[12:08] <ikonia> dblclutch: key does not check the password
[12:08] <Wulf> dblclutch: you don't need a password set to ssh with a key.
[12:08] <Guest20789> my webcam not recognize in ubuntu ...
[12:08] <dblclutch> that is right, it doesnt. but if you try ssh'ing to a user with no passwd set, its denied
[12:08] <Guest20789> my ubuntu is in virtual machine vmware ...
[12:09] <Wulf> bonney12: if you find out, tell me please :)
[12:09] <dblclutch> I was scratching my head for half a day on this. came across an article, and tried setting a password for a temp user I was testing with. this fixed the problem
[12:09] <bonney12> Wulf: You mean, if I find out how to fix it?
[12:09] <ikonia> dblclutch: works fine here
[12:09] <Wulf> bonney12: yep
[12:09] <bonney12> Damnit
[12:09] <Guest20789> :?
[12:09] <bonney12> I've tried everything I can find -.-
[12:09] <Guest20789> :(
[12:09] <Wulf> bonney12: did you try removing the cached files?
[12:10] <bonney12> like, rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/* ?
[12:10] <Wulf> dblclutch: check your sshd and pam config for strange options
[12:10] <Wulf> bonney12: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[12:10] <jack-> don't kill the partial dir
[12:10] <Wulf> jack-: why not? :)
[12:10] <jack-> apt will grunt
[12:10] <Guest20789> what is gcc?
[12:11] <jack-> a c compiler
[12:11] <Guest20789> my webcam not work here ... what should i do?
[12:11] <Wulf> Guest20789: sell it on ebay
[12:12] <jack-> eat some KCN
[12:12] <Guest20789> i install cheese but no picture show in it ...
[12:12] <ikonia> Guest20789: it doesn't work because you are using vmware, and you've not setup a method to link the physical hardware of your web cam to the virtual machine running linux
[12:12] <Guest20789> i have asus laptop...
[12:12] <bonney12> Wulf: now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/Hbi3v9U3
[12:12] <Guest20789> hmmm....
[12:12] <scratchy> Hello everybody
[12:12] <Wulf> bonney12: what jack- said. :)
[12:13] <bonney12> Wulf: "Eat some KCN"?
[12:13] <Guest20789> how i can setup my vmware ?
[12:13] <scratchy> I got a question, What program can I use to time the start of starting another app
[12:13] <Wulf> bonney12: no :)
[12:13] <jack-> heh
[12:13] <vorburger> scratchy, use "time ..."
 ????
[12:13] <scratchy> I want certain log files to be mailed at certain times
[12:13] <scratchy> oh that simple huh
[12:13] <vorburger> scratchy, google for "cron" (or "cron jobs") and you'll find what you need
[12:13] <scratchy> :)
[12:14] <scratchy> thanks a million
 how i can set up my VM for webcam ...?
[12:14] <Guest20789> Do U know it ?
[12:14] <Wulf> jack-: I just removed all regular files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and did apt-get update without problems
[12:15] <Guest20789> :(
[12:15] <Guest20789> :'(
[12:15] <hakon_> Hi, ich habe LM17 installiert und bin begeistert. Leider funktioniert der zugriff auf Bilder auf dem NAS Server nicht.  Warum?
[12:15] <Wulf> bonney12: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[12:15] <Wulf> !de
[12:15] <Wulf> hakon_: ^
 do U know how i can solve my problem ?
[12:16] <Wulf> Guest20789: no.
[12:16] <bonney12> Wulf: I'm just back to the same place that I was at before, with the whole Hash Sum Mismatch thing.
[12:16] <bonney12> Would it be worth giving a reinstall a go?
 ?
[12:16] <bonney12> I've literally just installed it so I could just reinstall with ease
[12:17] <ikonia> Guest20789: please stop saying my name
[12:17] <Guest20789> Do U know ?
[12:17] <Guest20789> ok
[12:17] <jack-> hakon_, bin auch lm17-nutzer ;)
[12:17] <Guest20789> U can not solve my problem .....
[12:17] <Guest20789> :|
[12:17] <jack-> und hochzufrieden
[12:17] <ikonia> Guest20789: I do not reward people with help who just keep asking over and over and over
[12:18] <Guest20789> ok
[12:18] <Wulf> bonney12: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/972077 ?
[12:18] <Guest20789> balad nisin
[12:18] <Guest20789> ok
[12:18] <hakon_> Sorry, thought it was multi lingual. Anyway, installed LM17 and noticed that I cannot open jpeg  files stored on my NAS server. All previous versions accessed and displayed it correctly. Any idea why?
[12:18] <Wulf> bonney12: are you behind a (transparent) proxy server?
[12:18] <bonney12> Wulf: will take a look at it now
[12:18] <bonney12> No I'm not
[12:19] <ice9> the CPU fan is spinning constantly at low RPM however there isn't a process  that is consuming the CPU in top!
[12:19] <Guest20789> what is mean it ($(INSTALL_PATH)) ?
[12:19] <ikonia> hakon_: what version of ubuntu is
[12:19] <ikonia> Guest20789: you've been told about this
[12:19] <ikonia> Guest20789: stop repeating the same question over and over
[12:19] <Guest20789> :|
[12:20] <ikonia> Guest20789: the truth is - you are not at a level where you can manage the open CV modules, so stop trying to use them until you understand better
[12:20] <hakon_> jack: ich bin auch sehr zufrieden, bis auf das Problem mit dem NAS server.
[12:20] <ikonia> hakon_: sorry, "what version of ubuntu is this"
[12:20] <gry> Guest20789: the $ means that it's a variable defined earlier in the file
[12:20] <jack-> hakon_, macht sinn, klar
[12:21] <hakon_> ikonia: It's Linux Mint 17
[12:21] <jack-> ikonia, lm17 is based on ubuntu-trusty
[12:21] <Guest20789> tnx <gry>
[12:21] <ikonia> hakon_: ok, so not for this channel then, try the mint support resources
[12:21] <brainwash> this isn't the linux mint support channel
[12:21] <brainwash> !mint
[12:21] <gry> it's ok :)
[12:22] <Wulf> bonney12: can you show me your sources.list?
[12:22] <hakon_> Thanks over and out
[12:22] <Guest20789> what is mean it ?
[12:22] <Guest20789> rm
[12:22] <Wulf> bonney12: with all empty / comment lines removed
[12:22] <bonney12> Wulf: sure, one moment
[12:24] <Guest20789> what is a .o file?
[12:24] <jack-> object file
[12:24] <Guest20789> how can open a .o file?
[12:24] <dblclutch> Wulf: do you know where I can find a default sshd_config file for Ubuntu 14.04
[12:24] <jack-> usually written by a compiler or so
[12:25] <Wulf> dblclutch: in your openssh package?
[12:25] <karthik> hii
[12:25] <karthik> can someone tell me how best to learn linux
[12:25] <karthik> i am a newbie :-(
[12:25] <Wulf> karthik: ask Guest20789 and do the opposite.
[12:25] <dblclutch> checked /etc/ssh/ but there was only the one I edited :(
[12:26] <karthik> Wulf: :-)
[12:26] <Wulf> karthik: learning by doing and rtfm.
[12:26] <Guest20789> U are very loooooooooooooos
[12:26] <Guest20789> WuLt
[12:26] <karthik> rtfm?
[12:26] <Wulf> karthik: and google for words you don't know
[12:26] <karthik> ok..
[12:26] <Pessimist> Guest20789, .o files are in binary. The proper way to edit them is to edit the source code and recompile
[12:27] <tracyone> I can't find time.h in /usr/include/sys,but the the c source file include <sys/time.h>
[12:27] <Pessimist> tracyone, find / -iname 'time.h'
 do U know open cv ?
[12:27] <Guest20789> tnx
[12:28] <karthik> Abhishek_ :hi
[12:28] <Wulf> tracyone: /usr/include is not the only location your compiler may look for includes.
 why my webcam not work ... kho help me please ....
[12:28] <Guest20789> :)
[12:29] <bonney12> Wulf: apologies for the delay, pastebin.com/yAc0Zr4i
[12:29] <bonney12> http://pastebin.com/yAc0Zr4i *
[12:30] <tracyone> locate time.h | grep '/sys/'
[12:30] <tracyone> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/time.h
[12:30] <tracyone> /usr/lib/syslinux/com32/include/sys/time.h
[12:31] <Guest20789> ?
[12:31] <tracyone> which one?
[12:33] <Guest20789> lpconfig?
[12:33] <Guest20789> mean ??????????????????
[12:33] <Guest20789> ????
[12:33] <ikonia> Guest20789: you cannot use open cv - you are not at a level where you understand enough of the basics
[12:33] <Guest20789> ldconfig
[12:34] <ikonia> Guest20789: please stop asking what every line in the install script does
[12:34] <Wulf> bonney12: what is the size / sh1sum of /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_source_Sources or maybe you can upload the file somewhere?
[12:34] <Guest20789> i did a project in steganography with opencv
[12:34] <Guest20789> :P
[12:34] <Guest20789> but now i want to use my webcam ....

[12:35] <Guest20789> :)))
[12:35] <bonney12> Wulf: that file doesn't exist for me,
[12:35] <Wulf> bonney12: but it says "Hash Sum mismatch"?
[12:35] <bonney12> this one: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_source_Sources.decomp.FAILED
[12:35] <bonney12> does ^
[12:36] <Wulf> bonney12: any other files in partial/?
[12:36] <bonney12> Yeah, there's 7 of them, do you want me to tell you which?
[12:37] <Wulf> bonney12: yeah, I'm trying to understand what's happening there
[12:37] <bonney12> Wulf: In a pastebin or just here?
[12:37] <Wulf> bonney12: pastebin
[12:37] <Wulf> bonney12: I had the same problem a few days ago but didn't bother to debug it
[12:38] <bonney12> Ah right
[12:38] <bonney12> Wulf: http://pastebin.com/UihdTaA7
[12:38] <Wulf> bonney12: ls -l and sha1sum please? :)
[12:39] <bonney12> Wulf: The sha1sum of every one of them?
[12:39] <Wulf> bonney12: yeah
[12:42] <bonney12> Wulf: http://pastebin.com/t1QDYc2i
[12:47] <john_rambo> By mistake I selected "no configuration" on the "Postfix Configuration" page during the installation of psad ....How to I change it to "Internet Site" now ?
[12:47] <Wulf> bonney12: interesting, the file size of archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_source_Sources.decomp.FAILED matches, but the sha1sum does not
[12:47] <Wulf> bonney12: can you send me the file?
[12:47] <bonney12> Give me a moment, I need to try something
[12:47] <Wulf> john_rambo: try dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[12:49] <MagicSpud> hello is it possible to burn two live OS in the same dvd?
[12:49] <Wulf> MagicSpud: yes, with some effort. But who uses DVDs nowaydays? :)
[12:51] <mexi_d3> MagicSpud: Bearing in mind the cost of DVDR media I kind of this is a lot of effort to save $0.002
[12:52] <IdleOne> MagicSpud: search for Multiboot ISO
[12:52] <john_rambo> Wulf: Done ... Thanks a lot
[12:53] <bonney12> Wulf: you're gonna think I'm really stupid xD I forgot the original reason I was using apt in the first place - to download the packages for wireless USB dongles - so I had connected my computer up to
[12:53] <bonney12> ANOTHER laptop, rather than directly to my router
[12:54] <bonney12> so technically I was behind a proxy without realising it -.-
[12:54] <Wulf> bonney12: ... so ?
[12:54] <Wulf> bonney12: by proxy I mean http proxy
[12:54] <bonney12> Right but now the problems fixed themselves when I connected it directly to my router
[12:54] <Wulf> hmm
[12:54] <bonney12> No more Hash Sum Mismatch, I can install packages now
[12:56] <bonney12> Wulf: Thank you a lot for your help though, and sorry for wasting your time
[12:56] <Wulf> bonney12: np
[12:57] <bonney12> Thanks again, see you!
[12:57] <Wulf> bonney12: do you still have that broken file? :)
[12:57] <bonney12> No, I removed them
[12:57] <bonney12> Sorry :/
[12:58] <bonney12> Anyway, thanks again and goodbye ^^
[13:03] <janslow> john_rambo sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[13:03] <janslow> sorry, just saw someone answered
[13:07] <clevas> When i install ubuntu along side win 8.1 do i put the boot loader in the same partition as the win8.1 bootloader?
[13:08] <clevas> like is windows is in sda1 do i put the ubuntu loader in sda1 also
[13:08] <clevas> is=if
[13:11] <mexi_d3> clevas: The installer will do this automatically. Do you have a reason to configure this manually?
[13:13] <kimmy> Hi, I just upgraded my lubuntu install in an attempt to fix the OS not recognizing my soundcard... still nothing? aplay -l just says List of Playback Hardware Devices and doesn't list any
[13:13] <kimmy> ideas?
[13:13] <clevas> well i had stuff on stb
[13:13] <clevas> i will try again. I went into advanced options
[13:14] <mexi_d3> kimmy: does `lspci` show it?
[13:15] <kimmy> yep "00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
[13:15] <kimmy> "
[13:16] <nashant> anyone know where I can get libiconv.so.2 without building it from source?
[13:17] <kimmy> mexi_d3 though I get the idea that the realtek alc887 chipset is supposed to show up in this list too?
[13:17] <OerHeks> !find libiconv
[13:18] <nashant> OerHeks: I tried that
[13:18] <OerHeks> nashant, not sure that is the package
[13:21] <lamrz> hello everyone, my disk space is free, but the properties show 99GB used, how can this be solved?
[13:21] <evon> Before I reinstalled ubuntu i copied my entire home directory elsewhere.  Now that I've copied it back, i've realized that all the permissions for my files are wrong.  How do I change the permissions so they work on my new installation?
[13:21] <evon> Lamrz check your trash
[13:21] <lamrz> evon, the trash is much smaller..
[13:22] <OerHeks> lamrz, what does df -h say ?
[13:24] <lamrz> OerHeks, it says also that 58% and 68% are used (I have the problem with two partitions)
[13:25] <lamrz> but the folder is empty, trash is only 3GB..
[13:25] <lamrz> I mean both partitions are empty
[13:26] <OerHeks> lamrz, so what is the issue, you formatted/partitioned a disk, and now missing 99 gb?
[13:27] <varunendra> lamrz, just give us pastebin link of 'df -h'
[13:28] <lamrz> OerHeks, no. each one is the same partition. when there is nothing saved on it, it says over 50% used for each.
[13:28] <lamrz> ok
[13:29] <lamrz> OerHeks, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7607809/
[13:30] <lamrz> I mean sdd1 and sdd3
[13:31] <lamrz> varunendra, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7607809/
[13:32] <varunendra> lamrz, does 'du -h | sort -h' show where the space is used?
[13:33] <lamrz> varunendra, yes, the lines are racing through the command line when I did du -h
[13:33] <varunendra> :)
[13:33] <varunendra> lamrz, let them stop, the largest files/directory would be listed at the bottom.
[13:34] <lamrz> varunendra, if you mean at the end of the output, it is not so, they are arbitrarily listed, not in ascending or descending order of size
[13:35] <lamrz> varunendra, but I'm trying using | less
[13:35] <varunendra> lamrz, it means you didn't pipe the output to 'sort'. The full command was - "du -h | sort -h"
[13:35] <lamrz> ah ok
[13:35] <lamrz> sorry
[13:36] <lamrz> varunendra, the largest file is 458MB, and there are only a handful of MB-size files..
