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[10:18] <doko> filed LP: #2035020 for firefox. or is there another place to file issues for snaps?
[10:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2035020 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox doesn't show the menu entries to move to another workspace" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2035020
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[11:43] <bluesabre> Release team: This one is relatively low priority, but please review and let me know your thoughts. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/2035023 I think Ubuntu did something similar a while back and made their past wallpapers available in the archive.
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[11:55] <ginggs> bluesabre: lgtm, please go ahead
[11:56] <bluesabre> Right on. Thanks ginggs!
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[00:08] <ali1234> Azelphur: what page were you trying to visit?
[00:09] <Azelphur> ali1234: I was just hitting stumbleupon lol
[00:10] <ali1234> the content lock thing?
[00:10] <jacobw> i don't understand the rationale behind global menu
[00:11] <jacobw> the space saving is minimal when windows are maximised
[00:11] <jacobw> and its just confusing when windows aren't maximised
[00:14] <brobostigon> good evening everyone
[00:15] <dwatkins> hiya brobostigon
[00:15] <brobostigon> hey dwatkins :)
[00:17] <dwatkins> I'm watching traffic to a website increase as a competition has just been posted on it, just a caption thing between friends, but I suspect it will get a fair number of hits.
[00:17] <dwatkins> I'm a bit concerned that the machine might become a target as a result, as it has a wordpress blog and a forum plugin, anyone here used the Mingle forum plugin?
[00:18] <jacobw> a non-techie friend saw my unity desktop today and said 'thats a cool layout' so i can't complain to much
[00:20] <dwatkins> I'm tempted to try Unity, perhaps when sound works on my Mac.
[00:28] <jacobw> i'm not sure you'd notice going from mac to unity :p
[00:30] <shauno> oh you will.  I tried
[00:31] <dwatkins> tried and went back, shauno?
[00:31] <shauno> yeah
[00:32] <shauno> I was completely unprepared for how badly they've managed to break things I take for granted.  shall have to try it when I'm high sometime
[00:35] <shauno> so far, it's been bad enough that I'm working on plans to migrate ubuntu-server machines back to debian.  I've completely lost faith in ubuntu's ability to cater for it's users, rather than hypothetical future users
[00:36] <daftykins> highly motivated? :>
[00:41] <daftykins> reference missed :(
[01:31] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Simos Xenitellis] Pre-installed Windows and competition in the European Union - http://simos.info/blog/archives/1198?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pre-installed-windows-and-competition-in-the-european-union
[02:00] <ali1234> i find this ask slashdot story amusing
[02:00] <ali1234> http://ask.slashdot.org/story/11/04/21/2311251/Ask-Slashdot-Are-You-Streaming-Only-For-Home-Entertainment
[02:00] <ali1234> because it assumes that you must either have satellite/cable pay tv, or use internet streaming to buy the same thing
[02:01] <ali1234> silly americans
[02:01] <shauno> that's pretty much a given for large parts of the US
[02:01] <ali1234> yes, i know
[02:01] <ali1234> they have no FTA worth even mentioning
[02:01] <ali1234> because giving something away = socialism
[02:02] <ali1234> hence "silly americans"
[02:02] <shauno> I'm not sure it's anything to do with giving stuff away.  there's plenty of channels on cable you don't pay for
[02:02] <shauno> it's not like FTA doesn't contain advertising
[02:03] <ali1234> you pay for the cable
[02:03] <ali1234> the "free" channels are like the "free" toy with the happy meal
[02:03] <ali1234> not free at all
[02:03] <shauno> in most cases, the shear scale of the place just makes FTA unprofitable
[02:04] <ali1234> satellite can cover it easily
[02:04] <ali1234> i wonder what you can get unencrypted on american satellite TV
[02:04] <shauno> I wouldn't even call that easily.  you end up needing a pretty huge dish
[02:05] <ali1234> ok, maybe not easily, but certainly a lot easier than terrestrial transmitter network, and absolutely far easier than cabling every house
[02:07] <shauno> that's it .. cabling them doesn't need to be easy, because enough of them are paying for it
[02:07] <shauno> it'll make it's cost back
[02:07] <ali1234> yes
[02:07] <ali1234> public service broadcasting for free is never going to be profitable
[02:08] <ali1234> nor should it be
[02:08] <ali1234> but try telling that to the average american
[02:08] <shauno> I'm not talking about pbs .. the middle-ground where you can be completely ad-supported
[02:09] <ali1234> that doesn't even work in the UK any more
[02:09] <ali1234> ITV will be dead within 5 years probably
[02:09] <shauno> itv's selling deals with the carriers already
[02:10] <shauno> we just lost all their channels on ntl because they signed exclusivity to someone else
[02:10] <ali1234> oops
[02:10] <ali1234> but hang on
[02:10] <ali1234> it's on FTA and freesat
[02:10] <ali1234> i mean terrestrial
[02:10] <ali1234> why would you even have NTL?
[02:10] <shauno> I'm in ireland
[02:10] <ali1234> oh
[02:11] <ali1234> you can probably get freesat depending on how far west you are
[02:11] <ali1234> and questionable legality
[02:11] <shauno> that's the next catch.  I'm on the atlantic coast :)
[02:12] <ali1234> ah well. itv sucks anyway
[02:12] <shauno> rte isn't aweful, for the news atleast.  rte2 doesn't like speaking english.  itv3 is just ulster's itv, and I've no idea what they call channel 4 - it *really* doesn't like speaking english
[02:13] <daftykins> S4C?
[02:13] <shauno> naw, that's wales
[02:13] <daftykins> oh yes, sorry
[02:13] <daftykins> when i was younger, i would come home from the pub, put the TV on
[02:13] <daftykins> and because i'd hear an English word every now and then, be convinced i'd gone nuts
[02:13] <daftykins> i'd sit there furrowing my eyebrows at the TV for ages until i realised it was on S4C :(
[02:14] <shauno> heh, yeah.  I used to get s4c in barrow, because I had a better line of sight to anglesea than the tower we were meant to be on
[02:15] <shauno> ah, there we are
[02:15] <shauno> TG4 (Irish: TG Ceathair or TG a Ceathair; pronounced [tiː dʒiː kʲahəɾʲ]) is a public service broadcaster for Irish-language speakers.  - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TG4
[02:15] <ali1234> speaking of terrestrial tv, has anyone got a working dvb-t2 (HD) usb tuner?
[02:16] <daftykins> i've never heard irish
[02:16] <ali1234> according to linux tv wiki there's only two, one is work in progress and the other is not supported
[02:16] <shauno> if you've heard scots' gaelic, it's not far off
[02:17] <daftykins> lol WIP and unsupported, great
[02:18] <daftykins> must sleep, nn o/
[02:18] <shauno> main reason I have cable here, is because the only other option is dsl via the national telco, and they're pure f*n evil
[02:19] <shauno> atleast ntl are just incompetent.  eircomm are evil by design.
[02:21] <shauno> if nothing else, ntl atleast reply to the **AA's with "sure, just get a court order"  instead of eircomm's "sure thing buddy"
[06:44] <knightwise> Good morning everyone
[06:44] <knightwise> how are you ding today ?
[08:32] <danfish> hello hello
[08:33] <danfish> stunning weather - time to get the home automation project back on track :)
[08:34] <MartijnVdS> danfish: hmm.. inside.. solder smoke
[08:34] <MichealH> Hmm...
[08:34] <MichealH> W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Cannot initiate the connection to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (101: Network is unreachable)
[08:35] <MichealH> My connection is fine, how can I not get stuff from the gb archive?
[08:35] <MartijnVdS> MichealH: maybe their connection isn't fine :)
[08:36] <AlanBell> can you get it in a browser MichealH
[08:36] <AlanBell> any messing with proxies or apt-proxy stuff?
[08:37] <danfish> MartijnVdS: thankfully no - that's all done. Now for the exciting/fustrating part - putting it all together 'in the field'
[08:38] <MichealH> AlanBell: Hmm?
[08:38] <MichealH> I haven't touched my sources.list or anything, but this happens
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> MichealH: what happens if you try again?
[08:43] <MichealH> http://pastebin.com/j9yCJszU
[08:43] <MichealH> I need to afk
[08:43] <MichealH> So See Ya I guess
[08:43] <MichealH> :p
[08:49] <knightwise> morning everyone
[08:50] <AlanBell> MichealH: try "wget http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz"
[09:34] <danfish> I haven't used virtualbox for a year or so, but it's changed a lot from what I remember (for the better)
[09:34] <danfish> networking used to be a bit tricky
[09:42] <dwatkins> Yeah, virtualbox is pretty good for general use, although it doesn't have graphics drivers I could play games with quite yet.
[09:49] <kirior> hi all anyone got a second top help me with some simple startup scripts??
[09:49] <danfish> heh - unfortunately my gaming time is rather restricted these days due to the sproggles :)
[09:50] <danfish> kirior: ask away
[09:51] <kirior> so i would like to make my terminal to open up on my desktop and login as su every time i boot up. how do i do that
[09:53] <danfish> by su, do you mean root/sudo -i etc?
[09:54] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:55] <kirior> yes root, i got a password set so i don't have to write sudo every time a command require it
[09:55] <kirior> btw im n00b :)
[09:57] <danfish> kirior: np :)
[09:57] <danfish> if you look in System \ Preferences\ Sessions
[09:58] <danfish> and click on 'add'
[09:59] <danfish> in the name bit put what you want
[09:59] <kirior> sessions or startup applications ? i cannot find sessions :|
[10:00] <danfish> ah - startup applications
[10:00] <danfish> it changed, not sure when
[10:00] <danfish> which terminal prog do you use?
