[00:24] <m0nkey_> I've decided I've gone slightly nuts
[00:25] <m0nkey_> I'm installing ESXi on a Intel Celeron machine, where I injected the Realtek NIC driver.
[00:25] <m0nkey_> Yes, that nuts.
[00:31] <diddledan> java plugin is dead: https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/entry/moving_to_a_plugin_free
[00:31] <diddledan> m0nkey_: I think you're beyond help there
[00:34] <m0nkey_> Well, it installed and is on the network
[00:34] <diddledan> wow
[00:34] <diddledan> I didn't know ESXi even did that (installation. and network. whodatunkit?)
[00:34] <m0nkey_> admittedly, it's only ESXi 5.5.. 6.0 wont run
[00:35] <m0nkey_> Heck, getting 5.5 on it is a win for me
[00:36] <diddledan> I thought getting ESXi in general was win
[00:36] <diddledan> or lose. depending on your perspective :-p
[00:38] <m0nkey_> i've been screwing around with proxmox, xenserver, kvm on debian, etc.. but i just like esxi
[00:45] <m0nkey_>  and we start installing a debian VM :)
[02:59] <m0nkey_> diddledan, it was crazy.. but it's working
[03:00] <diddledan> \o/
[03:01] <m0nkey_> got a couple of VMs going, it seems perfectly happy
[03:13] <m0nkey_> diddledan, you downloading something?
[03:13] <diddledan> erm
[03:14] <m0nkey_> maybe it's not you :)
[03:14] <diddledan> nope
[03:14] <diddledan> I was having trouble with a video conference the other day too
[03:15] <m0nkey_> nvm.. i know who it is now :)
[03:15] <diddledan> oh it's your end?
[03:15] <m0nkey_> yeah
[03:15] <m0nkey_> I know who it is leaching shit off me now :)
[03:16] <m0nkey_> Anyway, tis my bedtime
[03:16] <diddledan> nn
[03:16] <m0nkey_> night fella
[03:55] <\sv> m0nkey_,
[04:09] <diddledan> how does that work? negative interest rates in japanland?!
[04:17] <diddledan> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_workstation_development_team_fired/
[04:24] <mapps> hi all
[04:24] <mapps> sup7
[07:35] <\sv> seriously.... all i want is a vacuum i dont have carpets. whys that hard?
[07:58] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:06] <\sv> MooDoo, mornin
[08:10] <Guest62408> morning peeps
[08:18] <knightwise> Tron Soundtrack ,Headphones, terminal window .... #amiahackeryet ?
[08:21] <MooDoo> knightwise: no, it's not 2am ;)
[08:21] <zmoylan-pi> it is somewhere on the planet
[08:25] <MooDoo> HACK THE PLANET HACK THE PLANET
[08:26]  * zmoylan-pi listens to wind outside and settles for nailing bits of it down instead...
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:09] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Fun At Work Day! 😃
[09:42] <MooDoo> it's only fun as it's friday
[09:42] <davmor2> JamesTait: how about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> today is watch people using umbrellas impersonate mary poppins day...
[09:48] <knightwise> zmoylan-piha
[10:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:19] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[10:21] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[10:24] <MooDoo> howdy
[13:11] <knightwise> Ranger is a pretty sweet filebrowser :)
[13:46]  * brobostigon neds to write up a bug on ubuntu touch, r227 breaks bluetooth.
[13:46] <brobostigon> needs*
[13:50] <popey> brobostigon, i think it's known. saw someone else mention it
[13:51] <brobostigon> popey: ah ok, thats good its known.
[13:52] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libhybris/+bug/1539566
[13:52] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 1539566 in Canonical System Image "Bluetooth dead on mako and flo." [Critical,New]
[13:53] <brobostigon> ah thank you.
[13:53] <davmor2> yay my bug is popular who'd of thunk it
[13:54] <davmor2> brobostigon: 227 on what channel
[13:55] <brobostigon> davmor2: rc-proposed.
[13:55] <davmor2> brobostigon: what device?
[13:56] <brobostigon> mako
[13:57] <davmor2> brobostigon: so it is the bq-aquaris channel not the rc-proposed channel phew yeap same issue, libhybris broked it should be fixed on Tuesday image, or you can roll back 3 images if you need bt working now
[14:02] <brobostigon> davmor2: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/mako/ it seems to be that channel. ah i see, oh dear. thank you.
