[18:07] <ronaldprettyman> usplash is the package name, thanks anyway, yall have a goodone
[18:07] <te_> ronaldprettyman: I think the spash screen is called up by grub and so you might find a clue in grub.conf
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> yeah grub just has a line to file the argument to the kernel
[18:08] <orhan> this kmess works but i cant find the webcam options
[18:08] <Dulak> Just take splash and quiet off your boot line in menu.lst
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> its compiled into the intrd image i believe
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> but they changed the name of it a few time
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> s
[18:08] <mickster04> Thingymebob, idea?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok hold on
[18:08] <orhan> ok
[18:08] <lzm> can i get kde3.5 in jaunty? my google-fu is failing me
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> Dulak thanks, but thats a totally different thing, this is for a script, thanks yall, have a good one
[18:09] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Not yet, I'm slowly removing stuff to see when it breaks.
[18:09] <JuJuBee> Anyone have a suggestion as to how to add an old Parallel Okidata printer (laser) to Jaunty?
[18:09] <p_s> sebsebseb how can I install amarok 1.4 using the command apt-get?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> lzm: yes you can
[18:09]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[18:09] <te_> ronaldprettyman: make that menu.lst
[18:09] <lzm> sebsebseb: is there a howto about this?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> lzm: there's a remix CD,  but you can also add a repo
[18:09] <lzm> hmm
[18:10] <lzm> what repo?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> lzm: yeah if  you  get on the annoucnement from before on  the kubuntu site it will explain
[18:10] <sebsebseb> !kde3
[18:10] <mdm> !cups | JuJuBee
[18:10] <te_> JuJuBee: Shouldn't be any differebt than other printers.
[18:10] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Do other streaming sites work (youtube etc)?
[18:10] <te_> !printer | JuJuBee
[18:10] <JuJuBee> mdm I know, but I don't see an option for Parallel
[18:10] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah....
[18:11] <te_> JuJuBee: lpt
[18:11] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok uhmmm there's a program that  I think can do it, but  I need to find out the name again hold on,  also I know of one that should do it for sure
[18:11] <Thingymebob> mickster04: :-/..... still removing stuff....
[18:11] <elena09> my hard disk has 50 celsius degrees with ubuntu jaubty, and i'm just reading an article, why?
[18:11] <sebsebseb> orhan: ,but that one  is  closed source,  made by one guy, and can be a little buggy at times
[18:11] <JuJuBee> te_:  not one of hte device choices
[18:11] <mdm> JuJuBee, does it list LPT#?
[18:11] <JuJuBee> No
[18:12] <orhan> ok
[18:12] <mdm> JuJuBee, does the computer HAVE a paralel port, it is enabled in BIOS?
[18:12] <JuJuBee> Yes and Yes.  It was working prior to jaunty
[18:12] <te_> JuJuBee: What model is it?
[18:12] <JuJuBee> OL 810e (very old)
[18:13] <mdm> JuJuBee, is parport0 loaded as a module?
[18:13] <JuJuBee> duno... how to check?
[18:13] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok I haven't used it yet,  but  it's getting  popularish on Ubuntu,   it's going to replace Pidgin in Ubuntu 9.10  I think as well
[18:13] <mdm> JuJuBee, lsmod | grep parport
[18:13] <JuJuBee> 8.527442] parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
[18:13] <orhan> good
[18:13] <JuJuBee> from dmesg
[18:14] <orhan> ill use it also if it has cam and sound
[18:14] <mdm> JuJuBee, now check for lp
[18:14] <JuJuBee> mdm yes parport_pc and parport
[18:14] <JuJuBee> yes
[18:14] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok  nevermind,   the program I was thinking of isn't  quite it, but   emesene is,   I haven't tried yet, but I think it may be able to do what you want
[18:15] <orhan> ok
[18:15] <JuJuBee> [   10.471144] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). <- from dmesg
[18:15] <sebsebseb> orhan: sudo apt-get install emesene
[18:16] <mdm> JuJuBee, then go looat at /var/log/cups/error_log and see why it does not like the port
[18:16] <gladiator> hi .. i just downloaded 9.04 iso .. how do i burn the image on to a cd ? i am currently using 8.10
[18:17] <gladiator> would the Image Burner write the iso file or will it properly extract and write the image?
[18:17] <orhan> i connected there
[18:17] <orhan> but i dont see my contacts
[18:17] <sebsebseb> orhan: oh
[18:17] <fdelanoy> gladiator: most probably
[18:18] <gladiator> fdelanoy: ive only got one writable cd .. no second chances :P
[18:18] <mdm> JuJuBee, when you looked at dmesg did parport0 show a printer attached?
[18:18] <orhan> no cam settings here neither
[18:18] <fdelanoy> gladiator: no rw anywhere?
[18:19] <gladiator> rw?
[18:19] <fdelanoy> gladiator: read-write
[18:19] <fdelanoy> rewritable
[18:19] <gladiator> no. ive just got on writable cd
[18:19] <sebsebseb> orhan: thought I had lost you
[18:19] <JuJuBee> mdm http://pastebin.com/m48c3f5f0
[18:19] <gladiator> one*
[18:19] <orhan> im here
[18:20] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok  web cam in development for that one,  I just Googled
[18:20] <orhan> hehe
[18:21] <orhan> do u think if i restart the pc that amsn could work
[18:21] <gladiator> any idea if sudden halting and flickering of the screen could be caused by overheating?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> orhan: probably wont be as simple as that
[18:21] <mdm> JuJuBee, go into your BIOS and turn on EPP
[18:21] <sebsebseb> orhan: ,but  I know of a program that will do web cam for sure :)
[18:21] <orhan> ok ill try
[18:21] <orhan> i come soon
[18:21] <JuJuBee> mdm ok.
[18:21] <JuJuBee> Don't recall turning it off since I upgraded...
[18:22] <JuJuBee> I'll be back ...
[18:23] <Halitech> Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24 on i686, any reason why it would only show 1gig of ram with 3 installed? computer does show 3 gig on boot
[18:23] <ersin> How can i resolve Grub Error COde 17 ?
[18:23] <sahak> hello
[18:24] <sahak> In nautilus I can access a remote server either via sftp or ssh. Which one of those protocols is faster?
[18:24] <Thingymebob> mickster04: does eeebuntu have it own restricted extras package?
[18:24] <mdm> ersin, you have an incorrect device selected, most likly your boot partition (as in the root entry) in your menu.lst file
[18:25] <mickster04> Thingymebob, how do i find out, i dunno off by heart
[18:25] <elux> is the package manage on ubuntu and debian the exact same? i understand ubuntu uses debian' aptitude manager
[18:25] <ersin> mdm: i get error code 18 when i solve it i get error code 17, i do a clean reinstallation of sabily
[18:25] <Halitech> elux, yes, both use apt, aptitude, synaptic and dpkg
[18:26] <Milos_SD> Hi all... I was doing something with fonts rendering options (changeing .fonts.conf file), but didn't do a backup.  Obviously with all the dependencies
[18:28] <mickster04> Thingymebob, no, actually it has restricted modules not eeebuntu specific restricted extra's an the extra's aren't installed
[18:28] <orhan> it doesnt work
[18:29] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Are you saying ubuntu-restricted-extras aren't installed?
[18:29] <mickster04> Thingymebob, correct
[18:29] <hai_> hello
[18:29] <Thingymebob> mickster04: install them
[18:29] <elux> Halitech: im a developer, and i cant be bothered using 1 year old versions of software..
[18:29] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok thinking what to suggest and so on
[18:29] <mickster04> :D
[18:29] <hai_> u think i can now convert to windows
[18:30] <orhan> ok
[18:30] <ersin> mdm: im doing a reinstallation now, i will paste it when it is finished
[18:30] <mickster04> Thingymebob, i have to reboot due to updates too so will brb!
[18:30] <elux> Halitech: i dont mind apt-get install package/testing .. thats fine, but then if i run apt-get upgrade, it will try to upgrade everything to use testing.. ?
[18:30] <Thingymebob> mickster04: ok
[18:30] <omkar> hello
[18:31] <Mike_lifeguard> Does Gparted's "format to" option erase the data?
[18:31] <orhan> is it hurd to set up ubuntu boot vista
[18:31] <Halitech> elux, then you are thinking as a developer who needs cutting edge, not someone who needs stability. what about the people running Ubuntu 8.04? are they stupid for running an old version if it suits their needs?
[18:31] <orhan> and from there to use msn
[18:31] <sebsebseb> orhan: what was that?
[18:32] <orhan> i saw i guy he got in vista throught ubuntu
[18:32] <Halitech> elux, there is a way of not upgrading everything if you have a testing repo listed but I'm not sure how as I use just testing myself
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: yes with enough RAM, you can virtual machine Windows
[18:32] <orhan> actually using ubuntu and vista
[18:32] <elux> Halitech: no they're not stupid if it works. but when designer a new product, i consider the new features of the services available to me and leverage them to make a better product and then monitor stability closely and fix issues as they come.. but in my experiences nothing has been devastating if you have back ups
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: inside Ubuntu
[18:32] <orhan> this pc is good
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: how much RAM?
[18:32] <orhan> and fast
[18:32] <elux> Halitech: ohh you make testing your default branch for all packages?
[18:32] <orhan> 3gb ram
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok cool
[18:33] <JuJuBee> mdm it seems to have found it but test page printing gibberish
[18:33] <theunixgeek> Where can I get free Chinese unicode fonts?
[18:33] <Halitech> elux, it comes down to what you need and want in your daily use
[18:33] <Halitech> elux, yes I do
[18:33] <elux> Halitech: but testing doesnt have security updates.. no?
[18:33] <mdm> JuJuBee, that is a matter of selecting a proper PPD, make sure you select one that matches the capability of the printer
[18:33] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok many options then
[18:33] <orhan> guide me pls
[18:33] <sebsebseb> orhan: I don't want to flood the channel with loads of stuff though,  did you get my pm?
[18:34] <SurfNewsNetwork> holy jesus A_Yoshi is here
[18:34] <orhan> i need msn and i adore ubuntu
[18:34] <mdm> JuJuBee, also did you enable DMA for it?
[18:34] <Halitech> elux, yes it does
[18:34] <elux> Halitech: btw. what about backports .. do those original from testing?
[18:34] <elux> original == originate
[18:34] <Halitech> elux, I'm not sure on backports, I've never used them and I don't feel I need the latest and greatest when what I get installed is working the way I feel it should
[18:35] <Halitech> elux, if I wanted to be on the cutting edge I'd go SID or Sidux :D
[18:36] <tumii> Is ext4 faster than ext2 with / as mount?
[18:36] <elux> yea i dont need cutting edge
[18:36] <elux> i need a mix.. hand picked packages
[18:37] <JuJuBee> mdm thanks, was the wron ppd.  I chose 810 ps/foomatic or something like that.  Switched to 800 laserjet.
[18:37] <Mike_lifeguard> tumii: you should check actual benchmarks
[18:37] <JuJuBee> Working :)
[18:37] <tumii> Mike_lifeguard: where
[18:37] <Halitech> elux, then Debian would be the better way to go as from what I know (and I stand to be corrected) there is no easy way to get packages from a newer version of ubuntu without PPA or backports which aren;t from Canocal
[18:37] <mdm> JuJuBee, im glad it works, also if you did not already do so, enable DMA for the EPP on that port
[18:38] <elux> i see. good to know
[18:38] <elux> i was interested in the differences. thanks for the talk
[18:38] <Mike_lifeguard> tumii: http://lmgtfy.org?q=ext4+benchmarks
[18:38] <JuJuBee> K, I will go back and check.  Weird, I never changed the settings in bios.
[18:38] <tumii> Mike_lifeguard, thanks
[18:39] <mdm> JuJuBee, DMA is not necessary.  Its just nice to have so you dont hold up your kernel while sending bits to the printer
[18:39] <mdm> err im sorry its pralel, sending bytes
[18:41] <fuffalo> has anyone here used the opensource package emailrelay?  I'm having problems with it timing out when a filter takes more than ~33 seconds
[18:41] <silidan> is there a way to automatically rebuild the tree /var/cache ?
[18:41] <mickster04> Thingymebob, no luck :( neither plays, still same as before
[18:41] <lianimator> in Kino, when I imported a wide screen video, it became squeezed into a 4:3 ratio, how do I change back?
[18:42] <mdm> silidan, ????
[18:43] <silidan> yea i was stupid enough to delete all that has been in /var/cache now my system is screwed
[18:43] <chetnick> When i add vga option to grub menu.lst, i get a blank screen. I tried vga=791, vga=792, and vga=793. I am guessing that those codes are nots supported by my monitor. What code should i use for 24" wide screen. That is my guess, maybe that is not problem at all. vga=791 works just fine on my laptop. Thanks
[18:43] <shuan> Hi everyone
[18:43] <mdm> silidan, reboot the system qand crash recover everything that you just wiped out its runing cache.  Most thing can recover from that
[18:44] <shuan> I would like to know if i can possibly enable ntfs file system as im running a dual boot with vista
[18:44] <dgilpin> hey, can't remember who helped me with the pidgin issue
[18:44] <dgilpin> thanks
[18:44] <silidan> how?
[18:44] <dgilpin> it worked
[18:44] <Thingymebob> mickster04: I'll be honest, i'm lost here and don't want to sit here blindly telling you to add & remove stuff, The only things that managed to break it for me were restricted extras and open-jre. I would suggest, if there isn't anyone else here who can help a post on the forums.
[18:45] <Thingymebob> Can Anyone here shine some light on mickster04's issue with BBC iplayer on eeebuntu
[18:45] <silidan> mdm: you mean by running dpkg-reconfigure?
[18:45] <shuan> I would like to know if i can possibly enable ntfs file system as im running a dual boot with vista
[18:45] <elena09> Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop
[18:46] <mdm> silidan, /var/cache is a place for programs to store things like state data and running data.  Apt put things like its repo cache output there.  You can rerun any program and it will recreate them.  Sometimes you need to trigger it, with an update, sometimes it will do it on its own.  But whatever you wiped out will make the programs unstable, reboot the system
[18:46] <mickster04> Thingymebob, thanks alot anyway!
[18:46] <mickster04> :d
[18:46] <shuan> anyone know how i can enable ntfs
[18:47] <silidan> mdm: i already rebooted and apt update only worked after i created the path it said it could not read (cause it wasnt there)
[18:47] <elena09> Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop
[18:47] <mmlj4> how do I change the locale settings, please?
[18:47] <silidan> mdm: nothing recreates itself, unless the path already exists
[18:47] <silidan> mdm: at least this is what i observed
[18:48] <TheMuffinMan> hey
[18:48] <TheMuffinMan> i need help
[18:48] <tw3akUrb0x> hello all
[18:48] <mdm> silidan, rerun apt-get update
[18:48] <silidan> done
[18:48] <mudkipz_lulz_900> lol
[18:48] <TheMuffinMan> i need help
[18:49] <mudkipz_lulz_900> u do
[18:49] <mudkipz_lulz_900> tylonol
[18:49] <shuan> anyone know how i can enable ntfs
[18:49] <TheMuffinMan> help
[18:49] <TheMuffinMan> how do u install themes
[18:49] <ABoba> shaun it should be enabled by default
[18:49] <mudkipz_lulz_900> same
[18:50] <TheMuffinMan> how themes
[18:50] <ABoba> shaun just try mounting the device and see if it works
[18:50] <TheMuffinMan> halp!
[18:50] <shuan> how would i mount it
[18:50] <derenrich> TheMuffinMan: calm down
[18:50] <silidan> mdm: after it was run finishing with done, i get without doing anything the following error:
[18:50] <Punisher> hola
[18:50] <ABoba> shaun is it listed in your places?
[18:50] <shuan> i can see 1 partition of my ntfs drive
[18:51] <shuan> the partition with windows isnt showing
[18:51] <silidan> mdm: Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket : no such file or directory
[18:51] <shuan> i checked system monitor and it lists both of them
[18:51] <mdm> silidan, restart dbus, also you may have to go recreate the directories by hand
[18:52] <daviddolphin> is there an off topic ubuntu channel?
