[00:35] <tsimonq2> Ovidiu left :(
[00:36] <valorie> both chans
[00:36] <valorie> :(
[00:36] <valorie> I hope he's ok
[00:36] <tsimonq2> :/
[00:36] <tsimonq2> I do too
[00:50] <valorie> tsimonq2: my funding for lfnw has been approved
[00:50] <valorie> just sent claire my info
[00:51] <valorie> took 'em long enough....
[00:51] <tsimonq2> valorie: Nice!
[00:51] <tsimonq2> I had to do some poking myself, I just today got details from Claire for SELFd
[00:51] <tsimonq2> s/SELFd/SELF/
[00:52] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: ^
[00:52] <valorie> they are in general as slow as molasses in January
[00:52] <valorie> but whatever
[00:53] <valorie> I've always gotten the funds in the end
 @tsimonq2, Got it.
[00:54] <tsimonq2> I'm 2 for 3 with funds so far :)o
 Damn what else did you apply for?
 I applied to go to UbuCon Europe 2016 … I should have known better, I wouldn't apply to go to an UbuCon in a foreign country across the pond today! … It took them two months to get back to me
[00:58] <valorie> eek, already dinner time
[00:59] <valorie> day is shorter when I go outside to work!
 Lets at least discuss a minimal install option: https://phabricator.kde.org/T8116
[20:44] <valorie> good idea
[22:09] <valorie> bleah, so little testing done for xenial upgrade
[22:09]  * valorie drinks more coffee to get over it
[22:37] <acheronuk> wanting testing on xenial milestone isos the week of feature freeze wasn't the cleverest scheduling choice by ubuntu
[22:40] <acheronuk> well. whoever. for me doing testing, anyway. :/
[22:41] <mparillo> valorie: I did test the first Release Candidate of i386 (same three test cases that show here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/386/builds/167243/testcases). Problem is that they are at least on the 3rd RC.
[22:41] <acheronuk> I'll try to do some in the morning
[22:42] <mparillo> Here they are on the superseded build: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/386/builds/166994/testcases
[22:44] <valorie> i'm rsyncing the latest
[22:44] <valorie> and will test on my travel lappy
[22:45] <valorie> but it is not a 386 machine
[22:45] <valorie> I'm glad nate spoke up for ending the i386
[22:46] <valorie> it is now or never for these i386 supporters
[22:46] <valorie> how big does my thumbdrive need to be?
[22:46] <valorie> I've forgotten
[22:51] <mparillo> A 2GB will do it
[22:52] <mparillo> Impossible to buy one that small now.
[22:53] <mparillo> The ISOs are 1.6 GB,
[23:09] <valorie> perfect
[23:09] <valorie> it just froze after I connected to wireless
[23:09] <valorie> hmmm
[23:10] <valorie> yep, totally frozen


[05:53] <superm1> hi ScottK-laptop.  okay to start out you'll need to clone the intrepid git tree
[05:53] <superm1> you can visit http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git for a listing of all the git trees available
[05:53] <superm1> more or less git-clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git
[05:53] <ScottK-laptop> Man, now you want me to use git too.
[05:53] <ScottK-laptop> Doing
[05:54] <superm1> hehe
[05:54] <superm1> i was very resistant of using git myself too at first, but i've come to be at peace with it
[05:54] <superm1> so while that's cloning, click on the ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git link
[05:54] <ScottK-laptop> I need to learn it.
[05:54] <superm1> can try to explain how the tree is organized
[05:55] <ScottK-laptop> OK
[05:55] <superm1> so if you click the "tree" link, you'll see an ubuntu/ subdirectory
[05:55] <superm1> all the out of mainline kernel modules are kept there
[05:55] <superm1> inside there there is a Kconfig for everything that is included in there, it ends up sourcing the Kconfig for subdirectories and more modules
[05:56] <superm1> so you would likely make subdirectory for your module, and then end up modifying Kconfig to source the Kconfig of your module
[05:56] <superm1> also, there is a Makefile that drops it down into the subdirectories as well when they are built
[05:56] <superm1> you'll have to add in a line for that too
[05:56] <ScottK-laptop> Their patch includes kconfig changes
[05:57] <superm1> well it include a Kconfig for the module itself
[05:57] <superm1> the top level Kconfig is just going to call the Kconfig from this module
[05:57] <ScottK-laptop> Yes, and they have the b/security/Kconfig change to add themselves.
[05:58] <superm1> well they are assuming they end up "in tree"
[05:58] <superm1> based through the security directory
[05:58] <superm1> instead you are in the ubuntu directory
[05:58] <superm1> so you'll be patching the Kconfig in the ubuntu directory instead
[05:58] <ScottK-laptop> Right.
