[12:16] <Zaire> is there an easier to setup e-mail server thats also got a gui or web interface?
[12:16] <Zaire> also as secure as postfix
[12:18] <Zaire> ??
[12:19] <flaccid> not that i know of Zaire
[12:20] <Zaire> great :S
[12:20] <flaccid> why don't you just learn postfix?
[12:21] <Zaire> cause at the moment I really don't have the patients
[12:21] <NiklasofVienna> hello everyone
[12:21] <NiklasofVienna> hello everyone /me is here
[12:22] <steph> anyone knows asterisk software ?
[12:23] <Zaire> I might have the patients but Ive been having issues with my websites functionality and it has me at my wits end
[12:23] <flaccid> ur a doctor :[
[12:23] <flaccid> well if there is anything i can help with
[12:24] <mnoir> steph: prolly the guys in #asterisk do
[12:24] <steph> asterisk is pbx server
[12:28] <Zaire> so how the hell does bind9 work anyway...I got it installed and configured but thats as far as I could get
[12:32] <Agent_bob> Zaire bind9 help in this channel seem to be, how you say? non-existant.    maybe try ##linux
[12:33] <Zaire> alot of help seems to be non-existant in here -_-
[12:33] <Zaire> if anyone is interested in computer case modding though should check out my site ...I need more ppl lol http://www.bcmodding.com
[12:33] <flaccid> there is a bind channel
[12:33] <flaccid> but your question has an answer as long as the bind manual...
[12:34] <flaccid> bind is a dns server
[12:34] <Zaire> I don't read manuals...they generally confuse me more cause they never get straight to the point
[12:34] <flaccid> you won't to know it works, can you be specific?
[12:34] <Bubba_Gump> true
[12:34] <Bubba_Gump> but you learn so much more :D
[12:35] <flaccid> well you aint going to get anywhere if you refuse to read documentation
[12:35] <Zaire> not really since it confuses me
[12:35] <flaccid> then its a lack of intelligience
[12:35] <flaccid> to learn this stuff, you need to read
[12:35] <Zaire> no thats crappy manuals
[12:35] <julle> is ther anyone with resolution problems?
[12:35] <Bubba_Gump> get a good manual :)
[12:35] <flaccid> well the manual for bind is certainly not crappy..
[12:35] <julle> i can only get 800x600 but my xorg.conf is correct
[12:36] <flaccid> start learning dns: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name_system
[12:36] <Zaire> and if not getting anywhere that way were true I wouldn't be using linux at all....ive never read a single manual for linux its all on my own
[12:36] <flaccid> that directly relates to your level of ability ...
[12:37] <rance> hey I've got a strange problem with sound on a new kubuntu install, the sound card is detected and the device is loaded, alsamixer LOOKS ok, but no sound, what am I missing
[12:37] <Bubba_Gump> true, to drive a car, you need only instruction
[12:37] <Bubba_Gump> to build one, you need manauls
[12:37] <Bubba_Gump> start reading
[12:37] <flaccid> exactly...
[12:37] <flaccid> "anyone can drive a car"
[12:37] <flaccid> and don't expect to be spoonfed as a substitue for reading!
[12:39] <mordof> hmm
[12:39] <Bubba_Gump> rance: what type of sounds are you missing?
[12:40] <rance> all of them, its like there is no volume, but all the knobs are turned up I can find
[12:41] <RoKFiT> does kubuntu have an auto updater?
[12:41] <rance> but there is something wrong, KsCD has the volume at 40% and its locked so that it can not be changed
[12:41] <flaccid> ur not missing sounds, ur not hearing them?
[12:41] <flaccid> RoKFiT: yes adept
[12:41] <rance> yes, as far as I can tell somehow I have no volume
[12:41] <RoKFiT> do i have to compile kubuntu?
[12:42] <RoKFiT> does kubuntu need to be compiled?
[12:42] <flaccid> !multimedia > rance
[12:42] <rance> and yes I double checked all the cords to make sure they were in the right places
[12:42] <Zaire> where the hell do you get off talking to me like that to btw
[12:43] <flaccid> RoKFiT: no
[12:43] <RoKFiT> is kde4 the current version?
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> Zaire: we don't, we only help
[12:43] <flaccid> who are you talking to Zaire?
[12:43] <Zaire> not from what I can tell
[12:43] <rance> !multimedia
[12:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> Zaire: and, speaking from experience, direticing to manuals, is a from of help
[12:44] <Zaire> I don't have the time nor the patients to be screwing around with a manual right now
[12:44] <RoKFiT> is kde4 the current version?
[12:44] <flaccid> Zaire: were you expecting a magic trick to solve your problem?
[12:44] <RoKFiT> for kbuntu?
[12:45] <flaccid> RoKFiT: the current version of what?
[12:45] <flaccid> no
[12:45] <Zaire> obviously not but then I guess you can't stop trying to make this really personal with me
[12:45] <Agent_bob> Zaire we know..    and we don't have the time or patients to mess with anyone that wont read the manuals
[12:45] <RoKFiT> kde
[12:45] <flaccid> kubuntu uses 3.5x iirc
[12:45] <flaccid> Zaire: i have nothing personal against you br0
[12:46] <RoKFiT> does kubuntu have any desktop effects?
[12:46] <flaccid> besides not reading manuals :)
[12:46] <flaccid> RoKFiT: yes, lots
[12:46] <flaccid> RoKFiT: it has lots if you install xgl
[12:46] <RoKFiT> awesome
[12:46] <RoKFiT> compiz, beryl, others?
[12:47] <Agent_bob> Zaire you can get as angry as you want.  fact is. when people like you "who wont try to learn how, only ask some one eles to do it for them"  asks people like... well flaccid for example, for the answers you wont even try to find; it kinda pisses us off too.
[12:47] <flaccid> not sure, i'm sure more is possible, RoKFiT
[12:48] <RoKFiT> is kubuntu, kubuntu edgy, is that the version i want?
[12:48] <flaccid> agreed bob. we've all done our time (reading). everyone has to do it
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ah  didn't see him leave....
[12:48] <flaccid> RoKFiT: use edgy
[12:48] <RoKFiT> okay
[12:48] <RoKFiT> thanks
[12:48] <RoKFiT> brb
[12:49] <flaccid> yes thats the one RoKFiT, then follow the xgl guide for edgy
[12:49] <flaccid> !xgl
[12:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:49] <flaccid> ^^^ should be edgy specific instructions
[12:50] <Chemist> hi
[12:51] <flaccid> time for another coffee
[12:51] <flaccid> heya
[12:52] <flaccid> installing updates on dialup is v fun
[12:52] <bradley747> qualcuno parla italiano??
[12:54] <flaccid> !italia
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <flaccid> !italy
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <Agent_bob> !it
[12:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:55] <RoKFiT> i dont have a dvd burner, so which iso's will i need for 64bit?
[12:56] <RoKFiT> just the one?
[12:56] <RoKFiT> desktop-amd64.iso?
[12:56] <Agent_bob> if you want the 64bit version use the 64bit install iso
[12:57] <Agent_bob> 32bit will work
[12:57] <RoKFiT> but there is a desktop and alternate
[12:57] <Agent_bob> !alternate
[12:57] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:58] <RoKFiT> kool!
[12:58] <ranmaru> ciao
[12:58] <Agent_bob> !it | ranmaru
[12:58] <ubotu> ranmaru: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <Agent_bob> !en
[12:58] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:02] <julle> with IM messenger is the most similar to msn messenger? aMSN or Gaim?
[01:04] <angasule> julle: amsn is almost the same than msn messenger
[01:04] <julle> angasule: ok thx
[01:07] <RoKFiT> why do i want edgy and not dapper drake
[01:08] <flaccid> julle: i like kopete IM
[01:08] <flaccid> RoKFiT: updated packages for xgl stuff
[01:08] <RoKFiT> dapper doesn't have that?
[01:08] <flaccid> xgl better in edgy as they fixed some stuff up
[01:09] <RoKFiT> are they going to fix it up for dapper?
[01:09] <flaccid> it has it, but its not as stable as edgy for compiz etc.
[01:09] <flaccid> i don't think so. edgy was made for a reason and this is one of them
[01:09] <RoKFiT> dapper seems more popular according to the forums, is it?
[01:10] <mohammed> in system settings , monitor & display control modules doesn't load ! what to do to fix the situation ?
[01:10] <flaccid> its been out longer so thats probably why its more popular
[01:10] <RoKFiT> oh edgy is just the new version?
[01:10] <Jucato> mohammed: try this command: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"
[01:10] <RoKFiT> what is the difference in the two?
[01:11] <Aondo> RoKFiT  yes it is the new version
[01:11] <mohammed> ok
[01:11] <Aondo> with updated packages, kernel and alot of stuff
[01:11] <RoKFiT> i just don't want to lose anything i might not get
[01:12] <Aondo> how can you lose it if you dont have it yet? :)
[01:12] <ubuntu_> can i mount the hd after i startup from the cd pls?
[01:12] <RoKFiT> i mean i dont want to install edgy and find out that dapper is what i wanted
[01:13] <Aondo> you probly want edgy
[01:14] <mohammed> should i close the session now ?
[01:14] <Jucato> mohammed: you don't need to restart anything except system settings
[01:14] <RoKFiT> what is the channel edubuntu intended for?
[01:14] <flaccid> RoKFiT: you want edgy!
[01:14] <flaccid> !edubuntu
[01:14] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[01:15] <RoKFiT> oh
[01:16] <ubuntu_> i installed ati drivers and messed up my bootup.. can i mount the hd to undo the changes to my xorg file having started up from the cd?
[01:16] <mohammed> sorry , but it didn't work
[01:16] <flaccid> ubuntu_: yes
[01:16] <flaccid> ubuntu_: or do it from shell by booting into single user mode
[01:17] <ubuntu_> how pls? regular mount syntax only gives me an empty mount point.. or maybe i just can't remember the right device for my root partition..
[01:18] <justin1278> hello
[01:19] <Jucato> mohammed: sorry, I don't know anything else
[01:19] <justin1278> Can anyone help me, I would like to know how I can change the look of my taskbar
[01:19] <flaccid> ubuntu_: start with sudo fdisk -l to look
[01:19] <mohammed> never mind , I'll keep track on it . thanks :)
[01:19] <flaccid> !mount > ubuntu_
[01:19] <noiesmo> justin1278, in kde
[01:19] <justin1278> noiesmo, yes
[01:20] <noiesmo> justin1278, right click and go configure panel
[01:20] <noiesmo> taskbar that is
[01:20] <justin1278> ok
[01:20] <justin1278> also i have seen people make their taskbar look similar to the Vista taskbar
[01:20] <justin1278> how can I do that?
[01:23] <ubuntu_> flaccid, ty.  i did have the wrong device. lemme try with the correct one
[01:24] <justin1278> Anyone know how I can make my taskbar look similar to Vista?
[01:24] <noiesmo> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35445 justin1278
[01:24] <RoKFiT> how does kubuntu install packages?
[01:25] <Jucato> apt-get, aptitude, Adept, etc
[01:25] <justin1278> noiesmo, how do I use it?
[01:25] <RoKFiT> adept is gui?
[01:25] <Pupeno> any recommendation of a program to easily rip DVDs into theora files ?
[01:25] <Pupeno> ogg theoras.
[01:26] <flaccid> adept is a gui yes
[01:27] <noiesmo> justin1278, that was a quik google search go to www.kde-look.org
[01:27] <helge> I have to run "check.sh" in terminal, How do I do it? Whats the magic word?
[01:28] <flaccid> helge: chmod +x /path/to/check.sh && /path/to/check.sh
[01:28] <flaccid> replace /path/to with the absolute path of check.sh
[01:28] <helge> Thanks alot!
[01:29] <flaccid> np
[01:29] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT dpkg is  the debian package manager.  apt aptitude adept synaptic and dselect are all frontends to dpkg    (ubuntu is based on debian)
[01:29] <flaccid> the first one is just chaning it to executable. it may already be executable
[01:30] <Agent_bob> flaccid or ./path with a relitive path ?
[01:30] <flaccid> sure
[01:30] <flaccid> relative to pwd
[01:30] <Agent_bob> jes
[01:31] <Jucato> Adept is a frontend to Apt which is a front end to dpkg which is the Debian package manager, which is....
[01:31] <Agent_bob> Jucato does adept call apt-get ?
[01:31] <Jucato> Agent_bob: yep
[01:31] <Jucato> iirc
[01:31] <Agent_bob> hmmmmm
[01:31] <Chemist> list
[01:32] <Agent_bob> /
[01:33] <soulrider> has anyone seen TK around ?
[01:33] <soulrider> !seen tk
[01:33] <ubotu> tk is on IRC right now!
[01:33] <soulrider> =/
[01:33] <soulrider> he aint showing up on my list mr bot
[01:35] <Jucato> soulrider: maybe he's on another channel. do a /whois
[01:35] <Jucato> ok he's not on any channel lol
[01:35] <soulrider> yeah
[01:35] <soulrider> stupid bot
[01:35] <Jucato> well, the bot said "on IRC", not "in #channel" :P
[01:36] <Jucato> so, technically, he's correct
[01:36] <Jucato> s/he's/it's
[01:37] <Agent_bob>  /whois is not a bot call it's an irc client command
[01:40] <Flosoft> hey
[01:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You were looking for me yesterday ?
[01:41] <Flosoft> all my IAX clients crash when they try to access the audio device
[01:41] <Flosoft> I figured out it has something to do with iaxcomm
[01:41] <Flosoft> any solution for this?
[01:41] <ubuntu_> ok so i was pretty sure that ati drivers backed up my xorg.conf but it turns out that it didn't... comptuer won't boot up from hd anymore.. how prog do i use to set up my xorg.conf again without reinstalling everything pls?
[01:41] <larson99> linux rocks
[01:41] <ubuntu_> s/how/what
[01:42] <helge> Silly me I have tried quite a few times now, but I cant make, I try to run the script(?) called check.sh and it is placed here: /home/helge/Desktop/Ny katalog   ...HELP!
[01:42] <pointwood> any ubuntu members here?
[01:42] <flaccid> ubuntu_: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:42] <ubuntu_> i'm sure it will once it's working.  when it's not working, it's not too rockin
[01:42] <flaccid> ubuntu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:42] <flaccid> i thinkt hats it
[01:43] <flaccid> chmod +x "/home/helge/Desktop/Ny katalog/check.sh" && "/home/helge/Desktop/Ny katalog/check.sh"
[01:43] <flaccid> ^^ helge
[01:43] <william> is there an mplayer plugin for firefox under kubuntu?
[01:44] <helge> Thanks, I copy these and save them so that I can learn!
[01:44] <helge> There is an " in the end is that supposed to be there?
[01:44] <Agent_bob> "<ubuntu_> ok so i was pretty sure that ati drivers backed up my xorg.conf but it turns out that it didn't... comptuer won't boot up from hd anymore.."   <---  i wish someone would explain to me how xorg.conf and the computer booting form the hd are even remotely related...
[01:44] <flaccid> yeah helge
[01:44] <helge> OK!
[01:44] <ubuntu_> flaccid: xorg serer not installed but there is an "xorg". still though, the xorg.conf has the ati stuff.. can't recall if it said ati stuff in there before i installed the ati drivers though
[01:44] <tuna> Hello
[01:45] <tuna> I need help with Adept
[01:45] <tuna> ...again...
[01:45] <Agent_bob> flaccid it backwards  xserver-xorg
[01:45] <flaccid> ah yeah
[01:45] <soulrider> oh damn
[01:45] <tuna> For some reason, whenever I try to dowload packages, I get this error message:
[01:46] <soulrider> i got disconnected like 5 mins ago
[01:46] <tuna> http://supertunaman.com/adept_not_working.PNG
[01:46] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: after installing the ati proprietary drivers the machine hangs at startup when kde is supposed to start.  i'm assuming something's not happy within xorg? or something.
[01:46] <Agent_bob> soulrider see Hawkwind
[01:46] <helge> Flaccid:
[01:46] <helge> Path to current working directory contains critical characters
[01:46] <helge> like an asterisk, backslash, quotes or spaces. Since some system
[01:46] <helge> tools will not cope with such characters this script will abort now.