[18:52] <ABoba> shaun you using jaunty?
[18:52] <silidan> mdm: no shit?, that was why i was asking if there is an automated way of doing all this
[18:52] <Titan8990_> !offtopic
[18:52] <tw3akUrb0x> #ubuntu-offtopie
[18:52] <shuan> yes jaunty
[18:52] <tw3akUrb0x> ubuntu-offtopic
[18:52] <mdm> silidan, yes reinstall the OS.  we call this a learning experience
[18:52] <tw3akUrb0x> <<<<<<<< pro at reinstall LOL
[18:53] <tw3akUrb0x> defined newb
[18:53] <silidan> but its linux its must be fixable without reinstall
[18:53] <Titan8990_> silidan, linux can always be fixed without reinstall
[18:53] <shuan> ABoba: yes jaunty
[18:54] <mdm> silidan, this is multiple programs that you have screwed up its running state and its data.  You can fix them, one by one, or you can reinstall the OS and let it do it.  Either way do not go deleting /var any more
[18:54] <ABoba> shaun check your messages
[18:54] <Punisher> #ubuntu-es
[18:54] <Titan8990_> silidan, but you have to compare a 1 hour reinstall to 12hr fixing session
[18:54] <Titan8990_> silidan, but /home partitions make OS reinstall nothing major
[18:54] <silidan> let me guess i will loose all data then?
[18:54] <Zzeiss> Yeah.  If you've hosed /var, it might be a better use of your time to simply reinstall.  Or find a machine you can copy from.
[18:54] <Titan8990_> silidan, did you make a /home partition?
[18:55] <silidan> i have no /home partition its all in one, sadly
[18:55] <Titan8990_> silidan, then you will need to backup prior to reinstalling
[18:55] <mdm> silidan, yes you will loose all the data in them, go copy your /home directory and /etc directory somewhere (home is your persoanl files, etc will allow you get get any custom configs back)
[18:55] <iaindalton> According to the documentation, "aptitude install gnumeric/karmic" would install the karmic version of gnumeric, even though I'm on a different distro, right?  I get "release not found"; do I need to add a line to sources.list or something?
[18:55] <mmlj4> halp! running dpkg-reconfigure locales on my linode fails, and I'm still getting "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory", when "LANGUAGE = "en_US.utf8"," and friends are indeed set
[18:55] <Zzeiss> silidan: Actually, now is an _ideal_ time to upgrade your machine, to put in a bigger disk, etc.
[18:55] <Zzeiss> silidan: do you have a spare / larger disk handy?
[18:55] <mdm> silidan, co make a tar backup of them, we call this a learning experiance too
[18:56] <Zzeiss> (usually, when I frak up this bad, it's time for me to make it a bigger machine.  :) )
[18:56] <Thingymebob> mickster04, you still about
[18:56] <silidan> a large disk, yes but its full and as second drive in another pc
[18:56] <xiong> i dearly wish i had some help with evolution -- online info seems to contradict itself
[18:57] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah
[18:57] <MK13> is the nvidia driver's .deb the same for kubuntu & ubuntu?
[18:57] <silidan> one question if one recompiles a kernel how much disk space is used at peak during compilation?
[18:57] <mdm> silidan, tar and gzip the files in home, store them somwhere else, reinstall the OS (this time making a seperate root and home parition) then reinstal and restore the backup
[18:57] <Titan8990_> MK13, yes
[18:58] <MK13> Titan8990_, can you not install drivers on a persistent usb made by the startup usb creator?
[18:58] <Zzeiss> silidan: Well, you might want to think about buying another disk then.  If you have no disk to spare, you have no room to play.
[18:58] <Thingymebob> mickster04: I think iplayer uses wm for drm so you might need w32codecs or non-free-codecs from the medibuntu repositories
[18:58] <Titan8990_> MK13, wouldn't know
[18:58] <mickster04> aaah
[18:58] <dtownhero> can somebody help me install a program using ./configure make etc... ?
[18:58] <mickster04> yeah tat could be
[18:58] <Titan8990_> silidan, 796M	/usr/src/
[18:58] <xiong> DiskDoubler!
[18:58] <Titan8990_> silidan, that sources for 4 kernels
[18:59] <Thingymebob> mickster04: worth a shot eh?
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, and binaries that have already been compiled
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, the actual kernel image is about 2mb
[18:59] <silidan> strange i tryed to compile the kernel and it ended up using over 4 GB and running out of space
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, you were doing something very wrong
[18:59] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah
[18:59] <silidan> thats why i needed to delete cache, to get my space back
[18:59] <MK13> what would cause nvidia's driver not to install on a persistent usb install?
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, and ubuntu does not have the best support for custom kernels
[19:00] <silidan> all in all ubuntu cost me alot of stress im about to install vista just to say ubuntus fault
[19:00] <edbian> silidan: Have fun with that...
[19:00] <Zzeiss> silidan: Well, I'd disagree.  But nobody can stop you.
[19:00] <mickster04> Thingymebob, will give you a shout when im done
[19:01] <silidan> ubuntu cost me 4 days to get the desktop properly running at beginning, and everytime there is an update something screws
[19:01] <mdm> silidan, go reinstall, putting about 25G or so as root the rest as home.  Pay attention to the size of /usr/src and /var/log.  But basicly you can spend multipel hours diagnosing programs, or you can reinstall the OS
[19:01] <Thingymebob> mickster04: cool
[19:01] <NickWebHA> Something very weird just happened with rsync and it has be pretty worried. I was syncing something from my pen drive (rsync -v --progress -h --stats -r -t --delete ./ /media/windows\ vista/_backup/64gb_usb/) and everything on my pen drive just disapeared half way through.
[19:01] <edbian> silidan: If you don't want help with an ubuntu problem than you're in the wrong place bud
[19:01] <silidan> ok will consider reinstall
[19:01] <NickWebHA> I have a half-completed backup now.
[19:01] <Zzeiss> do .fdi files automatically reload or do I need a reboot to make that happen?
[19:02] <edbian> NickWebHA: perhaps the pen drive filled up?
[19:02] <NickWebHA> Resulting in it wiping the whole thing?
[19:02] <silidan> well actually the help was just to say reinstall thats something id expect from a windows forum tough (altough i know i did screw it up that hard)
[19:02] <mdm> silidan, those 4 days is why I suggested backing up /etc as well.  Things like /etc/asound.conf, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, all of /etc/mail and /etc/samba are there
[19:02] <edbian> NickWebHA: Yeah, I know.  It should never do that.  Just a thought.
[19:03] <mdm> silidan, basicly all that "stuff" you configured by hand is there.  Everything else (like your gnome settings) are in /home so back that up too
[19:03] <silidan> i really regret switching from suse just cause of a memory leak problem... now
[19:03] <silidan> kk
[19:03] <mdm> silidan, then relay out the OS so you dont have to do this yet again in the future.  The more painfull this is the more you will learn
[19:03] <NickWebHA> It still says the 50GB is used on the pen drive. I just can not get a file list.
[19:03] <Dulak> silidan: it's a time thing, if you knew linux well, it would be a non-issue, but not knowing linux and having hosed the system so thoroughly, reinstalling is gonna be much faster than walking you through fixing everything that is broke
[19:04] <silidan> the funny thing is when i start gdm now my mouse and keyboard stop woring...
[19:04] <edbian> NickWebHA: 50GB pen drive?!?!
[19:04] <NickWebHA> 64GB.
[19:04] <NickWebHA> I am only using 50GB on it.
[19:04] <silidan> *working
[19:04] <Dulak> silidan: same exact situation on a hosed windows box, 6 hours to fix it, 1 hour to reinstall, nobody paying hourly is gonna choose the 6 hour option
[19:04] <theunixgeek> "only" ;)
[19:04] <NickWebHA> I wish I could get my hands on a 128GB. This 64GB has caused me to compromise on a few things. :-P
[19:04] <edbian> NickWebHA: I didn't know they even came that big!!  Anyway.   Not a single item in the file list.
[19:05] <theunixgeek> NickWebHA: do you not use your hard drive? ;)
[19:05] <mdm> NickWebHA, go get a sata drive and external USB enclosure.
[19:05] <mickster04> NickWebHA, are you sure its GB? not Mb?
[19:05] <silidan> o the .Trash another nice ubuntu issue, sometimes it ends up in homes trash sometimes in roots sometimes you need root rights to delete it... nice funny thing
[19:05] <NickWebHA> Between my 4GB Ubuntu-on-a-stick installation and my pen drive I can move to any PC and have my environment.
[19:05] <MK13> what is the command to clear the trash of a connected usb device w/out unmounting and waiting for the clear trash prompt?
[19:05] <edbian> Try perhaps copying something new to the drive.  Maybe the drive died in the middle of the transfer.
[19:06] <uma_> hello, did anybody tried to export sqlite db into mysql?
[19:06] <NickWebHA> I am sure: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220370
[19:06] <elena09> Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop
[19:07] <bjoern_> hello. i've got a question. i have read today that it is possible to make an iso file from the installation of ubuntu. i can use it as a live cd to. i have forgotten the name of the program, but i remember words like recovery and sys. can anybody help?
[19:07] <NickWebHA> Be right back. Am going to try rebooting as even thought I pulled the drive out it still sees it and refuses to unmount it.
[19:07] <te_> elena09: More than likely a hardware issue.
[19:07] <silidan> elena09: yea i heard of a bug or feature related to harddrives, somthing to do with powermanagement i think
[19:08] <edbian> NickWebHA: Very nice drive.  I'm sorry but I have no idea why it would blank the whole thing.  The rsync command is fine AFAIK.  Perhaps just run the command again.  Maybe it was a fluke?
[19:08] <mdm> uma_, you have to dump the sqllite to sql them import it to mysql.  Then you have to change any program that relied on that data to use a new source.  There are pleny of websites that show you how to do this
[19:08] <elena09> te_ I have Ubuntu jaUNTY
[19:08] <te_> silidan: has info for you.
[19:08] <elena09> te_ perhaps it is Ubuntu settings
[19:09] <aytekin_> hello there
[19:09] <tristanmike> Hi all :) I have a question that I would appreciate some help on. I have an ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe Motherboard. I have just purchased a new SATA drive (640GB) and I would like Ubuntu to see it. I've tried the command "sudo lshw -C disk" however it is not listed, which I suppose means it's not seen in the BIOS. The product page says it supports Serial ATA but the manual only describes the Windows installation, any help would be ap
[19:09] <tristanmike> preciated. Thanks.
[19:09] <tw3akUrb0x> hero what are you trying to install?
[19:09] <aytekin_> i ve installed amarok2
[19:09] <aytekin_> bu it dint work
[19:09] <samuelstj> can anyone help me with a choice about kernel? i bought a new pc, core 2 quad, 4Gb RAM and I don't know what version of ubuntu (32 bits or 64bits) choose
[19:10] <te_> tristanmike: sudo fdisk -l
[19:10] <derenrich> tristanmike: wait so does the bios see it?
[19:10] <derenrich> tristanmike: have you checked?
[19:10] <edbian> tristanmike: Does it show up in your bios post??
[19:10] <aytekin_> what sort of prob wolud be
[19:10] <aytekin_> what sort of prob would be
[19:10] <samuelstj> i also need to choose the kernel image
[19:10] <mickster04> samuelstj, what processor is it
[19:10] <Dulak> samuelstj: if you want to use all 4g of ram go 64 bit
[19:10] <uma_> mdm: can you link me to something? actually I'm trying to do this for amarok db following the wiki instructions but I get this error: ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 9: Duplicate entry '1' for key 1
[19:11] <Holek_> hello, when the final version of firefox 3.5 will be available thru repos?
[19:11] <mickster04> dulak surely he has to have a 64 it processor?
[19:11] <mickster04> !ff35
[19:11] <samuelstj> mickster04, Dulak,  core 2 quad 2.8 and 4 GB RAM
[19:11] <Dulak> mickster04: core 2 duo are all 64 bit
[19:11] <tristanmike> te_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/208337/
[19:11] <mickster04> oh ok
[19:11] <mdm> uma_, it sounds as if you tried importing it twice.  That or the sql dump come from an improper databse
[19:11] <MK13> !ff3.5
[19:11] <Holek_> mickster04: thanks ^^
[19:11] <Dulak> mickster04: or quad even
[19:11] <samuelstj> Dulak: and about the kernel image?
[19:11] <silidan> what packages are responsible for keyboard and mouse input?
[19:12] <mdm> uma_, however if all you are worried about is amarok just remove the database and let it recreate it.
[19:12] <Dulak> samuelstj: ??
[19:12] <te_> tristanmike: dmesg | less
[19:12] <Holek_> mickster04: simply just installed this beta package and was wondering if you know any ETA :)
[19:12] <silidan> i dont like amarok it feels so bloated
[19:12] <Dulak> samuelstj: You lost me, what are the choices?
[19:12] <samuelstj> Dulak: i am from Brazil, sorry about my english =D
[19:13] <mickster04> Holek_, nope sorry
[19:13] <Holek_> kthxbai ^^
[19:13] <uma_> mdm: I am just afraid to lose the data of the old sqlite db... anyway if i took the wrong database to import I already lost it :(
[19:13] <mickster04> samuelstj, define kernel image?
[19:13] <fantasai> my clock is often off by an hour after resuming from suspend. Can I tell it to sync via NTP or something, even though it's off by an hour and not just a minute or two?
[19:13] <mdm> uma_, however you may also be running into problems withe the differnces in sql from sqllite to mysql, things like the differnce between autoincrement and auto_increment (which is sounds like it did happen to you)
[19:13] <te_> tristanmike: See that the cable(s) are connected properly/securely. Look at bios for config settings that might have an effect.
[19:13] <aytekin_> hello
[19:13] <aytekin_> i ve installed amarok2 but it didnt work what kinf of problem could be , i dont have any idea
[19:14] <samuelstj> Dulak: i will choose 64 bits, but are so many kernel images in apt. p4-smp and k8-smp
[19:14] <aytekin_> somebody could help me
[19:14] <Jazzy> what is the default username and password for ubuntu
[19:14] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: How did you install
[19:14] <te_> tristanmike: Watch as the computer boots for errors or something indicating that the drive is being detected.
[19:14] <silidan> just to inform you i am now downloading the install cd for ubuntu 9.04
[19:15] <mdm> Jazzy, there is none, its why it asks you for one when you install
[19:15] <aytekin_> i ve installed over the synaptic pack
[19:15] <uma_> mdm: yep I thins so... the wiki just told me to "remove all commands beginning with CREATE, BEGIN TRANSACTION and COMMIT "and I did it manually...
[19:15] <Dulak> samuelstj: k8 is amd only
[19:15] <samuelstj> Dulak: ok
[19:15] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: what happens when you try to launch it?
[19:15] <samuelstj> Dulak: thx a lot
[19:15] <Jazzy> okay damn
[19:16] <Jazzy> oh well
[19:16] <tristanmike> derenrich, te_, upon boot, doesn't detect SATA, just my IDE and two ROMs (IDE)... in the BIOS, it doesn't appear that they have their own section, in the same way the IDE drives do
[19:16] <mickster04> Thingymebob, boh no luck, ill be ok without it on my laptop
[19:16] <Jazzy> PS ubuntu sucks
[19:16] <FloodBot2> Jazzy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <MK13> tristanmike, also check your master/slave settings
[19:16] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Thats real weird
[19:16] <mdm> uma_, about the only thing you will loose is your streaming settings (like podcasts), just rescan your library and resetup your streams
[19:16] <tristanmike> derenrich, te_, It should be noted that I currently have an 80GB IDE drive which Ubuntu currently resides
[19:17] <m477> #e-drama
[19:17] <derenrich> tristanmike: well it's not an ubuntu problem. master slave won't matter since it's sata...
