[05:35] <pitti> Good morning
[05:52] <pitti> @pilot in
[05:54] <sarnold> "beta 1 freeze" still? I tohught the beta1 announcement was already sent?
[06:04] <pitti> sarnold: right, I guess it was just forgotten to be changed; done
[06:04] <sarnold> thanks pitti :) guten morgen :)
[06:04] <pitti> sarnold: good evening to you!
[06:04] <sarnold> thank you :)
[06:40] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, hi, please skip fpc/armhf testsuite and python-pysam where it failed? thanks
[06:40] <LocutusOfBorg> fpc-armhf can be ignored because it isn't a regression in the current fpc
[06:40] <LocutusOfBorg> and pysam... NBS
[06:42] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[07:17] <tjaalton> sigh.. anyone managed to mount zfs filesystems with schroot/sbuild
[07:17] <tjaalton> ?
[07:17] <tjaalton> for some reason it fails to bind-mount them
[07:32] <tjaalton> nevermind, looks like it uses sbuild/fstab with schroot as well..
[07:42] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: wb
[07:42] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: fpc hint updated, pysam hint added, both landed now
[07:43] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#iva needs actual code changes (not build on the removed architectures)
[07:45] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, isn't this just a removal on i386?
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> it will bd-uninstallable without code changes
[07:47] <pitti> ah, does it b-dep on python3-pysam?
[07:47] <pitti> so it does
[07:47] <pitti> ok
[07:48] <pitti> done
[07:48] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks, I was wondering about ENOCOFFEE from my side :)
[08:18] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, I don't think we have need to have an ext-pack vbox downloader
[08:18] <LocutusOfBorg> the PUEL license is the same as guest-additions-iso, why should the package be different?
[08:18] <LocutusOfBorg> I prefer it in non-free with the actual stuff inside the deb, to avoid proxy issues and similar
[09:19] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, autopkgtestsuite broken again? Error reading configuration: FAKEROOT binary 'fakeroot' does not exist or is not executable at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Conf.pm line 75.
[09:20] <LocutusOfBorg> (sbuild testsuite fails)
[09:41] <ogra_> tseliot, do you have a hint for zyga for bug 1615248 ?
[09:42] <ogra_> (i guess there is a tool you can use to find the running driver)
[10:10] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: maybe, missing package dependency?
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, isn't fakeroot something installed by default?
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> at least it was until two days ago
[10:12] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: certainly not, it's a developer package
[10:12] <pitti> maybe some dependency got dropped somewhere?
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> mmm ok, so lets add it
[10:13] <LocutusOfBorg> not in sbuild package
[10:13] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: sbuild recommends it, maybe the test should get Restrictions: needs-recommends?
[10:14] <LocutusOfBorg> but why the previous version was working?
[10:14] <LocutusOfBorg> Merged Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot
[10:14] <LocutusOfBorg> Filtered Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot
[10:16] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: the version in -proposed adds the check, maybe it just ignored its absence before?
[10:17] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: previous versions installed fakeroot into the debootstrap, not into the "outer" test VM
[10:17] <LocutusOfBorg> oh indeed
[10:17] <LocutusOfBorg> so, how to add it?
[10:17] <pitti> so apparently that new test is not really necessary, as you can use sbuild/schroot without fakeroot
[10:18] <pitti> or, if it was added for some reason, the Recommends: needs to be bumped to Depends:
[10:18] <pitti> looks to me like an actual packaging bug -- adding fakeroot to test dependencies would merely paper over it
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> moved to -devel (debian)
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[10:31] <LocutusOfBorg> patch ongoing, uploading shortly
[10:54] <LocutusOfBorg> jbicha, syncpackage libraw -s costamagnagianfranco please?
[10:59] <tseliot> ogra_, zyga: I'll have a look at it
[10:59] <ogra_> thanks ...
[11:06] <ginggs> pitti: should i sync things like mutt and libraw during beta freeze, even thought they are seeded?
[11:07] <pitti> ginggs: we aren't in beta freeze any more
[11:07] <pitti> ginggs: also, even if we were, uploads/syncs are now always safe as we block promotion from -proposed in a freeze, not uploads
[11:07] <ginggs> pitti: ok, thanks!
[11:09] <LocutusOfBorg> can we maybe change the manpage? :)
[12:07] <Unit193> LocutusOfBorg: See §2 though.
[12:09] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, where?
[12:10] <LocutusOfBorg> 2 has a part that is virtualbox-guest-additions only
[12:10] <Unit193> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL Exactly, the part where they allow you to distribute it.
[12:10] <LocutusOfBorg> you right
[12:12] <Unit193> Otherwise, yeah non-free is so much better than a downloader (see adobe-flashplugin vs whatever the current downloader is.)
[12:34] <LocutusOfBorg> oh bad sbuild, you green now
[13:37] <tseliot> ogra_, zyga: I've just posted a solution in the bug report
[15:54] <powersj> Yakkety server ISO seems to have packages ending with "*.ude" in pool/main/l/linux
[15:55] <powersj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23093622/
[16:07] <nacc> powersj: are they .udeb ?
[16:07] <powersj> nacc, suppose to be - package search downloads them as .udeb
[16:07] <nacc> maybe they are meant to be, rather
[16:07] <nacc> powersj: ack
[16:07] <cjwatson> We used to get that sometimes when we hit a length limit in one of the weird CDish filesystem formats.
[16:08] <cjwatson> Probably triggered by the >2-digit ABI number here ...
[16:08] <cjwatson> (Though actually some of them need more characters than that)
[16:08] <nacc> yeah, that seems likely in this case
[16:09] <powersj> so filing a bug against the source package (linux) doesn't seem like the right thing, does it?
[16:09] <cjwatson> I'm not sure it can be fixed anywhere else in reality
[16:10] <cjwatson> Though you could see if anyone more up-to-date on cdimage stuff can think of something
[16:10] <cjwatson> It'll be somewhere in the overlap of ubuntu-cdimage, the linux source package, and the debian-installer source package
[16:11] <nacc> powersj: in theory, that 9134 naming will go away sooner or later
[16:11] <nacc> but it should probably be fixed still (or maybe be a warning somehwere?)
[16:14] <powersj> sounds like a good test would be to verify # of files in pool == # *.deb + # *.udeb
[16:16] <nacc> powersj: seems like a reasonable sanity check
[16:26] <infinity> If adding two characters to a filename is breaking CDs, we have a problem. :P
[16:26] <infinity> Especially since we have flavours longer than '-generic'
[16:27] <infinity> Also, that's even sketchier, given then file before the extension is also cut off.
[16:28] <infinity> powersj: How did you mount that ISO?
[16:28] <nacc> infinity: good point
[16:29] <powersj> 7z x -y yakkety-server-amd64 *.iso
[16:29] <infinity> Not sure I trust 7z to be reading the right filesystem.
[16:29] <infinity> Try "sudo mount -o loop foo.iso mountpoint/" and look inside?
[16:29] <powersj> sure
[16:30] <infinity> There are several filesystems overlaid in ISOs, from vfatish to rockridge to... Misc.  I forget all the weird ways names get mangled.
[16:30] <infinity> There might even be an 8.3 FAT hidden in there.
[16:30] <infinity> But mounting it should give sane filenames.
[16:30] <powersj> that seems to have fixed it
[16:31] <infinity> So, call that a 7z bug, not an ISO bug. :)
[16:31] <powersj> yep! thx
[16:31] <nacc> heh
[16:32] <infinity> iso9660 + extensions is really weird.
[16:32] <cjwatson> Rock Ridge + Joliet, I believe.
[16:32] <infinity> And by "really weird", I mean "a complete mess".
[16:33] <infinity> cjwatson: And Joliet is effectively a vfatish emulation, right?  Not actually case sensitive, n-char limit, etc.
[16:33] <ogra_> well, just another 10 years and CDs will have gonne the way of the floppy
[16:33] <cjwatson> infinity: Something like that, I think.
[16:33] <infinity> cjwatson: While rockridge is closer to POSIX.
[16:33] <cjwatson> I didn't even know 7z did ISO9660 unpacking.
[16:33] <cjwatson> You can use bsdtar if you need a non-rootly unpacker.
[16:33] <cjwatson> I think it actually gets it mostly right.
[16:33] <powersj> ok - and yes I was looking for a non-root way of doing it so I could script it
[16:34] <infinity> ogra_: Except that people keep insisting on writing iso9660 filesystems to larger and larger optical media.
[16:34] <infinity> (Which is derpy, we should switch to something less broken)
[16:34] <cjwatson> (It might have a slight problem with symlinks, I don't quite remember.)
[16:34] <ogra_> yeah ... people are crazy
[16:34] <infinity> What was the DVD filesystem that never really caught on?  UDF?
[16:34] <infinity> Something like that.
[16:34] <ogra_> yeah
[16:35] <infinity> I'd love to see iso9660 die in a fire.
[16:35] <ogra_> +1
[16:39] <infinity> I'd also love to get rid of that file extension...
[16:40] <infinity> I can only imagine a true greybeard, the first time he saw a .iso, going "huh, I wonder if this has something to do with date formats or country codes, or perhaps metric measurements... let's read it in vi".
[16:40] <ogra_> well, vi would open it ...
[16:40] <ogra_> might take a while though
[16:40] <infinity> Sure would.
[16:41] <infinity> Would also scribble all over your poor VT120.
[16:41] <infinity> And possibly make it beep a lot.
[16:42] <infinity> And by "beep", I mean that distinctly DEC "dwoop" noise.
[16:42] <infinity> Man, I miss Digital.
[16:43] <ogra_> :)
[16:44] <infinity> Hrm.  It's been 18 years.  People have reached the age of majority since the Compaq/Digital acquisition.
[16:44] <infinity> Maybe it's time for me to move on.
[16:44] <infinity> Maybe.
[16:45] <ogra_> or just to grow a very long beard
[16:45] <ogra_> anmd watch it turn grey
[16:45] <infinity> You could be on to something.
