[00:00] <DSdavidDS> Tinche:  Thanks
[00:00] <Tinche> or you can wait for the next version of ubuntu and you won't have to add the ppa
[00:00] <DSdavidDS> Tinche: but I am not that experienced with linux yet
[00:00] <hardtail> hmm seems to have worked schaap137, going to try it shortly
[00:00] <SCHAAP137> cool hardtail
[00:01] <Tinche> you're welcome, if you find issues please report to https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make
[00:11] <bradlyatc> anyone installed on an old macbook?
[00:11] <OerHeks> bradlyatc, sure, see the mactel pages
[00:11] <OerHeks> !mac
[00:12] <OerHeks> How old, powerpc ppc ?
[00:14] <bradlyatc> OerHeks, late 2007 64 bit core2 duo
[00:16] <daftykins> !mac | bradlyatc
[00:16] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Trusty
[00:17] <duckx0r> what's with #debian  being invite only?
[00:18] <OerHeks> duckx0r, maybe you need to register your irc name first.
[00:18] <duckx0r> OerHeks, I am registered and identified...
[00:18] <duckx0r> OerHeks, ok, now i got in somehow. thanks.
[00:23] <Guest65340> hi all can someone help me find the printer driver for Canon LBP6030W printer.
[00:24] <Apachez> anyone else experienced in ubuntu 14.10 that gedit hangs and then just vanishes?
[00:25] <OerHeks> Guest65340, see #kubuntu
[00:26] <daftykins> bradlyatc: bad luck , i wrote that guide :D
[00:27] <C4RR3> Hey, I'm trying to use SSL to update software and what-not. Problem = Comcast seems to block Port 25... Is there a work-around this? My Google searches have proven unfruitful thus far. Thanks in advance.
[00:27] <daftykins> what do you mean 'use SSL' ?
[00:27] <c^> C4RR3 > leave comcast
[00:27] <c^> 25 is the telnet port right?
[00:27] <C4RR3> lol that is good advice
[00:28] <c^> why are you pissing about with Telnet?
[00:28] <daftykins> wrong
[00:28] <C4RR3> I can't upgrade / connect to Ubuntu servers to upgrade
[00:28] <C4RR3> wrong port probably idk
[00:28] <c^> via telnet?
[00:28] <c^> uh huh
[00:28] <daftykins> ISPs do not block destination ports.
[00:28] <c^> Comcast do daftykins
[00:28] <bradlyatc> daftykins, just having bad luck with bootloaders and other distros...seeing if ubuntu will work
[00:28] <c^> They're awful like that
[00:28] <C4RR3> here i gots links wait a sec
[00:28] <c^> k
[00:28] <C4RR3> http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/list-of-blocked-ports/
[00:28] <c^> Hehehe
[00:29] <daftykins> bradlyatc: the touchpad doesn't work right in ubuntu, you have to lay down a full thumb segment instead of just use the tip which is weird
[00:29] <C4RR3> "Port 25 is unsecured, and Botnet spammers can use it to send spam. This does not affect XFINITY Connect usage. We recommend viewing Using Email Client Programs with Comcast Email to use port 587."
[00:29] <C4RR3> in other words: "We're Comcast and we locked you out of the interwebs"
[00:29] <c^> 25 is Telnet.
[00:29] <c^> Why would you use it otherwise
[00:29] <Pici> 25 is smtp
[00:29] <C4RR3> ahhhh
[00:29] <c^> Oh yeah
[00:29] <c^> shit, so it is
[00:29] <C4RR3> then why can't I fetch packages
[00:29] <daftykins> c^: no it is not, please stop lying to people.
[00:29] <c^> why would you be fetching packages from SMTP servers?
[00:29] <c^> daftykins > it's called making a mistake
[00:30] <daftykins> it's quite clearly a case of someone describing something inaccurately.
[00:30] <c^> It's 2am and I've been awake for around 48 hours
[00:30] <C4RR3> okay let me rephrase: I've been trying to sudo apt-get update and all that jazz and none of it is connecting
[00:30] <daftykins> c^: then please take a break and stop trying to advise people :)
[00:30] <C4RR3> nice c^
[00:30] <Pici> C4RR3: Why do you think that this is a blocked port issue? Can you pastebin the results of your apt-get upgrade?
[00:30] <c^> Jesus daftykins, I've worked in ops for 20 years. Please don't scrutinize me like that, not appropriate.
[00:30] <C4RR3> yes Pici i'll get right on that
[00:30] <c^> I made a mistake, I apologize.
[00:30] <Goose_> hey everyone
[00:30] <daftykins> c^: no need to be so defensive, we're on the side of the users here - if you're unfit to offer advice, take a break :)
[00:31] <Goose_> Got some drama brewing up in here I see
[00:31] <c^> daftykins "please stop lying to people."
[00:31] <c^> as you said.
[00:31] <Pici> Lets just move on...
[00:31] <Goose_> WAIT. I may need popcorn for this
[00:31] <c^>  daftykins!*@* added to ignore list.
[00:31] <daftykins> \o/
[00:32] <Goose_> How is there drama in #ubuntu of all places
[00:32] <c^> I know right
[00:32] <hardtail> :D
[00:32] <daftykins> happens pretty regularly sadly.
[00:32] <Goose_> Weird.
[00:32] <c^> there was drama in #affection on another IRC server I use yesterday
[00:32] <c^> It was quite amusing
[00:32] <Goose_> oh that's interesiing
[00:32] <C4RR3> http://pastebin.com/UrVbi3DJ
[00:32] <C4RR3> Pici, http://pastebin.com/UrVbi3DJ
[00:33] <Goose_> Anyway, anyone got any news on the updates coming to 15.04?
[00:33] <C4RR3> Let me know if this means anything, I'm getting too frustrated to process lol
[00:33] <daftykins> !12.10
[00:33] <Goose_> Like, confirmed changes coming
[00:33] <daftykins> C4RR3: you're trying to update a dead release.
[00:33] <C4RR3> Okay so I need to upgrade?
[00:33] <acz32> ubuntu is rolling-release, right?
[00:33] <daftykins> please upgrade to a supported ubuntu release, then we might be able to help you
[00:33] <OerHeks> Goose_, support for vivid in #ubuntu+1 please.
[00:33] <Pici> acz32: nope
[00:33] <C4RR3> I run on Xubuntu
[00:33] <k1l_> C4RR3: 12.10 is dead long time ago.
[00:33] <C4RR3> ooooh
[00:33] <C4RR3> thanks youguise (and gals)
[00:34] <Goose_> Oerheks: What?
[00:34] <k1l_> C4RR3: you need to upgrade to 13.04 then 13.10 then 14.04
[00:34] <acz32> Pici: ok, then semi-rolling release by just doing dist-upgrade?
[00:34] <Goose_> You can't just jump from 12.10 to 14.04?
[00:34] <OerHeks> !15.04 | Goose_
[00:34] <k1l_> Goose_: no
[00:34] <Goose_> OH. haha thanks amn
[00:34] <C4RR3> Ugh, just sudo apt-get upgrade but results in a buncha 404's
[00:35] <Goose_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:35] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | C4RR3
[00:35] <k1l_> Goose_: that is not helping him
[00:35] <C4RR3> Goose_,  thanks i'll try that!
[00:35] <daftykins> the mirrors change. that's why they error out
[00:35] <daftykins> because the OS is dead
[00:35] <C4RR3> oooh interesting
[00:35] <C4RR3> how do we revive it?
[00:35] <C4RR3> metaphorically speaking
[00:35] <daftykins> by following the link you were already told
[00:35] <acz32> updating sources.list
[00:35] <k1l_> C4RR3: read the bots message
[00:35] <OerHeks> Goose_, dist-upgrade does not do a distribution upgrade
[00:35] <Goose_> Oh, sorry then
[00:35] <daftykins> acz32: no, never. that is *never* the way to update Ubuntu
[00:36] <acz32> daftykins: really?
[00:36] <daftykins> yeah, 'cause i just said :)
[00:36] <C4RR3> k1l_, oooh reading link now thanks
[00:36] <acz32> why?
[00:36] <C4RR3> sorry for the oohs and ahhs i just feel expressive today is all
[00:36] <daftykins> because that is not the supported method, acz32
[00:36] <daftykins> things will break from using the debian strategy
[00:36] <acz32> daftykins: i already know that. i'm asking why
[00:36] <daftykins> except that you suggested it 0o
[00:36] <acz32> because i use it
[00:37] <acz32> but then again i do use debian too and assumed it's safe for my ubuntu machine
[00:37] <k1l_> acz32: ubuntu uses the updater. that handles PPAs and stuff.
[00:38] <acz32> so you have to download the new disc image and boot from it?
[00:38] <daftykins> nope
[00:38] <acz32> or just an updater
[00:38] <daftykins> !upgrad
[00:38] <daftykins> !upgrade
[00:38] <acz32> ok
[00:38] <C4RR3> k1l_, daftykins : So I just read that link and there is nothing about upgrading from 12.10 to the new one
[00:38] <C4RR3> Lots of other versions though
[00:39] <k1l_> acz32: update-manager or "do-release-upgrade" is the ubuntu way
[00:39] <daftykins> C4RR3: yeah you can't go direct. truthfully, just backup and clean install. you'll lose less hair
[00:39]  * C4RR3 isn't usually this noob, sorry y'all
[00:39] <k1l_> C4RR3: its a generic instruction.
[00:39] <C4RR3> daftykins, oooh that's sad news
[00:39] <EriC^^> acz32: you just run one command, sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:39] <k1l_> C4RR3: you are thet much behind the plan, there is no actual instruction naming your versions. so use the generic one
[00:40] <C4RR3> kkk i'ma look for a new hard drive to transfer dis shit into my other raptops then
[00:40] <janmsistooschr> does sudo apt-get upgrade perform the necisarry tasks to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.x
[00:40] <C4RR3> thanks y'all for your help and patience
[00:40] <C4RR3> Much love.
[00:40] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: no
[00:40] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[00:41] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: you need to change the sources.list to old-releases like explained. than you can use the updater
[00:41] <acz32> interesting
[00:41] <acz32> that's pretty simple
[00:42] <k1l_> and rule of thumb: if you dont like regular release-upgrades: stay on the LTS!
[00:42] <janmsistooschr> the old releases has been added
[00:43] <acz32> i'm thinking about switching to ubuntu from debian to have newer software. in debian if you upgrade repos to testing, you don't get security updates. what's the situation in ubuntu? i think it's based on debian testing. does that mean also no security updates?
[00:43] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: now run update-manager and see if it offers a update
[00:43] <janmsistooschr> it looks like apt-get upgrade just wants to upgrade the packages
[00:43] <k1l_> acz32: dont mic ubuntu and debian there
[00:44] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: yes. apt-get upgrade doesnt bring you to 13.04
[00:44] <k1l_> acz32: *mix
[00:44] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: gui or cli?
[00:45] <acz32> k1l_: pardon?
[00:45] <k1l_> acz32: ubuntu ships security and bugfixes to its supported devices
[00:45] <janmsistooschr> k1l_, using the cli
[00:46] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: do-release-upgrade is the command to upgrade to new release
[00:50] <hellhound> I I have a desktop using Ubuntu 14.04 and have been having issues getting suspend to work. If I reboot the machine suspend will work fine the first time, but after that the computer will only lock the screen but not power the monitor or hard drives down. The screen will flash off and than back on every few minutes though. Can anyone give me any suggestions?
[00:52] <janmsistooschr> k1l_, do you know how to terminate processes in a cloud environment?
[00:53] <k1l_> sorry, cloud is not my business
[00:53] <janmsistooschr> When they are made to jump cpu's on multi cpu networks
[00:53] <janmsistooschr> k1l_, Didn't ubuntu move to a cloud model?
[00:54] <k1l_> ubuntu got cloud services. but its not what i do with ubuntu.
[00:54] <Coldfusionstorm> screw cloud, Everythung good is distributed
[00:55] <daftykins> too much vapourware some might say.
[00:59] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: killing processes in a remotely hosted Ubuntu environment is exactly the same as in a locally installed one. One thing that you should be careful of though is that if you only have a container then you can't upgrade the kernel. In that case, and if the currently running kernel ("uname -r") is old you may need to downgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (which is still supported) by re-installing, or move to a better ...
[00:59] <Jordan_U> ... host.
[01:00] <janmsistooschr> Jordan_U, What is meant by moving to a better host?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: If your host doesn't use a recent kernel, and you need one, then you should move to a host that does use a recent kernel. If your host is really using the kernel from Ubuntu 12.10 then you should definitely find a better host, as that kernel isn't supported any more.
[01:03] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: As in, find a different company to pay for hosting.
[01:03] <janmsistooschr> The host is supposed to be the machine hardware.
[01:03] <janmsistooschr> But with virtio its sometimes unknown outsourcing of the kernel.
[01:04] <janmsistooschr> II dusted off a very old uniprocessor machine due to this problem.
[01:04] <janmsistooschr> Does Ubuntu offer a current version for uniprocessor machines without virtio?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: That is why I prefaced that comment with "if you only have a container...", which may not be the case for you. If you're using "virtio" then you are not running bare metal, "virtio" is short for "virtualization IO".
[01:06] <janmsistooschr> Yes Jordan_U all kernels past 2.6.26 use virtio.
[01:06] <hellhound> I have a desktop using Ubuntu 14.04 and have been having issues getting suspend to work. If I reboot the machine suspend will work fine the first time, but after that the computer will only lock the screen but not power the monitor or hard drives down. The screen will flash off and than back on every few minutes though. Can anyone give me any suggestions?
[01:06] <janmsistooschr> Unless there is something patched to run on local hardware only.
[01:07] <janmsistooschr> I dusted off a very old uniprocessor machine due to this problem.
[01:08] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: Please link to what you are talking about for "virtio" and what you think it means, because I'm thinking of http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio which is relevant only for virtualization.
[01:08] <arooni-mobile> hey folks ; i have ubuntu 14.10;  on a t420 with brand new mobo; when I plug in headphones; i continue to hear the sound through the speakers ( I can also hear it from the headphones ) ... what to do?  already tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working (top two solutions) without luck
[01:08] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: All versions of Ubuntu will work fine with a single processor.
[01:09] <janmsistooschr> Yes this is what I am speaking of kernel virtual machines it uses the concept started with google code project for dragonflyBSD
[01:09] <janmsistooschr> I wan't something that shall run using only local hardware.
[01:10] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: And you're planning to run VMs on top of your Ubuntu system that's on bare hardware? I don't understand why you keep talking about wanting "bare hardware" then talking about a technology only relevant to virtual machines.
[01:10] <janmsistooschr> There is some interesting theory to test.
[01:11] <janmsistooschr> Jordan_U, No I want my system to be run non virtualized, I do not want any virtualization.
[01:11] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: You're also talking about "cloud" and "local hardware", which is not neccessarily mutually exclusive, but still fairly confusing. What is your end goal in all of this?
[01:12] <janmsistooschr> Jordan_U, I want my system to be run non virtualized, I do not want any virtualization.
[01:12] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: So why are you talking about virtio?
[01:13] <janmsistooschr> Jordan_U, the kernels have it built in
[01:14] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: OK, they also have support for original SNES game controllers built in. Why is that relevant to you if you're going to use neither SNES controllers nor virtualization?
[01:14] <janmsistooschr> Ubuntu uses virtio as do most newer distros.
[01:15] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: OK, they also have support for original SNES game controllers built in. Why is that relevant to you if you're going to use neither SNES controllers nor virtualization?
[01:15] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: that is optional.
[01:15] <janmsistooschr> Ubuntu uses virtio as do most newer distros.
[01:15] <janmsistooschr> It is not optional. As it appears.
[01:15] <k1l_> jamesd_: so is the use of vmware, virtualbox, containers like docker or lxc etc.
[01:16] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: i dont see your actual issue?
[01:16] <janmsistooschr> heh
[01:16] <janmsistooschr> Isn't that the problem with virt.
[01:17] <k1l_> i see you ranting on the word virtio. i dont see you having any real support issue or question
[01:18] <janmsistooschr> Does Ubuntu offer a current version for uniprocessor machines without virtio?
