[08:45] <surgy> it sounds to me that you either have a screwed up partition or a screwed up drive
[08:45] <kishore_> stalled is also shown mostly when copying lasrge number of small size files
[08:47] <surgy> underdog5004: whould it help to see my xorg?
[08:47] <surgy> underdog5004: mine works perfectly, and the only extra i have is my nvidia driver
[08:47] <underdog5004> h/o, I've gotta get mine first...I want you to take a look at it...I haven't changed anything for quite a while....
[08:47] <Kite_DH> oh yes, and i got another question
[08:48] <Kite_DH> :(
[08:48] <surgy> what is this h/o ?
[08:48] <Kite_DH> hang on
[08:48] <Kite_DH> does it mean
[08:48] <underdog5004> hold on
[08:48] <surgy> !ask
[08:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:48] <Kite_DH> same
[08:48] <Kite_DH> ok
[08:48] <Kite_DH> its
[08:48] <Kite_DH> i got a printer
[08:48] <Kite_DH> called lexmark 1200 series
[08:49] <surgy> add printer >> raw data
[08:49] <Kite_DH> kubuntu shows me to install many lexmark models but mine
[08:49] <surgy> done :)
[08:49] <Kite_DH> ugh
[08:49] <Kite_DH> lets try o.o
[08:49] <surgy> use raw data
[08:49] <surgy> i have the same printer and that works perfect for me
[08:51] <Kite_DH> but it doesnt print anything
[08:51] <oliver_> HI, LiveCD 6.10 comes up with black screen and consoles (ALT+CTRL F1-F6) unusable, I need to modify xorg.conf in console mode,
[08:51] <Kite_DH> :(
[08:51] <underdog5004> !vim | oliver_
[08:51] <ubotu> oliver_: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[08:51] <surgy> ok i have a very good question: why dont we have ops in this chanel?
[08:52] <underdog5004> uhh....
[08:52] <surgy> kite_DH: hold on and while your holding you should disconnect the usb and reconnect it and try again
[08:52] <chavo> surgy, they are ninja ops
[08:52] <oliver_> underdog5004: I cant use a console, because the res is messed up
[08:52] <surgy> uhh?
[08:52] <surgy> chavo: ohhh
[08:52] <underdog5004> res...resolution? res...rest?
[08:53] <oliver_> resolution
[08:53] <surgy> kite_DH: check kviewer print jobs     see if it has a job in que
[08:54] <Kite_DH> naw it doesnt
[08:54] <underdog5004> oliver_, boot into recovery mode (esc when grub loads) then type vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:54] <oliver_> i tried safe mode, i tried VGA=771 at boot, always end up with messy Consoles and X
[08:54] <underdog5004> that'll let you configure it...if you want a "wizard" do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:54] <surgy> kite_DH: sorry thats all i can tell you, :(
[08:54] <surgy> underdog5004: cant find xorg ? :) j/k
[08:54] <Kite_DH> lets see
[08:55] <oliver_> underdog5004: boot into recovery, donno if there is one with LiveCd (i try to install )
[08:55] <underdog5004> !cheatcodes
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheatcodes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <underdog5004> !cheat codes
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheat codes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <surgy> !cheat
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <surgy> hmm...
[08:56] <Kite_DH> oh yes, and i got another question
[08:56] <underdog5004> surgy, it's killin' me...just a little longer...lol
[08:56] <Kite_DH> like, i was browsing on kde-look.org
[08:56] <Kite_DH> and i saw many themes
[08:56] <surgy> underdog5004: lol
[08:56] <Kite_DH> and i have no idea how to install em
[08:56] <underdog5004> Kite_DH, magic
[08:56] <oliver_> BTW its a Laptop with RADEON X700
[08:57] <Kite_DH> so linux users are wizards?
[08:57] <underdog5004> more or less
[08:57] <Kite_DH> hehe^^
[08:57] <chavo> Kite_DH, depends on the theme
[08:57] <underdog5004> we prefer warlocks
[08:57] <Kite_DH> chavo: lemme get something to have an example
[08:57] <surgy> underdog5004: you might try recovery console yourself, use lynx and that non gui irc thing i forget the name iriirc or something?
[08:57] <oliver_> I can get it to work when i have a console
[08:57] <chavo> Kite_DH, ok
[08:58] <chavo> some of the styles and windecos are in the repos too
[08:58] <chavo> then you can change the colors separately yourself
[08:58] <Kite_DH> chavo: this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44670
[08:58] <oliver_> underdog5004: is there a way where i can boot without starting X
[08:58] <Kite_DH> yes, i did that, but i want that glass look
[08:58] <surgy> kite_DH: have you ever ran the command "sudo apt-get update" ?
[08:58] <Kite_DH> transparent windows
[08:59] <Kite_DH> surgy: no, whats that
[08:59] <user_> hey anyone know a good video editing app?
[08:59] <surgy> kite_DH: like auto updates for windows, it updates all your drivers and everything
[08:59] <underdog5004> dammit, pastebin thinks I'm spamming it.
[08:59] <Kite_DH> oh, wo
[08:59] <Kite_DH> where do u have to type it in?
[08:59] <surgy> underdog5004: use a different one?
[08:59] <surgy> kite_DH: konsole
[08:59] <underdog5004> yeah, I'll havta
[09:00] <user_> anyone?
[09:00] <surgy> underdog5004: http://www.pastebin.ca lets me paste 10k lines once
[09:00] <Kite_DH> now this konsole wrote many thingies
[09:00] <Kite_DH> whats it about?
[09:00] <chavo> Kite_DH, looks like qtcurve for the style, and he's running beryl for the windo decorations
[09:00] <surgy> kite_dh: just let it go
[09:00] <Kite_DH> its done already
[09:00] <Kite_DH> chavo: whats beryl? where can i get it
[09:01] <underdog5004> ok, pastebin.com/883516
[09:01] <surgy> kite_dh: ok now type: sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:01] <underdog5004> geez, that was like pulling teeth
[09:01] <underdog5004> !beryl
[09:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:01] <underdog5004> afk
[09:01] <chavo> Kite_DH, beryl is the 3d desktop, it uses the graphics card to paint your desktop
[09:01] <Kite_DH> oh?
[09:01] <surgy> kite_dh: you should check out beryl it outperforms vista in gui looks
[09:01] <oliver_> Is there a way to kill X, "like with a CTRL Backspace" without restarting
[09:02] <Kite_DH> if you tell me where to get it
[09:02] <chavo> Kite_DH, what video card do you have?
[09:02] <surgy> oliver_: cntrl+alt+backspace
[09:02] <Kite_DH> i would love to
[09:02] <crimsun> oliver_: well, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ...
[09:02] <surgy> kite_DH: ask that in #beryl
[09:02] <Kite_DH> nVidia GeForce 6200 SE
[09:02] <Kite_DH> i think
[09:02] <Kite_DH> ok thx
[09:02] <chavo> that will work fine
[09:02] <Kite_DH> oh yes
[09:02] <Kite_DH> erm
[09:02] <Kite_DH> my gfxcard
[09:02] <Kite_DH> kubuntu found the wrong one
[09:02] <oliver_> surgy: true but the its restarting ?!  (I need a hotkey, I CANT use a console
[09:03] <Kite_DH> but it works too
[09:03] <Kite_DH> and the one i got isnt in the list either
[09:03] <chavo> yeah the one sdriver will work for any nvidia card
[09:03] <Kite_DH> alright
[09:03] <Kite_DH> thx chavo
[09:03] <chavo> but you need to install the proprietary nvidia driver for 3d acceleration
[09:04] <surgy> oliver_: try alt + F1
[09:04] <chavo> the free driver doesn't do it yet
[09:04] <Kite_DH> lets see after that update
[09:04] <chavo> Kite_DH, are you on edgy?
[09:04] <surgy> !nvidia |Kite_DH
[09:04] <ubotu> Kite_DH: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <oliver_> surgy: The consoles are not usable (resolution is messed up) thats why i cant use cosole commands
[09:05] <underdog5004> surgy, I know you're busy...have you checked out my thing yet?
[09:05] <Kite_DH> what edgy
[09:05] <Kite_DH> o.o
[09:05] <chavo> 6.10
[09:05] <underdog5004> Kite_DH, edgy is the latest stable version of ubuntu
[09:05] <underdog5004> !edgy
[09:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:05] <Kite_DH> i got...
[09:05] <Kite_DH> Kubuntu 6.10
[09:05] <chavo> yep that's it
[09:05] <Kite_DH> is it that?
[09:05] <Kite_DH> ok then i got edgy
[09:05] <surgy> underdog5004: im looking, and it looks weird, its not even following the same convention as mine, it is in the wrong order and has stuff i have never seen
[09:06] <underdog5004> surgy, weird....
[09:06] <chavo> here's a kubuntu package of the kde style in that screenshot http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40920
[09:06] <underdog5004> any way I can re-do it?
[09:06] <chavo> qtcurve is my favorite style, very configurable
[09:06] <surgy> oliver_: i dont quite understand what you want your res setting are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf change them with a texteditor
[09:06] <Kite_DH> no i mean
[09:06] <surgy> underdog5004: wanna look at mine and compare?
[09:06] <Kite_DH> i want that glossy look
[09:06] <Kite_DH> that glass
[09:07] <Kite_DH> like vistas aero
[09:07] <underdog5004> oliver_, or, you can go through Kmenu>system settings> Monitor/Disply
[09:07] <chavo> the titlebars, yeah that's beryl
[09:07] <surgy> kite_DH: get beryl you will be happy
[09:07] <underdog5004> surgy, uh...sure
[09:07] <underdog5004> pleas
[09:07] <underdog5004> please*
[09:07] <adydas> Is beryl just a 3d desktop?
[09:07] <chavo> but you might as well grab qtcurve too cause it rocks, you can get the glassy loking buttons, etc
[09:07] <underdog5004> surgy, are you on edgy as well?
[09:07] <NightBird> adydas, that and plugins to add features...
[09:08] <chavo> adydas, well it's really a new way to draw the desktop using the graphics card
[09:08] <underdog5004> can't wait for my new computer....
[09:08] <surgy> underdog5004: yep
[09:08] <surgy> underdog5004: http://www.pastebin.ca/361653 thats mine
[09:08] <chavo> the plugins and effects give it the 3d qualities
[09:08] <underdog5004> just need the nvidia PCI card to run all the beryl magic
[09:08] <Kite_DH> these guys in beryl channel
[09:08] <Kite_DH> are talking weird stugg
[09:08] <Kite_DH> stuff*
[09:08] <Kite_DH> :(
[09:08] <Kite_DH> XGL or something
[09:08] <adydas> pci-express?
[09:08] <surgy> kite_DH: learn it and love it :)
[09:08] <Kite_DH> or AIXGL
[09:08] <Kite_DH> im already in love with kubuntu <3
[09:08] <underdog5004> nope, old school pci
[09:09] <Kite_DH> still some problems =)
[09:09] <NightBird> yes, xgl is a replacement for the X windowing system that uses openGL to do rendering
[09:09] <underdog5004> cause my mobo is too cheap to have AGP or PCIe
[09:09] <NightBird> aixgl is an attempt to add openGL capabilities to the regular x server
[09:09] <unix_infidel> no agp?
[09:09] <underdog5004> no agp
[09:09] <unix_infidel> wowza.
[09:09] <adydas> sounds dumb,
[09:09] <NightBird> underdog5004: ouch
[09:09] <NightBird> that is a cheap mobo
[09:09] <chavo> Kite_DH, yeah beryl and company are still in heavy development and changing quite a bit, so which way to use beryl depends on what version of kubuntu you have
[09:09] <unix_infidel> whatever gets the job done
[09:10] <underdog5004> yeah, it's a rather old HP...2.5ghz Celeron, though...gonna beef up the RAM to a Gig...I've literally got a gig of PC133 RAM laying around...a 512 and 2 256 sticks...
[09:10] <NightBird> chavo, or just install from source :P
[09:10] <oliver_> surgy: I can switch to a console (ALT+STRG+F1-F6) but the resolution is messed up, i cant see a thing, its all colours. and ALT+CTRL+F7 is ablack screen, if i restart X it comes back black, so i need to find a way to get at least a console working or to boot without X, (ITs a Live CD)
[09:10] <surgy> underdog5004: whats all that crap about bitmaps at the beginning of your xorg?
[09:10] <underdog5004> to be honest, I have no idea
[09:10] <surgy> oliver_: but X is working right?
[09:11] <Kite_DH> thx guys
[09:11] <Kite_DH> u were a big help
[09:11] <Kite_DH> i will join ur channel all the time now
[09:11] <Kite_DH> hahaha
[09:11] <oliver_> surgy: if get there i know howto get x working correct, i have the parameters to change xorg.conf in front of me
[09:11] <surgy> underdog5004: see how i commented out my wacom devices? do that to yours on all that bitmap bullshit :)
[09:11] <chavo> Kite_DH, here's a how to to install beryl in 6.10 http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=51
[09:11] <pancho> hey I need help with installing mercury on ubuntu
[09:11] <underdog5004> just the Load         "bitmap"  right?
[09:11] <pancho> anyone know how to do that
[09:12] <oliver_> surgy: it is working, i hear the startup sound but screens black
[09:12] <surgy> oliver_: so you cant get into a console or kde? and your talking to us from another computer or the live cd?
[09:12] <Kite_DH> thx chavo
[09:12] <oliver_> i am talking from a nother computer
[09:12] <surgy> underdog5004: comment that whole first section and see what happens
[09:13] <oliver_> Desktop is fine, Laptop is the problem (RADEON X700 chip)
[09:13] <surgy> oliver_: how attached are you to your install?
[09:13] <cre8r1> hello everyone, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.
[09:13] <pancho> yeah my desktop has a radeon 92500 chip, thing crashed on me I need to get me a new video card
[09:13] <underdog5004> the whole Section "Module" part?
[09:13] <pancho> gave an ati2dvag.dll error
[09:14] <Kite_DH> thx chavo
[09:14] <Kite_DH> i will do it after update
[09:14] <surgy> underdog5004: let me look it up again, you know how to use cp to make a backup right? i whould do that first just in case
[09:14] <chavo> ok
[09:14] <underdog5004> lol, the problem is there is no easy way to test it...just leave it running...
[09:14] <oliver_> surgy: don't understand "attached" in this context, sorry my English :-)
[09:14] <Kite_DH> maybe you can help me with something else too
[09:14] <underdog5004> surgy, I think if anything goes wrong, I'll just do recovery> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[09:14] <Kite_DH> i saw many screenshots on KDE-look.org with widgets on their desktop
[09:14] <underdog5004> superkaramba
[09:15] <underdog5004> !superkaramba
[09:15] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[09:15] <Kite_DH> like instant access to their HD and they got weather service or something
[09:15] <Kite_DH> wow
[09:15] <Kite_DH> thx
[09:15] <underdog5004> np
[09:15] <Kite_DH> where to get the app??
[09:15] <underdog5004> Kite_DH, sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[09:15] <surgy> underdog5004: umm yeah you seea the first section? from the first line all the way down to the first big space
[09:15] <Kite_DH> that cmd seems handy
[09:16] <surgy> oliver_: attached? where did you get that?
[09:16] <underdog5004> surgy, thanks so much for your time, if it doesn't work, I know where to find help (and you!).
[09:16] <underdog5004> surgy, I commented that whole portion out, np
[09:16] <underdog5004> lets see how it does!
[09:16] <surgy> oliver_: oh sorry, reinstall kubuntu, if you have nothing to loose, else i cant help
[09:16] <surgy> good luck dog
[09:17] <underdog5004> tyvm, I need it!
[09:17] <surgy> ?
