[02:13]  * Gary pm's wuola (spam from #ubuntu)
[03:46] <ardchoille> Looks like a few ip's to banin #ubuntu
[03:47] <ardchoille> Someone has figured out how to circumvent the floodbots
[05:04] <Gryllida> Where's the BestBot at #ubuntu-bots ? Doesn't seem to be there.
[05:39]  * mneptok contemplates forwarding nhandler to ##do-staffers-really-need-fix-your-connection
[05:39] <mneptok> >:)
[05:43] <nhandler> mneptok: Hopefully it is fixed now
[06:10] <mneptok> nhandler: need some Dramamine? that looked bumpy.
[06:34] <Myrtti> MK-BB: hi
[07:07] <ardchoille> I see some suspicious activity in #ubuntu. Several different nicks have joined all with the same name and ip:
[07:07] <ardchoille><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:07] <ardchoille> Kinda looks like someone is getting ready to spam frommultiple nicks so as to thwart the floodbots
[07:08] <ardchoille> !ops
[07:08] <ardchoille> Sorry, but I may be correct in stopping a spam attack on #ubuntu
[07:09] <ardchoille> Thank you Amaranth
[07:09] <ardchoille> I bet they all leave now
[07:10] <Amaranth> They're getting _way_ too smart
[07:10] <ardchoille> yep
[07:10] <ardchoille> I'll keep an eye out tho
[07:10] <Amaranth> thanks for the heads up
[07:10] <ardchoille> yw :) Gotta help protect my favorite channel
[07:11] <Amaranth> @login
[07:12] <ardchoille> Amaranth: Perhaps the floodbots can be programmed to detect such name@nick type exploits in the future?
[07:13] <Amaranth> afaik the old ircd would automatically kline such people
[07:13] <ardchoille> ok, was just a thought for a possible feature for the floodbots. Would help the situation I think
[07:13] <Amaranth> yeah, i'll talk to some people about it
[07:14] <ardchoille> thanks
[07:15] <tsimpson> seems to be a collage IP
[07:16] <tsimpson> KLES College of Engg and Technology
[07:18] <mneptok> K-Line Entire System
[07:20] <Myrtti> klescet then
[07:22] <Myrtti> for all we know the kids decided together lets put acronnym of our school in the ident field so we'd know each other.has anyone of these actually done something?
[07:43] <Amaranth> Myrtti: nope, I guess not
[07:43] <Amaranth> If you want to remove the ban go ahead, I'm off to bed so won't be able to monitor the channel
[07:56] <Myrtti> oo, how original
[08:02] <mneptok> ?
[08:02] <Myrtti> AlienDK gave me the assorted cusswords in PM
[08:29] <elky> Myrtti, excellent, you were running low on your supply of those.
[09:00] <mneptok> Myrtti: i can lend you "assbonnet" for a few days, but with a company meeting this week, i'll need it back by Tuesday.
[09:22] <Myrtti> !away > Kamokow`afk
[09:54] <mneptok> 02:52 -!- kumar-klescet<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[09:55] <ikonia> ?
[09:56] <mneptok> ikonia: secind part of the nick was used as ident by a group of spammers earlier
[09:56] <mneptok> *second
[09:57] <ikonia> oh
[09:58] <persia> Did they actually spam, or were they just suspicious?
[10:00] <Myrtti> just suspicious
[12:40] <jussi01> o/
[13:01] <jrib> hi
[16:11] <Laney> sorry for the flood of ubottu changes!
[16:11]  * Laney swiftly runs
[16:29] <nhandler> @login
[17:13] <jussi01> !search freeze
[17:14] <jussi01> !ffe
[17:21] <nhandler> jussi01: I updated it
[18:56] <ikonia> spelling_is_notimportant
[18:56] <ikonia> it's the spell bot guy again
[18:56] <ikonia> 18:56 -!- spelling_is_not_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:56] <ikonia> just trolledd #mysql after getting kicked under a different name
[18:56] <ikonia> just like he did in #ubuntu before claiming it was "bob"
[19:00] <Mamarok> oh, that gryzilla again? He even spammed the sounder mailing list with a testing request, stating he couldn't test since he was using Windows...
