[18:18] <noodlesgc> RickZilla at least wait a few weeks, so the servers wont be overloaded
[18:18] <zeeeee> help, i just got a bunch of auto-updates, had to restart, and now networking is broken. "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start" gives me "eth0: Error while getting interface flags: no such device". i can see my broadcom netxtreme bcm5751 gige controller in lspci, though. please help!
[18:18] <Pici> RickZilla: Update Manager will prompt you to install an upgrade to 8.10 when it is released.  You won't have to start from scratch.
[18:18] <MaxHavoc> Is there anyone that can help me with a networking issue in Ubuntu? I have a statically configured eth1 and ifdown tells me it's not configured, ifup gives me weird errors, please PM if you can help, thank you.
[18:19] <misteralexander> Reaverbot:  Have you tried "ISO-Master"?
[18:19] <RickZilla> noodlesgc and Pici:  Thanks for the info
[18:19] <en1gma> does 'sudo checkinstall' actually install the files or does it create a .deb somewhere
[18:19] <thebornotaku> I was informed about an hour ago that my wireless card, an Airlink101 AWLC3026, would work on my Kubuntu installation without the need for NDISwrapper, anybody got any guides how to install drivers for it?
[18:19] <Reaverbot> iso master didn´t work.
[18:19] <Pici> en1gma: It installs by default, I beleive you can tell it not to though with a switch.
[18:19] <Reaverbot> Oh, thats the problem
[18:19] <epifanio> MaxHavoc: i've a program (like google heart) in it is possible to move the world using tcp signal ... so if can i decode the joipad message (maybe using python-serial? or other tools, i do not know) i can use the joipad instead of gui
[18:19] <en1gma> Pici thanks
[18:19] <Reaverbot> here is "cdrecord has no permission to open the device"
[18:19] <Pici> en1gma: But, FYI, checkinstall debs are *not* for distributing to other users.
[18:19] <unitedpotsmokers> RickZilla, they said to me just now, we need format and make a fresh install
[18:20] <en1gma> Pici yea thats fine
[18:20] <Reaverbot> Permission for "sudo" means? How I can give it permission?
[18:20] <en1gma> im just trying to figure out why opencv isnt working
[18:20] <RickZilla> unitedpotsmokers:  I'll let you keep smokin' that stuff :-)
[18:20] <noodlesgc> Pici Why should we not distribute checkinstall debs?
[18:20] <thebornotaku> or would the drivers for my wireless card come with the adept updates?
[18:21] <zeeeee> help! i just got a bunch of auto-updates, had to restart, and now networking is broken. "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start" gives me "eth0: Error while getting interface flags: no such device". i can see my broadcom netxtreme bcm5751 gige controller in lspci, though.
[18:21] <Reaverbot> here is "cdrecord has no permission to open the device"
[18:21] <d-b> noodlesgc: its probably in 8.10
[18:21] <MaxHavoc> Reaverbot, Your user account might not have permissions to use sudo
[18:21] <misteralexander> Hey guys . . . how do I make an "image" of my system.  I need to Re-Install Ubuntu, but don't want to have to wait through the updates & redownload all my programs and file settings.  Any Ideas?
[18:21] <Chubbz> !sudo > Reaverbot
[18:21] <ericjung> what is the name of the first-person shooter game for Linux that is based on doom? It is called Open Something ?
[18:21] <en1gma> well why isnt my checkinstalls showing up in synaptic under the catagory "CHECKINSTALL"
[18:21] <unitedpotsmokers> yea, i ask people how to enable webcam but nobody cant help i think...
[18:21] <thebornotaku> also is there a default password for the su command in the terminal or the sudo command, I tried my account password, password, admin, null and administrator and nothing worked
[18:21] <d-b> misteralexander: yep. easy but why do you need to reinstall misteralexander
[18:21] <Pici> !root | thebornotaku
[18:21] <ericjung> anyone know the name of shooting game for Ubuntu that is like Doom?
[18:21] <noodlesgc> d-b I'm not really interested in distributing, or even packaging, I just wanted to know why
[18:21] <jrib> thebornotaku: sudo uses your user's password
[18:21] <costre> testing
[18:22] <costre> ping ...
[18:22] <en1gma> Pici, well why isnt my checkinstalls showing up in synaptic under the catagory "CHECKINSTALL"
[18:22] <Chubbz> !gpl > noodlesgc
[18:22] <d-b> noodlesgc: let me check for you.
[18:22] <costre> pong?
[18:22] <thebornotaku> so lets say my password is hunter2, if I type in hunter2 for a sudo it'll work?
[18:22] <jrib> thebornotaku: if your user is in the admin group (the first one is by default), yeah
[18:22] <zeeeee> anyone?
[18:22] <genii> thebornotaku: Yes. Unless you're not in the group of adm
[18:22] <thebornotaku> alright
[18:22] <misteralexander> d-b:  I want to re-locate my "/home" directory to a different HD.  I have 2 internal HD's in my Sony Vaio Laptop.  I was told previously, the only way to do that is through the partition manager during a fresh install.
[18:22] <noodlesgc> Chubbz, how does a checkinstall package violate the gpl?
[18:22] <Pici> thebornotaku: Only if your user is in the admin group or explicitly listed in the sudoers file.
[18:22] <d-b> it is in hardy. checkinstall....
[18:23] <d-b> well theoretically you could reboot to a live cd and tar the contents of your disk or use dd.
[18:23] <thebornotaku> can anybody help me out with getting a wireless card's drivers and getting it configured?
[18:24] <zeeeee> oh, a second reboot made my problem disappear. *shrug*
[18:24] <misteralexander> d-b:  So, just zipping it up will do it?  There isn't some crazy "Backup Wizard" I need?
[18:24] <mint>  I have /boot, /home and / on different partitions, can I just reinstall / from a live cd without messing anything up?
[18:24] <unitedpotsmokers> !best
[18:24] <d-b> otherwise just copy /var/cache/apt (the contents ) and the configuration files you have edited from /etc - you might also want to export your apt /package selections.
[18:24] <MaxHavoc> Is there anyone that can help me with a networking issue in Ubuntu? I have a statically configured eth1 and ifdown tells me it's not configured, ifup gives me weird errors, please PM if you can help, thank you.
[18:26] <d-b> misteralexander: you might want to look up https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC ...  and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[18:26] <SpiritSight> Grim76__: you there
[18:26] <hoarycripple> I am using a laptop with two different external monitors.  At work, I have  a 1440x900 external monitor and at home I have a 1600x1200 monitor.  Is there a way to configure xorg and twinview to detect these monitors and automatically use the resolution?  Right now I have to keep messing with the xorg.conf file each time I want to use a different external monitor.
[18:26] <d-b> who ever told you, that you need to re do the wizard is wrong. it might be less userfriedly but it works.
[18:27] <nikeplektrum> What is the easisest way of getting a static ip in 8.10, and that is still static after reboot?
[18:27] <misteralexander> d-b:  Okay, great . . . THANKS!  I'll give it a whirl.
[18:27] <MaxHavoc2> Is there anyone that can help me with a networking issue in Ubuntu? I have a statically configured eth1 and ifdown tells me it's not configured, ifup gives me weird errors, please PM if you can help, thank you.
[18:27] <d-b> nikeplektrum: you might want to see #ubuntu+1
[18:27] <nikeplektrum> y
[18:28] <lucax> does anyone know how to make gnome-main-menu wider?
[18:28] <Pici> nikeplektrum: Because #ubuntu+1 is the 8.10 support channel. Not #ubuntu.
[18:28] <Phoul> DOes anyone know if flash10 is gona be in any of the repos
[18:28] <nikeplektrum> Pici, meanth to say "ty" :D
[18:28] <Reaverbot> Does anyone know how to use kchunk? to transform .cue to .iso?
[18:28]  * DB]Oric 晕倒
[18:28] <d-b> well. 8.10 is not out yet is it ? it is still in beta.
[18:29] <Pici> nikeplektrum: Ah, nevermind me then.
[18:29] <jrib> Reaverbot: do you mean bchunk?
[18:29] <Reaverbot> bchunk, yeah
[18:29] <Justcameron> if I update a program using a backport (ie. I use hardy which has firefox 3, suppose that intrepid has fx 3.1 (I know it won't) and it gets backported to hardy, and I install it because I want to have the latest version of Firefox. then when I upgrade to intrepid, does the world explode, or will the update manager handle that?)
[18:30] <outbri> d-b: still in beta
[18:30] <techsupport> question. i need to extract a binary .so.gz package, how cai i do it in terminal
[18:30] <jrib> Reaverbot: did you look at the man page?  It looks pretty straightforward, but I've never used it myself
[18:30] <noodlesgc> Justcameron upgrade will take care of it
[18:30] <Justcameron> noodlesgc: thx
[18:30] <techsupport> jrib, question. i need to extract a binary .so.gz package, how can i do it in terminal
[18:31] <Reaverbot> I do this "bchunk /home/diggerreaverbot/Desktop/a/a/image.bin /home/diggerreaverbot/Desktop/a/a/.image.cue /home/diggerreaverbot/Desktop/a/a/image.iso
[18:31] <d-b> outbri: are there any plans to delay it. i have heard and from my own tests not seen great things from this beta.
[18:31] <liza0|wrk> do any of you guys have issues with flash in 64 bit where you go to certain sites and the flash doesn't load properly ?
[18:31] <Reaverbot> And did not work.
[18:31] <jrib> !doesn't work | Reaverbot
[18:31] <jrib> techsupport: do you just want to gunzip it?  Or are you asking more?
[18:31] <karooga> hi, anyone been able to get ldap with tls working in hardy?
[18:31] <livinglegend> can someone help me
[18:31] <livinglegend> I cant change the resolution on ubuntu
[18:31] <techsupport> jrib, just unzip
[18:32] <jrib> techsupport: use gunzip then
[18:32] <livinglegend> help
[18:32] <livinglegend> with graphics card
[18:32] <Justcameron> livinglegend: what happens when you try to change resolutions?
[18:32] <livinglegend> I need help with my graphics card drivers
[18:32] <livinglegend> i cant change it
[18:32] <jrib> !enter | livinglegend
[18:33] <livinglegend> ok
[18:33] <chickenfuego2> livinglegend, try to type "xrandr" on a console, what can you see?
[18:34] <SpiritSight> Any one here able to help with grub, no one is responsive in the #grub list
[18:34] <techsupport> jrib, how can i reattach to this screen session http://pastebin.com/m7b7794d0
[18:34] <noodlesgc> SpiritSight just ask the question
[18:35] <SpiritSight> I need help with geting my partition booting
[18:35] <liza0|wrk> the web nets a some standard application to replace flash
[18:35] <jrib> techsupport: detach it first (-d or -D, I forget) or use -x instead of -r
[18:35] <liza0|wrk> don't you all agree
[18:35] <liza0|wrk> net=needs
[18:35] <jrib> !ot > liza0|wrk
[18:36] <jim_p> !putty
[18:36] <SpiritSight> I have boot on sda1 and my ubuntu on sda2
[18:36] <knut> hi i need help with vbox.... i installed kde4 and now i cant start my virtual windows xp anymore
[18:36] <liza0|wrk> jrib:i am having problems with flash in ubuntu 64 bit were the app tries to load but is unsuccessful
[18:36] <jim_p> is there an app similar to putty but with a pretier interface?
[18:36] <Arch3Angel> it does not appear to have setup the drivers for the broadcom wireless card after to 143 updates
[18:37] <jrib> liza0|wrk: flash works pretty good for me on amd64.  Sometimes npviewer dies and I need to restart my browser though.  Are you using adobe's flash (not gnash)?
[18:37] <LuYu> is firefox 3.0 really faster?  or is it slower?
[18:37] <liza0|wrk> adobe flash
[18:37] <LuYu> i have two users telling me it seems slower
[18:37] <LuYu> i didnt really notice myself
[18:37] <Justcameron> LuYu: than Fx 2?
[18:38] <LuYu> yeah
[18:38] <jrib> liza0|wrk: does it load when you restart your browser (completely)?
[18:38] <noodlesgc> LuTu I think its faster
[18:38] <LuYu> im getting lots of complaints
[18:38] <Justcameron> certainly shouldn't be slower - YMMV though
[18:38] <Justcameron> maybe they have some botched add-on which is making it slower?
[18:38] <LuYu> maybe its slower for scripts
[18:38] <d-b> LuYu: its faster.
[18:38] <LuYu> or something like that
[18:38] <d-b> go look up some benchmarks
[18:39] <Justcameron> it should be faster for javascript too
[18:39] <Arch3Angel> does anyone know how to get this broadcom wireless card working on this HO Mini-Note
[18:39] <LuYu> hmmm
[18:39] <CpuWhiz> Reaverbot: bchunk a.bin a.cue a <- this would give you a file called "a01.iso". that third argument is a basename it tacks onto, not the full output iso filename as it outputs 1 per track it seems
[18:39] <LuYu> maybe i should go get flamed on the #firefox channel
[18:39] <livinglegend> I need a tutrial for nvidia graphic card
[18:39] <livinglegend> anyone?
[18:40] <Justcameron> LuYu: I think you need some more specific complaints :)
[18:40] <LuYu> yeah
[18:40] <LuYu> well, i just see it taking up a lot of processor time
[18:40] <LuYu> 50%
[18:40] <livinglegend> I need tutrial for nvidia graphic card
[18:40] <liza0|wrk> jrib:ok what i am realizing it loads now for most sites but not for some other sites which i had sucess loading in windows
[18:40] <livinglegend> anyone help me
[18:40] <bakarat> i'm looking for a system to add metadata to all my files, anything like that around?
[18:40] <LuYu> and the user is complaining that it locks up all the time
[18:40] <jrib> liza0|wrk: example?
[18:41] <Justcameron> livinglegend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[18:41] <bakarat> it doesn't actually have to be physically (ie on filesystem level) attached to the file (preferably not even), but a plugin for nautilus or the likes would be sweet
[18:41] <LuYu> she says "the computer is locking up", but really it is only the browser that is stalling
[18:41] <bakarat> anyone know anything that does that?
[18:41] <jrib> bakarat: right click -> properties -> notes, or do you want something else?
[18:41] <LuYu> i cant be more specific, though, cause it is not my experience
[18:41] <SpiritSight> I need help with geting my partition booting, I have boot on sda1 and my ubuntu on sda2
[18:41] <wendico> hello, may I boot windows installed on a logical partition with grub?
[18:41] <Justcameron> LuYu: sounds like an add-on problem to me
[18:41] <bakarat> jrib: preferably with specific fields depending on the "type" of file
[18:41] <LuYu> hmmm
[18:42] <Justcameron> LuYu: irc.mozilla.org/#firefox
[18:42] <LuYu> so, you figure if i delete the addons, it might speed up?
[18:42] <hausha> My hd says "click" and everything hangs... Should I toss it away?
[18:42] <jrib> bakarat: sounds like a worthy thing to hack on to modify the notes feature.  But I don't know
[18:42] <bakarat> jrib: btw, is it possible to do (advanced) searches on the "notes" field?
[18:42] <livinglegend> caneron
[18:42] <davismj> !question
[18:42] <jrib> bakarat: no idea
[18:42] <livinglegend> cameron
[18:42] <livinglegend> can you help me do this
[18:43] <Justcameron> LuYu: key word "might" but it's definately something work trying
[18:43] <bakarat> jrib: (and is the notes feature a nautilus one or linux-wide?)
[18:43] <davismj> !日本語
[18:43] <davismj> !jp
[18:43] <LuYu> on the ubuntu side, the system i built (hardy) is still using 50% of the processor time when idle
[18:43] <jrib> bakarat: pretty sure it's just nautilus.  I don't know if there is some sort of standard it's using.  You would have to look into that (maybe check freedesktop.org)
[18:43] <davismj> thats because of tracker, i think
[18:43] <LuYu> if the proc is 50% utilized normally, that doesnt leave much for apps
[18:43] <Justcameron> LuYu: is that using gnome-system-monitor?