[09:17] <surgy> oh nvm lol
[09:17] <underdog5004> I'm on an old 933Mhz PIII with 512Mb RAM...I need all the luck I can get
[09:17] <Kite_DH> hmm  i got another question
[09:17] <underdog5004> lol
[09:17] <underdog5004> !ask
[09:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:17] <Kite_DH> my sister cant listen to mp3
[09:17] <Kite_DH> lawl
[09:17] <underdog5004> !mp3
[09:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <surgy> underdog5004: lol yeah, when you get your new comp remember i take old ones as donations :)
[09:17] <Kite_DH> on amarok
[09:17] <Kite_DH> oh
[09:18] <oliver_> surgy: to install/reinstall (what i like to do now) i need the LiveCD (or any Kubuntu CD) but i end up with THAT problem
[09:18] <Kite_DH> she needs mp3 support too?
[09:18] <Kite_DH> but i installed it on my user account
[09:18] <underdog5004> surgy, if you like...it'll make a good server, I guess...I've got a 733 w/ 512 RAM as my home bt server...it kicks ass...
[09:18] <Kite_DH> does that mean i have to make it on every acc too?
[09:18] <surgy> oliver_: do you have an LCD monitor?
[09:18] <underdog5004> Kite_DH, idk...maybe
[09:18] <Kite_DH> hmm..alright
[09:18] <underdog5004> Kite_DH, it shouldn't be that way though, since you use sudo to install it....
[09:18] <surgy> underdog5004: yes it whould be nice to have if you wanna mail it to  me
[09:18] <oliver_> surgy: Laptop LCD
[09:20] <surgy> oliver_: i bet your problem is your refresh rate is too high....... my LCD only supports up to 70mhz, and i dont know how to change it, when kubuntu tried to set it to 75mhz i had the same problem, but i uninstalled/reinstalled and it fixed it
[09:20] <underdog5004> how about this: you pay for half the shipping, and I'll ship it to you, with a 40 gig HD, 512 Megs RAM, ATI RAGE 64 gfx card, and a wireless card guaranteed to work out of the box?
[09:20] <underdog5004> oh, uh, I meant a 30 gig drive...
[09:20] <surgy> underdog5004: get me a qoute :)
[09:20] <underdog5004> alrighty
[09:20] <underdog5004> ttyal
[09:21] <surgy> anyone else need my tech support?
[09:21] <surgy> lol
[09:21] <oliver_> surgy: realy, the only thing i need is to boot the LIVECD with the consoles working in a correct resolution or to kill X at ALT+CTRL+F7
[09:21] <orient2000> !Ubuntu
[09:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:21] <oliver_> surgy: and the i am able to install
[09:21] <orient2000> #ubuntu
[09:22] <surgy> oliver_: right..... and since you said you cant do any of that, i am of no good use to you..... sorry :( i just dont know
[09:22] <kishore_> is anyone using feisty in here?
[09:22] <surgy> i am
[09:22] <surgy> not
[09:22] <surgy> :)
[09:22] <kishore_> i am unable to suspend on feisty
[09:23] <cre8r1> hello everyone, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.
[09:23] <kishore_> so was wondering if any one else had the issue
[09:23] <cre8r1> hello everyone, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.
[09:23] <surgy> !wine |cre8r1
[09:23] <oliver_> surgy: thanks anyhow
[09:23] <ubotu> cre8r1: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:23] <orient2000> I can not download gaim and other programs is there ane repositories down?
[09:23] <surgy> oliver_:anytime
[09:24] <surgy> orient2000: whats your errors?
[09:24] <cre8r1> This question is for anyone who knows the answer, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.
[09:24] <orient2000> I use adept and just says error no more like program is not there
[09:24] <oliver_> surgy: BTW, an installation of Feisty (4) works on this LAPTOP, since i could use the consoles
[09:24] <surgy> cre8r1: i answered your question......
[09:25] <surgy> oliver_: you should try it, be warned it isnt officially stable until april
[09:25] <orient2000> let me check
[09:25] <cre8r1> thanks
[09:25] <surgy> orient2000: sounds like you havnt enabled your repositorys or updated your system using sudo apt-get update
[09:25] <oliver_> surgy: i know, thanks. I am using edgy on my Desktop for "REAL WORLD"
[09:25] <surgy> cr8r1: np
[09:26] <orient2000> It says BREAK (install)
[09:26] <orient2000> I did updated
[09:26] <surgy> !adeptfix orient2000
[09:26] <surgy> !adeptfix | orient2000
[09:26] <ubotu> orient2000: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:26] <Kite_DH> oh yes
[09:27] <Kite_DH> this question is very stoopi
[09:27] <Kite_DH> stoopid*
[09:27] <Kite_DH> here it goes>_<
[09:27] <Kite_DH> like...
[09:27] <surgy> no question is stupid
[09:27] <Kite_DH> i have kubuntu 6.10 live CD
[09:27] <Kite_DH> and i installed it
[09:27] <Kite_DH> to my HD
[09:27] <Kite_DH> and..i wanted to ask
[09:27] <surgy> try to condense your statements to one line though
[09:27] <Kite_DH> if i got a full version of kubuntu 510
[09:27] <Kite_DH> 6.10*
[09:27] <Kite_DH> yes sry
[09:28] <NightBird> you installed kubuntu from a 6.10 live cd?
[09:28] <Kite_DH> yes
[09:28] <surgy> i did
[09:28] <NightBird> and you're asking if you have the full version?
[09:28] <Kite_DH> right
[09:28] <Kite_DH> it was a normal 800MB CD+rw
[09:28] <surgy> kite_DH: yes you have the full version, nightbird is gonna flame you i think :)
[09:28] <Kite_DH> im sry :(
[09:28] <surgy> your fine
[09:28] <NightBird> I'm just trying to think of what might be missing
[09:28] <surgy> no worries :)
[09:29] <NightBird> what might give you the idea that it's an incomplete version..
[09:29] <surgy> nightbird: nothing he cant get from the repos
[09:29] <surgy> nightbird: becuase theres a dvd version probably
[09:29] <Kite_DH> that question was because i saw DVDs with kubuntu 6.10
[09:29] <NightBird> 6.06 had a dvd version, but that just had stuff available from the repos put on the cd for easier access...
[09:29] <NightBird> ah, is there a dvd version now?
[09:29] <surgy> yes
[09:29] <surgy> kite_DH: no worries you can get that stuff from apt-get
[09:30] <Kite_DH> oh, btw the update is extracting rightnow
[09:30] <NightBird> or from adapt manager :P
[09:30] <Kite_DH> it downloaded 24minutes
[09:30] <surgy> kite_DH: good
[09:30] <NightBird> if you prefer a more gui version than apt-get
[09:30] <surgy> just remember to kdesu adept and not sudo, you could destroy it that way i learned the hard way
[09:31] <NightBird> really...
[09:31] <Kite_DH> oh yes, another question...am i bothering?? well its like, im a 'gfx guy' and i used Photoshop CS2 on windows XP....is there a way to get that running on my Kubuntu??
[09:31] <NightBird> so there is a difference between sudo and kdesu?
[09:31] <surgy> nightbird: all guid apps should be kdesu
[09:31] <surgy> !kdesu | nightbird
[09:31] <ubotu> nightbird: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:31] <orient2000> an not start such directory /var/... does not exist
[09:31] <NightBird> huh... ok
[09:32] <surgy> !repositorys
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <surgy> !repo
[09:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:32] <surgy> i cant spell for shit
[09:32] <NightBird> heh
[09:32] <NightBird> there are a number of image editing tools that contain most of the main features found in photoshop..
[09:33] <Kite_DH> but i only learned PS
[09:33] <surgy> kite_DH: use wine
[09:33] <Kite_DH> back then with XP
[09:33] <NightBird> if you *must* have photoshop working, wine might be able to help you since I don't think PS is available on linux..
[09:33] <surgy> wine runs PS fine
[09:33] <NightBird> really?
[09:33] <Kite_DH> whats wine
[09:33] <Kite_DH> so many new things..
[09:33] <surgy> !wine |kite_DH
[09:33] <ubotu> kite_DH: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:34] <Kite_DH> oh..
[09:34] <Kite_DH> is that for free?
[09:34] <NightBird> wine is
[09:34] <surgy> nightbird: its slower than windows on loads but other than that its fine for me
[09:34] <surgy> PS costs
[09:34] <NightBird> huh
[09:34] <Kite_DH> i know that
[09:34] <Kite_DH> i mean, if wine costs
[09:34] <Kite_DH> i saw another app called crossover
[09:34] <NightBird> there are a number of commercial versions of wine
[09:34] <Kite_DH> costs 56
[09:34] <surgy> kite_DH: actually you allready have wine
[09:34] <NightBird> crossover uses wine
[09:34] <Kite_DH> i do?
[09:34] <surgy> yes
[09:35] <Kite_DH> o.o
[09:35] <surgy> open konsole and type: wine
[09:35] <Kite_DH> wait, after the extracting
[09:35] <Kite_DH> it extract...long
[09:35] <Kite_DH> somehow
[09:35] <NightBird> surgy, wine comes preinstalled in kubuntu now or something?
[09:35] <Kite_DH> seems more than i dled lol
[09:35] <surgy> kite_DH: its updating your entire OS be patient
[09:35] <Kite_DH> oh, ok
[09:35] <surgy> nightbird: yes basic wine should be there
[09:35] <surgy> i think
[09:35] <NightBird> huh
[09:36] <Kite_DH> yes i see its installed
[09:36] <surgy> see
[09:36] <NightBird> interesting
[09:36] <surgy> although i prefer beer
[09:36] <Kite_DH> ok its done
[09:36] <surgy> kite_DH: good now your up to date
[09:36] <NightBird> the whole... senior seminar took up a bit of time...
[09:36] <Kite_DH> wow
[09:36] <Kite_DH> looks awesome
[09:37] <surgy> nightbird: what are you talking about? are you an ubuntu dev?
[09:37] <crazy_penguin> Hello
[09:37] <surgy> hi penguin
[09:37] <NightBird> supertux5, no...
[09:37] <NightBird> er... surgy
[09:37] <NightBird> sorry supertux5
[09:37] <Kite_DH> ok, is there anythign next?
[09:37] <NightBird> (might as well get two nick allerts in there)
[09:37] <surgy> kite_DH: what do you mean "next" ?
[09:37] <Kite_DH> something usefull
[09:37] <Kite_DH> for me
[09:37] <Kite_DH> or so
[09:38] <surgy> well i dont know what you want
[09:38] <NightBird> Kite_DH, try installing photoshop
[09:38] <surgy> im gonna smoke another cig and hit the sack its 2:40 am here.....
[09:38] <NightBird> or you could restart if you want to have the system fully upgraded
[09:38] <NightBird> (aka, using the new kernel/x system)
[09:39] <Kite_DH> i would love to install it, but to install it i would have to get my files from my DVD...we had that earlier
[09:39] <Kite_DH> anyway
[09:39] <Kite_DH> http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=51
[09:39] <surgy> kite_DH: insert the cd and then open konsole and type: cd /media/cdrom0          and then type: wine setup.exe
[09:39] <Kite_DH> here it says
[09:39] <Kite_DH> Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[09:39] <Kite_DH> whats that?
[09:39] <Kite_DH>  /etc/apt/sources.list:
[09:39] <surgy> kite_DH: open a konsole, and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <NightBird> mmm nano
[09:40] <NightBird> >_>
[09:40] <NightBird> :P
[09:40] <surgy> nightbird: thought we were gui fans? :)
[09:40] <Kite_DH> oh ok
[09:40] <surgy> you see now?
[09:40] <dhq> i need help with my keyboard my win key and capsloct doesntwork can anyone help me
[09:40] <NightBird> surgy, yeah, well... for some reason whenever I start in with a konsole I tend to stick to the console for awhile :P
[09:41] <surgy> nightbird: lol
[09:41] <NightBird> for some reason, having to click on things slows me down...
[09:41] <surgy> dhq: wallmart >> $9.99 == new keyboard ?
[09:41] <NightBird> yeah, does it work in windows?
[09:41] <NightBird> or some other OS?
[09:41] <dhq> surgy: its a laptop and it works on any linux os live cd
[09:41] <NightBird> ah
[09:42] <surgy> your regional settings?
[09:42] <surgy> i think i better let nightbird have this one
[09:42] <NightBird> surgy, oh no it's not
[09:42] <surgy> ?
[09:43] <dhq> surgy: NightBirdso help me
[09:43] <NightBird> surgy, I've reached my limit on the ammount that I can help :P
[09:43] <NightBird> (which was to confirm if it was a software or hardware issue)
[09:43] <dhq> its a software issue
[09:43] <NightBird> if it was hardware, I would have told him to try a new keyboard... if software, I would have told him I can't help him
[09:43] <surgy> nightbird: i was a newbie 5 weeks ago only got 6 weeks of linux under my belt, im paying back all those who helped me by helping others :) paying what i owe to the comunity
[09:44] <surgy> nightbird: and thats as good advice as i can give
[09:44] <Kite_DH> it seems to install that beryl now
[09:44] <surgy> kewl
[09:44] <NightBird> surgy: I'm also a linux newbie... I just try to help when I can, and when I don't know how to help, I let them know :P
[09:44] <surgy> kite_DH: get your drivers installed first?
[09:44] <Kite_DH> now its extracting again
[09:44] <NightBird> dhq, have you checked the keyboard region setting like surgy suggested?
[09:45] <dhq> NightBird: well i guess i have :)
[09:45] <Kite_DH> now i have a thing called emerald manager
[09:45] <Kite_DH> or something
[09:45] <NightBird> despite having a number of difficulties >_>
[09:45] <Kite_DH> is that beryl?
[09:45] <NightBird> yeah
[09:45] <Kite_DH> what to do next
[09:45] <NightBird> emerald manager is the window manager that beryl comes with
[09:45] <surgy> kite_DH: emerald manager helps you control the way your windows look
[09:45] <Kite_DH> oh
[09:45] <Kite_DH> lets see
[09:45] <NightBird> there is another window manager that lets you use the kde window manager, but still retain all of the plugin effects
[09:46] <Kite_DH> o.o empty
[09:46] <surgy> imop beryl is a resource hog.... i game too much for it
[09:46] <Kite_DH> aw there
[09:46] <surgy> !keyboard
[09:46] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:46] <NightBird> yeah, it does take an opengl refrence, and if your system doesn't support multiple opengl handles, you're left with software rendering
[09:46] <surgy> !keyboard | dhq
[09:46] <ubotu> dhq: please see above
[09:47] <NightBird> haha nice
[09:47] <surgy> nice AI system you have ubotu
[09:47] <Kite_DH> are there beryl themes?
[09:47] <NightBird> Kite_DH, are you using hardware rendering right now?
[09:47] <NightBird> yes there are
[09:47] <dhq> yes i love ubotu
[09:47] <surgy> kite_DH yes you should join #beryl
[09:47] <Kite_DH> no idea what i use
[09:47] <Kite_DH> ok
[09:48] <surgy> ok guys any last questions before i hit the sack?
[09:48] <NightBird> where do babies come from?
[09:48] <Kite_DH> yes
[09:48] <NightBird> j/k
[09:48] <Kite_DH> what does "hit the sack" mean
[09:48] <Kite_DH> hit your balls?
[09:48] <Kite_DH> or...what
[09:48] <surgy> nightbird: from between your legs :) j/k
[09:49] <Kite_DH> is that like slang or something
[09:49] <surgy> kite_DH: i was refering to sack as my pillow not my testies lol
[09:49] <Kite_DH> lol
[09:49] <NightBird> Kite_DH, it means go to sleep
[09:49] <Kite_DH> oh
[09:49] <Kite_DH> ok
[09:49] <Kite_DH> lawl
[09:49] <NightBird> I don't believe that #kubuntu is the place to talk about your masturbation practices...
