[01:37] <mhall119> wendar: ajmitch: stgraber: if you guys want to be on the upstream targets trello board, please send me your usernames
[01:53] <wendar> mhall119: looks like you already found mine, thanks!
[01:54] <mhall119> :)
[01:55] <ajmitch> mhall119: just<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:56] <mhall119> ajmitch: thanks
[01:57] <ajmitch> thank you
[02:23] <mhall119> thanks everyone for getting the AskUbuntu lens published!
[02:26]  * ajmitch wonders how long before it shows up in the software center
[02:27] <mhall119> I don't know, I've been checking already though ;)
[02:28] <ajmitch> copying across to extras.u.c is automatic but not instant
but I want it nooooowwwww</whine>
[02:30] <ajmitch> sorry :)
[02:30] <mhall119> no you're not
[02:31] <ajmitch> no, I'm impatient as well
[02:31]  * ajmitch saw a couple of other submissions that were nearly 100% there, just some small tweaks to make
[02:32] <ajmitch> they were submitted with most of the files in /opt/extras.ubuntu.com as required, which is great
[02:32] <ajmitch> less patching to do
[02:33] <mhall119> btw, I sent dholbach an MP to fix the vm-lens
[02:33] <mhall119> having them in bzr branches makes that so easy
[02:33] <ajmitch> great, thanks
[18:01] <mhall119> w 25
[20:54] <highvoltage>
[22:20] <ajmitch> highvoltage: I agree
[23:38] <highvoltage> good, having that arguement would've taken us a whole month.


[07:57]  * abogani waves
[07:57] <abogani> apw: Are you around?
[07:58] <RAOF> He's on holiday, isn't he?
[08:04] <jj-afk> yes he is on holiday this week
[08:06] <abogani> Ok Thanks!
[08:22] <diwic> this is just a long shot, but does anybody know if the latest lucid kernel upload (somewhere around 12 - 16 aug?) had something in it which could break ACL permissions?
[08:41]  * smb yawns
[08:42] <ikepanhc> smb: good morning
[08:42] <smb> ikepanhc, good morning
[08:43] <smb> lamont, If you are around: pre6 finally seems one that loves us
[08:44] <ikepanhc> smb: last time we talk about if there are hardy proposed upload, then I can rebase netbook-lpia and wait for 1 week (normally) making sure no big regression..
[08:45] <ikepanhc> smb: I saw you have a security release on hardy last friday.. any suggestion for netbook-lpia branch?
[08:45] <smb> ikepanhc, I would wait with Hardy atm
[08:45] <ikepanhc> smb: atm?
[08:45] <smb> ikepanhc, We are currently (and maybe have by now) to resolve a regression that shows up when using xen
[08:45] <smb> at the moment
[08:46] <ikepanhc> smb: oh....
[08:46] <smb> ikepanhc, I had some proposed uploads there but let the be removed. I guess there will be another security upload to fix things
[09:02] <smb> ikepanhc, "rmadison -asource linux" would show you all versions currently in the archive of the linux source package
[09:02] <ikepanhc> smb: thanks, trying
[09:03] <smb> It can take more arguments for filtering even more, you would need to play around what is best
[09:03] <ikepanhc> smb: I can write a script to record the version string
[09:04] <ikepanhc> smb: if there is any update, I will have the notify
[09:04] <smb> right, that way you won't need to watch it yourself
[09:04] <ikepanhc> smb: great tool, thanks
[09:04] <smb> eh, np. :)
[09:06] <ikepanhc> smb: but it does not show the hardy-proposed, only hardy-update
[09:06] <smb> Because currently the proposed pocket is empty
[09:07] <ikepanhc> smb: oh
[09:07] <ikepanhc> smb: thanks
[09:07] <smb> If there is something in proposed it will show up
[09:07] <ikepanhc> smb: package in proposed will be remove after some time? (guess 1 or 2 weeks)
[09:13] <smb> I am not exactly sure how quickly this is but basically when it is moved to updates.
[11:25] <lamont> smb: pre6 is love. thank you.
[11:55] <lag> What #channel would it be best to ask about video editing?
[12:16] <amitk> lag: #ubuntu to start?
