[05:13] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, I thought you were trying to change your timezone ?
[05:13] <klaym> here's my desktop: www.kotiposti.net/jisometsa/Kuvakaappaus.png
[05:13] <gigamonkey> hondje: do you mean "that's an oddball kernel thing" as in, "not an Ubuntu problem"?
[05:13] <LDM> fkermal: Launch a shell (command prompt)
[05:13] <thoreauputic> fkemal: lspci | grep snd      << type that and see if it contains  snd_cmipci  (don't paste the output here)
[05:13] <hondje> gigamonkey: Well, could be if something wasn't compiled right, or missed a bug fix, but I'd offhand suspect hardware or the kernel
[05:13] <Fanskapet> reka, yes but i've done that before so it won't be a problem for me :)
[05:14] <Fanskapet> hondje, hmm well nah.. just used the update manager and updated GAIM :)
[05:14] <Fanskapet> and that shouldn't break the GL compatibility :
[05:14] <Fanskapet> :P
[05:14] <reka> Fanskapet: ah, no worries then. :-)
[05:14] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, I don't have to enter my password
[05:14] <hondje> Fanskapet: hrm, I guess just reinstall the fglrx drivers and hope :)
[05:14] <ivanox> anyone around using wine?
[05:14] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, because I had Synaptic open not-so-long-ago
[05:14] <Fanskapet> yeah :)
[05:14] <Fanskapet> *yawns*
[05:14] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, ohh ok
[05:14] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, less than 15 minutes ago, so the password is saved
[05:14] <vHintswen> sudo cat /dev/ttys1 don't work (input/output error)
[05:15] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, yeah I didn't get what you were talking about :D
[05:15] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, sorry, anyway, I opened it
[05:15] <vHintswen> gonna b 2 noisy to take out my mouse and plug it in there and all so i try that in morn
[05:15] <theine> vHintswen, "sudo cat /dev/ttys1" or "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1"? there's a difference...
[05:15] <samuel> sup all, is there a better menu editor than SMEG? SMEG wont edit the preferences menu yet... or by hand?
[05:15] <gigamonkey> So the main problem that this hdc lost interrupt seems to cause is that it completely freezes VMWare, rendering one of it's processes unkillable, even with kill -9 as root.
[05:16] <gigamonkey> Is there any chance that VMWare is somehow causing the problem as well? Or is it just an innocent victim?
[05:16] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, and no, I don't want to change my timezone
[05:16] <fkemal> thoreauputic....  no it doesnot contain snd_cmipci
[05:16] <jeroen_> I want Ubuntu to see the time/date settings in the BIOS as GMT, not local time
[05:16] <VincentX> how do you make a root account=
[05:16] <theine> vHintswen, anyway, good luck, gotta leave now...
[05:16] <VincentX> how do you make a root account?
[05:17] <jeroen_> VincentX, sudo password
[05:17] <Seveas> samuel, the preferences menu is not part of the freedestktop.org specification
[05:17] <LDM> fkemal: did you get lspci to work for you?
[05:17] <Heimdall> hey LinuxJones, are are you guy ?
[05:17] <jeroen_> VincentX, but there's no use really
[05:17] <Seveas> VincentX: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:17] <fkemal> no... how do i get it ..
[05:17] <Seveas> samuel, and as such, there will probably not be an editor for that
[05:17] <thoreauputic> fkemal: aargh sorry - type lsmod | grep snd and see if it is in that (my mistake)
[05:18] <TokenBad> hondje, looks like got it to connect...and restrict to home dir
[05:18] <TokenBad> now to see if anyone can upload
[05:18] <Seveas> jeroen_, sudo passwd will have unexpected results :) (ie, you change YOUR password :))
[05:18] <hondje> TokenBad: the moment of truth ;-)
[05:18] <TokenBad> well it hasn't let anyone upload yet
[05:18] <LinuxJones> Heimdall, eh am I a guy ?
[05:18] <samuel> Seveas, no kiddin? didnt know that, b4 you could edit everything with nautilus... is that going to work again? just curious?
[05:18] <TokenBad> why would this be any different
[05:18] <TokenBad> heheh
[05:18] <jeroen_> Seveas, VincentX okay, "sudo -i && password" then
[05:18] <christos> is the password for su different from the password i use for sudo?
[05:18] <LDM> fkemal: are you using GNOME or KDE for your desxtop?
[05:18] <Seveas> jeroen_, will neither work :)
[05:19] <Heimdall> LinuxJones : don't know this is an expression.... :/ :)
[05:19] <Seveas> sudo -i will open a new shell
[05:19] <fkemal> Gnome i think
[05:19] <Seveas> passwd will be executed after that shell terminates
[05:19] <Seveas> jeroen_, welcome to the intricacies of sudo :)
[05:19] <Heimdall> LinuxJones : anyway I hope youre doing well
[05:19] <ivanox> is dma enabled on harddrives by default or do I have to enable it?
[05:19] <jeroen_> Seveas, VincentX last attempt: "sudo password root"
[05:20] <LinuxJones> Heimdall, thanks dude same to you :)
[05:20] <LDM> fkemal: ok, I'm not as familiar with gnome... but you want to go where your programs are listed, and look for gnometerminal or something similar.
[05:20] <hondje> ivanox: you have to add it, /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:20] <VincentX> ok
[05:20] <fkemal> thoreauputic ... it is not there also
[05:20] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: typo - passwd is what you want
[05:20] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, yeah..
[05:20] <thoreauputic> fkemal: what does lspci | grep audio say ?
[05:20] <jeroen_> stupid sudo :p
[05:20] <jeroen_> I want Ubuntu to see the time/date settings in the BIOS as GMT, not local time
[05:21] <TokenBad> dang none of my friends are answering so they can test my ftp
[05:21] <jeroen_> How do I do this?
[05:21] <TokenBad> must be to early for them
[05:21] <VincentX> be back in a sec
[05:21] <fkemal> there writes.... snd_pcm.... snd_usb_audio and much more... but not snd_cmipci
[05:21] <Seveas> jeroen_, try tzconfig
[05:21] <mypapit> i've installed ubuntu 5.04...but how do i get connected to broadband (adsl)?
[05:21] <jeroen_> Seveas, have tried, that just change timezone
[05:21] <Seveas> (oslt)
[05:21] <mypapit> help me!!
[05:22] <fkemal> ldm... i have root terminal.. and its open
[05:22] <thr1ce> mypapit, you probably already are
[05:22] <thr1ce> try ping www.google.com
[05:22] <Seveas> mypapit, try pppoeconf
[05:22] <ivanox> hondje, should I enable it on the device or on the partitions? I suppose device would be more logic right?
[05:22] <mypapit> ok
[05:22] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: or rerun sudo base-config and change the time to utc
[05:22] <hondje> ivanox: correct
[05:22] <Seveas> ivanox, device indeed
[05:22] <ivanox> ok coolio
[05:22] <thr1ce> for broadband...?
[05:22] <hondje> ivanox: if you want, msg me and I can give you some hdparm help
[05:22] <mypapit> thr1ce, i'm using other box rite now, because ubuntu 5.04 can connect directly to adsl
[05:22] <thr1ce> ooh, adsl
[05:23] <thr1ce> nevermind then  :_
[05:23] <mypapit> Seveas, wish ubuntu made these things more obvious
[05:23] <thr1ce> actually, ubuntu probably hs the BEST hardware detection of any distro
[05:23] <bionic> Anyone know how i get Quake3 to use alsa aswell? I changed the snddevice to /dev/adsp, but it still show up that quake3 uses /dev/dsp when i run lsof |grep dsp
[05:23] <Seveas> mypapit, agreed :)
[05:23] <thr1ce> so no complaining
[05:23] <thoreauputic> fkemal:    lspci | grep audio  should tell you what sound card you have
[05:23] <TokenBad> mypapit, I use cable..and it detected mine auto
[05:23] <mypapit> thr1ce, agreed with you... hardware detection was a breeze... easy to use... but i cant connect to dsl..
[05:24] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, it gives no output
[05:24] <Seveas> TokenBad, adsl isn't cable
[05:24] <mypapit> TokenBad, maybe because it was assign by dhcp
[05:24] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: odd
[05:24] <TokenBad> ahh
[05:24] <Seveas> TokenBad, cable doesn't use pppoe
[05:24] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, Breezy here, though ;)
[05:24] <mypapit> hehe..
[05:24] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: all bets are off then ;)
[05:25] <reka> bionic: can you now play > 2 sounds at once now? (i sent you the fix last night)
[05:25] <fkemal> thoreauputic ... it says nothing...
[05:25] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, I don't see why; there must be a way to stop Ubuntu from setting the system clock from the hardware clock in such a way..
[05:25] <fkemal> thoreauputic ... may i pm u? wanna ask something in private
[05:25] <thoreauputic> fkemal: :(
[05:25] <jeroen_> well, there should be a way.. thoreauputic
[05:26] <Seveas> jeroen_, run base-config again...
[05:26] <bionic> reka, well i can now with f.eks xmms and mplayer, but quake3 still stops at sound initializing when running xmms
[05:26] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: running base-config should work
[05:26] <thoreauputic> fkemal: OK
[05:26] <lancer285> is there a .deb package for mplayer that works w/ ubuntu?
[05:26] <thr1ce> www.ubuntuguide.com
[05:26] <Seveas> lancer285, yes, in the Ubuntu multiverse repository :)
[05:26] <thr1ce> org
[05:26] <thr1ce> *
[05:27] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad...
[05:27] <thr1ce> it has the answer
[05:27] <thoreauputic> fkemal: OK accepted - go ahead
[05:27] <fkemal> ok
[05:27] <lancer285> is there a way to search the repository? so I can find the package name?
[05:27] <thr1ce> "how can I install other media players, such as Mplayer"
[05:27] <nalioth> ubuntugide is bad
[05:27] <thr1ce> apt-cache search mplayer
[05:27] <Seveas> lancer285, apt-cache search
[05:27] <Seveas> lancer285, or packages.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <reka> bionic: does it run ok without xmms?
[05:27] <fkemal> can u make a direct connection to my pc.. with remote control.. is there a way ?
[05:27] <nalioth> lancer285: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <lancer285> awesome, thanks.
[05:27] <thoreauputic> fkemal: I see no message ?
[05:27] <bionic> reka, yes it does, i use the alsa output
[05:27] <jeroen_> thanks Seveas
[05:27] <lancer285> I'm used to urpmi w/ mandrake, so this is pretty new to me
[05:28] <lambert> hello
[05:28] <bionic> reka, that came out wrong, thaught you meant xmms, but yeah quake3 runs ok without xmms
[05:28] <thr1ce> i used google with slackware :)
[05:28] <lambert> not french here???
[05:28] <nalioth> lambert: en #ubuntu-fr
[05:28] <lambert> ?what?
[05:28] <virtuald> can anyone show me their /etc/ld.so.conf?
[05:28] <reka> bionic: ah, i'm just interested mind, i don't have a solution ... haven't installed q3 yet in ubuntu
[05:28] <thoreauputic> fkemal: try just /msg thoreauputic <something>
[05:29] <nalioth> lambert: parlez francais en #ubuntu-fr
[05:29] <Heimdall> hey lambert : #ubuntu-fr st le channel en franais mais y'a moins demonde ;)
[05:29] <lambert> oah ok
[05:29] <Heimdall> nalioth : ahah :)
[05:29] <lambert> bou j'ai eu peur
[05:29] <thoreauputic> fkemal: your dcc isn't getting through
[05:29] <Seveas> virtuald:
[05:29] <Seveas> cat: /etc/ld.so.c: No such file or directory
[05:29] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ cat /etc/ld.so.conf
[05:29] <Seveas> /usr/X11R6/lib
[05:29] <Seveas> ghe, discard the first line of that ;)
[05:29] <virtuald> ok thankns
[05:29] <Heimdall> lambert : si tu fais de l'info,n il faut parler anglais sans en avoir peur ;)
[05:29] <virtuald> :)
[05:29] <lambert> ok merci
[05:29] <Heimdall> u'r welcome
[05:30] <christos> is su supported in ubuntu?
[05:30] <lambert> amis je dois repartir  alors @+
[05:30] <optik> hey, I just purchased a font for use on a design that I am doing, how do I make it so that I can use the font in gimp?
[05:30] <nalioth> christos: yes it is
[05:30] <thenuke> how do I reinstall grub to MBR with some liveCD?
[05:30] <Heimdall> reka : you think that's beautifile language ?? :)
[05:30] <Heimdall> beautiful*
[05:30] <reka> Heimdall: well... the girls sure like it. :-)
[05:30] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, mount your drives, chroot into the installed system and run grub-install
[05:30] <jeroen_> thenuke, search for it, you'll find it
[05:30] <christos> the password i use to login doesn't work for su, what should i use?
[05:30] <nalioth> optik: drop it in ~/.fonts  i believe
[05:30] <Seveas> thenuke*
[05:30] <Heimdall> reka : oh ? :)
[05:31] <Fabian> how can I copy all files that end with .hrf from one directory to another?
[05:31] <Heimdall> reka : well one point for me so ;)
[05:31] <nalioth> christos: su only works to switch regular users by default
[05:31] <Seveas> Fabian, cp /path/to/folder1/*.hrf /path/to/folder2/
[05:31] <reka> Fabian: cp *.hrf /path/to
[05:31] <nalioth> christos: ubuntu doesnt use 'root' account by default
[05:31] <lancer285> fabian cp path/to/files/*.hrf /path/to/files
[05:31] <christos> ok i got it
[05:31] <optik> nalioth:  there is no ~/.fonts
[05:31] <Seveas> christos: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:31] <Fabian> hehe, thx Seveas, reka, lancer285
[05:31] <Jester> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu-amd64 on a hardware SATA raid0 running on nforce3 chipset.  It's able to find the HDs correctly, but it can't see the raid and puts them as 2 seperate drives on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. Anything I could do to make it recognize the raid, or anyone succeeded with a raid on nforce3-250GB?
[05:31] <nalioth> optik: so make one
[05:32] <Fabian> like windows then....
[05:32] <Brunellus> stupid questions:  If I no longer want to run the 2.6.11 kernel and prefer to run 2.6.8, can I just remove the 2.6.11 kernel in apt and have ubuntu boot the 2.6.8?
[05:32] <optik> kk
[05:32] <christos> so su doesn't mean super user it meas switch user
[05:32] <nalioth> christos: you are after "sudo"
[05:32] <Seveas> Brunellus, 2.6.10 is the default for hoary though, but yes you can
[05:32] <lsuactiafner> Jester : i had the same problem, basicaly i pwned a gentoo 64bit boxen and made my own kernel that actually worked
[05:32] <optik> nalioth:  just restart X now?
[05:32] <virtuald> does a library need something extra for static linking?
[05:32] <Seveas> Brunellus, warning though: install the other one first, reboot into it and *then* remove the other
[05:32] <nalioth> optik: restart shouldnt be required
[05:32] <virtuald> like an .a file
[05:33] <nalioth> optik: just open gimp
[05:33] <Brunellus> Seveas:  I still have the 2.6.8 kernel and the headers...
[05:33] <topyli> Fabian: actually, wildcards are used a bit differently. * in unix = *.* in windows
[05:33] <Brunellus> In fact, I'm running off that kernel now
[05:33] <Jester> lsuactiafner, ok so newer kernels should work ?
[05:33] <Brunellus> 2.6.10 doesn't like my hardware or ndiswrapper--because somehow I can't seem to get ndiswrapper and my wlan driver to run with kernels newer than 2.6.8-5
[05:33] <lsuactiafner> yeh newer kernels continue to add support for new hardware
[05:33] <optik> thanks
[05:33] <optik> worked :D
[05:34] <nalioth> optik: restarting is only required when one updates the kernel
[05:34] <Brunellus> Seveas:  are they still releasing security patches for the 2.6.8x kernels, or is that done?
[05:35] <Seveas> ...or when one has seriously screwed up services/kernel modules nalioth :)
[05:35] <Seveas> Brunellus, yes they are
[05:35] <nalioth> Seveas: there are exceptions to all rules
[05:35] <Brunellus> b/c ideally, I'd like to point apt to get the patched 2.6.8 kernel and headers, but run hoary otherwise
[05:35] <nalioth_wrkn> work schedule of a cab drive is never static
[05:35] <Seveas> Brunellus, they will continue to support 2.6.8 for at least 16 more months
[05:36] <Brunellus> awesomeness.  what repository would I have to add to keep the 2.6.8 kernel?
[05:36] <Seveas> s/16/10/
[05:36] <Seveas> apt-pin the kernel to warty and use hoary for the rest :)
[05:36] <Brunellus> wait, how do I do I apt-pin the kernel to warty?
[05:37] <Seveas> Brunellus, search the wiki for apt pinning
[05:37] <Brunellus> ta very muchly!