[13:37] <lamrz> varunendra, I dont know how it might have affected, but this happened after I deleted dd image files from these partitions
[13:38] <varunendra> lamrz, did you move them to the trash or skip it (really deleted)?
[13:38] <lamrz> varunendra, first trash, then delete from trash
[13:39] <DrFoo_> I am getting an error when I go to update packages: Requires Installation of Untrusted Packages
[13:39] <DrFoo_> How do I fix
[13:39] <nuke_> hi all. I have problems with chrome in 14.04 . Especially when i use youtube big videos like 60 minutes it starts to get slower and slower and i notcie CPU to be like 90%
[13:39] <varunendra> lamrz, if the data is not sensitive (be careful there), can we see the output of "sudo du -h | sort -h" ?
[13:40] <varunendra> lamrz, be back in a few minutes..
[13:41] <lamrz> varunendra, I'm a bit wary of that, it is in the end the list of my desktop content, I guess?
[13:47] <evon> Before I reinstalled ubuntu i copied my entire home directory elsewhere.  Now that I've copied it back, i've realized that all the permissions for my files are wrong.  How do I change the permissions so they work on my new installation?
[13:49] <clone1110> andrew ?
[13:52] <varunendra> lamrz, try this recipe to find the total usage in MiB - find /media/muv -type f -printf "%s\n" | awk '{s+=$1} END {print s/1024/1024}'
[13:53] <Pessimist> evon, write a simple script that changes them :)
[13:53] <Pessimist> evon, there are probably tons of examples on the Internet
[13:53] <lamrz> varunendra, an editor opened when I typed it in
[13:54] <evon> pessimist, good idea but  no idea how to do that or get that
[13:54] <lamrz> editor line, I mean
[13:54] <pekko> evon: man chmod, or just go to /home and do chmod 700 -R username:username *, but it has one problem, it makes all files +x :P so not a great solution
[13:54] <varunendra> lamrz, maybe you didn't type the closing single quote (')
[13:54] <subz3r0> for  just seeing how much space is used. you can install "ncdu" and use it in the given path
[13:54] <lamrz> varunendra, oh yes, I didnt..:)
[13:55] <varunendra> :)
[13:55] <varunendra> lamrz, is it anywhere close to 87040 ?
[13:55] <lamrz> yes. 86273
[13:55] <lamrz> varunendra, yes. 86273
[13:55] <evon> pekko why is +x a problem?
[13:56] <evon> pekko I don't even kno what that is lol
[13:56] <varunendra> lamrz, then properties isn't telling lies. The bunch of files total upto 85 GB :p
[13:56] <lamrz> varunendra, but where could the files be?
[13:57] <lamrz> varunendra, I found it!
[13:57] <subz3r0> lamrz: sudo apt-get install ncdu
[13:57] <lamrz> varunendra, subz3r0, I found it!
[13:57] <varunendra> lamrz, congrats!! :D
[13:58] <pekko> evon: *all* files are then executable, its dirty imo, i really would use a proper script, but then again some your files need to be +x to be executable (binaries for example)
[13:58] <lamrz> varunendra, yeah, eureka cry? there are two trash folders, one .Trash-0, one .Trash-1000...I overlooked checking .Trash-0! fool of me!
[13:58] <varunendra> lamrz, by the way, you can always rely on 'du -h <mount-point of desired partition> | sort -h'
[13:58] <varunendra> lamrz, confusion - happens all the time ;)
[13:58] <evon> pekko can you suggest any good scripts?
[14:00] <lamrz> varunendra, thank you for your help! :)
[14:01] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:01] <varunendra> Glad I could :)
[14:01]  * varunendra slips half a cookie to OerHeks
[14:02] <Pessimist> evon, for file in $(ls /dir); do <...>; done
[14:02] <OerHeks> as a teamplayer, i say cheers!
[14:02] <clevas> fix for grub rescue with win8.1 dual boot?
[14:02] <Wiz_KeeD> does anyone know how to use a pgp?
[14:03] <lamrz> varunendra, prompt request of help! :)
[14:03] <evon> Pessimist thanks but can you elaborate some more? I'm a newb at this
[14:03] <varunendra> lamrz, ??
[14:04] <varunendra> clevas, have you seen this thread yet - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 ??
[14:05] <lamrz> I deleted the files from .Trash-0 folder, and they were moved to -Trash-1000 folder. there, each time I delete them, they instantly resurrect like this: deletedfile.1, deletedfile1.1, deletedfile1.1.1. and so on...
[14:05] <varunendra> lamrz, just select them, and press 'Shift+Del' to skip trash.
[14:05] <varunendra> lamrz, or simply use 'rm' command
[14:08] <gregor3005> hi, i'm interesting to install ubuntu on a tablet, is this possible? which tablet is good for it? (i have no tablet currently) and is there a special channel for this?
[14:10] <varunendra> !touch | gregor3005
[14:10] <gregor3005> varunendra: thank you
[14:10] <varunendra> np :)
[14:11] <ubuntubox> hello, I have ran this command, sudo apt-get purge qemu*, to remove qemu and its dependencies, will it remove any preinstalled apps or something as well? (just curious)
[14:11] <dw1> ubuntubox: it should tell you and ask for confirmation
[14:12] <dw1> ubuntubox: i hope :p
[14:12] <lamrz> varunendra, thank you again! it is now mostly freed, it still shows an 8GB used space, but the free space is enough for me to work with, for now..maybe I find out soon why it shows that..
[14:12] <ubuntubox> dw1, well qemu literally installs lots of packages kinda hard to track :D
[14:13] <varunendra> lamrz, you can use 'sudo' with 'du' to see files/dirs that may be readable only by root.
[14:13] <ubuntubox> oh yes a better question may be, is anything related to "qemu" is preinstalled with ubuntu?
[14:13] <dw1> ubuntubox: its not installed by default so shouldnt touch anything too important i dont think
[14:13] <varunendra> lamrz, or you can run the gui program "Disk Usage Analyzer" (command - sudo baobab) to do that via GUI
[14:13] <dw1> ubuntubox: i dont have qemu
[14:15] <OerHeks> lamrz, an hdd shows 'free space', i guess your hdd has got a buffer of 8 gb
[14:15] <ubuntubox> I actually tried that command on a fresh ubuntu system as well and it was showing 0 for everything, so nothing to remove I guess.
[14:15] <ubuntubox> dw1, and thanks anyway :)
[14:15] <OerHeks> lamrz, as any disk/memory needs an adress, so does the cache of your hdd
[14:16] <varunendra> lamrz, are you aware that 5% is reserved for root on ext partitions?
[14:16] <daniel31> from an ubuntu prompt is there a way to download and install a new distro? (scrapping whatever was there before)
[14:16] <dw1> ubuntubox: i think apt will protect anything still in use.. thats its purpose
[14:16] <floridsdorf> hi
[14:16] <lamrz> OerHeks, holy gosh, that is a lot, isnt it?
[14:17] <OerHeks> 8gb is a lot yes, i wonder too
[14:18] <ubuntubox> dw1, Ok got it now kinda :) looks like I have to read apt documentation
[14:18] <varunendra> daniel31, you can download anything with 'wget', but installing from a running system can be a tricky. The only way I know is this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[14:18] <Pupeno> can locate find files by owner and group?
[14:18] <lamrz> OerHeks, I will check this in more detail in a bit..may I ask one more thing?
[14:19] <varunendra> the channel is meant for questions I guess, lamrz  :p
[14:19] <lamrz> do I need to add "conv=noerror" when I create a dd image of a partition?
[14:21] <gry> if you want it to silently continue when an error happens
[14:21] <Pessimist> lamrz, https://superuser.com/questions/622541/what-does-dd-conv-sync-noerror-do
[14:21] <lamrz> varunendra, true :)
[14:21] <Squall5668> Pupeno: use -user or -group in find
[14:21] <ubuntubox> Pupeno, yes with -group flag
[14:21] <OerHeks> lamrz, yes, that will solve the error of last sector usage
[14:22] <lamrz> OerHeks, oh, ok..would it be placed after 'bs=1M' in the command?
[14:25] <lamrz> OerHeks, ok, I found examples, it is written after it (though maybe it doesnt matter?) :)
[14:30] <Pupeno> Squall5668: I meant with the locate command, not with find.
[14:32] <phillyj> anyone familiar with updating the MLT framework to the latest on? apt-get doesn't cut it
[14:33] <holstein> phillyj: it should cut it if you add sources. otherwise, apt-get just updates to the most current version in your sources, and by default, ubuntu is not a rolling release
[14:33] <ikonia> "doesn't cut it" ?
[14:33] <phillyj> it doesn't update it to latest one
[14:33] <ikonia> phillyj: the lastest one, or the latest one in the repo
[14:33] <ikonia> could you actually try to define a problem / failure ?
[14:33] <holstein> phillyj: its not intended to
[14:33] <Squall5668> Pupeno: Sorry. I'm not aware of a way to do this with locate
 no, but find can
[14:36] <phillyj> ikonia: i want to try the manual install; I have 0.7.6 but the latest MLT is 0.8.6. I am hoping this will fix my "no audio" problems with kdenlive and openshot
[14:36] <ikonia> "hope" ? anye reason to believe it will ?
[14:36] <MagePsycho> how to send email via sendmail command line? i have an issue that the mail is not going via sendmail, how to test
[14:37] <ikonia> manually installing is a huge risk of core components,
[14:37] <ikonia> MagePsycho: "mail"
[14:37] <ikonia> or mailx
[14:37] <ikonia> ubuntu doesn't run sendmail
[14:37] <holstein> phillyj: i would address any issues with openshot there.. with openshot.. where did you get the version of openshot you are using? is it the default, officially supported ubuntu version?
[14:38] <phillyj> holstein: i just installed openshot today using apt-get, to make sure my "no audio" issue was not a kdenlive problem
[14:39] <robynata> :-!
[14:39] <holstein> phillyj: did you add a PPA, friend? apt-get is just the package manager.. where did the package come from?
[14:40] <phillyj> holstein: did not add a ppa
[14:40] <phillyj> installed openshot 1.4.0-1ubunutu1, according to synaptic
[14:40] <holstein> phillyj: let a volunteer here know if you need help with the audio issue.. i suggest not changing parts of the system to try and "fix" something like that..
[14:40] <ikonia> !info openshot
[14:41] <ikonia> phillyj: looks like a different version than is in the ubuntu repos
[14:41] <ikonia> phillyj: 1.4.3-1-1 is in the trust repo (are you using trusty)
[14:41] <phillyj> ooo, i think i am in trusty
[14:41] <phillyj> no
[14:41] <phillyj> sry
[14:41] <phillyj> i am in precise
[14:41] <ikonia> !info openshot precise
[14:42] <holstein> phillyj: you may simply want to try and upgrade to 14.04..
[14:42] <ikonia> ok, that looks better
[14:43] <phillyj> holstein: i am reluctant to upgrade at the moment, since I am not sure if I would break my settings, that took so long for me to configure properly
[14:43] <phirex> I am getting this error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' ... Entering rescue mode... I strongly believe that if i was able to choose the older kernel it wouldn't happen, but holding down shift doesn't bring up grub menu
[14:43] <holstein> phillyj: try it live, and see
[14:43] <shunya_chakra> hi is there any good link or tutorial for editing notification icons of ubuntu pannel?
[14:43] <phirex> is there anything i can try and do without a live CD?
[14:43] <holstein> phillyj: you should not be afraid that your system will break, but, assured that it *will* break, and have a proper backup
[14:44] <holstein> phillyj: all hard drives fail..
[14:44] <andlabs> Hi. I want to test this patch, which claims to fix a bug I found in package oxygen-gtk3 - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333983#c4. I did apt-get source to download the source and applied the patch - is there any special procedure for me to build the package as it stands and install it, even temporarily, for this bugfix test? Thanks.
[14:44] <phillyj> holstein: I think you were refering to phirex?
[14:44] <phillyj> about the breaking hdd?
[14:44] <holstein> phillyj: no.. i was talking about your reluctance to upgrade to 14.04..
[14:44] <phillyj> o
[14:45] <ikonia> phillyj: if you are concerned about your setup under NO circustances should you try to install anything outside the package manager
[14:45] <phillyj> ok
[14:45]  * holstein +1 with ikonia 's statement about out of repo packages as well ^
[14:46] <MagePsycho> ikonia: why the mail doesn’t work if we use the email with the same domain where the site is hosted?
[14:47] <phillyj> so, if I use a trusty live cd, will I be able to run kdenlive and test it out? I am not sure if live CD lets you do more than run programs already on the iso?
[14:47] <holstein> phillyj: try it and see.. i find, if i have the available ram, and on a system where i am expecting to do video editing, i would have the ram..
[14:48] <varunendra> phillyj, you can try as many programs as the RAM allows, only they would be temporary (lost at reboot - obviously) if it is not a 'Persistent' live.
[14:48] <phillyj> ok, i understand
[14:48] <phillyj> till next time, thx guys
[14:49] <holstein> phillyj: on my production machine, i have 2 partitions on the hard drive where i install operating systems.. i basically run both LTS versions.. for example, i wiped my 10.04 partitions with 14.04 when it released.. i do no use 12.04 now, but its there
[14:49] <tbtptb> Is it possible to make a swap and extend the RAM?
[14:49] <morph> nice
[14:49] <tbtptb> or it just be another mount
[14:49] <morph> mempo released a grsecurity kernel
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> !swap | tbtptb
[14:50] <varunendra> tbtptb, perfectly possible, only the swap would be much slower compared to RAM
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> varunendra: how about swap on ssd+ ubuntu? would that make it any faster?
[14:51] <holstein> not faster than ram.. potentially comparable..
[14:51] <varunendra> lotuspsychje, I don't have the experience, but based on theoretical knowledge, it can't be nearly as fast as RAM :)
[14:51] <julien1> hello everybody
[14:52] <wols> varunendra: it's a much much slower than ram, but that doesn't matter. swap is still good for you
[14:52] <wols> and it really makes your system faster
[14:52] <wols> -a
[14:53] <varunendra> wols, depends on how often a user goes into "Brownian Motion" through heavy applications :p
[14:53] <shunya_chakra> exit
[14:53] <shunya_chakra> oops sorry
[14:53] <wols> varunendra: no
[14:53] <tbtptb> On the page, it mentions swap as a partition.  I wonder if it can be a file instead, where it is easier to define the size
[14:53] <whoever> hi all, I need some help, I am running smartmontools, and the log file sayst that it termintad the job because of temp, but the temp change was not met , can someone assist
[14:53] <julien1> I have a questoin about SSD and trimming. Some tutorial recommand to run "fstrim" command everyday via anacron. Trusty runs "fstrim" once a week via cron.weekly. Do you known is very usefull ans optimised to run "fstrim" once a day ?
[14:53] <whoever> pastebin syslog http://pastebin.com/qqhHbthj
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !ssd | julien1
[14:54] <whoever> julien1: i wouldn't
[14:54] <holstein> tbtptb: if you are interested in improving the speed and performance of your system, set up a properly configured swap partition
[14:55] <tbtptb> I don't mind about losing performance.  I am more interested in the system losing space.