[12:19] <lag> amitk: Done
[12:22] <lag> amitk: It's going well
[12:23]  * lag whistles
[12:24] <amitk> lag: if they haven't kicked you out yet, then I guess it isn't a bad place to start ;)
[12:24] <lag> amitk: Why would they kick me out?
[12:25] <lag> amitk: They can't kick me out, "I am the law" :D
[12:25] <amitk> lag: for being offtopic or something...
[12:25] <amitk> lol
[12:25]  * ogra thought you are the lag
[12:25] <amitk> lag is all the scheduler bugs we have :)
[12:27] <lag> ogra: You were told off for cracking rubbish jokes yesterday in the meeting room!
[12:27] <ogra> hey, i didnt pick your nick :P
[13:00] <lamont> smb: fwiw, osmium is back in the building game, running pre6.  how soon do we get a kernel-nami
[13:00] <lamont> ?
[13:00] <smb> kernel-nami?
[13:01] <lamont> long story.  how soon should we expect to see a new kernel in -updates or so?
[13:01] <amitk> multiple kernel build requests? :)
[13:02] <smb> lamont, That depends on some other tests that John wanted to do with ec2. But when we think this set is good I would assume this gets released as a security update
[13:02] <lamont> smb: cool.  eta on that? or is it "blocked on John, bug him not me"?
[13:04] <Akendo> HI
[13:04] <smb> lamont, Hard to say.  But in the end its the security teams call
[13:04] <smb> So probably today or tomorrow
[13:04] <lamont> \o/
[13:22] <jdstrand> smb, lamont: this should definitely go through -security. a -security update regressed xen, so a -security update should fix it. that said, if you want it to have wider testing, we can build it in such a way as to have it copyable to -security but go through -proposed first
[13:24] <jdstrand> smb: I've done boot and qrt tests for -generic and boot and xen tests on -xen for pre6, and it all seems good
[13:24] <lamont> jdstrand: I'm happy with it, osmium is happy with it, though I'd like to see it finish the current build and start a new one or 3 before going +1 all over it
[13:25] <smb> jdstrand, I think one of the ppa builders is a pretty good testing. The only thing we might want to find out is John mentioning some problems with ec2.  I also seem to fight something but that seems to be related to the phase of the sun, luck and using a desktop install on a laptop
[13:26] <jdstrand> smb: what are you fighting? the network thing?
[13:27] <smb> jdstrand, That (though that was on .73 too) and that this afternoon the boot crashes again in unmap_vmas when doing some hald-addon-dell
[13:27] <smb> Its the same pre6 kernel that seemed to boot yesterday
[13:28] <jdstrand> smb: hmm
[13:29] <jdstrand> smb: was the unmap_vmas crash with -generic or -xen?
[13:29] <smb> jdstrand, That is with xen (when trying to bring up dom0)
[13:30] <jdstrand> smb: but it isn't a reliable crash?
[13:31] <smb> At the moment it seems relatively reliable. Though one of the boots went past it to hang in graphics. I try to go back to .73 and do a few reboots there
[13:37] <smb> jdstrand, Phew, it seems at this time of day even the old .73 kernel crashes
[13:37] <jdstrand> I'll install ubuntu-desktop on my i386 too
[13:37] <jdstrand> oh, well, no regression :) I'd like to test locally too
[13:38] <smb> No it (luckily) seems not
[13:40] <jdstrand> smb: now, if we start building it soonish, I could maybe get it out today. I realize we want jj-afk's input, but we could start building assuming that he will ack it, with the understanding that we would pull it if he nak'd it. otherwise, it would likely be tomorrow. I'm fine with how you want to handle it
[13:42] <smb> jdstrand, I think we are at least quite positive (now that the old one crashes too) to have at least an improvement. I would say we should at least go ahead and initiate the build, even if we have to abort/throw away the builds.
[13:43] <smb> I will go ahead and make a source package for you
[13:44] <jdstrand> smb: that was my thinking. thanks
[13:56] <akgraner> apw, ping
[13:57] <tgardner> akgraner, he's on vacation for another week
[13:57] <ogra> tgardner, hey
[13:57] <akgraner> tgardner, ahhh ok  - my computer over heating again :-(  he told me to let him know if it keeps happening
[13:58] <tgardner> akgraner, hold it under the kitchen tap for awhile. that'll fix it.
