[00:00] <ObrienDave> !patience | yofun
[00:01]  * yofun waits
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> yofun: is that your own site as it appears to be misconfigured. I clicked on the link and downloaded the php source
[00:02] <yofun> nope its a file
[00:02] <yofun> a plugin
[00:02] <yofun> php plugij
[00:02] <yofun> plugin
[00:03] <yofun> however i cant wget it, it would just dowmload the redirect script
[00:03] <yofun> Not a direct link...
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> ahh kk. in that case the site is sending a 403 for wget. you may need to force a referrer or set a browser user-agent
[00:05] <Mongo44> hitsujiTMO: 403 or 404?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> 403
[00:07] <demophobia> ObrienDave: Well, my other concern was environmental hazards, like lightbulbs with mercury or some batteries with ... mercury?
[00:08] <demophobia> http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/marketing/easy-on-the-planet/recycling-and-eco-services.html Should I bring it there? ...
[00:08] <demophobia> looks like they'll take it, if they take 'all in one computers' ...
[00:09] <ObrienDave> yes, i would think that would be one of many good options
[00:11] <demophobia> I'm not sure how I would install a new hard drive, though: It looks like I'd need a screwdriver about 1.5 inches big ...
[00:12] <pgar23> lol...yup!
[00:13] <demophobia> This is an ATA drive -- can I replace it with a SATA drive?  :D Thanks, ObrienDave ... Perhaps I should read chapter 9 of http://www.amazon.com/Fix-Your-Own-Corey-Sandler/dp/0764534688 ...
[00:17] <cauthon> I have an older machine which can't run the Ubuntu GUI without NVidia drivers. Artifacts all over the screen, can't see anything. Where can I get a LiveCD with the NVidia drivers included?
[00:18] <TJ-> cauthon: Is the system already installed?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> cauthon: what gpu is it exactly?
[00:18] <cauthon> TJ-: No, I didn't install it or use the text install as I need to back up the hard drive to an ISO on my NAS
[00:18] <cauthon> hitsujiTMO: Let me check
[00:19] <TJ-> cauthon: If so, you can interrupt the boot-loader - GRUB - by holding down the Shift key as the system starts, and at the boot menu, choosing from Advanced, and Recovery option. That'll start in non-gui mode, where you can enable networking and then install the nvidia drivers from the terminal. Then, you can reboot to use the nvidia driver and get the GUI.
[00:19] <cauthon> hitsujiTMO: GeForce 6150SE onboard, on an AMD motherboard. It only has a VGA port on the back, so I'm guessing it's not the world's best GPU
[00:20] <cauthon> TJ-: Unfortunately not - if I hold shift while the LiveCD boots, can I install the system to a USB thumbdrive?
[00:22] <demophobia> cauthon: I've been told there are other options, perhaps lubuntu, for older computers. lubuntu might be worth looking into.
[00:23] <cauthon> demophobia: I'll look into that, thanks
[00:23] <cauthon> Is there an easy way to get a simple text install going from a normal Ubuntu Desktop LiveCD?
[00:24] <TJ-> cauthon: unfortunately no
[00:24] <TJ-> cauthon: You'll need the alternate ISO installer
[00:25] <ObrienDave> no more alternates. use mini ISO
[00:25] <ObrienDave> !mini
[00:25] <cauthon> Cool, thanks.
[00:26] <TJ-> ObrienDave: really? how are we supposed to install on non-networked systems now?
[00:28] <ObrienDave> ummm, carefully? ;)
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> 12.04 still has an alternative cd
[00:33] <cauthon> Trying the server install now, should get me where I need to be
[00:34] <cauthon> (Already had the server install cd lying around, otherwise would have gone with mini)
[00:37] <luc__> is it possible to run lineage2 on ubuntu???
[00:37] <luc__> i am using 12.04 LTS
[00:37] <robotti^> it depends
[00:38] <robotti^> it is for windows
[00:38] <robotti^> you can always try wine
[00:38] <Xgates> hi everyone
[00:38] <robotti^> hello Xgates
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> luc__: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2273
[00:39] <Xgates> anyone know how to make all windows appear center? In the CompizConfig Settings Manager I figured out how to do it for one window individually at a time, but a bit of a pain to have to do this for each and every window...
 it doesnt run on ubuntu 12.04
[00:42] <Xgates> ahh I might have it figured out; CompizConfig Settings Manager - Window Management -->Place windows - Change Placement Mode from Smart to centered.
[00:42]  * Xgates trys
 the ratings is garbage
 i play Goddess of Destruction
[00:43] <Xgates> yeah that did it... WoOT! :)
[00:45] <Xgates> ok my biggest problem to date, and I've not seen any resolutions for this, I have a Asus G75VW and the F2 for Wifi to turn the adpater on and off, plus the F5 & F6 for screen brightness not working, anyone have any clues on this?
[00:46] <Xgates> Also acpi_listen and xev don't show any output when pressing the keys...
[00:46] <luc__> i tryed installed wine and winetricks
[00:46] <luc__> installing
[00:46] <luc__> *
[00:48] <damarusama> I use gmd and my user autologin into x, how can I remove the autologin to x ?
[00:50] <david38400> Can anyone please tell me if I can copy a video_TS file and convert to DVD? Thanks
[00:50] <damarusama> david38400: you can use ffmepg for that
[00:51] <ObrienDave> david38400, there are many utilities in the repos for doing just that
[00:51] <k1l_> damarusama: see /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[00:51] <TJ-> Xgates: Have you tried all the recommendations at http://www.linlap.com/asus_g75vw ?
[00:51] <rob_here> I'm currently reading O'Reilly Learning Python, does anyone have a better suggestion?
[00:52] <damarusama> k1l_: thanks getting there
[00:53] <k1l_> !ot | rob_here
[00:53] <damarusama> weird there is no custom.conf
[00:53] <rob_here> woops, sorry
[00:53] <Bin64> can you help me for create one fake server ssh ?
[00:53] <topper4125> rob_here, some people find it rather silly, but if you are more of a visual learner than a 'read and do' learner... (I'm more of a visual learner myself) I find tutorial vids on youtube to be quite helpful.
[00:54] <damarusama> how can I make sure I am using gdm ?  I am on a arm based 12 version
[00:54] <Xgates> TJ-: oh yeah I forgot to give nvidiabl a go, the only reason I didn't do that is because I'm pretty sure it's not Nvidia related but an ACPI issue, I believe Asus uses a driver in Windows to control them...
[00:54] <k1l_> damarusama: see with ps ax |grep dm       what is running
[00:54] <david38400> damarusama, Thanks will try
[00:55] <rob_here> topper4125, hey thanks, I'll check it out, and then get in the right IRC for questions later ^^
[00:55] <Xgates> as far as all the settings for grub and xorg.conf I've tried just about everyone I've seen too...
[00:55] <TJ-> Xgates: some of the comments recommend enabling the Compatiblity Support Module in BIOS, and say that F5/F6 start working after a suspend, and/or after creating an /etc/X11/xorg.conf that contains  "Option "registryDwords"	"EnableBrightnessControl=1"  "
[00:55] <damarusama> yep gdm binary
[00:55] <david38400> ObrienDave, Which ones for example.
[00:55] <Bin64> can you help me for create one fake server ssh ? please
[00:55] <topper4125> rob_here, yup.. that's what I do! Good luck!
[00:57] <qin> Bin64: fake ssh, you mean listining on <IP_ADDRESS>?
[00:57] <Xgates> No Compatibility Support Module, Suspend doesn't do anything, also "Option "registryDwords" doesn't work too
[00:57] <damarusama> k1l_: if I don't have the custom.conf where could I disable x to load when my user login?
[00:57] <ObrienDave> david38400, not in Ubuntu at the moment
[00:57] <Xgates> TJ-: as I mentioned I've already tried just about everything out there, I've been reading and digging into this for a few weeks now...
[00:57] <david38400> ObrienDave, Ah ok. tried with ffmpeg but wouldnt work
[00:58] <TJ-> Xgates: So the suspend trick doesn't enable those hot keys?
[00:58] <david38400> will it work in a later version of UBuntu
[00:58] <Xgates> no
[00:58] <TJ-> If those other owner's suggestions don't help I doubt you're going to find anything better
[00:58] <k1l_> damarusama: i dont get what you want. if you dont want login into x use:
[00:58] <k1l_> !text | damarusama
[00:58] <Bin64> qin: I would like to create a ssh server that can afford to connect with logins that do not exist on my machine
[00:58] <Xgates> I made a bug report, hoping Canocial will figure out something, which I believe is going to take some type of driver...
[00:59] <damarusama> k1l_: thanks will try
[00:59] <qin> Bin64: allowed users in sshd_config
[01:00] <TJ-> Xgates: The comment by "Roberto, 2012/10/25 08:11" is pretty specific in the details of what definitely works on Ubuntu
[01:01] <Bin64> qin: No, I want that "toto" can connect via ssh on my machine without the "toto" account exists on my machine
[01:01] <qin> Bin64: man sshd_config; not sure how it makes server fake, better yet disable password login after issuing keys
[01:01] <Bin64> qin: this is not what I want :)
[01:02] <qin> Bin64: I do not think it is this what you really want. Do not know how to do it.
[01:03] <TJ-> Bin64: If "toto" doesn't exist as a user on the system, then it follows it is impossible for such a user to connect. Do you actually mean "user 'toto' on PC1 can connect to an account on PC2 that does not have a user called 'toto' " ?
[01:03] <Xgates> TJ-: but should also work with Ubuntu 12.04 and Nvidia 304.48 LOL, my luck I'm using 12.04 and 304.88, so I'm not really sure, I've also tried this out on livecds for Kubuntu and Mint with no luck either...
[01:03] <rob_here> topper4125, I'm actually just gonna dive into the MIT open course. Thanks for helping me remember that
[01:04] <qin> Bin64: besides it looks like you want to have undetectable access to remote system, which putting some doubts into my thinking.
[01:04] <TJ-> Xgates: And you have CSM enabled in the BIOS? Any other settings in BIOS look like they might affect these functions? Did you also add "acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor" to GRUB's linux kernel command line options?
[01:04] <Xgates> TJ-: the only reason I went with the LTS is I wanted to stay away from the Unity shopping lens spyware stuff, but I did a bit that I believe all you have to do is just uninstall the Unity Shopping Lens
[01:05] <bekks> Xgates: Correct. Uninstalling it is all you have to do.
[01:05] <Bin64> TJ-: I want to simulate a unix account accessible by ssh.
[01:05] <Xgates> TJ-: oh I also tried 13.10 livecd too and no good, maybe if I installed 13.10 and then the nvidia drivers I might have luck...
[01:06] <Bin64> as we can create a small web server using sockets;)
[01:06] <Xgates> TJ-: I don't have any CSM option in the bios, I tried also acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor
[01:06] <Xgates> bekks: so it's called unity shopping lens?
[01:07] <k1l_> Xgates: which ubuntu release are you talking about?
[01:07] <SaberX01> Simulate a Unix account .. I really do not see the advantage of that. Create the user account, and putting them in a JailShell or restricting the account to specific group usage would be much better approach.
[01:08] <Xgates> TJ-: oh wait unless I need to enable UEFI to see this CSM, I'll have to go back and check...
[01:08] <Xgates> k1l_: I'm using 12.04
[01:09] <Xgates> BUT if I enable UEFI I don't think this is going to boot any more because I installed Ubuntu MBR
[01:09] <k1l_> Xgates: the unity-lens-shopping only exists for quantal and raring
[01:09] <Xgates> I'm sure it won't boot then...
[01:09] <Xgates> I forgot what's 13.10 called?
[01:09] <Bin64> SaberX01: I find a good keyword: honeypot;)
[01:09] <Bin64> that's what I was looking for
[01:09] <k1l_> Xgates: saucy
[01:09] <Xgates> k1l_: yes I know it's not in 12.04 I was talking about the newer versions...
[01:10] <Xgates> oh it's not in saucy anymore?
[01:10] <k1l_> Xgates: but they changed the lens and scopes in 13.10
[01:10] <qin> Bin64: nc is good enough to make honeypot
[01:10] <k1l_> Xgates: just disable the overall online search in privacy settings or disable the specific scope you dont want.
[01:10] <Xgates> k1l_: so is there still some of this issue still in 13.10, I believe it was related to Amazon when you do searches they keep them
[01:11] <k1l_> Xgates: its no magic needed.
[01:11] <Bin64> qin: not for ssh (but if you know how, I want to know :))
[01:11] <k1l_> Xgates: dont follow the shitstorms blindly
[01:11] <Xgates> is it the same like 12.04 in Privacy just turn the 'Record Activity' off?
[01:12] <k1l_> Xgates: it was all the time.
[01:13] <Xgates> ok you said  online search which I didn't seem mention of that by name...
[01:13] <Xgates> seem/see...
[01:14] <Xgates> let me go check out UEFI and this CMS mode if this helps
[01:14] <Xgates> thanks TJ-, bekks and k1l_
[01:14] <Xgates> brb
[01:14] <Bo__> Hello, everytime I try to install Ubuntu via thumb drive to my laptop, I get an "unrecoverable error happened during installation" and I can only run on live mode
[01:15] <ObrienDave> Bo__, check MD5 sum. sounds like a bad D/L
[01:15] <qin> Bin64: nc -l 22; but if you want play with ssh intrusion, you can hoop uk scripts via iptables, very unsafe even if you thik you know what are you doing
[01:16] <Bin64> qin: No, I want to manage the complete ssh connection
[01:16] <Bo__> When I'm running live mode, I can't seem to be able to access the hard drive either. I'm pretty sure the DL is fine because I've used  the same thumb drive to install ubuntu on a different laptop before
[01:16] <qin> Bin64: than create user
[01:17] <qin> Bo__: can you have a look into smart data in Disk utility
[01:17] <Bin64> so easy, i prefer create fake server for high security
[01:18] <SaberX01> Bin64, Can you provide us with a link to what your calling a Fake Server .. I'm baffled by that term.
[01:18] <qin> Bin64: where did you got idea of fake ssh server? you mean virtual
[01:19] <loki_> how i can swtich off acceleration in flash?
[01:19] <loki_> i use chromium
[01:19] <loki_> and when i try to switch it off  i see window, but can't uncheck it)
[01:19] <qin> Bin64: for better security use fail2ban or knockd
[01:20] <Bin64> SaberX01: you think you connect to a real ssh server, but behind it there is a simple script to log logins, password, and commands.
[01:21] <qin> Bin64: man netcat
[01:21] <Bin64> qin: yes, of course, but then, the principle is to make a honeypot
[01:21] <Bin64> qin: netcat does not simulate a ssh service
[01:21] <Bin64> exemple for http, ftp, smtp : http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?272430-3-Honeypots-in-Python
[01:22] <Bin64> I try to do the same but ssh;)
[01:24] <SaberX01> Bin64, well I dont think that's possible via SSh without writing you own interface .. but you could create a chroot and install a bootstrap system in it. Manage access to it via SSH and a Specific user account on the primary server.
[01:25] <qin> Bin64: I think you have some reading adventure in front of yourself, perhaps you want to know that coming up with sensible solution may be quite profitable
[01:25] <Bin64> SaberX01: for obvious safety issue, I would prefer to avoid this solution and remain only in a simulated account :)
[01:25] <demophob_> "500107862016 bytes (500 GB) copied, 5894.87 s, 84.8 MB/s" using bs=16M -- so, 98 minutes ...
[01:26] <qin> Bin64: it is called jailshell
[01:27] <SaberX01> Bin64, then build a VPS, and create a demo server, I dont know of a solution to fit what your asking for given the constraints your listed, not to mention, I have no idea how the relates to Ubuntu support.
