[00:00] <RAOF> can-raof-push-to-this :)
[00:00] <vorlon> the rule I set up is for ubuntu/[!d]*
[00:00] <vorlon> which happens to match all currently active branches except for ubuntu/devel
[00:00] <bdmurray> poor disco
[00:02] <RAOF> Ok. I can push an empty commit to ubuntu/focal.
[00:03] <RAOF> Looks like the permissions changes are successful.
[00:03] <bdmurray> Try pushing to devel!
[00:06] <RAOF> I cannot push to ubuntu/devel.
[00:06] <RAOF> Test successful!
[00:07]  * rbasak wonders why the branches are all prefixed 'ubuntu/'
[00:07] <rbasak> Is there any branch that would be !ubuntu?
[00:08] <rbasak> Anyway, thank you for moving these to git!
[00:10] <cjwatson> Maybe I should have made it a regex rather than fnmatch, but I was trying to keep it simple :)
[00:11] <cjwatson> However you can have multiple rules - make a rule for ubuntu/devel first that only lets ubuntu-release push or whatever, and then a rule for ubuntu/* with a lower priority
[00:11] <cjwatson> vorlon: ^ probably clearer than an ubuntu/[!d]* rule
[00:16] <vorlon> cjwatson: ah yes, thanks
[00:18] <vorlon> rbasak: this was what rbalint gave me and I didn't dispute it; my inclination would've been to omit the ubuntu/ prefix as well
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[09:06] <Laney> Maik: Yeah.
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[09:13] <Laney> doko: Might be worth mailing that goal & request for help to ubuntu-devel in reply to seb128's mail
[09:15] <doko> Laney: see "Python 3.9 for Ubuntu 21.04 (h-series)"
[09:15] <doko> plus we don't have any riscv64 buildds at the moment
[09:15] <Laney> to me it's not clear that this is blocking the opening
[09:15] <Laney> but ok
[09:16] <Laney> not from that mail, it's clear from IRC ;-)
[09:16] <seb128> 'hopefully before the end of
[09:16] <seb128> the year.'
[09:16] <seb128> hopefully the distro opens also before eoy :p
[09:16] <doko> "With the opening of the h-series, we will add 3.9 as a supported version"
[09:16] <seb128> right, but isn't that done?
[09:17] <doko> no
[09:17] <seb128> or did you mean 'want to transition the archive to 3.9 before opening'?
[09:17] <doko> no
[09:17] <seb128> and how long do we expect the delay
[09:17] <Laney> I think the adding involves rebuilding a lot of packages
[09:17] <Laney> well I know that *now*, but again it's not clear from that mail imho
[09:17] <seb128> we should be better in sharing status with the project
[09:18] <seb128> I get that some people know what's going on
[09:18] <seb128> but come on, Ubuntu is not for the few people who own the archive...
[09:18] <Laney> so I'm suggesting a follow-up but it sounds like doko is trying to argue that it was clear already
[09:18] <seb128> I still don't know what we want to achieve and how long we expect it to take
[09:18] <seb128> right
[09:18] <seb128> I would be obviously +1 on sharing more details to the list, not only for me
[09:18] <doko> have working buildds
[09:19] <doko> and get as much of the 3.9 addition added as possible
[09:19] <seb128> please share that with the project?
[09:19] <doko> I can't speak for the lp team
[09:20] <seb128> who can tell us what is blocked the syncs to starts and the uploads to be accepted?
[09:20] <doko> and I'm sure that "somebody" would have complained as well when doing the opening and the 3.9 addition in parallel
[09:20] <seb128> I'm not complaining about the delay but about the fact that we have no public communication and no details of what is happening and how long we are likely to have to wait
[09:21] <doko> there is no delay. it's the opening process which takes time. sometimes less, sometimes more
[09:24] <seb128> basically you don't want public communication on what is happening is the outcome of that discussion?
[09:25] <seb128> do we have a RT for the buildds not working?
[09:25] <seb128> if not I will open you and Cc ubuntu-release on the ticket if that's ok?
[09:26] <cjwatson> Sorry, what?  There are certainly riscv64 buildds working at the moment
[09:26] <cjwatson> Even if not a full set
[09:26] <cjwatson> You don't need all of them to open
[09:28] <cjwatson> And from what I can see they were just down briefly for upgrades this morning, not a major outage or anything
[09:28] <doko> yes, I see these were just enabled again
[09:28] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks
[09:29] <seb128> k, so who decides when we open the archive including unblocking upload? is that a release-team owned decision?
[09:35] <Laney> Technically it is, but it's basically delegated to the people doing the pre opening work i.e. toolchain stuff or any initial transitions
[09:37] <seb128> so back to initial question, python3.9 is what is on the road to opening now, do we have a transition tracker? how much do we need done to unblock?
[09:38] <Laney> doko linked to https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/python3.9-add.html earlier
[09:40] <seb128> Laney, thx, I didn't see that but maybe it was before we joined
[09:40] <doko> Laney: when autopkg tests for python3-defaults and ruby-defaults are triggered, would it be possible to automatically add triggers for for packages which have a python3.9-* provides?
[09:41] <Laney> doko: it should be somehow, sounds like a discussion to have with elbrus involved too
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[10:03] <paride> Hi, how is it that there are already a several hirsute packages available in the repos if hirsute itself is still in pre-release freeze, according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hirsute/ ?
[10:03] <paride> Were they manually approved or something?
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[10:08] <Laney> paride: yes indeed, it just means uploads need to be manually approved in the queue
[10:09] <paride> thanks! makes sense now :)
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[10:19] <xnox> seb128:  python transitions are 3 step process => for compiled extensions it is possible to compile them for multiple supported versions (rather than just the default one) that is attempted to achieve now. Then default can be switched. Then one can remove the old-default from supported and rebuild things to drop 3.8 extensions. It is best to do that _without_ autosync running; as too much of python
[10:19] <xnox> stack will not work =/ because we run autopkgtests for all supported versions; rather than default, and without extensions not everything can run with python3.9 =( leading to +1 nightmare =)
[10:20] <xnox> seb128:  in some other releases we did attempt boost/icu/python transitions before opening. So that's not unusual. Althought I don't think we had anything big for groovy opening.
