[08:29] <intelikey> exit code 2 from a version check   that's  not right.
[08:39] <paolo_> hi. how can i obtain "man 2 open" for example? man is actually applicable only for normal commands, but not for posix functions.... is there a package which i should download?
[08:39] <aziz> navets: hey, are you still there? if you couldn't solve the problem, just install Firefox + the Firebug plugin. you'll miss a lot if you don't use Firebug for web development.. it can show you which styles apply to which element...
[08:41] <intelikey> paolo_ there is an  "open"  but it's not installed by default   try  man openvt     but as to the Q  http://tldp.org
[08:41] <paolo_> intelikey: i mean ALL posix functions
[08:42] <intelikey> ubuntu uses a symlink from open to openvt  it's not a function.
[08:42] <intelikey> paolo_ and what are you calling  "ALL posix functions"  ?
[08:42] <intelikey> you mean bash builtins  ?
[08:42] <intelikey> man bash
[08:43] <intelikey> help help
[08:43] <paolo_> intelikey: if you don't know the answer you can't help me... google posix functions
[08:44] <intelikey> no thanks i'd rather just ignore you.
[08:45] <paolo_> intelikey: do what you want
[08:57] <intelikey> oh... i forgot i didn't have cron passwd or adduser installed.     heh     don't guess i need them...
[08:58] <korupt> i have a problem lol graphics
[08:58] <korupt> do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly.
[08:58] <korupt> Try running with LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH unset.
[08:59] <leks> hello
[08:59] <korupt> direct rendering: Yes
[08:59] <korupt> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI UniChrome (K8M800) 20060710 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2
[08:59] <leks> i'm fress user and have some questions..
[08:59] <korupt> i found this out with the string glxinfo | grep render
[08:59] <korupt> shoot away
[09:00] <korupt> leks go ahead
[09:00] <leks> installed ubuntu in kde interface, and don't know how to login as a root..
[09:00] <korupt> lol
[09:00] <korupt> you dont
[09:00] <korupt> you have sudo commands
[09:00] <leks> i know
[09:00] <leks> i type su
[09:00] <korupt> everything you need to use as root you will be prompted for
[09:00] <korupt> leks okay
[09:00] <intelikey> leks the ubuntu team don't want you to login as root.
[09:00] <korupt> do this your like me
[09:00] <leks> oh..
[09:01] <korupt> sudo passwd
[09:01] <intelikey> !sudo | leks
[09:01] <korupt> then type your password
[09:01] <korupt> you then will be able to use su
[09:01] <korupt> but be very carful dont run any programs under su
[09:01] <ubotu> leks: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:01] <korupt> YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
[09:01] <intelikey> leks                 you should read  &
[09:02] <korupt> intelikey do you know anything with my problem above
[09:02] <leks> thanks for link will read it in no time
[09:02] <leks> i also menaged to install firefox
[09:02] <intelikey> korupt let me reread it...
[09:02] <korupt> thank you
[09:02] <korupt> leks great job
[09:02] <leks> but there is no shortcuts in menu or something like that, where should i look for it?
[09:02] <korupt> okay here do this
[09:03] <korupt> right click desktop
[09:03] <korupt> create new link
[09:03] <korupt> Well Create
[09:03] <korupt> then newlink to application
[09:03] <intelikey> korupt sorry no.
[09:03] <korupt> intel its okay
[09:03] <korupt> then type in the command firefox
[09:04] <korupt> well it will be under application
[09:04] <korupt> then the command is firefox have fun
[09:04] <intelikey> !ff
[09:04] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:04] <korupt> rofl or do that
[09:04] <leks> my default web browser is konqueror
[09:05] <korupt> but if your just looking for a shortcut on the desktop do what i said
[09:05] <intelikey> leks yes but you installed the kde version of ubuntu  aka kubuntu
[09:05] <korupt> left click create new link to application click that
[09:05] <paolo_> "man 2" doesn't work on my ubuntu. which package should i download?
[09:06] <korupt> then when a box pops up you will see applications tab then type this into the command area firefox
[09:06] <intelikey> that doesn't change anything.   ff is still the default for ubuntu and the howto still applies
[09:06] <korupt> he said he couldnt find the shortcut
[09:06] <korupt> :P
[09:06] <korupt> if he follows the directions he will have one then he can click make default :P
[09:07] <mat1980> leks: to create a shortcut in the meny, exec kmenuedit and add with it
[09:07] <intelikey> or install menu and let it do it...
[09:08] <leks> um.. this trick with shortcut doesnt work ;/
[09:08] <intelikey> more than one method of epedurmal removal for the felion
[09:08] <intelikey> !doesn't work
[09:08] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:09] <korupt> rofl
[09:09] <korupt> man this channel should go comedy
[09:09] <intelikey> it isn't ?
[09:09] <korupt> leks explain
[09:09] <intelikey> :)
[09:09] <korupt> :)
[09:10] <leks> :)
[09:10] <intelikey> No manual entry for this
[09:10] <leks> typed firefox in a console
[09:10] <korupt> it should or just type this wow i broke my computer apt-get install firefox
[09:10] <leks> and it says It's not installed ;)
[09:10] <korupt> rofl
[09:10] <korupt> sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:10] <leks> so i typed sudo...installl and perhaps it will work now ;)
[09:10] <korupt> :)
[09:11] <korupt> precisely
[09:11] <korupt> if you come up with a error not found let me know we need one more step
[09:11] <leks> ok it works
[09:12] <leks> thanks a lot
[09:12] <intelikey> if you truely type firefox in a console  it wont work when it is installed.  it requires xorg and from a console you'd have to tell it what display to connect to...   :)
[09:12] <korupt> :)
[09:12] <korupt> no problem
[09:12] <intelikey> console != konsole
[09:12] <korupt> here is a headache
[09:12] <korupt> http://www.pastebin.ca/594983
[09:13] <korupt> i dont know what the heck is going on gears are fine but wine well its not so swell
[09:13] <intelikey> console = tty / vt     konsole = X terminal emulator
[09:13] <korupt> so lost lol
[09:14] <korupt> http://www.pastebin.ca/594985
[09:14] <dfeser> hi @all
[09:15] <niko1984> where can i get drivers for my synaptics touchpad ?
[09:15] <korupt> oh hogie sticks
[09:15] <dfeser> i just upgraded some krb5 packets and now my krb5-user is gone...reinstall is not possible because of version mismatch...
[09:16] <intelikey> how did you upgrade it ?
[09:16] <niko1984> laptop: hp pavilion dv6000 <-- where can i get drivers for synaptics touchpad ?
[09:17] <intelikey> try hp.
[09:17] <intelikey> dfeser how did you upgrade it ?
[09:18] <dfeser> the auto update of kubuntu did it
[09:18] <intelikey> dfeser fiesty ?
[09:18] <dfeser> yes yes
[09:18] <intelikey> hmmm
[09:18] <dufrp> weird, just installed gutsy-32, Internet seems to work fine, but not in konqueror
[09:19] <dufrp> using pppoeconf
[09:19] <intelikey> dufrp cat /var/log/dpkg.log    see which package
[09:19] <intelikey> ooops
[09:19] <intelikey> dfeser ^
[09:20] <FireHazard17> any one get compiz/compiz-fusion working on kubuntu feisty
[09:20] <intelikey> dufrp #ubuntu+1 may or may not know about that,  care to share it in there
[09:20] <mat1980> !compiz | FireHazard17
[09:20] <ubotu> FireHazard17: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <FireHazard17> ive read them im asking for your expirences
[09:21] <zander> hi
[09:21] <intelikey> FireHazard17 did you read carefully ?   or just skim  ?
[09:22] <zander> is that andrew as in andrew babb?
[09:22] <dfeser> can I let apt-get ignore dependencies?
[09:22] <intelikey> cause the infonode makes it clear that for help with that you need to be in #ubuntu-effects
[09:22] <mat1980> FireHazard17: I thought you was looking for help. I installed, but drop it after half hour.
[09:22] <niko1984> im kinda new to kubuntu, searched for synaptics in adept manager, alot of results.. what do i choose? :)
[09:23] <intelikey> dfeser you can force things  man apt-get   search for force
[09:23] <intelikey> dfeser but it's a good way to break your system
[09:23] <intelikey> !synaptic
[09:23] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:24] <niko1984> not synaptic, but synaptics touchpad
[09:24] <intelikey> niko1984 that package what you want ?
[09:24] <mat1980> niko1984: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:24] <niko1984> the touchpad is not working properly
[09:24] <intelikey> niko1984 oh.  linux-restricted*
[09:24] <mat1980> niko1984: oh... sorry
[09:25] <dfeser> apt-get only knows force-yes option which tells it to answer each question with yes
[09:25] <intelikey> it's propritary   they don't open source it
[09:25] <intelikey>  NDA  and all that raw you know.
[09:25] <intelikey> dfeser that's not so.  it knows several forces
[09:26] <intelikey> dfeser --force-all   is the most powerful of the lot
[09:27] <dfeser> E: Kommandozeilenoption --force-all wird nicht verstanden
[09:27] <dfeser> what means: command line option --force-all cant be understood
[09:28] <dfeser> i cant understand why there is an update for krb5 available that messes a kerberos setup up
[09:31] <intelikey> dfeser maybe it'e dpkg rather than apt that uses force   sorry for the miscue
[09:31] <intelikey> !dpkg
[09:31] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:31] <dfeser> no matter...
[09:32] <dfeser> but its real pain that an update messes my system up
[09:36] <intelikey> well that's what i get for using dpkg dirrectly so much.  it's dpkg that has the "very long list" of force *
[09:38] <NickPresta> Forgive this easily-researchable question: Where in /etc would I find the "config" file for my network. I remember this file showed things like each device (eth2 and eth3 in my case) and it showed my hostname and such.
[09:38] <intelikey> dfeser so.  find the specific package and do a force-downgrade  to install the one it replaced and file a bug on the update package
[09:40] <NickPresta> ah, nevermind. It was /etc/network/interfaces
[09:40] <intelikey>   NickPresta   beet me to it..  :)
[09:40] <dfeser> force-downgrade isnt even a apt-get function
[09:40] <NickPresta> intelikey, would you be able to assist me in a related question?
[09:41] <intelikey> dfeser yes i know that.  didn't i just explain it's dpkg ?
[09:41] <intelikey> NickPresta ask if i can answer i will.
[09:43] <NickPresta> In /etc/network/interfaces I have auto setup for eth0 and eth1. However, for eth2 and eth3 (the only interfaces that show up in system settings) I have setup a static IP. (<IP_ADDRESS>). Everytime I turn on the computer, both are "active" and I cannot actually connect to the internet when both are up. I have to go into system settings and disable one and re-enable the other. However, it's random each time t
[09:43] <NickPresta> he computer restarts so I'm not sure how I would go about making only one interface start at boot up. Would you need a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[09:44] <FireHazard17> whats etc stand for? ecetera?
[09:45] <rixxon> yep
[09:45] <intelikey> NickPresta sounds like you need to setup the interfaces file to NON auto   i.e. just a configuration so that it doesn't start them it just knows how.   but i'm pretty short on networking skills
[09:46] <rixxon> FireHazard17: hit alt+f2 and type #hier and press enter
[09:47] <FireHazard17> it say there is no man page for heir
[09:47] <NickPresta> intelikey, well, eth0 and eth1 are setup as auto (and setup as a dhcp connection). Since I am using a static address, eth2 and eth3 were setup for some reason. Do you think it would be wise to set eth2 _or_ eth3 to auto and have the other one "compensate"?
[09:47] <FireHazard17> of rier
[09:47] <FireHazard17> i cant speel
[09:47] <FireHazard17> lmao
[09:47] <FireHazard17> that was an accident
[09:47] <rixxon> hier existed?
[09:47] <FireHazard17> year
[09:47] <FireHazard17> yeah*
[09:48] <FireHazard17> its the man page for the linux filesystem heirachy
[09:48] <FireHazard17> thank you
[09:48] <rixxon> np
[09:48] <rixxon> FireHazard17: other interesting alt+f2 input: wp:fhs
[09:49] <rixxon> takes you to the wikipedia page of the filesystem hierarchy standard.
[09:49] <rixxon> (ain't kde super?)
[09:49] <intelikey> NickPresta i really don't know.  i know the less automatic the better i get along with it cause it's not trying to do things i didn't tell it to.   and actually when i have networking questions, normally no one in here at the time, i ask in ##linux    if no one in here can help with that try there.
[09:49] <NickPresta> intelikey, thank you. I will play around some more and then ask again in a few hours.
[09:50] <FireHazard17> it sure does
[09:50] <intelikey> networking help for NickPresta  ???
[09:50] <FireHazard17> and kde sure is
[09:50] <FireHazard17> i love it
[09:50] <FireHazard17> it actually seems like somthing that can compete comercially
[09:51] <rixxon> try kinfocenter, it lists some of the protocols you can input in alt+f2 and konqueror, some more in the search engines setup of konqueror
[09:51] <rixxon> actually you can ad your own protocols system wide, easily
[09:54] <NickPresta> intelikey, it's okay. It's 4am so I should be getting some sleep anyways. The problem only happens when I restart, which is not too often, so I don't mind if I don't get an answer ASAP.
[09:55] <NickPresta> intelikey, thank you though.
[09:57] <intelikey> NickPresta well that's the kind of help i normally get   heh     but then again my questions are not usually "where is the start button" type questions either.
[09:57] <Ray-> hello, I just installed the kubuntu but I'm having problems with the network, I'm behinde a router I put the IP <IP_ADDRESS> and the submask <IP_ADDRESS> and the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> but on kubuntu it says invalid gateway IP
[09:57] <intelikey> and you are right about it being an off time....
[09:58] <Ray-> I cann't have net on the kubuntu, and in the syslog there krenel log about connection.. whats going on?
[10:02] <Ray-> hmm
[10:02] <mat1980> Ray-: it seems to be a config problem. What command do you exec?
[10:02] <NickPresta> Ray-, would it be possible for Kubuntu to automatically detect your network settings? That is usually your best bet.
[10:03] <Ray-> it detect dhcp and I dont want a dhcp connection
[10:03] <Ray-> I get my connection from a router
[10:03] <Ray-> I set a manual IP
[10:04] <Ray-> the router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:04] <Ray-> aint should be the default gateway as well?
[10:04] <NickPresta> Ray-, open up a terminal a type: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfactes
[10:04] <mat1980> Ray-: yes, it should be.
[10:04] <NickPresta> interfaces**
[10:05] <Ray-> NickPresta: okey I have to restart coz I got only 1 PC and my Uni needs us to install the kubuntu
[10:05] <NickPresta> Ray-, hold on. There are more instructions
[10:05] <Ray-> yeah I know thats what I wanna tell you to give me everything so I can reboot and try it out
[10:07] <NickPresta> Ray-, when you type that in (write it down if you don't remember), you should see a bunch of stuff. You will need to find your connection (eth0, eth1, eth2, etc). It should say "iface eth# inet static" where # is your number. That is the interface which is setup to be static. Under it, you can fill in your address, netmask and gateway. Fill it in manually and then save. You should then be able to either rest
[10:07] <NickPresta> art X and have it work, it just have it work after your re-enable your interface in system settings
[10:08] <NickPresta> Ray-, if that doesn't work, you will have to come back here later when the channel is more lively and ask again. Someone else should be able to help you.
[10:08] <Ray-> how to restart X ?
