[05:25] <barrydk> Good morning everyone
[05:40] <Kilos> greetings peeps
[05:58] <Kilos> yo Superhuman
[06:26] <superfly> morning
[06:27] <Kilos> morning superfly
[06:28] <Kilos> i hope 8.30 suits you better for meets
[06:37] <Kilos> hi psychicist
[06:51] <theblazehen> hi all
[07:09] <Vince-0> Haai!
[07:09] <theblazehen> hi Vince-0
[07:09] <Vince-0> 37 total yoh
[07:09] <Vince-0> surp
[07:09] <theblazehen> yeah
[07:09] <Kilos> hi theblazehen Vince-0
[07:09] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[07:10] <Kilos> Vince-0, your mailing list is a data hog
[07:10] <Vince-0> it is?
[07:11] <Kilos> dont you peeps send/receive mails the normal way?
[07:11] <Vince-0> I don't notice - also don't use the groups page
[07:11] <Vince-0> Email summary/digest to my Inbox and I reply there
[07:11] <Kilos> just login in and looking at first pages maile uses 3 meg
[07:12] <inetpro> good morning
[07:12] <Kilos> morning inetpro
[07:13] <Vince-0> Kilos, you should have digest/summary on to get it to your inbox rather than visiting the groups page
[07:13] <Kilos> do i do that online there?
[07:15] <Kilos> i use thunderbird with pop so i see all my mails here in my inbox
[07:15] <Kilos> all list mails that is
[07:16] <Kilos> hehe theblazehen have you started reading the LPI manual yet?
[07:16] <Kilos> massive book
[07:16] <Vince-0> yep, those two exams are not small
[07:16] <Vince-0> took me about 2 months part time to summarize notes on just the first exam
[07:17] <Kilos> will take the rest of my life i think
[07:18] <theblazehen> not yet Kilos
[07:18] <Kilos> im only by irq's now
[07:18] <Kilos> but they auto im sure
[07:19] <Vince-0> Kilos, I see domdoner and kilosblunt
[07:19] <Kilos> ya they both me
[07:19] <theblazehen> trying out i3
[07:20] <Kilos> domdonner was last year and blunt was when i tried to get there last week or so
[07:20] <Kilos> i3?
[07:21] <Kilos> dual core pc
[07:21] <theblazehen> Kilos, nah, the window manager
[07:21] <Vince-0> Kilos, so you've got no Email option set for either of those accounts. Would you like me to remove one and update for Email to abriged/digest/all emails ?
[07:21] <Kilos> ah
[07:21] <theblazehen> i3wm.org
[07:21] <theblazehen> uses vi keys
[07:21] <Kilos> yes please to domdonner
[07:24] <Vince-0> ok do you want all mails or the digest?
[07:24] <Kilos> i dunno whats the diffs
[07:25] <Kilos> all mails from now on i think
[07:25] <Vince-0> digest is once a day, all mails are immediate
[07:25] <Kilos> ya immediate
[07:26] <Vince-0> done! domdonner lol
[07:26] <Kilos> hehe ty very much
[07:26] <Kilos> now i can turn off the blunt one here
[07:28] <Kilos> im with pcs like you would most likely be if someone gave you a stripped automatic gearbox and said sort it
[07:31] <Vince-0> automatic yar
[07:31] <Kilos> now you can mail your list an advertise the "coming soon " LPI classes on #linux-studies
[07:31] <Vince-0> who uses those
[07:31] <Kilos> peeps that are too lazy to change gears
[07:31] <Vince-0> grannies
[07:31] <Kilos> and some women find it easier
[07:32] <Kilos> hehe i think the pros car is auto
[07:32] <Kilos> rofl
[07:32] <Kilos> grandpas
[07:32] <Vince-0> theblazehen, here is the book I'm using 'cos it's up to date for the recent revision for LPI1 http://www.amazon.com/CompTIA-Linux-Study-Guide-LX0-101/dp/1118531744
[07:32] <theblazehen> ty Vince-0
[07:33] <Kilos> isnt amazon stuff to buy?
[07:33] <Vince-0> Its a good place to start but it won't include absolutely everything in the exam. The layout doesn't exactly follow the LPI objectives in order
[07:33] <Vince-0> yep
[07:34] <Vince-0> you could start with the exam objectives on the lpi.org site and work from there using as much material you can find
[07:34] <theblazehen> ty Vince-0
[07:34] <Kilos> isnt the book the monkey gave us up to date
[07:34] <Kilos> it wgets lekker and free
[07:36] <Vince-0> ya but it is a bit old for the newest revision, let me check the dates
[07:36] <Kilos> all the foss and floss then you go buy a book
[07:36] <Vince-0> ya to win the exam easier
[07:36] <Kilos> hehe
[07:38] <Vince-0> it is a hell of a task creating your own notes to match the objectives
[07:38] <Kilos> yeah
[07:39] <Kilos> but best way to remember stuff
[07:39] <Kilos> writing down that is. not here on pc
[07:39] <Vince-0> here's the addendum notes on the lpi wiki: http://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-1
[07:40] <Kilos> can i wget them or must i first go page to page
[07:40] <Vince-0> looks like the latest revision published April 2009
[07:41] <Vince-0> that's a wiki page, dunno if a wget will give you a usable page
[07:41] <Kilos> ah
[07:44] <Vince-0> I tried some of the practice exams linked on the lpi.org site - they're not that easy
[07:45] <Vince-0> some tricky multiple choice and "type the command" questions
[07:49] <nocware> morning!!
[07:49] <Kilos> yo nocware
[07:50] <Kilos> ai!
[07:50] <nocware> Been a while.
[07:50] <Kilos> yeah where you been
[07:51] <nocware> Jst had sme biz that kept me off.
[07:52] <Kilos> and fingers got tired
[07:52] <Kilos> all the shorthand
[07:53] <nocware> A bit.
[07:53] <Kilos> hehe
[07:56] <nocware> btw anyone know how to solve some error i keep getting about hd0 out of disk and then grub rescue loading??
[07:57] <nocware> already tried re-installing grub.
[07:57] <nocware> Didnt work
[07:57] <Kilos> grub-pc
[07:57] <Kilos> you using 13.04
[07:57] <nocware> 12.04
[07:58] <Kilos> ah thats easy then
[07:58] <nocware> ReallY?
[07:58] <nocware> hw
[07:58] <Kilos> Maaz, google boot-repair for 12.04
[07:58] <Maaz> Kilos: "How to Repair GRUB2 When Ubuntu Won't Boot" http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/ :: "Boot-Repair - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "Restore/Reinstall/Repair Grub on Ubuntu 13.04 / 12.10 / 12.04 from ..." http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-
[07:58] <Maaz> ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/ :: "installation - Cannot install Ubuntu 12.04 After Windows Insta…
[07:58] <Kilos> use the top link
[07:59] <Kilos> boot-repair fixes those probs if its not your drive crashing
[08:01] <nocware> hvent tried boot repair.But i did use the terminal method n i still get those errors.
[08:01] <Kilos> boot-repair is a great tool
[08:01] <Kilos> fixes anything fixable
[08:02] <Kilos> and if its probs in the boot sector the are other ugly tricks to keep drive going
[08:03] <Kilos> you using 12.04 only or with win as well nocware ?
[08:03] <nocware> Only Ubuntu 12.04
[08:03] <nocware> no win
[08:04] <Kilos> then go with boot repair
[08:04] <Kilos> it even fixes dual boots
[08:05] <Kilos> and can be run from a live cd as well
[08:06] <nocware> My laptop boots, jst after rebooting a couple of times..
[08:06] <Kilos> if you cant get past the grub prompt and use ctrl+alt+F@
[08:06] <Kilos> boot-repair will fix it im sure
[08:06] <Kilos> also what email client are you using?
[08:07] <nocware> l'll try it.
[08:07] <Kilos> its not big
[08:07] <nocware> i dont use any e-mail clients...
[08:08] <Kilos> if you add the repo as that link explains then run it probs are gone
[08:08] <Kilos> ok. i had evo probs
[08:18] <Kilos> hi barrydk
[08:38] <barrydk> Hi Kilos  I greeted early this morning already
[08:39] <Kilos> oh sorry, head full of learning
[08:39] <Kilos> no place for memory
[08:40] <barrydk> Thats good no problem, just dont want you guys to think im not greeting.
[08:40] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:43] <Vince-0> its IRC, can't take offense over manners in text communications
[08:43] <Kilos> hehe
[08:44] <Kilos> i thought they had dropped lilo
[08:44] <Vince-0> from LPI?
[08:44] <Kilos> yeah
[08:44] <Vince-0> I think there aren't specific config questions about it but just that you know it exists and its limitations
[08:45] <Kilos> sure i read something about that last year
[09:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:46] <barrydk> Time to go enjoy the evening everyone
[13:14] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[13:15] <Cantide> hello '<
[13:36] <Cantide> i ran into some bad luck :/
[13:36] <Cantide> while on my mission to conquer Korea today, i managed to seize the car's engine T-T
[13:36] <Cantide> so much for going to RMS next week :/
[13:55] <Kilos> ouch
[13:59] <Cantide> yeah T-T
[13:59] <Cantide> the good news is that i received my contract, had it printed, signed it, and sent it with all my other documents via DHL to Korea
[13:59] <Cantide> so by the end of the week, my VISA should be on its way :)
[14:00] <Cantide> "Join us in 10mins at 2pm UTC for the opening Ubuntu Developer Summit session, including a keynote from Mark Shuttleworth - watch the video stream live at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21887/intro-and-keynote/"
[14:05] <Squirm> #ubuntu-uds-plenary
[14:06] <Cantide> yeah
[14:06] <Cantide> i am there :)
[15:01] <theblazehen> hi guys, maaz coffee on
[15:01] <theblazehen> Maaz coffee on
[15:01]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:02] <theblazehen> Maaz http error 418
[15:02] <Maaz> theblazehen: Excuse me?
