[00:00] <herrow> im really new to ubuntu, i just got it two days ago so im sorry i dont know much.
[00:00] <EagleScreen> joshjtl: I dont know, look for it in kde-apps web
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> herrow- how did you manage to delete your account?
[00:01] <EagleScreen> herrow do you know what is sudo?
[00:01] <EagleScreen> !sudo | herrow
[00:02] <EagleScreen> use Kuser application in Applications -> System to create users and add it to admin group if you want
[00:03] <Dragnslcr> Except you have to be a superuser to do that
[00:03] <herrow> see, i bought two computers and my sister logged in on mine before i got to it. so i tried changing the initial user and created mine and deleted the initial user and took admin settings off. but i guess mine never got created andd i only deleted the admin
[00:03] <Dragnslcr> That'll do it
[00:04] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, never delete the old user until you're sure that the new user is working correctly
[00:04] <herrow> yep, learned that the hard way. So, i think ill just have to reinstall the operting system, right?
[00:06] <Dragnslcr> That's all I can think of, unless you want to try to find some security exploit that you can use
[00:06] <demmon> damn i cant install .deb they are cruching all the time
[00:07] <demmon> dont know what to do
[00:08] <EagleScreen> herrow you dont need to reinstall
[00:08] <EagleScreen> you only need root access
[00:08] <EagleScreen> and create a user for your sister and another one for you
[00:08] <Dragnslcr> Except the only user in the admin group got deleted
[00:09] <EagleScreen> it can become root if its grub has password in blank (no password)
[00:09] <Dragnslcr> Oh yeah, you can boot into single-user mode
[00:09] <EagleScreen> yes
[00:10] <Dragnslcr> I keep forgetting about Ubuntu's recovery mode
[00:10] <EagleScreen> he can try it, may be he will access in root mode
[00:10] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, that'll work fine
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> Blah, sorry about that. Forgot about single-user mode
[00:11] <EagleScreen> then he can set root password by command 'passwd'
[00:11] <EagleScreen> and become root in a normal session
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> Well, I wouldn't do that
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> herrow- are you on that computer right now?
[00:12] <EagleScreen> I think herrow is watching TV lol
[00:12] <herrow> ah im sorry! hahaa yeah. im on this computer
[00:12] <herrow> and im a she, :P
[00:13] <joshjtl> anyone know what msgfmt is?
[00:13] <Dragnslcr> And that's why I never use pronouns
[00:13] <Dragnslcr> herrow- do you have another computer with Internet access?
[00:13] <boboso> how do i find out what driver ubuntu is using to make my network card work?
[00:13] <herrow> its alright! yep, i have another ubuntu right next to me
[00:14] <EagleScreen> boboso:  are you talking about wireless card?
[00:14] <joshjtl> nevermind found it
[00:14] <Dragnslcr> herrow- probably easier to get onto IRC from there, then we can walk you through adding a new user from the shell
[00:14] <boboso> EagleScreen: no my wired nic
[00:15] <EagleScreen> boboso: did you check jockey application?
[00:15] <EagleScreen> I mena Restricted drivers or Hardware drivers application
[00:15] <EagleScreen> it os only to know if it is a rectricted driver
[00:15] <boboso> EagleScreen: no i didnt not sure what that is
[00:15] <EagleScreen> it is important
[00:15] <Freddy2> hi
[00:16] <EagleScreen> boboso: whar Kubuntu version are u using?
[00:16] <boboso> 8.10
[00:16] <EagleScreen> then run Aplications -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[00:16] <herrow1> okay, im on the other computer
[00:16] <EagleScreen> and check if your card is using a restricted driver
[00:16] <Freddy2> which dvd-burner will be included in jaunty? k3b?
[00:17] <EagleScreen> herrow1: reboot into recovery mode
[00:17] <Freddy2> afaik it hasn't been ported to kde4, so..
[00:17] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- reboot the computer, and when you get to the grub menu, select the recovery mode option
[00:17] <Dragnslcr> Freddy2- I think k3b worked fine for me the last time I tried it
[00:18] <boboso> EagleScreen: ok it says nvidia driver version 177
[00:18] <EagleScreen> anything else?
[00:18] <Freddy2> hmm then all qt3/dcop/.. stuff is also included? even amarok1?
[00:18] <Dragnslcr> Freddy2- yeah, KDE3 programs run fine in KDE4
[00:19] <EagleScreen> k3b (KDE3 version) and amarok 2 (kde4 version)
[00:19] <boboso> EagleScreen: just says i need the driver for desktop effects and stuff like that
[00:19] <EagleScreen> that is the driver of your graphics card
[00:19] <EagleScreen> not network
[00:20] <boboso> i know
[00:20] <Dragnslcr> boboso- a wired network adapter can usually just use the generic drivers
[00:20] <boboso> but i dont see anything for network
[00:20] <EagleScreen> do you want to use that card in other GNU/Linux distribution?
[00:21] <boboso> yes i have the same mobo on another box and when i do an ifconfig i only see the lo interface so i am trying to get my network card installed
[00:21] <herrow1> is it normal for the screen to say MBR 2FA: and its said that for about 2 min now
[00:21] <demmon> help my kubuntu is broken i cant install .deb
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- after you selected the recovery mode?
[00:22] <EagleScreen> demmon try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[00:22] <herrow1> no i havent even gotten to that menu yet
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- hm, that's probably not good
[00:22] <EagleScreen> herrow1:  reboot again your conputer may hang
[00:23] <herrow1> how do i do that? since its not letting me to anytthing.
[00:23] <boboso> EagleScreen: my thinking was that since kubuntu got my nic working out of the box i could find out what i need to make the other box work
[00:23] <EagleScreen> boboso:  if your card not use restricted drivers, other distributions probably has also the driver
[00:24] <EagleScreen> boboso: do you have a cofoguration problem or a driver problem?
[00:24] <boboso> not sure
[00:24] <boboso> i guess a driver problem since i only see the lo interface but im nto sure
[00:24] <demmon> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) EagleScreen
[00:24] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- ctrl-alt-del or press the reset button on the computer
[00:25] <EagleScreen> which is the other distribution boboso?
[00:25] <Dragnslcr> boboso- what about ifconfig -a?
[00:25] <EagleScreen> boboso: where are you looking for your net interface?
[00:25] <Pollywog> I installed Jaunty and Gnome works but KDE stalls and never really appears
[00:26] <Pollywog> I have both desktops installed, kubuntu and the ubuntu desktop
[00:26] <EagleScreen> Pollywog: bad user configuration files may cause that problem
[00:26] <Pollywog> EagleScreen: same result after I removed ~/.kde
[00:27] <boboso> Dragnslcr:  ifconfig -a shows my eth0 but it has no ip to it so maybe i just need to config dhcp
[00:27] <EagleScreen> Pollywog: did you test it with other user?
[00:27] <Pollywog> EagleScreen: ty I will make another user
[00:27] <Dragnslcr> boboso- yeah, you just need to configure it
[00:28] <herrow1> alright, so the first screen said 2 for setup, right. and 0 for boot.. i pressed 0 and it didnt do anyrhing, just continued with the log in screeen. so instead i pressed 2 for setup. is that wrong?
[00:28] <demmon> damn i forgot the command gedit it was
[00:28] <EagleScreen> demmon: paste us your error in pastebin please
[00:28] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- is this a computer that you bought with Ubuntu installed on it?
[00:28] <herrow1> yeahh
[00:29] <votaguz> #kubuntu-es
[00:29] <EagleScreen> herrow1: that screen is strange for us
[00:29] <herrow1> theres an option that says network boot?
[00:29] <GiantTalkingCow> Pardon me, do any of you know the last available version of Kubuntu that used the KDE 3.x branch?
[00:29] <EagleScreen> did you choose Ubuntu Recovery mode?
[00:29] <demmon> EagleScreen: http://pastebin.com/m45e2642c
[00:30] <EagleScreen> herrow1: you may be wrong and going to BIOS or boot menu?
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- it probably has a grub delay set to 0. Try the instructions in the 5th post here- http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024680.html
[00:30] <demmon> EagleScreen: and its the same errror with everything every .deb file i try to install
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> GiantTalkingCow- 8.04
[00:31] <GiantTalkingCow> Dragnslcr: Thanks a lot.
[00:32] <juacom99> que puede ser este error: XSession: unable to start xsession ---no "/home/joaquin/.xsession" file, no "/home/joaquin/.Xsession" file, no session managers, no windows managers and no terminal emulators found; aborting
[00:32] <EagleScreen> demmon: where did you find package virtualbox-2.1_2.1.4-42893_Ubuntu_hardy_i386.deb is it from Ubuntu official repository?
[00:32] <juacom99> lo obtube despues de seguir los pasos de http://www.kubuntu.org/ para instalar kde 4.2
[00:33] <Dragnslcr> !es | juacom99
[00:33] <juacom99> sorry
[00:33] <herrow1> im at boot menu, and theres options "+hard drive' "removable devices" "netwoorkl boot" and "diagnostics"
[00:33] <EagleScreen> demmon: you have a package conflict
[00:33] <herrow1> and enter setup
[00:34] <EagleScreen> herrow1: we weren't talikng about that menu
[00:34] <EagleScreen> we mean grub menuç
[00:34] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- did you enter the BIOS menu?
[00:35] <EagleScreen> demmon: you will need to uninstall one or two packages that cannot be installed at same time, it is an Ubuntu bug, dependences are wrong in one of these packages
[00:37] <EagleScreen> demmon: packages: virtualbox-2.1_2.1.4-42893_Ubuntu_hardy_i386.deb and virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.24-23-generic are in conflict, remove both of then and later install one of them
[00:37] <demmon> EagleScreen: its kewl i just installed the gedit and add the source and now no problem
[00:37] <EagleScreen> ok
[00:38] <demmon> who gives the names of the new versions :)
[00:39] <demmon> what is jaunty
[00:40] <rgarcia> does any
[00:41] <EagleScreen> Jaunty Jackalope
[00:41] <EagleScreen> it is a kind of rabbit
[00:42] <claydoh> a mythical rabbit-antelope cross :)
[00:45] <herrow1> i think ive dug myself pretty deep, because it
[00:45] <herrow1> is not giving me GRUB or anything
[00:47] <EagleScreen> herrow1: you may have to press Esc key to grub menu can appears
[00:47] <EagleScreen> during boot
[00:48] <herrow1> it shows me a screen for about a second and then changes and continues the boot
[00:48] <EagleScreen> herrow1: is ubuntu the unique OS in this computer?
[00:49] <herrow1> yes, i have a mini 9 dell
[00:49] <joshjtl> hey folks how do I use apt to search for installed packages that have "word" in it?
[00:50] <EagleScreen> herrow1: press Esc key during that small time interval
[00:50] <herrow1> i have a recovery media CD, can i just use that?
[00:50] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- probably have to keep pressing Esc really fast to try to get it to give you the grub menu
[00:51] <EagleScreen> try it first herrow1
[00:52] <herrow1> i got to the screen that sys "MBR 2FA" should i press enter and esc one after another repeatedly?
[00:53] <joshjtl> can I set different wallpapers per desktop kde4?
[00:54] <EagleScreen> herrow1: you can use your Live CD but be patient
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> herrow1- worth a shot
[01:08] <herrow1> ok, i feel like im making this worse. i'll probably ask someone to help me out personally.. but thank you all so much for the help!
[01:19] <skarn> I have found a bug in kubuntu jaunty beta, reported it, but it got lost because of an update
[01:20] <skarn> now, apport won't generate another bug report
[01:23] <EagleScreen> skarn wait a second
[01:24] <EagleScreen> skarn: look into /var/crash
[01:24] <skarn> yes
[01:25] <skarn> wow, RMB -> report a problem, cool! thanks a lot
[01:26]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[01:39] <g_> Anyone know the best virtual mmmmmachien for linux so far?
[01:39] <g_> machine**
[01:39] <tess_84> i tried to restart my laptop this morning after updates and now it wont go past the setup right at the beginning, can anyone pls help me?
[01:40] <fosco__> !best
[01:42] <skarn> thanks EagleScreen, bug reported correctly,
[01:42] <g_> which is the most developed and probably the better suited virtual machine for people who like to test out different distrobutions of linux?
[01:42] <g_> with the lowest hardware footprint
[01:42] <g_> ?
[01:46] <g_> what no b/s half assed smart ass commands for answer to those questions?
[01:46] <EagleScreen> well done skarn
[01:47] <skarn> g_ i use virtualbox, and think it' probably the easiest one,
[01:48] <skarn> but I guess it depends on what you mean by "low hardware fottprint"
[01:48] <g_> something that a newer but not gaming laptop could handle
[01:48] <kingbilly> tess_84 the other day i had to press my ctrl or alt keys otherwise it never continued past the first 8-15 seconds, give a try
[01:49] <kingbilly> g_ i use virtualbox
[01:49] <kingbilly> and i have a low end laptop
[01:49] <kingbilly> windows 7, windows xp, and linux_mint kde beta all worked really well
[01:49] <skarn> g_ i have a one year old 650€ dell laptop, and elive almos flies in virtualbox :)
[01:49] <kingbilly> barely any lag
[01:50] <skarn> just try to use only OSes built for your architechture
[01:50] <tess_84> kingbilly  thanks for that will try itow
[01:50] <skarn> no win7 64bit on a 32bit kubuntu
[01:50] <kingbilly> i was even able to play age of empires II surprisingly smooth, but like skarn says without definine "low hardware footprint"...
