[17:42] <alberto_> BUT I CAN'T
[17:42] <FloodBot1> alberto_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:42] <TopGear> Hey
[17:42] <Spasysheep> alberto: YOU NEED TO STOP SHOUTING
[17:43] <sacarlson> ok I got to go to sleep,  thank you all for keeping it all alive, remember only people (you) make it happen by asking and telling and making the dream come true.
[17:43] <Mortal_> ah sorry RalphSpencer, I've gotta go now
[17:43] <Xfact> alberto_:  please don't shout, everybody here is for help, wait for your turn :)
[17:43] <alberto_> Sorry, but I'm desperate
[17:43] <TopGear> My upstart-manager won't work
[17:43] <RalphSpencer> Mortal_, now it says gdg in there
[17:43] <spatulacity> hey home come you assholes keep messing with the sound server every release
[17:44] <RalphSpencer> :(
[17:44] <guntbert> !ohmy | spatulacity
[17:44] <ejwaxx> 96kci2140
[17:44] <blakkheim> spatulacity: just use alsa
[17:44] <Abongile> Xfact: I think you're problem is similar to mine. What happens if you /etc.init.d/gdm stop and then startx?
[17:44] <Deathspike> Mortal_: This is still a no-go :(
[17:44] <rob_p> Deathspike: I'm guessing that since you manually removed some sym-links, the update-rc.d utility is throwing errors while attempting to operate on non-existant files.  By enabling first, the symlinks get re-created in all the default runlevels.  Then the disable command should work.
[17:45] <Diverdude> i have gcc version 4.4.1-4ubuntu8 installed. I am using a program which only supports gcc v. 4.2.0. Is it possible to have both compilers installed on the system simultaneously, so that i can have the old 4.2.0 and the new 4.4.1??
[17:45] <ejwaxx> dangit xchat, switching windows on me...time to select a new password :|
[17:45] <Xfact> serious problem :( after updating my karmic, when I am trying my PC it's opening as console...(not as gnome desktop)....When I am trying to start gdm, it saying 'cannot acquire <file/file>' etc.....what should I do?? :(
[17:45] <Deathspike> rob_p and mortal_ thanks for your help. I'll simply reinstall (it's a clean one anyhow) and work with that, it should work then according to the information given. Thanks again, have to run for a while!
[17:45] <acicula> Diverdude: yeah if they use different names for the binary
[17:45] <acicula> Diverdude: or you can put a custom gcc in /usr/local or your home directory etc
[17:45] <rob_p> Deathspike: Sounds a little drastic!
[17:45] <Diverdude> acicula, i see...how do i control that?
[17:45] <rob_p> Deathspike: ...but it's your call.  Good luck.
[17:45] <alberto_> Can anybody help me, please?
[17:46] <Diverdude> acicula, where does the standard gcc reside?
[17:46] <GNUtoo|oeee> hi,I've a jaunty based distro...how do I assign permanantly an ip to an interface
[17:46] <GNUtoo|oeee> ?
[17:46] <alberto_> I really need this to work.
[17:46] <Xfact> Abongile: I think the update process doing unexpected error with 'gnome display manager' so it's doing problem to start, and it's major issue I think....
[17:46] <acicula> Diverdude: the naming you dont control, if it comes in a deb,  but im gusesing just installing gcc-4.2 will work
[17:46] <GNUtoo|oeee> and strangely I keep killing nm-system-settings and it comes back
[17:46] <guntbert> Diverdude: but thats a strange thing - what gets broken in your proggy if you use 4.4.1 ?
[17:46] <Xfact>  alberto_: please repeat, what your question was....?
[17:46] <acicula> Diverdude: gcc-4.2 is in the repo, you just have to remember to use gcc-4.2 ratrher then gcc and such
[17:47] <acicula> Diverdude: or port your program
[17:47] <Hans_Henrik> isnt gcc 4.5 the latest release?
[17:47] <acicula> currently at 4.4
[17:47] <acicula> 4.5 might be the dev release
[17:47] <GNUtoo|oeee> I need to serve for nfsroot and the client reconfigure it's iface so...the jaunty-based one's iface go down too
[17:48] <Diverdude> guntbert, mexfiles in matlab
[17:48] <jellow> Anyone recomend a light image viewer that can open multipule .jpgs at same time?
[17:48] <Abongile> Xfact: So when you stop gdm and startx nothing happens, I used to be able to get into a standard gnome desktop, I can't now don't know what changed. Any progress on your part?
[17:48] <alberto_> Xfact I'm trying to record my guitar, which is plugged in Line Input. I can hear the sound, but whenever I use the Gnome recorder, it does not record anything.
[17:48] <Diverdude> guntbert, Warning: You are using gcc version "4.4.1-4ubuntu8)".  The earliest gcc version supported
[17:48] <Diverdude>          with mex is "4.0.0".  The latest version tested for use with mex is "4.2.0".
[17:48] <Diverdude>          To download a different version of gcc, visit http://gcc.gnu.org
[17:48] <alberto_> Nor Ardour.
[17:49] <llutz> jellow: display
[17:49] <alberto_> Xfact I also try to configure sound in System / Preferences / Sound
[17:49] <alberto_> But I don't know which capturing device to use.
[17:49] <Abongile> gunbert: so I can't downgrade not considered a option. So what do I do?
[17:49] <Xfact> Abongile: yes, when I am trying to start it, this time screen flickering 5-6 times, and after then the error message :(
[17:49] <guntbert> Diverdude: and they break ? - ah thats only a warning - you could still try to compile - or do as acicula said
[17:49] <alberto_> I try with all of them, but none of them works.
[17:50] <Diverdude> acicula, or is it possible to somehow make gcc 4.4.1 compile as a 4.2.0 with a specific flag?
[17:50] <Abongile> xfact: what's you error message?
[17:50] <GNUtoo|oeee> anyone?
[17:50] <Diverdude> guntbert, i have tried to compile, and when i run the mexfile i get an error
[17:50] <GNUtoo|oeee> where should I ask then?
[17:50] <tyro> anyone can tell me ,whats the time,now ,thx
[17:50] <Diverdude> guntbert, ??? Invalid MEX-file '/media/IMM/work/tools/matlab/BSDMSI/BSDReadHips.mexglx':
[17:50] <llutz> !time
[17:50] <alberto_> Xfact I have an embedded sound card.
[17:50] <jellow> llutz: its not in repositry know any more?
[17:51] <alberto_> HDA INTEL or something like that
[17:51] <llutz> jellow: it in imagemagick-package
[17:51] <sacarlson> Diverdude: I have had several gcc installed and just changed the sym link to provide what was needed >ln -s /path/old/you/want  /path/present/after/renam/
[17:51] <Xfact> alberto_: first assure that your guitar is being accepted by Ubuntu hardware... if it is then I think the problem is with your software, try something batter like, 'audacity'
[17:51] <Diverdude> ??? Invalid MEX-file '/media/IMM/work/tools/matlab/BSDMSI/BSDReadHips.mexglx':
[17:51] <acicula> Diverdude: dont think so, gotta install the old version, or just try with 4.4 and see if it works
[17:51] <kerem> slm
[17:52] <soopos> Is there any tool in apt-get like Fedora's grin?
[17:52] <llutz> soopos: which does what?
[17:52] <epinky> GNUtoo|oeee: is tftp concerned?
[17:52] <soopos> llutz: To grep source code
[17:52] <GNUtoo|oeee> epinky, no only nfsroot
[17:52] <marcio_> hi all
[17:52] <llutz> soopos: just grep?
[17:53] <soopos> llutz: Likely,
[17:53] <Xfact> Abongile:  oops! the error message was big...I don't remember it correctly but it was like 'problem aquireing *some gdm related files* etc...'
[17:53] <GNUtoo|oeee> epinky, basically the device boot the kernel from micro-sdcard,and then dhcpcd and then nfsroot
[17:53] <Xfact> Abongile: anything else there?
[17:53] <epinky> GNUtoo|oeee: so you mean NFS server?
[17:53] <alberto_> Xfact My guitar, just like every guitar, used to work in Jaunty
[17:53] <soopos> llutz: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg00133.html
[17:53] <Abongile> xfact: I get an xuath erro message, Iast saw this when I was trying KDE out. The system building new xuath file seems to just hang a little and then back to the bash prompt no chnage.
[17:53] <alberto_> Xfact I cannot record Microphone INput either.
[17:53] <GNUtoo|oeee> epinky, yes the jaunty-based computer does nfs server
[17:53] <kab> why OpenOffice 3.1 is too slow to save documents on 9.10?
[17:53] <Xfact> alberto_: are you first time having problem on you junty?
[17:54] <GNUtoo|oeee> epinky, only that during the reconfiguration the link goes down and so the server's card interface goes down too
[17:54] <spatulacity> FACT: this is what a typical ubuntu release planning looks like http://www.queerclick.com/images/sc_blowing%20brody.jpg
[17:54] <pea[PC]> if you install unbuntu with an os already on the drive what happens? does it get overwritten? does it make it's own partition?
[17:54] <alberto_> Xfact The biggest mistake I made was updating to karmic
[17:54] <jellow> llutz: thanks was alreadt installed did not notice
[17:55] <protojay> spatulacity, your an idiot
[17:55] <bishop> joining
[17:55] <alberto_> Xfact After trying karmic and finding out it gave me a lot of problems, I had to go back to Jaunty.
[17:55] <Xfact> Abongile: well, but I ma just 1 and half week old in linux, so not much knowledge about it, but if you know any way to solve it then inform me...
[17:55] <pea[PC]> i installed ubuntu over xp, restarted and xp loaded o.O
[17:55] <alberto_> Xfact Jaunty used to record my guitar and microphone input without any problems.
[17:55] <epinky> GNUtoo|oeee: ok, I'm not a nfsroot expert, you can always ask on #ubuntu-server channel
[17:55] <macman_> pea[PC]: reinstall grub
[17:56] <GNUtoo|oeee> ok thanks
[17:56] <guiscard> how do I transfer files to network?
[17:56] <alberto_> Xfact Now it gives me problems.
[17:56] <soreau> pea[PC]: What were you expecting to happen?
[17:56] <tjohnt> Hey guys. I need a little help. Im running ubuntu and im trying to create a custom live cd with remastersys that keeps my firefox settings and extensions. the problem is since my .mozilla directory is in my home folder it isnt backed up by remastersys. I would like to know if its possible to change the location of this ./mozilla directory in the about:config or somehow elese. Thanks so much.
[17:56] <pea[PC]> macman_, there was no ubuntu partition
[17:56] <guntbert> Diverdude: I see  - I lost the connection  - are you all set by now?
[17:56] <pea[PC]> only an xp partition
[17:56] <macman_> 0_o
[17:56] <alberto_> Xfact It causes me headache
[17:56] <pea[PC]> very confused
[17:56] <pea[PC]> i installed stuff on ubuntu, it wasn't a live cd
[17:56] <Hans_Henrik> if i got a PC with WinXP installed, and i start it from a ubuntu-livecd, makes a compressed archive of the entire XP harddrive partition, if i wanted the entire pc back to the point i did that archive, would it just be to format the harddrive back to the original filesystem and extract the files from the archive?
[17:57] <soreau> pea[PC]: If you used the entire disk to install xp, simply install ubuntu and look for the option to let it automatically partition the drives
[17:57] <Xfact> alberto_:  ooh! You upgraded to karmic, Karmic still having some probs people saying so I would not say it's totally 'stable release' and second, fresh installation is much batter then upgradation, as you can see I am also having problem with upgrade....
[17:57] <soreau> pea[PC]: It should shrink the xp partition and install ubuntu alongside it, then install grub and allow you to select which to load at boot time
[17:58] <Abongile> Xfact: Are you using a straight Ubuntu or derivative (Mythbuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, etc)? I'm thinking if it's not mythbuntu which I have nightmares with at the moment how about: apt-get remove gdm, apt-get remove xserver-xorg and the reinstall perhaps going for something apt-get instrall gnome-desktop (that comes with a lot of other apps which mythbuntu does not need.) I am a newbie as well but trying to learn with help of these people.
[17:58] <alberto_> Xfact I had problems both with fresh installation and upgrading.
[17:58] <pea[PC]> read what i said though, ubuntu didn't have it's own aprtition
[17:58] <totallynotcool> Is there any hope for audio applications not running like crap when they're running in a virtualized environment?
[17:58] <soreau> pea[PC]: Read what I said. You need to install ubuntu again
[17:58] <alberto_> Xfact Karmic sucks.
[17:58] <soreau> ! who | pea[PC]
[17:58] <alberto_> Xfact So Jaunty does.
[17:58] <pea[PC]> i'm not
[17:59] <alberto_> As it does not work properly either.
[17:59] <alberto_> It's too difficult to make something work.
[17:59] <pea[PC]> i can't help it if people jump into the conversation half way through and get upset that they didn't read my origenal question
[17:59] <alberto_> Too many sound servers.
[17:59] <alberto_> PulseAudio?
[17:59] <Xfact> Abongile: yes...'apt-get remove gdm' can be a helpful way! thanks
[17:59] <tjohnt> Hey guys. I need a little help. Im running ubuntu and im trying to create a custom live cd with remastersys that keeps my firefox settings and extensions. the problem is since my .mozilla directory is in my home folder it isnt backed up by remastersys. I would like to know if its possible to change the location of this ./mozilla directory in the about:config or somehow elese. Thanks so much.
[17:59] <alberto_> ALSA?
[17:59] <alberto_> HDA INTEL?
[17:59] <FloodBot1> alberto_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <Pixar> Hi, is there any command in the terminal so I can see all connected ips or something ? I need to find out the ip of the person i'm chatting on Pidgin. I was able to do that on windows in CMD with some command, it used to display IP:some specific messenger port
[18:00] <blakkheim> Pixar: netstat
[18:00] <soreau> pea[PC]: We can't help it if you are making comments that aren't directed to anyone and aren't listening to what the people trying to help you are saying
[18:00] <Pixar> yes it was netstat -m i think
[18:00] <Pixar> so it works on ubuntu too
[18:00] <benpro> plop
[18:00] <Xfact> Abongile:  I am using Ubuntu only and first removing gdm completely and then again installing by 'apt-get install gdm' can help...to solve this prob, what you think?
[18:00] <Losha> Hans_Henrik: in theory, yes. It depends on how you did the backup. There are backup backup packages that specialize in making 'bare metal restores' to do exactly what you describe e.g. http://www.mondorescue.org/about.shtml. Disclaimer, I have not used any of them
[18:01] <soreau> Xfact: Reinstalling gdm wont help anything if it's the same version.. what's the problem you're having exactly?
[18:02] <Guest68749> hey guys!! i been having problems with my wireless connection. the connection drops every once in a while and unable to reconnect. i dont see this happening on win 7 but only on ubuntu 9.10. it never occured to me in 9.04
[18:02] <Guest68749> why? pourquoi?
[18:03] <Xfact>  soreau:  I haven't tried reinstalling it yet ,and the problem was after updating karmic softs unexpectedly it blocked my gdm... it's i think will be solved after simple remove and reinstall of gdm....
[18:03] <totallynotcool> bonbon
[18:03] <soreau> Xfact: What do you mean it blocks gdm?
[18:03] <Abongile> Xfact: give it a short a let me know what happens. I guess my problem is little involved then though I should expect that the experienced users should have a solution but still waiting. My issue is I can remove and reinstall gdm and the xserver but that solve my problem as I think there are some unique linkages to the Xfce desktop mythbuntu uses and it not being initialised.
[18:04] <Killy> cosa?
[18:04] <Xfact> alberto_:  I am new to jaunty and karmic so till researching on it...and audio section has lots of probs like it's also not taking my sub woofer :(, so good luck with your tries...I hope it'll solve soon and Karmic half sucks!:-/
[18:04] <Killy> come faccio a installare msn su ubuntu 8.10??
[18:04] <taisa> hello, could someone pls help me with my xserver?
[18:04] <taisa> After normal GDM Login, no Panels, only xterm konsole; typing "startx" in root rescue konsole boots in Gnome normally.
[18:04] <taisa> Settings: Intel GMA 4500HD, backported software karmic used, after kernel upgrade to 2.31.17 occurs this problem. thx.
