45] <WGGMk> 1:45 AM here
[06:46] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, don't you have to work tomorrow?
[06:46] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: yup.. 2nd shift..
[06:46] <Juzzy`> oh
[06:46] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: not due in for 12 hours
[06:46] <Juzzy`> easy stuff then
[06:46] <Juzzy`> I'm on annual leave :P
[06:46] <robierto> question: i need to improve my keyboarding skills.  does anyone know where i can find the finger placement for each key?  i downloaded a bunch of typing programs but they don't show you how to place your hands and such.  Any help would be appreciated
[06:46] <Juzzy`> so you came into #ubuntu?
[06:47] <z1m> I am in need of help connecting to my wireless network.  must be done command line and with wpa.  anyone feel up to the challenge?
[06:47] <WGGMk> lol
[06:47] <WGGMk> ASDF = pinky, ring, middle, index
[06:47] <scorphus> I'm using gutsy and metacity won't run after I'm logged in, please help.
[06:47] <WGGMk> JKL;= index, middle, ring, pinky
[06:47] <WGGMk> SPACE = thumbs
[06:47] <Juzzy`> robierto, http://www.electronicsshowplace.com/images/isimages/DH64331.jpg
[06:47] <soneil> robierto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_typing   (seriously, they have a good map)
[06:48] <Juzzy`> Just change to dvorak :P
[06:48] <naitse> how do i shut down the Xserver
[06:48] <WGGMk> zlm: is there a reason it must be done with command line?
[06:48] <WGGMk> naitse: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:48] <Juzzy`> /etc/gdm/init.d stop
[06:48] <Juzzy`> DAMNIT I WAS GETTING THERE
[06:48] <WGGMk> lol
[06:48] <naitse> cool thanks !!
[06:48] <Juzzy`> And I got it wrong :(
[06:48] <WGGMk> need sudo though Juzzy`
[06:48] <Juzzy`> true
[06:48] <z1m> wggmk:because I am running the server release and have nothing else
[06:48] <Juzzy`> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:49] <Juzzy`> What kind of server runs wireless?
[06:49] <WGGMk> zlm: your connecting wirelessly with a server??? seems odd
[06:49] <Juzzy`> SNAP :P
[06:49] <z1m> a personal use one
[06:49] <robierto> soneil, very nice
[06:49] <robierto> thanks
[06:49] <WGGMk> zlm: im not sure i can help you via command line..
[06:50] <Juzzy`> I haven't got my wireless working on ubuntu yet, its on the list of todos
[06:50] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line... any ideas whats goin on here
[06:50] <z1m> wggmk would you consider yourself generally good with wireless?  any help would be good because Ive followed tutorials and now dont know what to do
[06:50] <sapperjanko1> any idea on y it comes up with write protection
[06:51] <WGGMk> zlm: with a GUI to use, yes "generally" good.. i would recommend against serving via wireless though
[06:51] <appcine> hello. how do I find a package using apt-get? like, I know that I want to install "psycopg", but it's not called excactly that..
[06:51] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: 7.10 + restricted drivers manager shoudl get your wireless going very easily
[06:51] <clarke8> Hi all, Can somebody answer a couple of questions about STARDICT dictionary?
[06:51] <blackvd> this is off topic but I was just curious if anyone in here knows how to open bash in OSX?
[06:51] <musikgoat> appcine: apt-cache search
[06:51] <appcine> musikgoat: Much obliged
[06:51] <z1m> WGGmk i dont have the option of ethernet where my box is and the sverer is really only going to  be for me to use, if wireless goes down nobody is going to need access anyhow
[06:51] <seon> i have a svn on my server and from my client i can execute a checkout but when i execute a commit i have the message : path_join: Assertion `is_canonical(base, blen)' failed.
[06:51] <robierto> soneil, the map says "From open-source GNU licensed linux software program Ktouch."
[06:51] <soneil> blackvd: /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app
[06:52] <Juzzy`> I have a newish Intel wireless ABGN chipset in my laptop WGGMk ..
[06:52] <appcine> clarke8: Press cmd+space and type in "terminal" in spotlight
[06:52] <blackvd> soneil: thanks
[06:52] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: ahh
[06:52] <scorphus> thanks
[06:52] <robierto> sudo apt-get install ktouch
[06:52] <robierto> oops
[06:52] <robierto> wrong window
[06:52] <appcine> clarke8: or: Applications -> Utilities
[06:52] <clarke8> what for?
[06:52] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: can you pastebin your samba.conf or smb.conf i forget which it is
[06:53] <WGGMk> zlm: couldnt you move the access point?
[06:53] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: pastebin :S
[06:54] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: ?
[06:54] <clarke8>  The question is about group-managing in stardict.I successefuly added the new group, but when I try to drag some dictionaries from the default group to the new one, nothing happens.
[06:54] <z1m> WGGmk no, there ais one machine (not mine) with no wireless hardware and I can't really move my box to it because I am not at my own place and my mother would go crazy on me if I asked her if i could have a computer outside my own personal space (I tend to overflow that kind of stuff often and she doesnt like the mess I leave, much less a permanent "mess")
[06:54] <derek_> hi
[06:54] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: what do you mean with pastebin, im still learning ubuntu here
[06:55] <sapperjanko1> << :( just a n00b
[06:55] <panfist> i have some old computers laying around and I was wondering if anyone had an opinion, which computer would give me better performance, a 2800+ athlon or 3ghz pentium 4
[06:55] <panfist> for playing h264 video mostly
[06:55] <WGGMk> !pastebin | z1m
[06:55] <derek_> when i try to use flash in firefox it wont work and when i install it it still doesnot work
[06:55] <ubotu> z1m: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:56] <WGGMk> oopps
[06:56] <clarke8> What is the best channel to ask a question about Stardict?
[06:56] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: did you see the !pastebin
[06:56] <elninja> For some reason, I can't resize windows by dragging on the bottom edge. Only the corners and top, left, and right edge... Any idea what setting would cause this?
[06:56] <derek_> guys flash wont work in firefox
[06:56] <z1m> wait, what am I supposed to be pasting?  I also cant pastebin because I am using two different machines right now.  I dont think that was directed at me though
[06:56] <derek_> help please
[06:57] <WGGMk> derek_: did you install the flash plugin?
[06:57] <WGGMk> z1m: no it wasnt sorry
[06:57] <WGGMk> !pastebin | sapperjanko1
[06:57] <ubotu> sapperjanko1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <derek_> WGGMk i installed it but it still wont work
[06:58] <Juzzy`> derek_, did you just installit now?
[06:58] <sapperjanko1> ahhh, well there ya go, didnt know about that nice little tool
[06:58] <sapperjanko1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54181/
[06:58] <WGGMk> derek_: did you close firefox and reopen it afterwards?
[06:59] <derek_> Juzzy and WGGMk I installed it and followed all the instructions and restarted firefox but it still wont work
[06:59] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> HELP!  First off, I am not a total newb :D ... so here it is:  I was recently messing with trying to fix my monitor's resolution (long story), and have more-or-less returned to how it was before I started.  Now, however, when I click to start Tremulous ... nothing happens.  As in, no errors, no processes, just nothingness, as if I never clicked on anything ... how to make trem go?
[06:59] <WGGMk> derek_: what instructions?? are you using amd64 or x86 ubuntu?
[06:59] <derek_> x86
[07:00] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: are you trying to write to the directory "My Files"
[07:00] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: yes
[07:00] <derek_> WGGMk i installed the plugin but when i try to view a page it says i need to install the plugin buy when i press it, it says it is already installed
[07:00] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: try changing the line "create mack =" to "create mask ="
[07:01] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: that should be my /var/www folder
[07:01] <WGGMk> derek_: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[07:01] <derek_> WGGMk ill try it
[07:02] <WGGMk> derek_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:02] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: hmmm, didnt see that typo LOL
[07:02] <derek_> ok
[07:02] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: 2nd eye's are often those of gold
[07:02] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: lemme know if it resolves the issue
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> quick question
[07:04] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: On my vista box it comes up saying "You need to have permissions to perform this action"
[07:04] <derek_> WGGMk it said purge was not reconized as a command
[07:04] <WGGMk> Em3raldMcSquizzy: what is Tremulous? have you tried to run it in terminal?
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> How do I restart my apache server from the console? I changed the php.ini a bit.
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> my localshot
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> localhost*
[07:04] <WGGMk> TheBuzzSaw: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:04] <sapperjanko1> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> That's right. Thank you!
[07:05] <WGGMk> derek_: standby
[07:05] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: lol just a n00b but workin the codes out ;)
[07:06] <WGGMk> derek_: purge is most definatly a paramater for the remove command
[07:06] <pawan> hi
[07:06] <pawan> how to install equilizer in audacious
[07:06] <nemilar> suuup
[07:07] <nemilar> audacious has a built-in equalizer
[07:07] <nemilar> it's the same as the winamp one, really
[07:07] <derek_> WGGMk i did it this is what it says
[07:07] <WGGMk> derek_: the enter line should be "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:07] <derek_> Download done.
[07:07] <derek_> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[07:07] <derek_> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[07:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: have you restarted samba since you made the change??
[07:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: if not.. "testparm" then "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[07:08] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: restarted AND stopped and started
[07:08] <UnWorthy> so it's quite common for ubuntu to destroy the hal.dll
[07:08] <UnWorthy> google ubuntu hal.dll
[07:08] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: Ubuntu HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WINDOWS OR HAL.DLL
[07:09] <UnWorthy> what do you mean?
[07:09] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: LIKE THIS WAS EXPLAINED BEFORE..  Welcome!
[07:11] <UnWorthy> the offtopic police?
[07:11] <speeddemon8803> !language
[07:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:11] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: perhaps you should of shrank your Windows partition inside of windows to give space for Ubuntu, hence not effected your windows hardware layout
[07:11] <vinicius> anyone knows how to make VIM scroll lines like gedit, kedit or notepad (by viweing lines, not by file lines)
[07:11] <vinicius> ?????
[07:11] <soneil> Curious, does ubuntu have ntfs-write out of the box yet ?
[07:11] <UnWorthy> I think it's because I put ubuntu on the 2nd partition of the 2nd hard drive
[07:12] <WGGMk> soneil: 7.10 does
[07:12] <UnWorthy> not on my primary hard drive with xp on it
[07:12] <robierto> UnWorthy: is microsoft employee
[07:12] <UnWorthy> but a storage drive
[07:12] <UnWorthy> haha ok mexican
[07:12] <bazhang> robierto: heh
[07:12] <UnWorthy> go learn to type
[07:12] <UnWorthy> lil ho
[07:12] <WGGMk> !language
[07:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:12] <bazhang> UnWorthy: please stop
[07:12] <UnWorthy> ah yi yi me need to learn to type
[07:12] <robierto> UnWorthy: i was just joking around you don't have to be rude
[07:13] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:13] <onats> lol
[07:13] <UnWorthy> you got burned
[07:13] <UnWorthy> now you say sry
[07:13] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:13] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: this is a support channel.. keep it that way
[07:13] <UnWorthy> dude
[07:13] <UnWorthy> Could it be....
[07:13] <UnWorthy> that I
[07:13] <Kheldar^^> /proc/sys/vm/bdflush dont exist on my ubuntu server installation, how to enable the parameter?
[07:13] <robierto> UnWorthy: u are rude
[07:13] <speeddemon8803> You can get removed...you do know this right?
[07:13] <bazhang> !enter | UnWorthy
[07:13] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:14] <jedimasterk> Is it worth upgrading from 7.05 to 7.10, or wait for 8.05
[07:14] <WGGMk> 1 could only pray speeddemon8803
[07:14] <UnWorthy> installed it to the secondary hard drive and not the primary with xp on it?
[07:14] <speeddemon8803> its worth it jedimasterk
[07:14] <speeddemon8803> well worth it
[07:14] <UnWorthy> it's 7.04
[07:14] <soneil> jedimasterk: personally, I'd go from 7.04 to 7.10, if only because upgrading one version to the next is usually cleaner than skipping a version
[07:14] <bazhang> jedimasterk: 7.04 to 7.10 may be worth it for you; if you want long term support then 8.04 will have it
[07:15] <WGGMk> derek_: are you still here??
[07:15] <robierto> UnWorthy: i am only asking about typing here because i am competent enough to have a perfectly functional and stable gutsy without ruining my partitions
[07:15] <UnWorthy> lets hope they make a distro that doesn't distroy hal.dll
[07:15] <UnWorthy> I MADE A FUNNY! LOL
[07:15] <Brinson> 7.10 has compiz built in so its much prettier. Why not upgrade? With ubuntu its really easy.