[01:18] <Nova_> Hey. New to Ubuntu here. Can I get a little assistance with an issue?
[01:19] <k1l_> Nova_: just give details :)
[01:19] <lbracher> janmsistooschr: you can recompile kernel without it.
[01:19] <lbracher> Nova_: yes.
[01:20] <janmsistooschr> can ubuntu do it
[01:20] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: sorry but your questions dont make any sense
[01:20] <Nova_> So I made a liveUSB to try it out.  I have a belkin router so why is this happening?
[01:20] <realityphantom> Janmsis What do you need help with?
[01:21] <lbracher> janmsistooschr: yes. give a look into www.kernel.org on how to recompile kernel. But, as k1l_ told before, it will have no impact on your system if you are not using virtualization. Current stock Ubuntu will work for your need.
[01:22] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: you dont need to use virtualisation. if you choose to you have several choices on ubuntu.
[01:22] <realityphantom> WAzwizwazzle
[01:22] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: and what do you mean exactly with uniprocessor? can you specify that?
[01:23] <lbracher> Nova_: your system automatically connected to another wifi network.
[01:23] <lbracher> try selecting manually your network.
[01:23] <Nova_> I connected to my network. Manually as well. It's happened on my phone as well, strangely enough
[01:24] <k1l_> Nova_: so its a router thing? maybe you need to allow the wifi clients to use the internet on the router setup
[01:25] <compdoc> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS released
[01:26] <Nova_> That's just what I don't get. It's a belkin router, so why is a netopia router credentials message popping up? The only thing I know is my phone and Ubuntu both run a Linux kernel so maybe that's a reason?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: Processors don't support or not support virtio, so your question does not make sense. Additionally virtio is *not* used if you're not using kvm. If you think otherwise, please provide a link to the documentation that states that virtio is used when not using kvm.
[01:27] <shadaloo> what do I input to see the specs of the motherboard im running?
[01:27] <k1l_> shadaloo: lshw
[01:27] <shadaloo> want to know what the best memory this board supports
[01:27] <shadaloo> any tools recommended?
[01:27] <Jordan_U> janmsistooschr: Again, similarly processors don't support or not support SNES controllers, it's simply a driver in your kernel. Ubuntu's kernel supports SNES controllers. Ubuntu does not require support for SNES controllers if you don't plan to solder an SNES controller to your serial port.
[01:28] <janmsistooschr> What about sidewinder gamepads?
[01:29] <janmsistooschr> Jordan_U, the goal here is for glory
[01:29] <k1l_> janmsistooschr: please stop trolling in here and wasting time of volunteers
[01:30] <janmsistooschr> I have the plans in my mind
[01:30] <janmsistooschr> Certain theorys have to be tested before the exact specifics emerge
[01:34] <Nova_> Ok, so apparently Netopia is a type of modem. And apparently my apartment complex uses a Netopia modem. Soooo I can't use Ubuntu. This blows
[01:34] <k1l_> Nova_: you can. you just need to set it to let your client go through
[01:35] <Nova_> What exactly does that mean and how would I go about doing that?
[01:36] <k1l_> Nova_: like giving the mac adress of that machine a wildcard. but that depends on the actual machine. so ask the one who is responsible for that router
[01:37] <arooni-mobile> hey folks ; i have ubuntu 14.10;  on a t420 with brand new mobo; when I plug in headphones; i continue to hear the sound through the speakers ( I can also hear it from the headphones ) ... what to do?  already tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working (top two solutions) without luck
[01:38] <cheadle> #docker
[01:41] <Talpio_> Good nigth, guys! I have the next problem: eject: the closure order the CD-ROM failed: i/o errors. Who help me?
[01:49] <Talpio_>  Good nigth, guys! I have the next problem: eject: the closure order the CD-ROM failed: i/o errors. Who help me?
[02:04] <PushNPull> can i install windows 10 on ubuntu phone?
[02:04] <hardtail> anyone have experience with ubuntu and bay trail devices?
[02:05] <daftykins> what specifically?
[02:05] <hardtail> asus t100
[02:13] <manticove> Is there a difference between the apt-get repositories on the liveCD vs the ubuntu I just installed with it?
[02:14] <manticove> I was able to install wifi drivers on the liveCD demo, but when I try from the new install, it needs to fetch from online
[02:15] <manticove> (I could install in the liveUSB demo without internet, which is confusing)
[02:16] <joshumax> Hi, I'm trying to cross-compile dpkg for an armv7-based board, but I've run into a strange problem... Running configure results in a fatal error that states that `arm [is] not found in cputable`, although I've checked and arm is indeed in the cpu table list...
[02:16] <fengshaun> can I dd an ubuntu image to a usb and boot it?
[02:17] <monokrome> Does anyone know how I can fix a gap between dual monitors on nvidia drivers?
[02:17] <joshumax> fengshaun: depends on what the Ubuntu image contains...you'll definitely need a boot-loader contained in the image
[02:17] <fengshaun> 14.10 desktop
[02:18] <joshumax> Where did you get the image from?
[02:18] <fengshaun> the website
[02:18] <fengshaun> ubuntu.com
[02:19] <joshumax> Then yes, just use dd to raw-write it to the usb drive
[02:19] <fengshaun> thanks
[02:19] <fengshaun> how about the server image?
[02:20] <joshumax> If it comes in a raw disk image, then probably yes as well
[02:20] <fengshaun> thanks
[02:20] <manticove> is there a way to download a package from apt-get one box (one that has internet), and then install it on another box? (one that does not have internet)
[02:21] <joshumax> most new versions of apt support apt-get download
[02:21] <Talpio_> Good nigth, guys! I have the next problem: eject: the closure order the CD-ROM failed: i/o errors. Who help me?
[02:21] <joshumax> something like mkdir some_package && cd some_package && apt-get download some-pkg should work
[02:22] <daftykins> fengshaun: all the ISOs work fine dd'd to USB, yep
[02:22] <fengshaun> daftykins: awesome, thanks
[02:22] <joshumax> Wait, ISOs?
[02:23] <daftykins> just make sure to do so to the disk device and not a partition, so e.g. /dev/sdx not /dev/sdx1
[02:23] <joshumax> How can that even work?
[02:23] <daftykins> it does.
[02:25] <joshumax> Sounds hacky though...why not just use unetbooten which can boot directly off of a USB fat partition...?
[02:31] <joshumax> Intesersting, so the ISO 9660 has a 32kb buffer to store generic boot information...
[02:34] <Talpio_> man eject: -t   With this option the drive is given a CD-ROM tray close command. Not all devices support this command.
[02:34] <Rastart> hello? is there anyone in here? really easy question, i suppose. not really good with tech english speaking so try to understand me.
[02:35] <joshumax> Rastart: hello
[02:35] <Rastart> you know when you browse files..you got 2 kind of views.
[02:35] <Rastart> ok when you browse your files with advanced infos you got lots of infos.
[02:35] <joshumax> browse files using nautilus or another method?
[02:35] <azizLIGHT> anyone using chrome beta on 14.04? i updated and now whenvver i close chrome and re-open it, it complains that it didnt shut down properly. i even reset chrome and it still does this
[02:36] <Rastart> but sometimes i can't read it entirely when char lenght is too high without reducing the zoom.
[02:36] <significance> Hello all! I'm getting `operation not permitted` when trying to create symlinks in /boot, even when using the root terminal. What's going on?
[02:36] <Rastart> because..and here is my problem...
[02:36] <Rastart> my ubuntu doesn't expand the info tabs in the adv.view.
[02:36] <joshumax> significance: What partition type is /boot on your system?
[02:36] <Rastart> can you help me please?
[02:37] <joshumax> Rastart: is it safe to assume you're using nautilus?
[02:37] <significance> joshumax - how might I check/
[02:37] <significance> ?
[02:38] <significance> Oh - now I get it, it's conflicting with my past EFI. Thanks!
[02:38] <Rastart> Joshumax: oh,sorry. i'm running ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[02:39] <joshumax> significance: I was going to suggest that your boot partition was using FAT, which doesn't support symbolic links, but whatever solves it ;)
[02:39] <joshumax> Rastart: ah, so nautilus then
[02:40] <Rastart> well i don't mean browsing files with  unity thing.
[02:40] <Rastart> browsing files into directories.
[02:40] <joshumax> Do you have a screenshot of the problem?
[02:42] <Rastart> joshumax are you talking with me? cause you don't need that to understand,really. is the |NAME|TYPE|DIMENTION|ETC| thing that doesn't expand with the mouse drag n' drop at the border "|"
[02:43] <Rastart> screen shot would not help. can you understand me now?
[02:43] <daftykins> the columns are only resizable when you're in one of the view types, afaiui
[02:43] <daftykins> saw a page online about it once
[02:44] <aurorauser> anyone know why cherokee web service doesn't start
[02:44] <joshumax> Rastart: it should, that's why I was asking for a screeenshot
[02:44] <aurorauser> I run service cherokee start
[02:44] <aurorauser> and it says Starting Cherokee server
[02:45] <daftykins> with sudo?
[02:45] <aurorauser> root user, so yea
[02:45] <daftykins> oh dear.
[02:45] <sonex> anybody know why i would get "/dev/sdc1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!" when I attempt to mkfs my second and third sata drives?
[02:45] <daftykins> find its' log file?
[02:45] <daftykins> sonex: already mounted?
[02:46] <sonex> no
[02:46] <Rastart> well it's about how that work...i can see the same thing as you can... but i can't expand to see larger names. i will make an example:
[02:46] <daftykins> well don't shoot the suggestions :>
[02:46] <aurorauser> well, theres a cherokee.error log
[02:46] <aurorauser> and thats blank lol
[02:47] <Rastart> THISISTHENAMEOFTHEFILE.FILE |.FILE extention| 0kb|
[02:47] <Bashing-om> sonex: Where is your swa[ partition ? If swap is in use, then that partiton is mounted .
[02:47] <Rastart> long file name..so what i see is:
[02:47] <Rastart> THISISTHEN..|.FILE|0kb
[02:48] <Rastart> and no possibility to see the full name cause it doesn't expand when i drag n' drop on the "|"
[02:48] <Rastart> that's it.
[02:50] <Rastart> why can't i resize columns? what should i do? it should resize you said that joshumax.
[02:50] <sonex> Bashing-om: the only drive mentioned in the /etc/mtab is the drive that has the /boot mount point all the other stuff is system/tmp mounts that don't use a full disc
[02:50] <joshumax> I'm taking a look at GtkTreeView bugs
[02:50] <daftykins> Rastart: change the view type as i suggested
[02:51] <joshumax> See if trying what daftykins does works first
[02:51] <sonex> it let's me partition /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1- but won't let me mkfs
[02:51] <Rastart> the icon view? but i need most of times the other view..so how to solve that problem with that view?
[02:51] <Rastart> sorry for being a brutal talker.
[02:52] <joshumax> If not try running nautilus -c from the terminal
[02:52] <daftykins> Rastart: just try it to confirm please.
[02:53] <joshumax> Interesting --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/369833/nautilus-can-not-resize-column-ubuntu-13-10
[02:54] <daftykins> i knew it was a known thing
[02:54] <joshumax> yes but it sees to be a gtk/nautilus bug
[02:55] <Rastart> suppose not using nautilus ? .
[02:55] <joshumax> This is why I use pcManFM
[02:55] <Bashing-om> sonex: -> swapon --summary <- to see where swap is , -> sudo swapoff -a <- to turn swap off , drives partitioned prior to 'mkfs' to make a file system ?
[02:55] <daftykins> bit of a joke of a distro that can't keep its' core apps functioning, one would be forgiven for thinking
[02:56] <joshumax> Aha! -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/361391/files-name-column-basically-useless-in-list-view-feature-or-bug
[02:56] <sonex> yep. just trying to add two additional drives to the box.
[02:57] <joshumax> This *might* help Rastart -- http://askubuntu.com/a/361404/68227
[02:57] <joshumax> if you feel like hunting down the bug I'm sure somebody would be willing to fix it
[02:57] <Rastart> thans you, wise joshumax. i'm cheking it.
[02:57] <daftykins> so, that thing i said about view mode :>
[02:57] <Dayofswords> Does anyone know how to change the mount options of something the system mounted itself? Like an external drive of sorts.
[02:58] <daftykins> tad irriating when you say something twice and it's still not been tried.
[02:58] <Bashing-om> sonex: The guide I find useful : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive .
[02:59] <joshumax> Dayofswords: The nice graphical approach way should be possible with GNOME disks
[02:59] <sonex> k.t hanks.
[03:00] <joshumax> Hey would you look at that, the nightly build of gtk3 is completely borked
[03:00] <drewbert> Is there a way to detect which gnome-terminal tab has focus?
[03:00] <joshumax> I can't use any gtk widgets anymore!
[03:01] <joshumax> drewbert: perhaps https://developer.gnome.org/vte/unstable/ might help...
[03:01] <Dayofswords> joshumax: I'll give it a shot
[03:01] <Rastart> When the file manager is your active window. Go to Files > Preferences. Here you will find a "List Columns" and you can check or uncheck the columns that you actually need. In this way you can make a workaround of your problem.
[03:01] <Rastart> you refer to this?
[03:01] <joshumax> Yes, why?
[03:01] <lafrancis> hello ubuntians
[03:03] <lafrancis> can anyone help me with a litlle problem ?
[03:03] <drewbert> joshumax: are you referring me to the api documentation in general, or is there something in the unstable version specifically that may help?
[03:03] <Rastart> because i already tryed to solve that way but still got the same problem with reaaaaally long names. (not more than 255 still or whatever the limit is,,)
[03:03] <joshumax> drewbert: Well I found this, which might actually be better -- http://ruby-doc.org/gems/docs/c/consular-gnome-terminal-0.1.1/Consular/GnomeTerminal.html
[03:04] <lafrancis> my software updater just shows the top bar the rest of the window is not showing up i cant run any updates
[03:05] <joshumax> Well then I hate to say it, but you have 2 options...either use another file manager, or read up on the Glib documentation
[03:05] <Rastart> what i need is to bring back the drag n'drop resize function to my file browsing experience. as i can resize any window i would like to resize tabs in that view too...
[03:06] <Rastart> how to check what my file manager is?
[03:06] <Rastart> cause i suppose nautilus is not mine
[03:06] <Rastart> or maybe not well installed?
[03:07] <joshumax> Rastart: possible...it's most likely nautilus
[03:07] <lafrancis> how do i reinstall software updater
[03:07] <joshumax> lafrancis: apt-get install --reinstall update-manager as root?
[03:08] <Rastart> i already had several system errors that i never found what their source was.
[03:08] <Rastart> lol
[03:08] <joshumax> Rastart: Heh, apport is the most useless package on my system too
[03:09] <lafrancis> joshumax, thanks hope this works
[03:09] <Rastart> you know when you do absolutely nothing and everything around you self-destroys for no fukin reason?
[03:09] <lafrancis> joshumax, didnt work :(
[03:09] <joshumax> What happened?
[03:10] <Rastart> that what happened to my computer..maybe something gone wrong with some attempt to understand its wisdom.
[03:10] <Rastart> sometimes computers are more complicated than women.
[03:10] <lafrancis> joshumax,  when i try and install updates all i get is the top bar of the updater with the x and - symbol
[03:10] <Rastart> expecially when you can't understand both.
[03:11] <joshumax> Except one comes with GNU man pages
[03:11] <joshumax> lafrancis: Ugh I swear GTK was invented by evil gremlins
[03:12] <joshumax> lafrancis: try a package purge
[03:12] <lafrancis> joshumax, command please
[03:12] <Rastart> well how can i reinstall nautilus safely without creating more problems to my already too much traumatized pc?
[03:12] <joshumax> lafrancis: sudo apt-get remove --purge update-manager && sudo apt-get install update-manager
[03:13] <joshumax> Rastart: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[03:13] <Rastart> so it should be enough?
[03:14] <fengshaun> I'm trying ubuntu on a usb, but the cursor doesn't show up at all!
[03:14] <lafrancis> joshumax, invalid entry sudo
[03:14] <joshumax> Rastart: it might be, it might not, or it might not even fix it at all
[03:14] <Rastart> ok what was the " nautilus -c "command for?
