[00:01] <zykotick9> MercX: try #c++
[00:01] <MercX> quiet over there
[00:01] <barbara____> ugh I just installed ubuntu 12.10 for my grandmother lol and ubuntu one is not showing up on the system tray
[00:02] <barbara____> im using gnome-fallback-session
[00:02] <barbara____> package manager shows it installed
[00:02] <zykotick9> barbara____: you might want to try the #ubuntu-one channel?
[00:02] <barbara____> thanks
[00:02] <barbara____> but i figured it was an ubuntu issue
[00:04] <MrLahey>  Hey thereI am running Lubuntu 13.04 and can't seem to resolve a monitor issue. I am on a laptop with a 1280x800 display, and connected an external monitor with a 1920x1080 display. On the large external display the lxpanel bar is the width of the screen, but program windows such as Firefox etc are behaving as if they are on the laptop monitor with a 1280x800 resolution-in other words they open as smaller windows in the upper left han
[00:04] <MrLahey> d corner of the screen. I have been playing around with arandr but cannot fix it
[00:05] <robin0800> barbara____, Don't think it will show until you have set it up
[00:05] <barbara____> any idea how i can launch it
[00:05] <MercX> MrLahey: are you clonginy our monitors?
[00:05] <frinott> MercX: shoot
[00:06] <barbara____> alright im logging in lets see if it goes to the tray
[00:06] <zykotick9> MrLahey: TPBs rules!  best of luck with your issue.
[00:06] <robin0800> barbara____, From the menu its in system preferences
[00:06] <MercX> frinott: I am getting undefined reference errors, i believe from the X11 library
[00:07] <MercX> i just installed all the libs (packages) required by the source code,
[00:07] <barbara____> good news is it's syncing bad news is... still not in the tray
[00:07] <MercX> what is a good way to find where these functions? exist
[00:08] <frinott> paste gcc output to paste.ubuntu.com
[00:10] <detly> huh
[00:10] <MercX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960821/
[00:10] <detly> I actually now have an installed ubuntu system on /dev/sda
[00:10] <Pici> !who
[00:10] <detly> it just won't boot
[00:10] <barbara____> i did add to panel and ubuntuone isnt a choice
[00:10] <MrLahey> MercX  I'm not sure if I need to be cloning...I just want it to work fullscreen when I am hooked up to the monitor and work normally on the laptop when not using the external monitor
[00:10] <trism> MercX: you need the -llibrary lines at the end after the objects they reference
[00:11] <detly> /dev/sda1 is a 0xEE GPT partition, which seems to be right from what I've read (although it's impossible to tell obsolete info from correct info)
[00:11] <jman074> so i added the netflix and wine combo on my ubuntu 12.4 and it loads netflix but when you click on the show or movie it crashes :( help
[00:11] <detly> does anyone know how I make it boot?
[00:11] <trism> MercX: g++ -Wall -Weffc++ -o xrr-events xrr-events.cpp -lX11 -lXrandr
[00:11] <MrLahey> zykotick9 thanks lol yeah love TPB
[00:11] <robin0800> barbara____, Make sure indicator applet complete is on the task bar
[00:12] <MercX> trism: genius!
[00:12] <barbara____> =[ that just showed the same icons twice robin
[00:12] <RumPoint> BATT MAN
[00:13] <RumPoint> BAT MANN
[00:13] <FloodBot1> RumPoint: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13]  * RumPoint suicides
[00:15] <reazem> frinott, I downloaded netbeans from the official website and it worked. The repo version dosen't work...
[00:17] <fOmey> howdy
[00:17] <fOmey> anyone actie
[00:17] <fOmey> willing to give me a hand ?
[00:17] <kroq-gar78> !ask > f0mey
[00:17] <kroq-gar78> !ask
[00:18] <_andyj_> but can I ask to ask about asking?
[00:18] <kroq-gar78> :(
[00:18] <Guest19355> HELP, am looking to see how to install / enable toshiba-acpi kernel module.  Was told to do sudo modprobe toshiba-acpi this results in no return and nothing.  I am trying to see my battery charge level.  acpi -v returns acpi version 1.06 installed
[00:18] <tharkun> I need to download the package that contains the slapd source files and ubuntu patches. My /etc/apt/sources.list is all screwed up for this task, Any url where I can get the right info ?
[00:19] <tharkun> Guest19355: acpi -V
[00:19] <jrib> tharkun: why is your sources.list "screwed up"?
[00:19] <fOmey> fair call, im having issues booting into ubuntu. iv booted into recovery mode from grub... attempted to run  "startx", althrough it dies with erro "fatal server erro: no screens found".
[00:19] <tharkun> jrib: Please don't make me humiliate myself. Spare me the pain
[00:19] <_andyj_> Guest19355: http://memebeam.org/toys/ToshibaAcpiDriver
[00:19] <RoDiMuS-X> Does anyone know of a way to go from Ubuntu-Gnome 13.04 to Ubuntu 13.04 using the package manager?
[00:19] <_andyj_> old patch prolly in main line kernel now
[00:20] <kroq-gar78> fOmey i've just had these issues on my desktop and have fixed it. do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[00:20] <Guest19355> how do i find out what kernel version i have ?
[00:20] <jrib> tharkun: well depending on the answer, you may want to reinstall.  Anyway, you just need the deb-src line for the repository slapd comes from and then issue « apt-get source slapd »
[00:20] <jman074> so i added the netflix and wine combo on my ubuntu 12.4 and it loads netflix but when you click on the show or movie it crashes :( help
[00:20] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: i was using open source drivers, although i did attempt to install gnome3 last night.. since then, it carked it.
[00:20] <_andyj_> Guest19355: uname -r
[00:20] <jrib> tharkun: apt-cache policy slapd will give you information about the repository it comes from by the way
[00:20] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: iv also ran a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to make sure I have all the needed packages
[00:21] <Breetai> I have a samba question about file permissions.  So lets say my group is mp3 who do I want to have own the folder in linux? root? nobody? myself? also make a user mp3?
[00:21] <Anonymous_>  I was wondering if I could cancel downloading packages using wubi  I have it downloading and I want to cancel it.
[00:21] <tharkun> jrib: thanks, guessing about time, fixing this system will take longer than reinstalling.
[00:21] <kroq-gar78> fOmey have you tried to uninstall gnome3 yet and autoremove anything left? looks like your problem isn't the same as the one i had, unfortunately
[00:22] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, ??
[00:22] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: how do i get networking enabled via recovery root console ? i have not attempted to remove gnome3
[00:22] <amccloud> I don't understand why this won't work sudo su - amccloud -c "export COW=moo; echo $COW" (it echoes a blank line)
[00:22] <saschagehlich> hey, my first attempt on running a manually compiled kernel failed hard. any hints on what could've gone wrong? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166046
[00:22] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, just kill it in task manager or shut off your system?
[00:22] <Anonymous_> Dover, is there a cancel button for downloading Ubuntu with wubi?
[00:23] <Anonymous_> Will that corrupt the hard drive possibly?
[00:23] <kroq-gar78> fOmey if you're talking about LAN, then you can run "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" (could be eth1, depending on your system). it should work then
[00:23] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, I don't know
[00:23] <lauratika> on secure shell i have a openshh key generated that i dont remember set at any time, what is this for?
[00:23] <Anonymous_> Also I was wondering if I could dual boot XP and Ubuntu with Ubuntu on one hard drive and XP on the other?
[00:24] <DoverMo> !dualboot
[00:24] <fOmey> kroq-gar78:  just attempted to run both eth0 & eth1, still no avial.. "failed to fetch" when attempting to run a "sudo apt-get update"
[00:24] <Guest19355> andy-j : i am lost when it says apply patch to kernel source and compile it.. How what when where
[00:24] <Anonymous_> So will that work?
[00:25] <kroq-gar78> fOmey i'm assuming you can't ping anything then, right? like ubuntu.com or google.com ?
[00:25] <Anonymous_> XP on my C:/ and Ubuntu on my E:/?
[00:25] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: correct, unknown host
[00:25] <kroq-gar78> fOmey ok. you can make sure of the ethernet interface's name by running "ifconfig".
[00:26] <_andyj_> Guest19355: you need to check your kernel configuration, the mainline (may/or may not have) included that ACPI patch at some point.  Reading for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[00:27] <fOmey> kroq-gar78:
[00:27] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, do you have 70$?
[00:27] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: iv got quite a few interfaces coming up here, unable to scroll
[00:27] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: iv got an idea, ill drop back into recovery and enable networking throught there
[00:27] <Anonymous_> Dover, why do you ask?
[00:27] <_andyj_> Guest19355: when you have the kernel downloaded you need to run make menuconfig and check if it has your ACPI option, if it doesn't you'll need to patch the kernel
[00:27] <kroq-gar78> fOmey shift+pg up/down should let you scroll. ok, try that i guess
[00:28] <UbuntuHelp_> Ok, So i have two harddrives. I want to have ubuntu on one and windows on the other. Is that possible?
[00:28] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, cuz if you did, you could just buy a external hard drive and put your ubuntu on there
[00:28] <saschagehlich> hey, my first attempt on running a manually compiled kernel failed hard. any hints on what could've gone wrong? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166046
[00:28] <Anonymous_> Dover
[00:28] <Anonymous_> I currently am using an external hard drive
[00:28] <Anonymous_> Also is a 1 gb flash drive enough to boot to ubuntu?
[00:28] <kroq-gar78> Anonymous_ as a live boot, yes it's enough
[00:28] <Wulf> Anonymous_: how are we supposed to know when you use windows-terms like 'C' and 'E'?
[00:29] <Guest19355> thnx andy-j, but that seems WAY above my lvl of skill.. am thinking 1 step wrong and system turns to brick mode.
[00:29] <Anonymous_> Well
[00:29] <bootthanoo> hello
[00:29] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: doh shift+pgup, ill remember that.. ahh no luck with networking still
[00:29] <Anonymous_> Do you guys think I should go for the live installation or the dual boot off my External drive?
[00:29] <bootthanoo> I have a question about making an app using the Ubuntu SDK
[00:29] <kroq-gar78> fOmey hmmm. can you tell me which interfaces come up after you run ifconfig? not all the addresses or anything, just the names
[00:29] <bootthanoo> Is this the right place?
[00:29] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: eth1 definately connected to my network. although no activity
[00:30] <xmetal> hmm @ newegg issues
[00:30] <Bosi> Hello everyone, I'm trying to adjust the clock on Xubuntu 13.04. I'm trying sudo date<PHONE_NUMBER>13 and it works just fine, but once in a while it goes back to my old time when I reboot... is there another way to adjust the clock so it won't go back?
[00:30] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, do you not have an internal HD?
[00:30] <UbuntuHelp_> Dover
[00:30] <Anonymous_> I do
[00:30] <kroq-gar78> bootthanoo #ubuntu-phone might be a better place
[00:30] <Anonymous_> I have an internal and an external
[00:30] <UbuntuHelp_> He has an internal to boot windows
[00:30] <Wulf> Bosi: buy new battery
[00:30] <Anonymous_> My Internal is booting to Windows XP
[00:30] <UbuntuHelp_> and external to boot ubuntu
[00:30] <Anonymous_> My external isn't booting to anything right now
[00:31] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, and you have a cd/dvd drive?
[00:31] <Anonymous_> Yep
[00:31] <kroq-gar78> fOmey hm then i'm pretty much out of the basic ideas. "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" might solve the problem, but i don't really think so. it's worth a try, i'd think
[00:32] <bootthanoo> I see I can develop using HTML5
[00:32] <bootthanoo> that includes JS/CSS3 si?
[00:32] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: hmm
[00:33] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: this is interesting, "unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[00:33] <Anonymous_> Oh, and I am on 32bit
[00:33] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, so you could burn a live cd, wipe all the partitions on your external drive via fdisk, then install ubuntu on it. or where you thinking of something else?
[00:33] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: looks like its not mounted as rw..
[00:33] <Anonymous_> Dover
[00:33] <Pici> bootthanoo: #ubuntu-app-devel would likely be a better place
[00:33] <Anonymous_> I was thinking of just making a 32gb partion on my external
[00:33] <UbuntuHelp_> patition
[00:33] <Anonymous_> I have about 400 mb of data on it ATM
[00:33] <kroq-gar78> fOmey yep, from what i recall sounds right. "sudo mount -o remount /" if i remember correctly
[00:33] <UbuntuHelp_> partition*
[00:34] <kroq-gar78> Pici thank you, that's a better place ;)
[00:34] <DoverMo> Anonymous_, that's completely doable via the liveDVD
[00:34] <Marlenee> any programmes that clean all logs on linux for CLI use like clean login and last login all thing like that
[00:34] <Anonymous_> Well
[00:34] <reisio> Marlenee: sure but why bother
[00:34] <Anonymous_> Well
[00:35] <Anonymous_> Could someone help me make a live usb?
[00:35] <reisio> Anonymous_: sure
[00:35] <Anonymous_> Alright
[00:35] <reisio> Anonymous_: on Windows?
[00:35] <Anonymous_> Yep
[00:35] <Anonymous_> Windows XP
[00:35] <UbuntuHelp_> Best OS
[00:35] <reisio> Anonymous_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:37] <Deu_> what all?
[00:37] <reisio> Deu_: what all
[00:37] <Deu_> how do all?
[00:37] <reisio> just fine, how do you?
[00:37] <Deu_> thx me good
[00:37] <Deu_> and u?
[00:37] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: hmmm this is very strange, im attempting to enable networking via recovery once more.. ok finally have networking
[00:37] <blaircse> Hey ppl, just installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop and my Ethernet connections seems to not work,  i can get an ip but no surf, everything seems fine when using wireless from the same router   any suggestions would be awesome
[00:37] <Anonymous_> Will I have to format the USB?
[00:37] <Anonymous_> Oh
[00:37] <Anonymous_> The USB is Fat32
[00:37] <Anonymous_> Is that a problem?
[00:38] <detly> so I can execute a shell in the rescue mode of the installer
[00:38] <reisio> Anonymous_: probably not
[00:38] <detly> either on /dev/sda2 (my new ubuntu root) or /dev/sdb1 (the installation media)
[00:38] <Anonymous_> Alright
[00:38] <Anonymous_> Do you know how to format a USB drive in windows?
[00:38] <detly> can I make my ubuntu system bootable from here?
[00:38] <Deu_> i have big penis
[00:38] <Deu_> for ikonia
[00:38] <Deu_> ^^
[00:39] <UbuntuHelp_> Goto my computer, right click your usb, should say format. Then format.
[00:39] <fOmey> hmmm
[00:39] <UbuntuHelp_> Not sure if FAT32
[00:39] <kroq-gar78> fOmey cool! so we still have to fix the monitors problem. can you pastebinit "/var/log/lightdm/x-o.log"? unless, there's sensitive information, which i don't really believe there is.
[00:39] <UbuntuHelp_> Ok
[00:39] <UbuntuHelp_> Anonymous_:
[00:40] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: how would i do that via recovery console ?
