[00:00] <SMonk> Can anyone help me out with a MBR problem
[00:00] <SMonk> ?
[00:00] <MementoMori> _Angelus_:
[00:00] <MementoMori> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMLDonkey?content=10015
[00:00] <vzduch> !ask | SMonk
[00:00] <ubotu> SMonk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:01] <SMonk> !ask
[00:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:03] <SMonk> Ok, I have an AMD machine, running a SATA HD 320gb, and a 150gb IDE HD.. Vista installed the MBR on the IDE for some dumb reason, and put the OS on the SATA, now when I went to put on Kubuntu 7.10 I think it must have erased the MBR for Vista and I can't seem to get it back.. any ideas?
[00:04] <vzduch> !vista
[00:04] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[00:04] <vzduch> lol
[00:04] <|dthacker|> SMonk: grab a rescue CD that will let you rebuild an MBR.  Google for such a beastie.
[00:04] <SMonk> lol
[00:04] <vzduch> I heard there are special precautions to be taken when dual-booting w/ Vista.. (which isn't desireable in itself anyway ;))
[00:05] <Dr_willis> hmm.. im not sure how to recover the vista mbr. :) i know with XP you can boot a xp cd an duse the fixmbr command
[00:05] <SMonk> I tried to use the rescue from the Vista CD it'self but it can't find my HD's now
[00:05] <Dr_willis> I unpluged my ide drive and let my vista install only go on the  SATA drive.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> then i pluged in the ide. for the linux install :)
[00:05] <SMonk> I know vista's crap.. the whole MS is crap.. but my wife needs it.. atleast I didn't pay for it.. lol
[00:06] <Dr_willis> Linux i think - should be able to boot the Windows Install from grub with the proper entry
[00:06] <Dresken> I remember reading a quote somewhere about vista..
[00:06] <SMonk> That's not a bad idea Dr
[00:06] <Dresken> "Best thing about vista is that even viruses have compatibility problems"
[00:06] <SMonk> LOL
[00:06] <Dr_willis> ive also kept both os's totally seperate and used the BIOS to boot what hd i wanted depending on what OS i wanted to boot to.
[00:06] <vzduch> SMonk: what applications forcibly need Vista?  I'd suggest you get a copy of XP and install that..
[00:07] <SMonk> it's so true... it's such a POS. everything crashes on it
[00:07] <Dresken> Yeah well other than gaming I'm pretty much done with windows..
[00:07] <Dresken> and for that I'll stick with XP
[00:07] <|dthacker|> Smonk:http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2585240
[00:08] <|dthacker|> may be helpful.
[00:09] <|dthacker|> no one here knows an answer to my question, and I just unsubscribed from the koffice list :)
[00:11] <acko88> |dthacker| what is your question ??
[00:11] <SMonk> Hmm... thanks hacker.. that might work
[00:11] <SMonk> i'll give it a shot
[00:12] <SMonk> later
[00:12] <vzduch> acko88: [00:59:09] < |dthacker|> Where can I change the program opened when I click a URL in kmail?
[00:12] <acko88> ima li ovde srba ili neko iz exYU ??
[00:13] <vzduch> !sr | acko88
[00:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:13] <vzduch> dayum
[00:13] <vzduch> anyway, this channel is English only
[00:13] <acko88> OK ;)
[00:13]  * Dresken tries reading what he wrote backwards
[00:14] <sam1337> Is it possible to format a new 500gb hdd with encrypted lvm, copy the files over from my current 200gb hdd, delete all the data from the 200gb hdd and then use the 200gb hdd to expand my /home partition onto both discs so I can store tons of games, songs and movies?
[00:15] <|dthacker|> acko88: where in kontact do I set the program that opens when you click a link in kmail?
[00:16] <sam1337> |dthacker|: that sounds like a question for #kde
[00:18] <sd32> is  there a requirements page for kubuntu?
[00:18] <Dry_Ice> i can't boot up my linux system...
[00:19] <sam1337> sd32: have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)#System_requirements
[00:19] <sd32> sam1337, thanks
[00:19] <Dry_Ice> kk
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> 500 MHz x86 processor <--2ghz
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> 192 MB of system memory (RAM) <--2gb
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> 8 GB of disk space (although only 4 GB is required) <--30gb
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> Graphics card capable of 1024x768 resolution <--have
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> Sound card (optional) <--have
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> A network or Internet connection <-- have
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> i don't know HOW to boot up my linux system :P
[00:22] <NickPresta> Dry_Ice, have you burnt the LiveCD?
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Dry_Ice,  you are on an APPLE machine correct?
[00:24] <sd32> i only have 128 meg and am still running,solw but running
[00:24] <sd32> *slow
[00:24] <Dry_Ice> i can't even get it up and running ;P
[00:24] <Dry_Ice> :P*
[00:24] <vip3rousmango> I'm running 7.04 KDE and I'm having issues burning anything (cd/dvd) with my DVD-RW Drive. Im using Nero Linux and all of the disks fail at the lead-out part. Anyone have any suggestions?
[00:25] <sd32> are you getting any error codes?
[00:25] <Dry_Ice> no...
[00:25] <vzduch> vip3rousmango: tried burning w/ K3b yet?
[00:25] <Dry_Ice> i don't know how to boot it
[00:25] <sd32> did you install?
[00:25] <acko88> i now runing 192MBram. 433mhz CPU 10GB HDD
[00:25] <iSeriesSysAdm> it's either the CD/Firmware
[00:25] <sd32> ahhh
[00:25] <iSeriesSysAdm> or move the CD to the other IDE
[00:25] <vip3rousmango> vzduch: no, never tryed the app. should i? better than nero?
[00:26] <vzduch> at least it's free
[00:26] <vzduch> in difference to Nero
[00:26] <iSeriesSysAdm> i would say it's better and light
[00:26] <sd32> you have to download the  disk image then burn it to a disk then run the disk
[00:26] <iSeriesSysAdm> lite
[00:26] <vip3rousmango> well nero linux is free...
[00:26] <vzduch> well, it might be free, but it's not free..
[00:26] <vzduch> ;)
[00:27] <vip3rousmango> Can K3b burn DVD-Rs as well? or is it only cd?
[00:27] <Dr_willis> nero linux was not free last i looked.
[00:27] <sd32> costly in time and frusrtration
[00:27] <vip3rousmango> ... i downloaded it for free fine.. right off the site
[00:28] <vzduch> my father has all kinds of issues w/ his burning software in Winblows.. K3b did everything flawlessly up to now
[00:28] <Dr_willis> all the reviews ive seen of  nero for linux say k3b beats it. :)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> k3b can burn dvd's
[00:28] <vip3rousmango> alrighty then, k3b it is
[00:28] <Dry_Ice> sd32: yes, i installed
[00:28] <Dry_Ice> sd32: to a partition on an external drive
[00:29] <sd32> dry ice, then what happens when you restart?
[00:29] <vzduch> Dry_Ice: then you need to point your BIOS to boot from that drive
[00:29] <sd32> ahhh
[00:29] <Dry_Ice> how?
[00:30] <Dry_Ice> vzduch: how would i do that?
[00:30] <vzduch> depends on your BIOS and its revision..
[00:30] <vzduch> better look for yourself
[00:30] <Dry_Ice> mac os x
[00:30] <vzduch> no idea about Mac BIOS..
[00:30] <Dry_Ice> i can't find any docs
[00:30] <vip3rousmango> yikes.. mac
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> shaddup :P
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> vip3rousmango,  he sort of dident mention that imporntant fact. :) and its to an external drive...
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  this is an external USB drive?
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> no
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> firewire...
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> well at ONE time there was some key ya held down on macs that made them boot off the external HDs
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> don't tell me there aren't any mac nerds in here...
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> but i dotn rember what the key is. or even if that still applies to the 'new' macs
[00:32] <Dry_Ice> that's for booting up to another hdd that has mac os...
[00:32] <Dry_Ice> its the 'option' key
[00:32] <Dry_Ice> nada shows up xcept my main drive
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> I do recall people saying that LILO was needed for the mac installs. not grub. But i have no experience with them.
[00:33] <Dry_Ice> where the heck do i get lilo?
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> !info lilo
[00:33] <Dry_Ice> !lilo
[00:33] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.8-3ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 355 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[00:33] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> I think you may be wanting to check the Ubuntu forums. They may have a section on the Mac.
[00:34] <Dry_Ice> kk, thx
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> of coruse booting off a external HD adds another layer of problems
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> !apple
[00:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> !mac
[00:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <Dry_Ice> interesting...
[00:35] <Dry_Ice> i get a bunch of stuff on lilo and stitch
[00:35] <Dry_Ice> !frusturation
[00:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frusturation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:35] <Dr_willis_> Lilo is the old linux boot loader. befor grub became common.
[00:35] <Dry_Ice> ic
[00:35] <Dr_willis_> Im not even sure that LILO can boot an external hd.
[00:36] <sam1337> With lilo you can place /boot into an lvm partition.
[00:36] <vzduch> used to be quite a pain to dual-boot w/ Lilo, at least for me
[00:36] <Dry_Ice> hmmm
[00:36] <Dry_Ice> we'll see if i can become a linux nerd...
[00:36] <posingaspopular> !ppc
[00:36] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[00:36] <vzduch> I found Grub to be an enormous relief in this respect
[00:37] <sam1337> What would happen if I tried to plugin a pci wireless card whilst kubuntu is running?
[00:37] <sd32> is there any need for having 512 meg in kubuntu?
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> Plugging in a PCI card with the Power on can = a dead pc.
[00:37] <Dry_Ice> !lilo
[00:37] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[00:37] <vzduch> sam1337: you don't plug PCI cards when the computer is running.  Period.
[00:37] <Dry_Ice> does anyone know where i can get lilo?
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  its a package you install...
[00:37] <sam1337> Dr_willis_: How would it die exactly?
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  of coruse you cant boot so you cant install it...
[00:38]  * Bugzilla is back.
[00:38] <Dr_willis_> sam1337,  electricty arching across conectors = bad idea.
[00:38] <Dry_Ice> Dr_willis_: i can boot up to a cd...
[00:38] <Dr_willis_> removing pci cards with power on = bad idea.
[00:38] <sam1337> Dr_willis_: Could I plugin a sata hdd whilst my pc is running?
[00:38] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  boot live cd. chroot over to the exteranal drive. install lilo then..  good luck. :) i bet theres other things needed as well.
[00:38] <NickPresta> I have a twinview setup. Is there any way to stop full screen applications, like games, from opening up in the middle of the screen (splitting the game in half)?
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> sam1337,  i wouldent reccomend it either.
[00:39] <morphine> howdy
[00:39] <Dry_Ice> where do i get the pkg?
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> sam1337,  sata is supposed to be hotplugable.. but not sure if that feature actually a reality yet.
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  the package name is lilo
[00:39] <morphinex> Get this crazy problem folks: when I do sudo ifup eth0 on my laptop, the screen blinks off and then on for a second
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> !info lilo
[00:39] <Dry_Ice> where do i get pkgs?
[00:39] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional.  :P
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> with the package manager, or use apt-get intall whatever
[00:39] <Dry_Ice> i've barely run kubuntu...
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> idk if i could do it :P
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  and you are trying some very 'out there' things.....
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  yep. thats an issue.
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> hmmm
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> mebbe i should go w/ gentoo XF
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> gentoo will need a lot of reading also i imagine. :)
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> i know...
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> and has its own sets of quirks/problems
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> i know...
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> that's why i didnt get it...
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> <.<
[00:41] <Dr_willis_> there may be some guide in the forums that tell you exactly how to boot a mac/install to external drive
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> i'll ask labrats...
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> http://labrats.tv
[00:41] <Dr_willis_> SOme times ya just got to go out there and start reading.. :)
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> ...
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> !forums
[00:42] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[00:42] <Dr_willis_> dont expect a magical 1 click answer either. :)
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> i know...
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> i don't mind messing around with my inner workings...i just want to know exactly what i'm supposed to do...
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> ok...here goes...
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> bbl
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> i'm gonna try this thing...
[00:45] <sgumiel> holaaa
[00:46] <sgumiel> hello
[00:46] <sgumiel> i have a problem...can someone help me?
[00:46] <vzduch> perhaps if you tell us your problem..
[00:47] <sgumiel> im new in kubuntu.............:s
[00:47] <sam1337> lol
[00:47] <sgumiel> and i dont know do anything :p
[00:47] <vzduch> my crystal ball is away for maintenance.. :P
[00:47] <sgumiel> how i can to instal msn or gaim
[00:47] <sgumiel> i have downloaded it....but i dont know what i have to do now
[00:47] <vzduch> open Adept Manager or Synaptic and browse the available software
[00:47] <bazhang> !info pidgin
[00:47] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[00:48] <sgumiel> msn is descompressed......
[00:48] <sgumiel> i dont know use adept
[00:48] <vzduch> sgumiel: under normal circumstances there is no need to download _anything_ besides the packages that the package manager installs
[00:48] <sgumiel> i opened it....but i dont know what yo do
[00:48] <bazhang> sgumiel: gaim is now called pidgin; you can install it either via adept or the command line
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> The package manager should download/install the thing. You dont need to manually download stuff and 'click' on the package. :)
[00:49] <Kr4t05> Guh...
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> 'sudo apt-get install pidgin'
[00:49] <sgumiel> can u tu say me how install it command laine
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> for the command line addicts
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> Logical :)
[00:49] <bazhang> sgumiel: he just did
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> bazhang,  my ESP skill are sharp today
[00:49] <sgumiel> piding is not found :s
[00:50] <Kr4t05> Anyone have any insight about getting an Xbox 360-type USB gamepad working in Gutsy? I've tried to compile the xpad module from a thread in the forums, but it doesn't seem to work.
[00:50] <bazhang> Dr_willis_: they always are :}
[00:50] <vzduch> sgumiel: do a 'sudo apt-get update' first
[00:50] <Dr_willis_> bazhang,  now i got to go for a drive.. of about 3 hrs.... :(
[00:50] <Dr_willis_> well bye all
[00:50] <acko88> sgumiel you have a kopete ???
[00:50] <sgumiel> oki
[00:50] <sgumiel> is tru
[00:50] <sam1337> Can some usb games consoles controllers really work on linux?
[00:51] <sgumiel> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
[00:51] <sgumiel> doesnt work ...sorry
[00:51] <soulrider> yes they can
[00:51] <bazhang> Kr4t05: it's not recognized out of the box?
[00:51] <sgumiel> command line
[00:51] <soulrider> i know theres an xbox driver in the kenrel
[00:51] <sgumiel> sudo apt-get update
[00:51] <soulrider> dont know if in the ubuntu kernel though
[00:51] <sgumiel> and after sudo apt-get install pidding
[00:51] <vzduch> sgumiel: I suggest you use the correct spelling :P
[00:52] <bazhang> sgumiel: that's pidgin
[00:52] <vzduch> it's pidgin, not pidding
[00:52] <sgumiel> pidgin
[00:52] <Kr4t05> bazhang: It's a logitech chillstream, and, no, it doesn't show up in /dev/ or /dev/input/
[00:52] <sgumiel> yeah i wrote bad here:p
[00:52] <anton__> Any good program to "film" the screen? Like fraps in windows...
