[02:28] <liuxg> I am now trying install libqofono-dev on my 16.04 desktop, however, I get the error like "
[02:28] <liuxg> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:28] <liuxg>  libqofono-dev : Depends: libqofono-qt5-0 (= 0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1) but 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:28] <liuxg> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.“  How can I resolve this issue.
[02:28] <liuxg> The log is here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24650416/
[02:31] <kenvandine> liuxg, apt-cache policy libqofono-qt5-0
[02:31] <liuxg> liuxg@liuxg:~$ apt-cache policy libqofono-qt5-0
[02:31] <liuxg> libqofono-qt5-0:
[02:31] <liuxg>   Installed: 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1
[02:31] <liuxg>   Candidate: 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1
[02:31] <liuxg>   Version table:
[02:31] <liuxg>  *** 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1 100
[02:31] <liuxg>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:31] <liuxg>      0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1 500
[02:31] <liuxg>         500 http://mirrors.aliyun.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
[02:32] <kenvandine> so you have a local build of that maybe?
[02:32] <liuxg> kenvandine thanks. the installation log is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24650416/
[02:32] <liuxg> kenvandine no, I do not have the a local copy of it. I think i used to install the phone SDK.
[02:33] <liuxg> kenvandine do you mean I need to remove it?
[02:33] <kenvandine> either that or there's something wrong with your mirror
[02:33] <kenvandine> yeah
[02:33] <kenvandine> remove that then it'll be fine
[02:33] <liuxg> kenvandine OK. I will have a try. I will switch a mirror. thanks
[02:34] <jamesh> the 0.90 release says it isn't from any of your registered repositories
[02:35] <kenvandine> hey jamesh
[02:35] <jamesh> hi kenvandine
[02:35] <liuxg> jamesh, then how can I correct the issue here?
[02:35] <jamesh> liuxg: by any chance did you have the stable-phone-overlay PPA installed, and then remove it?
[02:35] <kenvandine> liuxg, just remove libqofono-qt5-0
[02:35] <kenvandine> that's what i was thinking
[02:36] <kenvandine> but disabled now
[02:36] <DalekSec> Or apt-get install libqofono-qt5-0/xenial
[02:36] <kenvandine> i think the ubuntu sdk enabled that
[02:36] <jamesh> liuxg: "apt install libqofono-qt5-0=0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1" might let you proceed
[02:36] <jamesh> to downgrade that package
[02:36] <liuxg> jamesh, yes, I have the stable-phone-overlay ppa installed. so, it is good to remove it?
[02:37] <kenvandine> the annoying thing is ppa-purge doesn't work once you remove the ppa
[02:37] <jamesh> liuxg: it sounds like it has already been disabled: if it was active, I'd expect to see it mentioned in the "apt policy" output
[02:37] <kenvandine> i wish ppa-purge could clean up packages not from a currently enabled repository
[02:37] <DalekSec> apt list | grep ed,loc  could also see what else is local only.
[02:38] <liuxg> kenvandine I will do the purge as well, and see how it works :)
[02:39] <kenvandine> the purge won't work since the ppa is disabled already
[02:39] <kenvandine> that's what i find annoying about ppa-purge
[02:41] <liuxg> kenvandine I am trying to swith to the archive.ubuntu.com though it is slow here :)
[02:41] <kenvandine> or use your local mirror, depending on your country
[02:41] <jamesh> liuxg: I don't think your problem is about using a mirror of archive.ubuntu.com
[02:41] <kenvandine> the problem is from the ppa
[02:42] <liuxg> jamesh, so, I need to remove the stable-phone overlay ppa?
[02:42] <kenvandine> liuxg, looks like you already disabled that ppa
[02:42] <kenvandine> but you have packages installed from it
[02:42] <jamesh> liuxg: it sounds like you've already removed or disabled that PPA as a source.  But you've got packages from the PPA installed on your system
[02:43] <jamesh> which are newer than what you find in vanilla xenial
[02:45] <liuxg> jamesh, yes, it was disabled. how can I remove it?
[02:46] <kenvandine> liuxg, best bet is to re-enable the ppa then use ppa-purge to remove it
[02:46] <kenvandine> imo
[02:47] <liuxg> kenvandine  jamesh in fact, jamesh's command apt install libqofono-qt5-0=0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1 works :)
[02:47] <kenvandine> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay
[02:47] <kenvandine> after adding it again
[02:47] <kenvandine> liuxg, i mean in general, not just because of this package
[02:48] <kenvandine> i'm sure you have other packages with the same issue, you just haven't noticed yet
[02:48] <liuxg> kenvandine thanks. I will do that for sure.
