[09:04] <ripthejacker> indus: pacenet sux no response from call centre and always down
[09:04] <ripthejacker> indus: its not pacenet
[09:04] <indus> ripthejacker: aks your cable guy, he can monitor, iam sure you have a static ip
[09:04] <ripthejacker> indus: ive used pacanet b4 wen there was trick to make it unlimited
[09:05] <ripthejacker> indus: no dynamic
[09:05] <indus> ripthejacker: he can monitor it
[09:05] <indus> ripthejacker:you got connection from him? then you can
[09:05] <ripthejacker> indus: but i want to check on my pc
[09:05] <ripthejacker> indus: is it so difficult
[09:05] <indus> ripthejacker: hmm not sure
[09:06] <indus> !info etherape
[09:06] <ripthejacker> indus: i am not good at shell scripts
[09:06] <indus> ripthejacker: try that
[09:06] <indus> ripthejacker: etherape
[09:07] <indus> ripthejacker: ok found it, install bmon
[09:07] <indus> ripthejacker: or http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[09:07] <ripthejacker> indus: kk ill check dat out
[09:08] <indus> ripthejacker: also, use that instead of dat :)
[09:08] <indus> ripthejacker: helps in future
[09:08] <ripthejacker> indus: lol
[09:08] <ripthejacker> indus: ok
[09:09] <kraut> moin
[09:11] <om26er> !test
[09:13] <tiox> If anyone replied about my gwinwrap problem, I figured it out. :P
[09:14] <Infin1ty> i've been trying to rebuild openoffice package, it compiled well, but then at the time building the package i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m5d58e57a this is really annoying since it took me over 5hours to compile it!
[09:14]  * ryanc_ tries to get things to boot again
[09:15] <om26er> !uds
[09:16] <ryanc_> arg....
[09:17] <Viki27> hello does someone know how can i use preg_march to catch all english char in text file (i created script that read line by line from text file , i would like to find out which line contains english chars.. ) ?
[09:17] <gdmsetup> kernel 2.6.32 is goin to be available for karmic?
[09:17] <maj-cokl> would anyone with intel gma 9* and 9.10 show me output from following command: glxinfo -l | grep 'GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE'
[09:17] <maj-cokl> thanks much folks
[09:18] <rags> how to remove a package without removing the associated dependencies....? I've installed the pakge from source and now I want to remove the pre-pakaged one...but it's removing the dependencies as well
[09:18] <gdmsetup> maj-cokl: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE = 4096
[09:18] <maj-cokl> gdmsetup: hm. thanks much
[09:20] <bcj> How do I change my GDM log-in screen?  I've installed a new theme from the repo's, but when I run gdmsetup (either from the command line or menu) I only get the chance to change default user - nothing about themes.
[09:20] <bcj> (Ubuntu 9.10)
[09:22] <dutchbuntu> rags: sudo apt-get remove [package name]
[09:22] <soreau> bcj: Since gdm has been restructured, I don't think there is a way to change themes through gdmsetup any longer
[09:22] <MenZa> That is correct.
[09:23] <bcj> How does one do it then?
[09:23] <MenZa> There's a hacky approach to doing it, but as it is currently, shouldn't be recommended.
[09:23] <soreau> There may be another method, but if there is I do not know of it
[09:23] <rags> dutchbuntu: That doesn't remove the depedencies?...
[09:23] <MenZa> bcj: Short answer, you don't.
[09:23] <bcj> WTF!?
[09:23] <MenZa> rags: sudo apt-get autoremove will.
[09:23] <soreau> MenZa: Care to share the hax method?
[09:23] <soreau> :)
[09:23] <MenZa> soreau: I don't recall it, but let me have a look around.
[09:23] <rags> MenZa: oh...ok...Thx
[09:23] <bcj> Why is it not possible to change the theme?
[09:24] <rags> MenZa: and aptitude reomves the depnds right?
[09:24] <MenZa> bcj: It isn't for now.
[09:24] <MenZa> bcj: I'm sure it's not intended to be closed down entirely :)
[09:24] <bcj> No, _why_ is it not possible?
[09:24] <soreau> MenZa: In my minds eye, I see editing a file in /etc somewhere ;)
[09:24] <tonystark> i need help ppl i just upgrade to 9.10 it says that i had 4 broken packges and i cannot log to internet cuz  my firefox didnt setup while upgrade so i need help
[09:24] <tonystark> how i could fix my system
[09:24] <MenZa> bcj: Because the developers probably focused on stability over theming for now. I'm sure it's planned to include it.
[09:24] <MenZa> soreau: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[09:25] <MenZa> bcj: You can, however, have a look at the above link.
[09:25] <soreau> bcj: Because gdm is being restructured so with the current implementation, it is not possible
[09:25] <cankoy> maj-cokl: can you turn on visual effects? (compiz)
[09:25] <tonystark> hey room can any one help me here
[09:25] <tonystark> ?
[09:25] <MenZa> tonystark: Patience, young padawan. If anyone knows, they will help.
[09:25] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: patience please
[09:25] <bcj> Thanks all for your answers - I look forward to the day when GDM gets theming back.
[09:25] <tonystark> k
[09:25] <tonystark> srry
[09:26] <soreau> MenZa: Nice. Thanks for looking that up.
[09:26] <MenZa> soreau: Welcome.
[09:26] <maj-cokl> cankoy: i can turn everything i want, but this affects me: bablin
[09:26] <maj-cokl> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_X3100
[09:26] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: do you have internet connection in the terminal?
[09:26] <maj-cokl> cankoy: ^^ sorry
[09:26] <tonystark> yeah
[09:26] <tonystark> i do
[09:26] <tonystark> when i setup firefox in terminal it gives me errors too
[09:26] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: try this command: 'sudo apt-get install -f' (w/o the quotes)
[09:27] <Meowpup> ubuntu 9.10 is ok but it still has buggs
[09:27] <cankoy> maj-cokl: nothing happens on my intel gma based notebook here when i turn on effects, that's why I asked
[09:27] <MenZa> Meowpup: All software has bugs.
[09:27] <tonystark> k thx wait
[09:27] <Meowpup> MenZa: lol my point exactly
[09:27] <cankoy> maj-cokl: it just falls back to None
[09:28] <Meowpup> hi all again i am trying to configure these apps http://www.thelinuxlink.net/l4c/programs.html so they auto run with fortune
[09:28] <tonystark> hey i had that error
[09:28] <tonystark> /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-3.5_3.5.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb
[09:28] <tonystark> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:29] <gartral> *
[09:29] <lstarnes> Meowpup: are all other fortune database files removed that do not belong to the christian fortunes?
[09:29] <tonystark> ?
[09:29] <tonystark> ?
[09:29] <lstarnes> Meowpup: simply hiding them won't work.  Moving them out of the fortunes folder will
[09:30] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: once again, patience please
[09:30] <Meowpup> LSD|Ninja: yes
[09:30] <tonystark> k
[09:30] <Meowpup> lstarnes: ^
[09:30] <Meowpup> ok
[09:30] <cankoy> tonystark: apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get -f install; apt-get upgrade
[09:30] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: is that the terminal output of the command I gave you?
[09:31] <tonystark> yeah
[09:31] <ryanc_> okay
[09:31] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: please try this command: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:31] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. wth is happening here?
[09:31] <ryanc_> why is my initramfs not finding my LVM stuff?
[09:31] <ryanc_> I can't boot :(
[09:32] <tonystark> k
[09:32] <tonystark> thats what came out
[09:32] <tonystark> dpkg: error processing ubufox (--configure):
[09:32] <tonystark>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:32] <tonystark> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:32] <tonystark>  firefox
[09:32] <tonystark>  firefox-3.5-branding
[09:32] <FloodBot2> tonystark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: please pastebin the complete output of that command on paste.ubuntu.com Give me the link after that.
[09:34] <Meowpup> ls
[09:34] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. what is happening here?
[09:34] <tonystark> i had no browser right now my firefox dosnt open
[09:35] <Meowpup> lstarnes: check this out
[09:35] <Meowpup> fortunes
[09:35] <Meowpup> fortunes.dat
[09:35] <Meowpup> fortunes.u8
[09:35] <Meowpup> kjv
[09:35] <Meowpup> kjv.dat
[09:35] <FloodBot2> Meowpup: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <Meowpup> linbread
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: pastebin
[09:35] <dutchbuntu> tonystark: oh yeah, you said that already (
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: do not directly paste text into the channel
[09:35] <adac> For some reason I do not have a bash history after a restart. Any ideas what to do?
[09:35] <tonystark> hey can i chat direct chat with u
[09:35] <tonystark> ?
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: paste to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com instead
[09:35] <tonystark> so i can paste whatever i want thier
[09:35] <tonystark> ?
[09:35] <Meowpup> ls ok i forgit about pastebin will do
[09:35] <lstarnes> Meowpup: move fortunes, fortunes.dat, and fortunes.u8 to another location
[09:35] <dutchbuntu> Okay
[09:36] <Meowpup> LSD|Ninja: ok then
[09:36] <Meowpup> ^ lstarnes
[09:37] <dto> anyone know why recordmydesktop is now compiled without jack support? this makes the audio portion break for me
[09:37] <pshr_> !LTS
[09:37] <dto> for example when using gtk-recordmydesktop
[09:39] <om26er> !enter | tonystark
[09:40] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. what is happening here?
[09:42] <spike> hi, is there a one-package solution to install all the media plugins stuff? mp3, wma, divx etc?
[09:42] <lstarnes> spike: maybe ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> !medbunti
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> !medbuntu
[09:43] <gartral> !medibuntu
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> grrr...
[09:43] <zsolt> hi there!i use wine,are windows viruses can cause damage to wine or not?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> zsolt:  if you run them with wine. in theory they can.
[09:43] <spike> thanks
[09:43] <gartral> zsolt: yes, viruses can attack a wine-enabled system
[09:43] <om26er> zsolt: no
[09:43] <lstarnes> zsolt: in theory, they can, but wine often lacks elements of windows that some viruses rely on
[09:44] <om26er> ok
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> remove the .wine dir and anything will be erased. so not too hard to remove. but it depends on what the 'virus' in wuestion is doing
[09:44] <Meowpup> i only ghet this http://imagebin.ca/view/soHHfTeg.html or this http://imagebin.ca/view/V-mp498.html
[09:44] <qp_pq> how do I uninstall gnome ?
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> Running a windows trojan in wine that deletes everything on the C: D: E: and soon.. will basiclly erase your users files.
[09:44] <qp_pq> aptitude remove gnome does not work
[09:44] <zsolt> if a virus attacks wine can destroy my linux too?
[09:44] <qp_pq> since gnome is not a package
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> qp_pq:  what doyou want to use instead?
[09:44] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: xfce or dwm
[09:44] <lstarnes> zsolt: generally, no
[09:44] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: dooesn't matter I just want gnome down
[09:45] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: how do I get i tdown ?
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> zsolt:  users home files would be at risk. but not the whole system
[09:45] <lstarnes> zsolt: especially if none of your wine drives point to other folders on the system
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> !purexfce
[09:45] <ryanc_> Why is busybox in initramfs compiled without an editor?  That is retarded.
[09:46] <om26er> Dr_Willis: i think they don't work on karmic (psychocats.net)
[09:46] <gartral> i cant get sound out of my chasis's front audio panel, nor do i have a volume controll off the right click context menu for my sound.. what is happening here?
[09:46] <zsolt> because i want to use msn messenger with wine,amsn is crap,i tried all,but only empathy works well,but sometimes I can't accept incoming calling
[09:46] <lstarnes> zsolt: what about pidgin?
[09:46] <Spixx> gartral: uninstalled some of the media components?
[09:46] <gartral> Spixx: none at all
[09:47] <Spixx> lspci | grep audio ?
[09:47] <gartral> Spixx: other than wine, lm-sensors, and kdde, it's a fresh install of 9.04
[09:47] <Meowpup> lstarnes: i only ghet this http://imagebin.ca/view/soHHfTeg.html or this http://imagebin.ca/view/V-mp498.html
[09:47] <gartral> kde*
[09:47] <zsolt> how can i configure pidgin to videocall msn contacts?
[09:47] <Spixx> ahh
[09:47] <Infin1ty> how can i tell "debuild" not to rebuild the whole source and just continue building the packages?
[09:47] <om26er> zsolt: no idon't think it does that
[09:47] <Spixx> pidgin cannot handle that at all
[09:48] <Spixx> check if there are any plugin for it though (pidgin.im)
[09:48] <zsolt> that's it why I deleted pidgin
[09:48] <lstarnes> Meowpup: can you use pastebin instead of imagebin next time?
[09:48] <qp_pq> Dr_Willis: thanks !!
[09:48] <qp_pq> :)
[09:49] <ryanc_> hah.  got the darn thing to boot
[09:49] <gartral> Infin1ty: have you read the manual/
[09:49] <lstarnes> Meowpup: do you ever get anything different?
[09:49] <kermit> ahh karmic is sticking relatime on everything, how do i get rid of this?
[09:49] <ryanc_> now how do i make it do that on it's own :p
[09:49] <Infin1ty> gartal, i tried to find one, the only thing there is was "man" but it's not so much informative
[09:49] <ryanc_> oh
[09:50] <ryanc_> but the boot process hangs
[09:50] <ryanc_> great......
[09:50] <ryanc_> how helpful.
[09:50] <gartral> Infin1ty: man debuild should have a [cryptic] explinaion of the programs function
[09:50] <om26er> !enter | ryanc_
[09:50] <suigeneris> I have a problem. I plug in my USB stick. lsusb sees it, dmesg sees it but it isn't mounted
[09:50] <Infin1ty> gartral, well, i didn't find anything in there that could help me, otherwise i would not ask in here..
[09:50] <lstarnes> Meowpup: I really have to log off right now.  I'll be back sometime tomorrow.  I will keep my irc client running so that I don't miss any private messages
[09:51] <om26er> suigeneris: format it from ubuntu and then re-insert
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> suigeneris:   ive seen others and had similer issues. with Usb sticks not getting automounted _ i could mount them by hand however with 'sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt'  Never did figrue out why the issue is there
[09:51] <suigeneris> om26er, I can't format it, there's data
[09:52] <durammx> Hi! Need some help on orthos display manager. pme
[09:52] <Spixx> Dr_Willis: maybe with the rights? are they in all the groups that are needed? HAL don't like you otherwise
[09:52] <suigeneris> Dr_Willis, it isn't assigned a device name either
[09:52] <suigeneris> eg sdb
[09:52] <Zombie> Hello?
[09:52] <Zombie> I'm getting a whole lot of these.
[09:52] <om26er> !hello | Zombie
[09:52] <Zombie>  1277.320112] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[09:52] <Zombie> [ 1277.320121] ata2.00: ST_FIRST: !(DRQ|ERR|DF)
[09:53] <Zombie> Any idea what causes them?
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> Spixx:  inmy case i could reboot/log out/in and it would auto mount them for about 4 min.. then it would stop.  I thiunk it was a gnome service crashing. but i did a new clean install.. and the issue hasent reappeared.. (could of been some update fixed it also)
[09:53] <vagothcpp> Can someone recommend me a lightwieght wm that is almost a de but also easy to modify?
[09:53] <leohartx> i need help with jdbc derby, can some one help me ?
[09:53] <Spixx> vagothcpp: blackbox, openbox?
[09:53] <muep__> vagothcpp: it depends a lot on what DE features you need
[09:53] <sjd> I tried many things, but could not boot to live mode. so not able to fix grub. any new suggestions?
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  'almost a de' - is a little.. vague. :) you could use rox-filer for your file manager/desktop icons.  + some light wwindow manager. or pcmanfm for icons/filemanager
[09:54] <Spixx> openbox is the solution ;)
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> Ive notived that rox-filer 's pinboard feature seems broken in 9.10 :(
[09:54] <vagothcpp> Spixx, I considered blackbox, have not heard of openbox, anything that is programmed in C/C++ is also great
[09:55] <yousoboil1> Hello, this is somewhat off topic, but: I did some SEO work for this company and I finished, they will pay me the rest of the money by check but I have a feeling they will do stop payment on the check. Is there some contract I can have them sign before hand so if they do bounce the check I have something to show the judge?
