[19:06] <excitatory> question.. so I'm using this really great theme that would be perfect except one flaw.. text boxes in firefox are black (which is fine) but on many websites the text in the box is also black.. what or where would i go to control this?
[19:06] <jcase> fahadsadah, i want to view a ubuntu desktop from a winxp notebook
[19:06] <whacked> no ubuntu is just not a finished product
[19:06] <Crungmungus_> jcase: get a windows based VNC client then
[19:06] <dudus> jcase: vinagre is also vnc based... you can search for a vnc program on windows and theyll work fine together. There is also a terminal server client pre installed on ubuntu, this is the default remote access for windows.... based on RDP
[19:07] <jcase> dudus thanks
[19:07] <bedmunds> nick brandonban6
[19:07] <whacked> i have nivida 177 installed but it will not activate
[19:07] <IdleOne> whacked, there is no finished GNU/Linux distrobution
[19:07] <whacked> meaning it full of so many bugs
[19:07] <bedmunds> strange, irc commands no worky.
[19:07] <Geek`N`Proud> whacked: try Debian Stable if you want "finished"
[19:07] <Geek`N`Proud> Ubuntu is not designed to be 100% bug-free
[19:08] <whacked> you spend days just do things that take seconds to accomplish in windows
[19:08] <Geek`N`Proud> whacked: like what?
[19:08] <whacked> get video driver to work
[19:08] <whacked> i want virtual desktop
[19:08] <IdleOne> whacked, then go to launchpad.net and start helping out. Ubuntu can use all the help it can get from the community. crying about it wont help ( especially when you got it for FREE )
[19:08] <Geek`N`Proud> whacked: that took me 3 minutes
[19:08] <Geek`N`Proud> there's even a GUI for it
[19:09] <Geek`N`Proud> and video drivers don't work OOTB with Windows either
[19:09] <whacked> yeah i could have worked and earned the money to buy vista xp windows server in the time it takes sitting home here trying to get free OS to work properly
[19:09] <bedmunds> whacked, video drivers suck in windows too. ESPECIALLY with a laptop/dock station
[19:10] <Geek`N`Proud> On Windows the included NVIDIA drivers don't even have OpenGL 3D support
[19:10] <whacked> so what
[19:10] <Geek`N`Proud> which IMO makes Windows and Linux equal there
[19:10] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: what problem are you having?.. my Intel and Nvidia devices work fine.. (3d, etc.)
[19:10] <whacked> big deal
[19:10] <IdleOne> whacked, state your issue and what you have treid to do to fix it or get yourself windows cd and install that. please stop complaining about it it does not help you get the problem fixed
[19:10] <ubuntu___> hi
[19:10] <whacked> at least i can visual get options to work i am sure thats everyone intent
[19:10] <ubuntu___> i need help here
[19:10] <nickrud> whacked, you can't expect your hard earned experience on windows to transfer transparently to unix/linux. There's a fresh learning curve.
[19:11] <archwild> ubuntu___, ask a question then :)
[19:11] <Geek`N`Proud> ubuntu___: how can we help you?
[19:11] <ubuntu___> im using ubuntu
[19:11] <whacked> windows is already installed and works like a charm
[19:11] <ubuntu___> and i installed aircrack-ng
[19:11] <Geek`N`Proud> whacked: did you install it or the OEM?
[19:11] <godzirra> Hrm.  Its not detecting my cdrom drive now.
[19:11] <godzirra> Maybe it is a cdrom problem.
[19:11] <IdleOne> whacked, you have anti-virus installed on the windows partition? cuz Linux doesn't need it
[19:11] <whacked> i unstalled a triple boot
[19:11]  * nickrud doesn't have a clue how to run a windows server
[19:11] <fahadsadah> ubuntu___: Wannabe hacker? Oh no!
[19:11] <ubuntu___> when i try the command airodump
[19:11] <whacked> so whats your point
[19:12] <Geek`N`Proud> whacked: if it's the one that came with your PC then i'm not surprised
[19:12] <ubuntu___> ~ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ airodump-ng wlan0
[19:12] <ubuntu___> socket(PF_PACKET) failed: Operation not permitted
[19:12] <ubuntu___> This program requires root privilegesubuntu@ubuntu:~$ airodump-ng wlan0
[19:12] <ubuntu___> socket(PF_PACKET) failed: Operation not permitted
[19:12] <FloodBot1> ubuntu___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:12] <nickrud> whacked, the point is stop complaining, and ask useful questions that will move you along in your install and learning curve
[19:12] <IdleOne> ubuntu___, sudo
[19:12] <Geek`N`Proud> whacked: if you get a PC with Ubuntu preinstalled (ask Dell, HP or any other non-cheap OEMs!) then it runs flawlessly too
[19:12] <nanotube> ubuntu___: use sudo.
[19:12] <fahadsadah> nickrud: It's a lot easier to set up than a Ubuntu server, but a Ubuntu server can be set up and forgotten about. Windows servers need constant attention.
[19:12] <ubuntu___> what do u mean by using sudo?
[19:12] <nanotube> ubuntu___: sudo airodump-ng wlan0
[19:12] <kronix> Windows Server OSes are easier to administer if, like most people, you have experience with Windows workstation OSes.
[19:12] <fahadsadah> ubuntu___: Type 'sudo -i' before entering any of the commands.
[19:13] <IdleOne> ubuntu___, append sudo to that command
[19:13] <ubuntu___> i have to do that b4 every comman?
[19:13] <nickrud> fahadsadah, that's why I made a point of saying 'run' ;)
[19:13] <kronix> Are we helping a wannabe hacker hack a wireless network?
[19:13] <IdleOne> ubuntu___, not all commands but that one yes
[19:13] <nanotube> !sudo |ubuntu___
[19:13] <ubuntu___> i will try
[19:13] <fahadsadah> ubuntu___: Put sudo before every command, or sudo -i, and then run them all normally.
[19:13] <burkmat> kronix, Not sure, just got here but that's what it looks like...
[19:13] <Geek`N`Proud> kronix: till you run dcomcnfg pagefault and realise that SCW broke it ;-)
[19:13] <Daft_Punk> why sudo -i, what is that for
[19:13] <nanotube> ubuntu___: read those sudo docs
[19:13] <fahadsadah> Daft_Punk: That makes you root.
[19:14] <nanotube> Daft_Punk: if you want to enter an interactive root shell
[19:14] <Daft_Punk> oh so perm root?
[19:14] <fahadsadah> ubuntu___: Why do you want access to the wireless network.
[19:14] <Daft_Punk> oh ok
[19:14] <nanotube> Daft_Punk: in order to do multiple commands, rather than just one
[19:14] <fahadsadah> Daft_Punk: Till you close the terminal
[19:14] <IdleOne> Daft_Punk, makes you root but can be dangerous if you don't know what your doing
[19:14] <KDB9000> how do I check my swap size from the terminal?
[19:14] <nickrud> Daft_Punk, gives you a root terminal so you don't have to use sudo for each command. type exit to return to normal user level
[19:14] <whacked> ok well it's annoying know that i have the same hardware on my PC that i did a month ago, and had nvidia 177 driver functioning properly, and today i just reinstalled same copy of ubuntu and go install the same nvidia 177 driver in the same matter as last time, but of course it will not work this time
[19:14] <ubuntu___> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo airodump-ng wlan0
[19:14] <ubuntu___> ioctl(SIOCSIWMODE) failed: Device or resource busy
[19:14] <ubuntu___> ARP linktype is set to 1 (Ethernet) - expected ARPHRD_IEEE80211,
[19:14] <ubuntu___> ARPHRD_IEEE80211_FULL or ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead.  Make
[19:14] <ubuntu___> sure RFMON is enabled: run 'airmon-ng start wlan0 <#>'
[19:14] <FloodBot1> ubuntu___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <ubuntu___> Sysfs injection support was not found either.
[19:14] <Daft_Punk> ok thanks everyone i just wanted to know what the -i was for
[19:15] <Daft_Punk> !pastebin | ubuntu___
[19:15] <nanotube> ubuntu___: use the pastebin to paste stuff that's more than one line
[19:15] <archwild> ubuntu___, it looks like your wireless card isn't in raw mode and/or your drivers don't support packet injection
[19:15] <IdleOne> ubuntu___, don't paste a bunch of text like that please use the pastebin
[19:15] <burkmat> KDB9000, try `cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i swap`
[19:15] <fahadsadah> ubuntu___: Does your card support rawrf?
[19:15] <Clinteger> hey everyone.
[19:15] <ubuntu___> wdfwhats'
[19:15] <burkmat> !hi | Clinteger
[19:15] <ubuntu___> what is rawf?
[19:16] <godzirra> Ha.
[19:16] <godzirra> My CD-Rom drive just stopped being detected by my laptop.
[19:16] <KDB9000> burkmat, thx.
[19:16] <burkmat> KDB9000, Np. :)
[19:16] <ubuntu___> my card is iwl3945
[19:16] <godzirra> Guess I know where the problem lies.
[19:16] <Clinteger> i have ubuntu running on my laptop, which stays on all the time.. so I wanted it to have it connect to my wireless network automatically on startup
[19:16] <IdleOne> godzirra, sorry to hear that but yeah now you know
[19:16] <Clinteger> oops.
[19:16] <godzirra> IdleOne: Eh.  I bought it yesterday.
[19:16] <godzirra> The laptop I mean.
[19:16] <ubuntu___> any idea?
[19:16] <godzirra> I'll go take it back once my w ife gets home... since I forgot to get the receipt from her.
[19:16] <IdleOne> godzirra, time to return to the store
[19:16] <godzirra> Yup yup.
[19:17] <jussi01> KDB9000: also try typing: free
[19:17] <godzirra> wish it had died completely before I had burned like 12 ubuntu cds. ;)
[19:17] <Clinteger> i have ubuntu running on my laptop, which stays on all the time.. so I wanted it to have it connect to my wireless network automatically on startup. I made eth1 auto in /etc/network/interfaces, so I can ssh to the machine on startup but there's no internet connectivity. What does the GUI wireless config thing do differently? :(
[19:17] <ubuntu___> hello
[19:17] <IdleOne> godzirra, don't mention you tried installing linux. some stores will try and blame it on that and not exchange or refund just say it doesn't work and that is it
[19:17] <fahadsadah> ubuntu___: Hi.
[19:17] <shifty5> i have a theory, about these cdroms, i think they are designed to be used in windows so the have trouble reading and writing linux cd images
[19:18] <shifty5> and the cdrom is not necisarrly bad, some just handle it better
[19:18] <nickrud> Clinteger, if you use /etc/network/interfaces , the gui doesn't touch the defined interfaces at all.
[19:18] <fahadsadah> shifty5: No, all media is generic.
[19:18] <shifty5> yes but the firmware on the cdrom isn't
[19:18] <burkmat> shifty5, That's quite the odd theory. :P having a hard time picturing a cd-drive analyzing the data...
[19:18] <Clinteger> nickrud, I know that. I'm trying to make /etc/network/interfaces connect automatically, without having to use the gui. I want this computer to run headless, soo :p
[19:18] <shifty5> which handles how the data is written
[19:19] <Clinteger> nickrud, it connects to my LAN fine, so this other computer i'm using right now can ssh to it immediately :S
[19:20] <nickrud> Clinteger, I set this up once, I used /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz as a guide; I also used some of the other docs in that dir
[19:20] <recon69> godzirra: did you change anything? odd that it would just stop working like that
[19:20] <shifty5> also, have you ever noticed that when you burn cd's at fast speeds some players won't read them...
[19:20] <n2diy> ok, the new box got a clean bill of health from chkrootkit, now I want to play, I've enabled Remote Desktop on both boxes, but I've forgotten the syntax to connect?
[19:20] <Clinteger> nickrud, but I'm using it with an unprotected wireless networkk.
[19:21] <NativeAngels> is there a way of getting msn to work with ubuntu
[19:21] <burkmat> Clinteger, Doesn't Network Manager handle auto-connecting per default?
[19:21] <NativeAngels> desktop
[19:21] <burkmat> NativeAngels, Check out Pidgin.
[19:21] <TheDracle> I'm using the Xfixes extension to pull information about the currently displayed cursor. When using a GNOME session in Ubuntu- it reports the width/height of the cursor being 1x1.
[19:21] <Clinteger> burkmat, it does, but only on login. i want to use this computer headlessly
[19:21] <ub2my> hey guys, trying to install mysql server, and configure asks for a root password, then tries to start mysqld and fails. (no logs in /var/log/messages) any suggestions?  I now get that configure prompt every time I apt-get install something
[19:21] <TheDracle> Does Ubuntu do some fancy idependent cursor rendering?  Thanks sooo much for your help!
[19:22] <burkmat> Clinteger, Aah... Hmm. How does nm-applet react if you simply run it at boot? It doesn't connect?
[19:22] <NativeAngels> so msn messnger wont work with ubuntu desktop
[19:22] <nickrud> Clinteger, ah. I also read man wireless , has some instructions along those lines iirc
[19:22] <zaza86> ciao
[19:22] <recon69> NativeAngels: you could try amsn
[19:22] <Clinteger> hm.
[19:22] <shifty5> nativeangles, the alternatives are better
[19:22] <shifty5> amsn is what i use
[19:22] <NativeAngels> ok
[19:22] <Clinteger> oh brb im gonna try just using dhcp as network manager was
[19:22] <burkmat> NativeAngels, The program "MSN Messenger" could be run with Wine, but Pidgin, aMSN, there are tons of choices that are like MSN Messenger but OpenSource.
[19:24] <zaza86> #vascello
[19:25] <bryguy_> I just installed ubuntu on a rather ancient laptop, a p200 with 96 megs of ram.  Once I switched from gnome to blackbox it's working pretty well, but i have one problem.
[19:25] <bryguy_> the wireless card is detected and works if I manually run dhclient
[19:26] <arooni> i have sound blaster live card.  i just installed intrepid.  sound card supports 5.1 sound but alsamixer only shows one output.  plus you can hear microphone output from speakers.... help?
[19:26] <bryguy_> but I can't find it in my network manager window and this is my first time with ubuntu so I'm not sure how to make it show up
[19:26] <hbit> Hello folks: how can I connect a pc to my laptop via crossover cable for maintenance and keep on browsing Internet wit my wifi? (different IP networks)
[19:26] <burkmat> bryguy_, It's detected but doesn't show up in the network manager?
[19:27] <bryguy_> by detected i mean it shows up when I run iwconfig
[19:27] <bryguy_> it shows up as eth1
[19:27] <burkmat> hbit, If you want to get your traffic out through a specific device you can always set the routes manually.
[19:27] <bryguy_> to do the install I had a pcmcia ethernet card installed, which was presumably eth0
[19:27] <bryguy_> when I look in the network connections window from the network manager applet, there's no card listed.
[19:27] <burkmat> bryguy_, ...huh, well I've never come across the issue that it shows up in iwconfig but not nm-applet... I'll check around, but right now I have no idea what might cause that.
[19:28] <bryguy_> in fedora I would have run system-config-network to let NM manage it
[19:28] <bryguy_> is there an equivalent ubuntu command?  or is NM it?
[19:28] <balleyne> how can I tell which repository a package came from? (cli preferred)
[19:28] <burkmat> bryguy_, nm-applet should handle it all automatically...
[19:29] <hbit> burkmat: Thanx, I've tried adding the route with route -net x.x.x.myrouters_network netmask x.x.x.x gw mynic.address  but it complaints
[19:30] <bryguy_> it's an older 802.11b card for what it's worth
[19:30] <burkmat> bryguy_, Is the interface up?
[19:30] <ub2my> hey guys, trying to install mysql server, and configure asks for a root password, then tries to start mysqld and fails. (no logs in /var/log/messages) any suggestions on how to fix?  I now get that configure prompt every time I apt-get install something
[19:30] <Pici> balleyne: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:30] <balleyne> Pici: thanks
[19:30] <burkmat> hbit, Well, i'm not sure about the proper syntax, but I always run `route add default gw <gw> netmask <netmask> <dev>` and it works. :)
[19:31] <bryguy_> I am guessing there's no config file for eth1, when I run ifup eth1 I get "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[19:31] <burkmat> ub2my, Have you tried reinstalling?
[19:31] <bryguy_> do I maybe need to make an interface config file manually?
[19:31] <ub2my> burkmat, yes, I still get the same configure prompt each time
[19:31] <burkmat> bryguy_, `ifconfig eth1 up` should work?
