[07:59] <illumin8> if i change my swap settings to use another partition (that is formated as swap) in /etc/fstab will i encounter problems due to the uuid?
[07:59] <Cotowar> hey, got it. oh, and to homeskill, thank you very much for the help
[08:00] <IntuitiveNipple> pan_: See this: http://www.rhyshaden.com/ipadd.htm
[08:00] <pan_> k
[08:00] <Cotowar> will mmv work recursively on sub directories?
[08:00] <pan_> thx for the help
[08:00] <IntuitiveNipple> D is multicasting
[08:00] <Chousuke> Cotowar: mv? yes.
[08:00] <LaUd> hello everyone; is there an app to equalize my audio or make effects. rock pop etc. you know internally like stuff playing off the interner.. garagebands bebo myspace etc
[08:01] <Cotowar> chousuke, its renaming my files, not moving them
[08:01] <Chousuke> Cotowar: same thing :P
[08:01] <Cotowar> mmk
[08:01] <Chousuke> azlon: are you calling it right?
[08:01] <Cotowar> thanks
[08:01] <Cotowar> lets give it a go
[08:01] <IntuitiveNipple> illumin8: no, not if you make sure fstab uses the new partition's uuid (you can get it using blkid)
[08:01] <Chousuke> mv olddir newname
[08:01] <nsadmin> LaUd look into linux audio developers
[08:01] <illumin8> IntuitiveNipple, thanks just saved me hours of headaches :D
[08:01] <Limitt> wow this is bs
[08:01] <Chousuke> mv olddir /some/other/place/newname
[08:01] <homeskill> Cotowar for that i think you need to use find with it
[08:02] <nsadmin> and perhaps you should try to get jack going
[08:02] <Limitt> i got the mldonkey core to start
[08:02] <Limitt> but I cant get the gui to connect to it
[08:02] <Limitt> it keeps connecting and disconnecting
[08:02] <Cotowar> so throw a find out front and it should be good?
[08:02] <Chousuke> Cotowar: no.
[08:02] <Chousuke> I don't see why you'd need find :/
[08:02] <Chousuke> mv will move the dir and its contents.
[08:03] <illumin8> IntuitiveNipple, if its on sda1 what would be the blkid command to retrieve the uuid?
[08:03] <Cotowar> chousuke, i ran mmv '*\.wma*' "#1#2' on my top level directory, and nothing happened
[08:03] <LaUd> nsadmin: thanks ill check jack out..
[08:03] <Limitt> screw jack
[08:03] <Chousuke> Cotowar: mmv? :/
[08:03] <homeskill> Cotowar doesnt look like you can use find with mmv
[08:03] <IntuitiveNipple> illumin8: If you're created the new swap (with mkswap /dev/sda1) you'd just do blkid /dev/sda1
[08:03] <Cotowar> hhmmm
[08:03] <homeskill> you might wanna do it manually for each dir
[08:04] <Chousuke> Cotowar: ah, seems like that is something else.  I did it a couple weeks ago, but then transcoded my junk
[08:04] <homeskill> cotowar or right a script that gathers all the dirnames then cd's to each dir and mmv's
[08:05] <Cotowar> and now i have to do it again
[08:05] <Limitt> i am happy right now
[08:05] <illumin8> IntuitiveNipple, Ah it looks like using the mkswap command showed me the uuid by defualt, I hadnt used it because i had prior formated the sda1 to linux swap. Thank you again for your help.
[08:05] <Limitt> im a gay ol lad
[08:05] <Flannel> Limitt: Please stay on topic.
[08:05] <nsadmin> oic, so gay is good...
[08:05] <Cotowar> homeskill, you are on the right track with the find command. i can't remember what i was though that i used to rename in the first place
[08:05] <gfather> hello guys
[08:05] <ozzloy> how do i make a script that runs on resume/wake?
[08:05] <nsadmin> and therefore you complement jack
[08:05] <Limitt> mldonkey work with ubuntu?
[08:05] <Limitt> no
[08:05] <Flannel> nsadmin: Please stop.  This channel is for support, not random chatter.
[08:06] <rww> !edonkey | Limitt: Try one of these instead
[08:06] <gfather> what ever i want to install i get could not instal all dependencies , or uninstall , its driving me crazyyy
[08:06] <Cotowar> eh, whatever, i have to go to bed
[08:06] <RussM> Cotowar, you are looking to rename a bunch of files to the same name w/o .wma in the middle, across a bunch of directories?
[08:06] <Limitt> thanks
[08:06] <Cotowar> right
[08:06] <Limitt> for some reason my dang server does not work right
[08:06] <RussM> I'll pastebin something in a minute.
[08:06] <nsadmin> Flannel: fine, but you might want to backscroll and see if limitt has been trolling
[08:06] <Limitt> i iinstalled from synaptic
[08:06] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: Add it to /etc/pm/sleep.d/
[08:06] <Cotowar> or rather, im trying to get their old names back before the .wma was stuck in the middle
[08:07] <Limitt> im a troll im gonna get you .. bwaaa
[08:07] <Flannel> nsadmin: Regardless of what he is, its not an invitation for you to be offtopic.
[08:07] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: It sounds like you may need to 'force' apt to fix things up a bit. Try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:07] <homeskill> Cotowar it's more complicated to do things recursively. random example: find . -name '*.foo' -print0 | while read -r -d $'\0' f; do   mv -- "$f" "${f%.foo}.bar"  done
[08:07] <homeskill> cotowar dont run that command though, it's not what you want without tweaking
[08:07] <Cotowar> i know
[08:08] <Cotowar> im trying to figure out what all the parts are
[08:08] <Limitt> ehh im such a novice with this stuf
[08:08] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple ok ill try it now
[08:08] <nsadmin> you might pay attention to the greater offender.
[08:08] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: so if i put a script in there and make it executable, it will be executed when i resume from suspend and hibernate?
[08:08] <Cotowar> the -name is what its looking for IE the name of the file
[08:08] <Y-Town> anyone else having firefox crash issues with the latest updates?
[08:08] <Cotowar> the *.foo is everything ending in .foo right?
[08:08] <homeskill> Cotowar right and . means the current dir and all its subdirs
[08:08] <Cotowar> okay
[08:08] <sheldonh> aspell recognises words like participants (participant with the -s affix), but openoffice, x-chat, firefox and evolution do not. i get "Failure loading aff file /usr/share/myspell/dicts/en_ZA.aff" in .xsession-errors
[08:08] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple i get errors
[08:08] <Cotowar> what is the -print0?
[08:09] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: You may find some scripts already there to use as examples. They expect specific arguments so they can detect whether it is suspend or resume, and do the appropriate disable/enable actions as required
[08:09] <kibibyte> hi
[08:09] <kibibyte> i have problem
[08:09] <homeskill> -print0 means it prints the filenames in a way that helps with filenames with spaces and nullbytes
[08:09] <Limitt> i swry .. seriously though im about to pass out here its so late trying to figure this out.. should i just be able to install the server and kmldonkey and it should work?
[08:09] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: i did find a script in there!  00CPU looks helpful.  thank you!
[08:09] <Limitt> it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting over and over
[08:09] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: Can you copy the output you're seeing to a pastebin?
[08:09] <Cotowar> and what are the options there with read?
[08:09] <Flannel> !repeat | Limitt
[08:09] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple yes
[08:09] <mythmystic> !patience
[08:09] <Y-Town> anyone else having firefox crash issues with the latest updates?  seems like it has to do with adobe flash videos.... anyone else?
[08:09] <Cotowar> is it -r for rename, and -d for something...
[08:09] <quibbler> !ask | kibibyte
[08:10] <kibibyte> i can ping local address <IP_ADDRESS> but when i run
[08:10] <Limitt> !trout
[08:10] <kibibyte> traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using <IP_ADDRESS> @ nxge0:2
[08:10] <kibibyte> traceroute to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[08:10] <kibibyte>  1  * * *
[08:10] <FloodBot2> kibibyte: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <Limitt> dont be dumb mr bot you do in fact know what a trout is
[08:10] <kibibyte> and it goes on n on
[08:10] <kibibyte> :/
[08:10] <homeskill> Cotowar http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/020  i gotta sleep. good luck
[08:10] <mythmystic> just join.. wats d topic here 2day?
[08:11] <Cotowar> thanks
[08:11] <kibibyte> help
[08:11] <kibibyte> why tracert take so long?
[08:11] <rww> !topic | mythmystic
[08:11] <Flannel> mythmystic: Ubuntu support
[08:14] <sheldonh> can i make gnome use aspell instead of whatever it's using now? the aspell utility gets "participants" right
[08:15] <adred> hi..how to do setuid? I have to OSes installed. From Ubuntu, I changed the permissions of my other OS''s boot partition. When I boot to that OS, I don't have root privileges anymore. And when I sudo xxxxx update, I got prompted with 'setuid' thing. How do I solve this?
[08:16] <kurt> hi, i want to use the jaunty-kernel with my intrepid (my wireless lan regularly crashes my system). what do i have to do?
[08:16] <Gnea> kurt: you'd have to use jaunty to use the jaunty kernel
[08:17] <kurt> isn't there a backport?
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: You can download the kernel packages separately and install them using dpkg -i
[08:17] <Gnea> if there is, it'd be here...
[08:17] <Gnea> !backport
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: You'd also need to add entries to the GRUB menu of course
[08:17] <blufade> need help with setting up tor + privoxy
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Kernel's aren't back-ported
[08:18] <Gnea> blufade: tried #tor?
[08:18] <blufade> u mean tor channel ?
[08:18] <Gnea> yes
[08:19] <blufade> ok, thank you
[08:19] <kurt> is there another way to stop my intrepid from crashing when wireless is activated?
[08:19] <Gnea> adred: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/explain-what-is-setuid-and-setgid/
[08:20] <kurt> i have a thinkpad t60 with an intel wireless card
[08:20] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: usually the first thing to do is gather logs and other information about the problem and creating a bug-report on launchpad.net
[08:20] <Gnea> !laptop
[08:21] <mhiku> Failed to save enabled features : The plugin Analytics Tracking cannot be used : Apache's mod_perl version 2 must be installed
[08:22] <mhiku> how can i install Apache's mod_perl version 2
[08:22] <kurt> it's a kernel panic, that's all i know right now
[08:22] <mhiku> how can this be fixed?
[08:23] <Gnea> mhiku: i would start by looking for the correct package:  apt-cache search apache mod perl
[08:23] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[08:24] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple http://pastebin.com/md55bda8
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> mhiku: maybe this will help: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libapache2-mod-perl2
[08:24] <kurt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/272015 known bug, but no fix :(
[08:25] <kurt> i heared it's fixed in jaunty
[08:25] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: Nice bug-catch!! :)
[08:26] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple :)
[08:26] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple i want to destroy that bug
[08:26] <gfather> :S
[08:26] <G-Blunted> GDM (thats the login right?) is giving me errors when i login to x....is there a log somewhere this error would be in?
[08:27] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do it. I think we should try purging that package
[08:27] <Gnea> G-Blunted: somewhere in /var/log/gdm/
[08:27] <jimcooncat> G-Blunted: you might want to run dmesg as well
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: Try this please: sudo dpkg --purge gij-4.2
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: If that works, retry the sudo apt-get -f install
[08:29] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple errors
[08:29] <gfather> :)
[08:29] <gfather> :(
[08:29] <lianimator> how can grep be used to search in multiple files?
[08:30] <mhiku> ive installed apt-get install libapache2-mod-perl2 but still no mod perl version 2
[08:31] <HDready> good morning folks :) I want to sort my mp3s so that i have the following path: artist/artist-album-year/trackno-artist-title; which program is good for this? and also i want to edit the mp3 tags so that they call trackno-artist-title like the one in the path view; is there a program which can lookup my mp3s in some common databases?
[08:31] <jimcooncat> lianimator: probably "cat file1 file2 file3 | grep what"
[08:32] <IntuitiveNipple> lianimator: grep -rn 'pattern' *
[08:32] <ShackTiDe> Is there a way that I can restore the default permissions in /etc and the subfolders :(
[08:32] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how can i create my account on a ftp server. When i entred ftp address in mozilla, it quits..????????????
[08:32] <IntuitiveNipple> lianimator: "-r" recurses into sub-dirs too - I use that for searching source-code trees quickly
[08:33] <ShackTiDe> Can somebody tell me if there is a script that can restore the default file permissions? I am really sc....ed
[08:33] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: try using "anonymous" as the username, and an email address as the password
[08:35] <lianimator> IntuitiveNipple: isn't n for line number? I don't see the line number
[08:35] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: it worked!
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> lianimator: Yes, it'll usually report filename:lineno:
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: Well done :)
[08:36] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: do you know how to put the screen to full brightness?
[08:36] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: yeah, scrolling works on the mouse when i resume from hibernate and suspend now!
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: I think you can use the dpms utilities but not sure quite how without researching it
[08:36] <ozzloy> k
[08:36] <ozzloy> thank
[08:36] <ozzloy> s
[08:37] <lianimator> IntuitiveNipple: oh, it's there, just didn't see
[08:37] <lianimator> jimcooncat: do I need to do cat first? seems redundant
[08:37] <HDready> good morning folks :) I want to sort my mp3s so that i have the following path: artist/artist-album-year/trackno-artist-title; which program is good for this? and also i want to edit the mp3 tags so that they call trackno-artist-title like the one in the path view; is there a program which can lookup my mp3s in some common databases? maybe EasyTag oder exfalso?
[08:37] <jeeves> how do I recover my evoulition e-mail?
[08:38] <jeeves> how do I recover my evoulition e-mail?
[08:39] <jimcooncat> lianimator: maybe. my command line skills just get me through the day.
[08:40] <jeeves> anyone on this e-mail issue?
[08:42] <jeeves> anyone?
[08:42] <jimcooncat> hey jeeves, you need to explain the problem. The mail itself, or the evolution program? Where is the mail stored?
[08:43] <jeeves> jimcooncat, I had "backed up" my e-mail with the e-mail program, then I reinstalled the OS, and when I tried to recover, it's telling me that it's not a valid backup
[08:44] <rww> HDready: I used picard for that a while ago, I think.
[08:44] <rww> !info picard | HDready
[08:45] <jimcooncat> jeeves: so it's in a .tar.gz file somewhere?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[08:46] <telemachus> hi, I've made changes to crontab by using sudo crontab -e. But the cron doesn't seem to run. How can I see the log of what cron does?
[08:46] <bushwakko> hey, I have a big problem with ubuntu-server, I try to install gnome, I get an error because it cannot find gnome-keyring-manager, this package just isn't there, I saw a lot of old an unnaswered posts about this while googling
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: setup loggin for cron and read it periodically
[08:46] <bushwakko> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820999
[08:46] <Flannel> bushwakko: install ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-desktop
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> bushwakko: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <bushwakko> ah, ok
[08:47] <bushwakko> this seems to work
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> bushwakko: running an x server on a server system isnt a great idea
[08:47] <bushwakko> ActionParsnip: Need it for remote X, which is a requirement
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> bushwakko: install x11 libs then, yo udont need the full whack
[08:47] <telemachus> action: right, and how do I setup logging for cron? put a pipe '>' after the cron line?