[09:49] <surgy> gut nacht soldat und kubuntu
[09:49] <surgy> did i say that right
[09:49] <surgy> ?
[09:50] <NightBird> dunno, it's been about 8 years since I took german
[09:50] <Kite_DH> gute nacht
[09:50] <surgy> lol good night
[09:50] <Kite_DH> ;D
[09:50] <NightBird> sleep well
[09:50] <surgy> yerp
[09:52] <orient2000> !adeptfix
[09:52] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:52] <Kite_DH> im like testing around wine rightnow
[09:52] <Kite_DH> >_<
[09:53] <NightBird> good luck
[09:53] <Kite_DH> that konsole stuff rox
[09:53] <NightBird> what version or you using?
[09:53] <Kite_DH> i will need to learn it
[09:53] <Kite_DH> version of kubuntu?
[09:53] <NightBird> no, wine
[09:53] <Kite_DH> no idea
[09:53] <NightBird> wine --version
[09:53] <Kite_DH> 0.9.22
[09:54] <NightBird> hm... 9 versions behind... not too bad I guess...
[09:54] <NightBird> current is 0.9.31
[09:55] <NightBird> which, since the latest updates have focused on dx, and better support for some of that kind of stuff, older versions are fine for most setups
[09:58] <Kite_DH> NightBird: hey, when i type in my console "wine /media/cdrom0/Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Retail/Setup.exe"
[09:58] <Kite_DH> it says
[09:59] <Kite_DH> wine: cannot find '/media/cdrom0/Adobe'
[10:00] <Kite_DH> oh now
[10:00] <Kite_DH> it works
[10:01] <Kite_DH> wow thank you very much
[10:04] <vincent_> hello everybody
[10:06] <andreas_> hello
[10:06] <andreas_> maybe i found some bugs in the adept updater of feisty herd 4
[10:07] <vincent_> I would need some quick help : I installed Kubuntu Edgy i386 on a AMD64 machine, I am running the <IP_ADDRESS>-generic kernel. Now I want to install GPU drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html. But do I need the IA32 or the AMD64 since I installed Kubuntu from a i386  CD ?
[10:08] <chavo> vincent_ you would need the ia32 but the nvidia drivers are available in the repos
[10:10] <vincent_> thanks chavo but yesterday I installed the nvida-glx from the official repositories and it made my system freeze on Firefox and even adept ... this is why I want to try the legacy version from nvid's website
[10:10] <chavo> vincent_ what card do you have?
[10:10] <vincent_> Twintech Geforce 6200 TC
[10:11] <Kite_DH> nice
[10:11] <Kite_DH> everything works
[10:12] <Kite_DH> NightBird: hey night, is there a way to unzip .rar and .zip files with Ark?
[10:12] <andreas_> there were 46 packages updatable and after downloading there appeared some windows where i should enter a value between -20 and 19. in the detail area were some lines like this: "Use of uninitilaizes value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN3> line 4." (also the same message with <GEN3> line 9, 17, 25, 33, 41, 49, 57 and 65). if someone is interested in this..
[10:12] <NightBird> I believe you can unzip and unrar files using Ark...
[10:12] <chavo> Kite_DH, zip is built in for rar- sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:13] <Kite_DH> thx
[10:13] <Kite_DH> hey chavo
[10:14] <Kite_DH> i installed photoshop 7.0
[10:14] <Kite_DH> and it doesnt launch the app
[10:14] <Kite_DH> somehow
[10:14] <Kite_DH> another question is, how can i uninstall things?
[10:15] <NightBird> using wine?
[10:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> I know the terminal commands adduser and deluser, but how do you show a list of users?
[10:15] <Kite_DH> yes
[10:15] <chavo> Kite_DH, not sure about the photoshop thing it works well with crossover office, but that costs money
[10:15] <osiris> !restriceddd formats > osiris
[10:15] <osiris> !restriced formats > osiris
[10:15] <osiris> !restricted formats > osiris
[10:15] <Kite_DH> hmm
[10:16] <NightBird> Kite_DH, there should be an uninstall in the kde menu...
[10:16] <Kite_DH> how can i get this karamba things agai
[10:16] <Kite_DH> again
[10:16] <NightBird> for some reason, my version of wine has been putting it under lost and found
[10:16] <NightBird> !karamba | Kite_DH
[10:16] <ubotu> Kite_DH: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[10:16] <NightBird> huh
[10:16] <NightBird> it actually had something on it
[10:16] <Kite_DH> i mean
[10:16] <NightBird> I'm guessing you could just add it using the package manager
[10:16] <Ademan> anyone here who uses ktorrent, how does the queue manager work? the higher a torrent is in the queue manager list the higher priority?
[10:17] <Kite_DH> wasnt there a cmd
[10:17] <NightBird> to start it?
[10:17] <Kite_DH> to dl
[10:17] <Kite_DH> yes
[10:17] <Kite_DH> and install
[10:17] <NightBird> try searching for it in the package manager
[10:17] <NightBird> (aka, adept)
[10:17] <NightBird> or apt-cache search (name)
[10:18] <NightBird> to find the package, then sudo apt-get install <name>
[10:18] <Kite_DH> m konqueror somehow...
[10:18] <Kite_DH> doesnt work
[10:18] <Kite_DH> wait, i got to restart
[10:18] <Kite_DH> brb
[10:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> does anyone know the difference between GTK, KDE, and X11?
[10:20] <NightBird> I do!
[10:20] <NightBird> GTK and KDE are desktop environments
[10:20] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, don't know if there's a command to list all users
[10:20] <vincent_> Anyone solved this freezing bug with nvidia cards ? on firefox and other apps under Ubuntu ...
[10:20] <chavo> you can cat /etc/passwd
[10:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah that does it chavo
[10:21] <NightBird> X11 provides an x server that GUI programs use to display stuff to the screen
[10:21] <chavo> try this cat /etc/passwd | grep /bin/bash | cut -d: -f1
[10:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> nightbird- so am I using KDE or GTK? I thought GTK was the 'widgets' part of X11
[10:21] <chavo> that will clean it up some
[10:21] <fdoving> chavo: 'getent passwd' to list all users.
[10:21] <chavo> GTK is the widget set used by gnome apps for the most part
[10:22] <NightBird> dettoaltrimenti_, if you're using kubuntu, you are probably using kde
[10:22] <NightBird> er... gtk isn't an environment... that's gnome >_>
[10:22] <NightBird> gtk is a programming library
[10:22] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, kde apps are built using the QT toolkit
[10:23] <chavo> but you can use gtk, gnome apps under gnome and vice versa
[10:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> so gtk is a programming library- so it's only used to install programs?
[10:23] <chavo> under KDE  I mean
[10:23] <NightBird> used to provide a cross platform system that uses the current systems UI items so that GTK programs will look the same as the rest of your applications...
[10:23] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, it's the API used to program the apps like WIN32 under windows
[10:24] <chavo> it provides the widgets, etc.
[10:24] <Kite_DH> back
[10:24] <NightBird> wb
[10:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> I'm sorry, I'm just curious about how all this works- so GTK and QT are APIs, application programming interfaces, but what do they do?
[10:25] <Kite_DH> hey..i installed winRAR b4 i knew that Ark can unrar...how can i uninstall winRAR again?
[10:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> Kite_DH- how did you install it?
[10:25] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, they draw the windows, the buttons, scrollbars, etc
[10:26] <NightBird> did you use apt-get to install it?
[10:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> chavo- you mean when X11 says I need my desktop icons on the desktop, then QT runs and 'draws' them there right?
[10:27] <chavo> basically QT tells X11 waht to draw, it all sits on top of X
[10:27] <Kite_DH> hmm what happened q.q
[10:27] <NightBird> X11 simply provides a method to draw to the screen and get events...
[10:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh ok
[10:27] <NightBird> so it might be able to say 'oh, this part has been uncovered, I better tell that program about it'
[10:28] <NightBird> or.. 'the user clicked! I better tell this program about it..."
[10:28] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: qt provides standard ways to make buttons and boxes easily. if you compare kde apps, you can see the buttons looks much about the same, for example.
[10:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> and KDE and Gnome are equals- so I could run X11 on gnome, or xfce.... and I could run QT or GTK on x11 or xfce, right?
[10:28] <Kite_DH> dettoaltrimenti_: with WINE
[10:29] <NightBird> dettoaltrimenti_, you run gnome, xfce, kde, etc ontop of x11
[10:29] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: X11 runs under all of the graphical stuff
[10:29] <Jucato> kernel -> X11 -> KDE/GNOME/Fluxbox/etc
[10:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> Window System-> Desktop Environment->  "widget toolkit".... so X11, KDE, GTK
[10:30] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: for a better understanding of what an API (like QT and GTK) is and how it works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/API
[10:30] <NightBird> dettoaltrimenti_, X11 is not a widget toolkit
[10:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> in that order I mean
[10:30] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: not entirely accurate
[10:30] <NightBird> kde is a desktop environment
[10:31] <Kite_DH> so, i installed winRAR with WINE, how do uninstall it?
[10:31] <fdoving> .. but it also have an API.. :)
[10:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> X11 is a window system, which can run a desktop environment(kde or gnome), and within that it runs a 'widget toolkit(this is what wikipedia calls gtk)' (gtk or qt)
[10:31] <NightBird> Kite, is there something in your menu?
[10:31] <Kite_DH> yes
[10:31] <NightBird> the kde menu I mean
[10:31] <Kite_DH> it says
[10:31] <Kite_DH> Wine >
[10:31] <NightBird> does that work?
[10:31] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: the toolkits are not separate layer that's run independently of the Window Manager or Desktop Environment
[10:32] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11 for more info on X11.
[10:33] <Kite_DH> yes...
[10:33] <Kite_DH> i think
[10:33] <Kite_DH> but i dont want it anymore
[10:33] <NightBird> X11 is below the window system.  kde, gnome, etc provide window managers.  they also provide a desktop environment, and widget toolkits to provide a unified presentation
[10:33] <Kite_DH> since i can do it with ARK now
[10:33] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: as jucato says, the toolkits are used to make programs (like desktop enviroments, KDE and GNOME and their apps), it doesn't run by itself, like X11 does.
[10:33] <NightBird> Kite_DH, is there an uninstall option?
[10:33] <Kite_DH> no there isnt
[10:33] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: a toolkit is a sort of basic building block (program-wise) for making graphical interfaces, such as the control widgets (scrollbars, buttons, dialog boxes) used in window managers and desktop environments.
[10:33] <NightBird> hm... so you want to fine the wine add/remove programs, huh?
[10:33] <Kite_DH> yes
[10:34] <NightBird> Kite_DH: .... good question... better ask in #winehq
[10:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks for the help guys- I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments and I think I'm clear on it now
[10:34] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: you might want to add this to your growing list of wikipedia articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_toolkit
[10:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> I am going through adept, and some things I don't understand like why do I have QT and GTK installed
[10:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh thanks jucato
[10:35] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, if you install any gtk/gnome apps it will install the gtk library also
[10:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> another question if you can handle it- why do I have QT3 and QT4 installed on my computer, as well as GTK, GTK+, GTK2, GTK+ 2.0 etc things- are they all the same?
[10:36] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: KDE/GNOME basically builds on Qt/GTK. it uses Qt/GTK to draw and define widgets (another term you might want to look up) and how interact with them. KDE/GNOME has it's own API (another term?) or set of functions/classes, but all these use Qt/GTK too
[10:36] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: they're not the same. Qt 3 vs. Qt 4
[10:36] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: the reason you have them installed now, is that if let's say some KDE application wants to make a scrollbar, it executes some code that refers to something in the QT api, if you don't have the QT software libraries installed, that won't work.
[10:37] <Jucato> btw, the only reason why Qt 4 is installed also on Edgy is because the Kubuntu Hardware Database uses Python-Qt4
[10:37] <chavo> KDE4 is built on qt4, but there are some apps that use it already
[10:37] <fdoving> speedcrunch for example..
[10:38] <Jucato> oh yeah, speedcrunch too
[10:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh wow, and QT is used in windows and mac too?
[10:38] <fdoving> yes.
[10:38] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: *can* be used, yes. GTK can be used on Windows too
[10:39] <chavo> yup I have the Gimp installed on my windows box
[10:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a way to get a list of all the terminal commands, or is there a nice list somewhere online?
[10:39] <Jucato> !cli
[10:39] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:39] <Jucato> you can start with those ^^^
[10:40] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: there are *thousands* of commands :)
[10:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks- I was looking at useradd and userdel, and I have an adept package that adds the commands adduser and deluser- weirddd
[10:40] <Kite_DH> how to find out what graphiccard i have?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: adduser and deluser are easier to use
[10:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> Kite_DH lspci
[10:41] <Kite_DH> run in konsole?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: e.g.  adduser me audio  adds the user "me" to the "audio" group ,  adduser me  just creates a new "me" user :)
[10:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> is that harder than in useradd
[10:42] <Kite_DH> and which one of that is my GFX?
[10:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh I see, it's way easier
[10:43] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: it's *very* easy - there's even a walk through questions etc if needed
[10:43] <Kite_DH> it says
[10:43] <fdoving> Kite_DH: the one with 'VGA compatible controller'..
[10:43] <Kite_DH> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0162 (rev a                                                                                1)
[10:43] <Kite_DH> hmm
[10:43] <Kite_DH> and when i open beryl it crashed
[10:43] <Kite_DH> crashs*
[10:43] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: just be sure to logout - login to make the changes effective
[10:44] <NightBird> ok... try installing the nvidia driver
[10:44] <NightBird> (that was to Kite_DG)
[10:44] <Kite_DH> hows that possible
[10:44] <NightBird> er.. DH
[10:44] <fdoving> Kite_DH: you can try 'sudo update-pciids' and then try lspci again.
[10:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks thoreauputic- mainly just trying to go beyong 'newbie' in linux, learn a little more
[10:44] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: another good CLI site is http://tuxfiles.org
[10:45] <thoreauputic> simple and a good intro
[10:45] <Kite_DH> now it says
[10:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[10:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> one more question- is there way to make the grep command not case sensitive?
[10:45] <Kite_DH> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)
[10:45] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_:  grep -i
[10:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[10:46] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:46] <ksnipa> Quick question i got superkaramba installed and when i run it from the tray and I install new widgets/gadets how do I go about opening them? Where do they save to?
[10:46] <Kite_DH> restart
[10:46] <luca> hello everybody!
[10:47] <Kite_DH> ok
[10:48] <Kite_DH> ok i got nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)
[10:48] <Kite_DH> but kubuntu says: nv
[10:48] <Kite_DH> lol
[10:48] <luca> can anyone tell me where i can find the small installation cd of kubuntu, that is about 200 Mb, please?
[10:48] <Kite_DH> how can i tell kubuntu i got that card
[10:48] <fdoving> !nvidia
[10:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ^^
[10:49] <chavo> ksnipa, ~/.kde/share/apps/supekaramba/themes but it should be available to use after you install it
[10:50] <ksnipa> chavo, thanks yea thats how I assumed it would work but never seem to show up there, but when I do go to install them again they got the checkmark beside them so don't know whats up with that
[10:50] <Kite_DH> fdoving: somehow i dont get what they want from me
[10:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> does the 'rm' command permanently delete a file, no sending it to the recycle bin right?
[10:51] <Kite_DH> i dont have that synaptic stuff
[10:51] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: right
[10:51] <fdoving> Kite_DH: you use adept instead of synaptic.