[18:04] <RalphSpencer> how to check if 3d graphics acceleration is enabled>
[18:05] <TidyBhoy> hey.. so in rhythembox when i drag a music file from music to my ipod it says Permission Denied... any1 got a quick fix for that? :S
[18:05] <jellow> TidyBhoy: gksudo rythembox
[18:05] <Xfact> soreau:  gdm is not opening after update means something during the update blocked  gdm...
[18:06] <TidyBhoy> that the only way? ill have to open it like that everytime ?
[18:06] <mediaprodigy> ok must go..
[18:07] <jellow> TidyBhoy: Well you could try sudo chown -R username:username /media/path/to/ipod
[18:07] <ChinoChano> hi guys! i had a proble? yesterday after an upgrade 9.04 -> 9.10
[18:07] <ChinoChano> now, i can finally log in my session, but NO gnome panels, no app menus, nothing
[18:07] <jellow> TidyBhoy: Your ipod is being mounted as read only
[18:08] <jon_high9000> hello. I am trying to setup my Linksys WUSB54GC Ver.#3 for use with ubuntu 9.10. anybody have any helpful tips on getting it to work?
[18:08] <Xfact> Abongile: well, I ma worried about it, you can see in grub menu that it gives two option like e.g 'Ubuntu 9.10 karmic 2.0.45' with it's recovery version and 'Ubuntu karmic 2.0.42' with it's recovery version...the first one is already blocked so I ma using second one to access, if the gdm re-installation blocks the whole...then it'll be a mess up! so I am little worried... :(
[18:08] <ChinoChano> bastid_raZor, are you there?
[18:09] <jokuil> upgrade windows shows wrong version when upgrading to 10.04, didnt succeed to file a bug report. http://imgur.com/FmNcb
[18:09] <TidyBhoy> well if i put rhythembox in startup programs jellow... can i put in a line to make it launch with gksudo? or can i mount it as write as well?
[18:09] <jokuil> (shows 9.10)
[18:10] <Xfact> abongile: (above versions were just example....)
[18:10] <tjohnt> Hey guys is there a way to open and edit files inside a .squashfs file? thanks
[18:10] <ChinoChano> QUESTION: gnome-panel says SHARED libraries missing. I have to rebuild links or libraries i guess. What is the commmand?
[18:10] <RalphSpencer> how to check if 3d graphics acceleration is enabled>
[18:10] <Aled> Guys
[18:10] <jellow> TidyBhoy: Try to chown it first then you won't need to run rythmbox as root , as its not recommened but is easiest solution
[18:11] <Aled> Can I dual boot Server Ubuntu without partitioning
[18:11] <Aled> Like I can with Ubuntu Desktop
[18:11] <Xfact> ????
[18:11] <morphias> ok that was wierd.  does anyone know if the WLAN drivers of Intel 4965 are buggy?
[18:11] <Xfact> I am feeling so alone in his version :(
[18:11] <llutz> RalphSpencer: glxinfo|grep -i dri
[18:11] <Xfact> in this version :(
[18:11] <TidyBhoy> chown? sorry jellow only been linux about a week =D
[18:11] <morphias> it just locked up all my network applications and then , instead of crashing them all, the i lost internet connection
[18:11] <jokuil> morphias: yes they are. problems with power saving
[18:11] <llutz> RalphSpencer: or: glxinfo|grep -i direct
[18:12] <morphias> jokuil, how do i reset the drivers without rebooting?
[18:12] <Deathspike> rob_p and mortal_ I hope you're still here :D I reinstalled the machine and did update-rc.d -f gdm remove, but it STILL boots.  Ideas?
[18:12] <jokuil> morphias: works fairly well with 9.10 but i had a lot of problems before
[18:12] <ChinoChano> is there a way to rebuild libraries or broken deps?
[18:13] <Narc> Hello folks. I need someone's help to figure out why my left click is behaving strangely (when it's behaving at all) since I updated Karmic a week or so ago. When the bug appears, I can't click any button or focus or close windows, right click is not responding too. I tried to set the X server to defaults, turned Compiz and Gnome-Do off, but nothing works. Xev is not registering any event from the mouse. I figured the problem appears
[18:13] <Narc>  depending on which program I open first but it's quite random. Mouse works on other OS. Thanks a lot.
[18:13] <RalphSpencer> root@endeavour:~# glxinfo|grep -i dri
[18:13] <RalphSpencer> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915G GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3
[18:13] <morphias> i was logginig how many times it did this, and this is the 4th time.  now im brining it up becuase my router/wireless didn't drop (checked logs)
[18:13] <thales_vaz> hi, i trying to perform  the alternate cd install from a pen drive... is that possible?
[18:13] <jellow> TidyBhoy: no worries , being vague , In terminal , run sudo fdisk -l and copy paste what you get to http://pastebin.com/
[18:13] <RalphSpencer> root@endeavour:~# glxinfo|grep -i direct
[18:13] <RalphSpencer> direct rendering: Yes
[18:13] <RalphSpencer> so it is enabled?
[18:13] <morphias> jokuil, is there a way to force a reload of the wireless driver?
[18:13] <Abongile> Xfact: I think you are talking about grup the bootloader. The first option is to boot normally into your installation the second is for administrative task hence recovery, you don't get a full x-session (graphical) display in the second cause a lot of apps and services are not initialised but you'll have a terminal for your admin tasks, you have netroot terminal (terminal with networking) so you can do some updates and installations as w
[18:13] <jokuil> morphias: you can fix it temporary by unloading and reloading the modules but i didnt get it to work well without using the correct kernel
[18:13] <morphias> because tick marking disable/enable doesn't cut it.
[18:13] <llutz> RalphSpencer: yes
[18:14] <Aled> Can I use Wubi with Ubuntu Server?
[18:14] <jellow> TidyBhoy: This will tell me where your usb is mounted
[18:14] <Abongile> Xfact: So if your worry is with gurb, check for some threads on howto upgrade grub.
[18:14] <jiohdi> Aled: wubi only has a specific number of distros it can install
[18:14] <flossk> Hi im having a problem with hamachi in ubuntu im trying to connect to a machine
[18:14] <jokuil> morphias maybe, you can try rmmod <module name> / modprobe <module name>
[18:14] <llutz> TidyBhoy: since your ipod won't have a unix-fs on it, forget chown. it won't work
[18:14] <flossk> Destination Host Unreachable
[18:14] <Pure> How much memory does 9.1 need?
[18:15] <jaiho> is there a way to show how much battery power is remaining on Karmic?
[18:15] <flossk> Hi im having a problem with hamachi in ubuntu im trying to connect to a machine
[18:15] <flossk> Destination Host Unreachable
[18:15] <Abongile> xfact: you can say that again, really alone.
[18:15] <jokuil> morphias what kernel / version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:15] <bishop> leaving
[18:15] <jellow> TidyBhoy: listen tow hat llutz has to say i was wrong
[18:15] <Xfact> Abongile:  no no I am talking about the second normal version option it shows that one, not the recovery, and I ma chatting and watching youtube vids here, so I really don't think it's that mode you are talking....
[18:15] <elf_lord_ZC5> quit
[18:16] <morphias> jokuil, 2.6.31-17
[18:16] <Xfact> abongile: yes...and about to be lost :(
[18:16] <TopGear> Help......!
[18:16] <TopGear> I can't run upstartmanager!
[18:16] <Abongile> xfact: sorry that GRUB, the bootloader.
[18:16] <Hydrosis> When I try to play games, the audio starts to crackles and then dies.  This is not always the case, sometimes it works fine.  Why doesnt sound work properly for game roms anymore?
[18:16] <Pure> How much memory is need to run ubuntu 9.10?
[18:17] <TopGear> when I open it, I get a bar that goes left to right, it closes, and nothing happens
[18:17] <jokuil> morphias, is a recuring problem or is it just this once
[18:17] <morphias> i kept logging these in a file, this is the forth one, been trying to find a dump file somewhere tho
[18:18] <Hydrosis> HELP! When I try to play games, the audio starts to crackle and then dies.   This is not always the case, sometimes it works fine.  Why doesn't sound work properly for game roms anymore?
[18:18] <manish_> Can anyone help on Domain controller setup with Ubuntu server 9.10 here?
[18:18] <Xfact> Abongile: yes...but bootloder is not the main issue here, the blockage in OS loading I think...and how to solve it...I've got an idea to reinstall gdm but also in doubt about it's future :(
[18:18] <guiscard> Hydrosis, same here
[18:18] <Abongile> xfact: when you bootup, grub does a countdown, pushing escape before zero will give you the option to boot normally i.e. first option or select recovery for your current kernel.
[18:19] <maverick_> Hydrosis: aah..this was one of the biggest problems for me..for this you have to upgrade the alsa version
[18:19] <TopGear> pop from the speakers?
[18:19] <Hydrosis> guiscard: have you found a fix?  This is retarded.
[18:19] <maverick_> Hydrosis: to 1.0.22 :D..i got it solved just yesterday
[18:19] <kitche> !repeat > Hydrosis
[18:19] <Hydrosis> maverick_ how do I do that
[18:20] <epinky> pure: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[18:20] <jokuil> morphias i used to have a lot of problems with that card but now it works very well for me. not perfect but almost
[18:20] <Xfact>  Abongile: yes...but I don't know it's normal or not but in my pc it's giving two normal and two recovery options....first pair totally blocked so using second pair....on
[18:20] <Hydrosis> How do I update ALSA if Im not even sure that I have ALSA?
[18:20] <Pure> Were running it in VirtualPC, what settings should I use, it's got way more than 64
[18:20] <Sabir> I need help with sound via the HDMI interface card nvidia GT220
[18:20] <Sabir>  In alsa-mixer when you press F6, I can select the sound card NVidia, but I get a message that no device controls
[18:21] <maverick_> Hydrosis: go to this site http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page, download alsa-utils,  alsa-driver and alsa-lib and install them using make..it is not in the repositories
[18:21] <guiscard> Hydrosis, no, it used to work properly with games suddenly the sound started to malfunction
[18:21] <guiscard> don't know why
[18:21] <morphias> jokuil, have you ever figured out where iwlagn would store its dump logs?
[18:21] <Hans_Henrik> som1 told me i could do "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/usr/me/backup.img then dd if=/usr/me/backup.img of=/dev/hda1" to make a backup of a partition and restore it again.. 1: true?  2: if so, would it work on NTFS/FAT32?
[18:21] <epinky> !anyone | manish_
[18:21] <maverick_> Hydrosis: Alsa 1.0.21 was not included in Karmic because it released late, and it was in the alpha stages..
[18:22] <Xfact> everyone: it's showing compiz installed in my pc but not listed in either preference or admin menu...how to access it? (ubuntu karmic)
[18:22] <TidyBhoy> thanks anyway jellow... gotta run.. ill be back tomorrow ;P
[18:22] <Hydrosis> maverick_: so, how do I install this stuff?  I come from a world where computers should be easy to use...
[18:22] <scott_ino2> does anyone know if mediabuntu got rid of skype in their package set?
[18:22] <Abongile> The worst that I can see heppening with reinstalling gdm is as soreous said "nothing" i.e. on reinstalling it picks up exactly where it left off errors and all nothing beaking your system to bits or anything like that.  I think if I were running a standard ubuntu install that problem should solve my problems. Cause though I get gdm back it is the init scripts from loggin to launch desktop that are not talking properly at least that's wha
[18:22] <himanshu_> i don't know why but some how the audio of my system goes off . i try out play any of the song with vlc or exaile , but audio sounds remains a mute , it comes back only when i restart my system
[18:22] <jokuil> morphias nothing more than i could se with 'dmesg', you can increase the verbosity when you load the module
[18:23] <Sabir> I have: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version <IP_ADDRESS>.0.g2d697.0.g88788.
[18:23] <guiscard> Hydrosis, first you extract the files with tar xvf or tar xzvf depends on the format they are compressed
[18:23] <Hydrosis> guiscard: In english, please.
[18:23] <Abongile> xfact: what does blocked mean? What happens when you select those options? The latest kernel is usually on top of the list.
[18:23] <Xfact>  Abongile:  means the plan of reinstalling gdm wasn't useful :(
[18:23] <guntbert> !compile | Hydrosis have you seen
[18:24] <TopGear> http://paste.ubuntu.com/353049/
[18:24] <alokito> Xfact, did you install compizconfig-settings-manager?
[18:24] <himanshu_> can you tell me how to play flv files , many of many downloaded flv players from youtube does not run in ubuntu.  i tried out vlc
[18:24] <alberto> I turn the Line Input volume up and down sliding the CD volume control...!
[18:24] <manish_> ubottu, sorry for that, I have Win2k based Domain Controllers on LAN. Want to replace them with Ubuntu server 9.10. I want to know how to go about this
[18:24] <epinky> scott_ino2: afaik no
[18:24] <alokito> Xfact, what do u mean by "I can't access them"?
[18:24] <alberto> How come is this?
[18:24] <Xfact> ) Abongile: yes the latest kernel option is not working for gdm startup problem (and I am calling it blocked) and the second one i ok and I am now running it
[18:25] <scott_ino2> epinky, hmmm somethings going on then
[18:25] <scott_ino2> ty
[18:25] <Hydrosis> holy crap, are you telling me I need to read 20 manulas, learn a new language and slave in a terminal for days on end just to get sound working for a NES game?  This is insane.  Why bother even releasing broken software to the world?
[18:25] <ejwaxx> Hans_Henrik: that should work fine.  Always use "dd" with the utmost caution though...really efficient way to irrevocably muck things up if not done right
[18:25] <Abongile> xfact: so you're in with an earlier kernel version?
[18:25] <blakkheim> Hydrosis: lol
[18:25] <guntbert> !attitude | Hydrosis
[18:25] <maverick_> Hydrosis: there?
[18:26] <scott_ino2> ejwaxx, just recently wrote over an entire drive with dd ;)
[18:26] <Xfact> alokito:  yes it's showing installed in synaptic but not listed to click and access, so how to access it remote Way? (I mean by running any command or something...)
[18:26] <maverick_> Hydrosis: go to this site http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page, download alsa-utils,  alsa-driver and alsa-lib and install them using make..it is not in the repositories..sorry I got timed out
[18:26] <guiscard> Hydrosis, there's a easier way
[18:26] <alberto> I hate Ubuntu
[18:26] <alberto> IT SUCKS
[18:26] <FloodBot1> alberto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:26] <guiscard> read the INSTALL document
[18:26] <Xfact> Abongile: running on old kernel version does matter?
[18:26] <alberto> AND NOBODY ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS
[18:26] <ejwaxx> scott_ino2, as have i...of course i was aiming to zero it out :)
[18:26] <alberto> I HATE THIS CHANNEL
[18:26] <Hans_Henrik> can i mount a .img file created by "dd"?
[18:27] <llutz> alberto: Please take your <°)))o>< and troll away.
[18:27] <tjohnt> Hey guys is there a way to open and edit files inside a .squashfs file? thanks
[18:27] <soreau> Xfact: In case you didn't get an answer to your question, sys>prefs>appearance>Visual Effects <-- set to anything other than None will start compiz and make it the default
[18:27] <alokito> Xfact, u mean "activate"? if so then you need to have graphics card driver and then you can run "compiz -replace" from alt+f2 window
[18:27] <scott_ino2> Hans_Henrik, yes should mount just like any other image
[18:27] <MerlinW> Hydrosis, install gfceu
[18:27] <belli> ima li nasih ovde?
[18:27] <scott_ino2> Hans_Henrik, and give you the list of folders/data etc..
[18:27] <MerlinW> its a NES emu
[18:27] <Hans_Henrik> i have never mounted a .img before.. how do i do that?
[18:27] <Hydrosis> MerlinW: I have it already.  Thats what im trying to fix.  Why would I need to reinstall it/?
[18:27] <alberto> Thank you for your help
[18:27] <MerlinW> sry, i just arrived :D
[18:28] <belli> ima li nasih ovde?
[18:28] <MerlinW> Hydrosis, and nestra ?
[18:28] <alokito> Xfact, and you can control and configure plugins from compizconfig-settings-manager, it's not installed by default(afaik) so you should install that too(sudo apt-get ....)
[18:28] <MerlinW> super nintendo not good?
[18:28] <guntbert> !hr | belli
[18:28] <Abongile> Xfact: No it doesn't, the experienced gusy will say something about security updates and the later kernel is supposed to be more secure but you can do pretty much everything you need to with an older kernel. And if an app requires the later kernel it will say so, or least in my short time with the OS that's what I have noticed.