[10:03] <kirior> gnome terminal
[10:03] <kirior> if that is what you mean
[10:04] <danfish> yep
[10:04] <kirior> ok added that, now how do i make it log in as root? as soon as it will startup?
[10:05] <danfish> the command should be 'gnome-terminal -e 'sudo -i'
[10:07] <kirior> do i need ' between -e sudo -i?
[10:08] <kirior> no i dont need that :)
[10:50] <kirior> on VM when i done the shared folder there was an option for auto mounting which is ok but if i would like to do it from script how would that look like?
[11:16] <kirior> anyone can help me with virtual machine shared folder setup??
[11:24] <kirior> any1?
[11:25] <popey> kirior: i suspect most people are outside in the sun :)
[11:25] <popey> or asleep
[11:25] <brobostigon> or pub lunching?
[11:25] <kirior> hmm could be, U got minute or just about to go out?
[11:26] <popey> I'm afraid I dont know about your problem
[11:26] <brobostigon> me neither, sorry.
[11:26] <kirior> ok no worries :) at least someone replied :)
[11:27] <iulian> popey: Where do you live?
[11:27] <kirior> i'll try ubuntuforums
[11:27] <popey> iulian: UK
[11:27] <iulian> popey: Yea, I know but where exactly.
[11:27] <popey> Farnborough, Hampshire
[11:27] <popey> You're in London?
[11:28] <iulian> Yes.
[11:28] <popey> lovely day :)
[11:28] <iulian> Indeed, hence the question. :)
[11:53] <popey> bug
[11:53] <brobostigon> ?
[11:53] <popey> bug 768907
[13:23] <MichealH> AlanBell: michealh@serv:~$ wget http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[13:23] <MichealH> --2011-04-22 13:23:10--  http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[13:23] <MichealH> Resolving gb.archive.ubuntu.com... 2a01:450:10:1::10, <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:23] <MichealH> Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com|2a01:450:10:1::10|:80... failed: Network is unreachable.
[13:23] <MichealH> Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... failed: Network is unreachable.
[13:23] <brobostigon> !lucid
[13:29] <MichealH> brobostigon: I just cant install anything
[13:30] <brobostigon> MichealH: so you can ping the repo fine?
[13:30] <brobostigon> MichealH: and also manually with your webbrowser looking atthe repo.
[13:31] <MichealH> Yeah, on my PC I can
[13:31] <MichealH> apt works fine
[13:31] <MichealH> but on my server, nope :/
[13:32] <brobostigon> MichealH: have your checked its dns setup?
[13:32] <AlanBell> dns is fine
[13:32] <AlanBell> he got an IP address
[13:32] <popey> indeed
[13:32] <brobostigon> true, sorry.
[13:32] <popey> MichealH: what does 'mtr gb.archive.ubuntu.com' return?
[13:32] <popey> from the server
[13:33] <MichealH> It does not seem to send packets
[13:33] <popey> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:33] <popey> from the server
[13:33] <popey> i suspect your routing is screwy
[13:34] <MichealH> connect: Network is unreachable
[13:34] <popey> are you ssh'ed to your server from your pc?
[13:34] <MartijnVdS> and "ip route" ?
[13:34] <MichealH> I have edited my /etc/network/interfaces.. if that helps
[13:34] <MichealH> popey: Yeah
[13:34] <popey> MichealH: that probably screwed it
[13:34] <popey> MichealH: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[13:34] <popey> I suspect you have no default gateway specified
[13:35] <MichealH> Oh, I see a typo in my netmasl
[13:35] <MichealH> *netmask
[13:35] <MichealH> brb
[13:35] <MichealH> :P
[13:36] <MichealH> For those intrested in the typo: http://pastebin.com/CLVgeL70
[13:36] <daubers> Afternoon
[13:36] <popey> that'd do it
[13:36] <popey> lo daubers
[13:36]  * daubers returns from sailing on a boat for a week
[13:37] <MartijnVdS> daubers: wb!
[13:37] <MichealH> popey: I know it was supposed to be <IP_ADDRESS> :P
[13:37] <MichealH> wb, daubers
[13:37] <popey> anyone got any suggestions about bug 768907
[13:38] <popey> this isthe final bug which is stopping me doing any screencasting
[13:39] <MichealH> I got it working
[13:39] <MichealH> God, I feel like a idiot now :P
[13:47]  * daubers waits for natty to become up to date
[13:48] <popey> gaahhahahahahaha
[13:48] <popey> bug 768958
[13:50] <daubers> Ooooh, could have a shower
[13:51] <dwatkins> popey: bah, how annoying
[13:51] <czajkowski> Aloha folks
[13:51] <Pendulum> hiya czajkowski
[13:52] <daubers> o/
[13:53] <daubers> Shower then tea and cake I think
[13:57] <dwatkins> mmm, cake
[13:57] <dwatkins> I should play more Portal 2 this evening so I can justify having cake.
[13:58] <dwatkins> I trust everyone is well this fine but slightly grey afternoon.
[13:58] <popey> super bright here
[14:00]  * Pendulum just remembered she has cake in the fridge
[14:00] <dwatkins> I'm north of the wall (Hadrian's, that is), so I guess we get all the bad weather ;)
[14:00] <Pendulum> vanilla chiffon with passion fruit buttercream frosting :D
[14:00] <dwatkins> Yay for cake!
[14:00] <dwatkins> Sounds yummy, Pendulum.
[14:00] <Pendulum> it is!
[14:01] <Pendulum> I will have some later :)
[14:01] <Pendulum> although I might also go out and buy some sort of cake involving chocolate
[14:01] <dwatkins> Such restraint.
[14:01] <Pendulum> because there is not enough chocolate in my house
[14:01] <dwatkins> I think chocolate is a must this weekend.
[14:01] <Pendulum> and Easter will probably all be pies :(
[14:02] <dwatkins> I made a point of buying lots of chocolate today so we have plenty of choice.
[14:02] <Pendulum> I'm on my own other than dinner on Easter so am mostly not bothering
[14:02] <Pendulum> usually I buy chocolate the day after Easter instead
[14:02] <Pendulum> (it's like buying chocolate on Feb 15th)
[14:02] <dwatkins> cunning plan
[14:13] <Neoti> hi all . i placed some files in ubuntu one last night from my phone and there not synced its been 14 hours now and it still just says syncronising... theres 230MB of photos, now i also placed half these in drop box and there all synced and stuff but ubuntu one has not synced any files... any help ?
[14:41] <Neoti> hi all . i placed some files in ubuntu one last night from my phone and there not synced its been 14 hours now and it still just says syncronising... theres 230MB of photos, now i also placed half these in drop box and there all synced and stuff but ubuntu one has not synced any files... any help ?
[14:42] <directhex> Neoti, "u1sdtool -s" will report u1's status
[14:42] <directhex> you can reboot it with "u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool --start"
[14:43] <Neoti> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[14:43] <Neoti>     connection: With User With Network
[14:43] <Neoti>     description: processing queues
[14:43] <Neoti>     is_connected: True
[14:43] <Neoti>     is_error: False
[14:43] <Neoti>     is_online: True
[14:43] <Neoti>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[14:44] <MartijnVdS> Neoti: that means it's syncing
[14:44] <MartijnVdS> !pastebin | Neoti, also
[14:44] <Neoti> but its been this way for 14 + Hours now i only want to sync 230MB ... dropbox did it in less than 1 hour ... thats what i cant under stand ?
[14:45] <MartijnVdS> Neoti: what do u1sdtool --waiting say?
[14:47] <shauno> don't supose it's aws fallout?
[14:47] <MartijnVdS> could be
[14:47] <Neoti> it lists all files i want to sync
[14:49] <Neoti> is there currently a problem with ubuntu one ? can anyone else place a simple photo in ubuntu one and see if it uploads etc ...
[14:50] <Neoti> i need this folder to sync so i can switch off the computer and take my laptop out with me once synced etc ...
[14:52] <MartijnVdS> !ubuntuone
[14:52] <MartijnVdS> Neoti: have you tried that channel?
[14:53] <Neoti> i did do a search for a ubuntu one channel before trying here plus google... but i shall try in this channel now ... thanks ...
[14:53] <MartijnVdS> good luck
[15:05] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Michael Wood] Media explorer - http://www.michaelwood.me.uk/wordpress/2011/04/22/media-explorer/
[15:54] <scoundrel50a> Is there an app for the Tomboy notes for Amdroid phones?
[15:54] <scoundrel50a> Also can you connect to Ubuntu One using your android phone?
[15:55] <DJones> scoundrel50a: I seem to remember there was omething called tomtroid for tomboy notes on android
[15:56] <DJones> https://launchpad.net/tomdroid
[15:57] <DJones> Yep, its there https://market.android.com/details?id=org.tomdroid&feature=search_result
[15:57] <scoundrel50a> Oh, that looks interesting, any body tried it? I will give it a go. I just found the Ubuntu One site, and it has an app for Android, so will have a look at that too. Thank you
[16:04] <venmx> hi, i want to be able to ssh into my ubuntu laptop without having to login and with the lid closed, is this possible?
