[03:39] <RichardPrice> Hi, can anyone tell me what the bridge configuration should be for Multipass and lxd so my instances can be reached from the network?  I have multipass installed, and I have switched to lxd as the backend, but Im still not getting IPs from my networks DHCP server, just the internal multipass one (in the 10.x range rather than my 192.168.x range).
[03:39] <RichardPrice> "multipass networks" shows:
[03:39] <RichardPrice> eno1    ethernet  Ethernet device
[03:39] <RichardPrice> enp8s0  ethernet  Ethernet device
[03:39] <RichardPrice> lxdbr0  bridge    Network bridge
[03:39] <RichardPrice> mpbr0   bridge    Network bridge for Multipass
[04:06] <RichardPrice> the answer is "dont use the bridge lxd sets up for you, make your own"


[02:44] <snatcher> >selected local keyboard layout on install >added english layout manually from widget to enter username/password/lvm etc >cannot login while there is no english layout only local after installation
[02:44] <snatcher> wtf?
[03:03] <wxl> snatcher: afaik that's par for the course with *buntu and perhaps more widely than that. i'm trying to find the bug report, but i know i've come across this before.
[03:14] <snatcher> really strange while *buntu is most popular distros, there is no such a problem even on gentoo while english layout included/enabled by default (for tty at least) and you can add/remove additional layouts, on lubuntu even cannot login on tty in such a case because local layout also attached to tty (where you can use only english layout because of posix(?) limitations), what a mess
[03:16] <tomreyn> i think i filed one similar to this, but not lubuntu specific
[03:16] <tomreyn> bug 1826567
[03:17] <tomreyn> ah but you use the other installer IIRC, so ignore, sorry.
[12:43] <Seallv> hello
[12:45] <Seallv> I am using Flameshot program on Lubuntu 19. For some reason when i installed it "prnt scn" button didnt open flameshot but the default lubuntu screenshot program. I just used the tray icon mouse2 click and did screenshot this way. Now i have need to use hotkey for it, becaues i want to capture the fullscreen - tray isnt shown in fullscreen.
[12:46] <Seallv> I went to menu -> settings -> LXQT settings -> hotkeys and changed "print" button from "lximage-qt -s" to "/usr/bin/flameshot gui" and now my print screen button doesnt do anything at all. Even when in change it back to old command it doesnt work.
[12:47] <Seallv> Also when i click on "print" button when dialog box on same button appears to set command for it - i cannot change it. It waits 10 seconds and whichever button i click it doesnt respond.
[12:48] <Seallv> "/usr/bin/flameshot gui" works just fine from CLI
 Hello. you also have gtk2 crash problems and pcmanfm freeze? I have lubuntu 18.04.LTS
 @Mainframe1986 [Hello. you also have gtk2 crash problems and pcmanfm freeze? I have lubuntu 18.0 …], Yed
 Yes, that's one of the issues why I prefer lxqt over lxde
 @HMollerCl [Yes, that's one of the issues why I prefer lxqt over lxde], I agree with you. I have always supported innovation .. but do not abandon a project just because it will be replaced .. things must be resolved and completed ..
 @Mainframe1986 [I agree with you. I have always supported innovation .. but do not abandon a pro …], We have reported that bug in lxde more than a years ago, there hasn't been a solution, most of lxde active developer have move to lxqt
 Lxde development is stalled
 @HMollerCl [Lxde development is stalled], Already .. sin .. I only say that an LTS must be maintained until the end. Patience .. waiting 20.04
[23:32] <isthis4real57468> has anyone gotten livepatch working on lubuntu?
[23:42] <kc2bez> isthis4real57468: livepatch only works on LTS versions of (L) Ubuntu.
[23:43] <kc2bez> Here is the wiki page for livepatch https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch
[23:44] <tomreyn> sam thing they were told in respnse to the same question in #kubuntu
[23:44] <tomreyn> *sane
[23:44] <isthis4real57468> i know its probably meant for ubuntu proper...just curious if it still downloads and boots, or at which step it fails
[23:44] <tomreyn> also same
 @Mainframe1986 [Already .. sin .. I only say that an LTS must be maintained until the end. Patie …], unfortunately we as lubuntu, does not have the manpower to maintain lxde. And apparently lxde doesn't have that either, last complete release was in nov2016. https://blog.lxde.org/2016/11/22/lxde-common-0-99-2-released/
[23:45] <isthis4real57468> tomreyn do you run all versions? i thought thered be an adventurous soul running at least one version who's been successful or lived to tell the horror that ensued..