[15:38] <diddledan> morning
[15:39] <davmor2> diddledan: Morning
[17:51] <davmor2> MOOOOOOO!
[17:58] <diddledan> dooooo
[17:59] <davmor2> diddledan: :)
[18:02] <shauno> revisting an old question .. any recommendations for email apps on ubuntu phone yet?  (other than dekko ..)
[18:03] <diddledan> omg
[18:03]  * diddledan prods shauno to see if the apparition is real
[18:03] <shauno> moo.
[18:03] <diddledan> o/
[18:04] <diddledan> I think the standard answer is "just use dekko"
[18:04] <diddledan> though I don't really know much about the phone
[18:04] <shauno> I've tried, it doesn't work
[18:05] <shauno> (it gets an "unexpectedhere: could not parse list: expected a list" when it tries to list folders.  apparently dovecot's a little too esoteric for it)
[18:06] <diddledan> weird
[18:14] <shauno> my phone's off being fixed, so this is all I've got 'till friday.  and .. well I didn't expect much.  but it still didn't deliver
[18:15] <shauno> sms works though!  that was first on my very short list.  3g kinda works, once you figure out how to trick it into working.  email doesn't, and jabber doesn't exist.
[18:16] <diddledan> :-(
[18:16] <diddledan> grade C-: must try harder?
[18:19] <zmoylan-pi> no web interface for the email service?
[18:19]  * zmoylan-pi slums it with gmail in opera since ms killed the nokia mail service that was a nice little app
[18:20] <diddledan> opera? oh yeah, you use idiots phones
[18:20] <diddledan> :-p
[18:20] <zmoylan-pi> wanna play phone conkers? you hit my phone with your phone, i hit your phone with my phone.  we'll see which one wins... :-D
[18:21] <diddledan> bonkers conkers
[18:53] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: your on http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/74/32/63440132340612/0/from-backpack-transceiver-smartphone-visual-history-mobile-phone.w654.jpg :D
[18:55] <zmoylan-pi> that's just a battery pack... i reckon my nokia can take it... :-)
[19:01] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: no the whole thing it the phone the receiver part is just that so it is battery and transceiver and aerial etc
[19:03] <m6lpi> \sv: hey
[19:05] <davmor2> hello
[19:06] <\sv> m6lpi, hey
[19:07] <m6lpi> how goes?
[19:07] <\sv> its ok neil
[19:11] <m6lpi> good good
[19:14] <popey> ebenink!
[19:15] <m6lpi> ?
[19:15] <m6lpi> popey: you drunk again ?
[19:15] <popey> "again"
[19:16] <popey> No ossifer, I'm drunk dink
[19:17] <m6lpi> though in fairness you were well behaved at oggcamp
[19:20] <diddledan> wait, it's Friday.. what are you all doing being social and drinking alcohol for?!
[19:20] <diddledan> Friday is coding night
[19:21] <diddledan> and Saturday is sleep after coding till 5am
[19:22] <diddledan> were there any recordings made of the ubucon@scale?
[19:22] <Myrtti> it's also FOSDEM, I'm told
[19:22] <Myrtti> so is it the Belgian beer?
[19:23] <zmoylan-pi> nah, he's drinking imported british beer... :-)
[21:19] <diddledan> beeer
[21:19] <diddledan> I have none :-(
[21:22] <brobostigon> :(
[21:22]  * brobostigon points at his crate of franziskaner in the kitchen, and gets diddledan one.
[21:22] <diddledan> \o/
[21:22] <brobostigon> :)
[21:23] <diddledan> danke
[21:23] <diddledan> beer. good. me. drink.
[21:23] <diddledan> man. grr.
[21:24] <brobostigon> :)
[21:24] <brobostigon> yw.
[21:27] <diddledan> omg, blade runner was set 3 years from now and one of the replicants was created this year
[21:28] <diddledan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Blade_Runner_characters#Roy_Batty
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> and they're making a sequel...
[21:55] <zmoylan-pi> though i can't see any sequel making all the fans happy
[21:56] <diddledan> :-(
[21:56] <diddledan> they ruined it already with the many reedits, didn't they?
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> well.... if you don't like one version of blade runner you can always wait for the next one... :-)
[22:02] <zmoylan-pi> the first one was special as there was nothing else like it at the time...
[22:03] <zmoylan-pi> first dvd i bought when i finally got a dvd player...