[15:02] <theblazehen> Maaz google http error 418
[15:02] <Maaz> theblazehen: "List of HTTP status codes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes :: "Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol - Wikipedia, the free ..."  http://www.quora.com/What-
[15:02] <Maaz> is-the-story-behind-HTTP-status-code-418-Im-a-Teapot :: "Stack Overflow returning HTTP err…
[15:05] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for theblazehen!
[15:06] <theblazehen> t yMaaz
[15:06] <theblazehen> ty Maaz
[15:11] <theblazehen> hello theblazesbot
[15:16] <theblazehen> wb theblazesbot
[15:28] <theblazehen> hi nocware
[15:28] <kbmonkey> hello
[15:28] <nocware> yeh theblazehen#
[15:29] <nocware> kbmonkey
[15:35] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey
[15:36] <Kilos> Maaz, seen magespawn
[15:36] <Maaz> Kilos: magespawn was last seen 18 hours, 55 minutes and 40 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-08-26 22:40:42 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-08-23 14:52:55 SAST
[15:36] <theblazesbot> i've gone
[15:36] <nocware> So, Kilos when  i created a separate partition  for home the problem seems to have disappeared.
[15:37] <Kilos> whew
[15:37] <Kilos> did you make seperate partitions to start with?
[15:37] <theblazesbot> run
[15:37] <nocware> Nope. jst did it 2de...
[15:38] <Cantide> 2de == today ?
[15:38] <Kilos> i always make at least 3. root boot and home and on large drives i add a storage partition at the end
[15:38] <nocware> Today.
[15:38] <nocware> Yes.
[15:38] <theblazesbot> run
[15:39] <nocware> @Cantide
[15:39] <Kilos> we dont use @ on irc
[15:39] <nocware> Im not so sure abt making one for boot...i'll leave it as is.
[15:40] <Cantide> i don't mine the @thing :)
[15:40] <Cantide> yeah, i think just a separate home partition is enough
[15:40] <Kilos> when you install you make them but you can make just root and home
[15:40] <Cantide> i will do that for my next install i think
[15:41] <Kilos> the advantage of having a home part is that with a reinstall you dont lose all your setting and stuff because you install but dont format /home
[15:47] <kbmonkey> Im back tonight Kilos
[15:47] <Kilos> i see so
[15:48] <Kilos> im trying to install centos on other pc to use for the class
[15:48] <kbmonkey> hey did we not use @name before in irc days of yore? lol
[15:49] <kbmonkey> nocware, a boot partition is not required. it is used more for server installs or special occasions
[15:49] <Kilos> its twitter peeps that have that habit
[15:50] <kbmonkey> no, @ was used waay before anyof social networks existed man
[15:50] <kbmonkey> in roguelike games, your avatar is the @ symbol. since then it signals a player or user
[15:51] <Cantide> Kilos, that also introduces problems when old, bad settings are kept when you want a fresh install - especially when changing versions
[15:51] <Cantide> or ChanServ >_>
[15:51] <theblazesbot> /msg nickserv
[15:51] <Cantide> ops '-'
[15:51] <theblazesbot> oh okay
[15:52] <Kilos> ya if there are bad setting or some corruption  but it can save lotsa hard work if your /home wasnt corrupt
[15:52] <Cantide> true that
[15:52] <kbmonkey> which CentOS do you have Kilos ? I have 5.6
[15:52] <kbmonkey> I remember that 6 came out...
[15:52] <Kilos> 5
[15:52] <Cantide> i only really reinstall though if my installation is broken or if i'm changing versions, in which case keeping my /home is a bad idea
[15:52] <theblazesbot> someone please link the octothrope thing
[15:52] <Kilos> and old one from nuvo
[15:53] <theblazesbot> run
[15:53] <kbmonkey> ja then we have the same Kilos
[15:53] <Kilos> but it be stupid
[15:53] <kbmonkey> how so?
[15:53] <Kilos> only got a 6g drive in but it wants to install on hdc
[15:53] <Kilos> then says its too small
[15:54] <Kilos> should be hda if anything
[15:54] <kbmonkey> oh. can one choose features and smallify the install?
[15:54] <kbmonkey> you have two drives in there?
[15:55] <Kilos> yo grant
[15:55] <Kilos> ai!
[15:55] <Kilos> the thing wants to install to eth0
[15:56] <Cantide> that's your network interface
[15:56] <Kilos> nope only the 6g but it must be seing the eth to router
[15:56] <kbmonkey> eh?
[15:57] <kbmonkey> how about changing it Kilos
[15:57] <Kilos> and that means it dont even see the 6g with xp on
[15:57] <kbmonkey> I'm booting it in kvm now
[15:58] <kbmonkey> hang on.. need to get this support request for my web host done.. damn thing does not see rsync
[15:58] <Kilos> right im in a kinda parted tool
[15:58] <Kilos> ill sort it kbmonkey you do your stuff ty
[15:58] <kbmonkey> watch me multitask man ;)
[16:01] <Kilos> whats a lvm group
[16:01] <Kilos> whew
[16:01] <Kilos> better to format drive with gparted then start and install
[16:02] <kbmonkey> logical volume management
[16:02] <Kilos> and they aint even got ext4 yet
[16:03] <kbmonkey> it allows you to pool your drives together, so they become one large space
[16:03] <kbmonkey> among other things
[16:03] <kbmonkey> it is how servers can add more disk space without needing reinstallation
[16:05] <Cantide> oh, cool :)
[16:05] <Cantide> that is logical xD
[16:05] <Vince-0> surpdurp
[16:05] <Cantide> hey Vince-0
[16:05] <Vince-0> RMS is in Joburg
[16:05] <Cantide> Vince-0, I may need to cancel my RMS booking T-T
[16:06] <Vince-0> oh that's OK
[16:06] <Vince-0> There will be an update this week
[16:06] <Cantide> my dad's car died today
[16:06] <Cantide> so i don't think i'll be able to get there
[16:06] <Vince-0> ow, I'll pick you up on the day
[16:06] <Cantide> hmm
[16:06] <Cantide> if it's not a problem, that would be cool
[16:07] <Kilos> you seized your dads car
[16:07] <Kilos> whew
[16:07] <Cantide> lol
[16:07] <Cantide> yup :D
[16:07] <Cantide> Cantide -1 T-T
[16:07] <Vince-0> sure, email me closer to the time and we can arrange it
[16:08] <grantw> hi everyone
[16:08] <kbmonkey> :]
[16:08] <Cantide> k, i'll catch you on here sometime :p
[16:08] <Kilos> oh my this centos gives the choice of gnome kde server and i dunno what more
[16:08] <Cantide> hi grantw '<
[16:08] <Vince-0> centos with x? noooo
[16:08] <Kilos> hows things grantw
[16:08] <Kilos> you been scarce
[16:09] <grantw> going OK, been sick for 4days
[16:09] <Cantide> Kilos, have no DE and just use the terminal :)
[16:09] <Kilos> no man
[16:09] <Cantide> 'O'
[16:09] <Kilos> i dont want a server
[16:09] <Kilos> i wanna see wassup
[16:09] <Cantide> then what are you using it for?
[16:09] <Kilos> for the LPI classes
[16:09] <Vince-0> I use webmin for a gui
[16:10] <Kilos> thats what they use
[16:10] <Cantide> why not use Ubuntu?
[16:10] <Cantide> ah..
[16:10] <Vince-0> wait for rpm vs deb package management
[16:10] <Cantide> Vince-0, yeah, i had a centos server with cpanel on it >.<
[16:10] <Cantide> and enjoy yum, Kilos :)
[16:10] <kbmonkey> yum!
[16:10] <Cantide> hehe
[16:10] <Kilos> ai!
[16:10] <Vince-0> 6.4 Centos?
[16:10] <kbmonkey> 5
[16:10] <Kilos> thats redhat?
[16:11] <Cantide> it is redhat
[16:11] <Cantide> rebranded
[16:11] <Cantide> and free
[16:11] <Cantide> and without support
[16:11] <Kilos> why isnt LPI in debian
[16:11] <Cantide> or something like that
[16:11]  * Kilos cries
[16:11] <Cantide> lol
[16:11] <Vince-0> its distro agnostic
[16:11] <kbmonkey> what? really? I thought Fedora is RedHat unbranded
[16:12] <kbmonkey> Kilos, did it see your drive yet?
[16:12] <Cantide> "CentOS ("Community Enterprise Operating System") is a Linux distribution which attempts to provide a free enterprise class computing platform which has 100% binary compatibility with its upstream source, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)"
[16:12] <Vince-0> Fedora is more the testing ground for cutting edge repos + kernels
[16:12] <Vince-0> I tend to stick 1 version behind latest on Fedora
[16:13] <kbmonkey> ah great thanks Cantide
[16:13] <Cantide> i just pulled that from wikipedia :p
[16:13] <Vince-0> Maaz: what is Centos
[16:13] <Maaz> Vince-0: I'm afraid I have no idea
[16:13] <Cantide> lol
[16:13] <Vince-0> Maaz: wikipedia Centos
[16:13] <Maaz> Vince-0: What?
[16:13] <Cantide> Maaz, coffee please
[16:13] <Maaz> Cantide: There isn't a pot on
[16:13] <Cantide> Maaz, coffee on
[16:13]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[16:13] <Vince-0> Maaz: google Centos
[16:13] <Maaz> Vince-0: "www.centos.org - The Community ENTerprise Operating System" http://www.centos.org/ :: "www.centos.org - centos.org content" http://www.centos.org/mirrors :: "CentOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS :: "DistroWatch.com: CentOS" http://distrowatch.com/centos :: "6 Things You Should Know About CentOS Linux - rackAID"
[16:13] <Maaz> http://www.rackaid.com/resources/things-to-know-about-centos-linux/ :: "Karanbir Singh (Cen…
[16:14] <Kilos> ya its installing kbmonkey
[16:14] <kbmonkey> Maaz, where are the rusks?
[16:14] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Erk, dunno
[16:14] <Cantide> 'O'
[16:14] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[16:14] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[16:14] <Vince-0> Maas, can I get hard liquor instead
[16:14] <Vince-0> Maaz, can I get hard liquor instead
[16:14] <Maaz> Vince-0: What?
