[03:44] <frank-san> How can I mount my windows HD for read/write?
[03:44] <cafuego> DaaJeH:Normally your ISP would charge you extra for having a fixed IP address *and* custom reverse domain entry.
[03:44] <zoexii> frank-san, is it NTFS?
[03:44] <frank-san> yes
[03:44] <Knowerrors> Any Xubuntu users here?  Just installed it and things aren't working...
[03:44] <dooglus> frank-san: reformat it to ext3 or reiserfs is the safest way
[03:44] <n00b> d00glus: it is a floppdrive & the files were originally saved with window 98 so i am guesin fat32
[03:44] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Well, normally they wouldn't do the second part at all, but you might be lucky.
[03:45] <DaaJeH> cafuego: Can you explain more please
[03:45] <frank-san> I'm trying to resize the windows partition so I can have a dual boot
[03:45] <frank-san> trying to use gparted to do the job
[03:45] <dooglus> n00b: you could try mounting with "-t auto" and see if the format is detected.  otherwise "-t vfat" specifies the FAT format
[03:45] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: I'll try to explain
[03:45] <DaaJeH> cafuego: hummmm. I see urs like i.am.cafuego.geek.nz
[03:45] <zoexii> frank-san, than you don't want it mounted,
[03:45] <zoexii> frank-san, you can't use gparted on a mounted partition.,
[03:46] <DaaJeH> cafuego: how do you get to do that?
[03:46] <kelbizzle_> config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/liba52/Makefile.in
[03:46] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: there are two parts in this protocol. One is to convert the domain in the IP number. This one is easy.
[03:46] <frank-san> zoexii, okay - it's not working as is when booting ubuntu
[03:46] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: the second part is to do the "reverse". To convert the IP back into the domain.
[03:46] <DaaJeH> Can you tell me how
[03:46] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: problem is ... the domain can be easily boughty, many companies are happy to sell it to you.
[03:47] <cafuego> DaaJeH: I have a rackmounted server at a hosting provider, which comes with up to 32 IP addresses (for an extra charge) that I can configure to use with any domain names I have also bought.
[03:47] <slew> hi, whats the command to get the build-essential packages?
[03:47] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: but the actual IP number is usually dynamic and is much harder to buy.
[03:47] <zoexii> frank-san, I don't understand the situation, are you trying to resize using a live CD?  Is linux already installed on the HD or not?
[03:47] <frank-san> zoexii, winXP is installed
[03:47] <cafuego> DaaJeH: The hosting provider owns the IP addresses and allow me to customise how they appear via an interface to add or chnage entries on their domain name server.
[03:47] <frank-san> zoexii, I booted WITH A LIVE cd
[03:47] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: so, UNLESS you have a PERMANENT IP address... which is neither usual or inexpensive... you are usually out of luck
[03:48] <zoexii> frank-san, ok.  and you tried to resize with gparted... what goes wrong?
[03:48] <[linner] > yo yo yo ya'll
[03:48] <[linner] > :)
[03:48] <DaaJeH> cribeiro how much do you pay a month?
[03:48] <mustard5> frank-san, have you done any preperatory steps like defragging your windows drive from windows beforehand?
[03:48] <Linoob> quick basic question -- do i need anything besides gtk+ dev libraries to get make working?
[03:48] <[linner] > !seen thoreauputic
[03:48] <ubotu> thoreauputic <n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 16h 39m 12s ago, saying: '!coc'.
[03:48] <HansZwolle><EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen 33 day 10 hr 33 min 29 s ago
[03:48] <frank-san> zoexii, it seems to go through the motions - no error msg -- but when finished it hasn't resized
[03:49] <frank-san> zoexii, maybe there is a log file
[03:49] <cafuego> HansZwolle: can you turn that script off, please?
[03:49] <kelbizzle_> config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/liba52/Makefile.in
[03:49] <kelbizzle_>  <~~asnyone kjnow what that means?
[03:49] <[linner] > nalioth, how are you dear?
[03:49] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: What are you compiling?
[03:50] <n00b> d00glas: how do i mount floppy. would it be "sudo mount -t vfat a:
[03:50] <n00b> "?
[03:50] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: I dont have a permanent IP address at home. However I do have one at work. And I pay at least three times as much, mainly because of the permanent address and the reverse domain name.
[03:50] <Badman[OFF] > i have question
[03:50] <[linner] > hey everyone... how can I find out what version of the ndiswrapper is installed on my system?
[03:50] <NoUse> n00b you use gnome?
[03:51] <n00b> nouse: yes, but using terminal
[03:51] <Bicchi> what do i need to install to be able to use gtkmm in ubuntu?
[03:51] <dooglus> last time thoreauputic was here was around 16 hours ago
[03:51] <Badm4n> !Q : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10
[03:51] <ubotu> Badm4n: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:51] <[linner] > dooglus, thanks :)
[03:51] <nalioth> [linner] : great! and you?
[03:51] <[linner] > nalioth, tired... but fine thanks!
[03:51] <DaaJeH> cafuego : How about you? how much you pay?
[03:51] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Around AU$300 per month
[03:51] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: Thank you
[03:51] <NoUse> n00b check /etc/fstab, find the mount point of /dev/fd0 and just type 'mount /mountpoint'
[03:52] <cafuego> DaaJeH: (for a managed server and a handful of addresses)
[03:52] <kelbizzle_> cafuego: Xine
[03:52] <DaaJeH> cafuego: dollars?
[03:52] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: Why don't you just install the precompiled one?
[03:52] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Yes
[03:52] <kelbizzle_> how
[03:52] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[03:53] <mipe> What mplayer Shall I installed i386,i586,custom?
[03:53] <DaaJeH> cafuego: too much!
[03:53] <cafuego> mipe: depends on your cpu
[03:53] <Badm4n> ?
[03:53] <mipe> cafuego:My Cpu is Celeron M.
[03:53] <cafuego> DaaJeH: No, not really.
[03:53] <cafuego> mipe: i686 then
[03:53] <zoexii> frank-san, to be honest I've never had to resize an NTFS,
[03:53] <kronicdreamer> 2005-11-15: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company) < does that mean on the way?
[03:53] <mipe> cafeu:Thank you.
[03:53] <zoexii> frank-san, but this site might have something useful: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
[03:54] <frank-san> zoexii, thx anyway
[03:54] <_crimson> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43267 could help me??
[03:54] <kronicdreamer> thats the shipit stuff
[03:54] <kelbizzle_> cafuego: Where is the system alerts and stuff
[03:54] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Well, it IS too much if all you want is a custom reverse dns entry.
[03:54] <DaaJeH> 300 U.S Dollars a month is much for me:_)
[03:54] <cafuego> DaaJeH: I never mentioned the US. Bah.
[03:54] <mipe> cafeu:i686 is not there, can I install i586?
[03:54] <slew> hehe
[03:54] <cafuego> DaaJeH: This is a server that hosts web and mail for 80+ clients, not just a toy so i can have a cute name on irc ;-)
[03:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://base.google.com/base/items?oid=4470111404086175158 <-- bwha hah hah
[03:55] <cafuego> mipe: Yep
[03:55] <n00b> NoUse & Dooglus: Thank You
[03:55] <DaaJeH> cafuego: how much would it be in U.S?
[03:55] <cafuego> !300*0.76
[03:55] <ubotu> 228
[03:55] <kronicdreamer> does this mean it wont be long? 2005-11-15: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company)
[03:55] <cafuego> About that much
[03:55] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: here in Brazil it costs around R$300 -> about US$150.
[03:56] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: but that's for very little bandwidth. You would probably want more :-)
[03:56] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: Depends how long they need to be on a boat for.
[03:56] <Tank-> Hahaha - [10:54:56]  <cafuego> DaaJeH: This is a server that hosts web and mail for 80+ clients, not just a toy so i can have a cute name on irc ;-), I have 16 mail servers that host mail for 800,000 people but I still think there a toy :)
[03:56] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: cool: but isn't it kinda high in Brazil
[03:56] <kronicdreamer> on a boat?
[03:56] <kronicdreamer> :S
[03:57] <kronicdreamer> mississippi usa
[03:57] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: Did you think they were going to waste money on air mail?
[03:57] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: (I assume you're asking about ShipIt)
[03:57] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: this kind of pricing is possible in cable networks (using cable modems) or in small ISPs, usually because you can convince the ISp owner to do it for you :-)
[03:57] <dooglus> frank-san: I only ever resized an NTFS partition once.  I spent ages running Windows defrag, but it seemed to be pretty useless.  In the end bootit worked for me.
[03:57] <Badm4n> !Q : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [03:57] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Badm4n
[03:57] <cribeiro> dooglus: I did it lots of times recently (defrag & resize) always flawlessly.
[03:58] <frank-san> dooglus, boot it - is that installed with Ubuntu?
[03:58] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: Can you give me more explaination?
[03:58] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: They don't get shipped from the US.
[03:58] <dooglus> frank-san: no, it's a separate program.  it's not ever free, but the evaluation version works fine.  and you only need to run it once...
[03:58] <misfit_toy> kronicdreamer, expect it to take about 4-6 weeks
[03:58] <dooglus> !bootitng
[03:58] <ubotu> it has been said that bootitng is a program which can resize NTFS partitions.  A fully functional evaluation copy is available from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html
[03:59] <frank-san> dooglus, have a URL?
[03:59] <cafuego> an axe or magnet can resize ntfs aprtitions too
[03:59] <dooglus> frank-san: look up a line or two
[03:59] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: the ISP, even small ones, do have a block of IP addresses assigned to them.. and they usually run the DNS sefrver themselves. For a small ISP it isnt too hard to sell you a dedicated IP address. The administrative cost isnt that high.
[03:59] <[linner] > cafuego, ... do you know how can I find out what version of the ndiswrapper is installed on my system?
[03:59] <cafuego> [linner] : dpkg -l ndiswrapper-utils
[04:00] <[linner] > cafuego, I knew you'd know. :)  thank you
[04:00] <frank-san> dooglus, thx
[04:00] <Badm4n> Question : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [04:00] <[linner] > cafuego, HAS the magic :)
[04:00] <Badm4n> maybe gimme the link ?
[04:00] <cafuego> s/the/teh/
[04:00] <cafuego> (more special that way)
[04:01] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: the problem here is twofold. First, it's kind of hard to get a big block of IP addresses. Small ISPs may have a few ones to spare. And the administrative cost is high if have a big ISP, because managing thousand of IP addresses can be a pain in the ass.
[04:01] <cafuego> Badm4n: http://www.google.com/?q=wusb11+linux
[04:01] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: so I can ask them for dedicated ip
[04:01] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: yes. small ISPs are your best chance for a deal, they may be easier to deail with
[04:01] <[linner] > cafuego, ok... so i have an old version... besides sourceforge... where can i easily install the newest version without having to compile it....any suggestions?
[04:02] <cafuego> Not to mention a /24 netblock (smallest unit for management purposes) costs and arm and a leg.
[04:02] <DaaJeH> like comcast!
[04:02] <r00723r0> hi
[04:02] <cafuego> [linner] : Not. Compiling will be involved either way.
[04:02] <mipe> What media player is good?
[04:02] <r00723r0> is there any way to make ubuntu recognize wpa?
[04:03] <cafuego> r00723r0: Via wpa_supplicant
[04:03] <[linner] > cafuego, crap... ok... i've tried to do it using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto but am having a tough time
[04:03] <r00723r0> apt-get wpa_supplicant?
[04:03] <cafuego> r00723r0: No idea, I just gave you all knowledge I have on the topic ;-)
[04:03] <r00723r0> lol
[04:03] <r00723r0> thanks
[04:03] <Badm4n> :( no one can help ?
[04:03] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: gracias amigo :-)
[04:03] <r00723r0> anyone else know?
[04:03] <r00723r0> how i can make ubuntu recognize wpa?
[04:04] <dooglus> tell r00723r0 about wpa
[04:04] <dooglus> !tell r00723r0 about wpa
[04:04] <r00723r0> COOL
[04:04] <r00723r0> ubotu is awesome
[04:04] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, r00723r0
[04:04] <r00723r0> ubotu: hi
[04:04] <ubotu> que tal, r00723r0
[04:04] <[linner> linner | AWAY
[04:04] <r00723r0> WHEEE
[04:04] <slew> hi, im using the default sound card thats built into my mobo, a via something. do i need extra drivers for this?
[04:05] <slew> its currently working.
[04:05] <dooglus> cafuego: you're still wearing that cloak of invisibility I see :)
[04:05] <r00723r0> !tell me about wpa
[04:05] <khermans> ubotu easyrepo is sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <ubotu> khermans: okay
[04:05] <r00723r0> i have a question
[04:05] <r00723r0> to get wpa_supplicant, do i need an active net connection?
[04:05] <cafuego> khermans: That might mess up the line for security
[04:06] <cafuego> r00723r0: Most likely, yes.
[04:06] <r00723r0> damnit
[04:06] <cantona> hi, anyone how to dd and scp to backup hdd at same time?
[04:06] <r00723r0> slew, if it aint broken, dont fix it
[04:06] <dooglus> does it matter if security has universe and multiverse as well?  what's the problem?
[04:06] <cafuego> !rule 1
[04:06] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[04:06] <Badm4n> Question : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [04:06] <Badm4n> ubotu: Linksys
[04:06] <ubotu> Badm4n: What?
[04:06] <r00723r0> WHEEEE
[04:07] <Badm4n> ubotu: Linksys wusb11 v2.5
[04:07] <ubotu> Badm4n: I don't know
[04:07] <r00723r0> ubotu is the hacks
[04:07] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, r00723r0
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> Setting up libmodplug0 (0.7-3) ...
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> Setting up libxine1 (1.0-1ubuntu3.3) ...
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> Setting up xine-ui (0.99.3-1ubuntu1) ...
[04:07] <r00723r0> ubotu++
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> wasthat it?
[04:07] <Badm4n> Question : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [04:07] <kelbizzle_> wheres xine
[04:07] <sajd> xine video player
[04:07] <Netslayer> when i open synaptic i can see a sun-j2re1.5 but i don't see an sdk for it? where can i get that...do i have the wrong name?
[04:07] <cafuego> Badm4n: The fact that nobody answered despite you repeating the same question every 15 minutes for the past 2 hours should be a fair indication nobody knows. try google.
[04:08] <cafuego> Netslayer: You need to download it from Sun; then convert it according to the instructions on the wiki.
[04:08] <Badm4n> i have try uncle google
[04:08] <Badm4n> but ubunto forum have same question :(
[04:08] <khermans> cafuego, why would it mess up anything
[04:08] <Netslayer> cafuego, thx
[04:08] <stran> greetings!
[04:08] <khermans> cafuego, there are universe and multiverse security updates
[04:08] <Badm4n> i thought someone here had that problem b4 and solved :(
[04:08] <Badm4n> :D
[04:09] <stran> anyone good with bluetooth?
[04:09] <cafuego> khermans: There are? I thought they were unsupported.
[04:09] <khermans> cafuego, no they definitely exaist -- i use them
[04:09] <linner|AWAY> do you guys know how to disabled the updating the clock at boot?
[04:09] <puff> How do i figure out what /dev/foo belongs to my USB drive?
[04:09] <cafuego> khermans: Cool, ignore what I said then :-)
[04:09] <slew> does anyone know where the pkg-config path is?
[04:09] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Howdy all,  I was just wondering if anyone had some time to tell me "your" opinion on Ubuntu.  I was bout to try out Fedora but saw Ubuntu and thought I've give it a looksy.
[04:09] <kelbizzle_> how do i play mp3s?
[04:09] <cafuego> puff: dmesg
[04:10] <cafuego> !tell kelbizzle_ -about restictedformats
[04:10] <jedrick> How to install .deb file?
[04:10] <khermans> cafuego, see here --> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/
[04:10] <fanopnaic> jedrick: dpkg -i
[04:10] <NoUse> !deb
[04:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:10] <cafuego> d'oh
[04:10] <dooglus> jedrick: sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>
[04:10] <stran> xUnk- it's pretty sweet. much better than fedora
[04:10] <cafuego> !tell kelbizzle_ -about restrictedformats
[04:10] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: Check what ubotu just told you :-)
[04:10] <stran> as in muuuch better. but then I've never been a redhat guy
[04:10] <jedrick> ok thnx
[04:10] <puff> cafuego: something should be added to the dmesg output when i plug in my usb rive?
