[00:01] <Firefishe> tmurase:  any insights?
[00:06] <tmurase> the /tmp/orbit- messages are essentially permissions problems.  You should fix those, but it's odd that they're occurring
[00:07] <tmurase> I don't see anything fatal in your error log
[00:09] <Firefishe> ...
[00:09] <Firefishe> Well, I guess I'm going to have to do some more digging.
[00:10] <Firefishe> I wish everything was as it was in the earlier days of linux:  you had everything for your user, and all the individual desktops in their own .file
[00:10] <Firefishe> that way, kde3 and kde4 would have separate hierarchies, and could exist together, and my xfce4 would have .xfce4 and there wouldn't be any cross-folder nonsense
[00:11] <Firefishe> It could be that X is just hanging on some weird program that the saved x session is expecting, too
[00:12] <Firefishe> I appreciate the assistance, tmurase.  Thank you
[00:12] <Firefishe> Well, I"m going to check something...bye for now
[00:12] <Firefishe> :)  thanks again
[00:14] <wobbiebobbie> hi yaw does anybody know how to put icons on the desktop
[00:25] <meatcar> is there anythign that i can do to order the icons in xfce 4.6?
[00:25] <meatcar> on the desktop.
[00:35] <Wunderbar> so, xubuntu has thoroughly annoyed me today
[00:35] <Wunderbar> can't even get past the annoying screen with the stupid rodent like thing and the bluish background....
[00:36] <Wunderbar> why? you ask...who knows why...
[00:37] <vidd> Wunderbar, the screen with the loading bar?
[00:38] <Wunderbar> it's the one after you've selected your session...no loading bar in my config
[00:38] <Wunderbar> but it's really, really annoying
[00:38] <Wunderbar> there's absolutely no reason why it should be misbehaving
[00:39] <Wunderbar> it was working this morning and no settings have been changed since then
[00:39] <vidd> so you get to the point where you enter your name and password?
[00:39] <vidd> so you get to the point where you enter your name and password? Wunderbar
[00:40] <Wunderbar> I get past that, I enter my details and then I get a flash screen of sorts...then a flash screen
[00:40] <Wunderbar> then....flash screen
[00:41] <vidd> your /home directory is probably over quota
[00:41] <Wunderbar> it flickers black at the point when it would normally show my delightful desktop, then...flash screen
[00:41] <vidd> get to a tty and run "df"
[00:41] <Wunderbar> idgi- Im not that smart- you going to have to explain as plainly as possible...
[00:42] <vidd> ctr + alt + f2 key combination will take you to tty2
[00:42] <vidd> put in your user name and password
[00:42] <vidd> type "df"
[00:43] <vidd> check your avalable disk-space your your /home partition
[00:43] <vidd> if its 98% or more, you over quota
[00:45] <vidd> Wunderbar, any luck there?
[00:46]  * vidd gets this when he downloads alot of stuff and uses up all his hard drive space
[00:47] <vidd> alls well and good untilyou restart
[00:48] <vidd> welcome back Wunderbar
[00:48] <Wunderbar> hey vidd, could you repeat what you were saying vis-a-vis tty2?
[00:48] <vidd> can you get into tty2?
[00:48] <Wunderbar> yah
[00:49] <Wunderbar> what do I do from there?
[00:49] <vidd> type "df" (no quotes of course)
[00:49] <Wunderbar> and if Im over 98 percent then I delete crap....
[00:49] <Wunderbar> well, Im not
[00:49] <Wunderbar> now way
[00:50] <vidd> so thenext step is to make sure you own your home directory
[00:50] <Wunderbar> explain, please
[00:51] <vidd> if your home directory is /home/wunderbar then type "sudo chown -Rf wunderbar:wunderbar /home/wunderbar"
[00:53] <Wunderbar> and that should enable me to log into the xubuntu set up that had no problems earlier, but suddenly became uncooperative?
[00:54] <vidd> yeah....if you somehow took away your ownership of your home diectory
[00:54] <Wunderbar> -- r is an invalid option...
