[14:14] <tonisius> jrib: at this hour, I need a working desktop
[14:14] <tonisius> laptop only has so much space, (30GB)
[14:14] <kuroryuu> everton137: did you restart your browser?
[14:15] <xnv> jrib: Any reason for usig > instead of |? | means I can read it too and maybe add more info if I don't think it's sufficient.
[14:15] <everton137> kuroryuu, I meant, it was installed
[14:15] <xnv> *using
[14:15] <hosk> if my current computer is running an X server, and the computer i'm SSH'd into is running an X server, how do I remotely start/forward an X server
[14:15] <tonisius> and my desktop has too much, 3 partitions, 2x windows with important files, and linux which has the backups
[14:15] <droopsta915> i ned to install an installer deb-bin file, its on my desktop, how can i do so?
[14:15] <jrib> xnv: spams the channel less
[14:16] <xnv> jrib: Not by much. Still prints a message, just a bit shorter.
[14:16] <jrib> xnv: you can '/msg ubottu FACTOID' if you aren't sure what info he sent
[14:16] <everton137> kuroryuu, if you try playing this "http://terratv.terra.com.br/olimpiadas/templates/ol_playerlive.aspx?vgnid=179955"on mplayer, what happens?
[14:16] <DarkLoverRising> Hello
[14:16] <wiredless> jrib: its says couldnt find package
[14:16] <entropy0228> 안녕하세요
[14:16] <jrib> wiredless: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:16] <kuroryuu> everton137: plays the same
[14:16] <everton137> kuroryuu, here says "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll"
[14:16] <entropy0228> ㅡㅡ;;
[14:17] <xnv> hosk: Both client and server have to be configured for X11 forwarding
[14:17] <entropy0228> quit
[14:17] <DarkLoverRising> is there a ubuntu laptop channel?
[14:17] <DarkLoverRising> an*
[14:17] <wiredless> jrib: how do i do that?
[14:17] <everton137> I just lost second brazilian goal :P
[14:17] <jrib> !pastebin > wiredless
[14:17] <raspac> Thanks Jrib.. got your point I will try it now.
[14:18] <xnv> jrib: If ubottu didn't print that "please see my private message" thing, it'd be better.
[14:18] <JeanEdouardF> Hi ! Someone can write my nick please ?
[14:18] <hosk> xnv, thanks
[14:18] <timz> JeanEdouardF, why?
[14:19] <jrib> xnv: he used to not do that, but it was changed recently.  I think the issue was people would often ignore their private message and attempts like my alias I had before with the parenthetical statement didn't seem to help
[14:19] <JeanEdouardF> Ok.. Thanks. I'm just doing some tests with my IRC cliend !
[14:19] <JeanEdouardF> *client
[14:19] <timz> who knows how to get the frozen-buuble soundtrack
[14:19] <kuroryuu> everton137: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[14:19] <LimCore> helo
[14:19] <LimCore> I can not print.
[14:19] <LimCore> audit(1218633302.283:6): type=1503 operation="capable" name="dac_read_search" pid=19062 profile="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" namespace="default"
[14:19] <LimCore> how to disable this #$%^&*( so that I can print as usuall (it worked recently)
[14:20] <everton137> kuroryuu, I think I have to add some repository... E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[14:20] <DarkLoverRising> are thinkpads 100% linux native?
[14:20] <jrib> DarkLoverRising: what does "linux native" mean?  Most come with windows
[14:20] <LimCore> how to disable this damn audit?
[14:20] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[14:21] <everton137> kuroryuu, let me try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs?action=show
[14:21] <DarkLoverRising> jrib, in the instance of say webcam, wireless etc.
[14:21] <kuroryuu> everton137: hmm...  I you run grub under chroot it's dificult.  test always wether (in grub cmd-line) find /boot/grub/menu.list is seen
[14:23] <LimCore> omg....
[14:23] <LimCore> HOW TO DISABLE ************ APP ARMORED *********** THAT BLOCKS MY CUPS
[14:23] <pogay> tonius I mean it runs fine, usually
[14:23] <tonisius> ok, I can't go through with the reinstall of the partition layout....
[14:23] <the_darkside_986> My friend has a ThinkPad laptop but has to use ndiswrapper.
[14:23] <jrib> LimCore: don't be annoying please
[14:23] <tonisius> but I am going through the UbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:23] <abcZ> ??
[14:23] <Dr_willis> !apparmor
[14:24] <abcZ> hi
[14:24] <pengo> DarkLoverRising: i have a thinkpad and it took some effort to get it going with linux
[14:24] <LimCore> I read that wiki entry
[14:24] <tonisius> http://pastie.org/252178 <-- this is my current hard disk layout
[14:24] <LimCore> instructions gaved there do not work
[14:24] <the_darkside_986> Those System76 notebooks look nice though. They come with Ubuntu already on them. Not sure about the webcam drivers though.
[14:24] <pengo> DarkLoverRising: thinkwiki.org is good.
[14:24] <tonisius> my linux system was installed on sdc,
[14:24] <LimCore> sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor kill
[14:24] <LimCore> Killing AppArmor module - failed, AppArmor is builtin: Failed
[14:24] <malic> can someone help me.. i have installed kubuntu hardy and the new 8.6 ati driver for ati radeon 9800 with envy. now i have problems, because mesa is running. i want fglrx to run compiz
[14:24] <tonisius> but I'm not sure what to make of it, it looks out of wack
[14:24] <DarkLoverRising> I was looking at the system76 serval
[14:25] <tonisius> any other ideas on how to go about this?
[14:25] <Sylphid|work> what command line tool can I use to control fan speed ?
[14:25] <pogay> tonius, usually it's the easiest to install grub from the live CD, mount the /inst/boot to your /  and run grup-install  /dev/.. the grub update
[14:25] <nedwell> I have a dual boot with Windows XP Professional and Ubuntu 8.04.  I have reinstalled Windows XP, but it replaced my GRUB menu.  How do I get it back?!  Thanks!
[14:25] <jrib> !grub > nedwell
[14:26] <nedwell> jrib: thanks!
[14:27] <legend2440> malic: here is a how to see link that says Removing Mesa Drivers   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[14:28] <tonisius> pogay: just tried it
[14:28] <tonisius> didn't work..
[14:28] <G|enn> Hmm, I have an issue.. When I save my WLAN network in Ubuntu, and reboots, the network is gone, so I have to set it up again.. why?
[14:28] <tonisius> used grub-install --root-directory.....
[14:28] <pogay> tonisius:  what was the problem?
[14:29] <tonisius> pThe file /mnt//boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[14:29] <tonisius> if I don't use the --recheck flag, I get this error:  /dev/sdc1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[14:30] <tonisius> using this command now:  root@ubuntu:/# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda --recheck
[14:30] <pogay> important ist that you make a mount --bind /mnt/inst/ boot /boot
[14:30] <tonisius> I had mounted /dev/sda to /mnt
[14:30] <tonisius> inst?
[14:30] <pogay> may be you have to tonisius your isntallation
[14:30] <tonisius> what is inst?
[14:30] <tonisius> hmm
[14:31] <kepler-linux> hello. im looking for someone who has experience in ltsp. is there anyone?
[14:31] <tonisius> i've never seen that before, I'll do that I guess...
[14:31] <gatestone> zash, there is a thread at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/cnn-live-video-591293/ but rather strange and flaky resulutions
[14:32] <pogay> tonisius: mount --bind /mnt/yournewinstallation/ boot /boot  so grub installs to your installation not to CD-Bootable.
[14:32] <kepler-linux> or does anybody know if i can use dlan with LTSP?
[14:32] <pogay> kepler-linux: yes I'm certain. A fiend of mine uses dlan, with ltsp
[14:33] <hosk> do I have to uncomment the 3 Xforwarding lines on both machines to forward X11 through SSH
[14:33] <kepler-linux> pogay, so it should work with dlan?
[14:33] <tonisius> pogay: command doesn't work, and I replaced the yournewinstallation
[14:33] <remoteCTRL> anyone got experience with lsi 1078 sas raid controller?
[14:33] <xnv> hosk: On the server, it should just have to be enabled. On the client, connecting with the -X option is usually sufficient.
[14:34] <kepler-linux> pogay, when the client is loading the nbi.img it doesn't work.
[14:34] <tonisius> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  I'm moving down the list
[14:34] <kepler-linux> :(
[14:34] <pogay> kepler-linux:  dlan (powerline) just replaces a normal LAN, should work if connection works
[14:34] <tonisius> right now going to try Super Grub Disk
[14:34] <bmeynell> how can I tell how much swap space I'm using?
[14:34] <tonisius> bmeynell: df -ha
[14:34] <bmeynell> thanks tonisius
[14:34] <kepler-linux> pogay, the connection should be ok, because we get ip form DHCP
[14:35] <bmeynell> tonisius: hmm... it didn't return anything that was blatantly swap space
[14:35] <pogay> tonisius:  look at my wiki http://www.ddy.ch/pm/laden/pm.wiki/HW-Installation/GRUB1
[14:35] <tonisius> bmeynell: look at the part labeled swap
[14:35] <tonisius> bmeynell: should show
[14:35] <bmeynell> tonisius: nadda... it's a vps
[14:36] <tonisius> then you can't know
[14:36] <bmeynell> ^^^ don't know if that's maybe why
[14:36] <tonisius> ask your provider
[14:36] <tonisius> you're CHrooted
[14:36] <tonisius> and have no access to that information
[14:36] <pogay> kepler-linux:  yes so ltsp should work with problem.
[14:36] <bmeynell> tonisius: ahh, k... is it possible to create additional swap space or is that another question for my host?
[14:37] <pogay> tonisius: don't try with chroot, it very complicated that it works
[14:37] <remoteCTRL> xnv: well basically i wanna know if it works properly with linux?
[14:38] <kepler-linux> pogay, ok. i try it again. maybe it works now...
[14:38] <kepler-linux> *hope*
[14:38] <pogay> kepler-linux:  good luck!
[14:38] <kepler-linux> pogay, thanks
[14:39] <tonisius> pogay: i've done the grub repair 4 times today
[14:39] <tonisius> this time it doesnt work
[14:39] <tonisius> I normally just do the root (hd2,1)
[14:39] <tonisius> then setup (hd0)
[14:39] <tonisius> install
[14:39] <tonisius> then I'm done
[14:39] <pogay> tonisius:  I know sometimes it's tricky...
[14:39] <FloodBot1> tonisius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <wers> i'm on a live cd now. I cant login to a DE session because there's not enough space on my root partition. what can I do to free some space?
[14:39] <tonisius> woops, sorry
[14:40] <hosk> i'm trying to forward X and i get X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication
[14:40] <xnv> remoteCTRL: OK, then ask the channel.
[14:40] <timmillwood> im struggling to get a java plugin for firefox on Ubuntu, anyone know of any helpful resourses?
[14:40] <kuroryuu> bmeynell: the program free will tell you how much swap and memory are being used
[14:40] <tonisius> timmillwood: have you tried java?
[14:40] <bmeynell> kuroryuu: Swap: 0 0 0
[14:40] <zorglu_> q. i got a ubuntu-server installation in french language, and i would like to switch it to english, where should i look ?
[14:40] <Circus-Killer> timmillwood, install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[14:41] <Circus-Killer> timmillwood, then run sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[14:41] <sherbsauce> I'm extremely new to linux and have just installed ubuntu on a 2nd drive. I cant seem to get any drivers for it so the display looks terrible and the internet wont work. Can anyone offer me any suggestions as Toshiba doesnt seem to offer any support, naturally.
[14:41] <kuroryuu> bmeynell: do you have a swap partition set up?
[14:41] <tonisius> he's on a VPS
[14:41] <timmillwood> Circus-Killer: thanks
[14:41] <tonisius> kuroryuu: he's on a VPS
[14:41] <tonisius> he's been chrooted
[14:42] <bmeynell> kuroryuu: it's a vps... that's what I'm trying to figure out... how badly I'm being f**** and if I should move to a real server
[14:42] <bmeynell> I need a gig of swap space
[14:42] <tonisius> bmeynell: bemoved to a dedicated real server
[14:42] <tonisius> you will always have to share with others the resources you want
[14:42] <tonisius> that's what a VPS is for
[14:42] <remoteCTRL> *sigh*
[14:42] <tonisius> I know, i have friends that did a lot of torrenting, or hogging processes
[14:43] <bmeynell> price isn't that different nowadays either
[14:43] <remoteCTRL> is lsi 1078 sas raid controller compatible with ubuntu?
[14:43] <datacrusher> hi people
[14:43] <tonisius> so why would someone go for a VPS?
[14:43] <tonisius> if they aren't that different?
[14:43] <datacrusher> iv got a problem with samba, and i saw an issue regardin to vista
[14:43] <datacrusher> so i found that my version of samba, 3.028 its much older than the one that can talk to vista
[14:43] <timmillwood> I am thinking about switching 100% from Mac OS X to Ubuntu, thoughts?
[14:43] <jbroome> tonisius: they probably don't know how to manage a real server
[14:43] <datacrusher> so i used apt-get upgrade samba
[14:44] <datacrusher> but none new was found, so iv downloaded a .tar file from samba.org
[14:44] <jbroome> timmillwood: personally, i don't care
[14:44] <tonisius> handling a desktop is harder, when you're handling many hard drives in a week
[14:44] <datacrusher> how do i install tar packages on ubuntu?
[14:44] <tonisius> a server never needs to be shut off or anything
[14:44] <MikeSeth> datacrusher: you don't have tar installed?
[14:44] <MikeSeth> datacrusher: thats impossible
[14:44] <tonisius> nor upgrading video drivers, all the stuff is simpler
[14:44] <tonisius> my desktop has been nothing but hell
[14:44] <kuroryuu> bmeynell: this could help: http://devnulled.com/content/2007/06/how-to-display-linux-vps-memory-usage/
[14:44] <filo1234> hello how can i to see wich kind of FS is formatted an HD, with fdisk -l i see only type Linux
[14:45] <bmeynell> kuroryuu: thanks
[14:45] <timmillwood> jbroome: i'm not bothered if you care or not, i am wondering if I will get any problems, or have any issue, is there any guidance? etc
[14:45] <tonisius> filo1234: you did it as sudo/root?
[14:45] <sherbsauce> Can anybody tell me how to wipe a drive that has ubuntu installed? I want to fresh install it.
[14:45] <landonab> Question: I have an older laptop with an ATI Radeon 9200 and am looking at upgrading to a new laptop with either an Intel X3100 or an Nvidia Geforce GO 7150M.  Problem I have with the older laptop is external monitor support does not work.  Does anyone know if I would have better luck with the latter cards?
[14:45] <tonisius> sherbsauce: rm -rf / ?
[14:45] <filo1234> tonisius:  yes sudo fdisk -l but i canot see if is ext3 or ext2 or jfs
[14:45] <Pirate_Hunter> are there any guides to newbs trying out ubuntu server, like tutorials I could do "i wish to try ubuntu server but have no reason to use it"?
[14:45] <tonisius> filo1234: hmm, mine showed me the actual type
[14:46] <filo1234> tonisius: /dev/sdb1               1        4998    40146403+  83  Linux
[14:46] <kuroryuu> landonab: I've heard support for the X3100 isn't great, and nvidia cards usually have the best support
[14:46] <stdin> sherbsauce: just put the liveCD in and choose "install", it'll format it for you
[14:46] <tonisius> actually, mine doesn't say it either.
[14:46] <RodMcKay> hi all, is there a way to tell gnome to align the desktop icons on the right side?
[14:46] <tonisius> that sucks
[14:46] <jbroome> timmillwood: oh sorry, you just asked for "thoughts" with no direction or specification
[14:46] <tonisius> filo1234: try mounting it.
[14:46] <sherbsauce> Stdin - Thanks very much
[14:46] <datacrusher> i may have
[14:46] <tonisius> filo1234: that was another alternative, then do a df -Tha
[14:46] <landonab> kuroryuu thanks for the response
[14:46] <datacrusher> i just dont know the comand
[14:46] <tonisius> or -T
[14:46] <juro> hi, is there a similar program to Enso for Ubuntu?
[14:46] <tonisius> for the type
[14:47] <filo1234> tonisius:  ok i try
[14:47] <DigitalTanha> how can i get also to play multiple streams?