[05:58] <ScottK-laptop> So we'd need to modify their patch a little.
[05:58] <superm1> yeah
[05:59] <superm1> just where you are sourcing and what not
[05:59] <superm1> once you've got all those files in place, you need to modify the kernel configs
[05:59] <superm1> in debian/config/(arch)/config
[05:59] <superm1> to add in that extra Kconfig option that they are referring to
[05:59] <superm1> CONFIG_SECURITY_DAZUKO
[06:00] <superm1> the syntax should hopefully be pretty apparent in there
[06:00] <ScottK-laptop> hopefully.  It's 1AM here, so nothing is really apparent at the moment.
[06:00] <superm1> well tomorrow then :)
[06:01] <superm1> let me give you the last two steps and you cna let it sink in and ask questions/what not
[06:01] <superm1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#Build%20the%20kernel%20(when%20source%20is%20from%20git%20repository,%20or%20from%20apt-get%20source)
[06:01] <superm1> that shows you how to build a kernel from the git tree
[06:01] <superm1> you dont want to build all the different variants, just the generic for testing
[06:01] <superm1> so CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic is probably what you want to do
[06:02] <superm1> when you're sure that everything is functional, you can make a git patch out of everything and submit it to the mailing list or publish a git tree.  ping me or someone in here when you are ready to do that so that you can get your git config all ready with commit name and how to use the templates
[06:03] <ScottK-laptop> OK.
[06:03] <ScottK-laptop> I'll probably be asking for help several times again between now and then.
[06:04] <superm1> yeah the first time is pretty confusing when you dont understand syntax and all, but hopefully it should end up more apparent
[06:05] <ScottK-laptop> So I'm reading some more and this is getting a bit scary.
[06:06] <ScottK-laptop> http://dazuko.org/tgen.shtml#LSM indicates the whole thing may not work so well with Apparmor.
[06:06] <superm1> yuck :)
[06:08] <ScottK-laptop> I'm guessing we don't have an RSBAC enbaled kernel http://www.rsbac.org/ and aren't likely to get one.
[06:11] <ScottK-laptop> Which would leave syscall hooking and I'm guessing that won't be popular.
[06:11] <superm1> especially since they dont have snapshots for 2.6.26
[06:15] <ScottK-laptop> Yep.
[06:15] <ScottK-laptop> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=423281 is also relevant.
[06:17] <ScottK-laptop> I think I'm going to go to bed and then ponder tomorrow if I really want to open this can of worms or not.  Here I was just hoping I could wave a little DKMS magic over it and it would be easy.
[06:17] <ScottK-laptop> superm1: Thanks for the help.
[06:17] <superm1> ScottK-laptop, sorry if it won't work here, no DKMS magic will help it either :)
[06:18] <superm1> best of luck sorting out though
[06:19] <ScottK-laptop> Thanks.
[17:19] <soreiser> alex_joni: hi, i tried also all_generic_ide + irqpoll, but.. no way to make it working :/
[17:20] <soreiser> seems that ubuntu-server 7.10 and all ubuntu 8.04 does not support all_generic_ide somehow :( hmm so bad :(
[17:20] <soreiser> *do not
[17:21] <soreiser> all_generic_ide is a very needed parameter for OLD PCs to make them working
[17:21] <superm1> i've personally used all_generic_ide in 8.04 without trouble
[17:22] <soreiser> superm1 it worked for me only with xubuntu 7.10, how is it possible?
[17:23] <soreiser> (and ubuntu 7.10 too, if i dont mistake. but any server version did)
[17:23] <soreiser> *did not
[17:23] <superm1> huh?
[17:23] <soreiser> just tried with ubuntu-server hardy
[17:23] <soreiser> does not work, i get several I/O errors about my hdd
[17:23] <superm1> well are you sure that's really the root cause of your troubles?
[17:24] <superm1> are you thrown to a functional initramfs prompt?  You can check what modules ended up being used
[17:24] <superm1> whether it's ata_piix or what not
[17:25] <soreiser> superm1 sorry i forgot to mention that: i refer to livecds :/ sorry, i totally forgot to say that
[17:25] <soreiser> yeah in grub it works
[17:26] <superm1> soreiser, well in both cases the kernel parameters are passed the same.  you are adding it to the live cd prompt then?
[17:26] <soreiser> yeah superm1
[17:27] <soreiser> something like: "..... all_generic_ide -- " (also tried without the '--'"
[17:27] <superm1> soreiser, well that's awfully odd then if its not being passed on properly only from a live cd
[17:28] <soreiser> so superm1 what could i do? is it going to be fixed for the next release?