[10:20] <seb128> xnox, right, I think there would be value to share those informations or plans on the list or discourse so everyone knows what's going on
[10:20] <xnox> does above explain the scope of "adding python3.8 as supported" a bit better?
[10:26] <juliank> I think I should cleanup python-apt
[10:27] <juliank> vorlon's upload https://launchpadlibrarian.net/503757940/python-apt_2.1.3ubuntu2_2.1.3ubuntu3.diff.gz added quite a bit of breakage
[10:27] <juliank> does that work?
[10:27] <juliank> like there's a single line "beep" before the groovy block
[10:27] <juliank> and various buggy changes in the groovy section that don't matter much
[10:28] <juliank> I should install it
[10:29] <juliank> it seems to work
[10:29] <juliank> we do have fairly stupid parsers
[10:29] <Laney> haha
[11:02] <apw> has anyone successfully debootstrap'd a hirsute-i386 chroot ?
[11:04] <apw> (and indeed should i be able to, i am expecting to be able to)
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[11:20] <cjwatson> apw: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/hirsute/ubuntu has, though it failed a bit later
[11:22] <sil2100> But we don't debootstrap i386 there, or are we?
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[11:29] <cjwatson> oh i386
[11:29] <cjwatson> sorry, dunno then
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[12:42] <rbalint> rbasak, vorlon true, the ubuntu/ prefix is redundant here, my bad, i just went with the standard dep-14 naming without thinking more about simplifying it
[12:42] <rbalint> rbasak, vorlon how about dropping the prefix while it is not cloned yet by many people?
[12:43] <rbalint> also \o/ for the switch! :-)
[12:44] <tjaalton> and make the default branch to point at devel?
[12:44] <tjaalton> head I mean
[12:44] <rbalint> tjaalton, yes
[12:56] <rbasak> rbalint: it's up to you and vorlon. If it were me I'd drop the prefix now since as you say it's presumably the best time to do that and it'll save one autocomplete step for many in the future :)
[13:46] <rbalint> RAOF, bdmurray i've filed the bzr->git redirection MPs for the hints, could you please merge them and then mark the branches as merged? https://code.launchpad.net/britney/+activereviews
[14:45] <vorlon> juliank: heh oops.  sorry for the breakage, is it fixed now?
[14:45] <juliank> vorlon: Well it worked ifne, so I did not bother
[14:46] <vorlon> rbalint, rbasak: ok I might clean it up today if I have a chance
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added pyqt5-sip to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[15:44] <Laney> ubuntu-sru could someone review all the distro-info-data please?
[15:45] <bdmurray> Laney: I can do that
[15:46] <Laney> merci bdmurray
[15:47] <Laney> wdyt about expediting the releasing of it too after testing? and documenting that on the SRU page as something we expect to do?
[15:48] <bdmurray> I'm good with that
[15:48] <Laney> cool
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[16:06] <Laney> bdmurray: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zDk5rr2YHG/ ?
[16:08] <bdmurray> Laney: I'd use all caps for XANIMAL. Also is "1 day after release" enough? I remember some weirdness with either stable or development releases.
[16:10] <Laney> I know it breaks on release day
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[16:25] <bdmurray> xnox: Do you have an icu-data test case for my tzdata SRUs yet?
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[17:43] <mitya57> Can someone please promote python3-snowballstemmer binary to main? It's source is already in main. Needed to fix "Impossible Depends: sphinx -> python3-snowballstemmer/2.0.0-2/amd64".
[18:01] <doko> done
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[18:07] <mitya57> thanks!
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[18:21] <Laney> bdmurray: I just added it with the XANIMAL replacement for now - please adjust as you see fit
[18:24] <bdmurray> Laney: ack
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[18:40] <vorlon> sil2100: do you know why lubuntu 18.04 had alternate images at release time but not for any of the point releases? when I archived the older point releases, someone noticed (LP: #1901716)
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[19:10] <doko> last big batch ...
[19:21] <LocutusOfBorg> What is the problem in having an hirsute HEDGEHOG?
[19:21]  * LocutusOfBorg looks at hedgewars
[19:23] <Maik> LocutusOfBorg: they already had Hedgehog with 5.04
[19:24] <LocutusOfBorg> oh gosh, I forgot about that... it was looooong time ago indeed
[19:24] <Maik> :)
[19:26] <LocutusOfBorg> so, Hummingbird or Hyena are my bets :p
[19:30] <Maik> Hirsute Hyena has been suggested in the discourse topic which i like too
[19:32] <vorlon> Hirsute Haberdasher
[19:42] <LocutusOfBorg> lol!
[19:42] <LocutusOfBorg> Harbormaster? :)
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[19:52] <vorlon> tsimonq2, wxl: could you weigh in on LP: #1901716 please?
[19:52] <tsimonq2> Looking
[19:55] <juliank> please do point me at stuff to do for +1 maintenance tomorrow
[19:55] <juliank> I see that py3.9 stuff is going on
[19:56] <juliank> but clearly anything that deserves priority let me know
[19:58] <tsimonq2> vorlon: Responded on the bug report, continuing in #lubuntu-devel. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. :)
[19:58] <vorlon> tsimonq2: thanks!
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[20:08] <vorlon> fyi the official name appears to be Hirsute Hippo :)
[20:09] <tsimonq2> Nice.
[20:10] <tsimonq2> <juliank "please do point me at stuff to d"> Even though I'm ~not-canonical, ditto. One of my goals is to get back into things and help out with +1 maintenance where I can.
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[20:10] <tsimonq2> I do have a checklist on my end for Lubuntu New Release packages, so if those aren't done in the next ~ 12 hours, I'll JFDI (assuming the archive is ready for it).
[20:11] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/new-release/browse/master/README.md$61 and seed stuff.
[20:11] <vorlon> unofficial name: Hirsute Yak
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[20:41] <tsimonq2> vorlon: Could you (or someone) please sign<EMAIL_ADDRESS>up to receive the livefs fail emails?