[19:17] <aytekin_> while launching list of the track just skimming and  vent playing
[19:17] <m477> #java
[19:17] <aytekin_> it oesnt play the list
[19:17] <tristanmike> derenrich, right, it's more of a "how do I get Ubuntu to see it" kinda thing
[19:17] <aytekin_> it doesnt play the list
[19:18] <derenrich> tristanmike: you've gone into the bios settings right? not just looking at the post results?
[19:18] <uma_> mdm: I don't have any, I just lost the ratings (stars, etc) I just don't understand if switching to mysql did substitute my old file "collection.db" with a new one
[19:18] <derenrich> tristanmike: your bios can't see it, so clearly ubuntu can't
[19:18] <mickster04> Thingymebob, if there was anyway i could find the error messages that would be gr8
[19:18] <aytekin_> there is no any sot of sound
[19:18] <axisys> !firefox
[19:18] <tristanmike> derenrich, yes, but it's not listed in the same way IDE is... that is to say, on the main BIOS screen
[19:18] <aytekin_> there is no any sort of sound
[19:18] <silidan> how much space does your /usr folder use?
[19:18] <axisys> !firefox-3.5
[19:19] <te_> tristanmike: Do you have any boot disks?  Like maybe gparted liveCD?
[19:19] <mdm> uma_, it did replace it, but it rebuilt it when you started amarok again.  It may just be that your library is small enough and your computer fast enough that you didnt notice
[19:19] <aytekin_> i think i ve shortage of codec
[19:19] <te_> tristanmike: Or a slackware CD, or... any other boot disk?
[19:19] <derenrich> tristanmike: well, do you know the drive is spinning up? working? plugged in? does your mobo support it? etc.
[19:20] <tristanmike> I have a live Ubuntu CD
[19:20] <derenrich> tristanmike: live cd's can't help
[19:20] <m477> anyone know name channel of java programmers ?
[19:20] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: What type of files are they?
[19:21] <uma_> mdm: I'll try to rescan without worrying too much and see what happens... maybe I just don't need this export stuff. Do you have a better idea?
[19:21] <aytekin_> mp3
[19:21] <jmite> If someone could help me, I'm having trouble with VirtualBox. I downloaded the new 3.0 version. Oddly, the beta worked fine, but when I downloaded the official release, the VM window is half transparent
[19:21] <tristanmike> derenrich, http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=wAsRYm41KTp78MFC  -- says it supports it
[19:21] <aytekin_> an other kinds
[19:21] <te_> tristanmike: Boot the live Ubuntu CD and see if you can find it.
[19:21] <Thingymebob> mickster04: stumpled on this, but I think we've done everything here http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=60314
[19:22] <tristanmike> derenrich, plugged in, check
[19:22] <mdm> uma_, no just do what you are doing now.  Basicly you will have to redo all your custom ratings, watched statitics and so on
[19:22] <kenichi_> hello, what's the proper way to manage /etc/alternatives?  (new to ubuntu/debian)
[19:22] <aytekin_> but while running rhytimbox, there is no problem with my mp3s
[19:22] <uma_> mdm: ok thanks a lot... nobody cared to help me in mysql channel :(
[19:22] <aytekin_> just i ve with amarok2
[19:22] <tristanmike> derenrich, working - well, I'm not quite sure as the BIOS doesn't recognize it.... te_, I'll see what happens when I boot the live CD see ya in a bit. :D
[19:23] <te_> m477 /join ##java
[19:23] <derenrich> live CD wtg
[19:23] <mdm> uma_, baislcy this is an amarok problem, not a mysql one
[19:23] <jmite> anybodie have any ideas about my virtualbox problem?
[19:23] <aytekin_> i think i ll keep searching over forums
[19:24] <derenrich> te_: a live cd won't help him
[19:24] <om26er> how to completey remove mplayer
[19:24] <m477> te_:  ##java :You need to be identified to join that channel , what does it mean ?
[19:24] <derenrich> m477: get an irc accoutn
[19:24] <te_> derenrich: Yea probably because the computer is not recognizing it.
[19:24] <derenrich> te_: ... he's just wasting his time now
[19:24] <te_> m477: So register your nic
[19:25] <aytekin_> many times i ve tried many ways, but no result just as old as
[19:25] <tonii> m477: /nickserv help, to register your nick
[19:25] <edbian> om26er: "sudo apt-get purge mplayer" will remove mplayer and all config files
[19:25] <m477>  /nickserv help
[19:25] <te_> derenrich: Well, we told him from the beginning so.... not much else to do.
[19:26] <davenpro> I'm looking for a howto on how to convert a default 9.04 install to netbook remix
[19:26] <om26er> edbian: thanx
[19:26] <davenpro> not finding anything
[19:26] <davenpro> anyone know of one?
[19:26] <edbian> om26er: np
[19:26] <m477> tonii: no answer
[19:26] <edbian> davenpro: Just remove compiz and install the UNR package.
[19:26] <derenrich> davenpro: isn't there just a meta package that you can install (i don't know, I've only installed it directly)
[19:26] <alka_trash> is there a firefox 3.5 deb out there for amd64 and Jaunty?
[19:26] <davenpro> edb: from what I've read/seen theres more to it than that
[19:27] <tonii> m477: check "status windows" or whatever it's called :)
[19:27] <te_> m477: Go to statas page
[19:27] <m477> ok i know now , thx
[19:27] <derenrich> alka_trash: there are no debs out at all
[19:27] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: install phonon-backend-xine and remove phonon-backend-gstreamer
[19:27] <davenpro> reason I did normal install first is I wanted disk encryption
[19:27] <davenpro> so I installed 9.04 from the alternate cd
[19:27] <davenpro> now I want UNR :)
[19:27] <alka_trash> derenrich thanks
[19:27] <M1K3> how do you empty the trash of a mounted usb drive?
[19:28] <jmite> never mind, I fixed it
[19:28] <te_> M1K3: Probebly just delete .trash
[19:28] <codeshah> hey guys, I am opening a mov file but I cannot seek to any particular location or rewind...
[19:28] <iceroot> what is a good alternate-program for dvd shrink i can use with ubuntu? i want to copy a video-dvd
[19:28] <M1K3> te_, then it would be put in a .trash (eg. cycled)
[19:28] <thomc> which log file will contain a record of jobs performed by cron/anacron?
[19:29] <davenpro> I basically want this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/TurnUMPCDesktopIntoNetbook
[19:29] <davenpro> for desktop
[19:29] <davenpro> instead of UMPC
[19:29] <edbian> davenpro: I'm reading it right now
[19:30] <michaeltanaka> hello
[19:30] <dmelo> hi
[19:30] <edbian> davenpro: I think there is 1 package now that handles maximus / netbook launcher / go-home-applet.  Other than that all the tutorial says is to make them start when you login.
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> how can i install
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> what is this program
[19:31] <davenpro> edb: any idea what the package is?
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> wyta
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> tfw
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> ftw
[19:31] <aytekin_> hello again
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> hello
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> kkkdkdkdkdkd
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> GFasdf
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> asdf
[19:31] <FloodBot2> michaeltanaka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> asdf
[19:31] <kane77> how can I measure the dns response speed?
[19:31] <aytekin_> ok guys i ve solved amarok2 problem at last
[19:32] <michaeltanaka> Hello
[19:32] <michaeltanaka> What is this program
[19:32] <m477> te_ tonii thx i registered :)
[19:32] <derenrich> aytekin_: you fixed its inumerable bugs?
[19:32] <aytekin_> i thought i ve shortage of codec
[19:32] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: how
[19:32] <aytekin_> i was right
[19:33] <edbian> davenpro: See the line :  Automatically turn on the netbook apps...
[19:33] <aytekin_> i ll give a site address
[19:33] <tonii> m477: np :)
[19:33] <aytekin_> http://www.mygnulinux.com/?p=129
[19:33] <edbian> davenpro: No, I have no idea lol.  Try searching UNR or ubuntu-netbook or "netbook"
[19:33] <aytekin_> i ve just installde a codec
[19:33] <davenpro> yeah I have, just info on the 'main' UNR install
[19:33] <davenpro> nothing about converting/installing on a default install
[19:34] <aytekin_> problem was about codec
[19:34] <davenpro> wtf can't they just include disk encryption on all the releases :P
[19:34] <Kangarooo> is there ar gui tool witch also includes hddtemp ?
[19:34] <aytekin_> thx again you all
[19:34] <edbian> davenpro: It says soon there will be a package that does it all for you...  I think that package already exists and the page is outdated.
[19:34] <Kangarooo> davenpro: what encryption? in witch release its not?
[19:35] <edbian> davenpro: It's all just software packages isn't it?
[19:35] <davenpro> kang: full partition/disk encryption
[19:35] <zozo> hello, I changed motherboard and now network doesnt work. I think new driver needed, can somebody help?
[19:35] <davenpro> you need the alternate install cd to do it
[19:36] <edbian> zozo: Does your network connection show up in the nm-applet?
[19:36] <davenpro> which UNR doesn't ahve
[19:36]  * Stull1 Testet IRC
[19:36] <edbian> davenpro: Isn't the encryption done by a software package?  Does it have to be before the system is installed??
[19:36] <doomguy> help, i cant boot into any other resolution than 640x480 16bit depth. I can only change resolutions after i boot into this resolution but the screen is split into different parts. i m using the intel 2.4 drivers and intrepid version.
[19:36] <datacrusher> hi there. i had many problens with my audio and alsa, using ubuntu 8 lts, so i changed to OSS. everything works fine, games, audio files, movies... but i cant use some apps, like skype, and flash movies, they got no audio. is there a way to use skype and OSS, and watch youtube movies with audio?
[19:36] <zozo> edbian, nm-applet?
[19:37] <edbian> zozo: Is this a typical ubuntu install?  gnome-desktop?
[19:37] <confounds> anyone know what the default for logrotation is on 8.04? my system doesn't have the logrotate package/command, but it's been rotating logs anyway
[19:37] <zozo> edbian: yes it is
[19:37] <cyberghoser1> !lxde
[19:38] <zozo> edbian: network manager seems to fail connection
[19:38] <The_Techie> i shall be back one sec
[19:39] <wildc4rd> on a CPU usage app (gkrellm for example), CPU use, I understand sys time and user time, what is 'nice' time please
[19:39] <dusty_> what is the command to set flags on a hard drive?
[19:40] <jrock2004> Is there a way in ubuntu to set a list of sites that can be viewed but block the rest
[19:40] <datacrusher> jrock2004, its a whitelist u wanna
[19:40] <jrock2004> datacrusher: yes
[19:40] <datacrusher> is a single station, or got firewall and stuff?
[19:40] <edbian> zozo: Sorry I had to step out for a minute.  So there is a "wired connection" but it won't connect?
[19:40] <jrock2004> datacrusher: Well they are LTSP servers
[19:40] <derenrich> anyone use tripwire in ubuntu?
[19:41] <jrock2004> datacrusher: As far as firewall that has not been setup yet
[19:41] <datacrusher> hm... the easyest solution is a proxy
[19:41] <kansan> looking for some kind of counter ... that can count how many calls i make in a given day.. something as an app or as a gnome-applet woudl be great
[19:41] <zozo> edbian: yes there is wired connection but disconnects
[19:41] <derenrich> s/easyest/easiest/
[19:41] <dusty_> is there a tool to set flags on a hard drive via the console?
[19:41] <jrock2004> datacrusher: would I have to change everyones browser though?
[19:41] <rski> dusty_: hdparm i think can do it
[19:41] <datacrusher> i dont think so
[19:42] <dusty_> rski: thanks i'll look at that quick
[19:42] <datacrusher> u can create a single gateway, and pass all the stations trought it
[19:42] <davenpro> edbian: yes, it's an encrypted LVM volume so it has to be done @ install
[19:42] <datacrusher> derenrich, sorry man, english is not my mother language
[19:42] <derenrich> datacrusher: I'm just joking
[19:42] <zozo> edbian: i would like to keep settings and programs, everything works after MB change but network
[19:42] <datacrusher> whats the correct one? easiest?
[19:42] <derenrich> yeah
[19:42] <datacrusher> thanks!
[19:43] <edbian> zozo: It disconnects?  (Changing the motherboard should not effect any of your apps.  Those are stored on the HDD)
[19:43] <datacrusher> living and learning
[19:43] <jrock2004> datacrusher: so I would need something like squid proxy or is there a better one?
[19:43] <datacrusher> jrock2004, if you set this gateway to be the proxy, every security issue you alter will affect instantly all the stations that got connected throught it
[19:43] <datacrusher> squid is friendly, lots of documentation... will do just fine
[19:44] <om26er2> can any1 plz tell me how to set my other harddrive to automount at startup
[19:44] <edbian> zozo: Can you connect and then does it bump you off?
[19:44] <om26er2> i cannot understand fstab
[19:44] <dusty_> om26er2: edit your fstab
[19:44] <edbian> om26er2 I can!
[19:44] <lesshaste> well I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[19:44] <edbian> om26er2 see me pm??
[19:44] <lesshaste> any ideas?
[19:44] <zozo> edbian: i dont want to do a clean install. It seems to try connect then display massage connektion aborted
[19:45] <nub> i cant get wireshark to recognize my ethernet drive as a collection point.. are there any other protocol analyzers that are as good as wireshark/ ehtereal that i can install on ubuntu.. i have already tried the synaptics package manager but couldnt find anything.. thanks for the help!!!
[19:45] <edbian> zozo: You do not need to reinstall.
[19:45] <mickster04> Thingymebob, sorr yhad to dash if you had any new ideas i'd love to hear them but i havent yet recieved them:p
[19:45] <zagabar_> Hm, I seem to have a ghost here... zagabar1. It won't let me log in cause that is in use...
[19:45] <zagabar_> How can I fix it?
[19:45] <lesshaste> oops
[19:45] <lesshaste> I tried to restore debconf and now something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[19:45] <tristanmike> te_, derenrich, OK, thanks guys, you made me look a little deeper and in my manual, in a tucked away paragraph it mentioned jumpers...it appears that the jumpers were set do disable SATA. I've enabled them and now the BIOS sees it and according to "lshw -C disk" the disk is there proper as well, http://paste.ubuntu.com/208374/
[19:45] <mickster04> zagabar_, ghost them
[19:45] <edbian> zozo: Perhaps your network is the problem?
[19:46] <edbian> zozo: I don't really know.  Ask around!  Sorry I can't help more :(
[19:46] <mickster04> zagabar_, /ghost <Username> <password>
[19:46] <derenrich> tristanmike: woo!
[19:46] <derenrich> tristanmike: I knew you could do it!
[19:46] <lstarnes> zagabar_: /msg nickserv ghost nick password
[19:46] <zozo> edbian: my network is ok because i did a clean jaunty install too and there works
[19:46] <derenrich> :)
[19:46] <mickster04> zagabar_, sorry like lstarnes said
[19:46] <tristanmike> derenrich, Not without you all to push me a little further :D
[19:47] <jrock2004> datacrusher: thanks for your input
[19:47] <dusty_> it doesn't look like hdparm can set the "raid" flag. are there any alternatives? i really don't want to boot a live cd...
[19:47] <zagabar_> mickster04, lstarnes thanks it worked!
[19:47] <datacrusher> be welcome
[19:48] <dusty_> it doesn't look like hdparm can set the "raid" flag. are there any alternatives? i really don't want to boot a live cd...
[19:48] <xiong> finally found a decent vector graphics editor and it's been abandoned :(
[19:49] <wildc4rd> getting some skipping of audio/video in Totem player, is this normal behaviour?
[19:49] <dusty_> wildc4rd: are you using gstreamer?
[19:49] <ltcabral> can anyone point me a tutorial to set up a MIT Kerberos 5 server on my local machine?
[19:49] <n2diy>  I just did a fresh install of 8.04, and have the system up to date. I'm customizing my desktop, and when I move the top panel down to the bottom of the desktop, both panels dissapear, and I have to ctrl-alt+backspace, to regain control of the system. When I log back in, everything is ok, until I try to move the top panel again, what gives?
[19:49] <dusty_> it doesn't look like hdparm can set the "raid" flag. are there any alternatives? i really don't want to boot a live cd...