[18:53]  * hallyn misses his vt101


[03:29] <josef_> josefreiss
[03:30] <josef_> graz
 I'm good lordevadier
[05:52] <pragomer> Hi, is it possible to change the default shortcut for creating new folders in dolphin - which ist F10 - to STRG+SHIFT+N (like in Windows) ? Or to additionally define the 2nd one for creating folders?
[05:54] <dax> click the lines icon in the top right -> click Configure Keyboard Shortcuts -> search for "folder"
[05:58] <pragomer> dax: oh thanks... I found it... KDE Plasma is just so great... because I can set nearly everything... thank you :-)
[07:10] <paolo_> hello
[07:12] <paolo_> plz can someone help  me ?  I'm in trouble with Skanlite . I 've installed driver for my Samsung M2070 printer on Kubuntu 18.04, I can print but Skanlite doesn't detect any scanner
[07:20] <paolo_> ??
[07:25] <paolo_> but https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VkfvKn75bK/
[07:27] <paolo_> and https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZjB4Yyqg78/
[07:35] <paolo_> not very helpfull.....
[07:37] <paolo_> :?:?:?
[07:44] <paolo_> plz can someone help  me ?  I'm in trouble with Skanlite . I 've installed driver for my Samsung M2070 printer on Kubuntu 18.04, I can print but Skanlite doesn't detect any scanner
[07:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:50] <paolo_> plz can someone help  me ?  I'm in trouble with Skanlite . I 've installed driver for my Samsung M2070 printer on Kubuntu 18.04, I can print but Skanlite doesn't detect any scanner
[07:54] <lordievader> !patience
[08:20] <paolo_> ubottu: ..I've laredy tried several solution but no one works for me ...
[08:21] <paolo_> lordievader: ever be patience
[08:23] <lordievader> I'm afraid not many people do thing with scanners these days.
[08:57] <paolo_> plz can someone help  me ?  I'm in trouble with Skanlite . I 've installed driver for my Samsung M2070 printer on Kubuntu 18.04, I can print but Skanlite doesn't detect any scanner
[09:00] <alazred> paolo_: Some people have had sucess with this scaner: see there https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=237146
[09:03] <diogenes_> paolo_, try xsane.
[09:11] <paolo_> alazred: treid ... but not working
[09:12] <paolo_> diogenes_: did  u means instead of skalite?  are u meaning could be the software
[09:12] <paolo_>  did u guys check my previous pastebin?
[09:18] <alazred> paolo_: your printer should be supported with those drivers. https://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/index.html
[09:30] <paolo_> alazred .. already tried this one too but didn't work ... now after 24 hours of research I f ixed ....I had to change firewall rules and restart services in this way with those command
[09:31] <paolo_> alazred: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w97cCcqhwr/
[09:32] <paolo_> I was worried cause I ve already installed this printer several time in different debian based OS ...and this was the first time I got in trouble like this
[09:33] <paolo_> I moved to kubuntu from mint cinnamon cause I like KDE ... but after  some months I'm not so happy
[09:39] <paolo_> I 've found several bugs
[09:41] <paolo_> I did'n t expect from Ubuntu ... for example after 2 months I'm not able to make my bluetooth working
[10:13] <user|64961> is there a minimum system requirements for kubuntu?
[11:03] <salvo90100> Salve a tutti
[11:11] <salvo90100> Salve a tutti
[11:48] <lordievader> salvo90100: This is still an English channel. You might have more luck in English or in #ubuntu-it
[12:30] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:50] <TBotNik> All:No Answer YDay trying again: Tried to upgrade to Kubutnut 18.04 LTS on my file server. Live DVD install seemed OK but reboot stalled at the "KUBUNYU" screen. left it on over night to make sure and still stuch there this morning. What patches are out there as obviously this Live DVD was not tested and errors?
[13:50] <TBotNik> hello my webcam doesnt work
[13:50] <TBotNik> All: Wrote this up at: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1249313/live-dvd-problems
[15:01] <aestheticturkey> does this thing work
[15:01] <aestheticturkey> just got told by my friend there is an irc client that comes with plasma
[15:02] <franzo> it's called konversation
[15:02] <aestheticturkey> yeah i know
[15:03] <aestheticturkey> i just found 9 diamonds
[15:10] <aestheticturkey> is this active?
[15:10] <aestheticturkey> seems like im the only one talking right now
 Yes it is active, but it's a support channel
[15:21] <petersaints> Hi guys! I'm just wondering if there are plans of releasing KDE Plasma 5.19 for 20.04 on the Backports PPA?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> petersaints, maybe the guys at #kubuntu-devel can help you.
[17:39] <GSMarquis> So my canon mx870 printer worked great on 18.04, 19.10, and nothing on 20.04......have no idea where to start.
[17:52] <GSMarquis> NM......solved.
 How did you solve the printer issue?  I have seen multiple reports of printer problems with 20.04 and the solutions I have seen have not worked very well (may dad's all-in-one HP scanner/printer was one example which worked fine on 18.04).
[18:22] <GSMarquis> downloaded the guten-printer package......researched and all the recent printers were listed.
[19:53] <Dakeiz> Good evening everyone. I am having bandwidth issues and I wonder when they appeared because I didn't really pay attention until a few days ago. I have a 1Gbps connection at home and Speedtest or Fast only show 50Mbps... I've had issues with WiFi on a laptop, but I wonder if there are also issues with wired connections. Could someone help me figure it out, please?
 what speed does your ISP say you have Dakeiz »???
[20:08] <Dakeiz> sigAIO: 1000 Mbps
 just because you have a 1Gbps doesn't mean thats what you're going to get for internet speeds
[20:08] <Dakeiz> sigAIO: I have another device running Windows 10, and on Speedtest and Fast it's getting 900+ Mbps
 1000Gbps is 125 megabytes per second... I doubt that's your internet speed
[20:10] <Dakeiz> It's 1Gbps, soon to be upgraded to 10Gbps
[20:10] <Dakeiz> If I download something from Google Drive I'd easily get 100+ MBps
[20:10] <Dakeiz> Google Drive uses Bytes, whereas my ISP and Speedtest use Bits
[20:11] <Dakeiz> I have 1 Gigabit per second, which is equal to 125 Mega bytes per second
 just said thta
[20:14] <Dakeiz> Managed to find a link to an old speed test on Fast.com : https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688033479203618825/689824674888024195/unknown.png?width=713&height=658
 thats about 108.75 megabytes per second
[20:16] <Dakeiz> Yeah, close enough to the 1Gbps
[20:16] <Dakeiz> Now in downloading I'm only at 45 Mbps while the Windows device is easily at 800/900+...
[20:16] <Dakeiz> Not downloading anything, and the network is not particularly flooded
[20:16] <razerwaron> hello, after trying to open my sh script with nano it looks funny, how could attach a picture here?
 the attatch icon just to the left of where you type
 Megabyte and Megabit are two different measurements
 I think you're confusing the two when trying to figure out your speed
[20:21] <razerwaron> I am using Konversation to connect to this IRC channel, it seems it doesn't have that functionality, what IRC client are you using?
 I use Kvirc and telegram
 I'm on this channel on telegram
[20:23] <razerwaron> Cheers, I willl try to give a shot telegram then ^^
[21:05] <Dakeiz> sigAIO: I am not confusing them at all, man...
[21:06] <Dakeiz> I am supposed to have at the very least 800 Mbps when doing a speedtest, I have 45 Mbps now.... No need to be a doctor to see there's a problem
[21:06] <Dakeiz> The screenshot I linked you was performed on the very same machine (don't remember if it was on Kubuntu or Linux Mint, though)
 Hello - I have a Lenovo P51 running Kubuntu 20.04 that I just updated to 5.4.0-37 and am getting a black screen after rebooting and entering my encryption password. I was/am running Nvidia driver 440.82 and saw the DKMS process during the apt upgrade. … I tried resigning the drivers with a new key anyways, no resolve. … I then tried booting with the 5.4.0-33 kernal via advanced options, also no resolve.
[23:27] <derek-shnosh> Hello - I have a Lenovo P51 running Kubuntu 20.04 that I just updated to 5.4.0-37 and am getting a black screen after rebooting and entering my encryption password. I was/am running Nvidia driver 440.82 and saw the DKMS process during the apt upgrade.
[23:27] <derek-shnosh> I tried resigning the drivers with a new key anyways, no resolve; I then tried booting with the 5.4.0-33 kernal via advanced options, also no resolve.
 Well then guess i'll just stay in IRC didn't know it was mirrored.
 Sorry for spam
 Did you need assistance uninstalling the NVidia drivers?
[23:52] <derek-shnosh> I went to TTY2 and ran `apt list -i | grep nvidia` and there were none installed... I just ran `ubuntu-drivers install` and they're now reinstalled... I rebooted and entered my encryption PW and am now staring at the LENOVO BIOS screen.
[23:53] <derek-shnosh> Which I suppose is better than a black screen, but still no login screen.
 Which nvidia card?
[23:54] <derek-shnosh> Quadro M2200 Mobile.
 Everything was working prior to the kernel update?
[23:56] <derek-shnosh> Yes.
[23:57] <derek-shnosh> I attached a list of everything that was upgraded at the time here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1882991/comments/8
 Do you have the nvidia ppa installed?
[23:58] <derek-shnosh> Is there a quick way to check without manually scouring through all of the files in /etc/apt/sources*
[23:59] <derek-shnosh> I have `graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-focal`
 Hmmmm, ok


[12:44] <mrgoodcat> morning
[12:44] <rick_h_> morn
[12:45] <brousch__> Toledoa Zoo was pretty nice
[12:45] <brousch__> Toledo
[12:45] <mrgoodcat> so butthurt today. have to reinstall windows on stupid salesman's computer because he was reading an internet article that told him to edit his registry
[12:45] <mrgoodcat> :<
[12:46] <mrgoodcat> users--
[12:48] <brousch__> Fire him
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> haha
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> if only i had that power
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> that's why they don't let me fire people
[12:56] <mrgoodcat> I should take his salary for the time he took out of my day
[13:10] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:11] <mrgoodcat> 12.3 MB/sec ubuntu updates at work :)
[13:11] <cmaloney> What exactly did the salesperson do?
