[02:30] <intelikey> [joemax]  in laymans terms a block is 1042 bites of the disk serface that was scanned.
[02:30] <joe3k> dhq: what error
[02:30] <intelikey> err 1024
[02:30] <intelikey> = 1k
[02:30] <dhq> joe3k: well i will paste it on pistebin
[02:31] <intelikey> [joemax]  that assumes you didn't set the block size with the -b option.
[02:31] <joe3k> i think for cd the block size should be 2048, shouldn't it
[02:32] <joe3k> that's at least the block size for iso fs
[02:32] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the kernel source tree?
[02:32] <intelikey> [joemax]  i sujest scanning a known good disk.
[02:32] <dhq> joe3k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31202/\
[02:32] <joe3k> MRMorefield-ft: actually kernel sources
[02:32] <oslo> existe t-il un krfb like pour windows ? pour pouvoir me connecter sous ma kubuntu a distance
[02:32] <MRMorefield-ft> yes
[02:33] <[joemax] > oh well...the cd ehcks out anyway :)
[02:33] <BluesKaj> !fr
[02:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:33] <[joemax] > *checks
[02:33] <MRMorefield-ft> i want to install the new nvidia driver
[02:33] <MRMorefield-ft> but the installer cant detect the kernel source tree
[02:33] <joe3k> dhq: honestly, no idea, never had X errors in apt-get from cmd line
[02:34] <joe3k> dhq: have to try someone else :-/
[02:34] <intelikey> [joemax]  i just scaned a blank it returned NO badblocks... so i mentioned checking a known to be good disk.
[02:34] <dhq> joe3k: anyways thanx
[02:34] <joe3k> oslo: i think ultravnc is what you're looking for
[02:35] <joe3k> oslo: http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
[02:35] <intelikey> [joemax]  actually blank but formated ^  i don't think you can scan a new cdr
[02:36] <gurumeditationer> How do I get rid of this x screen saver? it doesn't seem to matter that I've picked a different screen saver in the display settings it always does the white X one
[02:36] <[joemax] > intelikey: ok thanks...
[02:36] <BluesKaj> remote desktop -Krfb desktop sharing perhaps?... oslo
[02:37] <[joemax] > intelikey: i think it doesn't scan it as good...i got to burn an iso just fine :)
[02:37] <intelikey> ok i'm went.  C++ yall
[02:37] <[joemax] > intelikey: but thanks for the help
[02:37] <Jucato> bye intelikey :)
[02:41] <qbit> anyone know about Xen support in edgy? - specifically if cpu has to be one of the new ones with new virtualization features, or can it even work on older such as a Sempron 2800+?
[02:42] <oslo> joe3k> i will try
[02:43] <visik_> latest avahi update broken my system
[02:43] <visik_> to be exactly adept doesn't handle dist-upgrades
[02:45] <joe3k> am i the only person here witch bunch of cds wishing to catalogize them under linux?
[02:50] <abattoir> joe3k: what do you mean by 'catalogize' ?
[02:50] <joe3k> visik_: you have to probably switch to cmd and try apt-get -f install
[02:50] <honest> Hello all
[02:51] <joe3k> abattoir: create a cd catalogoue, something cdcat and katalog does
[02:51] <joe3k> abattoir: katalog 0.3 in edgy fails at basic task - add /media/cdrom0 to catalogue :)
[02:51] <honest> i was wondering, if there a command to reset xorg settings, for some reason when i move windows about the screen they sorta jump, kinda like a windows machine before the video card drive has been installed
[02:51] <abattoir> honest: 'sudo dexconf'
[02:52] <honest> abattoir: shall i restart x?
[02:52] <honest> abattoir: after running the command?
[02:52] <abattoir> honest: yup
[02:52] <Jucato> abattoir!!!
[02:53] <honest> abattoir:  is there a command to restart x?
[02:53] <abattoir> hey Jucato :)
[02:53] <Jucato> honest: save everything you need to, then ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:53] <abattoir> honest: ctrl+alt+backspace...
[02:53] <Cerebro> Hallo everybody
[02:53] <honest> abattoir: N1, brb
[02:53] <kent_> i'm haveing trouble getting amarok to see my zen xtra can somone help me? i'm looking at this http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:MTP
[02:54] <abattoir> honest: worked?
[02:54] <honest> abattoir: back.
[02:54] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: which version of AmaroK are you running?
[02:54] <honest> abattoir: nah, it still does the same, do u know what i mean about a M$ box without the driver installed?
[02:54] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: 1.4.4
[02:55] <fildo> can anyone tell me about wifi, i get my wifi associated with the AP . link quality is good . but the noise level is -45db..
[02:55] <honest> abattoir: kinda like refreash rate of 2
[02:55] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: have you libmtp installed?
[02:55] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: yes and libmtp sees the player but i'm not sure what to do now
[02:55] <abattoir> honest: yes, the settings have been 'reset' to default, you should modify them to suit your needs
[02:56] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: oops that was for you
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: in amaroK, click 'media device'
[02:56] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: and?
[02:57] <fildo> can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31206/
[02:58] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: what is displayed when you plug the Zen in ?
[02:58] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: nothing in amarok, the desktop shows a camra icon
[02:59] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: a camera icon, curious
[02:59] <fildo> sorry this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31207/
[03:00] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: have you installed libusb 0.1.12 in your box?
[03:00] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: or higher
[03:01] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: let me check
[03:01] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: k :)
[03:02] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: libusb 0.1 -4 is on it
[03:02] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: libusb 0.1.14?
[03:03] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: no
[03:03] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: libusb 0.1 -4 is on it
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> ah
[03:03] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: says adept
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: is there an option for an Adept upgrade?
[03:04] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: says everything is up to date
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> k
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> http://libusb.sourceforge.net/download.html#stable
[03:04] <honest> abattoir: thing is, i can modify them but it doesnt stop this pre driverinstal windows effect.. any ideas mate?
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: it's a tar, the latest libusb
[03:05] <honest> abattoir: would it be worth installing the nvidia driver?
[03:05] <e1mer> hi all
[03:05] <abattoir> honest: what do you exactly mean by 'pre driver install windows effect' ?
[03:05] <abattoir> honest: hmm, yes
[03:05] <e1mer> anyone got a tool for converting wvdial.conf to kppp arguments?
[03:05] <abattoir> !nvidia | honest
[03:05] <ubotu> honest: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:05] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: ok i downloaded it now what?
[03:05] <abattoir> honest: are you using the 'nv' driver now?
[03:06] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: untar in a folder
[03:06] <honest> abattoir: Umm yeh i think so, let me check
[03:06] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: ok
[03:06] <honest> abattoir: it was usingthe NV it's now using the vesa, that could be the prob?
[03:07] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: and then compile and install
[03:07] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: how?
[03:07] <abattoir> honest: it was nv before you did sudo dexconf?
[03:07] <abattoir> honest: you still had that problem then right?
[03:07] <abattoir> (the reason you ran dexconf)
[03:08] <honest> abattoir: nah, i ran that command to try and fix the issue, then i realised i had now noticed it was the vesa, bthis is before athe command as well
[03:08] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: can you walk me through compuleing and stuff i've never done that
[03:08] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: sudo tar -xvzf <name of downloaded tar.gz>
[03:09] <abattoir> honest: oh ok, then try changing it to nv then
[03:09] <honest> abattoir: just restarting X
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: cd libusb-0.1.12.tar.gz
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: ./configure
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: make
[03:10] <twosouls82> hello nice people :)
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: sudo make install
[03:11] <Bubba_Gump> twosouls82: :D
[03:11] <twosouls82> :)
[03:11] <kent_> sudo make install
[03:11] <kent_> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:11] <klerfayt> how do you make screeshot of kdm? (login screen)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> mkdir first
[03:11] <Bubba_Gump> hmm
[03:12] <cox377> abattoir: This, is also honest, working on 2 machines
[03:12] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: i'm flumuxed
[03:12] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: normally this works
[03:12] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: hehe
[03:12] <abattoir> cox377: ok :)
[03:12] <sberla54> ciao ragazzi qualcuno mi aiuta con dei problemi di aggiornamento da dapper ad edgy, legati ad apt-get?
[03:12] <cox377> abattoir: changed that driver and its gone bad
[03:13] <abattoir> !it
[03:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:13] <cox377> it doesnt seem it will start x
[03:13] <abattoir> cox377: hmm, what error do you get?
[03:13] <abattoir> cox377: does changing it back to vesa start x ?
[03:13] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: are you running as root?
[03:13] <cox377> abattoir: shall try that now
[03:14] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: ./configure worked then
[03:14] <kent_> make
[03:14] <kent_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:15] <cox377> abattoir: yup, that worked
[03:15] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: i've never run as root b4 only used sudo
[03:15] <cox377> abattoir: but still back to the pre driver issue
[03:15] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: i'm not sure on this...
[03:16] <abattoir> cox377: i guess it's best that you install the binary nvidia drivers
[03:16] <abattoir> cox377: do you want to do that?
[03:16] <dein> hihi
[03:17] <cox377> abattoir: yeh man, anything to get it running properly  : )
[03:17] <abattoir> ok
[03:17] <abattoir> you have the links right?
[03:17] <abattoir> !nvidia | cox377
[03:17] <ubotu> cox377: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:17] <cox377> abattoir: N1
[03:17] <cox377> abattoir: : )
[03:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:18] <twosouls82> I have a crappy BIOS, I can't seem to find out the IO port and the IRQ address of the Midi device on my soundcard, and no I don't use (and intend to) use Windows..  Is there a nifty tool for linux to get this info?
[03:19] <twosouls82> hallo slow-motion, alles goed? :P
[03:19] <warnet> hai
[03:19] <slow-motion> hi twosouls82
[03:19] <shanden> ..
[03:19] <shanden> .
[03:19] <shanden> ..
[03:19] <shanden> ...................................................................................................................................
[03:19] <LjL> shanden: ? stop
[03:19] <twosouls82> !abuse
[03:19] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:19] <shanden> ok
[03:19] <honest> abattoir: me again, what i did was run the NV without the direct something or other lol and it works
[03:19] <honest> abattoir: back to normal, cheers for that
[03:19] <shanden> sorry
[03:20] <twosouls82> np :)
[03:20] <shanden> ^_^'
[03:20] <abattoir> honest: oh, and the 'pre driver installation....blah blah' is gone? ;)
[03:20] <cox377> abattoir: yup
[03:20] <cox377> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:21] <cox377> i shall install that and see what happens, maybe i can get better rez
[03:21] <cox377> ;)
[03:21] <abattoir> cox377: oh cool
[03:21] <klerfayt> what I have to install to have command "import"?
[03:21] <abattoir> cox377: yeah, and you can run beryl too... and crash your system more often ;)
[03:22] <klerfayt> nv, answer is imagemagick
[03:23] <honest> abattoir: lol is it not recommened then?
[03:23] <abattoir> honest: no i didn't mean that
[03:23] <warnet> hai all
[03:23] <honest> abattoir: lol
[03:24] <abattoir> honest: i said once you have the nvidia driver(the new beta one actually), you can run beryl, and enjoy all the eyecandy goodness coupled w/ the occasional ever-so humbling crash ;)
[03:25] <honest> abattoir: ahhh i get yah
[03:28] <tommy> how to change the label of HDD FAT32 in kununtu desktop
[03:30] <kay> i have a USB-Headset can anyone tell me how i can install iton kubuntu?
[03:32] <kent_> ho do i open a knosle with admin rights so i can just do a bunch of stuff without sudo?
[03:33] <binary2k2> kent_: in konsole type: sudo su
[03:33] <kay> kent_: i think you hve do it in kubuntu everytime with sudo
[03:33] <kay> yes or this
[03:33] <kay> :-(
[03:33] <marios_s> Hello, I'm trying to use the kubuntu live boot loader. I've a kubuntu installed on /dev/hda. what's the command to boot? root=/dev/hda3 (linux part) doesn't work
[03:35] <kay> marios_s: maybe there where the boot partion is (for example (hda1))
[03:35] <LjL> binary2k2, kent_:  "sudo -i" is probably a better idea
[03:35] <binary2k2> LjL: it's the same thing really
[03:36] <marios_s> kay, sorry? The problem is windows overwrote grub and now I'd like to run linux using the cd as a boot loader, but I don't know the option
[03:36] <LjL> binary2k2, no, "sudo -i" sets environment variables to the right ones for root, "sudo su" doesn't.   "sudo su -" does, but then it still makes no sense to chain two commands (sudo and su), which essentially perform the same function
[03:36] <eL`iz> hai....
[03:37] <kay> mar#
[03:37] <kay> marios_s: ah i have the same problem last time
[03:37] <kay> its easy
[03:37] <kay> i can tell you
[03:37] <marios_s> than you :)
[03:37] <LjL> binary2k2: by the way, "sudo -s" is closer to "sudo su" (i.e. it doesn't set the environment)
[03:38] <kay> marios_s: you need a boot cd i had last time gentoo
[03:38] <kay> course it wroks fine
[03:38] <kay> you start it and you need a konsole
[03:39] <kay> there you have to put the commands
[03:39] <binary2k2> LjL: yeah, i'll have to refresh myself in man sudo :p
[03:39] <kay> mkdir /mnt/linux/
[03:39] <kay> mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/linux
[03:39] <kay> chrott /mnt/linux
[03:40] <kay> grub-install /dev/hda1
[03:40] <kay> this is all
[03:40] <marios_s> I tried
[03:40] <marios_s> but doesn't work
[03:40] <kay> this aLL?
[03:40] <marios_s> It tell me something like: couldn't gethostbname()
[03:40] <kay> ok
[03:40] <marios_s> yes.
[03:40] <kay> then you have the wrong partion hda3
[03:40] <kay> make somethig else
[03:40] <kay> make fdisk /dev/hda
[03:41] <kay> and look on the partion table
[03:41] <marios_s> fdisk -l says is hda3 : P
[03:41] <yamal> kay: "chrott" <-- typo
[03:41] <kay> ups yeah it have to be chroot
[03:41] <kay> thx yamal
[03:42] <kay> wai
[03:42] <kay> marios_s: you installed windows too???
[03:43] <marios_s> kay, yes
[03:43] <kay> marios_s: so windows installed him self only one the first partion on hda1
[03:43] <kay> marios_s: hm...
[03:44] <marios_s> that's the problem, but I wish to run ubuntu at least from live bootloader
[03:45] <aimtrainer> hi! Does anybody have experience with edgy and the ipw3945? I tried it with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140085&page=2&highlight=ipw3945 script but t just won work :(
[03:45] <kay> marios_s: can you trie it  again??
[03:46] <marios_s> kay why ? :D
[03:46] <yamal> kay: also, if you want grub on the mbr, it should be /dev/hda not hda1 iirc
[03:47] <kay> marios_s: dont know mayb luck and it run but  i find a link maybe it cvan help you
[03:47] <kay> yamal: it seems to me you know it better then me so plz help him
[03:48] <yamal> marios_s: what are you currently using? live cd?
[03:48] <kay> marios_s: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1495057
[03:49] <marios_s> yamal, now I'm from windoes
[03:49] <kay> yamal: and i did it with hda1 and it works
[03:51] <marios_s> Do you think it's going to work if I reinstall ubuntu?