[23:45] <tomreyn> isthis4real57468: do you know what LTS is?
[23:45] <tomreyn> !LTS
[23:45] <kc2bez> Well I personally don't see the need for my desktop but I don't see why it isn't possible isthis4real57468
[23:45] <tomreyn> it's not about which ubuntu flavour you run
[23:46] <isthis4real57468> lts is ever 2 years...saying ubuntu proper though, means Im excluding lu,ku,xu,whatever buntu
[23:46] <tomreyn> and i'm telling you you dont need to exclude them
[23:46] <kc2bez> livepatch only applies to the kernel which is the same for all flavors.
[23:47] <isthis4real57468> but the docs clearly state only the lts versions work...but they dont CLEARLY say that lubuntu xubuntu etc wont work...also kernels are pretty seperate from de and userland...
[23:47] <isthis4real57468> so i was hoping technologically it could work, but maybe ubuntu checks the version and blocks download or something ...
[23:48] <tomreyn> we seem to have communication problems
[23:48] <tomreyn> maybe just read again what was written so far
 @Mainframe1986 [Already .. sin .. I only say that an LTS must be maintained until the end. Patie …], Here is the bug, check if it's the same or different https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1782984


 I entered both networks in maas 'network' tab, added 2 interfaces (one of each network) to the cluster, and even 'juju status' is showing me both networks. any clue?
[21:53] <wurde> juju and maas seems promising, wish there were more tutorials of the two used side by side
[21:59] <francokaerntna> wurde: it is indeed! Works nearly out of the box (still needed 3 days to make it work)
[22:00] <wurde> hey franco
[22:01] <wurde> I feel that way, but it's off my surface level impressions and I'm reading the maas docs.
[22:01] <jackweirdy> Lets say I have a service that I deploy to production with Juju, and I do my development locally. Is it feasible to do development inside a local juju deployment, then commit the code, and have my CI server deploy to production via Juju? Or is that crazy talk. I ask because we have a complicated mesh of dependencies, whose configuration and deployment Juju solves quite nicely. Seems weird to have that benefit for
[22:01] <jackweirdy>  production but not development
[22:02] <jackweirdy> Hello everyone, btw :)


[09:18] <stereoit> Hi, is it possible to create some sort of runlevel for safe upgrading using upstart?
[12:27] <JanC> stereoit_: I suppose that should be possible, but I don't know if anybody ever did
[12:28] <stereoit_> JanC, thanks anyway.


[00:35] <mesquka> hi
[04:31] <mesquka> hi
[05:05] <mesquka> hi
[05:14] <bradm> hi
[05:14] <mesquka> whats the latest news?
[05:22] <bradm> dunno, I'm just working away
[05:40] <mesquka> right, anything on ubuntu phone?
[05:43] <bradm> I haven't heard anything more
[06:02] <lifeless> CES presentation hasn't happened yet AFAICT
[06:03] <lifeless> don't expect to hear anything until after that, it would be under wraps
[06:07] <mesquka> ok
[06:07] <mesquka> when is the ces?
[23:48] <mesquka> hi
[23:56] <mesquka> jea? jarred? is anyone on


[04:10] <mhall119> follow Ubuntu TV on Google+ https://plus.google.com/104659991254860976283
[07:41] <jussi> Morning all
[07:41] <jussi> Is it planned a version of the TV unity will come out with precise?
[07:47] <popey> jussi: no
[08:01] <jussi> popey: when do you expect it to be available ?
