[05:40] <D4rkly> if you edit the xp vm's settings the go to options there is a shared folders options in which you can choose a linux folder to share but i just cant find in in xp
[05:41] <cannonball> waspius: In a very generic nutshell, sudo allows you to do things as root (or as whatever user is specified in the sudo config file) without having to know that user's password.  You only need to verify that you are who you say you are by using _your_ password, instead of that target user's.
[05:41] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:41] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:41] <Jucato> !sudo
[05:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:41] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: going to have answer your question with a question. What are you trying to do?
[05:41] <Jucato> !su
[05:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:41] <Jucato> err... no entry for su. lol
[05:41] <waspius> :
[05:41] <waspius> :)
[05:42] <Hobbsee> !bad device error is <reply>If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[05:42] <ubotu> ('bad device error', 's!.*!<reply>If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0!')
[05:42] <Hobbsee> !bad device error is <reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[05:42] <ubotu> ('bad device error', 's!.*!<reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0!')
[05:42] <Jucato> I think "su" is used to log in as any user, you have to specify, though, otherwise it tries to login as the root user by default.
[05:43] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: trying to figure out if your /boot is a seperate partition than your /, because grub thinks it is and can't find the device (/dev/whatever) that it thinks /boot is mounted with.
[05:43] <BloodyNO> I just installed Sun JRE and Opera browser's text is completely blurry - does anyone recognizes this problem?
[05:43] <Jucato> so "su <username>" will try to log you in as  <username> in the command line. but plain "su" will try to log you in as root
[05:43] <Jucato> but since Ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default, "su" will not normally work (unless you enable a root account)
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964  I can't make it sticky on the Kubuntu forums unfortunately but it's there
[05:44] <Hobbsee> !baddeviceerror is <reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[05:44] <ubotu> ('baddeviceerror', 's!.*!<reply> If you are receiving the warning messages similar to: Error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 then please follow this how-to to solve the problem:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0!')
[05:44] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: still borked.
[05:45] <Jucato> Hawkwind: cool! thanks for that. I'll try asking one of the mods to make it a sticky
[05:45] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: well on my pc you will have the MBR that grub will use to start the OS off, a swap partition, root partition and home partition, as far as I am aware /boot would be in the root partition on my pc
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Chop the bots head off, maybe that will help :P
[05:45] <Hobbsee> hah
[05:45] <Jucato> lol
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: or the guy who wrote the bot
[05:45] <Hobbsee> i think that would be against the CoC though....
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Who can we report this problem to ?
[05:46] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: try added --recheck  to the grub-install commandline to make it rescan for devices.
[05:46] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: Also, put your /etc/grub/menu.lst into a pastebin and let us take a look at it.
[05:46] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: We could chop his head off with all due respect.  In a positive manner :P
[05:46] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: seveas?  i'll whine at him when i next see him
[05:46] <Hobbsee> if i remember
[05:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: that's not to say some put /boot in a seperate partition
[05:46] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: while you're at it, put 'cat /proc/mounts' into that pastebin too.
[05:46] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: and 'cat /etc/fstab'
[05:47] <Jucato> how do you chop one's head off with all due respect? "Oh, excuse me, but we would like to respectfully chop off your head.Please do not try to move, as we do not with to make a mess. We will try to make it as swift and painless as possible. Thank you for your cooperation."
[05:47] <Jucato> s/with/wish
[05:47] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Exactly.  Then we shouldn't be violating the CoC :P
[05:48] <Jucato> right... the CoC doesn't mention anything about online/virtual homicide, right?
[05:48] <Jucato> lol
[05:48] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It probably will after we get done though
[05:48] <Hawkwind> Hah
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20893
[05:49] <D4rkly> anyone got WoW working in wine if i use -opengl it wont load
[05:52] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: and when you do a grub-install, you're doing 'grub-install /dev/hda2' or 'grub-install /dev/hda'?
[05:52] <cannonball> Add to that pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:52] <larson9999> D4rkly: i think darrkness said he did.  i htink these are the sites he said worked for him: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50414 http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3149&sid=ad258914a9a2c11baf1ab86a0b7abfbe
[05:53] <larson9999> D4rkly: he said that 2nd was for cedaga but it worked in wine
[05:53] <D4rkly> ok cool :) thx
[05:53] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: hmm never had to do one, I would have thought  /dev/hda what does the documentation say?
[05:53] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: the documentation just says "put it where you need it".  We're trying to determine which one you need it to be.
[05:54] <larson9999> D4rkly: i copied the links because i'm going to give it a try but i haven't yet
[05:54] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: put your /boot/grub/menu.lst into the pastebin so I can look and see how grub is configured.
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: probable need to ask someone with more knowledge than me :-)
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: ok
[05:56] <gan|y|med> hello
[05:56] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20894
[05:57] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: let me know what works :-)
[05:57] <gan|y|med> how is the ipw2200 (wlan) firmware implemented in ubuntu? i have my own kernel, but there is no hotplug dir to put the firmware into. but the standard kernel works with wlan.
[05:58] <waspius> do u know how to setup hotmail with thunderbird?
[05:59] <Hawkwind> waspius: Get yourself a Gmail account and leave hotmail for Windows users :)
[05:59] <waspius> Hawkwind: :) i cannot cause i have it for many years
[06:00] <Hawkwind> waspius: You can forward your hotmail email to another email account IIRC
[06:00] <waspius> Hawkwind: is that good?
[06:01] <TheGateKeeper> waspius: want an gmail invite?
[06:02] <waspius> TheGateKeeper: sure
[06:02] <Hawkwind> waspius: If you can forward it from hotmail, I surely would
[06:02] <TheGateKeeper> waspius: pm me a email address to send it to
[06:02] <waspius> ok
[06:03] <waspius> TheGateKeeper: do u pay for iirc?
[06:03] <TheGateKeeper> waspius: no!
[06:03] <gan|y|med> how is wlan firmware implemented in ubuntu? udev?
[06:04] <TheGateKeeper> waspius: I am a yorkshire, don't pay b****er all if I don't have to :-)
[06:04] <Tokeiito> could any one give name of good RPG or Strategic game for linux. Now i'm playing freeciv, but it become boring...
[06:05] <Tokeiito> tryed planeshift, but my graphic card is too week for it
[06:05] <waspius> TheGateKeeper: lol..which is the webpage for it?
[06:05] <TheGateKeeper> waspius: for what?
[06:05] <waspius> TheGateKeeper: iirc
[06:06] <waspius> cant seem to find it
[06:07] <TheGateKeeper> waspius: this what you are after?? http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
[06:08] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[06:08] <waspius> TheGateKeeper: yep thanx
[06:09] <larson9999> Tokeiito: have you looked in the linux game tomb?
[06:09] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: had to use the command line in windows today, dreadfull, bash has spoilt me :-)
[06:09] <Ace2005> Windows has a command line?
[06:09] <trappist> Ace2005: sort of
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> Ace2005: debatable :-)
[06:10] <Tokeiito> tomb?
[06:10] <larson9999> TheGateKeeper: well, if you HAVE to use windows, put some unix commands on.  you can get it looking pretty close to *nix
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> Ace2005: trappist a bad excuse for one
[06:10] <Ace2005> Maybe its just never used i guess
[06:11] <larson9999> Ace2005: you were serious?  sure it's got a command line.
[06:11] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: hmmm that's a good idea
[06:11] <Ace2005> yes i am serious
[06:11] <Freddy2> larson9999: not so close.. but gnu command line utils for windows (including also bash) does its job "great"
[06:11] <trappist> it's not terribly useful
[06:11] <larson9999> TheGateKeeper: there are lots of the linux commands that have been ported.  shells, too.
[06:12] <Ace2005> i just type stuff like ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx in the run boc
[06:12] <trappist> yeah if you install cygwin suddenly it's not so bad
[06:12] <larson9999> Freddy2: well, kinda close.  windwos will never be linux.
[06:12] <larson9999> trappist: i was talking withough cygwin
[06:12] <larson9999> without
[06:12] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: interesting idea, but using konsol is just a much more pleasent experience
[06:13] <Ace2005> Yup i like konsole
[06:13] <trappist> larson9999: yeah there are ways to get this and that unix cli utility, but if you install cygwin you get pretty much everything you'd want
[06:13] <Freddy2> i'd like to have a multi-tab konsole for windows, but.. xD
[06:13] <larson9999> TheGateKeeper: i just meant if you HAVE to like for work etc.  i had to do some bat files at work so i installed sed, et al to make things sane.
[06:14] <larson9999> trappist: yeah but sometimes you can't install cygwin.  and i was just pointing out that even if you can't use cygwin you can still do a lot to make the command prompt reasonable.  that's all
[06:15] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: I am in the same position, my primary OS at home is now linux, but at work I still have to use windows
[06:15] <larson9999> TheGateKeeper: i don't want that to change really.  windows has made me a lot of money :)
[06:15] <waspius> i installed thunderbird and now i cannot remove it...apt-get remove thunderbird shows that it is not installed and adept shows it is not installed..but it is still in the menu and it still works
[06:16] <Ace2005> waspius: Install it again and then remove it
[06:16] <waspius> ok
[06:16] <larson9999> waspius: did you install it outside of apt?
[06:16] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: alright for everyone else :-) :-)
[06:16] <Kiongku> hey ppl. u know where qt-config is found?
[06:16] <waspius> larson9999: yes
[06:16] <west-en> can i get help with midi?
[06:17] <gebruiker123> how much memmory is needed for Kubuntu?
[06:17] <epyfro> 256
[06:17] <epyfro> mg
[06:17] <larson9999> waspius: if you installed it without using apt, it won't think it's installed and you'll have to uninstall without apt, too.  afiak
[06:17] <gebruiker123> epyfro: you use 256?
[06:17] <TheGateKeeper> gebruiker123: works on my test box P3, 12Mb RAM 20Gb HDD
[06:17] <Freddy2> epyfro: 256 without X running?
[06:17] <waspius> larson9999: so what should i do???apt-get remove thunderbird does not work
[06:18] <epyfro> no i use 2g
[06:18] <TheGateKeeper> 128Mb RAM ooops can't type today
[06:18] <gebruiker123> i have 256 here and kde is slow as hell
[06:18] <epyfro> yep
[06:18] <larson9999> waspius: check out the thunderbird site and see how it says to uninstall it.
[06:18] <gebruiker123> why?
[06:18] <waspius> ok
[06:18] <gebruiker123> kde should run smooth right?
[06:18] <waspius> thanx
[06:18] <Freddy2> sure.. kde uses lots of resources
[06:18] <gebruiker123> (with 256 mb..)
[06:18] <Ace2005> Its not called thunderbird is it? isn't it mozilla-thunderbird or something?
[06:18] <gebruiker123> so why is 256 not enough?
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> gebruiker123: can be a bit resource hungry
[06:19] <gebruiker123> konquror is slow
[06:19] <gebruiker123> (in starting)
[06:19] <waspius> Ace2005: yes i think u r right
[06:19] <waspius> thanx
[06:19] <gebruiker123> so why does kubuntu say 256 mb needed?
[06:19] <Freddy2> you'll have to upgrade your system, or move to another lighter desktop
[06:19] <larson9999> Ace2005: oh yeah waspius if you installed via apt, it's called mozilla-thunderbird and not thunderbird
[06:19] <waspius> ok i removed it
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> gebruiker123: what processor?
[06:19] <pierreth> hello, how can I add an icon to a kicker menu item?
[06:20] <gebruiker123> TheGateKeeper: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz
[06:21] <TheGateKeeper> pierreth: right click Menu editor
[06:21] <Freddy2> celeron sux
[06:21] <Kiongku> got 1 Gb ram.. no prob
[06:21] <Kiongku> and yeah celeron sucks.
[06:21] <trappist> pierreth: run kmenuedit and edit the entry
[06:21] <dooglus> gebruiker123: I'm running KDE, firefox, evolution, emacs, mplay, konsole and gaim - it's using 277mB in totaol.
[06:22] <gebruiker123> Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz | 256 mb | 38GB
[06:22] <dooglus> gebruiker123: 2.2GHz Intel P4
[06:22] <waspius> is there a way to make the auto run to show any program i want in it?ie if i input a dvd to get xine to start?
[06:22] <gebruiker123> Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz | 256 mb | 38GB  (Should it be that it takes quite a while to fireup konq or firefox?
[06:22] <gebruiker123> )
[06:23] <pierreth> trappist: there is no way to add on icon with this editor
[06:23] <TheGateKeeper> true also with my P3 box
[06:23] <Freddy2> without using amarok and akregator you shouldn't have much problems when using kde, i think
[06:24] <trappist> pierreth: but there is.  you click the square where you would see the item's icon if it already had one, and you get an icon selection interface
[06:25] <pierreth> trappist: ok, I see!
[06:25] <gebruiker123> TheGateKeeper: what does you hdparm output look like?
[06:26] <Kiongku> Freddy2: nice.. makes me remember to start my amarok for some music XD
[06:26] <Freddy2> xD
[06:27] <gebruiker123>  Timing cached reads:   1152 MB in  2.01 seconds = 574.36 MB/sec
[06:27] <gebruiker123>  Timing buffered disk reads:   46 MB in  3.04 seconds =  15.15 MB/sec
[06:27] <gebruiker123> TheGateKeeper: normal?