[00:53] <sgumiel> sudo apt-get install pidgin   in command line and   the package pidgin is not found
[00:53] <bazhang> libxbox0 - Shared library for Xbox Linux utilities Kr4t05
[00:53] <Kr4t05> ba
[00:53] <Dr_willis> sgumiel,  you are using Gutsy Kubuntu versiomn 7.10 ?
[00:53] <anton__> sgumiel: get it through add/remove programs?
[00:53] <sgumiel> yeah i use it
[00:53] <Kr4t05> bazhang: It's not an original Xbox controller, but a 360-style version. I believe there is a difference, but I could be wrong.
[00:54] <sgumiel> and hiw i get it there...
[00:54] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pidgin   worked here
[00:54] <sgumiel> there is a gajim...(instant  messenger
[00:54] <bazhang> Kr4t05: ok, I know that my ps2 and nintendo controllers (usb) work fine, so that should as well
[00:54] <Nyle> konqueror doesn't start when I click the icons or the menu entries.  I tried to launch it from konsole command line, but it didn't start, and didn't give me any error messages, just sat there for a very long time
[00:54] <sgumiel> but it is disabled
[00:55] <Nyle> I need konqueror back in my life, please help
[00:55] <Nyle> I try ps x and I don't see it running
[00:55] <Nyle> ever
[00:55] <vzduch> Nyle: try if a reboot fixes it
[00:56] <Nyle> oh wait wati, I did restart
[00:56] <sgumiel> ppffffffff
[00:56] <Nyle> now after a restart it didn't work and i came here
[00:56] <sgumiel> im not linuxer :(
[00:56] <Nyle> I just now launched it from konsole again and I got this message
[00:56] <Nyle> ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.8/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)
[00:57] <Nyle> do I have to change my icons?
[00:57] <Nyle> about the message, it just sits there and doesn't do anything
[00:58] <anton__> Any good program to "film" the screen? Like fraps in windows...
[00:58] <Tm_T> Nyle: install kdebase-dbg
[00:58] <Nyle> hey dude Tm_T that wants me to download 150+mb of packages
[00:59] <Nyle> half hour download
[00:59] <Tm_T> and?
[00:59] <Nyle> oh nothing
[00:59] <Tm_T> without it your console output is usually worthless ;)
[00:59] <Nyle> I see
[00:59] <Nyle> oh dbg is debug
[00:59] <Tm_T> yes
[00:59] <bazhang> anton__: byzanz or istanbul
[00:59] <anton__> bazhang: Thanks!
[01:00] <anton__> bazhang: Did you get my pm?
[01:00] <Nyle> well I tried to change my icons and now my icon changing window is stuck and blank
[01:00] <Nyle> icons changed though
[01:00] <bazhang> anton__: no
[01:01] <sgumiel> someone can help me¿?
[01:01] <Nyle> I mean I have 2 gb ram, I just rebooted the system, I have a 512mb swap file which is never used (which is why i don't have a swap partition)
[01:01] <Nyle> so that isn't a problem
[01:02] <Tm_T> sgumiel: help in what? "help me" doesnt get you help
[01:02] <Tm_T> k: stop
[01:02] <sgumiel> i dont know how to instal pidgin ....
[01:02] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[01:02] <sgumiel> people said me sudo apt-get update
[01:02] <bazhang> g'night
[01:03] <sgumiel> and after sudo apt-get install pidgin ....but it doestn world
[01:03] <sgumiel> work**
[01:03] <bazhang> sgumiel: you need to be patient--and let people help you.
[01:04] <sgumiel> yeah! i am waiting
[01:04] <Nyle> sgumiel: what doesn't work?
[01:04] <sgumiel> the command say me that pidgin is not found :s
[01:04] <Nyle> sgumiel: hmm
[01:04] <bazhang> he can't get pdigin or msn
[01:04] <sgumiel> i think u download it with update...
[01:04] <Nyle> !info pidgin
[01:04] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[01:04] <bazhang> err pidgin
[01:04] <Tm_T> sgumiel: Gutsy?
[01:04] <sgumiel> yeah
[01:05] <vincent_> I wonder if it's necessary to change dpi value... I have dpi of 99x98 on a 20inch lcd. advice.
[01:05] <dario> buenas
[01:06] <sgumiel> buenas
[01:06] <sgumiel> ablas español?
[01:06] <Nyle> that number is ridiculous
[01:06] <Nyle> you can't possibly have a dpi of 99x98
[01:06] <bazhang> !es sgumiel
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es sgumiel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <dario> si
[01:06] <Tm_T> !es | dario
[01:06] <ubotu> dario: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[01:06] <bazhang> ugh
[01:06] <Tm_T> bazhang: learn ;)
[01:07] <bazhang> I know, but fingers refuse--denied!
[01:07] <_Angelus_> what is this error
[01:07] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$ Opt/Epsxe/epsxe
[01:07] <_Angelus_> Opt/Epsxe/epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:07] <vincent_> Nyle: everything looks fine on my screen. alot of people have that dpi set google it :p
[01:08] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: you need libgtk atleast
[01:08] <sgumiel> dario tu sabes como instalar el gaim o el msn en el kubuntu
[01:08] <_Angelus_> i have it Tm_T
[01:08] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: right version?
[01:08] <posingaspopular> !it
[01:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:08] <posingaspopular> oh wait..
[01:08] <posingaspopular> !es
[01:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[01:09] <bazhang> :}
[01:09] <Tm_T> posingaspopular: come on, no need to repeat
[01:09] <_Angelus_> yeah Tm_T
[01:09] <sgumiel> im sorry
[01:09] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: then binary youre using doesnt just find it
[01:09] <Kr4t05> Hrm///
[01:09] <_Angelus_> Tm_T:
[01:10] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$ ldd Opt/Epsxe/epsxe
[01:10] <_Angelus_>         not a dynamic executable
[01:10] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: and?
[01:10] <_Angelus_> i dunno someone told me to do that
[01:10] <_Angelus_> does it mean it cannot find libraries or something
[01:11] <_Angelus_> btw this a pre-compiled executable
[01:11] <Tm_T> yes I know it is that :)
[01:11] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: where did you find that binary? does it have installing instructions? are there Ubuntu packaged replacement?
[01:12] <_Angelus_> no there isn't
[01:12] <_Angelus_> its a playstation emulator
[01:12] <Tm_T> I see
[01:12] <Tm_T> well, I have no idea about how that binary was compiled
[01:12] <Tm_T> so hard to help
[01:12] <_Angelus_> i see
[01:13] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Do you have the libgtk1.2 package installed?
[01:14] <_Angelus_> yes
[01:15] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Did you try making a symbolic link?
[01:15] <_Angelus_> no
[01:15] <_Angelus_> how can i do it?
[01:15] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Sorry, never mind. Didn't notice it's even named the same
[01:16] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Forget it, my bad
[01:16] <_Angelus_> could it be because im using a 64bit OS
[01:16] <_Angelus_> and the prog is 32bit
[01:16] <_Angelus_> ?
[01:16] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: I can only guess at this point
[01:17] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: not only that, there's lots of other things
[01:17] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: How about trying PCSX?
[01:17] <_Angelus_> tried it
[01:17] <_Angelus_> but it didn't have the plugin to run directly from cd
[01:17] <_Angelus_> it had only the one to run from ISO
[01:18] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Just a sec...
[01:18] <_Angelus_> ok
[01:18] <Tm_T> sgumiel: you're there?
[01:19] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: I'm sorry again. Didn't find anything. CDR Mooby is the plugin you used?
[01:20] <_Angelus_> yeah
[01:21] <_Angelus_> which loads only from ISO
[01:21] <_Angelus_> also, Kubuntu Feisty had a PSX or PCSX package
[01:21] <_Angelus_> which it got removed on gutsy
[01:21] <_Angelus_> i wonder why
[01:21] <_Angelus_> or maybe it's because im using the 64bit version
[01:22] <RogueJediX> Probably. I have a 32-bit processor and I can see it in the repos
[01:22] <_Angelus_> you're using gutsy?
[01:22] <RogueJediX> Yes
[01:22] <_Angelus_> if yes, then thats the reason
[01:22] <_Angelus_> hehe
[01:23] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Oh, yeah. There's actually another emulator you can try
[01:23] <_Angelus_> which one
[01:24] <atlfalcons866> is kde 4 in hardy
[01:24] <Tm_T> atlfalcons866: by default? no
[01:24] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com/
[01:24] <midnightmaniac> Hi all :)
[01:24] <atlfalcons866> why
[01:25] <Tm_T> atlfalcons866: wont be stable enough for LTS release
[01:25] <atlfalcons866> so hardy kde is going to be like gutsy then?
[01:25] <Tm_T> umm no
[01:26] <roomulo> hello, there
[01:27] <roomulo> how to set konqueror as default file explorer on gutsy?
[01:27] <Tm_T> atlfalcons866: ofcourse KDE3 is still moving train
[01:27] <atlfalcons866> roomulo: remove dolphin
[01:28] <roomulo> atlfalcon866: just remove?
[01:29] <atlfalcons866> roomulo: thats the only way i know how
[01:29] <atlfalcons866> roomulo: sudo apt-get remove dolphin
[01:29] <Jucato> ???
[01:29] <Jucato> !d3lphin
[01:29] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[01:30] <_Angelus_> RogueJediX:
[01:30] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$ Opt/pSX/pSX
[01:30] <_Angelus_> Opt/pSX/pSX: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:30] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$
[01:30] <atlfalcons866> !Konqueror
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <biovore> _Angelus_: thats because you need libgtkglext
[01:30] <_Angelus_> i installed it
[01:30] <_Angelus_> :o
[01:30] <biovore> you sure you got the right one?
[01:31] <biovore> might have the wrong version of the lib..
[01:31] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Installed what? libgtkglext1?
[01:31] <_Angelus_> yes RogueJediX
[01:33] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Well, I'm out of ideas then. ePSXe, PCSX and epSX are about the only three Linux Playstation emulators I'm aware of
[01:34] <_Angelus_> pcsx is the only one that worked
[01:34] <Jucato> !info epsxe
[01:34] <ubotu> Package epsxe does not exist in gutsy
[01:34] <RogueJediX> Sorry, epSX = pSX
[01:34] <roomulo> atlfalcons866: i followed the ubotu sugestion and worked
[01:34] <Jucato> er... it was there before :/
[01:34] <roomulo> atlfalcons866: thank you
[01:34] <atlfalcons866> thank Jucato
[01:34] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: How about ripping the CD and running it through Mooby?
[01:35] <Jucato> !info pcsx
[01:35] <ubotu> pcsx: Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.699df-rc3-1 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:36] <_Angelus_> yeah
[01:36] <_Angelus_> thats what i want
[01:37] <Jucato> just install it through Adept or apt-get?
[01:38] <wesley> with wich app i need to lauch when taking screenshots with the shortcut from compiz fusion
[01:38] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Right, then run K3B, click CD copy and when the windows pops up, check "Only create image"
[01:38] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Also, don't forget to click the Image tab and set the directory where you want your image ripped to
[01:38] <hero> i <3 kubuntu
[01:38] <_Angelus_> i know man
[01:38] <bazhang> wesley: you need to look at the key bindings in the settings manager
[01:38] <_Angelus_> but its not worth making an image of every cd
[01:38] <_Angelus_> lol
[01:42] <profoX`> wesley: hey where are you from? :P
[01:43] <profoX`> wesley: in compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm) for the screenshot application you can put ksnapshot if that's what you mean
[01:45] <kwtm_> Oh my god, I accidentally left this IRC program running for the past 6 hours, and bazhang is *still* here!!
[01:45] <kwtm_> Okay, I better go.  Bye, all!
[01:45] <bazhang> kwtm_: I'm always here.. :}
[01:46] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Sorry, but I honestly can't think of another way
[01:47] <Jucato> bazhang: and you ask me if I ever sleep? :)
[01:47] <wesley> i am from the netherlands
[01:47] <bazhang> Jucato: I'm trying to follow in your footsteps :}
[01:48] <Jucato> lol
[01:48] <bazhang> glad to see you finally got some downtime
[01:48] <RogueJediX> I'm off to bed, bye
[01:49] <Max-P> Who know how to disable the Power Manager ?(Because I am using KLaptop)
[01:52] <efektz> anyone here that can help me with kubuntu
[01:52] <MasterShrek> efektz, probably, this IS #kubuntu
[01:53] <efektz> so i take that as a yes....
[01:53] <Jucato> !anyone
[01:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:53] <efektz> well lately i been getting a bit scared.....im unable of blocking people on AIM with kopeto or pidgin , is there any suggestions ? maybe another aim that actually blocks stranges
[01:54] <MasterShrek> efektz, thats not necessarily a kubuntu question, id ask in #pidgin, but im not exactly sure myself, i dont really block people
[02:06] <anto_> hola alguien que quiera hablar con migo?
[02:06] <biovore> !es
[02:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:08] <toxop1asma> i have a noob question about hardware
[02:08] <toxop1asma> does video card matter for much other than games?
[02:09] <bazhang> 3d effects if you like them
[02:09] <toxop1asma> what about 2d stuff, like dvds and hdtv?
[02:09] <bazhang> what card do you have?
[02:09] <toxop1asma> i have a geforce2, 64m.
[02:10] <bazhang> more than sufficient
[02:10] <toxop1asma> thanks!
[02:10] <bazhang> no problem!
[02:10] <toxop1asma> and just out of curiosity, would it be any good for compiz or such?
[02:11] <bazhang> toxop1asma: I got compiz going on a 7 year old ati 340M card.. bit sluggish, but worked
[02:12] <profoX`> actually, hdtv might be a problem I think :P
[02:12] <bazhang> really?
[02:12] <bazhang> 740p or 1080?
[02:12] <_Rukus> is there XGL/Compiz for Gutsy? i'm fairly new to kubuntu, and i cannot seem to find if there is a solid way to make that work
[02:12] <bazhang> or is that 720?
[02:13] <profoX`> bazhang: well, i'm not sure, but I tried to run 1080p with video acceleration on my geforce 3 once and it worked, but it wasn't really smooth
[02:13] <_Rukus> 720
[02:13] <bazhang> thanks _Rukus
[02:13] <_Rukus> np
[02:13] <bazhang> and yes of course there is compiz-fusion
[02:13] <profoX`> bazhang: I could make it smoother with some mplayer-fu fiddling, but then the quality was weirder :)
[02:13] <toxop1asma> profoX`: are you sure that was due to the card, though?
[02:13] <bazhang> it's what we live for :}
[02:14] <_Rukus> i think i need a walkthrough if there is one
[02:14] <_Rukus> to make it work
[02:14] <profoX`> toxop1asma: ah, well, it was a while ago, I can test it again on my Intel graphics Card if you want :P all in all it should be a bit faster than a geforce 2 i think
[02:14] <bazhang> _Rukus: it's right here
[02:14] <_Rukus> ?