[00:54] <vidd> try it
[00:54] <vidd> the r is cappital
[00:55] <vidd> and it -Rf ... not --Rf
[00:55] <Wunderbar> silly me
[00:55] <vidd> no worries
[00:57] <vidd> Wunderbar, any luck?
[00:57] <Wunderbar> uh, got side tracked...
[00:58] <Wunderbar> cannot access /home/wunderbar/.gvfs?
[00:58] <vidd> Wunderbar, did you "sudo" that command?
[00:58] <Wunderbar> :(, yes
[01:00] <Wunderbar> Ill sort it in the am
[01:00] <Wunderbar> I'm pretty tired
[01:00] <Wunderbar> thanks
[01:00] <vidd> just "sudo rm /home/wunderbar/.gvfs
[01:01] <Wunderbar> lol - now it's telling me that sudo/home/wunderbar/.gvfs is a directory...
[01:02] <vidd> Wunderbar, ooppss.... rm -Rf
[01:02] <Wunderbar> denied :(
[01:02] <Wunderbar> srsly, we'll try again tomorrow...
[01:03] <Wunderbar> we can beat this pesky thing...
[01:03] <vidd> Wunderbar, this would mean that you are somehow in RO mode (read only)
[01:03] <vidd> because sudo = god
[01:04] <Wunderbar> :(
[01:04] <Wunderbar> I fail at computers...and life :(
[01:05] <vidd> Wunderbar, you are not a failure
[01:05] <vidd> you use linux =]
[01:06] <Wunderbar> :D
[01:09] <wobbiebobbie> im just having trouble networking ubuntu 8.04 and xubuntu 8.04
[01:10] <vidd> Wunderbar, did you add anything strange befor you last logged out?
[01:10] <Wunderbar> nope...not a thing...i was using open office this morning
[01:11] <Wunderbar> then I didn't use my machine for 5-6 hours
[01:11] <Wunderbar> then, poof
[01:11] <vidd> have you rebooted since you last logged in?
[01:12] <Wunderbar> yep
[01:12] <vidd> im out of ideas =\
[01:12] <Wunderbar> likewise...i'm sure it will sort itself out...
[01:13] <Wunderbar> usually does where Im concerned
[01:13] <vidd> oh...have you run updates?
[01:13] <vidd> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:14] <vidd> in command line (tty2)
[01:14] <vidd> since you cant get into your desktop
[01:14] <vidd> Wunderbar, we know your system is not totally fubar'd cuzz you can log into tty
[01:15] <Wunderbar> well, at least I have that much...i can still log into other sessions just not xfce
[01:15] <Wunderbar> which I was quite enjoying
[01:16] <vidd> so...then the issue is the session
[01:16] <vidd> that makes all the difference!
[01:16] <Wunderbar> did I not say that before...silly me
[01:17] <Wunderbar> okay, so what I should I be looking to do to rectify?
[01:17] <vidd> you probably did....and i misunderstood
[01:18] <wobbiebobbie> hi wunderbar I just like to know the problem you have with xubuntu
[01:19] <vidd> you should be able to remove your ~/.config/xfce4 file, and then when you log in again, it will be rebuilt
[01:19] <Wunderbar> well, can't log into my xfce session, it allows me to enter the password, then I get the flash screen, then at the point when it would usually show my desktop I get a black flicker, then flash screen
[01:20] <vidd> right....
[01:20] <vidd> so if you delete the session, then the session will be rebuilt
[01:20] <wobbiebobbie> can you  get to terminal
[01:20] <Wunderbar> yep
[01:21] <Wunderbar> delete session...what's the best way?
[01:21] <wobbiebobbie> have you try dpkg-reconfigure
[01:22] <wobbiebobbie> I got stuck in log in once and no desktop on ubuntu before
[01:22] <vidd> Wunderbar, your sessions are saved in ~/.cache/sessions
[01:23] <Wunderbar> xfce-session-wunderbar:0.bak
[01:23] <Wunderbar> xfce-session-wunderbar:0
[01:23] <vidd> Wunderbar, try deleting them both
[01:23]  * vidd has to go....
