[09:59] <zzarr> hello! is there a xenial image for the Dragonboard 410c?
[15:27] <curlyears> greets.   May I assume that the folks here can answer queries about ubuntu on Raspberry PiB2?
[15:28] <curlyears> k1l_:  howdy. thanks for pointing this channel out to me
[15:29] <curlyears> does anyone have any idea when ubuntu64 willl be available for the Pi3?
[15:29] <k1l_> just ask and people will answer if they know the answer and are online
[15:30] <k1l_> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-for-raspberry-pi-3/
[15:31] <curlyears> thankjs, k1l_
[15:31] <k1l_> and here there should be the 16.04 releases https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[15:55] <curlyears> cool...downladinfg UbuntuMate 16.04 64 bit now.  Will be ordering my Pi3 next week
[16:00] <curlyears> so, basically, runnung UbuntuMATE 16.04 ON MY Pi3 should be funtionally identical to running it on my desktop, right?
[16:01] <curlyears> functionally
[16:01] <k1l_> but be aware that all packages need to be build for ARM64. which is the case for the ubuntu repos. but not for other 3rd party repos and most PPAs
[16:04] <curlyears> that makes sense.. the binaries are completely different for an ARM-based system
[16:05] <curlyears> do the SDC slots on Pis work correctly with cards with greater than 4GB capacity?
[16:10]  * ogra_ doesnt think there are any arm64 images of ubuntu mate yet
[16:10] <ogra_> the one you can download clearly says it is armhf
[16:11] <curlyears> ogra_ well, the UbuntuMATE website says different, and I have kust downloaded one (can't test it yet, as I haven't yet purchased my Pi3.
[16:11] <ogra_> where exacvtly does it say different ?
[16:12] <curlyears> I hope Pi3 availability is better than Pi0 availability
[16:12] <ogra_> "The image is based on the regular Ubuntu armhf base..."
[16:12] <curlyears> on the home page at theri website
[16:12] <ogra_> is pretty much the first sentence on the download page
[16:12] <curlyears> well, they have a 64 bit download
[16:13] <ogra_> (and yes, you can run the 32bit armhf pi2 image on the pi3)
[16:13] <curlyears> yah, I was aware of thAT BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY.
[16:13] <curlyears> oops
[16:13] <ogra_> i casnt seem to find a 64bit image
[16:15] <curlyears> http://linux.softpedia.com/dyn-postdownload.php/bfaa4f42b861069de24873698c7e486b/5722345f/19557/0/1?tsf=0  <--  oops, not UbuntuMAKE's homepage,, sowwy
[16:16] <curlyears> the button that connects to that is labelled "64 bit version"
[16:16] <ogra_> curlyears, thats only amd64 ... not arm64 ... that wont even boot (and is likely also an iso)
[16:16] <curlyears> yeah, it is an iso.
[16:16] <ogra_> thats not for the pi3
[16:16] <ogra_> and i dont think the bootloader is even ready for 64bit on the pi3 yet
[16:17] <ogra_> (i could be wrong though, it's a while since i checked last)
[16:18] <curlyears> damn, you're right, of course.  I didn't notice that, since I found the button on a page tal;king about Rsdpberry ubuntu
[16:19] <ogra_> take this one https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ ... buut it will be armhf
[16:22] <curlyears> I'll wait for 16.04 64 to be available, since i don't even have a Pi3 yet, thanks
[16:25] <curlyears> well, thanks, all BCNU


[05:29] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: run update and dist-upgrade than let it update packages than try gksudo update-manager -d
[05:29] <gnomefreak> nanonyme: good
[05:30] <Miz> oh
[05:30] <Miz> savvas: You mean like, gdm?
[05:30] <savvas> Miz: yes: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:30] <nanonyme> it's probably available as sources though
[05:30] <Miz> Worth a shot.
[05:30] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: same thing
[05:31] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: you have the right version installed so just make sure evverything is right run update and upgrade or dist-upgrade and it will feed info back to update-manager and you should beable to upgade with that
[05:31] <reverseblade> savvas, we are exactly at the same place we started
[05:31] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: show me a screenshot please.
[05:31] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: till now the only way to upgarde that showed me i can upgrade was: update-manager -d -c
[05:31] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: did you restart update-manager or has it been open the whole time? did you hit the refresh button?
[05:32] <reverseblade> savvas, I rebooted and it fell to fail safe x , and only I could boot with nv and not nvidia and then restricted drivers unchecked and green in use
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: -c is no longer needed
[05:32] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: yes to all.
[05:32] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: restarted
[05:32] <reverseblade> savvas, is there any possibilty that the drivers are broken binarly
[05:32] <savvas> reverseblade: you upgraded from feisty to gutsy right? did you have compiz before?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: and you keep telling me that update-manager wont let you do it that way
[05:32] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: it says all the time: system up to date
[05:32] <reverseblade> savvas, yes. I was using beryl on fiesty and I used compiz on gutsy till the last update
[05:33] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: pastebin your sources.list
[05:33] <gnomefreak> file
[05:33] <savvas> reverseblade: I use the same drivers, i don't think they should be the problem
[05:33] <savvas> give me a sec i'll restart the gdm
[05:33] <reverseblade> savvas, no I donT mean that. May be the downloaded drivers broke at the downloading procedure. why do I get this ELF errors ?
[05:34] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: forgot the location of sources.list
[05:34] <reverseblade> savvas, ok
[05:35] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <Miz> interesting.  If I restart GDM while compiz is running, it goes and blacks out the screen as if I had booted into the regular "GNOME" session.
[05:35] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:36] <Miz> no cold glow, either.  It just plain goes dark.
[05:36] <savvas> reverseblade: I'm out of ideas :\
[05:36] <Miz> I'm tempted to blame the Intel driver.
[05:36] <savvas> if nvidia isn't working..
[05:36] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40070/
[05:36] <jetsaredim> are there any reasonably fast mirrors of the beta isos out there?
[05:37] <Miz> and yet, it doesn't quite make sence that I can --replace metacity and have it work except for the "no mouseclicks" thing.  Or most specifically, no left mouse button.
[05:37] <Miz> ...which defaults to moving the window.
[05:38] <savvas> reverseblade: do you have a separate /home partition? I'd do a format on / partition if I had the same problem, this would definitely clear out it's the package's fault and not the system
[05:38] <reverseblade> savvas, no
[05:38] <reverseblade> savvas, the thing is I am annoyed this x fail safe
[05:38] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: so what do u think?
[05:39] <reverseblade> savvas, I'd like to see an error instead
[05:39] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: give me a minute
[05:39] <Ben_Cs> k
[05:39] <savvas> reverseblade: did you install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com or using the envy application?
[05:40] <reverseblade> savvas, I think from apt  ?
[05:40] <spr0k3t> anyone with a soundblaster audigy, do you have sound back yet?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: run gksudo "update-manager -d"  just like that with the " and tell me exactly what you see what buttons you can push ect..
[05:40] <reverseblade> savvas, for the binary installer  I never used from the nvidia.com
[05:40] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: you didnt use envy ever?
[05:41] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, I used it about 4 months ago when I am on fiesty
[05:41] <savvas> reverseblade: not nvidia-glx, if nvidia-installer was present, then someone installed the ".run" version of the driver from nvidia.com
[05:41] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: 2 buttons: "check" and "close"
[05:41] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: did you reformat pc since that time
[05:41] <reverseblade> savvas, I did
[05:41] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: hit check
[05:41] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, no
[05:41] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: you need to get rid of the modules it built
[05:42] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: envy uses the nvidia.com drivers
[05:42] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: oh, now it shows me upgarde. thanks!
[05:42] <gnomefreak> envy doesnt let you uninstall tham
[05:42] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: yw
[05:42] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, why ? is my current problem related to that ?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: if you are trying to install nvidia drivers from ubuntu they are conflicting with the modules that envy built for you
[05:43] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: our drivers NEED to use our linux-restricted-modules package
[05:43] <KevlarSoul> Routinely
[05:43] <gnomefreak> but nvidia's built ones are still installed
[05:43] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, but nvidia was working on gutsy too . It just broke out with the latest updates
[05:43] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: what updates?
[05:43] <KevlarSoul> I try to use the install disk and it tells me there is a Xfer error 0x40
[05:43] <KevlarSoul> ??
[05:44] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, regular gutsy updates. Bunch of them, including a new kernel
[05:44] <savvas> gnomefreak: can you go on from here? I'm completely exhausted, I tried to help reverseblade to remove the nvidia packages, restart, and install again nvidia-glx-new. It shows him a fail safe error and he has to use the "nv" driver
[05:44] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: i need a list of them, i saw kernel updates like 2-3 days ago and my nvidia is still working fine so i need exact updates to determine this
[05:44] <gnomefreak> savvas: yeah
[05:44] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, I am at your order if I can
[05:45] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, if you can wait half an hour I can even provide you ssh access to my machine if you mind
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ok what nvidia package is installed right now?
[05:45] <john_doe> where can I find out how to get my usb sound card to work. It's in /proc/asound/cards but I can't get any sound through to it.
[05:45] <savvas> reverseblade: really sorry, I have to determine some virus/bacteria in real life :)
[05:45] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, nvidia-glx-new
[05:45] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: i dont need ssh access we can get you fixed with ease
[05:45] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: version?
[05:45] <reverseblade> savvas, thanks for your help
[05:45] <reverseblade> 100.14.11
[05:46] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: let me guess uname -r says you are on -13 kernel?
[05:46] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, exactly
[05:46] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: your drivers are not up to date
[05:46] <gnomefreak> nvidia-glx-new: Installed: 100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-13.6
[05:46] <gnomefreak> thats the version you should have :)
[05:47] <reverseblade> lemme check
[05:47] <john_doe> gnomefreak: how did you get the version number?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> for the kernel you are running. please remove than with apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx-new
[05:47] <gnomefreak> john_doe: thats latest version in gutsy
[05:47] <gnomefreak> 500 http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted Packages
[05:47] <gnomefreak> from that repo :)
[05:47] <john_doe> gnomefreak: ok, but how can one check it?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> john_doe: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new
[05:48] <gnomefreak> or anyother package
[05:48] <reverseblade> gnomefreak,  hang on
[05:48] <gnomefreak> hanging
[05:48] <john_doe> gnomefreak: cool, thanks.   The system was picking up on an old Xgl from 2006 in /usr/local/bin
[05:48] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, http://emperon.googlepages.com/Screenshot-SynapticPackageManager.png
[05:48] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, this is the current status and driver
[05:48] <Miz> Frankenstein-OS lives another day!
[05:48] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new says what version
[05:49] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, 100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-13.6
[05:49] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: ok please remove and --purge that from command i gave above and than re install it
[05:50] <Miz> Well.