[02:14] <bazhang> can you use the terminal _Rukus?
[02:14] <_Rukus> did i come at the right time?
[02:14] <profoX`> _Rukus: hold on. Xgl is probably not what you want. which graphics card do you have
[02:14] <_Rukus> yah
[02:14] <_Rukus> ATI 200m
[02:14] <_Rukus> lappy
[02:15] <profoX`> Xgl is almost not needed anymore (actually, it isn't needed anymore for any card nowadays) AIGLX is the future
[02:15] <profoX`> I'm not sure whether the new fglrx driver is already in Gutsy (it has AIGLX support)
[02:15] <profoX`> but otherwise, you have to whitelist the fglrx driver and install xserver-xgl
[02:15] <_Rukus> i also run 64bit (which i found can be tricky at times)
[02:15] <bazhang> _Rukus: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde emerald
[02:15] <profoX`> but that's just a temporary thing
[02:15] <profoX`> in the future it'll be nicer
[02:15] <_Rukus> ugh i cant listen to so many people at the same time
[02:15] <_Rukus> lol
[02:16] <profoX`> when the AIGLX driver is in Hardy or something
[02:16] <_Rukus> i dont know what is right and what is wrong
[02:16] <profoX`> yea it's confusing, and we're talking about different things :P
[02:16] <bazhang> hahaha you listen you hear things?
[02:16] <_Rukus> same sh*t man
[02:16] <_Rukus> lol
[02:16] <profoX`> wait, long story short
[02:16] <profoX`> did you already install the fglrx driver ?
[02:16] <toxop1asma> profoX`: thanks, but i'm probably not worth the trouble. how does one look for a good 2d video card, though? all the benchmarks concentrate on games
[02:16] <profoX`> (the proprietary graphics card driver?)
[02:16] <_Rukus> this is my setup  Amd 3200+ 64bit with xpress200m notebook
[02:17] <_Rukus> i dont know
[02:17] <profoX`> toxop1asma: I have no idea.. my intel graphics card can do 3d you know ;) it's just not meant for high-performance games, but I occasionally play openarena and stuff
[02:17] <toxop1asma> a
[02:17] <toxop1asma> err. wrong finger placement :/
[02:18] <profoX`> :P
[02:18] <_Rukus> can i install it using my Adept Manager? is that fine?
[02:18] <_Rukus> i found it in there not installed
[02:18] <toxop1asma> profoX`: what card is it? i didn't even know Intel made cards. i thought they only did onboard video (for which there are good drivers)
[02:18] <profoX`> toxop1asma: well it IS an on board video card
[02:18] <profoX`> toxop1asma: nevertheless it still is a graphics card :P
[02:19] <_Rukus> !!
[02:19] <profoX`> it works remarkably well for most things
[02:19] <_Rukus> i wish i knew what to do haha
[02:19] <toxop1asma> oh. in that case i didn't know they were called cards :p i stopped worrying about this stuff a long time ago, but now my hardware is getting crusty
[02:20] <profoX`> _Rukus: yea well.. it's a bit complicated with AMD/ATI.. you have several different solutions to get that "3D compiz stuff" running.. both have advantages and disadvantages..
[02:20] <profoX`> for now I'd just go with Xgl.. when Hardy Heron (the next Kubuntu release) is here you'll probably want to use AIGLX though
[02:20] <profoX`> but first check whether your graphics driver is installed correctly
[02:21] <_Rukus> guhhh
[02:21] <profoX`> what does "fglrxinfo" give you in a terminal window? (k menu - system - terminal/konsole)
[02:21] <_Rukus> i am nna take this all as new information as i research
[02:21] <_Rukus> nothing too hasty for now
[02:21] <bazhang> we'll be here haha
[02:22] <_Rukus> lol tells me to install spoken of driver
[02:22] <_Rukus> lol thanks bazhang
[02:22] <profoX`> nyea I think the ubuntu guys made a rash decision by enabling compiz by default through AIGLX in gutsy
[02:22] <_Rukus> i'm gonna install it
[02:22] <profoX`> of course it's nice and all, but right now it has some serious limitations that aren't worked out yet
[02:23] <profoX`> (although upstream X.org and compiz are actively working on it, should all work really nice in Hardy Heron)
[02:23] <_Rukus> ive come across some annoyances so far, like the k-menu and kopete
[02:23] <profoX`> _Rukus: whats wrong with the K-menu? I myself use Kick-off because the K-menu is so "old" :)
[02:23] <profoX`> kickoff is pretty nice
[02:23] <profoX`> only the point-and-activate is a bit annoying sometimes.. not sure how to disable that
[02:24] <_Rukus> it has _entries :k-menu  before everything
[02:24] <profoX`> _Rukus: huh???
[02:24] <_Rukus> i'm new so i use whats there
[02:24] <_Rukus> serious
[02:24] <_Rukus> one sec
[02:24] <profoX`> _Rukus: that's pretty strange :P
[02:24] <profoX`> shouldn't be there
[02:24] <_Rukus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/135084
[02:24] <_Rukus> theres the big reference. started reading a bit. its not a big deal, i "fixed" it but i dont get a description now, i just see program names
[02:25] <_Rukus> i changed it to say "name only" in menu
[02:25] <profoX`> thats nasty but they explain a workaround to fix it in the comments
[02:25] <_Rukus> ok i installed the driver now
[02:25] <_Rukus> do i need to reboot now?
[02:26] <profoX`> _Rukus: not necessarily, this is not windows, but because it's a proprietary driver it's best if you do restart to be sure
[02:26] <_Rukus> ok
[02:26] <profoX`> although an X restart would probably suffice
[02:26] <profoX`> :)
[02:26] <_Rukus> one sec
[02:26] <_Rukus> how do i do that
[02:26] <_Rukus> the most terminal and commads i ever used were in my irc shell
[02:27] <_Rukus> lol
[02:27] <profoX`> _Rukus: uhm, well, close your open applications and press ctrl+alt+delete, that's the quick way :P remember: the whoole graphical environment will restart so save changes first
[02:27] <bazhang> kbfx--much nicer
[02:27] <profoX`> i prefer kickoff over kbfx
[02:27] <bazhang> kickoff is very nice too :}
[02:27] <profoX`> :-)
[02:28] <sMonk> I need some help.. I don't know if I f'd things up good now or not.. I have 2 hd's.. a ide and a Sata, Vista was installed on the Sata but the MBR was put on the IDE (i don't know why vista just does that) now after a while, I tried to install Kubuntu 7.1 and grub erased the MBR and put it's own in.. vista will not boot (all my wedding photos are on there inc other photos, resumes.. etc) I have tried putting in the Vista install
[02:28] <sMonk> dvd, and it does not see any hard drives and wants me to install drivers from the disk (wich I cannot find them) I have tried everything, for a while Kubuntu was showing the vista HD but would not mount it.. now it is not showing just the IDE is. Please I need some help.. I have searched every last forum I can think of.
[02:28] <profoX`> i hope that lancelot and raptor thing in KDE 4 will be in 4.0 or 4.1 and work :) those look real nice
[02:28] <froggles> hi
[02:28] <profoX`> as a menu replacement
[02:28] <froggles> it appears that ssh times out faster than other implementations of ssh clients (putty).
[02:29] <bazhang> they sure do--raptor especially
[02:29] <_Rukus> i accidentally did that too sMonk.  i said "meh", enable ntfs-3g supprt hooked up my external USB sata drive to my laptop and transferred the partition to my external usb drive
[02:29] <profoX`> sMonk: auch, that sounds scary.. can you open up a terminal window (like Konsole)? K menu - system - terminal/konsole if I'm not mistaken
[02:29] <bazhang> sMonk: which is the internal kubuntu or other?
[02:29] <profoX`> sMonk: type "sudo fdisk -l" and copy/paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:29] <_Angelus_> is it posible to use kubuntu without a drive at all
[02:29] <_Angelus_> ?
[02:30] <sMonk> both are internal drives..
[02:30] <bazhang> _Angelus_: hard drive cd drive
[02:30] <sMonk> yeah, I'm in Kubuntu right now, I can get consol etc
[02:30] <_Rukus> do u have an external hard drive?
[02:30] <sMonk> no
[02:30] <_Rukus> maybe you could atleast do what i did
[02:30] <profoX`> _Angelus_: you'll need something to have the data on :P
[02:30] <_Rukus> or install ntfs-3g into your distro
[02:30] <_Angelus_> i know
[02:30] <_Rukus> and it gives you ntfs access
[02:30] <_Angelus_> its just a test
[02:30] <profoX`> _Angelus_: so you'll probably atleast want a hard disk drive or something
[02:30] <_Angelus_> because a friend booted gentoo without a drive
[02:31] <bazhang> pendrivelinux dot com :}
[02:31] <_Angelus_> and he told me, try booting kubuntu without a drive
[02:31] <profoX`> _Angelus_: well, what do you mean "without a drive"? without a hard drive?
[02:31] <_Angelus_> yeah
[02:31] <profoX`> bazhang: yea but then the question is.. is a pendrive a drive? :P
[02:31] <profoX`> you can boot ubuntu from a usb stick yes
[02:31] <_Angelus_> no drives., just ram and network
[02:32] <_Angelus_> networked to another box
[02:32] <profoX`> _Angelus_: that might be possible if the computers supports booting over the net
[02:32] <bazhang> profoX`: with casper rw then probably yes though no video compositing I'm guessing
[02:32] <sMonk> OK ProfoX I posted that text you want
[02:32] <profoX`> _Angelus_: i never tried it though
[02:32] <profoX`> sMonk: okay, can you give me the link?
[02:32] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43364/
[02:32] <profoX`> sMonk: thanks
[02:33] <profoX`> sMonk: sda1 seems to be your windows partition
[02:33] <Rukus> u can liveboot
[02:33] <profoX`> sMonk: but something seems to be wrong with the partition table on that drive
[02:34] <profoX`> Rukus: are you _Rukus from a while ago?
[02:34] <Rukus> yes
[02:34] <Rukus> sorry
[02:34] <Rukus> u mean like moments ago right
[02:34] <sMonk> yeah, like I was saying, for some reason when I installed vista it put the mBR on the IDE drive, but put all the program on the Sata (leaving no mbr sector)
[02:35] <sMonk> now that the mbr is gone, and it's now ext3 and windows cant see that, it's all f'd up
[02:35] <Rukus> i'm on my windows XP machine that i use for satellite TV and DVD's and music and movies etc
[02:35] <Rukus> haha
[02:35] <sMonk> in a nutshell
[02:36] <profoX`> sMonk: try sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[02:36] <profoX`> Rukus: yea my English is a little broken :P
[02:36] <profoX`> Rukus: I'm no native speaker
[02:36] <profoX`> ..or typer
[02:36] <bazhang> I;m not a native typer :}
[02:36] <Rukus> lol its ok, i understood u well enough
[02:36] <profoX`> Rukus: does fglrxinfo work now?
[02:36] <bazhang> err I'm
[02:36] <Rukus> one sec just rebooted
[02:37] <Kr4t05> Has anyone else been successful in getting a wired Logitech Chillstream to work in Gutsy?
[02:37] <profoX`> sMonk: sorry I meant: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[02:37] <profoX`> s instread of h
[02:37] <profoX`> Kr4t05: whats that for a thing?
[02:37] <profoX`> a chillstream
[02:37] <profoX`> sounds neat
[02:38] <Kr4t05> profoX`: It's a gamepad.
[02:38] <sMonk> ProfoX.. here is the new msg   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43367/
[02:38] <_Rukus> hey
[02:38] <sMonk> oops
[02:38] <sMonk> hold on
[02:38] <_Rukus> no
[02:38] <_Rukus> it never worked
[02:39] <_Rukus> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:39] <profoX`> sMonk: you might want to try to type the letter "w" and then Enter to try and fix the partition table
[02:39] <_Rukus> couple more errors, i'll paste if relevant
[02:39] <profoX`> sMonk: I'm not sure it'll work though
[02:39] <sMonk> hold on here you go    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43368/
[02:39] <profoX`> _Rukus: I don't think they are relevant.. did you try 'fglrx' as a regular user?
[02:40] <Rukus> i terminaled as root
[02:40] <profoX`> Rukus: well, don't :)
[02:40] <profoX`> it's not needed
[02:40] <Kr4t05> So, anyone got any clues?
[02:40] <Rukus> oh
[02:40] <Rukus> worked now
[02:40] <profoX`> (and you'd have to give root permission to access X with xhost if you really wanted it like that)
[02:40] <Rukus> came back with some info about opengl
[02:41] <profoX`> okay that sounds like it's good
[02:41] <Rukus> now...
[02:41] <Rukus> whats my next step in getting that compiz workin
[02:41] <profoX`> Rukus: then for now (for 6 months atleast, the next ubuntu version i would do it a different way :P)
[02:41] <profoX`> I'd install xserver-xgl
[02:41] <profoX`> you can via adept if you want, but
[02:41] <profoX`> a terminal types faster :)
[02:42] <juan> hi! does anyone know how to enable voice chat with kopete?
[02:42] <profoX`> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:43] <sMonk> ProfoX - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43368/   that's what I get when I try to fdisk sda
[02:43] <Rukus> ok thjanks dude
[02:43] <profoX`> sMonk: okay, just type "w" and enter
[02:43] <profoX`> sMonk: and then show me a new output of "sudo fdisk -l" again
[02:43] <Rukus_> there
[02:44] <profoX`> Rukus, Rukus_: you're dubble?
[02:44] <profoX`> :P
[02:44] <Rukus> this is for me
[02:44] <Rukus> sorry
[02:44] <profoX`> double*
[02:44] <Rukus> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:44] <Rukus> get it over to my other pc
[02:44] <Rukus> lol
[02:44] <Rukus> copy/paste
[02:44] <profoX`> lol ok
[02:44] <Dry_Ice> does anyone know how to boot linux off an external drive for mac?
[02:44] <profoX`> yea that command should download and install the necessary stuff for compiz through Xgl
[02:44] <sMonk> ProfoX - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43369/
[02:44] <toxop1asma> another question: it's pretty much universally agreed now that one should buy nvidia over ati for linux, right?
[02:44] <profoX`> toxop1asma: it wàs
[02:45] <profoX`> toxop1asma: right now I'm not sure what the future holds
[02:45] <Rukus_> dubble?
[02:45] <Rukus_> oh ahha
[02:45] <profoX`> since AMD took over ATI the fglrx driver has seen very good improvements
[02:45] <Rukus_> its easier to copy and paste like i said
[02:45] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: try ubuntugeek dot com
[02:45] <Rukus_> lol
[02:45] <profoX`> so I don't know :) I think AMD might become a good alternative to nvidia
[02:45] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: thanks
[02:45] <profoX`> AMD/ATI that is
[02:45] <toxop1asma> ahh. nothing is ever simple
[02:45] <profoX`> right now I'd say nvidia is still a better choice in most cases
[02:45] <profoX`> or intel if you don't need the fastest graphics
[02:46] <Rukus_> i always paired nvidia with amd haha. when i saw amd with ati, i was like.. well.. heeeelllll
[02:46] <toxop1asma> the problem with intel is that i don't need a very fast cpu, either. and a new mobo/cpu/memory would cost quite a bit
[02:46] <Rukus_> hell
[02:46] <Rukus_> haha
[02:47] <sMonk> doesn't look like much changed profoX
[02:47] <Rukus> profoX` : NOW... is that all i need to do? is there more to this instal;lation?