[01:24] <vidd> ill be leaving the window open though
[01:24] <Wunderbar> how would I go about getting a new xfce session?
[01:24] <vidd> Wunderbar, delete those sessions
[01:24] <vidd> when you log in, then a new one will be made
[01:24] <Wunderbar> done, and done...
[01:24] <Wunderbar> merci
[01:24] <vidd> you in?
[01:26] <vidd> Wunderbar, you good now?
[01:30] <customer> how do you update with commandline
[01:30] <vidd> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:30] <customer> thanks
[01:31] <vidd> or do you mean upgrade?
[01:31] <customer> no just update
[01:31] <vidd> there ya go then
[01:31] <vidd> =]
[01:32] <vidd> others prefer aptitude over apt-get
[01:32] <customer> i am running bare minamum system
[01:32] <artistxe> hey. anyone here use windows as a secondary os ? I was just curious what (if there is a command like this ) does cal show in command shell ?
[01:32] <vidd> both are installed by default
[01:34] <vidd> artistxe, windows cmd is not so sophisticated
[01:34] <artistxe> vidd . I know. I was curious though
[01:34] <vidd> "file not found"
[01:34] <artistxe> so no calendar command either I suppose
[01:35] <customer> vidd i do not have aptitude installed
[01:36] <vidd> wow...how did you manage to do that?
[01:36] <vidd> what distro are you running?
[01:36] <customer> found a article on distrowatch explained whole thing
[01:36] <customer> i am running xubuntu 9.04
[01:37] <vidd> ok...so what distobution did you get?
[01:37] <vidd> if you are running any debian-based distro, then you have apt-get and aptitude
[01:37] <customer> i installed using alternative cd
[01:37] <customer> where is aptitude at then
[01:38] <customer> if you install a commandline system then add desktop you do not have aptititude
[01:39] <vidd> is the system already installed and rebooted?
[01:39] <customer> yeah
[01:39] <vidd> then you have aptitude
[01:39] <vidd> ubuntu-minimal depends on it
[01:39] <vidd> and therefore will not install without it
[01:39] <customer> when i updated it did not ask me to restart
[01:40] <vidd> if you dont want to use it, thats fine
[01:40] <vidd> but dont spread lies
[01:40] <vidd> you dont need to restart when you update
[01:40] <customer> i did not restart i miss understood you
[01:40] <vidd> you only need to reboot after you first install
[01:41] <vidd> so the install disk is still in the drive?
[01:41] <customer> no
[01:41] <vidd> so you rebooted then since install?
[01:42] <customer> when i installed i had to contol alt del to reboot cause it was command line system
[01:42] <customer> if aptitude is here in operating system can you tell me where it is
[01:43] <vidd> i really dont understand the question
[01:43] <customer> is aptitude the thing that tells you when they are updates
[01:43] <vidd> its in the same place as apt-get
[01:43] <vidd> no...that is update-manager
[01:44] <customer> i have no update manager installed
[01:44] <vidd> aptitude is a command line tool, just like apt-get
[01:44] <vidd> customer, that is fine...you still have aptitude installed
[01:45] <vidd> customer, so, do you have any other questions?
[01:45] <customer> well i have never used it because i have always used apt-get
[01:45] <customer> thanks for help
[01:45] <vidd> ashave i....i just stated that aptitude was a popular alternative to apt-get
[02:36] <vanden> Hey. Long time ubuntu user. New to xubuntu.
[02:36] <vanden> I'm having a problem starting conky when I boot
[02:36] <meatcar> does anyone know how to organaze the desktop icons in 4.6?
[02:36] <vanden> Anyone here have experience with conky?
[02:36] <meatcar> vanden, i have problems with conky too. i just stopped using it.
[02:36] <meatcar> lol
[02:37] <vanden> meatcar: :-( I was using cruncheee on my eee.