[06:27] <TheGateKeeper> gebruiker123: sorry no idea, haven't got my test box connected up at the moment
[06:27] <Freddy2> gebruiker123: and of course don't use superkaramba if you have a high cpu usage
[06:27] <larson9999> big day today... going to install linux on my wife's laptop
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: does she know?
[06:28] <Freddy2> xDD
[06:28] <gebruiker123> Freddy2: i don't use superkaramba just default kubuntu settings
[06:28] <gebruiker123>  VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT82 <-- my hd
[06:28] <larson9999> lol@ TheGateKeeper: yeah.  just on an external hd.  but i've been prepping her for the idea for years
[06:29] <gebruiker123> [  177.803552]  VP_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:
[06:30] <pierreth> is there a version of konsole that is less buggy?
[06:30] <gebruiker123> aterm?
[06:30] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: still got her comfort zone then lol
[06:30] <Freddy2> konsole buggy? what kde version?
[06:31] <pierreth> Freddy2: how can i know?
[06:32] <Freddy2> at konqueror/konsole, help / about kde
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: keep threatening my other half with a linux install of her laptop :-)
[06:32] <larson9999> TheGateKeeper: yeah, but she has used linux off and on for a while.  i'm setting up a separate machine that will only run mainframe emulator that we'll also network into so hopefully soon enough this house will be very close to most of the enviroments i've worked in.
[06:32] <pierreth> Freddy2: i don't have the konsole
[06:33] <Freddy2> not konqueror or any other k-app too?
[06:33] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: cool :-)
[06:33] <pierreth> Freddy2: 3.5.2 from konqueror
[06:33] <larson9999> TheGateKeeper: she has masters in CIS(i think that's right) but doesn't work and doesn't really want to 'practice' but i'm doing my best to make her.  i've finally got her convinced start a project that makes toddler levels for OSS games that include level editors.
[06:34] <Freddy2> hmm what do you mean "buggy"?
[06:34] <pierreth> Freddy2: you type a loooong line, it continues on the same lines instead of going down
[06:35] <dooglus> pierreth: doesn't that depend what program you're running inside it?
[06:35] <Freddy2> i had never seen it before..
[06:35] <pierreth> dooglus: no, i don't this problem with Terminal from xfce
[06:36] <Freddy2> but this appears only using bash inside konsole? that's a bit strange
[06:36] <pierreth> dooglus: using bash for example
[06:36] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: CIS??
[06:37] <pierreth> Freddy2: i don't know....
[06:37] <Freddy2> pierreth: try to upgrade to 3.5.4, or simply post a new bug at kde's site
[06:37] <Freddy2> what distro are you using?
[06:37] <larson9999> TheGateKeeper: computer major.  i didn't go to college and don't listen well to my wife so i don't know the acronym  :)
[06:37] <pierreth> Freddy2: ok, is 3.5.4 ready for production?
[06:38] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: we all suffer from that one (not lisening to hard :-) )
[06:38] <Freddy2> 3.5.4 is better than 3.5.3, and this one is better than 3.52, and so on
[06:38] <pierreth> ok
[06:38] <Freddy2> *3.5.2
[06:38] <larson9999> one thing i notice in 3.5.4 is that progress bars extend beyond their boundaries
[06:39] <pierreth> Freddy2: i should go to the kde website and see how to upgrade?
[06:39] <enzo> I cannot log into my desktop. It keeps looping to my login screen
[06:39] <larson9999> maybe progress bar isn't the proper term
[06:39] <Freddy2> what distro are you using?
[06:39] <enzo> any ideas?
[06:39] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: Sorry for the delay, had something to attend to.
[06:39] <pierreth> Freddy2: Kubuntu
[06:39] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: you winning?
[06:39] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: your config looks ok.  Unless /dev/hda and /dev/hda2 don't exist, I'm not sure what the problem is.
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> pierreth: use the (k)ubuntu wiki site
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> pierreth: there is a repo for 3.5.4
[06:40] <pierreth> TheGateKeeper: Ok
[06:40] <Freddy2> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: try download gparted livecd see what it makes of it, can you backup and reinstall as a last resort?
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: you using SATA?
[06:43] <Cavallo> hi
[06:43] <Cavallo> how I can connect to vpn netwrok at workplace ?
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> Cavallo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_Configure_and_start_PPTP_tunnels_.28VPN.29
[06:44] <pierreth> TheGateKeeper: how can I use the package file?
[06:45] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: no, we use scsi only.
[06:45] <TheGateKeeper> add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: I'm a little confused now.  Why are you asking me questions?  My system is working fine.  We're trying to fix your grub install problem.  No?
[06:45] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: not a driver problem so not recognising your HDD correctly??
[06:46] <pierreth> TheGateKeeper: you mean append the file?
[06:46] <cannonball> trappist: Holy cow.  It's been years since I've seen you around.  Good to see you're still alive!
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: I haven't got a grub install problem, think you have picked on the wrong person, I thought it was you with the problem :-)
[06:47] <Freddy2> haha
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: woundered why that question came out of the blue :-)
[06:48] <Kiongku> anyone konws where i can find the qtconfig in kubuntu?
[06:48] <cannonball> TheGateKeeper: you're right, it was TheFuzzBall (nick completion bangs me this time) :-)
[06:49] <GameX> zxc
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> cannonball: close :-)
[06:49] <Freddy2> Kiongku: a common place is /usr/lib/qt3/bin, but try find
[06:49] <Kiongku> i cant find the bin
[06:50] <Roman> sdsd
[06:50] <nagyv> hello! how can I kill a defunct program (Skype) that uses my sound device?
[06:50] <Roman> chil
[06:51] <Roman> wy can skype not share my sound device with other programs
[06:51] <trappist> cannonball!
[06:51] <trappist> cannonball: so you've found the light too, eh?
[06:51] <cannonball> Long time no see.  Join the #Kubuntu-Offtopic channel, let's catch up?
[06:51] <roberto1> HElp my os crashes due to kernel32.dll
[06:51] <Freddy2> wtf?
[06:51] <roberto1> in wine
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> roberto1, oh
[06:52] <roberto1> in wine
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i was about to call you a super n00b
[06:52] <Freddy2> xD
[06:52] <roberto1> why Admiral_Chicago ?
[06:52] <pierreth> TheGateKeeper: OK
[06:52] <nagyv> Roman: because it is buggy, but there are several wrappers/workarounds
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> because i thought you were asking for help in a linux room for some windows error
[06:52] <roberto1> Admiral_Chicago,  how is Jerry SPringer doing?
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> roberto1, i have no idea, i don't use wine
[06:53] <roberto1> beer only huh?
[06:53] <roberto1> :P
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> I don't think he's on, but I'm not exactly looking for him
[06:53] <roberto1> oh
[06:54] <luizhenriqueunic> galera
[06:54] <luizhenriqueunic> alguem pode me ajudar
[06:55] <Freddy2> si hablas en ingles.. seguramente
[06:56] <juanchinho> hello
[06:56] <Roman> nagyv i dont understond
[06:56] <wind> is it possible to install ubuntu alongside kubuntu?
[06:57] <wind> then switch between the two
[06:57] <wind> so i don't lose all the settings and whatnot on kubuntu
[06:58] <jeff_hann> wind: why not install gnome-desktop?
[06:58] <nagyv> Roman: what? google for skype_dsp_hijacker and look at http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=48195
[06:58] <D4rkly> you should be able to put in on another drive or create more partitions. you may need to reconfigure grub though
[06:58] <wind> i can do that?
[06:58] <jeff_hann> of course
[06:59] <nagyv> Roman: the tips&tricks can be useful here http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete%20skype/#cp-content too
[06:59] <jeff_hann> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[06:59] <wind> how
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> wind, you could dual boot?
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wait, yea you can
[06:59] <wind> yeah
[06:59] <wind> i want to duel boot
[06:59] <wind> dual
[06:59] <pierreth> TheGateKeeper: i will wait for the upgrade, it is too complicated :-(
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> resize your partition, then install ubuntu as regular
[07:00] <nagyv> Roman: I have found these steps. Until today I used the dsp_hijacker, I tryed to switch to the forum's solutions, but I am not really satisfied albeit its first nice results.
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> then in konsole type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> wind, i think you can also make it so your settings stay on one part
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> just log in in Gnome or KDE depending
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> unless you want different settings and date....
[07:00] <wind> i have kubuntu right now
[07:00] <wind> i want to have ubuntu too?
[07:00] <wind> can both share everything i've done?
[07:01] <wind> same bookmarks, same settings, codecs, etc
[07:01] <waspius> anyone play cs ?
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> wind, yea just install Gnome by doing apt-get install gnome-desktop I think...
[07:02] <wind> k
[07:02] <jeff_hann> and switch from kdm
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> check in adept/synaptic
[07:03] <wind> would it let me change through the login manager?
[07:03] <wind> like when i reboot, i get the login screen then i can pick kubuntu or ubuntu
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> log in as Gnome or KDE
[07:04] <Kiongku> anyone compiled krusader here?
[07:04] <roberto1> does xgl work with kde?
[07:05] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Why would you need to compile it ?  Just sudo apt-get install krusader
[07:05] <roberto1> FRIENDS!!!!!!
[07:05] <roberto1> FELLOW GEEKS!! :P
[07:05] <Hawkwind> roberto1: Easy on the caps
[07:05] <roberto1> ok :)
[07:05] <roberto1> soz
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> does anyone know the font used in the ubuntu logo
[07:06] <Hawkwind> !xgl > roberto1
[07:06] <nagyv> !xgl > nagyv
[07:06] <TheFuzzball> how do I upgrade from KDE 3.5.2 to 3.5.4 in Dapper
[07:06] <Hawkwind> TheFuzzball: Add the right sources to your sources.list
[07:07] <Roman> nagyv no not skype for google
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> TheFuzzball, kubuntu.or
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu.org
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> add the key
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> and add the line to your sources.list
[07:07] <nagyv> Roman: sorry, what not for what? :)
[07:08] <Hawkwind> TheFuzzball: # kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version (packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)
[07:08] <Hawkwind> #deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[07:09] <trappist> so, gpg --recv-keys DD4D5088; gpg --export --armour DD4D5088 > kubuntu.asc; sudo apt-key add kubuntu.asc
[07:15] <jaspreet> hi
[07:18] <gabriel> hi?
[07:20] <wind> ok i installed ubuntu now what
[07:20] <wind> do i have to setup a login or can i use the one i have now
[07:20] <magda> halo?
[07:21] <gabriel> I have problems installing a wireless internet conection on my hp nx 6125, does anyone knows how to solve this problem??
[07:21] <gabriel> I've checked tutorials on the web but they didn't work
[07:23] <nagyv> winxpert: you can use the same one
[07:24] <nagyv> winxpert: sorry, I wanted to reply to wind
[07:33] <juan> Is there any way to export the mail in Evolution or Thunderbird in something like the PST's of Outlook?
[07:35] <nnn0> hm i'm having trouble getting vsftpd to work, anyone done this ?
[07:36] <Hawkwind> nnn0: Curious...why are you using vsftpd instead of proftpd ?
[07:36] <nnn0> hm why would i do that ?
[07:36] <MitchM> its easier.
[07:36] <Hawkwind> It's easier, and more popular.
[07:36] <nnn0> i don't want easy, i want secure :)
[07:37] <nnn0> hm
[07:37] <Hawkwind> It happens to be very secure
[07:37] <yml> hello
[07:37] <nnn0> k
[07:37] <MitchM> its only as secure as _you_ make it
[07:37] <nnn0> maybe i should give it a go, but i'm just so used to vsftpd :)
[07:37] <MitchM> ftp is ftp
[07:37] <aliasfred> q. is there a way to redirect the output of a program in the input of anot\her ? ala jack ?
[07:37] <nnn0> ehehe
[07:38] <yml> I would like to start a bash file each time I am loging in. This bash file define the xmodmap configuration.
[07:38] <aliasfred> yml, in .bashrc or /etc/profile
[07:38] <yml> Does someone could tell me what is the ubuntu way of doing this.
[07:39] <dooglus> yml: what do you mean by "logging in"?
[07:39] <fritsch> dooglus: i think when logging into kde session
[07:39] <yml> dooglus> I mean each time I am do a "login"
[07:40] <fritsch> yml: there is a difference, text-login, graphical login
[07:40] <fritsch> yml: but if you want to load "xmodmap" i think it is X
[07:40] <yml> aliasfred>so far there is no .bashrc so I have created a .xmodmaprc
[07:41] <dooglus> yml: you run the "login" command?  or you use kdm?  or gdm?  or what?
[07:41] <fritsch> yml: you could just place this script into ~/.kde/Autostart/
[07:41] <yml> fritsch> yes it is x "login"
[07:41] <dooglus> if you're talking about logging in using the graphical kdm login screen, then .bashrc won't help you, 'cos bash isn't involved in the process
[07:41] <yml> fritsch> this is what I was loking for
[07:42] <yml> ~/.kde/Autostart/
[07:42] <fritsch> yml: mmh, this is only for your user ... look, that the script is executable (chmod +x)
[07:42] <Freddy2> and you can also create ~/.kde/shutdown/ if you want to
[07:42] <yml> fritsch> it is already
[07:43] <yml> very interesting
[07:43] <fritsch> yml: it is working?
[07:43] <roberto> Do you guys no what happend in 1997 between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates when MS invested 150 million in apple? I do Mac OSx will be apple to run xp apps without running xp by implementing a windows api layer in OSX 10.5
[07:43] <yml> btw what is katapult?