[13:12] <mrgoodcat> he was _trying_ to follow this article http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/37920/the-50-best-registry-hacks-that-make-windows-better/
[13:12] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/riZYT - The 50 Best Registry Hacks that Make Windows Better
[13:14] <brousch__> wat?! jrwren is a jujube now?
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> yup
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> works for rick
[13:15] <brousch__> I just saw his blog post
[13:15] <brousch__> rick_h_ is amassing a powerful coding army
[13:23] <rick_h_> brousch__: awesome, we were thinking of doing that this fall (the zoo)
[13:24] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: lol on the reg article
[13:24] <rick_h_> and bwuhahaha the juju army moves forward
[13:25] <cmaloney> God, which one did the damage?
[13:25] <cmaloney> Or is the answer "with great power comes great responsibility"? :)
[13:25] <jrwren> brousch__: yar. imma rock the juju codes ;]
[13:29] <cmaloney> I’ll be learning more about Go in my new roll.
[13:29] <rick_h_> cmaloney: orly?
[13:29] <cmaloney> ^- I believe Juju uses croissants. ;)
[13:30] <rick_h_> :P
[13:30] <cmaloney> (was jrwren blog posting)
[13:30] <rick_h_> https://github.com/juju/charmstore :)
[13:30] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Df0ZGG - juju/charmstore · GitHub
[13:30] <rick_h_> go go go
[13:30] <cmaloney> "go get github.com/juju/charmstore"
[13:33] <cmaloney> Oh Go, you're too clever for us all. ;)
[13:33] <rick_h_> lol
[13:34]  * cmaloney is going to work on getting rick_h_ to learn Go (ie: baduk oe weiqui) so we can have really confusing conversations.
[13:36] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: you mean which regedit did the damage?
[13:37] <mrgoodcat> i'm inclined to think it was the thought process more than any individual edit
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> in my somewhat limited experience I really like go
[13:51] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Yeah, i was just curious if $salesperson actually took notes or if it was more like doing delicate surgery with a lawn mower and a blender.
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> haha took notes?
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> wish i had some more users like that
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> that would be so nice
[14:25] <cmaloney> Well, one can dream. :)
[15:58] <cmaloney> Today the USA realizes there is a USA soccer team and some of us pretend to care. ;)
[16:27] <greg-g> .. by going to a bar and drinking. Really it's just yet another excuse for us to be drunk beligerent bastards.
[16:28] <greg-g> your morning cynic here, greg-g, reporting.
[16:28] <cmaloney> please take your station, corporal cynic greg-g
[16:29]  * greg-g smacks heals together at attention
[16:29] <greg-g> heels*
[16:52] <jrwren> go germany!
[16:56] <cmaloney> Disband FIFA!
[16:56] <cmaloney> Sell it off for scrap
[17:10] <ColonelPanic001> o.o
[17:11] <ColonelPanic001> I saw the first half of this game at lunch. Most soccer I've ever seen
[17:11] <cmaloney> ColonelPanic001: Hey, btw: I think you have an invite from me for Dragon Go Server.
[17:12] <cmaloney> stupid me let the previous game expire. :(
[17:12] <ColonelPanic001> ah, have to get that set up on the new phone, too
[23:15] <greg-g> how I'm ending my work day: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/14329377617/
[23:15] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/yUy8Up - #zodiacs closing out the work day behind the SBD. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[23:47] <jrwren> greg-g: why music studio?
[23:49] <cmaloney> greg-g is mixing the hawt new album
[23:49] <greg-g> :)
[23:49] <greg-g> I was at a pub/bar/venue
[23:49] <greg-g> awesome place, actually
[23:50] <greg-g> good food, good feel/atmosphere
[23:50] <greg-g> and good live music every day of the week


[14:27] <daker> Ronnie, updates http://ubuntuone.com/75yirXxuYxo9vESq1rafC6 http://ubuntuone.com/3ZfTX5Z0lilZbsRFaSSG77 http://ubuntuone.com/2mnUGpB1cTdT9Z7kntXcXR
[14:28] <daker> mhall119, nigelb cjohnston
[14:33] <Ronnie> daker: on the team page, i think that the 'location', 'contacts', 'www' also would look good in the sidebar
[14:34] <Ronnie> if you click on the calendar widget, what should happen?
[14:35] <daker> Ronnie, the calendar on the team page shows the events list of that team
[14:36] <Ronnie> the orange parts are events?
[14:37] <daker> organe are event and grey part is the "today"
[14:37] <Ronnie> oke, and if you click on the orange part?
[14:37] <Ronnie> are you directed to the page with events on that day?
[14:38] <Ronnie> and if there is one event, redirect immidiatly to event page
[14:38] <daker> yeah
[14:38] <daker> yep but i don't think teams have more than one event in a day
[14:38] <daker> so it redirect you to the event page
[14:39] <Ronnie> on the home page, the calendar should work the same way i guess
[14:39] <daker> yep
[14:42] <Ronnie> what about the feeds on the homepage, will they return?
[14:43] <daker> the 2 blocks at the bottom are articles (they are not event)
[14:44] <Ronnie> ah, great
[14:44] <Ronnie> i already love that design :D
[14:45] <daker> ツ
[16:57] <daker> mhall119 or cjohnston is that the BP for UDS-P https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-ltp ?
[16:58] <nigelb> daker: yep
[16:58] <nigelb> (it has 'p')
[16:59] <daker> ok


[00:15] <ScottyK> I inadvertly told Dolphin to move all the data from one folder to another. How do I stop this process? The little "pause" and "stop" buttons on the notification are not working.
[01:04] <bjrohan> Hi all. I am running KDE. I added a click widget to the lockscreen. Now when I am on the lockscreen, in the upper right where the desktop tab is, a menu appears by default (lockscreen, add widget etc). How do I keep this from showing by default
[02:44] <Griz64> A friend just built a new machine and moved his drives over to it. When he boots he's unable to get a network connection. The new onboard chipset uses the e1000e driver. How does he tell his Ubuntu system to now use this driver?  (cross posted from #ubuntu)
[04:44] <vijay13> can some one tell how can I increase buffersize of my yakuake terminal so that I can see more lines of output ?
[04:51] <tsimpson> vijay13: right click -> Edit Current Profile -> Scrolling
[04:55] <vijay13> tsimpson:  thank you :)
[06:12] <cojack> hello guys
[06:13] <cojack> do some one of you, have similliar problem like after add ppa:kubuntu/backports and update & upgrade, kwin stop works?
[06:42] <cojack> KWin: The default decoration plugin is corrupt and could not be loaded.
[06:42] <cojack> ;o
[07:21] <spartanfx907> HAllo! Good morning for who is just got up, as i!
[08:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:11] <mart1> morning
[08:12] <lordievader> Hey mart1, how are you?
[08:13] <mart1> i'm well, checking out irc clients
[08:14] <lordievader> What client are you on?
[08:15] <mart1> weechat at the moment, and i have no idea what i'm doing :P
[08:15]  * d347hm4n is enjoying Quassel
[08:15] <lordievader> Hehe, I'm a fan of Irssi myself ;)
[08:16] <mart1> i read about that, but it's even more complicated. the thing with screen and stuff sounds great
[08:17] <lordievader> mart1: Oh it is!
[08:19] <mart1> have a good sunday m8, need more coffee
[08:19]  * genii hears something about coffee, then wanders back to working
[09:12] <bigor> hello
[09:13] <bigor> I have a problem with vnc4server
[09:14] <bigor> imanaged to start it and connetct from another computer, but I have problem with mouse clicks
[09:14] <bigor> it seems only taskbar reacts on mouse clicks
[09:15] <bigor> other windows shows only resize cursor when mouse is above it
[09:15] <bigor> and click on any buttons is ignored
[09:15] <bigor> however, if I start Krfb instead of vnc4server then everything works fine
[09:15] <bigor> anybody knows what could be the roblem?
[09:16] <Graf_Westerholt> bigor, looks to me that it sends the Alt-Button, too.
[09:17] <bigor> hmm
[09:17] <bigor> you think that that the problem is on client side?
[09:17] <Graf_Westerholt> Because when you press alt-button, you can move or resize windows.
[09:17] <Graf_Westerholt> I do not know. It is hust a guess.
[09:18] <Graf_Westerholt> *just
[09:18] <bigor> I don't think it's client side problem, since I have sam problem using krdc or vncwiever
[09:19] <bigor> and also, sam client works fine when krfb is used on server side
[09:20] <bigor> vnc4server worked fine on my 32-bit ubuntu, I recently installed 64-bit and got this problem
[11:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:48] <Monsieur-B> Hello, I have a dumb question to ask,   what is the + and the -  signs on my icons in kubuntu?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Monsieur-B, which icons ?
[12:52] <Monsieur-B> BluesKaj, the home Icons on my desktop, they are in a transparent square
[12:53] <BluesKaj> hmm, not sure , Monsieur-B , i don't use desktop icons , or the square
[12:55] <Monsieur-B> oh ok
[12:56] <kecskebak> They open up and close a kind pop-up Dolphin view
[13:00] <Monsieur-B> oh ok
[13:01] <kecskebak> Monsieur-B - I used to have them on Fedora KDE, but I got rid of the panel on Kubuntu and use the Quick Launcher plasmoid now
[13:01] <BluesKaj> yeah the quiklaunch is handy ..been using it for yrs
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Monsieur-B, the quick launch resides in the panel
[13:03] <kecskebak> BluesKay - I have two Activities - Desktop and Animation and have the most commonly used programs in the Quick Launcher. Learning how KDE Activities worked was the best 5 minutes I ever spent.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> kecskebak, I don't use activities , the pager with 6 virtual desktops works here.
[13:07] <kecskebak> BluesKaj: For me activities are wonderful as I need completely different things when I'm working or not working, so it means I have two completely different desktops at the same time I can just flip between.