[09:55] <saulus> is it possible to start gpg-agent at start in Gnome?
[09:55] <sjd> any other ways to fix grub?
[09:55] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Well, GNOME is too heavy and is a DE, so not heavy in other words
[09:55] <ardchoille> vagothcpp: Openbox and windowmaker are my favorites
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  all the light DE's out there are just a light window manager + pcmanfm or rox-filere for the most part. from what ive seen
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  so try them out and see aht you like. You can roll your own
[09:56] <vagothcpp> ardchoille, Know if Openbox is programmed in C/++ or do I have to go check =P
[09:56] <lstarnes> vagothcpp: it is
[09:56] <ardchoille> vagothcpp: no idea
[09:56] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Roll my own? That sounds like it would take months
[09:56] <icedwater> vagothcpp: apt-cache show openbox might provide some details.
[09:56] <indus> yousoboil1: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  err.. for a light de - you take one window manager.. and one file manager to handle the desktop icons.. done..
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  unless theres somthing else you need it to do...
[09:57] <Infin1ty> gartral, i don't understand what i need to put after --binary-hook= for example, there's no explanation in there
[09:57] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis,  can you recommend me a window manager that I can use to do that?
[09:57] <indus> yousoboil1: also i believe, bouncing a cheque is an offence provided you are in the same country
[09:57] <icedwater> vagothcpp: I don't think Dr_Willis meant roll-your-own as in code everything from scratch :P
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  flip a coin.. theres a dozen + to choose from.
[09:57] <icedwater> indus: I find scrunched-up cheques bounce better.
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> vag any of the XXXbox, flwm, jwm, icewm,
[09:58] <indus> icedwater: yeah me too :) btw, what is scrunched up?
[09:58] <vagothcpp> I'll need to do some more research it seems
[09:58] <icedwater> For 'customisable' substitute 'barebones'
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  yes you don :)
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> do :)
[09:58] <icedwater> That's usually what it means :P
[09:58] <ardchoille> vagothcpp: I think what Dr_Willis meant was windowmaker for the wm and rox-filer for the file manager.. that's what I did and it works great
[09:58] <gartral> .last gartral
[09:58] <vagothcpp> I am making a major shift to linux, Win32 API is shitting me too much
[09:59] <icedwater> indus: when you make a paper ball out of it.
[09:59] <icedwater> What's the word you'd use for that?
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> Yea windowmaker is neat in many ways. amazing how well it works dispite its age.. it has some quirks.. but its very useable
[09:59] <indus> icedwater: :D
[09:59] <vagothcpp> icedwater, A paper mess
[09:59] <icedwater> Crushed?
[09:59] <indus> ya i got it thanks
[09:59] <indus> funny
[09:59] <icedwater> :P
[10:00] <ahvazi> Hi, has anyone else had problems with gnome not automounting ipod after upgrade to karmic?
[10:00] <qp_pq> ah how well I will feel with Xubuntu
[10:00] <kermit> how do i turn off relatime?  its set on ALL my mounts somehow
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  one 'issue' will be the menus for all the ubuntu apps. You want to have total controll of the menus ? or You want it to automatically add all the ubuntu apps like you would find in gnome
[10:00] <qp_pq> finally I'll be able to run stuff at a decent speed
[10:00] <qp_pq> :)
[10:00] <qp_pq> on my old toshiba
[10:00] <vagothcpp> Basically I don't need super heavy graphics, the less memory on my GPU/RAM the better, but still functional
[10:00] <ardchoille> fluxbox is also quite nice
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  Most any of the window managers mentioned can handle that
[10:00] <Spixx> vagothcpp: xfce?
[10:00] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Define total control
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  if you dont put an entry in your menus.. its not there. :) total control
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> many light wm's do NOT auto-add all the gnome/ubuntu menu items
[10:01] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Organize it how I wish, and control whats in there, yes
[10:01] <vagothcpp> uhm, I jus checked, I /join ##linux and i am in #ubuntu
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> untill you find  that you spend more time editing your menus.. then you do working. :)
[10:02] <vagothcpp> I'm actually going to be running debian
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> shame! :)
[10:02] <zetheroo> it really does seem on this Desktop of mine that Karmic is running very sluggish
[10:03] <courpse> is curl-php in the repo's?
[10:03] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Out of all the linux distros I have tried, save rolling my own from the GNU Kernel, Debian I am most comfortable with
[10:03] <om26er> zetheroo: type the system specs here
[10:03] <icedwater> courpse: Have you checked?
[10:03] <courpse> i cant find write string.
[10:03] <MenZa> !info php5-curl | courpse
[10:03] <icedwater> apt-cache search curl | grep php might help, I don't know.
[10:03] <courpse> ahh ta.
[10:03] <vagothcpp> I do however love Ubuntu for rearranging my hdd's xD
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> vagothcpp:  ive learned the basics.. so i can handle them all. :) ill stick with ubuntu for now. I dont have to fight with it near as much as many other disrtos
[10:03] <MenZa> courpse: for the record, that was a s simple as 'apt-cache search php curl'
[10:04] <icedwater> Ah that works too.
[10:04] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: well said
[10:04] <zetheroo> om26er: I don't think its the system specs per se ..    Win7-home-basic or win7-home-premium-ultra or win7-ultra-home-basic-premium-business
[10:05] <om26er> zetheroo: which driver version
[10:05] <ageeb> qp_pq, relax
[10:05] <qp_pq> I don't think it's fair for my OS to have so many unshared secrets with me
[10:05] <zetheroo> om26er: don't know
[10:05] <qp_pq> I don't like
[10:05] <qp_pq> it
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> or win7-uber-ultra-spiffy-ultimate-basic-light-
[10:05] <vagothcpp> Dr_Willis, Thats not really a choice
[10:05] <Vinceman> how can you find out which compiler was used to install your kernel?
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:05] <ageeb> qp_pq, don't like what?
[10:06] <vagothcpp> And I chose win7-ultimate if you must know, im still unhappy with it
[10:06] <lstarnes> qp_pq: doesn't windows do the same thing?
[10:06] <tsimpson> Vinceman: cat /proc/version
[10:06] <sjd> ?
[10:06] <qp_pq> will debian have so many stupid packages ?
[10:06] <sjd> ?
[10:06] <qp_pq> did I ask for fucking brasero ?
[10:07] <om26er> zetheroo: just tell me which nvidia card?
[10:07] <qp_pq> why the fuck do I get brasero
[10:07] <icedwater> qp_pq: If you know enough, you can remove the packages you don't want.
[10:07] <tsimpson> !language | qp_pq
[10:07] <icedwater> Like so:
[10:07] <sjd> any clue?
[10:07] <dangerx89> ciao
[10:07] <dangerx89> #pr1v3
[10:07] <icedwater> sudo apt-get remove language-en-vulgarity-#ubuntu
[10:07] <zetheroo> om26er: its onboard ... let me check
[10:07] <vagothcpp> !troll
[10:07] <indus> qp_pq: sudo apt-get install brasero
[10:07] <vagothcpp> ?
[10:07] <MenZa> dangerx89: Please don't advertise that here.
[10:07] <qp_pq> ubottu: I'm just saying whoever decides what packages should go in default install should remove all these meaningless packages, why do yo I want brasero ?!
[10:07] <om26er> indus: sudo apt-get purge brasero
[10:07] <qp_pq> indus: remove maybe
[10:08] <zetheroo> om26er: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[10:08] <indus> qp_pq: oh remove yeah apt-get purge
[10:08] <vagothcpp> sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sda3 copies everything from partition sda2 to sda3 correct?
[10:08] <tsimpson> qp_pq: brasero is a CD/DVD burning app
[10:08] <icedwater> sjd: It might help if you actually had a question to ask ...
[10:08] <MenZa> vagothcpp: should do, yes.
[10:08] <lstarnes> qp_pq: sudo aptitude purge brasero
[10:08] <indus> qp_pq: its for burning cds
[10:08] <qp_pq> yeah cool I don't need it
[10:08] <tsimpson> so remove it
[10:08] <indus> qp_pq: why dont you need it?
[10:08] <qp_pq> I never heard of it
[10:08] <qp_pq> because I don't write friggin cds
[10:09] <Vinceman> v4l2 has been installed on my computer, how do I remove it? (it wasn't installed with synaptic)
[10:09] <icedwater> Been scrolling up a bit and I didn't see a question, only two question marks and a 'any clue?'
[10:09] <tsimpson> qp_pq: many people do, and expect an app to be installed
[10:09] <vagothcpp> MenZa, Okay, great, I am an organizational nut, Even the order of my HDD bugs me if its wrong
[10:09] <indus> qp_pq: ok then remove it, the packages are determined from what a broader range of users will use
[10:09] <qp_pq> not me
[10:09] <iceroot> how to check in realtime if a file was added in a specific folder?
[10:09] <lstarnes> qp_pq: it's not designed for you
[10:09]  * icedwater nods at tsimpson.
[10:09] <MenZa> vagothcpp: hehe
[10:09] <sjd> icedwater: i have been here for the past 3-4 hours. I need to fix my grub after installing windows. but im not able to boot into live mode. as Im stuck at some iniramfs prompt
[10:09] <lstarnes> qp_pq: it's designed for average users
[10:09] <qp_pq> aaah
[10:09] <qp_pq> xubuntu
[10:09] <icedwater> qp_pq: But you can design it for yourself.
[10:09] <lstarnes> qp_pq: xubuntu may have it too
[10:09] <icedwater> Ah, sjd.
[10:09] <tsimpson> qp_pq: even xubuntu has a CD/DVD burning app by default
[10:09] <vagothcpp> MenZa, Like how windows deleted my GRUB partition and made it some system reserved crap, ILL SHOW THEM!
[10:09] <tsimpson> most OSs do
[10:09] <icedwater> So you got past the grub screen?
[10:09] <om26er> !pm | zetheroo
[10:09] <MenZa> vagothcpp: Just, make sure neither of the filesystems are mounted.
[10:10] <MenZa> Or you might get into a wee bit of trouble.
[10:10] <MenZa> (Read: explosions and fire)
[10:10] <vagothcpp> MenZa, Heh, yeh, did that once, lost all my personal data...
[10:10] <zetheroo> om26er: huh?
[10:10] <ageeb> qp_pq, i haven't found a mainstream distro that doesn't have a cd burning app installed by default
[10:10] <icedwater> sjd: Unfortunately I can't stay enough to help, but I just wanted to see that you had a question. :)
[10:10] <icedwater> I gotta run for classes.
[10:10] <zetheroo> om26er: I never pm'ed you
[10:10] <sjd> icedwater: grub screen? I lost grub when i installed Windows. but I have upgraded Karmic on the other HDD
[10:10] <icedwater> Can anyone help out sjd?
[10:10] <vagothcpp> Whats the command to poll dd for its status? sudo kill -SIG_USR1 <pid>?
[10:10] <icedwater> sjd: Hm ... how is it you're getting an initramfs screen, though?
[10:11] <sjd> icedwater: God knows!
[10:11] <ct529> hi there!
[10:11] <Vinceman> is there no way to cleanly uninstall software which wasn't installed with synaptic?
[10:11] <ct529> I have to download a video from a videocast that is in iTune format .... what application can I use?
[10:12] <sjd> please I need to fix grub somehow. this is really important. please help
[10:12] <icedwater> sjd: Maybe get a live CD, boot from that, and try grub-install on the correct partition?
[10:12] <ageeb> ct529, what's itune format? quicktime?
[10:12] <sjd> icedwater: yes, i tried more than 3 live cd's. they are taking me to the initramfs prompt.
[10:12] <icedwater> sjd: Which live CDs?
[10:13] <sjd> icedwater: jaunty
[10:13] <icedwater> sjd: I used to have similar problems trying to install jaunty, hardy and intrepid on my current laptop.
[10:13] <icedwater> sjd: Try burning a karmic one, that should work fine.
[10:13] <sjd> icedwater: but Karmic wont help me to fix grub1
[10:13] <ct529> ageeb: well, belss be if I know .... they say itune format .... I have never used itune in my whole life, do not even know what it is ....
[10:13] <icedwater> How is it you're on IRC, though, sjd?
[10:14] <ct529> ageeb: I use amarok
[10:14] <icedwater> sjd: That is a good point. Consider Parted-Magic, then.
[10:14] <sjd> icedwater: I can boot to windows. but I hate this really.
[10:14] <icedwater> sjd: I used that to tweak my partitions before.
[10:14] <sjd> icedwater: Parted-magic?
[10:14] <ageeb> ct529, have you downloaded the file yet?
[10:14] <icedwater> sjd: Though it's debatable whether that was the cause of my current partition table problem. :P
[10:15] <sjd> icedwater: so what do you suggest ?
[10:15] <icedwater> sjd: Yeah, I think it has some rescue functionality too, like Super Grub Disk. Though I didn't get very far with that, personally.
[10:15] <d9500> Vinceman, yes, but depending on how it was installed, the process can be fairly easy, or time-consuming. how did you install it? .deb file? build from source?
[10:15] <ct529> ageeb: nope, because the browser says "protocol not recognise"
[10:16] <sjd> icedwater: i had given a try with Super Grub disk. but that too got stuck somwhere.
[10:16] <ct529> ageeb: nope, because the browser says "protocol not recognised", sorry
[10:16] <icedwater> sjd: I suppose get the USB image of parted magic, copy it to USB, follow the instructions in the readme to make it bootable (one command)
[10:16] <vagothcpp> I am glad I installed a cat5 cable through my roof, my wireless card was bugging the shit out of me
[10:16] <sjd> icedwater: let me try
[10:16] <MenZa> !language | vagothcpp
[10:16] <icedwater> sjd: Then boot Parted magic and go to a console
[10:16] <sjd> icedwater: hmm
[10:16] <vagothcpp> bugging the s**t out of me ^
[10:16] <ageeb> ct529, can you pm me the link?
[10:16] <icedwater> sjd: In the console, sudo chroot to the existing partition where grub is, then do a grub-install
[10:17] <icedwater> sjd: That's what worked for my case, though it was a relatively simple error 17 with grub.
[10:17] <Vinceman> d9500 I don't remember exactly
[10:17] <icedwater> Did you get any sort of error code?
[10:17] <icedwater> sjd: You can search for the grub error code you got, too.
[10:17] <vagothcpp> OH GOD, at 5MB/s this dd of 138GiB is going to take forever
[10:17] <sjd> icedwater: I simply lost the grub as I installed windows after ubuntu.
[10:18] <icedwater> Apparently 15 and 17 are easy to resolve. Oh, it was eaten, huh.
[10:18] <sjd> icedwater: grub is not live, to give a code
[10:18] <sjd> icedwater: yeah
[10:18] <Vinceman> d9500 I installed it from here:  http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers
[10:18] <icedwater> sjd: Well, this is a first: grub has been eaten by a grue.
[10:18] <icedwater> Heh.
[10:18] <sjd> icedwater: this is obvious that when we install windows after Ubuntu, grub would be lost.
[10:19] <icedwater> sjd: So try parted-magic -> USB-boot -> chroot -> grub-install /dev/sda0 or something.
[10:19] <ct529> ageeb: of course
[10:19] <sjd> icedwater: okay.
[10:19] <icedwater> sjd: Yes, it is, you're right. But I haven't done that in a while now.
[10:19] <sjd> icedwater: :)
[10:19] <ardchoille> !nick | meff
[10:19] <plitter> this is probably a stupid question but i cant figure out how to play podcast on amarok, i can subscribe but dont know where to find them and can put them in a playlist but nothing happens when i do the double click
[10:20] <d9500> Vinceman, looks like it was built from source, so there won't be a listing that synaptic, aptitude, or dpkg can use. do you still have the tarball that the source came compressed in?