[18:28] <dfrank> dear All, how can i make GNU screen sourcing /etc/profile.d/* at every new window create?
[18:28] <Hans_Henrik> if i have mounted a .img file as a partition, can i add/delete files from the img file and save it?
[18:28] <MerlinW> snes9x is working
[18:29] <maverick_> Hydrosis: Did you get it sorted out?
[18:29] <MerlinW> Hydrosis,  maybe from getdeb or medibuntu repos
[18:29] <Hydrosis> MerlinW: We're talking about SOUND problems, not game emulators.
[18:29] <alokito> Abongile, I don't think compiz "directly" depends on kernel
[18:29] <Xfact> Abongile: yes All I need the setting manager...thanks :)
[18:29] <MerlinW> ahh
[18:29] <ejwaxx> Hans_Henrik: i'm experimenting with it right now, let you know in a few minutes if no one gets back to you
[18:29] <Hydrosis> maverick_: hell no.  I got those files and have no idea how to install them.  They are saved on my desktop.  This is retardedly hard.
[18:30] <alokito> Abongile, the graphics card driver(which compiz needs to function) requires kernel compilation
[18:30] <maverick_> Hydrosis: no, its not as hard as you think, extract the three files first
[18:30] <guiscard> Hydrosis, read the INSTALL document it goes straight to the point
[18:30] <Sabir> Among those present are the owners of video cards nvidia GT2xx, using HDMI output? How did you do to work the sound through HDMI?
[18:30] <Xfact>  alokito: Abongile is not talking about compiz...we are discussing on gdm problem :(
[18:30] <Trizicus> what is the software in linux that allows me to burn an iso to USB drive and it becomes bootable?   You need to be specific, there are 50 things you guys just told me to read.
[18:31] <alokito> Xfact, hmm, then whats the settings manager for? :-/
[18:31] <alokito> Xfact, gnome configuration editor?
[18:31] <Hans_Henrik> Trizicus: can try unetbootin
[18:31] <maverick_> Hydrosis: Then go to each folder using the terminal and run ./configure, make and make install
[18:31] <Xfact> alokito:  our gdm is not loading on start up....
[18:31] <ejwaxx> trizicus: unetbootin?
[18:31] <guntbert> Hydrosis: please stay polite - if *you* don't understand something - no need to use derogative terms
[18:31] <Trizicus> Hans_HenriK: Thanks :D
[18:31] <alokito> Xfact, and how's that related with compiz?
[18:31] <Xfact> alokito:  no i think gnome display manager
[18:31] <Trizicus> ejwaxx: Thanks
[18:32] <Hydrosis> guntbert: what derogatory terms are you talking about?  pffft.
[18:32] <Phil_Ewert> Hello together, can anybody recommend me a screencast-recording tool, that actually works for him ?
[18:32] <Abongile> alokito: would you have nay advise for someone who can't loggin into their system? I can't loggin, I loggin and the loggin screen just returns. I have seem something about building a new xauth file in term when I stop gdm and try to startx, can you help?
[18:32] <alokito> Xfact, ok...
[18:32] <Xfact> alokito:  no no...that was another totally not related question to you about compiz....the gdm topic was going on with him....
[18:32] <guntbert> Hydrosis: read back - I'm not going to repeat your statements
[18:32] <alokito> Abongile, maybe your graphics driver is not functioning
[18:33] <Hydrosis> guntbert: you seem to  have a different understanding of what constitues derogatory.  Perhaps you shoudl google the word.
[18:33] <alokito> Abongile, there was a handy xfix menu in ubuntu recovery mode but it's now gone in karmic :(
[18:33] <guntbert> Hydrosis: just drop it - and please stay calm
[18:34] <Abongile> Xfact: Glad I could help ease the pain. Synaptic will inform of you updates and untill you figure out what about your system does not like the newer kernel uncheck the kernel updates in the update manager. Cheers!!
[18:34] <Hydrosis> guntbert: please do not center me out without explaining why.  Poor social skills you got there, mate.
[18:35] <ejwaxx> ok Hans_Henrik, i have an answer for you: yes, you can mount the image you make with dd, you just need to specify "-o loop" as a parameter
[18:35] <Xfact> Abongile: thanks
[18:35] <Hans_Henrik> and add/remove files from it?
[18:35] <ejwaxx> and yes, any changes you make while it is mounted will be saved to the image
[18:35] <Hydrosis> maverick_: big thanks for your help.  I think I got it working.  Need to double check.
[18:36] <Hans_Henrik> ejwaxx: yay! thanks
[18:36] <dfrank> dear All, how can i make GNU screen sourcing /etc/profile.d/* at every new window create?
[18:36] <Deathspike> Help, how can I disable GNOME from starting on boot? Ubuntu Server. I disabled it via any way I know, run level, update-rc.d and service stop. What did I miss?
[18:36] <maverick_> Hydrosis: i got this heavy lag..problems with my ISP..great that you got it sorted out
[18:37] <Abongile> alokito: Why do you suspect the graphics card? It's a loggin problem if I can see a loggin screen then the graphics card is doing it's job right?
[18:37] <alokito> Abongile, not always, but sometimes its graphics card "driver" problem, not the card itself :)
[18:38] <Abongile> aloito: yeah there was and dpkg-reconfigire-xserver-xorg does seem to help at all. Nor dpkg-reconfigure-a. Any ideas?
[18:38] <JuJuBee_> can I copy /usr/share/fonts/truetype to another computer if I want to use them?
[18:39] <macman_> is there  a way to compoile dvdauthor in ubunutu .. reason why im askig this is because it always segfaults on me
[18:39] <Bonster> yup
[18:39] <Enigmator> Abongile not sure if it is related but does your .ICEauthority have the good read/write permission and the good owner?
[18:40] <Abongile> xfact: cool:)
[18:40] <xoom> hi! Need a helping hand in installing Ubuntu
[18:40] <guntbert> !compile | macman_ but you sholud report a bug
[18:40] <Abongile> alokito: I have nvidia drivers
[18:40] <guntbert> !bug | macman_
[18:40] <Xfact> Abongile: well, one final asking...I am going to reinstall gdm, maybe my pc can do something good! but if nothing happen that's ok but if there any chance of happening something bitter...then please warn me...
[18:40] <inoh> what is the difference between generic and generic-pae kernel?
[18:41] <totallynotcool> Pie
[18:41] <acicula> it includes pae support
[18:41] <blakkheim> inoh: pae  can address 4gb+ of ram on 32bit
[18:41] <alokito> Abongile, did you install the driver from repo or did you manually install the "official Nvidia  driver for Linux"?
[18:41] <alokito> Abongile, from ubuntu* repo
[18:42] <xoom> I start from a LiveCD and when I run install, it detects just a USB-connected drive, not an internal one. But when I load Ubuntu from CD, it detects internal HD and can easily mount all partitions on it. What can be the problem?
[18:43] <Xfact> any suggestions? :-/
[18:43] <guntbert> xoom: there seems to be a misunderstanding. What is the difference beween "start from a LiveCD" and "load Ubuntu from CD"?
[18:43] <MerlinW> woah 8.12 Ati CCC has adaptive AA and Catalyst AI
[18:43] <MerlinW> finally:D
[18:44] <JenniferB> how do I change the password ? pwd ?
[18:44] <MerlinW> passwd
[18:44] <acicula> mind you if you have an encrypted home thats not a good idea
[18:44] <guntbert> JenniferB: system/preferences/about me
[18:44] <Xfact> everyone: does anyone think that reinstalling gdm can cause problem in Ubuntu?
[18:45] <acicula> guntbert: does that one also update the loginpassphrase for the home encryption key?
[18:45] <MerlinW> Xfact, no
[18:45] <alokito> Xfact, it shouldn't
[18:45] <guntbert> acicula: are you referring to Shwack's problem? did he finally get it sorted?
[18:46] <acicula> guntbert: no referring to JenniferB's question and your answer
[18:46] <Xfact> and does anyone also think reinstalling gdm can solve any problem related to gdm or it'll remain same until I ma reputing more files with it....
[18:46] <acicula> the password is linked to the encryption key afaik?
[18:46] <twocarlo> ubuntu still the reigning king of desktop linux ;is there other linux you think that can beat that
[18:46] <Abongile> xfact: I can assure you, that I can fathom anything nasty, there worst is being back where you started. stop gdm /etc/init.d/gdm stop, I just removed and not purged sudo apt-get remove gdm, if you choose to reboot you machine should complain with some loud short beeps  and then long as it is shutting down, when you get back in you'll be taken to the terminal loggin prompt, loggin and apt-get install gdm, reboot, sudo apt-get update, sudo
[18:46] <acicula> so if you just change the passwd you cant unwrap your key and access your encrypted home
[18:47] <Deathspike> How is GNOME started? I disabled it everywhere. Any clues?
[18:47] <Abongile> alokito: from the repo
[18:47] <wrapster> I have a very basic que...
[18:47] <wrapster> soon after installation if i run apt-get -f install i see a whole bunch of pkgs to be installed/removed/ upgraded or whatever.. then if i do apt-get update && apt-get -f install i see only a few pkgs that are to be newly installed.
[18:47] <wrapster> what does this mean?
[18:47] <wrapster> im new to this...:
[18:47] <FloodBot1> wrapster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:47] <xoom> No, it's all the same - I boot from the LiveCD and run install. It doesn't detect the SATA HD - only USB one. I then continue to boot from this CD and then Ubuntu detects both USB and SATA drive. I then run install once again from loaded Ubuntu and happens the same thing - only USB HD is available to install. But SATA drive does have a Linux partitions on it, along with NTFS and I was able to install SUSE on it.
[18:47] <cemc> what's a basic command line stream player in ubuntu? (which handles mp3 streams)
[18:47] <OerHeks> Deathspike  where did you disable gnome ?
[18:48] <acicula> cemc: mplayer pretty much plays anything
[18:48] <alokito> Abongile, hmm then it shouldn't be driver related. as repo driver is automatically compiled into new kernels
[18:48] <Doonz> hey guys how can i stop ubuntu desktop from booting upto a desktop. just have the computer reboot only to a shell
[18:48] <Xfact> well I am going to do something gdm...privately! Wish me luck :) bye
[18:48] <cemc> acicula: more basic than mplayer :)
[18:48] <OerHeks> Deathspike gnome is automatic started as part of ubuntu-desktop
[18:48] <wrapster> guys any one pls help
[18:48] <Deathspike> OerHeks: Disabled it in run levels (sysv-rc-conf), services (service stop gdm) and via update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[18:48] <tyger> Hi, does anybody know how to measure usb-mouse pooling rate?
[18:48] <Deathspike> It still boots.
[18:49] <guntbert> acicula: I only wanted to show a GUI way too
[18:49] <OerHeks> Deathspike normally, i suggest you install KDE, then remove ubuntu ( gnome ) from software
[18:49] <MerlinW> cemc, audacious2
[18:49] <sayantan> hi
[18:49] <Abongile> xfact: have no fear and be prepared to break things as you learn, at least that's my attitude it only gets plainful when you stuff a crucual machine like me. My media centre is down which means no TV, Movies or Music for the entire household. It's pain but it's worth remembring that open source is learning game, expect to break things or for things not to work as "advertised" without some effort on your part.
[18:50] <Deathspike> OerHeks: I have Ubuntu Server installed since it is a server. It just persist in booting my added GNOME :\
[18:50] <JenniferB> guntbert: what was that?
[18:51] <wrapster> anyone here?
[18:51] <sayantan> exit
[18:51] <sayantan> experimenting with irssi
[18:52] <Pici> wrapster: I'm not sure what the problem is that you're describing, it seems normal to me.  Although why are you using the -f argument?
[18:52] <tyger> Hi, does anybody know how to measure usb-mouse pooling rate?
[18:52] <Abongile> alokito: so what do you think?
[18:53] <wrapster> Pici: the issue is someting else here.. Im working on nexenta right now.. and to test the latest build to see if things are broken i ran -f install before update.. then again ...
[18:53] <alokito> Abongile, probably xserver misconfiguration
[18:53] <wrapster> that gave me these results
[18:53] <acicula> guntbert: well i just looked it up, using about me to change the password seems to make sure that the encryption remains working, just hammering in changepwd on the console wont(and break your encryption system)
[18:53] <wrapster> since it was related to apt i thought i'll ask here
[18:54] <wrapster> i just want to know the differnce with what I did.. so that I can know how to fix it
[18:54] <wrapster> Pici: pls help
[18:54] <daftykins> Abongile: what kind of media centre do you run, out of interest?
[18:54] <Pici> wrapster: We cannot provide support for nexenta here, sorry.
[18:54] <alokito> Abongile, right now I don't know how to fix it since xfix is gone
[18:54] <wrapster> Pici: hmm well it was an issue with apt right
[18:54] <wrapster> nexenta or not..
[18:54] <Abongile> daftykins: mythbuntu since 8.04 now some serious pain with 9.10
[18:54] <wrapster> thats y i asked..
[18:55] <wrapster> anyway ...sorry for the trouble
[18:55] <Pici> wrapster: Lots of operating systems use apt, Ubuntu didn't invent it.
[18:55] <OerHeks> Deathspike sudo apt-get remove gnome
[18:55] <daftykins> Abongile: ah right :) i'm awaiting delivery of an ASRock Ion so i can run XBMC on top of Ubuntu on my HDTV \o/
[18:55] <Deathspike> OerHeks I need to start it when I need to do some administrative tasks. So I don't want it gone :P
[18:55] <wrapster> Pici: yeah i understand .. but the logic behind it working is the same right.. so asked..
[18:55] <cemc> MerlinW: I was thinking more along the lines of mpg123 which I just found :) thanks
[18:55] <Deathspike> OerHeks: Just disabled..
[18:55] <OerHeks> Deathspike ic
[18:55] <guntbert> acicula: so that wouldn't change the passphrase but the wrapping
[18:56] <Xfact> abongile: Result out: nothing changed all same as before... :(
[18:56] <acicula> guntbert: yes
[18:56] <guntbert> JenniferB: a GUI way to change your password
[18:56] <acicula> guntbert: i think so anyway
[18:56] <OerHeks> Deathspike if you need it, occasionelly, leave it as it is
[18:56] <Hydrosis> About to try and play some NES roms without sound (cant fix this sound problem that arose out of thin air) and I see an option to enable OpenGL Rendering.  What is this and should I enable it?
[18:56] <guntbert> acicula: good to know
[18:57] <tyger> hi, anybody!!!!!
[18:57] <Deathspike> OerHeks: Do you happen to know the performance impact of having it on all the time (RAM/CPU wise)?
[18:57] <Xfact> abongile: well the earlier kernel is just 0.0.2 old... and I will do something next day, but thanks
[18:57] <Abongile> daftykins: well xbmc is a geat app, I used for the windows machines but used mythtv frontend on my linux fontends. I don know how to get livetv on XBMC so I stuck to the mythfrontend which has borrowed a lot from XBMC in this 9.10 distro. Any idea on my problem?
[18:57] <Xfact> everyone: repairing ubuntu via it's setup CD is possible?
[18:57] <acicula> Xfact: sure
[18:58] <daftykins> Abongile: nah sorry, got no experience with mythtv
[18:58] <Deathspike> OerHeks: GNOME seems to almost double the memory consumption :(
[18:58] <pingu_> For what term do I have to search in the terminal log when cfv tells me there are "chksum file errors"?
[18:58] <Xfact> acicula: without losing any major data?
[18:58] <Abongile> xfact really sorry:-(, will keep thinking.
[18:58] <Hydrosis> About to try and play some NES roms without sound (cant fix this sound problem that arose out of thin air) and I see an option to enable OpenGL Rendering.  What is this and should I enable it?
[18:58] <acicula> Xfact: depends on how you do it i suppose
[18:58] <OerHeks> Deathspike why do you need gnome on a server ?
[18:58] <Abongile> xfact: at least your older kernel is standing by you.
[18:59] <Cube``> hey - which command line file manager is the most similar to e.g. nautilus in terms of functions?
[18:59] <guntbert> acicula: have you seen http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568/1/ ?
[18:59] <acicula> guntbert: prolly not
[18:59] <Deathspike> OerHeks: Administrative purposes, I occasionally manage the processes using GUI's
[19:00] <Xfact> abongile: no need to be sorry it's an experiment to reveal some new problem causes... thanks you helped me :)
[19:00] <Hydrosis> What is OpenGL Rendering and should I enable it while playing NES roms in GFCE?