[04:11] <cafuego> puff: yep, something about /dev/sdX
[04:11] <khermans> !tell khermans about easyrepos
[04:11] <cafuego> puff: On breezy, it should also just show up on the desktop.
[04:11] <x[uNkNoWn] x> How better?  More stable, GUI ?
[04:11] <khermans> !tell khermans about easyrepo
[04:11] <cafuego> robert11: OH ... MY ... GOD
[04:11] <puff> cafuego: dmesg | fgrep -i /dev" --> nothing.
[04:12] <puff> cafuego: Normally it just appears, yeah, but not today.
[04:12] <robert11> I am here because
[04:12] <stran> the UI is very stable, though I have to admit I've had problems with ATI's accelerated driver (closed source)
[04:12] <robert11> daughter
[04:12] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Lemme put it this way.  I use 2K and 2K3 Server ..  Was in the mood to try something new for my server but I don't want to jump into Red Hat or anything that complicated yet.
[04:12] <robert11> insists that I tell all that edubuntu is COOL
[04:12] <cafuego> puff: Hmmm.
[04:12] <cafuego> robert11: :-)
[04:12] <stran> my only real complaint with the ui isn't the ui's fault...i'm on a laptop and my xorg.conf file needs occasional updating when devices disappear.
[04:13] <cafuego> robert11: Well, she's not wrong there ;-)
[04:13] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: I never tried fedora, but it's rubbish compared to ubuntu.
[04:13] <robert11> We need a desktop for boys though.
[04:13] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Great.. thats what I am going to test it one.. is my laptop
[04:13] <x[uNkNoWn] x> hehe
[04:13] <stran> well, Linux is not w2k. It just doesn't act the same way
[04:13] <khermans> how long does it take ubotu to update?
[04:13] <Badm4n> sorry i have other question
[04:13] <slew>  x[uNkNoWn] x try mandriva
[04:13] <cafuego> khermans: update what?
[04:13] <khermans> it didnt reply to my new factoid
[04:13] <Badm4n> what diferent between kbuntu and ubuntu
[04:13] <x[uNkNoWn] x> What is Mandriva?
[04:13] <slew> Badm4n, KDE
[04:13] <khermans> i did slash msg ubotu factoid
[04:13] <Badm4n> except the first letter
[04:14] <stran> another distro
[04:14] <stran> frankly, I think you'll enjoy ubuntu
[04:14] <khermans> x[uNkNoWn] x, old Mandrake
[04:14] <cafuego> khermans: You're not an identified user, you aren't allowed to /msg it.
[04:14] <dooglus> Badm4n: start with ubuntu.  subtract GNOME, add KDE.  you've got kubuntu
[04:14] <x[uNkNoWn] x> What would be the best for bigginners?
[04:14] <Badm4n> if i;m not wrong ubuntu GNOME ?
[04:14] <cafuego> !easyrepo
[04:14] <ubotu> easyrepo is, like, totally, sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <khermans> cafuego, oh lol -- and i couldnt do a ! either
[04:14] <slew> x[uNkNoWn] x, mandriva is a good distro for beginners
[04:14] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'd be doing FTP, WWW, and Mail Serving.
[04:14] <khermans> told me to msg it directly
[04:14] <slew> x[uNkNoWn] x, also linspire
[04:14] <dooglus> Badm4n: they should call it gubuntu really to remove all this confusion :)
[04:14] <cribeiro> Mandiriva is another distro. The names is Mandrake + Conectiva - two older distros that merged
[04:15] <Badm4n> doodz :D
[04:15] <Badm4n> opppss
[04:15] <cafuego> khermans: That only happens when a user goes '!tell myself about foo' (to cut down on spam)
[04:15] <Badm4n> dooglus :P
[04:15] <khermans> cafuego, yeah i just identified
[04:15] <stran> !tell myself about bluetooth
[04:15] <stran> lol
[04:15] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Okay.. I'ma go check out Mandriva then. bbiab
[04:15] <khermans> x[uNkNoWn] x, no!!
[04:15] <cribeiro> Does anyone here use the Ubuntu Launchpad?
[04:16] <x[uNkNoWn] x> No what? I was told to look at mandriva!
[04:16] <robert11> right Gnome VFS and Openoffice
[04:16] <khermans> cribeiro, yeah
[04:16] <dooglus> cribeiro: I've filed a few bugs in launchpad.  I don't like it though
[04:16] <stran> lol.... that's irc for ya
[04:16] <ana> Hi dad
[04:16] <khermans> launchpad is useful
[04:16] <cribeiro> What can I do too have a spec reviewed?
[04:16] <khermans> needed it to do ShipIt
[04:16] <jedrick> where can i get this file libqt3c102-mt ? im trying to install skye, and got the missing file
[04:16] <cribeiro> s/too/to
[04:16] <robert11> hello anna. Keep to the subject which is ubuntu
[04:16] <Badm4n> oh yes.. one more question....  shipit to INDONESIA really free or there are cost for shipping ?
[04:17] <Badm4n> ana ?
[04:17] <slew> hehehe
[04:17] <slew> ana rocks!
[04:17] <Badm4n> hmmm let seeee .....
[04:17] <khermans> jedrick, should be in the repos
[04:17] <robert11> My daughter on edubuntu
[04:17] <cafuego> robert11: I believe them to not currently be friends.
[04:17] <Badm4n>  may i ask your asl ana ?
[04:17] <Badm4n> :D
[04:17] <devint> can somebody please tell me where i can find a tutorial to install the gnome development headers like gnome.h and glide.h?
[04:17] <jedrick> k i'll try to check
[04:17] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: try the server install of ubuntu rather than mandriva.  then, when you get questions, you can ask us for help :)
[04:17] <khermans> !tell jedrick -about easyrepo
[04:17] <cafuego> Badm4n: Yes, free. Just takes a while (it goes by boat)
[04:17] <robert11> I really have to grovel in fstab?
[04:17] <slew> Badm4n, dude, her dad is right there!
[04:17] <Badm4n> robert11 : i wanna be your son in law on edubuntu then
[04:17] <cribeiro> khermans: I have a spec on the Launchpad that I would like to push :-)
[04:17] <Badm4n> cafuego : i see...
[04:17] <Badm4n> thx
[04:17] <cafuego> devint: The easiest solution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt
[04:18] <khermans> im no guy here, i just help when  can
[04:18] <cribeiro> khermans: for better support for MIDI & SoundFonts on Ubuntu
[04:18] <dooglus> devint: the easiest way is to "sudo apt-get build-dep gdm".  that will get you lots of gnome development packages.
[04:18] <ana> I prefer edubuntu
[04:18] <Badm4n> slew .... take it easy ... i'm his future son in law
[04:18] <Badm4n> ":D
[04:18] <cafuego> robert11: Unless you can be bothered with FUSE, sshfs and autofs....:-)
[04:18] <stran> seriously... bluetooth mouse....anyone?
[04:18] <dooglus> stran: no thanks
[04:18] <robert11> It needs solving properly
[04:18] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'm looking for tut / docs on Ubu's site right now.   I like to try and figure it out on my own first.  I was just needing some advise as to what is a better os to try.
[04:18] <robotgeek> devint: you can also apt-cache showsrc package, and copy paste the dependencies
[04:19] <phinnaeus> stran: what you selling it?
[04:19] <robert11> I understand its not easy
[04:19] <stran> look, not selling....need some help getting it working :)
[04:19] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: ubuntu is a good dist to try.  I'm using it on a laptop right now without problems
[04:19] <stran> you wouldn't want it anyway... m$ mouse :)
[04:19] <cafuego> robert11: Well, if and when the gnome file dialogs get hacked into OOo2 it will probably be sorted.
[04:19] <stran> yah, i'm on a laptop... no problems
[04:19] <phinnaeus> stran: lol just kidding
[04:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I heard someone had problems with drivers and their laptop?
[04:19] <slew> Badm4n, hehe right on. was just joking anyway. =]
[04:20] <Badm4n> you know.... in BAHASA INDONESIA ... buntu mean .... dead end...
[04:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'd be using my laptop as well..   What problems are occuring so I'd know what to look for.
[04:20] <phinnaeus> stran: assume you are on 5.10
[04:20] <devint> wow
[04:20] <stran> yah
[04:20] <devint> is there an apt utility to remove all packages that aren't used?
[04:20] <stran> sorry, I dunno how to address individuals... many years have passed since I was last on irc
[04:21] <chesty> hello, how do I temporarily stop hotplug from managing the pluging in of a usb stick?
[04:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> IRC ownz
[04:21] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: I've found firewire support to be patchy.  but that's the case in every linux distribution I've tried.
[04:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> ;)
[04:21] <bimberi> devint: debfoster
[04:21] <cafuego> devint: 'deborphan' lists them, you can pipe the output into 'dpkg -P'
[04:21] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: other than that, it's fine
[04:21] <phinnaeus> stran: applications-->add apps-->system tools and look for the bluetooth ones
[04:21] <phinnaeus> stran: thats my guess
[04:21] <ana> what are we talking about?
[04:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I don't use firewire so thats okay.
[04:21] <thechitowncubs> Howdy.
[04:22] <Badm4n> ana : would you mind to start sshd services ? so ican sshd you ( i mean .. PV you rite now on irc :D )
[04:22] <slew> go cubs!
[04:22] <x[uNkNoWn] x> mm'ka.. I'ma go ahead and try Ubuntu..     Any pointers?
[04:22] <cribeiro> dooglus and/or khermans: once again... how can I have a specification reviewed?
[04:22] <robert11> You will have to get through her dads FIREWALL first!
[04:22] <khermans> cribeiro, dude im not a main guy -- no diea
[04:22] <annaandlev> hi
[04:22] <annaandlev> how do i set up wpa?
[04:22] <dooglus> cribeiro: I've no idea, sorry.
[04:22] <khermans> annaandlev, wpasupplicant
[04:22] <cribeiro> khermans: thanks anyway!
[04:23] <dooglus> cribeiro: I don't know if mailing the ubuntu-devel list is the right thing to do, but it might be.
[04:23] <cribeiro> dooglus: thanks too! I'm just a little bit frustrated
[04:23] <annaandlev> root@levandia:/home/annaandlev# apt-get install wpasupplicant
[04:23] <annaandlev> Reading package lists... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> E: Couldn't find package wpasupplicant
[04:23] <cafuego> Badm4n: Chatting up an 8-year-old on irc is not cool.
[04:23] <dooglus> !wpa
[04:23] <ubotu> [wpa]  sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[04:23] <annaandlev> root@levandia:/home/annaandlev# apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[04:23] <annaandlev> Reading package lists... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> E: Couldn't find package wpa_supplicant
[04:23] <khermans> !tell annaandlev about easyrepo
[04:23] <Badm4n> cafuego :p
[04:23] <dabaR_> !paste
[04:23] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:24] <z3r0x> hi
[04:24] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Ubuntu is only 1 CD?   Is it really that small or do you have to update via web site updates after install?
[04:24] <annaandlev> x[uNkNoWn] x, there are some updates
[04:24] <annaandlev> but everything is installed
[04:24] <annaandlev> (at first)
[04:24] <Lathiat> x[uNkNoWn] x: yes it is, that 1 cd gives you a full install, you can install additional programs of the internet however
[04:24] <dabaR_> x[uNkNoWn] x: your question is not good, let me explain...
[04:24] <Xenguy> x[uNkNoWn] x: that is the whole point - you install and upgrade over the Net
[04:24] <dabaR_> x[uNkNoWn] x: or let Lathiat say what I wanted to...
[04:24] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Intresting.    Obviously the CD doesn't include every package you could ever need though
[04:26] <dooglus> annaandlev: what?
[04:26] <annaandlev> #paste
[04:26] <dabaR_> devint: you have asked ubotu where the file is in which package?
[04:26] <dooglus> annaandlev: you need to enable the universe repo first
[04:26] <annaandlev> i did
[04:26] <z3r0x> I have an error with my mct_u232 module -> MCT USB-RS232: unsupported baudrate request, I found a patch for kernel 2.6.12-rc2 and I have 2.6.12-9-386. Can I use this patch?
[04:26] <annaandlev> root@levandia:/home/annaandlev# sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <dooglus> annaandlev: #paste again - I'm there now
[04:26] <dabaR_> x[uNkNoWn] x: is feeling like a newbie a bad feeling?
[04:26] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Whats the diff between the DVD and CD ISO?   I aint gonna waste a DVD if it dont make a diff.
[04:26] <devint> dabaR_: i have almost every gnome package installed
[04:27] <jonmasters> z3r0x: In all probability you can.
[04:27] <khermans> annaandlev, no do aptitude update
[04:27] <dabaR_> devint: I read that before, and it does not answer my question
[04:27] <cafuego> z3r0x: probably, yes.
[04:27] <jasongrieves> i keep getting lock ups every 5-10 minutes, whihc log should i check, by lock up i mean i have to power off and back on
[04:27] <jonmasters> z3r0x: In all probability, you can.
[04:27] <lightbright> hello
[04:27] <x[uNkNoWn] x> eh.. Newbie aint a bad thing .. gotta start somewere.  :)
[04:27] <dooglus> !wpa
[04:27] <ubotu> it has been said that wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[04:27] <lightbright> where is the guy who was helping me install mplayer by source code?
[04:27] <z3r0x> cafuego, how can I use the patch? where can I find a tutorial how to patch a kernel?
[04:27] <Octane> anyone here have a pop3 solution for yahoo for free?
[04:27] <cafuego> z3r0x: You will need to fetch 'build-essential', 'kernel-package', 'libncurses5-dev' and 'gcc-3.4'
[04:27] <Octane> ypops seems to have gone broke
[04:28] <cafuego> z3r0x: .. and the kernel source.
[04:28] <dooglus> annaandlev: does that extra step fix it?
[04:28] <devint> dabaR_: i understand the question then
[04:28] <khermans> Octane, get gmail already!
[04:28] <annaandlev> yes, it does
[04:28] <robotgeek> Octane: check the webmail extension in thunderbird. there;s also something called fetchmail yahoo
[04:28] <z3r0x> cafuego, I already installed this package..but how can I patch it?
[04:28] <Octane> khermans: have it... but i prefer yahoo :)
[04:28] <devint> all i want s gnome.h why does it have to be so hard?
[04:28] <khermans> Octane, really?
[04:28] <Octane> khermans: ya all my mailing lists go there
[04:28] <annaandlev> dooglus, it doesnt
[04:29] <dabaR> devint: perhaps it ahs to perhaps you did not know where to ask.
[04:29] <annaandlev> nvm
[04:29] <dooglus> devint: it's not hard.
[04:29] <annaandlev> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:29] <cafuego> z3r0x: via the 'patch' command.
[04:29] <devint> everyone's telling me use auto-apt, dpkg --rebuild-whatever, apt-file, etc, etc, etc
[04:29] <annaandlev> i do apt-get update
[04:29] <annaandlev> and try again
[04:29] <annaandlev> does same thing
[04:29] <khermans> devint, gnome-devel ?
[04:29] <blanky> What packages do I need for php4, mysql, and apache servers
[04:29] <devint> khermans: still no gnome.h though
[04:29] <dabaR> devint: I suggest registering your nick if you have not already, and doing: /msg ubotu find gnome.h and seeing what he tells you.
[04:29] <x[uNkNoWn] x> What FTPD and Mail Server works for Ubuntu
[04:29] <cafuego> z3r0x: cd into the kernel source directory, then run 'patch -p1 --dry-run < /path/to/the/patchfile.diff'
[04:29] <z3r0x> cafuego, oh didn't know that there is a patch command. thx I'll look at the manpage
[04:29] <khermans> blanky, php4, mysql-server, apache2
[04:29] <z3r0x> thx
[04:29] <lightbright> anyone know how to install mplayer from the source codes?