[10:08] <NickPresta> Ray-, control+alt+delete
[10:09] <Ryiel_> ctrl alt backspace
[10:09] <Ray-> okey
[10:09] <Ray-> Thanks.
[10:09] <NickPresta> Ray-, sorry, control + alt + backspace. Not delete.
[10:09] <Ray-> okey :)
[10:09] <Ray-> I'll be back
[10:09] <NickPresta> Good luck
[10:15] <kripl> I have ati radeon X600 and I don't know how to install drivers for it. Can u give some good and simple tutorial ? tn
[10:21] <NickPresta> kripl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver (open source 'radeon' driver) or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI (proprietary driver). I suggest the proprietary driver.
[10:31] <eagles0513875> how do i get back from away
[10:31] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[10:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:31] <NickPresta> eagles0513875, type /away again
[10:32] <eagles0513875> lol im marked as being away still
[10:34] <Ray-> check this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27736/
[10:35] <Ray-> it needs a driver?
[10:35] <Ray-> like win thingies?
[10:35] <NickPresta> Ray-, you can ignore those errors.
[10:35] <Ray-> but I didnt five a static one all the dhcp
[10:35] <NickPresta> oh.
[10:35] <Ray-> find*
[10:37] <Ray-> can I edit it from dhcp to static or no?
[10:38] <NickPresta> Ray-, you have to change the top line from dhcp to: iface eth# inet static
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !away
[10:38] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[10:38] <NickPresta> Ray-, I will show you my file
[10:38] <Ray-> ok that will be good
[10:38] <NickPresta> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37788
[10:39] <kraut> moin
[10:39] <presroi> hello
[10:40] <presroi> I've got a rather bizarre sound problem
[10:40] <presroi> Kubuntu 7.04 was working fine with sound on a live-cd
[10:40] <presroi> and now, there is no sound any more
[10:40] <presroi> the dual-boot win xp is still playing sound and kubuntu seems to recognize the chipset
[10:40] <Ray-> ok I will try it out
[10:40] <Ray-> NickPresta: Thank you.
[10:41] <eagles0513875> presroi: i have duel boot and everythign except for wifi work out of the box for me
[10:42] <eagles0513875> what r the signs of a modem going bad
[10:42] <eagles0513875> cable modem
[10:45] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me if realtek supports linux
[10:46] <eagles0513875> hobbsee
[10:46] <eagles0513875> good morning
[10:46] <Hobbsee> it doesnt, iirc
[11:05] <rand_acs> anyone here know if it's possible to mount a ufs2 partition with rw? ro works fine, but I would like to have rw.
[11:06] <Eruantalon> In Kubuntu Feisty I can't seem to update mythtv-database: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[11:07] <Eruantalon> How do I choose which password apt-get uses for mysql or alternatively reset the root password?
[11:09] <dromer> how do I activate qemu's accelerator? kqemu
[11:20] <nathan> !dvd
[11:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:22] <praveen_> hey
[11:28] <praveen_> where will i find installed programs
[11:28] <praveen_> i mean on the file manager
[11:30] <psicobra> hi all
[11:30] <praveen_> hi
[11:31] <psicobra> any one know how to get flash working on kubuntu 64 bit?
[11:31] <psicobra> hi praveen_
[11:31] <praveen_> did u try usin wine ?
[11:32] <psicobra> wine?
[11:33] <psicobra> what do you mean?
[11:52] <faidillinger> whats a good software to make music using kubuntu ??? plz ?.
[11:53] <jarn> Is there a way to bring up the run command dialog from the command line?
[11:54] <faidillinger> will kubuntu help me get laid ?
[11:55] <jarn> faidillinger: I'm speaking from experience here - no. :(
[11:56] <psicobra> if you use any linux based OS the chances of you getting laid are pretty low
[11:57] <faidillinger> lol :(
[11:57] <psicobra> unlike me who is getting marride in 3 weeks
[11:57] <nathan> hello
[11:57] <jarn> psicobra is a Microsoft spy!
[11:57] <nathan> anyone fancy givin me a hand with DVD player?
[11:57] <psicobra> jarn: www.mslinux.org
[11:57] <jarn> No Linux user can develop a relationship with a female, so he must be from Microsoft!
[11:57] <psicobra> whuhahaha we are closing in
[11:58] <eagles0513875> hey nathan
[11:58] <eagles0513875> !offitopic | psicobra
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offitopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <psicobra> u see i developed my women skills whilst using windows
[11:58] <eagles0513875> !offtopic | psicobra
[11:58] <ubotu> psicobra: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:58] <nathan> eagles0513875: hey
[11:59] <eagles0513875> were u able to fix ur problem nat
[11:59] <eagles0513875> the one u had last night
[11:59] <psicobra> eagles0513875: he definatley isnt getting laid
[11:59] <eagles0513875> ur point
[11:59] <eagles0513875> good riddance
[11:59] <eagles0513875> bout to get an op on him
[12:00] <eagles0513875> nathan u still having that issue
[12:10] <arash> Hi!, I have three hardware "speakers", one is a speaker set and I have two headphones, though only one seems too be active/working? Anyone know how to fix it?
[12:18] <xbadger> hy guys I have a question: does anyone has a clue if kde4 can be shiped wit kubuntu 7.10?
[12:18] <eagles0513875> i dont think it is
[12:26] <eagles0513875> !kde4
[12:26] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[12:39] <Linux_Galore> well my fs corrupted and now Im on a live CD, have to get a new hardisk tomorrow and maybe install gutsy
[12:42] <Banjooie> So let's say I want KSnapshot to stop opening whenever I hit Print Screen.
[12:42] <Banjooie> How do I accomplish such fel shenanigans
[12:42] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore: have u tried running fsck
[12:42] <eagles0513875> try this fsck /dev/name of partition u want to check
[12:43] <nathan> eagle, iv installed libdvdread3 (althrough i dont see it in the start menu), it wont let me download the CSS package?
[12:43] <eagles0513875> what u trying to do nathan lol
[12:43] <eagles0513875> honestly that doesnt tell me vry much lol
[12:44] <nathan> lol.. ok i want to enable linux to play DVD's
[12:44] <nathan> ive been to the page stated when u put !dvd
[12:44] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: yeah, does a big dummy spit about 40% in
[12:44] <eagles0513875> lol it should do it out of the box nathan
[12:44] <eagles0513875> it does for me
[12:45] <eagles0513875> Lg how old is the drive
[12:45] <nathan> what prog does it?
[12:46] <eagles0513875> !dvd
[12:46] <eagles0513875> give me a min nathan
[12:46] <nathan> I got kaffeine, but when i press DVD, it says theres no plugin
[12:46] <eagles0513875> ok hold on
[12:46] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:46] <Banjooie> !ksnapshot
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksnapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <eagles0513875> nathan: have u downloaded libdvdcss2
[12:46] <eagles0513875> is that what u r tryign to download
[12:47] <nathan> yeah but it dint turn up in me start menu
[12:47] <eagles0513875> it wont
[12:47] <nathan> no
[12:47] <nathan> eeeh lol
[12:47] <nathan> ok i downloaded libdvdread3
[12:47] <eagles0513875> its just a library
[12:47] <eagles0513875> those r just libraries lol
[12:47] <nathan> lol..
[12:47] <eagles0513875> not programs lol
[12:47] <nathan> ok
[12:47] <eagles0513875> give me a min to search adept
[12:47] <Banjooie> So anyone? How to deactivate ksnapshot?
[12:47] <nathan> the command line
[12:47] <nathan> sudo
[12:48] <nathan> install-css.sh - comp dont find it
[12:48] <eagles0513875> that will be in a pkg
[12:48] <eagles0513875> wait
[12:48] <eagles0513875> nathan
[12:48] <eagles0513875> slow don a bit
[12:48] <eagles0513875> *down
[12:48] <nathan> ok
[12:48] <eagles0513875> open up a command line
[12:48] <nathan> done
[12:49] <eagles0513875> and do sudo apt-get install ogle
[12:49] <eagles0513875> that should play dvds for ya
[12:49] <nathan> dont needanything else for it no?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> if u need other dependencies it will list them as well
[12:49] <eagles0513875> when u type that
[12:49] <hanzz_> do you know some console program which can make charts like this one? http://soumar.netlab.cz/munin/netlab.cz/soumar.netlab.cz-jabber_cluster-day.png
[12:50] <nathan> ok
[12:50] <nathan> so what ogle a plug in for kaffeine or a program itself
[12:50] <eagles0513875> no
[12:50] <eagles0513875> program itself
[12:50] <eagles0513875> hanzz i know u can do charts using latex
[12:50] <eagles0513875> and hanzz u running ur own cluster
[12:51] <eagles0513875> nat let me know if that helps at all
[12:51] <nathan> don mean to bbe a pain but it dont show in start menu.. lmao.. if it does i cant see it
[12:51] <HanzZ> or some console app which can make chart from CVS for example... according to [X,Y]
[12:51] <eagles0513875> the try kaffine
[12:51] <eagles0513875> and see if it will play then
[12:51] <HanzZ> eagles0513875: it's not my cluster :) but i'm programming some apps for that community
[12:52] <eagles0513875> what community
[12:52] <eagles0513875> HanzZ: is ur name registered
[12:52] <HanzZ> yes
[12:52] <eagles0513875> may i pm ya
[12:52] <HanzZ> 'the best jabber server in our country :)'
[12:52] <eagles0513875> i pmed u
[12:53] <nathan> 12:52:27 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hdc<
[12:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:53] <eagles0513875> ok right click on the k
[12:53] <eagles0513875> and hit menu editor nath
[12:54] <nathan> yup
[12:54] <eagles0513875> click multimedia
[12:55] <eagles0513875> hold that thought
[12:55] <nathan> holding that thought
[12:55] <eagles0513875> right click on multimedia
[12:55] <eagles0513875> wait
[12:55] <eagles0513875> u still have command line open
[12:56] <nathan> yup
[12:56] <eagles0513875> type in ogle
[12:56] <nathan> its thinking
[12:56] <eagles0513875> see what it brings up and try play a dvd
[12:56] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:56] <nathan> u want the good bit or the bad bit lol
[12:57] <eagles0513875> both
[12:57] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:57] <nathan> good bits the program loads
[12:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:57] <eagles0513875> bad
[12:57] <eagles0513875> wont play
[12:58] <nathan> the bad bits either it wont play or my DVD drive is disconnected cuase it wont give me the disc back either lmao
[12:58] <nathan> 1 min
[12:58] <eagles0513875> is it internal or external
[12:58] <nathan> internal but i been inside it
[12:59] <eagles0513875> what u mean
[12:59] <eagles0513875> u took it apart
[12:59] <nathan> its connected... system eject works
[12:59] <nathan> i always takin it apart for some reason or another ll
[01:00] <eagles0513875> never do that to an optical drive like that
[01:00] <eagles0513875> how old is the drive
[01:00] <nathan> i dont mean i took the drive apart
[01:00] <nathan> lol
[01:00] <nathan> i meant the computer
[01:00] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:00] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:01] <nathan> didn't start DVD
[01:01] <nathan> however command line did return tis
[01:01] <nathan> : Found a scrambled PES packet! (1)
[01:01] <eagles0513875> dunno what that means
[01:02] <nathan> now its being plain bent lmao
[01:02] <faidillinger> how can i make firefox open a new message window (kmail) when i click on a mail adress (mailto:)
[01:02] <faidillinger> ??
[01:02] <eagles0513875> nathan how old is the dvd drive u have
[01:02] <nathan> not that old
[01:02] <nathan> works fine in XP lol..
[01:03] <eagles0513875> interesting
[01:03] <nathan> fairly new i believe about a year old or so
[01:03] <eagles0513875> nathan i dunno
[01:03] <eagles0513875> it could be a feisty bug
[01:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:03] <nathan> if it sez scrambled i guessin i need that CSS thing
[01:03] <eagles0513875> i gtg to lunch ill be on in a lil while
[01:03] <nathan> ok mate see ya later
[01:06] <djdarkman_> Why does amarok hog the entire sound output?
[01:07] <djdarkman_> I mean if I play with amarok I can`t use other apps that play sound
[01:07] <Banjooie> Because you're doing it wrong
[01:07] <djdarkman_> And how to do it right?
[01:07] <Banjooie> I've had programs compete with Amarok, you probably have oss set instead of alsa somewhere.
[01:07] <Banjooie> That's usually why.
[01:08] <djdarkman_> let`s see amarok uses alsa, smplayer is configured to use alsa... don`t see what I`m doing wrong
[01:09] <Banjooie> Hm.
[01:09] <Banjooie> That's....odd. I don't know, then, that's usually the only reason I ever have that problem.
[01:09] <djdarkman_> this is worst than my other problem, with udev that keeps maping my soundcards differently with every restart
[01:13] <mateo> Hi
[01:13] <mateo> im trying to upgrade to kubuntu-desktop
[01:14] <mateo> but apt says
[01:14] <djdarkman_> btw, does someone here undrestands udev?
[01:14] <mateo> python2.5-dev: Depende: python2.5 (= 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3) pero 2.5.1-0ubuntu1 va a ser instalado
[01:14] <mateo> E: Paquetes rotos
[01:14] <mateo> broken packages
[01:14] <djdarkman_> mateo: in english?
[01:15] <mateo> how can I take the messages in english ?
[01:16] <mateo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:16] <mateo>   python2.5-dev: Depends: python2.5 (= 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3) but 2.5.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:16] <mateo> E: Broken packages
[01:16] <mateo> done
[01:17] <djdarkman_> mateo: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:21] <mateo> apt-get -f install
[01:21] <mateo> Reading package lists... Done
[01:21] <mateo> Building dependency tree
[01:21] <mateo> Reading state information... Done
[01:21] <mateo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:21] <mateo> im now in ubuntu btw
[01:21] <mateo> trying to upgrade with 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[01:25] <mateo> any idea ?
[01:30] <fritz> do components installed with crossover installer cease to function if you iuninstall the crossover manager?
[01:30] <balaji> how to check whether the wireless lan is working or not?
[01:32] <balaji> anybody can help?
[01:37] <mike> balaji: is there an eth1 entry in your network settings ?
[01:38] <Ace2016> why use crossover
[01:38] <Ace2016> just use seamless xp in linux
[01:58] <lovely> Does anyone know why the device driver would keep old usb drive connects in the que that do not go abywaere? I have but one and now it is called usbdrive-4. usbdrive thru usbdrive-3 go nowhere and connect with nothing. these are visable in the GUI as well as with a terminal. in the terminal when asked  'cd /media/usbdrive-2'   no such directory.
[01:59] <agu__> hey
[02:06] <leonardo> blabla
[02:07] <leonardo> ......
[02:07] <lovely> is ther a wasy to maunually mount or unmount a drive?
[02:07] <lovely> way
[02:12] <posingaspopular> lovely:
[02:12] <lovely> how do I manually mount and dismount a drive?
[02:12] <posingaspopular> opps. lovely: mount /something or another
[02:12] <posingaspopular> hang on, let me pull up the guide
[02:12] <lovely> thank you.