[07:43] <roberto> running xp apps w/o getting infected :o
[07:43] <fritsch> yml: Press ALT SPACE
[07:44] <yml> nice picture
[07:44] <roberto> yml i lub u :0
[07:44] <yml> is there something usefull?
[07:44] <fritsch> yml: now press a command like k3b or so
[07:44] <Freddy2> roberto: m$ owns near 40% of apple.. apple is not a far different company
[07:44] <fritsch> yml: now type i mean
[07:44] <roberto> Freddy2 but if the rumors are true i am getting a mac
[07:45] <fritsch> yml: it` s a quick starter for applications a katapult ;-)
[07:45] <joscha> does anybody know of amarok 1.4.2b1 debs for kubuntu?
[07:45] <roberto> running xp apps on mac w/o xp
[07:45] <Freddy2> it's your choice..
[07:45] <yml> fritsch> I do not understand what do you mean by press a command
[07:45] <roberto> is great
[07:45] <roberto> ;o
[07:45] <roberto> =p
[07:45] <fritsch> yml: press alt space
[07:45] <fritsch> yml: after that type: k3b
[07:45] <fritsch> yml: press enter
[07:45] <roberto> best of both worlds
[07:45] <fritsch> yml: now clear?
[07:45] <roberto> and open source can also run on it
[07:46] <Freddy2> why i would need xp apps, having linux apps? for those certain unable at linux you can try crossover, so.. why mac? i don't need it at all
[07:46] <fritsch> roberto: it`s so cool, that you could create an own channel on irc for it?
[07:46] <Freddy2> xD
[07:46] <fritsch> :-)
[07:46] <roberto> http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/
[07:47] <roberto> :P
[07:47] <yml> fritsch> yes very nice
[07:48] <roberto> fritsch,  i lub u2 btw :0
[07:50] <fritsch> roberto: thx
[07:51] <roberto> Does anybody use crossover to run office on linux?
[07:51] <roberto> from codeweavers?
[07:51] <yml> fritsch> Autostart is a folder so I should drop my script in it, isnt it?
[07:51] <fritsch> roberto: www.openoffice.org
[07:51] <fritsch> yml: yes
[07:52] <roberto> fritsch,
[07:52] <roberto> office is the standard
[07:52] <roberto> and better than openoffice
[07:53] <fritsch> roberto: better is no relation like ">" in math
[07:53] <fritsch> roberto: so at least you have to do "structural induction"
[07:53] <ballchalk> hello
[07:53] <roberto> more functionality and compatibility with existing fileformats
[07:53] <MitchM> hah.
[07:53] <roberto> thus more efficient
[07:53] <MitchM> openoffice > m$ office :-)
[07:53] <Freddy2> hoho
[07:53] <Toti85> die im #ubuntu.de laestern ueber kde T_T
[07:53] <intelikey> ooh  poo    what was that problem in /dev again when k3b cant find any scsi purner ?
[07:53] <ballchalk> i'm using windows 2003 and i thot it was superior to linux until i spent 5 hours doing my laptop
[07:54] <fritsch> roberto: compatibility *G* - the whole world has to be compatible to them ...
[07:54] <roberto> damn you open source zea lots :'(
[07:54] <roberto> you made me cry :'(
[07:54] <intelikey> what is the scsi control devices ?
[07:54] <fritsch> stop talking to him ;-) he just wants this
[07:54] <Freddy2> fritsch: sure
[07:54] <MitchM> affirm.
[07:54] <ballchalk> how often does ubuntu updates new versions?
[07:54] <roberto> True or False: open source is for people that can't afford a macintosh?
[07:54] <fritsch> Freddy2: MitchM: We could play a game
[07:54] <roberto> :D
[07:54] <MitchM> sounds good.
[07:55] <intelikey> ballchalk 6 month
[07:55] <MitchM> what did you have in mind?
[07:55] <fritsch> What would you buy, if you had 150 euro + 220 euro (which you did not pay to M$ OS and Office)?
[07:55] <fritsch> no sorry, we leave him alone, this would be better
[07:55] <intelikey> roberto true or false you are just here to troll ?
[07:55] <Freddy2> TRUE! xD
[07:55] <ballchalk> intelikey i'm downloading kubuntu 6.06 and would it be easy to upgrade like recompiling kernel? htis is something i know nothing about
[07:56] <roberto> inc|freaky, FALSE
[07:56] <MitchM> ballchalk: It is easy to upgrade from one to the other.
[07:56] <roberto> intelikey, FALSE*
[07:56] <intelikey> ballchalk no recompiling at all.   just two commands to upgrade.
[07:56] <inc|freaky> roberto: oO
[07:56] <ballchalk> for example if i am using 6.06 and 6.08 comes out....is there a great difference? how easy will i be able to patch to 6.08?
[07:56] <fritsch> roberto: i think the "*" point to TRUE
[07:56] <ballchalk> wow really
[07:57] <aliasfred> open source is for people who cant stand the ridiculness of apple marketing :)
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> aliasfred, and who wont pay for a unix system
[07:57] <intelikey> ballchalk yes.  you update your sources.list and do a  apt-get dist-upgrade    badabing.
[07:57] <ballchalk> i was trying to decide if freebsd was good but then their platform doesnt do kernel upgradabiilty
[07:57] <ballchalk> o
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> what is db2 certification?
[07:58] <serzholino> ballchalk: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, that's all
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> ballchalk, or do a sudo "dist-update -d"
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> or some command like that
[07:58] <serzholino> to upgrade to next release
[07:58] <ballchalk> also ibm has HCL and redhat detects all the devices in my thinkpad laptop.....so......does that mean ubuntu will work the same way detecting my devices redhat will detect also?
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:58] <serzholino> yep, there are many apt frontend
[07:58] <fritsch> ballchalk: which IBM do you own?
[07:59] <ballchalk> T43
[07:59] <fritsch> ballchalk: with radeon chipset?
[07:59] <ballchalk> radeon video intel 915 chipset
[07:59] <ballchalk> radeon v3200
[07:59] <fritsch> ballchalk: pretty much should really run out of the box
[07:59] <ballchalk> it was the tops when i got it
[07:59] <ballchalk> wow
[07:59] <fritsch> ballchalk: wireless, suspend, etc.
[07:59] <ballchalk> its also got a biometric fingerprint reader
[08:00] <ballchalk> cool
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: mmmh this is a "more" problem
[08:00] <ballchalk> oh
[08:00] <ballchalk> ibm has it
[08:00] <ballchalk> i'll look for it but not important
[08:00] <ballchalk> so ok
[08:00] <ballchalk> ACPI is implemented?
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: of course
[08:00] <ballchalk> i was using Mac os x on my thinkpad and it ran hot
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: www.thinkwiki.org
[08:00] <ballchalk> not powermanagement
[08:00] <texas319_> test
[08:00] <ballchalk> niiice
[08:00] <fritsch> ballchalk: look there, about you modell
[08:00] <texas319_> hey all
[08:01] <ballchalk> eya
[08:01] <ballchalk> i thikn i already did
[08:01] <ballchalk> ima look again
[08:01] <MitchM> hello texas319_
[08:01] <texas319_> can I add kubuntu to a windows based domain
[08:01] <texas319_> as a client
[08:01] <ballchalk> yo texas where u from?
[08:01] <MitchM> for what purpose?
[08:01] <ballchalk> i don't mean texas
[08:01] <texas319_> Houston
[08:01] <ballchalk> wow
[08:01] <ballchalk> i'm from alief
[08:01] <texas319_> Lol
[08:01] <texas319_> koo
[08:01] <ballchalk> yea
[08:02] <ballchalk> i moved to jersey tho 6 mos
[08:02] <texas319_> i am at work up here in jersey Village now
[08:02] <ballchalk> family still there in houston
[08:02] <texas319_> koo
[08:02] <ballchalk> WTF
[08:02] <ballchalk> and you're in NJ?
[08:02] <ballchalk> i'm in NJ
[08:02] <texas319_> naww
[08:02] <ballchalk> oh
[08:02] <texas319_> Jersey Village up in north houston... 290 and beltway area
[08:03] <ballchalk> yeap houston traffic worsening?
[08:03] <ballchalk> by the year
[08:04] <texas319_> yea
[08:04] <texas319_> i live in clear lake
[08:04] <texas319_> so i see the brunt of it
[08:04] <Polarbeer> has anyone here installed a HP printer? i can't get mine to work.
[08:04] <ballchalk> oh ok
[08:05] <texas319_> now i am back to ubuntu
[08:05] <texas319_> lol
[08:05] <ballchalk> yea ur way out hehe
[08:05] <ballchalk> back?
[08:05] <ballchalk> what else'dju use
[08:05] <fritsch> Polarbeer: me
[08:05] <ballchalk> i installed went from mac os x on my thinkpad to windows2003 now looking at kubuntu
[08:05] <Polarbeer> great
[08:06] <fritsch> Polarbeer: KDE-Icon-Settings-Printer
[08:06] <ballchalk> i went into #freebsd and they flamed me man
[08:06] <fritsch> Polarbeer: get Systemadmin
[08:06] <fritsch> Polarbeer: add your printer
[08:06] <Polarbeer> i have done everything according to instructions, but it still doesnt work
[08:06] <fritsch> Polarbeer: GDI Printer?
[08:07] <Polarbeer> GDI? whats that?
[08:07] <fritsch> Polarbeer: you chose the correct port? LPT/USB?
[08:07] <fritsch> Polarbeer: a windows printer
[08:07] <Polarbeer> yes
[08:07] <Polarbeer> Photosmart 1315
[08:07] <fritsch> Polarbeer: mmh, sorry no "diagnostic" idea
[08:07] <fritsch> Polarbeer: cannot see the logfiles
[08:08] <Polarbeer> thanks anyway
[08:08] <ballchalk> oh great so thinkwiki doesn't just talk about redhat but covers all distros as a whole?
[08:09] <ballchalk> so anything that works in redhat will work in kubuntu then ?
[08:09] <fritsch> ballchalk: yes
[08:09] <ballchalk> whoa
[08:09] <ballchalk> ok cool kubuntu i tis
[08:10] <fritsch> ballchalk: install, update
[08:10] <ballchalk> yea also i don't wanna stay handicapped to the same kernel in *bsd not to mention the heated community
[08:10] <ballchalk> what the heck are they all pissed off about all the time anyway
[08:10] <fritsch> ballchalk: you aren` t
[08:10] <fritsch> ballchalk: you can always build your own
[08:10] <pete_> I'm new to ubuntu but I've been using linux for years.  Why in god's name do you rely so heavily on sudo?
[08:10] <fritsch> ballchalk: but, if everything is working?
[08:10] <fritsch> ballchalk: no problem, or?
[08:11] <MitchM> pete_ : Its just for the use of "newer" users
[08:11] <fritsch> !sudo > pete_
[08:11] <fritsch> !sudo
[08:11] <nagyv> Roman: I just learned that Skype 1.3 beta is out for Linux. It finally supports ALSA, so with a simple setup it will work out of the box. Download: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html , toread for existing bugs: http://juljas.net/linux/skype/
[08:11] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:11] <ballchalk> so what are the main differences or philosphies of each linux distro anyway?
[08:11] <Roman> oooooooo nice
[08:12] <pete_> I know what it does, I just am not certain its easier for new users.  I'm not new, so I'm biased, but I don't like it.
[08:12] <MitchM> pepe_ I remove sudo from my ubuntu install and just login as root when I need to do something that requires such access
[08:12] <Freddy2> pete_: i also don't like it.. su is greater imho, but..
[08:12] <pete_> since everyone has sudo rights, does that mean that its easier to compromise a ubuntu machine since if you can get user rights, you win?
[08:13] <pete_> or is that not true somehow?
[08:13] <MitchM> not everyone should have sudo rights.
[08:13] <Freddy2> everyone?
[08:13] <MitchM> only the _main_ non-root user should have sudo rights
[08:13] <pete_> well, I only made one user account
[08:13] <Freddy2> by default only the first created account..
[08:13] <pete_> so the first user account is a quasi-administrator
[08:13] <Freddy2> certainly
[08:13] <georg> hi
[08:13] <pete_> and everyone else has no sudo rights
[08:13] <MitchM> other users get nasty "error" messages when they try to use sudo
[08:13] <nagyv> I just tried to install Skype 1.3 beta, but it requires a package called Desktop. What is this for?
[08:13] <texas319_> has anyone added kubuntu to a windows domain before
[08:13] <texas319_> is this even possible
[08:14] <MitchM> texas319_ why would you want to do so?
[08:14] <MitchM> and what does google say on the matter?
[08:14] <Freddy2> MitchM: but can you return to a classic root based system?
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> not on ubuntu
[08:14] <MitchM> sure.
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> unless you want to break the box
[08:14] <MitchM> Just remove sudo from the system
[08:14] <MitchM> ^.^
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> from what i understand
[08:14] <fritsch> MitchM: no
[08:15] <texas319_> because my companies is windows based and i need to access some stuf on the domain
[08:15] <Freddy2> Admiral_Chicago: i this it's possible, by setting the password for root.. isn't it?
[08:15] <fritsch> MitchM: you can set a root pwd for login, etc.