[02:48] <kenvandine> clean up all the cruft :)
[02:48] <liuxg> kenvandine, yes, I think it is the trouble maker :)
[05:56] <oSoMoN> good Thursday everyone!
[07:08] <Trevinho> hi oSoMoN
[07:09] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN, Trevinho
[07:09] <Trevinho> hi didrocks
[07:09] <Trevinho> ça va?
[07:10] <didrocks> ça va bien, et toi ? :)
[07:12] <andyrock> morning
[07:12] <didrocks> hey andyrock
[07:16] <duflu> Ohayogogozaimasu, bonjour
[07:16] <duflu> Erm, Ohayogozaimasu
[07:17] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, didrocks, andyrock. Afternoon Trevinho
[07:19] <didrocks> Irassahaimasu
[07:19] <didrocks> or rather Irassahaimasssssssssssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!
[07:19] <didrocks> :)
[07:19]  * didrocks has heard that so many times with longer or shorter forms :p
[07:20] <duflu> And then people get lazy: maaasss. Maaaas
[08:01] <willcooke> change of plan, I'm here
[08:01] <willcooke> morning all
[08:03] <didrocks> good morning willcooke!
[08:05] <Laney> moin
[08:05] <Laney> just been up to the allotment
[08:06] <Laney> was trying to get there before it gets too hot to water
[08:06] <Laney> not sure I managed that /o\
[08:06] <oSoMoN> morning willcooke
[08:07] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:07] <didrocks> it's already 23°C here
[08:08] <Laney> /o\
[08:08] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:08] <Laney> you good?
[08:13] <didrocks> I'm great! Just wondering if I will be able to run today, I think it's a no :) you?
[08:13] <Laney> yeah, very good!
[08:14] <Laney> was quite nice to go up there early
[08:18] <didrocks> yeah, I imagine ;)
[08:18] <Laney> the actual watering took 45 minutes
[08:19] <Laney> we have more stuff than I thought
[08:19] <willcooke> Laney, do you have a tap on site?  Or a big butt. hurr hurr
[08:20] <Laney> yeah, both
[08:20] <willcooke> nice
[08:20] <Laney> hose doesn't reach all the way though
[08:20] <willcooke> Aldi have a deal on hose pipes atm
[08:20] <Laney> haha
[08:20] <willcooke> :)
[08:20] <Laney> sponsored content
[08:21] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:21] <seb128> hey didrocks Laney willcooke
[08:21] <Laney> might get a long reel though
[08:21] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:21] <willcooke> morning seb128
[08:21] <seb128> hey duflu
[08:21] <seb128> willcooke, didn't you say you were off until lunch today?
[08:21] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:21] <Laney> currently have to carefully waggle it around our neighbour's veg
[08:21] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:21] <willcooke> seb128, yeah, I got stood up
[08:21] <Laney> you good?
[08:21] <Laney> unreliable golf buddy?
[08:21] <willcooke> indeed
[08:21] <willcooke> :)
[08:22] <willcooke> and it's a reallllly nice day
[08:22] <seb128> yeah, played tennis yesterday in the end of afternoon, slept well, today is sunny
[08:22] <seb128> and is an holiday (which I split on today/tomorrow, taking hours as needed)
[08:22]  * duflu considers moving there. Wherever there is
[08:24] <Laney> sounds like most of europe atm :-)
[08:59] <duflu> koza: Did your crash in bluez-5.45 come with a readable stack trace?
[09:02] <koza> duflu, yes
[09:02] <duflu> koza: Can you share it (in case it's familiar)?
[09:03] <koza> duflu, sure, looking for it now
[09:05] <koza> duflu, http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=149148313524321&w=2
[09:05] <koza> duflu, +follow next-in-thread as well
[10:00] <duflu> koza: I could not find anything similar
[10:00] <duflu> But now, domestic duties
[11:04]  * Trevinho heads to the pool party... Catch you tomorrow (or later).
[11:04] <willcooke> see ya Trevinho
[11:06] <didrocks> Trevinho: does you really have to mention this to us? :p
[11:06]  * didrocks is eager to go to a swimming pool now
[11:14] <oSoMoN> bah, pool parties are overrated
[13:18] <Trevinho> I agree... But that's what we've here...
[13:18] <Trevinho> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9fO5o1xN/20170525_211619.jpg
[13:20] <didrocks> sad life :)
[14:55]  * willcooke relocates to the garden
[15:17] <willcooke> ha, Trello knows to automatically format "sudo foo bar baz" as monospace
[15:17] <Laney> win
[15:27] <kenvandine> lol
[15:27] <kenvandine> awesome
[15:36] <didrocks> I hope it's using ubuntu monospace or any freeda ligature coding one :)
[16:13] <jbicha> Laney: should we go ahead and merge LP: #1680008 ?