[02:12] <posingaspopular> !mount
[02:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:12] <gnomefreak> who wants to crash konq for me
[02:12] <posingaspopular> !diskmounter
[02:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:12] <gnomefreak> to see if it crashes
[02:13] <gnomefreak> posingaspopular: please use /msg ubotu
[02:13] <posingaspopular> gnomefreak: yes sorry. its been awhile since i've used the bot
[02:16] <posingaspopular> lovely: this should be the guide. let me know if you need more help. https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/user-guide/C/gosnautilus-460.html
[02:18] <joaquin> hola alguien me puede decir el servidor espaol
[02:18] <posingaspopular> !es
[02:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:19] <lovely> posingaspopular: thank you I will look there, right now it is a mount failure code 32
[02:20] <Maxdamantus> Uhh.. How do you install a .deb file with apt-get again?
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> Nvm.
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> -i
[02:23] <posingaspopular> lovely: i have no idea what that means, but i can ask my brother to take a look at it if you still have trouble in a few
[02:25] <lovely> posingaspopular: ok I actually have two problem that I think may be interelated. one is the cdrom stoped working. that is the code 32 when In try to mount.   two is the usbdrive wich the system settings does not show multiples, I am going to try to unmount them in terminal.
[02:26] <posingaspopular> lovely: what command are you using to unmount?
[02:27] <lovely> !diskmounter
[02:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:27] <lovely> oops
[02:30] <posingaspopular> yea you can't do it with a !command. you have to go to help.ubuntu.com and search from there
[02:31] <lovely> posingaspopular: I dont have one at the moment, but tried lovely@Hermes:/media$ mount /cdrom   mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified     lovely@Hermes:/media$ mount /cdrom0   mount: can't find /cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:32] <lovely> Searching
[02:33] <posingaspopular> what does 'ls usb' tell you
[02:37] <lovely> posingaspopular: ls: usb: No such file or directory
[02:37] <posingaspopular> !paste
[02:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:37] <lovely> posingaspopular: found nothing to help, only to help mount
[02:37] <frantek> hi
[02:37] <posingaspopular> !hi
[02:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:39] <lovely> posingaspopular: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27759/
[02:39] <lovely> posingaspopular: I have but one cdrom and one usbdrive
[02:41] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27760/
[02:41] <posingaspopular> that's mine
[02:41] <posingaspopular> my ipod is plugged in, a mouse, not sure the rest
[02:42] <posingaspopular> is it unmount or umount?
[02:42] <posingaspopular> would that make a difference?
[02:43] <frantek> i've a kdm/nfs problem: i've a nfs mount (mounted by fstab) where the user homes (and other data) are located. when a user logs off (kde) the nfs mount is unmounted too. i do not know why. i've many systems some dapper some edgy. only the edgy - only the edgy clients show this ... how can i prevent the nfs mount from being dismounted - i'm absolutely clueless :(
[02:44] <lovely> posingaspopular: umount: usbdrive-1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[02:44] <posingaspopular> and mount usbdrive-1 does what?
[02:45] <lovely> posingaspopular: mount: can't find usbdrive-1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:47] <posingaspopular> lovely:
[02:48] <posingaspopular> oops. sorry. i have no idea. im trying to see if there's anyone in the room atm who can help you, but i dont recognize any nicks. i duno what to tell you
[02:49] <Djservers> yo
[02:49] <Djservers> havent bin here for long my pc chrashed :P
[02:50] <lovely> posingaspopular: thxs for attempting
[02:50] <UbuntuFeisty> kate or kedit for text editor?
[02:51] <posingaspopular> Hobbsee: are you around?
[02:52] <Djservers> !ubotu
[02:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:53] <icecruncher> !sourceomatik
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourceomatik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <icecruncher> !sourceomatix
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourceomatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <ardchoille> !easysource
[02:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:54] <icecruncher> thnks
[02:55] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:01] <eagles0513875> hobb
[03:01] <eagles0513875> hobsee may i pm ya plz
[03:02] <eagles0513875> im getting really upset
[03:03] <eagles0513875> ive isolated my connection issue to my house my cousins net connection is fine
[03:03] <UbuntuFeisty> ubotu: PT
[03:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:06] <eagles0513875> any one from malta
[03:09] <Djservers> just format my harddisk now on live cd
[03:14] <dany_21> hello room, does KDE (or any service) deletes files from the thumbnail-cache (~/.thumbnails/) sometimes?  bec. most times, if I access pictures from my hardrive, the thumbs have to be recreated, although I have not changed/touched the pictures
[03:15] <blackangel> hello all
[03:18] <paolo_>  Hi. how can i pipe a string to a process with a precise pid?
[03:19] <redha> hi guys, how does one add programs to startup??
[03:19] <IppatsuManXYZ> redha: put a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:19] <redha> symbolic link?
[03:20] <IppatsuManXYZ> yes, if you like it
[03:23] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: I don't think it's possilbe unless the target process uses a named pipe or something like that
[03:24] <redha> lppatsuManXYZ: Thanks man :)
[03:24] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: I was wrong :P
[03:25] <IppatsuManXYZ> try to redirect the deired output to /proc/pidofprocess/fd/1
[03:25] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: ?
[03:25] <IppatsuManXYZ> *desired
[03:25] <paolo_> mmm
[03:25] <paolo_> well let's try
[03:26] <IppatsuManXYZ> wrong again, stdin is 0, not 1
[03:31] <hello_> ls
[03:34] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: unfortunately it didn't work
[03:34] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: probably the best solution is to use named pipes
[03:35] <paolo_> fifos?
[03:35] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: ?
[03:37] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: a named pipe allows to create a special file that can be used as output for a process and as input for another process
[03:37] <IppatsuManXYZ> it "gives a name" to standard input and standard output of a process
[03:38] <IppatsuManXYZ> man mkfifo, it's easier to understand than me :P
[03:40] <paolo_> i did man 2 fifo:)
[03:40] <paolo_> ok
[03:41] <Linracoon> how can i with apt-get remove a package without checking dependencies?
[03:43] <msetim> Hi
[03:45] <msetim> how can I install the spcaxx? I have a webcam and I would like use it.
[03:46] <mat1980> msetim: it should be already installed.
[03:46] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: i don't understand yet. is this the correct way of proceeding?   mkfifo fifosname;   cat fifosname | someprocess and in another terminal  echo blahblah > fifosname
[03:46] <paolo_> ?
[03:47] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: yes, that should work
[03:47] <kamui> I can't get suspend or hibernate to work.  Suspend locks up my laptop, and hibernate just doesn't do anything.  Where should I look to try and figure out whats going on when I execute the s2ram command to find out whats locking up my laptop before it can suspend
[03:48] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: unfortunately it doesn't:)
[03:48] <msetim> mat1980: Nope :) My kopete don't detect my webcam.
[03:49] <mat1980> msetim: try sudo modprobe spcaxx
[03:50] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: great
[03:50] <paolo_> it worked!
[03:50] <IppatsuManXYZ> good :)
[03:51] <mat1980> msetim: uhm... the module's name should be gspca (the new versione of spca5xx), so  sudo modprobe gspca
[03:54] <msetim> mat1980: I'm installing it now :)
[03:56] <killux> how can I make fluxbox the WM of the KDE suite?
[03:58] <Pensacola> is there a way to configure the media keys on a keyboard in kubuntu?
[03:59] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: is there a command which flushes the fifo?
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok still won't launch, and their channel's about as helpful as hellen keller.
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> helen*
[04:00] <timte> How do I get a PDF printer in Firefox?
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: "print to pdf"
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> wait
[04:00] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: as far as I know, no. Try to echo a blank line to the fifo.
[04:01] <timte> Daisuke_Ido: but I see no such option
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> print a file to pdf, or actually print a dead tree copy OF a pdf?
[04:01] <IppatsuManXYZ> timte: you can choose "print to file" and convert the resulting .ps file to .pdf
[04:01] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: echo ...? .... > fifosname ?
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: what are you printing from?
[04:01] <IppatsuManXYZ> timte: or you can install cups-pdf and it'll create a virtual printer that firefox can use
[04:01] <timte> Daisuke_Ido: Firefox
[04:01] <killux> how can I make fluxbox the WM of the KDE suite?
[04:01] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: echo > fifosname
[04:02] <paolo_> ok
[04:02] <IppatsuManXYZ> (if you don't pass any argument, echo will just echo a \n)
[04:02] <timte> IppatsuManXYZ: I installed that actually, but Firefox doesn't show anything extra
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: honestly, it would be easiest to do that from konqueror
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> and IppatsuManXYZ: FF doesn't do pdf.
[04:03] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: it doesn't work
[04:03] <IppatsuManXYZ> timte: did you executed sudo chmod +s /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf ?
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> IppatsuManXYZ: FF will still not have the option.
[04:04] <IppatsuManXYZ> Daisuke_Ido: I print web pages to pdf using cups-pdf all days
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: i still recommend using konqueror to do the pdf printing
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> !worksforme | IppatsuManXYZ
[04:04] <ubotu> IppatsuManXYZ: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:05] <Daisuke_Ido> not entirely applicable, but close enough.
[04:10] <mneisen> Hi, after solving my troubles with my boot partition (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman/+bug/122563 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484030) I still have a problem with unresolved dependencies when upgrading the kernel (see http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/27769/). Anybody know how to fix this?
[04:10] <SeanTater> What's a good graphica benchmark? Like something other than glxgears?
[04:10] <SeanTater>  /graphics/
[04:12] <BluesKaj> I see google desktop search for linux is available : http://desktop.google.com/linux/download.html
[04:13] <IppatsuManXYZ> wait for KDE4 and strigi
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> #amarok's useless :\
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> as are amarok's error messages
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> Amarok: [Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?
[04:15] <paolo_> IppatsuManXYZ: i've found the problem but, in order to solve it i have to retrieve the file descriptor of the fifo
[04:15] <paolo_> how can i do?
[04:17] <Kazade> is it possible to add stuff to the right-click menu in the KDE 3.5.x version of dolphin ?
[04:17] <SQUALL2> hasan2 where r u?
[04:18] <IppatsuManXYZ> Daisuke_Ido: does strace'ing give a more helpful message?
[04:20] <kamui> funk
[04:21] <balaji> how do i make .avi files run in vlc or in general in linux
[04:22] <kamui> suspend just wont work
[04:22] <kamui> crap crap crap
[04:24] <balaji>  how do i make .avi files run in vlc or in general in linux
[04:24] <IppatsuManXYZ> paolo_: no ideas about that, you can try looking for it under /proc, but I don't think it's a good idea
[04:24] <Arwen> ah man.... my /home partition is starting to get so fragmented that my videos are skipping....
[04:24] <IppatsuManXYZ> !Codecs | balaji
[04:24] <ubotu> balaji: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <jhutchins> Arwen: What filesystem?
[04:27] <Arwen> jhutchins, ext2/3
[04:28] <icecruncher> what is the bes way to format a disk in command line (fat32)
[04:28] <icecruncher> ?
[04:28] <Arwen> mkfs.vfat -F 32
[04:29] <icecruncher> Arwen: mkfs.vfat -F 32 <device> ? do you need to unmount the partition?
[04:29] <Arwen> yes and yes
[04:30] <icecruncher> Arwen: thnks
[04:31] <icecruncher> Arwen: need to be  root?
[04:31] <Arwen> icecruncher, duh? lol
[04:31] <icecruncher> Arwen: lol
[04:32] <Al-Bundy> LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL
[04:32] <Arwen> ...
[04:33] <Arwen> it's really starting to piss me off
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: i feel your pain.
[04:34] <Arwen> then again, now that I think of it, it could be that my swap is stealing HD performance... hmm...
[04:34] <llutz> Arwen: defrag doesn't work?
[04:35] <Arwen> llutz, the only way to defrag an ext partition is to delete it, make a new one, and restore from backup...
[04:35] <llutz> Arwen: nope, defrag can defrag ext2-filesystems
[04:35] <timte> IppatsuManXYZ: I hadn't, but I have now and no difference
[04:35] <Arwen> yes.... but only ext2 ones... and not safely
[04:35] <llutz> Arwen: ext3 cleanly unmounted = ext2
[04:36] <Arwen> llutz, uh, no, in fact, it says on defrag's page that you should never try to use it on an ext3 fs
[04:36] <Arwen> because of some extra flags in newer revisions
[04:36] <dr_willis> I cant recall ever needing to use defrag.
[04:36] <llutz> Arwen: only think can happen is, that you lose you logs
[04:36] <Arwen> either way, it's not worth it since you have to do it offline...
[04:36] <timte> Daisuke_Ido: I'd like to use konqueror too, but the site I need this for complains that the browser isn't secure enough
[04:36] <Arwen> might as well start fresh if I have to boot a Live CD
[04:38] <Ze_M> i have deleted and readded a user but now says doesnt belong to passwd and i cant enter admin mode,how can i resolve this?
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> timte: print to PS and convert to pdf, i suppose
[04:39] <dr_willis> You mean deletted/readded your FIRST sudoer user?
[04:39] <Ze_M> dr_willis: yes
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> that wasn't a good idea.
[04:39] <dr_willis> some how get to the existing install and edit the groups file. and perhaps the sudoers file.
[04:40] <Ze_M> dr_willis: how if i dont have root acess?
[04:40] <dr_willis> admin:x:117:YOURUSERNAME
[04:40] <dr_willis> thats what a live cd  will let you do.
[04:40] <Ze_M> a live cd?
[04:40] <Arwen> Ze_M, from a live cd, or from recovery mode
[04:40] <Arwen> .......
[04:40] <balaji> k thank u
[04:40] <dr_willis> yes. a live cd... OR use the reovery mode, or make it boot to single user mode.
[04:40] <icecruncher> ok, my entire desktop ust froze, any suggestions?
[04:40] <Ze_M> i have to run the live cd and then run admin:x:117:YOURUSERNAME from console?
[04:40] <ksivaji> balaji hi man how are you ?
[04:41] <MitchM> I cannot see taskbar items on my launcher
[04:41] <RytmenPinnen> How do I install .package?
[04:41] <dr_willis> No.. you EDIT THE GROUPS file and put that line in there.
[04:41] <MitchM> minimized windows are just ... not there in KDE
[04:41] <Ze_M> dr_willis: how do enter recovery mode?
[04:41] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  an autopackage file? theres a web site that has some command ya need to run i recall to get them working
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> Ze_M: LIVE CD
[04:41] <MitchM> (i still however have the regular menu buttons on my taskbar)
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> ffs
[04:41] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  it says "recovery mode" right there on my GRUB menu.
[04:41] <RytmenPinnen> maby that's what it is
[04:41] <MitchM> Any ideas?
[04:42] <Ze_M> dr_willis: reboot to recovery mode
[04:42] <dr_willis> Ubuntu (whatever)  then Ubuntu (reovery mode)
[04:42] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I think there's an autopackage software
[04:42] <Ze_M> dr_willis: whats the file to edit
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> no, really?  i can't imagine the autopackage format would have software to install files of that format...
[04:42] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  /etc/groups
[04:43] <dr_willis> i forget the proper command to add the groups - i rarely mess with them.
[04:43] <Ze_M> dr_willis: and /etc/passwd?
[04:43] <MitchM> groupadd ?
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> why the eff would you touch /etc/passwd?
[04:43] <Ze_M> dr_willis: when i try to enter sudo mode says that the user doesnt exists in  /etc/passwd
[04:43] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  if you readded the user. hes just not ion the proper admin group. thats the whole problem
[04:43] <MitchM> Ze_M, groupadd --help
[04:44] <llutz> adduser user group
[04:44] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  then you dident add the user right would be my guess
[04:44] <Ze_M> dr_willis: i did do it through kuser
[04:44] <MitchM> Anyone know why I cant see open programs on my taskbar??