[14:47] <filo1234> tonisius:  thanks
[14:47] <filo1234> ok
[14:47] <DigitalTanha> *alsa
[14:47] <kuroryuu> filo1234: try cfdisk, that usually tells me which FS
[14:47] <datacrusher> MikeSeth: i may have, its an ubuntu server install
[14:47] <datacrusher> text only
[14:47] <landonab> kuroryuu i am just concerned that if i get the same lack of support for the external monitor that i should not bother upgrading to a new laptop....waste of money
[14:47] <MikeSeth> datacrusher: I've never seen an *nix box that doesnt have tar
[14:47] <Rabbitbunny> Anybody happen to know why my cursor is yellow and a can't backspace in terminal->screen->irssi under xubuntu 8.04?
[14:47] <MikeSeth> datacrusher: or did you mean install software from source tarballs?
[14:48] <tonisius> kuroryuu: I learned it doesnt help much
[14:48] <pogay> tonisius:  is it the first time you install grub?
[14:48] <tonisius> pogay: nope,
[14:48] <tonisius> pogay: done this way too many times,
[14:48] <tonisius> installed 100 too many servers
[14:48] <tonisius> from gentoo to redhat
[14:48] <datacrusher> it HAVE, i think
[14:49] <pogay> tonisius: sometimes it reacts very strange...
[14:49] <kepler-linux> pogay, thanks. i restarted the ltsp-server while it was connected with the dlan. after the restart it works.
[14:49] <MikeSeth> btw re ATI: X300 fglx has issues
[14:49] <kepler-linux> thanks
[14:49] <kuroryuu> landonab: you could always get a macbook :P though I personally can't stand OS X, it's at least a unix
[14:49] <tonisius> pogay: today it's the strangest, none of my normal methods work, and none of google's methods have worked
[14:49] <datacrusher> im just worried about how to do it on the text mode, without losing the folder paths and so on
[14:49] <tonisius> I'm doing the reinstall of the OS< and seeing if that will do
[14:49] <tonisius> that's the last step in the ubuntu how to repair grub
[14:49] <pogay> tonisius: I made recently a few installations on usb-Drives and sticks, usually it works. On Drive did only work with grub2
[14:49] <landonab> kuroryuu i have considered that.  just not wanting to spend the money if i am only going to use linux.  would rather invest in a thinkpad
[14:49] <timmillwood> if I setup a ubuntu server locally on VMware can I install it on my VPS? if so how?
[14:50] <MikeSeth> tonisius: hmmm?
[14:50] <tonisius> pogay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#The%20GUI%20Way:%20Using%20the%20Alternate/Install%20CD%20and%20Overwriting%20the%20Windows%20bootloader
[14:50] <MikeSeth> timmillwood: probably yes, but i wouldnt recommend it
[14:50] <kuroryuu> landonab: well you can look up the model on http://linux-laptop.net/ and see if other people have gotten it working
[14:50] <filo1234> tonisius:  but suppse if i cannot mount HD because i don' t know FS, my question is: is possible to see FS of an HD not mounted??
[14:50] <melter> what's the procedure for replacing dhclient3 with dhcpcd?
[14:50] <MikeSeth> melter: apt-get does that on its own iirc
[14:51] <jbroome> filo1234: sudo fdisk -l
[14:51] <tonisius> filo1234: if the fdisk, and cfdisk didn't see it, then maybe it could be mounted with mount without specifying the type
[14:51] <timmillwood> mikeseth: you think I would be better just setting it up on VPS to start with?
[14:51] <kepler-linux> bye
[14:51] <zorglu_> !language
[14:51] <tonisius> it will try, and report an error, or mount it
[14:51] <zorglu_> nah
[14:51] <landonab> kuroryuu thanks.  i have done a lot of googling but i will check out the link.
[14:51] <melter> MikeSeth: it doesn't uninstall dhclient, which is used before dhcpcd
[14:51] <tonisius> if it mounts it, you can see the type using df -T
[14:51] <pogay> tonisius: but the trick to mount ---bind  did help me a lot.
[14:51] <filo1234> tonisius:  is only a curiosity
[14:51] <MikeSeth> melter: so uninstall it manually
[14:51] <kibibyte> hi
[14:51] <MikeSeth> timmillwood: probably
[14:52] <kibibyte> ls
[14:52] <melter> MikeSeth: then network-manager is uninstalled, which kills networking altogether
[14:52] <kibibyte> i created a script and i want to execute it during systm startup , i coied it to /etc/init.d but it dosnt start
[14:52] <kibibyte> why
[14:52] <tonisius> filo1234: then try it
[14:53] <triggerhapp> kibibyte: First step, did you remember to set it chmod +x ?
[14:53] <kibibyte> its is +x
[14:53] <pogay> tonisius:  when I made a installation via chroot in /dev/sdc  . Grub wanted to install in /dev/scd8 (!).  sca8 was my real / and  sdc2 was the chroot.
[14:53] <melter> MikeSeth: ubuntu ships with 4 dhcp clients, but there appears to be no documented way of actually using anything other than dhcp3-client
[14:53] <nemo_> any operator whose i ask
[14:54] <kibibyte> triggerhapp, it is
[14:54] <MikeSeth> melter: I bet it's a debian alternative
[14:54] <pogay> tonisius: IMHO, when grub has problems with the stages, it looks at the wrong place.
[14:54] <triggerhapp> Yeah, give me a mo, im trying to remember how the init scripts work again :P
[14:54] <ncfi1013_> i installed itunes thru wine in linux and still can't get it to "see" my ipod. i opened up both rhythmbox and songbird; they both "see" my ipod, but i can't get them to sync it. how can i do all three of these things: get itunes to see my ipod thru wine, sync my ipod in rhythmbox, and sync my ipod in songbird?
[14:54] <MikeSeth> tonisius: whats your problem w/grub?
[14:54] <bullgard4> How can I make a table which associates a key of my IBM Thinkpad T42 keyboard and its associated keycode, and this for all the 100+ keys?
[14:55] <juro> coming from Windows I would like to have a file "explorer" similar to Directory Opus, is there anything out there for Ubuntu?
[14:55] <kibibyte> triggerhapp, ok
[14:55] <MikeSeth> bullgard4: xev no good?
[14:55] <triggerhapp> kibibyte:  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[14:55] <dfgas> anyone use a q6600 quad core?
[14:55] <nemo_> mikeseth: hi i have notebook Axioo how to install ubuntu for it. that's problem with display
[14:55] <MikeSeth> nemo_: what video?
[14:55] <ikonia> bullgard4: is that really an ubuntu issue ?
[14:55] <joaopinto> juro, you need to describe Directory Opus
[14:55] <nemo_> mikeseth: the chipset is via
[14:55] <ice_cream> mmm, that reminds me, i should think about ipod alts
[14:56] <MikeSeth> nemo_: i dont know anything about via, what's the problem specifically?
[14:56] <juro> joaopinto, Directoy Opus is a Windows Explorer replacement that adds tons of useful features http://www.gpsoft.com.au/
[14:56] <nemo_> mikeseth: thats no more display after install ubuntu
[14:57] <joaopinto> bullgard4, http://web.mit.edu/answers/xwindows/xwindows_xmodmap.html
[14:57] <datacrusher> iv only found regarding to tar on the graphic mode
[14:57] <datacrusher> iv tryed tar -xzvf samba.tar
[14:57] <kibibyte> thx riaal
[14:57] <kibibyte> thx triggerhapp
[14:57] <bullgard4> ikonia: I am surprised that you are not answering but putting this question. The answer to your question is: Yes, it is. If I would use this computer in Windows, I would not be in need of this table.
[14:57] <datacrusher> but it dont work, says the same version
[14:57] <nemo_> mikeshet : my vga crard is via / s3g unichrom pro igp
[14:58] <joaopinto> juro, add/remove, search for file manager, there are plenty of options :P
[14:58] <tonisius> MikeSeth: something that not even the ubuntu site can't help with, I no longer know how to explain my problems with it, except that I can't get grub to mount the partition with /boot/ in it
[14:58] <ikonia> bullgard4: maybe I have missunderstood your question, could you please rephrease it
[14:58] <tonisius> my nix partition is on /dev/sdc1
[14:58] <joaopinto> bullgard4, you need to create a xmodmap for that keyboard
[14:58] <tonisius> I've tried all the tricks except the super grub disk on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#The%20GUI%20Way:%20Using%20the%20Alternate/Install%20CD%20and%20Overwriting%20the%20Windows%20bootloader <---- this site
[14:58] <fulhack> hey.. I have a bit of a strange question. On my laptop (A Zepto ZNote) I have a mute button for audio, and on this button there's a LED. When I press the button in MS-Windows the LED shines, in Linux it doesn't. Can I Light it somehow?
[14:58] <juro> joaopinto, integrated (s)ftp, rename via regex, dual window layout, tabs for each window ...
[14:59] <nemo_> mikeshet : after i install ubuntu blank display and no respons for login screen.
[14:59] <bullgard4> ikonia: I am in a hurry to answer to MikeSeth.
[14:59] <pulsetsar> hi, can anyone help me with a samba problem? or is this the wrong place?
[14:59] <pogay> tonisius: try grub2, but a very recent version...
[14:59] <joaopinto> Jurkki, nautilus has integrated sftp, don't know about th other features
[14:59] <tonisius> currently doing the reinstall portion
[14:59] <MikeSeth> nemo_: so switch to console and diagnose
[14:59] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok, please re-post your question when you have chance, I'm not sure I clearly understood it
[14:59] <tonisius> pogay: not gonna try something new, i'm trying to get this older one to work, and more people know how to use it 'properly'
[14:59] <MikeSeth> tonisius: boot partition corrupt? filesystem type set correctly in partition table?
[14:59] <eeepc> hello
[15:00] <MikeSeth> tonisius: if the fs type is not 83 grub wont boot it
[15:00] <tonisius> MikeSeth: I can mount it myself to /mnt/ and navigate
[15:00] <tonisius> MikeSeth: it sees type 6
[15:00] <roachmmflhyr> !ebox
[15:00] <MikeSeth> tonisius: why? if its a linux fs it has to be 83
[15:00] <tonisius> MikeSeth: but fdisk -l shows more partitions than I should have
[15:00] <tonisius> MikeSeth: I'm just saying what it's telling me
[15:00] <pogay> tonisius:  can you see the things via grub commandline  find /vmlinuz
[15:00] <MikeSeth> tonisius: 1) change fs type to 83 2) fdisk -l > pastebin
[15:01] <tonisius> MikeSeth: already pasted it
[15:01] <bytecode> Hi, is there a way of determining which drivers are currently in use? I'm trying to diagnose a problem with my ATI Gfx card and want to know what is and isn't in use and what's installed...
[15:01] <tonisius> let me get the link
[15:01] <tonisius> http://pastie.org/252178 <-- this is my current hard disk layout
[15:01] <tonisius> MikeSeth: there we go
[15:01] <nemo_> mikeshet : if i use ubuntu live cd thats ok. and no problem with play a demo. but after install i have crash display with it. i try to use with root konsole thats no problem.
[15:02] <xnv> bytecode: lsmod will give you a list of the modules currently in use
[15:02] <tonisius> the /dev/sdc is my linux drive, the fat16 shouldn't be there if I recall,
[15:02] <spree> tonisius wow fat16
[15:02] <MikeSeth> tonisius: which one is your /boot?
[15:02] <tonisius> sdc1 was, and still is
[15:02] <tonisius> I mounted it to mnt right now
[15:02] <tonisius> and it's showing up properly
[15:02] <nemo_> mikeshet : then i try startx, just blank display i saw.
[15:02] <MikeSeth> tonisius: cfdisk, select sdc1, type t, enter 83, save
[15:02] <fauzie> Hi ... how do I get color from the terminal? I meant .... folders are used to be blue, binaries green, archives red, devices yellow, etc ....
[15:02] <tonisius> MikeSeth: ok, will try that
[15:02] <spree> you could convert that to NTFS and get substantial space savings, just fyi
[15:02] <MikeSeth> tonisius: also, why do you have swap in an extended partition? waste of space
[15:02] <bytecode> xnv: thanks - I tried that but wondered whether there was more detail available - hence query
[15:02] <MikeSeth> (albeit little)
[15:03] <tonisius> MikeSeth: it's how ubuntu set it up
[15:03] <remoteCTRL> datacrusher: in that case probably you tryed to extract the tar archive twice
[15:03] <xnv> bytecode: About the drivers or about your card?
[15:03] <gisli> Hver er asni á þessum server
[15:03] <tonisius> and I have 4GB of ram
[15:03] <MikeSeth> tonisius: I'd wipe /dev/sdc2 and /dev/sdc5 and make one primary swap partition /dev/sdc2
[15:03] <bytecode> drivers - I know about the card - but I want to determine whether it's using the radeon, ati orfglrx driver
[15:03] <remoteCTRL> datacrusher: in the .tar file there is supposed to be a configure file ?
[15:03] <sylfire> lo all. who could give me some ubuntu-xen pointers? I tried setting up xen with the ubuntu-xen-server package, the bridging went fine and the adapter for the dom0 can acquire an address from DHCP, but I can't get any network traffic going
[15:04] <xnv> bytecode: If it's using any of those, it should be in lsmod
[15:04] <MikeSeth> tonisius: either way, grub is whining when the partition table fs type marker is invalid - and in this case it is
[15:04] <pogay> tonisius: I had the case, where grub recognised the geometry but couldn't access the files..http://www.ddy.ch/pm/laden/pm.wiki/ProdTest/GRUB..
[15:04] <remoteCTRL> datacrusher: btw you can just right click the tar archive and say extract here
[15:04] <MikeSeth> nemo_: well read the xorg log and see what happens and if tehre is anything suspicious
[15:04] <qrush> i seemed to have modified the opacity of one of my terminal windows
[15:05] <qrush> how can i get it back to 100% with closing it?
[15:05] <ommegang> does the  960-000088-R   logitech quickcam express from geeks.com work in ubuntu?
[15:05] <tonisius> well, I hope this fixes the issue
[15:05] <bytecode> xnv: ok - thx
[15:05] <benistar> qrush, hold ALT pressed and turn up your mouse wheel
[15:05] <tonisius> i got an error with cfdisk
[15:05] <qrush> benistar: i love you
[15:05] <ncfi1013> what is AppDB? where do i find it? and what if you are told that you need libgpod for what i asked you to work and it still doesn't work.
[15:05] <IdleOne> !hardware | ommegang
[15:05] <tonisius> Wrote Partition table, bu re-read table faild. reboot to update table
[15:05] <tonisius> I haven't done fdisk in years
[15:05] <benistar> qrush, or was it ctrl+alt? Im not sure atm :)
[15:06] <triggerhapp> Ncfi, AppDb you can find via google
[15:06] <xnv> bytecode: If it's a pain to search through them, you can use grep, e.g. lsmod | grep ati
[15:06] <tonisius> i'll reboot and follow up
[15:06] <Pirate_Hunter> im really loving my embedded terminal just wish it was the default gnome-terminal instead of xfce4-terminal but i can live with it
[15:06] <Pirate_Hunter> ahhh wrong place
[15:06] <bytecode> xnv: it's more that I wanted to see more detail, version etc... as it's just a "one word" indicator
[15:07] <tonisius> I should ahve been asleep over 8 hours ago
[15:07] <tonisius> *sigh*
[15:07] <xnv> Pirate_Hunter: Strange, I prefer the xfce4-terminal and I run Gnome
[15:07] <tonisius> the life of a tinkerer/programmer
[15:07] <pogay> tonisius: o.k
[15:07] <tonisius> trying to get back into windows, and linux is telling me to sod off
[15:07] <ommegang> ubottu doesnt help much i dont physically have the cam yet
[15:07] <triggerhapp> ubottu: Is a person irl :O
[15:08] <IdleOne> ommegang, why do you need the cam in hand to search a list of supported cams?
[15:08] <tonisius> ubottu: omg, it is
[15:08] <MrBill> I've run into a problem with my Hardy install - my system is acting up on a semi-regular basis. Perhaps once per week it'll "freeze" to the point where I can't open new programs, I'll go to launch something like firefox or evolution and the window will just "grey out" and hang. If I click the log off/power down button in the top right I don't get anything either. The only way I"m able to get back to a useable state is to hop over to another termi
[15:08] <MrBill> nal (ctrl-alt-1) and login and issue a shutdown -r and reboot. I'm not really sure where to start looking as far as logs or whatever, can anyone suggest anything?