[17:28] <superm1> soreiser, i've used all_generic_ide in both a live cd and a scripted install
[17:28] <superm1> so i'm not sure where your issue is
[17:29] <soreiser> superm1 we could talk in italian if is it possible, as i've seen your italian in your personal info
[17:29] <soreiser> *yuo're
[17:29] <soreiser> **you're
[17:30] <superm1> soreiser, sorry i don't speak italian
[17:30] <soreiser> superm1 ah sorry i thought you were :) your is an italian name eheh :)
[17:30] <superm1> i am, but i dont speak it unfortunately
[17:31] <superm1> soreiser, i'd recommend trying to get a bug report together with all of this data you've gathered to get some more eyes on the problem
[17:31] <soreiser> superm1 well, however, simply that parameter does not work me with livecds (except xubuntu/ubuntu 7.10)
[17:32] <soreiser> superm1 yeah i've already made a bug report, even if were not so sure it is a bug
[17:32] <superm1> soreiser, hopefully something will stick out
[17:32] <soreiser> *work for me
[17:32] <superm1> soreiser, sorry i can't be of much more help :)
[17:32] <soreiser> well ok superm1 thanks anyway for your support, good ;)
[17:34] <soreiser> superm1 should i maybe (re :))turn to #ubuntu-dev to report it is not a bug issue then?
[17:34] <superm1> soreiser, well there very well can still be a bug here, your hardware is different than mine, perhaps it's just been a fluke that it's worked in the past for you
[17:34] <superm1> soreiser, i say let the bug triage folks handle it on the report
[17:35] <superm1> that's the best workflow to record all of the empirical data
[17:39] <soreiser> well ok superm1 i'll try to get some workaround from the discussion in the bug report, hoping it will be FIXED soon ;)
[19:08] <Ampelbein> Could a member of bug-control please check on bug #258754? i think it could be set to "triaged".
[20:05] <chris_goe> hm, I shall try again: does anyone know why CONFIG_MD_RAID10 is not selected in hardy's kernel image?
[21:37] <_ruben> chris_goe: because it is?
[21:37] <_ruben> $ grep RAID10 /boot/config-2.6.24-19-server
[21:37] <_ruben> CONFIG_MD_RAID10=m


[00:09] <jcastro> omg.
[00:09] <jcastro> marcoceppi: http://www.discourse.org/
[00:09] <jcastro> marcoceppi: jeff atwood is going to fix forums.
[03:28] <JoseeAntonioR> jono_: locking your QA for tomorrow, as usual
[03:28] <JoseeAntonioR> ?
[03:30] <jono_> JoseeAntonioR, perfect, thanks!
[03:30] <JoseeAntonioR> :)
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[08:59] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:20] <czajkowski> balloons: I saw yur PSA post and all I thought of was the PSA level in men  for prostate cancer, does it mean something different in QA land?
[09:24]  * popey has never heard of "PSA level in men"
[09:24] <czajkowski> popey: maybe not old enough
[09:24] <czajkowski> :)
[09:25] <czajkowski> I worked for a urologist and it's  a test many men have to test their psa level
[09:25] <czajkowski> dad and grandfather now have it yearly also now
[09:25] <popey> so very specific to that line of work ☺
[09:26] <czajkowski> maybe I guess
[09:26] <czajkowski> always heard uncles mention it growing up
[09:26] <czajkowski> guess cancer is in my family
[09:26] <czajkowski> Googling PSA brings it up straight away
[09:28] <popey> Public Service Announcement is what he's using it for.
[09:28] <popey> I assume.
[09:28] <czajkowski> ah never would have gotten that
[09:29] <czajkowski> learnt somethign new this morning :)
[09:29] <popey> heh
[09:29] <popey> me too ☺
[09:29] <czajkowski> popey: get your psa level checked :)
[09:59]  * AlanBell also knew nothing about psa levels
[10:00] <czajkowski> :(
[12:50] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, who normally does the WP updates on ubuntuonair - does IS have to do them?
[13:23] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: yep, it's IS
[13:23] <JoseeAntonioR> now that it's hosted with canonical, they said they were working on a ticket to get all instances updated
[13:23] <dholbach> ok
[15:30] <jono> dpm, all set?
[15:30] <dpm> jono, yes
[15:31] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[15:41] <balloons> czajkowski, popey LOL.. PSA  = public service annoucement..
[15:41] <balloons> I don't ever really use the acronym.. I guess others don't either :-)
[16:03] <jcastro> do we have a hangout now?
[16:03] <jcastro> oh dude
[16:03] <jcastro> it's in the invite
[16:08] <jono> balloons, you coming?
[16:12] <jcastro> balloons: come on man!
[16:20] <s-fox> hello.
