[19:14] <nvon> Hi. I wanted to migrate pdf2djvu from ubuntu to windows. Can anyone give me a general idea on how to do something like this?
[19:15] <bprompt> jul2000:    yes, did you burn the liveUSB to the stick with "persistent storage"?
[19:15] <ulrichard> The script I need to fix is for decrypting the root fs.
[19:15] <bprompt> hmmm
[19:16] <bprompt> jul2000:    anyhow, that's what "persistent storage" is for, to keep the changes after every session, you can even install, whatever in the session, and it'd be kept, with whatever settings you set it
[19:17] <jul2000> @bprompt
[19:17] <jul2000>  yes I did, but it didn't keep the changed desktop wallpaper when I rebooted on it after...
[19:17] <jul2000> is there an additional step to consider before restart ?
[19:18] <bprompt> jul2000:    should..... so.... not sure what you did or didn't do.... but I"ve done that quite a few times, even changed xorg.conf and it kept it like I set it
[19:18] <jul2000> ok so I probably failed to create the persistent storage properly then
[19:19] <bprompt> jul2000:      only consideration would be, let the system shutdown properly on its own processing, as opposed to have a force-poweroff by holding-down the power button
[19:19] <jul2000> I did
[19:19] <touil76> yeats : the only pages I found on google for my problem is debian related.
[19:20] <jul2000> I'll redo a stick to make sure
[19:20] <bprompt> jul2000:   well, that'd be the only consideration that I can think of, other than that, it should keep any changes you did, user or root changes
[19:21] <PrinceProspero> Hello, I have an integrated graphics chip (Intel HD Graphics 5500) and I just allocated 1024MB to it in the BIOS and that shows up fine in Windows but in Ubuntu I only see 256MB running 'lspci'. Is there additional tweaks that I need to do within Ubuntu?
[19:22] <jul2000> And when I do the install on HD from the USB, will it use the USB OS config or the default one as usual ?
[19:23] <micky219> can anyone suggest me pdf editor with almost similar editing functionality as that of Nitro..
[19:24] <bprompt> jul2000:     IIRC, it uses the usb stick, I don't recall to what extent.... but in my case, the one I noticed right off, was the xorg.conf, it used the one I had in the usb stick, IIRC it did apply most configuration changes in the stick
[19:24] <Mion> PrinceProspero: lspci doesn't show how much ram it really reserves
[19:24] <jul2000> awesome, thx
[19:25] <Mion> PrinceProspero: lspci just sees the product id and looks it up in a text file
[19:25] <Mion> PrinceProspero: basicly
[19:25] <PrinceProspero> Oh, how can I see how much it actually has then?
[19:26] <ulrichard> I think I found what I need : http://backreference.org/2010/07/04/modifying-initrdinitramfs-files/
[19:27] <jtinfors> Hi, how come there is no mit-scheme package for x64 on Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:29] <TheNumb> jtinfors: nobody packaged it I suppose.
[19:29] <FailBit> ohgod
[19:29] <FailBit> what package is ifconfig in
[19:29] <FailBit> D:
[19:29] <TheNumb> jtinfors: are you sure it's not available?
[19:30] <ObrienDave> !mit-scheme
[19:30] <ObrienDave> !info mit-scheme
[19:30] <jtinfors> TheNumb: My 14.04 machine only has package for i386..
[19:30] <TheNumb> True.
[19:30] <FailBit> oh
[19:30] <FailBit> derp
[19:30] <TheNumb> jtinfors: then install mit-scheme:i386
[19:30] <FailBit> it is in /sbin
[19:31] <TheNumb> jtinfors: fyi, there is an amd64 build in vivid ;p
[19:31] <jtinfors> TheNumb: I downloaded and compiled it so Im ok, just curious about why there's no package
[19:31] <TheNumb> jtinfors: maybe there were issues in amd64 build.
[19:32] <jtinfors> TheNumb: okidok, such is the way of the world. No on to actually playing around with the parenthesis! :)
[19:33] <TheNumb> :D
[19:33] <jtinfors> s/No/Now/
[19:33] <TheNumb> jtinfors: have fun (:
[19:33] <jamiedimon> Hi, I am unable to install an Ubuntu lib, poppler-glib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10708749/
[19:33] <jamiedimon> What is wrong with apt?
[19:33] <jamiedimon> Thanks.
[19:34] <yeats> jamiedimon: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[19:35] <ObrienDave> jamiedimon, did you update repos first?
[19:35] <jamiedimon> I did run apt-get update first
[19:35] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I have ubuntu server here, and it installs fine with auto network config, but once it's installed, it doesn't work
[19:35] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:     try  --->    dmesg | grep agp  <---
[19:35] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: looks like one of your ppas broke the dependency.
[19:35] <jamiedimon> Hmm, apt-get -f install libpoppler-glib-dev
[19:35] <yeats> jamiedimon: nope, just 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[19:35] <muhammedbariseki> hello
[19:36] <trism> jamiedimon: looks like you have a ppa you removed, what is: apt-cache policy libpoppler-glib8;
[19:36] <yeats> cluelessperson: what doesn't work?
[19:36] <cluelessperson> yeats, Network unreachable
[19:36] <jamiedimon> yeats: Still wonlt work.
[19:36] <cluelessperson> yeats, just installed 5 minutes ago, nic  p4p1
[19:36] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: remove that ppa https://launchpad.net/~coolwanglu/+archive/ubuntu/pdf2htmlex/
[19:36] <jhutchins> jamiedimon: Possibly it's in a repo you don't have configured.
[19:37] <baconbeckons> If i don’t set $PATH in my dot files, how is it set? Is there a global setting for $PATH?
[19:37] <TheNumb> You have it enabled in your system. It's breaking the dependencies.
[19:37] <jamiedimon> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10708766/
[19:37] <cluelessperson> yeats, Asus Server hardware.  I'm using KVM over ip.    The MAc address seemed to have changed during install
[19:37] <jamiedimon> Argh, will that remove the pdf2htmlEX command when I do that?
[19:37] <jamiedimon> (remove the ppa)
[19:38] <TheNumb> if you run ppa-purge it will delete every package from that repo
[19:38] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: why did you install it in the first place?
[19:38] <jhutchins> jamiedimon:  libpoppler-glib-dev
[19:38] <jamiedimon> TheNumb: In order to get that command.
[19:39] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: ask the maintainer to fix their packages.
[19:39] <yeats> cluelessperson: does the interface show up in 'ifconfig'?
[19:39] <jamiedimon> Running: ppa-purge https://launchpad.net/~coolwanglu/+archive/ubuntu/pdf2htmlex/
[19:39] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: that's not the proper way of doing it.
[19:39] <PrinceProspero> bprompt, It only gives me [ 0.361879] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[19:39] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: ppa-purge ppa:coolwanglu/pdf2htmlex
[19:40] <aliman> need some help pls
[19:40] <yeats> aliman: just ask your question - someone may be able to answer
[19:40] <jamiedimon> Okay, so meanwhile I'll need to rebuild that pdf2htmlex command from source.
[19:40] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    hmmm..... maybe with -i   -> dmesg | grep -i agp  <-- I get more than that, like mappable, and aperture and total
[19:41] <coventry`> On my trusty box, having "deb https://dl.bintray.com/sbt/debian" in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sbt.list causes apt-get update to segfault.  I'm not the only one.  Who should I report this to?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28543911/sbt-install-failure-with-aptitude-on-ubuntu-14-04
[19:41] <PrinceProspero> Its unable to find an AGP bridge
[19:41] <PrinceProspero> [    0.000000] AGP: No AGP bridge found
[19:42] <sifo> less xxx.txt |grep "search this expression"                                             -> would that work?
[19:42] <jhutchins> sifo: no.
[19:43] <jhutchins> grep expression file
[19:43] <sifo> jhutchins: how do i make it search for an expression
[19:43] <TheNumb> jhutchins: well, technically he could do that using less
[19:43] <TheNumb> less file
[19:43] <TheNumb> and then /expression_to_search
[19:43] <jhutchins> sifo: grep expression file
[19:43] <PrinceProspero> bprompt and i-nex shows the same: http://i.imgur.com/4ifZ49U.png (But I assume theyre running lspci to get their info?)
[19:43] <pavlos> baconbeckons, /etc/environment
[19:43] <jhutchins> TheNumb: You can specify the search expression on the command line as well, but not with grep.
[19:43] <sifo> can you put it using the example I gave?
[19:44] <PrinceProspero> could it be that Ive somehow the wrong drivers..?
[19:44] <bprompt> sifo:  you could just go inside "less"  and from there type  " / "   and then enter the string to find,    "n" for "next"
[19:44] <gp5st> hello. I'm having trouble finding the docs to force a user to reset their password via ssh. Specifically I want to do it for sftp users and I've seen there are methods that sftp clients support http://winscp.net/eng/docs/ui_authenticate#password_change but cannot figure out how
[19:44] <baconbeckons> pavlos: does root use /etc/environment?
[19:44] <jhutchins> grep "search this expression" xxx.txt
[19:44] <coventry`> Is there a better place to ask my question about apt-get segfaulting?  I would ask on #debian but the first thing they're going to do is say I need to repro it on a debian box.
[19:44] <pavlos> baconbeckons, it may use a subset ... I dont remember off hand
[19:44] <baconbeckons> pavlos: or does /etc/environment get used when you sudo?
[19:45] <n-iCe> Laptop Dell Latitude E6220 I7 2.8ghz,12.5,128gb Ssd,8gb Ram or Laptop Lenovo Ideapad Y510p I7 2.4ghz 8gb Ram 24gb Ssd + 1tb or Dell Core I7 Quad, 12gb Ram, Ssd 256gb or Asus K45v Core I7, 12gb Ram, 240 Gb ssd Hyperx
[19:45] <jamiedimon> Thank you, I got my pkg-config working!
[19:45] <TheNumb> coventry`: apt segfaulting? what?
[19:45] <coventry`> It seems like a potentially serious security hole.
[19:46] <pavlos> baconbeckons, sudo -i then echo $PATH gives me a subset of my $PATH
[19:46] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    what about if you look for "gart" instead ?
[19:46] <coventry`> TheNumb: I'm getting the same error as reported in http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28543911/sbt-install-failure-with-aptitude-on-ubuntu-14-04
[19:46] <coventry`> "E: Sub-process https received a segmentation fault."
[19:46] <jamiedimon> No chance I will get the maintainer in time. This has to be deployed today. How difficult is it to build a lib like this for Ubuntu myself? https://github.com/coolwanglu/pdf2htmlEX
[19:47] <coventry`> TheNumb: Although for me it's happening in the apt-get update phase.