[16:08] <directhex> venmx, you need to prevent it from sleeping when you close the lid
[16:08] <directhex> systerm, preferences, power management
[16:08] <venmx> i think i did that, but if i dont login it doesnt work
[16:08] <venmx> is there a way to do this in a config file?
[16:09] <directhex> hm... you use wifi?
[16:10] <venmx> no, its wired in, eth0
[16:10] <venmx> not that bug, i got it in /etc/network/... its ok in that department anyway
[16:11] <venmx> i wanted to be able to use this lappy closed all the time
[16:15] <venmx> sry my bad.... default for all users ;)
[16:28] <Seeker`> Bah, why does my sound suddenly go quieter for a second, then really loud, then back to normal
[16:32] <ali1234> wow... telling people the wrong time and date for a meeting, then acting surprised when they don't show up... real classy
[17:07] <daubers> right! Applied for Finance with OU, filled in a v62 as VW Newbury failed to file some paperwork, bit further on code and hungry now
[19:05] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Ralph Janke] Ubuntu Natty Release Party in Kitchener-Waterloo on Saturday, 30 April 2011 - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/ubuntu-natty-release-party-kitchener-waterloo-saturday-30-april-2011
[19:27] <suprengr> \o/  happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthay dear suprengr, happy birthday to me.
[19:30]  * DJones says happy birthday to suprengr, but points out that singing has just caused torrential rain, hailstones, thunder & lightening
[19:31]  * suprengr thinks better hum it next year... no more singing!   -   & cheers DJones
[19:37] <penguin42> suprengr: Hey happy birthday
[19:39] <suprengr> thanks & cheers to you penguin42
[19:39] <matti> suprengr: :-)
[19:40] <DJones> suprengr: At least it saved me watering the plants I've still got to put in the garden
[19:40] <suprengr> thanks & cheers to you as well matti
[19:42] <suprengr> DJones: plants, soil & animals need water atm... this is not seasonal... begging for mercy all round
[19:43] <DJones> Heh
[20:25] <Azelphur> that microsd card company doesn't seem to be replying to my email lol
[20:25] <Azelphur> so basically I'm stuffed, amazon won't do anything, they have my money and my card \o/
[20:26] <Azelphur> oh well :(
[20:48] <popey> Azelphur: small claims court?
[20:48] <Azelphur> dunno if it's worth it for £30
[21:09] <gord> leave a nasty review
[21:09] <gord> that'll show em
[21:11] <Azelphur> gord can't because I already left feedback xD
[21:12] <Azelphur> they screwed me over on warranty
[21:13] <marsilainen> redirect all your junk mail to them
[21:16] <Azelphur> sounds fun
[21:31] <popey> evening all
[21:31] <popey> btw
[21:34] <gord> making rollercoasters is much more fun now with powered rails :) feels quite realistic
[21:34] <gord> no loops though :(
[21:43] <hamitron> popey: need more gold and redstone
[21:43] <hamitron> ;)
[21:43] <hamitron> if you got any
[21:45] <popey> :)
[21:51] <gord> note to self, make sure xchat channel column is wide enough to tell the difference between #ubuntu-uk and #ubuntu-uk-minecraft
[21:55] <Azelphur> gord: but that's no fun
[21:57] <Azelphur> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648158 win :D
[22:00]  * daubers throws together a quick django db
[22:03] <hamitron> ty
[22:23] <hamitron> rail to castle now works fully
[22:23] <hamitron> :D
[22:51] <shauno> ugh.  silly standby thing on the cable box.  pops up and tells me I haven't interacted with it lately, so it's gonna go sleep now.
[22:51] <shauno> a 2 minute race to find the remote :/
[23:03] <gord> really?
[23:03] <gord> thats awful
[23:03] <jacobw> interact with me plz :o kthnxbye
[23:03] <shauno> heh.  that's exactly what it does
[23:03] <shauno> if you don't touch the remote at all for 3 hours, it gives you a 2 minute warning that it's going to sleep
[23:04] <DJones> shauno: What happens if you're watching some long depressing 4 hour film, does it still want to switch off
[23:04] <shauno> DJones: if you don't touch the remote at all, yes
[23:05] <bigcalm> shauno: VM?
[23:05] <gord> surely there must be a setting for that
[23:05] <DJones> Sounds rather stupid
[23:06] <shauno> there is.  1 hour, 2 hours, or 3 hours
[23:06] <shauno> bigcalm: not sure what you mean vm ?
[23:06] <bigcalm> VirginMedia
[23:07] <shauno> oh, no.  upc/ntl
[23:08] <shauno> (.ie .. I'm aware ntl there are virgin now.  they're not here :)
[23:08] <shauno> or was that telewest.  hard to keep track from a distance
[23:08] <Azelphur> yay, my internets up for 5 minutes :D
[23:08]  * Azelphur downloads everything like crazy
[23:11] <hamitron> :)
[23:11] <shauno> I'm all for things being clever about their power consumption.  but that's not clever.  that's guessing.
[23:12] <hamitron> clever would be 3 hours or after the current program... whichever comes later
[23:12] <shauno> if they wanna be clever, they should 'spot' the "film4 has gone to sleep" screen, and knock the box (and the telly) off if it's left on for x minutes
[23:14] <hamitron> parents tv goes off if left and no program is set in the scedule
[23:14] <hamitron> which is good, but it is annoying having to click OK on everything you want to watch
[23:17] <shauno> I just don't want the TV to talk back.  I've got a laptop for that.
[23:17] <shauno> if it has to ask, it's probably got it wrong
[23:18] <shauno> I get the impression that I'm just being punished for being too lazy to mute the adverts
[23:20] <hamitron> haha
[23:36]  * DJones considers giving up, I've just been asked the question, What do you call people from Tokyo? Tokians?.......Erm.. Do you mean Japanese....Oh yeah :)
[23:40] <bigcalm> What do you call people from London?
[23:40] <jacobw> i once heard a girl taking a level geography ask whether japan was an island..
[23:40] <bigcalm> 'lost', if they are up here
[23:41] <jacobw> bigcalm: many things not for this channel :o
[23:41] <bigcalm> Nope, it's more than 1 island
[23:41] <bigcalm> Heh
[23:41] <jacobw> pedant
[23:41] <bigcalm> :P
[23:43] <ali1234> 4 isn;t it?
[23:43] <ali1234> ok, 6852
[23:43] <ali1234> i was close
[23:43] <shauno> DJones: edokko  (or tokyoite)  :)
[23:44] <DJones> :)
[23:44] <shauno> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjectivals_and_demonyms_for_cities
[23:55] <Azelphur> Hmm, I really want to do drupal 7 multi site :p
[23:55] <Azelphur> but I can't really understand it
[23:55] <Azelphur> does anyone know how it actually works beyond "multi site"? I don't really understand xD
[23:56]  * popey tickles bigcalm
[23:57] <ali1234> nobody can understand drupal except the authors
[23:57] <Azelphur> ali1234: haha, I do pretty good with drupal :D
[23:57] <ali1234> and they would rather sell their books than write good documentation
[23:57] <Azelphur> :o
[23:57] <ali1234> hey does drupal 7 support images yet?
[23:57] <ali1234> or do i still need to use a manky plugin?
[23:58] <Azelphur> seems reasonably good image wise here http://fasttrack-khadgar.com/ :p
[23:58] <Azelphur> (Joined a wow guild, took the opportunity to play with d7 xD)
[23:58] <popey> i see no images
[23:58] <popey> inline
[23:58] <ali1234> me neither
[23:58] <Azelphur> http://fasttrack-khadgar.com/forums/topic/post-your-picture-thread
[23:58] <Azelphur> nope, no inline images
[23:58]  * Azelphur runs
[23:59] <ali1234> that's some kind of forum thing...
[23:59] <Azelphur> ali1234: that's the drupal forum.
[23:59] <ali1234> it has a forum now?
[23:59] <ali1234> or is it a plugin?
[23:59] <Azelphur> It always has done.
[23:59] <Azelphur> the forum itself is core
[23:59] <ali1234> the version on my website does not have a forum
[23:59] <Azelphur> but I've got some plugins loaded to spruce it up a bit.
[23:59] <Azelphur> ali1234: it's not loaded by default but it does ship with it


[00:15] <phoenixz> Okay, so Kubuntu 15.04 (for me anyway) is the worst version of all, and this weekend I'll return to 14.10, its unusable. I think I can say "literally" nothing works as it should, and I have a long long list of problems to report, but even that is problematic. For example, I want to try to submit a bug for amarok, but in https://bugs.launchpad.net , I don't see a way to do this
[00:16] <est31> I agree kubuntu 15.04 is shit
[00:16] <est31> it really is
[00:16] <phoenixz> Also, where are updates? previous releases all had loads of updates with fixes coming out in the weeks after release.. 15.04 has been out nearly amonth, and I have had a few updates, which fixed nothing
[00:16] <est31> yea
[00:16] <est31> thats the main issue
[00:16] <est31> thats exactly the reason why I always update one month later
[00:17] <phoenixz> sddm SUCKS, literally freezes 9 out of 10 times,.. I reboot, black screen,go to shell, try to restart that manually.. 10 times or so,yaaayy,got a login screen
[00:17] <est31> all my widgets were deleted
[00:17] <phoenixz> network manager VPN disconnects every 2 minutes, forget about using a VPN through that.. Not that it matters, sometimes it suddenly loses allnetwork connections
[00:17] <est31> even okular looks crappy now
[00:17] <phoenixz> amarok freezes for about a minute after it starts a new song
[00:18] <est31> vlc is broken
[00:18] <phoenixz> krunner is simply DEAD.. alt-f2, and it just sits there, frozen
[00:18] <phoenixz> I have to kill the process, restart it, and alt-f2, frozen..