[15:08] <`Immortal`> hi guys
[15:08] <Pirate_Hunter> xnv: really... hmmm i dont mind it when it is embedded but in my opinion the gnome has a better feel and look so i like it while xfce4 is big and rough
[15:08] <ommegang> IdleOne because the h/w list has 2 listed for the quickcam express logitech and i dunno what the $4.99 one is on geeks.com .
[15:08] <askand> Is my ATI Mobility Radeon X600 part of the R600 series? Have never understood that..
[15:09] <`Immortal`> how do i change the directory where Ubuntu installs Programs by default?
[15:09] <xnv> Pirate_Hunter: To me they're very similar except that xfce4 is faster and has better default colors
[15:09] <nemo_> pipe man: hi
[15:09] <nemo_> pipeman: hi
[15:09] <xnv> MrBill: When you're on the other terminal, have you tried any diagnosis, like top or ps?
[15:09] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: The programs from synaptic/apt-get?
[15:09] <`Immortal`> Yeah
[15:09] <Redwing> I seem to be unable to install Ubuntu. Been trying now for about 3 days. But it just hangs when detecting file systems =/
[15:10] <Pirate_Hunter> xnv: yah thats true it is much clear than gnome
[15:10] <`Immortal`> those & when i do a sudo ap-get install
[15:10] <MrBill> xnv - I'm not sure what I'd be looking for in those processes - so no, I haven't done that yet.
[15:10] <`Immortal`> same thing
[15:10] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: Why would you want to do that?
[15:10] <sherbsauce> When I install Ubuntu, should it automatically supply drivers to anything?
[15:10] <`Immortal`> 'cause my Ubuntu partition is nearly full
[15:10] <sherbsauce> or do i have to find those drivers myself one at a time
[15:10] <wols_> Redwing: what hardware?
[15:10] <`Immortal`> & i have a free 3.5 GB partition which i can use
[15:10] <MrBill> xnv - I just encountered this problem again about ten minutes ago, and restarted from the other terminal. Is there anything in a log file anywhere that would likely shed some light?
[15:10] <IdleOne> sherbsauce, hopefully yes. but it might not
[15:10] <pah> 0955 KKK IS COMING w00t Hang from the binary tree
[15:11] <pah> 0170 KKK IS COMING w00t Hang from the binary tree
[15:11] <xnv> MrBill: "top" will tell you what is using system resources (see "man top" for details). "ps" will list process info, so you can try to kill them manually ("man ps", "man kill")
[15:11] <pah> 0938 KKK IS COMING w00t Hang from the binary tree
[15:11] <IdleOne> !ops | pah
[15:11] <pah> 0515 KKK IS COMING w00t Hang from the binary tree
[15:11] <Kate234> Hello , I need help ,  can someone explain to me what this command line do ? : sudo ln -s /media/cdrom0 /media/sata/divx
[15:11] <pah> 0150 KKK IS COMING w00t Hang from the binary tree
[15:11] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: Im sure its  possible somewhere,  but its strongly advised not to, it could damage a system
[15:11] <`Immortal`> any other work around triggerhapp ?
[15:11] <MikeSeth> ...
[15:11] <Redwing> wols_: AMD Duron 1.2Ghz +  512Mb RAM. On board GFX from Matrox. 40Gb Samsung HDD
[15:11] <sherbsauce> Idle0ne - is it less likely to autodetect my hardware and stuff if I have installed it on an empty drive? (I have vista on c:\ and a spare 200gb which i was going to put ubuntu on)
[15:11] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: The problem bieng, its installed into /usr/bin and /etc, sometimes even /usr/share/ etc
[15:11] <tonisius> wtf?
[15:12] <`Immortal`> k
[15:12] <xnv> Kate234: It creates a symbolic link using superuser privileges. Read "man ln" and "man sudo"
[15:12] <MrBill> xnv - i'm familiar with top in terms of what it does, and I can see by the system monitor I have on my top panel that my CPU use isn't spiking when this is happening, so I don't think I"d see anything obvious in top.
[15:12] <sherbsauce> I'm running on a Toshiba A200 so I'm guessing that I might run into driver problems.
[15:12] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: You could look into using LVM to turn two harddisks into a virtual single disc
[15:12] <tonisius> I tink I know what happened...
[15:12] <`Immortal`> also i'm planning to upgrade from Onboard video to a discrete video card
[15:12] <IdleOne> sherbsauce, try the Live CD before installing and see if everything works well hardware wise.
[15:12] <tonisius> when installing windows on a secondary drive, it overwrote and damaged my ubuntu install
[15:12] <uzivatel> zdar
[15:12] <uzivatel> jak se máte??
[15:12] <tonisius> that's a first
[15:12] <`Immortal`> which Manufacturer has better support for Linux/Ubuntu?
[15:12] <tonisius> I've always installed iwndows first then ubuntu
[15:12] <`Immortal`> or are they equally bad?
[15:12] <uzivatel>  mluv česky!!!!!!!!!
[15:12] <uzivatel> s
[15:12] <uzivatel> d
[15:12] <uzivatel> d
[15:12] <uzivatel> sd
[15:12] <uzivatel> s
[15:12] <FloodBot1> uzivatel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:12] <uzivatel> ds
[15:12] <xnv> MrBill: OK, then try "ps -e" to get a list of processes and then see what happens if you kill them.
[15:12] <uzivatel> d
[15:13] <uzivatel> sd
[15:13] <MrBill> I guess the ideal is to pop into IRC on another computer when this happens next
[15:13] <brahmana> After having added a keyboard layout for my local language, how do I switch the layout?
[15:13] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: Intel has the best open source drivers, im told, but if you love your graphics, and dont mind using propietary drivers, Nvidia
[15:13] <sherbsauce> well i did, things worked well when i ran it off the cd, but now that i have installed it on a seperate drive, when i boot from said drive the resolution is terrible and wont change
[15:13] <xnv> MrBill: It could be one particular process is the cause of your difficulty, so killing it might at least prevent the need for the reboot, if not give you more information from which we can help diagnose the problem.
[15:13] <tenshinoneko> I have a funny story to tell. My ubuntu ran faster the internet connection of a friend, and he was like amazed cuz his internet connection with windows was always bad like from already 5 years xD
[15:14] <`Immortal`> k thanks
[15:14] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: Im using an Intel graphics card, its usable, and compiz is ok with it, but I have no special features at all
[15:14] <IdleOne> !ot > tenshinoneko
[15:14] <tonisius> please kick/ban the user
[15:14] <`Immortal`> i'm on a waaaaaaay old system
[15:14] <tonisius> w0ops
[15:14] <`Immortal`> an 845!
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> tenshinoneko: ubuntu will run your net better it doesnt have processes hogging bandwidth unless you tell it to
[15:14] <triggerhapp> `Immortal`: 945 :P
[15:14] <`Immortal`> no, 845
[15:14] <`Immortal`> Brookdale
[15:14] <triggerhapp> wait, what? XD
[15:14] <bad_alloc_> hi
[15:15] <hosk> i think i've gotten X11 forwarding to work, but i'm trying to choose a local display to open xnest on, and 0:0 is already taken
[15:15] <sylfire> can anyone maybe point me in a direction to look about this xen issue I'm having?
[15:15] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne: i think he/she was just suprised on how ubuntu rans i dont think they deserve a warning
[15:15] <idhtns> how do i change this default orange background? (not the desktop picture -- the pale orange that shows during boot.  i'm trying other window managers and it shows up all over)
[15:15] <Redwing> Any ideas wols? I've already tried all 4 installation discs (Text and Live for both Server and Desktop) they all get stuck when trying to parition the HDD
[15:16] <Ax-Ax> hello
[15:16] <triggerhapp> idhtns: Go to "login settings" or somesuch, in "local" you will see a colour switching choice.... its orange ;)
[15:16] <triggerhapp> idhtns: Thats what you want to hit
[15:16] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter, the !ot factoid is not really a warning but more of a shove in the right dirtection for idle chat :) but yeah I agree that ubuntu seems to be faster on the net
[15:17] <idhtns> triggerhapp: great, thanks
[15:17] <frostburn> what's the best way to search thousands of document for two strings that may not necessarily be on the same line in a single command?
[15:17] <kibibyte> i have question
[15:17] <IdleOne> kibibyte, ask away
[15:17] <kibibyte> how to run process as diffrent user from script
[15:18] <frostburn> kibibyte, su -
[15:18] <rocko> why when i do chmod the permissions don't change?
[15:18] <IdleOne> rocko, sudo chmod
[15:18] <frostburn> rocko, you don't have permissions to change the permissions
[15:18] <wols_> Redwing: that's all irrelevant. wha chipset? hdd controller, etc
[15:18] <rocko> i did sudo chmod
[15:18] <rocko> still didn't change
[15:18] <wols_> Redwing: what does fdisk -l on the livecd say?
[15:18] <Redwing> wols_: Hmm, now you're asking...Give me 5 minutes while I take the machine apart
[15:19] <Redwing> I'll do the fdisk first as it will be quicker, just rebooting
[15:20] <Redwing> This isn't a machine I've bought or built. Had it given to me. So I haven't got much knowledge of it's internals just yet
[15:20] <nedwell> What is the recommended way for sharing files between two Ubuntu computers via a network?  'shares-admin' isn't working for me.
[15:20] <guntbert> rocko: use chmod -v, so it will be verbose and tell you what it is (not) doing
[15:20] <Ziroday> nedwell: through either samba or nfs
[15:20] <rocko>  sudo chmod 600 authorized_keys2 and nothin is happening
[15:20] <rocko> ok let me try
[15:21] <nedwell> I've done that on computer 1, but when going to places > network on computer 2 I can't see anything at all.
[15:21] <rocko> mode of `authorized_keys2' retained as 0600 (rw-------)
[15:21] <mib_dxm3r3sh> iam new user, i need to set up a mail server...
[15:21] <nedwell> ziroday: (forgot to put your nick, oops) I've done that on computer 1, but when going to places > network on computer 2 I can't see anything at all.
[15:21] <Ziroday> nedwell: one sec
[15:21] <Ax-Ax> i accidentally did chmod my whole filesystem to something, and after that everything broke. there was a "can't cd to /home/axel" error on start, and everything complained about bad permissions, dbus didn't load and so on. is there any list or recomendations or something of what the permissions should be like?
[15:22] <alraune>  Redwing:can u boot a live cd ?
[15:22] <guntbert> rocko: so if you want permissions, that are already set - what should it do :-)
[15:22] <deep_blue> can ubuntu be installed in a pc where there is only usb flash  drive, no HD,CD/DVD, etc.?
[15:22] <Ziroday> nedwell: try smb://ipaddressofsambaserver
[15:22] <Redwing> alraune: It's booting just now. It's only a 1.2Ghz so takes a while, bear with me ;)
[15:22] <Ziroday> nedwell: and see what it shows up
[15:23] <Ziroday> deep_blue: yes
[15:23] <snarkster> i need a solution to remove all kde 3.5.9 and kde 4.1 and gnome stuff from my computer.
[15:23] <snarkster>  i would like to restart the install of kde 4.1 from the ppa site
[15:23] <alraune>  Redwing:cool, sitting on a different machine is always good for troubleshooting...
[15:23] <Ax-Ax> :(
[15:23] <rocko> guntbert: how come when i do ls -l it says 670
[15:23] <deep_blue> Ziroday: wow.........i've only started using ubuntu yesterday.....played it with 2/3 hours and I'm in love with it
[15:23] <teo_dim> hi
[15:23] <alraune> lo
[15:23] <nedwell> ziroday: where do I type that?  I tried FireFox, but it asked me to save a file '2' (i think that's wrong?)
[15:24] <snarkster> deep_blue: most people are
[15:24] <ganymede> how can i tell what version of a package is available in the repos? i looked on packages.ubuntu.com for kde4 and the version for the metapackage is 3.3, but there is no such version of kde4
[15:24] <Ziroday> snarkster: add the ppa repos, and kde4.1 will update automatically
[15:24] <Ziroday> nedwell: in nautilus (the file managers) address bar
[15:24] <snarkster> Ziroday: I already have the stuff installed and te repos are already added.. but there are things that arent working so I wanted to start over again
[15:24] <Redwing> alraune, wols_: Live CD waiting for it to load the terminal
[15:24] <MikeSeth> tonisius: so? did it work?
[15:24] <Redwing> Live CD booted*
[15:24] <Ziroday> nedwell: if you dont see it press the icon to the left with pen on the paper
[15:25] <bytecode> deep_blue, snarkster : I'd like to confess that I'm an "unbuntu lover"
[15:25] <kuroryuu> snarkster: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs kdelibs5 libgnome2-0 && sudo apt-get autoremove should do it
[15:25] <alraune>  Redwing:sitting on live now ?
[15:25] <Ziroday> snarkster: so you want to reinstall?
[15:25] <Redwing> yup
[15:25] <guntbert> rocko: I dont see numerical permissions with ls -l
[15:25] <bytecode> deep_blue, snarkster: but then, I have been for the last few years :-D    byte <3 *bunty.
[15:25] <nedwell> ziroday: oh!  ok.  i tried it.  the gnome foot's toes keep moving and then they stop after ten seconds(?) and nothing is there.
[15:25] <deep_blue> one more thing.......can usb flash drive (pendrive) works similarly as HD, I mean in the Live CD if I make any changes and the next time when I start my pc everything gets back to scratch as nothing has happened?
[15:25] <pos69sum> i use an /etc/hosts entry to fool my server into thinking that a host at one ip ihas a different hostname
[15:25] <MikeSeth> guntbert: then there's a wrong alias in your shell
[15:26] <Redwing> alraune: it's thrashing my drive like mad. I imagine because of the lack of RAM
[15:26] <alraune>  Redwing:Terminal:       sudo -i           ,become root
[15:26] <Ziroday> nedwell: are you sure you have setup samba on the server correctly?
[15:26] <pos69sum> this doesn't seem to be woriking on one machine - is there anything else that affects name resolution?
[15:26] <guntbert> MikeSeth: its not my problem, trying to help rocko
[15:26] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[15:26] <RainCT> ganymede: look at package kdebase
[15:26] <Redwing> done
[15:27] <Redwing> Does the Live CD have an IRC Client?
[15:27] <alraune>  Redwing:Terminal:   apt-get install hwinfo && apt-get install pastebinit  && hwinfo > pc.txt     &&  pastebinit pc.txt
[15:27] <kuroryuu> deep_blue: the problem with having everything on a flashdrive is that they have limited lifetimes if you write to them constantly, better to have another medium to store filesystems that will be more active
[15:27] <Ziroday> Redwing: yes, its in pidgin
[15:27] <nedwell> ziroday: how can I check?  I enabled sharing, it said it had to download files, and then I set up folders to share and they show sharing icons now.
[15:27] <rocko> guntbert: i just can't get over this http://paste.ubuntu.com/37158/
[15:28] <Ziroday> nedwell: on the server try smb://localhost in nautilus
[15:28] <Ax-Ax> i don't want o be annoying, but i have a very serious problem - is there any overview of recomended permissions for a working filesystem?
[15:28] <alraune>  Redwing:ups, thought you were in pidgin live, connect first
[15:28] <alraune>  Redwing:Terminal:  you can copy n paste pidgin>terminal
[15:28] <bullgard4> MikeSeth: xev works. But is tedious.
[15:28] <nedwell> ziroday: all shares I was expecting to see are visible from localhost.
[15:28] <snarkster> ok ill bbl as I have the information i need to remove everything and start over.
[15:29] <snarkster> wish me luck
[15:29] <triggerhapp> gl
[15:29] <MikeSeth> bullgard4: maybe see documentation for tpb package
[15:29] <Ziroday> nedwell: okay, then its likely just the client being finicky
[15:29] <RainCT> Ax-Ax: you've done chmod ..... -R / or what?
[15:29] <Ziroday> nedwell: is the server on a static or dynamic ip?
[15:29] <deep_blue> kuroryuu, will not be using it as constantly in pendrive, but wanted to know if I make any changes will it get saved or not......since in Live CD everytime I start it, it starts from scratch....
[15:29] <nedwell> ziroday: static (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[15:29] <guntbert> rocko: try stat /home/rocko/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[15:29] <Redwing> I've run the command you gave and it says it couldn't find the package hwinfo
[15:29] <MikeSeth> RainCT: O_O
[15:30] <Ax-Ax> RainCT: yeah
[15:30] <jersson> hola
[15:30] <alraune>  Redwing:Terminal:    apt-get install pastebinit  && lspci > pc.txt     &&  pastebinit pc.txt
[15:30] <deep_blue> kuroryuu.......will be using pendrive as a backup option so that I can work on different pc
[15:30] <alraune>  Redwing:worked ? gimme url from terminal
[15:31] <Ziroday> nedwell: can you ping it from your client?