[19:47] <baconbeckons> pavlos: for me, echo ‘echo $PATH’ | sudo su gives me something different than what is set in /etc/environment and i can’t figure out how that is being set
[19:47] <PrinceProspero> bprompt I get the same as previously  [0.361879] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[19:47] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: all the required files are already there https://github.com/coolwanglu/pdf2htmlEX/tree/master/debian
[19:47] <OerHeks> coventry`, so you added a source without key ? those debian sources are not supported here btw
[19:47] <TheNumb> jamiedimon: just google how to build a package
[19:48] <akkad> some how apt-get -f install broke libc6 https://gist.github.com/e6f362663aaae8c7490e
[19:48] <OerHeks> !build
[19:48] <jamiedimon> TheNumb: And it's the same for Ubuntu, as Ubuntu is Debian?
[19:48] <OerHeks> !google | TheNumb
[19:48] <coventry`> OerHeks: Not asking for support, looking for a report channel.  If it's a known issue, that's great.
[19:48] <jamiedimon> TheNumb: Will definitely try Google.
[19:49] <TheNumb> OerHeks: please stop abusing the bot :(
[19:49] <OerHeks> TheNumb, then stop suggesting google, thanks.
[19:49] <jhutchins> TheNumb: There are also good practices specific to ubuntu that would not be generically found by google.
[19:50] <TheNumb> jhutchins: depends.
[19:50] <OerHeks> coventry`, most likely your issue is because of the missing encryptionkey
[19:50] <Mion> baconbeckons: sudo su makes no sense at all
[19:50] <jhutchins> TheNumb: No, is true.
[19:50] <tnkhanh> hi libnepomukwidgets4abi1 depends on itself
[19:50] <tnkhanh> can anyone check?
[19:51] <TheNumb> tnkhanh: which version of ubuntu?
[19:51] <jhutchins> TheNumb: Each distribution environment has it's own assumptions about how you will set up your builds, and working within them is a LOT easier than making your own arbitrary setup.
[19:51] <tnkhanh> TheNumb: 15.04 beta
[19:51] <TheNumb> tnkhanh: /j #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <TheNumb> tnkhanh: and no, it doesn't look like it depends on itself.
[19:52] <tnkhanh> TheNumb: hm ok
[19:52] <tnkhanh> how to check that
[19:54] <aliman> can any1 tell me do i get this when i want to boot and install ubuntu gnome? http://i.imgur.com/514gz5c.jpg?1?7003
[19:54] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/46197/how-to-check-video-memory-size    seems to differ, depending on what module is loaded, and that in turn depends on what videocard is installed
[19:54] <aliman> i downloaded the official version from ubuntugnome.org
[19:54] <TheNumb> aliman: did you use unetbootin?
[19:55] <aliman> TheNumb, what is that
[19:55] <TheNumb> aliman: how did you make the liveusb?
[19:55] <aliman> startup disk
[19:55] <TheNumb> ubuntu gnome 14.10?
[19:56] <aliman> yes
[19:56] <TheNumb> from ubuntu 14.04?
[19:56] <NightMonkey> Howdy. Silly question - is there a preferred method for setting what "localhost" means in /etc/hosts? I have a trusty box that comes with it undefined, is that expected?
[19:56] <PrinceProspero> Ok bprompt, well Ill just assume it actually has ability to go up to 1024MB since its allocated in the BIOS. Ill do some more searching though, thanks for your time
[19:56] <aliman> from ubuntu unity 10.04 yes
[19:56] <aliman> 14*
[19:57] <bprompt> PrinceProspero:    mine shows a total of 2gbs, with an aperture of 256mbs
[19:58] <TheNumb> aliman: there used to be a bug where usb-creator woudn't be able to create a liveusb with 14.10 or newer.
[19:58] <TheNumb> I'm not sure whether it has been fixed or not.
[19:59] <baconbeckons> pavlos: i figured it out, it was in /etc/sudoers. thanks for your help
[20:00] <aliman> so what should i do
[20:00] <pavlos> baconbeckons, yes, you were offine so I did not comment ... man sudoers has lots of stuff
[20:01] <baconbeckons> :)
[20:02] <TheNumb> aliman: there are other ways of creating a usb install drive.
[20:02] <TheNumb> aliman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:05] <EriC^^> aliman: dd is usually fail-proof
[20:06] <sdgdfgfdsg> you hack my server ok samp.bmhp.net:7777 hack me hehhe
[20:06] <sdgdfgfdsg> you hack my server ok samp.bmhp.net:7777 hack me hehhe
[20:06] <TheNumb> sdgdfgfdsg: no.
[20:07] <sdgdfgfdsg> you hack my server ok samp.bmhp.net:7777 hack me hehhe
[20:07]  * bprompt hands sdgdfgfdsg  a few cough drops, for his "hacking"
[20:07] <JuJuBee> I have a dual core 2.5 laptop with 6G ram.  Any real diff between using 32 vs 64 bit ubuntu?
[20:08] <aliman> didnt really understood what i need to do lolUnetbootin
[20:08] <aliman> If you're using UEFI, do not currently use Unetbootin with Debian iso files due to a bug.
[20:08] <aliman> Install Unetbootin from the repositories
[20:08] <aliman> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[20:08] <aliman> Start it, select an ISO file or a distribution to download, select a target drive (USB drive or Hard Disk), select persistence if you wish, then reboot once done. If your USB drive doesn't show up, reformat it as FAT32.
[20:08] <zykotick9> wow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick doesn't actually suggest using dd/cat/cp only 3rd party tools...
[20:08] <EriC^^> aliman: unetbootin is prone to failing too
[20:08] <EriC^^> aliman: use the dd method
[20:08] <TheNumb> aliman: don't use it.
[20:09] <TheNumb> it will fail because 14.04 has syslinux 5x. not 6.x
[20:09] <gr33n7007h> another vote for dd :)
[20:09] <Jakey2> how do i monitor my router network
[20:09] <Jakey2> on ubuntu
[20:09] <TheNumb> or even worse :|
[20:09] <TheNumb> it has syslinux 4 :D
[20:09] <bprompt> JuJuBee:     64 bit will install and use 64bit apps, for one, 64bits app, take advantage of the 64bit per cycle per core, whilst 32bit ones do not, simply fallback to 32bit
[20:13] <JuJuBee> bprompt: right, but will there be a noticeable performance gain?  Reason is there is 1 app I would like to be able to run (work with an interactive white board in classroom) that will not work under 64 bit.
[20:14] <aliman> ok i try with dd now. i hope i'll handle it it takes a while until i learn to use linux
[20:14] <EriC^^> aliman: use bs=4M so it finishes quicker
[20:14] <aliman> bs=4M?
[20:15] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
[20:15] <Dewin|work> It tells dd to work with 4MB blocks, which is likely to more optimal for your hardware than whatever dd's default (512-byte blocks?) is.
[20:16] <TheNumb> cp *.iso /dev/sdX will also work
[20:16] <TheNumb> ;p
[20:16] <shovel_boss> i heard hackers use linux
[20:16] <Dewin|work> especially if you're working on a flash drive, where it's typically 4k blocks -- so if dd wants to write a 512-byte block, it requires the flash to internally read the entire 4k, change the relevant 512 bytes in memory, and write the entire 4k back... just in time to turn around and do it again.
[20:16] <shovel_boss> a hacker from anonymous told me to install ubunto
[20:16] <aliman> EriC^^, what is that going to do?
[20:16] <shovel_boss> i can become just like him
[20:16] <shovel_boss> please help me
[20:16] <shovel_boss> i want to be a hacker just like you guys
[20:16] <EriC^^> aliman: Dewin|work explained it
[20:17] <k1l_> shovel_boss: we dont support any of that in here. please stop asking
[20:17] <TheNumb> k1l_: I guess he's just a bad troll.
[20:17] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/32-bit-64-bit-operating-systems/     <----  memory handling per cycle, that should make a difference
[20:18] <shovel_boss> k1I_ let me join your cult!!111
[20:18] <octavian> will I lose java and other programs if I migrate from ubuntu 14.10 to lubuntu 14.04?
[20:19] <teward> octavian: you'd be doing a downgrade and a migration - you'll have to reinstall your programs, yes.
[20:19] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    so... in short, it does make a difference, since a 64bit will take advantage of the 64bit cpu allocation for memory and processing per cycle
[20:20] <aliman> dd: failed to open ‘/path/to/iso’: No such file or directory
[20:20] <JuJuBee> bprompt: someone else in linux community told me 32bit will handle 64G ram?
[20:20] <EriC^^> aliman: you have to put the path to the iso you downloaded
[20:20] <k1l_> aliman: change "/path/to/iso" to the actual path to where the linux is located
[20:20] <EriC^^> like /home/aliman/Downloads/lubuntu.iso
[20:20] <Dewin|work> and do likewise where /dev/sdX refers to where your flash drive is.
[20:21] <EriC^^> aliman: yes, type sudo parted -l , and get the name of your usb, sdb sdc etc.
[20:22] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    hehe,  the bit part, is just usually, how much info the cpu handles per cycle, a 1ghz cpu, means, 1billion cycles per second, a 1ghz 32bit cpu, means 1billion cycle, and 32bits, or 32/8  = 4bytes per cycle, 64bit, should be   64/8 = 8bytes per cycle
[20:22] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    but the OS and app need to "intune" with the bit handling, so, a 64bit OS with a 64bit, would, a 32bit one does not
[20:22] <EriC^^> aliman: dont get the name wrong, it will write to the hdd or whatever you tell it to
[20:22] <acz32> i'm new to linux. i read ubuntu is based on debian unstable. is there a reason why new software in ubuntu is released in update packs every 6 months as opposed to rolling-release?
[20:23] <k1l_> acz32: yes, because the user gets a stable base for 6 months (or even more for the LTS release)
[20:23] <JuJuBee> bprompt: thanks, but still doesn't tell me if I will notice a difference.  Guess I can just install a 32 bit version and mess with it.
[20:24] <JuJuBee> gtg
[20:24] <aliman> Model: USB FLASH DRIVE (scsi)
[20:24] <aliman> Disk /dev/sdb: 8020MB
[20:24] <aliman> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[20:24] <aliman> Partition Table: msdos
[20:24] <aliman> \
[20:24] <EriC^^> ok, so use /dev/sdb
[20:24] <bprompt> JuJuBee:    for the app to be able to use it, of course, the app must be running on a 64bit OS, and the app itself must be of 64bit archicture, and of course, the cpu must also be a 64bit cpu
[20:24] <acz32> k1l_: stable as in nothing changes, or as in more likely to not crash or have issues
[20:25] <k1l_> acz32: both
[20:25] <frugalhelp> Hi, is there any way to do a frugal install of an OS to an empty hard drive, i.e. one without any Linux distro already installed on it?