[20:42] <tsimonq2> Also, I feel like we've been over this before but gilir has been absent for an entire LTS cycle. Wasted computing resources. :)
[20:46] <vorlon> tsimonq2: done
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[20:58] <tsimonq2> Thanks vorlon.
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[04:27] <khaeru> 'Ello?
[04:31] <khaeru> I have a question about http://norsetto.890m.com/desktop_packages.php, if anyone's around
[17:09] <cj> rickspencer3: are you guys *really* meeting on Christmas and New Years'?
[17:12] <rickspencer3> yeah, I don't think so
[17:12] <rickspencer3> :)
[22:52] <cj> quiet in here...


[07:33] <cbx33> ping burgundavia pm
[07:34] <Burgundavia> got it
[07:51] <cbx33> Burgundavia, are you identified?
[07:52] <Burgundavia> nope
[07:52] <Burgundavia> hmm
[07:58] <LaserJock> hi cbx33
[07:59] <cbx33> hey Las
[07:59] <cbx33> erJock
[08:20] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[08:20] <LaserJock> how's it going Corey?
[08:22] <Burgundavia> work is crazy busy
[08:22] <Burgundavia> and I get to rip out all the Ubuntu I have installed
[08:22] <Burgundavia> because it is not "maintainable"
[08:23] <Burgundavia> my kingdom for ltsp
[08:27] <LaserJock> hehe
[08:27] <LaserJock> poor Burgundavia
[08:28] <Burgundavia> apparently "we are going to use DiscoverStation and NetworkPersonalizer internally"
[08:28] <Burgundavia> right
[08:28] <Burgundavia> oh, and userful is hiring
[08:30] <LaserJock> hehe
[08:31] <LaserJock> well, Canonical is making everybody use Feisty internally I think
[08:32] <LaserJock> although maybe not quite yet
[08:32] <Burgundavia> really? they are running prerelease on a product system?
[08:32] <Burgundavia> I can see running it once it is stable
[08:32] <LaserJock> I think they might force it at Beta
[08:32] <LaserJock> I saw Mark telling the LP guys to get prepared
[08:33] <LaserJock> as a way of getting bugs worked out I guess
[08:33] <Burgundavia> right
[08:33] <Burgundavia> seems sane for some, but others not so much
[08:34] <Burgundavia> I am fairly conservative when it comes to product machines
[08:34] <Burgundavia> production machines, rather
[08:35] <Burgundavia> the whole office runs dapper for this very reason
[08:36] <LaserJock> I don't have any dapper or edgy machines anymore
[08:36] <LaserJock> only Feisty
[08:36] <LaserJock> although it's a pain for SRUs
[08:37] <Burgundavia> having the dapper machines at work has been a good wakeup call
[08:37] <Burgundavia> otherwise I would have no dapper machiens either
[10:17] <cbx33> ping ogra can I force a screen resoultion for computers
[10:17] <cbx33> I want to force 1024x768 on ALL machines
[10:17] <cbx33> I know they can handle it
[11:53] <SewenSins> hello everybody
[11:54] <SewenSins> i have a small question: Why cant i use beryl effects on a terminal even if the client has a nvidia gfx-card like the server
[11:55] <SewenSins> or how should one configure st like this?
[11:57] <SewenSins> i actually know of both cards that they each on its own ...are capable of displaying the nice effects but over tzhe network as running ltsp it doesnt function
[11:59] <SewenSins> okay... that will be it for now...i ll idle a bit an wait for someone to private click me and maybe make a fine suggestion :) lookin 4ward
[03:55] <cliebow> anyone know if feisty will still go on ppc?
[04:38] <rockprincess> howdy friends!
[04:40] <edubuntugirl> hello rockprincess!!!
[04:40] <rockprincess> hello edubuntugirl ;)
[04:41] <highvoltage> howzit going?
[04:42] <rockprincess> i'm cool :) edubuntu and the thinclients are running smoothly :) i can't ask for more i guess :D
[04:45] <rockprincess> hmmm can i install schooltool on kubuntu edgy as well?
[04:48] <bddebian> Heya
[04:48] <rockprincess> howdy bddebian ;)
[04:49] <bddebian> Good morning your highness! :-)
[04:49] <rockprincess> hehe ;)
[04:58] <highvoltage> rockprincess: yep. apt-get install schooltool :)
[04:59] <rockprincess> thank you, highvoltage ;)
[05:03] <jsgotangco> hey highvoltage
[05:03] <jsgotangco> how's it going
[05:03] <highvoltage> going great, and you jsgotangco?
[05:04] <highvoltage> working on government stuff at the moment, quite challenging
[05:04] <jsgotangco> not bad just past midnight here and just listening to some nerdcore music
[05:06] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
[05:09] <cbx33> jsgotangco, don't suppose you know who's looking after GSoC this year?
[05:10] <jsgotangco> cbx33: no idea yet, besides, projects are still submitting for inclusion. Probably doko will handle it again, or another guy like RichEd
[05:11] <jsgotangco> do you want to mentor?
[05:11] <cbx33> yes
[05:11] <cbx33> and I have a student
[05:13] <jsgotangco> cbx33: well if the selection mechanism would be the same again, the student has to propose it then the mentors will have to vote for it
[05:13] <cbx33> so basically he needs to come up ith a project?
[05:13] <cbx33> how do I become a mentor?
[05:14] <jsgotangco> cbx33: yes the project is supposed to be the student's, not exactly yours ;-)
[05:14] <cbx33> of course not ;)
[05:17] <jsgotangco> but he'll be fighting out with like 200+ applications or probably even more
[05:22] <cbx33> yikes
[05:22] <cbx33> but for edubuntu
[05:22] <cbx33> likely to be better chance right?
[05:23] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:24] <jsgotangco> edubuntu can probably allocate 2 specific projects
[05:24] <jsgotangco> cbx33: looking at the student proposals alone can be a funny experience
[05:25] <cbx33> so if I wanted to be a mentor....
[05:25] <cbx33> who would i talk to doko?