[10:20] <om26er> !register
[10:20] <icedwater> sjd: Also, /dev/sda or /dev/hda to install that to the main master boot records ... should work better than /dev/sda1 etc
[10:20] <icedwater> I should leave now before it's too late .... :P
[10:20] <sjd> icedwater: okay.
[10:20] <naftilos76> hi everyone - I cannot redirect an audio stream using pulse to a different target with 9.10! Instead, i could do that with 9.04! Where has that option gone?
[10:21] <Vinceman> d9500 I can download it again from the site
[10:21] <Vinceman> d9500: in the future, it really is best to only install with synaptic, isn't it?
[10:22] <kazoo> Hello, How do i restart OpenSSH?
[10:22] <d9500> Vinceman, yes or use a .deb file. packages installed from .deb files, i think, have to be installed using dpg from the command line, but it still beats trying to get rid of files installed from source.
[10:22] <Spixx> kazoo: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:23] <Vinceman> d9500: so if I know from what tarball I installed it, how do I uninstall?
[10:23] <d9500> Vinceman, the reason i asked about the tarball was that i didn't see any instructions to run ./configure prior to make to create a makefile. i'm assuming therefore there was a makefile in there, hopefully.
[10:24] <d9500> Vinceman, if there was, then download the tarball, extract to the same directory that you originally extracted to before compiling, cd to that directory in terminal, and run sudo make uninstall.
[10:24] <Vinceman> d9500 ok, thx
[10:24] <vince> my life was change when im install the first ubuntu on my desktop
[10:24] <vince> :)
[10:24] <vince> i love it
[10:25] <Jimi_Neutral> is anyone having toruble wiht clonezilla in karmic?
[10:25] <Jimi_Neutral> scuse my typing
[10:25] <vince> Jimi_Neutral:  i never had problem in karmic
[10:25] <Jimi_Neutral> vince, it is stopping on a message saying let original init take over
[10:26] <vince> Jimi_Neutral:  i never use clonezilla
[10:26] <Jimi_Neutral> vince?
[10:26] <d9500> Vinceman, if that does not work, then the link you sent me lists what directory it installed the files to. back them up to somewhere else and them either use rm to remove the files, or open nautilus w/ root priveilges (gksudo nautilus) browse to the directory the files are in, and send them to the trash.
[10:26] <ageeb> Dr_Willis, you around?
[10:26] <kermit> i just upgraded to karmic, and rsyslogd is eating all the cpu for the first time
[10:27] <d9500> open nautilus w/ root priveliges*  sorry for the typo
[10:27] <plitter> this is probably a stupid question but i cant figure out how to play podcast on amarok, i can subscribe but dont know where to find them and can put them in a playlist but nothing happens when i do the double click
[10:27] <vince> whats the channel for french user who know ?
[10:28] <ct529> question for the supergurus out there .... how do you stream from an itune repository of videos in ubuntu?
[10:28] <ardchoille> !fr
[10:28] <vince> thanks men :)
[10:29] <isolated>  /set gui_usermenu ON
[10:31] <d9500> Vinceman, for example,  /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media directory. you will need to know the name of the .ko file you want to delete, and again, back up any files before you delete them in case you delete the wrong thing and need to restore it later.
[10:32] <_ged> hi, is it possible to include an action on a shell script wherein on that action, it will send an email to someone...
[10:32] <Jimi_Neutral> i just found a post that says karmic fails with clonezilla because of karmics boot scripts....it says to try debian 5.0.3...is that a whole new system?
[10:32] <iscape> hello, how can one deactivate the desktop on the ubuntu remix? (very slow on my old laptop)
[10:32] <Vinceman> d9500 this whole operation is rather dangerous, isn't it?
[10:33] <renee> I'm trying to re-re-re-brand Shiretoko. I can't remember the how to get to the user-agent strings via the browser. Does anyone know?
[10:34] <Jimi_Neutral> can i roll back to jaunty?
[10:34] <Vinceman> d9500 I can't undo all the commands on the webpage one by one.. but I can undo the first one I think
[10:34] <d9500> Vinceman, only if you delete the wrong thing. even then, if you made a backup, you can pop in a live cd, wait for it to boot up and get you to a gui, then mount the drive for your install (ubuntu live cd lets you mount in one click by clicking in xx GB hard disk" icon in "Places") and copy the deleted file/s back over.
[10:35] <vagothcpp> When I was installing flash player, i get "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'", what does this mean?
[10:35] <d9500> Vinceman, try download/extract tarball, cd to the extracted files directory, then sudo make uninstall first. it avoids having to manually delete files. Only do the manual delete if that does not work
[10:36] <Spixx> vagothcpp: are you running a 64bit version?
[10:36] <vagothcpp> Spixx, Indeed
[10:36] <Spixx> then you need to use the 64bit version of the flash installer
[10:36] <Spixx> if you got it from their site that is
[10:37] <Sincere> how can i check whether my machine is 32 bit or 64bit?
[10:37] <Vinceman> d9500 does the tarball have to be in the same directory it was installed from?
[10:37] <vagothcpp> Found it xD
[10:37] <Spixx> check the version number?
[10:37] <Sincere> command?
[10:37] <dutchbuntu> Sincere: depends on your CPU. What CPU do you have?
[10:38] <Spixx> I was close to saying rm -rf :P but try and google it first cause I don't know
[10:38] <dutchbuntu> Sincere: you can check the installed version by running 'uname -a' (w/o the quotes)
[10:38] <Spixx> Don't you remeber from the install
[10:38] <Jimi_Neutral> is it possible to roll back to a previous flavour of ubuntu
[10:38] <vagothcpp> Were do I install the .so for firefox?
[10:38] <Spixx> :/
[10:38] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: It didn't used to be possible, not sure if that's changed in karmic
[10:38] <Sincere> Spixx: i dint remember
[10:38] <dutchbuntu> Jimi_Neutral: not afaik
[10:39] <MenZa> vagothcpp: ~/.mozilla/plugins, iirc.
[10:39] <Spixx> vagothcpp: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[10:39] <Jimi_Neutral> ok thanks guys
[10:39] <Sincere> 2.6.30-02063003-generic #02063003 SMP Sat Jul 25 10:57:13 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux..does this mean 32 bit or 64bit?
[10:39] <MenZa> 32-bit, Sincere
[10:39] <Spixx> 32
[10:39] <dutchbuntu> Sincere: 32-bit (because of generic)
[10:40] <MenZa> dutchbuntu: erm, no
[10:40] <MenZa> Linux dantooine 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:40] <vagothcpp> One thing i can say that is good about ubuntu is the community is generally nicer
[10:40] <MenZa> A 64-bit example. The architecture is set to x86_64, Sincere
[10:40] <Spixx> ;) whyso no rm -rf stuff :D
[10:40] <Jimi_Neutral> shall i reinstall or put a post on the fourms about clonezilla not working in karmic properly cause of the boots scripts (apparently) and which forum should i put it on
[10:40] <dutchbuntu> MenZa: my bad
[10:40] <MenZa> dutchbuntu: no problem :)
[10:40] <d9500> Vinceman, ideally yes. not exactly sure why. i remember reading something about "makepath' which I presume is the path (/path/to/directory) that the original source was built and installed from. on that, i could be wrong.
[10:41] <Spixx> Jimi_Neutral: doesnt ubuntu give you a bugg report thingy?
[10:41] <dell_> lol NEWBIES!
[10:41] <dell_> nix newbs
[10:41] <Jimi_Neutral> Spixx, dunno, im not that long a user
[10:41] <dell_> VASSUP
[10:41] <Spixx> Jimi_Neutral: do you get any error msg at all?
[10:42] <Spixx> where does they occur? check in /var/log/* ?
[10:42] <dell_> Jimi
[10:42] <dell_> whats the problem
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> Spixx, no, it just hangs on "Let original init take over"
[10:42] <Vinceman> d9500 does the hg clone command copy a tarball from the web to your harddisk?
[10:42] <d9500> Vinceman, if you plan on doing a lot of compiles from source, it might be a good idea to build a /src or /sourcecode directory inside your /home/yourusername directory, then extract all your tarballs there before building. i wish i'd thought of that back when i tried to build the nouveau driver for my nvidia card a few months back.
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> clonezilla hangs on "let original init take over"
[10:43] <dell_> give me a couple lines before
[10:43] <d9500> Vinceman, you're talking about mercurial there. which unfortunately, i'm not familiar with. if it's anything like git, which uses git clone to obtain source files, then yes, i would presume it does
[10:43] <Jimi_Neutral> dell, ok one sec
[10:45] <eid> i need to know how to install programs on linux ubuntu?
[10:45] <sjgdfg> eid Software Center?
[10:45] <sjgdfg> eid, Software Center
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> dell_, creating one time_tine_use dir..../opt/drbl....done! Try to remove nosharecache in /etc/fstab.... Done. NFS-root directories are mounted.
[10:46] <d_rwi1> eid: apt-get install *
[10:46] <dutchbuntu> eid: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> dell_, and then the nex tone is "Let original init take over"
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> i saw somewhee online that soneone said it was cause of karics boot scripts
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg: i know but i have an external program i downloaded form the internet
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg:how can i ?
[10:47] <tishikawa1> eid what program?
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg: for example
[10:47] <eid> sjgdfg: komodo edit
[10:47] <tishikawa1> eid: if they supplied an ubuntu .deb file, just double click it
[10:47] <sjgdfg> eid, if it's not compiled just double click it or run it by ./(program name)
[10:48] <eid> ok i will try it thanx guys
[10:48] <d_rwi1> my fluxbox menu is reverting to the previous settings
[10:48] <dutchbuntu> eid: http://usefulubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/03/installing-komodo-edit-5.html
[10:48] <Spixx> eid: don't forgett that you need to make it executable to chmod +x ./program
[10:49] <Vinceman> d9500, I get this error when trying to uninstall: http://paste.ubuntu.com/319916/  I guess i'llh ave to manually delete, right?
[10:49] <eid> spixx:  what is the chmod +x
[10:50] <d_rwi1> ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[10:50] <Vinceman> eid it sets execution rights to your file
[10:50] <Spixx> if you have a script or program you need to make it executable otherwise it wont work
[10:50] <Spixx> cya
[10:51] <d_rwi1> eid: it will change the file pemission to x(executable)
[10:51] <eid> vinceman mmm
[10:51] <d9500> Vinceman, is there a plain text file labeled "makefile" in the uncompressed tarball's directory? if not, then you may be able to create one by cd'ing to the directory and running ./configure. otherwise, yes, you will need to manually uninstall.
[10:51] <mataks> help pls.. i just bought an external sound card because my internal soundcard is not working.. how can i change the settings to use the external soundcard?
[10:51] <d_rwi1> ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[10:51] <d9500> at least, i think that would create a makefile. i'm not too up-to-date on compiling
[10:53] <Vinceman> d9500 there is a makefile
[10:53] <Vinceman> d9500 so I will have to manually uninstall :(
[10:54] <eyalw> Hi, im doing some OS homework, i have a select() system call with one socket fd im listening to, and i get a -1 return value from time to time, but too often, what should i do, what does it mean?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Vinceman:  if you are lucky a 'sudo make uninstll' may work
[10:54] <bigbrovar> .
[10:54] <d9500> Vinceman, then maybe the makefile doesn't include a script to uninstall? i've had that happen with gnome-menu before, trying to remove it after a compile from source. looks like manual may be the only way to do it.
[10:54] <d_rwi1> ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu after some days, how to make it permanent(redirected here)
[10:54] <MenZa> !ot | eyalw
[10:54] <d9500> Dr_Willis, he did sudo make uninstall. see the pastebin
[10:55] <unimatrix> !kms
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> d9500:  one reason to use those auto-deb commands. :) i guess
[10:55] <Vinceman> d9500 but there's no list of files and where they're installed
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Vinceman:  rerun make install and watch install  where it install stuff? :)  many times things are set to install to  /usr/local or /opt/ by default - makes cleaning them out easier
[10:56] <Vinceman> ok
[10:57] <d9500> Vinceman, unless the documenatation you sent me earlier was wrong, it said the module/s would be in  /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media
[10:57] <akyapt> can any 1 tell me   is it  possible to get the deleted data?
[10:57] <mataks_> help pls.. i just bought an external sound card because my internal soundcard is not working.. how can i change the settings to use the external soundcard?
[10:57] <Vinceman> Dr_Willis, this is a lot of work though
[10:57] <Vinceman> a good programmer will have made an uninstall feature
[10:58] <cutout> Am having trouble connecting to windows VPN on 9.10 it worked fine on 9.04, here is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/319922/
[10:59] <cutout> can anyone help me?
[10:59] <d9500> Vinceman, yes, it's a hassle. using synaptic or aptitude is much easier. you can use checkinstall for source builds though, if you need something for which there is no .deb file.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[10:59] <d_rwi1> ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu after soem days, how to make it permanent(redirected)
[11:00] <J13R> quick question: is bash shipped with ubuntu by default or just dash?
[11:00] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: how did you delete data?
[11:00] <dutchbuntu> J13R: bash=default
[11:00] <akyapt> dutchbuntu:shift+del
[11:00] <Vinceman> d9500: so you have tar files, deb files and synaptic.. any other ways of installing stuff?
[11:00] <Vinceman> probably more, there have to be
[11:00] <ecto> hello everybody!
[11:00] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: thats permanently gone
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Bash is the default USER shell.. dash is the default system shell J13R
[11:01] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: unless you have a backup, there is no way of restoring
[11:01] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: what kind of back up
[11:01] <mataks_> help pls.. i just bought an external sound card because my internal soundcard is not working.. how can i change the settings to use the external soundcard?
[11:01] <ecto> can someone help me i'm trying to install ubuntu server and when i select 'install ubuntu server' it brings up a dialog box with the word install and an ok button, and you select that and it returns to the menu
[11:01] <tamir> hi
[11:01] <Vinceman> are there many children here?
[11:01] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: USB flash drive, CD/DVD, second HDD... any manually created backup
[11:01] <cutout> what about vpn?
[11:01] <tamir> hkh
[11:02] <tamir> hi
[11:02] <tamir> hey what s up all
[11:02] <d9500> Vinceman, standalone installs. those are tarballs that extract to a directory with a binary and all the libraries that it needs to run. for example, mozilla's beta builds of firefox for linuxthat you download from their website are standalone installs, if i recall correctly
[11:02] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: ohh......that kind of ...no other way of getting ?
[11:02] <J13R> Dr_Willis: thanks
[11:02] <ecto> can anyone help ?
[11:03] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: no. why did you use shift+del in the first place?
[11:03] <d_rwi1> ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[11:04] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: coz in windows theres 1 software by wich we can get the data deleted permanently........i thought itll be there in ubuntu .
[11:04] <kermit> i just upgraded to karmic and it's turning off my display after just 1 minute of idle.. i dont have it set in the power options though, where can i stop that?
[11:04] <spike> hi, I've followed the restricted format page and installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. I've also followed the one me medibuntu and installed w32codes, but Is till can't play wma files with totem
[11:04] <spike> VLC plays the files but I get no sound
[11:04] <lobi_> hello i have ubuntu 9.04 (64-bit) i use this script to convert video http://exposureroom.com/members/Georg.aspx/tutorials/post/77/  . i get error Unknown encoder 'libx264'
[11:04] <d9500> Vinceman, the hierarchy of preference is as follows 1) available in synaptic or by running aptitude install [package] from command line, 2) available as a .deb file that you can double-click to install, 3) available as a standalone install, 4) available as a fedora .rpm that you can convert to a deb with alien. 5) source code. the last one can be a nuisance if the distributor doesn't provide proper uninstall scripts.
[11:04] <spike> totem complains about decoding failing
[11:04] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: i was deleting some other file but by mistake my ppt got deleted
[11:04] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: ubuntu != windows. In Ubuntu, gone=gone
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> !undelete
[11:05] <akyapt> dutchbuntu: lol ...thanks
[11:05] <d9500> Vinceman, at least that's how i see it, in order of least hassle to most.