[02:48] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: i finally got the .iso downloaded...and i can boot up from it...i installed it on my external...but i can't figure up how to boot the darned thing up...
[02:48] <profoX`> sMonk: no :( i'm not that good in fixing these things either, that was the only thing I could think of
[02:48] <doop> i have a 2 gig pen drive and it's formatted incorrectly.  how do i use fdisk to format it correctly
[02:48] <jombee> what is the difference between the cd and dvd versions?
[02:49] <profoX`> Rukus: not really much more
[02:49] <Rukus_> so now i just play?
[02:49] <Rukus_> how do i enable it?
[02:49] <Dry_Ice> :S
[02:49] <jombee> doop just use mkfs.ext3
[02:49] <Dry_Ice> i think i might give up on linux altogether...
[02:49] <profoX`> Rukus: if the installation completed, try to run "compiz --replace" (in the terminal to start, so you can see what goes wrong if it doesn't work)
[02:49] <doop> jombee:  will that automatically do it?
[02:49] <sMonk> well, atleast you're tryin
[02:49] <jombee> well you need to add the device id, but yeah pretty much that's it
[02:49] <profoX`> and use compizconfig-settings-manager to configure compiz
[02:49] <Dry_Ice> does anyone know a mac nerd?
[02:50] <Dry_Ice> mac/linux nerd...
[02:50] <profoX`> i know one
[02:50] <Rukus_> command not found
[02:50] <profoX`> well, two, but one of them is not really a nerd and just messes things up
[02:50] <profoX`> :P
[02:50] <doop> jombee:  add the device id?
[02:50] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: I installed kubuntu to a powerbook, but that was with wiping the drive..
[02:50] <profoX`> Rukus_: compiz --replace doesn't work?
[02:50] <Dry_Ice> darn bazhang...
[02:50] <jombee> doop something like /dev/sda1
[02:50] <profoX`> Rukus_: theres a space between the z and the -
[02:50] <doop> oh no probs then
[02:50] <Rukus_> yah just saw that
[02:50] <Dry_Ice> maybe i should make mac teh external...
[02:50] <jombee> but you probably don't want to use sda1 unless you really want to kill your system
[02:51] <Rukus_> said xgl not found
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> and use the internal for linux
[02:51] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: boot camp
[02:51] <Rukus_> blacklisted pciid found
[02:51] <profoX`> Rukus_: oh butyou just installed xgl so you'll need to do an X restart
[02:51] <profoX`> since Xgl starts its own X server on top
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: no leopard :P
[02:51] <Rukus_> how do i do that
[02:51] <profoX`> thats how Xgl works (a bit messy :))
[02:51] <profoX`> Rukus_: the same as before.. close your open applications and ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: i never got the beta...
[02:51] <Rukus_> oh
[02:51] <Rukus_> i did something else last  time
[02:51] <Rukus_> tahts why
[02:51] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: also available for tiger
[02:51] <Rukus_> ooops
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: and now, all the downloads are gone, coz of leopard...
[02:52] <Rukus_> i hope order of installation doesnt matter
[02:52] <Rukus_> hehe
[02:52] <Rukus_> ok brb
[02:52] <profoX`> if ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work, then just try to type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart :p
[02:52] <sMonk> Hey profox...
[02:52] <profoX`> sMonk: yea?
[02:52] <doop> jombee:  i want the pen drive to have a format that windows can read too
[02:52] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: no boot camp for tiger anymore...
[02:52] <sMonk> I changed a boot flag on sda1 wrote to table and I got a diffrent output
[02:53] <sMonk> I'll post it.. see what you think
[02:53] <Rukus> ok
[02:53] <profoX`> sMonk: umm okay
[02:53] <Rukus> i lovew having 2 pc's
[02:53] <bazhang> hmm
[02:53] <Rukus> love*
[02:53] <jombee> doop: the command would be mkfs.vfat /dev/whatever
[02:53] <jombee> might have to look that up
[02:53] <doop> ah ok thx
[02:53] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43371/
[02:53] <jombee> I'm not 100% on the command to make it windows readable
[02:53] <Dry_Ice> i'm not buying another computer just for linux...
[02:54] <Dry_Ice> btw...how do you flag a disk/partition as bootable?
[02:54] <profoX`> sMonk: it looks healthier..
[02:54] <sMonk> yeah
[02:54] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: vmware fusion
[02:54] <profoX`> sMonk: can you try to mount that drive?
[02:54] <Dry_Ice> !vmware
[02:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:54] <sMonk> I try.. but I get an error.. I'll post that .. hold on
[02:54] <Dry_Ice> that's how bazhang?
[02:54] <jombee> Dry_Ice you have to use fdisk or disk druid or some kind of partion tool
[02:54] <profoX`> sMonk: okay
[02:55] <Dry_Ice> installing linux is WAYYY more than i thought
[02:55] <Dry_Ice> sure, i knew it was for nerds...
[02:55] <profoX`> Dry_Ice: it all depends on your hardware my friend
[02:55] <profoX`> :)
[02:55] <Rukus> profoX` ITS SLOW lol
[02:55] <Rukus> works tho
[02:55] <peterbecker> does anyone know how to record a stream of a V4L2 device?
[02:55] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43372/
[02:55] <bazhang> and your nerves :}
[02:55] <shinda> was wondering if anyone knew any alternative way to start the strigi dameon, right now when I go configure I get taken to the strigi konqueor page, and click start daemon but it doesn't seem to go anywhere so thought mayabe there was a cli method tried /etc/init.d/ but theres no strigi option
[02:55] <peterbecker> I have a UVC cam and it works in Ekiga, but it seems nowhere else
[02:55] <profoX`> Rukus: it's not supposed to work slow on radeon X200 :P
[02:55] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: i'm at my wits end...
[02:55] <Rukus> no?
[02:55] <peterbecker> xawtv dies on me with XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[02:56] <Rukus> its jittery
[02:56] <profoX`> peterbecker: thats probably because some cameras using the uvc driver only support v4l1 (or was it v4l2?) so only v4l1 (or v4l2?) applications can use the camera
[02:56] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: what's the rush?
[02:56] <profoX`> a bit stupid of course, but that's how it is
[02:56] <peterbecker> AFAIK UVC implies V4L2 and Ekiga seems to agree
[02:56] <peterbecker> Camorama seems to be V4L1 only
[02:57] <profoX`> sMonk: not sure what that means, a bit cryptic that error
[02:57] <sMonk> ok
[02:57] <profoX`> sMonk: did you try sudo mkdir /media/test; sudo mount -t ntfs3g /dev/sda1 /media/test
[02:57] <sMonk> no I didn't
[02:57] <sMonk> hold on
[02:58] <profoX`> because the old terminal way will probably be a bit better for debugging purposes
[02:58] <Dry_Ice_> whoops...
[02:58] <sMonk> this sis what I get...   mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs3g'
[02:58] <Dry_Ice_> if someone said anything to me while i got disconnected, would they mind repeating it?
[02:58] <profoX`> sMonk: wait, are you running Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon?
[02:59] <sMonk> yeah
[02:59] <profoX`> well, thats strange
[02:59] <profoX`> ntfs3g should be integrated into gutsy
[02:59] <Dry_Ice_> maybe i should ask sean...
[02:59] <sMonk> How do I check again.. just to make sure?
[03:00] <profoX`> hah
[03:00] <profoX`> I have that error too if I try it that way
[03:00] <profoX`> sMonk: okay, just use ntfs instead of ntfs3g
[03:00] <Dry_Ice_> curses...
[03:00] <profoX`> i think it's a name change :)
[03:01] <profoX`> the ntfs3g driver has been integrated and is just referred to as 'ntfs' to keep it simple
[03:01] <sMonk> How do I check my version again.. just to make sure?
[03:01] <profoX`> sMonk: version of ?
[03:01] <profoX`> ubutu?
[03:01] <bazhang> Dry_Ice_: want to join #kubuntu-offtopic?
[03:01] <profoX`> kubuntu*
[03:01] <sMonk> kubuntu
[03:01] <Dry_Ice_> bazhang: if i put linux on my main internal drive, and power up the computer...will it boot up to linux automatically?
[03:01] <profoX`> sMonk: rightclick the K icon, help - about kubuntu or something
[03:01] <profoX`> there's also a command :)
[03:02] <profoX`> try lsb_release -a
[03:02] <Rukus> ok i am not sure if this is working or not
[03:02] <sMonk> ok, the drive mounted
[03:02] <profoX`> Dry_Ice_: probably
[03:03] <profoX`> sMonk: hmm, can you access the files?
[03:03] <profoX`> sMonk: try something like "konqueror /media/test" to check if you can browse (see) the files on the drive
[03:03] <profoX`> (or do a quick: ls /media/test)
[03:04] <sMonk> Yeah, I can see them and access them
[03:04] <profoX`> sMonk: then atleast you'll be able to backup some stuff, but if you're lucky windows should be able to boot too
[03:04] <Dry_Ice_> profoX`:  u sure bout the linux on internal thing?
[03:05] <ero> hi :)
[03:05] <profoX`> Dry_Ice_: well it depends on the hardware, but in most cases and if no special RAID configuration is used it should work
[03:05] <profoX`> Dry_Ice_: i have no experience with installation on macs though, so I don't know how that goes
[03:05] <sMonk> well, I can try, only problem being that there is no boot sector on that hd... and for some reason the vista dvd wont recignize the linux partition.
[03:05] <ero> i just installed kubuntu 64bit edition and hope to replace xp for good :)
[03:06] <ero> any professional blender users here?
[03:06] <profoX`> sMonk: do you boot from the MBR on the linux drive?
[03:06] <sMonk> yeah
[03:06] <profoX`> sMonk: and so grub gets loaded.. grub should be able to load vista, right?
[03:07] <sMonk> yeah.. but I don't know how to re-write grub too well
[03:07] <profoX`> ahh..
[03:07] <juan> does anyone know where to get konference or which messenger programme allows voice chat?
[03:07] <sMonk> I have SOME code.. but i'm a bit rusty
[03:08] <sMonk> I haven't used linux "constantly" for about 7yrs now
[03:08] <profoX`> sMonk: well, I'm not sure how to handle 2 different drives, but I have some ideas..
[03:08] <sMonk> I have been trapped by the Mega Dick corp MS
[03:08] <profoX`> but maybe you can make grub detect it
[03:08] <profoX`> by itself
[03:08] <sMonk> Sound good
[03:08] <profoX`> sMonk: hehe, microsoft is not all that bad
[03:08] <sMonk> I'm up for ideas and or suggestions
[03:09] <profoX`> their company policy is bad, their technology is a bit bloated, but all in all, they do have some good products
[03:09] <profoX`> personally i kinda miss microsoft office ;)
[03:09] <profoX`> openoffice.org doesn't cut it for me, although it's getting better
[03:09] <sMonk> lol, the onlything that's good in MS is the coders and programmers that linux could use.. lol
[03:09] <profoX`> nyea well.. :P
[03:09] <sMonk> :)
[03:10] <profoX`> so let me google for a sec
[03:10] <sMonk> well, how do I get grub to try to auto detect again.. I'm lookin too
[03:10] <AngryElf> isn't there a package I can remove that will remove KDE/Desktop and basically revert back to a "server" install?
[03:11] <Rukus> ok profoX` computer is now sluggish and i dont even know if the effects are wroking
[03:11] <profoX`> sMonk: yea i'm not sure if that's possible
[03:11] <toxop1asma> profoX`: you mentioned openarena. does anyone play q3a these days? there is never anything good in the public server list
[03:11] <profoX`> Rukus: oh, you don't see a shadow beneath your windows?
[03:11] <profoX`> toxop1asma: a friend and I play sometimes, but thats maybe a few times a month
[03:11] <leileilol> people play q3 and oa
[03:11] <morphinex> hey folks, I have this crazy problem: when I do ifup eth0 the screen on my laptop goes blank for a moment
[03:11] <Rukus> no
[03:12] <toxop1asma> profoX`: same here. that's probably how everyone does it
[03:12] <sMonk> profoX` no?
[03:12] <morphinex> also, possibly related, knetworkmanager doesn't do anything on my machine
[03:12] <Dry_Ice_> !vmware
[03:12] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:13] <profoX`> sMonk: what no?
[03:14] <sMonk> Grub can't auto detect?
[03:14] <profoX`> oh I'm not sure
[03:14] <profoX`> :P
[03:14] <Tm_T> grub cant itsel
[03:14] <Tm_T> f
[03:14] <Rukus> profoX` i dont see anytrhing noticeably special
[03:14] <Rukus> anything*
[03:14] <profoX`> Tm_T: yea but there are tools for it
[03:14] <Tm_T> profoX`: and thats different
[03:15] <profoX`> Rukus: hmmm... you're probably best off removing xserver-xgl for now and continuing like normal
[03:15] <Rukus> yeah, and i noticied the k-menu got slower
[03:15] <Rukus> thats all
[03:15] <profoX`> Rukus: it's a bit hard to debug your problem
[03:15] <profoX`> from this distance
[03:15] <Rukus> come closer
[03:15] <profoX`> well
[03:15] <profoX`> if you live near belgium feel free to visit
[03:15] <profoX`> ;)
[03:16] <Rukus> lol canada
[03:16] <profoX`> ahh close enough
[03:16] <profoX`> :P
[03:16] <toxop1asma> profoX`: let me guess. you're Flemish?
[03:17] <Rukus> my god
[03:17] <Rukus> computer is running sooo sluggish
[03:17] <profoX`> toxop1asma: yes
[03:17] <Rukus> takes forever to do anything
[03:17] <sMonk> Ok, if someone can help me out.. I am trying to get Vista to boot using GRUB.. this is what I have in my Menu.lst   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43375/    I have vist on /dev/sda1 and linux on /dev/hda
[03:17] <profoX`> toxop1asma: how'd you guess
[03:18] <sMonk> any ideas on a fix?
[03:18] <toxop1asma> profoX`: i hear the Flemish are pretty quick, and speak good english :)
[03:18] <profoX`> haha
[03:18] <profoX`> that's us
[03:18] <profoX`> :P
[03:18] <profoX`> lol
[03:18] <profoX`> where did you hear that?
[03:19] <profoX`> from some flemish guy
[03:19] <profoX`> ;)
[03:19] <toxop1asma> maybe--but i no longer remember that
[03:19] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[03:19] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:20] <Rukus> hwo do i uninstall xserver-xgl from terminal
[03:20] <sMonk> does anyone here know GRUB well?