[05:25] <jsgotangco> just wait for the announcement, i have no idea who will be handling it or if ubuntu will even join SoC this year
[05:26] <cbx33> ok
[05:26] <jsgotangco> ubuntu probably will anyways
[05:26] <cbx33> i think they may not
[05:27] <cbx33> deadline is getting pretty close apparently
[05:27] <jsgotangco> because bazaar is already discussing it on the ML
[05:28] <cbx33> oh
[05:29] <jsgotangco> mentoring organization applications started only 4 days ago
[05:31] <jsgotangco> We are currently accepting applications from open source organizations. The list of selected organizations will be show here on March 14th.
[05:33] <jsgotangco> oh well goodnight anyways
[05:33] <jsgotangco> ciao
[05:45] <ogra_> cbx33, doko and Keybuk are doing SoC this time round
[05:45] <cbx33> cool
[05:45] <cbx33> thanks ogra
[05:45] <cbx33> ogra_, while you're here
[05:45] <cbx33> anyway to force screen res for LTSP clients?
[05:45] <ogra_> i'm not :)
[05:46] <cbx33> doh
[05:46] <ogra_> look up X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH
[05:46] <cbx33> thakns
[05:46] <ogra_> in the ltsp-client docs
[07:00] <cliebow> anyone knoew if feisty will install on ppc..and build a chroot..or is it orphaned at edgy
[07:07] <Laser_away> cliebow: what do you mean?
[07:53] <cliebow> Laser_away: i know intentions are to give up onsupporting ppc..will there be feisty for ppc or is that a dead end?
[07:53] <cliebow> ltsp/muekow in pasrticular
[08:12] <LaserJock> cliebow_: it's not unsupported, just community supported
[08:12] <LaserJock> cliebow_: there will be Feisty ppc .isos as far as I know
[08:30] <student> I need help
[08:31] <mrwizard14> my menu bar is no longer showing up
[08:31] <mrwizard14> and I need it for my school assignment
[08:32] <mrwizard14> our school computers are broken
[08:33] <mrwizard14> and I need to get my document in
[08:33] <mrwizard14> or i fail
[08:33] <LaserJock> mrwizard14: you are using Edubuntu?
[08:33] <mrwizard14> yes
[08:33] <LaserJock> do you have a panel at all?
[08:33] <mrwizard14> nope
[08:34] <LaserJock> hit Alt-F2
[08:34] <LaserJock> and type gnome-panel
[08:34] <mrwizard14> it gives a wierd message
[08:34] <mrwizard14> and fails
[08:34] <mrwizard14> the panel is the top menu bar, right?
[08:34] <LaserJock> yeah
[08:35] <LaserJock> is there a bottom one?
[08:35] <mrwizard14> yes
[08:35] <mrwizard14> it says it's already running
[08:35] <mrwizard14> but i can
[08:35] <LaserJock> ok
[08:35] <mrwizard14> *cant see it
[08:35] <LaserJock> can you right click on the bottom panel
[08:36] <mrwizard14> yes
[08:36] <LaserJock> is there a "New Panel" option?
[08:36] <mrwizard14> yes
[08:37] <LaserJock> hit that
[08:37] <LaserJock> where does the new panel show up?
[08:37] <mrwizard14> ok
[08:37] <mrwizard14> the top
[08:37] <mrwizard14> but it's empty
[08:38] <LaserJock> ok
[08:38] <LaserJock> now right click on the top panel and hit "Add to Panel"
[08:38] <mrwizard14> ok
[08:39] <LaserJock> down at the bottom there should be a "Menu Bar" item
[08:39] <mrwizard14> ok
[08:39] <mrwizard14> drag it in?
[08:39] <LaserJock> just click on it
[08:39] <mrwizard14> ok
[08:40] <mrwizard14> the panels huge, though
[08:40] <LaserJock> and hit the "Add" button down at the bottom
[08:40] <LaserJock> ok, so right click on the panel and hit "Properties"
[08:40] <mrwizard14> ok
[08:41] <LaserJock> you can adjust the size in there
[08:41] <mrwizard14> what is it normally at?
[08:41] <LaserJock> hmm, I have mine at 24
[08:41] <LaserJock> although that's fairly small
[08:41] <mrwizard14> it's the same as the others
[08:41] <LaserJock> I think the default is somewhere between 24-32
[08:41] <mrwizard14> thx
[08:42] <LaserJock> I'm not sure why you panel got deleted in the first place
[08:42] <mrwizard14> someone was messing around with IM
[08:42] <mrwizard14> and didn't wanna get caught
[08:42] <mrwizard14> it's a school comp
[08:42] <LaserJock> hmm
[08:43] <mrwizard14> i found it out when they freeaked out
[08:43] <mrwizard14> they're windows people
[08:43] <mrwizard14> I am not a windows dude
[08:43] <LaserJock> mrwizard14: you might want to mention to the comp admin too look into pessulus or sabayon :-)
[08:43] <mrwizard14> huh?
[08:43] <mrwizard14> I'm used to unix
[08:44] <mrwizard14> from inside Mac OS X
[08:44] <mrwizard14> the terminal thingie
[08:44] <LaserJock> pessulus and sabayon are for locking down the computers
[08:44] <mrwizard14> i c
[08:44] <LaserJock> so people don't mess with stuff too much
[08:44] <mrwizard14> the teachers would get pretty pissed
[08:44] <mrwizard14> i c
[08:44] <mrwizard14> can i lock to panel?
[08:45] <LaserJock> well, you can lock items to the panel
[08:45] <LaserJock> but you can't really lock the panel itself without using one of these tools
[08:45] <mrwizard14> i c
[08:45] <mrwizard14> so do i google that?
[08:46] <mrwizard14> I'm a unix/linux n00b
[08:46] <mrwizard14> a 12 year old
[08:48] <mrwizard14> so how do i run programs that i download using http?
[08:48] <LaserJock> mrwizard14: yeah, you can google those if you want
[08:48] <LaserJock> mrwizard14: well, generally you shouldn't need to
[08:49] <LaserJock> the Ubuntu software repositories have most everything you'll need
[08:49] <mrwizard14> but I am trying to dun DeSMuMe on OS X
[08:49] <mrwizard14> and it's a Unix app
[08:50] <LaserJock> mrwizard14: you want it in Edubuntu or OS X?