[00:18] <phoenixz> quassel works, then I reboot, I start quassel automatically and it shows the SDDM login screen, yay.. Ihave to remove all quassel files, start over, and it works again.. until next reboot
[00:19] <phoenixz> If in firefox I try to save an image.. the file requester window takes about a minute to show up
[00:19] <phoenixz> kwin crashes about 3 times per day
[00:20] <phoenixz> try using netflix in chrome, do it full screen, press pause, blackscreen, sddm login again! yay, at least it didnt freeze again
[00:20] <est31> I'm not using ubuntu because I'm a newbie, but to have it stable
[00:20] <est31> and right now its disappointing me fully
[00:20] <est31> I've tried to change settings, what happens?
[00:20] <est31> it crashes
[00:20] <est31> yaay
[00:20] <phoenixz> If the lock screen comes up, it doesn't come up, it simply shows the windows, videos even if thats polaying, it just blocks mouseand keyboard.. I have to ram the keyboard for about 3 minutes before finally I see a lock screen and I can unlock it and do somethign again
[00:22] <phoenixz> close laptop lid > suspend? hah! suspend doesnt work anyway if I try to do it manually, but closing the lid doesnt do shit.. which was nice because the first time I did not think about it and put my laptop in the laptop case, and it went until the laptop overheated and did a direct shutdown.. At least Kubunt did not burn down my laptop, Isuppose I'm happy
[00:22] <est31> my vlc segfaults when I just want to *list* my open music
[00:22] <phoenixz> Even the frigging bug report system ... How? where?documentation is all about "Use apport"... great! How do I use apport on a program that freezes? half the time it doesn't fire anyway
[00:23] <phoenixz> ah, CTRL-DEL does not delete the word before the cursor anymore as it used to do for the LAST 10 YEARS
[00:23] <phoenixz> I would try keyboard mapping if I did not already know that Kubuntu won't save those settings
[00:24] <est31> I had set up to have three fingers touch make middle mouse click
[00:24] <est31> setting lost
[00:24] <phoenixz> 15.04 is by far the worst piece of.. that I've seen, and I've been with Kubuntu for about 10 years now
[00:24] <est31> thants!
[00:24] <est31> k*
[00:24] <est31> its my 5th year now
[00:25] <phoenixz> 14.10 had some minor issues left and right to get ot work but... 15.04 is a disaster over the entire board
[00:25] <est31> or 4th
[00:25] <phoenixz> plasmashell crashes regularly too by the way
[00:26] <phoenixz> kdeconnect works on and off (more off), I've not even tried there anymore, it has become a "whatever"{
[00:27] <est31> do you have this too in the upper left corner ? http://pasteboard.co/q01g0pr.png
[00:27] <est31> I mean, what should this show?
[00:27] <est31> its just horribly ugly
[00:28] <OerHeks> est click on it :-)
[00:29] <est31> I mean this one is ok, http://pasteboard.co/q086MH6.png
[00:29] <phoenixz> est31: What am I suppsed to see in the upper left corner?
[00:29] <est31> wha I've shared in the first image
[00:29] <est31> dunno, perhaps migrating widgets worked for you
[00:29] <est31> for me it didnt
[00:29] <phoenixz> Is there anybody who can tell me if all this is normal?
[00:30] <phoenixz> network manager sometimes just loses all network devices, wired or wireless, leaving me with no other option than to reboot
[00:30] <phoenixz> power management is no longer notifying me when battery is nearly empty.. Its great fun when my laptop just suddenly dies off
[00:31] <phoenixz> Going alt-shift-f1 to text console, and then alt-f7 back to KDE, in about 10% of the cases shows a completely mangled screen with triangles from different windows stacking over eachother
[00:31] <est31> I really don't get it
[00:32] <phoenixz> I think yakuake is about the only KDE program that is not completely messed up
[00:32] <est31> when I download the deb for vlc on my desktop, extract it manually, and run ./vlc, it shows me the ppa "revision"
[00:33] <phoenixz> I use encrypted machine, and for every single time I use sudo, I get "Password entry required for 'Please enter passphrase for disk kubuntu--vg-swap_1 (cryptswap1) on none!' (PID 25595). Please enter password with the systemd-tty-ask-password-agent tool!" spammed on every console.. I have about 15 consoles open, so imagine the joy!!!
[00:33] <phoenixz> Not that it matters anyway, because I cannot enter the swap password anywhere anyway
[00:33] <est31> I had that nice bug too
[00:33] <est31> with opensuse
[00:33] <est31> and systemd
[00:34] <est31> thats not kubuntu's fault, its systemd's
[00:34] <OerHeks> est31, nice going, not mentioning "when I download the deb for vlc" go on with your rant please !
[00:34]  * OerHeks facepalms
[00:34] <est31> OerHeks ??
[00:35] <OerHeks> est31, first complaining about vlc, giving errors, that is not how to install/use software.
[00:36] <est31> OerHeks, I wanted to confirm that my /usr/bin/vlc is acutually really the one thats officially in kubuntu
[00:36] <est31> not that ppa stuff
[00:36] <est31> I havent installed it
[00:36] <est31> the deb file
[00:36] <phoenixz> So sorry for my rant, but I've lost days worth of working by now.. I will be downgrading to Kubuntu 14.10 this upcoming weekend.. I want to report bugs but even that is not a simple issue.. So can somebody tell me how I can easily report a bug for Amarok, for example?
[00:36] <est31> just extracted it to find out whether files match
[00:41] <est31> I mean this is interesting.
[00:41] <est31> it means that vlc uses something else than its own binary file to store its version
[00:55] <est31> yaay upgrade also totally garbled up default programs to open files with
[01:03] <est31> ah I see now
[01:03] <est31> thanks to strace I've found out that it opens /usr/lib/libvlccore.so.8
[01:04] <est31> which is provided by libvlccore8
[01:04] <est31> which again has version 2.2.0+ppa2.4
[01:08] <est31> aah
[01:09] <est31> ok that vlc crash wasn't its fault
[01:09] <est31> still it looks shitty
[01:09] <est31> before at 14.10, vlc okular and other applications looked great
[01:12] <est31> it seems its running in gtk compatibility mode
[01:12] <est31> while I'm running kde
[01:15] <est31> aand again an unwanted file indexing daemon
[01:15]  * est31 wonders how to get rid of baloo file
[01:15] <est31> OerHeks, any ideas?
[01:16] <est31> haha http://askubuntu.com/questions/437635/how-to-turn-off-baloo-in-kde-4-13
[01:16] <est31> what do you think I have inside that file
[01:17] <est31> "Indexing-Enabled=false"
[01:17] <est31> and still baloo requires 100% of my CPU
[01:38] <phoenixz> est31: Ah! Balloo! The number one "Hey what's hogging my CPU at 150%?"
[01:38] <phoenixz> est31: And let me guess, part of the desktop search that I never wanted to use since like 5 years ago where it too, was hoggn my CPU all the time when it was called something different..
[01:38] <phoenixz> So if I may add to the list
[01:39] <phoenixz> Ballo sucks.. Some 5 times per day its hoggng my CPU at 100+% and I have to kill it to be able to work notmally
[01:39] <phoenixz> shift+del doesn't work anymore, though that too has worked for like 10 years
[01:40] <phoenixz> gwenview, when I try to delete an image, I select delete from the menu (the gwenviewe menus  show sssllowwww by the way), and then nothing happens for about 30 seconds, then finally the "are yousure" requester showsup
[01:40] <phoenixz> How many bugs am I at? 20 already?
[02:23] <andyr0ck> wait, you guys are actually going down the 'upgrade path'?
[02:24] <zero-one_> hello
[03:17] <markc> will there be an official 15.04.1 point release for kubuntu soon?
[03:19] <est31> as it seems, they want us to suffer from ugly bugs
[03:26] <OerHeks> markc, 12 may https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/15.04_Release_Schedule
[03:33] <est31> next bug: when you go to the top left corner, it doesnt close a maximized window anymore
[03:33] <est31> I'm not sure though whether it was the case in 14.10
[03:33] <est31> perhaps my imagination :)
[04:02] <gunndawg> How come when I open Startup Disk creator and click "Other" to add an ISO to the list it wont add the ISO I select? I click on it then it just goes back to startup disk creator without adding hte ISO
[04:04] <est31> very interesting
[04:04] <est31> gunndawg, I have that too
[04:05] <est31> so its either bad ux of the tool or an actual bug
[04:05] <gunndawg> est31: Quite annoying
[04:05] <est31> on which distro are you on?
[04:06] <gunndawg> est31: Kubuntu 14.04
[04:06] <gunndawg> est31: would really like to get this arch linux image onto a USB so I can pass it over to a different machine. this is annoying
[04:07] <gunndawg> I'll try unetbootin
[04:07] <est31> or just do dd
[04:07] <est31> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Creating_Arch_Linux_disk_image#Archiso
[04:07] <est31> the arch wiki sais this should work
[04:09] <gunndawg> est31: looks like unetbootin did it
[04:09] <est31> fine
[04:09] <gunndawg> no reason to be upset about it, just went a different route
[04:38] <egeste> Hello, friendly KDE users. I've stumbled on a problem in $uname -a -> Linux dafeelz2 3.19.0-16-generic #16-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 30 16:09:58 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux where the bottom portion of my screen appears to not be rendering? Screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/od98jGX.jpg
[04:39] <egeste> Thus far I've tried moving my plasma .config files, rebooting several times, restarting sddm, moving my kwin .config files, etc
[04:39] <egeste> I can't seem to find anything about it
[04:51] <egeste> brb, reboot
[06:52] <alvin> Wallpaper too short?