[01:46] <helge> I guess it wasnt to be.
[01:47] <helge> I guess it wasnt meant to be.
[01:47] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ that's X not starting   has nothing to do with the system booting up.
[01:47] <tuna> oops
[01:47] <tuna> wrong link
[01:47] <tuna> here it is: http://supertunaman.com/adept_not_working
[01:47] <tuna> Can somebody help?
[01:48] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ i was making the point that the system boots up when it loads the kernel and mounts the root partition.  every thing after that is a process not part of the boot-up.
[01:48] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: but no key combos work. it seems to freeze up on the blue background "kubuntu" screen, right before login screen
[01:49] <william> whats the plugin to watch video through firefox?
[01:49] <flaccid> tuna: run this from konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:49] <flaccid> tuna: if there is an error, pastebin it
[01:49] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: ok, point taken.  but it's still not playing nice.
[01:50] <helge> Flaccid: It worked when I renamed the folder to just "ny" Thanks!
[01:50] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ so boot into failsafe,recovery,single-user mode and reconfigure your xserver
[01:50] <noiesmo> william, mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[01:50] <ubuntu_> i have an ati x1950pro. xorg asks what x server driver... vesa?
[01:50] <noiesmo> william, its in multiverse repos
[01:50] <Jucato> flaccid: is tuna trying to upgrade?
[01:50] <ubuntu_> agent_bob, am trying right now. i just mounted the hd after live cd startup
[01:51] <caf_> ah, hello
[01:51] <Agent_bob> isn't there a generic ati driver.
[01:51] <flaccid> Jucato: don't know. but this will find the problem
[01:51] <caf_> thank you guys for this OS
[01:51] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ and you chrooted into the mounted partition so you could configure X ?
[01:51] <Jucato> flaccid: won't dpkg --configure -a or apt-get -f install do as well?
[01:51] <Jucato> just wondering really
[01:52] <flaccid> wouldn't mind seeing the actual problem first before using -f
[01:52] <Jucato> ah
[01:52] <william> says its already installed
[01:52] <Agent_bob> flaccid -f == fix missing
[01:52] <william> mozilla-mplayer
[01:53] <tuna> -quote- [17:49]  <flaccid> tuna: run this from konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -/quote-
[01:53] <flaccid> yeah we dont know the problem yet
[01:53] <tuna> Sorry, was away
[01:53] <Jucato> Actually -f == fix broken
[01:53] <helge> Why do this happen? I tried to put sudo in first as well to no avail:
[01:53] <helge> You are either not running this script from the console
[01:53] <helge> or simply do not have console ownership.  Requirement failed.
[01:53] <helge> Unable to determine XFree86 Version. Stopping now.
[01:53] <helge> What Xfreeversion am I running? I am in edgy
[01:53] <flaccid> helge: i have no idea what you are running
[01:53] <Agent_bob> flaccid apt-get install -f  is never a bad idea
[01:54] <flaccid> kubuntu does not use xfree86, it uses xorg
[01:54] <helge> Ok, so no use in this then
[01:54] <flaccid> bob, i just like to know the problem before it gets fixed :)
[01:54] <helge> Flaccid: But thanks
[01:54] <Agent_bob> kubuntu does not (by default) use xfree86, but XFree86 can be installed on *buntu.
[01:55] <flaccid> np
[01:55] <larson99> why would anyone chose xFree86 over xorg?
[01:55] <helge> Well the thing is that I would try to check out a better driver to my video card from ATI, I dont think the driver I have now is any good
[01:55] <flaccid> !ati > helge
[01:56] <caf_> xorg is fast
[01:56] <Agent_bob> flaccid that command you posted wont tell you what the problem is.   it will in fact do reletivly the same thing.
[01:56] <caf_> I can tell you that, I'm on a 300 MHz using a mach64
[01:56] <flaccid> lets see bob
[01:57] <ubuntu_> agent_bob, i'm going to restart from hd to see if it worked. ty for the help. hopefully brb.
[01:57] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ wait
[01:57] <ubuntu_> ok
[01:57] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ one Q    did you use a "chroot" command ?
[01:57] <ubuntu_> i uninstalled the ati drivers via adept too
[01:58] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ chroot ?
[01:59] <danny500> is there a program for Linux were I can take MP3 files and convert them into a format that a normal cd player without mp3 capabilities can read.
[01:59] <caf_> it's you_!
[01:59] <lexi_> hi @all. need some help. just upgraded initramfs-tools against edgy-proposed. kernel does not want to boot any longer after that.  complains modprobe can?t open shared object file  libc.so.6. anyone with that problem ?
[01:59] <Jucato> danny500: burn the MP3's as an audio cd in K3b
[01:59] <Jucato> danny500: you need libk3b2-mp3 to do that
[02:00] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ why i'm asking is if you didn't reconfigure that in a chroot env   then you reconfigured the xorg.conf that the live cd was using.    in that case if you didn't copy that from /etc/X11  to  /mountpoint/etc/X11   you have changed nothing.
[02:00] <ubuntu_> agant_bob: no i wasn't able to write to hd but i was gonna cross fingers and hope that just uninstalling ati drivers would do the trick <blushes a bit>
[02:00] <tuna> Ok, i just ran the code I was told to
[02:00] <danny500> so It'll do the conversion automatically?
[02:00] <tuna> I got this error:
[02:00] <Jucato> danny500: yep
[02:00] <danny500> ok thanx
[02:01] <tuna> Setting up k3d (<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2) ...
[02:01] <tuna> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1348, in ?
[02:01] <tuna>     main()
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1342, in main
[02:01] <tuna>     rv = action.run(global_options)
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 865, in run
[02:01] <Jucato> !pastebin | tuna
[02:01] <ubotu> tuna: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:01] <tuna>     pkg.read_version_info()
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 535, in read_version_info
[02:01] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_  ok   well if it doesn't work.    try booting to runlevel 1 and doing the reconfig from there.  then just issue an    init 2       much simpler.
[02:01] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: good thing you know what's going on here. lemme get a pen :)
[02:01] <tuna>     raise PyCentralError, "package has no field Python-Version"
[02:02] <tuna> __main__.PyCentralError: package has no field Python-Version
[02:02] <tuna> dpkg: error processing k3d (--configure):
[02:02] <tuna>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:02] <Jucato> tuna stop
[02:02] <tuna> Setting up gnupg (1.4.3-2ubuntu3.1) ...
[02:02] <tuna> Setting up katapult (<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2~edgy1) ...
[02:02] <tuna> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:02] <tuna>  k3d
[02:02] <tuna> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:02] <tuna> tuna@tuna-laptop:~$
[02:02] <tuna> Oops...
[02:02] <tuna> I'm sorry, everyone
[02:02] <tuna> I'm an idiot. :(
[02:02] <ubuntu_> boting to runlevel 1 = single user mode?
[02:02] <ubuntu_> *booting
[02:02] <Agent_bob> yes
[02:03] <ubuntu_> ok
[02:03] <tuna> So now that that's behind us, what do I do now?
[02:03] <tuna> *is still embarrased*
[02:03] <ubuntu_> how about that use of adept to uninstall the ati package.. did that work on my hd or the live partition probably?
[02:04] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ most likely on the then running live CD
[02:04] <flaccid> !find single user
[02:04] <ubotu> Found: k6fftwgel-dev, k6fftwgel2, k7fftwgel-dev, k7fftwgel2, libapache-singleton-perl (and 3 others)
[02:04] <helge> I know for a fact that I have an Sapphire Radeon 9250, but Edgy says that I have ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 Radeon Mobility 9200 , Should I care or what?
[02:04] <flaccid> dang
[02:04] <Agent_bob> which is full of sound and fury signifing nothing.
[02:04] <flaccid> yeah
[02:04] <flaccid> !ati
[02:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:05] <tuna> g2g
[02:05] <loxs> Hey anyone here manage to get ubuntu working with AD?
[02:05] <tuna> goodbye, everyone
[02:05] <winbond> whats the command to see what distros ati driver supports?
[02:05] <loxs> keep getting this error kinit(v5): Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm while getting initial credentials
[02:06] <delight> !beryl
[02:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:06] <delight> !beagle
[02:06] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3160 kB
[02:06] <ubuntu_> ok off ty try to reconfigure in rl 1. ty again. brb to let you know either way.
[02:07] <delight> does someone know how to disable beagle from autostart in kubuntu ?
[02:07] <ubuntu_> very kind of you
[02:07] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ ffr,  you can use  chroot  on the live CD to do work on the installed system
[02:08] <Agent_bob> but how need a cd when you have a bootable *nix
[02:10] <Agent_bob> delight i can tell you the most likely place to look.   things that start at boot time start from /etc/rc#.d/*   and things that start from kde's startup dir are in ~/.kde/autostart/   or something like that.   other things that kde autostarts are global /etc/kde*   or /usr/share/kde*
[02:13] <delight> Agent_bob thnx ... I'll give it a shot
[02:17] <delight> Agent_bob /etc/xdg/autostart/beagled.desktop i guess maybe thats the placee
[02:20] <Agent_bob> !xdg
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <Agent_bob> you using xdg ?
[02:21] <Jucato> xdg - Freedesktop.org spec for menus, afaik
[02:21] <Agent_bob> but if so then yes probably
[02:21] <Agent_bob> menu-xdg - freedesktop.org menu compliant window manager scripts
[02:34] <guiden> is there a page, that I provide some sort of translation funktions of other pages in a different language, I don't want to read hard tutorials in english when I'm drunk and stuff
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> guiden: rosetta maybe
[02:41] <caf_> heh, english is hard to read when drunk for english people
[02:41] <caf_> :)
[02:45] <flaccid> wondering about a way to install a server install of ubuntu from say livecd image within a vm
[02:46] <nickv111> I just posted this to #ubuntu,  but no response, so here goes.
[02:46] <nickv111> When I boot into the install CD, my sound card is recognized as an HDA ATI SB, and all of the mixers recognize it as so. However, when I boot into my recently-installed system, the sound card is recognized as a Realtek ACL883. Weirdest of all, when I do cat /proc/asound/cards, it returns "HDA ATI SB" correctly when in my install, which is correct. I really just wish my sound card were recognized right.
[02:47] <caf_> hey, you should see what kubuntu does to my AWE64.
[02:48] <winbond> !ati
[02:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <nickv111> It's an ATI sound card
[02:49] <caf_> an ATI sound card?!
[02:49] <nickv111> Yes, an ATI sound card.
[02:49] <caf_> wow I never knew that existed
[02:49] <nickv111> It's a chipset.
[02:49] <nickv111> Laptop.
[02:49] <caf_> Oooh.
[02:50] <nickv111> Grr. I just reinstalled to fix this problem, it worked for a while, and then stopped
[02:50] <nickv111> I just want it to not recognize it as a Realtek ACL883, and instead recognize it /properly/ as an HDA ATI SD
[02:50] <nickv111> Erm, SB
[02:50] <nickv111> They use the same driver, I think.
[02:50] <nickv111> snd_hda_intel
[02:50] <nickv111> And, like I said, catting /proc/asound/cards returns the right card
[02:50] <nickv111> I just don't know why this happens.
[02:51] <guiden> Admiral_Chicago ok
[02:53] <caf_> heh, I have to probe my card everytime I boot.
[02:54] <caf_> I don't know how to have kubuntu do it automatically.
[02:54] <nickv111> How do you probe your card?
[02:54] <nickv111> alsaconf?
[02:54] <caf_> modprobe
[02:54] <nickv111> Ah
[02:54] <nickv111> Check out /etc/modules
[02:54] <nickv111> Just add your modules to that
[02:54] <caf_> I have to sudo modprobe snd_sbawe every day
[02:55] <winbond> what do i need to install before installing fglrx?
[02:55] <winbond> in 6.10
[02:55] <ubuntu> How does one use sudo commands from within KDE. meaning not going to shell
[02:55] <nickv111> caf_: echo "snd_sbawe" >> /etc/modules
[02:55] <robotgeek> !ati > winbond
[02:55] <robotgeek> ubotu: kdesu
[02:55] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:56] <robotgeek> ubuntu: kdesu
[02:56] <winbond> robotgeek:TY i read that , its pretty bad guide
[02:56] <ubuntu> so is kdesu a utility?
[02:56] <nickv111> winbond: I disagree. I read it, and it's a very comprehensive and good guide. What about it do you not understand?
[02:56] <ubuntu> where in menu can I find it?
[02:57] <nickv111> ubuntu: It's not in the menu. Go Run->kdesu command
[02:57] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: what programs do you want to run?
[02:57] <winbond> nickv111: i understand everything , it just doesnt work after the installation
[02:57] <robotgeek> ubuntu: hmm, you usually type kdesu konqueror or something similiar at (alt + f2) menu
[02:57] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: as root
[02:57] <ubuntu> ah
[02:57] <ubuntu> ok
[02:57] <JohnFlux> if you use alt+f2  you can always use the "run as user"  gui
[02:57] <JohnFlux> under Options>>>
[02:58] <ubuntu> I can't seem to use run
[02:58] <ubuntu> I am running Kubuntu live cd
[02:59] <ubuntu> edgy
[02:59] <robotgeek> ubuntu: okay, the password is ubuntu, i think
[02:59] <ubuntu> when I click "run command"
[02:59] <ubuntu> nothing happens
[02:59] <JohnFlux> press  alt+f2
[02:59] <ubuntu> again
[02:59] <ubuntu> nothing happens
[02:59] <JohnFlux> hmm
[03:00] <JohnFlux> that's screwed up
[03:00] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: what are you trying to run as root anyway?
[03:00] <ubuntu> should alt+f2 open the run command menu?
[03:00] <JohnFlux> yes
[03:00] <ubuntu> I am trying to run konquerer I guess to copy a flash plugin to mozilla directory
[03:01] <ubuntu> also, I am having weird issues when I try to shut down the computer (when running live kubuntu
[03:01] <ubuntu> it never shuts down but hangs
[03:01] <ubuntu> :(
[03:02] <JohnFlux> hmmm
[03:02] <cmweb> ubuntu you should be in ubuntu
[03:02] <cmweb> i mewan #ubuntu
[03:02] <ubuntu> I was running mandriva one 2007 before this
[03:02] <ubuntu> and it worked flawlessly out of the box
[03:02] <ubuntu> is kubuntu less stable?
[03:02] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: yeah I don't know what's going on
[03:03] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: it's strage
[03:03] <JohnFlux> strange
[03:04] <newToKubuntu> ok
[03:04] <newToKubuntu> One more question
[03:04] <winbond> what repo do i need to install the restricted modules?
[03:05] <newToKubuntu> how can I get beryl and xgl packages?
[03:05] <robotgeek> winbond: restricted
[03:05] <newToKubuntu> and is it xgl or aiglx that I should go with?
[03:05] <newToKubuntu> I always thought xgl was better performance but many distros suggest using aiglx
[03:06] <Murrlin> evening all
[03:06] <winbond> !restricted
[03:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <apokryphos> I get significantly begger perfomance with Xgl rather than aiglx or nvidia drivers
[03:07] <apokryphos> perhaps that'll change though; a lot of people think aiglx is *the* future
[03:07] <newToKubuntu> u mean with nvidia drivers?
[03:08] <winbond> !repositories
[03:08] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:12] <newToKubuntu> ok
[03:12] <newToKubuntu> so if I add the repositories to beryl and do a fetch
[03:12] <newToKubuntu> it should update my local list
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> and if I do a search for beryl. it should show it
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> right?
[03:13] <qbit> yup
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> sweet
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> thats nice
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> I should give it a try
[03:14] <newToKubuntu> thanks for all the help
[03:14] <qbit> I tried it but couldn't get it to work
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> newToKubuntu: i think beryl servers are still dwon
[03:14] <qbit> video card only has 128 megs ram though, and I suspect that is why
[03:15] <caf_> damnit, I can't play lego island on WINE yet :(
[03:17] <Launchpad> evening guys
[03:17] <caf_> maybe it's my card
[03:17] <Launchpad> i found a server edition on my kubuntu cd// weeee
[03:18] <caf_> I remember DX5 had MMX emulation of D3d
[03:18] <caf_> but wine doesn't have that
[03:18] <Launchpad> but im going to buy that offical ubuntu book from barnes and noble
[03:19] <ubuntu> hello
[03:19] <ubuntu> can anyone help me install my video drivers?
