[20:27] <ebel> greetings all
[20:28] <Victor9098> Evening!
[20:28] <andru183_> hello all :)
[20:28] <barry_> hello
[20:29] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:30] <Victor9098> Ubuntu-ie and the search for the holy reboot... we're not dead yet ;-)
[20:31] <andru183_> :D
[20:31] <andru183_> go go gadget reboot!
[20:31] <tdr112> hello
[20:32] <ryano> Evening all
[20:32] <andru183_> we have a few here do we??
[20:32] <czajkowski> we do so it seems
[20:33] <czajkowski> ebel: you chairing :)
[20:33] <Victor9098> looks like a decent turn out
[20:33] <ebel> eh? sure
[20:34] <czajkowski> sweet
[20:34] <ebel> right-io, I'll chair and start
[20:34] <czajkowski> am inhaling dinner as we speak
[20:34] <ebel> #startmeeting
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[20:34] <ebel> Since it's 8:30
[20:34] <czajkowski> \o/
[20:35] <ebel> right please say PRESENT if you're here
[20:35] <ebel> PRESENT
[20:35] <andru183_> PRESENT
[20:35] <Victor9098> PRESENT
[20:35] <ryano> PRESENT
[20:35] <barry_> PRESENT
[20:36] <czajkowski> PRESENT
[20:36] <ebel> technically the web page for this meeting is here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-ie/532/detail/
[20:37] <ebel> right, but in more general, this meeting was called to talk about rebooting the ubuntu ie loco.
[20:37] <czajkowski> nods
[20:37] <czajkowski> cheers to everyone for coming along
[20:37] <ebel> so, any ideas? thoughts?
[20:38] <czajkowski> well I think it's great to see people for starts
[20:38] <andru183_> I'd be glad to see a reboot bring life back
[20:38] <andru183_> and intrest gathered
[20:38] <ebel> I presume we should have a little bit of a brain storm, so talk away....
[20:38] <czajkowski> sp clealry there is an interst in the loco
[20:38] <czajkowski> I think what we should decide is what we want from the loco
[20:38] <czajkowski> do we just want it to chat and bounce ubuntu ideas off one another
[20:38] <czajkowski> a social side of things
[20:38] <czajkowski> or what
[20:38] <andru183_> compsoc are psuhing to get more involved with the loco and jams and releases so it would be nice to have a body here
[20:38] <czajkowski> nods
[20:38] <czajkowski> andru183_: and that is great to hear
[20:39] <czajkowski> ryano: barry_ Victor9098 when you hear the word loco and ireland what do you think ?
[20:39] <andru183_> indeed, been pushing linux inside for a while now and people are really taking to it
[20:39] <czajkowski> just trying to understand what folks are looking for
[20:39] <Victor9098> crazy paddies
[20:40] <czajkowski> heh
[20:40] <andru183_> for me it would be the online presence and face to face events in a few places. I'd like to see that kept up
[20:40] <czajkowski> ok hats good to hear
[20:40] <czajkowski> *thats
[20:40] <barry_> well , i say about just generalalised ubuntu news for ireland. ie, notifations of linux / ubuntu talks ,  as well as a way to spread linux /ubuntu / open source in ireland
[20:41] <czajkowski> nods
[20:41] <czajkowski> good
[20:41] <czajkowski> as I think it helps spread news
[20:41] <czajkowski> and keep people up to date
[20:41] <czajkowski> so like I've been forwarding on some stuff as on silly amount of lists to the .ie list
[20:41] <andru183_> yep
[20:41] <czajkowski> but not sure if thats good or bad
[20:41] <czajkowski> maybe people use U1 and the notice was useful
[20:41] <czajkowski> that kinda thing barry
[20:41] <andru183_> I like the stuff sent on
[20:41] <czajkowski> or ona larger scale
[20:42] <andru183_> any bit of notice really
[20:42] <Victor9098> Yes, I think 'quiet' between meetings has let things drift
[20:42] <barry_> yea, things like that , however i dont use the notes , was a good post.
[20:42] <czajkowski> barry_: nods
[20:42] <andru183_> maybe we could all pass things Ubuntu/Linux related to the mailing lists
[20:42] <czajkowski> so maybe as a start
[20:43] <czajkowski> I could post stuff that is happening in Ubuntu land
[20:43] <andru183_> never know what people are intrested in
[20:43] <czajkowski> that maybe folks in .ie havent heard about
[20:43] <andru183_> that's a place???
[20:43] <czajkowski> like say Ubutnu users days this weekend ?