[01:51] <g_> virtualbox is sun's software right?
[01:51] <kingbilly> at least 2 of us had good results
[01:51] <kingbilly> yeah
[01:51] <skarn> virtualbox Open Souce Edition is in the repos
[01:51] <g_> oh ok
[01:51] <g_> does it boot up into its own environment?
[01:51] <skarn> there is a proprietary version, with barely any difference
[01:52] <skarn> no, it runs in a window, but can be maximised, i said it was really easy
[01:53] <g_> is xen any good?
[01:53] <g_> or kvm?
[01:53] <ryan_> #ubuntu
[01:55] <tess_84> kingbilly that wont work for me.  it gets as far as auto detecting usb mass storage devices and wont go any  further. is that as far as it went for u?
[01:55] <kingbilly> tess_84 do you have any usb devices plugged in?
[01:56] <kingbilly> i have to unplug my external soundcard just to boot
[01:56] <tess_84> no i dont
[01:57] <kingbilly> does this occur before the grub?
[01:58] <tess_84> sorry, i have no idea what the grub is.  i generally leave all this to my huband but he i away atm
[02:00] <kingbilly> okay well it is possible you may have to go into the bios and disable "boot from usb"
[02:00] <tess_84> ok thanks
[02:00] <kingbilly> good luck
[02:21] <skarn> g_: xen and kvm, afaik, are more performant, but more complicated
[02:21] <skarn> i'd not suggest them if you just want to "try out stuff"
[02:49] <christ_> hi
[02:50] <Trotsky> hi?
[02:51] <christ_> In KDE 4.2 I want to install compiz but it wants to install some gnome stuff, so I have tryd with compiz-kde, but there comes a error saying that compiz-kde depends on libplasma2, and this conflicts with libplasma3
[02:51] <christ_> How can I fix that so I can use compiz?
[02:52] <Trotsky> I have not had this problem installing it here, moreover, who needs compiz if you have KDE4? he has the best features of compiz integrated
[02:53] <Sagaci> is plasma the default desktop manager, because i'm having troubles with it at the moment
[02:53] <christ_> Trotsky: for me using Kwin with opengl acel I have some performance problems, I like more compiz :)
[03:01] <Sagaci> how do you check what version of kde you're running
[03:02] <EagleScreen> run a KDE application
[03:02] <EagleScreen> and go to Help -> About KDE
[03:11] <frogonwheels> Sagaci: just be aware, that it (apparently) shows you the version of the libs it was built against - not which version you are running.
[03:11] <Sagaci> thx
[03:11] <frogonwheels> Sagaci: when I do about on Konversation i t show 3.5.10  but on   'Konqueror' it shows 4.2.2
[03:12] <Sagaci> i'm having troubles putting icons on the desktop
[03:13] <BlackBsd> i tried spoffing konqueror with mozilla firefox 2.x so i can go to gmail.com and its not working..  is there something else i have to do?
[03:17] <[noobie]> BlackBsd: I know to get most browsers using Gecko you need xulrunner
[03:18] <[noobie]> its how epiphany in gnome works, perhaps konqueror uses it too.
[03:27] <thumper> anyone know why Amarok2 doesn't use the volume from KMix ?
[03:31] <frogonwheels> thumper: eh? how can it not?  do you mean 'Master' or 'PCM'
[03:32] <thumper> frogonwheels: I mean that when I use my multimedia volume up and down keys, the volume goes up and down, but amarok's volume doesn't
[03:33] <frogonwheels> thumper: .. ah.. on mine that appears to be attached to the <pcm> slider. possibly that's the answer?
[03:34] <thumper> frogonwheels: yes, the PCM control controls my volume
[03:34] <thumper> frogonwheels: at least it used to
[03:34]  * thumper pokes kmix
[03:34] <frogonwheels> check it out. :)
[03:36] <frogonwheels> :) I have a master volume on my speakers that sits on my physical desktop - so I very rarely use software volume controls
[03:36] <thumper> frogonwheels: where do I configure the main KMix channel?
[03:36] <thumper> I remember doing it once before
[03:37] <frogonwheels> at a guess in the keyboard setup.
[03:37] <BlackBsd> for some reasons i cannot get results using adept that i can with synaptic??
[03:37]  * frogonwheels uses aptitude :)
[03:38] <holyscott> Can someone help me with setting up samba in kubuntu jaunty 9.04 beta
[03:39] <jimmy_> hi all
[03:39] <frogonwheels> thumper: Keyboard & Mouse - 'Global Keyboard Shortcuts'
[03:39] <jimmy_> are their any good games for ubuntu?
[03:40] <frogonwheels> What I want to know is how you can seperate the Volume control from USB keyboard  vs Volume control from usb headphones!
[03:40] <thumper> frogonwheels: nah, I mean on the kmix tray icon it still shows PCM, and I want it to show Master, but I can't find the config
[03:41] <thumper> frogonwheels: nm
[03:41] <frogonwheels> thumper: settings | configure channels!
[03:41] <thumper> frogonwheels: that doesn't select the master channel, and that is where I was looking
[03:42] <thumper> frogonwheels: the only way to specify it is to right click on the tray icon
[03:42] <thumper> frogonwheels: I assumed that it would be in the general config somewhere
[03:42] <thumper> frogonwheels: but it isn't
[03:42] <thumper> frogonwheels: however, it is now working, thanks for your help
[03:42] <frogonwheels> under bindings for kmix, you can map the Volume Up and Volume down  to specific inputs.
[03:43] <frogonwheels> (under the 'control pannel' keyboard & mouse - System settings.. global keyboard shortcuts.
[03:43] <thumper> frogonwheels: yes, I have the multimedia keys linked to kmix volume up and down
[03:43] <thumper> frogonwheels: the problem was it was only doing the pcm channel, not master
[03:46] <frogonwheels> yes.
[03:46] <frogonwheels> that appears to be the default.
[03:48] <holyscott> can someone help me w/ getting samba started, or some type of control panel in kubuntu 9.04 jaunty beta
[03:50] <holyscott> how do I start samba?
[03:50] <beatzz> how do you change your computers name?
[03:51] <beatzz> for example beatzz@comp_name/~:
[03:51] <frogonwheels> beatzz:  hostname
[03:51] <beatzz> in konsole?
[03:51] <beatzz> hostname new_hostname
[03:51] <beatzz> ?
[03:51] <frogonwheels> yep. there might be a gui version of that.
[03:52] <beatzz> wow and to think i was gana just redo my whole harddrive
[03:52] <beatzz> :x
[03:54] <beatzz> well, it worked, thanks
[03:54] <beatzz> :)
[03:54] <frogonwheels> np.  just check /etc/hostname to make sure that is changed
[03:58]  * Secutor is back.
[04:10] <holyscott> in my packagekit, do I want to be getting the samba items, or samba4? for basic linux to linux file sharing (for Jaunty Ku 9.04 Beta)
[04:41] <Firefishe> What's the CLI command for the listing of device hardware?
[04:44] <Trotsky> Firefishe: sudo lshw
[04:44] <Trotsky> ?
[04:47] <Firefishe> thanks, Trotsky
[04:50] <Firefishe> I just installed kubuntu 8.10.  When kdm comes up, I have no mouse or keyboard recognition (USB mouse/keyboard), but I do in the virtual terminals (hence this irssi session).  I've tried using a usb-to-ps2 port adapter, but that doesn't work.
[05:05] <ruben23> hi anyone tried kubuntu on acer e machine EL1700
[05:06] <doleyb> ruben23: Yeah, it works, but the thing to worry about is the wireless networker.
[05:06] <Firefishe> My logs indicate that HAL is failing to start upon boot.  Would this prevent x from recognizing keyboard and mouse input?
[05:07] <ruben23> doleyb:i tied it with ubuntu...why theres an error on startup..
[05:08] <ruben23> it says ata2:00: status drdy then I/O error;
[05:19] <ray_> is this the only chatroom
[05:19] <doleyb> ray_: there is #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 and #kde and many more
[05:34] <SuspectZero> i installed ubuntu with a /boot on /dev/sda10. then i installed windows 7 and i lost grub. when i booted into live ubuntu and tried grub-install /dev/sda i got an error saying /boot was not found. i tried making /dev/sda10 bootable but i got the "operating system not found" error. any ideas?
[05:36] <dsmith_> SuspectZero: win7 (AKA vista) rewote your MBR
[05:36] <dsmith_> use neogrub
[05:36] <SuspectZero> yes i know it rewrote it. wht if i want to just reinstall regular grub?
[05:36] <dsmith_> neogrub
[05:36] <dsmith_> I just told you
[05:38] <SuspectZero> ah i see
[05:38] <SuspectZero> ty
[05:39] <dsmith_> welcome :)
[05:57] <rgarcia> hi, does anybody know how do i instal jre6 for 64-b arch?
[05:59] <rgarcia> anybody??
[06:01] <rgarcia> please, somebody help me
[06:01] <doleyb> rgarcia: try #ubuntu maybe
[06:13] <corey> hey guys, i installed kubuntu 9.04 beta, and found that there is no pulse audio installed by default, so i installed it via apt-get and autostart it with the command pulseaudio -d, but it doesnt seem to work, it still uses normal alsa
[06:14] <corey> so i'm wondering how to get pulse audio to work in kde4 in general
[06:19] <rgg> does anybody know do i fix an interrupted instalation?
[06:20] <dennister> that depends on which method u used to install, and at what stage it was interrupted
[06:20] <rgg> sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:20] <rgg> apt-get
[06:21] <rgg> now i can't remove the packages or install it again
[06:21] <dennister> try this: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:21] <rgg> only this?
[06:21] <dennister> yep, let's see what the result is
[06:22] <rgg> :~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[06:22] <rgg> Reading package lists... Done
[06:22] <rgg> Building dependency tree
[06:22] <rgg> Reading state information... Done
[06:22] <rgg> Correcting dependencies... Done
[06:22] <rgg> The following extra packages will be installed:
[06:22] <rgg>   sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[06:22] <rgg> Suggested packages:
[06:22] <rgg>   binfmt-support sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-plugin ia32-sun-java6-plugin
[06:22] <rgg> Recommended packages:
[06:22] <rgg>   gsfonts-x11
[06:22] <frogonwheels> rgg: pastebin please!
[06:23] <rgg> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[06:23] <rgg>   sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[06:23] <dennister> rgg: stop
[06:23] <rgg> 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:23] <rgg> Need to get 0B/30.4MB of archives.
[06:23] <dennister> just let it do its stuff
[06:23] <rgg> After this operation, 86.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
[06:23] <rgg> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[06:23] <dennister> don't copy everything, pls!
[06:23] <rgg> Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:23] <rgg> Selecting previously deselected package sun-java6-jre.
[06:23] <rgg> (Reading database ... 92011 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:23] <rgg> Unpacking sun-java6-jre (from .../sun-java6-jre_6-07-3ubuntu2_all.deb) ...
[06:23] <rgg> sun-dlj-v1-1 license has already been accepted
[06:23] <rgg> Selecting previously deselected package sun-java6-bin.
[06:23] <rgg> Unpacking sun-java6-bin (from .../sun-java6-bin_6-07-3ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
[06:23] <dennister> STOP!
[06:24] <rgg> sun-dlj-v1-1 license has already been accepted
[06:24] <rgg> Setting up sun-java6-jre (6-07-3ubuntu2) ...
[06:24] <rgg> Setting up sun-java6-bin (6-07-3ubuntu2) ...
[06:24] <rgg> i guess it works
[06:24] <rgg> what does -f mean?
[06:24] <rgg> sorry..how do i do this...??
[06:24] <rgg> how do i paste .bin?
[06:24] <rgg> i'm new here...
[06:24] <rgg> okay
[06:24] <frogonwheels> !pastebin
[06:24] <dennister> -f means fix
[06:24] <rgg> mm right..so its okay now?
[06:25] <dennister> should be...when you get your $ prompt back it's done and you should be fine
[06:25] <rgg> hmmm okay..thanks a lot;...
[06:25] <dennister> rgg
[06:25] <dennister> next time someone wants to help you, please do not flood this channel
[06:26] <aga> has anyone any idea why fdisk cannot open /dev/sda?
[06:26] <rgg> okay..i'm really really sorry
[06:26] <aga> or /dev/hda
[06:26] <dennister> usually we just need the last line or an error message pasted here
[06:26] <frogonwheels> aga: either it doesn't exist, or you didn't use sudo ?
[06:26] <rgg> ok...i'll do
[06:26] <dennister> did you take a look at the url for pastebin?
[06:26] <aga> i did use sudo, and it exists,.. just says unble to open device
[06:27] <frogonwheels> aga: check /var/log/kern.log ?
[06:27] <aga> sec
[06:27] <dennister> if you have lots of lines that you want helpers here to see, paste them into pastebin, and then only paste the url for your completed pastebin here
[06:28] <aga> last entries are fromyesterday evening frogonwheels
[06:28] <rgg> yes...i saw..but i didn't know thaat yet
[06:28] <rgg> by the way thanks a lot...