[18:44] <bakarat> jrib: will do, thanks for the feedback :>
[18:44] <LuYu> yeah
[18:44] <techsupport> jrib, gunzip gamei386.so.gz produces no output, and nothing is changed, no files are added
[18:44] <citybird> what is the name of that app that puts your pc stats on the desktop for you??
[18:44] <Justcameron> LuYu: try using top instead - I find that gnome-system-monitor uses a load of CPU (I think it's from drawing the graphs) or you can reduce the interval it updates the data at
[18:44]  * MHz128 does Network Manage (nm-applet) have its own IRC channel?
[18:45] <MHz128> Manager
[18:45] <LuYu> with firefox running, it was between 98% and 100%
[18:45] <jrib> techsupport: it should have renamed your file from gamei386.so.gz to gamei386.so
[18:45] <LuYu> now its hovering around 50%
[18:45] <LuYu> fair enough
[18:45] <LuYu> it does use a lot
[18:45] <techsupport> jrib, oh yeah it did :) what do i do next ?
[18:45] <dani> hi i need help
[18:45] <jrib> techsupport: I don't know what you are trying to do
[18:45] <LuYu> but that still shouldnt account for 50% of the CPU, right?
[18:46] <dani> what does it mean when it says i need to make something on ubuntu
[18:46] <liza0|wrk> jrib:i'll just make do with the flash problem and try to find a work around
[18:46] <techsupport> jrib, now i need to install the game.so ?
[18:46] <jrib> techsupport: why?
[18:46] <Justcameron> dani: probably not that you should make it
[18:46] <techsupport> jrib, its a server for quake 2
[18:46] <Guest88703> thats what it says
[18:46] <techsupport> jrib, i did it before i just need to do it again, cause the server binaries / version was updated
[18:46] <Guest88703> i'm trying to get my wireless router sorted
[18:46] <psicobra> hi any one here any good with samba
[18:47] <jrib> techsupport: don't you have a README or INSTALL file?
[18:47] <Guest88703> and its meant to be using madwifi
[18:47] <jrib> psicobra: best to just ask the channel your question
[18:47] <wendico> Is it posible to boot windows instalation from a logical partition?
[18:47] <techsupport> jrib, nope lol
[18:47] <Justcameron> LuYu: exit gnome-system-monitor, open a terminal and run top, then see how much cpu your computers uses when idle
[18:47] <macvr> hi all...i'm trying to use this thread to install drivers for my texas 5-in-1 card reader>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3726886#post3726886 << but everytime i try to 'make' it installs into my "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build M=/home/" old kernel... i'm now using 24-21... how do i make it install into the new kernel?
[18:47] <LuYu> i did that
[18:47] <jrib> techsupport: try 'locate gamei386.so' and see where the old one is I guess
[18:47] <Guest88703> so what does it mean to make
[18:47] <LuYu> now im just trying to figure out what im seeing with top
[18:48] <Justcameron> oh yeah it's not as beautiful and pretty as gnome-system-monitor :)
[18:48] <psicobra> k i have shared a folder using samba and i have made it writable but when i acsess it from the new work i can view it copy from it but not to it any ideas
[18:48] <Guest88703> anyone?
[18:48] <citybird> fuck http://www.gdesklets.org/ expired and has been sucked up by an ad pirate
[18:48] <d-b> !swear
[18:48] <psicobra> language
[18:48] <LjL> !language
[18:48] <stinger05> hello there , i have a compaq presario CQ50 laptop, ubuntu boots but freezes completely when it logs in, why is that ?? im using ubuntu 8.04.1
[18:49] <Guest88703> is noone able to help?
[18:49] <citybird> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html needs to be updated. specificly the link to https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html
[18:49] <citybird> arrr
[18:49] <citybird> the link to http://www.gdesklets.org/
[18:50] <jim_p> !ssh
[18:50] <Justcameron> LuYu: in the 3rd row it shows Cps(s) %us is used and %id is idle
[18:50] <LuYu> well, thats about 5% in use
[18:50] <LuYu> and about 91% idle
[18:51] <Justcameron> much healthier :)
[18:51] <LuYu> i would say i have too many idle processes going on
[18:51] <pbn> Hello, can someone running Ubuntu 8.04 tell me what md5sum he has for /etc/init.d/kdm
[18:51] <LuYu> or am i wrong about that?
[18:51] <pbn> ... I suspect mine is broken
[18:51] <SpiritSight> noodlesgc: I need help with geting my partition booting, I have boot on sda1 and my ubuntu on sda2
[18:52] <Justcameron> LuYu: no I think linux just has lots of processes going on which aren't actually doing anything
[18:52] <macvr>  hi all...i'm trying to use this thread to install drivers for my texas 5-in-1 card reader>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3726886#post3726886 << but everytime i try to 'make' it installs into my "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build M=/home/" old kernel... i'm now using 24-21... how do i make it install into the new kernel?
[18:52] <magnetron> hi, are any programs for generating random passwords available in ubuntu?
[18:52] <Justcameron> they just kind of sit there in the background
[18:52] <LuYu> well, starting firefox puts it up past 85, and then it drops to about 50%
[18:52] <Mixed_--_> !ati
[18:52] <stinger05>  i have a compaq presario CQ50 laptop, ubuntu boots but freezes completely when it logs in, why is that ?? im using ubuntu 8.04.1
[18:52] <LjL> magnetron: yeah, there are a couple, moment
[18:52] <Justcameron> however I don't really know - I'm pretty new to linux
[18:52] <d-b> magnetron: yes use /dev/uradom
[18:52] <d-b> /dev/urandom *
[18:53] <magnetron> d-b, it needs to be typeable and finite-length
[18:53] <LjL> magnetron: pwgen, apg, gpw, otp
[18:53]  * DB]Oric :)
[18:53] <LjL> magnetron: some of those try to generate "rememberable" passwords
[18:53] <magnetron> LjL, ty
[18:53] <macvr>  hi all...i'm trying to use this thread to install drivers for my texas 5-in-1 card reader>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3726886#post3726886 << but everytime i try to 'make' it installs into my "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build M=/home/" old kernel... i'm now using 24-21... how do i make it install into the new kernel?
[18:53] <Justcameron> LuYu: definately shouldn't be using that much - try uninstalling some add-ons
[18:53] <LjL> magnetron: i'd try pwgen for a start
[18:53] <LuYu> hmmm
[18:53] <wendico> Hello, somebody  help me plz. Im trying to boot my Windows XP with grub but i get error 12: invalid device requested. Windows is installed in a logical partition. Is it posible to boot a logical partition with grub?
[18:53] <LuYu> there arent too many, though
[18:54] <LuYu> there are a few language packs, though
[18:54] <Justcameron> macvr: perhaps try posting in that thread? I don't think anyone here knows
[18:54] <LuYu> or maybe this is a chinese language problem
[18:54] <stinger05>  i have a compaq presario CQ50 laptop, ubuntu boots but freezes completely when it logs in, why is that ?? im using ubuntu 8.04.1
[18:54] <macvr> Justcameron: its now an archive!!! :(    k...  will try starting 1
[18:54] <d-b> stinger05: we need more information if you want help.
[18:55] <LuYu> is it possible that it behaves this way in the zh_TW locale?
[18:55] <stinger05> i get the mouse cursor and orange background, it just stops there
[18:55] <Reenen> hi all... I have a question... I have: fpc 2.2.0 installed (default Feisty ubuntu), I also have the svn of fpc 2.2.2+, but this one doesn't compile.  So I got the latest compiler's .deb file, to compile the svn version... then last I want my svn version to be my "default" version... I'll gladly break it down into smaller chunks...
[18:55] <davismj> !question
[18:55] <d-b> stinger05: that is odd. does windows work ?
[18:55] <unitedpotsmokers> somebody can help me, how to enable webcam using gyachi? i'm using ubuntu hardy, and i configure at setup menu but nothing happen and i got a problem msg when i try use the webcam. I really need your help guys...
[18:55] <stinger05> sure, its brand new with vista
[18:56] <cyban> er whats the installer again? not Yum in Ubuntu but the one it uses
[18:56] <davismj> !jp
[18:56] <LjL> !apt | cyban
[18:56] <cyban> apt, thanks
[18:56] <Justcameron> LuYu: I wouldn't have thought language packs would be a problem, but maybe.
[18:56] <LjL> davismj, what are you doing, pray tell?
[18:56] <d-b> so wh at exactly happens ? stinger05 it just stops ?
[18:56] <Justcameron> LuYu: does your homepage use any plugins?
[18:56] <LuYu> i dont know either
[18:56] <LuYu> im just guessing
[18:56] <Justcameron> LuYu: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+consumes+a+lot+of+CPU+resources
[18:56] <stinger05> d-b: the "whole computer" freezes
[18:56] <LuYu> shes using yahoo
[18:57] <livinglegend> damnit I cant figure out how to get my graphics card working
[18:57] <DB]Oric> :quit
[18:57] <livinglegend> I wish someone could walk me through it I'm new at ubuntu
[18:57] <davismj> livinglegend: did you try envy?
[18:58] <misteralexander> Okay, so I read some "help.ubuntu" articles on backing up my stuff, but I'm wondering, if I just boot into a LiveCD & "copy" my entire file system to an external, can I format & just overwrite my new data with my old & will that be the same as a "restore"?
[18:58] <cyix> anyone getting hung up at loading after the new kernel patch?
[18:59] <cyban> whats the help command for apt? apt--
[18:59] <Trashlord> apt-get
[18:59] <LjL> cyban: apt-get --help, or apt-cache --help
[18:59] <misteralexander> I will have all my current updates, patches, programs, programs settings & configurations?
[18:59] <stinger05> d-b: what do u suggest my friend?
[18:59] <isleshocky77> I'm trying to install mx5000-tools (http://home.gna.org/mx5000tools/) which requires that I compile the software.  The installation just says to do the normal ./configure && make && make install.  But when I do ./configure, I get "No such file or directory".
[19:00] <Arch3Angel> i just did an lspci on this mini-note and got this line returned
[19:00] <Arch3Angel> 02:00.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11 a/b/g (rev02)
[19:00] <Arch3Angel> it appears to me the driver is installed
[19:00] <Arch3Angel> or am i mistaken
[19:00] <d-b> stinger05: i have no idea. its odd. shouldn't be happening - your hardware might be too new i can't do anything from here.
[19:00] <cyban> .... that change recently? seem to remember there being like clean all etc
[19:00] <isleshocky77> It has an autogen.sh file, so I try running that ./autogen.sh and I get the following http://isleshocky77.pastebin.com/d20f35b5d
[19:00] <isleshocky77> Any help would be appreciated.
[19:01] <psicobra> k i have shared a folder using samba and i have made it writable but when i acsess it from the network i can view it copy from it but not to it any ideas
[19:01] <LuYu> Justcameron: that page seems to suggest that all the plugins be up to date
[19:01] <stinger05> d-b: well, yeah, its quite new:)
[19:01] <LuYu> Justcameron: i dont think that is an option
[19:01] <LuYu> she definitely needs flash
[19:02] <cyban> ok for instance, add/remove programs dont display thing that are in synaptic, do I need to do like apt-update or clean all etc or something
[19:02] <LuYu> i cant turn a college girl into RMS overnight
[19:03] <d-b> LuYu: ROFL. um. there are a few tweaks you can do to firefox google for them.
[19:03] <LuYu> i did
[19:03] <d-b> LuYu: dont work ?
[19:03] <davismj> !msgthebot | LuYu
[19:03] <Arch3Angel> ok who has experience with broadcom drivers and this new linux driverf
[19:03] <LuYu> but having her selectively disable scripts or flash commercials on websites is onerous at best
[19:03] <jrib> davismj: stop abusing the bot please.
[19:04] <unitedpotsmokers> hi, just want to know, can we request a free cd from ubuntu now? i want to order ubuntu interpid ibex...
[19:04] <ncfi1013> WHY WHEN IM TRYING TO BURN MOVIES IN K3B IS IT NOT GOING PAST PREPARING DATA
[19:04] <jrib> !caps | ncfi1013
[19:04] <d-b> LuYu: you can still use adblock.
[19:04] <ncfi1013> sorry didnt shout accidentally hit caps
[19:04] <LuYu> hmmm
[19:04] <B3z3rk3r> saved by ubottu again
[19:04] <davismj> jrib: SORRY!
[19:05] <JediMaster> hey guys, how do I change the volume from the command line?
[19:05] <unitedpotsmokers> is interpid is available for request a free cd?
[19:05] <ncfi1013> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:06] <livingdaylight> what time is Intrepid ready?
[19:06] <jim_p> unitedpotsmokers: not now, it will be when its released
[19:06] <scampbell> JediMaster:  I like aumix   apt-get install aumix
[19:06] <livingdaylight> !intrepid
[19:06] <davismj> JediMaster: gnome-volume --YOU-ARE-TOO-LOUD
[19:06] <LuYu> yeah, im just in a funky position here (admission:  my fault).  she is comparing ubuntu directly with the windows boxen of her classmates, and i think i am losing the battle
[19:06] <Mixed_--_> anyone expert that know how to configure ATI video cards?  I am trying to configure an old ATI Rage 128 Xpert on my xubuntu box with hardy heron
[19:06] <LuYu> i think it would be hard to ask her to disable anything that was enabled in IE
[19:06] <JediMaster> davismj: ta
[19:06] <AlexMax> I'm having trouble with GNOME.  If I click on the date/time in the upper right hand corner of the screen, I used to get a calendar.    Help!
[19:07] <davismj> AlexMax: are you wearing a red cap
[19:07] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  I had the same problem.  I had to reinstall gnome-applets  "sudo apt-get install gnome-applets"
[19:07] <Arch3Angel> ok i did modprobe bcm43xx and now i see broadcom items doing lsmod | grep bcm
[19:08] <Arch3Angel> however i still dont see it doing ifconfig
[19:08] <DB]Oric> help
[19:08] <paul68> !help
[19:08] <investor> hi
[19:08] <AlexMax> misteralexander: Did nothing
[19:08] <AlexMax> I'm assuming I have to remove it first?
[19:08] <AlexMax> And isn't it a dependency of ubuntu-desktop?
[19:08] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  Yes, remove it first, then reinstall it.
[19:09] <ncfi1013> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:09] <isaacj87> hey all, I have a pcmcia HDD...is it possible to install Ubuntu on it and boot from it?
[19:09] <misteralexander> ncfi1013: How big is your swap drive?
[19:09] <AlexMax> misteralexander: I can't remove it, ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-applets
[19:09] <jclbrt> hey... so this is my first time trying to run ubuntu on a macbook pro
[19:10] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  That's fine, it's a meta-package, it'll survive, especially if you're going to reinstall.
[19:10] <LuYu> hmmm
[19:10] <jclbrt> i have two problems... one i may have fixed, but i havent restarted to find out
[19:10] <jclbrt> the trackpad seems to be a bit slow
[19:10] <AlexMax> actually aptitude is giving me an option to downgrade it
[19:10] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:10] <AlexMax> from 22.2 to 22.1
[19:10] <jclbrt> well not always slow but it will work fine for a sec and then it just stops suddenly and starts moving again
[19:10] <kusha1> !grub
[19:10] <isaacj87> jclbrt: you can adjust the trackpad speed in Preferences->Mouse
[19:10] <jclbrt> any idea why this is happening
[19:10] <jclbrt> i did
[19:11] <jclbrt> but it seems to still not work isaacj87
[19:11] <LuYu> is the "itunes application detector" a linux app?
[19:11] <AlexMax> didn't work
[19:11] <davismj> alexmax wears a cap!
[19:11] <LuYu> i dont think it is
[19:11] <jclbrt> i have had about 5 years of experience with ubuntu
[19:11] <isaacj87> LuYu: No
[19:11] <jclbrt> but this is my first time installing it on a macbook pro
[19:11] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  Didn't Work?