[11:05] <dutchbuntu> akyapt: np
[11:06] <d_rwi1> ubuntu 8.04 is reverting the fluxbox-menu, how to make it permanent
[11:07] <Vinceman> d9500 let me write this down
[11:07] <demonbell> !torrents
[11:07] <kubanc> if i try to in windows xp shared folder from ubuntu computer i need to type username and password? what username and password must I type ?
[11:08] <d_rwi1> !fluxbox-menu
[11:08] <tstebut> gic
[11:08] <dutchbuntu> d_rwi1: maybe you have more luck in #fluxbox
[11:08] <tstebut> hello
[11:08] <eberry> Hello, I installed Karmic Koala, and I am having trouble with my clock.  Am I in the right place to talk to an expert and find a solution?
[11:08] <Vinceman> d9500 normally speaking it shouldn't be a huge problem if there's a couple of unused files on your harddisk somewhere, right?
[11:08] <ardchoille> eberry: you're in the right place
[11:08] <dutchbuntu> !ask | eberry
[11:08] <eberry> Thanks, ubottu and archoille
[11:08] <d9500> Vinceman, no need to write it down. just bookmark http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware  there's a more detailed explanation of that hierarchy there.
[11:09] <d9500> Vinceman, as for the used files, no, unless they're modules that are being loaded at startup that you don't want loaded (old drivers, etc.)
[11:09] <d9500> unused files*
[11:09] <d_rwi1> dutchbuntu, they redirected me here
[11:09] <Vinceman> ok, i gtg
[11:10] <Blizzerand_> !jigdo
[11:10] <kubanc> if i try to in windows xp shared folder from ubuntu computer i need to type username and password? what username and password must I type ?
[11:10] <Rupp> General linux question here. Can I delete everything from a borked install except the grub and use it for frugal install? I am using the grub right now but didn't know if I could do that
[11:10] <eberry> I am dual-booting Karmic Koala and Windows XP.  I live in the Central Europe time zone.  The time on the gnome applet reads "11:10", but it is actually 12:10.
[11:10] <Marxisme> hi guys
[11:11] <noneNN> when is kernel 2.6.32 goin to be available for karmic?
[11:11] <erUSUL> noneNN: never;
[11:11] <erUSUL> !latest | noneNN
[11:11] <Marxisme> I have a problem with the ssh tunnel, ssh -D port<EMAIL_ADDRESS>channel 4: open failed: administratively prohibited, can someone help me ?
[11:11] <boblesax31> bonjour
[11:11] <dutchbuntu> eberry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[11:11] <noneNN> erUSUL, never? how come?
[11:12] <eberry> Hi dutchbuntu.  I have been to this page without success.
[11:12] <ardchoille> noneNN: ubottu explained it
[11:12] <erUSUL> noneNN: read what ubottu told you
[11:12] <Marxisme> boblesax31: /j #ubuntu-fr ;)
[11:12] <boblesax31> je me trouve en france
[11:12] <wolf89> hi guys!
[11:12] <Marxisme> boblesax31: va sur le canal #ubuntu-fr
[11:12] <d9500> noneNN, already available. https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[11:12] <wolf89> i've got a problem with pidgin..
[11:12] <noneNN> i know but not in repos
[11:12] <d9500> noneNN, download the relevant .deb files and click to install.
[11:12] <Marxisme> I have a problem with the ssh tunnel, ssh -D port<EMAIL_ADDRESS>channel 4: open failed: administratively prohibited, can someone help me ?
[11:13] <wolf89> i've tried to install it, but it tells me that there are not safe components..
[11:13] <Marxisme> please
[11:13] <wolf89> help?
[11:13] <d9500> noneNN, no, nor will it be. ubuntu keeps the same kernel version across a given release.
[11:13] <wolf89> ho can i install it?
[11:13] <boblesax31> oki
[11:13] <dutchbuntu> eberry: so you set up your time zone correctly?
[11:13] <eberry> dutchbuntu: yes, using the instructions on the UbuntuTime page
[11:13] <schwezzy> did you account for daylight savings
[11:14] <noneNN> i think they should put .32 on the repos, make a huge difference for people who uses intel gma video card
[11:14] <eberry> schwezzy: how do I account for daylight savings?
[11:14] <MenZa> noneNN: Suggest it in #ubuntu-motu, then.
[11:14] <Marxisme> nobody ?
[11:14] <schwezzy> eberry: go to the next timezone
[11:14] <frogzoo> eberry: typically, set your time zone correctly
[11:14] <frogzoo> and ubuntu calculate DST for you
[11:14] <eberry> schwezzy: that doesn't sound right
[11:15] <erUSUL> noneNN: .32 has not even been released by kernel.org is rc7 at the moment...
[11:15] <eberry> frogzoo: I think my timezone is set correctly
[11:15] <frogzoo> eberry: what's your TZ?
[11:15] <MenZa> noneNN: If what erUSUL says is correct, then don't bother - RC kernels will not be packaged.
[11:15] <eberry> frogzoo: Central Europe
[11:15] <schwezzy> if for whatever reason it's not calculating correctly, make the correction yourself
[11:15] <MenZa> eberry: I run CET with no problem; automagically adjusts DST and such as well.
[11:15] <frogzoo> eberry: the it will probably just work
[11:15] <noneNN> what is motu?
[11:15] <MenZa> !motu > noneNN
[11:15] <noneNN> i mean whats that channel?
[11:15] <eberry> MenZa: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:16] <MenZa> eberry: Karmic, 9.10.
[11:16] <d9500> noneNN, kernel upgrades can also break things. like binary drivers (ahem, nvidia comes to mind.) putting in repo would automatically install it when update-manager detected it as a newer version. i don't think the ubuntu maintainers wwant to have entire kernel upgrades with the potential to have to reload 1) binary modules that cannot be distributed in kernel, and 2) any manually compiled modules a user has made.
[11:16] <MenZa> But it has been since 5.10 :)
[11:16] <eberry> MenZa: I just had this problem when I updated to Karmic (9.10)
[11:16] <MenZa> eberry: Could your BIOS clock be screwing up stuff?
[11:16] <eberry> MenZa: How would I know?
[11:17] <MenZa> eberry: Hm, could you outline the problem exactly, again? I didn't catch the first part.
[11:17] <schwezzy> restart your computer and follow the prompt to get to bios
[11:17] <eberry> I'll restate my problem
[11:17] <schwezzy> generally f2 or del
[11:17] <MenZa> Excellent.
[11:17] <qp_pq> wow I cannot believe how much stuff I have to remove
[11:17] <qp_pq> from my ubuntu
[11:17] <qp_pq> to make it run decent
[11:17] <qp_pq> I'm switching to gentoo I guess
[11:18] <erUSUL> qp_pq: good luck and farewell then
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> qp_pq:  have fun.. bye...
[11:18] <noneNN> for regular users i think, it would make a big difference, i dont do that stuff i mean modules?... kernel 2.6.32 is a nice upgrade
[11:18] <dutchbuntu> qp_pq: happy gentoo-ing then
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> by the time i got my gentoo box updated.. new updates were out...
[11:19] <d9500> noneNN, if you just need newer intel gma video card drivers, there's probably a ppa for that
[11:19] <qp_pq> dutchbuntu: :P
[11:19] <GIR7590> Hey all, stupid question, but I find myself having to install SDL dev libs a lot on random computers and during reinstalls, and I was wondering if there was a way to install all of them simutaneously. I really dislike having to apt-cache SDL and pick out the dev libs all the time...
[11:19] <eberry> I have just updated from Jaunty to Karmic.  Now the clock in my GNOME applet reads one hour earlier than it should.  I am in Central European time, and the time here is 12:18, but the time in the applet reads 11:18.  Furthermore, when I type "sudo hwclock --show" in the command line, it returns a time that is too early by one hour.   And here none has the power to change that so take the "petition" to launchpad or another channel
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> GIR7590:  apt-get supports wildcards I recall..  :) or make a script that installs teh ones you need.
[11:19] <noneNN> d9500, im using xorg edgers, but the difference came with kernel 2.6.32
[11:19] <qp_pq> GIR7590: scp to all , ssh to all aptitude install , or make some Perl script using Expect.pm to automate the install
[11:19] <noneNN> i tell you, its HUGE difference
[11:20] <MenZa> eberry: Humm, sounds weird. Could you try installing ntpdate and do 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'?
[11:20] <kleftisx> hello, i have a question: I have already installed to my pc XP and windows7 but i want to make a triple boot with ubuntu 9.10 without formating the disk. what kind of partition i must to do? and to be able to see the grub menu?
[11:20] <MenZa> noneNN: What erUSUL said. Please stop.
[11:20] <FedoRules> Join Fedora Noob !
[11:20] <MenZa> FedoRules: How about no. Please stop spamming the channel.
[11:20] <eberry> MenZa: 16 Nov 11:20:17 ntpdate[3321]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[11:20] <qp_pq> FedoRules: where did you come out all of a sudden ?
[11:20] <GIR7590> Cool. I didn't know it accepted wildcards, thanks all. :D
[11:20] <MenZa> eberry: Humm.
[11:20] <FedoRules> ok
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> kleftisx:  linux will want a ext2/3/4 parrtiion.  You will need to resize or some how free up some drive space for linux to inssrtall to
[11:21] <kleftisx> Dr_Willis : i will also need a swap space right?
[11:21] <mr_boo> how do i enable the fglrx proprietary driver in karmic?
[11:21] <MenZa> eberry: Try going to System → Administration → Time and Date. What is 'Configuration' set to?
[11:21] <erUSUL> mr_boo: System>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[11:22] <aperson> I don't have a system bell, is there a replacement for watch -b ?
[11:22] <mr_boo> erUSUL: it won't take affect
[11:22] <eberry> MenZa: "Keep synchronized with Internet servers"
[11:22] <MenZa> eberry: And what server is it set to?
[11:22] <d9500> noneNN, you got the new kernel installed, right? as much as i agree that having the kernel available wouldbe nice, the ubuntu team has decided not to. generally, i think the idea is that if you're able to figure out you need a new kernel for the included modules, you should be able to figure out how to download and click a .deb file. ubuntu tries to strike a balance between stable but older (debian for instance) and bleeding edge (gentoo for example). i
[11:22] <d9500> f you want bleeeding edge, try arch or fedora)
[11:22] <eberry> One in Switzerland, one in Illinois (UIUC), and one in New York (Cornell)
[11:22] <erUSUL> !ati | mr_boo read about alternative methods
[11:22] <Zeo> -hub.eu.trsohbet.com
[11:22] <MenZa> eberry: Try unticking all of them, and adding 'pool.ntp.org'
[11:23] <mr_boo> erUSUL: thanks
[11:23] <MenZa> eberry: It seems like a really odd issue. I'm just stumbling in the dark here, but hey, it's worth a shot.
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> kleftisx:  a swap partition is normally needed also yes
[11:23] <MenZa> it's what I synchronise with.
[11:23] <eberry> MenZa: I've made the change.  How do I get the clock to sync?
[11:24] <MenZa> eberry: Good question.
[11:24] <MenZa> eberry: Out of curiosity, have you set any Locations in the clock applet?
[11:25] <eberry> MenZa: Many
[11:25] <MenZa> eberry: Hmm, any of them being in the UK?
[11:25] <eberry> MenZa: No
[11:25]  * MenZa boggles.
[11:25] <eberry> MenZa: One is set for "GMT"
[11:25] <MenZa> Ah.
[11:26] <MenZa> I can't say I've ever seen this issue before - it seems weird. Could you check your BIOS clock? I.e. restart your computer, then follow the prompt to load your BIOS (normally del, F2, or F12)
[11:26] <MenZa> Because that might be conflicting
[11:26] <eberry> MenZa: But (further strangeness), it reads "GMT (new line) 10:26 GMT -1"
[11:26] <MenZa> O_O
[11:26] <MenZa> Yes, that is *very* weird.
[11:27] <digitalfiz> anyone here use secondlife in 64bit ubuntu?
[11:27] <eberry> MenZa: Is there a way to get my bios time without restarting?  It's a bit of a pain...
[11:27] <MenZa> eberry: Alas, no.
[11:27] <MenZa> :(
[11:27] <eberry> MenZa: OK
[11:27] <schwezzy> eberry: you can set the system time
[11:28] <schwezzy> through ubuntu
[11:28] <digitalfiz> im having choppy sound issues with softwares that use alsa
[11:28] <MenZa> schwezzy: So far, no major success. I want to check if the BIOS is conflicting somehow.
[11:28] <erUSUL> digitalfiz: i connected once with the emerald client
[11:28] <ardchoille> eberry: not sure it will help, but what I do is install ntp from the repos and keep the clock synced with internet servers, works here
[11:28] <MenZa> ardchoille: Already tried.
[11:28] <MenZa> 7w 76
[11:28] <ardchoille> MenZa: ah, ok
[11:28] <digitalfiz> i connect fine im just having really choppy sound im watching pavcontrol and it looks like it keeps disconnecting connecting as a stream
[11:29] <digitalfiz> when i make vlc use alsa it is choppy for a bit too but it clears up but vlc isnt as intensive as secondlife
[11:30] <digitalfiz> so i was wondering if there was a buffer control for the alsa to pulse connection
[11:31] <UF-Gast882> hey jemand da der mir vllt mit wlan problemen weiterhelfen kann`?
[11:31] <MenZa> Would someone notify eberry that I have to leave due to a meeting soon when he returns? Thanks.
[11:31] <MenZa> !de | UF-Gast882
[11:31] <GIR7590> Alright, I tried the wildcards, however they seem to work quite oddly in aptitude...  How much space do I need to allocate to the root partition so I can make the home partition as big as possible?
[11:34] <Spixx> mikey2: here?
[11:34] <GIR7590> Well, anyone know what's up with apt?
[11:34] <luiX_> it works fine on local (entry in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb file:/var repo/) but not remotely (entry: deb http://192.168.1.x/repo) I have a symbolic link on /var/www/repo pointing to /var/repo, any idea?
[11:35] <mikey2> i hate windows vista i am going too get windows 7
[11:35] <mikey2> Spixx what the matter
[11:35] <Spixx> ;) nothing, and vista is nice if you got a good computer :p
[11:35] <mikey2> your right
[11:35] <ubuntu> Hi. I often use command 'xset dpms force off' to turn off laptop display including background light. It worked fine in Ubuntu 9.04 without any problems. But on 9.10, something turns the light again on (DPMS -> blank screen) after some period of time, for me example 1 minut til 4 minutes.
[11:36] <Carsten-> hey guys... just tried to login to my new ubuntu installation, was able to earlier today no problem, now i am unable to get by GDM if i drop to a command line, I can login ok, but GDM wont let me pass.  (Copypasta from above) I tried the wildcards, however they seem to work quite oddly in aptitude...  Currently i`m running Ubuntu Hardy (8.04) and i`m encountering some problems. For example: i customize the keyboard (to use specific characters from my language). all goes good, until i restart / shutdown the PC. after that, its like it resets the customization i have made. any ideas why this is happening ?
[11:39] <wgrant> mikey2: Cease that, please.
[11:39] <mikey2> alright sorry
[11:39] <llutz> !ops | mikey2 abusing
[11:40] <kermit_> what language do u use
[11:40] <desen> kermit_ romanian
[11:40]  * GIR7590 sighs...
[11:40] <kermit_> romanian
[11:40] <python_root> kermit_: kewl
[11:41] <sassyn> Hi
[11:41] <sassyn> I need help
[11:41] <kermit_> mikey dont polite
[11:41] <python_root> sassyn: ask question in one line
[11:41] <Carsten-> hey guys... just tried to login to my new ubuntu installation, was able to earlier today no problem, now i am unable to get by GDM if i drop to a command line, I can login ok, but GDM wont let me pass. Does anyone have any ideas re this?