[08:15] <fritsch> MitchM: but kde apps are compiled for sudo support
[08:15] <pete_> sudo passwd
[08:15] <fritsch> pete_: yes of course ... but k3b for example asks for the user password
[08:15] <yml> me again still fighting with my key binding pb for my laptop
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Freddy2, from what I understand, Ubuntu is set up not to require a root account
[08:15] <fritsch> pete_: on debian it wants the root login
[08:15] <pete_> fritsch: that certainly changes things
[08:16] <MitchM> CLI > GUI
[08:16] <pete_> what happens if you aren't the sudo user and are trying to use k3b?
[08:16] <Freddy2> Admiral_Chicago: for several admin tasks su is better than sudo.. you don't have to keep the password valid for a certain period of time like sudo does (15 min i think)
[08:16] <fritsch> pete_: thats bad
[08:16] <yml> Now I have store my xmodmap in ~/kde/Autostart but this script reference XF86mail for example
[08:17] <Freddy2> pete_: i suppose you can try kdesu
[08:17] <pete_> ah
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> from my own experience, I have yet to find anything that requires me to be su, i have done everythiing sudo
[08:17] <yml> where the relation between XF86mail and thunderbird need to be done
[08:17] <fritsch> yml: you have to store the script there, not the modmap
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i guess if you want to do kdesu kate you can
[08:17] <fritsch> yml: try xkbsetup
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i just do a sudo nano...
[08:17] <fritsch> yml: h xbindkeys
[08:18] <pete_> I'm just dissapointed, everyone talks about ubuntu like it's the best thing since sliced bread.  But for experienced users, its really not that great.
[08:18] <MitchM> vim > nano
[08:18] <Kiongku> hey guys.. kpersonalizer keeps starting each time i boot up my system.. how to stop it?
[08:18] <MitchM> but ubuntu _is_ great
[08:18] <nnn0> aarg what's up with inetd on kubuntu
[08:18] <MitchM> its a "pretty debian"
[08:18] <MitchM> and if you think about all the new users to Linux
[08:19] <pete_> MitchM: this is true, but I prefer the debian way to the ubuntu way, most of the time
[08:19] <MitchM> it is doing great hings
[08:19] <Freddy2> pete_: maybe you should try gentoo, and compile every program you must install
[08:19] <MitchM> name one thing that you like about Debian that ubuntu does wrong?
[08:19] <pete_> Freddy2: my HD got hosed, which had gentoo on it. I installed ubuntu since I want have time to recompile gentoo until next week
[08:19] <yml> fritsch>none of these files exist
[08:20] <Kiongku> !kpersonalizer
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpersonalizer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Kiongku> !info kpersonalizer
[08:20] <ubotu> kpersonalizer: installation personalizer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 474 kB, installed size 772 kB
[08:20] <pete_> So I'm the last person ubuntu is aiming for, I just thought I'de give it a try since it's all the rage today.
[08:20] <MitchM> pete_ name one thing that you like about Debian that ubuntu does wrong?
[08:20] <pete_> MitchM: sudo
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> pete_, you like it?
[08:20] <pete_> MitchM: but I understand that its for new users
[08:20] <MitchM> and is that all?
[08:20] <pete_> MitchM: there's not much different. I don't like the brown
[08:20] <MitchM> bah
[08:21] <MitchM> use Kubuntu
[08:21] <MitchM> kubuntu > ubuntu
[08:21] <pete_> MitchM: I am actually
[08:21] <Freddy2> well, some people use debian, others (k)ubuntu, others suse.. and i think most people use fedora.. simply try and compare
[08:21] <MitchM> ah.
[08:21] <MitchM> then change the theme =)
[08:21] <tsdgeos> most people use fedora?
[08:21] <tsdgeos> lol
[08:21] <tsdgeos> that's not the perception i have
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i used it at one time
[08:21] <tsdgeos> but yours may be
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> didn't like it
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> as much as i like kubuntu, its awesome
[08:22] <aliasfred> there is a distwatch about that
[08:22] <Freddy2> well, i use opensuse, and currently i'm giving a try to kubuntu.. but i've seen many people trying fedora
[08:22] <nagyv> I am trying to set up a local repository using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepositoriesTrivial, but I don't know how to set up pbuilder. Could someone help me?
[08:22] <aliasfred> ubuntu being far ahead, suse behind and the rest being negligible
[08:22] <fritsch> Freddy2: first thing i did with opensuse, i installed smart
[08:22] <pete_> Fedora is my preferred binary distro.  Ubuntu isn't far behind.  The duo thing and some little annoyances are all that separates them
[08:22] <pete_> s/duo/su
[08:22] <fritsch> Freddy2: yast etc. is sooo damn slow
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Freddy2, i really like kubuntu, its pretty easy to use out of the box
[08:23] <pete_> Like why doesn't su forward you X environment variables
[08:23] <pete_> you can's su ad them open emacs in a window for example
[08:23] <Freddy2> fritsch: i like a simple distro, but i love configure & cia xD
[08:23] <pete_> I'm really sorry, I can't type today
[08:23] <fritsch> pete_: do with your X logged in user: xhost + <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:23] <fritsch> pete_: now it works ...
[08:24] <joscha> xhost +localhost @ pete
[08:24] <pete_> thank you
[08:24] <roberto> Can you get a windows virus in wine?
[08:24] <joscha> and then su & emacs
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> roberto, no
[08:24] <Freddy2> roberto: still here?
[08:24] <fritsch> roberto: you not :-)
[08:24] <roberto> lol
[08:24] <roberto> i love you guys :P
[08:24] <joscha> roberto: sure, if the apis the virus uses is implentet in wine...
[08:24] <roberto> lol
[08:25] <fritsch> joscha: could be easier, just copy the content of an infected disk into it - done :-) virus is in
[08:25] <ballchalk> how do i install kubuntu into 1 partition?
[08:25] <Freddy2> no swap??
[08:25] <roberto> is it possible to have a bootcamp virus that can go from os to os or have a virus that runs on machine level?
[08:25] <ballchalk> as in having /var /home /etc all in the same disk
[08:25] <joscha> mmmmh the virus could delete all your mp3s in your homedirectory...
[08:25] <ballchalk> swap too
[08:26] <ballchalk> like mac os x
[08:26] <roberto> lol
[08:26] <ballchalk> roberto no
[08:26] <Freddy2> so you need 2 at least.. isnt it?
[08:26] <aliasfred> http://distrowatch.com/ <- look at 'page hit ranking' it is a sort of the OS run by the people visiting their site... a way to evaluate how widely used is each distro. among their visitors
[08:26] <ballchalk> hahah
[08:26] <ballchalk> for swap im not sure if the mac
[08:26] <ballchalk> well
[08:26] <joscha> roberto: sure... a virus could start directly after booting the bios and could start the host-OS inside an VM
[08:26] <ballchalk> hmmm i dont think so cuz it can span as many swp dumps
[08:26] <pete_> aliasfred: and ubuntu wind by a landslide
[08:26] <roberto> cool joscha
[08:26] <joscha> but this would be a pretty complex-virus
[08:27] <roberto> yeah
[08:27] <roberto> lets make it :P
[08:27] <ballchalk> machine level? never heard of it
[08:27] <ballchalk> heh
[08:27] <fritsch> roberto: for "let` s" <- us, you have also to work?
[08:28] <roberto> what shall we call it the open source virus :p
[08:28] <Freddy2> ballchalk: well, it could be seen as a way to have a dynamic swap space.. that's all i suppose
[08:28] <ballchalk> yea
[08:28] <ballchalk> so uh
[08:28] <roberto> lets make an open source virus under gnu license :p
[08:28] <roberto> let everybody help
[08:28] <Freddy2> but you need free space for it.. you can use any common file for this (inside a partition)
[08:28] <ballchalk> so what did the torvalds say about the new gpl?
[08:28] <ballchalk> was it a big thing?
[08:29] <fritsch> roberto: i would pay you 30000 $ for your thoughts while shaving ...
[08:29] <proog> hey, i am running kubuntu on my laptop. its max screen resolution is 1280x800, but kubutu will only allow me to go up to 1024x768, which is also good, but i would really like to use the max res. what can i do?
[08:29] <proog> *kubuntu
[08:29] <fritsch> proog: intel chipset?
[08:29] <proog> yes
[08:29] <fritsch> proog: okay, can be tricky
[08:30] <proog> but how?
[08:30] <fritsch> proog: look at 915resolution tool
[08:30] <Polarbeer> what about DC? anyone here use it?
[08:30] <joscha> domain controller?
[08:30] <Freddy2> XDD
[08:30] <fritsch> Polarbeer: me again, you mean dc++?
[08:30] <ballchalk> only if fritsch were to be a freebsd user then all would be peaceful
[08:30] <Polarbeer> yes
[08:30] <fritsch> Polarbeer: try valknut
[08:30] <Polarbeer> ive downloaded it through Adept, but it dnt seem to work
[08:31] <Polarbeer> not valknut though
[08:31] <Polarbeer> is that better?
[08:31] <fritsch> proog: download valknut
[08:31] <fritsch> proog: sorry
[08:31] <proog> ok
[08:31] <Freddy2> valknut seems to have problems with certain options enabled at windows DC servers, but.. i think it's the best choice
[08:31] <ccc_> Polarbeer: linuxdc++ is great
[08:32] <ccc_> it's gtk+ though
[08:32] <fritsch> proog: sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[08:32] <ccc_> fat superior to valknut which hasn't been updated for more than a year
[08:32] <proog> so... not valknut?
[08:32] <ccc_> *far
[08:32] <fritsch> proog: after that reboot?
[08:33] <Freddy2> ccc_: hmm i've heard about some recent changes in valknut.. maybe at cvs
[08:33] <proog> so i apt-get 915resolution and reboot?
[08:33] <derekS> is anyone else here having a problem with lm-sensors? http://pastebin.ca/136483   <---- that is my error, please help :)
[08:33] <fritsch> proog: please try, yes
[08:33] <Kiongku> ppl. How write a script for modprobe to Autostart?
[08:33] <ccc_> Freddy2: ok. the GUI gives me a headache though. it's a real mess.
[08:33] <fritsch> proog: this tool tries to find your resolution automatically
[08:34] <nnn0> why can't i find inet.d ?
[08:34] <fritsch> Freddy2: no real late changes
[08:34] <proog> fritsch: couldntfind package 915resolution
[08:34] <nnn0> i mean inetd
[08:34] <Freddy2> ccc_: certainly its gui is a bit strange
[08:34] <fritsch> proog: no?
[08:34] <fritsch> proog:
[08:34] <fritsch> !915resolution
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <fritsch> its in universe
[08:35] <proog> ok
[08:35] <fritsch> but if you have an intel 855 chip
[08:35] <fritsch> proog: you have to use 855resolution
[08:35] <Freddy2> ccc_: is it a unix port of windows dc++?
[08:35] <fritsch> proog: look here: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[08:36] <Freddy2> or is simply copying its gui?
[08:36] <fritsch> Freddy2: ldcpp.berlios.de <- this am i using
[08:36] <yml> I am sorry to insist but I search on all the computer for "XF86mail" and I found a single file where this string is: inet in X11/xkb/symbols
[08:36] <ccc_> Freddy2: yes, exactly. there's also a new project called dc-qt which looks promising for us kde users, but it's still (very) alpha.
[08:36] <fritsch> Freddy2: sorry http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de
[08:36] <Freddy2> http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index
[08:36] <proog> fritsch: i think it is an Intel 855GME + ICH4
[08:36] <ccc_> Freddy2: on linuxdc++, there's a great guide at ubuntuforums on installing it (from cvs)
[08:36] <fritsch> proog: okay wait
[08:37] <ballchalk> burning kubuntu to disc woohoo
[08:37] <nnn0> can someone please help me with inetd ?
[08:37] <waspius> i installed some programs with wine but i had a problem and i want to uninstall them,...i clicked on uninstall but they dont uninstall although the process goes through what can i do?
[08:37] <yml> this file is not where I can do the mapping between XF86mail and thunderbird
[08:37] <Polarbeer> valknut doesnt seem to work either
[08:37] <Polarbeer> nothing happens when i click "connect"
[08:37] <fritsch> proog: you can take the howto, but use 855resolution
[08:37] <bigbill52a> does anyone have a kdm default kdmrc?
[08:37] <proog> ok
[08:37] <Freddy2> well, i've tried to and it really works
[08:37] <ccc_> Freddy2, Polarbeer: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984
[08:38] <Polarbeer> ty
[08:38] <z421> hy
[08:38] <Freddy2> ccc_: thx, i'm downloading sources from cvs
[08:39] <bigbill52a> i would like to use a debian default kdmrc...so i can have more control over my log in screen
[08:39] <derekS> so no one knows anything about my lm-sensors issue?
[08:39] <fritsch> proog: have to leave
[08:39] <proog> ok
[08:39] <proog> bye, fritsch
[08:40] <z421> which sources do i need to install the sun jre?
[08:41] <z421> in the debian sid, its in the non-free tree, but where is it in ubuntu?
[08:41] <Hawkwind> !java > z421
[08:42] <z421> Hawkwind: thanx
[08:42] <nnn0> noone here knows nothing about inetd - i find that hard to believe
[08:43] <aliasfred> yeah me too
[08:43] <aliasfred> maybe some secrets stuff is happening
[08:43] <nnn0> :)
[08:44] <Swatgoss> hi all, i'm french, some1 experienced connection trouble under Kubuntu ?