[13:58] <tgardner> ogra, whats up?
[13:58] <smb> We normally suggest the fridge...
[13:58] <akgraner> tgardner, hehe I sure it will one way or another ...
[13:58] <ogra> tgardner, will we get the scurity fixes from kees into omap4 ?
[13:59] <ogra> (we discussed that in a call yesterday and i wasnt sure)
[13:59] <tgardner> ogra, I told kees I would do it when I get the 2.6.35 kernel from TI
[13:59] <akgraner> hehehe - I'll poke around with it some more and get everything documented and wait for apw to return them :-)   Thanks tgardner
[13:59] <ogra> ah, perfect
[13:59] <akgraner> s/them/then
[14:08] <smb> jdstrand, chinstrap:~smb/security has some files waiting for you :)
[14:08] <jdstrand> smb: thanks!
[14:11] <boing00> hi
[14:13] <boing00> is it somehow possible to bind all kernel processes to one core?
[14:13] <jk-> boing00: no, they're mostly per-CPU
[14:14] <boing00> yes I found some exist once per core
[14:14] <boing00> no way to not have that?
[14:15] <boing00> is there a realtime patch maybe?
[14:54] <manjo> sconklin, kiss tickets for the san antonio show in sept is around $300 ... pretty expensive
[14:55] <sconklin> huh, I wonder if I could still get access. I know that once in the facility I can get to the dressing rooms, because they still have the same security guys and I know them
[15:16] <smb> jdstrand, So at least running a server install, I get no crash _and_ network. Maybe things there get confused by the fact that network is started by NetworkManager later and has no configuration in the usual places
[15:38] <jdstrand> smb: that sounds totally plausible
[15:38] <jdstrand> smb: so the kernel is building
[15:40] <smb> sounds good. Lets see how jj-afk gets along if he comes on and how lamont feels
[15:47] <jdstrand> smb: also, what do you think about changing the permissions of ~smb/security on chinstrap? the directory is 755, I propse 750, but the group to use is not totally clear. perhaps some kernel-team group? ubuntu-security would need to be added to it though
[15:48] <smb> jdstrand, Doing 750 is simple. But i think that would be ok as none outside should be there
[15:53] <smb> jdstrand, So ok, I made it kernel_devs which you and kees are incidentally already members
[15:54] <jdstrand> smb: sounds perfect
[15:56] <tgardner> smb, sconklin: would one of you review my last Lucid LBM pull request (and get it uploaded). There are some folks waiting on it.
[15:56] <smb> tgardner, I might just have gained a bit of spare time
[15:57] <tgardner> smb, its a total hack (as is most of LBM), but it fixes the atl1c issue
[15:57] <smb> I think I read a bit on it just not the details. Latest atl1c was not recent enough
[15:57] <tgardner> nope
[15:58] <tgardner> bjf[afk], you around yet?
[15:59] <bjf> tgardner: sorry, yes i am
[15:59] <tgardner> we were gonna have a chat about stable stuff, right?
[16:00] <bjf> tgardner: yes, i think sconklin and i are ready
[16:00] <smb> tgardner, Looking only at the packaging change only this looks so much like custom-binaries. And I thought we would be rid of them when hardy goes... :-P
[16:00] <tgardner> smb, I know, ugly as hell
[16:22] <lamont> smb: fwiw, osmium has several builds under its belt at this point with pre6.  +1 from me
[17:08] <jjohansen> smb, jdstrand: when that isn't the networking problem I was having on ec2
[17:09] <smb> jjohansen, We were waiting for your results here, too. Did you have time to look at it again?