[08:01] <jussi> in alpha format
[08:31] <popey> soon
[08:53]  * AlanBell wonders how much of a working demo it is at CES
[08:55] <AlanBell> and who it is that likes "in the night garden"
[08:55] <AlanBell> iggle piggle is the jar jar binks of children's TV
[09:47] <mcbaine1> mornin' all
[09:55] <popey> heh AlanBell
[09:57] <popey> AlanBell: there is some functionality working, but not a huge amount
[09:57] <popey> code will be available 'soon'
[09:57] <popey> soon as in hours not weeks
[09:57] <AlanBell> ok, so stuff does move
[09:57] <popey> yes
[09:57] <popey> its not static, its not just a video
[09:57] <AlanBell> cool
[09:58] <popey> if I wasn't in Budapest I'd offer for you to come over to my house to see it :D
[10:42] <dmj726> popey: this is great news!
[12:07] <MobileDruif> I hope Canonical has had a good laugh about everyone in this channel thinking of having any influence. It's a shame that everything is developed already in secrecy
[12:07] <AlanBell> nice
[12:07] <AlanBell> MobileDruif: relax
[12:07] <AlanBell> it isn't already developed in secrecy
[12:08] <MobileDruif> At least that's my idea of how it went
[12:10] <MobileDruif> AlanBell: tell me how I *should* look at the current developments? (Developments being the announcements made at CES/the released code?)
[12:23] <MobileDruif> Can you*
[12:23] <mhall119> did everyone follow https://plus.google.com/104659991254860976283 yet?
[12:24] <MobileDruif> mhall119: I do
[12:26] <daker> mhall119, the images are real or just mockups ?
[12:26] <mhall119> daker: a real demo
[12:26] <mhall119> daker: you can watch the video at http://www.ubuntu.com/tv
[12:27] <MobileDruif> daker: newest omgubuntu article apparently has a vid
[12:27] <MobileDruif> Haha
[12:28] <daker> mhall119, sorry but they fail at product launch!
[12:29] <MobileDruif> Anyhow, anyone capable of explaining the situation to me?
[12:29] <daker> mhall119, see the difference http://www.google.com/tv/
[12:33] <mhall119> daker: they're not pitching it to consumers, they're pitching it to manufacturers
[12:34] <daker> it's the same,you are launching a product ツ
[12:38] <daker> mhall119, it will work on my 32" LG LCD-TV ?
[12:40] <MobileDruif> Does it have 2GB of disk space and 1GB of RAM?
[12:42] <daker> the TV ?
[12:43] <MobileDruif> Yeah, what else?
[12:44] <daker> it depends on the OEM
[12:45] <MobileDruif> http://www.ubuntu.com/tv/features-and-specs
[12:49] <mhall119> code is up: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv
[12:49] <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing
[12:50] <jussi> mhall119: yay!
[12:50] <jussi> mhall119: are there packages yet?
[12:50] <jussi> ie. a ppa?
[12:52] <mhall119> jussi: not that I see
[12:52] <jussi> :(
[12:52] <mhall119> jussi: there wasn't even a bzr branch last night
[12:52] <jussi> mhall119: yeah, I just figured whoever wrote that code mightve actually packaged it also
[12:53] <mhall119> jussi: I can ask around, but since they're at CES I may not get a response
[12:53] <jussi> mhall119: ok
[12:54] <jussi> branch wont check out for me :/
[12:54] <jussi> Permission denied (publickey).
[12:54] <jussi> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[12:55] <mhall119> weird, let me try
[12:56] <jussi> popey: also, you need to update the entry message: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots (re: ubuntulog)
[12:56] <mhall119> jussi: worked for me, maybe it was just a connection issue?
[12:56] <spikeb> is there a FAQ for ubuntu tv yet?
[12:56] <jussi> mhall119: no, Ive tried several times and the message says something about pubkey
[12:57] <mhall119> yeah, that's an ssh error...
[12:57] <mhall119> have you tried bzr launchpad-login?
[12:58] <jussi> I hadnt, but just did, returns my user (jussi01) and then the other thing fails
[12:59] <jussi> mhall119: its not somehow limited to employees is it?
[12:59] <mhall119> jussi: launchpad says it's public
[13:00] <jussi> hrm
[13:00] <jussi> wonder whats happening there.
[13:00] <jussi> conspiricy, Ive been blocked!!! :P
[13:00] <mhall119> do you have your ssh pubkey on launchpad?
[13:00] <jussi> hrm, this is the work machine, lemme check.