[19:00] <Abongile> daftykins: my challenge is loggin, i can't loggin into a graphical environment. I loggin, the screen flickers and the loggin prompt is retuned.
[19:00] <Xfact> Abongile:  Ain't your second kernel working...?
[19:00] <Deathspike> Hydrosis: OpenGL rendering is the way grapics are handled. Linux is only capable of this and most 2D/3D games are build on it. You want it enabled, if at all possible, software rendering is a bit.. sad.
[19:00] <Xfact> Abongile: or you got way?
[19:00] <daftykins> Abongile: ah right, sounds like X.org issues - did you clean install Karmic as a base, or did you upgrade install...?
[19:00] <guntbert> acicula: on page 2 is stated :This design allows them to change their system password, while eCryptfs simply re-wraps the mount passphrase without needing to re-encrypt all of the home directory contents. - sounds as if the whole thing *should* runn smoothly with passwd too
[19:01] <Hydrosis> Deathspike: I usually play games without it on.  What difference does it make to have in enabled if the games already work?
[19:01] <hekdahl> Anyone that knows how cancel a blacklisted driver?
[19:01] <acicula> guntbert: read what it says, it rewraps(reencrypts) whatever it uses to decrypt the system with the login pwd, so it needs to do that when you change the passwd
[19:02] <Abongile> Xfact: No it isn't, and that's what's depressing cause I have always been doing that since 8.04 where I at least know that I can drop "back" now no such luck not matter what kernel I choose exactly the same problem.
[19:02] <Deathspike> Hydrosis:: It'll take advantage of your graphics card (ever noticed they are directx/opengl capable with some version?) and improve performance. Old games, such as NES games, don't really care about it since software rendering can handle it, but that uses the CPU rather then your graphics card.
[19:03] <Xfact>  Abongile: so now you are chatting from....?
[19:03] <guntbert> acicula: right - I assumed (but not checked) that that was a task of ecryptfs
[19:03] <Musen> hi there
[19:03] <hekdahl> Hello there!
[19:03] <acicula> guntbert: well it is, but you still need to tell ecryptfs at some point : this was the old pwd, and this is the new one
[19:04] <Abongile> I am not sure now, I think this was a clean install but I can't be completely sure because of the number of times I have reinstalled my system. Now my issue I have data on both my drives and can't just clean install.
[19:04] <Musen> may i ask a quesiton
[19:04] <hekdahl> I need help with a driver that stops working everytime i reeboot my computer.
[19:04] <guntbert> acicula: it seems so - heads up for now :)
[19:04] <Xfact> hekdahl: which driver?
[19:04] <emes> can I get a minimal CLI install from the normal ubuntu CD or do I need the minimal CD?
[19:05] <hekdahl> Xfact: for the wireless.
[19:05] <Xfact> hekdahl: ohh...
[19:05] <daftykins> emes alternative disc for that is also an option i believe
[19:05] <Abongile> daftykins: I also remove xserver-xorg today and reinstalled, I removed gdm and reinstalled and back exactly where I started. Come to think of it I think I upgraded this one cause DHCP services were running fine in 9.04 and not all with no clue where to find them in 9.10, so I think this was an upgrade
[19:05] <hekdahl> Xfact: I was struggeling to get it to work. So i tried with Ndiswrapper.
[19:06] <daftykins> Abongile: it might be worth trying to delete/backup the gnome related configs in your home folder
[19:06] <hekdahl> Xfact: But then it turned out that i only had to upgrade the kernel.
[19:06] <daftykins> i've gotta go cook food now, back later
[19:06] <Xfact> hekdahl: well,...difficult
[19:06] <hekdahl> Xfact: When i tried with Ndiswrapper i had to run a command like "blacklist BCM43xx
[19:06] <Abongile> Xfact: Ubuntu Netbook Remix, on Dell Inspiron Mini.
[19:07] <hekdahl> Xfact: Can it have something to do with that?
[19:07] <Xfact>  Abongile: ohh...
[19:07] <emes> daftykins: what exactly is the alternate disc?
[19:08] <hekdahl> Xfact: Now the ubuntu driver works butt it stops working everytime i reeboot.
[19:08] <Xfact> hekdahl: well ,I think I am not the right person to take suggestion about this problem you should ask somebody else...
[19:08] <hekdahl> Xfact: Ok then, Thanx anyway.
[19:08] <Xfact> hekdahl: :)
[19:09] <hekdahl> Anyone hwo is good with wireless drivers?
[19:09] <Abongile> daftykins: back and delete gnome configs?
[19:09] <Pekka> Is there any easy way to block certain site? ex. Facebook?
[19:09] <blakkheim> Pekka: opendns
[19:09] <Xfact> Well anyway I have to say Karmic is not a STABLE release!
[19:09] <Hans_Henrik_> the pae can access 60 GB ram in 32-bit build
[19:09] <Xfact> maybe karmic is batter then all yet but still not strong in base!
[19:10] <edju> no xorg.conf in 9.10?
[19:10] <acicula> Pekka: many ways, use a firefox blocking plugin, drop traffic to the ip/dns, etc
[19:10] <blakkheim> edju: hal
[19:10] <Ddorda> where can I find the Ubuntu BURG theme?
[19:10] <Pekka> Can you tell me some simple way to turn on and off?
[19:10] <Pure> How should I run ubuntu in ms vm?
[19:10] <Doonz> Hey guys i installed ubuntu 9.10 dektop edition while i was learning. Is there a way i can remove all the desktop functionality of the system and just have the system boot straight into a login screen
[19:10] <blakkheim> !mini > Doonz
[19:11] <Doonz> blakkheim: whose that going to help
[19:11] <edju> well - no xorg.conf.  how to tell what display driver i'm using?
[19:11] <acicula> Pure: download the ubuntu iso and configure a virtualbox instance like you would normally?
[19:11] <blakkheim> Doonz: you, hopefully
[19:11] <hekdahl> My wireless driver stops working everytime i reeboot. Anyone that can help me with that?
[19:11] <Doonz> thats a reinstall
[19:11] <Pure> It wouldn't install
[19:11] <Doonz> i just want to remove the dektop funtionality
[19:11] <Pure> When I selected install it just shown the bios cursour
[19:11] <acicula> edju: xorg.0.log has it
[19:11] <blakkheim> Doonz: you could uninstall/disable gdm
[19:12] <alberto> I can't record from Line Input
[19:12] <alberto> Does anybody know why?
[19:12] <Xfact> anyone knows about any 'spacial feature' that is only available in karmic and so you like karmic verymuch?
[19:12] <DaZ> Xfact: there is any?
[19:13] <MaT-dg1> Doonz: System > Administration > Login Screen. Think that is what you want.
[19:13] <Xfact> DaZ:  no so I am asking...I think karmic has nothing but only latest version supports...
[19:13] <Xfact> DaZ: it's 'unstable'!
[19:13] <DaZ> Xfact: and that's enough [;
[19:14] <DaZ> Xfact: bs.
[19:14] <Doonz> blakkheim: yeah the unistall did what i wanted
[19:15] <myanex> had anybody this problem? ubuntu install doesn't see my harddisk partitions...
[19:15] <blakkheim> myanex: dying hard drive maybe?
[19:15] <Xfact> many peopl are saying like 'karmic sucks' 'karmic unstable' karmic doesn't connect Internet' 'karmic's update process has flaws' I am now feeling like I made a mistake updating from hardy to karmic :(
[19:15] <MaT-dg> myanex: do you have a raid config?
[19:15] <macman_> there a gui to dvdauthor ?
[19:15] <myanex> blakkheim: no, i can mount it from console (nautilus, hm, can't do it too)
[19:15] <blakkheim> Xfact: cool story bro, what do you want us to do?
[19:16] <myanex> no, i haven't got raid
[19:16] <MaT-dg> myanex: no idea then, sorry
[19:16] <blakkheim> myanex: fstab?
[19:16] <tyrosine> Xfact: I feel the same
[19:16] <erUSUL> Xfact: this is a support channel people does not come here to say "everything works like a charm; thanks"
[19:16] <E_mE> does ubuntu server have inetd install by default?
[19:17] <Xfact> blakkheim: well, nothing just do your 'help jobs' batter to rescue people from attack of bad koala!
[19:17] <TheCheeze> after i updated my kernel last night i am stuck with an icon saying that i don't have my ethernet plugged in. is there a way to get rid of this icon?
[19:17] <myanex> blakkheim: what fstab?
[19:18] <myanex> blakkheim: i'm loading from ubuntu livecd...
[19:18] <blakkheim> myanex: /etc/fstab - it's where the partitions you want automounted on startup are listed
[19:18] <Xfact> And I wish soon karmic and after lucid will be a great release that people will love to use without any complaints!
[19:18] <blakkheim> myanex: oh nvm then
[19:18] <bastid_raZor> Ubuntu is the best!! out of the box install works; flawlessly.
[19:18] <MerlinW> Xfact, thats user error, Karmic way more stable as any ubuntu distro. By the way, 10.4 will LTS, wait for it
[19:18] <Xfact> yea...
[19:19] <blakkheim> Xfact: if stability is your main concern, why don't you use something like debian or freebsd?
[19:19] <myanex> bastid_raZor: not all)
[19:19] <bastid_raZor> myanex: every install `ever`
[19:20] <bastid_raZor> blakkheim: or 8.04
[19:20] <MaT-dg> Xfact: most of us (if not all of us) here are volunteering to help other people here. We are not professional support engineers or full time helpdesk employees. Also there is no such thing as an OS without any problems.
[19:20] <coz_> hey guys... if anyone is interested, I found a site where a fellow created several simple but fairly interesting  xsplash animations....you need to go to google translate      espiralx.org     spanish to english...then click on "share"   then on "gnome"  and there is a list of items the fellow has apparenlty created for gnome including  xsplash
[19:20] <bastid_raZor> MaT-dg: i just got my check for helping last month.. you didn't get yours?
[19:20] <blakkheim> coz_: why are you advertising here?
[19:21] <bastid_raZor> coz_: nice
[19:21] <MerlinW> Xfact, the system is very stable. The 3rd party porgs like Gnome, mplayer, etc.. is a different story, they not the Ubuntu fault
[19:21] <Xfact> well with stability I also need support it has same value, and Uduntu gives great support, batter then all! and I am not Ubuntu, maybe sometimes I feel unhappy with it's performance, but most of the time it gives me much batter then all!
[19:21] <coz_> blakkheim,   if  you consider  giving users an opertunity to embelish their systems   advertising,,,then so be it
[19:21] <khaije|amalt> is the ubuntu ppc port competitive with other ppcs ports in terms of features, stability, functionality?
[19:21] <MerlinW>  if u using QT apps on GTK system also
[19:21] <bastid_raZor> coz_: he's new here.. :\
[19:21] <MaT-dg> bastid_raZor: no, where do I sign up for that?
[19:21] <blakkheim> Xfact: debian and freebsd have great support. i think you should give debian a try if you need stability over the latest versions of things
[19:22] <coz_> bastid_raZor,  as ok  then sorry blakkheim   :)
[19:22] <blakkheim> bastid_raZor: i'm not new here
[19:22] <MerlinW> khaije|amalt, dont u mean ppa?
[19:22] <Xfact> MerlinW: never mind, I know it's stable, it's just release so need more updates and all, thanks to you guys that you are helping us without any profit :)
[19:22] <bastid_raZor> MaT-dg: they contacted me. *shrug*
[19:23] <khaije|amalt> MerlinW: no ppc, the ppc arch is a community port these days apparently, just wondering about it's general quality
[19:23] <MerlinW> ahh
[19:23] <MerlinW> ok then:)
[19:23] <Xfact> blakkheim: but my Friend suggest me to use Ubuntu and I heard currently it's the most famous linux distro of all time...
[19:24] <blakkheim> Xfact: it is the most POPULAR. it's based on debian and made more user-friendly. debian is rock solid.
[19:24] <MerlinW> i dont know ether
[19:24] <erUSUL> this is a support channel go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <TheCheeze> there is no such thing as a truly brainless "user friendly" linux distro. that is why it is not as commercial as osx and win
[19:26] <Xfact> blakkheim:debian and freebsd is easy to handle like ubuntu, because it's website is not impressive like Ubuntu, no support no wiki no packages...nothing....
[19:26] <MerlinW> TheCheeze, high fiveeeee
[19:26] <MerlinW> :D
[19:26] <MorphyNOR> !offtopic | TheCheeze
[19:26] <blakkheim> Xfact: they both have support and wikis
[19:27] <TheCheeze> umm... that wasn't really off-topic, but thanks MorphyNOR :)
[19:27] <TheCheeze> after i updated my kernel last night i am stuck with an icon saying that i don't have my ethernet plugged in. is there a way to get rid of this icon?
[19:27] <Xfact> blakkheim: thanks for suggestion but I think I am happy now with Ubuntu....later I would try...
[19:27]  * erUSUL wonders what part of go to *offtopic* people does ot understand
[19:28] <ferdo> Hi. How can I save file in vim please?
[19:28] <Tuxpat> use esc
[19:28] <Tuxpat> and then
[19:28] <MorphyNOR> erUSUL: they believe that as long as they cram in "ubuntu" somewhere in their statements, its not offtopic
[19:28] <erUSUL> ferdo: in command mode type :w <enter>
[19:28] <Tuxpat> :wq
[19:28] <Sacho> ferdo: there's also a #vim channel here on freenode
[19:28] <Sacho> if you happen to need more help :)
[19:28] <ferdo> ok, thank you people
[19:28] <Tuxpat> :)
[19:29] <MerlinW> ferdo, use nano, its easier
[19:29] <iceroot> MerlinW: easier != better
[19:29] <MerlinW> ok
[19:29] <MerlinW> :D
[19:29] <Tuxpat> some one know a repository with 2.6.32 kernel x64'?
[19:29] <erUSUL> !ppa | Tuxpat search a ppa with it
[19:30] <grepory> Hi, I'm using 9.10 and not all of my multimedia keys are working.  The correct key events are being seen, but not passed along to Exaile (or Songbird when I was using it).  I'm not really sure where to look next.
[19:30] <grepory> Volume works fine, but play/pause, stop, next, and prev don't work.
[19:31] <cemc> I have nvidia with dual-view with 2 monitors. how can I tell for example thunderbird to always open up on the second monitor? (using gnome, karmic)
[19:32] <airtonix> cemc, using either devilspie or the compiz window rules module
[19:32] <airtonix> grepory, have you tried this yet : http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/37010/screenshot_001_7y5HDk.png
[19:32] <delfino74> sera a tutti :)
[19:32] <grepory> airtonix: they are assigned appropriately
[19:32] <erUSUL> !it | delfino74
[19:33] <grepory> grepory: I checked their and in gconf-editor
[19:33] <grepory> there. sigh.
[19:33] <delfino74> thank's ;)
[19:33] <guntbert> Shwack: are you still around? did you get your problem sorted?
[19:33] <delfino74> ubottu: ;)
[19:33] <airtonix> grepory, confirm that they work with other players first
[19:33] <grepory> airtonix: i haven't found a player they work with yet.
[19:34] <nu1> hello, Im havingo problems with falsh player. I have ubuntu x64 and when I am playing youtube videos I cannot use the controls (maximize window, change volume, etc). Anyone has experienced this problem before?
[19:34] <MichealH> ETA 90mins till Women Meeting IRC on #ubuntu-meeting
[19:34] <Tuxpat> nu1 do you have the package ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[19:34] <erUSUL> nu1: yes is known problem with compiz + flash
[19:34] <nu1> Tuxpat, yes, I believe so
[19:35] <nu1> erUSUL, any idea on how to fix it?
[19:35] <airtonix> grepory, you listed two players up in your previous msg, have you tried : rhythmbox, xmms, gmusicbrowser, vlc, totem, banshee, moovida media centre ?
[19:35] <grepory> airtonix: no, i'm installing xmms and rhythmbox now
[19:35] <Tuxpat> nu1, follow erUSUL ;)
[19:35] <cemc> airtonix: thx
[19:36] <erUSUL> nu1: no; you can disable compiz and there is a cuple of workaraunds in the launchpad bug.