[01:28] <qin> SaberX01: haha
[01:29] <Bin64> I will continue my research, thank you for your time qin && SaberX01
[01:29] <damarusama> is there a simple way to remove any wm and start clean? I am to go with openbox or i3 and now I have xfce and gdm
[01:29] <gordonjcp> damarusama: install from the mini iso
[01:30] <damarusama> it's already install - it would be the easiest but I am on a weird arm machine
[01:30] <qin> damarusama: i thought you can gnome/kde openbox
[01:31] <damarusama> I guess I could, but I don't need any gnome or kde at this point
[01:32] <damarusama> is there some sort of gdm dpkp reconfigure
[01:33] <k1l_> just remove the xfce/xubuntu package and install the openbox or i3 package
[01:33] <damarusama> (I am stuck in the console with not access to my browser apart from w3m ... so appology for basic questions)
[01:33] <qin> damarusama: xinit and openbox; but not certain of effect
[01:35] <tacorwin> Damarusama: type "sudo apt-get remove xfce* xubuntu*" without the quotes. This will uninstall the WM/DM, but will also uninstall any package that has the word "xubuntu" and "xfce" in it.
[01:35] <SaberX01> I think, he needs to stop the current manager first, the dpkg-reconfigure <desired-wm>
[01:35] <SaberX01> *then dpkg .. ..
[01:36] <qin> damarusama: to be presice: xinit -- :1 vt8; and in xterm try to start openbox
[01:36] <damarusama> yeah X restart automatically when I try to stop it
[01:37] <qin> damarusama: sudo service lightdm/gdm/xdm stop; to stop x
[01:39] <damarusama> qin: ha thanks - that's a start :D
[01:40] <qin> damarusama: thanks, I have no clue how to have graphic login included in this
[01:41] <kain> hello guys, any idea why this command: sed -i "s/#archive_command = ''/archive_command = 'envdir /etc/wal-e.d/env wal-e wal-push %p'/" $CONF returns this error? sed: -e expression #1, char 53: unknown option to `s'
[01:42] <rotham> play --no-show-progress --null --channels 1 synth 200  sine 2000
[01:43] <rotham> how can i limit the duration of that cmd to 1 or 2 seconds
[01:43] <SaberX01> kain, try in #sed  or #bash ..
[01:43] <rotham> nm got it
[01:43] <kain> thanks SaberX01
[02:02] <cauthon> I have an Ubuntu server, and I just got a new machine I'd like to take its place. I just want to clone the entire hard drive to the one in the new machine, over the network. I have LiveCDs running on both, with OpenSSH server running and ready to go. How do I accomplish that?
[02:07] <qin> cauthon: dd over ssh in one solution, unison or rsync another. copying image over network have some simple failbacks, sync needs more preps
[02:07] <SaberX01> cauthon, for package selections: Original Box: dpkg --get-selections > OrigBoxSelections .. then on the new box: sudo apt-get install < OrigBoxSlections  .. that's a start but not all inclusive.
[02:08] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. If I install 12.04 LTS can I us the Cinnamon desktop with this? Thanks.
[02:08] <gmachine_24> *use
[02:08] <qin> SaberX01: he is using live systems
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: cinnamon  is lnly available in 13.10 repos
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> !info cinnamon | gmachine_24
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> only*
[02:09] <cauthon> qin: Any disadvantages to dd over ssh? Seems like the simplest idea. Will that get me GRUB and everything so I literally just reboot into the same machine?
[02:09] <gmachine_24> so that would be a no. thank you. :-) and happy holidaze
[02:09] <SaberX01> qin, cauthon, here's a similar example of what I was referring to .. with bit more detail
[02:10] <SaberX01> http://eggsonbread.com/2010/01/28/move-ubuntu-to-another-computer-in-3-simple-steps/
[02:10] <qin> cauthon: pretty much if connection drops you have to restart proces, plus some hardware may deliver trouble
[02:11] <cauthon> qin: Hardware? You mean the system may have been set up to recognize the old machine's hardware and I wouldn't have a way of configuring it for the new hardware?
[02:11] <cauthon> SaberX01: Thanks, that's a good idea if just cloning the drive isn't an option
[02:12] <qin> cauthon: if you copr
[02:12] <qin> cauthon: if you copy raw image of odl system, yes, you will have to reconfigure it on first boot
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> is there a GUI package to optimize ssd tweaks in ubuntu?
[02:13] <cauthon> qin: Any idea what's involved in that? I imagine it's just triggering whatever process discovers your hardware in the installation process, but I have no idea how that's done
[02:14] <SaberX01> That' looks simple in the installer, but there is allot going on behind the scenes with HW detection & configuration.
[02:15] <qin> cauthon: well, firslt arch (assuming it is the same), nic, lvm, and app speecific configs
[02:16] <bravo_> anyone know ajax?
[02:16] <GeonoTRON2000> I have a pretty serious problem.
[02:17] <SaberX01> cauthon, may have missed this, is are the boxes servers or workstation ?
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: share it with us please
[02:17] <SaberX01> !details | GeonoTRON2000
[02:17] <cummseng> How do i stop pulseaudio from changing the default device? It changes everytime i restart my pc
[02:18] <cauthon> SaberX01: Servers. Well, glorified 5-year-old Windows boxes, but servers nonetheless.
[02:18] <GeonoTRON2000> I've installed ubuntu on a lenovo yoga 2 pro, and now when I start it up the screen goes black.
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: ubuntu version plz?
[02:18] <GeonoTRON2000> 13.10
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> !sound | cummseng
[02:19] <SaberX01> !nomodeset  | GeonoTRON2000 SOme options to look at:
[02:19] <Darkfire> !players
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: can you still enter grub?
[02:19] <cauthon> SaberX01: qin: Both are 64-bit systems, but one is an Intel laptop and the other is an AMD desktop
[02:20] <GeonoTRON2000> I don't believe it's a problem with the drivers, actually
[02:20] <david[1]> Hello, the program I'm trying to install (Adobe InDesign CS 6) states that it requires an Intel Pentium 4 processor or an AMD Athlon 64 processor, and a 16-bit graphics card
[02:20] <david[1]> I'm not sure how to check if my computer meets those requirements.
[02:20] <GeonoTRON2000> when I close the lid for a while and then open, the login screen flashes, then goes back to black
[02:20] <david[1]> My processor is listed as an Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410m CPU
[02:20] <tacorwin> That my friend is a comparability issue with your driver. I had the same problem
[02:21] <tacorwin> Compatibility*^
[02:21] <cummseng> lotuspsychje, none of those links help. My sound is working perfectly, it's just that it switches to another sound card when i reboot, i then have to switch it back to the preferred device.
[02:21] <david[1]> Any idea if that processor would meet the requirements?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> cummseng: can you disable the non-used sound card in bios?
[02:21] <cauthon> david[1]: Sounds good, i5 is significantly faster than a Pentium 4
[02:22] <david[1]> cauthon: Thanks. Any idea how I could check the 16-bit graphics card part?
[02:22] <cummseng> lotuspsychje, i can but i need it
[02:22] <cauthon> david[1]: AFAIK as long as your driver is correct, you'll be good on that as well.
[02:22] <david[1]> cauthon: Okay, thanks!
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> cummseng: you have 2 diff soundcards that you use togheter then?
[02:23] <cummseng> lotuspsychje, one is only ever used at a time. i switch between the two.
[02:23] <GeonoTRON2000> I've gotten it to boot once, and it said there were no additional drivers
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> cummseng: not sure how ubuntu acts on that, lemme lookup a few
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: try booting a kernel in recoverymode failsafeX from grub
[02:24] <Darkfire> GeonoTRON2000: check step 4, hope it helps http://datainfer.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/install-ubuntu-on-ideapad-yoga-2-pro/
[02:24] <GeonoTRON2000> the problem is, I don't get a grub menu either
[02:24] <david[1]> cauthon: Wait sorry, I made a mistake. It states that it needs a 16-bit graphics adapter, not a 16-bit graphics card.
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: you cant enter grub by holding shift?
[02:25] <GeonoTRON2000> I can't.
[02:25] <david[1]> cauthon: Does that make a difference to your earlier statement that the correct driver should do the trick?
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> cummseng: maybe this can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922860
[02:26] <SaberX01> cauthon, bottom line is, it really depends on two majaor factors, as to which is the best way to go, the level of customization on Box1 and the Hardware deltas between Box1 & Box2 .. Sometimes, a new install with simple data backups is the easiest way to go.
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> !info paprefs | cummseng
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> cummseng: you should be able to config multiple cards with this tool, didnt test myself..
[02:27] <david[1]> cauthon: Never mind, I just googled and realized that adapter and card refer to the same thing in this context. Oops.
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: i doubt you cant enter grub, you sure you hold shift long enough at boot?
[02:29] <cauthon> SaberX01: Right. I have custom configs scattered throughout the machine, it's a plex server, openvpn, connects to my NAS to get to the media stored on it, a million other things, and I just don't want to reconfigure everything
[02:30] <cauthon> I suppose I could do a fresh install, add all packages from the machine using that article, copy /etc/*, and hope for the best
[02:30] <GeonoTRON2000> I've held shift until it plays the login screen music, so yeah.
[02:30] <SaberX01> cauthon, defiantely, do the base install then use that dpkg -get-selections to get additional packages and configs for you.
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: if you can boot ubuntu till login, you should at least be able to enter grub
[02:31] <GeonoTRON2000> when exactly should I hold shift?
[02:31] <cauthon> SaberX01: There's also custom scripts scattered throughout the /etc folders that do various things, etc. So to confirm, there's no way to dd the entire drive and then just run whatever hardware discovery process the original installation process runs? Seems like there has to be an easier way than a fresh install
[02:32] <pgar23> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2196089&p=12884589#post12884589
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: the moment you hit power button/post boot
[02:33] <jaco> salut à tous
[02:33] <SaberX01> cauthon, I've only used dd a few time, and nothing wiht any sorts of complexity to it, maybe some of these other guys, I've not though. I do know dd is an exact copy.
[02:33] <jaco> okj on est pas du tout sur le server francophone
[02:33] <cauthon> (I know I can try the dd over ssh and pray it works, but if there's a hardware issue, I'm thinking there has to be something like 're-check all my hardware and do the right thing' command. You know, the easy button. :) )
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> !fr | jaco
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[02:34] <SaberX01> cauthon, If you plan on doing this routinely, or maybe on critical services, Look at the Landscape applicaiton.
[02:34] <Griz64> hey gang. i need an assist with HDMI audio. "aplay -l"  lists  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]   and  "speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,3"  DOES give me the 'static' that it's supposed to but when I look under the CONFIGURATION tab in pavucontrol, there is NO HDMI device listed and none of my audio apps seem to recognize that it exists. ATT i'm running KDE on a 12.04.3 and full up-to-date. can any of you help shed some light on this iss
[02:34] <Griz64> ue?
[02:34] <GeonoTRON2000> just restarted the computer, held shift from power to login and no grub
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: can he use aptoncd on his remote machine to speed things up?
[02:34] <cauthon> SaberX01: Heard about that, thanks, I'll check that out.
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Griz64
[02:35] <Bashing-om> cauthon, Another consideration with dd - makes an exact copy - on the target machine the UUIDs for fstab and grub will have to be changed to reflect the new environment ,
[02:36] <SaberX01> lotuspsychje, From all he's said, it's not simply the apps that are of concern, custom scripts, config data, stuff like that, just not sure.
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: how about hitting shift alot
[02:36] <Griz64> lotuspsychje, those sites were of no use (to date). any other references to look into?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Griz64: you installed your sound driver?
[02:37] <mattwj2002> hi all what is the current status of burning bluray video disc in ubuntu?
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> mattwj2002: did you try burning one with brasero?
[02:38] <Griz64> lotuspsychje, well, internal audio works 5x5 and the usb headset does also, so i would have to say "Yes, I have sound drivers installed."
[02:38] <mattwj2002> brasero I want to take some mpeg2 files and burn them to disc
[02:38] <GeonoTRON2000> I'm just gonna close and open it a lot until I get access again...
[02:38] <cauthon> Bashing-om: Interesting, thanks.
[02:39] <Darkfire> GeonoTRON2000: hmmm have you tried ctrl + alt + F1 when it's at the black screen?
[02:39] <mattwj2002> not as in data but as in a video that can be played in a bluray player
[02:39] <Darkfire> GeonoTRON2000: if you are lucky you'll get a console to work with
[02:39] <GeonoTRON2000> ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't seem to do anything
[02:40] <Griz64> lotuspsychje, am i incorrect in my thinking?
[02:40] <mattwj2002> lotuspsychje: does Brasero have native support?
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> Griz64: not sure mate, whats your purpose of pavucontrol?
[02:41] <SaberX01> K3B sudpports it,
[02:41] <cauthon> Leaning towards a fresh install and some judicious SCP'ing of /etc subdirectories not
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> mattwj2002: you have a bluray burner ?
[02:41] <Griz64> lotuspsychje, specifying what program (e.g. Skype, mplayer, vlc, etc) use which audio device.
[02:42] <mattwj2002> yup
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> mattwj2002: if you have a bluray burner, you should be able to burn some right
[02:42] <mattwj2002> I have no media
[02:43] <Guest6627> hello how's it going? I am using Ubuntu 13.10 and am having an issue. Amazon and Ubuntu one will not go away. No matter what I do I can't delete them. When I go to the Ubuntu menu and try right clicking there is no remove option, only  a launch option. How can I make these go away?
[02:43] <GeonoTRON2000> I've got a console via SSH, what do I do from here?
[02:43] <mattwj2002> I am just wondering about how to author a Video BluRay in Ubuntu
[02:43] <mattwj2002> original design
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> Griz64: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-permanent
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> !bluray | mattwj2002
[02:45] <SaberX01> cauthon, this is an areas that sysadmins CIO's and the links spend allto of time hashing out long before the decisions to purchase HW is ever made, just to ensure smooth transitions.
[02:45] <SaberX01> *and the like .. ..
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> GeonoTRON2000: what does lshw -C video show after driver=
[02:46] <Griz64> lotuspsychje, Thank You, that turned on a couple of lights and I was able to track down where the issue lay. Good Job! Have a Grand New Year!
[02:47] <cauthon> SaberX01: I'd expect it to be a solved problem at this point, but I'm not surprised. One of those things that's harder than it looks I guess.
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Griz64
[02:48] <GeonoTRON2000> the problem is fixed, thanks everybody!
[02:48] <cauthon> SaberX01: This is one of those things that makes me want to run this in a VM, but not certain media transcoding would do well in that kind of an environment
[02:48] <SaberX01> cauthon, for the little guys it's a problem, for big guys, they have the resources / manpower to make things go allot easier, allto of times the whole thing is outsourced, depending on the scale of the project.
[02:49] <cauthon> SaberX01: Plus they're solving the same problem once for dozens of machines, instead of once for one machine
[02:49] <cauthon> Makes sense
[02:49] <SaberX01> yes, onzy, twozy is painfull ..
[02:50] <TJ-> cauthon: If you're cloning the raw drives, once the clone is done if the old server is being retired you don't need to change anything. If you intend keeping both running you need to change hostname and any statically allocated IPs.
[02:50] <cauthon> Note to self: Buy powerful enough Synology NAS that it can run Plex on itself :)
[02:51] <cauthon> TJ-: Really? If there's a possibility of it working, I'll let it dd overnight. Worst case I can go the clean install route. I am indeed retiring the old server.
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> !info partimage | cauthon
[02:52] <TJ-> cauthon: The only reason you might want to do more would be if you were cloning disks in the same system and would end up with conflicting file-system IDs... but as this a network clone-and-retire, you don't need to change anything on the new clone. Just change things on the old system (new hostname and IP and stop its services)
[02:52] <cauthon> TJ-: Old system is running a LiveCD just incase it decided to write to a file while it was being dd'ed over. Cool, I'll give it a try.
[02:54] <TJ-> cauthon: For speed, I'd always just plug the old hard disk directly into the new system temporarily, and do a very fast dd clone
[02:55] <cauthon> TJ-: I'd like to, but don't have a way of connecting the laptop drive into the system
[02:55] <SaberX01> cauthon, buy a scalable system, one you can add CPU's too, increase RAM need, expand the disk array ..  ;--)
[02:55] <Guest82237> hgyg
[02:56] <cauthon> SaberX01: Looking forward to the cash to do that :)
[02:56] <TJ-> cauthon: annoying! I have a machine dedicated to the task called 'caddy' with every conceivable interface and hot-swap bays
[02:57] <cauthon> TJ-: Nice, that's a great idea
[02:57] <SaberX01> cauthon, thats the nice thing about it, you can start small and increase over time, server dont need the latest and greatest .. just need to be robust and scalable.