[05:37] <topyli> Brunellus: you can do it in synaptic if you don't feel like reading :)
[05:37] <lsuactiafner> seems a new kernel is out yay
[05:37] <Brunellus> is anyone aware of an ubuntu backport for the uqm 0.4 package?
[05:38] <scott> they removed the instructions for installing mplayer's codecs with totem from the wiki. I did add proprietary plugins in totem which opened a directory and I just copied them all in there, but they aren't working
[05:38] <scott> any ideas?
[05:38] <Brunellus> what?!
[05:38] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you there?
[05:38] <Brunellus> they removed 'restricted-formats'?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yeah
[05:39] <scott> Brunellus: no, they just removed that section
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I found some interesting stuff
[05:39] <topyli> either beagle 0.0.11 is faster than .10 or i'm dreaming
[05:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: needed a break from the pc
[05:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah-ha?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : normal
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I think
[05:39] <Brunellus> h'mmm.  googlecache tme?
[05:39] <Brunellus> time?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : did you see my link ?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/
[05:39] <HappyFool> Brunellus: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is still there, afaik
[05:40] <LinuxJones> scott, alot of folks just install totem-xine or gxine and it just works after installing the w32codec package
[05:40] <Jester> lsuactiafner, sry to bother you mate lol, been trying to find a solution to this problem for a while (amd64+nforce3+raid), can you detail a bit how you made it work ?
[05:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, going there now
[05:40] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I don't understand very much of those files BUT, I found something
[05:40] <ilba7r> do i have to reboot every time i loose connection to my wirless network or is there a smarter way to re establish network connection?
[05:40] <reka> scott: it's still there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[05:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : this link : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/slmodem-serial.html, which actually talk about the new driver
[05:41] <jbroome> ilba7r: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart might work better
[05:41] <scott> reka, LinuxJones, thanks
[05:41] <ilba7r> thanx jbroome
[05:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it could be that the previous driver was not ok, so I uninstalled all, and I wanna try this new one
[05:41] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  or ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0   I guess
[05:41] <jbroome> ilba7r: np
[05:42] <Heimdall> told to be compatible with kernel 2.6
[05:42] <fetman> what's wrong with my sound? all of a sudden it's just all quiet? I have checked the volume-settings, the soundcard (it works in windows), and the amplifier.. :(
[05:42] <zorglube> join/ ubuntu-fr
[05:42] <ilba7r> thoreauputic unfourtanetly it is wlan not eth0
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: then substitute as appropriate I supose
[05:42] <thoreauputic> *suppose
[05:43] <LinuxJones> fetman, hit "alt + F2" then start typing gstreamer-properties (it will auto-complete for you)
[05:44] <LinuxJones> fetman, for the output try selecting esd or alsa and see if one of those work
[05:44] <fetman> LinuxJones: ok..
[05:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hrm
[05:44] <Heimdall> HappyFool yes ?
[05:44] <ilba7r> thoreauputic thanx i will try it though with wlan things are not as smooth as with eth
[05:44] <ilba7r> thank you guys
[05:44] <TokenBad> bah i give up
[05:44] <Addius> aff, I'd forgotten how long it takes to compile a whole kernel on an older system <,<
[05:44] <fetman> LinuxJones: output is set to ESD, and input is set to OSS
[05:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: have you tried that 'the symptom' part? Do you have that problem?
[05:45] <TokenBad> people still can't upload
[05:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i thought your modemd launch ok
[05:45] <TokenBad> but at least now says permission denied
[05:45] <refuze2looze> i have a multimedia keyboard that i'm trying to get to control beep media player. so i mapped my play/etc keys to XF86Play, etc. using xmodmap and using configuration editor assigned XF86Play to "beep-media-player -t" but it's not working. using xev i can see that the keys are working and indeed mapped to XF86AudioPlay. anybody know what's going on??
[05:45] <Heimdall> HappyFool : what symptom aprt ?
[05:45] <hondje> refuze2looze: try using the absolute path, maybe?
[05:45] <LinuxJones> fetman, ok did you try alsa as output then hit test to see if there is sound
[05:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: near the top of http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/slmodem-serial.html
[05:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: 'The symptom:'
[05:46] <fetman> LinuxJones: no sound
[05:46] <refuze2looze> hondje: what do you mean?
[05:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : err...no :-D
[05:46] <TokenBad> I think I need to redo the mount stuff
[05:46] <TokenBad> and thats why people can't uploads
[05:47] <fetman> LinuxJones: when i try to test with esd it says "failed to construct test pipeline for esd"
[05:47] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I'll install the new driver, can't be worst
[05:47] <LinuxJones> fetman, right click the sound icon on the gnome panel and select properties, is there a soundcard listed in the dropdown list box ?
[05:47] <hondje> refuze2looze: /usr/bin/beep-media-player
[05:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: fair enough
[05:48] <Heimdall> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy ?
[05:48] <refuze2looze> hondje: nah.. i tried having it run other stuff too and it doesn't work
[05:48] <hondje> refuze2looze: where'd you set the shortcuts at?
[05:48] <scott> anyone know where evolution saves it's configs? I always copy my .evolution folder over thinking that will keep everything but it always asks me to enter account info etc anyway
[05:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: is that for me?
[05:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : sorry, yes
[05:49] <fkemal> can i see the files on a ntfs partition in linux ??? is that possible
[05:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : is that correct ?
[05:49] <reka> refuze2looze: afaik, you need to have bmp active before using the buttons, which kind of nulls the whole point of having the keys.  do they work when bmp is active?
[05:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that should work if the directory /media/floppy exists
[05:49] <LinuxJones> fkemal, yeah look @ www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:49] <refuze2looze> hondje: the keyboard shortcuts? configuration-editor /apps/metacity/global_keybindings (the other shortcuts i assigned there do work
[05:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you might want a 'umask=222' or similar option
[05:49] <Heimdall> heee.... not working :)
[05:49] <refuze2looze> reka: no. bmp is active
[05:49] <hondje> refuze2looze: hrm, got me beat then :)
[05:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: does /media/floppy exist ?
[05:50] <Heimdall> yes
[05:50] <balor> I've got my sound drivers loaded but some OSS programs seem to be failing. How can I find out what's making them fail?
[05:50] <refuze2looze> reka: even if i try to have it open firefox or something it doesn't work
[05:50] <fetman> LinuxJones: you mean preference instead of properties?
[05:50] <Heimdall> I must have a floppy in it ??
[05:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try 'mount /dev/fd0'
[05:50] <reka> refuze2looze: using gnome?
[05:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes ;)
[05:50] <fetman> LinuxJones: and yes, it's listed there
[05:50] <Heimdall> ah lol
[05:50] <Heimdall> what a shame :)
[05:50] <refuze2looze> reka: yes
[05:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: /dev/fd0 is in /etc/fstab with a 'user' option, so you shouldn't need sudo
[05:50] <refuze2looze> reka: the funny thing is it was working before and then it suddenly stopped
[05:51] <reka> refuze2looze: i've always set mine up using: sys->prefs->k/b shortcuts
[05:51] <reka> refuze2looze: i'm not familiar with your method
[05:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: which version of the driver are you going to try?
[05:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://www.smlink.com/objects/slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[05:51] <Heimdall> this one
[05:51] <Lafitte-> what file i edit to edit my grub loader (remove older kernel entries ?
[05:51] <Heimdall> the last
[05:51] <dhonn> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:51] <Lafitte-> thanks
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Lafitte-: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:52] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I've read about : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/ungrab-winmodem.tar.gz also in the files...
[05:52] <TokenBad> who can help me with mounting drive..to see if can figure out why people can't upload to me?
[05:53] <reka> refuze2looze: might be worth a look: http://bmp-itouch.sourceforge.net/
[05:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that's only needed in specific cases, as far as i can tell from the linmodems page
[05:53] <Heimdall> okay
[05:53] <refuze2looze> reka: you set it there and it controls BMP?
[05:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well tat cool I'm learning a lot of things
[05:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it might be worth trying if what you're doing now doesn't work
[05:54] <Heimdall> I know how to mount my floppy :) cooool )
[05:54] <Heimdall> lol
[05:54] <reka> refuze2looze: only when it's active, which is why it's kind of pointless.
[05:54] <Hajuu> Hey.
[05:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: bear in mind this will all be for naught when you get your adsl modem
[05:54] <reka> refuze2looze: you should be able to start firefox through there though
[05:54] <Hajuu> Where can I check my modems flow control settings?
[05:54] <Heimdall> yes
[05:54] <Heimdall> I take notes
[05:54] <Heimdall> :)
[05:54] <jbroome> then you get to play with pppoe!  woohoo
[05:55] <refuze2looze> reka: ok.. i changed the keyboard shortcut to <mod4>P to see if it works, it worked, changed it back to XF86AudioPlay, and suddenly everything works.. i did absolutely nothing else.
[05:55] <Hajuu> modem/comport
[05:55] <refuze2looze> reka: and BMP doesn't need to be active, so i suggest you try this method as well
[05:56] <refuze2looze> reka: must have been some kind of bug. very strange
[05:56] <reka> refuze2looze: i'm not desperate to use them, but it might be useful... could you please explain the method?
[05:56] <Hajuu> Where can I check my modems flow control settings?
[05:56] <Hajuu> modem/comport
[05:57] <hondje> anyone get firestarter and dict to play nice?
[05:57] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok have decompressed the driver with gzip, now what ? this is not a deb file
[05:57] <HappyFool> Heimdall: indeed
[05:58] <Heimdall> :/
[05:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just a sec
[05:58] <Heimdall> lol
[05:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: how big is the download?
[05:58] <thoreauputic> hondje: try test.dict.org
[05:58] <Heimdall> 2.2M uncompressed
[05:58] <thoreauputic> hondje: the default dict URL is wrong now
[05:59] <Heimdall> 2242560
[05:59] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, i'm downloading it now
[05:59] <HappyFool> Heimdall: does it have a readme?
[05:59] <HappyFool> erk
[05:59] <thoreauputic> hondje: I set an alias for it in .bashrc as well as in th egnome dict thing
[05:59] <hondje> thoreauputic: oh, thanks man
[05:59] <hondje> isn't there /etc/dict.conf?
[05:59] <hondje> no :o
[05:59] <thoreauputic> hondje: working?
[06:00] <Heimdall> hum when I decompress it, it removes the '.gz' and thats all
[06:00] <Heimdall> M file
[06:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try 'tar xf slmodem-2.9.10.tar
[06:00] <hondje> thoreauputic: like a champ, thanks man
[06:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you can extract directly from tar.gz's with 'tar xzf slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[06:00] <thoreauputic> :D
[06:00] <Heimdall> ritgh
[06:00] <Heimdall> right
[06:01] <Heimdall> this was a tar file I just sazw it with 'file' command
[06:01] <ekCo> anyone know how to update drivers etc withouth having the ubuntu cd
[06:01] <ekCo> i lost it
[06:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it should create an sl-modem directory, or perhaps sl-modem-2.9.10 directory
[06:01] <ekCo> and cant get nvidia drivers installed
[06:01] <reka> question: anyone know of a good offline dictionary?  something like this: http://wordweb.info/more.html
[06:01] <Heimdall> yes indeed
[06:02] <Heimdall> and there is a README
[06:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah-ha
[06:02] <ekCo> anyone know how to update drivers etc withouth having the ubuntu cd???
[06:02] <ivanox> ekCo, use the repos
[06:02] <Heimdall> HappyFool : seems to be much easier
[06:02] <reka> ekCo: you shouldn't need the cd if you have a net connection. just get everything you need in the repos.
[06:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: sort of
[06:02] <refuze2looze> reka: sure.. first you have to use xev to see the key codes of the multimedia keys, then you use xmodmap -pke xmodmap.conf to create the default configuration, you might need to add key bindings to the configuration file to the keycodes you found in xev. then open up configuration-editor and go to /apps/metacity/global_keybindings, add what you mapped to the key codes to run_command_X, and in /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands add
[06:02] <refuze2looze>  the command such as beep-media-player -t for play/pause
[06:03] <refuze2looze> reka: oh and you should copy the configuration file to /etc/xmodmap.conf and use the command xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.conf to get em to work
[06:03] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you'll need to recompile the driver every time you update the kernel
[06:03] <ekCo> how reka?
[06:03] <ivanox> ekCo, go here www.ubuntuguide.org and get their repolist, but dont use the us.archive. replace it with like de.archive
[06:03] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try just running 'make' and 'sudo make install' as suggested in the README
[06:03] <vince_> I'm using hotway to have evolution check my hotmail account, but wish to have it mark downloaded messages as read. Can anyone tell me wht file I need to edit and how? thanks!
[06:04] <Heimdall> I'm doing it
[06:04] <reka> ivanox: or better yet, just archive.com iirc
[06:04] <Heimdall> launching gcc ;)
[06:04] <Varanger> IA-32 = i386 ???
[06:04] <Heimdall> seems cool
[06:04] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, the instructions are pretty clear
[06:05] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok I've made it
[06:05] <Heimdall> do you think that's all ?
[06:05] <mikas> i was just wondering.. how come it is easier to type exactly three question marks rather than one...
[06:05] <hondje> IA-32?!
[06:05] <hondje> Oh man, this is all getting too confusing :)
[06:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall: 'sudo make install' etc -- follow the instructions in the README
[06:05] <Seveas> Varanger, yes
[06:05] <ekCo> reka, already done all that
[06:05] <ekCo> but its asking me for cs
[06:05] <ekCo> cd*
[06:05] <lancer285> Hey, where do I get the libdvdcss?
[06:06] <TokenBad> ok question
[06:06] <reka> mikas: how come it's easier to type three dots rather than a question mark? :-p
[06:06] <TokenBad> if I want to mount a drive
[06:06] <TokenBad> and make it so that the drive is usable for all people
[06:06] <thoreauputic> ekCo: comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list and update
[06:06] <HappyFool> lancer285: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tells you how, afaik
[06:06] <ekCo> k
[06:06] <lancer285> Thanks HappyFool
[06:06] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes I'm at config country
[06:07] <ekCo> um there isnt any about the cs..
[06:07] <ekCo> cd*
[06:07] <TokenBad> what is the should it be set as owned by root?
[06:07] <ekCo> you mean add a # to the top?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> ekCo: there must be, or it wouldn't ask - at the top
[06:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: is it working?
[06:07] <ekCo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release amd64 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted to #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release amd64 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[06:07] <ekCo> ?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> ekCo: then do sudo apt-get update afterwards
[06:07] <Heimdall> I'm not sure to understand the command
[06:07] <BockBilbo> hey there
[06:08] <thoreauputic> ekCo: that's the line, yes
[06:08] <ekCo> ok
[06:08] <BockBilbo> whats the way to adding an iso locale to the system?
[06:08] <Hajuu> Where can I check my modems flow control settings? I think theres a problem with it because when I run an application that accesses the internet (with my connection activated through "pon"), it takes every last scrap of bandwidth possible.. causing problems with both my IRC and gAIM connections...
[06:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: which command?
[06:08] <Heimdall> 6/
[06:08] <Heimdall> to config modem country
[06:09] <HappyFool> oh, right
[06:09] <Ninwa> Does anybody know how to configure recording devices (microphone), I can hear myself talk into it over the speaker when the volume is up, but it doesn't record.
[06:09] <Hajuu> hmm, Heimdall ?
[06:09] <HappyFool> try slmodemd --countrylist
[06:09] <Heimdall> yes Hajuu ?
[06:09] <cary> [yaaawwwn]
[06:09] <HappyFool> or slmodemd --countrylist|grep -i france
[06:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: or just don't worry about it for now
[06:10] <bob2> Hajuu: how could that be related to modem flow control?
[06:10] <Heimdall> ok I prefer don't worry so ;)))
[06:10] <cary> 	pfp, what are the chances you are around?
[06:10] <Heimdall> HappyFool : so this is it
[06:10] <HappyFool> Heimdall: do the 'Getting started' instructions too
[06:10] <Heimdall> yes, but for installation
[06:10] <HappyFool> Heimdall: afaik
[06:11] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you can probably tweak things so these commands are run on startup
[06:11] <scott> anyone have a T40 thinkpad? what do I need to do to get the hard drive to stop burning a hole in my case, have it suspend to ram when I close the lid?
[06:11] <azol> hi all. how can I use "modem on hold" (v.92)  in Linux? is it possible?
[06:11] <Heimdall> I try
[06:11] <HappyFool> hmm, i seem to have b0rked synaptic *sigh*
[06:11] <ekCo> thanks guys.
[06:11] <bob2> scott: same as on any other laptop, edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[06:11] <ekCo> later
[06:11] <ompaul> Is there such a beast as software that helps someone design model railways?
[06:11] <abbot45> does anyone else have a problem with Pan Newsreader crashing all the time?
[06:11] <zorglube> join/ #ubuntu-fr
[06:11] <bob2> scott: but at least some t40's don't sleep very well, due to the radeon not powering off
[06:12] <Maus> Flash on my system doesn't play with any sound.  Am I missing a package?