[03:15] <joshumax> lafrancis: nautilus self-check
[03:15] <joshumax> lafrancis: Wat
[03:15] <Rastart> just making a try.would like to solve it someway.
[03:15] <lafrancis> joshumax, nevermind figured it out
[03:15] <Rastart> well i reinstalled but nothing changed.
[03:16] <joshumax> you can try running nautilus from the terminal as well to see if any gtk warnings pop up
[03:16] <lafrancis> joshumax, nautilus self-check failed and other command didnt fix it
[03:17] <joshumax> Wait, it did?
[03:17] <joshumax> Really??
[03:17] <joshumax> This is getting interesting, what failed and where
[03:17] <Rastart> well when i write nautilus in terminal it opens me the home folder.
[03:17] <Rastart> so i suppose it is working.
[03:17] <lafrancis> joshumax, yes
[03:18] <Rastart> but still not possible to resize tabs
[03:18] <lafrancis> no such file or directory
[03:18] <joshumax> lafrancis: I didn't even know you were having nautilus trouble
[03:18] <joshumax> oh
[03:18] <joshumax> I think somewhere along the line you started doing stuff I was telling to Rastart
[03:18] <joshumax> Rastart: any warnings pop up in the terminal
[03:19] <lafrancis> joshumax, me neither till you said try that command
[03:19] <joshumax> lafrancis: What came up as a result?
[03:19] <lafrancis> Unhandled error message: Error when getting information for file '/home/lafrancis/self-check': No such file or directory
[03:20] <Rastart> with nautilus command it doesn't say nothing.it opens the home folder. with nautilus -c command it says:
[03:20] <Rastart> !paste
[03:20] <fengshaun> well, this is annoying, the mouse doesn't move now!
[03:21] <PushNPull> give it some cheese
[03:21] <Rastart> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10317877/
[03:21] <Rastart> THIS.
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | PushNPull,
[03:21] <Dayofswords> joshumax: thanks for the help, I managed to enable compression on a btrfs disk
[03:21] <lafrancis> PushNPull, here some guda
[03:21] <joshumax> Dayofswords: sure thing
[03:21] <PushNPull> thx
[03:21] <OerHeks> Rastart, that looks oke.
[03:22] <lafrancis> I just installed last night why cant i use updater
[03:22] <joshumax> Rastart: well the self-tesk came up okay, and I wouldn't worry about that lafrancis
[03:22] <Hulio> PushNPull, i prefer up and down ...more feeling
[03:22] <OerHeks> lafrancis, what error do you get? use paste.ubuntu.com for the output please
[03:22] <PushNPull> i just got this nick cause im studying HACK language
[03:23] <lafrancis> joshumax, my pc isnt running all that great with a fresh install so i am worried.. ran better with previous zorin os
[03:23] <joshumax> lafrancis: well, now's never a better time to read up on apt and unattended-upgrades *awkward smile*
[03:23] <joshumax> Have you tried elementary OS?
[03:23] <Rastart> so if it is all ok why i have this issue and other people don't? :(
[03:23] <PushNPull> you push them FB and pull all privetedetails
[03:24] <Rastart> well not that i want other people to have that issue too..but i would like to not have that issue.
[03:24] <joshumax> Rastart: I've had many a rare bug in my day...it's not fun
[03:24] <Rastart> :(
[03:24] <Hulio> PushNPull, I said i prefer UP and Down.....i love being up and down
[03:24]  * PushNPull handles Rastart a tissue
[03:24] <OerHeks> PushNPull, please move to ##ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat, this is ubuntu support only
[03:24] <Hulio> PushNPull, that is the only way to get it deep inside
[03:24] <joshumax> There's a lot of things you can do, but frankly it's rather time-consuming
[03:24] <lafrancis> so there is no way to fix my updater ?
[03:24] <joshumax> why not just use nemo or PCManFM
[03:24] <OerHeks> lafrancis, what error do you get? use paste.ubuntu.com for the output please
[03:25] <joshumax> lafrancis: No, but there's just a lot of points of failure
[03:25] <lafrancis> how do if i know all my drivers are correct
[03:25] <Hulio> cya
[03:25] <joshumax> OerHeks: It's not exactly an error
[03:25] <lafrancis> OerHeks, i dont get a error i just get a car and no window on my updater
[03:25] <lafrancis> bar not car
[03:26] <joshumax> what does running update-manager from the console show?
[03:26] <OerHeks> lafrancis, try to run updates from terminal, might solve things: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:27] <joshumax> OerHeks: lafrancis wants update-manager
[03:27] <lafrancis> OerHeks, thanks its d/ling now
[03:27] <joshumax> although it *could* be a faulty upgrade that did it
[03:27] <PushNPull> #ubuntu-social
[03:27] <OerHeks> joshumax, yes i know
[03:28] <lafrancis> I installed without internet updates because it kept failing i think it was my video card i removed and seemed to install
[03:30] <Rastart> hey ubuntu people. what's your opinion about nemo file manager? anyone tryied it? do you know other file managers you can suggest me to try? :P
[03:30] <jamesd_> file manager i thought what bash/find/du/df was for.
[03:31] <Rastart> dodge approach attempt.
[03:31] <joshumax> don't forget midnight commander and ls!
[03:32] <jamesd_> joshumax: yes that is my fall back... when i am dealing with files with spaces and funky charaters
[03:32] <lafrancis> OerHeks, and joshumax  thanks atleast im up to date now
[03:33] <lafrancis> Unhandled error message: Error when getting information for file '/home/lafrancis/self-check': No such file or director what does this mean
[03:34] <joshumax> where did you see it?
[03:34] <lafrancis> joshumax, just popped on scren
[03:34] <joshumax> never seen that one before...
[03:34] <Rastart> joshumax what is the midnight commander about?
[03:35] <joshumax> lafrancis: if it annoys you too much just `touch ~/self-check` and back away slowly
[03:35] <joshumax> Rastart: best file manager on earth
[03:35] <lafrancis> joshumax, whats that looks scary
[03:36] <Rastart> DAMN IT SOLVED BY ITSELF.
[03:36] <Rastart> it's incredible.
[03:36] <Rastart> my lucky day.
[03:36] <Rastart> i had that issue for months.
[03:36] <Rastart> and it solved by itself.
[03:36] <joshumax> Okay then
[03:36] <Rastart> UBUNTU = MAGIC.
[03:37] <joshumax> ehm...congrats
[03:37] <lafrancis> magic ? i get nothing but problems :(
[03:37] <Rastart> problems are cool when you about to solve them.
[03:37] <Rastart> lol
[03:38] <Rastart> and when you have friends.
[03:38] <Loshki> I like problems best just after I solve them, in general..
[03:38] <lafrancis> Rastart, better when they dont happen
[03:38] <Rastart> that help you solve your problems
[03:38] <Rastart> like the ubuntu community i really appreciate you guys.
[03:39] <joshumax> here's to hoping it never happens again
[03:39] <lafrancis> when i think about you i touch my self lol
[03:39] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | lafrancis
[03:39] <faraim> how do i make traceroute display hostnames instead of just IP addresses
[03:39] <joshumax> lafrancis: I don't know how but you just ruined coreutils for me
[03:39] <Rastart> lafrancis i like when they happen too so i can learn new things but when they happen in the wrong moment it is really terrible.
[03:40] <lafrancis> joshumax, sorry was just a song. fit in the criteria
[03:40] <nobody___> touch /home/bob.txt
[03:40] <nobody___> nope, ubottu is smarter than that.
[03:41] <OerHeks> great, Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS released with Kernel 3.16
[03:42] <joshumax> for x in `ls /boot/vmlinu*`; do rm $x; touch $x; done
[03:42] <llamapalooza> Hello?
[03:43] <lafrancis> hi
[03:43] <joshumax> greetings earthling
[03:43] <llamapalooza> :)
[03:43] <Rastart> hello llamapalooza :D
[03:43] <lafrancis> welcome to smell
[03:43] <KramerZ> Hi.
[03:43] <llamapalooza> Haha
[03:43] <Rastart> hello KramerZ
[03:44] <KramerZ> How can I securely erase a partition using an ubuntu live CD?
[03:44] <arshavin> I am using latest nvidia driver on ubuntu 14.10,the binary which I installed manually,however,alsmost all windows including browser appear choppy at times
[03:44] <Rastart> oh and that suddenly became off-topic chat, but still cool.
[03:44] <Rastart> lol
[03:44] <joshumax> what is this script I made I dont even... for x in `ls /boot/vmlinu*`; do echo $x lol wat; done
[03:44] <SchrodingersScat> joshumax: you shouldn't use ls to fill a list
[03:44] <lafrancis> KramerZ, a hammer
[03:44] <joshumax> Darn right I shouldn't
[03:44] <lafrancis> j/k
[03:44] <nobody___> KramerZ: man shred
[03:44] <KramerZ> I have a drive with 2 partitions, a 300GB partition and 20GB one which is a recovery partition.
[03:45] <joshumax> I'm just terribly bored waiting
[03:45] <arshavin> How can I fix the choppiness,things worked better on arch
[03:45] <OerHeks> KramerZ, with Gparted, available on the live session
[03:45] <KramerZ> haha, it's just a computer I've sold.
[03:45] <lafrancis> arshavin, what card you running ?
[03:45] <arshavin> nvidia 310m
[03:46] <arshavin> lafrancis: I am using nvidia driver 340.2
[03:46] <SchrodingersScat> joshumax: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
[03:46] <Rastart> R.Stallman hates invidia. i think that man is right.
[03:46] <lafrancis> arshavin, ive been having dame problem i had to use different driver
[03:46] <OerHeks> Rastart, stop the funny comments please
[03:47] <KramerZ> So how do I use Gparted to securely erase?
[03:47] <joshumax> SchrodingersScat: You do realize that script was *supposed* to be utter garbage, right?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> KramerZ, select partition.  erase.  done
[03:47] <lafrancis> How do i erase my wife ?
[03:47] <SchrodingersScat> joshumax: I see what you're doing, but you still shouldn't use ls.
[03:47] <arshavin> lafrancis: yeah,I was thinking abt the same thing,maybe one from their repo
[03:48] <arshavin> lafrancis: lol
[03:48] <joshumax> I know, it's literally the first thing yelled at people
[03:48] <lafrancis> arshavin, i had to use one of the non priorty drivers or whtever they call them
[03:49] <jimmio> If I uninstall preinstalled apps.. it also removes lubuntu-desktop. Is this safe?
[03:49] <joshumax> But there's always *someone* who actually takes it seriously
[03:49] <Rastart> ok thank you guys for the help. you're really cool. well........time for me to go..see you around.
[03:49] <arshavin> lafrancis: nouveau
[03:49] <OerHeks> jimmio, some apps are part of the desktop, so if you encounter this, do not uninstall.
[03:50] <Bashing-om> arshavin: 310m - 'm' as in optimus, where Intel is the integrated graphics driver ? -> lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit .
[03:50] <lafrancis> arshavin, i had to go through each driver offered by ubuntu untill it worked
[03:50] <jimmio> I'm uninstalling abiword after installing Libreoffice.. I'm just worried about it removing the lubuntu-desktop metapackage
[03:50] <arshavin> lafrancis: I have used ubuntu before,but I was on antergos for a long time,now have switched back,cos I can't keep up with updates,but nvidia worked well last time I used ubuntu
[03:51] <lafrancis> arshavin, i really never got my card perfect :(
[03:52] <lafrancis> arshavin, i just to work ok never fit my tv correct either
[03:52] <arshavin> lafrancis: on the contrary,it has always worked so well for me,particularly on arch based diatros
[03:52] <joshumax> Well since my original question never actually got answered and it's _that_ time of night...I'm heading off
[03:53] <joshumax> bye
[03:53] <KramerZ> Can I use the command dd if=/dev/zero
[03:53] <lafrancis> arshavin, my card was older 128 bit
[03:53] <KramerZ> on just one partition
[03:53] <OerHeks> KramerZ, why the hard way, gparted does that for you
[03:54] <arshavin> lafrancis:oh,infact mine is gt 410m not 310
[03:54] <x3n0n> I am new to IRC, how should I use this? Any tutorial links?
[03:55] <OerHeks> !guidelines
[03:55] <lafrancis> ubuntu killing me nothing works ahhh
[03:55] <Rastart> x3n0n it depends on what IRC client you use.
[03:56] <faraim> how do i make traceroute display hostnames instead of just IP addresses
[03:56] <Rastart> there are many.
[03:56] <cfhowlett> x3n0n, tutorial:  https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[03:56] <x3n0n> Rastart I am using XChat
[03:56] <lafrancis> badgers we dont need no stinking badgers
[03:56] <OerHeks> faraim,traceroute only shows ip's AFAIK. no option for that
[03:56] <cfhowlett> x3n0n, xchat is no longer developed.  replaced by hexchat.  you might wish to install that.
[03:56] <Rastart> ok..here is your link: http://xchat.org/docs/
[03:57] <x3n0n> cfhowlett thanks, will do that
[03:59] <lafrancis> and peer to peer easier then filezilla ?
[04:00] <lafrancis> like frostwire
[04:02] <daddylongStroke> How do i install frostwire
[04:08] <rhapsody> Hello Community, is anyone interested in helping me with a question?
[04:08] <Elimin8er> hmm.
[04:09] <Rastart> daddylongStroke: not in official repository, download at your own risk..btw this is official site download link:http://www.frostwire.com/download/
[04:09] <Rastart> ask, do not ask to ask.
[04:10] <Elimin8er> I guess its a little late on my question..\
[04:10] <Rastart> i suggest you transmission btw as a torrent client
[04:10] <Rastart> works really good.
[04:10] <rhapsody> fair enough, just wanted to know who to direct it to.  I am booted to a Ubuntu 14.04 install now which is my main machine.  I am trying to install a complete install to an external usb hard drive.  Is there some way I can do this without booting to a liveusb/livecd?
[04:10] <rhapsody> can I somehow access an installer in my current instance and just run through the install that way?
[04:10] <KramerZ> OerHeks: does Gparted do secure erase though?
[04:11] <cfhowlett> rhapsody, why not use the normal method?
[04:12] <rhapsody> cfhowlett, my machine bios is tempermental when booting from liveusbs for some reason and I do not have any blank media to burn a new image
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !install | rhapsody, makes sense.  see the install alternatives.
[04:12] <rhapsody> cfhowlett, each time I attempt to boot to the media, it hangs or states it cannot boot.  I am sick of playing with MBR/GPT settings and UEFI is giving me a headache
[04:13] <Rastart> hope you'll get your answer rhapsody, btw i really have to go see you ubuntu people.
[04:13] <rhapsody> ubottu, cfhowlett, Thank you I will start there.  You should check us out
[04:14] <rhapsody> ubottu, Understood!
[04:14] <cfhowlett> rhapsody,  happy2help!
[04:30] <nuke1989> hi, i have compiled something on a server and works good. When i tried to run the binary at another server i am getting error while loading shared libraries: libjansson.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:30] <nuke1989> any ideas?
[04:30] <EriC^^> !find libjansson.so
[04:31] <EriC^^> nuke1989: you need to install one of those packages probably
[04:32] <EriC^^> nuke1989: install libjansson4
[04:32] <nuke1989> EriC^^, the thing is i cant do that. So is it possible to compile it somehow so that it doesnt need it?
[04:32] <EriC^^> i have no idea
[04:33] <EriC^^> you could install the library somewhere else and point your program to its location
[04:33] <EriC^^> !info libjansson4
[04:35] <nuke1989> hmmm
[04:44] <marky_> hi there !. I would like to ask some help
[04:44] <skunix> hey, I plugged these headsets in to my front panel audio jack. Sound works but for some reason the microphone doesn't show up in my sound settings. The strange thing is when I launch audacity it is able to record from my mic.
[04:44] <skunix> so why can't my sound settings see it?
[05:00] <jkbbwr> Okay now im just angry
[05:00] <jkbbwr> Ubuntu has managed to blow my entire boot sector away in a weird way
[05:00] <jkbbwr> My machine doesn't recognise any bootable medium, but when I liveboot ubuntu form a usb i can mount the disk
[05:01] <jkbbwr> I ran boot-repair and that said it fixed something
[05:01] <jkbbwr> but still nothing to boot
[05:04] <jkbbwr> Is anyone here?