[19:11] <LuYu> hmm
[19:12] <LuYu> maybe she just installed a bunch of crap
[19:12] <AlexMax> Actually my methodology is faulty
[19:12] <theshadow> Alright I did the kernel update with the ndvidia driver update and now the resolution is borked. I went and tried to find the restricted drivers manager and I can't find it and if I open the hardware manager nothing is listed. Anyone have an idea?
[19:12] <AlexMax> I downgraded without restarting X
[19:12] <LuYu> one more reason to disallow installation of software by users
[19:12] <AlexMax> and I already upgraded back (because of a noficiation that said i was out of date)
[19:12] <AlexMax> but it should be 'reinstalled' in that case
[19:12] <AlexMax> so let me try again
[19:12] <davismj> !alexmax wears a cap
[19:12] <jclbrt> also the graphics card does not seem to be fully supported... i installed the nvidia-glx-new package from synaptic package manager but i havent restarted so i dnt know if it works yet
[19:12] <SpiritSight> I need help with getting my system to boot again, any one here can help?
[19:12] <buck-25> can someone tel me what the devil 'Roaming Mode' is in networking?
[19:12] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  I'm sorry . . . I'm still learning with Ubuntu & that fixed it for me . . . sorry.
[19:12] <AlexMax> dont apologize
[19:12] <jclbrt> SpiritSight what is it doing?
[19:12] <AlexMax> the only other guy talking to me is spouting nonsense
[19:13] <misteralexander> buck-25:  I don't think anyone REALLY knows.
[19:13] <misteralexander> LOl
[19:13] <SpiritSight> it gave code error 15
[19:13] <adv> i need some serious help
[19:13] <davismj> AlexMax: what the heck, don't name yourself after a nickelodeon character and then not fulfill the persona. you wear a red cap and melt when you need to slip under doors!
[19:13] <LuYu> is there a quicktime plugin for linux?
[19:13] <jclbrt> SpiritSight: grub error 15?
[19:13] <SpiritSight> it doing this because I had del a partion it had a OS on (ubuntu) and I did not need two OS of the same
[19:13] <buck-25> misteralexander: awesome, thanks
[19:13] <davismj> LuYu: did you try mplayer?
[19:13] <LuYu> that shouldnt be there either
[19:13] <AlexMax> misteralexander: Wow
[19:14] <misteralexander> buck-25:  No prob.
[19:14] <AlexMax> Apparently when I restarted X, now my gnome taskbar doesnt want to start at all
[19:14] <LuYu> im talking about stuff thats installed currently
[19:14] <paul68> !aditude davismj
[19:14] <misteralexander> davismj: That's Alex Mack, NOT Alex Max . . .
[19:14] <davismj> !spelling
[19:14] <AlexMax> So now my gnome taskbar no longer works
[19:14] <kusha1> friend I used "auto_super_grub_disk_1.0" to restore my grub after installing XP. its worked fine detected my grub but then for 1/2 hour it get stucked at this command Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs.stage 1_5 (hd0)"...
[19:14] <LuYu> if its part of the dirty/ugly packages, then ill leave it in
[19:14] <paul68> !atitude davismj
[19:14] <LuYu> but i think the system is trying to run the quicktime windows plugin
[19:14] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  No longer works, or is no longer visible?
[19:15] <davismj> !attitude | paul68
[19:15] <kusha1> please help I want my ubuntu grub back :(
[19:15] <jclbrt> SpiritSight: you should reinstall grub
[19:15] <SpiritSight> how do I do this
[19:15] <SpiritSight>  jclbrt: how do I do this
[19:15] <LuYu> so, am i correct in assuming that there is no official quicktime plugin for firefox on ubuntu?
[19:15] <adv> can someone help me with a broadcom wifi card?
[19:15] <LuYu> i should be right about that
[19:15] <Finnish> How do I see what chipset is in my laptop motherboard?
[19:15] <mongolai> LuYu: right.
[19:15] <SpiritSight> can you pm me os I can read what you say easier
[19:15] <AlexMax> misteralexander: Well, when i start GNOME now I get a working desktop, but the top and bottom bar dont appear at all
[19:16] <kusha1> I used "auto_super_grub_disk_1.0" to restore my grub after installing XP. its worked fine detected my grub but then for 1/2 hour it get stucked at this command Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs.stage 1_5 (hd0)"...
[19:16] <LuYu> man, college students can certainly make a mess quick
[19:16] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:16] <amenado> Finnish--> try these commands  lshw; hwinfo; lshal
[19:16] <isaacj87> jclbrt: Generally speaking, it seems the trackpad is a bit troublesome with Ubuntu. This guy posted his custom xorg.conf settings...maybe it could be helpful? http://lijamez.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-experience-on-a-macbook-21/
[19:16] <LuYu> i didnt know this was possible with linux
[19:16] <LuYu> :-/
[19:16] <jclbrt> SpiritSight: do u have the live CD
[19:16] <jclbrt> thanx isaacj87
[19:16] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  Again, I had the same issues before, here's how I solved them . . .
[19:16] <jclbrt> i will take a look at that
[19:16] <SpiritSight> I am in it now
[19:16] <jclbrt> oh ok
[19:16] <jclbrt> open a terminal window SpiritSight
[19:16] <paul68> LjL thanks
[19:16] <jclbrt> type grub
[19:17] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  "sudo apt-get install gnome-panel"
[19:17] <SpiritSight> ok did it
[19:17] <SpiritSight>  jclbrt: ok did it
[19:17] <misteralexander> AlexMax: and it came back when I restarted X
[19:17] <macvr> hi all... my uname - says that i have>>> UBUNTU-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1.... but i updated to 2.6.24-21 am i missing something? i restarted also after updating ... how do i check the version my initrd.gz???
[19:17] <adv> can someone help me with a broadcom card?
[19:17] <jclbrt> ok... type "root (hd0,x).... replace x with what ever partition your boot parition is
[19:18] <jclbrt> SpiritSight:  ok... type "root (hd0,x).... replace x with what ever partition your boot parition is
[19:18] <LuYu> why in the world would firefox allow windows plugins to be installed in linux?
[19:18] <unitedpotsmokers> how to order interpid cds and sent it immediately? i live in asia, how much a cost will i pay?
[19:19] <adv> no one?
[19:19] <SpiritSight>  jclbrt: it says  that Error 21: Selected disk does not exist I know it does
[19:19] <macvr> unitedpotsmokers: cds via ship are sent for free
[19:19] <SpiritSight> sda1 would be hd0,0 right
[19:19] <AlexMax> misteralexander: noi change
[19:19] <danbh_intrepid> unitedpotsmokers: you cant get it immediately
[19:19] <isaacj87> unitedpotsmokers: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ it's free, but could take a couple weeks.
[19:19] <macvr> !intrepid | unitedpotsmokers
[19:20] <jclbrt> SpiritSight:  ok.... type "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[19:20] <jclbrt> SpiritSight: you should get a response like (hd0) or in my case (hd0,3)
[19:20] <jclbrt> use whatever the computer gives you
[19:20] <SpiritSight> it says File not found / its there as I have seen it
[19:21] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  It seems like you have greater issues than I had . . . reinstalling "gnome-panel" & "gnome-applets" fixed my issues.  It's frustrating these fixes are not working for you . . . UGH!
[19:21] <jclbrt> :-\
[19:21] <AlexMax> well now I'm worse off than where i stared
[19:21] <AlexMax> started
[19:21] <bakarat> anyone know of a good metadata-for-files system? :>
[19:21] <AlexMax> is there anyhwere I can look for a log at whats going on?
[19:21] <macvr> hi all... my uname -a says that i have>>> UBUNTU-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1.... but i updated to 2.6.24-21 am i missing something? i restarted also after updating ... how do i check the version my initrd.gz???
[19:22] <Dreamglider> AlexMax, i am too worse of then when i started, it sux.
[19:22] <jclbrt> SpiritSight: try these directions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[19:23] <amenado> AlexMax--> what logs are you looking for?
[19:23] <cyban> trying to use X Server for Nvidia and have the new drivers installed, but it cant seem to save to the xorg.conf file, would chmod fix it or is their a better way
[19:23] <jclbrt> SpiritSight: you may have removed grub by accident when deleting the partition
[19:23] <jclbrt> what partition did you delete?
[19:23] <AlexMax> amenado: Well, I'm not 100% sure.  However, I'm willing to bet that the fact that gnome-panel is refusing to load is being logged somewhere
[19:23] <danbh_intrepid> macvr: where is initrd.gz?
[19:24] <cyban> nm, su -- worked
[19:24] <amenado> AlexMax--> how much are you willing to bet? not all events are logged, depends on the configs
[19:24] <AlexMax> Well why would GNOME's desktop load but not the menu bars
[19:24] <macvr> danbh_intrepid: /boot/initrd.gz
[19:24] <AlexMax> I know they're two different processes, but how would i even begin to figure out what's going wrong?
[19:25] <bakarat> come on lads, i've asked this question at irregular intervals, are you really telling me there are no meta-data-for-regular-files systems in linux? :|
[19:25] <Dreamglider> i guess a reinstall is the only option left for me. :/
[19:25] <AlexMax> I've already tried safe mode too
[19:25] <unitedpotsmokers> danbh_intrepid, isaacj87, macvr, thanks for the info.. i thought we have a second choice to get a final interpid cds..
[19:25] <AlexMax> or rather GNOME safe mode
[19:25] <assargadon> Mmm...do someone know some place with documentaion about ndiswrapper? I mean, I installed driver of my GPRS-modem, ndiswrapper -l show it to me as installed. But how can I use it? Maybe some devise should appear in /dev ?
[19:26] <unitedpotsmokers> ermm, can we request a final cd of interpid now?
[19:26] <danbh_intrepid> macvr: well, sorry, I'm on intrepid.  Looks like they got rid of that.
[19:26] <Vladimir> Hello. How i can view some information about my machine? e.g. CPU % use or RAM % use..
[19:26] <amenado> try   metacity --replace &
[19:26] <unitedpotsmokers> or we must wait untill in the end of the month?
[19:26] <andi__> ort
[19:26] <andi__> hello
[19:26] <macvr> danbh_intrepid: :(
[19:26] <danbh_intrepid> unitedpotsmokers: there is no way to get the cd quickly other than using bittorrent, or download
[19:26] <amenado> Vladimir--> top; free
[19:27] <Vladimir> thanks :)
[19:27] <LuYu> hmmm
[19:27] <LuYu> looks like getting rid of those plugins solved the problem
[19:27] <AlexMax> Well, I sorta solved the problem
[19:27] <macvr>  hi all... my uname - says that i have>>> UBUNTU-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1.... but i updated to 2.6.24-21 am i missing something? i restarted also after updating ... how do i check the version my initrd.gz???
[19:27] <AlexMax> I created a new user account
[19:27] <AlexMax> and the new user account works great
[19:27] <mongolai> Vladimir: there should also be a GUI "System Monitor" in the system menu
[19:27] <unitedpotsmokers> danbh_intrepid,  yea... but can we start order now?
[19:27] <AlexMax> so, how do I wipe my gnome config?
[19:27] <isaacj87> unitedpotsmokers: yeah, you can go ahead and request the cd now. I think they've already started to take "pre-orders"
[19:28] <macvr> danbh_intrepid: how is intrepid?
[19:28] <amenado> AlexMax--> try deleting those ~/.gnome directory?
[19:28] <isaacj87> macvr: it's decent
[19:28] <danbh_intrepid> macvr: still buggy and bumpy
[19:28] <Vladimir> mongolai: server edition.
[19:28] <isaacj87> danbh_intrepid: are you having trouble with it as well?
[19:28] <mongolai> Vladimir: OK, gotcha. There's also htop as a seperate install
[19:28] <macvr> danbh_intrepid: isaacj87 : k...
[19:29] <danbh_intrepid> isaacj87: lets keep it to +1
[19:29] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks isaacj87 ... u know i just worry, if we just update or upgrade via update manager, and some people said to me, i will have many error soon or maybe i ll get a hardware failure. so their advice is- make a clean install of interpid..
[19:30] <AlexMax> amenado: Doesn't gnome store things in other places too?
[19:30] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[19:30] <investor> any egyptian here ?
[19:30] <isaacj87> unitedpotsmokers: I recently did an upgrade to the Intrepid beta. The upgrade went pretty smoothly, but I prefer a clean install
[19:30] <unitedpotsmokers> i also used the interpid before, but i got a problem when my laptop made a noise (buzz) before i log in ubuntu
[19:30] <amenado> AlexMax--> possibly, i dont know it in-depth
[19:31] <mongolai> AlexMax: try creating another user, log into that and see if things are all well
[19:31] <AlexMax> mongolai: I did
[19:31] <AlexMax> i created another user
[19:31] <Mixed_--_> !crt
[19:31] <AlexMax> and everything is fine
[19:31] <Zoohouse> Quick question, what is the command to run diff apps in various languages? I remember it was LANG="eng" <name of app> but I can't remember correctly
[19:31] <Mixed_--_> !monitor
[19:31] <AlexMax> so now I want to wipe my settings
[19:32] <unitedpotsmokers> ahh.. i see thank a lot isaacj87 , u really help me tonite.. before this i'm very confuse what to do.. and i knew many people here bored to answer my question bro... thanks again isaacj87
[19:32] <LuYu> wow
[19:32] <tul> asla aint working.
[19:32] <mongolai> AlexMax: just to confirm: something is wrong in your personal gnome settings?
[19:32] <LuYu> realplayers install doesnt kid around
[19:32] <AlexMax> Yes
[19:32] <tul> come in and see!
[19:32] <tul> http://pastebin.ca/1223947
[19:32] <sluimers> Hi, my sound itsn't working
[19:32] <AlexMax> If i create a new user, the settings are fine
[19:32] <sluimers> isn't
[19:32] <keystr0k> I am using subversion on a website I am building. The client updates the pages using contribute, so before I make changes to the code, I have to download the files then commit any changes.  Is there an easy way to sync the local directory with the folder on the server (via SSH preferably)? This way I don't have to tar the folder on the server, download it to the desktop, untar, etc...
[19:32] <macvr>  hi all... my uname -a says that i have>>> UBUNTU-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1.... but i updated to 2.6.24-21 am i missing something? i restarted also after updating ... how do i check the version my initrd.gz???
[19:32] <sluimers> I just get no sound
[19:32] <AlexMax> if i try logging into my current user, everything is how it was, i.e. my settings are borked
[19:33] <LuYu> i wish they would release an ubuntu "non-free" package
[19:33] <mongolai> AlexMax: OK. Makes perfect sense.
[19:33] <Zoohouse> nevermind, it was LANG="eng" <app> haha not sure why it didn't work before
[19:33] <danbh_intrepid> LuYu: what would that be?
[19:33] <sluimers> I'm not getting any sound, can someone help me with this problem?
[19:33] <tul> i wish they released the 2.6.27 already
[19:33] <LuYu> what could realplayer be using selinux for?
[19:33] <Dreamglider> reinstall back in a bit.
[19:33] <LuYu> i dont know
[19:33] <AlexMax> rm -rf ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gnome2-private did not work
[19:33] <tul> 2.6.24 suck shit.
[19:33] <isaacj87> unitedpotsmokers: no problem man :)
[19:33] <AlexMax> and i hope i didnt blow away my sticky notes in the process
[19:33] <AlexMax> even though i probably did
[19:33] <LuYu> but they force the installation of about 15 packages
[19:33] <xbxb> Is it possible to deinstall Apache & PHP cleanly so that no traces of the software are left and I can reinstall them from scratch?
[19:34] <mongolai> AlexMax: just a sec. I'm looking up something that might help
[19:34] <LuYu> it might be better if they made something that played better with a standard ubuntu install
[19:34] <thebossut> hey guys iam stuck, i got ubuntu server install, had apache2  working and now i broke it, also using webmin
[19:34] <unitedpotsmokers> sorry for a stupid question, how to set a name while using xchat? like if i want to ask something to someone here, it will start like this " isaacj87:  blablablabalbalbala  "
[19:34] <thebossut> i just need to reinstall all over again config files too
[19:35] <danbh_intrepid> thebossut: have you tried to remove with --purge?
