[11:50] <Jucato> (well, c++ isn't really just a *nix language....but...)
[11:51] <binks_> Jucato: im an open book what do you suggest
[11:51] <Ace2016> qt4 for gui apps, since they'll run on windows too
[11:51] <binks_> all i want is to be able to create gui ,s  for cmd line apps
[11:51] <Jucato> binks_: oh C++ is fine. I'm just clarifiying that it's not really a language just for *nix :)
[11:52] <Jucato> binks_: some links that might help (maybe) http://del.icio.us/jucato/"C++"
[11:52] <binks_> Jucato: yes i no but its better than vb
[11:53] <binks_> Ace2016: is there a good begginer tut for qt4 yet as i never programmed in qt b4
[11:53] <Jucato> binks_: as for the GUI part, there is no exact 1:1 counterpart of VB for C++. I mean that you will have to learn another library on top of C++ to be able to make GUI's
[11:53] <Jucato> so you will have to learn C++ then the GUI toolkit library of your choice
[11:53] <binks_> i was considering PyQt4 but cant find a starter tutorial that  is from the ground up
[11:54] <Jucato> well, PyQt is the Python bindings (wrapper) for Qt
[11:54] <Jucato> so you'll have to learn Python
[11:54] <binks_> how long does the average person take to learn c++
[11:54] <JohnFlux_> PyQt is fairly nice place to start
[11:54] <JohnFlux_> binks_: how long does it take to learn math? :)
[11:54] <Jucato> binks_: http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#How-long
[11:54] <binks_> i read that python is easier to learn coz its readable
[11:54] <JohnFlux_> binks_: depends how good you want to be really
[11:55] <kraut> moin
[11:55] <Ace2016> short answer is you never stop learning, sure you can learn the syntax but you'll always find cool ways to use it
[11:56] <binks_> oooh choices so many roads which to take sigh
[11:56] <^RiaN^> hii alll
[11:57] <binks_> Jucato: nice link cheers for that
[11:57] <binks_> Jucato: nice links cheers for that
[11:57] <binks_> lol
[11:57] <Jucato> :)
[11:58] <Jucato> my road has been a bit easier to choose :)
[11:58] <Jucato> C++ -> Qt -> KDE :D
[11:58] <binks_> ideal would be c++ but the learning curve scares me abit im 36 now so not a spring chicken
[11:59] <^RiaN^> someone one which the best beetween crossover pro and crossover server
[12:00] <Jucato> binks_: the only learning curve you get from C++ if you've never programmed (properly) before would be the learning curve that comes from learning programming concepts. of course there's the object-oriented programming learning curve too
[12:01] <blackflag> !zeroconf
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zeroconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <binks_> ive used vb.net so oops is fine i get that bit its me ok ok c++ i wanted to for 2 years now so last q. best book and best link to use
[12:06] <Jucato> the book I'm reading now is Deitel's C++ How to Program (make sure it's the 5th edition). it's quite good
[12:06] <selolie> Hi!
[12:06] <troy> selolie hi
[12:06] <Jucato> binks_: oh btw, just one big recommendation. if you're going to look for books or resources, make sure they're compliant with ANSI/ISO Standard C++. books published on or after 1998 usually are
[12:07] <selolie> i have a question about amarok
[12:08] <selolie> where there is writing "title" " "artist" ... waht is "score" ?
[12:09] <troy> score  - your mark for song
[12:09] <JohnFlux_> selolie: how often you listen to it etc
[12:10] <selolie> :) thank u
[12:10] <kristjan_> how can I stop knotify from starting automatically even though system sounds are disabled and arts shut down
[12:10] <binks_> Jucato: thanks alot im off out just now so ill catch ya later if i get stuck am i alright to ask help here or should i keep it to c++ channels
[12:11] <Jucato> binks_: yep. there's a ##c++ channel. might want to drop by there and see the topic for helpful links
[12:13] <tahsin> hello
[12:13] <tahsin> why do i get this error C compiler cannot create executable ?
[12:13] <Karti> Hi all. Wonder if there are some wireless experts that have a few moments to help?
[12:14] <tahsin> ?
[12:14] <Karti> I have a clean install with a Belkin F5D7050 v4000
[12:14] <Jucato> tahsin: install "build-essential"
[12:14] <ardchoille> tahsin: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:14] <Karti> It appears to working  but no internet or network access
[12:15] <tahsin> i did that
[12:15] <tahsin> its already there
[12:15] <Karti> all help is appreciated ;)
[12:15] <tahsin> Jucato: i did that
[12:16] <tahsin> ardchoille: this package is already installed
[12:16] <aro> hello, where does 'apt-get source kopete -d' output the sources??
[12:16] <aro> they are not at /usr/src
[12:16] <ardchoille> tahsin: Ok
[12:16] <tahsin> ardchoille: what so i do now ?
[12:17] <tahsin> ardchoille: im trying to install baghira
[12:17] <ardchoille> tahsin: I suggested that because it solved my problem, which was the same thing you had.
[12:17] <ardchoille> tahsin: baghira is in the repos
[12:17] <tahsin> ardchoille: is there a easy way to install baghira ?
[12:17] <ardchoille> tahsin: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira . always check the repos before compiling
[12:17] <Jucato> aro: -d is redundant. it downloads in the current directory
[12:18] <tahsin> ok let me try it
[12:18] <ardchoille> tahsin: apt-cache search appname  <--to search the repos
[12:18] <aro> Jucato: Ou, wow, I see
[12:18] <aro> the directory ist knetwork
[12:19] <aro> thx
[12:19] <tahsin> ardchoille: let me try
[12:19] <ardchoille> !info kwin-baghira
[12:19] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (feisty), package size 750 kB, installed size 2132 kB
[12:20] <tahsin> ardchoille: i found apt-cacher
[12:20] <ardchoille> tahsin: apt-cache search
[12:20] <ardchoille> tahsin: apt-cache search whatever-you-are-searching-for-here
[12:21] <tahsin> ardchoille: i didnt get u
[12:21] <tahsin> ardchoille: i found apt-cacher in adept
[12:21] <ardchoille> tahsin: Open a terminal and type:  apt-cache search baghira
[12:21] <tahsin> ok
[12:21] <^RiaN^> ardchoille: what player can play .mov format
[12:22] <tahsin> ardchoille: it says  KDE theme for Apple junkies :)
[12:22] <ardchoille> ^RiaN^: I don't kow, I don't mess with video/music stuff
[12:22] <tahsin> ardchoille: now what do i do ?
[12:22] <^RiaN^> :)
[12:22] <ardchoille> tahsin: That's the one, now type: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[12:23] <ardchoille> tahsin: See the beginning of the "apple junkies.." line?
[12:23] <ardchoille> kwin-baghira - KDE theme for Apple junkies :)
[12:23] <aro> another question
[12:23] <aro> i like to patch kopete
[12:23] <ardchoille> That tells you that the package name is kwin-baghira, so that is what you install
[12:23] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[12:23] <tahsin> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:23] <tahsin> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:23] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~$
[12:23] <aro> with that emoticon manager
[12:23] <tahsin> ardchoille: i got that error
[12:23] <ardchoille> tahsin: Close adept
[12:23] <tahsin> ok
[12:23] <aro> patch -p1 < /path/to/kopete.patch doesnt work
[12:23] <Karti> any wireless experts?
[12:24] <tahsin> ardchoille: thanks its installing i guess
[12:24] <ardchoille> tahsin: adpet, synaptic, apt-get all use APT as the backend, no two apps can use it at one time
[12:24] <tahsin> ardchoille: thanks for the info
[12:24] <tahsin> ardchoille: im a newbie
[12:24] <elkhanos> Karti not promising anything but probably better that you just ask the question
[12:25] <ardchoille> tahsin: When it's installed, you can tweak baghira settings in kcontrol in the Appearance & Themes section
[12:25] <ardchoille> tahsin: Everyone was a newbie once.. except for maybe Linus :)
[12:25] <tahsin> ardchoille: ya its done let me try
[12:25] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:25] <Karti> I have a clean install with a Belkin F5D7050 v4000
[12:25] <Karti> It appears to working  but no internet or network access
[12:26] <elkhanos> how does it 'appear' to work?
[12:26] <Karti> iwconfig gives me link quality 98/100 and signal level 30/100 so it must see it
[12:26] <ubuntu> i've got a question, i'm installing kubuntu as dual boot (windows), what's the difference between choosing /media/sda1 or /windows as mounting point for my windows partition?
[12:27] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Personal preference
[12:27] <elkhanos> what happens when you do sudo ifup wlan0
[12:27] <ubuntu> does it change anything to acces the partition later on ?
[12:27] <tahsin> ardchoille: now what do i do ? im in kcontrol but cant find baghira
[12:28] <Karti> I did a clean install and it opicked it up as eth0 and I have not changed that
[12:28] <ardchoille> tahsin: Click Appearance & Themes in the left list
[12:28] <ubuntu> like if i choose /media i know i can acces it through the system menu
[12:28] <tahsin> ardchoille: yup then
[12:28] <ardchoille> tahsin: Then go into the Style section
[12:28] <ardchoille> tahsin: I believe it'll be in the list under "Widget Style"
[12:28] <tahsin> ardchoille: yupo then
[12:28] <elkhanos> ok so try ifuping eth0 instead?
[12:29] <elkhanos> personally I just use knetworkmanager
[12:29] <ardchoille> tahsin: Be prepared to do a lot of tweaking, there are lots of settings for baghira
[12:29] <tahsin> ardchoille: yeah found it
[12:29] <tahsin> ardchoille: i will be back
[12:29] <Karti> elkhanos: I tried that and it says ethernet already up
[12:29] <ardchoille> tahsin: Don't forget the "Configure" button on the right
[12:29] <elkhanos> it has it's flaws for sure but works mostly
[12:30] <Karti> elkhanos: sorry it actually says interface eth0 already configured
[12:30] <Jahmon> ardchoille: does it change anything to acces the partition later on ? like if i choose /media i know i can acces it quickly through the system menu
[12:31] <elkhanos> Karti maybe just try cycling it with ifdown and then ifup it again?
[12:31] <Karti> to add I can't ping any of my internal ip addresses
[12:31] <Karti> will try now
[12:31] <elkhanos> karti is your AP encrypted?
[12:31] <ardchoille> Jahmon: It should always be where it is mounted, if you mount it at the same place everytime, you can just as well bookmark the mopuntpoint
[12:32] <Jahmon> okay thanks ;-)
[12:32] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[12:32] <bat17> I have Suse10 and WinowsXP already installed using the Grub loader, will Kubuntu pick up these two Ok when it installs and give me a choice of all 3?
[12:32] <ardchoille> bat17: It did for me.
[12:33] <bat17> thanks, I like KDE but dont like the Menu/Yast in Suze so still playing :)
[12:33] <tahsin_> .im back
[12:34] <tahsin_> ardchoille: now what do i do ?
[12:34] <tahsin_> ardchoille: i want to make it OS X look alike
[12:34] <ardchoille> tahsin_: Tweak baghira to look the way you want :)
[12:34] <ardchoille> tahsin_: Now comew the time to play in the settings.. which is the fun part :)
[12:34] <elkhanos> tahsin http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[12:34] <Karti> elkhanos: tried the up and down and although it works still no difference. It is encrypted and I entered the password and the SSID
[12:35] <adaptr> tahsin_ score an aqua theme from somewhere
[12:35] <ardchoille> elkhanos: Wow, thanks for that link.
[12:35] <ardchoille> tahsin_: Just so you know, http://www.kde-look.org  is a very nice themes site.
[12:35] <elkhanos> always a pleasure never a chore ;-)
[12:36] <elkhanos> Karti are you using wep or wpa?
[12:36] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[12:36] <elkhanos> karti also when you do ifconfig can you see that the correct interface has been assigned an ip number or not?
[12:37] <tahsin_> ardchoille: how do i get the menu bar
[12:37] <Contrast> Would anyone have an idea as to why I can't get to the Monitor & Display section when running KControl as root?
[12:38] <Karti> elkhanos: I have just checked on this one it looks like my BT hub is .254 rather than .1 for the gateway - brb just changing the details
[12:38] <ardchoille> tahsin_: In kcontrol, go to the Dekstop -> Behaviour section and look under "Menu bar at top of screen".
[12:39] <ardchoille> tahsin_:
[12:39] <ardchoille> tahsin_: There are two different styles
[12:39] <tahsin__> ardchoille: sorry got disconnected
[12:39] <tahsin__> ardchoille: yeah so ..
[12:40] <ardchoille> In kcontrol, go to the Dekstop -> Behaviour section and look under "Menu bar at top of screen"
[12:41] <tahsin__> ardchoille: yeah found mac os style
[12:41] <tahsin__> ardchoille: do i select that ?
[12:41] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Have you read the tutorial elkhanos pasted?
[12:42] <elkhanos> lol
[12:42] <tahsin__> ardchoille: nope where do i get it ?
[12:42] <ardchoille> tahsin__: You should read it, it will likely help you much more than I can
[12:42] <ardchoille> tahsin__: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[12:42] <ardchoille> I haven't used baghira in ages
[12:42] <tahsin__> ardchoille: okay thanks a lot if i have any problem then ill come back to you
[12:42] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Wow, that tutorial is quite nice too
[12:42] <elkhanos> me either much prefer Domino with Beryl
[12:43] <tahsin__> ardchoille: yeah but is it for newbies ?
[12:43] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Seems to be easy to follow
[12:43] <elkhanos> tahsin once you've been though it you'll be less of a newbie ;-)
[12:43] <ardchoille> I may install baghira again
[12:43] <ardchoille> elkhanos: lol
[12:44] <tahsin__> elkhanos: yeah ur right lol
[12:44] <tahsin__> ardchoille: im trying that
[12:44] <elkhanos> tahsin seriously though I used it whe I first got in to using linux and it was very useful for learning my way around things and getting the hang of following tutorials, which there can be a lot of in linux
[12:45] <tahsin__> elkhanos: yeah i guess ur rught
[12:46] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Don't worry about step 1, since you already have baghira
[12:46] <tahsin__> ardchoille: which one is the baghira conguration dialog?
[12:46] <elkhanos> Karti how you getting on?
[12:46] <tahsin__> ardchoille: im in step 2
[12:46] <ardchoille> tahsin__: in kcontrol, click the "Configure" button next to the "Widget" section
[12:47] <Karti> elkhanos: Sorry for the delay its on a different machine and I am using a kvm
[12:47] <tahsin__> ardchoille: thn
[12:47] <tahsin__> thnx
[12:48] <elkhanos> tahsin the bit that took me longest was the icons so here's a tip straight off the bat do sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[12:48] <ardchoille> tahsin__: I believe you can also type: bab   in a terminal and get a systray icon for tweaking
[12:48] <Karti> elkhanos: Looks like it is sorted. I gave it a static ip address and set the gateway and dns to my BT Hub and i can ping yahoo and internally
[12:48] <elkhanos> Karti no probs just my crossed fingers are getting stiff :-)
[12:48] <ardchoille> elkhanos: IMHO, that should come with the base install
[12:48] <tahsin__> ardchoille: let me try
[12:48] <Karti> I also tried it with dhcp but it gave me really funny ip address returns so static it is
[12:48] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Ah, yeah, that's in step 3
[12:49] <elkhanos> ardchoille I agree
[12:49] <Karti> elkhanos: lol
[12:49] <tahsin__> failed to open device
[12:49] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Do you have wacom devices?
[12:49] <elkhanos> Karti so you are up and running?
[12:49] <ardchoille> !search wacom
[12:50] <ubotu> Found:
[12:50] <Karti> all set up and complete
[12:50] <ardchoille> Stupid bot
[12:50] <elkhanos> sweeet!