[20:25] <teward> acz32: 'stable' means both of those things :P
[20:25] <frugalhelp> All the instructions I see assume you already have Linux installed
[20:26] <k1l_> frugalhelp: of course you can. just boot the install media (usb or dvd) and use the installer
[20:26] <frugalhelp> I already tried unetbootin, but it didn't detect my external USB hdd
[20:26] <frugalhelp> And unfortunately Lubuntu install doesn't detect it either
[20:27] <aliman> if like this is ok then nothing happendsudo dd if=/home/aliman/Downloads/ubuntu-gnome-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[20:27] <k1l_> frugalhelp: you want to install onto that usb-disk or use that disk as install medium?
[20:27] <frugalhelp> If no one has any suggestions, I can at least try eSATA connection on another computer
[20:27] <EriC^^> aliman: what do you mean?
[20:27] <frugalhelp> Install onto USB-disk. And then be able to boot from that disk on various computers (thus the frugal install)
[20:27] <aliman> i wroted that in termnal and pressed enter. nothing happend
[20:28] <EriC^^> it just returned?
[20:28] <frugalhelp> In my case, I'm trying to get Parted Magic installed, but it would be useful for other OS's as well
[20:28] <EriC^^> aliman: can you paste the command and whatever followed?
[20:28] <k1l_> aliman: what means nothing happend? it doesnt show a progressbar. it just runs till its done
[20:28] <admin__> hello
[20:28] <frugalhelp> k1l_:  Tell you what, I'll try connecting with eSATA on the other computer, then I'll come back if it doesn't work
[20:28] <aliman> nothing happend means nothing happend. no progress bar nothing
[20:28] <Dewin|work> ZCZ32: Debian stable is the "This has been tested and in production for a long time, any possible issues have been worked out."  Debian unstable is newer software, decently tested but may still have some significant bugs (but likely fixed quickly.).  Debian testing is a mix between the wild west and 'here thar be dragons'
[20:29] <EriC^^> aliman: is it still running?
[20:29] <Dewin|work> acz32:  What I typed above, with less tab-completion fail.
[20:29] <EriC^^> or did you get the prompt back?
[20:29] <frugalhelp> k1l_: Thanks for the help, brb if it doesn't work
[20:29] <aliman> well now happend something after a while...
[20:29] <aliman> aliman@aliman-Lenovo-G50-70:~$ sudo dd if=/home/aliman/Downloads/ubuntu-gnome-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[20:29] <aliman> 249+1 records in
[20:29] <aliman> 249+1 records out
[20:29] <aliman><PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (1,0 GB) copied, 110,396 s, 9,5 MB/s
[20:29] <aliman> aliman@aliman-Lenovo-G50-70:~$
[20:30] <k1l_> aliman: that is fine
[20:30] <D3F3F> hi ....
[20:33] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm getting pings from 40ms - 1000ms to my server on a linksys wireless router
[20:34] <aliman> is it possible to format usb in terminal?
[20:35] <TheNumb> aliman: of course.
[20:35] <TheNumb> aliman: but you might as well do that using gparted.
[20:36] <virgil> apt-get a new life
[20:36] <_X_C_V_B_> LOL
[20:36] <bprompt_> aliman:     to write the .iso to the usb, you don't need to format it first, you could simply have "dd" write it out, and it will overwrite anything that was there
[20:37] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm getting pings from 40ms - 1000ms to my server on a linksys wireless router
[20:37] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: cool.
[20:37] <k1l_> _X_C_V_B_: and where is the ubuntu issue with that?
[20:37] <TheNumb> Is that router your server?
[20:37] <TheNumb> or what
[20:37] <_X_C_V_B_> on a windows machine it's it's 40-50
[20:38] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: over wifi?
[20:38] <TheNumb> ethernet?
[20:38] <_X_C_V_B_> my laptop(ubuntu 14.04)  -> linksys -> internet -> server
[20:38] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: WIFI or ethernet?
[20:39] <TheNumb> ...
[20:39] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: cable connection?
[20:39] <_X_C_V_B_> on a different wireless router the ping isn't so high
[20:39] <_X_C_V_B_> WIFI
[20:39] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: there we go...
[20:39] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: which chipset?
[20:40] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: lspci | grep Network
[20:41] <_X_C_V_B_> TheNumb: 01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[20:41] <TheNumb> hmm, realtek
[20:43] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: and which kernel version?
[20:43] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: the thing is, the support for realtek's wifi chipset has been improving only recently.
[20:43] <aliman> bprompt_, so you mean if i use that dd command will wipe all 1st and then copy the file?
[20:44] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: and that's the exact issue I have been dealing with on that other laptop.
[20:44] <k1l> aliman: yes. if you use dd you got a cleared usb drive with only the exact copy from the .iso on it
[20:45] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: is you router's channel set to auto?
[20:45] <aliman> k1l, ok thx so i dont have to worry about what was there before
[20:45] <k1l> aliman: no
[20:45] <XCVB> fucking wifi
[20:45] <bprompt_> aliman:     pretty much, yes, "dd" does "raw copy", it writes at sector 0, down till it finishes, regardless of what's on sector 0 of the device/stick, if the iso is bootable, the sector 0 will contain all that and the copy will also be bootable, it could be a windows image, and "dd" will write it just the same, since it's "raw" and irrelevant of content specs
[20:45] <TheNumb> XCVB: <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: is you router's channel set to auto?
[20:46] <TheNumb> XCVB: also, which kernel version.
[20:46] <WillW> Hey guys, I'm trying to write a bash script to execute a program, but terminal is saying it isn't found. The file even has +x perms. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10709076/
[20:46] <aliman> ok thz
[20:47] <XCVB> TheNumb: kernal: 3.13.0-48-generic
[20:47] <aliman> cya in a few wanna try boot it
[20:47] <bekks> WillW: Whats the first line of that script?
[20:47] <WillW> bekks: #!bin/bash
[20:47] <bekks> WillW: Thats wrong.
[20:48] <bekks> WillW: Replace it with: #!/bin/bash
[20:48] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: I'd suggest upgrading the kernel to the one from Utopic.
[20:48] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[20:48] <bprompt_> aliman:       dd if=YOURIMAGE.iso of=/dev/YOURUSBSTICK   <--- no numbers, bear that in mind, so, say, your usb is /dev/sdb  then, just use /dev/sdb   NOT /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sbd2  or any numbering, just the device itself, /dev/sdb
[20:48] <WillW> LOL, tyvm bekks
[20:48] <TheNumb> _X_C_V_B_: the support for realtek's wifi has been improving recently.
[20:48] <bekks> WillW: yw :)
[20:48] <delhivery_> i m not able to join django community here. Please help
[20:48] <bekks> delhivery_: Why not?
[20:49] <TheNumb> delhivery_: probably because you nickname is not registered
[20:49] <k1l> delhivery_: ask in #freenode if you got issues with non ubuntu channels on this network
[20:49] <TheNumb> delhivery_: I'm able to join the channel no problem.
[20:49] <delhivery_> how can i register my name on django
[20:50] <TheNumb> on freenode
[20:50] <bekks> !register | delhivery_
[20:50] <TheNumb> Yup, #django requires you to have a registered nickname +cnrt
[20:51] <XCVB> TheNumb: I swapped routers
[20:51] <XCVB> It's works better with a different router
[20:52]  * XCVB waits for _X_C_V_B_ to leave
[20:52] <TheNumb> XCVB: is the wifi channel on your router set to auto?
[20:52] <bekks> XCVB: If it is registered, just ghost it.
[20:53] <XCVB> TheNumb: how do I tell?
[20:53] <TheNumb> It used to work better if it's not set to auto on my realtek wifi card.
[20:53] <XCVB> what?
[20:53] <TheNumb> XCVB: check your settings in the control panel.
[20:53] <XCVB> TheNumb: which one
[20:53] <TheNumb> XCVB: router's
[20:55] <_X_C_V_B_> TheNumb: I swapped routers so yeah
[20:55] <_X_C_V_B_> Now I 40ms -100 ms
[20:56] <delhivery_> i already have a registration with nickname ajay2611, but not able to enter hexchat with that nickname. Please help
[20:56] <ParSalian> try #hexchat
[20:56] <TheNumb> delhivery_: ajay2611 is connected right now
[20:57] <delhivery_> !register | delhivery_
[20:57] <TheNumb> You'd have to kick the ghost nickname.
[20:57] <EriC^^> delhivery_: try /nickserv ghost ajay2611 <password>
[20:58] <xinobrax> Hi, I'm currently using Ubuntu Gnome 15.05....for some reason it keeps removing Krita!!! I can install it and it runs fine...and a few minutes later it's gone....what the...?
[20:58] <xinobrax> *15.04 sry
[20:58] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1
[20:58] <xinobrax> ubottu: thx
[20:58] <xinobrax> -.-
[20:59] <daftykins> tee-hee
[20:59] <TheNumb> :DDD
[20:59] <tafat> :)
[21:02] <delhivery_> Eric^^: my nickname is already in use and now it's ghosted. what should i do
[21:02] <EriC^^> delhivery_: /nick ajay2611
[21:02] <delhivery_> its saying already in use
[21:03] <EriC^^> did it say it ghosted it?
[21:03] <delhivery_> yes
[21:03] <k1l> delhivery_: talk to #freenode for issues with freenode. they can explain and sort that
[21:03] <TheNumb> ^
[21:03] <delhivery_> ok
[21:03] <EriC^^> delhivery_: do you want to use it? or just join the channel?
[21:03] <teward> EriC^^: they just left
[21:04] <sifo> scp file.txt user@host.com:/home/usersafio
[21:04] <xinobrax> btw, why is Natron not available in the official ubuntu repository? :/
[21:04] <sifo> is that correct use of scp?
[21:04] <TheNumb> sifo: should work
[21:04] <EriC^^> sifo: yeah
[21:05] <ajay2611> jdsfls
[21:05] <ajay2611> join #django
[21:05] <loulis> Hello.  Can someone help me with video drivers?
[21:05] <TheNumb> loulis: probably.
[21:06] <ajay2611> can someone help me joing django community here.. /join #django is not working for me
[21:06] <EriC^^> ajay2611: you have to identify, /nickserv identify <password>
[21:06] <k1l> ajay2611: last time now: please ask in #freenode
[21:07] <sifo> TheNumb: EriC^^ how do I specifcy port'
[21:07] <Pici> xinobrax: Probably because no one has packaged it for Debian or Ubuntu
[21:07] <EriC^^> sifo: -p <port>
[21:07] <sifo> EriC^^: but where
[21:07] <EriC^^> sifo: sorry -P
[21:08] <loulis> ok my system.  Lenovo g700. Ubuntu gnome 14.10 install the proprietary drivers for nvidia and it gives me a login menu andf when i hit the psw freeze and it is like broken screen
[21:08] <EriC^^> sifo: scp -P <port> <file> user@host:/path
[21:10] <CrowX-> in the live cd iso, how can I access the live cd's system(files and directories) without booting from it?