[09:13] <adry8080> salve a tutti
[09:17] <adry8080_> ciao a tutti
[09:17] <adry8080_> [11:15] <adry8080> io vorrei sapere come mai non mi apre piu la finestra software center si apre ma non mi da nessuna immagine
[09:18] <adry8080_> ki mi puo aiutare grazie
[09:20] <adriano1980> SALVE
[09:20] <adriano1980> qualcuno mi sa aiutare
[09:21] <adriano1980> io vorrei sapere come mai non mi apre piu la finestra software center si apre ma non mi da nessuna immagine grazie
[09:37] <hateball> !it | adriano1980
[09:55] <mo_> I adjusted the backlight brightness to 50%, after I reboot, it's 50% before I login(it's 50% in the login screen), but after I input my password, it will jump to 100% at login load screen, any idea?
[10:23] <Guest94488> hi all, there are people speaking in russian?
[10:25] <hateball> !ru | Guest94488
[10:31] <BarnaSzalai> hey
[10:33] <BarnaSzalai> can you help me plz? I use 15.04 Plasma 5 desktop, with laptop and a monitor. when I disconnect the monitor and use only the laptop, some apps start "hidden", so kubuntu doesn't recognize there isn't a montor attached
[10:33] <BarnaSzalai> how can I solve this?
[10:33] <BarnaSzalai> btw. ubuntu with Unity worked well
[10:34] <BarnaSzalai> hidden I mean not on the laptop's screen, I have to move the app window always
[10:35] <BarnaSzalai> very annoying
[10:35] <BarnaSzalai> checked system setting but didn't find any related option
[10:36] <hateball> BarnaSzalai: ah, so the apps remember the laptop monitor?
[10:36] <hateball> err, external monitor
[10:36] <hateball> hmmm
[10:36] <BarnaSzalai> yes
[10:36] <BarnaSzalai> exactrly
[10:37] <BarnaSzalai> i hardly think developers missed this situation with Plasma
[10:37] <hateball> So the scenario is you have $app on screen2. Close $app, unplug screen2, start $app, and it does not show on screen1 ?
[10:37] <BarnaSzalai> yes
[10:38] <hateball> I don't know if there is a setting to remember that.... I use two monitors and sometimes things launch on the screen last used
[10:38] <BarnaSzalai> but only the apps which were used on external monitor
[10:38] <hateball> BarnaSzalai: You could maybe make a kwin rule to work around it
[10:38] <hateball> Force all apps to always open on screen1
[10:38] <BarnaSzalai> hm
[10:38] <hateball> then you can manually move them if needed
[10:38] <BarnaSzalai> im new to kubuntu but will try that
[10:39] <BarnaSzalai> bash script?
[10:39] <hateball> no no
[10:39] <BarnaSzalai> or rule
[10:39] <hateball> BarnaSzalai: rightclick some windows title bar, more actions (or such) -> window rules
[10:39] <BarnaSzalai> ok
[10:39] <hateball> I dont use english locale so not sure of the wording
[10:40] <BarnaSzalai> np
[10:40] <hateball> BarnaSzalai: you can reach this by alt+f2 and searching for "rules" also
[10:41] <BarnaSzalai> thanks for the hint
[10:41] <hateball> so you should be able to make a rule that applies to nothing specific, that places on screen1 from the start
[10:41] <hateball> you will see there are some default rules in place already
[10:41] <hateball> There might be a more graceful way to handle this tho, I am just used to doing workaround :p
[10:42] <BarnaSzalai> yeah have to do some googling for it also
[10:42] <BarnaSzalai> maybe someone met this before
[10:44] <BarnaSzalai> so it's not a Plasma but KWin thing you think?
[10:44] <hateball> there are so many parts to this :)
[10:44] <hateball> kscreen handles remembering monitors
[10:44] <hateball> kwin does decorations and managment
[10:44] <BarnaSzalai> another thing, on start cairo dock always ask I want to use OpenGl, and press yes to permanently remember my choice. but it asks on every start :)
[10:45] <BarnaSzalai> ok
[10:45] <hateball> Oh I am not familiar with cairo dock, I use krunner (alt+f2) for everything
[10:45] <hateball> or global hotkeys
[10:46] <BarnaSzalai> sure its not kubuntu related ..
[10:53] <BarnaSzalai> i think the guy has the same problem, and yes the kscreen is the way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/292776/ubuntu-kde-standard-dual-monitor
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:08] <Bundestrojaner> hello
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hi Bundestrojaner
[11:09] <Bundestrojaner> is it possible to have a "copy-queue" on kubuntu?
[11:09] <Bundestrojaner> so when i copy some files in Dolphin and start another copy process, it should queue it and wait till the first is finished
[11:10] <Bundestrojaner> (like f.e. terracopy on windows)
[11:15] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: well, all copy operations are show in the notification applet, and you can pause them as like
[11:15] <hateball> but a "queue" as such, no
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Bundestrojaner, whay about rsync , sounds like the same thing as teracopy
[11:16] <BluesKaj> what
[11:16] <Bundestrojaner> BluesKaj: never used it, can i integrate it in Dolphin?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> !rsync | Bundestrojaner
[11:19] <Bundestrojaner> BluesKaj: i don't see any similarities between rsync and terracopy
[11:20] <Bundestrojaner> terrycopy "catches" copy-orders from windows explorer and executes them in an own queue
[11:20] <Bundestrojaner> rsync is a backup tool?
[11:21] <hateball> That's what it is primarily used for yes
[11:21] <BarnaSzalai> rsync, you know.. the boy group :>
[11:21] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: Did you look at my suggestion
[11:22] <Bundestrojaner> hateball: you mean pausing them in the notification?
[11:23] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: yeah, that's as good as it gets now
[11:23] <BluesKaj> rsync is more than just a backup tool , but Iwon'r elaborate, the URL says it all
[11:23] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: otherwise you can make yourself heard at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296109
[11:24] <Bundestrojaner> hateball: it's what i usually do, it still has a huge impact on copy datarate
[11:25] <Bundestrojaner> maybe it's a motivation to continue working on my own filemanager (written in QT)
[11:27] <hateball> Google suggest this http://ultracopier.first-world.info/ but I have no idea
[11:27] <hateball> Maybe that's yours? ;D
[11:28] <Bundestrojaner> hateball: i've never published it, it's very far away from being finished^^
[11:29] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: Some additional googling suggests that krusader has this functionality
[11:29] <hateball> !info krusader
[11:30] <Bundestrojaner> hateball: thx, i'll have a look at it
[11:30] <BarnaSzalai> have you observed, when I copy a big file eg. a divx movie to a pendrive, at the end (99%)I have to wait for ~1 sec until the copy finished. why is that?
[11:30] <hateball> write caches syncing
[11:30] <BarnaSzalai> its only on ubuntu not on windows
[11:30] <BarnaSzalai> is it normal?
[11:31] <hateball> Yes, but if you want you can mount the devices so that changes are written at once
[11:31] <hateball> This gives you worse performance however
[11:31] <BarnaSzalai> performance?
[11:31] <BarnaSzalai> Mb/sec ?
[11:31] <hateball> Yes
[11:32] <BarnaSzalai> even on usb 3.0 interface?
[11:33] <BarnaSzalai> is it ok when I add the device uuid in the fstab?
[11:33] <hateball> BarnaSzalai: here's a nice read http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/146620/difference-between-sync-and-async-mount-options
[11:33] <BarnaSzalai> ty
[11:42] <BarnaSzalai> ah okay, windows tells you the copy is finished after filling the cache.. after that behind the scenes writes data to the target media.
[11:42] <BarnaSzalai> linux doesn't lie
[11:43] <BarnaSzalai> eheh
[12:49] <Irish_canon> hello... I am trying to mount a old flash card and having no luck and ideas
[12:49] <hateball> Irish_canon: what does 'dmesg' say when you plug it in?
[12:50] <Irish_canon> hateball: mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[12:58] <Irish_canon> any ideas what to do
[13:13] <BluesKaj> !kernel
[13:53] <Irish_canon> I have a scandisk card and I have lost the the partition... any ideas how to recover
[13:55] <rattking> testdisk is your best bet.. just make sure not to write anything to the card until its recovered.
[13:56] <Irish_canon> ive tried testdisk... the partition table isnt there .. unable to mount the card
[13:58] <rattking> so testdisk could not recover the partition table?
[13:58] <Irish_canon> when i run testdisk it only sees the local hard drive
[14:00] <Guest81992> Hi guys! What is mysqld? Is it used for baloo or something?
[14:00] <rattking> did you run it as root or with sudo?
[14:00] <Guest81992> I am not running a server, just desktop stuff.
[14:00] <Irish_canon> sudo
[14:00] <rattking> mysqld is the mysql database and yes baloo uses it
[14:00] <Guest81992> mysqld is taking up a lot of memory
[14:01] <Guest81992> This Kubuntu Plasma 5.3 installation is running for around 3-4GB RAM with only Firefox open.