[03:52] <kay> marios_s: sure course grub will installed again
[03:53] <kay> marios_s: i have kubuntu cd too but as i used it i didnt work i use a gentoo live cd
[03:55] <yamal> marios_s: read the comment by "remmelt" on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[03:56] <yamal> and you may have to use sudo with the grub command mentioned in step 3
[03:57] <kay> yamal: do you something know abut USB-headset , too?
[03:57] <yamal> not a thing :)
[03:57] <kay> lol k thx
[04:00] <marios_s> yamal, I'll give a try
[04:02] <yamal> marios_s: be sure to substitute the correct values for your situation, then it should work (I think ;)
[04:02] <marios_s> (I hope)
[04:02] <marios_s> just a sec : )
[04:07] <joe3k> freeflying: ?
[04:09] <magicmike> Any known problems updating to Edgy through the adept package manager?
[04:10] <shegman> can somebody tell me how to enable 3d in kubuntu
[04:10] <Jucato> magicmike: do not upgrade to Edgy using Adept
[04:10] <Jucato> !upgrade | magicmike
[04:10] <ubotu> magicmike: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:11] <magicmike> Thanks.
[04:12] <shegman> !libGL
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <Hawkwind> shegman: Install your nvidia/ati drivers
[04:12] <shegman> i have a intel blabla in my laptop
[04:13] <shegman> in suse the 3d driver worked. dont know how
[04:14] <magicmike> jucato: Is it worth the hassle to upgrade at this point?
[04:14] <Jucato> magicmike: depends on you really. if you need some packages that can only be found on edgy, or if you can risk the upgrade, why not. but if you must absolutely be stable, stick to Dapper
[04:14] <slow-motion> re
[04:15] <Jucato> although Edgy has been stable on my desktop
[04:15] <joe3k> well but few things seem not to work that well in edgy, today i discovered another one
[04:15] <twosouls82> please file a report
[04:15] <magicmike> jucato: I'm still trying to learn this thing and I've got 75% - 80% of my stuff working. I'll hold off. Thanks
[04:16] <joe3k> if i eg insert a cd, then in popup choose "open in new window" the window pops up but it's empty
[04:16] <joe3k> seems the device gets mounted only after the window pops up
[04:16] <twosouls82> joe3k: reload/refresh and it wont be empty
[04:16] <magicmike> edgy might make me edgy. LOL
[04:16] <joe3k> yeah i'll do, just need some time to check whether it doesn't exist already
[04:16] <joe3k> twosouls82: i know but it's not the expected behaviour i suppose
[04:17] <joe3k> i think it worked correctly in dapper
[04:17] <twosouls82> true :) but it isn't a severe bug.. you can still file it though, joe3k
[04:17] <joe3k> can maybe someone of you try it out now? :)
[04:18] <twosouls82> joe3k: I already meant to confirm it to you  :)
[04:18] <joe3k> hehe
[04:18] <joe3k> i'll fill that one
[04:19] <joe3k> i think i have to make me a todo list
[04:19] <twosouls82> :) great.. I simply don't have the time myself :$
[04:19] <twosouls82> hehehe joe3k
[04:19] <joe3k> twosouls82: me actually neither ;-)
[04:20] <BluesKaj> anyone here connected to a working windows network with a kubuntu box ?
[04:21] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: yes.. all linux boxes though, but using samba :P
[04:21] <heevmo> can anyone help me to make a new root user
[04:21] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, ok are you using komba as anetwork browser ?
[04:22] <khirr> !repository
[04:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:22] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: no sorry, either smb4k or konqueror
[04:23] <khirr> how can install repository to kmess in edgy? or mercury?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> ok twosouls82 , smb4k ?
[04:27] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: Smb4K is an SMB/CIFS share browser for KDE, what is it you need to know about it?
[04:27] <khirr> how can i ..?
[04:27] <joe3k> twosouls82: it's actually already there, bug 67863
[04:27] <nickste> how do I unbind shift + backspace from restarting xserver or whatever it does
[04:27] <khirr> !repository
[04:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:27] <Jucato> !kmess
[04:27] <ubotu> kmess: Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1067 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[04:27] <Jucato> !mercury
[04:27] <ubotu> mercury: A new logic/functional programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0.rotd.20040511-5 (edgy), package size 24708 kB, installed size 109984 kB
[04:28] <twosouls82> joe3k: good :) let's pray it will be troubleshooted someday soon.. but remember.. it is not severe\
[04:28] <Jucato> khirr: both kmess and mercury are in the universe repos. Just enable universe, and you can install them from Adept or apt-get
[04:28] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, this the error message i get from komba when i try to access files on the network windows pc .. smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[04:28] <twosouls82> nice work joe3k
[04:28] <twosouls82> :)
[04:28] <khirr> just universe? o multiverse too?
[04:28] <joe3k> twosouls82: it's not yet confirmed so i think it needs a bit more traffic :)
[04:29] <khirr> is mercury msn?
[04:29] <joe3k> twosouls82: but i think it's not even minor problem, its kinda dumb to select open in new window and see empty window, istn't it
[04:29] <Jucato> khirr: mercury isn't msn. kmess does msn. just universe. have you tried MSN on Kopete?
[04:30] <twosouls82> joe3k: true but it it works, 'though not like it should :s
[04:31] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: the answers is on this page.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219767
[04:31] <twosouls82> don't use setuid root unless you absolutely need to
[04:31] <twosouls82> (which is what you do need to do now)
[04:32] <twosouls82> setuid root, makes the program on which it has been set to be executed as root, eventhough you start it, hence root is the owner
[04:34] <khirr> but kmess run MSN, i've tried...
[04:34] <khirr> ive tried www.mercury.to too
[04:35] <Jucato> khirr: then you can install kmess. it's in universe
[04:35] <it4lia59> salut
[04:35] <khirr> but, now cant install, i dunno why...for that reason i'd like know if there is one repository for this
[04:35] <khirr> but, mercury msn?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, I don't have a prob with sudo ..it's just this particular proggie komba2, that gives me that message
[04:35] <twosouls82> bonsoir it4lia59 :)
[04:36] <it4lia59> je voudrai savoir si quelq'un a installer teamspeak sur la kubuntu ? svp
[04:36] <BluesKaj> I guess I should try to config smb4k
[04:36] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you need to set 'setuid' on 'smbmnt', and you need to set the owner to be 'root', these actions together make 'smbmnt' get executed as root...  regardless of who runs the command
[04:37] <Hawkwind> !it | it4lia59
[04:37] <ubotu> it4lia59: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:37] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: smb4k doesn't need it, so I prefer that one
[04:37] <it4lia59> ok sorry
[04:37] <Dr_willis> yep. got to set the suid bit on the 2 smb commands that smb4k uses.
[04:37] <BluesKaj> ok  twosouls82 , how do i get smb4k to work for me ?
[04:38] <twosouls82> it4lia59: isn't that French instead of Italian?
[04:38] <it4lia59> Any one has install teamspeak on kubuntu ?
[04:38] <twosouls82> ubotu | languages
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt
[04:38] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 smbumount
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !it
[04:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !fr
[04:38] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:38] <twosouls82> :) BluesKaj
[04:39] <it4lia59> ok but I can speak english to
[04:39] <it4lia59> and I want to know if you have install teamspeak ?
[04:39] <twosouls82> Dr_willis: did you, can't recall I did too :P
[04:40] <Dr_willis> alway had to do it with ubuntu/kubuntu, many other disrtos have them suid allready i guess
[04:40] <Dr_willis> alternatve to smb4k is that fuse samba filesystem tool.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> or mount the shares from the fstab
[04:41] <khirr> how can i  view my kmess contact list for email, and not for "name"
[04:41] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, do I enter those commands in the terminal ?
[04:42] <BluesKaj> i have no idea what fstab is
[04:42] <twosouls82> :|
[04:42] <apokryphos> !fstab
[04:42] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:42] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you may want to do some learning/reding of linux fundumentals. :)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> suid is a special 'permission' you set on executables
[04:43] <BluesKaj> spoken like a true teacher m Dr_willis :)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[04:43] <Dr_willis> will set the suid bit on that binary.. (as the 's' in what i pasted showed)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt
[04:43] <Dr_willis> note the s 'rwSr'
[04:44] <Dr_willis> suiding things can be considered a potential security risk. :)
[04:44] <joe3k> twosouls82: may add your story to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67863
[04:45] <BluesKaj> well, it was an illegal option
[04:46] <twosouls82> joe3k: I will confirm your post by a little one too
[04:46] <BluesKaj> prolly not worth worrying about , i'll just boot into windows if i require any files from the network pc ...that system works
[04:47] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you only learn Linux if you digg into it :)
[04:48] <BluesKaj> then i can access them on the ntfs partition if i need to
[04:49] <BluesKaj> well, I don't understand why I can print to the windows network from my linux box , but don't have access to files on the same pc that the printer is aconnected to ?
[04:51] <twosouls82> joe3k: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67863 I did it at once. It's of my list now
[04:51] <twosouls82> joe3k: thanks for the efforts! cheers
[04:51] <joe3k> twosouls82: well now only to find someone who call tell us what it caused ;-)
[04:52] <bluszcz> how can i play music using second sound device?
[04:52] <twosouls82> joe3k: it seems to a Konqi bug to me, as it IS being mounted correctly, only not shown ny Konqi
[04:52] <shaddar> hi ... someone using kubuntu on a ibm thinkpad x-series ?
[04:52] <joe3k> twosouls82: didn't find anything related on bugs.kde.org
[04:54] <loz> ubotu: can you give me advice on printing
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can you give me advice on printing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <loz> ubotu:  printing
[04:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:54] <loz> botsnak
[04:54] <loz> ubotu: botsnack
[04:54] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:55] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, Dr_willis ...I didn't understand what you guys just did there ..I enterd the commands in the terminal as sudo and I have access to the windows pc !  Thanyou :)
[04:55] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  we explained what it was doing....
[04:55] <binary2k2> linux magic :P
[04:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> hi all
[04:56] <Dr_willis> you set teh SUID BIT on the binaries so they ran with root permission/priviliges
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> just came back from trying to install gentoo
[04:56] <Dr_willis> oops :)
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> didn't work, i'm a newbie and i did all i can - worked 15 hrs straight on that :|
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> so i'm moving to kubuntu
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> is there any manual i need to read before i install?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  but did you learn aynthing from doing the install.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu web sites have a lot of guides
[04:57] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: i learned alot!
[04:57] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: i finished the install but i couldn't boot with grub. i got lots of help but still, it didn't work.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those things - it pays to spend a few hrs reading the homepage/docs/manuals and just learning....
[04:58] <_pyrooo_> so i think i'll try kubuntu, get formilier with linux and when i'll understand the basics i'll decide if i want to switch to some other disto or stay with kubuntu
[04:58] <Dr_willis> It pays to learn the 'FUNdamentals' :)
[04:59] <_pyrooo_> what?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> I have debian fans telling me to switch ...it's the same platform...but i don't see why i should ...I like some eye candy :)
[05:00] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  once you learn the basics - the changes are all eye candy. :)
[05:00] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: do you think kubuntu is just for basic users of even experts?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  its what you make it to be.. what are the experts doing thats so much different from what basic users are doing.
[05:00] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, the manuals assume one understands the nomenclature ...well i don't
[05:01] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: for how much time have you been using kubuntu?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  tldp.org has some guides also.. when in doubt.. read , read, read some more.. THEN you start to pickup on all the terms. and it all starts to fig together. Dont worry about a term you dont know right now.. look it up.. or have patience and it will eventually be made clear.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  been using Ubuntu and its variants since.. Hmm Breezy Badger release. been using Linux for a few years. (8 or so)
[05:02] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: why did you choose kubuntu instead a more complex distro?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> and yes i have a HUGE collection of Unix/Linux books.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  the term 'complex' is a bit meaningless. :) all the operating systems are a bit complex.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> ubuntu is very good at getting a system going. good HW detection, and installer.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> could be better.. but it works.
[05:04] <binary2k2> "could be better.." the linux motto
[05:04] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: alright, so i think i'll use kubuntu until i understand it throughly then decide if i want to switch. btw, do i need to read any guide before i install?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> binary2k2,  'could be better, but we dont care to put forth the effort' - the MS/Windows Motto.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  the ubuntu/kubuntu homepage has some guides.
[05:05] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: i ment installing guides. before i install
[05:05] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  tldp.org has some  more general guides also.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> I found the installer rather straight forward compared to gentoos. :)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> then again. gentoo's is rather straight forward.. just detailed.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> few clicks.. partition the drives.. let it install.. enter users name/password. :)
[05:06] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: amm, gentoo is stratight forward if you know what your doing :)
[05:06] <_pyrooo_> well i'm gonna install right away thanks
[05:06] <binary2k2> even the alternate text installer is qutie simple, compaired to others
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the Kubuntu/Uubntu alternative isntaller cd's
[05:06] <Dr_willis> and the text based installer.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[05:08] <BluesKaj> I've heard Gentoo is a bitch to install
[05:08] <Dr_willis> is good also to read/watch/check
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Gentoo is just 'detailed' :) and if you got no idea what a kernel even is..... well...
[05:14] <nixbox> I have an ssh session with a console, I want to log all the activity, there is not much user activity but there are lots of lines that get printed on the console as a result of packet arrivals, I want to log the time (with milliseconds granularity) at the start of each line printed, screen can't do that, any other ideas? I was suggested "logger" yesterday but I can't figure out how to use logger in this case.
[05:16] <bluch> !install deb
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install deb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <bluch> !deb
[05:16] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[05:17] <dany21> hi... has anyone raki and synce with an iPaq running?
[05:17] <khirr> what is the repository for JRE?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:17] <Dr_willis> its in Multiverse :)
[05:18] <khirr> but i'm using edgy
[05:18] <khirr> how can configure this?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !multiverse
[05:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:20] <Dr_willis> I normally fire up adept, check on the box's that enable the other repos,  and click away. :)
[05:20] <khirr> instaling
[05:20] <khirr> :D
[05:20] <Dr_willis> or enable them by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list, or use the front ends adept/synaptic to enable them.. or  use that easysource site
[05:22] <kimothy> any one care to help out with fglrx troubles?
[05:24] <kimothy> any one care to help out with fglrx troubles?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> and  the trouble is?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> if you reply 'it dont work' im going to give you such a pinch..
[05:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:25] <shaddar> anyone knows how to enable/configure the power save function of a thinkpad and how to enable the middle-mouse-button of a thinkpad x41 ?
[05:25] <kimothy> I installed the drivers and activated it in systemsettings, but they work worse than the ati drivers
[05:25] <kimothy> had to change back
[05:26] <Dr_willis> shaddar,  i think theres a thinkpad specific forum/area/wiki - ive never owned one.. so i may be wrong.. but it wont hurt to check.
[05:26] <kimothy> glxgears give about 300 fps
[05:27] <Dr_willis> glxgears really ticks me off at times. :) i cant even rember how to make it show fps now.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> no man page, no --help
[05:27] <ryanakca> anybody know what icon set this is? http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/45095-1.jpg
[05:27] <ryanakca> lol
[05:27] <||arifaX> Hirvinen, kopete does not get my icq contacts from icq server as gaim does by default. any ideas how to fix this? is there a trick?
[05:28] <ryanakca> info glxgears have anything?
[05:28] <ryanakca> would it be crystal or something?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ryanakca,  no info.. and the silly default is now to not show fps...
[05:28] <kimothy> glxgears -printfps
[05:28] <Dr_willis> here i was trying -showfps :)
[05:29] <kimothy> :-)
[05:29] <ryanakca> Dr_willis: file a bug... :)
[05:29] <ryanakca> should have a man page at the very least
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ryanakca,  i dont think anyone really cares. :( its been this way for ages.