[04:44] <MitchM> or minimized programs either?
[04:44] <MitchM> or my other desktops?
[04:44] <Ze_M> Ze_M: so i just need to edit /etc/groups?
[04:45] <IppatsuManXYZ> MitchM: right click on a free spot of the bar and choose "add applet to panel"
[04:45] <MitchM> Ze_M: correct
[04:45] <Ze_M> ok
[04:45] <dr_willis> MitchM,  either you tweaked your  program/panel/taskbar settings.. or got somthing else confuised.. Try a new user. see if it works for them.  You could perhaps reset your kde settings by removing the proper files from the .kde dir.
[04:45] <IppatsuManXYZ> then look for "taskbar" and add it
[04:46] <MitchM> dr_willis: this is how it was from live cd -> install
[04:46] <dr_willis> MitchM,  odd. Create a new user. see if it works right for them.
[04:46] <dr_willis> If it dosent.. then theres some bigger issue going on
[04:46] <MitchM> *nods*
[04:46] <MitchM> already checked bugs in launchpad
[04:46] <MitchM> will try a new user though
[04:47] <ksivaji> can i install oracle in kubuntu...
[04:47] <dr_willis> can you install it in linux? or debian? :) if so proberly can.
[04:48] <ubuntu_> guys
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> what
[04:48] <dr_willis> Gee.. couldent come up with a better nick? :)
[04:49] <ksivaji>   dr_willis     fine using wine or normal installation
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> add another underscore, your nick isn't quite bad enough yet.
[04:49] <dr_willis> oracal with wine... scary....
[04:49] <Ze_M> dr_willis: in boot i dont have any recovery mode, after hitting tab key appeared: linux, old, hda4-ubuntu and hda6-Linux
[04:49] <Ze_M> i have feysty ppc
[04:49] <dr_willis> old? what all ya got isntalled on that thing.. heh...
[04:49] <dr_willis> ppc? eww.. Hmm... Im not even sure if you are using GRUB or not.
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> oracle is available for linux, no?
[04:49] <dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  no idea. :)
[04:49] <Ze_M> dr_willis: no, isnt grub
[04:50] <Ze_M> or at least i dont have any boot graphic menu
[04:50] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  then you  need to learn how to 'edit' the boot lines from your boot loader.. or use a live cd.
[04:50] <dr_willis> edit the boot menu kernel= line.. add 'single' to the end. and boot it.. if you can.
[04:50] <sumigamer> guys in the default kubuntu desktop, how do I replace the K menu logo with the kubuntu logo ( like in other KDE based distros??)
[04:50] <dr_willis> that should get you to a root shell.
[04:50] <Ze_M> dr_willis: so after entering with livecd, how do i access the installed files?
[04:51] <dr_willis> Ze_M,  you mount the local drives and then  edit the /etc/whatever files with root permissions.
[04:51] <Ze_M> dr_willis: you said /etc/groups
[04:51] <dr_willis> you are at least rembering then. :) A+
[04:51] <msetim> I have a kayomi usb wireless and I would like to use it on my kubuntu, How can i know if it is compatible?
[04:51] <sumigamer> guys in the default kubuntu desktop, how do I replace the K menu logo with the kubuntu logo ( like in other KDE based distros??)
[04:52] <Ze_M> dr_willis: do i need to edit more files?
[04:53] <dettoaltrimenti> How can I get kopete from asking for a password from the kde wallet? I don't have the wallet installed, and can't find any way to turn it off from kopete's configure
[04:54] <lupul> hi there. please someone tell me what's the name of the kde icons package!
[04:54] <Arwen> crystalsvg I think
[04:54] <ksivaji> Arwen kde-look.org
[04:55] <tmbg> so I just updated my 'nvidia' driver (the accelerated one). is there a way to switch to it without rebooting?
[04:55] <llutz> tmbg: restart X
[04:56] <tmbg> ah.
[04:56] <ardchoille> dettoaltrimenti: You need to modify the individual account, there's a "Remeber password" option in each account.
[04:56] <tmbg> llutz, how do I check the version # I'm currently on?
[04:57] <dettoaltrimenti> ardchoille, I have all those passwords saved, it still asks me for my kde wallet password
[04:57] <ardchoille> tmbg: lsb_release -a
[04:58] <tmbg> that didn't really tell me anything.
[04:58] <ardchoille> dettoaltrimenti: Hmm, I don't know then. I have those "Rember password" options checked in each account and kopete never asks me for a password. I have the kwallet disabled.
[04:58] <Derminator> HI... Can someone say me, how to restart the Soundserver without rebooting?
[04:58] <ardchoille> tmbg: lsb_relase -a should tell you a lot of info about your release.
[04:58] <llutz> tmbg: aptitude show nvidia-glx-new (-legacy)
[04:58] <tmbg> doesn't tell me my nvidia driver version.
[04:59] <ardchoille> tmbg: Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. My bad.
[04:59] <tmbg> np
[05:01] <jhutchins> Arwen: So I thought ext wasn't supposed to fragment?
[05:02] <jhutchins> Arwen: Don't remember ever seeing a defrag tool for it.
[05:02] <Arwen> jhutchins, everything fragments.
[05:02] <Arwen> ext just doesn't have a defragment
[05:02] <Arwen> it's not as excessive as FAT, but when your partition free space approaches 0...
[05:02] <Derminator> Hello, can someone please say me, how to restart the soundserver without rebooting the pc? please privat!
[05:05] <ubuntu_> iuo
[05:05] <tmbg> Arwen, how is stuff defragged or is it at all?
[05:05] <ubuntu_> the ponitn fer manyh porra
[05:06] <tmbg> b/c I have some files like this: 13708 extents found, perfection would be 6 extents, reported from filefrag.
[05:06] <RytmenPinnen> umm, is there a .dev search site?
[05:06] <icecruncher> help, konq dolphin keep stalling when I open them, as in they wont display any contents in any folders
[05:07] <Arwen> tmbg, you don't defrag. You delete partitions and restore from backup :-\
[05:07] <RytmenPinnen> I'm trying to install autopackage but I can only find rpms
[05:07] <Arwen> RytmenPinnen, autopackage = fail
[05:07] <tmbg> Arwen, 3rd party tools maybe?
[05:07] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  last i looked ther ewas an actual 'auto package' site that had somthing you installed first.
[05:07] <dr_willis> http://autopackage.org/
[05:07] <dr_willis> google to the rescue
[05:07] <Arwen> tmbg, no, there's just an old version of defrag2fs which doesn't really work no more and isn't terribly safe
[05:07] <RytmenPinnen> k :)
[05:07] <jhutchins> !autopackage
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <dr_willis> Not to say that autopakcages WORK very well
[05:08] <dr_willis> and they are unsupported by ubuntu, and about any other disrto out
[05:08] <tmbg> sucks.
[05:08] <Arwen> autopackage is one of the worst things that have ever come to Linux :-\
[05:08] <RytmenPinnen> haha
[05:08] <jhutchins> Given significantly different system layouts.
[05:08] <dr_willis> then theres that 'klik' pcakages :)
[05:08] <RytmenPinnen> is there anything that's ever gonna replace rpm and .deb?
[05:08] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: There's probably a better way to do whatever it is you're after.
[05:08] <RytmenPinnen> its kind of annyong when I sometimes just find rpms for apps I want
[05:08] <dr_willis> http://klik.atekon.de/
[05:09] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  what app may this be?
[05:09] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: Learn to build packages for your distro from tarballs.
[05:09] <RytmenPinnen> warzone 2100 , a game :)=
[05:09] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: It's far better than trying to convert a package meant for a different distro.
[05:09] <Arwen> !packaging | RytmenPinnen
[05:09] <RytmenPinnen> aha, But I almost allways succeds installing tarballs without problem
[05:09] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[05:09] <Arwen> get to work now
[05:10] <RytmenPinnen> :)
[05:10] <ksivaji> !info sql
[05:10] <ubotu> Package sql does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:10] <dr_willis> I recall seeing warzone in some debs I think.
[05:10] <dr_willis> but i may be confused. :)
[05:10] <jhutchins> RytmenPinnen: Every time you install a tarball without making a deb first, you break the package manager.
[05:10] <ksivaji> !sql
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <RytmenPinnen> O.o
[05:10] <nathan> anyone good with DVD? i got ogle, but when i try and run a DVD it console says scrambled PES packet
[05:10] <dr_willis> its highly likely i just installed the tar.gz for my user. and that was it...
[05:11] <dr_willis> proberly was. I recall playing the game for all of... 10 min. :)
[05:11] <Arwen> nathan, ....good with dvd?
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> I normally just do sh install if there's an install file
[05:11] <dr_willis> so installed it for the local user. and dident have to mess the system up
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> and the app installs itself :)
[05:11] <nathan> good with getting a player working .. lol
[05:11] <Arwen> RytmenPinnen, doing anything other than building a deb trashes your system...
[05:11] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | nathan
[05:11] <ubotu> nathan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> it does? o.O
[05:11] <RytmenPinnen> ok :D
[05:11] <loader> este vre-un roman aici?
[05:11] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  well it can.. this is why I install games like that for a SINGLE USER. :)
[05:12] <Arwen> you're basically missing libdvdcss2, nathan
[05:12] <Arwen> !medibuntu | nathan
[05:12] <ubotu> nathan: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:12] <Ancient1> Hi. just installed kubuntu. when i try and run a script with sudo -s it says auth. failed ! but I am the SU ?!?!
[05:12] <dr_willis> http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Warzone2100
[05:12] <dr_willis> seems to have packages for that game
[05:13] <Ancient1> without the script = no web
[05:13] <RytmenPinnen> aah
[05:13] <ubuntu> hello, i have an question?
[05:13] <dr_willis> amazing what googling for 'warzone deb' finds. :)
[05:13] <RytmenPinnen> thanks :) It seems kind of painstaking to make those debs (I didnt really read the guide but its seems long)
[05:14] <RytmenPinnen> I tried that ... :(
[05:14] <dr_willis> amazing at all the unoifficial sites comming out now for software
[05:14] <dr_willis> http://www.google.com/search?q=warzone+2100+deb+package
[05:14] <ubuntu>  im trying to find a solution with  the error /bin/sh: cant access tty;job control turned off with gutsy tribe 2 cd. I get that everytime but when i unplug my hard drive it boots. Im running from cd now
[05:14] <RytmenPinnen> why cant they just place it in the repositories?
[05:14] <dr_willis> RytmenPinnen,  just a guess.. but LICENSING/LEGAL issues
[05:15] <dr_willis> why should they put every game out in the 'official/supported' repositories. :)
[05:15] <RytmenPinnen> ah, I believe Suse had it
[05:15] <RytmenPinnen> why not :D
[05:15] <RytmenPinnen> games are fun ^^
[05:15] <Arwen> games aren't fun if you have ATI...
[05:16] <RytmenPinnen> unless they suck which many of the games in the repositories do :P
[05:16] <SlimeyPete> not all games are fun. Minesweeper isn't fun.
[05:16] <dr_willis> id rather seem them use their limited funds/support staff on thinbgs ohter then games.
[05:16] <RytmenPinnen> hehe that's correct :P sooo..... buy nvidia next time ^^
[05:16] <RytmenPinnen> ah well, that makes sence
[05:17] <dr_willis> IRC is the ultimate game.
[05:17] <Narada> kubunku rocks!
[05:17] <jhutchins> With all the problems I see in IRC, I wouldn't be considering either ATI or Nvidia if I were shopping for a new graphics card.
[05:18] <RytmenPinnen> IRC is a genius way of communicating
[05:18] <jhutchins> I mean, there ARE other vendors out there.
[05:18] <RytmenPinnen> none that can run doom 3 .... or are there o.o
[05:18] <RytmenPinnen> I know voodoo2 can run doom3 ^^
[05:18] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  name a few.. only other one i can think of is Matrox and SIS. both of which ive also heard bad things about.
[05:19] <Arwen> Narada, what's Kubunku?
[05:19] <dr_willis> I got a Voodoo3 card somewhere... :)
[05:19] <Arwen> dr_willis, hehe
[05:19] <dr_willis> Intel needs to come out with some kicking stand alone cards with full linux support.
[05:19] <dr_willis> THEN id jump to intel in an instant.
[05:19] <RytmenPinnen> http://www.firingsquad.com/media/gallery_index.asp/244 :D
[05:19] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Intell
[05:20] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  last i looked. I cant just go buy an intel pcie or agp card.
[05:20] <RytmenPinnen> they dont really make fast gfx's
[05:20] <dr_willis> Unless theyve released stuff and i dident notice it recently. :)
[05:21] <dr_willis> Intel has the Backing and experience/people to slap ati and nvidia around.. :) if they wanted to. Im thinking.
[05:21] <andi> hi there, has anyone in here experienced the "white cube" problem with beryl and an intel shared memory graphics card using the driver i810?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> Intel needs AMD/ATI to keep pushing them ...it's good for the consumer
[05:22] <jhutchins> S3, SiS, VIA...
[05:23] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[05:23] <ksivaji> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:23] <ksivaji> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:23] <dr_willis> so specify it. :)
[05:23] <dr_willis> cd = iso9660
[05:23] <ksivaji> what file system should i specify
[05:23] <ksivaji> ?
[05:23] <dr_willis> every one knows that. :)  even my dog.. (kidding)
[05:23] <llutz> ksivaji: at least iso9660 should work
[05:23] <dr_willis> heh heh...
[05:24] <ksivaji> ok
[05:24] <jhutchins> Whatever happened to that kid who kept posting his password so we could fix his fstab?
[05:25] <andi> none? alright, thanck you anyway
[05:25] <andi> -c
[05:26] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  im guessing he ranted about how ubuntu sucks and  the system regiestry is better in windows.
[05:26] <dr_willis> :)
[05:27] <ultm8> hey folks is there any1 in here using a geforce 8800 gts card with kubuntu?
[05:27] <Arwen> well, the system registry *is* a good idea, it just has implementation issues
[05:27] <Arwen> ultm8, no, but what's your question?
[05:27] <ultm8> well
[05:27] <dr_willis> ultm8,  ive heard that card has some issues  - the official/lkatest nvidia drivers may be needed. (not that i know from personal experience.. its just what ive heard)
[05:27] <ultm8> am having loads of problems since i did a distro upgrade
[05:27] <dr_willis> did it work fine befor?
[05:27] <ultm8> yeah it did
[05:28] <ultm8> until now :(
[05:28] <ultm8> so i redownloaded the latest nvdia drivers from their site
[05:28] <ultm8> installed them
[05:28] <ultm8> startx
[05:28] <ultm8> resolution is out and the 3dfx arent enabled anymore
[05:29] <ultm8> i was hoping my now there would be binary drivers out
[05:29] <ultm8> *by
[05:29] <ultm8> i guess am screwed
[05:29] <ultm8> might be time to try another distro....
[05:30] <icecruncher> erm, ... anybody know why konqueror wont show me any files in the filesystem, but freezes?
[05:30] <icecruncher> it keeps stalling, and then shows 0 files/ 0 folders, no matter which location i type in
[05:30] <dr_willis> You tried installing the nvidia-glx drivers again.
[05:31] <Raze> So, I'm an idiot and messed up my apache2 install. removing/reinstalling with apt-get hasn't seemed to fix the problem (no apache2.conf, but I'm sure that's not the only thing wrong). Is there anyways I can completely eliminate it all form teh system and correctly reinstall it?