[08:44] <Swatgoss> long loading times under browsers
[08:45] <Swatgoss> and FTP transfer blocking
[08:45] <aliasfred> what is your isp
[08:45] <Freddy2> modem? router?
[08:45] <Swatgoss> 1 modem
[08:45] <Swatgoss> 2 others Pc on router, under win XP
[08:45] <Swatgoss> and works fine
[08:45] <aliasfred> and is the web page downloading ultimatly
[08:45] <aliasfred> what is your isp
[08:45] <Swatgoss> after a looooong time
[08:45] <aliasfred> ok ipv6
[08:45] <Swatgoss> Free (in france)
[08:46] <Freddy2> np with linux compatibility and your modem?
[08:46] <aliasfred> you have to disable ipv6
[08:46] <Swatgoss> ipv6 on my kubuntu ?
[08:46] <aliasfred> the long time is the resolution of dns in ipv6
[08:46] <aliasfred> it timesout
[08:46] <aliasfred> yep
[08:46] <ballchalk> brb
[08:46] <Swatgoss> and how :/
[08:46] <aliasfred> dont remember :) but very simple :)
[08:46] <MitchM> jfgi
[08:47] <Swatgoss> sudo ipv6 -> ipv4 :p
[08:47] <Freddy2> hmm something about /etc/modules.conf was related to this
[08:47] <Swatgoss> but don t XP use ipv6 too ?
[08:47] <aliasfred> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html <- Swatgoss
[08:48] <Swatgoss> ty, will look at this
[08:48] <MitchM> XP does not use ipv6
[08:48] <MitchM> not by default at least
[08:48] <MitchM> you can install it optionally
[08:48] <Swatgoss> ok, i saw it some times ago in updates or something like this
[08:48] <MitchM> =)
[08:48] <Polarbeer> ccc_: it doesnt work
[08:49] <rafa> HI all, would like to know why I can't install ssh server
[08:49] <rafa> I only have access to openssh-client
[08:49] <ccc_> Polarbeer: at what point doesn't it work?
[08:49] <z421> does anyone know if it's possible to regulate more channels with the kmix at the same time? like in the gnome mixer, where you can set which channels are regulated?
[08:49] <MitchM> sudo apt-get install ssh?
[08:49] <rafa> all the repositoires are up
[08:49] <rafa> MitchM: it won't work
[08:49] <Freddy2> haha, that's exactly what has happened to me this morning xD
[08:49] <MitchM> what error do you get?
[08:49] <Freddy2> rafa: have you changed your source.list and updated apt?
[08:50] <Polarbeer> when i hit the cvs-d....
[08:50] <rafa> it sas that the package isn't available, but some other package references it
[08:50] <rafa> Freddy2: yes
[08:50] <MitchM> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <MitchM> apt-get update
[08:50] <rafa> MitchM: ssh just won't work... instead I have openssh-client
[08:50] <MitchM> sudo apt-get update*
[08:50] <rafa> but no server
[08:50] <Polarbeer> it says "bad cvsroot"
[08:51] <Freddy2> rafa: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:51] <MitchM> I understand ;-)
[08:51] <MitchM> try; sudo apt-get update
[08:51] <MitchM> then sudo apt-get install ssh and tell me what it says
[08:51] <Swatgoss> (oh, does the ping www.xxxxxxx.com in Konsole work ?)
[08:51] <MitchM> swatgoss it should.
[08:51] <Freddy2> Swatgoss: why not?
[08:52] <Swatgoss> because its the same comand as CMD.exe
[08:52] <rafa> MitchM: same thing
[08:52] <Freddy2> what?
[08:52] <MitchM> it says "package isnt available"
[08:52] <rafa> MitchM: I've changed the sources.list file for what that page says
[08:52] <Polarbeer> ccc_: when i type cvs-d:pserver.anonymous... it says "bad CVSROOT"
[08:52] <Swatgoss> some commands in Konsole aren't the same as in cmd.exe
[08:52] <Freddy2> and why should be the same?
[08:53] <rafa> MitchM: great, now it works! really don't know what was missing on my sources.list
[08:53] <rafa> thanks!!
[08:53] <rafa> be right back, thanks!
[08:53] <MitchM> rafa: yup :-) anytime
[08:53] <nnn0> so not one of you guys use inetd ? :)
[08:53] <MitchM> i use inetd 24/7
[08:53] <Swatgoss> Freddy2: i don't know/care :p just asking if it work, to verify the connection is up
[08:53] <Freddy2> which ping
[08:53] <nnn0> well do you use inetutils-inetd or netkit-inetd ?
[08:54] <MitchM> inetutils
[08:54] <ccc_> Polarbeer: works for me. check your typing
[08:54] <aliasfred> Swatgoss: yep "ping your.hostname.goes.here" do work
[08:54] <ccc_> Polarbeer: copy and paste
[08:55] <Polarbeer> how do i paste into konsole?
[08:55] <Freddy2> shif + insert
[08:55] <aliasfred> Swatgoss: "man ping" will give you some documentation about ping. or "ping -h" or "ping --help"
[08:55] <Freddy2> shift + insert
[08:55] <ccc_> Polarbeer: shift-insert
[08:55] <nnn0> k thx
[08:55] <Polarbeer> ok
[08:55] <Polarbeer> thx
[08:55] <Swatgoss> raaaaa can't translate my sentence in english ...
[08:56] <Swatgoss> when a page fail in browser, i verify server with "ping www.server.com"
[08:56] <Swatgoss> under Win
[08:56] <anaski> ALC850_Linux.zip....how do i install these drivers
[08:56] <MitchM> nn0: yup
[08:56] <MitchM> nnn0: yup
[08:56] <aliasfred> Swatgoss: same on linux. do "ping google.com" to check
[08:56] <MitchM> and then ctrl + c to stop the ping swatgoss
[08:57] <Polarbeer> thanks ccc_, now it worked. obviously misspelled something...
[08:57] <Swatgoss> useful to know MitchM
[08:57] <MitchM> swatgoss affirmative :-)
[08:57] <anaski> or should i go to ubuntu channel but where is that?
[08:58] <anaski> !untar
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about untar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <MitchM> ctrl + c is an all-round "end" command
[08:58] <MitchM> untar?
[08:58] <MitchM> tar -xf <filename>
[08:58] <Swatgoss> unrar
[08:58] <anaski> could you tell me some instructions how to untar and install an untarred file
[08:58] <MitchM> to extract
[08:59] <Swatgoss> oh ...
[08:59] <MitchM> tar -xf <filename>
[08:59] <anaski> or something
[08:59] <MitchM> ./configure in the directory
[08:59] <Freddy2> ccc_: linuxdc++ looks great.. i'll try it :D thx
[08:59] <MitchM> or make install
[08:59] <MitchM> then install\
[08:59] <jujimufu> anaski: to extract a tar file, you must say if it's a tar.gz or tar.bz2 . If it's tar.gz, do "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz". If it's tar.bz2, do "tar -xjf filename.tar.bz2"
[08:59] <anaski> its zip
[09:00] <ccc_> Freddy2: glad to inform you ;)
[09:00] <MitchM> unzip <filename>
[09:01] <anaski> okay
[09:01] <anaski> then how do i install
[09:01] <anaski> install/ filename?
[09:01] <MitchM> try just install
[09:01] <anaski> dont know
[09:01] <MitchM> or make install
[09:02] <MitchM> or ./configure
[09:02] <anaski> how do i make install
[09:02] <MitchM> just type "make install" in the directory
[09:02] <jujimufu> anaski: do ./configure
[09:02] <MitchM> if your doing this from source
[09:02] <anaski> from the console
[09:02] <jujimufu> anaski: if it finishes without errors, do "make" and if that finishes also without errors, do "sudo make install"
[09:03] <jujimufu> anaski: yeah, from the console. Have you untarred the file?
[09:03] <anaski> ive unzipped it now
[09:03] <anaski> it was a zip file
[09:03] <MitchM> cd <directory>
[09:03] <MitchM> ./configure
[09:03] <jujimufu> anaski: ok, do "cd" and then type the name of the directory that just appeared. It's where you extracted it.
[09:03] <MitchM> make
[09:06] <Swatgoss> is there any op or moderators on this chan ?
[09:06] <anaski> now in the directory is a bz2 file
[09:06] <epitaf-laptop> i'm on an AMD Athlon XP-A, 1100 MHz. Should I get the i386 or the AMD64 install?
[09:06] <Swatgoss> K lol
[09:06] <Swatgoss> K7
[09:06] <liku> Evening.
[09:07] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptop try to find a K7 version
[09:07] <Swatgoss> and in any case use a AMD64, u don't have a A64
[09:07] <bkudria> i am tryng to install kdelibs4c2a, but it complains "kdelibs4c2a: Depends: liblua50 (>= 5.0.2-5ubuntu1) but 5.0.2-5 is to be installed"...how do i fix this?
[09:07] <anaski> alc-082604.tar.bz2????
[09:08] <anaski> what do i do with this
[09:08] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptop (i mean NEVER use a AMD64 version ...)
[09:08] <anaski> untar it somehow? and install..that  came from the zipfile
[09:08] <Hawkwind> anaski: Untar it
[09:08] <epitaf-laptop> Swatgoss, are you saying that I should NOT use a AMD64? Your sentence was a little hard to understand :)
[09:09] <epitaf-laptop> As far as k7 goes, i cant find a k7 version
[09:09] <Hawkwind> anaski: tar xjvf alc-082604.tar.bz
[09:09] <Hawkwind> anaski: tar xjvf alc-082604.tar.bz2
[09:09] <ccc_> epitaf-laptop: you can install the k7-kernel when the system is installed... so go with the i386 install
[09:09] <bkudria> i am tryng to install kdelibs4c2a, but it complains "kdelibs4c2a: Depends: liblua50 (>= 5.0.2-5ubuntu1) but 5.0.2-5 is to be installed"...how do i fix this?
[09:09] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptop i know, i'm not english ... use a K7 version, or at least i386 would work, i tested 386 on my Barton
[09:09] <bele> epitaf-laptop: you should use i386 version
[09:09] <anaski> thanks
[09:09] <epitaf-laptop> ok, thanks
[09:09] <anaski> bye
[09:10] <liku> Quick question: is there somewhere a guide describing *whole* process, how to compile a new kernel on (k/x)buntu?
[09:11] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptop you use CD to install ubuntu ? or do you update your existing kernel ?
[09:11] <Hawkwind> liku: I have one
[09:11] <ccc_> Polarbeer: you got it working yet?
[09:11] <Hawkwind> liku: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.0
[09:11] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptop if u install from a CD select a 386 one, and after, update it to K7
[09:11] <Hawkwind> liku: That's the one on my forums.  Works very well as I'm currently running <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:11] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia <IP_ADDRESS> #1 SMP Wed Aug 9 11:20:13 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:12] <fdoving> liku: this maybe? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:12] <liku> Hawkwind: Does it work with ubuntu? I used to compile my own kernels, but with ubuntu things are a bit different, bootsplash, initrd, etc.
[09:13] <liku> Hawkwind: I'll take a look.
[09:13] <epitaf-laptop> Swatgoss, i am using a cd
[09:13] <epitaf-laptop> ok i will update to k7 after the install
[09:13] <epitaf-laptop> i might come back and ask how to do :D
[09:13] <Hawkwind> liku: I see no reason why it wouldn't work.  It allows you to build what you want or don't want
[09:13] <Hawkwind> liku: It also can use your current kernel .config file which makes things a bit easier
[09:13] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptop youre (will be ?) welcome :p
[09:14] <Drenhead> I cannot get flash to work correctly in Firefox or Opera.  they run for about 2 seconds then freeze.
[09:14] <liku> Hawkwind: Perfect, that's what I was looking for :) - thanks.
[09:15] <epitaf-laptop> hehe thanks (in advance?) ;)
[09:15] <bkudria> i am tryng to install kdelibs4c2a, but it complains "kdelibs4c2a: Depends: liblua50 (>= 5.0.2-5ubuntu1) but 5.0.2-5 is to be installed"...how do i fix this?
[09:15] <Swatgoss> bkudria install liblua50 ?
[09:16] <epitaf-laptop> Swatgoss, I might add that it's Ubuntu I'm installing, but maybe that doesn't make a difference?
[09:16] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptop nope don't make much difference
[09:16] <epitaf-laptop> ok
[09:17] <bkudria> Swatgoss: i did...but it still complaisn
[09:17] <bkudria> complains*
[09:17] <fdoving> bkudria: 'sudo apt-get install liblua50=5.0.2-5ubuntu1'
[09:17] <Swatgoss> epitaf-laptopi think kernels are the same (is it wright ?)
[09:17] <ccc_> epitaf-laptop: except kubuntu is better ;)
[09:17] <ccc_> Swatgoss: yes that's correct. same repos
[09:17] <Swatgoss> bkudria like in windows, remove/reinstall
[09:17] <fdoving> bkudria: and remove unofficial repositories from /etc/apt/sources.list or kmenu -> system -> adept manager -> manage repositories.
[09:18] <bkudria> fdoving: i used the source-o-matic...i should undo that
[09:18] <bkudria> ?
[09:18] <bkudria> Swatgoss: ok, i'll try
[09:18] <fdoving> bkudria: maybe, can you put the output of 'apt-cache policy liblua50' on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com ?
[09:22] <Swatgoss> (network "stupid" question/confirmation: FTP transfers are affected by ipv6 slow down ?)