[05:10] <NegativeFlare> jkbbwr: Yes
[05:10] <NegativeFlare> jkbbwr: Have you tried reinstalling Grub?
[05:14] <jkbbwr> NegativeFlare: I tried but its never working, Im gonna flash the drive and install something else
[05:14] <jkbbwr> ubuntu has angered me lately
[05:14] <jkbbwr> Maybe arch will work this time
[05:14]  * Do-It Hola a todos!
[05:16] <NegativeFlare> jkbbwr: Good luck, arch is terribly hard to install imo
[05:17] <jkbbwr> NegativeFlare: One of these days im gonna sit down and work through LFS
[05:17] <cjenkin2> jkbbwr, If you want to try a user-friendly Arch, you could try Manjaro
[05:17] <jkbbwr> cjenkin2: I just want a bare damn linux install hah
[05:23] <ki7mt> jkbbwr, LFS if a good learning tool.
[05:28] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: is it a uefi machine?
[05:40] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: I don't even know these days
[05:40] <jkbbwr> probably?
[05:40] <EriC^^> are you in the live usb right now
[05:40] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: is it a hp or toshiba laptop?
[05:40] <jkbbwr> custom made laptop
[05:42] <EriC^^> ok
[05:43] <jkbbwr> I *think* it has
[05:43] <EriC^^> ok check the bios for uefi
[05:43] <EriC^^> or boot a live usb
[05:44] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: Im installing arch
[05:44] <EriC^^> ok
[05:45] <EriC^^> you kind of need to know if you have uefi
[05:45] <EriC^^> cause you'll be manualy creating the partitions with arch
[05:50] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: ^
[05:53] <kenperkins> what would "*/5 *   * * *" mean in crontab
[05:53] <kenperkins> specifically the /5
[05:53] <Ben64> every 5
[05:54] <kenperkins> so that's every 5m?
[05:54] <rww> yes\
[05:54] <kenperkins> ty
[05:56] <ki7mt> kenperkins, there's lots of on-line cron calculators for basic setups, example: http://www.csgnetwork.com/crongen.html
[05:56] <kenperkins> thanks, i touch cron so rarely it always gets purged out of short term memory
[05:56] <kenperkins> and never gets committed to long term :D
[05:57] <ki7mt> Here's another one, a bit nicer: http://www.crontab-generator.org/
[05:57] <rww> I try to stick with @hourly, @daily, etc.
[05:57] <rww> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron does a pretty good job for more complicated stuff.
[05:58] <ki7mt> I can't ever remember the things either, I always have to go read first.
[05:58] <kenperkins> thanks for not making me feel stupid ki7mt
[05:58] <kenperkins> :)
[06:01] <Dragony> alriht this is my issue
[06:02] <Dragony> i need to use user cj to use ftp
[06:02] <Dragony> i cant use cj to use ftp becuse he does not have privlages
[06:02] <Dragony> how do i give user cj to allow him to use ssh
[06:03] <ki7mt> Dragony, a simple way, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and add cj
[06:04] <Dragony> how do i do that cant find the line to edit
[06:04] <ki7mt> in sshd_config: AllowUsers cj
[06:05] <ki7mt> then sudo service ssh reload
[06:05] <Dragony> this is CentOS :3
[06:06] <ki7mt> This Ubuntu :-) .. but nevertheless, should be similar
[06:07] <Dragony> this is confusing
[06:08] <johnzorn> Anyone know of some kind of virus/spamware that affects only the browsers by creating an invisible overlay ontop of the page. It contains javascript so when you click anywhere on the page it opens an ad in a new tab?
[06:08] <ki7mt> Dragony, a second, and probably more secure is, add the users rsa/dsa key to the servers auth keys
[06:09] <Ben64> Dragony: #centos
[06:18] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: fuck uefi
[06:18] <jkbbwr> nothings damn booting
[06:19] <EriC^^> press esc and see if you can get a boot options menu
[06:20] <jkbbwr> Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert bootable meida
[06:20] <canutet> hola
[06:20] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: :(
[06:20] <canutet> barato
[06:20] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: check the bios, make sure secure boot is turned off
[06:20] <jkbbwr> its off
[06:21] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: I wish I could wipe the entire disk blank and start fresh
[06:21] <jkbbwr> this is annoying me
[06:21] <EriC^^> see if you can get that boot menu options
[06:21] <jkbbwr> The only bootable option is ipv4 and ipv6
[06:21] <EriC^^> uefi isn't hard or anything, you could convert to bios if you wnat
[06:22] <jkbbwr> idk what I want
[06:22] <jkbbwr> im just frustrated with linux
[06:22] <EriC^^> did you create an efi partition? are you using a gpt partition table?
[06:22] <jkbbwr> I think its a gpt partition table
[06:22] <jkbbwr> but idk
[06:22] <jkbbwr> Let me install the gparted disk I have
[06:22] <jkbbwr> wipe the drive and start again
[06:23] <EriC^^> ok
[06:23] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: when I get into gparted I might need to ask your advice for getting this bastard setup
[06:23] <EriC^^> ok
[06:24] <EriC^^> you can just use the live usb
[06:24] <EriC^^> it has gparted in it
[06:24] <jkbbwr> I only have one usb stick I have a gparted live usb
[06:25] <EriC^^> make an ubuntu live usb
[06:25] <EriC^^> and boot it, you can check some stuff and get it installed
[06:25] <jkbbwr> I don't I have gparted right infront of me right now
[06:26] <jkbbwr> I have /dev/sda2 103gb ext4 and /dev/sda1 swap
[06:26] <canutet> hola
[06:26] <canutet> todomentira.es
[06:27] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: ok, gpt partition table?
[06:27] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: seems so, but I checked the flags and boot + esp were off
[06:27] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: I tick those right?
[06:28] <EriC^^> just delete the partitions
[06:28] <jkbbwr> oh ok
[06:28] <jkbbwr> The entire disk is just empty
[06:28] <EriC^^> fwiw i think you didn't follow the guide in arch's wiki for uefi
[06:29] <EriC^^> cause you need to create an efi partition for it to work
[06:29] <jkbbwr> I dont understand partitions
[06:29] <jkbbwr> I dont want to understand partitions
[06:29] <jkbbwr> I just want it to work
[06:29] <EriC^^> ok, boot an ubuntu live usb
[06:29] <jkbbwr> Why do you keep telling me to do that?
[06:29] <jkbbwr> I don't want to install ubuntu anymore
[06:30] <EriC^^> ok
[06:30] <jkbbwr> I just want a bootable thing to install arch into
[06:30] <EriC^^> well anything else is off topic here
[06:30] <jkbbwr> Oh come on
[06:30] <EriC^^> arch is bootable..
[06:30] <jkbbwr> I know arch is bootable
[06:30] <jkbbwr> I cannot install arch to my hd and then boot it
[06:31] <Flannel> jkbbwr: You don't need to prepare the disk or the computer at all, just boot the arch install media, and you'll be able to install it.
[06:31] <jkbbwr> Flannel: Arch expects you to partition the disk yourself
[06:31] <jkbbwr> I dont know how to do that
[06:31] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: because you didn't create an efi partition
[06:31] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: arch wiki
[06:31] <jkbbwr> HOW
[06:31] <EriC^^> sudo cgdisk
[06:32] <EriC^^> ( without the sudo )
[06:32] <canutet> oexport.com
[06:32] <jkbbwr> Do I put partitions on the disk before or after cgdisk
[06:33] <EriC^^> cgdisk has a nice ncurses menu
[06:33] <EriC^^> cgdisk /dev/sda
[06:33] <Flannel> jkbbwr: I'm sure the Arch installation media gives you the capability to format/partition during the install.  We, however, have no idea what instruments it gives you.  However, there are some tutorials here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning  You'll want the "single root partition", that'll work just fine for you.
[06:33] <RustyShackleford> is there a ppa for adobe reader?
[06:33] <EriC^^> get your hd first with lsblk
[06:33] <RustyShackleford> i cannot stand any of the default pdf readers
[06:34] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: Could not load any partitions from sda aborting!
[06:34] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: cgdisk /dev/sda said that?
[06:34] <jkbbwr> yes
[06:34] <EriC^^> type gdisk /dev/sda
[06:35] <EriC^^> or gdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:35] <jkbbwr> Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT;
[06:36] <EriC^^> try to create a new fresh partition table
[06:36] <kurt_773> sup nerds
[06:37] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: gdisk /dev/sda , then press o, then w
[06:38] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: Thats done
[06:38] <EriC^^> ok, try cgdisk /dev/sda again
[06:38] <jkbbwr> ok
[06:38] <jkbbwr> cgdisk is up
[06:38] <jkbbwr> 111.8gb worth of free space
[06:38] <EriC^^> ok, create a 300mb efi partition with ef00 as the hex code
[06:38] <jkbbwr> .
[06:38] <EriC^^> fat32
[06:39] <jkbbwr> what number for first sector
[06:39] <jkbbwr> 34?
[06:39] <EriC^^> just press enter
[06:40] <jkbbwr> and name it?
[06:40] <EriC^^> EFI partition or something
[06:40] <jkbbwr> 300 mb efi system efi
[06:40] <EriC^^>  ok
[06:40] <jkbbwr> write option?
[06:40] <EriC^^> not yet
[06:41] <jkbbwr> okay
[06:41] <EriC^^> make the swap partition
[06:41] <jkbbwr> whats the right size for swap
[06:41] <jkbbwr> 8g?
[06:41] <EriC^^> you can go without it if you want
[06:41] <EriC^^> usually it's as big as your ram cause it's needed for hibernation
[06:42] <jkbbwr> so 8g.
[06:42] <kurt_773> is ubuntu a botnet
[06:42] <EriC^^> if you dont want hibernation or have special needs for it you can go without it
[06:42] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: ok
[06:42] <jkbbwr> what hex code do I use for swap
[06:42] <EriC^^> press L to get a list of the codes
[06:42] <jkbbwr> 8200
[06:42] <jkbbwr> Right!
[06:43] <jkbbwr> Now have swap
[06:43] <EriC^^> ok, now create an linux partition with the rest of the space
[06:43] <jkbbwr> 103.5 Gb Linux filesystem
[06:44] <EriC^^> ok, hexcode should be 8300
[06:44] <jkbbwr> yes
[06:44] <EriC^^> efi partition is 300 right? you used 300M for the size?
[06:44] <jkbbwr> 300,0MB
[06:44] <EriC^^> ok
[06:44] <EriC^^> now write it
[06:44] <jkbbwr> Sucess
[06:45] <EriC^^> should mention the kernel isn't aware of the changes yet or something
[06:45] <jkbbwr> cgdisk said nothing
[06:45] <EriC^^> ok nevermind then
[06:45] <morne> the kernel is crucial
[06:46] <EriC^^> ok you should be ok, follow the guide on the wiki and you should be set
[06:46] <morne> its important that you update the ram
[06:46] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: Let me reboot into arch installer and Ill see
[06:47] <kurt_773> is linux hard to install
[06:47] <kurt_773> SOrry
[06:47] <kurt_773> I mean arch
[06:47] <EriC^^> kurt_773: no
[06:49] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: we need to format them
[06:49] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: hold on not booted in yet
[06:50] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: ok when you're booted in try ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[06:51] <jkbbwr> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root - Feb 6 02:59 /sys/firmware/efi/
[06:51] <jkbbwr> (im at an arch shell)
[06:52] <EriC^^> ok good, you're booted in uefi
[06:52] <jkbbwr> (on the usb that has arch)
[06:52] <EriC^^> type lsblk and get the partition names
[06:52] <EriC^^> for the linux partition and the efi
[06:53] <jkbbwr> sdb1 is the efi, sdb2 is swap and sdb3 is linux
[06:53] <EriC^^> ok, type mkfs.fat -F 32 /dev/sdb1
[06:53] <jkbbwr> fatted
[06:53] <EriC^^> then mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb3
[06:54] <jkbbwr> discarding a ton of blocks
[06:54] <jkbbwr> done
[06:54] <EriC^^> ok
[06:55] <EriC^^> you should follow the guide now and set the keyboard layout and whatnot
[06:55] <MichaelHabib> hi, im having problem with persistent Ubuntu Live USB . I have Grub2 installed on the USB and I CAN boot to the Ubuntu and Kubuntu ISO's but non of them can detect the casper-rw file in the root of the USB (Will attach more info in a sec)
[06:55] <jkbbwr> do I do the make swap steps
[06:55] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: not now
[06:56] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: you can type mkswap /dev/sdb2
[06:56] <EriC^^> and later add it to your fstab
[06:56] <jkbbwr> uk is missing from the list
[06:56] <MichaelHabib> http://pastebin.com/bMz834a2
[07:05] <willem> Hey, resizing chrome is really choppy for me. I'm running Ubuntu 14.10 Unity. I have an nvidia video card with hardware acceleration enabled. Does anybody have the same problems?
[07:05] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: now I do the gummiboot stuff
[07:05] <jkbbwr> Right?
[07:10] <Apachez> willem: check additional drivers if you have an update available or such?
[07:11] <MichaelHabib> Hi again, Stuck with Live USB unable to find persistent file, I have re-rechecked the rile locaion and all settings based on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence  (Using a loopback file + ISO)
[07:11] <MichaelHabib> NOte that the ISO does boot but never detects the casper-rw file
[07:11] <kurt_773> I know you guys aren't a tech support but you could you answer a question for me? I have an SD in my laptop and I don't know how to make linux install files to it instead of my ssd
[07:12] <kurt_773> It is a chromebook so the ssd is only 16gb
[07:12] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: i dont think gummiboot is needed
[07:13] <MichaelHabib> kurt_773: I use Kubuntu and with 15GB I ran out of disk space ! I have added few programs and updates
[07:13] <jkbbwr> grub?
[07:13] <MichaelHabib> kurt_773: but maybe Grub2 + LiveBoot will do the trick ?
[07:13] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: install the grub-efi-amd64-signed package ( or whatever it's called in arch's repo ) and use the efi boot manager your laptop has
[07:13] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: that's one of the last steps after you install everything
[07:14] <kurt_773> I'm not yet out of disk space I just want to make it so when I download programs from terminal they go the sd rather than the laptops internal ssd
[07:15] <MichaelHabib> Hi EriC^^  you seem to know alot about linux, if you have exp with LiveUSB boot + Persistent (casper-rw) file  , I have few questions for you (check above or we can have a quick 1-1 chat please )
[07:15] <MichaelHabib> TY :)
[07:15] <jkbbwr> OOOH
[07:16] <jkbbwr> alloc magic is broken at 0xb4b16dc0
[07:16] <kurt_773> Does anyone know about how to do that? I'm sorry I'm new to linux and to IRC
[07:16] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: ^
[07:17] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: no such partition :/
[07:17] <MichaelHabib> kurt_773:  the best option is  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving   move home / user directories to the SD ?
[07:17] <EriC^^> MichaelHabib: sorry, don't know much about live usb's with persistence
[07:17] <vahid-yousefian> hi everyone
[07:17] <kurt_773> Alright I will look into it
[07:17] <kurt_773> Thank you much
[07:18] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: So close yet so far :(
[07:18] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: where do you get that error?
[07:18] <jkbbwr> Gets to grub, hit boot to arch
[07:18] <jkbbwr> Error no such device <guid>
[07:18] <jkbbwr> Then error no such partition
[07:19] <EriC^^> boot the arch install again, mount /dev/sda3 /mnt , then mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[07:21] <deepu143> how to fix xclock display in usermode i tried a lot to fix but not able to open the clock in usermode (No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0)
[07:21] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: did you genfstab and make the initrd and whatnot?
[07:21] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: I think I fucked up the initrd
[07:22] <EriC^^> mount those partitions
[07:22] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: Just getting there
[07:22] <EriC^^> then type for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /run /proc; do mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[07:23] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: /mnt/boot/efi doesn't exist
[07:23] <jkbbwr> Should I mkdir the /mnt/boot/efi
[07:23] <EriC^^> type ls /mnt is the filesystem there?