[05:31] <NSCAD_Nathan> is there any way to have kwallet not promt me for the password when a software tries to access it?  I can't seem to switch it
[05:31] <jhutchins> Raze: Did you remove with the --purge option?
[05:31] <icecruncher> Raze: aptitude purge
[05:31] <Raze> I used adept manager's purge
[05:31] <Raze> I'll try apt-get's
[05:32] <jhutchins> Raze: What problem are you trying to fix?
[05:32] <NickPresta> In /etc/network/interfaces I have auto setup for eth0 and eth1. However, for eth2 and eth3 (the only interfaces that show up in system settings) I have setup a static IP. (<IP_ADDRESS>). Everytime I turn on the computer, both are "active" and I cannot actually connect to the internet when both are up. I have to go into system settings and disable one and re-enable the other. However, it's random each time t
[05:32] <NickPresta> he computer restarts so I'm not sure how I would go about making only one interface start at boot up.
[05:32] <Raze> The deamon won't start because the apache2.conf is gone.
[05:32] <Raze> Long story how that ahppened :/
[05:33] <jhutchins> Raze: So you've reinstalled it, but you didn't get a conf file?
[05:34] <Raze> Yes.
[05:34] <NSCAD_Nathan> I unchecked "Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet" and kontact has "always allow".  So it doesn't bug me if the wallet is open alrerady, Is there any way to avoid that first having to log in to kwallet?
[05:34] <Raze> I'm thinking there are probably other problems, though.
[05:34] <RytmenPinnen> ummm
[05:34] <rabby> can one of You tell me, please, how to downgrad my feisty from 64 to 32 bit?
[05:34] <dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,  i think thats a bit of a security thing. Not sure if you can disable it..
[05:34] <NSCAD_Nathan> security shmecurity
[05:34] <jhutchins> NSCAD_Nathan: No, kubuntu's packagers decided it was Good For You to have to do it that way.
[05:34] <NickPresta> rabby, AFAIK, you can't. You need to reinstall using the 32bit installation CD.
[05:35] <RytmenPinnen> How do I configure a libphysfs package?
[05:35] <dr_willis> #kde guys may know  more. - Not sure if thats a Kubuntu thing.. or kde thing.
[05:35] <SlimeyPete> rabby: I think you have to reinstall.
[05:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> they obviously don't know me
[05:35] <Raze> Is there any place I can get a default apache2.conf?
[05:35] <RytmenPinnen> the install is whineing
[05:35] <jhutchins> rabby: Yeah, you need a completely clean install.
[05:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> or rather... know my wife... :p
[05:35] <jhutchins> NSCAD_Nathan: There's a lot they don't know.
[05:35] <dr_willis> set the password to be 'takeoutthetrash' so she can always rember it.
[05:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> "why do these windows keep popping up?"  - gah!
[05:36] <NickPresta> Raze, I can post you my apache 2 config file. I compiled Apache 2.2.4 from source though.
[05:36] <dr_willis> Honestly - i rarely see that kwallet thing pop up. I got it set to never time out.. so i login on monday... and  thats about it. :)
[05:36] <jhutchins> Raze: do a dpkg -L apache2, see if it just installed it somewhere else.
[05:37] <phantom_> How do i force version in KDE (Block it from updating) in Adept Packagemanager??? In Gnome-ppp or Kppp how doo I dial connection with comand???
[05:37] <dr_willis> Thers some way to 'pin' versions - but never done it.
[05:37] <dr_willis> !aptpin
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptpin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:37] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:37] <NSCAD_Nathan> dr_willis - that's fine for your situation... but I have a shared laptop, so when she wants to go facebooking there's always something for her to complain about... I'm trying to make one less thing :p
[05:37] <jhutchins> phantom_: pinning requires editing a config file.
[05:37] <dr_willis> Not sure it can be done from the gui tools.
[05:37] <Raze> Um. That command just lists some files in /usr/share/doc
[05:37] <ultm8> brb
[05:38] <jhutchins> !pin | phantom_
[05:38] <ubotu> phantom_: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[05:38] <dr_willis> "always something for her to complain about" - thats why you give her OTHER things to comlain about. :) i fuigured that out finially after 6+ yrs of marriage..
[05:38] <Raze> NickPresta That'd be nice.
 you could just not set a password for your wallet
[05:38] <dr_willis> If you totally trash the kitchen.. she dosent get too mad  when you ask her to go cook somthing. :)
[05:38] <NSCAD_Nathan> they are so smrt over in #KDE
[05:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> dr_willis - I'm just too nice I guess... maybe I should become an alchy and give her bigger things to worry about
[05:39] <dr_willis> "Porn addict" :)
[05:39] <jhutchins> Be nice if you could eliminate kwallet with a couple of mouse clicks like you can in other distros.
[05:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> at the same time releaving my own problems :p
[05:40] <dr_willis> after my wife getting her laptop trashed several times.. shes learned that its good to jump throgh the security hoops. :)
[05:41] <NSCAD_Nathan> of course it was a huge coup that I got away with replacing windows with Linux on our shared system
[05:41] <NickPresta> Raze, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/apache_conf_copy
[05:41] <Raze> Awesome, thanks :)
[05:41] <NickPresta> Raze, be sure to read through it and set it up appropriately if you have never done it before. It's important
[05:41] <TheFuzzball> I think I have a Virus
[05:42] <Arwen> OMG!
[05:42] <NickPresta> Hey Arwen.
[05:42] <Raze> Yeah
[05:42] <llutz> TheFuzzball: go visit the doctor
[05:42] <Arwen> NickPresta, yes, hello
[05:42] <NSCAD_Nathan> I'm takinig echinacea for my virus
[05:42] <NSCAD_Nathan> I recommend the tissues with aloe as well.. they are magical
[05:43] <paolo_> well: when i do cat somedev, how can i force the command in order to ignore a signal?
[05:43] <NSCAD_Nathan> now if only they would lace the tissues with MDMA... that would be worth having the flu for.. :p
[05:43] <TheFuzzball> llutz, haha, every hour or so a krdc window pops up and says someone from cmweb426.commercialmedia.com wants to connect to my computer
[05:44] <TheFuzzball> llutz, the only thing I can think of to do is remove krdc, but that would take half of KDE with it
[05:45] <loader> ROMANIA este cineva aici
[05:45] <loader> imi trebuie srocino
[05:45] <andi> has any1 ever heard of a widely spread virus for linux?
[05:45] <icecruncher> !ro | loader
[05:45] <ubotu> loader: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[05:46] <TheFuzzball> nope
[05:46] <NickPresta> TheFuzzball, krdc doesn't remove anything but krdc according to my simulation
[05:46] <TheFuzzball> but this is really starting to piss me off
[05:46] <llutz> TheFuzzball: krdc only removes kubuntu-desktop, meta-package
[05:46] <TheFuzzball> llutz, I would like to keep kubuntu-desktop thanks :)
[05:47] <TheFuzzball> llutz, and I would like to keep krdc too :)
[05:48] <TheFuzzball> llutz, and it removes kde* kdenetwork* krdc* and it says that all of the other KDE packages are no longer needed
[05:48] <loader> how mount local directory in Cedega?
[05:48] <TheFuzzball> anyway, I'm not saying it's a virus anymore, does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[05:49] <loader> pleas help me
[05:49] <llutz> TheFuzzball: only kubuntu-desktop here, odd. so block incoming rdp-connections to keep anything
[05:49] <dr_willis> yea - odd...
[05:49] <TheFuzzball> llutz, I don't know how :)
[05:49] <Arwen> TheFuzzball, it seems that you have a firewall/service related issue
[05:49] <Arwen> go shut down remote login, lol
[05:49] <llutz> TheFuzzball: (man) iptables
[05:50] <TheFuzzball> Arwen, you could be right, I think some firewall app was automatically installed
[05:51] <TheFuzzball> Arwen, I'll find out it's name and remove it
[05:51] <TheFuzzball> thanks a lot
[05:51] <Arwen> uh........
[05:51] <Arwen> lmao, that's not what I meant
[05:52] <khaije1> is there a wm for kde that supports viewports i can use while waiting for kde4?
[05:52] <Arwen> khaije1, yes, compiz
[05:52] <phantom_> I forgot where to put link to load prog on startup (beginner)
[05:54] <dr_willis> .Autostart
[05:54] <dr_willis> or was it .autostart ?
[05:54] <dr_willis> heck was it Autostart?  :)
[05:55] <dr_willis> .kde/Autostart/
[05:55] <dr_willis> Heh .   thats it!
[05:56] <IppatsuManXYZ> dr_willis: install kcontrol-autostart, if you want a gui to add programs
[05:57] <jhutchins> funny, when I ssh to my kubuntu box over vpn, and log out, ssh never returns me to the local prompt.
[05:58] <dr_willis> IppatsuManXYZ,  Been there, done that. :)
[06:00] <stexe> ciao
[06:01] <NSCAD_Nathan> when I boot up Beryl loads, but it always loads kwin as the manager, how do I change the default?
[06:01] <NSCAD_Nathan> it's annnnnnoying
[06:02] <wolferine> you have to select beryl as the window manager?
[06:02] <NSCAD_Nathan> wolferine - every time
[06:02] <wolferine> did you check the beryl settings?
[06:03] <NSCAD_Nathan> well I've looked through, but I haven't seen where to set the default WM
[06:03] <NSCAD_Nathan> I thought it would just remember last settings
[06:03] <djdarkman> does someone know how to set up and use pulseaudio properly?
[06:03] <NSCAD_Nathan> like it does for everything else I set :)
[06:03] <wolferine> hmm, I dont see it either
[06:03] <wolferine> does beryl crash perhaps?
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> it rarely crashes, but sometimes
[06:04] <wolferine> does it crash on loading?
[06:04] <wolferine> have you ever checked
[06:04] <wolferine> whats the fall back wm?
[06:04] <wolferine> does it fall to the default if it crashes?
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> KWIN is the only other choice
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> yeah
[06:04] <NSCAD_Nathan> how would I check if it is crashing?
[06:05] <NSCAD_Nathan> it rarely crashes when I've started it manually
[06:10] <andre_> ALGUEM DO BRASIL?
[06:15] <UbuntuFeisty> EU
[06:15] <UbuntuFeisty> ubotu: PT
[06:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:16] <sumigamer> guys how do i install beryl on kubuntu. when i run apt-get beryl emerald themes, it says that the package beryl-settings has unmet dependnecies.
[06:17] <dr_willis> !beryl
[06:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:17] <dr_willis> its possible you need some extra repositories.
[06:17] <sumigamer> but how do I get them??
[06:17] <dr_willis> I will warn you.. it seems eveyr time someone comes in here asking how to install beryl. about 2 days latter theycome back asking how to UNINSTALL it.
[06:17] <dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, apt-get install beryl-manager should grab the dependencies
[06:18] <dr_willis> try a 'apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, THEN try to install beryl-manager  perhaps?
[06:18] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, in addition, the beryl-project.org wiki has great install instructions for Ubuntu
[06:18] <Bearhill> Hello, does anybody know a good resource for a linux first timer. I need to learn how to install hardware drivers
[06:19] <jhutchins> Bearhill: what hardware?
[06:19] <dr_willis> Bearhill,  your disrto makers homepage/wiki/forums
[06:19] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, what hardware drivers?
[06:19] <Bearhill> Linksys PCMCIA ethernet card
[06:19] <Bearhill> Kubunt 7.04
[06:19] <dr_willis> plug it in, load the proper module. :) should be about it.. (depending on the card)
[06:19] <sumigamer> no matter what command for beryl I use, it says that broken packages are present.....this never happened in ubuntu
[06:20] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, use synaptic or dselect to fix the unmet dependencies
[06:20] <samy> UN francais
[06:20] <Bearhill> I downloaded the "driver" from linksys. How do I install it?
[06:20] <samy> ???
[06:20] <Yorokobi> !fr | samy
[06:20] <ubotu> samy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:21] <sumigamer> Yorokobi, how do I use synaptic to resolve the dependencies??
[06:21] <samy> OK*
[06:21] <NickPresta> In /etc/network/interfaces I have auto setup for eth0 and eth1. However, for eth2 and eth3 (the only interfaces that show up in system settings) I have setup a static IP. (<IP_ADDRESS>). Everytime I turn on the computer, both are "active" and I cannot actually connect to the internet when both are up. I have to go into system settings and disable one and re-enable the other. However, it's random each time t
[06:21] <NickPresta> he computer restarts so I'm not sure how I would go about making only one interface start at boot up.
[06:22] <dr_willis> you could blacklist the modiels for the network cards you dont want to use.
[06:22] <dr_willis> you building your own router?
[06:24] <Yorokobi> NickPresta, it sounds like a default route issue. When you start up the computer (before disabling any interfaces) check the results of 'route -n'
[06:24] <NickPresta> Yorokobi, thank you. I will do that in a few minutes.
[06:24] <Bearhill> no, I'm connected directly.
[06:26] <sumigamer> how do i add beryl to the startup in kubuntu??
[06:26] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, put a symlink to beryl-manager in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:27] <dr_willis> I thought the berly stuff added a KDM entry/menu item for the user to select.
[06:27] <sumigamer> Yorokobi, I dunno how to do that.
[06:27] <Bearhill> Is there a good resource for how to install stuff in Kubuntu? I know NOTHING about linux. I'm just a guy that got frustrated with bill gates S&*t
[06:28] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - what is it you are installing?
[06:28] <NSCAD_Nathan> Does ADEPT not do the job for you?
[06:28] <Yorokobi> sumigamer,  ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager /home/cwilliams/.kde/Autostart/
[06:28] <dr_willis> Bearhill,  fire up the 'add/remove' icon yet?
[06:28] <Yorokobi> argh, subst cwilliams for your user name :)
[06:28] <dr_willis> !adept
[06:28] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:29] <dr_willis> Hard est thing to learn about packages/installing stuff in ubuntu/kubuntu - is to USE the package manager.. dont just 'download' stuff. :)
[06:29] <Bearhill> On an IBM Laptop. ethernet card, external monitor and media software
[06:29] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - it pretty much installs anything you would want automagically
[06:29] <Yorokobi> sumigamer, a more correct version:  ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manageer ~/.kde/Autostart/
[06:29] <Bearhill> What is the package mananger?
[06:29] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - think of packages like the installers for windows
[06:30] <NSCAD_Nathan> except it is automated in Kubuntu
[06:30] <dr_willis> it makes Sence in kubuntu. :)
[06:30] <NSCAD_Nathan> so there is a program that will list available packages, download and installed them
[06:30] <dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,  adept :)
 adept is the Kubuntu package manager
[06:30] <Bearhill> How do I find this program>
[06:30] <dr_willis> theres the idiot-interface to adept that you get to from the 'add/remove' icon
[06:30] <NSCAD_Nathan> dr_willis - yis, as I mentioned already.  I was just trying to simplify for Bearhill
[06:31] <dr_willis> Look in the menus?
[06:31] <Bearhill> He He I founf it...THanks:)
[06:31] <dr_willis> Add/remove Programs - for simple interface,    , system -> adept manager for the advanced form
[06:31] <dr_willis> or install synaptc ifya want
[06:32] <dr_willis> thats the gnome version of adept. (i perfer it)
[06:32] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - good luck :)  I used the advanced form right from the get go as a newbie.
[06:32] <NSCAD_Nathan> I prefer Adept :p
[06:32] <Sanne> Bearhill: I also recommend the Kubuntu Desktop Guide you should find in the menu under Help (if it's still there in Kubuntu Feisty... I'm on an older version).