[02:57] <TJ-> cauthon: Is your network gigabit or fast ethernet ?
[02:58] <cauthon> TJ-: Nope, I have an ancient Linksys with 10/100. Works for 1080p video (barely) but hobbles my NAS
[02:58] <TJ-> cauthon: because if it isn't gigabit you might benefit from using compression (either "ssh -C" or "dd ... | gzip | ssh ...")
[02:58] <cauthon> Ah good to know
[03:06] <cauthon> Out of curiosity, for those who run Ubuntu servers as a NAS with a RAID array, what do you use for RAID? I'm a huge fan of Synology, being able to add drives at will and not lose any capacity, but don't know if there's an equivalent
[03:06] <cauthon> I checked out FreeNAS and it was a cool toy, but the need for ECC ram and lots of it dissuaded me
[03:09] <SaberX01> Depends on your level of fault tolerance, RAID5,6,10 fault disks 1,2,1 .. and of course how padded the wallet is :-)
[03:11] <Naddiseo> How can I configure xorg to use two devices with different drivers (radeon + fglrx)? xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/6647621/  xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6647611/
[03:11] <SaberX01> cauthon, the guys over a Nix have a pretty good explanation of 5 v.s. 10: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/raid5-vs-raid-10-safety-performance.html
[03:15] <SaberX01> Naddiseo, while I dont have the answer your seeking, one or the other is rough enough, good luck :-)
[03:17] <cauthon> SaberX01: Thanks, is there an equivalent to Synology Hybrid RAID? IE software RAID with 1-disk failure tolerance, with no loss of capacity except for that of the largest drive in the array, and the ability to hot swap in new drives and expand capacity of an existing array?
[03:18] <cauthon> I thought I remembered seeing the vaunted "Synology Hybrid RAID" was just a nickname for an existing Linux technology that's out there and free/OSS, but can't remember the name
[03:20] <M4dH4TT3r> 1+0?
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> 10 :)
[03:25] <demophobia> Should I select 'Security: WPA & WPA2 Personal' for a wireless connection whose security is 'WPA2-PSK [AES]'?
[03:26] <demophobia> There is also the option 'WPA & WPA2 Enterprise', which I think is something else ...
[03:26] <cauthon> demophobia: Right, you want personal
[03:26] <cauthon> Enterprise is for when there's a server that hands out per-device credentials, not a pre-shared key (PSK)
[03:26] <SaberX01> cauthon, I'd get a nice LSI, 3ware or Adaptec controller that supports RAID10 and call it a day, being sure to check that's it's Linux supported of course :-)
[03:27] <demophobia> Thank you. I'm still working to get wireless internet working; I will now try a different wireless adapter. Thank you, cauthon: That was my impression.
[03:30] <cauthon> SaberX01: Can RAID10 really expand on-demand? My impression is once you have the array, you're stuck with it unless your RAID controller happens to allow that in a non-standard way
[03:31] <SaberX01> cauthon, On demand as in by usage ? not sure about that one, but adding mroe drive over time is simple.
[03:32] <cauthon> Oh, you can add more drives. Okay, thanks, I'll have to look into it. I'm just about to fill the Synology I have, so it's between buying one with more bays or moving over to my Ubuntu server for the NAS
[03:33] <SaberX01> cauthon, it's up to you really whatever is easier to mange, backup and expand for you as the admin is what you should get. What works for one applicaiton may not be ideal for another.
[03:42] <demophobia> Thank you again for your help. I have now connected to the internet and am downloading updates.
[03:43] <demophobia> Please say a prayer for me that this hard drive is not damaged, that it was only some corrupt Windows registry files ...
[03:44] <mikeb2013> hi everyone
[03:44] <mikeb2013> i cant get any sound on a lubuntu box
[03:45] <mikeb2013> but i know it works because it works when i boot into another os
[03:46] <mikeb2013> anybody have any ideas- i have tried everything that i could find on google
[03:46] <mattwj2002> hi guys I need help with a dependency issue.....I am using mythbuntu not ubuntu help please!
[03:46] <mattwj2002> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mythtv/2012-July/000841.html
[03:46] <mattwj2002> that is my issue
[03:48] <Bashing-om> demophobia: prayer done, "dd" is good about reclaiming sectors .
[03:48] <mattwj2002> is there a way to skip a single dependency?
[03:52] <n00d> well
[03:53] <demophobia> Bashing-om: Thank you. 😊
[03:56] <linuxdog> yo
[03:57] <mattwj2002> yo linuxdog
[03:57] <duhamel> hi all. i have radeon HD 7560d onboard with using flgrx-updates additional driver. hooked up to tv with HDMI the test button under sound menu gives audio but i dont get it anywhere else
[03:57] <duhamel> any ideas
[03:57] <mattwj2002> I figured it out
[03:57] <M4dH4TT3r> anyone here familar with ubuntu-touch or wrong chan?
[03:58] <mattwj2002> quiet room....why?
[03:58] <duhamel> really quiet
[03:58] <M4dH4TT3r> all went quiet about 30mins ago...
[03:58] <mattwj2002> weird
[03:58] <linuxdog> Ok
[03:58] <linuxdog> Having an issue with a Dell Inspirion 8500
[03:58] <mattwj2002> everyone is here but no one is talking
[03:58] <M4dH4TT3r> guessing theres a superbowl or something
[03:58] <linuxdog> will not boot from USB or DVD
[03:58] <jj1234> is Network Manager no longer a service in 13.10?  I can't seem to be able to restart it
[03:58] <mattwj2002> no super
[03:59] <mattwj2002> bowl
[03:59] <linuxdog> LOL
[03:59] <linuxdog> Why watch the super bowl? All the commercials on on Youtube! :)
[03:59] <mattwj2002> audio is broke is 13.10
[03:59] <M4dH4TT3r> Dell inspiron use A:
[03:59] <n00d> anyone can give me greasemonkey scripting help?
[03:59] <duhamel> linuxdog: can you boot off harddrive? is bios working?
[03:59] <linuxdog> YEs
[03:59] <linuxdog> Set the BIOS
[03:59] <linuxdog> Damn thing says "load error - boot error"
[03:59] <M4dH4TT3r> lithium ok?
[04:00] <M4dH4TT3r> ramm error
[04:00] <linuxdog> duhaml, think it won't work
[04:00] <demophobia> Should I be concerned that, after clicking "Install Updates" for "204 updates", the 'Applying changes' window says only 'Waiting' with no action in the progress bar, with a triangle with grey 'Details' text unresponsive to click (which click I think should open a window displaying text about the progress)?
[04:00] <duhamel> how did you make bootable usb? unetbootin?
[04:00] <linuxdog> Trying to install Lubuntu for fun
[04:00] <n00d> you dont talk about 'windows' here do you?
[04:01] <hkr> yo
[04:01] <mattwj2002> hi hkr
[04:01] <linuxdog> duhamel, Yes unetbootin double checked the md5sums
[04:01] <duhamel> hm..
[04:01] <linuxdog> duhamel, used brasero for the DVDs
[04:01] <duhamel> is legacy enabled in bios?
[04:02] <M4dH4TT3r> no windows is to easy
[04:02] <duhamel> uefi?
[04:02] <linuxdog> duhamel, What? I checked the md5sums before installing onto a DVD or USB
[04:02] <linuxdog> duhamel, unsure
[04:02] <linuxdog> duhamel, how would I check
[04:02] <Bashing-om>  demophobia; I would be concerned, give it a bit more time, fd non responsive, close it out, and open terminal -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <-, advise if erors shown.
[04:03] <linuxdog> how do I use this in XCHAT?
[04:03] <duhamel> yeah, but if it is a UEFI bios sometimes binaries are whitelisted and you have to play with bios settings. Is it a windows 8 machine?
[04:03] <demophobia> 'fd' = 'if'?
[04:04] <duhamel> hi all. i have radeon HD 7560d onboard with using flgrx-updates additional driver. hooked up to tv with HDMI the test button under sound menu gives audio but i dont get it anywhere else does anybody have any suggestions
[04:05] <demophobia> Bashing-om: I've started a timer for 15 minutes. D'you think that is enough time for either 171.9-300 MB of updates to install, or for *something* to happen with the 'Applying changes' window? I think perhaps some glitch occurred with authenticating: I may have interacted with the Update Manager at the same time that language updates were installing (apparently in relation to Settings' Language preferences and LibreO
[04:05] <demophobia> ffice).
[04:05] <Bashing-om> demophobia; fd = if .. affirmative, sorry thought I "looked".
[04:05] <duhamel> linuxdog: in UEFI bios sometimes binaries are whitelisted and you have to play with bios settings. Is it a windows 8 machine?
[04:05] <linuxdog> duhamel, Windows XP pos, it's like 9 years old
[04:05] <n00d> linuxdog i use ADIIRC on linux
[04:06] <linuxdog> n00d, is that easier to use
[04:06] <Bashing-om> demophobia; 15 minutes is more than I would allow for something to happen on my system(s) .
[04:06] <cvtsx> ubuntu is def the best OS ;)
[04:07] <linuxdog> n00d, then xchat
[04:07] <n00d> idk about that never used xhcat
[04:08] <duhamel> i wish wilee-nilee was here. he'd know what to do!
[04:08] <demophobia> (Well, it's already been five minutes ...)
[04:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Wha-huh? Did I miss something?
[04:11] <mintydog> What up
[04:12] <demophobia> Bashing-om: I opened the Ubuntu Software Center and there is an "Applying changes" progress bar about 85% completed.
[04:12] <Bashing-om> demophobia; Think it is now time enough, Close out USC - gracefully - I would go to terminal amd see what I could find for a status on the package management system, advised up commands.
[04:12] <demophobia> This progress bar seems to imply that the updates are installing, but shouldn't I be concerned that the window popped up by the Update Manager became non-responsive? ...
[04:13] <Bashing-om> demophobia; ZFR my last ! .. will take a wait and see attitude !
[04:13] <Guinan> I just tried 'upgrading' my  Eee 1000HD (900 mhz celeron) from Ubuntu Precise to Lubuntu Saucy. I'm really not liking LXDE. Can anyone recommend a lightweight alternative that works like Unity?
[04:13] <demophobia> likewise, i had firefox open, and a black bar near the top came up 'your browser has been updated and needs to be restarted' ... which i think is more evidence that updates are being installed
[04:13] <demophobia> I don't understand what that last comment means, "ZFR my last !" etc
[04:14] <Bashing-om> demophobia; Yeah .. looking better allah the time .
[04:16] <Bashing-om> demophobia; Not to be concerned with ZFR .. short hand for "disregard" . I get in too big of a hurry sometimes !
[04:16] <demophobia> Ok, thank you.
[04:17] <M4dH4TT3r> allah like the koran?
[04:17] <demophobia> D: not sure if good: had to restart to finish updating, and 4 messages popped up briefly during the bootup screen which i didn't have time to read, indicating that multiple things had been disabled
[04:18] <Guinan> allah like allah yall should listen
[04:18] <M4dH4TT3r> Terrorist!
[04:18] <Guinan> M4dH4TT3r, have you lost allah yo marbles?
[04:19] <duhamel> I have audio through HDMI except in browser and netflix ubuntu 13.10 proprietary amd drivers flgrx-updates. any ideas
[04:19] <linuxdog> duhamel, What does pressing A do on a Dell Inspiron
[04:19]  * M4dH4TT3r watching as old ladies violently attack Guinan
[04:19] <duhamel> should out put an "a"
[04:19] <linuxdog> duhamel, Didn't medibuntu stop supporting some hardware
[04:19] <Bashing-om> demophobia; Well.   Coicencence?
[04:31] <somsip> MrSalt: yes. Back on topic now...
[04:31] <M4dH4TT3r> good
[04:31] <diped327600> I think it's M4dH4TT3r flooding the room
[04:32] <n00d> ^
[04:32] <demophobia> Bashing-om, what do you mean by PM?
[04:33] <n00d> demophobia she meant private message
[04:33] <demophobia> That's what I thought, but I was confused because I don't see any private message.
[04:35] <Bashing-om> demophobia; If there is any existent problems with updates, the Package Manager will be aware of it, and when -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- is issued if there are problems, there will be advisories generated to that terminal in that output.
[04:36] <M4dH4TT3r> everybody done flooding now?
[04:37] <M4dH4TT3r> guess not...
[04:38] <jellow> glad that is over perhaps time to turn off text to voice
[04:38] <M4dH4TT3r> lmao
[04:38] <M4dH4TT3r> perhaps
[04:38] <M4dH4TT3r> looks like floodbots are coming back
[04:39] <researcher1231> how to install Ubuntu 32 bits from recently installed 64 bits?
[04:39] <M4dH4TT3r> with 32 bit image...
[04:40] <M4dH4TT3r> here we go
[04:40] <researcher1231> M4dH4TT3r: But will it erase earlier without deleting download n document folder?
[04:41] <demophobia> Bashing-om, I just ran 'sudo apt-get update' in terminal and didn't see anything noteworthy except one 'Ign' where the others said 'Hit'
[04:41] <jellow> researcher1231: you need to install a32-libs
[04:41] <demophobia> How do I install the Japanese keyboard layouts that Mac OS X has?
[04:42] <researcher1231> when I install a 32 bit on 64 bit will my earlier programs,download n document folder remain unaffected?
[04:42] <Bashing-om> demophobia; ign is OK .. ign == ignore .. as in presently not concerned. Now the biggy -> sudo apt-get upgrade <- .
[04:43] <jellow> researcher1231: I recommend you take frequent backups but yet it should be fine , it only a package
[04:43] <demophobia> Bashing-om, says 'Reading package lists... Done / Building dependency tree / Reading state information ... Done / 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.'
[04:44] <xoc__> hey I have like 1gig left on my hdd but apt-get is saying my stuff is full and cannot install stuff; what is the deal
[04:44] <Bashing-om> demophobia; installing alternate keyboard layouts is not in the sphere of my knowledge, I just know that it can be done.
[04:44] <xoc__> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': No space left on device
[04:44] <xoc__> how do I get more space?
[04:44] <researcher1231> jellow: Last time I took backup (from 12.10)  but unable to restore (on 13.10)
[04:45] <Bashing-om> demophobia; That means you are DONE ... up and running .. system is HAppy Happy Happy !
[04:45] <M4dH4TT3r> buy a bigger hdd
[04:45] <xoc__> M4dH4TT3r: what can I do to see what the hell is taking up all this space
[04:46] <xoc__> i want to delete stuff
[04:46] <SarahX> Anyone play dayz here? this dude is streaming it atm and wondering if anyone else plays it? http://www.twitch.tv/fragshackgamers
[04:48] <somsip> !ot | SarahX
[04:48] <Bashing-om> xoc__ : What returns from terminal commands ->df -h , df -i <- relates where the space is taken up.
[04:48] <SarahX> thx
[04:49] <somsip> xoc__: do you have /var/lib on a separate partition? You could try sudo apt-get clean to reclaim some space
[04:50] <demophobia> :D Thank you so much! <3
[04:50] <demophobia> Regarding Japanese, I am now following http://www.tofugu.com/guides/type-japanese-ubuntu/
[04:51] <Bashing-om> demophobia; Glad to be of help. ubuntu, one for all and all for 1 .
[04:53] <demophobia> I'm having trouble getting a last.fm radio station to play on Rhythmbox ... Is this a known issue/
[04:53] <demophobia> ?
[04:55] <linux_unix-10> is it possible to make an ubuntu touch build for qvga?
[04:55] <somsip> !touch | linux_unix-10
[04:55] <jj1234> is Network Manager no longer a service in 13.10?  I can't seem to be able to restart it
[04:55] <stefanhc> Hello!
[04:58] <AndroidLoverInSF> if i upgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 13.10 will it erase my fstab?