[00:40] <Marlenee> reisio : what is that programmes
[00:40] <Neo> hi
[00:40] <UbuntuHelp_> Anonymous_: How big is your usb?
[00:40] <reisio> Marlenee: why bother?
[00:40] <reisio> Neo: hi
[00:40] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: nevermind, theres a package "pastebinit" installing now =p
[00:41] <Neo> I LOVE IKONIA!^^
[00:41] <kroq-gar78> f0mey do you use lightdm? i didn't ask
[00:42] <Anonymous_> Mine?
[00:42] <Anonymous_> 1000 mb
[00:42] <Anonymous_> But it refuses to be formatted.
[00:42] <UbuntuHelp_> hm
[00:42] <Itsnotmeikoniatr> hello!
[00:42] <reisio> 'lo its
[00:42] <UbuntuHelp_> I think it needs atleast 2gb to boot ubuntu from it
[00:42] <Itsnotmeikoniatr> what?
[00:42] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: im not entirely sure to be honest... i was using the stock open source ati drivers installed with ubuntu
[00:43] <Itsnotmeikoniatr> what all do how?
[00:43] <Itsnotmeikoniatr> please
[00:43] <kroq-gar78> fOmey i'm talking about the login screen. did you change it from the default? if not, then it's lightdm.
[00:43] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: no, i dont believe so..
[00:43] <kroq-gar78> fOmey unless you installed an ubuntu derivative.
[00:43] <Itsnotmeikoniatr> meow
[00:44] <Itsnotmeikoniatr> i go sleep
[00:44] <Anonymous_> Well
[00:44] <Anonymous_> Will a 700mb Live CD work?
[00:44] <Itsnotmeikoniatr> bb ikonia and other my virtual friends
[00:44] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: preferably what i want to do is just bring ubuntu back to default unity with default settings..
[00:45] <climagiste> hi, I'm here to see if anyone knows why an upgrade to 13.10 is failing: it's throwing an error on pkgProblemResolver: resolve generated breaks
[00:45] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: or gnome, im not fussy..
[00:45] <kroq-gar78> f0mey ok. "sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log | pastebinit" should work.
[00:45] <kroq-gar78> f0mey basically, there could be an error farther up in the xorg log that could shed more light on the issue.
[00:45] <climagiste> I had tried the pf-linux kernel recently, and it was crashing on resume, so I followed the instructions to uninstall it
[00:45] <fOmey> kroq-gar78:  excellent
[00:46] <climagiste> and I got ambitious, trying to install 13.10
[00:46] <kroq-gar78> f0mey tell me the pastebin link after you ran the command
[00:46] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960886/
[00:46] <climagiste> I don't need to install, just wondering why it might be failing
[00:47] <Marlenee> reisio : no bother just for my privacy
[00:48] <reisio> Marlenee: encrypt your filesystem/s
[00:49] <Increase> Hola
[00:49] <Marlenee> reisio : there others user have to login to my root
[00:49] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960886/
[00:49] <reisio> Increase: hi
[00:49] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: just incase, you didnt recieve that =p
[00:50] <Marlenee> reisio : i can encypt with truecrypt but i perfer cleaner
[00:50] <reisio> Marlenee: you just want to clear shell history?
[00:50] <reisio> because that's easy
[00:50] <kroq-gar78> fOmey yeah i see it ;) i know it's bad practice, but i think I have seen the issue of installing gnome and it not coming up on google before
[00:50] <reisio> although a lot of terms store data in /tmp
[00:50] <reisio> but most people don't know that
[00:51] <reisio> and if you protected against things most people didn't know, you'd never be done protecting yourself
[00:51] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: mmm, i ran a "sudo apt-get remove gnome
[00:51] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: gnome-shell*
[00:51] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: but i dont think that is whats is causing it..
[00:52] <kroq-gar78> fOmey do "sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell" and "sudo apt-get autoremove" to clean things up after that.
[00:52] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: running that now
[00:52] <Marlenee> reisio : tell me that
[00:53] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: startx still failing..
[00:53] <reisio> Marlenee: for bash, for example, you just run echo '' ~/.bash_history && history -c
[00:53] <kroq-gar78> f0mey after restart? prob won't fix things, but it might help other things
[00:53] <reisio> Marlenee: which you can probably put into ~/.bash_logout to be run automatically
[00:53] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: ill reboot now
[00:53] <reisio> Marlenee: erm, echo '' > ~/.bash_history, that is
[00:53] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: i wont go into recovery mode tho this time, will see what happens
[00:53] <reisio> or I s'pose you could just rm it, too
[00:54] <Marlenee> reisio : -bash: /root/.bash_history: Permission denied
[00:54] <jKlaus> Anyone else having serious issues with Ubuntu x64 and the NVS 5400M graphics card?
[00:54] <reisio> Marlenee: hrmm?
[00:54] <lauratika> how can i change thename of the pc?
[00:54] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: i see ubuntu !
[00:54] <kroq-gar78> f0mey :D
[00:54] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: dam it..
[00:55] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: lol, "could not write bytes: broken pipe"
[00:55] <kroq-gar78> fOmey where does that error come up?
[00:55] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: ubuntu logo got me excited there, though i was home clean
[00:55] <Increase> Does anyone know if reaver is useable on ubuntu instead of backtrack??
[00:55] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: clear*, that pops up after the ubuntu logo
[00:55] <Marlenee> reisio : what can i do for changing permission
[00:55] <kroq-gar78> Increase if i'm not mistaken, i've seen an article on using it on 13.04 through a PPA
[00:56] <Increase> I've been trying to use it on ubuntu, but it just seems like it won't work. It keeps limiting the AP or something
[00:56] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Increase: reaver is in the Ubuntu repos.
[00:57] <fOmey> kroq-gar78:  im running 12.04 ltes
[00:57] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: hmm this is so confusing, im thinking i might just reinstall ubuntu..
[00:58] <reisio> Marlenee: be root?
[00:58] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: might be easyer...
[00:58] <hellokitty> So my computer has been freezing repeatedly, this is the kernel log just before the last freeze. http://pastebin.com/qLpSa5QSsdf any suggestions as to what may be the cause?
[00:58] <kroq-gar78> fOmey if there's nothing much to lose on that machine, i don't see why not. it'll take time though
[00:59] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: i hate giving up on it, but iv spent like 3 hours on it now.. lol my home directory is on another partition any how so its not too bad.. ill jus have to reconfigure my android build enviroment which is going to be a pain
[00:59] <fOmey> kroq-gar78: i appreciate the help kroq, i really do mate.. thanks for taking some time to run me through it all.
[00:59] <detly> perhaps my mistake was installing GRUB
[01:02] <jKlaus> If ubuntu is failing constantly.. what OS would you advise?
[01:03] <lauratika> jKlaus: what issues you have that ubunut fails
[01:03] <jKlaus> issues with my 5400M
[01:03] <jKlaus> it'll boot alright one time.. then if I stop moving the mouse for more than a minute the whole thing freezes up
[01:03] <lauratika> dual booting?
[01:03] <jKlaus> then when i try to reboot it'll just stay at the black screen with the flashing white bar
[01:04] <jKlaus> the hdd is split but I'm not bouncing into windows between
[01:04] <jKlaus> after X number of attempted restarts eventually it'll load to the UI
[01:05] <jKlaus> but then as soon as I stop moving the mouse around it freezes up again
[01:07] <chalu> hello friends. my wubi installation is failing to load after I resized some windows partitions
[01:07] <Rexodus> 1644 nicks...
[01:07] <Rexodus> Moses kriebel!
[01:07] <Rexodus> :P
[01:07] <chalu> I just installed ubuntu 13 in a new partition
[01:07] <hellokitty> So my computer has been freezing repeatedly, this is the kernel log just before the last freeze. http://pastebin.com/qLpSa5QSsdf any suggestions as to what may be the cause?
[01:07] <jKlaus> chalu, I hope you have better luck than I did
[01:07] <jKlaus> I went back to LTS
[01:07] <jKlaus> but.. I'm still having issues getting nvidia driver working properly on LTS
[01:08] <jKlaus> ubuntu used to be awesome.. wtf
[01:08] <chalu> is there a way to move my files to the new installation ?
[01:08] <jKlaus> mount the other hdd?
[01:08] <chalu> since the old one cannot boot ?
[01:08] <jKlaus> err
[01:08] <jKlaus> partition
[01:08] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[01:08] <jKlaus> yes, mount the partition
[01:09] <chalu> jKlaus: they are all in one HDD
[01:09] <jKlaus> yes, I corrected myself to say partition
[01:09] <chalu> ok
[01:09] <chalu> thanks
[01:09] <jKlaus> do you know the partition id?
[01:09] <jKlaus> like..
[01:10] <jKlaus> sda3, hda4, etc
[01:10] <chalu> no
[01:10] <chalu> I just ran the wubi installer and rebooted to complete the installation
[01:11] <edgar> hello
[01:11] <robotdevil> sorry to ask this here but my last ten questions in #kubuntu have gone unanswered, by change does anyone here no where to get the kubuntu 13.04 alternate images?
[01:11] <jKlaus> sure you didn't wipe out the drive chalu?
[01:11] <chalu> and there was an ubuntu boot-loader option, which now fails
[01:11] <chalu> no
[01:11] <robotdevil> chance*
[01:11] <chalu> I did not wipe out the drive
[01:11] <jKlaus> chalu open gparted (install it if need be)
[01:11] <ZIPY> robotdevil: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/
[01:12] <jKlaus> you should be able to figure out the partitions identifier that way
[01:12] <ZIPY> eh
[01:12] <breed> Anyone know why Unetbootin won't accept my root password?
[01:12] <ZIPY> change to 13.4
[01:12] <jKlaus> then google "linux" and "mount"
[01:12] <jKlaus> you'll figure it out
[01:12] <jKlaus> Zipy are you telling someone to change to 13.04?
[01:12] <breed> Is there something wrong with 13.04?
[01:12] <ZIPY> the link
[01:13] <jKlaus> I had nothing but trouble with that turd
[01:13] <breed> I've had...relatively...little trouble with it
[01:13] <robotdevil> ZIPY: so the alternates are only for lts releases?
[01:13] <breed> There's some quirks, but I find it manageable
[01:13] <hellokitty> So my computer has been freezing repeatedly, this is the kernel log just before the last freeze. http://pastebin.com/qLpSa5QSsdf any suggestions as to what may be the cause?
[01:13] <jKlaus> I just want to go back to slackware 10.1 .. best install i've ever had
[01:13] <ZIPY> robotdevil: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/raring/release/
[01:13] <ZIPY> i meant change precise to raring ^^
[01:13] <breed> I started with 12.10, so I don't have much of a referenc e
[01:14] <jKlaus> I don't understand why ubuntu is just pushing crap out the door
[01:14] <jKlaus> hold a release until its ready to go..
[01:14] <robotdevil> ZIPY: yes that link only has desktop images
[01:14] <jKlaus> putting shit out there is just making more people leave the community
[01:14] <failmaster> robotdevil, change it in a more effective way http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:14] <breed> Anyways, does anyone here have experience with Unetbootin?  I just installed it and it asks for my root password, but won't accept my root password
[01:14] <fellayaboy> how do i merge two folders together using commandline.. say i have 2 User folders..each is located in a different directory how do i move them and merge all files and subfolders together
[01:14] <robotdevil> ZIPY: and there is a bug in manual partitioning in the installer in the desktop image
[01:14] <failmaster> breed, try gksudo "untebootin"
[01:15] <Mace268> i'm coming from red hat based distros. how much different is ubuntu under the hood?
[01:15] <shoosah> do u have any idea how to change sudoers file without root password?!
[01:15] <breed> failmaster:  that worked.  Do I need to do that every time I start it?  Do you mind telling me why that worked -- I'm tryna learn bash
[01:15] <reisio> Mace268: they all do the same things deep down
[01:15] <reisio> shoosah: that would defeat the purpose
[01:16] <Mace268> like is init stuff very similar?
[01:16] <zykotick9> shoosah: obviously, you can't.
[01:16] <fellayaboy> Mace269 you'll use ubuntu software center to install programs and basically you'll use sudo apt-get install "a program" to isntall any program from commandline... ubuntu uses .deb isntallation files rather than rpm
[01:16] <failmaster> breed, until it works without root privileges - yes
[01:16] <reisio> Mace268: depends on when you left red hat
[01:16] <Mace268> still run centos on my game server, and run sme server here at home
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Mace268: The basics are still GNU/Linux, but once you hit packaging, things change fast.
[01:16] <Marlenee> reisio : the command clean bash only what about clean login and "last" cmd
[01:16] <zykotick9> shoosah: well, there is not root password in ubuntu.  but you need sudo (aka root) access.
[01:17] <shoosah> I have the admin permission but not the root password, I just modified one of the files in sudoers and now it doesnt work out anymore!
[01:17] <failmaster> some common red hat difficults seemed to me way much more tough
[01:17] <failmaster> especially packaging-related )
[01:17] <fellayaboy> Mace269 sudo apt-get install gimp will install gimp fromt he repos..meaning that "gimp" is recognized they ahve it on the server and it will isntall it...say you download a .deb and double click that .deb.. you'll get a gui installer.. u could also use sudo dpkg -i "the program" to install a .deb file
[01:17] <zykotick9> shoosah: 9 times out of 10, modifying sudoers is the wrong method anyways.  what do you want to acheieve?
[01:18] <reisio> Marlenee: what does it matter when people were logged in?
[01:18] <kdawg> I TRIED MAKING A MULTI ISO WITH XBOOT however the thing only puts for if the images iun the main image folder
[01:18] <reisio> Mace268: http://nakedape.cc/wiki/PackageManagerCheatsheet :)
[01:18] <kdawg> and then i find it has another image folder inside the image folder
[01:18] <fellayaboy> how do i merge two folders together using commandline.. say i have 2 User folders..each is located in a different directory how do i move them and merge all files and subfolders together
[01:18] <shoosah> aykotick9, I do need to change it in order to give the right previlage for installing ceph
[01:18] <Mace268> seems ubuntu is a "have your cake and eat it too" distro :D
[01:18] <failmaster> shoosah, maybe you should have start with sudo su and passwd?
[01:19] <shoosah> I just entered pkexec visudo
[01:19] <kdawg> how would one load the other os if there not in the menu
[01:19] <zykotick9> shoosah: what?  that doesn't make much sense.  do you have a user that can run sudo?  if you, you have "ubuntu's version of root"
[01:19] <failmaster> shoosah, root doesn't have password by default, the whole thing was planned to do via sudo
[01:19] <shoosah> the root password is simply different from the admin pass!
[01:20] <ZIPY> kdawg: u need to update grub: sudo grub-update
[01:20] <zykotick9> s/if you/if so/
[01:20] <zykotick9> !root | shoosah
[01:20] <shoosah> I have two different users on my system
[01:20] <failmaster> but nothing stops you from reviving it until you 100% sure that you need it
[01:20] <ZIPY> kdawg: it will search for other os'
[01:20] <kdawg> i am on a windows 7 machine using xboot to make the image and checking it with QEMU emulator that comes with xboot
[01:20] <edgar> i have a question i am trying to connect my laptops harddrive to this laptop via a usb but my laptop cannot install it or see it...anyone knows how to fix
[01:20] <kdawg> zippy
[01:20] <Mace268> friendly enough not to be a pita but can still open it up and make it do all the custom stuff. Is this about right?
