[09:37] <gdiebel> ratbert90: yes you can do that with projects
[09:37] <rahmetli> i tried to create new menu entries, which is a command should work in console,when i click it konsole opens and suddenly wanishes.
[09:38] <donovan> is it a bad thing, if i'll leave some dependencies unresolved?  (ibnotify1 recommends notification-daemon ... score is -1545)
[09:39] <xBill> i would leave it unresolved first and then try to resolve it later.
[09:39] <xBill> has already worked twice this way
[09:40] <guiden> Why isn't there a direct connect program?
[09:40] <guiden> dc
[09:40] <hatta> because no one has written one?
[09:40] <jhutchins> guiden: for what?
[09:40] <guiden> file sharing
[09:40] <guiden> hubs
[09:40] <jhutchins> guiden: There are all kinds.
[09:40] <Mena> Why doesnt kubuntu work on another pc except mine the one i installed kubuntu with
[09:40] <the_hammer> hi all network issues here..anyone able to help me out with wireless issues and web key set up and all that jazz?
[09:41] <jhutchins> !wireless | the_hammer
[09:41] <ubotu> the_hammer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <jhutchins> the_hammer: They have some good howtos there, cover a lot of different cards.
[09:41] <guiden> jhutchins, can you give an example?
[09:41] <the_hammer> ya i did all that
[09:42] <jhutchins> guiden:  you're talking about bittorrent, ktoreent, edonkey, right?
[09:42] <julle_> Can anyone give me a tip on a good dvd backup program for kubuntu?
[09:42] <jhutchins> !backup | julle_
[09:42] <ubotu> julle_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:42] <the_hammer> i put the wep key in and applied 1st time i got a crash error so reinstalled and dont got the error no more but still unable to connect or anything
[09:43] <hellcattrav> hey how do i get skype?
[09:43] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: www.skype.com
[09:43] <nixternal> hellcattrav: Skype used to have Ubuntu packages prebuilt, but their tarballs I think are as easy as extracting and running
[09:43] <killermach> I have the Ubuntu 6.10 DVD from a linux format magazine. I put this in a machine, and create an ISO with K3B, then I md5sum the ISO, then I burn the ISO to dvd, I take that DVD and create an ISO and md5sum and it does not match the original..altho the DVD seems to work fine so far..
[09:43] <hellcattrav> i just downloaded the skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb  but i don't know what to do from there
[09:43] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Can you see your AP when you do iwlist -scan?
[09:44] <nixternal> hellcattrav: at the command line type -->   sudo dpkg -i skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[09:44] <hellcattrav> nixternal: thanks
[09:44] <nixternal> hellcattrav: KMenu -> System -> Konsole    or    Alt+Space  and then type konsold and press enter
[09:44] <hellcattrav> nixternal: i know how to get a konsole up..I'm moving up in the world!
[09:45] <guiden> jhutchins, no I'm talking about like an irc type of file sharing. You join a server/room and you have your sharefolder and everyone else too, then you can look in their share, or search and download, you can download from several people at the same time
[09:45] <the_hammer> i had the wireless net working before and then when i decided to do security set up kubuntu doesnt seem to like the security set ups
[09:45] <nixternal> hehe hellcattrav, just in case :)
[09:45] <killermach> if I take copy of the DVD that I burned and put in another ubuntu machine, and try to make an ISO with K3B, I get an error "K3b does not support copying multisession DVDs, and the last dvd copy was done with writing mode DAO.. what am I missing?
[09:46] <jhutchins> guiden: Well, there is irc.  If there's a specific network you're thinking of, you can look for software that supports that network.
[09:46] <hellcattrav> nixternal: when i type it in, is it  like this  -iskype_debian-1.3.53-1_i386  litterly like that? but prefaced with sudo?
[09:46] <guiden> its this
[09:46] <guiden> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Connect_(file_sharing)
[09:46] <julle_> jhutchins: thanks
[09:46] <nixternal> dpkg -i filenmae.deb
[09:46] <guiden> this is the biggest and ultimate filesharing medium
[09:46] <hellcattrav> ok
[09:46] <hellcattrav> thanks
[09:47] <killermach> ... and I can put the DAO DVD copy back into the machine that created it and K3b gives no error about multisession and will create an ISO.. there must be some setting I'm missing somewhere, anyone ever have that error?
[09:47] <guiden> never mind, I found klients
[09:47] <guiden> clients for dc
[09:48] <jhutchins> guiden: Yeah, the page you sent me lists ten Linux clients.
[09:48] <jhutchins> dc++ being open source you could always compile it if it's not already packaged.
[09:48] <guiden> but I can't find them on kubuntu
[09:49] <BluesKaj> killermach, don't use the multiseession , just save the burn and repeat
[09:49] <jhutchins> !packages | guiden
[09:49] <ubotu> guiden: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:49] <hellcattrav> it didn't owrk
[09:49] <Nuked> I have a question... this is a long shot, but well worth the effort if it works
[09:50] <Nuked> I have a logitech webcam
[09:50] <hellcattrav> gave me some sort of conflicting action -s  and -i
[09:50] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: "It didn't work" has an infinite number of explanations.  If you tell us what actually happened we're more likely to have an idea.
[09:50] <hellcattrav> ok ill paste bin
[09:50] <hellcattrav> tmoney@tmoney-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg -iskype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[09:50] <hellcattrav> Password:
[09:50] <hellcattrav> dpkg: conflicting actions -s (--status) and -i (--install)
[09:51] <Nuked> and I have built the kernel module for it from source
[09:51] <the_hammer> i dont get it
[09:51] <jhutchins> !pastebin | hellcattrav
[09:51] <ubotu> hellcattrav: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:51] <fiyawerx> hey guys, question.. whats a good way to actually control your desktop remotely, as opposed to a virtual desktop?
[09:51] <Nuked> now I used make install... I believe that the module was included into the kernel
[09:51] <Nuked> but I am not sure
[09:51] <the_hammer> why wont kubuntu let me use my wireless with security?
[09:51] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: Do you suppose there should be a space between the -i and the package name?
[09:52] <jhutchins> the_hammer: It will.
[09:52] <hellcattrav> idk?
[09:52] <the_hammer> when i look in term says nickname is prism i
[09:52] <hellcattrav>  would that be it
[09:52] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: Think like a computer.  You passed it the whole package name as a switch.
[09:52] <hellcattrav> so add a space?
[09:52] <jhutchins> Yessir.
[09:53] <hellcattrav> i don't know what a switch is
[09:53] <hellcattrav> thank you
[09:53] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: -i, meaning install.
[09:53] <the_hammer> where do u edit the channels and all that jazz?
[09:53] <jhutchins> hellcattrav:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[09:54] <guiden> should I enable every repository on my list?
[09:54] <hellcattrav> ah
[09:54] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: That's not the greatest command line guide, just the one I know the url for.
[09:54] <the_hammer> mabe it aint detecting channels or w/e
[09:54] <Nuked> can anyone help me with this kernel module issue
[09:54] <Nuked> ?
[09:54] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Did you read teh wireless howto?
[09:54] <the_hammer> those were useless i looked
[09:54] <jhutchins> the_hammer: 'cause I'm pretty sure I remember that it says.
[09:55] <the_hammer> im not having a driver issue
[09:56] <the_hammer> heres the steps i done
[09:56] <Nuked> damn... my issue has no solution?
[09:57] <the_hammer> i open kmenu and went to system and settings and network i click on admin mode and then configure the wireless
[09:57] <jhutchins> the_hammer: You READ the WiFiHowto, the WiFiTroubleshooting howto, AND the Wireless Troubleshooting Guide?
[09:57] <cpk1> Nuked: modprobe nameofmodule
[09:57] <the_hammer> added my wep key applied and all that and nothing
[09:57] <jhutchins> Nuked: How would we know the solution if we don't know the problem?
[09:58] <cpk1> jhutchins: read about 10 minutes back =P
[09:58] <the_hammer> from what i see in the read me files is ndiswrappers wich i dont need so thats useless to me
[09:58] <Nuked> cpk1, jhutchins I did modprobe and I still cannot access the webcam
[09:59] <cpk1> Nuked: what did it say when you used modprobe?
[09:59] <Nuked> nothing
[09:59] <the_hammer> as i said before the security change all was fine and then i decided to add security now its f*cked
[09:59] <Nuked> no output at all cpk1
[09:59] <Nuked> so I assumed it worked
[09:59] <cpk1> Nuked: whats the name of the module?
[09:59] <Nuked> its uvcvideo.ko
[09:59] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Perhaps you are using an ascii key where hexidecimal is expected.
[09:59] <jhutchins> Nuked: lsmod | grep uvcv should show it.
[10:00] <the_hammer> hexidecimal is not selected on router tho
[10:00] <the_hammer> but for the heck of it ill try that
[10:00] <Nuked> jhutchins, uvcvideo               44420  0
[10:00] <jhutchins> the_hammer: I'm pretty certain you haven't bothered to read the various guides that are on the wireless page, which pretty much cover most aspects of WiFi besides ndiswrappers.
[10:01] <jhutchins> Nuked: Ok, the module's loaded.
[10:01] <jhutchins> Nuked: usb cam?
[10:01] <Nuked> yes
[10:01] <jhutchins> lsusb should now show the correct information for the camera.
[10:01] <the_hammer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager <--this is where i am
[10:01] <Nuked> according to all accounts jhutchins it is supposed to work
[10:02] <Nuked> jhutchins, Bus 005 Device 007: ID 046d:08cc Logitech, Inc.
[10:02] <jhutchins> Nuked: I would guess that the next step is to get some sort of client that can display the video, and set it up to access the camera.
[10:02] <cpk1> Nuked: it isnt working?
[10:02] <Nuked> cpk I tried using gqcam to access the camera
[10:02] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Check out the troubleshooting guides.
[10:02] <Nuked> and I get no video
[10:02] <Nuked> I dont exactly know what program to use to access the video
[10:03] <cpk1> hrmm and you are positive gqcam works?
[10:03] <cpk1> also did you do depmod -a before inserting the module?
[10:03] <jhutchins> the_hammer: The problem is that there are so many different cards and so many different setups that you'll do better searching for your particular combo in those docs than hitting someone here with the same setup.