[15:31] <db92> no sound in anything i do through firefox. any clues?
[15:31] <Ax-Ax> RainCT: 16:22:26 <Ax-Ax> i accidentally did chmod my whole filesystem to something, and after that everything broke. there was a "can't cd to /home/axel" error on start, and everything complained about bad permissions, dbus didn't load and so on. is there any list or recomendations or something of what the permissions should be like?
[15:31] <summatusmentis> I installed Ubuntu via VMWare server last night, and tried to install GRUB to the root of the HD (trying to dual boot a tablet pc with windows/ubuntu), but GRUB didn't install, thoughts?
[15:31] <rocko> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37160/
[15:31] <fauzi1> is there a nice gui frontend for PPPoE dialing?
[15:31] <Redwing> Couldn't find package pastebinit
[15:31] <prince_jammys> Ax-Ax: you did it recursively?
[15:31] <alraune> db92: sound mainly (mp3..) works ?
[15:32] <triggerhapp> summatusmentis: You installed it in Vmware?
[15:32] <nedwell> ziroday: I can ping from client to server and from server to client OK
[15:32] <Ax-Ax> prince_jammys: yeah :(
[15:32] <triggerhapp> summatusmentis: That generally means it doesnt change the hark disks partitions
[15:32] <summatusmentis> triggerhapp: I used VMWare server to install it, onto a partition
[15:32] <RainCT> Ax-Ax: that really is a problem then.. reinstalling all packages might help.. for your home directory you could try with 664 (but some directories/files, like for example SSH stuff, weill need different permissions)
[15:32] <db92> alraune, as metnioned, no sound THROUGH FIREFOX :P the rest seem to be working pretty flawlessly
[15:32]  * MikeSeth pokes tonisius
[15:32] <MikeSeth> db92: flash?
[15:32] <triggerhapp> summatusmentis: OH, server, mymisread, sorry
[15:32] <Redwing_LiveCD> Hiya, think I finally got this working :P
[15:32] <Ziroday> nedwell: try installing the program sshfs
[15:33] <prince_jammys> Ax-Ax: i'd backup my /home and reinstall
[15:33] <db92> MikeSeth, flash through firefox doesnt work, saved flvs work pretty well
[15:33] <summatusmentis> triggerhapp: it seems to have installed ok, I just can't get GRUB to install, or work
[15:33] <unavailable> i want to implement this   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXYLdZEf2c
[15:33] <unavailable> how to?
[15:33] <MikeSeth> db92: close any other software that uses sound and try again
[15:33] <Redwing_LiveCD> wols_: I've run the fdisk -l command like you said and it showed me 3 partitions and ext3 partition, a swap partition and an extended partition
[15:33] <summatusmentis> triggerhapp: and there's no CD drive, and I can't boot from USB
[15:33] <nedwell> ziroday: on the client or the server?
[15:33] <Ziroday> nedwell: and then from the command line mkdir ~/.sshfs && sshfs user@host ~/.sshfs
[15:33] <Ziroday> nedwell: on the client
[15:33] <dexter> hey can anyone tell me where can i get the apt sources for the websters dictionary so that i can download it??
[15:33] <db92> MikeSeth, been there done that
[15:34] <triggerhapp> hehehe, im lost tbh summatusmentis
[15:34] <guntbert> rocko: so you see, permissions are just right, 671 was the size of the file. I'm sorry I can't help you further with the ssh -problem
[15:34] <unavailable> anyone?
[15:34] <unavailable> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXYLdZEf2c
[15:34] <alraune> db92: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras && apt-get install flashsupport
[15:34] <rocko> guntbert: oh ok thanks
[15:34] <db92> alraune, flashsupport wants to uninstall my oss
[15:34] <Ax-Ax> prince_jammys: i thought about that, but i thought it would be nicer to just change back, but if that's too hard, i maybe should reinstall :(:(
[15:35] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD:found ya
[15:35] <Redwing_LiveCD> =)
[15:35] <RainCT> alraune: ubuntu-restricted-extras already installs flashplugin-nonfree :)
[15:35] <dexter> hey can anyone tell me where can i get the apt sources for the websters dictionary so that i can download it??
[15:35] <pulsetsar> can anyone here help me with a samba problem?
[15:35] <unavailable> true multiple desktops  anyone know now to mess with nautilus to get this result ?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXYLdZEf2c
[15:35] <prince_jammys> apt-get package1 package2 package3
[15:35] <guntbert> rocko: np
[15:35] <alraune> db92: uninstall os? ?
[15:35] <Ax-Ax> RainCT: dbus fails, then networkmanager fails, so i can't reinstall
[15:35] <RainCT> !ask | pulsetsar
[15:35] <prince_jammys> *install :P
[15:35] <alraune> RainCT: thx
[15:35] <deep_blue> has anyone used xampp linux in ubuntu?
[15:36] <RainCT> deep_blue: me, but there's not much point for using it
[15:36] <prince_jammys> Ax-Ax: after some work you can get a working system, but you'll have a bunch of files lying around with the wrong perms.
[15:36] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD:url from pastebinit ?
[15:36] <unavailable> true multiple desktops  anyone know now to mess with nautilus to get this result ?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXYLdZEf2c
[15:36] <pulsetsar> RainGT: wasn't sure if this was really the right place to ask but #samba is dead
[15:36] <triggerhapp> unavailable: Read the comments and you'll notice it was only a demonstration, not a real model
[15:36] <deep_blue> rainCT...why?....
[15:36] <Redwing_LiveCD> It keeps telling me that the pastebinit package cannot be found
[15:36] <guntbert> MikeSeth: just out of curiosity: how do you display *numerical* permissions with ls?
[15:36] <unavailable> triggerhapp
[15:36] <pulsetsar> my vista box can't see my ubuntu lappy and I have no idea why
[15:36] <unavailable> triggerhapp I know
[15:36] <unavailable> triggerhapp but i want to know if anyone CAN code this
[15:36] <RainCT> deep_blue: installing it properly is really easy on Ubuntu, and XAMPP for Linux was pretty slow on Ubuntu for some reason
[15:36] <triggerhapp> unavailable: Im sure theyre taking patches tho :)
[15:37] <db92> alraune, no? :P
[15:37] <deep_blue> I tried installing LAMP but it didn't worked out.......there is a bug I guess....
[15:37] <db92> alraune, its the only thing that gives me generallly working sound :p
[15:37] <pulsetsar> is anyone else folder sharing between ubuntu and vista?
[15:37] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: lspci >pc.txt
[15:37] <db92> alsa-incompat sound card
[15:37] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: gedit pc.txt
[15:37] <unavailable> true multiple desktops  anyone know now to mess with nautilus to get this result ?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXYLdZEf2c (i know this is only a concept video)
[15:37] <Ziroday> unavailable: currently that feature is not avaiable, you can ask gnome dev's in #gnome on irc.gnome.org
[15:37] <deep_blue> rainCT: did you used LAMP?
[15:37] <alraune> !paste> Redwing_LiveCD
[15:38] <RainCT> deep_blue: have you done:  sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5  ?
[15:38] <Ax-Ax> i maybe should reinstall then :( (and maybe do a dual-boot with some other interesting os ;) )
[15:38] <deep_blue> no not that command
[15:38] <Redwing_LiveCD> Just waiting for my home folder to load
[15:38] <bullgard4> MikeSeth: I was considering to install tpb before. But some guru discouraged me from doing so.  --  The file /usr/share/hotkey-setup/ibm.hk includes 8 lines " Canonical mapping, commented out." I do not understand them, and so I did not install tpb yet.
[15:38] <Ax-Ax> bye
[15:38] <beni_f_> asd
[15:38] <deep_blue> i used some taskel command
[15:38] <alraune> db92:what did you mean with :wants to uninstall my os ?
[15:39] <alraune> !who|Redwing_LiveCD
[15:39] <RainCT> deep_blue: installing that should get you Apache with PHP running. If you want MySQL also install mysql-server mysql-client php5-mysql
[15:39] <deep_blue> rainCT: will that command also installs mysql?
[15:39] <db92> alraune, i didnt say it wants to uninstall my os
[15:39] <RainCT> deep_blue: installing that should get you Apache with PHP running. If you want MySQL also install mysql-server mysql-client php5-mysql
[15:39] <deep_blue> rainCT: thanks....
[15:39] <db92> alraune, i said it wants to uninstall oss :|||||||
[15:39] <triggerhapp> db92: All your open source? :O
[15:39] <RainCT> deep_blue: you'll be surprised how easy it is :)
[15:40] <alraune> db92:alsa <>oss, now got u, are u using oss ?
[15:40] <Redwing_LiveCD> Ok I have the information alraune
[15:40] <dexter> hey can anyone tell me where can i get the apt sources for the websters dictionary so that i can download it??
[15:40] <alraune> !paste> Redwing_LiveCD
[15:40] <aja1> hi, anyone uses gnuplot befoire?
[15:40] <Redwing_LiveCD> !paste > Redwing_LiveCD
[15:41] <shah> !paste > shah
[15:41] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: the url from pasting ?
[15:41] <dexter> hey can anyone tell me where can i get the apt sources for the websters dictionary so that i can download it??
[15:41] <Redwing_LiveCD> I'm loading Firefox, hold on
[15:42] <db92> alraune, ye
[15:42] <db92> alraune, alsa doesnt support my card, only oss has support for it, early beta though it may be, it still works :p
[15:42] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: :)
[15:42] <deep_blue> rainCT: how to get phpmyadmin installed? when I try to install it, it says can't find phpmyadmin package
[15:42] <dexter> hey can anyone tell me where can i get the apt sources for the websters dictionary so that i can download it??
[15:42] <the_darkside_986> is it possible to configure an alternative DNS server on my local machine only? I'm using Ubuntu Hardy. I don't want to mess up our internet router.
[15:42] <Ziroday> dexter: why do you need the websters dictionary?
[15:42] <Redwing_LiveCD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37164/
[15:43] <shah> !patience
[15:43] <Ziroday> the_darkside_986: of course you can, not that I know how
[15:43] <alraune> is there a problem using oss with flashsupport ?
[15:43] <dexter> Ziroday; i m preparing for my gre... so i need it on my system...i dont want the online thing.....
[15:43] <RainCT> deep_blue: enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[15:43] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks. anyone know where DNS options could be in Ubuntu 8.04?
[15:43] <nDuff> the_darkside_986, you want to run *your own* DNS server?
[15:43] <Ziroday> dexter: any reason websters, and not some other dictionary app?
[15:43] <the_darkside_986> no
[15:44] <alraune> !who|Redwing_LiveCD:
[15:44] <kindofabuzz> rkhunter or chkrootkit?
[15:44] <the_darkside_986> I want to try using an alternative DNS server because the one Embarq gave us seems to be crappy right now.
[15:44] <nDuff> the_darkside_986, install bind, configure appropriately, edit /etc/resolv.conf to refer to it
[15:44] <deep_blue> rainCT: ok, but what is that.....can you point me to a link?
[15:44] <db92> alraune, simply enough installing libflashsupport tries to uninstall oss
[15:44] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks
[15:44] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37164/
[15:44] <nDuff> the_darkside_986, ...or if you don't want to actually your own, just tweak /etc/resolv.conf
[15:44] <RainCT> deep_blue: your /etc/apt/sources.list should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37166/plain/
[15:44] <dexter> Ziroday; websters is more recommended...thats y.....i wanted 2 learn US english well
[15:44] <db92> alraune, and still, i have found the proper .so modules for firefox that work with oss, but still refuses to play sound :||
[15:44] <nDuff> the_darkside_986, s/actually your own/actually run your own/
[15:45] <the_darkside_986> i see. thanks.
[15:45] <hosk> join #xnest
[15:45] <RainCT> deep_blue: (if you don't want to touch the file you can also enable it from System -> Administration -> Software Sources, which will do the same)
[15:45] <Sinnerman> i have a rather serious problem here. installed ubuntu amd64 hardy, with a radeon x1950. went to hardware manager, and chose to enable the restricted drivers, and that got me xorg-xserver-fglrx. however, after reboot i get several different versions of the same corruption and a complete system lockup, except for the first two times where the system rebooted itself. i get corrupt graphics, i get a gdm splash the correct colour then corrupted graphics,
[15:46] <Sinnerman>  with or without cursor occasionally. has anyone encountered this before and is there a fix?
[15:46] <W9ZEB> does anyone know if Gnomad2 can interface with Rhythmbox
[15:46] <hypnojazz> hello
[15:46] <Ziroday> dexter: okay, I doubt you can install websters dictionary in ubuntu, however look at the program kdict
[15:46] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: HW should be no problem, most prbly u're riding an athlon cpu, so lets get this hd thing checked
[15:46] <Vegombrei> what is xorg ?
[15:47] <RainCT> Sinnerman: you can go to a terminal by pressing Ctrl + Alt + F1 and change the driver from there
[15:47] <alraune> db92: no further ideas at the mom, may little later concerning alsa and your sound-card
[15:47] <DM|> anyone get their zune working?
[15:47] <RainCT> Sinnerman: (it's specified in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[15:47] <Sinnerman> RainCT: no i can't, the system's completely frozen.
[15:47] <Prose> via ssh, I can't connect to http://localhost:631/ while yesterday I could :(
[15:47] <db92> alraune, kk
[15:48] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: Yeah it's a Duron, 1.2Ghz. I've run fdisk -l as wols_ suggested. That displayed 3 Partitions. 1 Primary Partition of 39.4Gb 1 Swap partition of 600Mb and 1 Extended partition of a single cylinder
[15:48] <RainCT> Sinnerman: didn't you say that you get a GDM screen?
[15:48] <Ziroday> Prose: is the ssh server running?
[15:48] <dexter> Ziroday; is it same as the websters...do u have suggestions 4 any other dictionary
[15:48] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: sudo gparted
[15:48] <Prose> Ziroday: I can ssh into it perfectly
[15:48] <Sinnerman> RainCT: but what is causing it to freeze like this? yes i get a flash of the gdm screen, _then_ it freezes or gives me the corruption.
[15:48] <neonDragon2> My Ubuntu was working correctly but now when booting it hangs at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)". Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[15:48] <Prose> Ziroday: I just can't Lynx or Elinks into Cups config !
[15:48] <zoidfarb> When I import photos from a digital camera with f-stop it creates duplicates every time I import. Does anyone know how to fix this problem + remove the duplicate images?
[15:48] <Ziroday> dexter: there are a large amount in the repos, as well english tutoring programs. search for them with synaptic
[15:48] <hosk> how can i start an xnest session remotely then start fluxbox on it?
[15:49] <RainCT> Sinnerman: oh, you'll have to boot up with a live CD then and use chroot to modify the file from there
[15:49] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: I have a similar problem on ATI x300 with games. Examine the xorg log. Overheating is the prime suspect.
[15:49] <hosk> assuming i have both xnest and fluxbox
[15:49] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: That's open now
[15:49] <alraune> neonDragon2: check that file
[15:49] <Ziroday> Prose: sorry, to understand better you can ssh just fine. But you cant run a terminal browser?
[15:49] <neonDragon2> it's just got comments and exit 0
[15:49] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: delete any partitions
[15:49] <Sinnerman> RainCT: i have the alternate install cd. :( that still does not tell me _what_ the problem is though, and what im trying to fix.
[15:49] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: in general fglrx isnt very friendly for x series
[15:50] <Sinnerman> MikeSeth: it cant be overheating, i have two chassis fans, and a huge fan on the ati card.
[15:50] <Ziroday> Prose: to access the cups web interface?
[15:50] <Redwing_LiveCD> IT won't let me delete the Extended partition that contains the swap drive
[15:50] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: oh its not a laptop?
[15:50] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: IT won't let me delete the Extended partition that contains the swap drive
[15:50] <Prose> Ziroday: exactly, via ssh, while controlling the terminal on the server machine, Lynx and Elinks can't open http://localhost:631/
[15:50] <RainCT> Redwing_LiveCD: if you are on a Live CD, it will be using the SWAP partition so you can't delete it from there
[15:50] <zoidfarb> Does anyone know how to stop F-stop from creating duplicate images when it imports?
[15:51] <Sinnerman> MikeSeth: no it's not a laptop, it's a radeon x1950 pro on a core 2 quad running ubuntu hardy amd64.