[01:21] <failmaster> shoosah, due to above fact it basically wants you to provide not "root password" in most cases, but the one which is set for common user account in order to grant permissions on sudo execution
[01:21] <zykotick9> shoosah: if you want a 2nd user to use sudo, use the 1st user to add the 2nd to the "sudo" group.  don't mess with sudoers.
[01:21] <failmaster> that's why they are different
[01:21] <hellokitty> So my computer has been freezing repeatedly, this is the kernel log just before the last freeze. http://pastebin.com/qLpSa5QSsdf any suggestions as to what may be the cause?
[01:22] <failmaster> hellokitty, This paste has been removed!
[01:22] <shoosah> zykotick9: it is not under my control!
[01:22] <zykotick9> shoosah: good luck then.
[01:22] <Marlenee> reisio : what is the command or the programme that can remve login and "last" cmd history
[01:23] <hellokitty> failmaster: sorry http://pastebin.com/qLpSa5QS
[01:23] <failmaster> Marlenee, history -c? .bash_history file, /var/log/wtmp
[01:23] <ni652336> hey?
[01:23] <kdawg> trying to put 8 version of ubuntu on one bootable iso
[01:23] <failmaster> Marlenee, packetstormsecurity for log viping tools to expand the knowledge on the subject
[01:24] <ni652336> kann einer Hier deutsch?
[01:24] <ZIPY> kdawg: i dont know xboot but i guess u create a ubuntu usb image with it right? so when u install from that it will install a menu to let u select ur os
[01:24] <kdawg> ja aber nicht so gut
[01:24] <Mace268> is ubuntu just as customizable as any other distro?
[01:24] <kdawg> yesh unfortunately it only created menu linux for 4 of them
[01:25] <kdawg> ir creates a usb/iso
[01:25] <reisio> Mace268: just as open source, so yes
[01:25] <kdawg> it*
[01:25] <failmaster> hellokitty, i guess that would be a good idea to bring here "dmesg" output, the whole thing
[01:25] <ni652336> does anyone know much about edubuntu?
[01:25] <zykotick9> reisio: with Unity, i question that...
[01:25] <Mace268> ok i've made my decision: gentoo-no ubuntu-yes
[01:25] <ZIPY> ni652336: its an extension for ubuntu, for educational purposes
[01:26] <reisio> zykotick9: Unity is open source, too
[01:26] <failmaster> Mace268, there is a system of building from source-packages in debian, so in ubuntu
[01:26] <zykotick9> reisio: yes, but is it very customizable? </ot>
[01:26] <reisio> zykotick9: being open source, it's as customizable as people want it to be
[01:27] <zykotick9> reisio: s/people/canonical/
[01:27] <failmaster> Mace268, you may want to investigate it around apt-src
[01:27] <Mace268> thanks for the tip i'll definitely look that up
[01:28] <ni652336> can someone Tell me how to install ubuntu os on my s3?
[01:28] <kdawg> just read this "3)   Sometimes Multiboot USB\ISO doesn't work on vmware, virtualbox, qemu etc. but works on real PC. So If you
[01:28] <kdawg>        are testing Multiboot USB\ISO on vmware,virtualbox, qemu etc. and it didn't boot .Then please do check it
[01:28] <kdawg>        again on Real PC." might be my problem so going to put it on the usb stick lol
[01:28] <ni652336> use y.u.m.i
[01:28] <reisio> zykotick9: it's free software, anyone can modify it any way they like
[01:29] <failmaster> Mace268, there is only one remark about using debian-based distros, they have pretty much the same, common and shared bugs and using non-LTS version or not stable in debian terms for servers and production purposes is a bad idea from start
[01:29] <kdawg> using xboot cause it can create iso files from other iso files
[01:29] <kdawg> SARDU and YUMI cant
[01:30] <ni652336> yumi can for shure
[01:30] <Mace268> non-LTS is ok for desktop installs though right?
[01:30] <aashu> hii
[01:30] <ni652336> hey
[01:30] <failmaster> Mace268, depends on your courage and ability to fix stuff
[01:31] <aashu> hi ni
[01:31] <xmetal> back ... just sent newegg support an email
[01:31] <Mace268> i don't mind getting my hands dirty, i'm just real rusty... been on windows for the last several years.
[01:32] <failmaster> Mace268, my subjective perception on things in context of the question is that it will be fine, there is a backup in case of ubuntu, hordes of people, which makes it easier for maintainers to troubleshoot things
[01:32] <aashu> lol
[01:32] <jmson311> anyone know how to add a user in bash and get instant access to all of the folders in home/user without having to manually login to the account?
[01:32] <failmaster> Mace268, but it applies mostly to desktop-oriented stuff
[01:32] <xmetal> i  wonder if i should give vlc on a different non-debian distro a shot (will be a pain to get all the dependencies though)
[01:32] <Mace268> makes sense
[01:32] <xmetal> have to do them all by hand
[01:32] <zykotick9> jmson311: ahhh, that's the default - read access for everyone?
[01:33] <failmaster> Mace268, i came from dark ages of slackware and i'm also too rusty for some modern stuff like gtk3 and network-manager
[01:34] <reisio> xmetal: why would it be a pain?
[01:34] <jmson311> if i add the user from the shell and then try to cd into the new users home directory all i can see is examples.desktop, I would like to be able to immediately write field to their Documents /Downloads, etc
[01:34] <jmson311> trying to make a script for some of our training VMs
[01:34] <zykotick9> jmson311: write is another matter...
[01:35] <reisio> jmson311: you can make those directories/files if you want
[01:35] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[01:35] <reisio> they probably won't exist otherwise until you install a desktop
[01:35] <dr_willis> jmson311:  how are you making the user? it normally clones whats in /etc/skel for their home
[01:36] <jmson311> useradd <username> -c "info" -p password -m
[01:36] <Mace268> failmaster, thanks for the infos :) i think i'll get going on it and turn my current windows install into a VirtualBox VM.
[01:36] <dr_willis> i allways use adduser.
[01:37] <zykotick9> jmson311: it's not going to help you in your case, but i'd suggest using adduser over useradd myself.
[01:37] <failmaster> Mace268, np, at least give it a try, in case of troubles get rid of stuff you're not familiar with, like i do :D
[01:37] <w30> jmson311, change all the users folders to a group of your choice and then give write permission to the files and folders marked that group
[01:38] <najc> hello!
[01:39] <c^^c^^> meh I installed ubuntu on my 80 year old grandmas laptop and desktop she couldn't figure out unity lol
[01:39] <najc> i was wondering if anyone might be able to answer a question for me.
[01:39] <c^^c^^> but gnome classic took her two seconds
[01:39] <failmaster> najc, just ask it
[01:39] <najc> Thank you.
[01:39]  * xmetal shakes fist in air @ unity
[01:39] <xmetal> :P
[01:39] <c^^c^^> hah
[01:39] <iananananan> so I've got a hard drive i'm pretty sure is busted, but i can't get it to read in a livecd
[01:39] <xmetal> tht is the one "desktop" i do not like at all
[01:40] <jmson311> @wm30 ill try that
[01:40] <dr_willis> 4yr old here can handle unity.
[01:40] <iananananan> disk utility shows me unknown partitions and errors
[01:40] <jmson311> sorry @w30
[01:40] <c^^c^^> dr_willis: If you come from a windows background and know nothing about computers I think gnome is the easiest transition
[01:40] <dr_willis> iananananan: what was on it?
[01:40] <failmaster> dr_willis, because it's out of wisdom environment
[01:40] <fOmey> iananananan: your partitions may be corrupt
[01:41] <w30> jmson311, add yourelf to that group
[01:41] <reisio> Unity is pretty Mac OS-y, indeed
[01:41] <iananananan> fOmey: dr_willis music, photos of a family member
[01:41] <fOmey> iananananan: i would suggest downloading gpart live cd, great little tool to have on ahnd.
[01:41] <Mace268> oh one more thing, how reliable is linux with r/w to ntfs partitions these days?
[01:41] <najc> I have a server that multiple users have sftp access to the server. The same server hosts apache, but there are instances where I want apache user to be able to access /home/someuser/ dirs to read/write files. I've tried adding the user to the apache group without luck.
[01:41] <iananananan> fOmey: is it significantly different enough from runninga livecd ubuntu and gparted thru that?
[01:41] <dr_willis> iananananan:  ddrescue to clone it to a file. then try to recover from that file
[01:41] <failmaster> Mace268, things got waay much better
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, fine unless you write to much to windows better to have a shared ntfs partition
[01:42] <c^^c^^> i'm just thrilled you can change interfaces in two seconds flat with linux
[01:42] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[01:42] <w30> jmson311, add your users to that group if you want them to muck with eachothers files
[01:42] <fOmey> iananananan: not really, although it does come with a few goodies ubuntu does not.. have a read of this: http://geexhq.com/recover-partition-table/
[01:42] <c^^c^^> crisis was adverted and another windows user has been converted gogo 2% marketshare
[01:43] <failmaster> iananananan, if you suspect there is a firmware/hardware related issue the best thing i know for this purpose in context of civil usage is mhdd tool which works under live dos environment, give it a try
[01:43] <xmetal> inever said i couldn't "understand it" ... i said i didn't like it
[01:43] <xmetal> :)
[01:43] <Mace268> i was just concerned about my data drives, they're separate from the system partition
[01:43] <bigbadben> I am trying to set up fail2ban, I want it to email me every time it bans a user and it is not, it only emails my gmail account when fail2ban starts or stops
[01:43] <iananananan> are there keyboard shortcuts for the workspace switcher in unity?
[01:43] <bigbadben> anyone have any idea
[01:43] <failmaster> Mace268, i remember when it was painful sometimes, but it's not like that anymore
[01:44] <Mace268> great to know thanks :D
[01:44] <failmaster> bigbadben, but your email will be full of garbage...
[01:44] <jmson311> i don't want them to mess with each others files i just want to be able to add stuff in there when creating the vas, then they just have access to their own
[01:45] <c^^c^^> the nail in the coffin for me would be a photoshop port but thats never happening
[01:45] <failmaster> true
[01:46] <saiarcot895> iananananan: Hold the super key (start menu key) to see a list of shortcuts
[01:46] <saiarcot895> iananananan: I think workspaces would be under the Windows section
[01:46] <saiarcot895> scratch that
[01:46] <bigbadben> failmaster, thats fine I can filter it into a folder I just want it set up correctly can anyone help
[01:48] <najc> if my apache conf is using User: ec2-user, Group: apache. What would i need to do to linux user "backup", so that HTTPD can read files from the /home/backup dir?
[01:49] <jrib> !permissions | najc
[01:49] <luis__> :p
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> bigbadben, There is a tiny #fail2ban channel if that helps.
[01:49] <jrib> najc: needs read permissions on the files and executable on all parent directories3.
[01:50] <bigbadben> wilee-nilee, yep I just asked them not even 2 seconds ago thanks for some help though
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[01:50] <najc> i set them 755
[01:51] <najc> chown 755 /home/backup/*
[01:51] <najc> even recursive
[01:51] <fOmey> !help
[01:51] <fOmey> !cmds
[01:51] <failmaster> najc, maybe put them in one shared group created for that purpose and start from this point?
[01:52] <najc> would this mean i change the group from apache to something else on apache.conf?
[01:52] <fOmey> !help
[01:52] <fOmey> !patience
[01:53] <fOmey> !kick fOmey
[01:53] <saiarcot895> the bot doesn't do *everything*
[01:53] <fOmey> i realize
[01:54] <ZIPY> !fixmygrubonencryptedhdd
[01:54] <fOmey> !eatmyshoes
[01:54] <Pici> !botabuse
[01:54] <fOmey> lol
[01:55] <nbros652> I'trying to use "import -window root
[01:56] <nbros652> I'm trying to use "import -window root ..." from image magic, but it doesn't work if firefox is in full screen mode. Any suggestions?
[01:56] <luis__> ola alguien habla español??
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !es | luis__
[01:58] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> nbros652, Is this an image save?
[01:58] <nbros652> wilee-nilee: yes
[01:58] <luis__> gracias!
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> nbros652, Not sure if it will work but try the prtsc key.
[01:59] <kdawg> dammit doesn't work at all if i use the xboot image with SARDU
[02:00] <kdawg> time to formate the usb again
[02:00] <nbros652> wilee-nilee: that would work, but I need to script the event, and I don't want the screen to "flash" because I'm taking screenshots on regular intervals of a computer running announcements.
[02:00] <kdawg> lucky only doing one at a time for now
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> nbros652, I figured it was more than a simple image, not sure otherwise myself.
[02:01] <nbros652> wilee-nilee: thanks anyway
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> nbros652, My thoughts are though that a bash with a key prompt might work, but that is a guess
[02:02] <nbros652> wilee-nilee: it makes the screen "flash" because it uses the gnome-screenshot program. I can't have the screen "flashing"
[02:02] <kdawg> here is a question for you ubuntu bros
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> nbros652, Makes sense.
[02:02] <kdawg> pros*
[02:03] <kdawg> do all ubuntu iso boot from ntfs partitions
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, No
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, I believe not anyway, an iso will boot from grub though.
[02:05] <kdawg> xboot says to make sure all iso are bootable via  ntfs partitions
[02:05] <kdawg> since its going on an ntfs usb stick
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, ntfs with a boot loader right, that's not windows.
[02:05] <kdawg> cause the ubuntu image i used before yet it was only one of them
[02:06] <kdawg> worked with sardu
[02:06] <kdawg> however the image i created with xboot doesn't seem to work at all
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, What boot loader does sardu use?
[02:06] <kdawg> Xboot use Grub4dos
[02:06] <kdawg> let me check SARDU
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, I figured as such, so what is the ultimate goal here?
[02:07] <kdawg> well ultimate goal is to have all the linux distrobutions in the own menu
[02:08] <kdawg> otherwise i'd have like 60 os's in one menu
[02:08] <kdawg> gonna try formating the drive again
[02:08] <kdawg> and using yumi see if that works
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, Just use the multisystem loader as actionparsnip gave you hours ago, your using an app that seems better might be in some situations but the multisystem loader is what I would use.
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, Only loads in linux thoufg.
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> though*
[02:09] <kdawg> not just linux
[02:10] <kdawg> i also will have antivirus recover tools and and everything on it sardu does most of it
[02:10] <petey> what exactly does | less do?
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, The multisystem runs in linux and boots windows iso's as well
[02:10] <petey> if i do a command like ping google.com | less
[02:10] <petey> im not following
[02:10] <petey> why is it better than just doing ping google.com
[02:10] <kdawg> wilee-nilee multisystem loader which one was that
[02:10] <DoverMo> petey, it says, test google.com and output it so you can read everything
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, From vista up a usb will boot an iso with a ntfs active and the iso exstracted to it anyway.