[06:32] <Bearhill> That's how I found Konversation
[06:33] <Bearhill> I already love Linux!!!
[06:33] <enry> hi
[06:33] <dr_willis> Marry it then~!
[06:33] <dr_willis> :)
[06:33] <Bearhill> HaHa
[06:33] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - are you running a liveCD or did you just install?
[06:33] <Bearhill> install
[06:33] <NSCAD_Nathan> ballsy :)
[06:33] <Bearhill> My PC was crippled by a virus
[06:34] <NSCAD_Nathan> pretty low chance of that happening with kubuntu... though it could be crippled by other things, mostly related to user error :p
[06:34] <level1> my compy hasn't been suspending correctly.  Most of the time it works beautifully, but sometimes it does kinda a failed suspend, where the fans and usb devices turn off, but the processor is still running... I'm worried that its going to damage my processor (overheating)
[06:34] <Bearhill> error :p??
[06:35] <level1> Bearhill: well, its easier to screw up than you think... plus, theres some persistant bugs that get annoying
[06:35] <NSCAD_Nathan> did the ":p" throw you off?
[06:36] <Bearhill> uh...yes...I'm still Linux Illiterate
[06:36] <NSCAD_Nathan> that's an emoticon...
[06:36] <NSCAD_Nathan> akin to :)
[06:36] <level1> But, whats wrong with my computer?  It works most of the time!
[06:36] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, ':' are eyes, 'p' is a mouth with the tongue out
[06:36] <Bearhill> How do I install my Linksys ethernet adapter. The computer sees is, but how do I get it to see the wireless network(s)
[06:37] <NSCAD_Nathan> Bearhill - Here's where those " :)
[06:38] <NSCAD_Nathan> "other things" start to crop up
[06:38] <sumigamer> guys how do I change that K icon of the K menu??
[06:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> replace the kmenu icon in the iconset you are using
[06:39] <sumigamer> i dont get it....
[06:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> with a new .png file
[06:39] <sumigamer> i still dont get it....
[06:39] <NSCAD_Nathan> google it
[06:39] <level1> Bearhill: Ideally, linux runs very well, and on ideal hardware it's great, but in the real world, hardware is most of the problem... but of course, a serious linux hacker will argue back....
[06:40] <sumigamer> come on, tell me how to do this
[06:40] <NSCAD_Nathan> level1 - yeah but who wants to become a serious linux hacker?
[06:40] <level1> "Linux has the best hardware support in the world" which is actually true...
[06:40] <level1> NSCAD_Nathan: I do a little
[06:40] <NSCAD_Nathan> I just worry about attracting too many babes if I became one
[06:40] <NSCAD_Nathan> :p
[06:40] <Bearhill> Ok...I downloaded the Linux "driver" for my card. How do I use the software now?
[06:41] <llutz> sumigamer: change /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/...../apps/kmenu.png  into yours
[06:42] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, is the card plugged into the PCMCIA slot right now?
[06:43] <Bearhill> yes
[06:43] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, are the LEDs lit/blinking?
[06:43] <Bearhill> Power is on an Link is blinking
[06:44] <sumigamer> llutz, does it have to be the same size??
[06:44] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, run 'lspci | grep -i linksys' from the commandline. It should spit out the card
[06:45] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, ... the card info that is, not physically eject the card :)
[06:45] <llutz> sumigamer: would look nicer, i think
[06:46] <jhutchins> Bearhill: If you've got a link light, try ifconfig - it should list the card.
[06:50] <Bearhill> sorry, I assum the command line is "run command" in the K menu? And i just type ifconfig
[06:51] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, K > System > Konsole, then the commands
[06:52] <Bearhill> thx
[06:53] <sumigamer> guys i cannot copy the icon  to that directory, it says access denied
[06:54] <jhutchins> Bearhill: Yeah, 'cause you'll need to have the console to display the output of the command.
[06:54] <jhutchins> Bearhill: Oh yeah, and with any system-level command, you'll need to use sudo - so sudo ifconfig in a console.
[06:55] <Bearhill> I type  "-so sudo ifconfig"  ??
[06:55] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, 'sudo ifconfig'
[06:56] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, then your password when it asks for it
[06:56] <Bearhill> bingo
[06:57] <khaije1> anybody have preferences for good music 'tracker' software avail w/ ubuntu?
[06:57] <Bearhill> it brings up a bunch of ethernet stuff. nothing that says linksys
[06:57] <jhutchins> khaije1: amarok?
[06:58] <Sanne> khaije1: to make music?
[06:58] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, how about wifi0/ath0 (anything other than lo0 & eth0)
[06:58] <sumigamer> guys how do i install a new theme in kubuntu??
[06:58] <jhutchins> Bearhill: Right, the linksys will be eth0 or eth1 or something.
[06:58] <jhutchins> !theme | sumigamer
[06:58] <ubotu> sumigamer: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:58] <khaije1> Sanne: ya, something along the lines of fruityloops maybe, not necessarily as comprehensive as rosegarden, ut still fun to use
[06:59] <sumigamer> yeah but how do i install it??
[06:59] <jhutchins> !changethemes | sumigamer
[06:59] <ubotu> sumigamer: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[06:59] <jhutchins> sumigamer: second url.
[07:00] <Bearhill> nothing that says wifi
[07:01] <Sanne> khaije1: there's a general shortage on sequencer software with modular synths, but there's the venerable soundtracker (just samples though), and a new one called aldrin, aims to be a buzz clone (http://trac.zeitherrschaft.org/aldrin/). There's also EnergyXT 2, now on Linux, but it's closed software, still nice and not very expensive: http://www.energy-xt.com/
[07:02] <Sanne> khaije1: maybe also ask in #ubuntustudio (channel for custom multimedia ubuntu distro)
[07:02] <khaije1> Sanne: holy cow aldrin looks fscking sweet!
[07:02] <Sanne> khaije1: yes, it does :)
[07:03] <steffen> How to install a ident server? i have tryed meny times, but i dont get it to work :( help?
[07:03] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, does 'lspci | grep -i lynksys' return anything?
[07:03] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, correction: 'lspci | grep -i linksys'
[07:03] <Sanne> khaije1: there's also #lad channel, where linux audio community meets.
[07:04] <Bearhill> no
[07:05] <khaije1> Sanne: man, i love that so many projects are embracing ubuntu in their default package offerings
[07:05] <Arwen> what's the point of a lowlatency/realtime kernel? should I use it instead of the generic one?
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> Arwen: not on a desktop
[07:06] <khaije1> Sanne: one more question, I need something like Audacity, should i just get that or is there something better that i've missed?
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> it's mostly useful in industry
[07:06] <rodrigo_> hello guys
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> because it makes the system very responsive - which is handy if said system is running heavy machinery
[07:06] <thomax__> sup rodrigo_
[07:07] <rodrigo_> any one of you knows how to install windows if you have only installed kubuntu
[07:07] <rodrigo_> I saw something about partitions
[07:07] <thomax__> use virtualbox
[07:07] <thomax__> !google virtualbox
[07:07] <rodrigo_> but I'm not quite sure, I believe I have only one partition
[07:07] <rodrigo_> !google virtualbox?
[07:07] <thomax__> you could shrink it
[07:07] <Sanne> khaije1: for a nice general purpose audio editor, I think you can't go wrong with Audacity. For a full fledged audio multitrack editor you could also take a look at ... I can't believe that the name just escapes me... wait, it'll come to me in a sec...
[07:08] <Sanne> khaije1: Ardour
[07:08] <thomax__> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[07:08] <thomax__> rodrigo_: read that
[07:08] <rodrigo_> thomax: thanks
[07:08] <khaije1> Sanne: i'll check it out, thx v much
[07:08] <Sanne> khaije1: you're welcome, good luck :)
[07:10] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, what is the model of linksys card you're using?
[07:11] <jhutchins> Arwen: Also useful for multimedia.
[07:11] <Arwen> jhutchins, hmm? playback or editing?
[07:11] <Arwen> and more importantly, what does it do?
[07:12] <jhutchins> Arwen: Can help with playback, allows the playback application to grab sufficient cycles to avoid skips.  Can be helpful in capture as well, anything where hesitation would cause a glitch.
[07:12] <Arwen> ah, so what are the negative aspects? will it reduce performance or reliability?
[07:13] <jhutchins> Arwen: It allows the privileged app to hog cycles, preventing multi-task efficiency.
[07:14] <jhutchins> Arwen: Not so good for say multiuser machines.
[07:14] <Arwen> jhutchins, ah
[07:14] <jhutchins> Arwen: Often used in embedded apps, where the system really has only one purpose.
[07:14] <Arwen> jhutchins, how does it work? do I have to set a process to have realtime priority?
[07:15] <jhutchins> Arwen: There are a number of things you can tune, setting things in /proc/cpu, something like that.
[07:15] <jhutchins> Arwen: Fuzzy on the details, I work from docs when I do stuff like that.
[07:15] <Arwen> ah
[07:17] <rodrigo_> thomax__: how do I install it?
[07:17] <jhutchins> Arwen: More than one way to handle it, the multimedia kernel is just one.
[07:17] <rodrigo_> I can't find it in the menu
[07:18] <Arwen> hmm
[07:18] <Bearhill> sorry....wpc11
[07:18] <CyD> Arwen, :)
[07:19] <CyD> ubuntu christian edition was made by god. intelligent design
[07:19] <Arwen> lmao
[07:19] <llutz> CyD: but: linux is evolution, not intelligent design :)
[07:20] <CyD> :D
[07:22] <Arwen> feature request: can't the installer fetch and update Ubuntu during installation?
[07:22] <Yorokobi> Bearhill, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/26/support-for-broadcom-wireless-ubuntu-6061-610/
[07:23] <Bearhill> thx
[07:24] <morrison> hello boys
[07:24] <bullet> kubunters
[07:24] <bullet> wassup
[07:24] <morrison> I have a problem with nVdia Driver
[07:24] <bullet> its my first time with Konversation
[07:25] <bullet> what's ur problem dude
[07:25] <G104cch1n0> hello all
[07:25] <G104cch1n0> I have a question
[07:25] <G104cch1n0> I have creative web cam go
[07:26] <morrison> sis_agp                 9604  1
[07:26] <morrison> agpgart                35400  2 nvidia,sis_agp
[07:26] <G104cch1n0> but I don't have found a webcam tool for kde...
[07:26] <morrison> there is a customer who can help me?
[07:27] <G104cch1n0> exist a kde webcam tool ?
[07:27] <G104cch1n0> because if I use camorama  I must install all gnome library...
[07:27] <G104cch1n0> and camorama not work fine with my webcam..
[07:28] <G104cch1n0> I see bouble image and gry scale!
[07:28] <G104cch1n0> *I see double image and gry scale!
[07:30] <G104cch1n0> !webcam
[07:30] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:33] <sess> any advice on the best way to track down the cause of the lockup when I try to suspend my laptop?  I've tried both uswsusp and the default kernel suspend tools, but the laptop freezes mid suspend and locks up
[07:34] <BluesKaj> !suspend
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <BluesKaj> !hibernate
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <brendon> Does anybody know how to control the mouse cursor from the keyboard
[08:03] <brendon> ?
[08:04] <jhutchins> brendon: I know there's something in the accessibility stuff that will allow that.
[08:05] <brendon> You know, its the kind of thing you only need to do once in a great while, and by then you've forgotten how...
[08:05] <brendon> And you bump into a machine without a working mouse!
[08:06] <fyrmedic> Is there a way to set the order in which knetworkmanager accesses wireless routers? Currently it connects automatically to my neighbors router instead of mine so I have to manually change it every time.
[08:07] <brendon> fyrmedic: Have you thought of justusing the /etc/network/interfaces file and not using knetworkmanager?
[08:08] <fyrmedic> brendon; no that is why I am asking. Will that limit me when I am away from home though?
[08:11] <brendon> I've given up on the gui wireless stuff and just stuck it into that file.  I also have a little script that chooses which to use based on access point
[08:13] <brendon> look at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27718/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27719/
[08:13] <yonkeltron_> anyone have any luck with the linksys wmp54g
[08:14] <ubuntu> you tryin to set up the linksys?
[08:14] <brendon> The one is what goes into the interfaces file, modified of course and the other is the mapping script, which you can put anywhere you like.
[08:14] <yonkeltron_> ubuntu: wondering about buying
[08:14] <ubuntu> ah
[08:15] <yonkeltron_> ubuntu: yeah... any ideas?
[08:15] <ubuntu> yonkeltron i dont know, Ive only worked with netgear routers
[08:15] <brendon> What are you going to connect to it?  I think I have one, but they have so many models now
[08:15] <rustalot> where are the kde libraries?
[08:16] <Arwen> /usr/lib ?
[08:17] <yonkeltron_> brendon: i want to throw the Linksys WMP54G wifi card into a pci slot on a desktop
[08:17] <brendon> Sorry, I thought you were giving the router model :)
[08:19] <b3rt> hey
[08:19] <jars> keiner da :D
[08:20] <b3rt> good evening
[08:20] <jars> american?
[08:20] <b3rt> could anyone tell me where to put a firmware .fw on feisty?
[08:20] <yonkeltron_> jars: a bissel...
[08:20] <b3rt> hotplug doesnt exist
[08:20] <yonkeltron_> b3rt: what kind? for a broadcom or something?
[08:21] <jarn> In SuperKaramba I apparently have to put two of the widgets on my desktop before it shows up.
[08:28] <N9NU> i looked through the online docs and cannot find howto enable my 2nd network adapter to allow for internet connection sharing (gateway)
[08:28] <yeniklasor> I'm trying to delete my pictures under the home directory. sudo rm -rf /home/yeniklasor/*.jpg  But shell says "bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Argument list too long"  How can I fix it?
[08:34] <brendon> N9NU: I'm not sure I exactly understand your problem, but it sounds like you want to create a bridge and do NAT?
[08:34] <N9NU> yes
[08:34] <N9NU> i have 4 other pcs and want to use this one as a gateway/router
[08:34] <N9NU> to enable internet on the others
[08:34] <llutz> N9NU: google for ip-forwarding, masquerading
[08:35] <N9NU> copy that
[08:35] <brendon> Ok, then have a look at the firewall software.
[08:35] <N9NU> i dont have a router though
[08:35] <N9NU> this pc will act as that
[08:35] <llutz> N9NU: it's easy, maybe use dnsmasq too for dhcp/dns
[08:35] <brendon> Try shorewall.  It will let you exactly control how it works plus act as a firewall!
[08:35] <N9NU> ok . will check all that out
[08:36] <N9NU> yeah thats what i was thinking
[08:36] <N9NU> the other ? i have is, how do I download sources...like kernel-source, etc
[08:36] <brendon> Shorewall is fairly easy to configure, etc.
[08:37] <N9NU> the package installer didnt give me any of those options under "Development"
[08:37] <Mez> anyone know a good program to convert my downloaded .avi's to a DVD format?
[08:37] <brendon> Try something like adept Manager
[08:37] <N9NU> ok will try that
[08:37] <llutz> Mez: mencoder
[08:38] <N9NU> im just used to another distro and using the CLI to do everything
[08:38] <brendon> I still use the command line for loads of stuff
[08:38] <N9NU> yeah..i love it
[08:38] <brendon> sometimes it's just much quicker
[08:39] <N9NU> yep
[08:39] <brendon> No reason to change!