[16:59] <dholbach> all right - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! :)
[16:59] <s-fox> Goodbye.
[17:03] <SergioMeneses> dholbach, bye
[17:07] <dholbach> bye :)
[18:22] <balloons> anyone know how to reply to tweets in gwibber?
[18:47] <jcastro> jono: late lunch, but I'm also going to the UPS store to ship out some Juju shirts so I'll be a bit longer than the normal hour
[18:48] <jcastro> I'll have my phone if you need anything
[18:48] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: ready for the Q&A in 11?
[18:49] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, yep
[18:56] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, what are you covering this sunday with launchpad?
[18:56] <balloons> Are you going to cover committing and branching, etc?
[18:56] <JoseeAntonioR> balloons: I think that's cprofitt
[18:57] <balloons> ohh :-).. well cprofitt then.. ^^
[18:57] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, no, that's benonsoftware
[18:57] <balloons> ROFL
[18:57] <JoseeAntonioR> sorry cprofitt
[18:57] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, we'll just ping the whole channel in here
[18:58] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, then
[19:02] <czajkowski> there is a session on launchpad ?
[19:02] <czajkowski> when/where?
[19:03] <balloons> UUD this weekend
[19:03] <czajkowski> is this a launchpad person giving the talk if so  it should be added to our resource pages
[19:03] <balloons> I'm trying to find out more about it
[19:03] <balloons> I see something for sunday midday on it
[19:07] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: I think cprofitt's just touches upon launchpad answers while talking about support, benny's is the one that's about launchpad
[19:07] <pleia2> oh I see, you corrected :)
[19:08] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: nope, it's just a community member
[19:08] <JoseeAntonioR> on sunday at 00:00
[19:08] <czajkowski> fair enough
[21:23] <czajkowski> pleia2: you are my rock!
[21:23] <czajkowski> and my sanity checker :)
[21:23] <pleia2> <3
[21:25] <jcastro> did someone say rock?
[21:26] <czajkowski> I did
[21:26] <czajkowski> see it means something as I use it so little :)
[21:26] <czajkowski> pleia2: keeps me sane
[21:28] <popey> czajkowski: coming to the lug meet on saturday? ☺
[21:28] <jcastro> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/communityteam.JPG
[21:29] <jcastro> an
[21:29] <czajkowski> popey: depends I've physio at 11, and himself as the chimny guy in at 10:30 so depends
[21:29] <jcastro> man dude, I just found the awesomest picture of mhall119 and cjohnston ever
[21:29] <jcastro> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/uds5.jpg
[21:30] <czajkowski> https://twitter.com/czajkowski/status/299237202888626176  is getting feedback via the loco contacts list
[21:30] <pleia2> jcastro: hahaha
[21:30] <popey> hah
[21:30] <pleia2> poor cjohnston :)
[21:30] <imbrandon> lol
[21:30] <popey> czajkowski: I probably wont get there till the afternoon
[21:31] <jcastro> pleia2: he looks like eeyore
[21:31] <czajkowski> popey: ah I've a box of french toys for you also
[21:31] <jcastro> "whoa is me"
[21:31] <jcastro> woe even.
[21:31] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/2618914/in/album/426006  one bit closer to strangling him
[21:32]  * AlanBell idly wonders what french toys popey has asked for
[21:33] <popey> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/2618907/in/album/426006 happy days
[21:33] <czajkowski> I got an amazon shipping of games at xmas from amazon.fr sent to me by accident
[21:33] <czajkowski> amazon said keep them
[21:33] <czajkowski> so am giving them to popey to give to his better half for school :)
[21:33] <czajkowski> popey: that was pre pringles you fecker!
[21:34] <popey> hah
[21:34] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/2618873/in/album/426006  in and around pringle duck face time
[21:35] <popey> love chuck
[21:41] <czajkowski> nice we just had a decent -ie loco meeting, one of the new guys has writen a blog post http://skynet.ie/~andru183/how-ive-found-being-a-member-of-ubuntu-ireland/  nice to read about new folks
[21:57] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, hotdog http://pix.ie/czajkowski/2618876/in/album/426006
[22:18] <AlanBell> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/02/06/217237/ubuntu-smartphone-shipping-in-october interesting stuff
[22:26] <jono> mhall119, http://www.bbqpad.com
[22:26] <jono> that is the site I was working on
[22:27] <jcastro> jono: wow, that's looking _slick_
[22:27] <jono> jcastro, :-)
[22:27] <jono> sample cook: http://www.bbqpad.com/4/
[22:28] <jcastro> nice work with the reddit integration
[22:28] <jono> cheers
[22:28] <mhall119> jono: I'm really liking the bootstrap look
[22:29] <jono> :-)
[22:29] <jono> mhall119, would love you to use it for your next cook
[22:29] <jono> see how you find it
[22:29] <jcastro> YEAH! BOOTSTRAP!