[10:03] <Nuked> its one of the recommended programs to access the cam
[10:03] <Nuked> cpk it did depmod -ae
[10:03] <Nuked> on its own when I executed make install
[10:04] <epimeth> !beryl
[10:04] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <jhutchins> Nuked: Ok, now you have the module installed, now you need to at least re-launch gqcam, and possibly configure it.
[10:04] <Nuked> jhutchins, I truthfully wouldnt even know where to begin
[10:04] <cpk1> Nuked: did you check /var/log/messages for any errors after inserting the module?
[10:05] <jhutchins> Fire it up, look for "settings" or "preferences" in the menus.
[10:05] <craftycorner> hving prob w my email, cant' access my addy book
[10:06] <Nuked> cpk1 no errors that I can see there
[10:06] <Nuked> (used cat ...)
[10:07] <cpk1> I'm going with jhutchins that maybe you just need to configure your app
[10:08] <Nuked> cpk If I do dmesg | grep video
[10:08] <Nuked> cpk1, I get something to this effect uvcvideo: Failed to query (130) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -32 (exp. 26).
[10:08] <Nuked> but it states that my camera was found
[10:09] <Nuked> and that it was registered
[10:09] <craftycorner> file:///home/craftycorner/My art 2006-11-01/temp storage/photos
[10:10] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what email client?
[10:10] <the_hammer> sometimes wep keys are a problem
[10:10] <the_hammer> according to this 1 forum
[10:11] <the_hammer> so just use a standard pw
[10:11] <craftycorner> kontact
[10:11] <the_hammer> but i dont see how in kubntu
[10:11] <cpk1> I really dont know much about webcams, it appears that the module loaded just fine.
[10:11] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: if you restart kontact, do they show up
[10:12] <craftycorner> no, i rebooted the computer.
[10:12] <cpk1> also if you do get it to work remember to add the module name (without the .ko) to /etc/modules if you want it to load at boot
[10:12] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what have you changed since they stopped working
[10:12] <craftycorner> and they did'tn show up
[10:12] <craftycorner> nuthin'
[10:12] <Nuked> cpk1 thanks
[10:12] <the_hammer> kubuntu only has options for a wep key and not a WPA Shared  Key
[10:12] <the_hammer> :(
[10:12] <bonbonthejon> !wpa
[10:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:15] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: open system settings
[10:15] <craftycorner> The resource '/home/craftycorner/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf' is locked by application ''.
[10:15] <craftycorner> is what it says when i try to add a addy
[10:15] <craftycorner> so what's goingon
[10:15] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what do you have open
[10:16] <the_hammer> boy oh boy thats silly
[10:16] <craftycorner> kontact, kopete,
[10:16] <the_hammer> Download
[10:16] <the_hammer> wpa_supplicant
[10:16] <the_hammer> what good is that if ya cant connect
[10:16] <sb9> how do i leave a chroot environment ?
[10:17] <craftycorner> how open system settings
[10:17] <the_hammer> hell with it ill install another os
[10:17] <the_hammer> thanks
[10:17] <Cugel> Okay...
[10:17] <Cugel> That shows perseverance.
[10:17] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: close kopete, then close kontact, then open kontact again
[10:17] <bonbonthejon> Cugel: :)
[10:18] <craftycorner> nuthing
[10:18] <julle> Where do i find the trashbin in kubuntu via terminal?
[10:18] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: still no addresses?
[10:18] <craftycorner> no
[10:19] <jhutchins> I think "the_hammer" will be happier going back to windows.
[10:19] <bonbonthejon> julle: I think ~/.Trash
[10:19] <julle> bonbonthejon: just tried that its not right
[10:19] <jhutchins> !trash
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <killermach> BluesKaj: I never use and don't want multisession. how do I make sure k3b never does multisession. I've been using k3b for years and kubuntu for months and have made many copies on my own machines, I have never run into this issue
[10:19] <jhutchins> I thought I'd seen that somewhere.
[10:19] <bonbonthejon> julle: do "ls -a" and see if its listed there
[10:19] <julle> its not listed
[10:19] <jhutchins> There's a doc on it somewhere...
[10:20] <jhutchins> julle: Probably under .kde somewhere.
[10:20] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: open kmenu and select System Settings
[10:20] <Cugel> julie /home/yourname/.local/share/Trash
[10:20] <Cugel> (do locate trash  to find that)
[10:21] <craftycorner> ok
[10:21] <julle> Cugel: thank you very much!
[10:21] <craftycorner> system settings open
[10:21] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: nevermind, I can't think of what would be the problem, try asking in #kde or #kontact, unless someone else has any idea
[10:21] <rahmetli> i have created a new menu entry in kmenu,it is command that should run in konsole,but when i click it vanishes,any idea?
[10:23] <bonbonthejon> anyone running Feisty?
[10:25] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: #ubuntu+1
[10:26] <Cugel> When will Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> hit the repositories?
[10:26] <jack__> hi would i edit my sources.list to get always the latest kde? like 3.5.6 now?
[10:26] <Cugel> jack: well, yeah, you should add a line.
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: soon
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: sometime today
[10:27] <Cugel> Admiral: okay, thanks.
[10:27] <bonbonthejon> jack__: go to kubuntu.org and there is a story about it
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: we are packaging now as we speak
[10:27] <Cugel> I'm pretty sure it's in high demand -- it did surprise me the first time I saw 'check for updates' grayed out.
[10:28] <jack__> thanks bonbonthejon
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> well it wasn't in the FTP until today afaik
[10:28] <jack__> and does anyone know how to use the tools->minitools in konqueror for delicious?
[10:28] <Cugel> Ah, yes usually the blogosphere picks up these updates before they're official.
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> yup, i did that with Fx 1.5, people check the FTP page and once its available on there make it blow up
[10:30] <Cugel> One more question: any chance OpenOffice 2.1 will be added as a package? I've read the how-to's on how to install it but I don't really want to uninstall my current OO first (and then discover things don't work as planned and lose my config).
[10:30] <bipolar> is there a way to stop kmail from starting whenever I start kopete or konversation?
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: hold on a second.
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: its in Feisty
[10:32] <Cugel> Okay -- then I'll upgrade to Feisty when it's there.
[10:32] <Cugel> I don't have Windows anymore, so I need to be careful ;-)
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: check back in April :)
[10:33] <Cugel> Admiral: sure, I know.
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm installing OO.o 2.1 now, its taking its time...and my network hates me
[10:35] <Soul^Shadow> Need help installing sunjava on kubuntu edgy 6.10, I did what it says doesnt work
[10:36] <Cugel> soul: tell us the error messages.
[10:36] <haypo> hi! is it possible to create preview of videos in Konqueror?
[10:37] <Soul^Shadow> limewire says its not installed
[10:37] <haypo> like Konqueror does with pictures
[10:37] <jack__> bonbonthejon do i just need to select the mirror, addit to the sources.list and do update & upgrade?
[10:37] <sephy> hello
[10:37] <Cugel> haypo: I was wondering about that too.
[10:37] <Soul^Shadow> says the java exec not in /bon/ & otehr error exec not in /opt/
[10:37] <sephy> is there anywhere I can get wine for PPC ubuntu
[10:37] <Soul^Shadow> I did exactly what the readme says doesnt work
[10:38] <Cugel> soul: follow instructions on ubuntuguide.org (I don't know if you did)
[10:38] <haypo> Cugel: it should be possible but i don't know how :)
[10:38] <Soul^Shadow> even put the so's in the bin as it says
[10:38] <sephy__> hello??
[10:38] <Soul^Shadow> high
[10:38] <awen_> does anyone know how to use the boot options found when pressing F1 on the live cd? don't know how to get the boot prompt
[10:38] <sephy__> I a looking for wine for the PPC architecture or Ubuntu
[10:38] <mike> How do I increase screen resolution in kubuntu?
[10:38] <sephy__> of*
[10:39] <posingaspopular> mike: X
[10:39] <posingaspopular> !x
[10:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:39] <bipolar> sephy__: wine only works on X86
[10:39] <sephy__> or can I get a windows emulator for the PPC version of Ubuntu???
[10:39] <bonbonthejon> haypo: if you have metabr, you can view prwviews for videos
[10:40] <fiyawerx> hey guys, anyone know what would cause fonts to display really weird when using any kind of tunneling?
[10:40] <bipolar> sephy__: no. nothing usable
[10:40] <fiyawerx> like i can't see my i's and l's when say i open firefox
[10:40] <sephy__> damn it
[10:40] <fiyawerx> cus they get really faded
[10:40] <sephy__> has everyone stopped supporting PPC or something?
[10:40] <bonbonthejon> jack__: yyes, add the mirror to sources.list and update, upgrade
[10:40] <haypo> bonbonthejon: "metabr"? is it a program? a library?
[10:40] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a way to have free formats preview iirc
[10:41] <Soul^Shadow> Need to install java on kubuntu can ne1 help me?
[10:41] <Admiral_Chicago> sephy__: vmware might work
[10:41] <ScarFreewill> can you log into mysql db via console?
[10:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !java | Soul^Shadow
[10:41] <ScarFreewill> non local one
[10:41] <ubotu> Soul^Shadow: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:41] <fiyawerx> !nx
[10:41] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:41] <bipolar> Admiral_Chicago: you missed the part where he was running on PPC
[10:41] <guiden> if I remove a program from adept, will the other files that only depends on that program also be removed. I mean, I don't get any files that are for no good?
[10:42] <Cugel> guiden: don't worry.
[10:42] <bonbonthejon> sephy__: they are discontinuing ubuntu for ppc
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> there should be a link there to how to do it on PPY
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> PPC*
[10:42] <Soul^Shadow> I enabled the universe & all otehr repositories but java is not there well not sunjava onl javacommon
[10:42] <guiden> ok
[10:42] <bonbonthejon> haypo: I have terrible lag, it is metabar
[10:42] <bonbonthejon> ScarFreewill: I image you could
[10:43] <Cugel> soul: sudo apt-get sun-java5-bin   -- try that?
[10:43] <bipolar> Admiral_Chicago: vmware and wine only translate, they don't emulate. Windows, and windows apps are written for X86 procs, it won't work on ppc
[10:43] <Cugel> You know, apt-cache search is really useful.