[15:51] <Ziroday> Prose: why are you sshing into your own machine?
[15:51] <Redwing_LiveCD> Ahh ok =)
[15:51] <deep_blue> rainCT: sorry for the dc.......due to rainy season connection is unpredictable here
[15:51] <RainCT> deep_blue: got it?
[15:51] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: Primary partition is now deleted
[15:51] <Sinnerman> so does anyone know what may be causing the problem?
[15:51] <Sinnerman> or come across something similar.
[15:51] <Ziroday> Prose: and also lynx is probably working just fine, the issue is with the cups web interface
[15:51] <zoidfarb> Er, rather, F-spot, not f-stop
[15:51] <RainCT> deep_blue: lol we bot spoke at the same time.   no problem :)
[15:51] <Prose> Ziroday: it's a headless server I'm sshing into..
[15:52] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: either way, the first stop would be xorg logs and dmesg
[15:52] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: delete any partitions
[15:52] <Prose> Ziroday: oh damn me!! I just remembered, I rebooted the thing and I think iptables are screwed
[15:52] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: I've deleted all the partitions that it will allow me to delete
[15:52] <Sinnerman> MikeSeth: i cant get to either, the system freezes or reboots.
[15:52] <Ziroday> Prose: possibly
[15:53] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: maybe gotta hang out swap first (decrease of speed if little ram)
[15:53] <deep_blue> rainCT: thanks for all the info. where does public_html gets store and how can I access phpmyadmin?
[15:53] <Prose> Ziroday: yes! there we go, iptables were pretty strict, not it works ! sorry there! thanks for moral support :P :)
[15:53] <Prose> now*
[15:53] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: the log still gets written
[15:53] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: (at least it does for me)
[15:53] <Ziroday> Prose: anytime :), have fun
[15:53] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: besides you may be able to log into the box from the outside - usually its the keyboard/display that freezes
[15:53] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: What do yo8u mean by hang out?
[15:53] <Redwing_LiveCD> you*
[15:53] <Sinnerman> ok, MikeSeth i just rebooted with init=/bin/bash there is nothing in the logs. no EE.
[15:54] <RainCT> deep_blue: http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[15:54] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: hmmm.. check the .log.0 file as well
[15:54] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: if swap is marked as mounted, unmount it (right-click on it) ;;;  if youre lucky, u got at least 300 MB ram (can see it at boot)
[15:54] <djewb> Is there a way to reinstall pidgin?? i have been having errors here is what i get when i try to run from terminal if some one could help me with this i would be vary thankfull :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/37169/
[15:55] <Sinnerman> MikeSeth: that's what i just checked.
[15:55] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: No I can't unmount
[15:55] <MikeSeth> Sinnerman: then it's lspci -vv and a lot of googling :<
[15:55] <RainCT> deep_blue: by default it reads the files from /var/www, but you can either rm that directory and symlink some other one to it or change the apache configuration to look somewhere else (if you prefer that approach tell me and I'll explain you how to do it)
[15:55] <alec> i had some questions about using an ipod in ubuntu. the ipod has been formatted for mac. how do i reformat? also can i crack the ipod to run on opensource software?
[15:55] <MikeSeth> djewb: I suggest you run memory tests on your machine, this should not be happening
[15:55] <mattheas> is there a plugin for xchat to show the users pane?
[15:56] <Ape3000> My Intrepid just failed very badly! Suddenly GDM crashed and I tried to reboot. After that GDM never started again. I can't even login on the terminal using my default user.. It says: Unable to cd to /home/ape/. The user should have all rights to it and I can browse it with the root terminal. When I try to 'su ape' it says: Cannot excecute /bin/bash: Permission Denied. Again the user seems to have the x-rights to that..
[15:56] <djewb> MikeSeth,  any recommended software to do so it just started happening last night and pidgin is only thing it dose this on
[15:56] <bullgard4> What does mean: "# Canonical mapping, commented out." in //usr/share/hotkey-setup/ibm.hk?
[15:56] <Sinnerman> MikeSeth: people have told me they had no problems with this card, so i dont know what could have gone wrong. the dmesg.0 log has nothing in it either. everything to do with fglrx says it loaded fine.
[15:57] <hosk> i figured it out, Xnest :3 -ac -name Fluxbox & fluxbox -display :3
[15:57] <deep_blue> rainCT: actually I want to keep my files separately (in another partition, if possible) as it becomes easily accessible and safter
[15:58] <shah> can we browse internet from terminal? just text no images.. is this possible?
[15:58] <Ape3000> shah: try links or lynx
[15:58] <magnetron> shah, yes. i would recommend links2
[15:58] <magnetron> shah, or maybe elinks
[15:58] <Sinnerman> so anyone else come across this white/screen/freeze with ATI cards at the gdm screen, with corruption, and know how to fix it or what's going wrong?
[15:59] <guntbert> shah: I use w3m
[15:59] <djewb> MikeSeth, ??
[16:00] <Ape3000> But anybody know anything about my problem, I just posted?
[16:00] <pawel> could you help me? I can't set the static IP to my wireless
[16:00] <RainCT> deep_blue: yes you can do this with the symlink (sudo mv /var/www /var/www.orig; sudo ln -s /media/.... /var/www, or just placing the symlink into /var/www and then doing http://localhost/synlinkname)
[16:00] <LogicalDash> My SDcard has recently been failing to mount automatically. Could someone please help me troubleshoot this?
[16:00] <cypherdelic> How to run a command BEFORE XSerer inititialises?
[16:01] <alec> im thinking about installing ipodlinux, has anyone done this? i need advice.
[16:01] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: is there free(unallocated) space at the beginning of the hd ?
[16:01] <cypherdelic> How to run a command BEFORE XSerer inititialises?
[16:01] <cypherdelic> +v
[16:01] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: Yes
[16:02] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: swap is called /dev/sdXX, sda2 ?
[16:02] <Redwing_LiveCD> /dev/sda5
[16:03] <LogicalDash> cypherdelic: I seem to recall that there's some profile script that's executed at the very first login, don't remember what it's called though
[16:03] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: k, close gparted
[16:03] <Redwing_LiveCD> Done
[16:03] <deep_blue> rainCT: thanks ones again.......do you know any good replacement for photoshop, dreamweaver and ftp client for ubuntu?
[16:03] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: Done
[16:03] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCD: terminal as root: umount /dev/sda5
[16:03] <LogicalDash> deep_blue: for Photoshop there's The GIMP, for ftp there's gFTP
[16:04] <RainCT> deep_blue: Photoshop -> The GIMP, FTP -> gFTP or FileZilla (not sure how good it already is, the port started some months ago)
[16:04] <deep_blue> LogicalDash: wow.....there is everything in ubuntu ......i was not expecting if there was some........great
[16:04] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune:  umount: /dev/sda5: not mounted
[16:05] <daveisadork1> are there any iptables gurus hanging around today?
[16:05] <RainCT> deep_blue: for Dreamweaver see http://www.osalt.com/dreamweaver, but I don't think that the programs listed there are as good as it
[16:05] <joaopinto> Nautilis also supports FTP
[16:05] <RainCT> deep_blue: I told you it's easier as you think :)
[16:06] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCd: exept from the masterbootrecord these are good signs for installation, use the alternate cd...
[16:06] <shadowhywind> hay all having some MAJOR issues at the moment.. first issue.. is there a correct way to run fsck on ubuntu parition other then fsck /dev/sda#
[16:07] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: The alternate disk will still install the GDM right?
[16:07] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCd: check the bios for correct HD_Detection, disable any virusprotection
[16:07] <djewb> Hmm seems my problem was because i set a network proxy ty for trying to help MikeSeth
[16:07] <deep_blue> rainCT:so there is no good substitute for dreamweaver......:-(
[16:08] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCd: by befault, yes: Kubuntu = kde ubuntu = gdm  xubuntu=xfce, but can change later, anyway
[16:08] <ncls> got a question: Is there a way to disable the numpad on a laptop (macbook in this case) when it was turned on with an external keyboard? (i pressed the num key on the external one and then it was like i'd had activated it on the macbbook.
[16:08] <LogicalDash> deep_blue: a quick search of the repositories turns up KompoZer and Amaya as potential alternatives
[16:08] <Redwing_LiveCD> alraune: Ok then, thanks for your help. I'll go try again
[16:08] <candive> Hi all, how do I boot from USB its not an option in bios.please.
[16:08] <alraune> Redwing_LiveCd: once sys is running at all and you can install essential soft, much easier to help
[16:08] <jersson> hola alguien que me ayude
[16:09] <LogicalDash>  !es | jersson
[16:09] <jersson> no s eocmo entrar ahhi
[16:09] <alraune> db92:what a soundcard do u use ?
[16:09] <Guillaum3> any1 know how to make sorting in openoffice, keep the row attachment and not just sort the column itself.
[16:09] <db92> alraune, xfi :P
[16:10] <LogicalDash> jersson: entre "/join #ubuntu-es"
[16:10] <RainCT> deep_blue: well, try them out, perhaps some of those is OK for you
[16:10] <linuxkrn> hey guys, got a small problem with booting a dmraid.  I have successfully installed grub (it boots the initramfs and my XP partition) but for some reason the kernel isn't told it needs to continue running dmraid for the rest of the setup.  Checked the how-to but it appears for 7.10, any suggestions?
[16:10] <lollydays> is there a way I can force ubuntu to burn a 4.4gb file onto a DVD?
[16:10] <ncls> got a question: Is there a way to disable the numpad on a laptop (macbook in this case) when it was turned on with an external keyboard? (i pressed the num key on the external one and then it was like i'd had activated it on the macbbook.
[16:11] <Wulfie> hey folks, what mechanism does Hardy use to automatically mount cd/dvd's?
[16:11] <daedra> best way to listen to last.fm through terminal?
[16:11] <sidewalk> are there any moviemakers for linux?
[16:11] <Guillaum3> any1 know how to make sorting in openoffice, keep the row attachment and not just sort the column itself.
[16:11] <Guillaum3> in "Calc"
[16:12] <candive> chow
[16:12] <Redwing> alraune: It's proceeding with the install now. Thanks for your help =)
[16:12] <lollydays> sidewalk, yes, there
[16:12] <lollydays> is an ubuntu distro specifically for multimedia productino
[16:12] <alraune> db92:mom, looking it up
[16:12] <jersson> hola a todos
[16:12] <jersson> alguien que me ayude en español
[16:12] <RainCT> !es > jersson
[16:13] <wols_> Wulfie: gnome-volume-manager
[16:14] <Wulfie> wols_: thanks much
[16:14] <DM|> !es | Jersson
[16:14] <deep_blue> rainCT: thank you very much........in the rainy season I got the rain+CT :-)
[16:14] <lollydays> anyone know how to overburn?
[16:14] <ncls> got a question: Is there a way to disable the numpad on a laptop (macbook in this case) when it was turned on with an external keyboard? (i pressed the num key on the external one and then it was like i'd had activated it on the macbbook.
[16:14] <RainCT> deep_blue: hehe  you're welcome :)
[16:14] <jersson> nada mas diganme como instalar un programa
[16:15] <partisan11> KDE gurus--I just started using Kate text editor (it's the default for Krusader). Is there a way to get Kate to appear *without* the tree pane always open when I double click on a text file?
[16:15] <sidewalk> lollydays: what application do you recommend for editing movies, i want something like microsofts movie maker
[16:15] <deep_blue> i will test all those things in pendrive......hope 2GB is enought
[16:15] <Redwing> ncls: On PC Laptops it's usually FN + Scroll Lock
[16:15] <RainCT> jersson: Sistema -> Administración -> Gestor de paquetes Synaptic
[16:15] <LogicalDash> hola jersson, porfa escriba de teclado "/join #ubuntu-es" a encontrar ayuda
[16:15] <RainCT> jersson: pero para ayuda en castellano ves a #ubuntu-es - pues entrar escriviendo  /join #ubuntu-es
[16:15] <lollydays> sidewalk: i've heard Kino is pretty good, but I haven't used it
[16:15] <alraune> db92:couldn't find it in HW-Liste, any way, did you build the alsa module ? as it works with oss, alsa should do, too
[16:16] <bullgard4> What does mean: "# Canonical mapping, commented out." in /usr/share/hotkey-setup/ibm.hk?
[16:16] <LogicalDash> My SDcard has stopped automounting for no apparent reason. Could someone help me to figure out why?
[16:16] <db92> alraune, no it just doesnt
[16:16] <lollydays> sidewalk: ubuntu studio comes packaged with kino
[16:16] <db92> alraune, i dont know much about sound in ubuntu etc, but it just doesnt work with alsa
[16:16] <db92> alraune, didnt manage with alsa oss either :P
[16:17] <db92> i mean aoss, alsa-oss package :p
[16:17] <alraune> db92:then possibly a too modern HW, if I sat in front of that, could try a lot, humm- get a cheap working SC, lol
[16:17] <db92> although i can manage to make sound work somewhat crappily using heavily modified xfi drivers on custom kernel, oss just always works better :p
[16:17] <db92> alraune, :\\\\\\\\\\\
[16:17] <db92> alraune, too modern hw of 3 years age, agreed
[16:18] <ptitezoe_64> ydry
[16:18] <Prose> what's the correct way to use iptables-save ??? I can't figure out (and make it work)
[16:18] <ptitezoe_64> kikou
[16:18] <ptitezoe_64> sa va ?
[16:18] <ptitezoe_64> i am french
[16:18] <db92> le franse dans #ubuntu-fr sil vou ple :PPP
[16:18] <Prose> ow du francais
[16:18] <alraune> db92:3 years ? try alsa, see my pm
[16:19] <sidewalk> ste, any way, did you build
[16:19] <sidewalk>  the alsa module ? as it works with oss, alsa should do, too
[16:19] <sidewalk> *** |XO|<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined
[16:19] <sidewalk>  channel #ubuntu
[16:19] <sidewalk> *** Signoff: jersson (Client Quit)
[16:19] <FloodBot1> sidewalk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:19] <Prose> hahaha !
[16:19] <sidewalk> wops
[16:19] <ncls> do you guys know any other channel besides this one, where I can get help? nobody is answering me here
[16:19] <Prose> ncls: whats the problem ??
[16:19] <ptitezoe_64> and you ??
[16:19] <oakgrove> french fries are my favorite
[16:19] <mattheas> I downloaded and installed compiz fusion on Ubuntu 8.04 and it's not working
[16:19] <mattheas> is there something else I need to know to install?
[16:19] <ncls> -- Is there a way to disable the numpad on a laptop (macbook in this case) when it was turned on with an external keyboard? (i pressed the num key on the external one and then it was like i'd had activated it on the macbbook.
[16:19] <ptitezoe_64> fries ???
[16:19] <LogicalDash> mattheas, you have to enable it in System->Preferences->Appearance
[16:19] <ice_cream> yea, i know how you feel, ncls =D  i often ask, what... "difficult" questions? =p
[16:20] <ptitezoe_64> do you spik french ???
[16:20] <mattheas> Where? Because I go to Visual Effects and check extra and nothing out of the ordinary happens
[16:20] <Prose> ncls:  why do you want to disable the numpad ?
[16:20] <LogicalDash> mattheas: Try moving a window, does it wobble?
[16:20] <Prose> je parle la francaise
[16:20] <mattheas> Yes
[16:20] <ptitezoe_64> super
[16:21] <mattheas> but I don't have my rotating cube
[16:21] <lollydays> anyone know how to enable overburn?
[16:21] <deep_blue> this can be a silly question, since I'm not a linux user until yesterday when I was referred to use Uunbunt......which "partition file system" does Ubuntu use?
[16:21] <ptitezoe_64> tu habite ou ????
[16:21] <LogicalDash> mattheas: In order to get the cube you need to install an extra Compiz configuration utility, there are a couple that work
[16:21] <ncls> Prose: do you own a notebook? everything besides the numpad (which is placed on the iop,jkl etc keys
[16:21] <Redwing> deep_blue: ext3
[16:21] <lollydays> deep_blue: ext3
[16:21] <ncls> is not working*
[16:21] <lollydays> damn, you beat me
[16:21] <mattheas> Do you happen to know the names of them?
[16:21] <Prose> mattheas: try holding down the windows button and tapping Tab in the same time . Also, hold down the windows button on the keyboard and tap e.