[07:15] <pawan> how to install equilizer in audacious
[07:15] <derek_> WGGMk Im here
[07:15] <UnWorthy> so you are dual booting with xp robbi?
[07:16] <jedimasterk> Ubuntu shipped me 7.04 cds instead of the 7.10 I asked for.
[07:16]  * Brinson still thinks unworthy should try wubi. :-p Ubuntu Ultimate is just a package of apps you can apt-get, isn't it?
[07:16] <WGGMk> derek_: have you removed flash ??
[07:16] <robierto> UnWorthy: absolutely
[07:16] <UnWorthy> are they both on the master?
[07:16] <UnWorthy> primary drive?
[07:16] <derek_> WGGMk there was a bug but i looked on the forums and found a fix
[07:16] <robierto> UnWorthy: ubuntu is on slave
[07:16] <UnWorthy> I tried that it didn't work
[07:16] <derek_> thanx for the help though
[07:16] <jedimasterk> I heard 7.10 had nvidia driver problems
[07:16] <UnWorthy> it distro-ed my hal.dll
[07:16] <WGGMk> derek_: ahh aight, very welcome
[07:17] <UnWorthy> I must be retarded...
[07:17] <WGGMk> !report
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about report - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <UnWorthy> you know cause ubuntu worked fine...
[07:17] <bazhang> UnWorthy: if you have issues then that is likely on you; there are plenty of tutorials on how install a dual boot and numerous folks do it successfully
[07:17] <robierto> UnWorthy: never had any issues like that so i can't help you
[07:17] <UnWorthy> you guys with dual boots do you use grub for the loader?
[07:17] <tumbleweed05> omg. ubuntu with gnome and compiz rocks
[07:17] <Brinson> Anyone here use Wine-Doors?
[07:17] <robierto> UnWorthy: first time i heard something like that and yes grub
[07:18] <tumbleweed05> just replaced it with a hacked copy of XP. and i'm glad i did.
[07:18] <UnWorthy> doesn't ubuntu come with gnome?
[07:18] <WGGMk> PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
[07:18] <tumbleweed05> unworthy: yup
[07:18] <UnWorthy> so whats the big deal?
[07:18] <derek_> WGGMk just for next time here is the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[07:18] <Brinson> Wine Doors seems to have things like Call of Duty...is it downloading a pirated version for me or what?
[07:18] <UnWorthy> thats like say windows xp with media player is awesome!
[07:18] <sapperjanko> WGGKm: I get these errors coming up doing testparm... Unknown parameter encountered "server sting" "null password" and also "create mack" and with create mack, when it brings up the conf, it says create mask, and i have restarted the service a couple of times now
[07:18] <WGGMk> derek_: thanks mate
[07:18] <bazhang> UnWorthy: which was installed first?
[07:18] <tumbleweed05> lol shut up.
[07:18] <UnWorthy> xp
[07:18] <UnWorthy> lol :P
[07:19] <jedimasterk> Will upgrading to 7.10 mess up my Automatix 2
[07:19] <UnWorthy> gotcha!
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: you are a bit quirky dood
[07:19] <UnWorthy> ?
[07:19] <soldats> !automatix | jedimasterk
[07:19] <ubotu> jedimasterk: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[07:19] <UnWorthy> are you coming on to me?
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: your personality
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: i think i love you
[07:19] <UnWorthy> meet me in #xxxpass later ;)
[07:19] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: standby, im gonna compare my config to yours.. what is your unltimate goal on write permissions?
[07:19] <bazhang> UnWorthy: if you describe your issue with some precision and refrain from the jibes you will get some help
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: ok
[07:19] <UnWorthy> ok
[07:19] <UnWorthy> ready?
[07:19] <foibles> for some reason flash isn't working
[07:19] <UnWorthy> baz?
[07:19] <foibles> i can't watch youtube and such
[07:20] <foibles> is something wrong with the repo firefox flash plugin?
[07:20] <bazhang> foibles have you read the topic?
[07:20] <soldats> !flashissues | foibles
[07:20] <ubotu> foibles: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:20] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: what ya mean unltimate goal on write permissions]
[07:20] <Th3Count> is there a problem with the current distro of Ubuntu and Nvidia 8800 GTS chips?
[07:20] <foibles> bazhang, i had not, thanks
[07:20] <sapperjanko> !n00b
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about n00b - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <bazhang> UnWorthy: the install you have is dual boot correct? what is not booting? ubuntu or windows
[07:20] <tumbleweed05> thanks ubotu. i was wondering that too.
[07:21] <sapperjanko> !bot
[07:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:21] <Brinson> extract the tar file and put libflash.so or whatever in the firefox plugins directory...I think that's all the installer does, isn't it?
[07:21] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: who do you want to be able to write to the directory? hint: its easier to lump everyone in a group instead of to specify individual user's
[07:21] <sapperjanko> im shocked that ubotu dont know what a n00b is
[07:21] <Sevensins> Hello all ...can someon tell me if it is possible to create a list of all actaaull installed packages on a system to make it easy to reinstall it the way i want it configured?
[07:21] <bazhang> dpkg -l
[07:21] <soldats> download tar extract and install via the terminal using the directions on adobes site
[07:21] <Brinson> !newbies
[07:21] <UnWorthy> I installed ubuntu on the 2nd partition of my 2nd hard drive (storage, NTFS) created a swap and fat32 partiton with the feisty fawn live cd...installed pulled it out...install finished..and grub came up loaded ubuntu...I restart to go into XP and hal.dll is gone...so I get my brother in law to help me...we do a fixboot, we try to expand hal.dl_ from the xp disk in recovery console...nothing worked had to format, reinstall and ubuntu didn
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newbies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <soldats> !noob > sapperjanko
[07:22] <Brinson> !newbie
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newbie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <Brinson> !noob
[07:22] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:22] <UnWorthy> t work after that...had to delete it
[07:22] <pawan> hi
[07:22] <Brinson> haha, it knows something about them.
[07:22] <bazhang> Brinson: you can /msg ubotu in private please
[07:22] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: well i only have 2 users set up atm, but i want to have atlease one of the users been only a user to access the /var/www to update the website etc
[07:22] <Sevensins> send me private
[07:23] <Sevensins>  i give you guys some time to think and go for a fag now :)
[07:23] <bazhang> Sevensins: dpkg -l in the terminal
[07:23] <Brinson> sapperjanko: You can do that with groups, but I don't know the details.
[07:23] <Sevensins> oh that was quick
[07:23] <Sevensins> okay
[07:23] <Sevensins> thx
[07:23]  * Rabiddog heads off to IDLE in #edmonton-lug
[07:24] <sapperjanko> soldats: what the hell is the bot goin on bout in the IM box
[07:24] <bazhang> UnWorthy: you installed ubuntu on a ntfs partition?
[07:24] <UnWorthy> bazhang:I went to #windows after eveyone told me to go there...because my problem was not with ubuntu......supposedly...and one of the guys there said "you tried to install ubuntu didn't you" he said he had the same thing happen he had to reinstall too...
[07:24] <Sevensins> so far so good
[07:25] <UnWorthy> do you think it could be I'm not installing it to the primary hard drive...I doubt that could be it...but maybe
[07:25] <UnWorthy> man I need a white russian...
[07:25] <Sevensins> but how do i use the names retrieved now to make it a list of "to install" apps ?
[07:25] <sapperjanko> Brinson: yea thats y i was tryin 2 use it as user... i also do have webmin installed if that helps ya guys out. im still tryin 2 work out how 2 use that also
[07:25] <UnWorthy> •bazhang• ?
[07:25] <adub> how do you use grep to find a certain string of text in a given file
[07:25] <bazhang> UnWorthy: could be an issue; though your explanation is not totally clear--you had an xp install first then installed ubuntu?
[07:25] <odysseas> adub cat /path/to/given/file |grep certain string
[07:26] <Sevensins> find <St> | grep <st.>
[07:26] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54182/
[07:26] <haofeng94> is this ms sever real?
[07:26] <bazhang> sapperjanko: webmin is not supported by ubuntu have you considered ebox?
[07:26] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: that should be the only things you need to specify to write to the directory
[07:26] <haofeng94> When will it be launch
[07:26] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: what were the other things 'testparm' yelled about?
[07:26] <bazhang> haofeng94: not really ontopic here
[07:26] <svall> Hello how can i automatically mount a hard drive at start up
[07:27] <Sevensins> svall youve got to aadd it to fstab where all filesystems are listed
[07:27] <adub> odysseas the file im trying to grep it just goes to the next line
[07:27] <sapperjanko> "server sting" "null password"
[07:27] <pawan> hi
[07:27] <Sevensins> read a wiki about that cos thats a huge topic
[07:27] <svall> ok cheers
[07:27] <Sevensins> in short just add mountpount ..type and uid to fstab
[07:27] <adub> i can just cat filename and the text shows but i want to search the file for only the word priority
[07:28] <WGGMk> svall: 2 ways, you can edit 'fstab' or edit 'rc.local' with a script IE: sudo mount /path/of/drive /mount/path"
[07:28] <UnWorthy> yeah xp first then ubuntu
[07:28] <Brinson> Does this IRC have a particular purpose or just general? I only found it because its the default of the IRC client.
[07:28] <tparcina> DHCP IP address, but static DNS server - how to acheeve this?
[07:28] <odysseas> adub cat filename |grep priority
[07:28] <bazhang> UnWorthy: then why would you create another partition with feisty cd?
[07:28] <bod_> is there an admin about?
[07:28] <WGGMk> tparcina: DNS will always be static
[07:28] <UnWorthy> what do y0u mean?
[07:28] <bazhang> bod_: just us grunts ;]
[07:29] <tparcina> WGGMk: DNS is the one that DHCP server has assing it
[07:29] <WGGMk> tparcina: or are you trying to create a DNS server and you have an IP dynamically?
[07:29] <tparcina> WGGMk: I would like to define my own
[07:29] <UnWorthy> I created a ext3 partition for linux, a swap partition and a fat32 osshare partition
[07:29] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: ill check it out, put what u have in there n go from there
[07:29] <bod_> bazhang, i got banned from !ot, but they said it was only 24hrs,, that was a week ago, im still banned
[07:29] <UnWorthy> oh...
[07:29] <bazhang> UnWorthy: the installer will resize your windows install automatically
[07:29] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: lemme know then
[07:29] <UnWorthy> why would I want it to do that?
[07:30] <tparcina> WGGMk: that it correct. I'm getting IP from DHCP server, but I would like to use DNS which I define
[07:30] <WGGMk> tparcina: lets step back for a second. what are you trying to achieve?
[07:30] <Brinson> You get to pick its new size.
[07:30] <UnWorthy> to automate the process as much as possible?
[07:30] <soldats> bod_, state your clame in #ubuntu-ops if noones there just wait
[07:30] <bazhang> bod_: you might go to #ubuntu-ops
[07:30] <adub> odysseas that as well goes to the next line
[07:30] <bod_> well,.,. i would post this in !ot, but it is ubuntu related,.,. can you check this out and let me no what you think
[07:30] <bod_> http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/Bodsda/
[07:30]  * UnWorthy knows why the dude drinks white russians....
[07:30] <odysseas> adub I dont understand what you're trying to do
[07:30] <bod_> bazhang, soldats, cheers,.will do
[07:30] <tumbleweed05> hey how do i do a screenshot?
[07:30] <UnWorthy> •bazhang• why would I let it do that to the windows partition? to automate the process as much as possible?
[07:30] <sisseck> Hi, anyone know of a opensource alternative to mathcad?
[07:30] <soldats> with the screenshot button
[07:31] <bazhang> UnWorthy: I hate to say it but it seems that you have botched the install yourself--the automatic installer obviates the need and or risk of that--also, why not use gutsy gibbon 7.10?
[07:31] <adub> try to print on my screen only one word and all instances of that word in console on my screen using cat and grep
[07:31] <tumbleweed05> soldats: a little more help lol.
[07:31] <tparcina> WGGMk: I would like to get IP address from DHCP server and I would like to use another DNS server, not the one that DHCP server is telling me to use
[07:31] <adub> the command completes goes to next line without output
[07:31] <UnWorthy> no reason
[07:31] <Brinson> the bg would look cooler in a non-small-laptop resolution
[07:31] <WGGMk> tparcina: for what purpose though?
