[22:46] <daftykins> rdk87: you mean you're not up for learning, you want the answers?
[22:46] <nnin>  Bashing-om The result is control  sda2_crypt
[22:46] <nnin> Bashing-om not very helpful
[22:46] <rdk87> you mean you're not up for helping, refer people to googleable answers?
[22:47] <daftykins> rdk87: i'm not trying to be rude here, i'm asking seriously :)
[22:47] <AcidRain2012> greetz
[22:47] <RudeViper> daftykins - maybe but there are a ton of them out there - and it's about all I can afford right now.
[22:47] <daftykins> i gave you resources for how to learn how, if you're saying you don't want that - fair enough
[22:48] <AcidRain2012> k, i would like to add a user who can have ssh access to /var/www. WHAT should the permissions on my /var/www files be, and what is the best way to do this?
[22:48] <rdk87> daftykins, yes, I am not in the moment to dive through grub. I guess it should be obvious, else I'd be googling.
[22:48] <daftykins> rdk87: no, people come in here all the time unwilling to search for themselves. this is why i ask.
[22:48] <RudeViper> would probably be easier if I could find out who the manufacturer is
[22:48] <AcidRain2012> as of right now. i have added myself to the www-data group. and did chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www. but when i login via ssh, and i upload a file.... the file gets uploaded as "acidrain:acidrain"
[22:48] <daftykins> RudeViper: nope, only chipsets matter in Linux land really
[22:48] <AcidRain2012> how to fix?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> nnin: I am not encrpted, so can not test result .. maybe : sudo dmsetup status ; will give us a way forward.
[22:49] <rdk87> daftykins, besides, oftentimes channel is a good place to ask for things as grub which inexperienced people can easily make mistakes with
[22:49] <rdk87> when they try to do it by themselves
[22:49] <daftykins> rdk87: that's a good justification for not learning. anyway, so you have some old kernels listed huh?
[22:51] <rdk87> daftykins, from your point of view this channels should have been redundant, which thankfully isnt. and yes, I have old kernels listed, as I mentioned twice before
[22:52] <daftykins> rdk87: dpkg -l | grep linux
[22:52] <daftykins> rdk87: then remove the older packages.
[22:52] <AcidRain2012> im going to make a pastebin of my question so someone may later help me when they have time.
[22:52] <rdk87> gosh..I think I'll come back later..
[22:53] <daftykins> ...
[22:53] <daftykins> if you have a problem with my assistance then i'll gladly leave you to it.
[22:55] <nnin> Bashing-om I think is better to explain explicitly what I need this for, so that you would be able to be more precise I want to list all the disk drives and their partitions and query details about them, in java application. The ls by-uuid gives me all the partitions in the system, but then I wan to know  which  partitions are in which physical device (i.e. /dev/sda), that's why I am asking to get the physical drive name and not  /dev/sd
[22:55] <daftykins> well, you can't please all of the people all of the time i suppose.
[22:55] <RudeViper> nope - you sure can't
[22:56] <sudormrf> I can ;P
[22:56] <daftykins> RudeViper: i googled for ubuntu and your si3512 and only got posts from years ago
[22:56] <daftykins> as in, 2008 O_O
[22:56] <AcidRain2012> http://pastebin.com/JT5wEB3q please help when someone has a chance
[22:56] <RudeViper> yeah - thats what I have been running into
[22:57] <RudeViper> but it is all I have at the moment - and being disabled with no income I can't exactly go out and spen $140 bucks plus for a card....just can't so I gotta deal with what I have. Plus being older I can use it to learn with
[22:58] <AcidRain2012> RudeViper: what tyhpe of "card"?
[22:59] <RudeViper> It's a silicon image 3512-2 satalink sata controller
[22:59] <daftykins> RudeViper: you're 100% that sudo fdisk -l -or- sudo parted -l show nothing?
[23:00] <RudeViper> haven't tried those - but everything else shows it
[23:00] <AcidRain2012> RudeViper: oh sry. i dont have any of those.