[12:50] <Karti> just need to complete the install with those dodgy codecs and the like. Many thanks for your help and those pointers
[12:51] <tahsin__> ardchoille: nope dnt knw what ur talking about :s
[12:51] <Karti> set up Konversation on the new one and I can drop this windows ;)
[12:51] <Karti> brb
[12:52] <ardchoille> tahsin__: You should follow that tutorial rather than ask me because I haven't used baghira in ages and the tutorial author knows what he's doing.
[12:52] <davide> salve,qualcuno mi puo' illuminare sul che cosa e' un ripostisotry?
[12:52] <elkhanos> !es
[12:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:52] <tahsin> sorry again
[12:53] <tahsin> so why did i get failed to open device?
[12:53] <ardchoille> tahsin__: Probably because you have wacom stuff uncommented in xorg.conf and you have no wacom devices
[12:54] <tahsin> ardchoille: whats a wacom device ?
[12:54] <malik__> how do i close tabs with middle click in konqi in kubuntu fiesty?
[12:54] <ardchoille> tahsin: Tablet-type pc
[12:55] <MrC> hi fellows
[12:55] <tahsin> ardchoille: nope im on a real pc
[12:55] <Hirvinen> !grub
[12:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:55] <ardchoille> tahsin: I got rid of that error message by commenting out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf.
[12:55] <tahsin> ardchoille: but im connected through a mobile
[12:55] <MrC> has anyone in here tried LinuxMint?
[12:56] <ardchoille> !wacom
[12:56] <tahsin> ardchoille: what do i do ?
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <ardchoille> tahsin: First thing I would suggest is: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[12:58] <ardchoille> tahsin: Then open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor and comment the wacom stuff: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <ardchoille> But, be careful with that file, you're editing as root user.
[12:58] <MrC> i was wondering if i could/need to do a dual-boot if i install other linux distro,has anyone done that?
[12:58] <tahsin> ardchoille: didnt get the second part
[12:59] <MrC> I am thinking to try out LinuxMint ,so do you guys/gals know if i can do that without meesing up too much with my system
[01:00] <ardchoille> tahsin: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to http://pastebin.ca/  I'll show you how to edit it
[01:00] <tahsin> oka
[01:00] <rothchild> tahsin 4th post in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435864
[01:00] <tahsin> okay
[01:00] <ardchoille> tahsin: Did you backup xorg.conf like I suggested?
[01:01] <Contrast83> Xorg doesn't keep per-user settings anywhere, does it?
[01:01] <ardchoille> tahsin: See the link rothchild pasted, that is exactly how I did mine.
[01:01] <tahsin> ok
[01:02] <Contrast83> (I'm trying to figure out why the screen flickers when I log into KDE, as it didn't used to do that, and I'm assuming it has to do with either something I've done in KControl's Monitor & Display section - while not root - or xorg.conf).
[01:03] <ardchoille> rothchild: Thanks.. no need or me to type when there's a tutorial out there :)
[01:03] <sivaji> !pastebin
[01:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <Contrast83> KControl is also listing different resolution options than what's in xorg.conf. :-\
[01:04] <tahsin> ardchoille: commenting out means removing right ?
[01:05] <rothchild> tahsin not quite, if you put a # infront of any line of code it means it won't be read
[01:05] <ardchoille> tahsin: No, it doesn't. Did you read the tutorial link rothchild pasted?
[01:05] <Contrast83> tahsin, no. Just put "##" at the beginning of the line it's on.
[01:05] <rothchild> lol x2
[01:06] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22559/ installation error
[01:06] <ardchoille> tahsin: There will be a lot of reading required in your Linux "life", it's a good idea to read stuff that people post for you :)
[01:06] <tahsin> ardchoille: okay
[01:06] <Contrast83> Very true. I was only so quick to give an easy answer because I was going crazy trying to find out what that meant when I first started with Linux.
[01:08] <MrC> LinuxMint distribution of the GNU/Linux operating system which purpose is to produce an elegant, up to date and comfortable GNU/Linux desktop. Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, compatible with it and shares the same repositories.
[01:08] <tahsin> ardchoille: how can i be sure whether im doing the right thing can you guys check it out ?
[01:08] <Contrast83> Did anyone see my question on KControl/xorg.conf?
[01:08] <MrC> so does anyone knows if is necessary to creat a dual-boot to install it side by side of Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[01:08] <Contrast83> MrC, yes.
[01:09] <ardchoille> tahsin: Sure, you can pastebin a file and someone will have a look.
[01:09] <tahsin> ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/511293
[01:09] <tahsin> ardchoille: is it ok ? do i save it ?
[01:09] <Blissex> Contrast83: if you want, repeat a quesiton in full every 10 minutes or so... It may take time for someone who is interested or knows to appear.
[01:10] <ardchoille> tahsin: You missed the three lines near the bottom
[01:10] <Contrast83> Anytime it's two different distributions (and not just the same distribution with different desktop environments, e.g., K/X/Ubuntu), you have to dual-boot.
[01:10] <Contrast83> Thanks, Blissex
[01:10] <ardchoille> tahsin: You need to also comment lines 139, 140 and 141
[01:10] <tahsin> ardchoille: oh sorry i forgot
[01:11] <Blissex> Contrast83: BTW if it is a KControl question maybe it is not Ubuntu specific, try #KDE.
[01:11] <Contrast83> 'Preciate it.
[01:11] <Contrast83> I'm thinking it's more of a Xorg issue. Try #xorg?
[01:11] <tahsin> ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/511296
[01:12] <tahsin> ardchoille: is it okay now ?
[01:12] <ardchoille> tahsin: That looks good. Nwo save the file.
[01:12] <tahsin> ok
[01:12] <tahsin> ardchoille: done
[01:13] <ardchoille> Nwo you have to restart X which requires you to logout and hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[01:14] <Contrast83> What's the problem you're trying to solve, tahsin? Just curious.
[01:14] <tahsin> contrast83: failed to open a device or something
[01:14] <ardchoille> Contrast83: KDE kept trying to initialise wacom devices (due to xorg content) and he doesn't have any
[01:14] <tahsin> contrast83: im working with baghira at the moment
[01:15] <tahsin> ardchoille: now...baghira
[01:15] <Contrast83> Ohh ok. Was it causing serious problems, or just annoying, albeit harmless, errors when opening programs from the terminal?
[01:15] <ardchoille> tahsin: RE: baghira, I do't want to risk giving you bad info, so it's probably better for you to follow that tutorial
[01:16] <tahsin> ardchoille: okay no prob
[01:16] <ardchoille> Seems to be better than I can help anyway
[01:16] <rothchild> tahsin I just looked at the tutorial I'd say follow it up to stage 7 and then come back to us because the bits below there are a bit out of date
[01:17] <ardchoille> rothchild: I'll probably be asking you questions about it too :)
[01:17] <tahsin> rothchild: thanks let me come to step 7 first
[01:17] <tahsin> lot of reading
[01:17] <rothchild> no problem
[01:17] <ardchoille> lol, this is just the beginning, my friend.
[01:18] <rothchild> just go slow and concentrate on being accurate
[01:19] <tahsin> i think i need help in step 2
[01:20] <tahsin> from baghira has a session manager.......
[01:20] <tahsin> furthermore i cant add apllets with the right click
[01:20] <Blissex> as to Wacom device opens, by default they are configured in xorg.conf ''just in case'' but not many people have them. The relevant section of the 'xorg.conf' can be deleted and also the reference to it in the rest of the config.
[01:20] <tahsin> ardchoillo: right click on the menu bar isnt working
[01:24] <rothchild> tahsin sorry i'm stumped
[01:24] <tahsin> rothchild: no prob
[01:24] <tahsin> rothchild: but the right click on the panel menu isnt working
[01:25] <rothchild> tahsin when I used baghiral I only used it for the look rather than the whole osx working practice, it's acually better when you build a hybrid imo
[01:25] <tahsin> rothchild: so im unable to add any applet
[01:25] <tahsin> i c
[01:26] <sivaji> 64 bit processor consumes 64 bit to store a unit data in memory ,whereas 32bit processor consumes 32bit to store a unit of data , it means 64 bit is not efficient is it so
[01:27] <rothchild> tahsin are you saying there is no rightclick menu or there is not the baghira applett to add?
[01:27] <tahsin> rothchild: when i right click on the panel nothing happens
[01:28] <tahsin> rothchild: but i guess an add applet option should be there right?
[01:28] <rothchild> tahsin what happens if you rightclick on the regular kicker bar at the bottom of the screen?
[01:29] <tahsin> rothchild: thats working fine ...i get the add applet option on the regular 1 but not on the top panel
[01:29] <rothchild> can you see the baghira starter option in that menu?
[01:29] <tahsin> rothchild: yes i can
[01:30] <tahsin> rothchild: i think i got it working
[01:30] <rothchild> tahin good stuff keep plugging away at it you'll be fine
[01:31] <tahsin> rothchild: how do i shorten the panel
[01:31] <tahsin> rothchild: shorten its length
[01:31] <rothchild> I gotta go now sorry real world awaits!
[01:31] <tahsin> rothchild: lol okay thanks for the help
[01:31] <tahsin> cheers !
[01:31] <rothchild> tahsin good luck!
[01:32] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:32] <sivaji>  my system hang when i play games why ?
[01:32] <Ace2016> can someone help me increase my refresh rate?  its stuck at 50 :( dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did not help
[01:32] <Ace2016> sivaji: drivers?
[01:32] <Ace2016> sivaji: is it an ati card?
[01:32] <sivaji> no
[01:33] <Ace2016> have you installed all the correct drivers? and can your system fast enough to run the game? (what game is it?)
[01:34] <sivaji> how to install drivers
[01:34] <Ace2016> sivaji: what graphics card do you have
[01:34] <Ace2016> ???
[01:35] <sivaji> i dont know
[01:35] <troy> sivaji S3? ^)
[01:35] <sivaji> i dont know is there any way to see graphic card installed or not
[01:36] <troy> sivaji try to see on graphic card ))
[01:36] <Ace2016> sivaji: run lspci  from konsole, from that list can you identify your graphics card?
[01:36] <Jucato> the fact that you can see this on your monitor means you have a graphics card installed.
[01:37] <Jucato> lspci | grep -i vga
[01:38] <sivaji> !pastebin
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:38] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[01:38] <sivaji> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[01:39] <Jucato> troy: wow! smart guess :)
[01:39] <troy> muahaaa
[01:40] <tahsin> ardchoille: u there?
[01:40] <tahsin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[01:40] <tahsin>   Major opcode:  144
[01:40] <tahsin>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:40] <tahsin>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:40] <tahsin> Failed to open device
[01:40] <sivaji> troy ple tell whether it is install or not
[01:40] <tahsin> y do i get this ?
[01:41] <troy> sivaji i'm sure that installed )))
[01:41] <Ace2016> tahsin: ignore that, it does nothing
[01:41] <sivaji> then why my system hang when i play 3d games
[01:41] <troy> tahsin i'm have this trouble too )
[01:42] <troy> sivaji cuz' your video very "fast"
[01:42] <tahsin> ace2016: im working with baghira and it says me to type bab in konsole and when i typed that i got this
[01:42] <troy> sivaji "fast" = damn old
[01:43] <sivaji> troy i cant get u
[01:43] <krysiu> hi all
[01:43] <Ace2016> tahsin: its caused by the stupid wacom stuff ubuntu add to startup, so if you don't have a wacom tablet mouse thing it gives the error, quite simple to get rid of though
[01:43] <troy> sivaji try to change your video card man
[01:43] <sivaji> troy how
[01:44] <tahsin> ace2016: i did that but im still having the error
[01:45] <troy> sivaji for example buy )
[01:46] <Jucato> Ace2016: it's not for wacom tablet though
[01:46] <Ace2016> tahsin: run kdesu kwrite, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, go down to the       Section "ServerLayout"   at the end, and put a # in front of: InputDevice     "stylus"   "cursor" and "eraser"     now restart the computer and they'll go away
[01:46] <Jucato> Ace2016: he is gone
[01:46] <Ace2016> :(
[01:47] <sivaji> troy but windows supports all games
[01:47] <Ace2016> what gave are you trying to play?
[01:47] <troy> sivaji yeah..what's games?
[01:48] <troy> sivaji zuma or smth else?
[01:49] <sivaji> troy windows supports all games but kubuntu doesnt supports even 2d games
[01:49] <Ace2016> bye all
[01:50] <troy> sivaji what's games support windows
[01:50] <troy> ?
[01:52] <troy> sivaji cleverly opinion - install new drivers...but for this video......
[01:52] <sivaji> troy windows supports all games need for speed , nightfire ,quake 3 arena
[01:52] <Jucato> troy: the ones that were made in partnership with MS :D
[01:54] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22563/ dpkg crashed
[01:54] <troy> Jucato )))
[01:56] <luke__> can somebody please tell me how to downgrade Feisty from KDE 3.5.7 to KDE 3.5.6
[01:56] <luke__> KDE 3.5.7 causes more problems than it solves
[02:00] <sivaji> troy: ple help me see that link
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> for some reason I keep expecting someone to yell "Jucato!! :)"
[02:01] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: intelikey's not here :)
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> haha.
[02:01] <belsebub> after an upgrade from edgy to feisty yesterday, i can no longer post  in my forum... (apache 2 -> 2.2 is the most apparent change, but i've configured those the same)
[02:01] <AFaith> hello people!i've got a question about KDE
[02:02] <AFaith> is it really thatthe 3.5.7 version was launched ?
[02:02] <AFaith> btw, hello Admiral_Chicago! i know you :P
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> AFaith: yes 3.5.7 is the latest version, it has kubuntu packages as well
[02:02] <belsebub> the forum software is xennobb, which official website is offline
[02:02] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: kubuntu packages :D ?
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu.org
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> the news is on there and it'll link you to the latest repo
[02:03] <AFaith> i see :-?
[02:03] <AFaith> any personal impressions about kde 3.5.7 for kubuntu ?
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> i haven't noticed a big difference at all
[02:04] <belsebub> aren't they just fixing bugs now in 3.5.x
[02:05] <Jucato> they sneaked in a few small new features too
[02:05] <AFaith> i see... i
[02:05] <AFaith> i'm waiting for kde4
[02:05] <AFaith> i've heard that will be a very very different release
[02:05] <Jucato> longish wait :)
[02:05] <belsebub> we all do :)
[02:05] <AFaith> i might say revolutionary
[02:05] <Jucato> of course it will be very very different
[02:06] <Jucato> hm.. revolutionary? don't expect too much from the 4.0 release
[02:06] <AFaith> have you used the alpha/beta release ?
[02:06] <AFaith> Jucato: why not ?
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> AFaith: i used the alpha, catostophic failure...nothing launched
[02:06] <stuwar44> kde4 is not kde4.0
[02:06] <Jucato> KDE 4 refers to the *whole* release cycle for the KDE 4 series
[02:06] <Jucato> and as stuwar44 said, KDE 4 is not KDE 4.0
[02:07] <AFaith> a bit confused
[02:07] <Jucato> KDE 4.0 is the first (major) release for the KDE 4 series
[02:07] <AFaith> are you telling me that kde4 is not the same with kde 4.0
[02:07] <stuwar44> kde4 is kde4.0, kde4.1 and so on
[02:07] <Jucato> AFaith: technically, yes
[02:07] <stuwar44> the best version will be the kde 4.6 or so
[02:07] <stuwar44> the latest before kde 5
[02:08] <Jucato> KDE 4 refers to the *whole* release cycle for the KDE 4 series: KDE 4.0, KDE 4.0.1, etc. KDE 4.1, KDE 4.1.1, etc. up to KDE 4.x
[02:08] <Jucato> AFaith: KDE 4 is a "life cycle". KDE 4.0 up to KDE 4.whatever are release for the KDE 4 cycle
[02:09] <AFaith> i see...