[22:29] <daker> mhall119: there is a diffrence between using bootstrap and looking like bootstrap
[22:30] <mhall119> jono: I'm already signed up
[22:31] <jono> mhall119, nice!
[22:31] <mhall119> now I just need to get some more wood, my pile is empty
[22:33] <jcastro> There is snow outside here, there will be no outdoor cooking
[22:35] <jono> jcastro, people often cook in the snow :-)
[22:35] <jcastro> not this guy
[22:36] <jono> heh
[22:36] <jcastro> I made my adobo though and it's great on pork
[22:36] <jono> mhall119, you are our first sign up :-)
[22:36] <jcastro> I should have plenty of bottles to give people @ UDS
[22:36] <jono> http://www.bbqpad.com/users/mhall119 :-)
[22:37] <mhall119> user_id 2? \o/
[22:39] <mhall119> jono: where do I add info about my smoker
[22:39] <mhall119> ?
[22:40] <jono> mhall119, when you create a cook you add it
[22:40] <mhall119> also, I'm disappointed that #bbqpad isn't a channel already
[22:40] <jono> mhall119, lol
[22:40] <mhall119> ah, so I have to wait until I'm cooking something to show off?
[22:40] <jono> mhall119, yeah, but create a cook to play if you like
[22:40] <jono> will be good to know it works
[22:40] <jono> :-)
[22:44] <jono> mhall119, can you do me a favor and leave a comment on the disqus box at http://www.bbqpad.com/4/ maybe asking a question
[22:44] <jono> I want to fill it with a few comments
[22:46] <mhall119> what disqus box?
[22:48] <jono> mhall119, at the bottom of that page
[22:48] <jono> http://www.bbqpad.com/4/
[22:48] <jono> just ask a question about the cook or something
[22:49] <mhall119> oh, on a specific cook, ok
[22:49] <jono> cheers
[22:51] <cjohnston> jcastro:  :-/
[22:52] <jono> thanks mhall119
[22:53] <mhall119> jono: I like that you're advertising high-fiber breakfast cereal, smart :)
[22:53] <jono> lol
[22:54] <jono> mhall119, so the reddit for the site is http://www.reddit.com/r/bbqpad/
[22:54] <jono> I am hoping to use that as a place for people to post suggestions and improvements
[22:56]  * mhall119 goes to complain about Unity on /r/bbqpad/
[22:56] <jcastro> looks legit
[22:56] <jono> mhall119, lol
[22:57] <jcastro> site needs a hidden Deal with It dog
[22:57] <jono> jcastro, this will happen
[22:57] <jono> possibly tonight
[22:57] <jono> upvotes on http://www.reddit.com/r/BBQ/comments/180y7v/bbqpadcom_new_website_for_tracking_your_cooks/ would help too :-)
[22:58] <IdleOne> needs a lens
[22:58] <IdleOne> site looks good jono interesting side project :)
[22:58] <mhall119> IdleOne: +1
[22:58] <jono> thanks IdleOne :-)
[22:58] <jono> lens would be *sweet*
[22:58] <jcastro> jono: you remember SpecialK right? the person?
[22:58] <IdleOne> get to work!
[22:58] <jono> although we have no API right now
[22:58] <jono> jcastro, yeah
[22:58] <jcastro> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/243/561/afc.gif
[22:59] <jono> jcastro, LOL
[23:06] <jcastro> http://metallicabreakfast.ytmnd.com/


[01:38] <bazhang> serit incoming
[01:41] <IdleOne> heh
[01:41]  * IdleOne makes note not to bet on future against bazhang
[03:13] <\DSAFEW\> Hello, I'm sure someone has been working very hard to make floodbot work correctly, but I'm not sure it's fine-tuned enough, as I was just sent to the unregistered ubuntu channel for failing the 5 second test.
[03:14] <IdleOne> 5 second test?
[03:15] <\DSAFEW\> I'm not saying I would have done your silly human test, because it was pointless to ask a person what could easily be done by a machine, but I would like to know why a registered user was kicked for no reason other than to randomly test for spam
[03:15] <IdleOne> nobody kicked you
[03:15] <IdleOne> the channel was set +r because of spam bots
[03:16] <IdleOne> your client probably didn't identify before joining the channel and that is why you got sent to -unregged
[03:16] <\DSAFEW\> ahh
[03:16] <\DSAFEW\> well I get disconnected whenever somebody uses the microwave
[03:16] <IdleOne> heh
[03:16] <IdleOne> that would be annoying
[03:16] <\DSAFEW\> so I might have reconnected before some server messages were sent
[03:17] <\DSAFEW\> interesting.