[13:01] <mhall119> jussi: also, try viewing http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv/ubuntutv/trunk/files
[13:01] <jussi> ahh bollocks, this machine isnt on LP. lemme upload it.
[13:02] <jussi> and yeah, browsing works
[13:04] <jussi> mhall119: right, works now. thanks for the troubleshooting :)
[13:05] <mhall119> np
[13:06] <mhall119> I just had to bribe an official to look the other way so I could let you in on the conspiracy ;)
[13:06] <jussi> lol
[13:07] <jussi> ooh, theres a debian folder there...
[13:07] <MobileDruif> Haha
[13:07] <jussi> I wonder if we can stick this into a PPA some how... ?
[13:07] <mhall119> worth a shot
[13:08] <MobileDruif> Should be doable
[13:08] <MobileDruif> It's already on lp right?
[13:09] <jussi> yup
[13:09] <jussi> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv
[13:09] <MobileDruif> Can't it be put in a ppa from that page?
[13:10] <spikeb> ooh, a video lens for unity. cool.
[13:10] <MobileDruif> Might be nice
[13:11] <mhall119> MobileDruif: PPAs are only for people and teams
[13:12] <MobileDruif> And ubuntu-tv isn't a team?
[13:12] <mhall119> oh, you're right
[13:12]  * mhall119 hasn't had his morning coffee yet
[13:13] <mhall119> then yes, we could make a ppa for the team and host packages there
[13:13]  * MobileDruif neither
[13:14] <MobileDruif> ;D
[13:14]  * jussi smiles at mhall119
[13:15]  * MobileDruif gives mhall119 his morning coffee ;)
[13:18]  * jussi waits for mhall119 to provide the ppa line and an eta for packages built :D
[13:21] <jussi> anyways, local copy building now
[13:22] <jussi> also: sudo apt-get install debhelper dh-translations cmake pkg-config libqt4-dev libqt4-opengl-dev libglib2.0-dev libwnck-3-dev libpango1.0-dev libqtgconf-dev libdconf-qt-dev libqtbamf-dev libqtdee-dev libdbusmenu-qt-dev libx11-dev libindicator3-dev libgtk-3-dev libutouch-geis-dev libstartup-notification0-dev libunity-core-4.0-dev libnux-1.0-dev libxi-dev
[13:22] <jussi> theres the build deps for it on one line ;)
[13:22] <MobileDruif> Ghehe
[13:23] <jussi> mhall119: also, would be nice to have the bug tracker, translations, blueprints and answers opened for this
[13:24] <MobileDruif> Oeh, translations :D
[13:24] <MobileDruif> We already had a request for that :P
[13:25] <sladen> hello people
[13:25] <sladen> seems the CES thing has hit the interwebs
[13:25] <sladen> MobileDruif: and what makes you think you haven't or are not having an influence?
[13:26] <dmj726> Actually, it looks like a lot of the ideas discussed in this channel and mailing list have been taken into consideration
[13:26]  * jussi waves to sladen
[13:27] <jussi> sladen: when are you coming to visit me again ?
[13:27] <sladen> jussi: remember that time I came up there (in a rush, admittedly), bumped into the son of the person I'd gone to visit in Muhos
[13:28] <dmj726> sladen: might I be accurate on that?  Otherwise there seems to have been a lot of ideas come up with independently
[13:28] <MobileDruif> That might be so, but still: because everything code-wise was developed without any info one way our the other made me feel left out
[13:28] <sladen> jussi: shall be back for Sauna at some point.  Is it snowing there?
[13:28] <dmj726> MobileDruif: I can understand where you're coming from there
[13:29] <MobileDruif> Or*
[13:29] <dmj726> definitely digging the design though
[13:29] <sladen> MobileDruif: what you're seeing is a prototype/mockup/test-framework.  It will then be possible to take those design ideas, interate/discuss/evolve them more easily now there's something public and demoable and work on the implementation itself
[13:30] <sladen> MobileDruif: if you look around this channel there are people like Kaleo who is suddenly very relieved and jumping for joy when I saw him a few minutes ago
[13:31] <sladen> dmj726: yes, there are people listening in the channel even if they've not been able to say much on certain subjects
[13:32] <dmj726> definitely glad to see the second screen and third party applications aspects included
[13:35] <MobileDruif> The last few months have been eerily quiet. We've asked for more direction from above, but nothing was given. Except Marks blog-post saying we had some great ideas (even referring to our feature list), have we been stagnant. I think it's a shame that it's only been going in one-direction. I'm just letting my frustrations speak now.