[16:14] <Vince-0> maas lol
[16:15] <Kilos> he used to say he wont help corrupt the younguns
[16:17] <Vince-0> Maaz: I'm over 18 years old, promise
[16:17] <Maaz> Vince-0: *blink*
[16:17] <Kilos> hehe
[16:17] <Cantide> i see <blink> is being removed from html
[16:17] <Cantide> about blinking time  :D
[16:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Cantide!
[16:17] <Cantide> yaay!
[16:18] <Cantide> thanks, Maaz
[16:18] <Maaz> Cantide: Sure
[16:25] <Kilos> kbmonkey, im not gonna have to update/upgrade to practise on it am i?
[16:26] <kbmonkey> no, I doubt that Kilos
[16:27] <Kilos> yay
[16:27] <kbmonkey> in fact,youre probably gonna reinstall it a few times to try out the other options ;)
[16:27] <kbmonkey> like lvm
[16:27] <Kilos> lol
[16:27] <kbmonkey> only a 6GB drive in that machine?
[16:27] <Kilos> shame that poor 6g drive
[16:27] <kbmonkey> hope you dont run out of space
[16:28] <Kilos> yeah
[16:28] <kbmonkey> how did you get past the space limit?
[16:28] <Kilos> well plugged in anyway
[16:28] <Kilos> it didnt complain i just deleted everything i could in the partition tool
[16:29] <kbmonkey> ah
[16:29] <kbmonkey> using the DVD isos or live CD?
[16:30] <kbmonkey> man I feel too lazy to make dinner. guess it has to be done
[16:30] <Kilos> the dvd
[16:31] <kbmonkey> make dinner && sudo eat
[16:31] <Kilos> hehe
[16:33] <Kilos> it only used 2.3g of the drive
[16:34] <Cantide> i used "sudo_wrestler" as my real name on IRC :)
[16:34] <Cantide> i think sudo wrestlers eat a lot
[16:35] <Kilos> lol
[16:37] <Kilos> i dont like the blue screen too msish
[16:40] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:40] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[16:40] <inetpro> good evening
[16:41]  * inetpro seeing talk about everything but ubuntu?
[16:41] <inetpro> ai!
[16:41] <Kilos> well no ubuntu stuff is breaking
[16:42] <Kilos> and the lpi think is for the centos thing
[16:42] <inetpro> almost thought I was in the wrong channel
[16:42] <Kilos> lol
[16:43] <kbmonkey> off to make some dinner, be back later :]
[16:43] <Cantide> "...she calls up her favourite black ops field agent Kruger (Sharlto Copley, playing an Afrikaans cyborg ninja hobo, who is every bit as awesome as he sounds) to rain down death, destruction and the most nightmarish rendition of Jan Pierewiet the world has ever seen."
 I fixed it
[17:18] <nuvolari> my vodacom connection
[17:18] <nuvolari> I bought 8ta data
[17:18] <nuvolari> and... tada!
[17:18] <Kilos> yay
[17:18] <Kilos> whats tada
[17:19] <nuvolari> nee nooit oom Kilos!
[17:19] <nuvolari> hocus, pocus, tada!
[17:19] <Kilos> huh
[17:19] <nuvolari> :P
[17:19] <Kilos> lol
[17:19] <nuvolari> "en siedaar"
[17:20] <Kilos> ek gebruik daai centos van jou
[17:20] <Kilos> op ander pc
[17:22] <grantw> so I hear Richard Stallman is coming to za
[17:22] <Kilos> that like fixing a windows pc by installing ubuntu
[17:23] <Kilos> grantw, are you on our mailing list
[17:23] <Kilos> the okes been mailing info there about it
[17:24] <grantw> yes, I'm on the mail list
[17:26] <grantw> sounds interesting, who is going?
[17:27] <Kilos> where are you?
[17:27] <nuvolari> o/
[17:27] <grantw> cape town
[17:27] <nuvolari> Kilos: werk daai centos nog!? :P
[17:28] <Kilos> ek het nou nou instaleer seun
[17:28] <nuvolari> wag, dink dit was fedora, nie so nie?
[17:28] <Kilos> en t=die cd test gedoen en was goed
[17:28] <Kilos> centOS
[17:28] <Kilos> 5
[17:28] <Kilos> blou skerm ding
[17:28] <Kilos> met gnome
[17:28] <nuvolari> aah! ek onthou, ek't centos geinstall voordat hy my te veel issues gegee het
[17:29] <Kilos> hehe
[17:29] <nuvolari> :O blou skerm ding. dit was 'n lekker c'putertjie daai
[17:29] <Kilos> lyk soos vensters
[17:29] <Kilos> dis op die selle pc
[17:30] <nuvolari> ek jeuk, ek wil nie meer ubuntu hol nie
[17:30] <nuvolari> oh hi theblazehen
[17:30] <theblazehen> hi nuvolari
[17:30] <Kilos> ai!
[17:30] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[17:30] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[17:30] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[17:31] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:47] <kbmonkey> hallo nuvolari 0\
[17:59] <Kilos> hes gone to sleep
[17:59] <kbmonkey> he got the right idea
[17:59] <kbmonkey> zzz -.-
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[18:00] <Kilos> me too soon. got up to runlevels with a modicum of understanding
[18:00] <Kilos> will go through that tomorrow
[18:01] <Kilos> i think thats english
[18:06] <kbmonkey> lol
[18:06] <nuvolari> oh hi kbmonkey
[18:06] <kbmonkey> pretty tired tonight
[18:09] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you gotta advertise on the lists about classes
[18:09] <Kilos> then you can go sleep
[18:09] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit daar nuvolari
[18:10] <Kilos> hoekom moeg ubuntu
[18:12] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[18:12] <nuvolari> beter week as laas week
[18:21] <Kilos> that lvm thing , what is it for
[18:28] <nuvolari> IIRC logical volume management?
[18:29] <nuvolari> well, a guess oom Kilos :P
[18:29] <Kilos> ya but whats that for
[18:29] <theblazehen> Basically flexible partitions
[18:29] <theblazehen> so you can rersize it on the fly
[18:29] <nuvolari> it enables you to combine the space from multiple drives into one, for example
[18:29] <theblazehen> yeah, and what I said
[18:30] <Kilos> oh my
[18:30] <Kilos> clever hey'
[18:30] <nuvolari> and more
[18:30] <Kilos> i go sleep. night all. lekker slaap
[18:30] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos
[18:30] <nuvolari> lekker slaap
[18:31] <nuvolari> I should try to fix my arch boot
[18:31] <Kilos> danke
[18:31] <kbmonkey> gn ki	:]
[18:31] <kbmonkey> ai ai ai, the 3g is failing tonight
[18:34] <kbmonkey> oh git tags are neat. how come I never used these before?
[18:47] <theblazehen> kbmonkey, what they do?
[18:48] <kbmonkey> they mark a specific commit with a name so you can get the code for that version
[18:50] <kbmonkey> hmm, I do not have any windows to test if my game runs through this pyg launcher
[19:04] <theblazehen> ah ty
[19:14] <kbmonkey> have you worked with git theblazehen ?
[19:47] <nuvolari> \o/ it's alive!!!
[19:47] <nuvolari> after months!
[19:48] <nuvolari> I love Arch again :>
[19:48] <kbmonkey> lol!
[19:49] <kbmonkey> still have not run Arch
[19:49] <nuvolari> aw :-/
[19:49] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I think you'll love it
[19:49] <nuvolari> I have not tried #!, but I get the idea they are similar
[19:49] <kbmonkey> I may be getting my afrihost mobile device this week, then I will have to celebrate by downloading a distro :D
[19:50] <nuvolari> ok... so let me see how much updates I have
[19:50] <kbmonkey> a lot of the crunchbang people also run Arch, or even only Arch
[19:50] <kbmonkey> on the forums
[19:51] <nuvolari> good grief! 407MiB's downloads :-/
[19:52] <kbmonkey> wow! what windows manager have you installed with it ?
[19:52] <nuvolari> my boss set up arch on his monster box at home
[19:52] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: xfce
[19:52] <nuvolari> it's on my netbook, so I tried to make it as lightweight as possible
[19:52] <kbmonkey> there were lots of updates from upstream the past few months though
[19:53] <nuvolari> the trouble with arch is that you'll have to update frequently
[19:53] <nuvolari> or rather, there ar e frequent updates
[19:54] <kbmonkey> itit is a custom rolled distro right? not based on debian is it?
[19:54] <kbmonkey> it is*
[19:54] <nuvolari> yeah
[19:54] <nuvolari> it's somewhere based between package managed and gentoo
[19:55] <kbmonkey> as I understand it's updates are as frequents as if running debian sid
[19:55] <kbmonkey> i.e. very regular XD
[19:55] <nuvolari> I had to install some stuff that required git (which is spart of the build system)
[19:56] <nuvolari> so it's quite source-oriented
[19:56] <nuvolari> but ont as bad as gentoo
[19:56] <nuvolari> argh, lag
[19:56] <nuvolari> *not
[19:56] <nuvolari> well, I can't really comment on gentoo
[19:56] <nuvolari> I heard the stories, you know
[19:57] <nuvolari> all of a sudden I crave some pasta
[19:57] <kbmonkey> ah it is rolling release
[19:57] <nuvolari> :-/
[19:57] <nuvolari> brb
[19:57] <kbmonkey> LOL
[19:57] <nuvolari> yeah, rolling release
[19:57] <nuvolari> I just resqued my system with a "january" image
[19:58] <nuvolari> oh sorry, february
[20:01] <kbmonkey> well I got all my dotfiles on github and that includes my window manager bindings and shortcuts,
[20:01] <kbmonkey> be interesting to see how portable they are on another distro :D
[20:29] <nuvolari> alrighty, seems stable again
[20:29] <nuvolari> and I promise to never force an upgrade again when a warning is given :P


[21:13] <sw> Tatanka: Yes, your hostname shows 'ip.<IP_ADDRESS>'.