[06:12] <samuel> anyone know how to access winpopup from linux? as in send messages? i dont want linpopup
[06:12] <thoreauputic> ompaul: interesting question: in open source I don't know - a friend has such a thing on his windows box
[06:12] <jbroome> Maus: i'd say that was a feature, not a bug. :)
[06:13] <snadge> can someone give me a quick explanation of vga= options?
[06:13] <ompaul> thoreauputic, well if there is none I better learn to code one up rather fast and I have not seen that other one :-)
[06:13] <apollo2011> How do I check if the smb.conf doesn't have any errors in it like typos that will make it invalid?
[06:13] <bob2> Maus: no
[06:13] <mebaran151> what's a muppet
[06:13] <mebaran151> I just saw it on the side
[06:13] <thoreauputic> ompaul: nice project for you: write a model railway design program ;)
[06:13] <snadge> i've tried normal, and 778.. and normal gives me a corrupted console, and 778 gives me a horizontal bar in X
[06:13] <bob2> samuel: why don't you want linpopup?
[06:13] <bob2> Maus: run "pkill esd", restart firefox, do you get sound?
[06:13] <bob2> apollo2011: try running samba
[06:13] <samuel> bob2, i dont want the messages poping up on my computer
[06:14] <jbroome> apollo2011: testparm
[06:14] <ompaul> thoreauputic, well yeah thanks ;-)
[06:14] <hondje> anyone use fetchyahoo w/ evolution?
[06:14] <apollo2011> jbroome: ok so just "testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf"?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> mebaran151: heh - google  " sesame street muppets" :)
[06:14] <jbroome> apollo2011: i believe so
[06:14] <apollo2011> cool thx
[06:14] <Maus> bob2: yes
[06:14] <sproingie> thoreauputic: better yet google "the muppet show"
[06:14] <bob2> Maus: cool
[06:15] <thoreauputic> sproingie: yeah, I'm out of date there ;)
[06:15] <Maus> bob2: What did we just do?
[06:15] <ompaul> sproingie, that last one was for mebaran151
[06:15] <bob2> Maus: kill the program that was using your sound card
[06:15] <LokeDK> I've installed apache 1.3 with apt-get.. and the wwwroot is /var/www .. But as normal user I can't write to that directory.. I've added my user to the www-data group but I still don't have write access.. also maked sure to chmod it
[06:15] <Maus> bob2: Then what was that program using for to begin with, and will I have to do this every time I boot?
[06:16] <apollo2011> jbroome: it worked and said the file was fine but my Windows pc sees it ok and my other two ubuntu systems say there is an invalid parameter and won't load the shares...
[06:16] <bob2> LokeDK: www-data is the user apache runs as; it should never ever have write permissions to /var/www/
[06:16] <sig> what are the purposes of backports? can someone explain?
[06:16] <Heimdall> HappyFool :oooooh he does not want france :)
[06:16] <bob2> LokeDK: if you really want a user to have write access to /var/www/, chown it to their user
[06:16] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm sorry? ;)
[06:16] <bob2> sig: to bring newer software to stable versions of ubuntu
[06:17] <sig> I see
[06:17] <mebaran151> thoreauputic, no
[06:17] <HappyFool> sig: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40291
[06:17] <mebaran151> I know THE MUPPETS
[06:17] <LokeDK> bob2, Yeah I know.. it's chowned to root:www-data as default.. so I could chown it to f.ex loke:www-data ?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> sig: backports are new apps that impatient people can't wait 6 months for ;)
[06:17] <sig> bob2: so I should add it
[06:17] <mebaran151> just on my irc list
[06:17] <mebaran151> I have two "muppets" listed
[06:17] <bob2> Maus: kill firefox, does "esddsp mozilla-firefox" start firefox and have sound for flash?
[06:17] <bob2> sig: no
[06:17] <reka> snadge: you can use vga=ask  or hardcode it with a value: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/livid-ati/2000-September/msg00206.html
[06:17] <sig> ?
[06:17] <bob2> LokeDK: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-04-25 17:17 /var/www
[06:17] <ompaul> thoreauputic, and to think that all this hacker culture started with the model railway club in MIT hehe
[06:17] <bob2> LokeDK: those are the defaults
[06:17] <Heimdall> sudo /usr/sbin/lmodmd --country=FRANCE /dev/slamr0
[06:17] <raiden24> I love Ubuntu
[06:17] <sig> bob2: no? why not?
[06:17] <hondje> ompaul: model railways? Really?
[06:17] <Heimdall> => bad country name :d
[06:17] <abbot45> can someone tell me how to install a .deb package?
[06:17] <sproingie> hacker culture predates computers
[06:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you need a code i think
[06:17] <bob2> sig: because they're buggy
[06:17] <LokeDK> bob2, oh.. so loke:users would be fine?
[06:18] <snadge> reka: i dont have permission to access that url :/
[06:18] <sig> oh ok
[06:18] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yet no-one has written such a program? tsk tsk
[06:18] <bob2> abbot45: what are you trying to install?
[06:18] <kbrooks> fr\
[06:18] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try slmodemd --countrylist
[06:18] <Heimdall> oh, in the example they write USA
[06:18] <LokeDK> and apache would still work..
[06:18] <bob2> LokeDK: loke:root, yes
[06:18] <ompaul> hondje, I am not barking mad, (pun intented) it did in deed
[06:18] <kbrooks> Heimdall, fr
[06:18] <reka> snadge: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:Si2iYQwIsjEJ:mail.linux-sxs.org/pipermail/linux-users/2002-September/038107.html+framebuffers+1024x768+vga%3Dask&hl=en
[06:18] <LokeDK> bob2, oh okay thanks.. I'll try that
[06:18] <kbrooks> try fr
[06:18] <Maus> bob2: command not found
[06:18] <bob2> LokeDK: apache doesn't care who owns that directory, as long as it is readable by all
[06:18] <ompaul> hondje, indeed even
[06:18] <abbot45> Pan.  the version bundled with ubuntu keeps crashing.
[06:18] <hondje> ompaul: go figure....that explains a lot though
[06:18] <bob2> Maus: install esound-clients
[06:18] <Heimdall> oh yeah, 3d
[06:18] <bob2> abbot45: did you file a bug yet?
[06:18] <Heimdall> thanks
[06:18] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try slmodemd --country=3d mayne?
[06:18] <abbot45> dont know how.  can you tell me?
[06:18] <hondje> ompaul: Maybe that's why 'hacker culture' doesn't emphasize math so much
[06:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: so this is more-or-less working?
[06:19] <LokeDK> bob2, Oh I see.. I can write to it now. Thanks for the help
[06:19] <Heimdall> sudo /usr/sbin/lmodmd --country=3d /dev/slamr0
[06:19] <bob2> LokeDK: np
[06:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: slmodemd, i think
[06:19] <HappyFool> /usr/sbin/slmodemd
[06:19] <Maus> bob2: ok, the command loaded firefox
[06:20] <Maus> bob2: without sound
[06:20] <bob2> hm, oh well
[06:20] <Heimdall> anyway, this is not so important I suppose ?
[06:20] <HappyFool> Heimdall: nah
[06:21] <HappyFool> Heimdall: so modprobe worked, and slmodemd is running?
[06:21] <Heimdall> ok so I'm in 3 section
[06:21] <LokeDK> Oh and one more question.. the php4 package in synaptic/apt-get requires some apache2 packages.. Does the package only work on apache2 then? I only want apache 1.3
[06:21] <TokenBad> ok i unmounted my drive
[06:21] <bob2> LokeDK: no, of course not
[06:21] <TokenBad> to maybe change who owns it
[06:21] <reka> abbot45: install the latest pan manually
[06:22] <Heimdall> modem slamr0 created TTy is /dev/pts/2
[06:22] <bob2> LokeDK: libapache-mod-php4 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)
[06:22] <Heimdall> use /dev/ttySL0 as modem device
[06:22] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, so try out your gnome network thingy again
[06:22] <HappyFool> Heimdall: maybe you can just start it and see if there's a 'click' sound, without plugging in the telephone cord
[06:22] <Heimdall> this is it ?
[06:23] <Heimdall> yes
[06:23] <LokeDK> bob2, oh cool.. so apache2-common and apache2-mpm-prefork isn't the whole apache2 server?
[06:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: this is it
[06:23] <LokeDK> as it requires
[06:23] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: Heimdall this slmodem thing sounds like a PITA to configure...
[06:23] <Heimdall> sorry, PITA ?
[06:23] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: yeah
[06:23] <iratsu> how do i find out what X display depth i'm running at and what graphics drivers i'm running with?
[06:23] <bob2> LokeDK: php doesn't care about either of those packages
[06:23] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: winmodems are a joy
[06:23] <HappyFool> heh
[06:23] <reka> abbot45: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[06:23] <HappyFool> pain in the arse ;)
[06:23] <thoreauputic> Heimdall: pain in the *ss
[06:24] <LokeDK> oh okay bob2 .. thanks a lot again
[06:24] <Heimdall> lol
[06:24] <Maus> bob2: killing esd again brings it back, what exactly did we install and why?
[06:24] <Heimdall> okay :-D
[06:24] <bob2> Maus: nevermind
[06:24] <hellfire> has someone installe Neverwinter Nights on Ubuntu
[06:24] <HappyFool> Heimdall's getting 8Mb adsl next week anyway :P
[06:24] <Heimdall> HappyFool :I have very bad thought
[06:25] <hellfire> copied a windows instalation
[06:25] <HappyFool> some of us are stuck with dial-up
[06:25] <iratsu> hellfire: wow my friend is just doing that right now
[06:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what's that?
[06:25] <hellfire> and did what was described in the bioware site
[06:25] <sproingie> how's NWN run on linux anyway?
[06:25] <bob2> Maus: esd = enlightened sound daemon = program which takes control of the sound card and brokers access to it
[06:25] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well ,with the previous driver, it was telling me too that the device was ttySL0
[06:25] <Ninwa> Last I heard WineX ran it great.
[06:25] <sproingie> i've always found NWN to have pretty poor framerates compared to most 3d games
[06:25] <hellfire> i get "segmentation fault " error
[06:25] <bob2> Maus: by killing it, non-esd-aware programs can use the sound card, but only one at a time
[06:26] <Heimdall> and I was puttin ttyS0
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes...
[06:26] <Heimdall> ....
[06:26] <Maus> bob2:  ahhh
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: doh
[06:26] <Heimdall> lol
[06:26] <Heimdall> it is not my fault entirely
[06:26] <thoreauputic> bob2: the irony of the name "enlightened sound daemon" strikes me all the time...
[06:26] <Frederick> how can I get mosml int ubuntu/
[06:26] <hellfire> does someone now how to fix that error
[06:26] <DunkMaster> helo
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that might explain the 'no carrier' ;)
[06:26] <bob2> hah
[06:26] <DunkMaster> question here
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i thought you were using /dev/modem ?
[06:26] <sproingie> i thought esd wasn't required when using the alsa mixer?
[06:26] <bob2> in 1997 or whatever, it seemed like a good idea
[06:26] <bob2> sproingie: when using dmix, correct
[06:26] <reka> iratsu: default depth can be found in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, (Section "Screen": DefaultDepth) same with the driver (Section "Device": Driver)
[06:27] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ah yes you're right
[06:27] <DunkMaster> what is a good and low on recources movie player avaliable on apt-get?
[06:27] <sproingie> bob2: so why do people continue to use esd?
[06:27] <Heimdall> and /dev/modem is pointing toward the correct device...
[06:27] <Ninwa> reka, Run xorconfig
[06:27] <Frederick> DunkMaster: xmms
[06:27] <Heimdall> so okay...
[06:27] <thoreauputic> sproingie: this is a good question
[06:27] <St0n3-C0l> my xorg is crashing ..
[06:27] <Ninwa> reka, and setup your xorg settings properly :)
[06:27] <bob2> sproingie: but that requires a) a sound card well supported by alsa, and b) everything to use alsa (any apps using the oss compatibility layer will lock the device to themselves completely)
[06:27] <DunkMaster> xmms plays movie files Frederic?
[06:27] <Ninwa> xorgconfig*
[06:27] <DunkMaster> *Frederick
[06:27] <reka> Ninwa: mine are fine.
[06:27] <sproingie> bob2: but wouldnt that be true whether or not esd is running?
[06:28] <St0n3-C0l> when I start it says not starting correctly...it was workin correctly before I installed gdm from breezy :P
[06:28] <hellfire> has someone managed to deal with the "segmentation fault" error in Neverwinter Nights
[06:28] <hellfire> ??
[06:28] <Ninwa> hellfire, That's a pretty vague question.
[06:28] <Frederick> DunkMaster: not sure, goggle and check their homepage
[06:28] <bob2> hellfire: if you're using cedega, #cedega
[06:28] <Heimdall> HappyFool :can I type ttySL0 ?
[06:28] <hellfire> no i`m not using cedega
[06:28] <DunkMaster> it isnt i just tried Frederick
[06:28] <snadge> reka: does ubuntu _have_ to use framebuffer console?
[06:28] <zimba-tm> hello
[06:28] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you mean, in the gnome setup?
[06:28] <bob2> sproingie: yeah, but most everything in ubuntu's supported section does esd
[06:28] <hellfire> i`m using the Linx client
[06:28] <snadge> i tried setting a normal vga text mode, and it ignores it
[06:28] <Heimdall> yes
[06:28] <HappyFool> Heimdall: /dev/ttySL0 should work
[06:28] <sproingie> bob2: well that's annoying
[06:28] <bob2> sproingie: also, esd works on more cards and dmix
[06:29] <linux_fan> hi can anyone help me?
[06:29] <bob2> sproingie: yes, and will be fixed for hoary
[06:29] <Heimdall> because the programm tells me that the symbolic link is /dev/pts/2
[06:29] <bob2> er, breezy
[06:29] <hellfire> i`ve done what was described in the bioware site
[06:29] <reka> snadge: ah, you don't want a wm?
[06:29] <bob2> linux_fan: you need to ask a question, first
[06:29] <sproingie> bob2: so esd can sit on top of alsa, essentially?
[06:29] <Ninwa> linux_fan, ask your question, dont ask to ask :]
[06:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: whatever slmodemd said when you started it
[06:29] <linux_fan> ok
[06:29] <sproingie> bob2: you mean breezy?
[06:29] <bob2> sproingie: yes
[06:29] <hellfire> but i get "segmentation erro" when trying to run the game
[06:29] <Heimdall> so I think this is ttySL0 or /dev/pts/2
[06:29] <bob2> hellfire: do you know anything about programming?
[06:29] <hellfire> no
[06:29] <bob2> (in C)
[06:29] <linux_fan> for some reason, i installed a program, and it doesn't show up in the applications menu
[06:29] <Heimdall> anyway, it don't detect the modem on his own
[06:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: don't use /dev/pts/2
[06:29] <Heimdall> ok
[06:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: use /dev/ttySL0
[06:29] <sproingie> hellfire: you mean segmentation fault.  that's a very generic error, it's like the Invalid Page Fault from win9x
[06:30] <reka> isn't quicktime available for linux?
[06:30] <Ninwa> hellfire, Are you certain you installed it correctly? Mayhaps you do not have all of the datafiles in the right place, and its segging because of that
[06:30] <reka> *why isn't
[06:30] <Ninwa> hellfire, but as they said, thats a pretty generic thing, you need to check the crash log
[06:30] <bob2> reka: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:30] <snadge> reka: X can use its own driver.. console should use text mode
[06:30] <bob2> reka: (it is)
[06:30] <unreal> ubuntu download at 84% :)
[06:30] <linux_fan> for some reason, i installed a program, and it doesn't show up in the applications menu
[06:30] <hellfire> i didn`t get any error messages or something similar...
[06:30] <Ninwa> linux_fan, Which application?
[06:30] <bob2> linux_fan: yes, that will happen
[06:30] <snadge> unreal, hoary hedgehog?
[06:30] <Maus> bob2:  Thanks for the help.
[06:30] <Heimdall> HappyFool : aaaaaah
[06:30] <Ninwa> linux_fan, try opening a terminal and typing its name, or creating a launcher on your launch panel
[06:30] <bob2> Maus: np
[06:30] <hellfire> i`ve read that this could be connected with the SDL library
[06:30] <unreal> snadge: forgot which nickname, but it's 5.04
[06:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: something wirking ?
[06:30] <linux_fan> i can open it in terminal
[06:30] <iratsu> reka: ok, thanks
[06:31] <Heimdall> HappyFool : good news
[06:31] <bob2> Maus: running it under esddsp should have forced it to shore the device
[06:31] <linux_fan> but how do i get it in the menu?
[06:31] <hellfire> they advised to get the latest version
[06:31] <Ninwa> linux_fan, right click on the lanucher panel and create a new launcher
[06:31] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no
[06:31] <Heimdall> BUT
[06:31] <reka> bob2: poorly worded ... why isn't quicktime player availale for linux?