[19:35] <mongolai> AlexMax: have you tried gnome-reset  ?
[19:35] <unitedpotsmokers> i mean how to set a user's name.. sorry for my bad english
[19:35] <thebossut> i think so
[19:35] <thebossut> so apt-get remove --purge apache2
[19:35] <thebossut> right
[19:35] <ePax> With this latest kernel update i can not find/install build essential. Is it possible to install it some other way if it exists for 2.6.24-21-386?
[19:35] <macvr> hi all .... anyone using the latest 2.6.24-21? how u u log in? do u have to select the kernel 24-21 or default?
[19:36] <unitedpotsmokers> ?
[19:36] <AlexMax> mongolai: no
[19:36] <danbh_intrepid> thebossut: well, that may only be the meta package
[19:37] <macvr> unitedpotsmokers: which messenger are u using?
[19:37] <mongolai> AlexMax: look that up and give it a shot. Try creating a new, new user first and mess up the settings, then try it
[19:37] <danbh_intrepid> thebossut: maybe apache2.2-common    and maybe all the apache packages.
[19:37] <AlexMax> mongolai: It's worthless.  gnome-reset only works in a GUI
[19:37] <thebossut> yea i need every thing re-installed
[19:37] <AlexMax> i can't access a gui when I'm logged into my user account
[19:37] <AlexMax> because i cant load a terminal
[19:38] <AlexMax> because i can't access the menu bar
[19:38] <bullgard4> What program is suitable to concatenate 4 .flv videos?
[19:38] <unitedpotsmokers> macvr, now im using xchat v2.8.4 brother
[19:38] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  alt+F1 . . . i think, it'll send you to a terminal interface . . .
[19:38] <franki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/215284 <--does anyone have any idea if there's _anything_ i can do to get around this?? :\
[19:38] <thebossut> thanks
[19:38] <thebossut> trying it now
[19:38] <AlexMax> misteralexander: no no no, I'm in a termianl interface RIGHT NOW
[19:38] <AlexMax> but
[19:38] <AlexMax> it needs access to the gui
[19:39] <AlexMax> those ctrl-alt-f1 through f6 terminals are not attached to a GUI
[19:39] <franki> hmm, i thought that it would say what the link was, but it's about ubuntu not recognising canon powershot a460s
[19:39] <thebossut> seems it might be working
[19:39] <AlexMax> they're attached to their own dumb terminals
[19:39] <AlexMax> ctrl-alt-f7 is not a dumb terminal
[19:39] <AlexMax> which is where i need it
[19:39] <mongolai> AlexMax: not quite. you know that you can hit alt+f2 in a borked gnome to get a one shot command-line, right?
[19:39] <unitedpotsmokers> can someone answer my question?
[19:40] <macvre> unitedpotsmokers: /nic desiredusername
[19:40] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  Boot into a liveCD & copy XTERM to your desktop folder.  When you reboot (with no panels) it'll be there and let you interact in a GUI with a terminal interface.
[19:40] <magnetron> macvre: unitedpotsmokers: don't you mean /nick The_Riddle
[19:40] <thebossut> danbh_intrepid: thanks i think it worked
[19:40] <macvr> unitedpotsmokers:  oops: /nick uname
[19:41] <danbh_intrepid> thebossut: np
[19:41] <AlexMax> mongolai: did NOT know that
[19:41] <thebossut> very new to linux
[19:41] <thebossut> tho learning fast i think
[19:41] <AlexMax> also
[19:41] <AlexMax> there is a failsafe terminal that i just found out about
[19:41] <AlexMax> alt-f2 aint working
[19:41] <mongolai> AlexMax: cool beans. getting closer
[19:42] <macvr>  hi all .... anyone using the latest 2.6.24-21? how u u log in? do u have to select the kernel 24-21 or default?
[19:42] <unitedpotsmokers> i dont want to change nick bro.. but i just want to call the name people here... like this "thebossut: np "  "mongolai: did NOT know that" <-- i want call the name
[19:42] <AlexMax> and i cant tell whats going on because it only loads an xterm, no window manager
[19:42] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  alt+f2  . . . then type "xterm"
[19:42] <IdleOne> unitedpotsmokers: use TAB key
[19:42] <danbh_intrepid> !tab | unitedpotsmokers
[19:42] <jharkn> sorry, 2.6.27 here ;)
[19:42] <isaacj87> unitedpotsmokers: yeah, the TAB key
[19:42] <unitedpotsmokers> oh... i ll try
[19:42] <macvr> unitedpotsmokers: type part of name and then <tab>
[19:42] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  quicker and easier than my idea, achieving the same results.
[19:42] <AlexMax> that does nothing
[19:43] <thebossut> what about my nick unitedpot
[19:43] <unitedpotsmokers> wait.. i want to test
[19:43] <danbh_intrepid> AlexMax: try this, type danbh <tab>
[19:43] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  Alt+F2  then typing "xterm" does nothing?
[19:43] <danbh_intrepid> AlexMax: oops, that wasnt for you
[19:44] <unitedpotsmokers> themolester,   theclaw
[19:44] <unitedpotsmokers> ok i done.
[19:45] <macvr> anyone using kernel 2.6.24-21?
[19:45] <unitedpotsmokers> underwraps_2k, unitedpotsmokers , UnionPivo , Kitar|st
[19:45] <unitedpotsmokers> i got it.. thanks... for help
[19:45] <mongolai> AlexMax: bummer about the alt+f2. try the other alt key if you have one, and if that dosen't work it suggests that something went wrong with a previous attempt at fixing the original problem
[19:45] <mini-man> I'm trying to get flash working on firefox64...and I do have nspluginwrapper, and firefox does list it as active in about:plugins, but flash doesn't work. Ideas?
[19:45] <AlexMax> misteralexander: I loaded fluxbox and from there was able to get myself into gnome-reset
[19:45] <unitedpotsmokers> sorry guys, i'm asked a lot
[19:46] <AlexMax> however, that still did nothing
[19:46] <unitedpotsmokers> im new with linux
[19:46] <LuYu> buenas noches all
[19:46] <macvr>  anyone using kernel 2.6.24-21?
[19:46] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  whatever your problem is, it seems to be far, far beyond a Gnome issue . . .
[19:46] <chfwiggum> macvr: whats ur problem,sir?
[19:47] <chrisf_> hello
[19:47] <misteralexander> AlexMax:  Perhaps an X issue . . .
[19:47] <macvr> chfwiggum:  my uname -a says that i have>>> UBUNTU-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1.... but i updated to 2.6.24-21 am i missing something? i restarted also after updating ... how do i check the version my initrd.gz???
[19:47] <mongolai> misteralexander: IMO it's only a gnome problem. probably caused from a mangled attempt at a fix.
[19:47] <macvr> chfwiggum:  how u u log in? do u have to select the kernel 24-21 or default?
[19:48] <AlexMax> misteralexander: I doubt it, it's just a matter of figuring out what settings I need to delete
[19:48] <chrisf_> this channel help with the new dkms packaging system for kernel stuff?
[19:48] <unitedpotsmokers> but it is ok, many people are friendly here.. i just addicted to use ubuntu.. before it is make my life different, i need to explore a command, type something when to do semething, i like that, and one more thing, i very like the GUI, the interface of ubuntu. It looks great, and beautiful compare to XP and Vista... :)
[19:48] <misteralexander> mongolai:  Perhaps so, he's having allot of the same issues I did once, and all my fixes aren't working for him, that's why I thought it was a higher level problem, beyond gnome.
[19:48] <chrisf_> i cant compile 96.43.03 of the nvidia drivers and my card is specific for this driver version
[19:48] <chfwiggum> macvr: u can pick either.did u compile it yourself?if not chose the default-my best guess
[19:49] <chrisf_> 96.43.05 i mean
[19:49] <mongolai> misteralexander: yea, i gotcha :)
[19:49] <mongolai> AlexMax: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[19:50] <mongolai> it's old but might help you anyway
[19:50] <bullgard4> What program is suitable to concatenate 4 .flv videos?
[19:50] <macvr> chfwiggum: are u using kernel 24-21? no i didnt compile ... my 24-19 got updated to 24-21... now i checked in the initrd.gz... looks like it has 24-19 kernel? is the default always the old first installed kernel?
[19:51] <Pupeno> !es
[19:51] <Pupeno> !eo
[19:51] <chfwiggum> macvr: just restart that thing-worst might be a kernel panic, then u chose the other one
[19:52] <rhombus> I want to use a package that's in the intrepid tree, but I'm running gutsy. I've added the intrepid repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list and done aptitude update...
[19:52] <w0ls0n> hello all. How do I mount an smbfs volume? I tried /usr/sbin/mount_smbfs -N //wolson@Nelson/backups /data it said mount_smbfs didn't exist
[19:52] <jharkn> sounds like macvr's menu.lst maybe wasn't updated?
[19:53] <rhombus> When i specify the package I want to update, it wants to update libc6 as well. Is that going to totally break my system?
[19:53] <macvr> chfwiggum: i did the restart. i'm not sure if the new update got installed properly! did u get the update? what kernel are u using?
[19:53] <spiritssight> is there a problem updating right now with 8.10 I don't get response on #ubuntu+1
[19:53] <c4r1o> i have a volume problem on Dell 1530, any tip?
[19:54] <macvr> jharkn: i checked the menu.lst i have 3 options.> default, 24-21, 24-19 ... default points to initrd.gz which has kernel 24-19 is this normal?
[19:54] <mongolai> AlexMax: sorry. I just realized you might not be able to see the link. It's about how to reset gnome settings. basically you can do a "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity" and should be good. I don't know about compiz, nor do I know if this actually works, but it's worth a shot
[19:54] <Jacobbs> AlexMax
[19:54] <Jacobbs> be careful about using rm lol
[19:55] <macvr> jharkn: what kernel are u using?
[19:55] <chfwiggum> macvr: did u try cat /proc/version ?
[19:55] <chfwiggum> macvr: or uname -r
[19:55] <macvr> chfwiggum:  Linux version 2.6.24-19-generic (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7))
[19:56] <Fastly> i recently installed 8.10 beta and can't seem to find most programs listed in synaptic, including php, apache, mysql etc...
[19:56] <chfwiggum> macvr: so, now u know whats up
[19:56] <macvr> chfwiggum: which kernel are u using?
[19:56] <pen> is it possible to have drawer style in some apps?
[19:56] <Fastly> do i need to enable another repo?
[19:56] <jharkn> macvr: sounds like you need to change your menu.lst to me, I'm on arch though personally, not ubuntu (well I do have ubuntu on a partition)
[19:56] <chfwiggum> macvr: y? :)
[19:56] <pen> like in mac you have drawer style
[19:57] <AlexMax> mongolai: Whelp, that didn't work either
[19:57] <macvr> chfwiggum:  i know what is up... but not sure the update is fine?
[19:57] <AlexMax> that article
[19:57] <AlexMax> settings are being stored SOMEWHERE but i cant figure out where
[19:57] <balz> Users can be in multiple groups, correct?
[19:57] <genii> balz: Correct
[19:58] <balz> thx
[19:58] <jharkn> macvr: when I updated my ubuntu kernel last the menu.lst update was interactive and I could choose to do it manually.  maybe you did that by accident?
[19:58] <chfwiggum> macvr: if u dont know about kernel u better dont change anything, u best do your updates via the repos and be happy your box is running
[19:58] <macvr> chfwiggum: if u are using kernel 24-21 did u select the option 24-21 or  default in grub? if u selected default could u check the initrid.gz
[19:58] <Fastly> is there another channel for ibex?
[19:58] <unitedpotsmokers> hey, i just want to know, i heard openoffice has a new final version. the problem is u had update ubuntu via update manager just now, but when i open open office, it still an older version.. how to update open office to version 3.0?
[19:58] <jharkn> !ibex | fastly
[19:59] <Aberrant> Evening all - got an issue with LiveCD not seeing any of my hdds to install onto (fdisk -l returned nothing).  Thoughts/Ideas?  Using 8.04 liveCD
[19:59] <macvr> jharkn: i didnt get the gurb update :( are using 24-21?
[19:59] <Fastly> thanks jharkn
[19:59] <AlexMax> on top of that, I probably lost everything important i had in my gnome sticky notes
[19:59] <chfwiggum> macvr: what changed from 24-19 to 24-21?
[19:59] <unitedpotsmokers> hey, i just want to know, i heard openoffice has a new final version. the problem is i had update ubuntu via update manager just now, but when i open open office, it still an older version.. how to update open office to version 3.0?
[19:59] <macvr> chfwiggum: i dont ... thats what i'm trying to find out!
[20:00] <macvr> chfwiggum: i want to use my card reader... seems that it works in24-21
[20:00] <jharkn> macvr: just update your menu.lst manually, that's what I'd do. no I'm not, I'm on 2.6.27-ARCH.
[20:00] <chfwiggum> macvr: so either u learn about kernel or u just leave it be
[20:00] <mongolai> AlexMax: well, I'm fresh out of suggestions to fix. As a last resort, you can create a new user, then transfer your personal files over and chown them, or something like that... Good luck!
[20:00] <AlexMax> mongolai: That's what I'm probably going to have to do
[20:00] <macvr> jharkn: do u have a /boot/initrd.gz file?
[20:01] <jharkn> macvr: I'll check my /boot now for ya
[20:01] <mongolai> AlexMax: or totally remove gnome-desktop (i think it's called), then reinstall it, but that might put you back to square 1
[20:01] <chfwiggum> macvr: for ur card reader-did u try to find a module to append to your 24-19 kernel?
[20:02] <Tankado> I try to convert an .rpm file to .deb file using fakeroot alien --scripts VMware-workstation-6.0.*.rpm    but i get /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: alien: not found
[20:02] <Tankado> what should i do?
[20:03] <macvr> chfwiggum: i did but nothing worked... are u using ubuntu 24-21? i updated only via the regular updates? how come i got the kernel update as system required?
[20:03]  * Saisher LOL
[20:04] <misteralexander> Tankado:  Stupid question, I know, but you have alien installed, right?
[20:04] <jharkn> macvr: on my ubuntu /boot I have no initrd.gz but I'm not up-to-date either
[20:04] <chfwiggum> macvr: do u run 8.10?
[20:04] <Tankado> i installed fakeroot, i am tring to install it now so i guess that was the problem ;)
[20:04] <Tankado> sorry
[20:04] <jharkn> macvr: but I'd guess you shouldn't have one unless you did it yourself
[20:04] <bullgard4> What program is suitable to concatenate 4 .flv videos?
[20:04] <misteralexander> alien '/location/of/your/rpm/file.rpm' 'place/you/want/deb/dropped.deb'
[20:05] <macvr> jharkn: i think that newer versions dont have /boot/initrd.gz i heard that intrepid doesnt have that file too...
[20:05] <misteralexander> Tankado:  alien '/location/of/your/rpm/file.rpm' 'place/you/want/deb/dropped.deb'
[20:05] <unitedpotsmokers> hey, i want to install some software at appnr website, some of the buttons are orange color. the name of button is 'medibuntu'.. but i cant install that software.. what is medibuntu and how to install software with "medibuntu" type...
[20:05] <magnetron> bullgard4, maybe ffmpeg, i'm not sure. i'm sure ffmpeg supports the flv format
[20:05] <Tankado> yeah its working now, thanks
[20:05] <bullgard4> magnetron: Thank you.
[20:05] <macvr> chfwiggum: no i use 8.04... are u using 8.04 kernel 24-21?
[20:05] <jharkn> macvr: initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic is what I have
[20:06] <macvr> jharkn: i have that too..
[20:06] <spiritssight> I get this error when I try and do updates for 8.10: It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages.
[20:06] <magnetron> hi! how do i make sure that all the logs in irssi are disabled?
[20:06] <macvr> jharkn: thats my third option..
[20:07] <jharkn> !pastebin
[20:07] <Shurez> Лююдии, тут такое дело... настраивал дисплей (карта Ati radeon 9600) откуда нивозмись появилась вторая видеокарта (в настройках) и второй монитор! что делать?? как удалить??