[04:59] <somsip> AndroidLoverInSF: no
[05:00] <AndroidLoverInSF> somsip, cool
[05:00] <ice799> Hi - I am trying to understand what the purpose of the 'Supported' tag in the file Packages which is generated by reprepro on Ubuntu
[05:01] <ice799> what is the proper channel to ask ubuntu specific reprepro questions in?
[05:02] <ramborocks> better yet
[05:02] <Bashing-om> AndroidLoverInSF > No it will not erase it .. however, good backups is always a good thing, prior to doing ANY big changes, make it so !
[05:02] <ramborocks> what are some good channels for tech advice
[05:02] <somsip> ice799: reprepro is a supported package so you can ask here
[05:02] <somsip> !ask | ramborocks
[05:02] <SaberX01> AndroidLoverInSF, doing more that two levels of upgrade generally not advised though, LTS to LTS well supported, but 04 all the way to 13.10 could be risky.
[05:03] <AndroidLoverInSF> SaberX01, thx for the warning,
[05:04] <ramborocks> so if android does switch can he just copy paste his old fstab?
[05:04] <AndroidLoverInSF> i lost my sound even though all the apps like kmix, pulse audio volume control, audio and video settings seem alright
[05:04] <ramborocks> i edited my fstab last night and got locked out and had to unmount / remount (after a hour on google trying to figure out) while locked out
[05:05] <AndroidLoverInSF> can i re-install something to just reset it easily
[05:06] <somsip> ramborocks: always backup system files when editing them. Always have a live cd/usb to hand to help if you need to recover
[05:08] <ramborocks> just got my first tablet, the droid 7 inch azpen
[05:08] <ramborocks> seems like a good little buy for $40.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: plz keep this channel for ubuntu support only
[05:09] <ramborocks> anyone ever root it? or is it not necessary
[05:09] <somsip> ramborocks: offtopic chat is better in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:09] <ramborocks> ok
[05:11] <M4dH4TT3r> wheres the corner?
[05:12] <M4dH4TT3r> I cant remember...
[05:12] <Hydr0p0nX>  running ubuntu 12.04 and to get hdmi audio out working I had to upgrade to kernel v. 3.11 and disable the proprietary nvidia driver. now, hd video playback is choppy
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: video on vlc or youtube?
[05:13] <Hydr0p0nX> mythtv
[05:13] <M4dH4TT3r> wheres the corner?
[05:13] <Dylann> Does anybody know if its possible to re-locate my wine installation from my SSD to HDD?
[05:13] <Hydr0p0nX> but it also seems to be locking up the machine from time to time
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> M4dH4TT3r: what corner?
[05:16] <SaberX01> Dylann, maybe better to ask in #winehq
[05:17] <Hydr0p0nX> kernel 3.8 w/ nvidia's driver is rock solid, but hdmi audio doesn't work ... the audio out not working with nvidia's driver seems to be a bug in nvidia's driver, based on a thread at nvidia's dev forums
[05:17] <ubuntu-gnome> using 13.10 livecd, my hdd access light is always on - I don't understand why disk would be accessed... any hints?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: did you try nvidia-current?
[05:18] <Hydr0p0nX> yes
[05:18] <Hydr0p0nX> tried 304, 319, current, and 331.20
[05:19] <SaberX01> ubuntu-gnome, try looking in the system monitor for apps running in the background Dash >> System Monitor ..
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: what chipset of your card mate?
[05:20] <osubuntu> sudo apt-get moo returns nothing?
[05:21] <Hydr0p0nX> geforce 8200 / MCP78S
[05:21] <SaberX01> osubuntu, ok, I'll bite, what is moo ?
[05:22] <osubuntu> SaberX01, It should print "Have you mooed today?" but it prints nothing and returns error code 126
[05:22] <ubuntu-gnome> it used to be a joke feature in apt
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: not sure mate sorry
[05:23] <SaberX01> osubuntu, lol .. indeed it does, or at least mine does, had no idea that was there.
[05:23] <cauthon> Hydr0p0nX: I had the same issue, no audio via HDMI on a laptop with GeForce Go 7600
[05:23] <osubuntu> I checked the checksum of apt-get and it matches with the official one
[05:24] <Hydr0p0nX> i'm fine with using opensource driver if I can get it stable
[05:24] <Hydr0p0nX> oh wow
[05:24] <Hydr0p0nX> how'd i turn on the underline ?
[05:24] <diped327600> cauthon: audio on GeForce was not introduced until 200 series
[05:25] <diped327600> cauthon: thru hdmi
[05:25] <SaberX01> osubuntu, pass, no idea on that one, like I said, never knew it was there to begin with :-)
[05:26] <ubuntu-gnome> are there things that system monitor will show me that lsof won't catch? there are no hd volumes mounted, and unless sth has changed in the last three years, I believe livecd does not create or use swap files on windows or any other hdd partitions...
[05:27] <ubuntu-gnome> it's also not typical for the hdd light to be on permanently... I'm beginning to suspect that the light is being set to on in spite of no actual hdd activity... not sure if that's possible
[05:27] <Hydr0p0nX> fixed ?
[05:27] <Hydr0p0nX> k
[05:27] <Hydr0p0nX> not sure what happened there ...
[05:28] <cauthon> diped327600: This particular laptop seemed to have it, it was billed as an HTPC so it had audio via HDMI and included a remote control. May have been some proprietary HP voodoo. (Which may be why it didn't work in Linux.) http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-PC-Sound-and-Audio/No-Sound-from-HDMI-in-Win-7-Pavilion-9000-GeForce-7600/td-p/251333
[05:29] <SaberX01> ubuntu-gnome, I think, tho I'd have to verify it, LiveCD uses a temfs (ram) as necessary for caching / swap or whatever
[05:29] <ubuntu-gnome> yes, it does
[05:30] <ubuntu-gnome> fwiw, the hard drive doesn't seem to be heating up
[05:31] <SaberX01> ubuntu-gnome, you could do something like: iostat -d 10 /dev/sda  to see if any real r/w are happenign to the devices
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: did you test latest alsa drivers?
[05:32] <SaberX01> ubuntu-gnome, need ti install sysstat tho
[05:33] <Hydr0p0nX> using alsa 1.0.25 libraries
[05:33] <Hydr0p0nX> i'm not sure what version alsa modules ship with the 3.11 mainline
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: ive read a few threads with users staying on best working nvidia driver and fixxing their also (some compile from source)
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> *alsa
[05:39] <ubuntu-gnome> SaberX01: hardly any sda activity, certainly doesn't justify the light being on... but just whose bug is this, now?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: you also sure you got the right hdmi cable?
[05:39] <Hydr0p0nX> yep
[05:40] <Hydr0p0nX> like i said, with 3.11 and nouveau hdmi audio out works
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:40] <Hydr0p0nX> just choppy and unstable
[05:40] <SaberX01> ubuntu-gnome, maybe livecd-rootfs  .. just a guess but seems logical
[05:41] <Hydr0p0nX> I'm thinking instability could be due to either mismatch alsa driver / utilities or something a little "off" with the nouveau version provided by ubuntu and the kernel being a 3.11 instead of 3.8
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: there is also a stuttering alinea here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: not sure if this is your case
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: also interesting: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/NVidiaProprietaryDriver#Choppy_video.2FHigh_CPU_Usage
[05:45] <Hydr0p0nX> not seeing high cpu utilization
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> yes but choppy video yes
[05:45] <Hydr0p0nX> only issue i have with the proprietary drive is no audio out over hdmi
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: seems like common issues, our not the only one so it seems
[05:46] <Hydr0p0nX> yea the fun of "old" hardware
[05:47] <FireStorms> Hey, I had my HDD partitioned for Ubuntu/Windows but I deleted my Windows partition. I'm now wanting to give CentOS a try in VMware so I need the extra disk space back. Can I expand my Ubuntu partition? And does anyone know, in VMware, is it possible to drag and drop files, from the host to the virtual OS such as my firefox bookmarks?
[05:47] <Hydr0p0nX> if i could find a spdif header for it , i wouldn't care
[05:48] <Hydr0p0nX> FireStorms, you can grow the partition with a bootable gparted disk, but there is a risk of corruption (i've never had a problem with it)
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> FiremanEd: you can expand partitions with gparted if you like
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> FireStorms: oops that was for you
[05:49] <Hydr0p0nX> vmware generally won't copy/paste from host to guest directly
[05:49] <FireStorms> Hydr0p0nX, lotuspsychje thank you :)
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: you ever got it working on other ubuntu versions?
[05:50] <Hydr0p0nX> it worked on 13.10
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: so it might be a mythbuntu issue?
[05:51] <Hydr0p0nX> i've never gotten it to work on ubuntu 12.04
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ic
[05:51] <Hydr0p0nX> 13.10 works, but i lose usb keyboard and mouse sometimes
[05:52] <Hydr0p0nX> ssh and/or vnc in works fine, and it's ok again for a while after a reboot
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: you got usb keyboard and mouse enabled in bios?
[05:52] <Hydr0p0nX> yep
[05:52] <Hydr0p0nX> i think that's some kind of kernel issue
[05:53] <Hydr0p0nX> i see the same problem with 3.11 on 12.04
[05:53] <Hydr0p0nX> doesn't happen on 3.08
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Hydr0p0nX: yes might be, got me an older ati x800 with a bug on 3 ubuntu versions, finally a kernel update solved it
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> imghost: hello mate
[05:54] <imghost> lotuspsychje, hi what's up?
[05:55] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, my sound is completely dead with mixer displying only dummy outputs.
[05:55] <Wayward_Vagabond> aplay -l returns: aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> imghost: trying to solve Hydr0p0nX's issue, he's on mythbuntu 12.04 with no hdmi audio on nvidia card
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> imghost: any hint for him?
[05:56] <Wayward_Vagabond> I'm on xubuntu quantal
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Wayward_Vagabond
[05:57] <imghost> lotuspsychje, did you change the audio output to hdmi?
[05:57] <Wayward_Vagabond> The soundcard not even showing up is what puzzles me.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> imghost: its for Hydr0p0nX
[05:57] <Hydr0p0nX> imghost, it gets more interesting :)
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Wayward_Vagabond: did you install your sound drivers?
[05:58] <Hydr0p0nX> with the 3.08-34 kernel (current LTS) no combination of options work for audio out with nvidia or nouveau driver ...
[05:59] <Wayward_Vagabond> Sound has worked on this machine before. I was using my laptop at somebody else's house (sound worked), drove home, started, and sound hasn't worked since
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Wayward_Vagabond: so what did you do?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Wayward_Vagabond: recent update?
[05:59] <imghost> Hydr0p0nX, whats error are you getting when you test the sound?
[05:59] <FireStorms> If I had two operating systems (OS1, OS2) dual booted on a HDD and I was logged into OS1 would it be possible to somehow mount and access files from OS2?
[05:59] <Hydr0p0nX> install 3.11.10 mainline from the mainline ppa and use nouveau, hdmi audio works with a couple of modprobe options set but, hd video is choppy
[06:00] <Wayward_Vagabond> lotuspsychje: not, I've not touched anything since sound last worked
[06:00] <Hydr0p0nX> install 3.11.10 mainline from the mainline ppa and use nvidia driver, no hdmi audio out regardless of options
[06:00] <Wayward_Vagabond> *no
[06:01] <mbroeker> FireStorms, yes. you can access your windows or linux installations from a running ubuntu or linux
[06:01] <Hydr0p0nX> with either driver using 3.11 kernel, i have instability to the point of locking up from time to time
[06:01] <FireStorms> mbroeker, even if they're encrypted :)?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Wayward_Vagabond: not sure mate, maybe check your logs at /var/log/syslog
[06:02] <mbroeker> FireStorms, sorry, i was not paranoid enough for this stuff :)
[06:03] <FireStorms> mbroeker, you should me brah the nsa are watching!!!1 lol
[06:04] <Wayward_Vagabond> The only obviously audio stuff I see is nvidia for the hdmi out when I forced an alsa reload
[06:04] <imghost> Hydr0p0nX, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/ nouvea doesnot support hdmi/display port
[06:04] <mbroeker> FireStorms, i want access: snowden earned 150.000 bucks a year and quitted...
[06:04] <BlackBeaver> Hello
[06:05] <uBUXUBu> this acidbase utility looks interesting in ubuntu software center is anyone using it?
[06:05] <uBUXUBu> no reviews on it ...scary
[06:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Dec 28 00:46:22 marvin-laptop kernel: [268244.104105] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:08.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
[06:05] <BlackBeaver> lol
[06:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Dec 28 00:46:22 marvin-laptop kernel: [268244.104112] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:08.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !info acidbase
[06:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Dec 28 00:46:22 marvin-laptop kernel: [268244.104123] hda_intel: Disabling MSI
[06:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Dec 28 00:46:22 marvin-laptop kernel: [268244.104164] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:08.0: setting latency timer to 64
[06:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Dec 28 00:46:22 marvin-laptop kernel: [268245.012042] hda_codec: ALC888: SKU not ready 0x598301f0
[06:05] <FloodBot1> Wayward_Vagabond: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:05]  * FireStorms su paranoia
[06:05] <BlackBeaver> mm
[06:05] <Hydr0p0nX> says it supports hdmi audio out for mine (NV50)
[06:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> ...
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Wayward_Vagabond
[06:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> It was only 5 lines
[06:06] <SaberX01> you got spanked :-)
[06:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> 01:05 < Wayward_Vagabond> Wait, is this relevant?
[06:06] <Hydr0p0nX> Wayward_Vagabond, i'm in 8 different channels right now
[06:07] <Hydr0p0nX> 8 lines floods my display out twice :)
[06:10] <Wayward_Vagabond> That has the same timestamp as the nvidia audio stuff, so it must be the intel chipset for general audio trying to do something
[06:15] <imghost> Hydr0p0nX, ok, did you do proper switching between proprietary and open source video drivers?
[06:16] <Hydr0p0nX> what do you mean, proper switching ?
[06:16] <Hydr0p0nX> i completely uninstalled one before trying the other
[06:17] <imghost> Hydr0p0nX, paste the output of lspci -k
[06:18] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, no ideas on why alsa isn't seeing my soundcard?
[06:18] <saudi> how can i set up the vhost ?
[06:18] <imghost> Hydr0p0nX, also output of dmesg
[06:19] <imghost> Hydr0p0nX, in terminal use command | pastebinit
[06:19] <mbroeker> saudi, check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled for apache2.x
[06:20] <somsip> saudi: acutally, /etc/apache2/sites-available and there will be a default or 000-default in there to use as a template
[06:20] <Hydr0p0nX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6649674/
[06:20] <saudi> no :~
[06:20] <saudi> i mean in this Server
[06:20] <saudi> like this unaffiliated/balsaq
[06:21] <somsip> saudi: you need to be clear what you're referring to
[06:21] <saudi> i mean in this uBUXUBu (~Fred@unaffiliated/balsaq) (
[06:22] <uBUXUBu> hi saudi
[06:22] <somsip> saudi: I don't know what you are referring to. I'm out
[06:22] <SaberX01> saudi, start from the beginning, how you install apach2
[06:22] <SaberX01> *apache2
[06:23] <mbroeker> SaberX01, i think he wants to cloak his identity on this irc server ...
[06:23] <saudi> anyway thanks
[06:23] <saudi> :~
[06:23] <somsip> !cloak | saudi
[06:23] <SaberX01> Whoops, ok .. I misread that whole thing then .. LOL I'm out too then :-)
[06:23] <demophobia> I suspended the computer, started it again, logged in to my account, and after being met with a black screen + cursor for several seconds, this is what is left of the home screen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/110941453@N02/11598274593/
[06:24] <demophobia> the fan is running hard and with a constant high pitched whine or beep
[06:24] <demophobia> should I do a hard shutoff?
[06:24] <demophobia> the video card is GeForce GTX 260.
[06:26] <mikodo> How does one rsync data from a data partition internally to a partition in an usb external drive mounted with mtab? Does the partition in the usb drive need to be mounted  and read by Fstab?
[06:27] <somsip> mikodo: just use the path where the ext drive has been mounted to
[06:27] <mikodo> somsip, I will look at doing that. Thank you!
