[11:50] <ActionPa1snip> Voidnull: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases   EOL of Natty is 28th Oct 2012
[11:50] <ActionPa1snip> Voidnull: I suggest a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 2017
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> Voidnull: You can also upgrade in one step to 14.04 when it is released next year as itr is LTS to LTS upgrade
[11:53] <Voidnull> thanks ActionPa1snip  ill reinstall the system i was wondering if there was a way to avoid it but ... np :)
[12:02] <choia> Locate the FAIL: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=800
[12:03] <kalekip1> ?
[12:03] <choia> It seems that the ubuntu keyboard have a WIN key :)
[12:03] <Luyin> is that a win-key? :D
[12:03] <kalekip1> lol, not a big deal
[12:04] <kalekip1> Oh, it's flexible! That's why it's called flexboard
[12:04] <kalekip1> XD
[12:05] <coalwater> hi all
[12:06] <morten77> I would love to remove the ugly Win key myself... I never use it and it is in the way
[12:07] <coalwater> morten77: you don't use unity ?
[12:07] <Badbit> I had one of those 10 years ago.
[12:07] <morten77> or at least move it somewhere else, perhaps above the numerical keypad?
[12:08] <Badbit> It's just a rebranding of a really crappy keyboard that's impossible to type on.
[12:08] <morten77> hehehe no I don't use unity lol
[12:08] <mario___> i can't start my xubuntu 13.04, when i start my pc i see blue screen with loading for 2-3 sec and later i see only black screen with cursor on top left angle, i can't startx i have got a message: failed to start session "gnome", i can start terminal via alt+f1,f2... can someone help me to repair my xubuntu ?
[12:09] <morten77> Badbit: aha is it like the dell keyboard that lose some keystroks if you type to fast?
[12:11] <kalekip1> mario___: Can you provide us a screenshot?
[12:11] <kalekip1> mario___: Do you have a camera?
[12:12] <kalekip1> morten77: Why not? Windows/Apple/Super key is really useful
[12:13] <_Joshua> I saw one with a cover that said "END LIFE"
[12:13] <kalekip1> morten77: I use [CTRL] + [Super] + [D] All the time >:D
[12:13] <kalekip1> !ot
[12:14] <linu1> hi i have been trying to install ccid 1.4.4, i just confiure as below,but there is output files like /usr/local/lib/pcsc please see http://pastebin.com/0XXUTx64 can you tell me what is that issues
[12:14] <mario___> kalekip1: i can't provide screenshot, i'm connected to irc via irssi started from pc with broken xubuntu
[12:14] <sulo__> Hi guys good afternoon or morning :D
[12:15] <kalekip1> mario___: Hmmm, what does it say? Can you read it?
[12:15] <kalekip1> Hi, sulo__.
[12:15] <_Joshua> dont try too hard, kiddo
[12:16] <kalekip1> _Joshua: To who are you talking to?
[12:17] <mario___> kalekip1: what can i read ?
[12:18] <kalekip1> mario___: Doesn't the blue screen give you a message?
[12:18] <kalekip1> mario___: Only a blue screen?
[12:18] <morten77> kalekip1: what do ctr-super-d do?
[12:19] <kalekip1> morten77: Minimize every window
[12:19] <mario___> kalekip1: the blue screen show for 2-3 sec, after blue screen with xubuntu logo i see only black screen
[12:19] <mario___> with cursor in top left angle
[12:19] <mario___> when i start terminal and type startx i see message: failed to start session "gnome"
[12:19] <morten77> kalekip1: aha, well I never do that.
[12:20] <sulo__> Kalekip1 you are admin or what? :D
[12:20] <kalekip1> mario___: Are you dual booting?
[12:20] <kalekip1> sulo__: No, why?
[12:21] <morten77> I assume minimizing all windows is to reach the icons on the desktop? wouldn't be smarter to have those icons in its own plane/window that can be put on top of the others? just an idea
[12:21] <Natalia19Morena> hola
[12:21] <mario___> kalekip1: no i have only xubuntu
[12:22] <sulo__> kalekip1, you were here yesterday and you resolved your problem with booting I think, btw Congratulation :)
[12:22] <Luyin> morten77: or to hide your browser window *g*
[12:22] <kalekip1> sulo__: Yes, thanks :p
[12:22] <sulo__> :P
[12:22] <morten77> mario___: can you put windows on the black screen? (with not window manager I guess they'll be borderless though), like if you start xterm & from the textmodeconsole
[12:23] <sulo__> maybe you can help me now just for information
[12:23] <mario___> morten77: i start terminal with alt+f1 to connect to irc via irssi
[12:24] <sulo__> do you know what does the word SIGSEGV means?
[12:24] <kalekip1> sulo__: Segmentation Violation Signa, why?
[12:25] <kalekip1> Signal*
[12:25] <sulo__> ubuntu just shows  me update-notifier error
[12:25] <morten77> signal something... Segmentation fault
[12:25] <sulo__> just typical message...
[12:25] <sulo__> Ubuntu has experienced an internal error...
[12:26] <kalekip1> sulo__: Not a big eal, is it?
[12:26] <sulo__> isnt there any channel called bugs or something like that?
[12:26] <kalekip1> deal*
[12:26] <sulo__> ya
[12:26] <sulo__> It just shows me this message but nothing else happened
[12:26] <sulo__> no crashes
[12:26] <kalekip1> sulo__: This is a place where the geeks and upcoming geeks come together. This isn't a guaranteed help chat
[12:27] <sulo__> k
[12:27] <kalekip1> sulo__: I suggest coming back in 4 hours
[12:27] <lelell> Hey, is it possible to enter a key combination at the "Enter Password"-screen of an already logged in user to log him out?
[12:27] <kalekip1> sulo__: Then more people will help you out
[12:27] <morten77> sulo__: when do you get this segmentation fault error? what program is buggy
[12:27] <sulo__> wait
[12:27] <sulo__> It will be better to save it as image - print screen etc...
[12:28] <sulo__> then I can give you a link I think It is useless to write loong story out there
[12:28] <lelell> I'm asking 'cuz I'm sitting at school and some d-bag has forgot to log out and I can't press the power button to shut down the computer for some reason.
[12:28] <morten77> mario___: try ask in #xubuntu channel too if you can't fix the problem
[12:28] <kalekip1> sulo__: Alt + Prt Sc
[12:28] <Luyin> !language | lelell
[12:28] <sulo__> I know :(
[12:28] <sulo__> :)
[12:28] <sulo__> ty
[12:28] <mario___> morten77: ok thanks
[12:28] <trdillon1> I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  and I always get a failed the DKMS installation part of the ati driver install. I think I have all the depencies installed. Any ideas what I', missing?
[12:29] <sulo__> what should I gonna do If that report is quite loong
[12:29] <kalekip1> sulo__: Text? Pastebin
[12:29] <kalekip1> !pb
[12:29] <Luyin> lelell: what login manager?
[12:30] <sulo__> thanks ubottu
[12:30] <sulo__> I am Ubuntu newbie
[12:30] <kalekip1> sulo__: ubottu is a really a bot. I woke him up
[12:30] <kalekip1> lol
[12:30] <sulo__> OMG now I see :D :D
[12:31] <lelell> Luyin: Just the default one that comes with 12.04
[12:31] <Luyin> lelell: select the user you want to log in to and ignore the logged-in one
[12:31] <sulo__> can I get is somehow to console? :D
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: [CTRL] + [ALT] + [T]
[12:32] <sulo__> I know
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: called Terminal on Mac + Linux
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: not what you was looking for?
[12:32] <sulo__> but you know It is an report I cant copy the text :D
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: then !screenshot
[12:33] <kalekip1> !screenshot
[12:33] <sulo__> ok If you want to have 5 images... :D
[12:34] <sulo__> maybe one screenshot wil be enough
[12:35] <kalekip1> sulo__: idrc :p
[12:35] <CSy-n> Where can I ask questions about terminal commands?
[12:35] <mjayk> CSy-n: here or there is a page full of them on the ubuntu wiki
[12:35] <kalekip1> CSy-n:  I guess just here
[12:35] <kalekip1> !channels
[12:37] <anouk> hi
[12:37] <kalekip1> Welcome, anouk.
[12:37] <cariveri> Hi. is 14 GB a reasonable amount of data on the / partition (without /home) ?
[12:37] <anouk> i need some help installing a intel driver on a Atom laptop
[12:38] <kalekip1> cariveri: For installing Ubuntu?
[12:38] <almostworking> cariveri, yes, at least for my distro installs 20GB is normally  , my  /  partition  , unless u install a ton of apps. etc
[12:38] <mjayk> cariveri: depends where you plan on storing stuff if you plan on installing stuff to your /home then yea should be fine
[12:38] <ActionPa1snip> cariveri: yes, I use 10Gb. Depends on needs
[12:38] <sulo__> 1 screenshot remains
[12:39] <cariveri> I gave /  15 GB an now im running out of space. it was obvious since my last upgrade.
[12:39] <Luyin> cariveri: it depends strongly on what you like to do. if you need to install a lot of apps, you're probably looking for a bit more
[12:39] <anouk> i need help installing cedar drm driver... anyone ?
[12:39] <Luyin> cariveri: got 50 GB on / here
[12:39] <cariveri> Luyin: I originally hoped apps were put on /home wich is larger.
[12:39] <almostworking> btw, im installing dual boot, on a laptop with 12.04.3 ... and i am givin a slider bar, showing how to divide storage , but doesnt say which window is for which OS.
[12:39] <mjayk> cariveri: you can set it as such
[12:39] <Luyin> cariveri: afaic not by default
[12:40] <kalekip1> anouk: Did you go to the Intel website?
[12:40] <sulo__> kalekip1, are you still here?
[12:40] <kalekip1> sulo__: Yes, I am.
[12:40] <cariveri> still. isnt there any where to tear down this amount. I already deinstalled locales. next comes docs, tha tI dont need.
[12:40] <anouk> yes i did, it seems the best drivers are the powervr ones, just don't knoz how to install
[12:41] <kalekip1> anouk: Install or update?
[12:41] <anouk> install
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> almostworking: I recommend you do the resize in Windows
[12:42] <kalekip1> anouk: Not sure, but maybe this helps? http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/using-intel-compilers-for-linux-with-ubuntu/
[12:42] <mjayk> ActionPa1snip: really :o
[12:42] <almostworking> oh? ActionPa1snip , there is a issue using the ubuntu installer to shrink the windows OS partition??
[12:42] <anouk> thanks ill check it out
[12:42] <kalekip1> anouk: I don't think so, I'll Google it if I can
[12:42] <sulo__> uploading takes hours and hours, grrrr
[12:42] <Luyin> actually, I'd recommend using a live OS to rearrange partitions.
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: yes, Windows has a resizer for NTFS and NTFS is proprietary to Microsoft who make Windows
[12:44] <cariveri> mjayk: hmm ok. perhaps I should reconsider freeing space and putting /usr on a seperat partition. what size woudl you suggest?
[12:44] <sulo__> hey kalekip1, check out these screeens hope it will help http://imagebin.org/271161 http://imagebin.org/271165
[12:44] <anouk> well
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: so imho it makes sense to use the Microsoft tool to resize the Microsoft filesystem
[12:44] <anouk> installation fails from driver update
[12:44] <lpapp> anyone for my question/
[12:44] <lpapp> ?
[12:44] <kalekip1> anouk: Maybe this one? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: makes sense when you actually think about it
[12:44] <almostworking> really? curious why , but ok........  is there some sort of guide, ive been pure linux since version 6, so, ........
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: so in response. "YEs, really"
[12:45] <kalekip1> lpapp: What's your question? sulo__: What happens if you press continue?
[12:45] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: why would it be a bad idea?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:45] <kalekip1> Welcome, BluesKaj.
[12:46] <mjayk> ActionPa1snip: Id always use ubuntu in my experience windows is not good at resizing has a higher fail rate, id also never do it in an installer either
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hi kalekip1  thanks
[12:46] <sulo__> kalekip1 bad question I suppose,  press continue?? It is an bug report so wake up or not? :D
[12:47] <kalekip1> sulo__: I meant, dismiss. Everything works fine, right?
[12:47] <lpapp> kalekip1: see above
[12:47] <kalekip1> sulo__: if it happens again, then send report?
[12:47] <sulo__> kalekip1 I am sorry I am just dumbasss after pressing continue nothing else hapenned everything is running fine, sorry again
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: far easier to plan partitions and then you dont have to resize ;)
[12:47] <anouk> hmm
[12:47] <anouk> so
[12:47] <sulo__> should I try update my system? :)
[12:48] <anouk> how do you use a makefile ?
[12:48] <kalekip1> sulo__: Don't worry. This is a nice community. That's why I am here.
[12:48] <almostworking> hmmm, well i can use Knoppix, or rescuecd,  or whichever tool is best to resize windows  first if thats what i should do.....  i already did a image of windows, so i dont realy have to worry if it goes wrong
[12:48] <devjustforfun> Hello guys. Could any body help me with english. I know many people in here know english.
[12:48] <kalekip1> sulo__: Once in a while I do: sudo apt-get update
[12:48] <sulo__> kalekip1 thank you maan everyone must start sometimes :(
[12:48] <sulo__> :)
[12:48] <CSy-n> Ok, I have a text file with an address in it. and I want to ssh to that address. the command would be something like 'ssh $address-in-file'.
[12:48] <kalekip1> devjustforfun: Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:49] <Pici> devjustforfun: ##english
[12:49] <Version1> Hi, laptop overheat issue. temperature 75-80+C even if CPU is throttled to about 1GHz. possibly GPU is the reason. ubuntu 12.10
[12:49] <sulo__> kalekip1, maybe I am newbie but I got an error while updating my 12.10 version to 13.04 but I fixed it so now I am running clean 13.04 :)
 i have wrote in ##english already
[12:49] <kalekip1> sulo__: Me2 ;)
[12:49] <Pici> CSy-n: just one address? ssh $(cat filename)
[12:49] <kalekip1> Version1: I hope it doesn't melt bro
[12:50] <almostworking> Version1, what kinda laptop, and has it ever been cleaned if old?
[12:50] <almostworking> that TEMP is the CPU or GPU  ?
[12:50] <kalekip1> Version1: Fan, cooling, etc.
[12:51] <sulo__> while running update It just shows me 404 error and that means It couldnt find some files becase they are on other places
[12:51] <dtcrshr> Hello! im trying to install ubuntu via an usb stick but I got pointed to initramfs all the time. I can see the error on the terminal complaining that a /dev/sd0 were not found. I have disabled all on bios I wouldnt use, floppy, printer ports... Is any low level loading mode so I can install ubuntu?
[12:51] <kalekip1> Cleaning the fan from dust ALWAYS help a bit.
[12:51] <Version1> almostworking: temp is CPU laptop: macbookPro 2006 not cleaned
[12:52] <kalekip1> dtcrshr: I did it like.. yesterday :p Did you use the Universal tool?
[12:52] <sulo__> kalekip1,now I know maybe there is problem with downloading translation for my language but that is ok I rather use english It is pretty good for learning :)
[12:52] <cfhowlett> dtcrshr, how did you create the USB.  Did you md5sum to verify the download integrity?
[12:52] <kalekip1> sulo__: For computing, English is my preferred language. Dutch is lame on the internet...
[12:52] <almostworking> ahh, i see Version1 , those run pretty hot normally, esp. under load .  cleaning it out and putting some artic silver might help a bit ...... however that laptop is not easy to take apart.
[12:53] <sulo__> anyway I am from the czech republic and my language is f.ckingly hard so .. :D
[12:53] <almostworking> and they do have a recall on the nvidia GPU on the 2007 - 08 models ,
[12:53] <almostworking> if u have ATI should be ok
[12:53] <kalekip1> sulo__: I think Chinese and Russian are the hardest to learn :p
[12:53] <Version1> almostworking: its ATI
[12:54] <dtcrshr> Iv created via "universal usb installer" (also tryed yumi, same results) the md5 is fine, I can boot on another netbook iv tested
[12:54] <almostworking> ok, well, you could check the forums but i had one and that thing was hot to the touch when it was under a heavy load.