[19:36] <soreau> erUSUL: Make sure they know flash is the problem because it's proprietary suckiness, not compiz ;)
[19:37] <airtonix> grepory, you can also consider audacious (a gtk port of xmms which could possibly have a media keyboard plugin),
[19:37] <soreau> If it could be fixed in compiz it would have already
[19:37] <grepory> airtonix: i'm probably giving up after rhythmbox.
[19:38] <Pizza1337> ping!
[19:38] <Flare183> grepory: What are you trying to do?
[19:38] <grepory> airtonix: if it doesn't work in four players, i'm pretty sure it isn't a problem with the players.
[19:38] <grepory> Flare183: get my media keys to work.
[19:38] <Flare183> Ah ok
[19:38] <airtonix> grepory, i assume you already manually reassigned the keys to the elements in the screenshot i posted ?
[19:38] <Flare183> Its in the Keyboard Shortcuts
[19:39] <grepory> airtonix: they were already assigned that way, and yes.  i tried reassgning them for kicks.
[19:39] <erUSUL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/412125
[19:39] <Flare183> grepory: Goto System, Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts.
[19:39] <kamil_sk> hi, how can I connect two pcs using cross cable and one has OS Ubuntu and second WINXP
[19:39] <Diverdude> i need to find all .sh files in the current folder and all subfolders. I was thinking doing something with grep like:   grep *.sh | ls -R -l but its not really working out as I ant it to. Could somebody help me a bit on my way?
[19:40] <sllide> what does Alt+Print Screen+L do?
[19:40] <grepory> Flare183: okay.
[19:40] <erUSUL> soreau: that i dunno; may be nspluginwrapper's fault too ;)
[19:40] <beezaul> is anyone using backtrack
[19:40] <kamil_sk> I have assigned static IPs for both and I am able to ping Ubuntu from Win but I can't ping win from ubuntu
[19:40] <chester> what's the file that holds dpkg information (holds the information that is displayed when you dpkg --getselections)?
[19:40] <Pizza1337> beezaul, #remote-exploit if you have question about backtrack
[19:41] <grepory> okwtf.
[19:41] <beezaul> ty
[19:41] <grepory> so i tried re-assigning them again.  just for fun.
[19:41] <grepory> and it works in rhythmbox.
[19:41] <grepory> *handwaving*
[19:41] <Diverdude> i need to find all .sh files in the current folder and all subfolders. I was thinking doing something with grep like:   grep *.sh | ls -R -l but its not really working out as I ant it to. Could somebody help me a bit on my way?
[19:41] <erUSUL> !who | grepory
[19:42] <erUSUL> Diverdude: find . -name '*.sh'
[19:42] <grepory> erUSUL: Interesting.  Thank you.
[19:42] <erUSUL> Diverdude: use the right tool for the job ;P
[19:43] <Diverdude> erUSUL, ohh i see...why cant i use grep and ls?
[19:43] <Abongile> Hi All, I am still here, I am looking for a solution to my loggin problems. I can't loggin into my system. I try to loggin and the loggin prompt come back. I have advised to take a look at /etc/passwd and have but don't know what I am looking at or what to change.
[19:43] <erUSUL> Diverdude: parsing ls output is not gerally a good idea
[19:43] <ejwaxx> chester: i'm not sure, but you can always use "dpkg --get-selections | cat > installed_packages" to make a copy
[19:43] <evergrenn> hello , all
[19:44] <Diverdude> erUSUL, why not?
[19:44] <erUSUL> Diverdude: but bash 4 in karmic allow you to do « ls **/*.sh »
[19:44] <erUSUL> Diverdude: cool heh?
[19:44] <grepory> airtonix, Flare183: thanks for the assistance.  it is weird that it worked.. it is puzzling that i don't understand why, but it's okay.  i have bigger fish to fry.
[19:44] <Diverdude> erUSUL, nice...thats cout syntax hehe
[19:45] <Flare183> grepory: I know what you mean. I had the same problem :)
[19:45] <erUSUL> Diverdude: ls -R | grep "\.sh"
[19:45] <erUSUL> Diverdude: that should have worked
[19:46] <varun> icmp port unreachable - any clues as to why
[19:46] <phoenixz> I have kernels 2.6.31-9 .......... until 2.6.31-17 installed.. How can I get rid of the -9 to say.. -12 kernels? I never use them, they only take up space and menu entries in my brug...
[19:46] <erUSUL> ejwaxx: why the extra cat ?
[19:46] <guntbert> phoenixz: use synaptic
[19:46] <erUSUL> phoenixz: unistall the kernels via synaptic
[19:46] <ejwaxx> phoenixz: go to synapic and search for packages with "linux-image" and "linux-headers", remove the old ones
[19:47] <phoenixz> guntbert: erUSUL: How would I do that with apt-get?
[19:47] <erUSUL> phoenixz: you gain a few hundred MiB too ;)
[19:47] <ameya> phoenixz, you can try "dpkg -l | grep linux"
[19:47] <Diverdude> anybody in here ever used matlab in ubuntu?
[19:47] <ameya> phoenixz, that command will tell you the names of linux kernel packages
[19:47] <ejwaxx> Diverdue: i have not, but we used scilab in my numerical analysis class
[19:47] <ameya> phoenixz, after that you can use apt-get purge <pkg name>
[19:47] <phoenixz> ameya: and then apt-get remove, say, linux-headers-2.6.31-10 ?
[19:47] <varun> icmp port unreachable shown on wireshark, firewall is disabled
[19:48] <phoenixz> ameya: purge is better yeah
[19:48] <ameya> phoenixz, correct!
[19:48] <Diverdude> ejwaxx, ok...well i have some problems configuring mexcompiling
[19:48] <phoenixz> ameya: I just see that apt-get purge linux-headers-2.6.31-10* is a BAD BAD idea..
[19:49] <ejwaxx> erUSUL: chester wanted a file with the dpkg selections...dpkg --get-selections writes to stdout by default, doesn't it?
[19:49] <ameya> phoenixz, is your current kernel is 2.6.31-10?
[19:50] <phoenixz> ameya: no, 17.. but specifying 10* (I wanted to get all of 10) takes ALL kernels.. baaad idea
[19:50] <ameya> phoenixz, then don't remove that package
[19:50] <MrKeuner> hello, how can I delete settings for ekiga, empathy?
[19:50] <JAcarto> hi!!åñòü ðóññêèå?
[19:50] <MrKeuner> user settings
[19:51] <erUSUL> phoenixz: sudo aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.31-{9..12}-generic ??
[19:51] <phoenixz> erUSUL: that is a nice thing.. didnt know that
[19:51] <erUSUL> ejwaxx: "dpkg --get-selections  > installed_packages"
[19:51] <ejwaxx> erUSUL: coolness.  my CLI-fu is not all that it could be :p
[19:51] <q0_0p> anyone here know what to do after i create virtual hdd how to format ntfs on image? sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=drive.img bs=512 count=204800
[19:52] <Solar_Flare> hi.
[19:52] <erUSUL> q0_0p: use loosetup to set up the imagefile as a block device
[19:52] <phoenixz> erUSUL: shaves about 1GB from the base install.. nice..
[19:52] <Solar_Flare> Where in /dev/ gets an audio cd mounted?
[19:52] <q0_0p> erUSUL, cool thanx
[19:53] <MerlinW> for remove unused kernels use synaptic, or the ubuntu-tweak app cleaner function
[19:53] <erUSUL> q0_0p: something like « sudo losetup file.img »
[19:54] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: audiocd are not mounted
[19:54] <Solar_Flare> erUSUL: ok.. then... where can i get the bitstream from my audio cd?
[19:54] <erUSUL> q0_0p: then the virtual hdd is accessible in /dev/loop0 ...
[19:54] <q0_0p> erUSUL, cool
[19:54] <q0_0p> erUSUL, that helps a lot thx
[19:54] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: what dio you want to do ? rip it?
[19:55] <Solar_Flare> erUSUL: yeah.
[19:55] <Solar_Flare> make an image of it.
[19:55] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: you access the cdrom device directly /dev/cdrom or /dev/sr0
[19:55] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: use brasero or another similar app
[19:56] <Solar_Flare> hm.. i get an input output error.
[19:56] <Maletor> Hello, I have Windows 7 on /dev/sdb and grub can't find it. Yes, I have read online, and nothing works.   I've done a lot of googling and gotten to the point where I know it's at dev/sde...
[19:59] <JAcarto> hi!!åñòü ðóññêèå?
[19:59] <maccs> ciao
[19:59] <ZykoticK9> Solar_Flare, you can't use ISO for audio CDs...
[19:59] <mkny13> when I try to mount it, I get the msg "you must specify the filesystem type"...
[19:59] <mkny13> it's FAT32...
[19:59] <lgc> Hi. I am unable to boot to Windows (and I used to). I always end up booting in Ubuntu 9.10. As of a recent time, this was not so. What coul be causing it?
[20:00] <mkny13> so I try mount -t vfat...
[20:00] <blakkheim> lgc: consider it a blessing
[20:00] <wausdu> HI I have a problem. My webcam (ASUS UL50) gives in output the right image but mirrored. How do I solve this?
[20:00] <mkny13> but that doesn't work either
[20:00] <mkny13> any help?
[20:00] <blakkheim> mkny13: show me the full command you are typing
[20:00] <Solar_Flare> ZykoticK9 y not?
[20:00] <Maletor> sudo os-prober is not returning windows 7
[20:01] <lgc> blakkheim, not that I like to boot to Windoze. But I need to.
[20:01] <home> I am trying to share a printer from my ubuntu computer with several other windows computers and I can't even get the computers to see each other on the network
[20:01] <genii> !by
[20:01] <ZykoticK9> Solar_Flare, ISOs contain a file system -- Audio CD do NOT (thus you need to use bin/cue style Imaging, but not regular ISO format)
[20:01] <acicula> home: sometimes computers have trouble seeing each other, you could try filling in the computers ip manually
[20:01] <lgc> blakkheim, something must have messed up my grub.
[20:02] <home> acicula: from which side should i do that? or both? do you know how?
[20:02] <Solar_Flare> ZykoticK9: Ok, i want to mount it afterwards as mount -o loop CD
[20:02] <mkny13> terminal output pasted here: http://dpaste.com/142217/
[20:02] <Solar_Flare> how could i accomplish that?
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> Solar_Flare, probably not going to work.  best of luck man.
[20:02] <blakkheim> mkny13: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sde /media/flashdrive
[20:02] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: you can *not* mount audio cd's
[20:02] <blakkheim> mkny13: change it to /dev/sde1
[20:02] <acicula> home: try on either i guess?
[20:03] <Solar_Flare> erUSUL: but with windows i can mount it in a virtual drive -.-
[20:03] <Solar_Flare> why not with linux?!
[20:03] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: dunno maybe acetone iso can. the kernel by itself can not
[20:03] <silare> !xfce | silare
[20:03] <JosefAss1d> quick question. Is medibuntu still the recommended path to w32codecs?
[20:03] <rjtmax> hey guys, is there a program to edit startup services in karmic? thanks
[20:04] <mkny13> blakkheim: aha! Thanks! now, will it remember that it I unmount, unplug, and replug in the future?
[20:04] <blakkheim> mkny13: no
[20:04] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: windows ca not either. daemon tools can or clonedrive or similar tools
[20:04] <ZykoticK9> JosefAss1d, yes
[20:04] <home> acicula: do you know how to do it from either side?
[20:04] <JosefAss1d> ZykoticK9: alright. Thanks
[20:04] <rjtmax> i dont want specific services to start at each boot in ubuntu 9.10 is there a tool to edit the startup services? they dont show up in "startup applications"
[20:04] <Solar_Flare> erUSUL: so? What would be the equivalent tool for ubuntu?
[20:04] <blakkheim> rjtmax: install sysv-rc-conf
[20:04] <devyll> any ideea how can I import everything from thunderbird 2.x to 3.0 on ubuntu ?
[20:05] <erUSUL> Solar_Flare: i told you already. i know of acetone iso
[20:05] <mkny13> is it difficult to config it so it DOES do that?   Or am I just coming in with Windows assumptions and need to get used to linux not doing stuff like that for me?
[20:05] <blakkheim> mkny13: if you leave it plugged in all the time you can add an entry to /etc/fstab
[20:05] <silare> !ubottu
[20:05] <BluesKaj> Maletor, http://linuxers.org/howto/how-configure-grub2-ubuntu-910
[20:05] <rjtmax> blakkheim, is that better than bum?
[20:05] <sfears> what is the differece between the regular and qt versions?
[20:06] <home> does anyone know how to set up a windows home network with an ubuntu computer?
[20:06] <blakkheim> rjtmax: ?
[20:06] <mkny13> blakkheim: no, it's attached to me keys, goes with everywhere
[20:06] <erUSUL> mkny13: all flash drives i tried have automonted themselves. having to use cli is rare
[20:06] <JAcarto> à åñòü êòî ñ Íîðâåãèè?)
[20:06] <sfears> home: use samba
[20:06] <blakkheim> mkny13: see what erUSUL just said
[20:06] <acicula> home: you can browse the other pc by opening nautilus or explorer on windows and going to \\<ip_of_the_other_machine>
[20:06] <daftykins> Abongile: yeah the .gnome / .gnome2 folders in your home folder, you could move them to .gnomeold for example as a backup then try logging in again
[20:06] <mkny13> I know, other's I have automount, but this otherwise nice adata 16GB apparently hates linux
[20:06] <acicula> home: i think anyway, been awhile since i dealt with that
[20:06] <rjtmax> blakkheim, bum is an application i just found that lets you edit runlevel stuff
[20:07] <blakkheim> rjtmax: never tried it. sysv-rc-conf does what you asked for.
[20:07] <Maletor> BluesKaj: that doesn't really help, i am just trying to boot win 7 64 bit off /dev/sdb and os-prober can't find anythign
[20:07] <rjtmax> blakkheim, thanks a million. im going to try both
[20:07] <mkny13> how bout this?  Can I save that mount command as something cliackable on the desktop?
[20:07] <aliendude5300> how do you echo text as a file to another command?
[20:08] <blakkheim> aliendude5300: echo asdf | somecommand
[20:08] <MerlinW> anybody using the ppa wine1.2+pulseaudio package?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> Maletor, well, sorry that's my best attempt ...you may have to do more research , but adding windows7 to the grub2 menu is the way to go IMO
[20:08] <aliendude5300> blakkheim, I know that, but it echoes the output as text. Not as a file.
[20:08] <blakkheim> aliendude5300: echo asdf > somefile.txt
[20:08] <Maletor> this blows
[20:09] <Maletor> i hate windows
[20:09] <Maletor> so so so so so much
[20:09] <Solar_Flare> isnt there anyway to get the bitstream out of my music cd? o.O
[20:09] <home> acicula: neither computer seems to be able to find the other dispite the fact that they can ping each other successfully
[20:09] <aliendude5300> blakkheim, here's what I'm trying to do: echo "string test" | xmacroplay, but I need it to interpret the output of echo as a file, not a string literal.
[20:09] <Solar_Flare> like with the terminal?
[20:09]  * `mOOse` looks at Maletor like the RCA dog
[20:09] <home> sfears: i've been trying to use samba but i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong...neither computer seems to see the other
[20:10] <blakkheim> aliendude5300: echo "string test" > /tmp/asdf && xmacroplay /tmp/asdf perhaps?
[20:10] <daftykins> Solar_Flare: first google result http://www.andrews-corner.org/abcde.html
[20:10] <erUSUL> Maletor: if the osprober is not finding anything make a file by hand
[20:10] <aliendude5300> that would work, but I bet there is a way to do it more efficiently
[20:10] <Maletor> fuck it i'm ditching windows modern warfare 2 is not that important to me
[20:10] <Seeker`> !language | Maletor
[20:11] <ameya> wausdu, did you get an answer for your webcam problem? what is the name of the webcam driver?
[20:11] <Maletor> if i'm using synaptic and i want to remove wine, which has installed x y z dependency how do i delete all those dependencies without having to do it manually
[20:12] <wausdu> ameya, no answers. Where can I find the driver name?
[20:12] <Diverdude> how do i remove a program i have installed using sudo apt-get install ?
[20:12] <nel> ok i understand that perl is suppose to be installed already on ubuntu but when i execute a script on my server with a .pl extension it asks if i want to download and won't execute how do i get around this?
[20:12] <erUSUL> Maletor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/353098/ you have to change the line « set root ... » to mach your computer
[20:12] <wausdu> ameya, the camera il a Suyin Corp.
