[20:19] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue737 up for review and final edits: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue737 :D


[00:02] <Brainstorm> Updates for Bangladesh: +213 cases (now 1.6 million), +2 deaths (now 27928), +20764 tests (now 10.6 million) since a day ago
[14:33] <Brainstorm> Updates for Bangladesh: +266 cases (now 1.6 million), +6 deaths (now 27934), +19670 tests (now 10.7 million) since 14 hours ago


[14:27] <jarnos> I installed 14.04.1 with encrypted home, and now swap is not working.
[14:31] <jarnos> I had same problem with ubuntustudio.
[14:38] <jarnos> Nothing about it in release notes.


[14:30] <thafreak> Wow, room was pretty quiet yesterday I guess
[14:36] <BiosElement> Heh, yes
[22:03] <BiosElement> Ahh bugger, I won't be able to make the next ubuntu hour. >.< Family birthday heh.
[22:04] <BiosElement> Anyone with reddit, +1 this for me please: http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/f8n7j/cubecreate_3d_game_engine_platform_looking_for/
[22:04] <BiosElement> That's for the project I co-founded. ^_^
[22:09] <canthus13> So... what's wrong with the Sauerbraten engine as it stands now?
[22:17] <BiosElement> What's wrong with it? Well for starters it's not really a project open to collaberation.
[22:19] <BiosElement> CubeCreate is based off Syntensity, which was created to allow advanced in-game scripting and our goal is to create a modern cross-platform engine.
[22:20] <BiosElement> One really easy example is this, Sauer players want a campaign mode. As in a real in-depth one. Problem is, CubeScript isn't nearly up for the task. However CubeCreate's Lua-based scripting is. ^_^
[22:21] <BiosElement> Not to mention different gamemodes such as racing, drawing and CTF all done with the scripting language, not compiled code. http://syntensity.com/ has a video (With horrid music) showing a tad of what's possible.
[22:21] <BiosElement> CubeCreate is to Sauerbraten/Cube2 what Garry's Mod is to Half Life 2 basically.
[22:21] <canthus13> My kids would love that.
[22:22] <canthus13> They play co-op mode almost exclusively.
[22:22]  * canthus13 could prolly convince them to playtest it... :)
[22:23] <BiosElement> Funny you should say that canthus13...
[22:23] <BiosElement> We're actally working on a co-op gamemode sorta like Sven Co-Op
[22:23] <BiosElement> ^_^
[22:29] <canthus13> Heh. my boys think it's hilarious to erase the ground out from under someone...
[22:32] <BiosElement> haha


[00:54] <pugsofwrath> This may be impossible, but I want to force OpenGL to update to the current version
[00:55] <pugsofwrath> I have an older laptop, and can't play HL2 or TF2
[00:55] <pugsofwrath> OpenGLis currently on 1.4 on my laptop
[00:58] <pugsofwrath> I'll port this on a forum
[00:58] <pugsofwrath> post
[01:03] <bazhang> why do you need that version
[01:04] <knome> bazhang, gone
[01:04] <bazhang> hah yeah
[01:04] <bazhang> perhaps he meant opencl
[01:10] <knome> he might have very well meant opengl, hoping that would solve his isseus
[01:10] <knome> *issues too
[17:11] <superprower> Hi. Is there a way to turn on images in Elinks? I see this option in menu, but nothing happens. I tried links2, but when i start in in graphics mode (with -g key), it starts in new window, but i want to keep him in my guake terminal.
[17:14] <Pici> I believe it should only work somewhere with framebuffer support, which is really just limited to the tty consoles (F1-F6).  There may be ways to emulate that in a terminal, but I'm not aware of any.
[17:14] <Pici> superprower:
[17:14] <Pici> %^
[17:39] <superprower>  Another question. I installed SSH, in config file i changed port and disabled password auth., on phone i installed connect-bot and generated a key. Is this way OK or it is still not secured? I didn't copied any keys anywhere - i just connected, asked yes on "use a key?" or something like that and entered my password
[18:20] <holstein> superprower: i personally created keys on computers.. tested the connection, *then* moved my keys to the phone in connectbot
[18:20] <holstein> superprower: if the question is, "is this a safe solution?", it will work as advertised.. nothing about xubuntu, or the ubuntu ssh server package will make it more or less secure than it is upstream
[18:21] <knome> i guess key auth is generally considered safer, considering you use keys with passphrases
[18:21] <holstein> i think with any security questions, the answers are always a bit relative, and depend on the needs, and the work flow.. *many* users trust ssh
[18:21] <holstein> knome: i used to double up.. a key with a passphrase :)
[18:21] <knome> exactly what i meant :)
[18:22] <holstein> but there are other "links in the chain"..