[12:54] <[Gentoo]> kalekip1: im amazed how people can even read japanese / chinese etc with all them little symbols
[12:54] <kalekip1> !ot
[12:54] <almostworking> i have a thinkpad now.
[12:54] <sulo__> lol try czech language to read It is also hard as hell :D
[12:54] <[Gentoo]> nah im ok lol
[12:55] <Rory> dtcrshr: Can you select the "check integrity" option from the first menu when you boot from the USB?
[12:55] <kalekip1> I'm losing a bit track of the chat. It's been busy now. Please mention the name of somebody and that person will receive a notification/message will be highlighted.
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !who
[12:55] <sulo__> hope there will be the new version of ubuntu :)
[12:55] <kalekip1> cfhowlett: Thanks! :p
[12:56] <sulo__> kalekip1: ok
[12:56] <sulo__> :D
[12:56] <kalekip1> sulo__: 14.04 will be coming next year I just heard.
[12:56] <sulo__> kalekip
[12:56] <sulo__> I am looking forward really :)
[12:56] <kalekip1> sulo__: ?
[12:56] <kalekip1> sulo__: :p
[12:56] <almostworking> ubuntu version 8 was their  " white album" imho .  a beetles reference , best i could think of.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> almostworking, "beetles"??? shameful.  "Beatles"!
[12:57] <asdf-> www-data was deleted from /etc/passwd... how do i add it back?
[12:57] <sulo__> kalekip, can you say me what is the oldest version of ubuntu I am too lazy to find it on wikipedia :D
[12:57] <kalekip1> !ot
[12:57] <cfhowlett> sulo__, warty warthog
[12:57] <almostworking> im tired, im running on empty here which you can tell by my contant use of   "  ,  "
[12:57] <Clifford_> hi everyone, i have problems extracting and installing xampp.tar.gz. Any help is appreciated
[12:57] <kalekip1> asdf-: "was deleted"? Did you delete it?
[12:57] <asdf-> kalekip1, yes, manually. i thought it was created by an install script
[12:57] <kalekip1> Clifford_: Web development? Use LAMP.
[12:58] <asdf-> kalekip1, did you really have to put me on the spot like that ;)
[12:58] <kalekip1> Clifford_: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[12:58] <sulo__> cfhowlett - thanks a lot :) It seems I must google it to find more informations :)
[12:58] <Clifford_> kalekipl: isn't it the same thing
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: why do you need the file?
[12:58] <kalekip1> Clifford_: I know, do you really want XAMP that much?
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> !lamp | Clifford_
[12:59] <sulo__> cfhowlett - now wayyy Ubuntu 4.10 oh my good do you think It can work with my netbook? :D
[12:59] <kalekip1> XAMP is for Cross-Platform. that's the X. The L stands for Linux
[12:59] <Clifford_> kalekipl: yes i do. I need to use mysql
[12:59] <fede1208> ciao
[12:59] <fede1208> !list
[12:59] <cfhowlett> sulo__, netbook?  xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04 would be my recommendation.
[12:59] <Pici> !xampp | Clifford_
[13:00] <almostworking> sulo__, you need a light distro or something?  version 4?
[13:00] <kalekip1> Pici: LAMP is easier
[13:00] <Clifford_> ActionPalsnip: I think its the same thing
[13:00] <Clifford_> t
[13:00] <Pici> kalekip1: thats my point.
[13:00] <Clifford_> ubutto: let me check it out
[13:00] <cfhowlett> sulo__, both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.  do NOT use old/unsupported distros.
[13:00] <kalekip1> Clifford_: Many people don't know that ubotto is a bot. It's not a joke x)
[13:01] <sulo__> cfhowlett , nah I completed upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 having some troubles with it but finaly my machine is very new :)
[13:01] <traplin> is there anyway to use the BCM43211 chipster (for wireless), without using ndiswrapper? as in a natively supported driver for Linux?
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: yes bt its a package and makes things easier for you
[13:01] <traplin> chipset*
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: you dont need any 3rd party stuff
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: the how to explains it all and gives the commands to run and you will get what you desire
[13:02] <sulo__> cfhowlett - I am thinking about Blackubuntu - CD but one man recommended me virtualisation program....
[13:02] <almostworking> traplin, not be sound like a knob, but u can get intel   or other brand internal wifi radio for your laptop on ebay?  wifi N , etc ?
[13:02] <asdf-> can anyone tell me how to recreate the www-data group?
[13:02] <almostworking> if u really want to make things easier, that is
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> sulo__: xubuntu and lubuntu are light and suppored here. Blackbuntu is not supported here in any way
[13:02] <cfhowlett> sulo__, I have no basis to compare so ... no opinion.
[13:03] <traplin> almostworking: i am on a desktop, and unfortunately not, i want to see if i can first get my USB dongel to work before buying a different device
[13:03] <almostworking> sulo__, why woudl you want to run bbuntu?
[13:03] <sulo__> almostworking - to be honest I heard about some cracking and they shown that in blackubuntu :D
[13:03] <kalekip1> asdf-: No idea, I'm sorry. What's your Ubuntu version?
[13:03] <dtcrshr> Rory: I got no such option
[13:03] <Clifford_> ActionPalsnip: in what way is it easier?
[13:04] <sulo__> almostworking - I mean cracking Router's setup :)
[13:04] <almostworking> oh, ok traplin ,  i got a $14 USB small wifi for my desktp a long time ago works great ,  Airlink101  is brand. some other nice ones out there too with excellent linux support
[13:04] <dtcrshr> the first one is "run ubuntu live"
[13:04] <traplin> almostworking: it did work, but then i installed a newer kernel (to deal with heavy performance / cpu issues). but that broke the ndiswrapper and basically it can be fixed
[13:04] <mjayk> traplin: wireless usb dongles are one of the only hardware parts that still have awful linux support i think ndiswrapper may be your only option
[13:04] <almostworking> sulo__, oh, well ud prob. be best to use a VM for that kinda thing.
[13:04] <traplin> almostworking: oh okay. i can look into that
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> sulo__: cracking wifi is also not supported her
[13:04] <Clifford_> kalekipl: oh! a bot huh! no wonder
[13:05] <kalekip1> Clifford_: my name clearly ends with a "one" (1)
[13:05] <traplin> mjayk: yeah got it to work with ndiswrapper on the kernel packed with 13.04, but with a newer kernel, it didn't work anymore
[13:05] <almostworking> its woth it, i still use mine traplin , it comes in handy, i dont need it since i redid entire houses networking.
[13:05] <almostworking> it is worth it*
[13:05] <almostworking> only $11 - $15
[13:05] <traplin> almostworking: think i could get it in South Africa?
[13:05] <sulo__> ActionsPalsnip - Ii already tried some drivers for my wifi because my wifi card doesnt support natively injection of packets but It didnt work for me :(
[13:05] <mjayk> traplin: any reason you upgraded your kernal ? if no specific reason you may be better of switching back
[13:05] <kalekip1> Clifford_: You can also do: (type) "kal" + (press) [tab]
[13:05] <Rory> dtcrshr: What options do you have? There should be "Try Ubuntu without installing", "Install Ubuntu" and an option to check the medium for errors
[13:05] <almostworking> traplin, yea, you have ebay there yes?
[13:06] <traplin> almostworking: yeah but shipping here is a bit of a risk. lots of things get stolen :/
[13:06] <almostworking> oh i assumed you had a local ebay there.
[13:06] <Clifford_> kalekip1: sorry about that, i didn't notice
[13:06] <traplin> almostworking: unfortunately not. but i am looking online now
[13:06] <traplin> thanks for the help
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> sulo__: what wifi chip does it use ?
[13:06] <kalekip1> Clifford_: Don't worry :p
[13:06] <mjayk> almostworking: do i detect sarcasm :D
[13:07] <almostworking> you dont know anyone that is state side traplin , send you a wifi USB maybe some other stuff in a teady bear , or something?
[13:07] <sulo__> ActionPalsnip - if you mean Atheros 9285 is it right, now I have driver ath5k.sys right now
[13:07] <traplin> almostworking: haha unfortunately not. is the airlink supported out of the box?
[13:07] <traplin> i found one on amazon, which ships to south africa fairly safely
[13:08] <Clifford_> now about extraction and installation, does someone have any idea on how to go about it
[13:08] <tucemiux> anybody knows if the gtx 660 works on ubuntu with the hdmi connection?
[13:08] <[Gentoo]> tucemiux: why shouldnt it
[13:08] <mjayk> tucemiux: afaik yes no reason why it shouldnt
[13:08] <Rory> Clifford_: What are you trying to do?
[13:08] <almostworking> the airlink 101 adapter i have , im sure they make more then one has worked with 95% of the distros i have tried.  linux mint 12 i think didnt like it  but other then that every debian based distro i have put at it ....... worked fine
[13:08] <tucemiux> [Gentoo], because ive been trying it and it doesn't work
[13:08] <sulo__> ActionPalsnip- If you know command to show informations about my devices you can tell it me now I cant remember how It was
[13:08] <[Gentoo]> tucemiux: the drivers support that card
[13:09] <Clifford_> Rory:  I am trying to extract and install xampp
[13:09] <Clifford_> Rory: or lampp
[13:09] <almostworking> edimax is another that is popular, i think thats based of memory  people also use them for rasberry Pi . which im working on now after i get my dual boot done.
[13:09] <tucemiux> [Gentoo],  would you happen to know how to install the drivers because im trying whats on the forum from what obuttu tells me and it's not working on my machine
[13:09] <tucemiux> !nvidia
[13:09] <mjayk> almostworking: do edimax use ralink chips ?
[13:10] <[Gentoo]> my gf uses the tiny edimax usb
[13:10] <mjayk> tucemiux: what drivers are you currently using
[13:10] <[Gentoo]> dont work without downloading the driver
[13:10] <almostworking> i really dont know mjayk , i just know that its supported hardware for rasberry pi. which most people run debian based distros on
[13:11] <almostworking> ahhhh, see [Gentoo] knows what im talking about
[13:11] <almostworking> the airlink is the same way, just works  " out of the box" so to speak
[13:11] <Rory> !lamp | Clifford_ read this information
[13:11] <tucemiux> mjayk,  according to the forum, the first thing i should try is  System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, which is not installed on my machine, so i went to the software center and installed the current drivers, now i have really small resolution that cant be changed
[13:12] <almostworking> never gonna get back to my PS3 game,  i just wanted a URL for dual bootin since the ubuntu installer cant shrink my NTFS without windows freaking out?
[13:12] <almostworking> i might switch out this hard drive in this thinkpad anyway thou , hmmm.
[13:12] <mjayk> tucemiux: the system admin hardware drivers way is out of date
[13:12] <mjayk> tucemiux: try this
[13:12] <mjayk> tucemiux: sudo apt-get install arandr
[13:13] <mjayk> tucemiux: then run arandar from terminal
[13:14] <mjayk> tucemiux: arandr
[13:15] <Clifford_> Rory:  I have read the info. Can it be done with an outdated version of ubuntu
[13:15] <tucemiux> mjayk, will that help me install the drivers?  The first time I tried it xrandr only had one resolution available, i reimaged the machine,  tried installing the drivers and now im back tow here i started, i booted up to safemode and im currently running a check disk
[13:15] <Rory> Clifford_: no
[13:15] <Rory> Clifford_: How outdated? What version?
[13:15] <Clifford_> Rory: 11.04
[13:15] <Rory> No
[13:16] <traplin> are wifi PCI cards supported mostly by Ubuntu?
[13:16] <Rory> You will need to upgrade to 12.04 or later, in order to be able to download from the repositories
[13:16] <mjayk> tucemiux: arandr should allow you to select the correct res once you have the drivers installed
[13:16] <asdf-> what is the best way to recreate the user & group 'www-data'?
[13:16] <almostworking> traplin, i dunno, a good brand is a safe bet thou.
[13:16] <Rory> traplin: Yes, it doesn't matter if it's PCI or whatever, the part that matters is the wireless chipset
[13:17] <tucemiux> mjayk, the trick is "once you have the drivers" installed.  How do I know if I have the drivers installed?
[13:17] <traplin> Rory: is there possibly a page that has a list of supported chipsets?
[13:17] <kalekip1> !repeat | asdf-
[13:18] <Rory> traplin: Tale a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[13:18]  * almostworking is curious what Clifford_  needs to do......
[13:18] <traplin> Rory: thank you
[13:18] <Rory> traplin: generally, Ralink 2500/RT2400 (802.11G), Realtek RTL8180 (802.11G), and the Atheros AR9170 chipset (802.11N)
[13:18] <Clifford_> Rory: ok, thanks
[13:18] <Rory> traplin: If I were you I'd avoid Broadcom chipsets if you have the option
[13:19] <almostworking> oh is Clifford_ lookin for supported wifi too ?
[13:19] <traplin> Rory: yeah, i have a USB broadcom chipset, so i am seeing if i can get a realtek one now
[13:19] <Rory> No almostworking he is trying to install Apache etc
[13:19] <almostworking> oh ok
[13:20] <tucemiux> mjayk, how is arandr supposed to change my resolution when it only has one available(640x480)
[13:20] <mjayk> tucemiux: you said you had drivers installed
[13:21] <mjayk> tucemiux: there are many ways to install drivers either through the software center or through the vender website
[13:21] <Clifford_> almostworking: supported wifi? seriously?
[13:22] <tucemiux> mjayk, that's what im trying to do, I asked for help installing the drivers - I showed you the first step I did in my attempt and now I have low resolution
[13:22] <traplin> Rory: http://www.dlink.com/us/en/support/product/dwa-121-wireless-n-150-pico-usb-adapter , would that possibly work with Ubuntu on a different kernel to the generic?
[13:23] <mjayk> tucemiux: then you did it incorrectly, what version of ubuntu are you using
[13:24] <tucemiux> mjayk, i installed the 'current driver' using the software center, rebooted the machine and now am on low graphics
[13:24] <almostworking> lots of talk in here Clifford_  , im tried trying to keep up, some people might not want to dive into CLI to get wifi working, and just spend $10 , if thats the seriously part
[13:24] <mjayk> tucemiux: again what version of ubuntu are you using
[13:24] <coalwater> tucemiux: you have a dual graphics card ? ati ?
[13:24] <almostworking> im also tired, and never got my dual boot on
[13:24] <tucemiux> codename: raring
[13:24] <gallois> Hello... I'm facing a problem while automatically setting my timezone with a configuration manager since around last month. I used to copy the /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix file to /etc/localtime and since my last change in configuration, that is yesterday, it broke and I had my clock set to UTC. The last working configuration was from Sep. 05, using an auto generated AWS AMI with the latest updates (raring release). On further investigation, I found that the f
[13:24] <gallois> that I used to copy was now turned to a symbolic link, while previously it was a regular file. I tried to find a changelog for these updates online but failed. Can someone tell me if there were changes in that respect or where can I find the changes on release updates? Thanks in advance.
[13:24] <tucemiux> mjayk, raring 3.8.0-30-lowlatency
[13:25] <tucemiux> coalwater, no, i have an nvidia gtx 660
[13:25] <mjayk> tucemiux: so in the "current drivers" menu you had more than one to choosefrom ?
[13:25] <coalwater> I thought nvidia was easier on ubuntu with the bumblebee project
[13:26] <tucemiux> mjayk, in the software center- yes but how do I check to see what's currently installed?  I had the vga drivers and that at least gave me a usable resolution
[13:26] <mjayk> tucemiux: to find out what you installed go back to current drivers and look whats selected
[13:27] <coalwater> gallois: why not just recofigure it using `sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` ?
