[16:20] <WaltzingAlong> but it comes with ubuntu
[16:20] <WaltzingAlong> but i am using kubuntu
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> WaltzingAlong  it has some issues with KDE.
[16:20] <WaltzingAlong> yes they are the same but different
[16:21] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_Willis: but of course
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> it can work. and work decently well.. but  when kde4 comes out compiz wont be needed with kde. :) i hear.
[16:21] <arash> KDE4 has many effects?, well, I know I didn't like he screenshots too much. BUt it might be because it's the beta
[16:22] <AmyRose> Dr_Willis: It has issues with KDE?
[16:22] <Jucato> arash: it has effects. not all the same as Compiz. some are even better
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> AmyRose compiz has issues with everything... :)
[16:22] <ubuntu_> i just went to install it and it couldnt run is this because im on live cd
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> just some of them are really annoying.
[16:23] <Jucato> AmyRose: Compiz has issues with integrating well into KDE,specially kicker and virtual desktops
[16:23] <ubuntu_> it couldnt find it in E which i think is cd driver
[16:23] <AmyRose> Dr_Willis: Well, yeah, I disabled Compiz so I could play some games...
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> Troubleshooting 101 now. Step #1  - disable compiz see if the problem still exists...
[16:23] <AmyRose> You know, the games Linux doesn't have (but really does)
[16:23] <AmyRose> lol
[16:23] <Dragnslcr> It'll be interesting to see how KDE4's compositing compares to Compiz
[16:23] <ubuntu_> i have sabayon installe and im not sure if i should use kubuntu
[16:23] <ubuntu_> thats y i wanted to see if i could use compiz on live cd
[16:24] <Dragnslcr> And if games will crash X like they do with Compiz
[16:24] <ubuntu_> is gnome much better the kde
[16:24] <Jucato> ubuntu_: Compiz isn't installed by default on the Live CD
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_ the live cd's do not include the nvidia drivers by default. so  its proberlynot useable from the livecd
[16:24]  * Jucato sighs...
[16:24] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu_- it is if you like Gnome better
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> jwm - the ultimate window manager. :)
[16:24] <ubuntu_> coz i have both versions right here of ubuntu 7.10 and kubuntu 7.10 that i wanna install which should i do
[16:25] <ubuntu_> please someone help i cant decide
[16:25] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu_- Gnome and KDE are different. It's pretty much entirely personal preference
[16:25] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: Kubuntu
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_ you can easiallyinstall ubuntu, then install the kubuntu-desktop package to get kde.
[16:25] <ubuntu_> can u do the same on kubuntu and do gnome
[16:25] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: yes
[16:25] <arash> yes u can.
[16:25] <Dragnslcr> I just got a Dell system, and when I first booted it into Gnome, I thought it looked kinda like a Mac
[16:25] <ubuntu_> well in the end it doesnt matter onli thing if i install compiz will i need the kicker update
[16:25] <ubuntu_> for kde
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> or xubuntu-desktop. :) or mythbuntu, or....
[16:26] <ChrisAshton84> hi, first time user of any ubuntu flavor, anyone able to help me w/ nvidia?  i finally got the module to load but X still dies with it
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> ive not heard of any kicker-update
[16:26] <AmyRose> ChrisAshton84: Did you try using the restricted driver manager?
[16:26] <ubuntu_> on sabayon there was kicker update required
[16:26] <ubuntu_> so this does not apply to kubuntu with nvida driver
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_ sabayon is about as far from Ubuntu as a disrto can get.
[16:26] <Dragnslcr> ChrisAshton84- you can check /var/log/X.org.log for the reason that X is dying
[16:27] <ubuntu_> haha fair enuf
[16:27] <ubuntu_> will compiz be exatly the same on kubuntu then sabayon will der be a difference
[16:27] <ChrisAshton84> AmyRose: restricted-manager-core and restricted-manager-kde are installed along w/ the linux-restricted-modules
[16:27] <arash> ubuntu_ in case you got the both live CDs, why can't you just run both and then decide ;)
[16:27] <AmyRose> ChrisAshton84: But did you actually USE that to install the nvidia drivers?
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_ proberly very similer. No idwa what tweaks sybayon may of done.
[16:28] <ChrisAshton84> Dragnslcr: done that, the error is at http://pastebin.com/m50b2d955
[16:28] <ubuntu_> i did and think kde is the way to go i just dont wont the kicker to freeze after a compiz install and runnin with nvidia drivers
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_ never heard of that problem here.
[16:28] <ChrisAshton84> AmyRose: I did the whole nvidia-glx-config enable, and know how to edit xorg.conf by hand, it all looked right
[16:29] <ChrisAshton84> AmyRose: I'm not sure what the restricted manager stuff gives me
[16:29] <arash> quite creative of the KDE4 guys, when a application crashes: http://fbsd.za.net/other/uploads/uploads/kde4.jpg
[16:29] <Dragnslcr> ChrisAshton84- what nVidia card do you have?
[16:29] <ChrisAshton84> when I first booted there was a prompt to install the nvidia drivers, I used that
[16:29] <ChrisAshton84> Dragnslcr: 6800 GT
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> Hiku Error Messages?  :) Oh wait that was the BeOS
[16:30] <AmyRose> ChrisAshton84: Yeah, you should be going to System Settings and then to the Restricted Drivers manager. It does all this for you
[16:31] <alocke> 1
[16:31] <ChrisAshton84> AmyRose: last time I'd checked that it was enabled, this time it wasn't, I'll try it now
[16:31] <ChrisAshton84> do I need to do anything after checking that besides restart X?
[16:33] <ChrisAshton84> ok, looks like it did more to xorg.conf than the previous times, hope this works
[16:36] <the-erm> I have a problem with lirc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/123557 seems to be the problem, but I have no clue how to fix it :)
[16:36] <ubot3> Malone bug 123557 in lirc "lirc with livedrive on audigy2 zs" [Undecided,Fix released]
[16:36] <the-erm> It sounds like  the line with  post-install fixed it.
[16:36] <ubuntu> hi how do i create a swap space and should i do it or forget about it im installin kubuntu over sbayon partion ext3
[16:37] <the-erm> ubuntu you need to have a swap space.
[16:37] <ubuntu> how do i do it
[16:37] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- it's pretty much always a good idea to create a swap partition
[16:37] <oxywolf> Hi!
[16:37] <Jucato> ubuntu: you could use the same swap partition that you have in sabayon.