[07:31] <UnWorthy> just was out when I d/l ubuntu
[07:31] <UnWorthy> when I d/l it, it was the newest version
[07:31] <WGGMk> tparcina: im having trouble understanding WHY you would need to do this
[07:31] <odysseas> adub then the word priority isnt in the file
[07:31] <soldats> tumbleweed05, somewhere in the menu there is an option. i dont use gnome  so i dont rememmber eexactly where
[07:32] <soldats> er button
[07:32] <tparcina> I have tried to change /etc/resolv.conf but then when I restart it changes - it receives DNS information from DHCP
[07:32] <shaark> tumbleweed05: Applications->Accesories->Take Screenshot
[07:32] <tparcina> WGGMk: I'm using VirtualBox, and his DNS server doens't work so I have to define the "real" one
[07:32] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: this is weird, put what u had in pastebin n still the same probs
[07:32] <bazhang> UnWorthy: you have a working xp install now? if so, then get the latest 7.10 and let it resize the install automatically--though you can tweak it a bit--much safer that way
[07:33] <adub> odysseas is it case sensitive on grep cat
[07:33] <odysseas> adub yeah
[07:33] <sapperjanko> i still did a testparm n that creat mack still popped up at me
[07:33] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: stupid has it sounds, but you edit the #'s accordingly right?
[07:33] <Brinson> He's trying Ubuntu Ultimate, right...is that a live or alternate install?
[07:33] <adub> yeah i just found that out
[07:33] <Brinson> alternative is a little harder with dual boot because of the lack of the nice UI
[07:33] <WGGMk> tparcina: what do you mean it doesnt work? DNS is like a phonebook of servers, nothing more
[07:34] <bazhang> UnWorthy: it really is as easy as that--dl, burn iso to disk, restart from disk and it will see you windows install and take over from there.
[07:34] <tparcina> WGGMk: do you know what is VirtualBox?
[07:34] <adub> nice thanks odysseas thanks for the heads up on the command line
[07:34] <WGGMk> tparcina: i havent used it.. but its a virtual machine software if im not mistaken
[07:34] <sapperjanko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54183/
[07:34] <bazhang> tparcina: there is also vmware-server if you are interested
[07:34] <tparcina> WGGMk: yes, that's correct. problem is that VirutalBox DNS server doesn't work. He doesn't respond to DNS requests.
[07:35] <UnWorthy> I want to try ultimate
[07:35] <UnWorthy> but ppl said it's not so good...
[07:35] <tparcina> WGGMk: it's well documented. So I have to define some public DNS server
[07:35] <UnWorthy> is it because it's unsupported?
[07:35] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: thats all i got in there now under MyFiles
[07:35] <WGGMk> tparcina: are you trying to connect externally to the virtual box DNS?
[07:35] <tparcina> bazhang: vmware isn't open source
[07:35] <bazhang> UnWorthy: then download it; though it is just as easy to install that stuff individually once you have ubuntu in place
[07:35] <bazhang> tparcina: it is in the repos though
[07:36] <UnWorthy> download what?
[07:36] <Brinson> Does anyone here use Ares in wine?
[07:36] <UnWorthy> ultimate?
[07:36] <WGGMk> tparcina: you need to provide more information... where is the DNS.. where are you in relation to the DNS.. how are you trying to access it??
[07:36] <bazhang> tparcina: and for what its worth I have had bad luck with vbox; vmware-server just works here ;]
[07:36] <tparcina> WGGMk: I just need to define DNS server on my machine
[07:36] <nemilar> What's the command to re-configure a package?
[07:36] <nemilar> the dpkg command
[07:37] <nemilar> dpkg --re-configure?
[07:37] <vontux> hi, how would you use command line 7zip to join files you split with it?
[07:37] <Brinson> dpkg-reconfigure
[07:37] <nemilar> ty
[07:37] <WGGMk> tparcina: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:37] <UnWorthy> •bazhang• download what? ultimate? I have it already...or are you talking about the software that comes with ultimate?
[07:37] <tparcina> bazhang: don't know that, but I'm preatty sure it's not open source. Please corect me if I'm wrong
[07:37] <UnWorthy> no it's not
[07:37] <bazhang> UnWorthy: you can download the ubuntu cd, the ultimate dvd or whatever flavor you like--though there is no real advantage to the latter afaik
[07:37] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: hate to do this mate, but i think you need to head to #samba
[07:37] <UnWorthy> afiak?
[07:38] <bazhang> tparcina: but it is free ;]
[07:38] <bazhang> as far as I know UnWorthy
[07:38] <tumbleweed05> could an asus EEE pc run ubuntu and compiz?
[07:38] <UnWorthy> ty
[07:38] <soldats> vontux, man 7zip       the commands and the how to should be there
[07:38] <tparcina> WGGMk: I have edit /etc/resolv.conf but when I restart machine, then DHCP deamon deletes what I have entered there and puts informations that he has received from DHCP server
[07:38] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: yes; see #eeepc
[07:38] <tumbleweed05> thanks bazhang.
[07:38] <bazhang> np
[07:39] <tparcina> bazhang: :) free != free :)
[07:39] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: i cant seem to figure out why you cant write to it.. it could be that /var/www needs sudo to write to it
[07:39] <UnWorthy> which version of VMWare is good for home use?
[07:39] <bazhang> tparcina: but the debil must have his due ;]
[07:39] <WGGMk> tparcina: that is how you edit DNS records.. are you getting a different IP every time your restart your machien?
[07:39] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: i did testparm again, found another 2 typos, but still in there its comin up for "creat mack"
[07:39] <UnWorthy> just messing around no real use...
[07:39] <bazhang> UnWorthy: server most likely
[07:40] <UnWorthy> .... :( I was downloading infastructure....
[07:40] <bazhang> UnWorthy: workstation costs money ;[
[07:40] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: are you stopping samba before testparm?
[07:40] <shaark> how can I configure metacity?
[07:40] <UnWorthy> how about infastructure....
[07:40] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: and i just found there there is 2 creat macks in that conf LOL, ill do the change n see how i go
[07:40] <sapperjanko> NO
[07:40] <tparcina> WGGMk: no, I'm getting allways the same. And I guess I'll do what are you also thinking I should do - define static IP address  :)
[07:41] <Neeku> hi
[07:41] <WGGMk> tparcina: the machine that NEEDS the DNS info, is it a virtual machine?
[07:41] <slash_> no
[07:41] <bazhang> UnWorthy: not sure what you mean by infrastructure--you are going to use this as a home server?
[07:41] <UnWorthy> so guys whats the one stop shop for open source goodies for ubuntu?
[07:41] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: i just got testparm coming up with NO, i repeat NO ERRORS
[07:41] <UnWorthy> no thats the name of the release
[07:41] <tparcina> WGGMk: can you please tell me where do I define IP addres?
[07:41] <Slart> UnWorthy: synaptic?
[07:41] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: =)
[07:42] <UnWorthy> VMware v3.5 infastructure
[07:42] <tparcina> WGGMk: yes, that's virtual machine
[07:42] <soneil> vmware infrastructure is a $2000+ edition of vmware.  I don't think it's really aimed at the home market somehow ..
[07:42] <bazhang> UnWorthy: the software repositories, where almost all of the software we use is kept
[07:42] <WGGMk> tparcina: how is your internet configured? Bridged or NAT?
[07:42] <Neeku> I'm laying music with "audacious" and I've got last.fm; but it doesn't scrobble the songs I play; what should I do?
[07:42] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: lol but still probs with the write error.. gunna go see if anyone around in the samba
[07:42] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:42] <tparcina> WGGMk: forget it. I'll define static IP address
[07:42] <UnWorthy> $2000 program...
[07:42] <WGGMk> tparcina: whatever
[07:42] <Smeg> can anyone recommend something like networkmanager for windows?
[07:43] <mythtv> is there an install for a realplayer for ubuntu ?
[07:43] <WGGMk> tparcina: im 90% sure its not going to work
[07:43] <tparcina> WGGMk: can you please tell me where I define it? /etc/ ?
[07:43] <UnWorthy> that would be the most expensive prog I'll ever not use
[07:43] <onats> anyone here who has a laptop with working hibernate/suspend?
[07:43] <pawan_> hi
[07:43] <sapperjanko> UnWorthy: ya got ripped off, ubuntu is FREE
[07:43] <mythtv> something to play "rm " files
[07:43] <WGGMk> tparcina: not a directory.. use ifconfig
[07:43] <UnWorthy> I mean never use*
[07:43] <pawan_> how to install rpm file
[07:43] <Neeku> I'm playing music with "audacious" and I've got last.fm; but it doesn't scrobble the songs I play; what should I do?
[07:43] <tparcina> WGGMk: yes, but that's for one time only. I'll like to change conf file
[07:44] <WGGMk> tparcina: no its not a "1 time only"
[07:44] <WGGMk> tparcina: bring the device down.. and assign a static IP for it.. then bring the device up
[07:44] <Slart> mythtv: I don't know if there is anything in the repos.. but you can get realplayer from their site.. it's not as bad as the windows-version
[07:44] <WGGMk> tparcina: then add the default gw
[07:44] <sapperjanko> Smeg: are you in a clan in australia
[07:45] <bazhang> pawan_: what file?
[07:45] <tparcina> WGGMk: ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up ?
[07:45] <pawan_> xmms equilizer rpm file
[07:45] <Neeku> I'm laying music with "audacious" and I've got last.fm; but it doesn't scrobble the songs I play; what should I do?
[07:45] <WGGMk> tparcina: im sorry i misread you standby
[07:45] <Slart> !alien | pawan_
[07:45] <ubotu> pawan_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:45] <pawan_> then
[07:46] <tparcina> WGGMk: route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[07:46] <WGGMk> tparcina: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:46] <tparcina> WGGMk: ok, thank you :)
[07:46] <bazhang> pawan_: you would be better off using a more modern media player then risking installing an rpm
[07:46] <pawan_> which one
[07:46] <WGGMk> tparcina: as for the gateway and ip.. i cant help you without knowing the network setup
[07:46] <WGGMk> tparcina: apologize about instructing your to use ifconfig
[07:46] <portablejim> is there a way of making an app (and windows) stay on a particular Desktop?
[07:46] <Smeg> sappperjanko: yes
[07:47] <bazhang> rhythmbox, amarok are two names that come to mind pawan_
[07:47] <Aloha> portablejim, make it sticky
[07:47] <tparcina> WGGMk: everything's fine. I'll solve it now :)
[07:47] <tparcina> WGGMk: thank you!
[07:47] <portablejim> how about when it oped it opens to that desktop?
[07:47] <Aloha> portablejim, right click on title and select stick
[07:47] <WGGMk> tparcina: welcome
[07:47] <sapperjanko> Smeg: wouldnt happen 2 be BoTM now
[07:48] <Aloha> portablejim, not sure
[07:48] <tumbleweed05> ok in the cube i put in the gears but want to change the colors of them. how do i do that?
[07:48] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion for that tumbleweed05
[07:48] <tumbleweed05> lol k.
[07:48] <Aloha> portablejim, its probably in window manager settings. i use xfce so i can't really help you with that
[07:48] <mythtv> how do i install a .bin file ?
[07:48] <power788> Why does  this:     for i in `ls *`; do echo "$i"; done;   on the command line not print out each filename properly?
[07:48] <portablejim> Aloha: there is no stick when I right click.
[07:49] <Aloha> portablejim, is there a button on the titlebar that brings down a menu?
[07:49] <shaark> mythtv: ./filename.bin
[07:49] <pawan_> amarok no demux plugin error
[07:49] <bazhang> right click title bar portablejim
[07:49] <Slart> power788: try "for i in $(ls *); do echo $i; done" instead
[07:49] <_ruben> power788: whats 'not properly' in this case?
[07:49] <Aloha> bazhang, he says that doesn't work
[07:50] <power788> _ruben: like it breaks each filename up by the spaces
[07:50] <bazhang> Aloha: that is odd...
[07:50] <_ruben> power788: ow wait .. didnt read properly .. why not use for i in * ; do .....
[07:50] <soneil> power788: are there spaces in any of the filenames?   "for I in *" will probably get you further
[07:50] <tumbleweed05> is there a decent media player out there for ubuntu?
[07:50] <Aloha> bazhang, yeah
[07:50] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: too many ;]
[07:50] <Aloha> tumbleweed05, itunes on wine ;)
[07:51] <UnWorthy> crack smoker
[07:51] <mythtv> says it needs libstdc++.so.5
[07:51] <tumbleweed05> i don't feel like messing with wine.
[07:51] <UnWorthy> iTunes?!