[20:43] <czajkowski> so people can either watch live
[20:43] <czajkowski> or read the logs afterwards?
[20:43] <czajkowski> which maybe helps to start up a conversation
[20:43] <andru183_> great!
[20:43] <czajkowski> but not helping the face to face bits
[20:44] <andru183_> events will come, like the release parties and jams
[20:44] <barry_> the only thing i would say about the mailing list is that some people might be 'reserved about giving out there email - i would say a more facebook/ twitter post would be a good  idea about vaious pieces
[20:44] <andru183_> UH's down here died
[20:44] <czajkowski> I dont want to interfer too much given I dont live in .ie anymore either
[20:44] <czajkowski> barry_: good call ok we shall update those places also
[20:44] <ryano> Being Ireland I think any membership is going to be pretty spread out across and I personally find it impossible to attend any events, on the other hand I've been stalking irc and the mailing for a long time and havnt found a way that I can contribute myself yet
[20:44] <czajkowski> ryano: ok so let me ask you this
[20:45] <czajkowski> what way would you like to contribute ?
[20:45] <czajkowski> tdr112: ebel zmoylan thoughts ?
[20:46] <ebel> sounds good.
[20:46] <ryano> I would help out any way in which I could but my linux skills arnt that advance really
[20:46] <ebel> I mean there is no rules and I hope no-one feels and barriers.
[20:46] <tdr112> its all well and good talking about these things but you need people to do them
[20:46] <czajkowski> tdr112: aye which is what it comes down to really
[20:46] <tdr112> I am not going to put in the time to pass on ubuntu news etc
[20:46] <ebel> People should feel free to do what they thinks needs doing.
[20:47] <ebel> and totally agree with tdr112. Talk is low value. Who's going to do something?
[20:47] <tdr112> i do like meeting up every month or two
[20:47] <ryano> there definitely isnt a barrier as such, bar myself is what I mean
[20:47] <czajkowski> ryano: nods
[20:48] <czajkowski> yeah having people on the ground for face to face events is where it is hard as it's not fair on the same people doing it as it leads to burn out imo
[20:48] <andru183_> I'd be happy to kick start them again but I'm the Limerick side of things
[20:48] <andru183_> I used to love the UH's
[20:48] <andru183_> need people to go tho
[20:49] <czajkowski> andru183_: so maybe change it from the absolute to somwhere different
[20:49] <ebel> yep.
[20:49] <ebel> OK, if you'd like a UH, call one, and go. then the next month or whatever, call one and go.
[20:49] <andru183_> I've no prob where it goes on TBH, and can look into a netural place like where we had the dinner for skycon
[20:50] <andru183_> ebel: I'll give it another shot sure
[20:51] <czajkowski> so why don't we perhaps start there
[20:51] <czajkowski> andru183_: start off with UH in limerick
[20:51] <czajkowski> maybe post a short summary after it
[20:51] <czajkowski> and say how you did it
[20:51] <czajkowski> so others can do it if there is interest
[20:51] <andru183_> will do
[20:51] <tdr112> how much notice do you think we should be giving
[20:52] <andru183_> stick to the old last thursday of the month or ask the list for input?
[20:52] <ebel> andru183_: don't ask the list. Just do it.
[20:52] <ebel> Just do it.
[20:52] <andru183_> ebel cool
[20:52] <ebel> Be bold. :)
[20:52] <andru183_> ha ha
[20:52] <andru183_> ok you have me now :D
[20:52] <czajkowski> aye
[20:53] <Victor9098> Depends on the target audience, if you have a specific group of people you are thinking about just go for it. Routine can come later
[20:53] <ebel> One could advertise a week or two before then a reminder email the day before
[20:53] <czajkowski> yeha too much notice and people forget
[20:53] <ebel> yes, "lots of people want to go, but at different times" is *not* a problem at the moment.,
[20:54] <andru183_> anywhere else?
[20:55] <czajkowski> andru183_: start in limerick
[20:55] <czajkowski> and lets go from there :)
[20:55] <andru183_> ok
[20:55] <czajkowski> at least for now
[20:55] <barry_> do you's mean an UH or dinner type thing - The UH were ussualy on irc as well , no?
[20:55] <andru183_> ubuntu hours
[20:56] <andru183_> where we meet face to face and talk about ubuntu/geek stuff
[20:56] <Victor9098> UH usually just a casual face to face
[20:56] <czajkowski> call it what ever, just a monthly or what ever frequence of face to face chat
[20:56] <czajkowski> can be over a pint
[20:56] <czajkowski> cuppa tea
[20:56] <czajkowski> supermacs
[20:57] <czajkowski> :)
[20:57] <Victor9098> But nothing stopping you from broadcasting it at the same time over the web :D
[20:57] <czajkowski> it's just face to face tme to talk about Ubuntu open source, or what ever
[20:57] <andru183_> great craic!