[18:22] <knome> sure, but that's outside the scope of the connection safety
[18:25] <holstein> i think the ususals.. no root logins, changing the default port, something that blocks IPs etc after certain failed attempts to login.. those help with the ssh server connection
[18:26] <knome> the solution that blocks the connections in the safest way is not to use SSH ;>
[18:27] <holstein> knome: :)
[18:34] <rio_zenta> Hello. Can anyone test the "Action Buttons" plugin on the panel for me. Specifically, the "Lock Screen" option. Mine seems to not work anymore.
[18:34] <rio_zenta> Or possibly never worked.
[19:36] <rio_zenta> Hi?
[19:49] <xubuntu29w> hi need help you guys dont help me every time i came here
[19:50] <xubuntu29w> ??
[19:50] <xubuntu29w> ?
[19:50] <elfy> what with?
[19:51] <rio_zenta> hi xubuntu29w
[19:55] <xubuntu29w> just you guys quit and not answer e
[19:55] <xubuntu29w> rio zenta
[19:56] <rio_zenta> xubuntu29w, I will answer if you ask...
[19:56] <xubuntu29w> yes
[19:56] <xubuntu29w> ok
[19:56] <xubuntu29w> the problem isOn my Xubuntu desktop the mouse cursor gets sometimes stuck in drag mode (hand symbol) and although the mouse cursor moves but the pointer does not. Does anybody has the same problem ? Is there a simple way out of it ? I am wondering if this is a bug or some (for me) hidden screen lock feature. The only way out of this hang is to switch to another tty and restart lightdm. The problem mostly appears when having Firef
[19:57] <xubuntu29w> e Firefox window to another. I may press a button accidentally while doing this, but I am not aware of this.
[19:57] <rio_zenta> xubuntu29w, screenshot??
[19:58] <xubuntu29w> my machine is Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz,1GB RAM,Intel 946GZ Express Chipset Family.
[19:59] <xubuntu29w> How to show screenshot here...?
[20:00] <xubuntu29w> ?
[20:01] <elfy> try turning off composting
[20:01] <elfy> settings - window manager tweaks - compositor - first option
[20:01] <xubuntu29w> elfy does it fixes it
[20:01] <knome> xubuntu29w, try it
[20:02] <elfy> xubuntu29w: no idea - I don't get the issue, just try it :)
[20:02] <xubuntu29w> ok i will try
[20:02] <xubuntu29w> is there is a problem with my wireless mouse
[20:03] <xubuntu29w> or the pc
[20:03] <elfy> oh
[20:03] <elfy> well I would try a wired one see if you get the same issue
[20:03] <xubuntu29w> ok thanks man you are the man who is online here
[20:04] <xubuntu29w> other are just showing
[20:05] <elfy> that's irc
[20:05] <elfy> that's how it works
[20:05] <elfy> I've been in the channel all day - just not reading it
[20:05] <xubuntu29w> ok can i play games on xubuntu
[20:06] <elfy> depends what - I'd have no idea - I don't play games on pc's
[20:06] <xubuntu29w> elfy do you run xubuntu
[20:07] <elfy> yes - please - just ask questions and when people who are reading can answer they will
[20:07] <elfy> if you just want to chat then /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[20:08] <xubuntu29w> ok thanks by do fun in lithuania
[20:56] <xubuntu26w> hi, I have some partitions I dont what they are because I want to delete them
[20:58] <xubuntu26w> What can I delete here http://i.imgur.com/KjqwvHO.png I just want window partitions
[21:06] <adrenaline_> You can delete linux-swap and your ext4 partition if you want to keep windows.
[21:10] <xubuntu26w> adrenaline_: but what are the orther partitions ? like sda7 or sda5
[21:11] <rio_zenta> why do you have so many partitions?
[21:11] <rio_zenta> it is NTFS. basically storage.
[21:11] <rio_zenta> You should see them in linux as external storage media
[21:12] <xubuntu26w> Can i remove sda3 if i want just windows for the moment ?
[21:16] <rio_zenta> xubuntu26w, I'd recommend you go through each partition physically to see what is inside them. Some may not be empty and contain important info
[21:19] <xubuntu26w> rio_zenta: I see nothing I'm gonna try to mount them in home
[23:36] <xubuntu79w> can I install a vivid package if I'm on trusty?
[23:41] <knome> xubuntu79w, why would you want to do that?
[23:43] <xubuntu79w> knome: I want to install mpv for trusty it's v 0.3.4-1 and for vivid 0.7.2-1
[23:44] <knome> xubuntu79w, installing packages from other releases isn't really advisable, and definietly not supported
[23:44] <knome> xubuntu79w, isn't there a PPA available?
[23:45] <xubuntu79w> knome: look here http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/mpv for trusty I have this ppa ppa:mc3man/trusty-media ( https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-media )
[23:46] <knome> so if you have the version from a PPA, why do you want the one from the vivid repository?
[23:47] <xubuntu79w> knome: because they are a huge difference of version doesitmake any differences?
