[00:10] <ubotu> New bug: #180903 in ubuntu "OpenOffice Dialog Boxes Go Full-Screen Under Compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180903
[00:10] <ubotu> New bug: #180905 in webkit (universe) "Please sync webkit (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180905
[00:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180906 in dolphin (main) "malfromed url when selecting storage media from the places applet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180906
[00:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180907 in ubuntu "unable to resume from suspend or hibernate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180907
[00:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180911 in sobby (universe) "Needs to be rebuilt against new obby" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180911
[00:38] <teprrr> heya, has anyone seen a crash with intel gpu and newest hardy packages?
[00:39] <teprrr> it crashes when playing videos and switching between windowed and fullscreen modes.. when releasing memory/something about fonts
[00:43] <teprrr> ah, looks like this one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=452372
[00:43] <ubotu> Debian bug 452372 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "xserver-xorg-video-intel: X crashes after playing a video" [Normal,Open]
[00:46] <teprrr> and it's marked fixed in here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13377
[00:46] <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 13377 in Driver/intel "Intel 2.2 crashes if playing a video then switching to another desktop" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[00:46] <ubotu> New bug: #180909 in obby (main) "Please sync obby 0.4.5-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180909
[00:46] <teprrr> oh well, perhaps it'll be fixed when a new package rolls out :)
[00:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180910 in gobby (main) "Please sync gobby 0.4.6-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180910
[00:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180915 in big-cursor (universe) "Please sync big-cursor 3.7  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180915
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180916 in yelp (main) "yelp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180916
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180917 in ubuntu "add a gui like gksudo to automatically shut the computer down after a long operation finshes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180917
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #180918 in ubuntu ".. in in a symlinked directory is not what I expected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180918
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #180919 in gnome-panel (main) "problems with webcam hp pavilion dv2000 with ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180919
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #180926 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "emacs-snapshot hangs with Gnome panel apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180926
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180928 in gnome-games (main) "gnometris crashes as soon as new game is started." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180928
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #180922 in wordpress (universe) "Please merge wordpress 2.3.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180922
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180931 in daemontools-installer (multiverse) "now that daemontools is public domain can we get a binary?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180931
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #180932 in ubuntu "No scanner support hardy heron alpha 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180932
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180933 in evince (main) "it's impossible to put as default the continue mode setting for multiple pages reading" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180933
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180934 in glibc (main) "no libc6-xen (2.6.1-1ubuntu10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180934
[03:06] <Nafallo> wk
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180936 in exaile (universe) "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__gtk_tree_view_remove_column()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180936
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180937 in openoffice.org (main) "Spreadsheet time "sum" resets at 24:00" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180937
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180938 in yelp (main) "yelp crashes before starting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180938
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180940 in ubuntu "blank screen after install hardy heron alpha 2 amd64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180940
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180945 in brightside (universe) "Edge flipping not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180945
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180946 in pitivi (universe) "PiTiVi won't run." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180946
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #180947 in gpixpod (universe) "Debian watch file doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180947
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180948 in firefox (main) "limeire download incomplete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180948
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #180949 in ubuntu "update manager " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180949
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #180951 in pilot-link (main) "Please merge pilot-link 0.12.3-2 (main) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180951
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180952 in koffice2 (universe) "Horrible font rendering in kword-kde4" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180952
[05:42] <ubotu> New bug: #180953 in php5 (main) "libphp5 module does not load in apache2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180953
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180955 in ubuntu "upgraded to hardy layla24 alsa driver no login sounds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180955
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180956 in ubuntu "(On Hardy Heron) After a normal update my wireless network and sound got viped out completly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180956
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #180960 in xorg "X aborts w/ backtrace: 'Mode pool is empty' and 'No valid modes found'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180960
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180961 in firefox (main) "firefox and system crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180961
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180962 in epiphany-browser (main) "new GTK widgets could look better" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180962
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #180963 in ubuntu "Wireless Mouse causes intermittent audio issues in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180963
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #180964 in openoffice.org (main) "python-uno: doc.dispose() crashes with "Fatal Python error: PyImport_GetModuleDict: no module dictionary!"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180964
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180965 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "mozilla plugin controls faulty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180965
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180967 in zynaddsubfx (universe) "ZynAddSubFX has no LASH support" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180967
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180970 in specimen (universe) "No LASH support in Specimen sampler" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180970
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180971 in latex-beamer (main) "latex beamer package failure " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180971
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180973 in gnome-panel (main) "marcochiesi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180973
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #180977 in util-linux (main) "[util-linux] [CVE-2007-5191] privilege escalation vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180977
[10:27] <ubotu> New bug: #180974 in eggdrop (universe) "[eggdrop] [CVE-2007-2807] remote buffer overflow vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180974
[10:27] <ubotu> New bug: #180975 in evince (main) "Bad display with tinyerp-client pdf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180975
[10:27] <ubotu> New bug: #180976 in loop-aes-utils (universe) "[loop-aes-utils] [CVE-2007-5191] privilege escalation vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180976
[10:27] <ubotu> New bug: #180978 in wzdftpd (universe) "[wzdftpd] [CVE-2007-5300] DoS vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180978
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #180981 in sympa (universe) "Please merge sympa 5.3.4 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180981
[11:09]  * DarkMageZ pokes seb128 about bug #177811
[11:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177811 in pidgin "Please merge pidgin 2.3.1-2 (main) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177811
[11:10] <seb128> DarkMageZ: this guy should stop opening new bugs when there is already one with comment and I don't understand how to use that interdiff thing
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180982 in nautilus (main) "no warning about writing files bigger than 4GB on Fat32" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180982
[11:12] <persia> seb128: combinediff -z interdiff-file old-diff.gz | gzip --best -c - > new-dif.gz
[11:14] <seb128> persia: thanks
[11:14] <seb128> I don't get why people don't attach the dsc and the diff.gz
[11:14] <seb128> that's so much easier
[11:15] <persia> seb128: I wrote a guide to sponsoring interdiffs at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Interdiff, and would be happy for comments if it doesn't help.