[20:58] <barry_> just talking over a place with your laptop from what ive heard from jono bacon blogs ect
[20:58] <ebel> it's the offline equivalent of chatting on IRC
[20:58] <czajkowski> barry_: yup
[20:58] <czajkowski> pretty much
[21:00] <ryano> something I was wondering was is there a replacement link for Planet Ubuntu-ie?
[21:00] <ryano> http://ubuntu-ie.org/aggregator no longer works for me
[21:01] <czajkowski> not many people were blogging as far as I could tell
[21:01] <ryano> ah ok :)
[21:01] <andru183_> ryano would you like to add to it?
[21:02] <andru183_> I know I would
[21:02] <czajkowski> we can add more blogs to the loco team portsal though
[21:02] <czajkowski> thats not an issue
[21:02] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds
[21:02] <czajkowski> add blog feed there
[21:02] <czajkowski> and I can review it
[21:02] <czajkowski> well me or the other council folks
[21:03] <andru183_> cool
[21:03] <ryano> thank you czajkowski
[21:04] <ryano> I may consider starting an ubuntu blog in the near future
[21:05] <ebel> ok
[21:05] <ebel> if you start blogging don't forget to promote it. :)
[21:05] <ebel> anyone going to do anything else?
[21:05] <ryano> Will do
[21:08] <czajkowski> maybe we can just talk more on the mailing list
[21:08] <czajkowski> and encourag eothers to talk
[21:08] <czajkowski> there are a lot on there you know
[21:08] <JamesSweeney> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone here uses Ubuntu desktop and/or Ubuntu server in their work?
[21:08] <barry_> what about some type of open blog type thing like a thread on http://www.boards.ie/ and others - just post various intresting things - anyway ubuntu related , linux/ and news pieces. - Can be used to promote UH as well- thoughts ?
[21:08] <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: I do, but not sure I count - I work for canonical :p
[21:08] <czajkowski> barry_: good idea
[21:08] <JamesSweeney> sure :)
[21:09] <czajkowski> barry_: so why not post them there if andru183_ creates the limerick one
[21:09] <czajkowski> so just help out and help one antoher rather than it fall to tohers
[21:09] <czajkowski> if you see it's not too much work
[21:09] <czajkowski> others may get interested
[21:10] <ebel> JamesSweeney: yes to both. I've used ubuntu in work for years,.
[21:10] <ebel> barry_: sure, go for it
[21:11] <JamesSweeney> apologies if i am hijacking the thread but adopting Ubuntu/linux/open source at work is a great way to promote it
[21:12] <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: no worries
[21:12] <czajkowski> I just found thishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/SysAdminSupport
[21:12] <JamesSweeney> ebel cool. it would be great to chat and compare experiences
[21:12] <czajkowski> forgot I started that a while back
[21:13] <barry_> yea , i have no problem with it, anybopdy with a standard account can post as well to make it easy - so for example there was something about richard from GNU coming to do some talk in dublin , things like that somebody can pop in and post as well as people who already are on boards.ie. One thing i saw was Mark Shuttleworth visted trinity and done some speach , However i only saw this after the event. Ill start a post and ask one of
[21:13] <barry_> the top in the unix section
[21:14] <ebel> right, so andru183_'s gonna try to do more UH in limerick, right?
[21:14] <ebel> anything else?
[21:14] <czajkowski> I'l post more stuff to the -ie list about global ubuntu stuff happening
[21:14] <andru183_> ebel: yep
[21:14] <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: care to take your topic to the list and see if we can get more people talking on there?
[21:14] <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: the idea being we might get more people who lurk on the list to talk
[21:14] <czajkowski> and maybe want to talk face to face after a few emails
[21:15] <ebel> JamesSweeney: sure, poke me sometime
[21:16] <JamesSweeney> will do. cheers.
[21:16] <ebel> Right, any other actions or shall we move on to the other topic on the agenda?
[21:16] <ebel> or and maybe barry_ will post on boards.ie (did I read you right?)
[21:16] <czajkowski> I'm all good
[21:17] <barry_> yea, ill do it later on
[21:17] <ebel> so that's it for reboot actions?
[21:17] <andru183_> seems so
[21:18] <czajkowski> oh
[21:18] <czajkowski> the naming bit
[21:18] <czajkowski> barry_: was that your idea?