[03:20] <winbond> what video card?
[03:20] <ubuntu> nvidia 7600 gs
[03:20] <caf_> Wine has come a long way though.
[03:21] <winbond> ubuntu: did you read the guide?
[03:21] <caf_> I remember when it couldn't run a thing, now it can play Doom!
[03:21] <ubuntu> no
[03:21] <winbond> !nvidia
[03:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <ubuntu> can i set ubuntu to auto-login root?
[03:23] <winbond> ubuntu: not a good idea
[03:23] <mrg> agent: i found the backup of the original xorg.conf, swapped that in and presto. thnx again.
[03:24] <ds_> I need help...How do I mount my CD drive...It says it has a mount point (optical disc), but df in console didn't show it
[03:24] <mrg> <-- ubuntu_ or whatever it is the live cd names the default user
[03:27] <ubuntu> how do i get updates?
[03:30] <winbond> in which repo is the "linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic"
[03:30] <Agent_bob> ubuntu "can i"  is a question of your ability.   'is it possable to setup linux to automaticaly login root'  short answer 'yes'  long answer however would include reasons that it's generally discurraged as well as some of the defaults that would have to change.
[03:31] <winbond> ubuntu: you will have a icon come up y the clock that will say there are new updates
[03:31] <ubuntu> Agent_bob: can you inform me as to how to go about doing this?
[03:31] <winbond> ubuntu: just click it, anter password and fetch updates ,
 how do i get updates? <-- you enable the repositories and refresh the database  the automatic updateder should take care of the rest...
[03:31] <Agent_bob> ubuntu i can.
[03:32] <mhasan> hi
[03:32] <Agent_bob> ubuntu do you want console auto-root login or gui auto-root login ?
[03:32] <ubuntu> gui
[03:32] <mhasan> when I try to run any command as root from kubuntu, it gives me "conversation with su failed" error
[03:32] <mhasan> does anyone have any ideas why?
[03:33] <robotgeek> mhasan: using sudo?
[03:33] <mhasan> from run
[03:33] <mhasan> in kde
[03:33] <mhasan> i use kdesu whatever
[03:33] <mhasan> it asks me for password
[03:34] <mhasan> when I give it root password
[03:34] <mhasan> it says conversation with su failed
[03:34] <mhasan> and exits
[03:34] <robotgeek> mhasan: what do you mean root password?
[03:34] <robotgeek> mhasan: did you enabled root account?
[03:34] <Agent_bob> ubuntu there is a gui way.  look in the menu      or alternatively.  you can edit /etc/kdm/<something>  and enable root login then set root as the default autologin
[03:34] <mhasan> yes
[03:34] <robotgeek> !root
[03:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:35] <robotgeek> mhasan: enabling root breaks gui apps, read that link on how to fix
[03:35] <ubuntu> thank you
[03:35] <ubuntu> brb
[03:35] <fildo> root sudo, thats dirty
[03:35] <mhasan> oh
[03:35] <mhasan> ok
[03:35] <mhasan> didn't know that
[03:35] <mhasan> :(
[03:35] <robotgeek> mhasan: it can be fixed, so not an issue
[03:35] <mhasan> this link???  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:36] <robotgeek> mhasan: yes
[03:36] <robotgeek> mhasan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#head-a76e0b38808fca380fa209babb080d60ffe0ec8e
[03:36] <monica> i have the realtek alc850 sound card, and to get xmms to play sound, i have to direct it to "hw:0,2" for it to play ... is there a way to make this device the default?  it's really annoying not having sound in other apps that can't choose the output device
[03:37] <nicola> Hi guys
[03:37] <robotgeek> monica: why not use amarok :)
[03:37] <nicola> I have a problem with gpg and kubuntu.org repo
[03:38] <nicola> any way to fix it ?
[03:38] <robotgeek> nicola: what is the issue?
[03:38] <nicola> let me create a pastebin
[03:38] <RoKFiT> hello on shutdown the computer keeps getting stuck on the press enter screen
[03:38] <monica> robotgeek: will that solve all of my problems with plugins in browsers, etc?
[03:38] <robotgeek> monica: i'm not too good with sound, so i dont know. sorry
[03:39] <RoKFiT> anyone?
[03:39] <nicola> I need the url of the GPG key for kubuntu.org repo but I can't find it
[03:39] <robotgeek> nicola: hmm, maybe ridell's key  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[03:40] <nicola> I'll try, thanks
[03:40] <monica> can anyone help?  i'm stuck with trying to get spdif out working on my alc850 sound card
[03:40] <RoKFiT> hello, kubuntu is stuck on the remove disk press enter screen, what should i do?
[03:41] <robotgeek> monica: hmm, i was googling to see if that card works on the motherboard i was planning to buy, i did come across some site with instructions
[03:41] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: i guess your only option right now is to "Power off" and post the kernel log
[03:42] <monica> robotgeek: it's integrated with my neo2 platinum mobo
[03:42] <arathald> I'm having trouble getting the ATI drivers (V5200) working in Kubuntu -- I tried everything (the guides, wikis and just about everything I could think of) and it still insists on using the Mesa driver -- can anyone help me please?
[03:42] <robotgeek> monica: yes, the socket 939 motherboard, i guess
[03:43] <RoKFiT> what is the default password for root
[03:43] <caf_> I think it's the password you entered on installation isn't it?
[03:43] <RoKFiT> i didn't enter one
[03:43] <robotgeek> !sudo > RoKFiT
[03:43] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: is this a live cd?
[03:43] <RoKFiT> yes
[03:43] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: ubuntu
[03:43] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT there isnt one
[03:44] <RoKFiT> so it's ubuntu, or there isn't one
[03:44] <robotgeek> damn, they must have changed it
[03:44] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: i am not sure, it was ubuntu before. try the blank one first
[03:44] <Agent_bob> there isn't a root passwd on the live CD per default
[03:44] <RoKFiT> i tried blank, no go
[03:45] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT sudo -i
[03:45] <arathald> RokFiT: there's no root password by default -- the root account is disabled. use sudo (look it up if you don't understand)
[03:45] <naught101> is there any way to edit a pdf on kubuntu? i want to extract an image with text over
[03:45] <monica> can anyone help?  i'm stuck with trying to get spdif out working on my alc850 sound card
[03:45] <RoKFiT> okay
[03:45] <robotgeek> naught101: you can use kpdf to 'cut' the image
[03:46] <winbond> in which repo is the "linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic"
[03:46] <nicola> thanks robotgeek , it worked
[03:46] <robotgeek> nicola: cool
[03:46] <nicola> you should put it in evidence in the sitw
[03:46] <nicola> ehm site
[03:47] <naught101> kpdf looks really crap though, no anti-aliasing
[03:47] <robotgeek> nicola: where, again?
[03:47] <Agent_bob> !info linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[03:47] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic does not exist in any distro I know
[03:48] <ubuntu> anyone know why the dumb installer is telling me "no root file system" when i have it selected in the mountpoint selections AS /
[03:48] <robotgeek> naught101: hmm, i think it is in options. it renders stuff very nicely
[03:48] <nicola> the error was
[03:48] <nicola> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perch la chiave pubblica non  disponibile: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[03:48] <nicola> so I went to kubuntu.org but I coudn't find any info abot
[03:48] <nicola> (it's italian)
[03:48] <robotgeek> nicola: this was just after fresh install?
[03:48] <nicola> no
[03:48] <t3hwiz0rd> the edgy installer keeps telling me "No root file system" in the installer, even though I've pointed it AT a 30 gb partition on hdd with / as the mount
[03:49] <winbond>  !info linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:49] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS> does not exist in any distro I know
[03:49] <winbond>  !info linux-restricted-modules
[03:49] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules does not exist in any distro I know
[03:49] <winbond> wtf
[03:49] <caf_> why is wine out of the repositories in kubuntu?
[03:49] <robotgeek> winbond: just install that directly
[03:49] <caf_> also a lot of games are out too.
[03:49] <caf_> like frozen bubble. what's up with dat?
[03:49] <winbond> robotgeek: how do i do that?
[03:50] <RoKFiT> where do i configure autologin?
[03:50] <robotgeek> winbond: linux-restricted-modules-common
[03:50] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: in kde, if you go to settings -> login manager
[03:50] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: helppp lol
[03:51] <Agent_bob> t3hwiz0rd is it a ntfs files system  or is it not set to format it ?
[03:51] <RoKFiT> thanks
[03:51] <t3hwiz0rd> it was a band new filesystem...
[03:51] <t3hwiz0rd> its a brand spankin new harddrive
[03:51] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: dude, you are l33t. you don't need no helpin :)
[03:51] <Agent_bob> so remove the partition and try again
[03:52] <Agent_bob> t3hwiz0rd linux don't live in M$ space without scba gear
[03:52] <t3hwiz0rd> MY 1337NESS SHALL NOT BE MOCKED SIR! 0.o lol
[03:52] <SupremeBeing> anybody know how to use the c-media sound chip with alsa?
[03:52] <t3hwiz0rd> Agent_bob: the drive is brand new there was no ntfs on it.
[03:52] <winbond> robotgeek: that worked , ty
[03:52] <robotgeek> winbond: cool
[03:52] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: is this off a live cd?
[03:52] <t3hwiz0rd> well isn't kubuntu entirely done by live cd?
[03:53] <Agent_bob> t3hwiz0rd no
[03:53] <robotgeek> they still have the alternate install cd
[03:53] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: i think i got something very similiar when i tried to install ubuntu server, but then i fudged around and it worked
[03:54] <Agent_bob> i'm still thinking you need to remove the partition and let the installer "mess it up" for you.   that is what it does...
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> okay
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> i think i got it now
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> okay
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> its installing....
[03:54] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: see, i told you you dont need no help :)
[03:55] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: lol... just remmeber the trout, boy. It's always here
[03:55] <t3hwiz0rd> this weekend I am beginning my first ever Gentoo install :-) <333 gentooo
[03:55] <caf_> meh
[03:55] <caf_> I tried a shitload of distros before kubuntu
[03:56] <caf_> I think this one has stayed the longest
[03:56] <caf_> and has the best community
[03:56] <caf_> forums are very helpful
[03:56] <t3hwiz0rd> 0.o lol jk
[03:56] <caf_> NOOO!
[03:56] <caf_> *hides*
[03:56] <gauchePA> anybody have a problem with    in partitions NTSF?
[03:57] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: ahem :)
[03:57] <Agent_bob> NTSF?
[03:58] <tuna> Hello
[03:58] <tuna> Is anybody there?
[03:58] <Agent_bob> no we're all here
[03:58] <tuna> ok.
[03:58] <Agent_bob> well someone may be there too
[03:59] <tuna> I'm the same kid from earlier
[03:59] <tuna> who didn't use postbin :S
[04:00] <tuna> I still have that problem with adept-- http://supertunaman.com/adept_not working
[04:00] <tuna> http://supertunaman.com/adept_not_working
[04:00] <tuna> sorry, use the second one.
[04:00] <tuna> Could you please help me?
[04:01] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: sure, are you good with command line?
[04:01] <tuna> no, but continue :D
[04:01] <robotgeek> tuna: okay, open up konsole
[04:01] <tuna> konsole's open
[04:01] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg --audit
[04:02] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: i try to live in it as much as possible.
[04:02] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: my entire server is a headless suse machine.
[04:02] <tuna> how do I use postbin?
[04:03] <robotgeek> tuna: paste (http://rafb.net/paste)
[04:03] <caf_> command line is scary to me still
[04:03] <robotgeek> tuna: copy paste stuff, and click submit :)
[04:03] <t3hwiz0rd> caf_: the command line is your friend. A lot of times, it can actually be *less* confusing.
[04:03] <t3hwiz0rd> less stuff to look at and click, less chances of screwing it up
[04:03] <caf_> your'e right actually
[04:04] <caf_> it's easier to type "install blah"
[04:04] <caf_> brings me back to the dos days
[04:04] <caf_> where I had control of my computer ;)
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> we don't talk about dos around here
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> lol
[04:04] <tuna> ok... now what do I do?
[04:04] <caf_> ouch!
[04:04] <nicola> thanks guy, goodbye
[04:04] <caf_> hey, 640 KB was enough for everyone!
[04:04] <robotgeek> tuna: give me the url :)
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> ohhh poop on me
[04:04] <caf_> ;)
[04:04] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/LwjKem33.html
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> I forgot to get my sources.list file off of myo ther install
[04:05] <tuna> does that work?
[04:05] <t3hwiz0rd> *slaps self*
[04:05] <t3hwiz0rd> now I need to fix my sources.list when i get back into kubuntu
[04:05] <robotgeek> tuna: lemme see
[04:05] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo apt-get -f install k3d
[04:06] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program that will put a console in my desktop, kind of like ocnky does with the information it shows
[04:06] <soulrider> like what conky does*
[04:06] <Eeyore-Jr> yes,
[04:06] <robotgeek> conky :)
[04:06] <soulrider> conky can do that ?
[04:06] <robotgeek> sorry, i misunderstood
[04:06] <Eeyore-Jr> kuake ?
[04:07] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/YKi0ph75.html
[04:07] <soulrider> isnt kuake a drop down console ?
[04:07] <RoKFiT> will beryl or compiz auto update?
[04:07] <robotgeek> tuna: the package for k3d seems to have a bug, you will have to remove the package. lemme give you the command
[04:08] <tuna> k
[04:08] <Agent_bob> tuna  that packages configuration script is broken.
[04:08] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq k3d
[04:09] <Agent_bob> the offending file "/usr/bin/pycentral"  should be recoded.
[04:09] <robotgeek> and a bug should definetly be filed :)
[04:10] <Agent_bob> !bug
[04:10] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:10] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/qohuXA52.html
[04:11] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r k3d
[04:11] <SupremeBeing> How do you install a .RPM file?
[04:11] <robotgeek> !alien
[04:11] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:12] <SupremeBeing> :O
[04:12] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rS42BD96.html
[04:12] <SupremeBeing> how do i install ATI drivers then?
[04:12] <caf_> augh, this is why I an advocate of Standards!
[04:13] <robotgeek> oh great. the error is in the removal script
[04:13] <tuna> That sounds bad...
[04:13] <tuna> What do I do?
[04:13] <tuna> Am I screwed?
[04:14] <robotgeek> tuna: nope
[04:14] <caf_> hey guys have you ever noticed your keyboard ever mess up on you?
[04:14] <tuna> No to that sounds bad, what do i do, or am i screwed?
[04:14] <caf_> like, a key will be "stuck"
[04:15] <caf_> and repeat, even though it's not physically stuck?
[04:15] <robotgeek> tuna: no, you are not screwed, let me think
[04:15] <tuna> My mom had that problem, but she uses winblows. geek squad said that it might be the motherboard.
[04:16] <robotgeek> or coffee in keyboards can cause that :)
[04:16] <robotgeek> any kind of fluid, actually
[04:16] <tuna> I spilled gatorade all over my laptop once
[04:16] <tuna> before I began with linux
[04:17] <tuna> its ok, because it was WAY outdated
[04:17] <tuna> So slow...
[04:17] <tuna> but I got a new one.
[04:17] <robotgeek> tuna: hmm, that issue doesn't happen to my k3d installation. but i am on dapper
[04:18] <tuna> yeah, i'm on edgy
[04:19] <winbond> !flash
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <caf_> ok, how do you use SHOCKWA-- wow!
[04:19] <caf_> just as I was typing it, I get help!
[04:19] <caf_> kickass.
[04:20] <tuna> interesting... k3d will open...
[04:20] <tuna> when i type it into the terminal
[04:20] <jshute> anyone know about kcontrol and why systemsettings was used instead?
[04:21] <robotgeek> tuna: okay, sudo vi /var/lib/dpkg/info/k3d.prerm
[04:21] <caf_> heh, this computer wasn't mine
[04:21] <arathald> I'm having trouble installing the ATI firegl drivers -- when i run dmesg it gives me "[17179609.796000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4327 using kernel context 0
[04:21] <arathald> " (PID 4327 is Xorg) -- can anyone help me out here?  I like vi
[04:33] <robotgeek> tuna: if you hit q again, it will stop recording.