[11:15] <seb128> persia: thanks
[11:15] <seb128> what would help is to stop using those
[11:15] <seb128> they don't bring anything since the diff is not human readable easily anyway
[11:15] <persia> Regarding the presentation of diff.gz files, I raised switching from interdiff to diff.gz at the 21st December MOTU meeting, but nobody wanted to switch.  Maybe it should get a ML discussion?
[11:16] <seb128> any reason they didn't want to switch?
[11:16] <persia> seb128: Unnecessary process change, and most of the people around were comfortable using interdiff.
[11:18] <seb128> persia: you should start a list discussion
[11:19] <persia> seb128: OK.  I'll not likely finish a draft this (my) evening, but ought get something out in ~24 hours, reprising the history of interdiff, and reintroducing cjwatson's suggestion to migrate to just diff.gz.
[11:20] <seb128> thanks
[11:22] <persia> Of course it would be better if I could figure out how to generate .dsc from .diff.gz and orig.tar.gz without unpacking, but maybe that's a later refinement :)
[11:22] <seb128> why do you need that?
[11:23] <seb128> if you have the diff.gz you can gunzip and patch -p0 < it
[11:24] <persia> seb128: Be neat if there was a script in ubuntu-dev-tools that would transform a candidate diff.gz into a candidate package with a single command, rather than having to go through the whole process described in the documentation I listed.
[11:24] <seb128> gunzip the diff.gz
[11:24] <seb128> untar the source
[11:24] <seb128> apply the patch
[11:24] <seb128> go to the source
[11:24] <seb128> run debuild
[11:24] <seb128> you can script that easily
[11:26] <persia> seb128: Well, my current script breaks when the structure of the tarball doesn't match standard conventions: I need to dig into dpkg-source a bit more.  I also just use zcat ../diff.gz | patch -p1 to save a step.
[11:26] <seb128> what do you mean by "standard conventions"?
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #180986 in hdparm (main) "Hard drive will not stay in standby mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180986
[11:27] <persia> Untars into packagename-version.  It fails for tarballs that unpack in the current directory, don't include the version, or have a different packagename upstream and in the repos.
[11:27] <seb128> ah, right
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180988 in amarok (main) "problems with amarok on gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180988
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180987 in gnome-panel (main) "[Hardy] Desktop Panel (Applications/Local/System) has a little gap to display menu options on screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180987
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180989 in avahi (main) "Please merge from debian unstable (0.6.22-1)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180989
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180787 in firestarter (universe) "firestarter crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_free_chain_with_offset()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180787
[12:20] <ailean> guys, can someone please have a look at bug #55709?
[12:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 55709 in language-pack-gnome-en-base ""Scots Gaelic" should be "Scottish Gaelic"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55709
[12:21] <ailean> also at #66901 as i wasn't sure which package was at fault
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #164850 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_list_prepend()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164850
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180993 in ubuntu "auto-closing popup windows swallow mouse click" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180993
[12:30] <seb128> persia: why pbuilder would trigger a gtk recent files update?
[12:31] <persia> seb128: gtk-recent-files doesn't ignore files touched in a chroot.
[12:31] <persia> I usually use sbuild, and can trigger there, but nenolod found it with pbuilder.
[12:31] <seb128> there is no gtk daemon running which indexes whatever file you create on your filesystem
[12:32] <seb128> I'm not sure to understand why a build would trigger that
[12:32] <persia> I don't really understand how it gets caused, only that once I applied nenolod's patch, it stopped crashing.
[12:33] <seb128> btw the comment about the bug not being frequent is based on the 0 duplicates
[12:34] <persia> Ah.  I doubt there are a lot of people who do frequent builds with a fair bit of RAM, but I could be mistaken.  I also suspect most of them, like me, wouldn't report it, assuming it to be a local problem due to a strange configuration.
[12:34] <seb128> ok
[12:35] <seb128> anyway my opinion is that it should be fixed for hardy but there is no hurry since it happens mosly in corner cases
[12:35] <seb128> so I'll wait a bit for upstream or debian to apply the patch
[12:43] <persia> No rush.  It doesn't break for me anymore.  I just wanted to explain that it was frequent in certain circumstances.
[12:48] <seb128> persia: ok, thanks
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #180997 in rhythmbox (main) "Have to reconnect the iPod (USB) to get recongnized by Rhytmbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180997
[13:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180999 in rhythmbox (main) "the artist/album view should be availbe when browsing mp3-players / devices" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180999
[13:11] <ubotu> New bug: #181000 in samba (main) "[gutsy-jeos + Vista RC1 beta host] samba randomly crashes the full guest OS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181000
[13:11] <ubotu> New bug: #181001 in libcairo (main) "fix sparc crash - proper align" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181001
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #174038 in dpkg "bad md5sum in Packages file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174038
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #181002 in openoffice.org (main) "unable to open document" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181002
[13:31] <jtt> hewus are you around
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #181006 in btanks (universe) "btanks need upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181006
[13:44] <ubotu> New bug: #181007 in libitpp (universe) "[SYNC] Debian Unstable sync of libitpp 4.0.1-3 requested" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181007
[13:44] <ubotu> New bug: #181008 in gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (universe) "Breaks Wavpack playback" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181008
[13:44] <ubotu> New bug: #181011 in ldap-auth-client (main) "dosent update /etc/ldap/ldap.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181011
[13:44] <ubotu> New bug: #181012 in ltsp (main) "lts.conf unionfs overlay does not work from old etherboot ROMs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181012
[13:45] <ubotu> New bug: #181010 in tracker (main) "[Hardy] tracker results window is empty despite search results being found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181010
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #181014 in ubuntu "package request for alex the allegator 4" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181014
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #181015 in gnome-system-tools (main) "time-admin gives always "The configuration could not be loaded", even if started as root" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181015
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #181016 in openoffice.org2 "formula wizard hangs in calc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181016
[14:11] <ubotu> New bug: #181017 in tftp-hpa (main) "package tftpd-hpa None failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 71" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181017
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #181018 in totem (main) "Totem movie player can't download codec" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181018
[14:20] <ubotu> New bug: #181021 in ubuntu "Acer 5920-6470 sound - left speaker OOS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181021
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #181024 in kdbg (universe) "Please merge kdbg 2.10-1 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181024
[14:40] <ubotu> New bug: #181025 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org-style-tango broken dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181025
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #181026 in vipec (universe) "Debian watch file doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181026
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #181028 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "sun-java6 should provide java5-runtime, java6-runtime" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181028