[08:39] <N9NU> and i need to find pico
[08:39] <Mez> llutz, thats just a PITA to use tho
[08:39] <N9NU> heh
[08:39] <N9NU> i been using linux since 93
[08:39] <khaije1> AW SHIZZLE!
[08:39] <N9NU> so the CLI is my best friend
[08:40] <llutz> N9NU: use nano, a pico-clone ;)
[08:40] <brendon> I fear the magic that some gui's do to the system!
[08:40] <khaije1> i think the nvidia update just un-broke (re-fixed) my neverwinter install !?!?!
[08:40] <N9NU> yeah thats good also
[08:41] <N9NU> ok i got adept-manger........now were talkin
[08:42] <llutz> N9NU: if you prefer cli: aptitude, apt-get, apt-cache  for package-management are easy and powerful
[08:42] <enry> goodbye
[08:42] <N9NU> apt-get i used in Mandriva, so that on i do know
[08:43] <llutz> N9NU: they know why they implemented it for rpm too :)
[08:43] <N9NU> i dont mind the GUI
[08:43] <N9NU> heh
[08:43] <llutz> cli is more powerfull (imho)
[08:43] <N9NU> agreed
[08:44] <N9NU> ah there we go...its downloading the sources now
[08:44] <khaije1> how can i get changelog info on debs ?
[08:44] <KaMo> hello guys
[08:44] <N9NU> hi
[08:44] <KaMo> I'm trying to rub ububto on my server and it is driving me crazy
[08:45] <KaMo> somebody here to help?
[08:45] <KaMo> ubunto**
[08:45] <ben_t> Everyone's helpful.
[08:45] <KaMo> nice
[08:45] <N9NU> i think we are in the same boat
[08:45] <N9NU> im setting up servers via kubuntu
[08:46] <KaMo> the thing is that once the server is started there get stock on "loading /etc/rc.local/"
[08:46] <KaMo> after that somebody need to hit enter in order to finish the start up
[08:47] <KaMo> do you guys have idea what's going on?
[08:47] <N9NU> the only option i have in rc.local is "ecit 0"
[08:47] <N9NU> exit 0
[08:47] <KaMo> yes
[08:47] <KaMo> I even changed the name of rc.local
[08:48] <N9NU> i just realized i dont have bash-completion installed
[08:48] <N9NU> thats a must
[08:48] <KaMo> and now it get stock after loading eth1
[08:48] <N9NU> one way i get around that is to setup static IP's
[08:48] <KaMo> I did it already
[08:48] <N9NU> unless you have DHCP from your ISP
[08:48] <ben_t> ... wow, someone has cleared out all of my nicks I usually use.
[08:49] <KaMo> is needed for the server
[08:50] <N9NU> do you look in /etc/network
[08:50] <N9NU> did
[08:50] <ben_t> Hmm, was looking at this, could help.
[08:50] <ben_t> http://docs.planetargon.com/Server_Reboots
[08:51] <KaMo> looking
[08:52] <rodrigo_> hey guys can you help to install this file?
[08:52] <N9NU> they even have ham radio apps.......very nice
[08:52] <KaMo> yep
[08:52] <rodrigo_> I have kubunut
[08:52] <vzduch> ben_t: were you registered?
[08:53] <ed__> does anyone here have experiencing setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server?
[08:53] <rodrigo_> kubuntu and its vitual box I have download it from here http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[08:53] <ben_t> vzduch: nope, just nicks I usually like to use are allready taken.
[08:53] <ed__> please help
[08:53] <rodrigo_> how do I install it do I have to extract the files to another folder?
[08:54] <llutz> rodrigo_: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[08:54] <vzduch> ben_t: then there's no reason to complain ;)
[08:55] <llutz> rodrigo_: where package.deb is the path/file you've downloaded
[08:55] <rodrigo_> llutz: I don't need to extract it do I?
[08:55] <rodrigo_> in home
[08:55] <llutz> rodrigo_: if you download the .deb, no
[08:55] <ben_t> vzduch: I guess,but, meh.
[08:55] <ben_t> ed:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97277&highlight=freenx
[08:55] <vzduch> wait for your favourite nick to be unoccupied & register
[08:55] <ben_t> freenx will work just like the regular, except it is more documented.
[08:56] <rodrigo_> llutz: it's in home, so I just paste the command you give in the console?
[08:56] <llutz> rodrigo_: yes, just replace the filename
[08:56] <rodrigo_> llutz: the file name?
[08:57] <llutz> rodrigo_: sudo dpkg -i virtualbox_1.4.0-21864_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb
[08:57] <rodrigo_> sudo dpkg -i package.deb= virtualbox_1.4.0-21864_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb
[08:58] <rodrigo_> always is like that the installation when you download it?
[08:58] <rodrigo_> llutz: Im used to use the  adapt installer
[08:58] <llutz> rodrigo_: afaik adept cannot install .deb files
[08:59] <rodrigo_> ohh I see
[08:59] <rodrigo_> llutz: so when I download files to intall the magic worlds are?
[09:00] <llutz> rodrigo_: sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[09:00] <rodrigo_> llutz:sudo dpkg -i
[09:00] <rodrigo_> with that sintaxis
[09:00] <llutz> rodrigo_: "man dpkg" tells you more
[09:01] <rodrigo_> llutz: I always get frustrated with spaces and lines and that things
[09:01] <rodrigo_> llutz: lol
[09:01] <rodrigo_> llutz: thanks llutz I'll try it now
[09:02] <llutz> rodrigo_: konqueror -> right-click on the file -> Kubuntu package menu -> install
[09:02] <llutz> rodrigo_: should work for mouseclickers
[09:02] <rodrigo_> hahaha
[09:05] <mpdr> i need some help on partitioning my drive
[09:05] <N9NU> i decided to select the KDE 4 packages for kix, will this be installed in a seperate folder
[09:05] <mpdr> which one would anyone suggest: automatic or manuallt
[09:05] <ben_t> Manual unless you really like linux.
[09:05] <N9NU> i am running the devel version of kubuntu
[09:05] <mpdr> manually*
[09:05] <rodrigo_> any one of you use virtual box?
[09:06] <mpdr> i already installed windows
[09:06] <mpdr> i hav 75.55gb free
[09:07] <mpdr> do i just create the second partition free
[09:07] <sn00py> hi! how can u change the bootscreen of kubuntu 7.04 ? i mean that screen where you see the progress balk, like under windows xp
[09:07] <sn00py> i've heared that it's merged with the kernel? so is it possible or not?
[09:08] <Arwen> why would you want to see the progress balk?
[09:08] <N9NU> i always like to see verbose
[09:08] <N9NU> but it wont let me press "esc" to get there
[09:08] <BluesKaj> mpdr, how much room do you want to give over to Kubuntu
[09:09] <rodrigo_> any one of you use virtual box?
[09:09] <llutz> if all works, i prefer to see nothing
[09:09] <Arwen> N9NU, so go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the "splash" option
[09:09] <jhutchins>                  sn00py: I think you can edit your grub menu.list file to turn off the splash screen.
[09:10] <jhutchins> sn00py: There's also settings for it in kcontrol.
[09:11] <N9NU> ok....same as others
[09:11] <N9NU> kewl
[09:11] <mpdr> i want 74.22 free
[09:11] <mpdr> for linux*
[09:11] <BluesKaj> mpdr, for Kubuntu ?
[09:11] <mpdr> yea
[09:12] <mpdr> im tryin to prepare my partitions now, i just want to know wat to do next
[09:12] <mpdr> so i dont mess nuttin up
[09:12] <BluesKaj> mpdr, then choose the guided partioning option
[09:13] <BluesKaj> err partitioning
[09:13] <jhutchins> mpdr: You only need about 5 or 6g max for linux.  You can format the rest as a storage area accessible by both systems using vfat.
[09:13] <mike-kubuntu> i accidently stopped the tray icon that checks for updates when you first log in from starting, does anyone know how to get it back on the list of startup apps?
[09:13] <rodrigo_> hello any one using virtual box and kubuntu?
[09:13] <BluesKaj> yes  mpdr , then you have some conytrol over the size and placement
[09:14] <ed__> please help!
[09:14] <mth`MAW> Hi there, I am looking for a propper reference for kommander. Does anybody knows anything?
[09:14] <ed__> does anyone have experience setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server?
[09:14] <mpdr> cant i just put use the largest continuous free space??
[09:14] <BluesKaj> !repeat | rod
[09:14] <ubotu> rod: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:15] <voicu> hi, where is the flash player installed?
[09:15] <ed__> does anyone have experience setting up and getting to work nomachine NX server?
[09:15] <voicu> i mean for konqueror. it works on the main user and not on others
[09:16] <Arwen> voicu, /usr/lib ?
[09:16] <Arwen> or maybe /home
[09:16] <llutz> voicu: dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree      tells you
[09:16] <voicu> hmm, apparently it's not installed :P
[09:16] <mpdr> blueskaj: cant i just put use the largest continuous free space?
[09:17] <llutz> !repeat |ed
[09:17] <ubotu> ed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:17] <BluesKaj> mpdr, if you wish
[09:17] <ferron> where can i go to get information on building a supercompuer
[09:17] <Arwen> anyone know if there's a way to make the installer automatically update during installation?
[09:17] <ed__> if somone would answer me I wouldn't repeat, even a single "I don't know" is acceptable, is that so hard? :)
[09:17] <brendon> voicu: which konqueror
[09:17] <ferron> home brewed supercomputer
[09:17] <voicu> brendon: 3.5.6
[09:17] <mpdr> blueskaj: would it mess up my windows installation??
[09:17] <ben_t> Uh, ed__,didya check out freenx, it has a howto.
[09:17] <llutz> ed__: you expect 377 times: i don't know?
[09:18] <mpdr> blueskaj: i just want to be sure
[09:18] <N9NU> that blue whatever supercomputer came here to argonne natl labs in Illinois the other day
[09:18] <brendon> voicu: No the command "which konqueror" at the command line will tell you which one is being found from path.
[09:18] <BluesKaj> mpdr, that's why i suggested the guided partitioning option
[09:18] <ed__> this is for a biz deployment and I have been specifcally assigned not to use freenx so thjat unfortunately is not an option
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> Blue Gene?
[09:19] <ed__> but thanks for the suggestion
[09:19] <ben_t> ed__: aww, I'll go look around some more.
[09:19] <brendon> ed__: Your understanding of how this works is faulty.  There are possibly 376 people who don't know and 1 that does.  Who should respond first?
[09:20] <voicu> brendon: thanks but i managed it. i didn't know there was a flash package. also didn't know there was flash 9 on linux :D
[09:20] <ed__> the specific issue is the foilloiwng...
[09:20] <ed__> Jun 29 09:52:54 localhost NXNODE-3.0.0-71[5821] : ERROR: Error when monitoring session: Could not open default font 'fixed' 'NXSessionMonitor::__setSessionStatus'
[09:20] <ed__> *following
[09:20] <mpdr> blueskaj: guided partitioning option?? where would that option be??
[09:20] <llutz> ferron: openmosix and a lot of money will help to build a supercomputer
[09:20] <voicu> this is a happy day :P
[09:20] <N9NU> Blue Gene
[09:20] <N9NU> yeah that sounds right
[09:20] <ed__> where is default font "fixed"?
[09:20] <BluesKaj> mpdr, I sassume you're on the live cd ?
[09:20] <ben_t> ed__:  I'm guessing you peeked at http://happybeggar.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=2
[09:21] <Arwen> indeed, this is a happy day since it's the day I'm switching back to Windows :-)
[09:21] <BluesKaj> err assume
[09:21] <ben_t> NX has some dependencies,try installing those.
[09:21] <ben_t>  Terminal: sudo apt-get install openssh-server libxcomp1 libxcompext1
[09:21] <ed__> yes I've done that, it can't find the fixed font though...
[09:21] <N9NU> is there a defferent name that this distro uses instead of "kernel-source"
[09:21] <ed__> the only issue appears to be the fixed font, where is it? :(
[09:21] <mpdr> blueskaj: yea, so i would hav to restart again
[09:21] <N9NU> its not listed in the source respository
[09:22] <ferron> i want to build a windows and linux cluster to render some animations
[09:22] <ed__> again the error is Jun 29 09:52:54 localhost NXNODE-3.0.0-71[5821] : ERROR: Error when monitoring session: Could not open default font 'fixed' 'NXSessionMonitor::__setSessionStatus'
[09:22] <jhutchins> ed__: In kcontrol, fonts, it'll show you what fonts are installed for what class.
[09:22] <ferron> i want to cluster all my old computers
[09:22] <BluesKaj> restart the install , mpdr?
[09:22] <jhutchins> ed__: Labels like "fixed" and "sans" select a generic family; the font configuration has a list of preferences for each family.
[09:23] <mpdr> blueskaj: yes
[09:23] <mpdr> blueskaj:?
[09:24] <BluesKaj> mpdr, what part of the install process are yoiu at now ?
[09:24] <coreymon77> hey guys
[09:24] <ed__> oh...I'd prefer using terminal to edit/view the font config, where is the font config file?
[09:24] <ed__> thanks :)
[09:24] <mpdr> blueskaj: prepare partitions part, im at manually
[09:24] <llutz> N9NU: linux-source
[09:24] <BluesKaj> hi coreymon77
[09:24] <brendon> ferron: You want beuwulf?
[09:24] <N9NU> linux-source
[09:24] <N9NU> ok
[09:24] <brendon> ferron: You want beowulf?
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> hey coreymon77
[09:25] <BluesKaj> well then go ahead, it's quite easy to do , mpdr
[09:25] <ferron> what's beowulf???
[09:25] <brendon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_%28computing%29
[09:25] <llutz> ferron: cluster-software like openmosix
[09:25] <ferron> can it be built at home
[09:25] <BluesKaj> maunuall partitioning is best in my view , mpdr
[09:25] <ed__> where is the font config file?
[09:26] <brendon> yes, you can build a cluster... that is the easy part
[09:26] <TeraDyne> Lappy asplode. I just wish I knew why my laptop crashes hard when I'm compiling something large...
[09:26] <brendon> ed__: Go and google!
[09:26] <BluesKaj> if yer gonna run linux , learning how to partition is important , mpdr
[09:26] <ferron> does it support task sharing ???
[09:27] <brendon> ferron: The hard part of a cluster is the software to use it.  What do you want to use it for?
[09:27] <tikiki> who inside this channel says google is your friend??
[09:27] <BluesKaj> google-linux does
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> !google
[09:27] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> the bot says so
[09:27] <ferron> i want to use for rendering
[09:27] <llutz> tikiki: if google is your friend you don't need enemies
[09:27] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, :)
[09:27] <ferron> i have blender 3d
[09:27] <ben_t> IF yahoo is your friend, you need some money.
[09:28] <ferron> and i am creating some animations
[09:28] <brendon> Ok, then you need to make sure your rendering software supports clustering
[09:28] <BluesKaj> opr er misguided
[09:28] <ferron> ok
[09:28] <brendon> and more importantly what clustering.
[09:28] <tikiki> im going to bash this one
[09:28] <brendon> Some programs can ad-hoc cluster, i.e. start a server on each machine and it just works
[09:28] <ferron> can it help in password hacking ???
[09:28] <brendon> Others require a lot of work to set up.
