[11:50] <elementary> hujo, http://s13.postimg.org/xod32m0xz/Screenshot_from_2014_11_09_13_49_47.png
[11:50] <tyuio> how the range of scan with  nmap ?
[11:50] <sacarlson1> tyuio: man nmap
[11:51] <tyuio> not found
[11:53] <sacarlson1> tyuio: example nmap -sn <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ;  will echo ping  <IP_ADDRESS> - 255
[11:53] <Glda19> what is a good partion configuration with a ssd 128 gb and a hd 1TB
[11:53] <sacarlson1> tyuio: on do you have nmap installed?
[11:54] <tyuio> yes of course
[11:54] <tyuio> but that's my question
[11:54] <Quixx> [  1535.931] (EE) intel(0): Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration.
[11:54] <Quixx> [  1535.931] (EE) intel(0): When reporting this, please include /sys/class/drm/card0/error and the full dmesg.
[11:55] <tyuio> i would like to know by default nmap scan how many port ?
[11:55] <Quixx> I found this in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and I've been having issues with xorg using high CPU. I'm on GMA965 and have the 'intel drivers' from 01.org. What do?
[11:55] <tyuio> what is range of scaning port for nmap ?
[11:55] <tyuio> by default
[11:56] <sacarlson1> tyuio: by default?  I gave you an example of ping scan so I'm not sure what the question is
[11:56] <sacarlson1> tyuio: what range do you want?
[11:57] <sacarlson1> tyuio: standard ranges for local networks on 192.168.x.x   for all subnets?
[11:57] <tyuio> well this is what i got during a scan of nmap
[11:57] <tyuio> Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 12:56
[11:57] <tyuio> Scanning <IP_ADDRESS> [1000 ports]
[11:57] <HolyGoat> anyone familiar with the openstack installer? I've started the process a few hours ago, but no sign of progress other than the elapsed time in seconds and some animated blue thingy from which I assume that there is activity
[11:58] <tyuio> and my question is by default only scan 1000 ports ?
[11:58] <C0p3n1cus> Dual boot with windows 8.1 is a pain, boot repair hangs after default repair
[11:58] <sacarlson1> tyuio: then it's not doing a ping scan it's scanning all ports on a single address
[11:58] <tyuio> and my question is by default nmap only scan 1000 ports ?
[11:58] <C0p3n1cus> any idea's what to try next?
[11:58] <tyuio> Scanning <IP_ADDRESS> [1000 ports]  1000 ports means what ?
[11:58] <sacarlson1> tyuio: I think depending on what command you provided will scan the standard 1024 bottom system used ports
[11:59] <sabun> tyuio -p<PHONE_NUMBER>000
[11:59] <C0p3n1cus> I really need dual boot because my wifi doesn't work ether :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1383184
[11:59] <sacarlson1> tyuio: best you provide what command you gave to get the results
[11:59] <tyuio> nmap -T4 -A -v <IP_ADDRESS> this the command
[12:00] <sacarlson1> tyuio: ok ]
[12:01] <tyuio> nmap -T4 -A -v <IP_ADDRESS> -p<PHONE_NUMBER>000 this command not working
[12:01] <Quixx> try -p 60000?
[12:01] <Quixx> without the ?
[12:01] <sacarlson1> tyuio: first -A: Enable OS detection, version detection, script scanning, and traceroute
[12:01] <sabun> tyuio -p 1-100000
[12:01] <sacarlson1> tyuio: -v is verbos
[12:02] <sabun> and i think there are only like 64500 ports max, i dont know much networking
[12:02] <sacarlson1> tyuio: -T<0-5>: Set timing template (higher is faster)
[12:04] <kr4on> !brackets
[12:05] <tyuio> so it willl scan until 5 minutes ?
[12:05] <kr4on> !info brackets
[12:05] <kr4on> !info kompozer
[12:06] <tyuio> !info ubuntu
[12:06] <sacarlson1> tyuio:  adding -p1-65535  will scan all ports on your target ip
[12:07] <sacarlson1> tyuio: for more info you should look at the man pages of nmap  at the command line with man nmap
[12:07] <tyuio> perfect thhx a lot
[12:08] <tyuio> is it possible nmap  on watch mode
[12:08] <tyuio> is it possible to nmap  on watch mode ?
[12:08] <sacarlson1> tyuio: what is watch mode?
[12:09] <tyuio> yeah
[12:09] <tyuio> like scanning baggage      on aeroport
[12:10] <tyuio> i would like to scan port in permanent mode
[12:11] <sacarlson1> tyuio: you could setup a script to do so if you had an idea of what you are looking for yes
[12:12] <sacarlson1> tyuio: normaly to find what's on my net I use arp -n ;  or arping since most systems have firewalls preventing detection
[12:12] <tyuio> i think it can also be done with watch command
[12:13] <sacarlson1> tyuio: but they can't block arp or they wouldn't work at all
[12:14] <sacarlson1> tyuio: yes watch or a cron job to run at some periodic time
[12:15] <tyuio>  -T0-5 how long it will                   take for scanning with nmap ?
[12:16] <sacarlson1> tyuio: it's not -t0-5  its -T0  -T1 ... each is a different time interval between scans
[12:16] <tyuio>  i initialize this command nmap -T0-5 -A -v 19<IP_ADDRESS> at 13:02 now it is 13:15 still workin
[12:16] <sacarlson1> tyuio: then it would be -T0 I assume with -5 ignore
[12:17] <tyuio> T0 how long it wil     take ?
[12:18] <sacarlson1> tyuio: depends on how many ports you are scanning and I wouldn't know you would have to time it
[12:19] <tyuio> ok perfect
[12:19] <kr4on> !info gdb
[12:20] <tyuio> a question about netcat
[12:20] <tyuio> is it   useeeefull for what kind of uses ???????????????
[12:20] <Duuh> guys
[12:20] <Duuh> i need help D:
[12:20] <kr4on> !info ishw
[12:21] <sacarlson1> tyuio: netcat has 1000+ uses to much to say here
[12:21] <Duuh> ples
[12:21] <ssshvb> hello    how can i install (update)   ubuntu   when i try to use  live USB  it does not see my old ubuntu  probably something with the boot  i try to use boot-repair  but it loops at  "Filesystem repair requires to unmount partitions. Please close all your programs. Then close this window."
[12:22] <hujo> !ask | Duuh
[12:22] <tyuio> ok perfect
[12:22] <Duuh> ubottu: ok ty
[12:23] <Duuh> guys, how can i set my pc as it was yesterday?
[12:23] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: what disks are visiable with like sudo fdisk -l ?
[12:24] <Duuh> i did some experiments, and i'd like to set it as was before i did them
[12:24] <Duuh> !ask
[12:25] <hujo> Duuh, unless you have backup or some other solution that versions your filesystem, that won't be possible
[12:25] <Duuh> shiet
[12:25] <Duuh> hujo: ok thank you
[12:25] <sacarlson1> Duuh: if you want to preserve points you might want to look at the git package.  with git you can snapshot changes made at any point in time with commits
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <sacarlson1> Duuh: you can also auto snapshot at points in time with rsync-backup
[12:26] <ssshvb>  <sacarlson1>  there is a few lines of information   so do i need to publish it somewhere?
[12:26] <Duuh> sacarlson1 : how can i look at those git packages?
[12:27] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: yes you could pastebin it
[12:28] <hujo> Duuh, git however is not a backup solution, rsync-backup would be the better choice in your case
[12:28] <ssshvb>  <sacarlson1>  http://pastebin.com/XiuX1ffz
[12:28] <Duuh> ok
[12:28] <Duuh> i'll try
[12:28] <looneygod> sacarlson1, hujo I just came back to say that it got fixed after adding  "iface dhcp inet dhcp" to my "interfaces" file. Thanks a lot for helping
[12:29] <TheEnlightenedOn> I have a suggestion for the ubuntu developers
[12:29] <TheEnlightenedOn> what is their channel?
[12:29] <sacarlson1> Duuh: https://try.github.io/levels/1/challenges/1
[12:29] <TheEnlightenedOn> about funding :)
[12:29] <hujo> Duuh, it will only help you in your future endeavors however
[12:29] <sacarlson1> Duuh: git is in the ubuntu repository
[12:29] <TheEnlightenedOn> #ubuntu-dev?
[12:32] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: seems to be 4 disks detected on your system with 5 different partitions
[12:32] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: they all apear to be windows type partitions except for one
[12:32] <TheEnlightenedOn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/497691/how-to-add-windows-8-boot-entry-to-grub2 , I need to do this manually, where can I find information on how to do this?
[12:33] <TornadoMan> How can I get HTTPS on localhost?
[12:33] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: you should be able to go to nautilus and mount and view what's in them
[12:33] <TheEnlightenedOn> The automatic version fails
[12:33] <hujo> TornadoMan, by running a webserver accepting https traffic
[12:33] <sacarlson1> TornadoMan: to start I guess you will need something like apache2
[12:33] <TornadoMan> hujo; can libressl get https
[12:34] <Glda19> is it use full to make lvm for system en storage on a desktop
  i can see my old system   i  am on that computer  but booted from live usb
[12:34] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: so I'm not sure what your goal is
[12:35] <hujo> TornadoMan, those two are completely different things
[12:36] <TornadoMan> what is libressl
 my goal is   load my old system or update it to a new version but my files and programs  must be there somethig like that
[12:36] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: what partition is ubuntu on?
  guess it is  /dev/sdc8  ext4
[12:42] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: so it fails to boot?
  yes  i do not see  the boot menu   and when i try to update  ubuntu  the installer does not see ubuntu  it see  only windows
[12:43] <sacarlson1> Glda19: I'm now using lvm on my desktop but it is still somewhat new to me.  I chose it as I thought it would make it posible to change size easy later
[12:44] <EriC^^> ssshvb: did it used to work?
[12:44] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: maybe try change the boot sequence in bios
[12:45] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> yes  my old ubuntu works  but it crashed bicouse of nvidea driver
[12:45] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: have it boot sdc disk first
[12:45] <EriC^^> ssshvb: ok, please type sudo parted -l
[12:46] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: ya try EriC^^ idea first
[12:47] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> http://pastebin.com/z5qLmPUj
[12:47] <sacarlson1> oh EriC^^ he has also provided output with fdisk -l but gpt is not seen clear with that
[12:48] <cfhowlett> fdisk won't see gpt.  use gdisk
[12:51] <sacarlson1> cfhowlett: EriC^^ ya your parted -l is now showing the gpt partition  he says his install for root might be on sdc8
[12:51] <EriC^^> ssshvb: you have 2 installations of linux?
[12:52] <EriC^^> ssshvb: what's the 1TB partition and the 500GB partition?
[12:52] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: he should be able to mount them and take a peak inside to be sure
  i try to update it from live usb  but it stops  and does not do something 4 hours some i reset the system
[12:54] <EriC^^> ssshvb: you can't update ubuntu from a liveusb
[12:54] <EriC^^> ssshvb: you need to do sudo do-release-upgrade from the installation, or a fresh install from a live usb ( after backing your stuff up )
[12:54] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: I assume he means he was installing a new on top the old or in a spare partition?
[12:56] <EriC^^> ssshvb: sudo mount /dev/sdc8 /mnt
[12:56] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> but i can not start the old system how ...
[12:56] <ssshvb> ok
[12:56] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: as you suggested let's look at what's there
[12:57] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: ssshvb i think sdc8 is the old installation, it has a bios-boot partition before it, the other partition sdc6 also has a bios-boot partition too i think it's another installation
[12:57] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: hard to say it looks big
[12:58] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^>  ok
[12:58] <EriC^^> ssshvb: open a terminal and type sudo mount /dev/sdc8 /mnt
[12:58] <EriC^^> ssshvb: which ubuntu version did you have? and which were you installing/updating to?
[12:59] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^>   did it      12
[12:59] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> 14
[12:59] <EriC^^> ssshvb: type cat /mnt/etc/issue
[12:59] <EriC^^> and paste here
[12:59] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: a peak at /home might give a clue of it's age, if it's a new install maybe erase and start again
 with sudo ?
[13:00] <EriC^^> ssshvb: no need
[13:00] <ssshvb> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /mnt/etc/issue cat: /mnt/etc/issue: No such file or directory
   ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /mnt/etc/issue cat: /mnt/etc/issue: No such file or directory
[13:01] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: or if you can figure out how to get one to boot then a standard upgrade might be posible
[13:01] <EriC^^> ssshvb: type ls -l /mnt
[13:01] <EriC^^> ssshvb: what do you see?
[13:02] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^>  http://pastebin.com/0ErbHbR5
[13:03] <Hrishi> Why there are 2 Ubuntu help sites, Ubuntu Forums and Ask Ubuntu?
[13:04] <dirk_> elloes
[13:04] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: from this is looks like new directly on top of old from what I see /home is Apr  8  2013 home last year
[13:05] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: and yet /boot is yestarday
[13:05] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: no /etc
[13:05] <Guest47305> Hi guys, I tried to install some packages today but it says they aren't authenticated? https://dpaste.de/9Gf9
[13:06] <Guest47305> that is a lot of packages... what should I do?
[13:06] <EriC^^> ssshvb: try ls -l /mnt/home
[13:06] <k1l_> Guest47305: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[13:06] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: oh I didn't notice that, so it must be totaly broken or they mounted /etc ??? nope can't guess
  total 48 drwxr-xr-x 101 1000 1000 36864 Nov  8 10:05 alex drwxr-xr-x   4  120  130  4096 Mar 24  2013 mythtv drwxr-xr-x   2 1001 1002  4096 Apr  8  2013 wowserver_user_name
[13:07] <EriC^^> ssshvb: ok so those are your usernames right?
[13:07] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: maybe an unfinished installation
  yes  i need only alex folder
[13:08] <EriC^^> ssshvb: sudo mkdir /mnt1 && sudo mount /dev/sdc6 / /mnt1
  yes unfinished installation
[13:08] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: well at this point maybe recover /home to another location and reinstall, or explore what can be done to the other suspected install
[13:09] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: sounds good
  <sacarlson1> i need old system  that has expencinve  programms and i can not reinstall it
[13:10] <EriC^^> ssshvb: i think an installation was done over it
  so do this sudo mkdir /mnt1 && sudo mount /dev/sdc6 / /mnt1 ?
[13:10] <EriC^^> ssshvb: yes
 http://pastebin.com/PVkiWe4p
[13:12] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: wow and this expesive stuf was on /sdc8 ??  that might not be sounding good.  maybe he can recover /usr/bin oh and the libs?? wow I'm not sure
[13:12] <EriC^^> ssshvb: you added a "/" after /dev/sdc6
[13:13] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: oh ya small type
[13:13] <sacarlson1> typo
[13:13] <EriC^^> ah sorry
[13:13] <EriC^^> my bad
[13:13] <EriC^^> ssshvb: sudo mount /dev/sdc6 /mnt1
  i am sorry i got lost
[13:14] <ssshvb> ok
[13:14] <EriC^^> ssshvb: sorry, made a typo
[13:14] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> no feedback  from the system
[13:15] <EriC^^> ssshvb: ok, try ls -l /mnt1
[13:15] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> ls: cannot open directory /mnt1: Permission denied
[13:16] <EriC^^> ssshvb: ok, sudo ls -l /mnt
 http://pastebin.com/jiRTRk12
[13:17] <EriC^^> damn
[13:17] <EriC^^> my bad again
[13:17] <EriC^^> :D
[13:17] <EriC^^> ssshvb: sorry, sudo ls -l /mnt1
[13:17] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: oh it's the same one
[13:18] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: no, another typo :D
[13:18] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: yup
[13:18] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> http://pastebin.com/PAK1sgwQ
[13:18] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: ssshvb oh this is just data
[13:19] <ssshvb> yes
[13:19] <EriC^^> ssshvb: ok
[13:20] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: EriC^^ well maybe you could see if you could at least move /home from the other to here if space allows.  but to recover the old programs????
[13:20] <EriC^^> ssshvb: why can't you reinstall the expensive software?
[13:21] <sacarlson1> EriC^^:  ssshvb ya and what kind of software is it??
[13:21] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^>  maya
[13:22] <ssshvb>  <sacarlson1> EriC^^  there are a few  programs and all of them work together  it will cost me lots of tiem to get it work back
[13:22] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: EriC^^ oh wow autodesk 3d animation must be expensive.
[13:23] <EriC^^> ssshvb: ok, maybe we can try to get the list of programs
[13:23] <EriC^^> ssshvb: first back up home as sacarlson1 suggested
[13:23] <EriC^^> ssshvb: type df -h | grep /mnt1
[13:23] <EriC^^> and du -sbh /mnt/home
[13:24] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: and get a list of /usr/bin I guess is where they must put the running apps but what libs do they link to  and were they over writen in the attempted install?