[16:37] <Jucato> (if you have one)
[16:38] <oxywolf> ??
[16:38] <ubuntu> how can i create it because i have a 320gig that is partition into to one 100gig and the other 200gig but i dont wanna touch 200 gig at all its onli data and cannot be formatted i didnt have a swap partion in sabayon so how do i create one
[16:38] <Tm_T> oxywolf: moi
[16:38] <oxywolf> moi!
[16:38] <the-erm> backup ...
[16:38] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to create a swap partition by taking space out of one of the other partitions
[16:39] <oxywolf> You must use someting disk ulity
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> you could always make a swap file later also if wanted.
[16:39] <the-erm> you gotta ask yourself ... is my data worth another hard drive.  Or would my life come crashing down without it.
[16:39] <spawn57`> having swap space is necessary, imo
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> I always put a little swap partition on all my hd's just in case. :)
[16:39] <ubuntu> where is disk utiltity i onli wanan take some from the one that im gonna install kubuntu on not my 200gig partition
[16:40] <ubuntu> 200 gig one cannot be touched at all
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> gparted is good at resizing partitions
[16:40] <ubuntu> im on the live cd
[16:40] <ubuntu> if i dont do a swap partition what will happen
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> gparted is on the live cd i do recall
[16:40] <abcd> Hello, i have old machine with 1ghz PIII and 256 MB of RAM. Has anybody a clue how to speed up loading of pictures on machine like that. I have kubuntu and use gvenview. Is there any faster program than gwenview? Sorry for my english
[16:40] <Dragnslcr> If gparted is already installed on the LiveCD, you can install it
[16:40] <Dragnslcr> Er, if it isn't already installed
[16:40] <spawn57`> swap lets' your system's performace degrade with grace, when your comp using too much memory it'll push unused programs to swap ..
[16:41] <the-erm> I think qtparted is installed on the kubuntu live cd.
[16:41] <ubuntu> so ur comp runs faster with swap space
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> abcd use a very light weight window manager, and try some other image viewer tools perhaps.
[16:41] <ubuntu> where can i find the qtparted
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> abcd ram is your limiting factor  it seems
[16:41] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- only if you use more memory than you have
[16:42] <ubuntu> what do u mean use more memory then i have is that wen swap kicks in
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> ive swap vs no swap arguments befor.. and normally they end up saying. "make a little swap partition" it wont hurt and can help big time.
[16:42] <ubuntu> i have 2gb memory
[16:42] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- if you have 2 GB of memory and never use all of it, swap probably won't be used at all
[16:42] <ubuntu> i just wnan know how to make a swap partion in the 100 gig partion ill use some of that
[16:42] <spawn57`> ubuntu: i have 1.5, but when i load up losta programs, swap gets used
[16:42] <abcd> Dr_Willis: thanks
[16:42] <Dragnslcr> And hard disk space is so dirt cheap that there's no reason to set aside 2-4 GB for swap
[16:43] <ubuntu> yer i would do that if i knew how lol
[16:43] <Dragnslcr> Er, no reason not to
[16:43] <ubuntu> im on step 4 of 6 in installation
[16:43] <ubuntu> and its where its askin me for swap partition
[16:43] <Dragnslcr> Man, I'm really having issues with negatives today
[16:43] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- is there an option to take space from an existing partition?
[16:44] <spawn57`> make a 512MB swap at least..
[16:44] <ubuntu> no i have edit delte and undo
[16:44] <ubuntu> in edit it jsut mount and they type of partion i put ext3
[16:44] <ubuntu> is dat good
[16:44] <ubuntu> and my media one is ntfs and thats not being touched at all
[16:44] <eagles0513875> :)
[16:45] <spawn57`> make another one more, and set it's type to swap
[16:45] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: u wanting rw access to it
[16:45] <ubuntu> i cant create a new one
[16:45] <spawn57`> really?
[16:46] <ubuntu> this is a bad situation just to create a swap partion from my 100 gig partion
[16:46] <eagles0513875> arash: :)
[16:47] <seriekrock> what was that package that fixed problems in kubuntu, like codecs and such?
[16:47] <ubuntu> please someone how to create it im in last steps of installin and stuck lol
[16:48] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: go back a few steps and manually edit the partition size and use it as swap
[16:48] <ubuntu> when i go edit how can i have it as swap i cant instal on swap
[16:48] <spawn57`> ubuntu: is this your first time installing ubuntu? or are you upgrading?
[16:49] <ubuntu> first time
[16:49] <_steve> I just managed to complete my Gutsy upgrade, but now have no sound. Kmix shows no mixers :(
[16:49] <spawn57> really? how'd that ext3 parittion get there?
[16:49] <ubuntu> from sabayon
[16:50] <spawn57> _steve: any idea what soundcard you have?
[16:50] <ubuntu> and i never created a swap with sabayon i didnt know how
[16:50] <spawn57> ubuntu: what's sabayon ...?
[16:50] <_steve> spawn57: it's on-board nvidia. worked fine in Feisty
[16:50] <ubuntu> another type of linux
[16:51] <spawn57> nvidia..dang what drivers does that one use again? ....
[16:51] <Skulker> You know that you can create a swap file with mkswap
[16:51] <spawn57> _steve: did you install linux-modules-restricted?
[16:51] <kubuntunewbie> is there an advantage to using more then one linux environment? are there any good programs that will work on an environment that wont work on an other environment?
[16:52] <_steve> spawn57: not sure
[16:52] <spawn57> _steve: so you're killing sabayon? and installing ubuntu ontop?
[16:52] <joerack> umm I'm starting to like this kde... hope it hasn't added bugs compared to gnome
[16:52] <spawn57> _steve: check with adept =]
[16:53] <_steve> spawn57: Sabayon must be someone else. I just upgrade Feisty to Gutsy
[16:53] <spawn57> _steve: ..or if you know your way around cli, I can help youcheck with konsole..
[16:53] <_steve> that's fine
[16:53] <spawn57> ubuntu : so you're killing sabayon? and installing ubuntu ontop?
[16:53] <ubuntu> yep
[16:54] <_steve> spawn57: looks like I have older restricted modules 2.6.20, but 2.6.22 is in adept
[16:54] <Dragnslcr> kubuntunewbie- you mean desktop environment (e.g. Gnome and KDE)?