[22:04] <diddledan> I think the first DVD I acquired was a bundled jobby with my DVD drive
[22:04] <diddledan> specifically sphere, iirc
[22:04] <diddledan> I had the blade runner game as the first DVD-based game that I played


[07:36] <DanChapman> Good Morning all :-)
[10:53] <jamespage> is there a way to get more debug from DEP-8 tests running in the qalab?  I can't reproduce the squid3/amd64 test failure locally
[14:48] <DanChapman> afternoon all
[14:48] <smartboyhw> Hello DanChapman
[14:48] <smartboyhw> Where's balloons？
[14:49] <DanChapman> hey smartboyhw. No idea
[14:52]  * balloons is hiding from smartboyhw
[14:52] <balloons> :-p
[14:53] <smartboyhw> balloons, boo
[15:24] <slickymaster> good afternoon
[15:28] <balloons> howdy slickymaster
[15:29] <slickymaster> balloons: hope everything's fine with you
[15:29] <balloons> slickymaster, I'm here and alive :-)
[15:30] <slickymaster> balloons: ... and kicking, as always ;)
[15:30] <smartboyhw> LOl
[15:30] <smartboyhw> balloons, any good posts to upload to theorangenotebook?
[15:30] <smartboyhw> :P
[15:30] <slickymaster> smartboyhw, hi
[15:32] <balloons> smartboyhw, posts eh? Have you been writing anything?
[15:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, I will write something soon enough, but what about you?
[15:32] <balloons> I've been prepping for a little away time actually.. trying to clean up loose ends
[15:32] <balloons> I was hoping to yes
[16:11] <DanChapman> balloons, hey. I have a question, what would be classed as 'sustained and significant contributions' for ubuntu membership? anyway will have gedit ready for review soon. Got a bit held up today so couldn't get on it this morning
[16:13] <balloons> DanChapman, I would happily give you a testimonial for membership.. Basically, the membership board reviews potential members I think once a month. There's a little bit of work for you to do.. make a wiki page about you and ask for testimonials from others to attest to your work and contributions
[16:14] <balloons> typically they look for people who have been active and contributing for a little while.. the timeframe and level of contribution isn't hard defined; it's ultimately up to the membership board. That said, you've certainly been a wonderful contributor :-)
[16:14] <elfy> DanChapman: always useful to have testimonials from existing members as well - so you an count me in
[16:23] <DanChapman> awesome cheers balloons and elfy, well i see it says the wiki page says its rare that applications are accepted for contributions less than 6 months so i will probably wait for a while
[16:24] <DanChapman> ooo i see summit is coming up soon. I liked the last one :-)
[16:24] <balloons> DanChapman, I'm not sure how long it's been for you, but you can start on the page and asking for testimonials.. and yes, the end of this month :-)
[16:25] <balloons> some things to talk about again eh?
[16:27] <DanChapman> balloons, yes i will make a start on my wiki page. Is there going to be any Quality community sessions this summit? there always things to talk about :-)
[16:28] <balloons> DanChapman, yes there will..it's about that time to start thinking about topics
[16:28] <balloons> so this goes for anyone, but, feel free to bring up session ideas :-)
[16:33] <slickymaster> balloons, when is it scheduled ?
[16:34] <balloons> slickymaster, http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[16:34] <slickymaster> balloons, thnaks
[16:34] <slickymaster> thanks
[16:38] <elfy> balloons: I shall think about that - depends on timing for me more than anything
[16:38] <elfy> I still am looking for the admin iso/package tracker :p
[16:39] <balloons> elfy, admin/iso tracker?
[16:40] <elfy> manual - it's been a long day for me ...
[16:49] <balloons> apparently me too.. I'm confused
[16:59] <elfy> I still am looking for the admin iso/package tracker manual :p
[16:59] <elfy> does that make it easier
[17:04] <DanChapman> balloons, gedit ready for you when you get a moment
[17:10] <balloons> DanChapman, aye
[17:30] <balloons> k, review time for gedit
[17:30] <DanChapman> sweet :-)
[17:31] <balloons> I'm guessing it should be a quick one, as you've just added the couple bits :-)
[17:32] <DanChapman> yeah just two more tests added and the is_focus changes
[17:32] <balloons> btw, I like your samples.. humor is always helpful :-)
[17:34] <DanChapman> :-) well i couldn't leave them empty
[17:43] <elfy> balloons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1205013
[17:43] <elfy> is your idea as simple as removing the persistence bit from the livecd testcase and creating a new one for it?