[13:08] <Monsieur-B> I have been using KDE since yesterday, not used to it but liking it,   I was using Cinnamon or Mate
[13:10] <BluesKaj> kecskebak, yes , the virtual desktops do the same thing
[13:11] <Monsieur-B> I still like to have Icons on the desktop, like chrome and often-used folders or files
[13:13] <BluesKaj> that's what I use the quicklaunch for :)
[13:14] <kecskebak> BluesKaj: Yes, the lovely thing about KDE is it's so flexible you can use Virtual Desktops to do the same job as Activities. I use two virtual desktops with each of my Activities. I also have some applications only open in certain Activites on a certain desktop. It's a wondefully flexible system.
[13:24] <BluesKaj> kecskebak, yeah , i'm a home user so no need for several open apps or activities simultaneously , but as you say kde is wonderful compared to the resrictive options available on unity / gnome
[13:26] <BluesKaj> but there still are lot of gnome users who have a "hate" for kde , which stems from their dislike of anything that hints of a microsoft influence
[13:36] <kecskebak> BluesKaj: Because I started on BBC Micros and the Acorn Archimedes, the KDE button in the corner and Task Manager panel reminds me of my A3000, which is where Microsoft pinched that layout from for Windows 95. So KDE is Acorn influence for me ;)
[13:36] <slatenails> i dunno what's with the hate between desktop environments anyway
[13:36] <slatenails> i can respect both kde and gnome..
[13:36] <slatenails> pretty much anything but unity :P
[13:37] <kecskebak> slatenails: Gnome is perfect for the computer my wife and children use - they like it and it's really easy for them to use.
[13:37] <kecskebak> I use KDE - everyone's happy.
[13:37] <slatenails> and that's great
[13:37] <slatenails> yeah
[13:37] <BluesKaj> slatenails, yeah , agreed , and being an old windows guy gnome wasn't my cuppa tea, but kde was like familiar territory to me
[13:37] <slatenails> i've been a gnome user in between too
[13:37] <soee> and this is sentecne: everyone can use what they like no need to hate :)
[13:38] <slatenails> i've been meaning to switch to xfce + kde applications
[13:38] <slatenails> because plasma's bloated and runs slow
[13:38] <slatenails> xfce's desktop is much faster but when i tried to switch literally everything ever broke
[13:38] <slatenails> i still haven't gotten kdevelop recovered from that
[13:38] <slatenails> might have to reinstall
[13:39] <Pupnik> funny
[13:39] <slatenails> and i mean plasma is slow as in it takes a full second to switch between windows
[13:39] <Pupnik> i installed kubuntu
[13:39] <Pupnik> then installed xfce
[13:39] <Pupnik> and everything was fine
[13:39] <FloodBotK1> Pupnik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <slatenails> well i guess the fact that i compiled some stuff from source probably has something to do with it
[13:42] <BluesKaj> complining from source IME is a tossup as to whether the app actually compiles successfully
[13:43] <alphacrypt> hi I always get locale errors in the terminal
[13:43] <alphacrypt> changed language just to german its 13.04
[13:49] <jan__> What is the topic today? What are you all talking about?
[13:50] <jan__> Nothing much I guess.
[13:50] <BluesKaj> well, we shouldn't be talking about anything here , we should be helping
[13:50] <BluesKaj> someone
[13:50] <jan__> I do have a question so please help me
[13:50] <BluesKaj> yes jan__ , ask away
[13:51] <jan__> I like to install Linux on a software Raid and on the net I only see complicated instructions how to do that. Anyone here know a simple way of doing that?
[13:51] <jan__> Ubuntu used to have the altenate CD but that one is discontinued.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> jan__, you can use the server version which has a textbased installer , I beleive
[13:53] <jan__> is that the same text-based installer as the alternate CD used to have?
[13:53] <jan__> meaning I can make a RAID during installation and all is well?
[13:55] <jan__> I wonder, when I do have the RAID setup with an older alternate CD, or the server version, can I use the same raid also for installing other OS'es?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> spawn57, make up your mind , which nick you want to use please
[14:46] <slatenails> does anyone have kubuntu 12.10's wallpaper?
[14:46] <slatenails> http://www.kubuntu.org/files/desktop_2.png i mean this
[14:50] <RamchandraApte> slatenails: the wallpaper image should be available at /usr/share/wallpapers/Elarun/contents/images/2560x1600.png
[14:51] <RamchandraApte> if it's not there, try installing kde-wallpapers-default
[15:09] <slatenails> RamchandraApte, that's the 13.04 one
[15:09] <slatenails> i'm looking for the gray one
[15:26] <anonymous_> hi guys is there a working howto for samba4 as active directory out there ?
[15:28] <anonymous_> the ubuntu installer just gave me a domain without the chance to change something ....
[15:29] <Koteho> hola
[15:31] <Koteho> tengo un problema de conexion a internet y es que va a golpes, conecta bien y todo pero no es capaz de descargar una web sino a rachas ylo mismo con laactualizacion depaquetes
[16:25] <ScottyK> greetings! I've got a fresh install of Kubuntu 13.04. All updates applied, but there no K-start button at the bottom left, and the icons usually at the bottom right (and clock) are missing.
[16:28] <ranmaruhibikiya> ScottyK, do you tried add them manually?
[16:28] <ScottyK> ranmaruhibikiya - no, I used Konsole and used apt-get
[16:29] <ScottyK> and used ALT-F2, installed Konversation, and that's how I got this at least
[16:29] <skramer_> ScottyK: maybe the panel is set to auto-hide??
[16:30] <ScottyK> Nope, visiblity is set to "always visible"
[16:31] <ScottyK> All I can see on the bottom is hte little red/blue/green icon for the activities
[16:31] <skramer_> but in this case, you should be able to add K-start button, etc. manually
[16:32] <skramer_> right click on panel -> "add mini programs"
[16:33] <ScottyK> Ok, I just added the "default panel", and now it just appeared at the top. How do I get it down at the bottom where it traditionally is?
[16:34] <skramer_> you click the "Cashew" and there you should find the option to select the edge where you want your panel
[16:36] <ScottyK> Got it! Thanks everyone for helping me get this straightened out...
[17:44] <jimmyjo> hello peoples
[17:45] <jimmyjo> is this an active Irc channel
[17:45] <jimmyjo> kladsjdlfadsjf;d
[17:45] <jimmyjo> NOOOOOOOOOO
[17:46] <jimmyjo> what is dcc chat
[17:47] <jimmyjo> dont pwn me please, im too poor to hide my sad bare soul
[17:51] <lordievader> jimmyjo: Do you have a Kubuntu support question?
[18:26] <v8> hola
[18:29] <lordievader> Hey v8
[20:03] <PUSSY1234> hehe,BUT!
[20:05] <PUSSY1234> _v_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:05] <PUSSY1234> _v_!! where are you
[20:11] <Thalaiva> Hi, I want to start developing  for KDE and hence want to install the environment first. Could anyone here help me with that?
[20:13] <kristal> Thalaiva: I just use kate and stuck on the ut-dev packages
[20:13] <kristal> gcc for compiling
[20:13] <kristal> Qt is very complicated but smarter than gtk by a mile
[20:38] <blabla> addsadasd
[20:49] <ScottyK> I noticed on the openSUSE version of KDE, there were several more choices for desktop wallpapers (to include a rotating globe). Are those available in Kubuntu?
[20:51] <BluesKaj> ScottyK, haven't seen that , but maybe you could find that file a download it to your wallpapers file
[20:52] <lordievader> ScottyK: Yes thet are available, but you need an extra package. plasma-wallpapers or plasma-extras, or something like that, can't remember the exact package name.
[20:53] <ScottyK> great, I'll look for that
[20:57] <ScottyK> plasma-wallpapers-addons
[20:59] <BluesKaj> ScottyK, you're not restricted to default kde wallpapers you can use files from your pictures folder as well, just navigate to them and select them by clicking the "open" button on the default desktop settings dialog
[21:01] <ScottyK> BluesKaj - excellent. I saw the globe that shows the sun's position on the earth, and really liked it. Now happy to have it for kubuntu
[21:01] <BluesKaj> interesting ScottyK got a URL ?
[21:02] <ScottyK> it's part of that plasma-wallpapers-addon package
[21:03] <ScottyK> the "weather" one doesn
[21:03] <ScottyK> 't seem to work, but the others do
[21:11] <gregor_> Hello! How to disable auto saving of applications at reboot? I want kubuntu to start fresh every time
[21:22] <BluesKaj> gregor_, it's good practice to close all apps before rebooting
[21:23] <gregor_> BluesKaj: I know,but if I (and others) dont want to have this (feature)? No opt-out?
[21:23] <kristal> If I remember there's an option for that in startup apps
[21:24] <kristal> I know for sure there's an option, but I forgot where it is. :(
[21:27] <gregor_> kristal: ty, maybe I will find something..
[21:32] <BluesKaj> kristal, system settings>startup&shutdown>session management. Onlogin choose ,start with an empty session
[21:33] <kristal> gregor_: Ahhh BluesKaj found it
[21:34] <BluesKaj> \later folks
[21:34] <gregor_> BluesKaj: thank ya!
[23:26] <rodnice> hello?


[16:32] <DalekSec> svij: You there?
[16:36] <svij> DalekSec: yes
[16:37] <DalekSec> Fantastic.  You know much about #ubuntu-bd?  Kilos seems to be running it a bit now (though Ekushey has only been offline for about 6 weeks), and would like to add someone else to the OPs list.
[16:39] <svij> um
[16:40] <svij> I know that there were some issues, but not more right now
[16:40] <svij> need to re-read the emails
[16:40] <DalekSec> Kilos: Is it zaki you want to add?
[16:41] <DalekSec> svij: If you can ACK that, or poke hggdh with an ACK that'd be great, gotta run out here.
[16:41] <Kilos> svij DalekSec i have ops there now but i am going for a three months holiday to my daughter in australia and would like to leave someone that is helping me rebuild the locos in asia in charge
[16:41] <Kilos> pavlushka is first choice
[16:42] <Kilos> zaki will also do though
[16:42]  * svij is confused
[16:42] <Kilos> why?