[16:54] <spawn57> _steve: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:54] <kubuntunewbie> Dragnslcr: yes
[16:55] <_steve> spawn57: correction, I have both installed
[16:55] <poison--> !backup
[16:55] <ubot3> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[16:55] <_steve> spawn57: but not that one
[16:55] <Dragnslcr> kubuntunewbie- I believe that all Gnome apps can run in KDE and all KDE apps can run in Gnome
[16:55] <spawn57> ubuntu: kill the current ext3 partition, make a new ext3 and swap partition
[16:55] <ninhobomba> hello im upgrading from feisty to gutsy.... but the upgrade tool seems to be frozen... what do i do?
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> I mixx and match kde + gnome apps all the time
[16:55] <ubuntu> how do i kill it and make to new partions
[16:55] <kubuntunewbie> Dragnslcr: what about that one that starts with an X whats that all about?
[16:55] <spawn57> _steve: check your crrent kernel version using uname -r
[16:55] <Thonolan> !alsa
[16:55] <ubot3> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:56] <_steve> spawn57: 2.6.22-14-386
[16:56] <Dragnslcr> kubuntunewbie- you mean XFCE?
[16:56] <spawn57> _steve:  you're just missing the restricted modules I think, install'em
[16:56] <kubuntunewbie> Dragnslcr: yeah
[16:57] <Dragnslcr> _steve- what kind of CPU do you have?
[16:57] <joerack> eagles0513875: you still there? cos i might still have a problem with this disk
[16:57] <joerack> or anybody...
[16:57] <_steve> spawn57: should I remove the 2.6.20 one? do I need to do something to make it use the new one? I have an AMD X2
[16:57] <Dragnslcr> kubuntunewbie- I've never used it, but I would guess that it can run Gnome and KDE apps
[16:57] <ubuntu> how do i kill partition and make 2 new ones  one being swap
[16:57] <spawn57> _steve: don't need to, hold on to'em for now
[16:58] <ubuntu> would that be delete partiton
[16:58] <spawn57> kill 2.6.17 though, it's a bit old now
[16:58] <Skulker> ubuntu: With what tool?
[16:58] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- parted/gparted/qtparted should be able to make a swap partition out of an existing one
[16:58] <spawn57> ubuntu: yeap
[16:58] <ubuntu> where do i find these programs
[16:58] <ninhobomba> the distribution upgrade tool froze while installing what ive downloaded all night, what do i do?
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> xfce is more closely linked to gnome. BUt it can run kde apps also.  theres no real reason  with any window manager running any other X apps. reguardless of what 'desktop' they are for.  There might be some littel issues. depending on the app.
[16:58] <spawn57> Dragnslcr: the current ext3 partition he has is
[16:58] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- check Adept
[16:58] <ubuntu> check what lol
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> gparted should be in the menus somewhere.
[16:58] <spawn57> Dragnslcr: the current ext3 partition he has is for another linux distro, he might as well delete it and create two new parittions
[16:59] <_steve> spawn57: do I have to restart something to make sound work?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> or run it from the shell with 'sudo gparted'
[16:59] <waltercool> hallo
[16:59] <spawn57> _steve: naw, you just have to load the right drivers, using modprobe <driver name>
[16:59] <spawn57> _steve: I'm not sure what driver you need though, I haven't worked with nvidia's onboard sound =\
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> If installing Over a existing linux install. which you dont want to keep..  id just delete the linux partition and leave a section of the HD 'unallocated' and let the installer auto parition the hd as it wants
[17:00] <waltercool> in live cd, i tried to update kdelibs (new) and i cant use kopete, why this can happen?
[17:00] <spawn57> Dr_Willis: exactly what i'm telling him to do =]
[17:00] <ubuntu> but i have 2 partitons one 100gig and 1 200gig the 200gig cannot be touched so i want to take a section of the 100gig to swap
[17:00] <Skulker> waltercool: /usr/sbin/fdisk -l <hdaname> will show partitions
[17:00] <spawn57> _steve: which nforce board do you have 2,3,4 ?...
[17:00] <waltercool> ?
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu you want to keep that other data thats on the 100gb  partition?
[17:01] <waltercool> Skulker: My problem is with kopete
[17:01] <jan__> I need a programm to mount an iso image
[17:01] <ubuntu> no the data thatson 200gig i dont care bout data on 100gig
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[17:01] <ubot3> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[17:01] <ninhobomba> should i quit the distribution upgrade if its frozen?
[17:01] <spawn57> ubuntu, create a linux parittion first, and select the check box that says "fill up mamxium space available" or something like that, then create a swap partition of 512M
[17:01] <_steve> spawn57: nforce 4 I think
[17:01] <ubuntu> yer but where do i click create swap partition
[17:02] <Skulker> walterkool: My bad
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu then just  delete the 100gb partition,  so its unallocated.. start the installer  - let it make the partition layout/install to the unallocated space.
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> it will make a / and a swap partition by default
[17:02] <waltercool> Skulker: U know how fix kopete?? dont try to login
[17:02] <spawn57> ubuntu, as you normally would create an ext3 pratition,  ..just under 'type' select swap
[17:02] <ubuntu> but how do i do that with it not touchin my 200gig driver at all
[17:03] <ubuntu> under whre type selct swap
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu if you delete the 100gb PARTITION - it wont be touching the 200gb partition
[17:03] <ubuntu> so i click delete and it comes up unallocated space
[17:03] <spawn57> yes
[17:04] <ubuntu> then i go create and it goes ext3 and no swap
[17:04] <spawn57> delete the 100GB parittion only
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu the Installer can make the partitions - you dont need to make them beforhand
[17:04] <spawn57> yeah, make another one after that, 512MB and change the type to swap,
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Just free up somd disk space thats unallocated
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Or ya can make a 512mb swap, and a 2nd partition ebforhand.
[17:05] <ubuntu> i got a 2 gig swap do i put it as primary or logical and wat mount do i sleect
[17:05] <ubuntu> also location for new partion beginin or end
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> you proberly dont need 2gb of swap.  when in doubt make them primary
[17:06] <ubuntu> what about mount point my other one is /
[17:06] <joerack> can anybody explain me why every .deb i try to install it refuses closing the window?
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> swap dsent have a mount point
[17:06] <ubuntu> oh okai so leave it blank
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> joerack install them from the shell?
[17:06] <ubuntu> do i put swap at beginin or at the end
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu all you really need to do is leave the 100gb part of the HD unallocated. the installer can auto create the / and swap partitions.