[19:49] <wildc4rd> dusty_, its local content
[19:50] <zozo> Is it possible to reinstall network driver? realtek rtl8111dl
[19:50] <deany> if PSD is for Photoshop, what is for Gimp?  I know it can save as PSD files, but it for some reason cant save layers that use the Dodge layer effect.
[19:50] <krammer_> You have mail in /var/spool/mail/krammer how can i open this msg?
[19:51] <dusty_> wildc4rd, what is your multimedia framework?
[19:51] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:53] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:53] <wildc4rd> dusty_, I'm pretty new to linux, how am I going to te;
[19:53] <wildc4rd> s/te;/tell
[19:53] <whole> Is there anyone on here that would be able to help me with a question relating to creating a custom liveusb?
[19:53] <doomguy> how do you choose vga=ask in boot menu
[19:53] <silidan> which linux distro will do best as low latency audio workstation ? (with realtime kernel)
[19:53] <kromar> hi
[19:54] <dusty_> wildc4rd, gstreamer is basicall the system that drives your audio system. it is the "driver" if you will.
[19:54] <davertron> hi, i just installed jaunty on my macbook pro 2,2, everything seems to work fine except i see no wireless networks in network manager and the networks are definitely there because i'm connected via my iphone; can anyone help?
[19:54] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:54] <kromar> i installed a wrong gpu driver and now my display is all fancy colors and screwed u, how can i fix that?
[19:54] <lesshaste> can anyone help with this ? http://pastebin.ca/1482194
[19:54] <davertron> also, the "wireless" section that shows up when i click on the network manager icon is greyed out, which seems weird
[19:55] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:55] <krammer_> kromar, unistall that driver
[19:55] <davertron> if I do "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" i see the wireless network i want to connect to
[19:55] <davertron> just doesn't shot up in network manager for some reason
[19:55] <kromar> krammer_: and how do i do that when i cant see anything?
[19:55] <krammer_> kromar, how did you install it?
[19:55] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive through the console?
[19:55] <kromar> krammer_: in the add/remove app
[19:56] <krammer_> kromar,now go back and uncheck it then apply
[19:56] <kromar> krammer_: i cant even log in, i dont see anything
[19:56] <MrQuietGuy> After today's update I have No Soundcard Found and, consequently, no sound.  Anybody has a link to the solution?
[19:56] <xiw> hello pals.
[19:57] <davertron> can anyone help me with troubleshooting some wireless issues?
[19:57] <krammer_> kromar, can you log into the console?
[19:57] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive through the console?
[19:57] <xiw> is there any simple way to manually change the Show Desktop button logo and the Trash Can logo in Gnome?
[19:57] <kromar> krammer_: yes
[19:58] <SnakesAndStuff> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.3, 64-bit version.  When I open up gedit, and then try to open a file from within, gedit crashes.  It does not crash when I do a "gedit filename" or drag and drop a file onto gedit.  It seems the open file dialog box is causing the crash.  GnomeBaker, gimp, other programs function normally it seems.
[19:58] <krammer_> kromar, log in as root then apt-get unistall <file>
[19:58] <krammer_> how go to go
[19:58] <krammer_> sorry
[19:58] <SnakesAndStuff> Is there a way that I can install packages with debugging symbols in them so that I can step it through and supply a core dump to aid in fixing?
[19:58] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive through the console?
[19:59] <kromar> krammer_: well i dont even know the exact file name... how can i find that one? o_O
[19:59] <MrQuietGuy> This thing is kind of a zoo!
[20:00] <davertron> MrQuietGuy: ha
[20:00] <davertron> MrQuietGuy: welcome to IRC :)
[20:00] <Alex1> Acnaven estas?
[20:00] <MrQuietGuy> Update just broke my sound, anybody have a recommendation?
[20:01] <smotchkkiss> hello everyone
[20:01] <naiad> Is there a way to force dhclient to look for an ipv4 address isntead of ipv6?  I think my router does not like 6 i cannot access my network at all
[20:01] <MrQuietGuy> howdy
[20:01] <smotchkkiss> I was curious if we could change the name to "unbuntu"? can we get a vote going?
[20:01] <trohs> Hello everybody, i have a doubt: Why firefox is not auto up
[20:01] <lwells> How do I get more involved in Ubuntu?
[20:01] <trohs> Hello everybody, i have a doubt: Why firefox is not auto updating to 3.5?
[20:01] <rski> !firefox3-5
[20:01] <lwells> I want to learn and help
[20:01] <lstarnes> !ff35 | rski
[20:01] <Alex1> Clarooo.
[20:01] <rski> lwells: feel free to do what you want :)
[20:01] <kromar> how can i get a list of installed packages in console?
[20:02] <lwells> rski, but how
[20:02] <trohs> ubottu: thanks
[20:02] <lwells> I am a NoOb
[20:02] <rski> lwells: well what do you want to doo
[20:02] <davertron> you can also install firefox3-5 pretty easily manually without mucking up your 3.0 profile
[20:02] <lwells> Help with the code somehow
[20:02] <smotchkkiss> I personally think unbuntu has a better sound to it. I think it would help people adopt this distro when comparing it to others. Where can I officially submit this suggestion?
[20:02] <naiad> ive gone through a lot of articles and it seems in 9.04 ipv6 is compiled into the kernel and people say you to install a different kernel to get around it.  either a newer one or one from 8.10  but i cant get online at all as it currently stands
[20:02] <rski> lwells: launchpad.net is a good place to start and look around
[20:03] <lwells> Look at code try to figure out how to fix problems
[20:03] <lwells> ok
[20:03] <Spike1506> Whats the best FTP client for Ubuntu?
[20:03] <robin_> anyone here can help i can get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:03] <rski> !best
[20:03] <nascentmind> hi. does anybody get part black screen with ati cards? what's the cause of it?
[20:03] <lwells> rski, you can participate at launchpad?
[20:03] <udettner> hi, i used launchpad app-collect but it pasted the data to the wrong bug. Its in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3d/+bug/75006 instead of https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/75006  how can i change this?
[20:04] <rski> lwells: yea
[20:04] <udettner> apport-collect
[20:04] <trohs> nascentmind: I've got it with intel card...
[20:04] <lwells> You can send messages that you want to get involved
[20:04] <lwells> ?
[20:04] <robin_> anyone here can help i can get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:04] <davertron> robin_: sounds like you probably have a non-native resolution set on that monitor
[20:05] <smotchkkiss> robin_: i'm trying to get a vote going to change the distro name to "unbuntu." I can help you with your issue if you'll help me.
[20:05] <nascentmind> trohs, i get this whenever i open firefox and part of the screen is black.. whenever i minimize maximize will it go away. does this happen to you too?
[20:05] <lwells> rski, launchpad is all Ubuntu code?
[20:05] <trohs> nascentmind: Because I've tried to install the drivers by myself
[20:05] <davertron> smotchkkiss: lol
[20:05] <kromar> how can i pause a output in console before it scrolls out of the screen?
[20:05] <trohs> nascentmind: No...
[20:05] <rski> lwells: in the ubuntu section, yes :)
[20:05] <Kangarooo> does somebody knows what is a load cycle? its something with hdd.. so it just works.. so how can it have problems? I just read that there were some mystic load cycle problems what can't find what is load cycle
[20:05] <trohs> nascentmind: But I'm almost sure you have a driver problem
[20:05] <smotchkkiss> I think it's close enough to the original name that people won't be confused, but more catchy in that more people will adopt this distro compared to others.
[20:06] <jrib> !participate | lwells
[20:06] <smotchkkiss> davertron: don't you think though?
[20:06] <trohs> nascentmind: In fact, I am sure you have a driver problem
[20:06] <marco__> hi guys
[20:06] <jrib> lwells: #ubuntu-bugs is a good place to start if you want to help with bugs (see the wiki)
[20:06] <smotchkkiss> robin_: try /nick unbuntu
[20:06] <davertron> smotchkkiss: but what will it MEAN?
[20:06] <signpost> I've got this software raid 1 array from another system that I plugged in.  I was able to assemble an array from one pair of drives, but when I try the second pair, it says "mdadm: cannot open device /dev/sde1: Device or resource busy"  Does anyone have any insights?
[20:06] <jrib> !ftp | Spike1506
[20:06] <MrCraig> hi everyone :)
[20:06] <datacrusher> hi there. i had many problens with my audio and alsa, using ubuntu 8 lts, so i changed to OSS. everything works fine, games, audio files, movies... but i cant use some apps, like skype, and flash movies, they got no audio. is there a way to use skype and OSS, and watch youtube movies with audio?
[20:06] <kromar> how can i pause a output in console before it scrolls out of the screen?
[20:07] <jrib> kromar: a real console or terminal in X?
[20:07] <tonii> signpost: unmount the hd, maybe?
[20:07] <trohs> nascentmind: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496 (have you already tried this?)
[20:07] <smotchkkiss> davertron: no one truly knows what ubuntu means right now; the meaning was lost in the medieval times. people would think unbuntu is just another mysterious word.
[20:07] <kromar> jrib: real console
[20:07] <signpost> tonii: not mounted anywhere
[20:07] <davertron> signpost: yeah, agree with tonii, sounds like you have that drive mounted or something
[20:07] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: have you tried running it from a terminal first?
[20:07] <jrib> !debug | SnakesAndStuff
[20:07] <kromar> jrib: i cant access the systemm
[20:07] <tonii> signpost: unmount it anyway, just for the fun of it :D
[20:07] <jrib> kromar: hit the pause button on your keyboard, or scroll lock (I forget which)
[20:08] <davertron> smotchkkiss: ahhhh, so why is it an improvement then?
[20:08] <signpost> tonii: did
[20:08] <MrCraig> From my win box I use putty to ssh my home server and tunnel mysql through - I do this so that the only port open on my database server is 22.   From my linux box though, I don't know how to setup a tunnel through ssh - can anyone help me out please?
[20:08] <jrib> kromar: why not?
[20:08] <MK13> kromar, you can use 'command > filename' to print out to a file and then look at the file (most of the time)
[20:08] <jrib> smotchkkiss: this isn't really related to ubuntu support...
[20:08] <tristanmike> If I'm filesharing between Linux and Windows, is it still recommended to use FAT32 for all shared partitions/disks ??
[20:08] <robin_> anyone here can help i can get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:08] <tonii> signpost: oh, then I don't know. software raid ain't my thing tbh :)
[20:08] <signpost> tonii: neither partition is mounted, tried unmounting both
[20:08] <signpost> blast! :D
[20:08] <tonii> hehe
[20:08] <shuan> Hi
[20:08] <smotchkkiss> davertron: it's purely a phonetic improvement. in fact, we could go one step further and call it unbuntun. that way we have the repetitive UN sound three whole times!
[20:08] <nascentmind> trohs, yes i have
[20:08] <signpost> it's my media drive :D
[20:09] <amireldor> MrCraig, check the -L option on ssh man page
[20:09] <lstarnes> kromar: you could also try piping through a pager such as less or most
[20:09] <jrib> kromar: seems like scroll lock is what you want
[20:09] <kromar> jrib: because i installed some crap app for the gpu which messed up my screen and i cant see anything so i try to find that app and remove it
[20:09] <SnakesAndStuff> jrib: Yup, tried running it from a terminal, no output that says why it crashes
[20:09] <MrCraig> ty amireldor
[20:09] <jrib> !fixres | robin_
[20:09] <Grab> hi
[20:09] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: the !debug link ubottu gave has repositories for packages with debug symbols
[20:09] <davertron> smotchkkiss: hmmm, i do kind of like that...
[20:09] <Grab> how can i search for a regex in nano ?
[20:09] <kromar> jrib: pause or scroll lock doesent work i cant pause it manually because its to fast
[20:10] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: you should see if it happens with a fresh new user too
[20:10] <te_> M1K3:
[20:10] <kromar> jrib: isnt there a command like in dos to halt after one screen?
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: what exactly are you doing?
[20:10] <tonii> signpost: sde1, is that usb?
[20:10] <trohs> nascentmind: i have no idea, sorry... keep asking
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: pipe to less as someone said
[20:10] <MK13> te_, ?
[20:10] <kromar> jrib: i want to list the installed packages
[20:10] <trohs> nascentmind: try also #ati
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: aptitude search '~i' | less
[20:10] <shuan> I have created a directory for my NTFS partition in the media folder and when i click on the NTFS folder it opens my windows filesystem however this isnt showing the partition in COMPUTER or my desktop
[20:10] <nascentmind> trohs, ok
[20:10] <te_> MK13: mistake
[20:10] <Mike_lifeguard> How do I update grub to boot from a different partition than it's set up for now?
[20:10] <te_> sorry
[20:10] <SnakesAndStuff> jrib: Many thanks!  I want to help, just didn't know where to start... Now I have a direction
[20:10] <kromar> jrib: what does that do?
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: why you would ever want to scroll through that though is beyond me.  Try it
[20:10] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: edit menu.lst
[20:10] <MK13> te_, kk
[20:11] <edbian> shuan: You mounted it manually?
[20:11] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: But what have you done?
[20:11] <shuan> yes
[20:11] <edbian> shuan: But it isn't in computer??
[20:11] <smotchkkiss> davertron: I think it's a worthwhile improvement. I understand there are countless places to update the name but the transition wouldn't have to be a rapid one as, at first glance, unbuntun /looks/ just like ubuntu; however, if someone actually takes the time to read it, they will be very pleased with its phonetic harmony!
[20:11] <shuan> no
[20:11] <shuan> its only in the media folder
[20:11] <kromar> jrib: because i dont even know the name of the package. how would you remove it if you dont know the name?
[20:11] <jrib> !ot | smotchkkiss
[20:11] <Mike_lifeguard> te_: on the new root partition? isn't there something like reinstall-grub command you also need to run?
[20:12] <robin_> anyone here can help i can't get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:12] <jrib> kromar: but there will be thousands of things on that list.  You don't know anything about the package?
[20:12] <te_> !grub | mike
[20:12] <smotchkkiss> ah i'll head to #unbuntun-offtopic
[20:12] <sagredo> hey buds
[20:12] <NickWebHA> I figured out my rsync  from the 64GB pen drive problem.
[20:12] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: Yes
[20:12] <sagredo> what's the deal with this compilation error
[20:12] <sagredo> -DDEBUG -I/opt/gnome/include    -c -o src/main.o src/main.c
[20:12] <sagredo> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[20:12] <sagredo> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[20:12] <sagredo> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[20:12] <FloodBot2> sagredo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <jrib> robin_: read the link ubottu gave you
[20:12] <NickWebHA> Ubuntu has a fit. A reboot fixed it. No data lost.
[20:12] <NickWebHA> ^ had
[20:12] <redsoxking> is it possible to have a ubuntu on a smart phone, I hate WM6.1
[20:13] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: There's grub-instal
[20:13] <davertron> robin_: what resolution is your monitor, and what is the video hardware on the machine you're running ubuntu on?
[20:13] <kromar> jrib: not really, only know its some ati stuff
[20:13] <Mike_lifeguard> right, thanks
[20:13] <kromar> jrib: or is there a way to roll back or something like that?
[20:13] <shuan> edbian: its not in COMPUTER or DESKTOP, only in Media folder
[20:13] <kansan> looking for some kind of counter ... that can count how many calls i make in a given day.. something as an app or as a gnome-applet woudl be great  (thats not a calculator)
[20:13] <MK13> is it possible to install drivers on a USB peristent install of Ubuntu?
[20:13] <kansan> is there a way to run firefox 3.5 on ubuntu hardy?
[20:13] <MK13> !ff3.5
[20:13] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: (The tab-key is your friend.)
[20:14] <jrib> kromar: I don't understand how you cannot know anything about what you want to remove.  Why don't you explain what you end-goal is
[20:14]  * smotchkkiss invites davertron to #unbuntun and #unbuntun-offtopic
[20:14] <tristanmike> If I'm filesharing between Linux and Windows, is it still recommended to use FAT32 for all shared partitions/disks ??