[02:37] <vanden> It has conky. I came to like it
[02:39] <vanden> Ok, looks like no help is coming. So, night all.
[05:42] <computer> hi how do i get my audio to work?
[05:42] <computer> everything else seems to work
[05:55] <R1cochet> turn on ur speakers
[05:55] <computer> its a laptop
[06:39] <srobinr> Hello, anyone available for assistance on a quick question I have?
[06:42] <tavasti> !question
[06:48] <srobinr> is there a way i can put xubuntu install on my 2g usb drive and install it on my pc?
[06:49] <KoshB5> I'm in need of some help. Installed ver9.04 alternate on compaq 5441 and can't access internet. It has a PCI video card (ATI based)
[06:50] <KoshB5> the eht01 is connected to a DHP server that is connected to another XUbuntu system only. Goal is to share the wifi internet between the tow.
[06:53] <tavasti> srobinr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:55] <tavasti> KoshB5, does your compaq get ip address at all from dhcp server?
[06:56] <srobinr> ,
[06:56] <srobinr> tavasti, Thank you.
[06:58] <KoshB5> tavasti: the dhcp router is not hooked to internet. The internet is a usb WiFi. I can connect to WiFi network but no internet
[07:00] <KoshB5> the eth01 is configured for auto ip address.
[07:24] <XuanHy> hello all :)
[07:24] <XuanHy> Bình thường mà Huy
[07:25] <XuanHy> Tớ có thấy làm sao đâu :D
[08:48] <zoredache> is it just me, or does kill -L not list the signals like man kill says it should?
[08:50] <_Pete_> no
[08:51] <_Pete_> same here
[11:11] <DiecastMessiah> Hailz all
[11:40] <Relam__> hi
[11:40] <Relam__> after installing xubuntu yesterday i encuntered a issue while booting
[11:40] <Relam__> it says sometimes can not findroot device and lands up in busybox
[11:41] <Relam__> when iot finds it it takes ages to boot into xubuntu
[11:41] <Relam__> while booting it posts io error on device hda8
[11:41] <Relam__> but when bootied and i look into dev there is no hda8
[11:52] <dahaic> btw, does anyone know, what is gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ?
[11:52] <dahaic> it is still in update manager but unchecked
[12:08] <ablomen> dahaic, its nonfree codecs
[12:09] <ablomen> so for things like mpeg3 etc
[12:10] <dahaic> ok, thanks :) so I will not install it for now, just when needed :)
[12:49] <rythmcl> I'm having a massive problem on 2 xubuntu computer I can not ping any other computers using there domain name come.home.local? Any suggestions?
[12:51] <rythmcl> nslookup can find the computers ips but i can ping them I can on my other computers.
[12:51] <rythmcl>  nslookup can find the computers ips but i can not ping them I can on my other computers
[12:56] <Abiri4> works for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581325
[12:59] <Abiri4> rythmcl, any success?
[13:00] <rythmcl> No, As my DNS server is DHCP assigned by a OpenBSD server. I have never experieced this before.
[13:02] <Abiri4> rythmcl, did you install winbind?
[13:02] <rythmcl> yeap
[13:02] <Abiri4> rythmcl, added "winbind" to /etc/nsswitch.conf?
[13:03] <rythmcl> Yes. What I can not understand is why nslookup is working.
[13:03] <Abiri4> oops, the "wins",not "winbind"
[13:08] <Abiri4> rythmcl, other computers which you can ping from is in the same network with "problem computer"?
[13:11] <rythmcl> i can ping every I need two with IP's and computer name with dns extension.
[14:52] <J_Litewski> how do you add a package to synaptic?
[14:57] <wilsonj> I'm running 64bit 9.04 at the moment.. I have a core 2 quad, and it seems as though only one core at a time is being used.  Why would that be?
[14:57] <wilsonj> wonder if I need an smp kernel..
[15:05] <wilsonj> J_Litewski, why would you want to add a package to synaptic?
[15:05] <wilsonj> J_Litewski, why not just make a .deb?