[20:07] <Int0h_> Is it possible to install the PHP5 package in Ubuntu 8.04 Server without getting all the apache2 dependencies?
[20:07] <balz> How can I restrict a particular user to a single directory when he accesses my server via sftp?
[20:07] <SeamaeS> I did an apt-get update on my 8.04 server and it showed a kernel upgrade to 21.  Why isn't this upgrade on the USN list?
[20:08] <Skyrail> A recent automatic kernel update on Ubuntu Hardy has screwed up and it won't boot into ubuntu now and just leaves be with a shell, it gives me two revalidation failed messages (errono=-5) before giving me a bit of info and logging into shell
[20:08] <jharkn> macvr: do you have an equivalent file for the latest kernel?
[20:08] <jharkn> macvr: and a vmlinuz of course...
[20:08] <six2one> i upgraded to the new kernel as well...all seems fine on my end
[20:09] <sjea> what programs better then wine?
[20:09] <six2one> i did it on 2 machines and both are solid
[20:09] <sjea> sorry hello all
[20:09] <chfwiggum> sjea: vmware
[20:09] <sjea> thank you chfwiggum
[20:09] <happosade> sjea: cedeka
[20:09] <macvr> jharkn: i have the /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic and else... i could toggle the options... but i dont know if it is normal to hav the default option to remain at the older kernel after an update?
[20:09] <happosade> or how jo write it
[20:09] <Azhi_Dahaka> Shutdown from the cli does a regular shutdown of the system?
[20:09] <happosade> you
[20:09] <sjea> thx hap
[20:10] <six2one> crossover is alright as well..
[20:10] <six2one> but its not free
[20:10] <macvr> anyone has recently updated the kernel to 24-21 from 24-19 via the regular updates?
[20:10] <jharkn> macvr: no it isn't otherwise it wouldn't bother updating ;)
[20:10] <mongolai> Azhi_Dahaka: it can. It can also do other things like reboot, etc
[20:10] <Skyrail> Mhm, I've no idea why it messes up, I've updated macvr
[20:10] <six2one> macvr: i did
[20:11] <unitedpotsmokers> !medibuntu
[20:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> I mean, if i use shutdown from the cli for a timed shutdown, the internal process is the same that happens when I close via the Quit Button?
[20:11] <macvr> Skyrail: six2one : how do u choose in grub? do u toggle to option 24-21 or the default option?
[20:12] <vrivett> when I type ----- apt-get install -f  --------- I get the following
[20:12] <Skyrail> Well mine's is borked at the moment, so I couldn't help sorry macvr
[20:12] <vrivett> The following extra packages will be installed:
[20:12] <vrivett>   libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
[20:12] <Skyrail> Azhi_Dahaka: as far as I know it goes through the same shutdown process
[20:12] <mongolai> Azhi_Dahaka: well, that's getting a little bit tricky. gnome seems to first check certain programs if there's unsaved data and will prompt the user to save. I don't think the CLI shutdown program does this
[20:12] <six2one> macvr: my grub is set to default to the newest, which is selected to -21
[20:12] <vrivett> then ...... Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[20:13] <vrivett> The following extra packages will be installed:
[20:13] <vrivett>   libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
[20:13] <vrivett> The following packages will be upgraded:
[20:13] <vrivett>   libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
[20:13] <vrivett> 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 46 not upgraded.
[20:13] <FloodBot2> vrivett: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <vrivett> Need to get 0B/559kB of archives.
[20:13] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i do a timed gnome shutdown?
[20:13] <jharkn> macvr: if you have both of: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic
[20:13] <Arch3Angel> ok someone has to know what the heck is going on
[20:13] <jharkn> macvr: then update your grub.lst manually
[20:13] <macvr> six2one: when i choose the default option it loads 24-19! my initrd.gz file has 24-19 ... though i have the option to toggle to 24-21... is this normal?
[20:14] <six2one> macvr: it depends on your grub conf i think. let me check something on my end for you..
[20:14] <Arch3Angel> i got ubuntu 8.04 lts installed on that hp mini-note and iwconfig displays info for a wireless device however the switch will not turn on (blue) and only stays orange which is off
[20:14] <Arch3Angel> suggestions please
[20:14] <jharkn> macvr: paste your menu.lst
[20:14] <jharkn> !pastebin | macvr
[20:14] <rhombus> I have a gutsy server, and I need to run OpenSSH 5 on it (for the chroot support). It's not in backports. What's the best way to do this?
[20:14] <vrivett> can someone tell me what I need to do here is a paste of what is happening http://paste.ubuntu.com/57998/
[20:14] <mongolai> Azhi_Dahaka: shutdown will work, there is just a risk of losing unsaved personal data. Im not really sure of any way around this for a timed shutdown
[20:15] <plamar> what C++ editor do you guys use? What editor also supports find in files?
[20:16] <macvr> six2one: jharkn  http://paste.ubuntu.com/57999/
[20:16] <rhombus> plamar: vi
[20:16] <vrivett> I am having trouble running apt-get and have been up all night trying to fix it
[20:16] <jharkn> plamar: check out geany though I havn't really used it for programming yet personally
[20:16] <balz> How do I restrict a user to a single directory on a drive?  The drive is umasked to 002 and the user does not belong to the group that owns the drive, he is in a group by himself.
[20:17] <rhombus> balz: one way to do that would be chroot the user. OpenSSH 5 supports that.
[20:17] <rhombus> balz: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[20:17] <balz> rhombus hardy
[20:17] <six2one> macvr: we have a difference
[20:17] <alexmax> bah
[20:17] <balz> rhombus:  what is chroot exactly?
[20:18] <macvr> six2one: ?
[20:18] <rhombus> balz: then you're in the same boat that I am. I need OpenSSH 5, but it's not in hardy (or gutsy) and it's not in the backports.
[20:18] <six2one> macvr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58003/
[20:18] <rhombus> balz: It makes a directory of your choice appear as root to the logged in user.
[20:18] <balz> rhombus:  and this can't be done without openssh 5?
[20:19] <six2one> macvr: i think order matters
[20:19] <rhombus> balz: not easily. You can chroot with any ssh, but OpenSSH 5 has some tools to make it easy
[20:19] <rhombus> balz: or rather, it integrates an easy method
[20:19] <macvr> six2one: k... could u check something else out? do u have a /boot/initrd.gz file?
[20:19] <knut_> guerda?
[20:19] <six2one> macvr: checking
[20:19] <rhombus> balz: so the challenge is to find an OpenSSH 5 package that is going to work.
[20:19] <balz> rhombus:  gotcha.  that's a pain... do you know where i can find more information?
[20:20] <balz> yeah or to figure out how to chroot under whatever version of ssh i have...
[20:20] <rhombus> balz: If I did, I wouldn't be here :)
[20:20] <paul68> amenado:  are you here?
[20:20] <balz> rhombus:  right =)
[20:20] <rhombus> balz: don't waste your time -- focus on upgrading to OpenSSH 5
[20:20] <balz> rhombus:  okay.  well intrepid should be coming out soon, anyway
[20:20] <six2one> macvr: not in that location, where should it be?
[20:21] <rhombus> balz: oh -- well, OpenSSH 5 is *in* intrepid
[20:21] <Skyrail> I presume there is no easy way to roll back a dist-upgrade command easily, right?
[20:21] <rhombus> balz: but that doesn't help you if you have a production system running an older Ubuntu, does it?
[20:21] <macvr> six2one:  /boot/initrd.gz << i have the file in boot! how did i get this file!!! could u search if u have an initrd.gz file?
[20:21] <balz> rhombus:  production is a strong word. it's a mythtv box
[20:22] <rhombus> balz: Well, in my case I have a production server :)
[20:22] <balz> rhombus:  so if anything it lowers my productivity. but i love it anyway =)
[20:23] <rhombus> balz: i've tried adding the intrepid repositories, but then it pulls in all these scary dependencies, like libc6
[20:23] <rhombus> balz: I can just see this breaking everything
[20:23] <balz> haha yeah it's never simple, is it
[20:23] <balz> rhombus:  well hopefully when intrepid rolls out officially it shoudl be plenty stable
[20:24] <balz> rhombus:  i still don't think i'll be touching it within the first 30 days
[20:24] <rhombus> balz: that still doesn't help someone running an older Ubuntu.
[20:24] <six2one> macvr: looking....
[20:24] <macvr> six2one: k...
[20:24] <rhombus> balz: they're not going to do an upgrade on a running server
[20:24] <beejay77> welcome enerybody
[20:25] <xlizard> help! iwlagn: iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason -2
[20:25] <balz> rhombus:  you're talking about your server, right?  or will i not be able to upgrade to intrepid?
[20:25] <beejay77> anybody have "phun"?
[20:25] <strange> hey guys i just bought a new tb hdd, what is the best program to check if it has no faults?
[20:25] <balz> beejay77:  man phut =)
[20:25] <rhombus> balz: One doesn't normally do in-place upgrades on working servers.
[20:25] <six2one> macvr: didnt find anything
[20:25] <balz> *phun
[20:26] <thebossut> ok i am back apache2 fixed
[20:26] <thebossut> now to get php working
[20:26] <six2one> macvr: i think its some ramdisk thing? or netboot? i just searched my LTSP server for it and came up short
[20:26] <genii> strange: The Ultimate Boot CD has manufacturer-specific diagnostics on it, very useful
[20:26] <balz> rhombus:  what do you mean?  sorry i'm very very new to the ubuntu realm
[20:26] <thebossut> i have installed the package and set it up i think but if try to run test.php it wants to d/l the file
[20:26] <thebossut> so i know it is not handling it correctly
[20:27] <Skyrail> So, I did apt-get dist-upgrade to update the kernel as the auto updater wanted to, I restarted and now it won't boot into ubuntu, the loading screen stays for a while but then it logs into the shell and stays at that, I can't even look in my /boot/ folder as it doesn't seem to exist on the shell
[20:27] <macvr> six2one: well i dont know how i got the file!!! ok... how do i edit my menu.lst? should i just comment out the first options? how do i make 24-21 the default?
[20:27] <macvr> to start ?
[20:27] <rhombus> balz: Are you new to Linux?
[20:28] <balz> rhombus:  eeh.  I've been toying around with it for about 2 years... nothing advanced.  I'm just confused as to what you're saying exactly... is it not a good idea to apt-get dist-upgrade?
[20:28] <xlizard> Skyrail: that sounds you are in busybox ... you forgot to load storage or filesystem module
[20:28] <Chubbz> @macvr sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst its pretty self explanatory after that
[20:29] <six2one> macvr: you should be able to just move things around
[20:29] <Skyrail> xlizard: erm, I don't even know what busybox is :/
[20:29] <macvr> i noticed that u have menulst which ends with >>> vga=773 what does this option do?
[20:29] <sjea> vmware fusion is that the one i use?
[20:29] <rhombus> balz: It's not generally advisable to do that on a system that's stable and running, no.
[20:29] <Chubbz> @macvr I woulnd't mess around with it unless your trying to fix something
[20:29] <six2one> macvr: or better yet...copy the one you want to start and then plop it down on the top of the list and COMMENT the other one out
[20:29] <vrivett> root@vrivett-laptop:/media/cdrom1/pool/main/m/mono# apt-get install -f
[20:29] <vrivett> Reading package lists... Done
[20:29] <vrivett> Building dependency tree
[20:29] <rhombus> balz: Sometimes you have no choice, but...
[20:29] <xlizard> Skyrail, an mini mini mini linux tpo rescue if something is bad ...
[20:29] <limitedwisdom> I'm setting up a cron job and trying to delete any files older than 4 days...This is what I'm using - and it doesn't appear to be working http://paste.ubuntu.com/58009/
[20:29] <vrivett> Reading state information... Done
[20:29] <balz> rhombus:  gotcha, okay.  i guess dependencies get all mucked up
[20:29] <vrivett> Correcting dependencies... Done
[20:30] <vrivett> The following extra packages will be installed:
[20:30] <FloodBot2> vrivett: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <vrivett>   libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
[20:30] <six2one> and first off you might want to cp it to a .bak
[20:30] <genii> Skyrail: busybox is like a small set of commands that it dumps you to when it can't find actual system to load
[20:30] <limitedwisdom> any thoughts?
[20:30] <balz> rhombus:  is it possible to downgrade?
[20:30] <rhombus> balz: Things rarely go smoothly, let's just put it that way
[20:30] <balz> i see
[20:30] <mongolai> balz: it's usually ok to do that, but as rhombus said, production servers are a whole different game.
[20:30] <rhombus> balz: that I don't know. I haven't used Ubuntu much.
[20:30] <thebossut> i have installed the package and set it up i think but if try to run test.php it wants to d/l the file
[20:30] <thebossut> i have installed the package and set it up i think but if try to run test.php it wants to d/l the file
[20:30] <mongolai> ...or can of worms as it were
[20:30] <Skyrail> genii: xlizard: yeh, that's probably what it is, all lines start with (initramfs), all I did was install the update it wanted heh
[20:31] <Chubbz> @thebossut edit your httpd.conf to include the php mime type
[20:31] <balz> mongolai:  okay.  I guess i can afford to have issues on a mythtv box =)  I'll probably wait a few months after intrepid comes out though
[20:31] <rhombus> balz: Yeah, it sounds like mongolai has been there. When there are paying customers at the other end of a machine, extra rigor is called for
[20:31] <macvr> six2one:  Chubbz: i'm looking at the file... i have setup the such that the grub selects in 1 sec after the timeout? does it just recognize the first entry? or does it look for anything else
[20:31] <xlizard> Skyrail, THATS buybox ;) ... boot with a boot-cd into rescue mode und reinstall kernel image ... with some luck initramfs will be created correctly
[20:31] <balz> rhombus:  yeah that makes absolute sense.  I probably wouldn't even want to stray from LTS versions
[20:32] <thebossut> I  AM USING WEBMIN
[20:32] <thebossut> sorry caps
[20:32] <Skyrail> xlizard: right, I'll see what I can do :)
[20:32] <Phantomas> Can anyone help me configure my tv card? I have tried many times with no result .... It's an Avermedia Hybrid A16AR
[20:32] <balachmar> I want to use sbackup and I want it to make quite frequent backups, but I am right in thinking it doesn't start automatically? Because I set it up earlier today and rebooted, but it didn't continue to make backups. How can I make it start automatically?
[20:32] <rhombus> So, does anybody have any suggestions for how I can get an OpenSSH 5 package that will work safely in Gutsy?
[20:33] <thebossut> application/x-httpd-php      .php .phtml .php3        application/x-httpd-php-source         .phps
[20:33] <xlizard> anybody knows why iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode has been removed?
[20:33] <xlizard> in interrepid
[20:33] <genii> Skyrail: You can go into livecd, then mount the old / partition and then chroot there to reinstall linux-image-<whichever kernel version failed>        and it should rebuild the initramfs
[20:33] <sqawerlz> I want to make my own themes for gnome, how do I do that?
[20:33] <sqawerlz> !themes
[20:34] <xlizard> intrepid ... baahh ;)
[20:34] <Phantomas> lspci shows 03:03.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7131/SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[20:34] <azhar27> Does anyone know a good backup software for Ubuntu ?
[20:34] <Phantomas> please help me configure it
[20:34] <balachmar> @azhar27: sbackup
[20:34] <xlizard> genii: thank you for translating ;=)))
[20:34] <ichbinesderelch> azhar27: yes, "cp -r ~/ /backupfolder :P
[20:35] <Skyrail> genii: okay, thanks, I'll see what happens, it will be fiddly with my dodgy SATA support as well
[20:35] <balachmar> Azhar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite
[20:35] <azhar27> @ichbinesderelch - I was asking more of scheduled backups.
[20:35] <azhar27> @balachmar - Thanks.
[20:36] <limitedwisdom> any help with the cron job question?
[20:36] <xlizard> azhar27, rsync is nice ;)
[20:36] <meoblast001> wtf is up with CUPS... i deleted a printer off of my local system and it deleted my pritner off my server
[20:36] <meoblast001> wtf
[20:36] <j0nr> when i run ndiswrapper -m it tells me: * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
[20:36] <j0nr> does this mean it isnt working?