[06:31] <demophobia> i did a hard shut off and rebooted. now i can't type my password at the login screen. :(
[06:33] <mbroeker> demophobia, do you see the login screen or a black screen?
[06:33] <demophobia> "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error." (/usr/bin/nautilus, nautilus 1:3.4.2-0ubuntu8, ProblemType Crash)
[06:33] <demophobia> i logged in on a different Standard Account that didn't have a password to login, then started trying to type in Dash Home when this window popped up
[06:38] <demophobia> i can't type now
[06:38] <demophobia> when i type i get blocks with numbers as the character
[06:39] <demophobia> or, in libreoffice writer, it acts as if i'm hitting control sequences
[06:40] <demophobia> i was able to reset it by pressing 'control'
[06:40] <peyam> Hi
[06:41] <peyam> I want to speed up the booting time with my xubuntu
[06:41] <peyam> and I want to disable some services. I have bum installed and now I need help with which services are OK to be disabled
[06:41] <uBUXUBu> try this channel #xubuntu
[06:42] <peyam> I hope someone is there #xubuntu used to be very quite
[06:42] <demophobia> now /usr/bin/Xorg has experienced a problem ... maybe the HDD really is bad, thus these problems? first nautilus now xorg
[06:42] <demophobia> 'Xorg crashed with SIGABRT'
[06:44] <mbroeker> demophobia, start gnome-system-log and look into these files
[06:46] <lorfds> I'm trying to run a shell script from php
[06:46] <lorfds> when i run the script as root, it works fine
[06:46] <lorfds> either by calling the php script from the command line with php script.php
[06:46] <lorfds> or by calling the shell script directlly
[06:47] <lorfds> however, when i try to access the php page as a web user, nothing happens
[06:47] <lorfds> any thoughts on how i can make the php script run the shell_exec script when accessed as a web user
[06:47] <cauthon> Thanks to everyone for their help, the dd finished and the server is up and running on the new machine. I had to fix the ethernet rules, other than that it was seamless
[06:47] <mjayk> lorfds: webuser has permissions to run it
[06:47] <lorfds> I'm not concerned about security at the moment.....i realize there might be security issues here
[06:48] <lorfds> mjayk..... are you saying does web user have perms to run shell script?
[06:48] <jrib>  lorfds you're being too vague
[06:49] <lorfds> ok....currently, web root is owned by root
[06:49] <mjayk> lorfds: thats how id interpretate it
[06:49] <lorfds> all files are owned by root
[06:49] <jrib> lorfds: collect your thoughts, summarize your issues, give details, on one line.  Use a pastebin if you need space for logs, command output, source code, etc.
[06:49] <lorfds> ok
[06:50] <lorfds> i just want the answer :P !!
[06:50] <mjayk> dont we all
[06:50] <somsip> lorfds: make the file readable by www-data
[06:50] <hkr> Which is the most stable desktop environment ?
[06:51] <somsip> !flavours | hkr
[06:51] <hkr> ._. somsip I know that. I use xubuntu myself
[06:51] <hkr> I was asking which was the most stable one.
[06:51] <somsip> hkr: so there's your list of supported DEs. Have a look round and see what appeals, or what gets bad press as far as bugs are concerned
[06:51] <mjayk> then you will also know there is not a " most stable desktop"
[06:51] <hkr> okay :(
[06:51] <imghost> hkr, all are stable de
[06:52] <hkr> Guess I'll stay with Xfce/i3.
[06:52] <hkr> Thanks
[06:52] <somsip> hkr: and, of course, all have bugs
[06:52] <mjayk> nps
[06:52] <mjayk> just try them out
[06:52] <mjayk> decide for yourself
[06:52] <hkr> i cant use dolphin completely in xubuntu since the desktop is thunar.
[06:52] <hkr> Any ideas ?
[06:53] <mjayk> remove thunar install dolphin
[06:53] <hkr> thats the only problem I haave with xfce. And i've tried out Gone2,3 , kde and LXDE
[06:53] <mbroeker> lorfds, do you need sudo access for your script?
[06:53] <hkr> mjayk, Desktop is still thunar after removing thunar and installing dolphin
[06:54] <mjayk> what do you mean desktop is thunar
[06:54] <mjayk> thunar is a filemanager
[06:54] <hkr> do you use xfce ? im no good at explaining stuff
[06:55] <hkr> Deskop icons and stuff is from thunar.
[06:55] <lorfds> mbroeker..hard to say....im running everything as root currently
[06:55] <hkr> If i only have dolphin, i cant make desktop folders or delete or copy ...
[06:55] <somsip> lorfds: well, the web server does not run as root (and nor should you be) so that's why it isn't working probably
[06:56] <mbroeker> lorfds, can you paste your script?
[06:56] <lorfds> it runs fine when i execute php myfile.php from the command line...its just the web server serves the page instantly when i go to it (it is web scraping...so it takes a little to return results)
[06:56] <lorfds> yeah i will paste it if i can't get it to work...still hacking on it
[06:57] <lorfds> just trying to see if i have missed something obvious righ tnow
[06:57] <mbroeker> lorfds, the apache2 is configured to give up after, say, 30 seconds. if a script runs longer, it dies
[06:57] <somsip> lorfds: probably max_execution_time which is limited in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini but unlimited in /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
[06:57] <lorfds> yeah, but its giving up after 1 second
[06:57] <somsip> lorfds: then paste it
[07:05] <demophobia> my hard drive failed the extended self-test
[07:05] <demophobia> does that mean it's time to replace it?
[07:06]  * demophobia reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#Self-tests
[07:06] <somsip> demophobia: it may be prudent
[07:06] <mbroeker> demophobia, i think so. reformat the drive and redo the self test. but in generall, do not trust a broken hdd :)
[07:07] <demophobia> after all that ...
[07:07] <demophobia> oh well. perhaps i learned something.
[07:07] <demophobia> thanks.
[07:19] <Guest56965> hi, I'm having a hard time installing ubuntu to a raid1. I created my array using mdadm prior to running the installer, and all went well. but at the end of the install, grub-install fails. It offers the option to install to md0 as well as sda and sdb, but they all fail with "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.This is a fatal error." How can I fix this?
[07:35] <lorfds> ok more info....php is returning this when i try to run shell_exec inside a script and access it via the browser: "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified Sorry, try again."
[07:35] <lorfds> how do i fix this errro?
[07:37] <somsip> lorfds: is the script running a command that requires sudo?
[07:39] <lorfds> well, one of the executables it is calling is owned by root
[07:40] <somsip> lorfds: many of them are. Doesn't mean they cannot be run by non-root. So, do any commands run by the script *require* sudo?
[07:40] <lorfds> sh: 1: /usr/local/bin/casperjs: Permission denied
[07:40] <lorfds> thats what happens without sudo
[07:41] <lorfds> so yes
[07:41] <lorfds> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Dec 28 00:07 casperjs -> /root/repositories/casperjs/bin/casperjs
[07:41] <lorfds> i haven't been able to change ownership of casperjs to another user
[07:41] <lorfds> not sure why...maybe its the symlink
[07:41] <somsip> lorfds: so when you run something without sudo, a message pops up asking for a password. It cannot do that if no TTY (terminal) is present. When PHP is running the script in the browser, no TTY is present. Hence the error
[07:41] <lorfds> if i chown www-data:www-data /root/repositories/casperjs/bin/casperjs nothing happens
[07:42] <M4dH4TT3r> numeratic?
[07:42] <somsip> lorfds: because if you do that (probably a bad idea) you need to chown -R to change the content and not just tghe directory
[07:43] <lorfds> I'm going to kill this vm anyway once I'm done...im just trying to get this working to start...then going to start over for real with actual security, etc
[07:43] <M4dH4TT3r> Run the following command; sudo tar --numeric-owner -axf manhattan-quantal-armhf-tar-20130221-1.tar.gz
[07:43] <M4dH4TT3r>  Run the following command; sudo rsync -aP binary/casper/filesystem.dir/ /INSERTPATHTOSDCARD/ubuntu/
[07:43] <somsip> lorfds: ignore him
[07:43] <M4dH4TT3r> :P
[07:43] <somsip> !helpful | M4dH4TT3r
[07:43] <M4dH4TT3r> what?
[07:44] <lorfds> M4dH4TT3r...that doesn't look malicious at all
[07:44] <M4dH4TT3r> malicious how?
[07:45] <somsip> lorfds: I don't quite understand what you're trying to achieve. casperjs is a node script tester yes? And you're trying to launch it from within a PHP script?
[07:45] <lorfds> I'm using it as a scraper
[07:45] <lorfds> this is a web service I'm running to do on demand scraping
[07:46] <lorfds> php is an intermediate to the casperjs script
[07:47] <r47d00m_> hello guys, I have a touchscreen laptop with Windows 8, the touchscreen works flawlessly, perfectly, out-of-the-box, multitouch, etc... I'm wondering if the experience would be the same on Ubuntu ?
[07:47] <somsip> lorfds: post ls -la /root/repositories/casperjs/bin/
[07:48] <somsip> r47d00m_: try a live CD/DVD/USB
[07:48] <hipitihop> can someone assist with hdmi no audio issue. I have a Myhtbuntu 12.04 machine which worked fine video/audio over hdmi to tv, but I tried to connect via an onkyo a/v receiver and now only have video, no audio
[07:49] <r47d00m_> I can't right now, but I want to know the experience from people here with touchscreens
[07:49] <lorfds> somsip... http://pastebin.com/Qzukj3cR
[07:49] <r47d00m_> and ubuntu
[07:49] <somsip> r47d00m_: ok, but this is a quiet time of day so you may wait a while
[07:49] <hipitihop> I have since disconnected hdmi from onkyo box, back to direct to tv, but now only video. Tried everything I know with mixer audio settings etc
[07:50] <eaglezero> ahaa
[07:50] <Hydr0p0nX> hipitihop, what chipset ?
[07:50] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, hmmm hold on will have to run lspci or the like to find out
[07:50] <somsip> lorfds: and the line of PHP that calls the casperjs script?
[07:51] <lorfds>   echo shell_exec("sudo /usr/local/bin/casperjs /var/www/ipdb_scraper/scraper/scraper.js --var=".$var." 2> /dev/null");
[07:51] <somsip> lorfds: so you still have the sudo in there...
[07:52] <lorfds> well, i have also removed it as well
[07:52] <lorfds> without it just says permission denied
[07:52] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, foes this look correct from lspci output or do I need to list something else: Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)
[07:52] <lorfds> with it i get that tty error
[07:52] <hipitihop> s/foes/does
[07:52] <Hydr0p0nX> i'm having problems with the mcp78
[07:52] <somsip> lorfds: and you're reporting different paths in here to the ones in the script.
[07:53] <somsip> lorfds: Of course you get a TTY error. I explained why
[07:53] <robcar> r47d00m_: I installed ubuntu on a Dell Vostro AIO with touchscreen: worked fine; only had a problem with suspend
[07:53] <lorfds> i know...so just saying I've tried with and wo sudo
[07:53] <Hydr0p0nX> does aplay -l shows the HDMI adapter?
[07:54] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, similar symptoms ? i.e. mine worked fine until I tried to take the hdmi which went to tv, instead plugged as hdmi input to onkyo and have since put back to original. box has been restarted etc too
[07:54] <Hydr0p0nX> no
[07:54] <Hydr0p0nX> mine only worked through hdmi after a number of unsupported changes
[07:55] <hipitihop> right, standby, running aplay over ssh
[07:56] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, play -l shows the hdmi as third HDA NVidia device HMDI 0
[07:57] <Hydr0p0nX> does speaker-test -d hw:0.3 work ?
[07:57] <uBUXUBu> odd behaviour in ubuntu software center -crashed-report sent-after crash i used software center and all the information listed in software center about available software was all blanked out with roguh lines drwan thru them like someone had taken a pencil and scrathed over them?? very bizarre..rebooted and its normal again....
[07:57] <uBUXUBu> rough*
[07:58] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, I can run that over my ssh session ? sorry, machine in another room
[07:59] <Hydr0p0nX> it might work
[08:03] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, nothing, but if i'm interpreting the terminal output porperly, then it looks like it is testing on device 0 subdev 0
[08:04] <Hydr0p0nX> should be card.device
[08:04] <Hydr0p0nX> mine is card0 device3
[08:04] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA NVidia' device 0 subdevice 0
[08:04] <Hydr0p0nX> 0.0 then
[08:06] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, still nothing and seems to still be teting same device
[08:07] <Hydr0p0nX> and none of the spdif devices are muted?
[08:07] <helmut__> i
[08:07] <helmut__> hi
[08:08] <hipitihop> spdif is related to hdmi ?
[08:08] <Hydr0p0nX> it is on mine
[08:08] <hipitihop> can I tell from cli ?
[08:08] <Hydr0p0nX> alsamixer
[08:08] <hipitihop> machine in other is pita
[08:09] <Hydr0p0nX> just make sure they all of the outputs are unmuted
[08:17] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, ok I see s/pdif , s/pdif default PCM, s/pdif 1 all at 0 but don't respond to increasing volumne
[08:18] <Hydr0p0nX> none of them say MM, right ?
[08:18] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, one did, but used 'M' to unmute now 00
[08:18] <Hydr0p0nX> retry speaker-test
[08:18] <hipitihop> I also see <Auto-Mute> enabled buit not sure if significant
[08:18] <Hydr0p0nX> I usually turn it off
[08:19] <Hydr0p0nX> select it and press down arrow to do so
[08:21] <hipitihop> still nothing from speaker test, but I'm not confident it is testign correct device
[08:24] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, is there a definitive way to list correct list of device names I should be using ?
[08:24] <Hydr0p0nX> aplay -L will list every card and device seen
[08:29] <linuxlite> i have a canon ip1980 printer. i cant make it print my document
[08:29] <mrperfects> hi,,,
[08:30] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, ok speaker-test -D plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 produced output, just testing others listed
[08:32] <linuxlite> i have a canon ip1980 printer. i cant make it print my document
[08:32] <WebLynx> hi everyone. just testing 13.10 dist
[08:33] <somsip> !test | WebLynx
[08:33] <WebLynx> has enyone problem with start ubuntustudio after installing?
[08:33] <Danato> How do I save my wifi password permanently? ubuntu keeps asking me to enter my password whenever i boot, and I ddnt set it to ask me every time
[08:34] <x_> hello Im really worried with something has happened me this morning
[08:34] <MarkDavies> Hi
[08:35] <x_> I just sleep the computer yesterday and this morning I found this on screen (the computer was almost frozen ):
[08:35] <WebLynx> Donato, you always boot from live dvd or after installing?
[08:35] <MarkDavies> What does "offshore support" mean?
[08:35] <x_> http://postimg.org/image/egxvfwizh/
[08:36] <x_> why there is something keyloging what I made ?
[08:36] <Danato> WebLynx, I have ubuntu installed, its not a live cd/usb
[08:36] <aeon-ltd> x_: that's looks like your terminal input history
[08:37] <x_> nope, there is almost all my strokes on a X session
[08:37] <aeon-ltd> x_: though, why the hell would you type fantazero in a terminal
[08:37] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, speaker test only works on -D plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 so should I do standard test for audio now ?
[08:37] <x_> isnt a terminal , the only on terminal is ifconfig
[08:38] <x_> thats was an old msdos game made for me
[08:38] <x_> i just was installed dosbox
[08:38] <x_> then I mount some truecrypt volume, then go to sleep
[08:39] <x_> i sleep the computer and taking it back, i found this on screen without touch nothing
[08:39] <x_> why there is logging or whatever can be this of everything i made on x ????
[08:40] <x_> was been so great get something more of this , but only was working the terminals of functions keys
[08:40] <x_> no x11, no nothing
[08:40] <x_> only this, can someone tell me why could happen this ?
[08:41] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, awesome, now I have audio ... many many thanks. So repluging the hdmi cables has caused these audio settings to change ? i.e. muted outputs ?
[08:41] <x_> i know there is forms of get keystrokes with xtest or something else
[08:43] <linuxlite> i have a canon ip1980 printer. i cant make it print my document
[08:45] <HumbertHumbert> ..