[06:28] <dennister> yes, using pastebin and this support channel is new to newbies, but important skill to learn
[06:29] <frogonwheels> aga: hmm..  is anything from either of those disks mounted? (not that it should matter)
[06:29] <dennister> rgg: do you understand? flooding this channel with tons of lines can get you kicked out :-)
[06:29] <rgg> yes i agree w/ you
[06:29] <aga> it is the main device frogonwheels  i need to make a partition from some unallocated space
[06:29] <rgg> okay..understood
[06:30] <dennister> wonderful...so you learned 2 things tonight
[06:30] <aga> i could use gparted but i like to use fdisk cause it's faster
[06:30] <BrrInAlaska> hi
[06:30] <rgg> yep lol
[06:30] <aga> when i write sudo fdisk /dev/hda says unable to open device and i am starting to wonder why
[06:30] <frogonwheels> aga and gparted opens it?
[06:30] <aga> dunno sec
[06:31] <frogonwheels> aga:  is it in the  fdisk -l    list ?
[06:32] <aga> nope, the first is /dev/sda1 but that's just the first partition
[06:32] <aga> it has never appeared i just need to open the whole device
[06:33] <rgg> dennister: do you know why when i'm whatching videos on youtube, if i maximize it it runs slowly...but when i whatch videos w/ kaffeine for exemple it's okay?
[06:33] <aga> argh
[06:34] <aga> how to unlock apt? i had a little issue...
[06:36] <dennister> rgg: no i don't I'm afraid...could be a number of things
[06:36] <dennister> aga: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:37] <aga> another process is using it
[06:37] <aga> but i cannot kill it dennister
[06:37] <rgg> flash player can be?
[06:37] <dennister> aga: do you have adept, synaptic, or update manager running? if you do, close it
[06:37] <aga> nope nothing
[06:38] <aga> there is an apt-get process when i go to top but i cannot kill it
[06:38] <dennister> aga: i know it's the lazy-winblows way, but rebooting would probably take care of it
[06:39] <aga> yeah was thinking about it
[06:39] <aga> brb
[06:40] <dennister> rgg: why is it important for you to have a youtube video maximized?
[06:41] <dennister> i mean, i download some youtube videos to my hard drive, but find that if I maximize them they lose most of their video quality anyway
[06:41] <rgg> no..i don't just a doubt...
[06:42] <ForgeAus> hey all still having trouble with apt-get
[06:43] <ForgeAus> how do I get it to do what I want it to do instead of what it wants to do first?
[06:43] <dennister> ForgeAus: if you're having a prob with apt-get, wouldn't you want to fix it first, before moving on?
[06:44] <|ikeNoOther> hi :)
[06:44] <ForgeAus> dennister, apt-get itself is working, its packages that are the problem...
[06:44] <simmons> HEY WHATS UP BABY
[06:44] <simmons> O SHI- WRONG CHAT
[06:44] <Firefishe> I just installed 8.10, and am having problems with my x session recognizing my mouse and keyboard (both usb).  I'm also getting a startup error indicating that hal isn't starting, and a warning to check that dbus is running.  dbus error references a file: /var/lib/machine-id, and says it should be a UUID string of some type instead of 0.
[06:44] <simmons> NO CYBERZ TODAY, LOLZ
[06:45] <ForgeAus> as in if I type apt-get remove kpresenter-data it won't let me...
[06:45] <|ikeNoOther> how can I have the graficall kubuntu loading bar back? (I mean when my computer boots to kubuntu)
[06:45] <frozenbacon> anyone know how I can get my 360 to work with ubuntu
[06:45] <|ikeNoOther> graphical* :D
[06:45] <ForgeAus> because there is an unmet dependancy for koffice (kpresenter-kde4)
[06:45] <frozenbacon> it won't find my computer, Im sure I'm just missing something stupid
[06:45] <ForgeAus> frozen good question, I have no clue
[06:46] <ForgeAus> frozen I guess 360 uses samba
[06:46] <dennister> ForgeAus: try: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:46] <ForgeAus> try to look for it with a samba client?...
[06:46] <dennister> that might just take care of the dependency problem
[06:46] <ForgeAus> dennister, then it tries to install kpresenter-kde4 which doesn't work
[06:47] <ForgeAus> because I need to remove kpresenter-data for that to work (since theres a file in it it says its overwriting - nothing more integral than a pixmap, but it trips up the package for some reason)
[06:47] <ForgeAus> I tried even manually deleting the file but it didn't help
[06:47] <dennister> it's probably in your cache, so let's try to clear the cache
[06:47] <ForgeAus> if apt-get would just listen to me when I said apt-get remove kpresenter-data it might have worked
[06:47] <ForgeAus> uh, ok clear the cache? apt-get clean first?
[06:48] <ForgeAus> what cache are you talking about exactly?
[06:49] <ForgeAus> (package cache in apt as in /var/cache/apt where it copies the .deb's too?)
[06:49] <ForgeAus> or some other cache?
[06:49] <dennister> well, apt has a cache of programs  it's installed or trying to install...yes
[06:49] <ForgeAus> yeah well thats not going to help
[06:49] <ForgeAus> the downloads aren't corrupt or anything
[06:50] <dennister> in terminal, type or paste: sudo ls /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[06:50] <ForgeAus> nothing in partial
[06:50] <dennister> does it come back with a list of files?
[06:50] <ForgeAus> there are archives to install .deb packages but they're all complete
[06:51] <dennister> ok...i'm a bit too rusty with this technique of fixing dependency probs...hold on
[06:51] <ForgeAus> if I apt-get clean it will remove them but I have to re-download them anyway, and I'll be back to where I am now, so theres no point
[06:51] <ForgeAus> (other than wasting some bandwidth)
[06:51] <alba_> hmhmm gparted won't open either
[06:51] <alba_> this is so weird
[06:51] <ForgeAus> alba/aga, maybe try qtparted?
[06:52] <aga> i think there's something wrong with the partition table, fdisk cannot access the device
[06:52] <dennister> ForgeAus: I'm afraid I'm not the best helper/support person in the world...surprised there aren't more senior people active in the channel tonight
[06:52] <ForgeAus> aga try something like acronis disk director (I think its a dos program tho)
[06:53] <ForgeAus> it has an inbuilt XP-like gui...
[06:53] <aga> i will need to reinstall everything later today probably
[06:53] <ForgeAus> dennister, its ok your doing fine for the basics...
[06:53] <aga> i had an issue yeseterday
[06:53] <rgarcia> pls i need help w/ audio device...
[06:54] <rgarcia> used to work bu now no sound
[06:54] <ForgeAus> hmmm I think I have an idea.. whati f I apt-get remove koffice ? the package itst rying to  meet the dependency of?
[06:54] <aga> oook qtparted working fine
[06:54] <dennister> yeah, thanks, but the basics is what i remember off the top of my head; haven't had a problem like yours in a long time, so I can't remember the fix
[06:55] <dennister> ForgeAus: that's a good idea
[06:55] <ForgeAus> aga, gparted is more ubuntu than kubuntu (being a gnome program)
[06:55] <aga> i know... i was trying to use fdisk but for some reason it wont let me access the device
[06:55] <aga> go figures
[06:56] <dennister> hmmm: basic ubuntu 8.04 installation from livecd only took 48 minutes :)
[06:56] <rgarcia> does anybody can help me on this?
[06:56] <dennister> and that's *with* me using the manual method of partitioning
[06:57] <dennister> too late
[06:57] <aga> ok it worked this time
[06:58] <dennister> brb
[07:00] <ForgeAus> dennister, don't you just hate a good catch22?
[07:06] <cleme> hola
[07:07] <ForgeAus> awesome aga, :)
[07:07] <cleme> hay alguien
[07:08] <ForgeAus> ahh fixed it
[07:08] <ForgeAus> removing koffice-kde4 did it
[07:08] <ForgeAus> now I have to reinstall koffice-kde4 lol
[07:09] <aga> i dunno what is the problem with fdisk
[07:09] <aga> after a reboot it got into the deviceno problems
[07:09] <ForgeAus> now how to run adept updater?
[07:09] <aga> wouldnt sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade do the trick ForgeAus?
[07:10] <ForgeAus> possibly
[07:10] <ForgeAus> I'd rather use the GUI but I don't know how to run it without the system tray icon
[07:11] <ForgeAus> I can run the installer from the menu... hmm... lets see if that does it
[07:12] <dennister> ForgeAus: is there a reason why you prefer koffice to open office?
[07:12] <ForgeAus> dennister, prefer? no... I have both
[07:12] <ForgeAus> mostly I'm just following koffice's progress, rather than using it so much
[07:12] <dennister> well, if koffice gave you a problem, I wouldn't try to install it again unless I needed it for some reason
[07:13] <dennister> one office program is usually enough for me
[07:13] <ForgeAus> hehe one is enough for me too, but I already had koffice...
[07:13] <ForgeAus> it was just a problem in upgrading it to the kde4 version
[07:13] <ForgeAus> (one of my old kde3 packages messed with it)
[07:14] <dennister> ahhh...yes, I tend to stay away from kde4 for my users
[07:14] <ForgeAus> dennister, yeah well I'm using kde4 as my primary wm (since I didn't really have the choice to keep kde3 in intrepid)
[07:14] <dennister> they're usually total newbies, so are more comfortable with the kde 3.5's similarity to winblows
[07:14] <dennister> ah, yes, intrepid...no kde 3.5
[07:14] <ForgeAus> kde3.5.x is my preferred desktop too... still..
[07:15] <dennister> i'm trying to stick with hardy for the newbs
[07:15] <ForgeAus> ok all fixed
[07:15] <dennister> i tried intrepid on one of my own systems when it first came out, and deleted it real quick, too...probably better now that some maintenance releases have been issued
[07:16] <ForgeAus> akk gwenview/kde4 bindings removes digikam... hmmm
[07:17] <ForgeAus> oddly dennister, most stuff there isn't kde4 stuff for, still runs as kde3 for me, but thats becuase I upgraded so much of kde3 is still there...
[07:17] <ForgeAus> except the one thing I miss the most, kcontrol
[07:18] <dennister> although i should get off my butt and redo my dual core system with the 64 arch ...willing to give it a shot again now that 64-bit flash is finally available......but my inventory system is on it :(
[07:18] <ForgeAus> (everything else that is replaced works as the replaced version by default...
[07:18] <ForgeAus> I don't think I was actually intended to upgrade intrepid, as opposed to install it from scratch...
[07:19] <ForgeAus> its an odd situation I'm in... has its eccentricities...
[07:19] <ForgeAus> but for the most part everything works and I'm fairly happy with it
[07:20] <aga> i am going to have to reinstall today i think
[07:20] <aga> there's something borked here
[07:22] <dennister> ForgeAus: as long as you're happy :-)
[07:22] <dennister> aga: yes, sometimes a reinstall takes less time than trying to fix the issues
[07:23] <aga> i normally prefer to fix them tho
[07:23] <aga> but i have spent all sunday fighting with this and i'm starting to have enough
[07:23] <dennister> i can't believe i did a full ubuntu install in less than an hour...with livecd and manual partitioning scheme
[07:23] <ForgeAus> dennister, I do :)
[07:24] <aga> 8.04 was real quick to install
[07:24] <ForgeAus> ubuntu isn't always painful
[07:24] <aga> or ubuntu in general i dunno
[07:24] <ForgeAus> in fact its painless in many aspects
[07:24] <aga> kubuntu takes me longer always
[07:24] <dennister> i'm used to using the mini.iso or the alternate install cd, to avoid all the updates...but I seem to remember it ends up taking longer with those methods
[07:25] <dennister> yes, i haven't done the kde yet...updates will probably take all night
[07:25] <dennister> and i should go to bed...2:30 am here
[07:25] <aga> urgs
[07:26] <aga> im about to leave to work
[07:27] <ForgeAus> ohh koffice 4 is in beta, I didn't know that... (wouldn't have changed my decision to get it anyway... )
[07:27] <dennister> g'nite folks
[07:28] <aga> urgs... cannot initiate the http protocol...
[07:28] <aga> sounds bad :P
[07:28] <p_quarles> aga: in which application?
[07:29]  * Jingly giggles so hard a tiny fart escapes
[07:29] <Jingly> that was a good one, p_quarles =]
[07:29] <aga> konqueror
[07:29] <aga> wondering what on earth is going on here
[07:29] <p_quarles> aga: did just upgrade to KDE 4.2.2 by chance?
[07:29]  * Jingly giggles so hard a tiny fart escapes
[07:29] <Jingly> that was a good one, p_quarles =]
[07:29] <p_quarles> Jingly: umm, turn your script off please
[07:29] <aga> i think to kde 4.2
[07:29] <aga> let me check
[07:29] <Jingly> I dunno.
[07:30] <p_quarles> aga: if you upgrade libraries, you need to restart your KDE session
[07:30]  * Jingly giggles so hard a tiny fart escapes
[07:30] <Jingly> that was a good one, p_quarles =]
[07:30] <aga> jup it just finished upgrading
[07:30] <p_quarles> aga: yep, that's it then
[07:30]  * Jingly giggles so hard a tiny fart escapes
[07:30] <aga> yeah need to go out and back in again
[07:30] <Jingly> that was a good one, p_quarles =]
[07:30] <p_quarles> !ops
[07:30] <aga> be right back
[07:33] <alba_> ok let's try now
[07:34] <aga> right now it works:D
[07:36] <R3DB0x> can anyone recommend a burning program other than k3b, it keeps locking up on me.