[21:13] <chinny> @hadifarnoud sudo service postfix stop - if it's postfix for example. more important is the reason ist's sending spam as wilee-nilee said
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, So in every instance the dvd/usb do not show in the bios or the other boiot from menu not in the bios but reched with key prompts at powering on?
[21:13] <Tatanka> damn, alright thanks!
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[21:14] <hadifarnoud> chinny:  thanks.
[21:14] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee correct. I make sure the m5sum is the same as the one I am downloading as well. It also shows up in my home folder correctly, my computer just doesn't know it exists on startup.
[21:14] <ccclipsss> md5sum*
[21:15] <ccclipsss> I have a Dell 2000 recently purchased and previously had Windows 8.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Hm, that is strange, not in the bios, are you familiar with the other boot from menu, outside of the bios.
[21:16] <chinny> am hoping someone can help me. having issue with intermediate cert and apache ssl config. ie and chrome fine but firefox having issue. I thought config was correct and the intermediate cert i specified was being served but it seems not. firefox does have the root that issued the intermediate though.
[21:16] <ccclipsss> Yes. In the boot menu outside of BIOS I can choose Ubuntu or from EUFI file which leads to dead ends when I go through it, but my USB or DVD never show up.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | ccclipsss
[21:17] <ccclipsss> Will this help site apply to other versions I am trying to install? Or just Ubuntu?
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Not sure if you have seen this link, UEFI is really important info for the channel at the get-go
[21:17] <armin> anyone a clue what that power manager icon in the panel is? obviously not gnome-power-manager, right?
[21:18] <kostkon> armin, where exactly
[21:18] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee I will try the stuff in that link. Thank you. Hopefully I won't have to come back for more help :)
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Ubuntu probably I would check with the other OS's channels or on the web I suppose, UEFI is a bit of a problem as the manufacturer have their own versions, and the OS's have different install methods in response
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Best of luck. ;)
[21:19] <armin> kostkon: the battery icon in the unity panel
[21:22] <Zagomah_> Ur OS... need itr
[21:22] <Zagomah_> Ur OS... need it
[21:22] <Zagomah_> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/635/mousetravel/
[21:23] <aguitel> how reinstall grub2 under gpt and uefi mode ?
[21:24] <daftykins> !uefi
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, I believe the bootrepair tool has repairs, however I have not used it, I use the cli in these matters, and am not UEFI schooled yet.
[21:24] <daftykins> aguitel: might be something useful there
[21:25] <aguitel> ok
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, Honestly the ubuntu forums is the best uefi support.
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> start a thread there as well
[21:25] <aguitel> ok
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, If you do run the bootrepiar bootinfo summary and post it in that thread, it is generated if you run a repair, you get the http address to it.
[21:27] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, ok
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> You can just run the summary though aguitel
[21:32] <EncryptedSalsa> Just completed a LUKS/LVM install and got a few issues, on boot i get dropped to recovery shell in intramfs, i can cryptsetup mount my LUKS partition and then continue the boot just fine, i have setup /etc/crypttab however something isnt getting passed to the kernel on boot
[21:36] <malt> hello, i installed the 12.04 ubuntu. I have not used ubuntu since 9 version. Is there any way I can move the menu bar down to bottom and also where does my installed programs go
[21:36] <chinny> Am hoping someone can help me. I have an issue with intermediate cert and apache ssl config. IE and chrome work fine but firefox is missing the intermediate cert. I thought the config was correct and apache should serve it as I have specified the intermediate cert with SSLCertificateChainFile. Running openssl s_client -connect server.tld:443 -showcerts fails but if I add -CAPath /etc/ssl/certs/ it passes. I'm running 12
[21:41] <malt> anybody know how to get menu bar to bottom instead of at top
[21:42] <OerHeks> malt maybe ubuntu-tweak got that option now, not sure
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> isnt it unity-tweak now?
[21:43] <malt> ok thanks
[21:43] <malt> everytime you install a software app now do you have to search for it in the dash home?
[21:43] <OerHeks> ah indeed, unity tweak >> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/unity-tweak-tool-available-in-ubuntu.html
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool
[21:44] <OerHeks> malt, on the bottom of dash, you see white icons, browse trough them
[21:45] <OerHeks> one is some sort of the old application menu
[21:45] <OerHeks> and installed lenses appear there too.
[21:48] <griwesx> malt: you can type the name into the dash and it will find it: then you can pin it to the launcher bar
[21:49] <malt> it should work for 12.04? the tweak it was showing for 13
[21:50] <folorn> could anyone help me with a small problem on increasing the size of the Cache ?? i get this error when i go to update (Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. C)
[21:51] <rypervenche> tga0: Did you ever fix your problem?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> malt: then use ubuntu-tweak
[21:52] <Slart> folorn: google has a couple of suggestions if you try googling for the error-message. this is one http://aziest.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/how-to-increase-your-apt-cache-limit/
[21:53] <Slart> folorn: here's one from askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/219523/dynamic-mmap-ran-out-of-room-when-trying-to-sudo-apt-get-anything
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> folorn: wget wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[21:55] <tannji> I am trying to check for dependencies and necessary packages for AMD vid driver before installing...  is there a good way to do this other than searching for installed in Synapse?
[21:55] <griwesx> ActionParsnip: That's very thorough, I might use that :)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> griwesx: its step 5 from the synaptic fix package page, i just have it in a script as I am lazy :-)
[21:56] <griwesx> ActionParsnip: I take it then you think he doesnt need a cache size increase, and just needs to clean it out?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> tannji: sudo apt-get -f install ,will resolve deps for you
[21:56] <Derrick0400> Someone please help me im trying to get into #raspberrypi but it requires me to be registered
[21:56] <Derrick0400> how do i do that
[21:56] <Slart> !register | Derrick0400
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> griwesx: worth a try
[21:56] <folorn> thanks slart
[21:56] <daftykins> Derrick0400: join #freenode and they'll help
[21:57] <Derrick0400> msg NickServ REGISTER testing321<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:57] <Derrick0400> Lol
[21:57] <Derrick0400> so how do i register
[21:57] <Derrick0400> i tried that command
[21:57] <griwesx> Derrick0400: instructions are here: https://www.freenode.net/faq.shtml
[21:57] <Derrick0400> thank ya
[21:57] <tannji> ActionParsnip:  is that before or after I install the driver?
[21:57] <folorn> thanks acionparsnip
[21:57] <folorn> thanks guys
[21:57] <Slart> folorn: you're welcome
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> derrick0400: ask in #freenode like ubottu sugeated
[21:57] <folorn> just wasn't sure how to do it or if synaptic would
[21:58] <folorn> i tried to ask in #linux and they treated me awful
[21:58] <folorn> :(
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> tannji: after. the driver package will pull in deps anyway
[21:58] <folorn> insulting and mean literally
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> folorn: why use synaptic? software centre is in a default install....
[21:58] <Slart> folorn: they tend to frown on questions which can be solver by a quick search with your favourite search engine
[21:59] <usercheck_> is in ubuntu, txt file structure not same in other os?, eof of file structure
[21:59] <tannji> ActionParsnip:  OK, so the AMD driver announcement with its list of required stuff is kinda superfluous?
[21:59] <folorn> just upsets me is all im no linux god
[21:59] <folorn> and it was humble question is all :(
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> usercheck_: use notepad++ in windows, it handles the difference for you
[22:00] <Slart> usercheck_: afaik it's the same as in windows.. although the line endings are different
[22:00] <folorn> dunno action never had this problem before :(
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> folorn: you'll learn in time
[22:00] <Ben64> folorn: google should always be the first step though
[22:00] <folorn> oh?
[22:00] <Corey> folorn: Until that point, being polite and constructive, and disregarding those who aren't, is probably a better approach. Remember, we're all volunteers. :-)
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> tannji: there is a packaged AMD / ATI driver in the repos
[22:00] <folorn> see i use BT love my ubuntu but you people literally are the only folks who work with people seriously
[22:00] <folorn> and youhelp everyone
[22:00] <tannji> ActionParsnip: Synaptic just seems easier to use...  I can more easily see what is available or installed
[22:01] <folorn> AGREE corey
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> folorn: what is 'BT'
[22:01] <folorn> and you guys are great :)
[22:01] <Corey> BackTrack. :-p
[22:01] <webber420> how do i confirm registration
[22:01] <usercheck_> ActionParsnip, Slart thx.
[22:01] <webber420> do i just paste the confirmation command here
[22:01] <folorn> its backtrack but the whole damn distro is ubuntu literally
[22:01] <usercheck_> but i have migrate to linux
[22:01] <Corey> folorn: ##linux is often great, but there are a few folks who tend to be a bit off topic. /ignore is a better response than ranting that them, just FYI.
[22:01] <webber420> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER webber420 hpukdvhoujjx
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> folorn: backtrack isnt supported here
[22:01] <folorn> sorry for the language :( hrm stil fuming some.
[22:01] <webber420> where do i paste that
[22:01] <tannji> ActionParsnip,: yep, but wanted to try the 13.6 beta driver, supposed to have a few fixes specific to Ubuntu 13.04
[22:02] <usercheck_> althought os win is still in boot, but my primary is linux
[22:02] <k1l> lets put the offtopic into #ubuntu-offtopic and the backtrack support to their support channels
[22:02] <folorn> its the same distro literally action
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> folorn: ask in #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[22:02] <folorn> no joke
[22:02] <k1l> !backtrack | folorn
[22:02]  * folorn nods.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> folorn: i know exactly what backtrack is
[22:02] <holstein> folorn: its not, though.. and its not supported here.. though, you are welcome to run a live CD or dual boot
[22:02] <usercheck_> i ask about eof file, caused where i'm try in programming,
[22:02] <usercheck_> i see it's not same
[22:03] <Corey> folorn: Just FYI, backtrack isn't really envisioned as a general use distribution, it's a pentest platform. One that I find kinda silly, but that's a personal opinion. :-)
[22:03] <folorn> why do all my ubuntu packages work so good with it then?? not being a smart a-- just curious ?
[22:03] <Corey> folorn: Because it's Ubuntu derived.