[23:00] <daftykins> i'm talking about showing disks attached here, not the card
[23:01] <AcidRain2012> http://pastebin.com/JT5wEB3q please help when someone has a chance
[23:01] <AcidRain2012> oops sry
[23:01] <daftykins> please don't repeat so often.
[23:01] <AcidRain2012> sry :o
[23:01] <RudeViper> rebooting daftykins
[23:02] <daftykins> err, why? this a dualboot on the same system or something?
[23:04] <RudeViper> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/10544590 first command
[23:05] <daftykins> well i guess the card attached disks are none of those, then?
[23:05] <RudeViper> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/10544596
[23:05] <RudeViper> daftykins nope
[23:05] <daftykins> yeah, i'm out of ideas then i'm afraid
[23:06] <daftykins> which ubuntu is this again?
[23:06] <RudeViper> daftykins the 160gb is on the jmicron card and the other two are on the motherboard - server 14.04.2 with xfce4 running
[23:06] <daftykins> hmm
[23:07] <RudeViper> I'm just wondering if maybe there is a jumper setting I need to change - or something I need to "run" on it -
[23:07] <RudeViper> I mean - hardware wise - I know the card works
[23:07] <AcidRain2012> RudeViper: just saying, i would suggest quassel for windows. idk anyone who likes mirc. :)
[23:07] <RudeViper> let me move some drives around and see if they show up
[23:08] <RudeViper> I like mirc in fact using it
[23:08] <AcidRain2012> yeah. your /version told me
[23:09] <daftykins> AcidRain2012: off topic, bit rude to version someone too.
[23:09] <RudeViper> ok rebooting with one of the two missing drives plugged into the jmicron card
[23:10] <RudeViper> I'm on windows so really don't care - lol
[23:10] <AcidRain2012> daftykins: sry, i found it directly related to your question about what version of ubuntu he was using
[23:11] <daftykins> no it doesn't
[23:11] <daftykins> not even vaguely :)
[23:11] <AcidRain2012> well i was expecting a ubuntu version reply. but mirc doesnt give that info :P
[23:12] <daftykins> no, no IRC client gives OS info
[23:12] <RudeViper> yep they show on jmicron card  - so it is the sata card that is the issue - either the card is bad or I have to set something up
[23:12] <daftykins> pretty sure it's the driver, as you said Windows shows the disks fine
[23:13] <daftykins> anyway just going in circles now.
[23:13] <RudeViper> yep
[23:14] <basco55> hey world
[23:26] <tnkhanh> hi how do I switch between Qt versions
[23:26] <tnkhanh> one from package manager and one is not
[23:30] <RudeViper> daftykins - ROFLMAO - just for grins I unplugged them from the internal connections and hooked them up to the external connections - and on boot they showed up - rebooting now to see if they show now
[23:32] <grannytrashface> Hi, is there in existence a lockscreen program that will prevent logging in between certain times?
[23:32] <RudeViper> daftykins - yep it works - they are showing up - the internal connections are not working - lol
[23:33] <emash> guys, how to skip efi shell on startup
[23:33] <grannytrashface> (Or some ideal way to accomplish the same thing?)
[23:34] <Anf> Guten Abend, ich wollte mal fragen, wie man in den Lesezeichen von Firefox die standart Ordner löschen kann, die von Firefox angelegt wurden sind? Bei mir sind in den Lesezeichen von Firefox drei Ordner mit den Namen: Lesezeichen Symbollleiste und Lesezeichen Menü, wie kann man diese standart Ordner von Firefox löschen oder entfernen?
[23:34] <daftykins> Anf: english only, sorry. #ubuntu-de for German
[23:34] <Anf> Upps, sorry wrong Server :)
[23:35] <grannytrashface> Anf: Ctrl+Shift+O will show the bookmark manager, at least for me
[23:36] <buddd> how do i get out of a terminal spamming y's
[23:38] <RudeViper> daftykins - wow the exact oppisite of the problems I kept seeing in the forums - the external didn't work for them but the internal connections did...lol - gonna be fun for mounting but oh well - they work now.