[19:32] <Pici> Apologies in advance for the spam.
[19:32] <lifestream> LOL OMG!!!! Does anyone know how to make my trackpad (laptop mouse pad) stop stealing focus when I'm typing? It keeps erasing everything I type
[19:32] <burkmat> ub2my, Sorry, I have no idea how you could fix that... Sounds like a really strange issue.
[19:33] <bryguy_> well it didn't give an error of any kind when I did ifconfig eth1 up
[19:33] <burkmat> bryguy_, What does nm-applet say?
[19:33] <bryguy_> still doesn't seem to see it
[19:34] <hbit> burkmat: Ok thx I'll give it a go on the syntax
[19:34] <ub2my> I can't even install the dang thing: Package mysql-server is not installed, so not removed, then it prompts me for the mysql root password, AGAIN
[19:34] <burkmat> bryguy_, hmm... try `sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart` - Might help.
[19:34] <deasy> Wohooo!!! after over a year of fighting with these bloody systems, I have a result... hplip guys
[19:34] <deasy> have pulled through :)
[19:34] <burkmat> ub2my, What happens if you just toss is a random password?
[19:35] <ub2my> burkmat, the dialog goes away, it says stopping mysql, [ok], starting mysql [fail] then the apt-get errors out
[19:35] <jdnwest> Anyone have a wiki platform that they would recomend for a small office?
[19:36] <SpikeDrak> hello, im updating from ubuntu server 6 to 8.04 and i keep getting this error, (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing xfonts-scalable (--remove):, anyone have any suggestions how to fix it?
[19:36] <DIFH-iceroot> jdnwest: the standard-wiki "mediawiki"
[19:36] <epictetus> mediawiki is good but picky about its platform and a pain to setup
[19:36] <IdleOne> !synaptics
[19:36] <bryguy_> didn't make a difference- I also tried restarting NetworkManager to no avail
[19:36] <burkmat> ub2my, Huh...  Looks like it's dkpg's fault, but still... Wonder how to get rid of it. :/ Let me poke around a bit.
[19:38] <burkmat> bryguy_, Well, if you've enabled Wireless in nm-applet I don't really have any clue what else could help... Quite the odd issue you've got there.
[19:38] <burkmat> bryguy_, Anyways, good luck. Once you get it resolved I'd love to hear how. :)
[19:38] <SpikeDrak> anyone, ive beating my head against this xfonts problem for hours :(
[19:39] <jdnwest> DIFH-iceroot: mediawiki is great for me, but i need somthing that requires no training (What you see is what you get)
[19:39] <burkmat> ub2my, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=736419   ! Check that out!
[19:39] <bryguy_> does ubuntu have something like sysconfig where the interfaces are configured?
[19:39] <nickrud> ub2my, in /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst , place the command   exit 0   on the line following   set -e  ;  run    sudo apt-get -f install  &&  sudo apt-get purge mysql-server-5.0 && sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[19:40] <deasy> thanks Orgazmo , fosco__  ;)
[19:40] <bryguy_> all I see is /etc/network/interfaces, which lists eth0 as the primary connection; the only network interface I have right now is eth1 (wireless card)
[19:41] <bryguy_> I'm thinking maybe there's a disconnect where it's expecting eth0 and ignoring eth1 when it doesn't find eth0 (which was a pcmcia card I've since removed)
[19:41] <nickrud> bryguy_, normally wireless in the desktop is done by NetworkManger and the nm-applet in the notification area; if it's defined in /etc/network/interfaces NetworkManager will not handle that interface at all
[19:42] <ub2my> nickrud, which line is that?
[19:42] <damentz> i don't think there is a way to easily configure your nic card automagically from CLI unless it has been done with network manager previously
[19:42] <ub2my> nickrud, there are several set -e lines
[19:43] <nickrud> ub2my, more than 1? ?  after the first. The rest won't be seen
[19:43] <ub2my> burkmat, using that link I tried force/purge and get: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-server which isn't installed.
[19:43] <c0mp13371331337> Minor issue:  Ever since upgrading to Intrepid, Compiz seems to have over-hijacked my middle mouse button.  I've always used the middle mouse button for cube rotation.  However, in previous versions, this has ONLY worked when clicking on the desktop.  It seems that now Compiz hijacks the middle mouse click even in applications.  So I can no longer open links in new tabs in firefox without right-clicking, then selecting Open In New Ta
[19:43] <nickrud> ub2my, should end up being line 2 or 3 or so, very high in the file
[19:43] <burkmat> ub2my, Try nicks advice, he seems to know what's oig
[19:44] <burkmat> ub2my, *going on ^^
[19:44] <ub2my> nickrud, first set -e is line 62
[19:44] <nickrud> ub2my, don't have mysql installed in this vm (at work) if you put the file on a pastebin I'll look.   /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst
[19:45] <bryguy_> how does ubuntu decide which interface is eth0, eth1, etc?
[19:45] <ub2my> nickrud, that file is 301 lines long, 12KB
[19:45] <navetz> is anyone else running into an issue with pidgin where you cant recieve files from people using the new msn client?
[19:45] <nickrud> ub2my, paste.ubuntu.com , copy it there and give me the link
[19:45] <Deeppact> Hello, I have a question corncerning installing Ubuntu Hardy 8.04. When i put the install cd into my laptop it will start but once i click one of the 4 options like install ubuntu it will load Linux Kernel but it will get stuck allong the way and my computer just freezes. My laptop is a dual boot but i want to make it a laptop with only ubuntu on it so can anyone maybe helpe me I would apriciate it
[19:46] <nickrud> Deeppact, did you run the checkdisk option on the boot menu?
[19:46] <nickrud> Deeppact, if you can't even get that to run, most likely it's a bad burn or downloaded iso
[19:47] <ub2my> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120706/
[19:47] <AJC_Z0> How do I stop Update manager from stealing focus?
[19:47] <bryguy_> so if NetworkManager isn't doing it, how is my wireless card finding a link to my ssid in the first place?
[19:47] <jeancalvin> what's a good viewer for multi-page Tif files?
[19:48] <Deeppact> Nickrud, I just tried check disk but it got stuck at same problem loading the Linux Kernel but I will try to burn it again will of work if I burn the iso on a DVD?
[19:48] <jeancalvin> the built in image viewer on ubuntu doesn't know how to go past the first page.
[19:48] <jeancalvin> and I've just been using Gimp to view my tif files.
[19:48] <jeancalvin> any suggestions?
[19:48] <ub2my> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/120706/
[19:48] <pinkpotato> Is gnome-terminal scriptable?
[19:48] <nickrud> ub2my, ah, it's set on line 1; not obvious. Put the exit 0 on line 2. What that does is simply skip all the rest of the file. That's why were're running the rest of the commands; to complete the bad install, purge it and try again.    sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get purge mysql-server-5.0 && sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[19:49] <ldlework> Hey where are the wireless logs?
[19:49] <nickrud> !md5 | Deeppact (check the checksum first) , not sure about booting the iso from a dvd. Never tried persoanally
[19:49] <ldlework> I can't find them anywhere
[19:49] <trae> anyone know how to get an Ubuntu box to join a Windows Domain?
[19:50] <Sakamura> trae: ?
[19:50] <Sakamura> trae: your trying to get Linux on AD?
[19:51] <ldlework> Does anyone know where I can find logs about wireless access activity?
[19:51] <trae> Sakamura, yah
[19:51] <nickrud> ldlework, activity?  /var/log/syslog will show the interface going up/down
[19:51] <Sakamura> trae: have you seen this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[19:51] <ub2my> nickrud, I could remove, but install failed, again. http://paste.ubuntu.com/120708/
[19:52] <trae> Sakamura, hmm  I guess it's not easy huh?  LIke... if we had to roll out say 400 of these machines, doesn't sound quick.
[19:52] <daxroc> Evening
[19:52] <Sakamura> trae: then you would script it :)
[19:52] <nickrud> ub2my, ok, look in /var/log/syslog for mysql errors. Did you have a database already existing?
[19:53] <ub2my> nickrud, nope, clean install
[19:53] <trae> Sakamura, lol I should know what I'm doing huh?
[19:53] <trae> Sakamura, ;)
[19:53] <daxroc> Anyone know why audio stops working after a few hours of use in 8.10 ?
[19:53] <Swian> ok, having problems getting a usb hub to work, I can see it in lsusb, but nothing plugged in mounts
[19:53] <Swian> any ideas?
[19:53] <B10S> is it best to purge and remove awstats 6.7 before installing awstats 6.9?
[19:53] <helper> helo
[19:53] <helper> i got a small problem
[19:54] <daxroc> Swian: bad hub (Does it work on another computer) , Under powered for the number of devices connected
[19:54] <Sakamura> trae: at the bottom of the page theres some steps on adding more than one machine
[19:54] <Jfdzar> hello I have a Belkin F5D7000 wirless card can anybody help me to make it work?
[19:54] <helper> i config. squid and do everything ok with my client but port msn 1863 or any other port i add like 6667 won't work with my client any help with that !
[19:54] <Swian> it does work on other computers
[19:54] <ub2my> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu.com/120709/
[19:54] <Swian> and no devices are plugged in now
[19:54] <Swian> I have 2 different hubs
[19:54] <Swian> work fine in windows
[19:55] <daxroc> Swian: your not daisy chaining ?
[19:55] <Swian> no
[19:55] <Jfdzar> hello I have a Belkin F5D7000 wirless card can anybody help me to make it work?
[19:55] <Swian> directly connected to a sub port on back of pc
[19:56] <helper> i config. squid and do everything ok with my client but port msn 1863 or any other port i add like 6667 won't work with my client any help with that !
[19:56] <daxroc> Swian can you bin the results of lsusb -vv > ~/Desktop/usb.txt
[19:56] <C-S-B> hey guys.
[19:57] <B10S> Swain: anything in /media/
[19:57] <Swian> lemme check
[19:57] <B10S> Swian: anything in /media/
[19:57] <Jfdzar> Hi
[19:57] <Swian> yeah
[19:57] <daxroc> What filesystem are you mounting
[19:57] <zdennis> do all version of ubuntu come with kernels that have extended attributes turned on ?
[19:58] <C-S-B> Is it wrong that I'm sat here in an Ubuntu t-shirt? lol
[19:58] <nickrud> ub2my, looking over the script, still around
[19:58] <IdleOne> C-S-B, lmao so am i haha
[19:58] <trae> Sakamura, hey... according to that help page, I don't have kinit installed
[19:58] <Mr_Mackee> how do i zoom out after pressing windows key + 3?
[19:58] <trae> any idea what's going on there?
[19:58] <daxroc> zdennis: they come with the ubuntu generic kernel , nearly all bells and whistles are on by default ( common ones atleast )
[19:59] <zdennis> daxroc: thanks
[19:59] <Jfdzar> somebody help me :D?
[19:59] <IdleOne> C-S-B, I also have an ubuntu tatto on my arm. so I got you beat :P
[19:59] <Mr_Mackee> ah windows key + 1 ty
[19:59] <ifroog> Question, How to edit qt/kde themes from gnome?
[19:59] <l337ingDisorder> Is there a way to remove my passphrase from my .ssh/id_rsa key?
[19:59] <imri303> Mr_Mackee windos key tisk tisk its a super key :)
[19:59] <l337ingDisorder> Or would I need to generate a new key?
[20:00] <Mr_Mackee> lol
[20:00] <Mr_Mackee> oh yeah super key sorry
[20:00] <kiwi_> Hello world
[20:00] <C-S-B> Is it wrong that I'm sat here in an Ubuntu t-shirt? l'd go that far IdleOne
[20:00] <l337ingDisorder> imri303: I prefer to think of it as the wavy diamond key
[20:00] <daxroc> regenerate
[20:00] <C-S-B> oops
[20:00] <C-S-B> auto completed
[20:00] <nickrud> ub2my, are you sure there's no error prior to that?
[20:00] <imri303> l337ingDisorder lol :)
[20:00] <l337ingDisorder> imri303: I just can't bring myself to call a key with the windows logo "super"
[20:00] <helper> i config. squid and do everything ok with my client but port msn 1863 or any other port i add like 6667 won't work with my client any help with that !
[20:01] <nickrud> l337ingDisorder, they have replacement keycaps you can buy ...
[20:01] <imri303> Its called whiteout
[20:01] <C-S-B> what I meant to say was, I wouldnt go as far as a tatoo. I've got badges for my backpack when I go travelling round SE Asia next week though
[20:01] <Jfdzar> Belkin F5D7000 how can I make it run in my Ubuntu 8.10¿?¿?¿??¿
[20:02] <daxroc> ubuntu + pulse-audio interpretation sucks sooo bad it's not funny !
[20:02] <C-S-B> Love spreading the word
[20:02] <C-S-B> Sad as I may sound
[20:02] <helper> anyone know squid here?
[20:02] <C-S-B> What part of squid, run it at work
[20:02] <ifroog> Question, How to edit qt/kde themes from gnome?
[20:02] <daxroc> helper: ask in #squid
[20:02] <l337ingDisorder> nickrud: I wonder if any of them have the superman logo... ;)
[20:02] <Jfdzar> Question, How can I make Belkin F5D7000 Wireless card make it run in my Ubuntu 8.10?
[20:03] <nickrud> I've seen tux ones
[20:03] <l337ingDisorder> nice
[20:03] <daxroc> Jfdzar: first find out what chipset it has and if it's supported under linux
[20:03] <Jfdzar> it has a broadcom chipsep
[20:03] <B10S> Swian: sorry i dont know, just tried my hub and it mounted fine
[20:03] <Jfdzar> I have tried to install it with nwdiswrapper
[20:03] <C-S-B> Anyone doing music production in ubuntu, used to logic/reason under win, but would like to migrate that side, it's the reason I need windows :/
[20:04] <xSlack>  Whats a good linux mp3 renaming programing that will rename a set of mp3's to their ID3 tag titles
[20:04] <Jfdzar> But I can´t make it work If someone con guide me with the error messeges I have it would be great
[20:04] <B10S> is it best to purge and remove awstats 6.7 before installing awstats 6.9?
[20:04] <Swian> thanks
[20:04] <ub2my> nickrud, just did another clean install, full message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/120711/
[20:04] <C-S-B> I've just loaded the b43 driver for my broadcom 4311, works great (for aircrack as well) though you get the sta driver with 8.10 by default, do neither of them work? What's the exact chipset
[20:05] <Jfdzar> daxroc: I have tried to install it with nwdiswrapper But I can´t make it work If someone con guide me with the error messeges I have it would be great
[20:05] <nickrud> ub2my, work calls, one moment
[20:05] <C-S-B> Jfdzar, whats the chipset?
[20:05] <Jfdzar> Broadcom
[20:06] <daxroc> Jfdzar: ndiswrapper is a last resort , me personally I would not bother using it
[20:06] <C-S-B> have you tried b43cutter?
[20:06] <Jfdzar> daxroc: a last resort? what can i try?
[20:06] <Pici> B10S: Remove? You don't normally need to remove packages when you update them.  Look on the awstats website at their changelog if you think that there may be a compatibility change between versions that may impact stats if you want.
[20:06] <C-S-B> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[20:07] <Vansolrick> lspci
[20:07] <Pici> !who
[20:07] <Vansolrick> lspci | broadcom will tell you the exact details
[20:07] <daxroc> jfdzar google your chipset to see if there is a linux driver available
[20:07] <B10S> Pici: thanks
[20:07] <digitalhighway> hello
[20:08] <tjg92> hay
[20:08] <daxroc> C-S-B: mentioned something about broadcom chipset a few lines ago ? not sure if it was ment for you
[20:08] <Jfdzar> daxroc: and then what how can I put the driver in my linux?
[20:08] <digitalhighway> is anyone running ubuntu 8.04
[20:08] <Vansolrick> I am
[20:08] <digitalhighway> and google earth?
[20:08] <C-S-B> Sorry, it was. I should have directed it
[20:08] <daxroc> Jfdzar: install it
[20:08] <Vansolrick> don't have it installed
[20:09] <Jfdzar> daxroc: how??? :S
[20:09] <monkey2> is an upgrade to 8.10 recommended? I've read that 8.10 is infact much slower than 8.04, can anyone confirm or disprove this?
[20:09] <daxroc> Jfdzar: can you bin the output of lspci please
[20:09] <lifestream> I messed something up. My mouse doesn't work now... O_________O
[20:09] <wallunit> The fonts of kde apps are much to large. How can i change that?