[16:42] <svij> sorry, I don't know what you're exactly talking about
[16:42] <Kilos> i have ops in -bd
[16:43] <svij> ohhh in the IRC-channel?
[16:43] <Kilos> im going away for three months and not sure if ill be online much
[16:43] <Kilos> yes the irc channel
[16:43] <Kilos> hehe
[16:43] <DalekSec> svij: I'm part of the IRCC, so is hggdh.
[16:43] <Kilos> i have spent 5 months getting things going there again
[16:44] <Kilos> dont want to let things fall apart if im offline for 3 months
[16:44] <svij> DalekSec: ahh that was another useful missing information
[16:44] <svij> ok, so what do I need to do now?
[16:44] <Kilos> i have built a trust for those two and know they wont mess up
[16:45] <Kilos> i need to know the command to give ops so that that person can deop himself
[16:46] <Kilos> if i do /cs op #channel nick that person cannot even deop himself
[16:47] <Kilos> and ekushey told me himself he is too busy to be involved on irc
[16:47] <svij> ah, I don't know much about IRC rights, but DalekSec or hggdh can explain you that I think. And it's fine for me if you give pavlushka OPs rights I guess.
[17:00] <Kilos> and hggdh knows the whole story


[04:40] <micahg> nikolam: around?
[04:45] <nikolam> micahg, unfortunatelly, since, I am better sleep :)
[04:45] <micahg> nikolam: have you tried the version in my PPA?
[04:46] <nikolam> Yes. and cand compile on Hardy.
[04:46] <nikolam> It requires some wierd libraries etc
[04:46] <nikolam> And i use LTS
[04:46]  * micahg isn't worries about hardy ATM
[04:46] <micahg> nikolam: you didn't tell me that before :)
[04:46] <nikolam> Also, seems like you were not targeted 10.04
[04:46] <micahg> no, I'm trying
[04:47] <nikolam> ok then :)
[04:47] <micahg> it's update or drop
[04:47] <nikolam> well, I suggest cooperation with that guy that made it working
[04:47] <micahg> nikolam: he didn't make it work
[04:48] <micahg> he just installs the upstream version
[04:48] <micahg> nikolam: it seems to work for me
[04:49] <nikolam> or taking a look at what he was doing
[04:49] <nikolam> Anyway, I better like standard way with multiple debs at the end, anyway
[04:49] <nikolam> micahg, no he made it wors, just gread. but he changed original tar.gz, and put all needed inside, not ubuntu way
[04:49] <micahg> nikolam: yep
[04:49] <micahg> nikolam: like I said, it seems to work for me
[04:49] <micahg> I was hoping people would test
[04:49] <micahg> seems like just 1 person did
[04:50] <nikolam> Yesterday he even integrated Lightning inside (calendar)
[04:50] <micahg> and I think he was using Joe Lesko's PPA which I will not support/upgrade from
[04:50] <micahg> nikolam: which is why his package will never hit archive :)
[04:50] <nikolam> micahg, I tried, and couldnt test on hardy
[04:50] <nikolam> micahg, well, sure
[04:51] <nikolam> but maybe there could be cooperation, still
[04:51] <nikolam> I suppose he would also like it to be ¨ubuntu way¨ etc
[04:51] <micahg> nikolam: once 2.0.x gets in we'll update it with security updates
[04:51] <micahg> nikolam: I'll try it in my hardy pbuilder
[04:52] <nikolam> he told me that he now achieved what he basically wanted etc
[04:52] <micahg> nikolam: right a packaged seamonkey w/out regard for standards
[04:52] <nikolam> micahg, Hardy is here untill 10.04/next Lts comes
[04:52] <nikolam> maybe 10.04 is most important now.
[04:52] <micahg> nikolam: it is
[04:52] <nikolam> After new lts, old lts, would be much uninteresting
[04:53] <micahg> nikolam: no, we'll update it as well
[04:53] <nikolam> Ok, great
[04:53] <micahg> nikolam: just not till after Lucid
[04:53] <micahg> probably some time next month
[04:53] <nikolam> I would like also to look how things are done in your work etc.
[04:53] <micahg> nikolam: you can look at the branch after I push my changes
[04:54] <micahg> nikolam: all the work is public
[04:54] <nikolam> I mostly did not made my own packages till now, except with prepared .dsc and patch files
[04:55] <nikolam> Main reason I was left on hardy was stupid amd closed graphics support, anyway, for my card they stopped supporting it in newer etc.
[04:55] <nikolam> micahg, I was thinking for a long time
[04:56] <nikolam> There would be nice to hve well defined update path for people interested in packaging, anyway
[04:56] <micahg> nikolam: I'm going to try installing 1.1.17 and setting up some stuff and then upgrade, if it works, I'm going to push what I have to lucid
[04:57] <nikolam> 1.1.19 could be interesting training :P
[04:57] <micahg> nikolam: no, it's the last release on that branch
[04:57] <micahg> 1.1.17 is the last one in archive and what we'd support an upgrade from
[04:58] <nikolam> but seems like some 1.1.18 sec. fixes were already integrated in ubuntu 1.1.17 when he came etc
[04:58] <nikolam> Hm, yes I know. only 1.1.19 is latest SM 1.x i think
[04:58] <nikolam> ok, I understand
[04:58] <micahg> nikolam: ok, I can fix that issue for hardy
[04:58] <nikolam> Last as we are concerned
[04:59] <micahg> nikolam: yes, but we didn't package it :)
[05:00] <nikolam> I tried to compile and add newer libraries on hardy, but after 1 made, second library failed to compile and that was it
[05:00] <micahg> nikolam: I'm testing local now, if it works, I'll push hardy build to my PPA
[05:01] <nikolam> Ok I will try to set your Ppa on 32-bit , 9.10 machine today
[05:02] <nikolam> Its eeepc but with fresh 9.10
[05:02] <micahg> nikolam: do you need karmic or hardy?
[05:02] <nikolam> Well I use Hardy on 64bit for every day
[05:03] <nikolam> But 9.10 on eeepc
[05:05] <nikolam> ok, going off  ;) Take care.. and thanks ;)
[05:05] <micahg> nikolam: k, should be in my PPA when you get up
[05:09] <micahg> ddecator: do you want to test Seamonkey for em?
[05:09] <micahg> *me
[05:10] <ddecator> micahg: i suppose i could
[05:10] <ddecator> micahg: what PPA is it in?
[05:10] <micahg> ddecator: k, do you use the seamonkey2 PPA?
[05:10] <ddecator> micahg: nope, but i can add it
[05:10] <micahg> ddecator: no
[05:10] <micahg> ddecator: don't
[05:10] <ddecator> k..
[05:10] <micahg> ddecator: please install seamonkey from Lucid archive
[05:11] <micahg> ddecator: set up some bookmarks, home page, mail account
[05:11] <ddecator> micahg: does the daily PPA have a seamonkey build?
[05:11] <micahg> ddecator: no
[05:11] <ddecator> micahg: good deal, i'll install it then. any other functions you want me to test?
[05:12] <micahg> ddecator: once you set all that up, here's my PPA with Seamonkey 2: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test
[05:12] <micahg> ddecator: upgrade to it and verify everything's still tehre
[05:12] <ddecator> micahg: sure thing
[05:12] <micahg> ddecator: thanks
[05:12] <ddecator> micahg: np. i'll let you know when i'm done
[05:13] <micahg> hopefully by then I'll have the packaging committed to the branch :)
[05:13] <ddecator> that'd be helpful =p
[05:13] <ddecator> oh wow, i forgot how ugly seamonkey is..
[05:13] <micahg> ddecator: SM2 looks better :)
[05:13] <ddecator> good
[05:21] <ddecator> micahg: ok, got some bookmarks, changed the homepage, and setup my email. anything else i should do before upgrading?
[05:21] <ddecator> i feel like i'm using the first release of netscape..
[05:22] <micahg> ddecator: anything else you can think of, I haven't used that platform in almost 10 yrs :)
[05:23] <ddecator> alright, changed some settings too...
[05:23] <ddecator> micahg: is the PPA all set?
[05:24] <micahg> ddecator: yep
[05:24] <micahg> ddecator: I had to fix some stuff for hardy, but that won't affect the Lucid build
[05:27] <ddecator> whoa huge icons..
[05:28] <ddecator> micahg: alright, home page worked, settings remained, mail account worked but it asked for my password even though i told it to save it, bookmarks were erased,
[05:29] <micahg> ddecator: I think the passwd issue is known upstream, I'll have to check
[05:29] <micahg> bookmarks being deleted is bad
[05:29] <ddecator> micahg: toolbar and menu
[05:29] <ddecator> wait
[05:29] <micahg> ddecator: what about them?
[05:30] <ddecator> micahg: no wait, the bookmark menu stayed, the toolbar got erased
[05:30] <ddecator> whoa
[05:30] <ddecator> it just loaded the toolbar...
[05:30] <ddecator> ok, so bookmarks work, but there is some weird delay..
[05:31] <micahg> ddecator: k, I don't know what's normal, so I can't say if that is or not
[05:31] <micahg> [reed]: do you use Seamonkey at all?
[05:31] <ddecator> micahg: neither can i..
[05:32] <[reed]> micahg: nope
[05:32] <micahg> [reed]: k, do you know offhand what the seamonkey dev channel is on i.m.o?
[05:32] <ddecator> micahg: alright, so the toolbar shows my bookmarks, but none of them work..
[05:32] <[reed]> #seamonkey
[05:33] <micahg> [reed]: is there a user channel too?
[05:33] <[reed]> same thing
[05:33] <[reed]> there's #maildev
[05:33] <micahg> [reed]: k, even better for me ATM
[05:34] <micahg> [reed]: thanks
[05:35] <micahg> ddecator: they don't work?
[05:35] <ddecator> micahg: no, menu and toolbar don't work. they show up, but clicking does nothing. manually going to the site works
[05:38] <micahg> ddecator: did the profile importer run on?