[04:33] <arathald> :P
[04:33] <tuna> i did
[04:33] <Zabulus> ok, who can help me get my wireless to work?
[04:33] <ubbbuntu> whats wrong with it?
[04:33] <tuna> so what now?
[04:33] <robotgeek> tuna: then hit :wq to save and quit
[04:33] <tuna> yeah, i did that
[04:33] <Zabulus> new to linux, have wpn111 (wireless usb adapter)
[04:33] <ubbbuntu> my wrong with it?
[04:33] <arathald> so, does anyone know anything about ATI drivers?
[04:33] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg -r k3d
[04:33] <Zabulus> but i cant even get ndiswrapper installed...
[04:33] <robotgeek> !ati > arathald
[04:34] <arathald> !ati
[04:34] <ubbbuntu> my wireless antenna is a coffe can
[04:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <robotgeek> Zabulus: i need alteast make and model :)
[04:35] <ubbbuntu> wpn111?
[04:35] <Zabulus> netgear wpn111
[04:35] <robotgeek> okay. thanks
[04:35] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/4CoUfr39.html
[04:35] <Zabulus> kubuntu 6.06
[04:35] <SupremeBeing> lol I need help with ati drivers also
[04:35] <jshute> Any takers on the information about systemsettings vs. kcontrol?
[04:35] <SupremeBeing> arathald: which card do you have?
[04:36] <ubbbuntu> still no help with my problem :(
[04:36] <robotgeek> Zabulus: it uses madwifi drivers, if you install linux-restricted-modules-common, it should work
[04:36] <Zabulus> and...how do i do that?
[04:37] <robotgeek> Zabulus: install linux-restricted-modules-common using adept
[04:37] <tuna> robotgeek: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4CoUfr39.html
[04:37] <arathald> SupremeBeing: firegl V5200
[04:37] <Zabulus> ok, thank you
[04:37] <robotgeek> tuna: i saw that, can you paste the pre-rm script, maybe i can help. i have a feeling it is different on both our systems
[04:37] <SupremeBeing> arathald: x1300 here... i'm so confused
[04:37] <arathald> robotgeek: yeah, ive been though all of that countless times, thanks for the ref tho
[04:38] <arathald> SupremeBeing: what are you confused about?
[04:38] <robotgeek> arathald: i myself dont use either ati/nvdia, so i dunno
[04:38] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/onYDmm16.html
[04:40] <arathald> SupremeBeing: it uses the same drivers as the Radeon (it's a rebranded radeon mobility)
[04:40] <SupremeBeing> arathald: so it should work out of the box?
[04:40] <caf_> ok dudes, the latest kubuntu doesn't let you type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[04:40] <tuna> *gasp*
[04:40] <tuna> I want wine!
[04:41] <caf_> it says it ain't there
[04:41] <robotgeek> tuna: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3bRMkJ23.html , use that as your pre-rm script
[04:41] <caf_> and also mozplugger, ain't there either, I find this to be a major problem.
[04:41] <arathald> SupremeBeing: no, (k)ubuntu doesnt have the right drivers by default -- the one i need is called fglrx, but no matter what I do, i cant get it to switch from the Mesa driver
[04:41] <robotgeek> caf_: add wine repository, and then install
[04:41] <caf_> Oh ok
[04:41] <arathald> SupremeBeing: my card works, but theres no 3d
[04:41] <caf_> is there a mozplugger repository too?
[04:42] <tuna> Just delete the current one and paste this in?
[04:42] <robotgeek> tuna: yes
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> arathald: I'm not sure, but I think mine is doing that too :/
[04:42] <tuna> sounds easy
[04:42] <robotgeek> very retarded, but nothing else that i can think of right now
[04:42] <arathald> SupremeBeing: run fglrxinfo -- what does it output
[04:42] <robotgeek> tuna: you should definetly file a bug
[04:43] <SupremeBeing> arathald: command not found
[04:43] <arathald> SupremeBeing: sounds like you didnt even install the drivers
[04:43] <tuna> how do i do that?
[04:43] <tobias> my kubuntu is making me sad :(
[04:43] <robotgeek> !bug
[04:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:43] <tobias> it doesnt let me play dvds
[04:44] <tobias> !dvd
[04:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:44] <arathald> !ati > SupremeBeing
[04:44] <tobias> it doesnt even read my dvd
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> !ati
[04:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:44] <tobias> like its not even in my dvdtray :(
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> arathald: thanks much.
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> arathald: don't suppose you can solve my sound card problem? :D
[04:45] <arathald> SupremeBeing: what sound card you have?
[04:46] <SupremeBeing> arathald: a C-Media usb something
[04:46] <Zabulus> that didnt work...
[04:46] <arathald> SupremeBeing: usb? sorry, i dont know much about those kinds of usb devices
[04:47] <tuna> Ok, I hate vi
[04:47] <robotgeek> Zabulus: lsusb output, please paste (http://rafb.net/paste)
[04:47] <robotgeek> tuna: use pico
[04:47] <tuna> pico?
[04:47] <SupremeBeing> arathald: it's ok. i'll get it eventually =) thanks
[04:47] <robotgeek> tuna: it is a much easier editor to use
[04:48] <winbond> what can i do to make firefox see he flash plugin?
[04:48] <tobias> I miss bill gates nightmare now :(
[04:49] <tobias> it could read my dvds
[04:50] <angasule> !dvd
[04:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:50] <robotgeek> angasule: he says his dvd drive is not reading it at all
[04:50] <angasule> ah
[04:50] <tobias> sometimes it works
[04:50] <tobias> I guess its probably a physical problem
[04:50] <tuna> how do I save?
[04:50] <tobias> I need to clean my dvdplayer
[04:50] <tuna> And yes, it was easier to use
[04:50] <tobias> or something
[04:51] <RoKFiT> how can i install video drivers?
[04:51] <robotgeek> tuna: so, all done. i am waiting so that i can go grab food :)
[04:51] <RoKFiT> or is the nv driver okay?
[04:51] <tuna> robotgeek: how do I save?
[04:51] <angasule> !nvidia
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <robotgeek> tuna: ctrl + x , i believe, look to the bottom of your screen
[04:52] <winbond> why doesnt firefox see my flash plugin?
[04:52] <angasule> RoKFiT: look at that link, nv drivers don't do 3D
[04:52] <SupremeBeing> *sigh* why can't it find my packages? sudo apt-get install linux-686 yields E:couldn't find package?!
[04:52] <T3hWiz0rd> !nvidia
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: cause those packages dont exist?
[04:53] <NamShub> Hello
[04:53] <tuna> so now what should I do?
[04:53] <robotgeek> tuna: once saved, try removing again
[04:53] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: it was on the Ubuntu forum
[04:53] <tuna> code?
[04:53] <NamShub> I need help setting up dual screen on my laptop
[04:53] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:53] <zzh> hello
[04:53] <NamShub> right now the screen is cloned on an awful resolution on my LCD... i wonder what to do to fix that
[04:53] <robotgeek> tuna: code for what?
[04:53] <sledge> wooo, 2.6.19 + fglrx \o/
[04:54] <tuna> the removing of k3d
[04:54] <tuna> sudo apt-get -f k3d or something?
[04:54] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo apt-get remove k3d
[04:54] <Zabulus> ok, lsusb results
[04:55] <Zabulus> bus 002 device 003:id 1385:5f00
[04:55] <Zabulus> next one is device 001, id 0000blah blah
[04:55] <winbond> sledge: 2.6.19 , that is version of what?
[04:55] <RoKFiT> how do i bold users in konversation?
[04:56] <Zabulus> next is bus 001 device 00: id 045e:00f0 microsoft corp. (probably my mouse)
[04:56] <sledge> winbond: linux
[04:56] <tuna> argh!
[04:56] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/enaEGt17.html
[04:57] <winbond> sledge:  ohh kernel
[04:57] <sledge> ya
[04:57] <robotgeek> tuna: sorry, just use this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jwtkks65.html
[04:58] <winbond> sledge: what about it and fglrx?
[04:58] <Zabulus> i think ill do this later, when i can use my roommates laptop...
[04:58] <sledge> winbond: doesn't work right out of the box, but it works.
[04:58] <caf_> !shockwave
[04:58] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[04:58] <robotgeek> Zabulus: i could not find such a device listing, possibly it is not a madwifi chip
[04:58] <Zabulus> im not sure
[04:59] <robotgeek> Zabulus: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Netgear bookmark this :)
[04:59] <winbond> sledge:which video card?
[04:59] <Zabulus> i have the drivers downloaded, i have ndiswrapper downloaded, just cant get it installed
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> nvidia drivers keep giving me this error: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> my bad
[05:00] <T3hWiz0rd> and it is installed
[05:00] <sledge> winbond: mobility radeon 9600
[05:00] <robotgeek> T3hWiz0rd: please use pastebin
[05:00] <T3hWiz0rd> uhg
[05:00] <T3hWiz0rd> this is making me mad
[05:00] <winbond> sledge: alright , i have x1950 which fglx doesnt work with , but i dont know which kernel i have installed
[05:01] <Zabulus> i assume the wpn111 will work, the wpn311 is the pci counterpart
[05:01] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: the hardware autodetect worked on 6.06... its all fricked up on 6.10
[05:01] <T3hWiz0rd> its not detecting my monitor anymore... nor is it detecting the drivers are installed, nor is it detecting my monitor
[05:01] <robotgeek> T3hWiz0rd: heh
[05:01] <T3hWiz0rd> i mean my video card*
[05:01] <robotgeek> Zabulus: err, i tht you said 311
[05:01] <Zabulus> i have a wpn111
[05:02] <Zabulus> the wpn311 is the pci version of it
[05:02] <Zabulus> wpn111 is usb
[05:02] <T3hWiz0rd> how sad.
[05:03] <winbond> sledge:are you using x64 or x86
[05:03] <robotgeek> Zabulus: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List says it should work
[05:03] <Zabulus> how do i get ndiswrapper to install?
[05:03] <tuna> robotgeek: don't think it worked...
[05:03] <winbond> any experts on flash in here?
[05:04] <robotgeek> tuna: ughh, did it crash and burn again?
[05:04] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/42gwnJ36.html
[05:04] <tuna> that happened
[05:04] <Zabulus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104539
[05:05] <robotgeek> tuna: done, it atleast removed the package, so now you should be free to install other stuff
[05:05] <tuna> and I have about 11 minutes until I have to go
[05:05] <Zabulus> thats the last thing i tried using to install ndiswrapper
[05:05] <tuna> ok
[05:05] <tuna> i'll try
[05:05] <caf_> I'm stuck.
[05:05] <Zabulus> at the first command i got "Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386"
[05:05] <caf_> I want to get mozplugger or whatever it's called
[05:05] <robotgeek> Zabulus, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:06] <caf_> I'm told to go to source-o-matic
[05:06] <caf_> which isn't updated for edgy
[05:06] <robotgeek> caf_: why do you need mozplugger, again?
[05:06] <caf_> so I can use shockwave
[05:07] <robotgeek> caf_: not sure, sorry
[05:07] <jhutchins> http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
[05:08] <Zabulus> robotgeek: do i need an active internet connection to use the "apt-get install..." commands?
[05:08] <robotgeek> Zabulus: yes
[05:08] <ubbbuntu> every time i type my user/pass kubuntu starts to log in then kicks me back to the login screen,this is the second time it happed before i had to reinstall any help?
[05:08] <Zabulus> thats why it never works...
[05:08] <ubbbuntu> whats the diffrence in bwetween a kubuntu cd iso and a dvd iso?
[05:08] <Zabulus> is there a way to get around the need for the internet connection?
[05:08] <robotgeek> ubbbuntu: look for .xsession-errors in ~/
[05:09] <manli> hi
[05:09] <robotgeek> Zabulus: you can download the package from packages.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <Zabulus> ok robot, ill try that, thank you for your help
[05:09] <ubbbuntu> ill go look.
[05:10] <T3hWiz0rd> !mp3
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <tuna> robotgeek: i think it may work
[05:10] <tuna> YES!
[05:10] <Zabulus> would you happen to know all the packages ill need to get my wireless working?
[05:10] <robotgeek> tuna: cool. just dont install k3d yet :)
[05:10] <tuna> ok, robotgeek, you rock
[05:10] <robotgeek> Zabulus: sadly, no.
[05:11] <tuna> ok
[05:11] <Zabulus> darn, thanks anyway, bye
[05:11] <tuna> robotgeek, you're a h4x0r!
[05:11] <tuna> lol
[05:11] <robotgeek> lol tuna
[05:12] <tuna> Ok, thanks a lot, man
[05:12] <robotgeek> tuna: most likely you are left with a lot of crap in /usr/share/k3d or so
[05:12] <tuna> lol ok
[05:12] <tuna> but i don't care
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: alright, i fixed it :-)
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> cos i am turbogenius
[05:12] <tuna> i have a 40 gig hard drive
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> SHAAZING
[05:12] <tuna> lotta crap won't do much, will it?
[05:13] <winbond> does anyone know the name of the modded version of firefox that can use 32bit plugins under x64 os?/
[05:13] <pops> nope...sorry///
[05:14] <tuna> well thanks, see ya later!
[05:15] <QUEEN> all I need help on fixing something on my computer or i will hurt myself I am begging ppl to be serious and help me not make fuhn like on the ubuntu forum by asking the same question over and over or be rude like ppl were in the ubuntu chat
[05:16] <QUEEN> hello?
[05:16] <pops> relax queeny..whats up?
[05:17] <ubbbuntu> um im running a ubuntu live cd how do i view/mount my normal hard drive?
[05:18] <ubunturos> where does wget automatically store downloaded files?
[05:19] <gtwy> ubunturos: wherever you run the command from
[05:19] <gtwy> to find out where you are type pwd
[05:19] <QUEEN> hello?
[05:19] <ubunturos> gtwy: ok
[05:19] <ubunturos> gtwy: thanks.
[05:20] <ubbbuntu> hate the live cd, slow as hell
[05:20] <QUEEN> im begging ppl on here to help me
[05:20] <pops> What's up Queen...
[05:20] <gtwy> QUEEN: what is your problem
[05:20] <ubbbuntu> ou never stated your problem
[05:20] <QUEEN> because if i dont get this issue fixed i fully intend on hanging myself
[05:20] <manli> yes:queen?
[05:20] <ubbbuntu> /home/ubuntu
[05:20] <QUEEN> i am having an issue as I stated on thre ubuntu chat my cd burner will not read any lank cd i put in it
[05:21] <ubbbuntu> gtwy /home/ubuntu
[05:21] <ubbbuntu> are u running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:21] <QUEEN> ubuntu
[05:21] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: open konqueror and enter that into the bar at the top
[05:21] <gtwy> and your file should be in there
[05:21] <ubbbuntu> um im on a livfe ubuntu cd
[05:22] <gtwy> oh well you're in #kubuntu
[05:22] <gtwy> i think the gnome equivalent is gnautilus
[05:22] <gtwy> although i probably spelled that wrong
[05:22] <QUEEN> i have tried that
[05:22] <ubbbuntu> yes my problem is with kubuntu but i dont have a live cd for kubuntu so i had to use ubuntu
[05:22] <ubbbuntu> brb
[05:22] <QUEEN> mno one is listening im just gonna save veryone the trouble and go ahead and hang myself
[05:22] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: what file did you download with wget
[05:23] <QUEEN> oh and tell the ppl in the ubuntu chat they r part of the reason I have decided to do this they were beyond cruel to me
[05:23] <robotgeek> QUEEN: i think you should get some professinal help
[05:23] <ubbbuntu> huh? i dindint use wget?
[05:23] <QUEEN> i think one of u should help me fix this issue
[05:23] <ubbbuntu> try the forms
[05:23] <robotgeek> QUEEN: if we could, we would
[05:23] <ubbbuntu> forums*
[05:23] <QUEEN> I have ppl ask me the same god damn question over and over as a way to make fun
[05:24] <NamShub> is it possible to use alt+keypad to enter ascii code?