[03:17] <IdleOne> sorry for the inconvenience \DSAFEW\
[03:17] <\DSAFEW\> well anyways, I don't know what the problem is, none of my other channels on freenode removed me though
[03:18] <\DSAFEW\> like I said, floodbot might need some fine-tuning
[05:35] <izinucs> sorry.. didn't want to call ops in the channel.. there's a nick that's borderline .. wtfckd ..
[05:40] <izinucs> bazhang: ping ^--^
[05:41] <izinucs> Flannel: ^--^
 cryptopsy_: What exactly do you say in there to get banned?
[07:36] <bazhang> started trolling, PM'd him/her and he stopped
[13:12] <ikonia> who was nikkita yesteday ?
[13:13] <bazhang> brb killing jews   that one? after nicking to h1tler
[13:13] <ikonia> yup, he's gone now
[13:13] <ikonia> and what a surprise readplease now quits after his nonsense is busted
[23:07] <jrib> ...
[23:07] <Flannel> !scope > FusionX
[23:53] <Seeker`> O.o what was that


[00:09] <jimis> hmmm, unshelve --preview was useful to save some diffs, but they are full of conflicts :-s
[00:11] <fullermd> Unshelving would do a better job, since it can merge.  The diffs would just be relative to the basis.
[00:11] <fullermd> Of course, if you've diverged far from the basis, you'd still be paddling.
[00:12] <jimis> fullermd: ideally I'd want to keep a diff versus the source branch/revision
[00:12] <jimis> so that it is most readable in case I ever need it
[00:13] <jimis> I can guess that internally that's the kind of diff stored :-p
[00:14] <jimis> I'll file a feature request
[00:15] <jimis> anyway thanks again :-)
[01:31] <jimis> "bzr info" shows as parent branch an http://bazaar.launchpad.net url
[01:31] <jimis> that means I'm not using the fastest protocol, right?
[01:32] <jimis> I remember I had to use http because of the firewall
[01:32] <jimis> So how can I reset the parent branch to the lp:project url?
[07:02] <LarstiQ> jimis: either `bzr pull --remember lp:branch` or `bzr config parent_location=lp:branch`
[07:03] <LarstiQ> jimis: isn't it an option to copy/rsync your working setup to the different pc?
[17:51] <gwal> hey guys, I recently did a bzr merge because the remote root branch and my local branch were both at revision 4 and bzr rspush complained about it
[17:52] <gwal> now, after successful merge, when doing bzr rspush I get this: You have 2 extra revision and two local revisions: 5 [merge] and 4
[17:52] <gwal> does anyone know how to resolve this?
[17:53] <LarstiQ> gwal: have you committed the merge?
[17:53] <gwal> LastiQ: yes I have
[17:54] <LarstiQ> (also, wow, rspush is a really old plugin, it's still alive?)
[17:55] <LarstiQ> gwal: what does `bzr missing remote/branch` sa?
[17:55] <LarstiQ> say
[17:55] <gwal> oh is it really old? what else would you use to push both the database and files onto a remote box? (sorry if this sounds like I have no idea what I'm talking about ... which is true)
[17:56] <gwal> bzr missing says:
[17:56] <gwal> You have 2 extra revision(s):
[17:56] <gwal> revno: 5 [merge]
[17:56] <gwal> (details about revision)
[17:56] <gwal> revno: 4
[17:57] <gwal> (followed by details about rev 4)
[17:57] <LarstiQ> gwal: so that seems either like it didn't push, or it is comparing with a different location
[17:57] <LarstiQ> afk for a minute
[17:59] <gwal> when I try to do bzr rspush I get: bzr: ERROR: Local branch is not a newer version of remote branch.
[17:59] <gwal> and I am positive that bzr is attempting to push to the same location as always
[18:00] <gwal> and that bzr missing is comparing with the same location
[18:04] <gwal> I also need to go but it would be fantastic if anyone had an idea ... will check later
[18:05]  * LarstiQ has a look at the rspush code
[18:13] <LarstiQ> gwal: what version of bzrtools/bzr are you using?
[18:15] <LarstiQ> gwal: as for the usecase of pushing a branch and then updating the files, there is https://launchpad.net/bzr-push-and-update for example
[19:31] <jimis> LarstiQ: copy/rsync which parts of my setup? I copied the no-trees repo, but the light-checkout can't be copied, a new one must be made from the new location.
[19:31] <LarstiQ> jimis: must it? hmm
[19:32] <jimis> LarstiQ: That happens because checkout refers to absolute path, which is different now.