[04:30] <cafuego> z3r0x: That TRIED to patch, will print an errors that would occur, but doesn't apply any changes.
[04:30] <blanky> khermans: thanks
[04:30] <dooglus> devint: "find /usr/include -name gnome.h" - does that find it?
[04:30] <z3r0x> cafuego, do I have to unload the module first
[04:30] <dabaR> lightbright: I could find a howto, do you really need to?
[04:30] <robotgeek> devint: libgnomeui-dev:
[04:30] <cafuego> blanky: apache2-mpm-prefork, mysql-server, libapache2-mod-php4, php4-mysql
[04:30] <annaandlev> how do i add wpasupplicant to the default runlevel on reboot?
[04:30] <annaandlev> sorry, new to ubuntu
[04:30] <jasongrieves> i keep getting lock ups every 5-10 minutes, whihc log should i check, by lock up i mean i have to power off and back on
[04:30] <cafuego> z3r0x: Not now, no.
[04:30] <devint> dooglus: yes, but there in directories such as libgnomeui and gnome-1.0
[04:31] <lightbright> dabaR: does the mplayer work properly using apt-get?
[04:31] <devint> robotgeek: let me try that
[04:31] <dabaR> lightbright: yes.
[04:31] <dooglus> devint: that's where it belongs
[04:31] <annaandlev> e.g. how do i make wpasupplicant run on startup?
[04:31] <devint> robotgeek: already sintalled :-)
[04:31] <dabaR> lightbright: its in multiverse IIRC
[04:31] <z3r0x> cafuego, ok and do I have to recompile the kernel or do something after patching it?
[04:31] <lightbright> dabaR: is it possible to get open programs showing on taskbar so I can click to switch programs?
[04:31] <Octane> robotgeek: fetchmail -- "`x86_64-unknown' not recognized"
[04:32] <robotgeek> Octane: fetchmail or fetchyahoo ?
[04:32] <annaandlev> e.g. how do i make wpasupplicant run on startup?
[04:32] <Octane> fetchmail
[04:32] <dabaR> lightbright: its called the panel, you want an area in the bottom panel that shows you all open windows?
[04:32] <dooglus> libgnome-dev has /usr/include/gnome-1.0/gnome.h and libgnomeui-dev has /usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0/gnome.h
[04:32] <lightbright> dabaR: is the only way to switch between programs by shift+alt ?
[04:32] <Octane> ahh fetchyahoo uses fetchamil no?
[04:32] <annaandlev> alt+tab
[04:32] <lightbright> dabaR: yeah, is that possible, because now I have to  switch between programs by shift+alt
[04:32] <annaandlev> what is the command to add programs to startup
[04:32] <devint> dooglus: wait, so you're telling me I have to #include <libgnomeui-2.0/gnome.h> ?
[04:32] <annaandlev> !startup
[04:32] <ubotu> annaandlev: I haven't a clue
[04:32] <robotgeek> Octane: no fetchmail is different
[04:32] <lightbright> shitft+tab sorry
[04:32] <dabaR> lightbright: no in fact you have by default that what you want in gnome. are you using ubuntu?
[04:32] <dooglus> devint: or use a -I compile flag
[04:33] <blanky> cafuego should I install them in all at once or one after the other in taht order
[04:33] <z3r0x> cafuego, stupid question...I cant find /usr/src/linux....there is only a rpm directory
[04:33] <annaandlev> what is the command to add programs to startup
[04:33] <lightbright> dabaR: using breeze
[04:33] <lightbright> annaandlev: what?
[04:33] <annaandlev> when a computer starts up
[04:33] <annaandlev> it runs programs
[04:33] <lightbright> annaandlev: say it again Sam :)
[04:33] <annaandlev> how do i add an init.d program for startup?
[04:34] <robotgeek> dooglus: libgnome2-dev -> libgnome.h
[04:34] <lightbright> annaandlev:  and again :)
[04:34] <annaandlev> ?
[04:34] <lightbright> dabaR: using breeze 5.10 Ubuntu
[04:34] <dabaR> lightbright: hm, why is it not there... right click on the bottom panel, and select add to panel. In the list, select one that does that, I think it is called the "Window List" not sure though, I stopped using gnome(the desktop environment), a while ago...
[04:34] <dooglus> annaandlev: you link it into /etc/rc[2345] .d/
[04:34] <cafuego> z3r0x: yes, you will need to rebuild the kernel.
[04:34] <annaandlev> explain dooglus
[04:34] <lightbright> dabaR: you using Ubuntu with KDE?
[04:35] <lightbright> dabaR: window list worked, thanks :)
[04:35] <dabaR> lightbright: its called openbox, you can search the ubuntuforums.org for "stormy eyes openbox"
[04:35] <z3r0x> cafuego, with make && make modules_install ?
[04:35] <robotgeek> annaandlev: or go to cd /etc/init.d/ , and put all you want to execute in a script and say sudo update-rc.d script defaults
[04:35] <lightbright> dabaR: why do you prefer openbox over gnome and KDE?
[04:35] <mikelinux> simple
[04:35] <Se7h> is there any problem with the v4l ? when i try to capture a frame from the webcam the whole system freezes :|
[04:36] <mikelinux> and light
[04:36] <dabaR> lightbright: do you use a fork if you prefer a spoon, or chop sticks? I use openbox.
[04:36] <robotgeek> devint: dpkg -S <file> will tell you which package provides a file
[04:37] <lightbright> dabaR: well I would tell you why I would prefer a spoon over chop sticks if you asked me
[04:37] <lightbright> dabaR:  I guess you cant tell me
[04:37] <dabaR> lightbright: because it is minimal, and that is what I prefer rigth now. No this and that, just what I need.
[04:37] <devint> robotgeek: thank you
[04:37] <blanky> sould IU use mysql-server-4.1 or mysql-server
[04:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i edit file associations?
[04:37] <robotgeek> blanky: 4.1
[04:38] <blanky> kay
[04:38] <dabaR> lightbright: I misread, I thought it said do I prefer it over them.
[04:38] <khermans> blanky, just use mysql-server
[04:38] <lightbright> dabaR: ok thanks for sharing
[04:38] <khermans> blanky, if you want to get all the stuff in one shot -- install phpmyadmin
[04:38] <lightbright> dabaR:  im new to Ubuntu and learning
[04:39] <robotgeek> khermans: 4.0 has a bug
[04:39] <khermans> blanky, phpmyadmin is good for first time users to administer their mysql db
[04:39] <khermans> robotgeek, all software have bugs
[04:39] <linkd> its good all around
[04:39] <blanky> >: ( I already isntalled server :'(
[04:39] <robotgeek> blanky: get 4.1
[04:39] <z3r0x> cafuego, hm it couldn't find the file... drivers/usb/serial/mct_u232.c
[04:39] <robotgeek> khermans: it prevents from starting mysql server easily
[04:39] <blanky> for postfix configuration, should I choose internet site or local only
[04:39] <khermans> robotgeek, i have no issues
[04:39] <blanky> I wnat it to be local, but I want to access it through IP too
[04:39] <dabaR> lightbright: if you would like to see about openbox, and see how to install and start using, testing it out, search the forums for "openbox stormy eyes" like I said above, wasnt sure you caught it.
[04:40] <mrkris> hiya, lookin for xorgconfig for textmode configuration yet I do not see it on the system, does it exist in a seperate package?
[04:40] <lightbright> whats difference between installing mplayer-586  and mplayer-386  ?
[04:40] <khermans> blanky, thats a matter of firewalling -- to port 3306
[04:40] <zasilom> haveing a few problems installing Ubuntu on a serial-ata raid0 system..i can get it to see raid array..and install to it...but grub hangs every time...tried to install to a single SATA drive and same problem...useing a gigabyte board and ICH6 chipset...anyone have a suggestion?
[04:40] <lightbright> dabaR: ok ty
[04:40] <mrkris> lightbright, optimizations?
[04:40] <khermans> lightbright, the compilation of 586 uses faster instrauctions instead of 386
[04:40] <lightbright> mrkris: what?
[04:41] <lightbright> khermans: so you recommend I install 586?
[04:41] <dabaR> lightbright: you should do "uname -a" in a terminal, to find our which to install
[04:41] <khermans> lightbright, yes
[04:41] <nadia> trying to get my win xp box to view the share folder I have on my ubuntu box.  I get the username & pass prompt, but when I enter the username and pass that I use to get into the ubuntu box it doesn't like it.
[04:41] <dabaR> khermans: are you saying this cause you know, or are you just making it up along the way?
[04:41] <lightbright> dabaR: it said: Linux 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:41] <khermans> dabaR, ?
[04:41] <lightbright> dabaR:  so I cant install the mplayer-586?
[04:41] <khermans> i havent said anything weird
[04:42] <khermans> lightbright, yes 686 supercedes 856 -- install 586
[04:42] <mrkris> anyone know if xorgconfig is a seperate package or part of xorg ?
[04:42] <lightbright> khermans: can I install 586, even though my kernel says 386?
[04:42] <tritium> lightbright, most likely you can.  What processor do you have?  (if you don't know, cat /proc/cpuinfo)
[04:42] <dabaR> lightbright: it seems your kernel is a 386 one.
[04:42] <NightBird> nadia, I'm haveing the same problem...
[04:42] <NightBird> if you get anywhere, let me know :P
[04:42] <khermans> lightbright, the kernel may be 386 -- but 586 for mplayer is okay
[04:42] <lightbright> tritium: Celeron 800
[04:43] <nadia> nightbird, are you getting the prompt at least?
[04:43] <NightBird> yeah
[04:43] <lightbright> dabaR:  so can I still install mplayer-586?
[04:43] <khermans> yes
[04:43] <tritium> lightbright, 586 is fine.  You can also install linux-686 if you'd like to
[04:43] <NightBird> what I would like is that the people on a certain domain has read access from a certain directory
[04:43] <dabaR> lightbright: listen to tritium
[04:43] <nadia> nightbird, did you make the ubuntu a member of the win workgroup?
[04:43] <blanky> where is my apache folder so I can put things in it
[04:43] <khermans> lightbright, yes listen to tritium -- upgrade your kernel if you want even more optimization
[04:43] <lightbright> dabaR: yeah but does tritium know what his talking about? :)
[04:43] <NightBird> nadia, I don't have any control over the domain/workgroup
[04:44] <lightbright> tritium:  ;)
[04:44] <lightbright> khermans: how do I update my kernel?
[04:44] <tritium> lightbright, you're free to get second opinions ;)
[04:44] <dabaR> lightbright: would I tell you if he did not? or are you just mocking my question to khermans ?
[04:44] <khermans> lightbright, sudo aptitude install linux-686 ?
[04:44] <lightbright> dabaR: what?
[04:44] <nadia> nightbird, you can make ubuntu a member of the domain/workgroup.  they have to be on the same one don't they?
[04:44] <khermans> hey, im not making things up@
[04:44] <blanky> where can I find my apache server to add stuff to it, my www folder or whatever its called
[04:45] <tritium> lightbright, listen to dabaR and khermans :)
[04:45] <khermans> blanky, /var/www
[04:45] <dabaR> lightbright: You asked whether tritium knows what he is saying. After I recommended his opinion, and that is why I did so, cause he knows.
[04:45] <robert11> Hi blanky /var/www
[04:45] <NightBird> nadia, no idea
[04:45] <dabaR> lightbright: So I was wondering was that just a joke cause of my previous question to khermans.
[04:45] <StDellis> is there anyway to play windows games on linux? I wanna play risk 2 without having to go over to my windows partition all the time
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> okay
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> so
[04:45] <khermans> StDellis, yes use cedega
[04:45] <fanopnaic> StDellis: www.transgaming.com
[04:45] <tritium> dabaR, khermans :)
[04:45] <khermans> :-)
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> where does one go to get the w32codecs from again?
[04:46] <nadia> nightbird, can you see the ubuntu box when you check your network computers on your winxp box?
[04:46] <StDellis> doesnt cedega cost money though
[04:46] <dabaR> pretty funny altogether:) and my long explanation of a trivial matter...
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> i had to completely reinstall because of Fedora Core4 and its braindead anaconda installer
[04:46] <khermans> !tell shadeofgrey about w32codecs
[04:46] <khermans> StDellis, yes
[04:47] <StDellis> khermans damn no free alternativeds?
[04:47] <bur[n] er> StDellis: there's wine
[04:47] <ithiel> StDellis, wine and cedega are windows API translators that are capable of running most windows applications
[04:49] <khermans> StDellis, it costs a little bit -- but worth it if you gamer
[04:49] <hoew> shadeofgrey: I liked the installation from the ubuntu-lite CD
[04:49] <khermans> or, if you like newsgroups, http://www.newzbin.com/browse/post/1566122/
[04:49] <mrkris> ANYONE in here have xorgconfig/xorgcfg on there system?
[04:49] <tritium> mrkris, that's not what you want to use
[04:50] <tritium> mrkris, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:50] <mrkris> tritium, i am having difficult times configuring my triple-head display by hand
[04:50] <tritium> mrkris, I see...
[04:51] <blanky> thanks for the www folder
[04:51] <mrkris> I use xorgconfig textmode to configure it, and it worked great
[04:51] <shadeofgrey> hoew:  well its good to know that your finally usijng ubuntu... onew of the few linux distros worth their weight in binary these days
[04:52] <bob832> hi, quick question:  is there a way to have an address bar to be displayed in nautilus?
[04:53] <dabaR> bob832: yes, did you use hoary at all?
[04:53] <bob832> alittle
[04:53] <blanky> how can I make a shortcut to /var/www on my desktop (GNOME)
[04:53] <dabaR> bob832: so you mean like it was default there?
[04:54] <dabaR> blanky: add a shortcut for this command: nautilus file:///var/www
[04:54] <shadeofgrey> okay i put the seveas keys into my apt database, but what line am i supposed to enter into my sources.luist file?
[04:54] <bob832> i think . . .its been awhile. . .what i am thinking of is similar to how windows does it
[04:54] <dabaR> bob832: cause you are not asking for a browser address bar, but a path bar rather
[04:54] <dabaR> instead of the little bubbles.
[04:54] <bob832> path bar, yes
[04:55] <Terminus> bob832, use ctrl+l
[04:55] <dabaR> bob832: Apps>Sys TOols>COnf edit, let me know when you get lost,,,
[04:55] <nickrud> Terminus, a nice trick
[04:55] <dabaR> bob832: try what he says, does it work?
[04:56] <mrkris> tritium, reconfiguring only allows one display, any idea how to do all
[04:56] <Terminus> hehe. i was looking for it before but i didn't try to actually tweak gconf like dabaR is suggesting.
[04:56] <bob832> it changed it to a path bar. . .but when i closed the window and reopened it, it was back to how it was before
[04:56] <nickrud> clt alt esc, clt l , nice
[04:57] <dabaR> Terminus: oh, wow, good.
[04:57] <Terminus> bob832, yeah... that's only temporary. if you want it permanent, do as dabar says.
[04:57] <khermans> bob832, you can keep the bar as a setting in gconf i believe
[04:57] <varsendagger> can i use xmms alone to play cd's?
[04:57] <brodel> If I just wanted to make a PC that was JUST for firefox, Would doing a "server" install and then adding XFCE4 core and then firefox be the way to go?
[04:57] <StDellis> how do I install snes9x or whatever once I have downloaded it from synaptic
[04:57] <blanky> wait a minute, in my apache (/var/www) folder I cant add anything cause I'm not root :'(
[04:57] <tritium> mrkris, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand, I'd say
[04:57] <dooglus> what package can provide port-forwarding?
[04:57] <dabaR> well, its under Apps>Nautilus>Prefs the always use locatin bar option.
[04:57] <khermans> blanky, just use sudo -s
[04:58] <Terminus> bob832, fire up gconf. it's in apps -> nautilus -> preferences.
[04:58] <mrkris> tritium, yeah, that's a pain, as i can barely remember how to do so, but ok :)
[04:58] <dooglus> StDellis: synaptic downloads and installs.  you don't need to do anything
[04:58] <tritium> mrkris, what type of video chipset?