[05:50] <Miz> Similar issue.
[05:50] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: are you on -generic or 386 kernel?
[05:50] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, generic
[05:50] <Miz> I can now enable compiz normally, but the mouse is remapped all messed-up like.
[05:50] <elliotjhug> Hi all, (interesting topic change since yesterday). Can anyone tell me if they've had any success installing Lotus Symphony into Gutsy? I keep gettinga  blank install window.
[05:50] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: ok good
[05:50] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, 2.6.22-13-generic
[05:51] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: ok reinstall should do it. if not its more of a bulletproofX issue or a reg. X issue and needs to have a bug writen on it, but this shoud fix it
[05:51] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, I think we had done it with savvas
[05:51] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, this is the output
[05:52] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: yes out put good
[05:52] <savvas> gnomefreak: reverseblade also has some ELF issues, can't remember the errors
[05:52] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, http://monoport.com/5016
[05:52] <reverseblade> these are the ELF issues
[05:52] <gnomefreak> he can like elfs all he wonts not gonna help me here ;)
[05:53] <reverseblade> hehe
[05:53] <savvas> lol
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ah
[05:53] <reverseblade> ok so what's next ?
[05:54] <reverseblade> why it says 100.14.11 where as we are trying to purge 100.14.19 ?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: ok file a bug with all info including that you just gave me its an opengl issue by the looks of it. please file it against xorg.
[05:54] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: because somewhere along the lines it never got replaced correctly
[05:55] <gnomefreak> im willing to bet next kernel update and drivers may fix this issue
[05:55] <gnomefreak> should be a day or so since libc was just upgraded for new kernel
[05:55] <gnomefreak> see the .real is bothering me
[05:56] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: please disable compiz and restart X
[05:56] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, it is already disabled
[05:56] <reverseblade> I haven't enabled it for two days
[05:56] <reverseblade> if you mean setting the visual appearance to none ?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: good ok lets go sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new=100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-13.6
[05:56] <gnomefreak> tell me what it says
[05:57] <cyberfin> afternoon ppl
[05:57] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: yes that is what i mean, and im assuming you restarted X after marking that none?
[05:57] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, yes many times
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ok any output from that command
[05:57] <jetsaredim> are there any relatively fast mirrors serving up the beta isos?
[05:57] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, http://monoport.com/5017
[05:57] <cyberfin> I managed to work around the update problem and my desktop is running gutsy as it should (i hope) but my laptop is still very slow... any references?
[05:57] <cyberfin> plz
[05:57] <gnomefreak> seems like its using the 11 drivers whne it should be using 19
[05:58] <nicuro> Hello i'm using Kubuntu Gutsy and i have a problem with Dolphin. The filter box only aplies to files and not to folders
[05:58] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: what version of libc6 is installed?
[05:58] <cyberfin> just in case... the laptop was runing slow before the update too
[05:58] <spr0k3t> anyone with a soundblaster audigy, do you have sound back yet?
[05:59] <nicuro> does anyone know how to make it work like the search box of konqueror
[05:59] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, 2.6.1-1ubuntu9
[05:59] <Ben_Cs> for some reason the updater is stuck on downloading file 32 of 42. wtf?! can it be that just the gui is stuck?
[05:59] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: this is a major issue here this isnt nvidia drivers
[05:59] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, so what am I to do ?
[05:59] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: it can be please restart it
[06:00] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: can i upgrade from CLI instead?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: file a bug with all info you can including what you gave me and give me the bug number ill see what i can find
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: no
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: you can but dont just restart update-manager
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: most likely its getting stuck on an unofficial package
[06:01] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: will it continue or start over?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: if you restart it and it fails file a bug and attach the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade and give me bug number
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: it will start wher eit needs to it will run through everything it did up until downloading
[06:02] <Ben_Cs> ok
[06:02] <gnomefreak> than it will continue downloading wher eyou left off if it still can
[06:02] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: the files in that dir are important to find out what is wrong
[06:02] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: this time it went through
[06:02] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: remember it has bugs still
[06:03] <Ben_Cs> ok
[06:04] <Ben_Cs> gnomefreak: is the official release date of gutsy is in 10 days?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> Ben_Cs: give or take
[06:04] <gnomefreak> around end of next week
[06:04] <Ben_Cs> cool
[06:05] <Ben_Cs> bbl
[06:06] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/150997
[06:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 150997 in xorg "nvidia driver issues" [Undecided,New]
[06:08] <nate_> has anyone had any problems getting the extra effects enabled on gutsy 7.10 Beta??
[06:08] <Whitor> sorta
[06:08] <spr0k3t> nate_: yup... ati or nvidia?
[06:08] <nate_> ati readon 9700
[06:08] <Whitor> my compiz bags if I have an openGL screensaver enabled
[06:09] <spr0k3t> I keep seeing problems with the 9700 series
[06:09] <nate_> hrmm
[06:10] <Whitor> ATI mobility radeon x1300 here
[06:10] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: ok ty im gonna ask a few people about his
[06:10] <spr0k3t> one of these days I'm going to get sound back.
[06:10] <nate_> when i try to enable it, it says composite extensions not available..is that the error ppl keep getting?
[06:11] <Whitor> no... that sounds like yoiu don't have a gl destop engine running
[06:11] <Whitor> like aiglx or xgl
[06:11] <spr0k3t> nods, sounds like 3d hardware isn't enabled.
[06:11] <RaD|Tz> why don't run gutsy?
[06:11] <Whitor> aiglx ... since you are using ATI ... mostlikely
[06:12] <Whitor> #ubuntu-effects for more compiz specific support
[06:12] <nate_> does that come with gutsy or do i need to dl that package?
[06:12] <Whitor> but generally only for the current supported version
[06:12] <KevlarSoul> I try to use the install disk and it tells me there is a Xfer error 0x40  ??
[06:12] <Whitor> gutsy comes with some form of GL desktop
[06:13] <Whitor> I already had different repos called for an alternate distribution of compiz... I continued to use them
[06:13] <Whitor> In SPM search for Compiz
[06:13] <Whitor> select compiz-fusion-all and install it
[06:14] <Whitor> makes sure you also select Compiz Configuration Manager
[06:14] <Whitor> I don't think its included in the -all meta package
[06:14] <RaD|Tz> anyone having trouble booting new kernel?
[06:14] <nate_> yea i have the compizconfig-settings-manager installed
[06:14] <KevlarSoul> xfer error 0x40?
[06:15] <vegas513> what do i need to do in order to install the restricted ati drivers?
[06:15] <Whitor> good nate_
[06:15] <vegas513> i read something about them being available on gutsy, but other than that...idk
[06:15] <nate_> vegas when i installed gutsy it auto detected my graphics card and installed the necessary packages for it
[06:16] <Whitor> nate_: Have you done a:  compiz --replace
[06:16] <nate_> yes Whitor
[06:16] <vegas513> nate_: not sure it did that for me
[06:16] <Whitor> hold on a sec
[06:16] <Whitor> brb
[06:16] <nate_> k
[06:17] <nate_> vegas513, have you opened your restricted drivers manager?
[06:17] <vegas513> nope
[06:17] <vegas513> where do i go for that, nate_
[06:17] <nate_> System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver manager
[06:18] <vegas513> i don't have anything that says administration...though i'm running kubuntu, if that makes any difference
[06:18] <nate_> ahh i haven't ran kubuntu but it should be alot similiear
[06:19] <nate_> vegas513, just outta curiosity why did u choose kubuntu?
[06:19] <vegas513> i like kde's feel a bit better
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Reaby: ok our dpkg guy is looking at it since dpkg runs the process triggers
[06:19] <nate_> ahh
[06:19] <gnomefreak> he will let me know what to do
[06:19] <gnomefreak> damn nor Reaby
[06:20] <gnomefreak> not
[06:20] <Reaby> :)
[06:20] <gnomefreak> sorry
[06:20] <Reaby> np
[06:21] <vegas513> nate_: don't like kde?
[06:22] <nate_> i like it vegas513 i just prefer gnome
[06:22] <nate_> btw vegas513 try sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:23] <nate_> someone had the same problem as you on ubuntu forums and that was suggested to him
[06:23] <Whitor> I wanted to see if it gave you the option to use an XGL desktop at the login prompt
[06:23] <Whitor> no dice
[06:23] <Whitor> but you can add it
[06:23] <vegas513> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:23] <vegas513> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:23] <nate_> nope nope
[06:24] <vegas513> got those errors when i ran that line
[06:24] <nate_> try takin out sudo
[06:24] <nate_> i threw that part in there
[06:24] <Hobbsee> remove the lock file
[06:24] <Hobbsee> if you're certain nothing else is in it
[06:24] <nate_> altho i think you need it to install that package
[06:26] <vegas513> found the package in adept
[06:26] <vegas513> no worries
[06:26] <nate_> koo
[06:27] <nate_> Whitor, i also read yesterday that with 7.10 alot of xgl has been changed
[06:28] <pi-meson_> If I install gusty on my new machine, will it be easy to upgrade to the final in ~10 days?
[06:28] <nate_> yes
[06:28] <pi-meson_> is the channel topic tongue-in-cheek or not?
[06:29] <Poromenos> Computers can't resolve my gutsy server's hostname, any ideas?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr
[06:29] <gnomefreak> cant believe he lefft
[06:29] <kyled185> does anyone know what version the iwl3945 and the ipw3945 drivers are in Gutsy right now?
[06:30] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: who?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> ummmmmmm
[06:30] <gnomefreak> that guy
[06:30] <KevlarSoul> IF I download the 7.10 beta today will it be different than yesterday?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: reverseblade
[06:30] <KevlarSoul> (where can I find the daily upgrades)
[06:30] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: roger
[06:31] <gnomefreak> i think we got it anyway ;)
[06:31] <Poromenos> When you install ubuntu, can the other computers in the LAN resolve its hostname right away?
[06:32] <holzmodem> hi, the networkmanager spamming my log files with sensless entries, how can i disable it?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> holzmodem: dont think you can
[06:35] <Miz> more concise video (ogg/theora):  http://www.codef0x.org/forum-content/pix/compiz-eats-mouseclicks.ogg
[06:36] <nate_> brb
[06:39] <vegas513> can i mount my ntfs partitions of my hdd?
[06:39] <uga> !ntfs | vegas513
[06:39] <ubotu> vegas513: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:39] <vegas513> i'd kind of like to watch some tv while waiting on some of these downloads and whatnot
[06:40] <vegas513> thanks, uga
[06:40] <WorkingOnWise> is there any known breakage from the latest updates?
[06:42] <ScislaC> does anyone have multimedia keys working in rhythmbox on Gutsy?