[09:22] <liku> Swatgoss: Yes, assuming that ftp goes through ipv6.
[09:22] <aliasfred> Swatgoss: only the connection establishement is affected.
[09:22] <Hawkwind> liku: Glad to hear it.  Let me know how it works out for ya
[09:22] <Swatgoss> oh, i had problems during transfers :p
[09:23] <Swatgoss> something strange
[09:23] <liku> Hawkwind: I will have to wait till tommarow :/, at the moment I don't have a decent Inet connection.
[09:25] <Hawkwind> liku: Ok.  You can always register on my forums and post a comment or let me know here as well
[09:25] <Hawkwind> Seveas: You around by chance ?
[09:25] <Seveas> Hawkwind, yes
[09:25] <Tokeiito> what lib has SDL.h file?
[09:25] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Got a minute for a pm concerning the bot ?
[09:25] <Seveas> Tokeiito, libsdl1.2-dev oslt
[09:25] <jeff_hann> libsdl
[09:26] <Tokeiito> Seveas: thanx
[09:26] <Seveas> Hawkwind, if it's about not being able to add/edit factoids: I know, otherwise: sure, pm is open
[09:26] <bkudria> fdoving: the kubuntu paste timed out, but here you go: http://pastebin.ca/136545
[09:26] <fdoving> bkudria: ok, looking..
[09:26] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Ah ok.  Wasn't sure if you got the message or not.  Hobbsee tried to add one for me this morning and the bot told her no :P
[09:27] <Kiongku> hey guys.. how can i setup this command "modprobe videodev" to auto load on startup?
[09:27] <Seveas> Hawkwind, i've been working on the bot but unfortunately it's in a semi-broken state for a few days already -- some personal things got in the way of finishing the update.
[09:28] <aguilar> hello
[09:28] <Swatgoss> How can i set my own desktop resolution on my desktop, under Kubuntu (basic system, just after a fresh install), on win i use a 1200x900 desktop on 2 screens (2400x900 if u prefer), and i got a 6600GT
[09:28] <fdoving> bkudria: oh.. you're on breezy. Are you sure you don't have any dapper repositories in your sources.list? mixing dapper and breezy might make problems.
[09:28] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Ah ok.  Well glad to hear you are aware of it and hopefully we can get the facts added soon enough
[09:28] <aguilar> tengo un problema con la placa de red en kubuntu
[09:29] <Seveas> Hawkwind, sure -- tonight won't be possible but if it's not fixed by tomorrow I should be fired ;)
[09:29] <bkudria> fdoving: i'm on breezy?  oh...maybe i checked the wrong option in source-o-matic...i'm actually on dapper
[09:29] <bkudria> fdoving: that would explain it...thanks
[09:29] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Hah!  Can't have you fired, then noone would maintain the bot :)
[09:29] <fdoving> bkudria: that's explains it then. :)
[09:29] <fdoving> -'s
[09:29] <aguilar> no hay un canal spanish ?'
[09:29] <Hawkwind> aguilar: English here.  Or try in #Kubuntu-ES
[09:29] <Kiongku> hawkwind: any idea to my question?
[09:30] <aguilar> thank
[09:30] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: When you modprobe something, it should set that to be loaded on boot automatically
[09:30] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: That's the point of modprobe
[09:31] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: well that one modprobe videodev does not.. i have to put it each time my system restart
[09:32] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Have you tried adding videodev to your /etc/modules file ?
[09:32] <bkudria> fdoving: thanks for the help !
[09:32] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: yeah trying now brb restart system as test
[09:37] <Kiongku> hawkwind: nah its still not good..
[09:37] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: one more thing.. kpersonalizer keeps opening each time i boot up.. how do i stop it?
[09:38] <office_> hello
[09:38] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Remove it from your startup file
[09:38] <office_> can anyone help me install one movie player?
[09:38] <Swatgoss> do u got Kaffeine ?
[09:38] <Swatgoss> u just need codecs to get it wrok
[09:38] <bele> hmm is there an easy way to solve my problem: clock was set to future (one hour or so). I set NTP on and voila - correct time. But now I'm unable to sudo anything
[09:38] <office_> i have it
[09:38] <Swatgoss> work*
[09:38] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: where is it?
[09:39] <office_> but it does nt works properly
[09:39] <Swatgoss> !codecs
[09:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:39] <office_> ah
[09:39] <office_> and how can i install codecs?
[09:39] <Swatgoss> see restricted formats
[09:39] <office_> !codecs
[09:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:39] <bele> sudo: timestamp too far in the future:
[09:39] <Swatgoss> i found all codecs i need to play all format
[09:39] <Swatgoss> and before this i spend at least 3 weeks without MP3 or vids ...
[09:40] <office_> this is first time when i use linux
[09:40] <Swatgoss> wasn't mine :'(
[09:40] <Swatgoss> its not difficult
[09:40] <Swatgoss> u just have to add some repositories
[09:40] <bele> well ... I guess my problem will be solved in one hour or so :)
[09:40] <Swatgoss> on /etc/apt/sources.list (i'm not sure)
[09:41] <Swatgoss> add them and install the packages listed
[09:41] <Swatgoss> and enjoy :p
[09:42] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Can you paste your /etc/modules to a pastebin
[09:42] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Startup file is in ~/.kde or something IIRC
[09:45] <draik> Hello everyone
[09:45] <draik> I am not able to log into my kubuntu desktop
[09:46] <draik> I am stuck on a loop trying to log in
[09:47] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: cant find startup file
[09:47] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I don't remember where it is since I don't use KDE :P
[09:48] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: hehe lol
[09:48] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: btw there's nothingn much in the modules.. just lp and psmouse on different lines
[09:49] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Yeah I can't find the file Ubuntu uses.  In Mandriva it was /etc/modprobe.conf
[09:50] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: doh.. nvm its my webcam and i dunt use it often anyway.. just got to remember that command XD
[09:55] <charles1952> Help please! Being a newbie I have been messing with things that I shouldn't...namely the resources.list repository file. After doing a complete update I apparently installed a non-stable version of Kubuntu or the KDE front end. I find that many programs that I try to install crash during the installation process. Does anyone know how I can go back to the original configuration without having to do a completely new re-install?
[09:55] <Hawkwind> charles1952: You upgraded KDE to 3.5.4 and want to revert ?
[09:56] <larson9999> hmmm my machine has locked up a few times now with a white screen
[09:56] <draik> larson9999, I can't even log in
[09:56] <draik> I'm stuck in console
[09:56] <larson9999> draik: lol
[09:56] <charles1952> I don't know the version number. I do get a boot prompt that asks whether I want Kubuntu 23 or 26 to boot.
[09:56] <larson9999> ok that's not funny
[09:57] <larson9999> draik: well, then you're logged on
[09:57] <Hawkwind> charles1952: Ok.  What happens when the system boots ?
[09:57] <draik> larson9999, not really
[09:57] <draik> no kde
[09:57] <larson9999> sounds like you just need your graphics card setup
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> kde 3.5.4 hardlocks various machines for me (approx 1 / 2 times a day)
[09:57] <Swatgoss> charles1952 this looks normal ... (grub screen)
[09:57] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: happened to me twice on 3.5.2.  that's why i upgraded :)
[09:57] <xav_> wow
[09:57] <draik> larson9999, I needed to log in this morning to get my resume for a job and I had to tell him to get it from online.
[09:57] <Hawkwind> draik: Are you using Nvidia drivers and recently done a kernel update or something and haven't reinstalled the drivers ?
[09:57] <draik> luckily I added it
[09:58] <xav_> kubuntu seems awfully unstable hearing you
[09:58] <Hawkwind> charles1952: Please keep the conversation here in the channel
[09:58] <draik> Hawkwind, nothing but the recent updates from adept
[09:58] <draik> sorry, adept updater
[09:58] <xav_> better use windows
[09:58] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i'll try gnome out and see if it happens there.
[09:58] <Hawkwind> charles1952: Open something like konqueror and click on Help then About
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: what is the problem ?
[09:59] <Hawkwind> charles1952: That will tell you your KDE version
[09:59] <charles1952> okay
[09:59] <charles1952> BRB
[09:59] <larson9999> the screen goes white and no manner of key combinations i know do anything i can tell.
[09:59] <LeeJunFan> h3sp4wn: no lock problems for me.
[09:59] <charles1952> Version 3.5.4 is what I'm running.
[10:00] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i googled for white screen and didn't find anything that looked like my prob
[10:00] <draik> not being able to log in is annoying
[10:00] <Hawkwind> charles1952: So you want to revert back to 3.5.3 then ?
[10:01] <charles1952> Hawkwind: And I will keep the conv. in this panel..thanks.
[10:01] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: what video card ?
[10:01] <charles1952> Is 3.5.3 the latest stable release?
[10:01] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: radeon xpress 200.  it's embedded in my mobo
[10:01] <Hawkwind> charles1952: Yes.  3.5.4 has had issues for many users.  I reverted back to it as well
[10:01] <draik> Hawkwind, I go to log in, type my password, it seems like its about to log in and then just goes back to asking me for my password again
[10:01] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: Are you using the fglrx from the repos or the later ones ?
[10:01] <Hawkwind> draik: Error messages in pastebin would be a lot more helpful
[10:02] <charles1952> Hawkwind: Okay...how do I revert?
[10:02] <draik> I can't go online to pastebin
[10:02] <draik> it's just a loop
[10:02] <Hawkwind> charles1952: First, can you put your /etc/apt/sourcs.list into http://pastebin.ulteo.us please
[10:02] <Hawkwind> draik: There are console browsers, like links or lynx
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> draik: Sounds like some files in your home directory are possibly owned by root
[10:03] <draik> h3sp4wn, how would I go about changing that?
[10:03] <LeeJunFan> Ever since upgrading to 3.5.4 I haven't been able to burn DVD's well, oddly though k3b doesn't seem to be a package which was updated according to /var/log/dpkg.log, and mkisofs,growisofs also have not been updated.
[10:03] <charles1952> Hawkwind: Okay...give me a minute and I will send the URL
[10:03] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: hmmm i forgot how i installed this.  this is my time with ati.  i'll figure that out and let you know.
[10:03] <Hawkwind> charles1952: Ok, thanks
[10:04] <h3sp4wn> draik: chown -R yourusername * && chown -R yourusername .* (as root)
[10:05] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: is installed using #4 from this site: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/64489-ati-radeon-xpress-200-cant-change-screen-resolution.html
[10:05] <draik> holy crapolla...
[10:05] <draik> I am using 100% of my partition
[10:05] <draik> I'm sure that's what's causing it
[10:05] <larson9999> draik that'll cause all sorts of problems :)
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> 5% should be reserved for root by default
[10:06] <charles1952> Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/55 is where it is stored.
[10:07] <draik> how do I delete a directory?
[10:07] <Hawkwind> charles1952: PM me and I'll help you revert back to 3.5.3
[10:07] <Hawkwind> draik: rm -r
[10:07] <draik> rm -?
[10:07] <draik> thank you
[10:08] <draik> Ok.
[10:08] <draik> Here goes nothing
[10:08] <draik> Time to log back in
[10:09] <Swatgoss> Can Konqueror show the usage% of a HDD, like Win do ? (i use df to see it, but not really simple way to see this info)
[10:10] <enzo> Swatgoss, open konsole and type 'df -h'
[10:11] <enzo> That's basic though
[10:11] <Swatgoss> in Konqueror :p
[10:11] <cannonball> Swatgoss: kdf is an app that does what you want, though not in konq.
[10:11] <LeeJunFan> Swatgoss: you can go to "Storage Media" and right click a device and get properties, and then check size but it actually does a more intensive check of all files sizes and takes a while.
[10:12] <LeeJunFan> which I think is a bit stupid.
[10:12] <Swatgoss> yep thats why i asked for Konqueror option like "df"
[10:12] <chbaker__> hello all...
[10:13] <Swatgoss> i also can use the "space use displayer" (don't know the name in english
[10:13] <Swatgoss> )
[10:13] <Swatgoss> but not as ergonimic as win display ...
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: I would try downloading the very latest drivers from ati.com - then opt to build packages for dapper
[10:14] <Freddy2> why don't u use kdf?
[10:14] <Swatgoss> cause i just think about the option in konqueror :p
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: They have made alot of changes recently which are worth havnig
[10:16] <draik> I'm in
[10:16] <draik> Thank you all for your help
[10:17] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: ok i will
[10:19] <Polarbeer> ccc_: sorry... had to do other things for a while. Now it seems to be working. I'm connected and all, but i get the message "Hashing Failed: Unable to read hash data file"
[10:20] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i tried that before but one of the options wasn't build for dapper so i didn't know what to pick
[10:20] <Freddy2> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/sun_buys_hp/ <- "hewlett packard/compaq" is the same than "hewlett and packard"?
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> inci
[10:21] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: when you get the file just do chmod +x ATI-whatever.run
[10:21] <ccc_> Polarbeer: you installed it to /usr/local as the howto described, right?
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: then ./ATI-whatever.run --help (the option is something like --buildpkg Ubuntu/Dapper
[10:21] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: ok.
[10:21] <Polarbeer> ccc_: yes
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: It should give you a few debs - possibly not the kernel module for the running kernel - but it may do (I don't have any ati stuff anymore)
[10:22] <ccc_> Polarbeer: do: ls -l ~/.dc++/      to see if you own the contents of that dir
[10:23] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i'll check it out.