[14:06] <Guest81992> What is the command for starting mysqld again?
[14:06] <Irish_canon> any other ideas how to recover the card
[14:07] <rattking> "sudo service mysql restart"
[14:08] <rattking> does the sdcard have a device node in /dev ? like /dev/sdb or something
[14:08] <Guest81992> rattking: Thanks. Isn't it systemd command?
[14:09] <rattking> I am sure there is a systemd specific one
[14:09] <rattking> you may also want to try a 'akonadictl restart' as your user no sudo
[14:10] <Guest81992> Doesn't work rattking. I am on Kubuntu 15.04.
[14:12] <rattking> anyway it looks like the systemd specific way is "systemctl restart mysql.service"
[14:14] <Irish_canon> First thing is first never use the most updated distro if you want reliability
[14:18] <Guest81992> Irish_canon: That was a tips for me? I am fine. Using it in a VM, so easy to keep snapshots or whatever.
[14:19] <Irish_canon> Ok..
[14:20] <Guest81992> But there is an annoying bug for Dolphin. My Places I have in the left column disappears when I close Dolphin.
[14:20] <Guest81992> I just get the default ones, the new shortcuts/places I have placed there disappear... Any workaround?
[14:21] <Irish_canon> this card will not mount.... any ideas how to recover it
[14:22] <Guest81992> Does it mount on other computers?
[14:22] <rattking> did it get overwritten?
[14:23] <Irish_canon> no... wasnt overwritten...
[14:24] <rattking> what happened it to?
[14:30] <Irish_canon> dont really know... and it doesnt mount on another system
[14:31] <rattking> do you have a second sd to USB adapter to try? or a second sdcard to try in that adapter? to start ruling out hardware
[14:32] <rattking> does the OS see the sdcard at all?
[14:32] <Irish_canon> no
[14:33] <rattking> I have seen usb sticks go completely dead like that before.. and there really isnt anything you can do about it unless you are really good with a soldering iron :)
[14:35] <Irish_canon> i have it in my reader and it lights up... just does show up in the fdisk -l or mounts automatically or in Gpart
[14:35] <Irish_canon> tried a different card and it works
[14:38] <rattking> ouch.. I dont know what to do then
[14:38] <Priya> ^05Hi all ^
[14:39] <Priya> ^05 Hi all ^
[15:13] <madmouser1> wow, upgraded to kubuntu 15.04 ... what a sleek and nice interface
[15:30] <Champion_The> yo, anyone has tried kernel 4.0x?
[15:31] <Champion_The> for kubuntu 15.04
[15:34] <OerHeks> Champion_The, you can try it, from the kernel ppa, but it would be wise to wait for the update > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[15:34] <Champion_The> I know that, I'm just curious, if the new kernel works well
[15:35] <Champion_The> I heard that 4.1 is better for intel graphics
[15:35] <Guest16742> How do I pin shortcut icons to the panel in Plasma 5.3?
[15:35] <Champion_The> do you think that Kubuntu 15.04 will move to 4x kernel?
[15:36] <OerHeks> 4.1 is in RC stage
[15:37] <Champion_The> yeah I know in future ...
[15:39] <OerHeks> Champion_The, if you want to have fun on the wild side, and help testing, go for it :-)
[15:43] <Guest16742> I disabled File Search (Baloo), but mysqld keeps on running with high memory use....
[16:18] <LucasHC> Hi there, I just installed the newest version of Kubuntu and encountered an error. It's not playing any sound, on Ubuntu it works. Is there a way to fix this? The aplay commands didn't work, and my sound card:
[16:18] <LucasHC> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[16:18] <LucasHC>         Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 3388
[16:19] <LucasHC>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 39
[16:19] <LucasHC>         Memory at c7500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[16:19] <LucasHC>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[16:19] <unopaste> LucasHC you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:20] <LucasHC> I'm sorry, I did not saw the paste link
[16:25] <BluesKaj> LucasHC, cat /proc/asound/modules to check for audio drivers
[16:27] <LucasHC> This is what I got: 0 snd_hda_intel
[16:28] <BluesKaj> ok tha card 0, which is good. run , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then open alsamixer and make sure no vol ctls are muted and automute is disabled
[16:29] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[16:30] <LucasHC> Thank you
[16:33] <LucasHC> I'm sorry to say but after the reboot the same problem occur
[16:37] <BluesKaj> LucasHC, setup the audio in systemsettings>multimedia>device preference and audio hardware setup outputs
[16:39] <LucasHC> unfortunately that didn't work
[16:39] <BluesKaj> explain didn't work , what are you trying?
[16:41] <LucasHC> I tried different audio output types, they didn't do anything even after pressing submit.
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ok then I've run out of ideas, and I have to leave now
[16:42] <BluesKaj> sorry I can't help any further
[18:46] <est31> to add to yesterday's rant: I've found yet another issue with 15.04
[18:46] <est31> when I change windows, they start to flicker
[18:46] <est31> basically at other occasions too
[18:46] <est31> barely useable that way :/
[18:46] <est31> any ideas on how to resolve this?
[18:49] <est31> this is the worst bug so far
[18:51] <jalcine> est31: this happened to me randomly too
[18:51] <jalcine> what are your compositer settings?
[18:51] <jalcine> I had mine on OpenGL 2.1 with GLX
[18:51] <jalcine> but switching to OpenGL 3.0 had them go away
[18:51] <jalcine> (or is it 2.0 / 3.1? let me check)
[18:51] <jalcine> (it's the latter)
[18:56] <est31> seems to work noe jalcine thanks :)
[19:00] <jalcine> :)
[19:27] <rufsketch1> hey all
[19:27] <rufsketch1> I'm not sure if it's still supported
[19:27] <rufsketch1> but
[19:28] <rufsketch1> I'm trying to update from 13.04 to 14.04, and then hopefully to 15.04
[19:29] <rufsketch1> however, the muon update process 404s.
[19:29] <rufsketch1> I ran sed -i -e 's/archive.ubuntu.com\|security.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:29] <rufsketch1> and did an apt-get update. But also 404s
[20:17] <mleocadio> hello
[20:17] <soee> hiho
[20:17] <mleocadio> just passing
[20:17] <mleocadio> bye
[20:18] <mleocadio> lol
[20:30] <tstrike39> Hey guys... wanted you to know how much I am enjoy Kubuntu 15.04     Great job so far devs
[20:38] <bprompt> tstrike39:   maybe you meant that for #kubuntu-devel =)
[20:40] <tstrike39> Ok I will drop over to them... enjoying the OS
[20:40] <tstrike39> seriously
[20:45] <nagerst> What package do i need to install to get the kayboard module in systemsettings (precise pangolin)
[20:47] <nagerst> keyboard*
[20:57] <est31> jalcine, it seems the issues are there again :(
[20:57] <est31> I do nothing else than click on another window's entry in the taskbar
[20:58] <est31> and then the windows start to rotate very fast
[20:58] <est31> all windows
[20:58] <est31> so first its changing to window a then to b then to c then to a again and so on
[21:11] <jalcine> hm, is this on a touchpad or with a physical mouse?
[21:12] <jalcine> that sounds like it's cycling windows instad of flickering
[21:56] <natman> I am unable to use the Yahoo emoiton pack in the IM client, anyone know how to fix it?
[21:59] <OerHeks> natman, maybe this pidgin page is any help ? https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartySmileyThemes
[22:00] <natman> OerHeks: how would i import then into the kde settings?
[22:02] <OerHeks> Never done that myself
[22:02] <natman> ok, thanks anyways
[22:03] <OerHeks> open kopete and see if you can import it in themes?
[22:53] <miloru> what makes plasma 5 better than plasma 4?


[00:00]  * curlyears once used bc to comp[ute 6^6^6 (The Number of the Beast from the Bible.   Had over 27,000 digits
[00:00] <genii> curlyears: I'm getting too tired to assist much more tonight.
[00:00] <penguin42> curlyears: This explains the state of your machine
[00:00] <curlyears> took my little 6Mhz MC68000 running Xenix over 8 hours to compute
[00:04] <curlyears> weird:  when I try to mount /tsarget, the system claims it's already mounted.  When I use umount /target, it says: umount: /target is not mounted (according to mtab)
[00:06] <curlyears> I  know what you mean, I've been doing it for 9 hours
[00:07] <curlyears> so, I mkdir /target, then mount /dev/sda /target and mount claims /dev/sda already mounted or /target busy
[00:08] <curlyears> I am not doinfg anyting that would explain /target being busy
[00:08] <curlyears> well, I appreciate all the help, thanks, guys!
[00:09] <genii> Maybe tomorrow
[00:09] <curlyears> I guess I'll give it a rest until tomorrow
[00:09] <curlyears> which area of Canada you in, genii?  I am in Lincoln, Nebraska
[00:09] <genii> Toronto, Ontario
[00:10] <curlyears> Ah, Toronto
[00:10] <curlyears> I have never been that far East, or North
[00:11] <curlyears> knight awl
[02:30] <PryMar56> how many digits in 999^999^999?  2,993,570
[02:31] <PryMar56>  NB=$(perl -MMath::BigFloat=lib,GMP -e 'print Math::BigFloat->bpow(Math::BigFloat->bpow(999,999),999),"\n"');echo ${#NB}
[02:37] <PryMar56>  1.46s to calculate ^
[07:38] <w0jtas1> hello , 16.04 fail to install over netboot, Can't exec "/usr/lib/tasksel/filter-tasks": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/tasksel line 343
[07:38] <w0jtas1> any toughts ?