[08:50] <mrwizard14> OS X
[08:52] <LaserJock> looks like it is only a Windows app to me
[08:53] <mrwizard14> it is unix
[08:54] <mrwizard14> i checked
[08:54] <LaserJock> mrwizard14: "DeSmuME is also known as YopYop DS is written in C++ for Microsoft Windows" and the download give a .exe
[08:55] <mrwizard14> http://forums.emuscene.com/viewtopic.php?t=3156
[08:55] <mrwizard14> Hi all,
[08:55] <mrwizard14> Desmume is a linux DS emulator. It is currently not perfect, and there is no many games that run correctly but, it's a real technical performance.
[08:55] <mrwizard14> quote
[08:56] <mrwizard14> there's a french tutorial
[08:56] <mrwizard14> but it needs translating
[08:56] <LaserJock> hehe, they need to work on URLs
[08:56] <LaserJock> http://www.desmume.com is for windows and http://www.desmume.org is apparently for Linux
[08:57] <mrwizard14> wow
[08:57] <mrwizard14> lol
[08:57] <mrwizard14> *laguing
[08:57] <mrwizard14> *laughing
[08:59] <LaserJock> mrwizard14: well, this is very offtopic for this channel, but in general it looks like you can follow that translated version
[08:59] <mrwizard14> try the DCC chat
[08:59] <mrwizard14> cuz it is off-topic
[09:00] <LaserJock> just follow the directions on the forum thread you gave me
[09:01] <mrwizard14> but those are for intel, and I'm powerPC
[09:01] <mrwizard14> it's actually a serious difference
[10:04] <cliebow_> LaserJock:thank you...crawling back to my hole again..
[10:37] <LaserJock> heh


[02:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh pete-woods michi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2242 Generating diffs
[02:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh pete-woods michi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2242 Successfully built
[02:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh pete-woods michi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2242 Publishing packages
[02:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh pete-woods michi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2242 Proposed pocket (zesty/cmake-extras). Release pocket (xenial/cmake-extras)
[03:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh pete-woods michi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2242 Release pocket
[08:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2219 QA Signoff: Approved
[09:03] <Elleo> jibel: could we add https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2260 to the QA queue despite the autopkg issues on xenial, they're just caused by the incompatible oxide release in xenial-security that hasn't gone into xenial-overlay yet; it's a pretty important fix
[09:05] <jibel> Elleo, somoeone must fix oxide
[09:05] <jibel> oSoMoN, ^
[09:05] <jibel> Elleo, we cannot test anything because of this
[09:06] <Saviq> jibel, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 is "fixing oxide" and is you-ready
[09:07] <oSoMoN> jibel, Elleo: vigo is currently testing oxide 1.18.5
[09:07] <Saviq> and that ↑
[09:07] <jibel> okay then :)
[09:07] <jibel> vigo, when can you approve 2148?
[09:08] <vigo> jibel, sure I'm on it
[09:10] <Elleo> oSoMoN: ah, great, thanks
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2253 Abandoning ticket
[09:30] <robru> hot diggity, 1319 finally landed. that ticket has been in flight since april
[09:35] <jibel> and broke mms support apparently
[09:36] <davmor2> I blame robru
[09:54] <robru> sweet
[09:56] <davmor2> robru: you're welcome
[09:56] <robru> davmor2: clearly it was boiko who rushed that ticket through in a mere 8 months.
[09:57] <davmor2> robru: yeah but only under pressure from you obviously ;)
[11:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-network). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libqtdbusmock, zesty/gmenuharness, zesty/libqtdbusmock)
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Preparing packages
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 QA Signoff: Approved
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/keeper). Successfully built (xenial/keeper)
[11:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2208 Publishing packages
[11:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2208 Publish failed: Packaging diff requires ACK
[11:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2208 Publishing packages
[12:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Preparing packages
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2208 Proposed pocket
[12:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit)
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Successfully built
[12:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Failed to build
[12:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Preparing packages
[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark charles seb128, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1649 Abandoning ticket
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Preparing packages
[12:45] <oSoMoN> trainguards: would you mind publishing https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 on my behalf?
[12:46] <robru> oSoMoN: you need core dev, not train guard (I'm unforunately the only tg who isn't also a core dev...)
[12:46] <oSoMoN> robru, ah right, sorry for the confusion
[12:46] <robru> and sil is sick today... mirv doesn't seem to be around, blargh
[12:46] <robru> oSoMoN: not sure if you have a go-to core dev...
[12:47] <oSoMoN> robru, I have a bunch of names handy, I’ll try them
[12:48] <robru> ok great
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2208 Proposed pocket (zesty/libappindicator). Release pocket (zesty/appmenu-qt5, zesty/sni-qt)
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 Preparing packages
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx dfiloni, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2227 Preparing packages
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Currently building (xenial/keeper). Failed to build (zesty/keeper)
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 zesty/ubuntu-system-settings: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-system-settings/main_list_view
[12:57] <oSoMoN> ogra_, would you mind publishing https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 (oxide 1.18.5 to vivid+overlay, xenial+overlay and zesty) on my behalf?
[13:00] <ogra_> oSoMoN, done
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 Publishing packages
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Currently building (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub, zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit)
[13:02] <oSoMoN> ogra_, thanks!
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 Preparing packages
[13:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx dfiloni, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2227 Pending binary packages
[13:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Failed to build (zesty/keeper). Successfully built (xenial/keeper)
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/indicator-network, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/libertine, zesty/mediascanner2, zesty/url-dispatcher). Ready to build (zesty/oxide-qt). Release pocket (xenial/oxide-qt). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libertine
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (xenial/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/content-hub)
[13:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 Release pocket (vivid/oxide-qt, xenial/oxide-qt). Successfully built (zesty/oxide-qt)
[13:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx dfiloni, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2227 Successfully built
[13:35] <vigo> kenvandine, ping
[13:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 Failed to build
[13:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/content-hub)
[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2208 Release pocket
[14:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Preparing packages
[14:14] <kenvandine> vigo, pong
[14:14] <vigo> kenvandine, hI! everything is ok with 2178
[14:14] <vigo> I found a bug but it is reprodducible without the silo so np
[14:15] <vigo> I'll land it now :)
[14:15] <kenvandine> awesome
[14:15] <kenvandine> vigo, please file the bug
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[14:16] <vigo> kenvandine, filed
[14:16] <kenvandine> thx
[14:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- attente kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2178 QA Signoff: Approved
[14:18] <oSoMoN> trainguards: do you happen to know why https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 hasn’t been published for zesty yet?