[20:36] <balz> rhombus:  i found a tutorial for installing this... is this something that could be useful?  http://sublimation.org/scponly/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[20:36] <meoblast001> i told it i wanted printers not to be listed on my laptop
[20:36] <meoblast001> i didnt want to delete the damn pritner from my print server
[20:36] <azhar27> xlizard : Will check out rsync and sbackup, Thanks.
[20:36] <meoblast001> i dont have time to deal with this crap
[20:37] <sharrell> I am getting an odd error when trying to install new packages on hardy: Setting up tzdata (2008g-0ubuntu0.8.04) ...
[20:37] <sharrell> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):
[20:37] <jharkn> cups is strange on ubuntu
[20:37] <balz> meoblast001:  CUPS can be a royal pain in the ass...  try #CUPS
[20:37] <rhombus> balz: Some people like it. Personally, I think one should be doing it with the sshd that's already running
[20:37] <jharkn> cups is obfuscated in ubuntu too though
[20:37] <DigitalFiz> what would i use to convert a xvid to a divx?
[20:37] <genii> limitedwisdom: Perhaps you want to specify full path in rm line
[20:37] <balz> oh so this sets up a completely different service?  different ports and all?
[20:38] <Phantomas> any ideas about my tv card?
[20:38] <meoblast001> blaz: thanks i just told them their software is retarded
[20:38] <meoblast001> balz rather
[20:38] <rhombus> balz: it's a wrapper
[20:38] <limitedwisdom> I think that is the full path isn't it? (sorry I'm a noob)
[20:39] <limitedwisdom> I mean, it's not the specific files, but those will change every day
[20:39] <meoblast001> balz: now i have to remember how to add this printer again... i didnt plan a 2 hour printer install in my plans for the day
[20:39] <balz> rhombus:  what's a wrapper?
[20:39] <balachmar> @DigitalFiz: you can using mencoder, or ffmpeg or even pitivi
[20:39] <j0nr> when i run ndiswrapper -m it tells me: * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
[20:39] <meoblast001> balz: a scanner wont work on monday, a printer wont work on wednesday... if i have to spend my whole life maintenanceing these things i'll throw all my computers out the window
[20:39] <DigitalFiz> balachmar, ty forgot about ffmpeg
[20:40] <meoblast001> i spent 6 hours setting up a scanner
[20:40] <balachmar> DigitalFiz: You're welcome
[20:40] <rhombus> balz: A wrapper is a program that intercepts connections and passes them on to a subordinate program
[20:40] <balz> meoblast001:  welcome to linux.  honestly i wouldn't recommend flipping out at people in a channel though
[20:40] <rhombus> balz: It "wraps" around the subordinate program.
[20:40] <balz> rhombus:  i see.  so what does scponly do exactly?
[20:41] <meoblast001> balz: so what options do i have? an OS where everything is slow and you never get done what you want to.... an OS where every problem takes a whole day to fix... or an OS where you have to have thousands of dollars just to buy it
[20:41] <meoblast001> i hate computers
[20:41] <rhombus> balz: I haven't looked that closely, i'd rather not do this with a wrapper
[20:41] <balz> rhombus:  fair enough
[20:41] <balz> rhombus:  time for some google-fu!
[20:42] <balz> meoblast001:  yeah that's the bottom line... computers are a b*tch.
[20:42] <Phantomas> anyone???
[20:42] <balz> meoblast001:  are you running ubuntu-desktop or server?
[20:42] <meoblast001> balz: desktop
[20:43] <balz> meoblast001:  there *should* be a relatively straightforward graphical app for printer sharing in gnome
[20:43] <balachmar> meoblast001: Truly dude, I haven't had much problems using printers and scanners on Ubuntu, much less problems really then on windows...
[20:43] <balz> i've always used config files and such though
[20:43] <meoblast001> balz: i shut GNOME off usually on my server.. only turn it on sometimes
[20:43] <meoblast001> balachmar: i bought all my hardware when i had windows.. havent bought any hardware since.. so that tells a lot
[20:43] <balachmar> meoblast001: You can share printers through samba if you want
[20:44] <balz> meoblast001:  yeah i do too.  well here's the graphical method, JIC.  http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/hardy/#ipp
[20:44] <balachmar> meoblast001: often the older the hardware the better on linux
[20:44] <Akazawa> How do I install nautilus scripts?
[20:45] <meoblast001> balachmar: why isnt it that way on windows?
[20:45] <limitedwisdom> doh
[20:45] <meoblast001> shouldnt it be equal on both
[20:45] <meoblast001> if you can do it on windows cant you do it in linux too
[20:45] <limitedwisdom> it is working :s I didn't notice that there weren't any files in there older than the date (there were a lot more than I expected!)
[20:45] <limitedwisdom> sorry for the silly question
[20:45] <epoch> what is the shell command to show all the stuff loaded into /dev/*
[20:45] <meoblast001> what's the point of drivers.. cant we just have a standard for all hardware?
[20:45] <balachmar> akazawa: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[20:46] <limitedwisdom> quit
[20:46] <Tundrayeti312> epoch: cd /dev && ls
[20:46] <epoch> Tundrayeti312, no
[20:46] <Grey_Loki> meoblast001, perhaps, if all hardware was standard
[20:46] <ichbinesderelch> meoblast001: that would be kinda boring though
[20:46] <epoch> i plugged in a usb device
[20:46] <epoch> but i dont know which /dev/* its on
[20:46] <Pitto> hi ppl..i'm triing to copy all mi home in the home of another user...but i have to "sincronize" the permissions...how to do?
[20:46] <meoblast001> ichbinesderelch: boring to have things that work?
[20:46] <balachmar> meoblast001: Because on windows more hardware manufacturers make drivers. And sometimes hardware manufacturers discontinue support for a specific windows version
[20:46] <kansan> i'm getting the workspace is still in use message on ubuntu hardy & grannymede.  there are no instances of eclipse open, i just restarted my computer... help? ;p
[20:46] <epoch> maybe i shouldnt ask this in ubuntu...since everything is GUI...
[20:47] <mongolai> Pitto: chown
[20:47] <ichbinesderelch> epoch: dmesg | tail in terminal and watch out for some /dev/ line
[20:47] <ShinobiTeno> hello! I have a problem: since last update of kernel:(2.6)19 to 21 on ubuntustudio, i get GRUB Error 15 everytime and unable to boot into new(21) kernel. Anybody have this problem?
[20:47] <balachmar> meoblast001: unfortunately some hardware vendors neglect linux, but their number is declining
[20:47] <ichbinesderelch> meoblast001: making things work is actually the funniest thing on computers, they are boring when tey are running completly flawlessly :P
[20:47] <meoblast001> Waiting for mysticgalaxiesserver.local...
[20:47] <meoblast001> why is it waiting
[20:47] <ShinobiTeno> menu.lst is ok btw. files present. I force reinstalled all *21. no change. 19 boots ok.
[20:47] <epoch> ichbinesderelch, wrong
[20:48] <Lykkefeen> I tried to install xmms2, but it seemed not to have any GUI and it was hard to implement a GUI, so my question is: Which lightweigth mp3 player with GUI can you recommend?
[20:48] <fwaokda> how do I make it so that my fonts in my desktop panels are white and not black?
[20:48] <Pitto> mongolai: i tried say cp -R home/mastroirmo home/murphy.... but it gives me error (access to mastroirmo denied)
[20:48] <ShinobiTeno> Lykkefeen: if you need player-only> audacious
[20:48] <Skyrail> genii: so how do I go about installing the newest stable kernel for ubuntu?
[20:48] <ichbinesderelch> epoch: marmalade?
[20:48] <mongolai> Pitto: you may need to be sudo to do that.
[20:49] <Pitto> yes but if i'm sudo
[20:49] <Pitto> it will not create the files like Murphy...and murphy is not "porpietary"
[20:49] <genii> Skyrail: Usually the     sudo apt-get upgrade           will do this, if one is available
[20:49] <balachmar> Lykkefeen: I don't know if it is lightweight enough, but banshee is pretty nice
[20:49] <mongolai> Pitto: i don't understand "Murphy"
[20:49] <spiritssight> where do I get help with installing themes
[20:49] <Pitto> my new user name
[20:50] <unpossible> my new username
[20:50] <Pitto> if i use sudo...the files owner becomes Root.. not Murpy
[20:50] <mongolai> Pitto: OK.
[20:50] <balachmar> fwaokda: I assume that that is a theme thing
[20:50] <Skyrail> genii: it gives me 0 upgrades/dist-upgrades, do I have to delete anything first?
[20:50] <Lykkefeen> balachmar: I'm searching a equivalent to the old winamp :) Just for mp3's I'll give audacious a try now :)
[20:50] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: sudo chown -R Murphy *
[20:50] <genii> Skyrail: You are currently chrooted from livecd into the old / or such?
[20:50] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: sudo chgrp -R Murphy *
[20:50] <Arch3Angel> i guess no one has an answer to the wireless broadcom issue
[20:50] <spiritssight> How do I get a theme installed, I have downloaded a couple from gnome-looks.org
[20:51] <Pitto> ok.this 2 after the copy as sudo...
[20:51] <Pitto> THX a lot :)
[20:51] <Pici> spiritssight: Just drag them onto the themes window in System>Preferences>Appearance.
[20:51] <Pici> !changethemes > spiritssight
[20:51] <Skyrail> genii: yeh, I mounted the / partition and chrooted to it, I'm at it now (it shows all the right files when I ls -l)
[20:51] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: of course you must do it right in the folder you need rights to change
[20:51] <cyban> spiritssight, depends, using emerald theme manager or just the default?
[20:51] <mongolai> Pitto: copying files from one user to another requires permissions - either root (which sudo provides) or user or group. The easiest way is "sudo cp (whatever)" then "sudo chown (whoever)"
[20:52] <balachmar> Lykkefeen: Then you should try beep media player -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beep_Media_Player
[20:52] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: you can use rsync for copying. It keeps permissions if "-a" is used.
[20:52] <mongolai> ShinobiTeno: that's a better solution!!
[20:52] <Pitto> ShinobiTeno: keep permissions or sync permissions?
[20:53] <Crusader_Tech> Could someone tell me why my Ubuntu desktop will play music on the hard drive, but when I try to play off of a flash drive, totem just opens, then closes.
[20:53] <Pitto> i've Grsynk... i'll try
[20:53] <dani> dani
[20:53] <genii> Skyrail: OK. So just:   apt-get install --reinstall linux-image              should grab latest and reinstall
[20:54] <mongolai> Crusader_Tech: can you access other files on the flash drive?
[20:54] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: rsync is a very powerfull copy and sync command. There are plenty of GUIs for it too. It can copy, sync or filter. do "man rsync" or get some GUI with "google rsync gui")) I use it to sync 1:1 my 500Gb disk.
[20:54] <Guest51733> guys i need your help, i'm trying to install madwifi but it tells me i need to make something, and i haven't a clue what to do
[20:54] <balz> rhombus:  when you said you didn't want to use a wrapper, why is that?
[20:54] <Lykkefeen> balachmar: Thanks, I'll give that a try after testing audacious :)
[20:54] <balachmar> Crusader_Tech: It should just play them normally if you can acces the files correctly
[20:54] <spiritssight> I tryed to drag the folder and or the xml file that is in the theme folder that I downloaded and it does not seem to work
[20:54] <Crusader_Tech> mongolai: Yes, I can open documents, and whatnot.  It's also not limited to any particular flash drive.
[20:55] <Guest51733> can someone help
[20:55] <Guest51733> plz
[20:55] <rhombus> balz: Because I don't trust it. I use OpenSSH because security is important to me. If I introduce a wrapper, I jeopardizing that security
[20:55] <cognitiaclaeves> Is it possible to install a .deb package into an alternate location?  ( I'm looking into creating a chrooted environment. )
[20:55] <balachmar> Guest51733: With what?
[20:55] <Crusader_Tech> mongolai: well, I take it back.  Now it wont play an MP3 off of my desktop either.  one sec while I check my codecs
[20:55] <rhombus> balz: i jeopardize, sorry
[20:55] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: you can also try GNOME Commander if you do much file operations)
[20:56] <Shortguy109> Hey guys. My sound has stopped working on my Dell Inspiron N 1525 after the latest update. This came with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[20:56] <balz> rhombus:  how serious of a security risk is it?  is this something I should be concerned about?
[20:56] <beejay77> anybody have experience with phun?
[20:56] <rhombus> balz: I don't know of any bugs in scponly that would make it vulnerable, but then I haven't really looked for any
[20:56] <beejay77> phun - Phun is a free game like 2D physics sandbox where you can play with physics like never before.
[20:56] <Lorelei-> Shortguy109: mine too, I wonder if its something to do with the Dell set up?
[20:57] <balachmar> Shortguy109: Any extra information, besides sound doesn't work?
[20:57] <rhombus> balz: If you're just using it for a machine in your living room, then it's probably fine -- but that's not what I need this for
[20:57] <beejay77> i have video card without 3d acceleration
[20:57] <kansan> how do i look file a file named .lock recursively in ~/workspace
[20:57] <Guest51733> balachmar: with terminal i think
[20:57] <balz> rhombus:  okay that's exactly what I was wondering.  I know you work for a company, so it's a totally different ballpark
[20:57] <Pitto> ShinobiTeno: i just looking in rsyink...to understand how to tell it to "change and update" permissions (i'm not anglophone...and have some troubles translate manuals :) )
[20:57] <Shortguy109> No sound devices or GStreamer plugins found"
[20:57] <beejay77> in win it work ok, in ubuntu it is not
[20:57] <spiritssight> can some one help with instaling threms from gnome-looks.org
[20:58] <Shortguy109> Sorry, "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[20:58] <Shortguy109> That happens whenever I try and change the volume.
[20:58] <balachmar> Guest51733: What do you want to do?
[20:58] <scarface> Is there a way to boot the Live CD with sound disabled?  The login sound is very loud here at work and I need a way to silence it.
[20:58] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: plz tell me this: is it one time operation or regular. 2nd: copy(add), do 1:1(sync), backup,.. what exactly do you want to have?
[20:58] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: graphics card? and u probably have to enable and install proprietary driver for 3D
[20:58] <macvr> hi... my system sounds dont work! but i'm able to get sound from vlc player and rhythom box
[20:58] <macvr> ?
[20:58] <Lorelei-> I got the same message when I just tried to change my volume too
[20:58] <balachmar> kansan: Something like grep -r lock .
[20:59] <Pitto> i need to copy all my home to another user home
[20:59] <Pitto> just changing user
[20:59] <Pitto> and have SAME pc and config
[20:59] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: does "another" home contains files you need to keep?
[20:59] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: there is no driver for 3d, my cardjust do not support 3d acceleration
[20:59] <Pitto> not..it's just created
[20:59] <Guest51733> balachmar: i need to install madwifi as ubuntu isn't allowing me to go wireless
[20:59] <ShinobiTeno> Pitto: 1:1 or add?
[20:59] <ShinobiTeno> ok
[21:00] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77:  hmm.. thought you said it worked in win nvm
[21:00] <Pitto> (i would rename primary home..but someone said me to not to do that)
[21:00] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: nvm?
[21:00] <danbh_intrepid> Guest51733: what wifi card?
[21:00] <Shortguy109> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[21:00] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: nevermind
[21:00] <Shortguy109> That happens when I run a sound test.
[21:00] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312:it works in regular windows on the same hardware
[21:01] <balachmar> Shortguy109: Maybe reinstall gnome-media
[21:01] <Necrosan> There were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?
[21:01] <ichbinesderelch> Necrosan: thats so dumb
[21:01] <dulakian> haha
[21:01] <King_Kickass> did the latest update mess up something?
[21:01] <Necrosan> It's funny, man!
[21:01] <Pici> Necrosan: Please don't.
[21:01] <Necrosan> 3 people
[21:01] <Shortguy109> Yes, the latest update has messed things up for three of us.