[13:28] <almostworking> if you have inxi installed tucemiux you can output ur diver info into the channel....... /exec -o inxi -Gx
[13:28] <tucemiux> mjayk, im not sure what you mean about going back to "look whats selected"?  You mean in the software center?  That's what they are called, the drivers are called "Nvidia binary X.Org driver('current' driver)"
[13:28] <mjayk> tucemiux: yes and there are more to select from ?
[13:28] <gallois> coalwater: I did that to fix the servers that are running, but since I use autoscale to handle the traffic, my next servers will now launch with a wrong tz setting
[13:28] <tucemiux> almostworking, im using my laptop to irc, I can't irc on my desktop because of the tiny resolution
[13:28] <[1]Roach> Hi everyone, I have a question
[13:29] <kalekip1> Hi, [1]Roach.
[13:29] <tucemiux> mjayk, sorry if I didnt tell you this already but yes - the software center gives me 3 options, version 96, current driver, and version 173
[13:29] <kalekip1> !details | [1]Roach
[13:29] <gallois> coalwater: I'm intending to change the puppet files that copy the file to deal with the modifications, but I would also like to know where can I find out about those changes
[13:29] <almostworking> ah ok......  tucemiux . well when ur on your computer in terminal you can do  inxi -Gx  and that will output your display information.
[13:30] <almostworking> just fyi
[13:30] <almostworking> other stuff inxi does too
[13:30] <[1]Roach> I'm trying to run Ubuntu 13.04 along side windows 8 but everytime I load it my screen goes full black and nothing happens afterwards
[13:31] <DJones> !nomodeset | [1]Roach This sounds like a starting point for black screen problems,
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: what video chip do you have?
[13:32] <tucemiux> almostworking, inxi is not a package known to my ubuntu o.O
[13:32] <[1]Roach> Okay thank you, and I have no clue right now I just woke up
[13:33] <coalwater> gallois, I dont really know where the settings are, sry, tried `locate` but couldn't find a config file
[13:33] <almostworking> yea, i just realized that, my primary OS isnt ubuntu , im in a VM and trying to figure out best way to dual boot on a thinkpad i just got
[13:33]  * almostworking has a VM to handle specific things
[13:33] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: does the system have a make and model?
[13:33] <UNIm95> hi 2all
[13:34] <kalekip1> Welcome, UNIm95.
[13:34] <almostworking> anyway, u can wget inxi  , off the top of my head i cant say the long string to do that thou ,
[13:34] <tucemiux> almostworking, what do you mean the "best way" to dual boot?  Get 2 hard drives and dual boot.  You dont have 2 hard drives?  Then what do you currently have?
[13:34] <Rory> tucemiux: what is the outpur of "inxi -Gx" ? Can you put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:34] <tucemiux> inxi: command not found
[13:34] <almostworking> its a Thinkpad, it has one drive and its  a X61 so cant really do two hard drives tucemiux
[13:34] <almostworking> x61
[13:34] <gallois> coalwater: it's cool... I can work around it, no problem at all, was just trying to track it down to its source so I can be more robust from now on :)
[13:35] <Rory> tucemiux: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[13:35] <coalwater> Currently i have 2 ufei os'es win7 and ubuntu, by default i none of the 2 would book, the grub wouldn't start, i need to press f10 on the boot and explictly choose grub,otherwise it will hang on black screen, already tried boot-repair twice, no change, any idea anyone ?
[13:35] <kalekip1> tucemiux: I have 1 HDD (1 TB) and used 3 NTFS partitions. 1 Linux, 1 Windows and another 1 for everything else.
[13:35] <tucemiux> Rory, raring 13.04
[13:36] <[1]Roach> yes It is a Lenovo Ideapad N580
[13:36] <tucemiux> almostworking,  before you do anything, I suggest you backup your hard drive unless you have recovery CD's for you thinkpad, then I can show you what you need to do without having to worry if you hose your laptop
[13:36] <[1]Roach> pre installed with windows 8
[13:36] <almostworking> i already did a image of windows install via ssh into desktop machine,
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: so you can maybe use the web to find out, or check windows device manager......
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: nothing tricky, right?
[13:37] <tucemiux> almostworking, how is your hard drive partition right now ?
[13:37] <almostworking> the thinkpad,  pure windows right now, ive not touched it yet.
[13:38] <almostworking> so one big NTFS partition.
[13:39] <gallois> is there any resources where I can find the changelog of each update of a specific release, e.g. raring?
[13:39] <[1]Roach> well when the screen is all black like the computer is off I can hear the login sound of Ubuntu
[13:39] <DJones> !changelog | gallois Not sure if this is what you want,
[13:39] <kalekip1> [1]Roach: Something wrong with your monitor?
[13:40] <User400> stu "d!ckless" lantz betrays all; trannys + queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule; andrea hylton/tranny, frederick  clarence hardison/queer, Q bama, statelocalgov.net, usa.gov, nndb.com, votesmart.org, cia.gov (world leaders), forbes.com/lists
[13:40] <User400> gone
[13:40] <kalekip1> !language
[13:41] <alpha_> how can I download the latest update for ubuntu 12.04.3 ?
[13:41] <tucemiux> almostworking, since you tell me you just installed windows and led me to believe you can reinstall without a problem - I also warned you about backing up your files but haven't said anything about whether its ok to continue in case you have to reimage your windows os
[13:41] <kalekip1> alpha_: Do you mean: sudo apt-get update ?
[13:41] <coalwater> kalekip1: maybe he means the latest iso
[13:41] <[1]Roach> I'm thinking it is something wrong with the laptop itself
[13:42] <UNIm95> Alpha_ apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:42] <kalekip1> [1]Roach: Yes, the monitor I think.
[13:42] <gallois> DJones: ;) many thanks
[13:42] <coalwater> alpha_: do you mean an iso or upgrading ur current installation ?
[13:42] <alpha_> kalejip1 : I do that but ubuntu is not update yet ...
[13:42] <UNIm95> Updates will be downloaded and installed
[13:42] <kalekip1> alpha_: Are you still installing Ubuntu?
[13:42] <alpha_> kalekip1 : yes
[13:43] <kalekip1> alpha_: You can update it later...
[13:43] <kalekip1> alpha_: Just get the correct ISO
[13:43] <[1]Roach> I'll have to go and get it checked then. Thank you everyone for all the help.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> alpha_, you have to sudo apt-get upgrade, as well
[13:43] <alpha_> should I change the repository settings ?
[13:43] <almostworking> i never said i just installed windows tucemiux ,  i have it sorted out, appreciate your concern thou,  i have 6TB of storage on the desktop ,  i just havent had windows on a personal machine dual booting since ubuntu v6
[13:43] <tucemiux> anyone knows what happened to the software sources ?
[13:44] <kalekip1> tucemiux: What do you mean? Which software sources?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> tucemiux  meaning?
[13:44] <UNIm95> Tucemiux they are hidden in synaptic
[13:45] <tucemiux> almostworking, its a lot easier nowadays doing the dual boot but you always have to be careful, I installed linux first and then windows, I have 2 hard drives, all I had to do is install ubuntu, then windows, update grub, finished !
[13:45] <tucemiux> UNIm95, thanks ill give it a look see
[13:45] <alpha_> my screen brightness did not work as well i use the fn key ...  ?
[13:46] <UNIm95> Tucemiux it is in preferences-repository
[13:46] <tucemiux> UNIm95, right you are, theyre hidden in synaptic, I finally found them
[13:47] <UNIm95> Tucemiux in xubuntu they are in menu-system
[13:47] <tucemiux> UNIm95, its in synaptic, I found it
[13:48] <UNIm95> Ok=)
[13:48] <tucemiux> anyone knows what nvidia drivers I should be using for a gtx 660??  I'm looking at "Additional Drivers" in "software & Updates"
[13:49] <mjayk> tucemiux: im sure if u google that youd get a btter answer
[13:50] <tucemiux> mjayk, goggle brings me a lot of stuff that doesn't work anymore, even ubottu is of now help nowadays
[13:50] <alpha_> How can I install software with apt-get much faster ? Its very Slow
[13:50] <almostworking> hmmm, usually I install windows first, the grub of the past didnt like sharing the MBR with liunx.
[13:50] <mjayk> tucemiux: well the fist link on google seams to be good to be
[13:50] <mjayk> *me
[13:50] <tucemiux> alpha_, get a faster internet connection, preferably close to the source
[13:51] <mjayk> tucemiux: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[13:51] <alpha_> tucemiux : How do it ?
[13:51] <UNIm95> Alpha_ what is slow? apt download evrything from internet. So it is so fast as your internet
[13:51] <almostworking> but this thinkpad doesnt have anything important on it, its a fraction of the storage of my desktop which stores almost everything,  off site backup  , but to keep it simple,  desktop is the main machine in the house
[13:52] <tucemiux> mjayk, that looks really neat, thanks for the link!  I'm going to try the noveau display driver first
[13:53] <alpha_> UNIm95 : The download speed of the apt-get is about 1/10 my real internet speed
[13:53] <Riskwrq> hi
[13:53] <Riskwrq> Anyone frm India/
[13:53] <Riskwrq> m indian
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> alpha_  try this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt
[13:53] <ikonia> Riskwrq: the location of people doesn't matter in this channel.
[13:53] <tucemiux> alpha_, call your cable company and tell then you want a T1 line.  Preferably, just move to a place that's close to the ubuntu servers and get a T1 line in your new dig
[13:53] <Riskwrq> ok
[13:53] <mooncake>  it's quite weird. afaik, ubuntu's servers are fast
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> !in
[13:53] <UNIm95> Alpha_ it is problem of repository server.
[13:53] <Riskwrq> but m saying im indian
[13:53] <Riskwrq> ok
[13:54] <ikonia> Riskwrq: ok, thanks for letting us nknow
[13:54] <tucemiux> !hello | Riskwrq
[13:54] <tucemiux> !hi | Riskwrq
[13:54] <tucemiux> !hello
[13:54] <ikonia> tucemiux: we get it
[13:54] <alpha_> thanks
[13:55] <tucemiux> ikonia, how do we get the messages for new users? hi and hello is not working
[13:55] <ikonia> tucemiux: those factoids may have been removes as you don't really need a bot to say hello
[13:55] <kalekip1> !in | Riskwrq
[13:55] <kalekip1> Oh
[13:55] <kalekip1> already said
[13:56] <DJones> tucemiux: The best way is just to say "hello" rather than using a bot prompt, it makes it more personal
[13:56] <Riskwrq> ok
[13:56] <philinux> tucemiux: !ask
[13:56] <kalekip1> True ;)
[13:56] <almostworking> well i best be off, much to do.............
[13:56] <tucemiux> ikonia, actually,  it's very useful, I can just say hello to the user instead of having to explain to him this is a support channel etc. etc.
[13:56] <kalekip1> !ot
[13:58] <UNIm95> Question: what is official language of this channel?
[13:58] <Riskwrq> !in
[13:58] <DJones> UNIm95: English
[13:59] <tucemiux> DJones, but when youre helping somebody and someone is helping you - you dont really have the time to be "personal" with someone that is politely starting with the pleasantries - just go ahead your question, if someone can help you - they will help you, if not then just wait
[13:59] <tucemiux> just my 2 cents though, a lot has changed and haven't really kept up with the changes
[14:00] <UNIm95> Djones and why we can not use here other languages? English should be on #ubuntu-en.
[14:00] <theblindowl> blackberry messanger exclusive on samsung phones.. crap
[14:01] <mnemon> UNIm95: because speaking 100 different languages on a single channel simply doesn't work, and english is the default.
[14:02] <DJones> UNIm95: Its been that way since I started using Ubuntu with 6.06, the majority of other languages have individual channels, it helps avoid confusion having single language channels
[14:02] <UNIm95> ok
[14:03] <tucemiux> mjayk, i'm stuck on "Applying changes..." you think that's a good sign? :-(
[14:03] <abradley> I cannot sudo apt-get update or even ping www.google.com. What is my problem? http://i.imgur.com/udRPS7f.png
[14:03] <abradley> I am ssh in
[14:03] <abradley> gateway and nameserver are set correctly
[14:04] <mnemon> abradley: can you ping the gateway and do you get a response from nslookup www.google.com
[14:04] <alephant> Hi all
[14:05] <abradley> ping gateway yes
[14:05] <abradley> nslookup no
[14:05] <mnemon> do you get a response from ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:05] <UNIm95> abradley chek your dns
[14:05] <UNIm95> Check*
[14:06] <alephant> I need to install the same server repeatedly with a base ubuntu-server image, with some specific (but not overly complicated) RAID/LVM partition layout. In the current environment setting up a PXE infrastructure is not an option; I need to install from a DVD. Is there an easy way to create a custom DVD that will set up my disks and install automatically?
[14:09] <philinux> tucemiux: hoe long has it been stuck
[14:10] <jhutchins> alephant: Yes.
[14:10] <jhutchins> !preseed
[14:10] <alephant> jhutchins: googling, thx [multitasking ftl]
[14:11] <defaultro> morning folks. I was given this string last week and was told to make sure it's installed "php5-curl build-essential".  I got php5-curl installed. What about build-essential, what is it?
[14:11] <alephant> my load is too high :-(
[14:11] <alephant> thrashing
[14:11] <jhutchins> alephant: debian, and I presume ubuntu, has preseed, which is a script like answer file that automates the install, specifies packages, and can perform scripted configuration.
[14:11] <helmut_> hi
[14:11] <kalekip1> !details | alephant
[14:11] <ak5> defaultro: you need it to build stuff
[14:12] <defaultro> ?
[14:12] <ak5> defaultro: for ubuntu or certain applications
[14:12] <kalekip1> oops
[14:12] <No_One> defaultro, build-essential gives the default coding languages compiler stuff, like gcc etc
[14:12] <kalekip1> wrong guy
[14:12] <alephant> kalekip1: *I* am thrashing; *my* load is too high :-/
[14:12] <defaultro> is it something that i need to install?
[14:12] <kalekip1> alephant: sorry, wrong person, I wanted to send it to defaultro
[14:12] <jhutchins> alephant: I haven't used it, but I use kickstart in RHEL/Centos a lot.  We serve the kickstart file from a web server within the network, and manually specify the kickstart and the ip address at boot.
[14:12] <No_One> most definitely defaultro
[14:12] <defaultro> what is it called?
[14:12] <philinux> defaultro: it is if you intend to compile from source
[14:12] <alephant> jhutchins: yep, but for reasons that aren't important that stuff isn't an option in this particular case
[14:12] <No_One> build-essential or build-essentials
[14:12]  * No_One looks
[14:13] <jhutchins> alephant: In other environments I have re-mastered the CD to include the kickstart file, giving me a (dangerous) drop-in, reboot, and autobuild CD.
[14:13]  * kalekip1 grims
[14:13] <defaultro> you mean, build php5-curl from source?
[14:13] <No_One> build-essential - Informational list of build-essential packages
[14:13] <alephant> jhutchins: oh wow, that's an awesome-yet-terrible idea ;-)
[14:13] <ak5> defaultro: ok, your instructions mean to run "sudo apt-get install php5-curl build-essential"
[14:13] <defaultro> oh so it's a package?
[14:13] <No_One> yes
[14:13] <defaultro> ah, I didm;t know it was a package :)
[14:13] <defaultro> installing it now
[14:13] <No_One> ok
[14:13] <No_One> have fun
[14:14] <jhutchins> alephant: You'll want a red Sharpie to label it "DANGER!".
[14:14] <defaultro> installation completed :)
[14:14] <defaultro> thanks guys
[14:14] <No_One> np
[14:14] <No_One> o/
[14:14] <defaultro> the instruction was confusion. I had all other packages in each bullet
[14:14] <defaultro> was confusing
[14:14] <No_One> heh
[14:14] <philinux> defaultro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[14:15] <defaultro> only php5-curl had build-essential on its side. Not sure why they did it that way
[14:15]  * No_One compiles many things by source
[14:15] <defaultro> k
[14:15] <philinux> defaultro: what are you trying to do
[14:15] <defaultro> just prepping a machine for drupal
[14:16] <defaultro> i'm just following notes provided to us
[14:16] <No_One> when someone gives you a list and says install these "list of package" its "(sudo) apt-get install "list of packages"
[14:16] <No_One> o,o
[14:16] <ak5> defaultro: take a look at ansible. Do it once, never do it ever again
[14:16] <defaultro> k
[14:18] <mao__> ubuntu-cn   is not used ??