[08:48] <d-b> anyone got a ubuntu 8.04.2 server -> are any packages / kernel packages being held / not upgraded ?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: its not something ive delved into. I'd check the config page/man page for how to set up logging
[08:48] <d-b> and how should i be checking why it was held back ?
[08:48] <jeeves> jimcooncat, yes, I have it on my memory stick
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: tab complete my name too ;)
[08:49] <HDready> good morning folks :) I want to sort my mp3s so that i have the following path: artist/artist-album-year/trackno-artist-title; which program is good for this? and also i want to edit the mp3 tags so that they call trackno-artist-title like the one in the path view; is there a program which can lookup my mp3s in some common databases? maybe EasyTag oder exfalso?
[08:49] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: not able to login man
[08:49] <HDready> rww: thanks
[08:49] <d-b> HDready: amarok.
[08:49] <jimcooncat> jeeves: try to copy the .tar.gz file to your /home then restore through evolution
[08:49] <telemachus> ActionParsnip, sorry about that. When I first learned to IRC it was with mirc about 15 years ago.
[08:50] <jeeves> jimcooncat, does it have to be in the /home/<%user%> dir?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> HDready: mp3rename may be able to move files to folders too, not sure
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: tab complete worksin mirc too
[08:51] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: I misunderstood. you want to create an account on the ftp server -- I thought you wanted to ftp into ftp.mozilla.org; sorry
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> HDready: theres id3tool which can be used to edit tags at command line
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> HDready: or easytag if you want a gui tool
[08:51] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: yes
[08:52] <jimcooncat> jeeves: yes, that's what I meant. guess I need more coffee
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> HDready: if you configure your cd ripper better, it will automatically rip in the desired format
[08:52] <telemachus> ActionParsnip, did it? I never knew. When I first used IRC to chat with people about videogames prior to the launch of the N64, the convention was just to abrieviate the name as a courtesy. xchat is the first time I've seen colour highlighting on directed speech.
[08:52] <jeeves> jimcooncat, lol, why would they do that?  this is like 4 beers into the night trying to figure this one out
[08:52] <Gnea> telemachus: it's been many years since the N64 debuted and fell into obscurity :)
[08:53] <HDready> ActionParsnip: but i ahve already mp3s from my old windows os ;) and they are not sorted very well so i want to sort etc.. no chance to rip them tough
[08:53] <jimcooncat> jeeves: I'm thinking it's a permission thing, it's just a guess though
[08:53] <adrenalyn> hello
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: yeah its very common, irc was widespread in unix which also uses tab completion for filenames linke linux so its a natural approach (thats how I see it)
[08:53] <jeeves> jimcooncat, ok, once I move it, I'll check
[08:53] <telemachus> Gnea, true, and it's been many years since I've used IRC
[08:53] <adrenalyn> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> HDready: then create some folders and move them around a bit
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> !ask | adrenalyn
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> !caps | adrenalyn
[08:54] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: you'll have to create your account through the ftp program's config files
[08:54] <adrenalyn> Ok, lol
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: N64 is awesome :D
[08:54] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: can u tell me the commands?
[08:55] <Gnea> telemachus: in that case, you may want to puruse our guidelines, they will help you better associate with people and shorten your learning curve :)
[08:55] <adrenalyn> Ive tried to download the media package thru Termnal, and it installs but then I come to a Java agreement window. I scroll to the bottom it only says "<ok>" what do i do?
[08:55] <HDready> ActionParsnip: but this is much work... i want an easier way^^
[08:55] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: I can try to look it up for you. What are you using to serve your ftp? apache2?
[08:55] <Gnea> !guidelines
[08:55] <telemachus> Gnea, that's alright. ActionParsnip just told me about the tab completion on nicks so I'm pretty good now.
[08:56] <Gnea> telemachus: cool
[08:56] <milligan_> I have a compact card reader in my comp.. Bus 007 Device 003: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Hi-Speed 21-in-1 Flash Card Reader/Writer (Internal/External). However, when I plug a CF into it, it doesn't seem to be found. Anyone experienced that, and know how to fix it? Running 8.10
[08:56] <adrenalyn> can anyone answer my question?
[08:56] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: i want to create an account at ftp.cablenet.com.pe
[08:56] <milligan_> adrenalyn, press enter?
[08:56] <Gnea> !anyone | adrenalyn
[08:56] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: and i m using CLI in ubuntu
[08:56] <adrenalyn> no that didnt work
[08:57] <jeeves> jimcooncat, thanks again mate, I owe ya one!
[08:57] <Gnea> adrenalyn: have no idea what you're talking about.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> !info torrentflux
[08:58] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: i have installed ncftp client now
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> uber
[08:58] <adrenalyn> I download the media package sudo apt-get restricted-ubuntu-extras and and it installed fine, then i got to a Java Agreement window within the Terminal
[08:58] <milligan_> adrenalyn, did you press tab so that the <OK> is highlighted ?
[08:58] <adrenalyn> Thanks Milligan
[08:59] <adrenalyn> im a noob didnt kno how to do that ..embarrased
[08:59] <milligan_> adrenalyn, everyone needs to start somewhere :)
[08:59] <SunnyDP> adrenalyn: even the most adept linux users are noobs
[08:59] <adrenalyn> thanks
[08:59] <SunnyDP> noobs at other subjects , like biology, chemistry, etc...
[08:59] <SunnyDP> cant be l33t at everything :F
[09:00] <adrenalyn> thanks =P
[09:00] <gb__> hi guys
[09:00] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: I can see the login, but I can't log in myself. I was hoping there would be a README file in there. No web access I can find, either. You'd probably have to contact their admin.
[09:00] <gb__> is ubuntu 7.10 still supported
[09:00] <quibbler> gb__: no
[09:00] <gb__> i had issues with 6.10
[09:00] <SunnyDP> doubt it
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: to truely pwn, you must pwn at all things
[09:00] <gb__> oh dang ;(
[09:00] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: ok dude thnx
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> !gutsy
[09:00] <SunnyDP> Action: exactly
[09:01] <Flannel> gb__: Yes.  18 months.  But only for a few more (until April)
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: www.puepwnage.com
[09:01] <gb__> ok so better option is getting 8
[09:01] <gb__> mine 8 cd got cracked, will have to redownload it
[09:01] <gb__> oh well
[09:01] <Flannel> gb__: 8.04 is a good choice, yes.
[09:02] <gb__> thanks Flannel  big time
[09:02] <packetloss> i attached an ATA drive in my ubuntu box, but ubuntu doesn't recognise it =
[09:02] <packetloss> ?
[09:02] <SunnyDP> weird
[09:03] <SunnyDP> rescan devices
[09:03] <packetloss> how do you do that
[09:03] <adrenalyn> so how can you "paint fire" effect in compiz?
[09:03] <gb__> take care i'm off adios
[09:03] <adrenalyn> later
[09:04] <ziroday> !ccsm | adrenalyn
[09:04] <SuperMike> What would be the eqivlent to "acpi-workarounds" in Wubi for Ubuntu's oringal install ?
[09:04] <SunnyDP> start by typing: dmesg
[09:04] <SuperMike> acpi=off ?
[09:04] <ziroday> packetloss: does it appear in sudo fdisk -l ?
[09:05] <adrenalyn> ziroday, ive installed that im at the configurations part in System>Preferences>Compiz Config
[09:05] <saywatmang`> when I run compiz I get 'Root visual is not a GL visual', but xdpyinfo shows GLX in the extensions
[09:05] <adrenalyn> there an effects option "Paint fire on you desktop", i checked it, now how to i actually do it?
[09:05] <Favorit> saywatmang`: do you have DRI enabled?
[09:06] <remoteCTRL> can anyone tell me the differences between mediabuntu and studiobuntu?
[09:06] <saywatmang`> hrm, dunno what that is
[09:06] <ziroday> adrenalyn: looks at the (key) bindings
[09:06] <quibbler> adrenalyn: shift-alt mouse 1
[09:06] <ari_stress> hi, is 57 degree celsius normal on the CPU?
[09:06] <Favorit> saywatmang`: if you do grep DRI /var/log/Xorg.0.log, do you see something like: (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0
[09:06] <SiDi> ari_stress, no
[09:07] <Favorit> ari_stress: for which CPU
[09:07] <ari_stress> Favorit: my notebook
[09:07] <SiDi> ari_stress, unless it's a pentium 4.. xD
[09:07] <adrenalyn> I figured it out, now i wonder how to make it go away P
[09:07] <adrenalyn> =P
[09:07] <saywatmang`> Favorit, (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[09:07] <Favorit> saywatmang`: that's tne only entry?
[09:07] <saywatmang`> yea
[09:07] <packetloss> SunnyDP it does not appear in fdisk -l
[09:07] <Favorit> saywatmang`: then there's something wrong with the acceleration initialization
[09:08] <saywatmang`> this used to work on my laptop in older versions btw
[09:08] <quibbler> adrenalyn: shift-Suoer-c
[09:08] <saywatmang`> i think it stopped when i upgraded to intrepid
[09:08] <quibbler> *Super
[09:08] <adrenalyn> what is super?
[09:08] <Favorit> saywatmang`: do you have Option          "DRI"   "true" in your "Device" section in xorg.conf?
[09:08] <quibbler> adrenalyn: windows key
[09:08] <SiDi> ari_stress, how do you know your cpu's heat ? (and btw if your pc is a notebook but doesnt seem "hot" then the sensor is probably crappy)
[09:08] <saywatmang`> Favorit, no DRI in my xorg.conf
[09:08] <saywatmang`> should I add it ?
[09:08] <adrenalyn> quibbler: Thank You
[09:09] <Favorit> saywatmang`: you could start with trying to add that, yes
[09:09] <saywatmang`> k thx
[09:09] <saywatmang`> brb
[09:09] <ari_stress> SiDi: i use sensors-applet, got it from ubuntu forum
[09:09] <quibbler> adrenalyn: ;-)
[09:09] <SiDi> ari_stress, ok thanks
[09:09] <Favorit> ari_stress: sensors have to be configured most of the time to show real temps
[09:09] <Favorit> ari_stress: default detection can always be wrong and show offsets that aren't true
[09:09] <rww> !lm-sensors | SiDi
[09:09] <SiDi> rww, thanks
[09:10] <Favorit> although, depending on what CPU your notebook has, 57 degrees can be normal
[09:10] <ari_stress> Favorit: oh how do i know the correct offset? currently it's zero
[09:10] <Favorit> ari_stress: look at the type of your motherboard, read that link that ubottu just pasted for SiDi.
[09:10] <adrenalyn> how do u guys know all these commands?
[09:10] <Favorit> ari_stress: check the lmsensors website to see which module suits your motherboard, there will be the config values.
[09:11] <Favorit> adrenalyn: which commands? :)
[09:11] <adrenalyn> !caps
[09:11] <ari_stress> adrenalyn: Favorit is the bot
[09:11] <saywatmang> Favorit, (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "DRI" is not used
[09:11] <rww> !list | adrenalyn
[09:11] <adrenalyn> !thanks
[09:12] <Favorit> saywatmang: hmm, interesting
[09:12] <sk8ball> sup motherfuckers
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | sk8ball
[09:12] <Favorit> saywatmang: are you using the latest nvidia drivers?
[09:13] <sk8ball> ohmy!
[09:13] <sk8ball> bears!
[09:13] <packetloss> SunnyDP
[09:13] <packetloss> the drive does not apppear in fdisk -l
[09:13] <Favorit> ari_stress: I'm the bot?
[09:13] <sk8ball> get a clue, there is no "family"elementtothischannel
[09:13] <saywatmang> Favorit, yea using the latest hardware drivers
[09:13] <sk8ball> or to irc in general
[09:13] <Viper111> hello there i have a squid proxy with dansgaurdian and i made an acl thats permits ports 25 110 443 but mail cannt be retreived from thundbird but should i do ??
[09:13] <sk8ball> damn
[09:14] <ari_stress> Favorit: thanks for the link, i think i miss the sudo sensors-detect step
[09:14] <Favorit> saywatmang: hmmz, nvidia sucked lately with their hw support undel linux.. so basically the problem is that compiz complains that there's no GL available?
[09:15] <saywatmang> yea
[09:15] <Favorit> saywatmang: and do you have "glx" module loaded in xorg.conf?
[09:15] <arooni> i back up /home/ nightly to a different drive;  should i also be backing up /etc/
[09:15] <saywatmang> yea I have Load "glx"
[09:15] <Favorit> saywatmang: actually, you can just mail me your xorg.conf, or just paste it into privmsg, i'll have a look :) easier than asking for each and every line
[09:16] <Favorit> saywatmang: or use some pastebin :)
[09:16] <Viper111> hello there i have a squid proxy with dansgaurdian and i made an acl thats permits ports 25 110 443 but mail cannt be retreived from thundbird but should i do ??
[09:16] <Baatti> Greetings, I'm strongly considering putting Windows Vista back on my computer :( but only in a very small partition. The reason being that I can't for the life of me get FFXI to run under Ubuntu. My question is, what's the best way for me to set up my partitions to have Ubuntu be my main OS?
[09:17] <rww> !pastebin | Favorit: or they could use this...
[09:18] <lvlefisto> Viper111: i had a problem similar to yours. Then i realized squid is not meant to be used for anything else than HTTP
[09:18] <milligan_> What's the keycombo to change desktop ?
[09:18] <Favorit> rww: nods, although I've met people who are quite sensitive about pasting their configs for some reasin
[09:18] <remoteCTRL> anyone ever tried out medibuntu or studiobuntu?
[09:18] <Baatti> CTRL + ALT + arrow
[09:18] <milligan_> cheers.
[09:18] <Viper111> lvlefisto so wt should i do then ?? to enable access 110 25
[09:18] <jedfox> I have problem with sound. My Sound Blaster Live doesn't play.
[09:19] <lvlefisto> Viper111: configure Thunderbird to not use the proxy
[09:19] <bz0b> anyone here use iwlagn driver? iwl5100 card in specific, im trying to inject packets but not working
[09:20] <Baatti> ok, let me rephrase my question....
[09:20] <Favorit> saywatmang: any effect?
[09:20] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: yeah i do, but what do you mean by inject packets?
[09:20] <arooni> i back up /home/ nightly to a different drive;  should i also be backing up /etc/ ?
[09:20] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, like aircrack-ng suite to put it into monitor mode and inject packets
[09:21] <remoteCTRL> arooni surely not a bad thing to do but nightly won't be necessary...
[09:21] <bz0b> it goes into monitor mode no prob, but i can't get an auth. packet or inject packets
[09:21] <Baatti> I have to restore out of box if I put Vista back on... so that'll format the harddrive and take up the whole thing...I want to run Ubuntu as my main OS, so, is it safe for me to install ubuntu from boot up, and choose to partition the hard drive to allow 85% or so to Ubuntu? That is to say, after Windows has been installed on the whole thing
[09:21] <jedfox> I don't have sound in Ubuntu. Card: Sound Blaster 5.1 Live. I tried to use solves from forums, but it doesn't work.
[09:21] <jimcooncat> arooni: yes, it's a good idea for the files that you customize
[09:21] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: sorry dude but i have no clue what you're talking about:D
[09:21] <arooni> remoteCTRL, how often?