[02:11] <kdawg> I no of 3 programs i have yet to use yumi except for looking at the options
[02:11] <ttysteale> petey, that will redirect standard output into the command less, this is best used when reading large files such as logs, it will allow you to read output without having to scroll up a thousand lines, it isn't thate useful for a ping command
[02:11] <DoverMo> petey, you only need | less, when you have too much text on the screen at once
[02:11] <petey> oh okay
[02:11] <petey> that makes better sense
[02:11] <petey> thanks ttysteale, DoverMo
[02:11] <kdawg> so u saying if i just put the images on the usb dos will not what to boot
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, format the usb with grub is all it is a bit picky a fat32 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[02:12] <kdawg> no(
[02:12] <kdawg> no*
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, Doh not grub gparted.
[02:12] <kdawg> fat32
[02:12] <kdawg> has a file size limit
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, "so u saying if i just put the images on the usb dos will not what to boot" I do not understand this question.
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, I have it on a 32 gig usb, never had a file limit you have iso's more than 4 gigs
[02:14] <kdawg> well it sounded like initially stated that how you worded it. All i would need to do is put the iso in the root directory of the usb and it would work. however that makes no size
[02:14] <kdawg> well for instance the ubuntu8versions of it is just over 5 gigs
[02:14] <curatrix> If you just copy the iso's to a disk it wont boot....you have to use a prog to make a bootable drive with the iso's
[02:15] <nbros652> wilee-nilee: I found an answer to my problem... scrot works just fine.
[02:15] <kdawg> yeah there are 3 programs for windows i have found so far none seem to be perfect but the linux tool u mentioned by looking at the instructions seems a lot more complicated
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, ah not sure really you would have to see if that is a problem, the app is pretty modern it may have setups to deal with that and the maker is easily accessed via email.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> nbros652, Cool.
[02:16] <kdawg> gonna try yumi first cause i am diffinately more comfortable on windows
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, Yumi will be a problem I guarantee I have used it you will be doing a slow and I mean really slow contigent defraggs often, tha is a the bane of using a windows usb loader when multiloading.
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> at least that I found with yumi anyway.
[02:19] <xirre> Say you have a program that has limits by applying a parameter as -safe. While in safe, it shouldn't be able to run other programs of itself. However, there's a security flaw that allows it to use a different code to start up another instance of itself in -trusted mode which then gives it 100% privledges. Meaning it can access the root folder, delete it, and format all drives. How do you go about limiting this program to the folde
[02:19] <xirre> r its in and only giving it access to that part?
[02:20] <kdawg> yeah i am only trying one iso right now since its unlisted anyways
[02:20] <jmson311> I tried all of the different ways to change permissions, and using adducer vs user add, but it still doesn't instantiate all of the appropriate directories for a user. I just get examples.desktop and thats it. Only when i log out of admin and log into the user account does it actually create the subfolders for home/user
[02:21] <xirre> ?
[02:22] <SparkyFlary> when will the ubuntu phone come out?
[02:22] <jmson311> i am fine with leaving it as is, but the higher ups really want a fully automated proc that prevents any real user interaction. just click and there you go, VM is created with all apps installed and user accounts ready
[02:23] <lucia> Hi everybody
[02:23] <lucia> I'm new on linux
[02:23] <jmson311> congrats
[02:23] <jmson311> its pretty awesome
[02:23] <lucia> this is my first ubuntu instalation
[02:23] <DoverMo> lucia, hey hey
[02:24] <kdawg> urg this one doens't seem to want to work at all and automatically formats to fat32
[02:24] <prompt32> histo, does anyone knows if there is a way to run macchanger on my wlan0 interface, before wlan0 is up ?
[02:24] <kdawg> if you select format option cant it tell how big the size of the iso is
[02:25] <prompt32> i mean hi ....
[02:25] <lucia> I'm trying to configure my wireless card, but I'm not lucky
[02:25] <yello> IHello
[02:25] <yello> I'm trying to find a very light and clean verison of linux
[02:25] <lucia> some expert to gimme a hnad?
[02:25] <yello> I want something that will allow me performance wise to be alright I have used Windows 7 and Ubuntu
[02:25] <kdawg> this might work
[02:25] <kdawg> let me try that
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> lucia, Run in the terminal lspci and find the wifi info and post that to the channel.
[02:26] <SparkyFlary> lucia make sure it's compatible with your hardware too
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> yello, tiny linux, puppy linux come to mind
[02:26] <p0rk> I'm trying to have OpenVPN connect on boot but I'm having trouble. Once I restart the service, it seems to work just fine.
[02:26] <lucia> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[02:26] <xirre> I need help. Say you have a program that has limits by applying a parameter as -safe. While in safe, it shouldn't be able to run other programs of itself. However, there's a security flaw that allows it to use a different code to start up another instance of itself in -trusted mode which then gives it 100% privledges. Meaning it can access the root folder, delete it, and format all drives. How do you go about limiting this program
[02:26] <xirre>  to the folder its in and only giving it access to that part?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> lucia, There is an additional drivers section in the software center-edit-preferences run a update and look there for any drivers shown.
[02:27] <lucia> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) || when i put rfkill list all I get 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[02:27] <lucia> 	Soft blocked: yes
[02:27] <lucia> 	Hard blocked: yes
[02:27] <lucia> 1: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
[02:27] <lucia> 	Soft blocked: yes
[02:27] <lucia> 	Hard blocked: no
[02:27] <FloodBot1> lucia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <yello> HEy wilee will they allow me to use firefox and play videos such as youtube
[02:28] <DoverMo> wilee-nilee, lspci -k is more helpful
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> DoverMo, I have been here a long time, you can correct others please.
[02:29] <DoverMo> wilee-nilee, I wasn't trying to be imposing
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> lucia, here is a askubuntu thread set that may be helpful. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=3945ABG
[02:29] <prompt32> hi , does anyone knows if there is a way to run macchanger on my wlan0 interface, before wlan0 is up ?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> DoverMo, unless you want me correcting you often I can. ;)
[02:30] <MrLahey> Hi I am running Lubuntu 13.04 on a laptop connected to an external monitor. on the external monitor windows do not fully maximize and are stuck on the upper left hand corner. here are screen shots of what the screen looks like and what my arandar setup looks like  http://imgur.com/sWRqrsl,Stk6v12,wjD6lIS#1   http://imgur.com/sWRqrsl,Stk6v12,wjD6lIS#2
[02:30] <DoverMo> yello, you can search for puppy based distros. aside from puppy, archlinux would be another option, but requires lots of configuration
[02:30] <DoverMo> wilee-nilee, I haven't asked for such
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> DoverMo, neither did I
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> if I'm wrong I don't mind
[02:32]  * Speedfranca Hi!
[02:33] <kdawg> yumi seems to work however the images inside the image don't all disable
[02:33] <kdawg> so my initial thought was wrong
[02:34] <kdawg> time to delete the multi iso and try again
[02:34] <Speedfranca> I would like to know if there is another AV although Clamtk that I can install, and how?
 thanks a lot
[02:34] <Runemoro> releases.ubuntu.com is down...
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> !virus | Speedfranca
[02:34] <lucia> I'm gonna read and try to solve
[02:36] <suyase> I have a USB network card connected to a wifi network - I constantly get a pop-up asking which network I would like to connect the integrated card to - I set the integrated card state to down already but this didn't stop the pop-up - it's annoying as hell please help.
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Runemoro, Something is strange looks like a redirect possibly
[02:36] <Speedfranca> tnks Ubottu
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> lucia, No problem, good luck.
[02:37] <kdawg> ubottu i disagree with that some virus are programed to work in linux systems
[02:37] <kdawg> however its rar
[02:37] <kdawg> typo but i cant remember what i was typing
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, Not a virus, rootkit maybe.
[02:38] <Runemoro> wilee-nilee, the files seem to be hosted by cloudfront.net and it's down...
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> Runemoro, opens for me but I get a untrusted key is all, opens in IE10 as normal and downloads
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> untrusted in firefox but I have https everywhere in addons
[02:40] <Increase> Hello guys
[02:40] <Runemoro> wilee-nilee, It just got fixed...
[02:40] <Increase> I'm using the pendrive linux to make a live USB and the persistant file is not working.
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> Runemoro, Cool.
[02:40] <Increase> Does anyone know how to make it save?
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Increase, Did you click that option, and how big is the usb, persistent is very limiter as well.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> limited
[02:42] <Increase> wilee-niee Yes I pulled the bar all the way to the side.
[02:42] <Increase> 8 gigs
[02:42] <Runemoro> ilee-nilee, You told Speedfranca that Linux is virus free, but a virus could upload your home folder or delete it
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> Increase, you might look here, you can make a whole ext3 a persistent as big as you like by naming it casper-rw, and have the iso in another fast32   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:43] <Increase> What is an ext3?
[02:43] <Increase> Pretty much everything you just said didn't make much sense to me. Llol
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> Runemoro, This is an old argument, I'm not going to bother to be honest.
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> Increase, ext3 is a partition type used for linux.
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> Runemoro,And it was the bot that made that statement to them.
[02:46] <DoverMo> Runemoro, indeed it was a bot. And I assume it's more of a community choice to deny the existance of such things
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Increase, THat pendrive only makes a 4 gig persistent you would have to make another partition as I describes to have all of that space used.
[02:47] <prompt32> hi , does anyone knows if there is a way to run macchanger on my wlan0 interface, before wlan0 is up ?
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> described*
[02:47] <prompt32> does anyone knows if there is a way to run macchanger on my wlan0 interface, before wlan0 is up ?
[02:48] <Increase> wilee-niee Is it in the link you provided?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Increase, You will have to look thats the idea here, it is a wiki on using that app and other info.
[02:49]  * prompt32 NObody knows
[02:49]  * prompt32 ^ .... :)
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> Increase, I will be glad to help you but some you have to research is all.
[02:50] <xirre> I need help. Say you have a program that has limits by applying a parameter as -safe. While in safe, it shouldn't be able to run other programs of itself. However, there's a security flaw that allows it to use a different code to start up another instance of itself in -trusted mode which then gives it 100% privledges. Meaning it can access the root folder, delete it, and format all drives. How do you go about limiting this program
[02:50] <xirre>  to the folder its in and only giving it access to that part?
[02:50] <Increase> wilee-niee Alright, I'll read and get back to you
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Increase, Col it can be confusing, so I'm on your side there. ;)
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Cool*
[02:52] <pvl1> i have a pci ide adapter, im not sure if its working. what module would that be
[02:53] <chielement> My screen will not lock...can anyone help me figure out why?
[02:55] <Runemoro> chielement, Go to system settings, Brightness & Lock, and turn Lock on if it's off.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> chielement, Which release and desktop?
[02:56] <chielement> Runemoro, thanks, but it's on. I installed gnome-screensaver as well and it's still not working.
[02:56] <chielement> wilee-nilee: 12.04 on a Chromebook (samsung ARM)
[02:56] <pvl1> run the command from a terminal
[02:56] <pvl1> see what happens
[02:57] <funkster> is anyone familiar with cups/gutenprint in here. im having a 25-30 second delay when i issue an 'lp' command to print a image. any advise would be appreciated.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> chielement, chrome runs on a special kernel I believe but look in settings-screen lock I think should be where the screen brightness is gui.
[02:57] <MrLahey> Hi I am running Lubuntu 13.04 on a laptop connected to an external monitor. on the external monitor windows do not fully maximize and are stuck on the upper left hand corner. here are screen shots of what the screen looks like and what my arandar setup looks like  http://imgur.com/sWRqrsl,Stk6v12,wjD6lIS#1   http://imgur.com/sWRqrsl,Stk6v12,wjD6lIS#2
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> chielement,THe ubuntu install on a chrome laptop anyway
[02:59] <chielement> wilee-nilee, it works manually...it won't kick in if let my computer go idle. I think however that this will work for me.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> chielement, Cool.
[03:00] <goddard> sooo I have 32 gigs of ram
[03:00] <goddard> what should i do
[03:00] <chielement> has anyone had a problem with unity lens closing unexpectedly?
[03:01] <DoverMo> goddard, well you certainly dont need swap
[03:01] <Wulframn> lol
[03:01] <chielement> exact message is: "Sorry, the application 'unity-lens-video' has closed unexpectedly"
[03:01] <goddard> DoverMo:
[03:02] <Wulframn> Or does he need 32 gigs of swap? =P
[03:02] <DoverMo> D:
[03:02] <alex277> hola
[03:02] <Wulframn> Cache all the things!
[03:03] <alex277> hi
[03:03] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[03:03] <Wulframn> !hi | alex227
[03:03] <pvl1> how do i tell if im running 32 or 64bit
[03:03] <goddard> DoverMo: ya for sure
[03:03] <alex277> wulramn hi
[03:03] <goddard> DoverMo: unless for some odd reasons I wanna put my system to sleep?
[03:04] <Wulframn> pvl1 uname -m iirc
[03:04] <goddard> Wulframn: i was gonna try it
[03:04] <goddard> ramdisk
[03:04] <DoverMo> goddard, well according to this chart I found online, 8gb of swap is what's recommended in that range
[03:04] <pvl1> Wulframn: thanks, shoulda manpaged that. clearly -r wasnt the right flag
[03:05] <Wulframn> =P
[03:05] <chiques> Upgraded an old machine from 10.04 to 13.04 and now it runs sow SLOWWWW
[03:05] <alex277> [pvl1] in satar- equip -click rigth after properties
[03:05] <alex277> start*
[03:07] <DoverMo> chiques, so you went from the gnome-themed ubuntu desktop to unity?
[03:07] <DoverMo> chiques, unity is slow
[03:08] <chiques> DoverMo, Ridiculously slow
[03:09] <chiques> DoverMo, I have to reformat and switch back. This makes my machine unusable.
[03:09] <DoverMo> chiques, you could install all of the xfce4 stuff
[03:09] <DoverMo> chiques, and work from that
[03:09] <kdawg> think i might have to run a live cd on my comeputer
[03:09] <kdawg> not the other one
[03:09] <researcher123> Apllication open too slowly.Sometime dont open at all.  I really like Ubuntu, it's a bummer they  turned Unity into such a hog
[03:12] <Runemoro> Why does "ps -er" list only one process?
[03:12] <researcher123> Ubuntu 13.04.Recently ran autoclean,autoremove.But no improvement.PC responds too slowly.HELP?
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, This hardware is up for the OS, you have checked whatb is running, what apps?
[03:13] <DoverMo> chiques, indeed it does. But the best solution is to install a different DE or switch to a spin
[03:13] <SparkyFlary> when will the ubuntu phone come out?
[03:13] <xmetal> true
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> SparkyFlary, #ubuntu-touch is the pace to be
[03:13] <Azelphur> researcher123: neither of those commands will improve performance, you should be looking at system monitor and seeing what processes are using high amounts of CPU or RAM.
[03:13] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: ALl application open slowly
[03:13] <SparkyFlary> ok
[03:13] <Azelphur> SparkyFlary: if you've got a compatible device you can try it, I've ran it on my ne...aww.