[13:25] <mydopey> sacarlson1: out of the folder
[13:25] <sacarlson1> EriC^^:  I just don't have alot of hope here
[13:25] <JustSighDudes> Guys, I have a cifs share mounted but can only access it as root. How do I open it up for my normal account?
[13:25] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: me neither, i just noticed usr is one of the nov 9 directories
[13:26] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: oh fantastic
 http://pastebin.com/cZL9EuFg
[13:26] <mydopey> JustSighDudes: disk utility. Its already installed as an app. Just look for it.
[13:26] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: oh if the directory is new then it may have also just deleted the old
[13:27] <EriC^^> ssshvb: the sdc6 is almost full
[13:27] <mydopey> Let them free
[13:27] <JustSighDudes> mydopey: access to CLI only
[13:27] <EriC^^> ssshvb: do you have another partition with free space on it?
[13:27] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^> guess i can clean that disk with files
[13:28] <EriC^^> ssshvb: ok
[13:28] <mydopey> JustSighDudes: no it's a full gui.
[13:28] <DrSailorR> http://giftedwriterssociety.blogspot.ca/  High IQ Society for Gifted Programmers
[13:28] <Guest47305> JustSighDudes: Try changing permissions to the share? chgrp, chown, chmod.
[13:28] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^>  but i do not see it in nautilius
[13:28] <Guest47305> Guest47305: make sure your user is allowed to access shares
[13:28] <JustSighDudes> Guest47305: No errors thrown, but the permissions don't change. The mount point is owned by the user I'm trying to access as.
[13:29] <Guest47305> ok
[13:29] <EriC^^> ssshvb: it's in /mnt1 open a terminal and type gksu nautilus /mnt1
[13:29] <mydopey> EriC^^: so try it
[13:29] <gdrizzt> Hello! New to Ubuntu and wanted to see what was up in here.
  The program 'gksu' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu You will have to enable the component called 'universe'
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> gdrizzt  this is the support channel, where people come for help
[13:30] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: I think in this case sudo nautilus /mnt1 ;  should also work
[13:31] <gdrizzt> MonkeyDust, I wish I wasn't seeking help, but hello to you too! I have a problem with a full /boot
[13:31] <mydopey> MonkeyDust: You got that right.
 bash: /mnt1: Is a directory
[13:32] <ali_> Hello
[13:32] <mydopey> Hello ali
[13:32] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: opps I guess nautilus don't work like that :-D
[13:32] <ali_> #include <iostream.h>
[13:32] <gdrizzt> Anyone willing to help this noob                <<<<<<<------------
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> gdrizzt  start with a question
[13:32] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: it should work
[13:33] <ali_> what?
[13:33] <ali_> mydopay?
   <sacarlson1> let me quick restart  when i loaded  i sow  all disks  but after boot-repair use  they are gone
[13:34] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: well just sudo nautilus ;  then and manualy navigate to /mnt1
 yes thanks
 the Boot is full, on the Grub section and I am new to Ubuntu
[13:36] <gdrizzt> sudo apt-get clean isn't displaying anything in the terminal and autoremove, update get error responses
[13:36] <sacarlson1> ssshvb: EriC^^ ; I'm not sure what you see that's missing.  the only thing we note is that /etc is missing in sdc8 making it not bootable in any way I can figure
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> gdrizzt  use a !pastebin to show the errors to the channel
[13:37] <ssshvb>  <EriC^^>  <sacarlson1> i deleted files so guess it has lots of space now
[13:37] <EriC^^> ssshvb: df -h | grep /mnt1
[13:39] <EriC^^> also sudo du -sbh /mnt/home ( forgot sudo last time )
  http://pastebin.com/LLtBAQGz
[13:39] <ssshvb> ok let me redo it
[13:41] <Glda19> how can i change the name off de desktop
[13:41] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: so 15gb free space?
[13:41] <l3kid> hi guys how to hide ip on irc ?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> Glda19  try changing it in the file /etc/hostname
[13:41] <k1l_> l3kid: ask #freenode for a cloak
[13:41] <ssshvb>  <sacarlson1> EriC^^: 362G	/mnt/home
[13:41] <l3kid> what is a cloak?
[13:41] <newlex> hi, I'm on 14.10, I have an ipv6 address but it doesn't seem to be externally connectable and I'm not really sure what to do to fix that
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> l3kid  it's a way to do what you just asked
[13:42] <newlex> instead of showing your ip address or hostname, shows something that is just nothing
[13:42] <l3kid> okay
[13:42] <ssshvb>  <sacarlson1> EriC^^: meybe i need to clean a rubishbin  ?
[13:42] <gdrizzt> monkey dust, the pastebin, how do I do that ?
[13:42] <gansteed> is there a bug in gdb list command? when I use list, it's not start from  the 1th line. only test it in ubuntu 14.04
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> !paste > gdrizzt
[13:43] <newlex> How can I test if my server has IPv6 connectivity? (It does have an external IP according to ifconfig)
[13:44] <sacarlson1> newlex: google for ipv6 test,  there are many sites that will display your ipv6 status
[13:44] <newlex> sacarlson1: I mean on a server, sorry for not being more specific
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> newlex  there's also #ubuntu-server
[13:44] <newlex> ah ok
[13:44] <newlex> cool
[13:45] <jjmiv> good morning
[13:45] <sacarlson1> newlex: I assume you want to know if it has ipv6 from wan
[13:45] <newlex> right
[13:46] <newlex> well I'm trying to setup an ipv6 openvpn
[13:46] <sacarlson1> newlex: you might try ping an ipv6 only website
[13:46] <newlex> it pings ipv6.google.com
[13:46] <newlex> But I don't know what's wrong
[13:46] <newlex> It's like it can't listen on ipv6 but it can access it
[13:46] <gdrizzt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8900546/         <<<<<<<<<<<<<<------ is that right ?
[13:46] <sacarlson1> newlex: oh ok so listen on what port 80?
[13:47] <chips> hi
[13:47] <k1l_> gdrizzt:  No space left on device
[13:47] <newlex> yeah I can't access it
[13:47] <k1l_> gdrizzt: please show  a "df -h" in a pastebin
[13:47] <newlex> it's on a dedicated server cluster at a datacenter, this is why I'm so confused
[13:47] <sacarlson1> newlex: try dig youname
[13:47] <gdrizzt> thanks k1l
[13:47] <chips> interstellar is amazing movie
[13:47] <sacarlson1> newlex: maybe you dns isn't setup with ipv6 to your website
[13:48] <newlex> I added an AAAA entry like 3 days ago
[13:48] <newlex> dig youname?
[13:48] <liuxg> EriC^^, I still failed in the bootable USB image. I used another USB to do the test.
[13:48] <chips> i watched it yesterday
[13:48] <sacarlson1> newlex: dig nameofyoursite.com
[13:48] <newlex> ah k
[13:48] <chips> sexy movie
[13:48] <newlex> good call I see ZERO AAA entries
[13:48] <newlex> AAAA*
[13:48] <k1l_> !ot | chips
[13:49] <newlex> that's really odd
[13:49] <sacarlson1> newlex: well it could be your client has no aaaa access
[13:49] <newlex> hm
[13:49] <newlex> well in this case it's the server itself that I ran dig on
[13:50] <newlex> I may contact my server host
[13:50] <sacarlson1> newlex: can your client ping ipv6.google.com
[13:50] <newlex> yes
[13:50] <newlex> both my client and server
[13:50] <gdrizzt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8900614/
[13:50] <liuxg> does anyone know exactly steps to install a bootable USB with Ubuntu OS (it is not a liveusb). I am now trying to install it using another USB stick. However, I always fail.
[13:50] <newlex> one of the first things I tested actually
[13:50] <sacarlson1> newlex: oh ok from the server no ipv6 dig ya so thats broken
[13:50] <newlex> yeah
[13:50] <newlex> exactly
[13:50] <cfhowlett> liuxg, select the usb.  partition as normal. install.
[13:50] <newlex> I can dns ipv6 it here
[13:50] <k1l_> gdrizzt: your /boot is full. remove a old kernel package first
[13:51] <newlex> So I should contact my server host you think?
[13:51] <newlex> or maybe its just a matter of the DNS servers there
[13:51] <k1l_> gdrizzt: show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"  in a pastebin
[13:51] <cfhowlett> gdrizzt, sudo apt-get autoremove should clean out older kernels
[13:51] <gdrizzt> k1l_  just a sec
[13:51] <sacarlson1> newlex: you might verify that you can direct ping it with ipv6 address
[13:51] <newlex> k
[13:51] <newlex> I can't ping it even on ipv4 it's configured like that I presume from them
[13:52] <liuxg> cfhowlett, yes, I did it that way. chose "something else". I created a swap 500M, and the rest leaves to the "/".  I also chose the /dev/sdb as the bootloader. still I fail.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> liuxg, what size USB?
[13:52] <liuxg> cfhowlett, I got 16G and 32G both sizes.
[13:52] <sacarlson1> newlex: it's posible only ipv6 but you should be able to get the ipv6 address and attempt to ping it from outside wan
[13:52] <newlex> k
[13:53] <newlex> well I'm saying I think they firewall out pings
[13:53] <newlex> I don't know
[13:53] <liuxg> cfhowlett, do I need to set the bootloader to "/dev/sdb" or "/dev/sdb1" which has the installation.
[13:53] <gdrizzt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8900691/   k1l_
[13:53] <cfhowlett> liuxg, /dev/sdb   should do.
[13:53] <sacarlson1> newlex: oh no pings then netcat or something on port 80
[13:53] <newlex> k
[13:53] <cfhowlett> liuxg, "fails" means  .... what exactly?
[13:53] <liuxg> cfhowlett, after installation, it always crashes my grub, and make my pc not bootable. It comes to the grub command line,
[13:53] <gdrizzt> cfhowlett, the autoremove ended in a similar fail, as my first pastebin
[13:54] <k1l_> gdrizzt: "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic"
[13:54] <cfhowlett> gdrizzt, let me look.  I was wrong.  autoremove does NOT clean kernels.
[13:54] <sacarlson1> newlex: maybe try ping first. only windows disables pings
[13:54] <sacarlson1> newlex: oh and I think it's ping6
[13:54] <cfhowlett> gdrizzt, k1l_ has your solution
[13:54] <liuxg> cfhowlett, my pc cannot find it a bootable device in the bios. Instead, the liveusb does.
[13:54] <newlex> yeah ping6 I can't ping it
[13:54] <newlex> I can dns it
[13:54] <gdrizzt> Thanks, I;ll input that!
[13:55] <newlex> I also tried setting nginx to host on ipv6
[13:55] <cfhowlett> liuxg, /dev/sdb        reinstall grub to that location
[13:55] <newlex> and just did listen to ::
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | liuxg
[13:55] <newlex> and nothing
[13:55] <sacarlson1> newlex: oh maybe dig @ipv6addressyoursite yahoo.com
[13:55] <newlex> k
[13:56] <newlex> yeah nothing lol
[13:56] <newlex> no worries
[13:56] <ssshvb> i will try to restart
[13:56] <newlex> I can just go without IPV6 for the moment, it was just something like a bonus
[13:56] <newlex> I have a feeling it's them not me
[13:56] <mnngfltg2> Hey everyone, my server is flooded with traffic and I'm having trouble finding out where the traffic is from
[13:56] <newlex> the server host
[13:57] <mnngfltg2> I've tried iftop but I can't make head or tails of it
[13:57] <liuxg> cfhowlett, I have repeated the step for many times. yes, I can recovery the problem by updating the grub. I pressed F12, and chose "Ubuntu". I can boot into the installed USB drive. However, if I insert it into another machine, it does not boot at all.
[13:57] <newlex> but look much appreciated for the help
[13:58] <sacarlson1> mnngfltg2: get some water pumps and some paper towels and dry the baby out,  just kiding
[13:58] <newlex> sacarlson1: seriously, thanks for your time
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> mnngfltg2  you too: there's also #ubuntu-server
[13:58] <newlex> I don't know what else to do really at this point but blame them lol
[13:58] <mnngfltg2> MonkeyDust, I'll check that out!
[13:58] <cfhowlett> liuxg, I'm guessing that your installation included a /dev/sda        partition which would be absent on a different machine
[13:58] <gdrizzt> how can I know what to clean out for next time ? or how can I prevent these kernels from filling up the boot ?  k1l_ ?
[13:58] <liuxg> ubottu, thanks for your help. I have basically repeated the steps again and again to recover the grub.
[13:59] <k1l_> gdrizzt: regulary remove old kernels
[13:59] <newlex> sacarlson1: oye im the dumb one
[13:59] <sacarlson1> mnngfltg2: is it a website?
[13:59] <newlex> I'm reading now I just have to add the ::1
[13:59] <gdrizzt> how do I know which to remove ?
[13:59] <liuxg> cfhowlett, yes, my pc has two partitions. one for windows, and one for ubuntu 14.10.
[13:59] <mnngfltg2> sacarlson1, yes, though I'm not sure it's port 80 traffic I'm seeing
[13:59] <sacarlson1> newlex: opps I should have assked you for the address
[13:59] <newlex> sacarlson1: yeah lol
[13:59] <newlex> sacarlson1: I have a ::/61
[13:59] <newlex> sacarlson1: I have a ::/64
[13:59] <newlex> and I think I just need to add the ::1
[13:59] <newlex> and it'll work
[14:00] <mnngfltg2> sacarlson1, my hosted tells me I have higher than usual traffic (5GiB per hour)
[14:00] <sacarlson1> mnngfltg2: well you can look at the apache logs to see whats touching each page
[14:00] <liuxg> cfhowlett, even on the same machine, the grub crashes to command line. In the BIOS, UEFI boot order, the newly installed USB is not listed there.
[14:00] <mnngfltg2> sacarlson1, yes I checked the access logs and there's nothing there unforunately
[14:00] <cfhowlett> liuxg, this one is over my head.  sorry.  sounds like you did everything right ... but
[14:00] <sacarlson1> mnngfltg2: otherwise I don't know what other ports you have listening
[14:00] <liuxg> cfhowlett, the purpose of having this is for the student training. We need to produce a bootable image with SDK inside it.
[14:01] <newlex> sacarlson1: adding the ipv6 add fixed everything
[14:01] <cfhowlett> liuxg, option:  virtualbox on windows + ubuntu virtual machine?//
[14:01] <sacarlson1> mnngfltg2: you can look at sudo netstat -pant and get a list of posible ports that are in listen mode
[14:01] <Jinxed-> I'm looking at Ubuntu as a host OS for running VirtualBox. Any issues I should be aware of before I do this?
[14:01] <sacarlson1> newlex: oh cool now you owe me a beer then ha ha
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> Jinxed-  are you familiar with vbox?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> Jinxed-, nothing in particular = typically works just fine.
[14:02] <newlex> sacarlson1: I suppose I do ;)
[14:02] <liuxg> cfhowlett, the thing is that the emulator does not run well on VM. Another thing is that the 3D acceleration does not really work on virtualbox.
[14:02] <Jinxed-> MonkeyDust: yeah I have used it a few times
[14:02] <cfhowlett> liuxg, ouch. sorry but ask around.  most people in this channel are smarter than I am.
[14:02] <liuxg> cfhowlett, the current USB stick seems a doable solution to students who may not have the ubuntu OS installed.
[14:02] <newlex> sacarlson1: lol now off to #openvpn support since its not listening
[14:03] <gdrizzt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8900802/              this is what the commands df -h and dpkg -l | grep linux-image  wield now
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> Jinxed-  tip: change NAT to bridged, for the type of network
[14:03] <mnngfltg2> sacarlson1, makes sense. I'm also using ntop which shows me lots of traffic (I see the tcp or udp ports there)
[14:03] <liuxg> cfhowlett, anyway, thanks for your kind help on this.
[14:04] <sacarlson1> mnngfltg2: ya one of those text ip monitors should sort by trafic
[14:04] <sacarlson1> mnngfltg2: I don't recall witch since I normaly use wireshark that can filter and graph anything
[14:05] <sacarlson1> and that it for me,  time for me to find some girls and a beer
[14:05] <liuxg> anyone knows how to install the USB bootable image with Ubuntu phone SDK installed. I want firstly make a bootable USB stick with another liveusb.  I met a probably to make the bootable disk.