[23:38] <daftykins> mmhmm
[23:40] <RudeViper> daftykins - now here is the next question - I see in gparted where you can convert fat to ntfs - question is will that delete the data? The 1TB drive needs to be converted but it is loaded with data.
[23:40] <mgolisch> id make a backup
[23:41] <daftykins> why would you make it NTFS?
[23:41] <RudeViper> it's set up as fat16
[23:41] <daftykins> no, 32
[23:41] <sudormrf> why not exFat?
[23:42] <daftykins> presumably RudeViper was unaware of exFAT
[23:42] <RudeViper> it's going to be a file server - needs to be readable
[23:42] <sudormrf> I know that you can go fat to ntfs without losing data, at least in windows.
[23:42] <sudormrf> um? and?
[23:42] <sudormrf> sorry
[23:42]  * daftykins points sudormrf at the channel name
[23:42] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[23:42] <RudeViper> lol
[23:42] <sudormrf> once it becomes a network share it the clients don't care about the format the disk is on the server
[23:42] <sudormrf> heh
[23:43] <daftykins> i would not file share on a Linux host from a non-Linux file system, put it that way
[23:43] <iggymydog> is there some way i can install additional drivers to my pendrive from windows  to  use for my ubuntu 14.04
[23:43] <sudormrf> daftykins, point there being if windows can do it, surely linux can
[23:43] <daftykins> nope
[23:43] <leaf1> You could edit the iso in a VM?
[23:43] <sudormrf> RudeViper, http://askubuntu.com/questions/303091/convert-fat32-partition-to-ntfs-without-data-loss
[23:43] <sudormrf> well there you go
[23:44] <iggymydog> daftykins: nope?
[23:44] <daftykins> iggymydog: wasn't at you, sorry.
[23:44] <mgolisch> you dont plan to share a ntfs disk do you?
[23:44] <mgolisch> the performance will be horrible
[23:44] <tre_> RudeViper: also https://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted  ... but note that you should never do anything like this without back-ups for your back-ups :D
[23:44] <RudeViper> guess that wouldn't be a good idea then
[23:44] <iggymydog> daftykins: oh phew lol
[23:45] <sudormrf> agree with what daftykins said.  why do you want to use NTFS? if the host is a linux host, why not ext234?
[23:45] <daftykins> iggymydog: are you still working on that? haven't you made it persistent yet?
[23:45] <iggymydog> daftykins: im in the army i never give up lol
[23:46] <sudormrf> iggymydog, false equivalency
[23:46] <iggymydog> daftykins: the internet wont hel me any and ive tried google
[23:46] <daftykins> iggymydog: just i've watched a fair few TV episodes since you first mentioned it... ;)
[23:46] <leaf1> iggymydog: With persistence or drivers?
[23:46] <daftykins> how about that link i gave you hours ago?
[23:46] <iggymydog> everyone i just need help
[23:46] <sudormrf> iggymydog, this isn't that kind of channel
[23:47] <sudormrf> might I recommend a local therapist?
[23:47] <sudormrf> ;P
[23:47] <daftykins> iggymydog: right, what OS did you make the flash drive from?
[23:47] <daftykins> sudormrf: you've been in here like a year and still you're timewasting? grow up please
[23:47] <mikeliss> So I'm typing this on my phone because an upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 has gone terribly awry and my system only boots to terminal now.
[23:47] <sudormrf> iggymydog, http://tuxtweaks.com/2014/03/create-linux-mint-persistent-live-usb/
[23:47] <iggymydog> daftykins: i made the oen drive from windws 8
[23:48] <daftykins> iggymydog: ok so re-do it enabling persistence with UUI from pendrivelinux.com
[23:48] <daftykins> then you can install drivers.
[23:48] <mikeliss> Anybody have ideas for recovery from the terminal?
[23:48] <daftykins> mikeliss: so you've got some kind of frankenputer stuck between versions?