[23:48] <xubuntu79w> ahre*
[23:48] <xubuntu79w> there*
[23:50] <knome> xubuntu79w, the ppa says it has 0.7.2 and you said vivid has the same version
[23:52] <knome> okay


[02:37] <DanaG> http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/asus-nx90jq-hands-on-dual-touchpads-unite/ -- ooh, perfect for multi-pointer X.
[02:47] <MTecknology> !info openbox
[02:47] <MTecknology> tap tap
[02:48] <MTecknology> how do I check the version of an app?
[02:49] <MTecknology> oh :(
[02:49] <MTecknology> I just saw it download; it's installing openbox 3.4.8 instead of 3.4.9 :(
[02:57] <crimsun> openbox |    3.4.9-2 |      unstable | source, alpha, amd64, armel, hppa, hurd-i386, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, sparc
[02:57] <crimsun> do you need a sync from sid?
[03:02] <DanaG> weird... my notify-osd is really, really, really tiny.
[03:02] <DanaG> Looks like size 2 font, whereas the rest of my desktop uses 8.5 point font.
[03:02] <DanaG> Okay, maybe it's 3 points.
[03:03] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/469508
[03:12] <DanaG> grr, gnome's zero-volume-is-exactly-the-same-as-mute behavior irks me to no end.
[03:12] <DanaG> Because zero volume should NOT assert the mute pin!
[03:13] <DanaG> Then again, KDE did something even weirder: every time it tried to play a sound, it actually deactivated the hardware-mute!
[03:13] <bjsnider> why not?
[03:13] <bjsnider> zero master volume is not equal to mute?
[03:14] <DanaG> In Windows, I can hold volume-down and hit zero-volume without the mute LED going orange.
[03:14] <DanaG> Some test case: press hardware mute.  Turn volume to zero.  Turn volume back up.  Card will unmute.
[03:14] <DanaG> In Windows, it will stay muted.
[03:15] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/332081
[03:15] <bjsnider> so you want to be able to adjust the volume while muted
[03:19] <DanaG> Interestingly enough, when Windows Media Center is open, then Windows does do the zero-asserts-mute thing.
[03:19] <bjsnider> here's another thing you can do on windows: get a severe virus infection
[03:19] <DanaG> Not if you're not a n00bcake.
[03:20] <DanaG> Or at least, it's harder.
[03:23] <DanaG> I also had the annoyance of my rfkill LED blinking on network activity, until I installed the compat-wireless stuff and set led_mode.
[03:25] <DanaG> *blue*orange*blue*orange*blue*orange*blue*orange*blue*orange*
[03:45] <DanaG> hmm, all that new GTK alpha stuff... will that mean we can use alpha-transparent wallpapers and have them actually work (and show the underlying stuff through compositing)?
[03:47] <bjsnider> sure
[04:02] <DanaG> Oh, and I found a wallpaper that looks nice with the latest Human theme in the repos (still same as Karmic?).
[04:02] <DanaG> Now we just need gnome-appearance-properties to offer the Alpha channel setting.  =þ
[04:09] <bjsnider> those types of features will be worked into future mutter versions
[04:19] <DanaG> Mutter?  What does Mutter have to do with it?
[04:20] <DanaG> All we need is the option to choose R,G,B,A in gnome desktop settings thingy, instead of just R,G,B.
[04:20] <DanaG> ... and have it do the same for loaded png images, and such -- keep the alpha channel.
[04:21] <DanaG> I'm curious about this "client-decorated windows" thing, though.
[04:21] <DanaG> Interesting use case for the alpha stuff: compiz cube, with wallpaper being an image of a window or a door, with transparent inside.
[04:21] <DanaG> So, if you look through the window or door, you see the other virtual desktops.
[04:47] <colombofish> I have recently installed ubuntu 9.10 karmic version. Its fast and every things work. I want to setup my WIFI. The GUI is not helping me to setup. Can anyone help Please?
[04:53] <bjsnider> colombofish, not in this channel. go to #ubuntu
[05:24] <DanaG> oh, and I wish eog had alpha channel support.
[05:24] <DanaG> That is, alpha in the image would make it REALLY transparent.
[05:30] <bjsnider> DanaG is all about the desktop bling
[05:30] <DanaG> Actually, that could be useful.
[05:30] <DanaG> Bling for bling's sake is silly if overdone... but used correctly, effects can be nice.
[05:31] <DanaG> I'd love to be able to preview images with transparent parts actually being transparent.
[05:31] <bjsnider> oh, so you think compiz is silly?
[05:31] <DanaG> No, but "burn", specifically, is.
[05:31] <bjsnider> and the stupid water effects?
[05:31] <DanaG> They're amusing to play with, but I don't use the ripple notification -- too distracting.
[05:32] <DanaG> I use Lamp for min/unmin, Dream for open, and Sidekick for close.
[05:32] <DanaG> and menus use Vacuum.
[05:32] <DanaG> So it's like the mouse cursor "slurps" up the menus.
[05:32] <DanaG> And I have the times short... 250 ms or less.
[05:33] <bjsnider> i hope the gnome-devs don't bother with any of that on gnome-shell
[05:33] <DanaG> Why?  Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it shouldn't be possible.