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> julien1: check here for other nice ssd tweaks: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[14:55] <holstein> tbtptb: you will lose the space regardless.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042946
[14:56] <holstein> tbtptb: if you are on a system where 2gb's of swap space is a deal breaker, i say, you have larger issues than a lack of swap space
[14:56] <varunendra> holstein, lol!
[14:56] <whoever> is it better to set a bi-weekly then a weekly trim
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> julien1: i have many enabled, trim on rc.local, swappiness tweak, quiet splash off, fstab tweak
[14:58] <sydney> holstein: True!!
[14:58] <whoever> lotuspsychje: is there a best practices on using fstrim? ie: weekly, bi-weekly, montly ?
[14:58] <julien1> rc.local is a good solution if we often reboot the PC
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> whoever: not sure whats reccomended, but i use every boot trim
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> whoever: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[14:59] <tbtptb> Overall, I'm curious about using a file on the hard drive as swap space, maybe as compressed.  I'm also curious about other media as well.  For example, would it rapidly decrease the life of a thumb drive?
[14:59] <morph> hey how can i check what is using port 80?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[15:00] <julien1> netstat -anpe | grep :80
[15:00] <ni190943> :)
[15:00] <holstein> tbtptb: do what you like, friend.. the links above show how to do what you are asking, as well as a properly configured swap partition
[15:00] <morph> I need the PID for it julien1
[15:01] <holstein> tbtptb: you will not want to use a compressed swap file to try and speed up a system, or supplement the ram
[15:01] <whoever> London3D: i hope you not refering to adding discard to fstab, everyone says that is slow, and adding unnecisarry r/w to the drive
[15:01] <ikonia> swap of any sort will not speed up a system
[15:01] <ikonia> if you are swapping, you are out of ram, which means if you need more swap, you are having more problems (more slow down)
[15:01] <holstein> swap is not the same as memory.. its a compromise
[15:02] <tbtptb> Thanks holstein.
[15:02] <tbtptb> ikonia: that's where planning comes in.  like, if you know you will use less than, say, 10 GB
[15:03] <holstein> tbtptb: the defaults meet the needs of most users. have you tried? if not, just use the default partitioning and see if it meets your needs
[15:03] <wols> ikonia: it will. there are many pages which are allocated, loaded but then never ever touched again. you can swap out those and use the memory for better purposes
[15:03] <tbtptb> In some cases, I won't be able to use partitioning
[15:04] <holstein> tbtptb: no software tweaks like that will make hardware any faster or better.. you just might be able to manage the system in a way that will make bettter or more appropriate use of the system resources
[15:04] <holstein> tbtptb: im talking about specificially in *this* case..
[15:04] <tbtptb> gotcha
[15:04] <holstein> tbtptb: in the other "some" cases, you will have learned by using and testing the sane defaults that 99% of users find acceptable
[15:04] <ikonia> wols: swapping out unused ram is of cours ea good thing, however adding swap to make your machine faster to make up for a "lack of ram" as this person is doing will not help
[15:06] <sydney> Unless you dont have enough swapp space in the first place ikonia. ;)
[15:06] <amazonas> ..
[15:06] <ikonia> sydney: that seems unlikley based on his description of th eproblem
[15:07] <Asterisks> holy crap, last time i was in this channel there were only like 600 users at a time.
[15:08] <sydney> Asterisks: 1713 at the moment. :D
[15:08] <sydney> 1714
[15:08] <Asterisks> I know right, it's insane
[15:08] <Asterisks> I've been planning an ubuntu LTSP cluster for a local grade school, going to present it on tuesday
[15:08] <edge226> I am having an issue mounting a .img file in ubuntu. It seems to get pissed @ /dev/loop1
[15:09] <edge226> Asterisks: LTSP?
[15:09] <Asterisks> Linux Terminal Server Project
[15:10] <mcnesium> can i make an ext4 partition on the new drive that will be mounted to a raid1, where the corresponding partition on the old drive is ext3?
[15:10] <edge226> Asterisks: is there a difference between a LTSP and just running servers?
[15:10] <Asterisks> basically you can boot a computer off the network with a minimal OS (think a really thinned down ubuntu liveCD) and the programs run on the LTSP application servers
[15:10] <Asterisks> all the hardware the school currently has is old (we're talking 8+ years old still running windows XP)
[15:10] <Asterisks> and can't run a full ubuntu by itself, and either way installing ubuntu 100 times isn't exactly expedient
[15:11] <holstein> Asterisks: you can image as you please
[15:11] <OerHeks> Asterisks, sounds like you need Edubuntu
[15:11] <Asterisks> probably will install the edubuntu packages
[15:11] <cym2> hi :-)
[15:11] <Asterisks> all edubuntu is is some theming and a couple software packages, i cal install it on normal ubuntu
[15:12] <Asterisks> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-edu-primary
[15:12] <holstein> i found it was too much of a change from the XP work flow.. the school i was working with didnt even understand a networks share, and how to leave the power on to a server.. so i did seperate machines
[15:13] <tbtptb> I thought XP days had networking too.  I remember FTPing stuff and sharing an internet connection
[15:14] <Asterisks> True, it will be a change, but at the same time so would windows 7/8
[15:14] <edge226> Anyone have any idea why I am getting this? http://celps.org/p3un6
[15:14] <Asterisks> which would be the other director
[15:14] <Asterisks> direction*
[15:14] <Asterisks> and it would cost 3x as more, if not more than that
[15:14] <daftykins> Asterisks: just reading back on some messages there, that school is in a really bad way =|
[15:14] <Asterisks> It's an illinois school, the budget in IL atm is in the shitter.
[15:14] <john_rambo> How to solve this mail issue ? http://pastebin.com/w5NDYQ5c
[15:15] <Asterisks> It's where I went to grade school, the current computer lab they have was istalled when I was in kindergarten (I'm 17 now) and hasn't been upgraded once
[15:15] <daftykins> john_rambo: use the correct binary...
[15:15] <Asterisks> daftykins: pretty much, I'm hoping to bring them at least to a workable level
[15:15] <ikonia> john_rambo: stop following blindly commands from the internet
[15:16] <holstein> xp is workable.. i find you really need to address major changes in work flow and habits
[15:16] <Asterisks> holstein: you forget that windows XP is not longer supported by microsoft, it's a security black hole now
[15:16] <Asterisks> no longer*
[15:17] <Asterisks> sorry about the typing mistakes, I just woke up :L
[15:17] <holstein> Asterisks: and, please note, im not suggesting its use.. im just stating it *is* workable
[15:17] <john_rambo> daftykins: ikonia I am trying to test psad's mail delivery as suggested here http://www.cipherdyne.com/psad/docs/faq.html#sendmail
[15:17] <holstein> Asterisks: they (microsoft) actually *are* providing updates to some who want to pay..
[15:17] <tbtptb> edge226: that looks similar to what I've seen when mounting a still-used windows 8 partition.  Can't mount rw.
[15:17] <ikonia> john_rambo: that guide is nothing to do with yoursetup
[15:18] <edge226> tbtptb: its a .img file. Usually you get the error and it mounts RO. All good thats all I need. But it just fails.
[15:18] <holstein> Asterisks: but, i am only wishing you well.. nothing about ubuntu or linux is preventing you and your school from using and benefiting from its use
[15:18] <sydney> XP is unsupported,but 27% of people(something around there) are still using it. :D My mom is using it yet,and it is still going strong.
[15:18] <tbtptb> Is the image on such a partition?
[15:18] <jack-> weird...should be downloading from archive.ubuntu.org or so, but netsat says likho.canonical.com
[15:19] <jack-> and that host/box is crap slow :/
[15:19] <holstein> Asterisks: i found, when i have migrating individuals and schools and companies *before* xp was EOL that trying to give the same experience as the manufacturer did with xp helped
[15:19] <daftykins> jack-: so pick another mirror
[15:19] <varunendra> john_rambo, the 'mail' program is in /usr/bin directory by the way..
[15:19] <Asterisks> holstein: elaborate on the "same experience" comment?
[15:19] <zoltankodaly> hi everyone
[15:19] <ikonia> john_rambo: VERY important, do NOT blindly copy commands from the internet
[15:19] <holstein> Asterisks: sure.. moving schools from xp to ubuntu
[15:19] <edge226> tbtptb: I downloaded the image, decompressed it and tried to mount it. It is not already mounted. I am unsure why it is freaking about /dev/loop1
[15:20] <ikonia> edge226: it needs a loop back device to mount an image
[15:20] <sydney> zoltankodaly: Hi!!
[15:20] <Z_ikaChan> fm
[15:20] <edge226> ikonia: meaning?
[15:20] <ikonia> edge226: that's why it's trying to use loop1
[15:20] <jack-> daftykins, you mean editing sources.list?
[15:20] <zoltankodaly> i can't install ubuntu on my pc, i put the image on an usb key with unetbotin, but when i start the install the screen goes black
[15:20] <edge226> ikonia: I know why, I dont know why its failing.
[15:20] <zoltankodaly> i've got 2 ati radeon r9 280x
[15:21] <holstein> !nomodeset | zoltankodaly
[15:21] <daftykins> jack-: only if your system is pure CLI, there is a mirror testing and picking function in the software sources program i think
[15:21] <ikonia> 16:19 < edge226> I am unsure why it is freaking about /dev/loop1
[15:21] <ikonia> edge226: that susggests you don't know why
[15:21] <holstein> zoltankodaly: i would consider testing the usb stick on other hardware as well... so you know its working or not
[15:21] <zoltankodaly> already used nomodeset
[15:21] <zoltankodaly> it's not effective
[15:21] <holstein> zoltankodaly: ok.. then, what is?
[15:21] <jack-> ok, i'll check
[15:21] <holstein> !md5 | zoltankodaly
[15:21] <Asterisks> holstein: what kind of experience is generally given by the manufacturer that you suggest I should try to give.
[15:21] <holstein> zoltankodaly: try and test the stick on a other machine, otherwise, you are assuming its working
[15:21] <zoltankodaly> already checked the hash
[15:21] <edge226> ikonia: I know why it needs it, I dont know why its not just mounting. I've never had this issue before. Although usually it is an iso instead of a img.
[15:21] <tbtptb> I'm not sure about this, but mount something else as RO /dev/loop1 and that as loop2 or later to see if the issue is actually /dev/loop.
[15:22] <zoltankodaly> it seems a problem of my pc
[15:22] <zoltankodaly> or at least, of my configuration
[15:22] <ikonia> edge226: so "invalid argument" seems a key bit of information as /dev/loop1 is being passed as an argment....
[15:22] <daftykins> jack-: 14.04 desktop yeah? i can guide you to where it is now as i've booted my VM
[15:22] <ikonia> edge226: "NTFS" suggests it's trying to mount it as NTFS
[15:22] <holstein> Asterisks: when that hardware was purchased, a company such as dell spent lots of resources making sure windows was supported and ran on the hardware they sold them.. i find you have to emulate that process in linux.. not just wiping and dropping off a machine, but testing everything and making sure all is well
[15:23] <edge226> ikonia: so what 'should' it be. It is a linux image I would normally write to a USB drive or something.
[15:23] <jack-> daftykins, linuxmint17-mate ;) sorry
[15:23] <holstein> Asterisks: also, support.. where do they get it? do they call you? make sure they know where you intend they ask...
[15:23] <daftykins> jack-: ok, you're aware Mint is not supported in here?
[15:23] <daftykins> !mint | jack-
[15:23] <Asterisks> holstein: I'll be working with their current hardware, but I'll also be on site and plan on testing thoroughly.
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> ive got an asus maximus vi extreme mobo, intel cpu, 2 ati r9 280x and 2 hd
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> memory is ok
[15:23] <ikonia> edge226: I don't know what that image is, I'd have to research what format its in
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> hd are ok
[15:23] <arcsky> hello i have here a laptop with ubuntu livecd.. how can i install vlc since apt-cache search vlc gives nothing..
[15:23] <Asterisks> holstein: and as far as support, I'll be the one they'd have to call, and I do plan on setting that up
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> (tested)
[15:24] <holstein> Asterisks: then, you need to re-consider the install per-machine, unless al the hardware is identical
[15:24] <krauser> hello there
[15:24] <jack-> bla, sure :) i'm only here because of stuff related to ubuntu
[15:24] <edge226> ikonia: it is used on an embedded arm device, I just wanted to grab some files off the ISO to get another partition working.
[15:24] <ikonia> edge226: that tells me nothing about the format, I'd have to look at what format/data storage is being used
[15:24] <Asterisks> holstein: the key will be to ensure the image the clients boot includes any drivers they require, which isn't hard
[15:25] <pakair> arcsky, couldnt you do sudo apt-get install vlc?
[15:25] <holstein> Asterisks: it actually can be impossible
[15:25] <arcsky> pakair: nope
[15:25] <holstein> Asterisks: you were not promised linux support for likely any of that hardware.. which can be challenging if soemthing is not supported out of the box well
[15:25] <arcsky> pakair: i need source list?
[15:25] <holstein> Asterisks: but, regardless, i need to run.. i will PM you my email if you have any questions.. cheers and good luck
[15:25] <daftykins> jack-: anyway, in *real* ubuntu, the system settings program has a 'software and updates' section, which lets you look at other 'download from:' sources, which in turn has a "select best server" option, by testing mirrors for speed and so on. perhaps you have something similar
[15:26] <Asterisks> holstein: you're almost never promised linux support, I've yet to find hardware that flat out would work with linux
[15:26] <varunendra> arcsky, are you connected to internet?
[15:26] <arcsky> varunendra: yes
[15:27] <arcsky> varunendra: apt-get update works fine
[15:27] <jack-> daftykins, i already found the option (configure software sources) in muon
[15:27] <edge226> ikonia: could I just explode the img file?
[15:27] <holstein> Asterisks: i have found *plenty". and its not the resposibility of linux to support the hardware.. and in a corporate enviironment, you may find hardware or software that is not supporting linux well, and i am only suggesting you be prepared for that
[15:27] <varunendra> arcsky, is 'universe' repository enabled while doing update?
[15:27] <ikonia> edge226: how would you "explode it" ?
[15:27] <ikonia> edge226: surly you'd need to know if/how it was compressed and how it's data is stored
[15:28] <edge226> ikonia: so im pretty much screwed as of getting the stuff off without having to dd it somewhere?
[15:28] <ikonia> edge226: who said anything about dd ?
[15:28] <Asterisks> holstein: all the hardware they have is (as I said) old and mass produced.  Both suggest that linux would have drivers floating around
[15:28] <tbtptb> edge226:  can't you read the data as ro?  you can still copy the files then?
[15:28] <ikonia> edge226: if you know the type of file it is, you can probably just mount it as a loop back device
[15:29] <edge226> ikonia: it would contain two partitions a fat and a ext4.
[15:29] <ikonia> edge226: if it's something like squashfs you'll need to mount it then unsquash the file system which normally happens as part of the boot process
[15:29] <edge226> ikonia: nope its not that.
[15:29] <arcsky> http://pastebin.com/MC4zQ75G
[15:29] <ikonia> edge226: it's not what ?
[15:29] <arcsky> varunendra: there u can see[5~
[15:29] <edge226> ikonia: its an image for an imbedded device, squashfs has nothing to do with it. I would be doing dd to a sd or emmc to get the img working.