[13:36] <MobileDruif> I'm not one to hold a grudge, so make a clean slate and continue with this great project
[13:36] <dmj726> Yeah, I think a lot of us would like to get feedback on what Canonical people are thinking and also start hacking on the platform ourselves
[13:37] <dmj726> this release definitely helps on that front
[13:38] <MobileDruif> sladen: I hope you understand where I'm coming from
[13:39] <jussi> sladen: excellent. and yes, we have snow (~50cm) but no, its not snowing currently
[13:40] <sladen> MobileDruif: yes, the CES deadline, was a bit fixed.  Things were focused on getting something (based on the ideas at UDS, and since) ready for CES.  Which is a pretty short amount of time (2 months since end of UDS, of which the holiday eat quite a chunk)
[13:40] <jussi> so, quick question for those in the know. Ive made this and installed it, is it now a selection from login? or?
[13:40] <sladen> jussi: what's "this" ?
[13:40] <sladen> jussi: links, URLs, ?
[13:41]  * jussi points to scroll back and adds:  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv
[13:41] <MobileDruif> Code on the ubuntu-tv lp sladen
[13:42]  * jussi says meh and goes to try
[13:46] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: hi!
[13:46] <Kaleo> hi others!
[13:46] <MobileDruif> Kaleo: Aloha :)
[13:46] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: I am sorry the code was private for a few weeks
[13:47] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: it's kind of an experiment thing
[13:47] <mhall119> wow, the channel is starting to get busy now!
[13:47] <MobileDruif> ...and the conversation?
[13:47] <jussi> meh, doesnt seem to be there :(
[13:47] <jussi> Kaleo: how do I start it?
[13:48] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: and I also am sorry about the lack of presence from me here
[13:48] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: the reason is very plain: working extremely hard for a few weeks
[13:49] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: (I had my girlfriend complaining every day..)
[13:50] <MobileDruif> Kaleo: sorry to hear that your girlfriend complained everyday
[13:51] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: she is relieved now :)
[13:51] <sladen> ahem
[13:51] <MobileDruif> Woops, wrong button
[13:51] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: :)
[13:52] <jussi> so seriously, no one can tell me how to start it?
[13:52] <jussi> Kaleo: mhall119 ?
[13:53] <Kaleo> jussi: I can!
[13:53] <jussi> Kaleo: please do! :D
[13:53] <Kaleo> jussi: though it is in the wiki no?
[13:53] <jussi> Kaleo: Ive compiled (cmake, make make install). what now?
[13:54] <jussi> Kaleo: which wiki where?
[13:54] <Kaleo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing
[13:54] <Kaleo> there :)
[13:54] <jussi> the readme was very vague.  :(
[13:54] <Kaleo> does that help?
[13:54] <MobileDruif> jussi: /Contributing I believe
[13:55] <jussi> Kaleo: Im reading now. perhaps worth adding that url into the readme file?
[13:56] <jussi> also, what does ~s do in the bzr command?
[13:58] <Saviq> jussi, it's not an option - it's just the name of the team
[13:58] <MobileDruif> It's gonna be merged with unity-2d
[13:58] <MobileDruif> ?
[13:59] <jussi> oh :(
[13:59] <MobileDruif> Saviq: I see you're hard at work with the wiki pages?
[14:00] <jussi> so... what the difference in code from  bzr branch "lp:~ubuntu-tv/ubuntutv/trunk" and "bzr branch lp:~s-team/ubuntutv/trunk" if any?
[14:00] <Saviq> jussi, we just had to move the code, sorry for that
[14:00] <Saviq> there is no ~ubuntu-tv/ubuntutv/{trunk,unity-lens-video} anymore
[14:00] <jussi> oh, so I grabbed before it was moved then.
[14:01] <jussi> there si no difference in code though?
[14:01] <sladen> jussi: the 's-team' is a bit like the 'a-team', just an abbreviation of something else
[14:01] <Saviq> jussi, just go `bzr pull --remember ~s-team/ubuntutv/trunk` there
[14:01] <mhall119> Kaleo: Saviq: can we get an actual LP project for this?