[20:09] <jdmnynja> can anyone tell me why my system occasionally freezes?
[20:09] <Deeppact> Nickrud, Thanks allot i burned another copy of ubuntu and now it works ur the man. See ya
[20:09] <digitalhighway> How do you add a printer within Ubuntu 8.04?
[20:09] <Jfdzar> daxroc: give me one minute
[20:09] <bryguy_> I checked dmesg and udev is renaming my wireless card from eth0 to eth1, this might explain part of my problem where network manager isn't seeing my wireless card
[20:10] <tuxflavrdwafls> does anyone know why my crystal eye webcam WORKS with V4l2 but not with V4l, but if I am not mistaken cheese also uses V4l2 as does XSANE and luvcview. but the latter programs either fail to load video, or crash my whole system.  how can i get the cam to work in cheese?
[20:10] <C-S-B> monkey2, I moved to 8.10 from 8.04, I prefer it tbh, the only downside is that its not lts
[20:10] <Vansolrick> I actually have not tried 8.10 myself but I usually like using LTS releases like 8.04 because they tend to be more stable
[20:10] <monkey2> C-S-B: did you upgrade or do a fresh install?
[20:10] <wallunit> digitalhighway: go to <IP_ADDRESS>:631 in your web browser
[20:11] <Vansolrick> digitalhighway, what kind of printer is it?
[20:11] <digitalhighway> lexmark
[20:11] <tuxflavrdwafls> i forgot to say the program that works is ekiga
[20:11] <nickrud> ub2my, is your loopback interface down for some reason?   ifconfig   in a terminal should have a stanza regarding lo
[20:11] <Vansolrick> ooo you got me on that one. I never had luck with lexmark
[20:11] <digitalhighway> Van: i own a lexmark printer
[20:12] <digitalhighway> lol
[20:12] <PopeZaph> Can anyone point me to a simple guide to help me figure out why my Dell Inspirion 600m with Radeon Mobility 9000 chipset won't do 1400x1050?
[20:12] <digitalhighway> I gotta learn something new lol
[20:12] <lifestream> Does anyone know how I can troubleshoot the fact my mouse doesnt work?
[20:12]  * PopeZaph may be fooling himself in thinking it can do that rez
[20:12] <B10S> Swian, http://tinyurl.com/cohyca (i dont know what version you have)
[20:13] <Vansolrick> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/printing/C/index.html
[20:13] <Vansolrick> thats the general help page for printing and fax
[20:13] <mytest2323423> hi
[20:13] <ub2my> nickrud: nope, I can ping localhost too
[20:13] <godzirra> IdleOne: Yeah, I know.  Stores will always try to argue about something.
[20:13] <krazed> asdg
[20:13] <ub2my> nickrud, this is a vps (virtual private server) though, not sure if that matters
[20:13] <n2diy> I'm having trouble with vncviewer, anybody familiar with getting it going?
[20:14] <nickrud> ub2my, ok, try    sudo apt-get reinstall libmysql* , then run the server install again. And I'm not sure; wouldn't think a vps should make a difference.
[20:14] <lifestream> Whoa what the...?! Last night I was running transmission, and had a ratio of 11. Today  get up and turn on my laptop and I'ts 0.39 what giives xD
[20:14] <Vansolrick> Digital, here is a link to a post on the ubuntu forums for the linux lexmark driver kit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=605607
[20:15] <kronix> Ratio goblins, lifestream.
[20:15] <DangerTheDuck> zdravo folks
[20:15] <godzirra> Damnit.  I need a paperclip to get out the linux cd in the drive. ;)
[20:16] <godzirra> hrm
[20:16] <godzirra> now it detects the cdrom drive again
[20:17] <GNUtoo_> hello the p option in tar xvpf doesn't seem to have any effect in a chrooted ubuntu 8.10(the lastest one) is it normal
[20:17] <tuxflavrdwafls> what is a good video capture program that supports V4l2 ?
[20:17] <Otacon22> what can i do if a process doesn't want to close also with kill -s 9 <PID> ?
[20:17] <arooni> i have ubuntu intreipd and a creative web cam instant.  it USED to work on hardy.  but now when i run skype... the only thing my party sees is green scrambled video.
[20:18] <wallunit> how can i make the fonts of kde apps smaller in intrepid?
[20:18] <Jfdzar__> daxroc: Iḿ Jfdzar
[20:19] <Cpudan80> wallunit: stick around here - but ask #kubuntu
[20:19] <Jfdzar__> daxroc: check out my lspci
[20:19] <Jfdzar__> daxroc: 00:0d.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[20:20] <Vansolrick> you should be able to sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[20:20] <Vansolrick> if you have not alread
[20:20] <Vansolrick> y
[20:20] <tuxflavrdwafls> what is a good video capture program that supports V4l2 ?
[20:20] <wallunit> Cpudan80: well, i think people who using kubuntu can just run systemsettings. But i am only using a few kde apps and when i run systemsettings the font section is missing.
[20:20] <Jfdzar__> iḿ trying
[20:20] <korney> anyone know where the default java_home is set? ant keeps looking at the wrong version  (the java_home environment variable is not set)
[20:20] <Vansolrick> and just select yes when it asks if you would like to extract the firmware now
[20:20] <ub2my> nickrud, re-installed, didn't work
[20:21] <Jfdzar__> it's installed in its recent version
[20:21] <rakudave> tuxflavrdwafls: try "cheese"
[20:21] <Vansolrick> hmm did you check the network manager applet at the top right to see if its picking up any signals/networks?
[20:22] <Jfdzar__> it doesn't recognize the card
[20:22] <legendary> is anyone using onTV?? i'm new to ubuntu and do not know how to install it =(
[20:22] <Jfdzar__> w8!
[20:22] <Jfdzar__> itś working
[20:22] <tuxflavrdwafls> rakudave cheese crashes the whole system when it loads
[20:22] <BattleStarJesus> what is the channel for ubuntu studio
[20:23] <bryguy_> there was a persistent rule in udev conf that was renaming my wireless card as eth1 when it was first detected as eth0
[20:23] <nickrud> ub2my, then I'm not sure what's going on. Try verifying that /etc/mysql doesn't exist after the purge, as well as /var/lib/mysql I guess.
[20:23] <mcknin> Hi - is there a way to force newly created files to inherit its parent directory's permissions?
[20:23] <Jfdzar__> yeaaaah
[20:23] <Vansolrick> good :)
[20:23] <Jfdzar__> Vansolrick: Thankyou very much
[20:24] <rakudave> tuxflavrdwafls: "camorama" then...
[20:24] <Ethos> hi guys, i'm looking for a solution to backup files withint changing any permissions
[20:24] <Ethos> I'd like to copy a whole folder (/var/www/html) to a windows share everynight
[20:24] <Ethos> any ideas?
[20:24] <genii> Ethos: Thats what the -a switch of cp is for
[20:24] <Vansolrick> Jfdzar_, You're welcome
[20:24] <starbuck11> my home partition is 274Gbyte, with only 260 available... but there are just 192Mbyte used space... what could be wrong there???
[20:24] <korney> where is the default path set in ubuntu?
[20:25] <Ethos> -a, thanks
[20:25] <jero> How do I get 3g-internet in ubuntu with a iCON 225 adapter?
[20:25] <genii> Ethos: Although since a Windows share, permissions changing/preserving of any kind is sort of useless anyhow
[20:25] <nickrud> korney, /etc/environment
[20:25] <korney> nickrud, ty
[20:25] <Ethos> genii: can you explain some more?
[20:25] <Ethos> it's my first ubuntu server and I need it to backup our intranet running it it nightly :)
[20:26] <genii> Ethos: The windows filesystems like fat,vfat,ntfs don't have same permisssions system as linux filestsyems
[20:26] <Ethos> ah ok
[20:26] <Ethos> Yeah, I knew that- not quite sure how I assume it'd keep the permissions :)
[20:26] <BattleStarJesus> Have any of you ability to explain how I may convince Rosegarden to work properly in Ubuntu Studio 8.10?
[20:26] <nickrud> Ethos, you'd want to create an archive first, then copy the archive over (tar is useful for that)
[20:26] <Ethos> would that be realistic to do nightly?
[20:27] <genii> Ethos: You could tar up with permissions preserved, untar back after for restoring
[20:27] <thiebaude1> BattleStarJesus: does it work in ubuntu 8.10?
[20:27] <nickrud> Ethos, very. tar does stand for Tape ARchive ;)
[20:27] <Ethos> lol
[20:27] <Ethos> ;0
[20:27] <Ethos> Making myself sound thicker by the minute
[20:27] <_VIM_> what's a good GUI SVN app that's free/easy to use for noobs?
[20:27] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: yes
[20:27] <korney> nickrud, i made a change to that file adding a path.  is there something i need to do to get it load in new xterms? it's not working
[20:27] <DIFH-iceroot> _VIM_: qsvn
[20:28] <constantine_> hi I keep getting a red exclamation and this:not all updates completed successfully
[20:28] <Ethos> so I could tar it up, then cp it over to windows?
[20:28] <DIFH-iceroot> _VIM_: but you have to buuild from source
[20:28] <Ethos> how would I schedule this with no gui
[20:28] <lifestream> PLEASE someone tell me how to turn my laptop fan. it's *overheating* !
[20:28] <_VIM_> DIFH-iceroot: ok ty :)
[20:28] <thiebaude1> BattleStarJesus: did you install studio over ubuntu 8.10?
[20:28] <nickrud> _VIM_, there're several I use(d), rapidsvn, svn-workbench, and one I can't remember
[20:28] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: I have it installed on 2 machines, in one I cant figure out how to rout it through jack and the other it is looking for realtime access to the kernel
[20:28] <thiebaude1> BattleStarJesus: i wish i knew the answer,
[20:28] <nickrud>  _VIM_ ah, subcommander .
[20:29] <nickrud> korney, not off the top of my head.
[20:29] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: I have a fresh install of Ubuntu studio 8.10 and it is complaining about real time access.
[20:29] <_VIM_> nickrud: thanks
[20:30] <BattleStarJesus> Anyone else know how to convince Rosegarden to work on Ubuntu Studio 8.10
[20:30] <Ethos> nickrud: / genii any articles you guys know of so I can learn what I need? :)
[20:30] <ubuntu_> anyone knows if GNU tar is broken?
[20:30] <thiebaude1> BattleStarJesus: what is rosegarden, anyway?
[20:30] <Mr_Mackee> anybody know why ctrl + T in firefox doesnt open a new tab?
[20:30] <_VIM_> there was one gui svn toy i had where i could drag a file/folder into the GUI and it would add it to the project, but I can't for the likes of me remember the name of the app now :/
[20:31] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
[20:31] <thiebaude1> ok
[20:31] <constantine_> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[20:31] <genii> Ethos: Sorry for lag, got distracted elsewhere. Yes, idea would be to tar it up then cp the tarfile over to windows box... reverse process to restore stuff
[20:31] <Ethos> ah ok, sounds easy enough
[20:32] <Ethos> I'm fairly new to linux, so I guess I can do this fairly easily from the terminal
[20:32] <Ethos> what do I need to look into for "scheduling" it nightly?
[20:32] <yoshx> hello
[20:32] <constantine_> bueller?
[20:32] <adaptr> Ethos: unison
[20:32] <farnsworth_> .chillnet.org
[20:32] <Ethos> adaptr: thanks, i'll take a look
[20:33] <Ethos> :)
[20:33] <Ethos> oooh, it sounds good ;)
[20:33] <lifestream> anyoone know how to force laptop fan to go on
[20:33] <adaptr> Ethos: I don't know how it behaves between Linux and Windows, but it runs on both
[20:33] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: I was stoked about installing Ubuntu Studio thinking it would be part of the package, but it is not.  I hade to install it seperate and it dosen't work.  What a load.  Big dissapointment, but not as big of a dissapointment when I found out that Ubuntu Studio also does not install network manager.
[20:33] <Ethos> yeah, i'll look into it
[20:34] <thiebaude1> BattleStarJesus: i had studio a few days ago then i went back to ubuntu 8.10
[20:34] <bryguy_> my laptop can't use gdm because it's too slow, how do I manually choose to use say blackbox instead of gnome?
[20:34] <hummesse> i want to pipe the output of "rhythmbox -d" to a file. how do i do that?
[20:35] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: My critique, Ubuntu Studio is no more than a glossy magazine full of fluff.  There is no hearty substance to it.
[20:35] <mikewu> hummesse: rhythmbox -d > ~/debug
[20:35] <hummesse> hehe simple... thanks
[20:35] <easytarget> bryguy_: make an .xinitrc with blackbox
[20:35] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: Studio community is weak.
[20:36] <thiebaude1> BattleStarJesus: is rosegarden available in ubuntu 8.10?
[20:36] <monkey2> resierfs vs ext3? Which do you think is better and why?
[20:36] <Pici> BattleStarJesus: All the packages available in Ubuntu Studio are in the Ubuntu repositories and installable in Ubuntu.
[20:36] <Pici> !best | monkey2
[20:36] <easytarget> bryguy_: in your $HOME
[20:36] <BattleStarJesus> Yeah on my other machine it works just fine except I cant seem to get jack to work right
[20:37] <imri303> monkey2 ext3 cause reiser was a nut job :)
[20:37] <rakudave> imri303: +1
[20:37] <olethri0s> Hi guys. I'm experiencing difficulty. I have a bcm4318 air force wireless nic in a laptop with no ethernet connection, and I need the firmware for a Xubuntu. I found the necessary firmware and got it to the laptop via a dvd, but I'm still getting the scios file not found error or whatever it is.
[20:37] <monkey2> Pici: sorry about that.
[20:38] <BattleStarJesus> Pici: What is the point of Ubuntu Studio if it is so lame?
[20:38] <olethri0s> Anyone have any ideas?
[20:38] <Pici> BattleStarJesus: It includes those packages by default.
[20:38] <BattleStarJesus> thiebaude1: Yes.
[20:39] <easytarget> olethrios: looked at ndis?
[20:39] <olethri0s> No windows :/
[20:39] <BattleStarJesus> Pici: do you have any insight into who maintains it?
[20:39] <easytarget> ndiswrapper is a wrapper for windows drivers under linux.
[20:40] <olethri0s> Wait, I can get the windows driver for it without windows, can't I?
[20:40] <Bodsda> olethri0s, yes
[20:40] <easytarget> if you have a windows driver, maybe it can be run with ndiwrapper under linux
[20:40] <olethri0s> alright sweet. I'll try that in a couple of minutes.  I haven't looked for native drivers from Broadcom either because I figured they wouldn't have them. So I'll look for those first and then do ndiswrapper.
[20:42] <bryguy_> burkmat: I solved the problem of the missing wireless card, udev had a rule that automatically renamed the device from eth0 to eth1, but network manager was still looking for eth0.  Once I changed the rule to look for eth0 everything worked perfectly.
[20:42] <burkmat> bryguy_, Nice job. Had no idea nm-app stopped looking, good to know. ;)
[20:43] <lifestream> Please can someone tell me  how to force my laptop fan on?
[20:43] <bryguy_> hope it helps someone else
[20:43] <thiebaude1> bbl
[20:43] <ifroog> Question, How to edit qt/kde themes from gnome?
[20:44] <ub2my> great, now I get another error:  * /etc/init.d/mysql: WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz (I have no /etc/mysql/my.cnf anymore.  Apt-get purge and install doesn't fix it.  help)
[20:44] <C-S-B> Do you hav
[20:45] <C-S-B> a copy of the conf?
[20:45] <ub2my> should mysql-server contain the default config file?  I've also got mysql-common installed
[20:45] <ub2my> nope
[20:45] <ub2my> this is clean install, no databases or anything
[20:45] <olethri0s> Also, I don't know anything about ndiswrapper, but if I download the deb(s) that I'll need on a desktop and then transfer it via a dvd, will that hurt anything or compromise functionality?
[20:46] <nickrud> ub2my, reinstall the -common to get my.conf
[20:46] <C-S-B> olethri0s, shouldnt do,
[20:46] <nickrud> ub2my, crap. I'm half at work and half here, you should stop listening to me ;)
[20:46] <ub2my> nickrud, I tried, doesn't get replaced.  I'm doing apt-get install --reinstall mysql-common
[20:46] <olethri0s> Sweet. I'll perhaps look into it a little more before I actually do it.