[06:31] <snadge> unreal, yeah thats the one that im trying on my old compaq armada m700 laptop.. it kinda works ;)
[06:31] <linux_fan> ok
[06:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh
[06:31] <Heimdall> it tells me that it does not work
[06:31] <Ninwa> add to panel*
[06:31] <linux_fan> ok
[06:31] <hellfire> but i see only version 1.2.7 for ubuntu
[06:31] <bob2> reka: because apple didn't port it yet
[06:31] <Maus> bob2: but it went right back to how things were before killing
[06:31] <iratsu> how do i find out what graphics drivers i'm running with?
[06:31] <Ninwa> then custom
[06:31] <Heimdall> which is a kind of progress
[06:31] <bob2> Maus: which is odd, I don't know why
[06:31] <thoreauputic> reka: erm - ask Apple?
[06:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: erm, ok
[06:31] <Ninwa> and you should be able to figure it ou t:)
[06:31] <bob2> iratsu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:31] <linux_fan> yea
[06:31] <hellfire> whlie the latest version is 1.2.8
[06:31] <linux_fan> thank u
[06:31] <unreal> snadge: heh, the hardware in this machine hasn't had much luck with gentoo or debian.. so I decided to download ubuntu
[06:31] <Ninwa> you're welcome
[06:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you going to try plugging in your phone line and see what happens?
[06:31] <Heimdall> I think it could maybe be ok if I try with my phone line
[06:31] <Heimdall> yes
[06:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[06:32] <snadge> unreal, chances are.. it'll suck just as much ;)
[06:32] <Heimdall> at last
[06:32] <Heimdall> one real hope
[06:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good luck (again ;)
[06:32] <Heimdall> :)
[06:32] <Heimdall> yes
[06:32] <Heimdall> lol
[06:32] <Heimdall> brb (again :-D)
[06:32] <unreal> snadge: gentoo borks when trying to boot normally, and the debian partition manager just hangs there when checking for disks
[06:32] <unreal> heh
[06:32] <Maus> bob2: Know if anything relevant to this will be coming in Breezy?
[06:32] <unreal> probably, but at least I'll be able to try it on a machine that I know it'll work with :)
[06:32] <snadge> unreal, ouch.. what kind of a piece of crap are you running it on? :P
[06:32] <lpk> Hmm there was a trick for improving the sampling rate of a mouse
[06:32] <lpk> Does anyone remember?
[06:32] <reka> bob2, thoreauputic: i see.  it's just that i like how you can "scroll" video playback using the arrow keys. ah, well.
[06:32] <bob2> Maus: yes, it should all magically work in breezy (but doesn't yet)
[06:33] <bob2> reka: as in skip backwards and forwards?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> reka: you can do that ith linux players too...
[06:33] <reka> snadge: not sure ... i'm not an expert on that
[06:33] <Maus> bob2:  Really?  Good.  I want to be sure everything's working properly before I start installing Ubuntu for friends and family.
[06:33] <reka> thoreauputic: smoothly though? not in 5 second bursts
[06:33] <bob2> Maus: october it is then ;p
[06:33] <Maus> bob2: w00t
[06:33] <unreal> snadge: lol, wouldn't say it's crap, but it's one of those pre-built bundled machines that I got given.. it still has a warranty so I don't feel like ripping it apart yet
[06:33] <thoreauputic> reka: I haven't tried that, to be honest
[06:34] <Maus> bob2: thanks again
[06:34] <snadge> unreal: ahh yeah.. it'll have a bodgey partition table on it most likely
[06:34] <bob2> np
[06:34] <Frederick> how can I install mosml in ubuntu and FAST?
[06:34] <reka> bob2: well it's more sort of "play forwards" and "play backwards", rather than "skip"  which is what i would prefer.
[06:34] <unreal> snadge: nah, I wiped the drives entirely :)
[06:34] <snadge> unreal, if it came with a rescue disk.. i'd just blow everything away and repartition it
[06:34] <snadge> ahh k
[06:34] <unreal> heh
[06:34] <Frederick> Ive already tried to apt it but it says it has some missing deps
[06:35] <bob2> reka: meh, seems kinda minor; you could suggest ut to the mplayer people
[06:35] <unreal> at the moment i'm booting off the gentoo livecd, not the best way to download a large-ish ISO file :)
[06:35] <Converse> irc.cl
[06:35] <scott> I ran laptop-mode start and changed /etc/default/acpi-support to include sleep, but I still just see hibernate on my logout menu and when I close the lid it doesn't go to sleep
[06:35] <thoreauputic> reka: frankly I prefer vlc on OS-X to quicktime anyway - and it doesn't nag me to buy anything ;)
[06:35] <reka> bob2: not a fan of mplayer really... but enough of my grumbling
[06:35] <sproingie> thoreauputic: you're kidding, quicktime even nags you on OSX?
[06:35] <reka> thoreauputic: true. :-)
[06:35] <snadge> im booting ubuntu off dvd at the moment.. and using it as a very slow rescue disc to fix my debian installation ;)
[06:35] <Frederick> how can I install mosml in ubuntu and FAST?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> sproingie: yep - the one installed is nagware
[06:36] <reka> thoreauputic: i thought you get pro with the os?
[06:36] <bob2> Frederick: why don't you tell us what on earth "mosml" is?
[06:36] <unreal> snadge: heh, I'll be downloading that some other time, downloading at 46kb/s is bad enough right now :)
[06:36] <thoreauputic> reka: I didn't
[06:36] <sproingie> thoreauputic: amazing.  i thought that was just some sleazy thing they did for the windows version
[06:36] <snadge> unreal: I donwnloaded the dvd at about 12k/s :P
[06:36] <Frederick> bob2: http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~sestoft/mosml.html
[06:37] <sens> Can anyone help me install a gkrellm skin?
[06:37] <unreal> snadge: that's fine if you're wanting to get it installed by the end of the year :P
[06:37] <bob2> sens: it really had no instructions?
[06:37] <ompaul> thoreauputic, checked sourceforge.net (been a long time since I needed to do that) and found something
[06:37] <snadge> took about 4 days
[06:37] <thoreauputic> sproingie: well, I hardly ever use OS-X anyway except in mac-on-linux to play windows media occasionally
[06:37] <sens> bob2: I just can't find where to extract the files to
[06:37] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ah - model railways are not totally neglected then ? :)
[06:38] <rcec52> I was wondering why Ubuntu repository is slow to update Mozilla Firefox 1.4 as I understand 1.2 is supposed to be 1.4 with some program bugs?
[06:38] <bob2> rcec52: it's not "slow", it's not going to happen at all
[06:38] <rcec52> Whys that?
[06:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, almost not neglected I think I will have to build something for dia
[06:38] <thoreauputic> rcec52: the ubuntu version has all the security fixes
[06:38] <rem_> they correct the bugs, but dont update to 1.4 ..
[06:38] <bob2> rcec52: hoary is a stable release; it doesn't get new versions of software.  the fixes from 1.0.4 are in hoary's 1.0.2
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yes, dia is a good idea for it :)
[06:39] <reka> ompaul: i love dia
[06:39] <cory_> yay i finally got my gnomebaker to bake!
[06:39] <rcec52> You lost me. . .
[06:39] <styx2004> please tell me how to configure apache with mono-apache-server
[06:39] <bob2> rcec52: which bit of that was confusing?
[06:40] <Frederick> bob2: dis you see my link?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> rcec52: you are hung up on the version number: ubuntu's is updated
[06:40] <rcec52> If you use the version that you download with the repositories, you can't add Mozilla extensions.
[06:40] <bob2> Frederick: yes; try asking on their mailing list, I guess, or install from their binary tarballs.
[06:40] <thoreauputic> rcec52: it just retains the number
[06:40] <bob2> rcec52: yes, it sucks that mozilla have made things like that
[06:40] <reka> rcec52: that's a bug
[06:40] <bionic> safe to put in a pci soundcard while the machine is still running? :p
[06:40] <unreal> heh
[06:40] <abbot45> rcec52, there was a bad vonurability in 1.4 so ubuntu backported to 1.2 but included all the bug fixes from 1.4
[06:40] <rcec52> I've installed 1.04 with all the extensions and it works . . . .
[06:40] <unreal> safe to chop off your leg while you're still alive? ;)
[06:41] <thoreauputic> rcec52: go to about:config, search for vendor string and edit to 1.0.4
[06:41] <reka> rcec52: you have to change vendorSub in about:config iirc
[06:41] <flodine> anyone know how to change aterm font size
[06:41] <jbroome> just once
[06:41] <Frederick> bob2: ive added the repos her
[06:41] <bob2> Frederick: which is broken.  get rid of it.
[06:41] <sproingie> ubuntu's handling of firefox version numbers is ... unique
[06:41] <sproingie> that's the kindest thing i can say about it
[06:41] <Frederick> bob2: but apt is beeing gay and complaining
[06:41] <Frederick> bob2: the dep is broken
[06:41] <rcec52> Anyone here have more than 1 os installed?
[06:42] <sproingie> Frederick: so find apt a partner, maybe he can go live with aptitude
[06:42] <Frederick> rcec52: I do
[06:42] <unreal> 25mins to go until I find Ubuntu borks for me too :P
[06:42] <bob2> Frederick: a) try to act like an adult, b) that means you can't install from it
[06:42] <thoreauputic> rcec52: of course
[06:42] <bob2> Frederick: so go get the tarball and install from that
[06:42] <sproingie> what the fuck is it that a supposedly intellectual community uses "gay" as an insult
[06:42] <bob2> sproingie: what else could ubuntu do?
[06:42] <hondje> sproingie: I don't know, but I agree it's wrong
[06:42] <rcec52> Maybe I'm crazy but I've got Mepis on one drive and Kubuntu on another? Doesn't make sense does it?
[06:42] <hondje> Why not say 'omg, _____ is so female' too
[06:42] <Frederick> sproingie: oh sorry
[06:43] <Frederick> sproingie: im in a hurry
[06:43] <St0n3-C0l> Please respect Code OF Conduct of Ubuntu Linux :>
[06:43] <HappyFool> sproingie: how can a supposedly intellectual person judge a community by an individual ? ;)
[06:43] <St0n3-C0l> Someone said me once...now im saying u guys :P
[06:43] <sproingie> HappyFool: i see it over and over
[06:43] <Frederick> HappyFool: point taken
[06:43] <bob2> sproingie: ubutnu has unfortunately attracted a large pre-teen contingent
[06:43] <unreal> snadge: you still around? :)
[06:43] <sproingie> bob2: i suppose that's true for the whole geek/hacker culture as well
[06:43] <iratsu> what's the difference between restricted and multiverse?
[06:44] <rcec52> Anyone here good at programing?
[06:44] <snadge> unreal: yes
[06:44] <sproingie> rcec52: some of us like to think so
[06:44] <unreal> heh
[06:44] <rcec52> What are you using?
[06:44] <unreal> you have any idea why ubuntu 5.04 was given a name similair to prostitute?
[06:44] <bob2> iratsu: restricted is just drivers, basically
[06:44] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[06:44] <HappyFool> heh
[06:44] <bob2> unreal: #lame-trolls, kthxbye
[06:44] <iratsu> bob2: ah, ok
[06:44] <unreal> bob2: is that your channel? :)
[06:44] <bob2> iratsu: but it does get "support"
[06:44] <sproingie> unreal: c'mon, hoary ... read your hp lovecraft
[06:45] <bob2> haha
[06:45] <Jester> Does anyone know of a debian-based installation cd or distribution that includes dmraid ? (to support bios based software raids such as nforce3)
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> where can i find installation help for ubunntu
[06:45] <rcec52> Breezy comes out in October?
[06:45] <sens> Extraction not performed You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/share/themes/AgingGorilla/metacity-1"   How do I extract it through the terminal?
[06:45] <bob2> rcec52: yes
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> where can i find installation help for ubuntu*
[06:45] <bob2> ThE__OnE: by asking politely here
[06:45] <snadge> unreal, thats a good question.. i'd like to know that too.. apart from it really does suck on my laptop
[06:45] <rcec52> What will it include?
[06:45] <unreal> lol
[06:45] <HappyFool> sproingie: maybe 6.04 will be the 'Cuddly Cthulhu' (err, spelling?) release!
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> i did ask politely
[06:45] <scott> anyone know what file you have to setuid to be able to change clock speed as normal user with gnome applet?
[06:45] <thoreauputic> unreal: dict hoary
[06:45] <bob2> ThE__OnE: you haven't asked a question yet...
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> yes i have
[06:45] <sproingie> HappyFool: you spelled it right.  great idea :)
[06:45] <unreal> it's a nice name though, never thought a hedgehog could be a whore though, too prickly for my liking :)
[06:46] <snadge> unreal, it should be called "hoary slapper"
[06:46] <bob2> rcec52: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals
[06:46] <snadge> :P
[06:46] <reka> sens: use sudo.  you normally don't have write permission for any folders other than the ones in ~/
[06:46] <bob2> ThE__OnE: and what did you ask?
[06:46] <sproingie> still, pronouncing "hoary" out loud makes most people think of a different word
[06:46] <sproingie> not too literate, folk these days
[06:46] <ThE__OnE> can someone please tell me where(website)i can find help instaling, i dont have a specific question because i have'nt installed ubuntu as of yet
[06:46] <rcec52> Thanks bob2
[06:46] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: right HERE
[06:46] <bob2> ThE__OnE: you can ask for help here
[06:46] <sens> reka: sorry, i only installed 2 weeks ago and after 15 years of windows i'm not too good, i know the sudo, you generally put it in front of everything, but what would i have to type exactly?
[06:46] <hondje> sproingie: That's for the 12-15 demographic :)
[06:46] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: you can also try ubuntu forums
[06:47] <ThE__OnE> hmm i cant come here when iam instaling
[06:47] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[06:47] <Zunino> Hi there. Does anybody here deal with typing a latin language on a US-layout keyboard?
[06:47] <ThE__OnE> lol
[06:47] <erb> hello
[06:47] <rcec52> Anybody have problems installing Adobe reader7.0?
[06:47] <reka> sens: easy option: sudo nautilus
[06:47] <sens> ok
[06:47] <reka> sens: otherwise, i'd have to know what kind or archive file it is
[06:47] <Frederick> bob2: im trying the tarball
[06:47] <sens> reka: thanks
[06:47] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: i used to come to the channel when installing all the time.  you going to say you can surf the forums when installing?
[06:47] <Zunino> I have got it working for the most part. The real issue is with typing a ''
[06:47] <reka> *kind of
[06:48] <thoreauputic> rcec52: no, because I didn't install it on the principle that Adobe sucks as a company
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> i dont have 2 pc's
[06:48] <reka> sens: hang on
[06:48] <reka> sens: you can install themes by dragging the file to the theme box iirc
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> nvm, i will search online
[06:48] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: the installer does not have a built-in web browser that i'm aware of.  i did it with many a reboot on a dual-boot system
[06:48] <reka> sens: archives included
[06:48] <reka> sens: non need to extract it
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> does that mean i haev to do that?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> time to sleep - 'night all
[06:48] <bob2> good idea
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> gnite
[06:48] <rcec52> That's not an answer I was expecting I guess . . .
[06:48] <Zunino> US layout with dead keys, anyone?
[06:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : :'(
[06:49] <veronica> can anyone here help me with a raid issue?
[06:49] <snadge> how do i boot ubuntu in console mode only?
[06:49] <snadge> like a rescue disk mode.. without X
[06:49] <reka> rcec52: hehe.  what's wrong with xpdf?
[06:49] <unreal> sproingie: what's the best way to trim nose hair?
[06:49] <unreal> heh, jk ;)
[06:49] <digao> hey, how can i add new items to the ubuntu menu?
[06:49] <bob2> rcec52: if your real question was "I'm having problem foo bar baz when installing Acrbate 7.0...", best to just ask that upfront
[06:49] <sproingie> unreal: blowtorch.  it'll never bother you again
[06:49] <unreal> lol
[06:49] <rcec52> Sorry for asking. . .
[06:49] <reka> digao: google smeg
[06:50] <sproingie> seriously, don't get too close to a propane torch when you have the sniffles.
[06:50] <sproingie> one good sniffff and ... ow
[06:50] <sproingie> clears ya right up tho
[06:50] <Razor-X> ;)
[06:50] <Razor-X> Jumping Jacks do too
[06:51] <sens> reka: how do i do that, you may as well be speaking swahili I don't understand :P
[06:51] <Seveas> snadge, choose recovery mode from the boot menu
[06:51] <snadge> seveas: what recovery mode
[06:51] <reka> sens: sys->prefs->themes
[06:52] <reka> sens: and then, iirc, just drag the .gz file to the box
[06:52] <Seveas> snadge, when you boot, you get a menu. You can choose recovery mode there. If you do not get a menu edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root and increase the value for timeout
[06:52] <snadge> Seveas, i have a menu.. its the dvd version of hoary
[06:52] <snadge> from the help screens i just cant figure out what option to use
[06:52] <Seveas> ah, ok. I thought you ment an installed system
[06:52] <Seveas> meant*
[06:52] <nalioth> reka ya teaching foreign languages now?