[15:06] <J_Litewski> wilsonj, i just want to know if it can be done :)
[15:07] <J_Litewski> my project is still nowhere close to be on synaptic
[15:10] <Pres-Gas> Okay, that is better.  Could not remember in finch how to list users on the side...*whew*
[15:45] <Slonkie> I'm having problem playing flash movies, i'm able to play them at youtube, but when i go anywhere else (like facebook, i can't play any of those). anyone know a way to fix this?
[15:46] <Slonkie> I'm using flashplugin-nonfree
[15:49] <Pres-Gas> Slonkie, you running 64 bit or 32 bit and what version of Xubuntu?
[15:51] <Slonkie> 32bit and i'm in Jaunty
[16:11] <Pres-Gas> Slonkie, are you running any plugins like AdBlock?
[16:12] <Slonkie> yes adblock plus
[16:13] <J_Litewski> SLonkie, that may be your problem
[16:13] <J_Litewski> do you have filterset-g installed too?
[16:14] <Pres-Gas> I would try to temporarily disable adblock and try FB again
[16:14] <Pres-Gas> That would confirm it
[16:14] <Slonkie> No
[16:14] <Slonkie> I did try that, it doesn't help :(
[16:14] <Pres-Gas> Running any other privacy/anti-ad plugins, Slonkie?
[16:15] <Slonkie> Nope
[16:16] <Slonkie> I have "shockwave flash" Is this right? :/
[16:16] <J_Litewski> Slonkie, try renaming the .mozilla file and try again
[16:17] <J_Litewski> that's in your ~/ directory
[16:17] <Slonkie> what exacly should i try agian?
[16:18] <J_Litewski> Slonkie, i had problems with flash before, i renamed my .mozilla folder in my ~/ directory and flash worked
[16:18] <Slonkie> what should i rename it to?
[16:18] <J_Litewski> .mozilla-bkp
[16:21] <Slonkie> No diden't help either.
[16:22] <Besogon> J_Litewski, flash player installs exactly in that dir. If you rename that you have to install Adobe fkash player again. In my opinion
[16:22] <J_Litewski> ah
[16:22] <J_Litewski> ok
[16:27] <Slonkie> i wonder if theres an alternative to flashplugin-nonfree?
[16:28] <J_Litewski> Slonkie, there is, but if the offical plugin doesn't work atm, then the others will not work very well
[16:30]  * genii gnaws on gnash
[16:33] <Besogon> I use flash plagin from Adobe. And it satisfy.
[16:33] <Besogon> for me
[16:41] <Slonkie> does it show in firefox in addons, Besogon ?
[16:44] <Besogon> Slonkie, no. I downloaded it from official site.  It not hard. You know English better than I.It is important to read information when the installer is working.
[16:53] <Slonkie> what did you do?
[16:54] <Besogon> http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/
[16:55] <Besogon> You wont compile any files. Installer will copy what it need in a right dir. not hard
[16:57] <Slonkie> Well it doesn't work unfortunaitly
[16:58] <Besogon> Slonkie, What does not work exactly?
[16:59] <Slonkie> adobe flash plugin
[16:59] <ruadh> Hi all
[17:01] <Besogon> Slonkie, Have you installed driver for graphic card?
[17:02] <Slonkie> well.. i've activated one from the "Hardware drivers"-"application"
[17:05] <Besogon> Slonkie, I dont know why it doesn't work for you. I have jast downloaded flash player and installed it and it work.
[17:06] <Slonkie> Does it show up in firefox in the addons bar?
[17:07] <Besogon> Im going to show you
[17:08] <Besogon> whait
[17:09] <Besogon> !paste
[17:10] <Besogon> !pasteimage
[17:10] <Besogon> !image
[17:10] <Besogon> hm... How can I paste image?
[17:12] <Slonkie> well.. you can go to http://peecee.dk
[17:16] <Besogon> Is it a joke? I dont undestand that language
[17:16] <Besogon> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/168815
[17:17] <Besogon> See
[17:17] <Besogon> look at that
[17:17] <Besogon> Slonkie,
[17:18] <ruadh> Besogon, Who's in that pic?