[21:18] <andru183_> ............
[21:18] <andru183_> oh ya.........
[21:18] <ebel> czajkowski: yeah that's the second topic I was gonna move on to now
[21:18] <czajkowski> the S series?
[21:18] <czajkowski> ah sory
[21:18] <czajkowski> dont mind me
[21:18] <ebel> ok, we'll move onto that now. Name! Go!
[21:19] <andru183_> do we want it Irish tied??
[21:19] <czajkowski> barry_: firstly well done great idea!
[21:19] <barry_> yea,  the letter is s - last year it was named on the 23rd of april , so arounnd if we want to put in something , we got to decide really
[21:19] <czajkowski> secondly mind if I nick your original email and add it to my blog - crediting you of course
[21:19] <czajkowski> and see if we can get some more suggestsions?
[21:20] <barry_> yea, no problem at all ,
[21:21] <czajkowski> cheers
[21:21] <Victor9098> I was expecting a break in tradition... maybe a 'Super Shuttleworth' ;)
[21:21] <czajkowski> lol
[21:22] <barry_> there is 3 proposed suggestions -  Tommy said  -Supreme Sionnach (shun-ach.) and sublime sionnach. Sionnach being Irish for fox, and sublime:" Of such excellence, grandeur, or beauty as to inspire great admiration or awe."
[21:22] <barry_> mark suggested sublime songbird.
[21:23] <Victor9098> The Irish themed S is a superb idea, he likes to bring attention to endangered species at the same time. So if we do make a case for Sionnach we could link it to charities etc
[21:23] <andru183_> cool
[21:23] <czajkowski> Victor9098: oh nice idea
[21:24] <barry_> i'm no expert on irish wild life so , any thing else. The old irish lengeds idea by tommy seem a good idea -imo
[21:25] <Victor9098> Though we run the risk of casual observers making it seem like a overt nod to Mozilla, but I think the Sionnach / Irish connection should overcome that
[21:25] <czajkowski> barry_: see pm
[21:26] <Victor9098> Before we decide on the descriptor we should see what Mark/dev have been hinting for 13.10 too, that way we could be try to get a good fit for what they want to achieve
[21:27] <Victor9098> If we ONLY had somebody on the inside of Canonical...
[21:27] <czajkowski> lol
[21:27] <andru183_> darn the luck!
[21:27] <czajkowski> nout to do with us
[21:27] <barry_> well , its the last trail run before the big , really big 14.04 lts
[21:28] <czajkowski> nods
[21:29] <ebel> OK
[21:29] <Victor9098> sinuous sionnach
[21:30] <barry_> marks wants to change the whole idea of a hoobyist or server linux idea - he wants to bring it to the masses 14.04 will be his prize to show why. 13.10 he will want stability so he can run into 14.04 stable
[21:31] <ebel> so we have >1 suggestion, right? So does only one have to be suggested? Or more than one? If >1 can be suggested, why not suggest them all>
[21:31] <ebel> ?
[21:31] <czajkowski> we can have as many as we like tbh
[21:32] <Victor9098> He likes to surprise people with the name in his blog... us talking about it publicly might automatically rule our ideas out?
[21:32] <czajkowski> we probably wont get picked
[21:33] <czajkowski> but it at least shows we're active and discssing new things
[21:33] <barry_> he might mix the Sionnach idea with something others have suggested
[21:33] <Victor9098> Yes, agreed
[21:34] <Victor9098> Blog post promoting the name and a few good reasons pointing to causes will only bring the right attention to the Ubuntu-ie loco
[21:34] <ebel> ok
[21:34] <czajkowski> cool
[21:34] <ebel> who wants to (a) make a suggestion and (b) promote the fact that people in ireland are making suggestions?
[21:35] <czajkowski> me
[21:35] <czajkowski> will add it to my blog
[21:35] <czajkowski> then we can add it to the twitter ac
[21:35] <ebel> kewl. go go czajkowski!
[21:35] <Victor9098> Sounds good
[21:35] <Victor9098> Expect a retweet ;-)
[21:36] <ebel> kewl
[21:37] <ebel> so is there anything else to discuss at this meeting?
[21:37] <barry_> i would say he would appericate a community effort
[21:37] <ebel> or shall we wrap it up?