[06:53] <snadge> Seveas, no.. installed system is borked, i want to recover data off it
[06:53] <sens> reka: Do you mean I can just load up to sudo nauticus and drag the file over?
[06:53] <reka> nalioth: only swahili
[06:53] <digao> reka, ill look for it thanks
[06:53] <reka> sens: don't even need to use sudo
[06:53] <Frederick> does ubuntu has bzip vy default?
[06:53] <snadge> and the live version.. is also borked, keeps crashing .. display doesnt work correctly ;)
[06:53] <sens> reka: gottit i think
[06:53] <Seveas> snadge, I have no experience with the live dvd, but if there is a menu that says "single" or "recovery mode" you can use that to not go to X
[06:53] <unreal> snadge: you could just mount the disk and copy it elsewhere? :)
[06:53] <reka> sens: it worked?
[06:53] <snadge> unreal: its in a laptop
[06:54] <unreal> copy 1mb chunks to a floppy disk? :/
[06:54] <sens> reka: nope
[06:54] <sens> I went to: usr/share/themes created a file called milk and extracted it all to there
[06:55] <sens> reka: but then i go to gkrellm and change themes and it doesn't come up
[06:55] <snadge> im hoping it accepts "single" as a boot option
[06:55] <snadge> and doesnt try to boot into X
[06:55] <reka> sens: ah, gkrellm themes?  i thought you were talking about gnome
[06:56] <unreal> snadge: if all else fails, you could try another livecd (the gentoo one is pretty decent from my experience) and upload the data somewhere
[06:56] <crimsun> Frederick: yes.
[06:56] <sens> nono, gkrellm themes
[06:56] <snadge> unreal: i have some boot floppies
[06:57] <reka> sens: why didn't you say so? :-P http://www.dersoldat.org/gkrellm.php
[06:57] <reka> follow that.
[06:57] <pfp> Fabian: lo, how're things?
[06:57] <pnpa_> i tried to install Ubuntu in my Gateway/server. This gateway is connected to LAN with a 20+ clients. What is the best way/tool to share/broadcast the Internet connection of this Gateway? That will automatically assign an IP address to clients.
[06:57] <snadge> rescue linux or something
[06:57] <Frederick> crimsun: doesnt looks like thou
[06:57] <HappyFool> Heimdall: success?
[06:58] <crimsun> Frederick: erm, dpkg -l libbz2-1.0|grep ^ii
[06:58] <pfp> pnpa_: you probably want dhcpd, and some iptables rules
[06:58] <crimsun> Frederick: are you trying to compile something that requires bzip2?
[06:58] <sens> reka: I did :P
[06:58] <pnpa_> pfp, how to do that ? it was just my first time to install and seen Linux
[06:58] <crimsun> Frederick: if so, you need to install libbz2-dev
[06:59] <reka> sens: and?
[06:59] <Frederick> crimsun: tryin to unzip a package
[06:59] <sens> reka: what does ~/.gkrellm2/themes directory mean
[06:59] <reka> sens: ~ is your home directory
[06:59] <crimsun> Frederick: unzip or bunzip2?
[06:59] <sens> the ~/.gkrellm2?
[06:59] <LinuxJones> pnpa_, maybe you would be better off with a Linux distribution that is designed for such a purpose like Smoothwall
[06:59] <sens> reka: ok
[06:59] <Frederick> crimsun: unzip
[06:59] <snadge> BG Rescue linux
[07:00] <crimsun> Frederick: then install unzip.
[07:00] <crimsun> Frederick: unzip != bunzip2
[07:00] <sproingie> Smoothwall++
[07:00] <sens> reka: if i go to home, there isn't a file called .gkrellm2 or a folder
[07:00] <LinuxJones> pnpa_, it has a nice gui for configuration >> http://www.smoothwall.org/about/screenshots/
[07:01] <reka> sens: type ls -a and look for a gkrellm directory
[07:01] <pfp> pnpa_: do an 'sudo apt-get install dhcpd', the default configuration has handy examples (are you familiar with dhcp?)
[07:01] <pnpa_> LinuxJones, u mean i have to uninstall this Ubuntu ?
[07:01] <pnpa_> pfp, in Windows
[07:01] <sens> nothing, it just comes up with my username
[07:01] <pfp> pnpa_: windows?
[07:01] <sens> reka: nothing it just comes up with my username
[07:02] <reka> sens: type cd ~
[07:02] <reka> then do ls -a
[07:02] <pnpa_> i only know about dhcp in Windows
[07:02] <sens> found it
[07:02] <LinuxJones> pnpa_, well it would be much easier than setting up all of the services you need manually using Ubuntu.
[07:02] <reka> sens: what's it called?
[07:03] <sens> well there's a -gkrellm2
[07:03] <pfp> pnpa_: there are also firewall distros that boot from a cd and can keep their configuration on a floppy, so you don't need to install anything... but nothing wrong with using ubuntu imho
[07:03] <sens> reka: there's a -gkrellm2
[07:03] <pfp> pnpa_: ach, k
[07:03] <reka> sens: try putting ~/-gkrellm2 in the nautilus address bar
[07:04] <sens> reka: it doesn't have an address bar
[07:04] <veronica> can anyone here help me with a raid issue?
[07:04] <reka> sens: right click on a directory and then select browse
[07:04] <Shish> Is there a GUI app that lets you run a single program in a different locale?
[07:05] <sens> reka: Couldn't find "/root/-gkrellm2".
[07:05] <Razor-X> Shish: you mean, different language?
[07:05] <Razor-X> veronica: shoot
[07:05] <reka> sens: cause you used sudo
[07:05] <digao> reka, you know a repository with the smeg package? i didn't find it in the www.apt-get.org, thanks
[07:05] <HansZ> hmm.. I just wanted to compile mplayer, however it says: 'bitypes.h not found see...FAQ (nothing in the faq about that)'
[07:06] <reka> sens: type /home/<username>/-gkrellm2
[07:06] <Heimdall> HappyFool : sorry, phone
[07:06] <Razor-X> digao: sudo apt-cache search smeg
[07:06] <Heimdall> no.... it has failed
[07:06] <reka> digao, Razor-X : it's not in there iirc
[07:06] <Shish> Yes~ When logging in with GDM I can select a language for all of GNOME to use, but I'd rather log in in english then have specific apps in other languages
[07:06] <reka> need to install it manually
[07:06] <HansZ> Is there a ubuntu mplayer package?
[07:07] <Exodus> Hello, can anyone tell me where is the ubuntu cd distribution located?
[07:07] <Razor-X> then, download and compile ;)
[07:07] <Razor-X> Shish: not sure how, sorry
[07:07] <lpk> what is fbmmx.o?
[07:07] <Razor-X> Exodus: they give you links on the site
[07:07] <lpk> my x cries about missing symbols
[07:07] <Heimdall> HappyFool : and worst, i have uninstall, make clean, and do ti again
[07:07] <sens> reka: same message
[07:07] <digao> Razor-X, reka, yeah, i didn't find the smeg in the apt-cache too
[07:07] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[07:07] <Heimdall> HappyFool : but it does not want to do 'modprobe slamr' anymore
[07:07] <Razor-X> lpk: not sure meself, google it
[07:07] <Exodus> Razor-X, i mean physical location
[07:07] <lpk> Pain in the ass googling with a elinks
[07:07] <Razor-X> digao: download a binary .deb, or download source and compile
[07:07] <Razor-X> Exodus: locate fbmmx.o
[07:07] <bob2> HansZ: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (yes)
[07:07] <Exodus> I live in Venezuela, i'd like to know around how long would it take for the cd's to arrive.
[07:07] <bob2> Exodus: when did you order?
[07:07] <Razor-X> and if it's not there, try sudo updatedb
[07:07] <Exodus> just now.
[07:08] <Razor-X> and then try locate again
[07:08] <reka> sens: close nautilus, then places->home
[07:08] <sens> reka: I found it man
[07:08] <bob2> Exodus: give it a few weeks
[07:08] <Exodus> Venezuela (south america) :P
[07:08] <unreal> 18:07:11 (49.48 KB/s) - `ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso' saved [615307264/615307264]  <-- :)
[07:08] <reka> ah, ok
[07:08] <sens> reka: found the themes directory
[07:08] <Exodus> more then a month?
[07:08] <sens> when i went to it in nautilus i didn't put the ~ at the stary
[07:08] <reka> sens: cool, you can handle the rest then.
[07:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm
[07:08] <HappyFool> what error do you get?
[07:08] <HansZ> bob2: doesn't help me
[07:09] <sens> reka: hopefully, i'll come back here if i can't :P
[07:09] <bob2> HansZ: except that it does
[07:09] <HansZ> bob2: except it does
[07:09] <reka> sens: no worries
[07:09] <bionic> Is it possible to get sound from two soundcards when i have headphones in just one of them? :)
[07:09] <Exodus> Razor-X, bob2, thanks for answering my questions. :)
[07:10] <HansZ> bionic: yea
[07:10] <digao> Razor-X, i found this in the ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183 there is a link to a debian package for smeg. thanks
[07:10] <jbroome> what an unfortunate package name
[07:10] <bionic> HansZ, how? They are both enabled now, the one the headphones are in is using /dev/dsp, the other /dev/dsp1, but when i run xmms on dsp1 i get no sound in the headphones
[07:11] <HansZ> bionic: hm.. have u unmuted dsp1
[07:11] <hughsie> Anyone want to ask questions about gnome-power-manager? I'm the dev.
[07:11] <verveeld> i'm back. Anyone watch the SA v France rugby?
[07:12] <verveeld> I'm busy waiting for ubuntu to finish installing on my laptop
[07:12] <kong0> can anybody pls help this poor linux newbie on where to get a good site for linux warez?
[07:12] <HappyFool> heh
[07:12] <bionic> HansZ, yeah its not muted, doesnt show it in volum controls at least
[07:12] <sens> how do i edit what loads up in the startup of linux?
[07:12] <HappyFool> linux warez?
[07:12] <jbroome> hahahahaha
[07:12] <jbroome> hahaha
[07:12] <HappyFool> try synaptic
[07:12] <HappyFool> System -> Adminstration -> Synaptic
[07:12] <HappyFool> lots of warez there
[07:12] <jbroome> it's right next to the linux spyware cleaners and virus scanners
[07:12] <sens> lol
[07:12] <verveeld> jbroome: lol
[07:12] <ompaul> jbroome, now you are joking
[07:12] <synd> hey guys, got a nicecast running. electronic music: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/playlist.pls
[07:12] <reka> HappyFool: no warez distribution please. :-P
[07:13] <nalioth> jbroome: yes, it does raise some eyebrows (re pkg name)
[07:13] <kong0> hmm something tells me i didnt give a good inpression...
[07:13] <ompaul> you kill me you do
[07:13] <HappyFool> reka: this is 1337 l3g4l warez
[07:13] <nalioth> kong0: linux warez? linux software is mostly free, or open-source
[07:13] <verveeld> My Ubuntu installation is on Configuring apt 75%, testing security update repository... its taking quite a while... is this normal
[07:13] <kong0> not thoose server os from suse and red hat
[07:14] <HappyFool> kong0: seriously, there's lots of applications available to install from synaptic
[07:14] <ompaul> kong0, fire up synaptic and you will get all the useful programs you can ever need (except for railways but it appears I may be working on that)
[07:14] <kong0> ok where were synaptic?
[07:14] <sens> synd: I would listen toy our music but i get this error message: There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg.
[07:14] <HappyFool> System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[07:14] <ompaul> system - administration - syanptic
[07:15] <kong0> thx man
[07:15] <synd> sens: hmm
[07:15] <lambert> re hello
[07:15] <sens> synd: I can listen to the other radio station that's already on there
[07:15] <kong0> i installed ubuntu on this laptop o' mine bout one hour ago...
[07:16] <ompaul> kong0, enjoy
[07:16] <kong0> hehe
[07:16] <waseem> is anyone else having problems getting the update for gaim?
[07:16] <bionic> HansZ, you know what the problem may be?
[07:16] <lambert> pouvez vous me donner l l'URL de chat de ubuntu .fr?s'il vous palit
[07:16] <reka> lambert: #ubuntu-fr
[07:17] <lambert> merci
[07:17] <synd> sens: ive got a couple listeners.. it seems to work for them..
[07:17] <lambert> goodbye
[07:17] <sens> synd: maybe it's just me then :P I'm a linux n00b
[07:17] <kong0> did u guys get azureus going?
[07:18] <reka> waseem: what problems?
[07:18] <kong0> i didnt even understand how to install it...
[07:18] <ompaul> kong0, why when we have native bittorrent
[07:18] <nalioth> kong0: you need java
[07:18] <nalioth> !Java
[07:18] <ubotu> hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[07:18] <waseem> reka: i tried to do apt-get install gaim and its telling me that it couldnt get the stat source package list from ftp.nerim.net/blahbbalfdhh
[07:18] <kong0> hmm im not familiar with native...
[07:19] <kong0> i know and i couldnt install jawa
[07:19] <unreal> would anyone here have the cdrecord source by any chance?
[07:19] <ompaul> kong0, there is a bittorrent client already on the machine
[07:19] <waseem> reka: i never get the update in the update manager so i thought i would have to do it manually
[07:19] <microhaxo> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!
[07:19] <nalioth> unreal: its not avalable at jeorgs page?
[07:19] <kong0> native huh... is it as good as bittornado or?
[07:19] <microhaxo> IM CONVINCED THAT LINUX IS DESTROYING MY WINDOWS!
[07:19] <unreal> nalioth: jerog is the creator of it?
[07:20] <unreal> er, jeorg even
[07:20] <thr1ce> linux won't touch your windows unless you tell it to
[07:20] <sens> how do I edit what loads up on the startup of ubuntu?
[07:20] <microhaxo> I go to boot up windows on a SEPERATE HD and it says THAT THE DAMN winlogin.exe cannot be found all these fkin dlls not found
[07:20] <reka> microhaxo: at least your doors are ok.
[07:20] <nalioth> unreal: thought jeorg schilling was the author (google cdrecord homepage)
[07:20] <microhaxo> that shit dont happen by its self..
[07:20] <ompaul> microhaxo so is bill gates
[07:20] <kong0> hmm i dont know...the grudge between linux and windows is greater...kidding*
[07:20] <unreal> heh
[07:20] <thr1ce> microhaxo, yes, it does happen by yourself; you probably did something
[07:20] <microhaxo> Bs
[07:20] <microhaxo> what could i have done
[07:20] <verveeld> ok install finished. yest!
[07:20] <thr1ce> you tell us
[07:20] <verveeld> yes
[07:21] <jbroome> boot loader problem?
[07:21] <microhaxo> i have been runnin linux only
[07:21] <microhaxo> for days
[07:21] <DagaZ> how do I put a pause in a bashscript?
[07:21] <microhaxo> and i booted to windows this mornin
[07:21] <reka> waseem: i'm not familiar with gaim, but are you sure there is a package for the latest one in the repos?
[07:21] <microhaxo> played CSS
[07:21] <microhaxo> and booted back to linux
[07:21] <microhaxo> and now i want to play CSS again
[07:21] <microhaxo> windows cannot load
[07:21] <microhaxo> cant find winlogin.exe
[07:21] <microhaxo> and a shitload of DLLS
[07:21] <microhaxo> im pissed
[07:21] <thr1ce> linux won't touch that HDD unless you do it yourself
[07:21] <sens> microhaxo: can you not put in your windows cd and do a repair?
[07:21] <unreal> nalioth: ty though :)
[07:21] <microhaxo> I DONT HAVE WINDOWS CD NE MORE
[07:21] <jbroome> i'd blame steam before i blamed linux. :)
[07:21] <TokenBad> hondje, I got my upload problems fix..people can upload now..and they can't leave their home dirs
[07:22] <TokenBad> and they can resume files to
[07:22] <sens> microhaxo: even the warzed copies have a repair you know
[07:22] <thr1ce> mmm...I suspect pirated windows
[07:22] <hondje> TokenBad: awesome :)
[07:22] <microhaxo> i dont have warez
[07:22] <microhaxo> haha
[07:22] <microhaxo> its not pirated
[07:22] <microhaxo> i have my cdkey and all
[07:22] <microhaxo> oem windows
[07:22] <thr1ce> and you got rid of the CD ?
[07:22] <microhaxo> but the cd is cracked
[07:22] <sens> microhaxo: sure you don't, in that case, may I ask where your windows cd is?