[07:24] <jkbbwr> the filesys is there
[07:24] <jkbbwr> cd boot and I have initramfs-linux.img
[07:24] <EriC^^> ok type mkdir /mnt/boot/efi
[07:24] <willem> Apachez: Everything is fully up to date, I'm not experiencing the choppy resizing with Firefox either, only with Chrome.
[07:24] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: all mounted
[07:25] <EriC^^> ok, type chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[07:25] <jkbbwr> in
[07:25] <EriC^^> you mount binded /dev ..etc. right?
[07:25] <jkbbwr> mount binded /dev?
[07:25] <EriC^^> the for i .... done command
[07:25] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: before or after chroot
[07:25] <EriC^^> before
[07:26] <EriC^^> you can type exit and mount them
[07:26] <jkbbwr> Cant chroot now
[07:27] <jkbbwr> proc is already mounted error failed to setup api filesystem in chroot /mnt
[07:28] <JinBaba> Hi why cant I find hda in my /dev
[07:28] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: type umount /mnt/proc
[07:29] <k1l_> JinBaba: its called sda since some time
[07:29] <EriC^^> JinBaba: check /var/log/kern.log or remove the hd and plug it back in and check dmesg
[07:29] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: i cant umount /mnt/dev as its busy but i cant chroot because its arleady mounted
[07:29] <jkbbwr> catch 22
[07:30] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: try to umount /mnt/sys
[07:30] <JinBaba> @k1l_ even sda directory isn't there
[07:30] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: unmounted its only /mnt/dev left mounted but i cant chroot with it mounted
[07:30] <EriC^^> jkbbwr: did you type mount -B or just mount?
[07:30] <JinBaba> my hdd is working fine, I just want to see it
[07:30] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: mount -B
[07:31] <k1l_> JinBaba: show a "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin
[07:31] <Flannel> jkbbwr, EriC^^: Can you guys take this to #archlinux?  I think at this point it's well within the "how do I install arch" realm, and there may be other people who can help.
[07:31] <jkbbwr> EriC^^: If you dont mind, join #helpjkbbwr
[07:32] <RustyShackleford> why is ubuntu mono so tiny?
[07:32] <RustyShackleford> maybe i'm just blind, but I use size 13
[07:32] <olspookishmagus> hello, does ubuntu come with anything (GUI preferably) to parse smartctl output?
[07:32] <olspookishmagus> RustyShackleford: full hinting on?
[07:34] <olspookishmagus> well I thought I couldn't get: gsmartcontrol to appear after doing a: # apt-cache search --names-only smart
[07:34] <JinBaba> @k1l_ https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8822499
[07:34] <Thunderguy> I can't get Ubuntu to recognize my hard drive... it hung on installing a partition table, but now won't read anything from it, anyone have experience with disk drives?
[07:35] <EriC^^> Flannel: ok
[07:35] <olspookishmagus> well I guess I should check whether the universe repository
[07:35] <olspookishmagus> is enabled
[07:36] <JinBaba> @k1l_ output says its in /dev but I don't see it there
[07:36] <k1l_> JinBaba: encrypted lvm?
[07:37] <k1l_> JinBaba: i am not familiar with that
[07:40] <JinBaba> Yes you are right, I had encrypted my hdd during installation
[07:40] <JinBaba> @k1l_
[07:41] <JinBaba> Since I'm logged in, isn't my hdd supposed to be decrypted right now, @k1l_ ?
[07:42] <keevitaja> hi, can i connect to windows machine using remote desktop? and does windows support multiple sessions? like when one person is using already this computer i connect to it and have my own screen
[07:43] <Thunderguy> Is this bad? "fdisk: unable to read /dev/sda: Input/output error"
[07:43] <Ben64> Thunderguy: its not good
[07:43] <JinBaba> lol
[07:43] <Thunderguy> It's a brand new disk... it read it one time, then on a reboot, it won't read
[07:44] <jamesd_> unless you have ide disks
[07:44] <Thunderguy> It's actually the top end western digital 'Purple' =/ I knew I should have got 'Green'
[07:45] <geirha> Could be a faulty cable
[07:45] <jamesd_> eewww green..
[07:46] <Thunderguy> I got hdparm working though, its the only utility that reads it... I just am not hdparm savvy
[07:48] <Thunderguy> I'm theorizing that I tripped a security feature in Western Digital's new models.... I just don't know of any tho
[07:55] <Thunderguy> Hey, Do SATA drives need jumpers?
[07:55] <Beankylla> Thunderguy: no
[07:56] <Thunderguy> k
[07:57] <Thunderguy> It reads my second sata, but that was working before tho =/
[07:58] <Thunderguy> Ill try switching the wires.....
[08:02] <geirha> A sata drive may need a jumper if you have an old motherboard
[08:03] <geirha> I had to do that once, put a jumper on a SATA drive to slow it down to a speed the motherboard could handle
[08:03] <Thunderguy> Welp, the cable is fine, it has power... yikes
[08:04] <Thunderguy> geirha: were the symptoms that the drive wouldnt work at all without the speed being slow? i/o error?
[08:05] <Beankylla> Thunderguy: I would rather check cable connections
[08:06] <Beankylla> I had I/O errors and ended up reinstalling
[08:06] <geirha> Thunderguy: I don't remember exactly. I had an external hdd closure for it at first, which connected to the machine with usb, and it worked just fine, but when I connected it via sata, it stopped working.
[08:06] <Beankylla> when I should just have plugged the cable properly
[08:07] <rukai> When I use i3 nm-applet does not display the list of avaiable networks. Any ideas, or paths to travel down?
[08:07] <geirha> The motherboard only supported SATA I, while the drive was SATA II iirc
[08:08] <Thunderguy> Beankylla: I did, I switched the cable to the other hard disk, and now booted the OS on that disk =/, while the latter cable is still showing io error
[08:10] <Thunderguy> I'm downloading the Data sheet on my mobo now
[08:17] <Thunderguy> Hmm WD has a DOS utility that is their 'cure all' for hard disk problems....
[08:17] <strehi_> git <IP_ADDRESS>.5 => server clients= >1.9.1
[08:17] <strehi_> can I expect problems?
[08:18] <strehi_> sorry guys... wrong channel
[08:30] <suman> I have installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTE, I need to know if I can install My SQL and Apache Tomcat
[08:35] <Beankylla> suman: yes you can
[08:40] <OpenTokix> suman: yes
[08:43] <onla> Is it possible to get power consumption information with desktop PC like you can see here from the screenshot of laptop? This app shows for me only the "Processor" tab: http://i.stack.imgur.com/SdptF.png
[08:45] <suman> Yes you can get it
[08:45] <suman> onla
[08:46] <onla> with some other app? Or maybe I don't have the sensors?
[08:47] <hateball> a typical desktop PC doesnt have any sensors for that. some servers do
[08:53] <White_Cat> hello
[08:53] <White_Cat> EriC^^ you here?
[08:56] <onla> I just installed powertop and its tunables tab all of devices have "bad" setting. If I toggled them to good, I wonder if everything would still work normally.
[08:59] <demahum> I am creating new partition table for Ubuntu. I want to have three partitions. One for Ubuntu, one for another OS and one for swap. Which file system should I use for Ubuntu partition and which mount point?
[09:00] <Beankylla> ext4 for ubuntu
[09:00] <demahum> Beankylla: Mount point?
[09:00] <Beankylla> what do you mean mount point?
[09:00] <Beankylla> swap has no mount point
[09:00] <Beankylla> and then the other OS
[09:00] <Beankylla> depends if you want to access it from ubuntu
[09:00] <Beankylla> if yes put it somewhere convenient to you
[09:01] <demahum> Beankylla: I am creating a partition for Ubuntu. I have to choose file system (I assumed ext4) and mount point.
[09:01] <demahum> Beankylla: I have options like...
[09:01] <Beankylla> the thing is you probably won't want to access the root of the partition
[09:01] <Beankylla> so mount point
[09:01] <demahum> Beankylla: /  or /boot or /home or...
[09:01] <Beankylla> leave it to default.../
[09:01] <demahum> Beankylla: Nothing was selected. :D
[09:02] <Beankylla> and /boot and /home is if you want to have a different partition for boot or home
[09:02] <demahum> Beankylla: I just want regular installation... Nothing else...
[09:02] <hateball> Having a separate /home is rather useful
[09:02] <demahum> hateball: So which to choose? :D
[09:02] <hateball> But it is not needed of course
[09:02] <Beankylla> so / is what you want
[09:02] <demahum> Beankylla: Good.
[09:03] <Beankylla> hateball = demahum?
[09:03] <demahum> Beankylla: What file system for swap?
[09:03] <Beankylla> swap
[09:03] <Beankylla> lol
[09:03] <demahum> Beankylla: hateball != demahum
[09:03] <demahum> Beankylla: oh... Sorry for silly question. I am laughing to myself right now. :)
[09:03] <hateball> I don't see how there could be any confusion
[09:03] <demahum> Me too. :D
[09:03] <Beankylla> demahum: there are some pretty nice tutorials of how to install ubuntu / dual boot online
[09:04] <Beankylla> hateball: my bad
[09:04] <hateball> :)
[09:04] <demahum> Beankylla: Will swap be logical or primary?
[09:05] <Beankylla> swap will be whatever it wants to be
[09:05] <Beankylla> read the difference online to see what you would rather
[09:05] <Beankylla> in the end if you're not touching the partitions after install, no difference
[09:05] <demahum> Beankylla: Thanks. :)
[09:06] <demahum> Beankylla: I will put primary. :D
[09:29] <marky__> hi people ! can someone help me please?
[09:30] <SCHAAP137> marky__: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:31] <marky__> thank you, ill go through that, one minute
[09:31] <Beankylla> lol
[09:32] <marky__> I'd like to ask about how to dual boot
[09:32] <marky__> after installing windows, and my dual boot menu being removed
[09:33] <hateball> !fixgrub | marky__
[09:34] <marky__> thank you so much ubottu, i'll go through that now
[09:38] <marky__> ubottu - i've read that, it requires me to download a large file in order to fix it, is there a simpler way?
[09:38] <marky__> can anyone chat with me regarding linux ?
[09:38] <marky__> which to choose..
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> marky__: what are you looking for exactly?
[09:40] <marky__> i was looking at how to fix my dual boot that disappeared after installing windows... (linux mint 17), now im wondering if i could discuss regarding how to fix and about alternative linux distros
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> marky__: mint isnt supported here mate
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> marky__: i can only suggest you install ubuntu and make your life more easy
[09:42] <tomodachi> marky__: you could try the super grub2 disk
[09:42] <tomodachi> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[09:42] <tomodachi> to "restore"
[09:42] <marky__> :) ok, ty, have you tried others that are for simple use of watching movies, browsing , only. that's colourful and has features? fedora or elemtary?
[09:42] <tomodachi> your boot loader windows options
[09:42] <NEI4U2K> hi, i want to know if i can change cairo dock's reveal sensitivity.
[09:42] <marky__> i'lll check that tomoachi, ty
[09:42] <tomodachi> marky__: you are asking in #ubuntu what distribution to use, the answer is ubuntu
[09:43] <marky__> xD sorry. what about lubuntu ?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> marky__: maybe the ##linux guides can discuss this for you
[09:43] <tomodachi> simple to use and colorful i would say ubuntu or fedora
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | marky__
[09:43] <marky__> ty tomodachi
[09:43] <marky__> is elementary a branch of ubuntu?
[09:44] <marky__> ty so much. i'll go do that.
[09:44] <marky__> you guys are great in making the transition from windows > linux
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> marky__: ubuntu is the most popular one, and has alot of drivers support
[09:45] <tomodachi> lotuspsychje: marky__ actually what "drivers" are supported is related to the kernel  not explicitly what flavour of distribution you use
[09:45] <tomodachi> if fedora and ubuntu both have kernel 3.31 they almost definitely have the "same" driver support
[09:46] <lg> he
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !nl | lg
[09:46] <lg> joo
[09:46] <lg> 8oi
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> 14.04.2 is out, with alot i fixes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.2
[09:49] <DrGrov> Hello. How did I change the login manager to KDM in 14.04? Installed kubuntu-desktop but like to get KDM as the login manager.
[09:49] <Guest8213> hi people! does anyone know how to disable a shortcut? i mean to set a shortcut to null value
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: i think you best nee to install kubuntu itself for that
[09:50] <hateball> DrGrov: lightdm-kde-greeter should do it I think
[09:50] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: I did have Xubuntu 14.04 as a base and now got kubuntu-desktop.
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> ah ok
[09:50] <hateball> KDM is not really used any more
[09:51] <DrGrov> hateball: Ok, that would explain my problems to find anything :)
[09:51] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: I remember it being something like "gksudo dpkg-..." ?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !info kdm
[09:51] <hateball> DrGrov: sudo apt-get install lightdm-kde-greeter
[09:52] <hateball> In 15.04 it'll be ssdm instead of lightdm, to make matters more fun :p
[09:52] <DrGrov> hateball: Ok, that would fix it. Does it prompt to choose which I want to use?
[09:52] <DrGrov> hateball: Or has the game completely changed from KDM, GDM and such?
[09:52] <hateball> DrGrov: It should ask you which greeter you want to use default. With lightdm you can change that later anyhow
[09:52] <hateball> DrGrov: it's just "themes"
[09:53] <DrGrov> hateball: Ok, I will get the lightdm-kde-greeter and fix it from there.
[09:53] <DrGrov> hateball: Apparently I have it installed already.
[09:54]  * r0b0r wonders if anyone has one of those Samsung Roomba knockoffs. There's a summary of the GPL in the back so the thing runs *nix - anyone here played with one?
[09:54] <DrGrov> hateball: But still not having a KDE greeter at login. Just the default XFCE one in Xubuntu.
[09:55] <hateball> DrGrov: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Greeter
[09:55] <DrGrov> hateball: Thank you. Will read in to that :)
[09:56] <DrGrov> hateball: But it is not possible to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure on a package like it was in 13.10?
[09:57] <hateball> DrGrov: It probably is, I just dont know. I only ever run Kubuntu so ;)
[09:57] <DrGrov> hateball: Ok ;)
[09:57] <DrGrov> hateball: Will wait around to see if anyone knows to help. I can not remember how I did change it in 13.10 anymore :)
[09:57] <hateball> well, it's just a single config file to edit...
[09:58] <napnap> Hi. I try to use EHCI driver for my usb3 port (I have trouble so I want to know it it's software or hardware). First I have disable USB3 in the BIOS => no effect XHCI is loaded. Then I've blacklisted the module xhci_hcd (own compiled kernel), effectively the module is not loaded but my usb3 port doesn't work anymore, ehci handle only my usb2 port...
[09:58] <DrGrov> hateball: Well yes it is. But I am not too fond of config files, have had issues in the past :(/
[09:58] <napnap> How can I use ehci on my usb3 port ?
[10:00] <ksinkar> where can I find the ubuntu smartphone source code? I want to download the source compile it and run it on my mobile.
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> ksinkar: you mean snappy?
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> !touch | ksinkar this if for ubuntu touch
[10:02] <backbox> hi
[10:03] <backbox> i need help
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> backbox: ask your question mate
[10:03] <Guest67793> buongiorno
[10:03] <Guest8213> hi people, does anyone know how to setup a shortcut to "disabled"?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !it | Guest67793
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> Guest8213: what are you trying to do exactly?
[10:04] <Guest8213> disabling a shortcut through keyboard settings / unity tweak tool
[10:04] <Guest8213> but i don't know how to pass null value
[10:04] <backbox> we need  do ddos to www.americannaziparty.com ok?
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !ops | backbox
[10:04] <backbox> we need  do ddos to www.americannaziparty.com ok?
[10:04] <backbox> we need  do ddos to www.americannaziparty.com ok?
[10:05] <popey> backbox: stop
[10:05] <amitprakash> Hi, uwsgi is not working on one of my ubuntu boxes despite identical install/config.. what gives?
[10:05] <amitprakash> config @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10321906/ working machine @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10321909/ non-working machine @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10321916/
[10:07] <cluelessperson> Someone is actively trying to bruteforce my server on port 22 at home
[10:07] <cluelessperson> Any suggestions?