[14:01] <jussi> Saviq: thanks
[14:01] <Saviq> mhall119, most of it will get merged back into unity-2d
[14:02] <Saviq> mhall119, and the project is simply "ubuntutv"
[14:02] <mhall119> Saviq: ok
[14:02] <mhall119> thanks
[14:02] <Saviq> we couldn't connect lp:ubuntutv yet, we'll do that soon
[14:03] <MobileDruif> Can there be anything said about ubuntu phone now your all chatty again?
[14:04] <sladen> MobileDruif: you could try asking in #ubuntu-phone
[14:04] <sladen> ;-)
[14:07] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: the phone is definitely not my arena :)
[14:07] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: I would guess that this would be the last platform we tackme
[14:07] <Kaleo> tackle
[14:07] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: I feel like we have so much to get on with already
[14:11] <jussi> Kaleo: strange question here. If Im running kde can I just run it?  or do I need to be running metacity?
[14:11] <Kaleo> jussi: it should be fine
[14:11] <Kaleo> jussi: mileage may vary performance wise depending on your window manage
[14:11] <Kaleo> rr
[14:11] <jussi> ok, lemme try it :)
[14:12] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/MergePlan
[14:12] <Kaleo> MobileDruif: document that got created 5 minutes ago :)
[14:12] <MobileDruif> I know ;)
[14:13] <MobileDruif> I'm subscribed to every page subsequent of UbuntuTV, so I also get notified about new pages
[14:13] <Saviq> nerochiaro, plan is great
[14:14] <nerochiaro> Saviq: Kaleo: any ideas on the TODOs that are in there ?
[14:15] <nerochiaro> i suppose i can start tackling point #1 anyway
[14:15] <nerochiaro> Saviq: Kaleo: how do we go review-wise for this work ?
[14:16] <Saviq> we got lp:ubuntutv
[14:18] <jussi> Kaleo: seems it didnt work. loaded my normal unity over the top of kde (I have unity installed here as an alternate)
[14:18] <tsdgeos> jussi: you probably need to shut-down plasma-desktop
[14:19] <jussi> ok, can I run this from a tty ?
[14:19] <nerochiaro> you should be able to
[14:20] <jussi> ok, lemme try that
[14:20] <Saviq> jussi, what does `gsettings get com.canonical.Unity2d form-factor` say?
[14:21] <mhall119> Saviq: do you guys have it doing form-factor auto-detection to determine what variant of Unity to run?
[14:21] <Saviq> mhall119, not yet
[14:22] <Saviq> jussi, actually make that `dconf read /com/canonical/unity-2d/form-factor`
[14:34] <MobileDruif> Anyhow I'm going offline, battery is getting low
[14:34] <jussi> Saviq: returns nothing
[14:36] <jussi> anyways, Im off now. 9 months pregnant wife waiting for me at home ;)
[14:36] <jussi> please leave me messages tho
[14:37] <sladen> jussi: wow.  Best wishes for all 2 (or 3 if it arrives) of you
[14:40] <Saviq> jussi, did you follow the point about setting that dconf key?
[14:41] <Saviq> anyone else managed to run it? or - even more interesting - did not manage to run it for some reason?
[14:52] <daker> hello Kaleo
[14:53] <Saviq> daker, he's not here right now
[14:54] <daker> ツ
[16:14] <mhall119> Kaleo: Saviq: do we have any information about the remote control for Ubuntu TV?
[16:34] <rsalveti> Kaleo: hey, first issue I saw at the instructions, you're using xbmc 10 to create the metadata
[16:34] <rsalveti> we're using the 11 release, that we have running on arm
[16:34] <rsalveti> they should be compatible, but not fully sure
[16:36] <Saviq> rsalveti, they are
[16:37] <jussi> Saviq: I did run it. it returned nothing.
[16:37] <rsalveti> Saviq: great
[16:37] <jussi> Saviq: In anycase, Im off to the hospital with the wife - hopefully when I return there will be 3 of us :D
[16:37] <Saviq> jussi, awesome!