[05:29] <ryanakca> lol
[05:29] <Dr_willis> 57464 frames in 5.7 seconds = 10128.971 FPS
[05:30] <Dr_willis> im not even sure what package glxgears comes in.
[05:32] <kimothy> typing fglrxinfo tells me it's using mesa
[05:33] <kimothy> any tricks up youres sleeve?
[05:33] <shaddar> [17:26]  <Dr_willis> shaddar,  i think theres a thinkpad specific forum/area/wiki - ive never owned one.. so i may be wrong.. but it wont hurt to check. <--haven't found yet ^^
[05:33] <khirr> how can i know if i have install JRE?
[05:34] <kimothy> J2re package installed?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> khirr,  java --version
[05:34] <khirr> tanks
[05:34] <Dr_willis> silly java.. its -version
[05:34] <LjL> Dr_willis, welcome to unix
[05:35] <Dr_willis> ava version "1.5.0_08"
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Ya would think at LEAST they could include both for --version and -version
[05:35] <Dr_willis> thats what? another 2 lines of C code. :)
[05:35] <Random_Transit> hey can anyone tell me what i need to play m4p files??
[05:36] <kimothy> i really need help with fglrx
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i really love when  a typo prints out 4 pages of help docs.. :)       guess thats better then a typo saying 'use --help' and --help option tells nothing.
[05:36] <LjL> Dr_willis, for that matter there are standard GNU or even POSIX libraries for parsing arguments in a sane way. you just need to use them i guess
[05:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:36] <LjL> Dr_willis: because the right option is either -help or -h, of course. makes perfect sense
[05:37] <Dr_willis> X -- -whatever     is always amusing also.
[05:37] <khirr> why i cant run mercury?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> I got Xnest in a window.. with a X cursor.. but nothing is starting.. heh.. now how to tell it to run a script..
[05:38] <ryanakca> kimothy: fglrx.. that's with xgl and compiz/beryl?
[05:38] <wildchild> Is there any DJ program for (k)ubuntu like tractor or virtual DJ in windows, please help
[05:38] <ryanakca> kimothy: why not just switch over to the open source 'ati' driver... much simpler
[05:38] <kimothy> no. ati's official drivers
[05:38] <ryanakca> wildchild: hmm... dunno... amarok?
[05:38] <kimothy> i have. but they are not realy that good
[05:39] <Random_Transit> wildchild, try terminatorx
[05:39] <hollywoodb> wildchild: there's a bunch, the agnula/demudi project has a bunch, and there should be quite a few in the regular repos as well
[05:39] <kimothy> i'm running ati driver now
[05:39] <ryanakca> kimothy: they are... I get higher fps with 'ati' than 'fglrx'... 'radeon' is junk on the other hand...
[05:39] <ryanakca> card?
[05:39] <khirr> why i cant run mercury messenger?
[05:39] <hollywoodb> wildchild: there's also ubuntustudio project
[05:39] <kimothy> radeon 9800XT
[05:40] <wildchild> hollywoodb, thx
[05:40] <LjL> Dr_willis, http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/autogui - do this on Unix ;)
[05:41] <kimothy> ryanakca: Me to. But thats only because there is something wrong with the fglrx drivers
[05:41] <ryanakca> kimothy: aka, they aren't as good as the 'ati' ones
[05:42] <xoxo> Question: when i click a hyperlink in kde, its showing the cached address instead of the actual website, how do i make it show the website instead of the cache?
[05:42] <kimothy> ryanakca: no. fglrx gives me about 7000 fps with working fglrx drivers and 300 with ati drivers
[05:43] <ryanakca> no clue... look on the XGL sites... they tend to have howtos on getting fglrx set up
[05:44] <kimothy> tried diverse howto's but none help me
[05:44] <hollywoodb> !fglrx
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <kimothy> read it
[05:45] <kimothy> but thanks
[05:46] <wildchild> Random_Transit: if u use terminatorX, what are your audio settings, I can't manage them to play mp3 file
[05:46] <kimothy> I'll change distro if I can't get it to work. Realy
[05:46] <Random_Transit> i really can't tell you, wildchild....i've only just heard of it recently
[05:46] <Random_Transit> sorry
[05:47] <kimothy> kororaa
[05:48] <kay> i need a webcam program anyone an idee?
[05:48] <aimtrainer> Hi! I just installed kubuntu edgy coming from kanotix and apt-geted gaim. But somehow the gaim preferences are differemt from what I m used to. There are far less possibiliteis to configure gaim
[05:48] <kimothy> oops! sorry
[05:48] <aimtrainer> does anyone know how to get the old preferences?
[05:48] <kay> aimtrainer: maybe you look in your hme/you/.gaim folder
[05:49] <kay> in your old one
[05:49] <aimtrainer> kay k ll try that ..
[05:49] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi there
[05:49] <aimtrainer> kay I dont have my old one anymore
[05:49] <kay> aimtrainer: so i think you have to do all agian :-/
[05:49] <Dr_willis> LjL,  actually i saw a similer tool  for linux,
[05:50] <Dr_willis> LjL,  saw it on a live cd.. i thinki even went to the programs homepage. but it was no longer being maintained.
[05:50] <aimtrainer> kay thats not the problem, but the gaim gui doesnt offer me the options I had back in my old gaim
[05:50] <LjL> Dr_willis: mantained or not, it'd never work correctly on linux. best it can do is try "--help" and hope the output is somehow machine readable... which will only be true for a handful of programs
[05:51] <kay> aimtrainer: so it like an other gaim for you?
[05:51] <LjL> Dr_willis: on amigaos, "<command> ?" gives a very standard syntax, which is easy to parse
[05:51] <Dr_willis> LjL,  the one i saw had a set of 'tabs/configs' for the various programs. you basicially designed a little gui of check boxs/entrys that then got passed to the command.
[05:52] <yahalom> i can install kubuntu-desktop, it keeps sayign downloading headers, and stays like until it fails after a few minutes
[05:52] <yahalom> i just downloaded xubuntu-desktop, no problems
[05:52] <yahalom> any ideas?
[05:52] <LjL> ah well, that's what GUI4CLI itself does on AmigaOS. you write a textfile and design the GUI there. but this AutoGUI thing *uses* GUI4CLI and goes further, by generating the UI automatically...
[05:52] <aimtrainer> kay - basically the program looks and works the same way - just the preferences guy is like a beginners version
[05:53] <aimtrainer> *gui not guy
[05:53] <Dr_willis> I always just used 'CanDo' :) to build my own.
[05:53] <binary2k2> yahalom: try using a different mirror, like the main ones
[05:53] <yahalom> binary2k2: i'm using without country symbol
[05:53] <yahalom> binary2k2: so no us.archive, but archive.
[05:54] <kay> aimtrainer: hm have you lok under preference...
[05:54] <binary2k2> yahalom: it may be that there is a heavy load on the server, so you should still try another one
[05:54] <yahalom> binary2k2: cool thanx man
[05:55] <aimtrainer> kay: yea thats the whole point - the prefernces suck
[05:55] <jeroen__> Hi all can someone help me? ive installed nero for linux on my pc but i need a serial nr does someone hase a keygen or so?
[05:56] <aimtrainer> there are hardly an options anymore
[05:56] <Armagguedes>  i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> jeroen__,  i find k3b works better then the nero-linux stuff
[05:56] <kay> aimtrainer: hm... maybe you take your kanotix gaim and try to install it on your kubuntu :D
[05:57] <jeroen__> aha dr willis i use Ubuntu
[05:57] <Dr_willis> jeroen__,  so....
[05:57] <aimtrainer> Ill try googling some more
[05:57] <Dr_willis> install k3b
[05:57] <jeroen__> ok thx dr willis:)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> gnome has some  burtning front ends also.. the reviews of nero-linux are rather.. well.. less then stellar.. :)
[05:58] <snpz> k3b do things the same as Nero
[05:58] <binary2k2> jeroen__: if you use ubuntu, why do you ask on the kubuntu channel?
[05:58] <snpz> so why to use Nero?
[05:58] <snpz> ;)
[05:58] <pyr0> hi sll
[05:58] <pyr0> hi all
[05:58] <pyr0> just finished installing kubuntu
[05:58] <snpz> hi pyr0
[05:58] <pyr0> now i don't know what to do next!
[05:58] <snpz> what do u whant to do next
[05:58] <snpz> ?
[05:58] <snpz> :D
[05:58] <snpz> use it
[05:58] <yahalom> binary2k2: i tried it with us.archive and uk.archive same issue, u still think it's the same reason?
[05:59] <Armagguedes> now you can go and have teh sex
[05:59] <yahalom> 0% [Waiting for headers]
[05:59] <Dr_willis> linux slogan 'what do you want to do next....'
[05:59] <_pyrooo_> heh
[05:59] <jeroen__> binary2k2 dont know how to log into an other
[05:59] <_pyrooo_> now really
[05:59] <_pyrooo_> i know nothing about linux and i really wanna explore, are there any manuals that can help?
[05:59] <binary2k2> jeroen__: type /join #ubuntu
[05:59] <binary2k2> yahalom: hmm
[06:00] <yahalom> binary2k2: its weird cos i can download anything, escept kubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <_pyrooo_> anyone?
[06:00] <abattoir_> _pyrooo_: try the desktop guide
[06:00] <Hawkwind> _pyrooo_: Search the forums and the wiki
[06:00] <abattoir_> _pyrooo_: Kmenu->Help
[06:01] <_pyrooo_> the wiki sucks, i searched it and theres nothing there except the dekstop guide
[06:01] <Hawkwind> _pyrooo_: There are millions of things on the internet to read/do/search when it comes to Linux/Kubuntu
[06:01] <_pyrooo_> amm, i know there are tons about linux i'm used to working with gentoo
[06:01] <_pyrooo_> it has a really big, developed wiki. anyways, i'll search. is there any preffered site to search in?
[06:02] <Hawkwind> The wiki has tons of info, you just have to know what you want to do/accomplish
[06:02] <_pyrooo_> smm
[06:02] <Hawkwind> _pyrooo_: What do you want to do/accomplish exactly ?
[06:02] <_pyrooo_> learn linux. learn the tree, the dirs...
[06:02] <_pyrooo_> commands
[06:02] <abattoir_> !cli
[06:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:02] <binary2k2> yahalom: you could tye looking on packages.ubuntu.com and try downloading the .deb file from one of the many mirrors
[06:02] <andrepose> I have a Kubuntu Dapper Cd How do I install server from it? When I select install it goes to the Live cd version
[06:02] <abattoir_> _pyrooo_: ^^^ basic commands, to get you started
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> uninstall all the unneccecery programs kubuntu installed and install only what i want and need.
[06:03] <andrepose> ?
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> alright thanks
[06:03] <binary2k2> yahalom: then sudo dpkg -i the file and sudo apt-get -f install to get dependences
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> :)
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> yahlaom, plz identify i want to PM you
[06:04] <aimtrainer> Does anybody here still have gaim 1.xx installed and is willing to paste me his prefs.xml please?
[06:04] <andrepose> Can someone help me?
[06:04] <yahalom> binary2k2: same thing
[06:05] <Armagguedes> andrepose, when you boot the liveCD
[06:05] <Armagguedes> on the Desktop you should see
[06:05] <Armagguedes> a "Install" icon
[06:05] <Armagguedes> it's a script that will install the OS
[06:05] <andrepose> yes. So I can still install server from there?
[06:05] <binary2k2> yahalom: strange, it's only that package that won't download?
[06:05] <Armagguedes> i don't think so
[06:05] <Armagguedes> i think you need the server ISO
[06:06] <mluser-home> Could someone please point me to the HOWTO on upgrading dapper -> edgy ?
[06:06] <Armagguedes> mluser-home, you DON'T want to do that
[06:06] <binary2k2> Armagguedes: why not?
[06:06] <_pyrooo_> yahalom, plz identify.
[06:06] <mluser-home> Armagguedes: I already did it on one machine.. but just dont remmember where the howto is
[06:06] <Armagguedes> there is a substancial amount of people reporting all sorts of problems with upgrades
[06:07] <binary2k2> Armagguedes: my upgrade went fine
[06:07] <Armagguedes> if you can, stick to a clean isntall
[06:07] <Armagguedes> ah
[06:07] <khirr> how can i create one folder on usr/local?
[06:07] <Armagguedes> it's your heads then
[06:07] <Armagguedes> mkdir
[06:07] <mluser-home> If it fails.. I'll perform a clean install.. I already have full backups.. just want to try it
[06:07] <mluser-home> Can someone point me to the HOWTO please?
[06:07] <Armagguedes> khirr, though you probably need to sudo mkdir there
[06:07] <binary2k2> mluser-home: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[06:07] <khirr> thanks
[06:08] <mluser-home> binary2k2: Thank you
[06:08] <khirr> how can i copy files there?
[06:08] <mluser-home> I guess I need to install update-manager :)
[06:09] <Armagguedes> sudo cp ORIGIN /usr/local/DESTINATION
[06:09] <Armagguedes>  i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?
[06:09] <abattoir> !upgrade | mluser-home
[06:09] <ubotu> mluser-home: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:10] <andrepose> Okay I have a question about Partitioning, I have two drives one is a 3gig and another is 4 gig.  The 4 gig is primary and 3 is secondary.  Where should I put the swap driver. And how should I configure the rest for server installation?
[06:10] <yahalom> binary2k2: i get unable to fetch headers, maybe try with fix missing, but nothing needs to be fixed
[06:12] <sizzam> i'm considering a switch to kubuntu, i'm using ubuntu now.  is there a good site like www.ubuntuguide.org for Kubuntu?
[06:12] <binary2k2> yahalom: it's strange that it's just kubuntu-desktop that won't download
[06:12] <Dr_willis> andrepose,  i normally put a little swap partitionon each drive  i have.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> how much memory you have on the machine?
[06:12] <yahalom> binary2k2: i know, i had this issue two days ago and someone i solved and i cant figure out how
[06:12] <abattoir> sizzam: many guides there are applicable to kubuntu as well
[06:12] <andrepose> 128meg
[06:13] <andrepose> why put swap on both drives?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> so you proberly want about 512mb swap.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> or more.
[06:13] <abattoir> sizzam: you can try 'kubuntu' from your ubuntu installation as well, if you didn't know
[06:14] <Dr_willis> andrepose,  it can be more efficnent. but i dont think it willmetter much for your case
[06:14] <sizzam> abattoir: any suggestions for guides?  as a new user, i can find them, but i cant determine if they are good or not
[06:14] <yahalom> binary2k2: could it be a repo conflict, same package on two repos that i have?
[06:14] <andrepose> okay so can I put 256 on each drive?
[06:14] <binary2k2> yahalom: I'd try removing all the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[06:14] <sizzam> abattoir: oops, just re-read your comment, thanks
[06:14] <Dr_willis> andrepose,  id say put 512mb swap at the start of the 2nd hard drive.
[06:14] <abattoir> sizzam: i'd recommend the wiki, as it has a lot of useful info...
[06:14] <yahalom> binary2k2: that was it man, i disabled y extra repos and now it works
[06:15] <yahalom> binary2k2: well kind of, its sticky
[06:15] <markelhas> i ppl
[06:15] <abattoir> sizzam: but of course, many of the stuff there make it in from places like the fora and ubuntuguide
[06:15] <sizzam> abattoir: if i try kubuntu in ubuntu and decide i like it, would you recommend a fresh install off of a kubuntu disk?