[23:48] <sudormrf> iggymydog, http://www.linuxliveusb.com/help/faq/persistence
[23:49] <mikeliss> Current situation is that Ubuntu-desktop is not installed somehow, do i tried apt getting that. Result is that multiarch support is unpacked but has not been configured.
[23:49] <iggymydog> daftykins: that wont work TRUST ME lol that being said my ubuntu once worked how ever i had to enable additional drivers now it wont work
[23:50] <mikeliss> Daftykins: yep
[23:50] <daftykins> iggymydog: so you've actually tried?
[23:50] <dreki> What is the best way to quickly and easily transfer a few files from my computer running ubuntu (14.04) to my friend's running windows 8? I cannot use Samba on this university network.
[23:50] <daftykins> mikeliss: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" ?
[23:50] <sudormrf> dreki, bluetooth?
[23:50] <daftykins> err wait that doesn't seem right
[23:51] <sudormrf> dreki, btsync, dropbox, google drive, box, etc.
[23:51] <SchrodingersScat> dreki: sftp on your side, and then whatever windows people use on his side? filezilla could sftp last time I had to check.
[23:51] <treelzebub> dreki: set up an ftp server on one machine, ftp to it from the other?
[23:51] <daftykins> dreki: something wrong with SSH?
[23:51] <simon> hi. I'm trying to dual boot with legacy. I finally installed Win7 on the first 100G partition. now that I insert my Ubuntu LiveUSB, the partition tool does not recognize the partition table and sees only "/dev/sda" being the full 256G.
[23:51] <acz32> how does ubuntu compare to debian with respect to security?
[23:52] <daftykins> well, WinSCP technically
[23:52] <simon> acz32, yes.
[23:52] <daftykins> simon: sounds like you booted ubuntu EFI
[23:52] <acz32> simon: ?
[23:52] <iggymydog> daftykins: correct! ummm yeah i made a bootable usb drive and always clicked "try ubuntu" then id click additional drivers to get the internet on...any how after installing ubuntu to the messed up hard drive multaple times the hard drive suddenely works and the internet doesent .....
[23:52] <dreki> sudormrf: treelzebub: They are very large files. I thought of setting up a temp FTP server but that seems more complicated than it needs to be for a quick transfer.
[23:52] <simon> daftykins, it does sound like that! how do I avoid that?
[23:52] <sudormrf> dreki, btsync
[23:53] <acz32> simon: yes what?
[23:53] <daftykins> simon: use your system's one-time boot menu to pick the legacy flash drive entry instead of the EFI one
[23:53] <sudormrf> dreki, https://www.btsync.com/en/
[23:53] <treelzebub> dreki: very large files means quick transfer?
[23:53] <sudormrf> treelzebub, sounds like "quick transfer" means "one time thing"
[23:54] <sudormrf> btsync is quick to setup, easy and would transfer the files rather quickly
[23:54] <dreki> treelzebub: sudormrf: yeah
[23:54] <treelzebub> ah. well if an ftp tunnel sounds like too much work, i'm not sure what to advise ;)
[23:54] <dreki> one time thing
[23:54] <simon> acz32, yes, ubuntu compares to debian with respect to security. you asked a yes/no question, so I responded. :)
[23:54] <sudormrf> dreki, btsync
[23:54] <sudormrf> or create a torrent
[23:54] <acz32> simon: no i did not ask a yes or no question
[23:54] <sudormrf> if you don't want to install btsync
[23:54] <sudormrf> that is my suggestion
[23:54] <daftykins> sudormrf: terrible idea from on a uni network as was mentioned
[23:55] <daftykins> also btsync has privacy complications imo
[23:55] <treelzebub> +1 sudormrf
[23:55] <simon> acz32, did you not?
[23:55] <sudormrf> daftykins, why is it terrible?
[23:55] <iggymydog> daftykins: any ideas
[23:55] <acz32> simon: read the first word of my question
[23:55] <daftykins> because p2p doesn't belong on a uni network
[23:55] <sudormrf> daftykins, and yet people do it all the time
[23:55] <daftykins> ah i see, people do something so that makes it right
[23:55]  * treelzebub sits down :P
[23:55] <sudormrf> daftykins, so what is your suggestion?