[20:46] <easytarget> olethrios: should function correctly.. have done it myself
[20:47] <C-S-B> isn't it just all the files bundled into a package?
[20:47] <whacked> hey why does the ubuntu desktop theme show a human with a empty head  ?
[20:47] <ArcSighter> Hello, i have installed ubuntu8.04.2 on a pendrive, and sometimes I'm faced with an old machine at work, that doens't have usb boot in bios, so its possible to create a diskette, which boot the machine, recognize the usb drive, and then boot the drive?
[20:47] <C-S-B> with an install script, not disimilar to a MSI
[20:48] <easytarget> oletrhi0s: there was an article on the linux journal about 1,5-2 year back on ndiswrapper
[20:48] <ArcSighter> anyone?
[20:49] <ub2my> something is wrong, dpkg -L mysql-common shows it has my.cnf
[20:49] <ub2my> but the filesystem doesn't show it
[20:49] <C-S-B> ArcSighter, I don't know enough about it all, could you not get grub to boot off a floppy and load from there?
[20:49] <MamboKurt> how to find out if shared memory is enabled?
[20:49] <hojo52> anyone have a IPCOP setup with wireless?
[20:49] <ArcSighter> C-S-B: I'm in a linux box, so I can get a grub disk easily
[20:50] <ArcSighter> but that will detect/boot usb
[20:50] <ArcSighter> and how?
[20:50] <ifroog> Which package has kcontrol?
[20:50] <Bodsda> !info kcontrol
[20:50] <easytarget> MamboKurt: df
[20:51] <easytarget> MamboKurt: should give /dev/shm
[20:51] <C-S-B> ArcSighter, I'm not sure on the whole thing, I'm sure I read somewhere that you could hack an SD card boot from grub, maybe do a similar thing with usb
[20:51] <C-S-B> its all to do with the bios though
[20:51] <C-S-B> in theory, could you not update the bios?
[20:51] <MamboKurt> easytarget: doesnt show up. how do i enable it?
[20:51] <adaptr> ifroog: dpkg -S kcontrol
[20:51] <hicham> CSB: yes
[20:51] <prince_jammys> ifroog: 'kcontrol'
[20:51] <whacked> ok now when i open synaptic package manager i receive this following message E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:51] <whacked> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[20:51] <hicham> CSB : you can update the bios
[20:52] <RatPackSopra-> Hello Guys, I've been digging around, but can't seem to figure out how to change the preferences away from Rhythm Box to VLC. I'm assuming that I will have to enter a command line to set it. I have the "preferred app" open, but I'm not sure what command line to run. Is anyone familiar and able to help?
[20:52] <easytarget> MamboKurt: must be enabled in kernel and an entry in /etc/fstab
[20:52] <adaptr> RatPackSopra-: preferences for WHAT ?
[20:52] <C-S-B> RatPackSopra-, you can change it under default programs
[20:53] <easytarget> MamboKurt: something along the lines of "tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0"
[20:53] <MamboKurt> easytarget: how do i find out if its enabled in the kernel? and which entry i have to add to fstab to get in running if its enabled?
[20:53] <ub2my> is there a way to have apt-get show the files it's touching during an install?  I tried -V
[20:53] <adaptr> RatPackSopra-: right-click file of desired type, select properties, switch to open with tab, select program, close properties.
[20:53] <n8tuserf> MamboKurt -> what exactly are you looking for?
[20:53] <Coded1> any one have experience with the ati 9200 series s-video ?
[20:54] <RatPackSopra-> C-S-B, ah, so I didn;t need to go thru Preferred applications then?
[20:54] <Coded1> I can't seem to find how to activate my tv
[20:54] <C-S-B> Anyone here managed to get hdmi audio on the Vaio AR range?
[20:54] <freeflowcauvery> Hello. Quick question - I currently have Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. I would like to update to 8.10. I've tried sudo apt-get install update-core-manager but I get a list of "failed to fetch" errors - obviously due to end of support. is there anyway i can upgrade from bash, or do i have to go to System>Administration>Software Sources
[20:54] <MamboKurt> n8tuserf: new ati drivers out. hp says shared memory must be enabled. dont know if i just didnt see it befor or if its new.
[20:55] <C-S-B> RatPackSopra-, theres a couple of places to change it, easiest is probably what was said above and changing it in properties on your right click
[20:55] <n8tuserf> MamboKurt -> have you used ipcs command?
[20:55] <easytarget> MamboKurt: kernel depends.. I use "make menuconfig" in the kernel source to look from terminal prompt. Ther are other configuration programs for xwindows though
[20:55] <RatPackSopra-> C-S-B, what a V-8 Moment ...LOL
[20:55] <RatPackSopra-> BLUSH
[20:55] <ArcSighter> ok, how I install grub to a diskette to boot from a usb drive?
[20:56] <RatPackSopra-> embarrassed to admit it was so simple ...I forget how simple things usually are in Ubuntu
[20:56] <MamboKurt> n8tuserf: what does ipcs?
[20:56] <n8tuserf> easytarget -> umm /dev/shm is not for  shared memory, its for temporary file system mount point
[20:56] <n8tuserf> MamboKurt -> kindly   man ipcs
[20:56] <C-S-B> ArcSighter, have you tried updating the bios to boot usb?
[20:57] <easytarget> MamboKurt: n8tuserf is right.. sorry.  I've not done what I guessed might be done so i don't wish to confuse.
[20:57] <ArcSighter> C-S-B: I want to run it from diskette
[20:57] <freeflowcauvery> Anyone? Can't seem to upgrade feisty fawn from bash sudo apt-get install update-core-manager. Any way of doing this?
[20:57] <MamboKurt> n8tuserf: ok. every single line says "destroyed". seems to not that good. /dev/shm does exist
[20:57] <C-S-B> ArcSighter, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[20:58] <person> Hi folks
[20:58] <easytarget> MamboKurt: but is still needs to be enabled in kernel
[20:58] <plazia> ooo-er... anyone had a problem with playing music in amarok and then switching to a console ctrl+alt+f1... everything is fine... then switch to the second console ctrl+alt+f2 and audio stops... then go back to first console and it resumes?
[20:58] <mrpocket1> how do i make mounted drives not shut up on the desktop
[20:58] <MamboKurt> easytarget: is it enabled by default in ibex?
[20:58] <gerald> hi
[20:58] <person> I want to partition an external hard drive, but I'm scared because I don't know anything about them. Shall I just pretend it's an internal one? Do I need to know anything about external ones before I go ahead?
[20:59] <ArcSighter> C-S-B: I'll check, thanks
[20:59] <gerald> is there a way to move multiple directories at once?
[20:59] <person> Sorry; I would do my homework about it usually, but I'm in a real hurry.
[20:59] <tuxflavrdwafls> Hello again,  everytime i try to open a dvd in the default movie player the system crashes.  any thoughts?
[20:59] <C-S-B> person, use gparted, it's safe and can do any partioning you could think of without killing any data
[20:59] <plazia> is it listening for keyboard events while on the linux console?
[20:59] <easytarget> MamboKurt: no idea.
[21:00] <person> C-S-B: I've had GParted screw up on me horribly before.
[21:00] <MamboKurt> easytarget: thanks. so i will digg through that crap.
[21:00] <person> C-S-B: Are they different in any way in terms of how the partition editor will treat them?
[21:00] <easytarget> MamboKurt: good luck ;-)
[21:01] <C-S-B> gparted is different to fdisk
[21:01] <gerald> is there a way to move multiple directories at once?
[21:01] <person> C-S-B: I know
[21:01] <MamboKurt> easytarget: yeah ... thanks :)
[21:01] <person> C-S-B; I'm asking if it will make any difference using an external hard drive as opposed tointernal hard drive
[21:02] <Sakamura> dearly gparted, we are gathered here today. To mourn over the lack of partitions on this disk. He was a great disk, supported three lovely partitions and was a great husband to his now widowed mbr
[21:03] <thiebaude> lol
[21:03] <C-S-B> peqqqq
[21:03] <C-S-B> person, treat the external like the internal
[21:03] <person> Thanks C-S-B
[21:04] <freeflowcauvery> somebody....anybody. Can't upgrade feisty fawn to 8.04. sudo apt-get install update-core-manager doesnt work, and Update Manager doesn't show New Distribution release....
[21:04] <KMSA> Hey guys, new to ubuntu, having an issue with sound...any one up to helping?
[21:04] <sebsebseb> freeflowcauvery: you have to upgrade to gutsy first
[21:04] <sebsebseb> freeflowcauvery: then from gutsy to hardy
[21:05] <Cpudan80> KMSA: what kind of issue
[21:05] <KMSA> NO sound is playing, running: Kubuntu
[21:05] <freeflowcauvery> sebsebseb, ouch...thanks.... but since core-update-manager is not updating anymore, how would I upgrade to gutsy?
[21:05] <Pici> freeflowcauvery: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#Fully%20updating%207.04 , there are special instructions for Feisty because it has reached its End Of Life.
[21:05] <Cpudan80> freeflowcauvery: you're not supposed to be able to upgrade FF to 8.04
[21:05] <Cpudan80> freeflowcauvery: you have to go through Gutsy (7.10) first
[21:05] <sebsebseb> freeflowcauvery: by editing the sources.list
[21:06] <sebsebseb> freeflowcauvery: in text editor
[21:06] <coz_> hey guys.. for some reason on the last several version   /system/preferences/power management  when I set "put_display to sleep when inactive for "  "never" it still shuts off   any way to insure this doesnt happen?
[21:06] <Cpudan80> oh sorry to steal your thunder sebsebseb
[21:06] <sebsebseb> freeflowcauvery: or just get your data.  and do a clean install of hardy or intrepid
[21:08] <gerald> hi can anyone help?
[21:08] <gerald> is there a way to move multiple directories at once?
[21:08] <zsquareplusc> gerald: in terminal or nautlius?
[21:08] <gerald> terminal
[21:09] <Viper> hi guys
[21:09] <Viper> i need to add win7 to grub
[21:09] <zsquareplusc> gerald: you can have multiple sources and one shared target for "mv"
[21:09] <easytarget> gerald: midnight commander maybe?
[21:09] <freeflowcauvery> sebsebseb, I see...and after updating my sources list I should be able to run core-update-manager?
[21:09] <Viper> the media folder says it is at sda5
[21:09] <TuTUXG> gerald, mv fold1 fold2 ... destiny
[21:09] <KMSA> ANy idea, cpudan80?
[21:09] <gerald> TuTUXG: thx
[21:09] <gerald> zsquareplusc: thx
[21:09] <Viper>  i need to add win7 to grub
[21:10] <eseven73> I believe "Folder" is a Windows term isn't it?
[21:10] <whydidntyougoogl> eseven73: yes
[21:10] <Viper> yeah maybe
[21:10] <sebsebseb> freeflowcauvery: you do the whole procedure in the terminal after changing sources
[21:10] <mzuverink> I need toa good how to to get root access to proftp w/ user root from anotherlocal machine, any help?
[21:10] <sebsebseb> !upgrade
[21:10] <Viper> is this correct ?
[21:10] <Viper> title 		Windows7
[21:10] <Viper> root		(sda5)
[21:10] <Danuk-men> #Ubuntu-es
[21:10] <eseven73> !enter | Viper
[21:10] <freeflowcauvery> sebsebseb, Thanks...I'm going to try this....appreciate it.
[21:11] <Danuk-men> i have a problem, i cant join to other channels
[21:11] <Danuk-men> can't
[21:11] <Viper> write "/j #channel"
[21:11] <Danuk-men> what can i do ?
[21:11] <whydidntyougoogl> dandel: it may take some time to join some channels
[21:11] <sebsebseb> freeflowcauvery: ok good luck
[21:11] <phD_> Danuk-men, write with #
[21:12] <sint> hey i have an old system with "geforce 2 ti" graphic card and i don't know how to install it. anyone knows a good tutorial?!
[21:12] <Danuk-men> any ?
[21:12] <sint> or maybe the correct package!?
[21:12] <Viper> someone that knows about grub can help me in pvp ?
[21:12] <Danuk-men> ¿?
[21:12] <_VIM_> some channels require that you Identify to nickserv Danuk-men
[21:12] <enovativ> i have upgraded to 8.10, and now my wireless does not work, what is the difference in "infrastructure" and "ad hoc" ?
[21:12] <whydidntUgoogle> _VIM_: #ubuntu-es requires no nickserv ID
[21:12] <dandel> 0o
[21:13] <_VIM_> whydidntUgoogle: I never said it did :)
[21:13] <whydidntUgoogle> _VIM_: touche!
[21:13] <_VIM_> I was just saying maybe that's why he cant join some rooms
[21:13] <sint> i tried to install nvidia-glx-legacy but its not in the list
[21:13] <sebsebseb> sint: in Intrepid Ibex?
[21:13] <kellojoe> I want to install ubuntu in an internet cyber cafe. Someone help with timing/billing applications available for ubuntu
[21:13] <sint> sebastien: ya
[21:14] <sebsebseb> sint:  ok that has a completly differnet xorg version to hardy.  and so  no legacy anymore
[21:14] <wildbat> any suggestion of a good C/C++ IDE ?
[21:14] <sint> sebsebseb: so what to do?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> sint: downgrade to Hardy
[21:14] <sebsebseb> sint: well that's not really a downgrade as such, since it's long term suppourt
[21:14] <sint> sebsebseb: what?! :(
[21:15] <sebsebseb> sint: no suppourt for older graphics cards  in Ibex with that xorg version
[21:15] <Viper> how do i add win7 to grub menu ??
[21:15] <enovativ> i have upgraded to 8.10, and now my wireless does not work, what is the difference in "infrastructure" and "ad hoc" ?
[21:15] <sebsebseb> sint: it's even mentioned in the release notes
[21:15] <Viper> how do i add win7 to grub menu ??
[21:15] <sebsebseb> !grub
[21:15] <sint> sebsebseb: i didn't know, but i thought thats on of the great things about linux to support older hardware as well
[21:15] <sebsebseb> sint: it is, but
[21:15] <sebsebseb> sint:  that also depends on the distro
[21:15] <danbhfive> Viper: I suspect the same as any windows install: with a chainloader +1 statement
[21:16] <mespejel> anyone using ubuntu 8.10?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> sint:  and they haven't made it that clear, but  they  want a lot of people to be using hardy still really
[21:16] <sint> sebsebseb: sadly i can't downgrade, cause its the system of a friend just for surfing and i am almost finished with install
[21:16] <danbhfive> !anyone > mespejel
[21:16] <sebsebseb> sint:  Intrepid Ibex was was meant to be a lot a bit more cutting edge
[21:16] <mcknin> Question: I do not have a separate mount for my root "/" directory (only one for /boot and swap)... I want to change fstab to add ACL to '/', but I am afraid of messing something up. Can someone suggest to me a back up plan? IE: If I change fstab and reboot and it does not work, how can I recover?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> sint:  ah yes
[21:16] <sebsebseb> sint:  you can't just downgrade that's true,  ,but you can do a clean install  and put hardy on
[21:17] <mcknin> Note: it was probably a bad idea to not have /home and / on two separate partitions...but it's a raid with terabytes of data, and without some major physical injury, it would be hard to change :)
[21:17] <sint> sebsebseb: ya, but sadly i won't do it. i think i will stick with nv then, even when it sucks
[21:17] <KMSA> Guys I'm having an issue with sound...anyone able to help?
[21:17] <mespejel> I wonder if ubuntu 8.10 is having a lot of issues? I am worry since is the first time I am trying it and when it start running (the splash loading), it stock there
[21:17] <enovativ> i have upgraded to 8.10, and now my wireless does not work, what is the difference in "infrastructure" and "ad hoc" ?
[21:17] <sint> sebsebseb: but thanks for your help anyway
[21:17] <mespejel> should I stick to 8.04?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[21:17] <thiebaude> Hi ActionParsnip1
[21:17] <_VIM_> mespejel: what do you need in 8.10 that's not in 8.04?
[21:17] <thiebaude> lol
[21:18] <ActionParsnip1> mespejel: if you are happy with hardy, why fix it?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> mespejel: depends  on your computer
[21:18] <kellojoe> anybody with cyber billing idea suitable for ubuntu hardy?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | kellojoe
[21:19] <sebsebseb> sint:  what hardy re install is easy,  in fact those partitions you done now are probably not done in the best way,  for example do you have a seperate home partition?