[11:41] <ardchoille> sassyn: please state the issue
[11:41] <kermit_> yes, let us help ur problem
[11:41] <sassyn> What is better to use fglrx ot radeon?
[11:41] <sassyn> I have ATI card onboard
[11:42] <sassyn> And Configure Xfree86
[11:42] <sassyn> open firefox
[11:42] <sassyn> install flash
[11:42] <sassyn> but it is very slow
[11:42] <wgrant> !enter | sassyn
[11:42] <sassyn> OK SORRY
[11:42] <muep__> sassyn: depends a lot on the model of your GPU
[11:43] <sassyn> muep__: It is a onboard radeon
[11:43] <desen> HELP PLEASE! Currently i`m running Ubuntu Hardy (8.04) and i`m encountering some problems. For example: i customize the keyboard (to use specific characters from my language). all goes good, until i restart / shutdown the PC. after that, its like it resets the customization i have made. any ideas why this is happening ? if i check the keyboard settings, all the modifications i made are there, but simply do not apply while pressing the keys
[11:43] <Meowpup> wtf have they done to grub in karmic
[11:43] <organichicken> quick question, i recently upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and am missing the "Advanced" tab under System > Administration, any way to retrieve or access it?
[11:43] <wgrant> !grub2 | Meowpup
[11:43] <muep__> sassyn: fglrx is only available for the new models, or for old Ubuntus
[11:44] <f4lcokian> hey guys..
[11:44] <sassyn> muep__ So if I used 9.10 karmic - should I use the ATI or RADEON?
[11:44] <muep__> sassyn: what radeon model?
[11:44] <sassyn>  VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
[11:44] <sassyn>         BoardName   "ES1000"
[11:44] <sassyn>         BusID       "PCI:5:5:0"
[11:45] <muep__> sassyn: doesn't say much about the GPU model
[11:45] <shyguy> Á¿wth,so many people here
[11:45] <muep__> sassyn: how about lspci | grep VGA
[11:45] <sassyn> 05:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02)
[11:46] <shyguy> how are you? otaku
[11:46] <Irakirashia> Look this people :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1328146
[11:46] <sassyn> muep__: is the fglrx moulde is only for GPU ?
[11:46] <organichicken> hi everyone.. i recently upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and am missing the "Advanced" tab under System > Administration, is there anyway to retrieve or access it?
[11:46] <python_root> zetheroo: good to see u back
[11:46] <zetheroo> python_root: hi again
[11:47] <zetheroo> python_root: I just got my slow system issue fixed ...
[11:47] <wgrant> organichicken: There was never an Advanced option under System -> Administration. Are you sure that's what you mean?
[11:47] <muep__> sassyn: I'm trying to find out if that model is very new, or very old... I'm not familiar with it at all
[11:47] <om26er> zetheroo, how?
[11:47] <python_root> zetheroo: what u did ?
[11:47] <zetheroo> python_root: I had to update to the latest Nvidia drivers ... now its flying
[11:47] <zetheroo> om26er: ah there you are
[11:47] <python_root> zetheroo: Commands ?
[11:47] <zetheroo> om26er: i was looking for you :)
[11:48] <om26er> zetheroo, i was installing new system
[11:48] <zetheroo> om26er: I am going to have to post the info on my tech blog
[11:48] <om26er> zetheroo, yes great
[11:48] <sassyn> muep__: Any more feedbakc?
[11:48] <zetheroo> python_root: you also have Nvidia?
[11:48] <Carsten-> hey guys... just tried to login to my new ubuntu installation, was able to earlier today no problem, now i am unable to get by GDM if i drop to a command line, I can login ok, but GDM wont let me pass. Does anyone have any ideas re this?
[11:48] <organichicken> wgrant: i'm actually trying to change the start up options to prompt for password at boot, and a search led me to the "advanced" tab...
[11:48] <om26er> zetheroo, what was the solution
[11:48] <python_root> zetheroo: check my blog yoo www.club-open-source.blogspot.com
[11:49] <zetheroo> om26er: thanks so much ... i knew it had something to do with the graphic drivers
[11:49] <python_root> zetheroo: No indel default graphics
[11:49] <zetheroo> python_root: looking ... oh ok
[11:49] <wgrant> organichicken: You mean System->Administration->Login Screen?
[11:49] <muep__> sassyn: it's very old. fglrx doesn't support old cards, only those from the R600 generation onwards, meaning HD2000 series and newer
[11:49] <sassyn> muep__: Where did u got this info?
[11:49] <python_root> zetheroo: saw my blog ?
[11:49] <d9500> muep__, http://ati.amd.com/products/server/compare.html says it's a server gpu, and judging from the left to right chronological order, i'd say probably a newer one
[11:50] <zetheroo> python_root: yes :) you a puppy linux user?
[11:50] <d9500> but not high performance or new
[11:50] <muep__> zetheroo: it's from 2006
[11:50] <d9500> in comparison to their desktop radeon cards.
[11:50] <muep__> zetheroo: and it seems it's based on the R100 generation
[11:50] <python_root> No that is written by my partner
[11:50] <kazoo> how do i start lighttpd?
[11:50] <zetheroo> muep__: ummm ... what?
[11:50] <python_root> zetheroo: No that is written by my partner i am mastermind
[11:50] <muep__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_R100_.287xxx.29_series
[11:50] <organichicken> wgrant: in Login Screen i only seem to be able to prompt for user at startup, not prompt for password
[11:51] <zetheroo> python_root: sorry? you have more than one author on the blog?
[11:51] <wgrant> organichicken: Prompting for the user will also prompt for a password.
[11:51] <luiX_> i always get a 404 from my deb repository, is directory structure obligatory?
[11:51] <python_root> zetheroo : other 5 posts are by me . yes a helping hand
[11:51] <om26er> luiX_, use other mirror
[11:52] <ardchoille> !ot | python_root
 I don't get
[11:52] <zetheroo> python_root: here is mine :) http://techiesrus.wordpress.com/
 So this is a old card?
[11:52] <python_root> zetheroowould u like to join ?
[11:52] <organichicken> wgrant: automatically?? wow should have figured that out.. thanks a bunch :D
[11:52] <BELLINXFELON> what can I use to convert video files from one format to another?
[11:52] <d9500> muep__,  it may be from 2006, but it's still being sold in new servers. system76 uses it in all their servers. i knew i'd seen the name before
[11:52] <desen> HELP PLEASE! Currently i`m running Ubuntu Hardy (8.04) and i`m encountering some problems. For example: i customize the keyboard (to use specific characters from my language). all goes good, until i restart / shutdown the PC. after that, its like it resets the customization i have made. any ideas why this is happening ? if i check the keyboard settings, all the modifications i made are there, but simply do not apply while pressing the previously assigned
[11:52] <desen> hotkeys
[11:52] <d9500> all their rackmount servers*
[11:52] <kazoo> Hello, How do i start lighttpd and put files into that dir so it will work?
[11:52] <muep__> d9500: radeon supports it
[11:52] <bazhang> zetheroo, take this to offtopic please; no advertising
[11:52] <python_root> ardchoille: lol see the blog it is related k >
[11:52] <kazoo> `brandon` | lighttpd
[11:52] <luiX_> om26er, i'm trying to make my own repo work
[11:52] <zetheroo> python_root: I don't think I would have the time ....
[11:53] <kazoo> !lighttpd | `brandon`
[11:53] <zetheroo> bazhang: sure ... was not "advertising" btw! :-/
[11:53] <muep__> d9500: and since it's more for servers, why would fglrx need to support it?
[11:53] <om26er> luiX_, i don't know anything about that
[11:53] <karix> hi
[11:53] <kazoo> !lamp | `brandon`
[11:53] <python_root> zetheroo: Cool i need content i will format it i was thinking to start some thing like tutorial posts
 Are u talking 2 me?
[11:53] <d9500> muep__, wasn't suggesting that fglrx would. actually, from what i've read of fglrx, i'm not sure i'd want to use it at all unless i had to
[11:53] <bazhang> python_root, offtopic please also
[11:54] <luiX_> om26er, ok, thanks :D
[11:54] <muep__> sassyn: as far as I know, your graphics card isn't supported by fglrx
[11:54] <zetheroo> python_root: we should probably continue this in a PM
[11:54] <muep__> sassyn: so the only logical option is to use the radeon driver for it
[11:54] <karix> just got a quick question.. don't know if this is the best place to ask though. Has anyone had much luck getting wine to work with games in the 64bit install of Karmic?
[11:54] <sassyn> muep__ fglrx mean Graphics library support (version)
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> karix:  works for me
[11:54] <vivid> karix, works for me
[11:55] <wgrant> muep__, sassyn: In addition, that card does not do 3D, so there would be little benefit in using fglrx.
[11:55] <muep__> sassyn: fglrx is the non-free graphics driver from AMD/Ati
[11:55] <om26er> !wfm
[11:55] <python_root> zetheroo: i agree
[11:55] <karix> damn, must just be me :/ I can't get physx to install
[11:55] <karix> and borderlands needs it
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  but thats what he asked for,,,, :)
[11:55] <vivid> karix, did you read appdb? you should probably ask about that in winehq
[11:55] <JonathanEllis> I am installing Net Book Remix on an Eee PC which only has a 4GB flash drive. How much space do I need to allocate to the root partition so I can make the home partition as big as possible?
[11:55] <sassyn> wgrant, muep__ 10x
[11:55] <om26er> Dr_Willis, ok sir
[11:56] <sassyn> wgrant, muep__: Supported by ATI Catalyst™ Professional Edition - What does it mean?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  :)
[11:56] <karix> vivd, Yeah I did. borderlands gets a gold rating, but another 64bit user is struggling as well
[11:56] <frittmann> Hi all, I'm new to this channel, and new to Ubuntu. I am just experimenting with it at the moment, and have a Hardy Heron installation running under VirtualBox on my Acer Aspire One netbook.
[11:56] <vivid> karix, #winehq
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> karix:  physx - Hmm,., not tried any games that Require that..
[11:56] <karix> vivid, thanks mate
[11:56] <khunt> I created a .desktop file. Deleted it from the menu. Now id I put the same .desktop file in /usr/share/applications it will not work unless I rename the file to something different than the original
[11:57] <khunt> is this a bug?
[11:57] <bidossessi> frittmann: welcome. so how do you like it? having any problems anyone here can help you with?
[11:57] <jrib> khunt: how did you delete it from the menu?
[11:57] <ardchoille> khunt: .desktop files should also work in ~/.local/share/applications
[11:58] <khunt> right click edit menu
[11:58] <frittmann> Hi bidossessi, thanks for the welcome. I'm really liking it so far. Had a problem getting the USB going at first, but that was a VM problem, not a Ubuntu thing. No, I'm just here to learn.
[11:58] <qp_pq> how do I get antialiasing on xfce ?
[11:58] <khunt> frittmann I have an AA1 Im using karmic netbook remix on that runs well all hardware works oob
[11:59] <qp_pq> I want to get antialiased fonts
[11:59] <qp_pq> my eyes are hurtingwithout
[11:59] <jrib> khunt: as ardchoille hinted, that creates a new .desktop in ~/.local/share/applications/ with the same name that contains something like "hidden=true" and .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications/ with the same name as one in /usr/share/applications/ take precedence
[11:59] <bidossessi> is xfce even being updated anymore?
[12:00] <frittmann> khunt, I installed Hardy rather than Karmic only because I had the *.iso lying around. :) I will have a look at Karmic later.
[12:00] <ward-> if i rightclick a DVD iso and mount it, where is it then mounted?
[12:00] <bidossessi> what's the best console browser available in the repos?
[12:00] <ward-> whats the location?
[12:00] <ward-> its not in /media
[12:00] <pll8020> hello people! i have a macbook aluminium 13" ubuntu 9.10. i have this problem that when i make a shutdown, the power is not turned off at the end of the process..
[12:01] <khunt> jrib thanks!
[12:01] <bidossessi> ward-: right-click to mount? it might end up in /media/dvd
[12:01] <pll8020> i have also tried shutdown -h
[12:02] <dart> buenas
[12:02] <dart> tengo un problema
[12:02] <bidossessi> !es | dart
[12:02] <ardchoille> !es | dart
[12:02] <ward-> bidossessi, no its not in /media
[12:02] <ardchoille> ward-: checked /mnt ?
[12:02] <bidossessi> ward-: did you mount it from a nautilus menu?
[12:02] <pll8020> noone ?
[12:02] <ward-> rightclick - open with archive mounter
[12:02] <ward-> is how i mounted it
[12:02] <ward-> ardchoille, yep
[12:03] <plustax> Guys, I have an issue when I try to click system then display I get this error.  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/ss.png
[12:03] <frittmann> does anyone else here run Ubuntu under VirtualBox?
[12:03] <plustax> Can anyone help?
[12:03] <Sincere> how can i search for occurrences of %d in my vi file? can anyone please tell me the command?
[12:03] <LOAST> i used ubuntu once and i liked it but my prob was that it used command and i am not good in that ...
[12:03] <pll8020> is there any one using ubuntu on  a macbook ?
[12:03] <jrib> pll8020: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:03] <python_root> ward-:In that case it is probably mouned on your desktop that it
[12:03] <wgrant> plustax: That means exactly what it says.
[12:03] <pll8020> ok.
[12:04] <plustax> how do I fix it? Im new to ubuntu
[12:04] <plustax> only my second day of use
[12:04] <wgrant> plustax: Are you using the proprietary nvidia driver?
[12:04] <LOAST> is there a chace that ubuntu be more easy in the future ??
[12:04] <ward-> python_root, nope its not on my desktop
[12:04] <ward-> python_root, this is not OSX
[12:04] <jrib> LOAST: what do you find hard?
[12:04] <ward-> lol
[12:04] <plustax> im using 185 or 173 I forget which
[12:04] <bidossessi> LOAST: imply it's complicated now?
[12:04] <pll8020> jrib: my macbook will not power off a the end of the shutdown process. any suggestions ?
[12:04] <plustax> I uninstalled libvisual though by accident
[12:04] <LjL> LOAST: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, they'll have opinions
[12:04] <plustax> could that have caused it?
[12:04] <ward-> python_root, i can open it no problem, i just need to know where exactly its mounted
[12:04] <jrib> pll8020: what ubuntu version?
[12:04] <wgrant> plustax: nvidia's proprietary drivers (which cannot be modified by the Ubuntu developers) do not support the standard methods of display configuration. You want to click 'Yes' on that dialog.
[12:05] <ardchoille> ward-: open a terminal and type "mount" without quotes
[12:05] <LOAST> thank u all
[12:05] <python_root> ward-: if u r mounting an archive it is mounted locally not in /media
[12:05] <plustax> Okay thank you
[12:05] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:05] <bidossessi> what's the best console browser available in the repos?
[12:05] <PhompAng> เฮ้ยยยยยยยยยยย
[12:05] <python_root> ward-: see the address its like archive://......
[12:05] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:05] <PhompAng> แว๊บ
[12:05] <bidossessi> what's the best console <web> browser available in the repos (sorry for the ambiguity)?
[12:06] <ardchoille> !best
[12:06] <ward-> python_root, so how can i just mount it?
[12:06] <ward-> like really mount it
[12:06] <ward-> lol
[12:06] <jrib> bidossessi: try links2 and w3m
[12:06] <ghostlines> can virt-manager make snapshots of vm's too?
[12:06] <d9500> bidossessi, links is simple and fast, elinks offers better rendering of pages, imho, but seemed slower on my machine. really, it comes down to what you like better
[12:07] <python_root> ward-: mounting is done for external drivers what v do is only virtual
[12:07] <bidossessi> d9500: i'm in console right now, and i was just looking for options to try
[12:07] <python_root> ward-: sorry i ment devices
[12:07] <ward-> python_root, so i cannot mount a iso? :s
[12:08] <bidossessi> ward-: of course you can.