[10:51] <Kite_DH> ok
[10:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> so, let me get this straight- when you put something in the recycle bin, your computer(as far as terminal commands) is moving the file to another folder, and then keeping a record of what directory the file came from?
[10:52] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: correct.
[10:52] <Jucato> yep yep
[10:53] <Kite_DH> hmm
[10:53] <ksnipa> Chavo, I'm able to get the themes into my list now but when I do add them to the desktop, they don't seem to appear, any ideas?
[10:53] <tuco> Hello all
[10:53] <chavo> ksnipa, if you double click it, it should say if it's running or not
[10:54] <ksnipa> chavo, says its running but can't see it on the desktop anywhere
[10:54] <dettoaltrimenti_> so the way most programs work in linux is there is a program that only works on the command line, then a GUI is made to run those commands? So when I use adept, when I click on buttons it just saves me the time of writing 'sudo apt-get install' and all that: and Synaptic and Adept both use apt-get?
[10:54] <chavo> ksnipa, it may be under your other windows
[10:54] <luca> i found ubuntu minimal installation cd, for the installaton from network. but i would like kde (kubuntu), not gnome! can anyone help me?
[10:55] <tuco> I have a question. I need to download a package to get my ati card working properly, same for my audigy card. All for laptop, thank you fellas.
[10:55] <ksnipa> chavo, lol give me some credit ;) yea I minimized them all nothing there, superkarmba crashed on me just now so I just restarted it, but still nothing, I think I might need to download and re-make it
[10:55] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: yes, more or less
[10:55] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: usually a GUI program has a CLI backend
[10:56] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: or several, sometimes
[10:56] <chavo> ksnipa, hmm may be a buggy theme
[10:56] <chavo> you built superkaramba?
[10:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> CLI is command line interface, ok- are all CLIs usable on their own, in the terminal? for example, aspell, the spellchecker CLI used in openoffice?
[10:56] <ksnipa> chavo, no i installed it using synpatic
[10:56] <chavo> ok
[10:57] <ksnipa> chavo, theme I was running was the clock and also tried the kopete one
[10:57] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: it's often much quicker to use the command - aspell is usable on the CLI I think, yeah
[10:57] <ksnipa> same problem for both
[10:58] <chavo> ksnipa, clock magick, that analog clock?
[10:58] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: type  aspell --help | less   :)
[10:58] <ksnipa> chavo, yup thats the one
[10:58] <chavo> hmm works for me
[10:58] <tuco> Anyone can help me guys?
[10:59] <ksnipa> yea, You  think making it from source would make a difference?
[10:59] <Kite_DH> reboot
[10:59] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: there's also the "dict" command, that looks up words on line from dictionaries ( e.g.  dict weird  dict foo )
[10:59] <dettoaltrimenti_> I uninstalled less
[10:59] <chavo> tuco for the ati card look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: why ??
[11:00] <chavo> as for the audigy card it should work
[11:00] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: less is one of the most useful commands...
[11:00] <Linux_Galore> tuco: you dont need a driver for the audigy card its already there and the ati stuff is on the ubuntu server
[11:00] <Linux_Galore> !ati
[11:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <decapitated> Anybody here?
[11:00] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok I'll put it back on, see what it can do
[11:01] <chavo> decapitated, just us bots
[11:01] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: less can do heaps - see man less :)
[11:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> will do
[11:01] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_:   "less is more "
[11:01] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[11:01] <tuco> Well I need to have my audigy 2 zs notebook recognized, as I can't seem to do it!
[11:02] <thoreauputic> dettoaltrimenti_: just curious - why on earth did you uninstall it ?
[11:02] <Kite_DH> im back
[11:02] <Linux_Galore> lesson 1, don't use azureus and amarok at the same time
[11:02] <chavo> you can also use man:/appname to point and click your way through man pages in konqueror
[11:02] <decapitated> Can anybody tell me how to play MP3's with amaroK?
[11:03] <Linux_Galore> tuco: aah no driver for the z series yet
[11:03] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <decapitated> ok. Thanks.
[11:03] <luca> decapitated: you need to install some package
[11:03] <Linux_Galore> tuco: creative are releasing one
[11:03] <tuco> the audigy one work
[11:03] <decapitated> Which one?
[11:03] <decapitated> k
[11:04] <tuco> I made it work once no problem at all
[11:04] <decapitated> cool
[11:04] <tuco> ok downloaded the ati drivers through adept, do I need to restart the machine for it to pick them up?
[11:04] <Linux_Galore> tuco: just use the generic sb driver
[11:04] <tuco> ok
[11:04] <tuco> logging off and back
[11:05] <ksnipa> chavo, i turned my wall paper off now I'm seeing a black square where the clock magic clock would be placed any ideas what this problems linked to?
[11:05] <luca> decapitated: i don't remember... i did it lot of time ago. you can try to do a search in "ubuntu forum"
[11:05] <chavo> ksnipa, no idea sorry
[11:05] <decapitated> ok
[11:05] <ksnipa> chavo, thanks anyways
[11:05] <detto> damn internet
[11:05] <detto> is there any way to see which CLIs a certain GUI uses?
[11:05] <sergo_>  ?
[11:06] <detto> !ru | sergo_
[11:06] <ubotu> sergo_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:07] <luca> decapitated: it's http :// forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php/topic,24715.0. html
[11:08] <thoreauputic> detto: if you know the package name, look at the files with   dpkg -L | grep bin
[11:08] <Jucato> detto: it's not usually obvious. you'd have to do a bit of research. sometimes the app's description says which backend it uses
[11:08] <decapitated> Bye
[11:08] <thoreauputic> detto: or | grep games  for games
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Jucato: see my answer above
[11:09] <thoreauputic> actually  dpkg -L <packagename>
[11:09] <detto> ill give it a try
[11:09] <Jucato> thoreauputic: he was wondering earlier about GUI apps that are frontends to CLI commands
[11:09] <thoreauputic> Jucato: yes i know
[11:10] <thoreauputic> detto:  dpkg -L <packagename>  gives a full list of the files installed by a package
[11:10] <Jucato> yes, but what I had in mind would be like Adept being a front-end to APT. so it won't be listed in Adept's package list
[11:11] <Jucato> anyway... nvm
[11:11] <thoreauputic> Jucato: ah i see - in that case   apt-det depends adept  is useful
[11:11] <thoreauputic> bah   apt-get depends adept
[11:11] <thoreauputic> ***#$@ typos ....
[11:12] <BitOBear> So I have loaded the tor and privoxy packages but when I enable tor in Firefox it just gives me an error page... any thoughts?
[11:12] <thoreauputic> still wrong .. should be apt-cache depends adept , sorry
[11:16] <sergo_> anybody knows how to connect evolution to egroupware?
[11:16] <sergo_> any plugins?
[11:20] <premier_> does anyone here know how to make icons in konqueror to show movies?  Ive heard its possible
[11:21] <caris_mere> Is there a way to put a link to a partition on the desktop, but not all partitions?
[11:21] <atidem> hi folks
[11:21] <caris_mere> hi
[11:22] <Jucato> caris_mere: try right-clicking on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Device
[11:22] <caris_mere> jucato: thanks
[11:27] <crazy_bus> :( kubuntu is still losing system files
[11:28] <pesky> I got a new laptop today, how easy is it to get the HP function keys to work
[11:28] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hi
[11:29] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i have problems with KDEtv
[11:29] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can someone help?
[11:31] <atidem> pesky: what's the model?
[11:36] <detto> let me know if this isn't the best place to ask this question, but- I was looking at information on the programming languages Lua and Guile- why are there so many programming languages, and what is the difference between a programming language and scripting language?
[11:37] <Lynoure> detto: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic would be a more suitable place.  But did you tried to find the answer already yourself?
[11:38] <Jucato> !offtopic
[11:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:38] <Kite_DH> !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <Lynoure> detto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_language is a mighty good starting place, and if you spend some time there, you'll prolly find the answers
[11:40] <Alllex> Hey everyone- I want to compile Java; how can I do that from the Konsole?
[11:40] <cox377> i've got this issue when connecting to a kubuntu share. basically when i connect frtom a windows machine it asks for user name and password giving me full read/write access however when i connect from another linx machine it goes straight in on the files but i can only read. how do i make it ask me for the user and pass like it does in windows?
[11:42] <Kite_DH> guys
[11:42] <Kite_DH> i got a problem
[11:42] <Kite_DH> im on kubuntu 6.10 and i cant hear sounds
[11:42] <Kite_DH> like music or whatever
[11:43] <Dekans> how can I have beryl at startup in KDE
[11:43] <cox377> Kite_DH: what sound card have u go?
[11:43] <Dekans> I launch beryl-manager but kwin is often selected by default
[11:44] <cox377> Kite_DH: run this in terminal to set up the sound card
[11:44] <cox377> Kite_DH: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[11:45] <Kite_DH> ALSA or OSS?
[11:45] <Kite_DH> it seems to be installed
[11:46] <cox377> Kite_DH: try one and see which one works
[11:46] <Kite_DH> but i cant even use the volume control
[11:46] <cox377> Kite_DH: what do u mean?
[11:46] <Kite_DH> like when i start Kmix
[11:46] <Kite_DH> i cant choose a device or so
[11:46] <Kite_DH> normally it says HDDI
[11:46] <Kite_DH> or something
[11:47] <cox377> Kite_DH: is there any devices listed?
[11:47] <Kite_DH> no
[11:47] <Kite_DH> theres nothing
[11:47] <cox377> Kite_DH: is it onboard?
[11:47] <Kite_DH> yes
[11:47] <daleach> hey guys I just installed xgl/compiz
[11:48] <daleach> some issues: kpanel is like frozen not working...
[11:48] <daleach> is kpanel still its own app i should see in ps | grep kpanel ?
[11:49] <cox377> does anyone here know more about configuring onboard sound cards
[11:49] <cox377> Kite_DH: i've always had it work straight out of the box for me
[11:49] <Kite_DH> yes i mean that
[11:49] <Kite_DH> sry
[11:49] <Kite_DH> i got pc boxes
[11:49] <Jucato> daleach: the app/process name is "kicker"
[11:49] <Kite_DH> on the other user it works
[11:49] <Kite_DH> but not here
[11:50] <daleach> thanks Jucato
[11:50] <daleach> hehe alt shift tab doens't go backwards (hehe not a biggie)
[11:50] <cox377> Kite_DH: you mean when logged in under different users it works?
[11:51] <Kite_DH> yes
[11:51] <Kite_DH> when i logged into my account
[11:51] <Kite_DH> it works
[11:51] <daleach> and why does alt f2 which pops up the run command window.....get rid of all of my other apps (so weird)... i can still alt tab to them
[11:51] <Kite_DH> and now here on this one
[11:51] <Kite_DH> its not working
[11:51] <Kite_DH> no sound
[11:51] <daleach> i tried alt control left to see if they're on another part of the cube but they'rre not...
[11:51] <Kite_DH> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High
[11:51] <Kite_DH>  Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[11:52] <cox377> Kite_DH: so your logged into a differnet account?
[11:52] <Kite_DH> yes
[11:52] <Kite_DH> i am on the account which is not working
[11:52] <cox377> Kite_DH: sorry mate, your gonna have to ask someone like jucato for this prob
[11:52] <Kite_DH> Jucato: did you read my problem?
[11:53] <sampan> i'm no expert but it sounds like that account might just need to be added to the "sound" group?
[11:53] <Kite_DH> o.o
[11:53] <Kite_DH> where to do that
[11:53] <Jucato> I did.. but I'm no hardware person :(
[11:53] <Jucato> !sound
[11:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:53] <Kite_DH> its an admin account
[11:53] <thoreauputic> Kite_DH:  actually it's the "audio" group
[11:55] <daleach> so this is strange...my kicker after killing and starting again gives me this... i stop at "examining file progress" source trash:/ 0%
[11:55] <daleach> what's the deal with that thing
[11:56] <Kite_DH> cox377: when i type in my konsole:  lspci -v    it says Capabilities: <access denied>
[11:56] <Kite_DH> cox377: at the ending
[11:57] <Kite_DH> of my soundcard entry
[11:57] <sampan> kite_dh  thoreauputic is right it's the audio group.  system settings --> user management and then you can "audio" to the account's secondary groups (might be a cli way to do that too, but i'm unfamiliar)
[11:57] <sampan> you'll have to go into administrator mode of course
[11:58] <Kite_DH> there is no group called audio or sound
[11:58] <thoreauputic> Kite_DH:  sudo adduser <yourusername> audio
[11:58] <Kite_DH> wait a seccond
[11:58] <thoreauputic> Kite_DH: yes there is
[11:58] <Kite_DH> ok wait
[11:58] <thoreauputic> Kite_DH: you'll need to logout -in to make the cange effective
[11:58] <thoreauputic> *change
[11:58] <Kite_DH> ok brb
[11:58] <sampan> as usual the cli way is easier :D
[11:59] <thoreauputic> sampan: :)
[12:10] <inam> hi all... i need some help in compiling grub-0.97... when i run "make", it says graphics.c not found. has someone worked on grub before?
[12:10] <daleach> i'm on dapper is it possible i can start migrating to edgy eft by putting the new sources in sources.list?
[12:11] <nickgraber> hello
[12:12] <eltese> Has anyone here got around to try out Feisty?
[12:13] <chavo> eltese, been running feisty for a couple of weeks
[12:13] <Tm_T> eltese: Sure.
[12:14] <detto> dleach you can, but there's an easier way- sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[12:14] <Tm_T> eltese: Doing gallup?
[12:14] <detto> dleach then once you do that do this: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[12:16] <daleach> gksudo?
[12:16] <daleach> what's that
[12:17] <daleach> oh i see
[12:17] <nickgraber> I use kdesu to run gui apps as root
[12:18] <detto> or kdesu
[12:18] <eltese> chavo and tim_t: how does it work?
[12:19] <detto> I think there's another way to do it too with apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:19] <Heavenquake> I have a wireless problem. Running Kubuntu Linux on other PC, I've just put in a wireless adapter PCI card. It is automatically recognized, and works fine. Wlassistant also recognizes my accesspoint. But when trying to connect to that accesspoint, it simply fails. It is unencrypted and is about 3 meters away. My laptop running Windows does fine, and I am asking via this one. Any help?
[12:19] <eltese> is it stable? Does it run fine?
[12:19] <daleach> yeah not sure what apt-get dist-upgrade does really because when i do it i get 0
[12:19] <detto> Heavenquake is it dsl or cable? are you sure you don't need a pppoe connection with a name and password, or a WEP key?
[12:19] <daleach> but i'll read al il in man thanks for the help with the manager thing
[12:20] <detto> daleach I've also read you can just change all the dappers to edgy in sources.list then update upgrade from there too
[12:20] <chavo> eltese, runs great for me
[12:20] <daleach> ah ok cool
[12:20] <Heavenquake> detto: excuse me.. pppoe connection? name and password? there is no wep key or any other kind of encryption
[12:21] <paolo> ciao a tutti
[12:21] <detto> Heavenquake: unless you're using ADSL, you probably don't need it
[12:21] <paolo> ho appena installato kubuntu
[12:21] <Heavenquake> detto, I think it is ADSL
[12:22] <chavo> !it
[12:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:22] <paolo> ce ne uno in italiano?
[12:22] <detto> Heavenquake but you've never needed any kind of username and password for this access point?
[12:23] <Heavenquake> detto: not once. All other machines, all running windows, in this house just connects to the unencrypted accesspoint.
[12:23] <chavo> paolo, #kubuntu-it o #ubuntu-it
[12:24] <detto> heavenquake- what's the card model?