[17:07] <ubuntu> does the swap drive need to be formatted
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> it dosent matter ubuntu the installer will find it. and can format it
[17:07] <ubuntu> i got it now swap and normaller
[17:07] <ubuntu> ill clickt he box to swap but do i put it at the beginin or better to put it at then end
[17:07] <ubuntu> ill format both of them no drama
[17:08] <joerack> Dr_Willis: from console?
[17:08] <ubuntu> just wanna know beginin or end
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu the installer will want to format them befor it starts installing anyway
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu flip a coin. it dosent matter. :) i put mine at the end.
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> You are doing a lot of busy work for no gain.
[17:08] <spawn57> usually end is better I think
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> joerack sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> Best is on a different hard drive. :)
[17:09] <joerack> Dr_Willis: i know how that works. but I'm asking why gui deb installer is bugged
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> joerack  you READ the error messages that it spits out - if any
[17:09] <joerack> so much for kde user friendlyiness
[17:09] <joerack> ok
[17:09] <trpr_> ...
[17:10] <spawn57> heh
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> joerack   you are overriding the use of 'adept' by downloading .deb files manually - THATS the 'problem' thats not how a user-friendly-user - would do things
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> dont download .debs use the package manager tools.
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> is the 'keeping things friendly answer'
[17:11] <spawn57> Dr_Willis: I had to use debs a few times =|
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> If the user decides to totally trash the system that makes Linux user UNfriendly?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> spawn57 and i always use the SHELL to instll them :)
[17:11] <stamen> can anybody give me the xine.config file for kaffeine
[17:11] <stamen> because I delete it by mistake
[17:11] <joerack> Dr_Willis: no offence, but an ex-windows user will always try to find the easier route
[17:11] <spawn57> Dr_Willis: had to install it for the kdelibs bug that messes up kopete =(
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> joerack the easy route IS to fire up 'adept' and search/click install.
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> spawn57 not seen that one yet.
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> joerack what are you isntlling anyway?
[17:12] <spawn57> Dr_Willis: crashes when trying to use msn messenger
[17:12] <joerack> you'll laugh if I tell you
[17:12] <joerack> Envy.
[17:12] <biovore> oO
[17:12] <spawn57> whats' envy?
[17:13] <trpr> i think thats the script that makes you envy people who havn't run it
[17:13] <joerack> driver auto installerfor lazy peeps
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> if you are wanting to use envy - you better get experienced with the shell, and troubleshooting your system
[17:13] <trpr> someone hit the bot ;)
[17:13] <spawn57> trpr: hehehe
[17:13] <toby> spawn: An nvidia configurator
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> envy can break things very badly. :)
[17:13] <spawn57> ah ...
[17:13] <Thonolan> which command i need to show me which hw file my soundcard use ?
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> i seem tobe the only one that 'restricted-manager' tool works for flawlessly? :)
[17:13] <spawn57> Thonolan: as in drivers? /proc/asound
[17:14] <spawn57> and it's a whole dir full of stuff =D
[17:14] <_steve> spawn57: I needed to install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386 and use modprobe snd-hda-intel. Got sound! Thanx muchly
[17:15] <spawn57> _steve: glad to help =]
[17:15] <PolitikerNEU> I got a problem: Hibernate works under kubuntu 7.10 but suspend does not. Is there anything I can try to make it work?
[17:15] <Ciccio> hi
[17:15] <poison--> llo peeps
[17:16] <Ciccio> I got a problem, I did an upgrade from feisty to gutsy...
[17:16] <Ciccio> I used kde...
[17:16] <Ciccio> now I got my new kde... but with a lot of icons missing
[17:16] <Ciccio> as if icon themes are not complete...
[17:16] <eagles0513875> joerack: im back
[17:17] <Ciccio> for example knetworkmanager... is missing its own icon and I see in tray default icon (a white sheet), same for adept-notifier or some other apps...
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> Ciccio try a new user - seeif it affects them also
[17:17] <Ciccio> did
[17:17] <Ciccio> nothing
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> if it dosent. it may be your .kde settings
[17:17] <patricio> hm, adept crashes here with gutsy :I
[17:17] <Ciccio> same behaviour...
[17:18] <waltercool> kopete crash here too
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> Ciccio odd. theres severalother kde icon themes you could try installing. It may kick somthing in the head.
[17:18] <Thonolan> spawn57: i need to find out which file i put into arts to use my own soundcard
[17:18] <Ciccio> did...
[17:18] <Ciccio> ;)
[17:18] <spawn57> which...file..?
[17:18] <Ciccio> I don't know If the same icons are missing...
[17:18] <angelo> hi there is someone that have cut and paste problems whit kubuntu gutsy?
[17:18] <Ciccio> or better.... now I can think about... If i create a new user
[17:19] <Ciccio> I've got no icons at all!
[17:19] <spawn57> Thonolan: you mean you're not using alsa?
[17:19] <Ciccio> until I choose some icon theme...
[17:19] <Ciccio> so maybe default icons are missing?!
[17:19] <Thonolan> spawn57: for example before i try to update to gutsy i use this under arts : plughw:1
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> angelo cut/pasteing of files or text snippits?
[17:19] <Ciccio> in which kde deb package I can find them? (to check if it's installed)
[17:19] <angelo> when a cut a file it make copy
[17:20] <trpr> try kde-icons-crystal
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> angelo thats a bug in Dolphin i do belive
[17:20] <spawn57> Thonolan: oh, I dunno about that =|
[17:20] <Ciccio> trpr: is the one I'm using... I get some of the crystal icons....
[17:20] <Thonolan> spawn57: so I had sound and i use alsa
[17:20] <trpr> i just noticed its not installed on my system though, and i'm not experiencing icon issues
[17:20] <Ciccio> but other ar missing....
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> angelo ive heard several people mention the issue when using Dolphin and cut/pasteing to/from the desktop/dirs
[17:20] <trpr> hrm :\
[17:20] <Ciccio> for example
[17:20] <Thonolan> spawn57: np
[17:20] <Ciccio> adept
[17:20] <Ciccio> is completely iconless now
[17:21] <Ciccio> application and menu toolbar...
[17:21] <angelo> ok thanks dr_willis
[17:22] <tharun> hi, can someone tell me how I can switch over to the new ATI drivers and use AIGLX for compiz instead of XGL?
[17:22] <_steve> just noticed another Gutsy issue. It's only using one of my CPU cores on my AMD X2 :(
[17:22] <arash> _steve, I wouldn't be surpirsed if mine does too (on 7.04), how did you find out its only using one?