[15:01] <ubotu> New bug: #181029 in scim-bridge (universe) "[FTBFS] scim-bridge (0.4.14-1) fails to build in hardy" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181029
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #181030 in evince (main) "one page of PDF document will not print" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181030
[15:35] <ubotu> New bug: #181034 in mc (universe) "mc compare directories (thorough) thinks empty files are different" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181034
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #181033 in rhythmbox (main) "All radiochannels and podfeeds gone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181033
[15:37] <bddebian> Boo
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #181038 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all (main) "Spanish item translation in help menu missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181038
[16:00] <ubotu> New bug: #181040 in xfce4-notes-plugin (main) "Please merge xfce4-notes-plugin 1.6.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181040
[16:00] <ubotu> New bug: #181041 in ubuntu "typing break not working (Hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181041
[16:00] <ubotu> New bug: #181042 in gnome-games (main) "Not a bug!!! Can't reset scores in Mahjongg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181042
[16:05] <ubotu> New bug: #181043 in pidgin (main) ""o" open box log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181043
[16:05] <ubotu> New bug: #181044 in metalog (universe) "Debian watch file doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181044
[16:11] <ubotu> New bug: #181046 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "gnome desktop won't display after 2nd reboot after upgrade from 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181046
[16:15] <ubotu> New bug: #181047 in nautilus (main) "chews 100% of the cpu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181047
[16:16] <Pici> I tried chewing 100% of my cpu once....
[16:17] <hggdh> Pici: did it taste good, at least?
[16:18] <Pici> hggdh: Once I grabbed some salsa, yes.
[16:18] <hggdh> :-)
[16:19] <hggdh> Nautilus has a crash recovery in -- if it fails, the crash routine re-schedules the failed thingy
[16:19] <hggdh> so... 100% CPU, on some cases
[16:20] <Pici> Interesting.
[16:21] <hggdh> yeah... see bug 107253 for another example
[16:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107253 in nautilus "'#' in the alt-F2 box crashes nautilus" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107253
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #181019 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "displayconfig-gtk crashed with IndexError in getSize() again (dup-of: 148056)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181019
[16:37] <ubotu> New bug: #180376 in oggconvert (universe) "oggconvert crashed with TypeError in _update_progressbar() (dup-of: 180172)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180376
[16:56] <ubotu> New bug: #181049 in ubuntu-meta (main) "save-as dialog removes focus from filename when changing directories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181049
[16:57] <ubotu> New bug: #30513 in xscreensaver "Screensaver causing monitor crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30513
[16:58] <ubotu> New bug: #180402 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in gdk_event_apply_filters() (dup-of: 179444)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180402
[16:58] <ubotu> New bug: #181048 in bbppp (universe) "Debian watch file doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181048
[16:58] <ubotu> New bug: #181050 in thunderbird (main) "selected text in thunderbird search isn't replaced when typing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181050
[17:01] <ubotu> New bug: #181051 in ubuntu "Gnome dist-upgrade fails when packages could not be authenticated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181051
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #181053 in ubuntu "tachyon raytracer needs packaging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181053
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #181055 in ubuntu "Evolution "Crashes" when Using The "Search" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181055
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #181052 in nautilus (main) "right click in -places- directly opens " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181052
[17:40] <ubotu> New bug: #179882 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_prepend()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179882
[17:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180925 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in gnome_settings_daemon_new() (dup-of: 178326)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180925
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #179874 in aptitude (main) "aptitude upgrade crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179874
[17:47] <ubotu> New bug: #181056 in kopete (main) "system locks when i unhide kopete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181056
[17:47] <ubotu> New bug: #181057 in ubuntu ""Del"-key doesn't work on Acer extensa 5220" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181057
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180647 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_get_toplevel() (dup-of: 179185)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180647
[17:57] <ubotu> New bug: #180899 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 176878)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180899
[17:57] <ubotu> New bug: #181058 in debian-installer (main) "preseed installation: root-password-crypted ! doesn't work as intened" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181058
[18:34] <ubotu> New bug: #181067 in firefox (main) "black screen when changing apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181067
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #181068 in miro (universe) "miro.real crashed with SystemError in MozillaBrowser() on PPC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181068
[18:42] <ubotu> New bug: #181066 in libdb-je-java (universe) "Please move libdb-je-java to multiverse" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181066
[18:42] <ubotu> New bug: #181070 in thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird's throdder perpetually circle when feeds check at startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181070
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[19:06] <ubotu> New bug: #181079 in usbmount (universe) "hardy does not automatically mount inserted USB flash drive with HFS+ partitions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181079
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #181080 in kaffeine (main) "xine crashes on start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181080
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #181081 in linux (main) "r8169 module for Ethernet controller doesn't work well with hardy heron kernel 2.6.24" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181081
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[19:45] <ubotu> New bug: #181085 in tomboy (main) "[gutsy-proposed] updated security package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181085
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[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #174941 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in i830_free_memory()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174941
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[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #181100 in ubuntu "wrong language in input field in login screen and the Change Language feature  is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181100
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #181101 in ubuntu "Hardy: new 2.6.24 'power_supply' interface confuses HAL (sees duplicate batteries)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181101
[21:10] <ubotu> New bug: #181103 in firefox (main) "RSS TOOLBAR:  Planet Ubuntu links are hooped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181103
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #181104 in gauche-gtk (universe) "Library built for old version of Gauche" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181104
[21:30] <bdmurray> bug 181101 is probably a duplicate
[21:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 181101 in ubuntu "Hardy: new 2.6.24 'power_supply' interface confuses HAL (sees duplicate batteries)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181101
[21:34] <thekorn> hey bdmurray, thanks for all your work on commandline.py and the documentation
[21:35] <ubotu> New bug: #181106 in kdeutils (main) "KGPG requires Konsole" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181106
[21:41] <bdmurray> thekorn: No problem!  Hopefully it will be easier for people to use now.