[19:32] <jimis> I couldn't figure a way to reconfigure this one
[19:32] <LarstiQ> jimis: you _could_ try just the .bzr/checkout/shelf dir
[19:33] <jimis> and the path is absolute, even when I give relative path: "bzr co ../no-trees-repo/trunk"
[19:33] <LarstiQ> jimis: I admit it's a bit hacky, but to get you out of the ditch
[19:34] <jimis> nice, was afraid to just move this one since .bzr is incomprehensible thus I don't mess with it :-)
[19:36] <LarstiQ> jimis: that is good approach usually :)
[22:36] <gwal> LarstiQ: bzr --version spits out this:
[22:36] <gwal> Bazaar (bzr) 2.2.4
[22:36] <gwal>   Python interpreter: /usr/bin/python 2.7.0
[22:36] <gwal>   Python standard library: /usr/lib64/python2.7
[22:36] <gwal>   Platform: Linux-<IP_ADDRESS>-48.fc14.x86_64-x86_64-with-fedora-14-Laughlin
[22:36] <gwal>   bzrlib: /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/bzrlib
[23:15] <dOxxx> gwal: bzr 2.2 is quite old by now, 2.5 is the current stable version.
[23:17] <gwal> dOxxx: do you think that the age of my bzr version causes this error though?
[23:18] <dOxxx> no idea, but I always try the latest version in case it fixes the problem :)
[23:19] <gwal> good call bud ;)
[23:20] <dOxxx> I jsut read up on rspush
[23:20] <dOxxx> are you sure you are pointing it at the same remote branch?
[23:20] <dOxxx> check what `bzr info` says for the push or parent branch
[23:20] <gwal> ok hang on
[23:23] <gwal> yea no I'm positive it's the correct location
[23:24] <gwal> to my mind, this problem came up after I had merged the remote branch (revision 4 at remote location) with my local branch (also revision 4)
[23:25] <gwal> for some reason bazaar now thinks I got two different revisions in my local branch and lists them as revno 5 [merge] and revno 4
[23:25] <gwal> maybe it is still trying to push revno 4 to the remote location when it really should be pushing revno 5
[23:25] <dOxxx> did your local and remote branch diverge at rev 4? i.e. is your local rev 4 commit different from the remote rev 4 commit?
[23:25] <gwal> yes they're different
[23:26] <gwal> but I merged them into revno 5
[23:26] <gwal> which I am now trying to push to the remote location
[23:26] <dOxxx> what if you try using the standard push command?
[23:27] <gwal> hang on
[23:28] <gwal> hmm ... it claims I'm holding a lock at this computer and therefore can't push
[23:28] <dOxxx> the rspush docs say " It will also error out if the upstream directory is non-empty and not an earlier version of the branch."
[23:29] <dOxxx> this makes me suspect that it can't handle divergent branches even if you merged them
[23:30] <dOxxx> do you have any other bzr tools open that are using your local branch?
[23:30] <dOxxx> like qlog or something like that?
[23:30] <gwal> no it's really just the one terminal I'm working in
[23:31] <gwal> I don't even know what qlog is ... I'll Google it
[23:31] <dOxxx> qlog is part of thq qbzr plugin, it's Qt-based GUI commands for bzr
[23:31] <dOxxx> quite nice to use
[23:32] <dOxxx> anyway if you're sure that you don't have another bzr command in progress on your local branch, you can try using `bzr break-lock` to force the lock to be released
[23:32] <gwal> so QBzr?
[23:32] <dOxxx> yeah that's the plugin
[23:33] <dOxxx> it's not really related to your problem though...
[23:33] <gwal> yea thanks though, I'll check it out
[23:33] <gwal> oh wait ... my bad I think
[23:34] <gwal> I had used bzr in the terminal on my local machine, then ssh'ed into the remote computer that I am trying to push from in the same window
[23:35] <gwal> "bzr break-lock ." on the remote machine should do the trick no?
[23:35] <gwal> I also closed the terminal (local computer) and opened a new one .. doesn't seem to work
[23:35] <dOxxx> only if you're sure you don't have another bzr process oeprating on that branch
[23:35] <gwal> i.e. doesn't seem to release the lock
[23:36] <gwal> ps aux | grep bzr doesn't give any process
[23:36] <dOxxx> try the push again
[23:36] <gwal> still complains about the lock
[23:37] <dOxxx> and break-lock does nothing?
[23:37] <gwal> doesn't seem to ... at least it doesn't acquire the lock for me
[23:38] <gwal> wait, do I need to say break-lock for the local branch or do I need to operate it on the remote location?
[23:39] <dOxxx> local
[23:39] <gwal> yea no, tried that
[23:39] <dOxxx> could you copy & paste the output of the push command?