[09:21] <milligan_> I have a flash drive reader. When I plug a CF into it, it isn't detected. Any ideas why ?
[09:21] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, oh np, its for cracking wep
[09:21] <arooni> how can i find out how big /etc/ is ?
[09:22] <saywatmang> arooni, du -ks /etc
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: is it shown in: sudo fdisk -l
[09:22] <milligan_> arooni, du -hs /etc
[09:22] <jimcooncat> arooni: du or baobab
[09:22] <jedfox> I don't have sound in Ubuntu. Card: Sound Blaster 5.1 Live. I tried to use solves from forums, but it doesn't work.
[09:22] <remoteCTRL> arooni well basically as often as you change something on some systems configurations, that won't be that often, right?  (gnome preferences and so on are in the /h9ome directory...)
[09:22] <milligan_> ActionParsnip, no .. it isn't detected, so fdisk won't show it.
[09:23] <arooni> does 22M seem right for /etc/
[09:23] <arooni> i thought it was MUCH BIGGER
[09:23] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: yeah i know that's why i "have no clue" we are a support channel, not a hacker channel;)
[09:23] <milligan_> arooni, mine is 17MB
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: ok, then unplug it, wait a little, plug it back in, wait a liitle, then run: dmesg | tail
[09:23] <arooni> where does ubuntu install software to?
[09:23] <arooni> /var/
[09:23] <arooni> ?
[09:24] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, lol i know but i need support to patch my driver. ;-)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> arooni: all over the place, apps use lots of shared libs so there is no Program Files folder like in windows
[09:24] <crdlb> arooni: packages install all over the place, but mostly /usr
[09:24] <remoteCTRL> arooni depends on what it is, also /usr/local /bin /usr/bin and so further..
[09:24] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, no biggie i just do it for the proof of concept, i am a net. admin for a pretty large wan, and i just like learning this stuff for on the side
[09:24] <jedfox> I don't have sound in Ubuntu. Card: Sound Blaster 5.1 Live. I tried to use solves from forums, but it doesn't work.
[09:24] <Favorit> btw, anyone knows of some good network-based backup that would just simply allow to back up files automagically from one machien to another with some kind of schedules and support of incremental backups?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> arooni: you can see where a single deb will install by extracting it but the app will have dependancies which will be in other places
[09:25] <milligan_> ActionParsnip, [612949.404021] usb 7-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 [612949.812013] usb 7-1: device not accepting address 6, error -71 <- Could that be the CF ?
[09:25] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: surely not a stoopid thing to do, yet still i can't help you on that cos i never had to "patch" that driver...;)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> arooni: you could download its dependancies to see where they go too but its a fairly pointless exercise
[09:25] <SunnyDP> :'(
[09:25] <banttu> I want to get the size of a partition using fdisk -s and pipe it to something so I can get it in human readable format
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: if thats theoutput of dmesg | tail then yes, you now have some ammo
[09:26] <banttu> Anybody with ideas?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> !sound | jedfox
[09:26] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, np was just curious if anyone here had tried it since ubuntu is such a large part of the linux community and would think someone here would have my same wifi card and maybe tried to get into there own wireless network... :-)
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> banttu: fdisk -s > ~/output.txt    maybe
[09:26] <Favorit> banttu: define human readable
[09:27] <Favorit> banttu: fdisk -s gives pretty much human readable format, numbers :)
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: well i do get into my network but without haxx0ring it:D
[09:27] <banttu> Megabytes, Gigs Kilobyte
[09:27] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, haha noob, jk
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: hahahaha aye
[09:28] <banttu> Favorit lol, I'd read something about using bc but I can't seem to get it working, its a tricky affair piping to bc
[09:28] <Favorit> banttu: df -h / | tail -1 | awk '{print $2}' <- would this do? :)
[09:29] <Favorit> banttu: replace / with other partition name for other partitions :)
[09:29] <banttu> Favorit, I haven't mounted it,
[09:29] <Favorit> banttu: ah, i see
[09:30] <banttu> I could mount it but that would mean using fdisk would be obfuscated
[09:30] <lianimator> how could you grep a pattern with a '-'?
[09:31] <Favorit> banttu: yeah
[09:31] <Dreamglider_> i wish to costumise/translate the gnome clock for ubuntu, how would i go about doing this ? i take it i need the source right ?
[09:32] <Dreamglider_> I have no knowledge of source editing, but i think it's time :) could anyone point me in the right direction ?
[09:32] <scizzo-> Dreamglider_: most of the time this is translated from the gnome project
[09:33] <scizzo-> Dreamglider_: I would suggest you go to the gnome website to check for the translation team or on ubuntu website for the same....
[09:33] <scizzo-> Dreamglider_: all information you need to get started with contribution should be available on those sites
[09:33] <banttu> Ok. Lemmi ask it different
[09:33] <Dreamglider_> allright thanks :)
[09:33] <crdlb> Dreamglider_: all you want to do is translate it?
[09:34] <banttu> Say you have a command that returns a number
[09:34] <Favorit> banttu: this would be another option: parted -s /dev/sda1 print | grep " 1" | awk '{print $3}'
[09:34] <Dreamglider_> crdlb: as a first step yes
[09:35] <Favorit> banttu or even parted -s /dev/sda1 print | grep "^Disk" | awk '{print $2}'
[09:35] <Favorit> banttu: $3 that is
[09:35] <crdlb> Dreamglider_: localisation can be done without touching the source code, but "customisation" outside of the settings offered cannot be
[09:36] <Ebdomos> I sudo'd nautilus, and deleted a file, however the item didnt appear in the trash folder, and when I click on the trash, it says it cannot display the contents. This file was big, at 8.3 gigs. How can I delete it permanently?
[09:36] <angelo1298181828> * StArGaTe|DvD|001 :No such nick/channel
[09:36] <ja2> Hi, any suggestions? The following packages have unmet dependencies:  apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2.2-common (= 2.2.8-1) but 2.2.8-1ubuntu0.3 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[09:36] <Favorit> banttu and to operate your units you can do it like this: parted -s /dev/sda1 unit MB print | grep "^Disk" | awk '{print $3}'
[09:37] <chu_> !acpi
[09:37] <Favorit> Ebdomos: probably the file in the trash is now owned by root
[09:37] <Ebdomos> Favorit: yah, but I cant get to the root trash
[09:38] <Ebdomos> Favorit: and I dont know where to look
[09:38] <chu_> is it possible to "teach" the bot?
[09:38] <megaJuice> has anyone else had problems installing ATI drivers?
[09:38] <BulBUlRed> anyone have any good ideas/experience with "document management" tools in Ubuntu? (moreover in opensource community i mean)
[09:38] <angelo1298181828>  irc.abbaddon.net
[09:38] <BulBUlRed> i am looking at Knowledgetree atm
[09:39] <BulBUlRed> very nice tool
[09:39] <broken> yes mega
[09:39] <broken> they're a pain
[09:39] <Favorit> Ebdomos: look in ~/.local/share/Trash
[09:39] <megaJuice> were you successful in your attempts?
[09:39] <broken> there's a petition somewhere to AMD
[09:39] <Ebdomos> ok, thanks
[09:39] <broken> after a while
[09:39] <megaJuice> broken: hmm.. I'll have to add my name to it.
[09:39] <broken> get catalyst and xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:40] <broken> those should help for now
[09:40] <broken> don't have to
[09:40] <angelo1298181828>  	/msg [EWG]-OG\DETOX XDCC SEND #6
[09:40] <megaJuice> broken: I've tried everything and nothing worked, so i gave up
[09:40] <broken> it's better that we act as a community and show them we're part of their user base
[09:40] <broken> hmm
[09:40] <broken> don't give up
[09:40] <megaJuice> and went back to the generic *rolls eyes* card my machine came with
[09:40] <broken> there's always a chance they'll release drivers
[09:41] <megaJuice> but now i'm having more problems
[09:41] <Ebdomos> Favorit: wow, I learned something incredibly valuable, thanks bro
[09:41] <broken> sorry to here that
[09:41] <broken> what are the card models
[09:41] <Favorit> Ebdomos: no probs :)
[09:41] <kaartz> i need to run this command at the startup 'xrandr -s 0' how to that? pls help me
[09:41] <blufad1> any other alternative to firefox on ubuntu ?
[09:41] <megaJuice> the ATI i'm trying to install is an ATI Radeon 9550
[09:41] <rww> !startup
[09:42] <crdlb> kaartz: why? the screen resolution panel can do the same thing
[09:42] <megaJuice> and i have no idea what the generic card is.
[09:42] <kaartz> no, i'm not able to see that resolution
[09:42] <kaartz> that is why i', using xrandr
[09:42] <lianimator> can ls list the files with their fullpath?
[09:42] <bachus> hi
[09:42] <bachus> I've a problem...
[09:43] <rsa_md5> i installed mod_mono, but if  I try to open .asp files, I see the code and the asp file is not parsed...what could be wrong?
[09:43] <ramvi> I've installed compiled and installed a wifi driver which works if I modprobe it. It isn't by default though - how do I fix that?
[09:43] <crdlb> kaartz: :/ gnome-display-properties gets its list from xrandr
[09:43] <baber> how can change default runlevels?
[09:43] <bachus> how to use bluetooth in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[09:43] <blufad1> is there any alternative to firefox browser ?
[09:43] <bachus> rfcomm connect rfcomm0 AA:00:00:00:30:5E
[09:43] <SunnyDP> blufad1: opera
[09:43] <bachus> Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Connection refused
[09:43] <crdlb> blufad1: epiphany? opera?
[09:43] <lianimator> blufad1: lynx
[09:43] <quibbler> blufad1: opera
[09:44] <lianimator> blufad1: jk. I vote opera
[09:44] <quibbler> !browser
[09:44] <blufad1> do they use firefox core or their own ?
[09:44] <RudeBoi> can i make a live usb of ubuntu 8.04?
[09:44] <SunnyDP> yes of course
[09:44] <SunnyDP> Rudeboi: Unetbootin
[09:44] <crdlb> blufad1: opera has its own, epiphany uses gecko from firefox
[09:44] <megaJuice> none of my 3D games will start now that I changed switched xorg.conf with xorg.conf.failsafe    Is there anything I can do?
[09:44] <RudeBoi> i have no idea what unetbootin is
[09:44] <megaJuice> switched not changed switched
[09:45] <lianimator> megaJuice: tell me you backed up..
[09:45] <blufad1> ok, with firefox i'm having trouble using yahoo mail......is the case same with opera ?
[09:45] <SunnyDP> rudeboi: go download it, install it and you will see
[09:45] <SunnyDP> easy
[09:45] <SunnyDP> PM me for assistance
[09:45] <megaJuice> lianimator: ha. yeah i wish i had remembered to do that.
[09:45] <mchelen> RudeBoi, just go to system -> admin -> create usb startup disk
[09:45] <RudeBoi> dl it from add/remove?
[09:45] <crdlb> blufad1: err, you can try it; firefox in general isn't broken with yahoo mail though ...
[09:46] <RudeBoi> i have 8.04 and it doesn't have that option
[09:46] <lianimator> megaJuice: is there anything else you did in xorg.conf? maybe edited with gedit or configured it?
[09:46] <mchelen> google unetbootin to find .deb on their webpage, it is a package for 9.04 jaunty
[09:46] <lianimator> megaJuice: there might be some back ups in there.
[09:46] <kaartz> thanks guys
[09:46] <mchelen> RudeBoi, ok then dl unetbootin or upgrade to 8.10
[09:46] <blufad1> i dont see opera listed in synaptic.....
[09:46] <RudeBoi> i'll check it out thanks
[09:47] <megaJuice> lianimator: I tried to configure it a couple times, but it never worked right. It would always leave me in low graphics mode when I would take out my ATI card I was trying to install, and switch to the generic one.
[09:48] <lennad> Hi, how to mount the Home directory in another computer to some directory in my computer? thanks
[09:48] <SunnyDP> RudeBoi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/i386/unetbootin/download
[09:48] <SunnyDP> enjoy :D
[09:48] <blufad1> coulld anybody here help me with tor ?
[09:49] <mchelen> blufad1, whats the problem?
[09:49] <RudeBoi> thanks sunnDP
[09:49] <lennad> as i want to work at home, i want to mount the home directory of the computer in my office to my home computer
[09:49] <blufad1> mchelen,i've installed tor + privoxy
[09:49] <Boohbah> lennad: an OpenVPN connection may be a better choice
[09:50] <lennad> Boohbah: yes, i have VPN
[09:50] <megaJuice> lianimator: ? any ideas?
[09:50] <blufad1> also switch proxy for firefox, but whenever i try <IP_ADDRESS> , i cannot browse......
[09:50] <lennad> Boohbah: but how to
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: can you ping web addresses by name and ip?
[09:51] <lennad> Boohbah: even i have VPN, i still need to map the home directory to my current computer, right?
[09:52] <RudeBoi> if i upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 will i still have my saved files? and desktop backgroud?
[09:52] <blufad1> evrything esle except for firefox works
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: yes, the upgrade only upgrades the applications so yur home folder will remain untouched
[09:53] <RudeBoi> k thanks
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: ok, do other browsers work ok with the proxy?
[09:53] <WindowSeven> hello!
[09:53] <SunnyDP> thanks to ActionParsnips for recommending Pidgin as a IRC cleint for ubuntu :D:D:D
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: just like if you upgrade windows it doesnt delete yuor files
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: its ok
[09:54] <blufad1> let me install opera and see
[09:54] <WindowSeven> SunnyDP try with X-Chat i mean
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: its good to try a range of clients to see which you prefer
[09:54] <RudeBoi> so i need iso image of 8.10 to upgrade?
[09:54] <SunnyDP> i tried Xchat
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: no, you can upgrade via the web
[09:54] <WindowSeven> confused?
[09:54] <SunnyDP> and for now i enjoy Pidgin better
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | RudeBoi
[09:55] <SunnyDP> I am a MIRC old schooler :D
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !irc | SunnyDP
[09:55] <WindowSeven> x-chat = debian geeks
[09:55] <WindowSeven> pidgin = a copy of debian geeks
[09:55] <WindowSeven> lol
[09:55] <RudeBoi> k
[09:55] <SunnyDP> WindowsSeven :D
[09:55] <WindowSeven> ye WindowSeven is like Ubuntu
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: how is it a copy, its based on Gaim?
[09:55] <WindowSeven> or vista i think lol
[09:56] <blufad1> ActionParsnip, but how do i check if privoxy & tor are running ?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: win7 is a lot like enlightenment window manager
[09:56] <SunnyDP> blufad1: go to check your ip!!!
[09:56] <WindowSeven> ActionParsnip and Ubuntu funtionality lol
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: ps -ef | grep tor; ps -ef | grep privoxy
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: shame its a 7Gb install >:o
[09:57] <WindowSeven> ActionParsnip Ubuntu still sucks >:O
[09:57] <Viper111> hello there i have a squid proxy with dansgaurdian and i made an acl thats permits ports 25 110 443 but mail cannt be retreived from thundbird but should i do ??