[20:14] <Devon_C> hey guys, I'm having some trouble with Firefox right now. Whenever I go to forzamotorsport.net I get stuck in a loop with a dialogue box that asks me if I want to continue even though there's a possibility of being on an unencrypted connection
[20:14] <edbian> shuan: I'm not sure.  That is strange. :/
[20:14] <Devon_C> I disabled all the dialogue boxes
[20:14] <Devon_C> and I still get stuck
[20:14] <kromar> jrib: i explained it 3 times already, i want to "REMOVE" the diplay drivers so ican acctually see something in ubuntu
[20:14] <shuan> edbian: yes it is
[20:14] <sagredo> dudes
[20:15] <sagredo> I got to get these binaries compiled like pronto
[20:15] <sagredo> what gives
[20:15] <te_> Devon_C: Tell it not to ask you again.
[20:15] <Donedeez> random: can anyone help me with rc.d? and further explain what it is
[20:15] <sagredo> let me link pastebin
[20:15] <Devon_C> te_: won't let me
[20:15] <edbian> shuan: lol.  I don't have any ideas.  Sorry :(
[20:15] <jrib> kromar: removing them would not doing anything.  And this is the first time you have explained it to me.  Just change the driver being used in your xorg.conf
[20:15] <Devon_C> te_: I visit the site regularly too, I dont know why it started doing it now
[20:15] <te_> Donedeez: Startup scripts
[20:15] <davertron> kansan: read this, it'll probably get you going http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=681052
[20:15] <alan_> hello
[20:15] <shuan> edbian: isit possible to make a shortcut to it
[20:15] <alan_> test
[20:16] <Donedeez> te_: i have rc1.d up to 6.d but no actual 'rc.d'. do i need it?
[20:16] <SnakesAndStuff> jrib: : just tried it under a different user, it works.... I guess I probably have something funky in a conf file then?
[20:16] <edbian> shuan: Yeah.  But you can't place (symlinks they're called) in computer
[20:16] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: yeah, good luck!
[20:16] <kromar> jrib: and how would i do that?
[20:16] <jrib> kromar: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:17] <kromar> jrib: and how can i paste something when i cant enter the system??
[20:17] <jrib> !pastebinit | kromar
[20:17] <sagredo> http://pastebin.com/m7a1dc8ef
[20:17] <sagredo> someone's got this
[20:17] <Donedeez> can anyone help me with rc.d?
[20:17] <sagredo> gcc compilation error
[20:17] <sagredo> hook me up
[20:17] <sagredo> http://pastebin.com/m7a1dc8ef
[20:17] <confounds> how do you tell logrotate to never delete any old, rotated log files?
[20:17] <jrib> !compiling > sagredo
[20:18] <te_> Donedeez: No, you only need rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d
[20:18] <te_> etc
[20:18] <te_> Donedeez: What do you need?
[20:18] <te_> Donedeez: What are you trying to do?
[20:18] <Donedeez> socket files
[20:18] <Donedeez> and a script relies on rc.d
[20:18] <Donedeez> i was wondering if i coudl just edit the script to one of hte numbers
[20:19] <te_> Donedeez: Yes you can edit them...
[20:19] <te_> Donedeez: What do you need to do?
[20:19] <Donedeez> k. does it matter which number i use?
[20:19] <Donedeez> i am trying to set up a socket policy file
[20:19] <B0BBY> Hello People.
[20:19] <redsoxking> is it possible to have a ubuntu on a smart phone, I hate WM6.1
[20:19] <te_> Donedeez: It only orders them, (order in which they are run)
[20:19] <kromar> jrib: thats nice and all but i dont have inet connection on that pc...
[20:20] <B0BBY> so a Sheeva Plug has a ubuntu variant or something installed.
[20:20] <B0BBY> would it be ok to ask questions for that in this channel?
[20:20] <jrib> kromar: what version of ubuntu?
[20:20] <Donedeez> k so it doesnt really matter which number i use then i guess.. yea?
[20:20] <MK13> redsoxking, you might try Android...not ubuntu but you might like it better than wm6
[20:20] <kromar> jrib:9.04
[20:20] <jrib> B0BBY: depends on the question, give it a try.  Worst-case scenario, it seems like it's not default ubuntu behavior and we send you away :)
[20:21] <semitemos> could someone assist me in finding out which graphics driver I'm using?
[20:21] <jrib> kromar: you should be fine with just renaming xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup
[20:21] <dusty_> how do i create a partition on a /dev/sda using parted?
[20:21] <jrib> dusty_: use gparted
[20:21] <B0BBY> jrib: ok I'll send my friend with the question in here. :)
[20:21] <dusty_> jrib - it's a server install. i'm SSHing into it
[20:21] <B0BBY> thanks.
[20:22] <edbian> dusty_: Do you know what gparted is / how to get it??
[20:22] <kromar> jrib:wahts the command to rename?
[20:22] <te_> Donedeez: If you'll notice, rc2.d and rc3.d are same, so if you put what you want in rc2.d, that's prbably all you need to do.
[20:22] <semitones> could someone help me with my graphics driver?
[20:22] <barbarella> kromar:mv
[20:22] <jrib> dusty_: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/parted.html I guess then
[20:22] <signpost> tonii: nah, I just have a crapload of disks; it's a server
[20:22] <jrib> kromar: mv old new
[20:22] <kromar> jrib:and where exactly is the xorg.conf located?
[20:23] <dusty_> edbain: yes i know what gparted it. i do not have gnome installed. it is a headless server
[20:23] <jrib> kromar: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:23] <dusty_> jrib: thanks i'll look at that manual
[20:23] <tonii> signpost: ah :P
[20:23] <Mike_lifeguard> So, I'm booting from a new HD -- what do I need to remember to change? UUID in /etc/fstab, grub...?
[20:23] <jrib> dusty_: there might be a parted channel but for something so simple I imagine the manual is probably faster
[20:23] <Ace2017_-> how many years of support does dapper have left?
[20:24] <mdm> dusty_, use fdisk
[20:24] <kromar> jrib: still the same problem....
[20:24] <jrib> Ace2017_-: 2 on the server
[20:24] <jrib> kromar: you rebooted?
[20:24] <tristanmike> If I'm filesharing between Linux and Windows, is it still recommended to use FAT32 for all shared partitions/disks ?? Or what would be suggested ?
[20:24] <semitones> is there an easy way to find out what drivers the computer is using right now?
[20:24] <Ace2017_-> jrib: does 2 on the server mean that the repos for dapper will be up for 2 more years, i need it for a VM
[20:25] <jrib> Ace2017_-: why not use hardy?
[20:25] <te_> semitones: lsmod
[20:25] <dusty_> jrib: right. if i have to i'll boot a live cd. i just want to see if i can avoid connecting a cd rom
[20:25] <semitones> te_, thanks
[20:25] <Mike_lifeguard> tristanmike: isn't ntfs default for windows? linux can read/write to ntfs just fine
[20:25] <Ace2017_-> jrib: i'm running an old program in the VM, its binary only
[20:25] <dusty_> mdm: fdisk can do that?
[20:25] <te_> semitones: NP
[20:25] <kromar> jrib: jup, reboot, still same messed up display
[20:25] <dusty_> mdm: i guess i knew that :s lol
[20:25] <jrib> Ace2017_-: well the repos will always be up you just won't get security updates after support ends
[20:25] <kromar> jrib: gona reinstall everything... this is to stupid
[20:25] <enterneo> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errors there too - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3
[20:26] <Ace2017_-> thats fine
[20:26] <chetnick> Mike_lifeguard: yes it has support to r/w NTFS but it needs to be compiled into kernel.
[20:26] <Ace2017_-> thanks
[20:26] <barbarella> tristanmike:depends if you like to set permissions
[20:26] <Pantcho> Hello, i have an ARM mini laptop with crap wince5.0 on it. i want to install ubuntu 9.04 that it is said supports ARM. but i have a usb only interface on my mini laptop. anyone know a guide to do this installment? thank you.
[20:26] <nascentmind> I am getting the following part black screen --> http://imagebin.ca/view/Fm-2heDG.html
[20:26] <tristanmike> barbarella: how so ?
[20:26] <dexter_> i need help
[20:26] <Mike_lifeguard> enterneo: I don't see any errors
[20:26] <dexter_> i get error 21
[20:26] <kromar> anyone knows where i can get a ATI FireGL 9000 driver?
[20:26] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, yes I do
[20:27] <enterneo_> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errors there too - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3
[20:27] <Mike_lifeguard> enterneo_: please don't repeat yourself
[20:27] <Zopiac> can the mount command mount isos?
[20:27] <barbarella> tristanmike:cause you can't set permissions on a fat32 partition
[20:27] <tristanmike> Mike_lifeguard: yes, NTFS is default of OS install (XP), but I just want to make sure the support for NTFS is "proper" now... I haven't used Windows in years and last time I did, NTFS was not recommended
[20:27] <tristanmike> barbarella: from Linux ? Really ?
[20:27] <jrib> !iso | Zopiac
[20:27] <dexter_> grub error 21 when booting up  on my windows harddive and even if i switch the hardrive boot sequance i get that error only if i unplug the windows harddive and just load the linux one can i boot up into linux but i can't boot up into windows please help
[20:28] <te_> Zopiac: Short answer: Yes
[20:28] <Zopiac> jrib: thanks
[20:28] <jrib> dexter_: are you using UUID in your menu.lst?
[20:28] <dusty_> mdm: thanks for telling me to use fdisk. It worked like a charm, and i didn't have to look anything up :)
[20:28] <dexter_> jrib, i havent
[20:28] <mdm> dusty_, np it is the standard btw.
[20:28] <Mandrake6> join #ubuntu-br
[20:28] <jrib> dexter_: that would fix your problems
[20:28] <dexter_> jrib, i havent messed with that yet i have just installed it on a harddive
[20:28] <dexter_> jrib, how do i fix it?
[20:28] <nascentmind> can somebody help me with the video problem ?
[20:29] <barbarella> tristanmike:security is not an issue?
[20:29] <dusty_> mdm: i'll remember that for next time :) i'm glad i could avoid the whole live cd thing ;)
[20:29] <jrib> dusty_: are you on the working system now?
[20:29] <te_> nascentmind: Ask your question(s)
[20:29] <jrib> dexter_: are you on the working system now?
[20:29] <dexter_> jrib, yes kinda
[20:29] <jrib> dexter_: erm, "kinda"?
[20:29] <shuan> anyone know why my ntfs drive is not showing up in computer or desktop
[20:29] <dexter_> jrib, i am working on one of the harddive
[20:29] <dusty_> jrib: technically. i'm sshing into it. i got it working now
[20:29] <dexter_> jrib, the one with linux
[20:30] <te_> shuan: Not mounted?
[20:30] <dexter_> jrib, but not the one that gets the error
[20:30] <jrib> dexter_: ok.  Pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:30] <robin_> anyone here can help i can't get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:30] <te_> shuan: sudo fdisk -l
[20:30] <jrib> dexter_: wait.  You have more than one linux installed?
[20:30] <tristanmike> barbarella: no, just my personal computer, like I was saying to Mike, I haven't used Windows in years, I (unfortunately) need to now, so I wanted to make sure NTFS support was fine as last time I had Windows and Linux together, NTFS was "use at own risk" kinda thing.
[20:30] <enterneo> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errors there too - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3
[20:30] <barbarella> shuan:try to mount it manualy, man ntfs-3g
[20:30] <nascentmind> I get part of the screen black and the other part normal. why is that? how can if fix it? http://imagebin.ca/view/Fm-2heDG.html
[20:31] <mats> hi
[20:31] <dexter_> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m59a82213
[20:31] <tristanmike> barbarella: the reason I'm even curious is because I'm concerned about the FAT 4 gig file limitation...
[20:31] <SheevaPlug> Trying to get rt2870 drivers compiled, anyone done that?
[20:31] <dusty_> jrib, mdm: all is well now. ran fdisk, created a new partition, and then ran mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 and its workin like a champ now. thank you both :)
[20:32] <mats> lspci | grep ati
[20:32] <barbarella> tristanmike:depends on many things, one i have already said, the other is big files
[20:32] <jrib> dexter_: does linux always work then regardless of how your disks are ordered?
[20:32] <jrib> dusty_: cool
[20:32] <B0BBY> I see you SheevaPlug ....
[20:32] <dusty_> how do i set the "raid" flag now?
[20:32] <dexter_> jrib, no it only works if i unplug the windows harddive when booting up
[20:32] <dexter_> jrib, but i can load it now
[20:32] <jrib> dexter_: what happens exactly when you don't unplug it?
[20:32] <dexter_> jrib, not windows but i can see inside the windows harddive
[20:33] <om26er1> /dev/sda1 /media/ssd ext4 rw,user,reltime,auto 0 2
[20:33] <barbarella> tristanmike:take a look at ntfs-3g
[20:33] <Pantcho> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/release/ - i have ARM processor which image/iso should i download?
[20:33] <om26er1> is there anythin wrong
[20:33] <om26er1> /dev/sda1 /media/ssd ext4 rw,user,reltime,auto 0 2
[20:33] <mats> http://pastebin.com/
[20:33] <om26er1> help me plz
[20:34] <dexter_> jrib, ok so i am booting up and i unplug the windows harddive and then i get the  grub menu which has options to boot up into windows or ubuntu but when i click windows it doesn't work because the harddive isn't pluggged in
[20:34] <te_> jrib: He more than likely installed when the MS Windows driver was unplugged. so...
[20:34] <barbarella> tristanmike:so you can partition your windows drive as a ntfs partition and write to it from linux
[20:34] <om26er1> help me plz
[20:34] <tristanmike> barbarella: right, I understand that, the large files is my concern, so my question is, if I were to share partitions between Windows and Linux, is it safe to use NTFS. The last time I had to use shared partitions, the NTFS write support in Linux was "could corrupt data"
[20:34] <jrib> om26er1: I'm pretty sure the "reltime" option does not exist
[20:34] <tristanmike> barbarella: so it is perfectly safe to write to NTFS from Linux ?
[20:34] <SheevaPlug> Bobby have you gotten the rt2870 working before?
[20:34] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a drive on the console?
[20:34] <mats> thomas what is it
[20:34] <mats> ?
[20:34] <tristanmike> barbarella: well, "safe enough" ;)
[20:35] <thomas__> http://pastebin.com/da92c9d4
[20:35] <barbarella> tristanmike:the ntfs kernel driver, not ntfs-3g
[20:35] <te_> dexter_: Are joking?
[20:35] <mats> thomas_
[20:35] <jrib> dexter_: alright, but what happens when it is plugged in?
[20:35] <diffred> command line to delete all but .txt files?
[20:35] <mats> thomas__
[20:35] <dexter_> te_, what?
[20:35] <diffred> something like rm !*.txt?
[20:35] <jrib> diffred: do you happen to use zsh...?
[20:35] <x_O> Argh
[20:35] <diffred> jrib: nope
[20:35] <x_O> How do you install Firefox 3.5 from source in 8.04?
[20:35] <jrib> diffred: then use find
[20:35] <tristanmike> barbarella: which does Ubuntu use by default ?
[20:35] <jrib> !firefox | x_O
[20:36] <tristanmike> barbarella: if you know
[20:36] <dexter_> jrib, even if its the secondary hardddive i get an error saying grub loading error 21
[20:36] <rojanu> After upgrade to jaunty on boot my system halt at
[20:36] <rojanu> setting advanced power management level to 0xfe (254)
[20:36] <edbian> om26er: You there still??
[20:36] <x_O> jrb would be nice if that halped
[20:36] <x_O> but im on 9.04
[20:36] <x_O> 8.04 *
[20:36] <x_O> Hardy Heron
[20:36] <FloodBot2> x_O: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <jrib> x_O: did you actually read it?