[23:40] <gwal> bzr push
[23:40] <gwal> Using saved push location:
[23:40] <gwal> (... location ...)
[23:41] <gwal> Unable to obtain lock  held by (my name) at (my local computer's name), acquired 25 minutes ... ago
[23:41] <gwal> bzr: ERROR: Could not acquire lock "(local)":
[23:42] <dOxxx> and yet break-lock in that local branch directory does nothing?
[23:44] <gwal> no, I type in "bzr break-lock" in the local branche's directory, the terminal accepts it (no errors etc.) and I will get the same error message for my next attempt at bzr push
[23:44] <dOxxx> what URL transport are you using? bzr+ssh?
[23:45] <gwal> I indicate the remote location with sftp://
[23:45] <gwal> I'm not sure if that involves ssh?
[23:46] <dOxxx> similar but not quite the same
[23:46] <gwal> yea probably does eh?
[23:46] <gwal> ok
[23:47] <dOxxx> strange... okay, shot in the dark... try break-lock on the remote branch
[23:48] <gwal> ssh to the remote location and do break lock there or inside local branch do a bzr break-lock sftp://remote-loc
[23:48] <gwal> ?
[23:49] <dOxxx> ssh
[23:50] <gwal> it was 50/50 ... I tried the latter and that worked
[23:51] <dOxxx> so it actually found a lock?
[23:51] <gwal> yes it asked whether I wanted to break the lock of (my name) at my local computer
[23:51] <dOxxx> weird
[23:52] <dOxxx> ah I see
[23:52] <gwal> knowing nothing about bzr I can't gauge that really
[23:52] <gwal> so doing bzr push worked but it gave me all this info:
[23:53] <gwal> This transport does not update the working tree of: sftp://(remote loc) ... See 'bzr help working-trees' for more information. Pushed up to revision 5.
[23:53] <gwal> then doing bzr rspush also worked surprisingly
[23:53] <dOxxx> right...
[23:53] <gwal> what's this working trees business?
[23:54] <dOxxx> okay, so push will update the working tree of the remote branch to the revision you pushed up, but only if the protocol you use supports doing so
[23:54] <dOxxx> sftp doesn't
[23:54] <dOxxx> but bzr+ssh should
[23:54] <gwal> but why does it still say "pushing up rev 5"?
[23:55] <dOxxx> it's pushed new revisions into the repository in the remote branch
[23:55] <dOxxx> if you want the working tree in the remote branch to be updated as well, you will have to ssh and run bzr update
[23:57] <gwal> does that mean that if I were to ssh to the remote location and work on the local branch there then I would be modifying the old revision number 4? whereas if I go somewhere else and pull from the same remote location I would receive the updated revision number 5?
[23:58] <gwal> the latter seems to hold
[23:59] <dOxxx> the working tree would be at rev 4, so I'm not quite sure what would happen if you were to commit changes at that point.
[23:59] <dOxxx> it may give you an error
[23:59] <dOxxx> it may create a new rev 5 and the old rev 5 would be lost in the ether
[23:59] <dOxxx> otherwise known as a detached head, I think
[23:59] <dOxxx> it helps to think of these revisions as a directed acyclic graph


[03:53] <amithkk> So, Is the bot working well?
[17:55] <JanC> twobottux: I'd say it is possible, although a "Windows PC" doesn't really exist (every PC that runs Windows can also run Ubuntu, either natively or in a virtual machine)


[20:28] <TheSilentLink> Hi I when I press print screen nothing happens no sound and no screenshots in the picture folder. Anyone know why or where I can look to fix this? All my keybinds are default
[20:29] <fossfreedom> TheSilentLink, is this Ubuntu Budgie - or have you installed ubuntu + budgie-desktop ?
[20:29] <TheSilentLink> it's ubuntu budgie
[20:29] <TheSilentLink> 18.10
[20:29] <fossfreedom> You have reset all the keybindings ?
[20:30] <TheSilentLink> yep but that didn't fix ti
[20:30] <TheSilentLink> it*
[20:31] <fossfreedom> resetting the keybindings resets the custom keyboard shortcuts for running gnome-screenshot
[20:32] <TheSilentLink> I see at the bottom it says custom shortcuts and the screenshot one is disabled
[20:33] <TheSilentLink> If I try to add print screen key to the custom shortcut nothing happens I doesn't want to accept it
[20:34] <TheSilentLink> although the normal ones accept the print key
[20:35] <fossfreedom> yeah - you first have to remove the print screen keybinding under the screenshots section
[20:35] <fossfreedom> then you can set a custom keybinding for printscreen
[20:36] <TheSilentLink> thanks works now!
[20:36] <fossfreedom> yw