[02:09] <erik_> hi all
[02:09] <Jucato> AFaith: the reason I said not to expect too much from KDE 4.0 is that it's the first release. they are treading on new territory so it might not be as smooth as expected
[02:09] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: you've told me that the alpha is catastrophic ... why ?
[02:09] <erik_> can I have a question ?
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> it launched kicker and crashed X and returned me to KDM
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> erik_: ask
[02:09] <AFaith> Jucato: i was expecting new features, not stability :P
[02:10] <Jucato> AFaith: also, some of the planned features for KDE 4 will not make it to KDE 4.0, but for the following releases
[02:10] <Jucato> AFaith: like I said, not all new/planned features
[02:10] <Jucato> erik_: go ahead and ask :)
[02:10] <AFaith> !question | erik_:
[02:10] <ubotu> erik_:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:10] <erik_> I have a new feisty on my new travelmate 6410 laptop
[02:10] <erik_> sound does not work :(
[02:10] <AFaith> erik_: what does lspci is saying to you ?
[02:10] <Jucato> AFaith: and even if they do make it in KDE 4.0, they are not promised to be in their final state. expect things to settle down around 4.1
[02:11] <erik_> it has: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:11] <erik_> my kernel is 2.6.20-16-386
[02:11] <belsebub> any ideas where i can get help with xennobb?
[02:12] <AFaith> Jucato: i see ... so i wanted to use again kde, but the new version .. and you're pre-advice (if i can name it like this) it's to wait until 4.1
[02:12] <AFaith> erik_: what is google saying about your problem ?
[02:12] <AFaith> !laptop
[02:12] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:13] <AFaith> !sound
[02:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:13] <AFaith> !intel audio
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <AFaith> !intel
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <erik_> I've found these: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+question/6436
[02:13] <Jucato> AFaith: not really. you can safely use 4.0. I'm just saying don't expect that 4.0 *is* *THE* KDE 4 :)
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> erik_: why don't you request a support ticket on LP, they may be able to help as well
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> anyways. /me is off till tomorrow
[02:14] <AFaith> ok Jucato! now i've understood the meaning of KDE4 and KDE 4.0
[02:14] <Jucato> bye Admiral_Chicago!
[02:14] <AFaith> bye bye Admiral_Chicago!
[02:14] <erik_> Admiral_Chicago: just tried here first
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !sound
[02:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:14] <AFaith> nice talking to you again
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> erik_: those links above might help
[02:15] <Jucato> AFaith: but don't worry. I'm sure the KDE devs will try to stabilize and put in new features ASAP.
[02:15] <erik_> ok, I'm checking it
[02:15] <Jucato> AFaith: there are still a lot of great things to look forward to, even just in KDE 4.0
[02:16] <erik_> coming back, if it still does not work :)
[02:16] <AFaith> Jucato: have you used the alpha release ?
[02:16] <Jucato> just slightly
[02:16] <AFaith> and your personal impression ?
[02:17] <AFaith> apt-get install php5-cgi php5-mysql php5-gd php5
[02:17] <AFaith> oh, sorry :P wrong window :))
[02:17] <Jucato> personal impression? "it's alpha" :)
[02:17] <AFaith> lol
[02:17] <Jucato> it runs, it breaks, it crashes, it wows, it disapoints. it's alpha :)
[02:17] <henri__> hi, does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror
[02:18] <AFaith> :))
[02:18] <AFaith> nice description
[02:18] <AFaith> have you spotted new programs ?
[02:18] <Jucato> well the live cd had lots of it, but I didn't really take a look into them. I did try krunner (the new Run Command "and more" app)
[02:19] <henri__> Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?
[02:19] <AFaith> i see... you're making me curious lol!!! and i'm a curios guy :))
[02:21] <logixoul> moin. sound input from my mic only works when the red led for "capture" in kmix is ON. however, when I turn it on, it goes instantly off again. any fix?
[02:22] <AFaith> logixoul: i've got the same problem a few months ago
[02:22] <AFaith> i'm also interested to find out an answer
[02:22] <logixoul> aha
[02:23] <AFaith> logixoul: if i remember well, i've tried alsaconf in Konsole
[02:23] <AFaith> nop
[02:23] <AFaith> not alsaconf
[02:23] <AFaith> the console method to setup the volume
[02:23] <logixoul> alsamixer?
[02:23] <AFaith> i don't remember the exact command now ...
[02:23] <AFaith> yes
[02:23] <AFaith> alsamixer!
[02:23] <logixoul> yeah, I'm installing that now
[02:23] <AFaith> :P
[02:24] <LjL> ubotwo part
[02:24] <logixoul> qamix too
[02:24] <brandon> what can be wrong with caffine it wont play my movie?
[02:25] <logixoul> what error message does kaffeine show?
[02:26] <brandon> source cant be read
[02:26] <logixoul> what are you trying to play?
[02:26] <AFaith> where is that *source* located ?
[02:26] <dromer> ok, the weirdest thing; I bought a 2nd hand 2.5" hd for my ancient laptop and tried to partition it, then it disappeared from fdisk -l o.O
[02:26] <brandon> crank
[02:26] <dromer> here's what I did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22564/
[02:27] <brandon> u there?/
[02:28] <logixoul> AFaith: works fine with qamix =)
[02:28] <logixoul> brandon: aaah, you mean the Crank movie? heh. ok, answer AFaith's question now...
[02:29] <logixoul> (boy that movie ruled =)
[02:29] <brandon> yea
[02:30] <brandon> where do u download afaith
[02:30] <logixoul> huh?
[02:30] <logixoul> AFaith is one of the guys in this chat
[02:30] <brandon> oh thoughht it was program
[02:30] <brandon> what do i use to view my dvd
[02:30] <logixoul> kaffeine
[02:31] <brandon> it wont work
[02:31] <logixoul> oh fuck that
[02:31] <AFaith> sorry ... got to go
[02:31] <AFaith> brb
[02:31] <LjL> !language
[02:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <erik_> so, alsamixer shows that PCM, Front, CD, PC Speaker is on, and has around -8 dB
[02:33] <erik_> my snd_hda_intel module is loaded, and it is used
[02:33] <erik_> aplay -l shows my card0 as the Intel HDA device
[02:33] <erik_> what else can be wrong ?
[02:34] <erik_> going crazy :)
[02:35] <ahmed> guys , wat was to type in terminal to get to the sound manager of realtek ??
[02:35] <kevin> what a boring place
[02:46] <hauppage> hi how do i make a Conexant Dynalink 56pmi modem work (pci) ?
[02:47] <kevin> no ide
[02:47] <italo> hallo
[02:47] <kevin> No one talks here..its a bit gay
[02:48] <manwithaface> ollah
[02:49] <henri__> Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?
[02:50] <kristjan_> !beagle
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beagle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <ahmed> does any one know how to access the realtek / alsa mixer fromthe terminal ?
[02:50] <manwithaface> henri_: what are you trying to hide?
[02:50] <kristjan_> ahmed: run alsamixer
[02:51] <kristjan_> !desktop search
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Castor_Troy> who's know: xmms menu looks strange - unexplained simbols...few days later all be ok..
[02:54] <ahmed> ubuntustudio support here ??
[02:55] <Jucato> !ubuntustudio
[02:55] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[02:55] <manwithaface> ahmed: whats the question?
[02:56] <ahmed> i installed ubuntu studio on ubuntu using the repo
[02:56] <ahmed> then i installed kde..
[02:56] <ahmed> and it seems that studio stuff are working better with gnome
[02:56] <manwithaface> so now you have kubuntustudio
[02:56] <ahmed> is kde messing studio  ??
[02:56] <ahmed> well not exactly
[02:56] <ahmed> no studo theme for kde
[02:56] <ahmed> studio*
[02:56] <manwithaface> true, it is a metacity theme
[02:57] <manwithaface> perhaps someone has posted a studio kde theme on kde-look.org though
[02:57] <Cugel> If anyone knows of a better script for putting the track you're listening with Amarok to Konversation, I'd be pleased to know!
[03:00] <frojnd> I've downloaded remuco-server-amarok_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb  how can I install that kind of programs?
[03:01] <frojnd> chmod x remuco-server-amarok_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb  ?
[03:01] <frojnd> and than .remuco-server-amarok_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2feisty_i386.deb ?
[03:01] <Jucato> frojnd: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> install package
[03:01] <Jucato> or "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
[03:01] <Jucato> er no quotes
[03:01] <frojnd> ok tnx
[03:02] <boubbin> !nvidia
[03:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:03] <boubbin> i cant find the "System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager" in kubuntu
[03:03] <mats> !intel
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <Jucato> boubbin: becuase that's only for Ubuntu
[03:04] <logixoul> hi. I'm no longer asked for the root password for adminitstrative tasks in my Feisty. Now, I *love* that :) but am I not in a security risk?
[03:04] <logixoul> like, can't I be hacked or something?
[03:04] <logixoul> administrative*
[03:04] <AFaith> here again
[03:05] <AFaith> logixoul: you might be ;)
[03:05] <brandon> yea
[03:05] <mats> you still have to login with a pass?
[03:05] <logixoul> mats: my kdm is set to autologin
[03:05] <brandon> hey faith
[03:05] <mats> logixoul: ok, then you should close sshd and hope no one other than you gets their hand on your oc
[03:06] <mats> pc
[03:06] <brandon> how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:06] <mats> ;)
[03:06] <mats> ls Desktop/  ?
[03:06] <brandon>  how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:07] <brandon>  how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:07] <brandon>  how do u navgate to the desktop with the terminal program
[03:07] <logixoul> moron.
[03:07] <kristjan_> cd Desktop
[03:07] <Jucato> brandon: cd ~/Desktop
[03:07] <AFaith> brandon: try not to spam this channel
[03:07] <AFaith> cd ~/Desktop
[03:07] <AFaith> like Jucato said
[03:07] <Jucato> brandon: and please don't keep on repeating the same question per second
[03:08] <henri__> Does anyone know how to add "kerry beagle - disable" button in konqueror, so the page doesn't get indexed?
[03:08] <brandon> well if u answered it i wouldnt have 2
[03:08] <mats> jerk.
[03:08] <Jucato> !patience | brandon
[03:08] <ubotu> brandon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:09] <Castor_Troy> does anybody know how i can configure WeatherWatch karamba widget?
[03:09] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: rightclick->configure, I suppose =)
[03:09] <Castor_Troy> logixoul, button configure isnt active (
[03:09] <Zeelot> hmm
[03:09] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: hmm, have you checked this applet's KDE-Apps page? it probably contains instructions ;)
[03:10] <Zeelot> the menu on my konversation vanished...???anyone know what's going on?
[03:10] <mats> is there conf-file in  ~/etc ?
[03:10] <Castor_Troy> logixoul no ideas there (((
[03:10] <logixoul> mats: ~/etc ? I don't have this dir, what's supposed to be in there?
[03:10] <logixoul> Zeelot: ctrl+m to get it back
[03:11] <^RiaN^> mats: how to install java in .bin format
[03:11] <Zeelot> yay *_*
[03:11] <BluesKaj> Zeelot, settings / hide-unhide menubar
[03:11] <Zeelot> thanks
[03:11] <logixoul> BluesKaj: lol...
[03:11] <Jucato> BluesKaj: how can he go to Settings?
[03:11] <logixoul> exactly...
[03:12] <mats> logixoul: hiih, i ment /etc ;)
[03:12] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: can I have a link to this please?
[03:12] <logixoul> mats ;)
[03:12] <Castor_Troy> logixoul sec
[03:12] <BluesKaj> <---hehe , thot he was talking about the icons
[03:12] <logixoul> the toolbar? right.
[03:12] <AFaith> hello BluesKaj!
[03:12] <AFaith> remember me :P ?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> <--old windows guy ,ppl have to forgive me
[03:13] <AFaith> huh ? o.0
[03:13] <BluesKaj> hi AFaith
[03:13] <Jucato> BluesKaj: we don't easily forgive :)
[03:14] <BluesKaj> tuff :)
[03:14] <AFaith> BluesKaj: are you reffering to me in this reply : <--old windows guy ,ppl have to forgive me
[03:14] <BluesKaj> nope
[03:14] <logixoul> AFaith: nope, to Jucato =)
[03:14] <AFaith> oh =) lol
[03:15] <AFaith> !lag
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <Castor_Troy> logixoul: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/WeatherWatch?content=16396
[03:15] <AFaith> how do i check my lag ?
[03:15] <mats> http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-whales26may26,1,497053.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-california what a 1. news from google ;D "Whales get a holiday break"
[03:15] <Jucato> AFaith: /ping AFaith
[03:15] <logixoul> AFaith: if you're using konversation, see the statusbar
[03:15] <AFaith> Jucato & logixoul : i'm using gaim 2.0.0beta6
[03:16] <AFaith> 1 secound :P
[03:16] <BluesKaj> gaim? ..why ?
[03:16] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: apparently this one doesn't allow configuration. try Liquid Weather ++
[03:16] <AFaith> BluesKaj: because i'm using Gnome now (ubuntu feisty)
[03:17] <logixoul> traitor!
[03:17] <AFaith> but #kubuntu is a really nice channel and i like it here
[03:17] <BluesKaj> bah...goto #ubuntu then :)
[03:17] <logixoul> dude, gotos are evil
[03:17] <AFaith> logixoul: though i use Gnome, i like KDE ... let's say i'm forced to use gnome for the moment
[03:17] <logixoul> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2819 <--- woah cool =)
[03:18] <Castor_Troy> logixoul thx
[03:18] <logixoul> Castor_Troy: np
[03:18] <^RiaN^> logixoul:  what's linux software like directx on linux
[03:18] <^RiaN^> logixoul:  what's linux software like directx on windows
[03:18] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: OpenGL for the DirectShow part
[03:18] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: OpenAL for the audio part
[03:18] <logixoul> etc
[03:18] <^RiaN^> how can i get it
[03:18] <BluesKaj> <---not a "dude" ...old retired guy maybe , but no "dude"
[03:18] <AFaith> BluesKaj: i really like this channel. in #ubuntu is ... bleah ... to bussy channel :)
[03:18] <logixoul> BluesKaj: ah heh ;) I'm 17
[03:19] <^RiaN^> logixoul:  can i use adept-manager for that
[03:19] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: why?
[03:19] <BluesKaj> yeah , busy cuz gnome is unfamiliar territory when you migrate from windows
[03:19] <^RiaN^> so, what should i do
[03:20] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: what is your ultimate desire?
[03:20] <AFaith> BluesKaj: yes, but *buntu is the most userfriendly disitribution that you migrate from windows
[03:20] <logixoul> er, that sounded wrong.
[03:20] <GrueTamer> BluesKaj: well, i dont quite know whats happening, but i wish you luck migrating from windows, its worth it
[03:20] <BluesKaj> AFaith, Kubuntu is
[03:20] <AFaith> many n00bs consider kubuntu another distribution ... not ubuntu with kde
[03:20] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: you just wanna play a game or something?
[03:21] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:21] <GrueTamer> AFaith: hehe, ill drink to that :)
[03:21] <AFaith> BluesKaj: i've said *buntu (including ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu, the official ubuntu releases)
[03:21] <brandon> where is Mozilla plugins directory?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> been in kubuntu for about 9mos now
[03:21] <AFaith> GrueTamer: :P why ?
[03:21] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: if you use adept to install the game, any dependencies (such as opengl) will be automagically installed
[03:21] <brandon>  where is Mozilla plugins directory?
[03:21] <AFaith> brandon: check ~/.mozilla
[03:21] <^RiaN^> logixoul: yes for game
[03:22] <GrueTamer> ive been trying to help someone convert to linux, and they keep telling me that kubuntu is an easier linux distro to use
[03:22] <AFaith> GrueTamer: and it is!