[08:47] <hipitihop> Hydr0p0nX, back in 15, maybe you can also sort out my hdmi overscan/res too high when going through onkyo
[08:50] <linuxlite> hello
[08:50] <linuxlite> anyone
[08:51] <linuxlite> i have a canon ip1980 printer. i cant make it print my document
[08:51] <linuxlite> i use 64 bit
[08:53] <pikaren> are mint users welcomed here?
[08:54] <uBUXUBu> of course
[08:54] <SaberX01> everyone is welcome
[08:55] <SaberX01> support however, is focused on Ubuntu :-)
[08:55] <elias_> and solaris
[08:56] <somsip> !mint | pikaren
[08:56] <uBUXUBu> linuxlite, There’s a ppa repository that provides the official drivers of Canon printers and multifunction devices which are not available on Canon’s website.
[08:58] <pikaren> !mint
[08:58] <uBUXUBu> your particular printer does not seem ot be listed but i suppose it wouldnt hurt to try this :   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon-stable
[08:58] <linuxlite> where are those 32 bit drivers doesnt work for me
[08:58] <linuxlite> uBUXUBu where can i get them?
[08:58] <pikaren> hello > pikaren
[08:58] <MarkDavies> I've installed a printer with the drivers provided by the vendor. Should I run a daemon in order to have the printer working?
[08:58] <MarkDavies> If so, what is the name of this daemon?
[08:58] <uBUXUBu> look a couple lines above linuxlite
[08:59] <uBUXUBu> and ill post the site i am now reading...http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/canon-drivers-for-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/
[08:59] <pikaren> except the desktop environment, what are the differences between ubuntu and mint?
[08:59] <uBUXUBu> if ur lucky maybe a driver works even though i do not see your specific printer listed
[09:00] <linuxlite> im using 64 bit. will this work?
[09:00] <linuxlite> im trying
[09:00] <uBUXUBu> i dont know linuxlite as i said i dont see your specific printer
[09:00] <linuxlite> wish me luck. hehehe
[09:01] <linuxlite> uBUXUBu that's ok
[09:01] <uBUXUBu> maybe canon of a driver thats close enough
[09:01] <uBUXUBu> maybe canon know which one is sloe*
[09:01] <uBUXUBu> close*
[09:02]  * uBUXUBu kneels and looks towards the heavens....
[09:05] <glambert_> Hi, I created an iso from my dvd via "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/myfile.iso" but how do I mount that iso now?
[09:07] <Danato> How do I save my wifi password permanently? ubuntu keeps asking me to enter my password whenever i boot, and I ddnt set it to ask me every time
[09:07] <mbroeker> glambert, sudo mount -t udf -o loop /home/<user>/myfile.iso /mnt/cdrom
[09:07] <glambert_> mbroeker, I get a wrong fs type
[09:08] <mbroeker> glambert, try -t iso9660 instead of udf
[09:08] <glambert_> same, already tried it
[09:08] <glambert_> only one that worked was sysfs
[09:09] <glambert_> if I run "file ~/myfile.iso" it just says "data"?
[09:09] <SaberX01> Danato, are you using Unity Desktop ?
[09:10] <ese6> anyone ever used pennmush?
[09:15] <MarkDavies> lpstat -p -d gives "printer DCP150C is idle. (...) Waiting for printer to become available". What does it mean?
[09:16] <MarkDavies> Why doesn't the printer work?
[09:18] <ikonia> MarkDavies: normally poor linux support
[09:19] <MarkDavies> ikonia: yes, but it once worked
[09:19] <MarkDavies> and still, support is poor or not, the messages are meaningful, aren't they?
[09:20] <MarkDavies> I have found that: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-590793-p-2.html
[09:20] <MarkDavies> but I don't really understand what the responding guy is talking about.
[09:20] <ikonia> MarkDavies: the messages are meaningful - your printer is not online/available
[09:21] <MarkDavies> ikonia: but it is listed on the USB list
[09:21] <ikonia> MarkDavies: that doesn't mean anything, that just means it's plugged into a usb port
[09:22] <MarkDavies> so why isn't the printer available, even though I've installed the drivers for it?
[09:23] <pratz> Hello guys
[09:23] <pratz> I have a external hard disk
[09:23] <pratz> Is is safe to keep the external hard disk connected all time ?
[09:24] <ikonia> MarkDavies: poor linux support ?
[09:25] <Danato> SaberX01: sorry for the late reply, yes I'm using unity
[09:25] <MarkDavies> sorry, but it doesn't make sense. I've once managed to make this printer working. Now, it doesn't work for unknown, unclear reasons.
[09:25] <SaberX01> pratz, Yes, it's no more or less safe than you internal drives.
[09:25] <clypso> Does this support go for terminal based commands? Not relating to ubuntu specifically but to terminal commands in general. Or is there a better channel for me to go to ?
[09:25] <ikonia> MarkDavies: it does make sense, if your printer has bad linux support (as I know yours does) it will fail to work at random times/points due to it not being able to communicate with the OS properly
[09:25] <pratz> SaberX01: ok, here comes my main question
[09:26] <pratz> SaberX01: some time ubuntu detects it and some times it does not detect it
[09:26] <pratz> I am running 12.04
[09:26] <MarkDavies> ikonia: I managed to establish the connection between the printer and the computer by installing the Ubuntu drivers. But then the data wasn't printed, just the printer accepted it, and that was all.
[09:26] <pratz> when it does not detect it, I replug it again
[09:26] <ikonia> MarkDavies as I said "poor linux support"
[09:26] <SaberX01> Danato, you should be able to right click the network manager icon, Edit Connections, Wireless, Edit then Wireless Security .. you shoudl be able to enter your Wireless PW there.
[09:27] <MarkDavies> ikonia: it wouldn't be so bad, except for the fact that it seems to have "poor windows support" from some time, as well. The system just refuses it to be installed.
[09:27] <clypso> Does this support go for terminal based commands? Not relating to ubuntu specifically but to terminal commands in general. Or is there a better channel for me to go to ?
[09:27] <MarkDavies> clypso: what do you want?
[09:27] <clypso> Im cerious on the difference between dir and ls
[09:28] <MarkDavies> just check man dir
[09:28] <MarkDavies> man ls
[09:28] <uBUXUBu> they want us to buy new printers all the time
[09:28] <MarkDavies> but I suppose that ls is more standard in Unix environments, clypso
[09:28] <Danato> SaberX01: its already filled in, and I ddnt tick the "Ask for password every time" option, but it still asks me for the password every time I boot up
[09:29] <MarkDavies> to be honest, before you asked you question, I wasn't even aware that there is such a command like "dir", clypso
[09:29] <MarkDavies> uBUXUBu: do you suggest that it was programmed so it would spoil itself at some point of time?
[09:29] <clypso> Yes. Well i know about cmd commands thru windows. So by playing around with it i noticed dir worked lol
[09:29] <SaberX01> Danato, did you select available to all users on the edit screen ?
[09:30] <pratz> SaberX01: ??
[09:30] <clypso> I wasnt sure if this was a ubuntu thing or if i just had a good ol flat unix shell i was working with would it come up ?
[09:30] <uBUXUBu> no i just think printer copmanies dont bother to keep updating drivers
[09:30] <Danato> SaberX01: yes
[09:30] <clypso> probably ls is just for linux and dir is something ubuntu added for the window friendly users
[09:30] <uBUXUBu> i recently called HP on this subject and they more or less told me that...
[09:30] <SaberX01> pratz, Im not sure what would cause an intermittent connection, you could, if your well vers in UDEV rules, set a persistent rule for the device, but that's pretty advanced stuff.
[09:31] <MarkDavies> uBUXUBu: did you have similar problem as mine?
[09:31] <clypso> Alright markdavies. I appreciate your help anyhow =p
[09:31] <clypso> Does anyone know a good channel for unix ?
[09:32] <uBUXUBu> well actually i did but it was w7 and my hp deskjet 694 so i removed w7 installed ubuntu 1204 and it works perfect
[09:32] <uBUXUBu> 6940*
[09:32] <meteor42> Has anyone experience with pico2wave ?
[09:32] <uBUXUBu> so i called hp and they said hey its an older printer so....like that...i tore them a new pie hole
[09:33] <SaberX01> Danato, selecting all users normally fixes it, but there was a big on this at one time: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/854833
[09:33] <SaberX01> *bug
[09:33] <uBUXUBu> later of found out they have some universal driver that might work
[09:34] <uBUXUBu> if i have to chase around lookin for drivers somebodys gon na get a call from me
[09:36] <SaberX01> pratz, This is not easy. I've done it for a USB to Serial but it's tricky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[09:45] <JackWarScout> Morning ;)
[09:45] <gordonjcp> morning
[09:46] <JackWarScout> cano u help me?
[09:46] <JackWarScout> *can
[09:46] <JackWarScout> pls
[09:47] <clypso> Ok
[09:47] <SaberX01> !ask | JackWarScout
[09:47] <JackWarScout> right!
[09:47] <clypso> Who was i just chatting with privately a moment ago that was helping me ?
[09:47] <clypso> System crashed sort of crashed on me. lost who it was
[09:47] <Rory> !pm | clypso this is why it's best to keep stuff in the main channel
[09:48] <JackWarScout> !ask r
[09:48] <clypso> !pm rory
[09:48] <MarkDavies> clypso: I
[09:49] <JackWarScout> !ask | how to make install  QUALCOMM ATHEROS AR9285 driver?
[09:50] <MarkDavies> what is better
[09:50] <MarkDavies> purge or deinstall (dpkg)?
[09:50] <thom_r> remove
[09:51] <borosky> !patience
[09:53] <marshmn> MarkDavies: I think that they do different things - I'm not sure that one is 'better' than the other; I tend to do 'dpkg -P <package>' which removes the package and any associated configuration (ie. purge)
[09:53] <marshmn> MarkDavies: but it depends what you are wanting to do
[09:54] <SaberX01> MarkDavies, purge is apt, it removes the target package and purges deps no longer in use. I normally use remove --purge. Is it better, matter of personal preference I think.
[09:55] <MarkDavies> SaberX01: isn't it possible to destroy files of another application with purge?
[09:55] <MarkDavies> I mean shared configuration files.
[09:55] <marshmn> SaberX01: that's not quite true - dpkg also has -P which is purge and means that a package and any config will be removed
[09:55] <SaberX01> MarkDavies, normally no, it's generally safe to use, unless you have broken deps.
[09:56] <marshmn> 'purge' on dpkg and with APT are two different things
[09:56] <marshmn> so you need to be careful of the differences
[09:56] <marshmn> the man pages should help
[09:56] <SaberX01> marshmn, I didn't mention dpkg, different tool & capabilities.
[09:57] <marshmn> SaberX01: sure - just poingint it out since the original question was for dpkg
[09:58] <SaberX01> marshmn, bit of both I think, I suppose with purge being in both :-) .. I try to stick with one method .. normally apt unless I need search or pkg selection stuff.
[09:59] <n1n0> any good link for lan with 2 ubuntu computers for file sharing? xp and ubuntu was ok, but 2 ubuntu doesn't work.
[10:01] <MarkDavies> Does rebooting after installation/deinstallation of packages make sense in Ubuntu?
[10:02] <Rory> Not generally MarkDavies , only if they are new drivers or something like that
[10:02] <SaberX01> n1n0, Samba, SSHFS, NFS, I can go dig up the links but those all work pretty well for that.
[10:02] <MarkDavies> Rory: I mant that
[10:02] <Rory> MarkDavies: If you're concerned about programs still being open and wanting to be sure you've restared them for the upgrade to have properly taken effect, you might as well just log out and in again
[10:02] <Rory> MarkDavies: Yes, for new kernel versions and, for example, the nvidia driver, it's easiest to reboot
[10:03] <MarkDavies> so it is for printer drivers, probably
[10:03] <Rory> MarkDavies: probably not
[10:03] <Rory> MarkDavies: You could just restart cups: sudo service cups restart
[10:04] <n1n0> SaberX01 thank you
[10:04] <SaberX01> n1n0, Samba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba  .. SSHFS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS ... NFS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[10:05] <SaberX01> n1n0, ham call ?? de KI7MT
[10:06] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: gm de mm0yeq
[10:06] <SaberX01> GM
[10:07] <SaberX01> OT but tonight be 160m Stew Perry Contest :-)
[10:07] <gordonjcp> qsy #u-ot
[10:07] <gordonjcp> ;-)
[10:07] <gordonjcp> I don't think I've got anything that'll do 160m
[10:08] <gordonjcp> well, I could do CW by keying my signal genny, and receive it with... *something*
[10:08]  * gordonjcp handwaves
[10:08] <gordonjcp> cobble together a Top Band direct conversion receiver
[10:08] <SaberX01> I got a cloud warmer, that's about it, Im happy to work JA's :-)
[10:09] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: I really haven't played with top band
[10:09] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: the workshop manager where I work is an amateur, and used to know an old guy in Glasgow whose garden backed onto the Forth and Clyde canal
[10:10] <gordonjcp> now
[10:10] <SaberX01> next 10yrs gonna be great .. we better stay On Topic :-)
[10:10] <gordonjcp> along the line of the canal was a mile or two of diused telephone line...
[10:10] <gordonjcp> *disused
[10:10] <gordonjcp> oh yeah, load that sucker up on 160 ;-)
[10:10] <SaberX01> Spent 6yrs in Holy Loch :-) .. Know the Clyde very well.
[10:13] <MarkDavies> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590793&page=37
[10:13] <MarkDavies> how does he know that he needs the MFC -210C driver?
[10:14] <MarkDavies> Where can I find the compability list?
[10:15] <TJ-> MarkDavies: Generally, when adding a printer, there is an option to choose your printer's exact model... which leads to the name of the actual driver for it (often-times a single driver supports many model variations)
[10:23] <raffo> hi
[10:23] <gry> hello :)
[10:23] <bibi234> hi, on the terminal, how can I copy a long line from a file, when I open it with nano, and i try to select the line with the mouse and copy, I can only select the visible part.
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> bibi234  i guess you have to zdd slashes for spaces... or maybe try to put the line between quotes
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> add*
[10:26] <TJ-> bibi234: If you're working with a text file you'd be best opening the file with a GUI text editor instead
[10:27] <TJ-> bibi234: Assuming your intention is to copy to the clipboard; the other method would be to use something other than 'nano' to display the line(s) you want to copy, such as 'grep'
[10:27] <bibi234> Tj- : I can't do this because it's not on my computer, I've opened a terminal to setup a ssh connection to a ubuntu server machine with no gui
[10:27] <SaberX01> bibi234, man nano, see Ctrl +G  for options, but Select: ALT + M + A  Copy: ALT + 6 Paste: CTRL + U  the 6 is line 6 etc etc
[10:28] <TJ-> bibi234: Do you wish to copy the text into the local system's clipboard, or into the remote system's 'nano' text buffer?
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> bibi234  and what line is it, you want to copy paste?
[10:29] <TJ-> bibi234: I think grep will be easiest. E.g. if you know the line(s) you want contain "dead fox" you can simply do "grep 'dead fox' /path/to/text.file"
[10:30] <bibi234> TJ- : I've managed to do this with grep as you said, I was trying to get the build command for PHP "php -i | grep "Configure Command", but it's a lucky shot :) , if they were multiple lines similar I would have been stucked, anyway thx for your help
[10:30] <zamnuts> mirror/apt question (i haven't used ubuntu since dapper/edgy days), i've been swearing at apt-get for the past few hours, i've tried several west-coast to central mirrors, and apt-get update is just so slow (hangs for minutes at a time)... any insight?
[10:31] <zamnuts> when it isn't hanging, it flies (1-3 megabytes/sec), but these waiting for headers and other misc hangs are annoying
[10:31] <TJ-> bibi234: Yes... you can write more complex text selectors by piping output from one process to another, too for example: "grep 'dead fox' /path/to/text.file | grep 'did not jump over'
[10:32] <SaberX01> bibi234, u can use awk as well to grab specific line numbers.