[14:29] <robru> oSoMoN: I happen to know many things.
[14:29] <oSoMoN> robru, please enlighten me :)
[14:30] <davmor2> oSoMoN: first find robru a swrubbery
[14:31] <robru> oSoMoN: heh, looking
[14:33] <robru> oSoMoN: hummmmmm http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cicopy.log indicates it was copied but I don't see it at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/+publishinghistory
[14:33] <robru> oSoMoN: I guess we should ask ogra_ to copy it manually
[14:34] <oSoMoN> davmor2, ni!
[14:34] <davmor2> oSoMoN: don't get stealing robru's line
[14:35] <robru> davmor2: we are NO LONGER the knights who say NI!! (ni! ni!) We are now the knights who say... ICKY ICKY ICKY P'TANG ZU BON ZARGEN ZIFF!
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Currently building (xenial/url-dispatcher). Failed to build (xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/indicator-network, zesty/libertine, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/url-dispatcher)
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- attente kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2178 Publishing packages
[14:35] <davmor2> \o/
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit)
[14:46] <oSoMoN> ogra_, it looks like oxide-qt wasn’t published for zesty (only for vivid+overlay and xenial+overlay), can you copy the packages to zesty?
[14:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Preparing packages
[14:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2127 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub, zesty/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/gallery-app, xenial/address-book-app, xenial/gallery-app, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/gallery-app)
[14:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150 Generating diffs
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150 Dependency wait (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Failed to build (vivid/unity-api, xenial/unity-api, zesty/unity-api). Successfully built (vivid/unity8)
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- attente kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2178 Proposed pocket (zesty/content-hub). Release pocket (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub)
[15:02] <oSoMoN> trainguards: how can I get automated signoff to re-run on https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2243 (ideally for xenial only) ?
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 Preparing packages
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Successfully built
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2233 Preparing packages
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2233 zesty/telephony-service: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/telephony-service/protocols-through-dbus
[15:05] <robru> oSoMoN: depends what you mean by "automated signoff". You want the failed autopkgtests rerun?
[15:06] <oSoMoN> robru, yes
[15:06] <robru> oSoMoN: in that case you need a core dev to click the retry button
[15:06] <robru> Britney will scan continuously to discover new results automatically
[15:07] <oSoMoN> robru, so once they pass the "automated signoff" status on the ticket will be updated, right?
[15:08] <robru> oSoMoN: yes, bileto runs britney on a loop and it reports the autopkgtests results in addition to a bunch of other stuff
[15:08] <oSoMoN> robru, ok, thanks
[15:08] <robru> oSoMoN: you're welcome
[15:10]  * oSoMoN goes to cut the down the mightiest tree in the forest with a herring
[15:11] <oSoMoN> s/cut the/cut/
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Failed to build (zesty/keeper). Successfully built (xenial/keeper)
[15:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2233 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/telephony-service)
[15:16] <Saviq> robru, bug #1647396 - what do you think? we were tricked by the package statuses in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150 - couldn't spot what's the issue initially
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Preparing packages
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2233 Preparing packages
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2233 zesty/telephony-service: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/telephony-service/protocols-through-dbus
[15:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150 Preparing packages
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2238 QA Signoff: Approved
[15:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Pending binary packages (xenial/keeper). Successfully built (zesty/keeper)
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2233 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/telephony-service)
[15:36] <robru> Saviq: replied
[15:38] <Saviq> trainguards, we have a problem - unity-api built fine two weeks ago, something in the mean time made it so qmltestrunner segfaults on arm64 across all three targets - looking at the log https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150#audit_log it first started to fail on Nov 30th (previous built Nov 28th was fine) - any idea what happened around that time? I confirmed lp:unity-api exposes the same issue in a porter box - trace being http://pastebin.ubuntu.co
[15:38] <Saviq> m/23583805/
[15:40] <Elleo> trainguards: could someone rerun the failed autopkg tests on this silo https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2260 ? When we tried it the time and date in bileto updated, but the test results are still from friday
[15:40] <robru> Elleo: sorry, not me. you need a core dev
[15:41] <robru> Elleo: "when we tried it"? what did you try?
[15:41] <Elleo> robru: we had kenvandine retrigger them, but they don't actually get rerun
[15:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Failed to build (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings)
[15:41] <Elleo> robru: ah, it sounds like maybe they are actually running at the moment and the updated time on bileto was unrelated
[15:42] <Elleo> robru: I guess bileto polls periodically or something for the results and updates its time after each poll?
[15:42] <robru> Elleo: yes, bileto polls regularly. the frequency is determined by the load, usually 20-90 minutes.
[15:43] <robru> Elleo: when did ken retry? just now?
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8)
[15:43] <Elleo> robru: yeah, about 20 minutes ago
[15:44] <robru> Elleo: yeah give that an hour. there's issues with cascading polling going on there, bileto polls britney and britney polls autopkgtests.
[15:44] <Elleo> robru: oSoMoN pointed me to the stats that show it running here: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#pkg-unity-scope-click
[15:44] <Elleo> robru: ah, right
[15:44] <robru> yeah that's more accurate
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Preparing packages
[15:45] <robru> Saviq: sorry not really familiar with that. I guess you need to bisect the issue and revert whatever caused it
[15:45] <Saviq> robru, yeah, how do I bisect the archive?
[15:45] <Saviq> the code didn't change
[15:45]  * Saviq should probably diff the build logs
[15:45] <ogra_> oSoMoN, robru, what do you need me to do ?
[15:45] <robru> Saviq: very carefully ;-)
[15:46] <robru> ogra_: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2148/+packages manually copy zesty to zesty-proposed because bileto didn't for some unknown reason
[15:47] <robru> Saviq: yeah diffing the build logs would probably be a reasonable start. unless the issue is in the test runner itself, as opposed to a build dep.