[20:12] <MorphyNOR> Diverdude: sudo apt-get remove
[20:12] <ZykoticK9> Diverdude, "sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME"
[20:12] <meowsus> I need to connect to a Windows server that i used to connect to via Windows Remote Administration... Can anyone point me to a package that will let me connect to the server now that i'm running Ubuntu
[20:12] <meowsus> ?
[20:12] <MerlinW> Maletor, W7 to grub.cfg:  http://pastebin.com/m4e0a609f
[20:12] <sfears> i'm having problems while scrolling up in konsole... it seems to repeat the same line from the 3rd all the way to the bottom while i'm scrolling up.. and ideas
[20:13] <Maletor> erUSUL: it is /dev/sdb so that = (hd1,1)?
[20:13] <erUSUL> meowsus: gnome-rdp ?
[20:13] <spullar> anyone here help with android ADB questions
[20:13] <MerlinW> Maletor, if sdb, then u need (hd1,1)
[20:14] <nel> ok i understand that perl is suppose to be installed already on ubuntu but when i execute a script on my server with a .pl extension it asks if i want to download and won't execute how do i get around this?
[20:14] <erUSUL> Maletor: can not be a whole disk has to be a parition /dev/sdb1 ? (hd1,1) ?
[20:14] <home> acicula: it says "nautilus can not handle this type of location
[20:14] <erUSUL> !grub2
[20:14] <Maletor> yes
[20:14] <acicula> home: err smb:\\<ip> ?
[20:14] <Solar_Flare> sry.
[20:14] <Solar_Flare> connection dropped ^^
[20:14] <acicula> home: smb://<ip> even
[20:14] <ameya> wausdu, you can try "lsusb" to find out product and vendor id of your webcam
[20:14] <varun> icmp port unreachable shown on wireshark, firewall is disabled...any suggestions
[20:14] <meowsus> Does anyone have any experience with the remote administration of a Windows host thru an Ubuntu Client?
[20:15] <home> acicula: error: "Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[20:15] <home> Please select another viewer and try again."
[20:15] <wausdu> ameya, yeah it's a Suyin Corp. webcam
[20:15] <spullar> anyone provide Android ADB help
[20:15] <acicula> well then it cant access the smb stuff on the other machine i suppose :/
[20:15] <ameya> wausdu, once we know the driver, you can try modinfo <driver> to check if that driver supports any parameters which can be tuned
[20:15] <feed_me_seymour> meowsus: What do you mean? via Remote Desktop or VNC?
[20:15] <scott_ino2> anyone have experience with dvd::rip? It seems to be hanging while ripping the title
[20:16] <nel> anyone know how to install perl?
[20:16] <acicula> home: maybe this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP ?
[20:16] <iceroot> spullar: this is ubuntu support channel not android support channel
[20:16] <kamokow> nel: perl should be installed by default
[20:16] <cobrien> Need a good inkjet printer that works on linux.  USB.
[20:16] <acicula> scott_ino2: can you play the dvd?
[20:16] <cobrien> Can anyone help?
[20:16] <ries> hey all... for some reason or the other, my ubuntu live CD give me a screen with blinking colors green, brown and some colored squares... so it starts up X, but the screen is initialized wrong, this worked before! How could this be? (PS: windows on this computer works fine...)
[20:16] <acicula> !hardware | cobrien
[20:16] <erUSUL> meowsus: already told you to use gnome-rdp or tsclient
[20:16] <Maletor> ok new problem: i have a drive at /dev/sdb1 i just formatted to ext4 = 250GB, i also have /dev/sda which = 1 TB. How do I merge these drives together so that my computer thinks it's just one big drive. Does this make sense to do?
[20:16] <nel> yeah but when i execute scripts on my server it asks if i want to download it and wont' execute
[20:17] <scott_ino2> acicula, yes
[20:17] <kamokow> Are there any programs that I can use to open Guitar Pro and/or Power Tab's on Ubuntu?
[20:17] <meowsus> erUSUL: sorry dude, i'm getting used to pidgin, been a long time. THANKS!
[20:17] <spullar> I understand this is ubuntu, I'm using it on Ubuntu, and I've seen topics relating to it in the Ubuntu forums, so I figured if someone in the Ubuntu chat knows about ADB, they can help
[20:17] <sfears> ries: from the boot menu use f4 to start in safe graphics mode.. should resolve your problem
[20:17] <acicula> scott_ino2: then i'm out of ideas
[20:17] <scott_ino2> lol
[20:17] <erUSUL> Maletor: you can use lvm; no it does not make sense; imho
[20:17] <iceroot> spullar: ah ok i though you mean the os android
[20:17] <Maletor> erUSUL: what would be a good convention to do?
[20:17] <ries> sfears: let me try that...
[20:18] <Diverdude> i uninstalled gcc-4.4 but i cannot seem to remove gcc-4.4-base. Why is that?
[20:18] <erUSUL> Maletor: i would keep them separate but that's just my opinion
[20:18] <Maletor> what about RAID?
[20:18] <erUSUL> Diverdude: som progema needs it to run
[20:18] <EsatYuce> is there any application to change speak to text??
[20:18] <meowsus> feed_me_seymour: In windows i'd connect to the Windows Host with Windows Remote Desktop.
[20:18] <Maletor> erUSUL: how do i edit fstab so that the drive mounts on boot
[20:18] <erUSUL> !raid | Maletor
[20:18] <new2ubutnu> hi room
[20:18] <erUSUL> !fstab | Maletor
[20:18] <meowsus> feed_me_seymour: I need to do essentially the same thing, just using Ubuntu
[20:19] <feed_me_seymour> meowsus: use tsclient.
[20:19] <meowsus> feed_me_seymour: reading about it now ;) thanks!
[20:19] <feed_me_seymour> meowsus: tsclient:linux::rdp:windows :D good luck!
[20:19] <Diverdude> erUSUL, i still have gcc-4.2 installed, but for some reason this is not accepted as the system compiler in matlab...is there some way to promote it?
[20:20] <erUSUL> Diverdude: really dunno you should ask matlab support. maybe it just does not support it
[20:20] <EsatYuce> is there any application which can change speaking to text ?
[20:20] <Diverdude> erUSUL, hmm matlab support..there is no such thing :(
[20:21] <new2ubutnu> I am new to Ubuntu - I was using windows XP Pro - had to do a reinstall..  of course since I've reinstalled the OS 5 times since i bought the PC - it was locked out - Microsoft telephone support was of no help - they won't renew my activation key...   anyways.. I just installed  Ubuntu Studio 8.04.1 i386  I need to mount my old drive - i need to get my usb wifi adapter to connect to the internet - basically i don't know jack and I'm confused about the t
[20:21] <mintaka> new2ubutnu, dont fear
[20:21] <karmst> Hello Everyone
[20:21] <new2ubutnu> lol thanks mintaka..
[20:21] <new2ubutnu> hi karmst
[20:21] <karmst> stupid question time...
[20:22] <ameya> wausdu, can you see this ID in output of lsusb "064e"
[20:22] <guntbert> Diverdude: you can change the link /usr/bin/gcc to point to /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 instead to /usr/bin/gcc-4.4
[20:22] <karmst> How do I make my default window view be to list the files instead of icons?
[20:22] <macman_> there a gui to dvdauthor ?
[20:22] <erUSUL> new2ubutnu: install a package called « ntfs-config » then run it   « gksudo ntfs-config » . that will let you mount the old drive
[20:22] <sfears> good question... i'd like to know how to default to detail view
[20:22] <erUSUL> macman_: qdvdauthor
[20:22] <new2ubutnu> so I have my sister's vista laptop and have my ubuntu desktop running next to me
[20:22] <MrKeuner> hello, how can I delete user settings for ekiga, empathy?
[20:22] <macman_> erUSUL: ok cool thanks
[20:23] <karmst> yes me too sfears
[20:23] <karmst> ;)
[20:23] <wausdu> ameya, yeah that's the camera. 064e:a136
[20:23] <Oxide> Diverdude:in the manual of matlab they have how to config your env variables
[20:23] <MrKeuner> find . -name *mpathy* -exec rm {} -rf \; does not remove empathy settings somehow
[20:23] <macman_> erUSUL: is it nice ?
[20:23] <erUSUL> MrKeuner: why do you put the options after the filename ?
[20:24] <erUSUL> MrKeuner: find . -name *mpathy* -exec rm -rf '{}' \;
[20:24] <new2ubutnu> i tried to mount the partition that was my data partition...   i went to terminal and enteres " mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /olddrive/ -o force
[20:24] <richthegeek> just a quick tip for everyone - don't try downgrading GDM because it ruins your computer, your whole evening, and your supply of Coke gets depleted
[20:24] <jaiho> hey, has anyone got the battery power indicator in karmic working correctly, because mine ain't?
[20:24] <erUSUL> MrKeuner: handle with care. run it first with -print instead of -exec rm -rf ....
[20:24] <richthegeek> jaiho: it work's on my Eee
[20:24] <new2ubutnu> and it spits out  "mount: only root can do that"
[20:24] <MrKeuner> erUSUL, no you got me wrong, my version of the command works and deletes all those folders, but still the settings are not gone
[20:24] <acicula> jaiho: it doesnt appear?
[20:25] <sfears> karmst: change to the view you want.. and settings/save view profile
[20:25] <ameya> wausdu, have you seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838210
[20:25] <acicula> new2ubutnu: prefix it with sudo
[20:25] <erUSUL> MrKeuner: many settings will be on gconf... try gconf-editor
[20:25] <acicula> new2ubutnu: did you try clicking on the drive via Places(top left)?
[20:25] <jaiho> its does appear but shows erroneous results
[20:25] <kamil_sk> hi can anybody help me connecting two pcs using cross cable ubuntu/win XP
[20:25] <MrKeuner> erUSUL, I also did a rm .gconf/apps/Empathy -rf that did not remove settings etiher
[20:26] <Rico56_> hi
[20:26] <MrKeuner> erUSUL, I'll scream
[20:26] <erUSUL> kamil_sk: assings static ip address on the two computers
[20:26] <giiker> kamil_sk: i have done it before with 2 win PCs
[20:26] <kamil_sk> I have working connection between two pcs when both are Ubuntu
[20:26] <Rico56_> have anyone already installed Citrix receiver client on linux ?
[20:26] <sfears> i've tried that before kamil_sk.. i eneded up just using a router
[20:26] <giiker> it should be the same for Ubuntu
[20:26] <sfears> kamil_sk: you need a class b subnet.. start there
[20:26] <new2ubutnu> yes i did try clicking the drive - it said it was unable to mount and to go edit fstab
[20:26] <Guest90668> I'm trying to create a liveUSB from the 9.10 liveCD. I can get it too boot, but I have to fill in the path to the kernel and all the kernel parameters by hand. Can someone help me configure isolinux/syslinux so that if finds the *.cfg files and boots flawlesly?
[20:26] <karmst> ok where is settings at?
[20:26] <new2ubutnu> i don't understand how to edit fstab properly
[20:26] <kamil_sk> erUSUL,giiker,sfears: I used static Ip and can ping ubuntu from win but not win from ubuntu
[20:27] <MrKeuner> erUSUL, could it because I did not use gconf-editor and deleted .gconf files instead?
[20:27] <acicula> Guest90668: why not use unetbooting?
[20:27] <erUSUL> kamil_sk: windows fiewall running ?
[20:27] <kamil_sk> sfears: ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> win <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:27] <erUSUL> MrKeuner: really dunno; sorry
[20:27] <Napoleon> Bonsoir
[20:27] <Oxide> new2ubuntu:if you can't find it from places then write, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /mnt(whatever) without the -o force
[20:27] <kamil_sk> erUSUL: ah possibliy :(
[20:27] <MrKeuner> erUSUL, OK thanks
[20:27] <acicula> new2ubutnu: were you able to mount it using sudo and the mount command?
[20:27] <kamil_sk> that I forgot I haven't used win so long ag :D
[20:27] <kamil_sk> ago
[20:27] <new2ubutnu> but I did enter in terminal "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /olddrive/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222"
[20:28] <MrKeuner> hello, how can I delete user settings for ekiga, empathy?
[20:28] <Guest90668> acicula, didn't work. Tried it several times. All I get is "not a bootable media" and stuff. And I also need to learn more isolinux.
[20:28] <sfears> new2ubunt.. MrKeuner.. delete your .ekiga folder?
[20:28] <new2ubutnu> oxide trying now
[20:28] <karmst> Ah
[20:28] <Napoleon> Hello all
[20:28] <new2ubutnu> delete .ekiga folder??  huh wtf is that lol
[20:28] <MrKeuner> sfears, there isn't one
[20:29] <sfears> sorry new2ubuntu that wasn't for you
[20:29] <karmst> sfear: in the gnome file browser go to Edit, File Management Preferences
[20:29] <Napoleon> I'm new on Xchat
[20:29] <karmst> you can change all window defaults there
[20:29] <guntbert> !language | new2ubutnu
[20:29] <sfears> ohhh.. forgot i was in ubuntu
[20:29] <Oxide> new2ubuntu:what you 've write now it's for the fstab file...you want it permantly or just to mount it for now?
[20:29] <MrKeuner> sfears, what is different in Ubuntu?
[20:29] <ghost10> hello all:)
[20:29] <giiker> kamil_sk: di you put tehm in the same subnet?
[20:29] <acicula> new2ubutnu: directories prefixed with a . are typically hidden
[20:29] <giiker> kamil_sk: did you put tehm in the same subnet?
[20:30] <ameya> wausdu, i think the problem should be fixed by patching libv4l library. what version is there in your laptop?
[20:30] <new2ubutnu> erUSUL - sorry i missed your message  i don't have internet connected to it yet as i can't figure out how to install drivers for my wifi usb card
[20:30] <karmst> haha
[20:30] <karmst> there perfect.... List view with octal permissions =)
[20:30] <ghost10> does anyone know how i can mount an ext4 on ext3 partition
[20:30] <karmst> that's exactly what I wanted
[20:30] <acicula> new2ubutnu: tbh easiest way if its supported is to isntall a more recent version of ubuntu, what usb wifi dongle do you have
[20:31] <acicula> new2ubutnu: did you try to setup a wireless connection yet?
[20:31] <sladermen> Hey guys, im running ubuntu 9.10 and have vlc, is there a repo i should add or packages (codecs) to make sure vlc will play most anything i through at it?
[20:31] <Maletor> After upgrading from 2.6.31RC16 to 2.6.31RC17 Ubuntu fails to load my Nvidia drivers - what could this mean?
[20:31] <new2ubutnu> i don't know bout it online ummm  RT3070
[20:31] <cor_r> sladermen , most of them are automatically installed when installing the vlc package
[20:32] <happy> sladermen: have you ever had an issue with vlc
[20:32] <new2ubutnu> acicula - how do i set up ANY internet connections?
[20:32] <Oxide> new2ubuntu:did you solve your mount problem?
[20:32] <happy> sladermen: vlc plays all. no extra packages needed
[20:32] <cor_r> sladermen, u should maybe look for the divx package though, i once had the problem that it wasnt instlled wit vlc
[20:32] <ameya> ghost10, do you want to mount ext4 file system partition?
[20:32] <ghost10> hi all does anyone know how i can make my ext4 partition mount on my ext3 partition
[20:32] <karmst> ok here's another question
[20:32] <sladermen> happy,well havent played around with it in ages, just got back to ubunut ;)
[20:32] <wausdu> ameya, I'm reading the tutorial. 1 min
[20:32] <ghost10> @ameya: yes
[20:32] <karmst> is there anything in Ubuntu like MMC?
[20:33] <new2ubutnu> no oxide lol - trying to read responses and work between the laptop and the desktop while my gf is playing Wii behind me with the volume at max
[20:33] <happy> sladermen: I use vlc in windows too
[20:33] <giiker> sladermen: there is a how to on the forums on how to install the codecs here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683&highlight=Direct+Rendering
[20:33] <new2ubutnu> my blackberry is mounted and i can access it fine - which is where the linux driver for the usb wifi card is
[20:33] <bpietro> for install gurus: I found this guide http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/#more-253 , done complette install, all seems OK, but can't boot from just installed USB HD (BIOS settings done)  - 'GRUB loading' and nothing else
[20:33] <Guest90668> I'm trying to create a liveUSB from the 9.10 liveCD. I can get it too boot, but I have to fill in the path to the kernel and all the kernel parameters by hand. Can someone help me configure isolinux/syslinux so that if finds the *.cfg files and boots flawlesly?