[05:38] <micahg> *ok
[05:39] <ddecator> micahg: yes
[05:39] <ddecator> seemed to finish faster than it should have though, imo
[05:39] <ddecator> idk if it skipped over anything
[05:39] <ddecator> it said it was successful though
[05:39] <micahg> ddecator: do you have 2 profile directories now?
[05:40] <ddecator> micahg: no, just one
[05:40] <micahg> ddecator: :(
[05:41] <ddecator> i take it there should be 2?
[05:42] <micahg> ddecator: in that folder how many do you have?
[05:43] <ddecator> micahg: in .mozilla i have one seamonky folder with one profile in it..
[05:44] <micahg> ddecator: k, I don't know if that's normal or not, what's the profile name?
[05:45] <ddecator> micahg: ph8lc8g0.default, it's the only one listed in profiles.ini
[05:46] <micahg> ddecator: k
[05:53] <micahg> imbrandon: k, so install seamonkey from archive and set up bookmarks, home page, and any other settings you can think of...mail...
[05:53] <micahg> imbrandon: then try the version from my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test and upgrade and verify everything is in tact
[05:54] <imbrandon> k
[05:54] <imbrandon> will be just a few grabbing 200mb source ;)
[05:54] <micahg> imbrandon: k
[06:05] <imbrandon> micahg: upgrading now
[06:08] <imbrandon> micahg: everything looks sane
[06:09] <imbrandon> afk
[06:11] <micahg> imbrandon: thanks
[06:12] <ddecator> imbrandon: bookmarks work?
[06:18] <imbrandon> ddecator: yes seemed to, i'll check it again in a few minutes ( got 20 things going :P )
[06:18] <ddecator> imbrandon: np, that's just the only issue i ran in to when i tried
[07:45] <micahg> ddecator: imbrandon: thanks for your help this evening
[07:45] <ddecator> micahg: anytime
[07:57] <ddecator> is there an FF 3.7 update in the works? the xr1.9.3 update just broke it for me..
[07:57] <micahg> ddecator: update?
[07:58]  * micahg committed the OOPP fix this evening
[07:58] <ddecator> micahg: i just updated and there was one for xulrunner 1.9.3, but now FF 3.7 isn't working
[07:58] <micahg> ddecator: what do you mean not working, should be the same as before?
[07:59] <ddecator> micahg: homepage won't load, no sites will load..
[07:59] <micahg> ddecator: OOPP issue?
[07:59] <ddecator> micahg: trying to figure it out. safe mode still doesn't work, let me create a new profile
[08:00] <micahg> ddecator: should be fixed tomorrow
[08:00] <ddecator> micahg: ok, because nothing will load right now, even with new profile..
[08:00] <micahg> ddecator: even launchpad?
[08:01] <ddecator> micahg: nothing, no google, no websites at all
[08:01] <micahg> ddecator: k, well, let's see if it works tomorrow
[08:01] <ddecator> micahg: k
[08:16] <micahg> nikolam: hardy SM2 packages in my PPA :)
[08:16] <micahg> nikolam: backup your profile first
[10:08] <fta> Derevko, hi, i'm looking at your merge request right now
[10:09] <fta> Derevko, usually, i prefer 1 change per commit
[10:09] <fta> Derevko, for timeout vs coreutils, it's a problem for ubuntu
[10:12] <fta> Derevko, ubuntu still has 7.4, Debian has 8.4. timeout moved in 7.5 :P
[10:15] <fta> and for xbase-clients vs x11-apps, i'm not sure. i remember i had to add that in order to make xvfb work
[10:27] <Derevko> fta: xbase-clients was removed and splitted out, now is a metapackage for transition
[10:27] <fta> hold on, i'm commenting in launchpad
[10:32] <fta> done
[19:06] <fta> BUGabundo, http is gone again
[19:07] <BUGabundo> I know
[19:07] <BUGabundo> m6
[19:07] <BUGabundo> it was last Friday night
[19:07] <BUGabundo> I still have it in mine
[19:07] <BUGabundo> 5.0.386.0 (45407) Ubuntu
[19:07] <fta> i've just committed something that's supposed to speed up the browser.
[19:08] <BUGabundo>   Candidate: 5.0.388.0~svn20100424r45543-0ubuntu1~ucd2
[19:08] <BUGabundo> guess I need to upgrade then
[19:08] <fta> it's for tomorrow
[19:08] <BUGabundo> fta: can't you _not_ include the http removing stuff?
[19:08] <BUGabundo> kinda forget to include it ?
[19:08] <BUGabundo> maybe they won't notice it
[19:08] <fta> could you upgrade, bench it and rebench it tomorrow to see if it's really faster?
[19:09] <BUGabundo> tooooooo many tabs open
[19:09] <fta> that http thingy is not an option
[19:09] <BUGabundo> give me a few minutes
[19:09] <fta> chromium-browser --user-data-dir=/tmp/x1 --disk-cache-dir=/tmp/x2
[19:10] <fta> i tried with peacekeeper but the score varies too much
[19:10] <BUGabundo> will it spawn a new browser, even with one open?
[19:10] <fta> yes
[19:10] <BUGabundo> wow
[19:10] <BUGabundo> that's cool!
[19:10] <fta> it's a different profile/cache
[19:10] <BUGabundo> how many can I open ??
[19:11] <BUGabundo> FF won't let you do do that
[19:11] <fta> i use that everywhere, for greader in appmode, for some webapps, ..
[19:12] <BUGabundo> need
[19:12] <BUGabundo> *neet
[19:13] <BUGabundo> let me make a nice alias for it
[19:13] <BUGabundo> using two mktmp variables :)
[19:13] <fta> the patched version is in sandbox: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+packages
[19:21] <BUGabundo> fta: $ chromiumdatadir="$(mktemp -d)";chromiumdiskcache="$(mktemp -d)";chromium-browser --user-data-dir=$chromiumdatadir --disk-cache-dir=$chromiumdiskcache
[19:26] <BUGabundo> fta: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/chromium-browser_5.0.388.0~svn20100424r45543-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  32bits only ?
[19:27] <fta> x64 still building
[19:28] <BUGabundo> ok
[19:28] <BUGabundo> ping me when its ready
[19:28] <fta> BUGabundo, why do you need this alias, it's a non-reusable profile..
[19:28] <BUGabundo> I have bad memory
[19:29] <BUGabundo> that way I can simply use that to start *any* ammount of new profiles
[19:33] <BUGabundo> fta: ctrl+b reverted too?????
[19:33] <fta> seems so
[19:33] <BUGabundo> I really have no idea what in those guys mind :(
[19:34] <BUGabundo> I need a browser that *works*
[19:34] <fta> crtl+shift+b
[19:34] <BUGabundo> even if running trunk
[19:34] <BUGabundo> I rather have ctr+b
[19:34] <fta> fork it :)
[19:34] <BUGabundo> shift is to much works
[19:35] <BUGabundo> I was further then this
[19:35] <BUGabundo> if m6 really messes my life
[19:35] <BUGabundo> either I go back to FF
[19:35] <BUGabundo> or fork chromium
[19:35] <fta> i never used ctrl+b until you mentioned it
[19:35] <BUGabundo> and call it chromium_user_ideas
[19:35] <BUGabundo> I use it N times per day
[19:36] <BUGabundo> I have the bar hidden unless I need on of the bookmarklets
[19:36] <fta> i just have the bm toolbar on the new page tab, it's enough for me
[19:37] <BUGabundo> right
[19:37] <BUGabundo> I use that too
[19:37] <BUGabundo> not as much
[19:37] <BUGabundo> is there a way to force a shortcut in one of the new page icons?
[19:42] <fta> shortcut?
[19:42] <fta> you mean the vignettes?
[19:43] <BUGabundo> no idea
[19:44] <BUGabundo> the liltle squares, with the image of the site
[19:46] <fta> pin them
[19:46] <fta> you can move them, or make them stick (with the pin)
[19:47] <BUGabundo> tried that
[19:47] <BUGabundo> but I can't find a page I want
[19:47] <BUGabundo> I have one (gmail) pinned already
[19:47] <micahg> BUGabundo: if fta respins xul193 and ff37, it should work fine again
[19:48] <BUGabundo> micahg: work what?
[19:48] <BUGabundo> everything is dandy here
[19:48]  * micahg will be back later
[19:48] <micahg> Flash
[19:48] <BUGabundo> flash is broken ?
[19:48] <BUGabundo> lol
[19:48] <fta> BUGabundo, you can close those vignettes to make room for new ones, then pin the one you need
[19:49] <fta> micahg, you need a respin of umd?
[19:50] <BUGabundo> fta: so no _manual_ way to force just one url?
[19:50] <fta> i don't know any
[19:50] <micahg> BUGabundo: out of process plugins was
[19:50] <micahg> fta: for me it doesn't matter, if he wants it now, then maybe
[19:51] <BUGabundo> micahg: ahhh I think I have that disable
[19:51] <BUGabundo> micahg: I would love to have flash fixed in chromium
[19:51] <BUGabundo> even html5 will fail to interact in many videos :(
[19:52] <micahg> BUGabundo: well, it'll work after a respin
[19:52] <micahg> or tonight with the new upload
[19:52] <ddecator> soooo...is FF3.7 not working for anyone else?
[19:53] <micahg> ddecator: it won't work for anyone ATM if OOPP isn't disabled
[19:53] <ddecator> micahg: huh, i thought i had it disabled..
[19:54] <ddecator> i can't even get to about:config to check =\
[20:02] <fta> BUGabundo, flash and html5 videos are fine for me in chromium
[20:04] <BUGabundo> I can't change volume
[20:04] <BUGabundo> on youtube
[20:05] <fta> wfm, just tried on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko
[20:07] <BUGabundo> I can't change volume
[20:07] <BUGabundo> http://www.youtube.com/html5
[20:07] <BUGabundo> http://www.youtube.com/html5
[20:07] <BUGabundo> are you on html5 beta?