[09:29] <coreymon77> guys
[09:29] <N9NU> and the other one i could not find is "bash-completion" which is essential
[09:29] <coreymon77> how do you get something into the repos
[09:29] <coreymon77> or how do you get something into a repo for apt
[09:29] <mpdr> blueskaj: yes i agree, but im still not so clear on wat i hav to do
[09:29] <brendon> Clustering 101: how do you split the work up.  Do you need to communicate between bits and if so, how?
[09:30] <vzduch> hmm.. my K3b complains about not finding an MP3 decoder module.. libmad0 and lame are installed
[09:30] <llutz> vzduch: libk3b2-mp3
[09:30] <mpdr> blueskaj: would i hav to create an partition, if so wat type?
[09:31] <vzduch> ah, there we go.. thx llutz
[09:31] <vzduch> :)
[09:31] <brendon> ed__: To help you out.  Font paths start in xorg.conf
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: you mean the ubuntu managed repositories?
[09:31] <N9NU> disregard
[09:31] <BluesKaj> mpdr, it will ask you what size partition for kubuntu  , you will also need a swap , make it the same size up to 2gig
[09:32] <tobias86> hi
[09:32] <tobias86> :D
[09:32] <tikiki> hey bot u rock!
[09:32] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: the podcatching program called icepodder (the continuation program of the i/castpodder program) wants to get into an apt repository
[09:32] <BluesKaj> same size as your Memory
[09:32] <tobias86> im new on kubuntu.. :D
[09:32] <tobias86> so..
[09:32] <tobias86> i e got a quest,
[09:32] <tikiki> sure
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: try seveas
[09:32] <tobias86> how can i configure WLAN
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: he sometimes includes new apps and stuff
[09:32] <tobias86> ?
[09:33] <tikiki> go to system settings
[09:33] <brendon> Oh so many ways....:)
[09:33] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: is he online?
[09:33] <tobias86> its a LAPtOP with a PCMCI Card. from Belkin
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: not here, try #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu
[09:33] <tobias86> and i u think.. i ve to install a driver noo? :D
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: or if its a kde program, you can suggest it to the kubuntu devs
[09:34] <tobias86> if not. can i do it with the console?
[09:34] <tobias86> can me help somebody?
[09:34] <tobias86> :D
[09:35] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: its a podcatcher program, no particular desktop environment
[09:35] <tobias86> hmmmmmmmmmm
[09:35] <tobias86> ?????????
[09:35] <tobias86> :D
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: file a wishlist/bug request
[09:35] <brendon> Yes tobias86 you can do it from teh command line.
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> tobias86: what is the cipset, do you know?
[09:35] <brendon> step one, make sure you got the right device drivers, etc
[09:36] <tobias86> hmm.. i search it on google
[09:36] <brendon> Setep two, configure /etc/network/interfaces to connect to the AP
[09:36] <tobias86> just one problem.. i didnt found one.. :D
[09:36] <tobias86> just 4 windows.. .d
[09:36] <brendon> What did you search for?
[09:37] <tobias86> Belikin F5D7010
[09:37] <Arwen> hah, belkin
[09:37] <tobias86> yeah
[09:37] <Arwen> those things have like 20 revisions with the same name, all of which are incompatible :-\
[09:37] <BluesKaj> tobias86, try  http://google.com/linux
[09:38] <brendon> tobias86:  If you didn't get the install (or similar) to do it you need to know a fair amount of command line tools, or at least follow an online guide
[09:38] <brendon> are you sure it is not already set up?
[09:39] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: where would you file this
[09:39] <brendon> do a "man lspci" and then use lspci to see if the device is recognised
[09:39] <tobias86> hm i see it in the network settings.. but its down..
[09:39] <tobias86> inactiv..
[09:39] <llutz> tobias86: does "iwconfig" list the wlan-device?
[09:39] <brendon> If it shows up in networking, then it must have a driver, and is recognised
[09:39] <tobias86> yepp
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: launchpad
[09:40] <llutz> tobias86: sudo ifconfig <wlan-device> up
[09:40] <coreymon77> llutz: need some help, im typically good wiht wifi
[09:40] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: where in launchpad?
[09:40] <tobias86> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[09:40] <tobias86>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.437 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[09:40] <tobias86>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[09:40] <tobias86>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[09:40] <tobias86>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[09:40] <tobias86>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[09:40] <llutz> !paste| tobias86
[09:40] <ubotu> tobias86: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | tobias86
[09:41] <brendon> Sounds like you got it working.
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: good question... go to #ubuntu-motu and ask there
[09:41] <BluesKaj> oops
[09:41] <llutz> tobias86: WEP or WPA
[09:41] <brendon> You need to configure it to connect to an access point
[09:41] <llutz>  ?
[09:41] <tobias86> WEP
[09:41] <tobias86>  :D
[09:41] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 mode managed
[09:41] <nathan> anyone know the linux equvilent of Win-TV?
[09:41] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 enc open
[09:42] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 key 1a2b3c4d....
[09:42] <BluesKaj> nathan, what's wintv
[09:42] <llutz> tobias86: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <your-ssid>
[09:42] <llutz> tobias86: sudo dhclient eth1
[09:42] <VSpike> I keep getting a problem where the fonts in all my GTK apps suddenly get a lot smaller - has anyone else seen this or know how to fix it?
[09:42] <brendon> tobias86: Or just put all that muck in the /etc/network/interfaces file, after a quick man check for the format
[09:42] <nathan> windows TV - TV card software
[09:43] <llutz> brendon: he should do so after successfull test :)
[09:43] <BluesKaj> nathan, try tvtime
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> nathan: hows it going?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> !tvtime | Nathan
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <tobias86> hm but the LED on my card re down.. :(
[09:43] <nathan> ill search on adept / others for it
[09:43] <VSpike> I dunno, maybe it's all fonts in fact - it's hard to tell
[09:43] <bballin> i need an offtopic room please
[09:44] <tobias86> on windows they worked..
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> nathan: what are you trying to get?
[09:44] <tobias86> strange
[09:44] <alberto> alguien que hable espaol
[09:44] <brendon> llutz: but if he puts it in the file, then he can try many times quickly!
[09:44] <nathan> software for TV card
[09:44] <nathan> hey nos
[09:44] <TeraDyne> bballin: #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <llutz> brendon: bash-history is similar quick :)
[09:44] <nathan> alright mate you? Still not got DVD player working yet but ill get there
[09:44] <llutz> brendon: everyone has it's own way, sry
[09:44] <nathan> projectors working great :)
[09:44] <BluesKaj> nathan, which tv card ?
[09:44] <brendon> llutz: each his own poison :)
[09:44] <nathan> ahahaha.. thats a good question
[09:45] <nathan> unfortunately i dont know the ansewr cause im a bugger for keeping my books and boxes
[09:45] <BluesKaj> lspci might tell you
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin lspci
[09:46] <BluesKaj> nathan, we have to know the tv tuner card chipset in order to recommend drivers
[09:47] <nathan> 1 sec ill do what nosred said
[09:47] <nathan> !pastebin
[09:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:48] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27826/
[09:48] <khaije1> !module-assistant
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> nathan ^^^
[09:50] <nathan> hi
[09:50] <nathan> sorry
[09:50] <nathan> ermm pretty sure its not phillips? but i dunno
[09:51] <nathan> jus came as winTV + card lol..
[09:51] <nathan> 1 min ill av a look
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> its a Philips chip which is all that matters
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> and I have to go
[09:52] <ed__> hey, you know what would be a good idea?
[09:52] <root__> hi
[09:52] <nathan> ok so phillips chip
[09:52] <fabio> ciao
[09:52] <ed__> If there was a unified way for irc servers to log chat sessions and then archive them online mailing list style since these chats do contain plenty of good info...
[09:52] <ed__> hmm....
[09:52] <fabio> hello
[09:53] <root__> hey!....bolivia???...you????
[09:53] <TeraDyne> ed__: That... would actually be a great idea.
[09:53] <BluesKaj> yup, certainly seems like a philips alright , nathan, nosrednaekim...now to find drivers
[09:54] <Gerrit> Hi.
[09:54] <llutz> ed__: some of this you can find later at http://bash.org/           ;))
[09:54] <TeraDyne> I'm also needing those philips drivers. I've got a laptop tuner card that I'm wanting to use.
[09:54] <Gerrit> KNetworkManager has (seemingly suddenly) stopped listing available wireless devices. Where do I check for possible errors?
[09:55] <CyD> Gerrit, typing dmesg in a console may show any problems
[09:56] <TeraDyne> a quick modprobe + Tab shows several entries of "saaXXXX". I see a "saa7134", "saa7134-alsa", "saa7134-dvb", "saa7134-empress", and "saa7134-oss"
[09:57] <Gerrit> ok
[09:57] <CyD> Gerrit, also if you know the name of the wireless driver, you can ensure it is loaded with lsmod. iwconfig will say if it's loaded ok
[09:57] <Gerrit> My wireless network works.
[09:57] <TeraDyne> directed at BluseKaj. Sorry.
[09:57] <Gerrit> I am connect wirelessly.
[09:57] <Gerrit> It connects flawlessly, it's just not listed in KNetworkManager.
[09:57] <CyD> Gerrit, ah
[09:57] <TeraDyne> directed at BluesKaj, i mean.
[09:58] <pass> what is knetworkmanager is all about?
[09:58] <Gerrit> It doesn't say "No wireless networks found" either. It just doesn't mention them. When I investigate at Options, it states that Wireless is 'enabled'.
[09:58] <Gerrit> It's supposed to dynamically tell me what wireless networks are available. It worked until recently. I think it stopped working after an apt-get upgrade, but I'm not sure.
[09:59] <pass> what is KNetworkManager is all about?
[09:59] <CyD> it allows you to manage wired and wireless networks
[09:59] <CyD> it autoconnects to known networks
[09:59] <CyD> and chooses the best, etc
[09:59] <pass> why can't you just configure it manually?
[10:00] <CyD> pass, the ease of use of NetworkManager is why it is popular and has become standard so quickly
[10:00] <ubuntu_> da
[10:01] <punky> da
[10:01] <punky> si ce face ti
[10:01] <Gerrit> I can configure it manually, but I like NetworkManager, because it tells me which networks are around. I'm not sure how to do that by hand.
[10:01] <Gerrit> 'iwconfig' connects to a wireless network if possible
[10:01] <llutz> Gerrit: iwlist scan :)
[10:01] <Gerrit> "Interface doesn't support scanning."
[10:02] <CyD> Gerrit, well another option would be an alternate gui until you get knm figured out. sorry not sure what the prob is :(
[10:02] <Gerrit> But now I suddenly remember something I tried to change.
[10:02] <punky> a voi sunte ti cu linux
[10:02] <CyD> ah :)
[10:02] <punky> mda
[10:02] <punky> bun asa
[10:02] <punky> mai nenea
[10:02] <Gerrit> I suddenly remember that I reconfigured something. Let's see.
[10:03] <Gerrit> Yes. It works again.
[10:03] <Gerrit> I made a change to /etc/network/interfaces in an attempt to connect to the network at my university. It didn't work, I gave up, and forgot to change it back.
[10:03] <CyD> yay :)
[10:04] <Gerrit> 'iwlist scan' now works.
[10:04] <Gerrit> knetworkmanager doesn't but that's probably an issue of restarting the right tools or deamons.
[10:05] <killermach> anyone have xen setup?
[10:05] <Gerrit> Hm. My test is not correct. Before I reconfigured /etc/network/interfaces I tested 'iwlist scan' as an ordinary user, and afterwards as root. As an ordinary user, the output didn't change, so I don't know if changing /etc/network/interfaces back did it. I'm going to try to restart some stuff. BBL.
[10:06] <nathan> blue did ya manage to find any drivers?
[10:08] <draik> How do I use KRDC to connect to a computer?
[10:09] <draik> I entered the IP address and it doesn't give me the option to connect
[10:09] <Gerrit> Yay. Problem solved. (-:
[10:09] <Gerrit> Bye
[10:13] <fitoria_> how do i open winrar files in kubuntu?
[10:13] <Banjooie> You..hm. sudo apt-get install unrar in the terminal
[10:13] <Banjooie> that'll make it so ark can do it
[10:13] <Banjooie> Anyone know how to make it so print screen doesn't open ksnapshot?
[10:13] <fitoria_> ok
[10:14] <fitoria_> thanks
[10:16] <Praveen> heh how to play windows games in feisty fawn'
[10:17] <BluesKaj> !games
[10:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:17] <nathan> blue n e look with drivers
[10:21] <AnyKey> Oh HELP! :)  I can't log in to the desktop from my login screen on my feisty desktop?  I log in with my name and password and I hear the login sound and "POOF!", I am quickly brought back to the login screen like I never have tried to log in yet.  Any ideas?!
[10:27] <Banjooie> Hm, okay.
[10:28] <Banjooie> Have you recently installed a new windows manager, AnyKey?
[10:28] <andres_> hi i downloaded a Printer driver how can i install it ??? file name:20040224171022421_lpp-1.1.2-7-ppc.tar.gz
[10:28] <AnyKey> windows manager.. like bearyl.. oh .. what ever the spelling.. yes a few days ago but its worked fine for a sense then?
[10:29] <Arwen> andres_, by reading the instructions?
[10:29] <Arwen> I'd start by untarring myself, but...
[10:30] <Banjooie> Alright, what I'd suggest trying first is you want to go to the login screen, and change the window manager back to KDE and see if that works.
[10:30] <Arwen> KDE isn't a window manager
[10:31] <sweettooth> hey has anyone got problems transferring files back and from NTFS drives? i have an NTFS mobile drive and transferred once or twice, now it tells me that access is denied to certain folders of my mobile drive
[10:31] <AnyKey> I think Banjooie meant the KDE default... if so how and if thats the first best choice.  I have to do it in safe mode because I can't log in.  How do I type that out?
[10:32] <Banjooie> Arwen: Yes, technically it isn't, I'm aware, but it's what the menu option says.
[10:32] <Banjooie> Er, you can get to the name/password screen, can't you?
[10:32] <Banjooie> you can change whether or not to start in beryl fromt here, I'm pretty sure.
[10:32] <Banjooie> Arwen: You wouldn't happen to know how to disable ksnapshot turning on whenever I hit print screen, would you?
[10:33] <AnyKey> let me check, Banjooie
[10:33] <Arwen> nope
[10:33] <Banjooie> Dangit.
[10:33] <Arwen> in GNOME, that's done by messing with metacity's config, but I've never used KDE
[10:33] <Banjooie> out of all the things you can do in linux, that seems to be the impossible one. :PP
[10:34] <Banjooie> My attempts at googling brought up some guy doing it but not saying how and an avalanche of 'wow, having print screen open up a program no matter what is TOTALLY AWESOME'
[10:35] <AnyKey> Banjooie, When I choose "session type" and I choose KDE or Default, both only do the same thing and keep me in the login screen.  Only 'failsafe' works in bring up a CLI window.
[10:36] <Banjooie> ...hm, alright, thanks. In that case, I don't know.
[10:36] <thompa> is there a log for apt-get actions
[10:37] <thompa> i want to check on what was unistalled by apt?
[10:37] <AnyKey> Banjooie, Sorry but, was that "I don't know" statement of yours ment for my problem?
[10:37] <Banjooie> Yeah, yours, Anykey, my bad
[10:37] <AnyKey> lol.. np.
[10:38] <AnyKey> Anyone else here wiht some ideas on this problem who saw the original posting?
[10:38] <AnyKey> I can also repost it