[03:22] <GrueTamer> not for me
[03:22] <AFaith> but the latest kubuntu i've used (dapper) had a few problems
[03:22] <brandon> kubuntu's kde is a lot like windows
[03:22] <AFaith> GrueTamer: whats your problem then ?
[03:22] <logixoul> brandon: just so you know, asking the same question with less than 10 minutes in between makes you look like a fucking idiot. stop it, and be patient. Don't polute the channel, other people are also trying to have conversations here.
[03:23] <GrueTamer> problems? no, no problems
[03:23] <^RiaN^> logixoul: how about gunbound
[03:23] <GrueTamer> i just think that wmii, icewm, and fluxbox/blackbox/whatever other *box is easier for me
[03:23] <^RiaN^> logixoul: how to install it
[03:23] <PriceChild> !ohmy | logixoul
[03:23] <ubotu> logixoul: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:23] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: try adept
[03:24] <BluesKaj> GrueTamer, so the pubilicity says ...easier to install maybe , not so arcane , understandable terms are used as opposed to debian, where you need a linux dictionary to figure out what the instructions mean
[03:24] <logixoul> PriceChild: hmm... but then again, are there ops to filter out people like brandon?
[03:24] <AFaith> GrueTamer: are you telling me that kde is to hard for you o.0 ?
[03:24] <^RiaN^> logixoul: how to install gunbound i mean
[03:24] <AFaith> *to difficult to use
[03:24] <GrueTamer> nah
[03:24] <^RiaN^> i just done with ragnarok
[03:24] <PriceChild> logixoul, if you have a problem with a user then please contact an op. (/msg chanserv access #channel list)
[03:25] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: adept is the tool you generally use to install stuff.
[03:25] <GrueTamer> its not hard, i just prefer other things, and im so used to wmii and its ways that its easier for me
[03:25] <GrueTamer> same with the others
[03:25] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: including games
[03:25] <logixoul> PriceChild: good call, thanks
[03:25] <^RiaN^> but i want to install game gunbound
[03:25] <AFaith> i see ... you preffer lightweight
[03:25] <GrueTamer> yeah
[03:25] <GrueTamer> i come in here mostly to help people out
[03:26] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: what part of "use adept to install gunbound" is so hard to understand?
[03:26] <^RiaN^> no
[03:26] <logixoul> GrueTamer: lol man, nice nick. I keep reading it as TrueGamer, it makes sense either way :)
[03:26] <^RiaN^> i've download the gunbound
[03:26] <GrueTamer> hahaha
[03:26] <^RiaN^> and want to install it
[03:26] <GrueTamer> isnt gunbound a windows game?
[03:26] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:27] <^RiaN^> how to run it on linux
[03:27] <GrueTamer> you could try wine
[03:27] <^RiaN^> i do
[03:27] <GrueTamer> and just clickin on the installer doesnt work?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> gamerz.... bah , get an xbox!
[03:27] <^RiaN^> but it say "make sure your x server installed and $DISPLAY correctly
[03:27] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:27] <GrueTamer> ive got a 360 right next to me...gotta love GoW
[03:28] <BluesKaj> bye
[03:28] <frojnd> wha does that mean? Device search job /home/q/.kde/share/apps/kbluetoothd/discovery_jobs/test1 returned with error code 127.
[03:28] <logixoul> ^RiaN^: windows games generally don't work on linux. If you try wine, there's a small chance that it might still work (buggy though). Either that or you could buy Cedega or Crossover Office so the likelihood that the game works is better.
[03:29] <BluesKaj> frojnd, unless you have bluetooth ,mignore it
[03:29] <Sarazar> Diablo II works fine on my ubuntu machine thank you
[03:29] <^RiaN^> i've try many emulator
[03:29] <frojnd> BluesKaj: I have bluet tooth..
[03:29] <GrueTamer> ut2k4 works...oh, wait, its linux native :)
[03:29] <^RiaN^> cadega, crossover, and wine
[03:29] <GrueTamer> ^RiaN^: wine is not an emulator
[03:29] <frojnd> BluesKaj: I wanna conncet nokia and my computer..
[03:29] <GrueTamer> its what wine stands for :)
[03:29] <^RiaN^> oo
[03:30] <AFaith> hey, i've seend that you're talking about games :P
[03:30] <^RiaN^> where must i download wine in .deb
[03:30] <AFaith> recomand me a few ones :)
[03:30] <logixoul> GrueTamer: is there a word that means "app that runs apps on a platform they weren't written to run on" then? :)
[03:30] <^RiaN^> oo
[03:30] <^RiaN^> my english is not to good
[03:30] <^RiaN^> :)
[03:31] <^RiaN^> sory
[03:31] <BluesKaj> ^RiaN^, google for wine repository
[03:31] <GrueTamer> logixoul: correct me if im wrong, but i think wine like, runs a windows program compliant API to run the windows programs
[03:31] <logixoul> AFaith: openarena, nexuiz, tremulous, liquidwar, netpanzer, vegastrike, xmoto
[03:31] <AFaith> i've tryied Planet Penguin Racer (awsome), frozen buble (funny) but i wand more :P
[03:31] <compilerwriter> Would some one please tell me difference between the suspend and Hibernate options at the logout screen?
[03:31] <GrueTamer> alien arena is good, but its not in apt
[03:31] <^RiaN^> how alien it size
[03:31] <AFaith> logixoul: nexuiz it's not running smoothly on my lod GeForce4 :(
[03:31] <ctothej> After plugging in a usb hard drive into my external creative-based usb sound card, the sound card is no longer recognized. I think plugging in the usb drive could have been the cause, but am not positive. How can I reenable the usb sound card? it is no longer listed as a device in the sound config.
[03:32] <GrueTamer> nexuiz runs alright for me, but not great
[03:32] <logixoul> AFaith: disable "OpenGL 2.0 shaders" in the settings to fix that =)
[03:32] <AFaith> logixoul: tell me more about : openarena, tremulous, liquidwar, netpanzer, vegastrike and xmoto please :P
[03:32] <AFaith> logixoul: i've removed it :-"
[03:32] <logixoul> AFaith: openarena is like quake 3 only it doesn't look as cool.
[03:32] <GrueTamer> openarena is like a free gpl compliant quake 3
[03:33] <logixoul> AFaith: tremulous is aliens vs humans with strategy elements
[03:33] <GrueTamer> tremulous is aliens vs humans kind of like gloom and natural selection, with bad antilag
[03:33] <GrueTamer> xmoto is a motorcross game with like, a thousand levels, VERY FUN
[03:33] <logixoul> AFaith: liquidwar is reaaaaly fun small game with lots of thinking where you try to eat you enemy's liquid
[03:33] <logixoul> AFaith: netpanzer is a strategy like Panzer General which I haven't played much but seems okay
[03:34] <logixoul> AFaith: vegastrike is like Freelancer, but *really* buggy
[03:34] <GrueTamer> ive heard that Alien Arena is gonna be in apt soon, just makin .deb files for it
[03:34] <logixoul> AFaith: xmoto is a 2d motor game where you collect, uh, strawberries oO
[03:34] <^RiaN^> really
[03:34] <^RiaN^> lol
[03:34] <GrueTamer> xmoto is the best on that list, i think
[03:34] <GrueTamer> because you never run out of levels to play
[03:35] <AFaith> ok, i'll google them :P
[03:35] <frojnd> if I wanna install more than 2 packages at the same time, what is the command ?
[03:35] <logixoul> AFaith: no, just install them with Adept ;)
[03:35] <GrueTamer> make sure you dont get xmoto from apt, though, unless they have the newest version in it now
[03:35] <AFaith> i can find them in apt repos :O ?
[03:35] <GrueTamer> all of them
[03:35] <logixoul> AFaith: huh, weird
[03:35] <AFaith> wow!!!
[03:35] <AFaith> nice!
[03:35] <GrueTamer> but unless xmoto is at version 0.2.7, dont get it
[03:35] <GrueTamer> theres deb files on the site to get instead, but i bet they updated that by now
[03:35] <AFaith> lets try again with nexuiz :P
[03:35] <GrueTamer> (in the apt repos, at least)
[03:36] <chuen> Hi - can anyone help me with a 'boot' problem?
[03:36] <^RiaN^> torcs is good too
[03:36] <GrueTamer> AFaith: http://red.planetarena.org   i found that alien arena's website, it comes in a zip file...or you could get it from svn and then compile the linux binaries
[03:36] <GrueTamer> for an extra new version
[03:37] <AFaith> i see :-?
[03:37] <AFaith> but for the moment i'm installing nexuiz again :P and i'm trying to disable open gl 2.0
[03:37] <AFaith> :D
[03:37] <GrueTamer> suit yourself
[03:38] <AFaith> but a racing game ? like need for speed or something like this ?
[03:38] <GrueTamer> ugh, good racing games are hard to find
[03:38] <GrueTamer> tuxracer was pretty lame, but you could give it a try
[03:38] <logixoul> AFaith: no, torcs sucks. no match to NFS :(
[03:38] <logixoul> gotta try that one
[03:39] <AFaith> see`ya logixoul! thanks for the tips you've gave me :P
[03:39] <guille> hi
[03:40] <AFaith> GrueTamer: tuxracer ... pretty lame, but not so good
[03:40] <AFaith> *bad
[03:40] <AFaith> hi guille!
[03:40] <frojnd> where can I get package libbluetooth2-dev  and if I find it in .deb file. Can I install it with dpkg so when I will install other program this dependence libbluetooth2-dev will be recognized as installed... ?? any ideas
[03:40] <pointwood> anyone upgraded to kde 3.5.7? works without problems?
[03:40] <AFaith> GrueTamer: i've played a racing game in mandriva a few months ago .. but i was controlling the car by maus
[03:41] <AFaith> *mouse
[03:41] <GrueTamer> weird
[03:41] <AFaith> pointwood: someone complained earlier that there are a lot of bugs in kde 3.5.7
[03:41] <pointwood> ok
[03:41] <guille> pointwood: the packages aren't in kubuntu repositories
[03:41] <pointwood> I will not upgrade then
[03:42] <guille> I can't close apps using the task bar, when I open the menu with right click, "close" option is disabled (grey color), is there a solution?
[03:42] <pointwood> guille: I know, you have to add an extra repo
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.7
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.6
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.5
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.4
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> grr
[03:42] <pointwood> heh
[03:42] <Hobbsee> pointwood: /topic
[03:42] <Hobbsee> we used to have factoids for it
[03:42] <Hobbsee> yes, there are some bugs in it
[03:43] <AFaith> see`ya soon ... i'm trying nexuiz now :P
[03:45] <guille> anyone can close windows making right click on the task bar->close
[03:47] <dthacker> h
[03:47] <dthacker> hello
[03:49] <Jahmon> can anyone remind me of what command i have to type in the konsole to see the errors i see when kubuntu boots (when i see the upsplash)
[03:49] <dthacker> Jahmon: dmesg
[03:49] <Jahmon> thanks a lot !
[03:50] <dthacker> Jahmon: np :)
[03:54] <boubbin> Jucato how to install nvidia drivers then ?
[03:55] <Jucato> boubbin: same way as always
[03:55] <boubbin> you mean with adept ?
[03:55] <boubbin> by thw wiki ?
[03:56] <Jucato> nvidia-glx
[03:56] <boubbin> legacy actually.
[03:56] <Jucato> or nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new
[03:56] <boubbin> but its the same
[03:56] <boubbin> i still have to do some commandline settings ?
[03:57] <Jucato> yep
[03:57] <Jucato> not sure if Monitor & Display covers it though
[03:58] <Jucato> I mean after nvidia-glx-legacy is installed
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Hobbsee, just use apt : sudoa apt-get upgrade , after you  copy these debs into your sources list and apt-get update
[03:58] <Jucato> and don't forget to install linux-restriced-modules-generic
[03:58] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks ;)
[03:58] <Hobbsee> BluesKaj: i'm running gutsy
[03:59] <BluesKaj> Hobbsee, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[03:59] <Hobbsee> BluesKaj: indeed.
[03:59] <BluesKaj> why so soon Hobbsee?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> should say is uploaded.  it's finished
[03:59] <Hobbsee> why so soon what?
[04:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: nah. I don't think Riddell includes ubuntu+1 kde versions in the announcements either
[04:00] <BluesKaj> gutsy
[04:00] <boubbin> Jucato yeah.
[04:00] <dthacker> are there daily build for gutsy already?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it is there
[04:00] <Jucato> the presumption is that the devel version always gets the latest
[04:00] <Hobbsee> dthacker: no.  you can dist-upgrade though
[04:00] <Jucato> lol /me checks
[04:00] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that
[04:01] <Jucato> (it also prevents unknowing users from mistaking a devel version as the latest stable version :P)
[04:01] <Jucato> s/prevents/protects/
[04:02] <BluesKaj> Hobbsee, is it stable? and what about hardware recognition ?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> BluesKaj: it's not stable.
[04:03] <BluesKaj> I hope the new linux drivers that ATI claims they are writing for the open source commmunity are included in the final release ...at least ones that work :)
[04:04] <harmental> hey guys...i have a strange problem with my wifi connection....
[04:04] <Jucato> BluesKaj: depends a lot on when they release it, how (the license) they release it, and who will package it
[04:04] <harmental> my pc connects automatically at startup to my router...
[04:05] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: where can I find some details?
[04:05] <harmental> but i can access the internet
[04:05] <BluesKaj> hate like hell to go out and buy a nVidia graphics card only to have ATI finally do right by their customers who prefer linux
[04:05] <harmental> i have to disconnect and reconnect manually to make it work...
[04:05] <harmental> any ideas?
[04:05] <dthacker> harmental: is that *can't* access the internet?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, maybe google , the ATI chief made an anouncement at some conference a few weeks ago
[04:06] <harmental> dthacker: yeap....sorry (if it werent the case...i wouldn have a problem at all ;op)
[04:06] <federica> hi
[04:07] <federica> just installed kubuntu, i can surf with firefox and update with apt but can't surf with konqueror
[04:07] <dthacker> harmental: what was the last setting you changed or package you upgraded?
[04:07] <dettoaltrimenti> when I try to burn a dvd, in gnomebaker or brasero, I get this error- :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h] : Input/output error
[04:08] <BluesKaj> ATI - LINUX :  http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/05/09/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/
[04:08] <AFaith> GrueTamer: are you online ?
[04:08] <harmental> i updated to edgy...
[04:08] <harmental> back then i couldnt get my box to automatically at startup....
[04:08] <makuseru> where are KDM themes located?
[04:09] <AFaith> dettoaltrimenti: why don't you try with k3b ?
[04:09] <AFaith> can anyone else help me with a little problem with nexuiz ?
[04:09] <AFaith> it runs so slowly :(
[04:09] <harmental> then i tried disabling the ethernet connection because i read somewhere that there may be conflicts when using a pcmcia card...
[04:10] <AFaith> when i'm not fireing (or other opponents) it runs smoothly, almost 100fps, but when fires are shot ... it shows me as little as 2-3 fps
[04:10] <harmental> then i tried reconfiguring from scratch my wifi connection....
[04:10] <frojnd> hm, how can I find alsa-plugins folder?? I was trying to install bluetooth headset by this tutorial: http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html
[04:10] <harmental> and here i am....
[04:11] <dthacker> harmental: ok, that's a lot of upgrade. :)  Can you ping your router/firewall?  If you can, can you ping something on the internet?
[04:11] <dettoaltrimenti> AFaith- exact same error with k3b
[04:12] <AFaith> dettoaltrimenti: is your dvd-rw drive working
[04:12] <AFaith> no one can help me ?
[04:12] <AFaith> please, i'm "desperate" :P
[04:13] <dettoaltrimenti> it reads dvds fine, and it has never had a problem before burning them
[04:13] <m1sha> I can't log into kde, any ideas?