[07:36] <doleyb> R3DB0x: there's brasero, cdrecord
[08:04] <pradeep> hi
[08:08] <shrini> pradeep:hi
[08:09] <pradeep>  <pradeep> hi
[08:09] <pradeep>  i am new to this community
[08:09] <pradeep> i just want to learn linux and i want to participate in opensource community
[08:09] <pradeep> i couldn't find any channel, where to start how to work
 could you help me?
[08:09] <shrini> pradeep: welcome
[08:10] <shrini> pradeep: how can we help you?
[08:10] <pradeep> i just want to participate in bugsquad
[08:10] <shrini> pradeep: you are always welcome to ask questions and answer others questions
[08:10] <pradeep> what is the procedure
[08:13] <shrini> pradeep: I am new to bugsquad
[08:13] <shrini> pradeep: this is a way to contribute by reporting bugs
[08:13] <shrini> pradeep: we fix somedays to work on finding bugs and reporting
[08:14] <pradeep> ok
[08:14] <shrini> predeep: for kde see here, http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad
[08:14] <Veovis> Hi, I have a quick question, probably pretty stupid.
[08:14] <shrini> Veovis: tell
[08:14] <Veovis> My wireless driver says that it is activated, but not currently in use.
[08:15] <pradeep> shrini:ok
[08:15] <shrini> Veovis: sorry, no idea on wireless
[08:15] <Veovis> I enabled proprietary drivers in 8.10 okay a few months ago, but I'm not sure how to here...
[08:15] <Veovis> it's not wireless specific I don't think
[08:16] <shrini> pradeep: you can join with your friends and join the irc for bug and start contributing
[08:16] <Veovis> and I forgot to mention that I'm in 9.04 beta
[08:16] <shrini> pradeep: people will help you to start to fing bugs and reporting them
[08:17] <pradeep> shrini: thanq for your valuble suggessions
[08:18] <shrini> pradeep:hmmm. fine. we like to see bug reports from you
[08:19] <pradeep> shrini: sure i will try, but may take time bec i am new to this
[08:20] <shrini> pradeep: fine. no problem. we like your passion towards contribution
[08:20] <pradeep> thanQ
[08:20] <shrini> pradeep: take your time and learn and do
[08:21] <pradeep> sure
[08:45] <elliottm> for some reason, double-clicking on "*.py" files doesn't open them in kate like it used to. instead, nothing happens. I looked in the "default applications" thing in system settings and i didn't see anything wrong
[08:45] <elliottm> this is in hardy by the way. any ideas?
[08:54] <Papupata> Hi! Is there any solutions to have a 1920x1200 resolution with nvidia card, when using dvi-cable?
[08:55] <elliottm> what's the problem?
[08:57] <Papupata> i only able to get 640x480 resolution when using dvi-cable
[08:57] <Papupata> but when using vga-cable everything works just fine
[09:01] <Firefishe> What is a way to reset to default the kde desktop ?
[09:01] <Firefishe> Meaning, what directopry or file  can I nix?
[09:02] <Firefishe> directory
[09:08] <doleyb> Firefishe: look in ~/.kde/share/config
[09:10] <Firefishe> doleyb: thank you, that's just what I needed.
[09:12] <Firefishe> doleyb: What file can I delete to get back to defaults?
[09:12] <doleyb> Firefishe: defaults for what?
[09:12] <doleyb> Firefishe: maybe instead of deleting things, you should _move_ all those files elsewhere, and see if that's how you like it.
[09:12] <Firefishe> kde 4.x desktop
[09:12] <doleyb> Firefishe: then if there's trouble, you can move them back
[09:14] <Firefishe> doleyb: This is a brand new install. Everything is new.  What happend is I set some effects up but my computer--which is older--can't handle them.  Now all I have is a desktop I can't see.  I need to get my defaults back.
[09:14] <Firefishe> doleyb: So it really doesn't matter, as there's nothing to lose, anyway ;)
[09:14] <doleyb> Firefishe: ok, so just move that whole directory away and relog in
[09:14] <Firefishe> k..thaks
[09:14] <Firefishe> thanks
[09:32] <ForgeAus> is there a way I can save my colourscheme to the kde (GetNewSchemes) hotstuff list?
[09:32] <ForgeAus> ie kdelooks.org?
[09:32] <ForgeAus> wait kde-look.org... something like that
[09:53] <glick> whaty the heck?
[09:53] <glick> when i grab a window and move it around the cursor lets go of it
[09:53] <glick> and i have to click and hold its title bar again
[09:54] <glick> is that a known bug?
[09:54] <doleyb> glick: I wonder if it's your mouse
[09:55] <doleyb> glick: Have you played around in gimp or something to see if it skips? or xev?
[09:55] <glick> no doleyb
[09:58] <ForgeAus> argh! if I'm going to put my KDE theme in kde-look.org what License should I give it?
[10:03] <jussi01> ForgeAus: hrm... one of the CC licenses maybe?
[10:03] <ForgeAus> not GPL?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:05] <ForgeAus> does it even matter? I just wanna put my content on the site so ppl can enjoy it if they want
[10:06] <ForgeAus> (afterall its just a colourscheme)
[10:23] <doleyb> ForgeAus: use whatever other people on kdelook use
[10:24] <ForgeAus> uh that would be easy if they were mostly the same
[10:26] <ForgeAus> isn't KDE GPL ? maybe I should use GPL?
[10:27] <dmbkiwi> ForgeAus: just use GPL
[10:27] <ForgeAus> hehe dmb, ok GPL or LGPL?
[10:28] <dmbkiwi> ForgeAus: Just GPL - LGPL is to allow non-GPL software to link to library files (I think).
[10:28] <ForgeAus> libraries don't make sense in the context of a colourscheme anyway
[10:29] <ForgeAus> ok sent
[10:29] <ForgeAus> "My Blue Heaven"
[10:37] <ForgeAus> actually its alot like the Krome one I just saw there
[11:12] <jpsnl1> list *vista*
[11:12] <jpsnl1> oops, sorry
[11:37] <hunter> hey folks, i have a tar problem. i cannot install it anymore. it says all the time, "packege could not be found". any idea?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> wow quiet
[12:07] <dannyboy> hey
[12:14] <almox> Hello
[12:17] <victim> hi almox
[12:17] <victim> yo dannyboy
[12:18] <victim> oh danny has gone :(
[12:19] <oobe> victim, hallo
[12:20] <oobe> you should change your nick just a suggestion
[12:20] <cuznt> why?
[12:20] <cuznt> he can be the victim or the crime
[12:22] <Idhan> how many colour can have a mouse cursor on linux?
[12:23] <victim> i used to be the victim, the name came from my really bad playing ability at Nexuiz
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Idhan: id image as many as you like,up to 24bit colour
[12:25] <Idhan> ActionParsnip: are you sure.. so far I each time I set a cursor, it is displayed with 1 colour
[12:25] <Idhan> ActionParsnip: which format are you files?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> ive not made any myself but id imagine there is no limiy
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Idhan: if you download some cursor themes to compar you may strike gold
[12:30] <almox> ROSHA : hello
[12:31] <eamusic> hola a todos
 hola k tal
[12:33] <almox> hehe
[12:33] <eamusic> hola almox
[12:34] <eamusic> mira almox... tu sabes porqué no puedo instalar un tema de KDE?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !es
[12:35] <almox> ja' tentou instalar algum  plug?
[12:54] <noaXess> where can i get the gwenview plugins?
[12:54] <Jason_CO> can someone tell me which driver i should be using for an Intel 82865G Integrated graphics controller (rev 02)
[12:54] <noaXess> in gwenview/plugins all categories are empty
[12:57] <noaXess> !info gwenview
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> !info kipi-plugins
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> if gwenview is KIPI (whatever that is)
[13:01] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: it is :)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> and there you go :D
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> apt-cache search gwen
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> apt-cache search solves most issues
[13:10] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[13:11] <wizkoder> When I try to start a session in virtualbox I get the message that I should remove the kvm kernel module
[13:11] <wizkoder> when I do that it works
[13:11] <wizkoder> but the next tiome I reboot the module is loaded again
[13:12] <wizkoder> how do I prevent that?
[13:13] <wizkoder> (I remove it with rmmod kvm_intel)
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: blacklist it (if its in the host system)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: or have a script to rmmod the module then run vbox, once vbox dies modprobe the module again, depends how much you use the vbox
[13:18] <wizkoder> will try the blacklist solution. as on the 23rd I will reinstall this computer anyway with jaunty final :-)
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: jaunty has been pushed back to augst afaik
[13:22] <antoly> =)
[13:22] <reagleBRKLN> hi, i'm using kde 4.2.2, i want to assign "alt-g" to go to my home page; alt-home (the default) takes current tab to home page, but when i specify "alt-g" as alternative, it open home in a new tab?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !shortcuts
[13:27] <doleyb> August!! oh noo
[13:32] <rosco_y> wizkoder: I was just thinking about trying out a virtual install of windows, any recommendations?
[13:32] <carpii__> on what?
[13:33] <almox> Amarok servd
[13:33] <noren> hi all
[13:33] <rosco_y> carpii__: Linux :)
[13:33] <almox> ????
[13:33] <carpii__> rosco, i mean recommendations for windows version, or for virtualisation ?
[13:34] <rosco_y> well, I was thinking of trying to use my AutoCAD, and maybe my ChessMaster
[13:34] <wizkoder> I use Windows XP here with the Virtualbox from the Sun Page. Works good so far. but I would like kvm a lot more
[13:35] <rosco_y> Thanks wizkoder, I'll look into that
[13:35] <tobor> wizkoder: just for our enlightenment what is the good stuff that kvm has?
[13:35] <carpii__> i tend to use vmware, but my home lan is more of an small business setup
[13:35] <carpii__> XP on vmware is dandy
[13:35] <rosco_y> wizkoder: what do you do in your virtual XP?
[13:35] <tobor> wizkoder: sort of, what do you like about it?
[13:35] <wizkoder> I just try webpages with IE6 .-)
[13:36] <wizkoder> And try Google chrome
[13:36] <wizkoder> I am a web developer
[13:36] <rosco_y> ok
[13:36] <tobor> wizkoder: so you use it for testing web pages on multiple browsers with moving to another machine?
[13:36] <rosco_y> I suspect I'll probably have to go with a raw installation in the end, but I'm curious to see for myself what it's like
[13:37] <wizkoder> No I test ff2/3 on linux and ie6/7/8 on windows
[13:37] <rosco_y> tobor: that seems like a pretty good idea
[13:37] <tobor> wizkoder: s/with/without/ :)
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: could run it seamless mode to look leet :D
[13:38] <rosco_y> wizkoder: if you would like kvm, why aren't you using kvm?
[13:38] <tobor> (why do my typing erros ALWAYS reverse the logic of what I'm trying to say and NEVER look like errors? ! )
[13:38] <rosco_y> and why would you prefer kvm?
[13:38] <rosco_y> I'm fluent in typos too
[13:38] <wizkoder> I tried kvm first. But gave me errors. So I tries virtualbox and it just worked. As I do only need it for browser testing performance is not important. So the easiest package wins :-)
[13:39] <rosco_y> but why would you prefer kvm?
[13:39] <tobor> makes good sense. Get the job done anyway you can.
[13:39] <tobor> rosco_y: re:typos - hehe :)
[13:39] <rosco_y> (I'm trying to decide what to install--which should I try first?)
[13:39] <wizkoder> kvm is not sun. thats why :-)
[13:39] <rosco_y> lol
[13:39] <wizkoder> and sun belongs to ibm soon :-(
[13:40] <rosco_y> wizkoder: that's sad
[13:40] <tobor> eye bee who?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: ibm are awesome, they loves the linux
[13:40] <rosco_y> so does that mean I should be worried about my choice to use mysql?
[13:40] <wizkoder> no they don't. the just dance on all weddings....
[13:41] <tobor> ActionParsnip: only true for a very small part of IBM.  People I know who work at IBM say that the company is like Europe in the middle ages, may small kingdoms, ofetn at war witrh each other.
[13:42] <tobor> ActionParsnip: to determine what IBM really wants you have to look deep into their annual report and see what directions their revenue is trending in and match that up with their hiring numbers.  up with
[13:42] <tobor> *often *with
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4
[13:42] <tobor> [Apparently my finger need to be dipped in some very hot coffee this AM.. :) )
[13:42] <rosco_y> lol
[13:43] <tobor> *fingers... (see?)
[13:43] <tobor> There is actually a small business segment dedicated to just watching IBM and selling analysis and data to IBM's competition.
[13:43] <rosco_y> Does VirtualBox support 64 bits?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> rosco_y: the beta one supposedly does but ive never had success installing a 64bit guest
[13:44] <wizkoder> Nice ad
[13:44] <wizkoder> okay, okay, ibm is doing some good things too .-)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: lots, makes me smile
[13:45] <rosco_y> ActionParsnip: would you recommend kvm or VirtualBox?