[15:30] <clevas> My computer supports neither sucureboot nor uefi and ubuntu still wont boot up dual boot
[15:30] <tbtptb> I can remember a method in the distant past of mount individual partitions within a .img file
[15:30] <tbtptb> it involves offsets
[15:30] <ikonia> edge226: how do you know squashfs has nothing to do with it, squash FS is used in embeeded systems to save space
[15:30] <daftykins> tbtptb: sounds nasty
[15:30] <ikonia> edge226: you seem to be sure of what it is not, whithout having any idea of what it is
[15:31] <tbtptb> yeah, but that long ago, much was
[15:31] <ikonia> that doesn't seem possible
[15:31] <daftykins> arcsky: so the question comes to mind - why do you want to install VLC in a live session? :)
[15:31] <edge226> ikonia: I've done a scratch install. Pretty much the only piece I am missing is what command they used to write the image...
[15:31] <varunendra> arcsky, please check - Alt+F2 > "software-properties-gtk" > make sure "Universe" repository is enabled
[15:31] <pakair> arcsky, what error do you get when you  sudo apt-get install vlc?
[15:32] <arcsky> univserse did the trick
[15:32] <ikonia> edge226: a scratch install ? I have no idea what this is / what you're doing
[15:32] <ikonia> edge226: basically try to mount it as a loop back device
[15:32] <ikonia> edge226: see what errors you get and work it through
[15:33] <edge226> ikonia: isnt that what it does by default for a .img file? It was complaining about /dev/loop1 lol...
[15:33] <ikonia> edge226: you just typed "mount" and hoped it would work out
[15:33] <ikonia> edge226: no, you offered no arguments/commands
[15:33] <varunendra> arcsky, in the channel here, you can use "!info <package name>" trick to find which repo it belongs to :)
[15:34] <edge226> ikonia: so what syntax do you suggest. Because I have tried a few things already...
[15:34] <pakair> !info vlc
[15:34] <maddawg> what is being mounted?
[15:34] <edge226> a .img file.
[15:34] <edge226> http://celps.org/p3un6 < you can get the error there.
[15:35] <ikonia> edge226: I'd suggest you try to mount it as a loop back image, or fully understand the format of the image file and mount it correctly
[15:35] <ikonia> edge226: what version of ubuntu is this you're trying to mount it on ?
[15:35] <edge226> ikonia: and I asked systax. I've looked on the net. tried what people said for loopback devices and I get the exact same message.
[15:35] <ikonia> edge226: what syntax have you used
[15:35] <edge226> ikonia: 14.04
[15:36] <daftykins> edge226: what do you hope to achieve by mounting the image of an ARM architecture OS?
[15:36] <edge226> mount -o loop .img place; someone else said mount -R loop .img place.
[15:36] <ikonia> edge226: run file against the image file
[15:36] <edge226> daftykins: its a prebuilt funtoo, My funtoo isnt booting so I was going to snag the kernel stuff off of there and see if that worked.
[15:37] <maddawg> are you actually writing word "place"
[15:37] <daftykins> edge226: you've made your own somehow?
[15:37] <maddawg> also what's the error you are getting
[15:37] <edge226> maddawg: lol no, I just said that so I did not have to type a bunch of stuff.
[15:38] <edge226> daftykins: There was a funtoo img available that I tested and it worked. It contained Mate and I wanted a fresh install so I built one. It doesnt boot so in order to test the kernel that I built I want to grab the one I know worked.
[15:38] <tbtptb> bootable?  There should be a way to make another bootable image file.
[15:39] <daftykins> edge226: seems like a totally backwards approach :)
[15:41] <edge226> daftykins: yeah I never figured it would be this difficult, I think I may have to backup my current ubuntu install from the SD, write the funtoo image over, pull the kernel, rezero the drive and then reflash the ubuntu lol.
[15:41] <tbtptb> lol
[15:41] <phirex> Hey, just tried fixing my boot using boot-repair-disk and now i get "Missing operating system" - here is the output from boot-repair-disk http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608397/
[15:41] <edge226> tbtptb: too bad the easy fix wont work. At least I can be crafty to force it to work lol.
[15:42] <sparrow051> did anyone have a internet download manager for ubuntu
[15:42] <tbtptb> there is a saying out there: if it don't fit, make it
[15:42] <xangua> sparrow051: uget is one
[15:42] <sparrow051> ???
[15:43] <john_rambo> sparrow051: multiget
[15:43] <pakair> sparrow051, wget
[15:44] <phirex> if anyone could take a look and see if they can solve my issue i would appreciate it
[15:44] <edge226> ikonia: http://celps.org/q2jvb
[15:44] <daftykins> phirex: i think you should boot a LiveCD, chroot your install then install GRUB
[15:46] <daftykins> phirex: what's the story with this install? is it a totally fresh one? the log seems to suggest issues with the partitions
[15:48] <daftykins> phirex: i can't help if you disappear :)
[15:48] <varunendra> sparrow051, 'downthemall' is one that integrates with firefox
[15:48] <phirex> daftykins: No its not fresh at all.
[15:48] <daftykins> phirex: what changed between when things worked and now, then?
[15:48] <phirex> Installing the newest kernel
[15:49] <phirex> but i could boot into one of the older kernels before
[15:49] <daftykins> phirex: but after grub-repair it's all gone?
[15:49] <daftykins> er boot repair sorry
[15:49] <phirex> but this time, while the faulty kernel was loading i rebooted
[15:50] <phirex> and i think something got fuc*ed
[15:50] <daftykins> phirex: yeah, can you boot a live session of ubuntu then from a CD, DVD or flash drive?
[15:50] <daftykins> and come back here from that live session
[15:51] <phirex> i am here anyway, my other pc is next to me
[15:51] <daftykins> oh ok
[15:51] <phirex> and it is running the boot-repair live cd
[15:51] <daftykins> you need it to be booted to a live session though
[15:51] <phirex> which looks like a light version of ubuntu
[15:51] <daftykins> so, terminal access is available?
[15:52] <phirex> yep
[15:53] <daftykins> phirex: ok make sure sda1 isn't mounted with "umount /dev/sda" (that may need sudo, i've no idea what that livecd operates like)
[15:53] <daftykins> phirex: oops, that should've read "umount /dev/sda1"
[15:53] <phirex> not mounted
[15:54] <phirex> and btw, when i try accessing the HD from the filemanager i get a mount error :<
[15:54] <daftykins> phirex: yeah, that boot-repair log suggested your filesystem is toast
[15:54] <phirex> :<
[15:55] <daftykins> phirex: ok try "sudo fsck /dev/sda1"
[15:55] <phirex> Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1
[15:56] <daftykins> yeah, your boot-repair log said the same... let's see if we can find out what implications that has
[15:57] <daftykins> phirex: do you have backups of the data on this disk?
[15:57] <phirex> you know, before using boot-repair the error i had was "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'"
[15:58] <phirex> daftykins: Please dont tell me i am going to lose my data. i have nothing backed up :<
[15:58] <daftykins> phirex: well i found an ubuntu forum thread on this exact issue, it doesn't look very good... though there's a claim of success fixing it
[15:59] <daftykins> phirex: if it were fixed - do you have another disk such as an external HDD to copy the data to?
[15:59] <phirex> yes
[15:59] <daftykins> good stuff
[15:59] <daftykins> ok i'm just reading over what this person did on this forum thread
[16:00] <daftykins> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1245536.html
[16:00] <daftykins> have a read too if you like
[16:01] <daftykins> phirex: can you pastebin "dmesg | tail" after the attempted fsck ?
[16:02] <phirex> Buffer I/O error on decide sda1, logical block 27
[16:02] <daftykins> ooooh my
[16:02] <daftykins> phirex: can you type "smartctl" to see if that program is available?
[16:02] <Kryptron> !ubuntu
[16:03] <phirex> not found
[16:03] <phirex> need the smartmontools package?
[16:03] <daftykins> phirex: yeah install that if possible
[16:04] <daftykins> phirex: then pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[16:05] <phirex> uhmm.. it wants me to configure postfix
[16:06] <phirex> is that something that is used to host files when someone dont have a harddrive or something?
[16:06] <Foxhoundz> Help! I Need help!
[16:06] <daftykins> phirex: nope, postfix is an email server
[16:06] <Foxhoundz>  [ 30.394554]drm_kms_helper: panic occured, switching back to
[16:06] <Foxhoundz>                    text console
[16:06] <daftykins> phirex: is it refusing to install smartmontools until it does that?
[16:06] <Foxhoundz> I get this when trying to install ubuntu on Intel's NUC
[16:07] <phirex> daftykins: it just opens the postfix and asks me to configure it
[16:07] <phirex> no idea why...
[16:07] <mhabibi> I have a problem with firefox in ubuntu 14.4. firefox doesn't show any text in some sites as google. ?
[16:08] <daftykins> phirex: just run through it picking defaults then, you might be ok
[16:08] <scrubfest> How should I debug my internet connection using the terminal? The internet icon displays several bars and I connected to my wifi successfully, but I still don't have internet access / browser fail to load urls
[16:08] <daftykins> Foxhoundz: i have found information online saying there is a bug in the kernel on the install media of 14.04
[16:09] <steven_saus> scrubfest: Do other devices/boxes connect properly?
[16:09] <scrubfest> It does... seemingly. But the connection drops every 5 minutes or less
[16:09] <scrubfest> And reconnects successfully.
[16:10] <scrubfest> Initially I had internet access. Surfed flawlessly for an hour or so
[16:10] <phirex> daftykins: cant do it, it doesnt go through the configuration process
[16:11] <daftykins> phirex: ok, to go further i think you're going to need to make a proper ubuntu desktop liveUSB up
[16:11] <phirex> what does smartct1 does?
[16:11] <steven_saus> scrubfest: If the connection drops with all devices, then your router might be the issue.
[16:11] <daftykins> phirex: my idea is to check the SMART status of the hard disk to see if it's damaged before proceeding
[16:11] <steven_saus> scrubfest: If it's just the linux box, then is it wired or wireless connection?
[16:12] <scrubfest> Not all devices, this device, the one running ubuntu (the others are on windows / ios)
[16:12] <scrubfest> wireless
[16:12] <phirex> shouldn't i attempt a grub fix?
[16:12] <scrubfest> my card is: intel wifi link 5100
[16:12] <steven_saus> scrubfest: Nodnod, just checking.   OK - does *wired* work okay?
[16:12] <varunendra> scrubfest, can you give us the pastebin link of the report generated by this script please ? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[16:12] <andlabs> Hi. I want to test this patch, which claims to fix a bug I found in package oxygen-gtk3 - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333983#c4. I did apt-get source to download the source and applied the patch - is there any special procedure for me to build the package as it stands and install it, even temporarily, for this bugfix test? Thanks.
[16:13] <scrubfest> two sec, I'll check if wired works, varuenedra how do I generate said report?
[16:13] <daftykins> phirex: nothing should be done to the disk until its' condition can be confirmed
[16:14] <daftykins> phirex: i can help if you follow my suggestions, but as you saw you can't even fsck this partition right now, so you don't have a hope in hell of installing GRUB to it
[16:14] <varunendra> scrubfest, instructions to download and run the script are in the post, just upload the contents of the generated file (wireless-info.txt) to pastebin and give us its link
[16:14] <steven_saus> Oooh, that's a nice script.
[16:15] <phirex> i think i am going to die...
[16:15] <scrubfest> steven_saus wired works
[16:16] <daftykins> phirex: well there's plenty of time for that later, can you make up the USB flash drive with a desktop ubuntu with another computer?
[16:16] <bekks> phirex: Better get a live cd ;)
[16:16] <varunendra> steven_saus, I call it my mess over forum user 'Wild Man's neat work :p
[16:16] <daftykins> bekks: not sure if you've followed that one, but it seems like a pretty toasted disk =/
[16:17] <phirex> no no please dont say that
[16:17] <phirex> the disk was fine untill an hour ago
[16:17] <steven_saus> scrubfest, then give varunendra's script a go.
[16:17] <daftykins> phirex: you're not replying, are you downloading the ISO of desktop?
[16:17] <scrubfest> omw
[16:17] <phirex> yes
[16:17] <phirex> i didnt notice my laptop wasn't charging and my computer turned off
[16:17] <phirex> but that shouldn't toast a harddrive :<
[16:18] <bekks> daftykins: yeah, I did, but obviously he needs a live cd for further investigation of the disk.
[16:18] <daftykins> *nod*
[16:18] <daftykins> boot-repair doesn't sound very good if it's trying to configure postfix XD
[16:21] <phirex> daftykins: no idea whats that thing
[16:21] <scrubfest> varuendra I got authorization failed
[16:22] <phirex> anyway i will have the live usb ready within a few minutes
[16:22] <raj`> how do I make RtAlt not a compose key anymore?
[16:22] <raj`> LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[16:23] <daftykins> phirex: good stuff, highlight me when you're booted into it
[16:23] <scrubfest> varunendra I got authorization failed
[16:24] <skinux> Why is OpenJDK (I believe default of Ubuntu) supposed to be better than Sun(Oracle) Java?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> skinux: its not better, its just different
[16:25] <maddawg> i'm better
[16:25] <varunendra> scrubfest, just tried here, works fine. Which step did it fail at?
[16:25] <bekks> skinux: It isnt, actually :)
[16:25] <phirex> daftykins: weird, i think i managed installing smartmontools using synaptic on the boot-repair but i still cant run smartct1
[16:25] <skinux> Okay.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I heard it was the same
[16:25] <daftykins> phirex: ah, it's L at the end, not 1
[16:25] <phirex> i'll just wait for the ubuntu live usb tho
[16:25] <phirex> oh ok
[16:26] <phirex> so i got it now
[16:26] <phirex> :)
[16:26] <daftykins> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> skinux: if the default does what you need, use it. If you need the features in Oracle Java, use that
[16:26] <phirex> ok
[16:26] <scrubfest> "connection to dl.dropboxusercontent.com \n {lotsofnumbers}...connected. \n HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Not Authorized \n Authorization Failed" varunendra
[16:26] <phirex> it finisged in a sec
[16:26] <skinux> And, am I correct that using 'sudo' is the same as using 'su' in this distro?
[16:27] <phirex> what are we looking for?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> skinux: no the commands are different in function
[16:27] <daftykins> phirex: post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:27] <skinux> Well, 'su
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> skinux: su is used to become or run commands as a different user
[16:27] <phirex> how do i post output to a file?
[16:27] <skinux> 'su' is disabled isn't it?
[16:27] <varunendra> scrubfest, try the 'manual' (no internet) method. Although the commandline method also works here..
[16:27] <luckybunny> I have beaten the black screen (hallelujah) but still can't get unity going
[16:28] <holstein> luckybunny: try something that doesnt require 3d..
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> skinux: sudo is used to grant admin access to specific users.
[16:28] <holstein> luckybunny: if only for testing, try lxde or xfce
[16:28] <skinux> I know we cannot login as root user.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> skinux: yes, thats a good thing too
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, You at trusty now?
[16:28] <phirex> because the internet client i got with this live cd crashes after a second
[16:28] <varunendra> phirex, (command) > (file)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> skinux: you can get a root prompt with: sudo -s
[16:28] <luckybunny> yes
[16:29] <phirex> thank you
[16:29] <varunendra> np :)
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Have you tried a nomodeset boot as a test?