[17:23] <trpr> Ciccio: check /usr/share/icons/Crystal .. its filled with directories full of icons? dpkg -L <pkg> is telling me that's where the files should be
[17:23] <Ciccio> yes it is
[17:23] <Ciccio> but, for example...
[17:23] <_steve> arash: I run distributed.net and top showed only one running rather than two
[17:23] <Ciccio> adept package put its icons in
[17:23] <Ciccio>  /usr/share/icons/hicolor...
[17:24] <Ciccio> it seems as kde don't check also "default" apps icon folders...
[17:24] <Ciccio> *doesn't
[17:25] <paolo> :)
[17:25] <tharun_> hi, can someone tell me how I can switch over to the new ATI drivers and use AIGLX for compiz instead of XGL?
[17:26] <trpr> Ciccio: you also have hicolor-icon-theme installed? dpkg informs me its the default fallback theme. i dunno exactly what is going on :
[17:27] <paolo> bye
[17:27] <Ciccio> exacly trpr
[17:27] <Qrawl> !mysql
[17:27] <ubot3> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:27] <Ciccio> is the default icon theme
[17:27] <Ciccio> for example
[17:28] <Ciccio> for apps that have got icons not "themed" by other themes, kde should find icons in that folder
[17:28] <eagles0513875> arash: time for the moment of truth to see if the update worked brb need to restart
[17:28] <Ciccio> and I've installed such theme of course... but it's as kde doesn't check icons there...
[17:30] <hellhound666> i am having trouble getting xbindkeys to autostart.  I have tried creating a symbolic link, a bash script, and copying the program all to the Autostart kde folder.  I do not have anything else in the folder, but for some reason it will not start unless I manually go the folder and double click on the link/script/program
[17:30] <neighborlee> good morn..I followed docs in kde HELP from MENU to    get dvd playback of encripted disks to work but im getting the following error: sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found ..known issue ?
[17:31] <maverick_> Does anyone know where should i put my script if i want to execute just by typing command from anywhere?! i know i should put it in /usr/local/bin......i am asking where if i want it to be execlusive for my uuser
[17:31] <maverick_> ?
[17:31] <neighborlee> maverick_: /home/myuser
[17:32] <sacater> how do i install kde themes?
[17:32] <maverick_> neighborlee: u mean i should just put it in ~/ and i would be able to call it from anywhere ??
[17:32] <stdin> maverick_: ~/bin
[17:32] <sacater> like this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/RessMonitor?content=68541&PHPSESSID=9dee86813bb75ce78e35244958b962a4
[17:32] <maverick_> stdin: thnx
[17:32] <maverick_> neighborlee: thnx
[17:32] <sacater> !themes
[17:32] <tharun_> !aiglx
[17:32] <ubot3> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[17:32] <ubot3> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[17:33] <sacater> !changethemes
[17:33] <ubot3> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[17:33] <Qrawl> should I use this on Kubuntu:   sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[17:33] <Qrawl> or is that only for Ubuntu
[17:33] <eagles0513875> wow
[17:34] <stdin> Qrawl: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same except for the desktop environment, commands will work on both
[17:34] <eagles0513875> i didnt even know they added a thing to automatically configure the restriced stuff
[17:34] <Qrawl> stdin, ty
[17:34] <neighborlee> !dvd
[17:34] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:34] <hellhound666> sacater: the RessMonitor theme you linked is for a program call Karamba (see "Type" listing)  You will need this program
[17:35] <eagles0513875> :)
[17:35] <eagles0513875> arash: hey
[17:35] <arash> eagles0513875: hi
[17:36] <eagles0513875> arash: :)
[17:36] <tharun_> !aiglx
[17:36] <ubot3> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[17:36] <snikker> with compiz enabled i'ge got 8 virtual desktop in the kicker. how can i fix this?
[17:37] <tharun> !xgl
[17:37] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:37] <Skylan> hi to all.
[17:37] <Skylan> can anyone say me, kubuntu supports udma66 controllers?
[17:37] <stdin> snikker: remove the pager applet, or disable compiz. there is no "fix"
[17:38] <eagles0513875> arash: need to restart my comp again lol
[17:38] <hellhound666> snikker: you need to adjust the horizontal & vertical virtual sizes in the General ->Desktop Size
[17:38] <arash> eagles0513875: tbh, I dont know even what you were doing in the first place
[17:38] <snikker> stdin: oh, ok thanks
[17:38] <snikker> hellhound666: ok, now i try
[17:39] <eagles0513875> arash:  for me the it brrought up a thing to ask me if i wanted to enable ay restricted drivers so i enabled my video card and wifi
[17:39] <eagles0513875> arash: brb
[17:40] <Skylan> may be my computer with udma66 so old, that not runs kubuntu...
[17:41] <vanush__> how can i watch stage6 videos
[17:41] <pauljw> snikker: go into configure desktop; multiple-desktops and make sure you only have one desktop selected.  your desktop is now a 4 sided cube and will increase in multiple of 4 even though they will be repeats of the original because you can only have one cube.
[17:42] <trpr> Skylan: depends on the chipset, but unless you have something funky, that's supported
[17:42] <stdin> !codecs | vanush__
[17:42] <ubot3> vanush__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:42] <pauljw> snikker: at least that was the way that beryl worked, i don't use compiz-fusion so i don't know for certain that they are the same.
[17:43] <Qrawl> why is compiz default in ubuntu but not kubuntu
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> because with kde4 - it wont be needed.. and compiz is flakey
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:43] <Qrawl> oh really .  is KDE4 that good
[17:43] <trpr> it aims to be :)
[17:44] <viktor_> hi i have just installed kubuntu and need to get compiz running could someone guide me through this
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> im  often thinking  they shouldent  of included compiz in ubuntu - given the # of questions i see people have with it.
[17:44] <stdin> !compiz | viktor_
[17:44] <ubot3> viktor_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:44] <Skylan> trpr:i have Promise Ultra 66, kubuntu install recognize it, but don't operate correctly
[17:44] <eagles0513875> arash: hey
[17:44] <BluesKaj> no one "needs" compiz  :>)
[17:44] <Qrawl> Dr_Willis, In Ubuntu, is it on by default
[17:44] <pauljw> Dr_Willis: i agree, flakey eye candy...  :)
[17:45] <Qrawl> yes but it impresses potential Windows converts
[17:45] <stdin> Qrawl: it's only on by default in ubuntu with certain hardware/drivers, not for all
[17:45] <Qrawl> oh
[17:45] <eagles0513875> Qrawl: what does
[17:45] <origaman> I need compiz.