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: maybe to you, i think its fine. Gentoo is my main man though :D
[09:58] <blufad1> ActionParsnip,   http://pastebin.com/me0be567
[09:58] <Sucksbuntu> Gentoo is fine
[09:58] <Sucksbuntu> i like it
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: looks like its running to me
[09:59] <gutterpunk> Hi. Can anyone tell me how to change the SSH version info from "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2" to just "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1" ?
[09:59] <blufad1> ActionParsnip, ok , i just tried and opera gives me 503 error
[09:59] <corinth> Anyone know how to set Firefox to start in fullscreen mode?
[09:59] <blufad1> same was the case with firefox too
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: you can use similar to emerge in ubuntu with apt-build
[09:59] <Sucksbuntu> i cant use ubuntu
[09:59] <Sucksbuntu> cause my computer can't run bullshit xD
[10:00] <Boohbah> Sucksbuntu: then why are you here?
[10:00] <Ebdomos> Looky what I found, are we finally going to see more sweet games being made for linux?
[10:00] <Ebdomos> http://www.celetania.com/download.php#linux
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> corinth: http://www.mouserunner.com/FF_Tips_Full_Screen.html
[10:00] <gutterpunk> cause his time is not valuable
[10:00] <Sucksbuntu> just looking a lots of "geeks"
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: then install fluxbox and remove gnome / kde
[10:01] <SunnyDP> last linux game that amazed me was GOO world
[10:01] <root> heloo
[10:01] <Aetolus> Heya, anybody about who may be able to help me with getting my nvidia graphics card drivers going? Im using a GeForce 5600 FX, tried installing the new drivers with EnvyNG, but whenever I do after restart my monitor just goes into standbye mode and I have to use the Fix Xorg option in recovery... and I'm still kinda a newb =)
[10:01] <chu_> heil root
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: frets on fire, Penumbra
[10:01] <Sucksbuntu> ActionParsnip was done a lot of time ago :)
[10:01] <RudeBoi> do you guys predict linux will take over the world one day?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: are you running intrepid?
[10:01] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnips:i am not a gamer
[10:01] <Sucksbuntu> RudeBoi nop
[10:01] <chu_> one day?
[10:01] <SunnyDP> Thanks anyways
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: good lad
[10:01] <Aetolus> Hardy
[10:02] <Pegasos989> Hello. Where do I put a .so file I want to add to Firefox? I downloaded 64 bit version of Adobe Flash, got .so file and don't know what to do next with it
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:02] <Sucksbuntu> try Crossover :B
[10:02] <RudeBoi> do you think it will become standard on pc's
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: envyng is garbage
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Pegasos989: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:02] <sheldonh> i reported my broken affix support as bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330454
[10:02] <Sucksbuntu> RudeBoi if u dont know, linux is on standard pc's right now
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Pegasos989: cp <file.so> ~/.mozilla/plugins; killall firefox; firefox &
[10:03] <Sucksbuntu> on eeepcs i think
[10:03] <Pegasos989> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[10:03] <Aetolus> ActionParsnip: Is that the same driver that'd be installed if I went System - Administration - Hardware Drivers? Because I did try that first :)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: you can get xp on them too, its an option
[10:03] <Sucksbuntu> i have a mac :B
[10:03] <RudeBoi> i hear popular linux distros. only use tcp/ip
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: then also install nvidia-settings then run gksudo nvidia-settings
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: unlucky
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> maybe
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> idk
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: they can use any protocol you choose
[10:04] <chu_> macs destroy
[10:04] <Dreamglider> crdlb: you know where i can find a howto on editing source (what software i nned for editing souce)
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> Macs are the future
[10:04] <chu_> they're weapons
[10:04] <oCean_> RudeBoi: Sucksbuntu Take offtopic discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> i love my mac air
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> :D
[10:04] <corinth> Thanks ActionParsnip. :-)
[10:04] <primski> 2009/02/17 - linux-image-2.6.27-12-generic from proposed updates breaks my Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g wireless card.
[10:04] <primski> :(
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> primski: you may need to reset it up for the new kernel
[10:05] <chu_> I would have bought an iBook but this was half the price, I installed Ubuntu with awn etc and made it look mac
[10:05] <chu_> lol
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> primski: does the previous kernel work ok for you?
[10:05] <primski> ActionParsnil: yes, previous kernel works fine, running it now - how do i reset it ?
[10:05] <Aetolus> ActionParsnip: "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file and restart X server" ?
[10:06] <SunnyDP> Just letting ou guys know where i might be buying my next home: http://www.akademifantasia.org/?p=462
[10:06] <Sucksbuntu> chu_ ubuntu isn't mac .B
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> primski: if the kernel you are running is ok, why are you getting a new version?
[10:06] <Sucksbuntu> like ubuntu isnt linux
[10:06] <RudeBoi> how long does it take to upgrade to 8.10?
[10:06] <primski> ActionParsnip - its an update - i always install updates - ur telling me this is wrong ?
[10:06] <Dreamglider> abt 20 minutes
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: depends on how fast the packages will come down
[10:06] <Dreamglider> 30min perhaps
[10:06] <primski> perhaps i should just disable proposed repo - but still updates are to be installed
[10:06] <mchelen> depends on system and net connection
[10:06] <Sucksbuntu> jsut trying to looks like windows cause ppl doens't know what's linux
[10:07] <chu_> I know.
[10:07] <chu_> I didn't say it was, did I?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: on a 56k connection, hours and hours, on dual T3 connection. A few seconds
[10:07] <RudeBoi> i have dsl
[10:07] <Dreamglider> my 2x 2ghz 2gb and 4Mb connection upgraded from .04 to .10 in abt 20-30 minutes
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: dsl ranges in speed
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: if its over the internet, the speed of the pc is irrelevant
[10:08] <RudeBoi> and standard pci bus type
[10:08] <chu_> RudeBoi, are you on a laptop?
[10:08] <mchelen> it shouldnt take too long, if you have a modern pc you can do stuff while it updates
[10:08] <Dexi> Hey does anyone know a good way to "record what you hear"? im using a pci sound card and for some reason the sound recorder doesnt work and i cant get audacity to record anything either
[10:08] <RudeBoi> nope desktop
[10:08] <chu_> k
[10:09] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip: it takes some cpu power to setup all the new packages does it not ?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: you could be running a CRAY with 200 CPUs an 40Tb of RAM on a 28.8Kbps modem and it'd update slower, but te cray is several billion times faster than your system
[10:09] <mchelen> well there are two phases of upgrade, download and then install
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: once its down its all the cpu, but the vast bulk of time is usually downloading
[10:09] <Dreamglider> ok ok
[10:10] <fw1_> nick incorrect
[10:10] <Dreamglider> im not so keen on this linux thing yes
[10:10] <chu_> why not?
[10:10] <mchelen> depends if you have an older system or not, my laptop has net but slow cpu
[10:10] <chu_> It's pretty good from my angle.
[10:10] <Dreamglider> what is CRAY ?
[10:10] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnips: Never heard about CRAYS until today :D WOW
[10:11] <chu_> super computer
[10:11] <SunnyDP> CRAY = super super super PC
[10:11] <Dreamglider> lol
[10:11] <Dreamglider> i want a CRAY !
[10:11] <SunnyDP> http://www.cray.com
[10:11] <RudeBoi> so, they coming out with nano technology computers yet?
[10:11] <mchelen> i want a google cluster ;)
[10:11] <SlimeyPete> I want a sandwich
[10:11] <chu_> Have they come out with nano much yet?
[10:12] <RudeBoi> i hear they have a nano calculator
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: bug uber super computers with a tonne of processing power
[10:12] <mchelen> cpu fabs are on nm scale
[10:12] <chu_> There's apparantly a quantum computer in the works at my university, though I haven't seen anything.
[10:12] <quibbler> i want enough money for a Cray
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> quibbler: better get saving :)
[10:13] <SunnyDP> itLOL :D
[10:13] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnips:what range of $$$ are we speaking of?
[10:13] <quibbler> i think i'll settle for a sandwich
[10:13] <chu_> yeah, the sandwich would be better.
[10:13] <quibbler> and cheaper
[10:13] <chu_> Infinite debt is no worth infinite computation
[10:13] <RudeBoi> once nano is standard, so will robots with reasoning be
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: millions
[10:14] <oCean_> !offtopic
[10:14] <InCrypto_work> makes no sense fot a CRAY unless ur providing a service nationwide or worldwide
[10:14] <InCrypto_work> like Hosting or sumtin ;ike tht
[10:14] <RudeBoi> k, i will keep in on topic
[10:14] <SunnyDP> yup :D just checked it out , they go for millions of $$$
[10:14] <SunnyDP> and the monkey that i am , i was looking for 1 on ebay :D
[10:15] <Dreamglider> InCrypto_work: it could perhaps increase the framerate on heroes III running in ubuntu :P
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> InCrypto_work: or you want a badass foldingAtHome score
[10:15] <leanna> Hi, how to scan wireless connection?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> leanna: sudo iwlist scan
[10:15] <chu_> What about university research?
[10:15] <chu_> lol
[10:16] <SunnyDP> Digital Media 			Earth Sciences 			Energy 			Financial Services 			Government and Defense 			Higher Education 			Life Sciences
[10:16] <SunnyDP> this is what they are for
[10:16] <Guest15198> exit
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> chu_: or a citri server for a few thousand users
[10:16] <InCrypto_work> exactly SunnyDP they are targeted for service sectors only i guess..
[10:16] <leanna> ActionParsnip: it cannot detect my wireless card
[10:16] <SunnyDP> not for your average gamer :D
[10:17] <SunnyDP> not even for your average university :S
[10:17] <chu_> hence research university
[10:17] <SunnyDP> leanna: do you see it when you : ifconfig -a
[10:17] <SunnyDP> ?
[10:17] <InCrypto_work> SunnyDP Unless the avergae gamer is rich as the King of saudi :)
[10:17] <[ZAF]-Coral> Good  morning/afternoon/evening
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> leanna: then you will need to get drivers for it
[10:17] <SunnyDP> InCrypto_work: did you see the link i pasted before ?
[10:17] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ?
[10:18] <leanna> SunnyDP: no
[10:18] <SunnyDP> check out these houses: http://www.akademifantasia.org/?p=462
[10:18] <lvlefisto> I have now pulseaudio working for skype and realplayer except for the mic on skype. I have it using ALSA. Does anyone know how to make the mic work with pulseaudio?
[10:18] <distant_voice> I used to multi-boot, and all of a sudden GRUB doesn't come up anymore and the system boots straight into Windows? can anybody help me please?
[10:18] <SunnyDP> leanna:you do not see wlan0 ?
[10:18] <leanna> ActionParsnip: yes, i think i need a driver, now i use ifconfig -a it cannot detect the card.
[10:18] <leanna> SunnyDP: no
[10:18] <SunnyDP> oooh
[10:19] <SunnyDP> wait for ActionParsnips then
[10:19] <leanna> SunnyDP: only eth0, lo, and pan0
[10:19] <SunnyDP> ok
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> leanna: is it usb or pci?
[10:20] <lvlefisto> The problem is when i select pulseaudio in the input device it doesn't record almost any sound.
[10:20] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ? or where about I could find it...
[10:20] <gldtn> hello all... Iḿ having problems removing a bad package.. may someone help please?
[10:20] <leanna> ActionParsnip: u mean my wireless card?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> leanna: yes, is it usb or is it an internal device?
[10:21] <leanna> ActionParsnip: internal device
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: can you pastebin the command you are using as well as the error it generates
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok, run: lspci     in terminal and read the screen, one line will identify the wifi card
[10:22] <leanna> ActionParsnip: i got this line> Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[10:23] <distant_voice> someone please help. GRUB doesn't come up anymore when I boot the system and I can't get into Ubuntu anymore. I have no idea what did this... :(
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok and run lsb_release -c
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> !grub | distant_voice
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> leanna: whats it say?
[10:24] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/d49a9a14e
[10:24] <strange> hey guys is there a way to see current traffic usage on shell by users seperate so not a total amount kb/s traffic that is being done but user by user ?
[10:24] <leanna> ActionParsnip: Codename:intrepid
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok and can you run (lastly) uname -a
[10:25] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ? or where about I could find it...
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i would reinstall it over the top of itself and then uninstall, it seems some files are missing from the installation, you could use --force-all but i'd only use it as a last ditch
[10:26] <leanna> ActionParsnip: 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:26] <tangox> ...
[10:26] <distant_voice> Parsnip, I didn't install Windows, in fact, I did nothing to my config the last few times I used the computer
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok cool, you need madwifi + a patch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766169
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: if you run through it, the guide will get your grub sorted out as its clearly misconfigured
[10:27] <tangox> Any Chinese here?
[10:27] <[ZAF]-Coral> Ok.. Does any1 know how to set Screensaver to none ?
[10:28] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip is this something that happens once i a while without interference from the user? Or do you assume that I did something without knowing it? :S
[10:28] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, I I try to install I get http://pastebin.com/m5f22ab43
[10:28] <SunnyDP> tangox: 没有抱歉没有中文浏览
[10:29] <leanna> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: i couldnt say, maybe a user started playing and had sudo rights
[10:29] <mhangman> hi, i install ubuntu on windows
[10:29] <mhangman> can i share files between this 2 os?
[10:29] <SunnyDP> leanna: works now ?
[10:29] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ? or where about I could find it...
[10:29] <leanna> SunnyDP: installing
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install mfc240ccupswrapper
[10:30] <moniker127> Anyone use steam here?
[10:31] <p1oooop> hey guys
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> moniker127: i'd head into #winehq
[10:31] <pluesch0r> hi everybody. i'd like to create a deb package containing 2 ocf scripts that i wrote for heartbeat. i've read the new maintainer guide, but still don't know where to start/what tools to use. any pointers?
[10:31] <p1oooop> can anyone help me with saving live CD session data?
[10:32] <Aldus> hi, i would like to create an alias like: goto mydir that performs this command: "cd /var/www/mydir". How can I pass the parameter mydir to the alias, so that it can be part of the folder I want to access?
[10:32] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip I'm the only user, this is my computer at home. this is so frustrating
[10:32] <p1oooop> my laptop's HDD failed :(
[10:32] <SunnyDP> damn!
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: does grub actually load up?
[10:32] <fosco_> Aldus: $1
[10:32] <p1oooop> so, I'm stuck with live CD not that it isn't good
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Aldus: add the alias to ~/.bashrc
[10:33] <B|ackPanther> Is it possible to roll back after executing a couple of commands
[10:33] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, cannot find packages.. I installed these via .deb files.. I tried reinstalling them but no luck
[10:33] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip, no not at all, it boots straight into Windows
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: you could write ~/ to usb and mount that next time you boot, or install to the usb stick
[10:33] <fosco_> B|ackPanther: not an easy way, but can know what you have done by pressing up arrow
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: then the windows bootloader has overwritten grub
[10:33] <Aldus> ActionParsnip I already did it, but fosco's solution looks more like what I need
[10:33] <mick02> Aldus your alias should look like alias goto='cd /var/www' then all you need to type is goto mydir
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i'd go with some force then
[10:34] <Aldus> mick02 I need to go to cd /var/www/MYPARAMETER
[10:34] <vinkki> hi, does anyone know how to disable that "you have new email" notify of evolution email client ? (not very google friendly name for a program;)
[10:34] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip how can this happen? I booted each system a hundred times and all of a sudden the windows bootloader decides to ruin my day?