[16:29] <daftykins> phirex: you could try installing "pastebinit" then simply run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[16:29] <phirex> 7608673
[16:29] <luckybunny> I thank my lucky stars I stuck a folder on my desktop at some point. I can use it to open nautilus, which I can then use to get a terminal
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> skinux: su isnt disabled, you can use it to become any user you know the password of
[16:30] <phirex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608673/
[16:30] <daftykins> reading now
[16:30] <phirex> thanks
[16:30] <daftykins> phirex: what kind of system is this? laptop?
[16:30] <skinux> Well, if I try to login to root using 'su' it says authentication failure
[16:30] <phirex> yeah
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> luckybunny: pressnCTRL + ALT + T and you will open a terminal
[16:31] <luckybunny> ActionParsnip: tried that a few times. nada
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinux: yes because the root account is disabled and has no password
[16:31] <jack-> skinux, what you want is "sudo su -"
[16:31] <skinux> Oh! Cool! I thought we couldn't do anything as root directly.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinux: that doesnt mean su is disabled in any way
[16:31] <luckybunny> going to try the onmodeset boot, but I think I already have done so. worth checking out, still
[16:31] <daftykins> phirex: ok, i'd carry on making up the flash drive with true desktop ubuntu please - the disk is fine in hardware terms, just very weird in software terms
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinux: sudo -s ,root console is yours
[16:31] <phirex> ok
[16:31] <phirex> that makes me happier :)
[16:31] <phirex> it should, right?
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> skinux, how did the memory test go?
[16:32] <skinux> In early version of Ubuntu and other distros, 'su' and root password would become root.
[16:32] <skinux> What memory test?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> skinux: if you have multiple users you can use su to become them using su
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> skinux, sorry I meant another user my mistake. ;)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> skinux: yes because su without a username is efeectively 'su root'
[16:32] <daftykins> phirex: should...?
[16:32] <phirex> daftykins: make me happier?
[16:33] <skinux> ActionParsnip: how do we login to another user desktop instead of just shell?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> skinux: and the account is disabled, so you will get an authentication failure
[16:33] <daftykins> phirex: oh yes
[16:33] <skinux> Is it disabled in Ubuntu kernel or is there a setting somewhere?
[16:33] <luckybunny> nomodeset boot makes no difference (apart from the lack of splash screen)
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> skinux: you'd need to log out to log in as another user on the desktop
[16:33] <luckybunny> at least I'm getting a desktop now though
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> skinux: its a setting on the sccount
[16:34] <docmur_> Does anyone know any good PCB design tools for Ubuntu?  I'm use to Altium / Orcad on Windows
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> skinux: its not needed, you have sudo
[16:34] <skinux> How about restarting graphical desktop using keyboard combination? How do we do that these days?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> skinux: killall -u $USER ,will do it
[16:34] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Thanks, use nicks here to preface those you answer please,
[16:34] <luckybunny> wilee-nilee: ok
[16:34] <skinux> How about if system is being too laggy to type anything into a shell?
[16:35] <skinux> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace used to restart Windowing system, but doesn't do anything anymore.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> skinux: maybe ALT + K + PrintScreen maybe
[16:35] <SchrodingersScat> ActionParsnip: did it always use to work like that? I seem to remember being able to lock one user's session and log in as another?
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, ctrl-alt-t gives you a terminal as well.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: could use the switch user function I guess
[16:36] <luckybunny> wilee-nilee: I know, but it's not working
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> skinux: i believe there is a switch user feature in Ubuntu...
[16:36] <skinux> Sometimes my system gets bogged down so that all I can do is move cursor, but clicking things doesn't do any god.
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Really strange you can install synapse it is a small search gui that would help you here,
[16:36] <SchrodingersScat> ActionParsnip: it's greyed out on mine, maybe thats because I only have one user with login?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: could make a new user to test ;)
[16:37] <daftykins> skinux: zapping has been disabled for 4+ years
[16:37] <skinux> Not switch user....just restart desktop environment
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> skinux: try the key combo
[16:37] <skinux> Which one?
[16:38] <skinux> ALT+K+PrintScreen
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> skinux: ALTGR + K + PrintScreen
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> So, yes
[16:38] <luckybunny> wilee-nilee: is that on a non-default repo?
[16:38] <sara33> hello everyone.
[16:38] <skinux> All that did was take a screenshot
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> skinux: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:39] <OerHeks> ALTgr K printscreen, easy
[16:39] <sara33> is it possible for me to install and run ubuntu 14.04 off a pen drive without using my hard disk?
[16:39] <skinux> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[16:39] <sara33> sorry i am rather new to linux
[16:39] <skinux> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> sara33: yes you can run Ubuntu off a USB stick
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Not sure thought it was in one of the main there is the partners and independent, you can look at gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  to see what repos are open.
[16:39] <OerHeks> sara33, sure, the iso has got a live mode.
[16:40] <sara33> ok but can i save this too. i used to use puppy linux but there are barely any apps so i want to see if i have the same functionality.
[16:41] <sara33> but someone set that up for me and i dont know how it works - all my data and downloads are also saved to the pen drive
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> skinux: i believe you can reenable CTRL + ALT + Backspace in keyboard settings
[16:41] <skinux> sara33: I've Ubuntu 14.04 Live on a USB
[16:41] <Trical> i have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1788211 but on 14.04
[16:41] <skinux> ActionParsnip: I did look there, but I didn't find any way to make the association
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> sara33: yes, just install to the USB as you would a normal drive
[16:41] <daftykins> sara33: you want to make up the flash drive as a persistent install
[16:41] <daftykins> or ^
[16:42] <porimonial> why IDE Code::Blocks don't have permissions to run C++ program, which i saved on my desktop?
[16:42] <sara33> yes that was the word i was looking for - persistent install
[16:42] <sara33> glad to know that is possible.
[16:42] <skinux> Oh wait! What is the shell command to restart desktop environment?
[16:42] <sara33> is there any windows program that can install ubuntu on a pen drive for me with persistent install?
[16:43] <rvdv> skinux: sudo service lightdm restart
[16:43] <sara33> thank you ActionParsnip, OerHeks, skinux and daftykins for your help so far.
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> sara33, unetbootin will
[16:43] <sara33> ok great. thanks wilee-nilee
[16:43] <skinux> rvdv: Is the command the same for Unity?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> skinux: killall -u $USER
[16:44] <daftykins> skinux: yes
[16:44] <rvdv> skinux: I think it is the same in all ubuntu versions, includubg the one with unity
[16:44] <skinux> LightDM is used by all desktop environments on Ubuntu now?
[16:44] <luckybunny> lightdm is used byunity
[16:44] <skinux> Okay.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> skinux: byndefault yes, butbgdm, slim and other DMs exist
[16:44] <rvdv> skinux: I think so ... it does in kubuntu
[16:44] <porimonial> why Code::Blocks don't have permissions to run C++ program, which i saved on my desktop?
[16:45] <scrubfest> varunendra after a reboot it works...
[16:45] <luckybunny> kdm for kubuntu
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> skinux: but gdm*
[16:45] <rvdv> luckybunny: now also lightdm
[16:45] <luckybunny> ah
[16:45] <bekks> rvdv: in kubuntu, kdm is used.
[16:45] <Trical> i have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1788211 transmission starts to fast so it only works when i manually restart it
[16:45] <rvdv> not in 14.04
[16:45] <bekks> rvdv: In 14.04.
[16:46] <skinux> I added it as a command via keyboard settings, but didn't give me a way to set keyboard combination and it automatically disabled it anyway.
[16:46] <bekks> rvdv: I am on running 14.04, and I was asked to replace lightdm with kdm upon the installation of kubuntu-desktop.
[16:46] <opinion> hi
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Trical: make a script to sleep a few seconds, then launch the applocation
[16:47] <rvdv> bekks: then you have not a standard install ...
[16:47] <Trical> it's tarts from the standard init.d script..
[16:47] <bekks> rvdv: whats nonstandard about "sudp apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then?
[16:47] <bekks> *sudo
[16:47] <rvdv> I did not see that option ... or choose to keep clicking next :-)
[16:48] <rvdv> bekks ... if you installed kubuntu that way and onot through a kubuntu install disk ... yes that is not standard
[16:48] <bekks> rvdv: Whats nonstandard about installing a standard package?
[16:49] <varunendra> scrubfest, the wifi?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Rvdv: kubuntu-desktop depends on kde-workspace which has kdm as a dep
[16:49] <rvdv> standard kubuntu install is in my opinion installing it through kubuntu iso
[16:49] <habanany> Guys I installed ubuntu persistent on a usb and I would like to make it a little less heavier,  is ok to remove samba and remina?
[16:49] <scrubfest> varunendra Yeah...
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Rvdv: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/kde-workspace
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> habanany: absolutely
[16:49] <bekks> rvdv: Then your opinion is not compliant with the ubuntu package dependencies.
[16:49] <rvdv> ActionParsnip: ?
[16:50] <rvdv> bekks: can be
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Rvdv: kubuntu will use kdm instead of lightdm
[16:50] <scrubfest> I'm more curious than anything else. Maybe I'll get the same problem, if so I shall return!
[16:50] <rvdv> not when installed from kubuntu install iso
[16:50] <bekks> rvdv: always.
[16:50] <varunendra> scrubfest, so what is/was the original problem?  I haven't been using ubuntu for more than a couple of days so hard to say how "often" it happens other than this being the first time
[16:52] <Guest35114> but apt fails to fetch data
[16:52] <habanany> Thanks ActionParsnip
[16:52] <TheLoverThatKill> What happend to the system?
[16:52] <Guest35114> what can I do
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: do you have web access in liveCD?
[16:52] <Guest35114> Action, I do
[16:52] <Guest35114> TheLover, Poweroff
[16:52] <daftykins> TheLoverThatKill: sorry but this channel is support only, you can make some skype friends in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[16:52] <Guest35114> I`m talking to you through the rescue CD
[16:53] <Guest35114> but after chowning the trouble partition, it won`t work
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: have you chrooted to the installed OS?
[16:53] <varunendra> scrubfest, next time it happens, run these three commands in the sequence given here - 1) sudo modprobe -rv iwldvm iwlwifi , 2) sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi , 3) sudo modprobe -v iwldvm
[16:53] <Guest35114> Action, yes
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: you dont need to chown anything
[16:53] <Guest35114> all right
[16:53] <Guest35114> Ididn`t
[16:53] <Guest35114> Just chrooted
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> in the chroot?
[16:54] <sickgirl> I'm trying to change my mac in wlan with macchanger but it doesn't seem to work.. anybody can help me?
[16:54] <varunendra> scrubfest, they will just reload the driver. If it makes it work, it is better than reboot. But if you need a proper fix, or if this trick doesn't work, I'd suggest to post a thread at ubuntuforums.org
[16:54] <simone> hi
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: why do you need a chroot to fix apt-get anyway?
[16:55] <daftykins> sickgirl: for what purpose?
[16:56] <Guest35114> Action
[16:56] <sickgirl> daftykins: just because I want to see if I can change it
[16:56] <Guest35114> Yes
[16:56] <sickgirl> =)
[16:56] <Guest35114> I can
[16:56] <rvdv> ActionParsnip: & bekks ... I am now with Debian online and just checked my very standard kubuntu install which I did a few days ago ...
[16:56] <phirex> daftykins: sorry its taking me so long, i mistakely added 2GB of persistence to it! just finished tho
[16:56] <Guest35114> It just apt that refuses to work
[16:56] <Guest35114> What do I do
[16:56] <rvdv> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3431 Feb  5 18:16 /mnt/ubuntu/etc/init.d/lightdm
[16:56] <phirex> sickgirl: or perhaps trying to crack into someone's wifi...
[16:56] <rvdv> No kdm
[16:56] <Guest35114> sorru, the focus is strange
[16:57] <daftykins> sickgirl: yeah, honesty makes it a bit easier to sympathise with help requests
[16:57] <daftykins> i concur with phirex on this one
[16:57] <Guest35114> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'extras.ubuntu.com'
[16:57] <Guest35114> This i s what I get
[16:57] <Guest35114> for instance
[16:57] <sickgirl> phirex: no, I want to protect my computer because I guess it was hacked
[16:57] <varunendra> sickgirl, does the manual method mentioned here work (replacing 'eth0' with 'wlan0') ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228315
[16:57] <daftykins> Guest35114: echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> > /etc/resolv.conf
[16:57] <phirex> how will changing mac address help protect your computer?
[16:58] <daniel31> sickgirl I'm not familiar with machanger but you should be able to do that from the terminal. ah, I guess varundra said that..
[16:58] <daniel31> i
[16:58] <daftykins> sickgirl: that is the worst way to go about attempting any kind of protection
[16:58] <sickgirl> daftykins: phirex. so I read that if someone gets my mac address it's easier to get acess to my computer, but I already changed the ip the only thing I cannot change is this shitty mac address
[16:58] <daniel31> i'm not entirely sure that changing your mac will nessesarily have the effect you desire, unless what you desire is some sort of penetration or intrusion test, but thats your call...
[16:58] <daftykins> sickgirl: i'm afraid wherever you read that was talking rubbish
[16:59] <daftykins> sickgirl: why do you think you were hacked? i feel like you've been in here saying this before...
[16:59] <sickgirl> daniel31: varunendra I'm gonna check the link, I tried to change it acessing the router admin page, but there it's like locked option, gimme 5 mins
[16:59] <planetmaker> sickgirl, that does not sound like sane advice. It's security by obscurity at best
[16:59] <simone> $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[17:00] <phirex> daftykins: ok! i'm on liveCD now!
[17:00] <sickgirl> daftykins: yes I was here, I'm just trying to learn how to lock my computer in all ways =D haha
[17:00] <Guest35114> dafty
[17:00] <planetmaker> (and it's also not obscurity really)
[17:00] <Guest35114> thanks
[17:00] <Guest35114> will ytu
[17:00] <sickgirl> planetmaker: which one?
[17:00] <galih> Hi
[17:00] <Guest35114> Now it works
[17:00] <Guest35114> thanks
[17:00] <daniel31> yeah, what they said. if someone has your mac it wont make it easier to hack into yur computer. if youre using linux and have good passwords youre already ahead of the game. the only time people need to know their mac addres is on some private networks, e.g. soe university residential networks only work with a list of known mac addresses. the only time you'd want to change it that I can think of is if you want to hack into those networks.
[17:01] <daftykins> phirex: nice, just to confirm can you try "sudo -fyM /dev/sda1" again ?
[17:01] <SchrodingersScat> afaik the mac wouldn't leave the lan anyway, and if [they] are already on your lan, you have other concerns
[17:01] <phirex> daftykins: will do in a minute, didnt know it takes so long to load...
[17:01] <KGM70> o/
[17:02] <sickgirl> daftykins: planetmaker daniel31 varunendra here http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/56181/hack-into-a-computer-through-mac-and-ip-address
[17:02] <sickgirl> Ok i must give up my paranoia =) I guess
[17:02] <phirex> daftykins: you sure u didnt miss anything on that command
[17:02] <daftykins> sickgirl: yeah, this is a really bad approach.