[14:19]  * mooncake is preteding dead
[14:19] <DJones> mao__: Yes it is for Chinese language support, it may be a bit quiet though depending on how many users are at their computers at the moment
[14:19] <defaultro> also, i install LAMP via tasked. How do I check if the mysql that was installed have PDO support?
[14:19] <defaultro> installed^
[14:20] <kalekip1> defaultro: phpinfo();
[14:20] <defaultro> cool
[14:20] <quick-> hi < How can i see the current time on a linux terminal ?
[14:20] <defaultro> forgot that one :)
[14:20] <larryapple3> ANyome fron India/
[14:20] <larryapple3> manu: ?
[14:20] <kalekip1> quick: @time
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !in | larryapple3
[14:21] <larryapple3> anyone from India/
[14:21] <larryapple3> guess not
[14:21] <kalekip1> BluesKaj: ty, just wanted to do the same
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Miss America
[14:21] <quick-> kalekip1: The time shows the resource usage not the localtime.
[14:21] <Indian> larryapple3: me
[14:22] <cfhowlett> quick-, try date
[14:22] <philinux> quick-: type in date
[14:22] <kalekip1> quick-: in the IRC chat, right?
[14:22] <kalekip1> @time amsterdam
[14:22] <quick-> cfhowlett: date it is !
[14:22] <kalekip1> Works like a charm.
[14:22] <kalekip1> !ot
[14:22] <defaultro> sweet -> PDO drivers	mysql
[14:23] <quick-> kalekip1: Nope i said in a terminal . date is the command .
[14:23] <jundoe> !seen laptop
[14:23] <jundoe> !help
[14:23] <kalekip1> quick-: Sorry, I think too much :p
[14:23] <larryapple3> Indian:  reply
[14:23] <quick-> kalekip1: That's fine :D
[14:23] <larryapple3> !graphics
[14:23] <larryapple3> !idia
[14:24] <Indian> larryapple3: reply for what? :)
[14:24] <larryapple3> Indian:  i sent u a mesage
[14:24] <kalekip1> larryapple3: Go to #ubuntu-bots to play with ubottu
[14:24] <BluesKaj> lar if you have a question , ask
[14:24] <BluesKaj> larryapple3: ^
[14:24] <larryapple3> ok
[14:24] <Indian> larryapple3: I didnt het them...
[14:24] <larryapple3> sorry
[14:24] <larryapple3> sent me one
[14:24] <larryapple3> try it
[14:25] <larryapple3> sorry guys :p
[14:25] <Indian> larryapple3: my problem... cable irc is very limited...
[14:26] <Indian> I'll be back soon
[14:26] <larryapple3> ah
[14:26] <larryapple3> ok
[14:26] <larryapple3> ineiros_:
[14:26] <larryapple3> :)
[14:27] <thebishop> are there any unity plugins that allow for groups/folders in Launcher?
[14:27] <thebishop> i.e. "Music Apps", "Browsers", "Media Players", etc
[14:28] <Indian_> larryapple3, now
[14:29] <philinux> thebishop: yes it called drawers - http://iloveubuntu.net/how-easily-group-items-featuring-their-own-mini-dash-unity-launcher-drawers
[14:32] <thebishop> philinux, THANKS THANKS THANKS
[14:32] <philinux> thebishop: iirc there's also unity-launcher-editor but never used it
[14:33] <mjayk> philinux: thebishop unity-tweak-tool i believe its a must
[14:33] <thebishop> mjayk, thanks
[14:33] <philinux> mjayk: already installed
[14:33] <mjayk> philinux: ah did i get the wrong end of the stick sorry if so :)
[14:34] <larryapple3> oh no
[14:34] <larryapple3> he left
[14:34] <larryapple3> :(
[14:35] <philinux> mjayk: no worries it's just a settings manager
[14:35] <johann> somebody using linuxbox?
[14:35] <larryapple3> indian
[14:35] <larryapple3> ?
[14:37] <mfilipe> hi! I wanna install the java oracle in a 64bits machine but I wanna use 32bits version. How can I do that?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, 32 can install on 64 bit with no problem.
[14:38] <kalekip1> Yup, but not vice versa
[14:39] <philinux> mfilipe: ubuntu uses multiarch now.
[14:39] <kalekip1> 64 bit only means that the binaries can be twice as long
[14:39] <johann> kennt jemand linuxbox
[14:39] <kalekip1> johann, Englisch sprechen, bitte.
[14:39] <kalekip1> !de
[14:39] <johann> somebody knows linuxbox?
[14:39] <DJones> johann: What is linuxbox?
[14:39] <rizna> wat is dis
[14:40] <dan00b_river> Okay, I just documented my attempts at installing dokku on Ubuntu 12.04. Thought I'd share: http://blog.42quirks.com/install-dokku-on-amazon-ec2-ubuntu-12-04/
[14:40] <sidmontu> join ##fpga
[14:40] <kalekip1> !ot | dan00b_river
[14:40] <kalekip1> !ot
[14:40] <kalekip1> Where's ubottu? :S
[14:41] <kalekip1> !offtopic
[14:41] <Pici> kalekip1: lagging, be patient.
[14:41] <tester_> hey
[14:42] <kalekip1> Welcome, tester_.
[14:42] <tester_> what is gng on
[14:43] <mustmodify> I'm confused about when ~/.bashrc vs ~/.bash_login vs ~/.profile etc... can someone point me to a solid explanation?
[14:43] <philinux> tester_: this is a support channel
[14:43] <Jamo_> Hello, not sure if this is the correct place to ask but I am running Ubuntu 12.10 ans was wondering how I would go about altering the code for the pwd command. For example, where do I get the source from and what should I do while recompiling so it overwrites the current command?
[14:43] <Pici> Jamo_: Why on earth would you ever need to do that?
[14:44] <Rory> Jamo_: What result are you trying to achieve?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> Jamo_, download the source code from the repos and hack your little heart out.
[14:44] <mustmodify> Jamo_: I can pretty much guarantee, based on that question, that there is a better solution to your problem.
[14:44] <Jamo_> Currently I can't seem to find an option for pwd to add a backslash when there is a space in the folder path, I was going to add this feature for my use
[14:45] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: yeah, I know but I wanna install the java7 oracle 32bits package in a 64bits machine
[14:45] <mfilipe> but the package is for all archs
[14:45] <Jamo_> mustmodify: There probably is, but I can almost guaruntee I won't learn as much from it
[14:45] <mfilipe> look: http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/pool/main/o/oracle-java7-installer/
[14:45] <Pici> Jamo_: I'd define an alias to do that.  You seriously risk breaking things by modifying your shell's source to do that.
[14:45] <Rory> Jamo_: pwd | sed 's/\ /\\ /'
[14:45] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: I wanna force it to install the 32bits package
[14:45] <Jamo_> Pici: That's probably safer, but I don't really know much shell.
[14:46] <Jamo_> Although Rory's solution looks like it would work actually
[14:46] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, and sudo apt-get intall gives you >>> what?
[14:46] <tester_> how do i add new program in linux to create a new linux
[14:47] <Rory> Could you re-phrase that tester_ ?
[14:47] <mustmodify> there has got to be a tool you use to escape a string... pwd | something
[14:47] <Rory> mustmodify: read my answer above
[14:47] <Jamo_> Rory: I believe that woiuld only alter the first instance
[14:47] <Rory> Jamo_: pwd | sed 's/\ /\\ /g'
[14:48] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: it installs the 64bits package
[14:48] <Jamo_> Rory: Perfec, thank you
[14:48] <Jamo_> perfect*
[14:48] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, ah, well.  You could download the 32bit .deb and then sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[14:49] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: but the package downloads the java7 for 64bits through the oracle website :(
[14:50] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, go directly to oracle and download the 32bit file from them
[14:50] <bsdbandit> im running ubuntu server 10.04 LTS does cgroups work on ubuntu 10.04 or do i need to upgrade to 12.04
[14:50] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: and configure through java-alternatives?
[14:50] <bsdbandit> ?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, I've never done it, so that would only be my guess.
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|bsdbandit,
[14:51] <bsdbandit> i understand that i was just curious
[14:51] <bsdbandit> if anyone used cgroups
[14:51] <bsdbandit> in linux
[14:52] <mustmodify> I'm confused about when ~/.bashrc vs ~/.bash_login vs ~/.profile etc... can someone point me to a solid explanation?
[14:52] <Jamo_> Sorry to bother you again Rory, but the "pwd | sed 's/\ /\\/g'" command does not insert a space after the "\", meaning its not formatted correctly. How do I fix this?
[14:52] <Jamo_> Nevermind, was my mistake
[14:53] <Rory> Jamo_: I was going to say, what crazy sed are you running? Glad it's working
[14:53] <Jamo_> Rory: Haha, thanks for the help :)
[14:53] <bsdbandit> thanks guys im all set
[14:56] <abradley> Is there a tool that I can install with a gui to administer mysql users/dbs from the ubuntu 12 server command line?
[14:57] <kalekip1> abradley: PHPMyAdmin
[14:57] <kalekip1> nvm
[15:00] <apt-get_install> Hi, someone that is good at GVFS?
[15:00] <jackey_mi> /echo $io
[15:01] <jackey_mi> /echo kk
[15:01] <cfhowlett> abradley, ask in #ubuntu-server   ??
[15:03] <Pici> abradley: mysql-client
[15:04] <davidbrooke_> I'm looking to disable a kernel driver for a remote control....any ideas?
[15:04] <genii> davidbrooke_: Permanently or temporarily?
[15:05] <davidbrooke_> either for now
[15:06] <genii> davidbrooke_: Temporarily: just sudo modprobe -r <modulename>    ..permanently... put the module name in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[15:08] <mfilipe> how can I add an option to "update-alternatives --config javaplugin.so" ?
[15:10] <bkfitz> Does anyone know if there is an enable/disable for cron?  I have an entry in crontab -e that doesn't seem to be running as scheduled... and I don't see anything in my /var/log/syslog
[15:14] <whoever> hi all , i am tring to use DragSource.getDefaultDragSource(); but when i run the program i get an error that i cannot cast JVindow to transferable . but cannot seem to find any documentation , can someone assist ?  It is my understanding that transferable is the object that is being dragged
[15:15] <kalekip1> !details | whoever
[15:16] <whoever> ubottu: thx wrong chan post
[15:16] <genii> whoever: This seems more like a computer language issue than an ubuntu support question...
[15:16] <thephpx> hi all
[15:17] <kalekip1> genii: He just noticed. whoever: ubottu is literrary a bot.
[15:17] <larryapple3> hi cute ubottu
[15:17] <larryapple3> WIll u marry me ubottu
[15:17] <kalekip1> I woke him up
[15:17] <kalekip1> lol
[15:17] <whoever> ubottu: oh i alway thaugh you ran on windows :-)
[15:17] <otak> bkfitz: cron has a daemon: service cron status
[15:17] <Jamo_> What escape char is needed to put a command that contains single quotes into an alias? e.g alias test='command '/path/route''
[15:18] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Did you try \ ?
[15:18] <Jamo_> a backslash doesn't sem to work
[15:18] <thephpx> i am facing an issue with ubuntu 13.04 which i also encountered in 12.04 LTS ... it suddenly shows black screen with debug message amongst which it says unable to resolve kernel null pointer difference
[15:18] <thephpx> any idea what the issue is?
[15:19] <SwedeMike> thephpx: did anything special happen right before this?
[15:19] <mixto> olaa
[15:19] <thephpx> well one sure shot way to make it happen is to be on skype + teamviewer at the same time
[15:19] <Jamo_> kalekip1: If I use \ it gives me this error: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[15:19] <mixto> k dices
[15:19] <SwedeMike> thephpx: sounds like buggy hardware driver if it's reproducible like that.
[15:20] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Where are you putting it?
[15:20] <Pici> Jamo_: Maybe #bash would be a better place to ask
[15:20] <mixto> i live in spein
[15:20] <Jamo_> alias test='command \'/path/route\''
[15:20] <Jamo_> kalekip1:
[15:20] <mixto> hello
[15:20] <thephpx> hmm
[15:20] <thephpx> can memory be an issue as well?
[15:21] <thephpx> if so how can i run memory test on ubuntu?
[15:21] <SwedeMike> thephpx: yes, it might be hardware related as well.
[15:21] <mixto> were you from
[15:21] <thephpx> true hardware can also be an issue
[15:21] <SwedeMike> thephpx: at startup there is a memtest86 option usually (in GRUB)
[15:21] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Did you try to mix quotes and apsotrophes? (#bash can help you better)
[15:21] <mixto> nenes me cago lla kereis contestame de una puñetera vez
[15:22] <Jamo_> kalekip1: Yeah, I tried that. I'll ask there thanks
[15:22] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Good luck.
[15:22] <mixto> gili
[15:22] <kalekip1> mixto: English only, please.
[15:22] <mixto> ok
[15:22] <michagogo> !nextversion
[15:22] <michagogo> !13.10
[15:22] <mixto> hello
[15:23] <kalekip1> !es | mixto
[15:23] <mixto> eeei
[15:24] <mixto> you are silly
[15:24] <JoBArTe_Skuld> !br | $me
[15:24] <mixto> que no soy portugues soy español
[15:27] <padhu> Hi Ubuntians, I need an laternative to Garmin mapsource & base camp. Please suggest me good one
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> !gps | padhu like this?
[15:29] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone please tell me how I can remove my personal bin folder from the beginning of path to the end of it?
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> /home/wiz/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games <== i don't want that :)
[15:30] <sl-pr> hi...
[15:31] <karab44> hello people
[15:31] <karab44> how to change this /media/albert/e65e072a-6eca-4d53-baa7-3921df220c4d/ into something more readable?
[15:31] <karab44> It is a Raid0 matrix
[15:32] <karab44> where the path is /dev/mapper/isw_cbhgecejcj_Volume0p1
[15:32] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[15:38] <proph> greetings, I am a new ubuntu user and i am experiencing some problems with my wifi conection can anyone help me or tell me where i could ask for some help? Thanks a lot
[15:39] <clue_h> what happens
[15:41] <proph> at first wifi kept on disconnecting but after searching i found this command "sudo dpkg -i bcmwl*.deb" that fixed the problem but i still think something is wrong
[15:42] <otak> Wiz_KeeD: look in ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile for the line PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH", then change it
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> I just echoed $path
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> and redefined it without my dir
[15:42] <john_doe_jr> How do you use halt?
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> hope that's good
[15:43] <otak> it's good til next login
[15:45] <vemacs> is anybody here familiar with LXC? the #lxcontainers channel seems a bit.. dead?
[15:45] <Semen_Dickman> how do i install ubuntu in my twblet nuggazz
[15:46] <larryapple3> padhu: ?
[15:48] <vemacs> Well, I'll just go and ask
[15:48] <vemacs> Hi, I've started up a container using LXC Web Panel and manually
[15:48] <vemacs> and am wanting it to bind to one of my assigned IPs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117533/
[15:48] <vemacs> how would I do that? the bridge works from inside to out
[15:48] <vemacs> but using one of those IPs just connects to the host box, when trying SSH
[15:48] <vemacs> how would I assign one of those IPs to the container, and access the container thru SSH?
[15:49] <vemacs> here's the config for that container: http://i.imgur.com/cGLjMze.png
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> !enter | vemacs
[15:49] <vemacs> Could try. Was copying line-by line.