[06:43] <vegas513> do you guys recommend anything in particular for media playback in kubuntu/ubntu?
[06:43] <uga> vegas513: mplayer? kaffeine?
[06:44] <Miz> vlc :D
[06:44] <vegas513> uga: thanks...i usually use VLC on winblows, and i was probably going to use that
[06:44] <uga> kaffeine would be nicer if kubuntu guys didn't forget enabling dvb-t support
[06:44] <vegas513> but i'll try the others just to see what they're like
[06:44] <uga> it's the only tool that does nicely scanning etc
[06:44] <vegas513> dvb-t?
[06:44] <uga> digital video broadcasting -terrestrial
[06:45] <uga> just like dvb-s (satellite) but through normal aerials
[06:45] <uga> watching digital tv
[06:45] <uga> oh, it's enabled in gutsy, just not shown by default
[06:45] <uga> nice
[06:45] <vegas513> do you need a tuner card or something?
[06:46] <uga> yes
[06:46] <vegas513> meh...bitmetv.org ftw
[06:46] <uga> heh
[06:46] <vegas513> i HATE commercials
[06:46] <vegas513> the only time i've watched anything with commercials over the last few years was live coverage of something
[06:46] <vegas513> mostly sports or politics
[06:47] <vegas513> i really wish i could get some super cheap cable package that only gave me ESPN, MLB coverage, NFL coverage, NBA coverage, and CNN
[06:47] <uga> I only watch tv once a month or so ;)
[06:47] <vegas513> above and beyond that...nope, not necessary
[06:48] <vegas513> good for you...tv's evil
[06:48] <uga> heh, yes
[06:48] <vegas513> (says the DISH network installation technician)
[06:48] <uga> it's good when one wants to fall asleep though
[06:48] <uga> just tune to any channel, get bored...
[06:48] <vegas513> lol...i go to people's houses and they're like "oh, so do you have a DISH DVR?"
[06:48] <vegas513> i have to stifle laughter
[06:48] <uga> lol
[06:49] <vegas513> no, i don't have a DISH DVR, i have a 10mbit download connection, a 7.5tb fileserver, and an account in good standing on bitmetv.org
[06:49] <vegas513> i win
[06:49] <uga> vegas513: btw, what's that bitmetv thing
[06:49] <vegas513> torrent site
[06:49] <uga> oh lol
[06:49] <vegas513> has EVERYTHING for tv
[06:49] <MTecknology> I'm still trying to figure out how to set it up so I obtain IP's only from specific servers... I know iptables is my answer somehow
[06:50] <Kohvihoor> hello
[06:50] <MTecknology> any tips?
[06:50] <Kohvihoor> i just installed gutsy, but the restriced driver manager says i don't need any restriced drivers
[06:50] <Kohvihoor> but i have radeon 2400 pro
[06:50] <Kohvihoor> i think it needs.
[06:50] <uga> MTecknology: by "specific servers" you mean dns servers?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Kohvihoor: enable all the net repos than open it again
[06:50] <uga> if so, just edit /etc/resolve.conf
[06:51] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: are you talking about dhcp?
[06:51] <uga> resolv.conf, sorry
[06:51] <gnomefreak> Kohvihoor: its a bug in restricted-manager (thought it was fixed already)
[06:51] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, ya
[06:51] <Kohvihoor> i read it from the beta page
[06:51] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: edit the dhcp client conf file.
[06:51] <Kohvihoor> i have enabled repos
[06:51] <Kohvihoor> and i reloaded them
[06:51] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, where is that?
[06:51] <uga> MTecknology: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:52] <Paavo> Just got a new mobo, cpu and memory. Core 2 Quad Q6600, Asus P5K. I'm getting ATA errors in the syslog all the time. Could the ATA controller be broken or could I be missing some configuration?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Kohvihoor: than i would say file a bug on restricted-manager maybe r-m cant get that driver (maybe not in repos)
[06:52] <Kohvihoor> okay
[06:52] <MTecknology> uga, will it be something with 'option domain-name-servers'?
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: nope, that's dns
[06:53] <uga> MTecknology: no idea, I never tuned the dhcp client
[06:53] <MTecknology> #reject <IP_ADDRESS>; ....
[06:53] <Paavo> errors like "ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4060000 action 0x2 frozen" come about once a second, at slightly irregular intervals
[06:53] <MTecknology> maybe something like 'reject *.*.*.*' and 'allow <IP_ADDRESS>' ?
[06:53] <uga> fyrestrtr: that's what I thought he wanted. Filtering out best dns servers
[06:54] <vegas513> bah...adept...sooo...slooooooww
[06:54] <uga> fyrestrtr: from the dhcp given list
[06:54] <panosru> hi, can anyone help me with sound in flash?
[06:55] <Kohvihoor> found the problem
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: you have more than one dhcp server on the same network?
[06:55] <Kohvihoor> drivers in the repos are old
[06:55] <ed_> Hmm, I just booted my laptop this morning, and now my keyboard no longer works in X.  It works in kdm just fine, and my mouse appears to be working fine - but my laptop keyboard, nor a USB keyboard plugged into the laptop do not work in KDE.
[06:56] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, ya - somebody installed something they shouldn't have - happens every semester
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> your sysadmin should discover the issue soon enough ;)
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> unless your network has some rediculous lease length like ... months.
[06:56] <MTecknology> ya.... "should"
[06:56] <ed_> My keyboard will however work in openbox - so it appears to be an issue with KDE not handling my keyboard at all well :-/
[06:57] <MTecknology> idk... something about being on a <IP_ADDRESS> subnet supposedly makes it hard
[06:57] <ed_> I think the problem may be with knetworkmanager - as when I start knetworkmanager from within openbox, my keyboard gets broken again :-/
[06:58] <vegas513> hrm...question...how come when i try to have my wireless card connect via dhcp, it gets a weird ip address assigned
[06:58] <MTecknology> and we have two separate networks that assign identical IP's... i don't remember how it was explained, but it happens frequently
[06:58] <vegas513> like <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:58] <vegas513> completely not in my networks dhcp pool
[06:58] <bazhang> hi vegas513!
[06:58] <WorkingOnWise> i have seen this problem before so it isn't specific to gutsy, but since i'm running gutsy, i'll ask here. I have a laptop with nvidia go 6100 gpu that will never change. There are all kinds of display drivers installed, and when i try to remove the extras, I am given the message that xserver-xorg-all needs to be removed too. I'm no xserver guru, but that sounds bad to do that! How do i remove all those extra drivers and
[06:59] <vegas513> what's up bazhang
[06:59] <vegas513> thanks for your help yesterday, btw
[06:59] <MTecknology> I don't plan on using that dhcp configuration so I can try to track down the system myself
[06:59] <vegas513> i can get back into winblows when i want...not sure if that's a good thing
[06:59] <bazhang> vegas513: still having wireless issues?
[06:59] <vegas513> yup
[07:00] <vegas513> trying to figure that out, now that other issues have been quelled
[07:00] <vegas513> i think i'm going to have to install ndiswrapper to get my other wifi card to work, so i'll be having all sorts of wifi fun
[07:01] <MTecknology> is this an OK configuration? http://pastebin.ca/730895
[07:02] <MTecknology> else i could grab the whole thing
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: why not just assign yourself a static IP on the same net?
[07:04] <WorkingOnWise> vegas513: you having wifi problems on a laptop?
[07:04] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, Then I need to run two "applets" idk what the right term is or what the are, but two different network managers. One for static on this network and then one for roaming anywhere else
[07:04] <vegas513> WorkingOnWise: yea
[07:05] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, I do plan on tracking down the system myself, but I also want to know how to save myself the hassle in the future.
[07:05] <WorkingOnWise> vegas513: fwiw, I bought gigabyte atheros nic for my laptop that works with madwifi. Maybe you can do the same? My laptop came with an rt2400 card, way garbage in linux. The gigabyte card cost me $40 on ebay.
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: just setup two network profiles and switch among them.
[07:08] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, which requires the use of two tools
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> no, just network-manager
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> in gnome
[07:08] <Aishiko> where are debs downloaded from the repos stored on a system?
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> Aishiko: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:09] <vegas513> WorkingOnWise: WorkingOnWiseworkingonwise: eh...i've got a half dozen minipci cards lying around, plus i've got what's in my laptop pus my linksys card...i'd just prefer to use the linksys card because it's an 802.11n card and that's what i run at my house currently
[07:10] <vegas513> oops...didn't mean for it to have inserted your name three times
[07:10] <Aishiko> fyrestrtr: thank you, are they perma stored or are they cleaned out regularly?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> Aishiko: they are permanent, afaik.
[07:10] <uga> Aishiko: my archive shows more than 2500 packages
[07:10] <uga> sooo... not cleaned up
[07:10] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, network-manager doesn't play well with manually configured networks
[07:10] <uga> actually... almost 3k =)
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: sure it does. I have four networks configured there. A static configuration for the office, a dhcp configuration for the house, and a "free for all" for the net cafes :)
[07:11] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, likewise, the other one i'm using doesn't do crap as far as using a roaming profile
[07:11] <Aishiko> ohh OK that is great news
[07:11] <vegas513> !ndiswrapper
[07:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:12] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, either way, that's a solution I don't want to use - i want something that - in the end - will basically be transparent
[07:12] <ed_> How can I downgrade knetworkmanager without loading kde?  Or how can I load a KDE session without knetworkmanager despite it being set to autoload?  I believe that when it loads it kills my keyboard.
[07:12] <ScislaC> does anyone know why multimedia keys would work in totem but not rhythmbox?
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> "that's a solution I don't want to use" -- well, that says it all to me. I guess you should find another solution; that's the only one I know of, other than, of course, proper network management.
[07:13] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, i'm not the admin - i'm a student here
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> volunteer at the IT department ;)
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> that's what I did to fix my uni's network back in the day.
[07:14] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, I've been trying to ask if I'm configuring that dhclient.conf - that's the solution that seems ideal
[07:14] <MTecknology> provided it works correctly
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> the problem is that dhcp client restriction is a function of the dhcp server, not client.
[07:14] <MTecknology> if I understand the part of the file i set up, and it's correct, then that's a perfect solution in my eyes
[07:14] <WorkingOnWise> vegas513: thats the rout i took after realising how poor the drivers were for most wifi cards! I got brain damage on my broadcom in my hp laptop.... didn't want the headache again!
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> but I have not done much tweaking to the file; other than modify some basic client options.
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> man dhclient.conf and see if there is anything there.
[07:15] <MTecknology> fyrestrtr, I'm trying to limit the number of dhcp servers i can grab an ip from
[07:17] <xenol> hello i would like to ask how can i upgrade my feisty to gutsy as stable version is out?