[17:02] <simone> ciao
[17:03] <daftykins> phirex: lol oops
[17:03] <galih> I've a little problem with my macbook pro which run Xubuntu 14.04, I can't  suspend without problem to return on use. Can you help me please ? Thank's
[17:03] <daftykins> phirex: sudo fsck -fyM /dev/sda1
[17:03] <sickgirl> daftykins: ok
[17:03] <SchrodingersScat> sickgirl: that strikes me as a joke, terminal velocity of their modem..
[17:03] <daniel31> hahaha. David Houde (the poster) was making a joke sickgirl. I used to do that to the kids at school when I was young all the time.
[17:03] <phirex> yep, same error
[17:03] <sickgirl> daniel31: booooo
[17:03] <sickgirl> ahaha
[17:03] <sickgirl> ok guys
[17:04] <maddawg> WOAH... is that a girl??
[17:04]  * maddawg drools
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> !ot | maddawg STOP
[17:04] <daniel31> not cool, maddawg. not cool.
[17:04] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | maddawg
[17:04] <phirex> daftykins: same error ....
[17:05] <maddawg> sorry
[17:05] <maddawg> poor joke
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> maddawg, keep your misogyny to yourself
[17:05] <daftykins> phirex: yeah, just considering how to proceed
[17:05] <maddawg> it was a joke.. i'm not really like that
[17:05] <KGM70> all that fuss over one word
[17:05] <maddawg> i promise
[17:05] <daftykins> phirex: how big is your external drive?
[17:05] <phirex> 1TB
[17:06] <daftykins> phirex: is it empty?
[17:06] <phirex> no but i can free up as much needed
[17:06] <phirex> and basically the only really important stuff i want to backup wont take more than 5GB
[17:07] <conall2> Hi Guys. Im having a problem with lightdm. When I log on to my main user account nothing appears. But it works fine for guest and others.
[17:07] <Guest35114> I hope this works now
[17:07] <rvgate_> I have an old (or new) unlabeled Ubuntu disc laying around... How do i find out what version it is (13.10/14.04?) without rebooting and booting from disc?
[17:07] <daftykins> phirex: i was debating imaging up the entire disk onto the external so any attempts could be considered less risky :S
[17:07] <Guest35114> having the system powering off while you upgrade is a nightmare
[17:07] <conall2> *Just the background appears*
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> conall2, Sounds more like mods you have made
[17:08] <habanany> I'm trying to remove samba but I get samba is not installed,  should I type $ sudo apt-get autoremove samba-common ?
[17:08] <conall2> wilee-nilee, How would I go about fixing it?
[17:08] <phirex> uhmmmmm
[17:08] <OerHeks> habanany, stop samba first, then remove/purge
[17:08] <Guest35114> Why is it installing gnome modules...
[17:08] <dirty__> hi all just curious if there is a good compiler editor for objective c on ubuntu i have a mac but want to learn ob c any guidance welcomed
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> conall2, when was it gone and what did you do before that?
[17:09] <daniel31> guest35114 : tell me about it. forced upgrade for me to today due to end of life. 3 powercuts later and my system is fried. just burning another image to reinstall now :-(
[17:09] <conall2> wilee-nilee, thanks for the help. It just went on me today. I remeber plaing around with some files but I dont remember what
[17:09] <phirex> daftykins: hey! my gf just found another 1TB external drive :)
[17:09] <Guest35114> daniel, I wish Ubuntu would keep the core packages cached so it would gracefully revert
[17:10] <phirex> daftykins: brand new...
[17:10] <daftykins> phirex: praise me to ms.phirex \o/
[17:10] <daftykins> *be
[17:10] <daniel31> so do I, guest35114. so do I.
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> conall2, Ah, that is a problem at least for me to help, here details are the rule.
[17:10] <Guest35114> All you would need would be a working grub, and then, revert upgrade
[17:10] <Guest35114> (or rollback, etc)
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, wrong
[17:10] <phirex> daftykins: hehehe. ok so what do i do? :)
[17:11] <daftykins> phirex: got it all plugged in and can see it's nice and empty?
[17:11] <Guest35114> wrong
[17:11] <Guest35114> why
[17:11] <daniel31> I wonder if somekind of locked grub partition with recovery might be the answer, like with phones. they were talking about it over at the debian security mailing list earlier today, who knows, might be the way forwards.
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, There is no rollback.
[17:11] <conall2> wilee-nilee, I understand. but I cant seem to remember what I did. I think it was just in my home dir. Do you know of the important files in the home dir that lightdm would need
[17:11] <Guest35114> That is my point
[17:11] <habanany> OerHeks whats the command
[17:11] <Guest35114> I WISH there was
[17:11] <phirex> daftykins: yep.
[17:11] <dirty__> hi all just curious if there is a good compiler editor for objective c on ubuntu i have a mac but want to learn ob c on my ubuntu system as the mac isnt my fav any guidance welcomed
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> conall2, Not really, If I had a clue in this ( what you did) I would suggest.
[17:12] <daftykins> phirex: ok see if 'clonezilla' is available
[17:12] <phirex> daftykins: just a few files coming with it
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, than if it is a want don;t suggest something that is not there, that is not helping.
[17:13] <conall2> I was playing around with chmod but as far as I can tell all the permissions are the same as on my other user account
[17:13] <Guest35114> wilee, that is not helping why, exactly
[17:13] <phirex> daftykins: no, will install now
[17:13] <Guest35114> Just because it`s not there, is that it
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, That is a basic problem, I am not going to argue with inane questions.
[17:14] <metaphysician> In 14.04, there is a bug in /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/wireless script at line 23. It should "enabled" at the end of path /sys/class/net/$1/device/enable.   I'm working on a eeepc, which is an older netbook, and I'm getting a kernel oops while trying to install.  Any advice?  I think I'm going to give 12.04 a try...
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Guest35114
[17:15] <phirex> daftykins: no... :)
[17:15] <phirex> doing it now
[17:15] <phirex> still not found :<
[17:15] <daftykins> phirex: it appears to be on the universe repos so you might have to enable those in the system settings -> software and sources
[17:15] <Guest35114> Emergency
[17:15] <daftykins> phirex: * software and updates
[17:15] <Guest35114> You`ve gotta be kidding
[17:15] <Guest35114> just because someone disagrees
[17:16] <arw132> hi guys and gays
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> arw132, Do you have a support issue? I'm hoping you meant gals.
[17:18] <arw132> yes yes
[17:18] <daniel31> Hmm what kind of emergencies might this channel have? I hosed my system earlier I guess that was an emergency...
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> arw132, Cool. ;)
[17:18] <daftykins> that'd be more personal than channel ;)
[17:19] <daniel31> lol
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, a continued diatribe of dis help and name calling is an issue.
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> it will only get worse
[17:22] <phirex> daftykins: i cant seem to find that repo
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, Have you summed checked the iso or the burn/load of the install media?
[17:22] <varunendra> metaphysician, who was your msg directed to? The info is useful by the way, how did you discover that?
[17:22] <daftykins> phirex: do you see the tickboxes in the software and updates part of system settings?
[17:23] <phirex> yes
[17:23] <daftykins> phirex: so the second one, universe should be ticked?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:23] <phirex> got it
[17:23] <phirex> ticked it
[17:23] <daftykins> phirex: ok, close out and re-run apt-get update
[17:24] <phirex> was easier than i though, i was looking to add a specific repository
[17:24] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: yes, ironically I ran into another media issue that the built in medium checker doesn't pick up, so I don't think it is a media issue
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, What you think is an opinion, a sum check is empirical.
[17:24] <daniel31> Hmm. So I'm on a mac and just finished dd'ing my usb install media. "Disc was unreadable, would you like to initialise." is this likely to be a  problem? download is from torrent.
[17:25] <phirex> daftykins: ok, installed it
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> gotta check variables ChogyDan
[17:25] <daftykins> phirex: alrighty, so run 'sudo clonezilla'
[17:25] <phirex> done
[17:25] <daniel31> disk utility is refusing to mount or interact with it much...
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> daniel31: did you unplug the usb at any point, or did you keep it in and reboot?
[17:25] <daftykins> phirex: it'll run a ghetto text mode program, asking several questions in sequence
[17:25] <daniel31> haven't unplugged it all. i'm installing it to a different system tho; havent tried booting it yet.
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> daniel31: can you mount the usb partition in MacOS ok?
[17:26] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: sum check passed on a usb that I may have installed multiple times to.  It was failing.  I reinstalled same iso, wiping the usb, and then it worked more.  But yeah, I agree in principle to make sure to check the sum
[17:26] <daftykins> phirex: so i'd select device-image
[17:26] <phirex> daftykins: done
[17:26] <daniel31> no actionparsnip, I can't.
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, Ah cool, it helps to know process you have tried. ;)
[17:26] <daftykins> phirex: then local_dev
[17:27] <phirex> ok
[17:27] <daftykins> phirex: so at that point it breaks out to terminal again and says blah blah make sure the device is plugged in...
[17:27] <phirex> yes
[17:27] <daniel31> both my .img and .iso files: "no readable mountable filesystem" when mounted thru finder. balls. does that mean my download is buggered?
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, You might try the mini netload.
[17:27] <phirex> done that, back to ghetto, now it shows sda1
[17:28] <daftykins> phirex: sorta like - http://b2b.cbsimg.net/blogs/clonezilla_select_source.png ?
[17:28] <phirex> so i guess i pick that... right?
[17:28] <phirex> yep, only i have sda1 only there
[17:28] <angelica> Hi, I am having issues with my wifi, I have tried different alternatives but nothing works! The connection goes in and out... I am on Ubuntu 14.4 and did a system check, it shows: wireless/wireless_connection	FAILED	Fontconfig warning: ignoring C.UTF-8: not a valid language tag
[17:28] <daftykins> phirex: does it have the same message text? as that appears to be asking to mount the device to backup to, not the partition to backup
[17:29] <angelica> how can I fix the unstable wifi?
[17:29] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: yeah, I just sum checked again.  Passed.  I'm worried it is a real kernel bug.  The problem is the system crashes before I can do very much.  I certainly can't file a bug report
[17:30] <phirex> daftykins: yea. thats not good right? we need to choose the usb for that, right?
[17:30] <daftykins> phirex: indeed
[17:30] <phirex> ok it did show something like "usb busy" let me go back to that
[17:30] <daftykins> phirex: ah maybe the USB was auto mounted and the program wants to do it, tell you what quit the program and unplug the drive
[17:31] <daftykins> phirex: yeah i think it's because it was auto mounted
[17:31] <phirex> oh ok
[17:31] <angelica> Hi, I am having issues with my wifi, I have tried different alternatives but nothing works! The connection goes in and out... I am on Ubuntu 14.4 and did a system check, it shows: wireless/wireless_connection FAILED Fontconfig warning: ignoring C.UTF-8: not a valid language tag.  how can I fix the unstable wifi?
[17:31] <metaphysician> varunendra: was directed to developers. discovered while trying to optimize for low power consumption
[17:31] <daftykins> phirex: so re-run "sudo clonezilla" with the drive disconnected
[17:31] <Foxhoundz> I'm still getting drm_kms_helper kernel panic
[17:32] <varunendra> metaphysician, no developers here I think, but I (just a user) noted that. Thanks for the info :)
[17:32] <Foxhoundz> when trying to install Linux on Intel NUC
[17:32] <Foxhoundz> can anyone point me in the right direction? What might cause this kernel panic?
[17:32] <phirex> daftykins: ye, just plugged in the external when it asked me to, and still cant see the device
[17:32] <daftykins> phirex: :/
[17:32] <phirex> i'll try again ..
[17:32] <phirex> maybe i should unmount it
[17:33] <phirex> and then run the program?
[17:33] <varunendra> angelica, can you run a script to generate a report please? Instructions are here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[17:33] <daftykins> phirex: yeah give that a try :)
[17:33] <phirex> how do i unmount? :)
[17:33] <daftykins> phirex: also i wonder what format it is in as it's new, possibly NTFS for Windows? not sure if thatll have an issue
[17:33] <usuario> Fixed, at least :)
[17:33] <MrCleanWithHair> ath9k issue: ar5416 chipset card, fails to initialize. http://pastebin.com/1vAxWCZL for relevant information
[17:33] <daftykins> phirex: "sudo fdisk -l" will list disks, you can identify the 1TB external as maybe /dev/sdb or sdc then "sudo umount /dev/sdx"
[17:35] <phirex> that worked :)
[17:35] <daftykins> \o/
[17:35] <phirex> ok so i chose it
[17:35] <daftykins> phirex: so what stage is it onto now?
[17:35] <daftykins> what's the title text
[17:36] <phirex> now it asked for which directory
[17:36] <phirex> so i just put top directory
[17:36] <daftykins> sounds good
[17:36] <phirex> press Enter to continue...
[17:36] <angelica> varunendra: here you go... http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608963/
[17:36] <phirex> now beginner or expert mode?
[17:36] <Asterisks> Quick poll:  Who here knows how DDOS attacks work?
[17:37] <daftykins> phirex: beginner should be fine
[17:37] <phirex> ok, savedisk, saveparts?
[17:37] <daftykins> Asterisks: polls are not allowed and off topic conversation is not allowed
[17:37] <daftykins> !ot | Asterisks
[17:37] <angelica> varunendra: it also created another file called wireless script, you want that one too?
[17:37] <bekks> Asterisks: Wrong channel. Wrong network.
[17:37] <ChogyDan> MrCleanWithHair: maybe your card isn't supported.   LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[17:38] <phirex> chose a name, now it listed sda1 ...
[17:38] <Asterisks> daftykins: bekks: sorry, switched channels by accident
[17:38] <phirex> as the source partition, so i guess thats good
[17:38] <phirex> so i choose that
[17:39] <phirex> should i skip "check and repair" ?
[17:39] <daftykins> phirex: yep
[17:39] <phirex> as its probably not going to work lol
[17:39] <daftykins> indeed!
[17:39] <daftykins> it brings a tear to my eye, helping someone who is able to apply their brain ;_;
[17:39] <ChogyDan> MrCleanWithHair: which kernel / release are you running?
[17:39] <angelica> varunendra, I am connected through an usb adaptor, I just plugged it in and got online, the problem is the connection goes in and out and I have to keep clicking on it so it reconnects. The usb adaptor came with a cd that contains drivers for linux, but I dont know what to do with them... maybe thats the issue.
[17:40] <MrCleanWithHair> ChogyDan-- 3.14.4-1
[17:40] <gnu_d> I need some alternative way of keyboard input, something experimental, anybody knows any ? - Like word completions or something like that, but included in GTK/QT ?
[17:40] <phirex> daftykins: ok, i checked "check image" and it seems like it didnt go so well
[17:40] <phirex> "This partition in the image is broken: sda1 :(
[17:41] <daftykins> phirex: surely it didn't copy 600+ GB already
[17:41] <ChogyDan> MrCleanWithHair: I don't think that is a supported kernel
[17:41] <phirex> daftykins: yeah
[17:41] <varunendra> angelica, firstly, please change the encryption type in your router to pure WPA2 with AES (CCMP). Currently it is using WPA/WPA2 mixed mode. Secondly, the driver you have is buggy. Try a patched one mentioned here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13026049
[17:42] <phirex> paste.ubuntu.com/7608988/
[17:44] <Guest82433> .
[17:45] <angelica> varunendra: there is no pure WPA2 with AES option under wifi security settings
[17:45] <angelica> where else could I check to change that?