[10:07] <popey> cluelessperson: have a safe password or keys only and ignore it
[10:07] <popey> cluelessperson: also, move ssh to another port, like 2222
[10:07] <cluelessperson> popey, sigh.  I dislike using alternate ports, more work for me to connect.
[10:07] <gvijai> cluelessperson, also install fail2ban .
[10:07] <amitprakash> nm, resolved!
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> cluelessperson: Maybe use fail2ban to block bruteforcing.
[10:07] <ikonia> cluelessperson: fireall their ip
[10:07] <popey> cluelessperson: i said "also"
[10:07] <ikonia> just block it
[10:07] <jpds> cluelessperson: Key-based logins only.
[10:07] <cluelessperson> tonyyarusso, popey   Sounds good to me.  Thanks.
[10:07] <popey> cluelessperson: use ssh keys only is the right answer
[10:08] <utack> Hi. after the release of ubuntu 14.04.2 is the kernel 3.13 originally shipped with 14.04 still supported or do i need to install kernel 3.16?
[10:08] <cluelessperson> jpds, I need to setup keys, yes.
[10:08] <jpds> cluelessperson: And limit new connection rate with iptables.
[10:08] <cluelessperson> My passwords are non dictionary phrases with symbols.
[10:08] <jpds> cluelessperson: Or if you use ufw: sudo ufw limit 22/tcp
[10:08] <cluelessperson> I'm a total noob with ubuntu server
[10:08] <popey> cluelessperson: probably not wise publicly exposing it then :)
[10:08] <cluelessperson> I mainly just set it up, keep access to myself and use it as an application server and testing for production
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:09] <jpds> utack: Dot-releases always have newer kernels, you can still get the 14.04 image for the older kernel.
[10:09] <cluelessperson> Also, I was attempting to follow these instructions.
[10:09] <Juan_Maria_Ferna> ey
[10:09] <cluelessperson> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-shell-restricting-access.html
[10:09] <utack> jpds sure, but will there still be security updates for the old kernel now after the dot release?
[10:09] <gvijai> cluelessperson, better move port to 2222 and put iptables with fail2ban chain .
[10:09] <jpds> utack: Yes.
[10:09] <utack> ok thanks
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: install what tonyyarusso suggested fail2ban
[10:10] <cluelessperson> gvijai, I don't know how all those works. It's not just simple to me.
[10:10] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, I will
[10:10] <Guest8213> ok lol i've found the solution, was moved to backspace and written right down ^^
[10:10] <cluelessperson> right now
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> !security | cluelessperson also interesting
[10:10] <jpds> cluelessperson: Even better option would be to not allow SSH to the internet and setup a VPN solution.
[10:10] <jpds> cluelessperson: And only allow SSH access via the VPN.
[10:11] <Guest8213> don't worry about brute force attacks, are automatics tools trying dictionary
[10:11] <ikonia> you don't know that
[10:11] <Guest8213> if you have a dumb password you should worry about that
[10:11] <cluelessperson> jpds, I don't like the idea of allowing third party servers into the loop
[10:12] <jpds> cluelessperson: You can set up a VPN server... on the same box?
[10:12] <jpds> cluelessperson: Nothing to do with third-parties.
[10:12] <cluelessperson> Alright, here's where I'm at.
[10:12] <cluelessperson> This is my home server, it runs within a VM specifically for web serving, yes, I use ubuntu-server at work, protected by VM for development and production run testing of various web applications and what not.
[10:13] <cluelessperson> but apart from that, getting it running, I'm a total noob
[10:13] <cluelessperson> Can you help me figure out where to start?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: whats your end goal with all this?
[10:13] <cluelessperson> I mean I do programming, but I don't understand how ubuntu operates.
[10:13] <ikonia> cluelessperson: if this is "work" it iis not something you should be using as a learning experience
[10:13] <cluelessperson> ikonia, Why not?
[10:14] <cluelessperson> this is at home at the moment
[10:14] <ikonia> because production suggests you should know what you are doing - not learning
[10:15] <cluelessperson> ikonia, For production I'm doing php/html/css/mysql application development, and various tools there.
[10:15] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I'm just not much of a system's admin
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: the server wiki and #ubuntu-server chat is a great point to start
[10:15] <cluelessperson> Anywhere, lotuspsychje My end goal is to understand how the hell ubuntu works.  You all are just like "do this with ufw"  "do this with that"
[10:16] <cluelessperson> So I have to go spend 30 minutes reading freaking man pages for each freaking command I want to run?
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> !server > cluelessperson read up mate
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: the best way is experience problems yourself
[10:16] <backbox> we need ddos www.americannaziparty.com ok?
[10:16] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, It's just frustrating, there's nothing best about it
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> tonyyarusso: he's back again :p
[10:17] <tomodachi> cluelessperson: well if you really want to understand something it will require patience and your time to get there, we can only lead you in the right way or answer your very directed questions
[10:17] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, Why waste time looking through arbitrary syntax for various commands when window's gui allows you to just enter obvious fields.
[10:18] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, from that aspect, evey time I come back to ubuntu servers I just feel overwhelmingly frustrated.
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: on the ubuntu server, you cant always hit 'obvious buttons', there's some editing configs
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: it all depends what you wanna go doing with your server?
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: take it step by step
[10:20] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, At the moment, just trying to limit a user to no shell, ssh tunnel/socks only
[10:20] <cluelessperson> but it says access denied
[10:20] <cluelessperson> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-shell-restricting-access.html   I attempted to follow these instructions
[10:20] <cluelessperson> and it blocked my freaking main user account "zachary"
[10:21]  * cluelessperson notes the bruteforce has stopped.
[10:21] <cluelessperson> How did someone realize that was open so quickly?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: hackers scan ssh at random ip ranges, your ip showed up
[10:22] <owlbread> join #twitchplayspokemon
[10:22] <owlbread> welp
[10:22] <owlbread> nailed that
[10:22] <RedPenguin> hey all
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> RedPenguin: welcome
[10:23] <RedPenguin> Anybody know a way to have MouseKeys randomly not turn off?
[10:23] <RedPenguin> MouseKeys works great but then they randomly for no reason turn off and I have to go back turn off and on again
[10:23] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, is there a resource for actually getting started and understanding the structure WELL for ubuntu?
[10:23] <rukai> When I use i3 nm-applet does not display the list of avaiable networks. Any ideas, or paths to travel down?
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: here's the filesystem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[10:25] <cluelessperson> wtf, I can't ssh into the server at all now
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> !manual | cluelessperson
[10:26] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, Thanks fror your help so far, be right back.  breaking the tunnel
[10:27] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, I don't understand having to read endless man pages.
[10:27] <illizian> cluelessperson: where's the server?
[10:27] <illizian> (Rackspace, AWS, etc?)
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: there's no point to paste your frustrations here mate, you need to start yourself at some point
[10:28] <cluelessperson> illizian, It's running on a VM within Windows upstairs, on a rack on my closet.
[10:28] <illizian> ah - physically access the damned thing and restore access then :P
[10:28] <cluelessperson> illizian, I will if I have to.
[10:29] <cluelessperson> illizian, My guess is attempting to login as "zac-tunnel" repeatedly may have blocked my ip with fail2ban newly installed. >.<
[10:29] <cluelessperson> perfect example of my frustration
[10:30] <cluelessperson> tomodachi,   I've been using ubuntu-server for years like this.  Time and patience isn't what's required.
[10:30] <cluelessperson> Studying man pages is.
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: please use this support for real issues, your working on
[10:31] <illizian> cluelessperson: get physical access and run:
[10:31] <illizian> fail2ban-client set ssh-iptables unbanip YOUR.LAN.IP.HERE
[10:32] <cluelessperson> In the production setting, I test everything wtihin a vm on a seperate machine.  Assuming everything checks out, I move it to a testing folder, then to production on the actual application server.
[10:32] <cluelessperson> that way I can screw around testing with my VM, and never really hurt production.
[10:32] <illizian> good idea :)
[10:33] <cluelessperson> illizian, I still need to setup freaking cronjob mysql backups and ftp to the network storage
[10:33] <cluelessperson> the HDD crashed last week.
[10:34] <cluelessperson> illizian,   cluelessperson.com  isn't responding, nor internal network ip, wtf
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> !ot | cluelessperson
[10:34] <ikonia> cluelessperson: check the basics walk through it
[10:34] <ikonia> cluelessperson: what ubuntu help do you actually need / want ?
[10:34] <RedPenguin> lol mousekeys disabled a minute ago
[10:35] <illizian> chill ikonia :P
[10:35] <ikonia> what ?
[10:36] <illizian> cluelessperson: Try creating a script using the commands from here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-backup-mysql-databases-web-server-files-to-a-ftp-server-automatically.html
[10:36] <illizian> and then add the script to chron...
[10:36] <cluelessperson> ikonia, Understanding, there isn't a particular goal here, kinda a difficult set of questions
[10:36] <ikonia> cluelessperson: what part are you struggling with or not clear on ?
[10:36] <ubuntuser13> Hello guys, i installed latest amd radeon omega drivers 14.501 and catalyst center 14.12. but system shows previous drivers 14.301. i'm using ubuntu trusty 64bit.
[10:36] <cluelessperson> ikonia, How I'm supposed to keep track of all these commands in my head.
[10:36] <ikonia> cluelessperson: you're not
[10:37] <ikonia> it's a huge topic, write things down, and with experience things get remembered
[10:37] <cluelessperson> I have ADHD.  I cannnot, simply CANNOT afford to spend 30 minutes looking over man pages for every single comand I want to use.
[10:37] <illizian> cluelessperson: using them so many times it doesn't bare thinking about haha
[10:37] <cluelessperson> it's a nightmare, and it hasn't improved through my years of usage.
[10:37] <illizian> cluelessperson: I have ADD too
[10:38] <illizian> cluelessperson: Google is your friend
[10:38] <cluelessperson> illizian, I want my job to be about programming applications, not constantly troubleshooting something that makes no attempt to be easy to understand or use
[10:38] <ikonia> cluelessperson: you're job isn't really our problem
[10:38] <ikonia> cluelessperson: thats up to you to resolve with your employer
[10:38] <ikonia> cluelessperson: I again advise you that if this is designed to be a prodution service to hire someone to do this for you, and maybe mentor you
[10:38] <cluelessperson> I'm not just trying to bitch, although I admit I am doing that.  This is a valid complaint that genuinely makes ubuntu much harder for users to use.
[10:39] <ikonia> cluelessperson: it's not a valid complaint
[10:39] <ikonia> your lack of experience is nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:39] <illizian> remembering commands makes it difficuly?
[10:39] <illizian> ikonia +1
[10:39] <cluelessperson> ikonia, Barrier to entry IS to do with ubuntu.
[10:39] <ikonia> cluelessperson: no it's not
[10:39] <ikonia> cluelessperson: it's you / your problem to learn
[10:40] <ikonia> we can help you where possible
[10:40] <cluelessperson> ikonia, That's simply not realistic.
[10:40] <ikonia> of course it is
[10:40] <ikonia> hence why people are using it in their job
[10:41] <ikonia> their learnt it - they use it
[10:41] <cluelessperson> Most people do not.
[10:41] <ikonia> most people do
[10:41] <ikonia> thats why they use it
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> can we drop the chitchat and move to real ubuntu issues here
[10:41] <cluelessperson> Most people don't use it to begin with, those that do use it don't tend to understand it well, and the few that do, apparently like you, claim it's all fine and dandy.
[10:42] <cluelessperson> sigh
[10:42] <footballguy> hey
[10:42] <cluelessperson> footballguy, sup
[10:42] <footballguy> wha omuter u using
[10:42] <footballguy> computer is what i meant
[10:42] <ikonia> footballguy: why ?
[10:42] <footballguy> just asking
[10:42] <ikonia> footballguy: you're in #ubuntu a technical support channel for ubuntu
[10:43] <footballguy> oh
[10:43] <ikonia> if you want social chat try ##chat or ##hardware for hardware chat
[10:43] <cluelessperson> I'm not sure what faile2ban is doing, the bruteforcing keeps resuming
[10:43] <ikonia> cluelessperson: it will do nothing until you configure it
[10:44] <ikonia> cluelessperson: you have to show it to pattern match the attacks and raise the firewall to block it
[10:44] <cluelessperson> ikonia,  splendid, because I typed "fail2ban --help"  and it says command not found
[10:44] <cluelessperson> what do I do with that/
[10:44] <ikonia> cluelessperson: have you installed fail2ban ?
[10:44] <cluelessperson> yes
[10:44] <cluelessperson> sudo apt-get install fail2ban
[10:44] <MaxFrames> hello
[10:44] <hateball> You could use !tab to get the correct command for starters
[10:44] <ikonia> fail2ban normally isn't a command
[10:44] <cluelessperson> MaxFrames, sup
[10:45] <MaxFrames> I unfortunately have to install the oracle jdk; what's the easiest way?
[10:45] <ikonia> you need fail2ban-client or fail2ban-server
[10:45] <ikonia> depending on what you are doing
[10:45] <ikonia> there should be no real real to call fail2ban from the command line
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> !java | MaxFrames
[10:45] <cluelessperson> hateball, ... How the hell am I supposed to be aware of that in the first place/
[10:45] <ikonia> cluelessperson: read/learn
[10:45] <ikonia> cluelessperson: understanding the tools you are using
[10:46] <MaxFrames> according to this tutorial, I'm supposed to need the jdk, but to be honest I don't understand why the jre would not be sufficient: http://www.tuxtrix.com/2014/10/install-sonicwall-netextender-vpn.html
[10:47] <cluelessperson> MaxFrames,  the java runtime environment contains libraries necessary to run files, but doesn't have as many resources for running more involved things, I imagine.
[10:47] <MaxFrames> I had never hear of the ppa repository... maybe that would be the less involved way to get the jdk on my system
[10:48] <cluelessperson> Any ideas on why these instructions are failing for me?
[10:48] <ikonia> cluelessperson: what instructions ?
[10:48] <cluelessperson> ikonia, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-shell-restricting-access.html
[10:49] <ikonia> cluelessperson: define "failing me"
[10:49] <cluelessperson> sudo useradd -M -N -s '/usr/sbin/nologin zac-tunnel -p PASSWORD
[10:49] <ikonia> cluelessperson: you need to be specific in the problem
[10:49] <MaxFrames> I take it that I will just need to do this? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[10:49] <cluelessperson> ikonia, access denied, password not maching according to the auth.log
[10:49] <MaxFrames> add the ppa repository, and then just install the package as I would with any supported package?
[10:49] <b-p> hi, help me pls. how can i set to not log 'sql plugin' lines to auth.log: http://pastebin.com/KiktwCJ6
[10:50] <ikonia> cluelessperson: walk it through - lets do "sudo apt-get update" first
[10:50] <ikonia> cluelessperson: what happens there
[10:50] <hateball> MaxFrames: Yes, remembering PPA are unsupported
[10:51] <MaxFrames> yes, I know, but unfortunately it looks like this sonicwall vpn client, which I need, won't work on openjdk
[10:51] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I've run that every day for the last three days on all three machines
[10:51] <cluelessperson> ikonia,  sudo apt-get update  upgrade dist-upgrade
[10:51] <ikonia> cluelessperson: then answer my question  "what does it do"
[10:52] <MaxFrames> I suppose that uninstalling packages installed from the ppa repository also works the usual way?
[10:52] <hateball> MaxFrames: Yes
[10:52] <cluelessperson> ikonia, My cursory undertanding is that update scans the repositories of installed packages for newer versions, informing you that things are ready.  I assume due to my choice at installation that it will then proceed with major security updates.
[10:53] <cluelessperson> ikonia, otherwise, it awaits  upgrade ?
[10:53] <ikonia> cluelessperson: no, I mean does the command work
[10:53] <ikonia> do you get any errors/warnings
[10:53] <ikonia> cluelessperson: does the command work / give you any warnings
[10:54] <MindSpark> hey, does anyone know how to use pidof to find an exact match? It seems to be looking for just the commandname and not necessarily along with the argument
[10:54] <cluelessperson> ikonia, lists a bunch of  "hit"s and "ign" but yes
[10:55] <ikonia> cluelessperson: ok  thats great
[10:55] <ikonia> cluelessperson: so show me the exact command you are running (and I do mean exact) thats failing
[10:55] <ciwolsey> anyone know of a nice app for screenshot/upload that will work in i3 ?