[21:19] <Crayboff> i need to know the best music player, not amarok though
[21:19] <mespejel> _VIM_: I am not sure.. i guess is I am just use to upgrade everything... that's all.. but what are the basic differences?
[21:19] <sebsebseb> Crayboff: Banshee Intrepid Ibex version
[21:19] <_VIM_> mespejel: hardy is LTS
[21:19] <_VIM_> !LTS
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> Crayboff: there is no best of anything in nlife
[21:19] <sebsebseb> Crayboff: the one in hardy sucks, but there is a ppa that can be added for the Intrepid Ibex version
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> !player | Crayboff
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> Crayboff: try a few, see which you like.
[21:20] <thiebaude> totem
[21:20] <ActionParsnip1> amarok for me, xul remote is killer
[21:20] <Crayboff> sebsebseb, what is this ppa thing? i do have ibex
[21:20] <sint> sebsebseb: ya i have. i know how to install ubuntu ;) but i don't have the time now, cause its almost half to 11 in the night and i wanna go out now. he will live with nv, cause he just want to surf and write some mails
[21:20] <thiebaude> amarok is very good also
[21:20] <kellojoe> vlc
[21:20] <thiebaude> songbird
[21:20] <kellojoe> vlc rocks
[21:20] <_VIM_> sint nv?
[21:20] <RatPackSopra-> I love VLC
[21:21] <RatPackSopra-> I've been using it for years
[21:21] <thiebaude> songbird has it's own web browser, too
[21:21] <ActionParsnip1> mplayer for video, doesnt need an x server :)
[21:21] <daneng> does anybody have also problem with crashes of the xchat gnome gui?
[21:21] <RatPackSopra-> Hello Guys, I have another issue and this one IS a real issue. My Dell Latitude D620 laptop runs Ubuntu 8.10 beautifully except for one thing. After it has been up for a couple of days the audio will "hang up" (that's what it sounds like at least.) It will have a vibrating chatter and the only thing that will stop it is a reboot. I've heard it said that there are some issues with with Pulse Audio and Ubuntu, but I have No
[21:21] <RatPackSopra->  knowledge of the situation. Could it be that simple or might it be something else? By the way it JUST happened and that's what brought me here.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip1> RatPackSopra-: try restarting alsa or pulse or hal instead
[21:22] <RatPackSopra-> ActionParsnip1, how do I go about that?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip1> RatPackSopra-: if you are using pulse, try switching to alsa
[21:22] <RatPackSopra-> gotcha
[21:22] <ActionParsnip1> RatPackSopra-: sudo /etc/init.d/<whatever> restart
[21:23] <_VIM_> daneng: have you tried Konversation yet?
[21:23] <sint> _VIM_: ya, i had tutorial which told me that the default driver is nv
[21:24] <daneng> _VIM: no i just removed the gnome gui and using the original gui, it seems that it works now, so maybe a bug in the gnome gui? i'm downloading via xdcc
[21:24] <_VIM_> xdcc? O.o xchat is in the repos
[21:24] <KenBW2> is Jaunty due a new theme or have they given up?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip1> !info xchat
[21:24] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | KenBW2
[21:24] <RatPackSopra-> ActionParsnip1, I would need to know the correct name to use the command ...I tried putting alsa in the string you gave me and it said Command not found
[21:25] <_VIM_> Dont get the "Gnome Xchat" it sucks, get the regular xchat
[21:25] <heatmzzr> hello all
[21:25] <ActionParsnip1> RatPackSopra-: try typing the first a in alsa and pressing tab ;)
[21:25] <thiebaude> get xchat common
[21:25] <daneng> i also like the original xchat much more
[21:25] <ActionParsnip1> pidgin for irc here
[21:26] <thiebaude> me too
[21:26] <shausam27> how do i put a dock on the bottom of my desktop like mac
[21:27] <thiebaude> !avant
[21:27] <daneng> i cannot use multi im programs like pidgin for irc because i mainly need irc for downloading and i would miss such functions like automatic accepting of dcc file offers and saving to an specific folder
[21:27] <_VIM_> shausam27: try gnome-do
[21:27] <_VIM_> or is it gnome.do,,,bah one of those
[21:28] <ActionParsnip1> daneng: i'd NEVER have auto accepting of downloads, thats risky stuff
[21:28] <ActionParsnip1> daneng: i can accept files in pidgin. i just choose not to
[21:28] <_VIM_> especially on windows, ActionParsnip1
[21:28] <RatPackSopra-> ActionParsnip1, I have ran the command with alsa-utils and pulseaudio both, but I'm still getting the vibrating hung up chatter noise. Any other things to try?
[21:28] <shausam27> is that a program gnome-do
[21:28] <_VIM_> not so dangerious on Linux
[21:28] <_VIM_> shausam27: yep
[21:28] <daneng> i have another question... does anybody know if ubuntu server is working fine with fujitsu siemens server eg. the tx200 s4 (intel 5000z chipset, codename blackford)?
[21:29] <shausam27> thank you
[21:29] <ActionParsnip1> RatPackSopra-: try hal
[21:29] <RatPackSopra-> thanks
[21:29] <_VIM_> np
[21:29] <ActionParsnip1> daneng: can't see why not
[21:29] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | daneng
[21:29] <daneng> it's not in the compatible/certified list of ubuntu server
[21:30] <ActionParsnip1> daneng: the make / model is moot, its the components inside that count
[21:30] <RatPackSopra-> ActionParsnip1, I tried that one and it is still hung up ...dang. Anything else?
[21:30] <lfaraone> In cron, can I use wraparound numbers for weekends? (like Sat/Sun events with 7-0)?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip1> RatPackSopra-: try switching to alsa
[21:31] <ActionParsnip1> !cron | lfaraone
[21:31] <daneng> i have to choose between win2k8 x64 with hyper v and ubuntu server but i think ubuntu will do it's job nicier
[21:31] <RatPackSopra-> ActionParsnip1,  how do I switch?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip1> daneng: i'd run bsd personally
[21:31] <ActionParsnip1> !sound | RatPackSopra-
[21:31] <ugliefrog> is there a channel for pc repair help? if so could you plz tell me the channel name
[21:31] <lfaraone> ActionParsnip1: I know what cron is.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip1> lfaraone: its got examples in there. I can tell you know what cron is
[21:32] <lfaraone> ActionParsnip1: ok, thanks.
[21:32] <daneng> i'm afraid of bsd's complicity, ubuntu is so nice and easy a bit like mac os x
[21:32] <jiffe92> freebsd is awesome for servers
[21:33] <jiffe92> but sucks for a desktop
[21:33] <jiffe92> pcbsd isn't there yet either
[21:33] <ActionParsnip1> jiffe92: pcbsd isnt too offensive, gimme gentoo anyday
[21:34] <daneng> i don't like gentoo anymore since the stage 1 installs are missing
[21:35] <regeya> depends on your definition of desktop, really.  for me, both ubuntu and fedora are suitable as a desktop, and used to use gentoo as a desktop os
[21:35] <usser> how long does kernel compilation usually take?
[21:35] <regeya> usser, what sort of hardware are you building a kernel on?
[21:35] <daneng> at the moment ubuntu desktop edition is my server os on a mac mini
[21:35] <thiebaude> for me it's ubuntu with fluxbox
[21:36] <usser> regeya, model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          540  @ 1.86GHz, 1.5Gb of RAM
[21:37] <RatPackSopra-> ActionParsnip1, when I double click it brings up a window with Device at the top and 2 choices HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer) and SigmaTel STAC9200 (OSS Mixer) ...THen there is a preferences tab at the bottom part of the panel which only brings up a Volume COntrol Pref window with 3 choices of playback choices.
[21:37] <tuxflavrdwafls> ok, everytime i try to play a dvd no matter what application I use the whole system crashes.  I am pretty sure I downloaded all the codecs, from medi, and restricted and stuff.  I have no idea what to do, please help.  thankyou
[21:38] <regeya> usser, the other thing we would need to know is whether you're using a barely-modified ubuntu config :->  it's highly dependent upon your hardware AND your kernel config, really
[21:38] <regeya> let's just take a wild stab and say 30 min. for a kernel build.
[21:38] <BattleStarJesus> Ubuntu Studio is is weak, almost useless.  I offered to help the project but developers are jerks., leading me believe the project is gravely flawed.  Hopefully I am wrong.
[21:39] <usser> regeya, I see. well, hm... just trying to build my first kernel. i barely modified vanilla kernel config, just remove support for hardware i dont have an compiled in the drivers that i do
[21:39] <plazia> BattleStarJesus, maybe they'd only accept help from a basestar.
[21:39] <regeya> I had a slackware machine years ago running Slack, was a 486 with aa whole whopping 8MB of RAM.  took most of a day to build v2.0.36
[21:39] <methods> will ubuntu shutdown automatically if the system overheats ?
[21:40] <Dillizar> how can i make a altered version of ubuntu and then make a live cd from it??
[21:40] <usser> regeya, ubuntu determines what modules to load on startup right, so if i compiled them in there isnt any config file anywhere that would tell it to load the modules, which are already in the kernel?
[21:41] <vol> Argh! My repo downloads from us.archive.ubuntu.com start at about 8kb/s and end up at about 500b/s! Meanwhile, if I wget from my personal web server, I get 300Kb/s, so the issue isn't my connection. Is there a way to change what mirror I'm pointing to, so I can get faster than dialup speeds to download hundreds of megs for work?
[21:41] <bangalibabu> which desktop is better gnome or kde?
[21:42] <Myrtti> !best | bangalibabu
[21:42] <bangalibabu> okay
[21:42] <ubuntu-n00b> I recently install guarddog firewall for ubuntu then uninstalled it and i cant get online anymore :-( its on some loopback thing i think, any ideas?
[21:42] <shausam27> i'm trying to have my desktop have a program search like a mac
[21:43] <tuxflavrdwafls> ok, everytime i try to play a dvd no matter what application I use the whole system crashes.  I am pretty sure I downloaded all the codecs, from medi, and restricted and stuff.  I have no idea what to do, please help.  thankyou
[21:43] <walid> what does the $svn up command ?
[21:43] <cellofellow> How do I use netstat to tell which pid is using a specific port?
[21:44] <ubuntu-n00b> it says my ethernet device does not  exist but shows it in network tools
[21:44] <hlm> gnome schedule closes when attempting to open , can someone assist me with this?
[21:44] <elitecoder> I can't find a version of software I want in the package list. Does that mean I have to compile it from scratch or is there another way?
[21:45] <danbhfive> elitecoder: getdeb.net might work
[21:45] <elitecoder> ok ty
[21:45] <walid>  what does the $svn up command ?
[21:45] <elitecoder> It updates the local copy of a svn repository
[21:46] <walid> thnk you
[21:46] <shausam27> can it be done that having a menu bar across the desktop  like a mac
[21:47] <mgolisch> shausam27: maybe have a look at avant-window-navigator or cairo-dock
[21:48] <shausam27> thank you
[21:48] <panickedthumb> shausam27, do you mean the menu bar at the top or the dock at the bottom?
[21:48] <ubuntu-n00b> I recently install guarddog firewall for ubuntu then uninstalled it and i cant get online anymore :-( its on some loopback thing i think, any ideas?
[21:48] <ugliefrog> i need a irc channel for computer repair troubleshooting etc.. any help appreciated
[21:49] <cellofellow> shausam27: both docs and global menus can be done in gnome. I've done a global menu and hated it because it doesn't mix well with sloppy focus, but if you prefer focus-on-click then go ahead.
[21:49] <shausam27> dock at the bottm
[21:49] <panickedthumb> ok yeah, then what mgolisch said works
[21:49] <anarchman1> Hi, how can I see what graphics card driver I am using?
[21:49] <mgolisch> i hate both of them
[21:49] <mgolisch> :)
[21:49] <panickedthumb> mgolisch, yeah me too
[21:50] <panickedthumb> turns out I'm just not a fan of docks
[21:50] <mgolisch> iam very happy with my std gnome desktop, or awesome on my laptop
[21:50] <mgolisch> :)
[21:50] <panickedthumb> awesome?
[21:50] <mgolisch> panickedthumb: its a tiling windowmanager
[21:50] <lancom> hi
[21:50] <panickedthumb> ah,  a WM I haven't heard of
[21:51] <tuxflavrdwafls> ok, everytime i try to play a dvd no matter what application I use the whole system crashes.  I am pretty sure I downloaded all the codecs, from medi, and restricted and stuff.  I have no idea what to do, please help.  thankyou
[21:51] <thiebaude> !amiwm
[21:51] <lancom> most of time
[21:51] <lancom> video problem is because of video card driver
[21:52] <vol> How do I change the mirror that I download from at the command line?
[21:52] <lancom> q
[21:52] <lancom> quit
[21:52] <whydidntUgoogle> lol
[21:52] <panickedthumb> mgolisch, just looked it up. A little too barebones for my taste. I got too much of the barebones in CPSC classes
[21:52] <panickedthumb> lancom had some trouble there
[21:53] <flustrated> can someone help me with a ubuntu 8.04 problem with python.  I've googled and read through the ubuntu forums and can't find a way to fix my problem.  Error I'm getting is this when trying to do any apt-gets or apptitudes:  Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
[21:53] <tuxflavrdwafls> quit
[21:53] <panickedthumb> vol, edit /etc/apt/sources.list to change the locations. That's what I always do. There is an easier way but if you have anything custom it wipes it out (at least it has for me)
[21:54] <ugliefrog> i need a irc channel for computer repair troubleshooting etc.. any help appreciated
[21:54] <tlacaelel> whoa, lots of people here
[21:54] <_VIM_> vol: yeah just gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:54] <mgolisch> yeah its probably one of the biggest chans i guess
[21:54] <_VIM_> it is
[21:54] <mgolisch> :)
[21:55] <somebee> hi. I've just got a new webserver setup with ubuntu server 64bit.. would you recommend using apt-get or aptitude to install packages? or is it two sides of the same thing?
[21:55] <ubuntu-n00b> whats the equivelent of ipconfig /release /renew in ubuntu?
[21:56] <cellofellow> I know that this particular address and port are free, but SSH chttp://monoport.com/39535an't bind it. What's up?
[21:56] <cellofellow> oops
[21:56] <cellofellow> I know that this particular address and port are free, but SSH can't bind it. What's up? http://monoport.com/39535
[21:56] <cdavis> Would someone define what this regex does?  ($subject =~ /\*\* RECOVERY (\w+) - (.*) OK \*\*/)
[21:56] <_VIM_> ubuntu-n00b: some people say Aptitude handles dependencies better
[21:56] <panickedthumb> ugliefrog, I found this for PC repair, the instructions are for mirc, but you should be able to see what you need to do
[21:56] <panickedthumb> http://www.pctechbytes.net/forums/showthread.php?s=560334d95fb4bffbfd8d42030deeb061&t=15387
[21:56] <panickedthumb> somebee, I have no preference, though some prefer aptitude
[21:56] <oskar-> somebee:  i would say the latter, just two interfaces to the package system
[21:57] <ubuntu-n00b> my internet stopped working, it works with the life cd but not on my installed version
[21:57] <Administrator_> i have a problem with ubuntu 8.04 when i try to run the live cd in my ibook g3 dual usb this is a pic of my problem : http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/dum1_2006/20-02-09_1337.jpg
[21:57] <ugliefrog> panickedthumb: Thank you very much
[21:57] <somebee> oskar-: so I can even use both of them for different packages? (not that I would ever=)
[21:58] <tlacaelel> I have an old laptop and want to set up a media server.  do I need ubuntu server or will the normal ubuntu release do
[21:58] <tlacaelel> ?
[21:58] <panickedthumb> Administrator_, wow, that's interesting
[21:58] <Administrator_> u have never seen that b4 ?
[21:58] <oskar-> somebee:  yes, i think so
[21:58] <panickedthumb> somebee, yeah, you can. I'd recommend sticking with aptitude if you start using that one, since it makes it easier to remove dependencies you don't need anymore
[21:59] <panickedthumb> (actually that may  not be true anymore)
[21:59] <adamw> hi, guys. quick question, if anyone knows the answer - what driver does ubuntu use for r500 and later Radeon cards by default? radeon or radeonhd?