[22:03] <Slart> usercheck_: can you explain what your problem is.. you can copy paste code in pastebin if that helps
[22:03] <Slart> !pastebin | usercheck_
[22:03] <folorn> agree corey
[22:03] <Corey> folorn: It'll work just fine up until it doesn't.
[22:03] <usercheck_> but which that i must use format in text file , win or linux?
[22:03] <k1l> enough of that backtrack talk now. lets stick to ubuntu support in here. thanks
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> folorn: none of the 'ubuntu based' distros are supported by the ubuntu community. similary ubuntu is based on debian but if you ask for ubuntu support in debain support forums you will be pointed to here
[22:03] <griwesx> usercheck_: ctrl+Z in windows, ctrl+D in liux
[22:03] <webber420> WHERE DO I POST THE CONFIRMATION CODE I GOT IN MY EMAIL
[22:04] <usercheck_> griwesx thx
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> webber420: lose the caps
[22:04] <webber420> Sorry
[22:04] <tga0> rypervenche: yes, but I'm not sure exactly what fixed it
[22:04] <webber420> but how
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | webber420
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> webber420: confirmation code for what?
[22:04] <dr_willis> usercheck_:  windows uses a cr+lf    for end of line in a text file.. linux uses just a cr   i belive
[22:04] <tga0> rypervenche: I uninstalled old kernels and did a update-initramfs -u -k all (that was failing initially because it was trying to cram too many kernels in 100M /boot)
[22:04] <webber420> to register an account on here
[22:04] <usercheck_> Slart thx
[22:04] <webber420> i got the email
[22:04] <Ben64> webber420: doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue, maybe ask #freenode?
[22:05] <holstein> webber420: you need to be careful and not share your passcode here.. or in any channel.. i would /j #freenode
[22:05] <tga0> rypervenche: and I also updated crypttab and did an update-grub
[22:05] <Slart> folorn: even if a distro is based on ubuntu it is not certain that everything is the same.. say a configuration file is moved somewhere else.. then installing a package that somehow works with this configuration file will make your os do weird things.. perhaps the ubuntu people found it to be energy draining to keep track of all the differences and decided that every distro gets to support their own stuff
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> webber420: ask in #freenode
[22:05] <usercheck_> dr_willies thx,
[22:05] <chinny> is anyone able to help with an apache question?
[22:05] <webber420> i never posted a real password here lol, i used testing321 to test it out
[22:05] <psilo_> Is there no apt-based way to completely uninstall mysql?  It seems I have to manually delete /var/lib/mysql and others.
[22:05] <tga0> rypervenche: I think it was just a matter of doing a full update-initramfs
[22:05] <holstein> !ask > chinny
[22:06] <usercheck_> but which between them we must put the format into my programming?
[22:06] <griwesx> usercheck_: are you asking about end of file or end of line?
[22:06] <usercheck_> i'm sorry my explain is not clear
[22:06] <dr_willis> usercheck_:  make the app check and use either one
[22:06] <tannji> ActionParsnip: are you aware of a good recent guide on installing AMD drivers?   I have been trying since 12.04 to get off the Juniper Pro drivers, but I kill the desktop every time.
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> psilo_: i think you still have to remove the data
[22:07] <Slart> usercheck_: if your program is to be compiled on linux, do it the linux way.. if it's supposed to be compiled on windows I would use the windows way.. it's easy enough to convert it so it's not really a big problem (and most real editors handle both variants anyway)
[22:07] <usercheck_> griwesx eof and eol in text file format
[22:08] <folorn> anyways thanks everyone :)
[22:08] <psilo_> ActionParsnip: followup question then, is there any way to restore a system to more-or-less "stock" state, without reinstalling the OS?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> tannji: all i know is use the additional drivers. If its a 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx then there is a legacy driver PPA
[22:08] <usercheck_> dr_willies thx i will try to use it
[22:08] <holstein> !ati | tannji this is what i always refer to
[22:08] <psilo_> I'm working on some automated configuration managament stuff, and it's ideal if I can start with a blank slate each time I test a change
[22:08] <delac> gnome-search-tool, spaces in search path, how to format the path so that gnome-search-tool accepts it?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> psilo_you can clear your users home out and get default app settings. not sure outside of home
[22:09] <griwesx> usercheck_: i dont see when you ever need to insert EOF into a text file; EOL is LF (0x10) on Linux and CR+LF on windows. Just use notepad++ or gedit, they will automatically fix it
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> psilo_make a vm and rollback the snapshot
[22:09] <Slart> psilo_: I would go with a vm for that..
[22:09] <dr_willis> psilo_: virtualbox makes sense in that case
[22:09] <tannji> ActionParsnip: so you actually got the additional driver check box in settings to work?  using fglrx drivers?  that always kills the desktop for me and I have to resort to terminal to fix and revert
[22:09] <usercheck_> Slart, thx ,maybe it can be solve my problem. so i must use 2 format, if want in win, use win format, and if want in linux use linux format,(txt file) , is it true?
[22:10] <tannji> holstein:  thanks, looking at it now
[22:10] <griwesx> usercheck_: Your text editor will take care of it, stop obsessing over it
[22:10] <dr_willis> usercheck_: many apps support both
[22:10] <LittleAnon> Hello
[22:10] <Slart> usercheck_: depends on what we're talking about.. if you are writing source code it depends on the compiler.. I don't know if they handle both endings.. but this isn't really something you need to worry about..
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> tannji: which gpu do you have?
[22:10] <usercheck_> griwesx thx for sugestion, will to try it
[22:11] <treehau55> Hi, is there any hope for the future of linux to support the dual graphics cards? Or at least support turning one off completely so I dont always get <2 hours of battery life
[22:11] <usercheck_> dr_willis thx,
[22:11] <dr_willis> treehau55:  nvidia has made promises...
[22:11] <Slart> treehau55: there are stuff like bumblebee .. so there is hope
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> treehau55: bumblebee is getting better. imho its best avoided
[22:12] <holstein> treehau55: think of it this way.. will the vendors of those devices choose to support linux.. and i think they will
[22:12] <folorn> http://vpaste.net/J5ShZ
[22:12] <usercheck_> Slart i;m writing both,
[22:12] <tannji> ActionParsnip: 6750HD
[22:12] <folorn> forgot to post the error in my rage anyways didn't work gonna try synaptic and more googleing
[22:12] <usercheck_> slart thx
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> folorn: backtrack STILL isnt supported here
[22:13] <folorn> well maybe i was wrong about this channel
[22:13] <holstein> folorn: AFAIK, bt has support channels... also, you can try and replicate the error in ubuntu
[22:13] <folorn> however i tried that channel NO ONE EVER talks in there
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> folorn: ask in #backtrack-linux
[22:13] <folorn> did no one ever talks
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> folorn: doesnt mean you are supported here
[22:13] <holstein> folorn: have you tried ubuntu?
[22:14] <Ben64> folorn: then maybe you should use a distro with an active room?
[22:14] <treehau55> Well, I've tried every which configuration and installation guide that exists. Is there anyway to just turn off the dedicated GPU and always use the integrated?
[22:14] <dr_willis> bt  main channel is not on freenode  folorn
[22:14] <tannji> I just about bought a nVidia 660 card, but read about all kinds of tearing affects with the Kepler chips...  between that and the Mir/Wayland controversy, dont know what to do, lol
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> folorn: why not use Ubuntu and get all the Ubuntu support
[22:14] <holstein> treehau55: dis the vendor offer that option in the bios?
[22:14] <holstein> did*
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> folorn: you arent using Ubuntu so you dont get supported by its community
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> tannji: are you using Saucy pre-release?
[22:15] <holstein> treehau55: for my specific dual GPU chip, i used this *great* guide https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn
[22:15] <holstein> treehau55: you might be able to refer to it and see how to get one of them not to load
[22:15] <treehau55> holstein, I have a super terrible bios. I can barely set my boot order. I wish I could rid myself of that as well
[22:16] <tga0> on a 2 router network I can ping B from A, but not A from B
[22:16] <tannji> ActionParsnip: I upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04...  no Saucy
[22:16] <tga0> how would you debug this
[22:16] <holstein> tga0: i would try a networking channel.. also, look at the firewalls
[22:16] <Slart> treehau55: some motherboards/laptops have specialized stuff for choosing one or the other card.. for my asus laptop I have a small kernel module that turns of the dedicated graphics chip.. googling for your motherboard/laptop model might give you some answers
[22:16] <tga0> what's a better channel on freenode?
[22:17] <holstein> tga0: a networking channel might do you better.. this is ubuntu OS support
[22:17] <Slart> tga0: isn't there a channel called #networking ?
[22:17] <griwesx> tga0: You might it helpful to draw a network diagram and put your config into on it. They'll need to ask you for it to fix that, more than likely
[22:17] <treehau55> another constant linux problem I have: My networking works 100x better in windows, which suprises me.  I have a intel wimax 6150. I tried the guide where it told me to signal the kernel to turn off the wimax portion of the driver and it would give me better performance, but its still terrible
[22:17] <tga0> thanks, I'll try in ##networking
[22:18] <holstein> treehau55: i took my 'not very well supported' by broadcom chip out, and traded the wifi for something that works better.. i think keeping that in mind might help you find support.. linux supports what it is allowed to "out of the box" mostly
[22:19] <griwesx> when intel is "not well supported" it's time to panic :)
[22:19] <treehau55> I mean I wish I could just solder another wifi chip on my notebook but I dont think thats an option, haha
[22:19] <Waza420> why cant i join #raspberrypi it says im not registered with services
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> griwesx; usually a cheap screen or monitor etc
[22:19] <Waza420> when im CLEARLY logged in
[22:19] <holstein> Waza420: i would ask in #freenode
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> waza420: not an ubuntu issue, ask in #freenode
[22:19] <usercheck_> how check/view all opened file in ubuntu process?
[22:19] <griwesx> ActionParsnip: I meant his intel wifi, not graphics :)
[22:20] <Slart> usercheck_: lsof in a terminal
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> griwesx: ahhh
[22:20] <Slart> usercheck_: man lsof  for the man page.. you'll need it =)
[22:20] <usercheck_> Slart thx,
[22:20] <usercheck_> slart ok =)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> usercheck_: you can grep the lsof output :-)
[22:22] <d4rkn30> Is there any way i can stop having to use sudo all the time.