[17:45] <varunendra> angelica, what are the options you see? That is a change to be made in the router, not in Ubuntu.
[17:45] <daftykins> phirex: hrmm i don't have a clue why that failed
[17:46] <phirex> uhmmm
[17:46] <usuario> I'm getting this eror, guys
[17:46] <usuario> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnutls26_2.12.23-12ubuntu2.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[17:46] <daftykins> phirex: ignoring that for a moment, please run "sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1"
[17:46] <usuario> how to fix this?
[17:46] <daftykins> usuario: "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:46] <usuario> Thanks!
[17:46] <lamrz> OerHeks, varunendra, hello back..:)
[17:46] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, what is the output of "lspci -nn | grep 0280" ?
[17:47] <phirex> daftykins: invalid reserverd blocks percent
[17:47] <varunendra> hello lamrz :)
[17:47] <daftykins> phirex: hrmm a friend is heading over so i may be out of time very shortly
[17:47] <phirex> me too
[17:47] <phirex> i have to go
[17:47] <phirex> to open my bar
[17:47] <phirex> when do you think you'll be here?
[17:47] <lamrz> I have a problem with grep this time. I'm trying to get byte offsets by grep command by using disk images, using the command here: http://dpaste.com/14HF51M/
[17:48] <phirex> i just dont think anyone else has the patience to have to help me go through this :<
[17:48] <angelica> varunendra: options: WEP, Leap, Dynamic WEP, WPA & WPA 2
[17:48] <daftykins> phirex: hmm more likely tomorrow now, but if you come back just say you've got a very messed up disk and need assistance imaging it up to an external before trying to recover
[17:48] <usuario> I'm getting this now
[17:48] <angelica> varunendra: How do I change that in the router?
[17:48] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- no output
[17:48] <lamrz> I could make it work on a usb drive. but on other usb drives I get the message "grep: memory exhausted"..what would this mean?
[17:48] <total_> Hi!
[17:48] <phirex> ok!
[17:48] <usuario>  unable to make backup symlink for `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgnutls-extra.so.26': No such file or directory
[17:48] <phirex> thanks a lot daftykins ! will probably talk again tomorrow tho :)
[17:48] <daftykins> no problem, bye for now o/
[17:49] <total_> Need some assistance with dual display and  Nvidia.
[17:49] <usuario> Anything else I cando?
[17:49] <phirex> bye
[17:49] <DrFoo_> I am getting an error when I go to update packages: Requires Installation of Untrusted Packages
[17:49] <DrFoo_> How do I fix
[17:49] <varunendra> angelica, by logging into the routers admin web interface. Refer to your router's manual to see where to change that. They are too different to predict.
[17:49] <daftykins> usuario: please use paste.ubuntu.com to share the entire output from the last command
[17:49] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, is it a usb adapter?
[17:50] <usuario> daffykins, I can't... my browsers don't work
[17:50] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- not it's pci
[17:50] <usuario> daftykins, It has to do with that library
[17:51] <total_> I get black screen with X-cursor on my second screen. How to fix this without enable Xinerama? (Nvidia)
[17:51] <varunendra> lamrz, no experience with that.... sorry :(
[17:51] <angelica> varunendra: the router belongs to the internet provider,I will try to call them and see if I can do those changes... but if they say no, is there anyother alternatve?
[17:52] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, can you show us a report generated by a script mentioned here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222 ??
[17:53] <lamrz> varunendra, no problem at all, thank you! :)
[17:54] <varunendra> angelica, it shouldn't be necessary, it is just not optimal. Pure WPA2 with AES is usually much easier to handle for wifi drivers. Try the patched driver anyway.
[17:54] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- it's not network so no, but I've already put the majority of that information in pastebin so I'll see if I can't just type the rest of it in
[17:54] <angelica> varunendra: you mean the instruction in the link you sent?
[17:55] <SenorSenpai> does anyone know how to reset Tasque?
[17:55] <varunendra> angelica yeah, the one that mentions "rtl8192cu-fixes"
[17:55] <lamrz> I'm trying consulting people on debian channel..
[17:55] <angelica> excellent, I will try hat. Thank you !
[17:56] <dbugger> Hi guys. Is there a hotkey to move a window between different monitors?
[17:56] <varunendra> angelica, hope it works for you too, as it has for a few others .. Good luck! :)
[17:56] <MrCleanWithHair> lamrz-- how big are the two usb drives?
[17:57] <total_> About my dual screen problem, I get this message. What does it mean/how to change position? "Multiple X screens are set to use absolute positioning.  Though it is valid to do so, one or more X screens may be (or may become) unreachable due to overlapping and/or dead space.  It is recommended to only use absolute positioning for the first X screen, and relative positioning for all subsequent X screens."
[17:57] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, what do you mean by 'not network'? Is there no internet on the system in question? The post also mentions a manual (no internet) method to run the script.
[17:58] <MrCleanWithHair> I know hot to run a script, but I have no way of getting it to the computer, and no way of getting the output off of the computer
[17:59] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, no pen drives or such things?
[17:59] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- nope
[18:00] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, it may be really difficult then. Typing all the outputs by hand and such.. :(
[18:01] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, does the output of "lspci" show something about a "Network Controller" ?
[18:01] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- line 3 http://pastebin.com/LpmPqq3M
[18:04] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, what does this line become with "lspci -nn" ? I am interested in the device ID (e.g. [1234:56ab]
[18:04] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- I'm gonig to plug the desktop into a router and ssh over to it from this laptop. (i know you're thinking, why not just plug the internet into a the router and the router into the computer; because we don't have wired internet, it's a wireless connection, so there is nothing to plug into)
[18:06] <MrCleanWithHair> and 168c:0023
[18:06] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- back in a minute
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> MrCleanWithHair: varunendra: try: sudo modprobe -r ath9k; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[18:07] <lamrz> where do I find keyrings in 14.04. ? there seems to be no more the folder '.gnome2'
[18:07] <lamrz> or is it no more under home directory?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Lamrz: possibly ~/.local/share/keyrings
[18:11] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, it's there, thank you!
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Lamrz: all i did was search the web.......
[18:11] <xeno> I have tried several things to try to get mailto links to bring up gmail in chrome on Ubuntu.  All fail.  I've tried gnome-gmail install, an old javascript hack, and accessing an item on the navitation window.
[18:11] <SchrodingersScat> !google | ActionParsnip
[18:11] <jirido> Results for | ActionParsnip on Google:
[18:11] <jirido> --
[18:12] <xeno> Please, someone, how do I get mailto in chrome to bring up a mailer in the browser rather than thunderbird?
[18:12] <SchrodingersScat> oh, that's not accurate for the situation, sorry ActionParsnip
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: np
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: there is an addon for the browser to do that
[18:12] <xeno> Please tell me the name?
[18:13] <xeno> Is that under extensions?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: search the app store dude
[18:13] <xeno> Ok.  Thanks.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: mailto gmail chrome ,search for that, first link?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: does that one look ok?
[18:15] <xeno> I installed it, and it is still trying to open evolution.
[18:15] <xeno> Works after complete browser reload.
[18:15] <xeno> Thank you Action Parsnip.
[18:16] <xeno> (BTW:  Parsnip was my grandmother's favorite vegetable)
[18:16] <magnet> hi, since upgrading to 14.04, my Gnome shortcuts Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown are not working anymore (eg in Gnome-Terminal or Chromium). I'm using Gnome-FlashBack with metacity. Any pointer where to set them?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: again, all i did was search......
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: coukdnt you find that, the search was simple enough.
[18:19] <magnet> seems like I'm hitting #965921
[18:20] <grimeton> hm ubuntu doesn't boot on a hp dl320
[18:20] <grimeton> wtf
[18:20] <Nokiabot> Ftw
[18:21] <Nokiabot> Grimeton :what is the problem
[18:21] <grimeton> it's not booting
[18:21] <bekks> grimeton: do you use the server iso?
[18:21] <ghlh> grimeton, No swearing please. This a live, or fresh install, details are needed. ;)
[18:21] <bekks> grimeton: what does "not booting mean? Where does the whole process get stuck?
[18:21] <grimeton> before starting grub
[18:21] <grimeton> just a second
[18:22] <Galoubet> I recently got my hands on a Steelseries Merc Stealth (which is a keyboard with a builtin gamepad), and found out that some of the gamepad keys have the same keycodes as the regular keyboard keys. I tried to fix this with xev/evtest/xmodmap, and found that the keys actually have the same internal keysysms. Does anyone know how to fix that?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: is it the installer or an already installed OS?
[18:22] <grimeton> the thing is: i can install it, it all works fine and after the reboot it just sits there and can't boot from the disks
[18:22] <grimeton> it doesn't even launch grub
[18:22] <grimeton> funny fact: debian works
[18:22] <bekks> grimeton: It sits _where_?
[18:23] <bekks> grimeton: Last chance: more information needed.
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: is it the installer, or an installed OSn
[18:23] <grimeton> bekks: go play with yourself
[18:23] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: what?
[18:23] <Nokiabot> Gimerton :that was rude
[18:23] <Squall5668> Who gave you a proliant? :P
[18:23] <bekks> grimeton: I prefer to not support you anymore, in future, ever, instead. Good luck.
[18:23] <ghlh> sigh this will be a block or ban guaranteed
[18:23] <bekks> grimeton: Oh, and just to mention it: ignoring you.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: 3rd time now. Are you trying to install the OS, or is the issue with Ubuntu which is on the internal drive?
[18:24] <bekks> grimeton: No, I will just not support him ever again, in no channel on freenode.
[18:24] <Nokiabot> Bang !
[18:24] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: 20:22 < grimeton> the thing is: i can install it, it all works fine and after the reboot it just sits there and can't boot from the disks
[18:24] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: 20:22 < grimeton> it doesn't even launch grub
[18:25] <bekks> Squall5668: A 320 is about a decade old. Actually its rubbish.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: have you tried booting to liveCD and installing Grub to the MBR manually?
[18:25] <Squall5668> bekks: Indeed but it's not something you find in a trashcan
[18:25] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah, same results. it works (no errors reported, but then it doesn't boot)
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> clear
[18:25] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: it's like the drives aren't there for the bios
[18:25] <bekks> Squall5668: you find it at the scrap dealer.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: have you tried chrooting to the installed OS and running fully updating?
[18:26] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- http://pastebin.com/QJe40Yva
[18:26] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: how does that help me booting it?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: it will update Grub which may help
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: are the drives SATA?
[18:26] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: i updated it several times and it always works ...
[18:26] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah
[18:26] <Squall5668> bekks: It could be a g8
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: have you tried setting IDE compatibility mode in BIOS?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: what GPU do you use please?
[18:27] <bekks> Squall5668: then he would have mentioned it to be g8, assumably. However, I'm not interested in his issues anymore, let's move on.
[18:27] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: it's practically this problem: http://mergy.org/2013/04/ubuntu-server-on-an-hp-dl320e-gen8/
[18:27] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: difference is i'm using 14.04
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: what GPU are you using?
[18:28] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: eeer what?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: the video chip.....?
[18:28] <grimeton> how is that involved in booting?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: graphical processing unit
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: because if there is a driver issue that needs a boot option then it may stop the boot
[18:29] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: before grub is even launched? don't think so
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: then i'd try and get the version of grub updated in chroot
[18:30] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: from 14.04 to what?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: or use a different boot loader.
[18:30] <grimeton> i think it's more a compatibility issue here
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: no, the version of grub.
[18:31] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: and what grub package should i install to upgrade?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: grub is a package. It is installed using the deb on the install media, however it will get updated on the online repos and you would pull this down in regular updates
[18:31] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah, but running 14.04 with the latest updates, what package could is use to get a even newer grub version installed?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: so if you chroot, you can run updates and it may resolve the issue, right
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: thats not ansentance
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> A sentence*
[18:32] <grimeton> ah
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: when you install the grub packages the postinst tells the OS to run: update-grub which may also help
[18:33] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah, tell me something i don't know
[18:33] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: tell me how to upgrade grub
[18:33] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: i'm running 14.04 with the latest updates
[18:33] <grimeton> now point me to an even newer grub package
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: sudo update-grub
[18:34]  * grimeton gives up
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: if you have the latest updates then you have the latest version of grub for Trusty
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: you could also ask in #grub
[18:35] <rvdv> ActionParsnip: update-grub will not install a newer package of grub .... which was the question
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: i'd try the IDE compatibility in BIOS. Could even try Burg.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> rvdv: yes that's why I wrote 'if you have the latest updates then you have the latest version of grub for Trusty'
[18:37] <grimeton> yeah whatever, thanks for the help...
[18:38] <lamrz> can I use an "installer" usb to perform operations like creating dd images, grep, or installing special editor programmes like most...or do I need a usb drive with a fully installed OS on it?
[18:39] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- http://pastebin.com/QJe40Yva
[18:40] <mojtaba> I have upgraded to 14.04 LTS and viber is not working anymore. Do you know what should I do?
[18:40] <jmadero> anyone have a suggestion for this problem: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/programming-scripting/201704-bash-script-compare-two-folders-copy-non-existant-files.html#post952000
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: the installer is a full desktop OS you can use just like an installed OS. You can make disk images as you need.
[18:40] <grimeton> jmadero: rsync
[18:40] <streulma> hello I don't know which system to use. My Macbook Pro 2009 with ssd and 8gb ram. Or my Acer i5. ofcourse with Linux
[18:40] <jmadero> grimeton: can't rsync for this one
[18:41] <jmadero> after I copy/paste I am going to change the files in folder2
[18:41] <grimeton> jmadero: find and - if necessary md5sum
[18:41] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, thank you again! this will save me time.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: try running the application from terminal, the output may give clues
[18:42] <jmadero> hm - sorry I'll need a bit more than that (my bash scripting isn't great)
[18:42] <ghlh> streulma, The acer should be an easier install if not a UEFI.
[18:42] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[18:43] <grimeton> jmadero: cd folder1 && find ./ -type f | while read line; do [[ -f "../folder2/${line}" ]] || cp "${line}" ../folder2/; done
[18:44] <jmadero> grimeton: thanks, will see if I can do something with that
[18:44] <grimeton> jmadero: and for existing files
[18:44] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It seems it is an script, viber.sh
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: ok, run the script in terminal. See if the output gives any clue
[18:45] <grimeton> jmadero: cd folder1 && find ./ -type f | while read line; do [[ -f "../folder2/${line}" ]] && s1="$(openssl md5 -in "${line}")"; s2="$(openssl md5 -in "../folder2/${line}")"; if [[ "$s1" != "$s2" ]]; then cp "${line}" ../folder2/; fi; done
[18:45] <jmadero> lol grimeton that one looks quite complicated
[18:45] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: /usr/share/viber/Viber.sh               Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:46] <jmadero> for just comparing two folders and copying files that don't exist to a second folder
[18:46] <jmadero> :)
[18:46] <grimeton> jmadero: rsync
[18:46] <jmadero> grimeton: I can't rsync I said why
[18:46] <grimeton> jmadero: complicated bash it is then
[18:46] <jmadero> lol
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: tried renaming the config folder for the app, wherever it is in $HOME
[18:51] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: you mean .viber directory?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: if that is a folder in your home then sure. Rename and launch the application.