[04:58] <Terminus> bob832, under always_use_location_entry.
[04:58] <dooglus> khermans: suggest 'sudo -i' instead.  it's a little safer
[04:58] <mrkris> 2 nvidia and 1 ati
[04:58] <khermans> dooglus, why?
[04:58] <bob832> ah i see
[04:58] <ccc_> hmmm... are multimedia buttons on the keyboard which Xev doesn't recognise unusable/dead, or is there a way to map them?
[04:58] <John_Dunbar> This is how i turn my internet on right now.."dhclient3 etho"..how do i make it stay on at startup?
[04:58] <dooglus> khermans: because it gives you the root environment.  root's PATH, HOME, etc.
[04:58] <bob832> yep that did it
[04:58] <StDellis> dooglus how do I play snes9-x cause its not under applications
[04:58] <dabaR> dooglus: ipmasq perhaps
[04:59] <pegasus> i am angry that my kiax keeps gettign installed by ubuntu
[04:59] <tritium> mrkris, /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README (or something like that) contains info on configuring nvidia TwinView, etc.
[04:59] <khermans> dooglus, why is that safer?
[04:59] <blanky> whats the difference between sudo -s and sudo
[04:59] <mrkris> thnx :)
[04:59] <khermans> pegasus, hey dude whats up/
[04:59] <bob832> thanks Terminus, dabaR, khermans
[04:59] <dabaR> just read man sudo
[04:59] <bimberi> mrkris: or if you've got (or can find) an xorg.conf that worked for you... (just a thought)
[04:59] <mrkris> yeah :)
[04:59] <khermans> blanky, sudo -s drops you into the shell -- sudo without -s waits for an immediate command
[05:00] <varsendagger> can i use xmms to listen to cd's?
[05:00] <tritium> varsendagger, yes, there is an input plugin for it
[05:00] <khermans> bob832, i read it -- dont see why it is safer
[05:00] <StDellis> once I have downloaded and installed snes-9x or whatever how do I play it?
[05:00] <dooglus> khermans: suppose someone has compromised your user account but not root.  they've put a trojan 'ls' in ~youruser/bin and added ~youruser/bin to your PATH.  you "sudo -s" and then "ls" and you're screwed.  on the other hand, you "sudo -i" and then "ls" and you're fine.
[05:00] <Terminus> John_Dunbar, edit your /etc/network/interfaces and add iface eth0 inet dhcp \n auto eth0. \n = newline
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  you need some SNES roms.
[05:00] <StDellis> dr_willis I think it came with some
[05:01] <omnid> So I have a .RPM file I do not know how to install.
[05:01] <omnid> It's drivers to my sound card.
[05:01] <omnid> I'm trying that first.
[05:01] <lightbright> tritium: how do I update the kernel from 2.6.12-9-386 >
[05:01] <lightbright> ?
[05:01] <varsendagger> StDellis, probably not
[05:01] <nicholas_paul> Q: I have a network here, but this computer aint showing up on it. Should i edit more than smb.conf, or is that all there is it it?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  perhaps. never noticed. :P  just select file, in the menus and load the roms.
[05:01] <tritium> lightbright, sudo apt-get install linux-686
[05:01] <varsendagger> hey there shold be a ubot alien command
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  it may of come with a demo/pd rom or 2.
[05:01] <dooglus> StDellis: run "snes9x" from a terminal prompt
[05:01] <xhaker_> hey.. how do i disable Xscreensaver startup ?
[05:01] <khermans> dooglus, imagine this -- they compromise your account, which has full admin privileges in /etc/sudoers
[05:02] <khermans> dooglus, game is already over!
[05:02] <varsendagger> omnid you need alien
[05:02] <kelley> hello
[05:02] <khermans> bob832, see my comment above
[05:02] <varsendagger> you should be able to apt-get it
[05:02] <lightbright> tritium: after that is installed, do I reboot and its made available in grub menu?
[05:02] <dooglus> khermans: ok, they don't get your password - but they get to install some files as you...
[05:02] <tritium> lightbright, yep :)
[05:02] <runelind> so I can't seem to be able to apt-get wpa supplicant
[05:02] <runelind> I have the universe repository I thought
[05:02] <xhaker_> i mean.. the "daemon"..
[05:02] <runelind> and I did apt-get update
[05:02] <khermans> dooglus, who needs your password?
[05:02] <dooglus> khermans: sudo does
[05:02] <nicholas_paul> Shouldnt i just add 'workgroup = home' ?
[05:02] <khermans> is you have full rights in sudoers?
[05:02] <tritium> runedude, you're not using the right name.  apt-cache search supplicant, and you'll see the proper package name
[05:03] <omnid> !tell omnid about rpm
[05:03] <xhaker_> it's being launched where?
[05:03] <omnid> Oops sorry
[05:03] <dooglus> khermans: when you run 'sudo' it prompts for your password
[05:03] <blanky> can anyone tell me why my apache isn't working, it's at http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[05:03] <nicholas_paul> damn.... this should be easy..
[05:03] <runelind> tritium: no hits
[05:03] <tritium> Hi [linner]  :)
[05:03] <lightbright> tritium: well thats interesting to learn that a person with a 386 Celeron 800 CPU can install a linux-686 kernel!  I didnt know that before
[05:03] <khermans> dooglus, there are obviousl ways around that ;-P
[05:03] <[linner] > ok.... someone please tell me what i do to make an app show up in the "applications" drop down
[05:03] <tritium> !info wpasupplicant
[05:03] <runelind> I must've added the repositories wrong
[05:03] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.4.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 149 kB, Installed size: 404 kB
[05:03] <[linner] > tritium, hey there :)
[05:03] <khermans> dooglus, but i see your point in that case
[05:03] <tritium> runelind, it's there in universe ;)
[05:04] <[linner] > i was just looking for you tritium  :)
[05:04] <varsendagger> omnid, you need to download alien and then alien -i yourpackage.rpm
[05:04] <runelind> yeah I know
[05:04] <[linner] > how are you?
[05:04] <mrkris> tritium, unable to find nvidia-glx :-x
[05:04] <runelind> I must've just added the repositories wrong
[05:04] <tritium> [linner] , oh, really?  I'm here.  What's up?
[05:04] <varsendagger> and by the way you can't talk to ubotu if you ar't registered
[05:04] <dabaR> varsendagger: download is not very descriptiveof the process
[05:04] <[linner] > i'm trying to figure out how to do three things
[05:04] <varsendagger> --i'd really like to register
[05:05] <nicholas_paul> come on, i must have done something reeeaaaly obvious wrong.
[05:05] <dabaR> varsendagger: and why do you not then?
[05:05] <nicholas_paul> Anyone?
[05:05] <dooglus> khermans: what are the ways around sudo needing a password?
[05:05] <varsendagger> sudo apt-get install
[05:05] <varsendagger> i don't know how
[05:05] <khermans> dooglus, hehe
[05:05] <varsendagger> dabaR,
[05:05] <dabaR> varsendagger: /msg nickserv help register
[05:05] <nicholas_paul> dooglus, i'm sure thats in the starter guide.
[05:05] <varsendagger> .... that did me no good
[05:05] <dooglus> khermans: no, really.
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> does anybodyneed help with something that HASNT been  helped yet?
[05:06] <runelind> tritium: yep, added repositories wrong :)
[05:06] <nicholas_paul> yes shadeofgrey
[05:06] <runelind> <--- newb
[05:06] <dabaR> varsendagger: really? /msg nickserv register<passwordHere>
[05:06] <John_Dunbar> Terminus..thank you
[05:06] <dooglus> shadeofgrey: I'm looking for a port-forwarding package.  know of one?
[05:06] <mrkris> shadeofgrey, trying to find xorgconfig :)
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> doesn't nautilus have a tab view?  i no longer seem to have that option. :/
[05:06] <tritium> runelind, good deal
[05:06] <varsendagger> ahh
[05:06] <khermans> dooglus, export the PS4 env variable
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone here know whether nautilus does have a tab view?
[05:06] <dooglus> khermans: that doesn't work any more
[05:06] <calderstrake> is there an updated guide for 5.1 yet?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> BROKEN_LADDER,  i dont rember it ever having one
[05:06] <lightbright> tritium: after I install the 686, will the old kernel still be able to be used just in case?
[05:06] <shadeofgrey> okay...  i dont know very much about xorgconfig -- what are you trying yto accomplish?
[05:06] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, there is, its under Yelp
[05:06] <N6REJ> I need some help changing my hardisk configurtion
[05:07] <calderstrake> which help?
[05:07] <khermans> dooglus, the thing is -- if you are local -- game is probably over
[05:07] <tritium> lightbright, yes
[05:07] <dooglus> khermans: and even if it hadn't been fixed, you still need the user's password.
[05:07] <shadeofgrey> nicholas paul:  ask me your question in a private window
[05:07] <varsendagger> what is a irc client for windows taht my wife can use, that's easy and pretty?
[05:07] <nicholas_paul> ok shade.
[05:07] <khermans> dooglus, especially if you have sudoers
[05:07] <tritium> calderstrake, yelp (gnome's help system) -- the little life-preserver icon
[05:07] <calderstrake> oh.. Yelp
[05:07] <calderstrake> ok
[05:07] <calderstrake> ill check it out now tks :D
[05:07] <bob832> khermans:  following the discussion between you and dooglus and it got me thinking. . . wouldn't it be possible to password lock certain folders so that the only way to access then would be to enter a password?
[05:07] <dabaR> varsendagger: _every_ time you log in, /msg nickserv identify <passwordHere>, then there are ways of getting your nick back if you need to: /msg nickserv recover nick pass, /msg nickserv release nick pass, /nick nick, then identify
[05:07] <lightbright> tritium: do I need to add the new one to the grub menu?
[05:08] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, i cant seem to open a PM !!lol
[05:08] <shadeofgrey> nicholas_paul:  /query shadeofgrey
[05:08] <tritium> lightbright, no, it's done automatically
[05:08] <dooglus> bob832: I use encrpytion on some of my folders.  the only way to mount them is to give a password.  but once they're mounted, anyone can access them
[05:08] <lightbright> dabaR:  fyi, I would never mock you!  my 2nd day using Ubuntu and you have been a great help
[05:08] <dabaR> bob832: that is an ok design idea, however, a little late for Unix systems, which were designed about 20 years ago. man chmod is a command in a terminal you want to run.
[05:09] <lightbright> tritium: thats great
[05:09] <tritium> lightbright, yep :)
[05:09] <dabaR> lightbright: I thought you were making a joke.
[05:09] <lightbright> tritium: here goes: sudo apt-get install linux-686 :)
[05:09] <dabaR> lightbright: Im often here.
[05:09] <tritium> lightbright, enjoy!
[05:09] <dabaR> lightbright: why linux-686, is that a kernel?
[05:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> Dr_Willis that's so bizarre!  i'm SURE it had one
[05:09] <lightbright> dabaR:  no I was not, its just my personallity to be very cautious and get your opinion too as I value your viewpoint
[05:09] <[linner] > hey ya'll what's the syntax for turning off the clock at boot?
[05:10] <tritium> dabaR, I told him too.  It's a meta-package that will pull in the proper linux-restricted-modules, etc.
[05:10] <lightbright> dabaR: sorry?
[05:10] <N6REJ> I need help trying to get my partitions resized pelase
[05:10] <bob832> dooglus: ah i see. . . is it diffcult to install encrpytion ?
[05:10] <lightbright> dabaR: was it you telling me to complie mplayer from source yesterday?
[05:10] <dabaR> lightbright: well, that is why I suggested him in the first place, cause I knew he was not just saying it. That is why I asked khermans cause I was not sure he knew. Are you installing mplayer-686, or linux-686?
[05:10] <dabaR> lightbright: no.
[05:11] <tritium> N6REJ, you might try gparted or qtparted
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR: both
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR: no sorry,
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR:  mplayer -586
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR:  mplayer -586 and linux-686
[05:11] <lightbright> there is a mplayer-686?
[05:11] <N6REJ> tritium: I did that from live cd, and it helped, as the partition is now shrunk very small.  But now I need to add several partitions so I can move things.
[05:11] <dabaR> lightbright: its a transitional package on this system...not sure what it installs, I could try, I guess.
[05:12] <dooglus> bob832: it wasn't too hard, no, but a little messy
[05:12] <tritium> N6REJ, you can't add partitions with it?
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: do Ineed to run it agian from the server itself?
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: nope, won't let me.
[05:12] <lightbright> tritium: im installing mplayer-586 atm and then installing linix-686!  is that what I should do or should I install mplayer 686?
[05:12] <tritium> N6REJ, I've not used it
[05:12] <lightbright> dabaR: ok
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: Its supposed to but...............
[05:12] <bob832> dooglus:  i may look into someday, when i get a better handle of linux...lol
[05:12] <dooglus> bob832: there's a command 'cryptsetup' which I use
[05:12] <dabaR> tritium: can you apt build-src or whatever the command is, for a package that is not in your package list at all?
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: let me go try from the server itself. brb
[05:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there a way to add a "switch user" button to the panel?
[05:12] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, i posted. hope you can help :)
[05:13] <tritium> lightbright, do exactly as you said :)
[05:13] <calderstrake> ok guys... another quick question.. how do i change directory to the 'home' directory?
[05:13] <dooglus> calderstrake: "cd"
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, in what, terminal?
[05:13] <tritium> dabaR, no, sure can't
[05:13] <lightbright> tritium: ok mplayer 586 is nearly installed and then I will ijnstall linux-686 :)
[05:13] <khermans> calderstrake, cd
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, try cd /home/
[05:13] <calderstrake> i know cd...
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> gotcha.
[05:13] <tritium> lightbright, good deal
[05:13] <dabaR> tritium: how about a v package in aptitude? being a virtual one just in case you dont know...
[05:13] <dooglus> nicholas_paul: /home isn't anyone's home directory.
[05:13] <lightbright> tritium: are you a ubuntu developer?
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> thats right dooglus.
[05:13] <bimberi> lightbright: fyi, mplayer-686 is a "Dummy package to upgrade to the new package mplayer-586" :)
[05:14] <lightbright> bimberi: ah ok :)
[05:14] <bob832> cd ~ takes you back to the home directory too
[05:14] <nicholas_paul> dooglus its the only home directory.
[05:14] <dabaR> lightbright: an ubuntu, thats how you pronounce it, oohbuntu
[05:14] <bob832> see i do know SOMETHING about linux . . . lol
[05:14] <tritium> lightbright, nope
[05:14] <dabaR> lightbright: he's just mike.
[05:15] <bimberi> tritium is (yet another) ubunut :)
[05:15] <tritium> lightbright, I occasionally work on universe packages
[05:15] <tritium> bimberi, :)
[05:15] <lightbright> tritium: cool :)
[05:15] <lightbright> dabaR: ok :)
[05:15] <paxmaster> is there a gui for Ldap
[05:16] <dabaR> bob832: so does cd<enter>
[05:16] <lightbright> after installing mplayer-586, do I need to install w32codecs libdvdcss !  it said it recommends it
[05:16] <dabaR> bob832: ~ is more for path specification replacement.
[05:16] <dabaR> lightbright: do you want to is a better question...
[05:16] <dooglus> lightbright: if you don't, you'll be limited in the typed of stuff you can play
[05:17] <bob832> dabaR: oh
[05:17] <dabaR> dooglus: I wanna play a guitar.
[05:17] <lightbright> dooglus: ok anything else I need also?
[05:17] <lightbright> dabaR: not sure if I need them
[05:17] <dooglus> lightbright: I don't think so
[05:17] <paxmaster> Is there a gui for LDAP Server
[05:18] <lightbright> oki doki
[05:18] <dabaR> lightbright: need for what? w32codecs is for wmv and wma files, and libdvdcss is for dvd encription, and needs to be gotten from an unofficial repo.
[05:18] <BlueEagle> paxmaster: webmin might help you.