[15:49] <Semen_Dickman> anabdy plz ansr me wnt 2 instl ubntu in his tblt
[15:49] <Semen_Dickman> yoooo
[15:50] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: you can edit that setting in you ~/.bashrc. Then 'source ~/.bashrc'.  Does that help?
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD> i looked in there nothing looks like something useful for the path bwayne
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD> I saw the post myself
[15:51] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: you mean the PATH variable doesn't appear in .bashrc?
[15:51] <Semen_Dickman> where to get crack for ubuntu..i want to unlock the professional version settings
[15:51] <vemacs> obvious troll?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> Semen_Dickman  ubuntu is open source, no need to "crack"
[15:52] <Semen_Dickman> like i want to buy games.for.free in the software center
[15:52] <kalekip1> Semen_Dickman: Get lost.
[15:52] <Pricey> Semen_Dickman: If you're going to ask questions, please ask serious questions.
[15:52] <Semen_Dickman> its not free worldnofngoo is paid.game.
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Semen_Dickman  how legal is that?
[15:53] <kalekip1> Semen_Dickman: This is a great community, but if you want to talk about piracy, I suggest you to leave this channel.
[15:53] <Semen_Dickman> me.no prate me wnt gms.fr fre
[15:54] <HackerII> get a job
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> Semen_Dickman  wrong channel
[15:54] <Pricey> anyway
[15:54] <Semen_Dickman> wht noo wrld.of.go is.hig prc
[15:55] <kalekip1> !ot
[15:56] <kalekip1> !guidelines | Semen_Dickman
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  don't give the kid any more attention
[15:56] <bwayne> !path > bwayne
[15:57] <Pricey> bwayne: /msg ubottu !path
[15:58] <proph> Hello guyz, i am a new ubuntu user. My laptop has wifi card 802.11b/g/n and i was experiencing problems connecting to the Internet. I found out that kernel bcmwl source 5.2 fixes it, but still have some problems cause every time i restart i have to run the same command again can someone help. Thanks
[15:59] <bwayne> thx Pricey
[15:59] <bencc> in the command line, can I wrap a call with a timeout?
[15:59] <sam113101> proph: what's that command?
[15:59] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: /usr/games is coming from PATH being set in /etc/profile.
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | proph
[15:59] <proph> sudo dpkg -i bcmwl*.deb
[16:00] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: I'm sorry. that's /etc/environment
[16:01] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: You may want to look here for more info. --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables
[16:04] <Akiva-Mobile> I am about to do an upgrade to ubuntu 64, and wondering if I should bother grabbing the alpha?
[16:04] <Akiva-Mobile> doesnt seem like to much has changed
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Mobile  better ask in #ubuntu+1, i guess
[16:10] <ironfoot495> Hello everyone I have a problem with permissions on my machine when attempting to use fopen and the use of document root.
[16:11] <ironfoot495> I can submit a copy of the project that I'mn working on if that will help you.
[16:11] <padhu> garmin mapsource/ base camp alternative on ubuntu 12.04 is needed
[16:12] <Semen_Dickman> Can any one hwlp me wi5h installation of ubuntu
[16:12] <ironfoot495> I've worked on this for a couple of day with no head way so I can really really use some help here!!!
[16:12] <Pricey> !install | Semen_Dickman
[16:12] <ironfoot495> permissions are really screwed up
[16:13] <Semen_Dickman> Ubuntu fracked my cpu please help me to recover my files nugzzz
[16:14] <bwayne> good job Pricey
[16:14] <Nach0z> lol.
[16:14] <wilee-nilee> That user should have been banned jut for the nick anyway
[16:14] <wilee-nilee> just
[16:15] <Kartagis> in google-chrome, youtube videos are twice as fast. why can this happen?
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, what does this command say. cat /etc/issue  cat /etc/*release*
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, pastebin the putput
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> output*
[16:19] <ironfoot495> wilee-nilee: I tried pasting the projedct but
[16:19] <ironfoot495> it wont let me add the php
[16:20] <ironfoot495> I'll try again!
[16:20] <TikkaMassala> What dist is the superior between Mageia 3 and openSUSE 12.3, the KDE version? What i'm looking for is stability and security (want to encrypt my system).
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, pastebin what that command outputs
[16:20] <unknown101> Where can i talk about security stuff?
[16:20] <kalekip1> unknown is it for Linux?
[16:20] <kalekip1> Then #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <Pici> TikkaMassala: Seeing that this channel is for Ubuntu only, try ##linux
[16:21] <Pici> unknown101: There is also ##security
[16:21] <TikkaMassala> Pici: thanks
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> TikkaMassala  ask in ##linux, please, this is ubuntu only
[16:21] <unknown101> i'll probably go to security
[16:23] <ironfoot495> ok wilee-nilee here is the paste => http://paste.ubuntu.com/6120067/
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, what does this show cat /etc/issue
[16:25] <ironfoot495> it shows that fopen causes permiision denied!!!
[16:25] <kalekip1> ironfoot495: Tip: make this a constant: $DOCUMENT_ROOT = $_SERVER["//var/www/php_script/vieworders/"];
[16:25] <kalekip1> better practise
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, Is this even ubuntu, you paste shows a 3rd party project at best.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> your*
[16:25] <kalekip1> True
[16:27] <oaulakh> hello
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, fopen is not in the ubuntu repos
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> !info ironfoot495
[16:27] <ironfoot495> listen I did try using a copy of someone else but I sstill get the same result .I hope y\this doen't presnt a tremendous problem. If so I apoligise for for that!!!!!
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> !info fopen
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> !find fopen
[16:28] <kalekip1> ironfoot495: If you want help with PHP, send me a PM
[16:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[16:29] <ShapeShifter499> is there away to have the audio output switched to my bluetooth headset when I connect them?
[16:29] <ironfoot495> al right I really apreciate that kalekip1
[16:29] <b4dave_4> Hello chat room. Is anyone using the Ubuntu-one storage and the web client to listen to music?
[16:30] <ShapeShifter499> right now when I connect the audio does get switched but sound controls are non functional till I click my device in "sound settings"  Until I do so music blasts at full blast through the headset
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> b4dave_4, State the issues for help.
[16:31] <ironfoot495> kalekip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6120067/
[16:34] <kalekip1> ironfoot495: Talk to me in private?
[16:36] <b4dave_4> wilee-nilee: Everything about it is slow. I have problem with sync all my music and photos. I am paying for the service and am wondering if its worth it and if anyone is having the same problems.
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> b4dave_4, this channel is support not polling.
[16:37] <b4dave_4> wilee-nilee: okay thank you.
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> b4dave_4, If you tell the channel in detail the problems you may get help, is my pointy is all. ;)
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> point*
[16:38] <irreverant> I know i can download older lts versions of ubuntu; for example 8.04 but does ubuntu also host the dell mini 9 version?
[16:40] <ironfoot495> oh yes I'm here I was on another page sorry~ What you got???
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, 8.04 is end of life whats the goal here?
[16:43] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[16:43] <irreverant> wilee-nilee: yes i Know; I'm just looking for the original image / support on my dell mini 9
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, that would be XP.
[16:44] <GeorgeJ> I have a luks encrypted drive that shows up in nautilus. Is there any way I can set the mount options for the underlying fs?
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, There are supported OS's will run on that unit, if you want actual support.
[16:46] <Scott_S> irreverant: What he's saying is that it's recommended to run a newer, supported OS such as Ubuntu 12.04.2 or 13.04. Ubuntu did not host the version that shipped with that specific notebook.
[16:46] <irreverant> wilee-nilee: no that means mine originally came with Ubuntu Jaunty
[16:47] <mfilipe> I changed the mozilla-javaplugin.so alternative to /opt/jre1.7.0_40/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so but Firefox always use /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[16:47] <OerHeks> irreverant, the torrent of 8.04 is still working, not sure you can get your notebook running without updates
[16:47] <mfilipe> what is wrong?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, Ah I see that now, unfortunately it would not be supported here with jaunty, maybe dell has a link to that, not sure why you would want it honestly.
[16:49] <sulo__> HI guys good evening or afternoon :)
[16:50] <sulo__> !channels
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> sulo__  what are you looking for?
[16:50] <sulo__> nothing just saying good afternoon :D
[16:50] <irreverant> I would prefer a newer version but it doesn't seem to support all the functionality of the dell mini 9
[16:51] <mmazing> I've got a cluster of instances on AWS that keep getting spikes in NetworkOut, running 10.04 LTS. I don't get much information from netstat -ntap, etc, when it's happening, what else could I look at to determine what the heck is going on?
[16:52] <sulo__> I was thinking about asking why I cant install Wine 1.6 but finaly I figure it out why It is not working :)
[16:52] <wolff> hi guys, I have installed the latest firefox manually, extracted it to /opt/firefox , problem is that my adobe flash wont work now, I have copied the flash plugin to my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory but it wont work ?   any ideas?
[16:53] <hays_> is there a way to make the trackpad on my netbook "backward" like the macs do?
[16:53] <hays_> just trying to reduce cognitive dissonance
[16:53] <sulo__> wolff, you are saying It wont work but you are not saying that it isnt working,why? :)
[16:54] <sulo__> wolff, anyway I cant help ya I am Ubuntu newbie I am just trying to post here smart comments :)
[16:54] <wolff> hehe @ sulo__
[16:54] <mmazing> hays_: try http://www.maketecheasier.com/reverse-mouse-scrolling-direction-in-ubuntu/2011/09/16
[16:54] <hays_> I want to make two-finger scrolling on the trackpad reversed.
[16:55] <irreverant> looks like 11.04 will work
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, For the graphics which seem to be a problem. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Intel+GMA+950+
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, 11.04 is eol as well is all.
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> wolff, The latest releases of FF are in the ubuntu repos.
[16:57] <Scott_S> sudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-installer
[16:57] <zv3r> hello guys how are ya ?
[16:57] <mooncake> my mood is good as a blue moon
[16:58] <Scott_S> @wolff Please try the command I listed above.
[16:58] <sulo__> wolff, my only idea is to install the whole system again :D :D :D
[16:58] <zv3r> hahah nicee
[16:58] <zv3r> ahahh
[16:58] <irreverant> OMFG, I'm SOL on XP; so EOL on 11.04 is better than a FUBAR'd Win installation.
[16:58] <cariveri> Hey wise guys. can anyone guide me through a little on a partitioning issue?
[16:58] <hays_> mmazing, thanks.  other than gksu that worked... i think.. need to log out and back in.
[16:58] <Scott_S> cariveri, simply ask your question and someone will get to you.
[16:58] <Scott_S> !ask
[16:58] <mmazing> hays_: sure thing
[16:58] <cariveri> Scott_S: ok. here it comes.
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> !ot | zv3r mooncake
[16:59] <sulo__> Scott_S, is the biggest helper out there :), I am glad you are here
[16:59] <Scott_S> sulo__, I try, thank you. :)
[16:59] <zv3r> @Scott_S what is your problem
[17:00] <zv3r> ubable to watch clips in firefox ?
[17:00] <Scott_S> zv3r, I was helping another person, I am not in need of help. Thank you.
[17:00] <cariveri> How do copy/move the home partition to another larger one (called /home2 sofar) and reintegrate it?
[17:00] <zv3r> ohh okey
[17:01] <Scott_S> cariveri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[17:01] <mmazing> hays_: did it work?
[17:01] <wolff> Scott thanks , but that command installs firefox 23 , not 24 , i have done an apt-get update, still only version 23
[17:01] <cariveri> Scott_S: cool. thanks.
[17:01] <hays_> mmazing, yep!  that's awesome and an easy fix
[17:01] <wolff> i have firefox version 24 in my /opt
[17:01] <mmazing> hays_: huzzah!
[17:01] <sulo__> my nick will be boneslash so sulo__ = boneslash, ok? :D
[17:01] <hays_> mmazing, this little $200 laptop is turning out to be kinda cool
[17:01] <mmazing> i might try that out myself
[17:02] <irreverant> what 200 laptop?
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> wolff, wait about 24 hrs or so and it will be in the repos.
[17:02] <hays_> irreverant, Asus 1505E i think its called
[17:02] <hays_> irreverant, comes with Ubuntu preloaded and I upped it to 13 with no problems
[17:02] <Scott_S> wolff, if you have already downloaded libflashplayer.so, move it to /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins
[17:02] <wolff> thanks Scott_S , will try that
[17:03] <boneslash> hope it helps
[17:03] <hays_> irreverant, it has a Celeron and 2 GB RAM.. little tiny thing.  10.1" monitor
[17:03] <Strit> I run Ubuntu 13.04 with the build-in LibreOffice. When I edit documents in Libre Writer with lots of photos the Writer becomes very slow. Any idea why and how to fix it?
[17:03] <GeorgeJ> I've got a problem, when nautilus mounts the underlying fs of a LUKS volume, it's mounted as root instead of being mounted as the active user. Is this a known bug?
[17:04] <hays_> my only complaint is that the keyboard is small and it is a bit hard to get used to.
[17:04] <Scott_S> Strit, this is due to either LibreOffice not support GPU-accelerated rendering of images, or your system is unable to keep up with the number of images in the document.
[17:05] <hays_> If only there was three-finger swiping away the windows.  lol.  asking for too much i think
[17:05] <anshin> help
[17:05] <Scott_S> !ask > anshin
[17:06] <Strit> Scott_S, hm. I read somewhere that increasing the memory allowed in Libre would make it quicker, but it didn't. My system is an i7 3,4 Ghz with 16 GB ram and gtx 760 graphics. Surely my system should be able to keep up. :P
[17:06] <anshin> wrong command
[17:06] <anshin> sent "help" to all channels
[17:06] <boneslash> hays, you must be glad man I have also Ubuntu 13 and my netbook has only 1 GB RAM :)
[17:06] <wolff> Scott_S, no success
[17:07] <anshin> ubottu: I wasn't asking a question. I just assumed that typing "/amsg help" would tell me what "amsg" does.
[17:07] <anshin> awe
[17:07] <Scott_S> wolff, Do you have that same folder in the location that you installed Firefox 24? It's possible it has a custom directly since it wasn't installed with aptitude.
[17:07] <cariveri> Scott_S: the steps dont make sens to me. why not 1. partition /home2 , 2. rsynch /home -> /home2, 3. edit fstab to /home2, 4. edit /home2 partion mark to /home  ?
[17:08] <hays_> hmm is there a way to tie a three finger gesture to the workspace switcher?
[17:08] <Scott_S> cariveri, I'm sorry, but I don't have the answer to that question. I am only providing you with the steps to do it, which is the recommended method by Canonical.
[17:10] <ekool> Question: I'm working with kickstart and preseed and I'm trying to find a way to force the installer to ask for manual network configuration. Is this possible (ie, the machine boots via DHCP but I want to over-ride this with different static IP's during install)
[17:11] <wolff> Scott_S, my firefox 24 is in /opt/firefox      it is not under /usr
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> ekool  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server or ##networking
[17:14] <Apachez> http://i.imgur.com/hChvVyu.png
[17:17] <caulagi> anybody here running FreeBSD and Ubuntu on the same machine?
[17:17] <chaotic_good> when expanding a lvm, do I expand the pv b4 extending the fs?
[17:17] <chaotic_good> I do right?
[17:17] <chaotic_good> padd pv, add  pv to vf, then expand lv, then resize2fs
[17:18] <irreverant> did we get a split on the network?
[17:19] <Pici> chaotic_good: You pretty much have to, where would the FS expand to otherwise?
[17:19] <abradley> after mysql-server install, I'm attemping to connect to with HeidiSQL and get: http://i.imgur.com/AlZbSfo.png Beyond "sudo apt-get install mysql-server" and setting the root password what must be done to get mysql-server up ?
[17:19] <chaotic_good> can ext4 support shrinking a lv?
[17:21] <GeorgeJ> I've got a problem, when nautilus mounts the underlying fs of a LUKS volume, it's mounted as root instead of being mounted as the active user. Is this a known bug?