[16:21] <powergoal2> deep_blue: defaults to ext3, but is capable of using many more
[16:21] <ice_cream> ext3 is not the only answer
[16:21] <fulhack> Hey guys.. where does ubuntu store its xorg config? /etx/X11/xorg.conf seems a bit... sparse.
[16:21] <xnv> lollydays: Depends on the application you're burning with, no?
[16:21] <mattheas> holy crap
[16:21] <Prose> ncls: im on one as we speak
[16:21] <agent> how do i re-enable page-scroll in evince?
[16:22] <mattheas> Ok, so that works
[16:22] <ptitezoe_64> bay !!!!!!!!!!!
[16:22] <LogicalDash> fulhack: If you want to change your xorg config, try running gconf-editor
[16:22] <ncls> well see if there are numbers on some letter buttons
[16:22] <lollydays> xnv: i was just burning with nautilus
[16:22] <ptitezoe_64> *malpolis*
[16:22] <deep_blue> redwing, lollydays, powergoal2......thanks guys......but what is ext3.....i know FAT16, FAT32 and NTFS
[16:22] <mattheas> What are the names of the extra downloads I need?
[16:22] <fulhack> LogicalDash: Hm. Okay... Lots of new stuff for an old time user.. :P Thanks!
[16:22] <oakgrove> does anyone know how to move a window in gnome with the alt + mouse1 like you can in kde?
[16:22] <erUSUL> fulhack: latest xrog servers does autoconfigure for most things so the xorg.conf file can be obsoleted on the future
[16:22] <powergoal2> ext3 | deep_blue
[16:23] <Radit> when playing videos from youtube using firefox, mplayer, rhytmbox refuses to play multimedia files, can anybody help?
[16:23] <powergoal2> !ext3 | deep_blue
[16:23] <Prose> ncls: I really don;t understand you :s sorry. You seem to have trouble getting what to work ?
[16:23] <ice_cream> what is the preferred method of package searching via cli?
[16:23] <erUSUL> ice_cream: apt-cache search
[16:23]  * ice_cream prepares to criticize all responses =P
[16:23] <oakgrove> apt-cache search ice_cream
[16:23] <lollydays> deep_blue, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[16:23] <danbhfive> Radit: do you mean, you can't get them to work at the same time?
[16:23] <powergoal2> ice_cream: apt-cache search <criteria>
[16:23] <Prose> ncls: ny the way, for when you exasperate, there is awlays the ##linux channel
[16:23] <xnv> lollydays: http://www.google.com/search?name=f&hl=en&q=overburn+nautilus
[16:24] <deep_blue> I need to partition my USB pendrive (which I have never done in pendrive)..so i'm somewhat confused......how should i get it partition so that I can use ubuntu in it.......as well as a storage place for some windows files
[16:24] <Prose> ncls: or the #debian channel
[16:24] <powergoal2> deep_blue: are you in windows or linux?
[16:24] <lollydays> xnv, fine, make me look dumb :)
[16:24] <ice_cream> erUSUL, oakgrove, powergoal2  --  apt-cache search    searches the descriptions, too, and if i do --names-only then the output is very limited (unlike aptitude search w/ formatting) ..
[16:24] <DM|> deep_blue: use fat32 that way it can be read and write from both windows and linux
[16:24] <Quest_> any replacement for "knemo" . it shows live network trafic chart/graph ... ?
[16:24] <mattheas> LogicalDash: Do you know what the other downloads are called?
[16:24] <LogicalDash> mattheas: I recall that one is called compizconfig
[16:24] <deep_blue> i'm currently in windows xp.......which i have used through out my life.....
[16:25] <powergoal2> deep_blue: do you have something like partition magic?  or some other partitioning software?
[16:25] <deep_blue> but with ubuntu it seems now i need some change..........to open source.......which sounds exciting
[16:25] <xnv> lollydays: I do my best
[16:25] <user5432> it look slike im voting NO against Empathy being the default client for Ubuntu
[16:25] <Roconda> hey, where did firefoxrc moved to in firefox3.0 ?
[16:26] <Radit> danbhfive, yes; also if i want to play the multimedia file like videos or mp3s using mplayer or rhythmbox it does'nt play; i have to close firefox then open the mplayer or rhytmbox again; the situation is vice versa if i wanna view videos in firefox
[16:26] <deep_blue> powergoal2....no partition software.....the partition that i created for windows was using the windows xp bootable cd
[16:26] <danbhfive> Radit: yeah, I have the same problem.  I think its an issue with the sound system, pulse-audio
[16:26] <StoneNewt> betapi: just one tiny little problem with all that you're spouting the E5462 Haripes cost 517 each and you get 2 of them, a board that delivers you the same kind of expansion costs 325, 2GB of sutible ram is 90GBP,  sutible psu is about 130, chassis another 150 and oh look you're at 1730 you still need your 2600 XT, a HD etc..
[16:26] <mib_k18ntknl> any ubuntu kernel expert here?
[16:26] <fulhack> erUSUL: Oh. I see. Hm. Where is the proper place to configure a xinerama setup?
[16:26] <StoneNewt> sorry
[16:27] <danbhfive> Radit: don't know the fix though, I've been just living with it
[16:27] <powergoal2> deep_blue: yeah,  i don't know if windows ships with a partitioning program.  if you load up the ubuntu livecd you can format and repartition using cfdisk /dev/<address> to ext3 or something else permitting space for windows on there
[16:27] <erUSUL> fulhack: well for that i guess that you still have to use a full xorg.conf :|
[16:27] <deep_blue> what is the easiest option for me to get my pendrive partion....and which format --> FAT32?
[16:27] <Radit> danbhfive, so you have the problem too?
[16:27] <powergoal2> deep_blue: at the same time you could just go through the install stuff and then be able to do it through the installer.
[16:27] <danbhfive> Radit: yea
[16:28] <fulhack> erUSUL: But if I add things in xorg.conf they WILL be used? It just looks so empty.. I was worried there was a different file :)
[16:28] <ice_cream> that's what i thought.  =P
[16:28] <fulhack> For example, when I specify a resolution from within GNOME.. Where is that value stored?
[16:28] <powergoal2> deep_blue: they are good for different things
[16:28] <Radit> danbhfive: thanks 4 trying to help. i hope they fix this soon..
[16:28] <oiramuk> hi i have a problem with my network card. i am in monitor mode, and i need the card to stay on chanel 10 but it keeps surfing through 1-12 or something. how do i make my wireless card stay on channel 10?
[16:29] <shah> ?
[16:29] <Quest_> any replacement for "knemo" . it shows "live" network trafic "gui" chart/graph ... ?
[16:29] <danbhfive> Radit: im hoping the next version fixes it...  if it doesn't, ill start working the launchpad
[16:29] <linuxkrn> hey guys, got a small problem with booting a dmraid.  I have successfully installed grub (it boots the initramfs and my XP partition) but for some reason the kernel can't see the root dmraid for the rest of the boot.  Checked the how-to but it appears for 7.10, any suggestions?
[16:30] <andrer> i am trying to reinstall postgres (server) but it isn't creating the /etc/init.d file when I do a apt-get install --reinstall on it... How can i tell why this is happening
[16:30] <lollydays> xnv: i keep getting errors before nautilus even starts burning. Is there a better app for burning data?
[16:30] <oiramuk> hi i have a problem with my network card. i am in monitor mode, and i need the card to stay on chanel 10 but it keeps surfing through 1-12 or something. how do i make my wireless card stay on channel 10?
[16:30] <RainCT> Quest_: gnome-system-monitor has a simple graphic, if that's enough
[16:30] <Technoviking> Where can I add --indirect-rendering --loose-binding to compiz setting in Hardy?
[16:30] <powergoal2> Quest_: you can also get something like that with conky
[16:31] <powergoal2> !conky
[16:31] <danbhfive> oiramuk: I thought that you set the channel on the router, not the card.  The card will just scan all channels
[16:31] <lollydays> Quest_: i use conky and i love it
[16:31] <Quest_> RainCT iam using kde
[16:31] <oiramuk> danbhfive: yea but i thought i could set the card as well
[16:31] <powergoal2> Quest_: http://conky.sourceforge.net/conky.png as an example
[16:31] <Quest_> lollydays powergoal2 conky is a live graph?
[16:31] <Quest_> ok
[16:32] <deep_blue> powergoal2: can I get it partition with partition magic software or ubuntu partition commands. So will it be fine if I get 2 partition one with ext3 and one with fat32
[16:33] <lollydays> Quest_: and much more, i have it set up to show live graphs of my eth0, wlan0, harddrive space meter, ram meter, cpu temps, the works
[16:33] <powergoal2> deep_blue: right.  unless you want ntfs for you windows partition.  or reiserfs for your linux partition
[16:33] <Quest_> lollydays powergoal2 nice. i think ill like it
[16:34] <timz> i know it's really off-topic but i just need to know quick how to make a big space(?)       like tab in html
[16:34] <powergoal2> Quest_: icewm comes with a builtin net/cpu graph as well
[16:34] <bullgard4> What does mean: "# Canonical mapping, commented out." in /usr/share/hotkey-setup/ibm.hk?
[16:34] <powergoal2> Quest_: but you would need to switch into icewm instead of kde/gnome
[16:34] <Quest_> powergoal2 icewm ?
[16:34] <agent> how do i enable page-scroll in evince so that i can scroll through the pages without using the "next"-page button? this used to work before a recent update!
[16:34] <powergoal2> Quest_: its a windowmanager
[16:34] <powergoal2> !icewm | Quest_
[16:34] <joaopinto> bullgard4, it means what you read on the comments, and nothing that we can help you with here :)
[16:34] <powergoal2> hmm..
[16:35] <powergoal2> Quest_: http://www.icewm.org/
[16:35] <Tooplex> Can anyone here help me with installing ubuntu please
[16:35] <joaopinto> bullgard4, try #ubuntu-devel you will have better changes of someone which worked on that comment
[16:35] <Quest_> k
[16:35] <powergoal2> bullgard4: canonical means thati ts the way most systems are set up
[16:35] <powergoal2> bullgard4: or it specifies a particular keyboard setup, but i don't think thats the case
[16:36] <Tooplex> anyone?
[16:36] <danbhfive> Tooplex: whats the problem?
[16:36] <lollydays> Tooplex, be more specific
[16:37] <mib_k18ntknl> any ubuntu kernel expert over here??
[16:37] <ommegang> if anyone is using a logitech quickcam express with 8.04 private message me tkx
[16:37] <Tooplex> Right, i want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows XP on the same hard drive, i already have windows on this hard drive but i want to know how i can make ubuntu install to a partion i have created and still have it reconise windows on the boot loader
[16:37] <bullgard4> joaopinto: Sorry that you did not write 'we' in capital letters.
[16:37] <Tooplex> Hope you understand all that lol
[16:38] <jersson> alguien que me diga como instalar el wine
[16:38] <jbroome> !es | jersson
[16:38] <bullgard4> jersson: Por favor habla en Engles.
[16:38] <powergoal2> timz: one way is with    non-breaking space
[16:38] <powergoal2> timz: type that instead of a space
[16:38] <jersson> no s ecomo entarar ahi solo nececito instalar el wine
[16:38] <danbhfive> Tooplex: can you tell me the size of your harddrive, and the size of each partition?
[16:38] <ommegang> does the logitech quickcam express that is $4.99 at geeks.com work oob?
[16:39] <powergoal2> Tooplex: i think that the grub loader will auto-identify the windows system and install an option to the menu
[16:39] <RainCT> jersson: escribe:  /join #ubuntu-es
[16:39] <Tooplex> The hard drive altogether is 250 gb, The windows partion is 222 GB and a empty 10 gb Partion (unformated) which i want ubuntu on
[16:39] <RainCT> jersson: (aquí mismo donde estas escribiendo ahora)
[16:40] <danbhfive> Tooplex: how much ram do you have?
[16:40] <Sampe1> Have a Ubuntu networking wuestion
[16:40] <Tooplex> 4gb
[16:40] <powergoal2> Sampe1: ask the question, dont ask to ask the question
[16:40] <RainCT> !ask | Sampe1
[16:40] <danbhfive> Tooplex: are you going to use the 32bit version?
[16:40] <Tooplex> no i burned the 64 bit one
[16:40] <powergoal2> RainCT: thats a fancy button you have there RainCT :p
[16:40] <mib_k18ntknl> can somebody point me to the kernel page?
[16:40] <powergoal2> mib_k18ntknl: kernel.org
[16:40] <danbhfive> Tooplex: as this is your first time, I personallly recommend going with the 32bit version
[16:41] <RainCT> powergoal2: heh. discover the power of ubottu ;)
[16:41] <powergoal2> RainCT: is there some way to see all available inputs to ubottu?
[16:41] <Tooplex> Why? How is it any different from 32 bit ( except it cant reconise 4 gb)
[16:41] <trashguy> 64bit has its pitfalls
[16:41] <mib_k18ntknl> powergoal2, how about the irc?
[16:41] <Sampe1> I have three ubuntu boxes (they used to be an assortment of other linux)... when I go to Nautilus and search the network the others don't show up.... a SAMBA share on w indows box does however... I can access these other boxes via SSH and SCP but not graphically... any ideas?... is this an NFS question?
[16:41] <bullgard4> powergoal2: I am sorry but I do not understand your English "canonical means thati ts the way most systems are set up."
[16:41] <trashguy> like flash and firefox being crap
[16:41] <danbhfive> Tooplex: but, there will be no harm in just installing to that 10g partition, just forget about swap, you wont need it
[16:41] <RainCT> powergoal2: http://jussi01.com/web/factoids.cgi
[16:42] <Tooplex> Lol
[16:42] <Tooplex> So i should go and download/burn the 32 bit?
[16:42] <danbhfive> Tooplex: 64bit, things like flash don't work so straight forward, and I think there are other problems
[16:42] <linuxkrn> hey guys, got a small problem with booting a dmraid.  I have successfully installed grub (it boots the initramfs and my XP partition) but for some reason the kernel can't see the root partition and I think it needs to be told to do dmraid for the rest of the boot...somehow  Checked the how-to but it appears for 7.10, any suggestions?
[16:42] <powergoal2> RainCT: thankyou much
[16:42] <danbhfive> Tooplex: you will have less problems if you do
[16:42] <Tooplex> Ok thanks ill go do that now
[16:42] <powergoal2> bullgard4: ok, so canonical means: conforming to recognized rules or laws
[16:43] <trashguy> Tooplex, i run 32bit but use the server kernel so it detects all my memory
[16:43] <chieffancypants> how do I kill a program I've ran through wine?
[16:43] <powergoal2> mib_k18ntknl: im afraid i don't know what you want here
[16:43] <deep_blue> rainCT, powergoal2, redwing, lollydays, ubottu, DM|...........thankyou to all of these guys for helping me out.....:-) Loving Ubuntu.....bye
[16:43] <RainCT> chieffancypants: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[16:43] <powergoal2> deep_blue: :)  good luck!
[16:43] <mib_k18ntknl> powergoal2: i mean the discussion forum
[16:43] <bullgard4> powergoal2: All right, I got it. Thank you very much.
[16:44] <powergoal2> chieffancypants: ps aux | grep <program name>; afterwards sudo kill the PID of that program
[16:44] <chieffancypants> RainCT: Thanks.  It didn't show up in ps aux for some reason
[16:44] <Tooplex> so its the "Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)" i need to download right?
[16:44] <powergoal2> mib_k18ntknl: are you trying to manually compile a kernel?
[16:44] <RainCT> chieffancypants: You're welcome. If the application is visible you can also do Alt + F2 -> "xkill" and then click on it
[16:45] <chieffancypants> RainCT: Nice.  Thanks!
[16:45] <mib_k18ntknl> powergoal2: i think yes..am about recompile the kernel module
[16:45] <danbhfive> Tooplex: just so you know, 10g is a little small, as long as you don't download large files, whatever, you should be ok.  If you stick with ubuntu, you will probably want to make it bigger, and make a separate /home partition too, but that stuff can happen later
[16:45] <sampe1> should I be installing NFS so I can see one ubuntu box from another ubuntu box through nautilus?
[16:45] <harisund> Is Ubuntu becoming bloated these days? I had an old desktop (something like 500 MhZ I think) on which I recall installing breezy, now hardy doesn't install on it anymore .. any idea how I can get a basic hardy installation? Or am I better off going on with good old debian?