[07:22] <TokenBad> yeah finally
[07:22] <microhaxo> ITS CRACKED
[07:22] <jbroome> yarrr matey, yee windows 'tus fux0rd
[07:22] <microhaxo> got it in 2001
[07:22] <microhaxo> ARG
[07:23] <sens> lol @ jbroome
[07:23] <kong0> whats the windoes program emu named? genges or sumthin...?
[07:23] <thr1ce> maybe downloading another...?
[07:23] <kong0> its like wine but better...
[07:23] <sens> microhaxo: maybe it's time you became a pirate and downloaded yourself another copy so you can do a repair, it's the only way you're going to fix it
[07:23] <HansZ> can someone help me downgrading gcc?
[07:24] <nalioth> microhaxo: as long as you have a license, you can have as many CDs as you like
[07:25] <sens> @ nalioth, they're not even sure on that anymore, you can't backup cd's anymore
[07:25] <HappyFool> kong0: you mean maybe cedega?
[07:26] <kong0> cedega yeah that must be the one
[07:26] <LokeDK> Why is there a /etc/init.d/apache2 when i use /etc/init.d/apache ..?
[07:26] <kong0> can i get cedega in synaptic?
[07:26] <ekCo> i cant compile anything
[07:26] <nalioth> kong0 cedega is payware
[07:26] <ekCo> it says install has nothing to do
[07:26] <ekCo> etc
[07:26] <nalioth> ekCo: install 'build-essential'
[07:26] <kong0> and another question... is kde good?
[07:27] <kong0> u mean it? i have to pay?
[07:27] <nalioth> kong0: "is kde good?" is chevrolet good?
[07:27] <jbroome> those BASTARDS!
[07:27] <thr1ce> kong0, lol, that's purely a matter of opinion
[07:27] <jbroome> nalioth: kde: yes.  Chevy: no. :)
[07:27] <kong0> well chevrolet IS good...
[07:27] <ekCo> nalioth, ??? what do you mean?
[07:27] <thr1ce> kong0, it depends who you ask
[07:27] <kong0> depends on how u look at it..
[07:27] <thr1ce> kong0, they have more releases than gnome, so many like that
[07:28] <kong0> well well, gnome is easy so i'll just stick to that
[07:28] <thr1ce> but, you'll run into bugs occassionally
[07:28] <ompaul> thr1ce, just less often than some other platforms, so it just seems to be worse when you find one :)
[07:28] <nalioth> ekCo: do you have gcc and other development pkgs installed?
[07:29] <ekCo> think so
[07:29] <CANDY_Y> hallo everyone;)
[07:29] <HappyFool> ekCo: if make says 'nothing to do' it usually means its already done it, afaik
[07:30] <kong0> wich is the best media player then?
[07:30] <ekCo> lol this is the first time trying
[07:30] <reka> kong0: what car is the best?
[07:30] <Tomcat_> kong0: xine and mplayer
[07:30] <kong0> hmm depends on wether u have enough money to buy fuel...
[07:31] <Tomcat_> kong0: But reka is right, it depends on your needs... I use totem although it has not many features, but I like the simplicity.
[07:31] <sens> why do i keep getting unexpected end of streams when i'm listening tothe radio?
[07:31] <mactiny> well, there are good cars and then there are bad cars
[07:31] <ekCo> nalioth, make: Nothing to be done for `INSTALL'.
[07:31] <kong0> k...
[07:31] <ekCo> etc etc
[07:31] <ompaul> kong0, and I use xmms - but that is because I have choice
[07:31] <nalioth> ekCo: what exactly are you trying to install?
[07:31] <kong0> i use xmms for music
[07:32] <Tomcat_> kong0: It's all free software, so just test everything out for a while. :)
[07:32] <nalioth> ekCo: and how are you going about it?
[07:32] <ezuser> Hey Everyone
[07:32] <nalioth> pfp: don't waste your time on that gnome-waste-bittorrent
[07:32] <kong0> theres to much...
[07:32] <kong0> im shutting down synaptic...
[07:32] <ekCo> logitech applet
[07:32] <reka> kong0: listen to Tomcat_.  we can recommend stuff, but we can't tell you which is the best b/c we all have dfferent opinions.
[07:32] <Tomcat_> pfp: Azureus is really the way to go. :o
[07:33] <jeroen_> Tomcat_, no, it uses Java
[07:33] <pfp> nalioth: yep, back to azurus (once i'll fix my java installation)
[07:33] <nalioth> !Java
[07:33] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[07:33] <ekCo> nalioth, ./configure --prefix=/usr, then make
[07:33] <Tomcat_> jeroen_: Yeah but my new system is fast enough to handle it... makes no difference if it's running or not.
[07:33] <ekCo> but make does nothing, the same with make install
[07:33] <ekCo> nothing is regged
[07:33] <nalioth> ekCo: some programs don't work like that (from source)
[07:33] <nalioth> ekCo: did you read the readme?
[07:34] <kong0> how do u see how much RAM im using? i can see cpu...
[07:34] <jeroen_> Tomcat_, Java is non-free, that's the point. It's called the Java trap. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
[07:34] <thr1ce> free
[07:34] <thr1ce> run free
[07:34] <reka> kong0: top
[07:34] <Tomcat_> kong0:  Apps => System => System monitor
[07:34] <thr1ce> or vmstat
[07:34] <ompaul> kong0, use the command free
[07:34] <ekCo> yes
[07:34] <thr1ce> or top
[07:34] <ekCo> it says nothing
[07:34] <pfp> yeah, java is annoying, but azureus seems still the best client for linux
[07:34] <ekCo> just what mouses it covers etc
[07:34] <ekCo> so/
[07:34] <ompaul> kong0, use the command top / vmstat ohh look choices :)
[07:34] <Tomcat_> jeroen_: Oh you were referring to that... yeah it's not the best way indeed, but I have to develop on Java anyway.
[07:34] <ekCo> what can i do
[07:34] <ekCo> ?
[07:34] <kong0> ahh man i dont even know where to type in the commands
[07:35] <ompaul> kong0, so we show you
[07:35] <nalioth> ekCo: read the readme that comes with and maybe the INSTALL
[07:35] <sens> where do i edit what loads up on startup?
[07:35] <TokenBad> how know how much free space is per mounted drive?
[07:35] <Tomcat_> TokenBad: "df"
[07:35] <eyequeue> kong0:  applications > system tools > terminal
[07:35] <pfp> TokenBad: df -h
[07:35] <thr1ce> df -m
[07:35] <nalioth> ekCo: what EXACTLY are you trying to do?
[07:35] <kong0> ompaul: hwat do u mean?
[07:35] <thr1ce> well, you need to find a terminal
[07:35] <TokenBad> thanks
[07:36] <thr1ce> applications, system, terminal
[07:36] <ekCo> compile and install logitech_applet
[07:36] <ompaul> kong0,  applications - system tools - terminal <-- this is where you type commands
[07:36] <ekCo> :)
[07:36] <ezuser> I've just installed 5.04 on my laptop. Whenever I startup or shutdown the system the whole screen goes to a variety of colours.  I guessing this is when X is starting/stopping but does anyone have any ideas what is causing this or how to fix it. TIA
[07:36] <Tomcat_> ekCo: That was pretty easy for me... just make, make install I think.
[07:36] <unreal> lol
[07:36] <unreal> not good, I have the gentoo livecd in my dvdrw drive, and can't eject it :P
[07:36] <kong0> aight ompaul
[07:36] <mark__> hi all, I've just installed the new 1.0.4 firefox in Ubuntu. (Ran the installer) but now I can't middle click to close tabs, anyone know why?
[07:36] <thr1ce> unreal, eject /dev/hdXX
[07:37] <X7C> anyone knows about DLINK wifi pci card support on ubuntu?
[07:37] <ekCo> thats what i've done tomcat
[07:37] <ekCo> and nothing happens
[07:37] <X7C> will the thingie work?
[07:37] <thr1ce> umount /dev/hdXX
[07:37] <eyequeue> unreal:  umount it
[07:37] <reka> mark__: dd you set it in prefs?
[07:37] <ompaul> kong0, some commands should only be run by root - the 'superuser' to do this on the same menu you can choose 'root terminal' however stay away from that until you have a bit of experiance - you can break the system pretty badly there if you make a mistake
[07:37] <microhaxo> Ok
[07:37] <microhaxo> officially
[07:37] <microhaxo> this is pissing me off
[07:37] <kong0> man...i didnt think ubuntu would use so much ram..
[07:37] <Tomcat_> ekCo: I'd go through the unpacking and compiling process with you, but I'm on the run. I think others can help you, it's easy to compile.
[07:37] <microhaxo> windows is FCKED!
[07:37] <thr1ce> microhaxo, yes, you've said that
[07:37] <microhaxo> yea
[07:37] <reka> microhaxo: then join a windows channel
[07:37] <microhaxo> well in case you havent noticed
[07:38] <microhaxo> windows COSTS MONEY..
[07:38] <microhaxo> dammit
[07:38] <X7C> i dreamt with breezy yesterday xD
[07:38] <ompaul> microhaxo, yes that is why we all choose Linux
[07:38] <microhaxo> lol
[07:38] <microhaxo> but
[07:38] <thr1ce> i would say piracy is fine in this case
[07:38] <thr1ce> you've purchased it
[07:38] <mark__> reka, no don't think. In the firefox preferences?
[07:38] <ekCo> nalioth, pm
[07:38] <thr1ce> download a corp. XP cd :)
[07:38] <microhaxo> yea i have the cd key
[07:38] <benito01> necesito charlar
[07:38] <microhaxo> the real one'
[07:38] <reka> mark__: yes, i'd try that.
[07:38] <ompaul> thr1ce, no I would say it is a motive to move
[07:38] <microhaxo> Eh
[07:38] <microhaxo> i like Linux alot
[07:38] <microhaxo> but
[07:38] <ompaul> microhaxo, you really don't need that other stuff
[07:38] <microhaxo> I NEED my games
[07:38] <microhaxo> lol
[07:38] <kong0> i have a couple of windows*s
[07:38] <mark__> ok I'll try that. thanks reka
[07:38] <microhaxo> i have an X800 xt pe
[07:38] <microhaxo> that isnt for gnome to look good
[07:39] <microhaxo> its for Windows to play kick ass games
[07:39] <eyequeue> lamers
[07:39] <unreal> brb, rebooting :)
[07:39] <benito01> microhaxo
[07:39] <microhaxo> yea
[07:39] <eyequeue> i mean gamers
[07:39] <pfp> kong0: gnome (and kde) use a lot of ram, XFCE should be lighter
[07:39] <kong0> thats something i dont like...there isnt much games to linux....
[07:39] <djm62> microhaxo: fair enough...but this really isn't the place to be discussing windows (btw, are you buying games for linux and letting the publishers know?)
[07:39] <benito01> que paso microhaxo
[07:39] <microhaxo> ahh
[07:39] <microhaxo> EVERY
[07:39] <microhaxo> game i dload
[07:39] <microhaxo> doesnt work
[07:39] <microhaxo> on linux
[07:40] <thr1ce> stop
[07:40] <thr1ce> breaking up
[07:40] <thr1ce> your sentences
[07:40] <benito01> microphaxo no hablas en espaol
[07:40] <microhaxo> some bs error, saying i dont have 3d rendering and then Enemy territory i dont know what the hell is wrong with that
[07:40] <HappyFool> benito01: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:40] <microhaxo> c
[07:40] <thr1ce> did you install the ATI drivers?
[07:40] <microhaxo> yea
[07:40] <thr1ce> run fglrxinfo
[07:40] <microhaxo> i can play Tuxracer
[07:40] <microhaxo> fine
[07:40] <microhaxo> its all there
[07:40] <thr1ce> does it say ATI ?
[07:40] <microhaxo> glxgears
[07:40] <microhaxo> 7000fps
[07:40] <eyequeue> too annoying to stay
[07:40] <microhaxo> yes it does
[07:41] <thr1ce> ouch
[07:41] <benito01> happyfool que paso hablas espaol
[07:41] <hondje> microhaxo: glxinfo | grep server looks 'bout what you'd expect?
[07:41] <pfp> kong0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 <- games
[07:41] <djm62> microhaxo: press return less frequently, for all our sakes
[07:41] <HappyFool> benito01: i do not speak spanish
[07:41] <microhaxo> lol, ill keep that in mind
[07:41] <HappyFool> benito01: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <wouterl> where does ubuntu keep the xf86config file? can't find it ...
[07:41] <hondje> hablan espanol en #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <benito01> i sorry happy fool
[07:41] <HappyFool> wouterl: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <microhaxo> however CEDEGA has the worst ass proformance, not to mention i cant get shit installed on this x64 release..
[07:41] <thr1ce> wouterl, it uses xorg
[07:41] <djm62> wouterl: ubuntu doesn't use xf86... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <nalioth> benito01: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <thr1ce> try looking for xorg.conf :)
[07:41] <wouterl> it's the warty ...
[07:42] <fetman> can somebody please help me with my sound?
[07:42] <benito01> nalioth bueno quiero charlar
[07:42] <hondje> nalioth: -amos? estas en #ubuntu-es tambien?
[07:42] <albacker> guys can someone give me a repo to get acroread 7 ??
[07:42] <thr1ce> should be in /etc/X11
[07:42] <HappyFool> wouterl: ah. /etc/X11/XF86config, i think -- or maybe XF86Config
[07:42] <zxxxzz> how do i set wireless network for ubuntu?
[07:42] <wouterl> tnx
[07:42] <zxxxzz> im using the live CD
[07:42] <kong0> i thought cedega was the best...
[07:42] <signius> WooHoo i just ordered all the kit to build my full on m0nowall setup :-)
[07:43] <zxxxzz> just trying it out
[07:43] <nalioth> benito01: hondje , yo habla muy poquito tex-mex
[07:43] <benito01> nalioth sos hombre o mujer
[07:43] <Teddanson> hey does ubuntu use xorg by default ?
[07:43] <djm62> kong0: best is when companies release linux native versions ;)
[07:43] <hondje> nalioth: ah, 10-4 good buddy :)
[07:43] <djm62> Teddanson: yep
[07:43] <benito01> no importa
[07:43] <HappyFool> Teddanson: ubuntu 5.04 (and onwards, no doubt)
[07:43] <benito01> soy de nicaragua
[07:43] <nalioth> hondje: put on barbed-wire underwear
[07:43] <hondje> 'sos'? Who uses 'sos'?
[07:43] <kong0> ok...NOW i understand what u ppl mean with native...
[07:44] <albacker> can someone please give me a repo to get acroread 7 ?
[07:44] <nalioth> benito01: ?esta no personas en #ubuntu-es?
[07:44] <zxxxzz> how do i set wireless network for ubuntu? im using the "Ubuntu Live" . any one knows how to do it?
[07:44] <djm62> kong0: there are a few already, notably unreal tournament for the last two releases, and doom III
[07:44] <kong0> and what a world it would be if companies made games for linux all the time
[07:44] <djm62> kong0: and if you let publishers know you like to play on linux, and have spent money on linux games, they will
[07:44] <benito01> nalioth bueno se me termina el tiemp otro dia charlamos
[07:45] <HappyFool> yeah, we'd have 100 more people complaining about their games not working here
[07:45] <nalioth> benito01: sorry, no comprende
[07:45] <signius> LOL @ HappyFool
[07:45] <synd> check out my nicecast - http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/playlist.pls
[07:45] <kong0> cool....however i dont really spend money on games...or OS...or anything except candy
[07:45] <synd> :>
[07:45] <Bauhn> I need help with uninstalling GRUB and/or Ubuntu so windows boot normally (the way it were when i installed windows). anyone who can help me?
[07:45] <nalioth> Bauhn: fdisk your /mbr
[07:46] <nalioth> Bauhn: any boot disk will do (that has fdisk on it, of course)
[07:46] <Bauhn> nalioth, i really suck on this, so please.. explain?
[07:46] <djm62> kong0: welcome to the ranks of the economically disenfranchised ;)
[07:46] <kong0> bauhn i saw some good froums for thoose kind of problems b4...search for linux forums
[07:46] <nalioth> Bauhn: insert a ubuntu livecd or knoppix livecd
[07:47] <kong0> hahaha i feel like home already
[07:47] <Bauhn> nalioth, ok.. and then?
[07:47] <mark__> I can't see anything in firefox about the middle-click to close tabs
[07:47] <nalioth> Bauhn: or even a windows 95 boot floppy
[07:47] <Bauhn> nalioth, ok. but when the cd boots up, what should i do?
[07:47] <DagaZ> I made a little script for easy install of pure-ftpd http://dagaz.zapto.org/pureinstall <-- any comments are welcome
[07:47] <nalioth> Bauhn: open a terminal and type "fdisk /mbr" and that will clean grub off the mbr and you can have windows back (gettin linux back is alittle more complicated)
[07:48] <Bauhn> nalioth, i'm going to throw away the linux-hdd anyways..