[17:09] <jjohansen> smb, jdstrand: I booted server based instances, and instances with the regular kernel would boot, but pre6 would get stuck when they tried to contact ec2-services
[17:09] <jjohansen> smb: not, yet it turned out to be more than a couple hours sleep :)
[17:10] <smb> jjohansen, My problem with network seemed to come from the desktop installation. The server install works good here
[17:10] <jjohansen> smb: I am bundling up the pre security fix kernel for a test now
[17:10] <jjohansen> smb: good to know
[17:10] <jdstrand> networking was solid here as well
[17:10] <smb> My guess is it needs /etc/network/interfaces set up sanely
[17:11] <smb> which is not the case with NetworkManager doing things later
[17:11]  * jjohansen wishes that they would fix network manager to work for console as well
[17:45] <lamont> jjohansen: servers shouldn't need network mangler
[17:46] <jjohansen> lamont: no they shouldn't, but there are cases where desktops fail and networking should just work from the console
[17:48] <lamont> yep
[17:48] <lamont> I would like it if the machine were at least usable remotely before the local user logs in
[17:50] <jjohansen> yeah that is another thing I would like
[17:50] <jjohansen> and I would like wireless to work properly from the console without login too
[18:27] <jjohansen> smb, jdstrand: so the .73 kernel on EC2 is hanging at the same place waiting for ec2-meta data
[18:27] <jjohansen> The kernel definitely boots to that point, and I don't believe the -pre6 kernel is the problem
[18:27] <jdstrand> jjohansen: thanks for testing. I think this means that .75 regressed no more than .77 would on ec2
[18:28] <smb> So again bad but no regresssion after .73
[18:28] <jjohansen> right
[18:28] <jjohansen> so its good to go
[18:28] <jdstrand> smb, jjohansen, lamont: are you guys ok for me to get .77 out then?
[18:28] <smb> ok
[18:28]  * jjohansen needs to figure out what is failing in hardy ec2
[18:28] <jjohansen> jdstrand: ack
[18:29]  * lamont is +1
[18:30] <smb> jdstrand, You, kees and me need probably take some time to think on dapper, jaunty, karmic and lucid (though lucid would get a change through upstream stable as it looks)
[18:32] <jdstrand> smb: sounds fine. kees is traveling today. like we said yesterday, maybe revisit for the next -security update?
[18:36] <smb> jdstrand, That sounds like a plan. We just need to make some decision about how to proceed. In Dapper we likely want the same patches as in Hardy. Lucid would get upstream changes through stable which also include a change to introduce double linked lists in vma structures. This sounds potentially dangerous for Karmic and Jaunty. So maybe we want something in between
[18:36] <jdstrand> smb: ack
[18:37] <jdstrand> I will test the actual builds for hardy after i386 is done. that is likely ~4 hours
[18:38] <lamont> 4 more hours?
[18:38] <smb> jdstrand, Sounds good. I probably will try to be eod at that point today
[18:38] <smb> lamont, Lots of kernels
[18:38] <jdstrand> lamont: there is a fairly good chance I won't get them published tonight do to i386 taking so long and 'real life'. that said, I can pocket copy them to ubuntu-security-proposed or otherwise make them available to you
[18:39] <lamont> jdstrand: I have access to where they're building
[18:39] <jdstrand> oh duh
[18:39] <lamont> being on the team and all
[18:39] <jdstrand> I forgot
[18:39] <jdstrand> hehe
[18:39] <smb> lamont, -rt, -openvz, -xen and the usual -386 and generic and server and virtual....
[18:39] <lamont> mostly as a lurker, to be fair
[18:39] <jdstrand> lamont: well, there you go then :)
[18:40] <jdstrand> smb: just so we are clear-- this was not an ABI bumper, correct?
[18:40] <lamont> jdstrand: you might find better happiness in the future if you manage to nudge the build onto roseapple instead of vernadsky/etc
[18:40] <smb> jdstrand, nope
[18:40] <jdstrand> lamont: I'm not sure how to do that
[18:40] <jdstrand> and by 'not sure' I mean "don't know"
[18:41] <lamont> jdstrand: it involves talking someone into putting i386 on manual and then scoring your build through the roof and then going back to auto
[18:41] <lamont> IOW, fugly pain
[18:42] <jdstrand> heh-- noted
[18:42] <lamont> and should probably only be done when you're totally behind the 8 ball
[18:43] <lamont> and having said that, roseapple joined the game today, after your build started.
[19:21] <slangasek> does anyone here know if the linux-fsl-imx51 kernel package should be kept around for maverick?
[19:21] <slangasek> AFAIK it's not being used for any images this cycle; I'm guessing it should be pruned
[19:22] <slangasek> (the subject has arisen because linux-linaro has just added an imx51 flavor to /its/ builds, and it's all getting to be a few too many kernels, I think)
[19:24] <slangasek> smb: you seem to be the ast uploader of this package (to lucid-security) - do you know or have an opinion?