[18:53] <bia> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop (new installation). I have a problem with the USB 2.0 ports. When I use my USB mouse in the 2.0 port it is extremely slow, while in the USB 3.0 ports it works perfectly. Due to a HDMI->DVI adapter, I can however not use the 3.0 ports. Any help appreciated!
[18:54] <grimeton> i wonder if 480mbit/s isn't enough for today mouses
[18:55] <bia> grimeton: hehe, got the same problem if I put the keyboard in a 2.0 port :/
[18:56] <grimeton> bia: check the bios if there is some usb 2.0 setting, maybe ehci offload or something that could be a problem
[18:56] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It is working now. But what was the problem? ( I am confused.) But the problem is that I lost everything from before. Can I add them to this one?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: the config was causing the issue. Maybe something updated and the config you had was slightly off.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: you may be able to copy bits between the configs. Not sure as I dont use the application.
[18:57] <dw1> bia: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1743049.html
[18:57] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by bits?
[18:57] <Zackstack> lol
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: parts of the old profile.....
[18:58] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you very much
[18:59] <Gilrin> Come chill at my new forum! http://chillforum.org
[19:00] <bekks> Gilrin: Stop spamming.
[19:00] <Gilrin> that was not spam.
[19:00] <dw1> bia: "lsusb -t shows the speed of each device, as it is connected."
[19:00] <bazhang> Gilrin, its offtopic here
[19:00] <Gilrin> i have ubuntu
[19:00] <Squall5668> oh it's ok then... heh
[19:00] <bazhang> Gilrin, nice try, dont spam here
[19:00] <Gilrin> lol
[19:00] <Gilrin> alright sorry.
[19:01] <Zackstack> burn!
[19:01] <Zackstack> cool forum tho
[19:01] <Gilrin> thank you.
[19:01] <chronik> hola
[19:01] <Gilrin> yo
[19:01] <Zackstack> hola
[19:02] <Lazik> Hello all, I am writing a driver for a new NIC. The driver part is going all right but the NIC is a dedicated CPU-RAM chip on the motherboard (a freescale e300 PowerQuicc II pro) so I think I need some kind of server code running on that chip. Is that right?
[19:02] <ChogyDan> repeating because I lost connection: how do I upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04?  only 12.10 is being offered
[19:02] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Now the owner of the viber is root and not my account. do you know why it is like that? and what should I do?
[19:02] <grimeton> ChogyDan: do-release-upgrade -d
[19:02] <chronik> ...
[19:02] <grimeton> ChogyDan: that should offer you 14.04 until 14.04.1 is out
[19:03] <ghlh> ChogyDan, you can do it from the terminal, however the official LT is in July.
[19:03] <chronik> alguna para sexo anal?
[19:03] <bia> dwl: Here is the output of lsusb -t: http://pastebin.com/gEsKR9QX   , sorry I don't know how to interpret it
[19:03] <ChogyDan> grimeton: oh, I see.  It thinks the lts upgrade is still unreleased
[19:03] <Gilrin> wat
[19:03] <ghlh> !ops | chronik
[19:03] <Gilrin> what did you say Chronik.
[19:03] <bia> dw1: Here is the output of lsusb -t: http://pastebin.com/gEsKR9QX   , sorry I don't know how to interpret it
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: do you mean the script that runs it?
[19:04] <dw1> bia: the last number is the speed.. all mind say 480 :/
[19:04] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: no the .Viber directory
[19:04] <dw1> bia: mine*
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: that will update to Utopic
[19:04] <bia> dw1: I also read the forum thread you linked to. I tried the suggested commands at the bottom but I get "tee: /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd/bind File or directory couldn't be found"
[19:04] <chronik> ok ok, solo estaba mirando que los moderadores no estuvieran despistados (8)
[19:04] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: on my box it updated to 14.04
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: did you run viber with sudo by any chance?
[19:04] <mojtaba> no
[19:04] <angelica> varunendra, are you still there?
[19:05] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: no
[19:05] <KGM70> !es | chronik
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: -d is the development release, which is currently utopic
[19:05] <dw1> bia: 1.5 is USB 1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
[19:05] <grimeton> ChogyDan: use -d and see what is offered as update
[19:05] <Lyte101> hey
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: is it the current profile, or the ol one?
[19:06] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: the current profile
[19:06] <Lyte101> any know how to restore default python path to run from /usr/bin/python?
[19:06] <dw1> bia: might be enough for a mouse tho :/
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: could chown it back to your user
[19:06] <bia> dw1: So the kernel thinks the ports are USB 1.0 only
[19:06] <Zelbinian> I would like one day to go by without Shockwave crashing. Just one.
[19:06] <dw1> bia: yep i think thats the issue
[19:06] <ChogyDan> grimeton: it worked, but my computer isn't supported.  It suggests a different distro so I need to sort that out.  Thanks
[19:07] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Is it secure? Will it have the sudo privileges later?
[19:07] <dw1> bia: or thinks the device is
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: shockwave is a windows only plugin. Do you mean adobe flash?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: yes it is secure as only your user will have access...
[19:07] <grimeton> ChogyDan: huh? yeah
[19:07] <Zelbinian> ActionParsnip: Well, Chromium reports the error as "Shockwave Flash has crashed." so... yes?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: a folder doesnt 'have sudo priveledges'
[19:08] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I mean the app.
[19:08] <ChogyDan> grimeton: it's a graphics/unity issue.  I want xubuntu regardless, so whatevs  :)
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: your user has sudo priveledges, not the viber app
[19:08] <dw1> bia: "never saw a mouse that needed more speed than 1.1" http://superuser.com/questions/381768/a-mouse-connected-to-a-usb-1-port-vs-usb-2-0-port
[19:09] <dw1> bia: 1.1 is 12M
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: what is the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:09] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Sorry for asking naive questions. (newbie)
[19:09] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Thansk
[19:09] <mojtaba> Thanks*
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: use a pastebin to make a link, so you don't spam the channel
[19:09] <Radon_3> Hi guys, I am a totaly idiot and asshole when it comes to working with high level stuff like linux and ubuntu... but I have just bought a DVD writer, works amazingly well in ubuntu, I am so happy, but is there a way for me to verrify the data on the disk with the iso file in a byte by byte style?
[19:09] <dw1> bia: " a standard usb mouse will not lose performance on USB1.0"
[19:09] <dw1> bia: is it a special gaming mouse?
[19:09] <angelica> Hi, does anyone know how to fix a wifi connection that keeps cutting in and out? I am on ubuntu 14.4 connecting through an usb adapter
[19:09] <hex`> How can I do a 'ls -f' (because of the directory to list if huge, so -f is mandatory) but with the found file sizes? I tried ls -lahf and it didn't return the size...
[19:10] <Zelbinian> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tzW3W6Ji
[19:10] <Radon_3> dw1: hi dw1, fancy seeing you around man... :)
[19:10] <bia> dw1: Logitech MX518, But I also have the problem with the wireless keyboard if I put it in the 2.0 port, and the keyboard is not a gaming keyboard.
[19:10] <dw1> Radon_3: :o
[19:11] <Radon_3> does any one know how I can verify the data on the disk?
[19:11] <Radon_3> in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:11] <bia> dw1: I also have Ubuntu 14.04 on a desktop and using the same exact mouse it works perfectly fine.
[19:12] <Radon_3> dw1: any idea?
[19:12] <Radon_3> please?
[19:13] <dw1> Radon_3: maybe md5sum /dev/your-cd-drive vs md5sum *.iso
[19:13] <dw1> Radon_3: just a guess
[19:14] <Radon_3> dw1: can I md5sum a whole drive? that's so cool...
[19:14] <dw1> Radon_3: no clue :p
[19:14] <grimeton> Radon_3: openssl md5 -in /dev/sda
[19:15] <pavlos> Radon_3, md5sum checks a file, not a drive
[19:15] <grimeton> pavlos: as _EVERYTHING_ in linux is a file
[19:15] <grimeton> ...
[19:16] <Radon_3> grimeton: that command you gave me was a good one, but it says that "unknown option '-in'"
[19:17] <Radon_3> :(
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: Saucy is EOL next month, just so you know.
[19:17] <angelica> Hi, does anyone know how to fix a wifi connection that keeps cutting in and out? I am on ubuntu 14.4 connecting through an usb adapter
[19:17] <bia> dw1: Is there anything more I can do? Like get some special drivers or something?
[19:17] <grimeton> Radon_3: yeah, for whatever reason openssl doesn't accept in here: cat /dev/sda | openssl md5
[19:17] <Radon_3> I found this http://www.g-loaded.eu/2006/10/07/verify-a-burned-cddvd-image-on-linux/ fokls
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: uninstall flashplugin-installer and enabke the partner repo, then install adobe-flashplugin
[19:18] <Zackstack> can someone help me get hexchat to minimize to tray 14.04
[19:18] <Zelbinian> ActionParsnip: I know, last time I tried to upgrade it said I didn't have enough disk space. And then I downloaded 40GB of things. *shrug*
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> angelica: what wifi chip?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Zackstack: try alltray :-)
[19:18] <dw1> bia: keep digging... http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+usb+mouse+slow
[19:18] <grimeton> Radon_3: openssl md5 /dev/sda
[19:18] <grimeton> Radon_3: should work too
[19:19] <angelica> ActionParsnip: this one: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00DTZYHX4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[19:19] <Radon_3> grimeton: You are awesome man, cat /dev/sr0 | openssl sha512 is working :)
[19:19] <Zackstack> ok
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> angelica: doesnt tell us enough
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> angelica: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,what is the wifi chip?
[19:21] <angelica> ActionParsnip: please let me know whar info you need and how to find it
[19:21] <bia> dw1: If I recall correctly it worked perfectly during the installation and possible on the first boot. I think it stopped working after a reboot. So might this be a kernel problem and can I start ubuntu with an older kernel?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> angelica: i just told you. The command i gave will tell you the chip
[19:21] <dw1> bia: worth a shot
[19:22] <sharperguy> is it possible to setup pulseaudio to route all audio out to two different devices?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> angelica: so Ive already done what tou just requested.....
[19:22] <Radon_3> grimeton: I owe you like crazy... big time... thanks man...like crazy :) Linux is King
[19:22] <Radon_3> oh, data verified : both sha512sums are equal
[19:23] <angelica> ActionParsnip: sorry, I must have lost connection when you sent it. But here is the info: ActionParsnip:
[19:24] <angelica> oops, here ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609480/
[19:24] <ChogyDan> sharperguy: I'm sure the various guides out there would work on Ubuntu as well
[19:25] <sharperguy> ChogyDan: thanks
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> angelica: run: echo "options rtl8192cu swenc=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192cu.conf
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> angelica: then reboot to test
[19:27] <angelica> ActionParsnip: it says: echo "options rtl8192cu swenc=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192cu.conf
[19:27] <angelica> jesus f... one sec...
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> angelica: what says it?  It output to stdout as well as the file. Reboot to test
[19:29] <angelica> ActionParsnip: Do I just reboot now?  I would like to put my Ubuntu box to sleep with a script from the commandline.  For long-winded reasons, I need to be able to do this as non-root.  How do I do this as a normal user?
[19:35] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I import my old database in viber to the newly installed one?
[19:38] <Sirrandom> hello
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> angelica: its just a new OS for you. You'll learn as you use it.
[19:39] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I dont know what you did, but whatever it was, it worked!!! thank you so much!!!
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> angelica: its an option to load the module with. The file makes the module always load with that extra option to do software decoding. Can help in some cases.
[19:43] <ghlh> mlabbe, Would a sleep command from the cli be fine?
[19:43] <angelica> ActionParsnip: the module = the wifi device? what is tee?
[19:43] <JoshDreamland> hi all; my IBus tray icon displays the gtk-missing-icon image instead of the little keyboard or little cog icons
[19:43] <JoshDreamland> is there a way I can switch it to some dark icon theme?
[19:44] <JoshDreamland> or at least get it to not display a red "no" sign in my tray? :P
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> angelica: the module is the kernel driver that makes it work
[19:44] <JoshDreamland> it's mildly alarming
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> angelica: tee is a shell command to add to a text file
[19:46] <angelica> ActionParsnip: the kernel is the same as a driver on windows?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: isnt there an option to inherit other themes in the theme file? I seem to remember that being a thing
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> angelica: no, the kernel is the core of the OS
[19:48] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I am running viber and with top command I see that root is running the viber. Do you know what should I do? I have change the directory privileges with chown -R
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> angelica: your system loads the rtl8192cu module and then the kernel can talk to the hardware. The Linux kernel is modular so things can be loaded and unloaded as needed
[19:48] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I guess I have some reading to do... do you recommend some sort of super basic manual for definitively non computer savvy mortals like me?
[19:48] <mlabbe> ghlh: what do you mean by sleep command? you mean like bash sleep?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> !manual | angelica
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: maybe it has to run as root... If you run: whoami ,does it say 'root'?
[19:49] <JoshDreamland> I'm not seeing much under the options list, ActionParsnip
[19:49] <ghlh> mlabbe, from the terminal you can run a command to sleep, from what I have seen this command has alternatives per user hardware.
[19:50] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: no
[19:50] <JoshDreamland> there's an option to show the tray icon, but that's about it
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: its in the guts of the theme pack, nothing to do with any options
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: you could contact the theme author
[19:51] <JoshDreamland> I'm not even sure what theme I'm using
[19:51] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: when I run viber from dash, it runs too process, one under my account name, and the other one with root. When I close viber, the root one is still running!
[19:52] <angelica> ubottu: thanks!
[19:52] <angelica> ActionParsnip: thank you so much for your time and your help
[19:52] <angelica> hold on... it is modular, so there are modules that might not work... maybe thats why I cant connect my ipod
[19:52] <angelica> well, I can connect it but it doesnt appear connected, doesnt authomatically mount?
[19:52] <angelica> agrrrr it is happening again, the internet cuts out!
[19:52] <JoshDreamland> aha
[19:53] <mlabbe> ghlh: okay, what should I do?
[19:53] <JoshDreamland> you got it, ActionParsnip
[19:53] <ghlh> mlabbe, I just asked if just a command from the terminal to sleep is adequate.
[19:53] <JoshDreamland> thanks!
[19:54] <angelica> ActionParsnip: what can I do if the wifi still cuts out? :S
[19:55] <mlabbe> ghlh: yes
[19:56] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I think it cut out when I plugged my ipod in
[19:56] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: when I run viber from dash, it runs too process, one under my account name, and the other one with root. When I close viber, the root one is still running!
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> angelica: id suggest you report a bug in that case
[19:56] <sun_> Hello
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: weird
[19:56] <sun_> there
[19:57] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Is it a security problem?
[19:57] <ghlh> mlabbe, Cool, probably a good start, I have not messes with this myself, I was just wondering if you actually needed a script. http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[19:57] <ghlh> messed*
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: sounds like a weird app. Have you contacted viber to query it?
[19:58] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I will do that
[19:58] <mlabbe> ghlh: yeah, I saw that stuff. doesn't it need root?
[19:58] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I will, thanks again
[19:59] <ghlh> mlabbe, Not to sleep as far as I know, but as I said not an area I have messed with.
[20:01] <ghlh> mlabbe, I have to reboot to ubuntu I will be right back if I can actually help.
[20:01] <nikomx> Hi
[20:02] <Charlie> Yo