[10:34] <Aldus> so that goto xyz goes to /var/www/xyz, goto 123 goes to /var/www/123
[10:34] <p1oooop> AP, I kinda tried the guide on the ubuntu help website
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: does the system have 2 harddrives in it?
[10:35] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip yes it does
[10:35] <moniker127> How would I go about finding whether i'm using 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu?
[10:35] <mick02> Aldus, I'm not sure I understand. If you set up your alias to be cd /var/www/ then all you would need to do is to type goto mydir as the alias goto is cd /var/www/
[10:35] <Aldus> thank you fosco_ your solution works
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: you can tab complete my name. makes it highlight like i'm highlighting yours
[10:35] <fosco_> moniker127: uname -m
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: has someone been messing with bios settings?
[10:35] <Aldus> I made it with alias goto="cd /var/www/$1"
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Aldus: use ' not "
[10:35] <InCrypto_work> type in sudo init 6
[10:36] <Aldus> ok, why ?
[10:36] <moniker127> returns i686, im assuming that means 32?
[10:36] <B|ackPanther> i have executed this instruction and i want to move back if its possible : http://paste.ubuntu.com/119159/
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Aldus: thats how it is, read the other alias lines in the file
[10:36] <InCrypto_work> nah don do tht .. u wud hate me then
[10:36] <fosco_> moniker127: yes, 32bits
[10:36] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip no, I thought of that too, but no, I may have to doublecheck this though
[10:36] <Aldus> ok... thanks
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> moniker127: yes, i686 = 32bit. x86_64 = 64bit
[10:36] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get --force-all package?
[10:36] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip is there any other possible explanation for this?
[10:36] <mick02> Aldus check out http://pastebin.com/ffc35342
[10:36] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get --force-all package?
[10:36] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip thanks..
[10:36] <moniker127> does ubuntu have the same memory limitation of windows where it can only address something like 3 gigs with 32?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: sudo dpkg --force-all -r <package name>
[10:37] <mchelen> yeah but i think its more like 6gb
[10:37] <gldtn> oh
[10:37] <Boohbah> moniker127: no, just enable highmem support in the kernel
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: makes it less confusing in a channel af 1400
[10:37] <[OES]> Hi All
[10:37] <p1oooop> lol
[10:37] <fosco_> moniker127: yes and not, by default 32bits kernels can only allocate 3.5gb of ram
[10:37] <Manas> no audio only video on vlc player...why?
[10:37] <vinkki> or can someone say if that "you have new email" is a evolution or ubuntu "feature" ?
[10:37] <Boohbah> moniker127: yeah depends on how many bits you have for memory addressing
[10:37] <moniker127> well, i only have 4 gigs, maybe its just easier to format and install 64 or not bother
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> fosco_: true, but the server 32bit kernel + ram partitioning can go a little higher
[10:38] <shinoj> Manas can you hear sound otherwise?
[10:38] <[OES]> Im trying to edit /etc/network/interfaces with vim but its not allowing me to save. its saying add ! to override ??
[10:38] <fosco_> moniker127: but you can recompile your kernel with HIMEM support and get rid of that limitation
[10:38] <fosco_> moniker127: you'd better install 64bits ubuntu
[10:38] <B|ackPanther> and this has messed up my vm so i want to change back.
[10:38] <Manas> shinoj, i say on audio..only video...on vlc
[10:38] <ForeverSmurf>  My desktop system regularly hangs at the moment for a few seconds and then it becomes responsive again. I am looking for some clever suggestions in how to identify the problem
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: you dont override, that would make the whole OS hugely insecure
[10:38] <lvlefisto> moniker127: some software are not available for 64 bit ubuntu, let's say for example, java plugin for mozilla
[10:38] <ForeverSmurf> E.g: how do I know if it is X and not the kernel, etc...
[10:38] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, same error as the first.. not found.. I tried to run nautilus as root and going to the folder but it does no exist
[10:39] <Manas> totally no sound on ubuntu
[10:39] <moniker127> fosco, i'm not even going to bother with that. it isnt as easy for me as it is for you
[10:39] <p1oooop> is this working? Action
[10:39] <[OES]> So how do I update my network then
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: you need to use sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces
[10:39] <[OES]> I am ActionParsnip
[10:39] <[OES]> Im trying to get out of it
[10:39] <Dreamglider> who would i go about editing the source of the clock in the gnome panel ?
[10:39] <shinoj> Manas, i am asking are you able to hear the sound in any other application? start up sound?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: the file is not writable by normal users so needs sudo or gksudo if you use apps like gedit
[10:39] <[OES]> im in as sudo
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: try: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[10:40] <mick02> ActionParsnip, perhaps you could help me with something, I've got 2 HDD's installed, one runs a web server and the other runs Webmin. When I installed Webmin it wrote over my menu.lst, no matter what I do I can't figure out how to get the original menu.lst back. I've read lots of article online but so far I can't get both OS's to show up in the grub menu. Have you any ideas for me to try?
[10:40] <Manas> shinoj, no
[10:40] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip, well thanks for the links and the replys. I'll try to figure out the rest myself
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !grub | mick02
[10:40] <shinoj> Manas, it is not the problem with vlc.
[10:40] <mick02> ActionParsnip, I've been through both of those links but they're not helping me at all
[10:41] <shinoj> Manas try to install alsa
[10:41] <Manas> how?
[10:41] <shinoj> Manas alsa latest from their website
[10:41] <Manas> how
[10:41] <shinoj> Manas you have to compile it
[10:41] <Manas> i have compaq laptop
[10:41] <fosco_> Dreamglider: editing source code is not usual in ubuntu, are you sure you need to do that?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> mick02: you just need to add an extra option to one of the menu.lst file for the other hard drive, the one you choose will also need grub writing to the boot sector which is what the guide for windows overwriting the boot sector will help with
[10:41] <mick02> [OES] if you type sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces then make your changes then type :wq what happens to the file?
[10:41] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: wow... works
[10:42] <shinoj> Manas oh, compaq laptop?
[10:42] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks AP
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: wtg
[10:42] <Manas> cq40, 144tu
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: works with everybody elses name too
[10:42] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:42] <p1oooop> wow... I'm freezing
[10:42] <shinoj> Manas, then, i think, you dont need to compile alsa. almost all their hardware is recognized in linux
[10:43] <moniker127> if i installed the server kernel would it recognize 4 gigs of ram?
[10:43] <Manas> so what i do, shinoj?
[10:43] <shinoj> Manas it must be the problem with volume controller
[10:43] <mick02> ActionParsnip, cheers. I'll get stuck into it in a few hours, I need to give my brain a rest
[10:43] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, did you get my last message?
[10:43] <shinoj> Manas just try to adjust the volume
[10:43] <Manas> shinoj, i have vista, and works fine there
[10:44] <SiDi> moniker127, you need 64 bit version for the 4th gig to be recognised
[10:44] <shinoj> Manas and try to lower the volume, or maximze the volume, there is fine tune between somewhere
[10:44] <shinoj> it will work
[10:44] <Manas> ok..i try...shinoj
[10:44] <henhir> Hello there. I would like to change my window manager. But I can not find xinitrc anywhere in my homedir. What do I need to do? (Not using kdm or gdm or xdm)
[10:44] <shinoj> i think you must be having a realtek audio card
[10:44] <gldtn> is the bot here a tcl?
[10:45] <SiDi> henhir, if you don't have any .xinitrc, create it ? :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: try: file /etc/network/interfaces
[10:45] <fosco_> henhir: echo "your window manager > .xinitrc and restrt X
[10:45] <Manas> shinoj..no use
[10:45] <henhir> Thank you, I try
[10:45] <Manas> any other idea?
[10:46] <kyledr> how do i get XVideo to work with fglrx?
[10:46] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, ?? "try: file /etc/network/interfaces"
[10:46] <crdlb> kyledr: by disabling compiz :/
[10:46] <kyledr> crdlb: what?
[10:46] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: can ya help me with persistent mode on live cdboot?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: its a terminal command
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: its not something ive ever done
[10:47] <crdlb> kyledr: XVideo should work with fglrx, just not when a compositing manager is running
[10:47] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: well thanks anyway
[10:47] <kyledr> crdlb: i'm only using ion
[10:47] <crdlb> kyledr: hrm, what GPU?
[10:47] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, I think you mixed me up with someone else
[10:47] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip, thanks again. you were right, the bios messed up somehow.  WORK!
[10:48] <Bolin> Is it possible to install ubuntu 8.10 desktop without having grub installed during the installationen?
[10:48] <moniker127> this sounds like a terribly noobish question - and it is - but how can i tell whether i'm running 8.04 or 8.10? I used a cd from a while ago, and i never mark my cds
[10:48] <kyledr> moniker127: uname -a
[10:49] <crdlb> kyledr: open source driver doesn't work / isn't fast enough?
[10:49] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, you were helping me out with the bad state package removal... Thats ok.. I can see your quite the popular guy at this time
[10:49] <moniker127> ah thanks
[10:49] <kyledr> oh wait that's wrong
[10:49] <prince_jammys> moniker127: lsb_release -a . uname tells you about the kernel
[10:49] <henhir> How to setup my wm for multiheads?
[10:49] <kyledr> crdlb: never tried it
[10:49] <milligan_> Bolin, yes
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: ok try: sudo dpkg --force-all -r <whatever its called>
[10:49] <Bolin> how do i do that?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: whats that give you
[10:49] <kyledr> moniker127: that'll actually only tell you your kernel version
[10:49] <moniker127> are the -a and -m switches standard for most applications?
[10:49] <crdlb> kyledr: it's the default
[10:49] <milligan_> Bolin, click that you don't want to install grub.
[10:50] <prince_jammys> moniker127: often -a means 'all', but there's no rule about it
[10:50] <kyledr> crdlb: i had no video driver by default
[10:50] <Bolin> I never got that option when i installed last night?
[10:50] <kyledr> crdlb: i installed from the minimal disk
[10:50] <bhaka> Should I enable SATA AHCI mode in BIOS when installing Ubuntu 8.10 on a new machine?
[10:50] <Larie> hi
[10:50] <moniker127> ah okay
[10:50] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/d164c7445
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> bhaka: its offtopic here
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> !ot | bhaka
[10:50] <Larie> kakoy ircd server stabilney na ubuntu?
[10:51] <kyledr> moniker127: cat /etc/issue
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: sudo touch /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper/cupswrappermfc240c
[10:51] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, I also tried to sudo nautilus and going to the dir itś saying itś not there and I couldn find it
[10:51] <kyledr> crdlb: but fglrx should be able to do xvideo, but i can't understand what the deal is. perhaps a bad xorg config?
[10:51] <crdlb> kyledr: ok, install xserver-xorg-video-ati, uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, remove the Driver line from your xorg.conf, and reboot
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: then try again
[10:51] <crdlb> kyledr: fglrx is an abomination
[10:51] <gldtn> touch: cannot touch `/usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper/cupswrappermfc240c': No such file or directory
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i know, thats what touch will do, its gonna make the file to keep dpkg happy
[10:51] <Larie> help!!!!!!!!!!!!! what ircd server is most stable under ubuntu intrepid?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: just get that file made however you want
[10:52] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, can I make it on any dir and then touch?
[10:52] <kyledr> crdlb: ok, i have a feeling i'm about to have a broken X server. the driver was already installed but the xorg autoconfigure left me video-less until i installed fgrlx
[10:53] <crdlb> kyledr: well, r400 has been well-supported by the radeon driver for a while now
[10:53] <crdlb> if it doesn't work, it's definitely a bug
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: you may need to create the folders which the file that is missing is in
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: then create the file using a text editor or whatever, it just needs to exist. We are basically humouring the installer
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: you may need to make several subfolders if they arre not present on your system
[10:55] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: welll.... I'm off see ya sometime....
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: peace
[10:55] <prince_jammys> mkdir -p /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper && touch  touch /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper/cupswrappermfc240c
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> prince_jammys: that'll need sudo ;)
[10:55] <prince_jammys> one touch too many
[10:56] <prince_jammys> yeah
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> prince_jammys: didnt know mkdir could make subfolders like that if they all dont exist
[10:56] <prince_jammys> practical
[10:57] <fde> ActionParsnip: you've been around too long to not come across -p
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> oh definately but i was unaware
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> fde: didnt know, its dead handy, i always: mkdir foo; cd foo; mkdir bar; cd bar
[10:57] <kyledr> well xorg works with the open source drivers but it looks like 3d support went the way of old yeller... fps is 1/10th what it used to be on glxgears
[10:58] <kyledr> is there a way to get opengl working with the open source ati drivers?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[10:58] <crdlb> kyledr: first of all, glxgears is not a benchmark
[10:58] <kyledr> i guess technically it may have opengl support but it's crappy
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> kyledr: thats all i know. I dont use ati
[10:58] <fde> ActionParsnip: couple that with [foo,bar,etc] and you can do some pretty complex dir layouts on one command
[10:58] <eslam> hello how i can see my all hard disk PLS?
[10:58] <prince_jammys> { }
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> fde: totally :D:D
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> eslam: sudo fdisk -l
[10:59] <p1oooop> \loogout
[10:59] <fde> prince_jammys: I always get that muggled until I actually do it.. lol
[10:59] <prince_jammys> fde: :)
[10:59] <crdlb> kyledr: are you on hardy or intrepid?
[10:59] <kyledr> crdlb: intrepid
[10:59] <prince_jammys> fde: try this; echo (and now type alt { )
[11:00] <prince_jammys> alt+caps+[
[11:00] <eslam> this my 1St time to use ubuntu
[11:00] <andatche> ye
[11:01] <SiDi> !mount | eslam
[11:01] <SiDi> !fstab | eslam
[11:01] <crdlb> kyledr: what does   glxinfo | grep -i software   say?
[11:01] <SiDi> eslam, read about this, it'll explain you how to automatically mount your other HDDs so that they're available
[11:01] <kyledr> crdlb: OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> eslam: you have a lot to learn so all this will look daunting. but hang in there and you'll be fine
[11:02] <crdlb> kyledr: you have no 3d then
[11:02] <crdlb> kyledr: did you reboot?
[11:02] <kyledr> crdlb: no i restarted x
[11:02]  * crdlb said reboot for a reason
[11:02] <kyledr> oh i missed that
[11:02] <crdlb> fglrx still has kernel stuff loaded ;)
[11:03] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, thanks... the force option worked.. but just a quick question.. why should force be used as last resort.. does it do any harm to the system ? also should I run any other options after I run --force-all to clean or something?
[11:03] <fde> Why not just modprobe that stuff... and throw them into /etc/modules so you don't have to do it again later?
[11:03] <fde> Restarting is unnecessary.
[11:03] <fde> (or modprobe -r if you want it gone)
[11:03] <crdlb> fde: because fglrx does weird stuff
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: as it removes it even if there are problems which can remove files you need
[11:04] <crdlb> it's best to get an un-fglrxed kernel when testing if the radeon driver will actually work
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: force is basically not advised unless its super necessary
[11:04] <fde> gldtn: yes, it has a high likelihood of doing bad things... if it were entirely safe to do, the package manager wouldn't be trying to stop you.