[21:59] <panickedthumb> Administrator_, never seen that, but you might be able to change your resolution to make it fill up
[21:59] <fcami> or fglrx for that matter
[21:59] <xavier_> Hi all
[21:59] <Administrator_> i have tried that already it makes it even worse
[21:59] <vol> panickedthumb, _VIM_: Thanks. I did :%s/us.archive.ubuntu.com/www.gtlib.gatech.edu\/pub/ , and tried xmission after that, but neither one of them have the package sun-java6-jdk. Is this wrong: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?action=show&redirect=Archive ? What's going on?
[22:00] <_VIM_> vol personally I use !Medibuntu for java stuff
[22:00] <demonotaku> ah much better
[22:01] <_VIM_> !Medibuntu
[22:01] <vol> _VIM_ .... well, that's great, but aside the point
[22:01] <vol> doesn't the fact that I can get it from us.archives.ubuntu.com mean that it's reasonable to expect it to exist on gatech?
[22:01] <vol> or xmission?
[22:01] <demonotaku> The default font size is way too big for my screen in xchat lmao
[22:01] <flustrated> can someone help me with a ubuntu 8.04 problem with python.  I've googled and read through the ubuntu forums and can't find a way to fix my problem.  Error I'm getting is this when trying to do any apt-gets or apptitudes:  Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
[22:02] <Fund> please help me in repos. issue
[22:02] <Fund> i want a list for feisty 7.04
[22:02] <Fund> where can I find it
[22:02] <panickedthumb> I haven't spent a lot of time in this channel for a few years now, even though I almost always idle in it, but wow, questions fly like crazy! :)
[22:03] <mrwes> Fund, you try google?
[22:03] <pieces> can anyone help me setting up dual monitors using two separate video cards?
[22:03] <guntbert> !eol | Fund
[22:03] <fcami> panickedthumb: and not many answers :)
[22:03] <fcami> anyone using a recent ATI card here ?
[22:03] <nightrid3r> panickedthumb try to only read answers, they come slower :)
[22:03] <pieces> fcami: how recent?
[22:04] <mrwes> fcami, no -- there's an answer :P
[22:04] <fcami> pieces: R500+
[22:04] <Cyntek> Big_Ghost,
[22:05] <fcami> pieces: X1300 and up
[22:05] <pieces> fcami: nope sorry
[22:05] <fcami> pieces: ok :)
[22:05] <Guest29122> hello
[22:05] <Big_Ghost> cyntek, u gay
[22:05] <Big_Ghost> lol jk
[22:05] <Cyntek> Big_Ghost, eat d*ck!
[22:06] <Neonexus> anyone here running Jaunty?
[22:06] <adamw> ah, well, i'll ask in the forums. thanks
[22:06] <mrwes> hrmm
[22:06] <demonotaku> nah, xbuntu 8.10
[22:07] <monkey2> I just installed ubuntu 8.10, but all it does after boot is drop me into a grub shell, any ideas?
[22:07] <guntbert> Big_Ghost: Cyntek stop that please!
[22:07] <demonotaku> working on setting up a emergency OS after reading a article
[22:07] <Cyntek> no
[22:07] <LiraNuna> Hi, I'm missing -lGL, what package is it under?
[22:07] <guntbert> !jaunty | Neonexus
[22:07] <LiraNuna> I've never had to manually install anything for it
[22:07] <Neonexus> thanks ubottu
[22:08] <The-Compiler> Coukd anyone tell me why at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/104714/ line 2 works but line 3 doesn't (and yes, I have to use backticks and can't use $())
[22:08] <Big_Ghost> hey ppl i have a video problem with ubuntu 8.04 o n ibook g3 dualusb 500 Mhz this is what it looks like http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/dum1_2006/20-02-09_1337.jpg
[22:08] <The-Compiler> *Could
[22:08] <Big_Ghost> cyntek, please stop u hurt my feelings
[22:08] <Dillizar> !squashfs
[22:09] <Cyntek> Big_Ghost, don't worry, you know you like it that way!
[22:09] <Dillizar> what is the last squashfs source
[22:09] <hlm> I just found a really old video card, what are the chances of ubuntu supporting it?
[22:09] <_VIM_> !ops | Cyntek
[22:09] <demonotaku> pretty good
[22:09] <ReAn> looking for the latest mini-disc installer (the minimal one)
[22:09] <ReAn> can't seem to get it though the main webpage's navigation
[22:10] <Dillizar> what is the last squashfs kernel*
[22:10] <Cyntek> hahah
[22:10] <guntbert> !repeat | Dillizar
[22:10] <_VIM_> Cyntek: you're just lucky the ops are snoozing
[22:10] <mneptok> Cyntek: PG rating, please
[22:10] <gnomefreak> Cyntek: how about staying with support
[22:10] <n8tuserf> Dillizar -> download the iso and then look at what squashfs i thas
[22:10] <gnomefreak> _VIM_: yes i am ;)
[22:10] <Big_Ghost> yes cyntek listen to them
[22:10] <Nickyy> is there a sprintf variant which can specify in which order the other parameters should be included?
[22:11] <gnomefreak> Big_Ghost: dont start him up please
[22:11] <Dillizar> guntbert, i didnt repeat i had mistaken my question
[22:11] <Cyntek> take it how you want to....
[22:11] <guntbert> Dillizar: ok, sorry :)
[22:11] <Big_Ghost> my bad
[22:11] <mneptok> Cyntek: PG rating, please. understood?
[22:11] <Dillizar> n8tuserf, do i must :( can i just ask some one :D
[22:11] <OltreIrc`7412> hello
[22:12] <OltreIrc`7412> !list
[22:12] <Cyntek> Do you understood, i did not do anything wrong. so stfu.
[22:12] <monkey2> I just installed 8.10 server, but I don't boot into ubuntu, intead I get dropped into a grub shell, hitting escape doesn't work either to get to a boot menu. I am not sure what is going on, any ideas? Thanks in advance!
[22:12] <n8tuserf> Dillizar -> not many have their livecd iso with them, so yeah you download, dont take that much time
[22:12] <panickedthumb> mneptok FTW
[22:12] <_VIM_> ty mneptok
[22:12] <mrwes> guess not all are sleeping
[22:13] <mneptok> given enough rope, most trolls compulsively tie a noose.
[22:13] <_VIM_> they sleep with one eye open
[22:13] <_VIM_> :)
[22:13] <tom760> i have ubuntu running and want to try a kernel.org kernel.  is there a quick way to make a config that only has the drivers i need / that are currently loaded?
[22:13] <Big_Ghost> http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/dum1_2006/20-02-09_1337.jpg how can i fix the :ibook g3 dual usb
[22:13] <mrwes> monkey2, try typing find /boot/vmlinuz
[22:14] <bedmunds_> nick brandonban6
[22:14] <Dillizar> n8tuserf, i have a live cds maybe all of them :D i will make iso out of them and try it :D will that work
[22:15] <n8tuserf> Dillizar -> no no, you dont need to make an iso, allyou have to do is mount the livecd iso and take out to see what squashfs is in there.  i can tell you, 7.10 is not same as in 8.10
[22:16] <The-Compiler> Could anyone tell me why at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/104714/ line 2 works but line 3 doesn't (and yes, I have to use backticks and can't use $())
[22:16] <rrplay> make oldconfig
[22:16] <monkey2> mrwes: hmm file not found
[22:16] <rrplay> ! make oldconfig
[22:16] <mrwes> monkey2, you installed GRUB to the MBR?
[22:16] <gary222> hi guys I been in forums about a shutdown issue, what happens computer shuts down but not fully,only way to reset is by unplugging machine would anybody know if there is a fix for this with a link
[22:16] <mrwes> !grub | monkey2
[22:17] <dwxreaper> how do I remove a packege, when it fails to be removed even with dpkg --purge
[22:17] <dwxreaper> (says dependancies)
[22:17] <guntbert> Nickyy: I'm not sure what you want. Did you read man printf though?
[22:17] <monkey2> mrwes: do you think I forgot to set the bootflag on the /boot partition ?
[22:17] <mrwes> monkey2, that would do it :)
[22:17] <monkey2> mrwes: would that result in this problem
[22:18] <gary222> gateway emachine hardy 8.04 with all updates too
[22:18] <mrwes> monkey2, boot with the live CD and fix it with gparted
[22:18] <monkey2> mrwes: I should be able to boot into a live cd and fix it right
[22:18] <mrwes> :)
[22:18] <monkey2> mrwes: ah, cool thanks
[22:18] <Big_Ghost> can anyone help me fix this http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/dum1_2006/20-02-09_1337.jpg
[22:18] <Cpudan80> The-Compiler: try #bash
[22:18] <Veratyr9> I screwed my webcam up by following the instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755 (which i didnt notice was 4 years old) now i want to remove that setup, and just return ubuntu back to the stock webcam drivers it came with.  anybody know how to do this?
[22:18] <monkey2> mrwes: I though it did do that, but oh well, i'll check and get back to you, thanks.
[22:19] <mrwes> monkey2, read the URL's I posted to you
[22:19] <monkey2> mrwes: ok
[22:19] <AlanJenkins> evening all
[22:19] <mrwes> o/ AlanJenkins
[22:20]  * AlanJenkins waves to mrwes
[22:20] <silentContender> What packages do I need to rip and encode mp3 and m4a.  The music I've ripped doesn't seem to play on my Ipod Nano
[22:20] <rohil> Hi All .. i am tired of getting lamp to work. Initially, I had xampp installed .. so after that, I installed lamp , seemingly there was conflicting. Now, I removed all packages and installed from synaptic or apt-get , it is not working. Earlier error was that browser was trying to open phtml file when I browser localhost .. now browser cant connect to localhost...even trying to start apache2 through terminal gives file errors.
[22:20] <Maegllin> allo guys
[22:20] <AlanJenkins> silentContender: lame and faac
[22:20] <Maegllin> i have a serius problem with ubuntu 8.10
[22:20] <silentContender> AlanJenkins, I have faac, is it enough?
[22:20] <Maegllin> i would appreciate it if you can help with it and solve it :P
[22:21] <Cpudan80> Maegllin: and this problem is ....
[22:21] <panickedthumb> Maegllin, you haven't told us what it is yet
[22:21] <therootest> hello. can someone help me install SMOOTH FONTS in firefox 3.0 / ubuntu 8.10?
[22:21] <Maegllin> no sound
[22:21] <AlanJenkins> silentContender: lame was for mp3 and faac was aac (m4a)
[22:21] <Maegllin> untill yesterday i had sound! but not today
[22:21] <AlanJenkins> faac should be fine tho in isolation
[22:21] <Veratyr9> theres like 10 people with questions to 1 person with answers on here today
[22:21] <panickedthumb> Maegllin, any recent updates?
[22:21] <Maegllin> yy yesterday night
[22:22] <AlanJenkins> silentContender: in what way does it not play on the nano? how did you transfer it etc?
[22:22] <mrwes> Maegllin, you right clicked on the speaker icon and open the mixer? PCM is not muted?
[22:22] <silentContender> AlanJenkins, Never mind I don't even have faac.  But anyways, how did I manage to convert the songs
[22:22] <Maegllin> but just to be more specific! i have sound when i'm using Amarok  but i don't have any sound when using mozilla
[22:22] <silentContender> AlanJenkins, the songs play fine on Amarok, but are simply displayed and skipped on the Ipod
[22:22] <Maegllin> also no sounds from amsn
[22:22] <rohil> what is a sure shot way to completely remove packages .. so that the folders it leaves behind do not conflict
[22:23] <Maegllin> so any ideas?
[22:23] <AlanJenkins> silentContender: not sure how you could have... unless you used gtkpod-aac which may have its own aac codec
[22:23] <jove> what application of Ubuntu to convert mp3 to wav/audio file ?
[22:23] <AlanJenkins> jove: soundconverter is a good one
[22:23] <AlanJenkins> its in repos
[22:24] <mrwes> +1 for sound converter
[22:24] <mrwes> it works
[22:24] <Maegllin> ..
[22:24] <panickedthumb> Maegllin, I had something similar happen a while back. I had onboard sound as well as a PCI sound card, and it had changed my default audio source. You might want to check that
[22:24] <jove> alanjenkins, I don't sound converter in my ubuntu....how to run install on it ?
[22:24] <Coded1> im trying to get my tv (s-video out) working on my radeon 9250(RV280).  It works right up until X loads then gets "no signal" i've tried looking around but no luck, im running intrepid and using radeon drivers (non proprietary)
[22:24] <Maegllin> hmm can you help a bit cause i'm quite noob in Ubuntu
[22:25] <mrwes> is listening to Tom Petty Live at the Chicago Vic -- BTW :)
[22:25] <silentContender> AlanJenkins, I'm trying to rip with faac installed.  Will let you know how it works
[22:25] <akorpija> can anybody help me figure out why my windows won't boot up after i installed hardy? i think it might be the way GParted has set it up as a Mountpoint, since i CAN see the files from ubuntu that are in that partition and it DOES start loading but then becomes an Unmountable Boot Sector
[22:25] <AlanJenkins> jove: are you in ubuntu or kubunut?
[22:25] <AlanJenkins> silentContender: ok cool
[22:25] <akorpija> also, running chkdsk doesn't work since it says there are too many unfixable errors...
[22:25] <panickedthumb> Maegllin, come to think of it, I don't remember how to do that either. Lemme poke around
[22:25] <AlanJenkins> grr and my typos
[22:25] <jove> Alanjenkins, I am in Ubuntu
[22:25] <AlanJenkins> kubuntu*
[22:25] <akorpija> (windows xp)
[22:25] <mib_htp3aa> hey i would like to know fully compatible ubuntu deritives. i am using crunchbang, and been wondering when jaunty is released if i could upgrade w/o problems, they use ubuntu resp.
[22:26] <AlanJenkins> jove: ok click System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[22:26] <panickedthumb> Maegllin, system -> Administration -> Sound, and try the different options for each section there.
[22:26] <Maegllin> pnickedthumb: you might have right ! i can listen sound when using things only from my Logitech Speakerphone
[22:26] <mrwes> Maegllin, sound preferences are all set to auto detect ?
[22:26] <panickedthumb> Maegllin, scratch that
[22:26] <guntbert> Maegllin: please be patient,  wait some time then restate your question in *one* line (so it is easier to read and understand for "us")
[22:26] <panickedthumb> Maegllin, it's system -> preferences -> sound
[22:26] <Maegllin> nope they are HDA intell Digital (ALSA)
[22:26] <AlanJenkins> jove: then after you have synaptic open click the search button and type in soundconverter
[22:27] <meoblast001> hi.. .where does OpenJDK put the development kit?
[22:27] <guntbert> Maegllin: sorry, didn't want to interrupt
[22:27] <Maegllin> i've tried to play with options in sound but nothing happened !
[22:27] <mrwes> Maegllin, try setting them to auto
[22:27] <AlanJenkins> jove: then after you have found soundconverter click on it and click mark for installation
[22:27] <Maegllin> i've tried everything guys !
[22:27] <AlanJenkins> jove: then right click on it and select everything in suggested packages
[22:27] <mib_htp3aa> so what derititive should i use i wonder.
[22:27] <panickedthumb> you have tried setting them all to auto?
[22:27] <Maegllin> no point to change smth in audio  options
[22:28] <AlanJenkins> jove: then click apply
[22:28] <meoblast001> i can't find /usr/java/j2sdk because i'm using OpenJDK
[22:28] <meoblast001> i need to find the equivilent
[22:28] <Maegllin> btw till yesterday and since one week i had Intel HDA Digital (ALSA) and the sound was working perfect
[22:29] <Maegllin> oh! and smth you might know! i've ubuntu installed from Wubi
[22:29] <oskar-> meoblast001: try "dpkg-query -L packagename"
[22:30] <alucardromero> You know, I've noticed something... everybody I know that has upgraded kernels in 8.10, they're flash sound support is knocked away.  But if you do a fresh install, re-install flash, everything is fine.
[22:30] <Maegllin> pls guys if you know smth about this prob give a hand :P
[22:30] <alucardromero> What's his issue?
[22:30] <mrwes> alucardromero, not I
[22:31] <mrwes> 2.6.27-11-generic -- flash if fine
[22:31] <alucardromero> mrwes: That's the weird thing... most people don't have it.  But I've noticed with all the people I knew all have multiple sound devices.
[22:31] <silentContender> AlanJenkins, Just tried ripping an m4a using Soundjuicer and still no luck.
[22:31] <mrwes> alucardromero, ahh...only one device here
[22:31] <Maegllin> alucardromero: i've already unistall and reinstall flash
[22:31] <akorpija> any somebody tell me why in terminal when i type in (under grub) find /boot/grub/stage1 nothing is found?