[07:51] <bazhang> not really nice UnWorthy
[07:51] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:51] <UnWorthy> oh sorry
[07:51] <portablejim> not there. There is minimise, maximise, Move, resize, Always on top, Always on visible workspace, Move to workspace right, move to another workspace and Close
[07:51] <UnWorthy> are his feelings sensitive?
[07:51] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: you want movie or music or both in one?
[07:52] <UnWorthy> do they have something like winAMP for Ubun?
[07:52] <power788> soneil: yes there are, but once I do for I in *; how do I use each filename, $i?
[07:52] <tumbleweed05> prefferably both in one.
[07:52] <True_Friend> Hi folks I just wanted to know where the Icons in KDE are located e.g. K Menue Icon (I want to replece the default one but couldn't find the path whrere it is located)
[07:53] <soneil> power788: yes, exactly the same $I.   problem with "for I in ls ..." is that "a file with spaces in it" appears as 6 different matches.   for I in * works as expected
[07:53] <bazhang> this is the gnome channel True_Friend ;]
[07:53] <UnWorthy> hey do they have something like winAMP for Ubun?
[07:53] <dookdook> could someone point me to some resources for webcam capture and programming.  i.e. i would like to create a program to capture (and eventually display) output from the webcam
[07:53] <bazhang> #kubuntu may help though True_Friend
[07:53] <cvd> Audacious, xmms
[07:53] <Aloha> UnWorthy, XMMS
[07:53] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: xxms
[07:53] <WGGMk> xmms lol
[07:53] <UnWorthy> ty
[07:54] <bazhang> xmms is waaay old though
[07:54] <Aloha> WGGMk, almost ;)
[07:54] <WGGMk> Aloha: ill get it next time haha
[07:54] <UnWorthy> well I like to have a music player...and a movie player...
[07:54] <freyyr> UnWorthy: VLC
[07:54] <cvd> vlc
[07:54] <Aloha> UnWorthy, VLC or mplayer are good choices
[07:54] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:54] <bazhang> heh
[07:54] <pawan_> hi
[07:54] <woodsoul> moc
[07:54] <WGGMk> VLC is a very good choice
[07:54] <UnWorthy> what for music?
[07:54] <cvd> vlc
[07:54] <freyyr> amarok
[07:54] <woodsoul> moc
[07:55] <woodsoul> lol
[07:55] <bazhang> amarok ;]
[07:55] <freyyr> amarok for music all the way
[07:55] <UnWorthy> thats for music?
[07:55] <bod_> i second amarok
[07:55] <UnWorthy> I thought that was video?
[07:55] <WGGMk> Banshee is my personal fav
[07:55] <bazhang> woodsoul: support question?
[07:55]  * Aloha has never used amarok. my sound card doesn't even work heh
[07:55] <Aloha> stupid ISA bus ;)
[07:55] <woodsoul> moc - console music player :]
[07:55]  * bod_ thinks Aloha needs a new sound card
[07:55] <bazhang> aha
[07:55] <UnWorthy> woo....man this drink is like all vodka...
[07:56] <Aloha> bod_, i'm open to donations ;)
[07:56] <UnWorthy> supposedly melatonin and alcohol don't mix....
[07:56] <UnWorthy> would anyone know?
[07:56] <Aloha> UnWorthy, #AA?
[07:56] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: try and keep it PG-13 bud
[07:56] <bazhang> UnWorthy: instructive but #offtopic
[07:56] <bod_> Aloha, ive got a 20 year old sound card you can have,.,. but its a bit primitive
[07:56] <UnWorthy> instrutive?
[07:56] <Aloha> bod_, does it work with ubuntu?
[07:56] <UnWorthy> instructive*
[07:56] <UnWorthy> LOL
[07:56] <UnWorthy> dude
[07:56] <bod_> Aloha, errm,.,. it struggles with winbugs 98
[07:57] <UnWorthy> melatonin is the chemical your brain makes to tell you your tired
[07:57] <Aloha> bod_, i'm taking that as a no? ;)
[07:57] <tumbleweed05> says amarok is designed for kde.
[07:57] <tumbleweed05> how about gnome?
[07:57] <freyyr> it runs fine on gnome
[07:57] <UnWorthy> and vokda is made from potatoes...how bad can THAT be??
[07:57] <UnWorthy> :P
[07:57] <bazhang> UnWorthy: why not get some sleep and come back then--this is a support channel
[07:57] <sapperjanko> GEEEE, heaps of ppl on the samba channel, but no1 talking
[07:57] <cvd> hey, usb wireless is working in ubuntu?
[07:57] <Aloha> sapperjanko, thats IRC for you ;)
[07:58] <UnWorthy> I need some support!
[07:58] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: your talking in a public chat about using alcohol and pills.. this is totally unrelated to any SUPPORT topics.. and you should keep this questions to private chats and not here
[07:58] <UnWorthy> lol.
[07:58] <tumbleweed05> lol.
[07:58] <bod_> Aloha, i havent actually tried it with Ubuntu, but i doubt it,.,. it workes fine for windows 3.0
[07:58] <sapperjanko> Aloha: yea when ya need help on a package, no1 is around to help out, they all RUN
[07:58] <sizzle> hahah that sucks
[07:58] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:58] <Aloha> sapperjanko, its all fun and games until someone actually needs assistance ;)
[07:58] <bod_> !lol | UnWorthy
[07:58] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[07:58] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:59] <UnWorthy> sry I put lol right after that msg....
[07:59] <sizzle> I would help but I just started with ubuntu today vista sucks
[07:59] <Aloha> bod_, you can ship it if you want shipping might be a tad expensive though ;)
[07:59] <soneil> bod_: most cards that age are sb16-compatible, and appear to work with anything that has an isa slot.  they rock.
[07:59] <sapperjanko> OMG really
[07:59] <cvd> you dont have to use vista, use xp
[07:59] <bod_> UnWorthy, no worries,.,.;)
[07:59] <bluefoxx> hi, i have this old thinkpad im trying to boot  from cd on so i can use ubuntu on it, after having done some rather drastic repairs[soldered some stuff on its motherboard] but it will only boot from floppy. also it tells me "master IDE drive channel fail" and "configurement failure". what should i do, i heard theres a floppy i can make to boot from CD on older machines...
[07:59] <Aloha> sizzle, yes it does. Vista did wonders for the apple and linux marketshare
[07:59] <sapperjanko> hmmm we can go haha, ubotu didnt say we couldnt HAHA on there own
[07:59] <sizzle> right
[07:59] <UnWorthy> I think this shouldn't be sooooo PG-13 at 3am eastern...am I wrong?
[08:00] <bod_> Aloha,its probably not worth the shipping cost
[08:00] <bazhang> !ot | UnWorthy
[08:00] <ubotu> UnWorthy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:00] <soneil> UnWorthy: It's Breakfast TV time here.  the internet isn't on EST.
[08:00] <bod_> soneil, ok,.,. but this is one of the first public sound cards ever released
[08:00] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: all walks of life from different parts of the world are all not residing in the 3 AM Eastern time zone
[08:00] <Aloha> bod_, probably not ;)
[08:00] <sizzle> I am about to start a hacking class in school so we have to know a little about linux
[08:00] <cvd> i want to be a op
[08:00] <bluefoxx> UnWorthy, you know this is the internet, its a different time all over for everyone...
[08:00] <UnWorthy> I need the alcohol cause my wisdom teeth are coming in and I need the melatonin to help me sleep
[08:00] <UnWorthy> wheres the crim
[08:00] <UnWorthy> e
[08:00] <UnWorthy> it's quite harmless
[08:00] <ldd> ff
[08:00] <bazhang> !install | bluefoxx
[08:00] <UnWorthy> but I'msorry....
[08:00] <ubotu> bluefoxx: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:01] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <sapperjanko> !e | UnWorthy
[08:01] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[08:01] <unagi_> does anyone here run kde
[08:01] <soneil> bod_: fair enough.  after trying to get some soundblaster audigy monstrosity working, I just miss the old ISA sb16's is all :)
[08:01] <bazhang> sapperjanko: I think you want !b ;]
[08:01] <UnWorthy> oh hey....about my hardware working with ubuntu?
[08:01] <_ruben> unagi_: the ppl in #kubuntu most likely do
[08:01] <unagi_> yea
[08:01] <unagi_> and they arent answering
[08:01] <unagi_> so i thought id try here
[08:01] <unagi_> thanks
[08:02] <UnWorthy> will my soundblaster audigy 2 ZS work?
[08:02] <bluefoxx> can i get a link to the floppy for booting from cd?
[08:02] <UnWorthy> I've heard about the time it takes to get wireless cards working..
[08:02] <bod_> soneil, ;)
[08:02] <UnWorthy> will my soundblaster audigy 2 ZS workon ubuntu?
[08:02] <cvd> googleit
[08:02] <bod_> likely
[08:02] <Aloha> UnWorthy, wireless works pretty well. my linksys card works good
[08:02] <bazhang> !floppy
[08:02] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:02] <sapperjanko> UnWorthy, its best just 2 have ya router next 2 ya box
[08:02] <UnWorthy> cool ahola thats what I have
[08:03] <bazhang> hmm
[08:03] <UnWorthy> the 801g?
[08:03] <bluefoxx> UnWorthy, probally, most things work without any or much trouble, drives seem to just be able to be pluged in
[08:03] <sapperjanko> !sex
[08:03] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[08:03] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: you mean 802.11g
[08:03] <UnWorthy> and ATi video cards?
[08:03] <UnWorthy> yes
[08:03] <UnWorthy> ty know it all :P
[08:03] <bod_> !enter | UnWorthy
[08:03] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:04] <bluefoxx> UnWorthy, ati is fuzzy in linux
[08:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation bluefoxx
[08:04] <UnWorthy> I'm taking a+ i SHOULD know that
[08:04] <bluefoxx> bazhang, ty
[08:04] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: im not a know it all.. its just information take it as you will
[08:04] <Aloha> bluefoxx, whats best video card for ubuntu? Nvidia?
[08:04] <shaark> UnWorthy: some issues with ati drivers and hibernate
[08:04] <UnWorthy> what part of :P didn't you understand?
[08:04] <bluefoxx> Aloha, pretty much
[08:04] <UnWorthy> who hibernates....thats for bears
[08:04] <cvd> nvidia
[08:05] <soneil> UnWorthy: and laptops
[08:05] <shaark> UnWorthy: laptops
[08:05] <UnWorthy> true dat
[08:05] <UnWorthy> I'm sad my geforce 6600gt burned out...
[08:05] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: sorry im not familiar with implied expressions via text
[08:05] <Aloha> well technically desktops hibernate too, depending on power settings
[08:05] <sapperjanko> !hibernate | UnWorthy
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <bluefoxx> bazhang, will that work in an text based browser?firefox kills my uptime for some reason[as soon as i exit it my system crashes]
[08:05] <UnWorthy> lol kk GG
[08:06] <Carbonflux> there is also a issue with Audigy 2 cards and VLC which no one wants to admit too, that card works fine with other players but with VLC you get cracking a poping etc
[08:06] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: im acctually just a clever AI BoT for this chat room
[08:06] <UnWorthy> .....thats no es bueno
[08:06] <bod_> UnWorthy, please, this is not AIM
[08:06] <bazhang> bluefoxx: that is something I am not sure about--does this computer have an ethernet port?
[08:06] <pablocpg> hello, i have a trouble, i can't acces to firefox, i remove and install again and it says :could not initialize the browser's security component. The most likely cause is problems with files in your browser's profile directory
[08:06] <sapperjanko> !ati | UnWorthy
[08:06] <ubotu> UnWorthy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:06] <sizzle> does ubuntu have a program like cain and abel
[08:06] <mythtv> can i get the missing libstdc++.so.5 some how ?
[08:06] <pablocpg> i don't know how to solve it some body can helpme please
[08:06] <UnWorthy> why is this not aim?
[08:07] <UnWorthy> what did I do?
[08:07] <bod_> pablocpg, mark firefox for complete  removal in synaptic, then apply,. then install again
[08:07] <bluefoxx> bazhang, the one im trying to boot from?not built in, but i have a pcmcia ethernet adaptor on it
[08:07] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: LOL yea, u can talk back tho... ubotu cant
[08:07] <mythtv> is there a command like yum provides ?
[08:07] <UnWorthy> I said "no es bueno?"