[05:34] <DanaG> I don't like anchovies.... does that mean pizza makers should stop offering anchovies?
[05:34] <DanaG> Not the best analogy, but, eh.
[05:34] <bjsnider> because other than close, none of the things exist anymore
[05:35] <bjsnider> well, i guess menus still do
[05:35] <DanaG> As it is right now, when the animations for close and minimize were exactly the same..... that's bad.
[05:35] <bjsnider> in individual programs
[05:35] <DanaG> And the open animation sucked last time I tried it.
[05:35] <DanaG> With my compiz settings, my desktop feels snazzy, but not stupid.
[05:37] <bjsnider> compiz has too many options, too many plugins, too many things that can be turned on/off
[05:54] <DanaG> I'd agree with that, actually.
[05:54] <DanaG> Same thing with qtcurve.... options paralysis.
[05:54] <DanaG> ... but that's even worse.
[05:54] <DanaG> Actually, most of my settings could even be done with simple-ccsm.
[05:55] <bjsnider> i like simple-ccsm
[05:55] <DanaG> I did have to change window-types a bit.... group dialog with regular-window, and popup and dropdown and such menus together.
[05:55] <bjsnider> but i'm sure the fact that the options and plugins exist at all is cause for hte code to overly large/slow/complex
[05:55] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Dana_Compiz.profile
[05:56] <DanaG> weird... I hit super-w, and my whole desktop went transparent-ish.
[05:56] <DanaG> That's supposed to trigger water.
[05:57] <DanaG> Time to disable water, then.
[05:57] <DanaG> hmm, and colorfilter isn't working.
[05:58] <DanaG> I have super-tab set to circle-switcher, and alt-tab is static switcher with animation speed set to be essentially instant.
[06:01] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/EliteBook-lucid-20100105-4.png
[06:01] <DanaG> hmm, boot has gotten a bit cleaner now.
[06:02] <DanaG> But, is ureadahead supposed to run TWICE?
[10:29] <Guest51408> hi all
[10:30] <Guest51408> I get an unsatisfied dipendence
[10:30] <Guest51408> k3b: Dipende: k3b-data (= 1.68.0~alpha3-0ubuntu1) ma 1.69.0~alpha4-1ubuntu2 è installato
[10:30] <Guest51408> can I force it?
[10:35] <BUGabundo_work> morning
[10:51] <Adys> Xorg segfaulting on startup with nvidia official drivers =/ known bug?
[10:51] <BUGabundo_work> dont use nvidia site drivers :p
[10:51] <BUGabundo_work> keep with repos or X team PPA
[10:52] <Adys> mm fair enough
[10:52] <Adys> the repo ones are quite old though
[10:52] <Adys> 18x
[10:52] <Adys> I'm running 195.30
[10:53] <Adys> Synaptic also crashing on startup, Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.19.2/gtk/gtkrbtree.c:1098:_gtk_rbtree_find_offset: assertion failed: (tree)
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> Adys: as i said: PPA
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> it has 195
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> but : why do u need 195??
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> does it fix any serious bug u have?
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> 185 is stable and works well enough for me
[10:56] <Adys> because its miles better than 18x branch, fps-wise in games
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> ah.. i dont play games..
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> plus it needs a bump for the new X
[10:56] <Adys> whats the ppa again? xorg-edgers?
[10:58] <yofel> Guest51408: that should have been resolved with -1ubuntu3. Did you run apt-get update before?
[10:58] <yofel> morning BUGabundo_work
[10:59] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: and 195 has a lot of performance improvements (especially noticable in kwin)
[10:59] <BUGabundo_work> ahh
[10:59] <BUGabundo_work> ok i guess i'll get it from bjsnider  PPA
[10:59] <BUGabundo_work> why the heck aint archive updated yet?
[11:00] <yofel> no idea, doesn't at least edgers have 190?
[11:00]  * BUGabundo_work pulls our fiendly italian X dev ears
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: 195 i think
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> but x edgers doesnt work with X 1.5
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> or at least didnt last time i tried
[11:00] <yofel> hm, well, I'm using bjsniders ppa anyway
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> have  to ask sarvat for an update
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> oh cool
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> i'll update tonigh
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> (and brake my system a 3rd time)
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> need a quick test
[11:01]  * BUGabundo_work loves to find GNU tools bugs
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> create a dir and sub dir
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> symlink to the sub dir from top level
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> enter the link with cd
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> rm ../somefile
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> result: FAIL
[11:02] <yofel> oh yeah, that's broken
[11:02] <yofel> noticed that too awhile ago
[11:02] <yofel> forgot about it...
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> wanna file it?
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> i'll push upstream
[11:02] <yofel> I  have /tmp symlinked to $HOME/tmp
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> and add to my GNU bug list :D
[11:04] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: do you know what is broken to cause that?