[16:38]  * jussi hugs Saviq and runs off
[16:40] <mhall119> jussi: congrats!
[16:40] <jussi> mhall119: not yet! :D
[16:41] <mhall119> jussi: I thought you were gone, assumed you'd get that after :)
[16:41] <jussi> mhall119: Im jusyt leaving :P
[16:42] <mhall119> jussi: remember to breath, and don't lock your knees
[16:42] <mhall119> the rest is up to her ;)
[16:42] <jussi> lol
[17:22] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha
[18:05] <maxolasersquad> Will/can Ubuntu-TV handle ISOs?
[18:06] <dmj726> maxolasersquad: my guess would be yes either out of the box or with additional software installed
[18:07] <maxolasersquad> Cool, I've been ripping my DVDs since my kids like to scratch them up.
[18:07] <maxolasersquad> Ripping to ISO that is.
[18:07] <dmj726> I'm not from Canonical
[18:08] <dmj726> but they would have to prevent installation of medibuntu and vlc to stop the ability to play ISOs
[18:08] <dmj726> My guess is that it will behave like regular Ubuntu with a special UI
[18:09] <tgm4883> dmj726, AFAIK, it's going to be Unity 2d
[18:10] <dmj726> tgm4883: basically the backend internals will most likely be little changed
[18:10] <dmj726> so things like gstreamer and so forth
[18:14] <nerochiaro> Saviq: do you know if revision 824 from lp:unity-2d is essentially the same as revision 848 from the shell branch ? ("make scrollbar abstract" is the title of the commits).It looks like they are the same to me.
[18:15] <nerochiaro> Saviq: rev 872 also seems to do again the same thing too
[18:15] <nerochiaro> Saviq: however in trunk the scrollbar ends up in libunity-2d while il the shell branch it ends up in shell/common. what's the right place in the end ?
[18:19] <popey> hi pleia2
[18:19] <pleia2> hello
[18:19] <tgm4883> -hi
[18:21] <sladen> hello pleia2
[18:22] <sladen> pleia2: greetings from Buda, or is it pest
[18:22] <nerochiaro> or both
[18:22] <pleia2> depends on the side of the river :)
[18:25] <popey> sladen: decided what to do for food?
[18:30] <sladen> popey: nope
[18:30] <sladen> popey: are you still hanging around?
[18:31] <sladen> popey: and are you sitll going to be there in 5 minutes?
[18:33] <popey> i am in my room
[18:37] <popey> sladen: ping me before you go out
[18:38] <sladen> popey: okay, hat, coat etc
[18:40] <popey> sladen: 5 mins, see you in reception
[21:11] <rsalveti> Saviq: Kaleo: unfortunately the current qtmobility is using video texturing just for GL, not for GLES
[21:11] <rsalveti> but luckily qtmobility 1.2 also has GLES support, but specifically to maemo 6 atm
[21:12] <rsalveti> because of the proprietary extensions
[21:12] <rsalveti> I'm discussing that with robclark, as he created one extension we currently use at XBMC, to see if we can get it to work with latest qtmobility and panda
[21:43] <Saviq> nerochiaro, in the end - shell/common of course
[21:43] <Saviq> but we didn't have that common place before
[21:44] <Saviq> and yes, they're basically the same thing, one done upstream, the other just for tv
[21:44] <Saviq> rsalveti, cool
[21:44] <MrChrisDruif> Saviq; I'm missing the discussion?
[21:45] <Saviq> MrChrisDruif, I'm just reading the backlog, sorry :)
[21:45] <nerochiaro> Saviq: ok, i'll keep that in mind tomorrow. there are a few things to fix because the merge moves it to libunity2dprivate so i'll have to revert that
[21:45] <Saviq> nerochiaro, yeah
[21:45] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe
[21:45]  * MrChrisDruif doesn't have backlog
[21:45] <Saviq> poor MrChrisDruif ;)
[21:45] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, I'm missing out ^_^
[23:14] <Guus-> Is there anyone in here to who I could submit an idea?
[23:28] <rsalveti> Kaleo: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Always-Innovating-HDMI-Dongle
[23:29] <rsalveti> similar with a pandaboard
[23:29] <rsalveti> would be nice and probably easy to have ubuntu tv running on it :-)