[19:00] <ikonia> same guy
[19:00] <ikonia> joined #mysql as parakesh
[19:00] <ikonia> spelt like an idiot / talked stupid
[19:01] <ikonia> was kicked, rejoined 15 seconds later as spelling_is_not and started shouting at people about spelling
[19:01] <ikonia> exactly the same as he did in #ubuntu when he was wre - removed and came back as spellingbot
[19:01] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[19:01] <ikonia> same ip and client
[19:02] <ikonia> so I don't think it was "bob" this time ;)
[19:03] <ikonia> I'm off for a bit - keep an eye out for him
[19:04] <Mamarok> I'm not in the #u channels
[19:04] <Mamarok> but will be watching the #k ones :)
[19:04] <ikonia> I'm sure he'll be back to an *buntu channel
[19:08] <mneptok> :(
[19:08] <mneptok> he didn't troll #maria
[19:08] <mneptok> our project is doomed.
[19:14] <LJJ> Hi.
[19:15] <ikonia> hello
[19:15] <LJJ> Recommend for filesystem encryption?
[19:15] <LJJ> Oops
[19:15] <ikonia> errr try joining #ubuntu
[19:15] <LJJ> wrong channel
[19:15] <mneptok> LJJ: wrong channel. you want #ubuntu down the hall.
[19:16] <mneptok> (you're already there)
[19:16] <LJJ> I came in here to ask if I can get the src for the floodbots
[19:17] <Myrtti> nope, you can't. they are closedsource atm
[19:17] <LJJ> Why?
[19:17]  * LJJ is confused
[19:18] <mneptok> the person that wrote them has chosen not to release the source.
[19:18] <Myrtti> iirc for security reasons
[19:19] <LJJ> mneptok, Who wrote it?
[19:19] <LJJ> Or is that top-secret.
[19:20] <Myrtti> your almost nicksake LjL annd couple others.
[19:20] <Myrtti> mainly LjL
[19:20] <LJJ> Myrtti, What's it written in?
[19:20] <LJJ> Im just curious
[19:20] <LJJ> Because it seems pretty smart
[19:20] <mneptok> a text editor, i think.
[19:21] <mneptok> *bah dum tish*
[19:21] <Myrtti> php
[19:21] <LJJ> mneptok, LOL.
[19:21] <LJJ> haha that one made me laugh.
[19:23]  * mneptok bows
[19:24] <LJJ> I don't get though the purpose of multiple bots, that op themselves.
[19:24] <LJJ> top-secret?
[19:24] <mneptok> redundancy
[19:24] <Myrtti> netsplit  dtection
[19:25] <mneptok> and you can't call something a "Flood" with one raindrop.
[19:29] <LJJ> I didn't know Dominian was an opper here :P
[19:30] <Myrtti> technically he's  here as an observer of freenode staff
[19:30] <LJJ> Oh, so is he a council member?
[19:31] <Myrtti> nope
[19:32] <LJJ> Interesting. Do you guys do anything with the #ubuntu channel on OFTC?
[19:32] <Myrtti> not officially
[19:33] <Myrtti> i've never been to the network at all
[19:34] <LJJ> Well it's nice because they don't get all the spam that is here in this network.
[19:41] <mneptok> they would if that was the official channel.
[19:41] <LJJ>  No, I mean the whole network.
[20:15] <ikonia> it's got about 5 people in the channel - it's rubbish
[20:15] <ikonia> the topic even says "go to freenode for the official channel"
[20:28] <ikonia> FreeNodeStaffer: please stop
[20:28] <ikonia> !staff | FreeNodeStaffer pretending to be freenode staff, demanding channels shutdown, threatening to kline people
[20:29] <ikonia> marienz: hello there - check out FreeNodeStaffer
[20:29] <ikonia> just had to ban him from ubuntu for pretending to be staff , demanding the channel is closed down
[20:29] <ikonia> and threatening to kline users
[20:30] <marienz> yep, that's what drew me here. Can I idle here?
[20:30] <ikonia> sure
[20:30] <ikonia> FreeNodeStaffer: this is non-idle channel, so unless you have something to discuss with us - please leave
[20:31] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu slackguru: stinking attitude
[20:39] <Myrtti> eerrrr... roight
[20:39] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[20:39] <ikonia> busted
[20:40] <ikonia> ok - now freenodeisgay is spamming links in mutliple channels
[20:45] <marienz> he's about as subtle as a boot to the head, but obviously poke us if we manage to miss him anyway :)
[20:47] <ikonia> no sweat
[20:47] <ikonia> slackguru's attitude is just simple rude now
[20:51] <Myrtti> you got cut off
[20:51] <Myrtti> kernel, bu
[20:54] <ikonia> he's a "bright" guy, he can work it out
[21:30] <MenZa> ubottu: tell Dougdoug4 about guidelines
[21:30] <MenZa> ubottu: tell Dougdoug4 about coc


[10:02] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[10:04] <rmg51> Morning
[10:06] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[10:06] <JonathanD> How goes?