[14:05] <k1l_> gdrizzt: yes, your first issue should be resolved now
[14:06] <gdrizzt> k1l_  thanks a lot!  btw can I remove the other kernels displayed in dpkg -l | grep linux-image  ?
[14:07] <k1l_> gdrizzt: no. you need at least 1 kernel installed to run ubuntu. and 2 kernels to use the recovery. only the ones with ii in front are installed
[14:09] <gdrizzt> k1l_  so, I can remove all but 3 kernels ? I am just asking so I can keep the machine tip top and be able to deal with this on my own in the future. your help has been awesome!
[14:10] <k1l_> gdrizzt: just keep at least 1 kernel. or 2 to run recovery.
[14:10] <gdrizzt> fair enough!
[14:14] <kertg> I have bumblebee installed and Nvidia X Server settings installed ... I am just running Mozilla Firefox but the CPU is at 77 deg C.... I need someone to help me bring the temps down..
[14:17] <metaldog> easy. im trying to do a md5sum on an os iso but it wont let me open it in terminal. what can i do?
[14:17] <mnngfltg2> metaldog, what do you mean "won't let me open"?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> metaldog, open in a terminal?  nothing to open when doing md5sum
[14:18] <metaldog> cant be bothered to punctuate
[14:18] <k1l_> metaldog: just check tho whole iso.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> !details | metaldog, ??? that makes even less sense.
[14:18] <maddawg> what do you need to open to do an md5sum
[14:18] <metaldog> so, what do i do then, cfhowlett
[14:19] <Airbander> Hi
[14:19] <Airbander> any way to change the screen login in xubuntu and thanks
[14:19] <cfhowlett> metaldog, I open nautilus and a terminal.  terminal: md5sum          then I use nautilus to drag and drop the .iso location in the terminal
[14:19] <cfhowlett> Airbander, change to ... what?
[14:19] <maddawg> md5sum <iso name>
[14:20] <kertg> My laptop is running way too hot.... I have a Nvdia Gpu. I have installed Bumblebee and Nvidia XServer. I am just running two instances of FFox but my CPU is at 77 deg C. Please help. Critical situation
[14:20] <Airbander> i want make my pic there
[14:20] <maddawg> metaldog: go to terminal
[14:20] <Airbander> picture*
[14:20] <maddawg> cd into the directory you have the iso in
[14:20] <EriC^^> Airbander: as a background?
[14:20] <TornadoMan> metaldog; see this, http://files.dxham.ru/filestore/77/bin/iso.html
[14:20] <k1l_> Airbander: search for lightdm theme howtos
[14:20] <maddawg> and type... md5sum <isoname.iso>
[14:20] <TornadoMan> metaldog; the solution is quite simple, try it out
[14:20] <Airbander> yep eric
[14:21] <guig33k> escuse me how i reinstall a package with this all dependencies ?
[14:21] <Airbander> ok kil i will
[14:21] <maddawg> Metaldog:  please see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[14:21] <Airbander> is this  folder or file ?
[14:21] <kertg> Somebody help me! My CPU is at 77 deg C.
[14:22] <maddawg> so?
[14:22] <maddawg> that's not that hot
[14:22] <cfhowlett> kertg, turn your computer off.
[14:22] <maddawg> 170 degrees?
[14:22] <maddawg> what kind of computer and what CPU
[14:22] <EriC^^> Airbander: gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter background '/usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png'
[14:22] <TornadoMan> kertg, that can be fixed through http://files.dxham.ru/filestore/77/bin/iso.html
[14:22] <maddawg> my macbook pro runs regularly at like 160 farenheit
[14:23] <ONAK> disable nvidia card and use cpu only
[14:23] <kertg> maddawg: Its too high for a i7 Laptop with 8GB ram running just 2 instances of Ffox and a terminal and Xsensors
[14:23] <EriC^^> Airbander: change /usr/share/background... to whatever background you want
[14:23] <maddawg> oh my precision is running at 150 right now kertg
[14:23] <maddawg> always has run hot
[14:23] <maddawg> it's an i7
[14:23] <EriC^^> Airbander: it has to be .png i think though
[14:23] <maddawg> 16GB of RAM
[14:23] <Airbander> ya thanks i found it
[14:23] <maddawg> with an nvidia dedicated 2000M 2GB GPU
[14:23] <kertg> ONAK Nvidia Xservers shows only Intel is being used
[14:23] <maddawg> with CUDA support
[14:24] <ONAK> can we ban maddawg?
[14:24] <maddawg> what for?
[14:24] <TornadoMan> thrash-talking
[14:24] <guig33k> escuse me how i reinstall a package with this all dependencies ?
[14:24] <maddawg> what? I'm telling him 170 isnt that hot
[14:24] <cfhowlett> guig33k, sudo apt-get install --reinstall package name
[14:24] <cfhowlett> guig33k, note the double - -
[14:25] <guig33k> cfhowlett: yes but it just reinstall the package not the dependencies
[14:25] <EriC^^> Airbander: install dconf-editor go to com canonical unity-greeter there are more options there you can change
[14:25] <maddawg> he asked a question and I'm answering it based on personal experience... it asked what he has because it's an important aspect to answering the question and i was saying in comparison to other machines 170 degrees isnt that hot
[14:25] <kertg> 76deg C ...................CPU high temp= 87 deg C and critical at 105.0 deg C
[14:25] <Airbander> ok thanks
[14:25] <maddawg> see
[14:25] <maddawg> not that hot
[14:25] <kertg> So yes its quite high
[14:25] <maddawg> depends on the cpu
[14:25] <Airbander> EriC^^ what is the command to launch it ?
[14:25] <ONAK> disable nvidia card and use cpu only
[14:25] <EriC^^> Airbander: dconf-editor
[14:25] <ssshvb> how can i copy my home folder if i booted from a live usb   it say  i do not have permition
[14:26] <maddawg> and that isnt neccessarily the CPU temp that is being reported
[14:26] <guig33k> cfhowlett: i want reinstall all the dependencies too
[14:26] <k1l_> kertg: nvidia-prime should be used with optimus cards now. bumblebee is deprecated
[14:26] <maddawg> that is the total temp of the computer
[14:26] <cfhowlett> guig33k, what package?
[14:26] <maddawg> unless your CPU is reporting it's own temp that is
[14:26] <guig33k> wine:i386
[14:26] <Airbander> eric i'm using xubuntu
[14:27] <Airbander> is that will make any problems
[14:27] <kertg> k1l_  I have Nvidia prime too.
[14:27] <EriC^^> Airbander: no i dont think so
[14:27] <gdrizzt> k1l_ so, I did some more kernel removal and this popped up :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8901147/
[14:28] <cfhowlett> guig33k, apt-cache show wine:i386         read through.  the only dependency listed is wine 1.6      easily installed
[14:29] <kertg> k1l_: ONAK: Output for       dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8901176/
[14:29] <xjanec25> [A
[14:29] <kertg> I did the Nvdia Bumblebee stuff ages ago...so i might have installed everything
[14:30] <k1l_> kertg: remove the bumblebee stuff. just use nvidia-prime
[14:30] <kertg> k1l_: i type in sudo apt-get purge bumble-* ??
[14:30] <k1l_> kertg: but take a look what packages it wants to remove with that
[14:31] <k1l_> gdrizzt: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:32] <kertg> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8901238/ Do I proceed?
[14:33] <k1l_> kertg: no
[14:33] <k1l_> just get rid of bumblebee packages. see your package list fo that specific packages
[14:34] <gdrizzt_> k1l_ sorry, but what was the command again ? I dropped off just as you typed
[14:34] <HolyGhost> i have an usb hard drive that has no partition at all. just a big formatted disk. how does trisquel does the recognition? so far it sees two bogus partitions, which are broken, unusable and make about ten times the actual size
 gdrizzt: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:34] <HolyGhost> trisquel is ubuntu 14.04 without the non-libre parts
[14:35] <gdrizzt_> thanks man
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> HolyGhost  trisuel is not supported here
[14:36] <k1l_> gdrizzt_: let the update run through. maybe you need to make a reinstall on the latest kernel because it got incompletly installed because of the full disk issue.
[14:36] <kertg> k1l_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Uninstall Do I follow the instructions here then?
[14:36] <k1l_> kertg: did you install that from a PPA?
[14:36] <gdrizzt_> gottcha running now k1l_ thanks
[14:37] <HolyGhost> MonkeyDust: neither ubuntu 14.04, i see
[14:37] <HolyGhost> thanks
[14:37] <k1l_> kertg: i dont know what your setup is there. i know bumblebee is deprecated and nvidia-prime is the way to go now. remove the bumblebee packages and use only prime now.
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> HolyGhost  type /topic to find out what's supported here
[14:38] <k1l_> HolyGhost: 14.04 is supported. come back when you run a original 14.04 and not a changed one.
[14:38] <kertg> k1l_: I can't find bumblebee ppa in "Other Software" in Software & Updates ... SO no
[14:39] <k1l_> kertg: you gave a list of nvidia and bumblebee packages installed on your system. i would suggest you just remove them. by naming them with apt-get remove
[14:39] <kertg> k1l_ OK
[14:41] <guig33k> plz nobody can say to me how reinstall a package and all this dependencies ?
[14:41] <guest_____> hi. I have a problem with an usb key. It was working fine on Ubuntu 12.04. But now, It is not autmounted on Ubuntu 14.10. I have this in dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/8901336/. It seems misdetected as somthing as a CUMNA/ADFS. wtf !
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> guig33k  sudo apt-get install [package] --reinstall
[14:42] <guig33k> MonkeyDust: this commande line not reinstall dependencies !!!
[14:44] <cfhowlett> guig33k, sudo apt-get purge the package.  then install the package.  all dependencies satisfied.
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> guig33k  what you can try: apt-cache depends [package], see what it shows, then install what you need   <-- workaround
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> guig33k  or what cf suggests
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett*
[14:45] <Airbander> EriC^^: i found it in /lib/plymouth/themes
[14:45] <guig33k> i want be able to reinstall the dependencies purge not uninstall dependencies
[14:45] <kertg> How do i set up Nvidia-Prime?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> guig33k, you asked to install the package and it's dependencies.  that command would do it.
[14:46] <gdrizzt_> k1l_ here's the results from sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade           http://paste.ubuntu.com/8901426/
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> guig33k  don't reject every suggestion, please
[14:47] <guig33k> ok
[14:47] <k1l_> gdrizzt_: looks good
[14:47] <guig33k> purge seems to work
[14:47] <kertg> Do I have to setup Nvidia prime or does it run on its own?
[14:47] <gdrizzt_> k1l_: great man, really awesome
[14:48] <gdrizzt_> saved my butt
[14:48] <redpanda> Hi guys
[14:49] <redpanda> Is there a way to add something like "download folder as zip" on an NGinx index page ?
[14:50] <gdrizzt_> I heard Netflix now supports InstantWatch on Ubuntu without Wine and other tweaks, how do I get it to work ?
[14:51] <compdoc> visit netflix?
[14:51] <gdrizzt_> lol
[14:51] <gdrizzt_> says its not supported
[14:51] <DJones> gdrizzt_: Netflix seems to work fine if you use google chrome (rather than chromium) for me
[14:51] <gdrizzt_> ah! djones, that might be it
[14:51] <gdrizzt_> Will do that
[14:51] <bindi> not really an ubuntu question, feel free to redirect me to a better place.. anyway: which runs better on ubuntu/linux, epsxe or pcsxr?
[14:52] <john_____> What would be the best way to add a shell with screen upon startup?
[14:54] <_unreal_> hello I have this image http://download.geexbox.org/snapshots/geexbox-xbmc-armada5xx-cubox/latest/binaries.cubox/geexbox-devel-20141109-rad5788b.cubox.img.xz its got XZ compression, and i need to DD it to an SDCARD
[14:55] <_unreal_> any one li ve?
[14:56] <Guest47305> _unreal_: Make sure your careful when using dd, choose the sdcard and not any main hard drives. Tripple check with something like gparted to make sure that you're looking at the right drive
[14:56] <Guest47305> then it's just dd  if / of
[14:56] <cfhowlett> _unreal_, what Guest47305 said ...
[14:57] <_unreal_> Guest47305, lsblk is the easy way to check
[14:57] <Guest47305> o
[14:58] <basichash> What is the repo for virtualbox on linux?
[14:58] <guest_____> hi. I have a problem with an usb key. It was working fine on Ubuntu 12.04. But now, It is not autmounted on Ubuntu 14.10. I have this in dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/8901336/. It seems misdetected as something as a CUMANA/ADFS.
[14:58] <cfhowlett> !info virtualbox | basichash
[14:58] <basichash> cfhowlett: thanks
[14:58] <lando> hi all
[14:58] <cfhowlett> basichash, happy2help
[15:03] <EriC^^> _unreal_: you have to unxz first
[15:03] <EriC^^> _unreal_: unxz geexbox-devel-20141109-rad5788b.cubox.img.xz
[15:05] <_unreal_> and how about dding? sdb or sdb1
[15:05] <_unreal_> which is my sdcard
[15:05] <EriC^^> sdb could be the disk, sdb1 could be a partition on the disk
[15:15] <acer12> hello, is it possible to download the current spotify version for ubuntu on my desktop as a backup-version? deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
[15:17] <dwiktor> Hi everyone :D
[15:17] <acer12> can somebody help me please?
[15:19] <wd_> alguém fala português aí?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> !pt | wd_
[15:27] <dwiktor> What did you like or unlike on Ubuntu?
[15:27] <cfhowlett> dwiktor, this is tech support.  your question is better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:27] <dwiktor> ok, sorry
[15:28] <rebelwireless> is there method to do a diff that doesn't care about line order?
[15:29] <rebelwireless> for example, I have two files that are 99% identical, but out of order.  the few differences mean that lines to match and diff basically says the entire file is different, though it's definitely very similar.
[15:33] <enzotib> rebelwireless, diff <(sort file1) <(sort file2)
[15:34] <rebelwireless> enzotib, doesn't work properly.  I think I have a grep solution though.
[15:35] <enzotib> rebelwireless, what do you mean by "doesn't work properly"?
[15:36] <enzotib> syadnom, ^^
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> enzotib  try rev [some text file]
[15:39] <enzotib> MonkeyDust, I was proposing a solution, I have no problem, and I don't think "rev" could be a solution in the probem at hand
[15:39] <syadnom> enzotib, I mean that because of the few changes, the lines in the file are not on the same line numbers. I have 4000 lines per file and if I remove line 3 from the first file and line 5 from the second, diff spits out almost 8000 lines of change.
[15:40] <enzotib> syadnom, with a simple diff or with my command?
[15:40] <syadnom> either, the sort isn't the issue
[15:40] <enzotib> syadnom, try the -d option to diff
[15:40] <oeri> does anyone know a program that will go "between" a USB device and a program i'm running for purposes of capturing what data is sent back and forth? eventually i want to try to emulate a usb device by writing a script that sends back preprogrammed responses depending upon what gets sent to it, and i think this would be a good way to sniff the data.  unless anyone has any other ideas...?
[15:40] <oeri> perhaps mkfifo in some way?
[15:41] <enzotib> syadnom, -d "Try hard to find a smaller set of changes"
[15:41] <syadnom> still, same
[15:41] <Latrina> good evening..
[15:42] <Latrina> I heard next ubuntu slogan is gonna be like
[15:42] <syadnom> https://pastee.org/9h24a
[15:42] <jojoa1997> When i run "sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/$JAVA_VER/bin/java" 1" it says there is no alternative to update. I have not installed java on it before so what do i do?
[15:43]  * Latrina Ubuntu, Linux for homosexual being
[15:43] <Latrina> if thats the case. Plus one on it :)
[15:44] <b12> do i get all security updates when i install "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer "?
[15:45] <andrej_> ttf-mscorefonts-installer  not Work
[15:46] <syadnom> grep -vxFf file1 file2 seems to work well.
[15:46] <b12> do i get all security updates when i install "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer "?
[15:47] <b12> i mean all flash security updates when i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[15:47] <kostkon> b12, for flash 12.x, yes
[15:48] <enzotib> b12, flash plugin is still at 11.2 for what I know
[15:48] <kostkon> 11.2.x my bad
[15:49] <trijntje> my nfs share doesnt get mounted during boot, but when I do sudo mount -a it gets mounted without error. What could be going on?
[15:49] <kostkon> b12, 11.2.x is supported by Adobe until 2017
[15:49] <b12> @kostkon: so this means i dont get updates security updates that are included in version 15.x?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  add the nfs share to fstab
[15:51] <b12> or does it mean that i have all securtiy updates that windows user get with flash 15.x?