[11:04] <BUGabundo_work> i have a friend here thats says he knows
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> waiting for him to have a few free min to explain
[11:05] <yofel> since it doesn't matter if I use ls cd rm or whatever
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> wait
[11:05] <yofel> only pwd doesn't seem broken
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> all of them break!?
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> ext4 bug?
[11:05] <yofel> ah wait
[11:06] <yofel> s/cd/cp
[11:07] <yofel> 'ls ..' shows the wrong dir
[11:08] <yofel> bash completion on 'rm ../somethin' works, but rm says no such file or dir
[11:08] <yofel> cp too
[11:08] <yofel> mv too
[11:08] <Adys> how do I disable the auto-resizing of maximized windows when I move them? its extremely annoying
[11:09] <Adys> (kwin)
[11:09] <yofel> actually almost everything that accesses the FS: stat, file, chmod, ...
[11:11] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: can u test it on another FS ?
[11:12] <yofel> if I had any...
[11:12] <yofel> ah wait
[11:12] <yofel> I do have a btrfs test-fs on my server
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> 180 ppl in here and no one to test it
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> i can try it on debian and ext3
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> $ mkdir -p 1/2/3
[11:15] <BUGabundo_work> $ ll ../.. total 4 drwxr-xr-x 3 mainroad mainroad 4096 Jan  6 11:14 2
[11:15] <yofel> nope, doesn't matter if it's btrfs, tmpfs, linked over different FS
[11:15] <BUGabundo_work> $ touch /tmp/1/2/foo
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> $ rm ../foo
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> $ ls /tmp/1/2/ 3
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> the darn thing removed foo, but autocmplete showed /tmp
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> FAIL
[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> so autocomplete bash bug ?
[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> + pwd
[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> or every other tool?
[11:18] <yofel> no idea, I would have to know how its supposed  to work for that
[11:20] <ripps> Are we going to see kernel 2.6.33 in Lucid? Or are we waiting until it matures a little before testing the waters
[11:20] <Trewas> BUGabundo_work: looks like bash feature, tcsh works differently
[11:20] <BUGabundo_work> ripps: no idea
[11:21] <BUGabundo_work> ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[11:21] <BUGabundo_work> Trewas: then is a bash-autocomplete bug
[11:21] <yofel> yep, could be a bash bug, there is a 'pwd' builtin command
[11:24] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[11:24] <BUGabundo_work> can someone file it please, and sub me to it
[11:26] <yofel> lemme test it in a vm with bash3 first
[11:32] <yofel> heh, same in my hardy VM
[11:32] <yofel> bash 'pwd' != /bin/pwd
[11:32] <yofel> nice 'feature'
[11:34] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:34] <BUGabundo_work> $ /bin/pwd /tmp/1/2/3
[11:36] <BUGabundo_work> so lets trace $ pwd
[11:36] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:56] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: bug 503761
[11:59] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: thanks. confirmed and subed
[12:00]  * BUGabundo_work wonders if he is subbed to the n2n/TUN bug
[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> cwillu_at_work: did u progress anything more on the TUN bug?
[12:05] <tgpraveen12> !info evince
[12:31] <yofel> BUGabundo_lunch: heh, found debian 538891 just now
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: cool. i forgot to look it up
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> since i can reproduce here too
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> with latest unstable
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> have u linked them on LP?
[13:10] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: I linked both bugs
[13:11] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[13:11] <BUGabundo_work> i was just going to do it
[13:11] <BUGabundo_work> didnt show up here
[13:12] <BUGabundo_work> thanks, once again
[13:16] <cwillu_at_work> poke?
[13:17] <cwillu_at_work> re tun, no, I've been having fun with neon code on armel
[13:18] <BUGabundo_work> weeeehh
[13:21] <bmm> Hi. I've installed CompizConfig settings manager in Lucid but the Shadow Windows option in the Decorator plugin does not seem to have any effect. Is that a bug or intentional?
[13:33] <bmm> I've just updated and I'm going to try to log in again, if that fails, I'm filing a bug. Cya!
[13:52] <bmm> I've filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/503797 and the problem will be dealt with there.  Thanks BUGabundo_work and Amaranth_ !
[14:49] <BUGabundo_work> bmm: as long as it is working for u :P
[14:50] <bmm> I mis-understood the option, the implementation and the description are not in sync. If I encounter that same thing in the C++ rewrite, I'll file another bug, but then titled "the description is wrong" ;)
[14:51] <Hew> anyone else have a problem with synaptic not working?
[14:51] <bmm> Hew: I have not upgraded yet, what is the command line output? Sounds scary :?