[08:07] <soneil> pablocpg: uninstalling & re-instaling won't remove your user profile.  you might want to look for that (I think it's in ~/.firefox/ or ~/.mozilla/) and try moving that out the way
[08:07] <pablocpg> bod_, i did that but is the same problem
[08:07] <bod_> UnWorthy, just try and keep the lol,kk,GG, to a minimum
[08:07] <WGGMk> mythtv: google libstdc++.so.5 pacakages.. and look for and ubuntu page.. alternativly you can use getlib.. its on the forums somewhere.. sorry i dont have the link
[08:07] <bazhang> bluefoxx: the minimal install might do for you; see !minimal
[08:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: thats just my Artifical Inteligence programming hahaha
[08:08] <pablocpg> soneil, i should remove that?
[08:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: equiped with typo's and misinformation on occasion
[08:08] <UnWorthy> I find the joining and leaving every 2 secs more annoying than a "lol kk"....but thats just me....
[08:08] <pawan> hi
[08:08] <soneil> pablocpg: I'd move it somewhere else.  if it doesn't fix the problem, you can just move it back again.  nothing lost
[08:08] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: AHHH smart bot, LOL thats y u couldnt help me all the way, bc u was at the end of ya program for samba :P
[08:08] <UnWorthy> [3:08am] mbamford<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined. «1117 people»
[08:08] <bazhang> UnWorthy: take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
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[08:09] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: yea, i need upgrades.. unfortunatlly im community maintaned pacakge
[08:09] <bod_> pablocpg, type    sudo apt-get check    to make sure your dependencies arent broken
[08:09] <UnWorthy> right
[08:09] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: which isnt really up-to-date atm
[08:09] <bluefoxx> bazhang, im not currently trying to install, as all the laptop hardisks i own at the moment are dead[clicked out] and i just want to boot it to see if my repairs worked, the cmos batt inside was snapped off and i had to re-solder it back on, it boots but wont boot cd
[08:09] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: bit like them IBM and Apple ads u see on TV huh
[08:10] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: lol
[08:10] <bazhang> bluefoxx: wow that sounds serious--not sure how you can go about that not having had a floppy drive for nearly a decade ;[
[08:10] <sapperjanko> UnWorthy: if i remember, u can turn on/off the SYSTEM messages, and u wont see ppl coming n going then
[08:10] <pablocpg> soneil, the result is :
[08:10] <pablocpg> Reading package lists... Done
[08:10] <pablocpg> Building dependency tree
[08:10] <pablocpg> Reading state information... Done
[08:10] <sapperjanko> !lol | WGGMk
[08:10] <ubotu> WGGMk: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:11] <bluefoxx> bazhang, i know i heard somewear about a floppy disk that will switch the boot to the cdrom drive for booting CDs on older systems
[08:11] <bod_> pablocpg, ok thats fine
[08:11] <howtoo> what's eth1:avah NIC for?
[08:11] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: out of the 10-15 screen names that appear on my chat box.. you are there roughly 5 times..w hich would mean you are chatting 50% of the time i receive messages.. which is more annoying then hearing people leave and enter
[08:11] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: sorry i just had 2 rub that in there for ya
[08:11] <pablocpg> bod_, so what should i do to fix it?
[08:11] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: hehe
[08:11] <tokok> WGGMk: he left
[08:11] <bod_> pablocpg, dunno,.,. im thinkin
[08:11] <WGGMk> tokok: but for how long
[08:11] <bazhang> indeed
[08:11] <soneil> bluefoxx: is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto   what you're looking for ?  ("I can not boot from my CD-ROM drive but I can read from it")
[08:12] <sapperjanko> OH so we all gunna see some quite time now he has gone
[08:12] <pablocpg> soneil how can i go to ~/.firefox?
[08:12] <WGGMk> pablocpg: "cd ~/.firefox
[08:12] <odysseas> pablocpg cd ~/.firefox
[08:13] <bluefoxx> soneil, mayhaps... i shal check it out
[08:13] <cvd> home then ctrl+h
[08:13] <bod_> pablocpg, are you installing normal firefox 2.0.0 or 3.0.0?
[08:13] <pablocpg> wggmk, i did that, but the folder doesn't exists?
[08:14] <bluefoxx> soneil, errg..."404 not found" when i click the d/l -. -;
[08:14] <pablocpg> bod_, the firefox that is in the add soft from ubuntu
[08:14] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: with my samba, when i go into Webmin and have a look at that server it has the folder there and comes up like this.....MyFiles 	/var/www 	Read/write to travis,mark,group mark,group travis
[08:14] <sapperjanko> Read only to all other known users
[08:14] <Casey> Anyone know a way to disable my CD eject button?
[08:14] <bod_> pablocpg, yer,. but both versions are in my synaptic,.,. use synaptic, and make sure your trying to use 2.0.0
[08:15] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: can you SSH into your server?
[08:15] <bluefoxx> Casey, short of physically taking it out with a de-soldering kit of some sort, i dont know
[08:15] <Casey> :/
[08:15] <pablocpg> bod_, is the <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:15] <sapperjanko> thats the same as telnet hey
[08:15] <cpk1> is there a more comprehensive wireless card list out there other than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wireless+cards&titlesearch=Titles
[08:15] <bod_> WGGMk, can you check the firefox folder,.,. its definately not in ~/.firefox
[08:16] <cpk1> buying a wireless for my server/router and want one guarenteed to work
[08:16] <sapperjanko> !SSH
[08:16] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:16] <bod_> pablocpg, ok, yer thats the right one
[08:16] <WGGMk> bod_: try "locate firefox"
[08:16] <Ububegin> Hei guys, i have installed apache2.2 from the synaptic manager... But I want the apache2.0 version instead.... how do i go about that
[08:17] <WGGMk> bod_: nice catch.. should be ~/.mozilla/firefox
[08:17] <bod_> WGGMk, thougt so,.,. dont locate it unless you want alot of reading,.,.theres firefox components all over my disk
[08:17] <sapperjanko> ahh im gunna have an hour break all, gunna go throw me T-Bone on the bbq
[08:18] <WGGMk> bod_: hehe.. sorry about the misinformation
[08:18] <bod_> anyone know why i just get a black screen after i press install,.,. im trying ubuntu 7.10 on an IBM thinkpad
[08:18] <soneil> my bad.   my stab at ~/.firefox was an educated guess because I don't have any GUI linux boxes anymore :/
[08:18] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: do you have SSH setup on your server or no?
[08:18] <Jakke77_> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/
[08:18] <WGGMk> bod_: your trying to use the livecd?
[08:19] <bod_> WGGMk, no worries,. i remember looking for it once before,. so i tried ur cd ~/.firefox and didnt get anywhere,. and because its installed by default it has to be in the same place on his machine
[08:19] <bazhang> bod_: which thinkpad? have you seen thinkwiki?
[08:19] <bod_> WGGMk, yer
[08:19] <bod_> bazhang, its a black one,. no,. can you gimme a link?
[08:19] <WGGMk> bod_: do you get to the desktop or just the boot splash with options?
[08:19] <gluonman> Can one record webcam sessions in kopete?
[08:19] <bazhang> bod_: ha a black one--model number?
[08:19] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: well i must have it all set up if i just downloaded putty and was about 2 connect :P
[08:20] <bod_> WGGMk, boot splash then i selected the top option (install) now 10 mins later i have a black screen
[08:20] <bluefoxx> soneil, so the link [https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto ] is what im looking for but this comp im on allready runs ubuntu, are there linux unstructions? i dont own windows XD
[08:20] <bod_> bazhang, i dunno,. where is the model no. located,.,. im not laptop savy im afraid
[08:20] <WGGMk> bod_: do you know how to give additional booting options? i believe its F6
[08:20] <bod_> WGGMk, yer
[08:20] <WGGMk> bod_: add these lines "noapic irqpool noirqdebug"
[08:20] <bazhang> bod_: should be near the bottom of the screen
[08:20] <soneil> bluefoxx: dd if=theimage of=/dev/yourfloppy  (I don't know what devices floppies are, and you really, really want to doublecheck it before you splat data across it)
[08:20] <WGGMk> bod_: then hit enter and try that
[08:21] <bod_> bazhang,  T22
[08:21] <bod_> WGGMk, hang on gotta restart it
[08:21] <soneil> bluefoxx: dd replacing their rawrite instruction
[08:21] <bluefoxx> soneil, ok, tyvm X3
[08:21] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: if you can ssh into your server with 1 of the user accounts your trying to write to the /var/www directory with.. then cd /var/www and try "mkdir test"
[08:22] <bod_> WGGMk,  by add these lines,. do you mean,.,. copy exactly what you wrote?
[08:22] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: if it tells you that you dont have permission then samba wont let you write there either because it still defaults to the User account permission ultimatly
[08:22] <sapperjanko> well i have apache installed, and i can connect 2 the test webpage they have
[08:22] <soneil> bluefoxx: I can't stress the doublecheck bit enough.  I've written a 1.44Mb image over the front of a harddrive before.  it made me cry.
[08:22] <sapperjanko> as there is already a folder in there that i can see
[08:22] <DrDerek> anyone recommendations for web-server security testing?
[08:23] <WGGMk> bod_: yes/no.. if your on the top option.. Start/Install.. press F6 and you will see some lines already written.. just add what I wrote to the end of it and hit enter.. ("noapic irqpoll noirqdebug")
[08:23] <bluefoxx> soneil, ouch, it wasnt your main hdd was it?
[08:23] <soneil> bluefoxx: one and only
[08:23] <bazhang> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T22 bod_
[08:23] <sapperjanko> WGGMk yea ya not wrong, cant write
[08:23] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: no no.. can you login remotely with command line.. IE: ssh <username>@<ipaddress> (from command line or putty)
[08:24] <bod_> WGGMk, bazhang, cheers guys,.,. i gotta go to school now,.,. but il be back in about 6 hours r so,.,.lol,.,. cya
[08:24] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: try changing your web directory to a folder that is WORLD writeable
[08:24] <WGGMk> bod_: did it work?
[08:24] <WGGMk> bod_: you cant keep me in suspence
[08:24] <bluefoxx> soneil, eek, that had to hurt[i think i would cry too, given 60 gigs of video and 20 of games, 7 of music], BTW, how do i find the device path for my floppy?
[08:25] <bod_> WGGMk, dunno yet,. bazhang, whats a S3 savage chip?
[08:25] <kaiz> hi people I have a problem for running ubuntu 7.10 live or ubuntu 7.10 server. Actually I tried to install the last one but after chooseing safe vga it gives me "[34.294861] PCI cannot allocate recource region 0 of device 0000:00:09.0" and then it starts loading but hangs. I think that is some hardware support problem, but anyway I can't get out of that situation. Any suggestions?
[08:25] <bazhang> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_ThinkPad_T21 this is what you really want bod_
[08:25] <bod_> bazhang, ty once more,.,. whats a S3 savage chip,.,.do i have one?
[08:25] <bazhang> bod_: need the alternate cd and follow instructions on that second link
[08:25] <WGGMk> bod_: best to listen to bazhang, using extra boot options can get messy
[08:26] <bazhang> must be bod_
[08:26] <bod_> bazhang, ok,.,. il pull that down,. while im at school,.,. ty
[08:26] <soneil> bluefoxx: I'm pretty sure it's /dev/fd* ... my favourite is to put a floppy in, then file -s /dev/thatdevice and see if the floppy starts making fun noises.  it's harmless if it's wrong.
[08:26] <bluefoxx> soneil, ok, that sounds good
[08:26] <bod_> WGGMk, its,.k ,. i kinda understand what those extra thingies do
[08:26] <sapperjanko> back later all, gunna go have tea
[08:26] <WGGMk> bod_: try bazhang's method first though
[08:26] <bazhang> WGGMk: that page is full of boot options ;] you are in the right here
[08:27] <WGGMk> bazhang: oh yea? go me then lol
[08:27] <tumbleweed05> ok. need some help with rhythmbox.
[08:27] <bluefoxx> soneil, ok, got it, its /dev/fd0
[08:27] <tumbleweed05> shows my itunes shared library on my mac but doesn't bring up any of the music.
[08:27] <soneil> bluefoxx: I impress myself.  I haven't had a floppy drive since 1998 :)
[08:27] <bazhang> such as kopt=root/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off apm=on WGGMk ;]
[08:27] <bluefoxx> soneil, [strangly my floppy disk drive is about 10 years old and it still works great, dead silent too]
[08:28] <bod_> WGGMk,  too late,.,. i started yours a few mins ago,.,. but i think its hung
[08:28] <pablocpg> exit
[08:28] <tumbleweed05> anyone?