[21:01] <balachmar> Guest51733 Then install madwifi through the synaptic package manager
[21:01] <Shortguy109> - at least.
[21:01] <King_Kickass> because after restart of the latest update, i got an error and now ubuntu is running on low graphic mode
[21:02] <King_Kickass> and now i dont know what to do, reinstall the graphic drivers?
[21:02] <Guest51733> danbh_intrepid: its antheon something
[21:02] <Shortguy109> Reinstall of gnome-media did not work.
[21:03] <danbh_intrepid> Guest51733: atheros?
[21:03] <ddm> hi
[21:03] <King_Kickass> maybe upgrade to inrepid helps, thats running fine on my other machine
[21:03] <ddm> I just did mv command and overwrite a file
[21:03] <ddm> is there any way to undo it
[21:03] <ddm> ?
[21:03] <balachmar> Shortguy109: Maybe reinstall gstreamer pulseaudio?
[21:03] <Guest51733> danbh_intrepid: yeah atheros-5007eg
[21:03] <Shortguy109> balachmar: Okay, I'll give that a shot.
[21:04] <balachmar> ddm: nope
[21:04] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: any clue?
[21:04] <madmartian> anyone know why all my apps menus would disappear?
[21:04] <balachmar> ddm: sorry, we all did that sometime in our life I guess... Just be sure to be carefull with rm as well
[21:04] <danbh_intrepid> Guest51733: atheros is supported in intrepid, which is coming out in 2 weeks
[21:04] <aaron_> how I check my kernel version?
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> aaron_: uname -a
[21:04] <dulakian> aaron_: uname -a
[21:04] <aaron_> thanks
[21:04] <Guest51733> balachmar: how do i do that? i can get into the spm but can't find anyway to install madwifi
[21:05] <ichbinesderelch> aaron_: i think uname -a :P
[21:05] <zzattack> :P
[21:05] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: I don't understand your problem.. You card doesn't have 3D acceleration, but it ( 3D acceleration ) worked in Windows w/ same hardware? It that what u r saying?
[21:05] <scientes> ubiquity just froxe on Configuring apt:Scanning the mirror---------am i safe just to kill it and reboot?
[21:05] <Shortguy109> balachmar: Pulseaudio reinstall did not work. Finding an appropriate gstreamer package to reinstall.
[21:05] <Guest51733> danbh_intrepid: is that the new software version of ubuntu?? is there anyway i can use wifi at the mo then?
[21:06] <balachmar> Guest51733: Maybe I see them because I am on intrepid. Or maybe you don't have multiverse and universe repositories?
[21:06] <King_Kickass> should I do these commands? : sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[21:06] <King_Kickass> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:06] <King_Kickass> sudo reboot now
[21:06] <Lorelei-> It told me I already had the latest pulseaudio but that it couldn't find the gstreamer package
[21:06] <danbh_intrepid> Guest51733: well, I have a new atheros card, and the only thing that worked for me was ndiswrapper, but it worked very poorly.  Worked, just poorly.
[21:07] <unitedpotsmokers> magnetron,  can u show me how to use wine?
[21:07] <balachmar> Shortguy109: Then I am out of options...
[21:07] <Tundrayeti312> King_Kickass: Why are u in low graphics mode?  Did it fail to find your driver? or did it overwrite your xorg.conf?
[21:07] <Shortguy109> Darn.
[21:07] <unitedpotsmokers> i want to use Yahoo Messenger
[21:07] <aaron_> can I upgrade to gutsy? to the latest kernel that will be released in Intrepid
[21:07] <danbh_intrepid> aaron_: upgrade to hardy first
[21:07] <joaopinto> aaron_, no
[21:08] <magnetron> unitedpotsmokers, first thing you should do is to go to the WineHQ AppDB and check if your app works in Wine
[21:08] <Shortguy109> Thanks anyway, balachmar. :) See ya!
[21:08] <magnetron> !appdb | unitedpotsmokers
[21:08] <balachmar> ShortGuy109: Good luck!
[21:08] <King_Kickass> Tundrayeti312 it said it cant load X
[21:08] <unitedpotsmokers> ok i got it
[21:09] <pder> is it possible to install ubuntu on a computer?
[21:09] <Guest51733> thanks for all your help guys, i think i'll just have to wait for intrepid
[21:09] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: phun is rendering, in windows it is wokring slow, but in ubuntu it is not working at all
[21:09] <aaron_> i'm sorry I have hardy....is it possible to upgrade my kernel to latest
[21:09] <magnetron> pder, yes
[21:09] <ichbinesderelch> pder: yes
[21:09] <genii> Skyrail: Apologies on lag, work. Able to install the linux-image from the chrooted environment there?
[21:09] <chaddy> pder: I hear, in theory, yes
[21:09] <Tundrayeti312> King_Kickass: yeah... but why?
[21:09] <pder> thanks all
[21:10] <rhombus> Can i install a package and have it ignore all its dependencies?
[21:10] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: I don't know anything about Phun sorry
[21:10] <danbh_intrepid> aaron_: yes, when intrepid is released in two weeks, you will be able to upgrade and get the latest kernel
[21:10] <legendata> i got problem.... heres what I do: opening terminal, then used these commands: airmon-ng stop wlan1 , ifconfig wlan1 down , macchanger --mac 00:11:22:33:44:55 wlan1 ........ and as soon as I hit ENTER my ubuntu is goin' insane..... like i am pressing the ENTER without stopping, and I need to shutdown the system..... any suggestions?
[21:10] <LjL> aaron_, it's possible but not supported, it's difficult, and risks breaking stuff possibly badly. why do you need to?
[21:10] <SkiddyFisk> how come a bunch of my updates will only install with update-manager and not apt-get?
[21:10] <King_Kickass> I am a noob, I dont know why the update messed up my graphics i just want it back as it was
[21:10] <ichbinesderelch> rhombus: think with --force option
[21:10] <hausha> I've installed ubuntu for the 15th time today, but booting up still doesn't work: The message in boot says: "Booting from local disk..." and nothing more... The boot is on /dev/sdb1 and I have a file system at /dev/sda1 (not mounted)
[21:10] <amorphous> could anyone help me out with what I think is a dbus problem?
[21:10] <Skyrail> genii: not yet, 'tis a pain but I'm working on it, I presume I need to select the exact image to install right? Need to make sure I install the right one
[21:10] <rhombus> ichbinesderelch: thank you, I'll try that
[21:10] <balachmar> rhombus: I don't think so, because probably it wouldn't work anyway
[21:10] <joaopinto> SkyLeach, they will if you use dist-upgrade
[21:10] <joaopinto> ops, was SkiddyFisk
[21:11] <flugh> howdy all. been a long time. looking for a pointer in the right direction. I need to modify a header in the kernel source via patch to get my modem working. what/how do i reboot from the new kernel, do i need to make a new kernel (getting panic when trying to reboot with new kernel). gotta faq , something NOT Git?
[21:11] <aaron_> pioneer dvr 108 is not working when I went form Gutsy to Hardy
[21:11] <LjL> rhombus: no, you can't. you can manage to in some ways you probably should avoid, but it will be uninstalled at next update anyway.
[21:11] <Tundrayeti312> King_Kickass: Ok goto System->Administration->Sytem Log ( i think ) and check the Xorg.log it should give you some info as to what went wrong
[21:11] <fwaokda> where do i go to make it where removable media doesn't create a shortcut on the desktop when inserted?
[21:11] <rhombus> ichbinesderelch: maybe you have an idea where/how I can get a package for OpenSSH 5 that will work in Gutsy?
[21:11] <legendata> help me please :[
[21:11] <Arch3Angel> does anyone know how to get my kernel of ubuntu that is 8.04 lts and kernel 2.6.24-19 to 2.6.24-4 or later
[21:11] <LjL> flugh: uhm, which modem is that?
[21:11] <aaron_> its a known issue in Launchpad and there is no sudo apt-get command to upgrade from the kernel I'm in....I want to see it it was fixed in the latest kernel...but I hear your warning
[21:11] <unitedpotsmokers> magnetron,  i must register at wine website to view a list of application?
[21:11] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: i get: ERROR: Exception caught in main: Couldn't set video mode, SDL-error: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[21:11] <LjL> Arch3Angel, the current kernel is 2.6.24-21
[21:11] <Arch3Angel> i cant use broadcom without upgrading the kernel
[21:12] <magnetron> unitedpotsmokers, no.
[21:12] <ichbinesderelch> rhombus: no package in the repos?
[21:12] <flugh> Ljl: USBCOnnect 881, usb modem for connection to AT&T
[21:12] <danbh_intrepid> Arch3Angel: do you have linux-generic installed?
[21:12] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: it is not a problem of phun,but it work on both os so i can compare
[21:12] <rhombus> LjL, balachmar: why wouldn't it work? I tried using the OpenSSH 5 package from the intrepid repository, but it wants to pull in a bunch of terrifying deps like libc6
[21:12] <rhombus> ichbinesderelch: Not for Gutsy, no
[21:12] <Arch3Angel> i am trying to use my broadcom wireless card working and the chan has this as a topic
[21:12] <Arch3Angel> Everybody (especially bcm4311 users) please use <IP_ADDRESS> or later
[21:12] <rhombus> ichbinesderelch: Nothing in backports, either. Totally useless.
[21:12] <LjL> rhombus: and of course you shouldn't do that! but, just about as clearly, you really shouldn't install packages from Intrepid on Hardy.
[21:12] <joaopinto> rhombus, you can't use an intrepid package on a previous version !!
[21:13] <balachmar> rhombus: Because the package DEPENDS on the other packages. It needs functionality from those packages to work
[21:13] <Arch3Angel> advice?
[21:13] <melissa_> gfgfgf
[21:13] <danbh_intrepid> Arch3Angel: did you see my question?
[21:13] <rhombus> LjL joaopinto: Yeah, that's why I didn't proceed
[21:13] <legendata> i got problem.... heres what I do: opening terminal, then used these commands: airmon-ng stop wlan1 , ifconfig wlan1 down , macchanger --mac 00:11:22:33:44:55 wlan1 ........ and as soon as I hit ENTER my ubuntu is goin' insane..... like i am pressing the ENTER without stopping, and I need to shutdown the system..... any suggestions?
[21:13] <unitedpotsmokers> magnetron, there is no yahoo messenger support
[21:13] <flugh> i have an unsupported howto from sierra wireless, and a patch, instructions, can follow their instructions ok, but on the module and kernel install, i'm hinky about mucking up the stock 7.04 stuff (if it ain't broke dont fix it),
[21:13] <magnetron> unitedpotsmokers, too bad.
[21:13] <LjL> rhombus, what you can try is to get the *source* package for intrepid, and build it for your version.
[21:13] <Arch3Angel> all i did was install ubuntu and update using update manager
[21:14] <rhombus> balachmar: man -- the dependencies are already met for the previous version of the package I want to install. There are only version differences
[21:14] <dulakian> rhombus: if you absolutely have to do it, install build-essential and compile openssh from source, don't mix and match packages
[21:14] <ichbinesderelch> rhombus: i would recommend compiling it from source then
[21:14] <balz> When editing the permissions of a directory, do i need to enable the exectue bit for directories?
[21:14] <balachmar> rhombus: And maybe it needs stuff that where added in later versions
[21:14] <genii> Skyrail: just "linux-image"  usually is a synonym for the latest kernel which is available. However you can also specify the exact one if you like as well. Examining the old contents of the previous /boot/grub might help
[21:14] <rhombus> LjL: Is there an established procedure for this?
[21:14] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: It sounds like a driver issue of not supporting 3D... I would assume that you would need a 3D graphics card for any modern day physics simulation app... so I'm not sure how it worked on Windows if your graphics card isn't... that's all I can really say : /
[21:14] <halycon> Hey everyone what is the difference between something that is userspace & kernel? I am trying to configure LIRC and am going through the dpkg-reconfigure lirc and it is asking me what remote configuration I want to use and I am not sure what one to use. I have a ATI Remote Wonder(1st edition) and have blacklisted the ati_remote module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and now am trying to get everything setup with LIRC.
[21:14] <flugh> but kernel needs patch, recognizes modem as a storage device. the patch adds something to unusal_dev.h so it's seen as a modem, uses a different driver. unless i can build the driver against existing source, and FORCE the kernel to use the new module somehow
[21:14] <LjL> rhombus: add the source repository, do a "sudo apt-get update", type "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename" to install the build-time dependencies, then do "sudo apt-get --build source packagename"
[21:15] <rhombus> dulakian: build-essential? Can you point me to a docs URL?
[21:15] <aaron_> uname -a
[21:15] <aaron_> Linux Christian 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:15] <aaron_>   is the latest hardy kernel
[21:15] <balachmar> rhombus: Else they should have made it like depend on libc > 1.5
[21:15] <unitedpotsmokers> ok magnetron , i want to try internet explorer 7, its located in my drive c (ntfs).. how to get start? what should i do 1st?
[21:15] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: my main question is: why on win i can run simple games,but on ubuntu i have problems becaause of 3d
[21:15] <LjL> !build-essential > rhombus    (rhombus, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:15] <legendata> Help please! :[
[21:15] <LjL> aaron_: no, it isn't.
[21:15] <aaron_> how do I upgrade
[21:15] <LjL> !info linux | aaron_
[21:15] <King_Kickass> i found that in my xorg.log, what should I do? : (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[21:15] <LjL> aaron_: if you have the updates repositories enabled (like you should), you should get an automatic notification of the available upgrade.
[21:15] <joaopinto> beejay77, because just like on windows, games do not run with 3d unless you install the proper video driver
[21:16] <aaron_> I don't have it
[21:16] <rhombus> balachmar: the system already has libc6 in it
[21:16] <magnetron> unitedpotsmokers, you should find an installer file. everything in wine should be installed to the virtual C: drive that WIne makes
[21:16] <rhombus> balachmar: but the package was built for intrepid, so it looks for intrepid version numbers
[21:16] <aaron_> how do I proceed to enable them
[21:16] <balachmar> rhombus: Well if it has the correct version it doesn't get installed twice
[21:16] <unitedpotsmokers> oh i see...
[21:16] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: but my card does not support 3d - phisically
[21:16] <balz> what is the command to change a directory's permissions to 644?
[21:16] <rhombus> balachmar: the odds of it not working are small -- or I wouldn't even be considering this as an option
[21:17] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: so in windows i  do not have driver supporting hardware acceleration 3d
[21:17] <joaopinto> rhombus, you must build from source, packages having the same names does not mean they are compatible with whatever requires them
[21:17] <JediMaster> is there any way to figure out how much bandwidth different programs are using?
[21:17] <balachmar> rhombus: Then you could also compile it yourself
[21:17] <Arch3Angel> ???
[21:17] <unitedpotsmokers> wait i have a installer.. so what i need is copy the install into wine folder?
[21:17] <massmc> new update seems fine, graphics with nvidia look allot crisper
[21:17] <LjL> !kernel | flugh
[21:17] <genii> balz: man chmod
[21:17] <balachmar> rhombus: You are aware that you are trying to do advanced stuff, so you might have to go beyond the paved roads...
[21:17] <balz> genii:  i'm looking at man chmod, but i can't find the proper syntax...
[21:17] <LjL> aaron_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[21:17] <joaopinto> balz, read it carefull, is jut there
[21:17] <n-iCe> how can I set all the .bash_history to the user can't delete/modify it, and the os write on it to know what they do
[21:18] <balz> genii:  is that under synopsis?
[21:18] <LjL> balz: chmod permissions filename
[21:18] <balz> LjL thanks
[21:18] <King_Kickass> I wanna go sleep , tomorror i expect an update that undoes the damage of the previous one
[21:18] <LjL> balz: and yes
[21:18] <n-iCe> LjL: but what permission would be good
[21:18] <genii> balz: chmod 644 /path/name               if username logged in can't normally write there use sudo in front
[21:18] <SkyLeach> someone msg me?
[21:18] <LjL> n-iCe: he said he wanted 644
[21:18] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: i just want to not what is different -is it -driver is better in win than in ubuntu?