[04:14] <harmental> dthacker: i would have to reboot my box to reproduce the error.....
[04:14] <harmental> how can i ping the internet and my router?
[04:15] <dthacker> harmental: do you know the ip address of your router?
[04:15] <m1sha> harmental $ping <IP_ADDRESS> (the default for most routers)
[04:16] <brandon> i am having problems with beryl can anyone help?
[04:17] <m1sha> brandon if you explain what your problems are
[04:17] <brandon> whenever i go into it the screen turns white
[04:17] <guille> anyone can close windows making right click on the application in the task bar->close in the menu?
[04:17] <brandon> i am on feisty fawn latest version with amd 64
[04:17] <makuseru> where are KDM themes located?
[04:18] <brandon> graphics are ati radeon xpress 200
[04:18] <makuseru> you need fglrx
[04:18] <dthacker> makuseru: themes.kde.org
[04:18] <makuseru> no
[04:18] <makuseru> not a website
[04:18] <makuseru> i mean the folder
[04:19] <brandon> i need  fglrx
[04:19] <makuseru> yes
[04:19] <brandon> where do i get it?
[04:19] <makuseru> google
[04:19] <m1sha> so can anyone help me get kde to start?
[04:19] <makuseru> !fglrx
[04:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:19] <vitto> m1sha
[04:20] <dthacker> m1sha: you need to give us more info, please?
[04:20] <LjL> nazi_, change your nickname please
[04:21] <m1sha> dthacker sure, from the standard login screen if I try to log in any account screen goes black and it bring me back to the start, I can only get in if I boot single user mode and login as root
[04:21] <makuseru> LjL: wtf. why would someone have that name
[04:21] <LjL> which is why i told him to change it
[04:21] <guille> hehe
[04:21] <makuseru> any mods in here?
[04:22] <Jucato> makuseru: you were talking to one
[04:22] <dthacker> m1sha: sounds like kde can't start session.  Any recent changes?
[04:22] <makuseru> is he?
[04:22] <makuseru> i didnt know
[04:23] <makuseru> the only person i know around here as a mod is you Jucato
[04:23] <Jucato> lol
[04:23] <makuseru> since your always on
[04:23] <dthacker> kubunu mods speak softly and carry a big K
[04:23] <makuseru> Jucato: is dr_willis a mod?
[04:23] <hyper_ch> dthacker: like Kjucato
[04:24] <dthacker> hehe
[04:24] <Jucato> hyper_ch: that'd be JuKato :)
[04:24] <Jucato> makuseru: nope
[04:24] <makuseru> hes just someone who hels ALOT?
[04:24] <makuseru> ha
[04:24] <Jucato> yeah, he "hels" a lot :)
[04:24] <makuseru> oops
[04:24] <makuseru> helps*
[04:24] <Dr_willis> heck for 2 mo i was rarely in here.
[04:24] <hyper_ch> ;)
[04:25] <makuseru> everytime im in here you are
[04:25] <makuseru> helping people
[04:25] <makuseru> speaking of help, where are KDM themes located?
[04:25] <Jucato> makuseru: /usr/share/apps/kdm
[04:25] <Dr_willis> use the locate command - thats how i always got ot find them
[04:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:25] <makuseru> thanks Jucato
[04:25] <Jucato> from the top of my head, so might be a bit wrong
[04:25] <m1sha> dthacker I can't think of any, I tried deleting my .kde to see if it was a bad setting as well
[04:25] <Jucato> but definitely in /usr :)
[04:25] <dthacker> ooo, I was wrong. on the net themes are at kde-look.org
[04:25] <aka_dennister> Dr_willis: good morning! just the person i was hoping to see :)
[04:26] <Jucato> Dr_willis: you have a patient :)
[04:27] <aka_dennister> still trying to figure out why flash sound works as this new user, and why it simply wont as my normal user
[04:27] <aka_dennister> Jucato: yes, me! lol
[04:27] <makuseru> well Jucato and Dr_wills: you have good days, im off to spread the word of the Buntu
[04:27] <hyper_ch> aka_dennister: maybe flash doesn't like your normal user...
[04:28] <Jucato> makuseru: the source be with you
[04:28] <dthacker> m1sha: is .kde re-created on login?  That might be contributing.  I think you're past my knowledge, though
[04:28] <makuseru> hahaha
[04:28] <aka_dennister> haha...it liked it at first...guess i offended it somehow and it will only date me in disguise now\
[04:28] <dthacker> me asks for help in helping m1sha
[04:28] <m1sha> dthacker AFIAK it is. thanks anyway
[04:30] <c1|freaky> someone here familiar with KDevelop? I'm wondering if theres any "simple template" where you just get the general structure of a program created (like the Hello World template but without the Hello World code? (i know i could just delete that code but maybe theres some "optimized" template just for general project creation without unneccessary code prewritten?
[04:31] <aka_dennister> any ideas ppl? Ive already made sure my .mozilla directory is identical in both home directories
[04:31] <m1sha> aka_dennister maybe you are running some app that takes over sound?
[04:31] <mweijts> !beryl
[04:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:32] <m1sha> and can someone please help me out here? running irc/msn/web in a terminal is fun for a while but it's not great long term
[04:32] <aka_dennister> possibly...but that would be really hard to determine...I running the same apps in this user, and they give up the sound
[04:33] <aka_dennister> i scared the doc away...:( 2nd time this week ive been determined to be a difficult patient :(
[04:33] <aka_dennister> lol
[04:38] <BluesKaj> aka_dennister, doctors need difficult patients , even if it's just to remind them that they aren't gods :)
[04:38] <aka_dennister> hey BluesKaj :) gm
[04:39] <BluesKaj> 'morning dennister :)
[04:39] <aka_dennister> somehow i don think they see it that way...
[04:41] <aka_dennister> very iiiinnnnnnnnnnteresting...:)
[04:41] <Graham> Hey, newbie question here, where does Wine store icons?
[04:41] <BluesKaj> most medical docs are warped in some manner :)
[04:42] <stdin> Graham: in ~/.local/share/icons/ I should think
[04:42] <BluesKaj> in the wine store .. ;)
[04:42] <aka_dennister> yes, but I said ancel all my appointments"to the eye institute...just now i was making a joke about Dr_willis
[04:43] <Graham> stdin: You're a good man.
[04:43] <Graham> Thanks.
[04:43] <stdin> :)
[04:43] <aka_dennister> ahhhhhhh, but maybe stdin can help me :)
[04:43] <aka_dennister> good morning!
[04:43] <stdin> afternoon :)
[04:43] <Jucato> where's genii when you need caffeine!?! :(
[04:43] <stdin> damn, now I want coffee
[04:44] <aka_dennister> so genii is still coming around? i thought hed hidden himself for good
[04:44] <Jucato> haven't seen him for a few days now
[04:44] <Jucato> but then again I've been busy myself...
[04:45] <aka_dennister> well, he was literally hanging up on me back when i was still working with him at the office
[04:45] <stdin> hmm, even SeenServ hasn't seen him
[04:45] <aka_dennister> but i quit that farce of a nonprofit, so don care anymore
[04:46] <BluesKaj> genii comes around about once/wk it seems
[04:46] <BluesKaj> farce of a nonprofit ?
[04:47] <aka_dennister> here my problem de jour: the only thing that has gotten me any closer to getting sound back in my flash movies (youtube/others) was Dr_willis' suggestion to see if it worked as a new user; it did, all the same apps have working sound
[04:47] <BluesKaj> ohoh, the permissions tangle :(
[04:48] <aka_dennister> however, i can for the life of me find out what different with this new user and my old regular user
[04:48] <stdin> aka_dennister: hmm, maybe try changing ' FIREFOX_DSP="none" ' to ' FIREFOX_DSP="artsdsp" ' in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (or put it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc)
[04:49] <aka_dennister> but the interesting symptom ive just discovered is that, with this new user, firefox doesn let go of the sound until i close firefox
[04:49] <aka_dennister> stdin: thx; will try that
[04:52] <aka_dennister> certainly i done a locate before, and the only firefoxrc file in the whole pc had the dsp to none
[04:52] <stdin> that's the default, yes
[04:52] <stdin> change it to artsdsp
[04:56] <aka_dennister> ok, flash sound is still working after the change for this user...will have to log out to see if it helps with the main user...be right back
[05:06] <thotel2> hello
[05:07] <thotel2> ho hase never uses VirtualBox on feisty
[05:07] <thotel2> ?
[05:07] <stdin> !it
[05:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:12] <busfahrer> I see lots of KDE packages have been updated, any special reason?
[05:13] <stdin> are you using the 3.5.7 packages?
[05:13] <busfahrer> no, regular stuff
[05:13] <stdin> hmm, take a look at the changelogs then
[05:14] <stdin> aptitude changelog [package]
[05:15] <dennister> stdin: nope, didn't work...have tried all sorts of things with /etc/firefox/firefoxrc now
[05:16] <stdin> hmm, that's strange
[05:16] <dennister> certainly the speakers and sound card does *not* get released if firefox is still running and I try to use the sound with another multimedia app
[05:18] <stdin> the only thing I can think of is to make sure you are in the same groups as the new user
[05:18] <dennister> stdin: way ahead of you; did that before i even came into the chartoom
[05:18] <dennister> *chatroom
[05:19] <Qoole> hi there, I have setup an LTSP server (Kraken). The server logs on to our domain successfully as do the LTSP clients. could anyone talk me through setting up pam_mount to automatically mount home dirs on login?
[05:20] <dennister> perhaps i should just copy a lot of stuff from my normal user's home to the new user
[05:20] <stdin> dennister: that's probably the quickest fix
[05:21] <dennister> yeah...there's only so much someone should really be expected to troubleshoot
[05:23] <blackflag> I have a DNS problem. I have another network with vpn connected. In my lan there is a DNS forwarding to the DNS Server in another LAN
[05:23] <blackflag> I can do nslookup dig all is running fine. its .local tld
[05:24] <busfahrer> When I remove an *unused* SATA controller from my system, I only got a blank screen with a blinking cursor instead of GRUB. Any ideas?
[05:24] <blackflag> but when I try to reach the server with a browser then the .local server isnt reachabel. How could this be?
[05:25] <blackflag> I tried firefox and konqueror
[05:25] <blackflag> Can someone help?
[05:25] <blackflag> I can get the webserver there with IP but not via DNS
[05:26] <balaji> hi friends
[05:27] <balaji> how to mount a 80 Gb hardrive
[05:27] <balaji> it never hows up during fdisk -l
[05:27] <balaji> ?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> is it formated to ext ?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> or ntfs
[05:29] <balaji> no how to do that?
[05:29] <balaji> its not formatted
[05:29] <BluesKaj> if there's no format , it won't be seen
[05:29] <balaji> i am new to linux and not a computers student
[05:29] <Castor_Troy> balaji mount -t auto /dev/sdx /mount_point
[05:30] <Castor_Troy> balaji under root
[05:31] <soon> What do I need to convert wmv files to e.g mpeg4 ???
[05:31] <soon> I've installed the Others / Restricted formats
[05:31] <soon> Kaffeine want play the wmv (neither will mplayer)
[05:31] <soon> want = wont
 the device is unformatted and i want to create some partition in it supporting files for linux and windows
[05:32] <BluesKaj> soon, devede, tovid, and I think avidemux
[05:32] <Castor_Troy> balaji gparted can help you
[05:33] <soon> thanks
[05:33] <balaji> its giving error command not found
[05:34] <Qoole> does anyone have a tutorial for setting up pam_mount?
[05:35] <Castor_Troy> balaji sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:35] <BluesKaj> soon , for playback in kaffeine/settings/player engine/   ..set it to kaffeine-xine
[05:38] <BluesKaj> soon, of course that's asuming you have the xine-engine installed
[05:39] <Derminator> Hello @ all
[05:40] <defrysk> hi
my net is slow so please wait
[05:41] <Derminator> Can somebody help me? I dont have sound at enemy Territorry!
[05:42] <BluesKaj> get on allied tewrritory then
[05:42] <BluesKaj> <---couldn't resist that one , sorry Derminator
[05:42] <balaji> yes i've done it
[05:42] <balaji> no u may please give me the steps
[05:42] <balaji> now
[05:43] <BluesKaj> are you running gparted balaji ?
[05:43] <Qoole> ok, i've setup pam_mount according to: http://schools.coe.ru.ac.za/wiki/ConfigureLinuxDomainClient now when i try to log onto an LTSP client it boots me off.
[05:43] <Qoole> no errors in log
[05:43] <balaji> its giving some error again
[05:43] <Qoole> all successes
[05:44] <balaji> give me the full command
[05:45] <Castor_Troy> balaji full command: man gparted
[05:45] <meloso> Hi does some one know what the extension .rpm stands for and how can i execute?
[05:45] <balaji> iam using kubuntu so would this help?
[05:45] <BluesKaj> balaji, you have to download GParted and burn it to a cd , then make sure you can boot into it to examine your hard drives to do the proper formatting
[05:45] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[05:45] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:47] <defrysk> meloso, for what package ?
[05:47] <balaji> iam running Gparted but it doesent show up sdb partitions?
[05:47] <Derminator> If somebody can help me by no sound at Enemy Territorry, please write me privat
[05:47] <meloso> well im trying to install java in my kubuntu and i unpacked the file but now its says is a rpm file
[05:48] <balaji> yeah it now shows /dev/sdb now what should i do?
[05:48] <defrysk> meloso, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[05:48] <defrysk> meloso, thats all
[05:48] <Castor_Troy> balaji so what do you want?
[05:49] <balaji> now how to partition this drive and set the labels etc?
[05:49] <Castor_Troy> balaji whats file system do you have in that partition?
[05:50] <balaji> currently its unalloacated
[05:51] <Castor_Troy> balaji ok..create partiton
[05:52] <Castor_Troy> balaji and choose filesystem
[05:52] <balaji> its asking for the disklabel so what should i put?
[05:52] <Castor_Troy> balaji what do you want )) it's not principal ))
[05:53] <meloso1> where can i find that sun java6-plugin?
[05:53] <balaji> ??
[05:54] <balaji> its showing parttion as unallocated
[05:54] <balaji> filesystem as unallocated
[05:54] <balaji> size as 74.53 gib
[05:55] <meloso1> where can i find that sun java6-plugin?
[05:55] <Castor_Troy> balaji did you push Apply?
[05:56] <BluesKaj> yeah the checmark in toolbar , balaji
[05:56] <Kartibok> Hi all - if I do a back up of the home folder will it also keep my internet favorites and email settings?
[05:56] <BluesKaj> err checkmark
[05:57] <balaji> there is only one option highlighted that is new
[05:57] <balaji> and it asks me to create a file label for device
[05:57] <meloso1> Hi, i need to install java into kubunto how can i do taht?
[05:57] <Castor_Troy> balaji enter any label
[05:57] <balaji> the options given are ms-dos amiga dvh loop etc
[05:58] <Castor_Troy> balaji and go Edit -> Apply
[05:58] <balaji> for ms-dos it gives error
[05:58] <mhb> hi all kubuntu lovers and friends
[05:59] <meloso1> Hi does anyone know where can i get the java plug in so i can run java applets?
[05:59] <mhb> I have a special question for you all - how many of you do use the "Add/Remove Programs" application?
[05:59] <balaji> any label it gives error while setting labe
[06:00] <defrysk> meloso1 i already told you what to install
[06:00] <defrysk> meloso, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[06:00] <meloso1> it told it cannt find it ?
[06:00] <Castor_Troy> balaji in label field enter 1
[06:00] <vincent> hi
[06:00] <defrysk> !repos > meloso1
[06:00] <Castor_Troy> balaji press ok and push Apply
[06:00] <meloso1> it says it coulnt find package sun-java6-plug in
[06:01] <vincent> i cant find any mic/audio function in Kopete
[06:01] <vincent> does it have any?