[22:22] <holstein> d4rkn30: for what?
[22:22] <k1l> d4rkn30: you shouldnt be using sudo all the time
[22:22] <griwesx> d4rkn30: Yes but it is highly not recommended. It's there to protect the system
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> d4rkn30: once you setup the OS you rarely use it
[22:22] <usercheck_> ActionParsnip thx,
[22:22] <jrib> d4rkn30: what is that you are doing so often using sudo?
[22:23] <Slart> d4rkn30: sudo is a good idea.. you can customize it though.. check the sudoers file and the other configuration stuff for sudo
[22:23] <griwesx> Do NOT edit sudoers file directly. there's a command to do it safely. I forget the name.
[22:24] <d4rkn30> I know, I know guys, its just every time i try and move encrypted files via the filemanager i get '' Not authorised'' Its mainly for thumar, as i use alot of encrypted drives
[22:24] <Slart> d4rkn30: yes.. what griwesx said.. dont edit it directly.. there is a command that does some safety checking before saving..
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> d4rkn30: remeber, gksudo for GUI apps
[22:24] <griwesx> d4rkn30: Thunar has a thing to open it in root mode
[22:25] <d4rkn30> griwesx, ahh i over looked that, You see i mainly do everything via Shell so typing sudo all the time tends to take up a lot of time.
[22:26] <griwesx> griwesx: what about mc?
[22:26] <griwesx> d4rkn30: oops, i meant you. do you use mc?
[22:27] <daftykins> d4rkn30: you're familiar with typing 'sudo -i' or -s to switch to root for a session?
[22:27] <holstein> d4rkn30: i use "sudo -s"
[22:27] <d4rkn30> griwesx, imo i guess, and never heard of it, is it wise to look into ?
[22:27] <Ekushey> d4rkn30: use "sudo visudo" to open the sudoers file and add the line: "your_username ALL=(ALL)  ALL"
[22:27] <griwesx> d4rkn30: it's a file manager for terminal. package name is 'mc' or midnight commander
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> ekushey: please dont advise that
[22:28] <usercheck_> if i have given by someone one .deb file but i have check it ,and it is not from ubuntu,is that safe for me?
[22:28] <Slart> usercheck_: the safe thing is to assume it isn't
[22:28] <holstein> d4rkn30: if you want to have a root session.. sudo -s or sudo -i is the way to do it. if you dont want to type sudo
[22:28] <Ekushey> ActionParsnip: what else can he do?
[22:28] <griwesx> usercheck_: open it iwth the archive manager, not package manager, then it will not install
[22:29] <daftykins> Ekushey: safe things, for one
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> ekushey: could add certain commands to not need password, not all. That will remive all security
[22:30] <usercheck_> Slart txh, maybe caused im newbie, not yet know all source code.
[22:30] <griwesx> i think that ALL=(ALL) ALL is the default for ubuntu actually, at least for the sudoers groupi
[22:30] <usercheck_> Slart thx, maybe caused im newbie, not yet know all source code.,
[22:31] <Slart> usercheck_: no worries.. noone knows everything .. only those who don't ask stay dumb =)
[22:31] <usercheck_> griwesx thx, i will try open it using archive manager
[22:32] <usercheck_> Slart thx for motivation
[22:34] <NetForHack> where i can find pricing for landscape ?
[22:34] <holstein> !landscape
[22:39] <usercheck_>  my laktop harddisk is sound(crrrrkkk...crrrrkkkk...crrrkkk), can we programming it to silent,not sound?)
[22:40] <Ekushey> usercheck_: looks like your hard disk is going to fail... take backup, fast!
[22:40] <Slart> usercheck_: there were some tools to change the hard drive access patterns.. I can't really remember what they were called.. I recall it being used to media-centers and such where hard drive noise was a big deal
[22:41] <usercheck_> Ekushey, is it not normal?
[22:41] <usercheck_> Ekushey, is it(sound) not normal?
[22:41] <Slart> usercheck_: sorry I can't help you any further
[22:42] <Ekushey> usercheck_: well, if the sound is loud, then it definitely means hardware problem... do you've warranty?
[22:42] <usercheck_> Slart, thx i will find information about drive access pattern,
[22:43] <usercheck_> Ekushey , warranty is end
[22:44] <usercheck_> Ekushey , warranty is end several year ago
[22:44] <Slart> usercheck_: I'm not sure it was called exactly that.. but it might be worth a try
[22:45] <usercheck_> Slart ok, thx .i will try some ways to do it
[22:45] <Slart> usercheck_: this might be it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_acoustic_management
[22:45] <Ekushey> usercheck_: loud noise from hard disks are a sort of a warning, i'd suggest backing up important data and take it to an experience technician for further advise/check
[22:45] <anom> I have php5.conf in etc/apache2/mods-available but not in etc/apache2/mods-enabled. Is this why no php is rendernig?
[22:45] <anom> rendering*
[22:47] <usercheck_> Slart thx
[22:48] <usercheck_> Ekushey yes, thx .
[22:49] <Ekushey> You're welcome usercheck_, good luck!
[22:50] <delac> gnome-search-tool, spaces in search path, how to format the path so that gnome-search-tool accepts it?
[22:51] <Ben64> delac: probably quotes or backslash
[22:51] <delac> Ben64: unfortunately both fail
[22:52] <delac> Ben64: also %20 doesn't seem to work
[22:52] <usercheck_> Ekushey thx, you also.
[22:54] <hadifarnoud> my server is super slow. why php-cgi has UDP connection? https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/1fd221eaae01a7e084ec
[22:55] <Archguy> Hey, can I format a 256 thick SD Card to have Lubuntu 13.04 ?
[22:55] <treehau55> 17.5watts currently being used by ubuntu. =/
[22:56] <dr_willis> 256 thick?
[22:56] <info> dr_willis: 256 Mb
[22:57] <deanrock0> it's probably too small, except for network install if they provide it
[22:57] <kostkon> 256gb
[22:57] <info> kostkon: no
[22:57] <info> Megabyte
[22:57] <kostkon> :/
[22:57] <info> deanrock0: A) how do I check they provide it ? B) How do I check if it's too small it doesn't say
[22:58] <info> B) Where would I check this ?
[22:58] <dr_willis> !minimal
[22:59] <Destep> Not sure if this is the right channel, but who wants to help a noob figure out how to connect to his Windows shares?
[23:00] <dr_willis> !samba
[23:00] <Destep> I've followed numerous guides and forum posts, all to no avail...
[23:00] <dr_willis> give details..
[23:01] <treehau55> is there no vgaswitcheroo in 12.04?
[23:01] <Destep> The closest I can get is using Naut to "Connect To", I get the password prompt, then it errors out...
[23:02] <daftykins> Destep: which Windows?
[23:03] <Destep> Then I get Failed to mount Windows share: Connection Timed Out
[23:03] <Destep> Windows 7
[23:03] <info> dr_willis: Is this the same for Lubuntu ?
[23:03] <griwesx> Destep: try the ip address not hostname, for the server
[23:03] <daftykins> Destep: is that host in a homegroup currently? how is the share configured?
[23:03] <Destep> Yes, they're in a Homegroup
[23:03] <dr_willis> lubuntu is just tge desktop you install over the base install info
[23:04] <Destep> Sooo, smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/TV?
[23:04] <daftykins> Destep: also, in network + sharing centre, is it currently told it's attached to a home, office or public network?
[23:04] <Destep> Home
[23:04] <daftykins> i've never used a homegroup when using inter-OS sharing tbh
[23:05] <griwesx> Destep: Yes, try the IP
[23:05] <Destep> I would think it wouldn't matter, since everything is part of the same Workgroup...
[23:05] <daftykins> Destep: given homegroups use encryption..
[23:06] <Destep> Hrmmm, good point...
[23:06] <Destep> Can Homegroups be disabled?
[23:06] <daftykins> Destep: yeah open the N&S centre and click on it, then select 'leave homegroup'
[23:07] <daftykins> Destep: so how have you set up your share? did you manually go to the sharing properties on a folder?
[23:08] <Destep> Working on it, one sec
[23:08] <treehau55> does acpi_call work for samsung laptops?
[23:09] <holstein> treehau55: do you have one? try it on there, if so... that would be the best way to tell for certain
[23:09] <treehau55> holstein, im just trying to disable the dedicated gpu all together
[23:09] <treehau55> and theres several options, acpi_call_gui looks to be the easiest
[23:11] <Destep> Ok, left Homegroup and double checked sharing options....rebooting real quick
[23:12] <daftykins> Destep: so was i right that you just right clicked a folder, went to advanced sharing and ticked the box to share it?
[23:14] <nightdrever> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04..... then installed properity driver that was (recommended) restarted and ubuntu wouldnt start..... ive just reinstalled ubuntu.....done updates first then in additional drivers is it safe to install Recommended?
[23:14] <treehau55> holstein, is acpi_call save
[23:14] <treehau55> holstein, is acpi_call safe* ?
[23:14] <daftykins> nightdrever: it really depends on your system and what is being recommended. we'll need to know both of those
[23:14] <nightdrever> right now im on post release updates
[23:14] <nightdrever> ok
[23:15] <nightdrever> im on amd 64 bit
[23:15] <ccclipsss_> wilee-nilee
[23:15] <nightdrever> nvidea driver
[23:15] <daftykins> nightdrever: please type on one line if you can
[23:15] <nightdrever> ok
[23:15] <ccclipsss_> wilee-nilee remember that problem i was having creating a USB flash drive boot disk?
[23:15] <holstein> treehau55: when i got my dual GPU, i ran a few live CD's and tests.. then, i found that post i shared.. then, i had a few installs that i "tested" things in.. and went with what worked best.. the other scenario for me was to purchase something with linux support, but i got a good deal on this used
[23:16] <nightdrever> what line?
[23:16] <daftykins> nightdrever: i mean press enter less ;) so what kind of computer is it?