[22:31] <alucardromero> Maegllin: Yeah, same here... it never worked for me.
[22:32] <alucardromero> Oh well... just thought I'd bring that up.
[22:32] <Maegllin> nah ! yesterday everything were good
[22:32] <alucardromero> lol @ mcstinky
[22:32] <Maegllin> but after the updates smth gone bad ><
[22:32] <mrwes> Maegllin, you try booting an earlier kernel?
[22:32] <LordNLptp> in xubuntu, how do i get to any sort of network-setup dialog from the menus, or do i have to start digging in conf files?
[22:32] <mikewu> silentContender: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3960752&postcount=8
[22:32] <Maegllin> mrwes: woot?
[22:32] <Veratyr9> does 8.10 come with gspca installed by default?
[22:33] <LordNLptp> i had a catastrophic local network collapse and need to reconfigure everything as dhcp temporarily until the gateway machine can get a new NIC to replace the one that got blown up
[22:33] <jove> Alenjenkins, Thx...it works
[22:33] <mrwes> Maegllin, when you boot, hit the ESC key and choose the kernel before the one you're currently using
[22:33] <Maegllin> oh let me check then
[22:33] <Maegllin> brb
[22:34] <pieces> can anyone help me in setting up dual monitors with dual video cards?
[22:34] <silentContender> mikewu, I'm lost.  I'm trying to rip CD's and the thread deals with converting mp3 to m4a
[22:34] <madmike> Problem:  At the boot up/loadbar progress screen, the bar that bounces back and forth, only moves about an inch.  I then have to hold in space bar to keep it moving/booting.  Once it gets to the solid progress bar, I can let go of the space bar, and it will keep loading on it's own.  Any ideas?
[22:34] <monkey2> mrwes: ok, another important thing I should've mentioned earlier. I did a raid 5 setup in ubuntu (/boot partition is not on the raid array), is there anything I have to do to enable raid before when booting? In 8.04 I didn't have to do anything special, don't know if that's changed for 8.10. What are your thoughts?
[22:35] <mrwes> monkey2, I've never set up RAID
[22:35] <alucardromero> I don't know much about conversions, but... would razorlame help?
[22:35] <gcolley> What is the latest version of ubuntu?
[22:35] <MoLoot> madmike, train a hamster to jump up and down on the spacebar ;)
[22:35] <mrwes> silentContender, you can rip CD's with sound juicer
[22:35] <madmike> haha, MoLoot, I think my wife would support that one "oh it's sooo cute!!!"
[22:35] <mikewu> silentContender: were't you trying to encode mp3 to m4a to play on your ipod?
[22:36] <MoLoot> madmike, If you don't touch the space bar for say... 2 minutes, does it eventually load?
[22:36] <mrwes> silentContender, but IMHO, ABCDE is the best ripper-- but it's command line
[22:36] <rrplay> pieces, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[22:36] <LordNLptp> ... gtg. this looks hopeless
[22:36] <silentContender> mikewu, I was trying to rip CDs to mp3 or m4a for my Ipod.  The mp3 and m4a don't play on the Ipod
[22:36] <madmike> MoLoot:  Nope, I let it sit half an hour one time.  It just hangs till I hold the space bar down.  And If I let go, it stops until I hold it again
[22:36] <LordNLptp> what config files am i 'allowed' to touch which won't completely screw up the computer configuration gui stuff?
[22:36] <nickrud> LordNLptp, try asking in #xubuntu
[22:36] <LordNLptp> ok
[22:37] <MoLoot> maDmike Wow... I'm not even sure where I'd start to look to fix THAT.
[22:37] <madmike> moloot:  i know, this one has me perplexed
[22:37] <Veratyr9> why is it, in skype, my video camera shows up with a bunch of green static and lines? though it works fin in ekiga
[22:38] <manacim> Veratyr9: maybe lack of light?
[22:38] <silentContender> mrwes, Is there an alternative. I'm not that good with command line
[22:38] <ubuntu_> help!
[22:38] <Izinucs> Veratyr9: skype's video support is pretty new and sketchy on linux
[22:38] <mrwes> silentContender, sound juicer, it's the defect CD ripper for Ubuntu
[22:38] <MoLoot> madmike, have you tried the other bootloader?  (ie gdm instead of kdm)?
[22:38] <mrwes> er default
[22:38] <Jampiter> Hi
[22:38] <AlanJenkins> silentContender: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[22:38] <ubuntu_> I have killed my kubunto yesterday. Now I cannot start x session anymore
[22:38] <ubuntu_> kunbutnu
[22:38] <Maegllin> i've tried the kernel but nothing
[22:38] <madmike> moloot, how do I do that?
[22:39] <Izinucs> ubuntu_: how did you kill it
[22:39] <ubuntu_> I was updating, then it told me there was an upgrade for xine, I upgraded and was told I have to restart kde and sine then I can#t enter anyomore, only konsole
[22:39] <Jampiter> I've used xrandr to turn my screen 90 degrees for my portrait monitor. However, the login screen is still at the default angle. How can I correct this?
[22:39] <Veratyr9> Izinucs: this setup worked just fine on my last install.  I stupidly tried getting an older cam to work, and messed up the drivers for the new camera by installing qc-usb.  now it doesnt work, and i have no idea how to uninstall them
[22:39] <silentContender> AlanJenkins, I tried that link.  I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras awhile ago with no luck
[22:39] <monkey2> for 8.10 is there anything you have to boot when your / partition is on a raid 5 (logical volume), /boot is not on on the raid. Raid was done when partitioning the drives in the installer. Thanks.
[22:39] <Lounge> after today's updates, udevd is hogging the cpu%
[22:39] <MoLoot> madmike, Well... this could make it worse...  You could go into the package manager and install kdm package..
[22:40] <Izinucs> Veratyr9: I
[22:40] <monkey2> anything you have to do*
[22:40] <AlanJenkins> silentContender: can we move to the pm session you started with me i keep losing track of your replies lol
[22:40] <Maegllin> any other ideas about my prob?
[22:40] <Izinucs> Veratyr9: I'll leave that for someone else.. I wouldn't know how to do that.
[22:40] <madmike> moloot: how could it make it worse?
[22:40] <Veratyr9> Izinucs: alright
[22:40] <mrwes> silentContender, what do you mean with no luck?
[22:40] <silentContender> AlanJenkins, Ok
[22:40] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: Adept said 39 updates available. I updated. Before that i had installed transmission bittorrent client. Then Adept told me updates sucessful and that there was still an upgrade for xine.
[22:40] <Maegllin> if someone can help in pm channel would be better
[22:41] <Jampiter> I've used xrandr to turn my screen 90 degrees for my portrait monitor. However, the login screen is still at the default angle. How can I correct this?
[22:41] <MoLoot> madmike, the spacebar trick works for you now whereas this might prevent u from logging in ig something is still borked.  I'm suggesting this as an idea.... but I'm not sure how/if it would work...
[22:41] <Oniak> Hey guys, I need a little help with getting my webcam working, I have the windows drivers but cant find linux drivers, its just a generic USB webcam
[22:41] <farsight> hi all
[22:41] <silentContender> mrwes, the songs are just displayed and then skipped on my Ipod
[22:41] <MoLoot> madmike, but it's something I might try... :P
[22:41] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: I upgrade. Then it told me something like that I have to close KDE, and gave me the option to do so later. i chose to so so later. One by one the icons in K menu went disappearing. I hit shitdown or restart and since then I always end up at a konsole login
[22:41] <Izinucs> ubuntu_: try this.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. then if you notice that it pulls packages in .. afterwards type sudo reboot now and see if you get it back
[22:42] <Maegllin> is it possible to restore the system in it's starting settings?
[22:42] <madmike> moloot, so if I were to do this, I would just install the kdm package?  should I remove gdm as well?  is there anything I have to do to enable it?
[22:42] <ubuntu_> Izinucs "login:   Stopping NTP                               Startin NTP"  there i add my user name and it asks for pw, and i can log into konsole, but not kde
[22:42] <Maegllin> as the time i've putted it for 1st time in my pc
[22:43] <Izinucs> ubuntu_: yep.. that's where you can type all that I listed.
[22:43] <MoLoot> madmike, when I went to install it, it asked me which one I'd like to use, and just picked kdm... ;)
[22:43] <Oniak> can anyone help?
[22:43] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: ok, I must write that down.  I had tried startx and got the error: no xsession fiel in /home/user, Xsession file in home user, no session manager found, no window manager found, no terminal emulator found
[22:45] <adaptr> your user is trivial: remove everything from your home directory and log out
[22:45] <adaptr> the system.. not so much
[22:45] <Maegllin> and how the heck i will fix sound lol
[22:45] <ubuntu_> Izinucs and before I get to console login it says: Kinit no resume image
[22:45] <Izinucs> ubuntu_: the other way to attempt to start x is by typing .. sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[22:46] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: That's all the info i get. Hopefully it tells you something about the reason
[22:46] <BigBig5> Does any one play Urban Terror
[22:46] <manacim> nah i play tremulous
[22:46] <monkey2> mrwes: hey, the URLs you sent me helped, thanks! i had to find where /grub/stage1 was and then I setup (hdX) to setup grub on that partition. Thanks.
[22:46] <Izinucs> ubuntu_: sounds like you first need to do the updates then maybe sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.. that will reinstall the entire desktop environment again.. no need to reformat or anything.
[22:46] <Oniak> the !cam didnt seem to help
[22:46] <familiamontoya> Hey, i need help with firefox 3,0 Ubuntu 8.10
[22:46] <rrplay> I play Prey
[22:47] <AnnonyMouse3> trying to figure out network idiosyncrasy:
[22:47] <AnnonyMouse3> have 2 NIC interfaces on system: eth0 & eth1
[22:47] <AnnonyMouse3> set up bridging on eth0 & br0 (for VM) has static IP, but eth0 has DHCP IP
[22:47] <AnnonyMouse3> having trouble locating doccos on issue
[22:47] <AnnonyMouse3> could someone pls advise on URL?
[22:47] <FloodBot1> AnnonyMouse3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <Ann1> hi. i need some help
[22:47] <whacked> i have created a dual boot but windows does not appear on grub boot loader, I have 2 separate hd's one for windows the other ubuntu. when i installed ubuntu i physically unplugged the windows Hd so when installing ubuntu it would not be able to detect that HD,  i have tried to install Ubuntu with both Hd connnected but Ubuntu always wanted me to use the Hd that windows was installed on, i did try to manual install to
[22:47] <guntbert> !ask | Ann1
[22:47] <whacked> i have install kgrubeditor which appear making the process easier to understand
[22:48] <burkmat> whacked, You need to modify your menu.lst file.
[22:48] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: that's good news, if I don't loose any data then
[22:48] <guntbert> AnnonyMouse3: maybe ##networking is better for your problem
[22:48] <Ann1> its already on my pc, but when I boot up in xubuntu, an installer thing pops up but i have problems installing it. the partitioner keeps crashing
[22:48] <whacked> yes i have kgrubeditor install
[22:48] <mrwes> monkey2, sure -- glad you got it sorted out
[22:48] <whacked> i like it it make things more visual with suggestions
[22:48] <AnnonyMouse3> thnx guntbert
[22:48] <ubuntu_> Izinucs will I have to backup anything?  a had a hell lota notes in tomboy. Will they still be there or should i back em up?
[22:49] <BCM43> Ann1: try the alternate installer
[22:49] <whacked> i know my windows HD is Hd0.0
[22:49] <Ann1> whats the alternate installer?
[22:49] <farsight> anyone know whether there is an eee pc IRC?
[22:49] <_VIM_> ubuntu_: that's why I use Google Notebook :P
[22:49] <zenlinuxNH> Is there an official irc channel for the global bug jam?
[22:49] <familiamontoya> There is a probem. Firefox don't open well almost all the wep pages. It seems like is loading all the time, the back button doesn work. I update all it to 3.0 version. Since i have the problem
[22:49] <mrwes> monkey2, sure -- glad you got it sorted out
[22:50] <ubuntu_> _VIM_ why?
[22:50] <Ann1> whats the alternate installer for xubuntu?
[22:50] <BCM43> !install | Ann1
[22:50] <mrwes> familiamontoya, you have to set the backspace key for the back button in about:config
[22:50] <_VIM_> ubuntu_: if ubuntu crashes, i dont loose my notes :)
[22:50] <BCM43> Ann1: ok, that did not help, sorry, one sec
[22:50] <_VIM_> lose*
[22:50] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: ok, forat update, upgrade and dist upgrade, then see if it works, if not install kubuntu-desktop. Right?
[22:50] <ubuntu_> first*
[22:51] <Izinucs> ubuntu_: yes..
[22:51] <BCM43> Ann1: third part: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[22:51] <Oniak> I cannot get my webcam working, I tried the webcam page on ubuntu, its a generic usb webcamera
[22:51] <madmike> moloot: when did it ask you what to use?  when you went to install linux?
[22:51] <whacked> thanks burk you think i dont realize this
[22:51] <BCM43> Oniak: is it plugged in?
[22:51] <whacked> if i make one typo or wrong concept everyhting can get screwed
[22:51] <Oniak> yes
[22:51] <Ann1> thanks
[22:51] <Oniak> its plugged in...
[22:51] <farsight> is it mounter?
[22:51] <farsight> mounted*
[22:51] <whacked> so i am not really up for guessing what to do
[22:51] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: sorry for the many misspellings, am not good in fast typing.   What about backups. Do I need to beackup any folder or will my home and even kde config remain untouched?
[22:52] <whacked> has anyone use kgrubeditor
[22:52] <burkmat> !who | whacked
[22:52] <farsight> oniak: is the usb webcam mounted?  Do lsusb, which should tell everything that is plugged in. That is why I asked you to plug it in.
[22:52] <Izinucs> ubuntu_: your home will remain as well as your user name and password
[22:53] <whacked> i just want someone that really good at understand Grub and stop sending me too sight with how to
[22:53] <farsight> Oniak: does it appear as a device in the device manager?
[22:53] <whacked> i can provide info needed
[22:53] <ubuntu_> Izinucs: Thank you. Will try that now.
[22:53] <BCM43> whacked: what is the problem?
[22:53] <ubuntu_> Izinucs Thanks for oyur help: )  cya
[22:53] <familiamontoya> No, i'm trying to say that i can't go back. For example: search in google ''aaaa''. Then, appears aaa in a wikipedia link. But, i cant go back again to google.com       -
[22:53] <Oniak> in the terminal for lsusb it says Microdia PC camera
[22:54] <BCM43> familiamontoya: firefox?
[22:54] <burkmat> whacked, You're not going to screw everything up by making a typo, at worst you're going to have to edit it and fix the problem... Nobody is going to be able to give you a 100% definitive answer.
[22:54] <familiamontoya> yeah
[22:54] <Oniak> In brackets SN9C201
[22:54] <whacked> windows does not appear on grub list, because i removed the HD from PC so Ubuntu would only see the HD i wanted to install on
[22:54] <whacked> so now i need to add windows HD to grub list
[22:54] <familiamontoya> Yeah, i use firefox
[22:54] <whacked> but i really dont want to make mistakes doing so
[22:54] <whacked> i am using Kgrubeditor
[22:55] <whacked> which for me make things appear easier to do
[22:55] <whacked> it provide suggestions an labels assigned to discs
[22:56] <Oniak> lsusb
[22:56] <BCM43> Oniak: ok, can you put the complete result of lsusb in pastebin?
[22:56] <Oniak> Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0c45:627b Microdia PC Camera (SN9C201)
[22:56] <Oniak> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[22:56] <Oniak> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[22:56] <Oniak> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[22:56] <Oniak> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[22:56] <FloodBot1> Oniak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:56] <Oniak> Sorry
[22:56] <Oniak> forgot about pastebin
[22:56] <whacked> ubuntu is on dev/sdb1 and windows is dev/sda1
[22:57] <familiamontoya> ere is a probem. Firefox don't open well almost all the wep pages. It seems like is loading all the time, the back button doesn work. I update all it to 3.0 version. Since i have the problem                             i'm trying to say that i can't go back. For example: search in google ''aaaa''. Then, appears aaa in a wikipedia link. But, i cant go back again to google.com                    Yeah, i use firefox
[22:58] <porter1> Hey, can someone else here try out the Kohana PHP framework website? It causes Firefox here to run incredibly slow for no apparent reason...