[06:15] <binary2k2> yahalom: I have several repos in my sources.list, gb fr and mirrorservice, I don't have a problem
[06:15] <andrepose> okay.
[06:15] <markelhas> trying to set up my kubuntu in my desktop, but i'm having problems with the p2p clients
[06:15] <markelhas> can some one give me some tips!?
[06:16] <markelhas> so the thing is
[06:16] <andrepose> should I mount the second drive logical space at any certain point??
[06:16] <andrepose> or can I just mount it at /var/?
[06:16] <yahalom> binary2k2: how do i remove them, sudo rm  /var/lib/apt/lists/
[06:16] <yahalom> *
[06:16] <yahalom> ?
[06:16] <binary2k2> yahalom: that should work
[06:16] <markelhas> i've set the port forw to my desktop but seems somethings wrong cause can't download nothing, everything very slow. 0.1 kbs
[06:17] <abattoir> sizzam: depends on your needs, if feasible you can do that else you can 'remove ubuntu' by removing the ubuntu-desktop package
[06:17] <binary2k2> yahalom: just make sure you don't remove the dir or the partial subdir
[06:17] <abattoir> sizzam: you ofcourse install kubuntu by installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[06:17] <markelhas> is kubuntu blocked? should i do some config!?
[06:17] <sizzam> abattoir: gotcha.  thanks for the advice
[06:17] <yahalom> binary2k2: wont do it
[06:17] <abattoir> sizzam: no problem :)
[06:17] <markelhas> if yes where!?
[06:17] <binary2k2> yahalom: what's the error?
[06:19] <yahalom> binary2k2: rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[06:19] <yahalom> binary2k2: but i type *
[06:19] <binary2k2> yahalom: do a ls on the dir, see if the files are still there
[06:20] <yahalom> binary2k2: 0
[06:20] <markelhas> ppl some help needed!!!
[06:20] <markelhas> only left config p2p client
[06:20] <yahalom> binary2k2: what repos do u use? i use the ubuntguide ones
[06:21] <binary2k2> yahalom: i use the mirrorservice, gb, and fr ones
[06:22] <binary2k2> yahalom: i did a mass pinging session to find the best ones
[06:22] <markelhas> what should i do else then forw the port's for my p2p client!?
[06:22] <markelhas> in my router.
[06:22] <markelhas> does kubuntu needs special config to be able to use p2p clients?
[06:23] <markelhas> neither azureus or ktorrent works in my kubnutu.
[06:23] <binary2k2> markelhas: my p2p clients run fine on kubuntu, but i dont use a router
[06:23] <yahalom> binary2k2: gb for great britain fr for france?
[06:23] <markelhas> i've check in a windows machine and with de same client and works fine
[06:24] <markelhas> binary2k2: so no extra config needed!?
[06:24] <binary2k2> yahalom: yeah, the gb one is actually the same as one with out country code and french derver gives me good ping
[06:25] <binary2k2> markelhas: no, i don't need any extra config
[06:25] <markelhas> i'm using kubuntu in my laptop some time, and i've decided to change in my desktop, but i didn't check the p2p clients before installing
[06:25] <markelhas> now can't use p2p client in it :(
[06:25] <yahalom> binary2k2: i dont get it, cos it finds all it needs, says this many packages, u want to continue, YES
[06:25] <markelhas> should my router have some problem with kubuntu!?
[06:25] <yahalom> binary2k2: 0% fetchign headers
[06:26] <yahalom> binary2k2: this is fr. now
[06:27] <binary2k2> yahalom: strange, if you can fetch the package list then it should have no problem with the packages
[06:27] <yahalom> binary2k2: right. but it keeps doing this until it fails
[06:27] <binary2k2> markelhas: the router should be fine with kubuntu, but i don't use one so I can't say for sure
[06:28] <binary2k2> yahalom: are you behind some kind of proxy?
[06:28] <markelhas> binary2k2: it's strange bacause i've internet over it but no p2p clients
[06:29] <markelhas> binary2k2: can't understand it :(
[06:29] <yahalom> binary2k2: nope, i have a router, but then why did xubuntu-desktop work?
[06:29] <binary2k2> markelhas: maybe your ISP blocks or limits p2p, some do
[06:29] <markelhas> i've try evan upgrade my firmaware roter
[06:29] <markelhas> binary2k2: not because if a connect the cliente via windows machine works fine
[06:30] <mo> Hi
[06:30] <binary2k2> yahalom: sorry to say it but, i have no clue why it's not working
[06:30] <yahalom> binary2k2: oh that so weird
[06:30] <yahalom> binary2k2: i used synaptic and then it said "some packages cannot be received do u want to ignore them?"
[06:30] <mo> I'm having a problem with mkinitrd
[06:30] <binary2k2> markelhas: matbe you have a slow file, on p2p some are fast most are slow
[06:30] <yahalom> binary2k2: so i said yes and now its doing it
[06:31] <yahalom> binary2k2: do i need to file a bug or am i missing something
[06:31] <yahalom> ?
[06:31] <mo> I've compiled <IP_ADDRESS>, and it worked just fine (without lvm support)
[06:31] <mo> And mkinitrd tells me:
[06:31] <yahalom> binary2k2: man u should have waited a min longer :P
[06:32] <mo> "Finding all volume groups - No volume groups found - /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: 253:0: Cannot find LVM device"
[06:32] <binary2k2> yahalom: you'll have to check the dependences of kun
[06:32] <mo> And then just stops
[06:32] <mo> Does anyone have an idea, what I can do about this?
[06:32] <binary2k2> yahalom: *kubuntu-desktop
[06:32] <markelhas> so it's must be a problem with kubuntu or my router/kubuntu
[06:32] <markelhas> binary2k2: same file in windows fast ddl, kubuntu slow, stoped
[06:32] <markelhas> :(
[06:32] <markelhas> binary2k2: i've check so many things, i don't remember what to look more.....
[06:32] <binary2k2> yahalom: to make sure you get them all
[06:32] <_JP> ouch, i just deleted a wrong dir in konq using shift+del
[06:32] <yahalom> binary2k2: yeah. thanx for ur time. u helped.
[06:32] <_JP> any way to restore those deleted files?
[06:32] <yahalom> binary2k2: *kubuntu-desktop just that?
[06:33] <binary2k2> yahalom: if you install all the dependences of that, it will be like it's installed because kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[06:34] <binary2k2> yahalom: I don't know how to help then, sorry
[06:34] <binary2k2> opps
[06:34] <binary2k2> that's to markelhas
[06:34] <yahalom> binary2k2: it works now, i said "u helped me" as in "thank u for helping me"
[06:34] <mo> Why does mkinitrd tell me, that it hasn't found any LVM groups, although I haven't compiled the kernel with lvm support?
[06:34] <binary2k2> yahalom: that's what heppens when you talk to 2 ppl at the same time :P
[06:36] <markelhas> binary2k2: what's for me!?
[06:36] <binary2k2> markelhas: i said: I don't know how to help, sorry
[06:36] <markelhas> binary2k2: oki
[06:37] <binary2k2> markelhas: ask on the forums, you'll get more eyes on the problem
[06:37] <dennister> g'day all
[06:39] <dennister> i'm having a problem with kmplayer vis a vis a particular source, and i'm confused about which config files to edit...no matter what i do, whenever i try to play one source it says xine isn't running
[06:39] <dennister> can someone help me set it up pls?
[06:41] <dennister> binary2k2?
[06:41] <holotone> Every time I turn on my USB hard drive (which mounted fine in the past), now I get this error:
[06:41] <holotone> "mount: can't find /dev/sdb3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[06:41] <binary2k2> dennister: I don't have kmplayer installed so I don't know
[06:41] <holotone> any ideas?
[06:41] <dennister> k, thx anyway
[06:42] <dennister> holotone: have u looked at fstab to see if anything's changed?
[06:42] <holotone> nope, all looks the same
[06:42] <holotone> dennister: I never had to have an entry for this device before, it just automounted
[06:43] <dennister> ok...r u using kcontrol?
[06:43] <wildchild> does anyone here uses terminatorx; I can't set up audio device ?
[06:43] <holotone> dennister: For what? I usually just plug it in, it asks if I want to open in a new window, and I'm done
[06:44] <ira> Q. Any one get KDE4.0 runing in edgy?
[06:45] <ira> I am trying to add the source to adapt but it wont take the line cut and paisted from the web page
[06:45] <dennister> holotone: if u have a terminal window open, just type in "kcontrol"; if not go to k-menu--->control center, or k-menu-->system settings
[06:45] <Random_Transit> can i safely set a root password in ubuntu by using passwd?
[06:46] <dennister> Random_Transit: it's not advisable for safety
[06:46] <dennister> abattoir: :)
[06:47] <abattoir> hello dennister :)
[06:47] <dennister> abattoir: u're always so helpful and knowledgeable...know kmplayer at all?
[06:47] <abattoir> heh
[06:47] <abattoir> dennister: a bit
[06:47] <abattoir> dennister: what do you need?
[06:47] <Random_Transit> dennister, but using passwd won't really screw with anything will it?
[06:47] <dennister> i'm having a problem with xine for one pariticular source...no matter what i do i get "xine not running"
[06:48] <abattoir> dennister: a stream?
[06:48] <Armagguedes>  i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?
[06:48] <dennister> my tuner
[06:48] <abattoir> Armagguedes: i thought it appends a no. to it
[06:49] <abattoir> dennister: have you tried kaffeine?
[06:49] <dennister> Random_Transit: if ur new to k/ubuntu, just don't do it
[06:49] <abattoir> (but since that uses the xine backend too...)
[06:49] <Random_Transit> i'm not new to ubuntu
[06:49] <Armagguedes> abattoir, ??
[06:49] <Armagguedes> what do you mean
[06:49] <dennister> abattoir: yes, but just for movies/avi files and music
[06:50] <abattoir> Armagguedes: from what i've seen, if you have file.ext, and save another file.ext, the second one becomes file(1).ext
[06:50] <dennister> almost everything uses xine as the server
[06:50] <Armagguedes> i'm using "save target as"
[06:50] <Random_Transit> does anyone here know of a way to strip the encryption from DRMed music bought on iTunes?
[06:50] <Armagguedes> or wtv
[06:50] <Armagguedes> not the download manager
[06:51] <abattoir> dennister: i don't really know what is causing the error... any other errors?
[06:51] <dennister> i've been struggling with mplayer's sound, so i thought i could get at kmplayer better, and use it instead...then i found the dvb capability with kmplayer/xine and i'm so excited
[06:51] <abattoir> Armagguedes: oh, then i'm not sure, sorry, maybe there is an extension that fixes that
[06:51] <dennister> hold on:
[06:51] <lupine_85> Random_Transit: solution #1 is to not use iTunes :). But IIRC there /is/ a way to un-DRM them
[06:51] <binary2k2> Random_Transit: only way I know is to burn it to a cd as CD audio and re rip it
[06:51] <abattoir> Random_Transit: there used to be pytunes...
[06:51] <lupine_85> highly illegal, mst likely
[06:52] <abattoir> Random_Transit: but it doesn't support FairPlay, afaik
[06:52] <abattoir> Random_Transit: FairPlay has been broken, but there apparently won't be an opensource app which 'strips' it
[06:52] <Random_Transit> yeah, see, i downloaded this album off of demonoid, but the dude who uploaded it, left the tracks in m4p format
[06:53] <abattoir> but tbh, this really isn't the place to talk about it
[06:53] <holotone> dennister: once I'm in kcontrol, then what?
[06:53] <dennister> abattoir: whenever i type in "kmplayer /dev/video0" all i get, besides the gui popping up with the xine not running message at the bottom, is (in terminal) :
[06:53] <dennister> kxineplayer -wid 41943277 -f '/home/cathy/.kde/share/apps/kmplayer/xine_config' -vo xv -ao alsa -cb kmplayer-9535/KMPlayerCallback-0 -c QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout
[06:53] <abattoir> dennister: and that is the tv tuner card?
[06:54] <dennister> abattoir: it's a hauppauge wintv 250, and it does work
[06:54] <abattoir> dennister: i think you can ignore the QLayout error
[06:54] <abattoir> dennister: tried stuff like mythtv?
[06:54] <dennister> holotone: go to system administration, disks and filesystems
[06:54] <holotone> dennister: Ok, then...?
[06:54] <abattoir> or even kdetv
[06:55] <dennister> abattoir: yes, but mythtv uses the same settings for my tuner as mplayer/kmplayer
[06:55] <abattoir> dennister: sorry, don't know, maybe #mythtv ?
[06:55] <robmag> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:55] <dennister> i need to understand kmplayer, and then i can use my tuner in mythtv...kdetv doesn't support my tuner card
[06:55] <holotone> dennister: entered administrative mode, and right clicked on the partition, selected "modify"
[06:55] <holotone> dennister: but nothing is happening
[06:55] <dennister> holotone: yes
[06:56] <holotone> dennister: nothing at all
[06:56] <dennister> holotone: have u entered administrator mode? and entered password?
[06:56] <holotone> dennister: yes
[06:56] <dennister> hmm
[06:57] <dennister> holotone: is there anything under mount point column?
[06:57] <holotone> dennister: viewing the device in the gnome disc utility says there are no partitions
[06:58] <holotone> dennister: nothing under mount point in kcontrol
[06:58] <joe3k> dennister: don't really know what's goin on but tvtime is a great tv app too
[06:58] <holotone> dennister: unlinke the gnome disk utility, the kcontrol disc utility does show the partitions
[06:59] <dennister> holotone: i'm not up on gnome; try clicking 'new' in kcontrol
[07:00] <dennister> joe3k: tytime only supports bt chipset tuners, not my ivtv tuner
[07:00] <joe3k> dennister: hm i thought general any v4l/v4l2 device, i've saa7134 and works
[07:01] <dennister> i've tried tvtime, "no signal"
[07:01] <dennister> same with motv, kdetv, xawtv...
[07:01] <holotone> dennister: "can't read superblock" after I create new mount through kcontrol and select enable
[07:01] <bthibault> hi, i'm trying to apt-get flashplugin-nonfree , but i don't think i have the right repository listed
[07:01] <bthibault> which one do i need
[07:02] <dennister> holotone: k, you may need to reboot and see if the filesystem is corrupt...and run fsck
[07:02] <joe3k> dennister: does it have at least an v4l[2]  driver?
[07:02] <abattoir> !flashplugin-nonfree
[07:02] <dennister> that "superblock message is worrisome
[07:02] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:02] <abattoir> bthibault: multiverse
[07:03] <dennister> joe3k: it's ok, i've got mythtv almost running perfectly, and it's mainly just the sound that i have to fix...and mythtv is a lot of work
[07:03] <bthibault> abattoir: is this it?
[07:03] <holotone> dennister: how do I run fsck @ boot?
[07:03] <bthibault> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe
[07:03] <bthibault>  multiverse
[07:03] <dennister> so i don't really want to try different tv apps at this poiint
[07:04] <bthibault> i have that line uncommented but it's not working
[07:04] <dennister> holotone: when it's booting up, hit escape key for verbose
[07:04] <holotone> dennister: then?
[07:04] <holotone> dennister: it'll be an option?