[06:01] <defrysk> meloso, you have to set up your repositories
[06:01] <meloso1> how do i  do that .. SOrry im new to this stuff
[06:01] <defrysk> meloso1, if I am correct you got a private message from ubotu with some explantion
[06:02] <balaji> but it gives only options for label no manual entry possible?
[06:02] <VincentMX> hi deFrysk
[06:02] <meloso1> yeah i got it going to chek it out thanks
[06:02] <defrysk> moloso1good luck
[06:02] <Castor_Troy> blyaaa
[06:03] <lucky_lucas> hi I'm looking for links to manage a usb headset on kubuntu, does anyone has a clue ?
[06:04] <balaji> hey its not formatted in first place
[06:04] <Castor_Troy> balaji whats' mean first place/
[06:04] <Castor_Troy> ?
[06:05] <Castor_Troy> anybody know russian language?
[06:05] <lucky_lucas> I'm using the asoundconf-gtk frontend, but i would like to have a more convenient and user capable way
[06:05] <lucky_lucas> Castor_Troy: no
[06:05] <balaji> i mean its not formatted
[06:05] <netgooroo> whats the story with the new distro???  people likin it..?
[06:05] <balaji> to FAT or Ntfs
[06:06] <Castor_Troy> balaji do you need ntfs?
[06:06] <Castor_Troy> balaji for ms windows?
[06:06] <netgooroo> ??
[06:06] <balaji> yes
[06:07] <sivaji> balaji where u r from ?
[06:07] <balaji> india
[06:07] <Funkah> India
[06:07] <Castor_Troy> balaji easy way: boot from ms windows disk, install this s...t, and after install kubuntu
[06:07] <CaBlGuY> now..  anyone??
[06:08] <Castor_Troy> balaji under windows you can create partitions for linux
[06:08] <CaBlGuY> !Java5-jre
[06:09] <BluesKaj> yes balaji , it's always best to install windows first, to preserve it's bootloader
[06:09] <sivaji> !shipit
[06:09] <LjL> actually, it's to preserve *ubuntu's* bootloader =)
[06:10] <sivaji> what happen to ubout
[06:10] <LjL> sivaji, CaBlGuY, pm the bot. which is unavailable right now, anyway.
[06:10] <CaBlGuY> yea..  what happened to him??
[06:10] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[06:11] <Castor_Troy> !ubout restart
[06:11] <Castor_Troy> ))
[06:11] <CaBlGuY> ok, how do I go about installing Java??
[06:11] <CaBlGuY> whats the command?
[06:11] <defrysk> CaBlGuY,  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[06:11] <CaBlGuY> K..
[06:11] <sivaji> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:12] <CaBlGuY> K, didn't work..  says couldn't find the package..
[06:13] <defrysk> !repos > CaBlGuY
[06:13] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, set up your repos check ubotu's message
[06:13] <Castor_Troy> and no russian man here? )) i can't believe
[06:14] <Funkah> Why d'ya wanna talk to someone russian?
[06:14] <defrysk> !ru
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> defrysk, I would if Ubotu was up..  :p
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> !Ubotu
[06:15] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:15] <sivaji> ubotu  is down
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> word..  ;)
[06:15] <word> -_-
[06:15] <otero> HI
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:15] <ardchoille> CaBlGuY: ubotu is connected, he just isn't in this channel.
[06:15] <defrysk> word, word.
[06:15] <otero> Im upgrading to fiesty fawn, what do i put in the MDADM dialog box?
[06:15] <word> >.>
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> word word, n stuff..
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> :p
[06:17] <cleit0n> how i upgrade ubuntu .. i install kubuntu  5 2.6.10-5-386
 i was doing my engg project in linux
[06:17] <sivaji> balaji which college what is u r project
[06:18] <pyrotix> how risky is upgrading edgy to feisty?
[06:18] <balaji> now thts over s i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb
[06:19] <defrysk> pyrotix, if you have a proper backup , none
[06:19] <balaji> father Conceicao rodrigues institute of technology
[06:19] <eXistenz> Is it recommended to upgrade to KDE 3.5.7 ?
[06:19] <cleit0n> balaji: i try this..
 u from which place?
 wat?
[06:20] <defrysk> eXistenz, not specificly, as in there are no security fixes for the packages when needed
[06:20] <pyrotix> defrysk: but restoring proper backups is time consuming and maybe something I don't want to do if failure is likely. Is it as failure prone as dapper -> edgy
[06:20] <sivaji> balaji i am from chennai but u didnt reply for me
[06:20] <pyrotix> ?
[06:20] <defrysk> eXistenz, but if you like bleeding , go for it :)
[06:20] <balaji> i have replied just see on the screen
[06:21] <eXistenz> defrysk: How much memory do you use?
[06:21] <defrysk> eXistenz, I have 80% free at the moment
[06:21] <sivaji> balaji which college what is u r project
[06:21] <LjL> !offtopic
Father Conceicao rodrigues institute of technology
[06:22] <defrysk> pyrotix, there is always chance of failure
[06:22] <eXistenz> defrysk: Do you have 1GB?
[06:22] <defrysk> eXistenz, 2
[06:22] <defrysk> no one
[06:22] <defrysk> you are correct
[06:23] <eXistenz> defrysk: I have 512MB. Maybe I have to get another 512MB
[06:23] <defrysk> 80% is cached tho
?
[06:23] <defrysk> so it looks like its using 100%
[06:23] <defrysk> but in reality its 20 %
[06:24] <cleit0n> how i update ubuntu here? i have edgy
[06:24] <otero> software update
[06:24] <busfahrer> When I remove an *unused* SATA controller from my system, I only got a blank screen with a blinking cursor instead of GRUB. Any ideas?
 ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:24] <kain> hello
[06:25] <kain> i need help getting a dell 1390 to work on 7.4
[06:25] <kain> i have tried ubuntu opensuse freedsb
[06:25] <cleit0n> balaji: kubuntu
[06:25] <kain> i just want to be able to go wireless with linux
[06:25] <kain> and i have followed faqs
[06:25] <kain> just tried one for kubuntu that looked promising
[06:25] <cleit0n> balaji: make diference?
[06:25] <kain> i'm like one stop away
[06:25] <kain> is someone avail/willing to help?
[06:26] <cleit0n> balaji: u have source.list to do?
[06:26] <eXistenz> defrysk: How would you install skype on feisty? skype.com package?
[06:26] <balaji> ok go to adept and enble edgy repos<if diabled> and then click ftch upgrades it should show up some no of upgrades just aplly
[06:26] <ardchoille> balaji: Mixing repos is a bad thing to do.
[06:27] <busfahrer> eXistenz: Just use the .deb from skype.com and add a Menu entry, done.
[06:27] <balaji> iam not asking him to mix repo it should be present in the /etc/sources.list i suppose
[06:27] <kain> can i just drop the driver in the right dir and not go through the terminal or anything?
[06:28] <jaevel> anyone around that can help with my nvidia driver? despite everything i have read and several suggestions from here, i still am unable to get the stupid driver running?
[06:28] <felipe> ardchoille's
[06:28] <ardchoille> Great, now my repos smell like fish
[06:28] <ardchoille> :)
[06:28] <felipe> :)
[06:30] <balaji> <sivaji > do u have any soln to my problem?
[06:30] <sivaji> i didnt see
[06:31] <balaji>  i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb
[06:32] <sivaji> go to bios enable boot from usb option
[06:32] <balaji> hardrive size =80 gb
[06:32] <balaji> but its not formatted in any form
[06:33] <balaji> do u have a yahoo id?
[06:33] <sivaji> have u install ubuntu or not
[06:33] <balaji> no its not formatted
[06:33] <Kartibok> kain:  are you still having trouble with your usb wireless
[06:33] <sivaji> ya<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:34] <kain> not usb
[06:34] <kain> internal dell broadcom 1390
[06:34] <kain> i've tried ubutnu opensuse freedsb looked at tons of faqs
[06:34] <Kartibok> has your OS picked it up automatically?
[06:35] <sivaji> balaji are u there
[06:35] <BluesKaj> balaji, how much room on the HDD are you going to use for each OS ?
[06:35] <balaji> on USB?
[06:35] <balaji> yes
[06:35] <kain> and tried kubutnu 7.4 because this looked easy http://www.linux-geek.org/index.php/2007/04/22/dell-1390-native-linux-driver-how-to-updated
[06:36] <kain> nope
[06:36] <kain> seems it has lots of issues with linux
[06:36] <Kartibok> there is a website http://linuxwireless.org/ try it and look for your card
[06:37] <kain> ok
[06:37] <kain> i know i need the bcm43xx
[06:37] <kain> and i need the driver which i have the windows vers but i did get one from that tutorial that is a ko
[06:37] <kain> followed all the steps
[06:38] <balaji> sivaji can u come into ur yahoo messenger?
[06:38] <Kartibok> I must admit mine (usb) worked straight from a clean install. I just gave it a fixed IP address and added the SSID name and password
[06:38] <kain> i have problems at this step in his tutorial (the last) And finally, we replace the bcm43xx driver provided by the Ubuntu kernel with the driver ported by me, from the 2.6.21-rc7 kernel.
[06:38] <kain> says it can't find the tarball
[06:38] <kain> and it seems to me i have the path and filename right
[06:38] <sivaji> balaji i dont hava ymessenger using kopete
[06:39] <kain> i used the packet inject vers and changed the command to match
[06:39] <balaji> yeah its ok but ur yahoo server is enabled on it no?
[06:40] <sivaji> tell me u r yahoo username
[06:40] <sivaji> balaji tell me u r yahoo username
[06:40] <balaji><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:41] <kain> Kartibok:?
[06:41] <Kartibok> sorry was away
[06:42] <balaji> sivaji:have u added?
[06:42] <Kartibok> kain: did the fresh install find the device ?
[06:43] <sivaji> ya i added still i show u r offline
[06:45] <balaji> send me a message
[06:45] <kain> i'm stuck on the last step
[06:45] <kain> And finally, we replace the bcm43xx driver provided by the Ubuntu kernel with the driver ported by me, from the 2.6.21-rc7 kernel.
[06:45] <kain> i try it and it says it can't find the file
[06:46] <kain> i've tried changing the path and making sure it works
[06:46] <kain> after i did the first part my wireless light came on byt no connection
[06:46] <kain> i need to get this driver installed somehow bcm43xx.ko
[06:47] <Kartibok> have you tried the iwconfig command to see if it sees any network?
?
[06:48] <sivaji> balaji i cant "sivaji_2009" this is my username u try send a message to me
[06:49] <balaji> sivaji did u get it?
[06:49] <sivaji> no
[06:50] <sivaji> how to configure kopete it show everyone offline but they are online
[06:51] <balaji> try gaim
[06:51] <sercik> do you use msn protocol??
[06:51] <kain> Kartibok yes i have and it doesn't
[06:51] <kain> the wireless light is on
[06:52] <Kartibok> so you have link quality 0/100 and signal level 0/100
[06:52] <sivaji> sercik are u asking me
[06:52] <kain> all i have when i run iwlist scan is lo and eth0 and they don't support scanning
[06:52] <Kartibok> have you tried sudo ifup eth0 (or what ever yours is?)
[06:52] <stdin> kain: does "iwlist scan" show anything?
[06:53] <stdin> ah :p
[06:53] <kain> sudo modprobe bcm43xx gives me: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko': No such file or directory
[06:53] <napper_> hi :)
[06:53] <Minataku> Hm
[06:53] <sivaji> stdin help me
[06:53] <Minataku>  12:51:00 up 76 days,  8:19,  6 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00
[06:54] <sivaji> tell me how to configure kopete it show everyone offline but they are online
[06:54] <stdin> kain: did you download http://linux-geek.org/files/bcm43xx.tar.bz2 and extract it to "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/" like the page says?
[06:54] <stdin> sivaji: huh? you mean so you're invisible ?
[06:55] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0
[06:55] <kain> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[06:55] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0
[06:55] <kain> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[06:55] <napper_> i searching an good MP3 and OGG player ... i tried xmms and amarok but both didn match what i looking for ... i port my system from windows and looking for a player like foobar2000
[06:55] <stdin> sivaji: or it's like they all are
[06:55] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/home$ sudo ifup eth0
[06:55] <kain> oops sorry
[06:55] <sivaji> i cant get connect to other
[06:55] <kain> stdin i did the inject version
[06:56] <kain> i have a copy in /home/kain and one on the Desktop
[06:56] <stdin> sivaji: hmm, check your router/firewall settings maybe
[06:56] <kain> plus i already extracted the ko
[06:56] <kain> to both those places
[06:56] <stdin> kain: yeah, but you have to copy it to "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/"
[06:56] <kain> do i have to make that dir by hand?
[06:56] <c1|freaky> hi all. is someone familiar with Kontact? I keep getting a error message that "the server doesnt support TLS" i probably have set up some groupware server or something but i cant find something where i can remove that server thing :\
[06:57] <BluesKaj> napper , amarok should fill your needs if foobar2k is your fav...amarok just has to be configged to your taste is all
[06:57] <stdin> kain: the dir is already there, just copy the .ko file there
[06:58] <kain> it's not on my install
[06:58] <sivaji> when i tried to send mail using kmail i got this "Please create an account for sending and try again" i dont know where i am suppose to create a accoung
[06:58] <sivaji> when i tried to send mail using kmail i got this "Please create an account for sending and try again" i dont know where i am suppose to create a account
[06:59] <balaji> sivaji:new to ubuntu?
[06:59] <stdin> kain: it should be, try "sudo mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/ " then copy the .ko file there
[06:59] <sivaji> yes
[06:59] <Kartibok> c1|freaky: You just need to untick the TLS in your SMTP tab
[06:59] <balaji> what do u do?
[06:59] <sivaji> started only two months before
[06:59] <napper_> ok i will give amarok a second chance ... thank u
[06:59] <sivaji> engg 2nd year cse
[07:00] <napper_> and linux have never been so easy before i tried kubuntu
[07:00] <sivaji> balaji what is ur prob
[07:00] <stdin> amarok is the best thing since sliced bread
[07:01] <balaji>  i want to install ubuntu in a usb hardrive that i own and have two partions in it for linux and windows i use a laptop so i would install windows on it and when required would boot from usb
[07:01] <BluesKaj> ama-roks!
[07:01] <napper_> :D
[07:01] <kain> stdin ok the folder is there
[07:01] <kain> but i try to paste i get access denied
[07:02] <kain> the ko is on my desktop
[07:02] <napper_> adept manager is sooooo cool
[07:02] <Peaker_> gutsy gibbon broke hibernation didn't it?
[07:02] <Peaker_> napper_: except when there are any errors of any kind :)
[07:02] <Peaker_> then it totally sucks
[07:02] <Peaker_> heh
[07:02] <Kartibok> Open Kontact >Settings>Kmail>Accounts>Sending>Modify your account>Security Tab> Encryption> set to none
[07:02] <stdin> kain: try "sudo cp ~/Desktop/bcm43xx.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/"
[07:03] <Kartibok> c1|freaky: Open Kontact >Settings>Kmail>Accounts>Sending>Modify your account>Security Tab> Encryption> set to none
[07:03] <nahemoth> Is it possible to use Opera in Kubuntu
[07:03] <stdin> !opera
[07:03] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:03] <kain> ok i do it hit enter and i get: kain@kain-laptop:/home$
[07:03] <stanley> hi guys
[07:03] <kain> :)
[07:04] <kain> YOU ROCK
[07:04] <kain> let me reboot bro
[07:04] <stanley> i am trying to install/configure my dial up modem
[07:04] <santoD> hey
[07:04] <stanley> i have used to scanmodem tool
[07:04] <stanley> after running it i think i've gotten my information
[07:04] <santoD> knetworkmanager doesn't show any wlans?