[07:48] <nalioth> Bauhn: ok, then, that should fix you up
[07:48] <HappyFool> nalioth: does 'fdisk /mbr' work on the ubuntu livecd ?
[07:49] <kong0> hmm i just remebered i have nvn on cd...
[07:49] <Bauhn> Unable to open /mbr
[07:49] <Bauhn> root@allrummetgoesLAJNUX:/home/bauhn #
[07:49] <kong0> however...i kinda need daemon tools (or linux version of it?)...
[07:49] <microhaxo> pure BS
[07:50] <Bauhn> nalioth, what should i do now?
[07:50] <nalioth> HappyFool: i'm not sure, i always have my knoppix with me on house-calls
[07:50] <djm62> kong0: is that neverwinter nights? they have a linux version
[07:50] <HappyFool> nalioth: ok, so fdisk /mbr works with knoppix? ;)
[07:50] <nalioth> Bauhn: ya got an old win98/98 boot floppy around?
[07:50] <Bauhn> nalioth, no, but i think i can fix a live-cd
[07:51] <nalioth> Bauhn: probably quicker (if you have a floppy drive and floppy) to go to bootdisk.com
[07:52] <Bauhn> nalioth, but i'm on "Dreamhack" right now, and dont have any floppys with me. so that's a problem
[07:52] <kong0> yes...but i think i have windows version...does it work on both?
[07:52] <Bauhn> so i'll go with the live-cd
[07:52] <djm62> kong0: I think you download a small file, then use the same CD key and game data
[07:52] <kong0> djm63: how do you write TO me so the color is red?
[07:52] <kong0> cool
[07:52] <Bauhn> do you think it'll work with a windows cd and from there run something from DOS?
[07:52] <nalioth> Bauhn: dreamhack?
[07:53] <ivanox> Dreamhack is the worlds biggest LAN
[07:53] <Bauhn> nalioth, worlds largest computer festival.. but anyways.. do you think it will work?
[07:53] <microhaxo> Yo
[07:53] <microhaxo> what is a good FILE BURNING SOFTWARE?!
[07:53] <nalioth> Bauhn: a rescue console from a win_nt_based cd will have a proggy called 'fixmbr' i believe this does what you want
[07:53] <thr1ce> microhaxo, stop talking in caps
[07:53] <microhaxo> lol
[07:53] <djm62> kong0: I imagine your irc client looks out for your /nick in a line, so if I start a line with your nick it highlights it
[07:53] <kong0> nero...haha dont know in linux...
[07:53] <nalioth> microhaxo: lose the caps, bud
[07:53] <microhaxo> lol
[07:53] <microhaxo> aight
[07:53] <thr1ce> nero works in linux for one
[07:54] <kong0> cool
[07:54] <microhaxo> never again will you see caps from me
[07:54] <hondje> microhaxo: use nautilus
[07:54] <DagaZ> kong0: use loop.. check the ubuntuguide
[07:54] <microhaxo> nero isnt free
[07:54] <thr1ce> or dd
[07:54] <thr1ce> :)
[07:54] <Bauhn> nalioth, so i run DOS and typ "fixmbr" and everything will work fine after that?
[07:54] <hondje> microhaxo: open nautilus, click places, and cd/dvd creator
[07:54] <kong0> shouldnt u have the same client? it was included
[07:54] <microhaxo> k
[07:54] <microhaxo> is it already installed?
[07:54] <kong0> natice or what u call it
[07:54] <djm62> microhaxo: k3b is good, nautilus will burn data, gnome-baker will burn data and audio
[07:54] <nalioth> Bauhn: if you have a plain dos thing (like freedos) use fdisk /mbr
[07:54] <microhaxo> i need data
[07:54] <Lie-Algebra> hi, i figured out i should add "reboot=b" to the kernel comand line so that my laptop reboot properly, how do i do that?
[07:54] <djm62> microhaxo: if you literally want to burn files, that's a hardware thing
[07:54] <LDM> I like K3B for burning, but it's a KDE app... should be able to get it working under gnome thought.
[07:54] <microhaxo> what?
[07:54] <microhaxo> lol
[07:55] <nalioth> if you boot from a win2k/winXP bootable cd, choose rescue mode and go to rescue console
[07:55] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[07:55] <nalioth> LDM: k3b works fine under gnome
[07:55] <Bauhn> nalioth, yes. and from there just type "fdisk /mbr"?
[07:55] <thr1ce> k3b is the most developed burnign software for gui, i think
[07:55] <microhaxo> where is use nautilus stored?
[07:55] <nalioth> Bauhn: then use fixmbr
[07:55] <djm62> microhaxo: nautilus is the file manager
[07:55] <microhaxo> ah
[07:56] <hondje> k3b makes no sense to me
[07:56] <hondje> Why so many buttons?
[07:56] <nalioth> Bauhn: the NT kerneled boot disks dont have fdisk, but fixmbr
[07:56] <Bauhn> nalioth, sorry if i'm dumb, but i just dont want to change hdd's one more time. so boot from the cd, rescue console, fixmbr, reboot?
[07:56] <kong0> can i install windoes drivers somehow on this linux? i cant find any knew...
[07:56] <nalioth> hondje: there are buttons in k3b?
[07:56] <mikas> is it possible to make the cd/dvd-burner of gnome a bit more verbose?
[07:56] <Teddanson> does ubuntu offer a way to choose between wireless networks in range via gui?
[07:56] <djm62> microhaxo: onmy system, if I insert a blank CD, it automatically brings up nautilus for CD burning
[07:56] <microhaxo> lol
[07:56] <microhaxo> let me see
[07:56] <nalioth> Bauhn: if you are using a win2k/winXP boot cd, yes
[07:56] <kong0> i have ibm thinkpad t40...
[07:56] <hondje> nalioth: seems over-done to me
[07:56] <Bauhn> nalioth, sweet. thanks for your help and have a nice day
[07:57] <microhaxo> elite
[07:57] <microhaxo> :D
[07:57] <djm62> (I didn't set that up, it Just Worked, but YMMV)
[07:57] <nalioth> my god i'm talking about windows.. i must be sick
[07:57] <mark__> does most RPM's work with ubuntu?
[07:57] <thr1ce> microhaxo, :)
[07:57] <Octane> when will the openoffice2.org amd64 packages be fixed? :)
[07:57] <nalioth> mark__: most of em
[07:57] <thr1ce> mark__, of course not
[07:57] <thr1ce> mark__, gotta get them to deb first
[07:57] <nalioth> thr1ce: not even with alien?
[07:58] <djm62> mark__: in general, assume not...it's worth a try if there's no alternative
[07:58] <thr1ce> i would say it's a last resort...converting CAN go bad
[07:58] <djm62> mark__: there aren't many things you can't get in deb format, especially if you add some extre repositories
[07:58] <kong0> whats the best programme for bin and image emulation?
[07:59] <thr1ce> bin2iso :)
[07:59] <thr1ce> then loop it
[07:59] <kong0> like alcohol120%
[07:59] <djm62> thr1ce: does nautilus do that automatically?
[07:59] <thr1ce> i don't think so...but i'm sure you'll find a bin to iso converter on freshmeat
[07:59] <kong0> djm62:
[07:59] <nalioth> kong0: binchunker
[08:00] <nalioth> thr1ce: is bin2iso on sourceforge?
[08:00] <kong0> where in synaptics could i fin that?
[08:00] <nalioth> woops
[08:00] <nalioth> slow fingers, thr1ce
[08:00] <djm62> thr1ce: I meant the loopback stuff...last time I used that, it involved being root
[08:00] <microhaxo> dammit
[08:00] <microhaxo> i think im going to have to setup my 2600 in a second box just for linux
[08:00] <microhaxo> because
[08:00] <microhaxo> windows is FUBAR..
[08:01] <kong0> whats fubar?
[08:01] <HappyFool> german
[08:01] <thr1ce> yes, mounting an iso requires root / sudo
[08:01] <microhaxo> fked up beyond recognition
[08:01] <djm62> microhaxo: windows isn't designed to work with other OSes...things go better if you keep it simple and separate
[08:01] <HappyFool> for badly broken
[08:01] <microhaxo> it is seprerate
[08:01] <microhaxo> on a SEPERATE HD
[08:01] <microhaxo> i dont get it
[08:01] <GNULinuxer> kong0, fubar == whatever ... just rubbish
[08:02] <djm62> thr1ce: why is that?
[08:02] <kong0> ok
[08:02] <thr1ce> djm62, it's just like mounting a CD or HDD
[08:02] <kong0> where do i get my hands on binchunk...pls dont say synaptrics cus i cant find a thing there...
[08:02] <sens> I thought it was spelt foobar
[08:03] <thr1ce> google?
[08:03] <djm62> thr1ce: certainly mounting it at kernel level, that's obvious, but why can't user-space tools interpret the contents of an ISO and let you get files off it?
[08:03] <GNULinuxer> sens, that's an alt spelling
[08:03] <Teddanson> does ubuntu=debian with better hardware detection?
[08:04] <sens> GNULinuxer: alt as in old? I learnt the word from my dad so....yeah it would be fairly old
[08:04] <hondje> Teddanson: Seems about the same to me, actually
[08:04] <nalioth> kong0: proper name for it is "binchunker"
[08:04] <GNULinuxer> sens, alt as in alternative
[08:04] <sens> GNULinuxer: orite, thanks
[08:04] <kong0> maaaaan, i havent installed a single driver on this linux...
[08:04] <djm62> Teddanson: ubuntu is a more desktop-focussed
[08:04] <kong0> i dont hink a can play music and games and such...
[08:04] <microhaxo> if someone can get CEDEGA WORKING i will stay with linux
[08:05] <sens> @kong0, neither have I, not sure if I need any drivers
[08:05] <microhaxo> cuz i need meh games
[08:05] <microhaxo> lol
[08:05] <bob2> microhaxo: if you've paid for it, transgaming will be happy to help
[08:05] <Octane> Cerberus, crowbar swinging idiots ring a bell?
[08:05] <thr1ce> microhaxo, lots of people use cedega
[08:05] <bob2> kong0: of course you can have listen to music
[08:05] <Cerberus> Octane yeah it does
[08:05] <Octane> Cerberus I am [CSI] Octane!
[08:05] <Cerberus> cool
[08:05] <Octane> do you remember me??
[08:05] <djm62> microhaxo: yeah...cedega is something you can demand help for from the manufacturers
[08:06] <Cerberus> Octane not really man
[08:06] <sens> anyone here used BUM? Boot-Up Manager?
[08:06] <kong0> bob2: i havent installed my motherboard
[08:06] <Octane> Cerberus, okay wrong guy then :)
[08:06] <GNULinuxer> sens, http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/FUBAR.html
[08:06] <forsaker8k6> mmm... is it normal that choosing from grub the entry of the kernel in recovery mode (the one that is autogenerated by ubuntu), starts a console with root acces without asking any password?
[08:06] <dell500> "ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch" i get this error when i do sudo apt-get update and it also happens in synaptic
[08:07] <thr1ce> doesn't look a ubuntu mirror to me...
[08:07] <nalioth> dell500: us.archives are foobared at the moment
[08:07] <kong0> well im off downloading some music or such...
[08:07] <sens> GNULinuxer, yeah because foobar was obviously the correct way, hence they've put the definitionunder it
[08:07] <nalioth> dell500: update your sources.list by removing the us. from all lines starting with us.
[08:07] <GNULinuxer> sens, i agree
[08:08] <nalioth> dell500: or don't use marillat
[08:08] <sens> GNULinuxer, good good, could you give me some help possibly?
[08:08] <dell500> what's marillat??
[08:08] <nalioth> dell500: the URL you just posted is marillat
[08:08] <thenuke> dell500: debian repository for mplayer and something :)
[08:08] <kong0> OK DUDES...SERIOUS TROUBLE....i cant eject my dvd drive!!
[08:08] <forsaker8k6> no ideas about what i asked?
[08:08] <thr1ce> are you using it?
[08:09] <kong0> no man i press the button and nothing happens
[08:09] <Bauhn> nalioth, haha, i'm back ;P It didnt work to boot from the cd. GRUB loaded directly.. can i fix it?
[08:09] <thr1ce> kong0, because it's mounted
[08:09] <sens> kong0, right click the icon on the desktop and go to eject
[08:09] <kong0> how do i unmount?
[08:09] <thr1ce> run the command "eject /dev/hdXX"
[08:09] <GNULinuxer> sens, about what?
[08:09] <HappyFool> Bauhn: you'll probably need to tell your bios to boot from cd first
[08:09] <djm62> kong0: something (probably nautilus) is "in" the directory, so you can't eject it while in use.  find the icon, right-click on it, and you should be able to select eject or unmount
[08:09] <thr1ce> as I had advised earlier... :)
[08:09] <Bauhn> HappyFool, how do i do that?
[08:09] <scott> sometimes when I switch songs or jump forward in movies I hear this awful screach. how do I get rid of that?
[08:09] <kong0> ahhh man got paniced there for awhile thx dudes
[08:09] <nalioth> Bauhn: i'm not sure if you can fdisk the /mbr from inside a running box
[08:10] <forsaker8k6> sudo umount /media/cdrom, kong0
[08:10] <asase> dell500 or just compile it :) it's so easy: try google: ubuntu multimedia howto
[08:10] <HappyFool> Bauhn: at a guess, during boot, press 'DEL' to get to bios setup, selected .. um. 'Advanced BIOS options', and edit the boot device order there -- it should be sort of obvious
[08:10] <nalioth> anyone know how Bauhn can nuke his /mbr?
[08:10] <myren> why do so many packages lack a description?
[08:10] <bob2> you never want to nuke your mbr
[08:10] <bob2> myren: e.g.?
[08:10] <thr1ce> um
[08:10] <forsaker8k6> what do you mean for nuking his mbr?
[08:10] <dell500> does it matter if it doesn't respond/work??
[08:10] <kong0> i had it on my desktop so i couldnt eject it...just right click...thx all
[08:10] <Varanger> is there any way I can force ALSA to use another IRQ for a card?
[08:10] <thr1ce> cat /dev/random > /mbr ?
[08:10] <thr1ce> something like that?
[08:10] <sens> GNULinuxer, my music, if i put a cd in all my music shows up. as .mp3's, which they are, i think. but if i try to play the file i get told 'There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/Gorillaz%20-%20Demon%20Days/02%20gorillaz%20-%20last%20living%20souls.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins'
[08:10] <myren> xmms-itouch, xfmedia, &c &c
[08:10] <nalioth> Bauhn: there ya go, many people who know more than i
[08:11] <thr1ce> or dd with /dev/random
[08:11] <thenuke> dell500: try this command:  gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[08:11] <bob2> sens: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:11] <thenuke> dell500: that should get marillat working
[08:11] <myren> oh, thats aptitude being weird, i'm sorry
[08:11] <nalioth> bob2 baugh is tired of linux and wants his windows back w/o grub in the way
[08:11] <ilba7r> is there any RSS feed for ubuntu that i can add?
[08:11] <dell500> thanks thenuke
[08:11] <dell500> thenuke, will it conflict with anything??
[08:11] <Bauhn> thr1ce, can you explain more excactly?
[08:11] <scott> is marillat = hoary-extras?
[08:11] <bob2> no
[08:11] <thenuke> dell500: should not conflict.
[08:11] <GNULinuxer> sens, yeah right
[08:12] <thr1ce> Bauhn, did that work?
[08:12] <HappyFool> Bauhn: thr1ce was, i hope, joking there
[08:12] <thr1ce> HappyFool, that wouldn't wipe the mbr?
[08:12] <Bauhn> HappyFool, i'll try your way. I'll be right back
[08:13] <sens> bob2, thanks man.
[08:13] <orangey> hey all!
[08:13] <Varanger> is there any way I can force ALSA to use another IRQ for a card?
[08:13] <orangey> for some reason, when I do ssh -L port:host:port location , it won't let me do it! it's a virgin install of ubuntu.. are there any options that need to be enabled?
[08:13] <thr1ce> or
[08:14] <thr1ce> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1
[08:14] <Shish> orangey: error message?
[08:14] <forsaker8k6> anyway boyz.. i've found a weird thing about security that leaves me a bit concerned...
[08:14] <thr1ce> don't run that anyone else
[08:14] <nalioth> orangey: that's weird
[08:14] <GNULinuxer> sens, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:14] <forsaker8k6> can i ask?
[08:14] <thr1ce> did he leave?
[08:14] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: we're all ears
[08:14] <LinuxJones> forsaker8k6, of course you can ask
[08:14] <HappyFool> thr1ce: yip
[08:14] <thr1ce> damn
[08:14] <orangey> bind: Cannot assign requested address
[08:14] <nalioth> orangey: but i think its supposed to be ssh -L 5900:<IP_ADDRESS>:5900<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(or somethign like that)
[08:14] <orangey> channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 5900
[08:14] <orangey> Could not request local forwarding.
[08:14] <orangey> nalioth: tried that too..