[07:17] <MTecknology> anyway - time to go
[07:18] <bazhang> xenol: it's still in beta; stable/final is on 10/18 or after--how did you plan on upgrading?
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> MTecknology: " The  reject  statement  causes  the  DHCP client to reject offers from servers who use the specified address as a server identifier.
[07:18] <fyrestrtr>        This can be used to avoid being configured by rogue or misconfigured dhcp servers, although it should be a last resort -  better  to
[07:18] <fyrestrtr>        track down the bad DHCP server and fix it.
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> ah crap.
[07:19] <savvas> xenol: when the final is out, yeah, you can use update-manager probably
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> brb
[07:19] <xenol> bazhang: when final version is out
[07:19] <xenol> savvas: and on kubuntu?
[07:19] <savvas> xenol: does kde have an update manager of some sort?
[07:20] <xenol> savvas: adept
[07:20] <Aishiko> xenol: it's due out in 9 days
[07:20] <bazhang> xenol: did you plan on doing a fresh install from the CD, or do it through adept/synaptic/command line?
[07:20] <bazhang> Aishiko: eight!
[07:20] <savvas> i guess adept can be used, no idea
[07:20] <xenol> bazhang: i just installed feisty today after long time
[07:20] <bazhang> haha
[07:20] <bazhang> xenol: wow, cool..
[07:20] <Aishiko> bazhang: 8? I thought it was due out on the 18th not the 17th
[07:21] <bazhang> Aishiko: where I am it is after midnight..haha
[07:21] <xenol> bazhang: do i need to make fresh install in order to have gutsy features like xgl and ntfs writing enabled to reinstall whole system?
[07:21] <xenol> bazhang: whats cool about it ? =o
[07:21] <Aishiko> xenol: no you shouldn't have to do a fresh install
[07:21] <bazhang> xenol: no not at all--you can easily do it throught the internet no problem
[07:21] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, are you Ian Jackson ?
[07:22] <bazhang> xenol: umm just about everything is cool about it--this is a revolutionary distro that will break many hearts in proprietary land..
[07:23] <xenol> bazhang: i used feisty before that too =D
[07:23] <weltall> if i decide to do an install (update from feisty to gutsy) by removing everything o n / except /home and /boot (different partitions) its better a) removing every .configuration folder and file from the home folder b) keeping the home folder as is c) removing only some .configs. is so whose?
[07:24] <weltall> if*
[07:24] <vegas513> my adept manager has been at 12% on "Preparing installation of sun-java6-bin..." for over a half hour...any ideas?
[07:24] <reverseblade> vegas513, yes java sucks :)
[07:25] <Aishiko> weltall: if you go that route, I'd say /home can be left alone but, hte final choice is up to you
[07:25] <bazhang> xenol: see you again.
[07:25] <WorkingOnWise>  I have a laptop with nvidia go 6100 gpu that will never change. There are all kinds of display drivers installed, and when i try to remove the extras, I am given the message that xserver-xorg-all needs to be removed too. I'm no xserver guru, but that sounds bad to do that! How do i remove all those extra drivers and not break the xerver?
[07:25] <DanaG> Odd: if I have a folder with a name something ~ word ~ (2)
[07:25] <weltall> i would lose some new function or whathever by not removing configs? something which was enabled etc...
[07:26] <DanaG> I can't rename it to not have the trailing number and space.
[07:27] <cpoucet> Will cupsys get fixed soon?
[07:27] <savvas> vegas513: i think sun java requires to accept a license
[07:27] <vegas513> and where do i go to do that, savvas?
[07:27] <savvas> vegas513: i don't know about adept, but synaptic has a "view details" or something to see the terminal output
[07:28] <vegas513> i'm looking at that
[07:28] <vegas513> it says it's unpacking sun-java6-bin
[07:28] <vegas513> that's the last thing it's mentioned
[07:29] <savvas> weird
[07:29] <savvas> i know there is a license of something
[07:29] <savvas> try from the terminal
[07:29] <cpoucet> I get an error whenever I try to install cupsys" Chown: cannot access `/var/run/cups': No such file or directory\n dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.3.2-1ubuntu5_386.deb (--unpack):\nsubprocess pre-installation script returned error exist status 1"
[07:29] <savvas> or.. konsole for you :)
[07:30] <dvs01> I noticed a problem.. Setting up the displays on my IBM ThinkPad T61 with the docking station on causes quite a mess, and ends up going into low resolution mode, with the new Screens and Graphics app telling me to set up my display manually.  This never works, despite using correct settings.  However, nvidia-settings is able to set it up properly without any problems.
[07:30] <reverseblade> savvas, yeah I there is something to accept I remember that well
[07:30] <savvas> reverseblade !! what happened after all? not fixed?
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> dvs01: can you post the bug number?
[07:31] <reverseblade> savvas, hey my problem ? well I  am at the same place but Ian requested some more info to diagnose the problem and I reported them as in my bug report
[07:31] <reverseblade> savvas, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/150997
[07:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 150997 in dpkg "nvidia driver issues" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> hmm, seems the ubuntu mirrors are quite loaded.
[07:32] <dvs01> fyrestrtr: i dont know if there is one.. i'm at work and had some issues with the work laptop on the docking station
[07:32] <dvs01> i'd have to give full details at a later time, as i'm working :/
[07:32] <savvas> reverseblade: I think those ELFs where from the nvidia of nvidia.com installation, it's the only explanation I can think of
[07:36] <Jumbalia> In fiesty, whether i install NVIDIA drivers from their website our through the restrcted driver manager, the drivers work fine until I restart, then Xserver cannot load the Nvidia kernel.  I have to restore a backup of xorg.conf.  would gutsy fix my problem?
[07:36] <jo2> just installed gutsy beta and needed some help with initial issues.........anyone there for it?
[07:37] <ScislaC> jo2: what kind of issues?
[07:38] <uga> Jumbalia: that's because you have installed linux-restricted-modules, nvidia-glx etc
[07:38] <uga> Jumbalia: if you install those, then those will be loaded before the nvidia website
[07:38] <jo2> scislac: window headings are excessively large, when i log in the username and password letters are HUGE and mostly not visible in the box (just some outlines), typing in this causes flickering of the letters
[07:38] <uga> and the nvidia ones won't load
[07:39] <uga> Jumbalia: just uninstall those packs, reinstall nvidia, edit and comment out /etc/modules.d/lrm-video lines
[07:39] <uga> and it'll work fine next time you reboot
[07:39] <uga> Jumbalia: that happens because the drivers included in linux-restricted-modules are too old for your gfx card
[07:40] <uga> even on gutsy they are old, unless you install nvidia-new
[07:40] <uga> I haven't yet tested those
[07:40] <Jumbalia> I installed the new nvidia drivers and i get the same error
[07:40] <Jumbalia> from NVIDIA's website
[07:40] <Jumbalia> and it gets the same error
[07:40] <savvas> oh brother
[07:40] <uga> Jumbalia: reread what I said above
[07:40] <savvas> !stages
[07:40] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Kernel gets updated in stages.  If you have the updated kernel, but do not have the corresponding restricted modules, you may be leaving yourself with no X when you reboot.  If you have compiled binary versions of your video driver, eg from the nVidia site, you will need to recompile them for the new kernel.  This is normal, and not a bug.
[07:40] <uga> Jumbalia: uninstall lrm else there's no point on installing nvidia website ones
[07:41] <uga> they won't load until you disable lrm
[07:41] <vegas513> i just restarted and i can't start adept, it keeps saying that adept is in use by something else
[07:41] <Jumbalia> ok
[07:41] <savvas> (lrm = linux restricted modules)
[07:41] <Jumbalia> ubuntu is currently reinstalling, ill try when it is done
[07:41] <uga> savvas: yes, the problem isn't rebuilding the driver though. it's feisty binaries in lrm that are too old
[07:42] <uga> he's possibly got a 8xxx card
[07:42] <uga> same as I had
[07:42] <uga> Jumbalia: okay. Let me know if you run into any trouble
[07:42] <Jumbalia> will do
[07:42] <savvas> ah
[07:42] <savvas> my bad :)
[07:42] <Jumbalia> FYI, i'
[07:42] <savvas> i'?
[07:42] <savvas> :p
[07:43] <Jumbalia> i'm still really new,so bare with me at times
[07:43] <nzero> hey guys  how do i temporerely stop XGL and compiz fusion
[07:43] <savvas> Jumbalia: you're in the right place, but if you're new, you might face problems with beta releases
[07:43] <uga> *buntu should always keep upgrading nvidia drivers in lrm
[07:44] <uga> else there's no point in including those
[07:44] <uga> there will always be hw that those don't work on
[07:44] <Jumbalia> well savvas, so far I've gtten more help in here in the past 10 mintues than i have in the past 3 days in regular ubuntu
[07:44] <vegas513> anybody have any ideas on my adept issue?
[07:44] <Jumbalia> and I was told this was only for gutsy, so I'll upgrade to gutsy :)
[07:44] <DanaG> my bug: bug 112833
[07:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112833 in firefox "[FEISTY]  firefox crashed [@pthread_mutex_lock]  [@??]  with munmap() (dup-of: 94021)" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112833
[07:44] <vegas513> i don't have apt-get doing anything right now...all i have running is konqueror, kopete, and konversation
[07:44] <DanaG> er
[07:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 94021 in flashplugin-nonfree "MASTER firefox crash [with munmap ()]  -- libflashplayer.so " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94021
[07:45] <DanaG> wrong number
[07:45] <nzero> when update manager is updating compiz, xorg, and xgl should i shut those services down
[07:45] <savvas> Jumbalia: well.. welcome to the club :)
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> nzero: no need
[07:45] <nzero> how does it edit the interface with the interface being in use
[07:46] <DanaG> bug 121833
[07:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off between brightness levels during fades, and when on battery or at idle" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121833
[07:46] <jo2> can anyone help me fix/sort out the window headings as they have HUGE lettering and giant icons for minimize, maximize and close buttons
[07:46] <savvas> Jumbalia: FYI, when in gutsy, don't upgrade the found updates immediately, wait for a day before actually doing an upgrade (except for the first time, it should probably give you a load of new updates)
[07:46] <nemik> vegas513: so running apt-get on it's own is OK, it's not locked up by anything?
[07:47] <rhalff> hi when i try the xen kernel in gutsy, it hangs with an timeout waiting for adma idle, someone might know what this could be. In google i can only find an occurance where a cabel is corrupt.