[15:48] <Saviq> robru, it actually built now after a rebuild...
[15:48] <seb128> Saviq, you can also try looking at the -changes mailing list to see what got uploaded
[15:49] <Saviq> still fault on a porter box... this is funky
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150 Preparing packages
[15:50] <Saviq> oh well...
[15:51] <oSoMoN> ogra_, you published https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 earlier today (thanks!) but apparently only the vivid and xenial packages, not the zesty ones, could you please do those too?
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2250 Successfully built
[15:52] <ogra_> oSoMoN, robru http://paste.ubuntu.com/23583908/ like this ?
[15:53] <robru> ogra_: yes please!
[15:53]  * ogra_ hasnt done that in ages :)
[15:53] <Saviq> robru, replied back, I think I didn't make myself clear
[15:53]  * ogra_ hist Y
[15:53] <ogra_> **hits
[15:53] <ogra_> done ...
[15:53] <oSoMoN> ogra_, that looks correct
[15:53] <robru> ogra_: yeah dunno why bileto barfed on that, all the logs I can see indicate it worked but then the package is nowhere to be found...
[15:53] <oSoMoN> thanks master ogra!
[15:54] <ogra_> Rejected:
[15:54] <ogra_> oxide-qt 1.18.5-0ubuntu1 in zesty (oxide-qt_1.18.5.orig.tar.xz already exists in destination archive with different contents.)
[15:54] <ogra_> well ...
[15:54] <oSoMoN> huh
[15:54] <robru> ah well that would explain it then
[15:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[15:55] <robru> ogra_: b bb b b b b b b but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/+publishinghistory
[15:55] <robru> oh the orig.tar
[15:55] <ogra_> yeah
[15:56] <robru> oSoMoN: ok bud fun times, you get to version bump and rebuild ;-)
[15:57] <oSoMoN> robru, given that oxide 1.19 is so close to being released, and given that no one’s blocked by oxide-qt in zesty, I think I’ll just skip this one
[15:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 xenial/ubuntu-app-launch: debdiff failed: see log for details
[15:58] <robru> oSoMoN: grrrrr... zesty is already behind on oxide. How long until 1.19 is out?
[16:00] <dobey> err, how is the orig tarball different there?!
[16:00] <dobey> and why did that not cause an error in the silo?
[16:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[16:03] <robru> dobey: PPAs can have different orig.tars with different contents.
[16:03] <robru> dobey: "different contents" might just mean compressed at different times with the same contents.
[16:03] <dobey> robru: not in my experience. tends to result in the same different contents error
[16:04] <oSoMoN> robru, let me check with chrisccoulson, there are packages ready in https://launchpad.net/~oxide-builds/+archive/ubuntu/oxide-next-for-stable-phone-overlay/+packages , it looks like we can prepare a silo already
[16:04] <robru> oSoMoN: alright if it's that close then I'll just finalize
[16:05] <oSoMoN> robru, please do, if you don’t mind
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2148 Merging branches
[16:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2180 Preparing packages
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Pending binary packages (zesty/qtmir). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8)
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Preparing packages
[16:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150 Pending binary packages (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity8, xenial/unity-api, zesty/unity-api)
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Dependency wait (xenial/indicator-network, zesty/indicator-network). Failed to build (xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/libqtdbusmock, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Pending binary packages (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/libertine, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/gmenuharness, zesty/libertine). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-t
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 Failed to build (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings)
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2180 Failed to build (zesty/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles)
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[16:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2150 Successfully built
[17:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2263 Preparing packages
[17:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2263 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[17:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Currently building (xenial/indicator-network, zesty/indicator-network). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). PPA/bzr version mismatch (zesty/libqtdbusmock). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/libertine, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/gmenuharness,
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2262 Diff missing (zesty/double-conversion, zesty/qtdeclarative-opensource-src). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (zesty/gyoto). Ready to build (zesty/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles)
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-themes, zesty/ubuntu-themes). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libqtdbusmock, zesty/gmenuharness, zesty/indicator-network, zesty/libqtdbusmock)
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2127 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/gallery-app, xenial/address-book-app, xenial/gallery-app, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/gallery-app)
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Preparing packages
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). PPA/bzr version mismatch (zesty/libqtdbusmock). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libertine, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/gmenuharness, zesty/indicator-network, zesty/libertine, zes
[17:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). PPA/bzr version mismatch (zesty/libqtdbusmock). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libertine, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/gmenuharness, zesty/indicator-network,
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 Preparing packages
[18:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 zesty/libertine: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~townsend/libertine/xmir-launcher
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2265 Preparing packages
[18:05] <dobey> mterry, tedg: any idea why https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2234 isn't published? looks like it was approved last wednesday, but still sitting there
[18:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2247 Preparing packages
[18:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 Preparing packages
[18:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Successfully built
[18:11] <mterry> dobey, tedg: dunno.  Published
[18:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsdgeos, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2234 Publishing packages
[18:13] <oSoMoN> robru, I’m not seeing webbrowser-app in the running/queued jobs at http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running (it was running like 30min ago so I assume it’s done), but the status of https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2243 hasn’t been updated either
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2180 Preparing packages
[18:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Preparing packages
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). PPA/bzr version mismatch (zesty/libqtdbusmock). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libertine, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/gmenuharness, zesty/indicator-network, zesty/libertine, zes
[18:22] <dobey> oSoMoN: may take a long while for bileto to be updated, as it only updates the status after the next bileto status run after the next britney run
[18:22] <dobey> oSoMoN: so if britney is taking a particularly long time, it could be 2+ hrs before you see any status update on bileto
[18:23] <oSoMoN> oh ok
[18:23] <oSoMoN> machines making me wait, I don’t like that very much
[18:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 Failed to build (xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/libertine). Pending binary packages (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch)
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2265 Pending binary packages (zesty/indicator-transfer). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-transfer)