[07:04] <dennister> it'll check all the filesystems to see if they're clean or giving error messages
[07:04] <holotone> gotcha
[07:04] <holotone> thanks, rebooting, brb
[07:05] <sizzam> i was using the 'generic' kernel, i then installed nvidia-glx via apt-get, and now after i rebooted, im running the 386 kernel
[07:05] <binary2k2> bthibault: you want the linw deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:05] <binary2k2> line*
[07:05] <bthibault> binary2k2: thanks !
[07:10] <holotone> dennister: hitting esc at boot didn't do anything
[07:11] <holotone> dennister: can I run fsck without rebooting?
[07:11] <binary2k2> holotone: it has to be run while the filesystem is unmounted
[07:12] <holotone> binary2k2: I can't get it to mount anyhow, so that works
[07:12] <holotone> binary2k2: that's actually the problem
[07:12] <binary2k2> holotone: or is that read only? one or the other :P
[07:13] <holotone> what would be the command to check an unmounted fat32 partition located at /dev/sdb3 with fsck?
[07:13] <dennister> holotone: sorry about that bum steer then, it always worked for me
[07:13] <Zarephath> anyone know of a good diary/daily journal program for Kubuntu?
[07:13] <holotone> dennister: no worries..!
[07:14] <holotone> dennister: what would be the command to check an unmounted fat32 partition located at /dev/sdb3 with fsck?
[07:14] <binary2k2> holotone: sudo sfck /dev/sdb3 should work
[07:14] <binary2k2> holotone: sudo fsck /dev/sdb3 rather
[07:15] <holotone> binary2k2: heh, thanks
[07:15] <natex> i recently tried the kde4 testing packages. Is there a way to completely remove it along with everything that was installed with it?
[07:15] <holotone> binary2k2: prompted with "FATs differ, but appear to be intact. Use which FAT?"
[07:15] <Zarephath> holotone,: You can also issue man fsck from the terminal and it will give you details on using it.
[07:15] <dennister> binary2k2: i'll let u help holotone :) u have the commands at ur fingertips :)
[07:16] <holotone> Zarephath: man pages are horribly formatted and never make sense to my brain
[07:16] <binary2k2> dennister: noooooo :P
[07:16] <binary2k2> holotone: do you get any options?
[07:17] <holotone> when running fsck on this partition, I am prompted with "FATs differ, but appear to be intact. Use which FAT?" 1) Use First Fat 2) Use Second FAT
[07:17] <joe3k> holotone: you can do man:/ even in konqueror if you like ;-)
[07:17] <holotone> joe3k: handy tip, thanks!
[07:17] <buz> is there any chance to get a working install of kubuntu onto 1GB of flash?
[07:17] <binary2k2> holotone: try 1
[07:18] <Zarephath> joe3k,: Yeah you can even google for the man pages on the web and get them right there....possibly with different formatting ;-O
[07:18] <holotone> Prompted with "Bad File Name" 1) Drop file, 2) Rename file, 3) Auto-rename 4) keep it
[07:18] <natex> in other words. how can I make sure to remove all deps of a package?
[07:19] <Zarephath> natex, : use the purge option..or use synaptic and it will give you the option to remove all files for a given .deb file
[07:19] <binary2k2> holotone: you can try option 4
[07:19] <ira> any one setup wine32 under amd64?
[07:19] <natex> thanks Zarephath
[07:20] <bthibault> guys, i'm having a performance issue, i'm running on a AMD Sempron 3000, but my process is constantly pegged out, this should be enough to run xorg/ KDE right ?
[07:20] <bthibault> *processor
[07:20] <Zarephath> ira: Uhhh..that might be a tad difficult to do...you can try a loopback setup running 32bit..then install wine under it I suppose
[07:20] <holotone> binary2k2: Ok, now prompted with "Duplicate Directory Entry" 1) Drop First, 2) Drop Second, 3) Rename first, 4) rename second, 5) auto-rename first, 6) auto-rename second
[07:20] <ira> interesting
[07:20] <Zarephath> bthibault, : I would assume so..
[07:21] <joe3k> bthibault: tried process table (ctrl+esc) or "top" ?
[07:21] <binary2k2> holotone: you'll probably want 4 or 5
[07:21] <holotone> binary2k2: another odd thing is that the timestamp on these directories are from 1987
[07:21] <holotone> binary2k2: something's definetly farked
[07:21] <holotone> binary2k2: would it be best to autorename the first or second?
[07:21] <ira> tried this but it didnt work http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557
[07:21] <markelhas> ppl need help config p2p clients, anyone!?
[07:21] <bthibault> joe3k: yeah i've done top, its really not showing much activity, but my superkaramba CPU monitor is showing that its maxed out
[07:22] <joe3k> bthibault: hm maybe it's the superkaramba's CPU monitor that's broken
[07:22] <klerfayt> http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html?skipIntro=1 - doesn't work in konqi
[07:22] <bthibault> joe3k: when i scroll any windows i can see the monitor refreshing every 1-2 seconds its pretty bad
[07:22] <binary2k2> holotone: you can't really tell, just have to pivk one
[07:22] <binary2k2> *pick
[07:23] <bthibault> joe3k: everytime i drag a window around the screen , i see the cpu spike to the max
[07:23] <holotone> binary2k2: I think this is definetly messed up, there seems to be hundreds of duplicate directory entries
[07:23] <holotone> binary2k2: that's not normal, is it?
[07:23] <binary2k2> holotone: no, something messed up your FAT
[07:24] <Armagguedes> probably hamburgers ands pizza
[07:24] <bthibault> probably just time for a new computer
[07:24] <joe3k> bthibault: i have celeron 2,4
[07:24] <natex> Zarephath: I used apt-get autoremove foo
[07:24] <buz> bthibault: sempron 3000 is more than enough
[07:24] <buz> theres something wrong
[07:24] <holotone> binary2k2: any way to save the data? It was a days work there :(
[07:24] <joe3k> bthibault: if you drag window and cpu goes high, it's normal i think
[07:25] <joe3k> bthibault: the scrolling is not so ok though
[07:25] <mentok> anyone know how to get the creative Sound Blaster X-Fi sound card working?
[07:25] <binary2k2> holotone: as long as you choose rename, nothing should be deleted
[07:25] <joe3k> bthibault: can you see which process is causing this?
[07:25] <wildchild> there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You wil not be able to play or record audio. How can I set up layer?
[07:26] <joe3k> bthibault: eg run top in console, make it always on top and try to "scroll"
[07:26] <hollywoodb> wildchild: what app?
[07:26] <binary2k2> wildchild: that audacity?
[07:26] <wildchild> yes
[07:26] <wildchild> audacity
[07:26] <wildchild> binary2k2
[07:27] <bthibault> joe3k: when i scroll down in firefox Xorg is jumping to 94% CPU
[07:27] <binary2k2> wildchild: you have to get aRts to suspend
[07:27] <joe3k> bthibault: does it do on every html page or on any page?
[07:27] <binary2k2> wildchild: you can do it from the aRts applet
[07:27] <wildchild> binary2k2: how
[07:27] <bthibault> joe3k: any page
[07:27] <wildchild> don't even know what's applet
[07:28] <bthibault> joe3k: i also have transluceny and shadow effects turned off so there must be some setting causing it to spike
[07:28] <joe3k> bthibault: is it the same with konqueror?
[07:28] <bthibault> joe3k: let me check
[07:28] <binary2k2> wildchild: right-click on the pannel where the window list is and cloose "Add Applet to Pannel..."
[07:28] <dennister> my god! if this channel was anything like mythtv channel i'd go nuts
[07:28] <joe3k> bthibault: it could be caused maybe by the card drivers, not sure
[07:29] <dennister> i will *never* try to ask for any help there again
[07:29] <binary2k2> wildchild: then choose aRts control and add
[07:29] <joe3k> dennister: why?
[07:29] <dennister> <---is so angry she's shaking
[07:29] <dennister> all they can do is complain about how u ask questions
[07:29] <joe3k> hehe
[07:30] <dennister> brb...i need another pack of smokes to calm down
[07:30] <bthibault> joe3k: yeah, same thing in konqueror
[07:30] <bthibault> joe3k: the card driver thing actually crossed my mind too
[07:30] <joe3k> bthibault: what card/driver do you use?
[07:31] <wildchild> binary2k2: can't find aRts
[07:31] <bthibault> joe3k:  generic i think , i just xorg pick automatically for me :)
[07:31] <joe3k> bthibault: ok
[07:31] <bthibault> joe3k:  can i change by running dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:31] <joe3k> bthibault: i'd just check one more thing: run konqueror/firefox from console and check whether you get any X warnings/errors
[07:31] <bthibault> joe3k: ok, one sec
[07:32] <binary2k2> wildchild: you may need kdeaddons installed
[07:32] <joe3k> bthibault: hehe not sure i never used that stuff
[07:32] <joe3k> bthibault: i had to setup my xorg.conf manually anyway since i have three server layouts
[07:32] <binary2k2> wildchild: or you can try in konsole: killall artsd
[07:32] <bthibault> joe3k: i get this error
[07:32] <bthibault>  	16800
[07:32] <bthibault> joe3k: oops
[07:32] <bthibault> joe3k: this error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[07:33] <joe3k> bthibault: hmmm i think this is harmless
[07:33] <bthibault> ok
[07:33] <joe3k> bthibault: check whether you get some during scrolling
[07:33] <hollywoodb> bthibault: that error is due to wacom devices being listed in your xorg.conf... there's info in the forums how to remove that, but other than that warning it doesn't hurt anything
[07:34] <binary2k2> bthibault: that's just the wacom error, known bug, harmless
[07:34] <bthibault> joe3k: no other erros
[07:34] <walla> can anyone give me a hand with a gtkpod problem?
[07:34] <joe3k> bthibault: ok what's your video card?
[07:34] <bernd_> hi everybody
[07:34] <binary2k2> walla: depends on the problem
[07:34] <bthibault> joe3k: not sure, i'll have to open my box up and check
[07:34] <joe3k> bthibault: lspci will help
[07:34] <walla> it doesn't seem to recognize my ipod
[07:35] <bernd_> can anybody help me with my fstab?
[07:35] <walla> it says there's no listing for media/sda2 in my mtab
[07:35] <mentok> walla: is it mac formatted or win?
[07:35] <bthibault> joe3k:  nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]
[07:35] <binary2k2> walla: have you recently updated it, with itunes or something
[07:35] <walla> win
[07:35] <walla> no
[07:35] <walla> i've uninstalled gtkpod and reinstall about 2 times now
[07:36] <joe3k> bthibault: ok, now check your xorg.conf plz, section "Device", "Driver" option
[07:36] <joe3k> bthibault: you should have nv or nvidia there
[07:36] <walla> and i have no problem adding and removing songs with amarok or the default program that opens with the ipod
[07:36] <joe3k> i think once i had vesa and it was sloooooooow
[07:36] <binary2k2> walla: do you get any errors?
[07:36] <joe3k> bernd_: what do you need?
[07:37] <walla> terminal output - (gtkpod:27588): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed
[07:37] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[07:37] <bthibault> joe3k: it's just listed as generic
[07:37] <aimtrainer> hi! That: linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 is the kernel I need for an intel core duo 2300 right?
[07:37] <walla> and the mstab earror which i mentioned
[07:38] <hollywoodb> aimtrainer: no
[07:38] <aimtrainer> ok which one hollywood?
[07:38] <aimtrainer> :)
[07:38] <joe3k> bthibault: you mean "Driver" "generic"?
[07:38] <binary2k2> walla: did you mount it first
[07:38] <hollywoodb> -generic is fine
[07:39] <walla> it mounts automatically when plugged in
[07:39] <bthibault> joe3k: Driver  "vesa"
[07:39] <joe3k> bthibault: ok that'll be the problem
[07:39] <hollywoodb> aimtrainer: linux-image-generic is fine... 'sudo apt-cache search' will show that linux-image-686 is obsolete (and 2.6.15 is an old kernel version)
[07:39] <binary2k2> walla: is it a mtab error or a fstab error?
[07:39] <aimtrainer> hollywoodb: could you please give me the name of the kernel I need
[07:39] <joe3k> bthibault: you can try to replace the vesa with "nv"
[07:40] <aimtrainer> hollywoodb sry didtn see that
[07:40] <walla> both
[07:40] <aimtrainer> thanks
[07:40] <walla> mount: can't find /media/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:40] <joe3k> bthibault: that's open source driver for nvidia cards, but it can't do 3d
[07:40] <bthibault> joe3k: ok i'll do that and restart X
[07:40] <bthibault> joe3k: thanks, i'll be back in a sec
[07:40] <joe3k> bthibault: if you want the "full power" you need nvidia-glx
[07:40] <joe3k> !nvidia
[07:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:40] <joe3k> bthibault: here it is
[07:40] <twosouls82> or nvidia-glx-legacy if you have an older card
[07:41] <binary2k2> walla: try adding a line like "/dev/sda2 /media/sda2 vfat defaults,noauto 0 0" to /etc/fstab
[07:41] <joe3k> bthibault: it's easy just need to install few packages and set the "Driver" to "nvidia"
[07:42] <tdn> How do I access my Compact Flash card from Kubuntu? I have a PCMCIA CF-readeer. When I insert the CF card nothing happens. I am watching dmesg, but nothing new appears.
[07:43] <walla> well when i closed gtkpod i get this output
[07:43] <walla> umount: /media/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[07:43] <walla> and adding a line that line to fstab didn't work
[07:45] <tdn> Oups. Something does indeed appeaar in dmesg. (I was looking at dmesg at the wrong host) This is what I get in dmesg: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=303
[07:45] <binary2k2> walla: then it must not be mounted, remove the line from fstab, open konsole and type pmount /dev/sda2
[07:46] <Blissex> tdn: it is probably one of the many buggy PCMCIA chipsets (hde: lost interrupt)
[07:46] <walla> Error: device /dev/sda2 is already mounted to /media/ipod
[07:46] <walla> that's the message i get when i try to mount it
[07:46] <tdn> Blissex, I have an IBM Thinkpad T42. Do you know if that has a buggy PCMCIA chipset? Do you have any suggestions on what to do?
[07:47] <binary2k2> is there any files in /media/ipod ?
[07:47] <eilker> !vesa > eilker
[07:47] <Blissex> tdn: the CF reader...
[07:48] <tdn> Blissex, is the CF reader broken?
[07:48] <walla> i found a tutorial for install gtkpod, i think i'll just try running through that to see if i missed something
[07:49] <eilker> people i have login problem , and i saw in forums it may releated with video card driver, do i need to modify xorg.conf for getting vesa driver __?
[07:49] <Blissex> tdn: pretty likely.
[07:50] <Blissex> eilker: that usually works, even if a bit more slowly.
[07:50] <wildchild> binary2k2: if ur still here I added aRts ..
[07:51] <binary2k2> wildchild: if you right click on the applet and cloose "aRts Status" you can then suspend aRts
[07:51] <tdn> Blissex, is it broken by design or is it broken like something has become defective in it and I should complain to the retailer to get a new reader?
[07:51] <wildchild> binary2k2: ok
[07:51] <Blissex> tdn: probably by design.
[07:51] <wildchild> binary2k2:will now work
[07:52] <binary2k2> wildchild: that's how I get audacity to work for me
[07:52] <eilker> blissex: what must i do for getting vesa ? this is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31273/
[07:52] <tdn> Blissex, ok. It is from Kingston. Do you know anywhere I can check if this is a model known to cause problems in Linux? It works perfectly fine in Windows.