[10:55] <cluelessperson> ciwolsey, What comes to mind for me is pastebinit
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | ciwolsey
[10:56] <cluelessperson> ciwolsey,     command||pastebinit      outputs   http://paste.ubuntu.org/23452353/  very easy
[10:56] <MaxFrames> actually it looks a bit more involved because in this case the ppa is not java itself, but an installer for java
[10:56] <cluelessperson> ikonia, can't login with putty, auth.log says password doesn't match, despite having made the user with that passowrd
[10:56] <ikonia> cluelessperson: look at the shell you've created
[10:56] <cluelessperson> ikonia, currently running    sudo passwd zac-tunnel  to reset password
[10:56] <MaxFrames> like a two layer install process... I dunno if uninstalling the ppa would also uninstall java (the "payload")
[10:57] <ikonia> cluelessperson: /usr/sbin/nologin
[10:57] <ikonia> cluelessperson: you've set it to a shell designed to stop you logging in
[10:58] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I found a solution.  I reset the password with passwd USER
[10:58] <ikonia> cluelessperson: you're setting the shell to a no login shell
[10:58] <cluelessperson> ikonia, now it's able to login (although no shell kills the session)
[10:58] <ikonia> you should not be logging in
[10:58] <ikonia> cluelessperson: they are not meant to have passwords
[10:59] <cluelessperson> ikonia, My goal was to setup a user that couldn't use shell access, but still require password authentication
[11:00] <ikonia> thats not what the guide you linked to is doing
[11:00] <MaxFrames> it worked anyway, the sonicwall vpn client is now starting at least
[11:00] <cluelessperson> ikonia, Hell, I understand pretty well how encryption works, but I have no idea how to go about implementing keys fo rhtis
[11:00] <cluelessperson> ikonia, Yes, earlier I showed you my modified command.
[11:00] <cluelessperson> sudo useradd -M -N -s '/usr/sbin/nologin zac-tunnel -p <password>
[11:01] <arpad2> hi
[11:01] <ikonia> cluelessperson: yeah, but you also linked to the guide
[11:01] <ikonia> cluelessperson: please be specific about a.) what you are trying to achieve b.) what you are actually typing
[11:01] <arpad2> hp wi fi printer doesn't connect, please could you help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/10322500/
[11:02] <cluelessperson> ikonia, I didn't realize that no shell might prevent login, I made a logical assumption that it was an empty shell that a user couldn't add commands into.
[11:02] <ciwolsey> thanks for the suggestion all
[11:03] <cluelessperson> I will be right back.
[11:09] <mcphail> restricting an ssh login to use a tunnel doesn't require a fancy user setup
[11:09] <cluelesszacperso> hrm, did lotus leave?
[11:09] <beyerservice> arpad2: did you try the last command thats suggested by your pastbin?
[11:10] <cluelesszacperso> mcphail, What do you suggest?
[11:10] <bb_> Hi guys, is there a way to turn off throttling for apache? I am only getting 150kbps from my web server? how do I increase ?
[11:10] <makara> hi. Every hour or so a strange chime noise like an email notification or something occurs. I can't figure out where it's coming from?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> bb_, apache isn't throttling.  your ISP might be.
[11:10] <cluelesszacperso> ikonia, do you want to see something scary?
[11:11] <arpad2> beyerservice: no, I'll do that, thanks
[11:11] <mcphail> cluelesszacperso: first, setup a new key for your existing user in ssh/authorized_keys
[11:11] <ikonia> cluelesszacperso: not really
[11:11] <mcphail> cluelesszacperso: by existing user I mean a real user - no need to create a dummy account for tuneling
[11:12] <rukai>  /close
[11:13] <mcphail> cluelesszacperso: then prepend the key with "no-pty,permitopen="localhost:tunnelport""
[11:14] <mcphail> cluelesszacperso: you can then add extra restrictions from the sshd manual as you see fit
[11:14] <cluelesszacperso> mcphail, neat
[11:15] <mcphail> cluelesszacperso: an alternative would be to set up a full vpn such as openvpn
[11:16] <MaxFrames> I have a few linux-headers and linux-image packages which apt-get suggests I autoremove. is it advisable?
[11:16] <cluelesszacperso> ikonia, I believe you were the one saying I shouldn't be learning in a production environment.  I thought you'd appreciate being scared out of your life.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, autoremove will leave you with the current and immediately preceding kernels.  go for it.
[11:17] <ikonia> cluelesszacperso: you asked me and I said "no" no means " don't send me stuff about what I've just said no to"
[11:17] <LnL> I have an issue with my internet, I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>, but dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com times out
[11:17] <LnL> any ideas?
[11:18] <cluelesszacperso> ikonia, -shrugs-
[11:18] <makara> LnL: DNS is restrictived
[11:18] <ikonia> sounds like either a.) your syntax is wrong b.) something is blockig port 53 to google on your network
[11:18] <makara> LnL: are you at work?
[11:18] <beyerservice> LnL: reconnect?
[11:18] <LnL> no
[11:18] <ikonia> simeple test - telnet to port 53 on <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:18] <ikonia> if you get rejected/time out its blocked
[11:19] <OerHeks> "dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com" should work fine
[11:19] <arpad2> beyerservice: it is still giving me error message, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10322817/
[11:19] <LnL> ikonia:  telnet is tcp
[11:19] <ikonia> LnL: yes, you can also do udp
[11:19] <LnL> ah
[11:19] <ikonia> but a telnet socket will normally mirror a udp firewall rule
[11:19] <ikonia> just a basic high level test
[11:20] <ikonia> eg: I can connect
[11:20] <LnL> telnet has the same problem, I'm not sure where to look now tho
[11:20] <ikonia> LnL: then  youre blocked at a network level
[11:21] <LnL> I'm on  the same network
[11:21] <ikonia> you're on <IP_ADDRESS>'s network ?
[11:22] <ikonia> I don't think so.....
[11:22] <LnL> no I mean I'm on the same network as the linux machine
[11:22] <makara> LnL: explain your topology
[11:24] <beyerservice> Arpad2: I am sorry I need to leave. hope someone can figure it out. should be hplip or some Python problem
[11:24] <hellknight> Any chance of the Utopic kernel landing in Trusty?
[11:24] <arpad2> ok, thanks
[11:26] <k1l> hellknight: yes
[11:26] <OerHeks> hellknight, did you upgrade, as 14.04.2 is out?
[11:26] <k1l> !enablement | hellknight
[11:26] <k1l> !enablementstack | hellknight
[11:27] <hellknight> Yeah I did upgrade to 14.04.2 but the kernel is still 3.13.5-45
[11:27] <k1l> hellknight: see my link. you need the enablement stack installed
[11:27] <hellknight> k1l: Ok
[11:28] <LnL> makara: I reset my dhcp lease, and it's fixed. not sure what was going on
[11:29] <hellknight> k1l: It is saying that I should manually install the stack, should I do it or should I wait for the new kernel to show in updates?
[11:31] <OerHeks> hellknight, manually, see that url
[11:32] <hellknight> OerHeks: Thank you. Doing that. Just 82 MB download
[11:33] <EthicalHacker> o hi
[11:34] <k1l> hellknight: yes, read that link, it explains it. ubuntu will no install a completly new kernel version since its a LTS release. so you need to do that manually.
[11:39] <hellknight> k1l: Yeah. It is downloading. One last question, is it safe to remove the older 3.13 kernel after I've installed the newer one?
[11:40] <abator> how to install xenserver?
[11:41] <k1l> hellknight: you can, but you nee to make sure to install the next lts backport kernel then since the 3.16 kernel looses support in some time
[11:41] <jadesoturi__> hi all.. iv installed vsftpd, but i need the regular user to be able to write to /etc and /var when connected.. how do i achieve that without compromizing security?
[11:41] <jadesoturi__> can i just chown them as that user? or will that create problems for other stuff?
[11:43] <bb_> Hi guys, is there a way to turn off throttling for apache? I am only getting 150kbps from my web server? how do I increase ?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> bb_, apache is not throttling you.
[11:51] <meiselstein> hello everyone
[11:51] <meiselstein> i haven't used irc in forever!
[11:51] <meiselstein> probably since the 1990's....
[11:51] <cfhowlett> meiselstein, ask your ubuntu question
[11:52] <meiselstein> sorry. i'm actually very new to ubuntu; i'm downloading it for the first time. i want to install it on a lenovo g50-70
[11:52] <meiselstein> just in case i have problems with ubuntu, will i be able to use the lenovo one key recovery on my laptop?
[11:53] <ikonia> meiselstein: thats hard wired into the recovery partition as I understand it
[11:53] <ikonia> and part of the bios
[11:53] <cluelessperson> meiselstein, if you leave the recovery partition intact, yes.
[11:53] <ikonia> so as long as you call it from the bios and the recovery partition is still there you should be fine
[11:53] <jadesoturi__> anyone?
[11:53] <meiselstein> how do i leave the recovery partition intact? will it be an option? sorry, very new to this...
[11:54] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: you cannot do it without security risks
[11:54] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: ftp users should not be writing to /etc or /var
[11:54] <cluelessperson> meiselstein, I don't think it's the case, but it's possible the bios uses the MBR to access the recovery partition too, which ubuntu may overwirte, but I believe you can put it back in place.
[11:54] <ikonia> they should have very specific directories you can open up
[11:54] <cluelessperson> meiselstein, with,, uh.   gparted.
[11:54] <ikonia> meiselstein: it' normally the first hidden partition on the disk
[11:55] <ikonia> meiselstein: the lenovo docs will explain it for your specific model
[11:55] <jadesoturi__> this is on LAN, and the user is the admin user. the only user on the server right now..
[11:55] <meiselstein> ok. I checked, i have C:, D:, F: and G:
[11:55] <jadesoturi__> ikonia i need this to be able to upload files to the apaches /www from lan...
[11:55] <meiselstein> C: is labeled Windows 8
[11:55] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: var is not /var/www
[11:56] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: so you need to be specific, ftp does not need access to /var - it needs access to /var/www/html
[11:56] <cluelessperson> meiselstein,   With windows you'll typically have a tiny partition reserved for some settings/windows boot procedures, like 256MB or so
[11:56] <cluelessperson> meiselstein, C drive,   then a recovery.
[11:56] <jadesoturi__> yeah. but how does one allow that then?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:57] <cluelessperson> jadesoturi__,   chmod 777 -R /var/www/html
[11:57] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: you can either open that up to ftp user permissions (a bad idea) or change the document root to the individual users home direcotrys
[11:57] <cluelessperson> jadesoturi__, allows any use to modify those files
[11:57] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: do NOT do that command
[11:57] <ikonia> cluelessperson: do not open peoples machines up to huge security holes
[11:57] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: do not 777 your web root
[11:57] <jadesoturi__> yeah. i dont want to 777 it...
[11:57] <ikonia> that is a huge security hole
[11:57] <jadesoturi__> but can i chown that folder? or will that create a headache for apache etC?
[11:58] <jadesoturi__> iknow. thats what im trying to avoid.
[11:58] <meiselstein> so as long as i don't install ubuntu on C:, i'm ok?
[11:58] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: you can chown it, apache only needs read
[11:58] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: a nice approach is changing the docroot of the site to the home directory of the user doing the upload
[11:58] <ikonia> then giving apache read permissiosn to their home directory
[11:58] <cluelessperson> jadesoturi__, you could make a group that apache and the user share?
[11:58] <ikonia> or just add the usuer to the apache owner group
[11:58] <jadesoturi__> ok. ill try that then.. :) also: found this: is this a good way to do it? http://www.ducea.com/2006/07/27/allowing-ftp-access-to-files-outside-the-home-directory-chroot/
[11:59] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: I personally don't like what that URL suggests, but it will technically work
[11:59] <jadesoturi__> ok. why? is it a security issue? this is virtual machine running on an esxi host, and the whole /var is a 600gb lvm drive...
[12:00] <jadesoturi__> will there be any issues with that?
[12:00] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: no technical issue at all
[12:00] <jadesoturi__> ok. so its just a matter of preference for you then?
[12:01] <ikonia> yes
[12:01] <cluelessperson> ikonia, do you suggest having users save their web folders within their homes and just directing apache through configs to them for their sites?
[12:01] <ikonia> I just don't like it - rather than it's a problem
[12:01] <jadesoturi__> ok. thanx.. :)
[12:01] <ikonia> cluelessperson: it's certainly one option
[12:01] <ikonia> I wouldn't blindly suggest it, but it can work great in some situations
[12:01] <cluelessperson> ikonia, so what's the actual suggested practice?
[12:02] <b-p> hi, help me pls. how can i set to not log 'sql plugin' lines to auth.log: http://pastebin.com/KiktwCJ6
[12:05] <jjavaholic> is it possible to get hardware acceleration working using the freshflash plugin in firefox or chrome?
[12:05] <meiselstein> thanks for the help everyone! gotta run
[12:10] <hellknight> k1l: Thanks..
[12:15] <jadesoturi__> ikonia, i tried the setup from the link, i can now see the /var dir in my home dir, but i still cant upload.. iv chown the /var in my home dir, and can upload to, but the html folder f ex.. and i want the user to have access to the WHOLE /var dir, not just www
[12:16] <kev321123> looking for help with an snd_usb_audio problem, have a usb audio device that work fine provided it is not connected at boot, if plugged in after is fine, if connected during boot audio seems to play, but no sound from speakers... any ideas?
[12:20] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: as I said - I don't recommend that approach
[12:21] <ikonia> jadesoturi__: and I assure you - you REALLY don't want to give ftp access to /var
[12:22] <jadesoturi__> iknow. so what solution do you recommend then ?
[12:22] <jadesoturi__> moving the docroot to users homedir?
[12:23] <chetankanthariya> list
[12:24] <jadesoturi__> list ?
[12:29] <jadesoturi__> ok. nevermind. ijust bind all the folders i needed as individual folders in users home dir.but i got another issue. i have two nics on the server. one for WAN and one for LAN access.. how do i configure apache to run on the WAN interface and not the lan? or does it just serve to both anyway?
[12:30] <hateball> jadesoturi__: you configure that in the virtualhost setting for your website
[12:30] <jadesoturi__> both are really LAN, but different ranges(<IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>) but one of them is getting port redirects from the firewall on port 80 when our WAN ip is accessed on that port..
[12:30] <jadesoturi__> okok.
[12:31] <dani_> hola
[12:31] <dani_> hi
[12:32] <achylles> which package should I install to make a pop up appear after plugging my earphone in the laptop jack?
[12:34] <hateball> jadesoturi__: if you check the config it's probably set to *:80 , so you change * to the IP you want it to bind to
[12:40] <jadesoturi__> ok. thx. looking through it now.
[12:40] <RedRat> hi guys
[12:40] <somnambula> hello
[12:40] <RedRat> what the correct wat to benchmark disk?
[12:40] <RedRat> dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync or dd bs=1M count=1024 if=/dev/zero of=test conv=fdatasync ?
[12:40] <hateball> RedRat: you could use bonnie++
[12:42] <RedRat> hateball, I will see this here, thanks
[13:11] <Abhishek_> Is there an IRC channel for uvc (USB video class) and v4l2?
[13:23] <JinBaba> Hi, whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and update?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> JinBaba, update only updates the app database.  upgrade actually installs things.
[13:26] <JinBaba> Thanks cfhowlett! I have hexchat v2.9.6 installed on my ubuntu 14.0x upgrading doesn't update it to its latest version.
[13:26] <cfhowlett> JinBaba, and apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade to the highest available versions in the repos  :)
[13:28] <JinBaba> It won't upgrade the HexChat either. What am I missing?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> JinBaba, apt-cache policy hexchat from my 14.04.2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10324432/
[13:31] <ulrichard_> The pam module-switch-on-connect  only switches the audio to the newly connected device, but the volume controls and indiactors as well as sound configuration still point to the built in device. Is this a known problem?
[13:31] <JinBaba> cfhowlett, mine is same too. So it's the latest version right?