[14:52] <Hew> there's no output, it's very strange
[14:52] <Hew> well if I use gksu there is no output
[14:52] <Hew> if I run it as user:
[14:52] <Hew> Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.19.2/gtk/gtkrbtree.c:1098:_gtk_rbtree_find_offset: assertion failed: (tree)
[14:52] <Hew> Aborted
[14:53] <Hew> which now looks like bug 503781
[14:54] <BUGabundo_work> Hew: trying now
[14:54] <BUGabundo_work> $ synaptic ** Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.19.2/gtk/gtkrbtree.c:1098:_gtk_rbtree_find_offset: assertion failed: (tree) Aborted
[14:57] <Hew> might already be fixed, bug 503576
[14:58] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[15:02] <ripps> Does anybody know of any good tools to downscale and convert 720p mkv's into a standard definition movie dvd?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ripps ffmpeg might do it or mencoder
[15:03] <Hew> ripps, devede is a good all-in-one program for creating video DVDs
[15:04] <cwillu_at_work> anybody remember any of the quoting issues with completion in bash 4?
[15:05] <tobylane> by movie dvd, do you mean divx/xvid?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> ripps, handbrake is another if you like guis ...slow but effective
[15:06] <ripps> tobylane: lane I mean a standard video dvd, so mpeg2 I assume
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ripps, I just ripped a dvd to mpg with handbrake , it has lots of decode/encode options ..I must admit it was my first time trying it due to dvd encoding wasn't being recognized by ffmpeg , very unusual
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> arent we promoting pitivi for lucid cycle?
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> so stop using everything else and burn try that new app
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> file ALL bugs
[15:39] <acicula> a real poroper editor?
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> in a cycle or two, sure
[15:43] <acicula> cool, all i know linux didnt had much in the sense of movie editors so far
[15:45] <BUGabundo_work> acicula: please try it
[15:47] <joaopinto> video editing is not my area, but LiVES is also popular
[15:48] <joaopinto> if you don't use the official package which is broken :P
[15:49] <acicula> seems the karmic version is also .13.3
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> joaopinto: let me guess: getdeb downloads? :p
[15:52] <joaopinto> BUGabundo_work, yup, we work around a problem related to dpkg, the package on ubuntu comes directly from debian, it works fine on debian but not on Ubuntu due to different default flags for dpkg
[15:55] <BUGabundo_work> LOL
[15:55] <BUGabundo_work> bug filed?
[15:55] <BUGabundo_work> patch submited?
[15:56] <joaopinto> bug filed, no patch submited, software author getting mad
[15:57] <BUGabundo_work> User question of the day: "how can i tweak Ubuntu to support easy passwords like User:User?"  LOL reply : $ sudo passwd user http://twitter.com/marcopinheiro/status/7444439338
[15:57] <BUGabundo_work> joaopinto: mad?
[15:57] <joaopinto> yes, because his application his broken by default on Ubuntu, it get's a lot of complains from users, and he didn't got any help on the fix which is not software related, it's package built related
[16:05] <BUGabundo_work> ahh
[16:10] <BluesKaj> strange happenenings, when I call up a file like /etc/fstab in kate it shows blank if I use kdesudo kate with the run command box , but if i call it up with sudo nano in the terminal it's all there . Also id I just use the run command without sudo then kate shows all the text/data ....any ideas what could be causing this ?
[16:11] <yofel> lemme try...
[16:14] <yofel> BluesKaj: WFM
[16:16] <BluesKaj> yofel, WFM?
[16:16] <yofel> works for me
[16:16] <yofel> either running 'kdesudo kate /etc/fstab' or 'kdesudo kate' and opening the file later both work fine
[16:19] <BluesKaj> yofel, works with konqueror but not kate ...very strange. Another thing , if click on properties on a large file such as a 5G video , it takes almost 30 secs before the properties dialog comes up
[16:22] <yofel> BluesKaj: seems to me like it reads the whole file before opening the properties window
[16:22] <yofel> tired it with a cd iso, now my NFS mount is stuck until the window opens...
[16:23] <yofel> *tried
[16:29] <BluesKaj> yofel, are you getting this when opening some files ? "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly"
[16:34] <yofel> BluesKaj: not yet, any specific file type?
[16:42]  * BUGabundo_work points guilt finger to apparmor
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work> BluesKaj: time to run a debsum ?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> yofel, yeah text or bash files using kate , using gksudo kate path/to/file works in place of kdesudo
[16:44] <arand> Is the evolution-documentation-en package supposed to go? As suggested by full-upgrade.
[16:46] <BUGabundo_work> arand: come on... dont fo full upgrades like that
[16:46] <BUGabundo_work> arand: $ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[16:47] <arand> Have done but this specific thing has remained like this for a couple of weeks now...
[16:48] <arand> the evolution set of packages are being held back since they want to remove that package...
[16:53] <Crashbit> mm
[16:54] <Crashbit> my aptitude fails today
[16:54] <Crashbit> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main libc6-i386 2.11~20100104-0ubuntu1 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[16:57] <arand> Crashbit: try other server, try apt-get..?