[20:08] <fta> you said flash
[20:08] <BUGabundo> (2010-04-25 19:51:52) freenode: even html5 will fail to interact in many videos :(
[20:10] <fta> hm, confirmed. maybe a regression then, i remember it worked at some point
[20:10] <BUGabundo> yes
[20:15] <gnomefreak> micahg: if you still need me ill be around for a short while
[21:21] <micahg> gnomefreak: haven't started yet :(
[21:23] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok well im doing email >300 so ill be here a while. or we can do it tomorrow i should have alot more time than
[21:23] <micahg> gnomefreak: tomorrow is almost too late
[21:23] <gnomefreak> shit
[21:24] <gnomefreak> ok the plan is to use same source but disable sunbird part?
[21:25] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah, Tuesday 0:00 UTC is deadline
[21:28]  * gnomefreak not sure how to do that. i cant recall what file it is that says built this or what not. ok when im done with email if i have more time i will grab source and see what can be done but the problem that i am having is that using update-source(m-d job) will onlt give me the stable version. I would also like a build for PPA. i
[21:28] <micahg> gnomefreak: I can try to figure it out in a bit
[21:29] <gnomefreak> i am hoping to get up and here around 6-7am
[21:30] <micahg> gnomefreak: I'll keep that in mind
[21:35] <gnomefreak> something is wrong
[21:36] <gnomefreak> ok found it
[21:37] <gnomefreak> we really need to clean out the team branches. we have outdated branches as well as ones we dont update or use
[21:38] <micahg> gnomefreak: I'll work on that for maverick :)
[21:39] <gnomefreak> micahg: cool. im grabbing sunbird branch and look at it when email is done (hoping it will grab 1.0 since i havent tried in a long time.
[21:40] <micahg> gnomefreak: you should pull it with the tag
[21:46] <gnomefreak> brb looking to see if i have those in my commands file. i had a big issue in Sept 2009 and i have to try to remember alo tof things again (hence why im not having time for Lucid cycle. but i can not go into the cause of this.
[21:50] <micahg> gnomefreak: should be ./debian/rules DEBIAN_TAG=SUNBIRD_1_0b1_RELEASE=1.0~b1
[21:51] <gnomefreak> no need for update-orig?
[21:51] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, that should generate a new tarball if it's using the m-devscripts system
[21:52]  * micahg checks
[21:52] <gnomefreak> trying
[21:52] <gnomefreak> nope that doesnt work either
[21:52] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x$ ./debian/rules DEBIAN_TAG=SUNBIRD_1_0b1_RELEASE=1.0~b1
[21:52] <gnomefreak> cd: 1: can't cd to build-tree/mozilla
[21:52] <gnomefreak> test -x debian/rules
[21:53] <gnomefreak> i get prtty much the same thing using .debian/rules update-orig
[21:53] <micahg> gnomefreak: ah, it's because the mozclient conf is old
[21:53] <micahg> gnomefreak: I'll have to move it in source and update
[21:53] <micahg> gnomefreak: did you have a change to test seamokney?
[21:53] <micahg> *chance SM
[21:53] <gnomefreak> micahg: i didnt change it for SM2
[21:53] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, I did :)
[21:54] <gnomefreak> thats most likely why it started getting 2.1 instead of 2.00
[21:54] <gnomefreak> :)
[21:54] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, that's because comm-central brancehs
[21:54] <micahg> *branched
[21:54] <gnomefreak> right
[21:54] <micahg> gnomefreak: and it's about to branch again :)
[21:54]  * gnomefreak never had a chance to ply with mozclient
[21:55] <gnomefreak> yeah i heard
[21:56] <micahg> gnomefreak: could you test SM2 from my PPA?
[21:56] <gnomefreak> micahg: i am
[21:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: oh, how is it?
[21:57] <gnomefreak> so far no issues but its only been 1 day so far. friday and the time i have been here today
[21:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: really, that's great
[21:58] <gnomefreak> i just st it as default browser so more testing
[21:59] <micahg> gnomefreak: k, bookmarks are ok
[22:00] <gnomefreak> testing. i need to figure out if it uses html or json
[22:01]  * gnomefreak things drag and drop to :toolbar" or whatever the bar under the adddress/reload
[22:02] <gnomefreak> yeah i cant add them there for saome reason
[22:03] <micahg> gnomefreak: is there an error on the error console?
[22:03] <gnomefreak> not sure let me check
[22:05] <gnomefreak> i dont see it anywhere.
[22:06] <micahg> gnomefreak: Tools -> Web Dev -> Error Console
[22:07] <gnomefreak> ok looking i have to clear it and try again
[22:10] <gnomefreak> micahg: alot of BMDS is undefined  it gives a chrome://..... link
[22:10] <gnomefreak> oh and line numbers
[22:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: pastebin please
[22:12] <gnomefreak> yep its from dragggin it. ok i will also my bookmarks only show up if i use the button on the bar. if i go to bookmarks from menu it doesnt list them just allows managing and such
[22:12] <micahg> gnomefreak: I could very well not be installoing something
[22:14]  * gnomefreak having a few issues not related to SM but i thinkn X
[22:16] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422397/
[22:17] <gnomefreak> there are a crap load of the first one
[22:17] <gnomefreak> different line #s
[22:18] <gnomefreak> oh and it uses HTML and that is fine however it doesnt add the toolbar bookmarks that i draged and droped in firefox
[22:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, keep in mind it's Firefox 3.5.x
[22:19] <gnomefreak> it adds its own and wont let me remove or add others
[22:20] <gnomefreak> if i ever get screen shot working i will show you what i mean just need the keystrokes
[22:21] <BUGabundo> how can I print a website to image?
[22:22] <BUGabundo> using cups, to svg , makes it multipage
[22:24] <gnomefreak> well i cant get a screenshot of my bookmarks but they moved into the menu bookmarks finally
[22:24] <gnomefreak> everytime i hit alt the menu goes away
[22:25] <gnomefreak> ummmmmmmm
[22:26] <gnomefreak> ok micahg i say we dont use it. something is reallyy wrong for example i use menu or toolbar bookmarks optiona nd it doesnt open anything
[22:26] <gnomefreak> yep none
[22:27] <gnomefreak> BMDS is undefined line 1083 i9s what shows up when trying to opena  bookmark
[22:30] <gnomefreak> micahg: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1453/seamonkey20toolbar.png look at the bar with home bookmarks seamonkey.... i cant add or remove wny of them
[22:31] <gnomefreak> i am guess they are all related to chrome crap. chrome has always had issues afaik
[22:31]  * gnomefreak goes for drink and smoke while i am on the phone
[22:38] <gnomefreak> well at least thunderbird only has one bug here atm
[22:38] <micahg> gnomefreak: which one?
[22:39]  * micahg starts anotehr local SM2 build to see what's missing
[22:40] <gnomefreak> micahg: the one you were going to look at but here is the bug anyway bug 564738
[22:40] <micahg> gnomefreak: I thought that was working again
[22:40] <gnomefreak> nope not here it isnt
[22:41] <micahg> gnomefreak: extension conflict?
[22:41] <gnomefreak> are you sure you are not thinging of the sending emails?
[22:42] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, I tested this one it WFM
[22:42] <gnomefreak> micahg: only one is enigmail nothing else is enabled/working
[22:44] <gnomefreak> hold on a minute screenshot comeing
[22:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: i made the compose window longer so you can see everything here is the screenshot http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6325/thunderbirdreplybug.png
[22:46] <gnomefreak> notice the top left of body window is the curser
[22:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: yep, what are the settings for that identity?
[22:47] <gnomefreak> reply below message
[22:47] <gnomefreak> there is a screenshot on the bug of that
[22:48] <gnomefreak> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44433356/Thunderbird-bug_%23564738-1.png micahg
[22:48] <gnomefreak> that for all accounts. i set them all the same
[22:48] <gnomefreak> and i finally got rid of the yellow bar :)
[22:49] <gnomefreak> maybe beacuse you are using stable lucid version not daily?
[22:50] <micahg> gnomefreak: did you check to see if the second account there has that set, that's the account in both the screenshots I saw
[22:52] <gnomefreak> micahg: all of the accounts are set that way
[22:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: ok, just asking if you verified lately
[22:52] <gnomefreak> all 8 accounts
[22:55] <gnomefreak> micahg: i added a screenshot of the addons window to upstream bug just to rule out that
[22:55] <gnomefreak> mozilla 441402
[22:56] <gnomefreak> opps
[22:56] <gnomefreak> mozilla 559832
[22:56] <micahg> gnomefreak: I have it
[22:56] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[22:56] <micahg> k, but I was wondering if you checked the settings on that second account recently
[22:57] <gnomefreak> yep when i took screenshot i looked at all of them
[22:57] <micahg> k
[22:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: anything on error console in TB?
[22:57] <gnomefreak> not sure ill check
[22:59] <gnomefreak> nope nothing
[23:02] <gnomefreak> i thought we dont have libmozjs and havent
[23:16] <micahg> gnomefreak: we don't
[23:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: hi, still working out a few issues, hopefully in the morning we'll have SM2 and lightning
[23:16] <gnomefreak> than why would we update it in Ubuntu :( let me see if i still have the email
[23:17] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, thanks
[23:17] <micahg> gnomefreak: there's an open request upstream to make it possible for us to have it again
[23:17] <chrisccoulson> i've just upgraded my desktop to lucid tonight. epic fail!
[23:17] <micahg> chrisccoulson: really
[23:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: what's wrong? wfm, but I use Xubuntu :D
[23:18] <chrisccoulson> micahg - xorg uses 100% cpu and is pretty much unusable
[23:18] <chrisccoulson> for some reason, it starts on vt6, on top of getty
[23:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: is that the GLX issue?