[15:51] <kostkon> b12, flashplugin-installer gives you 11.2.x so you get the security updates for that version
[15:51] <enzotib> b12, you can use chrome or chromium+pepperflashplugin
[15:51] <trijntje> MonkeyDust: I already did that, thats why mount -a mounts it
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  true
[15:51] <kostkon> b12, Adobe supports 11.2.x with security updates until 2017
[15:52] <b12> ok, so this means i can use the flashpluggin installer until 2017 without worrying about unfixed security issues?
[15:52] <kostkon> b12, true
[15:52] <b12> ok thx
[15:52] <miistx> salve a tutti
[16:01] <Esor> silencce wow
[16:01] <azus> Hi Everybody
[16:01] <l0rdn1x> yo
[16:02] <NoOova_> Hello! Which sega genesis emulator i could use with ubuntu 14.10 x64?
[16:03] <superbu> hello can anyone help me?
[16:03] <tyrog> NoOova_: dgen
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> superbu  let's hear it
[16:05] <superbu> When i close the lid of my laptop, and open it, it stops at blank screen
[16:05] <superbu> @MonkeyDust
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> superbu  what happens when you close the lid? suspend? hibernate? or you don't know
[16:06] <superbu> I dont know. But i have to hard reboot. MonkeyDust
[16:07] <superbu> MonkeyDust?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> superbu  i guess the laptop has wake from suspend, after you closed the lid
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> superbu  find out what happens when you close it
[16:09] <superbu> It says suspend. MonkeyDust
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> superbu  so that's it, wake from suspend... you need enough swap for it to work propoerly
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> superbu  or disable swap and change it to "do nothing" or so
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> disable suspend ^^^^
[16:10] <superbu> Swap is 10 gb. RAM is 4 GB. MonkeyDust. Isnt hat enough?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> superbu  yes, that should do... odd
[16:11] <superbu> OK. Thanks for your time. MonkeyDust.
[16:13] <l0rdn1x> Just add your RAM together to decide swap space.
[16:13] <guig33k> don t understand i was with the proprietary fglrx driver and now it has switch on the open source driver and impossible to be again on the proprietary when i select him it switch on the open source driver
[16:13] <guig33k> start to be boring
[16:13] <l0rdn1x> you got 4GB, add another 4 oh that's 8 lol,  you got 8GB add another 8 oh that's 16
[16:15] <superbu> Anyone here who can help me?
[16:16] <sacarlson1> oeri wireshark will record trafic on usb bus
[16:17] <superbu> anyone?
[16:19] <asdofindia> superbu, have you installed different login managers, is this a fresh install, can you tell anything ?
[16:20] <superbu> I am having a multi boot with win 8. It is a fresh install. I dont know about login managers. asdofindia. Are yu from india?
[16:21] <sacarlson1> trijntje: sounds like it tries to mount NFS before network is stable you might find a work around by adding delay in /etc/init.d or /etc/init script that starts it or fix the script to be sure network is up first
[16:22] <superbu> The only external software i have installed is this xchat gnome which i did just now. asdofindia
[16:23] <asdofindia> superbu, do you hear hard disk whirring up when you open the lid? are the laptop lights on?
[16:23] <trijntje> sacarlson1: that seems like a pretty bad hack for such a simple problem. There should be a normal way to do this right? I dont want to edit a bunch of scripts on every PC I have just to be able to use nfs
[16:24] <sacarlson1> trijntje: the /etc/init script should tie to /etc/network/interface scripts to be sure it's up before nfs mount
[16:24] <sacarlson1> trijntje: you would have to look at them to find out
[16:24] <superbu> asdofindia. Laptop lights are on But no disk whirring
[16:25] <superbu> asdofindia. Wait when i think about it, i think i hear it.
[16:26] <sacarlson1> trijntje: look in /etc/network/if-up.d  to see if anything to do with nfs mount is present if not add it
[16:26] <asdofindia> okay superbu . means it's going to suspend. and trying to wake up. (And getting frozen halfway, according to what you said)
[16:27] <superbu> asdofindia. So what should i do? Is there anyway i can repair it?
[16:27] <trijntje> sacarlson1: add what? I dont understand why I need to edit stuf when it used to work by just adding the nfs to fstab
[16:27] <sacarlson1> trijntje: same but that redhat has https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1027114
[16:27] <asdofindia> well superbu, the easy way out would be to just set it to do nothing when you close laptop lid. (I wouldn't be satisfied with that if it was my laptop, though)
[16:28] <sacarlson1> trijntje: you want me to write the script for you?
[16:28] <sacarlson1> but = bug
[16:28] <superbu> asdofindia. I wont get satisfied either. Is there any other way?
[16:29] <trijntje> sacarlson1: no, I could write a script myself, its just weird that I suddenly have this issue with nfs
[16:30] <asdofindia> superbu, try isolating your problem. suspend manually and see if that wakes fine?
[16:30] <superbu> ok. asdofindia
[16:30] <NeoID> hi there.. I'm currently looking at beaglebone as it supports ubuntu and OTG usb. Is there a way to present a iscsi as a read-only disk over OTG?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> what's OTG?
[16:31] <Airbander> how run a image in terminal console and thanks
[16:31] <NeoID> MonkeyDust, "USB On-The-Go"
[16:32] <NeoID> like some android devices have... it can act as a device when plugged into a PC, not just a host
[16:32] <sacarlson1>  Airbander might you mean how do I display an image from the command line?
[16:32] <NeoID> I'm looking at drivedroid witch makes it possible to present iso-files as a usb or cd-rom device on android...
[16:32] <Airbander> sacarlson1 nope i want run image in console
[16:32] <Airbander> i mean command line
[16:33] <sacarlson1> Airbander: what kind of image?  script?  bash? ruby? binary?......
[16:34] <Airbander> photo
[16:34] <Airbander> there is a image made from script and bash ?
[16:34] <sacarlson1> Airbander: you don't run photos you display them as images
[16:34] <b12> how can i switch an active windows (e.g. firefox) to desktop 2?
[16:34] <Airbander> ah ok
[16:34] <b12> with what shortcut
[16:34] <superbu> asdofindia. Are you still there?
[16:34] <trijntje> Airbander: use xdg-open
[16:34] <asdofindia> superbu, no I quit
[16:35] <superbu> The manual suspend didnt work. asdofindia
[16:35] <asdofindia> superbu, ah. now you have bigger problems than what you were thinking :P
[16:36] <superbu> What is the problem?asdofindia.
[16:36] <Airbander> thanks trijntje
[16:36] <asdofindia> superbu, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelHibernate dunno if that's the same as suspend
[16:37] <SchrodingersScat> b12: wmctrl -r Firefox -t 1
[16:37] <superbu> Also  computer asks to send an error report. asdofindia
[16:37] <asdofindia> superbu, sorry. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[16:38] <b12> @schrodingersscat: i remember using a shortcut like strg shift or tab and using the arrow keys. but i dont remember the key combination (short cut)
[16:38] <b12> now i got it: it was ctrl + alt + shift + arrow key right/left
[16:39] <metaldog> easy. ubuntu will only let me run bootable usbs that are ubuntu or lubuntu. can i make bootable usb by using terminal?
[16:39] <asdofindia> ctrl+alt+win+shift+prtscrn+right+enter
[16:40] <Miau> Hello everyone, something weird happened to my Ubuntu, when I accessed it, nothing appears in the desktop, just the background and my mouse. What's happening?
[16:40] <asdofindia> metaldog, what do you mean "run"? unetbootin?
[16:41] <Miau> It was working normally yesterday, but out of sudden, my desktop disappeared.
[16:42] <metaldog> i have made several bootable usbs by using unetbootin, startup disk creator (both versions) and the only ones that will boot are ubuntu and lubuntu. i need to get a slax usb working and a peppermint usb working as they are to be used on other systems
[16:43] <metaldog> so im wondering if bootable usbs can be made in terminal
[16:44]  * MinosOfGaming waits for someone to say something
[16:44] <Guest25742> how do i disable swap in order tgo adjust a partition
[16:44] <metaldog> somethhing
[16:44] <SchrodingersScat> metaldog: I normally use dd for that, but some people have issues with that sometimes, use at your own risk
[16:45] <metaldog> use what at my own risk?
[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> !info dd | metaldog
[16:45]  * MinosOfGaming trying to install windows 7
[16:45] <sacarlson1> Miau: I'm not sure but you might eather create a new user and login to it and see if it has the same problem.  or you can temp rename your /home/user directory and create a blank directory in it's place and login to that.  I assume some graphic setup files got mest up
[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> !info coreutils | metaldog
[16:46] <metaldog> now i am lost.
[16:46] <wzikaer> hi
[16:46] <SchrodingersScat> metaldog: well, there's this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/  dd can indiscriminately put data on devices
[16:46] <Lucax> hello ubuntees, trying to install a program using pip install, then I get this: "Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement build" and No distributions at all found for build
[16:46] <Lucax> Storing debug log for failure in /home/lucax/.pip/pip.log
[16:46] <sacarlson1> Miau: the creation of a new user will put a fresh copy of default template into the new user that should work.  if not then I'm totally wrong
[16:47] <metaldog> ok, thanks. will check it out
[16:47]  * MinosOfGaming is waiting for DBAN to finish
[16:47] <Lucax> anyone any clue. I tried to look in the docu doesnt shine the light on the right spot for me
[16:47] <SchrodingersScat> !details | Lucax
[16:49] <Lucax> dont know if I can be more specific than this :)
[16:49] <Miau> sacarlson1: Well, I tried to access with the Guest user, but the same thing happens...
[16:49] <sacarlson1> Miau: ah then I must be wrong.  it would not likly happen to 2 users at the same time
[16:50] <sacarlson1> Miau: then some other change has taken place like maybe an update or ??
[16:50] <Miau> sacarlson1: And none of my commands work (ctrl+alt+T) for example
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> Lucax: well, all I get from what you said is that some pip thing failed to install, we don't have the command you used or what you were trying to install.
[16:51] <sacarlson1> Miau: ctrl + alt + f2 work?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> Miau  I have that too, in ubuntu 3D ... works normally in 2D ... it's opengl related, i guess
[16:51] <Miau> sacarlson1: Well, I just turned on my computer and this happened, out of sudden. :c
[16:52] <sacarlson1> MonkeyDust: so how does Miau switch back to 2d?
[16:52] <Miau> sacarlson1: Well, at least this terminal works
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> sacarlson1  Miau logaout, switch login
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> sacarlson1  Miau logout, switch, login
[16:53] <sacarlson1> MonkeyDust: so it's a login option for 2d?
[16:53] <Miau> MonkeyDust: I restarted my computer, I'm in the login section right now
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> Miau  try ctrl-alt-del to logout <-- hope it's not disabled
[16:54] <Miau> MonkeyDust: It was disabled, unfortunately, so I restarted my PC (sorry if I'm typing so slow, I'm using my cellphone :c)
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> Miau  no problem, i read slow
[16:58] <Miau> MonkeyDust: So... Any suggestion of what I should do? Every time I log in my user (and guest user), this happens. :c
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> Miau  no, i have the same problem, couldnt solve it, it's opengl related ... when i use xserver-xorg-lts-precise, i have that problem ... when i use xserver-xorg-lts-trusty, I don't have that problem, but then my laptop heats up rapidly and shuts down
[17:04] <Miau> MonkeyDust: Should I start my Ubuntu in recovery mode or something?
[17:06]  * LordDevom waits
[17:06] <Miau> MonkeyDust: Oh, I see, yesterday I was testing the other available drivers for my graphics card, but then I switched back to the one I was always using
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> Miau  sounds similar
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> Miau  FYI: 12.04.5 here
[17:09] <Miau> MonkeyDust: I was testing which driver could run Team Fortress 2, but none of them were able to run it, so I switched back to the driver I was already using
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Miau  try and switch to ubuntu 2D, see if that's helpful/useful
[17:11] <cybrhuman> Miau: you log into uinty and only the background shows up? no toolbars or top bar?
[17:11] <Miau> MonkeyDust: Well, I updated my Ubuntu to 14.04 recently, but it was working fine yesterday
[17:12] <Miau> cybrhuman: Hello! Yeah, everything disappeared this time
[17:13] <alitaha> hi
[17:13] <kostkon> Miau, and you have already tried to reset unity/compiz
[17:13] <Miau> No toolbar and top bar, neither right click or commands to access terminal, like ctrl+alt+T
[17:13] <kostkon> alitaha, hi
[17:14] <cybrhuman> Miau: just checing you now have 2 computers in front of you right?
[17:14] <linuxkathirvel_> i am a coreldraw user in windows. any alternative available equal to coreldraw in ubuntu?
[17:15] <Miau> kostkon: I'm sorry for asking that but... How do I do that?
[17:15] <cybrhuman> Miau: resetting compiz is done with the same trick as yesterday
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> kostkon  i tried resetting unity/compiz, i always get "core dumped", iven after reinstalling compiz-core
[17:15] <vros> hi!
[17:15] <kostkon> MonkeyDust, ok
[17:15] <Miau> cybrhuman: Unfortunate, I'm using my cellphone to access this irc
[17:16] <cybrhuman> Miau: kk, on your computer, press ctrl+alt+1
[17:16] <cybrhuman> then hit a few random keys
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> linuxkathirvel_: I can only offer this websites suggestions of what may be similar, I see inkscape on there, http://alternativeto.net/software/corel-draw/?license=free&platform=linux
[17:16] <Miau> cybrhuman: Hmm... Right, just a sec
[17:17] <cybrhuman> Miau: that should wake up a login prompt with only text.
[17:17] <linuxkathirvel_> Thanks SchrodingersScat.
[17:19] <Miau> cybrhuman: Ayup, I logged in, so all I have to do is to use the same command from yesterday, right?
[17:20] <gdrizzt> Hello, since upgrading I can't mount an external harddrive, it doesn't even show in the home folder, help ?
[17:20] <cybrhuman> Miau: yes "dconf reset -f /org/compiz" if you need to refresh your memory
[17:21] <vros> whas anything changed with unworked drivers for bluetooth's?
[17:22] <gdrizzt> Anybody ? ;_;
[17:22] <Miau> cybrhuman: Something showed up here, "error: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without x11 display"
[17:23] <vros> sudo mount sdb)
[17:23] <gdrizzt> vros, did was that for me ?
[17:23] <gdrizzt> I am new to ubuntu.
[17:24] <cybrhuman> Miau: okay, do DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal then ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to graphical where a terminal should be waiting for you, then run the command there
[17:24] <Miau> cybrhuman: I tried to use sudo su to log in as root, but the same error shows up
[17:25] <vros> gdrizzt, search on that way. You will find it!
[17:25] <vros> Miau, nvidia's drivers broken?
[17:26] <linuxkathirvel> Which one is alternative to Dream Weaver (web authoring too) in ubuntu?
[17:26] <cybrhuman> vros: seems more like a compiz/unity issue
[17:26] <gdrizzt> I have been trying all morning *hangs head* it recognizes all my other hard drives but one that has most of my work in it, I suspect it was because it was used on windows to begin with
[17:26] <Miau> cybrhuman, Ahh yeah, the terminal showed up in the desktop
[17:27] <cybrhuman> Miau: try rerunning the dconf command there.
[17:27] <Miau> cybrhuman: Alright, just a sec
[17:28] <packetscaper> Hello
[17:28] <Miau> cybrhuman: Done, now... What was the next command again? :P
[17:29] <djamboe> helooo :D
[17:29] <packetscaper> Quick question can samba 4 join a windows AD ?
[17:29] <Glda19> how its it the best way to partion my ssd 128 gb and my 1tb hdd
[17:30] <vros> Does 'gnome-desktop3-data'  install complete Gnome?
[17:30] <cybrhuman> Miau: now you should only need to log in again, or restart unity, "setsid unity" seems to be the command now.
[17:31] <vros> Glda19, /home to hdd, others to ssd
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  i have the same problem as Miau , always getting "segmentation fault, core dumped
[17:32] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust: from what command?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  the commands you suggested here, dconf reset... and unity setsid
[17:32] <linuxkathirvel> alternative to dream weaver in ubuntu?
[17:32] <Glda19> vros can you tel me how to partion when i let ubunto do it i see 1 big and a swap
[17:32] <Miau> cybrhuman: Uh oh... Tons of error messages appeared, they all end with this message "compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded."
[17:32] <linuxkathirvel> Which is the best IDE for PHP in ubuntu?
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> linuxkathirvel  kompozer is the closest, the whole community is hoping for adobe to port to linux
[17:33] <Guest6259> laalla
[17:33] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust: both of them?