[17:03] <Crashbit> o mm, apt-get works fine
[17:18] <SwedeMike> nice, Xorg works again on my nvidia-machine for the first time in a month
[17:24] <BluesKaj> SwedeMike, xorg isn't really necessary with the new kernel modules , it vcan help in some situations but there is no default xorg.conf file
[17:26] <SwedeMike> BluesKaj: hm, let me rephrase. X is working again, before it wouldn't start at all, it crashed (I don't remember if it was SIGSEGV or if it was some other signal when it crashed)
[17:26] <SwedeMike> so it didn't even revert to the low-res fail-safe
[17:27] <BluesKaj> I see , I've neen getting some strange unpredictable logins like dropping to a TTY and having to startx etc
[17:29] <SwedeMike> well, I'm not using it much, this is on a test machine I have that I boot once a week or so
[17:48] <alex_mayorga> when I do "lspci" I get "Bus error" is that a bug, faulty hardware or both?
[17:52] <arand> alex_mayorga: works on this side, no idea if bug/hw-err.
[18:10] <tgpraveen12> !info gnome-shell
[18:14] <alex_mayorga> arand: thanks
[18:14] <alex_mayorga> any other ideas?
[18:16] <yofel> alex_mayorga: 'Bus error' is all that it says?
[18:16] <yofel> maybe run 'strace lspci' and see where it errors out
[18:18] <alex_mayorga> yofel, that's all, trying your command right now
[18:49] <oorah> i tried out the xubuntu daily live and something weird is up with the panels
[18:49] <oorah> they're very unusable looking
[18:49] <oorah> they're bigger and the open applications are not shown at the bottomm panel which seems useless
[18:50] <oorah> anyone here?
[18:53] <rr72> people are here
[18:53] <rr72> :-P
[18:55] <alex_mayorga> yofel: that tells a bit more
[18:55] <alex_mayorga> !paste
[18:55] <oorah> there is a bug with the panels in xfce
[18:55] <oorah> they have window borders and the bottom panel is useless
[18:56] <oorah> the open applications are not included into the bottom panel
[18:56] <alex_mayorga> this is my lspci bug/error can somebody, please take a look http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4ad7b529
[18:57] <oorah> i know almost nothing about scripts sorry
[18:58] <yofel> alex_mayorga: err... interesting ^^
[18:58] <oorah> is kde getting any faster or is it still slow?
[18:58] <yofel> I'm clueless
[18:58] <oorah> i like the look of kde but hate the performance
[19:01] <alex_mayorga> yofel: thanks, I guess I file a bug, right?
[19:02] <yofel> hm..
[19:03] <yofel> can you run 'debsums pciutils' first?
[19:03] <afv> hi. my suspend (resume?) is broken. trying to resume i get only a gray screen. it was working fine with jaunty/karmic and at lucid's pre-alpha.
[19:03] <yofel> alex_mayorga: just to make sure that the binary isn't corrupt
[19:03] <afv> nvidia, 195.30
[19:04] <afv> i can only go to a tty (still with a gray screen) after doing a SysRq+R and the Ctrl+Alt+..
[19:05] <alex_mayorga> yofel: debsums: can't check pciutils file /usr/bin/lspci (Reading from filehandle failed)
[19:05] <alex_mayorga> I guess is the faulty HD on this laptop
[19:05] <afv> can anybody help me debugging it?
[19:05] <yofel> alex_mayorga: could be, but run a fsck first
[19:06] <alex_mayorga> just that command?
[19:07] <yofel> alex_mayorga: moment please
[19:08] <yofel> alex_mayorga: 'sudo touch /forcefsck' should check the / FS on reboot
[19:08] <yofel> afv: hm, can you actually do something in the ttys?
[19:09] <afv> yes, but i can't see it
[19:09] <alex_mayorga> yofel. thanks I'll confirm next time I reboot
[19:09] <yofel> how do you know then that you're on a tty?
[19:09] <afv> because i do login and do a sudo reboot now :p
[19:09] <yofel> alex_mayorga: ok :)
[19:09] <afv> and watch the disk activity when logging in too.. lol
[19:09] <yofel> afv: ah ok ^^
[19:10] <yofel> that should be a X crash then
[19:11] <yofel> afv: since 195.30 is the beta driver afaik you should run the nvidia-bug-report.sh script and report the bug to nvidia
[19:12] <afv> hmm, but it is happening with older versions too
[19:13] <yofel> really? hm... do  you find anything useful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old?
[19:13] <afv> i'll take a look. just a sec
[19:34] <rr72> update gnome cache fail for anyone besides me?
[19:40] <wind-rider> hi
[19:40] <wind-rider> does anybody know how to change wacom settings in lucid?
[19:40] <wind-rider> there is no Xorg.conf anymore to edit
[19:41] <wind-rider> I'd like to set my mouse to relative mode
[19:42] <rr72> is launchpad down?
[19:42] <rr72> i can't seem to file a bug report
[19:53] <geser> does lucid have currently problems with locales?
[19:59] <afv> back. yofel, there's nothing special at xorg's log
[20:02] <afv> http://pastebin.com/d2ea69b61
[20:29] <gspr_> Anyone have any experience getting radeonhd with kms up and running (kernel 2.6.33)?