[23:17] <nightdrever> ok amd athlon 64 bit, nvidia graphics card, 4ghz processor, 4 gb ram
[23:17] <daftykins> custom build?
[23:18] <nightdrever> yeah i think so
[23:18] <daftykins> well it's not Dell/HP/etc ?
[23:18] <nightdrever> hp
[23:18] <daftykins> yep that's a branded one then
[23:18] <daftykins> do you know which nvidia graphics card it is?
[23:18] <nightdrever> 610 i think
[23:19] <kingnick42> This a laptop?
[23:19] <JaceP> how about look up the model number on the front of your case or front/bottom of your laptop
[23:20] <nightdrever> im on desktop...just checked box nvidea geforce gt 640
[23:20] <tannji> quick question:  what do I call 13.04 when installing AMD driver manually?   ie:  12.04 is referred to as Ubuntu/precise in the terminal.  Using "Ubuntu/raring"  does not seem to work, returned "Distro version entered incorrectly"
[23:20] <daftykins> nightdrever: have you installed all the updates beforehand?
[23:21] <nightdrever> the first time when pc would start i hadnt i installed at same time
[23:21] <daftykins> tannji: it sounds like you might be installing AMD drivers in the not-so-best way
[23:21] <holstein> !13.04
[23:21] <daftykins> !ati | tannji
[23:21] <nightdrever> this time ive installed updates first
[23:21] <tannji> daftykins: I am using directions from your link....
[23:21] <treehau55> holstein, do you know how I enable vga_switcheroo?
[23:21] <daftykins> nightdrever: ok, it's worth a go. do you have another computer you can come back online from to diagnose it if a problem occurs?
[23:21] <nightdrever> nope
[23:22] <treehau55> holstein,  /debug/vga_switcheroo is not there but it is enabled in the kernel options
[23:22] <daftykins> tannji: ok just checking
[23:23] <holstein> treehau55: i didnt use that.. i used the ppa at the link i gave.. but, there are manual instructions for debian that might help you
[23:23] <treehau55> holstein, which link?
[23:23] <daftykins> tannji: does it throw an error when you try "Ubuntu/raring" ?
[23:23] <nightdrever> http://imagebin.org/262321
[23:23] <newmember_> does anyone have a 'how to' install openstack on 13.04?
[23:23] <holstein> treehau55: https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn
[23:23] <gavin__> hello
[23:24] <gavin__> does anyone know if there are drivers for a wireless device?
[23:24] <daftykins> nightdrever: which one did you try last time?
[23:24] <daftykins> gavin__: which wireless device? :)
[23:24] <nightdrever> i tried the one which says (recommended)
[23:24] <treehau55> holstein,  ah bumblebee wont help for my gpu, i have ati
[23:24] <holstein> treehau55: im not using bumblebee either
[23:24] <gavin__> daftykins: model number is TL-WN822N
[23:25] <gavin__> It is a TP-Link wireless device
[23:25] <holstein> treehau55: i do have nvidia, however.. but, it wont hurt to look at the manual info
[23:26] <daftykins> nightdrever: wouldn't hurt to try the one with the green spot on the left then. just run software update again just to make sure you're fully updated
[23:26] <daftykins> gavin__: which ubuntu? i take it you see no functionality at all with it connected?
[23:27] <nightdrever> the one with the green spot on the left im already using.... is that adequate?
[23:27] <gavin__> ubuntu 10.10
[23:27] <holstein> newmember_: i would try a server channel.. i would refer to http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private-cloud/openstack as well as consider the ubuntu based http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/announcing-openstack-builds
[23:27] <tannji> daftykins: as I said before, when doing: sudo sh amd-driver-installer-13-6-x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/raring"   it says Error: Distro version entered incorrectly
[23:27] <b3rz3rk3r> My swap is seemingly disabled, will it come back if it format the partition here? http://i.imgur.com/eeVhn8S.jpg or will I need to edit the fstab more?
[23:28] <gavin__> daftykins: ubuntu 10.10, incase you didn't receive the first message
[23:29] <daftykins> nightdrever: are you wanting to use anything in particular in 3D terms? like games?
[23:29] <nightdrever> yeah
[23:29] <Slart> !swap | b3rz3rk3r, tried swapon?
[23:30] <daftykins> gavin__: do you want to stick to 10.10 at all?
[23:30] <daftykins> gavin__: i found some discussion here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1905813
[23:30] <nightdrever> but thing is im not sure if ill get it to work, ive tried on mint  lmde couldnt get it to work so i thought id try ubuntu..... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=26971&iTestingId=75920
[23:30] <daftykins> nightdrever: maybe just try some games and see how you get on, if that's already an installed nvidia driver it might be fine already
[23:31] <gavin__> daftykins: i can't seem to find the actual drivers for ubuntu
[23:31] <nightdrever> daftykins if you have enough spare time could you look at that page  and tell me how to install?
[23:31] <nightdrever> if you dont have time i understand
[23:31] <daftykins> nightdrever: wine support is over in ##winehq
[23:31] <nightdrever> ok how do i change to that room?
[23:31] <b3rz3rk3r> I haven't Slart, so I just issue the swapon command with sudo essentially?
[23:31] <nightdrever> and thats for ur help/time
[23:32] <daftykins>  /j #winehq
[23:32] <schultza> trying to get my horizontal scroll wheel working... 13.04
[23:32] <schultza> on virtualbox
[23:32] <Slart> b3rz3rk3r: I think so.. there might be more to it though
[23:32] <scottcs76> Ugh. Any one available to help with a resolution issue? 12.04 lts fresh install, gtx 560 ti
[23:32] <daftykins> gavin__: i'm guessing you might be tackling the problem in Windows terms? you don't really download and install drivers with Ubuntu
[23:33] <daftykins> scottcs76: please give more detail about your question
[23:33] <gavin__> daftykins: how do i actually do the installation? can you teach me the procedure?
[23:33] <treehau55> how do I boot with modeset=1?
[23:33] <holstein> !nomodeset | treehau55
[23:34] <daftykins> gavin__: are you reading post number 3 on that ubuntuforums link?
[23:34] <schultza> I have a freshly installed Ubuntu 13.04 (guest on virtualbox) on Windows 7 HP. Windows 7 has the mouse working, but it is not working in the ubuntu vbox.
[23:34] <scottcs76> Multiple monitor setup, A small dell monitor, works fine. I have a larger lcd monitor at 1024x768. It shows 1360x768 available, but that appears to be out of range for this monitor. It usually runs at 1366x768 on windows.
[23:34] <daftykins> schultza: that's more a virtualbox question than an Ubuntu one i'm afraid
[23:34] <gavin__> daftykins: the reason i am still using ubuntu 10.10 is because the computer cant update it, even with using the terminal, the computer crashes and ends up with black screen
[23:34] <schultza> how!?
[23:34] <treehau55> schultza,  search for some guides that get the mouse working, thats not a ubuntu question, thats a Vbox question
[23:35] <holstein> schultza: i would apply uprades and make sure the vbox additions is installed.. i would make sure its not something simple with the focus of the VM as well
[23:35] <treehau55> I had the same problem a while back its something to do in the mouse settings
[23:35] <schultza> the mouse wheel doesnt work, but the mouse without the wheel works
[23:35] <schultza> sorry.. forgot to say wheel in that post
[23:35] <schultza> vbox additions are installed
[23:35] <holstein> schultza: you mean, its just the mouse wheel that is not working?
[23:35] <schultza> yes
[23:35] <newmember_> daftykins: thanks, it looks like I have to go to 12.04
[23:36] <Liverpudlian_Hac> Hello!
[23:36] <daftykins> newmember_: err who are you? :D
[23:36] <Liverpudlian_Hac> me?
[23:36] <gavin__> daftykins: yes I am currently trying to do it
[23:36] <gavin__> by reading what it says
[23:36] <holstein> schultza: have you searched for other users with the issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/152742/how-to-enable-mouse-wheel-in-virtualbox
[23:37] <scottcs76> Additional drivers has nvidia accelerated (post-release updates) (version current-updates) selected.
[23:37] <daftykins> gavin__: so you've run synaptic / software center ok?
[23:37] <schultza> yes... dconf-editior doesnt show the settings im looking for... and i really dont want to hold alt + something to scroll
[23:37] <BlackDalek> Is anyone here familiar with use of mercurial? In particular, how do I download a mercurial project from http://delx.net.au/hg/webdl ?
[23:37] <gavin__> daftykins: its telling me to write the code into the terminal
[23:37] <newmember_> holstein: thanks, it looks like I have to go back to 12.04
[23:38] <daftykins> gavin__: what is?
[23:38] <gavin__> daftykins: the link you've provided me is the code in the forum that someone posted
[23:38] <daftykins> gavin__: are you actually following post 4?
[23:39] <schultza> BlackDalek: hg clone [url]
[23:39] <Liverpudlian_Hac> wow last time i have use irc client was 10 years ago!
[23:40] <Liverpudlian_Hac> obviously still popular!
[23:40] <gavin__> daftykins: yes i am following it on but what if i do it though software centre? what do I need to type in?
[23:40] <Tapper> hey everyone! I have an app called My-Weather-Indicator, I just wanted to know what the command for it was so I can have it run on startup
[23:41] <daftykins> gavin__: the choice is to *either* follow post 3, or post 4. i'd go with post 4
[23:42] <BAMbanda> how do I copy all the contents of a folder and move them into another folder via command line?
[23:43] <griwesx> BAMbanda: "man cp"
[23:44] <gavin__> daftykins: I have just found the drivers by following post 4 but I have faced an issue, the web link havent got my model no for my wireless device
[23:44] <gavin__> daftykins: do I choose any of them?
[23:44] <schultza> really!? i need a 3rd party app for natural scrolling to happen!?
[23:45] <scottcs76> So does the system not use the xorg.conf in x11 at all? I don't understand where nvidia-settings is getting it's information from, or how to change it.