[16:14] <Laney> If you want
[16:15] <Laney> I didn't look at the actual change
[16:15] <Laney> So don't take that as me reviewing it
[16:15] <Laney> changing the order around is okay though
[16:24]  * oSoMoN 🠚 chiropractor
[16:41] <jbicha> willcooke: the remaining problem with LP: #1672424 is that gnome-software got stuck in phased-updates so it's not showing up in Software Updater (the only things that respects phasing)
[16:41] <jbicha> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
[16:42] <willcooke> jbicha, is this related to my card on general update notifications?
[16:42] <jbicha> we could ask bdmurray to phase it to 100% if we think the fixed issues are more important
[16:42] <jbicha> willcooke: yes, I'm replying here to your recent comment on trello
[16:43] <willcooke> jbicha, gotya.  So yeah, I can't put my finger on it, but it just "feels" like something isn't quite right with the notifier.
[16:43] <willcooke> Maybe it was from where security updates got applied automatically, and I'm just used to it popping up more
[16:44] <willcooke> or, mayyyyybe there is a little bug hidden away that we dont see because we're updating manually all the time
[16:44] <Laney> You could install 16.04.2 in a VM and see if you get notified
[16:44] <jbicha> willcooke: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[16:44] <willcooke> jbicha, *cough* 16.04 still
[16:44] <willcooke> my test machine has 17.10 though
[16:45] <willcooke> Laney, yeah, that's a good plan.  I'll set up one and just leave it running for a few weeks
[16:46] <jbicha> Laney: did you have something specific you wanted from me for the GNOME 3.26 trello card?
[16:47] <Laney> You might have an opinion
[16:47] <Laney> You might know something that weighs in one direction or another
[16:48] <jbicha> many apps should be pretty safe to update
[16:49] <jbicha> it's ones like gnome-shell, mutter, gnome-control-center, gnome-settings-daemon that could be trickier if they make changes that are more difficult for what we want to ship
[17:08] <jbicha> oh, we talked earlier about upgrades from 16.04 to 17.04 after 16.10 is EOL, see LP: #1692092
[19:35] <willcooke> night all
[22:54] <xnox> jbicha, but upgrade manager should know and handle this situation by upgrading people to 16.10 via old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:55] <jbicha> xnox: talk to bdmurray, but I think the intent is that the updates skip 16.10 completely!
[22:55] <xnox> intersting =) new stuff to me.
[22:56] <xnox> technically we should support that, cause we do support lts-to-lts. but mileage may vary.


 @ahoneybun [I think it builds fine. I have a different branch on my fork for a new PR.], clickable --arch=arm64 --ssh insert.pinephone.ip.here
 take in mind that you should have enabled ssh service and have the keys to allow access through ssh
 @UniversalSuperBox [Yeah!], that would be good news, would really be motivation to get the webapps notifications going
[02:38] <ubptgbot> Curtis Handy was added by: Curtis Handy
 @j2g2rp [take in mind that you should have enabled ssh service and have the keys to allow …], That's the thing I haven't found how to do thag
 *that
[05:46] <ubptgbot> u_id0 was added by: u_id0
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/VuD31zqa.png
 Hey can sonebody please tell me whats that weird icon next to ArtMark?
 @ahoneybun [That's the thing I haven't found how to do thag], to enable ssh you should open a terminal and type: … sudo service ssh start … this is for enable the ssh service. … You also have to create the keys in your computer because by default in ubuntu touch connection by ssh with password is disabled. … To generate keys you should on
[07:32] <ubptgbot> your computer open a terminal and type: … ssh-keygen … follow the steps. … After that you should open with plain text editor  id_rsa.pub from .ssh folder and copy the content to a plain file named authorized_keys then copy that file in to .ssh folder of your phone. … Once you followed those steps you would be able to enter through ssh.
 @ahoneybun [That's the thing I haven't found how to do thag], [Edit] to enable ssh you should open a terminal on your phone and type: … sudo service ssh start … this is for enable the ssh service. … You also have to create the keys in your computer because by default in ubuntu touch connection by ssh with password is disabled. … To generat
[07:33] <ubptgbot> e keys you should on your computer open a terminal and type: … ssh-keygen … follow the steps. … After that you should open with plain text editor  id_rsa.pub from .ssh folder and copy the content to a plain file named authorized_keys then copy that file in to .ssh folder of your phone. … Once you followed those steps you would be able to enter thro
[07:33] <ubptgbot> ugh ssh.
 http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/ssh.html
 @j2g2rp [to enable ssh you should open a terminal on your phone and type: … sudo service s …], You can also turn on ssh in UTTT and do ssh-copy-id on desktop
 @mrcyjanek [Hey can sonebody please tell me whats that weird icon next to ArtMark?], That is a nearby wireless display.