[10:43] <Soul^Shadow> I need to know where to put the .so files..
[10:43] <Soul^Shadow> & how do I post these files in the protected dir's...
[10:44] <bipolar> and now sephy__ has left thinking it's the developers fault. :\
[10:44] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: if you know where to put them, then do "sudo mv file /some/location"
[10:44] <Soul^Shadow> says in bin & opt
[10:44] <Soul^Shadow> I dont even have a /opt folder
[10:45] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I bet you do, are you looking in konqueror?
[10:45] <guiden> is there a guide for installing packages that doesnt exist on the repositories?
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure what you are trying to do even.
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> so i'll sit out this problem Soul^Shadow. my apologies
[10:45] <bonbonthejon> guiden: if there is a .deb package its easy, otherwise you need to compile it
[10:45] <haypo> bonbonthejon: i already have it, but i don't have previews
[10:45] <Soul^Shadow> no firefox
[10:46] <haypo> should i enable an option in Konqueror?
[10:46] <Soul^Shadow> I wanna run limewire
[10:46] <guiden> if it's a deb package?
[10:46] <Cugel> soul: Have you tried following the guides I posted a link to?
[10:46] <thomax_|away> Soul^Shadow: download frostwire
[10:46] <Cugel> You could always try and install Java through Automatix2 (well I did, sue me)
[10:46] <bonbonthejon> guiden: do "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[10:46] <Soul^Shadow> why? hat a p2p liek limewire?/ limewire got alot of resources
[10:47] <Soul^Shadow> I cant find automatix
[10:47] <Soul^Shadow> the sites both down
[10:47] <Cugel> whoops, you're right there.
[10:48] <guiden> how do I unstinall it later?
[10:48] <kamui> anyone have an suggestions for a software package that would let me "stream" my webcam via a www server?
[10:48] <bonbonthejon> guiden: it should show up in adept, so you could remove it from there
[10:48] <Soul^Shadow> I followed the sunjava installer guide
[10:48] <kamui> essentially I'd like to be able to go to my "website" and view my cameras
[10:48] <guiden> ok cool
[10:48] <Soul^Shadow> I put every hore file where it asked
[10:48] <bonbonthejon> haypo: it should work, i dont remember what else I did to make it happen
[10:49] <Soul^Shadow> thomax_|away:  is frostwire resource packed like limewire?
[10:49] <bonbonthejon> haypo: in Konqueror's settings, under previews make sure theat you enable file:/
[10:49] <Soul^Shadow> but where can I get automatix2 does ne1 have the installer package & can you send it to me?
[10:50] <aztun> anyone installed xfce4 on kubuntu?? I select it on kdm and doesnt boot, event doesnt boot usign startxfce4 on console or startxfce4 -- :1
[10:50] <Soul^Shadow> the main site & even the ubuntu site forum link dont work :(
[10:50] <haypo> bonbonthejon: yes it's on
[10:51] <haypo> but file limit is 100 MB
[10:51] <haypo> whereas my videos are bigger than 100 MB
[10:51] <aztun> cant find any solution on the forums in order to boot xfce
[10:51] <bonbonthejon> haypo: I dont know, try raising the limit, see if it helps
[10:51] <aztun> it doesnt work on my laptop
[10:52] <Soul^Shadow> does anyone have a working link to automatix2 or ahve the package?
[10:52] <haypo> bonbonthejon: there is an hard limit to 100 MB :-/
[10:52] <bonbonthejon> haypo: sorry, dont know what else to say
[10:53] <haypo> bonbonthejon: no problem. thanks.
[10:53] <Soul^Shadow> ya tell me to get automatix2 damn u where can I get it decides teh main site or ubuntu forums?
[10:54] <Cugel> soul: at the moment the site's down. Give it a day. Check ubuntuforums.org for more info.
[10:54] <aztun> nobody uses xfce?
[10:55] <aztun> I need it in order to use eclipse
[10:55] <Mena> Si therea trick to enable kubuntu work on amny pcs
[10:55] <Mena> Is*
[10:55] <yaccin> eclipse works with kde o.O
[10:55] <Soul^Shadow> really??
[10:55] <aztun> I know yaccin
[10:55] <Soul^Shadow> I was once makin a game with eclipse
[10:55] <aztun> but kde+eclipse fulls my ram
[10:56] <Soul^Shadow> you runnin it on wine??
[10:56] <Cugel> mena: eh?
[10:56] <aztun> have no enoght ram
[10:56] <Soul^Shadow> get more ram :P
[10:56] <Mena> many*
[10:56] <yaccin> aztun: you need more ram :P
[10:56] <bonbonthejon> aztun: check with #xubuntu, they would use xfcce
[10:56] <yaccin> XD
[10:56] <aztun> eclipse is gtk
[10:56] <yaccin> aztun: how did you install it?
[10:56] <Mena> i mean if install kubuntu on my pc on my hard
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> GTK apps work with Kubuntu
[10:56] <aztun> yaccin: apt-get install xfce4
[10:56] <Mena> and i dicied to conect my hard to aother pc
[10:56] <Mena> another*
[10:56] <aztun> also installed some plugins
[10:56] <Mena> and be master
[10:56] <yaccin> aztun: tried apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[10:56] <yaccin> ^^
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> no, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> that's how to install XFCE
[10:57] <Mena> i try befor didnt work
[10:57] <aztun> yaccin: I dont wanna change my boot screem or kdm
[10:57] <Soul^Shadow> there an easyer way to get java installed?/ or least get automatix2?
[10:57] <Mena> Cugel, did you get me
[10:57] <yaccin> aztun: i think you dont have... it asks you in konsole
[10:57] <bipolar> ubuntu needs a DVD install that has kubuntu, ubuntu, and xubuntu install options.
[10:57] <aztun> yes??
[10:57] <aztun> yaccin: u tried it?
[10:58] <aztun> I dont wanna switch to xubuntu
[10:58] <yaccin> azcurrently downloading ^^
[10:58] <aztun> I like kubuntu boot screen and kdm
[10:58] <yaccin> oh you keep all your kde/kubuntu stuff :)
[10:58] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I thought there was a package that would download and install it for you
[10:58] <Cugel> mena: yes, but I don't know the answer :-)
[10:58] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: lhold on, let me see if I can find it
[10:59] <Soul^Shadow> nope only a bin file
[10:59] <aztun> mmm
[10:59] <Mena> Cugel, okay no prob
[10:59] <Soul^Shadow> the bin extracts the stuff but no installer
[10:59] <aztun> I think I will try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <leiar>  I really want openoffice to be in my native language. My OS is kubuntu dapper with my language as default
[10:59] <bonbonthejon> haypo: do you have single click disabled?
[11:00] <Soul^Shadow> no :P
[11:00] <Soul^Shadow> I can right click or launch in terminal :)
[11:00] <aztun> yaccin: when I try "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[11:00] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: are you talking to me?
[11:01] <Soul^Shadow> yes
[11:01] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I didnt ask you about the single click :)
[11:01] <Soul^Shadow> the file a bin no installer :(
[11:01] <aztun> it wants to install xubuntu-artwork-usplash gdm abiword and many other programs that I dont want
[11:01] <aztun> :(
[11:01] <Soul^Shadow> oh lol
[11:02] <haypo> bonbonthejon: i installed  kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdemultimedia and it works now
[11:02] <yaccin> aztun: yeah :/ figured that
[11:02] <yaccin> !xfce
[11:02] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:02] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: my computer is going slow
[11:02] <bonbonthejon> haypo: good
[11:02] <yaccin> hmm
[11:02] <Mena> i give my voce for kubuntu :)
[11:03] <Mena> voice*
[11:03] <Soul^Shadow> now send me 1 million dollars :P
[11:03] <leiar> How do I change language a programme, like OpenOffice?
[11:03] <mefisto__> I'm trying to solve my menu crashing problem. I've found one program (kdict) that crashes the panel, etc when it's installed. but it used to appear in the menu and worked fine.   Did I miss something?
[11:07] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I thought there was a java unfree package that downloaded, installed, etc., but in feisty its not there any more
[11:07] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: there are other packages available, though
[11:07] <bonbonthejon> mefisto__: if you change icon themes, does it go away
[11:08] <jhutchins> aztun: You could just manually install xfce.
[11:08] <Soul^Shadow> limewire needs sunjava
[11:08] <jhutchins> aztun:  xubuntu-desktop is the whole bundle you'd get with xubuntu.
[11:08] <yaccin> aztun: maybe a dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?
[11:08] <mefisto__> bonbonthejon: I don't think it would. I mean the application icons in the menu
[11:08] <aztun> yaccin: gonna try that
[11:09] <yaccin> or shutdown xserver and then start xfce from terminal
[11:09] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: have you tried frostwire yet, I've never tried it, but its a free version of limewire, and it should be in the repos
[11:09] <jhutchins> aztun: Sorry, not far enough back in the scrollbuffer.  Let us know if that does it!
[11:09] <aztun> I already tried that yaccin
[11:09] <jhutchins> aztun: Did it start?
[11:09] <yaccin> hmm what happened?
[11:09] <aztun> gonna try
[11:09] <aztun> see u in one minut
[11:09] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: and there are lots of sun-java in the repos, it looks like
[11:09] <Mena> sudo apt-get install sun-java(VERSION)-bin
[11:10] <Cugel> mena: I already told him that.
[11:10] <Mena> Cugel, ok
[11:10] <Soul^Shadow> no u dint
[11:10] <Soul^Shadow> utold me goto some damn manual
[11:11] <Cugel> Well, I told you that, too.
[11:11] <Cugel> Still, try it.
[11:11] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: Careful there, you might learn something.
[11:11] <Mena> friends no prob i am sorry
[11:11] <Cugel> jhutchins: yes, I'll get a new beer instead of getting annoyed.
[11:11] <BrettV> i am attempting to install MEPIS on my computer. When I boot to CD i get a command prompt and startx will not load... what do i need to do to install this distro
[11:11] <Soul^Shadow> jhutchins: if I wanted any lip rom u I take it from ur daddys zipper shuddup
[11:11] <Mena> i realy was confused a bout sending it bit i send it without mention any one
[11:11] <testinh> any reason why NetBeans isn't in the repositories yet?