[05:24] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: im getting you confused with ubunturos
[05:24] <NamShub> I have a few dead keys on my laptop and this is annoying as h*ll
[05:24] <ubbbuntu> oh
[05:24] <QUEEN> please sumone help me so I can burn some stuff on CD
[05:24] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: oh, thats easy
[05:24] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: man mount
[05:24] <gtwy> your normal hard drive is probably /dev/hda
[05:25] <gtwy> wait, is it sata or ide?
[05:25] <NamShub> QUEEN: try k3b
[05:25] <NamShub> QUEEN: should be straightforward
[05:25] <ubbbuntu> hda1
[05:25] <QUEEN> i have
[05:25] <pops> right nam
[05:25] <ubbbuntu> ide i think,its a newer laptop
[05:25] <tripper> sos: my kubuntu 6.06 system hangs/freezes whenever i insert a USB flash disk. why does it happen? any fix available?
[05:25] <NamShub> QUEEN: then whats the problem?
[05:26] <gtwy> did you manually set up your drive
[05:26] <QUEEN> either i fi8nd a qway to be able to get my cd burner to see im inserting a blank disk or im gonna han myslef and ppl r asking the same hgod damn thing over and over i think u all r just making fun of me now
[05:26] <gtwy> or did you let it automatically do it
[05:26] <gtwy> here, try this first
[05:26] <gtwy> mount /dev/hda2
[05:26] <gtwy> hda0 and hda1 are usually your swap space and your boot partition
[05:26] <gtwy> so hda2 is most likely your data
[05:26] <pops> laters....all...good luck Queeny....
[05:27] <cpk1> QUEEN: what happens when you put a cd in?
[05:27] <Zabulus> bad news, couldnt install the package
[05:27] <QUEEN> nothing i have said that<PHONE_NUMBER>0 times it does not see that i am inserting a cd
[05:27] <gtwy> QUEEN: what kind of burner is it and have you used the burner before
[05:27] <robotgeek> gtwy: never mind, troll
[05:28] <Zabulus> wow, make robotgeek mad...
[05:28] <Zabulus> i dont think thats a good idea
[05:28] <cpk1> was he really a troll?
[05:28] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: i forgot something
[05:28] <caf_> sounds like what we called a "n00b"
[05:28] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: make a directory, it doesnt matter where, but let's pretend you make it at /old
[05:28] <gtwy> the command would be
[05:28] <gtwy> mount /dev/hda2 /old
[05:29] <gtwy> and then when you are done type umount /dev/hda2
[05:29] <Zabulus> robotgeek: i tried to install the package, but it failed saying something about dependencies or something
[05:29] <robotgeek> Zabulus: yes, which is why it is tough to do it without apt
[05:29] <Zabulus> gahh
[05:29] <Zabulus> dangit
[05:30] <Zabulus> meh, forget, im gonna abandon linux
[05:30] <gtwy> Zabulus: why not just use apt-get ?
[05:30] <Zabulus> but only until i can get my computer hardwired
[05:30] <robotgeek> Zabulus: get to a cable, maybe i can help you :
[05:30] <caf_> wait
[05:30] <tripper> sos: my kubuntu 6.06 system hangs/freezes whenever i insert a USB flash disk. why does it happen? any fix available?
[05:30] <caf_> try sudo apt-get build-dep *insert prog here*
[05:31] <Zabulus> unfortunately, my router is on the side of the house
[05:31] <robotgeek> caf_: he does not have internet, he is trying to get online :)
[05:31] <caf_> Ohhh!
[05:31] <gtwy> ohhh
[05:31] <gtwy> Zabulus: wireless not working but NIC is?
[05:31] <Zabulus> and im upstairs, router is downstairs, which doesnt help...
[05:31] <Zabulus> its a usb connector
[05:32] <ubunturos> ok, I have unpacked the tar of Firefox 2.0 in /opt/firefox directory
[05:32] <Zabulus> which im using right now, trying a dual boot system
[05:32] <ubunturos> but I am not able to execute run-mozilla.sh
[05:32] <ubbbuntu>  it asks me the filesystem type
[05:32] <ubunturos> "cannot execute" is the error!
[05:32] <gtwy> ubunturos: why
[05:32] <ubunturos> the execute bit is set
[05:32] <gtwy> ubunturos: use apt-get!
[05:32] <ubunturos> ah, I am using dapper
[05:33] <gtwy> ubunturos: try different /dev/hda variations
[05:33] <ubunturos> gtwy: and there's no repository for that, I guess
[05:33] <gtwy> until you get one that just works
[05:33] <Zabulus> which is why i keep leaving and coming back...switching between winblows..windows and linux everytime to try another suggestion
[05:33] <gtwy> ubunturos: on there is a repository for firefox trust me.
[05:33] <Zabulus> gets rather annoying
[05:33] <gtwy> oh there *
[05:33] <gtwy> Zabulus: is the wifi card not installed?
[05:33] <gtwy> or you just cant get online with it
[05:33] <ubunturos> gtwy: ah, this download is a waste then?
[05:33] <caf_> anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognise a floppy?
[05:33] <gtwy> ubunturos: correct
[05:33] <Zabulus> its not installed
[05:33] <ubunturos> gtwy: eeks!
[05:34] <gtwy> ubunturos: apt-get install firefox
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ pwd
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> /home/ubuntu
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ man mount
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> Reformatting mount(8), please wait...
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> uiubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hda2/ /
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> mount: only root can do that
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo su
[05:34] <gtwy> i think
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/hda2/ /
[05:34] <Zabulus> so i have no net connection on linux
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/hda2/ /
[05:34] <gtwy> heh... last time i installed something form command line it was using emerge :)
[05:34] <gtwy> no
[05:34] <gtwy> you cant mount it to the root dir
[05:34] <gtwy> you have to make an empty folder
[05:34] <gtwy> called whatever
[05:34] <tripper> ubbuntu: know any reason why my system (on kubuntu 6.06)hangs when inserted with a usb flash disk?
[05:34] <gtwy> and then mont it to /whatever/
[05:35] <Zabulus> anyone know off the top of their heads why its not recognizing one partition of my hd?
[05:35] <gtwy> Zabulus: what format is the partition
[05:35] <Zabulus> ntfs
[05:36] <gtwy> lol thats why
[05:36] <Zabulus> then why can i access my windows partition?
[05:36] <gtwy> is your windows partition FAT32?
[05:36] <Zabulus> no
[05:36] <Zabulus> ntfs still
[05:36] <gtwy> did you try mounting the other ntfs drive
[05:37] <Zabulus> thats what i was thinking, but how do i do that?
[05:37] <gtwy> look in your fstab file
[05:37] <gtwy> for the options they used
[05:37] <gtwy> and then use them to mount the other ntfs drive
[05:37] <gtwy> no, i do not know which drive it is, so you will have to just guess through your /dev/hd_#
[05:38] <Zabulus> so i can pretty much just copy the options from my one partition to the other?
[05:38] <gtwy> yeah
[05:38] <ubunturos> I'll ask for help in firefox channel
[05:38] <gtwy> as long as you know the drive and partition
[05:38] <gtwy> ubunturos: whats wrong
[05:38] <Zabulus> awesome, cause i found that file, just didnt know what to put
[05:38] <ubunturos> gtwy: ackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package
[05:38] <gtwy> do you know what your other ntfs partition is called Zabulus
[05:38] <ubunturos> Package*
[05:38] <Zabulus> well, i have 1 hdd, and all the partitions are different size
[05:39] <Zabulus> not off the top of my head
[05:39] <gtwy> ubunturos: are you on kubuntu or ubuntu
[05:39] <Zabulus> how can i check in windows?
[05:39] <ubunturos> gtwy: kubuntu
[05:39] <LNXempire> I am considering migrating from shitty Ubuntu to Kubuntu, so fart piece of shit Ubuntu only has given me unnecessary headaches.  I have to use k3b to clone CD DVD's.  I wanna do right this minute
[05:41] <ubunturos> gtwy: fetched updates, no new updtes
[05:41] <gtwy> after that runs through type firefox into the filter
[05:41] <DBO> LNXempire, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <gtwy> Zabulus: okay
[05:41] <gtwy> my best advice
[05:41] <gtwy> which isnt the best idea probably but its what i do because i am not sure of a better way
[05:41] <ubunturos> there's a support / library file for language support
[05:41] <ubunturos> that's it
[05:41] <gtwy> is to just mount every partition on the computer that is not listed in the fstab file
[05:42] <gtwy> until i find the right one
[05:42] <DBO> LNXempire, however inflammatory remarks are generally not needed
[05:42] <LNXempire> DBO: but i wanna get rid of craubuntu, how do i get rid completely of Ubuntu?
[05:42] <Zabulus> alright, im sure i can figure out which one it is easily
[05:42] <LNXempire> sorry
[05:42] <gtwy> !repositories | ubunturos
[05:42] <ubotu> ubunturos: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:42] <paul__> is there a way to go to kbuntu from ubuntu....besides making a disc
[05:42] <LNXempire> I apologize
[05:42] <LNXempire> is just that I am frustrated
[05:42] <cpk1> LNXempire: kubuntu is ubuntu, only difference is gnome and kde
[05:42] <Zabulus> all the partitions are different sizes, and the one i need to mount is 200 gigs, versus less than 20 for the rest
[05:43] <Zabulus> so theres a significant difference
[05:43] <LNXempire> simple things become 5 weeks to solve or remain unsolvble
[05:43] <DBO> LNXempire, just sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <DBO> LNXempire, that will get rid of the metapackage and some of its depends
[05:43] <LNXempire> DBO: do I need to reboot afterwards
[05:43] <DBO> no
[05:43] <DBO> just log out
[05:43] <gtwy> there is one think ubuntu / kubuntu NEEDS to do
[05:43] <LNXempire> excelent then let's do it
[05:43] <tubaxx> hy
[05:43] <ubunturos> gtwy: ok
[05:43] <DBO> then log into KDE
[05:43] <gtwy> and that is upgrade smbclient
[05:43] <gtwy> there has been a new one released
[05:43] <gtwy> that works with vista
[05:44] <gtwy> yet ubuntu/kubuntu are still using the BROKEN one
[05:44] <tubaxx> i cant launch adept manager even if i put the pass admin...
[05:44] <DBO> gtwy, not really a big deal since Vista isnt in market yet
[05:44] <cpk1> smb = samba?
[05:44] <gtwy> yes
[05:44] <gtwy> samba == server
[05:44] <gtwy> smbclient == client
[05:44] <Zabulus> tubaxx: did you try using the password you normally log in with?
[05:44] <gtwy> DBO: actually it was released to enterprise yesterday
[05:44] <LNXempire> wiat first i wanna try amarok alone and see how it handles mp3 player
[05:45] <cpk1> well i never had a problem with xp so i would say the problem originates with windows then =P
[05:45] <LNXempire> sudo apt-install amarok??
[05:45] <gtwy> cpk1: fingers were pointed at both sides between MS and samba
[05:45] <tubaxx> yes only one user
[05:45] <gtwy> cpk1: but samba fixed it
[05:45] <tubaxx> one pass
[05:45] <gtwy> tubaxx: open the terminal and type sudo bash
[05:45] <gtwy> try the password there
[05:45] <DBO> gtwy, yeah but that doesnt effect the home market, and there is no server version yet either so it doesnt effect enterprise ;-)
[05:45] <Zabulus> i dont know then, thats all i ususally have to do =P
[05:45] <re-align> I've recently switched to Kubuntu from Ubuntu and need to run a shell script on login (unless someone haas a better solution than the workaround I'm using).
[05:46] <gtwy> DBO: how does it matter? i ahve vista RTM, as well as a lot of other people i know
[05:46] <gtwy> and there is a WORKING FIX
[05:46] <LNXempire> is this correct sudo apt-get amarok ???
[05:46] <gtwy> it's been out for a month
[05:46] <Zabulus> this is great, this is the most helpful irc channel i have ever seen
[05:46] <tubaxx> hes asks the pass, i give him and nothing
[05:46] <gtwy> the fact that it takes over a month for kubuntu reposities to add an upated package is a little ridiculous
[05:47] <caf_> wtf leileilol here
[05:47] <caf_> oh lawd
[05:47] <tubaxx> oups sorry
[05:47] <LNXempire> is this correct sudo apt-get amarok ???
[05:47] <DBO> gtwy, it has to do with the way repos are managed
[05:47] <tubaxx> root@kubuntu
[05:47] <DBO> gtwy, the repos are in feature freeze right now
[05:47] <LNXempire> is not correct
[05:47] <gtwy> LNXempire: apt-get install amarok i think
[05:47] <DBO> LNXempire, amarok is included with kubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <LNXempire> aha yhea
[05:48] <DBO> you dont need to do that seperately
[05:48] <LNXempire> ok
[05:48] <RoKFiT> when i log-in, my desktop goes from blue to black, can i make it just black?
[05:48] <LNXempire> ok thanks
[05:48] <gtwy> ubunturos: hows it going
[05:48] <gtwy> figure it out?
[05:48] <tripper> how to upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10?
[05:48] <Zabulus> tripper: dont
[05:49] <tripper> Zabulus: why?
[05:49] <caf_> heh!
[05:49] <Zabulus> buggy
[05:49] <RoKFiT> does anyone know?
[05:49] <tripper> Zabulus: but i cant use my flash disks and other usb devices
[05:49] <Zabulus> meh, havent tested those in 6.10, sorry
[05:50] <Zabulus> try this
[05:50] <Zabulus> http://dailycupoftech.com/upgrade-ubuntu-606-to-610/
[05:50] <RoKFiT> what is the updater program called
[05:51] <gtwy> oh, something i have been wondering for a while
[05:51] <gtwy> how do i change my MAC address
[05:51] <gtwy> RoKFiT: Adept Manager?
[05:51] <Zabulus> hmmm, i wonder what would happen if i released my ip right now...
[05:52] <caf_> you can do that?
[05:52] <gtwy> Zabulus: ?
[05:52] <Zabulus> lol, just bored
[05:52] <gtwy> Zabulus: then help me figure out how to change the MAC address on my NIC
[05:52] <gtwy> :)
[05:52] <Zabulus> trying
[05:53] <Zabulus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address#ifconfig
[05:53] <Zabulus> see if that helps
[05:53] <gtwy> you can do it with ifconfig... no way! that's even easier than i thought
[05:55] <Zabulus> soo it looks like you have to put hwaddress ether 02:01:02:03:04:08 in the appropriate section of /etc/network/interfaces so that the MAC address is set when the network device is started
[05:55] <gtwy> yeah
[05:55] <caf_> and Cisco still tells its students you can't change MAC addresses for legal reasons.
[05:55] <Zabulus> ...
[05:55] <Zabulus> who cares about legal reasons?
[05:55] <Zabulus> =P
[05:55] <caf_> yep, they do.
[05:56] <caf_> exactly.
[05:56] <gtwy> its not against the law to change your MAC address
[05:56] <Zabulus> if it was they would require companies to disable any commands to change it
[05:58] <Zabulus> anyone know the difference between cedega and cedega cvs?
[05:59] <Jucato> cedega is not free, cedega cvs is free, but not supported by cedega
[05:59] <Zabulus> thats the only difference? the support?
[05:59] <Zabulus> hehe, i wonder which one i will go with
[05:59] <caf_> ya srsly
[06:00] <Jucato> not really. it's not the only difference
[06:00] <Zabulus> do they both support the same games?
[06:00] <Jucato> you have to compile cvs, for one. and you also get a lot of features in cedega. I'm just not sure about the details
[06:01] <Jucato> that's the thing, cedega cvs *might* not support the same games... (afaik)
[06:01] <Zabulus> i can deal with compiling it, as long as i can figure out how
[06:01] <Zabulus> well, i guess ill have to see
[06:01] <Jucato> yep. best way to find out is to Google it up :)
[06:01] <caf_> google is your friend
[06:02] <Zabulus> google is my best friend
[06:02] <Jucato> Google is my brother :P
[06:02] <Zabulus> when gmail was still invitation i had about 20 different gmail accounts
[06:02] <Zabulus> made for a lot of invites
[06:02] <Jucato> Gmail is still by invitation :)
[06:03] <Zabulus> ...