[10:45] <w0jtas1> after installing tasksel from ubuntu mirror i have lack of filter-tasks file and it's causing i can't install system properly, any toughts ?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> !info tasksel
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: installed the one from repos?
[10:48] <w0jtas1> lotuspsychje: yes one from repo, it was updated yesterday 5:34pm so it could be broken i think
[10:48] <lotuspsychje_> w0jtas1: file a bug against it?
[10:49] <w0jtas1> where ? :)
[10:50] <lotuspsychje_> !bug | w0jtas1
[10:54] <w0jtas1> hmm but i am not sure if this file should be there or if installer shouldn't rely on this file ? :)
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: i would ubuntu-bug tasksel and describe your issue, if somethings not right a dev will surely follow up
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: xenial can use all the bugging out, so we have a clean solid Os in april
[10:57] <w0jtas1> ok , but ubuntu-bug - command not found
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: ubuntu-bug tasksel
[10:58] <w0jtas1> i am doing it in terminal, no desktop yet ( it fail to install os :) )
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: you need a package to bug against it
[10:58] <w0jtas1> bash: ubuntu-bug: command not found
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: what you mean fail to install?
[10:59] <w0jtas1> failed on step of "Select and install software"
[10:59] <w0jtas1> so i don't have anything on system yet
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[11:00] <w0jtas1> just empty target
[11:00] <w0jtas1> with base files
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: can you pastebin the output after sudo apt-get install tasksel?
[11:00] <w0jtas1> is ubuntu-bug part of which package so i can install it first ?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: no, ubuntu-bug needs to report against a packagename
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: meaning you have trouble with tasksel so ubuntu-bug tasksel
[11:01] <w0jtas1> lotuspsychje: i understand but i just ask about actually "ubuntu-bug" is part of what ?
[11:02] <w0jtas1> it doesn't come with linux kernel, must be some package or whatever else
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: man ubuntu-bug from terminal, its built-in
[11:04] <w0jtas1> ah ok let me try to boot into it then maybe just installer shell doesn't have it then
[11:05] <w0jtas1> no way, after booting into 16.04 ubuntu-bug just doesn't exists
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: what did you type in terminal?
[11:07] <w0jtas1> ubuntu-bug tasksel
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: and what does it reply
[11:07] <w0jtas1> -bash: ubuntu-bug: command not found
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: are you in livemode?
[11:08] <w0jtas1> no, just 16.04 installed without any packages
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: your on minimal?
[11:10] <w0jtas1> that's what could install so far, as i told it failed on installing whatever packages because tasksel is broken so it cannot install system fully at all
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: lets start from the beginning, wich iso of xenial did you download?
[11:12] <w0jtas1> i don't use iso, just netinstall
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: thats not good mate
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: use the xenial .iso from dialy builds
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> daily
[11:16] <w0jtas1> i have all system prepared for netinst
[11:17] <w0jtas1> in such case next daily will break once tasksel will be updated to newer right ?
[11:17] <w0jtas1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/1528530
[11:17] <w0jtas1> ok manage to post ;)
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: i dont think its reccomended to install xenial daily the netinstall way
[11:19] <w0jtas1> i think as long as we achieve what's the most important so the most important package is working it's better
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: well lets see what the devs will ask on your bug :p
[11:23] <lordievader> Netinstall is great :D
[11:25] <w0jtas1> how can i recommend patch to a package ?
[11:29] <w0jtas1> hmm i dont understand how those packages are working, it's written that it comes from debian repository which doesn't contain lots of files that are in tasksel_3.34ubuntu1.tar.gz, do devs somehow add extra stuff on top of debian package ? if so is there any repo for that or something else
[11:37] <brendand> w0jtas1, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel
[11:47] <w0jtas1> mhmm xenial is missing
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:05] <penguin42> Hey BK
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hey
[13:13] <w0jtas1> i am trying to make patch but checking manual tells me to run "bzr branch ubuntu:xenial/tasksel" which is failing:
[13:13] <w0jtas1> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/xenial/tasksel/".
[13:13] <w0jtas1> what can i do ? :)
[14:48] <curlyears> anyone see genii, k1|, or -TJ around?
[14:49] <curlyears> seen TJ-
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: TJ- is out, use TAB to see nicks you need
[14:49] <curlyears> I guess this bot dopesn't support that request  )-:
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !tab
[14:50] <curlyears> thanks, lotuspsychje
[14:51] <curlyears> lotuspsychje:  could you assist me in getiiing some vlumes mounted under 14.04 LTS Live Cd?
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: i followed your issue a bit yesterday, but chroot isnt my expertise sorry mate
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: but didnt your issue was trusty related instead of xenial?
[14:53] <curlyears> as far as I know, my distro is ccasper
[14:53] <curlyears> casper
[14:54] <curlyears> ohm right, trusty related.  Yes
[14:54] <curlyears> sorry, just woke up, still a tad bleary
[14:55] <curlyears> also my BG was 47 when I got up )-:
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: #ubuntu for trusty issues then
[14:56] <w0jtas1> ah didn't know devel is different channel as well....
[14:56] <w0jtas1> i could ask and ask and ask here ;)
[14:56] <curlyears> lotuspsychje:   yeah, I know, but TJ- suggested I  keep it in here to avoid "confusion"
[14:58] <curlyears> Ah, well.  I'll try #ubuntu until I cab locate TJ-, then
[14:58] <curlyears> thanks, all
[21:09] <curlyears> good afternoon, TJ-
[21:10] <curlyears> hello, all
[21:13] <curlyears> so, how far is Xenial from being released, at this point?
[21:13] <curlyears> !xenial
[21:14] <k1l> its alpha
[21:14] <k1l> or not even alpha
[21:18] <curlyears> k1l:  I realize that, I was just wondering how long you thik it will be before release.  Like, 1 month, 6 months, etc?
[21:18] <penguin42> it will be released in APril
[21:18] <k1l> 16.04 means 4th month in 2016
[21:19] <genii> curlyears: Ubuntu releases are all year.month.revision
[21:20] <curlyears> say, k1l:  I am having a new problem.  Reinstalled with the same DVD I have used before, but the new install won't boot, com,plaInis of "improper ELF magic" and a missing file, then drops me to grub rescue.
[21:20] <curlyears> ah, 161.04   got it
[21:20] <curlyears> I am install 14.04.2
[21:21] <curlyears> s/161/16/
[21:21] <k1l> curlyears: reinstall grub
[21:21] <curlyears> s/install/installing/
[21:21] <genii> "improper ELF magic" indicates wrong binary for the system it's trying to run on
[21:21] <k1l> did you again make complicated  install with lvm, btrfs and stuff you dont know about?
[21:22] <curlyears> k1l:  no, plaini vaNILLA INSTLL
[21:22] <genii> like a 64bit binary for a 32bit system, or ARM binary for an X86 system, etc
[21:22] <curlyears> this DVD has never done this before.   Hmmmm
[21:23] <curlyears> it's a 4 core 64 bit processor
[21:23] <k1l> boot the live dvd/usb. then do this "sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mnt"  where dev/sdxy is the partition with /. then "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx"
[21:48] <curlyears> what is teh filezsystem type, ext4?
[21:48] <k1l> wait, what do you need the filesystem for now?
[21:49] <k1l> if you want to spot your / partition: yes its ext4.
[21:54] <curlyears> hdow do install psatebinit again?   apt-get-install fails:  apt-get-install: command not found
[21:55] <k1l> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:55] <genii> no dash there after get
[21:55] <k1l> but you can use the pastebin webpage. its like uploading a photo, just with text.
[21:58] <penguin42> this seems scarily like yesterday
[21:58] <genii> Heh
[22:03] <k1l> i really dont know what he is doing all the time.
[22:10] <curlyeras> OK:  was this the correct command: sudo grub-install-root-directory=/mnt/dev/sdb
[22:11] <curlyeras> oops mistypeed ,yy nick   *blush*
[22:13] <curlyears> *sigh*
 boot the live dvd/usb. then do this "sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mnt"  where dev/sdxy is the partition with /. then "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx"
[22:14] <k1l> you need to adjust X and Y where X is a letter and Y is a number.
[22:18] <curlyears> what the?  I am issuing: pastebinit <(sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sdb)   and the system is giving me a ">" promkpt, as   if I hadn't closed the paren or something?
[22:23] <k1l> dont just put commands in that way.
[22:24] <k1l> you can copy the text in the terminal with your mouse. and paste that then into a pastebin webpage. its not rocket science.
[22:24] <k1l> and that command there ist still wrong.
[22:25] <k1l> i really dont understand why you cant even copy and paste a command and adjust one (1) character.
[22:26] <curlyears> that's what I did
 <k1l> boot the live dvd/usb. then do this "sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mnt"  where dev/sdxy is the partition with /. then "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx"
[22:27] <k1l> that is what i pasted you now 3 times
[22:27] <k1l> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sdb
[22:27] <k1l> that is the command you used.
[22:28] <k1l> my command: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx
[22:28] <k1l> your command: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sdb
[22:28] <curlyears> anyhow, I got the grub-install  to run, but it errored out with the following : grub-install: error: install device isn't specified.k1l:  the device was already mounted as sdb, under 3TB Volume
[22:28] <curlyears> so I just uised that path instead of the /sdb
[22:29] <curlyears> Imean as the path, sdb SHOULD work
[22:29] <curlyears> or do I havwe to use that horrid, 50 mile long uuid?