[17:19] <Besogon> ruadh, dunno
[17:19] <ruadh> you should know.
[17:19] <Besogon> ruadh, It was firs that I thought at Youtobe
[17:19] <ruadh> ah
[17:19] <Besogon> why?
[17:20] <ruadh> does't mater
[17:22] <Besogon> what is he talking about. I have undestanded thomesing about superman ))
[17:24] <Besogon> ruadh, what does he talking about? Why does he play with toys? ))
[17:25] <genii> !ot
[17:25] <Besogon> ruadh, where are you from? no metter. Do you know, that first supermans legeng was born in Russia?
[17:29] <Besogon> ruadh, It was about 3 knights, that fought with Mongols empire. It was many many many many years ago.
[17:32] <Besogon> Actually story about super men have every country.
[17:44] <Besogon> Slonkie, Are you still here?
[17:46] <J_Litewski> wow, freenode suffered a massive netsplit it looks like
[17:47] <Slonkie> Besogon sorry i'm back now.
[17:48] <Slonkie> well doesn't help me atall anyway
[17:48] <J_Litewski> heh
[17:48] <Besogon> Did you notice this when installed flash plagin? : NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[17:48] <Besogon>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[19:04] <kora> heya i have just installed the new jaunty dist, and have a problem. i just plugged in my external monitor and changed to another wallpaper, then all the colors of the wallpaper get inverted and is displays the inverted wallpaper,... if i change the wallpaper the other wallpaper is displayed inverted too,... has any1 experienced that too?
[19:06] <kora> apart from that, xubuntu feels a bit laggy, which it didnt b4
[19:32] <kora> i narrowed down the problem: after a resolution change my wallpaper gets displayed with inverted colors and it stays like this until i do a reboot.
[19:34] <J_Litewski> kora, are you on a laptop?
[19:34] <kora> yep
[19:34] <J_Litewski> does it go away if you press Fn+F3 when your desktop inverts colors?
[19:35] <J_Litewski> i have a problem like yours, but thats when i'm trying to do a dual monitor setup
[19:35] <J_Litewski> it funks up my colors on startup
[19:35] <kora> ill try it, although i think the button just does a "xrandr --auto"
[19:36] <kora> second ill try it
[19:36] <J_Litewski> a simple Fn+F3 fixes it for me
[19:36] <J_Litewski> but i also have a SiS videocard too (which epically fails)
[19:37] <kora> for it only switches on the lcd on the laptop
[19:38] <J_Litewski> thats what it does on mine too
[19:38] <J_Litewski> but it fixes my inverted colors
[19:38] <kora> sadly it doesnt work for me ^^
[19:38] <kora> is your dualscreen setup with xrandr?
[19:38] <J_Litewski> hmm
[19:38] <J_Litewski> no, dual screen doesn't work for me
[19:38] <kora> ah k i c
[19:39] <J_Litewski> i get the same screen on two different monitors
[19:39] <kora> maybe here its the intel gma driver wich is still kinda buggy in jaunty
[19:39] <J_Litewski> maybe
[19:42] <kora> hm im really thinking of going back to 8.10,... seems like 9.04 still has some major flaws
[19:44] <forces> use LTS
[19:46] <kora> lts?
[19:46] <J_Litewski> Long Term Support
[19:47] <kora> ah k
[19:47] <Roylap> åäö what do you see?
[19:49] <kora> an "a" with a circle on it, and an ä and an ö
[19:49] <kora> the last two are a with two dots on it and o with two dots on it
[19:50] <Roylap> thats great news
[20:00] <Roylap> hmm, my status window dissapeared in irssi. How to I get it back to (1) ?
[20:12] <super_hoops1967> hey, i've messed up my xubuntu can anyone help please?
[20:13] <Pres-Gas> !question
[20:14] <super_hoops1967> well i was trying to get my xubuntu to look like mac osx. i've changed something and now everytime i open a window the APPLICATIONS/PLACES disappear and it doesn't let me move the window around.  also window tweak manager no longer opens :(
[20:16] <DetroitLibertyP2> is there a question in there somewhere?