[17:45] <Qrawl> Compiz
[17:45] <eagles0513875> oh
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> 'need' compiz.. heh heh.. yea.. :)
[17:45]  * biovore hates compiz..
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Qrawl, the problem is it's so graphics card dependent
[17:45] <origaman> It's not only about eye candy.
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> it has some neat features.. which are overshadowed by the lame eyecandy
[17:45] <hellhound666> i am having trouble getting xbindkeys to autostart.  I have tried creating a symbolic link, a bash script, and copying the program all to the Autostart kde folder.  I do not have anything else in the folder, but for some reason it will not start unless I manually go the folder and double click on the link/script/program
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> i do like the inverse/zoom features
[17:45] <origaman> I really love the input enabled zoom and the scale plugins
[17:46] <snikker> pauljw: it work. thanks!
[17:46] <pauljw> yw
[17:46] <Qrawl> wow, installing LAMP is too easy now.   sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[17:46] <Qrawl> done
[17:46] <origaman> And, yeah the negation feature ;-)
[17:46] <Ciccio> uhm
[17:47] <Ciccio> I'm missing env.d dir in /etc... maybe something connected to this?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> i dont have an env.d either
[17:47] <Ciccio> uhm
[17:47] <Ciccio> not anymore used?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> aparently not. :)
[17:48] <Ciccio> damn...
[17:48] <Ciccio> this will drive me crazy
[17:53] <SpoZen> need some help with cups here, why does every Parallel Port #1 say (canon) or (epson)?
[17:54] <awag> #compiz
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> you use those i think IF you have a epson.cannon printer. its a special port just for those 2
[17:54] <awag> oops
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> SpoZen there should be a different parrallel port for the other printer if you got one.
[17:54] <awag> where is a good place to get help with compiz?
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[17:54] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:55] <eagles0513875> lol seems like everyone wants compiz lol
[17:55] <SpoZen> i have an HP printer
[17:55] <eagles0513875> :)
[17:55] <eagles0513875> that was so much easier this time to get my open gl to work
[17:56] <free1> stop
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> SpoZen under gutsy i just plug in my printer and the darn thing poped up a dialig and  let me set it up. :) it was amazing.
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> That was usb however
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> I got a Parallel port -> usb adaptor that is darn handy for those older printers
[17:57] <SpoZen> yea
[17:57] <free1> yeah, I liked kde a lot... but nothing worked
[17:57] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: same with me and my video card it and wifi
[17:57] <free1> ... not the cd burner
[17:57] <free1> nor the sound
[17:57] <free1> or headphones
[17:57] <SpoZen> my sound doesnt wor either
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> sound is not technicially a 'kde' issue
[17:57] <SpoZen> but its a driver issue
[17:57] <neighborlee> my sound worked fine..YMMV
[17:57] <free1> but it works fine while running gnome
[17:58] <free1> so ymmv for gnome
[17:58] <free1> but kde looks and feels better
[17:58] <eagles0513875> arash: hey guess what
[17:58] <neighborlee> ymmv ;)
[17:58] <free1> even the email was a bit screwy
[17:59] <neighborlee> free1: what is your hardware
[17:59] <free1> the card is..
[17:59] <free1> hda ati sb
[17:59] <free1> with a chipset of Realtek alc861-vd
[18:00] <free1> I tried diffeerent settings in the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base... to no avail
[18:00] <sonic> SpoZen: have you messed around with Kmix?
[18:01] <Qrawl> thats odd.  I did  sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin , and it installed, but where is it?  it's not in  /var/www
[18:01] <sonic> SpoZen: I have had problems with the default audio channel and had to change mine before in kde
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> thers some sound cards/chipsets that have no Linux drivers at all. :( or they got bugs that make them not work at this time. which sucks
[18:02] <sonic> SpoZen: for some reason I always have change the main volume channel to "analog front"
[18:02] <Anacrusis> What could this mean? error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: invalid ELF header
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> On my old audigy card i always had to enable the digital out.
[18:03] <Qrawl> shouldnt phpmyadmin be in  /var/www ?
[18:03] <hellhound666> what is the equivalent to "ipconfig -release" / "ipconfig -renew" in linux?
[18:03] <free1> I must concur with the good doctor... however,
[18:04] <free1> since I had no problems with fiesty or gutsy under gnome...
[18:04] <free1> and everything went to pot with kubuntu
[18:04] <free1> I feel like I must be missing something.
[18:05] <awag> is there a !seen script on the bot in this channel?
[18:05] <eagles0513875> what does it men when u try to play a stream in amarok no sutible demux plug
[18:05] <sonic> free1: read what I said to SpoZen,  Ive had issues with kmix and had to mess with the channels before to find the right one for my volume
[18:06] <eagles0513875> !wine
[18:06] <ubot3> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[18:06] <sonic> if it works in gnome I dont see why it wouldnt work with kde, since the drivers are independant of the DE
[18:06] <free1> thank you sonic
[18:06] <eagles0513875> arash: could u help me out dude
[18:07] <sonic> free1: its a long shot, but it has to be a kde setting
[18:07] <zigonick> where can i get a fresh copy of .bashrc ?
[18:07] <sonic> if it works in gnome that is. do you have gnome installed alongside kde in kubuntu?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> zigonick could check the /etc/skel directory
[18:08] <free1> yes, I do have gnome installed as well
[18:08] <free1> actually...
[18:08] <sonic> ok, so the kubuntu isnt a fresh install, just added from repository. and sound works in gnome.  theres gotta be a way to get to the bottom of this
[18:08] <free1> true story...
[18:09] <free1> I had gnome only
[18:09] <free1> than I went to the install fest at my loco and also put the new gutsy kubuntu
[18:09] <free1> than there was no sound
[18:09] <free1> I did a fresh install of only ubuntu-gutsy...
[18:10] <free1> the speakers have no sound... but the headphones do.
[18:10] <kubuntunewbie> free1: that doesnt sound good
[18:10] <free1> I believe you; there has to be a way to get to the bottom of this
[18:10] <free1> k-newbie,
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> that sounds like the mixer needs to be twiddled with.
[18:11] <free1> no headphones would be infinitely worse ;)
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> some soundcards have 'software' programable jacks also.