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, I asked three questions
[03:14] <chiques> DoverMo, Thanks
[03:14] <caiyue> hello boys
[03:15] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 13.04.Browser, Office docs and Files open very slowly.
[03:16] <DoverMo> Runemoro, "ps re" was what you were looking for?
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, Have you checked what is running, do you have a lot open, install htop and run htop in the terminal to check usage.
[03:16] <pvl1> i installed a 32 bit system on a 64 bit processor. can i install 64 on top
[03:17] <Runemoro> DoverMo, No, all running processes
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, Is the computers hardware up for the challenge?
[03:17] <DoverMo> Runemoro, "ps -ax" should suffice
[03:17] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: what does it mean?Im quite new
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, Ubuntu has some minimal hardware requirements, be specific on what you do not understand. ;)
[03:18] <Xolani_Chijindum> Hello everyone, Xolani_Chijindumhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[03:19] <mdh> wut
[03:19] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: I was on 12.10 months ago
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, If english is a barrier there are channels with languages besides english if needed.
[03:19] <Runemoro> DoverMo, doesn't that list processes that aren't running too?
[03:19] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: on 12.10 my system worked well.It was working well on 13.04 until a fortnight ago
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, What is your native language?
[03:20] <pvl1> eh ill just keep 32
[03:20] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: Marathi
[03:20] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: english no problem for me
[03:21] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: but I am a civil engineer. Dont know much about Ubuntu terminology
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, Seems like it is we are not communicating, #ubuntu-in might help just saying.
[03:22] <researcher123> wilee-nilee: tell me how I can paste htop output for you to view
[03:22] <Runemoro> researcher123, Whois says you're from Romania, I know Romanian.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> researcher123, Yu have to say what is not understandable not just make comments, and some of this you will have to work through, I can;'t hold your hand, others may though, I think others will be better help. ;)
[03:23] <researcher123> Runemoro: Im from India
[03:23] <DoverMo> Runemoro, i'm not sure what to say. you just get whatever is listed in the manual "man ps"
[03:24] <kdawg> i may see u when i reboot getting ready to reboot into ubuntu on this computer via life cd
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, 64 bit is a fresh install.
[03:25]  * wilee-nilee is afk
[03:26] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: i just read there is a way, but its too much work and not enough benifet for what i wanted itfor
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Can I see that way?
[03:32] <sid0418> i want to install sublime text 2 in my os ubuntu 11 , please anybody help , I tried different ways from tar.gj and from terminal also nothing works
[03:32]  * wilee-nilee read elvis and jim morrison have a bar in Cancun, does not mean it's true
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, The usual first response here if you are aware that 11 anything is end of life, and do hyou have to use it.
[03:36] <sid0418> yeah , i must use it at any ccost
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, Why?
[03:37] <sid0418> wilee-nilee: i am a webdesigner
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, Well, not supported here technically, ks all, so you might check your priorities, does not mean no one will help though.
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> is*
[03:38] <sid0418> wilee-nilee : can i update my os
[03:38] <sid0418> then
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> !eol | sid0418 with a specific yes be backed up.
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> specific path*
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, That will take awhile is all, it goes from lts to lts are up one release at a time isall.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> or are*
[03:40] <sid0418> can i prefer eol release
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, If you start from one yes, the good thing is that 12.04 has 5 years support.
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, Sorry prefer eol release?
[03:42] <sid0418> can you tell me simple steps to upgrade my system
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, The bots message has that info.
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, Backit up and or clone it first I would say for safety is all.
[03:44] <sid0418> i am not aware of it much while i am reading  , can you help me simple steps from terminal or gui what can i do now to upgrade my  system with patience , please
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> sid0418, I am a bit hesitant to give you every command a mistake can be made leaving me feeling responsible, I am not fond of that. This is exactly what you need to read to do this and clone your setup first. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrade
[03:47] <sid0418> thanks for ur support  . xchat is more useful for me
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> I have never bricked another's OS from about 12,000 posts at the ubuntu foeums and to many to count here, I would not like breaking that trend. sid0418 ;)
[03:55] <tones>   that's a lot of posts, call guiness
[03:55] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> lol to much free time
[03:55] <failmaster> true -.-
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> that was while getting a bachelors totally unrelated
[03:58] <freze> any guides for a first time vps
[03:58] <freze> I mean I'm automatically root
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> freze, automatically root? in ubuntu?
[03:59] <freze> yeah
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> freze, Cool not sure myself was just curious.
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> freze, If you want to run the #ubuntu-server this is the channel.
[04:01] <freze> oh tahnks
[04:01] <freze> forgot
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:04] <caiyue> exit
[04:10] <droop> using magnet files with deluge. ive researched around in forums but cant download. what torrent client can i use on ubuntu 12.04 to download magnet files? thanks :)
[04:10] <reisio> droop: deluge
[04:11] <reisio> but they're not files, that's the whole point of them :)
[04:11] <uvala> hello, sorry for this non-ubuntu question, but I couldn't find where to ask; does anyone know why I may be receiving this message when I click on the webmail link of my mail provider: "Not Found The requested URL /apps/webmail/src/login.php was not found on this server." ?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> uvala, ##linux maybe if you are registered
[04:12] <uvala> first login page was there, and returned a  maintenance alert after login. then the login page was totally gone
[04:12] <goddard> is there a way to make apps stay in full screen mode when switching between desktops?
[04:13] <MrLahey>  Hi I am running Lubuntu 13.04 on a laptop connected to an external monitor. on the external monitor windows do not fully maximize and are stuck on the upper left hand corner. here are screen shots of what the screen looks like and what my arandar setup looks like  http://imgur.com/sWRqrsl,Stk6v12,wjD6lIS#1   http://imgur.com/sWRqrsl,Stk6v12,wjD6lIS#2
[04:13] <uvala> wilee-nilee, thank you, posted there, but I dont know if I should be registered
[04:13] <reisio> goddard: sounds like a Unity specific problem
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> uvala, I thought you had to be registered with freenode to post there is all.
[04:14] <uvala> wilee-nilee, I don't know, seems like I can post there just like I post here
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> goddard, How are you changing desktops, this within the desktop, or to another completely?
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> uvala, Groovy man. ;)
[04:16] <eph3meral> hi, so I have purchased and pieced together a rig originally intended for gaming though otherwise a fairly standard intel z77 rig (at least so I thought), asrock extreme4 mobo, gtx 680 - however I can't get a USB stick to boot correctly, seems to be a video related issue
[04:16] <eph3meral> I've installed 13.04 64 bit on a USB stick that I previously had 12.04 installed on
[04:16] <holstein> nomodeset | eph3meral
[04:16] <holstein> !nomodeset
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, Black screen blinking cirsor?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> cursor*
[04:16] <___anon___> is anybody having trouble installing ubuntu?
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, If so follow holstein's bot prompt.
[04:17] <___anon___> lol
[04:17] <holstein> ___anon___: depends on the hardware.. usually no troubles
[04:17] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee, hmm, sort of - it somewhat depends on if I select "USB: Multicard" or "UEFI: PNY FD 2.0", but both cases are close to the same, the screen goes black (or in the former case just shrinks into the top left corner as if the resolution has changed, and I get a bright pink vertical line on the left edge of my screen
[04:18] <eph3meral> but otherwise it could probably be described as black with a blinking cursor, yes
[04:18] <eph3meral> come to think of it, hitting keys generates control sequences like ^[[a
[04:18] <eph3meral> reading link now
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, You want uefi or is this a dual with W8 using gpt partitioning in general or the HW needs a uefi?
[04:19] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee, I do have windows 8 but I bought a fully separate physical HD on which to install ubuntu
[04:19] <eph3meral> it's on SATA 3.0 6gbps
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, Cool, and you understand what uefi is?
[04:20] <holstein> !uefi
[04:20] <goddard> wilee-nilee: i am using ctrl+alt+ arrow keys
[04:20] <eph3meral> roughly, think, it's the fancy new graphics version of "Ye Ol' BIOS" right?
[04:20] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[04:20] <goddard> this is when in full screen mode in terminal or something
[04:20] <goddard> wilee-nilee: not a huge deal, but I am unsure why my computer is doing something I didn't tell it to
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Ah so in the OS, not sure.
[04:21] <goddard> wilee-nilee: I figured as much oh well
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> I use the gnome shell
[04:21] <Heet> What's the easiest way to automatically mount a drive on startup?
[04:22] <goddard> wilee-nilee: i would gladly switch to gnome shell if they got the Unity top menu
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | Heet
[04:22] <goddard> every linux user should know about fstab
[04:22] <goddard> its pretty handy
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Actually the shell has a bunch of cool extensions I think many have not discovered this.
[04:22] <Heet> Well, boom, I am now a part of that mass
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> welcome to the fold. ;)
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> muhahaha
[04:23] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: I noticed one rather significant difference: when I choose "USB: Multicard" as the boot option I get a blue background text interface list with "Default" as the first option and several other install related options… when I choose "UEFI: PNY FD 2.0" as my boot option, I get the familiar grub/lilo boot loading screen but the options are only 4 the first one being "try without installing" and I forget the other 3
[04:23] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: I don't know if that illuminates anything important regarding which boot option I should be choosing but they both seem to suffer from the same issue ultimately
[04:24] <goddard> wilee-nilee: yeah I used gnome shell for awhile and the extensions rock.  Some one was workin on the gnome universal menu project but stopped
[04:24] <goddard> it worked in like ubuntu 11.xx
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, I have only done standard mbr use installs so not sure what is up, other than a nomodeset boot.
[04:24]  * keyzs http://youtu.be/x_qJxpA3_pc
[04:25] <Heet> I have no idea how to configure this thing
[04:25] <___anon___> guys, i installed xfonts-jmk, how can i use these fonts in terminal
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> keyzs, Please don't just post stuff
[04:26] <___anon___> guys, i installed xfonts-jmk, how can i use these fonts in terminal
[04:26] <___anon___> or not terminal, i meant konsole
[04:26] <___anon___> and in KDE
[04:26] <___anon___> ?
[04:27]  * ___anon___ shoots chat
[04:27] <___anon___> yup, its dead
[04:27] <Ubulost> Where do I find the channel topic?
[04:28] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: where does the nomodeset go? the default boot line looks like "ubnkern initrd=/ubninit file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.see boot=casper quiet splash --"
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> Ubulost, Ubuntu support is the topic, more info in the header.
[04:28]  * ___anon___ puts a shovel and the channels dead body in the back of his pickup, and hides the dead body.
[04:28] <reisio> Ubulost: /topic
[04:28] <___anon___> yup, its dead
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, boot=casper nomodeset quiet splash --"
[04:28] <___anon___> guys, i installed xfonts-jmk, how can i use these fonts in konsole?
[04:28] <dr_willis> or we have you on ignore now
[04:29]  * ___anon___ shoots chat
[04:29] <dr_willis> konsole has font settings in its menus last i looked
[04:29] <eph3meral> hey, sorry I logged in from a diff terminal, wilee-nilee would you post that ubuntu forum link again please?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | eph3meral
[04:29] <eph3meral> thanks
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, and added like this is all. boot=casper nomodeset quiet splash --"
[04:30] <Ubulost> does anyone know where to set the client password on ubuntu host for network log in?
[04:32] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: hmm, did that, the screen simply flashes once and I still get a blinking cursor
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, Not sure than, sorry. ;)
[04:32] <dr_willis> Ubulost:  clarify what you mean
[04:33] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: what does the -- at the end signify btw?
[04:34] <Ubulost> I have to ubuntu VMs on my linux box here and I'm trying to learn to network them.  I've gone thru about 15 tutorials.  I can see each from the others filemanagers but when I try and access it asks for a password, and none of the tutorials said anything about setting up a password and I'm stumped
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, Not sure exactly, but you can remove the quiet splash and see the text and maybe see the problem, you keep the kernel the same with nomodeset just adding it is all.
[04:35] <dr_willis> Ubulost:  you mean samba shares?
[04:35] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: yeah I get ata8.00: exception Emask …. frozen
[04:35] <eph3meral> ata8.00: failed command: IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE
[04:35] <eph3meral> I did install a new hard drive
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, All I could do is google that but at least it is info.
[04:36] <Ubulost> I believe so, but I've tried so many different ways I cant say.  Though I did set it up in smb.conf
[04:36] <dr_willis> Ubulost:  sudo smbpasswd username      for samba password s
[04:36] <eph3meral> hrm, yeah oh well
[04:36] <dr_willis> see the samba docs books
[04:36] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, Not sure but there is a #hardware channel if it is in the build maybe
[04:37] <dr_willis> Ubulost:  for ubuntu tu ubuntu or other linux'  its seaier to use  ssh or sftp or sshfs   not samba
[04:37] <Ubulost> dr_willis: been thru samba docs over and over.  I think I'm missing something simple.  I'll try that again now, though
[04:38] <dr_willis> user has no samba password by default.
[04:42] <carlzulauf> Anyone know what license the ubuntu icons are released under?
[04:42] <carlzulauf> If I wanted to use the icon at /usr/share/icons/Humanity/apps/64/utilities-terminal.svg in 13.04 for an open source chrome extension, is that alright?
[04:43] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: haha, I was just a bit of a doofus and I had my new drive plugged in the wrong SATA port
[04:43] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: works fine now :)
[04:44] <Ubulost> dr_willis:  is this correct?> you set user share in smb.conf, then password with smbpasswd?  are there other steps?
[04:45] <dr_willis> Ubulost: thats the core of it.
[04:45] <carlzulauf> guess I should have googled better or searched the docs better: "The Humanity Icon Theme is licensed under the GPL v2." - /usr/share/doc/humanity-icon-theme/copyright
[04:49] <freze> when I dpkg --get-selections  how come some packages are not listed in there like apt-cache etc..
[04:50] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: I have 8 gigs of ram, how much swap should I afford?
[04:50] <freze> is it because apt-cache is provided by apt
[04:50] <freze> by *the apt* package
[04:50] <eph3meral> I can't remember, I feel like I recall reading I shouldn't bother going above like 1-2G ?
[04:50] <reisio> eph3meral: 8GB could theoretically be useful
[04:50] <reisio> but no more
[04:50] <eph3meral> also, should swap go at the beginning or end?
[04:50] <eph3meral> reisio: ok, I mean it's a 500GB disk and I'm not likely to use more than 50G of that in reality :)
[04:50] <reisio> :)
[04:51] <eph3meral> smallest I could find at best buy :/
[04:51] <reisio> yeah I hear you
[04:51] <reisio> sometimes one needs a cheap drive, and not an expensive data center :p
[04:51] <carlzulauf> should have gotten like a 64gb SSD then
[04:51] <reisio> they're probably preparing for Windows 9, which will require 500GB to install
[04:51] <eph3meral> meh, I plan to do the SSD soon
[04:51] <carlzulauf> those are comporable in price to 500GB
[04:51] <eph3meral> and when I do I will go all out
[04:52] <reisio> let's see, I bought some 2TBs for $100 a piece
[04:52] <reisio> so 500GB _should be_ $25 :p but of course that's not how things work, heh
[04:52] <carlzulauf> nah, they are like ~$60 i think
[04:52] <reisio> demand, etc.