[12:25] <Heavenquake> detto: it's a Belkin Wireless G Desktop PCI Card (that's the model name, more or less. No fancy letters/numbers on this one). In Network Settings it seems to work properly, though
[12:25] <dudu> braziliansssss
[12:26] <dudu> anyone of Santa Catarina?
[12:26] <daleach> i get authenticate '/tmp/tmp-Ql8Jn/edgy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmp-Ql8Jn/edgy.tar.gz.gpg'
[12:26] <daleach> can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk
[12:27] <atadekudakero> Hai
[12:27] <atadekudakero> anyone from malaysia??
[12:28] <detto> heavenquake: do 'sudo pccardctl ident' in the terminal and tell me what it says
[12:28] <dudu> I'm almost from the malasya
[12:29] <atadekudakero> hai dudu
[12:29] <atadekudakero> where u from?
[12:29] <Heavenquake> detto: nothing
[12:29] <tanlaan> hello everyone
[12:29] <dudu> atadekudakero: hi , are you male or female?
[12:29] <detto> heavenquake: after that, type 'lshw' in the terminal and tell me what it says next to *-network (tell me if it says UNCLAIMED or DISABLED)
[12:29] <hans> ...einen wunderschne Sonntag mittag!
[12:29] <atadekudakero> u m/f dudu?
[12:30] <snsalk> hi
[12:30] <tanlaan> Where can I change the setting of the resolution of the non X environments? *such as ctrl-alt-F1*
[12:30] <hans> Das Linux-Magazin ist ja auch frech... "Linux statt Vista!" schreiben die...
[12:30] <Heavenquake> detto: there are multiple *-network entries, with different numbers
[12:31] <snsalk> englisch oder deutscher channel?
[12:31] <hans> Oh... i don't know how to change the resolution in console... sorry.
[12:31] <thoreauputic> !de
[12:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:31] <snsalk> thx
[12:32] <detto> heavenquake: sudo lshw | grep network, tell me if there's anything written after 'network' on any of the lines
[12:32] <snsalk> cu
[12:34] <Heavenquake> it says: *-network [newline+indent]  *-network:0 [newline+indent]  *-network:1
[12:34] <detto> hmmmm
[12:35] <mefisto__> I have a fsck problem that's preventing me from booting. On boot, it begins a fsck check, but before that it says "findfs: cannot resolve UUID=[the uuid of disk] . fsck fails to complete and a message says to run fsck manually, but I get the same cannot resolve uuid message when I do that
[12:37] <hans> Wie kann ich eigentlich mal im Netzwerk umherpingen, mal sehen welcher Rechner on ist?
[12:37] <pesky> i'm glad my new comp got through that fsck check it hung for a while
[12:38] <pesky> does centrino stuff work well with kubuntu?
[12:38] <Heavenquake> detto: ran out of ideas? :(
[12:38] <mefisto__> I have a fsck problem that's preventing me from booting. On boot, it begins a fsck check, but before that it says "findfs: cannot resolve UUID=[the uuid of disk] . fsck fails to complete and a message says to run fsck manually, but I get the same cannot resolve uuid message when I do that
[12:40] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:41] <detto> heavenquake unfortunately, yes. I'll keep looking, but I'm leaving soon...
[12:44] <cpk1> Heavenquake: can you connect to any networks?
[12:44] <cpk1> man I hate troubleshooting wireless but i can never seem to get enough of it
[12:44] <Heavenquake> cpk1, there is only one available accesspoint, and that is the same one that fails connection
[12:45] <cpk1> Heavenquake: whats the device name? wlan0? eth1?
[12:46] <Heavenquake> cpk1: according to wlassistant, the one that recognizes accesspoints at all, is wlan0
[12:47] <cpk1> oh, then i guess "iwlist wlan0 scan" gives results?
[12:47] <n4cht> yay!  networking issues!  i heart those!
[12:48] <Heavenquake> cpk1: strangely, it returns "No scan results"
[12:48] <n4cht> Heavenquake: what kind of adapter is your wlan0?
[12:49] <Heavenquake> n4cht: it's a PCI-card
[12:49] <cpk1> Heavenquake: that could be bad
[12:49] <n4cht> hazard a guess at the chipset?
[12:49] <cpk1> Heavenquake: alright lshw and find the card
[12:49] <georgianus> Hello, my amarok doesn't recognize any song in the collection, I scan it one time and another but the result is zero
[12:49] <n4cht> some prism chipset cards don't seem to respond to iwlist scans.
[12:49] <georgianus> I'm using SQlite, is it a good option?
[12:50] <Heavenquake> cpk1:  lshw returns 3 networking interfaces, and wlan0 is not one of them :/
[12:50] <detto> cpk1- you helped me yesterday get my wireless woking on my laptop, but I restarted and it won't work anymore! When I try 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper', it gives me the message "error inserting ndiswrapper: invalid argument." does this have something to do with me doing an update with apt-get you think?"
[12:50] <cpk1> detto: where you the one with the bcm43xx chipset?
[12:50] <detto> yes cpk1
[12:50] <cpk1> Heavenquake: but you know the name of the device right? find the name of it
[12:50] <Hoxxin> help! i burned a data dvd with K3b and now i cant copy or read the files on the dvd, not in ubuntu or windows, just getting a parameter error :/
[12:50] <cpk1> detto: how did you end up getting the card to work?
[12:50] <cpk1> detto: ndiswrapper or the linux drivers?
[12:51] <detto> ndiswrapper
[12:51] <Heavenquake> cpk1: The name is not listed there, neither...
[12:51] <n4cht> dangit.  i'm really growing to hate this artsd crash bug.
[12:51] <pesky> so i am in the middle of the installation for edgy trying to resize my windows partition and it says...qtparted-filesystem check failed! Totally 1cluster accounting mismatches.
[12:51] <pesky> what does that mean?
[12:51] <cpk1> Heavenquake: so you have 3 network devices other than your wireless card?
[12:51] <n4cht> pesky: did you defrag the drive first?
[12:52] <pesky> no, its a brand new computer
[12:52] <pesky> it does say active for the status of the windows partition
[12:53] <Heavenquake> cpk1: Hmm... There is an onboard LAN-thing, but that've never worked. Then I've got a PCI lan-card too, that works, I've got the wireless card that we're trying to make work, but I can't figure out what the last one is
[12:53] <zorglu_> !info bridge-utils
[12:53] <ubotu> bridge-utils: Utilities for configuring the Linux ethernet bridge. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 148 kB
[12:53] <cpk1> Heavenquake: pastebin your lshw output, all of it
[12:53] <n4cht> you should always defrag regardless of the age of the drive.  brand new or not, there's still a chance for a number of problems like bad sectors, and installation fragments.  a lot of times the mfg's don't defrag after installing the crucial security updates/service packs before they ship the system.
[12:53] <Heavenquake> cpk1: okay, hang on then
[12:54] <pesky> n4cht: thanks i will try that ;)
[12:55] <detto> cpk1 ndiswrapper drivers- now modprobe won't let me load the new driver- is there a way I can check to see if ndiswrapper was updated when I did a full upgrade in adept?
[12:55] <n4cht> detto: instead of ndiswrapper, you might also want to consider the linux-wlan-ng package.  that works like a charm for a lot of wireless adapters, and after installing the package and modprobe -r ndiswrapper, it starts at boot and 'just works'.   your adapter might be supported by that package.
[12:56] <n4cht> detto: sudo ndiswrapper -l    make sure your adapter's driver didn't get uninstalled during an upgrade also.
[12:56] <cpk1> detto: dmesg | grep ndiswrapper see if there is anything usefull in there
[12:56] <detto> it's still there n4cht
[12:57] <Heavenquake> cpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/361882  -- I have to go for lunch, will be right back
[12:57] <cpk1> hrmm ok well its 4 am for me so i cant make any promises i'll be here
[12:58] <detto> cpk1 no, it just has the failed attempts from the past 5 or 6 minutes
[12:58] <n4cht> has anyone had the problem with artsd crashing, and whining about CPU overload?   i tried google, and came up with a lot of people with the same problem, but not a single solution.  (aside from upgrading to 3.5.5, but that's what I'm already running.)
[12:58] <cpk1> Heavenquake:  product: RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI thats your wireless card
[12:59] <cpk1> same card I have which I havent bothered to get working yet
[12:59] <cpk1> n4cht: get 3.5.6
[12:59] <n4cht> cpk1: is it in the repos now?
[12:59] <cpk1> yup
[12:59] <cpk1> use !easysource to add the right ones
[01:00] <cpk1> detto: and you didnt set it so ndiswrapper starts on boot?
[01:00] <n4cht> !easysource
[01:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:01] <detto> cpk1 I did
[01:01] <cpk1> detto: did you compile ndiswrapper yourself?
[01:01] <detto> cpk1 and it did start I suppose, but it probably sent the same error I've been getting when it tried to load the driver
[01:01] <detto> cpk1 yes
[01:01] <cpk1> detto: did you get a kernel update after compiling it?
[01:01] <vince_> Hi everybody, I would like to test kubuntu feisty. Could someone tell me what the "official" way to upgrade from 6.10 is ? Is it the same as from 6.06 to 6.10 ?
[01:01] <Hoxxin> im in big trouble and need help. i made a backup copy with k3b and was gonna copy the data to a windows machine, all files are on the dvd but i cant paste them into windows or ubuntu
[01:02] <detto> cpk1 yes I did
[01:02] <ubuntu> Hi Guys
[01:02] <cpk1> detto: cat /proc/version and then modinfo ndiswrapper
[01:03] <detto> cpk1 linux version 2.6.17-11-generic, ndiswrapper vermagic: <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[01:03] <detto> the linux version does say gcc version 4.1.2, while ndiswrapper says gcc-4.1 cpk1
[01:04] <ubuntu> Some Questions, ive got 3 harddrives, one with Xp installed, named sda, one just for Xp Tools, named hda and the third is hdb with ubuntu
[01:05] <cpk1> detto: i would say recompile or do the easy thing and uninstall what you compiled and use the repos
[01:05] <ubuntu> The Installation was Succesfull, but when i Reboot after the Installation there's no GRUB ?
[01:05] <ubuntu> so i can't use Ubuntu
[01:05] <detto> cpk1- the thing is I don't have any access aside from wireless ;) I'll recompile it though
[01:07] <n4cht> hahaha. i generate the sources.list from source-o-matic, and have 92 kde related updates instantly.
[01:07] <ubuntu> what can i do to make GRUB Loaden when i'm Rebootin my System after the Installation ?
[01:07] <cpk1> yeah you miss some nice things without the kde specific repos and backports
[01:08] <detto> cpk1 that worked! thanks
[01:08] <cpk1> no problem
[01:09] <n4cht> cpk1: no kidding!   i didn't even know about the backport repos.  those make me happy.
[01:10] <ubuntu> so is there help 4 me , anyway? anybody ?
[01:10] <n4cht> today i shall do what i've always wanted to do;  resize my ubuntu partition to occupy my entire drive.   now that i have all of my games and apps working perfectly with wine, i no longer need windows -at all-.
[01:10] <vince_> #kubuntu-fr
[01:10] <pesky> n4cht: thats great, stick it to M$
[01:11] <cpk1> hooray n4cht
[01:11] <cpk1> dualbooting is annoying anyways
[01:12] <pesky> indeed, aparently i can run 2 operating systems at once with dual core, i hope thats the case
[01:12] <n4cht> the one game i was most concerned with being able to play was World of Warcraft.  I got it working flawlessly with wine, and even have a super-improved framerate.    i guess it's because i'm not using an OS that devours almost all of my system resources just idling.
[01:12] <cpk1> actually windows always has to use 100% of the cpu
[01:12] <adydas> how did you find wine to get going?
[01:13] <cpk1> i find wiine to be really easy
[01:13] <pesky> yea it nearly always comes up with an error for most apps, i guess i need to configure it better or something
[01:13] <adydas> ive allways wanted to have a play with it, but never got any further than that
[01:13] <n4cht> cpk1: i noticed that recently.  system idle processes always eats up every bit of available cpu time, but never reports it as 100% usage.  weird.
[01:14] <n4cht> windows is just poorly designed, i think.
[01:14] <Chousuke> that's because it doesn't really eat up the cpu :P
[01:14] <n4cht> i'll be glad when i'm rid of it.
[01:14] <Chousuke> it's just there to show you how much of it is idle.
[01:14] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I am back.
[01:14] <cpk1> Heavenquake: you have an airlink pci card right?
[01:15] <Chousuke> And Windows isn't poorly designed, either. The implementation just could be better. :)
[01:15] <n4cht> Chousuke: i'd assume that if it's idling at that cpu usage, it's processing -something-, even if it's a billion blank lines.
[01:15] <Chousuke> n4cht: it's not using the cpu
[01:15] <pesky> Chousuke: M$ are friends with intel so they don't mind making an OS that rapes the CPU, gives people a good reason to buy a faster CPU, which happens to be mainly intels atm
[01:15] <Heavenquake> cpk1: It's a Belkin
[01:15] <cpk1> hrmm ok well we have the same chipset unless you have 2 wireless cards?
[01:15] <n4cht> pesky: which is partly why i only purchase from AMD.
[01:16] <Chousuke> I mean, it would be downright idiotic to consume 100% of CPU all the time
[01:16] <cpk1> except amd is in bed with ati
[01:16] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I seriously doubt I've got 2 wireless cards
[01:16] <pesky> well :( today i bought an intel core 2 duo, i had to for battery life, i have always gone amd, this is my first intel pc
[01:17] <Chousuke> and no matter what you think of Windows, assuming the implementers are so bad that they would allow such a thing is a bit drastic.
[01:17] <cpk1> Heavenquake: ok, then good news, we both have the same chipset
[01:17] <n4cht> cpk1: i've never used an ati card before.  i hear they're 'alright', but i've been more than pleased with all of the nvidia cards i've had.  heck, my old GeForce3 Ti500 with 64mb could run circles around a lot of newer cards.
[01:17] <cpk1> Heavenquake: bad news: I have been too damn lazy to get it working yet since I havent needed wireless on my desktop yet
[01:18] <Chousuke> Or well
[01:18] <n4cht> i moved the GeForce 3 over to the wife's gaming computer, and she gets the same fps that i do.
[01:18] <Heavenquake> cpk1: which means?
[01:18] <cpk1> Heavenquake: we get to learn together!
[01:19] <zorglu_> :)
[01:19] <n4cht> kde update is at 93%.  in the next couple of minutes i'll be restarting X and trying out 3.5.6
[01:19] <pesky> silly kde-look doesn't have wxga wallpapers
[01:19] <cpk1> Heavenquake: "lspci -n" and then find the line that starts with 01:06.0
[01:19] <n4cht> i hope this arts update fixes this bug.
[01:19] <cpk1> is arts getting updated?
[01:20] <n4cht> cpk1: thankfully, yes.
[01:20] <adydas> winecfg sets up wine yes no?
[01:20] <n4cht> adydas: yes.
[01:20] <cpk1> yes
[01:20] <adydas> and if that fails...
[01:20] <n4cht> quite well, i might add.
[01:20] <cpk1> winecfg wont fail
[01:21] <n4cht> it doesn't fail.  it just writes to your wine conf in .wine
[01:21] <adydas> root@desktop:/home/adydas# winecfg
[01:21] <adydas> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:21] <cpk1> first dont do winecfg as root
[01:21] <adydas> im following some help file
[01:21] <Heavenquake> cpk1: 01:06:0 0280: 1814:0301
[01:21] <cpk1> nothing about wine needs root
[01:21] <adydas> it suggested it incase it needed it
[01:22] <adydas> "Also, did you try running it as root? Maybe it is trying to establish a call that requires that sort of access.Also, did you try running it as root? Maybe it is trying to establish a call that requires that sort of access."