[07:47] <Jumbalia> savvas: ok
[07:47] <Jumbalia> Should I get my nvidia drivers working before I goto gutsy or after
[07:47] <nemik> vegas513: if so then run 'ps -ef | grep adept' and do a 'sudo kill <pid>' where <pid> is the process ID of adept
[07:48] <vegas513> i haven't tried running apt-get yet, just been trying to open adept
[07:48] <vegas513> how do i find the pid of adept
[07:48] <nemik> Jumbalia: after, it has a new kernel so you'll need to do after anyway
[07:48] <savvas> Jumbalia: it shouldn't matter
[07:48] <savvas> exactly, what nemik said :)
[07:48] <nemik> vegas513: read above, the pid is a digit number, the first one
[07:48] <jo2> can anyone help me fix/sort out the window headings as they have HUGE lettering and giant icons for minimize, maximize and close buttons
[07:49] <DanaG> Waiting a day also lets you use better mirrors/
[07:49] <DanaG> SEt the faster mirror first in sources.list, with the official mirror below it.
[07:49] <DanaG> That way, if the first one is up to date, it will be preferred.
[07:49] <soothsayer> Is there a way to 'upgrade' only security updates?
[07:49] <Jumbalia> lol savvas
[07:49] <vegas513> i'm getting this error:
[07:49] <vegas513> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[07:49] <vegas513> Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.
[07:50] <ximal> sup guys
[07:50] <ximal> nice...  All that is automatic
[07:51] <ximal> hey savvas i need to get dvd player working on this laptop..
[07:51] <ximal> i tried installing restricted extras..
[07:51] <nemik> vegas513: if apt-get is working then adept might just be stuck, find it's pid and kill it
[07:51] <ximal> but it's not decoding from an actual rented dvd
[07:52] <ximal> any ideas ?
[07:52] <savvas> ximal: hm... dvds can also be restricted. did you add the repository from medibuntu.org the other day?
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> ximal: enable medibuntu
[07:52] <ximal> just go to the website ?
[07:52] <ximal> or type restricted in the package manager ?
[07:52] <vegas513> how do i find its pid?
[07:52] <ximal> see.. i didn't wanna venture into the deep end and screw up the system..
[07:52] <ximal> right now savvas i'm on my wireless laptop.. i got it to install
[07:53] <savvas> ximal: www.medibuntu.org, they have a "how to" add the repositories
[07:54] <nemik> vegas513: to find pid do 'ps -ef | grep adept' and the one for adept will have a number 4 digits long usually. that is the pid
[07:54] <nemik> or google it
[07:54] <Vinconzo> is there any wiki page where i can read about stuff i can do with compiz fusion?
[07:54] <uga> fyrestrtr: indeed. Why would you want one of those. Send it to me.
[07:54] <ximal> ok
[07:55] <ximal> thanks sav
[07:55] <ximal> afk for a moment
[07:55] <atlef> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[07:55] <savvas> ximal: congrats for the wireless :)
[07:56] <savvas> atlef: it's the same thing
[07:56] <nzero> they need to allow you to add a sound event for the animations in compiz
[07:56] <atlef> did not get anywhere by clikking www.medibuntu.org,
[07:57] <jo2> nemik: adjusting in preferences has no beneficial effect, making bigger or smaller makes it even MORE extreme. its set at 10 under prefs
[07:57] <nemik> nzero: it's annoying enough already without sounds
[07:57] <nzero> ? how
[07:57] <atlef> there was a comma i did not see
[07:57] <nemik> jo2: so what about 20 under prefs? or changing the font itself?
[07:57] <savvas> atlef: yes :p
[07:57] <nzero> the animations are excellent
[07:58] <savvas> atlef: in irssi and terminal it parses it perfectly and makes it clickable :)
[07:58] <nzero> think about making a product kiosk and how those animations flash up your presentation
[07:58] <atlef> not in kvirc
[07:58] <nemik> savvas: ssh + screen + irssi? i have a 'chatbox' just for that ;)
[07:59] <atlef> savvas: but it says for 7.04, so is it safe?
[07:59] <jo2> nemik: size 20 makes it even bigger, different font doesnt help - still large?
[07:59] <nzero> have they fixed log out feature in gutsy yet
[07:59] <ximal> i don't get the reospitory
[07:59] <ximal> at all..
[07:59] <vegas513> adept's working again, thanks guys
[08:00] <savvas> atlef: i believe it is
[08:00] <ximal> http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html is where i am for the dvd reading
[08:00] <up365> Vinconzo, http://wiki.opencompositing.org/Welcome
[08:00] <nemik> jo2: is it a 15" thinkpad?
[08:00] <ximal> but i can't figure out WHAT to download etc
[08:01] <Vinconzo> up365, thx
[08:01] <jo2> nemik: no its a 15.4" wide Compaq
[08:01] <nemik> ximal: i just crawled around the medibuntu site till i found some deb's for it
[08:01] <savvas> ximal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-57a5050d451985de1b87ea87a3ccc1a4895e57d3
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> nzero: what logout feature?
[08:01] <up365> Vinconzo, np enjoy the eyecandy
[08:02] <ximal> im trying to browse the releases
[08:02] <nemik> jo2: not sure then. i heard of some similar issue for 15.4" monitors (esp widescreen) but forget where
[08:02] <savvas> here's the list of the .deb packages: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/
[08:02] <nemik> ^ yea that's the link
[08:03] <jo2> so further advice? what should i do now?
[08:04] <nemik> jo2: try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/141001
[08:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141001 in compiz "Large fonts in window titles" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:04] <ximal> was this the right thing nemik ? http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[08:05] <nemik> ximal: no, i got it off medibuntu site, not vlc's
[08:05] <nemik> it could work, i just never tried
[08:05] <sleepynate> hahaha
[08:05] <sleepynate> nice topic
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> has the next version of ubuntu been named yet?
[08:05] <nemik> something with an h
[08:05] <ximal> not sure.. nemik ...
[08:05] <sleepynate> hoary?
[08:06] <nemik> heroin heron or something
[08:06] <mc44> !hardy
[08:06] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[08:06] <sleepynate> hardy
[08:06] <nemik> lol
[08:06] <savvas> ximal: did you install the amd64 or i386 version?
[08:06] <ximal> i need to try and download it .. because the code from the x64 returned errors when i tried to dkpg it
[08:06] <nemik> ximal: just get the debs off the medibuntu site
[08:06] <bascule> largest bird in the UK the heron
[08:06] <sleepynate> so anyone tried playing with moto4lin in gutsy?
[08:07] <savvas> ximal: 64-bit or 32-bit?
[08:07] <ximal> 64 ;)
[08:07] <ximal> gotta love the 64 bit amd laptop
[08:07] <ximal> lol
[08:07] <savvas> ximal: download http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2-dev_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+b1_i386.deb
[08:08] <savvas> double click on the file then
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> can 32 bit ubuntu handle more than 3 GB of RAM?
[08:08] <savvas> fyrestrtr: can your motherboard handle it?
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> sure
[08:08] <savvas> i think it can
[08:08] <ximal> it's giving me a wrong architecture error savvas
[08:09] <ximal> here .. lemme try something.. brb
[08:09] <savvas> ximal: then you installed the i386 :P
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> I know for vista, you must have 64 bit vista to handle 4 GB of RAM
[08:09] <savvas> ximal: try this one: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2-dev_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+b1_i386.deb
[08:09] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: good your still here
[08:09] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: give me a minute please
[08:09] <ximal> uhh that's the 386 one
[08:09] <ximal> LOL
[08:09] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, ok
[08:09] <Kjellviz> good evening
[08:09] <Kjellviz> i just installed the 7.10 beta
[08:09] <savvas> ximal: you installed a 32-bit version of ubuntu, so it recognises the 32-bit packages
[08:10] <Kjellviz> and ive got some system beeps (like when errormessages popup or i press backspace and there is nothing to delete)
[08:10] <ximal> no i used the 64 bit of amd installation bro
[08:10] <ximal> lol
[08:10] <gnomefreak> ha i found it :)
[08:10] <Kjellviz> im on a notebook, and ive got headset connected
[08:10] <savvas> ximal: go to terminal and type this and tell me what it returns: uname -m
[08:10] <Kjellviz> anyone have any idea where to turn these beeps off ?
[08:11] <savvas> Kjellviz: system > preferences > sound ?
[08:11] <savvas> Kjellviz: disable esd and/or the system beep
[08:11] <ximal> http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.deb
[08:11] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[08:12] <ximal> i just installed that
[08:12] <savvas> ximal: ah ok then, the latest dev was bad then :)
[08:12] <Kjellviz> wont disabling esd disable all my sound ?
[08:12] <ximal> and it's x86_64 so u know
[08:12] <ximal> i have an amd 64 bit athlon 4k+
[08:12] <savvas> Kjellviz: yes, so try only the system beep
[08:13] <jo2> new to linux, i have this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/141001 and need a walkthrought how to solve it
[08:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141001 in compiz "Large fonts in window titles" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:13] <nemik> Kjellviz: no, most stuff runs on alsa not esd
[08:13] <savvas> Kjellviz: you will still be able to listen to mp3s etc
[08:13] <Kjellviz> allright
[08:13] <nemik> jo2: are you running compiz? the fancy cube spinny crap?
[08:13] <Kjellviz> well disabling the system beep did infact disable the system beep :P
[08:13] <savvas> Kjellviz: so.. you're good to go? :p
[08:14] <mikedep333> hey, how do I show pictures in evolution?
[08:14] <ximal> still no luck with the dvdcss
[08:14] <Kjellviz> thanks, sorry for asking such a evident question but ive spent so many hours before trying to solve such easy stuff so when i dint find it asap i found it better to ask ><
[08:14] <savvas> ximal: did you install mplayer?
[08:14] <ximal> what do you have to do to get it to work ? rip the dvd ?
[08:14] <ximal> hmmm lemme check
[08:15] <nemik> ximal: no, you don't have to rip dvd's to watch them
[08:15] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: ok changed source package a few times for your bug. i talked with one of the devels about this and he asked me if there was an envy target so its set for now
[08:15] <mikedep333> nm, it's ctrl+i
[08:15] <ximal> i guess decrypting them removes alot of the crap u have to go through to watch em huh ?
[08:15] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, so ?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: im guessing this means that alberto will take it from here
[08:16] <gnomefreak> give me a few more minutes iwj is still around
[08:16] <bill__> anyone using ubuntu with openvz?
[08:16] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, it really surprizes me that ubuntu devs are personally helping me out. I don't want to waste your time in deed
[08:16] <jo2> nemik: no just did a fresh install........unless its on by default? i dont think so......
[08:16] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: they are personally helping me out :) your case is a weird one
[08:16] <bill__> i have a problem with my init spinning trying to open /dev/console and /dev/log... is there some way to make init not want to open /dev/log ?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> thats why iwj jumped at it :)
[08:16] <nemik> jo2: it is on by default sometimes. do your windows wiggle?