[19:26] <smb> slangasek, I am not sure about any users here, I would probably ask in mobile and arm. But I would not cry too much if it goes
[19:26] <slangasek> bjf: actually, I see that your kernel meeting notes from yesterday mention fsl-imx51, but I'm not sure how to interpret what's written :)
[19:26] <slangasek> smb: ok
[19:27] <bjf> slangasek: i believe it's just Lucid, we don't have a topic branch for fsl in mav
[19:28] <bjf> slangasek: the meeting notes were referring to on going work in the Lucid fsl banch
[19:28] <bjf> s/banch/branch/
[19:28] <slangasek> bjf: right, the package is automatically carried over to maverick from when the archive opened - and in fact, the version in maverick is missing at least two security updates that are in lucid-updates
[19:28] <slangasek> bjf: oh - I misread the fsl-imx51 header as attached to the line above it, sorry
[19:28] <bjf> slangasek: consensus here seems to be it can be pruned
[19:28] <slangasek> bjf: I was trying to figure out how you would move the mvl-dove branch forward into maverick frsl-imx51! :)
[19:29] <slangasek> bjf: great; I'll double-check with #ubuntu-arm and then do the needful
[19:29] <bjf> slangasek: very carefully
[19:29] <slangasek> bjf, smb: thanks
[19:39]  * smb is out
[20:00]  * ogasawara lunch
[21:05]  * jjohansen -> lunch
[23:16] <lamont> woot!  kernel bulids finished.. <-- jdstrand
[23:16] <lamont> even ia64 :-p
[23:18] <jdstrand> I unfortunately have to leave in 10 minutes...


[17:47] <noos_> hello, big problem after kernel update, updtae finished, but i didnt restart, now system hang, and i get "Operating System not found" on Ubuntu 12.04 , any help, PLEASE...
[17:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> Is it a win 8 laptop that you are working on?
[17:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> With EFI?
[17:48] <Unit193> You can try boot-repair, I'd think.
[17:50] <noos_> strange now it boots again, i hope now my pass works, this is not the problem laptop, but another one.... all i did is looking @ the boot sequence
[17:53] <noos_> yupp, works, well i also "saved and exited " in bios
[17:53] <noos_> this is unexplainable
[17:57] <noos_> and i am happy. thx for reading this.
[17:57] <noos_> could this issue be due to too many kernel grubs which use to much space iin the boot partition<?
[17:58] <Unit193> In theory, if it can't generate the initrd, but grub I'd think would still come up.
[17:59] <noos_> well it did now....
[18:00] <noos_> i unistall old kernel grubs manually from time to time, after egtting a message from system update once
[18:01] <noos_> well anyway muchas gracias, tak, aligato, and goodbye =D
[18:02] <Unit193> Adios.


[00:48] <NewGnuGuy> I'd like to use the default Xubuntu icons in Debian. The icons come from Elementary OS, right? Are they packaged upstream in Debian?
[00:50] <Unit193> elementary-xfce-icon-theme isn't in Debian, no.  They're from the Shimmer project.
[00:51] <Unit193> http://bugs.debian.org/729816
[00:56] <Unit193> NewGnuGuy: Personally, I don't reeeeally want to maintain it in Debian, but I'd assist getting it there if Sean wanted to. :>
[00:56] <Unit193> (Subtle hint.)
[00:58] <NewGnuGuy> Who is Sean?
[00:58] <Unit193> He's an Xubuntu dev.
[00:59] <NewGnuGuy> ah
[09:36] <sima> any way to move volume indicator to somewhere elste then in top-right corner? It displays itself over real volume settings, interfering wit setting up volume, by obscuring visibility
[09:40] <flocculant> sima: set panel preferences - you can move things around - you can make it shorter as well
[09:42] <sima> I am thinking about that thing that displays volume, while changing it. it is not a part of the panel
[09:43] <sima> I dont' want to move volume on the panel, I want to move that volume indivating overlay that appears on screen, while changing volume
[10:26] <hotdogg> Hello! I'd like to ask if it's safe to delete the folders inside the home directory, or at least make all of them lowercase for development reasons.
[10:30] <knome> you can delete the non-dot-starting files without any issues
[10:32] <hotdogg> Including the Desktop? Or is that not included?