[01:22] <cpk1> Heavenquake: whats the name of your card?
[01:22] <cpk1> wine doesnt need root
[01:22] <n4cht> adydas: don't do that.   following "some help file" is generally not a good idea unless it's on one of the ubuntu forums, and even then i'd double check it a couple times.    google for "wow wine ubuntu"
[01:22] <n4cht> !worksforme
[01:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:22] <Heavenquake> cpk1: Belkin Wireless G Desktop Network Card
[01:22] <adydas> n4cht: yes it is a ubuntuforums thread
[01:23] <n4cht> adydas: like i said.. double check it.  find other related threads.   there should be absolutely no reason or time that one would need to run anything wine-related as root.
[01:24] <n4cht> heck, i find running anything that doesn't specifically ask for root access to be a bad idea in general.
[01:24] <n4cht> (running as root, that is.)
[01:26] <Heavenquake> cpk1: ?
[01:27] <cpk1> Heavenquake: like I said I have the same chipset as you but havent done anything with it yet so I have to figure it all out as we go here
[01:27] <adydas> well ill be dammed
[01:27] <n4cht> adydas:  worked properly when not run as root?
[01:28] <n4cht> hold that thought!  time to restart kde!
[01:29] <adydas> Perfectly..
[01:29] <adydas> im amazed
[01:29] <mefisto__> the kde panel crashes every time I click on the K menu. What can I try to fix this?
[01:31] <n4cht> hm.  no arts crash.
[01:31] <n4cht> time to see if the sound system is even turned on.
[01:32] <detto> on my new laptop, the graphics "skip" a bit when I scroll, like it's not scrolling smoothly... anyone know what may cause this
[01:32] <n4cht> it wasn't.  and arts still crashed.
[01:32] <Heavenquake> cpk1: well, I for one knows very little of the inner working of a network-card, so I hope you know that much more
[01:33] <cpk1> Heavenquake: give me a second I think i almost have it working
[01:33] <n4cht> weird.
[01:33] <n4cht> when i select oss, it doesn't crash.
[01:34] <n4cht> awesome.  it works.  i have my kde sounds and everything.
[01:34] <n4cht> i wonder, then, if the root of the problem is alsa?
[01:35] <adz21c> Hi,
[01:36] <adz21c> I am on a machine running dapper, when I boot up most of the time it fails to launch X, the only error i can see in the logs is "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", the file doesn't exist, where would I get this file?
[01:39] <pesky> sweet even my media remote works default :D
[01:39] <adydas> So where does wine put stuff?
[01:39] <n4cht> ~/.wine
[01:40] <cpk1> Heavenquake: also, make sure you have build-essential installed
[01:41] <xenol> plz how can i reconfigure java?
[01:41] <Heavenquake> cpk1: What for?
[01:42] <cpk1> Heavenquake: drivers
[01:42] <zorglu_> !java | xenol
[01:42] <ubotu> xenol: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:43] <pesky> n4cht:I defragged the HDD but i still can't resize it :(
[01:43] <xenol> zorglu_:  well i have installed but i also have GNU java and sun and i want to configure alternatives -java
[01:43] <n4cht> pesky: weird.
[01:43] <zorglu_> xenol: reading the page will provide the solution
[01:43] <detto> every time I move anything around, there's this invisible line that goes from the top of the screen to the bottom, it takes about a second to go all the way through, which changes the screen. this happens every time I move a window or scroll- is this a graphics driver problem?
[01:43] <Heavenquake> cpk1: how do you propose I install build-essential without access to the internet?
[01:43] <adydas> ha, stink
[01:44] <mefisto__> anyone know why clicking on the kmenu would crash the panel?
[01:44] <cpk1> Heavenquake: I was assuming you have a wired connection since it has 2 other nics
[01:44] <zorglu_> mefisto__: it is not supposed to, aka it is a bug
[01:45] <xenol> zorglu_:  so sudo apt-get install java-gcj-compat to install GNU java?
[01:45] <mefisto__> zorglu_: it was working fine a few hours ago
[01:45] <zorglu_> mefisto__: oh this is good info
[01:45] <zorglu_> mefisto__: what have you done during the last hours ?
[01:46] <Heavenquake> cpk1: trouble is that the hub/switch for LAN-cables goes in the other end of the house, and that one long cable goes from there and to the accesspoint here.
[01:47] <xenol> plz how can i enable audio/video preview in konqueror? which packages do i need for it?
[01:47] <mefisto__> zorglu_: I installed wine. using it locked everything up, so I gave up and removed wine
[01:48] <cpk1> hrmm well let me see what the dependencies for build essential are
[01:48] <adydas> im just tooting with wine at the moment
[01:48] <adydas> its semi impressive
[01:49] <mefisto__> adydas: could you get any audio using wine?
[01:49] <adz21c_> hi, i am on a machine running dapper and sometimes X failed to start, I checked the logs and only error i see is this "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", where can i get this file?
[01:49] <adydas> mefisto__: Just trying, all ive done so far is install a non sound based program to playings sake
[01:50] <mefisto__> adydas: let me know if you get any sound out of anything
[01:51] <adydas> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[01:51] <cpk1> Heavenquake: hrmm it looks like the build-essential dependencies might start to get a little out of hand
[01:51] <cpk1> anyone know if the live cd has build-essential?
[01:51] <Jucato> cpk1: it doesn't
[01:52] <cpk1> well that is awfully inconvenient
[01:52] <SolidSource> !icq
[01:52] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[01:52] <adydas> mefisto__: apparantly it also sucks to be me with no sound
[01:52] <cpk1> Jucato: so how to compile drivers for a network card on a box without net?
[01:53] <Jucato> cpk1: I don't know
[01:53] <mefisto__> adydas: did you try configuring anything? that is, winecfg?
[01:53] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I bet I'm screwed
[01:54] <cpk1> Heavenquake: is there another computer using ubuntu?
[01:55] <Heavenquake> cpk1: This one, my laptop, dualboots between Windows(which I'm on right now) and gNewSense, which i can't use due to, guess what, wireless-trouble!
[01:55] <cpk1> Heavenquake: the livecd should have make and and the kernel headers
[01:55] <cpk1> which apparently is enough
[01:56] <cpk1> Heavenquake: you have a livecd right?
[01:56] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I have Knoppix somewhere around, as well as Kubuntu Edgy yes
[01:56] <cpk1> we need the edgy cd
[01:56] <adydas> sheer intrest here, is a linux machine using wine to run a program that windows would get spyware from able to be vunreble to the same types of issues?
[01:57] <Heavenquake> cpk1: right here
[01:57] <Zaza> anyone know encryption well here ?
[01:57] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:57] <Heavenquake> cpk1: is there anything I should do before booting it?
[01:57] <Ace2016> what do i have to install to be able to play 3gp files?
[01:58] <adydas> arnt they vodafone cellphone files?
[01:58] <Ace2016> i have mplayer and w32codecs but it says there is a proble with the audioo
[01:58] <cpk1> Heavenquake: you dont boot it, hang on i am discussing this with some other people, we are arguing
[01:58] <Ace2016> adydas: yea its for phones
[01:58] <Zaza> Where is a good source for drive encryption advise please ?
[01:58] <Ace2016> but i want to watch them
[01:59] <adz21c_> hi, i am on a machine running dapper and sometimes X failed to start, I checked the logs and only error i see is this "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", where can i get this file? would this even be the cause of my problems? If that's the case then why does it do it intermitantly?
[02:00] <mefisto__> Ace2016: I can watch and hear them with real player 10
[02:01] <mefisto__> Ace2016: mplayer plays them too, but with no sound
[02:01] <MattF> 1 question from a noob chaps, whats the difference between the live CD and the DVD? Whats on the DVD thats not on the CD?
[02:02] <cpk1> Heavenquake: alright sorry for the wait
[02:02] <Heavenquake> cpk1: It's allright
[02:04] <cpk1> Heavenquake: alright mount the edgy cd and then run "apt-cdrom add" also please tell me you have a usb key or even a floppy drive to get the drivers over to the desktop
[02:05] <cpk1> Heavenquake: actually dont think you need the add part
[02:05] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I have a usbflashdisc
[02:06] <Heavenquake> cpk1: nonetheless the cdrom is now added to apt-get
[02:06] <cpk1> Heavenquake: alright aptitude install build-essential
[02:08] <Heavenquake> cpk1: seems to be successfull
[02:08] <cpk1> Heavenquake: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/data/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz thats the link for the driver
[02:10] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:10] <pesky> hi
[02:11] <Heavenquake> cpk1: Now i have the tar.gz file on the machine in question. Then what?
[02:12] <cpk1> Heavenquake: untar it to source/wireless or wherever you want
[02:12] <Heavenquake> cpk1: done
[02:13] <cpk1> Heavenquake: cd into the module directory wherever you untarred it to
[02:14] <cpk1> hooray looks like mine works
[02:16] <Heavenquake> cpk1: per@desktop:~/System/Wireless_Driver/Module$
[02:17] <cpk1> Heavenquake: what kernel you running?
[02:17] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I'm not sure. The one that goes with Kubuntu Edgy Eft..
[02:17] <cpk1> 2.6
[02:17] <sgalal> Hello All
[02:18] <cpk1> Heavenquake: do cp Makefile.6 Makefile
[02:18] <Heavenquake> cpk1: done
[02:18] <guiden> is there a new version of kubuntu out there?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> guiden: only edgy
[02:18] <guiden> how do I know which one I have?
[02:18] <cpk1> Heavenquake: then sudo mkdir -p /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ and please remember caps matter
[02:19] <cpk1> oh whoops dont forget make all from /System/Wireless_Driver/Module hehe =P
[02:19] <cpk1> getting tired over here
[02:20] <sgalal> I have a question about setting up GLUT for compiling things.
[02:20] <Heavenquake> cpk1: Now you made me confused :-P What exactly must I do?
[02:20] <sgalal>  Using Kubuntu Edgy Eft. Even though I installed "Freeglut3" I still get "hw1.cpp:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `glClear'" etc.
[02:21] <cpk1> Heavenquake: from inside the Module directory do make all
[02:21] <sgalal> Had this error before, but forgot how I dealt with it. It's probably straighforward. My apologies
[02:21] <sgalal> (Compiling with -lGL -lGLU -lglut)
[02:22] <Heavenquake> cpk1: done. Then what?
[02:23] <Jucato> sgalal: did you install freeglut3-dev?
[02:23] <cpk1> Heavenquake: sudo mkdir -p /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ and please remember caps matter
[02:23] <sgalal> Yes. Then I went crazy and installed a whole bunch of random *-dev packages as well
[02:24] <sgalal> mesa and xlib
[02:24] <Fontemourisca> Hi, i have a ASUS P5B dlx motherboard and Edgy Eft does not recognize the "onboard" sound card, is the a way to solve this problem?
[02:24] <sgalal> it still doesn't work. It's like it isn't finding the .h file. the gl functions are missing, as are glu and glut
[02:25] <sgalal> I start off with #include <GL/gl.h> #include <GL/glu.h> #include <GL/glut.h> #include <math.h>
[02:25] <Heavenquake> cpk1: also done
[02:25] <Jucato> not really sure... what are you trying to compile? you might need more specialized help and might not be a Kubuntu issue
[02:25] <Jucato> sgalal: ^^
[02:26] <Jucato> sgalal: also tried libglut3-dev?
[02:26] <sgalal> :) I see
[02:26] <sgalal> I'm trying to compile a simple GLUT example I was given in class
[02:26] <sgalal> I ran it on the lab computers and it's basically a bunch of lines drawn all around the screen
[02:27] <sgalal> @Jucato, I don't think I have libglut3-dev installed
[02:27] <cpk1> Heavenquake:cp rt2561.bin /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ cp rt2561s.bin /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ cp rt2661.bin /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/
[02:27] <sgalal> THe comment on it said it had been replaced by freeglut3
[02:27] <cpk1> Heavenquake: you will need sudo for those
[02:28] <cpk1> Heavenquake: cp rt61sta.dat  /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat and that
[02:28] <Jucato> sgalal: ah true...
[02:28] <Heavenquake> cpk1: would loggin in as # be preferably?
[02:28] <sgalal> I'm giving it a shot now
[02:28] <Jucato> sgalal: not really sure what else to do...
[02:29] <sgalal> I shall go and check whether the glut library developers have a forum somewhere :)
[02:29] <cpk1> Heavenquake: i dont care how you do it =P
[02:29] <sgalal> Thanks and ciao
[02:30] <Heavenquake> cpk1: done
[02:31] <Heavenquake> cpk1: or... What was that .dat thing?
[02:31] <cpk1> Heavenquake: cp that as well
[02:32] <cpk1> Heavenquake: and then sudo cp rt61.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/
[02:32] <Heavenquake> cpk1: `/etc/Wireless/RT6STA/rt61sta.dat': Not a directory
[02:32] <Skrot> How can I find the ID of a window?
[02:33] <johny_> !help
[02:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:33] <cpk1> Heavenquake: copy it from the module directory
[02:33] <cpk1> and /etc/Wireless/RT6STA/ better be a directory because thats what you cp'd everything else to
[02:35] <Heavenquake> cpk1: it worked now
[02:35] <Heavenquake> cpk1: forgot a 1
[02:35] <Heavenquake> cpk1: and the next command is done too
[02:36] <cpk1> Heavenquake: sudo depmod
[02:36] <johny_> !search Movix
[02:36] <ubotu> Found:
[02:36] <Heavenquake> cpk1: done
[02:36] <johny_> !search easy
[02:36] <ubotu> Found: easysource, bzr, repos, newton, easysources, easyubuntu, vmware, alcarte
[02:37] <detto> whats the terminal text editor??
[02:37] <hyper_ch> how can I make usbfs use instead of visor?
[02:37] <Heavenquake> detto: vi/vim, emacs, nano, joe etc...
[02:38] <detto> thamks
[02:38] <Ace2016> mefisto__: Thanks
[02:38] <mefisto__> Ace2016: np. so it works with realplayer?
[02:39] <johny_> Has someone already installed "fbdev" on Kubuntu?
[02:39] <Ace2016> mefisto__: i thanked you for the info, but i haven't installed realplayer yet, its not in my repos for some reason
[02:39] <cpk1> Heavenquake: you know how to use vim at all?
[02:40] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I know enough to code some php with it.
[02:40] <Ace2016> bye all
[02:41] <mefisto__> Ace2016: http://www.real.com/linux
[02:41] <cpk1> Heavenquake: ok you can change some parameters of the card by editing some file, so sudo vi -b /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat since it only takes ascii
[02:41] <cpk1> or  kdesu "kate --encoding ISO-8859-15 /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat" if you want to use kate
[02:42] <johny_> |
[02:42] <johny_> !fbdev
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fbdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <hyper_ch> !usbfs
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <Heavenquake> cpk1: what needs to be changed?
[02:43] <cpk1> Heavenquake: anyways, lets get rid of the old broken driver: sudo modprobe --remove rt61pci
[02:44] <cpk1> Heavenquake: and then load the new one modprobe rt61 (start praying)
[02:44] <Heavenquake> cpk1: removed
[02:44] <cpk1> those both need sudo most likely
[02:44] <Heavenquake> cpk1: modprobe rt61 returns void. I suppose this means success as void usually means?
[02:45] <cpk1> yeah
[02:45] <Heavenquake> cpk1: then what?