[17:44] <elfy> that would be mine
[17:54] <slickymaster> cy guys, got go
[18:15] <balloons> elfy, yea, I think that sounds fine
[18:15] <balloons> DanChapman, your approved mate
[18:17] <DanChapman> balloons, :-) awesome.  cheers
[18:34] <DanChapman> balloons, do you want me to merge gedit?
[18:34] <balloons> DanChapman, if you don't mind
[18:34] <DanChapman> yeah no probs :-)
[18:35] <balloons> I know it's kind of funny to merge your own stuff, but I've been spoiled by you doing it, hah
[18:35] <balloons> mostly though I don't want to make a mistake, and I've got alot of code open
[18:40] <DanChapman> balloons, lol ok all merged. Next on my list for the gtk apps is get nautilus done. I haven't heard from Vas recently so not sure what his plans are
[18:41] <balloons> DanChapman, yea, I would move forward on nautilus. Giving nautilus the same treatment as gedit is sure to uncover some bugs though, so be careful
[18:44] <DanChapman> balloons, will do :-)  i presume jibel is on leave this week. So i will leave my ubiquity probs til he gets back, should give me enough time to get a test together for nautilus.
[18:45] <balloons> there you go
[19:25] <elfy> balloons: pushed them both up for review now - set you as reviewer - I'll wait for comment and deal with them as I see them
[19:44] <phillw> balloons: have you seen a merge request from Markus re: lxkeymap and lxsessions-edit ?
[19:45] <elfy> I have seen them phillw
[19:46] <phillw> elfy: okies, Not sure how I missed them in my emails :/
[19:46] <elfy> couple of days gone now
[19:48] <phillw> yeah email dated 10 hours ago stated yesterday.... never quite sure when that is with us all different TZs :)
[19:49] <elfy> I see keymap almost 24 hours ago and the other at 7pm on the 12th
[19:50] <phillw> yeah, I see it now  Bug 1185965
[19:54] <phillw> Bug 1185968
[19:57] <melodie> hi
[19:57] <melodie> phillw knome ?
[19:59] <elfy> hi melodie
[20:00] <melodie> hello elfy
[20:00] <melodie> I was wondering if someone saw my late messages the other day, about some typos to be corrected, in the wiki?
[20:00] <elfy> I didn't
[20:01] <elfy> melodie: have you got a launchpad account? if you have you can login and change typos easily enough
[20:01] <melodie> I could repeat it now, is anyone here likely to modify the wiki?
 coming by just for a typo here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence
 s/and execute the testcases for the iso and report there results to the tracker. /and execute the testcases for the iso and report their results to the tracker.
 their results and not there results
[20:01] <melodie> * chrisccoulson est parti (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
 another typo can be noticed here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware
 in this title: "How to generate and store a weblink of your computer's specications"
 specification and not specications, of course
[20:01] <elfy> you can do it :)
[20:02] <melodie> I have a launchpad account but for now I have a wiki to install for the linuxvillage community
[20:02] <melodie> (I am the mayor of the Linuxvillage.net place ;) )
[20:02] <elfy> nice :)
[20:02] <melodie> thanks
[20:03] <melodie> if anyone wants to grab the typos I pointed to and correct, my feedback is the contribution I can do
[20:06] <elfy> done them :)
[20:06] <phillw> melodie: it may be a grammatical error in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware as some people have more than one machine. e.g. I store my hardware spec and my standard VM set up.
[20:06] <elfy> phillw: there's no such word as specications
[20:06] <elfy> :)
[20:07] <phillw> lol, that a typo! but the use of How to generate and store a weblink of your computer's specification(s) may be more grammatically correct?
[20:08] <elfy> I'd not worry about it personally
[20:08] <phillw> are are we entering to the area of be pedantic? :P
[20:08] <elfy> I think so ;)
[20:08] <phillw> *Or are we*
[20:08] <elfy> or being
[20:08] <elfy> :p
[20:09] <elfy> pedants dream - ubuntu wiki :D
[20:09] <phillw> indeed!