[10:10] <rmg51> goes good so far
[10:11] <rmg51> getting ready to go food shopping
[11:08] <InHisName> morning everyone
[11:08] <InHisName> woke up and read the LOOONG backlog since 7:30pm last night.  Now breakfast time.
[11:28] <waltman> I got home last night to discover than linux had apparently crashed, though I could still hear the fan going. Couldn't find anything in the logs after rebooting.
[11:28] <waltman> Also I'd accidently broken logging in qmail, so I had to do a restore from my backups to fix that.
[11:28] <waltman> Good times.
[11:29] <InHisName> nice to hear of your good times.  So much simpler lifestyle than 7 days prior to Thesis completion.
[11:30] <JonathanD> waltman: did you go to the DDG thing?
[11:30] <waltman> Yes. I discovered this after I got home from that.
[11:32] <JonathanD> Did you lost anything?
[11:32] <InHisName> what is DDG thing ?
[11:33] <waltman> Not that I can tell. It was mostly trying to figure out why qmail wasn't logging.
[11:33] <waltman> http://act.yapc.eu/ddg2012/
[11:34] <JonathanD> Nothing fun on woot.
[11:34] <waltman> one of these days I'm going to get a roku
[11:35] <JonathanD> waltman: went to andys yesterday.
[11:35] <JonathanD> bacon egg and cheese on kaiser.
[11:35] <JonathanD> and free cookies!
[11:36] <waltman> yay!
[11:38] <waltman> This random crash has me a little worried.
[11:38] <waltman> I'm going to blame the hp printer driver I tried to install the other day.
[11:54] <JonathanD> printer?
[11:59] <waltman> Cups seems very unstable. I had my printer working a few weeks ago, but after a cups update it was failing again.
[12:00] <waltman> I tried installing the latest hplip drivers, which didn't play well with some other things in my ~/install directory.
[12:01] <waltman> and not to mention didn't get my printer working, either.
[12:02] <waltman> hplip is a self-extracting installer, and it doesn't have the courtesy to self-extract in into a new subdirectory.
[12:02] <waltman> The first thing it does is change permissions on */*
[12:04] <JonathanD> printers shoulnd't be able to crash machines :(
[12:04] <JonathanD> waltman: I got my fancy new DL360 yesterday.
[12:04] <waltman> yay
[12:04] <JonathanD> For vmware.
[12:04] <JonathanD> now I need memory.
[12:05] <waltman> JonathanD: I agree. I just kind of want it to be that instead of something else failing on the box.
[12:05] <JonathanD> Yeah.
[12:05] <waltman> The lack of anything in the logs is worrying.
[12:08] <waltman> Speaking of possible causes of crashes, there's a leap second tonight!
[13:54] <InHisName> leap second!   my watch STILL wont be right, its will still be 5:59 too fast.
[20:42] <waltman> http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-today # I wonder if this explains my crash last night...


[11:05] <ev> mpt: http://people.canonical.com/~evand/screenshots/ubiquity/12.04/
[11:06] <mpt> woohoo
[15:42] <ogra_> cjwatson, so we still havent properly solved the flash-kernel issue with live-installer (running update-initramfs from console-setup) ... i initially did the diversion from the flash-kernel-installer udeb but that didnt end up in the live-installer.d hooks properly ... on a second look infinity found that setup_dev is actually commented in the code of live-installer (no /dev/mmcblk0 is what makes f-k fail actually) ...
[15:42] <ogra_> cjwatson, do you see a reason to not enable setup_dev (which would also make the extra bindmounting of /dev for grub unneeded)
[15:44]  * ogra_ cant really find a reason in the changelog why it was disabled in the first place
[15:49] <cjwatson> Did you do exactly what I said to do in the last conversation we had, or something slightly different?
[15:49] <cjwatson> (Do you have a date?  I need to refer to it, but don't have convenient IRC logs at the moment.)
[15:50] <cjwatson> I'm not keen on messing about with bind-mount handling without great care and unless there's no alternative.  That kind of thing is always problematic.
[15:50] <ogra_> seemingly something slightly different, you suggested a diversion of update-initramfs ... which i did from flash-kernel-installer (which didnt work since the udeb is only installed later) it would have to go into live installer
[15:51] <cjwatson> That doesn't make sense.