[05:18] <dooglus> bob832: just "cd" will take you home.  and "cd ~fred" will take you to fred's home
[05:18] <ShizKnight> how u install crap on ubuntu
[05:18] <dabaR> dooglus: nice
[05:18] <dooglus> ShizKnight: "sudo apt-get install crap"
[05:18] <NoUse> paxmaster you can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com I've heard of luma too
[05:18] <dabaR> dooglus: lol
[05:18] <drcode> hi all
[05:18] <tim__> hi all
[05:18] <khermans> Anyone have suggestions for setting up a small lab with some old 233 machines for school?  They want all their data to be availabale from any machine they sit down on in the lab, but i dont hink I want the hassel of managing a whole LDAP config
[05:18] <bimberi> ShizKnight: or, sudo aptitude install crap
[05:18] <lightbright> dabaR: ah ok, i wanted to play DVD and mpeg and vob files
[05:18] <paxmaster> thx i will try that
[05:18] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: did you ask ubotu yet?
[05:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> how are the default gnome settings defined on a new user, since there's nothing in /etc/skel telling gnome to have that atrocious ubuntu brown theme?
[05:19] <bob832> so would it be safe to say the ~ is a quick way to get to someone's home folder - other than cd /home/fred?
[05:19] <dabaR> lightbright: have you installed mpeg support? you need to read restricted from ubotu.
[05:19] <khermans> Anyone tried Edubuntu?
[05:19] <drcode> what recommand mail server ?
[05:19] <lightbright> bimberi: is it better to use apt-get install or aptitude install ?
[05:19] <lightbright> dabaR: ok
[05:19] <grace_> hey there can any one help to get w32codec installed.
[05:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> !libdvdcss
[05:19] <ubotu> I don't know, BROKEN_LADDER
[05:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> he doesn't know
[05:19] <dabaR> drcode: what recommand mail server?
[05:19] <drcode> yes
[05:19] <khermans> lightbright, aptitude
[05:19] <grace_> im on AM64 edubuntu and added the repositories but
[05:19] <dabaR> ubotu: tell grace_ about w32codecs
[05:19] <lightbright> tritium: why you recommend aptitude over apt-get?
[05:19] <nicholas_paul> paxmaster, try this - http://www.linuxlinks.com/Web/Networking/LDAP/index.shtml
[05:20] <BlueEagle> drcode: I recomend you no NOT run a mail server unless you really, really, really need to.
[05:20] <lightbright> khermans: any reason?
[05:20] <tim__> what's a good app to convert ogg to mp3?
[05:20] <bimberi> lightbright: looks like i'd better say aptitude :P
[05:20] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, did you get my pm?
[05:20] <BlueEagle> s/ no / do /
[05:20] <dabaR> lightbright: it has more features.
[05:20] <lightbright> bimberi: hehe ;)
[05:20] <dooglus> bob832: ~ is expanded by the bash shell.  try "echo ~" and "echo ~root" in the terminal.  the "cd" command doesn't know what ~ means, as you can see if you "cd '~'"
[05:20] <tritium> lightbright, is has some nice features that can help prevent orphaned packages, for one thing
[05:20] <lightbright> dabaR: ok ill use aptitude from now on :)
[05:20] <grace_> apt-get and aptitude both claim it is unfound when I try to search for it or directly install it
[05:20] <khermans> lightbright, i think it is much nicer
[05:20] <drcode> k
[05:20] <lightbright> tritium: l use aptitude from now on :)
[05:20] <lightbright> khermans: ok
[05:20] <dooglus> bob832: the single quotes tell bash not to replace ~ with /home/bob832, so cd sees the ~
[05:20] <tritium> lightbright, rock on!  (if you prefer gui, there's always synaptic)
[05:20] <shadeofgrey> nicholas_paul:  nope.  wht chat programm are you using anyway?
[05:20] <pegasus> i have both mplayer and xone installed and i can get either to play .wmv  what am i missing
[05:21] <drcode> i wanted some easy mail server smaill IMAP/SMTP
[05:21] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, xchat.
[05:21] <drcode> and web
[05:21] <dooglus> bob832: you can make a directory called '~' if you like:  "cd '~'" - but it's a bit silly to do so
[05:21] <shadeofgrey> nicholas_paul:  if its anything OTHER than xchat, then apt-get install xchat and come back
[05:21] <drcode> web mail
[05:21] <khermans> pegasus, dude try installing vc
[05:21] <khermans> vlc
[05:21] <nicholas_paul> oops, ok shadeofgrey
[05:21] <tritium> nicholas_paul, xchat is installed by default
[05:21] <grace_> i tried getting it from seveas repository but i think it is not listed for the amd64 kernel so it is not finding it
[05:21] <bimberi> lightbright: when you install "crap", sometimes other packages come in with it.  Aptitude is better at remembering what those packages were so that it can uninstall them if you ever uninstall "crap"
[05:21] <pupil> I can't get flash to work properly,. at this site http://www.bmw.ca
[05:21] <pegasus> khermans i just did that you evil hacker
[05:21] <bob832> dooglus:  ok
[05:22] <bimberi> lightbright: and i only use "crap" because it was topical :)
[05:22] <dabaR> lightbright: synaptic or aptitude will tell you whether a package is installed, cause they are user front ends to apt-*
[05:22] <khermans> pegasus, if you want to use wmv -- try w32codecs
[05:22] <pupil> http://bmw.ca
[05:22] <tim__> is there an app to rip music from cd into mp3 format?
[05:22] <nicholas_paul> tritium yea yea i got Xchat...
[05:22] <khermans> pegasus, i resent that statement!  i have never "hacked" into any box that wasnt mine
[05:22] <dabaR> pupil: have you installed flash?
[05:22] <grace_> khermans, do you know where I can get w32codecs for amd64
[05:22] <tritium> nicholas_paul, ok
[05:22] <pupil> dabaR, I thought I did
[05:22] <dabaR> pupil: what package?
[05:23] <pupil> dabaR, from macromedia's site
[05:23] <crimson> hello, can you help me?    http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/432744
[05:23] <calderstrake> tks for the help so far, things are working smoothly now :)
[05:23] <khermans> grace_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76882.html
[05:23] <pupil> dabaR, package was from macromedia
[05:23] <NoUse> !tell pupil about flash
[05:24] <bob832> well, i'm off for the night, cya all in the morning
[05:24] <khermans> later bob
[05:24] <nicholas_paul> l8r
[05:24] <tritium> good night, bob832
[05:24] <threeseas> hello
[05:24] <lightbright> khermans: how do you install w32codecs?
[05:24] <misfit_toy>  hello threeseas
[05:24] <lightbright> bimberi:  heeheok ;)
[05:24] <lightbright> dabaR: got it, thanks
[05:25] <shadeofgrey> okay somebody needs to help me as soon as i get back from securing a frosty beverage
[05:25] <tritium> !w32codecs
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:25] <misfit_toy> shadeofgrey, depends on the alcohol content ;p
[05:25] <threeseas> well after removing powernowd from my system I still get lockups and monitor not comming back up after long periods of inactivitry
[05:25] <dabaR> pupil: nono, you install a package. you can either read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or install flashplayer-mozilla or flashplugin-nonfree. Flash is a ad web technology just to let you know, and most even firewalls for windows know this.
[05:25] <shadeofgrey> i vcant get the ftp.nerrim.net line in my sources.list file to work right...  damnit
[05:25] <khermans> lightbright, i used the marillat repositiroes
[05:25] <pegasus> khermans what about that apache hack
[05:25] <khermans> pegasus, my 0-day!?!
[05:25] <shadeofgrey> and alli want to do is friggin watch the news in a Firefox window
[05:26] <calderstrake> ok.. after i run the dpkg on the Sun Java... do i do anything else or is it fully installed now?
[05:26] <shadeofgrey> thats not asking toomuch
[05:26] <dabaR> khermans: we recommend w32codecs from ubotu for some reason, and he will tell you about it.
[05:26] <tim__> why when I try to install Nvidia driver it does not work? keep having to copy backup file into xconfig???
[05:26] <Terminus> calderstrake, type about:plugins in firefox if you want to check.
[05:26] <jayr> hello... I need some help figure out whats up with blender on my freshly installed ubuntu.
[05:26] <tritium> tim__, are you installing the ubuntu nvidia packages?
[05:26] <tritium> !tell tim__ about nvidia
[05:27] <lightbright> does rootkithunter work ok under breeze?
[05:27] <calderstrake> ok thanks.. and how do i make my text red to you? is that a whisper or something?
[05:27] <tim__> yes... from the ubuntu package
[05:27] <pegasus> khermans yaha i think i am going to take that new chick from ligisticks and maby if i play my cards right I will be showing her my o face O O O
[05:27] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, you just put someones name in the type. like this :)
[05:27] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, this shoudl be red too, but only to you .
[05:27] <lightbright> tim__: you talking to me?
[05:27] <tritium> pegasus, that's a bit offtopic, eh?
[05:27] <calderstrake> nicholas_paul, ok test
[05:28] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, roger:)
[05:28] <lightbright> tritium: does rootkithunter work ok under breeze?
[05:28] <tritium> lightbright, sorry, no idea about that
[05:28] <khermans> pegasus, not really -- i just found out that the nainnnajjar guys has used Ubuntu
[05:28] <crimson> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/432744
[05:28] <Terminus> calderstrake, just type the name of the person you're referring to and if their client supports highlighting, it will.
[05:28] <calderstrake> nicholas_paul, this is a really nice way to stay focused on the chat, tks for all the help again
[05:28] <nicholas_paul> any time calderstrake
[05:28] <nicholas_paul> also, if you want to type someones name calderstrake , just type the first couple of letters and hit tab.
[05:28] <Terminus> oh... question was answered already. hehe
[05:29] <lightbright> tritium: http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[05:29] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, like 'n' 'i' 'c' TAB
[05:29] <lightbright> tritium: and how do I install clamscan please?
[05:29] <N6REJ> tritium: nope, no luck.  It won't let me :(
[05:29] <khermans> a good rootkit wont be detectale during runtime ;-P
[05:29] <pupil> dabaR, do I need to enable backports for the plugin?
[05:30] <pupil> dabaR, cause apt-get can't find it
[05:30] <tritium> lightbright, that's not in the repositories, so you'll have to install from source, or whatever
[05:30] <khermans> you might want to try a livecd that checks the differences between a known good kernel loaded and a possibly tainted kerne;
[05:30] <z3r0x> I tried to patch my kernel with --dry-run but there was a message -> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] ....what should I do?
[05:30] <blanky> where can I find apache config files httpd.conf or apache2.conf
[05:30] <tritium> sorry to hear that, N6REJ
[05:30] <khermans> z3r0x, i think if you day yes -- it will UNDO the old patch
[05:31] <jayr> in ubuntu, how do i figure out how much memory my video card has?
[05:31] <lightbright> tritium: yeah installing rootkithunter now!  seems like a great program
[05:31] <Aurora> in breezy's locked screen mode, on the window that asks for your password theres an icon of a guy, is there any way to change that graphic? i would have expected it to use my account icon or photo
[05:31] <nicholas_paul> blanky,  prob. in /etc/apache2
[05:31] <N6REJ> tritium: me 2.  does this mean the only way to fix this is going to be to wipe the drive and start over?
[05:31] <lightbright> tritium: is there any AV programs for Breeze?
[05:31] <khermans> blanky, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[05:31] <tritium> lightbright, there's a package called chkrootkit in ubuntu
[05:31] <bimberi> lightbright: there's also chkrootkit
[05:31] <blanky> thanks ! :)
[05:31] <tritium> lightbright, AV?  audio/video?
[05:31] <nicholas_paul> blanky i was right :) hehe
[05:31] <bimberi> tritium beat me to it :)
[05:32] <Ophiocus> !
[05:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Ophiocus
[05:32] <khermans> Aurora, what you dont like the black guy?
[05:32] <z3r0x> khermans, hm... I'll backup the old file....how can I rebuild the kernel?
[05:32] <tritium> N6REJ, no, you can use fdisk, right?
[05:32] <khermans> Aurora, he reminds me of Chef
[05:32] <Aurora> he's black?
[05:32] <Ophiocus> my /.dmrc file is giving me a problem if i set a new user will that stop? also i used to be hable to view the windows computers in my lan but now i cant
[05:32] <tritium> bimberi, :)
[05:32] <N6REJ> Ophiocus: can you help me get my partitions reset?
[05:32] <bimberi> lightbright: there's clamav
[05:32] <N6REJ> tritium: yeah I can if I do it from live cd.
[05:32] <Aurora> ooh... so he is
[05:32] <Aurora> i didn't notice
[05:32] <omnid> What's this mean? "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[05:32] <Aurora> yeah i dun like
[05:33] <tritium> N6REJ, you should be able to
[05:33] <blanky> okay, #apache isnt helping, when I go to http://localhost it detects my files in www folder, but when I go to http://<IP_ADDRESS> (my ip) it doesnt work :( anyone can help?
[05:33] <N6REJ> tritium: ok, but it tells me its going to lose all data :S
[05:33] <Aurora> khermans, its an african distro...
[05:33] <bimberi> lightbright: take note of how tritium didn't immediately think of AntiVirus for AV.  This is linux! :)
[05:33] <khermans> lol
[05:33] <tritium> N6REJ, what tells you this?
[05:33] <mindless_> hey any of you guys ever tried to share a internet connection, between 2 ubuntu computers? ( with out a router ie: cross over cable )
[05:33] <lightbright> bimberi: yeah :)
[05:33] <paxmaster> nicholas_paul: thx for the link you give me
[05:33] <N6REJ> tritium: qtparted
[05:33] <tritium> N6REJ, use fdisk
[05:34] <nicholas_paul> paxmaster, did you find something in there?
[05:34] <N6REJ> tritium: k, brb
[05:34] <tritium> lightbright, oh, antivirus?  heh...
[05:34] <lightbright> hey everyone may I recommend a great program!  it works well on breeze I just installed it
[05:34] <lightbright> http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  how are you getting to the internet then?
[05:34] <haste> hey, ive got a wireless card, and i try installing the drivers for it, but it says the hardware isnt present.
[05:34] <tritium> bimberi, good catch
[05:34] <lightbright> tritium: yeah
[05:34] <bimberi> tritium: ;)
[05:34] <Aurora> breezy is so nice :)
[05:34] <lightbright> tritium: you recommend clam?
[05:34] <khermans> blanky, are you blocking that port?
[05:34] <Aurora> hibernation actually works for me! :)
[05:34] <paxmaster> i am still looking at it, it seem interesting
[05:34] <Ophiocus> mindless_, one of your 2 comps got to have either 2 lan cards or an internal/usb modem
[05:34] <nicholas_paul> haste - wow.. thats a pretty broad question.
[05:34] <khermans> blanky, or does your router NAT ?
[05:34] <tritium> lightbright, I have never used AV (no need)
[05:34] <nicholas_paul> haste, have you found a wiki on it?
[05:34] <cafuego> mindless_: ep. And via firewire too
[05:35] <mindless_> dr_willis, the primary computer is connected too a DSL modem, then the secondary is connected to the primary via Cross over cable....
[05:35] <haste> nicholas_paul, actually, i just rebooted and its finally coming up in lspci... brb
[05:35] <jayr> is it even possible to get help here?
[05:35] <nicholas_paul> haste woohoo! :)
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  so you got 2 network cards in PC #1.. one of which is attacthec to the DSL. Other is to the pc #2
[05:35] <haste> ;P
[05:35] <mindless_> the network hardware is fine, ive had it set up before on diffrent os's
[05:35] <lightbright> tritium: but isnt it good to check emails for virus in case I send one to a friend?
[05:35] <haste> yay!
[05:35] <nicholas_paul> jayr, yes it is. It depends what you want :) and if anyone can help.
[05:35] <jayr> ahh. thaks nicholas_paul
[05:35] <tritium> lightbright, if you want to, sure :)
[05:35] <mindless_> yea 2 network cards in the primary, 1 for internet the 2nd one to go to the secondary computer.
[05:36] <Aurora> lightbright, get used to it, its not going to happen
[05:36] <blanky> khermans: nope, I dont have any firewall running that I know of
[05:36] <lightbright> tritium: so there is not even 1 virus that can affect you on Ubuntu?