[08:17] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, ok I am waiting here
[08:17] <ximal> wait
[08:17] <ximal> there's actually devs here ?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> ximal: yes
[08:17] <nemik> ximal: yea
[08:17] <ximal> haha i just treat em like normal people reverseblade .... you should too... heh.. appreciate em.. but treat em normal .. right guys ?
[08:17] <ximal> or am i wrong ?
[08:18] <jo2> nemik: they dont wiggle but they do fade in and out i think
[08:18] <ximal> hmmm freezing of system... brb
[08:18] <gnomefreak> ximal: depends what "normal" is for you
[08:18] <reverseblade> ximal, yeah the thing is no matter what I consider canonical's resources are limited. Everyone's sources are limited. Personally helping  each person requires a huge resource. This is why I am astonished
[08:19] <gnomefreak> hes not gonna like this :(
[08:19] <ximal> and we all are that resource reverseblade , hence open source.. each one of us being the compile product of their version of linux ;)
[08:19] <reverseblade> yeah sort of...
[08:20] <nemik> jo2: hmm not sure. go to then preferences and desktop effects and if it's on turn it off then on again
[08:20] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: feel lucky you are the only one that has reported this issue
[08:21] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, hehe okay :)
[08:21] <jo2> nemik: where is that option? which item under system prefs?
[08:21] <ximal> ok.. it wont' open via dvd right click option onthe video screen
[08:21] <ximal> going to try something
[08:21] <ximal> said error opening the video out device guys..
[08:21] <ximal> any idea ?
[08:21] <nemik> jo2: should be called 'Desktop Effects'
[08:21] <bazhang> wow.
[08:21] <nemik> bazhang: yo
[08:21] <bazhang> hey nemik!
[08:22] <jo2> nemik: i have system>prefs>appearance>visual effects?
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> strange, after a fresh install of gutsy, apt is downloading 300 MB of updates, but the version numbers of the debs are the same that came on the cd.
[08:22] <savvas> ximal: did you install the mplayer?
[08:22] <ximal> yes
[08:22] <ximal> it's the one giving me this error
[08:23] <ximal> i wander if i should install power dvd via wine..
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> that won't help
[08:23] <nemik> jo2: yea that sounds right, is it checked? if so uncheck then recheck and see if it fixes it?
[08:23] <ximal> that would work just as well i'm sure.. wouldn't it ? also i gotta know... is it safe to install the current files starting in linux- today savvas ? you warned me.. just wanted to be sure
[08:24] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: to be perfectly honest with you, your bug is set atm so dont go doing this if alberto needs more info from you, but clean install is much better than upgrade, ive done both ~4 times each this cycle and clean install has been great for me. few upgrade fixes that we got in one being envy installed >failed upgrade but that was fixed :)
[08:24] <jo2> nemik: i have none, normal and extra and normal is selected?
[08:24] <savvas> ximal: put in the dvd and go to applications > sound & video > mplayer - right click on the main window > open > play dvd
[08:24] <ximal> yeah savvas .. I get a video out error
[08:24] <savvas> argh
[08:24] <savvas> ok we'll check this out later
[08:25] <savvas> ximal: i think the updates are ok for now
[08:25] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, I can imagine that. But I am reluctant to do a fresh install. After all I cannot format my hard drive every time a new ubuntu is released
[08:25] <ximal> ok ..
[08:25] <nemik> jo2: then select none then normal again
[08:25] <ximal> it's telling me the video out device could not open it
[08:25] <gnomefreak> reverseblade: ok ill be back later i forgot about meeting
[08:25] <ximal> error initializing the select video out device
[08:25] <pvandewyngaerde> i want to remove firefox and keep firefox-3, but them it will also remove yelp, gramps, startupmanager,  why do those last two need firefox ??
[08:25] <ximal> i'm even trying opening the proper vob file that is just the movie itself
[08:26] <ximal> pvandewngaerde have you tried ( sudo synaptic ) yet ? it allows you to unselect single packages...
[08:26] <jo2> nemik: much better thank you. the text im typing in now keeps jumping each time i type in a letter.......any ideas on that?
[08:26] <ximal> or check with just synaptics first...
[08:27] <Kjellviz> just a quick question before i (once again) try to install amarok and break something
[08:27] <pvandewyngaerde> ximal:  im on kubuntu using adept
[08:27] <ximal> that way you don't go all root on yourself and loose firefox all together
[08:27] <Kjellviz> anyone got amarok working fine on 7.10 and did it need tinkering ?
[08:27] <bazhang> Kjellviz: I have it working here..
[08:27] <bill__> anyone working on upstart?
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> reverseblade: just setup a different /home partition.
[08:27] <Kjellviz> bazhang: sweet, and did u just install from repos ?
[08:28] <Kjellviz> no tinkering needed ?
[08:28] <pvandewyngaerde> ximal:   synaptic gives the same thing as adept
[08:28] <nemik> jo2: no clue about that
[08:28] <nemik> off to class, laterz
[08:28] <bazhang> Kjellviz: it came with Kubuntu..
[08:28] <jo2> nemik: does it happen to you?
[08:28] <ximal> ok ... no clue then pvan .. sorry m8... it's just something i go to sometimes..
[08:28] <reverseblade> fyrestrtr, basically you recommend fresh install over upgrade ?
[08:28] <Kjellviz> bazhang: ???
[08:28] <Kjellviz> bazhang: what do you mean came with ubuntu ?
[08:29] <Kjellviz> bazhang: i just instlaled 7.10 and here are no amarok ><
[08:29] <bazhang> Kjellviz: yes? are you using gnome or kde? I got by default witht he kde versionof Ubuntu called Kubuntu..
[08:29] <Aishiko> hey gnomefreak, I've updated my showstopper bug report.
[08:29] <gnomefreak> bug number?
[08:29] <Kjellviz> bazhang: aha, well thats kubuntu heh
[08:29] <Kjellviz> bazhang: amarok is a KDE app
[08:30] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: ohh um let me load up FF to get that
[08:30] <bazhang> Kjellviz: you can get it from the repos I am certain..
[08:30] <Kjellviz> bazhang: and im running ubuntu as mentioned, so ive got gnome
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> reverseblade: for testing betas? Always.
[08:30] <bazhang> Kjellviz: no issues here, and I imagine you won't wither
[08:30] <Kjellviz> bazhang: yes i know, ive done that before on 7.04, and most of the times it wont work =\
[08:30] <bazhang> either ugh
[08:31] <Kjellviz> bazhang: no neither have i had problems as long as im running KDE, but gnome is a whole different story
[08:31] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: 150242
[08:31] <reverseblade> fyrestrtr, I disagree. I also test upgradability issues in a sense. And I am pretty sure this would have happened after the release
[08:31] <nzero> how do i make a application get realtime privilages. anyone mess around jack audio server
[08:31] <gnomefreak> bug 150242
[08:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 150242 in ubuntu "Show stopper in Ubuntu gnome and kde" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/150242
[08:31] <gnomefreak> ty
[08:31] <bazhang> Kjellviz: well if there are any issues, then you can always come back here..
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> reverseblade: well, I have two machines. I test upgrades on one, and on the other, fresh installs.
[08:32] <Jumbalia> Ok, I just finsihed installing ubuntu and upgrading it.  I just realized i'm dumb.  it took 13 reinstalls for me to think of backing up my system.  How do I properly backup my full install?  I have a seperate partition for backing up.  Do I just copy everything?  I know in windows you can't, but I don't know about linux
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> both are thinkpads; so I don't run into many hardware issues.
[08:32] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: your welcome
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> Jumbalia: just backup your /home partition.
[08:33] <pvandewyngaerde> aparantly     gramps depends on yelp and yelp depends on firefox,    so i cant remove  firefox
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> what is yelp?
[08:33] <Jumbalia> I think I'll need more than that.  I had to reinstall last time because I couldnt get a xorg.conf file
[08:33] <nzero> how do i make a application get realtime privilages. anyone mess around jack audio server
[08:33] <Jumbalia> which is not located in /home
[08:33] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: when you ran strace did you stop the app before uploading the strace to LP?
[08:34] <pvandewyngaerde> yelp is a Help browser for GNOME 2
[08:34] <bazhang> fyrestrtr: Help browser for GNOME 2
[08:34] <Pici> halp
[08:34] <nzero> !realtime
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: to get a result you need to stop the app during strace
[08:34] <user_> Sigmatel 9200 CH7 on DELL Inspiron 9400. Will work SPDIF or I must be waith another UPgrade?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: that isnt showing enough info
[08:35] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: no I accessed the log file made after the system stopped, I was unaware of that need it wasn't in the wiki
[08:35] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: im sorry i thought it did say it there
[08:35] <gnomefreak> killing a frozen app should give a few good lines atleast.
[08:36] <user_> I'm trieing 7.10 but I think it's ALSA problem.
[08:36] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: umm it's not a frozen app it is a frozen system whole system frezzes requiring a hotboot
[08:36] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: ah ok
[08:36] <gnomefreak> sorry than that is what you have that should be fine.
[08:37] <gnomefreak> ok ill review it later sometime again and see what i think right now im in a meeting and shortly after im going to clean and rest, i have a long damn week
[08:37] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: thanks :) I did everything you suggested last time we spoke
[08:38] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: I hope your week goes better
[08:38] <gnomefreak> thank you for that
[08:38] <ximal> well
[08:38] <ximal> hmm
[08:38] <Aishiko> your most welcome :)
[08:39] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: you have kubuntu installed?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: if you have gnome and kde installed you have kdm installed right?
[08:39] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: no ubuntu but I added the kde packages
[08:39] <savvas> -14 is out, so hold on tight, a new "my nvidia's not working" wave will be here soon :P
[08:39] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: yes I think I have that one
[08:40] <riotkittie> my nvidia's not working  :|
[08:40] <ximal> lol
[08:40] <savvas> ah, actually this time they included the modules
[08:40] <user_> None knows about ALSA and CH7
[08:40] <ximal> mine is
[08:40] <ximal> on my tower it's working.. muhahahahaha
[08:40] <riotkittie> wait. i dont have a nvidia.  phew! that explains a lot.
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: install kdm if not already and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm than choose kdm from list and reboot see if it still freeze after that. note on bug what you found out with that test
[08:40] <gnomefreak> savvas: its in repos already?
[08:40] <riotkittie> savvas: and you didnt even buy me dinner first :|   <hides>
[08:41] <Aishiko> gnome will do I found that ktorrent in the systemn tray holds off the frezze for several hours
[08:41] <savvas> gnomefreak: it reached the uk repos :)
[08:41] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: im about this try both gnome and kde after changing to kdm please
[08:42] <savvas> riotkittie: ok next time I'll make my special dinner just for you :)
[08:42] <gnomefreak> savvas: ty it was gonna be released tomorrow i guess we pushed harder for ia64 fixes
[08:42] <ximal> how come you have to decrypt a dvd if you legally rented or bought it ?