[04:52] <carlzulauf> yeah, and there is a floor on how cheap you can make a HDD
[04:53] <reisio> lot of manufacturers focus too much on demand and not enough on reliable profit margins
[04:53] <reisio> but we digress :p
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, I put the swap at the end as I have multiple OS's changing at times keeps the partitions in numerical order if you want to hibernate a slight more than ram is suggested.
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, If I actually ever really the swap O might put is closer to the front of the HD.
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> I*
[04:55] <neo1691> Hello Folks!
[04:56] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: good point
[04:56] <carlzulauf> eph3meral: ubuntu's auto option would make the swap 8GB and at the end of the disk
[04:56] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: does it matter of swap is a primary or a logical drive?
[04:56] <carlzulauf> I suspect wilee-nilee told them to
[04:57] <eph3meral> does it matter if*
[04:57] <carlzulauf> eph3meral: no
[04:57] <derrik> is sda3 = hd0,2 in grub?
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, Since I multiboot with W8 I have it in a primary, it has no boot partition, and all the linux in an extended.
[04:58] <reisio> derrik: nope
[04:58] <derrik> then what it is?
[04:58] <reisio> derrik: >=GRUB2 counts devices from 0 and partitions from 1
[04:58] <reisio> do not ask
[04:58] <reisio> me why
[04:59] <derrik> so its hd0,3?
[04:59] <reisio> right
[04:59] <reisio> neo1691: hi
[04:59] <derrik> thanks
[04:59] <reisio> and then there's swap _files_
[05:00] <reisio> sometimes it can be really handy to have a disposable few-gig partition though
[05:00] <reisio> you can use it for all sorts of things
[05:00] <eph3meral> well, screw it, I went with 10GB on my swap just cuz I know 8G is like more than 8000MB technically I thin, so in order to be safe in possible hibernation, screw it
[05:00] <reisio> dump in a rescue OS, copying & resizing
[05:00] <eph3meral> I won't miss it
[05:00] <reisio> eph3meral: heh
[05:01] <reisio> I'm pretty sure the hibernation will not explode if it's a few megs short :)
[05:01] <eph3meral> werd
[05:01] <reisio> but nor will your disk with a few extra gigs of swap :p
[05:01] <eph3meral> but JUST in case
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, Heh, live real. ;)
[05:01] <lahwran> test
[05:01] <reisio> lahwran: you pass
[05:02] <eph3meral> "My ram is full and I want to hibernate! why can't this free software hibernate when my ram is full! Ubuntu sucks!"
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> eph3meral, That a troll practice. ;)
[05:03] <eph3meral> yeah, gotta keep my teeth sharp ya know
[05:03] <dr_willis> vs  my ram is all used up with nothink loaded
[05:03] <eph3meral> I bought a mac because they are perfect, Apple is perfect!
[05:03] <reisio> :p
[05:04] <dr_willis> with a  ssd   hard drive and 10 sec boot times. i dont hibernate
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> same here
[05:04] <reisio> why do you even reboot? :p
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> just for the rush
[05:04] <reisio> heheheh
[05:04] <eph3meral> if only, if only, I could open all the same programs that were open before, with all the same windows on all of the same of my 15 desktops
[05:04] <eph3meral> then life would be good
[05:04] <eph3meral> and I wouldn't need hibernate
[05:04] <reisio> VNC
[05:05] <eph3meral> hmm, fair point
[05:05] <dr_willis> session managers.
[05:05] <eph3meral> dr_willis: that's about as big of a joke as compiz
[05:05] <dr_willis> Don't see them used much any moar
[05:05] <freze> what happens if the directory is set as read and execute and the file as read only  for the group?
[05:05] <eph3meral> nice idea though
[05:06] <freze> can the group execute the file?
[05:07] <baumy> I just setup msmtp with my university's mail server, and it's appearing to successfully execute (I'm returned to a shell with no error), but email isn't being sent. I have no idea how to debug this, help?
[05:07] <eph3meral> well holy nuck farts, I think it worked
[05:07] <eph3meral> now for the updates :/
[05:07] <eph3meral> and to get rid of unity (*shudder*)
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> "unity makes the world prettier" hippie quote
[05:09] <Mace268> Any ideas how I might tell why my install is stuck on configuring hardware? The skip button has no effect either.
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, This a dualboot using the slider?
[05:10] <eph3meral> is sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop the way to go for xfce?
[05:11] <Mace268> No fresh install on an ssd drive...
[05:11] <eph3meral> (I'm an XFCE guy… it's pretty much GNOME2 without as many bugs)
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, Did you tick the update box?
[05:11] <eph3meral> I can't remember, I had some issues wherein XFCE was installed, but none of the icons :/
[05:11] <Mace268> Yes
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, Stuck or just running long?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, What release?
[05:12] <Mace268> Well the system is responding still but the dropdown says the last activity was an ipv6 config timeout.
[05:13] <Mace268> 12.04.2
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, That would be a bit if update if you did not get the daily, my guess is that.
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> of*
[05:14] <Mace268> I had to start the install with nomodeset because the gpu was locking
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, This computer up for the task hardware wise?
[05:14] <Mace268> I checked my nic activity
[05:14] <Mace268> Yes for sure
[05:15] <Mace268> The drm was locking up on my gtx580
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, It's up to you on what to do really since it is an install. I suspect a long update load, depends on the net speed the other comments I would not know.
[05:16] <Mace268> Thanks I'll give it a while longer
[05:17] <Mace268> Although the iso downloaded in much less time than this
[05:18] <Mace268> But my net is spotty
[05:18] <eph3meral> ISO downloads on torrent are insanely fast… sooo nice
[05:19] <Mace268> Yuh for sure
[05:19] <reisio> peak torrent ftw
[05:19] <orwell> exit
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> throttled here gotta get a modem not from the provider
[05:21] <Mace268> Now it just ran a cron command, I guess it's moving along
[05:22] <Mace268> Why would it run cron-hourly during an install though?
[05:24] <neo1691> I am using ubuntu 13.04 and these day I get a lot of system errors. Can someone please suggest me how to debug such errors or get to the bottom of such errors
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> neo1691, You ever click the more info and look at what they are?
[05:25] <Sorath> Anyone know about creating a personal livestream with an Ubuntu server?
[05:26] <neo1691> wilee-nilee: Yes, they are different each times, sometimes its unity-scope-cities, or it is apport-resume
[05:27] <rotham> hey .. is there a channel for libre office?  I'm trying to figure out if its possible to convert 8:03 time in [HH]:MM format to a decimal.
[05:28] <azerty_> bonjour
[05:28] <azerty_> a bon merci
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> neo1691, not exactly sure, you would have to debug each individually if you think that is the fix, I just remove the popup setup.
[05:29] <orwell> azerty_: bonsoir
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> !fr | azerty_
[05:29] <neo1691> wilee-nilee: how do you remove the popup setup
[05:30] <RingingEars> HEllo
[05:30] <orwell> RingingEars: hi
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> neo1691, I just purge apport. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu
[05:31] <RingingEars> Is anyone here familiar with audio issues?
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> RingingEars, state the actual issue for help.
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> to the channel
[05:32] <dr_willis> ! Sound
[05:36] <RingingEars> Unfortunently none of it worked.  My laptop speakers are ringing with headphones in after being suspended.  The laptop had no changes and suspended before without issue.
[05:36] <RingingEars> I reinstalled because it happened before.
[05:38] <AcidRain2012> whats a good tool for encrypting/decrypting files?
[05:39] <berto-> how can i listen to all upstart events?
[05:39] <reisio> AcidRain2012: encfs
[05:40] <RingingEars> AcidRain2012: Depends, what do you want to encrypt?
[05:40] <AcidRain2012> RingingEars, pictures. doesnt need to be a complex encryption. im protecting from junkies. not hackers
[05:41] <RingingEars> Truecrypt can make a contained, like a folder, that you can put them in.
[05:41] <RingingEars> GnuPG could individually encrypt pictures
[05:41] <berto-> AcidRain2012: what are you trying to do?
[05:41] <RingingEars> * a container
[05:42] <AcidRain2012> berto-, stop junkies from stealing sensetive data and trading it for crack
[05:43] <reisio> junkies aren't that smart
[05:43] <reisio> they need the crack too immediately
[05:43] <reisio> $5's for a stolen laptop is crack in the hand
[05:43] <reisio> there are always more laptops, after all
[05:44] <AcidRain2012> reisio, :/ i just need file encryption. if i could encrypt an entire folder that would be great
[05:45] <reisio> AcidRain2012: encfs
[05:45] <igor_> hi
[05:45] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[05:45] <reisio> igor_: hiyo
[05:45] <igor_> hi reisio
[05:45] <igor_> where are you from?
[05:45] <reisio> hiyo
[05:45] <reisio> dark side of the moon, you?
[05:45] <neo1691> wilee-nilee: Thanks a lot, it helped.
[05:46] <igor_> :S
[05:46] <igor_> of my house
[05:46] <igor_> spanish?
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> neo1691, No problem.
[05:47] <neo1691> I am using compiz since ubuntu 12.04 days, and I feel its causing much of my errors in ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to completely uninstall compiz>?
[05:48] <Mace268> Trying again with 13.04.  XD
[05:48] <igor_> sudo apt-get purge compiz
[05:48] <eph3meral> ^
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> neo1691, unity is a plugin in compiz running ontop of gnome 3
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> igor_, Bad advice
[05:48] <igor_> -,8
[05:48] <igor_> :(
[05:48] <dr_willis> Just use a different desktop
[05:48] <neo1691> wilee-nilee: so that means I should unninstall it?
[05:49] <dr_willis> Just use a different desktop  neo1691
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> yep on the don't remove and try a new desktop neo1691
[05:49] <dr_willis> Don't uninstall it
[05:49] <AcidRain2012> how do i permanently delete files off an external hdd. they keep going into .trash-0
[05:49] <AcidRain2012> :/
[05:49] <AcidRain2012> im using nautilus
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, dconf-editor has a bypass thrash option
[05:50] <neo1691> dr_willis: I like unity? is compiz enabled by default in unity?
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> trash
[05:50] <dr_willis> Shift_delete key  I think also
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> that sound rigt
[05:50] <igor_> come to install Sytem opr
[05:50] <dr_willis> neo1691:  unity is a compilation plugin
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> right*
[05:50] <reisio> compiz*
[05:50] <eph3meral> ugh, unity is so bad, I deleted the ubuntu I just installed and downloaded xubuntu instead
[05:50] <dr_willis> Compiz
[05:50] <eph3meral> so worth it
[05:50] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, thx. your solution was easiest
[05:51] <igor_> use ubuntu lucid
[05:51] <dr_willis> eph3meral:  overkill
[05:51] <RingingEars> XFCE is nice for a lightweight
[05:51] <eph3meral> actually gnome3 is about as bad as unity
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> igor_, You are just posting garbage do we have to call the ops?
[05:52] <reisio> Xfce
[05:52] <eph3meral> RingingEars: actually XFCE isn't really just lightweight, it just works better, in so many ways
[05:52] <reisio> eph3meral: pity all those mint converts didn't realize that (re: gnome)
[05:52] <eph3meral> GNOME3 went the Apple "you use it like we say you use it" route, and I can't stand it
[05:52] <neo1691> I am trying to avoid a complete fresh install again, as I have just one / partition, any help?
[05:52] <eph3meral> yeh I worked with a mint user recently… haven't tried it myself
[05:52] <reisio> GNOME was already pretty Mac OS oriented, but abandoning all that code was drastic
[05:53] <reisio> neo1691: what's up?
[05:53] <eph3meral> I prefer server usually and package upgrades, and actually I really do like having the xubuntu install at the base - I think this is the first time I've ever actually done this fresh
[05:53] <eph3meral> I usually install xfce after the fact but the packages never seem to work out right in the end
[05:54] <eph3meral> neo1691: "I am trying to avoid a complete fresh install again" <- words of doom
[05:54] <igor_> what time is it?
[05:54] <eph3meral> lol, just, srsly, from experience - you don't use linux because it's easy or doesn't require time
[05:54] <reisio> igor_: time for you to be quiet? :p
[05:54] <reisio> mmm, and IME you don't reinstall
[05:54] <igor_> es q no los entiendo
[05:54] <igor_> :S
[05:54] <reisio> unless you change hardware architecture
[05:55] <igor_> arquitectura hardware
[05:55] <neo1691> eph3meral: Any way to backup my data? /home partition, or should I just install a different desktop like gnome?
[05:55] <RingingEars> I've had no issues with GNOME 3.6, but that's just me.  3.8 is buggy (for me)
[05:56] <eph3meral> neo1691: sure, buy a backup drive?
[05:56] <dr_willis> It's trivial to install other desktops  neo1691
[05:56] <igor_> bye friends
[05:56] <eph3meral> neo1691: buy a thumb drive? burn a CD? burn a DVD? upload it to the cloud?
[05:56] <igor_> DVD
[05:56] <igor_> more capacity
[05:56] <igor_> :P
[05:56] <igor_> the cloud?
[05:56] <igor_> not
[05:56] <igor_> spy in the cloud
[05:57] <neo1691> I will first install a different desktop, if it works, I will stick to else, else a fresh install seems inevitable
[05:57] <dr_willis> Yeah..  Right...
[05:57] <eph3meral> neo1691: I highly suggest starting to use separate system and "files" drives - ideally completely separate physical drives, but just separate partitions is fine as well
[05:57] <dr_willis> External use hd are very handy and affordable
[05:58] <neo1691> eph3meral: I learned that after installing ubuntu, the hard way :P
[05:58] <eph3meral> neo1691: that's what she said
[05:58] <igor_> :S
[05:58] <reisio> eph3meral: yeah, why do you suggest that?
[05:59] <igor_> music?
[05:59] <reisio> igor_: music
[05:59] <dr_willis> muzak?
[06:00] <igor_> hablen español
[06:00] <reisio> (just like)
[06:00] <igor_> hola
[06:00] <eph3meral> reisio: actually I don't even do that myself :P
[06:00] <dr_willis> !es
[06:00] <eph3meral> reisio: just cuz he seemed worried about it
[06:00] <reisio> eph3meral: not sure why you would, unless you could afford one SSD and not two
[06:00] <eph3meral> trying to use the same /home is like suicide
[06:00] <eph3meral> it's mostly settings
[06:00] <reisio> the same /home? For what
[06:00] <eph3meral> and they get all muckered up if you overwrite
[06:00] <eph3meral> nm
[06:01] <freze> anyonegot sshd running
[06:03] <reisio> freze: yup
[06:04] <freze> reisio do you know why there are more than 2 processes runnign of sshd
[06:04] <freze> is one ip4 the other ipv6 and other ...