[21:43] <thekorn> bdmurray, yep, fixed the strange "no cookie-file found" output issue in my .text.dev branch
[21:44] <bdmurray> thekorn: right, I just pulled that and tested it.  thanks!  Do you think buginfo really needs --bugnr ?
[21:44] <bdmurray> it seems like buginfo 12345 would be easier
[21:44] <thekorn> no, not really,
[21:44] <thekorn> yes, sounds good
[21:45] <stgraber> thekorn: hi, did you do any progress on the blueprint implementation in p-l-b ?
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #181109 in linux (main) "2.6.24-3-generic firmware not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181109
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #181110 in ubuntu "Can not unmount USB volume, if some file was opened from it and the used application is still running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181110
[21:47] <thekorn> stgraber, mhhh, i think i forgot to push my recent changes
[21:48] <thekorn> will do it tomorrow, as these changes are on another pc
[21:48] <stgraber> ok, thanks (your last commit to this branch was 14weeks ago)
[21:49] <thekorn> och
[21:50] <bdmurray> thekorn: With the +text branch I get quite a few "unable to parse '%s'" warnings when using bugnumbers
[21:52] <thekorn> bdmurray, hmm, I will try to find a way to eliminate these warnings in bug{info,helper,numbers}
[21:53] <bdmurray> thekorn: are status, importance, etc being parsed?
[21:56] <thekorn> that's one of the things i do not like in the current version of bugnumbers:
[21:56] <thekorn> +bugs-text does not provide such information
[21:56] <thekorn> but bugnumbers/helper needs it,
[21:57] <thekorn> so i added a "filter-function" which converts each Buginfo-object into a Bug-object
[21:57] <thekorn> but this needs to parse the /+text page of a bug
[21:58] <thekorn> this means a lot of extra http calls
[21:59] <thekorn> the warnings you discribed are from py-lp-bugs which is unable to parse status,... out of /+bugs-text
[22:00] <bdmurray> okay, so bughelper and bugnumbers look for status and importance even if they are not filtering on it is this right?
[22:00] <thekorn> yeah, this filter is currently always set
[22:01] <thekorn> bughelper needs bug.sourcepackage to find a clue file
[22:01] <ubotu> New bug: #181111 in totem (main) "Totem shows message warning when started" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181111
[22:01] <thekorn> and bugnumbers needs status,... to avoid output like [Bug 123456 unknown/unknown] - unknown
[22:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123456 in xine-lib "podcast crashes amarok" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123456
[22:02] <bdmurray> right, I want to think about this a bit and talk about it on the mailing list
[22:03] <bdmurray> I can see why bugnumbers could only return *numbers* but having the status and importance are useful
[22:04] <thekorn> sure, i'm also planning to explain the huge changes in .text.dev on the list
[22:04] <bdmurray> If you think removing them is a good idea . . .
[22:05] <thekorn> what about a new output-format, like
[22:05] <thekorn> ./bugnumbers -p bughelper --format=numbers
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #181114 in linux-meta (main) "virtual terminals and dpms resume video scrambled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181114
[22:05] <thekorn> which would only return a plain list of bugnumbers?
[22:06] <bdmurray> yeah, that might make sense.  I have also thought about a --url format as when I run it I want urls but not html markup
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #181117 in thunar (main) "Thunar does not show if drive is mounted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181117
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #181119 in xevil (universe) "segfaults on Show Controls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181119
[22:16] <bdmurray> the default format also seems to have changed a bit for bugnumbers output
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #181120 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "[gutsy] snd_bt_sco unusable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181120
[22:24] <bdmurray> thekorn: is "no function 'data' found in 'plain.bugnumbers'" expected?
[22:27] <thekorn> bdmurray, no,
[22:27] <thekorn> can you give me a way to reproduce it? - I dont' get such errors
[22:29] <bdmurray> thekorn: I used bugnumbers -p linux-source-2.6.22
[22:29] <bdmurray> however that takes quite a bit
[22:34] <thekorn> bdmurray, ok, i try to reproduce this,
[22:35] <bdmurray> thekorn: it might be faster with -p linux but I'm not certain if that will return the error yet
[22:35] <thekorn> I just added "--format=url" and "--format=numbers" options to bugnumbers, it is in bughelepr/text.dev
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #181122 in cupsys (main) "init script should have a "Should-Start: avahi"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181122
[22:43] <bdmurray> thekorn: awesome, thanks!
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #181121 in xscreensaver (main) "glplanet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181121
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #181127 in ubuntu "Fonts in KDE4 are horribly (hardy-heron)!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181127
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #181128 in epiphany-browser (main) "clicking on a link to a document does not open it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181128
[23:05] <ubotu> New bug: #181129 in sane-frontends (universe) "xsane fails to find scanner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181129
[23:15] <thekorn> bdmurray, "no function 'data' found in 'plain.bugnumbers'" - is a verry confusing message,
[23:15] <thekorn> btu i think i fixed it in text.dev rev 99
[23:15] <thekorn> text.dev of py-lp-bugs
[23:16] <bdmurray> right, I'll pull that then.  thanks again!
[23:16] <ubotu> New bug: #181130 in rarian (main) "Please sponsor rarian 0.7.1 to Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181130
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[02:03] <mamarley> https://imgur.com/a/fLYIEJA O.o
[02:06] <genii> Looks like a nice box
[02:07] <genii> Did you install lowlatency on purpose?
[02:11] <mamarley> genii: It was more to indicate I had already upgraded to Groovy than about the box, but it is a NUC8i7bek.  You saw the processor, and it also has Iris Plus 655 graphics and 128MB of EDRAM.  I did install lowlatency on purpose, and what I'm running right now is a custom-built 5.7-rc3 with https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~ickle/linux-2.6/log/?h=wip-rps (which is itself derived from drm-tip) merged.  That branch contains a major change in how
[02:11] <mamarley> the iGPU clocking is done that significantly improves performance on large displays like 3840x2160 while somehow improving power consumption as well.