[08:42] <ximal> i don't get it
[08:42] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: OK I'll do that in the way that causes the creash quickest
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: ty
[08:42] <gnomefreak> ill check on bug in a few hours
[08:42] <savvas> put your hands together for the 64-bit support hehe :)
[08:42] <Aishiko> gnomefreak: this a community were we count on each other :)  I'll have it updated by then :)
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Aishiko: ty
[08:43] <gnomefreak> savvas: this kernel finishes the ia64 issues i think trickling bits into each kernel but this should do it
[08:44] <gnomefreak> hopfully release with -15
[08:44] <savvas> lovely!
[08:44] <gnomefreak> ok gone for now
[08:44] <savvas> tc :)
[08:47] <nzero> hey is there a ubuntu irc for ubuntu studio people
[08:48] <savvas> !studio
[08:48] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://ubuntustudio.org Or visit #ubuntustudio
[08:48] <nzero> cool
[08:50] <Pierre> re
[08:50] <andre> why "DON'T run Gutsy!"?
[08:50] <ximal> hmmm
[08:50] <ximal> go ahead
[08:50] <ximal> run it
[08:50] <ximal> find out
[08:51] <ximal> ;)
[08:51] <sleepynate> bahahaha
[08:51] <sleepynate> oh oh
[08:51] <ximal> lol
[08:51] <ximal> lol
[08:51] <sleepynate> it's funny 'cause it's true
[08:51] <andre> ximal: what are you talking about?
[08:51] <ximal> it's the best ubuntu yet if u have time to fix all the issues and configure anything.. same as with any linux distro..
[08:51] <ximal> tha's all we trying to say
[08:51] <sleepynate> it'll be fine in 2 weeks
[08:51] <lerolero> gutsy is awesome
[08:52] <ximal> but prepare to pull up a chair and sit here with us trying to fix it all
[08:52] <sleepynate> i'm sure
[08:52] <ximal> lol
[08:52] <lerolero> running it for weeks.
[08:52] <sleepynate> yea, i'm running it too, but it IS a PITA
[08:52] <lerolero> thought you guys should know that.
[08:52] <lerolero> :~
[08:52] <ximal> i haven't crashed yet... on my laptop and the wireless worked right out of the box..
[08:52] <ximal> just had to enable to proper firmware
[08:52] <lerolero> #ifdef PITA
[08:52] <ximal> other than that.. we're all good in the gutsy hood.. baby
[08:53] <sleepynate> heck, earlier it thought i had a malicious client trying to steal my mouse cursor
[08:53] <sleepynate> lerolero: pain in the keister :)
[08:53] <andre> ximal:  will it be ready for Launch?
[08:53] <ximal> ask the devs.,
[08:53] <ximal> lol
[08:54] <sleepynate> i think here's the real question: as of the 19th do we have to start talking about hardy? :P
[08:54] <savvas> yessir
[08:54] <ximal> hey.. what's going to be new in the newest distro is what i wanna know ?
[08:55] <dvs01> how do i disable cpu frequency scaling?
[08:55] <savvas> ximal: you have the file changes listed in each package in update managet
[08:55] <savvas> *manager
[08:55] <Pierre> little bug on fresh boot (no reboot), the screen light intensity is blinking on my laptop until I restart hal
[08:55] <sleepynate> ximal: i hear they're putting in a free peanut dispenser too
[08:56] <Pierre> happen only on cold start
[08:56] <Pierre> reboot works
[08:58] <ghost> how do I kill a ghosted nick
[08:58] <ghost> and also, how do I copy all my files to another partition?
[08:58] <Aishiko> call the ghostbusters?
[08:59] <ghost> I open the file viewer, I select everything in "/" I goto the other partion, and I cannot paste
[09:02] <databuddy> ghost eh?
[09:02] <databuddy> /msg nickserv ghost nick pass
[09:02] <mzuverink> Anyone else notice that if you log out and then log back in the gnome desktop does not fully load?  As in no wallpaper and nothing works on desktop right mouse click?
[09:02] <databuddy> /ns help ghost
[09:02] <databuddy> mzuverink kill bonobo-activation-server
[09:02] <databuddy> then start nautilus
[09:03] <mzuverink> databuddy, that a filed bug?
[09:03] <databuddy> dunno offhand..
[09:04] <mzuverink> databuddy, I filed one since I did not see anything that looked sim, but I appreciate the tip on the fix, thanks
[09:04] <databuddy> yeah
[09:04] <databuddy> you should be getting a popup saying that
[09:04] <databuddy> might wanna add to the bug :P
[09:04] <mzuverink> databuddy, I do not get a popup
[09:06] <mzuverink> anything sim to kcron for gnome?
[09:06] <hoa3r> does anybody have problems with the latest update to kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.20?
[09:06] <databuddy> gnome-schedule mzuverink
[09:07] <mzuverink> databuddy, you are a pletora of info, thanks again
[09:07] <mzuverink> *plethora
[09:07] <savvas> hence the nick :)
[09:09] <databuddy> lol
[09:11] <ximal> thanks savvas... i'm off now i swear...
[09:11] <ximal> well maybe after one more cig then outta here.. heh..
[09:11] <ximal> going to leave system on to check if it crashes ;)
[09:11] <savvas> hahaha
[09:12] <atlef> does anyone here connect to efnet, can not get in. kvirc 3.2.4
[09:13] <savvas> atlef: 21:12:58 [efnet]  -!- Welcome to the EFNet Internet Relay Chat Network savvas
[09:13] <atlef> 17 th try, and i got in
[09:13] <savvas> ok :)
[09:16] <llutz> ending a x-session (kde-logout) freezes my system in 2 of 3 cases. system is gutsy, updated today on notebook samsung x20, intel 915gm graphics with xorg-driver-intel :(
[09:17] <llutz> weired characters on display, no reaction on keypresses, ssh no longer reachable from outside. total freeze
[09:22] <Assid> dont run gutsy ???
[09:22] <Assid> what happened to the "unless you know what your doing" ?
[09:26] <Nuked> how do I install flash for 64 bit on gutsy?
[09:27] <ximal> well
[09:27] <ximal> i got the dvd to play savvas
[09:27] <ximal> but
[09:27] <ximal> i got no sound
[09:27] <ximal> any way to fix it ?
[09:29] <frostburn> Nuked, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:29] <john_doe> what is the configuration tool provided by nvidia for the nvidia cards called?
[09:29] <frostburn> nvidia-settings ?
[09:30] <Nuked> frostburn: I saw weird things like flasm and I was like, where the heck did flash go
[09:30] <ximal> frostburn : is there a way to test my audio ? i can't get it to work ...
[09:30] <Fringe4> Hello. I'm doing a upgrade from Fiesty to Gutsy beta. It's installing the updates, and it's at a point where it's configuring "libpam0g". It says to review a list of scripts to be restarted, but there is no list, and it appears like it's waiting for me to do something. I tried hitting the Enter key, but that didn't advance it.
[09:31] <frostburn> ximal, gstreamer-properties
[09:31] <john_doe> frostburn: that's it
[09:31] <Fringe4> wait, I got it now.
[09:31] <Fringe4> Sorry for the bother.
[09:32] <Fringe4> It didn't have focus, so my Enter key didn't go to that window.
[09:32] <ximal> no luck frostburn
[09:32] <ximal> hmm
[09:33] <ximal> any idea ?
[09:33] <frostburn> no test sounds with gstreamer?
[09:33] <ximal> no
[09:33] <ximal> no speaker beeps.. nothing.. like when you hold down to many keys either
[09:34] <ximal> it worked the other day
[09:34] <ximal> initial upgrade made sound work the other night
[09:34] <ximal> then i did an upgrade again yesterday by mistake not sure if it was a good idea..
[09:34] <ximal> now i am wandering wtf to do about it..
[09:35] <dvs01> I am getting clicking/popping during music playback.  Audio device: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403] : Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b]  (rev 03)
[09:36] <dvs01> using rhythmbox to play
[09:36] <frostburn> ximal, the kernel modules might not be in yet
[09:36] <Aishiko> OK I've got a question, I booted up and the login screen was too big and I only got the middle of the screen, I fixed the problem after I logged in, however, the login screen remains any way of fixing this?
[09:37] <ximal> meaning ?
[09:37] <Aishiko> where do I change the login screen size/rez
[09:37] <frostburn> !stages |ximal
[09:37] <ubotu> ximal: The Ubuntu Kernel gets updated in stages.  If you have the updated kernel, but do not have the corresponding restricted modules, you may be leaving yourself with no X when you reboot.  If you have compiled binary versions of your video driver, eg from the nVidia site, you will need to recompile them for the new kernel.  This is normal, and not a bug.
[09:37] <mrj> Aishiko, You need to go through your xorg.conf and remove the extra resolutions that you don't use
[09:38] <mrj> Aishiko, I'm assuming at the installer you clicked all reslutions
[09:38] <mrj> reso
[09:38] <frostburn> Aishiko, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:38] <paradizelost> hey all, i just installed gutsy beta, and my window title is like size 30 font
[09:38] <ximal> ok >
[09:38] <ximal> ?
[09:38] <paradizelost> i dropped it down to size 6, and it's still that big
[09:38] <ximal> should i update to the new -14 kernel then ?
[09:38] <Aishiko> thanks off to fix that
[09:38] <paradizelost> on the login screen, text is absolutely huge
[09:38] <paradizelost> any ideas?
[09:39] <ximal> hmm i guess the only way to find out is to dive in and just boot the old kernel if nothing else works eh ?
[09:39] <ximal> in fsact..
[09:39] <ximal> i'll try booting the last kernel.. brb
[09:39] <paradizelost> i had the same issue on my system at home, seems to happen with wide-screen displays
[09:41] <paradizelost> if i set the size to 1, it's what it would be appropriately
[09:43] <rustlerharv> is gutsy that bad now the topic is dont run it
[09:44] <paradizelost> !topic
[09:44] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:44] <paradizelost> lol. didn't realize that. that's funny
[09:44] <reverseblade> when I click the turn off button , I cannot click anything for about 1 minute. Then the quit menu appears
[09:44] <rustlerharv> nice
[09:44] <reverseblade> any ideas ?
[09:45] <rustlerharv> its slow
[09:45] <reverseblade> rustlerharv, wow but this is certainly a bug
[09:45] <rustlerharv> reverseblade: i was just being a smart ass
[09:46] <reverseblade> also hibernate icon do not appear there
[09:50] <darius_> don't run gutsy?