[07:04] <sivaji> balaji i cant get u what u want to do now
[07:04] <stanley> but now i don't know what to do next
[07:04] <stanley> i don't kno how to install the driver
[07:04] <stanley> plz...someone help
[07:05] <stdin> !modem
[07:05] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:05] <sivaji> balaji
[07:05] <sivaji> balaji  do u hava ubuntu livecd
[07:07] <sivaji>  balaji are u there
[07:07] <hsystem-x> lol
[07:08] <balaji> yeah i have both 6.06 and 7.04
[07:08] <sivaji> then what start installation with 7.04 in usb
[07:09] <gary_> how do i get beryl to launch at kubuntu startup ?
[07:09] <balaji> yes but the usb is not formatted in ntfs or ext3
[07:09] <balaji> i want to create partions first
[07:10] <hsystem-x> gary: http://www.beryl-project.org/ , search there, in the instruction they specify HOW.
[07:10] <sivaji> first insert 7.04 live cd boot from cd u will have install icon that time u format with ext2
[07:10] <hsystem-x> select * ubuntu distro*
[07:11] <napper_> ah cool ... amarok plays titles out of the network :)
[07:11] <Kartibok> Quick one, where would I install something like Real Player as I am unsure about the file system
[07:11] <balaji> ok and for the windows partions?
[07:11] <kain> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! :)
[07:11] <kain> i have wireless now just can't use it cuz i need the key but you rock and so does Kubutnu Linux!
[07:12] <sivaji> u r system is already having some os or not
[07:12] <stdin> napper_: yeah, I'm playing my music from my server (down stairs) wirelessly :)
[07:12] <balaji> yes
[07:12] <balaji> but usb doesnt
[07:12] <Kartibok> Quick one, where would I install something like Real Player as I am unsure about the file system
[07:13] <sivaji> u have xp installed on u r harddisk is it
[07:13] <kain> sdin you are the man
 just download the dpkg package from real player site
[07:13] <kain> i tried ubutnu opensuse and freedsb with no luck
[07:13] <stdin> Kartibok: the installers usually give sane defaults, like /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin (for system wide installs)
[07:13] <balaji> and if u want u van keep it in /usr/bin
[07:14] <napper_> stdin: how can i sort my collection by directory structure?
[07:14] <Kartibok> I downloaded the realplay 10 .bin to my desktop should I have downloaded another file?
[07:14] <kain> how could i crack my work's wep key?
[07:14] <sivaji> which os u have already and where u have install it , in u harddisk or usb
[07:14] <kain> so i don't have to wait for it on tues
[07:14] <sivaji> balaji which os u have already and where u have install it , in u harddisk or usb
[07:15] <balaji> kubuntu 6.10 in harddrive which i want to remove
[07:15] <ownsnofn> efef
[07:15] <Kartibok> stdin: I will go for /usr/bin thanks
[07:15] <stdin> napper_: you mean rather than by artest/album?
[07:15] <stdin> kain: you'll have to search google for that one
[07:16] <ownsnofn> why doesn't knetworkmanager work any more? it doesn't show any wlans
[07:17] <napper_> stdin: it should have the directory structure how it on my disc
[07:18] <sivaji> balaji first install windows ,when u put u r windows boot disk it will show all partition u delete which ever u dont want and later install kubuntu7.04
[07:18] <stdin> napper_: you just open the Files tab, on the left
[07:18] <balaji> ok thanks
[07:18] <Castor_Troy> balaji as same as i told you  - install windows first
[07:18] <sivaji> balaji where u r from
[07:19] <balaji> mumbai
[07:19] <sivaji> how long u r using kubuntu
[07:19] <balaji> 10 months or so
[07:19] <sivaji> balaji how long u r using kubuntu
[07:20] <hyper_ch> hiho, how does one get the kernel source?
[07:20] <balaji> 10 mnths
[07:21] <stdin> hyper_ch: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.20 (if you're on 2.6.20)
[07:21] <hyper_ch> stdin: thx :)
[07:22] <hyper_ch> so it's  sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[07:22] <stdin> not quite, no
[07:22] <napper_> stdin: ah! cool! now amarok is MY PLAYER :D
[07:22] <napper_> thanks so much
[07:22] <stdin> `uname -r` would be "2.6.20-15-generic"
[07:23] <stdin> napper_: no problem, amarok is (IMO) the best player in linux
[07:23] <hyper_ch> stdin: yes, you're right :)
[07:24] <balaji> thanks everybody bye
[07:24] <napper_> i tried linux a few times ... at most fedora and othe redhat clones .. but the communities never where so cool like this and never direct help me ...
[07:25] <stdin> yeah, we rule :)
[07:25] <napper_> YES
[07:25] <hyper_ch> ;)
[07:25] <stdin> !botsnack
[07:26] <sivaji>  napper_ that is a special feature  in kubuntu
[07:26] <hsystem-x> is a bot what do you expect lol ^^
[07:26] <napper_> (k)ubuntu is so cool and simple
[07:26] <ubuntu> Bonjour
[07:26] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:26] <ubuntu> Hi
[07:26] <napper_> a cool community is a feature? :D
[07:26] <sivaji> exactly simply super kubuntu
[07:26] <Solust> I have a problem trying to install wlassistant.  When I copy the config file into the terminal I get this:
[07:27] <Solust> solust@solust-desktop:~/wlassistant-0.5.7$ '/home/solust/wlassistant-0.5.7/configure'
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for Python               :  -e /usr/bin/python
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for SCons                :  -e not found, will use mini distribution.
[07:27] <Solust> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for kde-config           :  kde-config was found as /usr/bin/kde-config
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for kde version          :  3.5.6
[07:27] <Solust> Checking for the qt library       :  qt was not found
[07:27] <stdin> hello ubuntu, if you want french help, join #kubuntu-fr
[07:27] <Solust> Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options
[07:27] <Solust> Can anyone help please?
[07:27] <da> hi
[07:27] <sivaji> Solust use pastebin
[07:27] <Jucato> !paste | Solust
[07:27] <ubuntu> Thanks ^
[07:27] <ubotu> Solust: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <dr_willis> sounds like you need to isntall several developer packages
[07:28] <stanley> hi guys
[07:28] <dawhim> hi
[07:28] <stanley> i am having a serious problem installing my internal modem
[07:28] <napper_> thanks a last time ... so the next time i have a questin i will join again :D but now i will enjoy my music :D
[07:29] <stdin> Solust: try "sudo apt-get build-dep wlassistant" first
[07:29] <napper_> bye
[07:29] <napper_> :)
[07:29] <BluesKaj> cool napper
[07:29] <stdin> bye :)
[07:29] <stanley> the sl-modem-daemon-modules package states it has a conflict in adept
[07:29] <stanley> what can i do to fix this?
[07:30] <stanley> is anyone familiar with dial up modems?
[07:31] <hsystem-x> stanley, if it is a conexant, there is no free drivers for it.
[07:31] <stdin> stanley: try "sl-modem-daemon" not "sl-modem-modules"
[07:31] <stanley> yea i installed sl-modem-daemon, but sl-modem-modules is int he package relationshp stdin
[07:34] <HymnToLife> stanley, are you at least sure you need slmodem ?
[07:34] <stanley> that's what i read on the ubuntu documentation
[07:34] <stanley> is there another way to configure my modem hymntolife??
[07:35] <HymnToLife> depends what kind of modem it is
[07:35] <HymnToLife> please do a scanModem scan and pastebin the results
[07:35] <stdin> !pastebin
[07:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:39] <nahemoth> instead of HJSPLIT, what can I use?
[07:39] <cox377> does anyone here use ncftp?
[07:39] <illriginal> Hey guys?... How would I be able to back up my bookmarks? I want to install Ubuntu Feisty but I don't want to lose my bookmarks. I'm currently on Ubuntu Edgy
[07:39] <nahemoth> for Kubuntu
[07:39] <HymnToLife> illriginal, separathe home partition ?
[07:40] <nahemoth> illriginal:  check for your browser's file, there must be a file which keeps your bookmarks also search engines...etc
[07:40] <cox377> or more to the point does anyone know how to download a hole folder, command wise
[07:40] <nahemoth> illriginal: after the installation, you can replace the file
[07:40] <HymnToLife> cox377, wget ?
[07:40] <nahemoth> instead of HJSPLIT, what can I use?
[07:41] <HymnToLife> !repeat | nahemoth
[07:41] <ubotu> nahemoth: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:41] <hendaus> !skype
[07:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:43] <lfranchi>  can someone tell me what package the new_wlan_scan_sta module is in? i'm desperately trying to load it and can't
[07:43] <felzix> go into your browser and: Bookmarks -> Edit Bookmarks -> File -> Save as... (or export)
[07:44] <felzix> illriginal
[07:44] <HymnToLife> :find new_wlan
[07:44] <HymnToLife> !find new_wlan
[07:44] <ubotu> Package/file new_wlan does not exist in feisty
[07:44] <HymnToLife> hmm
[07:44] <illriginal> flezix?
[07:44] <HymnToLife> lfranchi, what are you looking for, exactly ?
[07:45] <lfranchi> i see howtos on the web saying to modprobe it
[07:45] <lfranchi> its for the atheros wireless card (in this case a macbook pro)
[07:45] <felzix> illriginal: you want to save your bookmarks, right?  what browser do you use?
[07:45] <illriginal> i figured it out... went to bookmarks, organize, export, then emailed myself the bookmarks.html file
[07:45] <felzix> ah, FF
[07:45] <illriginal> :)
[07:45] <lfranchi> i *think* its in restricted drivers or whatever, but its not for me
[07:45] <illriginal> the one and only
[07:45] <felzix> glad you worked it out :)
[07:45] <illriginal> yep
[07:45] <illriginal> well time to install feisty :D
[07:46] <ricardo_> anyone have any EVDO configs
[07:46] <lfranchi> HymnToLife: is there some way to check what package it exists in?
[07:46] <ricardo_> I got a a Dell D620 with EVDO from Verizon
[07:46] <fdoving> lfranchi: you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com for that.
[07:46] <HymnToLife> lfranchi, it doesn't seem to exist in any package...
[07:47] <lfranchi> that can't be right
[07:47] <HymnToLife> see for yourself...
[07:47] <lfranchi> i think i know
[07:47] <lfranchi> it might be in a newer restricted-modules-generic
[07:49] <fdoving> lfranchi: it's been renamed to wlan_scan_sta
[07:51] <lfranchi> fdoving: oh. thanks
[07:55] <wolferine> anyone use Crossover, im trying to speed up how it uses games
[07:56] <c1|freaky> Kartibok: thx ^^
[07:56] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[07:57] <felzix> hendaus: state a problem
[07:57] <titanix88> try cedega
[07:57] <wolferine> !help hendaus
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help hendaus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <hendaus> felzix:  thanx, but i have install nokia suite with wine, and doesnot work
[07:57] <wolferine> CEDEGA
[07:58] <wolferine> ops
[07:58] <wolferine> good idea
[07:59] <hendaus> wolferine:  my nokia cell is 6230 and i try nokia suite on wine and doesnot work
[07:59] <titanix88> anyway if cedega is wines fork, is it possible to fork wine open sourcebly again for a gaming compatibility layer(not emulator ;)?
[08:00] <timmay> does anyone use SJPhone?
[08:00] <titanix88> perheps someone should stand up for it.
[08:01] <wolferine> timmay, whats that?
[08:01] <wolferine> softphone?
[08:01] <timmay> yes
[08:01] <titanix88> "hendaus"if you're using it as a modem, try using "wvdial". Or can try "gnokii". Don;t need wine.
[08:02] <titanix88> Noop!!!
[08:03] <hendaus> titanix88:  i have a usb cable dku-2 , nokia 6230, so is it works with gnokii and wvdial?
[08:04] <titanix88> type "sudo wvdialconf"
[08:04] <titanix88> edit"/etc/wvdial.conf"
[08:05] <frojnd> has somone try to install bluetooth headset by this how to http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html  What I don't understand is that I can't find sample.a2dprc or a2dprc, even though everything went smood untill point I'd had to cp alsa-plugins/sample.a2dprc ~/.a2dprc  There is no such file on my computer..!! arh.. anyone please ??
[08:05] <titanix88> set your passwd, username and dialing number(uncomment the lines first)
[08:05] <Kartibok> c1|freaky: no probs hope it works
[08:06] <titanix88> then just "wvdial" on command line
[08:06] <hendaus> titanix88:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22600/
[08:07] <titanix88> gnokii is pretty primitive but you should have doing a lot works with it.
[08:07] <timmay> how can i tell what /dev is my audio?
[08:07] <timmay> i'm sleecting mixer for everything but it isn't working for my softphone
[08:08] <titanix88> by the way gnokii is a phone organiser.
[08:09] <hendaus> titanix88:  help me please friend,coz i have files document on my cell phone and i need them on my pc
[08:12] <titanix88> you have to be root user to edit /etc/wvdial.conf
[08:12] <hendaus> titanix88: ok tell me how to enter as root
[08:13] <titanix88> perheps gnokii can help you obtain your files though i am not sure. i was only able to dial through my nokia 6630.
[08:14] <titanix88> Nothing else!!!
[08:14] <hendaus> titanix88:  lets try
[08:14] <hendaus> titanix88:  my connection is adsl
[08:14] <titanix88> But you can check the doc. They say they support a lot of phones.
[08:15] <hendaus> titanix88:  so help me and tell me what can i do?
[08:15] <titanix88> OOps!That was abig mistake. :)
[08:17] <titanix88> hendaus: wvdial is not for you. You should try installing "gnokii". There are a lot of doc inside it's doc directory.Read it & try it.
[08:18] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok i open adept and ilet me see the gnokii
[08:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[08:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  now what can i do
[08:21] <nel> hole
[08:21] <nel> hola
[08:21] <nel> komo estan?
[08:21] <nel> hablan espaol
[08:21] <nel> ?
[08:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  how can i see the module nokia 6230
[08:22] <hendaus> !es | nel
[08:22] <ubotu> nel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:22] <nel> ok i see tha not speak spanish
[08:22] <nel> ok thanks ubotu
[08:24] <titanix88> go to "/usr/share/doc/gnokii/" and try some manuals. By the way my NOKIA 6630 was kidnapped so i'm stucked with a siemenscx75 :( Don't have gnokii anymore
[08:24] <timmay> what's the default audio device in /dev/
[08:24] <timmay> for onbaord audio jacks
[08:25] <hendaus> titanix88: how can i try some manuals, can u tell me please1
[08:26] <timmay> and what would be the USB device?
[08:27] <titanix88> hendaus: just like i said.Open your file manager and go to /usr/share/doc/gnokii and there should be some "read me" and etc. Read them.
[08:28] <hendaus> titanix88:  gnokki doesnot have the option to transfer the images from my cellphone
[08:28] <titanix88> timmy:perhaps /dev/audio
[08:28] <Sparc42> hello
[08:29] <frojnd> how can I unistall what I have installed by this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22602/ help is welcome!
[08:29] <BenWhitey> hey
[08:30] <BenWhitey> does ndiswrapper have KDE support?
[08:30] <titanix88> Sorry about that. These is the typical GNU/Linux fraustration. Companies does help FOSS project's so they take long time to mature.Perheps someday gnokii will have satisfy your needs.
[08:31] <chrissss> !debug apt-get
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debug apt-get - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <chrissss> !debug apt
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debug apt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <fdoving> chrissss: what are you trying to do?
[08:31] <Sparc42> can anyone help me with mount points for my DVD ROM and DVD writer
[08:31] <chrissss> adept debug
[08:31] <BenWhitey> does ndiswrapper have KDE support?
[08:31] <fdoving> !adeptfix | chrissss ?