[23:56] <daftykins> what i said already, SCP/SFTP
[23:56] <mikeliss> Daftykins: dpkg-reconfigure doesn't have a -a flag. Aptitude is showing lots of issues though, so I'm attempting to have it fix them.
[23:56] <iggymydog> daftykins...o? lol
[23:56] <sudormrf> seems overly complex for him to setup given the one-off nature of this
[23:56] <daftykins> overly complex? sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:57] <daftykins> _done_
[23:57] <sudormrf> and then
[23:57] <sudormrf> lol
[23:57] <daftykins> look i know you're trying to help, but when you help in here all you do is throw google results at people and don't know the topics at hand
[23:57] <sudormrf> there is more than one way to skin a cat
[23:57] <daftykins> oy vey
[23:57] <dreki> daftykins: sudormrf treelzebub I can't don anything torrent related on this network without VPN and that would slow down the transfer. I guess I am stuck with setting up an FTP server. Whats the quickest way to do that that I can take down the server afterwortd.
[23:58] <iggymydog> daftykins: hello
[23:58] <treelzebub> sorry for my part, dafty.
[23:58] <daftykins> dreki: what's wrong with enabling SSH, walking to your friends computer, installing WinSCP, logging in - grabbing the files?
[23:59] <dreki> daftykins: I guess I just don't know how to do that.
[23:59] <dreki> the "enable ssh" part
[23:59] <daftykins> dreki: can your friend ping your IP on the Uni LAN?
[23:59] <daftykins> dreki: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:59] <daftykins> write down your IP, go to your friends, download WinSCP, enter the IP and use port 22
[23:59] <simon> acz32, I'm sorry. well, besides the differences in su/sudo usage, and debian allowing for some more fine-grained selection of repositories, you could supposedly tweak both systems in the same ways. but debian comes a little bit more locked down (in terms of not having a lot of software installed from the start).
[23:59] <daftykins> login, done.


[14:17]  * mterry hugs tsdgeos
[14:18] <tsdgeos> :)
[14:19] <tsdgeos> you have to land it before Sawicz comes back from the holidays ^_^
[14:50] <mterry> heh
[15:35] <mterry> dednick: which silo are you working on?
[15:35] <dednick> mterry: i've just put all the menu stuff in 2291
[15:36] <mterry> dednick: is that like a mega silo situation or just your stuff silo?  (i've got a branch I want to stick in the next silo, but I hadn't thought we'd got one yet)
[15:36] <dednick> mterry: that's just my stuff at the moment.
[15:36] <mterry> k
[15:36] <dednick> should probably see if there is a current "next realease" one though.
[15:36] <mterry> Maybe I'll start the silo for landing after 2150 and 2160
[15:36] <mterry> We've got quite a queue already
[15:37] <dednick> mterry: well the menu work needs to land so...
[15:37] <dednick> if you want to add to it.
[15:38] <mterry> dednick: I didn't want to junk up your testing silo, but I could if ya wanna use it for that
[15:39] <dednick> mterry: it's not really a testing silo. i intend that to be the landing on for menus.
[15:39] <mterry> ok
[15:41] <mterry> dednick: ok added mine
[15:43] <ltinkl> mterry, I believe the miral silo is slated to be the next one
[15:43] <ltinkl> mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160
[15:44] <mterry> ltinkl: it is, I mentioned 2160 above, but I'm trying to plan the NEXT next one  :P
[15:44] <ltinkl> mterry, ah :)
[18:49] <mterry> greyback, dandrader: fyi I published silo 2150 a little while ago; when it lands you'll want to rebase your miral branches on trunk and we can rebuild 2160 for landing
[18:49] <dandrader> mterry, already did
[18:49] <dandrader> mterry, just didn't hit the "build" yet as 2150 still hasn't really landed
[18:50]  * dandrader anxious to get 2160 in
[18:51] <mterry> :)