[06:08] <RingingEars> Maybe you have a point.  This ringing did not happen before I switched to GNOME
[06:09] <DevotedBoyfriend> Hello, My girlfriend recently purchased a desktop computer with Ubuntu operating system and she is trying to access the internet wirelessly, but
[06:09] <DevotedBoyfriend> she cannot, ( she believes she needs to download certain drivers )
[06:09] <kari> No i have nvidia-96 drivers installed and i can go to "nvidia-settings", but still my flash isn't working. I get this "###!!! [Parent][RPCChannel] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv" error in console
[06:10] <kari> using firefox
[06:10] <kari> 12.04 lts
[06:11] <eph3meral> wilee-nilee: what is the advisable route for installing flash?
[06:11] <kenneth__> DevotedBoyfriend what is the laptop model? and how do you say that it can't connect to internet?
[06:11] <kari> eph3meral,  it should be sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:12] <eph3meral> I have gone about this in myriad different ways, I know there are at least like 2 different types of packages in the repos (usually) and also the option of just going to adobe.com (sometimes)
[06:12] <eph3meral> kari: k
[06:12] <eph3meral> I'm on 13.04 I guess I'll give it a shot
[06:14] <eph3meral> kari: what about for MP3? for whatever reason neither install checkbox works for me during install
[06:14] <eph3meral> so I have to download updates and non-free after
[06:14] <bh> per community/SoundTroubleshooting: I can play sound as root, but not as myself and I'm in the `audio` group. What else could I try?
[06:18] <this_love> #ubuntu-ge
[06:22] <theadmin> bh: Remove yourself from this group. It's not intended for users to be in.
[06:23] <kari> eph3meral,  what mp3?
[06:24] <bh> theadmin: hrm, that's at odds with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Sound_Output_Troubleshooting
[06:24] <kari> eph3meral,  you mean you dont have sound in your flash? or?
[06:24] <theadmin> bh: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup
[06:28] <santhosh> hai what type of problems get in ltsp cluster in ubuntu
[06:29] <eph3meral> kari: flash has sound just fine actually
[06:29] <eph3meral> just tested it on youtube
[06:34] <santhosh> hai what type of problems get in ltsp cluster in ubuntu
[06:36] <kdawg> Any way to speed up YUMI
[06:37] <kdawg> I no for a fack my usb drive and all my computer componets can go faster then 300KB/s on 7zip iso extraction
[06:37] <kdawg> fact*
[06:39] <kdawg> butting ubuntu to usb cause i was having mint issues with my cdrom i accidentally burned mint instead of ubuntu lol was tired lol so when i got out of bed from my nap it was messed. so i figure i just put a few of the os's on a different usbthumbdrive and boot from that it should be faster then blueray drive
[06:40] <kdawg> but the extraction is taking for ever like i was warned
[06:40] <kdawg> lol
[06:40] <kdawg> going to try this with ubuntu live cd http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[06:40] <kdawg> hopefully its not a huge headache
[06:45] <z8z> are there full set of dvd iso of the whole ubuntu packages repos like Debian has?
[06:46] <kdawg> z8z what you mean?
[06:46] <kdawg> like multiple version of the same os on one dvd?
[06:46] <z8z> ubuntu has at most the dvd installation which contains most popular packages
[06:47] <z8z> Debian has 10 DVD which contains all the packages of any standard repos
[06:47] <kdawg> you looking at deploring these were there is no network connection?
[06:48] <z8z> yep
[06:48] <z8z> but i need to make sure i have everything with me
[06:48] <z8z> any possible package
[06:49] <kdawg> oic
[06:49] <kdawg> wow i think that extremely hard to do
[06:49] <kdawg> but someone in here might no a better answer
[06:49] <kdawg> but if you can point me in the right direction for this debian copy
[06:50] <kdawg> i don't see it on debian.org
[06:50] <iceroot_> z8z: you could sync the repo and create a local repo
[06:50] <iceroot_> z8z: apt-mirror
[06:50] <Augurnz> Is there a way to process a text lof file with the "sed" command if the text to replace with contains an "&" ampersand symbol?
[06:50] <Augurnz> log^
[06:50] <kari> more info! now when i actually installed flash straight from clicking the link (middle of black flash screen) , in the middle of installing i get flash video to work, but when the install is complete. Video will  vanish. Not so good way to watch videos
[06:50] <iceroot_> Augurnz: what should be the problem there? dont understand the question
[06:51] <z8z> yeah i know that. I just wanted to know if dvd iso exist
[06:51] <iceroot_> z8z: not will all packages
[06:51] <Augurnz> iceroot: the ampersand is reserved for something in sed
[06:51] <iceroot_> Augurnz: escape it
[06:51] <iceroot_> Augurnz: see also #sed
[06:51] <Augurnz> thanks iceroot
[06:52] <z8z> iceroot_: sad :(
[06:52] <iceroot_> Augurnz: i guess it would be s/he\&llo/hello/
[06:52] <iceroot_> z8z: normally there is no need
[06:52] <iceroot_> z8z: and you can use apt-mirror
[06:52] <iceroot_> z8z: the dvd will contain old packages after some days and then you have security issues and so on
[06:52] <Augurnz> iceroot: yeah, I should have thought of that, been trying for a while now
[06:52] <dr_willis> apt-cacher-ng  is a handy tool also z8z
[06:53] <z8z> iceroot_: so with apt-mirror i can create a folder full with packages and carry around right?
[06:53] <iceroot_> z8z: yes
[06:53] <iceroot_> z8z: it will create a local repository
[06:54] <kdawg> looks like the debian package your were selecting if you buy the cd from on of the venders
[06:54] <iceroot_> z8z: you can add it then in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:54] <z8z> iceroot_: cool...so i'd better try that
[06:55] <iceroot_> z8z: but it may be something like 50GB
[06:55] <z8z> iceroot_: yeah i'm expecting something like that :D
[06:56] <z8z> iceroot_: sorry to annoy you but i have last question that i always asked myself... is there a way to download all the sources of every package at the same time?
[06:57] <dr_willis>  there are source repos
[06:57] <iceroot_> z8z: you mean the source packages?
[06:58] <z8z> iceroot_: yeah ... how those works?
[06:58] <iceroot_> z8z: i guess "sudo apt-get source *"
[06:58] <iceroot_> z8z: it will not work with normal packages because of conflicts
[06:58] <iceroot_> z8z: but with sources packages it should work
[06:58] <iceroot_> z8z: maybe bash will not execute it because of "too many arguments"
[06:58] <z8z> iceroot_: lol
[06:59] <z8z> iceroot_: ok so i'll give a try to that too thanks
[06:59] <iceroot_> z8z: but you really mean source package? it is something different then a *.deb package
[06:59] <z8z> iceroot_: yeah i mean that
[07:06] <goddard> anyone know if crossfire works with 7950s
[07:17] <MeanKitty> Hi guys. I use Cryptkeeper to encrypt files. Where can I modify the "strength" of the encryption?
[07:18] <jost> I've got a fakeRaid running on my machine, using dmraid. There are two devices listed in /dev for each partition on that RAID: /dev/dm-x and /dev/mapper/nvidia_asdadadax. The latter is a symlink to the first one. The latter is used in /etc/fstab. Is it save to change the fstab to use the /dev/dm-x device?
[07:19] <Ultimate4> Hello there. I am currently on ubuntu 11.10, and i have downloaded ubuntu 12.04 LTS from another source due to my erratic network connection. Can i somehow upgrade my current version to latest one using ISO?
[07:20] <Ultimate4> I can't boot using live media since my CD Rom is broken and my pc don't support USB booting.
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[07:23] <Xirre_> I was wondering, if I have a program and have 5 of them, then write the PID of them all in a .txt file, how do I read the text file and also check every few seconds if another process with their name has started and also how do I end it(not kill) via a shell script?
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> Ultimate4, You have a grub boot on the computer perchance?
[07:25] <Xirre_> Basically I only want the initial 5 up. The ones whose PIDs were in the .txt file.
[07:25] <iceroot_> Xirre_: have a look at #bash
[07:25] <Ultimate4> wilee-nilee: yes
[07:25] <dr_willis>    bash can read from files Xirre_   then send a dignal
[07:25] <snus> Xirre_, sounds like you should learn some coding/scripting
[07:25] <dr_willis> signal
[07:26] <snus> You could make a script/program that automates that pretty easily in almost any language really
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> Ultimate4, Two easy options, booting the iso from grub for an install or a eol upgrade using a specific path. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Ultimate4 look closely at upgrade link
[07:28] <rhumbot> hi all, i installed ubuntu 12.04 on my asus laptup from an usb stick. when trying to start the laptop i can choose between ubuntu and ubuntu recovery. after choosing a version, nothing happens. the laptop refuses to start unless the usb stick is plugged in. is there any configuration i need to change?
[07:28] <ken-the-whiz> rhumbot, try reinstall
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | rhumbot take a look gere
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> here*
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> rhumbot, If you decide to reinstall check the ISO's/cd/usb's md5sum first.
[07:29] <sal_> Hello
[07:29] <sal_> Does Ubuntu support rollbacks to undo a system upgrade?
[07:30] <rhumbot> i did reinstall before. i think it might be connected to the installation of bumblebee though.
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> sal_, Not really
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> rhumbot, try the nomodeset boot option and see if you get to the desktop.
[07:35] <Gold267> Hello
[07:35] <Gold267> help!
[07:36] <Gold267> help
[07:36] <Gold267> is there any way to boot ubuntu from software raid partition??????
[07:36] <Corey> Yes.
[07:37] <Gold267> I'm trying to do it and it is just doesn't boot after ubuntu installation
[07:37] <Gold267> Grub rescue, that's what I get
[07:38] <Gold267> Started installer in a rescue mode, and trying to set /dev/md127 as a root file system
[07:38] <Gold267> it says "Error occurred while mounting the device"
[07:39] <Gold267> anybody has any ideas?
[07:39] <Gold267> wthell...
[07:41] <Gold267> if I mount separate partition as a /boot - does this mean that it is gonna contain all the required files needed to boot ubuntu?
[07:41] <Gold267> during the insallation
[07:41] <gordonjcp> Gold267: no
[07:41] <gordonjcp> Gold267: well, *kind of*
[07:41] <Gold267> what is that for
[07:42] <gordonjcp> Gold267: it has the kernels and initial ramdisk, sufficient to get the OS started to the point where you can begin to fiddle about with disks, RAID arrays, networking and so on
[07:42] <Gold267> I'm thinking of mapping /boot to the separate partition that is not on raid
[07:42] <Gold267> what do you think is it gonna work?
[07:45] <Gold267> so can I map /boot and / to separate partitions on a hard drive?
[07:45] <gordonjcp> Gold267: yes, although you don't need to
[07:45] <Semor>  Package linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic-dbgsym version 3.5.0-23.35 does not match version of currently running kernel: 3.5.0-23.35~precise1
[07:45] <gordonjcp> if / is on raid, it might be a good idea
[07:45] <Gold267> any thoughts?
[07:45] <reisio> Gold267: about?
[07:46] <Gold267> yes, I'm trying to use / on software ubuntu raid
[07:46] <reisio> why?
[07:46] <Gold267> to make it faster
[07:46] <Gold267> raid 0
[07:48] <Gold267> did anybody use UEFI partitions for newer motherboards?
[07:48] <Gold267> curious how does it work
[07:49] <reisio> after jumping through hoops
[07:49] <auronandace> !uefi | Gold267
[07:50] <reisio> kind of like how New Coke was meant as a replacement for Coca-Cola Classic
[07:50] <Gold267> thank you, ubottu, I saw this article. I was wondering if anybody actually use it?
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Jump, higher, higher!! ;)
[07:51] <reisio> why would there be an article otherwise
[07:51] <dasDinghy> hi. can anybody help me with a question about /cow?
[07:51] <reisio> dasDinghy: no, but some people probably can
[07:51] <Gold267> reisio, I'm curious if it works on practice?
[07:52] <reisio> Gold267: what, Ubuntu with UEFI?
[07:52] <Gold267> yes
[07:52] <reisio> it needn't not work
[07:52] <dasDinghy> I booted a live usb stick and want to use the system for some work within infering the original system on that server -- there is a /cow that is mounted to /.  /cow is 126GB, is that a ramdisk? oder is is using the hdd? I cannot find any information what is behind /cow.
[07:52] <Semor> how to install systemtap on ubuntu precise1 kernel ?
[07:52] <prakash_> I just win8 to ubuntu, how can i install vlc in ubuntu.
[07:53] <silverlion> test
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> prakash_, sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:53] <silverlion> aah good morning
[07:53] <reisio> Semor: it's in the 'universe' repository: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[07:53] <reisio> erm
[07:53] <reisio> prakash_: ^
[07:53] <silverlion> I need help regarding update thunderbird it says "installation needs sources that can not be trusted"
[07:54] <reisio> Semor: actually you too :p
[07:54] <prakash_> wilee-nilee: thanks :)
[07:55] <Gold267> after reparing the system it still unable to boot :(
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, You sure it is thunderbird and not a ppa you have added, uh, maybe the thunderbird one.
[07:55] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: nope i installed it via the software centre
[07:55] <silverlion> not via an ppa
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> prakash_, no problem.
[07:55] <Mace268> how do I tell which device /dev/dm-3 is using?
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, Can you run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all the text.
[07:56] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: will do. gimme a sec pls
[07:59] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5961775/ << there you go. pls note that thunderbird is currently not installed on this machine. i wanted it to install via the software centre
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, What is the OS?
[08:00] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: its Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[08:00] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: or 12.04.1 to be more currectly
[08:00] <Semor> reisio:?
[08:00] <reisio> Semor: ?
[08:01] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, Thunderbrd is installed on a install with a desktop.
[08:01] <Semor> what is precise1 kernel?
[08:01] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: pardon me?
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, Thunderbird in on a stock install of ubuntu that has a desktop, not a server though, wht is it not there?
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> why*
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, Unless you removed thunderbird it is already there
[08:03] <silverlion> w
[08:03] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: checked in software centre. nope its not
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, search in the dash
[08:04] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: no results
[08:04] <silverlion> if thunderbird would have been there everything would be fine
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, That makes no sense can you elaborate on this more.
[08:05] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: ok
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, Run sudo apt-get install thunderbird and pastebin it if there is an error
[08:06] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: will do
[08:06] <haze__> how can i encrypt twice using openssl? i have tried: echo "test" | openssl aes-256-cbc -salt | openssl aes-256-cbc -salt but the second openssl doesn't seem to get called
[08:07] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: installation process pending
[08:07] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, You have the software center open?
[08:08] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: that was the mistake. just closed it .. installation proceeding
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, Cool, that is strange it should of been there.
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> I wonder what else is missing
[08:08] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: i know that this sounds strange. but if it would have been "normal" i could have handled it myself
[08:09] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: feel free to ask what you want to know. I've got time till 10 AM UTC
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> silverlion, I'm fine but thanks. ;)
[08:10] <bobz_zg> hi, anyone can help please. I have trouble with permissions on files i upload over FTP, i'm in group www-data, but when I upload filss over FTP they have have permissions 600, instead of 644 or 755. any advice?
[08:11] <silverlion> wilee-nilee: problem 1 solved ^^ thunderbird is back and updated
[08:11] <silverlion> now i'll have to figure out how to get the german language-pack installed ...