[10:32] <TJ-> zamnuts: Sounds very much like you have a bad route between you and other locations... try doing a "tracepath xxxx.archive.ubuntu.com" and look for problematic routers being reported
[10:34] <zamnuts> TJ-, will check ty
[10:35] <TJ-> SaberX01: bibi234: for line number ranges, 'sed' would be a better choice.  Please pastebin the result
[10:42] <TJ-> bibi234: As an example of how *bad* piped text processing commands can be, take a look at this I wrote last night for helping a server admin trying to resolve a CPU lockup issue, It figures out which drivers handle which bits of hardware, without allowing the system to actually probe for any drivers:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6648944/
[10:43] <tim167> hello, when i install applications in ubuntu, it sets the interface in the wrong language (German, while my Locale is set to English), how do I fix this?
[10:43] <gdi2k> hi, I installed LTSP afresh to try out fat clients. now I am having trouble chrooting: sudo ltsp-chroot -c -p leads to chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory
[10:43] <zamnuts> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/fFbWFAym gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> FYI
[10:44] <gdi2k> (sorry, wrong channel)
[10:45] <zamnuts> TJ-, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is not occupied (<IP_ADDRESS>/24 is the only dhcp block)
[10:45] <cevarief> Hi, how to turn off nvidia VGA card? my laptop is using 2 vga, i giess i'm enough using intel vga and want to disable nvidia.
[10:46] <TJ-> zamnuts: The routing table looks OK as far as it goes, is <IP_ADDRESS> configured correctly for forwarding? If so, I'd suspect an ISP router close to you since your problems seem to affect several target servers in different locations (which would imply different hops the further away they are from you)
[10:47] <SaberX01> tim167, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[10:47] <zamnuts> TJ-, the gateway is correctly configured i have upwards of 40 active hosts (static and dhcp), win/android/centos, this is the first ubuntu host that i have configured for a static IP
[10:48] <zamnuts> TJ-, i just figured i was missing something in my network config that might be specific to ubuntu, the kernel routing table (`route`) doesn't look good based on what i'm used to (win/rhel)
[10:48] <TJ-> zamnuts: Could the problem be name resolution (DNS) rather than routing? That can be a common issue with static configurations
[10:49] <bibi234> TJ- : you're crazy aha! Those are regular expressions right? I know a little bit about them, but the previous one you gave me about grabbing specific(s) line isn't a regular expression no? eg. "sed -n '2 p' file" (to get the second line), I've never seen this syntax for regular expressions
[10:49] <win5hit> hi there! I've got a fresh installed ubuntu 13.10 Server virtual machine. upon start i only get ipv6 addresses no ipv4... any idea? If i execute 'dhclient eth0' I've got a dhcp lease within fractals of a second and the interface is good to go....
[10:49] <TJ-> bibi234: Yeah, I had to use 'sed' to transpose the captured text into a shell script that defines environment variables, then include that file, and use the variable values to format the output
[10:49] <zamnuts> TJ-, `cat /etc/resolv.conf` yield "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" which is correct, don't think it is a DNS issue, especially since tracepathing an IP is borked
[10:50] <SaberX01> bibi234, technically, tho Im def not a sed expert, it's not regex: http://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/html_node/Regular-Expressions.html
[10:50] <TJ-> bibi234: The "sed -n" says don't display lines by default. The '5,10' says select lines 5 through 10, and the " p" says print those lines. End result = you see only lines 5-10
[10:52] <win5hit> no idea why i don't get ipv4 lease upon boot?
[10:52] <zamnuts> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/4wYa8E0Y is the config for /etc/network/interfaces ...maybe a second set of eyes might help
[10:52] <TJ-> bibi234: You could add in regexp to that expression such as "sed -n '5,10 {/dead fox/ p}' "
[10:53] <zamnuts> win5hit, `auto eth0` in your network interfaces configuration?
[10:53] <SaberX01> TJ-, bibi234 I need to work more wiht sed, but them long sed strings make my head spin .. lol ..
[10:54] <TJ-> zamnuts: You need to add a "dns-nameservers <IP address>" to the eth0 stanza
[10:54] <win5hit> zamnuts: good question. didn't change anything so far. just finished installing... thought it should be in there... as during the setup dhcp4 was successful
[10:54] <TJ-> SaberX01: me too! I build them bit by bit
[10:55] <win5hit> auto eth0 /CR /LF iface eth0 inet6 auto
[10:55] <zamnuts> TJ-, link to doc? can't seem to find anything official (or am i asking to much?)
[10:55] <TJ-> zamnuts: See "man resolvconf" and search for it using "/dns-nameservers"
[10:56] <zamnuts> TJ-, s/to much/too much/
[10:56] <zamnuts> TJ-, duh. thanks.
[10:56] <TJ-> zamnuts: It's in the "ifup" section of that man-page
[10:56] <ultidesp> hi, every body. Using dmesg I got some ACPI errors like this "No handler for Region [ECOR] (ffff88022335cc18)", "Region EmbeddedControl (ID=3) has no handler". But my laptop works well. Should I take these errors as big matters?
[10:57] <zamnuts> TJ-, yes it is, found it, ty again
[10:57] <bibi234> TJ- : hum I'll take a look at the documentation, it looks like special expressions, to me regular expressions were like '/[a-z0-9](.*)/', I had never heard about line numbers and so
[10:57] <linuxlite> hello
[10:57] <linuxlite> how to resset eeprom for canon ip1980
[10:57] <linuxlite> anyone here knows canon ip1980 eeprom resetter for ubuntu
[10:57] <win5hit> ok so the ubuntu installer decided i don't need ipv4, as i have a working IPv6 configuration... not too smart...
[10:57] <TJ-> bibi234: Yes, I just used 'address ranges' which can be line numbers like '5,10' or regexps like '/start/,/end/'
[10:57] <zamnuts> bibi234, TJ-'s example is specific to sed, sed is a beast, built on top of general regex (extended regex, etc.)
[10:59] <win5hit> is this a feature?(or a known bug) ;)
[10:59] <TJ-> win5hit: Are you using Network Manager's applet to configure the interface?
[11:00] <zamnuts> TJ-, you were right about the kernel routing, i forgot to use route -n initially, i'm seeing the proper gateway in there
[11:00] <win5hit> this is the gui thing right? nope it's console only
[11:00] <thom_r> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IPv6
[11:00] <zamnuts> TJ-, also updated the DNS, still can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> nor tracepath google's IP meh. can't even tracert from my laptop to the host, what on earth...
[11:00] <ultidesp> I got some acpi errors while booting, but my laptop works well. How can I fix this? The errors are something like "No handler for Region [ECOR] (ffff88022335cc18)". Any help will be appreciated.
[11:01] <TJ-> OK, so the system is a server or terminal-only, which means networking defined in /etc/network/interfaces, correct?
[11:01] <win5hit> TJ yes
[11:01] <bibi234> so for example on this example "sed -n '5,10 {/dead fox/ p}' ", the regular expression is only on this placeholder "/dead fox/" right?
[11:01] <TJ-> zamnuts: Sounds like some significant issue somewhere ... firewall per-chance?
[11:01] <SaberX01> ultidesp, after a bit of searching that appears to be som sort of thermal control (fan speed), are you seeing any heat issues ? If not, then Id' say no, but if you are, may want to dig into that a bit more.
[11:02] <zamnuts> TJ-, the system is a fresh install of ubuntu server x86_64 latest non-LTS version, firewall perhaps... ufw in ubuntu, right?
[11:02] <TJ-> bibi234: Yes "/dead fox/" is the regexp, but in my example it only contains literal characters
[11:02] <win5hit> i already got v4 working just needed on more line: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[11:02] <TJ-> zamnuts: Do a quick manual check with "sudo iptables -nvL" make sure the default policies aren't DROP, if if they are, that other rules enable the traffic
[11:03] <zamnuts> TJ-, ufw status is inactive, iptables -L has empty chains
[11:03] <ultidesp> SaberX01: no heat issues. It seems every things is OK. strange.
[11:03] <zamnuts> TJ-, confirmed with -nv switches, no DROPs
[11:03] <TJ-> zamnuts: OK, so you're back to routing! Check those IPs
[11:03] <TJ-> win5hit: So you've fixed it now?
[11:04] <win5hit> yes
[11:04] <SaberX01> ultidesp, is may be trying to adjust the speed, and can't, so if the speed is ok, then probably not an issue. But I'd keep an eye on it to be safe.
[11:04] <TJ-> zamnuts: Can you ping the default gateway (<IP_ADDRESS>) ?
[11:04] <win5hit> only needed one more line, as written above. but i was wondering that you have to do that... the installer only took the v6 config to the /etc/network/interfaces
[11:04] <TJ-> zamnuts: Could the gateway be dropping the packets in its firewall?
[11:04] <zamnuts> TJ-, nope, i AM ssh'd in tho
[11:04] <zamnuts> TJ-, the gateway doesn't drop ICMP.
[11:05] <zamnuts> TJ-, there is a specific rule to say so :)
[11:05] <TJ-> win5hit: That does sound a bit unfriendly; possibly post a bug against ubiquity (the GUI installer) or d-i (debian-installer)  about it
[11:05] <zamnuts> TJ-, can't ping the gateway
[11:05] <ultidesp> SaberX01: the fan works well. And 13.10 seems better than 13.04, my laptop is cooler. But the only thing looks not normal is the fan speed can not show  by using "sensors" command. Thx very much . I will keep an eye on it.
[11:05] <TJ-> zamnuts: Is this a wired or wireless interface?
[11:06] <TJ-> I assume wired but sometimes.... interface names get munged by udev rules
[11:06] <zamnuts> TJ-, i can ping the ubuntu server (<IP_ADDRESS>) from my laptop (same network, dhcp'd tho), and can ping back, FYI
[11:06] <TJ-> zamnuts: does "ifconfig eth0" show error counts or anything? Do the Tx/Rx counts increase?
[11:07] <zamnuts> TJ-, server is wired (shares the same switch with other working hosts), my laptop is wireless (but works just fine on other hosts)
[11:07] <TJ-> zamnuts: But <IP_ADDRESS> is the IP of eth0 on that system, so you would be able to ping it.
[11:07] <marcuspbaird> howdy
[11:07] <zamnuts> TJ-, yea receive/transmit bytes are increasing
[11:07] <SaberX01> Hello
[11:07] <marcuspbaird> lol
[11:07] <zamnuts> TJ-, when pinging... even tho i don't get a response
[11:07] <marcuspbaird> by linuxlite
[11:07] <TJ-> zamnuts: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ... I suspect there is an error
[11:09] <marcuspbaird> why are linux lite users coming here I wounder
[11:09] <TJ-> zamnuts: no matter, I found the link you posted for it
[11:10] <SaberX01> marcuspbaird, how that relates to ubuntu support I do not know, but LL users could probably answer that ques for you :-)
[11:10] <TJ-> zamnuts: OK, so eth0 has <IP_ADDRESS>, the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>, and you can't ping the gateway?
[11:11] <zamnuts> TJ-, more diagnostics (with an updated interfaces config): http://pastebin.com/ZqrJyvYe
[11:11] <zamnuts> TJ-, correct, cannot ping the gateway, nor outside hosts, but CAN ping other hosts on the subnet
[11:12] <marcuspbaird> lol I don't get on to well with valtan happy to help out the liux lite users though on his distro
[11:12] <zamnuts> TJ-, to confirm i am ABLE to ping the gateway from other hosts on the subnet
[11:12] <zamnuts> TJ-, in the interim, thanks for the help so far
[11:12] <SaberX01> Why is it a 5.10 IP in 1.1 subrange ?
[11:13] <zamnuts> SaberX01, my netmask is a /16, just a way of categorizing stuff on our (small) network
[11:13] <SaberX01> Ahh ok
[11:13] <zamnuts> SaberX01, .1.x is all dhcp, .0.x is all infrastructure, .5.x is all temp stuff
[11:15] <asso1992> hi
[11:15] <waperboy> Thinking of using fdupes command for the PlayOnLinux 'windows' folders to hardlink all duplicate files, since all the wineprefix folders have many duplicate files, would this be safe to do?
[11:19] <SaberX01> waperboy,  probably a question for #playonlinux
[11:20] <bahamas> anyone know where kindle reader stores its files when downloaded for offline reading?
[11:20] <TJ-> zamnuts: That output shows a ping <IP_ADDRESS> is good... how about a ping to the default gateway? If that fails then I'd check out the gateway settings.
[11:20] <waperboy> SaberX01, not really, I'm more concerned about hardlinks in general I think
[11:20] <TJ-> zamnuts: Is this PC directly wired to the gateway, or with some switch? If a switch, is it managed or unmanaged?
[11:21] <zamnuts> switch (2 actually), unmanaged
[11:21] <zamnuts> TJ-, ^
[11:22] <TJ-> zamnuts: I'd deploy tcpdump now on the host and the gateway to see what packets are doing
[11:22] <TJ-> zamnuts: "sudo tcpdump -ni eth0 icmp and host <IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:22] <zamnuts> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/tRp3tkfU
[11:23] <zamnuts> TJ-, meh, i was hoping it wouldn't come to that... ok :P
[11:23] <TJ-> zamnuts: The switches are cascaded?
[11:23] <zamnuts> TJ-, i was looking for a "oh dude... u missed a ____ directive in ____"
[11:24] <zamnuts> TJ-, yes... for now
[11:24] <zamnuts> TJ-, ugly, i know, the physical topology is being refactored, and right now i'm in a lull, coincidentally i'm having this problem you're helping me troubleshoot
[11:25] <TJ-> zamnuts: I'm just thinking... if you've got PC > SW1 > SW2 >GW ... how will ARP be handled when PC says "who has <IP_ADDRESS>" ? will the switches figure it out?
[11:25] <TJ-> zamnuts: assuming they're layer-2 switches
[11:26] <TJ-> zamnuts: easy way to test that - wire directly from PC to SW2 (the switch connected to the GW)
[11:27] <zamnuts> TJ-, great question. (thinking)
[11:28] <zamnuts> TJ-, will test... should have a long enough cat5 around here somewhere....
[11:28] <zamnuts> TJ-, FYI i have 2 other physical hosts on the cascaded switch config (each with 4 VMs) and they're running just peachy.
[11:32] <zamnuts> TJ-, ok got it bypassing the second switch, still getting 100% packet loss on pings
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !info etherape | zamnuts
[11:32] <hyutyi> hi
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> hyutyi: hello, what can we do for you?
[11:33] <hyutyi> UEFI is unable to set ubuntu as a priority boot entry
[11:33] <TJ-> zamnuts: OK, so I'm starting to wonder about a bad physical connection, although that doesn't explain the ping to <IP_ADDRESS> working, unless the problem is a flakey switch port
[11:33] <zamnuts> lotuspsychje, etherape sounds good... does it require GUI? i'm running CLI
[11:33] <TJ-> zamnuts: could that PC be preferring IPv6 over IPv4 ?
[11:33] <hyutyi> i have: HDD, USB flash, CD-Rom options
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> zamnuts: oh yes it needs gui, sorry
[11:34] <SaberX01> That's what I was thinking too .. bad NIC .. SW port not likely now that he's on the other switch.
[11:34] <TJ-> zamnuts: The ping argues against an IPv6 issue
[11:34] <zamnuts> TJ-, not running IPv6 on the local net (unless it could be confused?)
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> hyutyi: did you disable secureboot in bios?
[11:34] <zamnuts> lotuspsychje, np, thanks for the suggestion tho :)
[11:35] <TJ-> zamnuts: I'd like to see the tcpdump from the GW when the PC is pinging it... this could be down to a bad routing table on the GW. can you pastebin the GW's "ip route ls"
[11:35] <zamnuts> TJ-, the bad physical connection could only be on the host itself, but yea, doesn't make sense when the comms with other hosts on the network are fine
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | hyutyi
[11:35] <hyutyi> I have to press F9 ->> ubuntu (HP-XXXX). There is another option called "Ubuntu" but it boots W8
[11:35] <TJ-> zamnuts: Because if you've not defined the route on the GW as a /16 this would be an expected result
[11:35] <zamnuts> TJ-, gateway is a cisco asa... don't have the luxury of ip route ls, but i'll get you the routing table, hang on
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> hyutyi: you want a dualboot or single boot ubuntu?