[20:09] <elfy> at least we don't get edit wars :p
[20:09] <elfy> trolls are more than enough
[20:11] <melodie> hi phillw not pendantic, just grammatically correct would be nice
[20:11] <melodie> and fancy:
[20:12] <phillw> melodie: I totally missed the actual typo when looking for grammar... Such is the problem of being a trainee grammar nazi :P
[20:12] <melodie> I have been practicing English for years, and even though I am not at the level of someone having lived years in an English speaking country I can understand the words even with a typo (most of the time) but what about the kids who just started one or two years ago at school, or three years, four years? They won't understand the words with typo : English is for people from all countries
[20:13] <melodie> libreoffice with a good dictionary can be of some help to detect mistakes
[20:13] <phillw> melodie: so when ever you spot a mis-spelled word, please do correct it :)
[20:14] <melodie> so that forces me to connect to launchpad, then find a way to get back to the page?
[20:14] <elfy> I find it hard to notice a lot of typos - I'm better at writing them
[20:14] <melodie> not sure if that is easy?
[20:14] <elfy> melodie: once you've an account you can just login to the wiki and away you go :)
[20:14] <melodie> elfy just pasting the text in libreoffice and checking with the corrector can help remove them
[20:14] <phillw> raw editing of wiki does not have any spell check, which is why I always ask someone to check over any new wiki page authored by my self (In ubuntu manual, they have both authors and editors... the editors double check the spelling, punctuation etc.)/
[20:14] <elfy> in fact you might just need a sso account now
[20:15] <melodie> elfy I do have a sso account
[20:15] <elfy> melodie: then probably you can do it
[20:15] <phillw> melodie: you should be able to log into the wiki area in that case.
[20:16] <melodie> https://launchpad.net/~meets
[20:16] <melodie> ok I try
[20:20] <phillw> melodie: but if you find typos / poor structure and either cannot edit, or are unsure of what would be the best correction; please do feel more than welcome to drop me an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>directly. I'm a big fan of wiki area and don't mind where the issue is.
[20:20] <melodie> ok
[20:20] <melodie> do you use a gpg key for email?
[20:20] <melodie> I am a gpg fan
[20:21] <melodie> well I just connected to the page where the typo is and once connected, paf! redirect to the welcome page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[20:22] <melodie> this is crap imho
[20:22] <elfy> yep
[20:22] <elfy> that's the wiki for you - you might have to login again or now go to the page you want to edit
[20:22] <melodie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence
[20:22] <elfy> I rarely edit wiki stuff anymore
[20:22] <elfy> melodie: though - those 2 typos you mention I have done now
[20:23] <melodie> I am at the page I want to edit and I am still not connected: oh yes, seen this before!!!
[20:23] <melodie> elfy ok
[20:23] <melodie> I confirm even connected I am fully unable to edit anything
[20:23] <melodie> :/
[20:23] <phillw> melodie: I do not sign my emails, my email system is https access only, with secondary verification sent to my mobile (cell) phone when I log on from a new IP address, or every 30 days whichever comes 1st.
[20:23] <phillw> okies, thanks elfy I was just heading over to How to generate and store a weblink of your computer's specications
[20:23] <phillw> GRRR
[20:24] <melodie> grrr?
[20:24] <phillw> melodie: do you see the option to log on?
[20:24] <elfy> phillw: my speciciations? where you getting them from?
[20:24] <elfy> I suspect they are out of date
[20:24] <melodie> spe-ci-fi-ca-tions !
[20:25] <melodie> specification
[20:25] <phillw> the GRR was a copy and paste fail in answer to thanking elfy for correcting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence
[20:25] <melodie> or specifications :D
[20:25] <melodie> ok, but why am I not logged in when I change page from wiki ubuntu to a page inside the wiki ?