[06:03] <Zabulus> wow, i thought it was done with that
[06:03] <Jucato> nope. it's still "Beta" hehehe
[06:03] <caf_> I think it'll always be beta ;)
[06:04] <Jucato> maybe... but who knows :)
[06:04] <Zabulus> lol, well, first account i checked has 48 invites...
[06:04] <Zabulus> soo, figure i might have around 500 invites
[06:04] <Jucato> nah. not that much
[06:05] <Zabulus> well, with about 20 accounts
[06:05] <Jucato> O.o
[06:05] <Zabulus> yeah, i went nuts, dont ask
[06:05] <Jucato> :P
[06:06] <Zabulus> hmm, need a new game...whats a good game thats free?
[06:06] <caf_> hmm
[06:09] <Zabulus> so far i have mu, ro, steam w/ hl cs sven cz etc, doom 3, fear, sims2, sims complete, c&c decade
[06:09] <Jucato> RO and MU, if they use GameGuard, probably won't run. at least it doesn't in Wine
[06:09] <Zabulus> meh, i play private servers
[06:10] <Jucato> :P
[06:10] <LNXempire> hey what kinda port do I need to use with Amarok is reporting that 59273 or something like that isn't workig
[06:12] <Zabulus_> at some point i will have to figure out why i keep getting bsod
[06:12] <Zabulus_> and...why is it showing me connected twice???
[06:13] <Jucato> it's your ghost
[06:13] <Zabulus_> apparently
[06:13] <Zabulus_> damn bum has my name
[06:13] <LNXempire> is aMule a different network than Frostwire?
[06:13] <Zabulus_> should the ghost be the one with the tweaked name?
[06:14] <caf_> DIE
[06:14] <gtwy> Zabulus_: what irc client are you on
[06:14] <Jucato> Zabulus_: is your nick registered?
[06:14] <Zabulus_> icechat, pos i just downloaded
[06:14] <Zabulus_> and no, its not registered
[06:15] <Zabulus_> havent been on irc for a long time, had to get a new client
[06:15] <Jucato> ah. then you'll just have to wait for the ghost to disappear
[06:15] <Zabulus_> and this junk was the first i found...
[06:15] <Jucato> on Windows, I presume?
[06:15] <Zabulus_> unfortunately
[06:15] <gtwy> Zabulus_: check out irssi
[06:16] <Zabulus_> free?
[06:16] <gtwy> yes
[06:16] <gtwy> linux based
[06:16] <Zabulus_> ...
[06:16] <Zabulus_> i need one for windows...
[06:16] <gtwy> oh
[06:16] <gtwy> thats easy
[06:16] <Zabulus_> no internet on linux still
[06:16] <gtwy> you have a remote linux machine online though right?
[06:16] <Zabulus_> no, dual boot system
[06:16] <gtwy> ouch
[06:16] <Zabulus_> yep
[06:17] <gtwy> IRCing from home network
[06:17] <Zabulus_> im the only one in the house with linux
[06:18] <gtwy> Zabulus_: do you have a job
[06:18] <Zabulus_> out of 5 computers
[06:18] <Zabulus_> yep
[06:18] <gtwy> you should consider geting a dedicated server
[06:18] <gtwy> it is $30/mo
[06:18] <Zabulus_> too much, lol
[06:18] <gtwy> its on a fat pipe
[06:18] <gtwy> i get 2mbytes/sec down 1mbyte/sec up
[06:18] <Zabulus_> if you say oc 100+ im in
[06:19] <gtwy> Zabulus_: i think it is more a restriction of the hard drive
[06:19] <Zabulus_> lol, its a joke
[06:19] <gtwy> i did say bytes not bits
[06:19] <RoKFiT> what is the add/remove software application called
[06:20] <gtwy> RoKFiT: adept manager
[06:20] <Zabulus_> can i have oc-3072?
[06:20] <RoKFiT> and what is the updater?
[06:20] <gtwy> go into the adept manager and click "fetch updates"
[06:21] <Zabulus_> if anyone will get my oc-3072 for a year i will give them my....ummm...something
[06:21] <Zabulus_> me*
[06:21] <gtwy> how about enough money to pay for the connection as well as one for me
[06:21] <gtwy> if that is the case i will get you one
[06:21] <RoKFiT> where is adept located?
[06:21] <Jucato> no
[06:22] <Zabulus_> too expensive...lol
[06:22] <RoKFiT> what is the command to start adept
[06:22] <Jucato> Updater = adept_updater
[06:22] <Zabulus_> but imagine 160 Gbit/s
[06:22] <Jucato> Add/Remove = adept_installer
[06:22] <gtwy> Jucato: does it really matter you can do updates from the installer
[06:22] <Jucato> Adept Manager (big guy) = adept (Dapper) or adept_manager
[06:22] <RoKFiT> thank you Jucato
[06:22] <Jucato> gtwy: I'm just enumerating them
[06:22] <gtwy> er, from the manager
[06:23] <RoKFiT> now how do i login to root?
[06:23] <Zabulus_> someone kick Zabulus!!!
[06:23] <Jucato> Adept Manager can do everything the others can. it is also the only one where you can Manage Repositories
[06:23] <Zabulus_> not Zabulus_, Zabulus
[06:23] <gtwy> Zabulus_: its moer than that, he will need killed
[06:23] <gtwy> Zabulus_: wait for him to ping timeout
[06:23] <Jucato> RoKFiT: when you launch Adept from the menu, you will be prompted for the password
[06:23] <Zabulus_> maybe if i dc and come back, lets try
[06:23] <gtwy> Zabulus_: nope
[06:24] <gtwy> oh well
[06:24] <RoKFiT> adept updater is not add/remove software?
[06:24] <Jucato> no
[06:24] <RoKFiT> what is add remove software?
[06:24] <gtwy> the "add/remove" software button is lame
[06:24] <Jucato> Add/Remove Programs = adept_installer
[06:24] <Jucato> RoKFiT: but that is a very simplified version of Adept Manager
[06:25] <RoKFiT> and adept_manager?
[06:26] <RoKFiT> is that one?
[06:26] <Jucato> RoKFiT: is the full version. the one without the fancy icons/interface
[06:26] <Jucato> adept_installer is the "Add/Remove Programs" that you see in the K Menu
[06:26] <Jucato> Adept Manager is under K Menu -> System
[06:26] <RoKFiT> adept manager complains of root priveledges
[06:26] <NamShub> Ok I managed to get my dual screen setup working
[06:27] <Jucato> RoKFiT: how and from where are you launching it?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. writing a little 'report' in abiword.. and wondering.. What the heck does these green wiggly lines mean under parts of my report. :)
[06:27] <gtwy> RoKFiT: when prompted for your password put in your login password
[06:27] <RoKFiT> i'm not prompted
[06:27] <gtwy> RoKFiT: if attempting to run it from the terminal type sudo before it, example
[06:27] <RoKFiT> i need the root login
[06:27] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: Abiword doesn't have ODF support, btw
[06:27] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: those are in Word Too
[06:27] <NamShub> however on my screen 2, which is left, the virtual size is higher than my display area (1280x1024, my LCD size) and the cursur show up as a 64x64 square
[06:27] <Jucato> RoKFiT: where are you launching it from?
[06:27] <gtwy> sudo adept_installer
[06:27] <Jucato> gtwy: no. use kdesu for graphical apps
[06:27] <Jucato> !kdesu
[06:27] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  considering i do like 4 letters a year.. not an issue. :)
[06:28] <intelikey> odd   wonder why  "libauthen-captcha-perl"  and  "goldedplus"  come up if you search for adept in apt ?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> just trying to figure out what those green wavews are telling me
[06:28] <RoKFiT> how do i disable bouncy icon?
[06:28] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: spelling check probably?
[06:28] <gtwy> Jucato: oh
[06:28] <gtwy> Jucato: im new to linux gui
[06:28] <Jucato> RoKFiT: hm... one problem at a time... which one do you want to tackle first?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  those are red. :)
[06:28] <RoKFiT> root password
[06:28] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: grammar?
[06:28] <intelikey> RoKFiT kcontrol
[06:28] <RoKFiT> logging into root
[06:29] <intelikey> RoKFiT it's all in kcontrol
[06:29] <Jucato> RoKFiT: ok answer this. how are you trying to launch Adept Manager
[06:29] <RoKFiT> a shortcut i made in menu
[06:29] <RoKFiT> kmenu
[06:29] <RoKFiT> command adept_installer
[06:29] <RoKFiT> and command sudo adept_installer
[06:29] <Zabulus> finally made it back in
[06:29] <Jucato> RoKFiT: did you delete the other one? there's already one in the K Menu by default
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  heh.. thats my next guess.. but ya think there would be a little more info on it.. heh.. abiword's spell checking interface needs work big time also. :() Oh well.. not a big deal
[06:30] <Zabulus> YAY, bastard is gone
[06:30] <BluDog_Anchorite> is there a repairMBR option available from the dapper cd  ?
[06:30] <intelikey> not sudo when it's a gui thingy   use kdesu whatever
[06:30] <RoKFiT> Jucato: yes
[06:30] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: interface? it's GNOME. should you wonder? :)
[06:30] <Jucato> RoKFiT: use "kdesu" instead of sudo
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  using it under windows at the moment. :)
[06:31] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: eww.... heheh. Don't like OO.o?
[06:31] <RoKFiT> Jucato: and now for root login?
[06:31] <RoKFiT> wait wait
[06:31] <RoKFiT> no first i have another question
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  dident want to download a 200+mb office suite to write a 3 page letter....
[06:31] <RoKFiT> when i login my screen goes from blue to black
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> over wireless..
[06:31] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: it's during those kinds of circumstances that I wish KOffice was available in Windows :)
[06:31] <RoKFiT> why?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:32] <RoKFiT> i just want it black
[06:32] <intelikey> unix_infidel don't look like it.
[06:32] <Jucato> unix_infidel: they probably don't need it
[06:32] <unix_infidel> intelikey: that was a joke.
[06:32] <Jucato> :P
[06:32] <RoKFiT> Jucato: read what i wrote
[06:32] <Jucato> RoKFiT: I'm not sure why (about the screen)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ive not tried koffice yet.  I just tend to use abiword for quick and dirty letters. JUst noticd today how badly done the spellchecker feature of it is done. :(
[06:33] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: doesn't it use Aspell?
[06:33] <Zabulus> is the syntax to register /msg nickserv register (pw) (email)?
[06:33] <RoKFiT> odd
[06:33] <Jucato> RoKFiT: as for root login, we don't do root logins in Kubuntu. kdesu or sudo is enough to launch apps with root privileges. if you changed "sudo adept_installer" to "kdesu adept_installer" that will ask for the passsword when you launch it
[06:34] <intelikey> Zabulus /msg nickserv help register
[06:34] <RoKFiT> what do you mean "we just don't do"
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> no idea what its using under windows  the 'interfae' to its spell checking is brain dead.. typos like 'dosent' and so sorth dont even have suggestions.. there should be some sort of 'browser' incase you mess up the first letter of the word..
[06:34] <RoKFiT> is it possible?
[06:34] <dragon> hello
[06:34] <intelikey> yes
[06:34] <Jucato> RoKFiT: wait. what do you mean by "root login"? login into the root user from the login screen?
[06:34] <RoKFiT> yes
[06:34] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: so use Word
[06:34] <intelikey> RoKFiT i told you it was possable hours ago
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Hmm the green wiggly lines seem to be.. err.. random.  :) i retype a line and it is only under part of it.. Heh. may be some sort of bug.
[06:35] <Zabulus> ...
[06:35] <unix_infidel> I use word in BOTH linux and windows
[06:35] <RoKFiT> intelikey: blank didn't work!
[06:35] <Jucato> RoKFiT: yes it is possible, but not recommended
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> troff ! :)
[06:35] <RoKFiT> neither did ubuntu
[06:35] <intelikey> RoKFiT blank what ?
[06:35] <Zabulus> the syntax it shows just uses REGISTER (pw), but, wouldnt everyone be able to see it?
[06:35] <RoKFiT> blank pw
[06:35] <RoKFiT> nothing as the password
[06:35] <RoKFiT> blank password
[06:36] <unix_infidel> Haha, That would be bloody awesome if we had a Linux vs. Windows commercial with a Pimp in  Red Hat.  Claiming he's run windows for years w/ wine :P
[06:36] <Jucato> omg! did you just give "root" a blank password?
[06:36] <RoKFiT> i didn't define any
[06:36] <unix_infidel> erm MS office.
[06:36] <RoKFiT> how would i have
[06:36] <RoKFiT> it never asked during install
[06:36] <gtwy> Jucato: oh wow that does work better it got rid of an error message i was getting
[06:36] <intelikey> RoKFiT there is not a root password    get that through your thick skull.    if you want a root password you have to set one.     and even then you can't login via kdm as root unless you configure kdm to allow it.
[06:36] <Jucato> !sudo | RoKFiT
[06:36] <ubotu> RoKFiT: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:37] <gtwy> Jucato: but question, i have it run the command "sudo kismet" in the terminal
[06:37] <Jucato> that page has all the information
[06:37] <RoKFiT> okay now i understand
[06:37] <gtwy> and it works okay, is that alright?
[06:37] <Zabulus> umm, i might be kind of randomly asking redundant questions, but, did you try the pw you log in with?
[06:37] <RoKFiT> do you guys run as root?
[06:37] <Jucato> gtwy: is kismet a graphical app?
[06:37] <dragon> erm can ne1 help me with kopete ????? ...... it dosint want to connect nemore it just sits there pretending its connecting
[06:37] <intelikey> RoKFiT i do some.   most of these in here don't
[06:37] <Jucato> RoKFiT: no
[06:37] <Jucato> RoKFiT: I use sudo or kdesu. my root account remains disabled
[06:37] <RoKFiT> intelikey: how do you set it up in kdm
[06:37] <gtwy> Jucato: alright alright i get it, but i am only asking because i launch it from the menu
[06:38] <intelikey> but my system is very far from default.
[06:38] <RoKFiT> intelikey: tell me how you enable it in kdm
[06:38] <Jucato> and intelikey is very far from being your average, normal user
[06:38] <Zabulus> okay, so once i register my pw on here, can i change it?
[06:38] <Jucato> robotgeek: you're not normal either :P
[06:38] <robotgeek> Zabulus: yes
[06:39] <Zabulus> good
[06:39] <Zabulus> REGISTER 12345
[06:39] <Zabulus> thought so
[06:39] <gtwy> intelikey: what do you do on your system
[06:39] <robotgeek> Jucato: no, really. i am on dapper
[06:39] <Jucato> gtwy: afaik, it's ok. as long as it's not a graphical app
[06:39] <Jucato> robotgeek: bah :P
[06:39] <RoKFiT> intelikey: are you there?
[06:40] <gtwy> Jucato: before i had made a new terminal link that opened "sudo bash" /in the terminal/, now i changed it to kdesu konsole and it removed an error message i used to get upon closing it
[06:40] <intelikey> gtwy i answer stupid questions in irc that no one else wants.... :)
[06:40] <gtwy> :)
[06:40] <RoKFiT> 4734 available packages, thats awesome
[06:40] <dragon> erm can ne1 help me with kopete ????? ...... it dosint want to connect nemore it just sits there pretending its connecting
[06:40] <LNXempire> is this correct sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[06:40] <Jucato> intelikey also answers stupid questions from stuipd people that no one wants to answer :P
[06:40] <LNXempire> can't find it
[06:41] <Jucato> LNXempire: no it is not.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> I specilize in stupid answers to stupid questions
[06:41] <RoKFiT> and i am that stupid person?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu Faq :)
[06:41] <Jucato> RoKFiT: no
[06:41] <intelikey> RoKFiT look in the menu for a way to configure the login process.   i don't think i should tell you how.  they might ban me from the channel.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <Jucato> LNXempire: what are you trying to do?
[06:41] <Jucato> intelikey: no you won't be. you're not in #ubuntu :P
[06:41] <LNXempire> get rid of ubuntu and install Kubuntu
[06:41] <intelikey> Jucato lol  true that
[06:41] <RoKFiT> lol intelikey
[06:42] <Jucato> intelikey: just take note that if teach him that and he messes his system up, it will be on your hands :P
[06:42] <intelikey> it has happened there before.