[03:20] <Tm_T> !apt-get | Rukus
[03:20] <ubotu> Rukus: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:20] <Tm_T> !grub | sMonk
[03:20] <ubotu> sMonk: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:21] <profoX`> sMonk: maybe try add these to menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43376/plain/
[03:21] <profoX`> sMonk: and reboot and see if one of em works :P
[03:21] <sMonk> Tm_T quite the oppisite.. I'm trying to get Vista back after installing Kubuntu
[03:21] <profoX`> Rukus: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[03:21] <profoX`> oh
[03:21] <profoX`> remove the savedefault
[03:21] <profoX`> and makeactives
[03:21] <profoX`> :P
[03:22] <profoX`> only one entry can have that
[03:22] <sMonk> ok
[03:22] <Rukus> ok gotta go
[03:22] <Rukus> thanks!
[03:23] <Dry_Ice_> bye :)
[03:23] <sMonk> profoX` do I leave in ANY of the save and make?
[03:23] <profoX`> later Rukus, maybe we can fix it some other time
[03:23] <Rukus> yah
[03:23] <profoX`> sMonk: wait
[03:23] <Rukus> wait
[03:23] <Rukus> remove savedefualts?
[03:23] <sMonk> ok
[03:23] <Rukus> maekactive?
[03:23] <Rukus> was that for me
[03:23] <profoX`> no
[03:23] <profoX`> sMonk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43379/plain/ just try it like that then
[03:24] <Rukus> opk cya
[03:24] <Rukus> :)
[03:24] <profoX`> makeactive/savedefault just lets grub know which entry to start up by default, its not really necessary, not for testing anyway
[03:24] <profoX`> later Rukus
[03:24] <sMonk> ok... wish me luck
[03:24] <sMonk> thanks ProfoX`
[03:24] <profoX`> well good luck
[03:27] <sMonk> OK
[03:27] <sMonk> not good
[03:27] <sMonk> lol
[03:28] <sMonk> Both try 1 and 3 give me an error 13.... try 2 and 4 give me Booting...    Bootmgr is missing press ctr+alt+del
[03:30] <profoX`> ah
[03:30] <sMonk> so now i'm back to the beginning
[03:31] <profoX`> at least your partition table is more healthy already
[03:32] <profoX`> so you should be able to mount the drive fine in linux and backup data for one.. but fixing it to boot will probably also work
[03:32] <profoX`> but I have no vista install to do some tests
[03:32] <sMonk> lol, sure ya do... me lol
[03:32] <Dry_Ice_> !wpa
[03:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:33] <ToddEDM> could someone hlp me with K3b... how do i ake a DVD that i can watch on my TV.....the video file i have is .mkv
[03:33] <bazhang> ToddEDM: vlc should play it
[03:34] <sMonk> how can I set up that drive to auto mount to /media/vista?
[03:34] <bazhang> oo make--avidemux?
[03:34] <profoX`> sMonk: i think you can edit /etc/fstab for that, but maybe stuff like that should be easier in recent ubuntu versions
[03:35] <ToddEDM> bazhang: i dont want to play it , i want to burn it to DVD
[03:35] <sMonk> I thought I had the latest
[03:35] <morphinex> sMonk: I think there is an ntfs configuration tool
[03:35] <bazhang> right avidemux
[03:35] <morphinex> sMonk: I believe its name is... ntfs configuration tool ;)
[03:36] <sMonk> LOL
[03:36] <sMonk> damn, slow down.. I gotta copy this stuff
[03:36] <Query_If_Needed> :D
[03:36] <morphinex> ok
[03:36] <profoX`> sMonk: maybe try "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb"
[03:36] <_Angelus_> man
[03:36] <_Angelus_> somebody explains me why
[03:36] <_Angelus_> the embeded video player doesn work
[03:37] <_Angelus_> of konqueror
[03:37] <_Angelus_> when i try to play mms://
[03:37] <sMonk> what will that do?
[03:37] <profoX`> sMonk: I think that will reinstall grub and place the MBR on /dev/sdb (where it should be now) and hopefully adds the right entry for vista itself
[03:37] <sMonk> Oh
[03:37] <sMonk> ok\
[03:37] <morphinex> sMonk: here is how you can launch it: type kdesu ntfs-config
[03:37] <morphinex> sMonk: type that in the console
[03:37] <sMonk> any way I can check to see what it may have done or not done?
[03:38] <profoX`> sMonk: it should have changed the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:38] <profoX`> and it should have reinstalled itself in the MBR, hopefully not causing problems :)
[03:39] <sMonk> ok
[03:39] <profoX`> sMonk: I gotta go though, so.. if you're going to test this real quick, i'll wait a while
[03:39] <pramod> cd.. is not working in my konsole
[03:39] <pramod> help me quick pleaseee....
[03:39] <sMonk> ok here is what I got   /dev/sdb: Not found or not a block device.
[03:39] <profoX`> pramod: which error? and there should be a space between cd and the dots "cd .."
[03:39] <pramod> it tells me command not found...
[03:40] <pramod> really??
[03:40] <pramod> okie
[03:40] <pramod> thanxxx
[03:40] <profoX`> sMonk: umm? waht was sudo fdisk -l again?
[03:40] <pramod> yeah i got it...
[03:40] <pramod> i did not use the space lol
[03:40] <profoX`> sMonk: oh it hsoul dbe hdb
[03:40] <profoX`> sMonk: hdb instead of sdb
[03:40] <sMonk> ok
[03:41] <sMonk> what is that copy / paste link again?
[03:41] <profoX`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:42] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43381/
[03:42] <pramod> how do i execute a compiled cpp file in konsole???
[03:42] <profoX`> pramod: ./binary-file
[03:42] <profoX`> pramod: or what do you mean
[03:42] <pramod> okie thanx again bro
[03:42] <pramod> yeah i think that's it...
[03:43] <profoX`> no problem
[03:43] <sMonk> ok pro
[03:43] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43381/
[03:43] <sMonk> that's what I get
[03:43] <profoX`> sMonk: can you check /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:44] <sMonk> my menu.lst looks no diffrent
[03:44] <profoX`> ah crap
[03:44] <sMonk> lol.. that's my thought exactly
[03:45] <morphinex> oh, the many joys of grub
[03:45] <sMonk> but if vista's MBR is gone.. due to kubuntu... is this writing it so it will try to work.. or am I missing something
[03:45] <bazhang> doubt its kubuntu's fault
[03:46] <sMonk> lol... ok possible user oversight?
[03:46] <profoX`> sMonk: MBR just tells which boot stuff to run, it points to GRUB now and GRUB should be able to load the vista bootloader like that if i'm not mistaken
[03:46] <bazhang> vista defective by design :}
[03:47] <sMonk> OK.. that's what I thought.. but I wasn't sure ... I've been hearing that vista does some really dumb stuff
[03:47] <morphinex> grub is sucky by design, I have spent many nights fighting with it
[03:47] <Query_If_Needed> if i wipe the drive, and install kubuntu...i don't need grub, do i?
[03:47] <morphinex> until I finally submitted to its twisted logic
[03:47] <profoX`> sMonk: yea i'm not sure about vista, i only know what i read from google about that
[03:47] <Query_If_Needed> !vista
[03:48] <sMonk> if vista is on the SATA drive... should I not be writing the boot record sda0 not hda0???
[03:48] <Query_If_Needed> !vista
[03:48] <profoX`> Query_If_Needed: well, you do need a bootloader, even if it just loads 1 operating system
[03:48] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[03:48] <Query_If_Needed> profoX`: so, i do need grub then?
[03:48] <sMonk> or is it still hda?
[03:48] <profoX`> Query_If_Needed: yea, but Kubuntu installs that automatically
[03:49] <profoX`> sMonk: which boot record?
[03:49] <Query_If_Needed> kk
[03:49] <Query_If_Needed> thankx
[03:49] <sMonk> ok,
[03:49] <profoX`> sMonk: GRUB always refers to drives with hd
[03:49] <profoX`> no matter if it's ide or sata
[03:50] <profoX`> sMonk: "sudo update-grub" probably doesn't help you either?
[03:50] <sMonk> I'll try
[03:50] <profoX`> it probably only detects the linux partition
[03:50] <Query_If_Needed> !windows
[03:50] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:50] <morphinex> doesn't vista demand to be on the first partition of the first disk or something?
[03:50] <profoX`> sMonk: anyway, it is very late here, so i'm going to go to bed now.. too bad we couldn't fix it right now
[03:50] <_Angelus_> lol!!!!!!! @ mental institute
[03:50] <_Angelus_> haha
[03:51] <profoX`> but well.. i'm pretty sure it can be fixed one way or the other
[03:51] <profoX`> i'll talk to you some other time though
[03:51] <Query_If_Needed> :D
[03:51] <profoX`> i really gotta go :p
[03:51] <profoX`> i have to sleep and get up in 3 hours
[03:51] <profoX`> later
[03:51] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43382/ that is what I get
[03:51] <Query_If_Needed> kk
[03:51] <Query_If_Needed> l8er
[03:52] <sMonk> yeah, I know your pain.. so I do I.. *uhh* stupid vista
[03:52] <profoX`> sMonk: nope, i dont think it finds vista like that..
[03:52] <Query_If_Needed> !vista
[03:52] <profoX`> well, tomorrow i might be able to think of some other stuff
[03:52] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[03:52] <profoX`> right now i need my bed
[03:52] <profoX`> sory
[03:52] <profoX`> sorry*
[03:52] <Query_If_Needed> i live near redmond :D
[03:52] <profoX`> bye
[03:52] <sMonk> no prob.. thanks any way.. later
[03:52]  * profoX` is away
[03:53] <MagicCow> Wow, Kubuntu > PCLOS
[03:53] <Query_If_Needed> lol
[03:53] <bazhang> indeed
[03:53] <MagicCow> I was NOT happy with that experience.
[03:53] <Query_If_Needed> :D
[03:55] <underdog5004> pclos is too long to say easily, imho
[04:02] <MagicCow> The whole thing is a sham.
[04:02] <MagicCow> The install process.. well, when trying to run the livecd, my computer would just restart.
[04:03] <MagicCow> It was ridiculous for me.. I guess some people had an easier time.
[04:04] <bazhang> it works for some
[04:04] <MagicCow> Ae.
[04:04] <MagicCow> aye.
[04:04] <bazhang> but Kubuntu is the superior system--no doubt
[04:04] <_Angelus_> kubuntu pwnz j00
[04:05] <bazhang> and a much nicer community
[04:05] <MagicCow> I'm glad I tried PCLOS, I feel now that I have a kinship with Kubuntu.
[04:05] <bazhang> but this is way #offtopic
[04:05] <MagicCow> It's the place I come back to.
[04:05] <MagicCow> Aye.
[04:05] <underdog5004> it's good to try a bunch of distros, for sure.
[04:05] <bazhang> yeah
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> We all Know that PuppyLinux rules all. :)
[04:06] <bazhang> !ot | everyone
[04:06] <ubotu> everyone: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:06] <bazhang> :}
[04:07] <|dthacker|> I always get here after the cops break up the party
[04:07] <bazhang> Dr_Willis: but only the 2.4 kernel.. :}
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Thats all i need on my Little bitty old box in the basement. :)
[04:07] <bazhang> haha
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> I got it installed to a USB thumb drive thang also. :) handy for rescueing pc's
[04:08] <bazhang> nice
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Sadly most of the 'real' work i do with Linux.. is saving XP's backside.....
[04:08] <Query_If_Needed> wow...
[04:08] <Query_If_Needed> oh...
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> Made some $$ rescueing 'pictures' off  other peoples pc's :)
[04:09] <Query_If_Needed> lol
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> just $20 - but it paied for the pizza for that night! :)
[04:10] <rakan> hi. i used to have fat32 drive that i converted to ntfs after installing kubuntu> i noticed that it is automatically mounted. is there a way to add the mount command to start up?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> the fstab defines what gets mounted at boot up
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> You can easially add an entry in there :)
[04:11] <rakan> is that a console command or gui?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> BUT you made a typo i think.. you mean to say its NOT automaticially mounted.  correct?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[04:11] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:11] <juan> does anyone know where kubuntu places the kdmthemes?
[04:11] <nonewmsgs> dr_willis you're here giving good advice 24/7?
[04:11] <rakan> yea not auto
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> nonewmsgs it seems like it. :)
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> 25/7 today.. the times changed
[04:11] <nonewmsgs> well as one of the people you've helped, thank you :)
[04:11] <bazhang> how was your drive Dr_Willis?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> nonewmsgs  - and given the # of peopl;e ive just made mad... heh heh
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> bazhang my back is killing me.. but the van at least has NICE seats...
[04:12] <bazhang> :}
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> I will say that I do like the RIde of my Chrysler Minivan.. everyond go buy one.! or a dodge van. :)
[04:12]  * Dr_Willis dosent mention that he works for Chrysler.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Actually I got a Friends and Faimly Discount also If anyone wants one.. Heh heh.
[04:13] <bazhang> but does it run linux
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> The new Multi-Media thang in the high end vehicles..  - Not sure what OS it runs...
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> 20gb hd can do video/music/so forth.
[04:14] <bazhang> wow
[04:14] <Query_If_Needed> wow...
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Its a $1000 option I think - So WOW is right..
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> I aint buying it. heh.
[04:15] <Query_If_Needed> wow...
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> Those car-pc's things are neat. Saw some on a web site the other day.. some were running Ubuntu.
[04:15] <pramod> how do i use the script command in konsole...
[04:15] <pramod> ?
[04:16] <pramod> i want to compile a file in cpp and output the compile esults to a file...
[04:16] <pramod> i want to compile a file in cpp and output the compile results to a file...
[04:16] <hydrogen> g++ file.cpp -o programname
[04:16] <rakan> in fstab there is something called uid that the page u gave me doesnt say anything about
[04:16] <hydrogen> user id
[04:17] <hydrogen> its the numeric representation of the user
[04:17] <rakan> its a hash :S
[04:17] <pramod> well this part i know it...
[04:17] <pramod> but the output itself?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> uid is not always needed. theres several ways to mount/set the options for a vfat filesystem
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> do you just hafve the 1 user on the system? want any others to access the windows drive?
[04:18] <pramod> that is everything that is output in the screen with the compilation errors and all i want to record it in a file...
[04:18] <rakan> i copied the uid for the C drive ntfs and made the D use the same UID
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> rakan you aibnt confusing the UUID with the 'UID' are you?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> For example, if you want everybody to be able to read, write, and execute every file in your /mnt/c, you should specify the mask 0000:
[04:19] <Dr_Willis>    /dev/hda1   /mnt/vfat   vfat   umask=0000    0 0
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> you can go about all this - several different ways
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> the umask way - lets EVERy user have access
[04:20] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs ntfs uid=1000,gid=100 0 0
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> lets the user whos uid is 1000 - have full acccess. thats it.