[11:11] <testinh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127149
[11:12] <Mena> Sorry Cugel
[11:12] <Cugel> I have a question myself: when I change desktop (so, to desktop 2 for example) I want my taskbar/kicker only to show the programs running on that desktop. Is there a way  to accomplish this?
[11:13] <Cugel> mena: it's not you. And besides, I'm getting beer anyway ;-)
[11:13] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: So let's see, you've got a bad attitude, you're using foul language, and you're trying to get help pirating stuff.  We should help you why?
[11:13] <aztun> :(
[11:13] <BrettV> anyone familiar with installing from the command prompt?
[11:13] <aztun> if I select xfce on kde I get a blue screen
[11:13] <jhutchins> BrettV: Sure, what'cha need?
[11:13] <Mena> Cugel , configure Desktop
[11:13] <Soul^Shadow> jhut u gettin  smartallek with me when  Inot even talkin to you
[11:14] <Mena> Cugel , Behavior
[11:14] <Soul^Shadow> you should be muted why!
[11:14] <aztun> If I try startxfce4 just can move the mouse with blank screen
[11:14] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: It's a public echo, you're talking to everybody.
[11:14] <Mena> Cugel , not this sorry
[11:14] <BrettV> jhutchins: i am attempting to install mepis but when i boot to the cd all i get is the command line
[11:14] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: Including the guys from the RIAA who lurk here to look for guys like you.
[11:14] <BrettV> jhutchins: what is the command to install the os
[11:14] <Soul^Shadow> public echo.  [Ignore]  Added jhutchins!* to your ignore list
[11:15] <Soul^Shadow> :P
[11:15] <aztun> BrettV: press f2 or f3 for help
[11:15] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: We can all do that.
[11:15] <Mena> Cugel , Configure panel >>>>Taskbar
[11:15] <BrettV> aztun: from the command prompt?
[11:15] <jhutchins> BrettV: Usually some variant of apt-get install... but the whole OS?
[11:15] <aztun> when cd boots
[11:15] <Cugel> mena: let's see -- I failed to find that particular option last time.
[11:15] <Soul^Shadow> WTF u babblin about Jhut didnt use foul language I aint pirating nothing & WTF u smokin, Get off the pipe crackhead :P
[11:15] <Soul^Shadow> oops jhutchins*
[11:15] <Mena> Cugel , no the first option remove the mark
[11:16] <Mena> Cugel , and see
[11:16] <BrettV> jhutchins: yeah i want to format and install
[11:16] <Cugel> mena: dude, indeed! thanks.
[11:16] <Soul^Shadow> BrettV ya might wanna ask someone who not on crack :P
[11:16] <jhutchins> BrettV: You'd probably have to use the mepis installer for that, #mepis would be more help.
[11:16] <Mena> i was confused befor
[11:16] <Mena> no prob
[11:16] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: keep it clean or someone will need to ban you
[11:16] <Cugel> For some reason I missed that option before.
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> I did keep it clean
[11:17] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: did you get java installed yet?
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> he sayin im pirating he on crack
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> no I was interrupted by a reatrd
[11:17] <BrettV> jhutchins: thanks
[11:17] <BrettV> Soul^Shadow: who are you suggesting is on crack :-)
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> hold on I trying to get version of hava
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> I cant find the java when I do a apt-cache search for it either
[11:18] <Cugel> jhutchins: I agree with soulshadow to the degree that installing Limewire doesn't imply piracy. I would use it to get 'illegal' stuff, but still.
[11:18] <Mena> the last one is 6 an i guess , right?
[11:18] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: open adept, its easier to find stuff
[11:18] <Mena> as*
[11:19] <Soul^Shadow> I dont share only d/l music once in a while
[11:19] <bonbonthejon> jhutchins: probably pretty low
[11:19] <Cugel> Indeed, I use bittorrent myself but still.
[11:19] <bonbonthejon> jhutchins: unless you already own something, then it would be higher
[11:19] <manu_> http://www.3delight.com/en/uploads/images/skins/gallery/dog.jpg <-- a manipulated photo or a very realistic rendering?
[11:19] <bonbonthejon> Cugel: bittorent is very nice
[11:19] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: Depending on who you ask.
[11:19] <Mena> Azureuz is the best for downloading :)
[11:20] <Cugel> Yep, using Azureus -- because I didn't like Ktorrent at all.
[11:20] <Cugel> I'd say mutorrent is the best, though.
[11:20] <yaccin> manu_: rendering
[11:20] <jhutchins> I just use straight bittorrent gui.
[11:21] <hatta> I like rtorrent a lot
[11:21] <jhutchins> Most torrents are so pitifully slow anyway, it hardly seems to matter.
[11:21] <hatta> fix it up with screen and a watch directory
[11:21] <Soul^Shadow> torrents slow unreliable
[11:21] <hatta> most public torrents you mean
[11:21] <Mena> azureuz is more speedy bec its use Java
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> that's just not true at all
[11:21] <hatta> private torrents are fast as hell
[11:21] <Cugel> jhutchins: depends on the site -- some private sites are _very_ fast and good. But you need an invitation.
[11:21] <yaccin> java != speedy
[11:21] <yaccin> java = slooooow
[11:21] <yaccin> ^^
[11:21] <Mena> of course the speed depends on seeds and peers
[11:21] <Soul^Shadow> got it noww, didnt show java from  sun before
[11:21] <bonbonthejon> Mena: java is slow
[11:22] <Mena> java slowdown the system but download is fast as i guess
[11:22] <Cugel> Java is slow but it's necessary for many apps.
[11:22] <yaccin> Cugel: yeah :(
[11:22] <Mena> yes like opera
[11:22] <Soul^Shadow> opera nice, firefox is an opera mod ya know
[11:23] <Cugel> firefox an opera mod ... now you're not correct.
[11:23] <Soul^Shadow> lots same features just more added diffret design
[11:23] <Mena> Opera is more advance that firefox and preety
[11:23] <Cugel> firefox did copy many of opera's (good) features, that's for sure.
[11:23] <Mena> pretty*
[11:23] <Mena> than*
[11:23] <Soul^Shadow> what ver opera??
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[11:23] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:24] <Mena> and also opera is more secure it has no holes as i guess
[11:24] <bonbonthejon> copying features is not the same as a "mod"
[11:24] <Mena> ok
[11:24] <Mena> sorry
[11:24] <Soul^Shadow> I had opera 5 or 6
[11:24] <Mena> you are right off topic
[11:24] <Soul^Shadow> well opera core java & menu's are alot like firefox 5 :P
[11:25] <Soul^Shadow> really we talking about opera for linux :P
[11:25] <sergio_> salve
[11:25] <sergio_> qualcuno  sa darmi
[11:25] <sergio_> come ridimensionare
[11:26] <sergio_> le partioni che ho sul pc
[11:26] <Mena> french
[11:26] <sergio_> ho installato su hd1 windows e sulle altre partzioni kubuntu
[11:26] <sergio_> ora
[11:26] <sergio_> vorrei installare anche mac os
[11:26] <Cugel> sergio: English please?
[11:26] <Soul^Shadow> I think u say opera more secure cus ur thinkin linux version, winblows version is insecure but all exploers of internet more secure when in linux
[11:26] <sergio_> no :|
[11:26] <Mena> !ch
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Mena> !french
[11:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:26] <Soul^Shadow> then u want !kubuntu-fr
[11:27] <Mena> as i guess
[11:27] <Cugel> menaL he was talking Spanish.
[11:27] <Cugel> Or Italian.
[11:27] <Mena> spanish hmmmm bec french also had la le
[11:28] <aztun> it worked installing xubuntu-desktop, I could keept my kubuntu usplash and kdm
[11:28] <Soul^Shadow> wuts diffrence between xubuntu & others?
[11:28] <jhutchins> mena, Cugel that was italian, !it would have worked I think.
[11:28] <spitwise> Soul^Shadow: the window manager
[11:28] <Cugel> !it
[11:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:29] <Mena> ok
[11:29] <Cugel> Yes.
[11:29] <mefisto__> does apt have a history list?
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> what is it a standard gui with certain options others dont pervide
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> I know that :P
[11:29] <Mena> leet him/here choose
[11:29] <Mena> lett*
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> never seen xubuntu yet :p seen all others almost
[11:29] <testinh> try dream linux instead of xubuntu
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> her
[11:29] <Cugel> Me neither -- but on my dual core machine I think I don't need XFCE.
[11:29] <Mena> heheh sorry
[11:30] <Mena> :)
[11:30] <jhutchins> A lot of people like xfce because it is so un-windows.
[11:30] <testinh> thunar isn't that great though
[11:30] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, thanks :D
[11:30] <jhutchins> mefisto__: Yes, it has a history log at least, poke around /var/log.
[11:30] <Soul^Shadow> uuumm ok my java install at 5% & holding ??
[11:31] <Soul^Shadow> np
[11:31] <Mena> show details
[11:31] <Soul^Shadow> did no options or anything
[11:31] <Mena> you using adept or terminal
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> adept
[11:32] <Mena> okay Show deatils
[11:32] <Mena> details*
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> fawk lemme paste details of your details & there lack of detail
[11:32] <Mena> or what ever*
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> I did
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> ther enothing ther for options not waiting on othing
[11:33] <Mena> okay
[11:33] <Mena> see lue window
[11:33] <Mena> blue
[11:33] <epimeth> I think I'm having a hal problem...
[11:33] <epimeth> anybody upgraded to feisty and lost their ntfs partitions?
[11:33] <Soul^Shadow> so what the hal is your problem :P
[11:33] <Mena> i write so much :D
[11:34] <epimeth> that way nobody makes any more puns :-p
[11:34] <Mena> hheeehh ok
[11:34] <spitwise> i think xubuntu uses xfce
[11:34] <Mena> you dont loss you rntfs partition
[11:34] <Mena> ntfs
[11:34] <epimeth> I know... I just can't access them...
[11:34] <epimeth> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[11:34] <Mena> check the uuid
[11:34] <Soul^Shadow> http://pastebin.ca/373654
[11:35] <Mena> i dont have much inf
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> check that Mena
[11:35] <Mena> what
[11:35] <epimeth> how do I do it, what do I change it to?