[09:50] <darius_> cause it frickin rocks
[09:51] <rustlerharv> it killed my system twice
[09:51] <rustlerharv> now i can only get to a blue screen and i cant use my network card
[09:51] <riotkittie> no, i dont think its that bad. but maybe the DON'T deters people who really shouldnt be running a beta from... running a beta
[09:51] <paradizelost> install on mine didn't detect windows and put the menu entries in grub, plus the title bar fonts are WAY screwed
[09:51] <databuddy> rustlerharv your hdd is going bad
[09:52] <databuddy> do a deep scan with a utility
[09:52] <paradizelost> agreed riot


[02:39] <jym> Does chromium work on crackle for anyone else?
[08:37] <embden> hi, can somebody tell me what version of qt is available from the repo in 19.04?
[08:57] <mirazi_heket> hello, ubuntu mate "run application" does not autocomplete programs by tab, is it possible to change it? (i need to manually click program or press like 4xtab to switch to it which kills the purpose)
[09:40] <sixwheeledbeast> embden: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qt&searchon=names&suite=disco&section=all
[09:41] <embden> thanks!
[09:44] <sixwheeledbeast> 5.12.2 to answer your question from #mate
[09:46] <sixwheeledbeast> mirazi_heket: there is no tab complete but it will autocomplete as soon as there are no other options
[09:50] <embden> I have a strange feeling that ubuntu mate might be better than mint mate. is it possible? For example, I was trying to upgrade on mint with apt upgrade and it failed.
[09:52] <embden> (I use them in vm right now)
[09:52] <sixwheeledbeast> I am not keen on mint, myself
[19:03] <Gosset> hey, good evening, I have problemes with embedded videos on Twitter...
[19:03] <Gosset> I don't hear anything
[19:03] <Gosset> I'm not hearing the sound


[12:53] <dpm> hey, does anyone know of a way to easily generate a countdown banner to put on developer.ubuntu.com/showdown? Sort of like the release countdown banners
[12:53] <dpm> newz2000, a question for you when you're up later on? ^^
[12:54] <newz2000> dpm: hey. We don't auto generate them, they're hand crafted.
[12:54] <cjohnston> newz2000: the script part..
[12:54] <newz2000> However, there are numerous examples on the wiki pages that have source included
[12:54] <newz2000> oh
[12:54] <newz2000> yes, there is a python script in the source branch...
[12:54]  * newz2000 looks for it
[12:54] <cjohnston> Sure, they would have to create the banners.
[12:55] <newz2000> dpm: lp:ubuntu-website/countdown
[12:56] <newz2000> it is just a cron script that updates symlinks nightly
[12:56] <dpm> excellent, thanks newz2000
[12:56] <newz2000> it is *critical* that it run *after* midnight, not before.
[12:56]  * dpm looks
[12:56] <newz2000> Otherwise you get an off by one error
[12:59] <dpm> thanks
[20:41] <daker-cloud> hi
[20:42] <cjohnston> hey
[20:43] <daker-cloud> wsup man :)
[20:44] <cjohnston> not much.. trying to get some personal stuff done.. did alot of packaging stuff done yesterday trying to get django backported.. have a ton of testing to do now tho


[21:04] <greg-g> cmaloney: just read your blog post from today... <3. clarity is important.
[21:05] <cmaloney> Thank you.
[21:05] <cmaloney> <3


[03:29] <rusman> hi
[03:29] <rusman> long time i used gnome 2
[03:30] <rusman> and now i installed ubuntu 12
[03:30] <rusman> it very slow for my 2 Gz 2 Gb laptop
[03:31] <rusman> is it possible install gnome 2
[03:32] <rusman> for improving performance&
[03:32] <rusman> ?
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> rusman, THere is a gnome fall back that comes with the gnome-shell install which is gnome 3, it is similar to gnome2 which is end of life from gnome. There is also the mate desktop many like, xubuntu and lubuntu.
[03:34] <rusman> wilee-nilee how can i switch os to gnome 3?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> rusman, In the terminal sudo apt-get install gnome-shell then choose it from the gear dropdown at login.
[03:35] <rusman> oh, thanks
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> rusman, You don't want to mess with removing unity though just a heads up, there is a gnome 3 only remix though if you wanted just that.
[03:37] <rusman> i want high performance
[03:37] <rusman> like in ubuntu 10
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> rusman, This website is a good resource for removing whole desktops and installing another, however make sure you are doing it with the correct release, and are prepared for any problems. I have not had any myself, but you would be removing and installing large amounts of stuff at a time, look at the playing around section in the left panel.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[03:44] <rusman> ok
[03:44] <rusman> thank you wilee-nilee
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> rusman, my pleasure.
[05:11] <r4y> For some reason the ip address changed under right click edit connections of Ubuntu
[05:12] <r4y> So deluge was working but stopped then I had to change the ip passthrough option in my nvg510 motorola router
[05:12] <r4y> It's working again now though
[05:14] <r4y> Why perhaps do you think my ip address changed, I thought IP address don't change
[05:14] <r4y> addresses
[05:15] <r4y> 	For some reason the ip address changed under right click edit connections of Ubuntu
[05:15] <r4y> So wrong channel
[05:16] <r4y> It works like a dream at the moment
[05:18] <r4y> Is Sergio the same Sergio from the Myspace group called Linux Geeks from back in the day?
[05:20] <r4y> I ended up changing the upload speed to -1.00 and I saw "100 KiB/s", so I will needto re-adjust it like geirha said to
[05:22] <r4y> For now I will keep it at 50 Kibs instead of 30 because I want to re-upload the Ubuntu oses I had downloaded
[05:23] <r4y> I am pretty happy right now and like I said I am sorry about things this morning. I haven't had much sleep trying to get my head around what to do to fix this
[05:24] <r4y> Plus I've been remodeling our house here
[05:26] <r4y> I think the Sergio I was thinking of is a different guy
[05:26] <r4y> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses
[05:26] <SergioMeneses> me what?
[05:27] <SergioMeneses> I dont have myspace
[05:27] <r4y> OK
[05:27] <r4y> I don't use Facebook
[05:27] <r4y> lol
[05:27] <r4y> My brother does to keep contact with his friends but I am a home body so
[05:28] <r4y> Never had Myspace, OK, I think the guy I was thinking of was in the Army or something
[05:29] <r4y> What do you think about my ip address changing under edit connections?
[05:29] <r4y> I guess I shoudGoogle it
[05:31] <SergioMeneses> r4y, no worries
[05:32] <r4y> I hope I didn't upset anyone here earlier
[05:32] <r4y> I don't want to lose any friends in life
[05:40] <r4y> peepsalot from the deluge channel said r4y, depends on your ISP how often it may change if at all, some offer static IP address as an option for extra cost. otherwise your IP address is assigned via DHCP and may expire at any time.
[05:40] <r4y> My answer back is O, OK
[05:41] <r4y> OK, thank you all again for putting up with me. Bye, I have to go try to do good things, take care all.
[15:56] <IveBeenBit> Can someone tell me how to make a bootable USB drive? I have an ISO file. The "startup disk creator" crashes at the end while installing the bootloader, so something from the terminal would be nice. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10
[21:23] <kevin999> can anyone help me with a bind9 problem - base zone files deleted in error
[21:24] <kevin999> 127.   0.  255. etc


[00:00] <bkerensa> yeah
[00:00] <bkerensa> that was weird
[00:00] <bkerensa> >.<
[00:01] <bazhang> I tried to /remove Like late yesterday, and just +o -o and no action at all
[00:02] <elky> the guy was participating before saying that, you should at least have tried to educate him on the rules first.
[00:03] <elky> is it even porn, or is it "nix porn" like "earth porn"
[00:04] <bkerensa> elky: it was a screenshot of a desktop
[01:27] <bkerensa> .
[01:53] <cprofitt> hey bkerensa
[01:53] <bkerensa> hi cprofitt
[01:53] <cprofitt> replied to the wrong message of yours earlier
[01:53] <cprofitt> :-)
[01:53] <bkerensa> ah?
[01:53] <bkerensa> cprofitt: which was it intended for then?
[01:53] <cprofitt> I corrected it; it was intended for the leadership discussion
[01:54] <bkerensa> cprofitt: ahh
[02:24] <IdleOne> mneptok: I am not sure why the temp comes into play when eating poutine
[02:58] <chu> May I ask why he was banned? (I'm not defending him at all, his incredibly random musings annoy me greatly, but I didn't realise he was banned)
[03:00] <elky> for repeatedly responding to requests to make sense with more nonsense
[03:00] <elky> It's basically like having a resident Chef Brian
[03:00] <chu> Excellent. Doesn't surprise me at all.
[03:01] <elky> the guidelines do state "don't be annoying" ;)
[03:05] <elky> chu, also, it's been building up to a ban for... a long time
[03:08] <chu> I'm just happy someone did it :p
[03:08] <IdleOne> at some point in time you will have to get your hands dirty
[03:08] <IdleOne> better later...
[03:11] <chu> Yeah, I know, I'm putting it off as long as possible >.>
[03:11] <chu> Fortunately, e lky (I didn't want to highlight) is normally on when I am, so I don't need to worry just yet.
[04:06] <sistematico> It has a user using bad word on #ubuntu-br
[04:07] <sistematico> His nickname is JavaNunes
[04:07] <sistematico> Anyone can help?
[07:23] <Mamarok> Sorry, folks, my bouncer went mad
[07:24] <Unit193> Network thing, my session went weird as well.
[07:51] <elky> Mamarok, i don't see sign of it, it might have just been your side
[07:51] <elky> there was a netsplit
[07:51] <Mamarok> well, apparently I must have been flooding some channels, got banned in 2
[21:28] <bazhang> bee and pbot were the same user
[21:28] <IdleOne> yup
[21:31] <bazhang> looks like that Jamie is the long time issue one from that IP range
[21:33] <StaffRingedSeal> !msgthebot > bee
[21:33] <bazhang> seems like jr. high just got out
[22:44] <bazhang> is avis just being totally random there?
[22:46] <bazhang> * [avis] (~identd@pdpc/supporter/student/avis): blackened voodoo
[22:46] <bazhang> he's doing that in multiple channels
 your gufw has security holes all through it
[23:01] <Jordan_U> I'd have already at least quieted them if I weren't busy.
[23:01] <bazhang> martinphone insists on being way past the guidelines in -ot
[23:05] <knome> bazhang, he's pushing it on #x-ot too
[23:06] <bazhang> knome, thats all he does, from what I have seen
[23:06] <knome> yes, i just thought that's his last piece of rope
[23:06] <bazhang> always asking very hot button topical questions re: race, etc
[23:07] <knome> aha. haven't had that kind of problems with him on #x-ot
[23:07] <knome> just some bad language and some really unnecessary comments, mostly somehow relating to thing below the belt