[15:51] <infinity> Sure it does.
[15:51] <cjwatson> udebs are nearly all installed well before base system installation, and I'm not aware of any special arrangements to anna-install f-k-i later.
[15:52] <infinity> flash-kernel is in the squashfs, it has a hook in update-initramfs.d, so anything that triggers update-initramfs breaks.
[15:52] <cjwatson> I understand that, but that's not what I'm disagreeing with.
[15:52] <infinity> Bootloader-installer packages are on-demand, no?
[15:52] <cjwatson> The postinst is run on demand, and apt-installs the deb (not the udeb).
[15:52] <ogra_> i created post-base-installer.d/10flash-kernel-installer in the f-k-i udeb
[15:52] <ogra_> but that didnt end up in the filesystem at live-installer runtime
[15:53] <cjwatson> Can I see the diff for this?
[15:53] <cjwatson> It doesn't seem to be in the archive.
[15:54] <cjwatson> Ah, here we go.
[15:54] <ogra_> flash-kernel-3.0~rc.4ubuntu8
[15:55] <cjwatson> As I thought.  You installed the p-b-i script to the wrong path.
[15:55] <cjwatson> Download https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flash-kernel/3.0~rc.4ubuntu11/+build/3678592/+files/flash-kernel-installer_3.0%7Erc.4ubuntu11_armhf.udeb and run 'dpkg -c'
[15:55] <cjwatson> -rwxr-xr-x root/root       205 2012-07-24 14:27 ./usr/lib/post-base-installer.d/post-base-installer.d/01flash-kernel-diversion
[15:55] <ogra_> eek
[15:55] <ogra_> oh my, silly me
[15:55] <cjwatson> The .install file should've been "post-base-installer.d    usr/lib", not "post-base-installer.d    usr/lib/post-base-installer.d"
[15:56] <ogra_> but i'm 100% sure there was nothing else than 25live-installer-console-setup in my filesystem
[15:56] <ogra_> i should have seen that subdir in this case
[15:56] <cjwatson> Can I see a log of a current installation?
[15:57]  * ogra_ hasnt done one in a week, and we work around the issue with a hack that makes f-k exit 0
[15:57] <cjwatson> It doesn't matter whether it's been worked around.
[15:57] <cjwatson> I'm looking for something else.  Actually any d-i syslog from the last few months would be fine for what I'm looking for.
[15:58] <cjwatson> Well, on the right arch/subarch obviously.
[15:58]  * ogra_ can surely find an unrelated bug with a syslog, one sec
[16:00] <ogra_> hmpf, i only have ubiquity syslogs in the bugs i find
[16:02] <ogra_> gimme 30min and i'll produce a fresh one
[16:14] <ogra_> hmm, or not ... seems i cant proceed beyond locale selection ... serial console stays quiet
[16:15] <ogra_> (weird since our test installs worked in bostaon last week)
[16:19] <ogra_> ah, crap seems i did hit bug 1028905 once again
[16:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1028905 in cdrom-detect "cdrom-detect in quantal omap4 hangs trying to look for install media on an extended partition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028905
[16:19] <ogra_> moving on now with a freshly wiped disk
[17:01] <ogra_> cjwatson, phew, took a bit longer ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134597/
[17:02] <cjwatson> OK, that shows what I thought.  flash-kernel-installer is retrieved and unpacked at the 'load-cdrom' stage, well before live-installer runs.  You can see that by searching for flash-kernel-installer - it's the first hit.
[17:03] <cjwatson> So I think you should just try restoring your previous code but fixing the hook location.
[17:03] <cjwatson> And if that doesn't work we should debug from there.
[17:04] <ogra_> ok
[17:07] <infinity> ogra_: And back out the other hack while you're in there, then.
[17:07] <ogra_> +++
[17:07] <ogra_> and +
[17:08]  * infinity really runs off now.
[21:35] <xnox> cjwatson: am I ok to merge and commit these two branches:
[21:35] <xnox> https://code.launchpad.net/~dmitrij.ledkov/ubiquity/crypto-done/+merge/117664
[21:35] <xnox> https://code.launchpad.net/~dmitrij.ledkov/partman-crypto/finish.d/+merge/117657
[21:36] <xnox> cause now lvm bugs are filed, but there are bugfixes in the crypto-done branch....
[21:36] <xnox> e.g. bug 1033985
[21:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1033985 in ubiquity "unable to install quantal on system running precise with LVMs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033985