[08:15] <thr1ce> HappyFool, ah
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> starting from grub the autogenerated entry of the kernel in recovery mode,
[08:15] <dell500> thenuke, i think that worked :)
[08:15] <dell500> thanks
[08:15] <HappyFool> maybe something's listening on port 5900 already?
[08:15] <thr1ce> HappyFool, why wouldn't that work?
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> gives the user a terminal with root access
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> O_O
[08:15] <nalioth> orangey: so wahts the error msg?
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> without asking passwords i mean
[08:15] <HappyFool> thr1ce: he wants a windows mbr, not an arbitrarily broken one
[08:15] <orangey> nalioth: as above
[08:15] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: physical access to the machine == compromised, more or less
[08:16] <thr1ce> HappyFool, oooh...I thought he just wanted to wipe it and reinstall windows
[08:16] <kong0> i had a good question...dammit cant remember
[08:16] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: i believe ubuntuguide.org gives some hints on improving security
[08:16] <nalioth> orangey: you've already got something listening on that address. try another one or find out whats running
[08:16] <forsaker8k6> so it is normal, right?
[08:16] <orangey> nalioth: I've tried 5-10 different port nums.
[08:16] <orangey> 2222, 5901, 5555, etc.
[08:16] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: if you are truly concerned, store all your personal data in an encrypted form. and get a wire cage or something to work in
[08:16] <Teddanson> will Tv-out on an intel extreme 2 work with the default vga driver?
[08:16] <battlecat> Hi out there. I will soon be losing my DSL connection (LOL I cant wait!) I will be going to a dialup that I have for free! :) Is there any way to download a few CDs of progs for Ubuntu so that I would not have to worry much about downloading from the repositories when I am on dialup?
[08:16] <nalioth> thr1ce: bin2iso is java-based
[08:16] <forsaker8k6> lol
[08:17] <thr1ce> nalioth, don't like that?
[08:17] <Shish> forsaker8k6: yes; if an attacker the physical ccess to choose "recovery mode" from grub, passwords won't stop them
[08:17] <nalioth> orangey: well, this is out of my league atm
[08:17] <nalioth> thr1ce: some people don't run java
[08:17] <orangey> nalioth: doh!
[08:17] <dell500> thenuke, ya, it still errored on the marillat server
[08:17] <orangey> that's very not good..
[08:17] <orangey> does ubuntu somehow firewall by default?
[08:18] <nalioth> orangey: nope
[08:18] <forsaker8k6> the problem starts if the attacker is my happy friend who wants to make a little joke
[08:18] <forsaker8k6> :P
[08:18] <nalioth> orangey: ubuntu HAS a firewall, but by default it does nothing
[08:18] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: see ubuntuguide.org -- it has tips for this sort of thing
[08:18] <Bauhn> HappyFool, It didn't work, and now i dont have a clue what i should do
[08:18] <forsaker8k6> ok tnx i'll do
[08:18] <Lafitte-> streamtuner is nice :)
[08:18] <orangey> nalioth: what firewall?
[08:18] <HappyFool> Bauhn: you can't get the machine to boot from the cd at all?
[08:19] <orangey> nalioth: what about access? Should I be some other user?
[08:19] <nalioth> orangey: the one in every linux distro .. .. ..iptables
[08:19] <orangey> ; )
[08:19] <Bauhn> HappyFool, no. Grub bites as soon i pass the first boot-screen
[08:19] <thenuke> dell500: hmmh
[08:19] <nalioth> orangey: you should have access to ssh just fine as yourself
[08:19] <orangey> nalioth: well, apparently something is wrong : )
[08:19] <zoofields> I was reading the forum and noticed something about cameras automounting themselves
[08:20] <zoofields> so I gave it a whirl, but mine doesn't seem to do it
[08:20] <zoofields> Do I need to configure something or apt-get something extra?
[08:20] <nalioth> orangey: you probably have several wild ssh tunnels running in your system
[08:21] <orangey> nalioth: it's a virgin ubuntu install..
[08:21] <orangey> nalioth: but how can I track them down?
[08:21] <Bauhn> Anyone who can help me get rid of GRUB and so that windows boots automaticly by default?
[08:21] <zoofields> Anyone know anything about automounting and cameras????
[08:21] <thr1ce> Bauhn, pop in a windows CD and run fixmbr
[08:21] <nalioth> Bauhn: probably easier at this pint to boot into linux and edit the grub.conf
[08:22] <Bauhn> nalioth, i'm in linux right now
[08:22] <HappyFool> Bauhn: if you cannot boot from CD, you are rather out of luck, imo
[08:22] <hondje> zoofields: I stick my camera in, and it mounts :)
[08:22] <signius> Bauhn You dont need to get rid of grub you just need to change the default boot option of grub
[08:22] <djm62> AH-ha! coaxed quake3 into working
[08:22] <nalioth> orangey: "ps -e|grep ssh"
[08:22] <reka> Bauhn: you want to get rid of linux?  or you just want windows to boot by default?
[08:22] <signius> Bauhn if you delete grub you wont be able to boot into linux
[08:22] <nalioth> Bauhn: then edit your grub.conf, change windoze to the primary boot and run the time down to a quick number
[08:22] <zoofields> hondje:  well, isn't that lucky ;)
[08:23] <hondje> zoofields: yes, it rocks :) What's up ?
[08:23] <Bauhn> signius, i know, and that's what i want
[08:23] <nalioth> Bauhn: doenst want linux anymore
[08:23] <signius> and thw windows boot loader only recognises windows OSs
[08:23] <orangey> ubuntu:~$ ps -e|grep ssh
[08:23] <orangey>  7484 pts/3    00:00:00 ssh
[08:23] <reka> djm62: how big is the client install file?
[08:23] <orangey> nalioth: for you : )
[08:23] <nalioth> orangey: i'm totally lost now
[08:23] <zoofields> hondje:  I don't know, it auto mounts usb memory drives
[08:23] <Bauhn> nalioth, but i'm going to remove this harddrive and can not start anything without this one at the moment
[08:23] <djm62> reka: 40-ish megabytes
[08:23] <kong0> what is motif linux, gtx linux and ppc linux?
[08:23] <hondje> zoofields: but not your camera?
[08:23] <Bauhn> becuase grub is loaded first
[08:23] <zoofields> hondje:  yeah for some reason not the camera
[08:24] <reka> kong0: wikipedia
[08:24] <hondje> zoofields: tail /var/log/messages show anything useful?
[08:24] <nalioth> Bauhn: unless you can get a mddos boot floppy.. .. ..
[08:24] <djm62> reka: at least, the demo version, but it's way out of date...I had to pretend to be using old libGL and ignore a few errors on the script
[08:24] <eliyahu> ubuntu is super
[08:24] <kong0> ok..what is wikipedia?
[08:24] <zoofields> hondje:  I was excited becaue I could never get it to work in Mepis, which is one of the reasons I'm trying ubuntu now
[08:24] <ThE__OnE> someone tell me why this is? I told the partioner of Ubuntu to leave 20 gigs for winxp but when i installed winxp, it only had 18.6gig all togetther. any ideas?
[08:24] <reka> djm62: ah.  i meant the linux port.
[08:24] <Bauhn> nalioth, i'll try
[08:25] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: that is correct. partitioners cant' do math well
[08:25] <GNULinuxer> ThE__OnE, 20 Gigs is 18.x Gig in windows
[08:25] <zoofields> hondje:  yeah I tried that and it ended with libgphoto2: loaded successfully
[08:25] <djm62> reka: less that 40 MB, seeing as the demo has to contain the game engine
[08:25] <ThE__OnE> ahh ok
[08:25] <reka> kong0: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[08:25] <^thehatsrule^> LOL
[08:25] <hondje> zoofields: plug it in and run 'gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h'
[08:25] <zoofields> hondje:  ok
[08:25] <eliyahu> i like ubuntu because is very nice
[08:25] <D1> this isn't ubuntu related, but would you guys opt for a $3 d-link router with 802.11b instead of g?
[08:25] <reka> djm62: cool, i'll get around to running q3 some day
[08:26] <D1> its advertised at compusa
[08:26] <Bauhn> but there isn't anyway to remove grub from a terminal or something?
[08:26] <kong0> how do i install zip files? all i get is a folder and then i cant open the files...?
[08:26] <signius> its not partitioners cant do math its that manufacturers are naughty about how they claim the size of a HDD also you lose of the total raw capacity due to formatting etc
[08:26] <djm62> reka: the .pak takes up the vast majority of installed space, so I guess the engine is less that 10MB
[08:26] <eliyahu> apt-get install unzip
[08:26] <reka> kong0: you don't install zip files.  they're archives
[08:26] <signius> some of thtr total*
[08:27] <nalioth> D1 only $3?
[08:27] <nalioth> D1 at that price does it matter?
[08:27] <zoofields> hondje:  wow that worked, thanks alot!!!!
[08:27] <signius> They cannot give you a formatted HDD drive capacity as they dont know what youll format your HDD with and some FileSysterms have more overhead than others
[08:27] <hondje> zoofields: okay, time for the fun part bud :)
[08:27] <kong0> and how do i install the stuff that are in the archives then?
[08:27] <nalioth> Bauhn: there is a way from the terminal, but i dont know it
[08:28] <hondje> zoofields: go to system -> preferences -> removable drives and media
[08:28] <Bauhn> nalioth, ok
[08:28] <reka> kong0: depends on what it is.  what are you trying to install?
[08:28] <zoofields> hondje:  ok
[08:28] <signius> I would AVOID DLINK kit at all costs it rubbish
[08:28] <kong0> binchunker
[08:28] <mm23> in most cases you can just sudo apt-get whatever you need... be sure to add universe and multiverse, though
[08:28] <D1> $3 after rebate of course
[08:29] <signius> DLINK & also BELKIN is nasty hardware and you get what you pay for generally with Hardware
[08:29] <hondje> zoofields: click on the multimedia tab, and add gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h to the digital camera section, and click the 'import digital photographs' checkbox, then you 'should' have that run whenever you connect
[08:29] <nalioth> D1 you can always sell @ profit, if it does prove to be rubbish
[08:29] <mypapit> signius, what would you suggest then after i avoiding DLINK..
[08:29] <z00kus> There we go.
[08:29] <reka> kong0: why not use the repos? sudo apt-get install bchunk
[08:29] <mypapit> signius, what would you suggest then after i avoid DLINK..
[08:29] <signius> on the budget side of things i like Netgear and also Linksys
[08:29] <mypapit> signius, aa.. Linksys
[08:29] <orp> i
[08:29] <signius> i like the Draytek routers
[08:29] <z00kus> So i have a question
[08:29] <Bauhn> Anyone here who knows how i could remove grub from the terminal?
[08:29] <zoofields> hondje:  I got an error message saying that I didn't have the "hald" applet
[08:29] <signius> very capable kit at a reasonable price
[08:30] <mm23> I have a Netgear card and router, they work great, although I have to use ndiswrapper
[08:30] <z00kus> How long does it usually take for the Ubuntu CD's To ship?
[08:30] <orp> yap
[08:30] <kong0> reka: im completely new on this OS and now i wonder what repos is...
[08:30] <z00kus> I have a few companies i need to distribute them too and alot of stores/friends
[08:30] <reka> !repositories
[08:30] <signius> on a budegt also Buffalo stuff seems to work very wel
[08:30] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:30] <hondje> zoofields: open a terminal and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart
[08:30] <nalioth> mypapit: and walmart sells linksys stuff under another brand (same hardware, different label)
[08:30] <signius> and buffalo seems very linux friendly most of the time also
[08:30] <mm23> stupid people making<PHONE_NUMBER> fancy mp3 visualization plugins for XMMS or something instead of actually writing drivers
[08:30] <orp> some one use gmplayer
[08:30] <hondje> nalioth: 'network everywhere'
[08:30] <mypapit> oh..
[08:30] <kbrooks> ping
[08:30] <hondje> nalioth: it rocks, solid network cards fro $12
[08:31] <orp> i am with a problems it crach
[08:31] <HappyFool> z00kus: you can probably find someone local to dowload it for you for a small fee, if you're in a hurry
[08:31] <reka> kong0: only install stuff manually (i.e. from "zip" files) when you can't find the program in the repos
[08:31] <signius> I wasnt aware Linksys made kit for anyone else
[08:31] <HappyFool> z00kus: try a internet cafe, for example, or use google
[08:31] <nalioth> hondje: i know, i have several, but atm they are buried and in the other room and i can/t read their labels
[08:31] <z00kus> no no no
[08:31] <nalioth> z00kus: like your local university or linux users group
[08:31] <signius> Linksys is part of cisco and they are very possesive about there stuff
[08:31] <z00kus> I put an order in for 80 Cd's because im distributing to Companies/Schools/Friends
[08:31] <kbrooks> z00kus: maybe i can help. explain your problem
[08:31] <z00kus> And i was wondering how long it should take
[08:32] <nalioth> signius: walmart rules the world of capitalism
[08:32] <z00kus> (For the cd's to arrive)
[08:32] <Bauhn> i've found a cd-r. now i'm going to download a live-cd and i maybe come back later
[08:32] <kbrooks> z00kus: depends. we cant say
[08:32] <zoofields> hondje:  ok did it
[08:32] <z00kus> Alright
[08:32] <nalioth> signius: and i personally don't care what the label says, as long as its linksys hardware
[08:32] <signius> i dont think even wallmart has enough clout to tell cisco what to do
[08:32] <hondje> zoofields: now try that again, lets' hope the magic stays :)
[08:32] <z00kus> If you guys need to call me to confirm my order then i will have phone on all day
[08:32] <z00kus> But thanks for telling me Kbrooks.
[08:32] <kong0> reko: i cant find it in repos
[08:32] <z00kus> Everyone have a great night.
[08:33] <nalioth> signius: cisco to my thoughts, doesnt sell to ma-and-pa-kettle
[08:33] <kong0> reka: actually i dont even know how to find it in repos
[08:33] <reka> kong0: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:33] <nalioth> !Restricted
[08:33] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:33] <signius> if you want a very capable router and have some spare hardware consider m0nowall
[08:33] <nalioth> kong0: what ubotu said
[08:33] <kong0> ?
[08:33] <signius> CISCO own Linksys
[08:33] <kbrooks> a bot!
[08:33] <reka> kong0: do that, and then use synaptic to install programs(sys->admin->synaptic)
[08:33] <zoofields> hondje:  when I did the thing in the terminal it said that hald was already running, but I still get the same hald not running error message when I click on the media menu
[08:34] <kbrooks> omfg!
[08:34] <kong0> ok
[08:34] <reka> kbrooks: you saw it yesterday.
[08:34] <signius> m0nowall will rival routers costing 1000 upwards with some of its features and its got a fantastic GUI to admin it
[08:34] <hondje> zoofields: hrm, I'm not cool w/ hald, I dunno bud
[08:34] <kong0> kbrroks: i know but i have swedish and cant transleta that bot language to english sry
[08:34] <kbrooks> reka: did i?
[08:34] <nalioth> signius: yes, and major overkill for ma-and-pa-kettle
[08:34] <hondje> maybe nalioth knows, he's a smart cat
[08:34] <zoofields> hondje:  thanks for trying, I really appreciate it
[08:34] <hondje> zoofields: no problem
[08:34] <signius> its free
[08:34] <kbrooks> kong0: ?????
[08:35] <bionic> Where is the soundconfig in ubuntu 5.04? I want to remove the cards i have, would like to use another card. ?
[08:35] <reka> kbrooks: yep.  i distinctly remember it.
[08:35] <kbrooks> bionic: alsactl?
[08:35] <kong0> well im going afk now cya and thx for tha help
[08:35] <nalioth> kong0: go here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:35] <nalioth> hondje: who's a smart cat?
[08:35] <nalioth> hondje: and what is he smart about?
[08:35] <bionic> kbrooks, dont know, theres a whole bunch of modules loaded for the soundcard i dont want to use, i would like to remove everything
[08:36] <reka> nalioth: why restricted?  doesn't he want to install bchunk?
[08:36] <ivanox> anyone in here using wine!?
[08:36] <kbrooks> ivanox: wassup
[08:36] <forsak3n> How do I change the settings of what happens when I close my laptop lid?
[08:37] <Garathor> Which daemon does Ubuntu use as default to manage speedstepping? Powernowd, cpufreqd or cpudyn?
[08:37] <hondje> nalioth: you, on the subject of hald/gvm
[08:37] <kbrooks> Garathor: dpkg -L powernowd?
[08:37] <ivanox> I installed wine using the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&page=1&pp=10 but I cannot install internet explorer in winetools...
[08:37] <kbrooks> ivanox: #wine
[08:37] <nalioth> reka: everyone (imho) can use uni and multi
[08:38] <ivanox> actaully it's winehq but they dont respond
[08:38] <nalioth> hondje: whats a hald/gvm?
[08:38] <Garathor> I'm not on my Ubuntu-system right now :)