[08:13] <FishForYou> hi@ll,.... topic:LinuxServer --- is it the best choice to have an own useraccount for for every service that the server provides(10 accounts for 10services)?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> FishForYou: if an account has the access that a server need, you can run it as the same user
[08:15] <aleksey> всем привет
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> FishForYou: you need to analyse access which the service needs (and does not need) as to if it needs its own account, or will need to run as its own. If it can run as another account efectively then you wil reduce effort
[08:15] <aleksey> !ru
[08:15] <kenneth__> FishForYou that would depend on what service you would like to run
[08:17] <Gold267> jeez, I've pointed /boot into the separate partition, installation finished successfully, and I'm still can not boot :(
[08:17] <Gold267> ubuntu suck
[08:17] <mJayk> k
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Gold267: and?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Gold267: if you say stuff like that you reduce probability of support
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Gold267: try being constructive and without a lousy attitude and you will appear more approachable
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Gold267: what do you see when you try to boot the OS?
[08:18] <Gold267> will try to boot from live cd and see with gparted what's going on
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Gold267: have you tried without Plymouth showing so you can see boot messages?
[08:19] <Gold267> Grub recovery>
[08:19] <FishForYou> but it's the usually method and just a sandbox would not secure/effectiv as an own acc, right?
[08:19] <DoverMo> Gold267, could be, /boot isn't bootable, or your grub is misconfigured to the wrong hard drive. I don't use a /boot on ubuntu anyway cuz it's not required for the default config
[08:20] <Gold267> I was trying not to use /boot but I'm trying to make it work with *linux* software raid 0
[08:20] <Gold267> and it is still not working :(
[08:20] <Gold267> sorry guys I'm just tired
[08:21] <DoverMo> Gold267, try doing root (hdx,x) to see which partition the boot is on
[08:21] <DoverMo> Gold267, within grub
[08:22] <amireldor> As LoCo team, can we print and sell Ubuntu CD? Of course without changing and branding or name or anything, I just don't feel like searching for the relevant info page on Ubuntu/Canonical's website
[08:22] <Gold267> interesting, thnak you DoveMo, I'll give it a try
[08:23] <gregor3005> hi, i have installed xubuntu and configured the network card with the gui so it should start automatically but it doesn't. "sudo dhcpclient eth0" worked
[08:24] <Wezired> wtf
[08:24] <Wezired> ola bruda
[08:24] <DoverMo> dios mio
[08:24] <Wezired> DoverMo bro ola
[08:24] <DJones> amireldor: Probably better asking that in #ubuntu-locoteams They will probably have a better idea
[08:25] <gregor3005> i set in the interfaces file the value from manually to dhcp, hope this helps
[08:25] <gregor3005> hm, wired. why can i click restart in xfce, only shutdown? there are no restart button
[08:26] <reisio> gregor3005: can't?
[08:26] <gregor3005> reisio: lol. right click helped and i added the restart button :-)
[08:26] <reisio> k, gj
[08:26] <mJayk> gz :)
[08:27] <gregor3005> i'm new in xfce. normally i use gnome but on the old machine i have to switch (3ghz pentium 4)
[08:27] <DoverMo> gregor3005, p4 aw yeah!
[08:27] <reisio> 3GHz is enough for anything
[08:28] <ath1> is it possible to install ubuntu with pxe boot?
[08:28] <reisio> yes of course
[08:28] <k1l> ath1: yes
[08:28] <DoverMo> gregor3005, restart gets put in the 'log out' dialog by default
[08:28] <ath1> do you guys know a good walkthrough?
[08:29] <DoverMo> gregor3005, it's kinda funny. In lxde all the commands are in the log out screen so you dont have any seperation
[08:29] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[08:30] <gregor3005> DoverMo: now its time to test youtube on that old workstation
[08:30] <ath1> thx
[08:31] <xeonix> Hello penguins!!!
[08:31] <DoverMo> xeonix, i am a penguin
[08:31] <reisio> hello penguin
[08:32] <skippy_> Can someone tell me what the # and $ character mean in Linux
[08:32] <skippy_> Can someone tell me what the # and $ character mean
[08:32] <reisio> skippy_: they are frequently used to signify running a command as root (#) and as non-root ($)
[08:33] <skippy_> Wat u mean
[08:33] <reisio> skippy_: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-tip-prompt/
[08:33] <xeonix> I am facing a weird issue, 12.04, when ever i connect my earphones to my lap (Acer), the sound plays on both earnphones and the lap-speakers, i had to remove the speacker sound to null with alsamixer command.
[08:33] <somsip> skippy_: context would be helpful
[08:33] <reisio> skippy_: I mean if you see '# foo' it means run the command 'foo' as root
[08:33] <reisio> skippy_: and if you see '$ foo' it means you needn't necessarily be root
[08:33] <skippy_> What does root mean
[08:33] <xeonix> Hey, DoverMo and reisio  :]
[08:34] <Xirre_> http://superuser.com/questions/247127/what-is-and-in-linux?
[08:34] <Kuwait> general qustion , if i have nvidia card that support 3d and monitor that support 3d , is that not enough ?
[08:34] <gregor3005> how can i fully disable the update notifications? this will be a workstation for a friend who has a limited download amount per month and so he didn't get unintended over his limit. i will update the workstation from time to time with my mobile internet connection
[08:34] <reisio> skippy_: kind of like admin or superuser
[08:34] <DoverMo> skippy_, it's the grass roots man. you gotta start from the bottom
[08:34] <reisio> ...
[08:34] <DoverMo> ;-;
[08:34] <skippy_> Ol
[08:34] <skippy_> Ok
[08:35] <skippy_> What does grep ^d mean
[08:35] <Twenty-three> hi, i think a recent kernel update was incompatible with my graphics card or something, someone Dr_willis suggested trying to create a new user and testing whether the problem persisted, i tried that and the problem persisted, i am not sure how to restore unity
[08:35] <reisio> skippy_: it means see if the letter 'd' is the first character of any lines grep is fed
[08:36] <llutz> skippy_: homeworks time?
[08:36] <reisio> skippy_: ^ means the beginning, $ the end, in that context
[08:36] <reisio> more at #regex
[08:36] <skippy_> Oh
[08:36] <xeonix> I want to switch to headphones whenever I connect my headphone.
[08:36] <reisio> xeonix: laptop?
[08:37] <xeonix> Yep.
[08:37] <skippy_> What about nl?
[08:37] <reisio> xeonix: lsmod | grep -i hda
[08:39] <xeonix> reisio, http://pastebin.com/J9W05Fka
[08:39] <reisio> xeonix: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto specifically the stuff about specifying a model
[08:39] <freze> if i use adduser  does that new user get root privalges by default?
[08:40] <llutz> freze: no
[08:40] <manowar3> DJones, oh! forgot about that channel! thnaks
[08:41] <freze> llutz: strange because I added the user and I can type: sudo apt-....    just fine with the new user
[08:41] <christos_> he
[08:41] <freze> I checked visudo and all that is in there is :# User privilege specification    root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[08:41] <christos_> y
[08:41] <llutz> freze: "id <username>" does it show him as member of groups sudo/admin?
[08:42] <freze> uid = gid=groups 1000
[08:42] <skippy_> Can someone tell me what this line means
[08:42] <skippy_> grep –v ‘^#’ login.defs | grep –v ‘^$’ | nl
[08:42] <skippy_> grep –v ‘^#’ login.defs | grep –v ‘^$’ | no
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[08:43] <xeonix> reisio, thanks, but, I am not having any issue with the sound. I just want to switch the sound to headphones, whenever I connect the headphones to my laptop. Not both speaker and headphones.
[08:44] <christos_> anyone know about programming>?
[08:44] <reisio> skippy_: it means output the contents of the file login.defs without comments (they tend to start with # chars)
[08:44] <llutz> freze: uid=1000 usually is the primary user you created at installation time, which in fact is sudo-user
[08:44] <mJayk> christos_: wrong channel
[08:44] <kdawg> for some on reason i can boot to ubuntu live cd, get some [56123.12245][drm] nousie errer says something to do with updating channel or soemthing
[08:44] <reisio> skippy_: and then remove lines that are empty
[08:44] <reisio> skippy_: and then number what's left
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> christos_: try ##programming
[08:45] <reisio> skippy_: although it looks like whatever you copied it from mangled some of the chars
[08:45] <christos_> where is this?
[08:45] <mJayk> christos_: type /join #programming
[08:45] <christos_> thanks guys
[08:47] <anonee> hello ubuntu, I've recently made the bluetooth visible and used the DUN profile a couple of times with the phone, and each time I selected the PAN/DUN profile it was adding an instance of my phone's name to the wireless menu for connecting to the internet through the phone's connection (but this is exactly the opposite of what I selected), i tried to get help regarding this issue to no avail, and now I suddenly have the bluetooth icon disappeared, and when I
[08:47] <anonee> go to bluetooth settings it shows I have no bluetooth devices... I don't know what's my bluetooth device it's a dongle on a desktop... any help is highly appreciated.
[08:47] <skippy_> What you mean number whats left?
[08:48] <mika__> I did dual boot with windows XP and ubuntu, but now windows doesn't start anymore. I mean that it always boots to selections screen where is "last known good setup...". Any choice i choose, it will reboot again and again and again...
[08:49] <anonee> mika__ this is a windows issue
[08:49] <xeonix> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=13e88691e0cf3766aecd6419f83fe56e94891b5b
[08:50] <anonee> however, you can try reinstalling grub.
[08:50] <kdawg> http://askubuntu.com/questions/203333/12-10-unable-to-install-or-even-run-from-live-cd-with-nvidia-gtx-580 this might be my problem
[08:50] <kdawg> lol good old google took 20 minutes but whatever
[08:52] <freze> thanks llutz never new about groups and all that I must look into it. Tough it probably is irrelevant to me since I''m the only user
[08:53] <freze> BTW for symbolic links under bash  if I see something like this:   default  -> /hello/default. Does the original file live in /hello/default ?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: and what is teh sound issue?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> freze: yes
[08:54] <skippy_> So does grep ^d mean list all the lines where the first character of the like is d?
[08:54] <reisio> freze: file default; file /hello/default
[08:55] <skippy_> Line*
[08:55] <reisio> skippy_: yup
[08:55] <reisio> think I said that
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[08:56] <xeonix> ActionParsnip, the is no sound issue, i want the sound should shift to only headphones when ever I connect headphones, but when even if I connect headphones, the sound appers to be on both headphones and laptop speakers, I had to mannually do a alsamixer command and remove speaker sound to 0
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: reboot to test
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: source: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/918254
[08:57] <skippy_> And grep ^$ means list all lines where the first character is $?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: if that fails, try changing the line in the alsa-base.conf file to: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1
[08:57] <Shadow}}> Are there any free VPN apts?
[08:57] <kdawg> peace booting back to live cd see if i can get it to work with nomodeset
[08:57] <llutz> skippy_: no, grep ^$ is "all lines starting with newline (aka empty lines)
[08:58] <skippy_> What about grep^#
[08:58] <llutz> skippy_: man grep
[08:58] <skippy_> Huh?
[08:59] <llutz> skippy_: read the man-page
[08:59] <skippy_> Where?
[08:59] <llutz> skippy_: type "man grep" into a terminal and read
[08:59] <xeonix> ActionParsnip, what does fix=1 do?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: it can help when headphones dont cut out the speakers
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: you may need to have BOTH options set
[09:00] <xeonix> Both?
[09:01] <ChrisRiley> Hello Chaps
[09:01] <reisio> 'lo ole chum
[09:02] <mJayk> hihi
[09:02] <ChrisRiley> Is this a place I can ask a question regarding hdparm and the different types of hardware i'm testing it on?
[09:02] <ChrisRiley> Tearing my hair out
[09:03] <skippy_> llutz all I wanna know is what does grep ^# mean
[09:03] <skippy_> Does it mean show the lines that start with # aka comments?
[09:03] <llutz> skippy_: as you've been told, yes
[09:04] <reisio> skippy_: yes, unless you add -v
[09:04] <reisio> then it means don't show them
[09:04] <skippy_> I understand
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: yes, the model and the position_fix one
[09:04] <llutz> skippy_: read the man-page to see what are special characters/what aren't and what the options do
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: those are TWO module options, so both makes sense...right?
[09:04] <DJones> ChrisRiley: If you're using Ubuntu give it a try here, somebody may point you to a different channel if they think you'll get more support/advice there (eg ##hardware)
[09:04] <skippy_> That's all I need to know for grep really
 Many thanks!!!
[09:05] <skippy_>  grep –v ‘^#’ login.defs | grep –v ‘^$’ | nl
[09:05] <ChrisRiley> I'll give it a crack. Things don't add up to me but i'm really not a Linux/Unbuntu expert
[09:05] <skippy_> That's the only line I don't understand
[09:05] <GreekFreak> hi all
[09:05] <skippy_> What's the nl on the end mean?
[09:06] <llutz> skippy_: type "whatis nl" into a terminal
[09:06] <skippy_> Can u just tell me man
[09:06] <ChrisRiley> I'm building a new generation of our linux servers
[09:06] <skippy_> Plz
[09:06] <GreekFreak> I have an ubuntu server. last night it crashed and shut down. I'd like to find out why, but I'm not sure which log file I'm supposed to check....
[09:06] <reisio> skippy_: dude I already told you...
[09:06] <skippy_> Could u repeat it?
[09:06] <nathanbz> how do you work out what you should set shmmax and shmall to ?
[09:06] <skippy_> Plz
[09:07] <ChrisRiley> And the hdparm -tT /dev/sda results i'm getting for 'timing cached reads'
[09:07] <reisio> skippy_: it means output the contents of the file login.defs without comments (they tend to start with # chars), and then remove lines that are empty, and then number what's left
[09:07] <ChrisRiley> Are much better on my old 1366 socket server
[09:07] <skippy_> What you mean number whats left?
[09:08] <skippy_> Like number the lines?
[09:08] <ChrisRiley> Than my new gen 1155 - 1150
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> GreekFreak: try /var/log/dmesg.0.log
[09:08] <reisio> skippy_: yes
[09:08] <reisio> skippy_: nl
[09:09] <xeonix> ActionParsnip, I don't find that line on alsa-base.conf
[09:09] <skippy_> So like print all the remaining lines with their sequential number in front of them?
[09:09] <reisio> skippy_: echo -e 'one\ntwo' | nl
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: yes, thats why you are _adding_ it
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> xeonix: your sound chip needs extra options to work right, so you are adding them
[09:11] <skippy_> I just dont understand if u mean print the lines and number them or just state how many lines there r
[09:11] <christos_> anyone who know the  chanel of programmer?
[09:11] <GreekFreak> ActionParsnip, thanks. looking at it now, but doesn't say anywhere "SHUT down". I'm new to servers. Am I supposed to look for something specific, or should something "pop out" as irregular??
[09:11] <xeonix> Oh, I got it ActionParsnip, do i need restart?
[09:11] <skippy_> If u could answer that question I would really appreciate ir
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> christos_: ##programming  or try the channel for the language you code in