[21:18] <n-iCe> 644 ?
[21:19] <aaron_> !pastebin
[21:19] <n-iCe> chown won't work?
[21:19] <balz> genii:  thanks it worked!
[21:19] <legendata> someone can u help??
[21:19] <LjL> SkyLeach: use #test for testing irc please
[21:19] <Arch3Angel> i thought all i had to do was install ubuntu and then update it and the wireless would work
[21:19] <genii> n-iCe: No
[21:19] <n-iCe> ok
[21:19] <genii> balz: Yer welcome
[21:19] <LjL> n-iCe: chown changes a file's owner, chmod changes the permissions (modes). as the names say
[21:19] <SkyLeach> LjL, I'm not testing, my pager just went off :-/
[21:19] <balachmar> rhombus: Check this page for instructions: http://www.openssh.com/portable.html
[21:19] <aaron_> how do I pastebin?  I'm so sorry I did this just yesterday
[21:19] <LjL> !pastebin | aaron_
[21:19] <LjL> aaron_: copy, paste, and give me the resulting url
[21:20] <balz> In terms of permissions what is the purpose of adding the execute bit to directories?
[21:20] <SkiddyFisk> oh god a paste LYNCH MOB TIME
[21:20] <LjL> SkiddyFisk: ?
[21:20] <rhombus> balachmar: thank you.
[21:20] <LjL> balz, you can't traverse directories if the execute bit isn't set on them
[21:20] <LjL> balz: you can't "ls", in other words
[21:20] <flugh> LjL: thanks for the links. i'm under the impression (been a while since i did C coding) that if i modify a header file, i need to rebuild any source files referencing that .h. given that this patch mods a single .h file in the drivers/usb/ dir, do i need to recompile the kernel image? or should make modules have me covered?
[21:20] <balz> LjL:  meaning the user is restricted to a single directory?
[21:20] <dulakian> balz: execute on a directory allows something or someone to see inside the directory
[21:20] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: The driver for you card is probably a proprietary/binary/closed source one for windows that has all the functionality you need.  People have written drivers for your card w/ some or almost the same functionality but can't know everything that the windows driver does, so you lose some functionaility... So you can try to install the binary driver in linux if it is an option
[21:21] <aaron_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/58029/
[21:21] <n-iCe> genii: 664 allow them to write/edit
[21:21] <balachmar> rhombus: Good luck! :) Most of the times it is doable, but sometimes compiling from source can be pretty hard...
[21:21] <Skyrail> genii: I think I may have a problem, my root partition and boot partition are separate
[21:21] <fsanlu> hey guys. does anyone know i can configure my soundcard for one of its connectors to act as output. right now when i installed ubuntu it just the basics.. where the green is main output and pink is microphone. but i got a 4 speaker system and need one of the connectors to act as an output too
[21:21] <unitedpotsmokers> magnetron,  where are you..
[21:21] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: what do you mean binary driver?
[21:21] <LjL> flugh: depends what exactly it patches, but to me it looks like you need to recompile the kernel
[21:22] <unitedpotsmokers> someone can help me to install IE7 using wine?
[21:22] <balz> LjL, dulakian:  i'm confused.  I just created a new user and made his home directory on a separate drive... the X bit for directories is not enabled by default.  will tihs be a problem?
[21:22] <genii> Skyrail: Then when in chrooted old /    mount the partition which is normally /boot      into /boot again before running the apt-get install linux-image
[21:22] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: If you open the file it says "<PHONE_NUMBER>01011101010101" instead of readable code in C++ or whatever language
[21:23] <dulakian> balz: it's like this: read means they can see the contents of the directory, execute means they can get into the directory
[21:23] <LjL> aaron_, you have the repositories correctly enabled. try typing "sudo apt-get update" and see if the update appears - otherwise, it might just be that your mirrors weren't yet updated. this kernel update was out just today.
[21:23] <dulakian> balz: which execute bit wasn't set?
[21:23] <LjL> balz: not enabled for *who*?
[21:23] <Skyrail> genii: okay, so I've mounted / to /mnt/root, so I can just mount /boot/ to /boot/ and run it all?
[21:23] <dulakian> balz: cuz if it's the other column, then it doesn't matter for that user
[21:23] <balz> dulakian:  right. the "add x to directories" isn't set
[21:23] <flugh> LjL: bleh, then that leads to a modified source tree/headers for everything else. the maker states 2.6.20+ doesn't need patching. i may just try to upgrade the kernel package, a build-from-source thing that was just being put into apt back when i floated away :)
[21:23] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: So there is no way to tell what is inside or what it does.. which makes it difficult for people who want to have/create drivers for the card in question
[21:23] <LjL> balz: what does "ls -l thatdirectory" say exactly
[21:23] <dulakian> balz: there is 3 x bits
[21:23] <aaron_> thank LjL
[21:23] <aaron_> I see it
[21:23] <LjL> balz: what does "ls -l -d thatdirectory" say exactly (sorry, correction)
[21:24] <dulakian> balz: there is x for owner, x for group, and x for other
[21:24] <aaron_> do you think it will effect my 8800 GT NVIDIA card....I might have to install it again after the kernel update
[21:24] <scientes> how do i make a encrypted partition without too much trouble and back up the key someohow?
[21:24] <jadedoto> unitedpotsmokers try this http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Beta
[21:24] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: So you can either use the open source one w/ limited functionality or you can install the binary one from your card vendor ( this is normally the options )
[21:24] <esay> K3B eject to CD ,after K3B doesn't check writing data ,
[21:24] <LjL> flugh: wait, if 2.6.20 doesn't need patching, then why would you need to do anything at all with the kernel?
[21:24] <genii> Skyrail: If you are still in chroot then you can do like    mount /dev/sdX# /boot      like normal. If not chrooted then mount it to /mnt/root/boot        or such
[21:25] <balz> dulakian:  i understand that.  I purposely disabled execute for user/group/other ... but there's a 4th option" enable X for directory" i'm wondering what that is?
[21:25] <Skyrail> genii: okay, cool stuff, I'll give it a try :)
[21:25] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks jadedoto
[21:25] <balz> LjL:  just a second for that command
[21:25] <dulakian> balz: you are losing me, there is no 4th x bit
[21:25] <LjL> aaron_: if you installed its driver via unsupported means, then maybe. if you just used the restricted drivers manager, it shouldn't.
[21:25] <flugh> fiesty, i'm at 2.6.17 i think
[21:25] <esay> K3B eject to CD ,but after K3B doesn't check writing data
[21:25] <dulakian> balz: there are 3 r bits, 3 w bits and 3 x bits for any file
[21:26] <hausha> Whats wrong. I've tried to install ubuntu on 3 different harddisks... And there is always an error. Now the install stops while "configuring update manager". It just stops... Is probably not my hdd, what else can it be? My PSU ?
[21:26] <LjL> balz: X is not x
[21:26] <tobiasu> balz: X is for setting the x bit only on directories
[21:26] <balz> LjL:  oh maybe that's it. yeah it's X
[21:26] <balz> LjL:  drw-r--r-- 2 brunot brunot 1 2008-10-15 15:45 /media/500gb/brunot
[21:26] <flugh> not far from it. maybe they said 2.6.23, can't recall. i'll look into it though. maybe this weekend i can push up to 7.10. not enough bandwidth available now to get an upgrade done right now
[21:27] <tul> hausha: maybe a defected installation cd.
[21:27] <aaron_> you are correct....the restricted drivers manager actually worked but did not get the cards full capacity until using the one from NVIDIA
[21:27] <balz> tobiasu:  so what does setting the x bit only directories change?
[21:27] <aaron_> Thanks so much LJL....you have been a great help
[21:27] <hausha> tul, I had the same thought... It may also be my cdrom... Does it excist a MD5 checksum file for the ubuntu iso?
[21:28] <rgreening> balz: x bit on dir allows on to cd (change into) the dir if set for the proper user/group
[21:28] <balz> rgreening:  so why would a user's home directory not have xbit on dir enabled?
[21:28] <esay> Sysinfo for 'qqq-desktop': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.60GHz at 2612 MHz (5229 bogomips), , RAM: 738/757MB, 116 proc's, 1.1h up
[21:29] <LjL> balz, with the directory set that way, nobody (included the owner) will be able to "ls" it
[21:29] <esay> new kernel
[21:29] <balz> rgreening:  i set this user up manually with a custom home directory location so i want to be srue that he'll be able toa ccess it
[21:29] <LjL> properly
[21:29] <tul> hausha: didnt rly understand the question..
[21:29] <balz> LjL:  what's the diffference between ls and cd again?
[21:29] <rgreening> balz: user should have x bit, bur group and world should be unset
[21:29] <LjL> balz, err, "ls" lists the contents of a directory, "cd" moves you to that directory - they're really pretty different
[21:29] <hausha> tul, is there a way to verify the ISO image I downloaded?
[21:29] <rgreening> s/bur/but
[21:29] <LjL> !cli | balz
[21:30] <tul> ofcourse, md5 sum it.
[21:30] <LjL> balz, in other words, it's a terribly bad idea, unless you really know what you're doing, for a directory's owner not to have +x on it
[21:30] <Skyrail> genii: it gave me an error to writing to a paticular log, but besides that it looks like it worked, but is there anything I can check to see if it'll work before rebooting?
[21:30] <tul> hausha:  after that you could check cd itself at the bootine menu.
[21:30] <hausha> tul, yup doing it right now
[21:31] <balz> LjL: okay so i guess i goofed up lol.  How do I set the X bit to dir with the CLI?
[21:31] <genii> Skyrail: See if initrd.img  for a kernel exists in the chrooted /boot    dir
[21:31] <joaopinto> baldur_, chmod u+x dir
[21:31] <tul> hausha: i always burn it on slow speed to generate quality copy
[21:31] <balz> LjL:  wait disregard that last statement.
[21:32] <simone_> Salve a tutti
[21:32] <balz> LjL:  this user is only going to be using his home directory via sftp to back up files, so a lack of x bits shoulndn't be a problem right?
[21:32] <Skyrail> genii: yeh, two do, the old and the new, I presume it's right for all of the files (nearly all) to be -rw-r--r-- right?
[21:33] <joaopinto> balz, it is a problem, because sftp will try to chdir to the dir
[21:33] <tarelerulz> Can meta tags be added to .mp4  ?  If so is there program that support meta tagging for other contianer formats like , avi , ogg , mkv
[21:33] <genii> Skyrail: Yes those are correct permissions
[21:33] <Baldr> ciao a tutti
[21:33] <hausha> tui, the disc seems to be full of errors... sigh.. .burning a new copy ay 4x now :)
[21:33] <joaopinto> balz, and please be advised that an sftp user will also be able to ssh :)
[21:33] <LjL> !it | baldr
[21:33] <Baldr> Ops sorry
[21:34] <genii> Skyrail: You should be able now to select one of those initrd kernel versions from grub to boot the system into
[21:34] <Baldr> I thought this was an italian one :)
[21:34] <Skyrail> genii: right, so I guess the final thing is to restart and cross my fingers
[21:34] <LjL> balz: maybe it wouldn't, not sure, but i really don't see why a directory owner shouldn't have +x on it...
[21:34] <genii> Skyrail: Yup
[21:34] <balz> joaopinto:  yeah, this is all part of a very convoluted attempt to restrict a user to his home directory via sftp... i'm not doing so wel =)
[21:34] <hos1> hello is there any program like evernote for linux ?
[21:34] <hos1> or maybe onenote ?
[21:34] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: my card is sis650 and there is no vendor made driver for lin
[21:35] <blueeyez> any one in here using a anti virus program in ubuntu?
[21:35] <joaopinto> balz, use ftp with chroot :)
[21:35] <dulakian> balz: use scponly shell and stick to sftp
[21:36] <joaopinto> balz, the proper way to restrict an user to a particular dir is using a chroot enabled service
[21:36] <ShinobiTeno> blueeyez: no need for linux systems.) only to check windowze passthru traffic...
[21:36] <andresj> hey, how can I run an X (java) program as user "test", in the display belong to user "andresj"?
[21:36] <balz> joaopinto:  ftp can use chroot?  i assumed it couldn't since sftp apparently can't do it very well
[21:37] <andresj> if i remember well, it gives an error of permissions
[21:37] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: That's unfortunate... You may need to buy a different card for full windows functionality on linux
[21:37] <underwraps_2k> yes, I'm using Norton AV
[21:37] <blueeyez> yes but im wondering if im in a windows network does the anti virus programs know of windows trojans?
[21:37] <joaopinto> balz, yes it can, if you use a chroot capable ftpd
[21:37] <ShinobiTeno> andresj: make sure test is in andresj group.
[21:37] <balz> joaopinto:  can you suggest one?  btw, ftpd is an ftp daemon, right?
[21:37] <joaopinto> baldur_, yes, pure-ftpd
[21:38] <andresj> ShinobiTeno: is that all? :O seems much easier that I thought it would have been! haha. and are there any side effects on that?
[21:38] <joaopinto> baldur_, you can even have virtual users, ftp users without a system account
[21:38] <joaopinto> ops, was balz
[21:38] <euge> I'm trying to log into a Hardy gnome session without a monitor attached for testing.  Will Login Automatically work with that setup?
[21:38] <rab> having a problem with mysql-server-5.0 starting on boot by default, what init scripts should i be checking?
[21:39] <joaopinto> rab, /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[21:39] <euge> I have a script that's supposed to run in the startup session, but it's not running.
[21:39] <Dreamglider> can i read floppy disks that were formated on a pc with windows ?
[21:39] <balz> joaopinto:  okay thanks!  just to be clear though, if i wanted to, i could restrict it to a user?
[21:39] <joaopinto> balz, yes
[21:39] <Skyrail> genii: failed to boot again :|
[21:39] <ShinobiTeno> andresj: actually no. For every file, you add permissions for all,.. or add group permissions and put users into this group..
[21:39] <rab> joaopinto, i run that manually with sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start and all is fine ... just doesnt happen on startup ... what calls that on startup (im looking for that line)?
[21:39] <balz> joaopinto:  okay cool thank you so much
[21:39] <ekinplektrum> Ok. I have an apache webserver running and it's sharing /var/www/ and I want /www/ to link to my desktop, so I shade my desktop. How do I link those directories?
[21:39] <balz> thanks to everyone who helped!  sorry i'm so n00bish today!
[21:40] <beejay77> Tundrayeti312: for laptop? that is my problem,but thanks anyway,i was just wondering is there any solution
[21:40] <andresj> ShinobiTeno: what? I have no idea what you're talking about... lol. I am in display :0 as andresj. I want to run a program as user test, in this same display.
[21:40] <joaopinto> rab, have you checked /var/log/daemon.log ?
[21:41] <andresj> ShinobiTeno: (inside the pogram, only files belonging to test would be writable, etc.)
[21:41] <Tundrayeti312> beejay77: double-bummer.... good news is there are some really cheap linux laptops u can buy these days
[21:41] <joaopinto> andresj, you do not need touch groups to do that, it's just a matter of setting the DISPLAY session
[21:41] <ShinobiTeno> andresj: well, i dont know that specific things) but UNIX permissions work that way)
[21:41] <wall-e> hi. i just installed ubuntu 8.04 desktop last night. today i am trying to configure the network connection because i am not getting any internet. My desktop is connected to an ethernet cable to a router. the router is connected to the cable modem box through another ether cable. the cable modem box is connected with a dsl cable from the wall. I am on my macbook that is connected wirelessly. i want to set up my network conne
[21:41] <joaopinto> and assigning acces from the X running session, with xhost +
[21:42] <Dreamglider> Why does only one floppy drive show in ubuntu when i have two installed ?
[21:42] <joaopinto> ShinobiTeno, he is not asking about permissiones, he is asking about exporting a graphical window
[21:42] <andresj> yes, exactly, that's what I wanted to know, joaopinto, how do i do that?
[21:43] <joaopinto> andresj, on the X session, open a terminal and: xhost + or safer, xhost +IP