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  yes
[17:34] <vros> linuxkathirvel, ... that IDE you develop)
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> linuxkathirvel  macromedia, that is
[17:34] <cybrhuman> Miau: oh, try running "ccsm", that failing "sudo apt-get install ccsm", then run ccsm
[17:35] <linuxkathirvel> Best IDE for PHP?
[17:36] <thecha> hi i am on a ubuntu 14 how do i update openttd from cli ?
[17:36] <thecha> cli= command line interface
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> thecha  14.04 or 14.10 ?
[17:36] <linuxkathirvel> MonkeyDust macromedia means?
[17:36] <thecha> 14.04
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> linuxkathirvel  it's the company that creates dreamweaver
[17:37] <Miau> cybrhuman: Well, I tried to install, but it's saying "Impossible to find ccsm package" (I literally translated it, because it's in another language)
[17:37] <linuxkathirvel> MonkeyDust ok. i understood
[17:37] <linuxkathirvel> MonkyDust another one question?
[17:39] <cybrhuman> Miau: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager then run ccsm
[17:39] <cybrhuman> Miau: the command and package name is different for those it seems -.-
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  having the same isse, i'm unable to check opengl in ccsm
[17:40] <vros> gays! how to install Blusoleil on Kubuntu 12.04? Or other once that worked.
[17:40] <linuxkathirvel> my friend is system admin, who is using norton host for backup, now he is switched to ubuntu due to my guidence. my friend as any backup tool available in Open Source as norton host.? please guide me
[17:40] <Miau> cybrhuman: Done! It's working. :3
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> Miau  you're more lucky than me!
[17:41] <kevindf> What would be the best way to add a shell on startup everytime pc restarts?
[17:42] <cybrhuman> Miau: you got unity working again?
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> kevindf  add it to thre startup programs
[17:43] <linuxkathirvel> what is the best IDE for PHP in ubuntu?
[17:43] <Miau> MonkeyDust: Oh, I'm sorry about it... <:c
[17:43] <vros> kevindf, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 after startup
[17:44] <tafa2> guys, im trying to backup some folders using tar, but it seems to fill up my RAM in the process and not releasing when completed. Is there any of avoiding this or making sure tar free's up memory when its done?
[17:44] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust: what you do in ccsm?
[17:45] <azashog> Hi all. I'm running Virtual Machine Manager / KVM with some distros and the VNC display is extremely slow. Anything to speed that up? Also, the generally the 14.04 UI feels extremely sluggish with apps taking ages to start up, but otherwise the system is working fine. Ain't a weak machine either, AMD Phenom X2 w/ 4GB RAM
[17:45] <cybrhuman> Miau: you deselected opengl or what?
[17:45] <Miau> cybrhuman: Well, not really, but a program here opened up (which is ccsm I guess)
[17:45] <cybrhuman> Miau: search for opengl there
[17:46] <vros> linuxkathirvel, 1 vote about eclipse
[17:46] <Glda19> how can is it better to make a boot partion and a root
[17:46] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust: can you try to turn off all effects in ccsm?
[17:46] <Glda19> is it better to make a boot partion and a root
[17:46] <Miau> cybrhuman: Right, I found it
[17:47] <cybrhuman> Glda19: just install everything on the SSD and worry about optimal use later
[17:47] <ikonia> tafa2: how are you assesing that it's filling up your ram and not releasing
[17:47] <tafa2> free -m
[17:47] <tafa2> and its the only thing runnung
[17:47] <ikonia> tafa2: thats not really a test
[17:47] <tafa2> *running
[17:47] <tafa2> its a completely fresh instance
[17:47] <tafa2> with nothing on it
[17:47] <tafa2> no gui nothing
[17:47] <vros> gays! how to install Blusoleil on Kubuntu 12.04? Or other once that worked.
[17:47] <ikonia> tafa2: show me the output
[17:48] <ikonia> tafa2: (use a pastebin please)
[17:48] <Glda19> cybrhuman i wan't to do it wrigt now
[17:48] <gdrizzt> monkeydust could you help me with and external hdd issue ?
[17:49] <Miau> cybrhuman: About if I deactivated it, I don't know, I just logged in my Ubuntu, and it was like that, no toolbar or anything. <:c
[17:49] <cybrhuman> Glda19: you have been talking for 2 days and received several good partitioning schemes and you have still not installed: just install it and worry later
[17:49] <Glda19> Cyberhuman
[17:50] <Glda19> Cyberhuman i worry now not later i don't want to change the system later is not my pc but a work pc
[17:50] <Miau> Well, I checked here to active opengl, it seems it got deactivated, somehow
[17:51] <Glda19> cybrhuman did i have to make a extend partion and then in that partion / boot en /root
[17:51] <cybrhuman> Miau: you want to disable as much as possible, not enable it
[17:51] <Miau> cybrhuman: oops, I forgot to add your nickname with the message, sorry.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> gdrizzt  no sorry
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  disabled effects, not better
[17:52] <cybrhuman> Glda19: you have to install it, it isn't important exactly how you partition it, just install it as default.
[17:52] <Miau> cybrhuman: o-oh, okay, unchecking it
[17:52] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust and Miau: do you have a unity-2d login option?
[17:52] <Guest6259> scusate mi sapreste dire che comando devo usare una volta scricato il pacchetto e scompattato per installarlo sul sistema operativo
[17:53] <Glda19> cyberman no how do i have to make the partion
[17:53] <ikonia> !it | Guest6259
[17:53] <joshumax> Hi, I was curious as to what criteria a package would need to be bundled with the LiveCD
[17:53] <tafa2> ikonia http://pastebin.com/gi5HejBu
[17:53] <cybrhuman> Glda19: you click okay on the suggestion from the installer.
[17:53] <ikonia> tafa2: you have less than 500mb of ram ?
[17:53] <joshumax> *need to meet
[17:53] <gdrizzt> anybody willing to help ? all external drives are recognized except this one, I know it seems like a simple issue but it's been eluding me in the forums all day im new to ubuntu
[17:54] <tafa2> ikonia its a VPS yes
[17:54] <vros> gays! how to install Blusoleil (on 9.10 it was free pack for bluetooth dongle)on Kubuntu 12.04? Or other once that worked.
[17:54] <timbo_> My Grub is no good and I can't fix it. I have VMWare Player with Windows installed. Do I reinstall to the device-mapper(linear) 995K MB or straight to the 1 TB HD?
[17:54] <azashog> gdrizzt: what drive?
[17:54] <Glda19> cyberman stop it that is not what i'm asking
[17:54] <ikonia> tafa2: show me the output of uname -a please
[17:54] <DarkLinkXXXX> How can I install Ubuntu when I have blank CD's, but no DVD's?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  yes, 2d works fine, just not 3d
[17:54] <vros> how to install Blusoleil (on 9.10 it was free pack for bluetooth dongle)on Kubuntu 12.04? Or other once that worked.
[17:54] <Miau> cybrhuman: Well... I'm not sure, I simply login when Ubuntu starts (Sorry, I'm kinda new to Ubuntu and Linux in general)
[17:55] <EriC^^> DarkLinkXXXX: you can use the minimal cd
[17:55] <gdrizzt> azahog I have an external hdd which unlike all others isn't even showing up in the home folder, though, it works fine in the windows machine
[17:55] <DarkLinkXXXX> EriC^^, Okay. Then how do I install the full distribution from there?
[17:55] <NoahYdr> Hey, I have a problem with ubuntu.
[17:55] <azashog> gdrizzt: what does dmesg say about it when you plug it in?
[17:55] <EriC^^> !minimalcd | DarkLinkXXXX
[17:55] <tafa2> ikonia 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu
[17:56] <ikonia> tafa2: that's not the output of uname -a
[17:56] <ikonia> tafa2: please show me the output of uname -a
[17:56] <alegria> hey
[17:56] <NoahYdr> Im running ubuntu on a Windows 8.1 VM using briged network. I am getting error messages on startup and cant ssh to it.
[17:56] <alegria> hey can i ask a question?
[17:56] <tafa2> only thing ommited on there ikonia is 64 bit and the date, time and hostname
[17:56] <tafa2> so not sure why u need those
[17:56] <joshumax> algeria: maybe
[17:56] <NoahYdr> Someone?
[17:56] <ikonia> tafa2: I won't be helping any more
[17:56] <azashog> NoahYdr: are you going to pastebin the message somewhere or do I go fetch my crystal ball?
[17:56] <alegria> hahaha
[17:57] <alegria> how can i add servers?
[17:57] <ikonia> alegria: servers to what ?
[17:57] <tafa2> alegria to what?
[17:57] <NoahYdr> Ok, it is many errors........
[17:57] <EriC^^> alegria: you mean ppa?
[17:57] <azashog> NoahYdr: use a pastebin service, don't paste herre
[17:58] <timbo_> Can anyone help? Running Ubuntu 14.04 My Grub is no good and I can't fix it. I have VMWare Player with Windows installed. Do I reinstall to the device-mapper(linear) 995K MB or straight to the 1 TB HD?
[17:58] <gdrizzt> azashog, Im new to ubuntu, so I don't really know what you mean, but I typed dmesg to command and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8904154/
[17:58] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust: can you instruct Miau how to log into unity-2d?
[17:58] <joshumax> Sorry about the repost, but I was curious as to what criteria a package would need to meet to be bundled with the LiveCD
[17:59] <alegria> i mean for having more channels
[17:59] <azashog> gdrizzt: if that last /dev/sdb1 set of messages is relevant to your disk, then it looks like the kernel is recognizing it, so what's the problem? What is on that hdd? What kind of partition is that?
[17:59] <alegria> not just the official support channel
[17:59] <ikonia> alegria: /join #channel_name
[17:59] <ikonia> alegria: /join #channel_name
[17:59] <Miau> cybrhuman and MonkeyDust: I'm sorry for all the trouble guys... <:c
[17:59] <alegria> thanks ikonia
[18:00] <alegria> ill give it a try
[18:00] <gdrizzt> azashog, the disk doesn't show up in the home folder, the disk is just files, mostly from my old windows machine from work
[18:00] <timbo_> gdrizzt: was that message for me?
[18:01] <gdrizzt> azashog is helping me timbo_ thanks man
[18:01] <timbo_> oh ok. sounded like part of my question...
[18:01] <azashog> gdrizzt: what partition or filesystem type is that?
[18:02] <gdrizzt> azashog, how can I find out ?
[18:02] <mrkirby153> Is there a way I can recover from accidentally deleting /etc/ssl/certs without reinstalling?
[18:02] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: you can try testdisk
[18:03] <EriC^^> i guess
[18:03] <mrkirby153> What do you mean? and how do I use?
[18:03] <azashog> gdrizzt: also does a disk icon appear in the launcher when you plug in the disk?
[18:03] <mrkirby153> EriC^^
[18:03] <gdrizzt> azashog, not at all no icon
[18:03] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[18:03] <gdrizzt> it appears then dissapears
[18:03] <mrkirby153> then?
[18:04] <mrkirby153> EriC^^,
[18:04] <azashog> gdrizzt: can you mount it manually? eg. sudo mkdir /mnt/usbdisk && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbdisk
[18:04] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: sudo testdisk
[18:04] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: select your hdd
[18:05] <mrkirby153> Ummmmmmm
[18:05] <mrkirby153> no harddisk found
[18:05] <squinty> gdrizzt:  might want to check to see if it listed in Disks (look in software center )  if listed you can also mount it from there
[18:05] <cybrhuman> Miau: no worries, I have been there myself :P
[18:06] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: what does sudo parted -l say?
[18:06] <mrkirby153> command not found. this is a VM btw
[18:07] <gdrizzt> squinty, I will give it a shot, meanwhile, I tried to mount it mannually and got this message, azashog:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8904305/
[18:07] <cybrhuman> Miau: do you know how to choose login session?
[18:08] <mrkirby153> EriC^^
[18:08] <Miau> cybrhuman: You mean, by using terminal?
[18:08] <timbo_> Can anyone help my Grub is no good and I can't fix it. I have VMWare Player with Windows installed. Do I reinstall to the dev/mapper(linear) ext4  995K MB or straight to the 1 TB HD?
[18:08] <gdrizzt> squinty, thanks man, I did find it in Disks
[18:08] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: sudo parted -l
[18:08] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: not found?
[18:09] <mrkirby153> yes
[18:09] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: type echo $PATH
[18:09] <cybrhuman> Miau: no, you can have several graphical sessions install and choose which one to use
[18:09] <azashog> gdrizzt: so, mounted?
[18:09] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: are you using ubuntu?
[18:09] <mrkirby153> yes
[18:09] <EriC^^> ok, type echo $PATH
[18:09] <mrkirby153> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[18:09] <mrkirby153>  EriC^^
[18:09] <topdownjimmy> My /etc/fstab file has /dev/sda3 mounting as /, but when I do df, / shows up as /dev/sdb3. Why might this be?
[18:10] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: ok
[18:10] <gdrizzt> yes, it's mounted!  it looks like and its a HPFS/NTFS
[18:10] <gdrizzt> weird it's not showing up in homefolder at all though
[18:10] <gdrizzt> uh
[18:10] <MrElendig> topdownjimmy: you really should use UUID or LABEL instead
[18:10] <topdownjimmy> I have two identical drives (cloned one onto the other with dd) so I think it's having difficulty differentiating them.
[18:10] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: try sudo fdisk  -l
[18:10] <Miau> cybrhuman: w-well... I'm not familiar with this... :c
[18:10] <MrElendig> topdownjimmy: because /dev/sd* names are not reliable between kernel upgrades etc
[18:10] <mtn> timbo_: what does your grub and vmware have to do with each other? are you unable to boot your machine or vmware?
[18:10] <mrkirby153> EriC^^, No output
[18:11] <geoffmcc> Ubuntu seems to run slow on my quad core laptop. Debian runs way better. If I want to stick with Ubuntu should I try gnome-session-flashback, or would something like lubuntu be better?
[18:11] <topdownjimmy> MrElendig: Thanks; unfortunately the UUIDs were copied to a second disk when I cloned with dd, so they appear not to be unique.
[18:11] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: sudo lsblk -f
[18:11] <mrkirby153> no output
[18:11] <MrElendig> topdownjimmy: labels ftw
[18:11] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: try to restart the vm
[18:11] <gimpcoindev_> exit
[18:11] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: something isn't right i guess
[18:11] <MrElendig> topdownjimmy: or PARTUUID/LABEL if you use gpt
[18:11] <cybrhuman> Miau: in the screen where you write your password you can also select session
[18:11] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: type which lsblk
[18:12] <topdownjimmy> MrElendig: Thanks; I don't know anything about that but I'll google around.
[18:12] <azashog> gdrizzt: it's not supposed to show under /home unless you mounted it there manually
[18:12] <mrkirby153> /bin/lsblk EriC^^
[18:12] <cybrhuman> Miau: but I googled a bit and I found something I overlooked, can you bring up ccsm again?
[18:12] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: ok, does the vm use any special hdd or something?
[18:12] <MrElendig> topdownjimmy: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Persistent_block_device_naming
[18:13] <Miau> cybrhuman: Ohh, sure, it's opened here
[18:13] <mrkirby153> I don't think so. How can I check?
[18:13] <cybrhuman> Miau: Search for unity in there
[18:13] <gdrizzt> thats' trippy, I didn't know that azashog because most of my external hdd appear at the dock automatically
[18:13] <mrkirby153> EriC^^
[18:13] <topdownjimmy> MrElendig: Thanks
[18:13] <gdrizzt> so confused
[18:14] <azashog> gdrizzt: "the dock" is not "homefolder"
[18:14] <gdrizzt> *n000000b* @_@
[18:14] <azashog> gdrizzt: home folder is the /home/your_username directory
[18:14] <Miau> cybrhuman: Hmm, right, I found it
[18:14] <timbo_> mtn: when I boot it takes me just to "Grub_".  I'm running Live right now and all my partitions and data are still there. I'm going to choose Install from my Live session.  I want to be sure I choose the right partition and don't lose my VMWare with Windows partition.  I think I should install to the dev/mapper-ubuntu-vg-root ext4. Does that sound right?
[18:14] <cybrhuman> Miau: that is not loaded?
[18:14] <mrkirby153> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8904433/ Here's what "df -aTh" outputs
[18:15] <gdrizzt> I see, wel...how...do I get it to appear in the dock then ? @_@  I feel stupider by the minute
[18:15] <mtn> timbo_: this should help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[18:16] <blueblur112198> Hey, I have a quick question
[18:16] <Miau> cybrhuman: Well, the left part of the window (which says "use this plugin") is unchecked here
[18:16] <blueblur112198> I have the iso to the current LTS version's install
[18:16] <azashog> gdrizzt: no idea, I do all my stuff from command line, I don't rely on bells and whistles of the UI :) But, if it doesn't do automatically, there's a problem. My guess is it wasn't unmounted properly so Ubuntu is refusing to mount it automatically.