[12:08] <ward-> ok, how please
[12:08] <python_root> ward-: lol what do u need once u can access file it is like mounting
[12:08] <fasta> How can I get hibernation to work? I have a swap partition of ridiculous size already (9GB) to be sure that it is large enough.
[12:08] <ardchoille> ward-: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /path
[12:08] <ward-> python_root, i need to mount it.......... really mount it
[12:08] <ward-> thanx ardchoille
[12:08] <ardchoille> yw
[12:08] <bidossessi> ward-: google for "mount iso linux"
[12:08] <wgrant> ward-: You could also right click on the ISO and say "Open with Archive Mounter"
[12:09] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:09] <wgrant> ward-: Then it will appear in the file browser sidebar.
[12:09] <bidossessi> i forgot the needed mount options but i know they include a loopback device
[12:09] <ardchoille> wgrant: that's what he did
[12:09] <ward-> wgrant, lol no then its not really mounted
[12:09] <om26er_> archive mounter can mount iso files
[12:09] <ward-> yes kindof
[12:09] <PhompAng> :-P
[12:09] <gsedej> hi! Where to ask about gtk-recordMyDeskotp?
[12:09] <wgrant> ward-: Does the mountpoint in ~/.gvfs not do enough for you?
[12:09] <zetheroo> ward-: have you ever used Gmount-iso?
[12:09] <ward-> wgrant, aha, nobody told me it was located there, i asked
[12:10] <wgrant> ward-: Sorry, I apparently wasn't watching.
[12:10] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:10] <wgrant> ward-: All GNOME mounts should appear in there.
[12:10] <patricidio> hi
[12:10] <python_root> ward-: getting confused and confusing others
[12:10] <ward-> wgrant, nice to know thanx
[12:10] <robas> Does Firefox 3.5.5 run on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS if so how to make it ?
[12:10] <ward-> perfect
[12:10] <om26er_> !hi | patricidio
[12:10] <patricidio> where are firefox config files located?
[12:10] <wgrant> robas: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Desktop Edition is no longer supported.
[12:10] <gsedej> hi! Where to ask about gtk-recordMyDeskotp?
[12:10] <patricidio> are they on ~/.mozilla/firefox/ ?
[12:10] <Meowpup> how do i update smplayer to be default player in update-alternatives
[12:11] <robas> wgrant roger :(
[12:11] <bidossessi> patricidio: in ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[12:11] <patricidio> I can't tell, cause I'm not using Ubuntu just now
[12:11] <UF-Gast255> kann mir jemand bei problemen mit meinemsystem helfen`?
[12:11] <om26er_> Meowpup, you want the latest version? use ppa
[12:11] <wgrant> robas: You should upgrade to at least Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, as Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is no longer receiving updates, except for core server applications.
[12:11] <UF-Gast255> w
[12:11] <bidossessi> patricidio: they're there in pretty much every linux distro
[12:11] <UF-Gast255> wäre sehr nett
[12:11] <om26er_> UF-Gast255, english only
[12:11] <wgrant> !de | UF-Gast255
[12:12] <frittmann> how do I mount a filesystem so that it stays persistent? I am using the Linux Guest Additions of VirtualBox to connect to a shared folder from the host computer. The command I am using is "mount -t vboxsf myshare /mnt/mountpoint" and it works fine, except that each time I restart the VM I have to remount the shared folder.
[12:12] <robas> wgrant I was trying to ugrade but... panasonic toughbook cf-28 seems was not good enaught to run it properly :(
[12:12] <Catalin> hello all
[12:13] <Summerrose> PhompAng: :P
[12:13] <wgrant> robas: Well, it's no longer safe to run Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.
[12:13] <wgrant> Summerrose: Can you please stop that?
[12:13] <Catalin> can someone tell me who to use pidgin or something else to call a friend that is using yahoo messenger on Windows?
[12:14] <Delano> Does anyone know a general Ubuntu channel? One for fans, not technie support
[12:14] <wgrant> !ot | Delano
[12:14] <om26er_> Catalin, gyachi might work
[12:14] <ikonia> Catalin: pidgen will work fine
[12:14] <robas> wgrant I will try to upgrade it again.... can u remind me irc for console?
[12:14] <Catalin> i`ve tryed both of them and it doesn`t work
[12:14] <jason> does anyone know how to alter the positioning of a print with cups?? on mine the whole page is a couple of cm low and so prints off the bottom of the page
[12:14] <Catalin> i don`t see a button that says "call"
[12:15] <robas> cos after upgrade text mode works but 'cos me being newbe :) hard to ru X
[12:15] <ikonia> Catalin: add him as a friend then just click his name
[12:15] <ikonia> Catalin: it doesn't support voice chat
[12:15] <om26er_> he wanna call his friend
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> robas:  weechat, or irssi
[12:16] <TheMask33> does anyone know how to create a bootable usb containing windows from ubuntu?
[12:16] <Catalin> you see, i want a program that support voice chat
[12:16] <robas> Dr_Willis thank u
[12:16] <Meowpup> how do i set smplayer to be default player using  update-alternatives
[12:16] <ikonia> Catalin: sorry, it doesn't exist
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  a bootable hard drive? or floppy?
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  im not sure what windos even can run from a usb hard drive
[12:16] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: a bootable usb stick
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  ive seen torrents of images however.. not that i advise doing that.
[12:17] <robas> good day to all
[12:17] <Catalin> ikonia, you tellin` me that Ubuntu don`t have a program that has voice chat?
[12:17] <hurrrr> DCC SEND hahahahhahahahahahaha:#asdasdasdasdasdas 0 0 0
[12:17] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: yes, i am also not sure, i tried just using dd, but with no luck
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> Catalin:  skype, and some IM clients can do voice chat
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  dd would never work. :)
[12:17] <om26er_> Catalin, msn and gtalk voice chat works
[12:18] <ikonia> Catalin: not that is compatible with yahoo chat
[12:18] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: why not?
[12:18] <python_root> !skype
[12:18] <orak3l> i never want to install pulseaudio on my system. but sometimes pulseaudio is mentioned in "recommended package". i want apt to ignore pulseaudio. i need some kind of blacklist for packages
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  windows needs special tweaks to boot properly from usb driuves
[12:18] <python_root> !skype | Catalin
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> TheMask33:  ask in #windows for details perhaps
[12:18] <Catalin> IM on Ubuntu are not compatible with yahoo messenger(voice chat)?
[12:18] <TheMask33> Dr_Willis: hm, i will, thanks :)
[12:19] <om26er_> no sound notifications in empathy any help?
[12:19] <python_root> Catalin:  Install skype
[12:19] <wgrant> Catalin: Nobody has implemented voice chat for the Yahoo! Messenger protocol yet.
[12:19] <ikonia> Catalin: no, Linux does not have a client
[12:19] <vivid> Catalin, you want only voice chat? if you know of ventrilo there is a linux client called Mangler
[12:19] <python_root> !ventrilo |  Catalin
[12:20] <Catalin> and this "Mangler" can use users on Yahoo?
[12:20] <dAnon1> vivid I think I love you
[12:20] <vivid> no its ventrilo
[12:20] <dAnon1> lmao
[12:20] <dAnon1> I was freezing and crashing with wine ventrillo
[12:20] <dAnon1> gonna check that Mangler out
[12:21] <vivid> mangler.org
[12:21] <pll8020> my macbook ubuntu 9.10 is not powering off at the end of shutdown process.
[12:21] <vivid> it requires pulseaudio so if you use wine youll probably want to build it with the winepulse driver
[12:22] <dAnon1> does it support 2* ventirlo as well vivid?
[12:22] <pll8020> my macbook ubuntu 9.10 is not powering off at the end of shutdown process. anyone know how to fix this ?
[12:22] <archman> hello, why can't i spoof my wlan card mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00 anymore? a change in drivers from intrepid to jaunty? anyone?
[12:22] <vivid> dAnon1, im not sure, go to #mangler and ask or submit a feature request, i think its version 3
[12:23] <Roey> hey does anyone know what the heck is up with udev?  My system doesn't detect when I put in my SD card, apparently..
[12:23] <System33> 13:22 [ gavin-hu        ] [ OkropNick       ] [ Zeit|awy_      ]
[12:23] <ikonia> archman: quite possibly
[12:23] <dAnon1> vivid people use vent 2.1.4 mainly
[12:23] <om26er_> Roey, what system
[12:23] <archman> ikonia, any way in shifting between old and new drivers?
[12:24] <Roey> om26er_:  kubuntu 9.10.  Here's a related post I found:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8326382#post8326382
[12:24] <ikonia> archman: I doubt it, kernel modules are normally kernel specific
[12:24] <Roey> om26er_:  it worked until I updated udev one day
[12:24] <ikonia> archman: (that's assuming it is a driver change that's your problem)
[12:24] <archman> ikonia, ok, thanks for the enlightment ;)
[12:24] <Roey> om26er_:  you know, through a general apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <vivid> dAnon1, submit a feature request, the client is only in the RC stages atm
[12:26] <dAnon1> thx vivid
[12:26] <dAnon1> I will
[12:27] <smwn> bot
[12:27] <Catalin> any idee why when i plug my microphone in my M-Audio sound blaster, my sound card doesn`t recognize it
[12:27] <ikonia> smwn: ?
[12:27] <smwn> ikonia bot?
[12:27] <blackshell> anyone experienced ntldr missing problem?
[12:27] <ikonia> swaj: what about it ?
[12:27] <smwn> ops
[12:27] <smwn> im half asleep
[12:27] <ikonia> blackshell: normally caused by a corrupt windows disk after resizing
[12:27] <smwn> its 2am
[12:27] <bidossessi> blackshell: ?? ntdlr in linux?
[12:27] <evap> hi all wazzap
[12:28] <smwn> studying
[12:28] <ikonia> smwn: do you need help with something
[12:28] <blackshell> ikonia:you know how to recover?
[12:28] <blackshell> bidossessi:in dual boot?
[12:28] <Catalin> any idee why when i plug my microphone in my M-Audio sound blaster, my sound card doesn`t recognize it
[12:28] <JediMaster> hey guys, I'm running ubuntu on some virtual servers (xen based), and the kernels installed are currently linux-image-2.6.xx-xx-xen,  when upgrading to karmic, the machines wouldn't boot complaining that they couldn't mount /proc, am I right in thinking that it's installed a generic kernel image that doesn't work with xen and that I should install linux-image-virtual before rebooting after the upgrade?
[12:28] <smwn> No
[12:28] <ikonia> blackshell: if you re-install the windows nltd with the recovery CD - then re-install grub
[12:28] <smwn> i typed in the wrong channel
[12:28] <evap> anyone knw how to install wow under slackware
[12:28] <ikonia> JediMaster: the generic kernel should be fine for acting as a xen guest
[12:28] <blackshell> ikonia:what is windows recovery cd?
[12:29] <bazhang> evap, ask in #slackware
[12:29] <ikonia> blackshell: your windows install CD
[12:29] <bazhang> whoops
[12:29] <JediMaster> ikonia, that's what I thought but I've seen this same issue elsewhere on the net with karmic and xen
[12:29] <gavin-hu> which ubuntu server version support intel xeon x3220 processor . Does ubunte server amd64 suppot it !  any help ?  Thanks
[12:29] <Catalin> any idee why when i plug my microphone in my M-Audio sound blaster, my sound card doesn`t recognize it
[12:29] <blackshell> ikonia:i dint have that option in the xp cd
[12:29] <ikonia> JediMaster: I've not tried it with xen so can't speak from experience, but on paper it "should" be fine, is the complaint just proc
[12:30] <ikonia> blackshell: if you boot from it and click install it will offer you recovery mode or fix install, ##windows can help you with that
[12:30] <JediMaster> ikonia, what are the differences with -xen and -virtual kernels compared to the standard generic one?
[12:30] <smwn> I disagree they are fairly stupid in ##windows
[12:30] <JediMaster> ikonia, yeah, I can't remember the exact error, but it couldn't mount /proc and just plain wouldn't boot at all
[12:30] <smwn> they just debate what OS is better all day
[12:30] <chu__> Mmmm, screen's all getting dodgey
[12:30] <ikonia> smwn: enough - this is ubuntu support - keep with that topic
[12:31] <UF-Gast527> wie kann ich nach channeln suchen`?
[12:31] <blackshell> ikonia:is that a channel in freenode
[12:31] <ikonia> JediMaster: from a xen client point of view, nothing, the -virtual kernel is slimmed down of all host based stuff I believe
[12:31] <wgrant> !de | UF-Gast527
[12:31] <ikonia> blackshell: it is
[12:31] <sergy> DCC SEND "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" 0 0 0
[12:31] <sipior> i hate that.
[12:31] <JediMaster> ikonia, so just less drivers/modules?
[12:32] <smwn> ikonia, are you in a bad mood dude lol
[12:32] <ikonia> JediMaster: pretty much, but all native hardware stuff as its not "real" hardware
[12:32] <bazhang> smwn, stay on topic
[12:32] <ikonia> smwn: no - you just don't need to bad mouth people in this channel
[12:33] <William-Ubuntu> any one can help me , i can't mail to root,
[12:33] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: what happens
[12:34] <JediMaster> ikonia, I just don't want to reinstall (the default images are 8.04 LTS) and upgrade all the way to 9.10 to have it not mount /proc (and because I can't get to grub in the console I can't fix  anything at all)
[12:34] <ikonia> JediMaster: ah yes, I can see how that would be tricky
[12:34] <William-Ubuntu> i can use root to mail to a normal user, two normal can mail each other too, but i can not mail to root use normal or root self
[12:34] <ciphergoth> Has anyone used lxc? lxc-start is giving me an error " lxc-start: open /var/lib/lxc/lenny/nsgroup/devices.deny : No such file or directory"
[12:35] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: can you explain what happens ?
[12:35] <bazhang> ciphergoth, lenny?
[12:35] <JediMaster> ikonia, so in theory then, the -virtual kernel image shouldn't fix this /proc not mounting issue?
[12:35] <BusMaster> I get a Capabilities mismatch error in Karmic even though I did apt-get update; and the systems that the ubuntuone-client is the newest one. What should I do now?
[12:35] <ikonia> JediMaster: it may, but I can't see or understand why it would
[12:35] <ciphergoth> bazhang: trying to create a lenny virtual machine on a karmic real machine
[12:35] <wgrant> BusMaster: Log out and in again.
[12:36] <William-Ubuntu> i run command : mail root .... but root don't get any mail
[12:36] <ikonia> JediMaster: you may want to try asking in #ubuntu-virt
[12:36] <JediMaster> ikonia, ok, thanks, I'll just image the server before the upgrade then, fingers crossed! ta for the help
[12:36] <BusMaster> wgrant, did that... ieven tried restarting my computer
[12:36] <testi> Is there a graphical multiseat management tool? For example a tool displaying all input devices plugged in (mouse, keyboard, webcam, joystick), output devices (monitors, sound cards) in a graph, whereas input devices can be mapped to sessions (N:1) and sessions can be mapped to output devices (N:M)? Use-Case, two users each with mouse and keyboard, both want to use the same monitor and different sessions running (split screen)
[12:36] <JediMaster> ikonia, ok will do, wasn't aware there was such a channel =)
[12:36] <wgrant> BusMaster: Does Update Manager show any updates?
[12:36] <edgy> Hi, if I used kdm instead of gdm, I got a message ubuntu is working in low-graphics mode
[12:36] <ikonia> JediMaster: may not be the best place for xen but with an ask
[12:37] <BusMaster> wgrant, yes..skype and skype-common
[12:37] <ikonia> JediMaster: "worth" an ask that should be
[12:37] <William-Ubuntu> Ok , another way, how can i mail to root ?
[12:37] <ngirard> Hi all. Using equivs-build I've built & installed a dummy package whose "provides" are beeing ignored by apt-get. Specifically, my texlive-dummy does provide, among others, tex-common ; and yet  apt-get install jadetex requires libosp5 openjade1.3 tex-common tipa to be installed... anu thoughts ?