[05:36] <blanky> and my internet is obviously working cuase I'm here
[05:36] <khermans> blanky, router?
[05:36] <jayr> I just need to figure out how to run blender on ubuntu
[05:36] <lightbright> Aurora: never?
[05:36] <Aurora> theres probably hundreds of viruses
[05:36] <blanky> yeah I have a router
[05:36] <jayr> need/like to
[05:36] <cafuego> jayr: Install it and run it.
[05:36] <jayr> heh :D
[05:36] <Aurora> but the chances are so tiny that its insane to bother actually worrying about it
[05:36] <khermans> blanky, you need to forward port 80 on the router to your LAN IP
[05:36] <lightbright> Aurora: 100's? and you say we dont need a AV?  how come?
[05:36] <blanky> that's messed up, I cant believe apache ran easier on my windows than here >=O
[05:36] <jayr> did that portion of it
[05:36] <blanky> OH YEAH!
[05:36] <cafuego> jayr: (it will be in the Apps menu after install)
[05:36] <blanky> I REMEMBER
[05:36] <blanky> IM SO DUMB, THANKS KHERMANS!
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  so whats the problem? :P
[05:36] <lightbright> Aurora: ok
[05:36] <Ophiocus> mindless_, may i recomend you read this http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm
[05:36] <blanky> *big blanky hug to khermans*
[05:36] <jayr> get segmentation fault
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> wow i feel the love.
[05:37] <tritium> lightbright, nothing is perfect, of course, but linux has not had a virus problem
[05:37] <khermans> lol
[05:37] <jayr> tried  to compile
[05:37] <jayr> no luk
[05:37] <cafuego> jayr: Install it and and let us never speak of this again.
[05:37] <cafuego> s/Install/uninstall/
[05:37] <jayr> lol
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> well.. thanks lightbright  :!
[05:37] <mindless_> Willis, Well, i cant figure out how to share the internet from comp 1,
[05:37] <lightbright> tritium: excellent!  and spyware?  no spyware either?
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> hehe
[05:37] <Aurora> lightbright, think about it, to get a virus from an email in windows you do this: double click the attachment
[05:37] <mindless_> ophiocus, cool, ill read it, brb if i fail :D
[05:37] <jayr> I would really like that
[05:37] <Aurora> no spyware at all to my knowledge
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  'ip masquerading' or set up a proxy.
[05:37] <khermans> blanky, work?
[05:37] <lightbright> tritium: did you like the rootkithunter I sent you?
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> plus, someone would have to write a linux virus.
[05:37] <tritium> lightbright, we had someone claiming he had java spyware on his ubuntu install the other day...
[05:38] <lightbright> Aurora: did you see the rootkithunter?
[05:38] <lightbright> tritium: didnt mean that he actually did, right? :)
[05:38] <blanky> er...I dont think :(
[05:38] <jayr> I would love to not have to trouble shoot but with errors like this libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
[05:38] <tritium> lightbright, I don't know...
[05:38] <lightbright> Aurora: http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[05:38] <blanky> I mean, I dont know how to forward it I forgot, I'm working on it
[05:38] <blanky> D-Link router
[05:38] <jayr> I do wonder if I just need to switch back to windows
[05:38] <lightbright> tritium: did you like the rootkithunter I sent you?
[05:38] <blanky> Virtual Server HTTP	<IP_ADDRESS>	TCP 80/80	always
[05:39] <blanky> apparently it's allowed
[05:39] <Aurora> but in linux to get a virus from an email you would need to save the file in to your home folder, open nautillus, right click, click properties, enter the permissions tab, enable the "executable" bit, okay out of it, and then open a terminal, login to root, navigate to your home folder, and execute the virus
[05:39] <tritium> lightbright, I just barely checked out the page
[05:39] <lightbright> Aurora: heheh ;)
[05:39] <cafuego> woo! /me pingfloods <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:39] <Aurora> it would be pretty hard to not be doing all that intentionally!
[05:39] <[linner] > Aurora, now that's what i call security!
[05:39] <lightbright> tritium: it works well on breeze
[05:39] <khermans> blanky, log in, and you could also take the easy way out and set your local LAN host to be DMZ
[05:39] <dabaR> Aurora: nice, in theory, there are other ways to hack a system...
[05:39] <Ophiocus> Most times it are selfhiding toolkits <= sorry but i couldnt trust code from someone that writes like that
[05:39] <tritium> lightbright, okay...
[05:39] <haste> now to see if MarioKartDS works with linux wifi! ^_^
[05:39] <lightbright> tritium: there are apparently many rootkithunters on Linux
[05:40] <blanky> KHERMAN IT WORKS I WUB YOU!
[05:40] <cafuego> Aurora: You'd have to install wine as well, unless someone actually got around to writing a decent linux virus ;-)
[05:40] <blanky> *blanky hug again*
[05:40] <tritium> I guess...I've not used any, lightbright
[05:40] <ithiel_sleepiez> dabaR, I never said that
[05:40] <lightbright> Aurora: and it was a good point too ;)
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> can anyone tell me some important files i should have to be able to compile apps?
[05:40] <jayr> I even tried to find a fresh copy of libGL
[05:40] <ithiel_sleepiez> ubotu quotes
[05:40] <ubotu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes
[05:40] <nicholas_paul> !compile
[05:40] <ubotu> I heard compile is tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall.  Ask me about <compiling>
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> that apparently didn't come in this LINUX DISTRIBUTION by default?
[05:40] <Siph0n> BROKEN_LADDER: Ubuntu
[05:40] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> bimberi ah!  thanks.
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> aptitude?
[05:40] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, not by default, no
[05:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium that was my point.
[05:41] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: It's "Linux for Human Beings" :P
[05:41] <blanky> hey how can I set up a Domain Name with my IP, what nameservers do I put, oh wait, I first need a DNSD right?
[05:41] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, it's not needed by the average user
[05:41] <lightbright> the support for Ubuntu is oustanding if I may say :)
[05:41] <blanky> what package do I need for a domain name server
[05:41] <cafuego> ubotu: compile is s#tar -zxvf#Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf#
[05:41] <ubotu> ...but compile is already something else...
[05:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium ??  uhhhh
[05:41] <cafuego> ubotu: compile =~ s#tar -zxvf#Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf#
[05:41] <ubotu> cafuego: OK
[05:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium there are TONS of programs that need it.
[05:41] <cafuego> blah :-)
[05:41] <khermans> misfit_toy, makestickers.com
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> misfit_toy surely they exist.  you could make your own custom one onine
[05:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, no, the average user (not developer) doesn't compile stuff
[05:42] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, i think they do! Dont they? on cafepress.com
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium nonsense.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ive  think ive yet to compile anything on ubuntu yet... :P
[05:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, no, usage statistics
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium consider the OTR plugin for gaim.  consider the most recent versions of vorbis encoder.
[05:42] <lightbright> i vote tritium & bimberi & khermans for OPS :) because they are all very helpful and patient :)
[05:42] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, actually i think theres a link on ubuntu.com
[05:42] <Terminus> blanky, bind. you can always use the dns servers of your registrar though.
[05:42] <lightbright> and Aurora too :)
[05:42] <khermans> :-)
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> hi folks
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium nonsense.  there are tons of programs that you'd have to compile because there aren't packages, or at least not recent ones, for them.
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> I am facing a problem
[05:42] <tritium> heh, thanks lightbright :)
[05:42] <blanky> what can I use to view WMV files in firefox, cause it isn't working with whatever is playing them right now :(
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> can anyone one help me
[05:43] <bimberi> thanks lightbright :)
[05:43] <linuxgeek2> sorry wrong channel
[05:43] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, nonsense
[05:43] <misfit_toy> nicholas_paul, must be a new one then, thanks, I'll take a look as soon as this encoding is finished, my cpu is at 99%
[05:43] <lightbright> and dabaR too :)
[05:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium the point is, it's a linux distribution, and a few mb of files on any modern machine (that surely has several free gb) is ridiculous.
[05:43] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, you're not describing things the average user needs to do
[05:43] <lightbright> nearly forgot dabaR
[05:43] <bimberi> tritium: you gave it away, i was going to say "one of us is, you have to guess which"
[05:43] <jedrick> need help when trying to install skype, got this output : "The following packages have unmet dependencies: skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." anyone please
[05:43] <nicholas_paul> np misfit_toy
[05:43] <lightbright> :)
[05:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium the average user does too need those things!
[05:43] <tritium> bimberi, sorry :)
[05:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium the average user uses instant messaging.  the average user encodes music.
[05:43] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, v
[05:43] <bimberi> tritium: :)
[05:44] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, nope.  Now let's please not discuss this any more
[05:44] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/
[05:44] <misfit_toy> nicholas_paul, got it thx
[05:44] <nicholas_paul> :) cool
[05:44] <haste> is there a way to make a wifi card act as a router?
[05:44] <nicholas_paul> haste you need to 'share the connection'
[05:44] <blanky> what can I use to watch WMV movies embedded in HTML files (on a site)
[05:45] <N6REJ> tritium: nope, no go... won't let me make a new parition.  Apparently even though the size of the 1st parition is shrunk its somehow reserved?
[05:45] <bmrtin> mplayer firefox plugin
[05:45] <blanky> bmrtin: thanks!
[05:45] <tritium> N6REJ, no, that shouldn't be.  You're using fdisk?
[05:45] <N6REJ> tritium: either that or I have no idea what the heck I'm doing and thats a possiblity.
[05:45] <bimberi> jedrick: there are skype packages for breezy available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ...
[05:45] <khermans> haste, iwconfig eth1 mode master
[05:45] <N6REJ> tritium: I thought so...  i"m rebooting now into live cd... will try fdisk from console
[05:45] <tritium> N6REJ, good plan
[05:46] <omnid> okat what do I do to this RPM file
[05:46] <nicholas_paul> haste search for a wiki on sharing a connection. Theres a post on the forum too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76346
[05:46] <haste> khermans, my network card is eth0 and my wifi is wlan0 ...
[05:46] <bimberi> s/skype packages for breezy/breezy packages for skype/
[05:46] <haste> cool  thanks
[05:46] <jedrick> bimberi: ok i'll check it out
[05:46] <N6REJ> tritium: I'm gonna cry if I have to do a reinstall, this is on the server, and I've got everyting 99% correct!
[05:46] <khermans> haste, if your using a broadcom -- it may not be supported
[05:46] <nicholas_paul> np haste
[05:46] <haste> it aint broadcom
[05:47] <tritium> N6REJ, don't worry...I can't imagine you'll need to
[05:47] <blanky> if I have amd +2500, must I get mplayer-k6 or can I get i386
[05:47] <[linner] > with tritium's help of course (grin)
[05:47] <rowan> Groan, Having trouble watching DVDs, for some reason everything is jerky. I've followed the steps for enabling DMA on the Wiki, but its still no good.
[05:47] <tritium> :)
[05:48] <threeseas> Hmmm reading ubuntuforums.org I find to my lockup threads
[05:48] <threeseas> to many
[05:48] <khermans> Our LUG protested Steve Ballmer at a local Microsoft event at school --> v
[05:48] <khermans> http://www.dailycollegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c3d7011b9e?in_archive=1
[05:48] <tritium> lightbright, friendly new users like you make spending time on IRC worthwhile
[05:48] <khermans> video --> http://www.umasslug.org/lugfiles/umass_ballmer_2005.avi
[05:48] <dabaR> haste: so do you know how to share the connection?
[05:49] <tritium> (and there are _many_ friendly users in ubuntu, which is why I love this community)
[05:49] <misfit_toy> khermans, just sneak up behind Ballmer and whisper "google", he shits his pants every time.
[05:49] <khermans> misfit_toy, i wanted to ask him for a donation to our lug
[05:49] <[linner] > khermans, please talk about this stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:49] <[linner] > tritium, yes there are!!!
[05:49] <khermans> [linner] , in the video we hand out Ubuntu cds
[05:49] <rob1> hmm has anyone else had problems burning dvds?
[05:49] <jedrick> bimberi: man i don't know how to do it
[05:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> does it make sense to use checkinstall when compiling from source?
[05:49] <dabaR> khermans: the topic explains it well...
[05:49] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, definitely
[05:50] <nicholas_paul> rob1 k3b works great
[05:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium cool.
[05:50] <bimberi> jedrick: ok, what's the problem
[05:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i didn't know whether there might be something better
[05:50] <[linner] > khermans, that's great... but this channel is primarily for those who need help :)
[05:50] <lightbright> tritium: I created a script but it says i dont have permuission to run it, even when loged in using sudo -i. any ideas?
[05:50] <rob1> nicholas_paul, gnomebaker went thru the motions but did noting
[05:50] <Ophiocus> misfit_toy, smile you just got quoted
[05:50] <khermans> [linner] , hey i heped a lot!
[05:50] <rob1> s/noting/nothing
[05:50] <jedrick> when trying to install skype got the error "The following packages have unmet dependencies: skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."
[05:50] <dabaR> khermans: umass, like the big umass?
[05:50] <nicholas_paul> rob1 k3b is way better :)
[05:50] <jedrick> what's that mean?
[05:50] <khermans> dabaR, yea
[05:50] <tito> lightbright: su to root then run it
[05:51] <[linner] > khermans, that's wonderful! :)  ......and........
[05:51] <tritium> no, tito
[05:51] <dabaR> khermans: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:51] <bimberi> jedrick: did you download the package from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl?
[05:51] <ecobuntu> optiplex?
[05:51] <lightbright> tito: i changed the permissions of file to 777 and it works now
[05:51] <tritium> lightbright, check that the script is +x
[05:51] <jedrick> no
[05:51] <jedrick> i don't know how
[05:51] <tito> kool
[05:52] <dabaR> khermans: wanna talk about it, or should I just read the article?
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i set my system to i686 instead of 386?
[05:52] <fletch33> hello all could someone possible tell me what would make gedit not allow me to edit my sources.list? thanks
[05:52] <Ophiocus> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?minid=24
[05:52] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, sudo aptitude install linux-686
[05:52] <nicholas_paul> fletch33,  use 'sudo' first
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> for checkinstall/compile purposes
[05:52] <blanky> people at #debian are so mean :'(
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium Linux brokenladder 2.6.12-9-686-smp #1 SMP Mon Oct 10 13:36:57 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:52] <fletch33> nicholas_paul, explain
[05:52] <mfinch> I am thinking about compiling a new kernel.  Does anyone recommend a specific web site for this?  I have seen pages in vanilla install and Debian specific.  Here is one of them: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/blogger/2005/09/compiling-linux-kernel-26.html
[05:52] <dabaR> blanky: no, just straight forward.
[05:52] <misfit_toy> blanky, I hear that a lot, never been there
[05:52] <nicholas_paul> fletch33, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:52] <lightbright> whgen I use aptitude, it says: .aptitude/config - Unable to open %s for writing (13 Permission denied)
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> mfinch i'm curious why you're wanting to compile your own?
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> mfinch i'm curious why you're wanting to compile your own.
[05:53] <tritium> mfinch, use kernel-package (the make-kpkg command)
[05:53] <khermans> dabaR, the article is good -- video is cool too -- but i dont want to get into trouble here from linner!
[05:53] <dabaR> mfinch: ya install the 2.6 kernel on your breezy...:-/
[05:53] <fletch33> nicholas_paul,  thank you very much
[05:53] <bimberi> jedrick: from that webpage, click on See Contents next to "all", scroll down to Skype and download skype deb file
[05:53] <dabaR> khermans: so join that channel.
[05:53] <nicholas_paul> anytime fletch33
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i have the right kernel.  but checkinstall fails to install anything under except for as i386
[05:53] <runelind> I mounted a network share in gnome
[05:53] <N6REJ> tritium: I don't seem to be able to access /dev/hda from terminal :(
[05:53] <runelind> and I tried double clicking on a video file
[05:53] <runelind> and it said unable to play the video file
[05:53] <[linner] > dabaR, thank you
[05:53] <jedrick> bimberi: ok i'll look for it
[05:53] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, what are you compiling?