[23:19] <chrisccoulson> i don't think so. if i restart Xorg and get it running on a different VT, then it works ok
[23:19] <chrisccoulson> and i don't see the plymouth text theme either, so i had to sit through an entire 30 minute fsck after doing the upgrade too
[23:19] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I meant the 100% issue
[23:20] <chrisccoulson> micahg - the 100% cpu issue seems to be because it's fighting getty fot the tty
[23:20] <micahg> ah
[23:20]  * micahg is worried about this release
[23:20]  * micahg worries too much
[23:20] <chrisccoulson> heh ;)
[23:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: this is the first release that I've been packaging for
[23:22] <micahg> chrisccoulson: have you seen bug 569460
[23:22] <chrisccoulson> it's always a bit like this a few days before release ;)
[23:22] <micahg> I saw this early on, but I thought it was fixed
[23:23] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i've not noticed that before. the broken icon on the panel still exists during the upgrade, but should recover after a reboot
[23:23] <chrisccoulson> (that's related to another bug where the gdk pixbuf loaders try to load the newer glibc in to memory whilst the old one is still there)
[23:24] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ah, ok, before it was an issue that the path was wrong (firefox-3.6 instead of firefox)
[23:25] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i don't think that's an issue atm, but bug 456468 might cause issues for panel icons during the upgrade
[23:28] <gnomefreak76> ff icon being removed or turning into a generic icon is normally do to change icon from us or the user using a icon we do not provide
[23:28] <gnomefreak76> it happens to any icon AFAIR
[23:29] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak76, that's true. but, in this case, there is a known issue with reloading icons during the upgrade after glibc has been updated
[23:29] <gnomefreak76> chrisccoulson: ah ok
[23:29] <chrisccoulson> well, after both glibc and gtk have been updated
[23:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you think this is enough of a change to update a release for: http://pastebin.com/45qTZush
[23:40] <micahg> gnomefreak76: I goofed before, it should be ./debian/rules get-orig-source DEBIAN_TAG=SUNBIRD_1_0b1_RELEASE=1.0~b1
[23:44] <gnomefreak76> micahg: it uses update-orig in rules i had wanted to use get-orig-source but never changes it
[23:44] <micahg> gnomefreak76: mozilla-devscripts has the target
[23:45] <gnomefreak76> ok give me  aminute
[23:45] <micahg> gnomefreak76: it still won't work without updating moving mozclient in source and  updating the conf file
[23:45] <gnomefreak76> oh ok
[23:49] <gnomefreak76> dont forget rules needs to be updated as well


[00:45] <|easy|> thx for all i quit maybe cya later
[02:09] <greenbarca2001> hi all, I'm having trouble setting up the DNS settings for a subdomain
[02:09] <greenbarca2001> for some reason it isn't working and I've spent hours trying to fix it
[02:13] <tomreyn> greenbarca2001: how does this relate to ubuntu then?
[02:14] <greenbarca2001> oh I need to do it with bind9
[02:14] <greenbarca2001> is there a more suitable irc chat for this? I tried finding one but I couldn't
[02:17] <tomreyn> greenbarca2001: i guess here is fine if you have bind related questions. i'm not very much into it, though, maybe soemone else is.
[02:18] <tomreyn> i guess you'll want two zone files, one for the main domain name (second level domain) and another for the subdomain (third level domain), and have a NS record for the subdomain in the main domain's zone file.
[02:19] <tomreyn> this way you can have the subdomain delegated to a different authoritative nameserver, which is, from what i understan, your goal.
[02:19] <tomreyn> there may also be a bind(9= channel, i haven't checked.
[02:19] <tomreyn> !alis
[02:20] <tomreyn> there is also ##networking, but they may be bored by such questions ;-)
[02:21] <greenbarca2001> thank you! i don't want different name servers, I want both the domain and subdomain to have the same nameservers
[02:21] <greenbarca2001> I just want them to be different domains, this is possible right?
[02:23] <tomreyn> two domains are not the same by definition. i guess i don't understand.
[02:24] <tomreyn> A is not B. Also B.A is not A.
[02:24] <greenbarca2001> I want a domain example.org, and a subdomain conference.example.org, but I want them to use the same nameservers
[02:24] <greenbarca2001> namely, ns1.example.org and ns2.example.org
[02:24] <greenbarca2001> this should be possible, right?
[02:25] <tomreyn> sure. and this nameserver is run by you?
[02:25] <tomreyn> *these nameservers are
[02:26] <greenbarca2001> yep, I configured them in namecheap
[02:26] <greenbarca2001> if that's what you're asking
[02:27] <tomreyn> maybe, depends on how you configured them. i'm asking whether ns1.example.org and ns2.example.org point to servers you manage.
[02:28] <tomreyn> i assume one of them is the one you are trying to configure bind on
[02:28] <greenbarca2001> oh yes they do
[02:28] <greenbarca2001> they both point to my server IP address
[02:28] <greenbarca2001> I only have one server
[02:28] <greenbarca2001> 2 nameservers
[02:29] <tomreyn> well that's not how do you dns. with just one server you can point the second to some free backup dns.
[02:30] <tomreyn> search the web for "free secondary dns" OR "free backup dns"
[02:30] <tomreyn> maybe namecheap also provides one.
[02:33] <greenbarca2001> I mean the main domain works
[02:34] <greenbarca2001> I don't quite understand what you mean, the ns2 name server is the backup
[02:34] <greenbarca2001> I looked up what you said it seems as though I'm already using Namecheap’s Secondary DNS?
[02:35] <tomreyn> how would i know?
[11:52] <hellerz> Hello guys, I have installed XRDP on my ubuntu 16.04 LTS. 18 days and today I'm trying to connect to my server through remote desktop but It won't let me
[11:52] <hellerz> Is there a way to fix this without reboot?
[12:45] <sine`> I have just installed ubuntu server and install the unity desktop. how can I access a desktop remotely
[12:51] <xibalba> I could use some assistance with some basic IPTables (not my forte). I have setup a SSH VPN from my network to a remote cloud system. I want to use my local system as a gateway and forward all traffic incoming on ens160 to tun0. I can ping from tun0 on my local system to tun0 on the remote system, so no issue there. When I put in my IPTables commands to Forward incoming traffic from ens160 to tun0, I never see it make it into the
[12:51] <xibalba>  tun0 interface on the local system (checked with tshark/tcpdump)
[12:51] <xibalba> i used the following commands, /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o tun0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[12:52] <xibalba> opps i meant ens160 not eth0
[13:05] <xibalba> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FX7wXgSHNv/
[13:17] <qman__> ok, a couple things - did you turn on IP forwarding, and did you set up the routes?
[14:36] <jimmy06> Im trying to install Server 18.04 but the network config times out anyone got any ideas about this?
[14:37] <jimmy06> https://i.imgur.com/jBJVPgb.png
[14:38] <jimmy06> https://i.imgur.com/VkMwffJ.png
[14:38] <compdoc> thats odd looking. text based browser?
[14:39] <blackflow> jimmy06: Hetzner?
[14:39] <compdoc> you setup netplan?
[14:39] <jimmy06> hetzner yes
[14:39] <blackflow> jimmy06: wrong gateway
[14:39] <jimmy06> this setup worked on 16.x just now
[14:39] <jimmy06> gateway is correct
[14:39] <jimmy06> its a hetzner thing
[14:40] <blackflow> I know, but did it end up in .1 or .2 ?
[14:40] <blackflow> iirc was .1
[14:40] <jimmy06> I dont understand the question sorry
[14:40] <jimmy06> .1 or .2 ?
[14:40] <blackflow> and you really don't need to obfuscate it, it's a RFC 1918 subnet, private and non-routable
[14:41] <jimmy06> you sure about that?
[14:41] <jimmy06> its my main servers ip addres
[14:41] <jimmy06> the gateway
[14:41] <jimmy06> then other server is a vm
[14:42] <jimmy06> the screen shots are from a proxmox vm
[14:42] <blackflow> jimmy06: yes, the gateway. isn't it <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[14:42] <blackflow> ah... 172.16....
[14:42] <jimmy06> the gateway ip is the server ip
[14:43] <jimmy06> 176.x.x.xx2
[14:43] <jimmy06> 176.9.3.xx2
[14:43] <blackflow> jimmy06: nevermind, I misread that gateway as Hetzner's CX gateways that are in the RF1918 range
[14:43] <jimmy06> fair enough :)
[14:43] <jimmy06> normally i have to install 16.x without an adaptor config
[14:43] <blackflow> 172.16..... 176....   all them numbers buzzing around
[14:44] <jimmy06> then config it after but I cant skip it at all here
[14:49] <jimmy06> compdoc: what do you mean by thats an odd looking text based browser?
[14:50] <compdoc> I asked if it was. never saw that before
[14:50] <jimmy06> no its the installer for 18.04 server
[14:51] <compdoc> ah. I havent used that yet
[14:54] <jimmy06> I cant even press the F keys to move to another console :( lol
[14:54] <jimmy06> Oh wait I might be able to switch the network device and get it installed with a private NAT interface then change it afterwards
[14:56] <RoyK> jimmy06: ctrl+alt+f1
[14:56] <RoyK> the new installer really sucks
[14:57] <RoyK> better use the old one
[14:58] <jimmy06> I cant use F keys RoyK as its a VM console in a browser
[14:58] <jimmy06> my other approach worked
[14:58] <jimmy06> its installing now
[14:58] <jimmy06> in fact its done :D
[15:31] <jimmy06> ah balls it seems it still wont accept the default gateway
[15:39] <jimmy06> got it used on-link
[18:02] <mwhudson> tomreyn: oh man, i just need to make subiquity/curtin understand "use all the remaining space for this partition"
[18:05] <tomreyn> mwhudson: yes, looks like it doesn't understand this., although it shows correct (or correctly seeming) sizes on the GUI
[18:05] <mwhudson> yeah, the calculations are almost right
[18:05] <mwhudson> just not down to the last k or whatever
[18:06] <tomreyn> it could always ask the tools what's actually available
[18:07] <mwhudson> no, because at the time you are editing things in the ui no actual changes are being made to the disks
[18:07]  * mwhudson --> food
[18:08] <tomreyn> hmm you're right, of course, it doesn't create the PV at this point, just partitions are written.