[16:45] <Pa[H]O> [  hello ]
[16:46] <Pa[H]O> [  ??? ]
[16:46] <Pirate_Hunter> [ HI }
[16:46] <xif> hi
[16:46] <Tooplex> Oh no dont worry I have a seperate 500 gb hard drive
[16:46] <sampe1> harisund: have you explored Xubuntu?
[16:46] <powergoal2> sampe1: no, you can do that with any other filesystem
[16:46] <Tooplex> used just for data
[16:46] <powergoal2> sampe1: so long ast there is a network connection
[16:46] <xif> I was told that cron mails stdout and stderr to me when a job finishes
[16:46] <harisund> sampe1: Is Xubuntu official? I mean, does canonical support it?
[16:46] <xif> however, I don't know how to get those messages
[16:46] <SeveredCross> xif: That it does.
[16:46] <powergoal2> mib_k18ntknl: is this useful?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[16:46] <xif> SeveredCross: cool... how do I read those messages?
[16:46] <sampe1> powergoal2: there is a connection. I can SSH and SCP, but it does not show up in the newtok listing in my nautilus
[16:47] <SeveredCross> xif: It mails them to whoever is set as the maildrop for root...So, they're probably in /var/ somewhere.
[16:47] <Tooplex> danbhfive:so my data "problems" shouldnt happen
[16:47] <Tooplex> danbhfive: as ubuntu reconises NTFS
[16:47] <SeveredCross> xif: Check /var/spool/mail.
[16:47] <xif> SeveredCross: OK, checking
[16:47] <sampe1> harisund: dunno.. I know that it is advertised on the ubuntu site a flavour along with kubuntu and edubuntu
[16:47] <xif> SeveredCross: emptry.
[16:47] <eblume> Hi. I'm trying to set up a 32 bit chroot for my amd64 system to solve some linking issues. The guide I'm following says to run cdebootstrap -a i386, but I assume that's wrong since I have an amd processor. What 32 bit architecture should I target for amd?
[16:47] <SeveredCross> It might require a mail daemon to send mail, though I'm not sure.
[16:47] <powergoal2> sampe1: if you can connect through ssh and whatnot, you should be able to type the IP into nautilus and connect that way
[16:47] <SeveredCross> xif: It probably requires a daemon then.
[16:47] <danbhfive> Tooplex: I believe so
[16:47] <xif> SeveredCross: is there any other way to obtain cron's stderr/stdout then?
[16:48] <powergoal2> sampe1: the alternative is to use a terminal to navigate the other system
[16:48] <SeveredCross> eblume: No, that's right. i386 is a generic term for any 386 or better processor.
[16:48] <harisund> sampe1: oh ok, I am not really familiar with the website itself, just the mirrors for dowloading and stuff :) I will check it out, thanks
[16:48] <gioele> hello
[16:48] <xif> I tried syslog, it's not there...
[16:48] <Tooplex> danbhfive: But what do you mean by a /home partion?
[16:48] <SeveredCross> xif: You can have your script output them both to a file?
[16:48] <eblume> SeveredCross, Thanks very much!
[16:48] <aestrivex> perhaps this is a stupid question, but i just booted, found that initializing bluetooth was causing the boot process to perpetually hang, so i went into recovery mode, removed the bluetooth script from /etc/init.d/ since i figured i'd never use bluetooth.  i have no idea why bluetooth was not initializing properly.   for some reason this has caused my USB optical mouse not to function.  how do i fix it?
[16:48] <Tooplex> danbhfive: what does it do exactly?
[16:48] <xif> SeveredCross: yeah, I would have expected it to be logged somewhere...
[16:48] <xif> i.e. automatically.
[16:48] <gioele> is there a way to import an x.509 certificate system wide so that all the applications of all the users can use it without additional steps?
[16:49] <powergoal2> aestrivex: you don't want to get rid of the script, in order to keep it from booting you want to remove it from your rc level
[16:49] <xif> SeveredCross: but thanks, I'll just log them myself.
[16:50] <chieffancypants> I can use windows fonts in linux can't I?
[16:50] <aestrivex> powergoal2: maybe so, but in booting into recovery mode i didn't have a lot of options and removed the script because i knew that would probably fix the problem. either way thats what i did.
[16:50] <danbhfive> Tooplex: well, the short answer is that /home is where all your settings and personal files get stored.  If you ever reinstall, everything gets deleted.  By putting /home on a separate partition, you can prevent /home from getting deleted, and this when you reinstall, all your files and settings get saved
[16:50] <xnv> chieffancypants: http://www.google.com/search?name=f&hl=en&q=I+can+use+windows+fonts+in+linux+can't+I%3F
[16:50] <danbhfive> Tooplex: but don't worry about that till you actually tried linux out
[16:50] <dinar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[16:51] <Tooplex> danbhfive: ah i see well i have tryed the live cd that what makes me want to put ubuntu on my machine lol
[16:51] <dinar> chieffancypants https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[16:51] <powergoal2> aestrivex: you might be able to get the script from the install cd, or maybe find it online.  i don't know why this is happening though
[16:51] <sampe1> harisund:  when installing ubuntu on a couple of older boxes I found the major limitation was RAM and disk size...  if you are bellow 250 meg of ram and don't have enough disk space the install won't go...  just remember that just pumping up those two parts doe snot mean you'll have a box worthy of serving media..... xubuntu is trimmed down GUI... I even use ubuntu server that runs without a head for servers... that is a great way to repurpose
[16:52] <hosk> i just saw this crazy video where someone used a terminal command to change his desktop background to a playing video file, how did he do that?
[16:52] <[ipc]-michael> yeah
[16:52] <[ipc]-michael> net-split?
[16:53] <gvk> he was chuck norris
[16:53] <ncls> hi people, can anyone give me any help getting an external screen to work on a macbook running ubuntu 8.04?
[16:53] <sampe1> powergoal2: the goal is NOT to be stuck in a terminal all the time... I spend enough time in there for stuff... I like sometimes to just click and drag when organizing files... and it doesn't make sense why it would not work.
[16:53] <harisund> sampe1: Precisely, repurpose is what I am trying to do ... I guess I will start with a server-install of Ubuntu and work from there
[16:53] <Tooplex> So when i go to install ubuntu how do i get it to install to my 10 gb partion? When i went on the 64 bit installer there was like 3 options Whole hard drive, i cant remember second one and manuel
[16:53] <Tooplex> i went on the manuel and wanting to install it to the 10gb confused the heck out of me
[16:54] <null_byte> hi all.. someone has a solution to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=888686 ? please?
[16:54] <powergoal2> sampe1: sorry, im not the one to talk to about it then.  i use console only
[16:54] <Tooplex> Like it asked me for mount point, and what to format it to
[16:54] <Tooplex> thats what i mainly want help with
[16:54] <db92> null_byte, either compromise, or consider asking in wine support chan :\
[16:55] <powergoal2> Tooplex: the moutpoint you want is / for your root directory
[16:55] <null_byte> ok db92:)
[16:55] <sampe1> harisund: if you start with a server install (no GUI mind you)... you can always try various flavours of window managers... if you just need a GUI initialy then try out fluxbox, or XFCE (whihc is what xubuntu uses anyways)... all can be installed via the command line using apt-get from the regular repose... just read the docs in the ubuntu forums.
[16:55] <sampe1> powergoal: thanks.
[16:55] <powergoal2> Tooplex: if you want the whole disk used the select whole disk.  the problem with how ubuntu does that (in my opinion) is that it creates a number of partitions that i don't ever see being used.
[16:55] <null_byte> db92: it says: invite only channel :|
[16:55] <powergoal2> sampe1: yeah, sorry
[16:55] <db92> null_byte, cant be :\\\
[16:55] <sampe1> Anyone field some networking file system questions between two ubuntu boxes using a GUI like Nautilus?
[16:55] <null_byte> try to join #wine
[16:56] <db92> ffs
[16:56] <db92> the chan is #winehq :\\\\
[16:56] <Tooplex> Powergoal: If i set it to / will that still make it reconise windows on the other partion?
[16:56] <null_byte> oh ok
[16:56] <null_byte> works :D thanks again db92
[16:56] <Greyhound|NB> what should I install in order to be able to open .rar files?
[16:56] <powergoal2> Tooplex: if you have a windows partition then don't use whole disk, but create the linux partition mount point as / to use it.  it won't change anything about windows
[16:57] <SNuxoll> Greyhound|NB: ubuntu-restricted-extras will install unrar
[16:57] <powergoal2> Greyhound|NB: i think there is an unrar utility
[16:57] <danbhfive> Tooplex: your windows partition should be recognized later on in the install process.  setting it to / will just allow ubuntu to install.  The format should be ext3
[16:57] <RainCT> Greyhound|NB: install unrar-nonfree
[16:57] <AdvoWork> how can u tell if a cronjob is currently running?
[16:57] <sidewalk> can anyone recommend any application for linux that is like Windows Movie Maker?
[16:57] <SNuxoll> Greyhound|NB: file-roller is capable of using unrar as a backend, so you can open archives like you normally do
[16:57] <powergoal2> RainCT: can you use !<packagename> to get info on any package in the repos?
[16:58] <Tooplex> powergoal12/danbhfive: So doing that wont touch my windows partion at all?
[16:58] <SNuxoll> powergoal2: no, !info <packagename>
[16:58] <Greyhound|NB> thanks
[16:58] <danbhfive> Tooplex: yep
[16:58] <bullgard4> "~$ showkey -s; Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console." How to get rid of this error?
[16:58] <powergoal2> SNuxoll: cool, thanks
[16:59] <danbhfive> Tooplex: and the windows install should be automatically recognized and installed into the bootloader.
[16:59] <l3x> can anyone please tell me how to move my /home folder to another partition? i formated my c: to ext3 (totally erased window$) and now i want to use that patition as /home. how do i do that???
[16:59] <alec> im having problems using an ipod in linux, get error message when i try to load ipod in gtk pod. any suggestions?
[16:59] <Tooplex> Ok thanks Is there a IRC client in the live cd in case i need help with the install later on?
[16:59] <SNuxoll> l3x: copy the *CONTENTS* of your home to that partition
[16:59] <powergoal2> bullgard4: you are in a VT not in gnome or kde right?
[17:00] <danbhfive> l3x: I had a webpage on it at some point
[17:00] <kitche> Tooplex: yes xchat
[17:00] <frojnd> What does that mean if I use Legacy driver hardware ? I got thatmesage when I've started elisa. Any thoughts ?
[17:00] <kitche> Tooplex: to be more precise xchat-gnome
[17:00] <danbhfive> Tooplex: I think there is pidgin actually
[17:00] <SNuxoll> l3x: so in the root of that partition you should have folders for all your users, after you are done
[17:00] <l3x> SNuxoll: then, i have to change my user /home path to that folder and make it mount as /home right?
[17:00] <SNuxoll> l3x: then after that you just need to modify your fstab
[17:00] <frojnd> And another question. How can I turn off awn ?
[17:00] <SNuxoll> l3x: no, the home path doesn't need to be changed
[17:00] <Tooplex> Thought Pidgin is just a msn client?
[17:00] <powergoal2> l3x: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/11654-how-change-dir-if-missing-user-home-directory.html
[17:01] <teratoma_>  what font does 'pterm' use?  i would like to use it in gnome-terminal
[17:01] <SNuxoll> l3x: since when you mount the partition as /home it'll be in the same location
[17:01] <bullgard4> powergoal2: Yes.
[17:01] <nixnoob> Tooplex: no it can handle many protocols
[17:01] <danbhfive> Tooplex: I dunno, I use it for irc  :P
[17:01] <powergoal2> bullgard4: you are trying to identify a keycode, right?
[17:01] <bullgard4> powergoal2: Yes.
[17:01] <l3x> SNuxoll: thanx very much
[17:01] <danbhfive> Tooplex: but I suspect that xchat may not be on the livecd
[17:01] <SNuxoll> l3x: no problem, 's what I'm here for :)
[17:02] <thesaint4444> hi guys, trying to use visudo but for some strange reason the normal vim commands won't work. I can't insert.. any suggestions? thanks.
[17:02] <l3x> heh :)
[17:02] <powergoal2> !info xev | bullgard4
[17:03] <powergoal2> bullgard4: lookup a program called xev.  it will show you all sorts of keycode info inside X
[17:03] <Tooplex> Well thanks for everything danbhfive/Powergoal12/Kitche you were a great help :)
[17:03] <SNuxoll> !search xev
[17:03] <SNuxoll> !find xev
[17:03] <danbhfive> Tooplex: yourwelcome!
[17:03] <Tooplex> If i need more help ill come back here
[17:03] <powergoal2> bullgard4: http://www.xfree86.org/current/xev.1.html
[17:03] <Tooplex> Bye
[17:04] <thesaint4444> how do I insert text into the sudoers file on heron via visudo ? thanks.
[17:04] <bullgard4> powergoal2: Ihave been using xev in the past. I would like to run the showkey command.
[17:04] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: hit "i" to go into insert mode
[17:04] <bringatowel> does anyone know how to configure mpdscribble after installing the package?
[17:04] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: type whatever you want, hit ESC to back out into command mode
[17:04] <eblume> Hmm. cdebootstrap seems to be failing with at P: Configuring helper cdebootstrap-helper-apt
[17:04] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: then type :wq to save and exit
[17:04] <eblume> Does anyone know about that?
[17:04] <thesaint4444> SNuxoll: thats the problem... it doesnt work! I use vim all the time.
[17:05] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: well, to be honest, you don't need to use visudo to edit your sudoers file
[17:05] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: any text editor will work
[17:05] <thesaint4444> SNuxoll: for some strange reason it won't go into insert mode.
[17:05] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: just make sure that you don't have any wonky syntax or your sudo will be fubar'ed
[17:05] <powergoal2> bullgard4: have you tried running it as root?  sudo showkey -s  ?
[17:05] <thesaint4444> SNuxoll: cool.. thats what I will do then.
[17:06] <eblume> Is anyone here familiar with cdebootstrap?
[17:06] <xintron_> How do I check which kernel I'm running?
[17:07] <eblume> Is there an alternative to cdebootstrap I can try, since it seems to be hanging?
[17:07] <SNuxoll> xintron: uname -r
[17:08] <thesaint4444> SNuxoll: ok, thanks. and I suppose just change the permissions to edit and then change them back again?
[17:08] <bullgard4> powergoal2: 'sudo showkey -s' produces strange results: It scrolls an empty xterm up. Later the prompt appears to the left but the xterm keeps scrolling up.
[17:08] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: no
[17:08] <powergoal2> bullgard4: you are in an xterm?
[17:08] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: sudo vi /etc/sudoers
[17:08] <bullgard4> powergoal2: Yes sir.
[17:08] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: should just work
[17:08] <powergoal2> bullgard4: thats the problem
[17:08] <xintron> SNuxoll: Thanks. I'm running 2.6.24-19. Can someone tell my why virtualbox (with modules-2.6.24-19-generic) complains about wrong version: "The VirtualBox support driver which is running is from a different version of VirtualBox. You can correct this by stopping all running instances of VirtualBox and reinstalling the software.."
[17:08] <gvk> sudo visudo
[17:08] <powergoal2> bullgard4: you have to be in a virtual terminal
[17:09] <bullgard4> powergoal2: xterm is a virtual terminal.
[17:09] <powergoal2> bullgard4: switch to the terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 - f6 and login.  then use showkey -s
[17:09] <powergoal2> bullgard4: oh,  you're right.  you need the terminal
[17:09] <powergoal2> bullgard4: my bad guy
[17:09] <thesaint4444> SNuxoll: no, the system has it set up as read only but default....
[17:10] <jersson> alguien que em diga como instalar el wine
[17:10] <thesaint4444> SNuxoll: sorry, by default..
[17:10] <shadowhywind> ok back with major issue # 2. When i try to boot i am getting crc error followed by Kernel panic - not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[17:10] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: ahh, yeah
[17:10] <jersson> alguien qu eme diga como linstalar el wine
[17:11] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: sudo chmod o+w /etc/sudoers && sudo vi /etc/sound/ && chmod o-w /etc/sudoers
[17:11] <powergoal2> shadowhywind: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27709.html
[17:11] <magnetron> jersson, spanish? portugese?
[17:11] <samper> sorry folks,, got bounced... was someone answering my networking via Nautilus questions?
[17:11] <SNuxoll> thesaint4444: err, u+w, not o+w
[17:11] <shadowhywind> powergoal2: will look and see thanks
[17:11] <jersson> alguien que me diga como instalar el wine
[17:11] <jersson> alguien que me diga como instaklar el winw
[17:12] <magnetron> !english | jersson
[17:12] <ikonia> !es > jersson
[17:12] <Swarming> Good afternoon. New to Ubuntu and the community. Is there a downloadable version of the documentation for Ubuntu?