[10:33] <sima> radili smo strane 1-5 i nesto posle i 9
[10:33] <sima> sorry wrong window.
[10:34] <hotdogg> It's fine, dude. Or gal.
[10:37] <knome> hotdogg, i'd suggest checking out ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[10:39] <hotdogg> thanks for the help
[10:39] <hotdogg> but really, i think what I want is to make all folders lowercase for web development
[10:40] <knome> you can do that too
[10:42] <hotdogg> thanks!
[10:53] <flocculant> sima: that's just where notifications are by default - you can change the position - settings manager - notifications
[10:55] <flocculant> sima: alternatively - you can tell notifications to ignore volume (at least you can with current notifications)
[20:18] <sima> I sometimes can't open file manager / thunar
[20:18] <sima> i opens later several windows but kind of lags opening it
[20:18] <sima> it's after I mounted NFS share
[20:18] <sima> and now windows ar enot responding
[20:19] <sima> and pkill thunar and now it works


[17:25] <pavlushka> o/ zaki
[17:25] <zaki> hey pavlushka
[17:25] <pavlushka> zaki: is any rain there?
[17:25] <zaki> yess, from last night
[17:25] <zaki> and today evening
[17:26] <zaki> how is it there?
[17:26] <zaki> and how are you doing ?
[17:26] <pavlushka> zaki: scorching hot with no clouds
[17:27] <pavlushka> zaki: The Sun is burning it all up here
[17:29] <zaki> গরু কেনা হইসে?
[17:32] <pavlushka> zaki: না
[20:04] <pavlushka> zaki: watching The Coors (specially Caroline the Drummer) and The Cranberries (Dolores O'Riordan)
[20:06] <zaki> wow
[20:06] <zaki> Dolores O'Riordan died few months ago
[20:07] <pavlushka> zaki: hmm
[20:08] <pavlushka> zaki: when you sleep, you are half dead and when somebody goes away, they are alive in your memory.
[20:08] <zaki> yes.
[20:10] <zaki> but Dolores O'Riordan from The Cranberries?? you are saying coors
[20:10] <pavlushka> zaki: pavlushka> zaki: watching The Coors (specially Caroline the Drummer) and The Cranberries (Dolores O'Riordan)
[20:11] <zaki> I was reading about world war II causalities
[20:11] <zaki> oh, missed that 2nd one
[20:11] <pavlushka> zaki: and also my typo,its The corrs not coors
[20:12] <pavlushka> ;)
[20:15] <zaki> pavlushka, good night :)


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[10:14] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: How to launch IoT devices – Part 1: Why it takes so long @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/iot-devices-pt1-problems
[15:03] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Why you should upgrade Windows 7 to Ubuntu @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/why-you-should-upgrade-windows-7-to-ubuntu
[16:07] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Jonathan Riddell: Zanshin 0.5.71 @ https://jriddell.org/2020/01/14/zanshin-0-5-71/
[17:24] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Kubernetes: a secure, flexible and automated edge for IoT developers @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/kubernetes-a-secure-flexible-and-automated-edge-for-iot-developers
[18:51] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu is Making Changes to its Appearance for 20.04 @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=160298 (by Joey Sneddon)
[21:35] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: New Ubuntu Theme in Development for 20.04 @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/new-ubuntu-theme-in-development-for-20-04


[09:44] <benonsoftware> Question: Do I have to have good knowledge at a programming language to be a MOTU?
[09:48] <tumbleweed> benonsoftware: no
[09:49] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: Thanks, that lets me let of some steam :)
[09:52] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: Do you know how to install a egg file?
[09:56] <tumbleweed> benonsoftware: yes, and you probably don't want to. eggs aren't the preferred source distribution form for python.
[09:57] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: Can you please tell me? :)
[09:57] <tumbleweed> first of all, don't install it system-wide, install it in a virtualenv
[09:58] <benonsoftware> Yep
[09:58] <tumbleweed> then you can install it with pip / easy_install (don't remember if pip can install eggs)
[10:00] <benonsoftware> Ok
[10:07] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: Do I have to know any to be a MOTU?
[10:10] <tumbleweed> yes, but you'll learn most of what you need to know along the way
[10:11] <benonsoftware> Ok
[10:12]  * benonsoftware is finally understanding the guide 500 times later
[10:48] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: What should I do after I have read the Getting Started guide?