[12:38] <wgrant> BusMaster: Are python-ubuntuone-client and python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol up to date?
[12:38] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: how are you trying to read root's mail
[12:38] <William-Ubuntu> user su to switch to root and   mail
[12:39] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: is there a root mail spool file ?
[12:39] <BusMaster> wgrant, python-ubuntuone-client           1.0.2-0ubuntu1 ; python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol  1.0.0-0ubuntu1. does that seem okay?
[12:39] <William-Ubuntu> yeah, /var/mail/root is
[12:39] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: ok - open that and see if it has your mail
[12:40] <BusMaster> wgrant, or should storageprotocol also be 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 ?
[12:40] <wgrant> BusMaster: -client should be -0ubuntu2
[12:40] <wgrant> BusMaster: Pastebin your sources.list.
[12:41] <William-Ubuntu> nothing, i can't mail anything to root, but the same way one other user works
[12:41] <wgrant> William-Ubuntu: /etc/aliases doesn't redirect root's mail to another user?
[12:41] <ikonia> William-Ubuntu: so that file is zero bytes ?
[12:41] <ikonia> wgrant: nice spot
[12:42] <BusMaster> wgrant, http://pastebin.com/ddbfcd62
[12:42] <William-Ubuntu> not redirected , i just refresh install ubuntu,and i don't change things lot, it is zero bytes
[12:43] <BusMaster> wgrant, I'm running karmic which i upgraded from jaunty
[12:43] <wgrant> BusMaster: Eek. You don't have the security or critical updates repositories enabled.
[12:43] <wgrant> BusMaster: Try to enable them in System->Administration->Software Sources, and then run Update Manager again.
[12:43] <BusMaster> wgrant, *gulp* ok
[12:43] <William-Ubuntu>  mailer-daemon: postmaster  only this is not root, others are end with root
[12:44] <BusMaster> wgrant, i don't see a critical updates in Software Sources. Should I enable the "Important security updates" and "Recommended updates" ?
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> root@Ubuntu:~# mail root
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> Cc: test
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> Subject: test
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> test
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> .
[12:45] <William-Ubuntu> root@Ubuntu:~# mail
[12:45] <FloodBot3> William-Ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <Spixx> bahah
[12:45] <Spixx> pastebin William-Ubuntu
[12:46] <AD3> Hi. I've just upgraded to 9.10 and the altgr key appears to have stopped functioning. i.e. before altgr+3 = #, now altgr acts like shift what should I look at to configure/correct this
[12:46] <BusMaster> wgrant, ooooh, 104 new updates. ubuntuone-client is one of them. I'm getting them..now lets see what happens
[12:46] <Spixx> check for keymap or km in HAL config :S
[12:47] <adac> After a restart my bash history is gone. What do I need to modify so that the history will be saved?
[12:47] <wgrant> BusMaster: That sounds a bit better.
[12:47] <PWR> AD3 maybe reinstall and choose different keyboard layout during install?
[12:47] <dutchbuntu> AD3: on a US keyboard: shift+3=#
[12:47] <chu__> Last time I ran the update my system died, think I should try again? 555 updates...
[12:47] <mataks> help pls.. i run this on terminal everytime i boot to have my external soundcard working .. modprobe snd-cmipci ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss
[12:47] <mataks> ...  how to make it auto load on boot..
[12:47] <dutchbuntu> AD3: whats your keyboard lay-out?
[12:48] <AD3> dutchbuntu: "spain" but it doestn't look to me like it really is
[12:48] <Anorien> Hello, could someone tell me why im getting permission denied when running as root for gvfs? du: cannot access `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[12:48] <dutchbuntu> chu__: when was the last time?
[12:48] <AD3> dutchbuntu: spain is the right keyboard layout
[12:48] <python_root1> !autorun
[12:48] <python_root1> !startup
[12:48] <mataks> help pls.. i run this on terminal everytime i boot to have my external soundcard working .. modprobe snd-cmipci ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss.. ...  how to make it auto load on boot....
[12:48] <chu__> Maybe a week ago?
[12:48] <nimrod0> !boot
[12:48] <dutchbuntu> AD3: and did you set up Ubuntu to use the Spanish keyboard lay-out?
[12:48] <python_root1> !boot  | mataks
[12:49] <mataks> !boot
[12:49] <dutchbuntu> chu__: karmic?
[12:49] <chu__> I'm running a vanilla Karmic beta here, if that makes any more sense.
[12:49] <dangerx89> ciao
[12:49] <dutchbuntu> chu__: why?
[12:49] <dangerx89> irc.abjects.net
[12:50] <dutchbuntu> chu__: Karmic is out of beta
[12:50] <dangerx89>  	#nonsolowii
[12:50] <chu__> I updated from jaunty when karmic hit beta, everything worked perfectly so I had high hopes for Karmic official, but everytime I update it, it does,
[12:50] <python_root1> dutchbuntu: karamic is still an intermediate
[12:50] <chu__> And, I haven't been able to find an ISO that works yet :p
[12:50] <chu__> I burnt 3 discs and they all died :/
[12:50] <AD3> dutchbuntu: before upgrade I was using a spainsh keyboard (np) and I didn't changing anything during upgrade. in system->preferences->keyboard it still says "spain"
[12:50] <Spixx> chu__: try slower speeds?
[12:50] <LjL> phyrrus: "karmic" is a what?
[12:50] <dutchbuntu> python_root1: what do you mean?
[12:51] <python_root1> chu__: sad
[12:51] <mataks> python_root,  im new to linux.. can you give me the complete command to make it load on startup.. please..
[12:51] <LjL> python_root1: "karmic" is a what?
[12:51] <PWR> AD3 does the Fn key exist on your keyboard?
[12:52] <AD3> PWR: no
[12:52] <AD3> PWR: dutchbuntu by deleting the existing selecitons, and adding "spain" again it seems to have self-rectified. bit weird
[12:52] <Anorien> Hello, could someone tell me why im getting permission denied when running as root for gvfs? du: cannot access `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[12:52] <dutchbuntu> chu__: do you want to do a fresh install or upgrade to Karmic?
[12:53] <wgrant> Anorien: ~/.gvfs is a magical virtual filesystem which only the owning user can see.
[12:53] <eberry> Hello.  I am having trouble with my clock time in Karmic.  Have I come to the right place to talk to experts and find a solution?
[12:53] <python_root1> mataks: sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[12:53] <wgrant> Anorien: it does not contain any useful data.
[12:53] <dutchbuntu> AD3: weird, yes.  I'm looking to add more RAM.
[12:53] <PWR> Then I don really know, but sometimes it helps to unlock Fn, or f.i. NumLock or AltGr in combination with Shift or Alt. Try some of those combinations.
[12:53] <BusMaster> wgrant, it works! whoop, whoop! Thanks :D
[12:53] <chu__> dutchbuntu: I'd do a fresh install if I could, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade really.
[12:54] <wgrant> BusMaster: Excellent!
[12:54] <dutchbuntu> chu__: did you download the ISO?
[12:54] <chu__> Unfortunately, I don't have any blank CDs with me here, I left a stack of 50 at my brother's house ... :p
[12:54] <PWR> AD3 I see so it´s allright now?
[12:54] <Anorien> ty wgrant
[12:54] <chu__> I have the ubuntu9.10-desktop-i386.ISO or whatever.
[12:54] <AD3> is there a none-interactive upgrade option/process btw? Not a fan of monologues blocking the process waiting for the user to click the only button
[12:55] <dutchbuntu> chu__: if you have an empty USB flash drive available (1Gb min), you can use that
[12:55] <JonathanEllis> I want to share files between two machines (both running Ubuntu). Is there any problem with sharing my whole home folder (/home/jonathan) or should I share the individual folders within that I need access to (/home/jonathan/Documents etc)?
[12:55] <eberry> My GNOME clock applet has the time as 14:55.  The time here (in Central Europe) is 1:55.  The GNOME applet's time zone seems to be correctly set.   Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[12:55] <python_root1> mataks: u there
[12:55] <dutchbuntu> chu__: did you md5sum the iso?
[12:55] <AD3> PWR: I think it was some how configured for US even though it said spain. yes.
[12:55] <chu__> Nope...
[12:55] <chu__> :p
[12:55] <Spixx> eberry: UTC or localtime :D?
[12:55] <dutchbuntu> chu__: you know what to do next then ;-)
[12:55] <DaDa|Urka> Why are remote evolution-calendars not shown in the gnome-clock applet????
[12:55] <PWR> AD3 right-o
[12:55] <knoxville_> hej johan
[12:55] <mataks> python_root1, yes.. im doing it now..
[12:55] <Spixx> otherwise you will get + 1 hour anyway :D
[12:56] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Do you have daylight saving time set?
[12:56] <python_root1> mataks: k
[12:56] <eberry> Spixx: Local time is 1:56.  UTC is 12:56.  The GNOME applet, which is configured to read local time, reads 2:56.
[12:56] <mataks> python_root1, one more thing.. i have to go to alsamixer to raise the volume to max again.. is there any way to configure it.. like don't need to raise the volumes again
[12:56] <eberry> JonathanEllis: How do I set daylight savings time?
[12:56] <chu__> The ISO I was trying to burn was only 490 MBs, no wonder it didn't work, I just re-downloaded it and it's 690 MBs.
[12:57] <python_root1> mataks: i am afraid i dont know that
[12:57] <PWR> =gone
[12:57] <dutchbuntu> chu__: that should help, yes. ;-)
[12:57] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Im just looking but I think |System|Administration|Time and date
[12:57] <mataks> python_root1, ok thnx a lot :)
[12:58] <DaDa|Urka> Why are remote evolution-calendars not shown in the gnome-clock applet????
[12:58] <patricidio> where are firefox config files located?
[12:58] <python_root1> mataks: welcome
[12:58] <patricidio> are they on ~/.mozilla/firefox/ ?
[12:58] <patricidio> I can't tell, cause I'm not using Ubuntu just now
[12:59] <chu__> Now I wish I had a blank CD :(
[12:59] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Time and Date in Karmic just asks you if you want to use NTP servers or not.  I am using NTP servers (pool.ntp.org), and I am using the Europe/Zurich time zone, which is correct
[12:59] <rsv> How to delete files which start with .
[12:59] <dutchbuntu> chu__: do you have a USB flash drive available? 1 Gb min
[12:59] <rsv> How to delete files which start with "."
[13:00] <zash> rsv: rm .blarg
[13:00] <eberry> rsv: the same way: rm .example
[13:00] <zash> rsv: or, in nautilus, press Ctrl+H
[13:00] <chu__> I have a 500gb external...
[13:00] <eberry> No one knows how to solve this time skew problem?
[13:00] <dutchbuntu> chu__: but it has to be empty...
[13:00] <rsv> i want to do it recursively
[13:01] <chu__> It has a backup of my current /home directory (~24 GBs)
[13:01] <eberry> My GNOME clock applet has the time as 14:55.  The time here (in Central Europe) is 1:55.  The GNOME applet's time zone seems to be correctly set.   Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[13:02] <python_root> eberry: check ur system time buddy
[13:02] <eberry> python_root: how do I do that? date -u?
[13:02] <ciphergoth> eberry: go to "Time and Date" settings under System > Admiistratin
[13:02] <Take0n> is there a way to hide a specific window from taskbar or force to notification aera even if it doesn't support it?
[13:03] <ciphergoth> and select Configuration: Keep synchronized with Internet servers
[13:03] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Just looking for daylight saving time. Havent found it yet. As a side issue I suggest you edit your ntp.conf to include three time servers 0.ch.pool.ntp.org, 1.ch.pool.ntp.org and 2.ch.pool.ntp.org That way your ntp time will be more reliable (in case one of the servers fail) and you are getting time from a more local source so there will be less jitter.
[13:03] <dutchbuntu> chu__: than make a quick trip to the nearest store to buy a CDR
[13:04] <ciphergoth> JonathanEllis: I think it's preferable to recommend using the GUI tools
[13:04] <chu__> I can live with beta until then :p
[13:04] <chu__> Anyway, cheers.
[13:04] <eberry> cipher_goth: I'm not sure what you want me to do there.  There's no way to "check system time" in Time and Date
[13:04] <dutchbuntu> chu__: gl
[13:04] <ciphergoth> eberry: what revision of Ubuntu are you using/
[13:04] <eberry> JonathanEllis: I can do that, but how do I update my time?
[13:04] <eberry> ciphergoth: Karmic
[13:05] <ciphergoth> OK.  In time and date, click on the keys to unlock
[13:05] <eberry> ciphergoth: done
[13:05] <ciphergoth> eberry: What's under "Configuration"
[13:05] <Mwa> How do I control the screen brightness on my netbook? The brighter/darker keys do nothing and I can barely see the screen with the sun where it is
[13:06] <ciphergoth> eberry: I have a top line that says "Time zone: Europe/London" and a second line that used to say "Configuration: Manual"
[13:06] <eberry> ciphergoth: Time Zone: Europe/Zurich, Configuration: Keep synchronized with Internet servers
[13:07] <ciphergoth> OK, excellent.  Click on "Select servers"
[13:07] <eberry> ciphergoth: ok
[13:07] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Here is something that might help with DST http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150472. To change your system time, go to |System|Administration|Time and date and change it manually there. I was thinking there was a conflict with your system time and local time but I see the time difference is in the wrong direction. Do you know if ntp is actually changing your time?
[13:07] <ciphergoth> and select some servers that are near you
[13:07] <vermapratyush_> how do i open grub2 prompt in ubuntu 9.10
[13:07] <vermapratyush_> ??
[13:07] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: do you dual boot?
[13:07] <eberry> ciphergoth: I've already done this.  It doesn't seem to do anything.
[13:07] <eberry> ciphergoth: Even after reboot, my time is still wrong.
[13:08] <ciphergoth> hurm, I wonder if ntp is having trouble reaching the servers you added?
[13:08] <incorrect> hi, can anyone suggest a VPS provider in japan that provides ubuntu 9.10?
[13:08] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, i want to restore grub ??
[13:08] <nordhri> does anyone have experience with dosbox?
[13:08] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Thanks, but I don't want to manually set the time and get it wrong.  I want the NTP servers to set it for me.
[13:08] <dutchbuntu> !grub2 | vermapratyush_
[13:08] <eberry> ciphergoth: possible?  How would I know?
[13:08] <ciphergoth> eberry: from the command line try something like ntpdate -d <serveR>
[13:09] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, windows erased my gtrub
[13:09] <vermapratyush_> *grub
[13:09] <eberry> ciphergoth: I get a stream of output
[13:09] <eberry> ciphergoth: looks ok
[13:09] <ciphergoth> what does it say your "offset" is?
[13:09] <eberry> ciphergoth: I am using pool.ntp.org
[13:09] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Fair enough but ntp waits a long time before it steps the clock if you are more than a few seconds out. Its usually easier to set the clock manually and then set ntp to keep the clock correct
[13:10] <eberry> ciphergoth: Local time is actually 2:10pm
[13:10] <genti> hi everyone
[13:10] <ciphergoth> eberry: The last line of my ntpdate -d output is "16 Nov 13:09:32 ntpdate[28508]: adjust time server <IP_ADDRESS> offset 0.120933 sec"
[13:10] <eberry> ciphergoth: UTC is actually 1:10pm
[13:10] <ciphergoth> what's your last line?
[13:10] <genti> can somebody help me on sharing some files on samba on Xubuntu pls
[13:10] <ciphergoth> eberry: I know, I'm on UTC right now
[13:10] <eberry> ciphergoth: 16 Oct 15:09:15 ntpdate[3511]: step time server <IP_ADDRESS> offset 2678399.673552 sec
[13:10] <python_root> vermapratyush_: put ur live cd type - sudo grub  - root (hd0,0)      - setup (hd0)   - quit    - exit
[13:10] <dutchbuntu> !ask | genti
[13:11] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Do you know how to get it to sync?