[07:56] <ubptgbot> Max Hudson was added by: Max Hudson
 @fredldotme [That is a nearby wireless display.], Ah, thanks
[08:42] <ubptgbot> KeiserZA was added by: KeiserZA
 Good day. I please need some help. Is there a way to install ub on a galaxy tab 2 gt5100?
[08:51] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> Hi i have a question how activate thé debugging session on ut ?
 @mariogrip [*should* be fixed now ish], hey Marius, you're probably aware, but on the off-chance you're not: the orientation-sensor is still broken today in edge (version 476, OnePlus 3)
 as is the proximity sensor
 @KeiserZA [Good day. I please need some help. Is there a way to install ub on a galaxy tab …], hello. Id it is not on this list, then no. https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 @KeiserZA [Good day. I please need some help. Is there a way to install ub on a galaxy tab …], [Edit] hello. If it is not on this list, then no. https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 Someone would have to port it first.
 @Yann Escarbassiere [Hi i have a question how activate thé debugging session on ut ?], Not sure what you mean. Are you talking about Webconsole debugger like in Firefox?
[09:30] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> No in chrome
[09:31] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> I need debugage usb  but i don't have the confirme Windows in ut
 okay
 to connect UT to a windwos machine over usb, you need to enable developer mode in UT system settings. To debug you would probably use ADB
 but I have never used that from a windows machine
[09:34] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> Yes but i dont have thé confirme window
[09:34] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> Im not  Windows i have ubuntuvdesktop
 oh okay :)
[09:35] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> How proceed ?
 so when are you expecting to see a confirmation window?
 Hang on. What device are you using? If you have a PinePhone, then connecting over usb and debugging with adb wont work I think
 that will only work on android-based UT devices
 what phone do you have?
[09:40] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/sAkjKRlp.png
[09:40] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> I have a one plus one
 that picture was very hard to see :(
 oh it is gone now
[09:42] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> yeah wait ^^'
 🆗
[09:42] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/iKa6vEH5.png
[09:42] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> in offline he detect my device but not possible to debug
 ah okay, now I am starting to understand what you're trying to do.
 I have never tried this.
[09:45] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> yes sorry I was not very precise ...
 dont worry  :)
 what, if I may ask, do you want to debug exactly?
 I would think adb has all the debugging options you'd want
[09:50] <ubptgbot> <Yann Escarbassiere> can you help me ?
 Maybe, maybe not. I can try but I still dont understand exactly what you are trying to debug. If it is a must to access your device from a chrome browser on your desktop, I am not sure that would work. Maybe someone else knows
 also, there maybe a language barrier here :) I assume your native language is French?
 there is also https://t.me/UBports_French
 @matv1 [hey Marius, you're probably aware, but on the off-chance you're not: the orienta …], Pinging us directly generally doesn't help and we forget. Have you filed a bug somewhere?
[13:39] <ubptgbot> almaredo was added by: almaredo
 Hi Dalton, I know and as a rule, I never do. Except on this very issue, which I brought up yesterday, Florian responded by pinging up Marius himself. To which he replied it would probably be sorted on the next image. (which now doesnt look to be the case)
 and I do report bugs on gitlab/github on occassion But have grown hesitant with reporting stuff for edge channel. Things change daily anyway and reponse to issues is often like' yeah its edge. things break all the time'. Which I understand. So for edge, I just report what I think might be significant, and see what sticks.
 In this case, apparently Marius was already aware and reworking the sensor framework, so would probably not pay to report it
[14:02] <ubptgbot> chao was added by: chao
 [Edit] and I do report bugs on gitlab/github on occassion But have grown hesitant with reporting stuff for edge channel. Things change daily anyway and reponse to issues is often like' yeah its edge. things break all the time'. Which I understand. So for edge, I just report here what I think might be significant, and see what sticks.
 @mrConLenov [<reply to media>], tell me more :D
 Does anyone know where the logs of SMS MMS messages on UT are stored? I would also like to know where the call logs are stored
 the message history, or actual log messages from the backend services?