[04:24] <Johno> How do I go about setting up a dial up connection on kubuntu?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> I got no idea on that one Johno.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> I aint used dialup in years! :0
[04:27] <Johno> lol
[04:28] <Johno> well that sucks
[04:28] <Eeyore-Jr> i'm looking for a wireless scanner for kde
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> to scan wireless networks you mean? :)
[04:30] <Eeyore-Jr> Dr_Willis: yes
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> !find wireless
[04:30] <ubotu> Found: wireless-tools, gkrellmwireless, kwirelessmonitor
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> check the package manager tool for scanner - theres a few in there. I just dont rember their names
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> !find scanner
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: btscanner, libtk-objscanner-perl, mailscanner, swscanner
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !find scan
[04:37] <ubotu> Found: exim4-daemon-heavy, exim4-daemon-light, libkscan-dev, libkscan1, libruby1.8 (and 42 others)
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> wait
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !find wire
[04:37] <ubotu> Found: wireless-tools, gkrellmwireless, kwirelessmonitor, tripwire, wireshark (and 2 others)
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !info wireshark
[04:37] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> aww...  thought that might have been it
[04:38] <Eeyore-Jr> kismit
[04:56] <lespea> Eeyore-Jr: kismet
[04:56] <jagcorvair> !adept
[04:56] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:57] <lespea> Eeyore-Jr: also, airmon-ng
[05:03] <SteamMachine> Hello.
[05:03] <SteamMachine> Whenever I put a DVD into the drive, K3B thinks it is a CD. Is this a known issue?
[05:11] <Merritt> Hi guys. Having an odd problem here: Went into "Manual Configuration" for Knetworkmanager, to try and set my ip as static instead of DHCP. Not it won't seem to use either my wireless card or my Ethernet, it won't detect wireless networks and will not connect in any fashion. I ditched the static IP idea, put it back on DHCP, but it is still as if the nics are not loading at all. Any ideas? Had to boot into windows just to get on here.
[05:13] <Daisuke_Ido> Merritt: in linux, sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[05:14] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:14] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: whoops
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> remove the information pertaining to the network devices you want handled by knetworkmanager
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> (eth0 and whatever your wireless is)
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> leave lo in there
[05:16] <Merritt> Daisuke_Ido: That's all? What does this do? :)
[05:17] <jared> hii how do i make ndiswrapper work in gutsy?
[05:18] <vincent_> xdpyinfo | grep resolution reports 99x98 dpi but xrdb -query | grep dpi I get 96. which one is true?
[05:20] <Merritt> Okay, I'ma go try removing that info from interfaces. Hopefully I'll come back in from linux.
[05:25] <leon> wich is the kubuntu es chanel?
[05:25] <Dry_Ice_> !es
[05:25] <_Rukus> anyone know how to make ndiswrapper work?
[05:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:25] <Merritt> Okay, it worked. Removed the lines, saved, exited. Wireless connected in 0.4 seconds. Hah.  And all it was was two lines in a text file... sometimes that drives me nuts. It can be so bloody easy to fix things in Linux, but only if you know how.... :P
[05:26] <Dry_Ice_> wow...
[05:27] <_Rukus> ugh
[05:27] <_Rukus> why dont things work for me
[05:27] <Merritt> Gremlins. Gremlins are always the reason!
[05:28] <_Rukus> lol
[05:29] <Merritt> Ah well. Linux is behaving again.. for now
[05:29] <Merritt> ;)
[05:29] <Dry_Ice_> lol
[05:30]  * Merritt needs to pick up a good linux book.
[05:30] <Dry_Ice_> well, you couldve come here and asked :P
[05:30]  * Merritt has one from 8 years ago.. >_>
[05:30] <Dry_Ice_> which you did...after hours of junk...
[05:30] <Merritt> Yeah, but that meant booting into Windows, now didn't it?
[05:30] <Dry_Ice_> lol
[05:30] <Merritt> I feel ugly and sullied, like a coat of oil on my skin that won't come off! A taint on the soul!
[05:31] <Dry_Ice_> hrmm
[05:32] <_Rukus> anyone with ndiswerapper answers?
[05:32] <_Rukus> -e
[05:33] <positrix> What's the installer like now? does it still make one huge partition by default, or does it split it sensibly?
[05:33] <Dry_Ice_> it depends
[05:34] <Dry_Ice_> you can config it...
[05:35] <positrix> I was asking about the default
[05:37] <coreymon77> goodnight everyone
[05:38] <positrix> nightnight
[05:39] <_Rukus> ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/buildt:(
[05:39] <_Rukus> err
[05:39] <_Rukus> :(
[05:40] <rgreening> ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build with no t
[05:48] <posingaspopular> is there anyway I could katapult to a document, ie. 'thispaperisawesome.odt'?
[05:49] <positrix> it should be pretty easy
[05:49] <Jucato> posingaspopular: yes, but you have to enter the exact path to the doc, starting from $HOME
[05:49] <Dry_Ice_> is there any way to convince my dad that kubuntu is totally awesome?
[05:50] <Jucato> posingaspopular: for example, if foo.odt is in /home/username/docs/mydocs, then Alt+F2, docs/mydocs/'foo.odt
[05:50] <positrix> if you use the Document Catalog plugin for katapult, that should work
[05:50] <positrix> there's also the option of using something like strigi
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Dry_Ice_: livecd
[05:53] <posingaspopular> yea it's in /home/username/documents/name.fileextension
[05:53] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: Compiz.
[05:53] <posingaspopular> oh wait... i see
[05:53] <posingaspopular> awesome
[05:53] <posingaspopular> thanks Jucato
[05:53] <posingaspopular> did you read this week's UWN?
[05:53] <Jucato> you're welcome :)
[05:54] <Jucato> hm. not yet
[05:54] <posingaspopular> my project is in there for Ubuntu-Illinois Codesprint
[05:54] <posingaspopular> in other words: gogogogog
[05:54] <Dry_Ice_> hmm
[05:54] <Jucato> posingaspopular: nice :)
[05:55] <Jucato> good luck with that! (next year?)
[05:55] <Dry_Ice_> he said no...
[05:55] <Dry_Ice_> in such a way that i can't say but dad...
[05:55] <posingaspopular> yes sir. so if you want to, you know... fly over for that event, you're welcome to
[05:56] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: show him kubuntu running on your computer?
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> yep...
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> he says its slow
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> he doesn't want anything changed
[05:56] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: What's he using at the moment?
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> xp :S
[05:57] <ardchoille> When you change file associations, where is the info kept?
[05:57] <ardchoille> Which file/folder?
[05:57] <Dry_Ice_> why is my dad being so stubborn?
[05:57] <Dry_Ice_> its not like anyone uses that computer :S
[05:59] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: turn off all the spyware/virus countermeasures you have in place. wait for the computer to slow to a crawl. then say "look dad! XP is really slow! Kubuntu is faster!"
[05:59] <Dry_Ice_> he doesn't use that computer...
[06:00] <Dry_Ice_> didn't i already say that???
[06:01] <ardchoille> Dry_Ice_: Does he use that computer?
[06:01]  * ardchoille ducks
[06:02] <Dry_Ice_>  /kick ardchoille
[06:02] <Dry_Ice_> :D
[06:02] <ardchoille> hehe
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> i actually don't use kubuntu :P
[06:03] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: If you can't convince him that kubuntu is good, try convincing him that XP is a load of rubbish.
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> he wants all his files
[06:03] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: What do you use?
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> os x
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> :D
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> linux > os x > windows
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> os x doesn't like kubuntu
[06:04] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: Hm. I'd be careful about statements like that.
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> tiz true...
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> imo, of course :S
[06:05] <vincent_> If i put 'autohint' in fonts.conf together with the existing setting does the autohint still apply? another thing, subpixel hinting full or medium is the best for you? pls reply i'm new to ubuntu
[06:06] <positrix> OSX is a fork of FreeBSD. FreeBSD is based on BSD Unix.
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> Mac OS X 10.4.10
[06:06] <positrix> Linux is based off an "I'm going to learn to write a kernel" personal project
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> <.<
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> >.>
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> ¬.¬
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> >.<
[06:07] <Dry_Ice_> minus well shut the kubuntu computer down...
[06:07] <Jucato> Dry_Ice_: please stop that
[06:07] <Dry_Ice_> as he's on the computer he uses :P
[06:08] <Dry_Ice_> Jucato: sorry
[06:09] <positrix> OSX has a much better heritage than linux. lack of GPL makes it suck though.
[06:09] <viktor_> anyone know the apt get command for firefox
[06:09] <Merritt_> apt-get... firefox? :)
[06:09] <ardchoille> viktor_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:09] <viktor_> thank you so much
[06:10] <Dry_Ice_> positrix: huh?
[06:10] <viktor_> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate error plz help
[06:10] <viktor_> i thought my origninal commmand was wrong but this prooves its not
[06:10] <ardchoille> !info firefox
[06:10] <Dry_Ice_> !firefox
[06:11] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8967 kB, installed size 26024 kB
[06:11] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:11] <viktor_> same error
[06:11] <ardchoille> viktor_: Maybe a problem with your sources.list
[06:11] <viktor_> how do i fix the source list
[06:11] <ardchoille> viktor_: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:11] <ardchoille> !paste
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:12] <viktor_> dunno how to
[06:13] <ardchoille> viktor_: open /etc/apt/sources.list in kate, copy the content and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url
[06:14] <viktor_> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[06:14] <ardchoille> viktor_: kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <viktor_> ok got a hole table here wat em i lookin for
[06:16] <ardchoille> copy the whole thing and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:17] <viktor_> ok no worries
[06:18] <viktor_> couldnt paste gave me error for spamin
[06:18] <viktor_> how can i remove linux from the partition
[06:19] <viktor_> and get rid of the grub loader
[06:20] <positrix> microsoft fdisk -r
[06:20] <positrix> will remove grub
[06:20] <positrix> but I don't see why you'd want to
[06:25] <alexander> hello
[06:25] <Dry_Ice_> hello
[06:26] <alexander> you know i donot remember server - only its name how 2 find it ?
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[06:26] <alexander> irc i mean
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> what do you remember?
[06:27] <alexander> host
[06:27] <alexander> do not
[06:27] <alexander> read carefuly
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> google?
[06:27] <alexander> more carefuly
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm reading carefully
[06:27] <alexander> no
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> you either need to organize your thoughts more coherently so people can understand you, or go google it.
[06:28] <alexander> my dog reads better
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and if you don't remember anything about it, how are we supposed to help you?
[06:28] <positrix> alexander: is english your first language?
[06:28] <alexander> no sir
[06:28] <alexander> whats up ?
[06:29] <alexander> you dont like my english ?
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> ESL or no, insulting people is no way to get what you want
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> you may have better luck in a channel that focuses on your native language
[06:29] <rakan> Where does wine add it's directory if u install it using adept package manager?
[06:29] <alexander> where ?
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't tell you if i don't know what your native language is...
[06:30] <positrix> rakan: ~/.wine for your config files
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> rakan: /home/username/.wine
[06:30] <alexander> i don't know
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> alexander: you don't know what language you speak?
[06:30] <alexander> yes
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> yes you know or yes you don't know
[06:31] <positrix> apparently removing and upgrading are the same things... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43391/
[06:31] <alexander> russian
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[06:31] <alexander> tajik
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that does explain a lot
[06:31] <alexander> turkish
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !ru | alexander
[06:31] <alexander> germanese
[06:31] <ubotu> alexander: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:31] <alexander> thankz
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[06:32] <alexander> but not ubuntu i want kubuntu
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> chances are they can help with both
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> they're the same thing underneath the desktop
[06:33] <positrix> ubuntu will do. You won't need kubuntu specifically unless it's purely a kde thing.
[06:33] <alexander> i know
[06:33] <alexander> ubuntu uses Gnome
[06:33] <alexander> i was using Slackwae for long period
[06:33] <alexander> *slackware
[06:34] <alexander> so kubuntu is new distr for me
[06:34] <alexander> :)
[06:34] <rakan> What application would you recommend me using if i wanted to listen to media streams
[06:36] <positrix> rakan: Kaffeine or mplayer
[06:36] <rakan> i did download mms:// protocol libraries but kaffeine doesnt open the stream
[06:37] <jHoNDoE> guys, I have a question
[06:37] <psycholic> im having problems connecting with my kubuntu cpu
[06:37] <jHoNDoE> can I upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 without problems?...on WUBI
[06:38] <positrix> possibly.
[06:38] <psycholic> i have tryed to reset the iptables
[06:39] <psycholic> i tryed to ping it but it won't work
[06:39] <psycholic> is there any other firewall i should check
[06:39] <positrix> jHoNDoE: text replace "feisty" with "gutsy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list, the sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:39] <positrix> jHoNDoE: but you might be better off using a CD
[06:40] <positrix> jHoNDoE: It depends on how you have things organised.
[06:40] <ardchoille> positrix: That method of upgrading is not recommended
[06:40] <psycholic> might just reintall because the sound don't work ether
[06:41] <positrix> ardchoille: Why not?
[06:41] <jHoNDoE> positrix I'll try thanks
[06:41] <ardchoille> positrix: for one thing, that method won't get you any new apps that are in gutsy that weren't in feisty, it'll just upgrade what you already have.
[06:42] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[06:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:44] <jonathan> does anyone know why the webcam doesnt work in kopete?
[06:44] <j2^> Hm, trying to instakk 7.10 on a new box. I get hash error when it gets to the "install kernel" stage (regardless of which of the three i pick) i have tried both the normal and the alternate install CD. (Yes, the install images hashes clean agains the downlaod)
[06:46] <sd32> jonathan, have you tried asking in #kopete?
[06:49] <ardchoille> When you change file associations in kde, where is the info kept? I know it's somewhere in ~/.kde/* but I don't know which file/folder.
[06:50] <posingaspopular> anyone else having trouble with their computers shutting down after closing amarok in gutsy?
[06:50] <posingaspopular> it's a pain
[06:54] <tuxwulf> Posing > Actually I have a general shutdown problem with kubuntu on my desktop... If anyone can give me some hints where to look, I'd be very grateful...
[06:56] <posingaspopular> tuxwulf: ah yes i remember you talking about this before
[06:56] <posingaspopular> im not sure which scripts handle the shutdown, but for some reason they execute after I try to close amarok
[06:56] <rakan> MPlayer and kaffeine are not opening mms:// url. Any idea why?
[06:58] <sd32> rakan, have you tried asking in #Mplayer ?
[06:58] <tuxwulf> It gets as far as the screen going black and then ... stuck... So I hit the reset button ....
[07:01] <Dry_Ice_> night
[07:02] <rakan> sd32: yes they are sleeping
[07:03] <sd32> rakan, yeah ive noticed that in other channels also, it might have to do with the time
[07:04] <rakan> sd32: if u have got any idea please provide me with it
[07:04] <sd32> rakan,sorry not that advanced yet
[07:05] <rakan> sd32: same here
[07:05] <sd32> rakan have you downloaded the restricted extras yet?
[07:06] <rakan> yea i installed both kaffeine and mplayer plugins for mms and xmms
[07:10] <positrix> ~/.kde/share/config   <-- My new favorite directory.
[07:11] <sd32> rakan,have you looked in here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[07:11] <ardchoille> positrix: Mine too
[07:12] <Kr4t05> For some reason, video playback is broken.