[17:12] <bullgard4> powergoal2: 'showkey -s' works all right in a virtual console.
[17:12] <ikonia> Swarming: you get the basic docs in /usr/share/docs
[17:12] <ikonia> Swarming: tons more on line
[17:12] <jersson> alguien que me diga como instalar wine
[17:12] <Swarming> thank you
[17:13] <jersson> vivora
[17:13] <mrtubby> does anybody know if i will break ubuntu by "chown root:www-data /home"
[17:14] <ikonia> mrtubby: why would you want to do that ?
[17:14] <ikonia> mrtubby: what is your end goal ?
[17:14] <hotmonkeyluv> does ubuntu come with LVM support if you don't use the server edition? And can you compile in PAE to the regular kernel after you install it?
[17:14] <ikonia> hotmonkeyluv: you can't compile anything into a binary kernel
[17:14] <hotmonkeyluv> oh
[17:14] <ikonia> hotmonkeyluv: lvm packages are available for the desktop version
[17:14] <ikonia> hotmonkeyluv: just not at install time
[17:14] <hotmonkeyluv> ok
[17:14] <hotmonkeyluv> hrm
[17:15] <hotmonkeyluv> thanks!
[17:15] <summatusmentis> win! I've got Ubuntu booting from USB stick :)
[17:15] <Afflicted> how to change apt-get mirror location?
[17:15] <ikonia> Afflicted: change /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:15] <Afflicted> thanks
[17:16] <jersson> alguien que me diga como instalar el wine
[17:16] <mrtubby> Ikonia, in the end i want to have a web service make home directories
[17:16] <ikonia> jersson: english please
[17:16] <ikonia> !es | jersson
[17:16] <jersson> alguien que me diga como instalar el wine
[17:16] <ikonia> mrtubby: "make" as in create new
[17:16] <mrtubby> aye
[17:16] <jersson> #ubuntu-es
[17:17] <jersson> alguien que me diga como instalar el wine
[17:17] <ikonia> mrtubby: well the "web service" should be doing things with root privileges
[17:17] <ikonia> jersson: please stop
[17:17] <magnetron> jersson, /j #ubuntu-es
[17:17] <ikonia> mrtubby: eg: if they can't execute useradd as root - whats the point of letting them create /home directories
[17:17] <mrtubby> seriously? apache has root priv
[17:17] <ikonia> mrtubby: no - it doesn't and it shouldn't
[17:17] <mrtubby> thank god
[17:17] <SNuxoll> mrtubby: by default apache doesn't have root privelages, and it shouldn't
[17:17] <ikonia> mrtubby: but without root privileges how do you expect it to create a user
[17:18] <mrtubby> long huge thing in short i'm using pam-mysql and managing users via a web interface
[17:18] <ikonia> mrtubby: again - how do you expect users to be created ?
[17:19] <ikonia> mrtubby: what are you authing? physical users or virtual web users ?
[17:19] <ikonia> authing I mean
[17:19] <mrtubby> physical, but with pam-mysql and nss-mysql you can have a linux box use a mysql database instead of shadow/group/passwd
[17:20] <mrtubby> soo i make the user via sql
[17:20] <gisli> hastala vista babe
[17:20] <Koenie12345> never seen so much people in an irc channel
[17:20] <Koenie12345> lol
[17:20] <Tooplex> Hello again
[17:20] <mib_79g8abkn> hey folks, I'm new here
[17:20] <ikonia> mrtubby:I see, so I'd suggest looking at either setuid on somethin glike mkdir, or an no password sudo for the apache owner on mkdir
[17:20] <gisli> is this ubuntu server
[17:20] <mib_79g8abkn> I've got a bit of an issue, I'm at a dead end
[17:20] <genius> on default configuration (i don't use gui and desktop) i have /etc/network/interface -> iface eth0 inet dhcp -> which does not auto-sense if the cable is present. So it boots up very long and i have to restart networking to be able to connect/disconnect cable. How to fix ?
[17:21] <Tooplex> I need some more help
[17:21] <mrtubby> i didn't know the no password sudo was possible
[17:21] <ikonia> mrtubby: sure is
[17:21] <mib_79g8abkn> if anyone's willing to help, please message me :)
[17:21] <ikonia> mrtubby: visudo /etc/sudoers
[17:21] <mrtubby> right with a line like "www-data  ALL:(ALL) /path to script"
[17:21] <danbhfive> mib_79g8abkn: just post what your problem is to the chat
[17:21] <mrtubby> damn faces
[17:22] <ikonia> mrtubby: not quite, but that sort of thing, yes
[17:22] <gisli> mama mia let me go again my my having a good time
[17:22] <mrtubby> okay i'm off to the google tron thanks
[17:22] <ikonia> gisli: please stop messing around
[17:22] <ikonia> gisli: as you can see the channel is busy, so random noise makes it harder to follow
[17:22] <gisli> wy that was a good song
[17:22] <mib_79g8abkn> http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2546/bahlo7.png <-- anyone know anything on this?
[17:22] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: what is that, looks like a website
[17:23] <mib_79g8abkn> happens to only specific users
[17:23] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: what does ?
[17:23] <mib_79g8abkn> trying to go to say cnn.com or msn.com
[17:23] <mib_79g8abkn> it takes them there
[17:23] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: most probably typo
[17:23] <mib_79g8abkn> it's not
[17:23] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: looks like a squatting domain
[17:23] <gisli> how do i make an WPA file on my computer
[17:23] <mib_79g8abkn> squatting domain? (googles)
[17:23] <thesaint4444> how do I boot into recovery mode on hardy heron? thanks.
[17:24] <ikonia> thesaint4444: boot - and select "recovery mode" from your grub menu
[17:24] <mib_79g8abkn> oh
[17:24] <Tooplex> For dual booting linux and windows, what do i format the linux partion to? Primary or Logical?
[17:24] <thesaint4444> ikonia: stupid question... thanks.
[17:24] <mib_79g8abkn> it's not squatting
[17:24] <ikonia> Tooplex: doesn't matter
[17:24] <mib_79g8abkn> that's the legit url, works on my pc or any of yours probably
[17:24] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: well, its not the right domain
[17:24] <danbhfive> mib_79g8abkn: are they using windows?
[17:24] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: what domain are they visiting when they see hat
[17:24] <ikonia> that
[17:24] <mib_79g8abkn> yes
[17:24] <mib_79g8abkn> www.cnn.com
[17:25] <mib_79g8abkn> or msn.com
[17:25] <FloodBot1> mib_79g8abkn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <mib_79g8abkn> some for yahoo.com
[17:25] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: why are you asking in an ubuntu channel if they are using windows
[17:25] <mib_79g8abkn> sorry
[17:25] <Tooplex> ikonia: are you sure, because i want the bootloader to still reconise windows on the same hard drive?
[17:25] <danbhfive> mib_79g8abkn: maybe its a virus, or the dns server has been hacked
[17:25] <mib_79g8abkn> i was directed here :(
[17:25] <ikonia> Tooplex: what are you talking about ?
[17:25] <ikonia> Tooplex: you asked how to boot into recovery mode
[17:25] <ikonia> Tooplex: ahhh no, that wasn't you
[17:25] <ikonia> Tooplex: what was your question
[17:25] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: who by
[17:25] <mib_79g8abkn> is there a different channel or server I ought to try?
[17:25] <Tooplex> ikonia: lol i asked
[17:25] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: ##windows
[17:26] <mib_79g8abkn> thanks ikonia, sorry for the inconvenience
[17:26] <ikonia> mib_79g8abkn: not at all
[17:26] <danbhfive> mib_79g8abkn: are you running the server?
[17:26] <gnumm> whith which virtualbox version should i test ubuntu 8.10? desktop or alternate CD ?
[17:26] <ikonia> Guest28823: doesn't matter, your choice
[17:26] <Tooplex> ikonia: For dual booting Linux and windows (windows is already installed on this hard drive) what do i format my ubuntu partion to? Primary or Logical?
[17:26] <ikonia> oops
[17:26] <ikonia> Guest28823: doesn't mater
[17:26] <ikonia> Tooplex: yes, it really doesn't matter
[17:26] <Ab3L> hello
[17:27] <gisli> helo how can i make an WPA file on my laptop
[17:27] <ikonia> gnumm: it doesn't matter, use what ever you want
[17:27] <Tooplex> ikonia: what about the location of the partion? Beginning or End?
[17:27] <ikonia> Tooplex: doesn't matter
[17:27] <Tooplex> ikonia: ok thanks
[17:27] <gnumm> ikonia: i heard many problems about intrepid + virtualbox
[17:27] <ikonia> gnumm: thats because intreipid is still unstable
[17:27] <ikonia> gnumm: you will have problems with it
[17:27] <gnumm> i know
[17:28] <ikonia> gnumm: ok - so whats the problem ?
[17:28] <gnumm> i mean problems with the installations
[17:28] <ikonia> it's unstable
[17:28] <gnumm> kernel panics in virtualbox
[17:28] <ikonia> there are problems
[17:28] <ikonia> gnumm: interipd is dicussied in #ubuntu+1
[17:28] <gnumm> ok
[17:28] <ikonia> discussed even
[17:29] <cannibisi> Hi I was wondering if anybody could please help me. I have a Radeon HD 2600 512mb in my laptop and cant seem to find the drivers for it since I installed Ubuntu. I have instructions on how to make it work but it says i need something called Git-Core. Can anybody help me out? I'd really appreciate it..
[17:29] <ikonia> !ati > cannibisi
[17:29] <ikonia> cannibisi: check out the info ubottu sent you first
[17:29] <hotmonkeyluv> is it possible to have two partitions for swap space?
[17:29] <ikonia> hotmonkeyluv: can have as many as you want
[17:29] <cannibisi> Thanks very much I'll read it now
[17:29] <hotmonkeyluv> ikonia, yay!
[17:29] <ikonia> cannibisi: may save you some time
[17:29] <hotmonkeyluv> thanks
[17:31] <Ax-Ax> /grep ax-ax
[17:31] <Ax-Ax> oh
[17:33] <StellarPrince> anyone here wants to participate in a friendly chess tournament?
[17:33] <hotmonkeyluv> how big should my root directory be if i'm not planning on installing a whole bunch of stuff?
[17:34] <ikonia> StellarPrince: please don't recuirt for that sort of thing
[17:34] <StellarPrince> ok
[17:34] <ikonia> hotmonkeyluv: your call, 4GB is pretty much the same minimum
[17:34] <ikonia> safe
[17:34] <ikonia> not same
[17:34] <gvk> hotmonkeyluv: /root or / ?
[17:34] <gisli> helo gay people
[17:34] <alraune> hotmonkeyluv: least 10 G
[17:34] <ikonia> !ak gisli
[17:34] <hotmonkeyluv> gvk, /
[17:35] <alraune> !ot |gisli
[17:35] <hotmonkeyluv> alraune, thanks
[17:36] <alraune> hotmonkeyluv:  love you, lol
[17:37] <mrpiracy> i have 3 sound cards in my pc (running hardy). how can i set a default card to be played by all programs (ie. songbird)?
[17:37] <cannibisi> Anyone know how to "stretch" my screen out? Ubuntu had made it much smaller, lots of black on left and right of screen
[17:38] <mib_k18ntknl> any kernel expert over here????
[17:38] <danbhfive> cannibisi: you sure it just isnt a monitor function?
[17:38] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: ask the questions
[17:38] <gvk> cannibisi: You need to set x to your lcd's navice resolution.
[17:38] <mib_k18ntknl> any kernel expert over here????
[17:38] <gvk> native*
[17:38] <thesaint4444> ikonia: thanks... fixed
[17:38] <ikonia> thesaint4444: excellent, well done
[17:38] <cannibisi> gvk: how do I go about that?
[17:38] <danbhfive> mib_k18ntknl: you won't find kernel experts here, but feel free to ask your question
[17:39] <danbhfive> mib_k18ntknl: (at least I don't think you will)
[17:39] <alraune> mrpiracy : i.e. alsamixer
[17:39] <gvk> cannibisi: System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[17:39] <mib_k18ntknl> ikonia: how to recompile a single kernel module???
[17:39] <mrpiracy> alraune, i should install it?
[17:39] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: depends on the modules and its dependencies
[17:39] <IMPOSIBLE> hi
[17:40] <ikonia> IMPOSIBLE: hello
[17:40] <mib_k18ntknl> ikonia: i was successfull apt-get all the dependencies..
[17:40] <cannibisi> gvk: Ah yes i thought so, it only lets me go to 1024 x 768 as my graphics card isnt installed yet (working on it still but i dont know linux command line very well yet)
[17:40] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: which dependencies ?
[17:40] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: you've not told me which module ?
[17:40] <alraune> mrpiracy : (as root) apt-get install alsa-base alsa-firmware-loaders alsa-oss alsa-source alsa-tools	alsa-tools-gui	alsa-utils alsamixergui
[17:41] <mib_k18ntknl> ikonia: libncurses5 ...blablabla n now i can compile it from a kernel source
[17:41] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: curses is not a kernel module
[17:41] <NOT_guru> hello all
[17:41] <gvk> cannibisi: Go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and install the driver from there.
[17:41] <mib_k18ntknl> ikonia: but it doesn't create me an initialramdisk in /boot
[17:41] <Pile-Malo> module is loader cofinng sys
[17:41] <Pile-Malo> :D
[17:41] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: if you want help - answer the questions
[17:41] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: "what module"
[17:41] <KilleR> haj tisina
[17:41] <KilleR> sad svi
[17:41] <KilleR> :)
[17:41] <mib_k18ntknl> ikonia:i mean dependencies
[17:41] <cannibisi> Gvk: In order to install the drivers for my radeon HD, I have to " Install linux-restricted-modules and restricted-manager provided in the restricted repositories"... but I do not know how to do this. Can you give me any commands?
[17:41] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: what module
[17:41] <Pile-Malo> cofing sys
[17:42] <mib_k18ntknl> ikonia:DRM
[17:42] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: drm ?
[17:42] <dusty_> Hey guys I am trying to make a firewall like so: Default deny all unless i specifically allow it.  I allow ssh and DNS (as its a nameserver). Everything else gets dropped, how can i log the 'everything else' that gets dropped.. ? my ruleset so far is: http://rafb.net/p/AhSDIF36.html i know i use -j LOG but do i do it on the policy lines or how would i achieve this ?
[17:42] <Pile-Malo> hehe
[17:42] <Pile-Malo> :D
[17:42] <KilleR> Jebeli li vas ko zasto ?
[17:42] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: be specific, what kernel module do you want ?
[17:42] <danbhfive> cannibisi: can you start the restricted-manger?
[17:42] <Pile-Malo> hehe
[17:42] <ikonia> KilleR: what language ?
[17:42] <ikonia> Pile-Malo: what ?
[17:42] <mrpiracy> alraune, u reckon it will be recognized by all players?
[17:42] <KilleR> zacepi
[17:42] <KilleR> niti jedne
[17:42] <ikonia> Pile-Malo: why do you keep saying he he
[17:42] <KilleR> nije ovo merhamet
[17:42] <Pile-Malo> who is client module xait
[17:42] <Gost_34747> Poz
[17:42] <KilleR> hajmo svi lagano
[17:42] <Pile-Malo> poz
[17:42] <KilleR> gasenje :)
[17:43] <KilleR> pc-a
[17:43] <Pile-Malo> polo me vragec po admina da mi date
[17:43] <s3m1r> jedva udjoh
[17:43] <s3m1r> lol
[17:43] <Pile-Malo> hehe
[17:43] <Pile-Malo> :D
[17:43] <Pile-Malo> hehehe
[17:43] <mib_k18ntknl> ikonia: yes..i already set DRM=m
[17:43] <FloodBot1> Pile-Malo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <alraune> mrpiracy : hpefully
[17:43] <Pile-Malo> jao jao
[17:43] <Pile-Malo> :D
[17:43] <danbhfive> I think the channel is being spammed
[17:43] <ikonia> mib_k18ntknl: then the module is already built and you just need to load it
[17:43] <s3m1r> imal ovde nasih ?
[17:43] <dusty_> Anyone ?
[17:43] <s3m1r> balkanaca
[17:43] <s3m1r> :D
[17:43] <gvk> cannibisi: type in a terminal      sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
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