[02:12] <mamarley> That came as a result of me filing https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/1698, which was due to a performance regression I noted between 5.6 and 5.7.
[02:14] <genii> Cool
[02:17] <genii> My newer laptop has that GPU
[02:18] <genii> I'm running stock 20.04 on it righ now
[02:26] <mamarley> For me, this setup replaced a Skylake i5 desktop.  It is just a little more powerful on the CPU and uses less power going full-tilt than the old one did at screen-on idle.
[02:26] <mamarley> At screen-off idle, it uses so little power that the wattage indicator on the UPS reads off-scale low!
[02:41] <valorie> nice
[10:06] <blaze> gerbil?
[10:11] <RikMills> should probably change that :P
[10:11] <blaze> :D
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
 Fwd from nggraham: 5.69 refactored the overlaysheet substantially and it causes quite a few regressions that have been fixed in 5.70
 Fwd from nggraham: If it were me, I'd skip 5.69 for that reason and just got straight to 5.70
 @Santa ^^
 https://i.imgur.com/xqNQ0q0.png
 In case anyone want to try VenToy, Kubuntu 20.04 requires the beta release: https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.08beta2
 It is really slick!
 Oooooooooooooooooooh
 Unpack the .gz file, CD into ventoy-1.0.08b2, and run sudo ./Ventoy2Disk.sh -i /dev/sdx    <—- where sdx is you usb drive.
 sounds like something popey and wimpress would love
 @DarinMiller going to post that on the testing group?
 sure :)
 I think I need to file a bug against KDE Partition Manager for not recognizing exfat support built into the kernel.  exfat-fuse is required to format a partition in partition manager. I would think exfat-fuse should not be required, no?
 I thought so
 @DarinMiller does it work if you install exfat-utils without exfat-fuse?
 good call, just exfat-utils is required
 annoyingly exfat-utils recommends exfat-fuse :(
 exactly
 maybe that is more of the bug now
 creating the bug report now... but is that now an exfat-utils bug?
 well, if that recommends is not superfluous, and actually not good for users, then I would say so. i.e. a packaging bug
 it obviously made sense before the kernel support
 agreed.
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420723
 I think it needs the exfat-utils even for kernel support, but could be wrong
 I suspect you are correct, but I wanted to raise the question to verify assumptions.
 Yep, you were correct.  exfat-utils is required but not exfat-fuse.
[21:41] <genii> mamarley: is graphics-drivers still being updated, or is it just being rolled into the normal repos now?
[21:42] <genii> ( seing a user complaing about vulcan problems but apparenlt no later driver ther, or apparenly for 20.04 either)


[16:20] <CarstenG> Hi all
[16:20] <hannie> hey CarstenG
[16:21] <hannie> I was just going to mail you that I also succeeded in
[16:21] <hannie> catchint the U1 sync notification in a screenshot
[16:21] <CarstenG> :-)
[16:21] <hannie> I had to do it in a split second
[16:21] <CarstenG> I just saw your updated root-directrories figure.
[16:22] <hannie> What do you think of it?
[16:23] <CarstenG> Well, it would be ok so, but I had another imagination in mind...
[16:24] <hannie> you mean making the page bigger?
[16:24] <hannie> Then it won't fit anymore
[16:24] <CarstenG> You can resize the document page so that the symbols fit in completely without moving them
[16:25] <hannie> too much work to find out how.... ;)
[16:26] <hannie> Does the German language also have such long words? I am currently inseerting \\- all over the place
[16:26] <CarstenG> just see my email with two screenshots of my inkscape window...
[16:27] <hannie> I will have a look
[16:27] <hannie> *inserting
[16:28] <CarstenG> email is out.
[16:28] <hannie> I will upload u1-sync-notification and nl.po in a minute
[16:28] <CarstenG> Well, the \\- ...
[16:29] <hannie> I sent Kevin a list of long words with hyphens so he can add them to the macro
[16:30] <CarstenG> Normally LaTeX will break the word automatically according the language rules.
[16:30] <hannie> I wish LaTeX was that intelligent. Unfortunately it isn't
[16:30] <hannie> Not for the Dutch language that is
[16:31] <CarstenG> Is there still an example, where the breaking is not correct and where you not yet inserted a manually \\- ?
[16:32] <hannie> there are more than 20 words I had to add a hyphen to
[16:33] <hannie> e.g. pakketbeheersystemen
[16:34] <CarstenG> wich page?
[16:34] <hannie> 126
[16:34] <hannie> It almost touches the marginnote
[16:35] <hannie> Also: page 129: gebruikersgemeenshap
[16:36] <hannie> I am going to upload now, because I am finished editing
[16:39] <CarstenG> one moment
[16:39] <hannie> ok
[16:39] <CarstenG> the word "gebruikersgemeenshap" is not yet with an manually \\- in my po file.
[16:40] <CarstenG> And in the PDF it is broken ok
[16:40] <CarstenG> it looks ok as it is.
[16:40] <hannie> no, that's because I have just changed it and not yet uploaded to LP (going to do this shortly)
[16:40] <hannie> hey thorwil
[16:41] <CarstenG> gebrui-kersgemeenschap,
[16:41] <thorwil> hello!
[16:41] <hannie> thorwil, have you already made the front page for the Dutch precise-e2 translation?
[16:41] <CarstenG> I made the nl PDF with rev 92
[16:41] <manualbot> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/revision/92 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual -r 92
[16:42] <CarstenG> and there it looks ok for me, broken after gebrui-
[16:42] <hannie> CarstenG, I think I made it gebruikers-gemeenschap
[16:42] <CarstenG> kersgemeenschap
[16:42] <CarstenG> ah ok
[16:42] <hannie> not sure, I have to look
[16:42] <thorwil> hannie: no
[16:43] <hannie> thorwil, I suppose Kevin is going to ask you
[16:43] <hannie> We are almost finished
[16:43] <CarstenG> ok, I'm out for some minutes...