[13:11] <ciphergoth> eberry: then I think JonathanEllis has it
[13:11] <ciphergoth> eberry: you need to sync by hand because ntp doesn't like to make big changes to your clock
[13:11] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Also, I can't see the manual setting you're talking about in Time & Date
[13:11] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, iam unable to open grub prompt ?? what is the command to open grub2 prompt
[13:11] <python_root> awere hdo is ur address
[13:11] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Er. I have done a lot of work with ntp but it was some years ago so bear with me if my memory is slow
[13:11] <dutchbuntu> !grub2 | vermapratyush_
[13:11] <ciphergoth> eberry: switch back to configuration: Manual
[13:11] <ciphergoth> change the time to be about right
[13:11] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Not at all! Any expertise is greatly appreciated.
[13:12] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, is not working
[13:12] <ciphergoth> and the date
[13:12] <ciphergoth> then switch back and let NTP do the rest
[13:12] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: what is not working? the link works here.
[13:12] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Set the configuration to manual and then input the time manually. Once you have it approximately right, switch back
[13:13] <vermapratyush_> dutchbuntu, when i type "grub2" in shell it does not open the grub prompt
[13:13] <genti> i have xubuntu and im trying to share some files over my home network. other computers are using windows. it did work before but yesterday i made an update of samba so its not working anymore
[13:13] <JonathanEllis> eberry: I am just going to setup ntp on my machine now as I did a fresh install not long ago
[13:13] <bazhang> vermapratyush_, what are you trying to do
[13:13] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: follow this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[13:14] <dutchbuntu> vermapratyush_: chapter 7 should help you
[13:14] <ciphergoth> eberry: btw, thanks for raising this, turned out mine used to be set to "manual", glad to hav fixed it
[13:14] <eberry> JonathanEllis & ciphergoth: I can't get the changes to commit in "manual" mode
[13:14] <JonathanEllis> eberry: What did you set the time to in manual mode?
[13:14] <ralchev> yesterday I installed ubuntu 9.10, but I have no sound :S and there are no hardware devices in System > Preferences > Sound ... any ideas ??
[13:14] <eberry> 14:14:55
[13:15] <ciphergoth> your date is wrong too btw
[13:15] <genti> i have xubuntu and im trying to share some files over my home network. other computers are using windows. it did work before but yesterday i made an update of samba so its not working anymore. any suggestion how to share these files again?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:15] <eberry> ciphergoth: My date is wrong?
[13:15] <ciphergoth> it's 31 days out
[13:15] <eberry> ciphergoth: that's a time (hours, minutes, seconds) not a date
[13:15] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Then what happens. Sorry I am in a different time zone to you so I cant easily mirror what you are doing
[13:15] <ciphergoth> 16 Oct 15:09:15 ntpdate[3511]: step time server <IP_ADDRESS> offset 2678399.673552 sec
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> 16th November 2009 here (GMT)
[13:16] <ciphergoth> note oct not lov
[13:16] <ciphergoth> and the offset is almost exactly 31 days
[13:16] <eberry> ciphergoth: I see now
[13:16] <eberry> ciphergoth: This is really horrible
[13:17] <eberry> JonathanEllis: All of the fields (time and date) are modifiable, but there is no "OK" button to commit the changes
[13:17] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I enable imap extension in php?
[13:17] <pll8020> mac_v: hello. do you know much about macbooks ??
[13:17] <dutchbuntu> eberry: I would use a different NTP server if I were you (ntp.ubuntu.com for example). Seems like something is wrong with Swiss NTP server...
[13:18] <ciphergoth> eberry: OK, try from the command line
[13:18] <JonathanEllis> eberry: No OK button on mine. It changes immediately if you look at your clock
[13:18] <ciphergoth> duchbuntu: what's the address of the faulty one?
[13:18] <jongbergs> ralchev: can you post the output of command lspci -v?
[13:18] <kostkon> ralchev, give in a terminal : lspci | grep audio
[13:18] <eberry> dutchbuntu: I am using pool.ntp.org, on the advice of another IRC expert from earlier today
[13:18] <KaiForce> what is up with NickServ
[13:18] <KaiForce> or down
[13:18] <ciphergoth> pool is a good choice
[13:18] <mac_v> pll8020: nope.. need to change my nick i guess ;)
[13:18] <jongbergs> ralchev: copy and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <dutchbuntu> eberry: okay
[13:18] <ciphergoth> sudo date --set
[13:18] <pll8020> mac_v yes
[13:18] <DawnLight> hello. what tools can help me to make a local repository. i'd like one in my flash drive. i'd like to have all the security and -updates there
[13:18] <ralchev> jongbergs, in a second
[13:19] <python_root> Guys my program is in futex_wait and dosent come out what shall i do
[13:19] <KaiForce> is there a utility for switching between RDP sessions quickly?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> DawnLight: could use aptoncd
[13:19] <ciphergoth> eberry:  see "man date"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> !aptoncd | DawnLight
[13:19] <mac_v> pll8020: hehe , me thinks apple should change their branding ;p
[13:19] <genti> any suggestion on how to share files on Xubuntu?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> genti: samba
[13:19] <DawnLight> thanks ActionParsnip1
[13:19] <JonathanEllis> eberry: dutchbuntu: The pool servers are random servers - you get a different one each time. That minimizes load on individual servers by distributing users randomly across servers
[13:19] <chu__> !welcome < chu__
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> chu__: other way dude
[13:20] <python_root> !walcome
[13:20] <JonathanEllis> eberry: The reason for having three servers is then ntp can see if one of them breaks because two will still agree
[13:20] <dutchbuntu> JonathanEllis: okay, I didn't know that. Thanx 4 sharing :-)
[13:20] <ralchev> jongbergs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/320000/
[13:20] <pll8020> mac_v: lol :P maybe.. my macbook is not powering off when i shutdown.. :S think it's a driver problem :P damn
[13:20] <chu__> !welcome  chu__
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> !welcome > chu__
[13:20] <fasta> How can I get hibernation to work? I have a swap partition of ridiculous size already (9GB) to be sure that it is large enough. How do I convince Ubuntu that I have a swap partition?
[13:20] <chu__> hah, thanks
[13:20] <genti> im using samba but since i updated it its not sharing anymore
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> fasta: sudo swapon /dev/partition_name_here
[13:20] <eberry> I was able to change my time by right-clicking on the GNOME applet and clicking on "preferences"
[13:20] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, already did that.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> genti: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[13:21] <jongbergs> ralchev: ok examining..
[13:21] <eberry> This changed the system time
[13:21] <JonathanEllis> eberry: As soon as I change the time manually it updates after a few seconds in the clock in the panel at the top of the screen. I dont have to press a button to make it happen
[13:21] <KaiForce> is nickserv down?
[13:21]  * Soyo has no dns service :( man interfaces does not seem to say how to add a dns entry
[13:21] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, after I reboot that shouldn't be needed, right? I have an entry in fstab.
[13:21] <eberry> But I still have too great a clock skew to get a kerberos ticket (what I'm trying to do in the first place)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: add the nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf
[13:21] <mac_v> ActionParsnip1: hi ... hmm , know have you heard about conky not displaying in gnome3? or something of the sort
[13:21] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, really, I think it is just broken.
[13:21] <kostkon> ralchev, it seems to be new hardware. w8, i would like to recommend you to install something
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> mac_v: i use neither, sorry
[13:21] <JonathanEllis> eberry: If you bear with me, I will set my time to swiss time along with you. Can you do the same things as I do them and let me know the outcome?
[13:21] <ralchev> ok thanks
[13:21] <Soyo> thanks
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> fasta: log a bug then
[13:22] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Yes, sorry for falling behind
[13:22] <mac_v> ActionParsnip1: ah.. np.. thanks ;)
[13:22] <fasta> ActionParsnip1, yes, was already doing that.
[13:22] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Its difficult to follow when several people are helping at once
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: you can even run a local dns to speed up web access
[13:22] <genti> hey thank u very much
[13:22] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Ready when you are
[13:22] <genti> it worked
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> genti: looks like it wasnt started or got stuck
[13:22] <python_root> ***Soyo : sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: gksudo gedit ;)
[13:22] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Time zone is set to zurich?
[13:23] <genti> yes thanks :)
[13:23] <kostkon> ralchev, could you install this package:  "linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic" and then reboot?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> genti: i'd try a reboot to make sure it comes up from cold
[13:23] <python_root> ActionParsnip1 not necessary
[13:23] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Administration > Time and Date > Time Zone = "Europe/Zurich"
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: gets users used to using the correct sudo app.
[13:23] <ralchev> kostkon, ok i'll do it quick
[13:23] <JonathanEllis> eberry: Can we take this into a private chat to avoid flooding the room - unless anyone else objects? If there is something we discover we will post it in the main room
[13:23] <genti> ActionParsnip1: I did a restart of samba and it worked. thank you
[13:24] <eberry> JonathanEllis: Fine by me
[13:24] <python_root> ActionParsnip1: whats the difference
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: in most cases its necessary so starting right will save issues later
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> !gksudo | python_root
[13:24] <CyberJack77> I want to reinstall my system (from 8.10 to 9.10). My system contains a 3 disk LVM for storage and a separate disk for the system and home. What steps to I need to take to gain access to my LVM after installing without losing data?
[13:24] <Soyo> Does running my own dns require having a large amount of space though?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> python_root: if you don't know the difference, how can you say its "not necessary"?
[13:24] <jongbergs> ralchev: from the output it seems that no sound drivers has been loaded , you may follow kostkon's suggestion
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: no, its very small
[13:24] <python_root> Soyo : not at al
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: means name to ip resolution will take 0ms, multiply that by all the times you use DNS and its quite a saving
[13:25] <ralchev> jongbergs, ok ill do it right now, yes ubuntu doesnt show hardware devices in System > preferences > sound
[13:25] <Soyo> Sounds like it!
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntugeek.com%2Flocal-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing-on-ubuntu-machine.html&ei=0VIBS4e0GcffnAfP08iVCw&usg=AFQjCNERy-gdl-XesEc3fldB9QdnTlwsPQ
[13:25] <JediMaster> ikonia, I've just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 without any problems, and have just finished do-release-upgrade on 9.04 to karmic/9.10, I've just noticed that when the kernel gets installed grub's update scripts say: "Ignoring non-Xen Kernel on Xen domU host: vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-server"
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> i hate google
[13:25] <FloodBot3> ActionParsnip1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <ikonia> JediMaster: ooh, that's interesting
[13:26] <Anorien> hi. could someone please give me some good documentation on how to install LAMP on ubuntu 9.10? ty
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: you will need web based DNS too to get the IPs so your local dNS can learn
[13:26] <kleftisx> hello, i have just installed Ubuntu 9.10 (64bit), i have log on and update using recommended updates. After i restart the system...ubuntu seems to load (ubuntu icon) and just a black screen with the keyboard not working or mouse. just black screen. any ideas what caused that problem?
[13:26] <jongbergs> ralchev: you could also test if the live cd will be able to detect your sound device.
[13:26] <dAnon1> networking DOESN'T WORK in 9.10 what the...? Can't view other computers (windows machines) neither print through network
[13:26] <JediMaster> ikonia, any ideas what it means? =) isn't the domU the host server (rather than the VM?)
[13:26] <ralchev> jongbergs, ok , if this doesnt work
[13:26] <ralchev> im rebooting
[13:26] <ikonia> JediMaster: correct
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: can you ping names or IPs of the other systems?
[13:26] <dAnon1> why do people always have to screw things up with new version
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: lose the emotional stuff, its not helping anything
[13:27] <dAnon1> I see them in the places
[13:27] <areay> hi everyone... i think i'm logged in somewhere else on my network through NIS... how can i tell which machine i'm logged into?
[13:27] <dAnon1> but can't browse machines
[13:27] <dutchbuntu> Anorien: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[13:27] <ikonia> JediMaster: seems to suggest it's not running on a xen box, but as you said, it is
[13:27] <dAnon1> see computer names
[13:27] <dAnon1> but can't browse any of them
[13:27] <ikonia> areay: close your terminals
[13:27] <dAnon1> and I can't add a printer
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: does your ubuntu username exist on the other systems and have suitable access?
[13:28] <JediMaster> ikonia, I've been told it is (I don't have control over domU)
[13:28] <dAnon1> dunno I don't care for it atm
[13:28] <ikonia> JediMaster: ooh really, you're not %100 certain though
[13:28] <dAnon1> I want to have my computer able to view other computers
[13:28] <adi1> hi all. anyone from belgium here?
[13:28] <areay> ikonia, how do i view/close current terminal sessions?
[13:28] <ikonia> areay: type "exit" in it
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: you most likely have a workgroup so must maintain usernames manually, make sure the matching ubuntu username and password are on the systems you need access to and make sure they have correct access
[13:29] <DawnLight> i don't like aptoncd. is there a cli tool, please?
[13:29] <JediMaster> ikonia, 99% certain it is, all the kernels before have come pre-installed as -xen and I have been told before it was
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: i know thats what we are aiming at, typing pointless whiny stuff doesnt add ny value to the flow
[13:29] <Soyo> how do I reset the resolv.conf? ifconfig down up?
[13:29] <ikonia> JediMaster: I have seen something similar a long time ago on ubuntu 6.06 hosts thinking about it, where the people supplying the xen host where not using %100 official ubuntu images, so when they upgraded the stock ubuntu install caused pain
[13:29] <dAnon1> I edited some files and added my name and workgroup nothing happens
[13:29] <ikonia> Soyo: it's a flat file, /etc/resolv.conf
[13:29] <Soyo> oh ok
[13:29] <jongbergs> Soyo: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:30] <areay> ikonia, my problem is there's 30 computers here, and i'm logged into 2 of them... i wanted to know if there was an easy way of seeing the ip address or hostname of the computers i'm logged into
[13:30] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 neither does changing working stuff from 9.04 for not working in 9.10
[13:30] <ikonia> areay: not through nis, no
[13:30] <JediMaster> ikonia, yeah they've had a few minor changes, but it's upgraded 8.04->8.10->9.04 fine
[13:30] <dAnon1> how not to get angry
[13:30] <python_root>  Soyo : restart ur network
[13:30] <ikonia> JediMaster: doesn't mean it will go all the way
[13:30] <ralchev> jongbergs, kostkon , thanks for the help! this package worked ;)
[13:30] <ikonia> dAnon1: you know this is ubuntu support, please stick tot hat topic
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: add these lines to the file: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>      and      nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:30] <kostkon> ralchev, ;)
[13:30] <ikonia> JediMaster: that's the only similar thing I can think of
[13:30] <om26er> !test
[13:30] <Anorien> dutchbuntu:  ty. one more thing: would be better to install them on by one, or the whole package at once?
[13:30] <dAnon1> I don't see how am I not talking about Ubuntu ikonia
[13:31] <jongbergs> ralchev: good to hear :)
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> dAnon1: well you have 9.10 now so you have to deal with the situation. Do youwant my help or are yu just going to moan?
[13:31] <dAnon1> reread ikonia
[13:31] <JediMaster> ikonia, I've not rebooted yet, so still have some use of the machine, do I need to find a -xen kernel for it?
[13:31] <dutchbuntu> Anorien: I'd follow the tasksel option
[13:31] <JediMaster> ikonia, as far as I could see the -virtual linux image didn't install a -xen kernel
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: you should then restart networking and the settings wil be in place
[13:31] <Anorien> dutchbuntu: thank you
[13:31] <ikonia> JediMaster: I don't think there is a -xen kernel any more (not %100 certain on that though )
[13:31] <Soyo> actually I did not need to restart networking to get it to work
[13:32] <ikonia> JediMaster: if you do a search do you see a xen kernel ?
[13:32] <dAnon1> ActionParsnip1 of course I want your help sorry if I offended you or something
[13:32] <dutchbuntu> Anorien: pleasure
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> Soyo: cool, good enough for me, if you use the guide I pasted you can install dnsmasq and have your own local dns
[13:32] <zippy> how can low-graphic-mode-message on start-up be avoided?