[18:16] <blueblur112198> Could I just copy the files from the iso to a USB stick?
[18:16] <blueblur112198> Or would that not work?
[18:16] <timbo_> mtn? so I just want to go to a terminal and type grub - install?
[18:16] <cybrhuman> Miau: load that plugin, save settings and restart unity (setsid unity)
[18:17] <Miau> cybrhuman: So, should I check it?
[18:17] <mrkirby153> EriC^^, can't I copy the ssl certs from another computer?
[18:17] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: type mount | grep /dev/simfs
[18:17] <Miau> cybrhuman: Okay! Just a moment
[18:17] <cybrhuman> Miau: yes.
[18:17] <gdrizzt> azashog, jealous man, Im working on learning as I go, I've made the switch 3 months ago to ubuntu
[18:17] <mrkirby153> EriC^^, Nothing
[18:17] <gdrizzt> Thanks for the help
[18:17] <mtn> timbo_: you read the entire link already? just follow the appropriate steps ;)  you can also use boot repair, which might be easier for you.
[18:18] <azashog> gdrizzt: question, can you mount it from Disks?
[18:18] <azashog> gdrizzt: if you open the file manager, does it show at all?
[18:18] <mrkirby153> Would it be better if i just reinstall EriC^^?
[18:18] <timbo_> mtn: I've tried these steps including Boot Repair and couldn't fix it
[18:19] <EriC^^> mrkirby153: no idea, maybe someone more knowledgeable will shed some light
[18:19] <mrkirby153> I'll just reinstall. Its easier that way
[18:19] <success> where is bash.rc?
[18:19] <success> or .bash.rc
[18:19] <MrElendig> success: no such thing exists
[18:20] <mtn> timbo_: you would need to explain what went wrong if you want anyone to understand what it is you are doing and what is happening. you can paste your info to dpaste.com
[18:20] <MrElendig> did you mean .bashrc?
[18:20] <Miau> cybrhuman: Oh wait, since I can use terminal, I'll use xchat instead of my cellphone, just a moment
[18:20] <success> MrElendig, yes thats it then
[18:20] <Bashing-om> blueblur112198: To make the .iso bootable, one must burn to disk as an "image" . Then the "omage" is created, else one just has the "data" not in a bootable format.
[18:20] <gdrizzt> not at all, doesn't show in files manager, azashog, in fact I can only access it by clicking at the shortcut available in Disks  :NTFS — Mounted at /media/pegasus/. Hack
[18:21] <MrElendig> success: man -P "less -p INVOCATION" bash
[18:21] <Miau> cybrhuman: Much better with keyboard, but back to the topic
[18:21] <timbo_> mtn: sorry never used XCHat before. what can I tell you to help you help me?
[18:21] <cybrhuman> Miau: indeed, didn't think about that :P
[18:21] <topdownjimmy> MrElendig: So, if lsblk -f shows that / is sdb3, I can refer to that partition in fstab by the ID in /dev/disk/by-id?
[18:22] <mtn> timbo_: remember, don't paste here in the channel. what exact command did you try that failed? what was the error message? that would be a good start.
[18:22] <MrElendig> topdownjimmy: don't use that path
[18:22] <topdownjimmy> MrElendig: I actually, in fact, see two IDs pointing to /dev/sdb3 in /dev/disk/by-id
[18:22] <cybrhuman> Miau: load the unity plugin and close ccsm then setsid unity.
[18:22] <topdownjimmy> MrElendig: Oh, ok.
[18:22] <MrElendig> topdownjimmy: just label it and use LABEL=whatever
[18:22] <Miau> cybrhuman: And I can also access firefox to pastebin the message that appears when I type setsid unity
[18:22] <cybrhuman> Miau: oh, great :)
[18:23] <topdownjimmy> MrElendig: Ok cool, I'll try that. Thanks.
[18:23] <dx486> hello! I have installed boinc-client to my VPS (Ubuntu 14.10 64bit). I get "Authorization failure: -155" error when I try to use boinccmd --project_attach command. I have tried to use weak and "regular" account key but it did not help. I am not sure if the bug reported here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/347651 affects me, in any case I installed the dev version mentioned there from a 3rd party repository but nothing changed. Can an
[18:23] <dx486> yone help me here please?
[18:23] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust: have you loaded the unity plugin?
[18:23] <timbo_> mtn: I was installing new memory and the system kept hanging so several times I had to do hard reboots then suddenly on boot it will now only go to a line that says "Grub_"
[18:24] <mtn> timbo_: you said you tried all the steps in the help file and they "didn't work". what steps and what errors? paste to dpaste.com and give us the link.
[18:24] <Miau2> cybrhuman: Uhh, for some reason, setsid unity hide my other xchat window
[18:25] <gdrizzt> azashog: any sugestions ?
[18:25] <azashog> gdrizzt: what does fuser -m /dev/sdb1 say?
[18:25] <timbo_> mtn: when I boot it says  "Minimal Bash-like line editing is supported" then on the next line "Grub_"
[18:26] <Miau2> cybrhuman: But anyway, I closed ccsm and typed setsid unity, but it still looks the same... :c
[18:26] <gdrizzt> azashog says: specified filesname  does not exist
[18:26] <mtn> timbo_: and what step is it in the link I gave you that gives you that result? are you reading what I am typing?
[18:26] <timbo_> mtn: I'd have to reboot into Boot Repair to run it again
[18:26] <Glda19> can some tell me what the use is of a ext4journaling filesystem
[18:26] <cybrhuman> Miau2: hmm, strange, can you try log out and in again then ?
[18:27] <cybrhuman> "pkill unity" will work.
[18:27] <Miau2> cybrhuman: You mean, logout my user and re-enter it?
[18:27] <azashog> Glda19: what use is of NTFS?
[18:27] <timbo_> mtn: http://dpaste.com/3E71PQX
[18:27] <cybrhuman> Miau2: yes
[18:27] <timbo_> mtn: that is the result of my fdisk -l
[18:27] <Miau2> cybrhuman: Well... Since the top bar is missing, I can't do that, unless there's a command for that for terminal
[18:28] <Bashing-om> !details Glda19
[18:28] <cybrhuman> Miau2: "pkill unity" a bit hacky but it should log you out very forcefully
[18:28] <Bashing-om> !details | Glda19
[18:28] <Miau2> cybrhuman: Hmm, alright, just a moment
[18:29] <Glda19> azashog i didn't explane me write what is the difference between ext4 and ext4journaling filesytem
[18:29] <Miau2> cybrhuman: Uhh... I typed pkill unity, but I'm still here :P
[18:29] <azashog> Glda19: ext4 IS a journaling filesystem, so I don't get it what you mean.
[18:29] <EriC^^> Miau2: try sudo service lightdm restart
[18:29] <Miau2> cybrhuman: The visual of the windows changed though
[18:29] <cybrhuman> Miau2: compiz --replace ?
[18:30] <EriC^^> ( that'll take you to the display manager )
[18:30] <EriC^^> Miau2: are you trying to reset unity?
[18:30] <mtn> azashog: Glda19 has been asking amazingly basic questions about formatting for days over on the linuxmint channel :P
[18:30] <timbo_> mtn: sorry if I'm frustrating you.  I don't mean to.
[18:30] <alegria> hey
[18:30] <timbo_> mtn: I really appreciate you're trying to help
[18:30] <azashog> mtn: I suppose google is broken for him/her :D
[18:31] <gdrizzt> I give up, X_X
[18:31] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: something like that was what he was trying to fix, seems that unity plugin was not loaded.
[18:31] <mtn> azashog: I think it is just too hard to read and think for themself :)
[18:31] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: oh ok
[18:31] <azashog> mtn: :)
[18:31] <EriC^^> Miau: setsid unity resets unity
[18:32] <EriC^^> Miau: is unity working?
[18:32] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: setsid unity asks unity to replace itself and that way use new settings, isn't it?
[18:32] <timbo_> mtn: based on that dpaste where do I reinstall ubuntu?
[18:33] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: it resets it, loads it again
[18:33] <Miau> EriC^^: Well, not really, I'm back to my cellphone because there's only this blinking underline on the top left of the screen, I'll probably restart my computer
[18:34] <EriC^^> Miau: try the guest account
[18:34] <Foxtrot88> hi, anyone knows a group for C lenguage??
[18:34] <cybrhuman> Foxtrot88: group?
[18:34] <EriC^^> Miau: if it works then it's a config problem
[18:34] <DJones> Foxtrot88: I think its ##c
[18:34] <Foxtrot88> Thanks DJones :D
[18:36] <Miau> EriC^^: Well, still the same, no toolbar and top bar with Guest user
[18:36] <EriC^^> Miau: ok, how did this happen?
[18:36] <jct64> is there an audio mixer/controller for xfce4?
[18:37] <Miau> EriC^^: I simply logged in today and it was like that, out of sudden
[18:37] <EriC^^> Miau: which kernel are you using?
[18:37] <cybrhuman> Miau: unity-2d seems to be something to check now.
[18:37] <Miau> EriC^^: Yesterday was working fine
[18:37] <EriC^^> Miau: uname -r
[18:37] <flavio> ftjtyjtj
[18:37] <jct64> i can't control my volume without unity indicators panel
[18:38] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: unity 2d doesn't exist anymore i think
[18:38] <flavio> hjtyitjhgj
[18:38] <cybrhuman> Miau: didn't you play with graphics drivers?
[18:38] <jct64> i have a panel configured for xfce that has only a whisker menu.
[18:38] <jct64> and a clock
[18:38] <st0x> blalbla
[18:39] <Miau> cybrhuman: Well, yeah, but since none of them worked, I just set to the one I was already using in the past
[18:39] <jct64> is there a program attached to sound that i can run from terminal?
[18:39] <EriC^^> Miau: try to reinstall unity
[18:39] <Miau> EriC^^: Alright, lemme try
[18:39] <EriC^^> Miau: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: is purging and reinstalling maybe better? since there is probably some settings somewhere.
[18:40] <jct64> or for a lighter interface use sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <jct64> the default setting works like unity.
[18:40] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: don't know a reinstall helped someone once
[18:40] <EriC^^> worth a shot first
[18:40] <jct64> more like windows 7
[18:40] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: okay
[18:41] <jct64> is there a terminal command for an audio control?
[18:41] <EriC^^> jct64: try pavucontrol
[18:41] <jct64> ok..
[18:41] <jct64> bye thanks
[18:42] <polzar> !ciao
[18:43] <curt> anyone run 14.04 on a computer that uses optimus that would be able to help me out? I cant switch to my nvidia card it gives an error. In the past when I have been able to switch to the card It will only run for about 5 minutes before locking up
[18:43] <Miau> EriC^^: Well, I reinstalled it, but still looks the same
[18:43] <EriC^^> Miau: ok
[18:44] <EriC^^> Miau: did you restart the pc before it happened btw>
[18:44] <cybrhuman> Miau: try the same process with "compiz"
[18:44] <Miau> EriC^^:  Hmm, okay, just a moment
[18:44] <timbo_> mtn: or anyone who can help, here is a dpaste link when I tried to reinstall grub   http://dpaste.com/0W4D60Z
[18:44] <EriC^^> Miau: no
[18:45] <EriC^^> Miau: i'm asking if you had restarted the pc earlier before the problem started
[18:45] <EriC^^> Miau: try to reinstall compiz as cybrhuman suggested
[18:45] <setra> hellome, need help to setup hostapd with openvswitch. I created a bridge (WIFI) and a Port(wifi_wlan0) now I would like the physical wlan0 to associate to the port(wlan0). how can this be done, since I always get: failed to add interface wlan0 to bridge: operation not permitted
[18:45] <setra> need help to setup hostapd with openvswitch. I created a bridge (WIFI) and a Port(wifi_wlan0) now I would like the physical wlan0 to associate to the port(wlan0). how can this be done, since I always get: failed to add interface wlan0 to bridge: operation not permitted
[18:46] <timbo_> http://dpaste.com/0W4D60Z    can anyone help with this output?
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  yes, have the unity plugin loaded
[18:47] <Miau> EriC^^:  Well, I just turned off my computer yesterday before going to sleep
[18:47] <EriC^^> Miau: ok, maybe it's the new kernel?
[18:47] <EriC^^> Miau: which kernel are you using?
[18:47] <EriC^^> ( uname -r )
[18:47] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: probably not a kernel issue, since he had working grpahics, just not working unity.
[18:47] <Miau> EriC^^: 3.5.0-54-generic
[18:48] <EriC^^> ok
[18:48] <EriC^^> did you try dconf reset -f /org/compiz ?
[18:49] <Miau>  cybrhuman: btw, what was the command to open the terminal again? (DISPLAY... something)
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  12.04.5 here, when I use xserver-xorg-lts-trusty, it works, but then my laptop heats up rapidly and shuts down -- now using xserver-xorg-lts-precise
[18:49] <cybrhuman> DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal
[18:50] <EriC^^> Miau: press ctrl+alt+f2 and try DISPLAY=:0 ccsm
[18:50] <EriC^^> check if the unity plug-in is enabled
[18:50] <thecha> i made it
[18:50] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: already done.
[18:50] <thecha> i am very happy
[18:51] <EriC^^> ok
[18:52] <timbo_> one last try for help then it's just a full reinstall.
[18:52] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Sorry for the late asnwer, I opened xchat to type faster than using the cellphone
[18:53] <cybrhuman> MiauPC: you have working graphics again now? :)
[18:53] <Miau> EriC^^:
[18:53] <curt> can anyone help me with issues regarding optimus laptop
[18:53] <cybrhuman> MonkeyDust: could it be dust?
[18:53] <MiauPC> cybrhuman: Not really... I used this trick of DISPLAY=:0 and opened xchat through terminal
[18:54] <cybrhuman> my standards for working graphics is low, MiauPC :P
[18:55] <MiauPC> cybrhuman: Well... It looks like I definitely need to reinstall it now x~x'
[18:55] <MiauPC> cybrhuman: The more that I use ubuntu, more bugs arrive to cause me headaches
[18:56] <cybrhuman> MiauPC: the more you change things.
[18:57] <cybrhuman> MiauPC: "rm -rf ~/.compiz" and log out and in again?
[18:57] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Well, ccsm is opened here, btw
[18:57] <cybrhuman> MiauPC: unity and opengl is loaded?
[18:58] <MiauPC> cybrhuman: You mean... Inside ccsm?
[18:58] <cybrhuman> MiauPC: checking that those are loaded inside ccsm, yes.
[18:59] <MiauPC> cybrhuman: Well, only opengl is not loaded
[18:59] <MiauPC> cybrhuman: ...oh wait, it is loaded, nevermind
[19:00] <cybrhuman> MiauPC: this is just weird. Now I am going to try to break unity myself.
[19:00] <EriC^^> MiauPC: try the open source driver
[19:00] <MiauPC> cybrhuman: Should I use rm -rf ~/.compiz?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> cybrhuman  not sure, i had to switchback to 12.04, because 14.04 gave a lot of other issues too, together with the ones mentioned earlier
[19:00] <MiauPC> EriC^^: uhh... Through terminal?
[19:00] <EriC^^> MiauPC: it's quite futile as it's not a config problem
[19:01] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: I still believe this is is config related.
[19:01] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: but wouldn't creating a new user solve it
[19:01] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Well... When I try to use Guest User, the same thing happens, unfortunately :c
[19:02] <UbuntuGNU> My audio skips when I change my volume level. Does anyone know what would cause this?
[19:03] <MiauPC> EriC^^ and cybrhuman: This may be off-topic, but my computer has an ATI Radeon 5570 (I'm not sure if this info would help but...)
[19:04] <basichash> is ubuntu 14.04 a LTS?
[19:04] <EriC^^> MiauPC: did you try xserver-xorg-video-ati ?
[19:04] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Hmm, lemme try
[19:04] <EriC^^> MiauPC: it's worth a shot i guess
[19:04] <rww> basichash: yes
[19:06] <MiauPC> EriC^^: So uhh... I just type "xserver-xorg-video-ati" inside terminal?
[19:06] <TheBigDeal> how can i assign a shortcut to change the language in xubuntu 14.10?
[19:06] <EriC^^> MiauPC: no, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:06] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Oh, okay, my bad. Just a moment
[19:07] <UbuntuGNU> My audio skips when I change my volume level. Does anyone know what would cause this?