[06:42] <RoKFiT> tell me in pm
[06:42] <RoKFiT> Jucato: no it won't
[06:42] <Chris7mas> anybody here has an apache2 web server installed?
[06:42] <RoKFiT> i'll just reinstall again
[06:42] <Zabulus> isnt there an easier way to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[06:42] <Chris7mas> i noticed a strange thing... if i go on this website: http://ninharp.dynodns.net it will show me the contents of my web server
[06:42] <Chris7mas> and i don't have any domain associated with my ip address so why is that happening?
[06:42] <gtwy> RoKFiT: yes but on gentoo not ubuntu
[06:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: just a suggestion. unless you really, absolutely, and fully know what you are doing, I wouldn't recommend enabling the root account or graphical login as root
[06:42] <robotgeek> Zabulus: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:43] <LNXempire> thanks
[06:43] <gtwy> Chris7mas: your ISP is assigning one
[06:43] <intelikey> Jucato it will be anyway.... if i answer any question, i'm responsable for what ever breaks for the next six months... havent you noticed that yet
[06:43] <RoKFiT> Jucato: you have told me this.  i would still like to do it.
[06:43] <Chris7mas> well...
[06:43] <Jucato> RoKFiT: that RootSudo page also has instructions on how to do what you want
[06:43] <Chris7mas> but that address (ninharp.dynodns.net), i found it on a xchat scripts page
[06:43] <intelikey> RoKFiT to set a root passwd   do this.   sudo passwd root
[06:44] <Chris7mas> so how comes that guy (which i never heard of before) put there as the homepage for his scripts this domain?
[06:44] <gtwy> Chris7mas: pm me with your IP and i will tell you if there is a domain associated with it
[06:44] <RoKFiT> sweet
[06:44] <Chris7mas> gtwy /whois chris7mas
[06:44] <RoKFiT> tvtime is not in repo?
[06:45] <gtwy> doh! undernet hides that for me when i log in
[06:45] <gtwy> cant believe freenode doesnt
[06:45] <RoKFiT> any tv applications
[06:45] <LNXempire> gtwy: hides waht?
[06:46] <gtwy> LNXempire: your ip
[06:46] <ninHer> gtwy: Chris7mas ip's is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:46] <gtwy> way past this
[06:46] <ninHer> everybody can see it here
[06:46] <LNXempire> well can't you manually hide it in freenode?
[06:46] <RoKFiT> can kmousetool change dpi?
[06:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> does anyone here know the best method for repairing a MBR after having to do a win re-install on a dual boot system ?
[06:47] <gtwy> ninHer: asked because i am used to undernet hiding everyones addresses but im not on undernet anymore
[06:47] <Jucato> !grub | BluDog_Anchorite
[06:47] <ubotu> BluDog_Anchorite: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:47] <ninHer> ok gtwy
[06:47] <intelikey> RoKFiT to enable kdm root login  edit  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc   change line 246:  AllowRootLogin=false      enough said.
[06:48] <RoKFiT> good deal
[06:48] <intelikey> RoKFiT also if there is any other files like kdmrc.custom  or the like   you need to check them also.  there may be over-rides
[06:49] <RoKFiT> okay
[06:49] <gtwy> okay
[06:49] <RoKFiT> what about the autologin file?
[06:49] <intelikey> RoKFiT so you get that setup and come back here as root i'll own your box and publish any sensitive info that i find.
[06:49] <Zabulus> chris7mas, you still there?
[06:49] <gtwy> ninharp.dynodns.net is loop back
[06:49] <intelikey> RoKFiT got that.
[06:49] <gtwy> so anyone who tries to go there gets themselves
[06:49] <RoKFiT> i got that
[06:49] <gtwy> oh
[06:49] <gtwy> then why is he still asking me
[06:49] <Jucato> RoKFiT: oh, don't login to IRC as root
[06:50] <Jucato> duh... intelikey beat me to it
[06:50] <Chris7mas> omg
[06:50] <Chris7mas> lol :)
[06:50] <Chris7mas> so <IP_ADDRESS> is called loop back?
[06:50] <gtwy> Chris7mas: <IP_ADDRESS> is loop back
[06:50] <Chris7mas> so its ip address is actually <IP_ADDRESS> or what?
[06:50] <intelikey> RoKFiT as to the auto login it's just another line in the same file.   535:#AutoLoginEnable=true  545:#AutoLoginUser=root
[06:51] <Zabulus> i dont think <IP_ADDRESS> is anything...
[06:51] <gtwy> PING ninharp.dynodns.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:51] <Jucato> intelikey: thou hast found a willing soul to be thy student :)
[06:51] <RoKFiT> i can't even get to the file
[06:51] <RoKFiT> brb
[06:51] <Jucato> in the dark arts of root :)
[06:51] <intelikey> Jucato lol
[06:51] <Chris7mas> nice :)
[06:52] <Zabulus> i ping the ninhapr.dynodns.net and get <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:52] <intelikey> not yet.   my box is mostly gui-less but console root autologin  :)
[06:52] <Jucato> intelikey: <RoKFiT> i can't even get to the file ??
[06:52] <gtwy> Zabulus: its not important
[06:52] <intelikey> Jucato should i tell him ?
[06:53] <Zabulus> yeah, i know
[06:53] <Jucato> intelikey: your choice... :)
[06:53] <Jucato> can't leave him halfway there, though
[06:53] <intelikey> i'll let the bot do the rest.
[06:54] <Jucato> intelikey: thy student hath returneth
[06:54] <intelikey> !hidden | RoKFiT
[06:54] <ubotu> RoKFiT: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:54] <RoKFiT> back
[06:55] <RoKFiT> yeah uhm, i can't even navigate to /etc/kde3/kdm/.....
[06:55] <RoKFiT> nor can I login as root
[06:55] <RoKFiT> root login not allowed
[06:56] <intelikey> RoKFiT system files are generally not accessable or at least not changable for anyone but root.
[06:56] <intelikey> !hidden > RoKFiT
[06:56] <gtwy> RoKFiT: while you are trying to figure out how to log in as root why dont you open SSH for us
[06:56] <Jucato> gtwy: heh
[06:56] <gtwy> RoKFiT: why could you possibly want to log in as root
[06:56] <intelikey> RoKFiT and that ends another day of broadcasting....  </walks away>
[06:57] <gtwy> RoKFiT: tired of typing in your password? there is a much easier way
[06:57] <RoKFiT> why?  because i edit files in the root directory
[06:57] <gtwy> RoKFiT: try this
[06:57] <gtwy> open the terminal
[06:57] <intelikey> gtwy yes i could have told him to set sudoers == "ALL ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"   :)
[06:57] <LNXempire> a lage number of users that change to linux complain about setting up a password
[06:58] <gtwy> RoKFiT: type: sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[06:58] <gtwy> go down to where it says %admin
[06:58] <gtwy> and change the line to: %admin  ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL
[06:59] <gtwy> and then right click on your konqueror button and configure it. go to the application tab and add "kdesu" before command
[07:01] <RoKFiT> can i just turn this user account into admin priviledges
[07:01] <gtwy> RoKFiT: go use windows.
[07:01] <gtwy> i mdone
[07:01] <Jucato> RoKFiT: it already is, in some way
[07:01] <RoKFiT> because with this method will my accounts be passwordless?
[07:02] <Jucato> RoKFiT: when an app asks for the administrator's password, it means *your* password
[07:02] <caf_> i'm so glad ATI RAGE is usable in ubuntu
[07:03] <caf_> it doesn't crash!
[07:04] <caf_> it's not like I can upgrade my card so yeah
[07:04] <RoKFiT> su returned with error
[07:04] <intelikey> RoKFiT if all you want is to break your pinguin, i can tell you a simple way.    at the login screen do this.  select console login     then login as root with the password you set for root   and  type   startx
[07:04] <caf_> I'm always told "LOL GET A JOB" when I send bug reports and they see I use ATI RAGE
[07:05] <caf_> >:(
[07:05] <RoKFiT> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[07:05] <RoKFiT> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 19
[07:06] <RoKFiT> how can i change the file back
[07:06] <intelikey> do what i just said ^^ and BaDaBing you are super(GUI)user
[07:06] <Zabulus_> gahhh, now i need help in windows...
[07:07] <Zabulus_> keep getting bsod with 0x00000007 code
[07:07] <Zabulus_> and i lost my name AGAIN
[07:07] <Jucato> Zabulus_: try ##windows ?
[07:07] <Jucato> Zabulus_: if Zabulus is registered, you can kill it with /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <password>
[07:07] <intelikey> and yes there really is a windows channel here
[07:07] <RoKFiT> i will try, brb
[07:08] <intelikey> you've been warned about irc'ing as root.
[07:08] <Jucato> :p
[07:08] <purpleposeidon> How can I install spanish dictionary for oo?
[07:08] <purpleposeidon> ah, nvm I found it.
[07:09] <Zabulus_> YAY, i like that
[07:09] <Zabulus_> i killed the damn ghost
[07:09] <caf_> rofl I wonder if Quake 3 runs on this computer
[07:09] <caf_> I hear there's a linux port now
[07:10] <Zabulus_> figures, go to the windows room, bunch of people connected
[07:10] <Zabulus_> and they ARE ALL AFK!!!!
[07:10] <caf_> so maybe, just maybe, but I doubt it.
[07:10] <caf_> rofl all afk? that sucks.
[07:10] <Zabulus_> severely
[07:11] <RoKFiT> yeah, back, and i say forget that i dea
[07:11] <RoKFiT> idea*
[07:11] <RoKFiT> but thats lame i can't access the entire file system
[07:12] <RoKFiT> but i now have 2 new problems
[07:13] <RoKFiT> the login screen, or I assume it is X, is running my display at a Hz that is out of range.
[07:13] <gtwy> RoKFiT: have you ever played a rpg before.. maybe final fantasy
[07:14] <intelikey> RoKFiT yeah and problem number two, you edited sudoers without either knowing what you were doing or using visudo which should have let you cancel the changes when it saw that they wouldn't work.
[07:14] <RoKFiT> well how can i fix the display problem?  will the nvidia drivers fix this?
[07:15] <gtwy> RoKFiT: you ignoring my question?
[07:15] <RoKFiT> i played it on play station
[07:15] <RoKFiT> i don't like video games that much
[07:16] <gtwy> RoKFiT: what happened if you, when you were like a level 2 or 3 noob, went to a place they werent suppose to be... a part of the game they are suppose to go to later?
[07:17] <RoKFiT> you tell me what would happen
[07:17] <gtwy> they get owned
[07:17] <intelikey> let's see.   sudoers is borked and gui login maybe malcomfigured... so it looks from here like, you will probably reload the system to streighten it out.
[07:17] <RoKFiT> probably
[07:17] <RoKFiT> there isn't any other way to edit the file
[07:18] <gtwy> whats the url to the pastebin
[07:18] <gtwy> you can paste your sudoers file
[07:18] <RoKFiT> how can i even get to it?
[07:18] <gtwy> you have access to the terminal right
[07:18] <intelikey> RoKFiT yeah there are ways.  but you are too green to go there.
[07:19] <RoKFiT> oh shoot
[07:19] <RoKFiT> i just showed hidden files
[07:19] <RoKFiT> i forgot they were hidden
[07:19] <RoKFiT> now i can see the filesystem
[07:19] <intelikey> wont matter you can't edit them.
[07:20] <gtwy> All this because of some periods?
[07:20] <gtwy> ls -al
[07:20] <intelikey> gtwy no
[07:20] <RoKFiT> can i change permissions on the file
[07:20] <intelikey> !hidden | gtwy
[07:20] <ubotu> gtwy: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[07:20] <intelikey> RoKFiT no
[07:20] <RoKFiT> why not
[07:20] <intelikey> not without sudo
[07:20] <RoKFiT> dude
[07:20] <intelikey> didn't you mess up your sudoers file ?
[07:20] <RoKFiT> yeah
[07:21] <gtwy> RoKFiT: try sudo bash
[07:21] <gtwy> and see if it errors
[07:21] <RoKFiT> yeah
[07:21] <RoKFiT> who told me to edit it wrong, like they knew what they were doing
[07:21] <gtwy> i told you something that works fine
[07:21] <gtwy> i copied and pasted from my own sudo file
[07:21] <gtwy> not my fault you cant type
[07:22] <RoKFiT> right
[07:22] <gtwy> put the live cd in and fix it
[07:22] <RoKFiT> so any other ways to fix this
[07:22] <RoKFiT> how
[07:22] <intelikey> gtwy it's all your fault...
[07:22] <RoKFiT> how
[07:22] <intelikey> RoKFiT drop to a console and login as root
[07:22] <RoKFiT> how
[07:23] <RoKFiT> konsole is open
[07:23] <RoKFiT> if i logout i can't login as root
[07:23] <RoKFiT> even at terminal
[07:23] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1     use  ctrl+alt+f7  to get back here.
[07:23] <RoKFiT> and do what when i get there
[07:23] <intelikey> visudo
[07:23] <RoKFiT> type that in
[07:23] <intelikey> undo what ever you did.
[07:23] <gtwy> RoKFiT: do us all a favor and just rm -rf /
[07:24] <intelikey> yes type that in  and then fix your mess
[07:24] <intelikey> gtwy be nice.
[07:24] <gtwy> sorry sorry
[07:25] <Zabulus> hmm, now i need to get that error again...
[07:25] <intelikey> RoKFiT rm means remove and / means the base of the whole system.   don't rm -r /   as root unless you are ready to reload and don't have a windows partition mounted or anything like that
[07:26] <mae> anyone get skype going on 64 bit? i don't have libXcursor 64 bit :(
[07:26] <intelikey> gtwy i agree it'd be easier on us   but not on him.
[07:26] <mae> or 32 bit i thin rather
[07:26] <RoKFiT> lol i fixed it
[07:26] <RoKFiT> :D
[07:26] <RoKFiT> too happy!~!~
[07:26] <intelikey> RoKFiT congrats.
[07:26] <gtwy> good
[07:27] <RoKFiT> okay i'll shutup guys.
[07:27] <intelikey> there may be hope for you yet.
[07:27] <RoKFiT> just do we have a tv application?  so i can shutup and watch tv.  tv-to-shut me up?
[07:27] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: tvtime works fine
[07:27] <intelikey> yes more than one in fact
[07:27] <RoKFiT> how can I install it
[07:28] <RoKFiT> apt-get tvtime?
[07:28] <robotgeek> !info tvtime
[07:28] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[07:28] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: enable universe, and install it
[07:28] <intelikey> didn't he enable universe eariler ???
[07:28] <RoKFiT> where is universe?
[07:28] <intelikey> i guess not.
[07:28] <mortici> whats a good plugin for firefox to watch movies in it. like mpg's, mov's, or avi's?
[07:29] <intelikey> RoKFiT adept
[07:29] <RoKFiT> what part
[07:29] <dragon> erm can ne1 help me with kopete ????? ...... it dosint want to connect nemore it just sits there pretending its connecting
[07:29] <RoKFiT> I'm in the manager
[07:29] <mortici> dragon, stop all connections
[07:29] <mortici> and try again
[07:29] <dragon> i did
[07:29] <mortici> hmmm
[07:29] <intelikey> Jucato could walk you right through it.
[07:30] <RoKFiT> so i go to view
[07:30] <RoKFiT> manage repositories
[07:30] <dragon> i even tryed comileing the newest ver from source and that didint work wither
[07:30] <RoKFiT> and...?
[07:30] <mortici> RoKFiT, yes
[07:30] <RoKFiT> and how do i enable it?
[07:30] <mortici> then there are sources there
[07:30] <mortici> right click and enagle anythign with universe in it
[07:31] <RoKFiT> okay thank you
[07:31] <mortici> dragon, any network config changes?