[18:11] <kubuntunewbie> free1: have you tried pluging your speakers into the headphone jack?!?!
[18:11] <kubuntunewbie> free1: maybe the speakers arent working
[18:11] <free1> I meant that the laptop speakers do not work
[18:11] <sonic> free1: ok, so do the speakers work in gnome? and you have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages installed?
[18:11] <kubuntunewbie> free1: ahh its a lappy
[18:12] <free1> sonic,
[18:12] <kubuntunewbie> free1: i had the same prob and i just messed with kmix and it worked
[18:12] <free1> the speakers worked in dapper
[18:12] <TameLion> Hi all
[18:12] <free1> it's a dual boot, and they work under the evil empire's OS
[18:12] <eagles0513875> i have a problem guys i installed gcj but for some reason a shortcut doesnt show up in any catagory in the k menu
[18:13] <free1> I tried, what I thought, was everything messing with kmix
[18:13] <free1> actually, sonic,
[18:13] <kubuntunewbie> free1: by default in 7.10 the PCM is set at 0, and i had to put mine up to get sound on lapp speakers
[18:13] <kubuntunewbie> free what is evil empire's OS?
[18:13] <sonic> kubuntunewbie: ive have to mess with kmix *everytime* ive installed or upgraded.  Hoping kde4 new sound backend will some this
[18:13] <free1> Vista
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> i normally install the other alsa mixers' they seem a bit more advanced/tweakabel then kmix
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> !find mixer
[18:13] <ubot3> Found: alsamixergui, asmixer, aumix, aumix-gtk, gnome-alsamixer (and 11 others)
[18:13] <eagles0513875> kubuntunewbie: i didnt have to adjust the pcm on mine
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Yea. alsamixer   and the others. :) i normally use
[18:14] <kubuntunewbie> eagles0513875: i duno, it did it for me like 10 times
[18:14] <eagles0513875> kubuntunewbie: did u do a fresh install
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> !info gcj
[18:14] <ubot3> gcj: The GNU Java compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.1-4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 48 kB
[18:14] <patricc> since updating to gutsy gibbon, I can't play avi files. What codecs do I need? has this a connection to the "fobidden word" libdvdcss?
[18:14] <sonic> I always have to change my main to analog front...
[18:14] <kubuntunewbie> eagles0513875: yes, but sometimes when i boot up it sets to 0 again, kinda annoying i duno
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> I dont recall ever seeing an icon for the compilers.  or other command line tools.
[18:15] <eagles0513875> ok dose gcj have an ide
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> patricc codec you needs depends on the avi file. :)
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Theres a kubuntu-restricted-somthing package that has most of them.
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> !find restricted
[18:15] <ubot3> Found: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-powerpc, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-powerpc-smp, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-powerpc64-smp, linux-restricted-modules-common, linux-restricted-modules-powerpc (and 8 others)
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> !find kubuntu-restricted
[18:15] <ubot3> Found: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:15] <patricc> Dr_Willis: sure. Well it's always the same, the videos are not played at all, but the scroll bar is moving very fast to the end
[18:16] <viktor_> comp froze had to restart x
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> Install that kubuntu-restricted-extras for a start
[18:16] <viktor_> compiz isnt runnin now
[18:16] <viktor_> i want it to run on start up
[18:16] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: why is it in amarok it keeps saying no demux plugin found for me
[18:16] <patricc> Thanks Dr_Willis
[18:17] <eagles0513875> im downloading pkgs that i need and every time at the end it keeps saying ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[18:18] <eagles0513875> !search java ide
[18:18] <ubot3> Found: etiquette, binarydriver, alternatives, keyboard, samba, picard, gtk, terminal, packagingguide, smartphone
[18:18] <eagles0513875> !etiquette
[18:18] <ubot3> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[18:18] <eagles0513875> lol
[18:18] <eagles0513875> !search ide
[18:19] <eagles0513875> !ide
[18:19] <ubot3> Factoid ide not found
[18:20] <patricc> Dr_Willis: the restricted package did the trick, thanks a lot
[18:20] <hellhound666> i am having trouble getting xbindkeys to autostart.  I have tried creating a symbolic link, a bash script, and copying the program all to the Autostart kde folder.  I do not have anything else in the folder, but for some reason it will not start unless I manually go the folder and double click on the link/script/program
[18:22] <dthacker> I've just done a fresh install of gutsy on my laptop, and it does not recognize the hardwired ethernet port.  How can I get it to see that port to pull security updates?
[18:27] <ksivaji> !wacoms
[18:27] <ubot3> Factoid wacoms not found
[18:27] <^Costeno^> ESPAÑOL?
[18:27] <ksivaji> !wacom
[18:27] <ubot3> Factoid wacom not found
[18:27] <dthacker> !es | ^Costeno^
[18:27] <ubot3> ^Costeno^: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[18:28] <^Costeno^> thanks
[18:28] <AmyRose> I'm trying to do an assignment for a computer class in OpenOffice.org and need some help. It's asking me to make my spreadsheet cell width 80, and the directions were written for Excel. Does anyone here know how to translate that into a real-world measurement like inches or mm?
[18:28] <neighborlee> Im a bit dissapointed how convulted this whole 'how to playack encripted dvd' thing seems to be..I get that its 'illegal' in most areas but EU ( go THEM <G> ), but really this is a sad deal...a 'windows friendly' friend could n ot figure it out and asked for my help..Im embarrased to tell her just how  convulted the process really is ;)
[18:29]  * AmyRose hates Excel...
[18:29] <neighborlee> maybe lin/freespire is right about just paying and getting over with it already I dont know ;)).....patents are such lovely ecnomic stimulators aren't they ;)
[18:29] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis :D
[18:30] <ksivaji> my system often hangs after upgrading to gutsy ,Xorg.log says "Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom  No such file or directory"
[18:30] <dthacker> never mind, I had to put in a static address,  I suspect DHCP problems on this network
[18:30] <lovre> how do i make k3b burn mp3 under kubuntu??
[18:31] <lovre> !burn
[18:31] <ubot3> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[18:31] <lovre> !mp3
[18:31] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:31] <dthacker> lovre: you should be able to drag and drop the mp3 files.
[18:31] <ksivaji> even system setting also not working http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kdeerrorjr4.png
[18:32] <lovre> it cannot burn mp3, no support, i read somewhere i need to install a plugin but cant find it
[18:33] <flash> anyone here?