[20:33] <acicula> new2ubutnu: top right there's an icon on the panel
[20:33] <acicula> new2ubutnu: theres only a few , dunno how to describe it, but one lets you configure network stuff
[20:34] <giiker> sladermen: I installed them and I havent had any problems up to now!
[20:34] <new2ubutnu> acicula - checking now
[20:34] <karmst> MMC anyone?!?
[20:34] <Kieran0413> karmst, As in the storage media?
[20:34] <Oxide> new2ubuntu:oh,ok!do you want to try to make it work?because i see you also have and wireless problems...
[20:34] <karmst> no
[20:35] <karmst> as in the Microsoft Management Console
[20:35] <karmst> but for Ubuntu
[20:35] <ghost10> @ameya:do you know how to do it
[20:35] <giiker> karmst: I dont think so
[20:35] <ghost10> @ameya: It gives me a certain error when ever i try
[20:35] <Kieran0413> Kardos, not as far as I know
[20:35] <karmst> I really want to be able to keep all my remote desktops in one window
[20:35] <Kieran0413> karmst, **
[20:35] <kamil_sk> erUSUL: Ok ping is good on both sides, how can I share files I used open SSH in ubuntu but in win an ftp ?
[20:35] <Kardos> i didnt ask anything !!
[20:35] <kamil_sk> or is there easier solution?
[20:36] <erUSUL> !samba | kamil_sk
[20:36] <new2ubutnu> i went to the button top left that is like the windows version of  the start button
[20:36] <karmst> RDP
[20:36] <karmst> !rdp
[20:36] <kamil_sk> erUSUL: ok I'll take a look at it, but never used it before :(
[20:36] <new2ubutnu> places>network>
[20:37] <karmst> hmmm
[20:37] <nightsjammies> I have an issue with k3b while trying to add files to burn a cd in k3b.
[20:37] <acicula> !wifi | new2ubutnu
[20:37] <new2ubutnu> there's one icon and it's called "windows network"
[20:37] <Kieran0413> karmst, The included rdp client supports multiple connections with bookmarks for each if I recall?
[20:37] <ghost10> No response yet on mounting ext4 on ext3 partition
[20:37] <nightsjammies> It tells me Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format..all of the songs are mp3 though.
[20:38] <acicula> new2ubutnu: no thats not it, but check the link ubottu posted, should be explained there how to setup the wireless
[20:38] <karmst> oh reaaly
[20:38] <karmst> really
[20:38] <nightsjammies> It also sayd you may manually convert these audio files to wave using anoter application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the k3b project.
[20:38] <karmst> let me go check that out
[20:38] <nightsjammies> Any clue?
[20:38] <new2ubutnu> o.k. thanks  - i'll check it and come back when i have failed miserably at that as well... :-p
[20:38] <karmst> hey YEAH!
[20:38] <karmst> kieran: the TS Client does have the ability to save the connections
[20:39] <karmst> Sweet!
[20:39] <new2ubutnu> while the page is loading - why would my blackberry show up mounted and accessable - when i didn't do anything to mount it?
[20:39] <erUSUL> nightsjammies: is libk3b6-extracodecs installed ?
[20:40] <erUSUL> new2ubutnu: most things get automounted in ubuntu this days
[20:40] <nightsjammies> dunno. Lemme go and check
[20:40] <Kieran0413> new2ubutnu, it probably auto mounts if your BB acts as a mass storage device
[20:40] <karmst> oh man...Hell the RDP client on linux is ALOT faster than on windows
[20:41] <Diverdude> how do i then remove a program i installed from a .tgz package?
[20:41] <Kieran0413> karmst, Yeah, it's not bad :)
[20:41] <nightsjammies> Nope. Gonna install it though.
[20:41] <karmst> thanks kieran for the help... I'm being lazy today...
[20:41] <Xpistos|work> Is there any benefit to using the Sharing Center vs. direct downloads from software sites?
[20:41] <Kieran0413> karmst, no problem :)
[20:42] <BellinXFelon> can someone help, i have an external hdd and after a period of time the contents of the drive become inaccessible, as if it unmounts itself
[20:42] <Diverdude> how do i remove a program i installed from a .tgz package?
[20:42] <iceroot> Xpistos|work: repositorys will hold the system up to date
[20:42] <nightsjammies> Okay, thanks... :)
[20:42] <iceroot> Xpistos|work: without searching on websites for updates
[20:42] <tibrox> Diverdude, aptitude should work
[20:43] <Diverdude> tibrox, how so?
[20:43] <owner> I've got the million dollar question everyone on the INTERNET has been asking.
[20:43] <Xpistos|work> iceroot: If I install gpodder from the software center, it give me .16, but the current version is 2.X
[20:43] <tibrox> asuming it was installed with the installer, then aptitude remove theProgram should fly
[20:43] <owner> Where do you find the black and white glowing screen files in Ubuntu 9.10 so you can customize them?
[20:43] <sawyer_> i've got a problem with my wireless network ralink usb stick
[20:43] <Xpistos|work> iceroot: Will it install the updated verstion if I apt-get upgrade?
[20:43] <iceroot> Xpistos|work: repos are always older
[20:44] <sawyer_> i've updated the kernel in my karmic and it suddenly stopped working
[20:44] <iceroot> Xpistos|work: no
[20:44] <sawyer_> the official ralink drivers don't even compile
[20:44] <iceroot> Xpistos|work: just security updates, no function-updates
[20:44] <sawyer_> the ubuntu HardwareSupport page shows that the best is the original drivers (which don't compile)
[20:44] <owner> I'm talking about the screen that comes up right after GRUB and before xsplash
[20:44] <sawyer_> is there any way to use the drivers i had before the kernel update?
[20:45] <owner> #ubuntu-support
[20:45] <Xpistos|work> iceroot: So if I want up to date versions I need to use the ppa?
[20:45] <trijntje> owner: i'd like to know that too..
[20:45] <iceroot> Xpistos|work: yes or use backports
[20:45] <owner> :D
[20:45] <iceroot> !backports | Xpistos|work
[20:45] <Xpistos|work> check
[20:45] <guntbert> tibrox: that is simply false
[20:45] <owner> trijntje I've tried looking in the grub2 for clues
[20:45] <tibrox> ok
[20:45] <ameya> ghost10, what error do you geT?
[20:46] <kamil_sk> erUSUL: OK I go to places Conncet to server Winshare username, pass, domain WORKGROUP and connect and nothing happens :(
[20:46] <owner> I've also been searching for any files containing the text xsplash
[20:46] <owner> My computer is still searching :D
[20:46] <guntbert> Diverdude: usually the README should contain instructions for removal - often there is a make target 'uninstall'
[20:46] <acicula> owner: google ubuntu splash screen customization
[20:46] <trijntje> owner, i know the image you get just before login is in /usr/share/images/xsplash
[20:46] <nu1> trijntje, owner, an interesing question...
[20:46] <owner> trijntje: Right I figured that one out.
[20:47] <acicula> owner: pretty sure there are a bunch of threads about it that demo how to do it
[20:47] <tibrox> what program can i use that will shuffle my playlist before burning?  The inestimable brasero doesn't seem to do this and I don't want k3b with all the kdelibs
[20:47] <nu1> trijntje, owner, please let me know if you find anything :)
[20:47] <owner> acicula: I've been searching for quite some time now. All I can find is info about the xsplash and other people asking the same question.
[20:48] <lgc> Hi. How can I see a Windows display from a remote machine on my local 9.10 through VNC?
[20:48] <owner> I think the Canotical folks are really proud of their logo.
[20:48] <erUSUL> kamil_sk: Places>Network>Windows network does not work either?
[20:49] <SinDex> All righty. At wits end with a problem. I'm using 9.10 on a Dell Inspiron 1505 (ATI Mobility x1300 This will be relevant in due time.) I was trying to get compiz to work because I wanted to show the 'desktop cube' off to someone.
[20:49] <giiker> lgc: installing vnc server on Wins
[20:49] <Kieran0413> lgc, rdp would be easiest if the windows box supports it, if not install just about any vnc server on it.
[20:49] <acicula> lgc: with vncviewer
[20:49] <trijntje> owner, nu1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplash
[20:49] <owner> The xsplash is the ubuntu splash screen. However there is another splash that comes before it and it's not grub2's splash screen.
[20:49] <airtonix> kamil_sk, has the windows box had its sharing changed to 'simple sharing' ?
[20:49] <hey_man> does Ubuntu have a policy on responsible disclosure?
[20:49] <owner> trijntje Ubuntu 9.10 no longer uses Usplash but Xsplash.
[20:49] <cro2h> anyone of you know any different vulnerability scanner nessus
[20:50] <owner> Some have referred to the screen before Xplash as X11 Boot Screen
[20:50] <airtonix> kamil_sk, if not, then turn it on and try again.
[20:50] <SinDex> I read in a tutorial that envyng could be used to get the latest ati drivers. Ran it, it claimed to automatically find the drivers. Great. Installed the drivers and did a reboot. Upon startup, I get a message saying "Ubuntu has entered low graphics mode because no graphics config can be found"
[20:50] <djtoast> Hi all,  ive been trying to get more than 2 monitor to work on ubuntu 9.10.  I get to the point of having 2 (same videocard) in twinview and the other one as a seperate X.  I tried xinerama but at login all screens flashes and doesnt give the login prompt
[20:50] <acicula> hey_man: how do you mean, if its ubuntu specific best to contact the maintainer directly or go upstream with a report?
[20:50] <hey_man> well...
[20:50] <kamil_sk> airtonix: Ok
[20:50] <acicula> hey_man: there is also a ubuntu security team
[20:50] <cro2h> hola alguien conose algun escaner de vulnerabilidades diferente al nessus
[20:50] <Kieran0413> cro2h, have a look at sectools.org
[20:50] <hey_man> I mean, is it Ubuntu policy to disclose before publishing?
[20:50] <airtonix> kamil_sk, i assume you know how to turn on 'simple sharing' within the windows machine ?
[20:51] <SinDex> I followed the directions to remove the drivers from envyng (envyng --uninstall-all) and it claimed that it uninstalled the drivers. I reboot again and now upon x starting, I get the ubuntu login screen. I log in and all I get is a grey screen.
[20:51] <trijntje> owner, ah I see, ill google again ;)
[20:51] <acicula> hey_man: you mean like forward notification of planned patches?
[20:52] <owner> What I hope to find is a config file containing the word xsplash or bg_2560x1600.jpg because that config file would control the boot process or at least the xsplash. If there is a file controlling Xsplash then there is probably a file controling whatever comes before it.
[20:52] <giiker> cro2h: there is one which is a fork from Nessus 2.2 http://www.openvas.org/
[20:52] <owner> If we can isolate that file then we can ask it for directions.
[20:52] <owner> :D
[20:52] <hey_man> well, I mean, do you guys suggest recommended security practices of contacting the vendor first and waiting for a fix before publishing a vulnerability report
[20:52] <trijntje> owner, are you sure, when I google xsplash i only get pictures from the ubuntu logo you see just before startup
[20:52] <lgc> acicula, Kieran0413, giiker, thanks. I just installed VNC on the Windows side. But there's VNC Server service or user mode, and a bunch of options that puzzle me.
[20:52] <owner> Right!
[20:52] <hey_man> sorry for not b eing clear
[20:52] <SinDex> Is there a way to restore the previous settings that were working perfectally fine before I mucked about with them?
[20:52] <owner> That's exactly what the xsplash is
[20:52] <owner> however there is a screen that comes before the xsplash
[20:53] <airtonix> hey_man, isn't that the recommended course of action in any case ?
[20:53] <acicula> hey_man: that typically is the nice way to disclose
[20:53] <trijntje> yeah, isnt that Xsplash owner?
[20:53] <hey_man> okay
[20:53] <owner> in 9.10 it's a white logo with a black background that glows
[20:53] <owner> it comes up before the xsplash.
[20:53] <owner> here I'll give you a tip.
[20:53] <hey_man> I just noticed one of your security team members not following that, and I was confused
[20:53] <airtonix> hey_man, it's not cricket otherwise
[20:53] <Kieran0413> lgc, you'll probably want service mode if you want it to run all of the time, as I said though if you're running XP Pro/Vista Ultimate or whatever the alternative is for 7 rdp would be a far easier option.
[20:53] <Diverdude> it seems one should remove all files using rm -r to uninstall matlab. Do ubuntu have some sort of central register like windows registration database?
[20:53] <owner> If you look in the xsplash directory in Ubuntu you won't find it.
[20:53] <owner> So it's somewhere else
[20:53] <erUSUL> Diverdude: no
[20:53] <Kieran0413> lgc, you might be best looking at the docs for whatever vnc server it is you're using otherwise
[20:54] <owner> Everything for the xsplash except the config file is in the xsplash directory
[20:54] <acicula> hey_man: example ?
[20:54] <owner> so then the question is where is the config.
[20:54] <hey_man> I don't wish to disclose that here
[20:54] <owner> And does it have some crazy file extension like .mod
[20:54] <hey_man> is there somebody I can send a report to?
[20:54] <airtonix> !who | owner
[20:54] <lgc> Kieran0413, I just want to have my Windows display on my Ubuntu.
[20:54] <trijntje> owner /usr/share/images/xsplash has the background and the ubuntu logo
[20:54] <Kieran0413> lgc, Which version of windows are you running?
[20:54] <lgc> Kieran0413, Xp Pro.
[20:54] <owner> trijntje you are half right
[20:54] <Diverdude> erUSUL, so doing rm-r would be an okay way of deletinga program?
[20:55] <hey_man> acicula: nevermind, I'll find somebody
[20:55] <Kieran0413> lgc, google how to set up Remote Desktop. Once that's done you can connect directly from the Remote Desktop Viewer on ubuntu with minimal set up
[20:55] <acicula> hey_man: you want to complain about personal disclosure practice of someone affiliated with ubuntu?
[20:55] <lgc> Diverdude, mind the space between the command and its option.
[20:55] <Kieran0413> lgc, should be far easier
[20:55] <owner> trijntje it is the background, and the ubuntu logo but only for the xsplash. Before that comes a screen that is black with the white ubuntu logo without the word Ubuntu.
[20:55] <hey_man> acicula: yes
[20:55] <airtonix> trijntje, xsplash is indeed to thing that controls the starup animation prior to the login screen
[20:55] <erUSUL> Diverdude: you should use packagemanagment if possible. you should look maybe matlab installer has an uninstall option
[20:56] <erUSUL> Diverdude: becouse i doubt matlab install everytihng under a single folder
[20:56] <airtonix> trijntje, actually i was wrong its the animation after the login screen
[20:56] <acicula> hey_man: then id start with the person in question or his/her team, though not sure what you want to achieve?
[20:56] <owner> trijntje I once thought the file was located in HumanLoginIcons because I found such a logo there. It was too small and changing it did nothing.
[20:56] <hey_man> acicula: fair enough
[20:56] <trijntje> owner, yes, but you said that that thing was also called xsplash now?
[20:56] <hey_man> thx
[20:56] <Diverdude> erUSUL, well...there is unfortunately no uninstaller i think
[20:56] <FiReSTaRT> guys i'm a bit lazy to do a whole whackload of research.. if anyone is familiar with various media platforms, could you give me a quick 411 on the advantages/disadvantages of running mythtv, boxee and xbmc on a karmic box?
[20:56] <owner> trijntje it's just an icon theme for your desktop
[20:57] <owner> trijntje there are two seperate splash screens you see durring boot
[20:57] <lgc> Kieran0413, Remote Desktop Connection is another app, AFAIK.
[20:57] <kamil_sk> airtonix,erUSUL: Thanks guys it works :)
[20:57] <wausdu> ameya, nah it does not work. How can I patch that lib?
[20:57] <trijntje> airtonix, i believe its both before and after login..
[20:57] <nu1> I Am receiving a message (capabilities mismatch) in ubuntu one icon. I am using ubuntux64. Is it supported already, or is ubuntu one having problems?
[20:57] <erUSUL> kamil_sk: no problem
[20:57] <Kieran0413> FiReSTaRT, They're all completely different, myth is TV oriented, xbmc is best for local media (in my opinion), boxee is for 'social' stuff.