[10:49] <tumbleweed> how about: find a bitesize bug on harvest and try to fix it?
[10:49] <benonsoftware> Ok
[10:50] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: What is the harvest URL again?
[10:52] <benonsoftware> Found it
[10:55] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: What bug should I choose in Harvest?
[10:59] <benonsoftware> See you
[10:59] <tumbleweed> something that interests you. And I'm off to lunch, no need to ask me specifically, an answer from anyone will do :)
[10:59] <tumbleweed> meh. He should lurk
[12:56] <OwaisL> Hi everyone, does anyone have any idea about when/if this webkitgtk  patch will be included in oneiric? https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45395
[14:28] <stlsaint> is the mentor program dead or not?
[14:28] <tumbleweed> stlsaint: it's dead. But feel free to ask questions here
[14:31] <hakermania> ouao
[14:32] <hakermania> I'm talking to you through finch :D
[14:32] <hakermania> inside a Guake terminal LOL
[21:29] <stlsaint> would anyone mind taking a look at my piuparts build log on a failed test: http://paste.debian.net/124625/


[08:39] <jk^> how to view the capacity of an usb drive?
[08:39] <tsimonq2> df -h
[08:39] <tsimonq2> or
[08:39] <tsimonq2> sudo fdisk -l
[08:40] <tsimonq2> Otherwise you can use GParted or gnome-disks
[08:42] <jk^> pcmanfm? doesn't tell me that?
[08:42] <jk^> pcmanfm? doesn't it tell me that?
[08:42] <jk^> i like gui way :|
[08:42] <tsimonq2> Don't think so, but it's a nice feature request for PCManFM-Qt ;)
[08:43] <jk^> have i to donwload gparted?
[08:44] <tsimonq2> Quite possibly.
[10:34] <George> Hi there,  I recently install Lubuntu on an old PC.  It was working fine, then I stupidly disconnected the ethernet network connection.  Now I can't get it back.  I'm totally new to linux.  I've tried using the terminal to access the network manager and changing managed=false to managed=true, but I don't know how to save it from there.  Help please.
[11:24] <Skylinestar> hello everyone. this is my first time in this irc
[11:25] <Skylinestar> I have a question. My Lubuntu keeps going to the lockscreen after a few minutes of inactivity. How do I disable this?
[11:26] <Skylinestar> In XFCE Power Manager > System > System Power Saving, When Inactive for is set to Never
[11:29] <egy> yes Skylinestar it's in xfce power manager iirc
[11:33] <Skylinestar> egy, already set
[11:37] <Skylinestar> What is Light Locker? There's also an auto lock session for this option
[18:25] <alexandros> hello
[18:26] <wxl> morning
[19:46] <alexandros> i have lubuntu and i am trying to upgrade it in last version
[19:47] <alexandros> 14.04 but stopped before finish and in terminal says that xscreensaver and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrading One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system. Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing thi
[19:52] <alexandros> killall xscreensaver will fix it ?
[19:53] <wxl> should
[19:55] <alexandros> done


 How much space do I need on usb to extract lubuntu 18 0 4 iso
 *checks the Lubuntu ISO size*
 I heard more than that is recommended
 But idk
 yeah but it helps for me to have a baseline ;)
 @Nathanpotato by 'extract' do you mean for creating an installer disk or for installing the system to?
 Btw fam even though I got frustrated with arc, I'm gonna put learning c++ and qt on the side while I figure out arc with the guide sometime this week during the weeknights. I'm determined this time.
[07:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9350c3dfe2b2: Add places with Desktop] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9350c3dfe2b2
[07:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL272272be1063: Add creating files/folders] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL272272be1063
[08:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#3522
[08:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6f2eecbe0af7: Add trash to manual] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6f2eecbe0af7
[15:01] <hmollercl> are you there wxl?
[15:42]  * wxl[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot_20181217-074030_Riotim.jpg (216KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/disroot.org/wxDiBxjSjyqqeaWHYiEVEoQz >
[15:43] <wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 @SamuelBanya got that crazy idea to use GitHub from you ^
 Hmm
 Ok
[15:44] <wxl[m]> Also you note how I explain how to use `arc`.  I just get frustrated easily sometimes
[15:57] <hmollercl> @wxl I have ready the MVP for additional driver tab. Can you test it?