[16:43] <CarstenG> brb
[16:43] <hannie> cya, CarstenG
[16:45] <thorwil> hmm, no dutch in precise first edition?
[16:45] <hannie> no, it is precise-e2
[16:45] <thorwil> that i know, i just looked for the strings
[16:46] <hannie> I am almost done with the uploading of po and screenshots
[16:46] <hannie> latest modifications that is
[16:46] <godbyk> hannie: I'll add those words you emailed me to the hyphenation list and show you how you can add more words.
[16:46] <thorwil> if you paste the strings for the titlepage, i can create one immediately. though the lulu cover has to wait until Kevin can tell me the measurements
[16:47] <hannie> hey godbyk that's great
[16:47] <godbyk> thorwil: In addition to nl, we'll need French (fr) title pages for both precise-e2 and quantal.
[16:47] <hannie> thorwil, I will send you the text in a few minutes
[16:47] <godbyk> thorwil: I think Spanish (es) and Slovenian (sl) are both nearly ready for precise-e2, as well.   Once I get that done, things will start happening a bit faster.
[16:47] <hannie> godbyk, I hope you don't mind me contacting thorwil directly ;)
[16:48] <godbyk> hannie: Not at all. :)
[16:48] <godbyk> I'll be back in just a bit.
[16:48] <hannie> Let me finish the last screenshot and I will send the front page text to thorwil
[16:49] <hannie> cya godbyk
[16:49] <thorwil> hannie: paste into pm, please, no email
[16:49] <hannie> I will
[17:05] <CarstenG> I’m back
[17:06] <CarstenG> Only as idea for the future...
[17:07] <CarstenG> Should we include the cover text for lulu also to the pot file so that it is translatable over LP?
[17:08] <hannie> CarstenG, I have uploaded the latest changes and sent frontpage text to thorw
[17:09] <CarstenG> Yes, I saw it
[17:09] <hannie> I will have a look at your inkscape recommendations later
[17:09] <thorwil> inkscape recommendations?
[17:09] <hannie> Time to relax, I like to play 1404 :)
[17:10] <hannie> thorwil, yes, I had to adjust the root-directories.svg in inkscape
[17:11] <hannie> And I'll have a glass of wine. see you, guys
[17:11] <CarstenG> See you Hannie
[17:16] <thorwil> godbyk: fr is already present, including a pdf, but it seems i never touched those
[17:17] <godbyk> thorwil: Yeah, the French translation team did that.
[17:17] <godbyk> Translators get all excited and start translating everything they can get their hands on. :-P
[17:17] <thorwil> heh
[17:19]  * thorwil nominates "L'équipe" for coolest word for team
[17:20] <godbyk> heh
[17:24] <thorwil> nl and tweaked fr pushed
[17:24] <godbyk> thorwil: Thanks!
[17:25] <godbyk> I may have a couple more for you in the not-so-distant future. I think we've done Spanish already. But Slovenian is also nearly complete, I believe.
[17:26] <thorwil> i recently worked with git a bit. suddenly just commiting after making changes feesl odd
[17:26] <thorwil> feels, even
[17:28] <thorwil> today i used "bzr log | grep -A 5 Thorsten" to see what the heck i did or did not do in the precise-e2 branch. apparently bzr log has no filtering per commiter(?)
[17:29] <CarstenG> Thorsten, what is with the nl pdf file ?
[17:29] <godbyk> Yeah, I've been using git for most of the other code bases I work with lately, too.
[17:30] <godbyk> CarstenG: What about it?
[17:30] <thorwil> CarstenG: in the past i have been lazy ... no wait, i always wanted to remind godbyk how those dependent files shouldn't be there ^_^
[17:30] <godbyk> thorwil: Ha!
[17:30] <CarstenG> I dont see it in the branch :-)
[17:31] <godbyk> Yeah, I originally added those files because they took forever for inkscape to convert from svg to pdf on my computer.
[17:31] <godbyk> But nowadays it isn't really a problem.
[17:31] <godbyk> So we could uncomment some code in the Makefile so that the title pages get generated each time the manual is generated.
[17:31] <godbyk> It'll slow things down slightly each run, but it does mean less clutter in the bzr repository.
[17:32] <thorwil> i'm all for it
[17:32] <thorwil> especially if you get a .pdf from a translation team and then don't know if its with text converted to paths or not ...
[17:32] <CarstenG> well, the pdf files will not be soooo a big problem there, or?
[17:33] <thorwil> CarstenG: they just add things somebody has to check at some point
[17:34] <godbyk> It does make it more difficult in the sense that Thorsten has to keep track of which title pages he created and which other people fiddled with.
[17:34] <thorwil> is the pdf present? up-to-date? are all of them with text converted to paths?
[17:34] <CarstenG> the title pages are nearly static, so to create them automatically each make run is wasting time...
[17:34] <godbyk> CarstenG: They wouldn't be regenerated each run.
[17:35] <godbyk> CarstenG: make should detect when the svg has changed and only regenerate the PDF on that occasion.
[17:35] <thorwil> i doubt anyone will notice, as the export is near instantaneous
[17:35] <CarstenG> Quote: from you :-) "So we could uncomment some code in the Makefile so that the title pages get generated each time the manual is generated."
[17:36] <CarstenG> a ok, if make can check this, the it is ok...
[17:36] <CarstenG> then...
[17:36] <godbyk> CarstenG: Yeah, I had to think it through a bit. It's been a while. ;-)
[17:37] <thorwil> bzr log is better than i thought after the first misleading search hits: bzr log --match-author Thorsten


[01:37] <agrestringere> exit
[08:54] <tjaalton> hmm, wonder if the new -modesetting release would fix bug 1098639
[09:02] <mlankhorst> to the buildmobile!
[09:04] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: just checking; you noticed that I reset the xorg-server branches?-)
[09:04] <mlankhorst> yes
[09:04] <tjaalton> good
[09:08] <mlankhorst> I'm waiting for rc2 release before I start on it again
[09:08] <tjaalton> and then to the staging ppa?