[11:04] <amstrad83> hello to everyone
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i'd now run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: just to check everything is good and straight
[11:05] <kyledr> still software renderer =/
[11:05] <kyledr> lsmod|grep fglrx shows fglrx                1951452  0 ...?
[11:05] <gldtn> fde: thanks; you mean it can corrupt my entire O/S?
[11:06] <crdlb> kyledr: did you uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:06] <kyledr> crdlb: yes
[11:06] <crdlb> and didn't install it via some other means?
[11:06] <amstrad83> i'm italian ubuntu user with problem with "ATi" a tried to post my bug in italian support forum but still not replies, i'm so sorry for my english but is the best i can do, someone can help me in there?
[11:06] <kyledr> dunno, how do i check if it's installed besides trying to apt-get it?
[11:07] <savvas> kyledr: apt-cache policy yourpackage
[11:07] <SiDi> amstrad83, someone will probably help you if you tell us what your problem is exactly ;)
[11:07] <kyledr> crdlb: yeah it says it's not installed
[11:07] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, thanks for the great help
[11:08] <amstrad83> Sidi: thx i will try with my poor english ;)
[11:08] <crdlb> kyledr: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:08] <kyledr> crdlb: http://pastebin.com/f74123b2c
[11:09] <fde> gldtn: depending on package, sure... more likely is that that package simply won't run, or maybe it'll replace necessary files from other packages and break things
[11:09] <jaapvisser> i am trying to loop  mount a .img file like:  sudo mount -t ??? -o loop my.img /mnt/img  fdisk -lu  my.img tells me itś a id: 83 Linux image.. if i do sudo mount -t linux this does not work anybody a clue?
[11:10] <fde> gldtn: a lot of times though, upstream simply moves files from one place to another, so packages conflict based on this file, and you have to --force-replace to fix it... just have to know what you're doing.
[11:10] <kyledr> crdlb: dri isn't loading, some weird error. you see it?
[11:10] <crdlb> kyledr: yes, that's just the result of it seeing the fglrx module
[11:10] <gldtn> fde, thanks for the detailed info
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: np man
[11:11] <Guest50040> With new kernel connection to my usb modem stopped working.
[11:11] <fde> jaapvisser: -t auto doesn't find it? type 83 can be any of ext2 jfs reiserfs or xfs (ext3 and 4 are backwards compat. with ext2)
[11:11] <kyledr> crdlb: how can i get rid of it? did fgrlx mess with my kernel and i have to recompile it?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: thats why i said to reinstall it as it would put the missing file in more gracefully than just manually creatin it
[11:11] <crdlb> kyledr: I guess you can modprobe -r fglrx and modprobe radeon, but I have no idea why the fglrx module would load if the driver isn't installed
[11:12] <jaapvisser> fde tnx, did try ext2 + ext3 will try the other options also
[11:12] <kyledr> crdlb: my guess is apt-get remove doesn't fix the kernel to the way it was before fglrx was installed, assuming fglrx messes with it
[11:12] <fde> crdlb: radeon shouldn't need to be modprobe'd its part of DRI
[11:12] <bhaka> How to install Ubuntu with a USB stick?
[11:12] <kyledr> crdlb: reboot again?
[11:12] <crdlb> kyledr: it happens at boot via linux-restricted-modules
[11:12] <fde> jaapvisser: you should really just leave out the -t option altogether and let the command figure out the fs
[11:12] <X-tremAl_Raven> With new kernel connection to my usb modem stopped working.
[11:12] <fde> !usb stick
[11:13] <crdlb> fde: meh, I knew that :P
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: does the modemshow up in lsusb?
[11:13] <p1oooop> hey anyone know how to change a config file that is "owned" by root?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: sudo for command line based, gksudo for gnome based
[11:14] <p1oooop> I see
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: sudo nano /path/to/file
[11:14] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: I see
[11:14] <fde> bhaka: Umm, System > Administration > Create a USB boot disc
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: or gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[11:14] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: np man
[11:14] <fde> !usb-creator
[11:14] <fde> !botslap
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> !find usb
[11:14] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: so does it work with all conf. file types?
[11:15] <p1oooop> hey, I'm also looking for info on USB creator
[11:15] <jaapvisser> fde is i do a mount without the -t command i get : mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:15] <jaapvisser>  did try : -t ext2, ext3, jfs, reiserfs all fail
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: literally any file, if you want to edit the images in /usr/share/pixmaps (without copying the file first) you must use gksudo <some graphics package>
[11:15] <X-tremAl_Raven> ActionParsnip: Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0586:3309 ZyXEL Communications Corp.
[11:15] <fde> !help
[11:16] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:16] <X-tremAl_Raven> ActionParsnip: But dmesg show: usb 5-2: no configuration chosen from 1 choice
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: ok then find out how that is onfigured under your release of ubuntu
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: i'd also search for that
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: nice that you knew of dmesg :)
[11:16] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: dude, you're like a server... fast
[11:16] <amstrad83> I've an Ati Radeon 9800 and i modify the xorg.conf to use the dual view on my tv connectev via sVideo. if I change this file in this and restart the computer via ctrl+alt+del i have the aspected result but if shutdown or restart fisically the computer i can log in because it stop to a black screen... and the only way to fix is using the default xorg
[11:16] <amstrad83> Again sorry for my poor poor english
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: i dont use the mouse much, too sloooooooooow
[11:16] <bhaka> fde: thanks, ill try it
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: so my kb skills are ok
[11:16] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: LOL
[11:17] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: same thing the teacher tellls us
[11:17] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip:  lokkee here *(&^^ I;m freaking usiing the computer without a mouse...
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: mouse is for web browsing and telling k3b what to do (i dont burn cds at cli) otherwise I do the rest in yakuake
[11:17] <Viper111> how can i write an iptable command in order to allow smtp
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !iptables
[11:18] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: sometimes older things are better....
[11:18] <B|ackPanther> Does this error "could not exec /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx :Exec format error " mean i dont have permission to execute the file ?
[11:18] <fde> bhaka: haven't tried it myself, honestly, but it should be what you want... there is also 'uck' which might be better for you? not installed by default though (might be new to jaunty too idk)
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: run: file /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx
[11:18] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: great life lesson I learned
[11:19] <kyledr> it happened again with the dri not loading and fglrx loading.... dkpg started fglrx i think?
[11:19] <kyledr> i did the modprobe -r fglrx and modprobe radeon
[11:19] <fde> kyledr: dpkg doesn't start anything
[11:19] <kyledr> then restarted
[11:19] <B|ackPanther> ActionParsnip : i dont understand
[11:20] <kyledr> fde: well fglrx started right below a line about dpkg
[11:20] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Sorry, disconnected. Did you say something after you asked about lsusb?
[11:20] <fde> kyledr: ensure that fglrx isn't in /etc/modules or in any of the files in /etc/modprobe.d/  (just comment it out if it is)
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: its a terminal command. 'file' is the command '/usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx' is the argument
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: the command in full is: file /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx
[11:20] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: My last message was: But dmesg show: usb 5-2: no configuration chosen from 1 choice
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: you will need to websearch those outputs you found which i'm sure will turn up some gold
[11:21] <p1oooop> wow... pigdin just died
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: it tells you what sort of file it is
[11:21] <p1oooop> I was doing my jfkldas; chant
[11:21] <kyledr> how can i prevent fglrx from loading and making radeon load?
[11:21] <p1oooop> LOL
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> kyledr: blacklist it
[11:21] <kyledr> ActionParsnip: why would it want to start anyway?
[11:21] <nagatzul> Good afternoon everyone :) I got a problem that is recurring on other Ubuntu puters too, when I record sound I get a loud noise that sounds like a slow fan... Any idea why?
[11:21] <fde> kyledr: I just told you... but there is no radeon module... its part of DRI
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> kyledr: no idea
[11:21] <amstrad83> anyone for me or just anyone can undeerstand my prob
[11:21] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: I just found a flaw within pigdin
[11:21] <B|ackPanther> ActionParsnip : Am trying to start vmare and i get that error.So which file should i pass on  *.vmx ?
[11:22] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Kernel updated today. I'm not sure google indexes so fast.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> !vmware
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: or ask in #vmware
[11:22] <fde> !anyone
[11:22] <kyledr> fde: so what do i load if i want the open source ati driver to be loaded?
[11:22] <fde> kyledr: it'll be loaded automatically via dri  :/
[11:23] <kyledr> fde: ok thanks
[11:23] <p1oooop> ah vmware... the one thing that totally ruined my gaming comp... LOL JK
[11:23] <kyledr> fglrx being loaded despite not being installed bugs me a bit though
[11:23] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Your search - "ZyXEL Communications Corp" "no configuration chosen from " - did not match any documents. :((((
[11:24] <fde> kyledr: have to select 'radeon' as xorg Driver though... just throw 'blacklist fglrx' into any file in /etc/modprobe.d/ and it shouldn't be loaded again - then ensure xserver-xorg-driver-fglrx isn't installed (dpkg -l | grep fglrx as an easy check)
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: search for the usb identifier
[11:24] <p1oooop> well... going to sleep and loosing mounds of data laters guys
[11:24] <kyledr> i may have gotten it via insmod, so how do i undo what insmod does?
[11:24] <fde> kyledr: something from fglrx is definitely installed currently.
[11:24] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: "ZyXEL Communications Corp" - that was it
[11:25] <fde> kyledr: you've been told 3 times now. you blacklist it.
[11:25] <fde> kyledr: insmod is just a lowerlevel interface to modprobe
[11:25] <fde> Do not play with it unless you know what you're doing.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: if you look slightly before that you will see some hex didgits
[11:25] <fde> (same with rmmod)
[11:26] <kyledr> fde: i did blacklist it, but it seems like a band-aid rather than the answer
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: e.g. ID 0424:2228
[11:26] <amstrad83> Does anyone why if i restart with ctrl+alt+del after i modify my xorg file to use dual view my pc is ok, but if i restart fisically or i shutdown i need to move back at the original xorg or i get a black screen?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: if you search for the hex didgits you may come up with something. Those are from my pc so won't help you
[11:26] <nagatzul> Good afternoon everyone :) I got a problem that is recurring on other Ubuntu puters too, when I record sound I get a loud noise that sounds like a slow fan... Any idea why?
[11:26] <kyledr> i found the fglrx module in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/update/dkms/fglrx.ko i remember fglrx starting at boot under dkms. what's dkms?
[11:26] <fde> kyledr: the answer is to ensure nothing related to fglrx is currently installed... via dpkg -l | grep fglrx ... blacklisting is not a bandaid, it is a very proper way to configure udev
[11:27] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Same results.
[11:27] <n2diy> nagatzul: could be external noise, powerline hum, etc...
[11:28] <nagatzul> n2diy: it ain't there in Vista
[11:28] <fde> kyledr: Dynamic Kernel Module System... it allows for binary drivers to maintain functionality through kernel updates
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: then id run lsmod > ~/bad.txr  then boot to the working kernel and run lsmod > ~/good.txt   and compare
[11:28] <nagatzul> And it's way to loud to be external noise, it overpowers my voice
[11:28] <fde> Actually, all drivers... but its only really necessary for binary ones
[11:28] <nono0494><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:29] <guigui_> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[11:29] <n2diy> nagatzul: Wrong module?
[11:29] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[11:29] <fde> kyledr: without dkms, you'd have to reinstall/recompile all drivers for the given kernel, even minor updates... it gets annoying
[11:29] <kyledr> dpks -l|grep fglrx says "rc xorg-driver-fglrx         2:8.573-0ubuntu1"
[11:29] <nagatzul> n2diy: Care to elaborate on that? :P
[11:29] <kyledr> fde: i used to have to do that with gentoo, it was
[11:30] <n2diy> nagatzul: A module is what Windows folks call a driver.
[11:30] <fde> kyledr: yeah, sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver-fglrx - then xorg won't keep trying to load that driver.
[11:30] <nagatzul> n2diy: This ugly little earpiece didn't come with drivers
[11:30] <crdlb> xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:30] <guigui_> how uninstall aplication ?
[11:30] <kyledr> fde: is that different than apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:30] <brasilll> alguem ala minha lingua?
[11:30] <erUSUL> !software | kyledr
[11:30] <erUSUL> !br | brasilll
[11:30] <kyledr> fde: the line is still there
[11:30] <brasilll> qualcuno parla italiano?
[11:31] <brasilll> ok
[11:31] <erUSUL> !it | brasilll
[11:31] <fde> kyledr: just shorter... I prefer aptitude... that is equivalent to apt-get remove --purge
[11:31] <brasilll> français?
[11:31] <guigui_> moi
[11:31] <guigui_> français
[11:31] <erUSUL> fde: apt-get now accepts purge iirc
[11:31] <kyledr> fde: ok, well the line remains "rc xorg-driver-fglrx   2:8.573-0ubuntu1"
[11:31] <fde> kyledr: you will have to restart X after removing that driver... then it should figure out that it needs to use radeon
[11:32] <saywatmang> Favorit++
[11:32] <kyledr> fde: ok thanks
[11:32] <fde> kyledr: rc means it didn't remove config files
[11:32] <kyledr> fde: can i force it?
[11:32] <n2diy> nagatzul:ok, then you'll have to be more specific. A slow fan could be a lot of things?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> fde:  erUSUL: use sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[11:33] <nagatzul> n2diy: Further it seems like it's mainly in aMSn... Let me get you a short clip
[11:33] <fde> kyledr: not at this point...
[11:33] <fde> ActionParsnip: no, I'll use aptitude - thanks
[11:33] <nagatzul> n2diy:  D'oh... Now I got bigger issues :P
[11:33] <fde> erUSUL: could be, I don't follow apt-get development
[11:33] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: i know i was pointed out that now "apt-get purge package" is valid
[11:33] <kyledr> fde: aww. oh well thanks a lot
[11:34] <B|ackPanther> Does swapping the folders here mv /usr/bin/vmware /usr/bin/vmware.orig reverse the command ?
[11:34] <fde> aptitude is more powerful... apt-get is just wget on steroids  :/
[11:34] <dar> elo
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: you need --purge afaik
[11:34] <n2diy> nagatzul: What's the other issue? Don't bother sending me an audio, my speakerls aren't powered up.
[11:34] <dar> i d like to know how could i know if squid has been built with --enable-ssl option
[11:34] <fde> B|ackPanther: why are you asking about vmware here? it is not supported by ubuntu.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> fde: i dont get how you can need more power for something that installs and removes packages, what does aptitude do thats extra?
[11:35] <nagatzul> n2diy:  It went from a distinct pulsing noise to giving me "[12:33:16] An error occured when trying to record the sound : Could not gain access to /dev/dsp for writing."
[11:35] <DGRick> Can someone help me, how do I reinstall proftpd so I can make it standalone (Ubuntu Server)
[11:35] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: yu are on intrepid? do "apt-get help". Man page is out of day :|
[11:35] <fde> ActionParsnip: it has a more powerful such function... it is also more configurable with relation to Recommends and Suggests packages
[11:36] <fde> search*
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: ive not read that thing in tiiiiiiime
[11:36] <n2diy> nagatzul: ???? DSP sounds like digital signal processing, but what generates the errer?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> fde: apt-cache search brings down all you need. It reads the packages and descriptions. what more can you do there?