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> note that its cut off why I left extra psace there
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> my details on java
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> its where its stopped at
[11:35] <Mena> ok
[11:36] <Mena> blkid in terminal
[11:36] <jhutchins> epimeth: Just guessing here, but probably in fstab.
[11:36] <Mena> to see your uuid
[11:36] <Mena> then open fstab    sudo kate /etc/fstab
[11:36] <Soul^Shadow> omg now my apt wont show Cus I killed it
[11:36] <Mena> hmmm
[11:36] <Mena> okay
[11:36] <Mena> Soul^Shadow,
[11:37] <leiar> I am not able to get my own language in Kubuntu, I've installed several language packages in synaptic, but it still is English
[11:37] <jhutchins> Looks like the java installer's license agreement got another one.
[11:37] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, open terminal
[11:37] <Mena> maybe
[11:37] <epimeth> hmmm... that told me nothing
[11:37] <Soul^Shadow> I am trying that now, but I dont know name
[11:37] <Soul^Shadow> not full name
[11:38] <Mena> epimeth, what is there
[11:38] <Mena> epimeth, sorry
[11:38] <Mena> sec
[11:38] <Soul^Shadow> ah found it
[11:38] <jhutchins> epimeth: Is there a user option on the line for your ntfs partition in fstab?
[11:38] <epimeth> http://pastebin.ca/373660
[11:38] <leiar> anybody know how to change language in kubuntu? I've tried langname=
[11:38] <epimeth> my ntfs partition isn't in fstab
[11:38] <jhutchins> leiar: Change your locale
[11:39] <Mena> epimeth, SURE
[11:39] <Soul^Shadow> ooohh locked in terminal :(
[11:39] <Mena> !fixadept
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <leiar> jhutchins: haven't got my language in locale
[11:39] <Soul^Shadow> lemme try killin proccess
[11:39] <epimeth> yes!  help is on its way!!!
[11:39] <Mena> !fix-adept
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <Soul^Shadow> !kill-adept :P
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kill-adept :p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <epimeth> adept isn't fixed yet... I just checked
[11:39] <guiden> I have put a password on the hub I have, but I don't remeber it, what can I do?
[11:39] <Cugel> Think!
[11:39] <guiden> Can I reset the momory?
[11:40] <guiden> if I unplugg it?
[11:40] <epimeth> !Think
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about think - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <epimeth> :-)
[11:40] <posingaspopular> what Cugel said
[11:40] <leiar> jhutchins: I can write locale=no in konsole
[11:40] <Mena> epimeth, if you cant see your part i cant help you i dont knwo much maybe some else help you
[11:40] <Cugel> Well, unplug it and see what happens.
[11:40] <Soul^Shadow> ok no permission to kill it either :P
[11:40] <epimeth> Mena, I pastebined my fstab
[11:40] <Cugel> Use your standard passwords first?
[11:40] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, open your kdesystemguard and see
[11:40] <epimeth> you didn't see it?
[11:40] <Cugel> And use sudo.
[11:40] <jhutchins> epimeth: Sorry if you already answered this, but it doesn't look like your ntfs is in your fstab, what partition is it?
[11:40] <Soul^Shadow>  I did I cant kill em no permission :P
[11:40] <epimeth> ahh
[11:41] <epimeth> its not there
[11:41] <epimeth> but media:/ has the drives
[11:41] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, ok
[11:41] <leiar> how do I change locale?
[11:41] <jhutchins> epimeth: Ah, but they don't want to mount with you as user, they want to mount as root.
[11:41] <Soul^Shadow> ok how I sudo in gui?
[11:41] <epimeth> when I try and open them, I get hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[11:41] <willy> #kubuntu-es
[11:41] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   thsi for fixing adept
[11:41] <jhutchins> epimeth: Do you know what partitions they are?
[11:41] <epimeth> jhutch: exactly
[11:41] <Mena> but not yet
[11:42] <epimeth> jhutchins, when I mount -t manually they mount
[11:42] <epimeth> but I can't give my user permissions to read them
[11:42] <lontra> is there an image manipulation program for kde like gimp?
[11:42] <epimeth> I'd also like write access, but I understand its buggy
[11:42] <Soul^Shadow> Uuuummm I got 3 running I need to kill em no permision to do so :P
[11:42] <geiss> hi, i'd like to mount my usb device with pmount. however, on this machine there is only pmount-hal which expects a UDI as the first arg. what is a UDI and what do i have to pass there?
[11:42] <epimeth> jhutch: all of hdc and hda1/2
[11:42] <jhutchins> epimeth: Sounds like the system's doing too much of the thinking for you, protecting you from yourself.
[11:42] <Soul^Shadow> wuts name of kdesysguard?
[11:43] <jhutchins> epimeth: Just one part on hdc?
[11:43] <epimeth> open the mounted filesystem doors, hal
[11:43] <epimeth> I'm afraid I can't do that, epi
[11:43] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, Ksysguard
[11:43] <jhutchins> epimeth: You got it.
[11:43] <Soul^Shadow> oh dud I was close :P
[11:43] <epimeth> its all 7 hdc partitions
[11:43] <Soul^Shadow> duh* :P
[11:43] <jhutchins> epimeth: So what I'd do if I were you is set them up in fstab to automount.
[11:43] <epimeth> 1/2/3/5/6/7/8
[11:44] <epimeth> but why did it break when upgrading to feisty?
[11:44] <jhutchins> epimeth: Wow, that's a lot of partitions.
[11:44] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, sec plz
[11:44] <epimeth> its a 180GB hd
[11:44] <jhutchins> epimeth: Because feisty is moving more stuff to user mode, not always successfully.
[11:44] <jhutchins> epimeth: You understand that Feisty is _supposed_ to be broken, and the main reason for running it is to find bugs and report them so they can be fixed for release, right?
[11:45] <epimeth> of course
[11:45] <Soul^Shadow> DIE DIE DIE adept :P
[11:45] <jhutchins> epimeth: So you need help setting that up?
[11:45] <epimeth> this just seems like kind of a silly thing to be broken, is all
[11:45] <epimeth> jhutch, please
[11:45] <Soul^Shadow> got em dead
[11:45] <epimeth> also, do where do I nitify the feisty ppl?
[11:45] <jhutchins> Ok, using sudo mkdir, make mount points for each partition.
[11:45] <epimeth> launchpad?
[11:45] <lontra> is krita similar to gimp?
[11:45] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, sudo killall adept_manager
[11:46] <epimeth> jhutch:  waaait
[11:46] <epimeth> I want it to work from media:/ too
[11:46] <Soul^Shadow> np I did a kdesu on ksysguard :)
[11:46] <epimeth> isn't there a way to reconfigure hal?
[11:46] <jhutchins> epimeth: So rather than having them permanently automounted, you want to fix HAL?
[11:46] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, did you try
[11:47] <epimeth> exactly
[11:47] <jhutchins> epimeth: The problem I've had when I tried to work with hal is that there are too many ways to reconfigure it, and it's pretty hard to figure out which one is being used, and which part is broken.
[11:47] <epimeth> then I can automount with the gui through media:/
[11:47] <Soul^Shadow> yeah now sasy ap-get -f install to correct :P
[11:47] <Gtwy> kubuntu in vmware isnt going so well
[11:48] <jhutchins> epimeth: Only suggestion I can offer there is to file a bugreport and lurk heavily in #ubuntu+1.
[11:48] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, do it
[11:48] <Soul^Shadow> I am I am
[11:48] <epimeth> where do I file the bug report
[11:48] <leiar> seems like kuuntu hasn't found the right drivers for my video card. My highest resolution is 1074-768
[11:48] <Soul^Shadow> :p im not that fast at keyboard :P
[11:48] <jhutchins> !bugs | epimeth
[11:48] <Mena> !bug
[11:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:48] <ubotu> epimeth: please see above
[11:48] <epimeth> and I have plenty of time to sift through conf files... I just dunno where they are :-)
[11:48] <epimeth> man hal?
[11:49] <epimeth> !hal
[11:49] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[11:49] <Soul^Shadow> damn bugs everywhere
[11:49] <Soul^Shadow> :P
[11:49] <makuseru> does anyone know how to get blender 2.43
[11:49] <leiar> What do I do to install the propper driver to my videocard, and what do I write to find the name of the videocard?
[11:49] <makuseru> is it in any reops?
[11:49] <epimeth> launchpad it is
[11:49] <Cugel> leiar: time to read something about xorg.conf.
[11:49] <jhutchins> !ati | leiar
[11:49] <ubotu> leiar: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:49] <Soul^Shadow> OK, how do I click ok?? wont let me use kb or mouse :(
[11:50] <jhutchins> leiar: lspci usually gives you enough to go on.
[11:50] <Soul^Shadow> nvm
[11:50] <epimeth> so jhutch... where might I find hal's config files?
[11:50] <Soul^Shadow> geese what a pain in the arse :P
[11:50] <Mena> tab
[11:50] <Mena> prees tab
[11:50] <nagyv> Soul^Shadow: try tab and then enter
[11:50] <Soul^Shadow> nvm means nevermind :P
[11:50] <jhutchins> epimeth: There are too many for me to recall, and they vary from release to release and distro to distro.
[11:50] <coreymon77> jhutchins: do i now just install alsa?
[11:51] <epimeth> right...
[11:51] <jhutchins> epimeth: If you're serious about this, you'll need to find a wiki or something on hal and udev and read up.
[11:51] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Yeah, I take it it went fine?
[11:51] <Soul^Shadow> ay now limewire BETTER install :P
[11:51] <Mena> Why kick
[11:51] <coreymon77> yup
[11:51] <jhutchins> Sorry, got my sound mutes 'cause it's picking up a radio station and sounds like the inside of a steam factory.
[11:52] <Soul^Shadow> OMG now another error, an x1 eror!
[11:52] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, id it wrok java limewire
[11:52] <Soul^Shadow> X11*
[11:52] <Mav> c' nessuno?
[11:52] <coreymon77> jhutchins: does it matter that i still have alsa related packages that were not unintsalled
[11:52] <Mena> did*
[11:53] <Soul^Shadow> got java
[11:53] <Mena> work*
[11:53] <Mena> okay good
[11:53] <Soul^Shadow> now limewire not wanting to install error in X11
[11:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: We're going to hope not.  We can always go deeper.