[09:09] <mlankhorst> yes
[09:12] <tjaalton> great
[09:34] <tjaalton> erm, the bug -modesetting might fix is actually bug 1065288
[09:39] <Chipaca> hi guys. Today my intel-ironlake-driven 1920x1200 displayport monitor doesn't get any signal nine times out of ten i change something with xrandr. Is that a known issue, or should I file a new bug?
[09:41] <tjaalton> Chipaca: and worked perfectly yesterday?
[09:41] <Chipaca> tjaalton: well. it failed less often; i've had to drop to console and frob xrandr before now
[09:42] <Chipaca> but it would just take the once, or very rarely the second time
[09:42] <Chipaca> and i'd be able to come back into x, turn off eDP1 and carry on using DP2 happily
[09:42] <tjaalton> so what changed?
[09:42] <Chipaca> today the only time (out of ~10) i got it working on the console, came back to X, turned off eDP1, and lost DP2 again
[09:43] <Chipaca> to be clear, X thinks it's working, the monitor drops into "no signal so power save" mode
[09:43] <Chipaca> tjaalton: you tell me; it's raring :)
[09:43] <tjaalton> bad cable?
[09:43] <tjaalton> well it's hard to guess what you've done to your system..
[09:44] <Chipaca> tjaalton: what do you mean?
[09:45] <Chipaca> I haven't done anything to it other than update it
[09:45] <tjaalton> exaclty
[09:45] <tjaalton> so what changed?
[09:46] <Chipaca> tjaalton: x, the kernel, libc, python, compiz, dbus? maybe
[09:46] <Chipaca> not sure about x either, but i think so
[09:46] <Chipaca> tjaalton: you seriously expect me to keep track?
[09:46] <mlankhorst> you expect us to keep track what changes on your system? :p
[09:46] <tjaalton> Chipaca: check dpkg.log..
[09:47] <tjaalton> the xserver hasn't changed, -intel driver has seen minor updates, kernel otoh..
[09:47] <Chipaca> mlankhorst: if you change something in the distribution that breaks my system, hell yes i do :)
[09:47] <mlankhorst> unfortunately the software we work on can change one very hardware combination
[09:47] <mlankhorst> so quite impossible :P
[09:48] <tjaalton> you can be running an obsolete raring, and then get a months worth of updates one day
[09:48] <mlankhorst> could you try an older kernel perhaps?
[09:49] <Chipaca> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1562150/
[09:49] <Chipaca> that's dpkg.log
[09:49] <Chipaca> last known working with this monitor was the 21st
[09:50] <mlankhorst> i it was a software thing, it was probably either xserver-xorg-video-intel, or linux-image, so check those ;P
[09:50] <mlankhorst> that site seems to cause my poor firefox to hang
[09:51] <tjaalton> downgrade -intel
[09:53] <bryce> Chipaca, see /topic
[12:11] <mlankhorst> so many libdrm dupes about 2.4.39-0ubuntu1 :/
[12:23]  * mlankhorst eyes Sarvatt suspiciously
[12:31] <tjaalton> what dupes?
[12:32] <mlankhorst> about failing to upgrade because xorg-edgers had a libdrm with the same version as quantal
[12:32] <mlankhorst>  * [new tag]         mesa-9.0.2 -> mesa-9.0.2
[12:32] <mlankhorst> \o/
[12:36] <tjaalton> oh that
[12:36] <tjaalton> whee
[12:36] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: are you still working on mesa-master for raring, or should we upload that version to raring first with the size reduction patches I did for the lts-stack enabled?
[12:36] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: I'm ok with uploading 9.0.2 first
[12:36] <tjaalton> no immediate rush to get master there
[12:36] <mlankhorst> ok
[12:43] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: btw you can just override LLVM_CONFIG with ./configure ac_cv_path_LLVM_CONFIG=llvm-config-3.2
[12:44] <tjaalton> so no need to patch it?
[12:44] <tjaalton> sounds good
[12:49] <mlankhorst> it grabs whatever you put after ./configure and puts it in environment, so you end up with this (I force ignored build-deps because I'm on precise backport stack)
[12:49] <mlankhorst> checking for llvm-config... (cached) llvm-config-3.2
[12:49] <mlankhorst> ./configure: line 22091: llvm-config-3.2: command not found
[12:50] <tjaalton> ok
[12:52] <mlankhorst> it's almost the same as doing ac_cv_path_LLVM_CONFIG=llvm-config-3.2 ./configure, but when you reconfigure it will remember to pass it again :)
[13:53] <mlankhorst> configure: error: LLVM 3.1 is required to build the radeonsi driver.
[13:59] <tjaalton> right
[13:59] <tjaalton> you need to force it for now
[13:59] <tjaalton> with master it doesn't matter
[14:00] <tjaalton> since the backend got removed
[14:00] <mlankhorst> yeah sadly
[14:00] <mlankhorst> is there no way to convince the llvm maintainer to take on the radeonsi patches?
[14:01] <tjaalton> tstellar is on it
[14:01] <tjaalton> don't think it's ready for llvm yet
[14:01] <tjaalton> and we won't get a snapshot anyway
[14:01] <tjaalton> unless it's a separate one-off package for raring
[14:02] <mlankhorst> we should
[14:03] <mlankhorst> I would rather not remove support for recent cards that worked before
[14:04] <tjaalton> fsvo worked
[14:07] <mlankhorst> indeed but still better than llvmpipe :P
[16:05] <mlankhorst> weird
[16:05] <mlankhorst> I have a diff to src/gallium/auxiliary/Makefile that according to git doesn't exist..


[03:01] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: thanks for the merge
[10:38]  * bluesabre wonders if xfce4-session 4.12.1 will land in exp today, since he needs to rebuild -session anyway it seems, https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce-announce/2015-March/000401.html
[12:31] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, Have you experienced this? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1426664
[12:32] <brainvvash> incompatible gtk theme?
[12:34] <flexiondotorg> brainvvash, Interesting idea.