[18:28] <dobey> oSoMoN: it's the machine revolution
[18:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2209 Bad merges (zesty/miral). Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/mir, zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-system-compositor)
[18:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsdgeos, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2234 Proposed pocket (zesty/policykit-unity8). Release pocket (xenial/policykit-unity8)
[18:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-network). PPA/bzr version mismatch (zesty/libqtdbusmock). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libertine, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2180 Pending binary packages (xenial/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[18:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 Failed to build (xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/libertine). Successfully built (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch)
[18:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Pending binary packages (xenial/indicator-network). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-themes, zesty/gmenuharness, zesty/indicator-network, zesty/libqtdbusmock, zesty/ubuntu-themes)
[18:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2265 Successfully built
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2262 Diff missing (zesty/double-conversion, zesty/gyoto, zesty/qtdeclarative-opensource-src). Ready to build (zesty/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles)
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Pending binary packages (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[19:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2180 Successfully built
[19:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2224 Successfully built
[19:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2247 Pending binary packages
[19:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsdgeos, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2234 Release pocket
[19:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2238 Publishing packages
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- attente kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2178 Release pocket
[19:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- greyback dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2160 Successfully built
[19:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2247 Successfully built
[19:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2127 Preparing packages
[19:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2133 Failed to build (xenial/content-hub). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub)
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2238 Proposed pocket (zesty/mediaplayer-app). Release pocket (xenial/mediaplayer-app)
[19:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit)
[19:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-network, zesty/libertine). PPA/bzr version mismatch (zesty/libqtdbusmock). Successfully built (xenial/gmenuharness, xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/libertine, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/url-
[20:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2127 Pending binary packages (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub, zesty/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/gallery-app, xenial/address-book-app, xenial/gallery-app, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/gallery-app)
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2127 Successfully built
[21:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2266 Preparing packages
[21:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2259 Failed to build (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings)
[21:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2262 Diff missing (zesty/double-conversion, zesty/gyoto). Proposed pocket (zesty/qtdeclarative-opensource-src). Ready to build (zesty/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles)
[21:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2266 Successfully built
[21:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Preparing packages
[21:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Currently building (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub, zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit)
[21:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2238 Release pocket
[22:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/content-hub). Uploading build (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub)
[22:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/content-hub)


[00:00] <ScottK> slangasek: Is this issue relevant to a non-upstartified DM?
[00:00] <ScottK> (nodm)
[00:01] <slangasek> ScottK: only in the sense that a non-upstartified DM won't get pretty splash on shutdown
[00:01] <slangasek> the nodm init script could also call initctl emit, though, without itself being upstartified
[00:01] <ScottK> It doesn't.
[00:02] <ScottK> Most of the point of nodm is to be invisible anyway, so sounds like it doesn't matter.
[02:40] <ScottK> doko_: Please retry python-omniorb in the rebuild now.  It builds for me locally with the newest dh_python2.
[02:40] <ScottK> barry: ^^^ I'm rejecting your upload too.
[07:36] <doko_> ScottK, python-omniorb did build
[14:01] <koud> Hello, I am loking for pointers on where to discuss input methods in ubuntu
[14:22] <ScottK> doko_: Cool.
[14:23] <ScottK> barry: ^^^ - Win.
[18:16] <barry> ScottK, doko_ thanks.  i was worrying about what to do with the version numbers for omniorb, but now i don't have to. :)
[18:26] <koud> has there been anywork done for creating a unified input method experience with ubuntu?
[18:27] <koud> what group should I get incontact with to discuss input methods?
[18:29] <koud> ah maybe papercuts
[18:43] <Laibsch> koud: no, that's not a papercut
[18:44] <koud> ok where should it be discussed?
[18:44] <koud> it seems like a simple usability problem to me
[18:45] <koud> problem is there are both keyboardlayouts and then there are inputmethods under language support
[18:45] <Laibsch> which makes sense, doesn't it?
[18:45] <koud> making many layers of changing keyboard language
[18:45] <koud> no
[18:45] <koud> it does not
[18:45] <Laibsch> really?
[18:45] <koud> yes I can give example
[18:45] <Laibsch> do you even know what you are talking about then?
[18:45] <koud> I use swedish and english
[18:45] <koud> I can change to swedish keyboard layout
[18:45] <koud> and then I can type swedish
[18:45] <koud> if I change to korean keyboard layout
[18:46] <koud> I cant type in korean
[18:46] <koud> then I need inputmeathod
[18:46] <koud> but inputmethod include both english and korean together
[18:46] <koud> so then I suddenly have 2 english
[18:46] <koud> there is 3rd layer of changing layout
[18:46] <koud> windows also does this way
[18:46] <koud> mac does not
[18:46] <koud> opensolaris does not
[18:47] <koud> those are only two I know that has easy keyboard language setup
[18:47] <Laibsch> I suggest you take this up with the person doing whichever GUI config tool it is you are using
[18:47] <koud> hmm?
[18:48] <koud> I am using default ubuntu change keyboard layout
[18:48] <Laibsch> what you are describing is a GUI choice issue
[18:48] <koud> no
[18:48] <Laibsch> alright
[18:48] <Laibsch> enough of you
[18:48] <Laibsch> welcome to ignore
[18:48] <koud> oh thats openminded of you
[18:48] <koud> to let me explain
[18:49] <Laibsch> I simply don't like your style of discussion
[18:49] <koud> ok I am sorry
[18:49] <Laibsch> you don't know what you are talking about but insist on your position firmly
[18:50] <koud> ok
[18:50] <koud> how can I find out who is responsible for the GUI?
[18:50] <koud> I will take your suggestion and ask that person
[18:53] <koud> do you use multiple keyboard languages?
[21:20] <zone51> what this channel about?
[21:21] <charlie-tca> !topic
[22:34] <shnatsel> cjwatson: hello again. I have "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package elementary-minimal: unknown substitution variable ${germinate:Depends}" errors in recipe builds despite germinate being installed. It produces packages with blank dependencies. How do I fix it? Full log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/80824082/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.elementary-seed-meta_1.242-0%7E300%7Eoneiric1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:50] <shnatsel> cjwatson: ok, nvm, I've figured out that it's caused by an invalid metapackage map
[22:50] <shnatsel> thanks!