[20:25] <melodie> I would be ok to edit, but not if I can't login !!!! @ù%µ)àoieproi@@@
[20:26] <melodie> XD
[20:26] <phillw> you usually have to refresh your browser after logging in... those darn cookies :D
[20:28] <melodie> in which page ? I just opened a new tab in firefox, then pasted again the url from the page above sayd : and I am not logged in
[20:29] <melodie> I remember now having done that a few times before and never found how to get in
[20:30] <melodie> I'm there again after I remove all cookies:
[20:30] <melodie> "Yes log me in"
[20:31] <melodie> now from there:
[20:31] <melodie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=login&login=1&oidstage=1&stage=openid&janrain_nonce=2013-08-14T20%3A29%3A49ZGIFcj7&openid.assoc_handle=%7BHMAC-SHA1%7D%7B5203900b%7D%7Bp8BUEw%3D%3D%7D&openid.claimed_id=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.ubuntu.com%2F%2Bid%2FQwkzd43&openid.identity=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.ubuntu.com%2F%2Bid%2FQwkzd43&openid.lp.is_member=&openid.mode=id_res&openid.ns=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0&openid.ns.lp=http%3A%2F%2Fns.launchp
[20:31] <melodie> ad.net%2F2007%2Fopenid-teams&openid.ns.sreg=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fextensions%2Fsreg%2F1.1&openid.op_endpoint=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.ubuntu.com%2F%2Bopenid&openid.response_nonce=2013-08-14T20%3A30%3A09ZOyJizo&openid.return_to=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2F%3Faction%3Dlogin%26login%3D1%26oidstage%3D1%26stage%3Dopenid%26janrain_nonce%3D2013-08-14T20%253A29%253A49ZGIFcj7&openid.sig=gJsUSgXYhSFUy092FeowhnEyGbg%3D&openid.signed=assoc_handle%2Cc
[20:31] <melodie> laimed_id%2Cidentity%2Clp.is_member%2Cmode%2Cns%2Cns.lp%2Cns.sreg%2Cop_endpoint%2Cresponse_nonce%2Creturn_to%2Csigned%2Csreg.email%2Csreg.fullname%2Csreg.nickname&openid.sreg.email=melodie%40riseup.net&openid.sreg.fullname=Joyce+Markoll&openid.sreg.nickname=meets
[20:31] <melodie> how would you suggest me to get to the page I was supposed to edit?
[20:32] <melodie> (that makes me mad)
[20:32] <melodie> phillw next time I send mail to you, that will make it easier !
[20:34] <phillw> melodie: I just logged out and then back in. It took me to the ubuntu 1 page to sign in. Once I'd clicked continue - I'm back on.
[20:35] <elfy> whichever way you play it the wiki is a weak link and I'm not surprised people walk away from it
[20:36] <melodie> I don't know how you guys get into it, for me I can't
[20:38] <melodie> is it possible the problem is in the French version of the page?
[20:38] <elfy> I doubt that
[20:43] <melodie> elfy I don't know, all I can say is you and phillw can edit the wiki and I can't, even after removing the cookies and login in again
[20:45] <melodie> being tricky:
[20:46] <phillw> melodie: flush your browser cache.
[20:46] <melodie> seeking for "testing Cadence" in the search field leads me to a page, where I can click to that page now I am still logged in, but I still cannot edit the page by any mean
[20:46] <melodie> my browser does not have any cache, even in about:config : I do web mastering and can't keep a cache for that reason
[20:47] <melodie> no cache no dns cache, nothing in the hands, nothing in the pocket!
[20:50] <phillw> hmm, that's me out of ideas, sorry. I've had where the local cache was being used instead of grabbing the page after logging in.
[20:51] <phillw> does the page show you as being logged in?
[20:53] <melodie> with the trick it does, without the trick it doesn't
[20:54] <melodie> have to go, good night
[22:29] <phillw> balloons: I  got my 2nd interview for the computer engineer job :D Just got to diagnose a windows laptop for errors, strip it down and rebuild it under the watchful eye of one of their senior engineers..... YIKES :)
[22:30] <balloons> phillw, !!!!!
[22:31] <balloons> congrats! I wish you all the best mate
[22:48] <phillw> balloons: as and when you get chance, can you review the two 'lx' tests in the merge request? lxkeymap and lxsession-edit. As for making persistance a separate test case? That gets a big +1 from me, casper is a funny beast at the best of times and having it on it's own area does make a lot of sense to me :)
[22:50] <balloons> heard.. dinner time now.. I'll review manual tests tomorrow ;-)
[22:56] <phillw> go eat!


[02:15]  * daftykins parts the channel, puts his feet up and grabs a beer
[02:16] <pauljw> hey daftykins :)  been a day?
[02:16] <OerHeks> :-)
[02:16] <pauljw> :)
[02:16] <OerHeks> weekend support is awesome
[02:16] <daftykins> it sure has! out walking in the blustery windy island :>
[02:17] <pauljw> ah...
[02:17] <pauljw> was quiet here all day, daughter was visiting a girlfriend.
[02:18] <daftykins> peace \o/
[02:19] <pauljw> yeah
[02:22] <DosTuMai> Dammit.  Anyways, good luck with keeping your sanity together.