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> runelind speaking of which, i'd _kill_ to know how to change file associations in gnome.
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium libotr
[05:54] <mfinch> I see the lines above "sudo aptitude install linux-686".  What version of kernel is installed by default (a 386 I think)?
[05:54] <tritium> N6REJ, from the LiveCD?
[05:54] <bimberi> jedrick: ... save it to disk, then "dpkg -i" it
[05:54] <N6REJ> tritium: yep
[05:54] <runelind> it says I might need to install the corresponding plugins
[05:54] <crimsun> mfinch: 386
[05:54] <tritium> mfinch, 386
[05:54] <blanky> Okay, I was just asking if debian came with more server packages out of the box than ubuntu, and they started getting all pissed at me for comparing them both and they started saying how debian has a larger repository and that I should ask ubuntu questions elsewhere, etc.
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium if i set it as follows, 7 -  Architecture: [ i586 ] , then it fails.
[05:54] <runelind> if I mount the network drive via cli, it works just fine
[05:54] <tritium> N6REJ, you're using sudo?
[05:54] <N6REJ> blanky: debian group is nasty
[05:54] <ecobuntu> blanky: folks at #debian are a little bitter
[05:54] <lightbright> I wrote a sxript to run aptitude update followed by aptitude upgrade. is that good to run daily?
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> ecobuntu lol
[05:54] <ecobuntu> debian is a great distro though
[05:54] <runelind> so what's the missing step?
[05:54] <blanky> yeah :'(, that's why I love ubuntu, everyone shares the luv!
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> ubuntu made debian hip.
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> but ugly (brown)
[05:55] <N6REJ> tritium: uh.. well, I would think so, it never asked.  let me see if I can ctrl-f2
[05:55] <ecobuntu> i think debian was hip before ubuntu
[05:55] <mfinch> Could someone tell me what "sudo aptitude install linux-686" will do?  I am assuming this will install an i686 kernel?
[05:55] <runelind> BROKEN_LADDER: that's asimple theme change away
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> ecobuntu it was practical and conservative.
[05:55] <tritium> mfinch, that's right
[05:55] <phucker> Im getting this error when i sudo modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:55] <phucker> ; does anyone know what im doing wrong?
[05:55] <ecobuntu> debian is rad because it's completely controlled by developers
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> runelind yeah.  but i'd love to find a way to change the defaults.  no one seems to know how.
[05:55] <ecobuntu> there is no company in control of it
[05:55] <jedrick> bimberi: do you use skype?
[05:55] <Mr_Milenko> Does ubuntu have "drivers" for the FatX filesystem?
[05:55] <blanky> er, I wasnt comparing them...
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> runelind except to put stuff in /etc/skel
[05:55] <wastrel> is it possible to pull images out of PDF files?
[05:56] <N6REJ> tritium: no sudo needed... it puts you right in as "ubuntu@ubuntu"
[05:56] <bimberi> jedrick: no, not yet, otherwise i'd offer to test :)
[05:56] <nicholas_paul> wastrel if you open them in gimp yes
[05:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone here have a sip phone?
[05:56] <mfinch> will I need to modify grub after the kernel is installed?  Will it be my default?
[05:56] <tritium> N6REJ, you should be able to use fdisk then
[05:56] <runelind> I'd love to be able to play video files that are on a network drive without mounting from the CLI :)
[05:56] <ecobuntu> blanky: i know...and the guys at #debian are dicks anyways...don't let them speak for the debian community (which ubuntu users are a part of)
[05:56] <econobuntu> hey ecobuntu, can I be your bro?
[05:56] <tritium> mfinch, it'll do it for you automatically
[05:56] <N6REJ> tritium: yeah, I can execute fdisk but there is no /dev/hda !
[05:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium you have any idea how to change checkinstall to use 686
[05:56] <ecobuntu> sure
[05:56] <misfit_toy> wastrel, evince may do that, not sure at the moment
[05:56] <tritium> ecobuntu, let's not call anybody names please
[05:56] <ecobuntu> ok
[05:56] <econobuntu> ;)
[05:56] <TMG> .
[05:56] <tritium> cool
[05:56] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER K i installed aix soft phone today
[05:56] <jedrick> bimberi: is it true that it's for free?, and can it call local landline numbers
[05:57] <pegasus> jedrick what is for free
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus so do you have a sip address?
[05:57] <jedrick> pegasus: skype
[05:57] <bimberi> jedrick: yes it is, calls to landlines cost though
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus get an ENUM number for your sip address, and i'll give you a test ringie dingie :)
[05:57] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER i have a did
[05:57] <pornobuntu> er...wrong name
[05:57] <jedrick> dam
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus you mean a PSTN to sip number?
[05:58] <drcode> any one can recommand me light mail server with IMAP/SMTP/WEB MAIL support?
[05:58] <econobuntu> hey guys, who wants ubuntu for free!
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus i'm talking about an ENUM number, for ip-to-ip
[05:58] <econobuntu> <---
[05:58] <ecobuntu> have you guys heard about the new distribution being built on opensolaris based on ubuntu?
[05:58] <ecobuntu> it's pretty sweet
[05:58] <N6REJ> drcode: dovecot
[05:58] <wastrel> nicholas_paul, thx that works 100%
[05:58] <misfit_toy> drcode, dovecot
[05:58] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER i have not set that up yet
[05:58] <runelind> ohohohoh
[05:58] <wastrel> misfit_toy, gimp :]
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> you guys need to go to enum2go.com and/or e164.org and get enum numbers for your sip addresses.
[05:58] <econobuntu> opensolaris? openbsd? openlinux? openwindows?
[05:58] <runelind> this is still messed up
[05:58] <ecobuntu> openwindows?
[05:58] <nicholas_paul> no prob wastrel !!!
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus well, check out enum2go.com and/or e164.org
[05:58] <ecobuntu> openlinux?
[05:58] <drcode> thanx
[05:58] <jedrick> how can i view webcam on gaim-vv is it possible?
[05:58] <drcode> I Will check it
[05:58] <pegasus> no rush
[05:58] <runelind> when mounting my mac home directory through smb I still cant access symlinked folders
[05:59] <mfinch> Thanks for the info.  I think I am going to follow the instructions here: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/breezy/ for updating kernel
[05:59] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you should be able to
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus once you have an enum number, set up sipbroker.com as your proxy server (the secondary server) and then it wil automatically do enum lookups for you, so you can call anyone else with an enum number referring to his sip address.
[05:59] <misfit_toy> jedrick, I think gaim-vv is being put back into the main gaim project, you might want to wait a bit.
[05:59] <tritium> runelind, I believe that's a limitation of SMB
[05:59] <jedrick> ecobuntu: i can't, when i view other's webcam the parrot image appears
[05:59] <TMG> anyone here goos with troublshooting ndiswrapper?
[05:59] <TMG> good*
[05:59] <drcode> dovcot also support web mail?
[05:59] <runelind> tritium: it happens with cifs most of the time too
[05:59] <pupil> In mozilla,. I need to switch the user agent, how do do this?
[05:59] <ecobuntu> jedrick: strange...but misfit_toy is right about gaim
[05:59] <N6REJ> drcode yep.. full imap support
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus bimberi check out the first enum number on my site, and click on it.  http://brokenladder.com/index.php?page=contact
[06:00] <drcode> thnx
[06:00] <N6REJ> drcode yw
[06:00] <pupil> In mozilla,. I need to switch the user agent, how do do this?
[06:00] <jedrick> ecobuntu: is there any other way?
[06:00] <pupil> BROKEN_LADDER, In mozilla,. I need to switch the user agent, how do do this?
[06:00] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i am not familiar with the plugin.  I use gaim and I know you can use that plugin to get video but I'm not sure how...I'm sorry
[06:01] <econobuntu> okay guys, when you go here http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ and you click the snitzhackfinal.wmv, what application plays the file?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> pupil,  i think theres an extension or 2 that make it easy.
[06:01] <ecobuntu> jedrick: have you tried ubuntuforums.org or linuxquestions.org and post your question there?
[06:01] <pupil> Dr_Willis, umm,. you happen to know what its called?
[06:01] <jedrick> ecobuntu: can you view webcam on your gaim?
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> pupil get a user agent switcher plugin from plugins.mozilla.org
[06:01] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i don't have the plugin
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> pupil,  nope.. but theres ooodles of extensions out for little things like that.
[06:01] <ecobuntu> jedrick: and i don't know what you mean by parrot
[06:01] <N6REJ> tritium: HELP@!
[06:01] <runelind> bah, cifs doesn't want to work at all
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> pupil make sure to complain to the bastards who run that site!
[06:02] <ecobuntu> paul martin is going down
[06:02] <tritium> N6REJ, what's going on?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> theres some great extras for firefox that are must haves. :p
[06:02] <ecobuntu> please not the conservatives!
[06:02] <jedrick> ecobuntu: just the image of the parrot instead of getting image to the other webcam
[06:02] <N6REJ> tritium: not a darn thing!  I'm stuck.  don't know what to do now.
[06:02] <jedrick> ecobuntu: and i don't know why they choose parrot :p
[06:02] <tritium> ecobuntu, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:02] <ecobuntu> jedrick: what's the parrot mean?  is that like there avatar?
[06:02] <ecobuntu> ok
[06:02] <TMG> Im getting this error when i sudo modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:02] <ecobuntu> jedrick: maybe you don't have the plugin installed properly?
[06:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know why i'm getting this checkinstall error when trying to use 686? http://brokenladder.com/index.php?page=contact
[06:02] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ye, some kinda like that
[06:02] <Mr_Milenko> Does ubuntu have "drivers" for the FatX filesystem??
[06:02] <econobuntu> if it wasnt for the ubuntu family, I wouldve used another distro
[06:02] <TMG> what is going on?
[06:03] <misfit_toy> jedrick, where did you get the plugin from?
[06:03] <kronicdreamer> i have Nvidia FX 5500 OC, will it work on Ubuntu?
[06:03] <Mr_Milenko> (The xbox filesystem)
[06:03] <jedrick> ecobuntu: maybe, coz i didn't installed any plugins yet. only the gaim-vv
[06:03] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER  INFORMATION OVERLOAD
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> misfit_toy google
[06:03] <ecobuntu> jedrick: gaim-vv is a plugin
[06:03] <jedrick> ecobuntu: but isn't that the -vv is the plugin
[06:03] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ye
[06:03] <misfit_toy> BROKEN_LADDER, I'm trying to help him, not find plugins
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus information overload?
[06:03] <kronicdreamer> i have Nvidia FX 5500 OC, will it work on Ubuntu?
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> misfit_toy oh..oops
[06:03] <ecobuntu> jedrick: did you install it?  it's a tarball right?
[06:04] <jedrick> ecobuntu: i get it using apt
[06:04] <ecobuntu> jedrick: oh really? it's available there?
[06:04] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER e yaha way too many ways to contact you
[06:04] <jedrick> ecobuntu: eys
[06:04] <jedrick> i mean yes
[06:04] <pupil> flash still does not work in my browser
[06:04] <pupil> http://bmw.ca
[06:04] <N6REJ> !tell kronicdreamer about Nvidia
[06:04] <ecobuntu> jedrick: hmm...i don't have it in my repositories
[06:04] <nicholas_paul> pupil i hate to tell you this, but to get flash, i just went to a site that needed it and clicked 'download the plugin' .
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus you can't have too many.
[06:05] <ecobuntu> do you have a special repository?
[06:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus the point is, did you click on the enum number?
[06:05] <jedrick> ecobuntu: search it using apt, i think it's in there
[06:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus do you have a sip phone?
[06:05] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ijust did
[06:05] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i got no hit
[06:05] <N6REJ> Seveas: HELP!
[06:05] <jedrick> ecobuntu: :p i do have, i jsut searched it
[06:05] <tritium> N6REJ, what's going on?
[06:05] <fletch33> if i installed freenx and choose to create a key and then i read that i should have choose not to how can i uninstall it so i can go thru the setup again
[06:06] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER i have a iax phone kiax
[06:06] <N6REJ> tritium: I can't get fdisk to work properly... no access to /dev/hda from live cd :(
[06:06] <ecobuntu> jedrick: weird...am i the only one?  do you have a special repository in your sources.list file?
[06:06] <misfit_toy> fletch33, there's a freenx wizard in the menu as I recall
[06:06] <jedrick> jedrick: nope
[06:06] <fletch33> if i try to re-install it says it is already the newest version
[06:06] <ecobuntu> hmmm
[06:06] <ecobuntu> wierd
[06:06] <jedrick> jedrick: im just new to linux so i didn't change anything
[06:06] <jedrick> ops
[06:06] <econobuntu> hey guys, how do I make mplayer play the wmv files instead of totem
[06:06] <ecobuntu> jedrick: so are you running gaim now?
[06:06] <tritium> N6REJ, what happens when you try?
[06:06] <fletch33> misfit_toy, under apps or what i cant find it
[06:06] <N6REJ> tritium: it doesn't exist!
[06:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell econobuntu about defaultapp
[06:07] <jedrick> ecobuntu: yes
[06:07] <econobuntu> mozilla-mplayer only works for mozilla maybe? cuase it's not working for firefox
[06:07] <misfit_toy> fletch33, internet/NX
[06:07] <ecobuntu> oh man AIM sucks...they added bots to my buddies list
[06:07] <intelikey> N6REJ not scsi is it ?
[06:07] <tritium> N6REJ, that's bizarre
[06:07] <econobuntu> bimberi, I mean in firefox
[06:07] <misfit_toy> fletch33, apps/internet/NX
[06:07] <N6REJ> intelikey: nope.
[06:07] <ecobuntu> jedrick: click tools, then plugin action
[06:08] <ecobuntu> jedrick: is webcam there?
[06:08] <N6REJ> intelikey: WD80G
[06:08] <fletch33> misfit_toy, it is not there
[06:08] <jedrick> ecobuntu: wait i'll check
[06:08] <bimberi> econobuntu: that i don't know sry
[06:08] <econobuntu> :'(
[06:08] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  nooooooooooooo
[06:08] <misfit_toy> fletch33, then I don't know what to tell ya...if Seveas was around he might know.
[06:08] <jedrick> ecobuntu: no plugins
[06:08] <ecobuntu> jedrick: well...it should be
[06:08] <intelikey> N6REJ tried  sudo MAKEDEV ide     ?
[06:08] <fletch33> misfit_toy, can i somehow uninstall it
[06:08] <blanky> what plugin do i need to play wmv files in firefox, mplayer-mozilla isnt working
[06:08] <pavelich> anyone here run an nvidia fx5200 so they can get dual outputs?
[06:09] <N6REJ> intelikey: nope.
[06:09] <jedrick> ecobuntu: how come mines not
[06:09] <fletch33> misfit_toy,  so i can start over
[06:09] <shaji> how to play mp3
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: go tools, then preferences
[06:09] <misfit_toy> fletch33, sudo apt-get remove nx-client (or whatever it's called)
[06:09] <zoexii> hello, question 1... how do I turn off th startup noise on login?
[06:09] <tritium> N6REJ, so what exactly is installed?  You can't boot into your system?
[06:09] <jedrick> ok
[06:09] <joshua__> could someone please tell me what the command for installing kubuntu is?
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: then go down to plugins
[06:09] <zoexii> joshua__, use synaptic,
[06:09] <fletch33> misfit_toy,  thanks for you rhelp
[06:09] <tritium> joshua__, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: see if you can locate that plugin
[06:09] <misfit_toy> fletch33, np
[06:09] <zoexii> joshua__, search for kde and install
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: if you can click the box next to it
[06:09] <lightbright> anyone worked out how to tell mplayer to play the video at half size?
[06:09] <jedrick> k
[06:09] <joshua__> thank you tritium
[06:09] <supo> hi.. i'm having a lil trouble with compiling (anything) it gives qt warnings and doesn't compile anything i wish to compile, i've looked from forums and all over web and noticed many have the same problem.. anyone know how to help this situation?
[06:10] <Octane> anyone here have a yahoo pop3 solution?