[19:07] <MiauPC> EriC^^: It's saying it's already installed
[19:07] <EriC^^> MiauPC: try sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[19:07] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Hmm, okay
[19:07] <EriC^^> i'm using it and it says driver=i915
[19:08] <MiauPC> EriC^^: A text appears "PCI (sysfs)" and... that's about it
[19:08] <TheBigDeal> how can i assign a shortcut to change the language in xubuntu 14.10?
[19:10] <EriC^^> MiauPC: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:10] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Hmm, done
[19:10] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: MiauPC :: Hybrid graphics . Maybe something like : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD ??
[19:10] <TheBigDeal> how can i assign a shortcut to change the language in xubuntu 14.10?
[19:12] <EriC^^> MiauPC: press ctrl+alt+f3 and type DISPLAY=:0 software-properties-gtk
[19:12] <EriC^^> MiauPC: go to additional drivers, see what's installed
[19:13] <miroshi> Greetings.  When I launch an application, the window does not start on top of the others.  How do not find the way to change this behavior.   Anybody has a clue?  Oddly, I could not find the answer on the web.
[19:14] <EriC^^> miroshi: over all windows?
[19:14] <EriC^^> miroshi: check if they are set to always on top
[19:14] <miroshi> I do not want them to be always on top.
[19:14] <olerem> hi ubuntu users,  i search for people who own or know somebody with olympus voice recorders.  I need testers for Olympus DSS Voice audio format.
[19:14] <miroshi> However, when I start the application, I do not want the window to appear behind the others.
[19:15] <jhutchins> miroshi: What desktop?  Which release?  What specific applications?
[19:16] <jhutchins> miroshi: If you create a new user and log in as that user, do the windows behave the same way?
[19:16] <miroshi> Ubuntu 14.04 Unity
[19:16] <SchrodingersScat> miroshi: I have a window in my window manager settings that has to deal with 'Focus' and how things react, do you have this?
[19:16] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Hmm, alright, there are three options here: X.Org X Server, fglrx-updates and fglrx
[19:17] <miroshi> jhutchins, you made me realize...
[19:17] <EriC^^> MiauPC: which is selected as in use?
[19:17] <miroshi> Many applications do work ok.
[19:17] <miroshi> Seafile client does not however.
[19:17] <miroshi> It might be specific to this tool.
[19:17] <EriC^^> miroshi: press alt+space and check if the windows are set to always on top
[19:17] <EriC^^> nevermind
[19:17] <MiauPC> EriC: For some reason, fglrx-updates is checked, but it was always set as fglrx
[19:18] <Fr0Zn_> Hi all
[19:18] <EriC^^> MiauPC: try to set it to the xorg one
[19:18] <luckybunny> apparently my nvidia gfx card drivers aren't functioning properly with opencl
[19:18] <EriC^^> MiauPC: or fglrx
[19:18] <miroshi> Ok, nevermind for my problem.
[19:18] <luckybunny> anyone have a clue about that?
[19:18] <luckybunny> because I'm lost
[19:18] <miroshi> Must be a problem specific to Seafile client.
[19:18] <jhutchins> !nvidia
[19:18] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Well... Whenever I try to apply fglrx or X.Org, it goes back to fglrx-updates
[19:19] <EriC^^> MiauPC: try to purge it
[19:19] <EriC^^> MiauPC: sudo apt-get purge fglrx-updates
[19:20] <theRealGent> Hello all. I noticed in my dmesg output that my proprietary nvidia drivers can not load because noveau is still loaded. I used the ubuntu method of installing the nvidia drivers. Should that not disable nouvea automatically/
[19:20] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: I got the fglrx things active on my ati driven machine btw.
[19:20] <theRealGent> I see nouvea in my currently loaded modules list. This must be a bug...
[19:20] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: cool
[19:20] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: i tried the fglrx i think once but i liked the open source one better
[19:20] <jhutchins> theRealGent: Have you rebooted?
[19:21] <theRealGent> jhutchins, a few times since I thought I had installed the nvidia drivers.
[19:21] <jhutchins> theRealGent: Last I knew you had to manually blacklist nouveau.
[19:21] <theRealGent> lol What?
[19:21] <miroshi> theRealGent, something went wrong.
[19:21] <theRealGent> So the ubuntu additional drivers page will install it for you, then say "One proprietary driver in use" and then not have it be in use? x(
[19:21] <miroshi> Usually it works after a reboot.
[19:22] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Hmm, done, and it seems that xorg was automatically checked
[19:22] <EriC^^> MiauPC: ok
[19:22] <EriC^^> try sudo service lightdm restart
[19:22] <theRealGent> miroshi, not in my case.
[19:23] <root____> hi there
[19:23] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: I needed some more 3d performance than the open ones gave, the open ones did work at least, just a bit slow. just mentioning in case you find it relevant in comparing system.
[19:24] <MiauPC> EriC^^: So... Should I use that command "dconf reset -f /org/compiz" and "unity --reset-icons"?
[19:25] <EriC^^> MiauPC: try sudo service lightdm restart
[19:25] <EriC^^> MiauPC: if it doesn't work try dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[19:25] <theRealGent> anyone know what log to tail to see hardware related message?
[19:25] <EriC^^> MiauPC: then setsid unity
[19:25] <theRealGent> as in why a device may be disconnecting and reconnecting very quickly?
[19:25] <EriC^^> cybrhuman: i see
[19:26] <EriC^^> theRealGent: /var/log/syslog i guess
[19:26] <MiauPC> EriC^^: Well, the last I tried to use, Ubuntu stopped working, so if that happens I'll get disconnected okay?
[19:26] <hollusion> hello, can you suggest me a task manager (todo list) application that is capable of managing recurring tasks? and maybe capable of managing tasks of multiple users? i want to use it for household/housework management
[19:27] <EriC^^> hollusion: cron is useful
[19:27] <hollusion> i thought "getting things gnome" would be it but it misses the recurring tasks feature
[19:28] <miroshi> theRealGent:  Sorry.  At that point, you must hit the web and search.
[19:28] <Miau> EriC^^:  u-uhh... Something unexpected happened here
[19:28] <EriC^^> Miau: ?
[19:28] <MrElendig> hollusion: taskwarrior
[19:29] <miroshi> Now, regarding, my problem, I notice that now it works.  The problem is intermittent.  Sigh...
[19:29] <UbuntuGNU> My audio skips when I change my volume level. Does anyone know what would cause this?
[19:29] <user> exit
[19:29] <user> quit
[19:29] <miroshi> I installed 14.04 last week and it is extremely buggy.  Very disappointed.
[19:29] <Miau> EriC^^: A prompt of text appeared while Ubuntu was loading, and now I got a black screen on the user menu
[19:30] <EriC^^> Miau: what was the prompt of text that appeared?
[19:30] <EriC^^> Miau: check dmesg
[19:31] <cybrhuman> EriC^^: time to give up and suggest reinstall?
[19:31] <Miau> EriC^^:  Well... I can't, since I can't access my user
[19:31] <EriC^^> Miau: ctrl+alt+f1
[19:31] <theRealGent> miroshi, known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1315156
[19:32] <Miau> cybrhuman: Yeah... I think this is a lost case, but that's okay... :/
[19:32] <Guest85340> I have a dilemna. A friend let me try to recover his MSI CR 650 portable computer.  His hard drive is in bad shape.  I have connected the two computers together through the RJ-45 port I think.  Can I, with my Ubuntu desktop, diagnose his hard drive?
[19:32] <theRealGent> is there a way to "vote" for this bug?
[19:32] <Miau> EriC^^:  Hmm, I tried here, but I got a black screen completely now
[19:32] <EriC^^> Guest85340: smartctl or something
[19:33] <EriC^^> !find smart-util
[19:33] <EriC^^> !find smart
[19:33] <SchrodingersScat> !info smartmontools
[19:33] <Guest85340> BTW, his computer is not recognized  by my ubuntu.  His portable is using a live CD of Ubuntu 14.04LTS
[19:33] <dx486> hollusion, lightning, maybe
[19:33] <Guest85340> EriC^^: Or something?
[19:33] <EriC^^> Guest85340: smartmontools ^^^
[19:33] <Miau> EriC^^:  Oh wait, I press ctrl+alt+f7 and tried again, now it's working
[19:33] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Miau :; As this is hybrid graphics Intel/ATI, Might also look into : https://github.com/beidl/amd-indicator -> This indicator applet allows owners of laptops with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics capabilities to easily switch between the graphics cards without the need of running CCC or terminal commands.
[19:34] <Guest85340> EriC^^: It"s in the repos of Ubuntu?
[19:34] <EriC^^> Miau: ?
[19:34] <EriC^^> Guest85340: yes
[19:34] <TheBigDeal> the language doesn't change even when i change the source
[19:34] <TheBigDeal> in xubuntu
[19:35] <benw040392> wondering if someone can help...
[19:35] <Miau> Bashing-om: Well... The situation got worse here, so I can't access I user normally, unfortunately
[19:35] <benw040392> whats the best way to install a program which is downloaded as a .tar.gz folder?
[19:36] <Guest85340> EriC^^: Don't see it in Ubuntu Software Center.  I'll look in a terminal
[19:36] <Miau> EriC^^:  Ctrl+alt+f1 is working here
[19:36] <EriC^^> Miau: ok
[19:36] <EriC^^> check dmesg
[19:36] <SchrodingersScat> benw040392: normally you use tar xzf to extract it from the archive then follow the install instructions by the developer, often a ./configure && make && make install
[19:36] <theRealGent> do xubuntu/lubuntu also go on the ubuntu launchpad bug tracker?
[19:37] <ciurkut> hiho ive searched google all the way and i cant find that info... does i8k fan controll module work with dell l502x?
[19:37] <Miau> EriC^^:  Well... Tons of text appeared on my screen
[19:38] <ciurkut> is there official compatibility list?
[19:38] <Guest85340> EriC^^: If my Ubuntu 14.10 (64b) doesn't show his portable in file manager, how will Smart whatever find it?
[19:38] <EriC^^> Miau: ok, type less dmesg
[19:38] <EriC^^> Guest85340: does sudo parted -l see it?
[19:38] <benw040392> thanks SchrodingersScat, do i need to run the .sh file>
[19:39] <Bashing-om> ciurkut: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/ .
[19:39] <janisozaur> hi guise… why would close(int) be missing from fcntl.h?
[19:40] <Miau> EriC^^: When I type it, a text appears: "dmesg: file or directory not found."
[19:40] <EriC^^> janisozaur: why do you say it's missing?
[19:40] <Guest85340> EriC^^: It sees 1, 2, 6, and 5.  I imagine sda1, etc
[19:40] <EriC^^> janisozaur: it's found in unistd.h
[19:40] <Miau> EriC^^: *sigh* This ubuntu is asking to be formatted, really...
[19:40] <ciurkut> Bashing-om, what is that?
[19:40] <janisozaur> EriC^^, huh? that differs from https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Opening-and-Closing-Files.html
[19:40] <SchrodingersScat> benw040392: couldn't tell you, is there any README instructions?
[19:41] <Bashing-om> ciurkut: The hardware catalog you inquired about.
[19:41] <Guest85340> EriC^^: What other command line or other thing can force it to see it?
[19:42] <ciurkut> Bashing-om, i just wanted to know if i can safely control fan speed using i8k.o :x
[19:42] <benw040392> sorry, i appreciate i'm not being the most helpful! there's not unfortunately. It's the pycharm educational edition, trying to install on brother's laptop although it's different to the version i use which has much more support (the version i'm trying to install is pretty new)
[19:42] <EriC^^> Miau: my bad, dmesg | less
[19:42] <janisozaur> EriC^^, in that case, should I include fcntl.h directly for open(int, …) or use unistd.h?
[19:43] <Miau> EriC^^:  Done
[19:44] <EriC^^> janisozaur: man 2 open
[19:44] <SchrodingersScat> benw040392: https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm-educational/quickstart/installation.html#linux they seem to say that yes, you should run the sh, so if you take their word for it.. and they preface that by saying you should have openjdk-jre already installed
[19:44] <EriC^^> ( it will tell you what you need )
[19:45] <EriC^^> Miau: any errors?
[19:45] <benw040392> d'oh, thanks, can't believe i didn't find that page!
[19:45] <benw040392> many thanks :)
[19:45] <SchrodingersScat> benw040392: welcome, good luck
[19:46] <janisozaur> EriC^^, yeah, got that. I'm puzzled why these would be in two different files, especially that it contests libc docs
[19:46] <Miau> EriC^^:  So uhh... I'll have to read this entire text? :c
[19:47] <EriC^^> Miau: type /video
[19:47] <EriC^^> to search for video
[19:47] <EriC^^> press "n" to go to the next match
[19:47] <EriC^^> Miau: just skim over it for interesting errors
[19:47] <blueblur112198> I need some help. I'm trying to install Ubuntu via a USB stick. Can I just copy the files from the iso to the USB stick?
[19:48] <blueblur112198> Or do I need a special program to make it bootable?
[19:48] <blueblur112198> I'm on Arch right now BTW
[19:48] <Miau> EriC^^: Uhh, I can't leave dmesg
[19:48] <EriC^^> blueblur112198: yes you can dd it to the usb
[19:48] <blueblur112198> Ok
[19:48] <blueblur112198> EriC^^: Thanks
[19:49] <Guest85340> EriC^^: Neither sees the other.  About smart whatever, how do I do something with that?  A command line thing?  With GUI?
[19:50] <cybrhuman> janisozaur: which libc docs?
[19:50] <EriC^^> Miau: press "q"
[19:51] <janisozaur> cybrhuman, oh wait. it actually says so at the top. *blushes*
[19:51] <janisozaur> nvm then.
[19:51] <janisozaur> thanks guys
[19:51] <EriC^^> Miau: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:51] <EriC^^> Miau: dmesg | pastebinit
[19:51] <squinty> Guest85340: you could use "Disks" from the livedvd to see SmartData results
[19:52] <SchrodingersScat> !info gnome-disks
[19:52] <SchrodingersScat> !info gnome-disk-utility
[19:52] <Miau> EriC^^:  Done, lemme type the link
[19:53] <Guest85340> squinty: The portable ... that is in bad shape ... doesn't have internet access unless it goes through my desktop - provided it sees it.
[19:53] <Miau> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8905961/
[19:55] <squinty> Guest85340: Disks doesn't need internet.  Should be readily available via the live dvd... run it on the portable and see what it says.  :)
[19:56] <EriC^^> Miau: this seems interesting saa7134[0]: can't register video device
[19:58] <Miau> EriC^^:  So... Ubuntu can't identify my ATI radeon or something?
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  i'm dealing with the same problem as Miau ... where did you/he find thet line?
[19:59] <Miau> MonkeyDust: Well, I use sent the pastebin for him
[19:59] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: in his dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/8905961/ line 1015
[19:59] <squinty> Guest85340:  when you have Disks open, highlight the drive in question and then click on the "Cog" icon located in the upper right hand corner of Disks > Smart Data and Self Tests
[19:59] <Miau> MonkeyDust: I just*
[19:59] <kostkon> Miau, it's a hybrid one right?
[20:00] <kostkon> Miau, dual graphics cards, intel and ati
[20:00] <Guest85340> squinty: when I typed "disks", I got a"no command found" that asked me if I meant udisks or diskd
[20:00] <EriC^^> Miau: maybe try to boot using nomodeset
[20:01] <squinty> Guest85340:  should be in the main menu /software center iirc
[20:01] <EriC^^> or try an older kernel
[20:01] <Miau> kostkon: Uhh, I have a Phenom II X4 and an ATI Radeon 5770
[20:02] <SchrodingersScat> Guest85340, squinty: for me it's gnome-disks in command line, think it was installed with gnome-disk-utility, and shows up in menu as Disks
[20:02] <Guest85340> squinty: Don't see it in terminal.  Didn't yet try sudo
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  Miau dmesg|grep compiz is interesting too, a lot of segfaults
[20:02] <Miau> EriC^^:  I simply type that inside terminal, right?
[20:03] <squinty> Guest85340:  why terminal?
[20:03] <EriC^^> Miau: are you on 12.10?
[20:03] <kostkon> Miau, i'm also seeing references to precise "Pid: 32, comm: kworker/0:1 Not tainted 3.5.0-54-generic #81~precise1-Ubuntu"
[20:03] <Miau> EriC^^: I'm using 14.04
[20:03] <EriC^^> Miau: why do you have precise there?