[08:28] <soneil> bluefoxx: it was never the drives that irked me.  it was finding doghair inside any disk that held valuable data
[08:28] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: you should know by now to give more info ;]
[08:29] <amol1> hi to all ,i have run this command ##udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sda | grep DRIVER   it showing two different drivers are used by disk i.e. "sd" "scsi"..why two different driver it is showing for same device?
[08:29] <ivan_> can i ask java lib questions in this channel?
[08:29] <Neeku> in windows we had "ctrl+alt+delete", what keys do this in ubuntu?
[08:29] <bazhang> you can ask... ;]
[08:29] <soneil> these little usb sticks have changed my life.  they'll survive being digested by pets.
[08:29] <ivan_> Neeku: ctrl+backspace i think
[08:29] <odysseas> Neeku top
[08:29] <Neeku> ivan_: no
[08:30] <amol1> Neeku:same but you have to enable it in inittab file
[08:30] <ivan_> Neeku: that will reset the window manager
[08:30] <bazhang> to restart X?
[08:30] <cvd> ctrl+alt+backspace resset
[08:30] <jekil>  i need a list of all ubuntu default usernames that be setted in /etc/passwd, there is one?
[08:30] <kaiz> hardware support anyone?
[08:30] <Neeku> I want to see the list of task being run at the time and quite any of them I want
[08:30] <bazhang> ctrl alt bkspc
[08:30] <bluefoxx> soneil, lol, i have cats but that was living with my parents, i moved out last year and live with my grandfather now, no pets here[no fuzzy kitties but there i had no awesome computer to learn from and give me a career, lol], anyways, thanks for the help, ill give my new disk a try and let you know if it worked
[08:30] <bod_> bazhang,  im lost,.,. can you give me a link to the 7.10 ubuntu alternate download
[08:30] <ivan_> cvd: yea thats it didn't want to try =)
[08:30] <bazhang> top Neeku
[08:31] <Neeku> bazhang: top?
[08:31] <Neeku> bazhang: what do you mean?
[08:31] <WGGMk> Neeku: right click on your tasbar and go to "add to panel" then select system monitor
[08:31] <bazhang> or htop neeku but you have to install it--run top from the terminal and ye shall see ;]
[08:31] <WGGMk> Neeku: it will add a system tray icon similar to Windows Task Manager
[08:32] <ivan_> Neeku: do u want to see proc. running ?
[08:32] <bazhang> !alternate | bod_ you should know this by now ;]
[08:32] <ubotu> bod_ you should know this by now ;]: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[08:32] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download bod_
[08:33] <bod_> bazhang, i no what it is,. i didnt no where to get it,.,. the ubuntu site isnt very searchable,.,. cheers,. cya later
[08:33] <bazhang> bye
[08:33] <Jakke77_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[08:33] <Neeku> WGGMk: ahhaa! thanks a lot
[08:33] <WGGMk> bod_: on ubuntu.com when you are about to download the CD.. there is check box for "Download Alternative CD"
[08:33] <WGGMk> Neeku: welcome
[08:34] <WGGMk> nvm
[08:34] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: you still there??
[08:34] <cjones__> where is the sudoers fiel ?
[08:35] <cjones__> where is the sudoers fiel ?
[08:35] <cjones__> oops sorry
[08:35] <cjones__> file
[08:35] <soneil> cjones__: /etc/sudoers   but I recommend using visudo.  it'll try it's best to stop you shooting yourself in the foot.
[08:36] <WGGMk> aggree
[08:36] <cjones__> soneil
[08:36] <WGGMk> 'd
[08:36] <soneil> cjones__: (messing up sudo can leave you in a very sticky situation)
[08:36] <cjones__> soneil i have aroot account and dont want sudo enabeled for other accounts
[08:36] <Neeku> WGGMk: another problem! I can't find the process that doesn't let me eject my dvd
[08:36] <WGGMk> cjones__: keep in mind the root account is disabled in Ubuntu out of the box
[08:37] <Neeku> how can I find it out?
[08:37] <WGGMk> neeku: there's a process STOPPING you from ejecting your CD? this sounds unlikly
[08:37] <cvd> PR here?
[08:37] <jekil>  i need a list of all ubuntu default usernames that be setted in /etc/passwd, there is one?
[08:38] <WGGMk> cjones__: sudo is ONLY enabled for the original user when installing ubuntu for the first time
[08:38] <WGGMk> cjones__: I would recommend against using root for ANYTHING
[08:38] <Neeku> WGGMk: yeah. when I want to eject it, a message pops up that an application doesn't let it be ejected
[08:38] <Paolinho> Neeku, is the dvdrom-drive mounted ?
[08:38] <cjones__> wggmk sudo passwd root turns it on
[08:38] <soneil> cjones__: if you don't need sudo fullstop, I'd just rename sudoers to sudoers.orig or something.  that way if the proverbial hits the fan, you've a quick-fix in singleuser boot
[08:38] <Neeku> Paolinho: yes
[08:38] <Paolinho> Neeku, try sudo umount /media/cdrom
[08:39] <Paolinho> (or any other path, that leeds to your cdrom-drive)
[08:39] <WGGMk> cjones__: i know.. but you should NOT use it.. its not good security practices
[08:39] <WGGMk> Paolinho: not having hte CDROM mounted wouldnt stop it from opening
[08:39] <cjones__> if i cant brake my box ill never learn how to fix it
[08:39] <Alamue> Howdy, anyone know of any software that can be used with my HTC 6700 Pocket PC? Palm OS Devices does not work.
[08:39] <bazhang> cjones__: famous last words ;]
[08:39] <cjones__> ive also heard that sudo is not good sec pratice
[08:40] <Neeku> Paolinho: how can I find what the path is?
[08:40] <WGGMk> cjones__: these are just words of the wise.. root is locked for a reason... you can achieve the same via "sudo"
[08:40] <Neeku> (instead of cdrom)
[08:40] <cjones__> i can always reinstall
[08:40] <cjones__> this is just a learning box
[08:40] <cjones__> thanks guys for the help
[08:41] <Paolinho> Neeku, less /etc/fstab and then look for your cdrom
[08:41] <WGGMk> cjones__: gluck
[08:41] <soneil> If you want trial by fire, any unix will give you all the rope you need.  just don't expect people to recommend it :)
[08:41] <bazhang> heh
[08:41] <rcuhljr> anyone got a minute to help a complete linux newcomer out?
[08:41] <bazhang> may as well throw automatix and envy on top
[08:42] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: shoot
[08:42] <iambernie> Hello, is possible to make a shared folder of a dvd/cd device if there is no cd/dvd in it?
[08:42] <rcuhljr> setting up kismet, and I'm looking to install new drivers for my wireless card
[08:42] <WGGMk> iambernie: you can share the mount path, but it wont go anywhere if there's no media inserted
[08:43] <rcuhljr> since I believe the default ones are my current stumbling block.
[08:43] <Neeku> Paolinho: "not mounted"
[08:43] <Paolinho> Neeku, and you can't eject it?
[08:43] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: what is kismet? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:43] <Neeku> yeah
[08:43] <rcuhljr> 7.10 x64
[08:43] <rcuhljr> Kismet is a wireless network monitoring software.
[08:43] <rcuhljr> it just passively listens and detects networks
[08:44] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: have you tried restricted-drivers-manager?
[08:44] <Neeku> Paolinho: the dvd has some probelems so it cant be read. now i want to eject it but something doesn't let me
[08:44] <bahman> Hi everybody :)
[08:44] <iambernie> WGGMk: Do I have to do that in the shell, because I can't use the GUI to make the dvd device a shared folder if there's no cd in it. (using smb btw)
[08:44] <rcuhljr> WGGMk: Can't say that I know what that is
[08:45] <Paolinho> Neeku, very strange, the only idea I got now, is to reboot your system and get it out before booting...
[08:45] <WGGMk> iambernie: you can make a share pointing to the mount path of the drive your sharing... edit the smb.conf file..
[08:45] <cvd> the roms has a small hole, out something in it
[08:45] <Neeku> oh no!
[08:45] <Miesco> Whats better Debian or Ubuntu
[08:45] <Paolinho> Neeku, I saw my system hang some time ago with an unreadable cdrom
[08:45] <soneil> Neeku: hdparm -L 0 /path/device should manually drop the lock flag.   it shouldn't be needed tho
[08:45] <Neeku> Paolinho: can't I find the application from the system monitor?
[08:45] <cvd> ubuntu
[08:45] <iambernie> WGGMk: Ok, thanks.
[08:45] <bazhang> Neeku: what about opening a cd burning app and then choosing eject from that?
[08:45] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: click System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager
[08:45] <Ububegin> whats the diff between apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu2.2_i386.deb & apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu4.1_i386.deb  ..  the diff is ubuntu2.2 vs ubuntu4.1 ...
[08:45] <rcuhljr> yeah just found it nosing around
[08:45] <bahman> I have a problem with my Firefox in Ubuntu gutsy... when the ubuntu updated, firefox couldn't work with all my AddOns
[08:46] <Miesco> Whats you Ununtu user's opinion on Debian?
[08:46] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: does it say that wireless firmware is enabled?
[08:46] <bazhang> bahman: what version of firefox
[08:46] <rcuhljr> the only thing it found so far is my video card.
[08:46] <WGGMk> Miesco: without Debian there is no Ubuntu
[08:46] <bazhang> Miesco: you ask this in #ubuntu?
[08:47] <cvd> ubunut try to make it more easy? i dont know
[08:47] <bahman> dear bazhang I thinks its now 2.11
[08:47] <Miesco> Word around is people in #Debian think they are better
[08:47] <soneil> Miesco: that's really difficult to get an unbiased answer to.  especially in here :)   but personally, I love debian for their thoroughness, and ubuntu for their fixed & predictable release schedule.   but I'm not a desktop user, and you know what they say about everyone having as*cough*opinions ..
[08:47] <bazhang> bahman: what version of ubuntu and what addons
[08:48] <wyrmul> I am trying to set the group of a folder?  I cannot determine the command.
[08:48] <WGGMk> Miesco: Debian vs Ubuntu is kinda pointless
[08:48] <mohshami> hey guys, how can I enable the progress bar in the command line ftp client?
[08:48] <Paolinho> wyrmul, chgrp
[08:48] <Ububegin> It cant be diff version of ubuntu rite... since they both released in 2007.. is it the diff kernel versions
[08:49] <Miesco> soneil: Okay thanks, I have used Debian since forever and Ubuntu seems to be more up to date (more releases), I dont know, i'll probably just buy a laptop with Ubuntu already on it and keep this desktop Debian
[08:49] <WGGMk> Miesco: my suggestion is to try both
[08:49] <Ububegin> Miesco: Do Ubuntu vs Vista instead... :D
[08:49] <netgear> when installing ubuntu restricted-extras i get an error code (1) from sub process /usr/bin/dpkg how do i fix this?
[08:49] <wyrmul> Paolinho: k thanks
[08:49] <Miesco> Ububegin: You think vista or ubuntu is better?
[08:50] <bahman> bazhang Gutsy, and all my AddOns could work up tp ver 3.0 FF
[08:50] <Ububegin> Miesco: what do you think ... :D
[08:50] <soren> Does anyone have a "AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+
[08:50] <kaizoku> What is CONFIG_X86_PAE=y for?
[08:50] <Miesco> Vista makes me want to cut my wrists with dull glass
[08:50] <soren> Does anyone have a "AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+" CPU?
[08:50] <kaizoku> Is that an ubuntu specific option?
[08:50] <mohshami> Miesco: Ubuntu hands down
[08:50] <bazhang> more of a firefox issue bahman
[08:51] <Ububegin> whats the diff between apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu2.2_i386.deb & apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu4.1_i386.deb .. the diff is ubuntu2.2 vs ubuntu4.1 ...
[08:51] <Neeku> soneil: what should I write instead of /path/drive ?
[08:51] <Ububegin> whats the diff between apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu look[2.2|4.1] here _i386.deb
[08:51] <Ububegin> wats 2.2 and 4.1 mean
[08:52] <WGGMk> good night everyone
[08:52] <Miesco> Yea I guess ubuntu is better, but windows aint bothering us, are they?  Why cant we just let them do their thing?
[08:52] <Neeku>  /media/cdrom0 ?
[08:52] <cvd> intel or amd
[08:52] <bazhang> bye
[08:52] <WGGMk> Final Note: Windows sucks..... they are a company built on lies and stolen goods
[08:52] <WGGMk> gnite
[08:52] <WGGMk> lol
[08:52] <WGGMk> !lol | WGGMk
[08:53] <Miesco> WGGMk: Every hour im on windows I turn a little bit more homosexual
[08:53] <bahman> bazhang So how could I solve my problem?!