[21:10] <CrowX-> I extracted the .iso
[21:10] <EriC^^> CrowX-: how did you extract it?
[21:10] <CrowX-> but I can't find the system snapshot
[21:11] <CrowX-> EriC^^, right click and extract here :)
[21:11] <CrowX-> I can see a bunch of files like boot EFI casper etc. etc.
[21:12] <loulis> (loulis) ok my system.  Lenovo g700. Ubuntu gnome 14.10 install the proprietary drivers for nvidia and it gives me a login menu andf when i hit the psw freeze and it is like broken screen
[21:12] <CrowX-> but I need to access the root ones, i.e. mainly 'lib'
[21:13] <loulis> help please? Someone?
[21:14] <zykotick9> CrowX-: could this be an XY-problem?  What are you trying to do?  What do you want off of the LiveCD?
[21:14] <loulis>  :)
[21:15] <loulis> 13,0 my system.  Lenovo g700. Ubuntu gnome 14.10 install the proprietary drivers for nvidia and it gives me a login menu andf when i hit the psw freeze and it is like broken screen
[21:16] <zykotick9> !patience | loulis
[21:17] <CrowX-> zykotick9, I want the modules.alias file :)
[21:18] <loulis> . Oh sorry..  I havent chat gor years and i saw my message going up and sent it again so some one could see it.  I wont repeaat that.  I did my search alreeady and i hope that someone give me the solution that i didnt find...  Thank you..
[21:19] <daftykins> loulis: what do you mean 13,0 ?
[21:20] <loulis> Thats nothing. Trying to change the color here.
[21:21] <loulis> :p
[21:21] <frib> I seem to have messed up my grub installation and now get a grub prompt when i boot my ubuntu installation.  How can I fix this? thanks
[21:21] <EriC^^> !grub
[21:21] <daftykins> so glad colours are banned.
[21:22] <EriC^^> they are? hmm
[21:22] <mcphail> loulis: It would be more helpful to explain your problem clearly. Try to rephrase your question in proper English or ask in an ubuntu subforum for your native language.
[21:23] <EriC^^> hmm
[21:23] <Bashing-om> CrowX-: Maybe a better option: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot ; Boot the .iso from grub .
[21:23] <Jakey2> how do i monitor my home network traffic on ubuntu
[21:24] <EriC^^> Jakey2: wireshark?
[21:26] <CrowX-> Bashing-om, can you instead upload your modules.alias if you have a fairly new kernel version?
[21:28] <Pooterbear> help
[21:29] <azizLIGHT> anyone use caffeine and watch flash videos?
[21:30] <azizLIGHT> caffeine works for youtube but not other flash sites like twitch?
[21:30] <frib> im trying to reinstall grub and get this error: Warning: this gpt partition label contains no block list embedding won't be possible, will not proceed with blocklists
[21:30] <EriC^^> frib: are you booted in uefi mode? type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[21:31] <loulis> Ok i have installed ubuntu-gnome 14.10 on my laptop (lenovo g700). In the additional drivers section in system settings i choose to use the driver nvidia-331.  When i did it and restart the system a blank screen appeared and i could do nothing.  I hit ctrl alt f1 and i tried to remove it and install again the free driver nouveau.  I found the solution searching in ububtu forums.  After that i restarted and it shows me a login screen (a
[21:31] <daftykins> !ask | Pooterbear
[21:31] <frib> EriC^^, cannot access
[21:31] <Pooterbear> i tried installing google earth .deb, x64
[21:31] <Pooterbear> when i open it in software center, i get this error
[21:31] <EriC^^> frib: doesn't exist or cannot access?
[21:31] <frib> EriC^^, because no such file or directory
[21:32] <Pooterbear> Dependency is not satisfiable: ia32-libs
[21:32] <EriC^^> ok you're booted in legacy mode
[21:32] <frib> EriC^^, i still don't know the difference
[21:32] <EriC^^> !uefi
[21:32] <EriC^^> frib: reboot in uefi mode
[21:32] <virgil> has anyone any experience with irssi?
[21:34] <bekks> !ask | virgil
[21:34] <frib> EriC^^, how can i do that if my grub doesn't work? i had to boot this partition off a persistent usb
[21:35] <EriC^^> frib: boot the usb in uefi mode
[21:35] <frib> EriC^^, how?
[21:35] <EriC^^> frib: hold on, have you mounted your installation?
[21:35] <frib> EriC^^, i booted the installation on my main disk using the grub from the usb
[21:35] <virgil> I am having trouble getting onto a server using irssi as the irc client, can anyone help?
[21:36] <EriC^^> frib: oh ok
[21:36] <daftykins> virgil: likely you're connecting to the wrong hostname+port, read up whatever servers details it is to check.
[21:36] <EriC^^> type ls /boot/efi
[21:36] <frib> EFI
[21:37] <EriC^^> ok so you're using uefi
[21:37] <EriC^^> you're not booted in uefi mode though
[21:37] <frib> i believe you
[21:37] <cxdvty> Is Ubuntu touch possible on windows phone
[21:37] <EriC^^> frib: try booting the usb alone in uefi mode
[21:37] <k1l> cxdvty: if the phone is capable of running other OSs. but better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[21:38] <EriC^^> and then chroot
[21:38] <virgil> i will thanks! whenever i connect to say irc.freenode.org it will say my nick is in use and if i try to register a new one it says my name is already in use no matter what i type
[21:38] <frib> EriC^^, ok
[21:38] <k1l> virgil: then choose a different unique nickname.
[21:39] <virgil> Ive tried registering a new one
[21:39] <k1l> virgil: and if you are connected with virgil right now you cant use virgil on the other client at the same time
[21:39] <TurtleDan> Has anyone had freezes usin FireFox?
[21:39] <rebs> everyone has
[21:39] <TurtleDan> along with other programs and such.
[21:39] <k1l> TurtleDan: start firefox from a terminal and see what errors it brings up in there
[21:40] <virgil> thanks!
[21:40] <TurtleDan> I was havin freezes, removed firefox and so far no freezes.
[21:40] <cxdvty> Is Ubuntu touch possible on windows phone
[21:40] <cxdvty> ok thank you k1l
[21:40] <k1l> cxdvty: i answered that
[21:40] <frib> EriC^^, so i need to mount sys proc and dev then chroot ?
[21:40] <cxdvty> k1l I accidentally hit up arrow and it sent again
[21:40] <EriC^^> frib: yeah and /dev/pts and /run
[21:41] <EriC^^> won't hurt
[21:41] <frib> so for example: mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/pts ?
[21:41] <EriC^^> frib: also the efi partition at /boot/efi
[21:41] <TurtleDan> k1l I can't because I removed it.
[21:41] <frib> or /mnt/dev/pts rather
[21:42] <EriC^^> frib: mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts
[21:42] <frib> and do that for /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run and /boot/efi ?
[21:42] <frib> then chroot and sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[21:42] <k1l> TurtleDan: ok, than it doesnt make sense to ask questions about it since we will not fix there anyway :)
[21:42] <EriC^^> no, mount /dev/sdxY /mnt/boot/efi
[21:43] <frib> oh ok
[21:43] <TurtleDan> I targeted firefox because everytime I ran it, it not only seemed to slow the pc the longer I ran it, but also the longer it was on the more memory was gettin taken away.
[21:43] <frib> then where do I chroot into?
[21:44] <EriC^^> chroot /mnt
[21:44] <frib> ok thought so
[21:44] <EriC^^> then grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub
[21:45] <frib> ok brb
[21:47] <azizLIGHT> how do you deal with the screensaver turning on when watchign full screen video
[21:48] <azizLIGHT> i have caffeine but it doesnt always work and its annoying cause i have keep typing my password and then moving the mouse around
[21:49] <sheap> I have an HP desktop but grub install always fails because "grub-install: error: cannot open `/dev/md126': No such file or directory." does anyone know why grub wont install regularly? (besides the fact that that file doesn't exist)
[21:49] <Arrick> in xubuntu how do I make it where when I drag a window to the left or right, it will snap to half the screen, on the left or right? or snap to corners?
[21:51] <rebs> Arrick,  it should be in settings ->appearance->behavior
[21:52] <eb0t> does anyone here use xmonad
[21:52] <rebs> Arrick,  i lied- its settings ->displays ->stickyedges
[21:53] <Arrick> nope
[21:53] <Arrick> not in xfce anyways
[21:53] <rebs> its ubuntu settings
[21:53] <rebs> sry idunno about xubuntu
[21:55] <le_pig> Arrick: does this work for you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/483341/how-to-tile-window-by-mouse-to-left-right-edge-in-xfce-like-in-unity
[21:56] <Bashing-om> sheap: "md126" = multi disk = raid ??
[21:56] <Arrick> thanks le_pig that worked
[21:57] <sheap> Bashing-om: yea it has something to do with raid...I want to preserve the raid but install grub but grub can't install
[21:57] <le_pig> Arrick: I'm glad. I was actually wondering the same thing and I just learned as well. :)
[21:57] <frib> Eric^^ what should i mount on /mnt?
[21:58] <frib> Because it's remind me /mnt/dev doesn't exist and i thought the /dev/sdX went on /mnt/boot/efi
[21:58] <frib> It's telling me*
[22:00] <Arrick> /dev/sd* should be there frib
[22:02] <frib> Arrick it's asking for file type
[22:02] <iampoz> hi guys, I am having issues running a scrip on a usb drive. it is moutned any everything. I open the terminal up in the folder and type this ./start.sh but it says I dont have permissions to do that. so I am like yeah I do, and I go all sudo chmod +x start.sh and then retry the last command and no difference
[22:03] <knob> iampoz, what commands are inside the script?
[22:04] <knob> Guys, question... I don't know what update go I recently installed in my 14.10 setup... now my dual-monitor vid card only displays one monitor.  Any ideas what I can check?
[22:04] <iampoz> lots I guess, I can put it into paste bin for you if you want.. it is the game pillars of eternity from the gog.com website
[22:05] <knob> I confirmed both monitors are working, both cables are working... Ubuntu boots up and loads with one monitor connected... and it loads up and works with the other monitor connected.   Yet, when both are connected... nothing.
[22:05] <Bashing-om> iampoz: Are you cd'd (PWD) to the location of the target file ? as the './' directs, this directory right here .
[22:05] <knob> Any idea if it could be an update that I ran?
[22:05] <frib> I had a grub installation with efi boot and apparently i messed it up and can't figure out how to fix it can anyone help? Thanks so much
[22:05] <iampoz> they support linux so I was like, right on! and tryed it out. it was working fine last night but then I moved it onto a usb drive to save space and now I can not get permissions on it
[22:05] <EriC^^> frib: did you chroot?