[07:53] <wildchild> binary2k2: now it says: please check the output audio device
[07:53] <wildchild> binary2k2: and the project sample rate
[07:53] <eilker> blissex: Driver	"vesa"   // is tihs enough in xorg.conf ?
[07:53] <Blissex> tdn: google it... Whether it works with MS Windows is quite unimportant. And whether it _really_ works in MS Windows is another problem...
[07:53] <Blissex> eilker: usually yes.
[07:54] <binary2k2> wildchild: have a look in the setting or audacity to make sure its setup right
[07:56] <wildchild> binary2k2: error start when I click on the icon of audacity: there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You wil not be able to play or record audio
[07:56] <tdn> Blissex, what do you mean by "_really_ works"?
[07:56] <binary2k2> try pressing Alt-F2 and run "sudo killall -9 artsd"
[07:57] <binary2k2> change to "kdesu killall -9 artsd"
[07:57] <Blissex> tdn: reliably. Instead of just appearing to work.
[07:57] <bthibault> joe3k: ahh, thats better
[07:57] <bthibault> joe3k: thanks
[07:57] <joe3k> bthibault: you're welcome
[07:58] <joe3k> bthibault: did you notice the nvidia binary howto?
[07:58] <bthibault> joe3k: no i didn't
[07:58] <joe3k> bthibault: if you ever want to use 3d acceleration you'll need to use the nvidia binary drivers
[07:58] <joe3k> !nvidia
[07:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <joe3k> bthibault: it's easy just need to install few packages and set the "Driver" to "nvidia"
[07:58] <bthibault> joe3k: so use this instead of the generic nv driver?
[07:59] <joe3k> bthibault: if you're lucky with 2d you don't need to
[07:59] <joe3k> bthibault: otherwise yes
[07:59] <tdn> Blissex, ok.
[07:59] <joe3k> bthibault: i tried to tell you but you were too fast :)
[08:00] <bthibault> joe3k: ha, thanks, i appreciate the help , owe you a beer
[08:00] <joe3k> hehe
[08:01] <wildchild> binary2k2: dosn't help. Maybe i don't have correct set up in system settings -> sound system
[08:02] <binary2k2> wildchild: I just have the default set up in sound system and I have it working
[08:02] <wildchild> :s
[08:02] <eilker> !tdfx >eilker
[08:02] <wildchild> how is that with amarok don't have problems..
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tdfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <ryanakca> how do you draw a custom trajectory in open office impress?
[08:05] <dennister> !mplayer
[08:05] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:05] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:05] <Dendeigh> hi there - does anybody know, what can cause df to report wrong available size on an ext3-partition?
[08:08] <nextstate> I just got a new AMD X2 and the 64bit install of kubuntu fails while trying to boot linux. Anybody run into this problem before?
[08:09] <Dendeigh> nextstate: what is the error message an what motherboard are you using?
[08:09] <Jack1> hi
[08:09] <nextstate> I'm using an asus crosshair
[08:09] <Jack1> can anyone help? after an edgy upgrade i  cannot login anymore, just startx starts a gnome session
[08:10] <Jack1> it kicks me out after few secs
[08:10] <nextstate> the error is something about a kernel param? sorry I've forgotton
[08:11] <Dendeigh> nextstate: I had similar problems on an Asus M2N-E - I had to update the BIOS to fix this (before I always ran into kernel panic with ACPI enabled)
[08:11] <nextstate> Dendeigh: so I need to disable ACPI?
[08:11] <nextstate> in the bios?
[08:12] <Dendeigh> no, you can disable ACPI while booting the install CD
[08:12] <Dendeigh> what error message do you get?
[08:12] <nextstate> oh, you mean a kernal param
[08:12] <Dendeigh> yes
[08:12] <nextstate> Dendeigh: gimee a sec to reboot the machine
[08:13] <Dendeigh> "noapic acpi=off" ...
[08:13] <Dendeigh> Jack1: does the login-screen show up on boot?
[08:15] <nextstate> Dendeigh: kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Try using the 'noaipic' kernel parameter
[08:15] <nextstate> maybe I should read the error messages more carefully :)
[08:16] <Lam_> when i used windows, i would sometimes compress rar files with a password and make it so that you can't peek inside to see filenames of the contents.  now that i'm on linux, anytime i try to decompress those rar files, ark archiver crashes
[08:16] <Dendeigh> nextstate: that is exactly the same message I got - I would suggest a BIOS upgrade
[08:18] <nextstate> Dendeigh: ok, I'll look for one. I used the 'noapic' param and it seems to be booting into kubuntu now. thanks.
[08:19] <Jack1> Dendeigh: yes it does
[08:19] <Jack1> Dendeigh: BUT THEN IT KICKS ME OUT AND I AM at the login screen again
[08:19] <hollywoodb> Lam_: try unrar in a terminal
[08:19] <Lam_> hollywoodb: ok i'll try that. thanks
[08:20] <Dendeigh> Jack1:  ok, have you checked the logfiles?
[08:21] <Dendeigh> Jack1:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log & /var/log/syslog
[08:21] <Jack1> not Dendeigh
[08:21] <Jack1> mom Dendeigh
[08:29] <nagyv> hello! I would like to help a friend to activate it's wifi card, but I ude KDE and he uses GNOME. I decided to try out remote desktop. He authorized me, but the connection is just building up, but never succeeds. The krdc window seems to be frozen.
[08:30] <nagyv> I put into krdc: vnc:/his.ipa.ddr.ess:0 Is this the right way?
[08:35] <Jack1> Dendeigh: hmm i can see it here from windows but its an editor file and it is weird to read
[08:35] <Jack1> Dendeigh: what should i look for ? file is long
[08:44] <dennister> anyone have any idea how to 'recompile' an application like mplayer?
[08:46] <Dr_willis> get the source.. compile away.. :)
[08:46] <Dr_willis> or learn how to build from the src-debs  - never done that.
[08:46] <zorglu_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85190 <- is aboutmplayer compilation, quite old thru
[08:46] <Bubba_Gump> is there a quick way to flip between the player window and the full maximised screen in Amarok ?
[08:46] <zorglu_> im interested too about a newer version of mplayer :)
[08:46] <Hawkwind> dennister: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[08:46] <dennister> thx...compiling scares me
[08:46] <Hawkwind> dennister: Read that URL to learn how to build .debs really easily
[08:47] <dennister> hi hawkwind :)
[08:47] <dennister> and yet someone last night said i should recompile my kernel, too
[08:48] <Dr_willis> why bother - unless thers somthing you need in the newer ones.
[08:48] <Hawkwind> dennister: I build the latest kernel for Dapper/Edgy the day it's released on kernel.org.  I have a script that does it all for me and builds .deb packages of it
[08:48] <vieira> hi ppl
[08:49] <vieira> can u help me out config amule?
[08:49] <zorglu_> in the new versions of mplayer, there is -fixed-vo which can be interesting
[08:49] <vieira> tryng to ddl serve list but can't connect
[08:49] <dennister> i just want mplayer to work :( to give me sound...i think it's a codecs problem
[08:49] <vieira> says  Failed to download the server list from http://ed2k.2x4u.de/hkaoxqzu/min/server.met
[08:49] <Dr_willis> its always a codec problem. :)
[08:49] <vieira> any tips!?
[08:49] <zorglu_> dennister: this is unlikely to be a version problem
[08:49] <Dr_willis> vieira,  perhaps the server is down..
[08:49] <dennister> and yet with my previous installation of edgy mplay did work
[08:50] <Dr_willis> vieira,  check the amule page for alternatives perhaps. (never used amule)
[08:50] <dennister> *mplayer
[08:50] <vieira> Dr_willis: i can't config any p2p client in my kubuntu
[08:50] <vieira> Dr_willis: 0.0kb speed
[08:51] <vieira> Dr_willis: i've config every ports fw in my router
[08:51] <Jack1> has anyone got any idea for my prob describe above? the login thing?
[08:51] <dennister> and these man pages and the documentation on the mplayer site go on forever
[08:51] <vieira> Dr_willis: i think my router has problems with linux
[08:51] <Dr_willis> vieira,  sounds like a router/ports issue - or set the box to be on the routers dmz.
[08:51] <zorglu_> dennister: try simple video with easy codec
[08:51] <Dr_willis> ktorrent, and others can auto-set the ports  on routers that have upnp features
[08:51] <vieira> Dr_willis: can u give me some help trying to solve this!?
[08:51] <Dr_willis> vieira,  could try  utorrent.exe and wine. :)
[08:52] <vieira> Dr_willis: the fwr of the ports are ok because if a connect via windows ddl works just fine
[08:52] <Dr_willis> vieira,  id see if the router has a dmz setting, and set the linux box to be on the dmz.
[08:52] <joe3k> dennister: if you don't need completely new version, only add few patches i'd consider using apt-get build-dep and source, then debuild, it's much easier
[08:52] <dennister> kinda difficult to grasp all at once...zorglu: mplayer works when i use an avi file, but yesterday it worked for tuner output and today with this install it doesn't
[08:52] <vieira> Dr_willis: utorrent works just fine in windows :8
[08:52] <Dr_willis> could be some firewall stuff under linux blocking it.. but ive not had the issue.
[08:52] <Dr_willis> im using  'wine utorrent.exe' right now. :)
[08:53] <vieira> Dr_willis: humm going to try to see if there is a dmz zone config in the router
[08:53] <zorglu_> dennister: this confirms this is not a mplayer version issue
[08:53] <Dr_willis> torrennts can be such... a hassle.. :)
[08:53] <vieira> Dr_willis: yap, i've put in dmz zone
[08:53] <vieira> Dr_willis: and now?
[08:53] <dennister> my head is swimming...yes, which is why i'm giving it...not only am i unwilling to (at this point) learn how to recompile, but i don't think it's really necessary
[08:54] <Bubba_Gump> Dr_willis: heh, and a distraction, too :D
[08:54] <Dr_willis> vieira,  try the torrents again.. :) what else.
[08:54] <Dr_willis> could go to one of the 'torrent check' sites that scans your box to insure the ports are open.
[08:54] <vieira> Dr_willis: that's it!
[08:54] <Dr_willis> You sure when you boot to linux - it gets the same ip as when you are booted to windows. :)
[08:54] <hollywoodb> dennister: try vlc perhaps... I've been having the occasional odd audio error with mplayer as well... I'm going to try fetch the codecs tarball from mplayer's site and unpack it myself
[08:54] <vieira> Dr_willis: no changes the same :(
[08:55] <vieira> Dr_willis: 0.0 kb/s
[08:55] <nagyv> is here anyone who already used a vncclient? I would like to help out a GNOME using friend, and try out vnc at the same time. He already started a vncserver and allowed view access, but I can not connect.
[08:55] <vieira> Dr_willis: some times 0.2 or 0.3 nothing better than that
[08:56] <dennister> i just installed vlc, but it's not showing up in my menus yet...
[08:56] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  he ran 'vncserver' or did he just enable desktop shareing.
[08:56] <vieira> ppl any ideias!?
[08:57] <vieira> just for remark the torrent is running fast in a windows machine
[08:57] <Dr_willis> vieira,  try  http://www.utorrent.com/testport.php?port=14548
[08:57] <nagyv> Dr_willis: both, but when running vncserver the system talked about a password, although he also set up a password when allowed shareing. (He first allowed sharing, and then we realized that there is no vncserver installed nor running)
[08:57] <dennister> would someone be able willing to look at my konsole output with mplayer...and take a stab at telling me how to fix the mplayer sound/codec issue?
[08:57] <vieira> also try azures in both machines
[08:57] <hollywoodb> dennister: pastebin it
[08:57] <dennister> !pastebin
[08:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:58] <Dr_willis> vieira,  try wine and utorrent, try the other torrent toublshooting sites - they may mention yoru router.
[08:58] <Dr_willis> check to see if you set up any firewalling rules on the linxu box.
[08:58] <vieira> Dr_willis: where can i check firewalling setting in linux!?
[08:59] <vieira> the link u gave me i've change to port because ktorrent uses 6881, and says ok
[08:59] <vieira> Dr_willis: but the slow connections is there :(
[09:00] <Dr_willis> its possible that utorrent under windows is NOT using that port.. it may be your isp blocking that port.
[09:00] <Dr_willis> utorrent can even randomize that port.
[09:01] <zorglu_> hmm it was a error, mplayer -fixed-vo doesnt work even on cvs version from yesterday  :)
[09:01] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get amarok working with MTP?
[09:01] <dennister> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31293/
[09:02] <dennister> i do have the codecs that the mplayer output refers to, btw, mplayer just can't find them
[09:03] <Dr_willis> it may be looking in the wrong place.
[09:03] <dennister> exactly
[09:03] <Dr_willis> when ya start mplayer from the shell. it may print out where its looking
[09:03] <dennister> that's what my pastebin is: output from the shell
[09:04] <Dr_willis> usr/lib/codecs/wnvplay1.dll
[09:04] <Dr_willis> seems to be where mine are at.
[09:04] <zorglu_> dennister: Try adding the scale filter, e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp. ?
[09:04] <hollywoodb> dennister: I don't have a /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll either, in fact I don't have it at all... have other codecs though
[09:05] <zorglu_> btw -fixed-vo seems to work but only in full screen
[09:06] <Dr_willis>  /usr/lib/win32    but no avisynth.dll either
[09:06] <dennister> my codecs are in /usr/lib/codecs and /usr/lib/win32...hold on, no avisyth...tons of others
[09:06] <hollywoodb> I'm downloading the official codecs pack from mplayerhq.hu now to see if its in there
[09:07] <dennister> thx hollywoodb
[09:07] <Dr_willis> i have a avisynth.dll  in my cedega/windows dirs :)
[09:07] <hollywoodb> dennister: the stuff in /usr/lib/win32 are just symlinks to /usr/lib/codecs
[09:07] <zeeo> hey guys when i'm playing Pandora.com radio a flash based radio it runs fine for 10 15 mins then it seems when say kmess trys to make a beep or sound
[09:07] <zeeo> it makes that sound then the pandora
[09:07] <zeeo> stops working
[09:07] <zeeo> and i have to close firefox
[09:07] <zeeo> and all that
[09:07] <zeeo> and reopen
[09:07] <zeeo> to fix
[09:07] <hollywoodb> !enter | zeeo
[09:07] <ubotu> zeeo: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:08] <Dr_willis> zeeo,  using the flash9 beta?
[09:08] <zeeo> lol ya i flood
[09:08] <zeeo> dr willis just what is
[09:08] <zeeo> instlaled with firefox
[09:09] <zeeo> wow net split?
[09:10] <Dr_willis> !flash
[09:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:10] <Dr_willis> Flash 9 just came out a few weeks ago.
[09:10] <Dr_willis> its in beta testing.
[09:11] <dennister> zorglu: i tried the scale addition u mentioned, but it's for video scaling and my problem is with audio
[09:11] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: You mean flash 9 _beta_ came out, actual release haven't been yet.
[09:11] <Tm_T> And yes, there's big difference.
[09:13] <steveire> Hey, Is there a keyboard binding to switch tabs in Konsole?
[09:14] <Dr_willis> steveire,  i looked for that the other day - and didetn seem to find one.
[09:14] <nacer> hi hi
[09:14] <hollywoodb> dennister: avisynth.dll isn't in 'essential' or 'all' codec packs from mplayerhq.hu
[09:14] <Dr_willis> im so used to using alt-# under xchat
[09:14] <steveire> Dr_willis: Pity. It would be very useful.