[13:45] <wizkoder> I had to work an mainframes for 7 years of my life :-(
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> rosco_y: vbox is pretty simple. i recommend try both
[13:45] <wizkoder> And this stuff compared to linux is just giving me the creeps nowadays .-)
[13:46] <rosco_y> is vbox = VirtualBox?
[13:46] <mk_mike> Yes
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> yah, im just lazy
[13:46] <rosco_y> that's okay--I'm just trying to figure this out.
[13:47] <rosco_y> I wish I could install one version, and be satisfied--so I wouldn't have to delete and reinstall a whole windows 0S twice
[13:47] <rosco_y> I wish I didn't need windows at all
[13:47] <tobor> ActionParsnip: what the license on vbox?
[13:47] <tobor> *whats
[13:48] <rosco_y> oooh...I don't have money for licenses....
[13:48] <rosco_y> I wasn't thinking about that
[13:48] <reagleBRKLN> ubottu: i know how to set the shortcut, but it doesn't do what i expect. why does alt-home send current page to homepage, but my shortcut opens new tab?
[13:48] <rosco_y> I have a choice, coffee or cheap licenses, and coffee winds
[13:48] <rosco_y> winds=winds
[13:48] <rosco_y> wins, even
[13:49] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: where are you creating this "shortcut" ?
[13:49] <reagleBRKLN> tobor: konq/settings/config shortcuts
[13:50] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: does that actually say "shortcuts" in the menu?
[13:51] <reagleBRKLN> It's the Konqeuror menu bar: Settings/Configure Shortcuts
[13:51] <almox> tem algum servidor para o Amarok???
[13:52] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: OK, when I go to konq the "configure shortcust" seems to be dealing with creating alternative key-sequence that do stuff
[13:52] <reagleBRKLN> yes, and i want a shortcut to go to homepage
[13:53] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: go to home page means you want a new tab opened on your default broswer page?
[13:53] <reagleBRKLN> no, i want current tab to go to home page
[13:53] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: or you want the current tab to move to your default page?
[13:53] <reagleBRKLN> much like alt-tab does now
[13:53] <tobor> heh OK.
[13:53] <reagleBRKLN> i mean alt-home
[13:56] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: I'm on konq 3.3.1 - I dont see any shortcut for moving the current tag to the home page.  There is a ctrl-home, but that open the home directory
[13:57] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: and i dont see any option for adding new shorcuts to konq, although my konq is old.
[13:57] <reagleBRKLN> tobor: i had it working in 3.5... it's not new, i just want my alternative 'ctrl-g' to do the same thing alt-home does
[13:57] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: 3.5 is newer than mine.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> tobor: you need a license for windows if you are using windows, open OSes are free to install as you see fit under the GPL
[13:59] <tobor> ActionParsnip: I meant the license on vbox. Is it GPL?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> tobor: oh yes definatle
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> y
[14:00] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: ok, unmap the curreft definition of ctrl-g (if any) and att ctrl-g as the alternate for what ever alt-home does
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox-ose
[14:00] <tobor> ActionParsnip: thankee, pard! :)
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> !vbox
[14:00] <reagleBRKLN> tobor: yes, and it opens it in a new tab, that's the crux of the problem
[14:00] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: and alt-home does not open in a new tab?
[14:00] <reagleBRKLN> correct
[14:01] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: then you must already have an active definition of ctrl-g mapped to somethibng else?
[14:02] <reagleBRKLN> don't think so
[14:03] <tobor> interesting 3.3 doesn't have alt-home in the list, nor doers it do anything
[14:03] <rosco_y> I installed the vmware-package, but I can't find the installed software--any ideas on how to start up vmware?
[14:05] <Jevon> First time here = please be patient
[14:05] <Jevon> What's up with Kubuntu forums
[14:05] <tobor> Jevon: what is the symptom?
[14:06] <Jevon> Service unavailable via Kubuntu.net
[14:06] <tobor> reagleBRKLN: looks like my konq is too old to be of help to you,
[14:06] <reagleBRKLN> ok, thanks
[14:07] <tobor> Jevon: sounds like a web server is down, or possibly a networking problem. all guesses
[14:08] <Raylz> Hole:22 http://at.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main phonon 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu2
[14:08] <Raylz> ehm, is this a kde 3.1 alpha package?
[14:08] <Raylz> 4.3.1*
[14:09] <Jevon> maybe I'll through my questions here - tell me if I'm in the wrong spot
[14:10] <Jevon> I'm at 8.04 AMD 64 on Laptop - looking to get my wireless working - Atheros - lat time I did this it screwed the system - should I move up to 8.1 or wait for a stable release of 9.0X
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Jevon: what atheros chip is it?
[14:13] <Jevon> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Jevon: and what is the output of     lsb_release -c
[14:14] <Jevon> Hardy
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Jevon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921329
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[14:15] <Jevon> I'll check it out
[14:15] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip
[14:17] <reagleBRKLN> anyone know why andale mono is offered as a fixed width ttf font in kde 4.2?
[14:17] <reagleBRKLN> i mean isn't
[14:19] <Raylz> is there an alternative for qtcurve?
[14:19] <Raylz> it messes with tabs
[14:19] <Raylz> and stuff in my firefox
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> !info qtcurve
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Raylz: does a different firefox theme help?
[14:22] <Raylz> ActionParsnip: the problem is that it changes the buttons and input boxes
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[14:22] <Raylz> i guess that cant be helped with a ff theme
[14:22] <Raylz> ActionParsnip: but good idea, maybe it fixes the tabs
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> possibly, cant hurt to try
[14:26] <virk> Hi, how do I setup kickoff so that it disseapers when I click somewhere other than kickoff?
[14:26] <virk> right now, it only dissapears again when I launch an app, or when I click on that 'K' button again
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> !info kickoff
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> !find kick
[14:42] <mike1312> Hi everybody I have such a funny problem system treats my desktop files (icons) as text
[14:43] <mike1312> opens it in kate when i klick it
[14:43] <mike1312> How to fixit?
[14:54] <altrortla> hello ... i need a tips... "about" a high configurable images viewer... do you know the best?
[14:54] <brian_> Hi everybody
[14:55] <JoKoT3> mike1312: system configuration -> file associations
[14:55] <brian_> I installed Kubuntu 8.10 yesterday..
[14:55] <brian_> Its seems to be working fine,,
[14:55] <brian_> but i have doubts abt creating shortkeys ...
[14:56] <brian_> like i want to see the desktop when i press a short-key..
[14:56] <brian_> Can any one help me,, to configure..
[14:56] <brian_> :-)
[14:56] <cuznt> !-ls
[14:57] <brian_> like when i press ctrl+alt+D the Desktop has to be displayed
[14:58] <brian_> any one there to help ?
[14:58] <brian_> hellllooooooooooooo
[14:58] <JoKoT3> brian_: have you tried hotkeys settings ?
[14:58] <JoKoT3> in system config ?
[14:58] <brian_> no,
[14:58] <brian_> let me check
[14:59] <almox> helllllooooooool
[15:00] <eamusic> hi everybody.
[15:01] <eamusic> im trying to change my incons theme on kubuntu AMD60 with KDE4.2,
[15:01] <cuznt> !hi | eamusic
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[15:01] <mike1312> OK JoKoT3  and where should i put *.desktop extension?
[15:02] <JoKoT3> mike1312: it's x(desktop, it already exists
[15:02] <JoKoT3> x-desktop*
[15:02] <eamusic> thanks :)
[15:02] <ame_> !viewer
[15:03] <JoKoT3> !info viewer
[15:04] <mike1312> JoKoT3    in my system it doesnt
[15:04] <JoKoT3> !find viewer
[15:04] <wizkoder> Is it possible to have this excellent wobbly windows of compiz in kubuntu 9.04? Have that in 3.5.
[15:04] <JoKoT3> mike1312: have you tried to type desktop in the search bar ?
[15:04] <JoKoT3> (
[15:05] <JoKoT3> That's how I found it
[15:05] <mike1312> JoKoT3   yes
[15:05] <ame_> JoKoT3: thanks
[15:06] <JoKoT3> mike, you should add it so
[15:07] <JoKoT3> mine shows x-desktop with patterns *.desktop and *.kdelnk
[15:07] <JoKoT3> and kate in applications
[15:08] <ame_> JoKoT3: but i need ones that can andle image in logical way... (I need to keep one random image from a folder, than another from another folder, and so on ...) i don't know what i have to choose
[15:08] <ame_> handle
[15:08] <mike1312> JoKoT3  there is no interface to add an extension
[15:08] <mike1312> there must be another way
[15:09] <khaled_> hello
[15:14] <JoKoT3> mike1312: I do have an "Add" button on my interface
[15:14] <JoKoT3> ame_: I can't help you on this, I barrely use the default viewer :)
[15:15] <ame_> JoKoT3: thanks the same Joko...  Whats the main feature of this type?
[15:36] <mauri29> How to avoid this message?: "Information - Dolphin / Unable to change the permissions of /media/sda5/......" It ocurrs while copying or moving files in a ntfs partition, every time. I'm useing KDE4.2. I know a little what it means, but I can't find a solution modifying /etc/fstab.
[15:36]  * cuznt thinks compas was pointed in the wrong direction
[15:37] <mike1312> Thanks JoKoT3 Now its fine
[15:38] <JoKoT3> mike1312: these's are mime types, I don't bother understanding them :)
[15:40] <mauri29> I use Kubuntu in spanish, so I translated this text message to english useing Google. In spanish forums I can't find any solution. In english Google don't give me any results, I mean this is because the translation to english doesn't match the KDE message exactly. Anybody can tell me in english if this message apear?
[15:40] <mauri29> Or where to find something about fixit ?
[15:41] <mauri29> (sorry my bad/little english, thanks)
[15:41] <vital> What would be the best driver for my ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 card if I need 3d-accelleration?  i've had trouble getting the proprietary ati-driver to work with x-server 1.6.
[15:41] <dwidmann> mauri29: I think what it might mean is that ntfs is incompatible with unix-style permissions (It uses ACL)
[15:42] <jeltsch> mauri29: I didn’t read the beginning of you question but you can run applications without translation (i.e., in American English) by setting the LANG variable to C temporarily.
[15:43] <jeltsch> For example, to start Kate in English, open a terminal and then enter this: LANG=C kate
[15:43] <mike1312> mauri29 I have same situation  You dont have to mount it by command
[15:44] <mike1312> There is icons of partions on the left side in the dolphin
[15:45] <mauri29> jeltsch: thanks, I started dolphin that way and works, but the message still apears in spanish hee... --> [11:36] <mauri29> How to avoid this message?: "Information - Dolphin / Unable to change the permissions of /media/sda5/......" It ocurrs while copying or moving files in a ntfs partition, every time. I'm useing KDE4.2. I know a little what it means, but I can't find a solution modifying /etc/fstab.
[15:46] <mike1312> mauri29 If you prefer to use commands there must be file system type ntfs-3g  #mount -t ntfs-3g ....
[15:46] <dwidmann> mauri29: it gives you that message, but does copying the files work okay anway or fail?
[15:46] <jeltsch> mauri29: Ah, maybe Dolphin just shows a message it got from some other tool. And this tool is run with translations enabled.
[15:46] <mauri29> jeltsch: this message does not apear in english, I translated useing google from spanish for posting here.
[15:47] <ForgeAus> wow myblueheaven showed up on a RSS fee dI was reading, I guess I need a companion now, myredhell?
[15:47] <mauri29> dwidmann: copying files work fine, only this message is annoying(?)
[15:48] <mauri29> mike1312: trying this
[15:51] <mauri29> mike1312: can't unmount partition right now, but I think this couldn't fix the problem.
[15:51] <mauri29> (think = mean ? sorry)
[15:51] <bab> Hi. Where can I get infos about programming under Linux? How can I get informations about a window which is in front?
[15:52] <jussi01> bab: what kind of programming?
[15:54] <mike1312> mauri29 Do it as root
[15:55] <mauri29> mike1312: yes, I did
[15:55] <mauri29> I mean this situation is because permissons in ntfs are handled in other way, ext3 for example, does. Any body know how this message apears en english exactly? "Información - dolphin / No se pudieron cambiar los permisos de" Google-Translation--> "Information - Dolphin / Unable to change the permissions of /media/sda5/......" It could me help to search with Google and find solutions on forums
[15:55] <bab> jussi01: I want to create a tool which show name of the current window in front. My tool should create a special menu for this application after getting the infos.
[15:56] <bab> jussi01: Do you know some websites with tutorials that can help me?
[15:58] <mauri29> mike1312: $ sudo umount /dev/sda5 \n umount: /media/sda5: device is busy. \n     (In some cases useful info about processes that use \n    the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[16:00] <mauri29> mike1312: I don't know what happened now, can't access files on /media/sda5..  going to restart .... anyway, thanks for all the answers.
[16:23] <edgy> Hi, in kmail I have some of my inbox colored in blue, what does this means, please?
[16:24] <Tm_T> edgy: unread messages?