[16:12] <wxl[m]> @HMollerCl sure! Where's it at?
[16:13] <hmollercl> @wxl that's thing. At this point only in my pc. Where should/can I upload it?
[17:58] <wxl> hmollercl: is it a binary?
[18:00] <hmollercl> no, .py
[18:00] <hmollercl> the source code.
[18:01] <hmollercl> not sure how to compile .py in linux at this moment
[18:01] <wxl> you could put it in a ppa
[18:01] <hmollercl> how?
[18:02] <hmollercl> should I put the whole code or only the diffs aggaints the master?
[18:02] <wxl> in the packaging guide there's a bit about ppas
[18:03] <hmollercl> ok, will read it
[18:03] <wxl> or you could just put the whole source code in your launchpad account
[18:03] <wxl> or github or whatever
[18:03] <wxl> i can figure it out :)
[18:04] <hmollercl> I have launchpad, the master is in launchpad https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main
[18:04] <hmollercl> should I put the whole code?
[18:05] <wxl> yep
[18:05] <hmollercl> or "create a new ppa" ??
[18:05] <wxl> you could do that... to create binaries, but no worries
[18:05] <wxl> the source is fine
[18:14] <hmollercl> here it is
[18:14] <hmollercl> https://github.com/hmollercl/swprop
[18:15] <hmollercl> know issues: when changed to additiona driver tab app freeze, when installing new drivers there is no progress bar nor cancel button
[18:16] <hmollercl> run it like
[18:16] <hmollercl> lxqt-sudo ./software-properties-qt


[01:04] <IternaLIthor> anyone here know about linux nvidia drivers?
[01:04] <IternaLIthor> should i change it from neaveau?
[01:04] <IternaLIthor> what will happen?
[01:26] <patdk-lap> not much, the nvidia driver really doesn't do anything on ubuntu server
[04:09] <Username__> I'd like to use a GUI while remotely administrating my server, but I don't want to make my server vulnerable, or have it run while I'm not connected. Could you point me to a good resource on achieving this?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !info cockpit | Username__ maybe
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> running something remotely, would always be a risk for intruders
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> better try to manage your servers cli
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> maybe elaborate the kind of administration you need, and volunteers might advice you how to approach Username__
[04:15] <Username__> I just installed cockpit, and that I can only access it over the local network with my long password seems pretty secure to me. (I'm no expert) I like all the features a great deal, but now I want to set up docker, and the guides I'm seeing are using GUIs. I probably don't need one, I'll do more research
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Username__: ssh remote management could be one way to administrate, but also needs a security thinkover so your server doesnt get hammered on ssh
[04:19] <Username__> If I set up ssh keys it should be good, since they're really long, right? I think I saw an option somewhere about that.
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !ssh
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !security
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> setting up another port on ssh and use fail2ban can help the hammering
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !info fail2ban
[04:22] <ravage> with ssh keys the hammering is really just annoying
[04:22] <ravage> and fail2ban can reduce youe log spam here yes
[04:22] <ravage> keep in mind it is a universe package
[04:33] <Username__> Great, I told UFW to let 9090 through for cockpit and ssh, and enabled it, and installed fail2ban, though I installed firewalld when I first turned on cockpit because cockpit suggested it, and uninstalled it when it blocked cockpit. Should I try to switch over to firewalld, or is there a way to get rid of the "Not running (Error) message from cockpit in regards to firewalld?
[07:37] <JanC> if you use 'ufw', it can rate limit a port like 22, and then the hammering will be limited in practice...
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> morning JanC
[07:40] <JanC> o/
[07:40] <JanC> lots of people on the streets this morning!  :)
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah indeed
[10:47] <apxseemax> oh reconnection it is I guess
[10:48] <apxseemax> Hello, I am here to find the wizards of lake curtin so they may help me to get stuff from /cdrom/ to /target/. Still looking for help
[14:33] <esv> have you tried: mount /dev/sr0 /target ?
[14:34] <esv> err, do you have stuff in a CD and want to make it available on /target or do you have a directory called /cdrom and want to move/copy to /target ?