[12:55] <ochosi> flexiondotorg: if you need hints, this is how we do it for the 2.0 version of the greeter (scroll back in git time to see what we had for 1.8 and below) https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/gtk-3.0/apps/lightdm-gtk-greeter.css
[12:56] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I've tried several themes. Same issue with all of them.
[12:56] <elfy> ochosi: just in case you happen across things - dailies are fubar - known issues with that
[12:56] <flexiondotorg> elfy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-vesa/+bug/1432899
[12:57] <elfy> flexiondotorg: thanks
[12:58] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Confirm that one ;)
[12:58] <elfy> bbl
[13:03] <ochosi> flexiondotorg: so it doesn't even work with greybird?
[13:03] <ochosi> elfy: thanks! good to know
[13:04] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I'll test greybird.
[13:04] <ochosi> well that's really the only theme you should test with :)
[13:05] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, It is a bit limiting to have a themeable greeter that only work with one theme though ;)
[13:06] <ochosi> hehe, well fix your themes then ;)
[13:06] <ochosi> also, it *should* look ok by default without any theming
[13:06] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Numix doesn't work. Ambiance doesn't work.
[13:06] <ochosi> numix should work too, it has pretty ok greeter support
[13:07] <ochosi> so i guess the conclusion to draw from that is that it is not a theme issue
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, When I say Numix doesn't work.
[13:08] <ochosi> yup
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, What I actually mean is the initial screen is white, clicking then repaints and you see a perfectly correct greeter.
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Just a blank white screen. No decorations or anything.
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, And a mouse cursor.
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Click and everything appears normal.
[13:09] <ochosi> right, no clue what that could be, i've never seen anything like that before
[13:10] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1426664
[13:10] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I've back ported lightdm-gtk-greeter to the Ubuntu MATE 14.04 PPA. Hence the reference to 14.04.
[13:11] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I've not actually seen it on Ubuntu MATE 15.04 (others have). But I can reproduce on my Arch Linux machine since lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.0 arrived.
[13:11] <ochosi> wait, you've backported the 2.0 greeter to 14.04?
[13:12] <ochosi> what does "backport" mean exactly? did you check whether it was using any symbols that are too new for gtk3.10 (or whatever 14.04 was shipping with) ?
[13:13] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Took the dsc and built under Trusty.
[13:13] <brainvvash> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/43999
[13:13] <ochosi> btw, no need to ping me all the time, i also follow this channel if you don't
[13:17] <flexiondotorg> suggest defining the active-monitor in /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf to work around the issue.
[13:17] <flexiondotorg> *suggests
[13:20] <ochosi> right, well i don't have trusty around here so i can't even try to reproduce
[13:20] <ochosi> and i'm not sure i'd wanna spend my time on it, LTS releases are supposed to only get bugfix updates for a reason (stability)
[13:21] <ochosi> otherwise we could just do rolling release
[13:21] <knome> well unless there's a very good reason to do the backport
[13:21] <ochosi> yeah, which in the case of the greeter - there isn't
[13:21] <knome> nope, just saying :)
[13:23] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Also affects 15.04
[13:23] <ochosi> wait, before you said you can't reproduce it on 15.04?
[13:23] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I can't because I don't have a dual monitor setup running 15.04.
[13:23] <flexiondotorg> But I will try a live iso on my work computer later.
[13:24] <flexiondotorg> The reason for backporting lightdm-gtk-greeter to 14.04 was so the a11y features work correctly.
[13:26] <ochosi> right, what doesn't work exactly in 14.04?
[13:26] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1426664
[13:27] <ochosi> that is the bugreport you linked to before
[13:27] <ochosi> what a11y features aren't working in 14.04
[13:34] <flexiondotorg> Using lightdm-gtk-greeter as shipped in the official 14.04 archive, you can enable screen reading but it is "killed" once you log in.
[13:35] <flexiondotorg> Using lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.9.0 or higher and Orca from the accessibility PPA resolves that issue.
[13:35] <flexiondotorg> Now, regarding the white screen. I have just reproduced that on my dual screen workstation at work using Ubuntu MATE 15.04.
[14:41] <ochosi> flexiondotorg: right, i guess screen reading could be added to the session startup for those who need it though as a workaround, no?
[14:42] <flexiondotorg> Well, orca and onboard are not session based. They are activated via gsettings triggers.
[14:43] <flexiondotorg> Via keybindings and display manager handoff.
[15:44] <ochosi> meh, our file chooser has weird sorting by defualt
[15:45] <ochosi> folders are shuffled into the other files
[15:47] <ochosi> (in gtk3)
[16:03] <elfy> hi slickymaster
[16:03] <elfy> work
[16:10] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy
[17:37] <krytarik> Unit193: Just done overhauling the docs' translation script too now, as well as doing some more changes to the credits one - both are following the same pattern now too:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/P2HCrnI3WksfU0ub73W4/
[17:44] <Unit193> krytarik: WHY YOU PING ME?!  I  NO NO HERE!
[17:44] <Unit193> OH wait.
[17:44] <krytarik> :P
[17:45] <Unit193> translate() { => translate () {  Eh. :/
[17:46] <knome> haha
[17:49] <Unit193> krytarik: What editor do you use?
[17:49] <krytarik> Vim, usually.
[17:51] <Unit193> I flip between nano and vim, the syntax coloring in nano colors foo() as a function but not foo ()
[17:51] <knome> nano is better.
[17:51] <knome> ;)
[17:51] <krytarik> Unit193: Yeah, I noticed that too - but Nano is wrong there. :P
[19:50] <ali1234> one of my panels isn't accepting clicks at all
[19:50] <ali1234> only one of four though, its weird
[21:53] <bluesabre> flexiondotorg: saw that briefly when 2.0 was in development, interesting to see its return
[21:54] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, Settings active-monitor=0 seems to be a work around.
[21:54] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hello!
[21:55] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, The Arch Linux bug tracker references a patch they are waiting to see applied to trunk.
[21:56] <bluesabre> also good to know
[21:56] <bluesabre> Unit193: hey!