[08:53] <WGGMk> oh jeeze
[08:53] <rcuhljr> So if I have the .ucode file for the new driver, how do I switch to that driver?
[08:53] <bazhang> bahman: what addons
[08:53] <cvd> = get out of the closet
[08:53] <WGGMk> gluck with that Miesco
[08:53] <Miesco> And a little bit more suicidle too
[08:53] <Ububegin> Miesco: when u using windows, better not get close to u, man...
[08:53] <soneil> Neeku: if /dev/cdrom0 exists, it sounds like a good candidate.   otherwise I'd "grep cdrom /etc/fstab" and see what was detected at install-time
[08:53] <bahman> bazhang Is there any way to go back my previous  version of firefox?!
[08:54] <Miesco> I might rape you then jump into the bath with a windows computer plugged in
[08:54] <soneil> Neeku: it's not /media/anything tho .. they're mountpoints, not devices   (long story)
[08:54] <bazhang> bahman: which version do you want to go back to? 1.5?
[08:55] <cvd> i wonder, when is the day that i can buy OSX and install it in my PC
[08:55] <bazhang> Miesco: please stop
[08:55] <rcuhljr> anyone know how to manually update a driver?
[08:55] <Neeku> soneil: you mean i must use /dev/scd1 ?
[08:55] <kaizoku> Does anyone here know anything about the kernel..?
[08:55] <Neeku> soneil: none works
[08:55] <soneil> cvd: the day apple stop making unholy profit margins on hardware
[08:55] <kaizoku> And whether or not the CONFIG_X86_PAE symbol is ubuntu specific?
[08:55] <Aloha> Miesco, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:56] <FiRaRi> d0131d0131d0131d0131d0131n d0131d0131d0131d0131d0131d
[08:56] <cvd> i dont care if linux is OPen or windows in propietary,  i just like OS's
[08:57] <soren> kaizoku: It's not.
[08:57] <Miesco> I mean, just like 4 hours would only make me a little bit more homosexual, not a lot, if I spent 30 years on it, if I hadent taken a screwdriver and jammed it in my throat, i'd probably be a flamming homosexual
[08:57] <bahman> bazhang Version 2.7
[08:57] <kaizoku> soren: Do you know why I might not see it in the vanilla config?
[08:57] <kaizoku> soren: *vanilla sources
[08:57] <Neeku> oh my God! Isn't there such an option to find the application preventing this drive from being ejected?!
[08:57] <Neeku> linux sucks
[08:57] <bahman> bazhang 2.7 work in a good way
[08:57] <kaizoku> soren: Is there something else I need to enable first?
[08:58] <Miesco> I need to go to sleep
[08:58] <soren> kaizoku: enable X86_32 and disable HIGHMEM4G.
[08:58] <cvd> just restar the pc man
[08:59] <cvd> and then you can rejected
[08:59] <Miesco> Its 4am here, dont know about you
[08:59] <Neeku> cvd: well, that's not a solution
[08:59] <dondong> Hallo?
[08:59] <tumbleweed05> hi
[08:59] <Miesco> I'll be going to bed now and put an end to all my trolling :)
[09:00] <Neeku> heh! I found and killed the process
[09:00] <Seveas> cs kb Miesco
[09:00]  * Neeku is proud of herself!! :D
[09:00] <mythtv> is there a package that installes the mplayer/codecs.conf ?
[09:00] <Flynsarmy> Why is th eupdate manager offering me updates to kde core libraries if i use Gnome?
[09:00] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras mythtv
[09:00] <soneil> Flynsarmy: have you installed anything at all that uses kde's libraries?
[09:01] <soren> Flynsarmy: Because you've got kde core libraries installed.
[09:01] <kaizoku> soren: I still don't see it.
[09:01] <Seveas> mythtv, mplayer has it in its examples/ folder
[09:01] <usrl> If a website I'm going to only has repos for Debian (Etch, Lenny, Sid) versions, which one would be best to use with Gutsy?
[09:01] <kaizoku> soren: It's not even commented out in .config
[09:01] <Seveas> usrl, a gutsy one.
[09:02] <usrl> Seveas: There is no gutsy repo. Just ones for debian versions.
[09:02] <Seveas> usrl, so download the source package and rebuild :)
[09:02] <usrl> Seveas: No thanks.
[09:03] <kaizoku> soren: Is there anything else that might be blocking it?
[09:03] <thokle> Hey I have a problem I ubuntu can not find basic session when it starts up, so I can only start up i save session mode, is there any one who has an idea of what I can do?
[09:04] <cvd> tomorow is gonna be the day of the linuc desktop
[09:04] <soren> kaizoku: You sure you don't have HIGHMEM4G enabled?
[09:04] <kaizoku> soren: Yes, I have  172 CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
[09:04] <soren> kaizoku: There's your problem.
[09:04] <soren> kaizoku: Why do you care about PAE anyway?
[09:05] <kaizoku> soren: What should I have enabled..?
[09:05] <kaizoku> CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G?
[09:05] <soren> For instance, yes.
[09:05] <MecSympaTiK> http://www.math-linux.com/spip.php?article86
[09:05] <kaizoku> soren: I need PAE because xen won't accept a non-PAE guest kernel.
[09:05] <MecSympaTiK> www.math-linux.com nice tutorials
[09:05] <MecSympaTiK> tips and course
[09:05] <soren> kaizoku: Ok.
[09:06] <kaizoku> soren: Oh, thanks!
[09:06] <cvd> the most cheaper A+ cert?
[09:06] <Neeku> any tools for editing mp3 tags?
[09:06] <mohshami> Neeku: Amarok
[09:06] <cvd> EasyTag
[09:07] <bazhang> !info easytag
[09:07] <ubotu> easytag (source: easytag): viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2-1 (gutsy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[09:07] <cvd> ubotu
[09:07] <bazhang> Neeku: see above
[09:08] <Neeku> bazhang: can't I do it with right clicking on the song?
[09:08] <Neeku> (seems that I need to switch to root, but I don't know how)
[09:08] <bazhang> Neeku: in amarok?
[09:08] <Neeku> bazhang: no, without that.
[09:08] <cvd> amarok, here, amarok there.. who use amarok nayway
[09:09] <unagi> kde > gnome
[09:09] <unagi> :D
[09:09] <white_eagle> I can't play planet penguin racer, because I enabled those experimental features and now I can't even run the game, I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling but the game still doesn't run
[09:09] <white_eagle> can I fix this somehow?
[09:09] <Neeku> how should i switch to rrot?
[09:09] <Neeku> sudo root ?
[09:09] <Neeku> sudo?
[09:09] <Neeku> none works
[09:09] <white_eagle> Neeku, look
[09:09] <white_eagle> first
[09:09] <white_eagle> logging as root isn't recommended
[09:10] <white_eagle> you need to use the sudo command in the terminal
[09:10] <dgjones> !sudo
[09:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[09:10] <white_eagle> and then enter your admin password
[09:10] <H4ck3rx> Neeku: try this sudo su
[09:10] <Kcaj> Heya
[09:10] <Kcaj> Can I aska kind of non-ubuntu question? :x
[09:10] <white_eagle> ..
[09:10] <Neeku> H4ck3rx: great!
[09:10] <Kcaj> Can't think of anywhere better to ask it ^^ haha
[09:10] <cvd> no
[09:10] <bazhang> Neeku: right clicking works here
[09:10] <dgjones> Kcaj, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <Kcaj> I'm curious if anyone here knows about 401(k) plans and getting dividends
[09:10] <Kcaj> Ah, ok
[09:10] <bazhang> Kcaj: ubuntu is a support channel
[09:11] <cvd> he need support of 401k
[09:11] <tumbleweed05> is there a way i can have a spellchecker system wide? like in os x?
[09:11] <khelll> am using gparted: but all i get is one partition with "unallocated space "
[09:13] <jetscreamer> don't you already have one?
[09:13] <jetscreamer> !info aspell
[09:13] <ubotu> aspell (source: aspell): GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.5-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 130 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[09:13] <jetscreamer> there are others
[09:13] <ProudBritish> hi all
[09:13] <_GodMasterss_> hi
[09:13] <khelll> am using gparted: but all i get is one partition with "unallocated space " , what's wrong???
[09:13] <white_eagle> I can't play planet penguin racer, because I enabled those experimental features and now I can't even run the game, I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling but the game still doesn't run
[09:14] <cvd> delete the ./ of planet
[09:14] <hk2999> how do i change the panel text color in gutsy. the .gtkrc-2.0 trick doesn't seem to work anymore?
[09:15] <cvd> what time is it there?
[09:15] <hk2999> @time
[09:15] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: January 31 2008, 09:15:22 - Next meeting: MOTU in 1 day
[09:15] <soneil> where?
[09:15] <cvd> there
[09:15] <hk2999> oh
[09:16] <cvd> @time
[09:16] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: January 31 2008, 09:16:22 - Next meeting: MOTU in 1 day
[09:17] <hk2999> how do i change the panel text color in gutsy? the .gtkrc-2.0 trick doesn't seem to work anymore
[09:18] <livenicely> i cant copy vcd into my hard drive i have ext3 partioin
[09:19] <BLUG_Fred> HI! Has anyone installed sql-ledger on Ubuntu server here?
[09:19] <livenicely> i cant copy vcd into my hard driver. i have ext3 partition
[09:19] <wyrmul> I am trying to determine how much ram I have installed?
[09:20] <Neeku> is there any other tool rather than amarok which is smaller?
[09:20] <bazhang> livenicely: how are you trying to do it? drag and drop?
[09:20] <Neeku> for editing tags
[09:21] <bazhang> right click is smaller neeku
[09:21] <cvd> why the hell when i select the windows os in the grub, it ask me' are you sure"
[09:21] <saftsack> scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/asterisk/bristuff-0.3.0-PRE-1y-p/zaptel-<IP_ADDRESS>/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Schluss has someone informations regarding this issue?
[09:21] <Neeku> bazhang: although I did su, it doesn't give me permission to edit that
[09:21] <Shinobi> hey alsa guru's online please?.... i have a realtek ac97 integrated asus sound card on my desktop ubuntu box, i can hear the sound perfectly well but my mic is not working and it cant be tested in sound recorder because that program crashes everytime i try to use it for checking...any help?
[09:21] <soneil> wyrmul: "free -h" is a good start.
[09:22] <bazhang> Neeku: why root? that will come back to haunt you ;[
[09:22] <livenicely> yes
[09:22] <livenicely> drg and drop
[09:22] <Neeku> bazhang: because it says that 'the owner is root'
[09:22] <neeto> so I have ntfs-config installed, and an NTFS drive in my computer, whenever I try to mount it (media/sdb2) it says device busy... I've even tried -o force, and it still says it's busy. Can I get it to stop whatever it's doing and mount already?
[09:22] <bazhang> livenicely: need to rip it
[09:22] <livenicely> and also copy .dat track from vcd and paste it into home folder
[09:22] <snorkel> nick shaark
[09:23] <SleepingSloth> cvd,  haha - probably grub developers little joke
[09:23] <Ububegin> i installed like this ... [sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb] ... however to uninstall i haf to do this [sudo dpkg -r package_name ] May I know what is the package_name ... tks
[09:23] <livenicely> which is best ripper for a vcd
[09:23] <livenicely> and y vcd is not supported
[09:23] <livenicely> dvd has no problem
[09:24] <bazhang> k3b livenicely
[09:24] <livenicely> i have installed k3b
[09:24] <livenicely> i am going to check it
[09:24] <bazhang> then use it
[09:25] <cvd> well ca ya later
[09:27] <cvd> any here has a tux usplash?
[09:28] <tech_m> hello! anybody here who knows how to set-up joomla in ubuntu server?
[09:29] <Brinson> someone just posted an adobe survey on the forum. Everyone should do it. If adobe ported their apps to linux..........
[09:29] <khelll> what is the disk check utility in ubuntu ?
[09:29] <Brinson> I mean, it prolly won't happen, but if we got like every linux user to fill out the survey.
[09:29] <erUSUL> khelll: fsck
[09:30] <bazhang> offtopic Brinson
[09:30] <Brinson> I still don't know what this channel is. Its the default for the X-Chat client I installed.