[20:36] <dusty_> figured out how to set raid flag. using gparted type "set 1 raid on"
[20:36] <dexter_> jrib, it might be another number but i think its 21
[20:37] <mdm> tristanmike, it was never a NTFS on linux isssue.  It was a fuse on pre 2.6.9 kernels, just use a newer kernel and it will be fine
[20:37] <jrib> x_O: erm, the page changed since I last looked.  Go through the history, you'll see instructions on installing the tar.gz
[20:37] <x_O> yea... hmm seeing alphas
[20:37] <thomas__> i dont know how to install xserver, my graficchip is nvidia 8400m g, please have a look to http://pastebin.com/da92c9d4
[20:37] <jrib> !away > ToXBoT-AFK
[20:37] <barbarella> tristanmike:and do a mount -t ntfs-3g
[20:38] <tristanmike> mdm: oh, ok, so when I install the current version of Ubuntu, I should be cool as ice ?
[20:38] <SheevaPlug> I'm trying to compile wifi driver for shevaplug and it's failing
[20:38] <x_O> not seeing that
[20:38] <mdm> tristanmike, yes
[20:38] <enterneo_> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errros in between, although the process shows as successful - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3 , but when I reboot I see no list but only the grub prompt
[20:38] <thomas__> can anybody help me?
[20:38] <x_O> google is of no help
[20:38] <jrib> !grub | dexter_
[20:38] <tristanmike> mdm: just wanted to be sure, like I've said, haven't used Windows and Linux for years and last time I did, NTFS wasn't suggested. Thanks
[20:39] <jrib> dexter_: you can probably just reinstall it with supergrub, that will be the easiest thing to try
[20:39] <dexter_> jrib, where do i get supergrub apt install
[20:39] <dexter_> jrib, ???
[20:39] <x_O> Boo.
[20:39] <jrib> x_O: I see a hardy repo for the mozilla ppa.  What's wrong with that?
[20:39] <jrib> dexter_: see ubottu
[20:40] <mdm> tristanmike, I didnt say I suggested it, rather that it wasnt a fault of ntfs-3g.  If you want my suggestion format it to ext3 and forget about windows
[20:40] <B0BBY> SheevaPlug: what is your error ?
[20:40] <dexter_> jrib, ok all read the links you got me thanks
[20:40] <x_O> last time i checked that it was release canditates
[20:40] <thomas__> please, could someone help me?
[20:40] <SheevaPlug> I'm getting a make error 2 when compiling wifi drivers
[20:40] <jrib> x_O: are you sure?  "daily build"
[20:41] <x_O> hmm
[20:41] <x_O> Firefox 3.6?  o_O
[20:41] <tristanmike> mdm, LOL, I unfortunately must use windows for certain apps, believe me, it's not something I want to do, but I won't be spending much time there, I just want to make sure that my my music and movies will be available to me when I'm there
[20:41] <B0BBY> what's your kernel version?
[20:41] <didi> It seems an odd question, but is it possible to run a program by a user which hasn't a shell?
[20:42] <jrib> didi: with su -c I guess?
[20:42] <tristanmike> mdm: which is why the concern for the 4 gig FAT limitation (mostly for the video)
[20:42] <SheevaPlug> Bobby Linux ubuntu 2.6.30-rc6 #2 PREEMPT Wed May 20 05:42:04 MDT 2009 armv5tel GNU/Linux
[20:42] <dexter_> jrib, so i am confuzed what grub menu list should i be modfing
[20:42] <tuxlover> hey guys
[20:42] <mdm> didi, yes, in fact its preferable for many programs to run as a user whos shell is set to /bin/false
[20:42] <x_O> It's still a tar.gz
[20:42] <x_O> doesn't answer my question on how to install it.
[20:42] <jrib> x_O: no.  Read the wiki page that explains how to use ppa's
[20:43] <mats> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5086971&postcount=6
[20:43] <dexter_> jrib, is their one on the windows harddive i shoould know about or do i just modife the one on the linux harddive
[20:43] <mats> @thomas__
[20:43] <tuxlover> i have a question can anybody tell me someting about howto get the webcam sl-6825 to run
[20:43] <didi> jrib: Don't know. I will try it. Just to clarify I want to run a tor process but I want the user which will run it to have less to none privilege.
[20:43] <jrib> dexter_: you should just follow the instructions on the wiki about reinstalling grub
[20:43] <semitones> te_ which of these drivers is the display driver though? I don't see anything like "nv" or "nvidia"
[20:43] <rich_> !list
[20:44] <x_O> I see no such wiki.
[20:44] <mdm> !help | rich_
[20:44] <x_O> I am seeing three package files too. Only one is 42mb ... guessing I don't need the other two.
[20:44] <didi> mdm: Run it like jrib suggested?
[20:44] <B0BBY> guys does ubuntu repo has the kernel sources for  2.6.30-rc6?
[20:45] <jrib> x_O: the first link you clicked on that then linked you to the ppa
[20:45] <mdm> didi, yes or more precisly depends on the program.  Some have command switches to run as a user
[20:45] <jrib> !who | x_O
[20:46] <mats> liero
[20:46] <enterneo_> i manually installed grub from terminal (after grub install failed during jaunty install), it went find - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3 , but on reboot I see no menu list, I am on ubuntu installer right now
[20:46] <keiichi> Hi, I've tried testing Grub2 as per the wiki page, but get a No Such Disk error, anyone able to help as I'd like to test this
[20:46] <mats> http://openlierox.sourceforge.net/
[20:47] <B0BBY> anyone?
[20:47] <didi> mdm: Tor have a config switch that says "drop root privileges and use this user instead". But I am actually not very comfortable believing in that.
[20:47] <B0BBY> looking for kernel sources  2.6.30-rc6.
[20:47] <jrib> !kernel > B0BBY
[20:48] <gourlet> ubuntu fr#
[20:48] <mdm> didi, its not very difficult to implement in a program, it it says it will run as a user, and ps shows it running as that user, well it is doing what it was set to do
[20:48] <gourlet> 3 ubuntu fr
[20:48] <gourlet> # ubuntu-fr
[20:48] <B0BBY> jrib: thanks.
[20:48] <irocksu> hi
[20:49] <OB1FoShoB> hey had anyone got flash working in firefox 3.5, i just have it installed in a folder running manually until repos get updated
[20:49] <gourlet> soory I shear going un Chat ubntu french
[20:49] <irocksu> i just want to make sure is the best current practise for dual boot: first install windows, then linux with grub bootloader?
[20:49] <jrib> irocksu: yep
[20:49] <irocksu> or did something change radically.
[20:49] <irocksu> ok
[20:50] <irocksu> one more thing: should i use 8.04 or 9.04?
[20:50] <B0BBY> jrib: I see. I guess I'm not sure how to retrieve a particular version.
[20:50] <dayo> 8.10
[20:50] <dayo> irocksu: 8.10
[20:50] <B0BBY> jrib: My friend and I are tyring to compile a wifi driver. which need the kernel sources....
[20:50] <irocksu> why?
[20:50] <B0BBY> jrib: header files and such.
[20:50] <didi> mdm: Well. I think that you're right. But don't you fell very uncomfortable running something as root?
[20:50] <jrib> B0BBY: you are using the default linux kernel?
[20:51] <jrib> s/linux/ubuntu
[20:51] <ersin> i dont my mouse in xorg.conf
[20:51] <ersin> i use sabily
[20:51] <dayo> irocksu: i use 8.04 on my servers. the only reason one should have for upgrading, is that it fixes an issue/bug. my reason for upgrading my laptop from 8.04 to 8.10 is that 8.10 gives me far less pulseaudio troubles.
[20:52] <gourlet> je veux aller sur le fprum francais mais je ne sais jamais comment aller sauf en passat par là et sa dérange du monde
[20:52] <mdm> didi, me personally no, but then again the stuff I run as root I know about, can read the source code and understand what it does.  I do with with mythtv so I can set proity threads, then again my myth frontends are more appliances then systems
[20:52] <B0BBY> jrib: it's a Sheeva Plug which report to uname -a with a ubuntu something something 2.6.30-rc6
[20:52] <irocksu> but why not 9.04?
[20:52] <irocksu> the current release
[20:52] <guntbert> gourlet: type "/join #ubuntu-fr" (without the ")
[20:52] <rski> !fr
[20:52] <B0BBY> jrib: it's on the MIPs arch.
[20:52] <jrib> B0BBY: ah...
[20:52] <irocksu> i understand bigger is better, but 8.10?
[20:52] <gourlet> thing you
[20:53] <dabide> hi, i have a ubuntu 7.10 virtual server, and i'm currently trying to set up my very first cronjob, but "crontab -e" or "sudo crontab -e" give me both: "crontab: command not found" - shouldn't crontab be some kind of systemtool, and be always available?
[20:53] <guntbert> gourlet: pas de quois
[20:53] <jrib> B0BBY: use the git instructions and checkout the right version, does that help?
[20:53] <dayo> irocksu: i have no reason to. my pulseaudio misbehaves maybe once a month, now. i'm ok with that.
[20:53] <didi> mdm: Hum. Well, for now I will try the jrib solution until I get around the idea.
[20:53] <didi> jrib: Thank you.
[20:53] <mdm> didi, implitly root is not evil, its just dangerous.  Especially in the hands of a semi-knowledgeable user.  Or quite literally "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing"
[20:53] <irocksu> hmmm... ok
[20:53] <Mike94287> Where are the gedit theme files placed?
[20:53] <B0BBY> jrib: that does help. I just have to now figure out all of that. :)
[20:54] <B0BBY> jrib: so when you say get out my own, you mean from kernel.org sources, right?
[20:54] <jrib> irocksu: if you need LTS use 8.04, otherwise use 9.04
[20:54] <didi> mdm: The all concept of running a process with super privileges just make me fell funny.
[20:54] <irocksu> jrib ok.
[20:54] <jrib> B0BBY: if your kernel is a vanilla kernel without the ubuntu patches, yeah
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: otherwise, it could be trouble...?
[20:55] <dayo> dabide: type    which crontab     what's the output?
[20:55] <jrib> B0BBY: I don't know
[20:55] <irocksu> thanks guys.
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: hehe, it's always a lot of fun compile random drivers, eh?
[20:55] <mdm> didi, I dont think it was jribs idea as much as he gave you the command to run a program as a different user.  I would call it jrib was correct.
[20:55] <rambo3> !best
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: that's for your help.
[20:55] <jrib> !wifi > B0BBY
[20:55] <jrib> B0BBY: that may have some hints about your card too
[20:55] <tumii> I need help installing these things: OpenGL, ALSA, GTK, GTKGLEXT, libxml2
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: cool. thanks for your help.
[20:55] <jrib> tumii: why?
[20:56] <tumii> jrib: how do I install them?
[20:56] <mdm> didi, some things HAVE to run as root, thigns that access hardware directly (xorg being most notable).  But not all things need root.
[20:56] <jrib> !software > tumii
[20:56] <ersin> i have no mouse in xorg.conf but my mouse is working, can anyone help me out? i want to configure more buttons
[20:56] <dabide> dayo: "which crontab" does not produce any output
[20:56] <jrib> tumii: that's how to install them
[20:56] <didi> mdm: I think I didn't quite understand what you meant about jrib "idea".
[20:56] <gourlet> sorry for my English
[20:56] <dayo> dabide: odd. looks like it's not installed.
[20:56] <KiRLi> hi, how can i format ufs my /media/disk1 on ubuntu?
[20:56] <dabide> dayo: can i get it via apt-get?
[20:57] <mdm> didi, ok, but pay attention to what jrib tells you, he is knowledgeable
[20:57] <irocksu> KiRLi: sudo cfdisk
[20:57]  * jrib claims no such thing
[20:57] <irocksu>  and the device
[20:57] <dayo> dabide: yes u can
[20:57] <didi> mdm: I know, I know. (although there are many people that do not like the idea of xorg been run as a privileged process)
[20:57] <gourlet> What is your Linux distribtion?
[20:57] <dayo> dabide: sudo aptitude install crontab
[20:57] <irocksu> sudo cfdisk /dev/sda2 or something... you need to figure out what hd it acutally is
[20:58] <irocksu> dont format the wrong one ;)
[20:58]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[20:58] <guntbert> gourlet: you english is better than my french :), this is the support channel for ubuntu
[20:58] <jrib> !away > D3f0
[20:58] <mdm> didi, like I said, root isnt dangerous any more then a rifle is.  It is how it is used (I would say misused) that is.
[20:58] <KiRLi> irocksu, fatal error
[20:58] <irocksu> KiRLi: why do you want to format your disk?
[20:58] <KiRLi> scond hdd, backup
[20:59] <irocksu> what device is your hd?
[20:59] <epzt> my raid is broken and can't start in degrade mode
[20:59] <gourlet> guntbert: sorry I don't enderstant and Yes this chat is for Ubuntu
[20:59] <KiRLi> scond=second
[20:59] <didi> mdm: I personally would say that a rifle is *always* dangerous. But let not visit that place.
[20:59] <semitones> hey everyone -- how do I find out which graphics driver I'm using? There seems to be a problem
[20:59] <irocksu> then try /dev/sda1
[20:59] <irocksu> wait... not sure
[20:59] <dabide> dayo: thx, got it working - bye!
[20:59] <justinA> can someone please send me the hardy default source.list file
[20:59] <keiichi> anyone able to help with chainloading grub2?
[20:59] <wildc4rd> whats my best bet software wise for tracking resource use of PC's remotely?
[21:00] <irocksu> could you check /etc/fstab?
[21:00] <KiRLi> try, mount umount device ?
[21:00] <justinA> or a link with the exact list of default sources
[21:00] <funkja> Will my Ubuntu automatically update my firefox to 3.5 now that it's released or will I have to do it myself?
[21:00] <irocksu> unmount it
[21:00] <guntbert> gourlet: ubuntu support here, ubuntu chat -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <jrib> !ff35 | funkja
[21:00] <epzt> how can I repair my raid from intramfs console ?
[21:01] <ace> Does anyone know a good software for converting video?
[21:01] <justinA> can someone send me the hardy default source.list file
[21:01] <funkja> jrib: That's not quite up to date.
[21:01] <irocksu> KiRLi what does fstab tell you
[21:02] <justinA> or a link to the list of sources
[21:02] <jrib> funkja: why do you say that?
[21:02] <KaiZ> hi, does anyone know how to update firefox 3.0 to 3.5 on ubuntu 9.04?
[21:02] <jrib> !ff35 | KaiZ
[21:03] <funkja> jrib: nvm. I understand - the beta is referring to ubuntu specific packages - not ff itself.
[21:03] <jrib> funkja: right
[21:03] <funkja> thanks.
[21:03] <KiRLi> irocksu, I tried but did linux file system, i want to ufs file systems
[21:03] <abbazabba> i have a silly question.. i'm on 8.04, and usually i am able to enable my videocard hardware driver, which then breaks my system bringing me back to a menu that lets me select nv and my monitor.. which lets me raise the resolution. now, i don't have anything in my hardware driver section, and when i check out xorg.conf it has what i want in it.. i'm still stuck at 800x600 though.. any ideas? i'm thinking maybe erase xorg.conf
[21:03] <barbarella> ace:mencoder
[21:03] <ace> barbarella: Thank you!
[21:04] <irocksu> KiRLi: you want what?
[21:04] <derek6711> the update informantion is outdates. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Can some one help me
[21:04] <SerenityKill3r> anybody know a good OGG Vorbis DAP?
[21:04] <SerenityKill3r> cheap preferably
[21:05] <irocksu> ufs never heard of it.
[21:05] <te_> abbazabba: Yes. If you're using opensource driver, you can rm xorg.conf
[21:05] <kenichi_> why, when i start screen on jaunty, does it resize my terminal to 80 cols?
[21:05] <threethirty> In my conky config im catting a text file (its a todo list) but i cant get it to show more than 10 lines, here is my current config http://linuxcranks.pastebin.com/m2bd1910f anyone have any ideas?
[21:06] <abbazabba> te_: i am not sure if i'm using an opensource driver, i am using "nv".. and i don't want to remove it, i just want to bring it back to zero so i could set my own options (which are the options it already has in it..)
[21:06] <irocksu> you need to format your drive and then create a new file syste with mkfs
[21:06] <te_> abbazabba: nv is the opensource driver
[21:06] <ace> barbarella: How do you use Mencoder?