[22:06] <acz32> if i install ubuntu and select the option to encrypt with LVM, later on in the installer when i am creating a user, it asks if i want to encrypt my home folder. should i select that or is it redundant? why is it asking again.
[22:06] <knob> acz32, additional security?
[22:06] <iampoz> yes I am in the correct directory
[22:06] <acz32> knob: how is it additional security? it's not. home directory is created under /, which was encrypted in a prior step
[22:06] <frib> Eric well i realized that you said to mount /dev/sdxY on /mnt/boot/efi
[22:07] <acz32> so it's a bit confusing
[22:07] <frib> And i cant mount the other directories without first mounting a partition on /mnt which i thought was supposed to be /dev/sdxy
[22:08] <iampoz> root@PimpTop:/media/poz/Data/Games/Pillars of Eternity# ./start.sh
[22:08] <iampoz> bash: ./start.sh: Permission denied
[22:08] <frib> What should i mount to mnt?
[22:08] <iampoz> I can put the script into a pastebin if that might help
[22:09] <frib> Eric^^ ?
[22:09] <EriC^^> frib: your installation's partition
[22:09] <EriC^^> "/"
[22:09] <frib> Ok so /dev/sda3
[22:09] <EriC^^> do you have any other partitions? /var etc. ?
[22:10] <frib> Yes i believe i have a bit partition
[22:10] <EriC^^> what's that?
[22:11] <frib> An efi partition
[22:11] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:11] <frib> So I'm assuming that comes into play here somewhere
[22:11] <EriC^^> yes mount that to /mnt/boot/efi
[22:11] <iampoz> sooo is it like a normal thing to not be able to run scrips off of a mounted usb drive?
[22:11] <frib> Ok
[22:12] <EriC^^> iampoz: it depends if you mounted it with noexec
[22:12] <EriC^^> i think
[22:12] <EriC^^> iampoz: what's going on?
[22:13] <frib> Eric I chroited in.  Where should i install grub to?
[22:13] <EriC^^> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[22:13] <iampoz> Not sure if i mounted it with noexec... I did not intentionally anyways
[22:14] <EriC^^> iampoz: type bash /path/to/script.sh
[22:14] <iampoz> I am trying to run a scrip called start.sh but it says I do not have permissions, ever after I do this sudo chmod +x start.sh
[22:14] <frib> It says embedding isn't possible again
[22:14] <EriC^^> frib: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[22:15] <frib> No such file
[22:15] <EriC^^> frib: you need to boot the usb in uefi mode
[22:15] <frib> Im booted on live CD at the moment
[22:15] <iampoz> root@PimpTop:/media/poz/Data/Games/Pillars of Eternity# bash /path/to/start.sh
[22:15] <iampoz> bash: /path/to/start.sh: No such file or directory
[22:15] <iampoz> like that?
[22:15] <frib> I don't know how
[22:15] <iampoz> oooh, never mind, i see what you mean
[22:15] <EriC^^> iampoz: you need to replace /path/to/start.sh with the path you have
[22:16] <iampoz> lol yes, I got that
[22:16] <EriC^^> iampoz: if you're in the dir, just type bash start.sh
[22:16] <knob> Guys, if I run lspci | grep VGA,  I get both graphics cards listed... yet I am only getting a display out of one monitor...
[22:16] <knob> Any... idea what could be going on?
[22:17] <frib> Eric i think the USB installation is an old version of ubuntu without efi capability
[22:17] <EriC^^> frib: try sudo modprobe efivars
[22:17] <EriC^^> frib: which ubuntu version is it?
[22:17] <iampoz> Thanks EriC^^, I got a different error, this might help me track down where I do not have permissions.... I know there is a way to add it to all files in a directory, how do I do that?
[22:18] <frib> Precise
[22:18] <EriC^^> frib: that has uefi
[22:18] <frib> Modprove failed
[22:18] <EriC^^> iampoz: you mean you want to mount it with version permissions?
[22:18] <EriC^^> *certain
[22:18] <frib> Sorry for typos I'm on cell phone
[22:19] <EriC^^> frib: ok, try pressing esc when the pc boots and choose boot options and choose uefi usb, if that doesn't work check the bios for boot options
[22:19] <Arrick> acz32, it is basically encrypting the drive, and then encrypting your home directory per user
[22:19] <EriC^^> make sure uefi is selected
[22:20] <frib> F9 boot device options
[22:20] <iampoz> Eric^^, no I want to change all the files inside of the directory to have executable permissions.
[22:20] <frib> Now there is an option for various disks or not from efi file
[22:20] <frib> Boot* from
[22:20] <EriC^^> iampoz: chmod -R +x /path/to/dir
[22:20] <EriC^^> it's recursive
[22:20] <iampoz> ah, I see. Thank you
[22:21] <sifo> http://technicalpcstuff.blogspot.com/2015/03/linux-permissions-examples.html
[22:21] <EriC^^> frib: ok, try selecting uefi usb
[22:22] <knob> Any idea what I can do with these two graphics cards?
[22:22] <azizLIGHT> how do you deal with the screensaver turning on when watchign full screen video
[22:22] <knob> Or how can I see what was... installed?   What... what to do?
[22:22] <azizLIGHT> i have caffeine but it doesnt always work and its annoying cause i have keep typing my password and then moving the mouse around
[22:23] <frib> Eric there's nothing that says uefi USB
[22:23] <EriC^^> frib: what happens when you boot right now? grub prompt?
[22:23] <frib> Yes
[22:23] <EriC^^> ok try booting from there
[22:24] <frib> With commands?
[22:24] <EriC^^> hold on
[22:24] <EriC^^> first get your installation's uuid
[22:24] <frib> OK
[22:26] <frib> Got it
[22:26] <EriC^^> ok go to the grub prompt
[22:26] <frib> OK three
[22:26] <frib> There
[22:27] <EriC^^> type insmod part_gpt
[22:27] <frib> Done
[22:27] <EriC^^> then insmod ext2
[22:27] <frib> Check
[22:28] <EriC^^> set root='hd0,gpt3'
[22:28] <frib> OK
[22:28] <EriC^^> type ls /
[22:28] <EriC^^> is your installation there?
[22:29] <frib> Unknown file system
[22:29] <EriC^^> ok try ls -l
[22:29] <frib> Nothing
[22:29] <EriC^^> ok
[22:29] <EriC^^> try ls (hd0,gpt1)
[22:30] <EriC^^> is that your efi dir?
[22:30] <frib> File system is unknown
[22:30] <jamesleimer> hello
[22:30] <frib> Sda1 is my efi partition it's vfat and sda3 is my main partition ext4
[22:31] <frib> The drive is hd1
[22:32] <frib> I set root appropriately and now can Ls /
[22:32] <frib> For my installation partition
[22:32] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:32] <EriC^^> great
[22:32] <frib> So now?
[22:33] <EriC^^> type linux /boot/vmlinuz-3........
[22:33] <EriC^^> type linux /boot/vmlinuz-3........ root=UUID=<your installation's uuid>
[22:34] <EriC^^> frib: type your kernel's name
[22:34] <frib> Vmlin not found
[22:34] <kSudo81282> Cryptsetup is telling me it failed with a bad password of option. Command line is saying No key available for this passphrase. Any ideas?
[22:34] <EriC^^> type vmlinuz and press tab a couple times
[22:34] <frib> Oh it's an abbreviation
[22:35] <jamesleimer> ksudo.. did you write the key down when you set it up?
[22:35] <frib> Generic or generic.efi. signed
[22:35] <kSudo81282> Searched google and some reference the keyboard layout causing problems
[22:35] <EriC^^> generic.efi.signed
[22:35] <kSudo81282> no sure.
[22:36] <kSudo81282> I ran bleachbit and removed some localizations and after that will not accept passphrase
[22:36] <jamesleimer> relatively new to linux, not sure if theres a way to fix it
[22:37] <kSudo81282> anyone know a way to check what keyboard layout is being booted i wonder if that could be my problem as its referenced in many articles
[22:37] <frib> Eric^^ OK
[22:38] <frib> Next?
[22:38] <EriC^^> frib: type initrd /boot/initrd.....
[22:38] <jamesleimer> couldnt you use the install disk to change or fix installation
[22:38] <frib> No server is specified
[22:39] <kSudo81282> not sure I creating a startup disk so well see what happens
[22:39] <theblindghoulie3> i finally got irssi working!!
[22:40] <EriC^^> frib: did you add the root=UUID=.... part?
[22:40] <frib> Yes
[22:40] <EriC^^> after linux /boot/vmlinuz..
[22:40] <EriC^^> ok
[22:40] <EriC^^> type search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root <your installation's uuid>
[22:40] <adam_289> connect #xlcteam
[22:42] <frib> Unspecified search type
[22:44] <EriC^^> frib: the first error means the kernel should be loaded i think
[22:45] <EriC^^> frib: try typing linux /boot/vmlinuz.... root=UUID=.... make sure the file exists
[22:45] <frib> All on one line?
[22:45] <EriC^^> yes
[22:48] <monojin> I fear I may have gone overkill on the swap partition on my bf's install; his dad is an ancient ITer and recommend "three to four times the internal memory"
[22:48] <frib> How do i make sure it exists?
[22:48] <EriC^^> frib: ls /boot
[22:48] <monojin> is 20GB of swap memory ridiculous?
[22:48] <frib> OK done
[22:48] <daftykins> monojin: yes
[22:49] <daftykins> monojin: if it's a laptop, match system RAM so hibernate and so on can work
[22:49] <EriC^^> frib: type boot
[22:49] <ObrienDave> monojin, only allocate SLIGHTLY more than RAM for swap
[22:49] <frib> Ok it booted
[22:50] <EriC^^> frib: ok
[22:50] <EriC^^> update-grub time
[22:50] <monojin> ObrienDave, daftykins: are there negative effects aside from the wasted space?
[22:50] <EriC^^> might as well grub-install too
[22:50] <frib> That's it?
[22:50] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:50] <daftykins> monojin: yes, wasted space ;)
[22:50] <frib> I could have done this all along?
[22:50] <rww> monojin: no
[22:51] <monojin> that's a relief
[22:52] <ObrienDave> monojin, only wasting drive space
[22:52] <frib> Eric^^ how can i skip the grub menu?
[22:52] <k1l> monojin: swap is really really really slow.
[22:52] <disappearedng> Hey anyone knows how to do this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29357110/gnu-screen-sending-0xf0-0xf1-to-device
[22:53] <ObrienDave> did k1l mention really? ;P
[22:53] <EriC^^> frib: remove the # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[22:53] <monojin> last time bf's dad used linux was in the 90s, and it was "zoossy linux"
[22:53] <ObrienDave> suse?
[22:53] <EriC^^> in /etc/default/grub , then update-grub
[22:53] <monojin> ObrienDave: yes
[22:53] <gameking513>  How do i remote shutdown a windows pc from ubuntu?