[21:37] <czajkowski> wrap up I think
[21:37] <czajkowski> and maybe aim to have another meeting in a month
[21:37] <czajkowski> evne if just to hang out
[21:37] <czajkowski> we could do a G+ hangout
[21:37] <czajkowski> if there is only  >10
[21:38] <Victor9098> Hangouts are a laugh, I'll go for that
[21:38] <ebel> ok
[21:39] <Victor9098> New meaning to UH (Ubuntu Hangout)
[21:39] <ebel> heh
[21:39] <barry_> when they do ubuntu on air , do they use the irc or the youtube comments or what to get questions?
[21:39] <czajkowski> thanks ebel for chairing
[21:39] <czajkowski> barry_: irc
[21:39] <ebel> someone promote it in a while
[21:39] <ebel> :)
[21:39] <andru183_> if anyone knows people down the Limerick side of things they might pass this on to promote the UH if that's cool http://skynet.ie/~andru183/how-ive-found-being-a-member-of-ubuntu-ireland/
[21:39] <czajkowski> wilko
[21:39] <ebel> #endmeeting
[21:39] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Feb  6 21:39:17 2013 UTC.
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[21:39] <Victor9098> thanks ebel, great job
[21:40] <czajkowski> andru183_: post that to the list :)
[21:40] <andru183_> mailing list??
[21:40] <czajkowski> andru183_: the -ireland mailing list
[21:41] <czajkowski> andru183_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ie
[21:41] <andru183_> cool, will do
[21:41] <barry_> so will we agree on a name on the list in the next few days ?
[21:41] <czajkowski> barry_: lets just add all the suggestions :)
[21:41] <Victor9098> Send out a response to the current thread mentioning what we covered... then see who responds
[21:43] <barry_> right so , ill add the few we got over the next day or 2
[21:43] <Victor9098> Thanks barry_
[21:43] <barry_> cya's foalks
[21:44] <andru183_> take care guys
[21:44] <czajkowski> thanks to those who came
[21:44] <ryano> later guys
[21:44] <czajkowski> it's been nice to see the interest
[21:44] <czajkowski> ryano: drop me a mail
[21:44] <andru183_> indeed it has
[21:44] <czajkowski> if you want to get involved and we can talk about where you might like to get involved
[21:44] <czajkowski> ryano<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:44] <ryano> ok, thanks
[21:52] <outoppie> Sorry I am late - family matters
[21:53] <czajkowski> outoppie: no worries
[21:53] <czajkowski> outoppie: 21:39 < meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ie/2013/ubuntu-ie.2013-02-06-20.34.moin.txt
[21:53] <czajkowski> 21:39 < meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ie/2013/ubuntu-ie.2013-02-06-20.34.html
[21:53] <czajkowski> channel logging and meeting bot means you can read up
[21:53] <outoppie> Thank you...
[21:57] <outoppie> Thank you for that - It gave me an idea of what is happening.
[22:01] <czajkowski> np
[22:01] <czajkowski> welcome
[22:01] <czajkowski> outoppie: where are you based?
[22:02] <outoppie> I am a pensioner in Enfield, Co Meath. My son Andrew is the big UBUNTU fan.
[22:02] <outoppie> He is only 11 but install for people as asked..
[22:03] <czajkowski> wow
[22:03] <czajkowski> outoppie: thats amazing
[22:04] <outoppie> The Meath Cronacle had a write up on him saving a local company 1000's with their computers
[22:08] <andru183_> outoppie that's unreal to hear!
[22:08] <czajkowski> outoppie: oh got a link handy
[22:08] <czajkowski> please also post this to the irelandmailing list
[22:08] <czajkowski> this is great to hear
[22:26] <czajkowski> outoppie: ??
[22:50] <outoppie> sorry.. did not see ... yes it can be done..
[22:51] <czajkowski> outoppie: do you have the link to the article?
[22:51] <outoppie> Unfortunately not... did not see it on the web. Was apparently only on paper version
[22:52] <czajkowski> oh shame :(
[22:53] <czajkowski> recently
[22:53] <czajkowski> might be able to get a copy and scan in
[22:53] <czajkowski> sounds great
[22:56] <outoppie> Ok... will contact them for it..
[22:58] <czajkowski> great :D
[23:08] <czajkowski> outoppie: how did he get involed
[23:08] <czajkowski> or hear about Ubuntu
[23:33] <outoppie> He watched me playing a little around. He then installed it on his laptop ... then on his brothers computer ... dual boot ... then persuaded me to switch over completely..
[23:35] <czajkowski> wow
[23:35] <czajkowski> impressive
[23:47] <outoppie> I forgot to say - also Mommy's laptop - dual boot
[23:48] <outoppie> I forgot to say - also Mommy's lap top - dual boot