[15:38] <ubptgbot> Иван Буянов was added by: Иван Буянов
[15:38] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> Hi guys
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> I have xiaomi mi 9 se
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> How setup Ubuntu touch
 @Иван Буянов [I have xiaomi mi 9 se], Is it not a supported device at the moment
[15:42] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> and will she work on it? if so, is it stable?
 firstly https://t.me/UBports_Ru
[15:42] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> @duskull88 [Is it not a supported device at the moment], 😔
 secondly throw the application on a correct model of phone
 nexus 5, for example
[15:43] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> @duskull88 [Is it not a supported device at the moment], Will there be a possibility of installation on mi 9 se in the future
 @dohbee [the message history, or actual log messages from the backend services?], I'm talking about the actual messages displayed in the SMS and MMS application, where is the file that contains the messages?
 @Иван Буянов [Will there be a possibility of installation on mi 9 se in the future], if you or someone ports the device and maintains it, yes
 @Elias [I'm talking about the actual messages displayed in the SMS and MMS application, …], `history-service` is the service that provides them. they are stored in sqlite db. and `nuntium` handles MMS attachments and such iirc
 @dohbee Do you know where the database is located?
[15:47] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> @dohbee [if you or someone ports the device and maintains it, yes], How much to donate to support mi 9 se
[15:48] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> I'll be very grateful
 @Иван Буянов [How much to donate to support mi 9 se], you can't donate to have specific phones supported. whoever is porting also needs to have the device. but we don't provide a porting service. you or someone else with the device will need to do the port.
 @Elias [@dohbee Do you know where the database is located?], under `~/.local/share/history-service/` iirc
 @dohbee Thank you for the information 👍
[15:51] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> @dohbee [you can't donate to have specific phones supported. whoever is porting also need …], Thanks
[15:51] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> 🤝
 @Иван Буянов [Thanks], hm I think you can find a porter can donate him enough so that he can buy your phone
 @Иван Буянов [Thanks], [Edit] hm I think you can find a porter to donate him enough so that he can buy your phone
 @ItsMeShouko [hm I think you can find a porter to donate him enough so that he can buy your ph …], maybe possible, but it UBports does not perform this service, nor broker such service between other parties.
[15:54] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> Guys, ho can ports Ubuntu touch for mi 9 se ?
 @Иван Буянов [Guys, ho can ports Ubuntu touch for mi 9 se ?], what about yourself if you need so? http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html P.S Вероятность того, что найдётся человек с таким же девайсом, который хочет на свой девайс убунту, довольно мала
 @Yann Escarbassiere [can you help me ?], did you enable remote debug for the browser instance on the device?
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/fUUH0BiD.png
[16:22] <ubptgbot> <Иван Буянов> @JustTheOtherOne [what about yourself if you need so? http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/in …], No thanks
 @DearerMetal [<reply to media>], wrong group? I think you want the halium group for that.
 Sorry
 👍
 @Иван Буянов [How much to donate to support mi 9 se], you can try porting yourself
[17:21] <ubptgbot> pupe69 was added by: pupe69
 question, is it possible to add enable / disable buttons for anbox?
 @Jaymz665 [question, is it possible to add enable / disable buttons for anbox?], We probably can make an app to kill/start anbox from gui
 @ItsMeShouko [We probably can make an app to kill/start anbox from gui], That would be super!
[20:58] <ubptgbot> Djuro Ivankovic was added by: Djuro Ivankovic
 @ItsMeShouko [We probably can make an app to kill/start anbox from gui], Really 😄
[22:52] <ubptgbot> LAURNITA was added by: LAURNITA
 @mariogrip [tell me more :D], Saw that on reddit, its a photoshoped scam :(
 id love to see lomiri on debian


[16:21] <linuxtech> My brother upgraded his Kubuntu desktop to 13.10 which has MythTV .27 and the MythTV backend hasn't been upgraded yet, it still at .26 and raring. Has anyone rebuilt the .26 packages for saucy?
[16:53] <Kwisher_wrk> it's best to wait a month or so before upgrading on a myth system
[17:05] <louisdk> On a standard Mythbuntu 12.04 dist with Mythtv 0.27 I've a weird storage group setup with double entries: http://pastebin.com/3a1LB3E2 - I've only created the ChannelIcons entry myself. Why are some entries showing up twice both as <IP_ADDRESS> and hostname (louis-nettop).
[17:06] <superm1> linuxtech: no we won't be offering 0.26 in saucy
[17:06] <superm1> 0.27 is available at precise, raring, saucy and trusty though
[17:16] <superm1> linuxtech: you can try to use the packaging scripts to do it yourself
[17:16] <superm1> fairly confident they should work
[17:16] <superm1> https://github.com/mythtv/packaging and use the fixes/0.26 branch