[22:53] <VeiledSpectre> Hello everyone - general question - when a kernel module is built from source - where does it get the string that indicates which kernel it was built against?
[22:54] <frib> Eric is already gone
[22:54] <frib> But it just sits at the menu indefinitely
[22:54] <bprompt> monojin:    depends on how much is there in physycal ram, and depends on how much is used in general
[22:54] <k1l> monojin: that is old "rule of thumb". but today you buy more ram and try not to use swap, because ddr3/4 ram is so much faster than old hdds
[22:55] <EriC^^> frib: what's timeout set to?
[22:55] <frib> 0
[22:56] <EriC^^> and grub hidden timeout?
[22:56] <frib> 0
[22:58]  * ObrienDave does NOT use swap
[22:58] <EriC^^> frib: are you sure there's no # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT ?
[22:59] <ObrienDave> *quietly suggests grub-customizer*
[23:04] <EriC^^> frib: try adding GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[23:04] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[23:04] <frib> That's there too
[23:05] <frib> But the value is 0
[23:05] <EriC^^> odd
[23:05] <EriC^^> maybe if you comment it out?
[23:06] <EriC^^> maybe 0 means sit indefinitely if it's using the recordfail one
[23:06] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[23:06] <knob> Guys... any idea what I can do with my dual monitors??
[23:06] <knob> I just... where what when?   What can I check?
[23:08] <Guest80800> quit
[23:08] <rgb-one> knob: look at them cross eyed like a chameleon
[23:09] <ObrienDave> put a / in front
[23:13] <knob> I am trying now with the Nouveau driver... see if it gets me somewhere
[23:16] <h0ddH3d>  /set weechat.look.prefix_quit " "
[23:18] <khanismatik> Is it possible to realize "please log through your browser first" in cli?
[23:19] <khanismatik> Something like that command --user ex --pass ex google.com 80
[23:26] <bewbz> I'll be building a PC in a few days when all of the parts arrive.
[23:27] <bewbz> Is installing Ubuntu really as simply as running from a USB?
[23:27] <daftykins> yes.
[23:27] <bewbz> What sort of management will I need to do in terms getting each company communicating with each other.
[23:27] <bewbz> componet*
[23:28] <k1l> bewbz: can you rephrase that question?
[23:28] <bewbz> yeah
[23:28] <daftykins> let me guess, first build?
[23:28] <bewbz> How will ubuntu "know" what kind of ram I have or that man CPU fan works
[23:28] <bewbz> Yeah, first build.
[23:29] <bewbz> Trying to save $100 on windows so I'd thought I've give linux a try
[23:29] <knob> bewbz, go for it... it will recognize pretty much everything!
[23:29] <k1l> bewbz: most of that is standarized. like acpi etc
[23:29] <bewbz> I don't get what BIOS update are though
[23:29] <knob> Really bewbz... it will know what ram you have, cpu, hard disks... etc
[23:30] <daftykins> don't know if troll or serious...
[23:30] <daftykins> bewbz: go ask in ##hardware
[23:30] <bewbz> lol i'm going to say to troll to save embarasments
[23:30] <bewbz> but really, I don't get it.
[23:30] <bewbz> I need to read more on them.
[23:30] <bewbz> too early for me to ask questions.
[23:30] <johnjohn101> bewbz: do you own any computer?
[23:31] <bewbz> What sort of Security should I install?
[23:31] <ObrienDave> it's included
[23:31] <bewbz> Yes, I have a old macbook (which I love, because crazy user friendly.)
[23:32] <ObrienDave> "user friendly" = dumbed down ;p
[23:32] <bewbz> Yeah, it's perfect for me.
[23:32] <bewbz> dumb
[23:32] <k1l> bewbz: ubuntu ships security updates to patch known security issues.
[23:33] <ObrienDave> you don't need to "install" security
[23:33] <bewbz> So I don't have to worry about getting f'd by some virus all my credit card info stolen. Literally, just stick in a USB and I'm good to go?
[23:34] <ObrienDave> !virus
[23:34] <k1l> bewbz: but that only works if you dont install software from 3rd parties. then its the 3rd party and your responibility
[23:34] <bewbz> Thank you ubottu
[23:34] <daftykins> bewbz: you install from the flash drive, not run
[23:34] <monojin> bewbz: from a recent linux convert, many hardware manufactors contribute directly to the linux kernel to make it support your hardware out of the box
[23:34] <k1l> bewbz: well, if you give some bad website your credit card details, no OS can help you there.
[23:35] <bewbz> I'm going to install a lot of third party shit, firefox, spotify, sublime, notepad, a calculator
[23:35] <ObrienDave> !language | bewbz
[23:35] <k1l> bewbz: see first if its included in the official ubuntu repos. than ubuntu will hace a look on the security updates
[23:36] <bewbz> sorry
[23:37] <bewbz> I saw in the reddit ubuntu page, some  people recommend buying a USB stick with Xubuntu on there? Do i need that. I can just install ubuntu 14.10 right on my usb stick from mac, build my pac, and boom ready togo?
[23:37] <monojin> bewbz: ubuntu comes preinstalled with firefox, a calculator, and a text editor (not to mention a full office suite)
[23:37] <ObrienDave> !unetbootin
[23:38] <bewbz> office suite, right. I need microsfot excel.
[23:38] <bewbz> forget about that. i mau need windows afterall
[23:38] <k1l> bewbz: no you dont need to buy anything.
[23:38] <ObrienDave> libreoffice will do excel
[23:38] <monojin> bewbz: libreoffice calc will do fine unless you're a mega hardcore super user (and even then...)
[23:38] <bewbz> Yeah, I thought that that'd seemed weird.
[23:38] <rgb-one> bewbz: you can also use google sheets
[23:39] <bewbz> can libreoffice save .xlsx?
[23:39] <ObrienDave> yes
[23:39] <monojin> bewbz: it may be a good idea to install libreoffice on your current OS and play with it for a while
[23:40] <bewbz> Ubuntu will recognize my Ducky Mini and monitor and usb mouse?
[23:40] <k1l> bewbz: load the usb live ubuntu on that system and we will see
[23:40] <gp5st> hello. I'm having trouble finding the docs to force a user to reset their password via ssh. Specifically I want to do it for sftp users and I've seen there are methods that sftp clients support http://winscp.net/eng/docs/ui_authenticate#password_change but cannot figure out how
[23:41] <ObrienDave> !live
[23:41] <bewbz> Thanks everyone! sorry for the swearing
[23:41] <ObrienDave> bewbz, same for all 'buntu flavors
[23:45] <acz32> why is ubuntu considered a beginner's distro? i have used debian and it's not any more difficult to use
[23:46] <k1l> acz32: look back to when ubuntu started.
[23:46] <HackerII> 7.04 was killer
[23:47] <keltim> 10.10 was the best they did
[23:47] <keltim> it was downhill from there IMO
[23:47] <HackerII> 1.04  seems good
[23:47] <acz32> ubuntu has gone downhill you mean? why
[23:47] <HackerII> 1
[23:47] <HackerII> 12
[23:49] <keltim> 1. it's messy - a great many programs out of main don't even work, it doesn't even seem like they were even compiled against the release I see so many lib errors in some of them, they keep changing everything with every release, there is little to no documentation because of that and the forums are littered with outdated and incorrect ways to do things
[23:49] <k1l> keltim: did you file bugs on the issues?
[23:50] <keltim> sometimes I do
[23:51] <keltim> the other killer for me is unity, and I know that's their baby, but it doesn't play well with anything else. So at this point if you don't like it you really should move away from ub.
[23:51] <k1l> well, lets stick to fix actual issues in here. and not in dreaming of the old gnome2 days
[23:51] <k1l> keltim: that is even more wrong.
[23:51] <Mion> can always use gnome3 instead
[23:51] <Mion> or kde or ....
[23:52] <jswagner> "I have a problem."  "Have you considered using something completely different?"
[23:52] <ricar396> the other way
[23:52] <k1l> ubuntu ships a lot of other desktops preinstalled (see the !flavours) and a lot more in the repo to be installed manually
[23:53] <keltim> yes I know, am using ubuntu-gnome as we speak
[23:55] <ricar396> ...
[23:56] <keltim> but the release since 11.x seem very ragged even beta in some respects to me
[23:56] <keltim> coming from debian
[23:56] <ricar396> red hat is better
[23:57] <keltim> well that's your pref.
[23:57] <k1l> can we put that into #ubuntu-offtopic or onto your blog? as i said we want to stick to actual ubuntu issues in here
[23:57] <ricar396> of course
[23:57] <keltim> of course
[23:57] <ricar396> xD
[23:57] <ricar396> lubuntu too
[23:58] <acz32> i don't know if this is the case with the ubuntu installer but i installed lubuntu today and there's a bug if you select the option to encrypt with LVM. so strange that it was released without noticing that when it's the LTS version, too
[23:59] <acz32> ya i guess it affects ubuntu too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1205397


[14:12] <cmaloney> morning
[14:12] <rick_h> morn
[14:22] <jrwren> Good morning.
[21:18] <mrgoodcat> good afternoon
[21:18] <mrgoodcat> see you guys at CHC tonight
[21:25] <cmaloney> Awesomesauce
[21:25] <cmaloney> I'll be there.
[21:35] <rick_h> parent/teach conf tonight so no CHC for me


[00:23] <davecheney> q: how long does it take to run zero juju tests
[00:23] <davecheney> real    26m57.934s
[00:24] <davecheney> user    76m59.990s
[00:24] <davecheney> sys     9m22.711s
[00:24] <davecheney> 26 minutes to test nothing!!
[00:24] <davecheney> go test -i ./... && time go test ./...
[00:31] <perrito666> davecheney: that cannot be the build time of the test suite
[00:35] <davecheney> that is the time to run all the tests, excluding actually running tests
[00:35] <davecheney> sorry, hang on
[00:35] <davecheney> i posted the rwong numbers
[00:35]  * perrito666 is expectant
[00:59] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: \o/ thank yuo. I saw :D
[01:00] <blahdeblah> Looks like it's some sort of leadership election strangeness
[01:02] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: m working on 1.25 and the bug 's on the radar. cannot tell u right now when it'll get some love but should happen \o/
[01:02] <davecheney> real    15m30.976s
[01:02] <davecheney> user    56m52.867s
[01:02] <davecheney> sys     2m50.591s
[01:02] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju) % go test -i ./... && time go test ./... -run=XXX
[01:02] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: cool - thanks
[01:02] <davecheney> 15:30 to build and run zero tests
[01:03] <blahdeblah> I should document my workaround on that bug
[01:03] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: tha would b fantastic!