[06:10] <ecobuntu> am i the only one who does have gaim-vv in their repositories?
[06:10] <intelikey> N6REJ looked for  ls /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/    ?
[06:10] <supo> oh, and i'm using kubuntu
[06:10] <Turtlewind> Hi - I have a problem using Sudo - it gives me the error "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 18 10:51:39 2005"
[06:10] <lightbright> supo: why not just use aptitude to install?
[06:10] <tritium> Octane, yes, for $
[06:10] <ecobuntu> doesn't
[06:10] <ecobuntu> not does
[06:10] <Octane> cute
[06:10] <misfit_toy> Octane, look at http://freshmeat.net and search for yahoo mail
[06:10] <N6REJ> tritium: ok, here's the deal... When I ORIGINALLY built the system I put everything in one 80G partition.   I've shrunk the partition with parted, np but I can't make new paritions.
[06:10] <supo> aptitude?
[06:10] <blanky> guys my mplayer-mozilla plugin is only working in mozilla, not firefox :(
[06:10] <ecobuntu> N6REJ: use fdisk
[06:11] <Turtlewind> (my system clock was wrong before and I changed it, so I guess that Sudo is refusing to work because the last time it was used is in the future)
[06:11] <supo> i can't install everything with apt-get.. like window decorations and such
[06:11] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  man it's not in there
[06:11] <Turtlewind> is this a known problem, and if so how do I solve it?
[06:11] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: ..... fdisk? we aren't Neolithic peoples
[06:11] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok, let me write it down and go over to the server.
[06:11] <tritium> N6REJ, but can you still boot without a live cd?
[06:11] <ecobuntu> jedrick: run dpkg -L gaim-vv
[06:11] <N6REJ> tritium: yep
[06:11] <ecobuntu> jedrick: at terminal to make sure it's installed
[06:11] <jedrick> ok
[06:11] <tritium> N6REJ, then run fdisk from there, not the live cd
[06:11] <ecobuntu> Razor-X: are you afraid of the terminal ;)
[06:11] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: I use a terminal all the time
[06:12] <N6REJ> tritium: can't it says /dev/hda is mounted!
[06:12] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: but not *fdisk*, cfdisk is fine, but not *fdisk* :P
[06:12] <ecobuntu> Razor-X: fdisk is the bomb
[06:12] <jedrick> ecobuntu: it say's that gaim-vv is not installed.
[06:12] <jesseman_> fdisk > anything microsoft
[06:12] <runelind> grr
[06:12] <ecobuntu> jedrick: apt-get install gaim-vv
[06:12] <jedrick> ok
[06:12] <runelind> so what is the best way to mount my mac home directory from ubuntu?
[06:12] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: i'm actually a terminal lover, of sorts :P
[06:12] <N6REJ> brb.. gonna go try intelikeys suggestion.
[06:13] <intelikey> N6REJ not fdisk /dev/hda1     leave the '1' off
[06:13] <zoexii> hello again, upon login to gnome there is a very long very loud startup noise.  I want to turn it off. is there a way to do this?
[06:13] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok.
[06:13] <shaji> how to install xmms
[06:13] <ecobuntu> jedrick: is it install gaim-vv?
[06:13] <shaji> help me help me
[06:13] <jedrick> ecobuntu: no package, but when i try to search i got this gaim-vv-1.2.0 - Package created with checkinstall 1.5.3
[06:13] <blanky> can someone please help me :'(
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ok...that means you created it...it's needs to be installed with dpkg
[06:14] <N6REJ> intelikey: should I be on livecd or regular boot?
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: or you could use a repository i just found
[06:14] <blanky> I need the mplayer plugin for firecox, the only one I have is for mozilla, but I need it for firefox!
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: add it to your sources.list then apt-get update && apt-get install gaim-vv
[06:14] <jedrick> ecobuntu: what
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: either way
[06:14] <jedrick> ok
[06:14] <choudeshell> Need a bit of help here; I need someone to send me a large file to test the speed of this throttle.
[06:14] <shaji> how to install xmms
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: which way do you want to do it?
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: dpkg or apt-get?
[06:14] <StinkyRyan> shaji, what?
[06:15] <jedrick> ecobuntu: apt, coz it installs automatically
[06:15] <jedrick> :p
[06:15] <shaji> i can't install xmms
[06:15] <mlalkaka> will a .deb package made for debian work on ubuntu?
[06:15] <intelikey> either way N6REJ the command is  'sudo cfdisk /dev/hda '     or plain fdisk if you prefer
[06:15] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ok (dpkg is automatic too).
[06:15] <StinkyRyan> shaji, what are you trying?
[06:15] <shaji> StinkyRyan what can i do
[06:15] <choudesh_clone> Anyone want to send me a file so I can test this mirror?
[06:15] <blanky> someone help me out :'(
[06:15] <ecobuntu> jedrick:  so gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <blanky> I need mplayer plugin for firefox, not mozilla!
[06:15] <ecobuntu> jedrick: then add these two lines
[06:15] <jedrick> ecobuntu: then
[06:15] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok, brb
[06:15] <shaji> StinkyRyan i want playing mp3
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: deb http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian unstable main
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: deb-src http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian unstable main
[06:16] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: done?  then save
[06:16] <shaji> how to install
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: apt-get update
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: apt-get install gaim-vv
[06:16] <zoexii> mlalkaka, it should provided you have all dependencies, use dpkg
[06:16] <StinkyRyan> shaji, http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms
[06:16] <jedrick> ecobuntu: not yet, wait
[06:17] <ecobuntu> jedrick: also you might want to add a line like this #gaim-vv
[06:17] <intelikey> blanky 'apt-cache search mplayer '    will list anything in your selected resources
[06:17] <synackuator> does anyone else have adelphia!!!?!?!?!
[06:17] <ecobuntu> jedrick: that way you'll remember why you added that line
[06:17] <ecobuntu> jedrick: that hash (#) is for a comment
[06:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> where is package architecture specified for programs like checkinstall to use?
[06:17] <mlalkaka> zoexii, thanks.
[06:18] <blanky> mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[06:18] <blanky> is one of them
[06:18] <Turtlewind> sorry to ask again, but can anyone help me with a problem with Sudo?
[06:18] <blanky> but it's not working in firefox, it works in mozilla but not firefox
[06:18] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, shoot
[06:18] <jedrick> ecobuntu: man got conflict, i think i have to remove some gaim first.
[06:18] <ecobuntu> Turtlewind: it's best just to ask the question then asking for permission :) (cause that's what we're here for is to help)
[06:19] <ecobuntu> jedrick: why?
[06:19] <Turtlewind> La_PaRCa - it tells me "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 18 10:51:39 2005"
[06:19] <blanky> I already know about the repositories...
[06:19] <blanky> look, I installed mplayer-mozilla
[06:19] <Turtlewind> this is probably due to me changing the system time, which was badly wrong on my computer
[06:19] <jedrick> ecobuntu: dunno. maybe the installed gaim-vv
[06:19] <blanky> plugin, and its working in mozilla, but not FIREFOX
[06:19] <blanky> *caps*
[06:19] <kronicdreamer> is there anything i can download to use windows stuff for linux?
[06:19] <ecobuntu> jedrick: dpkg -r gaim-vv
[06:20] <ecobuntu> jedrick: oops...put a sudo in front of that
[06:20] <Turtlewind> and now Sudo thinks that it was last used at some point in the future, so it doesn't want to let me play
[06:20] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: wine
[06:20] <bimberi> ubotu tell kronicdreamer about wine
[06:20] <Turtlewind> sudo -k and -K don't work (they give me the same 'too far in the future' error
[06:20] <jedrick> ok
[06:20] <kronicdreamer> is there a site?
[06:20] <ecobuntu> jedrick: did that work?
[06:20] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: http://www.winehq.org
[06:20] <kronicdreamer> just point me in the right dir
[06:20] <kronicdreamer> kewl thnx
[06:20] <ecobuntu> jedrick:  sudo apt-get install gaim-vv (if that worked)
[06:21] <Turtlewind> but strangely, it works perfectly in the virtual terminals
[06:21] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: np :) - note that it's only for i386 (not amd64 or ppc...)
[06:21] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, probably
[06:21] <intelikey> kronicdreamer the right direction is use apt to install wine
[06:21] <ana> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:21] <ecobuntu> tritium are you a moderator?
[06:21] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, you probably have some funky timestamps in a file
[06:21] <jedrick> ecobuntu: when i try to remove it says that ignoring request to remove gaim-vv which is not installed
[06:21] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, what were you trying to do?
[06:21] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: indeed, install it via ubuntu, but learn about it on that site
[06:22] <jedrick>  Conflicts: gaim
[06:22] <jedrick>            Conflicts: gaim-gnome
[06:22] <jedrick>            Conflicts: gaim-data but 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[06:22] <jedrick> oops
[06:22] <ecobuntu> jedrick: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:22] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok, I was able to start cfdisk properly, but the parition wasn't shrunk like I thought.  There is no room left.  So I tried parted and it won't change it as it thinks its a ext2 filesystem ( which it was when I first installed, but I upgraded it ) and says it has a "strange layout and can't change it "YET"  "
[06:22] <Turtlewind> La_PaRCa - I am trying to install updates
[06:22] <ecobuntu> jedrick: what does that do?  in the future...use pastebin
[06:22] <ecobuntu> jedrick: someone will yell at you
[06:22] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, try: sudo -K
[06:22] <ecobuntu> or #flood
[06:23] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, then try again with the updates
[06:23] <jedrick> ok
[06:23] <lightbright> how can I install libdvdcss?
[06:23] <ecobuntu> !dvd
[06:23] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:23] <Turtlewind> I tried that; it gives me the same 'too far in the future' error
[06:23] <ecobuntu> !libdvdcss2
[06:23] <ubotu> it has been said that libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[06:23] <lightbright> ecobuntu: thanks
[06:23] <ecobuntu> lightbright: just run the script
[06:24] <tritium> ecobuntu, yes, I'm an op.  What's the matter?
[06:24] <mustard5> Turtlewind, you having a sudo issue after changing the time?
[06:24] <Turtlewind> mustard5 - yes
[06:24] <ecobuntu> tritium: nothing...just curious...you always want to know who to make friends with :)
[06:24] <totaka> Hi, is there anything special do I need to do to allow local user to upload a file?
[06:24] <totaka> vsftpd
[06:24] <mustard5> Turtlewind, have you tried rebooting?
[06:24] <intelikey> N6REJ my sujestion is burn any and all data to cd that you wish to save and kill the 80g monster that is ruling your kingdom, make new partitions as needed.
[06:24] <N6REJ> ;(
[06:24] <totaka> I enabled localuser to login :(
[06:25] <blanky> Guys, what do you use to play wmv files in firefox, mplayer-mozilla plugin isnt working for me in firefox
[06:25] <intelikey> N6REJ you have created a monster.     it happens.
[06:25] <mustard5> Turtlewind, I was troubleshooting with someone last week on the same problem..we tried all types of commands to reset the timestamp, but in the end a reboot fixed it
[06:25] <ecobuntu> N6REJ: what's wrong with fdisk?  didn't you say you resized your partitions?  why not just install what you want to (i.e. another linux distro, windows, etc.)
[06:25] <N6REJ> intelikey: I saved alot of stuff last night to a tarball.  The only thing I'm concerned about is the regular conf files.
[06:25] <Turtlewind> mustard5 - no, I'd prefer not to right now because I'm downloading something, but if that will fix it I can do that in a few minutes
[06:25] <tritium> N6REJ, don't fret.  My laptop drive died today
[06:25] <ecobuntu> jedrick: how's it going?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  you did instll the win32codec pack?
[06:26] <Turtlewind> OK, I'll do that
[06:26] <Turtlewind> thanks a lot
[06:26] <N6REJ> ecobuntu: as I said a few ago it didn't resize like it told me.
[06:26] <dirkson> Hey all. Anyone know where the gnome applets live? My battery indicator died and I'd really like it back.
[06:26] <lightbright> ecobuntu: what script?
[06:26] <tritium> N6REJ, it didn't really resize?
[06:26] <N6REJ> <------- slaps his hand furiously for doing something so stupid that he knows better!
[06:26] <jedrick> ecobuntu: dude it says that "The following packages will be REMOVED:  gaim gaim-data gaim-encryption ubuntu-desktop" is that ok?
[06:26] <mustard5> Turtlewind, no guarantees it will work, but thats my experience with it
[06:26] <jedrick> ecobuntu: i mean the ubuntu-desktop wil be remove
[06:26] <ecobuntu> at terminal sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:26] <smudo> !upgrade
[06:26] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:26] <lightbright> ecobuntu: run what script?
[06:26] <N6REJ> tritium: nope it sure didn't... it SAID it did but it didn't
[06:26] <intelikey> N6REJ most global configuration files are in /etc/    and personal ones are in $HOME/
[06:26] <jedrick> ecobuntu: when i do the sudo apt0get install gaim-vv
[06:26] <blanky> Dr_Willis: i installed w32codecs, is that it?
[06:26] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ubuntu-desktop is fine
[06:27] <Turtlewind> I'll come back once I've rebooted and tell you whether it worked
[06:27] <ecobuntu> jedrick: it's a virtual package
[06:27] <calderstrake> does anyone here run a teamspeak server by chance?
[06:27] <mustard5> Turtlewind, that would be good
[06:27] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:27] <ecobuntu> jedrick: it's fine to remove it
[06:27] <N6REJ> intelikey: then I should be ok, cause all of /etc was backed, just not /usr/share
[06:27] <tritium> N6REJ, I see
[06:27] <ecobuntu> lightbright: at terminal sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  often theres just some funky wmv's out that ya cant fnd anything toplay.. try donloading the file manually an dplaying it.
[06:27] <lightbright> ecobuntu: I typed:  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:27] <blanky> Dr_Willis: I installed w32codecs
[06:27] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! gaim-vv, what's this
[06:27] <lightbright> ecobuntu: well that was easy :P
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  also may want to try xine, an vlc
[06:28] <ecobuntu> jedrick: just say yes...it's cause your apt is greater than 0.6
[06:28] <ecobuntu> jedrick: they are using authentication keys
[06:28] <smudo> wasn't there a bot here to answer FAQs at one point?  I'm trying to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10
[06:28] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:28] <lightbright> ecobuntu: is that all I needed to do to play back DVD?
[06:28] <ecobuntu> lightbright: should be!
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> smudo,  thats covered in the wiki in some detail.
[06:28] <N6REJ> *sigh* well thanks guys... I feel very stupid, but its my fault.
[06:28] <La_PaRCa> !upgrade
[06:28] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:28] <lightbright> ecobuntu: easy :) thanks
[06:28] <ecobuntu> np
[06:29] <ecobuntu> jedrick: so you've install gaim-vv and gaim now?
[06:29] <blanky> Dr_Willis, I tried the same wmv in mozilla and it worked
[06:29] <blanky> okay listen
[06:29] <N6REJ> intelikey: can I meet you on offtopic for a few?
[06:29] <smudo> thanks La_PaRCa
[06:29] <blanky> wmplayer-mozilla only works in mozilla (at least for me)
[06:29] <intelikey> yeah
[06:29] <blanky> not firefox
[06:29] <ecobuntu> i like being helpful
[06:29] <smudo> !upgrade
[06:29] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:29] <jedrick> ecobuntu: yes.
[06:29] <ecobuntu> jedrick: so you've got gaim installed?
[06:30] <ecobuntu> jedrick: open it up and see if the plugin appears
[06:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i specify which architecture gcc uses?  it's using i386 instead of 686.
[06:30] <lightbright> is kxdocker nice to install on Breeze?
[06:30] <blanky> how do I install xine, I installed totem-xine but I didnt know how to run it (just run totem?)
[06:30] <jedrick> ecobuntu: im still installing the gaim-vv yet
[06:30] <ecobuntu> ok
[06:30] <maddash> is there a channel dedicated to ibm thinkpads?
[06:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> blanky i believe you just run totem
[06:30] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you know you could use synaptic and not apt-get if you want
[06:31] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i'm just a command freak cause i learn linux on slackware