[07:12] <Kr4t05> Kaffience, VLC, mplayer, everything.
[07:13] <Kr4t05> It will play the video for a few seconds, then it goes all green and blocky
[07:14] <MagicCow> tuxwulf: I had that problem, a reinstall fixed. Never figured it out.
[07:18] <tuxwulf> MagicCow > .. I see... Do you happen to know where there is a shutdown log..? I mean, dmesg logs startup, sort of, is there sth similar for shutdown ... that you know?
[07:22] <tuxwulf> ...or anyone ...?
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> look in /var/log
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe something
[07:25] <tuxwulf> ....Ok, check... thanks!
[07:26] <tuxwulf> In the mean time... Doesanyone know how to prevent Kubuntu from starting the desktop?
[07:26] <tuxwulf> I used to do that in inittab
[07:26] <tuxwulf> but that does nto work any more
[07:28] <sd32> just boot into recovery mode everytime
[07:33] <tuxwulf> eh
[07:33] <sd32> at the grub menu press escape and chose recovery modr
[07:34] <sd32> *mode
[07:34] <tuxwulf> Oh, there.....Ok... I wil try that to see if it is the desktop that is giving me this shutdown grief... Thanks!
[07:34] <sd32> np
[07:34] <MagicCow> I am still a linux newb, so no. THe only info I had, is it stopped at "System Will Halt" or something very similiar.
[07:34] <MagicCow> That would stay up until I powered down with the power button.
[07:50] <tuxwulf> Does gkrellm work on kubuntu ...?
[07:53] <furio84> I never tried it but i think it will work. But if you want a system monitor maybe you wil find some superkaramba applets more intresting
[07:55] <tuxwulf> ..I'll look into that, thanks... SuperKaramba
[08:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> my screensaver activates, about 1/2 hour later, I try to use the computer and xorg is taking about 92% of processor and it never responds. I always end up killing the X server and restarting kdm.  What could be the problem?
[08:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> wow, it's very quiet here.
[08:06] <sd32> its late in the US
[08:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> I know. That is the problem with working over night.
[08:06] <sd32> lol
[08:06] <sd32> graveyard shift?
[08:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> yep.
[08:10] <furio84> I had the same problem yesterday... solutions???
[08:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> furio, what problems?
[08:11] <kraut> moin
[08:14] <furio84> the same as you... Coming back from screensaver takes a lot of resources... But after half an hour i managed to close applications and shutdown...
[08:14] <jastengel> Hello
[08:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have been trying to find an answer to this...
[08:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> what hardware do you have?
[08:16] <jastengel> I am kind of stuck. I am a novice linux user, and my Kubuntu box just did something "bad"
[08:17] <jastengel> when I loaded my package manager, and checked for updates... it told me to update to Feisty Fawn....
[08:17] <jastengel> it did its thing... and now it wont boot.
[08:17] <furio84> Acer Aspire 5100, amd turion 64x2, 1600Mhz, Ati Radeon xpress1100 with closed source drivers installed (but no compiz activated)...
[08:18] <furio84> ...even I was looking for an answer...
[08:20] <furio84> Maybe the problem is related to graphical hardware. I had a lot of problems with ati adapters...
[08:21] <jastengel> it goes through the grub screens.... then it goes to the kubuntu screen with the progress bar, which doesnt progress.... then it goes to a text prompt that says:
[08:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> I think so, but I didn't see this problem with gentoo or Mepis when I had it installed a few months back.
[08:22] <furio84> Maybe you were using a different version of drivers, kernel and Xorg. And it's not a secret that kubuntu is very far from perfection. It seems like developers give much more attention to ubuntu, that works much better.
[08:24] <jastengel> busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3ubuntu3) built-in shell (ash) enter help for a list of commands....
[08:24] <jastengel> can anybody help me? I am soo lost.
[08:26] <sd32> we wont know until you ask
[08:26] <furio84> Sorry jastengel, i wasn't talkin about your problem but mine. If you cannot boot i suggest, first of all, to try to boot in failsafe mode. Once the machine is up and running (and you will see only a text prompt anding with a #)...
[08:26] <alexander> ru
[08:26] <alexander> how to go to russian chat ?
[08:26] <Jucato> !ru | alexander
[08:26] <ubotu> alexander: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:26] <alexander> #ru-ubuntu
[08:26] <furio84> ... type apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install && depmod -a
[08:26] <alexander> thankz
[08:27] <furio84> exactly as i wrote you
[08:27] <jastengel> how do I get to the failsafe mode?
[08:28] <jastengel> (OMG I feel so stupid...)
[08:28] <sd32> recovery mode?
[08:29] <furio84> Don't worry... There must be a failsafe kernel in grub menu, at least i think. It will lead you to a root terminal, loading just the essential. So, assuming your network will work, my suggestions might help.
[08:30] <furio84> Yes, recovery mode, sorry...
[08:30] <furio84> "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install && depmod -a"
[08:31] <sd32> hit escape during grub menu   then select the recovery mode
[08:31] <jastengel> aah... in the grub process, it said hit escape (gave me 2 seconds) I did, and I have 8 choices, 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode) is the second one... is that what I want?
[08:31] <sd32> yes
[08:32] <jastengel> tnx :) its doing --something--
[08:32] <sd32> yw
[08:32] <furio84> Yes, the second one. Remember that the kernel version has to be the same as the first option in the list
[08:32] <jastengel> it was :)
[08:32] <CyberFlux> whats the channel i need for gaming tips in kubuntu?
[08:32] <furio84> ...
[08:32] <sd32> it will go to the command line eventually
[08:33] <furio84> Or at least i hope it will
[08:33] <noaxess_kubuntu> hey..
[08:33] <sd32> :)
[08:33] <jastengel> lol
[08:33] <noaxess_kubuntu> how can is see, what ubuntu i have.. 7.04 or 7.10?
[08:33] <furio84> What appened
[08:33] <furio84> ???
[08:33] <jastengel> its initializing stuff
[08:34] <furio84> A lot of strange things, right?
[08:34] <jastengel> yea... working on hard drives now...
[08:34] <jastengel> scsi1
[08:35] <furio84> Before doing as I told you before, try to write: ping www.google.com to verify network functionality...
[08:35] <jastengel> kk
[08:35] <furio84> The fact that It's working on something is good. Better than nothing...
[08:36] <sd32> phew!!
[08:36] <furio84> Wait a minute, i'm going to have a coffee!
[08:36] <jastengel> it says it cant access tty; job controll turned off
[08:36] <sd32> DOH!!
[08:36] <jastengel> ping not found
[08:37] <sd32> sorry caps
[08:37] <jastengel> totally screwed eh?
[08:37] <sd32> to tell you the truth, i realy dont know:(
[08:37] <WaltzingAlong> noaxess_kubuntu: cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:38] <sd32> google it!
[08:39] <jastengel> :/   so how hard is it to mount a drive in another computer to recover critical work data?
[08:39] <jastengel> all that email...
[08:39] <jastengel> ...
[08:39] <jastengel> (gotta laugh at my self I guess)
[08:40] <furio84> wait a minurte before give up...
[08:42] <jastengel> kk of course furio... knew you were getting your java
[08:42] <furio84> Despite ping wasn't found (!!!) try with this: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install && depmod -a
[08:44] <furio84> If apt-get doesn't work because your network is off, maybe depmod -a can solve the problem. If it doesn't, i ask you to boot normally and tell me what kubuntu tells you when boot freezes
[08:44] <jastengel> returns "/bib/sh: apt-get: not found"
[08:45] <furio84> Excuse. First of all, type "/bin/bash" without "
[08:45] <furio84> Then try again ping, apt-get and depmod
[08:46] <jastengel> hey... could I be in a ramdrive? bub doesnt have a bash in it
[08:47] <jastengel> *bin
[08:47] <jastengel> my prompt is "(initramfs)
[08:47] <jastengel> "
[08:47] <furio84> oh my god...
[08:48] <jastengel> it didnt say that until I did cd /bin
[08:48] <furio84> Are you in /bin?!?
[08:48] <jastengel> I am now
[08:49] <furio84> So type "bash"
[08:49] <jastengel> bash: not found
[08:49] <furio84> This may be a real problem... Try with depmod -a, then, and if it does'nt work reboot in "normal mode".
[08:50] <jastengel> I typed depmod -a and it didnt give me an error message... but it didnt "do" anything either
[08:51] <jastengel> it just went to a fresh line with a command prompt
[08:51] <furio84> That's ok. Maybe it is enough... In my experience depmod -a (without any other option) doesn't give any output different from a fresh line.
[08:52] <furio84> So, maybe if you reboot and wait evrything is gone in it's right place.... Or maybe not.
[08:53] <furio84> Is there any strange reason why you speek italian?
[08:53] <Jasen> whoops... I missed that.... I closed my IRC client by accident
[08:54] <Jasen> and it changed my nick
[08:54] <WaltzingAlong> because i was in italy this past weekend?
[08:55] <furio84> So after a weekend you leaned italian???
[08:55] <furio84> Where exactly was you?
[08:55] <furio84> jastengel... how is it going?
[08:56] <Jasen> (jastengel) sry my nick changed, I accidentially closed the IRC client
[08:56] <furio84> Ok ok... and you don't speek italian, i presume...
[08:56] <furio84> Tried with a reboot in normal mode???
[08:56] <WaltzingAlong> something like that
[08:56] <Jasen> not yet... doing it
[08:57] <Jasen> should I interupt the grub with escape again and select the first option?
[08:57] <furio84> No, it will use it automatically
[08:57] <Jasen> kk
[08:58] <furio84> Just wait until it freezes, if it does, and tell me what output you have
[08:58] <Jasen> thank you for your patience and assistance :)
[08:58] <furio84> So, WaltzingAlong, where exactly have you been during your italian weekend
[08:58] <furio84> ?
[08:59] <WaltzingAlong> close to venice
[08:59] <furio84> Oh, i love venice.
[09:00] <sd32> its sinking
[09:01] <sd32> :(
[09:02] <WaltzingAlong> did not have time this trip to visit venice
[09:02] <furio84> i think that some day a kind of "venice magic" will save the whole place from sinking... You didn't have time? I'm sorry...
[09:02] <Jasen> it went to the kubuntu load screen with the progress bar and the three gears, then black screen with flashing underline top left corner, then....
[09:02] <furio84> then...
[09:03] <furio84> suspence...
[09:03] <Jasen> BusyBox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) enter '
[09:03] <sd32> drum rool
[09:03] <Jasen> help ' for a list of built in commands.
[09:04] <WaltzingAlong> no problem; stop in next time i am there, in december
[09:04] <Jasen> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off "
[09:04] <naught101> does anyone know the command that's called by kmenu>logout>hibernate?
[09:04] <Jasen> (initramfs)
[09:05] <Jasen> then a cursur
[09:06] <furio84> I don't think that "help" will really help you. At this point you have to consider a fresh installation. The good notice is that you have some posibility to save your data without backing up, the bad one is that if you want to back up it won't be possible without a "linux friend", because linux file system isn't read by windows and other os...
[09:06] <WaltzingAlong> !ext3
[09:06] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:07] <Jasen> so... if I pop in a fresh hdd... I can install the OS, then mount this hdd and get my data?
[09:07] <Jasen> I just happen to have a fresh hdd....
[09:08] <furio84> I'm really happy you have the possibility to travel so much, WA. Jasen, of course you can, assuming that you know how to do that, because i can't help you
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> just a few hours in the car
[09:08] <Jasen> well... I dont know how to do the software part... but a friend might... the hardware part is easy
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> but yes true wonderful to have the opportunity
[09:08] <furio84> Where are you from, WA?
[09:09] <Jasen> :) thanks for your help...
[09:09] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: the usa
[09:09] <furio84> My help wasn't so useful... :(
[09:10] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: in germany now
[09:10] <Jasen> at least you tried :) now I just gotta find my buddies phone number... its in email on that computer... he is my linux connection lol
[09:10] <Jasen> AND I have to learn how to back up my emails
[09:12] <furio84> The only thing I can say is: don't give up with linux, because with a little experience evrything will go exactly as you want it to... For the software part i can help, hardware is the real problem. But if you are able to put in your new hard drive, simply install kubuntu (or, better for a novice, ubuntu) and you will find your data in /home/<username> folder of your old hard disk.
[09:13] <furio84> Remember that configs and private data such as e-mails are often stored in hidden directories, that in linux are normal directories preceded by a dot (so /home/<username>./kde/share/apps ecc...)
[09:14] <Jasen> :)  I use to be a hardware tech.... but only really worked with microsoft "products"
[09:14] <Jasen> now I make furniture...
[09:14] <ubuntu_> hello all
[09:14] <furio84> So, WA, you'r from USA, but now you live in Germany???
[09:15] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: yes
[09:15] <furio84> Cool... A real traveller
[09:16] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: and you?
[09:16] <furio84> So, jasen, if you are able to install ubuntu or kubuntu, you can manage the disaster, but be careful not to format your old HD, that i think will be recognized as sdb or sdc.
[09:16] <preston> ive got a few questions if someones got a sec
[09:16] <furio84> I live in Italy, always lived here
[09:17] <furio84> Your old hard drive will be recognized and mounted automatically from your new linux installation
[09:18] <furio84> Sorry, but now i have to go... Fitness is calling me... Have an appointment with my personal trainer... See you again
[09:18] <furio84> Bye
[09:18] <preston> adios
[09:18] <Jasen> thanks again
[09:18] <sd32> Jasen, for future reference use both on-line "and" off-line backup for important data
[09:18] <preston> is kcontrol gone guys
[09:19] <WaltzingAlong> preston: no. alt+f2  kcontrol
[09:19] <preston> im a new kubuntu user and linux user for that matter ive been trying to find my distro
[09:19] <preston> i like kde over gnome i know that much
[09:20] <Jasen> lol.... of course... I just hadnt gotten around to learning --how-- to back up my files yet... my windows box is backed up periodically to dvds
[09:20] <WaltzingAlong> !backup
[09:20] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:21] <Jasen> apparently that is a common question :)
[09:21] <preston> how strong of a kde desktop is kubuntu
[09:21] <progress0r> need help, ive battled compiz a hundred times and by God, I still cannot get it to work in gutsy with my ati radeon card. Currently I have followed one of the tutorials and now I cant login to kde, it just sits there with the background and the cursor and nothing else. Anyone have any idea?
[09:21] <sd32> but nobody does it , including me
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide | progress0r
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | progress0r (also check the wiki)
[09:22] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: thanks, does it work with kde and kdm or should i be use gdm?
[09:22] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: yes compiz works with kde (and in combination with ati)
[09:23] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: ive followed at least 5 different tutorials whats one more ;) thanks
[09:23] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: you may wish to reconfigure your xserver         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:23] <preston> is there a way to add a area to the kmenu for most popular apps
[09:23] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: after installing everything (xserver-xgl)
[09:23] <preston> and forgive me if my previous question was a bit stupid
[09:24] <WaltzingAlong> preston: yes you could have it show the most recently or most frequently used apps
[09:24] <WaltzingAlong> preston: find the panel editor where you can manage the menu, the option is there (you could find it through kconrol)
[09:26] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: i am not much of a fan of xserver-xgl and apparently using the most recent fglrx module/driver from ati/amd, then xserver-xgl is no longer needed
[09:26] <sd32> <man I cant wait to get more memory in my  system tomorrow!!