[11:53] <guiden> youtube google vide, flash right?
[11:53] <guiden> vedo
[11:53] <guiden> video
[11:53] <epimeth> jhutchins, will do...
[11:53] <Cugel> soul: what error.
[11:53] <coreymon77> jhutchins: so just alsa-base for now
[11:53] <Soul^Shadow> hold on I pastbin it
[11:53] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, no idea sorry
[11:53] <coreymon77> jhutchins: right?
[11:53] <jhutchins> guiden: All kinds, but yes, mostly flash 8 & 9.
[11:53] <Mena> Soul^Shadow,pastbin it maybe others would help
[11:54] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Right.
[11:54] <guiden> ok
[11:54] <coreymon77> jhutchins: okay
[11:54] <jhutchins> Mmff, 17:00, I need to finish some stuff here...
[11:55] <yaccin> !xfce
[11:55] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:55] <Soul^Shadow> pos error is: http://pastebin.ca/373676
[11:55] <coreymon77> jhutchins: its doen
[11:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: one question
[11:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: in the sound system settings page in system settings,
[11:56] <Soul^Shadow> lemme restart ........
[11:56] <Soul^Shadow> bbs
[11:57] <coreymon77> jhutchins: is it a problem that in the hardware tab, for midi device, there is nothing in the drop down list?
[12:00] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Shouldn't be, unless you're trying to do midi stuff.
[12:00] <coreymon77> and
[12:00] <coreymon77> for the things that it said i should use autoremove for
[12:00] <morvok> anyone know of an app I can use to text message people?
[12:00] <coreymon77> some of them seem important
[12:01] <Mena> ANy one know a very good apps for ediiting video files
[12:01] <coreymon77> such as system-services
[12:01] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Well, re-run apt-get autoremove, and see what it says.
[12:01] <Mena> excpet kino and cileranaa*
[12:01] <coreymon77> jhutchins: but isnt system-services and important package?
[12:01] <jhutchins> coreymon77: You're probably going to have to at least restart to get alsa reloaded, and you may need to do a dpkg reconfigure alsa (that's probably not the right syntax).
[12:01] <coreymon77> jhutchins: it seems so by the name
[12:02] <Mena> i asked befor but maybe someone know something else
[12:02] <Soul^Shadow> mena any ideres?
[12:02] <Mena> no sorry
[12:02] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Yes, but some important packages are just containers, and alsa was probably contained by system-services which was contained by ubuntu-minimal.
[12:02] <Soul^Shadow> headless error
[12:02] <jhutchins> Mena: Yes!
[12:02] <Soul^Shadow> WHO chopped off its head???
[12:02] <jhutchins> Mena: I've been using avidemux2
[12:03] <Soul^Shadow> Im coming for you !!! :P
[12:03] <jhutchins> Mena: Not as fancy and polished as cinnelera, but works great.
[12:03] <Mena> jhutchins, okay i will see it thanks
[12:03] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, pastebin again and ask maybe some one would help
[12:03] <jhutchins> Mena: Are you going to be mastering DVD's?
[12:03] <Mena> jhutchins, no realy
[12:04] <Soul^Shadow> I think jhutchins chopped off its head :P
[12:04] <Soul^Shadow> http://pastebin.ca/373676
[12:04] <coreymon77> jhutchins: so
[12:04] <coreymon77> now what
[12:04] <Soul^Shadow> plz help me with that error ne1 who can
[12:04] <jhutchins> coreymon77: restart to reload alsa.
[12:04] <Mena> jhutchins, but i wont to resize some video files and with good qaulity
[12:04] <jhutchins> coreymon77: See if you can get sound.
[12:05] <jhutchins> Mena: mplayer/mencoder/ffmpeg, or avidemux.
[12:05] <Mena> jhutchins, I will try avidemux
[12:05] <jhutchins> Mena:  avidemux allowed me to do some automatic cropping, filtering, and transcoding as well as edit chunks out.
[12:05] <Mena> jhutchins, form its name its suppotortted avi files :D
[12:06] <jhutchins> Mena: Most formats.
[12:06] <Mena> jhutchins, cool
[12:06] <Mena> jhutchins, is it included in the repo
[12:07] <Mena> jhutchins, i cant find it
[12:07] <Mena> even with terminal search
[12:07] <jhutchins> Mena: Try avidemux2
[12:07] <Mena> ok
[12:08] <Mena> jhutchins, its as the one a bove
[12:08] <jhutchins> Hrmn...
[12:08] <jhutchins> It's in Mandriva, so you'd think...
[12:08] <jhutchins> Let me hop over to the other machine...
[12:08] <leiar> I've read about my videocard: Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP, and it doesn't look easy to get it working in higher resolutons than 1074*768. Any comments?
[12:08] <Mena> jhutchins, ok
[12:09] <jhutchins> !find avidemux
[12:09] <ubotu> Found: avidemux
[12:09] <jhutchins> !avidemux
[12:09] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[12:11] <coreymon77> jhutchins: nope
[12:11] <Soul^Shadow> help me pl error is : http://pastebin.ca/373676
[12:11] <Gtwy> what is the deal with the live cd? i dont remember it being so slow
[12:12] <Mena> ok i will take that
[12:12] <epimeth> Soul: run it in X, maybe?
[12:12] <jhutchins> Mena: Possibly you need to enable multiverse.
[12:12] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Gaah.
[12:12] <Mena> jhutchins, i found it
[12:12] <Mena> jhutchins, :)
[12:12] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Wow.  This is a tough one.
[12:13] <coreymon77> jhutchins: im downloading an edgy livecd
[12:13] <jhutchins> coreymon77: We KNOW plain vanilla soundblasters work in kubuntu.
[12:13] <coreymon77> well then wtf is the problem
[12:13] <yaccin> Soul^Shadow: tried starting it from k-menu / via alt+f2?
[12:13] <Soul^Shadow> nah I got it


[11:31] <uebera||> Hi. What's the best/suggested way to reach someone who can reset a "Fix released" status on Launchpad? (See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pbuilder/+bug/1762890)
[13:17] <hggdh> uebera||: there are comments on the bug, after what I believe is your question
[15:14] <uebera||> hggdh: thx, will have a look.


[08:13] <Rumen> hi there
[08:14] <Rumen> In Bionic LTS I don't see Skype icon in status bar
[08:14] <Rumen> any idea how to make it appear?
[08:16] <Rumen> I saw some solutions for Unity, but are they the same for gnome?


[12:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:45] <mparillo> KDE Frameworks 5.71 landed for me this morning in GG. No problems in a VM.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> 'Morning mparillo, same here, but not in a VM..all seems fine tho
[13:00] <RikMills> mparillo: https://people.ubuntu.com/~rikmills/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.71_groovy_proposed_migration.pdf
[13:05] <mparillo> Hmm, when I clicked the link, Falkon, my default browser did not open it. But Chomium did. And that graph makes it look as if there is more to come.
[13:08] <RikMills> mparillo: there is. some very long libreoffice tests are still running, which stop kio and kconfig (and anything that depends on them) migrating
[13:14] <BluesKaj> noticed the geo location map isn't showing up here on FF https://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:16] <BluesKaj> same goes for chrome browser
[13:17] <BluesKaj> OS is GG
[20:21] <holyws> is being unable to use alt chars via alt + numpad keys just a kde thing or
[22:00] <santa_> RikMills: FYI I've just pushed a small fix to the kwayland-server copyright file
 Anyone else loose most of their keyboard shortcuts today?


[23:55] <MarkDude> bkerensa, pingy
[23:56] <bkerensa> MarkDude: ys?
[23:57] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Yes?
[23:59]  * MarkDude just went to Loco Council to clarify that only MarkDude created account
[23:59] <MarkDude> and that Oregon wanted nothing to do with it
[23:59] <MarkDude> As Council members stated to me at UDS
[23:59] <MarkDude> Oregon is gonna be approved


[10:52] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[13:37] <InHisName> So long teddy - going on a trip ?
[13:37] <InHisName> To a grocery store maybe ?  Hmmmmm
[22:54] <JoeBk> hello


[15:42] <rich> hey there. A friend of mine who is using Lubuntu on his MS Surface recommended me Lubuntu for using it with a Fujitsu Stylistic Q7310. Does anyone have experience with that? I havent bought the Tablet yet ;)


[05:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: foonathan-memory [amd64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.7.2-2] (no packageset)
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[08:45] <sil2100> Hello everyone! In some moments I will be re-spinning 22.04.1 desktop image - but this will be a non-candidate test image for the snapd OEM-install fix
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apt [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.6.16]
[08:55] <RikMills> sil2100: ack
[08:56] <RikMills> and morning :)
[09:10] <sil2100> o/
[09:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cryptsetup [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [2:2.5.0-1ubuntu1]
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[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cryptsetup [source] (jammy-proposed) [2:2.4.3-1ubuntu1.1]
[09:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Jammy 22.04.1] has been updated (20220808)
[09:56] <sil2100> mardy: hey! The new image is ready ^ and via the manifest I see the right snapd snap being pulled in "snap:snapd edge 16727"
[10:00] <sil2100> mardy: can you give it a spin?