[10:23] <Freddy2> hmm next time i'll try to read also the body of the article.. XD
[10:23] <larson9999> Freddy2: just yell at them for not making better titles
[10:24] <ccc_> Polarbeer: what i meant was your username should be to the left of the file names, in both the user and group column :)
[10:24] <Polarbeer> ccc_: i do, except for HaschData.dat
[10:24] <Polarbeer> i created the file as root, because i got an error
[10:25] <Polarbeer> before it said "couldnt locate file hashdata.dat" or something
[10:25] <Polarbeer> so i created it
[10:25] <Polarbeer> but i used chmod to give myself permissions (i was logged in as root)
[10:25] <ccc_> Polarbeer: you mean you ran the program as root?
[10:25] <Polarbeer> no
[10:26] <Polarbeer> created it manually in console mode, just an empty file
[10:26] <Polarbeer> running the console as root
[10:26] <ccc_> Polarbeer: oh ok, i wouldn't recommend that. delete the file and restart
[10:26] <Polarbeer> restart dc++?
[10:27] <ccc_> yes
[10:27] <Polarbeer> ok
[10:27] <ccc_> as your user
[10:27] <Polarbeer> ok
[10:27] <trappist> after upgrading to an amd64 install, kmail can no longer do ntlm authentication.  anybody know where I should start looking to fix this?
[10:28] <larson9999> ok, going to start building my mainframe.  this is just about as exciting as when i first found out i can run unix at home!
[10:31] <Polarbeer> ccc_: ok, now its hashing very much
[10:31] <ccc_> \o/
[10:31] <jordo23> Is there a help doc or howto on how to install flash player for Konqueror?
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: You can get some seriously cool looking sun stuff quite cheap these days
[10:32] <Polarbeer> ccc_: thanks for your help! :D
[10:32] <Swatgoss> for Konq ? i installed the flash for mozilla and Konq play flashs
[10:32] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: you mean real sun stuff?  i'm taking mainframe emulator
[10:32] <jordo23> I don't have Mozilla installed.
[10:32] <Swatgoss> try to install its plugin
[10:33] <Swatgoss> from flash.com (or something like that)
[10:33] <Swatgoss> (mozilla = firefox for me=
[10:33] <Swatgoss> )
[10:33] <jordo23> Swatgoss: If I install it for Firefox it will work for Konq?
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: I am talking about having a mainframe
[10:34] <ccc_> Polarbeer: glad to help :)
[10:34] <Swatgoss> on my sys it works on Konq and firefox, since i iinstalled the plugin
[10:35] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: me too.  i'm going to set up a machine deditcated to running hercules + mvs38j.  very close to the first mainframe i worked on.  and not too terrible different from the one i work on now(or did until a couple weeks ago).
[10:36] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i've tried it out and it works rather well.
[10:37] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: and the price is right :)
[10:37] <Polarbeer> ccc_: den blockar mig frn att PM:a (oregistrerad anvndare..). tack fr tipsen!
[10:37] <apallo19> is anyone familiar with attaching evolution to exchange server?
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: xen and usermodelinux are quite interesting
[10:39] <larson9999> yeah
[10:40] <office_> who is romanian in here?
[10:40] <fdoving> apallo19: you might have more success asking that in #ubuntu, as evolution is the default PIM there. we use kontact/kmail.
[10:40] <apallo19> ahh
[10:40] <apallo19> thanks
[10:40] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[10:41] <jott> apallo19: what's the actual problem? worked fine here.. ;)
[10:41] <jeff_hann> office_, i am
[10:44] <_uwo> hi all. have question regarding ipod - when i mount the ipod it mounts correctly, i can sync it, everything OK, but it is displayed as a "mounted camera" and gets the "camera" icon. where are these settings set? how can i change it to being recognised as an ipod or at least a removable drive?
[10:48] <Swatgoss> i make smthing in my aliases list, it tells to reboot ... Ctrl+Alt+Bckspace is enough or computer restart needed ?
[10:48] <fdoving> Swatgoss: what alias list?
[10:49] <Swatgoss> this one /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[10:49] <Swatgoss> for deactivating ipv6
[10:51] <fdoving> Swatgoss: reboot to activate changes, as the modules are loaded at boot time. and the ipv6 module is loaded already. If you don't want to reboot you can unload the ipv6 module with the command 'sudo rmmod ipv6'.
[10:51] <Swatgoss> i prefer reboot :p windows stale :p
[10:51] <fdoving> it's often the easiest :)
[10:52] <Swatgoss> u tell me how to unload but how to reload :p i will have to reboot too ...
[10:52] <fdoving> i tell you how to unload, not reload.
[10:53] <xav_> hu, rebooting instead of simply removing a module is stupid
[10:53] <Swatgoss> I'm stupid :p
[10:53] <xav_> for some more complicated stuff, I don't know, but here..
[10:53] <fdoving> xav_: it's not stupid if you want to check that it's not re-loaded at boot time.
[10:54] <xav_> fdoving: you'll reboot sooner or later to find out
[10:54] <Swatgoss> !codecs
[10:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:55] <fdoving> xav_: sure, but then you might have forgotten some of the changes you did that should be activated during next reboot, and so on.. a reboot of a desktop system doesn't hurt if you have the time and patience :)
[10:55] <Swatgoss> i got loooot of time ...
[10:55] <Swatgoss> and moooore patience
[10:56] <Swatgoss> See You all :p
[10:56] <jordo23> I am trying to install flashplayer for Konq, and I show it as a listed plugin under the config section, but it does not work. Anyone know why?
[10:57] <jordo23> I ran through the installer script for flashplayer and it stated it was complete with no errors.
[10:57] <xav_> first kde 3.5.4 kubuntu packages had problems?
[10:58] <kyle_> ello
[10:58] <kyle_> just installed kubuntu
[10:58] <xav_> jordo23: I'm glad when flash doesn't work, what a stupid crap :)
[10:58] <jordo23> xav: I want it to work though....any ideas?
[10:58] <xav_> sorry, no
[10:58] <kyle_> does anyone know how i can increase the mouse sensitivity?
[10:59] <kyle_> wait
[10:59] <xav_> which mouse?
[10:59] <kyle_> how do i enable root?
[10:59] <Freddy2> xDD
[10:59] <xav_> you don't
[10:59] <xav_> use sudo
[10:59] <kyle_> the trackpad on the laptop
[10:59] <kyle_> oh
[10:59] <xav_> ho
[10:59] <xav_> hm
[10:59] <kyle_> so how would i go enabling root?
[10:59] <xav_> you don't
[10:59] <kyle_> er
[11:00] <Dasnipa`> xav_, you _can_
[11:00] <xav_> you don't need to
[11:00] <Dasnipa`> you can enable root but sudo works as well
[11:00] <xav_> actually, it annoyed me the first time
[11:00] <kyle_> yea i can see why
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> jordo23: "Settings" (next to Help) > "Configure Konqueror" Scroll down the side to plugins #
[11:00] <kyle_> security reasons
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> jordo23: "Settings" (next to Help) > "Configure Konqueror" Scroll down the side to plugins Click "Scan for new plugins"
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> #
[11:00] <xav_> but recently, I finally found I preferred using sudo :)
[11:00] <kyle_> well the trackpad response is really bad
[11:01] <xav_> so it always uses my user settings
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> jordo23: It should fid it then (if you installed flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse)
[11:01] <xav_> and completion works out of the box
[11:01] <xav_> it kicks ass :)
[11:01] <xav_> kyle_: maybe you can edit xorg.conf
[11:01] <kyle_> like my index finger is aching cuz the trackpad isn't sensitive
[11:01] <kyle_> oh ok
[11:01] <xav_> kyle_: you don't know which driver is used?
[11:01] <kyle_> lemme get to it
[11:01] <swatgoss> Swat is back
[11:01] <kyle_> xav uh no idea
[11:01] <jordo23> h3sp4wn: what's the package name?
[11:01] <xav_> hm I had a weird bug on debian
[11:01] <xav_> don't know if it happens on ubuntu too
[11:02] <kyle_> i am a switcher from mac os x --> kubuntu
[11:02] <xav_> try modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse
[11:02] <kyle_> ok modprobe it is
[11:02] <kyle_> hold on
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> jordo23: flashplugin-nonfree
[11:02] <kyle_> do i sudo for that?
[11:02] <xav_> kyle_: yes
[11:03] <office_> so
[11:03] <office_> i can`t play movies
[11:03] <office_> :(
[11:03] <kyle_> awe crap
[11:03] <office_> !codecs
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <swatgoss> (translation ? modprobe in french, or at least the complete name of this "thing" in english ?)
[11:03] <kyle_> my mouse froze
[11:03] <kyle_> what the he11
[11:03] <xav_> kyle_: did you reload it?
[11:03] <kyle_> how? i ran that command and my mouse froze
[11:03] <kyle_> how do i unfreeze it?
[11:04] <xav_> sudo modprobe psmouse
[11:04] <swatgoss> microwave ?
[11:04] <xav_> maybe that too
[11:04] <swatgoss> (sorry)
[11:04] <kyle_> xav it took that command but didn't unfreeze it
[11:04] <kyle_> still frozen
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> jordo23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats (If you just install everything on that page you will have everything you need)
[11:04] <kyle_> i dind't crash the mouse cursor did it
[11:05] <xav_> you're 100% sure you reloaded it?
[11:05] <xav_> lsmod | grep psmouse
[11:05] <kyle_> xav how do i reload it?
[11:05] <kyle_> ok hold on
[11:05] <swatgoss> reset button on PC case ...
[11:06] <kyle_> it shows psmouse running i think?
[11:06] <kyle_> lsmod |grep psmouse shows it
[11:06] <xav_> works fine here
[11:07] <xav_> what do you see in dmesg ?
[11:07] <kyle_> hmmm
[11:07] <kyle_> holdon
[11:09] <kyle_> dmesg | grep *ouse displays ps2 mouse device common for all device whatever thta means
[11:09] <kyle_> ok ima restart
[11:09] <office_> ok still not workking
[11:09] <office_> getting angry
[11:09] <kyle_> xav u there?
[11:09] <Freddy2> kyle_: ps2 mouses require to switch off the pc completely, and then restart for working again
[11:09] <office_> installed codecs and mplayer and nothing...
[11:09] <office_> :((
[11:10] <kyle_> awe man
[11:10] <kyle_> thanks freddy
[11:10] <kyle_> brb
[11:10] <office_> !player
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <office_> !players
[11:10] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:10] <swatgoss> test
[11:10] <office_> !mplayer
[11:10] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[11:10] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper> office_: I use amaroK, xine engine, libxine-extracodecs and w32codec
[11:11] <swatgoss> cool after 75secs deconnection Konversation loads the missed sentences
[11:16] <gebruiker> I need to clone my hd to other hd's trough cd/dvd automaticly. What options are there?
[11:16] <swatgoss> on 2 PCs ?
[11:17] <gebruiker> swatgoss: 10 pc's but no network
[11:17] <swatgoss> ouch
[11:17] <gebruiker> all identical hardware
[11:17] <swatgoss> i only got 2 PCs in my room :p
[11:17] <dragonkh> hello
[11:17] <MitchM_> did you use our friend google gebruiker
[11:17] <MitchM_> ?
[11:17] <swatgoss> so i don't have large scale solutions for u ...
[11:18] <dragonkh> my 64 bit dapper install hangs on vga frambuffer line 0 any one got a clue
[11:18] <gebruiker> MitchM_: not found anyuthing usefull
[11:18] <kyle_> hlloo
[11:18] <kyle_> got mouse back
[11:18] <kyle_> ok
[11:18] <kyle_> down to mouse issues
[11:18] <kyle_> how do i increase mouse sensitivity?
[11:20] <MitchM_> gebruiker - so you want to create/setup a single machine; and then make an install cd based on the configuration of that machine?
[11:21] <swatgoss> kyle_ Mouse in system parameters
[11:21] <gebruiker>  MitchM_ I want to store this instlation on other identical hardware machines, yes, through a install cd/dvd.
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> kyle_: System Settings -> mOUSE
[11:21] <Fri13> Hello, is rt2570 WLAN drivers how well supported with kubuntu?
[11:21] <xav_> kyle_: you can try to edit them in the control center. if this doesn't work, in X config
[11:21] <MitchM_> try partimg
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> ooops
[11:21] <MitchM_> partimage*
[11:21] <MitchM_> !info partimage
[11:21] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> gebruike: If they are identical you can just use dd (nothing fancy is needed)
[11:22] <MitchM_> !info dd
[11:22] <ubotu> Package dd does not exist in dapper
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> coreutils: /bin/dd
[11:23] <MitchM_> !info mondo
[11:23] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.06-1 (dapper), package size 462 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> MitchM_: is partimg better than just using tar??
[11:24] <MitchM> for what purpose?
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> MitchM: backup
[11:24] <MitchM> of?
[11:25] <MitchM> MySQL databases?
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> hard disk
[11:25] <MitchM> or an entire install?
[11:25] <MitchM> si.
[11:25] <MitchM> check into mondo
[11:25] <MitchM> also
[11:25] <MitchM> "man mondo"
[11:25] <MitchM> tar is better for "smaller" projects
[11:25] <MitchM> like creating rotating backups on an existing HD
[11:25] <MitchM> i.e. mysql databases
[11:26] <MitchM> logs
[11:26] <MitchM> etc etc
[11:26] <h3sp4wn> gebruiker: http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html (I have done what you want just using dd and netcat)
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> MitchM: no man:mondo so probable have to install it
[11:27] <MitchM> well; you can install it or google the man docs.