[17:22] <ekool> abradley: The default config likely doesn't allow connections to mysql from the network, just localhost.
[17:22] <abradley> oh. I'll look into that. thanks a lot ekool
[17:22] <ekool> abradley: You'll likely need to modify my.cnf and tell it to bind to the network interface, not just loopback... then you can also create a user that authenticates from the network and has the permissions you need.
[17:23] <ekool> abradley: however, most mysql navigators are smart in that you can tell them to SSH into localhost, then connect "locally" through that tunnel so you can avoid all that. So, check the network type area there and see if SSH is an option.
[17:25] <last1> how can I upgrade my version of 'ld' ?
[17:25] <abradley> ekool, smart, thanks a lot for the great info
[17:28] <JustMozzy> hi guys.. how are you doing? I have jut bought a Genuis EasyPen 340 tablet. the sytem recognizes it but the buttons don't work. actually only control over the mouse cursor is functioning. can anyone help out to get it running?
[17:30] <jibreel> hi ubuntuers
[17:31] <kalekip1> Hi, jibreel.
[17:32] <jibreel> does anyone have this weird bug, that, when you go fullscreen on an application. and you hit <alt-tab> and can't see the app switcher ?
[17:32] <jibreel> it works but it's hidden from view
[17:33] <Strit> Mine shows perfectlu jibreel
[17:33] <jibreel> what version are you on ?
[17:33] <jibreel> i'am on 13.04
[17:33] <Strit> 13.04 x64.
[17:33] <jibreel> hmm
[17:33] <jibreel> anything i can do about it ?
[17:35] <Strit> No idea. :)
[17:36] <jibreel> it annoying because i would like to have some application in fullscreen
[17:36] <jibreel> like sublime text
[17:36] <jibreel> and so
[17:36] <jibreel> hmm
[17:36] <FloodBot1> jibreel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <JustMozzy> Hi guys. Can anyone help me setup my graphic pen tablet?
[17:39] <abradley> I'm still getting a "is not allowed to connect" error: http://i.imgur.com/3Y9wZ46.png
[17:42] <littlegirl> abradley: Did you try retyping your username and password?
[17:43] <ekool> abradley: make sure you can connect from command line using that same username and password with mysql -u USERNAME -p
[17:43] <ekool> then it will prompt for password
[17:43] <invitado> Hello, Do anyone know how to fix a bug in Ubuntu 13 about hotplugging?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> invitado:  describe your issue /error
[17:45] <hays_> what is a better lightweight browser, firefox or chromium?
[17:45] <SoundsFromSound> What do you mean "better"?
[17:45] <invitado> When I plug a divice such as a pendrive it is not detected
[17:45] <SoundsFromSound> solely caring about performance and nothing else?
[17:46] <hays_> SoundsFromSound, quicker response, less churning on memory swapping...
[17:46] <GeekDude> Hi tkeranen
[17:46] <BluesKaj> invitado:  where are you looking ?
[17:46] <GeekDude> Hi surya
[17:46] <SoundsFromSound> For that alone, I would said not Firefox.
[17:46] <hays_> SoundsFromSound, Its made a difference for example to install an adblocker
[17:46] <SoundsFromSound> say*
[17:46] <GeekDude> Hi LongCatTH
[17:46] <GeekDude> If I open an SSH client into my ubuntu desktop (12.04LTS), and start a python script that hangs indefinitely unless the terminal is closed, will closing the SSH connection kill the script?
[17:47] <GeekDude> Hi Dave
[17:47] <bazhang> GeekDude, please stop that
[17:47] <invitado> it is only launched when I write in the Terminal lsusb -v
[17:47] <GeekDude> bazhang: okay. Do you know anything about ssh, or enough to answer my question?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> invitado:  check your file manager 'places'
[17:47] <SoundsFromSound> Firefox in my experience uses more memory however there are other pros as to why I choose it. But for only perfomance, I'd say Chrome-family stuff is 'faster'.
[17:48] <SoundsFromSound> But I assure you many people will argue both sides :) Specs, etc.
[17:49] <hays_> SoundsFromSound, ill try both if there is no clear winner
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> You should notice a difference for sure though, as far as memory usage and whatnot. Yup.
[17:49] <invitado> It is not there
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> Hey, hays, how do you reply like you are, to a certain user?
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> I haven't used IRC in years, I forget :(
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> I'm in ChatZilla
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[17:50] <SoundsFromSound> Oh, I need a colon after the name?
[17:50] <SoundsFromSound> I knew the auto complete part :)
[17:50] <GeekDude> no, and it can be anywhere in th message, SoundsFromSound
[17:50] <SoundsFromSound> oh
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> GeekDude testing?
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> see?
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> hmm
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> GeekDude: Test?
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> :)
[17:51] <FloodBot1> SoundsFromSound: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <Guest48599> GeekDude: yo
[17:52] <BluesKaj> !pm | invitado
[17:52] <Pici> GeekDude: yes, when you disconnect a HUP signal will be sent and will close your running application. Run your command under screen, or using nohup to prevent this.
[17:52] <elegant_ist> fukuılhş
[17:53] <invitado> Sorry
[17:53] <GeekDude> Pici: do either of those come packaged with ubuntu?
[17:53] <invitado> when I boot with the device plugged in, it works just fine
[17:53] <surya> ??
[17:53] <invitado> the problem is hotplugging
[17:53] <Pici> GeekDude: nohup does, and I'm pretty sure that screen does.
[17:54] <GeekDude> Pici: would screen let me use an alread-existing terminal?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> invitado:  no need to be sorry , it's better to discuss problems in the chat , so others can help too
[17:54] <invitado> understood
[17:54] <Pici> GeekDude: Do you expect to need to reconnect to the terminal later to look at output? then screen is for you. Otherwise nohup is probably better.
[17:55] <chaotic_good> ok in vmware, I added a drive to my ubuntu vm, do I have to reboot?
[17:55] <GeekDude> Pici: I leave an IRC bot & webserver on all day, and want to be able to access them remotely to check output and restart them if needed
[17:55] <chaotic_good> to see the drive or can I do something to rescan live?
[17:55] <chaotic_good> (amazon doesit!)
[17:56] <Pici> GeekDude: Then screen fits your usecase. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen for more info.
[17:56] <GeekDude> Pici: ubuntu does not come packaged with screen, but I'll look into it. Thanks
[17:56] <SoundsFromSound> chaotic_good: Are you using Workstation?
[17:56] <supertantan> I'm having problems with flashpalyer and Lightspark, I can not upload them to the sites that use them in any way, how can I solve this?
[17:56] <supertantan> Opss...player
[17:58] <cariveri> what do you call the low graphics type interface in some installations processes?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, you would one or the other running on your computer, not both
[17:59] <supertantan> Not both...
[17:59] <supertantan> Speaking exactly the words I want the flashplayer it was to the hells, since I could access websites with Lightspark
[18:00] <chaotic_good> vsphere 4
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> lol if I could only understand yours. ;)
[18:01] <supertantan> The message: "Could not load shockwave" appears on both when installed separately.
[18:02] <supertantan> I feel I miss the old Ubuntu 8.4 ...
[18:03] <aurorasun> hi
[18:03] <BluesKaj> invitado:  http://asleepfromday.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/udev-and-allow-hotplug-on-ubuntu-and-debian/
[18:03] <aurorasun> Anyone from India here/
[18:03] <aurorasun> or wrong channel
[18:03] <aurorasun> ?
[18:03] <aurorasun> maybe Indian?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> !in
[18:03] <BluesKaj> aurorasun:  ^
[18:04] <aurorasun> hm
[18:04] <supertantan> jai ho.
[18:04] <supertantan> Lol
[18:04] <aurorasun> supertantan:  your Indian?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> aurorasun, This is support, not find your ethnic group.
[18:05] <supertantan> No, I'm smiling not to cry my shockwave that is so useful when a leaky bucket.
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> supertantan  did you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:06] <supertantan> Need to do my work shockwave.
[18:06] <supertantan> Could you help me?
[18:06] <bazhang> !shockwave | supertantan
[18:06] <Pici> supertantan: shockwave has never been supported on Linux.
[18:08] <supertantan> Understand and how do I access flash sites? Use Lightspark? I do not know to install, need help.
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, You fully against using adobe?
[18:08] <TheLordOfTime> supertantan: shockwave has always ever been for Windows, and is different than Flash.  Shockwave only works on Windows, maybe basic operations only under Wine, but you can't get Shockwave on Linux.
[18:08] <TheLordOfTime> supertantan: as for Flash, there *is* an adobe flash plugin you can install but it's non-free, and AIUI Adobe might not support it for very much longer
[18:09] <TheLordOfTime> !flash | supertantan
[18:09] <supertantan> Hey, bad boy ... or cows fly I will install a cursed windows in my wine.
[18:09] <Mega1> an error encountered while prosessing openssh server and client
[18:10] <Mega1> how can i fix this
[18:10] <supertantan> Adobe flash plugin-nonfree? I will try.
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, the ubuntu-restricted-extras will load flash and other codecs and ms fonts
[18:13] <supertantan> Well, know that I am ... Lubuntu user have a computer of the eighteenth century, lol. I have already installed the restricted extras Lubuntu.
[18:13] <k1l> Mega1: can you nopaste the whole output and describe what you are doing/trying?
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, did you have the partners repos and backports open?
[18:15] <hays_> mmazing, so the downside is that it flips left/right also
[18:16] <hays_> mmazing, or maybe it doesn't... at any rate it seems weird
[18:16] <supertantan> Yes, when it started to go wrong things, and it was still morning I opened all repositories.
[18:17] <invitado> I am not allow to write in this folder: /etc/udev/rules.d
[18:17] <supertantan> I had installed a chrome old, and it worked perfectly. But then came an insistent nasty message saying that my browser was old and needed ataulização and ready ... stopped.
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> invitado  you need sudo for anything outside /homr
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> invitado  I mean /home
[18:18] <supertantan> Oops, update ...
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, You then ran a update before installing? Are you sure what ever your accessing is a flash problem, rather than linux in general?
[18:18] <mast3r210> programm swf to avi?
[18:19] <mmazing> hays_: did you try switching the 6 and 7 as well?
[18:20] <supertantan> I have a ubuntu one Xubuntu and Lubuntu and I'm almost giving up because when the squeegee PuppyLinux not own webcam, but at least I watch tv ...
[18:20] <supertantan> Is geral..
[18:21] <supertantan> Put aside this damn flash player, be able to install as Lightspark?
[18:22] <tasslehoff> Any way to use a custom command (shell script) to open a file?
[18:22] <hays_> mmazing, i dont know what the numbers mean
[18:22] <BluesKaj> mast3r210:  ffmpeg or avconv
[18:22] <bazhang> !info lightspark | supertantan
[18:23] <Dragin1> can someone please kill Dragin? I am ghosting
[18:23] <bazhang> Dragin1, #freenode for help with that
[18:23] <Dragin1> thanks
[18:23] <mmazing> hays_: read that article again, it says you can switch the 6 and the 7 in the configuration file that you created to reverse the horizontal direction as well
[18:24] <mmazing> gotta go good luck
[18:24] <BluesKaj> Dragin1:
[18:24] <BluesKaj> if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit
[18:24] <BluesKaj> by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST «username» «password»
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> Dragin1, run here /msg nickserv help release
[18:25] <supertantan> Well, I'm going to try installing Lightspark ... thank you all.
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> it helps to have several nicks on your account
[18:25] <GeekDude> Pici: I would need to start the webserver in a screen instance, right? I can't just connect to an already-open terminal?
[18:26] <Pici> GeekDude: What webserver/
[18:26] <GeekDude> Pici: It's a python script using the CherryPy framework
[18:27] <Pici> GeekDude: You'd either need to figure out how to set it up as a daemon, or start it in a new instance.
[18:27] <hays_> mmazing, ahh i missed that and the man page isn't particularly clear
[18:27] <supertantan> I honestly do not know how to use this beautiful Xchat staff. My terminal is open. If this will help ...
[18:28] <GeekDude> Pici: Okay. I'll just always start it from SSH/Screen. I can SSH into a computer from itself, right?
[18:28] <arthur_> Olá!!!
[18:28] <Pici> GeekDude: er, sure.
[18:29] <supertantan> How about spending a few commands like remove the dependencies in order to replace the flash Lightspark?
[18:29] <Pici> GeekDude: or just start screen and then disconnect from it (ctrl-a d)
[18:29] <supertantan> Oi, eu sou o dollinho
[18:29] <supertantan> hehehehe
[18:30] <bazhang> !ot | supertantan
[18:30] <GeekDude> Pici: ah, open a terminal and start a screen instance, then disconnect
[18:31] <supertantan> Yes,But what about helping me with Lightspark, I do not understand .. you nicks green, red ... but no one gives me a command, action or something you can understand.
[18:32] <hays_> is clang/llvm worth moving to yet?
[18:32] <hays_> im kind of fascinated
[18:32] <Pici> supertantan: I don't think that most of us have no idea what lightspark is.
[18:32] <Pici> er, have any idea
[18:32] <hays_> looks like a cleanup of gcc's already pretty mature concept
[18:32] <bazhang> Pici, an swf player in the repos
[18:33] <Pici> bazhang: does it have a plugin and can it act as a viable alternative to flash?
[18:33] <bazhang> supertantan, install it from the package manager
[18:33] <supertantan> Oh, you know ... be at peace ...
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !info lightspark
[18:35] <mazmax> hi
[18:36] <GeekDude> Pici: how do I close a screen instance? I've opened 4 of them, and detached them
[18:36] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: reattach, and close the terminal
[18:36] <invitado> Recently, I presented an issue to the community. It is about hotplugging usb devices. BluesKaj tried to help me but I could not implement the solution in the link he sent to me (It seems it is not applicable to UBUNTU 13, the files are named differently and its content is also different). Any other ideas?
[18:36] <GeekDude> gordonjcp: I can't close the terminal over SSH
[18:37] <Jordan_U> hays_: Are you developing software or just using it? Most of the benefits of llvm/clang are for developers rather than end users (building the same software in Clang vs GCC won't gain you much). Also, you're probably already using some software which was built with Clang or uses LLVM.
[18:37] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: <ctrl-d>
[18:38] <GeekDude> gordonjcp: thank you
[18:43] <kalekip1> Does anybody knows how I can auto select a folder when I print screen?
[18:43] <kalekip1> Let's say, I press on Prt Sc. A window "Save Screenshot" appears. There is an option "Save in folder: " ...
[18:43] <kalekip1> How can I automatically select one?
[18:45] <kostkon> kalekip1, it always remembers the previously selected folder
[18:51] <irreverant> whats up with all the mass quits?
[18:51] <hays_> not sure
[18:53] <GeekDude> gordonjcp: Using "^d" doesn't always work, especially if a python script is running. To kill the instance in the screen, "^a : quit" works while you're inside, and to kill the whole screen externally, "$ screen -S <name> -X quit" works too
[18:54] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: yes
[18:54] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: <ctrl-d> works from a shell prompt though, which is a good place to start
[18:55] <GeekDude> I suppose. My python script doesn't work properly with keyboard interrupt, so I can't return to shell, and I have to end it/kill it
[18:56] <steffen> .
[18:58] <kalekip1> kostkon: Sorry for late reply, but it doesn't.
[18:58] <kostkon> kalekip1, hmm ok
[18:58] <jparker_> I just want you to know, we're counting on you
[18:58] <jparker_> :q
[18:59] <steffen> Hey everybody!
[18:59] <kalekip1> Welcome, steffen.
[19:00] <steffen_yeller> kalekip1 Seen the new System76 machine
[19:00] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys stupid question how can i quickly and accurately check my download speeds for my internet? I used speedtest.net it says im getting a 25mbps internet conncetion but when i download files of HTTP servers i only get a max of 2-3 mbps? Is that because of the location of the HTTP Server?