[01:03] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: Not really; it's just "restart all the things" :-\
[01:04] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: :D
[01:04] <wallyworld> thumper: it seems that the share model functionality does not support setting readonly = true. there is a read only flag but it's always false. is that your recollection? and we never access the flag anyway
[01:04] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: it would be great to isolate the bug, i.e. minimum setup and steps to reproduce :D
[01:05] <thumper> wallyworld: hey
[01:05] <thumper> wallyworld: yes, very much so, but cmars's team is taking that on
[01:05] <thumper> I wrote the bit that made read only possible
[01:05] <wallyworld> ah, righto, thanks
[01:05] <thumper> but we don't yet support it at the cli, or client api
[01:05] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: I just deployed my env & waited.  Yesterday morning I was working on it just fine; came back yesterday evening and it was broken.
[01:05] <thumper> to set / get / list
[01:05] <wallyworld> yep
[01:06] <thumper> wallyworld: was there another question about that?
[01:07] <wallyworld> thumper: there's been discussion about create-model and who should be allowed to do it etc, as if i can create a model in your controller using your creds, i can cost you money. so i'm just seeing what's been done in that area
[01:07] <thumper> nothing
[01:08] <thumper> the current expectations are that creds are passed up explicitly
[01:08] <thumper> since that is to change
[01:08] <wallyworld> yes, in a --config file
[01:08] <thumper> there needs to be discussion
[01:09] <wallyworld> yup. i think it should be if you are the admin user of a controller you can create a model  using teh saem creds
[01:09] <wallyworld> otherwise you need to supply them
[03:15] <mup> Bug #1544847 changed: configSuite.TestNewModelConfig test failure lxd <ci> <lxd> <regression> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Fix Released> <juju-core lxd-container-type:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544847>
[03:15] <mup> Bug #1548799 changed: bootstrap from windows fails with no such file <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548799>
[03:15] <mup> Bug #1550810 changed: TestDetectCredentialsKnownLocationWindows missing region <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550810>
[03:21] <mup> Bug #1544847 opened: configSuite.TestNewModelConfig test failure lxd <ci> <lxd> <regression> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Fix Released> <juju-core lxd-container-type:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544847>
[03:21] <mup> Bug #1548799 opened: bootstrap from windows fails with no such file <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548799>
[03:21] <mup> Bug #1550810 opened: TestDetectCredentialsKnownLocationWindows missing region <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550810>
[03:33] <mup> Bug #1544847 changed: configSuite.TestNewModelConfig test failure lxd <ci> <lxd> <regression> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Fix Released> <juju-core lxd-container-type:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544847>
[03:33] <mup> Bug #1548799 changed: bootstrap from windows fails with no such file <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548799>
[03:33] <mup> Bug #1550810 changed: TestDetectCredentialsKnownLocationWindows missing region <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550810>
[03:51] <davecheney> thumper: the apiserver/client package imports juju/agent just to get one constant, which brings in the entire api client ...
[03:51] <thumper> what's the constant?
[03:51] <davecheney> const SystemIdentity = "system-identity"
[03:52] <thumper> why does the apiserver want that constant?
[03:52] <davecheney> for reasons that I do not understand
[03:52] <davecheney> the apiserver has a client
[03:52] <davecheney> and that client does things, on remote machines ?!?!
[03:52] <davecheney> i have NFI why the apiserver has a client
[03:52] <davecheney> and why that client is juju/api
[03:53] <davecheney> https://github.com/davecheney/prdeps
[03:53] <davecheney> wrote a simple tool to print out dep graphs
[03:53] <davecheney> the shit it's turning up is making my hair turn white
[03:53] <thumper> the server has a client???
[03:54] <davecheney> yes
[03:54] <davecheney> apiserver/client
[03:54] <thumper> um...
[03:54] <thumper> that is the implementation of the client facade is it not?
[03:54] <thumper> it isn't an api client
[03:54] <davecheney> but it imports the api client
[03:55] <davecheney> and then uses the api client to do stuff
[03:55] <davecheney> O_o!
[03:59] <thumper> oof
[05:41] <wallyworld> anastasiamac: if you get a moment sometime, could you please look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3999/
[05:51] <anastasiamac> wallyworld:
[05:51] <anastasiamac> looking :D
[09:05] <frobware> jam: ping, 1:1 today?
[09:09] <jam> frobware: sorry. I'm omw
[09:11] <dimitern> frobware, morning
[09:11] <frobware> dimitern: morning
[09:11] <dimitern> frobware, I have figured out how to do the multi-nic containers backed by devices
[09:12] <dimitern> frobware, I have 2 machines running - each with 2 nics, first disabled, the other one with 4 vlans
[09:12] <dimitern> frobware, and on each of these nodes, I have 2 containers running with 5 nics each, using the respective br-eth1[.xx] bridges
[09:13] <dimitern> pinging works, connecting with nc shows correct source and destination addresses
[09:14] <dimitern> so we need to make devices with physical nics, generated macs, and linked to the correct maas vlan and subnet
[09:14] <dimitern> can't do vlan interfaces on devices, but it wasn't necessary
[09:40] <mup> Bug #1551141 opened: Juju bootstrap local - cannot get replset config: not authorized for query on local.system.replset <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551141>
[09:43] <mup> Bug #1551141 changed: Juju bootstrap local - cannot get replset config: not authorized for query on local.system.replset <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551141>
[09:43] <dimitern> frobware, FYI, I've updated the spike card assigned to me with all the relevant info
[09:52] <mup> Bug #1551141 opened: Juju bootstrap local - cannot get replset config: not authorized for query on local.system.replset <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551141>
[10:01] <dooferlad_> frobware: hangout time
[12:05] <voidspace> dooferlad: frobware: dimitern: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4000/
[12:05] <voidspace> all tests pass and manual testing works
[12:19] <dimitern> voidspace, reviewed
[12:20] <frobware> voidspace: I had one question
[12:21] <voidspace> frobware: we still do name translation because maas can still use names with spaces (etc)
[12:21] <voidspace> frobware: once maas is fixed we can remove name translation
[12:21] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[12:22] <voidspace> frobware: we will kill it with fire as soon as possible :-)
[12:23] <frobware> voidspace: ok, gotcha
[12:36] <voidspace> frobware: ping
[12:40] <frobware> voidspace: pong
[12:41]  * dimitern whew ... ok vlans work across hosts and containers - tagged traffic gets untagged before reaching the container
[12:46] <voidspace> dimitern: :-)
[13:48] <perrito666> morning
[14:43] <dooferlad> voidspace, dimitern, frobware: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4002 -- The API server + mongo space change is ready for review.
[14:43] <natefinch> ericsnow: you around?
[14:45] <frobware> dooferlad: will look in a bit, just finishing up a review too.
[14:45] <dimitern> dooferlad, cheers, will look at it soon
[14:46] <dooferlad> frobware, dimitern: thanks. It looks big, but there is a huge name change in one of the test files that takes up a big chunk of it - don't be put off!
[15:26] <mup> Bug #1551276 opened: 2.0-beta2 stabilization <blocker> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551276>
[15:32] <mup> Bug #1551276 changed: 2.0-beta2 stabilization <blocker> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551276>
[15:38] <mup> Bug #1551276 opened: 2.0-beta2 stabilization <blocker> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551276>
[16:25] <natefinch> ericsnow: ping?
[16:25] <ericsnow> natefinch: hey
[16:26] <natefinch> ericsnow: hey... I'm working on that upgrade charm, pull metadata from charmstore card
[16:26] <natefinch> ericsnow: there's a task that says "Set available field in resource doc."  ... is that out of date?
[16:26] <ericsnow> natefinch: yep
[16:27] <ericsnow> natefinch: really, I'd expect that we'd be doing exactly the same thing as deploy for this
[16:29] <ericsnow> natefinch: along with an extra step to release the stored resource blob, if necessary
[16:30] <natefinch> ericsnow: well, serverside, I don't think we added anything for deploy about the charmstore at all
[16:30] <natefinch> ericsnow: there's just NewResolvePendingResourcesOps
[16:30] <ericsnow> natefinch: that's what I'm talking about
[16:30] <natefinch> ericsnow: ok, so we're relying on the client to push up the new resource metadata?
[16:31] <ericsnow> natefinch: ah
[16:32] <ericsnow> natefinch: given that we now have --resources (like deploy), we should follow suit
[16:32] <natefinch> ericsnow: ok, that's easy enough (and in fact I've already done that part).  The talk about hooking into the same machinery as resource poller threw me off
[16:33] <natefinch> ericsnow: I'm worried that this will break if you upgrade using the GUI, though
[16:33] <ericsnow> natefinch: yeah, this was before --resources
[16:33] <ericsnow> natefinch: we have the same problem with deploy though, no?
[16:35] <natefinch> ericsnow: then we should fix it for both, right? :)
[16:36] <natefinch> ericsnow: I was thinking of just adding a charmstore.ListResources and Resources.SetCharmStoreResources in the state code that does deploy and upgrade-charm
[16:36] <natefinch> ericsnow: (for charmstore charms)
[16:37] <ericsnow> natefinch: if I recall correctly, for resources we chose to follow the precedent of charm handling for deploy
[16:38] <ericsnow> natefinch: ergo, pull info on client-side
[16:39] <ericsnow> (from charm store)
[16:40] <natefinch> ok.. maybe we can discuss with katherine when she gets back later... we obviously need clientside support for --resources, but it would be nice to also have serverside support for clients that don't do that.
[16:43] <ericsnow> natefinch: k, though I expect we'll punt on it for 2.0 :)
[16:50] <voidspace> frobware: dimitern: note that Jay is out today and the networking hangout is not on (according to the calendar anyway)
[16:51] <frobware> voidspace: ack
[16:52] <voidspace> frobware: I've completed my self review (written it anyway)
[16:52] <voidspace> frobware: would you like to see it and comment before I submit it, or shall I just submit?
[18:34] <natefinch> katco: let ericsnow and I know when you're back. We need to discuss some scope issues around my current task
[19:00] <natefinch> ericsnow: I was going to skip uploading metadata for resources whose revision hasn't changed... but that requires an extra round trip to the charmstore... do you think it's worth it?
[19:01] <ericsnow> natefinch: nope
[19:05] <natefinch> ericsnow: well, good :)
[19:35] <katco> natefinch: ericsnow: o/
[19:36] <natefinch> katco, ericsnow: moonstone?  Just want to clarify some questions
[19:36] <katco> natefinch: sure
[21:31] <katco> natefinch: standup
[21:35] <cmars`> should i be able to bootstrap lxd on xenial now, with juju built from master?
[21:36] <rick_h__> cmars`: Makyo mentioned that he got it running today
[21:36] <Makyo> Wellll.
[21:36] <Makyo> It wiped out my /etc/sudoers and now I can't do anything.