[03:26] <daftykins> TJ-: mornin' o/
[03:26] <TJ-> morning :)
[03:27] <daftykins> what funky hours you keep sir! ;)
[03:29] <TJ-> just got up :)
[03:29] <TJ-> You stand need to talk! :p
[03:31]  * daftykins blinks and looks at the beer can
[03:31]  * cfhowlett reminds daftykins that when you stare into the beer can, the beer stares back.
[03:34] <daftykins> ooh-err, and then i kill it :(
[03:45] <pauljw> hi TJ- , gnite all...  :)
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:10] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[05:10] <TJ-> morning
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks and TJ-
[05:10] <OerHeks> been buzzy with hosts file, works wonderfull
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: what are you playing with?
[05:12] <OerHeks> first i was looking at this https://winbeginner.com/block-facebook-hosts-file-windows-pc/ then added http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hostswin7.htm
[05:12] <OerHeks> the last one is an old trusted one, but not complete, i dig further in my archives ..
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: to block kids facebook time, is your purpose?
[05:13] <OerHeks> to block all facebook-crap
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> ah
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: isnt there like an easy FF addon for things like that?
[05:15] <OerHeks> i want to live in Belgium as they fine mark zugerflirk 250.000 per day
[05:15] <OerHeks> maybe .. i don't have FF
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ok chrome addon :p
[05:19] <TJ-> OerHeks: best trick there is configure it the router to point to a host on the LAN with a web server on it, and on that web-server's root but a static capture (using wget) of the facebook log-in page, and watch folks get REALLY confused and mad at facebook being broken for so long :)
[05:20] <OerHeks> oh, i usually do that with google
[05:20] <OerHeks> :-
[05:20] <OerHeks> D
[05:20] <OerHeks> SSID "thisisnotfreeinternet"
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> did FF have plans to integrated webcam? anyone tested this?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[05:21] <TJ-> webRTC, yes
[05:22] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: jinx :)
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> not that im gonna use it :p
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> sounds more like a hacker feast to me, abusing 0day webcam exploit to watch their victims
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> in our country, the police received new android phones that are really exploitable...lol
[05:34] <OerHeks> nom nom nom ... wikileaks ANNOUNCE: Today (Monday, EST) we release 30 hours of tapes related to a billion dollar corruption scandal with links to the White House.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> oh oh
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> the world gonna shake
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> finaly the top dogs to blame
[05:36] <OerHeks> it is *just* a billion, lotuspsychje
[05:36] <OerHeks> :-D
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: that ammount is on my daily account pffft
[05:36] <OerHeks> but i think it is oke, to get this in the open.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> of course unmasking the elite is always a win
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> but, i wonder how much is gonna change after...
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> if someone get sued, they just pay the fine and done..
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> its such a dirty moneyworld
[05:38] <OerHeks> "before the world becomes one califate ... it is already divided"
[05:38] <OerHeks> :-D
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:38] <OerHeks> man is the beast in the animalkingdom
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> mankind live like beasts indeed
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> its time the ubuntu lifestyle takes it over
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> helping users with pc troubles always so much fun, you always run into personal funny stories
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> morning Latrodectus
[07:44] <Latrodectus> good night lotuspsychje
[07:44] <Latrodectus> lotuspsychje: guess who got a job?
[07:51] <Latrodectus> me ^.^
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[09:26] <Guest13239> Good morning.
[09:26] <Guest13239> Hey lotuspsychje
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> wb cfhowlett
[09:27] <cfhowlett> :)  yep.  Just can't get enough
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj
[12:42] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/birds-linux-6-0-is-a-distro-for-students-featuring-kde-plasma-5-4-3-496200.shtml
[12:59] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, interesting , are you going to try it?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: no, just saw plasma thought it might be relevant to read :p
[13:06] <BluesKaj> well, I'm a fan of kde 4 , but not the new plsama 5 on kde so much
[13:07] <BluesKaj> plasma even
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> i havent used kde for a long time myself :p
[13:08] <BluesKaj> that's why I keep a partiiton with kubuntu 14.04 LTS as my main stable OS
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> nice
[13:09] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 has dropped some of my fav features and added ones I will probly never use
[13:10] <BluesKaj> I'm quite disappointed in the direction Kubuntu is going
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: will plasma be default in the future then?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> it seems so, lotuspsychje
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: isnt there like a fallback or so? like gnome fallback?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> my issues with plasma5 have been largely ignored by the devs
[13:16] <BluesKaj> gnome doesn't have the features I like in kde4
[13:16] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, my sense is that there is an unhealthy amount of internal chaos on that project ...