[16:36] <mauri29> Hello again, a few minutes ago I was asking about avoid this spanish message (Kubuntu-sp) while copying files (that suceeds) with Dolphin "Información - dolphin / No se pudieron cambiar los permisos de /media/sda5/..." Google-Translation--> "Information - Dolphin / Unable to change the permissions of /media/sda5/..." , but after creating a new user account in english, I found this problem doesn't ocurrs.
[16:38] <mauri29> Other question: anybody knows what program is good to record videos from screen activity?
[16:38] <Pici> !screencast | mauri29
[16:39] <mauri29> Thanks! :)
[16:43] <edgy> Tm_T: no, I mean the inbox folder, the Drafts, the Send Mail folder for my gmail imap account, previously it's not blue
[16:52] <almox> mariapira:hi
[16:55] <rgarcia> does anybody could help me on uninstalling .deb package using dpkg?
[16:57] <dwidmann> rgarcia: dpkg -r packagename (not package_version_arch.deb)
[16:58] <rgarcia> for example this pack
[16:58] <rgarcia> LimeWireLinux.deb
[16:58] <rgarcia> just limewire?
[16:58] <pietje_phuck> Can any one tell me what happened to "su" in 9.04?
[16:58] <dwidmann> rgarcia: if that's its packagname, then yes :)
[16:59] <pietje_phuck> I need to manage a remote machine
[16:59] <rgarcia> right..thanxx
[16:59] <dwidmann> !jaunty | pietje_phuck
[16:59] <rgarcia> another doubt is, alway when i'm loading amsn it freezes for me..
[17:00] <pietje_phuck> dwidmann: thanks
[17:02] <dwidmann> rgarcia: I dunno about that one ... I've never used amsn
[17:02] <rgarcia> do you know another one better than amsn?
[17:03] <dwidmann> rgarcia: umm, you could try kopete, or pidgin
[17:04] <rgarcia> pidgin..right...
[17:04] <rgarcia> dwidmann: how do i paste bin?
[17:04] <dwidmann> !paste
[17:05] <rgarcia> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/145523/
[17:06] <rgarcia> take a look on what is happening
[17:06] <rgarcia> when i use dpkg
[17:07] <dwidmann> rgarcia: what I said above about removing only applies when removing, when intalling you actually use a file w/filename, ie: LimeWireLinux.deb
[17:07] <pietje_phuck> What has happened to "su" in 9.04?
[17:07] <pietje_phuck> oops
[17:08] <rgarcia> sorry but could you pls write for me what i have to do(write) because i'm new here and i did not get you told me
[17:10] <dwidmann> rgarcia: sudo dpkg -i LimeWireLinux.deb
[17:10] <rgarcia> but i have already installed here
[17:10] <dwidmann> rgarcia: alternatively, though, you could install that with gdebi by navigating to it in dolphin/konqueror/[insert file manager here] and clicking on it :)
[17:11] <dwidmann> rgarcia: it looked like you were trying to install it, in the paste you linked me to ...
[17:13] <rgarcia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145528/
[17:13] <rgarcia> look i copy ur text there
[17:13] <rgarcia> i want to removew it
[17:15] <dwidmann> try "sudo dpkg -r limewire-basic"
[17:16] <rgarcia> yes it works...but now explain me why does the real name doesn't work?
[17:17] <dwidmann> rgarcia: because dpkg only deals with packages, so a filename as an argument would onlyl make sense for installing ... or something like that.
[17:17] <dwidmann> rgarcia: maybe the manpage can describe "why" better
[17:17] <rgarcia> mmm..and where did you find that name?
[17:17] <ForgeAus> can somoene make a .deb out of a source pacakge for me?
[17:18] <ForgeAus> (maybe even add it to kde-looks.org)
[17:19] <dwidmann> Hmm, I could try, I suppose
[17:19] <dwidmann> gah, why did it fail?
[17:20] <rgarcia> lol okay..thanks a lot
[17:21] <dwidmann> hmm, ForgeAus, it failed saying "connection actively refused"
[17:23] <ame_> !info viewer
[17:24] <ame_> !find viewer
[17:24] <ame_> !evince
[17:24] <ame_> !info evince
[17:26] <Gabrielsk8> hello, peoples
[17:27] <ame_> Hello i need a good viewer that can handle image in logical way... (I need to keep one random image from a folder, than another from another folder, and so on ...) i don't know what i have to choose
[17:29] <ame_> no tips?
[17:46] <ame_> anyones can help me to install ksquirrel
[17:46] <ame_> ?
[17:47] <dwidmann> ame: http://ksquirrel.sourceforge.net/download.php
[17:48] <dwidmann> ame_: there are *.debs :)
[17:49] <ame_> dwidmann: I have seen it... but no dipendence for codec
[17:51] <dwidmann> ?
[17:51] <ame_> dwidmann: nope... i'm trying
[17:51] <cuznt> !info ksquirrel
[17:57] <ame_> dwidmann: It say that for kubuntu user it's possible to use reposities ....
[17:57] <ame_> dwidmann: what are them?
[17:57] <ame_> or better
[17:57] <ame_> where are?
[17:58] <dwidmann> !repository
[17:59] <ame_> Note for KUbuntu users: if you have access to online repositories or can download extra KUbuntu packages from somewhere, you can install KSquirrel from .debs for Debian Etch. You can download them from here. Installation will fail on default KUbuntu due to dependency errors (there are no djvulibre-bin and libkexif on 1DVD version of KUbuntu).
[17:59] <Tm_T> ame_: but those are installable from repositories
[18:02] <tronx> hey guys
[18:03] <tronx> i have jaunty beta. the network plasmoid doesn't show up my configured connections?
[18:03] <Tm_T> !jaunty | tronx
[18:03] <tronx> oh sorry :/
[18:03] <Tm_T> np (:
[18:11] <ame_> ops
[18:11] <ame_> i have
[18:12] <ame_> MAkE todo
[18:12] <ame_> ma it do not recognize the command
[18:24] <yaa__> cal >кал
[18:25] <Gabrielsk8> hi yaa
[18:27] <yaa__> hi)
[18:30] <twisted_g> hi everyone
[18:31] <cuznt> !hi | twisted_g
[18:31] <yaa__> hello twist
[18:31] <twisted_g> ells ubottu , yaa__
[18:32] <twisted_g> does anyone have a good resource, getting started guide etc for aptitude?
[18:32] <draik_> Is there a command for generating a random string of characters?
[18:32] <cuznt> i use my arm across the keyboard
[18:32] <cuznt> thats random
[18:32] <orte> hi everybody
[18:33] <Dragnslcr> draik_- probably easiest to write a bash/Perl/Python/PHP script to do it
[18:33] <orte> that's right
[18:34] <twisted_g> from (apt-cache search random | grep string) : libstring-koremutake-perl - Convert to/from Koremutake Memorable Random Strings
[18:34] <twisted_g> libstring-random-perl - Perl module for generating random strings
[18:35] <Dragnslcr> You shouldn't need a module for it. It's only about 3 lines of code
[18:35] <draik_> Dragnslcr: Don't suppose you know of one that's already been created?
[18:35] <twisted_g> try http://www.random.org/strings/ ?
[18:35] <Dragnslcr> I could write it in PHP in about a minute. Might take closer to two or three minutes for me in Perl or Python
[18:38] <shock_day13> hey everyone
[18:39] <PhilRod> draik_: in bash:
[18:39] <PhilRod> for i in `seq 100`; do printf '\x'$(printf '%x' `echo $(( RANDOM % 100+ 32 ))`); done
[18:39] <PhilRod> that's not quite right, but it has the basic idea
[18:39] <PhilRod> 10 points for understanding it :-)
[18:40] <Oceanwatcher> Anyone heard anything about when kubuntuforums.net will be back online? A very friendly forum with a lot of great knowledge.
[18:40] <aga> ok... i am a bit worried... linux-headers-2.6.27-11 linux-headers-2.6.27-7 linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic
[18:40] <aga> is it safe to remove that?
[18:41] <twisted_g> hiya aga, i got the same issue
[18:41] <twisted_g> 2.6.24 though
[18:41] <twisted_g> with 2.6.27 installed, just not making much sense how it shows though
[18:41] <pawelbial> please type uname -a
[18:41] <draik_> twisted_g: I want more than alphanumeric
[18:42] <aga> i am just wondering why apt said that those packages are not needed anymore...
[18:42] <twisted_g> draik_: then you're gonna have to write one
[18:42] <aga> Linux alba 2.6.27-14-generic #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:00:20 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:42] <twisted_g> draik_: follow PhilRod 's advice
[18:42] <aga> aaaa now i see pawelbial... my kernel is newer than that right?
[18:42] <twisted_g> draik_: nice bash script, play around with it... bash is fun
[18:43] <pawelbial> aga as you can see you are using newer that what is proposal to remove so you can safely remove that
[18:43] <aga> right :D thanks a bunch
[18:43] <pawelbial> np
[18:44] <aga> i just panicked, lately all oddities are happening to me
[18:46] <aga> and now... another question, my partition tables are not in order... if i put them in order, i will move swap, but i won't move root... might that mean any issue for grub and booting??
[18:47] <draik_> twisted_g: That's actually what I want :)
[18:49] <pawelbial> aga: in this case it might make some issue for grub and booting - if number of partiotion change ubuntu won't but
[18:49] <pawelbial> but it is not hard to fix
[18:50] <aga> problem is that /swap is on /dev/sda6 and i have another partition on /dev/sda7
[18:50] <pawelbial> even in grub menu
[18:50] <aga> root wouldn't change tho, only those 2... and i am anything but skilled with grub
[18:50] <Dragnslcr> The partition order doesn't really matter
[18:51] <Dragnslcr> Unless you have some very specific reason to try to move partitions around, I wouldn't bother
[18:51] <aga> it's not life or death, it's just that i know the order is not the correct and bothers me a bit... dunno like some kind of uneasiness
[18:51] <aga> but if this is gonna lead me to some kernel panic or weird grub errors i can very well leave it as it is
[18:53] <shock_day13> complicated problem guys?
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> The order not being "correct" is definitely not a good enough reason to try to move them
[18:53] <twisted_g> how safe is it to remove packages marked as "obsolete" in aptitude. specifically, it is linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic. i have the linux-generic meta-package installed, showing 2.6.27. safe to remove?
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> You shouldn't ever really need to address partitions through /dev anyway
[18:54] <Unksi> twisted_g: should be safe to remove if the newer kernel works fine
[18:54] <Dragnslcr> twisted_g- you can, but it doesn't hurt anything to have it
[18:54] <twisted_g> Unksi: thanks
[18:54] <Unksi> youre welcome
[18:54] <twisted_g> Dragnslcr: freeing up space and trying to clean up this thing so it stops nagging me about autoremove packages (still trying to figure this out)
[18:55] <Dragnslcr> The kernel images don't take up much space, so that shouldn't be an issue
[18:55] <Unksi> twisted_g: using sudo apt-get autoremove will remove them, be careful if theres something you need, though
[18:55] <Dragnslcr> The autoremove nag, I don't know
[18:56] <Oceanwatcher> Wish there were something like this for KDE: http://www.conduit-project.org/
[18:57] <twisted_g> Unksi: my problem is that kubuntu flags the arbest things for autoremoval. eg, i'll install something like k9copy, which auto installs faac (as a dependency) for example, and then afterwards, apt wants to autoremove faac
[18:57] <twisted_g> i just can't figure it out
[18:57] <Unksi> just leave it as is then :)
[18:58] <twisted_g> Unksi: i'm cursed with the nagging habit of needing to know why :-P
[18:58] <Unksi> :D
[18:58] <aga> tsk tsk tsk.. that is a baaaaaaaaaaaad habit twisted_g
[18:58] <Unksi> no idea why it would do that, i havent seen that sort of behaviour so far with autoremove
[18:59] <Unksi> aga: right habit as long as you dont break your system just before you really need it ;p
[18:59] <twisted_g> Unksi: i picked it up firstly with kde meta-packages... couldn't understand why some of my software was being removed when i installed a package.. but apt does it for more than just kde-meta packages
[18:59] <twisted_g> aga: its an annoying habit yet
[18:59] <twisted_g> *yes
[18:59] <aga> Unksi:  i think the times i have learnt the most is fixing what i have previously deep and properly crashed ;D
[19:00] <aga> hmmm not really twisted_g... is called curiosity :D
[19:00] <Unksi> aga: yes, but when you really need to get something done its the worst possible time for that :p
[19:00] <twisted_g> it kills cats no?
[19:00] <Unksi> twisted_g: hmm, do you have any unofficial repositories enabled?
[19:00] <twisted_g> Unksi: have you ever used aptitude?
[19:01] <twisted_g> Unksi: I needed a statistical package named R. other than that, no
[19:01] <Unksi> twisted_g: yes, and i have come to the conclusion that apt-get works better
[19:01] <Unksi> ok
[19:01] <aga> now i am trying to find out why links won't write download a file where i am telling it to
[19:01] <aga> any ideas?
[19:01] <Unksi> file permissions?
[19:01] <aga> it might be, is another partition mounted on home
[19:02] <aga> im checking if it will work in my desktop
[19:02] <aga> which it seems
[19:03] <Unksi> twisted_g: do you use both aptitude and apt-get?