[11:36] <mjfcolas> #ubuntu-fr
[11:36] <nagatzul> n2diy: The act of clicking the voiceclip button in amsn
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> fde: all i can see is that it does the equiv of autoremove when you uninstall which is no big woop
[11:37] <nagatzul> n2diy: *sigh* This is getting worse, now aMsn closed down instead when I clicked it...
[11:38] <fde> ActionParsnip: I can say 'in packages that are part of gnome, search for this string' ... so I don't have to sit through scrolling text while it returns everything apt-cache would decide to spew at me
[11:38] <nagatzul> n2diy: Lemme just try the recorder in ubuntu first :P
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> fde: thats why we grep :)
[11:38] <n2diy> nagatzul: Do you have Audacity installed?
[11:38] <fde> ActionParsnip: why grep when I can do it more cleanly though?
[11:38] <Mindpoke> Can anyone help me find out why my laptops wlan isn't working? my wlan mini PCI-e card is showing up in "lsusb" which is confusing to say the least. =/
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> fde: i can see the not gnome apps is useful, Agent_Bob gave me a script a bit ago to determine
[11:39] <fde> ActionParsnip: and grep doesn't help with depends or long descriptions
[11:39] <delly> hi
[11:39] <nagatzul> n2diy: Don't think so, however I noticed that it's fine in the regular recorder so it's an aMsn issue instead..
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> fde: im comfortable with grep, plus i dont have to install an extra app
[11:39] <fde> ActionParsnip: aptitude is installed by default
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> fde: but i can see your point but I use my systems for the same stuff so I know exactly what needs to be on them
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> fde: i always remove it as well as getdeb and adpept-notifier
[11:40] <delly> wamp is workable or not on ubuntu
[11:40] <n2diy> nagatzul: ok, so we are sure it is external, and not coming from your box?
[11:40] <fde> ActionParsnip: I've been using aptitude exclusively since mid etch development... apt-get and apt-cache are a pita when you're used to it
[11:40] <Favorit> ik ga zo over een uurtje naar huus, dan ga ik ff belluh
[11:40] <nagatzul> n2diy: It only happens in aMsn so yes, positive.
[11:40] <Favorit> oops
[11:40] <Favorit> sorry
[11:40] <zaggynl> lmao
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> fde: ive had no worries, ive helped countless folks in here with apt-cache searches
[11:41] <Boohbah> delly: windows apache php mysql? ubuntu is not windows
[11:41] <fde> ActionParsnip: I've only been using Debian-based since 98 though, so thanks for your input on what I should use...
[11:41] <Favorit> Boohbah: but but, my ubuntu has nice wondows which I can move around! :P
[11:41] <Favorit> windows, too
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> fde: i never said what yo should or shouldnt use, just the advantages you say that aptitude has arent really anything over apt for me
[11:42] <Boohbah> delly: but if you s/windows/linux/ then it is workable
[11:42] <fde> ActionParsnip: lol... thats cuz most new features of apt-get and apt-cache come directly from modifications to libapt due to aptitude
[11:42] <Favorit> apt forever. I'm using debian distro's for like 15 years now, i always get lost in damn aptitude
[11:42] <n2diy> nagatzul: ok, I'm not familiar witht aMsn, but if that seems to be the problem, sniff on that. Could it be a connection issue?
[11:42] <Favorit> which whacko wrote it...
[11:43] <Favorit> nagatzul: I'm familiar with aMsn and can spank it's coders, what's the issue?
[11:43] <Favorit> its*
[11:43] <delly> i have unstall wamp on ubuntu but this is not working properperly
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> fde: im not talking about where anything is derived from. I just cant see why i need aptitude and apt if apt does everything. You say it has advantages and from what you have explained its still and previously was a pointless application to me, thats all i'm saying
[11:43] <nagatzul> Favorit: As soon as I try to send a soundclip it gives me a reeeally annoying distortion
[11:43] <DGRick> How do I edit .conf files in ubuntu Server?
[11:43] <fde> Favorit: I have never once ran the ncurses interface to aptitude... it is just a modern dselect though... and both are frontends to apt, so I highly doubt you've been using debian for 15 years
[11:44] <delly> so i wanna install lamp plz help me
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> DGRick: nano, if they are not in your home dir, sudo nano
[11:44] <p1oooop> this seems alot like a chat program i know of caller flashchat
[11:44] <erUSUL> !lamp | delly
[11:44] <DGRick> ActionParsnip thx
[11:44] <radu> hi
[11:44] <lvlefisto> I have now pulseaudio working for skype and realplayer except for the mic on skype. I have it using ALSA. Does anyone know how to make the mic work with pulseaudio?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> fde: do you see my point?
[11:44] <lvlefisto> The problem is when i select pulseaudio in the input device it doesn't record almost any sound.
[11:44] <Favorit> fde: I know that they are frontends, but I've always made what I wanted to achieve with apt faster than figuring out aptitude or dselect
[11:44] <erUSUL> DGRick: with your text editor of choice using sudo
[11:45] <fde> ActionParsnip: No.
[11:45] <Favorit> nagatzul: send? when you send soundclip it shouldn't be playing it really
[11:45] <nagatzul> Favorit: Oh it doesn't, it's just when I play it up myself, or the reciever clicks it, it's like, my voice and a distinct "I just shoved the mic into the spinning fan" kind of sound
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fde: to me aptitude offers nothing more and I asked you to explain the advantages and from what you said, its what i already do with an extra command which is fine for me. so its still a dead app to me
[11:46] <Favorit> nagatzul: and what is your default mediaplayer that aMsn tries to invoke?
[11:46] <fde> Favorit: aptitude shares most of the cli commands with apt-get and apt-cache, with a few more thrown in to make life easier... if you know apt-get there is no learning curve to using aptitude
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fde: ive been waiting for someone who uses it instead of apt to find out the difference
[11:46] <nagatzul> Favorit: Good question, I have no clue :P
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fde: thats all, then you started going on about features and thinking i told you what to use which was bizarre
[11:46] <Spark> what's the point of using aptitude on the commandline?
[11:47] <Spark> it coexists perfectly with apt-get
[11:47] <Boohbah> Favorit: This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[11:47] <Spark> i use aptitude for the nice browsing gui
[11:47] <Spark> for sorting out messed up dependencies and that kind of thing
[11:47] <azzarev> Hi guys
[11:47] <fde> Favorit: before aptitude, I used to use deborphan and debfoster to manage some of the same things that aptitude does for me... that apt-get can now do the same is irrelevant because I still like the more advanced functions of aptitude (like trying to solve dep issues for me, instead of just giving me a useless error)
[11:47] <Boohbah> Spark: i've heard that it sometimes resolves complex dependencies better than apt-get alone.
[11:47] <Spark> on the command line?
[11:47] <niyado> hello
[11:48] <azzarev> Someone know some application to create internet point with ubuntu?
[11:48] <Spark> as soon as i get a dependency problem i want to sort it out myself though :)
[11:48] <Favorit> fde: well, let's put it this way - i never felt the need to learn anything else than apt :) it's prolly easier, better, faster, whatnot, I just hate having to browse through gui that _is_ default. And I've never had the need to look for keys that disable gui when basically apt always did the trick without any hassle with guis and disabling those
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: do you mean a web proxy?
[11:48] <Boohbah> azzarev: what is an internet point?
[11:48] <niyado> i need to know what is the command to put the ubuntustudio environment in ubuntu main
[11:48] <Spark> as it's usually me who caused it in the first place
[11:48] <azzarev> internet cafe
[11:48] <Favorit> fde: it's pretty much the same as some people have emacs as their default shell. They're used to it, they can't live without :-)
[11:48] <fde> Favorit: the tui is not default... it is just what you end up with if you don't read the man page
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Favorit: thats kinda my point, i thought itd be cool to see how the other half lived but it appears to ffer no extra features as far as I can see
[11:49] <Favorit> fde: it's not the default?
[11:49] <Spark> aptitude is more about browsing deep through dependencies, it's a gui, if you know exactly what you want it's quicker to just apt-get install blah or whatever
[11:49] <Boohbah> niyado: sudo su -c 'echo deb http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio feisty main >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:49] <Boohbah> niyado: wget -q http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[11:49] <Favorit> fde: install default debian/ubuntu, do NOT read any manpages, tweak any configs. type aptitude. You don't get tui?
[11:49] <Boohbah> niyado: s/feisty/whatever/
[11:49] <Favorit> that's one hell of an interesting default install you got there then
[11:50] <fde> Favorit: yes... but I've never typed aptitude by itself because I read man pages for all commands before I hit enter.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> fde: Favorit: each to their own but its nice to see what else there is
[11:50] <azzarev> I'm looking for an application to create a complete internet cafe. I have tried Openkiosk but it doesn't work.. any Idea?
[11:50] <nagatzul> Favorit: How do I check ?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: you can run an ubuntu box as a router
[11:51] <Favorit> fde that's another point. in an ideal posix world we have no tui's/gui's and we get syntax help after hitting commands :) (yeah, spank me up and call me charlie)
[11:51] <Favorit> nagatzul: let me have a look, moment
[11:51] <fde> aptitude = dselect deborphan debfoster apt-get apt-cache and automatic issue resolving built into one command.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: you need to be specific
[11:51] <Favorit> apt = knowledge of package structure and package manager without having to depend on presence of various tools :)
[11:52] <azzarev> ActionParsnip: I need to manage an internet cafe: credit, time, user. 6 client and 1 server
[11:52] <fde> Most every apt-get command you've ever seen is applicable to aptitude
[11:52]  * Favorit is bucking up and preparing for holy war. Whjeee, drama! :)
[11:52] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/
[11:53] <Boohbah> azzarev: openkiosk looks good. why does it not work for you?
[11:53] <azzarev> Boohbah: I have tried openkiosk, but during compile some file is missed
[11:53] <Favorit> nagatzul: hit Ctrl-P
[11:53] <Favorit> nagatzul: go to "other" tab
[11:54] <Favorit> nagatzul: look at sound server settings
[11:54] <azzarev> Boohbah: I think the is not complete at this time
[11:54] <Favorit> nagatzul: by default it uses aplay which probably sucks ass :)
[11:54] <Boohbah> azzarev: you will probably need to install qt dev libraries
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: aim it at azzarev
[11:54] <blakesu> hi, everybody
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !info openkiosk
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: did you get all the dependancies of it?
[11:54] <Boohbah> looks semi-proprietary.
[11:55] <azzarev> yes during ./configure and make all is fine
[11:55] <azzarev> when I make install I miss some file
[11:55] <nagatzul> Favorit: aplay $sound  is what it says
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: then you dont have the dependancys of the compilation
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: which you can install in
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: did you search for a guide on the forums to install the app?
[11:56] <anaislaclerc> Does anyone know how I can get my wireless adapter working on ubuntu minimal install? It works automatically on regular ubuntu automatically
[11:56] <azzarev> ActionParsnip: yes I did, i followed step by step
[11:57] <fde> azzarev: you are using KDE? ask in #kde - there is a tool they've put together that makes internet cafe's pretty easy to set up... also, there are things like pessulus for gnome
[11:57] <nagatzul> Favorit:  So what should I change to?
[11:58] <fde> azzarev: neither comes with any way to do time-based access though... there is something on kde-apps that does that however, idk about for gnome though
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: seems to use QT libs which are part of kde, do you have the QTlibs installed?
[11:58] <azzarev> fde: I have used KDe too.. ActionParsnip: QT libs are installed correctly
[11:58] <fde> azzarev: openkiosk only works with kde
[11:59] <fde> azzarev: well, kde and windows
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: do you have the -dev packages for each of the libs it uses?
[11:59] <Aeosynth> how do i get synaptic's quick search to see non-ubuntu packages?
[11:59] <Favorit> nagatzul: hmm, could try that built-in tcl library to see if it will help any
[11:59] <nagatzul> Favorit: It didn't
[11:59] <anaislaclerc> meow?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: they will all be ubuntu packages?
[11:59] <azzarev> fde: so I try to compile again ande KDE. ActionParsnip: All libs says are OK!
[12:00] <Aeosynth> ActionParsnip: well, the ones without the ubuntu symbol
[12:00] <Favorit> nagatzul: to be honest with all due respect to Alvaro, TCL isn't the best language to write msn in ;)
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: then if you pastebin the compile error we may be able to advise
[12:00] <fde> azzarev: yes, you'll need all the kde -dev packages that that software requires
[12:00] <azzarev> fde: ok I do now.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: i dont use synaptic myself but now thats clearer maybe someone else can advise
[12:00] <Favorit> nagatzul: and if you type "aplay <thatfile.mp3>" or whatever you try to play in amsn, does it sound ok, or also with distortion?
[12:01] <fde> azzarev: note that just having the libs won't cut it... for compiling you _require_ the -dev package
[12:01] <Favorit> nagatzul: i.e. type that in shell, not in amsn
[12:01] <Aeosynth> how do i get rid of system beeps? they're very frequent, loud, and annoying on this laptop
[12:01] <fde> Aeosynth: gnome?
[12:01] <azzarev> fde: ok, thanks. I try.
[12:01] <Aeosynth> fde: yes. ubuntu 8.10
[12:02] <fde> Aeosynth: System > Preferences > Sound ... under the Sounds tab
[12:02] <fde> Aeosynth: just uncheck that stuff, then your system is a lot less annoying  :)
[12:03] <Sw3RvE> how do i get rid of those beeps on xubuntu?
[12:03] <anaislaclerc> nobody knows how I can get my wireless adepter working?
[12:03] <Aeosynth> fde: thanks! :)
[12:03] <fde> Sw3RvE: no idea, look in their config editor tool under the sound preferences
[12:04] <anaislaclerc> I heard you can get rid of system beeps with the alsa mixer
[12:04] <Sw3RvE> i tried the way previously mentioned for Aeosynth but i dont have that option.
[12:04] <fde> anaislaclerc: if you mute sound, perhaps? but otherwise no
[12:04] <Aeosynth> how do i get synaptic's quick search to see packages not maintained by canonical (ie no ubuntu icon)?
[12:05] <fde> Sw3RvE: you won't... but there will be something similar... just look around, I haven't used XFce in like 3 years
[12:05] <anaislaclerc> fde: yeah, I think they have a tab for system sound so you can just mute that
[12:05] <fde> anaislaclerc: not in alsamixer they don't
[12:05] <Sw3RvE> i found sound... they only have like 5 or 6 checkboxes in there tho
[12:06] <Mindpoke> anaislaclerc You can disable the system beeps by just disabling the pcspkr module
[12:06] <quibbler> Aeosynth, add other reproś to your source list
[12:06] <Sw3RvE> what is master and pcm (sound)
[12:06] <Sw3RvE> im assuming master means any sound including the music im listening to.