[19:00] <SoundsFromSound> That new System76 looks sweet :)
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> sorry way off topic :P
[19:01] <SoundsFromSound> indeed it is
[19:01] <SoundsFromSound> but welcome :)
[19:01] <kalekip1> #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> thanks SoundsFromSound :) I Love this channel.
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> kalekip1,
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> do you know what i make kale chips in the oven er day
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> on the regular :o
[19:01] <steffen_yeller> To bad they only are in US.. would love to buy one if I could from a EU country :)
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> mmmmm kale.
[19:01] <kalekip1> !ot
[19:04] <Jonzx3> exit
[19:05] <Axlin> Psil0Cybin: It could be because of a lot of factors, the specific server being one of them. Also remember that notation matters; speedtest.net probably gives you Mb/s, and when downloading you're usually getting MB/s (25Mb/s = 3.125 MB/s)
[19:05] <Jonzx3> exit
[19:06] <AndroUser> Hi guys
[19:06] <AndroUser> !nomodeset
[19:07] <funky> hey folks
[19:07] <funky> I want to change owner to all dirs in the dir recursively
[19:07] <gordonjcp> funky: okay
[19:07] <gordonjcp> funky: be sure you're doing it to the right directory then
[19:07] <funky> I used chown -R magentohappy:stfp *.* and got chown: invalid group: `magentohappy:stfp'
[19:08] <funky> i do it in /www
[19:08] <bshacklett> Did you typo the group name by any chance?
[19:08] <gordonjcp> yup
[19:08] <funky> bshacklett:  could be
[19:08] <gordonjcp> that group name looks like a typo
[19:09] <funky> yep
[19:09] <funky> u guys are geniuses :)
[19:09] <gordonjcp> naw
[19:09] <gordonjcp> you're just particularly dim :-p
[19:10] <invitado> Hello again, there was a electric energy drop in my home and my computer turned off. I was asking about an issue hotplugging usb devices. Blueskaj provided me a link wuth a solution but it was not useful for Ubuntu 13. Any other ideas?
[19:10] <gordonjcp> I bet no-one else here has *ever* done that ;-)
[19:10] <funky> like ever :D
[19:10] <gordonjcp> funky: I know I haven't, ever <ahem>
[19:10] <UrielVigilant> Good night, why the ubunto 12.10 usb pen drive persistent save and remember the change on picture of desktop but ubuntu 13.10 don after terminate and start again , but it remember all changes but that one dont .
[19:10] <gordonjcp> funky: I've never done chown -R in the wrong directory either
[19:12] <Pici> funky: do you want to change the ownership on all files as well, or just directories?
[19:12] <Pici> nevermind
[19:13] <jhutchins> invitado: Assume we don't know what BluesKaj may have told you, what is your actual question?  What do you need to do?
[19:13] <funky> pici yes both
[19:13] <funky> now it works however user is able to escape from /www
[19:14] <Pici> funky: you probably don't want to use *.* though, not every file in Linux has a dot in it.
[19:14] <funky> pici so what do I use?
[19:14] <Pici> funky: just *
[19:14] <funky> ok
[19:15] <Pici> funky: Or specify the absolute path to prevent accidentally changing the wrong permissions
[19:15] <funky> before I used it it was locked into www, it still owned by root the www dir
[19:15] <funky> how is user able to escape?
[19:15] <Pici> funky: I don't know what you mean by escape.
[19:16] <funky> before I set sftp in such way it can only access directories it owns
[19:16] <funky> and cant go out to system dir :)
[19:16] <funky> sftp user owns directories under /www
[19:17] <kerloi> Hi all. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my new laptop. First I had some trouble with a black screen, the nomodeset option fixed it and now the live usb boot correctly. Now my problem is that if I hit the try kubuntu button, the graphic screen disapear, I see some lines in the shell and then it turn to a black screen once again ...
[19:18] <kerloi> I don't dare to install kubuntu before having seen it running fully on my laptop I'm too afraid of having a black screen as a result ...
[19:19] <funky> kerloi why
[19:19] <kerloi> Can I install kubuntu even with that problem on the live usb ? Should it be ok after or is it too risky ?
[19:19] <Guest69905> ubottu is a bot!!!
[19:19] <funky> just play with it
[19:19] <funky> kerloi which problem?
[19:19] <funky> i suggest to  buy extra hdd
[19:19] <funky> and put linux on it :D
[19:19] <Guest69905> I DONT CARE YOU ARE A BOT ubottu !
[19:20] <kerloi> funky: when I hit the try kubuntu button it goes to a black screen once again ...
[19:20] <funky> kerloi probably  video driver
[19:20] <funky> ask some sexy girl in the mall to help u
[19:20] <funky> :P
[19:20] <funky> tell her u need it fixed for something :D
[19:20] <BluesKaj> jhutchins:  "<invitado> When I plug a device such as a pendrive it is not detected"
[19:20] <funky> who here asked blonde girl to fix their pc? :)
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> !ot | funky
[19:21] <kerloi> funky: right I suppose it's a driver problem but could it be fixed after the install ?
[19:22] <ppamula_> hi
[19:22] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[19:22] <ppamula_> hi
[19:23] <fancyfetus> I updated to ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04
[19:23] <fancyfetus> Now i boot to a black screen with a cursor.
[19:23] <ppamula_> i have a question regarding ubuntu 12.04.1
[19:23] <ppamula_> df -h shows nothing just nfs mount
[19:23] <fancyfetus> I tried nomodset, when i do that, it just freezes at the splash screen with the ubuntu logo
[19:24] <samfromat> hello everyone! Is it possible to install same updates on multiple systems? i have linux mint install on 2 partitions on same machine. Is there a way to update both the system by downloading the updates just once?
[19:24] <ppamula_> touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> !mint | samfromat
[19:25] <samfromat> but i guess its not a distro specific question.
[19:26] <kerloi> If I have an nvidia graphic card, does installing the latest nvidia driver should fix the black screen problem ?
[19:26] <Strit> samfromat, well, it might not be the same exact commands needed, and therefore what we say might screw up your system.
[19:26] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, im getting the black screen again. Except thia time i can access the grub.
[19:27] <Pici> samfromat: something like apt-cacher-ng might be able to help you, it would sit in between your linux computers and the apt repositories
[19:27] <invitado> thanks BluesKaj, this is the problem, another characteristic of the problem is that the device is detected and workable when I boot with it plugged in.
[19:28] <samfromat> Strit: Pici: so may be someone can tell me what to search for.
[19:28] <invitado> the device can be launched using this code: lsusb -v
[19:29] <Strit> samfromat, as the bot says, try in #linuxmint-help
[19:29] <invitado> but it does not pop up automatically.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> invitado:  do you have the device notifiers enabled , probly system settings , not sure on unity where that is exactly (since I'm on kde)
[19:29] <citrusfizz> i have a nic with a second virtual interface,  both IPs are in the same subnet,  the gateway seems to be configured only to use eth1 and not eth1:0  as i cannot ping the second ip from outside the network.  whats my plan of attack here?
[19:30] <invitado> let me see
[19:30] <fhedstrom> Hello, I'm having trouble with getting my intel card to detect correct in 13.10. All i get is low graphics warning in bootup and gallium llvm in X. all works fine in 13.04
[19:31] <invitado> they are on
[19:32] <invitado> I mean enable
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | fhedstrom
[19:33] <fhedstrom> wilee-nilee, tnx!
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[19:38] <vikkamath> Is there any way to monitor manual application launches and also find the time of the launch?
[19:40] <quantumpants> hi guys
[19:42] <fancyfetus> I get the fatal error "no screens found" when i boot.
[19:45] <Malenee> what is the best ubuntu site for RSS news   ?
[19:45] <quantumpants> can anybody guide me towards getting myself set up on Cchat or empathy?
[19:46] <Pici> Malenee: planet.ubuntu.com is popular
[19:46] <quantumpants> xchat even
[19:49] <Rory> What do you want to know, quantumpants ? There's this community wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[19:51] <quantumpants> rory, thanks. ive just killed windows and set up 12.04. im really now to this and not sure where to stat at getting a loggin. im also wanting to volenteer
[19:51] <vikkamath> Is there any way to monitor manual application launches and also find the time of the launch?
[19:52] <dv-> vikkamath: with auditd
[19:52] <quantumpants> rory, im looking to set up an irc accout
[19:53] <Ben64> quantumpants: open up the ubuntu software center and search for an irc client
[19:54] <quantumpants> Ben64, I have Xchat and Empathy ready to go.
[19:57] <Rory> quantumpants: You want to register an account on Freenode? /msg nickserv help
[19:58] <guets987654322> hi peoples
[19:59] <citrusfizz> in ubuntu i have set an ip on eth1:0  but i cannot ping it from another computer   it is in the same subnet as the ip configured on eth1
[19:59] <citrusfizz> am i missing something?
[20:00] <jibreel> guets987654322: howdi
[20:00] <quantumpants> Rory, Its all confusing to me :) ive always used windows and utting used to this new OS and the Linux way. im not even sure how to use that info you just sent. sorry
[20:02] <Ari-Yang> quantumpants, that's like one of the standard IRC commands :| it has nothing to do with Windows or Linux...
[20:02] <Ari-Yang> just type /msg nickserv help and hit enter
[20:02] <Ari-Yang> (in your IRC client)
[20:04] <quantumpants> Ari-Yang, Forgive me, I still studying up on linux etc.. ill get there in the end lol.  i suppose i just type that in
[20:12] <Rory> quantumpants: IRC is the same on Linux as it is on Windows, what IRC client did you use on Windows?
[20:12] <Rory> quantumpants: It would help if you could explain exactly what you want to achieve... you're currently using IRC. So it's possible you don't need to do anything at all
[20:15] <quantumpants> Rory, your right, I wanted to register my Nick so i could look through the othe channels. i didnt use irc on windows, im sorry. i am a a novis at this.
[20:17] <Rory> quantumpants: Have you managed to register now? This isn't really the right channel to discuss general IRC and Freenode support, try asking in #freenode
[20:18] <quantumpants> thanks rory. thanks guys.
[20:18] <hasiok> Hello
[20:26] <qlixed> Hi guys... i have some strange issue...
[20:26] <qlixed> with unity..
[20:26] <maveas> Somebody with experience with preseeding? I've tried to include my preseed file on the ISO in /preseed and added the md5sum to md5sum.txt but the installer doesn't use it (yeah, edited the boot option to the preseed file path)
[20:27] <qlixed> When my session start i can logon without problems, but the unity bars never appears...
[20:27] <maveas> Btw, the iso is ubuntu server 13.04 x64
[20:27] <qlixed> someone have taht issue ever?
[20:30] <maveas> En med erfaring i preseed?
[20:31] <honestly> somebody please tell me what's wrong with this ip route call
[20:31] <honestly> I must be having a brain outage
[20:31] <honestly> root@bb10:~# ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[20:31] <honestly> RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[20:31] <honestly> eth0 exists
[20:31] <honestly> and it's up
[20:31] <honestly> "ip route" gives me the routes
[20:31] <Pici> !enter
[20:31] <honestly> sorry.
[20:33] <qlixed> Have a "misterious" issue with unity, session start, but no bars at all. Someone can gimme a hand with it?
[20:34] <bucketm0use> http://superuser.com/questions/644444/one-of-two-raid-1s-is-not-recognized-in-ubuntu-13-04
[20:34] <mihok> Is there a way to disable/delete/remove services from an ubuntu drive from editing files/configs alone?
[20:35] <mihok> I have an amazon ebs drive that I need to fix, I have an openvpn service running that messes up the internet connection on the server
[20:35] <mihok> so I've got it mounted as the secondary drive on a temporary instance
[20:35] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - General "what's a good practice" question for linux users: I was told it's bad to have a CLI app log to a file without the user knowing - But I suppress a full stacktrace unless `--debug` is passed, so sometimes random errors (Happens one time, not the next) are missed and I can't be given a bug report. What would be an ideal solution for this? Have a setting (Defaulted to true) to log 50 lines or so to a file that the user can change themselves?
[20:35] <mihok> but not sure how to remove the service
[20:36] <bucketm0use> One of two of my RAID 1's is not recognized in Ubuntu 13.04. Has anyone experienced this before?
[20:37] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: is this something you're writing?
[20:37] <designbybeck_> Helping someone with a new install. They didn't want windows 8 so we took it off, now he gets: The ‘grub-efi-amd64-signed’ package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
[20:37] <designbybeck_> when trying to install
[20:37] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: Internal application, yes.
[20:37] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: just log anyway, then
[20:37] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: at least if you're running a debug build or with debugging enabled
[20:38] <Fyodorovna> glixed, fresh install, has it worked, have you checked additional drivers?
[20:39] <Rory> mihok: what is the output of "sudo service openvpn status"
[20:39] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: But I like to follow best practices :-) Just wanted to get a general opinion. What would you expect that to be? But true, it's not a huge deal in my exact scenario.
[20:39] <mihok> Rory, its unrecognized service because ive mounted the hard drive with the service issues to /mnt
[20:40] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: I don't want to pry into your business practices, but I'd say that anyone using an internal app has rather less expectation of privacy
[20:40] <Rory> mihok: Oh if it's an Amazon-specific thing I don't know. Sorry.
[20:41] <Rory> !RAID | bucketm0use have you read the information here on RAID?
[20:41] <mihok> It's not amazon specific, I just need a way that I can remove a service without using commands or a gui, like can I delete some file or something?
[20:41] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: furthermore if they are using a development version of something it's not unreasonable to expect them to put up with more logging and user surveillance
[20:41] <Rory> mihok: "Remove" a service isn't a thing, could you re-phrase it? You want to uninstall openvpn? Or stop a service that's running?
[20:41] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: Fair enough, thanks!
[20:41] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: you can tell the users that there's extensive logging going on
[20:41] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: keeps you right I suppose
[20:42] <maveas> ? Regarding auto install of server: I'm trying to include a preseed.cfg on my ISO but the installer doesn't load the preseed file (the documentation says that including the preseed.cfg on the root of the ISO will auto load it. Any ideas?
[20:42] <mihok> Rory, basically I guess uninstall openvpn on a harddrive thats been mounted, so not through apt-get
[20:44] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: if users *are* unhappy about the logging then you can give them some means to start either a debug-enabled or non-debug version
[20:44] <qlixed> quit
[20:44] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: and make it clear that if they run a non-debug version, they're a) not helping you get the app working properly and b) when they have problems they might not get answers
[20:45] <mrrcp> kill the pid and remove the openvpn
[20:45] <mrrcp> folder
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> mihok:  if its using upstart and its a upstart managed service. you just rename the servicename.conf file to be like servicvename.dontrun in /etc/init/
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> mihok:  the 'upstart cookbook' gives details
[20:45] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: I was going to have a configuration file that has something like `log_to_file=true/false`, defaulting to true - And will pass along an installation method noting that this can be changed at the users' whim. I'll keep the logging down to <200 lines or something, just so it's available if something craps out, they can send it to me.
[20:46] <kameha> hello
[20:46] <mrrcp> hi
[20:46] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: In this case in particular, they'd almost all be willing to help get things working properly - so I probably won't see much of a complaint. I guess if this were a public application, I could do the same thing - just default the logging to file to false. If they run into issues they could enable it and then next time the issue occurs pass along the information.
[20:46] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: yup
[20:47] <kameha> I will have to come here often, now as I'm a new ubuntu user
[20:47] <AcidRain2012> why not idle here forever?
[20:47] <kameha> good idea :)
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> ;0
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> ;)*
[20:48] <kameha> nice to meet you
[20:48] <Quantumpants> hi guys ang girls
[20:48] <mrrcp> howdy
[20:49] <Quantumpants> can anybody advise me?
[20:49] <kyle___> Quantumpants: Don't ask to ask, ask your question.
[20:50] <maveas> ? Experience with kickstart vs. preseed?
[20:50] <ekool> maveas: Use the right tool for the job depending on what job your trying to accomplish.
[20:50] <Quantumpants> I want to help the community but i have no programming skills. what can i do?