[02:45] <cpk1> iwconfig should now have ra0
[02:45] <johny_> !search kernell
[02:45] <ubotu> Found:
[02:45] <johny_> !search kernel
[02:45] <ubotu> Found: kernel, kqemu, kernelcompile, generic, bigiron, custom kernel, server, edgykernel*, headers, kernel-source
[02:45] <Heavenquake> cpk1: ra0                 no wireless extensions
[02:46] <cpk1> Heavenquake: then black list the old driver add 'blacklist rt61pci' at the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (no quotes)
[02:47] <Heavenquake> cpk1: :wq
[02:47] <cpk1> yes thats how you write out in vi =P
[02:48] <cpk1> and then echo 'rt61' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules and echo 'alias ra0 rt61' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to get the other one to start on boot
[02:48] <detto> i messed up
[02:49] <detto> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 i followd these instructions and now i have no graphics, but i still have the terminal
[02:49] <cpk1> Heavenquake: still with me?
[02:50] <Heavenquake> cpk1: yes. 2 seconds
[02:50] <Heavenquake> cpk1: what should the first command return? (the echo 'rt61' | sudo tee ...)
[02:51] <cpk1> rt61
[02:51] <Heavenquake> "tee: /etc/modules/: Is a directory [newline]  rt61"
[02:53] <cpk1> i guess thats close enough =P
[02:54] <Heavenquake> cpk1: now the other command's done too
[02:55] <cpk1> alright time to put into /etc/network/interfaces open that file up at put this in it
[02:55] <cpk1> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[02:55] <cpk1> auto ra0
[02:56] <olsta> hi
[02:56] <cpk1> morning
[02:56] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[02:56] <Heavenquake> cpk1: :wq
[02:56] <olsta> how can i install my x 1800 under kubuntu?
[02:57] <cpk1> Heavenquake: actually i should have mentioned tahts if you plan on using dhcp =P
[02:57] <BluesKaj> olsta, x1800 ?
[02:57] <cpk1> but I need to sleep right after this so errors like that will happen
[02:57] <olsta> i install the fglrx package from the rep and now?
[02:57] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I'm quite sure that it's dhcp I want
[02:57] <cpk1> Heavenquake: so now theoretically it should work
[02:57] <cpk1> but it doesnt for me =S
[02:57] <cpk1> i think its because I need to know the AP
[02:58] <BluesKaj> olsta, the binary ati pkg ?
[02:58] <olsta> yes from the rep
[02:58] <cpk1> Heavenquake: /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat go back to that file and fill in the correct information the readme in the module folder explains the values
[02:58] <olsta> must i edit the xorg.conf?
[02:58] <Heavenquake> cpk1: woooooow... something went terribly wrong somewhere... I run wlassistant, which shuts down immediately due to "no usable wireless devices found""
[02:59] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[02:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:59] <cpk1> Heavenquake: you need to bring it up first, but before you that edit /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat with your essid and network type and whatnot
[02:59] <cpk1> before you do that*
[02:59] <olsta> can someone help me?
[03:00] <BluesKaj> olsta, type 'fglrxinfo' in the terminal paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:00] <vrkhans> does there any way i can install Kubuntu from command prompt
[03:00] <Heavenquake> cpk1: Now I'm lost... What should I write in the file?
[03:00] <cpk1> vrkhans: sure is, use aptitude if you already have ubuntu installed
[03:00] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-install
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <BluesKaj> !install
[03:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:01] <cpk1> Heavenquake: whats your ssid?
[03:01] <cpk1> Heavenquake: what channel is the ap using? and is it ad-hoc or infrastructure?
[03:01] <Krator> Gah, I just installed kubuntu for the first time (first time I try linux too) - and now I spend 2 hours disabling features I don't need.
[03:02] <olsta> BluesKaj: its by my friend about the phone he told me something with mesa
[03:02] <Heavenquake> cpk1: I seriously don't know
[03:02] <cpk1> Heavenquake: also what channels does your country use?
[03:02] <olsta> he must edit the xorg.conf?
[03:02] <cpk1> Heavenquake: wahts the name of your network?
[03:03] <Heavenquake> cpk1: normally in wlassistant it says "WLAN"
[03:03] <cpk1> hrmm
[03:03] <cpk1> ok well we can see if it works without editing any of that stuff ( i doubt it) do sudo ifup ra0 and then try wlassistant again
[03:04] <frootstripe> hi - recently i've been getting this msg when i update/upgrade --  W: Couldn't stat source package list -- i tried apt-get update but that didn't help
[03:04] <cpk1> also, I know nothing about wlassistant
[03:04] <BluesKaj> olsta , it depends on what he is trying to do  with fglrx driver ...he wants higher resolution on his screen ?
[03:05] <BluesKaj> or is it you , olsta ?
[03:06] <Heavenquake> cpk1: .. I'm online!
[03:07] <cpk1> Heavenquake: I have to say even though I havent gotten it working yet it seems I am pleased with the results so far, last time i tried getting this card to work it locked me up
[03:07] <cpk1> Heavenquake: it worked for you?
[03:07] <olsta> he want 3d support
[03:08] <Heavenquake> cpk1: It worked. I don't know how, it just worked. Said "Connection failed", and then suddenly just worked nevertheless
[03:09] <cpk1> Heavenquake: do me a favor and do iwlist scan and see if it scans for you
[03:09] <Heavenquake> cpk1: ra0 returns some stuff.
[03:09] <cpk1> Heavenquake: other networks?
[03:10] <Heavenquake> "interface doesn't support scanning" on the lot
[03:10] <cpk1> Heavenquake: so it says ra0 doesnt support scanning?
[03:11] <Heavenquake> cpk1: no, ra0 is the only one that does, it seems. "scan completed"
[03:12] <d34l3r> hi all
[03:12] <cpk1> Heavenquake: and shows information about other networks?
[03:12] <d34l3r> need some help I get this error when running Beryl and when i try to start glxgears: d34l3r@home:~$ glxgears
[03:12] <d34l3r> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:12] <Heavenquake> cpk1: 2 seconds, I'll pastebin the result
[03:13] <Heavenquake> cpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/362035
[03:14] <cpk1> Heavenquake: yeah looks like it can do scans, thanks guess I have some more work to do to get mine to work
[03:14] <d34l3r> ... Heavenquake
[03:14] <snikker> is possible to set the home dir when i lunch kdesu?
[03:14] <d34l3r> may u help me, too ?
[03:14] <cpk1> Heavenquake: but hey at least yours works now, I dont really need mine =P
[03:15] <Heavenquake> cpk1: and there was much rejoice
[03:15] <fritz> hey guys how do I enable my 6600 pci-e video card
[03:15] <angasule> !nvidia | fritz
[03:15] <ubotu> fritz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:16] <cpk1> Heavenquake: sorry it took so long but I was learning as I was going too =)
[03:16] <fritz> invidia
[03:16] <cpk1> even though I own the chipset i had never bothered trying it
[03:16] <d34l3r> got some Problem when running Beryl / glxgears: d34l3r@home:~$ glxgears
[03:16] <d34l3r> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:16] <d34l3r> << ATi RADEON 9600 XT
[03:16] <d34l3r> + xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:17] <mefisto__> whenever I click the application menu, the panel crashes. anyone have any ideas?
[03:18] <cpk1> Heavenquake: can you do me a a favor and pastebin the contents of /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat
[03:19] <tudza> I have a question about using krdc
[03:19] <weatherman> hi, what's a program to perform floating point decimal binary conversion?
[03:20] <Heavenquake> cpk1: 2 seconds
[03:22] <Heavenquake> cpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/362040
[03:22] <cpk1> thanks
[03:22] <Heavenquake> cpk1: and before I forget it: thank you very, very much for your help
[03:22] <cpk1> Heavenquake: no problem, now its time for me to crawl into bed =P
[03:23] <Krator> Whee, it works.
[03:23] <Heavenquake> cpk1: sleep well
[03:25] <Krator> I have just installed kubuntu, and this machine runs windows too. Do I have to install my video card drivers again?
[03:26] <Chaffinch> Krator: depends what video card you have
[03:26] <Krator> GeForce 7600 GS ?
[03:26] <Heavenquake> Krator: Propably... try running "glxgears" in Konsole, to see how good the gears are running
[03:27] <angasule> !nvidia | Krator
[03:27] <ubotu> Krator: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <Krator> yea, I saw that section, and I wondered if it applied to me :)
[03:27] <fritz>  what ubuntu has and kubuntu must be different
[03:27] <Krator> Hm, this is weird. Every time I click a link from here it attempts to re-load firefox.
[03:28] <fritz> I cant follow the directions they give me
[03:28] <fritz> why dont they give directs for people that use kubunto?
[03:28] <Krator> okay, I see some running gears. What do they tell me?
[03:29] <fritz> I got to managing repositories
[03:29] <fritz> the rest is so different I cant see what they are talking about
[03:30] <fritz> they want me to check 'restricted' and I dont have that option, at least its not where they say it is
[03:32] <Krator> fritz: I'm doing about the same now, and it's working without doing that part
[03:33] <Krator> although it's downloading 293M of files now :S
[03:33] <fritz> I see the full upgrade option. Do I do that?
[03:34] <Krator> I think I clicked that button
[03:34] <fritz> ok
[03:34] <Krator> not sure anymore
[03:34] <johny_> hey. Does someone of you use console unrar to extract files?
[03:36] <Blued0g> hey, does anyone know aything about xirc behind a firewall or proxy?
[03:36] <Blued0g> gaim works fine, as does mirc in windows, but xirc connects and doesnt receive or send messages
[03:38] <Jucato> johny_: unrar x filename.rar
[03:38] <Jucato> bbl...
[03:39] <BluesKaj> Blued0g, why bother with a fw or proxy , this is linux , unless yer on an office system ?
[03:39] <jaaroo> does ubuntu support LCD displays with pivoting? I would like to buy one and wonder if ubuntu can do resolution switching automatically.
[03:39] <johny_> Jucato: thanks, I knew it -:). The problem is I can't extract a multi file archive like (r00, r01) ecc.
[03:39] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Linux systems get hacked.
[03:40] <BluesKaj> Blued0g, konverstion is easier to use
[03:40] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Especially if you're not a security ninja, like maybe you're new to linux?
[03:40] <Krator> the command "sudo nvidea-xconfig" gives a ' not found'  error
[03:40] <fritz> wow, 235 mb
[03:40] <jhutchins> A minimal box running ipchains makes a great firewall.
[03:40] <BluesKaj> I'm behind a router , i guess that helps , jhutchins
[03:40] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Best if it's a seperate box from your main system.
[03:40] <jhutchins> So'm I.
[03:41] <Krator> fritz: I cancelled it
[03:41] <jhutchins> That was pretty much my first linux project
[03:41] <fritz> hey man did you download the nvidia driver?
[03:41] <jaaroo> Krator: nvidea? try nvidia instead :)
[03:42] <Krator> aarg.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> so jhutchins , you recommend that ppl with modems use FW and AV software in linux
[03:42] <Krator> ok, that gives an error too
[03:42] <fritz> cause I thinkyou will get that error if it is not downloaded
[03:42] <Krator> unable to load nvidea kernel driver
[03:42] <Krator> nvidia*
[03:44] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Um, a plain modem, no, you probably don't need a full firewall.
[03:44] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: AV only if you share with windows systems.
[03:45] <krille> hello, i wounder if there is any swedish IRC channel for ubuntu?
[03:45] <krille> kubuntu i mean
[03:46] <Jucato> !se
[03:46] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[03:46] <BluesKaj> Krator, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all&keywords=nVidia&sourceid=mozilla-search
[03:46] <dromer> hi, I'm trying to make a bootfloppy, but when i format the froppy with fdformat /dev/fd0 I get: Could not determine current format type: No such device
[03:46] <dromer> froppy=floppy :P
[03:47] <BluesKaj> yeah, jhutchins , we have windows pc on the network but it's also behind the router , and we use AVG on it
[03:48] <Krator> BluesKaj: ok, one of the files there is what I just installed. Which other one do I need?
[03:48] <Schuenemann> hi, what is the difference between the CD and DVD version?
[03:48] <rylasasin_> hi all whats up?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> Krator, for ?
[03:49] <Krator> Making my nvidia drivers work?
[03:50] <Krator> Had downloaded Package nvidia-glx via Adept
[03:50] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, the dvd comes with pkgs from the repos already loaded
[03:50] <Schuenemann> humm
[03:51] <BluesKaj> Krator, you said the glxgears cmd in the terminal works ?
[03:51] <Krator> yes
[03:51] <Krator> and it shows some gears
[03:51] <Krator> (but when it does, all other gfx things are really slow, though)
[03:51] <Jucato> glxinfo | grep render
[03:51] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, is that ISO generated periodically as those packages get new releases?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> does the box turn as well, krator , or just gears /
[03:52] <Jucato> glxinfo | grep direct
[03:52] <thomas_> salut a tous
[03:52] <thomas_> j'ai besoin d'aide
[03:52] <Schuenemann> !fr
[03:52] <thomas_> il y a un francais ici ?
[03:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:52] <Krator> just the gears as far as I can see.
[03:52] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, not sure , i would imagine so
[03:52] <Schuenemann> hmm I guess I'll stick with the CD
[03:53] <BluesKaj> then you don't have DRI set up , Krator..hang on
[03:53] <jhutchins> Krator: What some people miss is that if you run glxgears in a console window, you get information on the framerate there.
[03:54] <BluesKaj> Krator, http://www.albertomilone.com/latest_nvidia_udsf_edgy.html
[03:54] <fritz> can somebody help with my nvidia driver?
[03:55] <Krator> fritz: still trying the same as you
[03:55] <fritz> yeah, man. I have a very fast pc and it locked up on my while installing the upgrades
[03:56] <angasule> !games
[03:56] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:57] <Krator> BluesKaj, that website worked, until it tried to make me do ' sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[03:57] <fritz> Linux is cool and all, but getting it setup is real pain
[03:57] <Krator> which gave a ' command not found'
[03:59] <mefisto__> whenever I click the application menu, the panel crashes. anyone have any ideas?
[03:59] <angasule> ubuntugames.org is down? or doesn't exist?
[04:00] <Vincent_k> quick question: can anyone recommend and hdd based mp3 player that's compatible with linux
[04:00] <biohazard> # ubuntu.pl
[04:00] <biohazard> #ubuntu
[04:00] <fritz> ipod
[04:00] <fritz> sandisk
[04:01] <Vincent_k> I got the impression that ipod is a pain
[04:01] <fritz> it is when you try to mess with pics
[04:01] <Vincent_k> ok
[04:01] <Vincent_k> that's not something I'm gonna mess with
[04:01] <fritz> music works pretty good with amarok
[04:02] <fritz> I use it with my ipod
[04:02] <BluesKaj> sorry Krator , dunno
[04:02] <Vincent_k> ok is there support for ipod in amarok from the beginning
[04:02] <Vincent_k> or will I have to install and configure stuff?
[04:03] <Vincent_k> I mean can I just plug the ipod in and start useing it right away
[04:03] <fritz> I can actually plud the ipod  up to the pc and play the songs straight off the ipod through my pc speakers
[04:03] <fritz> yeah, I did. I just plauged it in
[04:04] <fritz> oops, I mean plugged
[04:04] <biohazard> #ubuntu .pl
[04:04] <angasule> what's the .pl ?
[04:04] <biohazard> #ubuntu pl
[04:04] <Vincent_k> I understand don't worry ;)
[04:04] <Jucato> !pl | biohazard
[04:04] <ubotu> biohazard: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:05] <biohazard> dzieki
[04:05] <biohazard>  wlasnie tam chce sie udac
[04:06] <Krator_> BluesKaj: I assume it was you who sent me something, but it crashed, so I didn't get it.