[08:31] <ubotu> chrissss ?: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:31] <chrissss> yes
[08:32] <fdoving> Sparc42: it's usually /media/cdrom
[08:32] <Sparc42> ok
[08:32] <fdoving> Sparc42: or /media/cdrom0
[08:32] <titanix88> ubotu: try "make uninstall"
[08:32] <jsubl2> anyone using a webcam with kopete
[08:32] <Sparc42> thank you
[08:34] <BenWhitey> does ndiswrapper have KDE support?
[08:34] <BenWhitey> i.e. will it work in kubuntu?
[08:35] <Sparc42> ok well I set one to cdrom0 and the other to cdrom1 and i get errors... hence my visit here
[08:35] <hendaus> titanix88:  on option there is : bindir: /usr/sbin
[08:35] <hendaus> what should it be
[08:36] <titanix88> hendaus: can you post at least the line?
[08:38] <BenWhitey> i'm trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434595&page=4 but i get an error about the lack of gnome, can someone tell me what i do to follow the instructions in kde
[08:38] <BenWhitey> **with kde
[08:38] <BenWhitey> or should i jus tignore it
[08:38] <hendaus> titanix88:  brb ,,,,
[08:40] <secret> can someone help me out with a problem I'm having with my sound? I installed Kubuntu and I'm only getting sound from one side of my speakers and headphones?
[08:41] <mas195> hi everyone
[08:41] <secret> help me me out please?
[08:41] <secret> any suggestions?
[08:41] <secret> hi mas
[08:41] <mas195> i have a problem that i cannot get around... being a complete newb
[08:41] <secret> me too = newb
[08:41] <secret> having probs with my sound
[08:42] <mas195> when i launch the adept package manager an error comes up stating that another programs is accessing the database but nothing else is running....
[08:42] <secret> yeah look down on the task bar
[08:42] <secret> do you have an exclaimnation mark there
[08:42] <mas195> i have but nothing is running
[08:43] <secret> log off, then log back on
[08:43] <mas195> and no, the auto update icon is not present...
[08:43] <secret> auto update aye?
[08:43] <secret> ook
[08:43] <titanix88> secret: u have newly installed linux?
[08:43] <mas195> i have tried that too, and restarting and shutting down and coming back up but no luck
[08:43] <mas195> yeah... just last night
[08:43] <secret> oi, im only getting sound from one speaker?
[08:43] <secret> yes
[08:43] <secret> only just ten minutes ago
[08:44] <secret> sick of windows and their dam error reporting
[08:44] <mas195> ditto
[08:44] <titanix88> secret: did they sound fine b4?
[08:44] <secret> with windows, yes
[08:44] <titanix88> i mean in windows?
[08:45] <secret> in windows it was fine
[08:45] <secret> but with linux, it's strange
[08:45] <secret> i side is real low, while the other side is normal
[08:45] <secret> 1
[08:45] <titanix88> secret: do u find tyhe sound applet?
[08:45] <secret> what's this?
[08:45] <secret> Kmix?
[08:46] <secret> where's this applet?
[08:46] <titanix88> ya, configured it?
[08:46] <secret> i played around with it to try and fix it but no good
[08:46] <titanix88> bottom right corner of screen
[08:47] <titanix88> tried to balance the sounds?
[08:48] <secret> I see no options where I can balance the sounds
[08:48] <titanix88> theres a balance bar at bottom of kmix configure diag
[08:49] <titanix88> ryt click kmix and select <show mixer window>
[08:49] <secret> ok
[08:49] <secret> ?
[08:50] <secret> HD ULI thing?
[08:50] <titanix88> at the bottom of the mixer window see a bar? set it to middle
[08:50] <secret> It is set to the middle friend
[08:51] <secret> there's something wrong
[08:51] <secret> hey, when I mute, it dosen't work
[08:52] <secret> wtf? still sound from youtube
[08:52] <titanix88> from keyboard?
[08:52] <secret> from keyboard and icon
[08:53] <secret> dosen't mute
[08:53] <Sparc42> does KDE distinguish between CD and DVD?  ie /media/cdrom1 is actually a DVD writer
[08:53] <secret> you want me to put dvd in?
[08:53] <BluesKaj> secret, still hve yer browser open but minimized perhaps?
[08:53] <Sparc42> b/c I get this error trying to mount: The system reported: mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[08:53] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, yes
[08:53] <titanix88> spark: no, its all the same
[08:54] <secret> i have youtube running ok
[08:54] <Sparc42> ok.  any suggestions on my error then?
[08:54] <mas195> how can i terminate adept database access when adept is not running
[08:54] <secret> when I play an mp3 or anything involving sound, only one side gives sound on stereo and headphones
[08:54] <BluesKaj> hdd is usually the hrd drive not the dvd/cdrom drive
[08:55] <oldwest> hay all - any ideas on getting divx to play in website?
[08:55] <BluesKaj> secret, in the terminal type alsamixer ...try setting your balances in there
[08:56] <Sparc42> yea that's what I thought...  i have 2 drives mount points are /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 type auto for both and devices are /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 both are disabled
[08:57] <Sparc42> then when i try to enable i get that error
[08:57] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, , place a cd  in one and check system settings again
[08:58] <mas195> how can i terminate adept database access when adept is not running
[08:58] <BluesKaj> mas195, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:58] <secret> still no good, what could be causing this?
[08:59] <jaime> hola
[08:59] <frojnd> FFS has anyone here managed to install a2dpd driver??? I was trying to install all parts and depdendencies to work bluetooth headset. Bur everything stops when i come to the point that I have to edita2dprc. There is no such file... I was trying to install it by this tutorial, I think all known site: http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/build.html  Can someone tell me where to edit file a2dprc or maybe is another thing?
[08:59] <mas195> thank you... that did the trick...
[08:59] <secret> where's me friend go?
[09:00] <Sparc42> cd inserted. appears as audio cd on desktop but it can't read it
[09:00] <BluesKaj> secret, relogin : ctrl+alt+backspce
[09:00] <mas195> one other problem.... why does the network manager not detect my wireless network....
[09:00] <michael> lol
[09:00] <jaime> hay alguien aqui que hable espaol??? necesito una poca de ayuda
[09:01] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, look in system settings /advanced/disc & file systems
[09:01] <Sparc42> yep there
[09:01] <BluesKaj> !es | jaime
[09:01] <ubotu> jaime: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:01] <jaime> gracias
[09:02] <Castor_Troy> !ru
[09:02] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:02] <konqerr> hi
[09:02] <Funkah> Russian yayay
[09:02] <BluesKaj> !rs
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <konqerr> I need help
[09:02] <konqerr> how do I motn NTFS partition?
[09:02] <BluesKaj> !ru
[09:02] <konqerr> is not showing
[09:02] <konqerr> plase
[09:02] <konqerr> help
[09:02] <Castor_Troy> Funkah what what?
[09:03] <konqerr> anyone?
[09:03] <Funkah> Yay fror russian speak.
[09:03] <BluesKaj> !ru
[09:03] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:03] <Castor_Troy> Funkah    -?
[09:03] <konqerr> anyone??
[09:03] <konqerr> I need to mount NTFS partition
[09:04] <Funkah> Errr.  Njet.
[09:04] <BluesKaj> konqerr, install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config
[09:04] <konqerr> BluesKaj: does the LiveCD have it?
[09:05] <BluesKaj> no
[09:05] <konqerr> I am using LiveCd and have not tiem to go through the install process
[09:05] <konqerr> oh crap
[09:05] <Castor_Troy> Funkah speak russian?
[09:06] <Funkah> Nope.
[09:06] <BluesKaj> well, not totally definite , but you can try mounting thru the system menu
[09:06] <BluesKaj> and storage media
[09:08] <konqerr> who me?
[09:08] <konqerr> wheres that at
[09:08] <BluesKaj> yeah
[09:08] <BluesKaj> beside the K-menu\
[09:08] <konqerr> system settings?
[09:08] <Sparc42> in admin mode.  they are listed there but get the hdd error when I try to enable
[09:08] <konqerr> I guess sharing?
[09:08] <BluesKaj> run the cursor over the panel icons
[09:09] <konqerr> fdisk and filesystem?
[09:09] <konqerr> under advanced?
[09:10] <konqerr> doesn't tell me i can  mount it
[09:11] <konqerr> anyone>?
[09:11] <oldwest> Anyone help on this - Can't play movies online at Divx site?
[09:12] <oldwest> Have every player and codec I can think of or read about for kubnutu
[09:12] <oldwest> still no go..... - frustrating grrrr
[09:13] <konqerr> no
[09:13] <konqerr> doesn't help
[09:13] <konqerr> i need a straight way for doing this without a GUI or front end user
[09:14] <konqerr> WOOT!!!!!!!!
[09:14] <hendaus> titanix88:  i cant see the path /usr/share/doc/gnokii
[09:14] <Sparc42> BluesKaj:  getting this error as root:   The system reported: mount: block device /dev/scd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[09:14] <Sparc42> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:15] <konqerr> LOL I mounted like this outta desperation
[09:15] <konqerr> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/m$$$
[09:15] <konqerr> ok
[09:15] <konqerr> now it tells me the permission stuff
[09:15] <illriginal> Can someone help me with checkgmail? I'd like for it to pop up on the taskbar
[09:15] <konqerr> how do I do this?
[09:16] <konqerr> what kinda permissions
[09:16] <konqerr> ok please someone NTFS permissions !!
[09:17] <konqerr> holla back
[09:17] <konqerr> i am desperate
[09:17] <konqerr> need to burn some stuff and m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW and linux DOES recognitize it
[09:17] <konqerr> I mounted NTFS
[09:17] <konqerr> I just need the valid permission
[09:17] <BluesKaj> Sparc42, what kind of cd did you mount ?
[09:17] <Sparc42> audio
[09:18] <Sparc42> not sure it is mounted b/c its not able to access it
[09:18] <BluesKaj> burned or original?
[09:18] <Sparc42> original
[09:18] <konqerr> it is mounted
[09:18] <BluesKaj> aha
[09:18] <Sparc42> ?
[09:18] <konqerr> here /dev/sda2 on /media/windows type ntfs (rw)
[09:18] <konqerr> I used mount to see
[09:19] <BluesKaj> try a burned cd and then we ahve a reference
[09:19] <konqerr> OMG please someone what kinda permissions
[09:19] <stellar> Hi! Is there any way i could play my guitar trough some vst-plugins?
[09:19] <illriginal> Can someone help me to get my checkmail to start up when ubuntu starts up?!
[09:19] <BluesKaj> konqerr,  -su
[09:20] <illriginal> Can someone help me to get my checkmail to start up when ubuntu starts up?!
[09:20] <konqerr> yea well I need k3b to use it as well
[09:20] <Sparc42> BK:  it asked me the autorun but when I said open in window, nothing happened
[09:20] <konqerr> I need to burn stuff
[09:20] <konqerr> besidesd su what?
[09:20] <konqerr> how is that gonna help
[09:20] <konqerr> ?
[09:21] <ubuntu_> Hi ^^
[09:21] <konqerr> omg, c'mon someone, a simple permission line for NTFS!!!
[09:21] <konqerr> or /media/ntfs
[09:22] <Funkah> del all
[09:22] <Funkah> If it's so simple, figure it out?
[09:23] <stellar> does someone know a good vst-host program for kubuntu?
[09:26] <Sparc42> any further suggestions?
[09:27] <BluesKaj> konqerr, go unto system settings/ advanced/ disk & filesystems /...try to enable the ntfs file system
[09:28] <hendaus> helpers, anyone help please!
[09:28] <BluesKaj> BTW konqerr did you install windows after ubuntu by any chance ?
[09:28] <marko> somebody here use tango icons ?
[09:28] <amikabil> hendaus, ur problem what?
[09:29] <marko> can i get an ubuntu pakage for kde
[09:30] <amikabil> marko: u want gnome packages i guess?
[09:30] <marko> no
[09:30] <marko> for kde
[09:31] <konqerr> BluesKaj:  no I am using live CD
[09:31] <konqerr> I need to burn some stuff to free room on the m$$ partition
[09:31] <hendaus> amikabil:  i have installed gnokii, my cellphone nokia 6230
[09:31] <konqerr> m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW unlike Linux
[09:31] <hendaus> amikabil: i have many documents very important on my cell and i want to transfer them to my pc, how can u help me
[09:32] <konqerr> this isn't working so far: ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000
[09:32] <amikabil> marko, what package do u want?
[09:32] <konqerr> nor is this one: ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[09:32] <marko> i need tango icons for kde
[09:32] <amikabil> hendaus: ur docs on memory card?
[09:33] <hendaus> amikabil:  yes my memory card? sorry
[09:33] <BluesKaj> why the panic , konqerr ...you don't have normal access to windowa on yer pc/laptop?
[09:33] <secret> wtf? this linux is fkn playing up sothing shocking.
[09:33] <MarioBot> hola como estac
[09:33] <MarioBot> hola que hay de nuevo
[09:34] <secret> everything is big, and I can't change it too 1024x768
[09:34] <BluesKaj> !es | MarioBot
[09:34] <ubotu> MarioBot: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:34] <secret> my speaker is only working
[09:34] <secret> 1
[09:34] <MarioBot> gracias
[09:34] <amikabil> as far as i know its not yet possible to explore a phone from ubuntu as is possible in MS win
[09:34] <wouterh> hi, guidance-power-save does not seem to use the lowest power mode of my processor, even not with the powersave governor
[09:34] <secret> where'd my friend go
[09:35] <hendaus> amikabil:  i was using on windows nokia suite for my cellphone, but on kubuntu i install the same program with wine and doesnot work :(
[09:35] <konqerr> BluesKaj: I do
[09:35] <nahemoth> do you have any idea about how I can open the files "...part1.rar , ...part2.rar...etc" .... Ark normally opens them, but if the file has a password, then Ark has a problem, how can I decompress those files...?
[09:35] <konqerr> I have a liveCD and I need to burn stuff outta the NTFS partition ASAP
[09:35] <Kartibok> Hi, anyone know what the gadgets such as weather that you can put on your desktop are called? Many thanks
[09:35] <konqerr> 'causet the thing is FULL
[09:36] <konqerr> I need to free up hard drive
[09:36] <konqerr> and m$$ isn't recognizing the DVD RW
[09:36] <secret> can someone help me?
[09:36] <konqerr> so I am doing it off LiveCD
[09:36] <amikabil> hendaus: sorry impossible yet on ubuntu
[09:36] <secret> therez something wrong with my screen, theres something wrong with my sound
[09:36] <BluesKaj> secret, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/config monitor/config graphics card ...apply close and logout and back in again, now you can reset your resolution
[09:36] <hendaus> amikabil:  so there is no solution?
[09:37] <amikabil> hendaus: sorry my friend. but dont you have a memory card reader?
[09:38] <BluesKaj> konqerr, why are you trying to burn windows files with a live cd ... ?
[09:38] <konqerr> yeah
[09:38] <BluesKaj> why?
[09:38] <konqerr> 'cause m$$$ doesn't recognize the damn DVD RW
[09:38] <BluesKaj> whynot just do it in windows
[09:38] <konqerr> that's why and  Linux DOES
[09:38] <konqerr> 'CAUSDSEM$$$ DOEWN NOT WRCONSIOGE IOT!!!
[09:39] <BluesKaj> well, sorry but you have to install ubuntu first AFAIK
[09:39] <konqerr> na
[09:39] <konqerr> there's a way to do it command line
[09:39] <konqerr> I've done this before
[09:39] <tekky> anyone know why when I click on "administrator mode" the window highlights with the red box but doesnt ask for a password or bring up any config options?
[09:39] <hendaus> amikabil:  memory card of my cellphone?
[09:40] <konqerr> what are the USER permissions to pass to /media/windows?
[09:40] <BluesKaj> the time you spent in here trying to get it to work, could have been spent installing ubuntu
[09:40] <amikabil> hendaus: yes