[20:57] <owner> trijntje one is xsplash (the second one) and one is referred to as "Boot Splash" "X11" or X11 Boot Screen.
[20:57] <ddelony> Is Ubuntu one supposed to sync my Tomboy notes?
[20:57] <kamil_sk> airtonix: BTW I don't know if I used dimple sharing I just ran the wizard
[20:57] <owner> trijntje no one has a name for it yet because they haven't found it.
[20:57] <airtonix> kamil_sk, remember that bit next time you setup smb sharing between a windows machine and a linux machine...(it'll save much time)
[20:58] <Kieran0413> lgc, Yeah it is, I assumed you didn't explicitly require vnc since you said all you wanna achieve is viewing of your windows display and for that rdp would be easier, if you require vnc look at the documentation for the vnc server you installed to set it up
[20:58] <subspider> hi
[20:58] <trijntje> owner, yeah.. That why I cant google for how to change it, it has no name. Crazy stuf.
[20:58] <owner> trijntje does that help clear things up?
[20:58] <FiReSTaRT> Kieran0413: here's the deal.. i wanna use the computer for local media, network media and as a tv dvr.. i only gave mythtv a quick whirl but couldn't easily figure out how to open local content
[20:58] <airtonix> kamil_sk, >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
[20:58] <owner> trijntje now we must become hackers
[20:58] <ameya> wausdu, what is the version of libv4l do you have?
[20:58] <trijntje> owner, yes, I think we are on the same page again :)
[20:58] <FiReSTaRT> Kieran0413: do xbmc and boxee have tv reception and mce remote capabilities?
[20:58] <trijntje> owner, we cant be the only two people who want to do that ..
[20:59] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: boxee and xmbc has no dvr capabilities afaik
[20:59] <ameya> wausdu, i guess you will need this patch: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36154071/add_USBID_064e_a136_for_Asus_UL30.diff
[20:59] <airtonix> trijntje, wasn;t this called usplash in prior versions of ubuntu ?
[20:59] <owner> trijntje Isn't it ironic that we have to hack an open source project?
[20:59] <Kieran0413> FiReSTaRT, I'd just have a play about and see what fits your needs. XBMC doesn't have TV support however it can connect to a myth-backend to watch tv/your recorded shows
[20:59] <owner> trijntje and that there is no documentation or boot manager to change it?
[20:59] <Kieran0413> FiReSTaRT, So XBMC with a myth-backend may be what you're after, otherwise read up a bit more on configuring myth-frontend :)
[20:59] <kamil_sk> airtonix: I hope it'll just work next time :)
[20:59] <nu1> trijntje, owner, you're not, If I had more time I would help :(
[20:59] <trijntje> airtonix, I dont know, the terms are confusing me..
[20:59] <kamil_sk> Thank once again and goodbye
[21:00] <Diverdude> erUSUL, I installed it with: sudo tar -zxvf /tmp/matlabr2008b.tgz so i guess there is no uninstall program right?
[21:00] <airtonix> trijntje, does this shed any light on the issue ? >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot
[21:00] <karmst> Firestart: XBMC does
[21:00] <erUSUL> Diverdude: right; just deleting the folder is enough
[21:00] <karmst> I use XBMC personally
[21:00] <FiReSTaRT> karmst: so it does have pvr capabilities? what about using an mce remote?
[21:00] <owner> trijntje I don't want to say anything negative to get booted or anything but I think canotical is doing some things with their influence on Ubuntu that are not completely open source or necessarily for the good of the community.
[21:00] <karmst> yes I use my MCE remote on it
[21:00] <nu1> Is ubuntuone supported for x64 architecture?
[21:01] <Kieran0413> FiReSTaRT, It doesn't have its own pvr stuff but as said you can use it in conjunction with a myth-backend to do that, mce remote works fine
[21:01] <iceroot> nu1: sure
[21:01] <karmst> you need the MCE remote plugin for it
[21:01] <Kieran0413> nullvariable, yes
[21:01] <erUSUL> !ubuntuone
[21:01] <iceroot> nu1: called amd64
[21:01] <owner> trijntje I'll keep hacking
[21:01] <owner> Wha ha ha ha ha
[21:01] <trijntje> owner, you think? I dont know, if we find out we have to write a howto ;)
[21:01] <lgc> owner, it's "CaNonical", with an "n".
[21:01] <FiReSTaRT> Kieran0413: perfect.. and im pretty sure it can take full advantage of the ion chipset :P
[21:01] <brontos> where do I set path ENV variables I want recognized when I run sudo?
[21:01] <Kieran0413> FiReSTaRT, Yeup, I have it running on an Ion 330, works beautifully ;)
[21:01] <trijntje> airtonix, looks promising, thanks
[21:02] <owner> trijntje lgc sorry for the spalling errur . I would definitely write a how to as long as I get credit or maybe just a script that does it for you.
[21:02] <airtonix> trijntje, you are not talking about this screen are you ? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=139724&d=1260735745
[21:02] <FiReSTaRT> Kieran0413: guess what i'm gonna run it on ;) i love my new little revo.. it was a beotch setting it up with mythbuntu so i ended up just erasing it and installing straight karmic
[21:02] <owner> trijntje with Microsoft's Windows you have to hack it just to get it to work the way you want it to, now with Canotical products it's looking the same.
[21:02] <alesan> !acroread
[21:02] <nu1> iceroot, for some reason, I cannot connect to ubuntu one I do not know why. I installed ubuntu for 64 bit, so I thought  it was not supported yet or something else...
[21:03] <raul_> do I need an antivirus for linux?
[21:03] <alesan> !acrobat
[21:03] <acicula> !virus| raul_
[21:03] <nu1> raul_ no
[21:03] <FiReSTaRT> raul_: only if you are sharing files with windows users and you want to protect them from viruses
[21:03] <owner> trijntje the only good thing Ubuntu has going for it is that it is very stable, supports lots of apps, and has lots of drivers.
[21:03] <Kieran0413> FiReSTaRT, Yeup, works beautifully though to be honest I've not tried the XBMC with Mythbackend much, only for playing about, seems to work great though, just play around a bit and see, myth can be a pain to configure though so make sure you read the docs
[21:03] <alesan> how do I install the adobe acrobat reader?
[21:03] <owner> trijntje I'm Justin Breithaupt. www.justuselinux.com
[21:03] <jellow> owner: Would not Xplash not be in /init.d/ as it has to be called on boot somewhere?
[21:04] <v3n0x> Hi.
[21:04] <owner> jellow good idea
[21:04] <jcole> i have a scenario im trying to figure out... ive got packages that users install, but i want a "migration" script to run after the install (as the current mortal user logged into gnome)
[21:04] <jcole> i notice for kernel updgrades and such, a "reboot is required box" pops up in the tray.. guessing dbus... can someone point me to a shell script example of how to do this?
[21:04] <SinDex> Mmmmm Jell-o
[21:04] <samuel> Hi
[21:04] <FiReSTaRT> alesan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu this page has the info u need on installing acrobat if you dont like opening pdfs with evince (the built in viewer)
[21:05] <karmst> haha
[21:05] <samuel> just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop today
[21:05] <ogex> hi
[21:05] <ddelony> samuel: Congratulations.
[21:05] <karmst> I just wacked my Windows 7 partition =)
[21:05] <samuel> me too
[21:05] <guntbert> owner: remember, this channel is publicly logged - so you may want to reveal some info only in PM :)
[21:05] <Kieran0413> Was everyone worrying about the RC license expiring then? xD
[21:06] <trijntje> airtonix, Cant view that, i'm not a forum member
[21:06] <ddelony> Got a netbook for Christmas and only used the Windows that came with it to download Ubuntu. :-)
[21:06] <samuel> its a Dell Studio 15
[21:06] <SinDex> Is there an easy way to restore a previous graphic card config after envyng (and the user :0)) broke the config?
[21:06] <acicula> Kieran0413: isnt that till march?
[21:06] <karmst> no I just like Ubuntu so much better than 7 after using it for 2 weeks
[21:06] <owner> I'm not affraid
[21:06] <owner> gunbert
[21:06] <Kieran0413> acicula, Yeah it is, I was just testing though and didn't wanna be greeted with "Blah blah has expired"
[21:07] <samuel> but I can't upgrade to 9.10 because it won't boot when I do :(
[21:07] <ameya> samuel, what error do you get?
[21:07] <samuel> a blank screen
[21:07] <lgc> Why won't GRUB let me boot from Windows?
[21:07] <Diverdude> hmmm i experience extreme lag on my ubuntu-machine, but when i run top there is not really any processes taking up the processor...How can i figure out what causes the lag?
[21:08] <ameya> samuel, do you have any important data in ubuntu 9.04 installation?
[21:08] <samuel> ???
[21:08] <tyro> ?
[21:08] <acicula> Diverdude: post the top few lines from top
[21:08] <FiReSTaRT> lgc: buddy, trust me, you wanna take this up with people on #grub.. i've had a beotch of a time with certain dual boot configurations and they helped me sort them out after hours of headaches :)
[21:09] <sooze> http://doiop.com/Girl_hot19
[21:09] <lgc> Diverdude, if your problem is the same as mine, Xorg  hogs your CPU dearly. But then it stops.
[21:09] <fungos> I'm trying to instal ubuntu 9.10 x86 in a old machine (athlon with vga onboard sis) .. but at the installer I only get a blackscreen .. X is trying to use a invalid video mode or anything else, I also tried to pass the parameter nomodeset to kernel.. but not effect. Anyone?
[21:09] <acicula> high disk activity perhaps?
[21:09] <ameya> samuel, because if you don't have any important data in current ubuntu installation you can just boot from 9.10 livecd and overwrite the current installation
[21:09] <acicula> !op|sooze
[21:09] <lgc> FiReSTaRT, thanks, I didn't know such channel existed.
[21:09] <Diverdude> lgc, yes that might be it because Xorg is the top process in top...but it does not eat 100%
[21:09] <fcuk112> strange, my irssi doesn't scroll down automatically as i get new messages in irssi.  need to page-down to see the new messages, only happens in demonoid channel.
[21:09] <Diverdude> lgc, what do you do then to remove the lag?
[21:10] <FiReSTaRT> lgc: neither did i until i came across those issues overseas setting up my uncle's and my cousin's machines
[21:10] <samuel> Ameya I don't really care Im satisfied with 9.04
[21:10] <subspider> how do i can install a priter that is being shred buy a windows XP
[21:10] <owner> jellow trijntje Ubuntu's explanation in their readme files says that all methods that Ubuntu 9.10 uses to boot and what it executes follows Debian's method.
[21:10] <lgc> Diverdude, it means Xorg has some decency left. But wait for the next releases...:).
[21:10] <Diverdude> lgc, what is Xorg?
[21:11] <airtonix> subspider, you should be able to use it via samba theoretically (i assume)
[21:11] <subspider> i-ve being reading tutorials
[21:11] <airtonix> subspider, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[21:11] <trijntje> airtonix, no, we are not looking for the screen that you sent me
[21:11] <ameya> Diverdude, Xorg is the X server which supports your graphical environment
[21:12] <airtonix> trijntje, then you mean the black and white one prior to login ?
[21:12] <Diverdude> ameya, i see...well...thats probably whats causing the problems...i hope it gets better sometime soon
[21:12] <trijntje> airtonix, yes
[21:12] <subspider> airtonix, so i ahve to install samba on xp right
[21:12] <subspider> ??
[21:12] <lgc> Diverdude,  it's the graphics engine. But I don't know **** of it. Right now it's taking most of my CPU. It even slows down my typing. The good news is that it'll hopefully stop hogging your CPU all of a sudden. Probably after a couple of suspends.
[21:12] <calwig> I have a bit of an issue with ext2/3
[21:13] <ameya> calwig, what is the problem?
[21:13] <Diverdude> lgc, what comp are you running ubuntu on?
[21:13] <owner> jellow trijntje | Usplash is installed in Ubuntu 9.10 or at least scripts for it. And they are used during start up.
[21:14] <owner> jellow trijntje | I have no idea how or why Usplash is involved when Ubuntu clearly states that in 9.10 they don't use it any more.
[21:14] <calwig> New HDD 400GB/ Formatted it on ext2/3/4  and transferred nearly 72% of data to it from a live usb ubuntu. So there is one single partition formatted, has files, data is all there. (no operating system yet)
[21:14] <domjohnson> Hello
[21:14] <lgc> Diverdude, it's a rather old 2GHz Dell Inspiron with 2GB RAM. Not bad, but with a single processor.
[21:14] <domjohnson> I've no sound in Karmic
[21:15] <calwig> What I would like to do now is install Ubuntu 9.10 on it without formatting.
[21:15] <airtonix> trijntje, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[21:15] <owner> brb everyone
[21:15] <tweakt> is there any sort of ubuntu-minimal, etc type of ISO install image CD available? (for a special project). I've given up on trying to use the ubuntu-cdimage tools to create my own from scratch :-(
[21:15] <Maletor> When I try to remove packages with Synaptic I get a lot of artifacts because not all the dependencies get destroyed. What should I do about this?
[21:16] <ameya> calwig, ideally you should have left some free space for partition on that HDD for installing ubuntu
[21:16] <Diverdude> lgc, i have lenovo t61p with dual core...should be good....but i think ubuntu is rather laggy anyway
[21:16] <guntbert> !minimal | tweakt
[21:16] <calwig> So what I have done is boot a Live DVD Ubuntu 9.10 version on this computer with the new 400gb hdd. Session comes up, click on the Install to HDD and when I get to the hdd section, it seems that the partitioner does not seem to see the journaling system (I presume thats what it is) or it cannot write to the drive directly.
[21:16] <tweakt> guntbert: THANKS!
[21:16] <airtonix> trijntje, i haven't tried this but : http://web.telia.com/~u88005282/sum/installation.html
[21:16] <ameya> Diverdude, that machine is more than enough
[21:16] <Polta> i've broken a package in apt-get it keeps saying The following packages will be REMOVED linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-16-generic
[21:16] <guntbert> tweakt: you're welcome :-)
[21:17] <calwig> ameya, the whole partition is ext2/3 so shouldnt I be able to install an OS this way?
[21:17] <calwig> not just an OS but Ubuntu (not XP/VISTA)
[21:17] <Polta> but when I try it fails as I already deleted the old kernel by hand how do I fix it?
[21:17] <airtonix> subspider, no samba is the linux implementation of windows networking.
[21:17] <urthmover> My F11 key stopped working in many of my apps (firefox, gnome-terminal, etc.) How can I test that the key is actually working and what can I do to resolve it?
[21:17] <tweakt> guntbert: do you know if that still uses debian-installer and can be modded (uck/preseed) ?
[21:17] <pfifo> ping
[21:17] <owner> I'm back
[21:17] <guntbert> urthmover: 1) start xev
[21:17] <Diverdude> ameya, yeah...but why is ubuntu then laggy on it?
[21:17] <guntbert> tweakt: soory - no idea
[21:17] <urthmover> guntbert: ok starting it now
[21:18] <fisicoecervello> i
[21:18] <tweakt> guntbert: well its 12MB, wont take long to find out :-)
[21:18] <int203> any major difference between initial grub2 install during karmic installation and grub2 installation after a later apt-get upgrade? it b0rked my bootloader
[21:19] <guntbert> urthmover: when that small window has the focus every keyboard/mouse event is reported
[21:19] <lgc> Diverdude, I also have the T60 with dual, but only Windoze there so far. But don't blame it on Ubuntu, it's the Xorg thing. It's some piece of old but continually updated piece of software with many many patches that make it a frankenstein. It's like Windows: flawed by design (I'm reflecting other's opinions here. I repeat I don't know a thing of Xorg).
[21:19] <Maletor> When I try to remove packages with Synaptic I get a lot of artifacts because not all the dependencies get destroyed. What should I do about this?
[21:19] <Diverdude> lgc, ahhh okay i see....i wonder if there is a way to replace Xorg with something better then
[21:20] <trijntje> airtonix, looks old :P But that program is in the repo now, ill try
[21:20] <urthmover> guntbert: ok I have it up and strangely both F7 and F11 are not reporting anything ..... very odd  (I'm going to test on my other OS to see if its the hardware
[21:20] <Polta> does anyone know how to fix my prob?
[21:21] <lgc> Diverdude, it's ingrained in Linux (and all unices). Hopefully GNOME or KDE would take over it's low-level functions and come up with a better thing.