[20:30] <gspr_> Without passing radeon.modeset=1 to the kernel, everything is working fine, except for KMS, which I'd really like (for vblank).
[20:30] <gspr_> I'm using 2.6.33-rc3 from mainline, plus radeonhd and libdrm for the xorg-edgers PPA
[20:31] <gspr_> The R600_rlc.bin R700_rlc.bin firmware files are in place.
[20:32] <gspr_> Whenever I boot with radeon.modeset=1 (or add radeon modeset=1 to /etc/modules), I just get a solid black or white screen when X starts. Hitting control alt f1 refreshes a black screen, and I can press control alt delete to reboot, indicating that things are not hung
[21:05] <yoasif_> is there a specific channel i should go into with requests for packaging of new perl modules? or should i just submit bugs to debian
[21:54] <puchat3k> hi i'd like to help out and submit bugs, but i'm not advanced enough to deal with major "system breaking" bugs. i have expierience with past ubuntu alpha releases and up until now i hadn't had any major problems. at the moment is lucid fairly stable and good to start playing around with?
[22:02] <BUGabundo> hey gyus
[22:02] <RAOF> puchat3k: Fairly?  I'm not aware of any system-eating bugs at the moment, but the day is still young!
[22:02] <BUGabundo> gonna be a bit OT, so please bare with me.
[22:02] <BUGabundo> I got this
[22:02] <BUGabundo> gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! video/x-raw-rgb ! pngenc compression-level=9 ! filesink location=foo.png
[22:03] <BUGabundo> but I need the equivalent to save as JPG
[22:03] <BUGabundo> help wanted :D thanks in advance
[22:03] <RAOF> BUGabundo: You know, there's #gstreamer on this very network :).  Anyway... you want to grab just a single image from your v4l2src?
[22:03] <BUGabundo> yep
[22:04] <BUGabundo> pics hourly
[22:04] <RAOF> jpegenc doesn't work?
[22:04]  * BUGabundo heads to #gstreamer
[22:04] <BUGabundo> RAOF: WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "jpgenc"
[22:04] <BUGabundo> le me swap jpg for jpeg
[22:04] <BUGabundo> WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no property "compression-level" in element "jpegenc0"
[22:04] <RAOF> jpeg:  jpegenc: JPEG image encoder
[22:05] <RAOF> BUGabundo: gst-inspect jpegenc
[22:05] <RAOF> You're probably after “quality"
[22:06] <BUGabundo> RAOF: jpegenc quality=9 ?
[22:06] <puchat3k> RAOF, hey, thanks i'm downloading an image know, i'll try it out in virtualbox for a couple of days and then maybe try to install it on one of my boxes, thanks for the info :-)
[22:06] <BUGabundo> or 85 % ?
[22:07] <RAOF> BUGabundo: Given gst-inspect says quality goes from 0-100, with a default of 85, I'd suggest that quality 9 is probably pretty crap.
[22:07] <BUGabundo> ahah
[22:07] <BUGabundo> ill try 85
[22:07] <RAOF> You don't actually need to set that unless you want to be explicit; the default is 85.
[22:08] <BUGabundo> $ gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! video/x-raw-rgb ! jpegenc quality=85 ! filesink location=hour.jpg
[22:08] <BUGabundo> WARNING: erroneous pipeline: could not link videoscale0 to jpegenc0
[22:10] <RAOF> We're both looking at http://pastebin.ca/1740727 , right?
[22:10] <BUGabundo> that doesn't do it RAOF
[22:10] <BUGabundo> nor the tip I got at #gtreamer
[22:10] <BUGabundo> gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! jpegenc ! filesink location=foo.jpg
[22:11] <BUGabundo> it just gets stuck
[22:11] <RAOF> Notice the SINK specification there - in the “capabilities" line it says “video/raw-x-yuv", but you're trying to feed it x-raw-rgb.
[22:27] <douglasawh-work> am I missing something with not being able to do full disk encryption off the life CD...it looks like the download from LP is 501.7 KB
[22:27] <douglasawh-work> https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs
[22:28] <BUGabundo> hey douglasawh
[22:28] <douglasawh-work> BUGabundo: sup
[22:28] <BUGabundo> having fun
[22:28] <BUGabundo> hacking away my webcam
[22:28] <BUGabundo> to do daily photos of me :D
[22:28] <douglasawh-work> life == live  ^^
[22:28] <douglasawh-work> good stuff
[22:29] <douglasawh-work> I was hoping this would be changed in Lucid, but it's not in the alpha 1 installer :(
[22:30] <BUGabundo> having a fight with crontab
[22:39] <douglasawh-work> is their a ubiquity IRC channel?
[23:36] <douglasawh-work> does it matter that grub is .97 and grub-common is 1.97?
[23:36] <douglasawh-work> and what's the deal with the .97 naming convention?
[23:40]  * Crashbit pira pal sobre
[23:49] <RAOF> douglasawh-work: That's where grub upstream wants to say “This is (still) beta".