[11:36] <hyutyi> Legacy enbled (SB disabled)
[11:36] <zamnuts> TJ-, oh the route on the GW is /16, but i will check. (i've had previous 172.16.5.x hosts before)
[11:36] <TJ-> zamnuts: The ping <IP_ADDRESS> would work if that host is directly reached via the switches
[11:36] <hyutyi> dual boot
[11:36] <zamnuts> TJ-, yes it (was) directly reached via switches
[11:37] <TJ-> zamnuts: can you mirror the switch port on the ASA to another port and capture it with tcpdump on another host to analyse it?
[11:37] <zamnuts> TJ-, it is now hooked up to cisco appliance directly (single VLAN, so no complexities there)
[11:37] <TJ-> zamnuts: What we need to see, is what packets are reaching the GW's ethernet interface.
[11:37] <zamnuts> ok
[11:37] <zamnuts> TJ-, ^ (ok)
[11:38] <TJ-> zamnuts: I'm looking for the packets arriving from PC but not being replied to, either because of a route or firewall rule
[11:38] <zamnuts> TJ-, wilco
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> hyutyi: not sure mate, try the uefi url i triggered to you
[11:40] <zamnuts> TJ-, FYI, i'm seeing the ubuntu host (5.10) on the ASA's ARP table
[11:40] <zamnuts> TJ-, MAC is a match
[11:40] <TJ-> zamnuts: Which argues that the ASA is the culprit, not replying
[11:42] <zamnuts> TJ-, sorry, i don't follow
[11:44] <hyutyi> I cannot set ubuntu (HP-(numbers)) on BIOS setup because that option is not available. However, if I try Esc+F9 (Boot selection) ubuntu option appears. Annoying.
[11:44] <TJ-> zamnuts: If the ASA 'know's about the PC via it's ARP table then it must be receiving packets... but it is not replying to them
[11:44] <hyutyi> I lost my connection again
[11:44] <zamnuts> TJ-, route table on ASA: http://pastebin.com/pkExGYqr
[11:44] <hyutyi> BIOS Firmware is also updated
[11:45] <zamnuts> TJ-, that is true, unless the ASA is replying, but the reply is being lost
[11:46] <TJ-> zamnuts: Hence why I suggest a mirror-port to another host/interface so you can analyse it via tcpdump
[11:46] <hyutyi> ?
[11:47] <TJ-> zamnuts: But based on experience I'm pointing the finger at the ASA configuration. Have you tried changing the PC's static IP temporarily to one in the ASA's DHCP range?
[11:47] <zammit> TJ-, i haven't had a chance to do the tcpdump yet (sorry!)
[11:47] <zammit> TJ-, good point, will try a known range or two...
[11:47] <hyutyi> hi?
[11:48] <hyutyi> Is there any wai
[11:49] <donc3> Hi!
[11:49] <TJ-> zammit: OK, no rush... but I always recommend looking at the actual data rather than trying to guess. Saves a lot of messing about, working with facts not guesses.
[11:49] <hyutyi> *way to configure touchscreen (no touchpad) to do (Up and down) sliding the finger?
[11:49] <donc3> somebody could say me what is the lastest kernel that supports an AGP graphic card???
[11:49] <hyutyi> it only does that on gnome control
[11:50] <TJ-> donc3: All kernels will... AGP is just a variation of the PCI bus
[11:50] <zammit> TJ-, ok using something on the DHCP range is working, bingo. i'll try a different staic on the .5 block
[11:51] <hyutyi> on other programs ex. chromium it acts as a "left mouse button"
[11:51] <donc3> I have an AGP card an Ati 3850 HD
[11:51] <TJ-> donc3: Problems with unrecognised AGP cards will be more to do with no driver support for no-longer-manufactured devices
[11:51] <bibi234> there are some scripts (like GIT) which are able to open a command line editor with some content, and then ask the user to edit it, (eg. "git commit"), how can I do this in my own command line script, if possible, without creating a temp file?
[11:51] <donc3> and it gives me some problems
[11:51] <TJ-> donc3: Is it listed if you do "lspci -nn" ?
[11:51] <donc3> But one user from here help me to upgrade to an older kernel an it worked
[11:52] <TJ-> zammit: Yay!
[11:52] <donc3> but now I need to do it another time, and I doesn't remember the version
[11:52] <TJ-> zammit: I'd guess the ASA is configured to only pass packets within the defined ranges
[11:52] <SaberX01> bibi234, what lang is the script?
[11:52] <zammit> TJ-, ok, so i tried <IP_ADDRESS> (was .10)... and it works as well
[11:53] <zammit> TJ-, i wonder if the ARP cache old?
[11:53] <donc3> TJ- yes, it is listed
[11:53] <TJ-> zammit: Could be... flush the ARP table?
[11:53] <bibi234> SaberX01: it can be a shell script, or PHP, or anything else if there is a better option
[11:53] <TJ-> zammit: Could one of the switches have a stale table?
[11:54] <donc3> TJ- it could be 3.10 kernel with open source radeon drivers?
[11:54] <TJ-> donc3: OK, so what exactly happens? Does the GUI desktop fail to start? start in low resolution? appear corrupted?
[11:55] <bibi234> SaberX01: (because there is no script yet, I haven't started it)
[11:55] <donc3> TJ- sometimes it freezes and blocks
[11:55] <TJ-> bibi234: "git commit -e " uses a temporary file for the editor
[11:55] <SaberX01> bibi234, so you want to prompt the user to edit, then after edits to a commit?
[11:55] <hyutyi> also I have a useless Synaptic touchpad which is detected by kernel but doesn't move
[11:55] <zammit> TJ-, ok, i'm blind, the MAC on the ASA's ARP table was off by 2 digits (b3e3 vs b5fd) (facepalm)
[11:55] <TJ-> donc3: OK ... and when that happens are there any clues in "/var/log/kern.log" ?
[11:55] <TJ-> zammit: *spanx* :D
[11:55] <zammit> TJ-, so it is def an ARP table problem, confirmed, i must've used the .5 on another NIC a few hours ago...
[11:55] <hyutyi> gsynaptics tool doesn't work
[11:56] <zammit> TJ-, thanks for the help, and not related to ubuntu either
[11:56] <donc3> TJ- I can paste you
[11:56] <TJ-> zammit: I think we've gone around the houses on that one! :D
[11:56] <zammit> TJ-, yea i think so! :P
[11:56] <SaberX01> and then some :-) noce work
[11:56] <SaberX01> *nice
[11:57] <donc3> TJ- there is not any kern.log
[11:57] <TJ-> donc3: What Ubuntu version is it? "lsb_release -a"
[11:58] <bibi234> SaberX01: no git was just an example, I'd just like to open a command line editor with some default text, the user can then edit it, when it saves it I grab the edited content and continue the script
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> donc3: did you browse to /var/log manually with nautilus?
[11:58] <donc3> TJ- I was using Ubuntu 13.10 but yesterday I change to elementary OS
[11:59] <bibi234> I think it's doable with a temp file, but was wondering if it was possible to keep it in memory
[11:59] <donc3> lotuspsychje no I do it in terminal
[11:59] <zammit> TJ-, apt-get is flying now, woo!!
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> !elementary | donc3
[11:59] <zammit> TJ-, how refreshing.
[11:59] <demon^eye> anyone knows if firefox 26 for linux is 64 bit?
[11:59] <TJ-> bibi234: You could do, for example: " echo -n "Please edit this text\nLine #2" | vim -   "
[11:59] <SaberX01> bibi234, there's lots of ways to do that. The amount of data will determine which is the best approach, one line, paragraph, config item etc.
[11:59] <TJ-> zammit: makes you wonder where the lost packets were going!
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> demon^eye: if you installed ubuntu 64bit FF will be also
[12:00] <demon^eye> lotuspsychje,  : yes i did :D
[12:00] <demon^eye> 10x
[12:00] <zammit> TJ-, /dev/null (or equiv) i hope.
[12:00] <SaberX01> bibi234, also, if there is a specific format the data must adhere too. You can use Perl, Bash, Ruby all sorts.
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> demon^eye: most packages will be 64bit then, when you download them
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> !info firefox | demon^eye looks version 26 to me
[12:03] <zammit> bibi234, TJ-'s answer is pretty good, you could: $ captured=`echo -n .... | vim - ` use the backticks to capture stdout and throw it into a var, or redirect stdout entirely `>`
[12:04] <demon^eye> if we aretalking on FF , what are the best fonts to set  ?
[12:05] <demon^eye> i mean linux and wins got not the same ones
[12:06] <hyutyi> no idea :(
[12:06] <TJ-> demon^eye: The defaults are chosen with readability in mind
[12:06] <hyutyi> it says that synaptic driver is not loader but xinput detects it
[12:06] <Guest59359> Amazon is preinstalled on my Ubuntu 13.10 and I can't delete it. When I click on the Ubuntu menu and type in "amazon" it shows up under applications, and when I right click it won't let me delete if only gives the launch option. And when I click launch it brings me to amazon.com... I have been trying for a couple days to get rid of this now and can't. Same thing with Ubuntu One Music. Does anyone know how to get rid of this stuff?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> Guest59359: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363912/how-to-remove-amazon-and-ubuntu-one-music
[12:07] <sitown> TJ-: Hi, and if anybody else can answer. You told me that the faulty suspend function is probably caused by the graphical interface. Unity. So if i uninstall and install gnome 3 or something it might help?
[12:08] <k1l> Guest59359: open the application-lens/scope, then scroll down and you will see all scopes that are installed. then chose the one you dont want and hit disable
[12:08] <k1l> Guest59359: or you can disable all online searches with one switch in the privacy settings in system settings
[12:08] <demon^eye> tj- : i found other better ....
[12:09] <bibi234> zammit TJ- : I've tried this one http://pastie.org/8582311, but without success, it says 'alert the output isn't redirected to a terminal'
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> demon^eye: there is no 'best' that counts for everyone, its the users choice right
[12:09] <TJ-> sitown: You don't need to uninstall anything, you can install alternatives alongside Unity and choose which one to use at each log-in by pressing the gear icon to the top-right of the username at the log-in prompt
[12:10] <Guest59359> k1l, i disabled all online searches but Amazon and ubuntu one is still there. How do I open the application lens scope? Where is it located?
[12:10] <demon^eye> lotuspsychje,  : yes , but some hebrew site look bad with the default ones
[12:10] <bibi234> zammit: I don't know about backticks, I know about '>', but I've only done this to redirect stdout to a file, I don't understand how I should use it in this context (variable).
[12:10] <k1l> Guest59359: see the askubuntu link
[12:10] <demon^eye> so gota change them up
[12:10] <zammit> bibi234, what about echo -n ... | vim - > out.file ?
[12:10] <TJ-> bibi234: delete the leading "$" from the first line. When assigning to a variable do not preceed its name with the "$"
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> demon^eye: you can always ask new font layouts in #firefox if you wish, maybe they might know some
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> demon^eye: type about: in firefox for your architecture by the way
[12:13] <bibi234> zammit: "captured=`echo -n "allo" | vim - > tmp" , test.sh: 4: test.sh: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[12:13] <Guest59359> k1l, I filtered results by dash plugins like it said and there are non listed. but when I go to applications amazon and ubuntu one music are still there
[12:13] <Guest59359> noneE
[12:13] <Guest59359> ugh none* sorry
[12:13] <zammit> bibi234, captured=`echo -n "allo" | vm - `;
[12:14] <zammit> bibi234, then.... echo "$captured" > out.file;
[12:14] <zammit> bibi234, round-about way of doing it, but just to illustrate the steps
[12:14] <pepe221> HI I have one problem with my AGP videocard. When I scroll down fast, the screen turns black.  I paste you my syslog file to see my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/6650902/
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> pepe221: ubuntu version and grafix card chipset plz?
[12:16] <SaberX01> zammit, I thought originally, he didn't want a temp.file though. Could have the script read an array | editor, re-write the array var
[12:16] <ikonia> pepe221: I doubt you'll see that in a syslog
[12:16] <sayah> Hi I have a simple question, how do you get to a command line prompt from the desktop in ubuntu?
[12:16] <pepe221> yes ikonia
[12:16] <pepe221> ubuntu 13.10
[12:16] <k1l> Guest59359: please make a screenshot and show it here
[12:16] <zammit> SaberX01, ah i missed that detail, then he just should omit the echo "$captured" > out.file; ...the contents are within $captured now :)
[12:16] <ObrienDave> sayah, open a terminal
[12:17] <sitown> TJ-: So the sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, is the one that probably would be the one with least bugs?
[12:17] <bibi234> zammit: oh indeed I had missed a backtick, it still says "Vim: Alert: output isn't done on a terminal" (translated)
[12:17] <sayah> ObrienDave: thanks, how do you get to terminal?
[12:17] <zammit> try nano? i really have never attempted such a thing in bash!
[12:17] <SaberX01> If the input is variable gonna have to read somwhere, if it's static, read a var, edit, rewrite the var.
[12:18] <pepe221> lotuspsychje ubuntu  and the graphic card is an ati 3850 agp
[12:18] <Guest59359> k1l,  I installed gksudo and i think i got rid of it i will restart and brb
[12:18] <tapout> is there a 'howto' on disabling the ads/tracking in ubuntu?
[12:18] <ObrienDave> sayah, does right click "open terminal here" work?
[12:18] <pepe221> lotuspsychje ubuntu 13.10 sorry
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> pepe221: so you can boot fine to desktop, and after scrolling you get black screen?
[12:19] <SaberX01> bibi234, is the input going to be static  or variable based on a condition or search or something?
[12:19] <pepe221> lotuspsychje yes
[12:19] <k1l> installing gksudo for disabling the amazon scope? there is alot wrong in your system
[12:19] <sayah> ObrienDave: Nope, no right click window.
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> pepe221: your 'additional driver' section shows other drivers?
[12:20] <ObrienDave> sayah, look in your app menu. i DON"T do unity. ;)
[12:20] <Guest6437> k1l,  THEY ARE GONE! I will make not of this thank you very much.
[12:20] <djtorr3> just installed ubuntu on an Asus Ultrabook (dual booted with Win8), it has a Geforce 740M card in it, but ubuntu apparently isn't detecting that there's a nvidia card, so in the additional drivers sections it says no available additional drivers, is there some way around this?
[12:21] <djtorr3> i'd just use the default drivers but it makes unity extremely slow
[12:21] <TJ-> bibi234: "sudo apt-get install moreutils" then "export EDITOR=vim" then something like "capture=`echo "allo" | vipe | cat`"
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> djtorr3: what does lshw -C video show after driver=
[12:21] <bibi234> SaberX01: it should be the output of a command, basically I'd like to create a release tool, example "release 1.8.4", then it will use git to get the commit diff with previous versions, and I'd like to have a way to edit it so that I only keep relevant things, then it's added to a CHANGELOG file, and git tag, push.
[12:22] <TJ-> bibi234: After installing the package, "man vipe" will help you
[12:22] <zammit> bibi234, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10686183/pipe-vim-buffer-to-stdout
[12:22] <TJ-> bibi234: "vipe" does exactly what you require, and you can set the editor using EDITOR
[12:22] <Guest6437> I have another problem. I am using a Dell N4010 laptop with Ubuntu 13.10. I can't use my backlight keys on the keyboard to change my brightness I have to use command line. I know it's not a problem with the computer because I booted Windows and it works fine. Is there something I can install to make this function?
[12:22] <zammit> TJ-, would be nice to have solution that does not require non-standard utils
[12:23] <zammit> TJ-, (although vim isn't exactly standard either! but a bit more common, perhaps vi is best)
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> its 13.10 screen error day again oO
[12:23] <djtorr3> lotuspsychje, i don't see anything that says driver=, but it says product: GK208M [GeForce GT 740M]
[12:23] <TJ-> zammit: "EDITOR=vi" or "EDITOR=nano" :)
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current | djtorr3 try this maybe