[20:50] <mrrcp> Quantumpants: ?
[20:50] <SoundsFromSound> You can do plenty Quantumpants :)
[20:51] <Quantumpants> SoundsFromSound ?
[20:51] <mrrcp> Quantumpants: LEARN and help.
[20:51] <kalekip1> !expert | Quantumpants
[20:52] <SoundsFromSound> You can do a lot to help Ubuntu, you don't need to be a programmer. You could offer any type of support, share the distro, encourage free software,  spread the word, etc.
[20:52] <maveas> ekool: Well, I've been trying to create a custom ISO with my own preseed.cfg file to install local servers in my VirtualBox environment but the ISO doesn't load the preseed.cfg despite all my efforts.
[20:52] <ekool> maveas: okay and what is the problem
[20:52] <maveas> ekool: That the installer doesn't use my preseed file?
[20:53] <ekool> maveas: you can pass the preseed file multiple ways... i prefer to extract the iso, mount it via loop, then modify it then make the iso again...
[20:53] <ekool> maveas: this URL has a walk through of it: http://razvangavril.com/linux-administration/custom-ubuntu-server-iso/
[20:53] <Quantumpants> SoundsFromSound thanks
[20:53] <mydog2> hey...
[20:53] <maveas> ekool: I did that: Added preseed.cfg to the root, added md5sum to the md5sum file
[20:54] <cipherson> Hey people, how are we today? lots of issues?
[20:54] <mydog2> anyone here a guru at ssh - ssh using ssh pub/priv keys to connect to centos?
[20:54] <maveas> ekool: I tried to specify the preseed file in the boot options.. nothing happens. I'll take a quick look at you link.
[20:54] <cipherson> mydog what are you trying to do?
[20:54] <ekool> maveas: i've never just dumped the preeseed in the root, i prefer to pass it via the append option on the kernel boot parameter
[20:55] <mydog2> i've got a weird issue, where I can't seem to implement pub/private keys between a centos client connecting to a ubuntu vm... using ssh pub/private keys
[20:55] <Quantumpants> Ok, as a newbe wanting to know how to program how do I start?
[20:55] <cipherson> mydog2, so your connectingfrom centOS to and ubuntu machine using ssh keys correct?
[20:55] <kostkon> Quantumpants, for ubuntu? start here:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[20:55] <mydog2> i've created the pub/priv keys.. added the files in the correct dirs...
[20:56] <maveas> ekool: Should't be the same as specifying the file via the boot options?
[20:56] <mydog2> looked over various articles from people who've had issues..
[20:56] <mydog2> cipherson, - that's what i'm aiming for! i've done the same thing with centos to centos
[20:56] <cipherson> mydog2 can you access the ubuntu machine from another system with the keys?
[20:56] <ekool> maveas: Well, the method your using isn't working, I've never tried that way. I've used this and it works. All I know /me shrugs....
[20:56] <maveas> ekool: k, I'll give it a try. :)
[20:57] <mydog2> cipherson,  - haven't got a way to test that
[20:57] <cipherson> hmm
[20:57] <Quantumpants> thanks KostKon
[20:57] <mydog2> cipherson,  - i can ssh/passwd into the ub from the centos though..
[20:57] <maveas> mydog2: does the sshd accept keys? (/etc/ssh/sshd_config)
[20:58] <cipherson> mydog2, that sounds like the ubuntu system is not setup correctly for ssh keys
[20:58] <maveas> mydog2: did you copy the key correctly? (try use ssh-copy-id)
[20:58] <mydog2> maveas,  - i assumed so. as a default.. but i didn't check.. what's the attribute for that?
[20:58] <dankest> I'm writing a bash script to run a ruby script inside of a screen.  I'm using this syntax, but if doesn't create a new screen session!  screen -d -m -S shard_11 "SHARD_ID=11 bundle exec ruby bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9008"
[20:58] <cipherson> mydog2, ssh-copy-id <username>@<host>
[20:59] <sobczyk_> is it ok to use saucy kernel packages in raring?
[20:59] <cipherson> see here
[20:59] <cipherson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[20:59] <dankest> Any I doing anythin obviously wrong?
[20:59] <bsdbandit> any kernel hackers in this channel
[20:59] <maveas> mydog2: RSAAuthentication yes
[20:59] <maveas> PubkeyAuthentication yes
[20:59] <bsdbandit> hacking on the ubuntu kernel
[20:59] <bsdbandit> ?
[20:59] <maveas> mydog2: I assume you are using RSA..
[20:59] <Quantumpants> thanks for the help guys
[20:59] <bsdbandit> np
[20:59] <bsdbandit> 0_0
[21:00] <cipherson> dankest>, just a sec  im confirming
[21:00] <maveas> mydog2: remember to reload the config (service ssh reload)
[21:00] <dankest> cipherson: thanks
[21:01] <cipherson> dankest, whats the full command you want to run?
[21:01] <wylde> dankest: bin/pnapi_server.rb ----> /bin/pnapi_server.rb ? Probably not starting since it can't find the ruby script
[21:01] <dankest> SHARD_ID=11 bundle exec ruby bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9008
[21:01] <Fyodorovna> sobczyk_, You wont have support here if there is a problem technically is all.
[21:01] <cipherson> dankest and this command works correctly out of screen right?
[21:02] <djdduty> Hello everyone!
[21:02] <dankest> cipherson: Tried changing path, no effect
[21:02] <dankest> and yeah, it works outside of screen
[21:02] <djdduty> Good, it's working, I am having an issue.
[21:02] <dankest> wait
[21:02] <dankest> yeah
[21:02] <dankest> haha
[21:02] <dankest> it works outside screen
[21:02] <dankest> if I just run the command, my script runs
[21:03] <mydog2> let me test more..
[21:03] <cipherson> dankest, do screen -ls and see if it created a screen at all
[21:03] <cipherson> there might be an error inside it
[21:03] <cipherson> if there is one
[21:03] <djdduty> Just instaleld ubuntu 12.04, target system, so I need to get my program compiling on it, basically I installed libglfw2 and libglew1.6, but I cannot find the damned header files ANYWHERE, especially not in /usr/include/GL/ like they are supposed to be, so how do I check the install script of the packages to see where they put them?
[21:03] <dankest> cipherson: it did not
[21:03] <cipherson> hmm
[21:03] <djdduty> I tried using find, but it cannot find them.
[21:04] <djdduty> what good is a dev package without headers?
[21:04] <dankest> cd ..
[21:04] <maveas> mydog2: Let me know how it goes :)
[21:04] <dankest> whoops
[21:04] <djdduty> nevermind
[21:04] <djdduty> ignore me
[21:04] <Jordan_U> djdduty: Neither of the two packages you mentioned are -dev packages.
[21:04] <cipherson> dankest, try without the -S shard_11
[21:05] <djdduty> I answered my own question.
[21:05] <djdduty> Jordan_U: yes I know, I answered my own question as soon as I said that.
[21:05] <djdduty> Jordan_U: sorry, I come from Arch, where everything is perfect(for me) :P
[21:05] <cipherson> dankest, try only with the -d -m flags
[21:05] <Fyodorovna> !cookie | djdduty
[21:05] <djdduty> no offense to you guys, I just never used ubuntu
[21:05] <dankest> cipherson: nope
[21:06] <dankest> cipherson: still no new screen on -ls
[21:06] <cipherson> sec
[21:06] <Fyodorovna> lol you helped yourself djdduty
[21:06] <dankest> cipherson: kk.  Thank you so mmuch for your help
[21:06] <cuddylier> Anyone know why a screen appears to stop allowing me type in it after having it active for a while? I always detach before closing Putty etc or going inactive.
[21:07] <cuddylier> I have to stop the process and start it again for me to be able to type in the screen, I can see the output from the process fine
[21:07] <Fyodorovna> cuddylier, might be timing out.
[21:07] <cuddylier> Fyodorovna If I reopen SSH I still can't type
[21:07] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dmS "command"
[21:08] <cuddylier> I can detach the screen while it's like this though
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> not sure
[21:08] <dankest> cipherson: I get: Must run suid root for multiuser support.
[21:08] <dankest> I could run it sudo, but none of my ruby stuff is installed under that user.
[21:09] <zico> j
[21:09] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dmS shared "command"
[21:09] <maveas> ekool: Doesn't work.. :/
[21:09] <cipherson> shared would been the screen name to share
[21:09] <dankest> cipherson: no new screen instace.
[21:09] <dankest> Command went though
[21:09] <cipherson> hmmm try this
[21:10] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dmS shared "echo test"
[21:10] <cipherson> simple test
[21:10] <dankest> cipherson: nothing
[21:10] <jm__> \join #debian
[21:10] <dankest> command ran, but nothing happened.  Back at $
[21:10] <dankest> jm__: other slash :)
[21:11] <cipherson> weird with both S or no S i got screens
[21:11] <dankest> wtf
[21:11] <cipherson> your got screen installed right ? just making sure
[21:11] <dankest> haha yeah
[21:11] <dankest> I'm running a bunch of them
[21:11] <cipherson> hmmmm sec
[21:11] <dankest> I'm just trying to bash script this so I need them in a single line form
[21:12] <dankest> Maybe I need to update screen?
[21:12] <dankest> I'm running 2-may-06
[21:12] <cipherson> you can try that
[21:12] <cipherson> i got the same one tho
[21:12] <cipherson> try without the s
[21:12] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dm "echo test"
[21:13] <hayer_> "netstat -i" output seems to be malformed, or is the flag something like "0 BMRU" and "0 LRU"?
[21:13] <dankest> cipherson: closer, now I have this
[21:13] <dankest> 11849.echo test	(09/17/2013 02:13:12 PM)	(Detached)
[21:13] <dankest> when I resume it though, there's nothing going on inside
[21:13] <cipherson> O.o that better sign
[21:13] <dankest> *attach it
[21:14] <cipherson> i see whats happening 1 sec
[21:14] <dankest> <3
[21:14] <hayer_> Because it is supposed to return "MTU Met", "RX-OK", "RX-ERR", "RX-DRP", "RX-OVR", "TX-OK", "TX-ERR", "TX-DRP", "TX-OVR", "Flg", right? Cause if I align them I get "0  BMRU" and "0  LRU" as "flg"
[21:15] <cipherson> ok dankest here the thing you must do, its a 2 part command
[21:16] <djdduty> oh, nastly looking error, undefined reference to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:16] <djdduty> this seems like it is going to be a pain.
[21:16] <cipherson> just testing it
[21:16] <dankest> kk
[21:16] <dankest> Thanks again
[21:16] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, can anyone help - I can't seem to get all my Windows to save position and size.
[21:19] <cariveri> Hey. after upgrade there are a lot of app icons missing. how can I get them back?
[21:19] <cipherson> dankest still here just trying on my side
[21:19] <dankest> kk
[21:24] <itanshi> hello, is there a definitive guide for touch screen driver support for ubuntu?
[21:25] <djdduty> fixed it
[21:26] <c0nfusedLubunter> Can someone tell me, can i somewhere find the "clipboard file"? Actually, does it event exist as a file? Where is the data stored when you CTRL + C?
[21:26] <cipherson> dankest, screen -dmt "test" bash -c 'while true;do date; sleep 2; done'
[21:26] <cipherson> test is the title
[21:26] <cipherson> bash -c 'command'
[21:27] <cipherson> the command i have outputs the date every 2 secs to test
[21:28] <bekks> cipherson: In your RAM.
[21:28] <dankest> cipherson: thanks!@
[21:28] <cipherson> worked?
[21:28] <cipherson> lol
[21:29] <cipherson> bekks? sup
[21:29] <bekks> cipherson: Ah, I mistabbed. :)
[21:29] <cipherson> Lol np :P
[21:29] <bekks> c0nfusedLubunter: In your RAM.
[21:30] <mydog2> ok.. oh ubuntu gods!!! i changed the strictmodes from yes to no.. and managed to get the keys working.. so, does this point to a perms issue on ubuntu within the ssh dir structure.. and if it does.. what/where can i get specific (like a 6th grader) docs on just what the prems/owner of the dirs/files should be..
[21:30] <c0nfusedLubunter> bekks: Is it somehow accessible as a "file" ?
[21:30] <gordonjcp> mydog2: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:30] <cipherson> mydog2, whats the error
[21:31] <bekks> c0nfusedLubunter: Nope. Because it is available as clipboard.
[21:31] <mydog2> hey cipherson  the previous err was Permission denied (publickey).
[21:32] <cipherson> did the user that is accessing the login create the file?
[21:32] <mydog2> but once i changed the strictmodes per a couple of articles.. the keys worked
[21:32] <augustrush> My computer lost power and now wont boot. Do i have to do a fresh install?
[21:33] <mydog2> cipherson,  was that for me.. and if it was.. no.. i created the keys on a separate machine..
[21:33] <funky> hey folks,  I am using windows soft to upload stuff in bulk to ubuntu, I got sftp user setup and it works with winscp, when I click on test connection it says yes working, when it comes to upload it says permission denied
[21:33] <funky> what can it be?
[21:33] <mydog2> and i pushed the pub key over to the ubuntu, where i then sshed in as the "user" that i'll be sshing as
[21:33] <cipherson> mydog2, run sudo chown username sshkeyfile
[21:34] <cipherson> got to make sure the user logging in owns the file
[21:34] <wylde> funky: the permissions on the target directory.
[21:34] <dankest> cipherson: ah, it works with date but not with my ruby script
[21:34] <mydog2> cipherson, on the ubuntu.. there's only the authorized_keys file.. is that the file you want the data on?
[21:34] <dankest> cipherson: maybe it's the env var I'm pasing in?
[21:34] <mydog2> there's no id_rsa.pub file
[21:35] <cipherson> dankest, the var your passing the command should be like this var="dlhfds"; command
[21:35] <dankest> screen -dmt "test" bash "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"
[21:35] <cipherson> mydog2, when do you see this error ? when your logging in?
[21:35] <cipherson> dankest, yea like that
[21:36] <cipherson> your missing-c
[21:36] <BruceS> I have disabled kernel 3.2.0-053 and reverted to 052 on my many 12.04.3 systems since the later one causes the system to hang from time to time.  Have I cut myself off from upgrades and security patches?
[21:36] <cipherson> screen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"
[21:36] <cipherson> -c = command
[21:36] <adac> someone familiar with samba server config? I have the folleing configuration: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6600861 Problems are: I cannot access as a guest. Second problme ist that the share is not visible on the network, only when i directly access the samba share via ip adress. Any ideas?
[21:36] <mydog2> cipherson,  - yeah... when i do the ssh into the box...
[21:36] <dankest> cipherson: nada :(((
[21:36] <eugenio> hello guys, I have problem with my ubuntu, after boot I have the message “The system is running in low-graphics mode”, what can I do?
[21:37] <cipherson> mydog2, try and copy the key over again should be the public one
[21:37] <cipherson> dankest, whats in the window? and error?
[21:37] <dankest> Doesn't instantiate a screen
[21:37] <dankest> no error
[21:38] <cipherson> ok lets seen
[21:38] <cipherson> see*
[21:38] <dankest> screen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"
[21:39] <cipherson> dankest, the issue is once the command stops the screen will terminate and we don't see an error, try this screen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000 > /tmp/script_message.log"
[21:39] <cipherson> maybe this output file will shed some light
[21:39] <mydog2> cipherson, - yeah.. all i do.. is scp it.. and then clear out the auth keyfile.. and then cat the pub file to append it to the authkeyfile.
[21:40] <cipherson> mydog2, try and follow this to test, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[21:40] <cipherson> make the keys on the server your logging into
[21:41] <MelRay> I'm installing the multimedia extras from command line and it is wanting to configure ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it is stuck. I have scrolled to the bottom of the text hit enter no joy..anyone know how to tell it to proceed?
[21:41] <cipherson> just to make sure the settings are right
[21:42] <cipherson> dankest, anything from that file?