[09:15] <Dr_willis> the #kde guys may know. ive looked - i may of overlooked it.
[09:15] <hollywoodb> dennister: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2006-June/061232.html
[09:16] <dennister> ok, if avisynth isn't essential, why is my tuner saying it is/can't find it
[09:16] <Dr_willis> could be some oddball codec
[09:18] <hollywoodb> dennister: https://www.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-discuss-ubuntu/2006-October/000310.html
[09:18] <hollywoodb> dennister: it sounds like the version of mplayer in the ubuntu repos is outdated
[09:18] <dennister> it seems thatway, 'oddball' as i said, the mplayer i installed with edgy the other day had working sound for tuner...this install's sound doesn't work
[09:19] <Dr_willis> steveire,  told ya they would know. :)
[09:19] <Dr_willis> what odd bindings to use...
[09:19] <Dr_willis> the only avisynth i can find is in --> .transgaming/c_drive/windows/system32/avisynth.dll
[09:19] <Dr_willis> no idea what/how it got there. :)
[09:19] <zeeo> i don't think the prob i'm having with sound is flash cuz if the song is still paying on pandora
[09:20] <zeeo> the sound from kmess
[09:20] <zeeo> can't play
[09:20] <zeeo> at all
[09:20] <zeeo> till the song is done
[09:20] <zeeo> so its allmost like its not runing in full deplex or some crap
[09:20] <zeeo> like i can't play more then one sonud at a time
[09:20] <Dr_willis> zeeo,  we are going to remove your enter key....
[09:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:20] <zeeo> :O sorry its a habit
[09:21] <Dr_willis> zeeo,  thats a common description of an arts/esd/alsa/oss/soundserver issue.
[09:21] <manchicken> Is there a way to apt-get source, build the source, and then install it without hosing your dpkg database?
[09:21] <Dr_willis> Im listenign to the site now.   :) but i have a Creative Audigy Card. what sound card do you have zeeo ?
[09:21] <dennister> ok, so its a bug with edgy...i'm going to try and reinstall it, as it worked with my edgy installation before this one
[09:21] <zeeo> i'm runing a laptop
[09:22] <zeeo> its a dell inspiron 1200
[09:22] <manchicken> Can you actually "jam" to Kenny G?
[09:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:22] <zeeo> how can i found out what card its runing
[09:22] <dennister> bback soon
[09:22] <Dr_willis> google   the ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forums/laptop area zeeo  perhaps otehrs have similer sound issues.
[09:23] <zeeo> k
[09:25] <Dr_willis> that site is streaming very well  :) considreing how lagged/torrent download-loaded i am.
[09:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:28] <Dr_willis> heh - it just hung on me zeeo
[09:28] <Dr_willis> got a sound loop going da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.....
[09:29] <manchicken> Anybody?
[09:30] <mentok> does anyone know about getting a SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card running in Edgy?
[09:30] <Dr_willis> mentok,  last i looked that card was not supported under linux yet.
[09:31] <Dr_willis> that was about 2 mo ago. It may of changed by now.
[09:31] <mentok> Dr_willis: hmm, any workarounds?
[09:31] <Dr_willis> wait for a driver. :)
[09:31] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey guys how do you shutdown processes on ubuntu
[09:31] <mentok> Dr_willis:  dang :(
[09:31] <mentok> Dr_willis:  thanks
[09:31] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do i shutdown startup processes?
[09:31] <Dr_willis> do some googling see if the stuff is even being worked on. I guess.
[09:32] <mentok> Dr_willis: that sounds like a good idea
[09:32] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: KMenu -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Services
[09:32] <Dr_willis> mentok,  its possible it may be comming out soon, or being worked on.. i put off gettting one for a few months  due to the linux not supported yet issue. :)
[09:32] <Dr_willis> My audigy2zs is doing very well - :) and its a lot cheaper now.
[09:32] <mentok> Dr_willis: yeah, I would have except I've needed midi quick, and I have a dual boot
[09:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywoodb: there is no advanced on my system settings
[09:33] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: yes there is
[09:33] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: at the top
[09:33] <mentok> Dr_willis: of course they didnt' seem to have any audigy's at best buy
[09:33] <Dr_willis> ive yet to ever have anything that actually hooked to the midi port. :)
[09:33] <mentok> Dr_willis: ah
[09:33] <mentok> Dr_willis: I got a midi controller recently, that thing is awesome
[09:33] <Dr_willis> mentok,  ive basicially given up on bestbuy.. Ive been paying attention to their prices.. and.. well they really (@&!@&@ you over if you are not carefull.
[09:34] <Dr_willis> BUt they do have a good return policy :)
[09:34] <dany21> hello... does anybody use gestures within KDE? they are generally working... but i have one problem: i cant sent [alt] [f4]  for closing a prog... the gesture gets recognised - but i get no action... anybody tried before?
[09:34] <mentok> Dr_willis: I was surprised because the card I got would have cost more on newegg than at best buy
[09:34] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywoodb: no there isnt is like the last file and its grey cannot really make it out but i found it
[09:34] <mentok> Dr_willis: usually its the other wat around
[09:34] <Dr_willis> mentok,  you got lucky then.. or they screwed up. :)
[09:34] <mentok> hehe
[09:34] <mentok> yeah
[09:34] <Dr_willis> Their very well 'educated' clerk tagged the wrong box. :)
[09:35] <mentok> Dr_willis: hehe, so true
[09:35] <Dr_willis> or he tagged it wrongly for a friend...
[09:35] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywoodb: do i coose the halt option
[09:35] <Th3_Cr0up13R> which of the options is the not run option
[09:35] <mentok> defiintley
[09:35] <Dr_willis> I got a laptop from BB once, and a docking bay.. and they failed to notice the bay on the cart.. and let me walk out with it. :)
[09:35] <mentok> wow
[09:35] <Dr_willis> i dident even notice till 4 mo later on the reciete.
[09:35] <mentok> crazy
[09:35] <Dr_willis> saved me $200, heh
[09:36] <mentok> thats sweet
[09:36] <mentok> they gouge you for so much might as well have a freebie once in a while
[09:36] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: use 'Service Services' , not 'Service Manager'
[09:36] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: 'System Services' I meant
[09:36] <Dr_willis> then i took the laptop back (it broke) got a refund , they charged me 10% restocking fee..   and i sold the docking bay to a guy. :)
[09:36] <Dr_willis> net cost to me.. renting a laptop for 6Mo.. = $100
[09:37] <mentok> ha!
[09:37] <mentok> awesome
[09:37] <mentok> of course the stupid restocking fee is always annoying
[09:37] <Dr_willis> I had taken the laptop back 4 times...
[09:37] <mentok> its not like their clerks are too busy doing other things
[09:37] <mentok> really?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> the case had an issue where the thing kept cracking.
[09:38] <mentok> oh
[09:38] <mentok> that sounds like an issue for the manuf.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> yea - some sort of manafacyture defect on the first run of the laptop
[09:39] <Dr_willis> got sick of it.. got a diffrent laptop. then hated it. they had none the 'same or better' as my first one.. so i said *#&@&^@ you all.. give me my $$ back
[09:39] <Dr_willis> I did falter and got a 2nd laptop form them a year ago.. on sale.. display model.. with $250 rebate from them... then i managed to get a $200 rebate from HP. :P
[09:39] <Dr_willis> aparently the HP rebate was not supposed to  be at the same time the BB rebate was scheduled.. but i got it on the 2 days they overlapped.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> its a good little linux laptop now.
[09:40] <mentok> sweet
[09:40] <mentok> thats luck
[09:40] <Dr_willis> yep.. win some . lose some.
[09:40] <mentok> definitley
[09:41] <Dr_willis> like the $200 monitor that blows up the day after the warrenty expires.
[09:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:41] <mentok> yeah
[09:41] <mentok> murphey's law is very accurate
[09:41] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: you mean the turion you bought?
[09:41] <mentok> strangely so
[09:42] <unix_infidel> or is this ia nother one?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> yea - turion
[09:42] <unix_infidel> hah, you got a turion for 50 bucks?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> since the bios update.. its been a solid linux box.  even got wireless going.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> it came out to be like $300 i think total.. i learned to get the extenede warrenty
[09:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:42] <mentok> which linux?
[09:42] <Lars_G> Greetings all
[09:43] <Dr_willis> i should of kept that docking bay from the first laptop. it would work with this one.
[09:43] <Dr_willis> its running Kubuntu now.
[09:43] <Lars_G> Question, what package does one need for giving one the possibility of decoding mp3 audio in k3b to burn to an audio cd?
[09:43] <mentok> awesome
[09:43] <hollywoodb> ha! I was going to give the WoW 10-day trial a shot under Cedega... 2.86GB download... nothx
[09:43] <Dr_willis> the only thing i cant get going on it yet. is the media reader slots.. not sure what the deal is.
[09:43] <unix_infidel> yea, i'm seriously considering buying an other laptop but one of those 300 dollar sempron or compaqs dont jive very well.
[09:43] <unix_infidel> i'd rather buy like an older pM ultraporable off ebay for ~300
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,  that is answered in the KUBUNTU FAQ. :)   i saw it just yesterday there.
[09:43] <mentok> I've had some problems with those also
[09:44] <Lars_G> Dr_willis: I am sorry then :)
[09:44] <unix_infidel> and add another GiG of rAM
[09:44] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: I've got a dell Penium M 1.8 + 1GB RAM, intel gfx & 14.1" LCD for around $400 + shipping... and now they have Turion notebooks for $600 or better
[09:44] <youser> guysi need some serious help
[09:44] <Dr_willis> problem gets to be -  the older one may die at any time.. then what... a new one at least you can return it...
[09:44] <youser> "operatingsystem not found"
[09:44] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: which model?
[09:44] <youser> i woke up this morning and mydesktop looked fine but it couldnt find any apps or files
[09:45] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: you can get new dell dual core's for 600 fully speced.
[09:45] <youser> soi restarted and got oprating system not found
[09:45] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: mine is an Inspiron B130, but you can't configure it with my hardware via dell's website... coupon code via techbargains.com
[09:45] <Lars_G> Dr_willis: You are correct. I am sorry for bringing up the question without perusing the FAQ first.
[09:45] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: honestly, i've had a really good run with IBM's
[09:45] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: I like IBM/Lenovo, but I can't afford it ;)
[09:45] <unix_infidel> i wouldnt consider buying an old dell...
[09:45] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,  i just happened to rember its there. :)
[09:46] <unix_infidel> especially out of CC warranty.
[09:46] <vandenoever> dell latitude x1?
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,   plus it coveres other programs.
[09:46] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: all the hardware on this Inspiron is supported under linux, though I haven't tested the modem
[09:46] <Lars_G> Ah I need the multiverse it seems
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,  i cant even tell you what other things the faq covers.. but i rember that. heh
[09:46] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: right, but can it survive a drop to the floor?
[09:46] <lovely> alsalamo 3alaykom
[09:47] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: dunno... I'm not willing to test it at the moment ;)
[09:47] <lovely> hi every body
[09:47] <youser> can anyone help me
[09:47] <lovely> hellow
[09:47] <youser> it seems i cant even reinstall dapper
[09:47] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: heh, i just did like 15 minutes ago with an IBM
[09:47] <Lars_G> unix_infidel: Myself I've had good luck with Toshiba machines while I used pc laptops.
[09:47] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: I throw it in my backpack and occasionally bump it into things that way, but that's a bit of a different kind of contact
[09:47] <unix_infidel> i'd like a tablet PC but i couldnt see it being viable at all.
[09:49] <youser> *cries
[09:53] <ttoine> is tonio somewhere on irc this evening ?
[09:58] <stodge> I can't use the NVIDIA driver:   Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!
[09:58] <stodge> Do I need to install all updates in Edgy before it will work?
[09:59] <stodge> I tried this:       sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:59] <joe3k> stodge: try sudo modprobe nvidia
[09:59] <stodge> Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:00] <joe3k> hm no idea what does have modprobe to do with xorg.conf :)
[10:00] <Lars_G> stodge: fix youf config, you surely are using the "nv" driver instead of "nvidia"
[10:00] <joe3k> stodge: take a look into xorg.conf whether you have "Driver" nvidia
[10:00] <stodge> I thought that was configured by the  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:01] <joe3k> stodge: i think it should have been, but it can't hurt to check it ;-)
[10:01] <stodge> Ok that may have been the problem
[10:01] <stodge> I'll just restart X - thanks for your help!
[10:02] <joe3k> ok
[10:02] <eilker> !dyndns > eilker
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dyndns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <walla> does anyone know a program that i can use for copying album art onto my ipod without using gtkpod?
[10:04] <eilker> what is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server ?  is the difference only lamp server ?
[10:07] <hollywoodb> eilker: does ubuntu-server include ubuntu-desktop?
[10:08] <eilker> hollywoodb: i have no idea...
[10:08] <mike__> Hi folks - X won't start for me now - "no devices detected"
[10:08] <skipjack> hello has here someone an idea what I must do when I have an Intranet domain (thochguertel.de) and the Internet domain thochguertel.de .. so and when I ping thochguertel.de that I ping out of the Intranet (that I get the Internet IP of this domain) and so that for all other subdomaisn who not registered in bind9 ?
[10:08] <hollywoodb> eilker: me either, but I'm guessing it doesn't, which is a pretty big difference ;)
[10:08] <eilker> hollywoodb: :))
[10:08] <wildchild> what packages do I have to install for compyling?
[10:08] <hollywoodb> wildchild: build-essential
[10:09] <mike__> BusId is PCI:0:5:0
[10:10] <Shaddar> hi ... anyone knows how to change the symbol/image/icon of firefox in the upper left corner ?
[10:10] <stodge> I'll reboot maybe that will help
[10:11] <aimtrainer> hi! Im running edgy on a samsng x11 and my wlan card ipw3945 is detected now (eth1) after having installed the restricted modules. But I cant make it work. knetworkmanager doesnt even find it
[10:14] <shulman> hi all -- I'm having trouble with Firefox 2.0 on Edgy closing out constantly, mostly due to flash. I've tried applying the flash fix to the firefoxrc file without any success. Is there anything else that I should be doing to get flash to work properly?
[10:14] <stodge> That was damn - Kubuntu configured the wrong PCI address in xorg.conf for my card
[10:15] <stodge> (damn = dumb)
[10:17] <hollywoodb> shulman: which flash version are you using?
[10:19] <shulman> hollywoodb: checking now... I installed the latest version off of apt-get
[10:20] <vranikx> hello all, i have problem with playing system sounds in kubuntu, sound in xmms or mplayer are fine, what i must do for correct this error?
[10:21] <shulman> hollywoodb: flashplayer-mozilla is at version 6.0.72-0.2
[10:22] <hollywoodb> shulman: try enabling seveas repo and there you can find update to flash 9 beta... see if that helps resolve the issue
[10:22] <hollywoodb> !seveas | shulman
[10:22] <ubotu> shulman: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:22] <vieira> hey need help config mldonkey anyone!?
[10:22] <shulman> hollywoodb: thanks... I'll look into it right now
[10:23] <hollywoodb> shulman: once you get that repo going, 'apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree'
[10:23] <vieira> hollywoodb: hi dude, can u give me some tips config mldonkey?