[09:26] <WaltzingAlong> sd32: what is the amount in your system now?
[09:26] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: maybe thats my problem thanks
[09:27] <sd32> WaltzingAlong: 128 meg
[09:27] <WaltzingAlong> sd32: and after tomorrow?
[09:27] <sd32> 512
[09:27] <WaltzingAlong> sd32: nice
[09:27] <sd32> and a new ggraphics card
[09:28] <darlos_> dosen't work
[09:29] <darlos_> can soe
[09:29] <sd32> old card
[09:31] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: do you have xserver-xgl installed? I just removed it but it looks like it removed the libglitz stuff. other than i did follow that tutorial and when i do compiz --replace i get a No whitelisted driver found for XGL.
[09:37] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: no i do not have xserver-xgl installed.
[09:38] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: ok troubleshooting this thing. thanks
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: (this laptop has an nvidia card)
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: did you see the section about adding the 'fglrx' module to the list of whitelisted modules?
[09:39] <jstengel> hey sd... is 7.10 stable?
[09:39]  * jstengel slaps Jasen around a bit with a large trout
[09:39] <WaltzingAlong> jstengel: not one of the lts releases but yes
[09:40] <jstengel> which release should I install for stability?
[09:40] <jstengel> (considering I am a nub)
[09:40] <WaltzingAlong> jstengel: which do you have now?
[09:40] <sd32> jstengel: workin good for mee
[09:40] <jstengel> I had Edgy... it tried to upgrade to Feisty and it ate itself
[09:41] <WaltzingAlong> jstengel: so feisty now? fresh install gutsy
[09:41] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: What was the last entry to me? i logged out just when you entered. I was restarting x server.
[09:41] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: did you see the section about adding the 'fglrx' module to the list of whitelisted modules?
[09:41] <jstengel> kk...
[09:41] <jstengel> tnx
[09:41] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: not on that tutorial - ill look again
[09:41] <sd32>        I think there all pretty stable, ubuntu is prob the most compatable
[09:42] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: section on 3d desktop effects
[09:42] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: looking now - tx
[09:43] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: are you referring to the same tutorial? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion? I dont see this section
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide | progress0r, i as referring to this one
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: which describes, among other things, installing the latest 'fglrx' module (which apparently does not require xserver-xgl)
[09:46] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: aha this is one tutorial i have not seen ok feeling hopeful.
[09:51] <crazy_bus> I have a problem with a hp printer printing missing a colour.  What package should I file it under?
[09:54] <jastengel> how do I mount a HDD
[09:54] <jastengel> it is the first drive on the second ide buss
[09:56] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: typically one mounts file systems
[09:56] <WaltzingAlong> !mounting | jastengel
[09:56] <ubotu> jastengel: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:57] <jastengel> kk.... I have another disk with edgy on it... (hdd) I can see HDC1 in disk and file systems, how do I mount hdc1 so I can access files there (so I can back them up)
[09:57] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: graphically through kmenu/system settings/advanced/disks and filesystems
[09:58] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: need to switch to admin mode, then
[09:58] <jastengel> kk in admin
[09:58] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: click the entry, click modify, then point to a folder where you want the item mounted
[10:01] <jastengel> kk did that... then I went into the directory and it didnt work
[10:01] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: apparently not following one of the provided guides. my guess is that you need to set up the correct permissions
[10:01] <jastengel> ummm how do I do that?
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: open konsole. type mount             then pastebin the result
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | jastengel
[10:02] <ubotu> jastengel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:06] <jastengel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43396/
[10:07] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: so what happens when you perform ls -lh /home/jasen/Desktop/old
[10:09] <jastengel> "no such file or directory
[10:10] <noaxess_kubuntu> where do i see, what kubuntu version i have? 7.04 or 7.10?
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: had you made that directory? mkdir /home/jasen/Desktop/old
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> noaxess_kubuntu: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:10] <jastengel> kk.... when I brows it in disk and filesystems, it lets me see the file structure... (when I am in admin mode)
[10:11] <jastengel> but when I go into the directory directly, it doenst have anything
[10:11] <jastengel> I made the directory before I made the sim-link(is that the right term?)
[10:11] <alexander> !ru
[10:11] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: if the directory does not exist, make it. a filesystem can be mounted to an existing location, such as a directory
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> !mount
[10:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem.  Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[10:19] <Chousuke> oh, heh
[10:19] <Chousuke> too late :(
[10:20] <jastengel> is there a command to search for the .thunderbird directory?
[10:20] <kloeri> Jucato: he's already banned from the entire network (k-lined)
[10:21] <jastengel> <-- I am a nub if you havent already figured that out
[10:21] <emilsedgh> jastengel: find / | grep .thunderbird
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: home/user/.thunderbird/numbers.default/Mail/ folders you may wish to see
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> !email
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <kloeri> find / -name '.thunderbird'
[10:21] <kloeri> no need for grep
[10:22] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq    about backup, restore, moving, and so on with your thunderbird profile and email
[10:24] <jastengel> (back story, in case lurkers are curious: Feisty Fawn ate my Edgy install, and I am a nub who didnt back up his email before he let the machine upgrade... plus its my work email... cant afford to loose it
[10:25] <jastengel> the moral... backup b4 it cracks up
[10:25] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: but you have the backup of your old email so the task is now in recovering/restoring it
[10:26] <jastengel> I dont... I have the hard drive in a different linux computer... the one I tested kubuntu on before I put it on my production computer
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: you have a copy of the data.
[10:26] <jastengel> I have the data.... but I am having trouble finding it :)
[10:27] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: use konqueror, browse in /home/jasen/Desktop/old/home/jasen/.thunderbird/Mail
[10:30] <jastengel> .thunderbird is not in /home/jasen/Desktop/old/home/jasen/
[10:30] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: may be .mozilla-thunderbird
[10:37] <jastengel> it was .mozilla-thunderbird
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: and if you used the same username, restoring could be as easy as copying .mozilla-thunderbird to your new /home/user folder
[10:43] <jastengel> just a question... not critical... the attachments that were on each message... are they in the local folders directory? or are they elsewhere... its not too big a deal if I loose them... but if its as easy as copying another directory...
[10:43] <tala_> Hi all, i gotta a question, maybe someone can help me...
[10:46] <emilsedgh> jastengel: emails are usually in ~/.mail
[10:46] <emilsedgh> !ask | tala_
[10:46] <ubotu> tala_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <emilsedgh> jastengel: or ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
[10:47] <tala_> I use Kubuntu since 2 years, and i could configure all i did want (beryl, wine, Steam...), theres only one thing i couldnt setup... the sync with my pda...
[10:48] <tala_> I try It with SynCE, but it doesnt conect, I got a Qtek S200 with WinME 5.0
[10:48] <tala_> the sistem detects my device when i conect it at ttyUSB0
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: the way thunderbird stores the email, the attachments are stored within the files you see there in the directory structure in konqueror
[10:48] <jastengel> Thank you for your help WA, my data is safe!!!! I am in youer debt
[10:49] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: glad it worked out for you
[10:49] <tala_> I did configure synCE to listen dis dev, but it seems it doesnt conect the pda
[10:50] <jastengel> goodbye
[10:51] <tala_> have anyone anytime syncronized PDA with Kubuntu?
[10:53] <Lynoure> tala_: yes, but you need to be more specific than that
[10:54] <yeo_> hey all. im having a problem with my audio. - when im playing a song in amarok and i get a message on kopete the music cuts out when kopete plays an alert sound. and then music wont resume
[10:54] <Lynoure> tala_: unless it's a "has synched a PDA / has not synched" poll. Synching Palm was different from synching N800, and I bet others are different, too
[10:54] <yeo_> i'm guessing that kopete steals acess to the audio. but i thinking that shouldnt happen...
[10:55] <tala_> ah ok, i have a Qtek s200 (HTC prophet), its has WindowsCE 5
[10:58] <tala_> I can give you all data needed, i got it conected rigth now...
[10:58] <WaltzingAlong> yeo_: in system settings/sound system, under hardware, which audio device (auto, oss, alsa)
[10:59] <yeo_> oss
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> yeo_: try alsa
[11:02] <Alloosh> hi, guys, I asked this in #ubuntu with no result, I have script that uploads file, so the owner of the files now is www-data, and I want to upload them to the online server, and cant because the owner is www-data and not me, how to change the owner of the files?
[11:03] <dos> Somebody know, when kubuntu packages of kde 4 beta 4 will be released?
[11:03] <dos> chown dos filenames?
[11:04] <tala_> chown comand change owner
[11:04] <jasonago> I'm installing compiz in kubuntu feisty using adept...BUT I'm wondering why adept didnt include a package named compiz-kde...will that be ok? I mean will compiz run on kubuntu just lyk that?
[11:06] <dos> compiz-kde is only a compiz decorator manager with kwin  themes and settings frontend to kcontrol
[11:06] <ubuntu_> I changed hardware (video card, tested another hard drive). I returned original peripherals to original locations. I boot into Kubuntu 6.06, get the KDE logon but entering password just brings me back to KDE logon screen. I
[11:08] <ubuntu_> Any help available on that?
[11:09] <dos> Check for available free space on /home
[11:10] <dos> If it is not enough to login, kde doesn't start...
[11:11] <ubuntu_> There is more than enough space available.
[11:12] <Alarm> hello, is there any difference between splash screens and boot-splash screens ?
[11:12] <dos> Alarm - where?
[11:12] <dos> In KDE?
[11:13] <Alarm> kde-look
[11:14] <ubuntu_> Does that mean I'm screwed?
[11:14] <CyberFlux> what channel should i be in to ask about gaming tips?
[11:14] <dos> Splash screen is after you type your password in kdm and you are waiting to start kde
[11:15] <dos> Boot screen is when you are waiting to login screen - in defaults it is kubuntu logo
[11:16] <Alarm> i see thank you
[11:16] <dos> ubuntu_ - i don't know
[11:17] <dos> Try start kde in console
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> Alarm: yes; boot splash is when booting, normal splash is when loading kde (logging into kde)
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> !bootsplash
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> !usplash
[11:17] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:18] <ubuntu_> Okay, thanks. Yea, I tried in console. Same result, won't recognize password.  I've swapped out hardware before without a problem.
[11:20] <dos> I'll add - usplash is a boot splash in *buntu ;-)
[11:25] <WaltzingAlong> !info usplash
[11:25] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 152 kB
[11:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> my screensaver activates, about 1/2 hour later, I try to use the computer and xorg is taking about 92% of processor and it never responds. I always end up killing the X server and restarting kdm.  What could be the problem?
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: opengl screensaver?
[11:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> any screen saver.
[11:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have an AMD Athalon 64 3200, ATI 9600XT video card, 2 GB Geil Ram
[11:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> It was doing it in Kubuntu 7.04 and now more repeatedly in 7.10.
[11:28] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: even with settings such as 'blank screen' for the screensaver?
[11:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> Yes.
[11:29] <darlos> hey
[11:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> My system shows that Xorg is at 92% and it doesn't response or once the desktop returns, it freezes kde. I have to press CTRL+ALT+Backspace to kill X and have kdm restarted.
[11:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> have there been a problem with the opengl screen savers?
[11:31] <darlos> how kan i send email with kontact?
[11:31] <WaltzingAlong> darlos: kmail
[11:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> because I don't have that problem with my laptop.
[11:31] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: based on what you have provided thus far, could be any of a number of things.
[11:32] <darlos> do i have to download kmail?
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> !info kmail | darlos
[11:32] <ubotu> darlos: kmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2554 kB, installed size 7784 kB
[11:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> WaltzingAlong, would running a x86 version of 7.10 not run properly on a AMD64?
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> darlos: to access kmail within kontact, open the e-mail component
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: that should not be the issue, should work well
[11:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, just wondering.
[11:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> where do you recommend me to start?
[11:34] <wilson_> 64 bit if it's a server , 32 bit if it's a desktop
[11:34] <darlos> okhay i try now
[11:35] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: checking power management settings, disabling the screen saver but enabling power management (turning off screen),
[11:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I will try it once I get home.
[11:35] <pawan> hi
[11:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am at work right now.
[11:36] <pawan> how to automatically login in kubuntu
[11:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> pawan, check in system configuration and look at the login manager.
[11:36] <shaka> can anyone point me towards the right steps to get compiz fusion working on kubuntu gutsy?
[11:37] <pawan> there is no such option
[11:37] <nonewmsgs> anyone ever get the fsck.ext3: unable to resolve 'UUID=89e6b5....'/fsck died with exit status 8/file system check failed a maintenance shell will now be started
[11:37] <pawan> i am using ubuntu gutsy with kubuntu desktop
[11:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> under the advanced tab.
[11:39] <nonewmsgs> !compiz
[11:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:39] <berkes> is anyone aware of a good way to enlarge the swap partition on an installed system?
[11:39] <shaka> thanks
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: what size is it? a partition editor to resize partitions
[11:40] <nonewmsgs> use gparted to boot so it wont use the swap so you can resize it
[11:40] <darlos> do i have to rwite my email adress?
[11:41] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: it is now 580M I want it 1.5G or so.
[11:41] <darlos> i have hotmail
[11:41] <berkes> problem is, WaltzingAlong, its the first partition, So I am not sure if a partition editor (I use qparted) can do it,
[11:41] <berkes> without severe loss of data
[11:42] <RomeoOrdos> hi
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: one route would be to load from a livecd, use qtparted to resize the partitions as necessary, then reboot
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: and the amount of ram in your computer?
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: or how much swap have you noticed being used?
[11:43] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: 560M, so pretty small, wich is why i gave my swap the same
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: should be about right though
[11:43] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: it often is nearly  saturated, after wich the system gets really slow
[11:43] <pawan> i am using ubuntu gutsy with kubuntu desktop
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: a desktop gnu/linux is not ms windows
[11:43] <pawan> how to automatically login in kubuntu
[11:43] <pawan> how to automatically login in kubuntudesktop
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> pawan: at the login manager (gdm or kdm) select kde as your session
[11:44] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: yup, I know, Ive been on kde for nearly 8 years exclusively :p
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: then you may wish to grab another harddrive, perhaps one you have laying around, then use its 2 GB as another swap
[11:45] <berkes> however, 2x560M is not enough. Especially when I need monsters like OO.o and swiftfox/firefox. They tend to eat over 20% of the mem.
[11:45] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: good idea. Only. Its a laptop :)
[11:46] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: yes i think you could use partition editors to change the sizes
[11:46] <nonewmsgs> !fsck
[11:46] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[11:46] <pawan> hi
[11:46] <pawan> selected kde
[11:48] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: and using swap is slow, using more swap (more often) would be seen as a slower system
[11:48] <nonewmsgs> .j #ubuntu
[11:50] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: pastebin results from   free