[22:30] <k1l> nope nope nope
[22:30] <k1l> you cant just mess the commands because you think it might be clever to change them
[22:30] <k1l> that is why you dont have a running ubuntu but a mess all the time
[22:31] <k1l> use the commands like they are meant to work. not like you think they should work
[22:31] <curlyears> I am not trying to be clever.  I copuldn't mount the drive to /mnt because it was already mounted
[22:32] <curlyears> I have been running 14.04 LTS since July, when I built the computer, thank you very much.  This is the first such probelm I have had
[22:33] <k1l> look at the difference in the command i gave you. you forgot half of the important command. the part where it should be installed to.
[22:33] <k1l> so that command cant work.
[22:35] <k1l> so please put into a pastebin webpage a "sudo parted -l" and show the link here. yes use the mouse to copy the text, then right click and select "copy" then put it into the webpage "paste.ubuntu.com" and show the result url in here.
[22:38] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14149792/
[22:39] <k1l> "sudo umount /dev/sdb2"  then "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt"   then" sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb"
[22:40] <k1l> then shut down, remove the usb/dvd and grub should work
[22:41] <curlyears> Installation finished. No error reported.
[22:41] <curlyears> shutting down
[22:49] <genii> I wonder if he put a dash or space now between /mnt and /dev/sdb


[14:45] <Andre_Gondim> hi dpm
[14:51] <dpm> hi Andre_Gondim
[14:51] <Andre_Gondim> dpm, everything is ok?
[14:53] <andrejz> dpm, kelemengabor call in 5 minutes is still on?
[14:53] <kelemengabor> I'm in
[14:54] <dpm> andrejz, kelemengabor I thought I'd have to postpone it, but let's do it :)
[14:54] <dpm> Andre_Gondim, everything's fine here, how are you?
[14:55] <Andre_Gondim> so nice :D
[14:55] <Andre_Gondim> dpm, I just want to know, why in oneiric we have 3 gcc version to translate
[14:56] <Andre_Gondim> why we just have the last version?
[14:56] <dpm> kelemengabor, you sorted out the gcc templates, perhaps you can give Andre_Gondim an answer. Andre_Gondim, in any case, we do have all versions in Ubuntu, and we're including all templates
[14:57] <kelemengabor> Andre_Gondim: because there are 3 versions in the archives
[14:58] <kelemengabor> previously, they were all set up improperly, to use the gcc domain, so there was only one template
[14:58] <kelemengabor> but this was wrong, gcc actually doesn't use the gcc domain, but gcc-X.Y, according to the actual version numbers
[14:59] <kelemengabor> this was sorted out, so we have three gcc-X.Y domains
[14:59] <kelemengabor> and those translations will actually work, for those who want gcc errors localized
[15:00] <dpm> kelemengabor, andrejz, dialing...
[15:01] <dpm> andrejz, can you hear us?
[15:01] <Andre_Gondim> but they don't share the translate like others project?
[15:01] <kelemengabor> Andre_Gondim: good question, probably not
[15:02] <kelemengabor> at least I didn't set it up
[15:04] <Andre_Gondim> ok, now I unterstaind
[15:05] <kelemengabor> and I don't seem to have rights to do it :(
[15:11] <trijntje> dpm: is there any news on the localised iso images?
[15:11] <trijntje> ow wait, you guy's are on the phone, sorry
[15:17] <kelemengabor> trijntje: I see you :)
[15:25] <kelemengabor> trijntje: dpm says that the tools are there, but Canonical hasn't decided what can we change, until that, there won't be a big announcement, and our isos won't be called official remixes
[15:25] <kelemengabor> and advertised and all
[15:26] <kelemengabor> probably this project will be done for the next cycle, but not for this on
[15:26] <kelemengabor> e
[15:28] <trijntje> kelemengabor: thanks! Too bad it wont be done for oneiric, I think its a cool project. But I guess I'll need to be patient ;)
[16:39] <kelemengabor> dpm: I know now, what did I forgot to ask: what about these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/
[16:40] <kelemengabor> is there anyone to push these into the packages?
[16:42] <dpm> kelemengabor, not really, no. There was some push to have all translations in, but now that most languages are translated, afaik the developers don't upload new translations unless there is a specific request. Chromium can be deleted from there because the desktop file is now handled in LP, FF+Thunderbird will -hopefully- be handled in LP at some point next cycle. LO, well, I need to talk to the maintainer to get to know the current status
[16:43] <kelemengabor> we have bugs and nervous translators for LO :(
[16:44] <kelemengabor> like bug #784081
[16:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 784081 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Translations of menu items have to be imported (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784081
[16:45] <kelemengabor> and bug #774020
[16:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 774020 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Menu of Draw in zh_TW translation is not included in Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774020
[19:07] <dpm> hm yeah, we should probably check if the zh_TW issue is at least fixed in Oneiric
[19:21] <dpm> ok, oneiric stats are ready, and now we can update them daily!
[19:21] <dpm> http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/stats/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-translation-stats.html
[19:22] <dpm> it seems that there are ~10 less teams to have reached the 80% cut-off, so I guess next week we'll have to have an extra call for translations
[19:24] <andrejz> cool, just need to nail down qt
[19:31] <dpm> yeah, I need to re-check the packages that need to be blacklisted, and if there is any missing. Oddly enough, app-install-data-ubuntu does not appear in the untranslated count of Catalan, although we haven't finished translating it
[19:31] <andrejz> dpm, i think less teams are in the range becasue the help was added
[19:32] <dpm> yes, it's quite possible
[19:32] <dpm> let me have a look what's going on with app-install-data-ubuntu...
[19:37] <andrejz> dpm i am looking at kdeqt
[19:37] <andrejz> are you sure it needs to be counted?
[19:38] <dpm> andrejz, yeah, it's on the CD and it's used by unity-2d
[19:38] <andrejz> strings look highly technical (for developers who want to develop with qt IMO)
[19:38] <dpm> ah, good point
[19:40] <andrejz> so i am not sure it makes sense to count those as the average user is probably not going to encounter those
[19:40] <andrejz> maybe there could be two stats (if not to difficult) - novice user and expert user visibility
[19:41] <dpm> andrejz, hm... looking at it, I'm not sure: it looks to me as the equivalent to the gtk package - it's essential to have all the Cancel, OK buttons and such things. On the other hand, Qt is only needed by the Unity 2D shell, the underlying part and the applications is still GTK
[19:41] <dpm> let me think about it while I investigate why app-install-data-ubuntu is not on the stats, which I think is more important
[19:42] <andrejz> i agree about app-install-data


[16:35] <h00k> so, which of the bots should we be looking for in our LoCo channel, because we currently have 4
[16:35] <h00k> we have locobot_2, lubotu1, ubuntulo12, ubuntulo1.
[16:57] <Tm_T> h00k: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[16:58] <Tm_T> 2 logbots sounds scary
[17:06] <h00k> I don't see locobot_2, ubuntulo1, ubuntulo12 listed.
[17:06] <Tm_T> ubuntulo1 is ubuntulog
[17:07] <Pici> locobot is deprecated.
[17:07] <Tm_T> and ubuntulo12 is ubuntulog2 which is just a yet another clone to share the load IIRC
[17:08] <h00k> so, I can get rid of locobot_2
[17:10] <h00k> checking in #ubuntu-bots. Thanks.
[17:11] <h00k> here, let me hit every channel :( heh. apologies to anyone in all of these (Pici, etc)
[17:11] <Pici> hit?
[17:11] <h00k> 'ask'
[17:11] <h00k> I checked in #ubuntu-locoteams, forgetting about #ubuntu-bots and #ubuntu-bots-team
[17:12] <h00k> and #ubuntu-irc.
[17:12] <Pici> What are you trying to check?
[17:12] <h00k> What ones can I remove, or how to get the extras removed (like the depreciated locobot_2)
[17:12] <h00k> and if the other 3 are required, or if ubuntulo1 was really ubuntulog, etc.
[17:13] <Pici> ubuntulo12 and ubuntulo1 are both ubuntulog
[17:14] <h00k> and both should be present, or just one?
[17:14] <Pici> lubotu1 is your ubottu clone.
[17:14] <h00k> yep, that I got
[17:14] <Pici> I don't know where there are two log bots there though.
[17:14] <Pici> er, ubuntulog bots rather.
[17:15] <h00k> me either
[17:18] <tsimpson> your only real option for locobot_2 is to either kick/ban it, or put up with it
[17:29] <h00k> Yeah, I just kicked it
[17:29] <h00k> we'll see if it comes back.
[17:30] <h00k> tsimpson, Pici, Tm_T: Thanks for the info.
[17:30] <Pici> h00k: yw
[17:30] <Tm_T> hmh, who owned those bots? jp ds?
[17:31] <tsimpson> locobot* was from ubuntu-eu, and ubuntulo* is hosted by Canonical
[17:31] <h00k> ubuntulog? it says send email to rt at the ubuntu dotcom, Canonical?
[17:32] <Tm_T> ye
[17:34] <Tm_T> h00k: https://rt.ubuntu.com/
[17:36] <h00k> oh look. Cool.
[17:40] <Tm_T> it's a task tracker for server maintenance team (or sys admins?)
[17:41] <h00k> Appears to be