[20:16] <firestorm> hello. Can you suggest a very lightweight browser?
[20:16] <super_hoops1967> how do i get it so whatever window i have open doesn't cover the top bar (applications/places) and also lets me move my window around the screen
[20:18] <SiDi> firestorm: opera (proprietary) and midori
[20:18] <SiDi> for midori, get it on launchpad, there's a PPA for the latest version afaik
[20:19] <genii> firestorm: dillo
[20:19] <SiDi> super_hoops1967: i suggest you remove the files that made your xfce bug, and reinstall xfce4-panel
[20:19] <firestorm> PPA... isn't unsafe?
[20:19] <super_hoops1967> is there anyway of finding out what i've installed? i was stupidly installing without taking much note (stupid i know). and how to i reinstall the xfce4 panel?
[20:22] <SiDi> firestorm: its from an xfce developer afaik. You can aswell get it on xfce's git and compile it ^^
[20:22] <SiDi> its just that there have been 4 versions since then
[20:22] <vassalli> sera
[20:22] <vassalli> azz
[20:22] <vassalli> no italy
[20:22] <firestorm> vassali compare no....
[20:22] <SiDi> super_hoops1967: i cant say what you installed :) but for the panel "sudo apt-get reinstall xfce4-panel"
[20:22] <SiDi> i hope it'll help
[20:22] <SiDi> !it | vassalli
[20:25] <super_hoops1967> just tried that sudo apt and it comes up with E: invalid operation re-install
[20:26] <SiDi> "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfce4-panel" sorry
[20:28] <super_hoops1967> brilliant cheers thats just finished. will try and remember what i've installed thats cocked the rest up :)
[20:57] <Roylap> Where do I mount /dev/sdb2, /media/ or /mnt/ ?
[20:58] <SiDi> as you wish ? :D
[21:00] <Roylap> Hmm okay I choose media then. #sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ <-- correct command?
[21:01] <SiDi> nooo :O
[21:02] <SiDi> "sudo mkdir /media/MyDisk2 && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/MyDisk2"
[21:02] <SiDi> dont mount on /media itself
[21:02] <SiDi> only mount on empty folders
[21:05] <Roylap> yay works!
[21:05] <Roylap> thanx SiDi
[21:05] <SiDi> Roylap: you're welcome
[21:23] <Roylap> SiDi: got more for you! Thinking about making it auto mount using fstab. Did I get it right?
[21:23] <Roylap> #/dev/sdb2 /media/zulu ntfs defaults 0 1
[21:29] <SiDi> erm
[21:29] <SiDi> dunno about ntfs ^^
[21:29] <SiDi> it looks ok
[21:29] <SiDi> ntfs-3g maybe instead of ntfs... really not sure
[21:48] <Slonkie> ntfs-3g is what i'm using
[21:48] <Slonkie> !ntfs-3g
[21:48] <Slonkie> if you want read/write that's what you need!
[21:50] <Roylap> okay will go with ntfs-3g then, thanx
[21:52] <SiDi> Heya Slonkie :)
[21:52] <Slonkie> Good evening SiDi :)
[22:07] <SiDi> knome: ping :P
[22:27] <knome> SiDi, pång?
[22:32] <SiDi> Wanna give me your point of view on some xfwm ? :P
[22:32] <Wunderbar> how do I go about removing all the unused apps from the menu list?
[22:32] <knome> SiDi, sure.
[22:32] <SiDi> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=104180
[22:32] <SiDi> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Alvaro+XFWM+theme?content=104246
[22:33] <SiDi> I only packaged them tho (+ added a button to hanso)
[22:33] <SiDi> currently trying to make more buttons to alvaro
[22:33] <SiDi> the gtk's are from dashua
[22:34] <knome> imho the titlebar and menubar contrast is a bit problematic
[22:34] <knome> in alvaro
[22:35] <knome> hmmh, i don't like the completely round tool icons on hanso
[22:35] <Wunderbar> has anyone come across an icon  like high contrast inverse but small?