[19:04] <twisted_g> been using adept_manager to date, which was autoremoving "silently". so then moved to apt-* from command line, and at least I can see what its doing (or trying to do now). i just started playing with aptitude
[19:05] <Unksi> ok
[19:11] <solid_liq> !ping
[19:18] <twisted_g> anyone know an apt-get / apt-cache command to see if a package is installed?
[19:21] <solid_liq> !ping
[19:22] <Tm_T> !botabuse > solid_liq
[19:22] <solid_liq> Tm_T: bot abuse?  I wanted to make sure my connection wasn't lagging, which happens sometimes
[19:22] <Tm_T> solid_liq: you can talk to bot in private (:
[19:23] <solid_liq> Tm_T: I never thought about doing so
[19:23] <Tm_T> solid_liq: and what if bot is lagging? really, pinging the bot is not helpful (:
[19:23] <solid_liq> if it responds immediately, then I know I'm not lagged
[19:23] <solid_liq> so it is helpful
[19:24] <Tm_T> solid_liq: what if bot answer after a minute, or not at all? that happens too
[19:24] <solid_liq> then I'll check somewhere else.  either way, pinging it in pm won't do anything about that issue
[19:25] <Tm_T> solid_liq: also most of IRC clients tells their lag too
[19:26] <solid_liq> mine's irssi, but I sometimes get send lag without receive lag, and irssi doesn't tell me anything about that
[19:26] <solid_liq> I've had days where my send buffer lagged by over an hour
[19:26] <solid_liq> that's why I have to check every once in a while, to make sure that's not a problem
[19:26] <Tm_T> true that, familiar to me too (:
[19:26] <solid_liq> I hate when that happens
[19:27] <solid_liq> I don't know why no one's coded an irc client by now that doesn't have problems like that
[19:29] <solid_liq> twisted_g: apt-cache policy package_name
[19:30] <twisted_g> solid_liq: thanks
[19:30] <solid_liq> twisted_g: np
[19:39] <victor__> anybody can help me?
[19:40] <twisted_g> depends on what you need victor__
[19:40] <twisted_g> whats up?
[19:40] <victor__> ok
[19:40] <victor__> it's a long story
[19:40] <aga> dunno victor__ you should state your problem first ;)
[19:40] <victor__> i installed wine and then ares
[19:40] <victor__> then i wanted to unistall it but the fist i did was unistall wine
[19:41] <victor__> so i coulden't delete ares
[19:41] <twisted_g> victor__: try 'ls ~/.wine
[19:41] <twisted_g> victor__: try 'ls ~/.wine'
[19:42] <twisted_g> there should be a drive_c directory
[19:42] <twisted_g> search under there to see if ares was installed in there
[19:42] <victor__> ares isn't installed
[19:42] <victor__> but now i cant deleted the wine folder from the gnome menu
[19:43]  * twisted_g shrugs.. sorry, not using gnome
[19:43] <aga> how did you uninstall victor__?
[19:44] <victor__> sudo
[19:44] <aga> sudo apt-get remove wine?
[19:44] <tsimpson> victor__: then check /root/.wine
[19:45] <aga> i am having a hard time getting the big picture, to be honest
[19:45] <victor__> it's /home/user/.wine
[19:46] <tsimpson> victor__: if you installed something in wine with sudo it'll be in roots home, which is /root
[19:46] <victor__> tsimpson:  /home/user/.wine
[19:46] <aga> let me do a recap.. so you install wine, you install ares, you uninstall wine and the problemis that wine still appears in your menu, right?
[19:46] <victor__> ok lol i'm a begginer aga y'know :P
[19:46] <tsimpson> victor__: if not, then just remove ~/.wine
[19:46] <twisted_g> tsimpson: only if you're running as the user "root"
[19:46] <victor__> and i wont have any problem?
[19:46] <aga> hmm it's not about being a beginner... it's just that i do not get the problem... but i'm after 9h of work so...
[19:47] <aga> if you don't want to see the wine menu, maybe you can try apt-get purge wine
[19:47] <twisted_g> victor__: type this 'cd ~/.wine'
[19:47] <twisted_g> victor__: then type ls -l
[19:47] <aga> that should clean all the config files i think
[19:47] <tsimpson> twisted_g: yep, that's what I said
[19:48] <victor__> tsimpson:
[19:48] <victor__> total 528
[19:48] <victor__> drwxr-xr-x 2 victor victor   4096 2009-04-06 17:44 dosdevices
[19:48] <victor__> drwxr-xr-x 5 victor victor   4096 2009-04-06 17:44 drive_c
[19:48] <victor__> -rw-r--r-- 1 victor victor<PHONE_NUMBER>-04-06 19:33 system.reg
[19:48] <victor__> -rw-r--r-- 1 victor victor   2350 2009-04-06 19:33 userdef.reg
[19:48] <victor__> -rw-r--r-- 1 victor victor  23127 2009-04-06 19:33 user.reg
[19:48] <aga> pastebinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[19:48] <tsimpson> aga: probably not, wine will put stuff in ~/ and apt/dpkg never touch ~
[19:48] <tsimpson> !paste > victor__
[19:48] <aga> dunno never used wine to be honest
[19:48] <aga> just a guess
[19:49] <victor__> sorry for the flood
[19:49] <victor__> :$
[19:49] <tsimpson> ~/.local/share/applications/wine/ is where wine seems to make menu entries
[19:49] <aga> victor__:  http://pastebin.org
[19:49] <victor__> aga:  yeah i read the private ;)
[19:53] <rast_> Hi all!
[19:53] <Unksi> hi rast_
[19:53] <rast_> rfr ltkf nen ldb;encz&
[19:53] <rast_> как дела тут движутся))
[19:54] <aga> !ru
[19:54] <aga> i think
[19:54] <aga> and hi rast_
[19:54] <aga> i have this feeling i need to mess something in the computer
[19:54] <aga> i just dunno why
[19:54] <aga> -.-
[19:55] <twisted_g> you need to eh?
[19:55] <rast_> Ыыыыы
[19:55] <twisted_g> nuke your pc for fun?
[19:56] <aga> yeah twisted_g
[19:56] <aga> is like a... weird feeling in the tip of my fingers
[19:56] <twisted_g> nuking my pc is a hobby
[19:56] <aga> i start thinking on stuff i would like to do... but right now nothing comes to my mind
[19:57] <aga> just feel i need to do 'something'
[20:02] <jeltsch> I use Kubuntu 9.04 beta (KDE 4.2.2). Where do I import SSL certificates?
[20:02] <jeltsch> For KDE.
[20:02] <Unksi> !jaunty
[20:03] <jeltsch> You mean I should ask in #ubuntu+1?
[20:03] <Unksi> for jaunty, yes
[20:03] <jeltsch> Is it different from KDE 4.1 which is in Intrepid?
[20:04] <jeltsch> After all, it’s more of a KDE question than a Kubuntu-specific one.
[20:04] <tsimpson> yes, it's 4.2
[20:04] <Unksi> yes
[20:04] <tsimpson> if it's just a KDE question, you can ask in #kde too
[20:04] <jeltsch> I don’t mean if Jaunty’s KDE is different but if SSL configuration is different.
[20:05] <jeltsch> And the #ubuntu+1 channel is also for *K*ubuntu?
[20:05] <Unksi> no idea where you can do that in either for me :p
[20:05] <Unksi> jeltsch: everything that is going to be released as jaunty
[20:05] <jeltsch> Okay, I’ve asked in #ubuntu+1.
[20:13] <keisangi> hi there
[20:14] <kaddi> !hi |keisangi
[20:14] <keisangi> on kde4.2.2 i notice the panel disappear after a while.. i guess it crashed
[20:14] <keisangi> how can i relaunch it ?
[20:14] <keisangi> it's the 3rd time today
[20:15] <keisangi> idont want to logout just for the panel ..
[20:15] <Unksi> keisangi: does pressing alt+f2, writing plasma and pressing enter help?
[20:15] <keisangi> i try
[20:15] <starenka> hi, what's grub 22 error? i upgraded 8.04 to 9;04 and crashed into this, tried find root, etc etc, but still 22
[20:15] <keisangi> Unksi: no
[20:16] <keisangi> it didn't change a thing ..
[20:16] <aga> hey guys.. i remember with apt-cache search there was an option that displayed package name and whether if it was installed or not
[20:16] <Unksi> hmm, do alt+f2 and write konsole and press enter
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> keisangi: try killall plasma in konsole, then alt+f2 to rerun plasma
[20:16] <aga> i just dont remember which one... anyone here does?
[20:16] <keisangi> i try
[20:17] <Unksi> and do what ActionParsnip said :p
[20:17] <tsimpson> "kquitapp" FTW
[20:17] <aga> it is my classic problem with the commands i remember something does something
[20:18] <keisangi> ActionParsnip: ok, itworked, thanks for the help :)
[20:18] <tsimpson> kquitapp plasma ; sleep 1 ; kdeinit4_wrapper plasma
[20:18] <twisted_g> its like that movie i like with that girl who was in that other movie about the thing
[20:18] <aga> kind of hehe
[20:19] <aga> i remember there was a way to check which packages where installed from the terminal, with apt-cache... problem is how
[20:19] <aga> some funny letter there, for sure :D
[20:19] <tsimpson> dpkg -l
[20:19] <m4v> man apt-cahce
[20:19] <m4v> cache*
[20:20] <tsimpson> apt-cache policy <package>
[20:20] <aga> m4v:  i hate the man pages... all the ones i have found are a piece of art
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> np man
[20:20] <tsimpson> "aptitude why <package>" is nice too
[20:20] <aga> hmm no tsimpson it was just a list.....
[20:20] <aga> like when you make apt-cache search firefox and appear a lot of stuff... just with an i next to the package name if it was installed
[20:21] <tsimpson> probably aptitude search ...
[20:21] <aga> iai!!!
[20:21] <aga> that was it tsimpson
[20:21] <aga> :D thanks!!!
[20:22] <tsimpson> 10 ways to do 1 thing, that's the UNIX way
[20:22] <aga> yeah the problem is when you are looking for the 1 you want to ;p and only that one
[20:22] <aga> then... is difficult
[20:24] <tsimpson> read manpages :) or use man:/ in konqueror for a nicer interface
[20:24] <tsimpson> eg man:/aptitude
[20:24] <twisted_g> ive been battling with this forever
[20:24] <twisted_g> why can't a tool from one package give all the answers?
[20:24] <twisted_g> aptitude for this... apt-get for that
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> twisted_g: you can use either you like
[20:25] <twisted_g> ActionParsnip: my point is, the query aga just made
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> twisted_g: some people just prefer one to the other, you can uninstall aptitude if you prefer apt-get
[20:25] <aga> twisted_g:  as i said i think apt-get also does it
[20:25] <tsimpson> apt-get and aptitude are just frontends to dpkg
[20:25] <aga> i just cannot remember the way to do it with apt-get
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> apt-cache search <something>
[20:26] <aga> ActionParsnip:  yes, but there was a way, some options on apt-get that added the (i) in the list if the package was already installed
[20:26] <aga> like -a or whatever, i cant remember what
[20:26] <aga> we found it with aptitude... but it needs to be in apt also
[20:27] <aga> and i know i got it once, i just cannot remember how
[20:27] <jmarek> Hello everybody...
[20:27] <aga> hey jmarek
[20:29] <jmarek> I have problems, when I tried to update my Ubuntu jaunty: server with IP <IP_ADDRESS> and even <IP_ADDRESS> freeze my connection and tshark show me, that my computer tried TCP retransmission...
[20:29] <Pici> jmarek: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[20:30] <jmarek> Pici: OK, thanks
[20:32] <heinkel_111> !nvidia
[20:41] <replman> Hi! For my external harddisk i would like that by connecting the drive (usb) it should be automatically mounted to /media/backup. I wrote an udev-rule: http://pastebin.com/m6487afd
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> replman: add an entry to /etc/fstab
[20:42] <replman> after connecting the drive is at /dev/backup and /dev/.udev/names/backup, so the rule seems to work. But i don't get the next step...automatically mount to /media/backup
[20:43] <replman> ActionParsnip: does the drive get automounted then or do i have to do a manual "mount /dev/backup"?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> replman: if its attached at boot, yes, if not, sudo mount -a wil mount it
[20:45] <replman> ActionParsnip: that's exactly what i want to be done automatically, the mount-command
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> they usually automount as far as i know
[20:46] <Xcell> I am using konversation..what i am looking for is the line seperator between nics and conversation like xchat does...is this possible?
[20:48] <tsimpson> Xcell: try asking in #konversation
[20:48] <Xcell> ok thanks
[20:52] <sylvar> Hi all.  I've got kubuntu intrepid 64bit and I'm having trouble with the ALC888 onboard audio. I've got my headphones plugged into the front jack, and I can hear the startup/shutdown sounds with no problem -- but YouTube, VLC, etc. aren't playing sound that I can hear.  I've added myself to the 'audio' group in /etc/group and I've even rebooted after that, and that didn't work.  What would my next step be?
[20:52] <boboso> how would I download a file over a ssh connection?