[09:30] <Neeku> i installed cowbell for tag editing; but I can't find where it's installed
[09:30] <bazhang> ubuntu support not chit chat Brinson
[09:30] <erUSUL> !offtopic | Brinson
[09:30] <ubotu> Brinson: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:31] <erUSUL> !hi | Brinson
[09:31] <ubotu> Brinson: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:32] <tech_m> hello? I created public_html in home folder...change its permission ....but I can´t access it in http
[09:32] <tech_m> anybody here who could assist me?
[09:33] <khelll> am trying gparted and am getting Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[09:33] <Ububegin> tech_m : dont u have to install a server or sumtin for it
[09:34] <orbisvicis> tech_m, did you move it to /var/www/apache if using apache?
[09:34] <tech_m> M usign ubuntu server
[09:34] <Merphy> hi everybody
[09:34] <orbisvicis> yeah thats it then
[09:34] <tumbleweed05> hey merphy
[09:34] <tech_m> I cannot move the folder.. I tried to right click but paste is not highligthd
[09:35] <Merphy> any idea to install modem toshiba machine (toshiba satellite A-100)
[09:35] <orbisvicis> ubuntu server doesnt have an X server ... you shouldnt have a screen
[09:35] <orbisvicis> in console terminal
[09:35] <erUSUL> !dialup | Merphy
[09:35] <ubotu> Merphy: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[09:35] <orbisvicis> cp -R ~/public_html /var/www/apache
[09:37] <tech_m> what do you mean with it?
[09:37] <Merphy> ok thanks
[09:37] <tech_m> m using ubuntu server with gui installed./..
[09:37] <tech_m> so, how could I move the folder there ?
[09:38] <orbisvicis> tech_m, you need root privileges
[09:38] <tech_m> how to do it?
[09:39] <orbisvicis> so, sudo cp -R ~/public_html /var/www/apache
[09:39] <VvWolverinevV> hi does anyone know what package creates a "file:" folder in the home folder?
[09:39] <Ububegin> i installed like this ... [sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb] ... however to uninstall i haf to do this [sudo dpkg -r package_name ] May I know what is the package_name ... tks
[09:39] <orbisvicis> or sudo nautilus -no-desktop
[09:40] <kubitz> VvWolverinev that happened to me i tihnk it was aone of the filesharing Apps did it
[09:40] <orbisvicis> one copies it, one opens nautilus with root permissions
[09:40] <kubitz> I installed a sfew at once so I don't know which
[09:40] <Jakke77_> http://data.exet.nu/flash/pinguin.swf
[09:40] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: it regenerates itself :(
[09:41] <sseNssesSiroSori> hi
[09:41] <kubitz> Ah that didn't happen for me but then I changed all the paths to more suitable ones so if you left the defualt it may have the recreate it to have somewhere to go
[09:42] <BadRobot> hi there
[09:42] <ssenSiroSoriSnes> hi
[09:42] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: ok ill look into it thanks
[09:42] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV was it soon after installing p2p software?
[09:42] <kubitz> I'm just curious
[09:42] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: possibly, i've tried a few this week
[09:42] <tech_m> ububegin<<< I cannot still move the folder there? Please help
[09:43] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV i have a feeling it's either Amule or one of the Gnutella clones if that helps to narrow it down
[09:43] <Ububegin> did u use sudo mv
[09:43] <Neeku> I', sure my password is correct but it says it's wrong and I cant log on as root
[09:43] <BadRobot> i want to install ubuntu on my free and spare partition,so do i have to install it w/o grub or do i have to install grub to the same partition where ubuntu comes.I already have other linux on this box
[09:43] <Neeku> help me
[09:43] <sseNssesSiroSori> hi
[09:43] <BadRobot> just type grep -i 'single white female' /usr2/home/women/* Neeku
[09:43] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: this week, i've tried limewire, ktorrent... i think that's it
[09:43] <Ububegin> tech_m : did u use sudo mv
[09:43] <BadRobot> the best is azureus
[09:44] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: maybe limewire, i installed abunch of different version of that
[09:44] <Neeku> BadRobot: huh?!!!!!!
[09:44] <tech_m> I tried sudo cp -R ~/public_html /var/www/apache
[09:44] <BadRobot> i just kidding
[09:44] <VvWolverinevV> BadRobot: kubitz: i also tried azureus this week forgot about that
[09:44] <Neeku> BadRobot: I see!!!
[09:44] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV ah i think limewire uses the same nets as Amule so it may be that
[09:44] <Neeku> but i need help now
[09:44] <VvWolverinevV> ok
[09:44] <soneil> BadRobot: if you're confident adding another grub entry to your existing system, I'd skip grub on this instal.  you only need one copy going.  two is just going to confuse things
[09:44] <odysseas> BadRobot you can update the existing grub to boot ubuntu
[09:44] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV ah I just stuck with the basic Bittorrent
[09:45] <tech_m> and I checked it...and yeah I was able to add folder apache there...but still I cannot even delete nor add joomla contents there
[09:45] <kubitz> I'm not really a specialist in that field so it was enough for me
[09:45] <tech_m> PLEASE ASSIST>.
[09:45] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: ktorrent is nice, and you can get it from add/remove
[09:45] <BadRobot> how do i update it?
[09:45] <VvWolverinevV> Neeku: azureus is the best bt client on mac os x IMO
[09:45] <BadRobot> sorry i like ubuntu ,but isn't perfect to keep it as my single distro .Odysseas
[09:45] <orbisvicis> tech_m, for more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:46] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV there are just so many aren't there - I was just blitzed by the sheer numbers on offer
[09:46] <odysseas> BadRobot better use ubuntu's grub, it will detect your other linux install and place it in grub so you'll have no problems
[09:46] <BadRobot> thx
[09:46] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: move to ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <BadRobot> I have pc-bsd on the other parttion
[09:46] <orbisvicis> anyone know how to disable a specific program from starting up ... only when logged on via xvnc?
[09:46] <BadRobot> *partition
[09:47] <soneil> odysseas: until the other system gets an updated grub package, installs to mbr, and everything goes to pot.  he needs to remove grub from one of the two.  ignoring the second won't make it go away
[09:48] <Th3Count> anyone manage to install Ubuntu w/ a geforce 8800GTS from what im reading the cards not compatable
[09:48] <BadRobot> try Linux Mint
[09:48] <bazhang> offtopic BadRobot
[09:48] <BadRobot> it is a Ubuntu based distro
[09:49] <bazhang> and a poor suggestion as well
[09:50] <ethana3> I was wondering about that flash thing
[09:50] <Shinobi> bazhang, u good wiith alsa mate?
[09:50] <ethana3> Dell rolled out Ubuntu on the XPS..
[09:50] <ethana3> Hardy Alpha4 is supposed to come out today..
[09:50] <ethana3> any idea how long I'll be waiting?
[09:50] <BadRobot> Maybe i will work better,i have tried Ubuntu on my friends box and didn't even boot,then install Linux mint and it worked,the happened to other friend Ubuntu works but no other distro in his box
[09:51] <ethana3> yes.
[09:51] <ethana3> it will work much better
[09:51] <ethana3> see, xorg had a bug in it
[09:51] <ethana3> where if you have an integrated gpu
[09:51] <ethana3> and a card
[09:51] <ethana3> it doesn't work
[09:51] <Shinobi> er sometimes for some odd reason the top of all my windows suddenly disappear
[09:51] <ethana3> they fixed it, and those fixes are in hardy
[09:51] <ethana3> that's the window decorator crashing
[09:51] <ethana3> are you using metacity, kwin, or compiz?
[09:52] <bazhang> !hardy
[09:52] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:52] <ethana3> Shinobi: what window manager?
[09:52] <ethana3> ah, got it
[09:52] <ethana3> thank you bazhang
[09:52] <Shinobi> ethana3, ubuntu gutsy
[09:52] <ethana3> hmm
[09:52] <Shinobi> ethana3, compiz
[09:52] <ethana3> does it have neat effects
[09:52] <ethana3> oh, ok
[09:52] <ethana3> lol
[09:53] <Shinobi> :)
[09:53] <ethana3> yeah, emerald must be crashing for some reason
[09:53] <Shinobi> oh ok
[09:53] <Shinobi> how do i bring them back?
[09:53] <ethana3> ..though I really can't tell you why
[09:53] <ethana3> uh
[09:53] <ethana3> I'd run emerald in the terminal
[09:53] <ethana3> but I don't know if you can even do that
[09:54] <Shinobi> i can do everything just that the top of all the windows are gone :/
[09:54] <ethana3> yeah, the window decorations
[09:54] <Shinobi> ethana3, when i run it emerald from the terminal they return lol
[09:54] <Shinobi> thanks
[09:54] <ethana3> oh
[09:54] <ethana3> no problem
[09:54] <ethana3> ;)
[09:54] <Shinobi> but i still need a fix for my alsa
[09:55] <Shinobi> the mic is not working
[09:55] <Shinobi> and the sound preferences program has crashed
[09:55] <ethana3> hmm
[09:55] <ethana3> that's not my area of expertise
[09:55] <ethana3> I use pulseaudio
[09:55] <Shinobi> btwn i think thats whats causing emarald to crash
[09:56] <ethana3> weird
[09:56] <Shinobi> i cant close the sound preferences window :@
[09:56] <daoudi5> -
[09:57] <daoudi5> hello
[09:57] <daoudi5> please someone can help to just reconfigure my keyboard
[09:57] <Shinobi> how can i kill it? i just wont close
[09:57] <daoudi5> because i dont give the right touche
[09:58] <Shinobi> i m gonna reboot now
[09:58] <Shinobi> brb
[09:58] <Kcaj> douche
[09:58] <odysseas> Shinobi ps aux and kill it
[09:58] <erUSUL> daoudi5: System>Preferences>Keyboard  ??
[09:58] <Kcaj> Oh wait, no, touche
[09:58] <daoudi5> for example whan a type "b" it is "bg" which appear
[09:59] <tumbleweed05> well i'm off to bed. night everyone.
[10:00] <BadRobot> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
[10:01] <haptiK> hi is it possible to pass the root password to sudo using a flag
[10:02] <neeto> huh?
[10:02] <neeto> sudo -s you mean?
[10:02] <neeto> oh I see what you mean, nevermind me
[10:03] <haptiK> -s changes the shell env
[10:03] <Neeku> i'm back again :D
[10:04] <bullgard4> What is the reason that Ubuntu does not provide a DEb program package for OmagaT?
[10:04] <Neeku> could you please tell me how to edit mp3 tags? any software rather than amarok? a small sized one
[10:04] <redspike> Hi all, Any one know my my Linux hosts logging " rtc: lost some interrupts at 256Hz. " all the time and my clock in my guests go slow? :(
[10:04] <redspike> iam running Vmware server
[10:06] <erUSUL> Neeku: i use easytag
[10:07] <Neeku> erUSUL: sudo apt-get install easytag ??
[10:07] <erUSUL> Neeku: should work
[10:10] <Neeku> erUSUL: great
[10:10] <Neeku> erUSUL: thanks a lot
[10:10] <joachim_> how do I set my system to boot to command line instead of gnome?
[10:11] <ikonia> joachim_: remove gdm as a startup script from run level 2
[10:11] <ikonia> joachim_: man update-rc
[10:12] <joachim_> how do I check the current update.rc settings so I can put it back after?
[10:13] <joachim_> there's no /etc/inittab
[10:19] <tim167> what command can i use to search for a term inside all te *.txt files on my hardrive ?
[10:22] <dabr> tim167: find / -name "*.txt" | grep whatever
[10:22] <Ce_eXeMpHe_EFh> _lg_di_bdg
[10:23] <Ce_eXeMpHe_EFh> alow
[10:24] <emily> heya, is there anyone here who understands file permissions fairly well?
[10:24] <ewen> well enough :) what's the q?
[10:25] <emily> right, I've installed ubuntu on my vista laptop, got the thing partitioned properly and everything
[10:25] <CO_BANDUNG_23> HI ALL
[10:25] <emily> installed ntfs-3g and and have set up an ntfs partition as home
[10:26] <emily> now, all of the user permissions of all of the files on this ntfs partition are root, and it refuses to change them, whether or not I use sudo
[10:26] <emily> why?
[10:26] <joachim_> emily: does ubuntu support writing to ntfs?
[10:26] <jeroenimo> ntfs-3g does
[10:26] <emily> via ntfs=3g, yes
[10:26] <joachim_> ah
[10:26] <LispWarez> hello all
[10:27] <Johnny_5> y would u want 2 put ubuntu on a ntfs partition to begin with??
[10:27] <joachim_> check your /etc/fstab