[21:36] <rick_h__> ohhh
[21:37] <cmars`> what?!! that sounds bad. for me, it seems to hang during bootstrap, and i wondered if anyone else had seen it
[21:37] <cmars`> hangs after this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15247197/
[21:37] <rick_h__> rumor is master + lxd stable ppa is supposed to work?
[21:37] <Makyo> cmars`: same problem, then times out after 10 minutes
[21:37] <cmars`> which is weird, i can lxc exec into the container and it's just run cloud-init
[21:37] <cmars`> Makyo: you're more patient than me :)
[21:38] <cmars`> but good to know
[21:38] <cmars`> Makyo: using lxd with zfs?
[21:38] <cmars`> i almost wondered if it was so fast, we hit a race? :)
[21:39] <Makyo> cmars`: ext4
[21:39] <Makyo> + encrypted home
[21:39] <Makyo> Er... whole disk encryped, I guess.
[21:40] <cmars`> Makyo: same here (LVM, ecryptfs), but i'm using the zfs block storage for lxd, just a big file, I think. it really does help -- though i bet it'd be even faster if it was native
[21:42] <cmars`> well, i'm going to open a bug then
[21:42] <Makyo> I'll add my head
[22:02] <rick_h__> cmars`: that sounds like the image problem that serge is working with Tom Barber on in the list
[22:04] <rick_h__> cmars`: have a chance to poke at this ? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2016-February/006699.html
[22:05] <rick_h__> or Makyo it soudns like?
[22:05] <Makyo> Sure
[22:09] <mup> Bug #1551440 opened: Can't bootstrap LXD on Xenial <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551440>
[22:12] <cmars`> rick_h__: yep, i think that explains it
[22:12] <cmars`> thanks
[22:18] <mup> Bug #1551440 changed: Can't bootstrap LXD on Xenial <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551440>
[22:48] <ericsnow> katco: FYI, the new cards are up
[22:48] <katco> ericsnow: tyvm
[23:56] <Makyo> rick_h__: cmars` the problem I ran into with sudoers was due to permissions installing lxd images. Disregard it.


[01:41] <sewardrobert> Hello I installed mythbuntu 16.04. Configured my HD Home Run tuners and schedules direct. However when I use the web interface to search and record a program. I receive this error: !NoTrans: SQL Error: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ') AND program.starttime>='2016-10-17 21:29:56' AND program.endtime<='2016-10-31 ' at
[01:41] <sewardrobert>  line 13 [#1064]!!
[01:42] <sewardrobert> Anyone else have a problem like this?


[08:39] <santa_> good morning
[10:01] <santa_> RikMills: kdepim-runtime has been failing to build in my latest test rebuilds, hotfix available in the _archive branch
[10:02] <RikMills> santa_: ok
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all


[05:27] <poningru> hey guys should I include the xdg-user-dir thingies in the release notes?
[12:38] <juliux> jenda, ping
[12:38] <jenda> juliux: pong
[12:38] <jenda> we just arrived home from a party :)
[12:38] <juliux> jenda, lol
[12:39] <jenda> We went there straight from the airport :)
[12:39] <jenda> So, what's up?
[12:39] <jenda> We'll be going downtown soon.
[12:39] <juliux> i only want to know if every thing is ready for tommorrow
[12:39] <jenda> (Just a quick shower each)
[12:39] <jenda> Yep
[12:39] <jenda> Aha, we have to arrange a meeting.
[12:39] <juliux> feel free to do;)
[12:41] <jenda> Well, I have no idea when we arrive if we hitchhike.
[12:41] <jenda> But if we get the midnight bus, when and where do you want us?
[12:42] <jenda> (If we have to hitchhike, I'll be able to drop a note in the morning before we leave.
[12:42] <juliux> not to early
[12:42] <jenda> )
[12:42] <jenda> Of course :)
[12:42] <juliux> i think between 9 and 10 is a good time
[12:42] <jenda> AM or PM?
[12:42] <jenda> :)
[12:43] <juliux> pm ;)
[12:43] <jenda> ok :)
[12:43] <juliux> i think you can answere this question your self;)
[12:43] <jenda> That'll give us 3 hours of party ;)
[12:43] <jenda> hehe
[12:44] <jenda> juliux: so, do you want us to just turn up at your place? :)
[12:44] <juliux> jenda, yes
[12:44] <jenda> ok
[12:44] <juliux> jenda, if you find the way
[12:44] <jenda> will do
[12:44] <jenda> :)
[12:44] <jenda> will try.
[12:44] <juliux> it is not so difficult
[12:44] <jenda> Google maps ftw ;)
[12:45] <juliux> you only have to follow the tracks on the street
[12:45] <jenda> I'll brb - but could you describe how to find your place when one is on Conertplatz?
[12:45] <juliux> it is number 1, it is exactly at the tram station
[12:46] <juliux> jenda, is the bus coming to the mainstation?
[12:46] <jenda> ok, we'll do our best :)
[12:46] <jenda> yes
[12:46] <jenda> I'll brb
[12:46] <juliux> then you can take a tram or walk
[12:47] <juliux> the tram line 12 has a station called conertplatz
[03:47] <juliux> MenZa, ping
[03:48] <MenZa> juliux: pong
[03:49] <juliux> MenZa, pls give me your post address
[03:49] <juliux> MenZa, for shiping your shirs;)
[03:49] <MenZa> ahh
[03:49] <MenZa> Lasse Havelund
[03:49] <MenZa> Vifdam 61
[03:49] <MenZa> 6000 Kolding
[03:49] <MenZa> DK-Denmark
[03:49] <MenZa> Should do it.
[03:51] <juliux> thxs
[03:51] <juliux> i will send you two black polos in L today
[04:42] <beuno> juliux: hey, did you talk to pitti
[04:42] <beuno> ?
[05:38] <juliux> jenda, no i didnt talked with pitti
[07:58] <juliux> jenda, here are waiting baps and croissant for breakfast;)


[18:10] <habys> hi folks! is anyone able to dynamically assign hostnames to machines setup via pxe with autoinstall? I see some work arounds here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1905932 but I wondered if autoinstaller natively supports this seemingly common situation
[18:11] <habys> oh I didn't realize that bug was still open...
[21:31] <hallyn> hey rbasak - as far as you know, did a uvt-kvm scp command ever get written?  i'm not seeing it...


[08:21] <kc2bez> \O/ release day!
[08:22] <guiverc> yep.  Happy impish day Dan
[08:22] <kc2bez> I still need to add the bluedevil issue to the notes but other than that I think we are good to go.
[08:23] <guiverc> I've not run any (lubu) tests since we last spoke; but I'd spoken to @Leokolb previously and he felt good too.
 And maybe make it clear that Lubuntu provides the Firefox .deb package and not the snap version?
[08:25] <guiverc> I've seen some questions on reddit asking that (not lubuntu specific), but I gather most seem to know it's not flavors  (though few know not Ubuntu either if upgraded pre-beta)
[08:27] <kc2bez> I. an add that we have the .deb next to the Firefox section in the notes. I do mention that it will be supported throughout the cycle.
[08:27] <kc2bez> whoop
[08:27] <kc2bez> *can add
[08:28] <guiverc> :)
[08:30] <kc2bez> I am going to mark us as ready first.
[08:31] <guiverc> :)  seeing 'ready' will make release team happy I bet  (even just the 1st)
[08:31] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Impish Final] has been marked as ready
[08:32] <kc2bez> Studio, Lubuntu and Budgie are all ready now.
[08:43] <kc2bez> Ok, I've made some edits to the notes. I added some information about Firefox and the BlueDevil bug.
[08:47]  * guiverc expected you'd have removed the DRAFT - not doing so; very official !   (I note a heart from fahim; I'm pleased about that!)
[08:48]  * kc2bez waits for the official word :D
[08:48] <guiverc> yep... I gotta wait for ML post for ubuntu_news
 Yes @kc2bez @guiverc - all looks good to me. Well done and thanks to everyone! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> I've not run any (lubu) tests since we last spoke; but I'd spoken to @Leokolb previously and he felt good too.)
[08:48] <kc2bez> Nice to see fahim read the notes, that makes me pleased as well.
[08:50] <guiverc> :)
[08:54]  * guiverc adds I scanned the release notes again (firefox/bluedevil) kc2bez; looks good to me
[08:55] <kc2bez> Thanks guiverc
 omg I love the new wallpaper!
 It is pretty great. (re @The_LoudSpeaker: omg I love the new wallpaper!)
 @teward001 I am having some issues logging into WordPress right now.
 nvm @teward001 I am back in.
 oh ddang it is release day dang I thought it would be another week oops misssed paying attion
 I'm glad I didn't miss 😂
 https://lubuntu.me/impish-released/
 Phew last minute release stuff went quite smoothly
[18:26] <kc2bez> \o/ Thanks everyone for all your work on this release! We couldn't pull it off without everyone's effort. I appreciate all of you.
 @guiverc @Leokolb have you tested upgrades? I'm getting reports  that upgrading is removing the firefox deb. I'd like to get some more info and seeing if it's just something specific to UM.
 @franksmcb It looks like @Leokolb last did a upgrade on the 12th. https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/
 I can run a test to see what happens.
 Thanks Dan
 @franksmcb  still a .deb here after the upgrade. : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/47e0bab8/file_3449.jpg
 Thanks Dan. Much appreciated
 Sure thing, anytime.
[20:00] <guiverc> @Leokolb did numerous upgrades (maybe 4+ times) but sorry I have no details
 It went super smooth for me.
[20:00] <guiverc> i was just reading; thanks kc2bez
 Of course it was a fresh install of hirsute.
 10-4
 Just saw the discussion..yes numerous upgrades no problems (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> @Leokolb did numerous upgrades (maybe 4+ times) but sorry I have no details)
 always fresh installs of hirsute
 Thanks @Leokolb
 Thanks @guiverc and @Leokolb
 Thanks @franksmcb (re @franksmcb: Thanks @guiverc and @Leokolb)
 For closure on this. I just installed hirsute, updated then upgraded to impish and my results mirror yours. Firefox remains a .deb. Thanks again!
 👍 (re @franksmcb: For closure on this. I just installed hirsute, updated then upgraded to impish and my results mirror yours. Firefox remains a .deb. Thanks again!)


[06:57] <markus-k> I'm currently playing with artful, and since the last upgrade this morning I can't login anymore. Are there any known problems with this at the moment?
[06:58] <markus-k> I also reinstalled the vbox guest additions before rebooting, could be a problem too maybe
[06:59] <markus-k> There is something in the syslogs "accounts-service-access.vala:218: unable to sync volume ... to AccountsService : GDBus.Error:....


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[23:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2892 Failed to build (artful/nux, artful/unity). Successfully built (artful/compiz, artful/indicator-datetime, artful/indicator-sound)