[12:07] <groogy> Yo! I want to install a certain package available in the repository though the 32bit version. Can I do that trough synaptic?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> groogy: you can install 32bit apps on 64bit as long as you have ia32 libs
[12:07] <kamyk> Witam all
[12:07] <Sw3RvE> 64 bit ftw :)
[12:07] <groogy> Yeh, but how do I find the package? :(
[12:08] <Favorit> apt-cache search :P
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> groogy: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[12:08] <kamyk> hi all
[12:08] <kamyk> i have a small problem ;D
[12:08] <groogy> I have already installed that package... Though I want the mysqlclient library in 32bit
[12:08] <groogy> I can't find the package
[12:08] <Favorit> kamyk: we all have some small problems, that's why we're all on IRC. Don't be afraid to share it with us! :)
[12:09] <kamyk> so
[12:09] <kamyk> i ff3
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> groogy: search the ubuntu package list and download the 32bit deb you need
[12:09] <kamyk> ;>
[12:09] <groogy> searcj the ubuntu package list.. You mean like on launchpad?
[12:09] <fde> groogy: dpkg -L ia32-libs ... it doesn't install any binaries.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> groogy: then use: sudo dpkg --force-arch -i <deb file>
[12:09] <Aeosynth> quibbler: I'm talking about the package available by default in a new ubuntu install which don't have the ubuntu icon next to them. I don't need to modify my source list in order to install them
[12:09] <Aeosynth> packages*
[12:10] <kamyk> ??
[12:10] <fde> groogy: you can only install 32bit stuff on a 64bit system via the ia32-<package> packages though... apt-get doesn't currently support multiarch
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> groogy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/net/
[12:10] <quibbler> Aeosynth, sorry i misunderstood
[12:10] <groogy> Thanks for the help, let's hope I can find it :P
[12:10] <Favorit> kamyk: did i miss your question? or what does "i ff3" mean?
[12:11] <kamyk> no no
[12:11] <Sw3RvE> is there any easy way to get open office 3.0?
[12:11] <kamyk> so
[12:11] <kamyk> fire fox 3 ;)
[12:11] <kamyk> firefox* 3
[12:11] <Favorit> yes, fire fox 3
[12:11] <kamyk> and
[12:11] <Aeosynth> quibbler: np. do you know how to get them searched by quick-search?
[12:11] <kamyk> when i go to yt
[12:11] <fde> kamyk: did you want to share your actual question?
[12:11] <mathieui> Sw3RvE: TES
[12:11] <mathieui> *yes
[12:11] <mathieui> sorry
[12:11] <Sw3RvE> tes?
[12:11] <kamyk> so i got firefox3
[12:11] <Favorit> fde: he wants. about one word per line :)
[12:11] <kamyk> an when i go to youtube
[12:11] <mathieui> Sw3RvE: there is a ppa
[12:12] <kamyk> i have white screen
[12:12] <kamyk> an only text
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[12:12] <fde> Sw3RvE: yes... search google for openoffice ppa and add it to Package Sources under 3rd Party Repos in System > Administration
[12:12] <kamyk> but i gat flashplayer 10 an java
[12:12] <Favorit> kamyk: flash player plugin isn't loaded it seems
[12:12] <quibbler> Aeosynth, i have not used quick search...just the search button in synaptic
[12:12] <fde> kamyk: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:12] <kamyk> ok i try
[12:12] <Sw3RvE> will it matter if im using xubuntu
[12:13] <fde> Sw3RvE: no
[12:13] <fde> Sw3RvE: wait
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: not at all, get it in lad :)
[12:13] <Sw3RvE> i installed the word processor but its 2.4
[12:13] <fde> Sw3RvE: for Xubuntu... do sudo aptitude install xubuntu-restricted-extras - cuz I don't think it uses gstreamer
[12:13] <kamyk> <fde: and restart firefox ?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> fde: wouldnt that be seen as a dep and auto installed/
[12:14] <fde> kamyk: yeah
[12:14] <kamyk> kk
[12:14] <Sw3RvE> fde your speaking japanese to me
[12:14] <Sw3RvE> im a total noob even tho i use this and yellowdog lol
[12:14] <kamyk> hehe ;)
[12:14] <mjbraun> I have a SCSI attached CD jukebox. My system drops to initramfs during boot on kernels newer than <IP_ADDRESS>. Where should I look for help?  Is there a hardware specific mailing list I should try? The ubuntu users list couldn't help, nor could the web forums (it's an obscure problem, I'm sure).
[12:14] <fde> kamyk: well yeah, but for instance xubuntu uses listen instead of rhythmbox so you'd end up with a mess
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: you need an extra package, the command fde gave will install it, you can then follow the guide on the link I gave you to install it
[12:15] <Sw3RvE> do i type that into terminal?
[12:15] <fde> ActionParsnip: well, I'm wrong, but its still better to go with the -restricted-extras that corresponds with your subdist
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: yes
[12:15] <kamyk> fde: it;s this smae
[12:15] <groogy> Sorry to bug you again, but the package I need is: libmysqlclient15off though in 32bit, but I can't find it :(
[12:15] <fde> Sw3RvE: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-restricted-extras ... just copy and paste
[12:15] <Favorit> groogy: why would you need that in 32-bit?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> fde: if it makes it work then who cares :D
[12:16] <fde> groogy: why do you need 32bit?
[12:16] <groogy> To compile it for my server that has a 32bit architecture.
[12:16] <kamyk> fde: priv ?
[12:16] <Ermen> Hello, i have a question. What is the best browser for embedded linux
[12:16] <fde> groogy: set yourself up a 32bit chroot for such things
[12:16] <Sw3RvE> thanks!
[12:16] <fde> kamyk: no, ask the channel
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> +1 for 32bit chroot
[12:17] <Sw3RvE> now, is this going to enable all of this or just have it available for use?
[12:17] <groogy> Nah, It has worked fine with just telling gcc which architecture to use, so gcc only need a 32bit library.
[12:17] <groogy> for mysqlclient
[12:17] <fde> kamyk: are these things in about:plugins ?
[12:17] <fde> kamyk: I SAID DO NOT MESSAGE ME
[12:17] <Favorit> groogy: trust me to compile 32-bit applications in 64-bit env you do want the chroot :)
[12:17] <Favorit> groogy: otherwise you'll end up with a screwup of a binary
[12:17] <kamyk> kk
[12:18] <fde> This isn't AOL Chat ffs, I'm not your friend, I'm just trying to provide Ubuntu Support.
[12:18] <kamyk> so its this same
[12:18] <groogy> I don't care, It's ruby that's gonna run the library anyway, I only need the correct ELF format
[12:18] <kamyk> white scrren only text
[12:18] <kamyk> i have flas player 10 ad java
[12:18] <Favorit> groogy: lessee
[12:18] <fde> If you call your phone companies tech support, do you request the persons home phone number?
[12:18] <YlandeFaran> I have used the torrent client "Transmission" for some time now. But I get the notion that there should be better programs around.
[12:19] <fde> kamyk: those are listed in about:plugins ?
[12:19] <kamyk> no
[12:19] <YlandeFaran> Is there any special torrent client that anyone can recomend?
[12:19] <groogy> Favorit: I'm just a student and this is only supposed to be an engine that only I'm supposed to use for my School Project, so I don't need to be perfect.
[12:19] <fde> YlandeFaran: there are... what do you need from a torrent client though?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[12:19] <Favorit> groogy: yeah, sec, looking for a way for you to install 32-bit lib without fucking up the rest of the installation
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> why does torrentflux take so long to start downloading?
[12:20] <kamyk> i write in conslole
[12:20] <fde> !torrent is also Hey, you guys should replace "Azureus" with "Vuze" here as they changed their name.
[12:20] <kamyk> about:plugins
[12:20] <groogy> Favorit: Thx but the problem I'm having at the moment is to find the .deb file :P
[12:20] <YlandeFaran> fde: Oh, I don't know really. I like the idea of sharing.
[12:20] <kamyk> and i have dont' nw questions or somthing like that ;)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> kamyk: you put that in your web browser, not terminal
[12:20] <kamyk> my englisz is not perfect ;)
[12:21] <kamyk> aaa ok
[12:21] <fde> YlandeFaran: they all allow you to share, that is the point of torrents
[12:21] <Sw3RvE> why wont this package configuration let me advance
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> groogy: i gave you the link to search the repos to manually pull down the deb
[12:21] <fde> kamyk: are you using 64bit?
[12:21] <YlandeFaran> I don't need fancy colours and gizmos. I want it to be intuitive and efficient.
[12:21] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: no credits on the other side, port blocked by firewall, just bad luck with the host you want to download
[12:21] <Favorit> groogy that's not a problem, you use 8.10?
[12:21] <kamyk> Shockwave Flash
[12:21] <kamyk>     Nazwa pliku: libflashplayer.so
[12:21] <kamyk>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15
[12:21] <kamyk> Typ MIME 	Opis 	Rozszerzenia 	Włączony
[12:21] <kamyk> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Tak
[12:21] <kamyk> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Tak
[12:21] <FloodBot2> kamyk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <groogy> ActionParsnip: The library I needed wasn't there. For some wierd reason.
[12:21] <groogy> Favorit: Yepp
[12:21] <Sw3RvE>  1.  DEFINITIONS. "Software" means the code identified above in binary     ▒
[12:21] <Sw3RvE>  │     form, any other machine readable materials including, but not         ▒
[12:21] <Sw3RvE>  │     limited to, libraries, source files, header files, and data files),
[12:22] <YlandeFaran> fde: What are the general differences between different clients then?
[12:22] <fde> Sw3RvE: you have to agree to the terms of the java license...
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> i scrolled down... do i close terminal now?
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> how?
[12:22] <fde> YlandeFaran: interface
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> i pressed Enter
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: some offer services some dont, you choose the one that suits your needs
[12:22] <fde> Sw3RvE: now it should give you the option to select yes or no?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: some have a web interface for remote torrent management, some dont. Some use java, some dont
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> it has <Ok>
[12:22] <fde> Sw3RvE: I think you have to hit tab to get to them
[12:23] <Sw3RvE> thanks, yes tab made it work.
[12:23] <Sw3RvE> i hope i have a linux class in the future. im going to itt-tech for CNS.
[12:23] <fde> YlandeFaran: I would recommend you try Vuze, see what you make of it... another popular one is Deluge, but it is very similar to Transmission
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: they all download at the same speed they just give you different controls
[12:24] <YlandeFaran> What are the biggest things I'm missing when running transmission?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: compared to what?
[12:24] <fde> YlandeFaran: depends what you compare it to... nothing really though
[12:24] <peopel123> hi
[12:24] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download2.html Sw3RvE you may find this interesting
[12:24] <fde> YlandeFaran: if you try Vuze, you'll notice a LOT missing from transmission, but it depends what you actually want out of such a tool
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: tr a few, see which you like and stick with it
[12:25] <Favorit> groogy: may i msg you the url?
[12:25] <YlandeFaran> I'll do that, probably starting with Vuse.
[12:25] <groogy> Favorit: Sure
[12:25] <YlandeFaran> Thanks for the guidance. :)
[12:25] <mick02> This is a lttle OT but has anyone got Dropbox to work with Ubuntu through a http proxy
[12:26] <groogy> Finally :D Thx Favorit
[12:26] <Sw3RvE> ok finished installing. now do i search for office 3.0?
[12:27] <kamyk> can sombody help mne ?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:27] <Favorit> groogy: no probs :)
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: you'll need a ; in there. let me retype
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <Favorit> groogy: although the prope way would be to debootstrap a 32-bit chroot :)
[12:28] <sipior> kamyk: best if you just ask your question, friend. if anyone can help, they probably will.
[12:28] <Str0g0n0ff> hi, on Network Manager how can i put an Automatic Keyring without any problems on login ?
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> i did that but
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <groogy> Favorit: Yeah I guess, but since it's just a school project and only for this: http://td.groogy.se so it's not important
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> oops
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:28] <Favorit> !pl | kamyk
[12:29] <Sw3RvE> is that what its supposed to say?
[12:29] <Favorit> Sw3RvE: that means you're up to date
[12:29] <Sw3RvE> ah, thanks :)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: if you have followed http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: then you are up to date, launch an OOo app
[12:30] <Sw3RvE> i didnt follow that yet... i just did what ive been told in here so far.
[12:30] <spexi> How can I change the locale in ubuntu server 8.04 without reboot?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: then thats your next jump
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> !locale | spexi
[12:32] <ramvi> [KERNEL HELP] sudo modprobe DRIVER works for me. But I have to do it on every boot. How do I have it automated?
[12:32] <fde> ramvi: throw it into /etc/modules
[12:32] <arvind_khadri> ramvi, add it to rc.local
[12:32] <Sw3RvE> alright so after doing what you guys told me to run in terminal i can now move onto the guide?
[12:32] <ramvi> fde: Didd add it to /etc/modules . Didn't help
[12:32] <arvind_khadri> ramvi, ya that too can be done... what fde said
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> ramvi: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[12:32] <fde> ramvi: do NOT do what arvind_khadri said, that is a lazy hack coming from rpm or slack systems
[12:32] <ramvi> arvind_khadri: I'll try that. Thanks!
[12:32] <spexi> seems that reboot is still required
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> ramvi: add it to the bottom of that file
[12:33] <arvind_khadri> fde, oh really?
[12:33] <fde> !rc.local
[12:33] <Favorit> euh, don't add modules to rc.local, that's just plain wrong
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> why not, it works
[12:34] <Favorit> it's bad taste
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> the /etc/modules file is awesome
[12:34] <sipior> agreed, there's already a mechanism for ensuring that modules are loaded at boot...
[12:34] <Favorit> there's a proper place to force modules load
[12:34] <fde> arvind_khadri: yeah, it is preferred to actually write an init script
[12:34] <Sw3RvE> do i leave deb on the front? ~~> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[12:34] <arvind_khadri> fde, Favorit, thanks... didnt know about it... will make a not of it
[12:34] <arvind_khadri> Sw3RvE, ya
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: yes
[12:35] <azzarev3> fde: about openkiosk, I have always the same error under kde
[12:35] <Favorit> what they said while i was typoing your nick
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: the other front you'll see is deb-src
[12:35] <Favorit> :P
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: which contain source code
[12:35] <fde> Sw3RvE: yes, if you're adding to the file itself, I think Software Sources just wants the URL though
[12:35] <fde> azzarev3: what is the error?
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[12:35] <liberty> õóé
[12:35] <liberty> ïèçäà
[12:35] <bazhang> !ru
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> ok im using xunbuntu and its different from what this guide has
[12:36] <azzarev3> fde: now I compile again I give you in private
[12:36] <unimatrix9> hello every one
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> i entered the APT line
[12:36] <fde> ramvi: you can also add it to /etc/modprobe.d/anyfile ... but I don't like or recall the syntax for that...
[12:36] <bazhang> Sw3RvE, same basic ideas though
[12:36] <fde> azzarev3: no, pastebin it
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> but i dont have the button im supposed to click
[12:36] <ramvi> fde: thanks for your time :D
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> oh nevermind lol
[12:36] <unimatrix9> how can i find out on the command line if a ubuntu is 64 bit / 32 bit? lsb_release only shows the version
[12:36] <gfather> guys any recomdenatoin for a light ide ?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: uname -a
[12:37] <gfather> im on linux
[12:37] <unimatrix9> ok
[12:37] <Sw3RvE> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[12:37] <gfather> ahh wronge chat :)
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: i686 == 32bit,x86_64 == 64bit
[12:37] <req^> When is /etc/environment ran? If I have a ssh-access only server, if I change /etc/environment, will the changes be applied when I next log in via SSH?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: read the guide better