[07:31] <dragon> changed router (because had to change isp)
[07:32] <dragon> stoped working day i canged router ,... and i cannot change the router back :-\
[07:32] <mortici> hmm
[07:32] <mortici> possibly a port forwarding issue
[07:32] <dragon> mmk i know roughly how to set up port forwarding
[07:32] <mortici> find out which ports each service uses
[07:33] <RoKFiT> i enabled universe and clicked apply and nothing appears in the search
[07:33] <mortici> and enable those ports
[07:33] <mortici> RoKFiT, do Fetch updates first
[07:33] <mortici> then search
[07:33] <RoKFiT> i did
[07:33] <dragon> ok thx
[07:33] <mortici> any time you add a repo, you have to fetch updates
[07:34] <intelikey> and anytime you remove one, you should
[07:34] <RoKFiT> right, but i still can't find the app
[07:34] <mortici> dragon, then again it really should matter on which router you use, but this one in particular might be more picky
[07:34] <intelikey> RoKFiT did you enable all the lines with universe ?
[07:34] <dragon> :-\
[07:35] <mortici> should i use firefox-gxine plugin to watch avi's from within firefox, or kaffiene plugin?
[07:35] <gtwy> im sure this has been sent already but i dont see it so
[07:35] <gtwy> !repositories | RoKFiT
[07:35] <ubotu> RoKFiT: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:35] <chx> hi. when going into Kopete // Settings // some account // modify I see something very strange beside the Remember password -- it's not an X neither it's empty, it's a square with lines
[07:35] <chx> and no matter what I do Kopete does not log in
[07:35] <chx> there seems to some wallet problem
[07:36] <gtwy> chx: try gaim?
[07:36] <chx> we are on Kubuntu, thanks for you advice
[07:36] <gtwy> it still installs fine
[07:37] <gtwy> just because you use kde doesnt mean you cant, heaven's fobid, use one gnome application
[07:37] <chx> but I do not want
[07:37] <RoKFiT> how do i change the login manager to not run my monitor at a bad Hz?
[07:37] <RoKFiT> or X
[07:37] <mortici> does the gxineplugin play movies in firefox or does i launch xine then it plays the movie?
[07:37] <chx> hmmm
[07:37] <chx> works now
[07:38] <intelikey> what error; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop xubunt-desktop
[07:40] <robotgeek> spelt wrong?
[07:41] <intelikey> RoKFiT the "login manager" commonly called kdm doesn't do anything with the rezolution or refresh rates. afaik     what ever xorg.conf default is should be what kdm is using.
[07:41] <intelikey> robotgeek hehhe yeah.  but that's beside the point.
[07:45] <RoKFiT> maybe i need a reboot?
[07:46] <intelikey> yeah that would be the Windows thing  to do
[07:46] <intelikey> ah.
[07:46] <intelikey> but this is not windows.
[07:47] <RoKFiT> any good ftp programs?
[07:48] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: client or server?
[07:49] <unix_infidel> proftpd is a great server, and ncftp is a great cli client, alternatively, gftp is a good gui ftp client.
[07:50] <unix_infidel> be aware though that proftpd has some security flaws that might not have been patched yet.
[07:50] <RoKFiT> client
[07:50] <unix_infidel> http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/2856
[07:50] <RoKFiT> yeah i want gui
[07:50] <unix_infidel> gftp
[07:50] <intelikey> ftp sftp ncftp gfpt konqueror does ftp   and so does mc
[07:50] <unix_infidel> there's also a firefox extention.
[07:51] <intelikey> gftp
[07:51] <RoKFiT> stupid question, but are any "kde look friendly"
[07:51] <RoKFiT> like they look like they belong on kde
[07:51] <intelikey> konqueror  is part of kde
[07:51] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: if you want something that does FTP like windowx explorer, Konq is your best bet.
[07:51] <RoKFiT> no i want something like cuteftp or smartftp
[07:52] <intelikey> gentoo is good with ftp also
[07:52] <mortici> lol
[07:52] <mortici> gentoo is great if you have the time or patience
[07:52] <intelikey> mortici just apt-get install gentoo
[07:52] <mortici> lol
[07:52] <intelikey> don't take long.
[07:53] <intelikey> a few seconds
[07:53] <unix_infidel> hmmm, smartftp DOES look like a good windows client.
[07:53] <Invisible_Slack> I have a Dual Core AMD 3800+ with Nforce 4 chipset dual raptor 74 gigs and 1 gig ram with nvidia 7800 video card I keep trying to install kubuntu and everytime it gets to the blue screen loading it just freezes.. Any ideas?
[07:53] <mortici> intelikey, i droped gentoo 2 days ago after using it for 2 years, and i couldn't be happier here
[07:53] <unix_infidel> mortici: in favor of?
[07:53] <mortici> kubuntu
[07:54] <intelikey> mortici so maybe you haven't understood me here.  i haven't mentioned the linux distro "gentoo"   but the file managere "gentoo"
[07:54] <RoKFiT> bbl guys thanks for the help
[07:54] <mortici> intelikey, oh whooooops
[07:54] <mortici> :P
[07:55] <intelikey> ;/
[07:55] <intelikey> as i was saying   'gentoo' does ftp  very well
[07:55] <intelikey> but most don't like the interface that well
[07:56] <gtwy> mortici: why did you drop gentoo? etc-update?
[08:01] <BluDog_Anchorite> the rescue operation 'grub-reinstall' failed with exit code 20.   any idea why i cant re-install grub ?
[08:01] <gtwy> mortici: why did you drop gentoo? etc-update?
[08:02] <mortici> gtwy, emerge was becoming a hassle, portage was becoming more broken, and keeping the distro clean was a nightmare, plus i couldn't get beryl to run for the life of me
[08:03] <gtwy> mortici: portage does seem to break a lot for updates
[08:03] <mortici> as far as customizability, and actual learning its fantastic
[08:03] <gtwy> i dont know, gentoo is more of a command line only type of system even though i have used X on it
[08:03] <mortici> you learn a lot more by using it, mainly about how stuff interacts and what now
[08:03] <tony__> anyone play wolfenstein ET here and had the sound issue?
[08:03] <gtwy> mortici: agreed
[08:04] <mortici> but the fact that it took me 1.5 hours to setup a full running kubuntu system with EVERYTHING i had on the gentoo system which took (at least for me) a few weeks cause i had to do everything manually
[08:04] <mortici> then again it was a great learning experience
[08:05] <gtwy> mortici: minimal gentoo install taught me a lot... took about a week because i would do a few hours here and there
[08:05] <mortici> yep
[08:05] <mortici> took almost 8 hours to bootstrap my laptop
[08:05] <gtwy> mortici: if something breaks on the kubuntu system at least you know your way around now though, right?
[08:06] <mortici> compiling everything was great and all but a huge time sink
[08:06] <mortici> gtwy, enough to fix most things
[08:06] <mortici> ive gotten stuck here and there
[08:06] <gtwy> i used to think it was real cool to compile everything
[08:06] <mortici> just cause the errors were waaaayyyy to vague
[08:06] <mortici> gtwy, so did i
[08:06] <gtwy> but i think gentoo sort of kills it by overdoing it
[08:06] <mortici> lol untill i realized i could of had the same apps installed in less then a few mins
[08:07] <xsacha> i use crux distro and it takes me a day to get it setup like kubuntu (everything compiled from source, .. even gcc, kernel, xorg, kde)
[08:07] <gtwy> especially when you go to install a program and it needs to compile 22 things first
[08:07] <mortici> gtwy, exactly
[08:07] <mortici> lol
[08:07] <xsacha> from fresh install
[08:07] <gtwy> mortici: ill tell you what though, i put gentoo on my amd x2 64
[08:07] <gtwy> and it was QUICK
[08:07] <mortici> I heard good things about Arch, but i heard great things about kubuntu as well so i figured id go with it
[08:08] <mortici> gtwy, i bet, compared to my 1ghz intel centrino
[08:08] <xsacha> i think it's good to have a source distro and a package distro
[08:08] <xsacha> crux on primary, kubuntu on secondary
[08:08] <mortici> xsacha, nice
[08:08] <gtwy> i still use gentoo for my servers
[08:08] <mortici> once i upgrade my desktop
[08:09] <mortici> ill prolly run kubuntu and gentoo
[08:09] <gtwy> seriously though, until i tried kubuntu i didnt think that linux was a serious desktop os
[08:16] <ubuntu> hi all?
[08:16] <RoKFiT> i enabled and downloaded nvidia-glx and rebooted, but my driver says nv still
[08:17] <robotgeek> RoKFiT, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <robotgeek> ubuntu: hello
[08:17] <ubuntu> o..
[08:17] <ubuntu> i am using a cd
[08:18] <ubuntu> can i listen to *.wma file?
[08:18] <robotgeek> ubuntu: with the codecs, you cna
[08:18] <RoKFiT> robotgeek: what option do i want to select for an nvidia 7600gs?
[08:18] <robotgeek> !restricted > ubuntu
[08:18] <RoKFiT> nv?
[08:18] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: something other than nv, i would guess
[08:18] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: i am not sure, i dont use nvdia/ati
[08:19] <RoKFiT> i don't see anything suitable
[08:19] <RoKFiT> i was moreless looking to install nvidia drivers.  in fedora the update manager installed a driver
[08:19] <RoKFiT> kmod-nvidia
[08:21] <ubuntu> does anyone knows how to download the codecs?
[08:22] <RoKFiT> for what
[08:23] <robotgeek> ubuntu: i gave you link to page explaining how?
[08:23] <ubuntu> um thx
[08:23] <RoKFiT> lol
[08:23] <ubuntu> for windows audio]
[08:24] <RoKFiT> kubuntu is too phat
[08:26] <ubuntu> what is the meaning of "phat"???
[08:29] <intelikey> well that's an odd error.   "I'm sorry, You cannot use blackbox without php 4.2 or later.
[08:30] <intelikey> dapper has php5... that must have been an old script.
[08:33] <intelikey> hmmm and you have to install apache to install php5   that's wac
[08:37] <dennister> hello ppls
[08:37] <dennister> anyone awake?
[08:37] <julle> hello
[08:37] <dennister> ji julie
[08:37] <pierre_> im here...
[08:38] <dennister> oops...jullle
[08:38] <julle> ;)
[08:38] <dennister> can't spell tonight, sorry...hi pierre
[08:38] <pierre_> hehe
[08:38] <intelikey> that would be a matter of openion dennister
[08:38] <dennister> i guess i get this way when I have a social dilemma, lol
[08:39] <dennister> hi intelikey :)
[08:39] <unix_infidel> heh, did you have an actual question?
[08:39] <intelikey> :)
[08:39] <pierre_> i have one....
[08:39] <dennister> it's off-topic, would anyone mind a quick one?
[08:39] <pierre_> whats the topic??
[08:40] <intelikey> shoot
[08:40] <dennister> pierre_: if you have a kubuntu-related question, ur would have priority
[08:40] <intelikey> !topic
[08:40] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:40] <julle> is there a simple guide somewhere on how to compile a new kernel?
[08:40] <pierre_> im new whit linux...........
[08:41] <julle> pierre_: so am i :)
[08:41] <pierre_> hehe
[08:41] <intelikey> julle kernel.org ?
[08:41] <pierre_> how can i look for different server on irc?
[08:41] <dennister> i've been volunteering for over a year at a national charity...now they've invited me for cocktails with the Board of Directors for International Volunteer Day...these directors fly from all over Canada for these quarterly meetings...and I really want to turn down this honour :(
[08:41] <julle> intelikey: ok i'll check that out
[08:42] <intelikey> julle may i enquire as to why you are rolling your own kernel ?
[08:42] <pierre_> LOL
[08:42] <dennister> how can I get away with this without it being a horrible snub...they've even told me to bring a guest :(
[08:42] <intelikey> dennister tell them you're not interested
[08:43] <pierre_> i see....
[08:43] <dennister> lol is right...but it's so rude...none of the staff get invited to these things
[08:43] <julle> intelikey: i wanted to update the kernel to the latest
[08:44] <MPat> Hi! I run into a question and decided to ask here. I have not been able to find kaffeine sc plugin. Do you know if there is one available?
[08:44] <compnstuff> did you check on automatix...thought I saw one there
[08:44] <intelikey> ok. i'm wierd.   but i find it far more paletable when someone is open and honest than when they try to " not hurt my feelings "  dennister
[08:44] <dennister> never mind...it's the holidays...I'll say I had a previous seasonal obligation
[08:45] <MPat> i will check.
[08:45] <intelikey> sure lie to them....
[08:45] <intelikey> that's always easier
[08:45] <dennister> i actually agree with you intelikey...i prefer the blunt truth to a polite lie any day
[08:46] <dennister> hence my dilemma :(
[08:46] <dennister> be a hypocrite or tell a lie
[08:46] <ArrenLex> Sorry, I came late. Why does this involve you being a hypocrite?
[08:47] <dennister> oops...be a hypocrite and* tell a lie, or be rude and turn down what's intended to be an honour
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Well, do you think it's worse to lie or to be rude?
[08:47] <dennister> or grin and bear it and keep my trap shut
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Yes, or suffer.
[08:48] <compnstuff> quikQ...Ubuntu runs fine...I like KDE...install Kubuntu and had to reinstall my vid drivers etc...Y???
[08:48] <intelikey> dennister either or ???   sounded more like   "be a hypocritical lier "  or  " possably offend someone with the truth "
[08:48] <dennister> there's the rub...I don't know...I don't really want to tell them the truth about why I don't want to go
[08:48] <intelikey> yeah or that last one.
[08:48] <dennister> lol...technical questions and dilemmas are easier
[08:48] <intelikey> ArrenLex if that would have been aimed at me, the answer is easy.
[08:49] <ArrenLex> intelikey: for myself as well, of course.
[08:49] <ArrenLex> I'm a jerk :)
[08:51] <dennister> would u go to a function to receive an 'honor' you have no itnerest in, realizing that others are trying to reward and recognize your gifts to them?
[08:51] <intelikey> dennister would i or have i ?
[08:51] <dennister> both
[08:52] <dennister> either
[08:52] <intelikey> either way.  generally yes
[08:52] <intelikey> yes have  and generally would.
[08:53] <intelikey> but if for what ever reason i desided not to.  that would be the answer.    not some polite lie.
[08:54] <Zabulus> im baaaack
[08:54] <dennister> test lag
[08:54] <fyun> huh?
[08:54] <Zabulus> im just waiting for that stupid bsod again
[08:55] <intelikey> oh my.   i just remembered i'm lagging       bad.   my answers must look oddd
[08:55] <MPat> compnstuff, no sc in automatix, any other idea?
[08:55] <intelikey> dennister yeah lag.
[08:55] <dennister> i'm lagging too, not to worry
[08:55] <unix_infidel> Zabulus: it'll give you more verbose output than just a BSOD
[08:55] <compnstuff> *MPat, checked latest repositories list
[08:55] <no_name> fe
[08:56] <no_name> ok thanks
[08:56] <Zabulus> on windows, i just forgot to write everything down
[08:56] <dennister> well, thx for the input...i'll shut up about this and go on-topic again
[08:56] <unix_infidel> Zabulus: my best guess is that it's trying to find a kernel from the local cd that works with your newfangled hardware but it's not finding the appropriate kernel
[08:56] <dennister> my kde's a total mess :(
[08:56] <Zabulus> got so used to resetting when i saw the bsod in windows 95
[08:56] <Zabulus> yeah, but i just gotta figure out which one
[08:56] <intelikey> ok i'm caught up now.  all the lag will probably be 'pebcak' now.
[08:56] <dennister> bash tab-completion isn't even working anymore
[08:57] <GoC-> Hola, alguien de espaa?
[08:57] <unix_infidel> !es
[08:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:57] <dennister> anyone got a fix for that? or even know why it might stop working?
[08:57] <Zabulus> i enabled logging of wiadebug.log
[08:58] <intelikey> dennister two clues.   tab key not working    or  tab key maped incorrectly.
[08:58] <dennister> well name-tab completion in konversation is working fine, so it can't be the key...
[08:59] <intelikey> dennister ok.  drop into a console and test bash there
[09:01] <dennister> nope...console tabbing just acts like it's a document
[09:01] <dennister> but I know I haven't made any edits to the keyboard mapping
[09:02] <dennister> i have to blame kde...so many other problems with it exist I'm afraid I may have to install everything from scratch again
[09:02] <intelikey> dennister ok  then go back there and use   showkey    hit tab   and see if you get    0x0f 0x8f       (incase you are new to showkey, just wait 10 seconds and it ends)
[09:03] <Zabulus> `.
[09:03] <Zabulus> ~.