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: no i mean a kde-style fallback to install if you dont like plasma
[13:17] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, there was, but it 's settled down for the time being
[13:19] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I wish that was true, i'd install kde4/plasma4 immediately if I could on 15.10 or even 16.04
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !info plasma xenial
[13:20] <ubot5`> Package plasma does not exist in xenial
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !info plasma
[13:20] <ubot5`> Package plasma does not exist in vivid
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !info plasma4
[13:20] <ubot5`> Package plasma4 does not exist in vivid
[13:20] <BluesKaj> bot is incorrect
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> got wrong packagename perhaps
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> !info kde-plasma-desktop
[13:22] <ubot5`> Package kde-plasma-desktop does not exist in vivid
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> !info kubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <ubot5`> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.323 (vivid), package size 4 kB, installed size 58 kB
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> its part of the kubuntu desktop?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> brb
[13:23] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, yup
[13:25] <BluesKaj> brb as well
[13:36] <BluesKaj> switched back to 14.04, so I can stop complaining :-)
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: :p
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: maybe xenial will have nice plasma features?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> I miss the different wallpapers for each virtual desktop on plasma 5
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> maybe TJ- knows a trick for that, he's on kde also if i recall
[13:59] <BluesKaj> it would be nice to run kde 4/plasma 4 on the newer releases , but I think most of the "improvements" are to the desktop and it's new look and so called features , otherwise there's not much difference in terms od real usage
[13:59] <BluesKaj> od=of
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i see
[14:01] <BluesKaj> in other words plasma 5 is mostly cosmetic in my experience
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> it all changed alot
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> !info kubuntu-desktop xenial
[14:17] <ubot5`> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.331 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 40 kB
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you notice changes on the xenial one?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, so far not many changes vs Wily, but it's still early in the game.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[14:33] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, pic of bug 1463112 http://imgur.com/qQXwGyj
[14:33] <ubot5`> bug 1463112 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cat sitting on keyboard crashes lightdm" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463112
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> hehe: http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-team-needs-a-cat-to-replicate-important-bug-496205.shtml
[14:38] <OerHeks> jups, wastrel is under siege for this pic :-D
[14:39] <cfhowlett> oh, the picture just makes it PURRfect!
[14:39]  * OerHeks thinks it is a selfie
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/art/BSDBox-with-Plank-572375842
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> pretty nice that plank
[14:57] <BluesKaj> gotta reboot ..new kernel version
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> ok
[17:00] <daftykins> i wondered why #ubuntu was so quiet, helps when you're in there...
[17:00] <OerHeks>  /ignore *
[17:01] <OerHeks> hihi
[17:03] <daftykins> :D hallo! how's OerHeks today?
[17:05] <OerHeks> Fine, did some household duties, now finishing my coffee and go for a walk to the store, food-hunt.
[17:05] <OerHeks> And about you ?
[17:18] <daftykins> sounds good! yeah just recovering from a long ride yesterday
[17:18] <daftykins> i was meant to do another today but i felt pretty lethargic so i got out of it :)
[17:18] <daftykins> carried on with my email support issue instead, weird one where a client couldn't receive or send from some domains
[17:18] <OerHeks> Snow is comming, so use these last soft days to go out :-)
[17:23] <BluesKaj> supposedly going to have a mild winter here in Ontario Canada, we could use one after the last 2 arctic blasts
[17:27] <daftykins> :)
[18:12] <OerHeks> Yay, fresh dogfood
[18:14] <daftykins> OerHeks: tough times eh? ;)
[18:14] <OerHeks> No, having guests ... ow wait
[18:14] <daftykins> but that *is* the guests! :)
[18:15] <OerHeks> got the 2 chihuahuas from my mom here, they really like Drabbers treats.
[18:15] <OerHeks> eating out is always better, you know
[18:16] <OerHeks> "neighbours grass is greener" ( funny translated dutch saying)
[18:19] <daftykins> hehehe
[19:32] <Latrodectus> there should be an entry for ubotu to not use enter as a punctuation...
[19:34] <Latrodectus> something like "!enter -> Please stop using enter as a punctuation mark"