[10:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (focal-proposed/main) [2.55.5+20.04 => 2.56.2+22.04ubuntu1] (core)
[10:08] <sil2100> Okay, so mvo uploaded the .deb version of snapd with the fix. I'll get it into Unapproved and will build another image with it for testing purposes
[10:09] <sil2100> (possibly -proposed enabled, or maybe pulled in via a PPA)
[10:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (focal-proposed) [2.56.2+22.04ubuntu1]
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[12:04] <ahasenack> hi all, I'm on +1 maintenance this week
[12:04] <ahasenack> #PSA
[12:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.56.2+22.04ubuntu1]
[12:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.56.2+22.04ubuntu1]
[12:25] <jbicha> ubuntu-archive: I need help with bug 1983372
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dkim-rotate [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.4]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted foonathan-memory [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.7.2-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted foonathan-memory [armhf] (kinetic-proposed) [0.7.2-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted foonathan-memory [riscv64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.7.2-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted meshoptimizer [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.18+dfsg-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted meshoptimizer [armhf] (kinetic-proposed) [0.18+dfsg-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted meshoptimizer [riscv64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.18+dfsg-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted elbe-keyring [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [20220614]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted foonathan-memory [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed) [0.7.2-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted meshoptimizer [arm64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.18+dfsg-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted meshoptimizer [s390x] (kinetic-proposed) [0.18+dfsg-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted foonathan-memory [arm64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.7.2-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted meshoptimizer [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed) [0.18+dfsg-2]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted foonathan-memory [s390x] (kinetic-proposed) [0.7.2-2]
[12:39] <fnordahl> Hello, I have an upload to jammy-proprosed that appears stuck, does anyone have insigths?: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/614063377/ovn_22.03.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[12:43] <schopin> fnordahl: from https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ovn your package FTBFS on armhf
[12:44] <schopin> Oh right, jammy, sorry :/
[12:45] <tsimonq2> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru
[12:47] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
[12:47] <schopin> I see ovn in the unapproved queue for Jammy
[12:47] <tsimonq2> fnordahl: My best guess is that you'll see it accepted on Friday or so once 22.04.1 is out. I think they're basically only accepting security updates right now
[12:49] <sil2100> Yeah, if it's an upload in the Unapproved queue then I can try reviewing it later today, but seeing that there's 22.04.1 + matthieu out this week, I'm a bit swamped to do regular SRU shifts
[12:51] <fnordahl> thanks for the inputs. I was unaware of the ftbfs, I'll chekck those!
[13:53] <ahasenack> ubuntu-archive: hi, audacity was removed from debian testing today (https://tracker.debian.org/news/1352473/audacity-removed-from-testing/), it fails to build with current ffmpeg and needs a major version bump (3.1.3) + big patch (https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/3121/files)  to do so. We might consider removing it from kinetic too
[13:53] <ahasenack> reverse-depends is ugly though :(
[13:54] <ahasenack> the other option is going ahead of debian on this one, and take ownership of its maintenance
[14:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> ahasenack: Ubuntu Studio lead here. We seed audacity. I'm going to give a strenuous "NOPE" on removing it. We need to do whatever we can to keep from removing it, it's a very widely used and high-profile application.
[14:18] <ogra> there is a well maintained snap of audacity though ... (3.1.3 as well)
[14:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> It was removed from testing, but not unstable.
[14:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> ogra: I'm not going to seed a snap if a .deb exists.
[14:19] <ogra> your choice ... just wanted to point out that there is a version that works, is well maintained and would be able to update independent of the OS
[14:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> ogra: Right, I mean, if it comes down to it as "I had no choice" I'll definitely do it. :)
[14:21] <ogra> 🙂
[14:29] <ahasenack> Eickmeyer[m]: yeah, I figured once I saw the rdeps
[14:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> ahasenack: Also commented on the bug. :)
[14:30] <ahasenack> Eickmeyer[m]: do you happen to know the debian maintainer?
[14:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> ahasenack: Pretty sure it falls under the entire multimedia team.
[14:32] <ahasenack> found an older update request bug, which first highlighted that the package is stale: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacity/+bug/1924841
[14:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> ahasenack: Dennis Braun was last to touch the packaging. I think part of the problem is that audacity has some undesirable characteristics that hit with 3.0 that they wanted to remove, so nobody has touched it. https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/audacity
[14:33] <ahasenack> ah, you even commented on the bug I just linked
[14:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yep, just now.
[14:34] <ahasenack> I mean, the other one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacity/+bug/1924841
[14:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh yeah.
[14:34] <ahasenack> wgwidgets, hm
[14:35] <ahasenack> we don't have 3.1, nor does debian
[14:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, that's a blocker.
[14:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Probably what's been preventing this.
[14:37] <ahasenack> and now there is 3.2, supposedly ABI stable I guess?
[14:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's what I'm reading too.
[14:37] <ahasenack> released July 7th 2022
[14:39]  * Eickmeyer[m] scours salsa
[14:40] <ahasenack> audacity: PKG_CONFIG "wxwidgets >= 3.1.3"
[14:40] <ahasenack> (master branch)
[14:41] <Eickmeyer[m]> ahasenack: https://salsa.debian.org/freewx-team/wxwidgets3.2
[14:41] <ahasenack> it's in the NEW pocket still
[14:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, we're just waiting on the FTPMasters.
[14:42] <ahasenack> for this one step, yes
[14:43] <ahasenack> we "could" go through NEW in ubuntu first, with a lower version, and sync later when debian accepts it
[14:43] <ahasenack> let me update the bug first with this info
[14:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, so there's hope. I can ping Dennis when it hits unstable, or we can JFDI.
[14:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> Or there's that option.
[14:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok
[14:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Jammy 22.04.1] has been updated (20220808.3)
[14:52] <ahasenack> I wonder how to get notified when 3.2 is accepted from NEW
[14:52] <ahasenack> it's not in the debian tracker yet, since it's a new package
[14:52] <ahasenack> I guess I'll watch salsa for now
[14:53] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, unfortunately.
[14:53] <ahasenack> ah, subscribe to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=919903
[14:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, that would make sense. 😅
[15:04] <mardy> sil2100: I tried the image, but unfortunately it seems that the connections are still being deleted. It's a bit of a mystery to my why this happened, but I'm looking at the logs.
[15:07] <vorlon> ogra, Eickmeyer[m]: "there is a snap" does not mean it's maintained to the standards required for seeding in images
[15:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> vorlon: Agreed. Now that I think about it, it likely doesn't have the right track for a seed anyhow.
[15:08] <ogra> vorlon, this one surely is (diddledani is one of the most reliable snap maintainers we have) 🙂 but yeah, it isnt "canonical tagged" ... i wouldnt have mentioned it if i wouldnt blindly trust the packager though
[15:09] <mardy> xnox: hi! About your comment on the systemd "default" target not being the best option, do you have a link to where you read that? Because, indeed, it looks like our workaround did not work, but I struggle to understand why.
[15:09] <vorlon> ogra: is the snap built in launchpad? do we know where the source is? does the Ubuntu community have access to patch it?  Do we have a way to apply security updates? "reliable snap maintainer" is a very small part
[15:10] <vorlon> mardy: "did not work" - was this anything other than the bootstrap problem that the snapd snap's own mount unit needs to have the right WantedBy= and therefore we have to update both the deb and the snap?
[15:10] <vorlon> (per my comment on the bug)
[15:12] <ogra> vorlon, not sure if the snap is built in LP or via GH actions ... but given diddledani waits for her final "go" to finally start working in the desktop team i bet all non-matching bits around your questions could easily be arranged 🙂 a direct link to the source is in the package description
[15:13] <ogra> either way, U-Studio prefers the deb anyway ... so this is probably moot ...
[15:14] <mardy> vorlon: no, the WantedBy= line is there, and has the expected value
[15:17] <mardy> vorlon: there is no line in the logs saying "Reached target: OEM Configuration", like what I would expect from looking at https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/tree/data/oem-config.target
[15:19] <mardy> I'll collect the logs and paste them
[15:37] <sil2100> mardy, vorlon: can you try the latest desktop jammy image I built?
[15:38] <sil2100> mardy, vorlon: it has the new snapd deb *only*, it's built using a PPA that should have built with -updates + snapd 2.56.2+22.04ubuntu1
[15:39] <sil2100> I can also build one with both
[15:39] <sil2100> But mvo seemed to imply only the .deb one needing to be updated
[15:43] <sil2100> Anyway, this started getting me worried, since if this by some chance does not work, we might not be able to make it for Thursday!
[15:48] <sil2100> vorlon: also, I'm thinking of releasing ubuntu-release-upgrader to -updates later today, do you think there's any risk doing that before we respin .1 candidates?
[15:48] <sil2100> Guess it could wait but then again I think we have another u-r-u fix queued up
[15:48] <arraybolt3[m]> I can test.
[15:49] <mardy> sil2100: I'll try tomorrow morning unless vorlon beats me to it
[15:49] <mardy> arraybolt3[m]: oh, super!
[15:49] <arraybolt3[m]> Gimme a minute to get set up and sync the image and I'll try whatever you want.
[15:50] <mardy> sil2100: my feeling is that the fix is just not the right one. Not sure why, but that "OEM Configuration" target does not seem to be triggered...
[15:50]  * mardy is EOD
[15:50] <sil2100> arraybolt3[m]: thanks!
[15:50] <sil2100> arraybolt3[m]: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jammy/daily-live/20220808.3/jammy-desktop-amd64.iso <- I guess this is the image
[15:51] <arraybolt3[m]> Thanks, that will make things easy.
[15:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mysql-8.0 (focal-proposed/main) [8.0.30-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 8.0.30-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[15:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> FYI everyone: arraybolt3 became a full-fledged Lubuntu (and therefore Ubuntu) Member this weekend. Yes, that's me 100% embarrassing him. :)
[15:56] <arraybolt3[m]> LOL I didn't feel embarrassed by it. Thank you guys for everything you've done to help me get here!
[15:57] <bdmurray> sil2100: the ubuntu-release-upgrader changes are only in DistUpgradeQuirks.py which is only used during release upgrades so there is very very very little risk in releasing it before .1
[15:57] <bdmurray> sil2100: Also on Friday I noticed that the mirrors list could use an update as there were quite a few changes to the mirrors list
[15:58] <sil2100> Let me check up on the validation of u-r-u and then release it
[15:59] <sil2100> arraybolt3[m]: congrats! \o/
[15:59] <jbicha> arraybolt3[m]: welcome!
[15:59] <sil2100> It is certainly deserved
[16:00] <arraybolt3[m]> sil2100, jbicha: Thank you, glad to be here!
[16:13] <arraybolt3[m]> sil2100: zsync complete, testing VM now. Any special steps other than a simple OEM installation and then test out snaps?
[16:14] <sil2100> arraybolt3[m]: I think just the usual OEM install as you did previously, as I remember you were able to reproduce the issues
[16:14] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍 Will report back soon.
[16:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Thanks for your patience, my first install b0rked (I think it had something to do with how I handled the VM, not with the ISO itself) and I had to do a second one. I'm almost done with the second one now.
[16:47] <sil2100> Fingers crossed!