[22:58] <whacked> and root for dev/sda1 is (hd0,0)
[22:58] <panickedthumb> familiamontoya, do you actually have the back button?
[22:58] <familiamontoya> Yeah
[22:58] <BCM43> Oniak: try this, tell me if you need help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982471
[22:58] <familiamontoya> I have it.
[22:58] <panickedthumb> You might want to try wiping your firefox profile
[22:58] <familiamontoya> Thanks, i'll
[22:58] <Oniak> Thanks for the link I have to go for a small bit, if it does not work I'll come back
[22:59] <porter1> And I'm running 64bit Intrepid and the website slows everything down
[22:59] <BCM43> familiamontoya: I had this problem once, I forgot how I fixed it, I may have simply restarted either firefox or ubuntu
[22:59] <familiamontoya> BCM43, i have restarted firefox and ubuntu like 10 times.
[23:00] <BCM43> familiamontoya: oh. have you tried the firefox irc? they might know more
[23:00] <whacked> for kernel should i chose root device,root uuid,read only,queit or splash
[23:00] <familiamontoya> No, i don't know the pege. Do you?
[23:01] <BadOmen> familiamontoya: what is your problem I just loged on =)
[23:01] <goku> hi
[23:01] <BCM43> familiamontoya: #firefox
[23:01] <familiamontoya> Thanks
[23:01] <whacked> i need someone that's really good with grub to help out
[23:01] <alucardromero> Where do fonts go in GNOME?
[23:01] <whacked> and not someone that send my to a URL and say try that
[23:02] <alucardromero> Looking to import some fonts from Windows.
[23:02] <_VIM_>  /home/alucardromero/.fonts
[23:02] <Frozen[Alt]> Please help me in REPOSITORY ISSUE
[23:02] <_VIM_> create it
[23:02] <guntbert> !attitude | whacked
[23:02] <alucardromero> Thank you... even though they're under my home directory, will they be available system wide?
[23:02] <Frozen[Alt]> I cant find a list for feisty for the sources.list
[23:02] <Frozen[Alt]> sources.list is empty..
[23:02] <hmw> whacked - let us know, what you are looking for
[23:02] <Frozen[Alt]> I can do noothing
[23:03] <guntbert> Frozen[Alt]: feisty has reached "eol"
[23:03] <guntbert> !eol | Frozen[Alt]
[23:03] <_VIM_> alucardromero: I think for that you have to create .fonts in /usr/share something or another
[23:03] <redvamp128> whacked:  here is 2 sites- before you go mental-- the first is the official grub manual- GNU GRUB Manual 0.97 <http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/>  the next link I think does a fair job of explaining how grub works and with some examples- grub page <http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm>
[23:03] <alucardromero> Oh okay.
[23:03] <alucardromero> Thank you again.
[23:03] <cphillips> i am trying to mount an iso, but it asks me to specify the filesystem type even when i do specify it
[23:04] <BCM43> redvamp128: I don't think he wants sites
[23:04] <_VIM_> alucardromero: np
[23:04] <guntbert> !pm | Frozen[Alt]
[23:04] <cphillips> .join #ubuntu-us-oh
[23:04] <AlanJenkins> cphillips: what command are you using?
[23:04] <ironrose> Does anyone know how I can get rid of the "
[23:04] <ironrose> "Reading files needed to boot"
[23:04] <AlanJenkins> cphillips: i typically use sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./isfile.iso ./mountdir
[23:04] <_VIM_> oh alucardromero there's a command you have to run after adding fonts, maybe someon in here can remember it better than I can :)
[23:04] <BCM43> ironrose: where?
[23:05] <Frozen[Alt]> guntbert, can I PM you?
[23:05] <ironrose> BCM43: when loading Ubuntu
[23:05] <whacked> i looking to properly add My windows to the Grub list ? it listed as dev/sda1 (hd0,0) and Ubuntu is dev/sdb/ (hd0,1)
[23:05] <alucardromero> Hmm... I'll look it up on the web.
[23:05] <_VIM_> ok
[23:05] <BCM43> ironrose: why do you want to get rid of it?
[23:05] <oCean_> Frozen[Alt]: Upgrading from 7.04 is a long way. See next link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:05] <guntbert> Frozen[Alt]: I have no solution for you, read the links ubottu gave you
[23:05] <_VIM_> alucardromero:
[23:05] <whacked> and i am trying to edit my grub using a Gui app called Kgrubeditor
[23:05] <cphillips> AlanJenkins, sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /iso /media/iso
[23:05] <redvamp128> whacked:  most of the windows needs the -- rootnoverify (instead of the root)
[23:05] <BCM43> whacked: why a gui?
[23:06] <_VIM_> i have it in my notes...  lol 'fc-cache'
[23:06] <irclestu> Trying to use ubuntu for 1st time Can anyone suggest any reason why I can't seem to get my graphics working properly (I cant get any 3d type things - and cant turn on visual effect for desktop) - do I need a driver? and if so, how can I get one?
[23:06] <ironrose> BCM43: i messed with my partitions, and before that, it didn't come up. I'm assuming I mounted something wrong?
[23:06] <hmw> whacked: try hd(1,x) instead of (hd0,x) or vice versa. somtimes the numbering of the drives change. this is just a guess.
[23:06] <whacked> just appears easier for me to understand
[23:06] <BCM43> ironrose: does it boot?
[23:06] <oCean_> Frozen[Alt]: there is a sources.list on next link if you really want to upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[23:06] <cphillips> AlanJenkins, and it still asks me to specify the filesystem type
[23:06] <freegoo> hey guys, if i use dd command to copy a disk say "/media/ipod" would it back up the "Partition INFO" as well
[23:06] <ironrose> BCM43: yes, it's just an annoyance cuz it takes longer
[23:06] <AlanJenkins> cphillips: mmm thats odd have you tried without specifying the type?
[23:07] <cphillips> AlanJenkins, yes, that is how i originally tried it
[23:07] <whacked> I was arleady able edit duplicate items on grub with Kgrubeditor , so i feel some success so far
[23:07] <AlanJenkins> cphillips: can you open the iso in fileroller to make sure it isnt corrupted?
[23:07] <hmw> cphillips AlanJenkins - maybe the iso is broken? you could try mounting another for checking, and maybe you can use the iso with some cd burn program for a test, too.
[23:07] <whacked> i not guessing with Grub list
[23:07] <crueltoss> ..
[23:07] <Goku> aa
[23:07] <AlanJenkins> hmw: yeh that was my next idea =)
[23:08] <hmw> whacked - my proposal was based on a guess. you could use the UUID to be sure to reach the correct drive
[23:08] <whacked> i edit grub the other night and then when i went into bios to chose HD it boot ubuntu on which every HD i chose
[23:08] <_VIM_> alucardromero: fc-cache
[23:08] <BCM43> ironrose: perhaps this can help? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/205990
[23:09] <whacked> Kgrubeditor helps me as i go along in process
[23:09] <irclestu> hey guys - anyone able to help? Trying to use ubuntu for 1st time Can anyone suggest any reason why I can't seem to get my graphics working properly (I cant get any 3d type things - and cant turn on visual effect for desktop) - do I need a driver? and if so, how can I get one?
[23:09] <whacked> but i am still not sure of choices
[23:09] <trendy> I need some help with a Wubi install, and I'm not sure whether the problem is Wubi or Ubuntu.  Anyone like to help?
[23:09] <raven_> is there any diff between ubuntu server edition and ubuntu other than the lack of interface?
[23:09] <manacim> irclestu: go to system > admin > hardware drivers
[23:09] <BadOmen> irclestu: check the menu Administration -> Hardweredriver (sorry for my bad english)
[23:09] <raven_> i'd just like to ge4t a console install of ubuntu
[23:09] <raven_> was considering JeOS
[23:09] <BCM43> !prefix whacked
[23:10] <BCM43> !prefix | whacked
[23:10] <hmw> irclestu manacim BadOmen - i once had to wget fglrx manually for my ATI card
[23:10] <whacked> Like for instance grub was loading server kernel and with kgrubeditor i was easily able to change default boot order
[23:10] <goku>
[23:10] <manacim> hmw what kind of ati card do you have
[23:10] <irclestu> manacim, thx for the response - I tried, but its empty - says no propriety drivers in use on this system
[23:11] <hmw> manacim - radeon 9600
[23:11] <raven_> is there any diff between ubuntu server edition and ubuntu other than the lack of interface?
[23:11] <raven_> i'd just like to ge4t a console install of ubuntu
[23:11] <raven_> was considering JeOS
[23:11] <manacim> irclestu:  what kind of card do you have
[23:11] <raven_> ?
[23:11] <FloodBot1> raven_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:11] <manacim> hmw: do you play games with it via wine?
[23:11] <_VIM_> raven_: the kernel is different
[23:11] <whacked> but know i would like to add windows to list dev/sda1, and ubuntu is dev/sdb1
[23:11] <hmw> manacim no, at least no 3d stuff
[23:11] <cphillips> AlanJenkins, it wont open in a burner, so i guess its bad
[23:11] <BCM43> raven_: with the alt install cd you whould be able to install just the base system. Do you want x11?
[23:11] <manacim> hmw: i am trying to figure out why the game counter strike keeps freezing my system
[23:11] <alucardromero> _VIM_: No command necessary... it recognized them right away. ;)
[23:12] <raven_> i'd like to probably install it at some point, BCM43
[23:12] <_VIM_> alucardromero: sweet :)
[23:12] <manacim> irclestu: i think you might have to install your drivers the "ubuntu way"
[23:12] <irclestu> mamcim, its integrated on the  mb - the mb is Asus P5S800vm/s
[23:12] <AlanJenkins> cphillips: what was it a ubuntu iso or something?
[23:12] <manacim> are you using a laptop?
[23:12] <hmw> manacim - i dont knwo much about such things. maybe your compiz is active? i know of some problems with 3d apps, when compiz is running
[23:12] <BCM43> raven_: I would use the alt cd to install the base system and install the rest that you need after
[23:12] <whacked> what should Kernel device be for windows
[23:12] <cphillips> AlanJenkins, it was for a game
[23:12] <manacim> hmw: nah i turned that off before i do any gaming
[23:12] <AlanJenkins> cphillips: if so if you can find a torrent of the same file and tell it to download to that file it will repair it for you
[23:12] <irclestu> no - its a desktop pc. Packard bell jobby
[23:13] <whacked> root(device),Root uuid,
[23:13] <rrplay> whacked,  menus1st default info here  in pastebin substitue your windows info and verify you ubuntu location
[23:13] <hmw> whacked - find out the UUID of the windows partition and use that instead of the /dev/sdxx
[23:13] <ironrose> BCM43: No, thats not it
[23:13] <AlanJenkins> cphillips: damn =/
[23:13] <Shininggg> whacked: i suggest burning a copy of supergrub disk a boot with that then you can change which os boot by default
[23:13] <BCM43> ironrose: what is different?
[23:13] <ubuntu__> Izinucs> am back. didnt work   etc/init.d/kdm start  said there is no stat /etc/init.d/kdm     then it said already running.   /     update, upgrade and distupgrad  and restart did not change anzthing and nothing was reinstalled
[23:14] <manacim> irclestu: have you tried www.ubuntuforums.org and try searching for an answer there?
[23:14] <whacked> ok how do i find menu list
[23:14] <rrplay> whacked,  paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/120772/
[23:14] <whacked> I will paste ok
[23:14] <genii> whacked: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:14] <ironrose> BCM43: Splash screen is fine. it's just before it, it loads this long list of stuff
[23:14] <BCM43> ironrose: and it takes longer to boot?
[23:15] <ironrose> yup
[23:15] <hmw> ironrose - did you remove the "quiet" option from the entry in your menu.lst?
[23:15] <hmw> ironrose - oh... forget what i said
[23:15] <whacked> is it sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[23:15] <ubuntu__> Izinucs sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   show a long list of files sayin its recommended to install the menationed packed but that its not done.   and final line>   E  brolen packages
[23:15] <whacked> i tried Sudo and just /boot/grub/menu.lst within terminal to no success
[23:15] <raven_> is there any compatibility concern with 64-bit ubuntu? will it work with 32-bit linux software just fine? wine? etc?
[23:16] <trendy> What is the best way to submit a bug to Ubuntu with an internet connected install?
[23:16] <BCM43> ironrose: does hibernate work?
[23:16] <rrplay> whacked, you need to compare yours and the sample in pastebin
[23:16] <ironrose> BCM43: It has something to do with an important partition i deleted. like an ext3 maybe? i dunno. It was there by default
[23:16] <whacked> yes but how to get list
[23:16] <BCM43> trendy: what is the bug
[23:16] <irclestu> i did try, but couldnt find anything that looked like what i need. will try again. Thanks for your help
[23:16] <guntbert> !bug | trendy
[23:16] <whacked> i dont know what to type at terminal
[23:16] <trendy> BCM43: several
[23:16] <ubuntu__> what can I do_
[23:16] <BadOmen>  whacked gksudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:16] <ubuntu__> ?
[23:16] <BCM43> ironrose: try this:
[23:17] <BCM43> ironrose: http://ggts.net/2008/05/13/reading-files-needed-to-boot/
[23:17] <hmw> whacked - menu.lst is not a program, so sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst wont work. you want to open it in an editor
[23:17] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone have any ideas?  alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory
[23:17] <guntbert> BadOmen: thats gksu :)
[23:17] <VicTheHunter> Hello, please help? When I watch videos with Cheese, or totem-plugin-viewer 2.22.1, the images come out looking interleaved, and the bottom half is columns of solid colors.  How can I fix this?
[23:17] <BCM43> trendy: are you sure that they are bugs?
[23:17] <ironrose> BCM43: ding ding. I'll look at this. Thank you
[23:17] <BadOmen> guntbert: :)
[23:17] <BCM43> ironrose: not problem
[23:17] <trendy> BCM43: first bug--Update Manager doesn't display correctly.  Am seeing something similar in Winecfg.
[23:18] <whacked> when i type gksudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst in terminal is just opens a new window with a blank page
[23:18] <BCM43> trendy: is this a fresh install?
[23:18] <VicTheHunter> "lspci | grep VGA" gives me
[23:18] <VicTheHunter> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 03)
[23:18] <ubuntu__> Can anybody help me?  I cannot login into kubuntu anymore. only konsole
[23:18] <trendy> BCM43: Pretty much.  I'm under Wubi, though.
[23:18] <redvamp128> whacked:  that is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:18] <BadOmen>  whacked gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:19] <whacked> under terminal right type gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:19] <Sergeant_Pony> any ideas on how to fix this?   alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory
[23:19] <whacked> ok it worked this time sorry guys
[23:20] <BCM43> !bugs | trendy
[23:20] <trendy> BCM43: What I'm really looking to avoid is reporting a known bug.  If I can find a known bug, I'll just piggy back on that report.  Otherwise, I can file a new one.
[23:20] <VicTheHunter> When I watch videos on my webcam, they come out green and ghosted.  Do I need a certain driver, or can a setting in Linux fix this?
[23:21] <BCM43> trendy: search with google, but you need to be more specific than that
[23:21] <raven_> 32 vs 64 bit ubuntu: if my comp (c2d) supports 64-bit, any reason not to use it?
[23:21] <BCM43> raven_: not as stable
[23:21] <whacked> sorry for be sarcastic guys
[23:21] <trendy> BCM43: Ok, if it's not an issue you are familiar with here, then it's probably worth reporting.
[23:21] <VicTheHunter> How can I disable the bold black system messages from appearing in this IRC?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> raven_: there might be a few issues, with say Java Firefox Flash plugin, but otherwise should be alright
[23:21] <whacked> i just pasted info
[23:22] <sebsebseb> raven_: 64bit is better than 32bit
[23:22] <raven_> can you compile ordinary linux apps from source on 64-bit linux?
[23:22] <BCM43> trendy: true, if it is a double, then they will tell you, nothing lost
[23:22] <whacked> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120779/
[23:22] <hmw> VicTheHunter - v4l2ucp lets you adjust webcam settings, but i guess, it is not the solution, you would need.
[23:22] <sebsebseb> raven_: sure, and you can even run 32bit programs on it
[23:22] <raven_> sebsebseb, ah then there's no good reason for me not to use it... wine works too i assume?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> raven_: yes
[23:22] <raven_> cool
[23:22] <raven_> can always reinstall if it doesnt work out
[23:22] <raven_> thanks