[20:03] <EriC^^> and it mentions quantal somewhere too
[20:04] <Guest85340> squinty: Don't see it in a menu.  And gnome-disks and gnome-disk-utility are not found on the livecd
[20:04] <EriC^^> thought maybe you had quantal with precise repos
[20:04] <abailarri> Hello. If I execute  extension=zmq.so and if I look php -m output I not see the module enabled. The procedure is correct?
[20:04] <kostkon> Miau, you could try doing apt-get dist-upgrade and then apt-get autoremove && apt-get autoclean
[20:04] <Miau> EriC^^:  Well... I recently updated it to 14.04, before yesterday
[20:04] <kostkon> Miau, and check the contents of your sources.list as EriC^^ suggested, just in case
[20:05] <squinty> Guest85340:  hmmm...which livedvd version are you using?
[20:05] <EriC^^> Miau: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.ist
[20:05] <EriC^^> Miau: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:05] <alexxaa> Please help me! I have 3 NTFS partitions, 2 ext4 and unlocated space. I would like to extend my /home partition
[20:06] <alexxaa> I am currently using live USB
[20:06] <EriC^^> Miau: something isn't right, you're using the 3.5 kernel
[20:06] <alexxaa> and have started gparted
[20:06] <Guest85340> squinty: 14.04 LTS
[20:06] <SchrodingersScat> squinty: I don't recall it being installed default on the install media, I always have to install.
[20:06] <EriC^^> Miau: you should be on 3.13
[20:06] <alexxaa> but can-t expand. I shrinked NTFS partition so that free space is under the /home partition
[20:06] <alexxaa> what shall I do_
[20:06] <alexxaa> ?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> alexxaa  first of all: backup
[20:07] <root____> someone tell me how to check my ubuntu version ?
[20:07] <EriC^^> root____: lsb_release -a
[20:07] <DJones> !version | root____
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> root____  cat /etc/issue
[20:07] <k1l> root____: lsb_release -a
[20:07] <Guest85340> squinty: On the desktop, I have installed gnome-disks.  It finds a sdb, but says nothings on it
[20:07] <SchrodingersScat> ok, maybe it is
[20:07] <Miau> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8906176/
[20:07] <k1l> Guest85340: what is the issue?
[20:08] <bekks> alexxaa: Can you take a screenshot and upload it?
[20:08] <alexxaa> MonkeyDust, I have created backup
[20:08] <alexxaa> bekks, just a moment
[20:08] <Miau> EriC^^ and kostkon: Sorry if I'm typing so slow, I'm using my cellphone to talk with you guys :c
[20:08] <kostkon> Miau, no probs
[20:09] <Guest85340> squinty: The portable has hard drive issues.  Apparently the desktop sees the portable with disks.  The portable looks to connect to the internet trhough the connection with the desktop, though it doesn't succeed.  I would like to diagnose the portable and, eventually format the hard drive of the portable so I can install Ubuntu on the portable
[20:09] <squinty> Guest85340:  SchrodingersScat  just booted a lubuntu 14.04 iso here and Disks is definitely included... seem to remember it was on unity too.
[20:10] <EriC^^> Miau: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as kostkon suggested
[20:10] <kostkon> Miau, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  and  sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:10] <kostkon> ^^
[20:10] <Miau> kostkon: So... Should I use that command you asked me to use?
[20:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> can someone tell me the command to move directories?
[20:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> from one to another
[20:10] <Guest85340> squinty: Im' not doubting SchrodingersScat, just telling you what I see  on my side
[20:11] <Miau> EriC^^ and kostkon: Okay, just a moment
[20:11] <SchrodingersScat> GuyThatNeedsHelp: mv
[20:11] <EriC^^> Miau: run sudo apt-get update first
[20:12] <alexxaa> bekks> screenshot > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2L/U3/2qVDbfrz/screenshot-11092014-0811.png
[20:12] <Guest85340> Gotta go, the Mrs is getting upset with me
[20:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> nvm can you tell me the command to remove a directory?
[20:12] <Guest85340> see y'all later today
[20:12] <k1l> Guest85340: you cant invistigate a hdd over ethernet cable while the other system is not running
[20:12] <squinty> Guest85340:  why aren't you just running a livedvd on the portable (I thought you mentioned previously you were but may be mistaken). you could also check the hard drive manufacturers site for their testing software (most are windows based though iirc) to see if the hard drive is on it's way out.
[20:13] <Miau> EriC^^:  okay, just a moment
[20:13] <Guest85340> k1l: Each time I try to install Ubuntu on the portable, it crashes.  Another friend told me that he tried to install Windows, but it, too, crashed
[20:14] <success> isnt the beta test immediately published after upload?
[20:14] <Guest85340> squinty: Live CD works, but I'd like to make something permenant on the portable
[20:14] <k1l> Guest85340: you said the portable is damaged. so if there is a hardware failure ubuntu cant do much about that
[20:14] <k1l> Guest85340: you will need to run a live system to make checks on that device
[20:15] <bubbasaures> Guest85340, There is a hardware channel, you might talk with them if needed.
[20:15] <Guest85340> k1l: I understand that.  I'd like to see what the problems are so I can see if it's worth the try to install anything somewhere on the portable, perhaps after a hard drive replacement
[20:15] <Guest85340> bubbasaures: thx
[20:15] <Guest85340> gonna do that once the Mrs is calmed
[20:16] <k1l> Guest85340: ok, come back when you got a live system running
[20:16] <Guest85340> see ya all
[20:16] <Miau> EriC^^ and kostkon: Alright, I used sudo apt-get update, but when I used kostkon's command, two messages appear saying "Impossible to find package apt-get and autoremove"
[20:16] <alexxaa> Is my problem solvable_
[20:16] <alexxaa> ?
[20:17] <tuxtimo> alexxaa what is your problem?
[20:17] <kostkon> Miau, the cmd is    sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:17] <EriC^^> Miau: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:18] <k1l> alexxaa: you want to increase the ubuntu partitions?
[20:18] <Miau> EriC^^ and kostkon: uhh... Which one first?
[20:18] <EriC^^> Miau: dist-upgrade
[20:19] <Miau> EriC^^:  It's saying it's already installed
[20:19] <alexxaa> k1l, yes
[20:20] <alexxaa> I want to increase /home partition
[20:20] <k1l> alexxaa: its possible. but you cant do that from the running ubuntu. you need to boot a live cd/dvd/usb and do that from an outside OS
[20:20] <alexxaa> tuxtimo, I'd like to increase my home partition. Please see what I wrote previously and check the link with screenshot
[20:21] <EriC^^> Miau: type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[20:21] <tuxtimo> can't see what you've wrote before
[20:21] <alexxaa> k1l, I' already on live USB
[20:21] <EriC^^> Miau: is the 3.13 there?
[20:21] <alexxaa> I am waiting
[20:21] <tuxtimo> you have to boot into a linux live system
[20:21] <tuxtimo> there you can use gparted
[20:21] <tuxtimo> or something similar
[20:21] <alexxaa> tuxtimo
[20:21] <kostkon> Miau, autoremove will hopefully remove thr old kernel and update grub
[20:21] <alexxaa> tuxtimo, I am running live USB and opened gparted. I can't achieve what I want
[20:22] <tuxtimo> are the / and /home on the same partition?
[20:22] <success> https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.package.name
[20:22] <Miau> EriC^^:  uhh... Just to make sure, is it an "-i" or -L"?
[20:22] <jhutchins> alexxaa: if you've created a backup, simply repartition the drive, format the partitions, and restore the files.
[20:22] <EriC^^> -L ( small case)
[20:22] <k1l> alexxaa: if you are on a live ubuntu check the sda4 and increase that. then increase the partitions inside sda4 you want
[20:22] <success> so if my app packahe is com.sj.xxx then it should be https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.sj.xxx right?
[20:23] <success> not https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.com.sj.xxx.xxx
[20:23] <squinty> alexxaa:  http://gparted.org/documentation.php   has good docs
[20:23] <jhutchins> ,kernels
[20:23] <EriC^^> Miau: how did you upgrade to 14.04 btw?
[20:23] <k1l> alexxaa: i dont understand where your issue is right now
[20:23] <tuxtimo> k1l .. i am neither
[20:24] <metaldog> easy. a quick one for you. how do i use terminal to install unetbootin?
[20:24] <alexxaa> Ok, I'll explain it once more (plus I'd like to avoid jhutchins's solution):
[20:24] <alexxaa> I have 3 NTFS and two ext4 partiotions> / and /home
[20:24] <k1l> alexxaa: no
[20:24] <alexxaa> I shrinked one NTFS and want to add free space to /home
[20:24] <alexxaa> here is the screenshot
[20:24] <k1l> alexxaa: you have 3 ntfs and 2 ext4 inside a extended partition
[20:24] <OerHeks> success, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[20:24] <alexxaa> http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2L/U3/2qVDbfrz/screenshot-11092014-0811.png
[20:25] <andrewjs18> hi all, anyone familiar with apcupsd?
[20:25] <Miau> EriC^^:  Well... Ubuntu showed a message saying that there was a newer version, so I just accept the installation
[20:25] <k1l> alexxaa: you need to be aware that its a extended partition.
[20:25] <SchrodingersScat> metaldog: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[20:25] <alexxaa> I need to "move" unallocated space down
[20:25] <alexxaa> and then to extend /home partition
[20:25] <metaldog> thanks shrodinger
[20:26] <tuxtimo> Resize/move?
[20:26] <alexxaa> impossible
 alexxaa: you need to be aware that its a extended partition.
[20:26] <k1l> alexxaa: do you even listen?
[20:26] <alexxaa> k1l, so?
[20:26] <OerHeks> alexxaa, unmount that drive first, drag sda4 to the left
[20:26] <alexxaa> what does it mean to be extended?
[20:26] <alexxaa> XD
[20:26] <k1l> alexxaa: so there is your issue
[20:27] <OerHeks> extended is like a folder, with sda5 and 6 in it
[20:27] <k1l> an extended partition is like a container for other partitions.
[20:28] <k1l> alexxaa: the reason is you can only have 4 primary partitions on one drive. so after 3 ntfs there is only one more primary which is that extended that includes the 2 ubuntu ones. so increase that first.
[20:28] <k1l> !partitions | alexxaa
[20:28] <Miau> EriC^^ and kostkon: Just a moment, I'll use my brother's laptop to type faster, the cellphone just slows me down
[20:29] <k1l> alexxaa: see this link for more details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[20:29] <alexxaa> OerHeks, I have unmounted, but can't drag it lo left
[20:30] <alexxaa> k1l, I need practical advice, I'm on battery on laptop, no cable attached, my time is running out
[20:30] <alexxaa> please
[20:30] <alexxaa> I'll read it all later
[20:30] <alexxaa> I need some action right now
[20:31] <k1l> alexxaa: i told you what to do minutes ago
[20:31] <k1l> even 2 or 3 times already.
[20:31] <jhutchins> alexxaa: My suggestion would be to delete the existing partitions and create new ones with the structure you want.
[20:31] <OerHeks> alexxaa, sure it is possible to drag sda4, try again
[20:32] <alexxaa> k1l, it worked
[20:32] <alexxaa> now I understand
[20:32] <alexxaa> I've read your words once againg
[20:32] <alexxaa> *again
[20:32] <alexxaa> extending sda4 was right thing to do
[20:32] <jhutchins> alexxaa: http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
[20:33] <jhutchins> alexxaa: http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=moving-space-between-partitions
[20:33] <jhutchins> alexxaa: http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[20:35] <alexxaa> now the situation is following> thanks to k1l, I managed to move unallocated space from ntfs to forth primary partition (sda4 that contains sda5 / and sda6 /home)
[20:35] <alexxaa> but even now I can't increase the volume of sda6 :(
[20:35] <OerHeks> alexxaa, now first hit apply, before you move sda5
[20:36] <alexxaa> I applied
[20:36] <k1l> alexxaa: you still need to move sda5 to the fron of sda4, then sda6
[20:36] <k1l> alexxaa: and next time you need support actually use your OS support channel.
[20:37] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^ and kostkon: Finally, keyboard
[20:37] <alexxaa> k1l, that is the problem, I cannot move it. I cannot drag it
[20:37] <kostkon> MiauAnotherPC, :)
[20:37] <michele_> dracula
[20:38] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^ and kostkon: So, back on the topic, there are a lot of linux images installed it seems
[20:38] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: any 3.13 ?
[20:38] <k1l> alexxaa: i dont know if the mint install and mint live cd are different in their installed setup. on ubuntu you could just choose sda5 and resize/move it to the beginning of sda4.
[20:39] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: There is one, "linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic"
[20:39] <k1l> alexxaa: but i bet the mint support channel, made the first channel you join with your irc program on default, could help you on that.
[20:39] <EriC^^> latest should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:39] <alexxaa> http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1h/Ec/4HwUhmRR/screenshot-11092014-0811.png
[20:40] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: type cat /etc/issue
[20:40] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: A text appears saying "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[20:41] <alexxaa> I'll come back in a minute
[20:41] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: ok, it's odd that it didn't install the latest one
[20:42] <MiauAnotherPC> Is it possible to pastebinit that command "sudo apt-get disdpkg -l | grep linux-imagem"?
[20:42] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-39-generic
[20:42] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: MiauAnotherPC /boot partition full ? -> df -h <- ??
[20:43] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: yeah dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[20:43] <k1l> MiauAnotherPC: not sudo apt-get in front.
[20:43] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: he said it said no packages to be installed
[20:43] <EriC^^> ( dist-upgrade )
[20:44] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yeah, then is strange .
[20:44] <MiauAnotherPC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8906709/
[20:44] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: 3.13 is there
[20:44] <EriC^^> type uname -r again please
[20:45] <EriC^^> you said it said 3.5 earlier
[20:45] <MiauAnotherPC> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[20:45] <EriC^^> ok, that's odd but nice
[20:45] <EriC^^> try to restart
[20:45] <EriC^^> and hold shift to get grub
[20:45] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: I guess it's  related to my grub
[20:45] <EriC^^> boot into the 3.13 kernel
[20:45] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: try update-grub first
[20:46] <EriC^^> see if it picks it up
[20:46] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: Alright
[20:46] <k1l> EriC^^: maybe try "sudo update-grub" and see if it picks up the other kernels
[20:46] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: Done
[20:46] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: did it mention 3.13?
[20:47] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: Ayup!
[20:47] <EriC^^> ok cool
[20:47] <EriC^^> boot into it
[20:47] <Finetundra> how would one install windows AFTER ubuntu?
[20:47] <k1l> Finetundra: install it, then boot ubuntu cd/usb and reinstall the grub
[20:47] <EriC^^> Finetundra: same, but you have to use a liveusb to reinstall grub
[20:47] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: u-uhh... h-how? Do I need to restart my computer or...?
[20:47] <xug> i installed ati drivers and xorg stopped working
[20:47] <xug> thats why
[20:48] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: yes
[20:48] <Finetundra> k1l, EriC^^, ok, I'll begin and then be back
[20:49] <delinquentme> Is there any difference between cp ~/inf/salt/cloud.profiles.d/gcloud.conf /etc/salt/cloud.profiles.d/      ........... AND ........... cp ~/inf/salt/cloud.profiles.d/gcloud.conf /etc/salt/cloud.profiles.d/.                ... with the period at the end?
[20:49] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: So... I just press the reset button, right? Or can I do it through terminal?
[20:49] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: no, sudo reboot
[20:50] <EriC^^> if you ever need to hard restart
[20:50] <EriC^^> press alt+prntscrn and type reisub slowly
[20:50] <EriC^^> ( if sudo reboot doesn't work from a tty or something )
[20:51] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: Ohhh, I booted up 3.13 and finally the stuff appeared :3
[20:52] <EriC^^> ok cool
[20:52] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: But uhh... How about the other versions? Like 14.04
[20:52] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[20:52] <jhutchins> delinquentme: May I suggest you try it both ways with a test file and see?
[20:52] <EriC^^> 3.13 is the kernel version
[20:53] <delinquentme> jhutchins, they behave the same ... but I was looking for edgecases
[20:53] <grzegorz> hello
[20:53] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: you're on 14.04 right now using the 3.13 kernel ( which is the latest one )
[20:53] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: Ohh,okay, I think I got it
[20:53] <jhutchins> delinquentme: If you do ls -a, you will see two tokens, . and ..
[20:54] <EriC^^> MiauAnotherPC: if you want you can sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:54] <MiauAnotherPC> EriC^^: Well, before I forget, lemme fix my grub to set this kernel
[20:54] <jhutchins> delinquentme: . represents the directory itself, .. the "parent" directory that preceeds it.