[11:27] <MitchM> let me pull up a url for you
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> MitchM: got it thanx :-)
[11:29] <MitchM> yuppers
[11:29] <swatgoss> yuppee + supers ?
[11:29] <swatgoss> lol
[11:29] <MitchM> or...
[11:30] <kyle_> how do i run firefox?
[11:30] <MitchM> yup + pers
[11:30] <kyle_> i just downloaded it
[11:30] <swatgoss> K menu > Internet > firefox web browser
[11:30] <MitchM> well the crude way of doing it would be going into the CLI
[11:30] <admin__> anyone know why when I set my preferences to use VLC instead of amarok it doesn't stay tat way?
[11:30] <MitchM> aye. what he said.
[11:30] <swatgoss> kyle_ downloaded or installed ?
[11:30] <Sakireth> Guys, in KDE, when i try to configure my second panel, it configures to bottom panel, the main one. there's no neat popup, whatsoever, either. and i really need the solution to this quick, because i need to sleep.
[11:30] <kyle_> swatgoss it's not installed
[11:30] <kyle_> i only extracted it
[11:30] <swatgoss> kyle_ use ADEPT
[11:31] <swatgoss> will install all u need
[11:31] <swatgoss> automaticaly
[11:31] <swatgoss> dependencies, libs, updates
[11:31] <swatgoss> K menu > System > Adept
[11:31] <swatgoss> and search firefox
[11:31] <MitchM> or in the sli type sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:31] <Sakireth> anyone?
[11:31] <Sakireth> Guys, in KDE, when i try to configure my second panel, it configures to bottom panel, the main one. there's no neat popup, whatsoever, either. and i really need the solution to this quick, because i need to sleep.
[11:31] <MitchM> sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:32] <fdoving> Sakireth: please don't repeat your question every minute. We did see your first post.
[11:32] <MitchM> sorry sakireth; I have no answers for you.
[11:32] <dragonkh> anyone got a clue what my frambuffer install problem is on dapper?
[11:32] <Sakireth> fdoving: Good. but, the problem is, i can't sleep until i know it
[11:32] <MitchM> google; its your friend.
[11:33] <MitchM> no idea dragonkh
[11:33] <MitchM> can you boot into the command line?
[11:33] <MitchM> i.e. install a "server" copy
[11:33] <MitchM> and then try and isntall a GUI from there
[11:33] <Sakireth> solved it
[11:33] <Sakireth> ^_^
[11:34] <dragonkh> I cant boot up at all from the install disk - it switches to frambuffer and then hangs
[11:34] <MitchM> hmm
[11:34] <fdoving> Sakireth: doesn't matter to me, be polite and wait for answers. You're not more important than others requesting help. Now, to your problem, in the 'panel configuration' on top of the page, you can choose the panel to configure in the dropdown menu..  'main panel' and your other panels.
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> dragonkh: desktop or altenative iso ?
[11:35] <kyle_> apt-get downloads a whole new firefox
[11:35] <kyle_> i've already donwloaded it
[11:35] <swatgoss> the one from adept is better :p
[11:35] <kyle_> so if i were to run the install off my drive, how would i do that
[11:35] <dragonkh> h3sp4wn 64 bit install disk - desktop
[11:35] <kyle_> oh i just ran adept and updated my system but i didn't see firefox
[11:36] <swatgoss> kyle_ do u have multiverse ?
[11:36] <swatgoss> i think its in multiverse
[11:36] <kyle_> whre do i find thta in my system?
[11:36] <swatgoss> in your sources.list
[11:36] <kyle_> uhm
[11:36] <swatgoss> add multiverse repos
[11:36] <kyle_> ok firefox installed
[11:37] <kyle_> but it's not in the menu
[11:37] <kyle_> where did i tog
[11:37] <kyle_> heh
[11:37] <swatgoss> sometimes firefox don't appear exactly when u install it
[11:38] <kyle_> gotta go run and  type firefox
[11:38] <Freddy2> try launching manually from konsole.. if works create a new shorcut at desktop (for example)
[11:38] <kyle_> yea i ran from command line
[11:38] <kyle_> whereis firefox will find it?
[11:38] <Sanne> kyle_: be aware that when you download and install programs manually, the package manager of kubuntu has no way of knowing of this program, and also can't add it to the menu.
[11:38] <swatgoss> try restarting GUI for updating menus ... (i don't know other way to update them)
[11:38] <kyle_> go tit
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> dragonkh: Try the alterntive iso - or do you not have the means to download and burn it ?
[11:38] <kyle_> haha goooo tit
[11:38] <kyle_> got it
[11:38] <Sanne> lol
[11:39] <kyle_> sanne i used apt-get
[11:39] <Freddy2> which firefox
[11:39] <dragonkh> h3sp4wn - hmm I could burn it tomorrow at work
[11:39] <kyle_> which would you prefer that i use?
[11:39] <Sanne> kyle_: ahm you did? Sorry then... :)
[11:39] <kyle_> im new to kubuntu
[11:39] <Freddy2> simply try to
[11:39] <fdoving> Sakireth: did that work for you?
[11:39] <swatgoss> kyle_try to use ADEPT at its max
[11:39] <kyle_> i used os x and man no acpi on my laptop
[11:39] <dragonkh> h3sp4wn I have a nvidia 7950 - maybe thats the problem - maybe linux doesnt support it
[11:39] <Sanne> kyle_: if you're new, definitely stick with the package manager if possible.
[11:39] <swatgoss> if u don't want to eat command lines
 solved it
[11:39] <MitchM> [15:34]  <Sakireth> ^_^
[11:39] <kyle_> swatgoss really
[11:39] <kyle_> ?
[11:39] <kyle_> o
[11:39] <fdoving> MitchM: thanks :)
[11:40] <kyle_> cap
[11:40] <MitchM> fdoving: Affirmative :-)
[11:40] <kyle_> crap* so if i wanna uninstall firefox then .........
[11:40] <kyle_> how would i do it
[11:40] <swatgoss> no idea :p
[11:40] <swatgoss> with ADEPT just check uninstall :p
[11:41] <swatgoss> and apply
[11:41] <kyle_> awe crap
[11:41] <kyle_> ok
[11:41] <fdoving> gnite.
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> dragonkh: I think it will support it (with the binary nvidia drivers) if you install with the other cd you will install in a vga text mode - then you can install the binary nvidia drivers and you should be fine
[11:42] <cannonball> What's a gui app to use to do a suspend?
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> dragonkh: You could try adding xforcevesa - to the boot line
[11:44] <kyle_> how can i add an icon to firefox?
[11:45] <swatgoss> kyle_right clic modify
[11:45] <tester> hey guys, I'm trying to get chinese characters to dispaly in kubuntu, can anyone help?
[11:46] <kyle_> swatgoss on the shell script
[11:46] <kyle_> ?
[11:46] <swatgoss> shell ?
[11:46] <swatgoss> dunno
[11:46] <tester> kyle_: on the icon on your desktop
[11:46] <kyle_> yea i found the /usr/bin/firefox
[11:46] <swatgoss> kyle_ u can change the icon from menu editor
[11:47] <swatgoss> but if u use the default "FIREFOX" icon, it sux a bit on the board
[11:47] <kyle_> yea i dont' have an icon
[11:48] <dragonkh> h3sp4wn - ok thanks - what does that do
[11:48] <swatgoss> default ... mean icon named firefox in menu editor
[11:48] <kyle_> so everytime i run firefox i'll have to fire up the terminal?
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> dragonkh: It would use the vesa driver instead of nv (I think)
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> dragonkh: The easiest method would be to just download the alternative iso though
[11:49] <swatgoss> kyle_ u installed it from ADEPT ? if yes u will have an icon in K menu
[11:51] <kyle_> that's the thing i didn't i got firefox via apt-get
[11:52] <kyle_> so i just did ln -s /usr/bin/firefox firefox
[11:52] <kyle_> o well
[11:52] <kyle_> thanks heh
[11:53] <solus_> hello, if anyone knows anything about 6.06 on pavillion notebooks i would appreciate a little advice on a hardware issue
[11:54] <kyle_> hmmm
[11:54] <swatgoss> solus_ wich kind ?
[11:54] <kyle_> ADEPT does show i got firefox installed after i did it using apt-get
[11:54] <kyle_> brb
[11:55] <solus_> zv5230us
[11:55] <swatgoss> kyle_ adept rocks :p
[11:55] <swatgoss> solus_ and in HUMAN language ? :p
[11:55] <solus_> umm, wait, 5320us lol
[11:55] <swatgoss> solus_ CPU RAM GC ?
[11:55] <swatgoss> + chipset
[11:56] <solus_> ok, got you, its an athelon 3200+, 512 ram, nvidia chipset
[11:56] <swatgoss> solus_ and your problem is ?
[11:57] <solus_> that everything works perfectly except anything on the outside of the comp, lol.  for example, the sound card works well, but the headphone jack doesnt owrk
[11:57] <solus_> neither do the usbs, mic jack, and the oddest thing, the volume controls
[11:57] <solus_> who light up when i use the mixer to mute or such, so they only half dont work
[11:57] <swatgoss> solus_ jack don't work !!!! ????!!!!
[11:58] <cannonball> solus_: You have an interesting definition of "works perfectly".
[11:58] <solus_> correct, i tried it with 3 different headphones.
[11:58] <solus_> i said everything inside workd perfectly, lol
[11:58] <cannonball> heh
[11:58] <swatgoss> solus_ the jack is solded to sound card :p
[11:58] <swatgoss> in a kind of short cut ...
[11:59] <solus_> i know, im better building pcs then i am with this software part
[11:59] <swatgoss> solus_ u have another OS installed ?
[11:59] <solus_> the jack worked 9 days ago under windows, and 3 sets of headphones didnt work
[11:59] <solus_> not anymoew
[11:59] <solus_> i couldnt get windows back on after the last crash, so i wiped and linuxed, and now i learn as i go
[12:00] <swatgoss> solus_ very strange ... every time i got jack not working it was a physical problem
[12:00] <solus_> alright, then as long as that isnt a usual thing, ill check out the hardware tomorrow in the light
[12:01] <swatgoss> solus_ try an other live CD ?
[12:01] <solus_> only knoppix, and there is works
[12:01] <swatgoss> solus_ very very strange :p
[12:01] <solus_> but everything always works for me on knoppix
[12:01] <solus_> i dont know if knpx3.04 has a different way of doing things, but this is odd
[12:01] <swatgoss> why u don't use knoppix so ? :p
[12:01] <whizz-> i was running ksystemlog and saw something strange in there: every second the message "keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240" is printed about 15-20 times
[12:02] <solus_> haha, and reinstall everything everytime i reboot, i already ahve ahd my share of learning how to install this week
[12:02] <swatgoss> not specialy a live CD
[12:03] <swatgoss> u can install it on last version ... (i tested a knoppix based live CD with install option, Kaella Live CD)
[12:03] <solus_> at this point im determined to get kubuntu to work, i like it, my comp has never run so quickly and smoothly, and i already tried 3 linux distributions before this one...  it took me 18 hous to get suse installed, lol
[12:03] <Vge> only 18?
[12:03] <swatgoss> lol
[12:03] <solus_> hey, the magazine told me it hsould take less than 2
[12:04] <swatgoss> suse recompil whole system ?
[12:04] <solus_> i have no idea what it did, but i know that then after i used the install program that came with it to install addons from its own cd, it wouldnt boot anymore
[12:04] <swatgoss> or somethind like that :p
[12:05] <swatgoss> wow
[12:05] <Vge> well, to be honest, kubuntu takes some time too work nicely
[12:05] <solus_> yeah, it didnt like me, so far the only problem ive had other than this new found hardware stuff was when i killed my own sudo not knowing how to use it, and i was able to fix that
[12:05] <solus_> that was already 10 steps ahead of suse and red hat
[12:06] <kyle_> is wine available for kubuntu?
[12:06] <swatgoss> yep
[12:06] <kyle_> through adept?
[12:06] <swatgoss> (for wine)
[12:06] <kyle_> i couldn't find it
[12:06] <swatgoss> i didnt look at it
[12:06] <solus_> then try synaptic
[12:07] <whizz-> i was running ksystemlog and saw something strange in there: every second the message "(process: kernel) keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240" is printed about 15-20 times
[12:07] <kyle_> solus where is synaptic?
[12:07] <swatgoss> synaptic don't use the same repos as adept ????
[12:07] <solus_> its easier to use, and you can customize more of your settings
[12:07] <swatgoss> synaptic is to be installed
[12:07] <solus_> you ahve to dl synaptic through adept
[12:07] <kyle_> oh ok
[12:07] <kyle_> brb
[12:07] <swatgoss> install installer :p
[12:07] <kyle_> haha
[12:08] <solus_> oull ahve to reboot your system to get it to show in your program menu, kyle
[12:08] <swatgoss> no other solutions for updating the menus ?
[12:08] <kyle_> solus i searched for synaptec in adept and nothing
[12:08] <solus_> its synaptic
[12:08] <kyle_> oh
[12:08] <swatgoss> just look synapt
[12:09] <swatgoss> can you reduce the font size of system messages only ?
[12:09] <kyle_> installed