[10:23] <hollywoodb> vieira: nope. I don't use any P2P apps except the occasional torrent
[10:24] <shulman> hollywoodb: do repositories exist for edgy eft? the page you sent me to only has repos listed for dapper
[10:24] <vieira> hollywoodb: oki thnks
[10:24] <hollywoodb> shulman: yep... just change 'dapper' to 'edgy'
[10:24] <hollywoodb> shulman: something like: deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ edgy-seveas all
[10:25] <vieira> hollywoodb: just simple can put any p2p client working in kubuntu
[10:26] <vieira> hollywoodb: i think have to get back to windows on desktop to use p2p client and only use kubuntu on my lapto
[10:26] <denver1> anyone from aust
[10:26] <vieira> p
[10:27] <hollywoodb> vieira: all you have to to for torrent is forward ports 6881-6999 -> your internal IP.  no idea about the rest of p2p clients
[10:27] <vieira> hollywoodb: it's very strange cause every one says to me that it's fine on them, but simple can't pu it work
[10:27] <hollywoodb> vieira: no idea
[10:28] <vieira> hollywoodb: i've done that. i thinks it's a router problem with linux
[10:28] <vieira> hollywoodb: ok dude thnks any way
[10:28] <hollywoodb> vieira: doubt it, I've never had any issues with my router or linux
[10:29] <vieira> hollywoodb: can't tell simple use the same client in the same network and torrent, windows ddl fine in linux 0.0kb
[10:29] <vieira> hollywoodb: i'm tired :(
[10:29] <vieira> hollywoodb: 3 days trying to solve it
[10:29] <shulman> hollywoodb: it's still freezing up firefox
[10:31] <rojikaru> I need more help, on how to set up my sound.
[10:31] <rojikaru> audio
[10:32] <vieira_> hollywoodb: any one that u now that uses p2p clients?
[10:32] <vieira_> hollywoodb: that can help me out of course
[10:33] <hollywoodb> vieira_: see if there's a p2p-related channel
[10:34] <hollywoodb> shulman: did you copy over your ~/.mozilla from a previous installation or upgrade ?
[10:34] <lorenzo_> hello
[10:35] <vieira_> hollywoodb: oki
[10:35] <shulman> hollywoodb: I just upgraded from dapper, and firefox got upgraded
[10:36] <hollywoodb> shulman: try move your ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup or something and try it, perhaps there's something in your firefox profile that's causing issue... also, if you have flash-player-nonfree AND flashplayer-mozilla, remove flashplayer-mozilla and restart firefox... that's about all I can think of
[10:37] <shulman> hollywoodb: One of the internet forums I was going through just mentioned this might be related to the nvidia kernel that I was using on my previous version. I'm going to try upgrading it
[10:37] <walla> has anyone had any problems with an ipod not playing files that were transfered using amarok?
[10:42] <uri3000> alright then, i'm having a bit of trouble here. occasionally, in kde, i have to move my mouse pointer to the side of things to be able to click them. i don't really know how to describe it. i can't move my mouse pointer to the left edge of my screen, and it will go completely off of the right side.
[10:43] <intelikey> i've got something hosed.... i just installed ubuntu and kde and was test running things before i turn it over to it's owner... the three user accounts will use different desktops gnome kde and blackbox   the first run went ok but the second login for bb ; X tripped out and i wanted to test grub settings anyway so i rebooted.  now all i can get for any user is an rxvt terminal   setting the session does nothing to affect t
[10:43] <denver1> has anyone done an apt-get dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy and had any problems?
[10:43] <intelikey> yes denver1 many
[10:43] <denver1> so a clean install is best?
[10:44] <intelikey> best.... meeh  better.
[10:44] <intelikey> anyone on gdm problem ?
[10:45] <hollywoodb> intelikey: I think its safe to assume that most of #kubuntu is using kdm
[10:45] <uri3000> does anyone have any idea what my problem is?  i originally installed ubuntu, and then installed kubuntu-desktop. this problem didn't happen until i installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <uri3000> it sometimes happens in gnome, too
[10:47] <uri3000> if you need more information or don't understand what i'm trying to say or missed my first message, please tell me
[10:47] <intelikey> hollywoodb   i try to not assume too much
[10:47] <intelikey> but xdm does the same thing....
[10:48] <uri3000> what the heck, my mouse works normally now.
[10:49] <Tater> is there anyway to tell how big a partition is on a drive and what filesystem type it is without mounting it
[10:49] <hollywoodb> intelikey: when X "tripped out" and you rebooted, how did you reboot?
[10:49] <intelikey> init 1
[10:49] <intelikey> errr 6
[10:50] <hollywoodb> Tater: sudo parted /dev/hda print all  (assuming /dev/hda is the disk you want info on)
[10:50] <Tater> hollywoodb, sweet thanks
[10:50] <uri3000> and now for my next problem: sound doesn't work properly in kde. i think it's the mixer but I don't know how to fix it. in gnome, using alsaplayer, i can hear sound perfectly, like from flash videos and whatnot, but in kde, the only sound i can hear is the system startup sound.
[10:50] <Ace2016> disable arts?
[10:51] <Acc\Deny> Hello can someone plz check if http://archives.linmodems.org/ really works? I ask it to search for modem and it says nothing...
[10:51] <uri3000> i remember trying that in debian... how does one do that again?
[10:52] <Ace2016> kcontrol > sound & multimedia > Sound System
[10:52] <uri3000> thank you, i'll try that
[10:52] <Ace2016> and uncheck "Enable the sound system"
[10:52] <hollywoodb> Acc\Deny: no matter what I put it says no results found
[10:52] <Tater> hollywoodb, well it just says it can't detect the filesystem on the partitions I'm curious about :P
[10:53] <kubuntu> I have a slight issue
[10:53] <hollywoodb> Tater: using LVM? if not, parted should detect it if they are valid partitions
[10:53] <uri3000> ah! thank you, Ace2016, you rock
[10:53] <Ace2016> np
[10:53] <Tater> hollywoodb, what I'm trying to do is mount the root partition of the hdd from my laptop on my deskktop pc so I can pull some files from it and install edgy then slap it back in the laptop
[10:53] <kubuntu> How do I reset my keyboard?
[10:53] <Tater> hollywoodb, Maybe the drive is toast I dunno, it had dapper drake default install on it
[10:53] <Acc\Deny> hollywoodb: thank you!
[10:54] <Acc\Deny> kubuntu: you are brave to call it a SLIGHT issue :)
[10:54] <Ace2016> uri3000: you could also try setting the "Auto suspend if idle after:" to 1 second so that when an arts app stops using alsa other apps can use it
[10:54] <kubuntu> I'm a brave kinda dude
[10:55] <uri3000> Ace2016: what advantage would that have over just disabling it altogether?
[10:55] <kubuntu> I pressed a multimedia key on the Keyboard and now I can't alt+tab or Alt+space :(
[10:55] <kubuntu> Sooo How can I reset
[10:56] <Tater> hollywoodb, I got the boot partition to mount on that drive but I can't mount the root partition
[10:56] <Tater> no matter what I toss in the fstab
[10:56] <hollywoodb> Tater: is it using LVM ?
[10:56] <intelikey> ok using kdm is even worse.  i don't get anythin but  an error message and back to the xlogin     message 'cannot open theme /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu
[10:56] <Acc\Deny> If linux can't find a driver for a device, does it still create a device file for it in /dev?
[10:56] <Tater> hollywoodb, I have no idea what LVM is
[10:57] <intelikey> at least with gdm the user had an input method....
[10:57] <Ace2016> uri3000: i think some apps require arts for sound output, if you don't use any then there is no need for the sound system to be running
[10:57] <intelikey> Acc\Deny generally speaking no.
[10:57] <hollywoodb> Tater: Logical Volume Management, you can string drives together using one or multiple partitions with it... it doesn't behave like a normal partition
[10:57] <uri3000> Ace2016: ah, okay. i'll see how that works
[10:57] <kubuntu> How can I check what my keys are mapped to?
[10:57] <intelikey> scankeys ?
[10:58] <Tater> hollywoodb, I doubt LVM is enabled then as it was the only drive in my laptop
[10:58] <kubuntu> Oh and Amarok went nuts and I had to kill it
[10:58] <kubuntu> intelikey: moi?
[10:58] <Tater> hollywoodb, there isn't even a cd drive or floppy drive in that laptop just the hdd
[10:58] <intelikey> ja
[10:58] <hollywoodb> Tater: maybe that partition is shot then, hard to say... but some distros (like Fedora Core) set up LVM as default no matter what
[10:59] <Acc\Deny> ok what is the name of hardware detection utility/daemon/tool in ubuntu?
[10:59] <Tater> hollywoodb, It had kubuntu dapper installed on it
[10:59] <Tater> hollywoodb, and everytime I try to mount it I get a must specify filesystem error
[10:59] <kubuntu> intelikey: Do I have to install it
[10:59] <Tater> hollywoodb, is there anyway to try to repair the partition
[10:59] <kubuntu> I think it's just my alt key that's gone
[10:59] <hollywoodb> Tater: well if parted says its an unknown type, that's bad. if you KNOW what type it is you could attempt to run fsck on it
[11:00] <Tater> I'm 99 percent sure its reiserfs
[11:00] <icheyne> has anyone got an opinion on SpinRite? Is it worth getting?
[11:00] <intelikey> kubuntu no i gave the wrong name... let me check.
[11:01] <intelikey> getkeycodes
[11:01] <kubuntu> intelikey: Oh wait :-P I have to do this on a tty console?
[11:02] <intelikey> mmmm terminal might work also...
[11:04] <kubuntu> intelikey: I'm good now :)
[11:04] <compu73rg33k> I like ubuntu, but my family wants to try linux and I think KDE would be a better GUI for them...does kubuntu run well?
[11:04] <kubuntu> The Windows key sticks
[11:04] <compu73rg33k> doing the Windows -> Linux switch :)
[11:04] <klerfayt> compu73rg33k: kubuntu is same as ubuntu
[11:04] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: You can install both
[11:05] <compu73rg33k> klerfayt: yeah but it's KDE instead of gnome
[11:05] <kubuntu> It's the same but I think that Kubuntu is a bit more persuasive if they are power users and Ubuntu is good if they like simplicity
[11:05] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: IMHO
[11:05] <compu73rg33k> Hmm they're not power users, but I think KDE is more user friendly to people used to windows
[11:05] <kubuntu> It is
[11:06] <kubuntu> not to discount Gnome it's very easy once you spend a day with them
[11:06] <compu73rg33k> yeah I like gnome but sometimes i feel it's over simplified
[11:06] <Ace2016> kubuntu is like ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome and everyone knows that kde is better so you should use kubuntu :)
[11:06] <kubuntu> I would say to go with the one you are most comfortble with
[11:06] <compu73rg33k> I'm using Gnome right now and I love it
[11:06] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: Granted this help Chan might be more friendly :)
[11:06] <Electrolyte> I'm thinking of trying it.
[11:06] <compu73rg33k> hehe Ace2016 I say they're both great :)
[11:07] <kubuntu> They are. Different interfaces to the same good gooey core :)
[11:07] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: Tell you what. Download the Kubuntu Live CD and give it a whirl
[11:07] <compu73rg33k> yeah I already downlaoded it :)
[11:07] <Electrolyte> I'm about to do that with the Ubuntu CD :P
[11:08] <compu73rg33k> just need to finish bakcing up their e-mails which I'm'a go do and then install Windwos (For my brother & his faggot games) and then installing Kubuntu for my parents
[11:08] <compu73rg33k> Kubuntu doens't have any problems with dual booting right?
[11:08] <LjL> !language | compu73rg33k
[11:08] <ubotu> compu73rg33k: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:08] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell compu73rg33k about dualboot
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> In Ubuntu how do I unplug/eject a USB device? like in windows u had to right click on the icon in the bottom right corner of system tray....?
[11:08] <kubuntu> Acc\Deny: Is it on the desktop?
[11:09] <compu73rg33k> yeah Mine shows up on my desktop Acc\Deny
[11:09] <Ace2016> Acc\Deny: kde has safely remove and if you plug it in it shows up on the desktop, very slick
[11:09] <compu73rg33k> ubotu: dualboot ?
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualboot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Ace2016> when its on the desktop you can right click and do safely remove
[11:09] <compu73rg33k> ubotu: dualboot
[11:09] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:11] <kubuntu> What do I need to install to get MusicBrainz To work?
[11:11] <zeeo> hey i need a good repositorie list can some one help me out with that
[11:11] <Electrolyte> Can you actually use GNome on Kubuntu?
[11:12] <kubuntu> !repos
[11:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:12] <kubuntu> Electrolyte: Sure
[11:12] <Electrolyte> I'll try the Live CD first :)
[11:12] <Acc\Deny> kubuntu: Ace2016: No idea. I am about to fiddle with a device that I am SURE linux will not recognise... it a microcontoller...
[11:12] <kubuntu> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <zeeo> i'm looking for more repositorie
[11:12] <Electrolyte> I want to see how GNome is - if I like it, I'll probably just install Ubuntu.
[11:12] <zeeo> not just how to enable them
[11:12] <Acc\Deny> just wondering how eject is implemented in linux so i dont blow this device....
[11:12] <kubuntu> !easysource
[11:12] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:12] <zeeo> thx
[11:13] <s> hello. i need some help please. I want to copy a dvd to another dvd but i don't know how to do this in kubuntu
[11:13] <Ace2016> Acc\Deny: oh i thought you said usb stick
[11:13] <kubuntu> s: try k3b
[11:13] <kubuntu> Acc\Deny: How are you going to be using it?
[11:14] <kubuntu> As a device or on the file system?
[11:14] <zeeo> seems that http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic don't have 6.10 yet
[11:14] <kubuntu> zeeo: I'm fairly certain if you change the word dapper to edgy in whatever you get out it will work
[11:15] <zeeo> k
[11:15] <buzzy> ragazzi ora sembrea che vada....bah
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> kubuntu: No idea yet, its suppose to be a microcontoller or modem device inside this fixed wireless terminal for internet access...
[11:16] <kubuntu> Whee D-Bus is out :)
[11:16] <arriesp> ola
[11:16] <kubuntu> Acc\Deny: Well as long as you don't pipe in something crazy into the /dev device I think you should be good
[11:16] <kubuntu> arriesp: ola
[11:17] <Bubba_Gump> how do I install themes downloaded from KDE-look.org?
[11:18] <kubuntu> Bubba_Gump: It normally has instructions in it
[11:18] <shulman> I just tried reinstalling the nvidia kernel onto my system and managed to hose it so X won't start.  What do I need to do to reinstall it?
[11:19] <Bubba_Gump> kubuntu: i've downloaded three, and all hold no instructions within them
[11:19] <kubuntu> Bubba_Gump: Hmm WHich three?
[11:19] <kubuntu> Gimmie the URLs
[11:19] <Bubba_Gump> k
[11:20] <troy> does anyone know if there are any python 2.5 packages for edgy anyplace?
[11:20] <Bubba_Gump> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=33944
[11:20] <Bubba_Gump> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29314
[11:21] <troy> nevermind, found them :)
[11:21] <Bubba_Gump> i forget the other one
[11:22] <kubuntu> nstallation:
[11:22] <kubuntu>  1) Unpack the archive.
[11:22] <kubuntu>  2) Click on the file "SmoothGray.kth" from Konqueror.
[11:22] <kubuntu> That doesn't work I'll assume :)
[11:23] <Bubba_Gump> kubuntu: nope :)