[16:48] <arraybolt3[m]> sil2100: Well, I'm not sure if anything was supposed to happen in a log or whatever, but Firefox is launching out of the box on a fresh OEM install with the image you gave me.
[16:48] <sil2100> yaaay!
[16:48] <sil2100> vorlon: ^
[16:48] <arraybolt3[m]> snap-store also is working.
[16:48]  * sil2100 dances
[16:49] <sil2100> arraybolt3[m]: thanks for testing this! It's good news, since I was worried that by some weird chance the fix is not sufficient
[16:49] <sil2100> vorlon: can you give it a spin as well? Just to get a bit more test coverage
[16:49] <arraybolt3[m]> Sure, happy to help! That was really fun!
[16:49] <arraybolt3[m]> I'll plop my testcase on the QA tracker.
[16:59] <bdmurray> sil2100: I could test it, which image should I use?
[17:00] <sil2100> bdmurray: latest amd64 desktop image, I pasted a direct link somewhere earlier in the backlog o/
[17:00] <arraybolt3[m]> This is the one I used: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jammy/daily-live/20220808.3/jammy-desktop-amd64.iso (sil2100 gave me the link)
[17:01] <bdmurray> thanks
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openimageio [amd64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2] (ubuntustudio)
[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openimageio [s390x] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2] (ubuntustudio)
[17:16] <xnox> mardy, one moment please.
[17:17] <xnox> am i connected
[17:17] <xnox> is mardy still here?
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openimageio [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2] (ubuntustudio)
[17:45] <vorlon> xnox: you ar econnected and mardy is not
[17:46] <vorlon> xnox: but if you want to argue about default.target, I'm here :)
[17:46] <bdmurray> my testing of OEM install looks good
[17:48] <vorlon> sil2100: ^
[17:48] <sil2100> \o/
[17:49] <vorlon> I'm going to do a test as well but don't expect to find anything different
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openimageio [armhf] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2] (ubuntustudio)
[17:50] <xnox> vorlon:  i wrote more about it on the closed github issue. Basically default.target is a on-disk symlink, which may or may not be the target one actually booted. As one can override which target one boots to, without it being default.target. meaning for many cases we still have the bug.
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openimageio [arm64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2] (ubuntustudio)
[17:51] <vorlon> xnox: ok; how would we solve the problem more generally then?
[17:56] <vorlon> (or feel free to link me to the github issue)
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nginx [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.22.0-1ubuntu1]
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openimageio [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2]
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openimageio [armhf] (kinetic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2]
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openimageio [s390x] (kinetic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2]
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openimageio [arm64] (kinetic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2]
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openimageio [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu2]
[18:02] <xnox> vorlon:  see all the comments on https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12011#issuecomment-1208396784
[18:07] <jbicha> sil2100: Firefox ran fine after OEM install. I tested both with and without Internet access during install.
[18:11] <sil2100> Great news, thanks everyone!
[18:11] <sil2100> I asked Sergio from the snapd team to run their snapd SRU validation tests on it
[18:12] <sil2100> Hopefully we'll be releasable tomorrow and can spin candidate images ASAP
[18:17] <bdmurray> It'd be good to update the SRU bug - bug 1983528 w/ testing results too
[18:41] <sil2100> jbicha, arraybolt3[m]: ^
[18:41] <arraybolt3[m]> sil2100: On it.
[18:47] <sil2100> Thank you!
[19:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-1.16 (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.16.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 => 1.16.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.2] (no packageset)
[20:34] <vorlon> xnox: thanks, fair enough. fwiw I did find other units with WantedBy=default.target on my system so it seems we have other bugs
[20:34] <vorlon> (nvme-cli, e2fsprogs, zsys)


[03:00] <maileh> hi people anybody home !!!
[03:12] <thetrav> so I'm trying to protect my maas web ui with TLS (https) however I can't seem to find any docs on it.  When I reconfigure apache to enforce https only I lose a bunch of connectivity (cluster to region controllers, also metadata servers)
[03:24] <maileh> my issue has been on every maas forum but none is able to help ... i believe no many has come across such issue
[03:25] <maileh> should i downgrade maas just to check ??/
[03:39] <maileh> anybody !!! somebody
[03:41] <maileh> you don't have to give any solution, just want your direction then i'll be happy to continue looking for that solution to my issue
[03:41] <maileh> roaksoax: ???? you there now !!!
[07:32] <freak_> i'm facing an issue when i try to enlist node it says could not find kernel image
[07:33] <freak_>  i'm facing an issue when i try to enlist node it says could not find kernel image.maas version 1.9
[11:04] <mup> Bug #1577722 opened: MAAS 2.0.0 cannot commission Dell PowerEdge R610 <commissioning> <dell> <failure> <maas> <poweredge> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577722>
[11:34] <mup> Bug #1576987 opened: package tgt 1:1.0.63-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 <amd64> <apport-package> <xenial> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576987>
[13:01] <dimitern> blake_r, mpontillo, roaksoax: maas/juju network interlock?
[13:20] <roaksoax> dimitern: we are at the sprint
[13:23] <roaksoax> dimitern: sorry, I had nacked the meeting invite
[13:23] <dimitern> roaksoax: I've suspected that; np - nothing to report from our side anyway
[13:23] <roaksoax> dimitern: k thanks!
[14:41] <mpontillo> dimitern: I need to get better about checking my calendar before I sleep. my apologies.
[15:38] <neiljerram> Does anyone know about booting Xenial on MAAS?  I get the problem you can see here: http://pasteboard.co/EjweYbB.png
[15:53] <mup> Bug #1577838 opened: Xenial boot fails with 'Invalid path for Logical Volume' <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577838>
[17:11] <mup> Bug #1577863 opened: [1.9.2] Using Xenial Kernel by default to enlist/commission and can't seem to be able to change it <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577863>
[18:41] <mup> Bug #1577890 opened:  [2.0b3] UEFI PXE boot fails on Intel NUK - OrangeBox <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577890>
[20:51] <mup> Bug #1577932 opened: [2.0.0] filter accordion collapse arrow not working <ux> <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577932>
[21:06] <mup> Bug #1577932 changed: [2.0.0] filter accordion collapse arrow not working <ux> <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577932>
[21:15] <mup> Bug #1577932 opened: [2.0.0] filter accordion collapse arrow not working <ux> <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577932>
[21:45] <mup> Bug #1577953 opened: [2.0b4] Rack Controller fail to update commissioning info? <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577953>
[21:54] <mup> Bug #1577954 opened: [2.0b4] Rack Controller mark-broken / mark-fixed  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577954>
[22:15] <mup> Bug #1577960 opened: [2.0b4] After commissioning, subnet lists 'observed' IP address for machines <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577960>
[22:57] <mup> Bug # opened: 1577970, 1577972, 1577974, 1577976, 1577977
[23:00] <mup> Bug #1577978 opened: [2.0b4] Reconfigured VLAN HA to 'deselect' secondary rack controller, but didn't happen <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577978>


[00:14] <uio> no ideas??
[00:24] <uio> Hi, using Lubuntu 16.04 LTS on an Asus Eee PC Flare series. I just installed the updates via the update centre today and now when I boot I can see the decrypt screen fine, but the login screen is all black. If I use the Fn keys to ak the machine hiberanate then upon pressing the 'on' button it resumes and screen is fine. I didn't have this issue before, but perhaps I should mention that the decrypt screen is always too dim unless I use the brightness keys.
[00:24] <uio> The brightness keys have no effect on this new problem though. Any thoughts? Thanks!
[00:25] <wxl> are you don't any manual kernel updates? i.e. not just taking the stock kernel?
[00:26] <uio> wxl, I just followed Lubuntu's automatic update manager...
[00:27] <uio> So I got the one everyone else did I guess…
[00:27] <wxl> it's most likely a video issue of some kind but one would hope kernel modules wouldn't get worse if they worked before
[00:28] <uio> wxl, That's what I thought too, but sometimes progress is, well not really.
[00:28] <wxl> what does `uname -a` give you? and could you pastebin up /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/dmesg
[00:30] <uio> Linux g1dc 5.0.0-23-generic #24~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jul 29 16:07:48 UTC 2019 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:40] <wxl> curious. it looks like that version isn't available until disco https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=linux
[00:41] <wxl> what does `lsb_release -c` tell you?
[00:45] <uio> Sorry, thanks, but I have to go, I'll be back another time!a
[08:48] <Brex> Hey guys, my Lubuntu 19.04 virtual machine froze up and I had to kill it. Now on boot my desktop is a blank black background with no icons, and the taskbar takes a long time to load and clicking it seems to lock up the system for a few moments. Been trying to google but a lot of the info seems to apply more to older releases. Not entirely sure how
[08:48] <Brex> I would go about fixing it, would be super grateful if anyone has any insight
[08:50] <Brex> Also this is probably helpful info - renaming my entire .config folder fixed the issue but I'm not certain which subfolder in there did it. Renaming the whole thing removed a lot of important config info for my software so I restored it and tried renaming a few specific folders that I thought might be related to the window manager and stuff, but I
[08:50] <Brex> haven't been able to get it fixed like it was when i renamed the entire .config
 @brex I wouldn't try that many more times that could effect many different programs
[08:51] <Brex> Yeah it was probably a bad idea, was just something I found while googling but the folders for stuff don't seem to be the same as in the older releases
[09:14] <Brex> So I saved a snapshot of the machine so I could safely tinker a bit, and I deleted the config folder again and while the taskbar and windows are now responsive, the default desktop background didn't get restored and is still black (last time, it got restored.) At any rate, one of the things in this folder (the original config folder) is the issue -
[09:14] <Brex>  anyone know which it might be? If I know what it is, I can restore the old snapshot and just delete the offending folder: https://i.imgur.com/Jt0mJOY.png
[09:16] <Brex> As complete guesses I have already tried lxpanel, lxqt, pcmanfm-qt, and openbox. None of those fixed it, but they seemed like the most obvious ones to try so I'm not sure what to try now
[11:50] <giga> hi
[11:51] <giga> anyone here?
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[11:51] <Guest76198> anyone here?
[11:51] <tomreyn> !ask
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[19:01] <totti> hallo
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[23:13] <n-iCe> hi