[20:53] <sylvar> boboso: scp
[20:56] <twisted_g> boboso: scp
[20:57] <twisted_g> boboso: the syntax can be a bit tricky, if it gives issues, try using the -x -v etc options in the same order and place as the scp --help command suggests
[20:57] <twisted_g> boboso: but scp is how to transfer files over ssh... remember its slower because its encrypted though
[20:58] <tsimpson> you can compress it
[20:58] <tsimpson> scp -C
[20:58] <twisted_g> oooh, nice to know tsimpson :)
[20:58] <twisted_g> i normally scp bz2 files though
[20:59] <tsimpson> I think you can use rsync over ssh too
[21:00] <tsimpson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync#Using%20RSYNC%20with%20SSH%20for%20a%20simple%20backup
[21:00] <twisted_g> rsync... *sigh*
[21:00]  * twisted_g grins
[21:00] <twisted_g> i miss rsync'ing
[21:00] <tsimpson> rsync is good because it can use compression and then only send the delta
[21:00] <twisted_g> ohhhh, i miss deltas even more
[21:02] <boboso> do i type the scp command from the box im on or the one with the file?
[21:03] <twisted_g> boboso: you can do either way
[21:03] <twisted_g> (if i remember correctly)
[21:03] <twisted_g> its like cp
[21:03] <twisted_g> you cp src/file.gz dest/my_file.gz
[21:03] <twisted_g> src and dest will be the hosts you want to use
[21:03] <twisted_g> or, src / dest could be your local box
[21:04] <tsimpson> you scp from the client
[21:04] <tsimpson> it needs the other end to be a ssh server
[21:05] <tsimpson> scp user@host:/path/file /path/file
[21:05] <twisted_g> okay my bad
[21:05] <tsimpson> if both ends have sshd, then it doesn't matter
[21:16] <dvheumen> Is there any package with which I can manage the initrd startup processes? (I want to disable some processes from starting up on boot)
[21:17] <twisted_g> dvheumen: i've been trying to get an answer for that one for a bit
[21:17] <tsimpson> initrd or init?
[21:18] <dvheumen> ow sorry, init.d :P
[21:18] <dvheumen> tsimpson: init
[21:19] <tsimpson> !boot
[21:19] <tsimpson> there was a graphical KDE editor for it, but it doesn't seem to be ported to KDE4
[21:20] <tsimpson> but I use update-rc.d anyway :)
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !info bum
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> tsimpson: do you mean that?
[21:21] <tsimpson> ActionParsnip: no, bum is GTK+
[21:21] <dvheumen> tsimpson: yeah, bum seems nice, I knew about update-rc.d but I'd rather have a graphical interface for the quick enable/disable stuff
[21:22] <dvheumen> tsimpson: thanks, bum seems to be what I was looking for :)
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> I dunno about a decent GUI for it (the one in System Settings doesn't seem to be complete), but it's easy enough to delete the symlinks from /etc/rc*.d
[21:24] <dvheumen> Dragnslcr: yeah i know about deleting the symlinks and about update-rc.d, 'bum' seems like a nice GUI app for this type of configuration
[21:25] <yannick__> hello
[21:25] <lyhana8> info twitter+KDE4 -> choqok : http://choqok.gnufolks.org/
[21:26] <yannick__> is someone here??
[21:26] <twisted_g> hi yannick__
[21:29] <yannick__> hello??
[21:29] <twisted_g> hello
[21:29] <twisted_g> hehe
[21:30] <lyhana8> yannick__: what do you want ? just ask
[21:30] <yannick__> clamav doesnt show his entry in the menu
[21:33] <yannick__> ??
[21:33] <Bsims{fs}> Ok this is annoying my desktop widgets move on their own to try to allign themselves, any idea how to get it to STFU and stay where I put them
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> yannick__: i think its cli only
[21:33] <lyhana8> yannick__: don't know clamav
[21:36] <Lord_Drachenblut> has anyone installed onto a macbook?
[21:36] <Bsims{fs}> Ok this is annoying my desktop widgets move on their own to try to allign themselves, any idea how to get it to STFU and stay where I put them
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Bsims{fs}: do you lock the widgets after you place them?
[21:38] <Bsims{fs}> ActionParsnip: it won't stay in place long enough for me to do that
[21:38] <Bsims{fs}> I want two bloody folder views on my destktop I;'ve had it way for ages
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Bsims{fs}: keep the language PG
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Bsims{fs}: remove then re-add the widget
[21:39] <Bsims{fs}> ActionParsnip: sorry It now decided that I really want them to overlap the two
[21:39] <Bsims{fs}> ActionParsnip: I did, twice
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> not sure they can overlap. never tried. Idont use widgets as they clutter the place up
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> i'm not the best guy to ask
[21:40]  * Bsims{fs} screams it worked for WEEEKS
[21:41] <Bsims{fs}> Surely its not that complicated, its ignoring me when I try to resize the stupid Cursed things too
[21:41] <Bsims{fs}> Buggerit, I am gonna kill X and restart and see if that fixes it
[21:47] <gohmifune> there was a FF extension in the repos that enabled ubuntu commands, does anyone know what it was called?
[21:53] <HamidReza> hello
[21:53] <yoritomo> good evening all
[21:54] <HamidReza> my kppp in kubuntu 8.10 don't detect any modem
[21:54] <HamidReza> but wvdial and pppconfig detect any modem
[21:55] <HamidReza> hekp
[21:55] <HamidReza> help
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[22:01] <rgarcia> could anybody help me how do i access me mobile phone file via USB?
[22:02] <yoritomo> anyone experimented the nvidia driver from "nouveau project" ? #nouveau  http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[22:03] <rgarcia> anybode?
[22:03] <yoritomo> the wiki is not clear nor well organized and i could not install it
[22:04] <yoritomo> rgarcia, is it not reconized as a usb mass storage ?
[22:04] <yoritomo> does not detect as a memory card ?
[22:05] <rgarcia> no...
[22:05] <rgarcia> but the phone is charging...
[22:05] <rgarcia> :(
[22:06] <yoritomo> charging is independant from any computer connection, it is coming from power
[22:06] <twisted_g> rgarcia: i used a package called gprs-connect a while ago, not on kubuntu
[22:06] <twisted_g> you could try it, just have to install it separately
[22:06] <twisted_g> it worked quite well though
[22:06] <yoritomo> when you plug it does it appears as new device on kubuntu?
[22:06] <rgarcia> right..is there in repository?
[22:06] <rgarcia> no..nothing hapens
[22:07] <twisted_g> not in repos no : http://easyconnect.linuxuser.hu/
[22:07] <yoritomo> strange,  because even if no driver found, it should appears on connection if the phone is power on
[22:07] <yoritomo> same like a camera
[22:07] <twisted_g> depends on the phone
[22:08] <rgarcia> nextel pininfarina
[22:08] <yoritomo> are you sure about the compatibility of your cable? some models has same plugs but different wiring diagram
[22:08] <yoritomo> not yet a standard neither unluckily
[22:09] <rgarcia> yes the cable came w/ the cellphone
[22:09] <yoritomo> did you ever try under XP ?
[22:10] <rgarcia> yes win xp works
[22:11] <yoritomo> maybe check on the menu of the phone for external connection
[22:11] <yoritomo> oh ok
[22:11] <yoritomo> then i can't help you sorry, looks like you will need a driver
[22:14] <rgarcia> i will...thanx
[22:20] <DexterF> hi
[22:20] <DexterF>  kdm comes up at 1600x1200@85Hz as supposed to (CRT). Once I gave login creds it goes to 1600x1200@50Hz. kcontrol: only lets me chose 50-56 Hz. when I go sysadmin mode and change the monitor type *again* it lets me chose 85 but at next restart its 50 again. hitting ctrl-alt-+ makes it enter @85 but its bloody annoying. what happens here? I messed with the Xserver but put the old xorg.conf back in place, where lese is defined at
[22:20] <DexterF> which Res
[22:20] <DexterF> and with what settings KDE comes up?
[22:20] <DexterF> sry for the formatting
[22:25] <XenaLinxPrincess> wow! quiet
[22:27] <XenaLinxPrincess> 8-)
[22:29] <XenaLinxPrincess> ciao a tutti
[22:32] <Fox> how conection in br server?
[22:35] <astrobear> can someone help me get java to display jars?
[22:35] <astrobear> i can see the windows, but there are no contents
[22:36] <astrobear> java -jar file.jar = blank window
[22:36] <astrobear> i can see the title of the window
[22:36] <astrobear> that's it
[22:36] <astrobear> i've asked in ##java and they said not to ask about applets, and so far no one has responded in #linux
[22:37] <astrobear> even the 1.6 jar from java.com does the same thing
[22:38] <astrobear> i have the latest driver from nvidia
[22:40] <nahaz> Can anyone say why that my usb mouse and keyboard stop working after i startx
[22:41] <nahaz> I just compiled a new kernel 2.6.29 and it dont work but it still works in <IP_ADDRESS> generic
[22:43] <nahaz> And where is the configuration for mouse and keyboard ? xorg.conf not handling that anymore?
[22:44] <nahaz> 328 user and noone have a clue? Better turn to a debian channel
[22:44] <tsimpson> nahaz: if you're using a custom kernel, try asking in ##linux
[22:45] <tsimpson> we can't possibly support your custom kernels
[22:45] <nahaz> ya but I wonder what file is handling the mouse now?
[22:46] <tsimpson> no file, Xorg dynamically detects it at runtime
[22:46] <tsimpson> as long as the kernel sees it
[22:47] <nahaz> The keybord works in tty
[22:48] <nahaz> and I can use the mouse 2-3 sek before kde4 boot is finished
[22:48] <nahaz> And a dmesg shows that I have mouse and keyboard
[22:49] <tsimpson> then it's some issue with X, try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:50] <nahaz> Yes but original there is no configuration for nither mouse or keyboard in x
[22:50] <nahaz> xorg.conf
[22:51] <tsimpson> if the only change is the kernel, then it's some interaction with Xorg and the kernel
[22:51] <nahaz> My xorg.conf only hold the configuration for nvidia
[22:53] <nahaz> But I have my suspission that hal take care of the usb and keyboard
[22:53] <tsimpson> hal is just an abstraction layer
[22:54] <tsimpson> on top of the kernel, and it's still up to Xorg to look for and use the device properly
[22:54] <nahaz> Ok but were do you configure mouse and keyboard
[22:54] <tsimpson> same place as always afaik
[22:54] <tsimpson> xorg.conf
[22:55] <nahaz> How can my mouse and keybord work when there is no input device for mouse ?
[22:55] <tsimpson> -> Xorg dynamically detects it at runtime
[22:56] <tsimpson> xorg.conf is used for things X can not detect or custom options
[22:57] <nahaz> ok thanks
[22:57] <nahaz> try to change the xorg.conf then
[23:01] <venik> Does anyone know how to use group chat in pidgin?
[23:01] <venik> (using google talk--> jabber)
[23:02] <venik> or xmpp
[23:03] <reagleBRKLN> moved to kde4.2.2 today from 3.5.10, where are the weather and dict widgets?
[23:07] <compilerwriter> anybody here used yugma yet?
[23:08] <reagleBRKLN> not me
[23:09] <JontheEchidna> reagleBRKLN: YOu will want to install kdeplasma-addons
[23:09] <JontheEchidna> oh, and run kbuildsycoca4 from the konsole
[23:10] <JontheEchidna> or alterantively log out/back in
[23:10] <reagleBRKLN> JontheEchidna: perhaps i screwed myself, but i'm running 4.2.2 from ppa
[23:10] <reagleBRKLN> 4.1 was horrible
[23:10] <reagleBRKLN> im using http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ppa/ubuntu
[23:10] <reagleBRKLN> kdeplasma-addons is from 4.1.4 and doesn't like 4.2
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> you need to upgrade kdeplasma-addons to the 4.2.2 version
[23:12] <reagleBRKLN> there is none, that i can see
[23:12] <reagleBRKLN> as seen here: http://rafb.net/p/esAv7r66.html
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> you're right, it's not in the kubuntu-members-kde4 repo
[23:17] <bopferman> Hello, I am running the new beta version of nmap testing for the conficker virus on windows boxes but I am getting an error. |  Conficker: ERROR: Network name not found (required service has crashed)
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> !info kdeplasma-addons
[23:20] <bopferman> Has anyone noticed in recent updates that the Kmenu does not have focus when opening it?  I click on it and start typing but rather than the text going into the search area it is typed in the previously opened window.
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> yeah, it's a known bug
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> and a pretty annoying one at that
[23:23] <bopferman> ok, good to know its being handled
[23:30] <Mr_Grieves|> Hrm, I can't get spellchecking working in openoffice from the intrepid repos
[23:30] <Mr_Grieves|> I can type gibberish and it tells me there are no errors.
[23:31] <Mr_Grieves|> I've tried reinstalling all the language packs, but it's still not working.
[23:31] <Mr_Grieves|> Any idea?
[23:35] <romanov_> hey if I copied the /boot/grub/stage1 file from a distro and put it in my kubuntu one's place, would it mess anything up?
[23:36] <romanov_> coz mine is not working, I cant reinstall grub anymore
[23:37] <victor__> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:37] <victor__> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:37] <victor__> what doi have to do to fix it
[23:38] <victor__> ?
[23:44] <Mr_Grieves|> victor__ -- sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[23:56] <Mr_Grieves|> I guess so...