[13:31] <ulrichard_> pulse not pam module
[13:31] <JinBaba> Somebody on #HexChat told me to upgrade as it was obsolete. weird.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> JinBaba, latest available for 14.04 in the distros.  if you just MUST have the new version, download source and compile ...
[13:32] <cfhowlett> JinBaba, Xchat is obsolete
[13:35] <k1l> JinBaba: hexchat is the new xchat. you can install that from the ubuntu repo
[13:35] <JinBaba> I'm using HexChat already k1l
[13:35] <knightCorvi> which IRC client do must people use in ubuntu?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> knightCorvi, most use whatever the default is for their distro
[13:36] <knightCorvi> so emphaty I guess?
[13:37] <knightCorvi> empathy*
[13:37] <cfhowlett> knightCorvi, really doesn't matter much, does it?  use the client that works best for you.
[13:37] <knightCorvi> just curious, that's all thanks
[13:40] <KlausedSource> does any one of you have a vserver at strato?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> KlausedSource, #ubuntu-server        might be a good channel to ask
[13:41] <KlausedSource> cfhowlett, k thx
[13:43] <leeyaa> hello
[13:44] <surs> how do I create a bootable live disk? Note: I don't want usb installer drive.
[13:44] <leeyaa> how to install zabbix-frontend-php without pulling apache2 as dependancy
[13:44] <leeyaa> i dont want it
[13:44] <leeyaa> i tried  apt-get --no-install-recommends install zabbix-frontend-php
[13:44] <leeyaa> it also pulls php and other stuff that i don't want
[13:45] <TheEagerPadawan> anyone around here that has experience with linuxacademy?
[13:57] <PCatinean> Hey guys, how do I connect via ssh on a server on a different port than 22?
[13:57] <PCatinean> Since it's a external ip that's forwarding to the ssh port and there's already one bound to 22
[13:58] <tomodachi> PCatinean: ssh -p portnumber
[13:58] <epta> hello everybody
[13:58] <tomodachi> PCatinean: ssh -p portnumber  user@host
[13:58] <PCatinean> tomodachi, wierd I did not see it in help
[13:58] <tomodachi> for the client to use another port
[13:59] <tomodachi> its in the man page trust me
[14:02] <mrx-c0d3r> Hey guys , am looking for ubuntu fps multiplayer games
[14:02] <mrx-c0d3r> Do you guys have any suggestions
[14:02] <cfhowlett> mrx-c0d3r, steam       and see the software center
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !steam | mrx-c0d3r
[14:03] <mrx-c0d3r> Seen lot of games and am confusd
[14:04] <cfhowlett> mrx-c0d3r, confusion cure: get off irc.  download games.  test for yourself.
[14:05] <mrx-c0d3r> Thanks for the suggestion Cfhowlett , But i dont have enough bandwidth left to test games
[14:12] <Putti> Hi! Is there any other way to bind the XF86MonBrightnessDown/Up key to some normal key except using a virtual keyboard? Where can I find the file where the key binding is defined?
[14:14] <PCatinean> Hey guys I just got this: http://hastebin.com/opedabevoj.coffee
[14:14] <PCatinean> i printed my locale
[14:14] <Putti> In usr/share/gnome-control-center/keybindings are only the ones which are available through gui, and so therefore there is not any bindings for XF86MonBrightnessDown/Up
[14:19] <deepblue> hey can someone help me with ubuntu
[14:19] <deepblue> i am really confused and lost
[14:19] <deepblue> anyone?
[14:19] <Putti> deepblue, what's the matter?
[14:19] <Guest73271> ok
[14:20] <Guest73271> the matter is ..software center would not open
[14:20] <Guest73271> update would not open
[14:20] <Putti> tried to restart?
[14:20] <Guest73271> and in the end of anything i try i get the messeage pakcage linux gheader so and so needs to be reintsalled bit i can not find archive for it
[14:21] <Guest73271> i tried everything u can think of
[14:21] <Guest73271> even wrecked a USB(for unknown reasoin) trying to reintall it
[14:21] <Putti> does software center open from command line?
[14:21] <Guest73271> noops
[14:22] <Putti> what is the output of this: software-center?
[14:22] <Putti> command not found?
[14:22] <Guest73271> apparently all roads lead to linux gheader so and so needs to be reintsalled bit i can not find archive for it
[14:22] <Guest73271> i have to idea how to find archive for it
[14:23] <Putti> gheader? or just linux header?
[14:23] <Guest73271> ideas?
[14:23] <Guest73271> anyone
[14:23] <Guest73271> linux header
[14:23] <Guest73271> archive for linux header
[14:23] <Putti> run this: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[14:23] <Guest73271> 3.16 something
[14:24] <Putti> tell me if it works :)
[14:24] <Guest73271> whats unanme -r
[14:24] <Putti> it tells which kernel you are running
[14:25] <Guest73271> Reading package lists... Done
[14:25] <Guest73271> Building dependency tree
[14:25] <Guest73271> Reading state information... Done
[14:25] <Guest73271> E: The package linux-headers-3.16.0-31 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[14:25] <Guest73271> ali@ali-desktop:~$
[14:25] <Guest73271> that is what it says
[14:26] <Putti> Try this answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122699/how-to-remove-package-in-bad-state-software-center-freezes-no-synaptic
[14:26] <Guest73271> what do u suggest now
[14:26] <Guest73271> ok thanks
[14:27] <Guest73271> let me c
[14:27] <Putti> someone else seemed to have the same problem
[14:27] <Guest73271> all this happened wehen i installed flash 11 and uninstalled it
[14:27] <Putti> what.. hmm.. via apt-get?
[14:31] <Guest73271> wow
[14:31] <Guest73271> wow
[14:31] <Guest73271> its semi working
[14:31] <Guest73271> it might work
[14:31] <Putti> ok, what is the next problem? :D
[14:32] <Guest73271> i am software package is now repaiing broken packages autopmatically
[14:32] <Putti> maybe now just do sudo apt-get autoremove / autoclean / update / upgrade / etc..
[14:33] <Putti> ^ works almost never... but it is worth of a try ! :D
[14:33] <mutlu> how can i install ubuntu to usb hdd from my installed ubuntu?
[14:33] <Guest73271> uypdater is working too
[14:33] <PCatinean> Can anyone help me and tell me why the information in /etc/network/interfaces is not being used and eth0 is down  on the ubuntu-server reboot? (14.04.02)
[14:33] <Guest73271> i think this might be it
[14:33] <Guest73271> error message at the top right has vanished
[14:33] <Guest73271> Geeez
[14:34] <Guest73271> thanks Putti
[14:34] <Guest73271> where r  u from

[14:34] <Guest73271> i can not tell u how thankful i am
[14:34] <Putti> no problem :)
[14:34] <OerHeks> mutlu, usb-creator, standard app
[14:34] <Putti> I'm from Finland, you?
[14:34] <mutlu> without iso
[14:34] <OerHeks> Guest73271, type !cookie | Putti
[14:35] <OerHeks> mutlu, without iso ? no
[14:35] <Guest73271> Pakistan
[14:35] <Guest73271> ur very helpful
[14:35] <Guest73271> i am ocd
[14:35] <mutlu> ok :( thanks
[14:35] <Guest73271> so i get obsessed with issues
[14:35] <Guest73271> u have no idea how much mental peace u gave me
[14:36] <OerHeks> have fun Guest73271
[14:36] <JinBaba> lol
[14:36] <Putti> Guest73271, but I can't still figure out why flash installer did all this?! :O So did you were using packages or installing from some archive from the internet?
[14:37] <Fichtre> hi
[14:37] <Putti> Fichtre, Hi!
[14:38] <Fichtre> first try on IRC ^
[14:38] <Putti> Okay, welcome in :)
[14:39] <Fichtre> thank youb :)
[14:39] <Fichtre> you*
[14:39] <cfhowlett> ask smart questions ... https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[14:43] <Dive1> is there a way to filter the chat window to only show messages from a specific user?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> Dive1, not in hexchat
[14:43] <krux> you could assign a highlight for that user name
[14:44] <Dive1> cfhowlett, I'm using the built-in chat with Thunderbird.  Is that the same as hexchat?
[14:45] <realityphantom> sprinle mah dinkle
[14:45] <cfhowlett> Dive1, tbird has irc chat??? news to me
[14:45] <jjavaholic> is it possible to get hardware acceleration working using the freshflash plugin in firefox or chrome?
[14:45] <AegNuddel> ok
[14:45] <AegNuddel> freaking awesome.
[14:45] <Dive1> cfhowlett: the new versions have it apparently.
[14:46] <OerHeks> jjavaholic, what is freshflash ?
[14:46] <AegNuddel> been having trouble getting my wireless card working
[14:46] <AegNuddel> just tethered my tablet to by computer
[14:46] <AegNuddel> my
[14:46] <jjavaholic> pepperflash
[14:46] <PCatinean> anyone on networking issue?
[14:46] <AegNuddel> works fine as external modem
[14:46] <OerHeks> jjavaholic, it should do that standard. unless you have not installed prop. driver
[14:47] <jjavaholic> nvidia-304?
[14:47] <OerHeks> jjavaholic, yes, that sounds allright
[14:49] <typ> is there an pure-ftpd related channel? i can't seem to find an official note anywhere
[14:52] <cfhowlett> irc_nick_pos OerHeks
[14:52] <typ> nvm it's a filezilla related issue
[14:52] <typ> garbage client
[14:53] <typ> why would it only show the first 9992 (!) files
[14:55] <oslo2015> Can someone explain to me the difference between the .04 and the .10 versions of Ubuntu?
[14:55] <cfhowlett> oslo2015, 14.04 is long term support = 5 years.  .10 = 9 months
[14:55] <oslo2015> Don't understand how 14.04.02 can be released now that 14.10 is out
[14:56] <oslo2015> Ok, no software difference?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> oslo2015, LONG TERM SUPPORT 5 years
[14:56] <umbra_purus> I have an issue. Everytime I boot ubuntu, a window to autenticate a wifi connection appears even after I configurated the wifi connection. Why does it still apears?
[14:56] <tomodachi> oslo2015:  14.05 is a long term support release
[14:56] <cfhowlett> !lts | oslo2015
[14:57] <Dive1> tomodachi: will you be my friend?
[14:57] <umbra_purus> I have an issue. Everytime I boot ubuntu, a window to autenticate a wifi connection appears even after I configurated the wifi connection. Why does it still apears??
[14:57] <tomodachi> Dive1: I already am
[14:57] <tomodachi> or at least it says so
[14:57] <oslo2015> Alright, thanks
[14:57] <tomodachi> umbra_purus: sounds like a bug, perhaps try remove the wifi connectio and add it again?
[14:57] <tomodachi> in network manager
[14:58] <Dive1> tomodachi: Yay!!
[14:58] <jjavaholic> 35% CPU usage seems a bit much for a basic youtube video
[14:59] <Dive1> jjavaholic, are you using chrome?
[14:59] <AciD`> is there a quick way to create an encrypted usb key partition so that it could only be read on computer where you input the right password ?
[14:59] <Mangled> non LTS releases are not as stable as LTS
[14:59] <umbra_purus> tomodachi: okay thx. another issue. I'm trying to access /etc/apt/sources.list but it shows an error "permission denied"
[14:59] <umbra_purus> tomodachi: how can i edit this file
[14:59] <umbra_purus> ?
[14:59] <Dive1> umbra_purus, use sudo
[15:00] <umbra_purus> how?
[15:00] <umbra_purus> Divel: how do I integrate sudo in my commmand? I'm kind of newbie
[15:00] <cfhowlett> umbra_purus, sudo gedit filenamehere
[15:01] <umbra_purus> thx cfhowlett
[15:01] <Dive1> umbra_purus, assuming you have a terminal open
[15:01] <cfhowlett> umbra_purus, happy2help!
[15:01] <Dive1> are you trying to open it through the file explorer?
[15:01] <Ntemis> Hello
[15:02] <pilppe> hello
[15:02] <umbra_purus> yes Dive1. but how do I edit in my terminal window. gedit uses graphical interface right?
[15:02] <Ntemis> Working only at command line on a server
[15:02] <pilppe> Xubuntu vs Ubuntu ?
[15:02] <Ntemis> I need to execute a binary from usb
[15:02] <Dive1> umbra_purus: you can use vi ... sudo vi filenamehere
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !flavors | pilppe,
[15:02] <Ntemis> I chmod +x
[15:03] <pilppe> why do people hate Unity so much lol
[15:03] <Ntemis> Trying to run it and permission denied
[15:03] <Dive1> umbra_purus: or, more likely, (vim)
[15:03] <Ntemis> I have su privilages
[15:03] <Ntemis> Any help?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ntemis
[15:04] <Dive1> umbra_purus: e.g (sudo vi filenamehere), (sudo vim filenamehere), and even (sudo gedit filenamehere) should work; it should just launch the gedit app in the GUI with the specified file opened for editing.
[15:05] <umbra_purus> for example when i open with gedit the files is empty. how come?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> umbra_purus, empty file means it's a new file.
[15:06] <umbra_purus> so how do i open an existing file?
[15:06] <umbra_purus> an arguments perphas?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> umbra_purus, sudo gedit FileNameHere
[15:07] <umbra_purus> already used it. the file comes up empty
[15:07] <Dive1> umbra_purus: to be more specific; the file exists, but might simply have no content.
[15:07] <umbra_purus> but when i open via files app it's not empty
[15:07] <umbra_purus> it has content
[15:08] <umbra_purus> via files app when i open the file with gedit it shows content
[15:08] <umbra_purus> seeing it right now
[15:08] <cfhowlett> umbra_purus, I suspect you didn't target the full address: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list         is what you want
[15:08] <pbx> umbra_purus, are you issuing the command from the directory that contains your file?
[15:08] <pbx> q.v. what cfhowlett said
[15:09] <Dive1> +1 for cfhowlett
[15:09] <umbra_purus> yes
[15:09] <oslo2015> How long will Ubuntu 14.10 recieve updates?
[15:09] <umbra_purus> that is cfhowlett
[15:09] <oslo2015> 9 months?
[15:09] <umbra_purus> but it comes up empty
[15:09] <cfhowlett> oslo2015, excatly
[15:09] <jjavaholic> dive1: nope, firefox
[15:09] <umbra_purus> okay never mind
[15:10] <umbra_purus> it worked. ths cfhowlett
[15:10] <oslo2015> I feel stupid - why is there need for a nine month version? Can't everybody just use the .04 version?
[15:10] <cfhowlett> umbra_purus, happy2help!
[15:10] <umbra_purus> by the way imagine I want to open via terminal window
[15:10] <umbra_purus> how can i do that?
[15:10] <umbra_purus> not with gedit right?
[15:10] <Dive1> jjavaholic: wait, what did I miss?
[15:10] <umbra_purus> only terminal window
[15:11] <rainbowtux> Hi all, is there somewhere a good tutorial for creating .deb packages? That seems unnecessarily hard :/
[15:11] <cfhowlett> oslo2015, LTS comes out every 2 years.  some users want/need bleeding/bloody edge.  some (like me) are willing to forego bleeding edge in favor of stability
[15:11] <jjavaholic> you asked if the 35% of cpu usage watching a video in youtube was in chrome. I said nope
[15:11] <Dive1> umbra_purus, you can launch gedit from the terminal window
[15:11] <cfhowlett> !packaging | rainbowtux
[15:12] <oslo2015> cfhowlett, now i understand
[15:12] <oslo2015>  thanks
[15:12] <cfhowlett> oslo2015, :)
[15:13] <umbra_purus> What if I'm only using a virtual machine
[15:13] <Dive1> umbra_purus: to clarify, do you mean that you want to edit the file from within the terminal window?  If so, use vi or vim which are file editors for the terminal console.
[15:13] <umbra_purus> ctrl alt f1?
[15:13] <Dive1> umbra_purus: ctrl+alt+t
[15:14] <oslo2015> I'm not a bleeding edge guy, either, stability probably more important
[15:14] <umbra_purus> yes Dive1 but imagine I'm using a virtual machine?
[15:14] <oslo2015> I'll go for 14.4
[15:14] <oslo2015> 14.04
[15:14] <cfhowlett> oslo2015, current version : 14.04.2
[15:14] <oslo2015> Yes, as of yesterday, right