[21:06] <tw3akUrb0x> hello
[21:06] <derek6711> hi
[21:07] <abbazabba> te_: so just delete it?
[21:07] <te_> abbazabba: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:07] <te_> abbazabba: Or mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf~
[21:07] <bo7amny> how can i open a program or a folder from the terminal and set the size and the position of the window ?
[21:08] <uncola> Help.. anyone know a guide that tells you how to update to the newest nvidia driver?
[21:08] <epzt> someone to help repairing a broken raid
[21:08] <te_> bo7amny: Can you restate your question?
[21:08] <Titan8990_> !nvidia | uncola
[21:08] <derek6711> te_, you could use sudo mv because it could require admin permissions
[21:08] <derek6711> te_, by the way, im back =)
[21:09] <abbazabba> te_: wish me luck
[21:09] <theholyduck> hmm, just having fglrx installed (without even using it) is making my system lock up
[21:09] <ace> Anyone know of an EASY video converter
[21:09] <te_> derek6711: derek6711 Yes, you are correct.
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> ace:  winff, avidumex
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> !find avid
[21:09] <theholyduck> ace, easy is just another way of saying its rubbish and the audio will be out of sync
[21:09] <epzt> ace: ffmpeg
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> i never can spell avidmux right
[21:09] <derek6711> te_, could very well be correct
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> winff is very handy.
[21:10] <edbian> Dr_Willis: avidemux* he he
[21:10] <ace> Dr_Willis: Thank you
[21:10] <derek6711> te_, not situated with ubuntu yet but google does wonders =)
[21:10] <threethirty> ace: media convert  is  a gui  for ffmpeg
[21:10] <te_> derek6711: Oh yes, google is your friend.
[21:10] <bo7amny> ex : firefox -size 800 600 -pos 100 100
[21:10] <threethirty> In my conky config im catting a text file (its a todo list) but i cant get it to show more than 10 lines, here is my current config http://linuxcranks.pastebin.com/m2bd1910f anyone have any ideas?
[21:10] <te_> derek6711: BTW, there's also google.com/linux
[21:11] <derek6711> te_, especially since there are so many people that helped develop ubuntu and linux it is like free help desk
[21:11] <te_> derek6711: Yep...
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> threethirty:  check the conky homepage/configs - they got examples of doing that stuff..  you may need to set the  min/max sizes of the 'conky' window manually
[21:11] <tw3akUrb0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208475/ I'm building a customized kernel , everything is working however I have a few questions........... in my default boot there is no comments in "dmesg" about MTRR or PAT are these parts of the kernel needed? or can they be safely removed from my next build?
[21:11] <derek6711> te_. i didnt know that
[21:11] <edbian> derek6711: Not to mention the best help desk around! :)
[21:11] <didi> jrib: If I switch the shell from /bin/bash to /bin/false I cannot execute the su -c command. Another idea?
[21:11] <bo7amny> te_, ex : firefox -size 800 600 -pos 100 100
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> threethirty:  my conky configs --> http://drop.io/dr_willis
[21:11] <threethirty> Dr_Willis: ty
[21:11] <derek6711> edbian. dont think too high of yourself
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> threethirty:  i do a similer thing with log files.
[21:11] <edbian> derek6711: ha ha ha
[21:12] <n3vermind> join #polska
[21:12] <edbian> derek6711: I was talking about everybody else!
[21:12] <edbian> lol
[21:12] <derek6711> edbian, here is a nice test of your abundance of knowledge
[21:12] <NoiseEee> any reason that apache wouldn't prompt me for a login/pass once i've added .htaccess and .htpasswd to the relevant places?   anything i need to adjust on the default ubuntu server installation?
[21:12] <te_> bo7amny: What was your original question?
[21:12] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  My pulseaudio is sending a lot of data over the network.  How do I see which streams make up that traffic?
[21:12] <edbian> NoiseEee: Did you restart apache?  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart  ??
[21:12] <uncola> that guide you linked me to is what caused me problems in the first place :(
[21:12] <derek6711> edbian, i have a repository that the update manager uses and it wasnt updated with the downloads
[21:12] <derek6711> edbian, now my updater is yelling at me
[21:12] <te_> NoiseEee: did you restart the server?
[21:13] <edbian> derek6711: Wasn't updated with the downloads?  What do you mean?
[21:13] <derek6711> te_, so it is just http://www.google.com/linux ?
[21:13] <te_> derek6711: Yes.
[21:13] <derek6711> edbian, it didnt update for some reason
[21:13] <comicinker>  jonaskoelker: watch -n 1 "netstat -tupen"
[21:14] <edbian> derek6711: sudo apt-get update ??
[21:14] <NoiseEee> te_, edbian:  yep restarted apache
[21:14] <myk_robinson> have any of you installed Firefox 3.5 yet, and if so, are your links in the "Awesome Bar" blue all of a sudden??
[21:14] <jonaskoelker> comicinker: and look for what?
[21:14] <derek6711> edbian, the update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Can some one help me
[21:14] <clusty> hey
[21:14] <derek6711> edbian, first message i posted
[21:14] <jonaskoelker> comicinker: the only program names I see are chromium-brow (there's a missing "ser") and ssh, none of which (apparently) play sound
[21:14] <edbian> derek6711: Perhaps the repo is down?  or (more possibly) "no longer available"
[21:15] <derek6711> te_, thanks
[21:15] <te_> derek6711: NP
[21:15] <derek6711> edbian, but my computer updated, it just didnt update the system information
[21:15] <edbian> derek6711: That is very strange.  Did you have more than 1 package manager running ??
[21:15] <clusty> i am having a rather strange problem with my ubuntu: I changed some bios settings (like enabling AHCI) and now grub is not working no more: error 22
[21:16] <te_> clusty: Must have re-oreder the drives.
[21:16] <L3dPlatedLinux> I went ahead and made another user account for my wife and out it in the admin group so i thought and all but she doesnt have wifi access and she cant edit the user and groups accounts either how would i fix this
[21:16] <derek6711> edbian, i may have had the update manager and spm
[21:16] <threethirty> Dr_Willis: my old conky config fit the whole screen and i just removed some of the sections, shouldnt the window size still be the same (and how are you starting multiple conkies?)
[21:16] <clusty> i boot the live cd mount the partition do a chroot, find /boot/grub/stage1 but it cannot find anything
[21:16] <derek6711> edbian, does it matter?
[21:17] <clusty> te_: but should my stuff not be there?
[21:17] <clusty> te_: stuff=stage1
[21:17] <comicinker> jonaskoelker: just a start. maybe you can identify the connected IP addresses and the average amount of tcp packats related to it... it was a shot into the dark...
[21:17] <edbian> derek6711: You're not supposed to be able to do anything in any of them if more than one is open.  That way it can keep track.  (How would it keep track if multiple apps were changing things all at once).
[21:17] <edbian> derek6711: Usually it yells at you if you try.
[21:17] <te_> clusty: probably still there just not designated as was before.
[21:18] <derek6711> edbian, i think i just had it open while i was updating
[21:18] <clusty> te_: so whats the fix? (possibly without a full ubuntu reinstall)
[21:18] <NoiseEee> is there a specific module i should be enabling for Apache to respect .htaccess restrictions in Ubuntu server?
[21:18] <edbian> derek6711: When you say it's "yelling at you" what is it saying??
[21:18] <te_> clusty: Boot a liveCD and do fdisk -l  and see what is different.
[21:18] <derek6711> edbian, here are the problems
[21:18] <derek6711> edbian, GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4874D3686E80C6B7Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/deb-src/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[21:18] <derek6711> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[21:18] <derek6711> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/jaunty/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[21:18] <derek6711> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:18] <FloodBot2> derek6711: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <clusty> te_: will reinstall the whole bloody sys. will be faster. hope I won'y have to be back :D
[21:19] <derek6711> edbian, so it seems to be the links or something
[21:20] <edbian> derek6711: "failed to fetch" means that it cannot get in contact with the server.  Remove them from your sources temporarily and try to update
[21:20] <edbian> derek6711: update = "reload" and the GUI's call it.
[21:20] <derek6711> edbian, i can still update it just when i check for updates
[21:21] <NoiseEee> wtf
[21:21] <edbian> derek6711: Yeah.  I think those repos are down.  Try removing them from your software sources and see if the problem persists.
[21:21] <derek6711> edbian, how will i go about this
[21:21] <te_> clusty:  why not just go into the bios and change it back the way it was?
[21:22] <bucky> NoiseEee: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialApacheAddingLoginSiteProtection.html
[21:22] <edbian> derek6711: System -> Admin -> software sources
[21:22] <clusty> te_: did not do the trick :D
[21:22] <te_> clusty: Oh
[21:22] <edbian> derek6711: Go to the third party tab and uncheck them.
[21:23] <mickster04> anyione not being served?
[21:23] <mickster04> :p
[21:23] <te_> clusty: if you can get the drives back in the order they were, it will boot again
[21:24] <derek6711> edbian, it is updating
[21:25] <pronoy_> i seem to be suddenly having trouble with my flash plugin ...how to fix this...
[21:25] <wolter> hi
[21:25] <derek6711> hi
[21:25] <wolter> why is my update manager crashing my sound??
[21:25] <mickster04> hi
[21:25] <derek6711> it could be updating your sound
[21:25] <mickster04> wolter what are you doing other than updating?
[21:25] <edbian> derek6711: Hows it going?
[21:26] <edbian> derek6711: Errors?
[21:26] <pronoy_> i seem to be suddenly having trouble with my flash plugin ...how to fix this...
[21:26] <derek6711> edbian, it opened the update manager and is updating
[21:26] <wolter> mickster04, was listening to music with banshee
[21:26] <bucky> pronoy enable all your repos and install adobe-flashplugin
[21:26] <edbian> derek6711: No errors?
[21:26] <mickster04> wolter, it may have also been updating banshee?
[21:26] <gnubie> edbian;  ty
[21:26] <pronoy_> bucky its to its newest version..
[21:26] <mickster04> wolter, or does it happen everytime
[21:26] <wolter> nah..
[21:26] <wolter> everytime
[21:26] <derek6711> edbian, i think it was just 1 sourve
[21:26] <wolter> I made myself a script to fix sound
[21:27] <derek6711> edbian, source*
[21:27] <wolter> and when I run it update manager crashes
[21:27] <wolter> so its one or the other
[21:27] <mickster04> wolter so how does it break
[21:27] <bucky> pronoy what kind of video chip/card do you have
[21:27] <wolter> mickster04, the update manager?
[21:27] <mickster04> wolter, oh so you've fixed it
[21:27] <clusty> te_: reinstalling. luckily i have the home on a diff partition so i can just format / and put new one
[21:27] <wolter> mickster04, no
[21:27] <mickster04> wolter, no the sound, does the device dissappear?
[21:27] <wolter> mickster04, fixing it would be making it not happen again
[21:27] <edbian> derek6711: Those repos aren't necessarily down.  Perhaps it was just a typo.  Why did you add them??
[21:28] <mickster04> wolter, but to have a script fix it, you should know what the problem is?
[21:28] <bucky> banshee sucks
[21:28] <pronoy_> bucky vga is 8600gt other than that sound is onboard and the trouble i am having has come up after certain kernel updates ...
[21:28] <wolter> mickster04, when i run the sound tests on the sound control panel it tells me that the device is currently in use by some other application
[21:28] <wolter> mickster04, yes, kindof...
[21:28] <wolter> mickster04, now that the update manager finished sound works again
[21:28] <derek6711> edbian, i didnt add any
[21:28] <derek6711> edbian, it was only one
[21:29] <mickster04> wolter, then i guess it does do sumat to the sound?
[21:29] <jg_> hi
[21:29] <derek6711> edbian, it was the same thing but 3 errors
[21:29] <jg_> i need help
[21:29] <TheNewGuy> howdy, are there games in the repository?
[21:29] <jg_> I Need HELp!
[21:29] <edbian> derek6711: What repo had errors?
[21:29] <tmavy> hi everyone
[21:29] <pronoy_> TheNewGuy yeah tons
[21:29] <jacatone> Does anyone know how to add themes to Xubuntu 9.04?
[21:29] <te_> wolter: is firefox running?
[21:29] <mickster04> !ask | jg_
[21:29] <derek6711> TheNewGuy, there is in spm
[21:29] <wolter> te_, now it is, but firefox remains neutral to the problem
[21:29] <jg_> my youtube dosent work
[21:29] <TheNewGuy> are they listed in the synaptic manager?
[21:29] <derek6711> edbian, http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/binary-i386/Packages
[21:29] <rickest> jg_: "doesn't work" is as useful as "I need help"
[21:30] <derek6711> TheNewGuy, yep
[21:30] <pronoy> !flash | jg_
[21:30] <mickster04> jg_ have you installed flash non-free
[21:30] <wolter> mickster04, what is sumat?
[21:30] <jg_> it just shows a black page
[21:30] <mickster04> wolter, sorry sumat = something in my accent
[21:30] <edbian> derek6711: You didn't add that?
[21:30] <clusty> jg_: you need FLASH
[21:30] <TheNewGuy> cool.  I assume that if we get something in the repository we can assume it is clean and does not have viruses?
[21:30] <mickster04> wolter apologies
[21:30] <te_> wolter: lsof
[21:30] <pronoy> jg_: dude check the link you got from the bot
[21:30] <jg_> ok
[21:30] <derek6711> edbian, nope
[21:30] <jg_> tell me how
[21:30] <derek6711> edbian, i dont know how to add em
[21:30] <pronoy> bucky...any ideas or should i repost
[21:30] <wolter> well the problem is fixed now
[21:30] <jg_> is ubottu a robot
[21:30] <edbian> strange
[21:30] <te_> wolter: lsof | grep dsp
[21:30] <clusty> jg_: sudo apt-get install flash-non-free
[21:31] <wolter> it aparently happens when update manager starts installing applications
[21:31] <edbian> derek6711: It was under 3rd party apps?
[21:31] <clusty> jg_: inside a terminal
[21:31] <derek6711> edbian, could have been put in with an app
[21:31] <jg_> ok
[21:31] <pronoy> jg_: just a bot...a robot is hardware linked
[21:31] <derek6711> edbian, ya
[21:31] <jg_> il try now
[21:31] <wolter> gconf-hel  7056           wolter  mem       REG                8,6    81496 1118724 /usr/lib/libspeexdsp.so.1.5.0
[21:31] <wolter> te_,
[21:31] <jg_> whats the password
[21:31] <wolter> te_, (sound works again and firefox is no longer open)
[21:31] <edbian> ummm
[21:31] <derek6711> clusty, thank you
[21:31] <edbian> odd
[21:31] <derek6711> clusty, i needed that command
[21:31] <pronoy> yo ! anyone having trouble lately with the flash plugin ? seems to be in all browsers
[21:31] <TheNewGuy> sorry, was that a dumb question?
[21:32] <clusty> derek6711: what for? :D
[21:32] <te_> wolter: That's interesting.
[21:32] <clusty> ohh ok :D
[21:32] <mickster04> jg_ password
[21:32] <pronoy> TheNewGuy the games one ? nope
[21:32] <jg_> ok
[21:32] <mickster04> pronoy i have youtube sorta working in ff on eeebuntu
[21:32] <derek6711> clusty, my flash sucks and wont work right
[21:32] <clusty> derek6711: hope is correct the package name that is
[21:32] <mickster04> jg_ sorry, what password*
[21:32] <wolter> te_, yeah
[21:32] <jg_> tehers writetn this
[21:32] <jg_> hello
[21:32] <jg_>  sudo apt-get install flash-non-free
[21:32] <clusty> jg_: man, you set up that password?
[21:32] <TheNewGuy> No, about can I assume that the files in the repository are clean and have not viruses or trojens?