[04:07] <BluesKaj> Krator , I didn't send anything , just posted it in the channel
[04:08] <fritz> sad thing is, the picture option with the ipod is really cool, but Linux has had anyone make a program that can successfully put pictures on the ipod
[04:08] <fritz> and view them
[04:08] <fritz> I mean has not has
[04:09] <fritz> sheesh I cant type
[04:09] <fritz> HS NOT HAD
[04:09] <Krator_> Is there a way to avoid typing my password ten times per hour?
[04:09] <fritz> there we go
[04:09] <fritz> lol
[04:09] <angasule> Krator_: why do you have to type your password so much?
[04:10] <scoates> what is the first field in dmesg for? looks like this: [17269714.316000]
[04:10] <fritz> after you get things setup the way it suppose to be, you should have to put it in quite as often
[04:10] <Krator_> every time I load Kopete, and every time I load Adept
[04:11] <scoates> fritz: you can use   ipod://   in konqueror
[04:11] <fritz> kopete even?
[04:11] <fritz> yes, but have not had any luck with the pics
[04:12] <fritz> I can get them loaded, but they do not display on the ipod viewer
[04:12] <scoates> Krator_ right-click on the wallet in your kicker tray, then configure, and uncheck the "close when..." boxes
[04:12] <scoates> fritz: hmm.. I dunno. I gave up and installed rockbox
[04:12] <Krator_> GAH. Still saying that it's unable to load nvidia kernel driver.
[04:13] <fritz> scoates: does the pics work for you?
[04:14] <Zorix> any idea why konversation doesnt work with psybnc passwords
[04:15] <Zorix> says its invalid no matter what i put in.. and in other irc clients works fine
[04:15] <scoates> fritz: can't remember (-: I'm pretty sure you can sync pictures with kio_ipod, though (ipod://)
[04:15] <fritz> hmm, I'll try it
[04:16] <Krator> Whee. It works :)
[04:16] <fritz> congrads!!!
[04:17] <Krator> now what was the command for the cogs..
[04:20] <xenol> !wmv
[04:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:20] <Krator> BluesKaj, thanks for the help.
[04:20] <Vincent_k> My gf have an Ipod but I havn't dared pluggin it in om my kubuntubox
[04:21] <Vincent_k> dont wanna mess upp her playlists and stuff
[04:21] <dromer> can anybody help me do a network install on this ancient laptop of mine? I really want to make it a minimal install
[04:23] <Dutch_Canuck> does anybody know how I can get "/usr/bin/pkill -HUP java" to stop crapping out in my bash script?
[04:25] <xenol> can anyone help me how to enable audio preview and video thumbnails in konqueror?
[04:27] <fritz> can I get some help on loading nvidia drivers?
[04:28] <mefisto__> panel is crashing whenever I click the kmenu button. if I restart it with "sudo kicker", it works. But it's the default panel. How can I reset the panel so that kde starts with a working menu?
[04:29] <nagyv> hello! I would like to try out my backporting skills using jdong's howto and prevu, but prevu has some package requirements. Do I have to set them up one-by-one or to install them is enough?
[04:29] <rohan> hi .. how did kubuntu feisty get flash9 working in konqueror ?
[04:29] <BluesKaj> fritz, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[04:29] <Krator> OpenOffice.org help tells me to find a XF86Config file. Where is that one?
[04:29] <fritz> thanks
[04:30] <nagyv> Krator: under /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[04:31] <Jucato> er.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <Zorix> any idea why i cannot make windows only show up in the task bar of the desktop im on? after an update that option disappeared
[04:33] <Jucato> Zorix: right-click panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar options?
[04:33] <Zorix> yep
[04:33] <Zorix> was there
[04:33] <Zorix> not anymore
[04:33] <BluesKaj> Zorix, windows?
[04:33] <Zorix> well the tasks
[04:33] <Zorix> maybe its because of beryl or the nvidia drivers?
[04:33] <Vincent_k> fritz: wohoo it just work's and it work's beautyfully to :D
[04:33] <Vincent_k> ipod that is
[04:34] <Vincent_k> time to upgrade from my old creative muvo fm 512mb :D
[04:34] <mefisto__> anyone understand how the kmenu works?
[04:35] <nagyv> mefisto__: you click the button, and it opens up. Do you have a more specific question?
[04:35] <fritz> Vincent_k: grangrads friend!
[04:35] <fritz> Vincent_k: grangrads friend!
[04:35] <mefisto__> clicking the button crashes the panel. I'm trying to reset the panel to the default and start again
[04:36] <BluesKaj> beryl, bah humbug ...causes more probs than it's worth :)
[04:36] <fritz> Vincent_k: congrads friend!
[04:36] <fritz> I am trying to type with a 3 year old in my lap
[04:37] <scoates> why is it that top would show my CPU as 90% user, but the process list only shows 2 or 3 tasks that have > 0% user (and of those, they only add up to ~15%) ?
[04:37] <nagyv> mefisto__: a couple of think to try: 1) remove the kmenu button from the panel, 2) try to open it with the keyboard shortcut (alt-F1) (to see where is the problem)
[04:37] <Dutch_Canuck> any bash script pros in the house??
[04:38] <scoates> Dutch_Canuck: just ask
[04:38] <fritz> its lying
[04:38] <Dutch_Canuck> anybody know how I can get "/usr/bin/pkill -HUP java" to stop knocking out in my bash script?
[04:38] <scoates> fritz: heh.. ok, how can I ask it politely not to lie?
[04:38] <Lazydog> wondering if i might get some help here  when booting i get an error right after the kernel is uncompressed.  "invalid compressed format (err=2)"
[04:38] <Lazydog> doesn't matter what option i choose on the boot menu
[04:38] <scoates> Dutch_Canuck: "knocking out"?
[04:39] <mefisto__> nagyv: alt-F1 crashes panel too. Also, right-clicking and moving the mouse to "add application to panel" crashes it.
[04:39] <fritz> say please....while holding a recycling container     :o)
[04:40] <fritz> you got to give it a reason to tell the truth, man
[04:40] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[04:40] <scoates> fritz: should I bribe it with extra swap space?
[04:40] <Dutch_Canuck> yeah - the script starts ok until it gets to the "/usr/bin/pkill -HUP java" and then it errors out
[04:40] <Kr4t05> angasule: Hey, I figured out my Amarok/xine problem.
[04:40] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hi
[04:41] <angasule> Kr4t05: what was it? :?
[04:41] <mefisto__> nagyv: the problem seems to be that I can't access the app menu without crashing kicker
[04:41] <scoates> Dutch_Canuck: and what error does it give?
[04:41] <fritz> how big is your swap?
[04:41] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can someone help me with 3ddesk
[04:41] <Kr4t05> angasule: I had to delete ~/.xine/
[04:41] <Jucato> Antonio_Carlos_M: what about 3ddesk?
[04:41] <scoates> fritz: big.. the bribing was a joke...   but seriously, why would top lie?
[04:41] <Kr4t05> angasule: That fix everything... But now Amarok won
[04:42] <angasule> Kr4t05: ah, something was very wrong with xine, then :/
[04:42] <Kr4t05> won't match the rest of my KDE color-scheme.
[04:42] <fritz> honestly dude, that doesnt make sense
[04:42] <Kr4t05> But, that's a minor annoyance.
[04:42] <fritz> I really dont know
[04:42] <scoates> yeah.. not cool
[04:42] <nagyv> rename ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc to something else, and restart kde (or even better, log out, rename in the console, and log back)
[04:43] <nagyv> mefisto__: ^^
[04:43] <nagyv> mefisto__: finally you will get a new kicker config file
[04:43] <Dutch_Canuck> no error - it just doesn go any further than that
[04:43] <mefisto__> nagyv: thanks I'll try that
[04:44] <ElbridgeGerr1> I've installed KDE, but whenever I change my resolution to above 1152x768, my screen fills with garbage and such. Why is this?
[04:44] <Dutch_Canuck> i've tried putting it in quotes, without quotes - no joy
[04:45] <empiric> hi all
[04:45] <empiric> any idea why my konqueror is crashing
[04:45] <empiric> i have no idea why
[04:45] <empiric> how i cure that
[04:45] <mefisto__> nagyv: thanks, it worked. I didn't restart kde, just kicker, but I think it's fixed it.
[04:50] <mefisto__> nagyv: actually, it didn't work. got a new panel, but kmenu is still crashing it
[04:51] <nagyv> mefisto__: and you still can not remove kmenu?
[04:52] <nagyv> anyone using prevu here?
[04:52] <mefisto__> no, I can remove it, I just can't left-click to display it or alt-F1 without crashing the panel
[04:52] <nagyv> \join ubuntu
[04:54] <mefisto__> nagyv: if I restart the panel with "sudo kicker" it works normally. So I think it must be something in my ~/.kde directory
[04:54] <nagyv> mefisto__: definitely, but I don't know what. It will be probably under share/config or share/apps
[04:55] <Jucato> mefisto__: it only crashes if you try to launch the k menu?
[04:55] <mefisto__> yes, or if I right-click the panel, and hover the mouse over "add application to panel"
[04:56] <mefisto__> anything that displays the menu will do it
[04:56] <Jucato> must be something that was recently added to the k menu. what was the last app you installed?
[04:56] <mefisto__> I installed (then uninstalled) wine, but it didn't create anything in the menu
[04:57] <Jucato> mefisto__: ok try this. run "kbuildsycoca" in Konsole and ignore the error messages. then try launching the K menu again
[04:57] <mefisto__> what does that do?
[04:58] <Jucato> it rebuilds the KDE database and updates your k menu
[04:58] <mefisto__> still crashes
[04:59] <Jucato> ok, another approach. go to ~/.config/menus/ and move or rename the applications-kmenuedit.menu file
[05:00] <mefisto__> Jucato: that did it! thanks
[05:00] <Jucato> whew
[05:00] <mefisto__> no wait
[05:01] <Jucato> O.O
[05:01] <mefisto__> whatever is in lost + found is crashing it
[05:01] <Jucato> mefisto__: can you launch kmenuedit?
[05:02] <mefisto__> yes, but when the mouse gets to lost+found, it crashes
[05:02] <Jucato> hm...
[05:02] <mefisto__> in kmenuedit, there's nothing in lost+found
[05:03] <Jucato> weird...
[05:03] <abhinay> My memory stick got currupted, how can i fix it ?
[05:03] <abhinay> iam getting this error : Error: Unable to open /dev/sdb1 - unrecognised disk label
[05:03] <mefisto__> can I remove lost+found in the menu editor?
[05:04] <Jucato> mefisto__: can you check if there's a lost+found folder in ~/.local/share/applications/ ?
[05:05] <mefisto__> Jucato: no, there isn't
[05:06] <mefisto__> but at least I have the menu back
[05:07] <dhq> my win and capslock keys dont work it works on windows but not on kubuntu any help
[05:07] <LambSlayer> I've got a problem with swap it gives me invalid argument..
[05:07] <mefisto__> Jucato: let me try restarting kde, it might magically fix the lost+found weirdness
[05:08] <Jucato> mefisto__: er.. reinstalling isn't always the answer :)
[05:08] <Jucato> mefisto__: did you install something with wine?
[05:08] <mefisto__> Jucato: yes, I tried but it didn't finish installing
[05:09] <Jucato> it might be due to that... try checking in ~/.local/share/applications if there's a .desktop file that has the name of the app you tried to install using wine
[05:11] <mefisto__> Jucato: no, nothing unusual
[05:12] <Jucato> i'm out of ideas... another thing you could try would be: run kicker from Konsole so that you can see error messages when it crashes, and to create a backtrace when it crashes (using the kde crash handler dialog box)
[05:12] <mefisto__> oh wait!!!
[05:12] <mefisto__> I just noticed the menu editor didn't reflect the new menu
[05:12] <manligfe> Hey guys, I have a somewhat annoying issue. For some reason Xorg uses between 25 and 50% of my CPU constantly... I've been trying to find the cause but without success, I'm running edgy on an AMD 3500+ and with an ATI radeon x600 card and thus with the fglrx driers. Any suggestions are welcome
[05:12] <mefisto__> restarted menu editor and there's a bunch of things in lost+found (in menu editor)
[05:12] <Jucato> mefisto__: try running "kbuildsycoca" again to update the menu
[05:13] <Jucato> what are those bunch of things?
[05:14] <mefisto__> items I'd edited in the menu
[05:14] <Jucato> ah
[05:14] <manligfe> anyone?
[05:15] <mefisto__> Jucato: can I delete them in the menu editor?
[05:16] <Jucato> mefisto__: have you run kbuildsycoca after renaming/moving the applications-kmenuedit.menu file? and it still crashes? if the stuff in Lost+Found are not that important to you..maybe you can
[05:17] <mefisto__> I renamed applications-kmenuedit.menu, but it didn't get recreated.
[05:18] <Jucato> yeah. if you rename/move that file, the K Menu will revert to the default KDE settings for the K Menu.
[05:18] <Jucato> it would put your created menu entries probably in Lost+Found.
[05:18] <pjesi> is it possible that /etc/hosts is not read as the primary dns provider?
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> pjesi: probably, I'm not sure, but /etc/hosts is most likely a fallback
[05:20] <pjesi> well usually it is the first place to look for
[05:20] <pjesi> and besides it is not working as a fallback now
[05:20] <pjesi> (this was not the case before an update)
[05:22] <vignesh> Hi
[05:22] <vignesh> I have problem using google talk in kopete
[05:23] <vignesh> its not able to authenticate
[05:23] <mefisto__> Jucato: ok, I moved everything out of lost+found, and now it's crashing again
[05:23] <vignesh> Hi Jucato
[05:23] <Jucato> hi vignesh
[05:24] <vignesh> Jucato: remember me ?
[05:24] <rylasasin> anyone remember me? :P
[05:24] <Jucato> heh
[05:24] <vignesh> Heh
[05:24] <rylasasin> lol
[05:24] <vignesh> I know Jucato from #kde
[05:24] <Jucato> not so much... but I've had a lot of things in my mind lately that I forget even important things
[05:24] <Jucato> mefisto__: I'm out of ideas...
[05:25] <vignesh> Its me kdeuser
[05:25] <Jucato> mefisto__: you can try bringing it to #kde as they might have some answers
[05:25] <Jucato> vignesh: oh lol
[05:25] <Jucato> :P
[05:25] <rylasasin> I built this computer as  a school project... never thought I'd actually use it again :P... well untill my windows machine decided to take a s***
[05:25] <mefisto__> Jucato: you gave me plenty of clues. thanks
[05:25] <vignesh> Heh.. now he remembers..
[05:25] <Jucato> :D
[05:26] <vignesh> Jucato:  I have problem using google talk in kopete
[05:26] <Jucato> vignesh: have you followed the Kopete+Google Talk setup guide?
[05:26] <vignesh> link please
[05:26] <Jucato> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[05:26] <Jucato> you need to have qca-tls installed
[05:27] <vignesh> ok...ty
[05:28] <vignesh> also.. I use 0.11.x .. is there anyway to make it support conference`s ?
[05:28] <vignesh> A yahoo conference with more than one person
[05:29] <Jucato> you're on dapper?
[05:29] <vignesh> yes
[05:29] <Jucato> ah... hm..
[05:29] <Jucato> there are KDE 3.5.5 packages for Dapper
[05:30] <vignesh> you want me to update kde ?
[05:30] <Jucato> that might be the only way "safe" way to get Kopete 0.12.x
[05:30] <vignesh> Ah..
[05:30] <mefisto__> Jucato: got it. I deleted everything in lost+found, everything is normal
[05:30] <Jucato> mefisto__: oh. well, at least it works now :)
[05:31] <Jucato> bye