[23:45] <daftykins> scottcs76: it auto configures at boot
[23:45] <BAMbanda> griwesx, it mentions -r would take the folder and all its contents, but I don't want the folder, i just want the contents inside the folder and then I'll delete the flder
[23:45] <OerHeks> !xorgconf
[23:46] <daftykins> gavin__: if it's plugged in what does "lsusb" give? does it talk about realtek for the wireless device?
[23:46] <griwesx> BAMbanda: So do myfolder/* and not myfolder
[23:46] <OerHeks> BAMbanda, use mv move instead of copy
[23:47] <gavin__> daftykins: this is what it has given me: Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:3200 Dell Computer Corp. Mouse
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 413c:2003 Dell Computer Corp. Keyboard
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0cf3:7015 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[23:47] <FloodBot1> gavin__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <BAMbanda> ok thanks
[23:47] <griwesx> BAMbanda: If you dont want the folder, why not use mv?
[23:47] <Liverpudlian_Hac> exit
[23:48] <daftykins> gavin__: so which bit are you doing in post 4?
[23:48] <scottcs76> All I want to do is set a proper resolution on this monitor. For whatever reason, it gives me 1360x768 as an option, but I need 1366x768. The first one is not supported by my monitor. :(
[23:48] <gavin__> daftykins: the installation part, the first part of post 4 but somehow it hasn't listed my wifi adapter
[23:49] <gavin__> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5794038/
[23:49] <daftykins> gavin__: the first part of post 4 is 'sudo apt-get install...'
[23:49] <gavin__> ok
[23:49] <dr_willis> gavin__:  atheros is wifi i think
[23:49] <daftykins> dr_willis: it's almost like he came in asking for help installing a wireless device ;)
[23:49] <michael_p> hi
[23:50] <gavin__> dr_willis: my wifi card model is: TL-WN822N and it doesn't state it on the linux drivers site that daftykins provided me
[23:50] <michael_p> is there anything that can resume download
[23:50] <michael_p> without overwriting exsisting files
[23:50] <dr_willis> gavin__:  the chipset its using is more imporntant then the brand
[23:51] <dr_willis> michael_p:   wget
[23:51] <gavin__> dr willis: I don't know which chipset i should download
[23:51] <michael_p> wget -nc www.ok.com would that work
[23:51] <dr_willis> gavin__:  your output showed atheos
[23:52] <dr_willis> !atheros
[23:52] <griwesx> gavin__: It's an aetheros, http://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN821N_v3
[23:52] <gavin__> dr_willis: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc/devices
[23:52] <gavin__> dr_willis: which one would it be?
[23:52] <dr_willis> gavin__:  i bet they are in the repos.
[23:53] <griwesx> gavin__: the driver for it is in both our  links
[23:53] <dr_willis> !find ath9k
[23:53] <daftykins> gavin__: match the codes from your pastebin, 0x7015
[23:53] <daftykins> dr_willis: he's running 10.10
[23:53] <dr_willis> good luck then.
[23:53] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:54] <Theline> Hi I am new to Ubuntu as I intalo programs tar.bz2
[23:54] <daftykins> gavin__: it's the first TP-Link entry
[23:54] <BAMbanda> I installed the latest version of firefox, but the icon on my launcher in ubuntu still launches my older version, how do I replace it completely?
[23:54] <BAMbanda> my new firefox is extracted in my /Downloads folde
[23:54] <dr_willis> BAMbanda:  installed how
[23:54] <delac> does anyone know how to use ~/.gvfs/ location with gnome-search-tool?
[23:54] <BAMbanda> dr_willis, downloaded and extracted
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, Ubuntu has the newest within days of release
[23:54] <dr_willis> launch that one in the downloads dir
[23:54] <BAMbanda> wilee-nilee, but its outdated
[23:54] <dr_willis> you dident really install it
[23:54] <thiebaude> BAMbanda, drag the new firefox icon to thelauncher
[23:56] <Destep> Ok, so after some more fenangling, I got to a point where I can get to a login screen for the windows share I'm attempting to connect to...but the passwords don't seem to work...regardless of the username I use....
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, What ubuntu release are you runnng, and are you sure you did not download a beta, I have 21 from the repos, firefox from their site s the same.
[23:56] <gavin__> it redirected me to tp-link site
[23:56] <BAMbanda> wilee-nilee, im on 13.04
[23:57] <griwesx> BAMbanda: 13.04 has firefox 21 in the repo
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, what version is the one you had before and is it from the repos?
[23:57] <BAMbanda> hmm, that's weird
[23:57] <griwesx> BAMbanda: firefox updates itself now
[23:57] <daftykins> gavin__: download and install this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ath9k-htc/files/ath9k_htc-installer-Ubuntu%20Maverick%2010.10-fixed/
[23:57] <griwesx> BAMbanda: it might actually not be 21, but it will be after it autoupdates
[23:58] <BAMbanda> hmmm, interesting. OK
[23:58] <BAMbanda> makes sense to me! thanks
[23:58] <schultza> got that to pass to the guest machine, now the scroll is reversed... ugh


[15:30] <macvr> mpt: busy?
[15:32] <macvr> mpt: i assigned a couple of bugs that fell in the domain of the appcentre , for your design consideration , hope you dont mind
[19:49] <macvr> hi... does the desktop team/mailing list also involve in the usability issues of UNR? or can it be dealt with in ayatana?
[19:52] <SiDi> macvr: yeh
[19:52] <macvr> SiDi: yeah to which?
[19:52] <ScottK> macvr: I think desktop team is just Ubuntu.  I think you have to address UNR issue to the mobile team.
[19:53] <macvr> ScottK: ah... totally for that team! :)
[19:53] <macvr> thanx
[19:54] <macvr> for/forgot^


[09:15] <tjaalton> apw: drm-intel-next mainline builds are failing, there is no succeeded build available on the site
[09:15] <tjaalton> drm-tip seems fine


[04:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALda7d46b13dd7: Spellcheck desktop icons] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALda7d46b13dd7
[04:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL99c4fad4b756: Fix warning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL99c4fad4b756
[04:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL871e302b8313: Reword sentence on adding or removing groups] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL871e302b8313
[04:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2126f7863092: Remove execess whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2126f7863092
[05:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf083d4fdcd1a: Reword ARK summary] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf083d4fdcd1a
[15:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T120: Lubuntu 19.10 Beta Release] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120#2367
 <3 guiverc
 *drops a bag of flaming cat poo on @tsimonq2's porch*
 I wonder if Lugito could say something when the ISO QA tracker gets a new testing result, with the bug refs...
 wxl: you there?
 what do you want me to do with T59? Shortcuts?
 The only problem right now is that runner doesn't show up on it's own. if it's stopped and run again once after a user is logged in, it will work fine after that.
[18:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6192503c5bf6: Add automatically add extension checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6192503c5bf6
[18:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8acb01fe49f5: Style pause button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8acb01fe49f5
[19:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL81991ffd42e4: Add how to leave compact view] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL81991ffd42e4
[19:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd3888daf05c2: Add open URL] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd3888daf05c2
[19:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbbdfd155d726: Add Soruce field to transimission] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbbdfd155d726
[19:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL09e0f4e3e1a2: Add Destination Folder button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL09e0f4e3e1a2
[19:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8fc308dfdd86: Add Open button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8fc308dfdd86
[19:38] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker as i'm sure you saw above, i was trying to unravel the mechanism for how it works
[19:43] <wxl> it seems to me it might not be entirely deterministic, but maybe i'm wrong
[19:44] <wxl> if worse comes to worst, i guess we're going to have to add a startup script to restart runner ugh
 better than hacking away at evil
 that's an ugly workaround BUT
 :)
[20:11] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker dumb question: what if we didn't define runner at all in lxqt-globalkeys? now that we have the config for the right shortcut in runner, wouldn't that be all we needed?
[23:26] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: https://forum.lxqt.org/t/lxqt-session-and-autostarting-applications/892


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[22:30] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: Is there anything in particular that would cause the Broadcom drivers to not be available/not get installed on Edubuntu? I have Secure Boot disabled on my Broadcom laptop but the driver isn't activated when I check the box to install proprietary drivers, and the driver doesn't appear to be installed in the installed system.
[22:31] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: Probably not in the ship-live seed. Easy fix for tomorrow's run.
[22:31] <arraybolt3> I'll be filing a bug for it but I thought it might be useful to have a "mini bug report" now.
[22:31] <Eickmeyer> Nah, no need for a bug report.
[22:31] <arraybolt3> Nice.
[22:31] <arraybolt3> (Was just about to ask that.)
[22:33] <arraybolt3> I'm also having a bit of trouble with launching Geary (the email app on the Dash or whatever it's called) - trying to launch it with the button appears to fail silently or with an error message that vanishes too quickly to read, trying to launch it from the terminal gives "Error creating controller: No such secret collection at path: /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login".
[22:33] <arraybolt3> Last time, I was able to reboot the system and then it launched normally.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> I'd love to investigate that but Launchpad just went 500 on me.
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> Ope, nvm.
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: New geary in proposed, needed a rebuild against icu.
[22:35] <arraybolt3> Wow that was fast.
[22:35] <arraybolt3> Guess I'll test that on tomorrow's ISO too :D
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> Probably not, it's been sitting there since Feb 6.
[22:36] <arraybolt3> Oh.
[22:37] <Eickmeyer> It's blocked by webkit2gtk right now.
[22:37] <arraybolt3> Which has an autopkgtest failure and a bunch of riscv64 nonsense attached to it :-/
[22:37] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[22:38] <arraybolt3> Sigh. I kinda wish we had *not* started supporting RISCV until we had actual build hardware to support it with :P
[22:38] <arraybolt3> But whatever, we live with it.
[22:38] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I don't imagine geary is going to stay broken for long.


[18:26] <kus> what I don't get is why is spam such a big problem for Ubuntu? I've never heard locking down the English Wikipedia because of spam. I'm sure they would have more spam than we do?
[18:28] <kus> please take a look at the emaill I sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:24] <tsimonq2> kus: join #ubuntu-community-team and say the same thing, you will get a lot more coverage there :)
[21:08] <kus> tsimonq2, no cigar :S