[21:32] <jg_> ups
[21:32] <derek6711> clusty, it is different from mine
[21:32] <FloodBot2> jg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <pronoy> mickster04 my flash video displays a huge play button in a circle and unless clicked it doesn't load automatically
[21:32] <jg_> jg@jg-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install flash-non-free
[21:32] <jg_> [sudo] password for jg:
[21:32] <jg_> Sorry, try again.
[21:32] <jg_> [sudo] password for jg:
[21:32] <jg_> Reading package lists... Done
[21:33] <wolter> te_, i am 100% sure that the problem is caused when update manager locks the system to install the downloaded updates
[21:33] <pronoy> !pastebin | jg_
[21:33] <clusty> ...and there goes the young padwan :D
[21:33] <mickster04> pronoy, thats supposed to e like that, you have to click to start the video?
[21:33] <jg_> Hello
[21:33] <jg_> help me plz
[21:33] <mickster04> jg_ e patient
[21:34] <mickster04> jg_ be patient*
[21:34] <clusty> fingers crossed... doing the reboot
[21:34] <pronoy> mickster04: yeah before kernel 2.7.27-14 update everything was cool and it used to load automatically and it sure isn't supposed to act like that
[21:34] <pronoy> jg_ dude what's the problem ?
[21:34] <mickster04> pronoy ah ok
[21:34] <jg_> my youtube dosent work
[21:34] <mickster04> pronoy well i always had to start it myself
[21:34] <pronoy> jg_: did you do what was asked to you in the terminal ?
[21:34] <ramfist> I am having trouble getting my install of ubuntu to work, booting from cd or hard drive keeps getting me to BusyBox 1.10.2 what should i be doing differntly during install/ startup?
[21:34] <jg_> pronoy
[21:35] <jg_> can we pm
[21:35] <mickster04> pronoy he did
[21:35] <pronoy> jg_ cool
[21:35] <TheNewGuy> JG, unload flash and then reload the adobi flash.  not the three one.  and no, I don't know how to do it well enough to tell you.
[21:35] <jg_> can we private message
[21:35] <mickster04> !pm
[21:35] <TwoToneSpirit> ramfist:  live cd?  USB stick?
[21:35] <mickster04> just as a hint
[21:35] <ramfist> live cd
[21:36] <TheNewGuy> anyone have a suggestion for a good car game?  rally?
[21:36] <comicinker> TheNewGuy: you decide if you trust a software repository. technically, a repository can blow your system, install viruses and rootkits. so watch out which repositories you add to your system
[21:36] <TheNewGuy> OH!
[21:36] <TheNewGuy> Really!  It thought it was monitored by someone.. or a group.
[21:37] <ramfist> I dung thru the formus at their  support site, thre seems to be similar  problems with 8  but i am running 9.04
[21:37] <ramfist> oh wow, my spelling is terrible
[21:37] <pronoy> mickster04 he's on pm wimme...doesn't have his repo enabled anyways...so what bout the flash thing  ? any ideas
[21:37] <TheNewGuy> Chit man... I need too re think this.
[21:37] <mickster04> pronoy, ermmm...i had just installed the normal nonfree flash an it worked with eeebuntu
[21:37] <comicinker> TheNewGuy: well, the default repositories are  trustfull
[21:38] <pronoy> TheNewGuy dude google for top 25 linux games you'll get one
[21:38] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: Well, there's only so much certainty with any repository / group. even the original authors of software could do something bad, and I'm not sure everything would be caught.
[21:38] <TheNewGuy> thats the 4 basic ones.  the one that come active in umbuto 9.04.  right?
[21:38] <pronoy> mickster04 ah eeebuntu don't know bout that...running intrepid here DAMN KERNEL UPDATE !!
[21:38] <mickster04> pronoy ah, what u using (pcwise)
[21:39] <TheNewGuy> OK, good to know.  I am new to linux... but after a week, I love it.
[21:39] <bluef00t> could anyone point me to how to write a shell script that automatically feeds in the password for a command that asks for one.
[21:39] <mickster04> pronoy although desktop edition of 9.04 worked seamlessly on my pc so it mght have somat to do with hardware too
[21:39] <edbian> TheNewGuy: It's gets better and better
[21:39] <pronoy> mickster04 well on a 2.7 C2D 2 gig ram and 8600gt and onboard sound "and i didn't have problems before the kernel fix"
[21:39] <mickster04> bluef00t, that would nullify all security on ur oc/laptop
[21:40] <TheNewGuy> Yea, I can see that in a few years it could go main stream.
[21:40] <mickster04> pronoy ah, no eeebuntu would be pointless for you
[21:40] <Cynner> Download new music, films, games and lot of more, check it - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844
[21:40] <pronoy> Pici you around ?
[21:40] <bluef00t> mickster04, yes, kind of, but i am annoyed by entering the same command and then root password again and again. Any way around?
[21:40] <mickster04> pronoy i would suggest updating to the new ubuntu as it worked from scratch on my botch-job pc
[21:41] <comicinker> TheNewGuy: that's what they said 10 years ago ;)
[21:41] <edbian> bluef00t: In the GUI you can have it save the password for the session
[21:41] <pronoy> mickster04 well too many bugs on jaunty i am waiting for karmic ..
[21:41] <Radtoo> bluef00t: one simple trick to keep a root shell open is to run screen first.
[21:41] <x4mer> hi, all
[21:41] <mickster04> bluef00t, if your using terminal it should keep the sudo for about 15mins no?
[21:41] <cicada> Hi
[21:41] <pronoy> TheNewGuy: mainstream ?
[21:41] <red-lichtie> One thing that gets on my nerves regarding Ubuntu is that after a kernel update  I am forced to 1) reinstall NVIDIA driver (NVIDIA-blabla.run), reinstall omnibook module & download/recompile the kernel just to get my MemoryStick support to work again. Any ideas on how to get this to happen automatically when there is a kernel update ?
[21:41] <mickster04> pronoy, bugs? i havent had one yet?
[21:41] <pisecx> !ff3.5
[21:41] <pisecx> =(
[21:41] <pronoy> mickster04 were you around when it launched ?
[21:42] <mickster04> pronoy ah no
[21:42] <te_> red-lichtie: Get everything from the package-manager.
[21:42] <root> hello everyone
[21:42] <pronoy> pisecx what is this deal with ff3.5 anyways ? why the hype ?
[21:42] <mickster04> ]hi root
[21:42] <TheNewGuy> LOL.... yea.. things more slowly.   the push has been to get the major features working, the detailed ease of use and integration really take a lot of programing to get very very smooth... so smooth that grandma can use it.  That is going to take some time.
[21:42] <mickster04> pronoy on windoze it is blitz fast in comparison
[21:42] <red-lichtie> te_ if I only knew the locations to add I would
[21:42] <te_> red-lichtie: and / or use  open source
[21:42] <pronoy> mickster04 you should have seen the shit we were sailing in ...every new dude came in and yelped for help
[21:42] <pronoy> mickster04 watch this
[21:42] <mickster04> pronoy lol
[21:42] <bluef00t> yes...but i want to automate the whole thing..cause my internet goes down again and again and i need to do sudo pon provider after 20 mins. I just want to automate this.
[21:42] <Radtoo> red-lichtie: yes, thats the pain with external modules. allmost everyone has to. but the memorystick I can't understand, it should be supported by the kernel itself, no?
[21:43] <cicada> I'm having trouble running the demo for X2 on Jaunty that I downloaded here: http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/info.php?id=23&
[21:43] <x4mer> i have a question and i haven't found the answer on google: are iso images from ubuntu testing page updated dayly or only on milestones such as alpha2/3/beta/rc ?
[21:43] <pronoy> HEY GUYS WINDOWS SUCKS RIGHT ? people who agree say aye !
[21:43] <cicada> aye
[21:43] <mickster04> aye
[21:43] <te_> !nvidia | red-lichtie
[21:43] <red-lichtie> te_: omnibook IS opensource + MemoryStick is simply no compiled as a module in the Ubuntu releases :/
[21:43] <TheNewGuy> wow, I just read what I wrote... Honest, I am not drunk.
[21:43] <bluef00t> aye
[21:43] <bluef00t> mickster04, yes...but i want to automate the whole thing..cause my internet goes down again and again and i need to do sudo pon provider after 20 mins. I just want to automate this.
[21:43] <TheNewGuy> eye.... I poked my eye using windows.
[21:43] <Radtoo> x4mer: snapshots. the thing thats updated more frequently is the repository of installable packages.
[21:44] <pronoy> mickster04 see and if an op were around you'd find a !ot with my name on it
[21:44] <mickster04> i was about to:P
[21:44] <coleys> Radtoo: Ahoy =D ///
[21:44] <pronoy> mickster04 huh :D
[21:44] <cicada> Anyone have an issue trying to run demo games from Linux Publishing?
[21:44] <mickster04> pronoy, i was gona ot! you till i realised you were right
[21:44] <pronoy> mickster04 anyways im still stuck with this flash thingy
[21:45] <pronoy> mickster04 haaww ! betrayel
[21:45] <te_> TheNewGuy: I might agree with you if what you are saying that being restricted to MS would be similar to getting poked in they eye with a sharp stick. :)
[21:45] <threethirty>    /wc
[21:45] <TheNewGuy> is there a good "visual C" enviroment free ware?  I want to try to learn how to program c.  I used to do basic years ago.
[21:45] <ali1234> why does my display keep doing this? : http://imagebin.org/54330 - using nvidia driver and compiz. it started happening after todays updates
[21:46] <jg> HI again
[21:46] <jg> need help from the guy pm'ing me before
[21:46] <pronoy> TheNewGuy try ur hand on the command line...it is beautiful :) you'll be asking for a lot of command line stuff after you know how powerful it really is
[21:46] <ali1234> it happens about every 10 minutes, and switching to console and back makes it go away... for another 10 minutes
[21:46] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: theres a lot of IDE for C
[21:46] <mickster04> pronoy,, i had some input about ubuntu restricted extra's
[21:46] <dock> code::blocks is nice
[21:46] <jg> plz help man
[21:46] <mickster04> thenewguy try c++ with codeblocks
[21:46] <cicada> Anyone know of a channel where people are doing more than bs?
[21:47] <jg> i need help plz anyone
[21:47]  * red-lichtie completes complete kernel download/recompile just for memstick (+ pro) modules, not exactly a wonderful user experience
[21:47] <coleys> !question | jg
[21:47] <TheNewGuy> pronoy, is there a primer or something to give me the basics.  I really am the new guy.
[21:47] <jg> coleys
[21:47] <jg> can u pm me
[21:47] <dock> anyway i have a wierd problem
[21:47] <TheNewGuy> rad
[21:47] <danbhfive> Is anyone able to use the "Pictures folder" screensaver without problem, ie, with it working and without a memory leak (on 9.04)?
[21:47] <mickster04> cicada pardon?
[21:47] <TheNewGuy> Radtoo, what is IDE?
[21:47] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: you can use specialized editors like code::blocks, multipurpose ide like anjuta / kdevelop / eclipse / netbeans, or even text editors like vim or emacs (they can do a lot for you)
[21:47] <pronoy> yo ! i thought you went away
[21:47] <bucky> cicada: #debian
[21:47] <coleys> jg: Just ask your question =)
[21:47] <jg> ok
[21:47] <pronoy> yo ! i thought you went away jg
[21:47] <coleys> jg: someone else might be having the same problem.
[21:47] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: integrated development environment
[21:47] <red-lichtie> Add to that the fact that my BT won't work without the omnibook module, makes every kernel update nightmare
[21:47] <TimX4209> hello
[21:48] <jg> its ok
[21:48] <dock> my tab key is broken so i xmodmaped it to capslock, sure i can tab again but i cant alt tab which is rather crucial for me
[21:48] <jg> im pming with pronoy
[21:48] <pronoy> yey ! i am famous !!
[21:48] <TimX4209> can we asked questions about tiny core linux here
[21:48] <cicada> No one is helping me.. And it appears that this is more or less a hangout.  I'm looking for people that actually want to help out.  Is there a channel for that?  I'm having problems trying to run a demo on Jaunty.
[21:48] <coleys> jg: pronoy Should allow other people to see your solution, if they have the same problem =P.
[21:48] <TheNewGuy> I check it out.
[21:48] <rohtie> hey everyone! Does anyone know how i can configure my trust tablet?
[21:48] <pedestrianentra1> id like to grab all link titles of my website and put them in a file.... Ive looked at man wget and can't figure out how. Any ideas?
[21:48] <guntbert> !patience | cicada
[21:49] <mickster04> cicada, if you hadn't noticed theres lots of people helping other people out, be patient, mayb i can help
[21:49] <pronoy> coleys how many have the problem of not knowing how to enable the repos...
[21:49] <bucky> TimX4209: isn't anyone in #tinycorelinux ?
[21:49] <dock> pede: check out download them all plugin for firefox
[21:49] <coleys> pronoy: Many... ?
[21:49] <cicada> sorry..
[21:49] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: Meaning code editor, compiler, debugger, documentation, ... yadda yadda all combined in or controlled by one program.
[21:49] <Adola> I just did an update, and when I restated, ALSA isn't installed, or so it seems.
[21:49] <TimX4209> they dont talk their
[21:49] <pronoy> coleys cool bring it here
[21:49] <Adola> "Alsamixer" doesn't work in terminal.
[21:49] <Adola> And my sound isn't working.
[21:49] <edbian> cicada: How is it not working?  What have you tried to do?
[21:49] <mickster04> cicada, whats the matter  then?
[21:49] <mickster04> LD
[21:49] <coleys> Adola: alsamixer (withoutcaps)
[21:50] <Adola> coleys: Yeah, I did.
[21:50] <mickster04> adola you havent muted it have you:P
[21:50] <TimX4209> bucky no one talks in tinycorelinux chat
[21:50] <TheNewGuy> Last question.  I have compez (compiz.. whatever) and I can flip my chart upside down, but is there a way to then mirror it? or flip it right to left (or left to right)  ?
[21:50] <pronoy> is there a guide as to how to enable the repos for noobs ?
[21:50] <Adola> mickster04: No, and not only that, I had to reinstall an ethernet driver too.
[21:50] <mickster04> TimX4209, what is the problem
[21:50] <cicada> I get this warning error when running the X2 game demo from Linux Publishing..I'll post it in a sec..
[21:50] <pronoy> or is ubottu loaded with one ?
[21:50] <TheNewGuy> When I say chart, I mean screen.
[21:50] <uofm49426>  (ntfs-config:7198): WARNING **: /media/windows contains an invalid caracter.
[21:50] <uofm49426> you must choose a name, not a directory.
[21:50] <a1fa> hello.. i dont have access to ubuntu forums.. can anyone download http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=94477&d=1227872015 and pastebin it for me, please?
[21:50] <mickster04> adola what did you do?
[21:50] <TimX4209> i want to changes the windows manager to icewm
[21:50] <uofm49426> help
[21:50] <rohtie> Anyone know how i configure my trust tablet?
[21:50] <TimX4209> and i want to put some programs on a usb
[21:50] <edbian> TheNewGuy: ctrl + alt + button one to hold the "screen"
[21:50] <TheNewGuy> I am using this is a charting program.
[21:50] <guntbert> !repos | pronoy
[21:50] <coleys> Adola: sudo apt-get install alsa-libs
[21:50] <TimX4209> and connect to my ahteros wifi 5007
[21:50] <Adola> mickster04: I just did an update
[21:51] <dock> wow the flood in here
[21:51] <pronoy> guntbert: thanks a lot mate....
[21:51] <TheNewGuy> what do you mean hold the screen?
[21:51] <pronoy> !repos | jg
[21:51] <edbian> TheNewGuy: Also you have a 2 sided plane because you only have 2 desktops.  If you add 2 more (4 total) You'll have a square
[21:51] <guntbert> pronoy: :)
[21:51] <cicada> Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:51] <enterneo_> I had no menu.lst in my /boot/grub , so I am writing one manually for my new jaunty install, Grub complains '
[21:51] <pronoy> edbian you mean a cube
[21:51] <edbian> TheNewGuy: Just try it: ctrl + alt + left click
[21:51] <Adola> coleys: E: Couldn't find package alsa-libs