[23:15] <martha_> Hi does anyone here know about the dial via conexant modems, I know there is an open source driver, a proprietary one that half works if you pay for it and an dell one that I havent seen to many positive posts about
[23:16] <martha_> but the info is quite dated, I think
[23:17] <martha_> I am going to get high speed internet soon I just need dial up to work for awhile
[23:17] <Wunderbar> histo, I can get rid of all the excess apps in my menu...how do I do that?
[23:18] <Wunderbar> can't*
[23:18] <martha_> Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 08)
[23:18] <genii> martha_: I've dealt extensively with this subject, to much frustration
[23:19] <martha_> I have the linuxant sources I think I just need to compile for my kernel, but I dont know how
[23:19] <genii> martha_: The linuxant one is only good for 14.4 unless you pay them
[23:20] <martha_> I know
[23:20] <genii> martha_: What is device:vendor ?
[23:20] <DetroitLibertyP2> Wunderbar: have you tried uninstalling them from the synaptic menu?
[23:21] <genii> lspci -nn            should tell it
[23:21] <martha_> abouve
[23:21] <martha_> above
[23:21] <Wunderbar> Id have to completely remove kubuntu
[23:21] <Wunderbar> it won't let me just remove the apps
[23:21] <martha_> genii, 01:0b.0 Communication controller [0780]: Conexant Systems, Inc. HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem [14f1:1033] (rev 08)
[23:22] <genii> martha_: "Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 08)" does NOT contain vendor:device code in it. You want to look for something like 14f1:ancd
[23:22] <Wunderbar> what would be be the best way to remove kubuntu- what with it being a complete waste of space...
[23:22] <genii> martha_: OK, hang on a bit
[23:22] <martha_> sorry
[23:24] <genii> martha_: Unfortunately 14f1:1033 is not a combination which the Dell full-speed Ubuntu driver will see and set up. So you have two opetions: Pay for Linuxant, or else try to go the manual route.
[23:25] <martha_> genii, what is the manual route
[23:25] <genii> martha_: I'll give you link shortly
[23:25] <martha_> and where did you find that info
[23:26] <genii> martha_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190728
[23:26] <genii> martha_: I have atm over 500 Conexant modems which I'm also trying to get working in linux
[23:27] <martha_> genii, pm
[23:27] <genii> Without paying Linuxant for that many licenses.
[23:27] <martha_> right
[23:27] <martha_> that is silly
[23:27] <genii> martha_: I do not give assistance in private message, only in public channel. Sorry if this may be an inconvenience for you
[23:28] <martha_> genii, ok if I had the full speed code what would I do?
[23:29] <genii> martha_: There is no "full speed code". There's just a binary you would get from Linuxant in that case which you would just install according to their site
[23:30] <martha_> ok
[23:32] <genii> martha_: In your case, you can get the HCF one from them at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/downloads-license.php       after agreeing to the agreement there
[23:33] <genii> The instructions to install it are on the next screen after that one
[23:33] <martha_> pm?
[23:34] <genii> martha_: Again, public channel only please.
[23:34] <martha_> ok
[23:39] <genii> martha_: The forum link I gave sometimes works and sometimes not to build the driver from the last-known source code which was available for Conexants. Even then it sontains what are called "binary blobs" or proprietary stuff, etc. I've had success and failures both with doing it this way. If I had only a handful of modems I'd let Linuxant extort me :)
[23:41] <martha_> genii, what would you call this latestgenericsources/hsfmodem-<IP_ADDRESS>full.tar.gz
[23:42] <genii> martha_: That is the Dell code for the drivers they are currently using. Those are also from Linuxant, btw.
[23:43] <martha_> ok
[23:43] <genii> If your Vendor:Device code does not meet what is currently in a Dell which is provided with a Conexant driver from them, it son't work.
[23:44] <genii> son't ->won't
[23:44] <martha_> ok