[18:33] <frank23> lovre: i think kubuntu-restricted-extras package has the k3b mp3 support
[18:33] <dthacker> ksivaji: I have no idea.
[18:34] <Qrawl> VirtualBox with seamless mode works great
[18:34] <ksivaji> dthacker because of my vga card S3 Unichrome
[18:35] <dthacker> argh, dog wants out. afd
[18:35] <dthacker> afk
[18:35] <eagles0513875> this suxs im having trouble playing audio streams on amarok
[18:35] <ksivaji> !wacom-tools
[18:35] <ubot3> wacom-tools: utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices. In component main, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 228 kB
[18:36] <flash> hi, how to install from a tar.bz2 file?
[18:36] <Minataku> !baddevice
[18:36] <ubot3> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[18:36] <eagles0513875> flash: first of all u have to un tar it
[18:37] <flash> what is the command that i have to run
[18:37] <ksivaji> flash first untar that
[18:37] <eagles0513875> flash: its just like in winblows uright click on it and it should have a command to untar
[18:37] <eagles0513875> or extract the tar file
[18:38] <flash> tar zxvf ** ??
[18:38] <ksivaji> flash do right click on that file->Extract here
[18:38] <eagles0513875> i dont know
[18:41] <dthacker> i lost the little icon that shows me my broadcom wireless needs drivers, how do I get that back to load them?
[18:41] <eagles0513875> dthacker: restart x
[18:41] <eagles0513875> other than that i dont know how else to get it back
[18:42] <dthacker> eagles0513875: let's give it a shot
[18:42] <eagles0513875> dthacker: alright
[18:44]  * dthacker thinks rude thoughts about the new login screen
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> i always install the same kdm theme - so it loooks the same to me. :) heh
[18:46] <eagles0513875> dthacker: did that work
[18:46] <bruno> hi
[18:47] <eagles0513875> what do these mean
[18:47] <eagles0513875> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[18:47] <eagles0513875> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[18:47] <proenca> koxi
[18:47] <bruno> how can I get kde4?
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> just informational messages Eagle_101
[18:47] <dthacker> eagles0513875: yes, now it's asking for the firmware location.  Is that on the CD?
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> oops eagles0513875
[18:47] <eagles0513875> dthacker: i picked the 2nd one
[18:47] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: what
[18:47] <fred_84> hi all, i have an issue that it seems it related to kubuntu gutsy. I am tryng to compile KDEBASE from SVN for KDE4 but i have this issue:
[18:47] <fred_84> /opt/kde4/lib/libnepomuk.so: undefined reference to `Soprano::DummyModel::DummyModel()'
[18:47] <fred_84> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[18:47] <fred_84> Linking CXX executable keditbookmarks
[18:47] <fred_84> make[2]: *** [apps/dolphin/src/dolphin] Error 1
[18:47] <fred_84> make[1]: *** [apps/dolphin/src/CMakeFiles/dolphin.dir/all] Error 2
[18:47] <eagles0513875> !pastebin |fred_84
[18:47] <ubot3> fred_84: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> eagles0513875 the ldconfig is how the system keeps track of system libraies. I dosent run ldconfig after each package. It does it after all the installs are done. makes it mor eefficneit
[18:48] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: so everything is fine
[18:49] <Minataku> Dr_Willis
[18:49] <Minataku> :3
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> eagles0513875 its just informational messages
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> hay Minataku
[18:49] <Minataku> Got a tracking number for me?
[18:49] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: what do i have to download to get amarok to stop saying no sutible demux plugin
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> I got the stuff packed up and in the van ane even went to the postoffice.. and they were closed...
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> !find kubuntu-restricted
[18:49] <ubot3> Found: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> eagles0513875 that kubuntu-restircted-extras package for a start
[18:49] <eagles0513875> doc is that for me
[18:49] <Minataku> I thought you were going to a UPS store
[18:50] <Minataku> Either way, when you get a chance :3
[18:50] <eagles0513875> ok i downloaded amarok extra codecs
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> Minataku yea - they were closed at 3:00 -  due to some guys in HERE keeping me  helping them too long. :)
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[18:50] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:50] <bruno> !find kde4
[18:50] <ubot3> Found: kde4-style-qtcurve, kde4accessibility, kde4accessibility-data, kde4addons, kde4addons-data (and 34 others)
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if the kubuntu Faq has been updated for gutsy yet
[18:50] <Minataku> Haha
[18:50] <Minataku> I asked first, they can wait
[18:50] <Minataku> XD
[18:50] <bruno> !mp3
[18:50] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:51] <eagles0513875> !libxine extra codecs
[18:51] <ubot3> eagles0513875: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:51] <eagles0513875> doc is the libxine extra codecs pkg still around in gutsy
[18:52] <dthacker> yeesh, saving network settings is taking awhile
[18:52] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: that still didnt work
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> I would say check the kubuntu faq guide - it used to state the exact package that needed to be installed
[18:53] <imbrandon> eagles0513875, its renamed to libxine1-* , split out into diffrent codecs, you probably are looking for libxine1-ffmpeg
[18:53] <eagles0513875> imbrandon: ty
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> I just take a shotgun approach and isntgall about everything. :)
[18:54] <eagles0513875> i already have it installed and in amarok with the streams keeps saying no demux plugin
[18:55] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: ive tried that and ive broken stuff lol
[18:55] <dthacker> ha, i killed system settings.
[18:55] <eagles0513875> dthacker: were u able to get that stuff setup
[18:55] <dthacker> nope
[18:56] <dthacker> argh, reboot time
[18:56] <eagles0513875> good luck
[18:56] <eagles0513875> this is really pissing me off
[18:56] <dthacker> I don't expect it to work.  It's more of an academic excersise
[18:57] <eagles0513875> oh lol
[18:57] <eagles0513875> im dying to test out my wifi on monday at school lol
[18:58] <ksivaji> Dr_Willis     dthacker   eagles0513875  please help me my system often hangs it seems no 3D support  http://pastebin.com/f52c09668
[19:00] <dthacker> ksivaji: I do not know how to help you, sorry
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> ksivaji and whats your video card?
[19:00] <ksivaji> Dr_Willis
[19:00] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[19:00] <ksivaji> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[19:00] <eagles0513875> im so proud of myself
[19:00] <eagles0513875> lol
[19:01] <ksivaji> i have opechrome installed already
[19:01] <eagles0513875> did a sucessful upgrade from feisty to gutsy
[19:01] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> can somebody help me with my internet being slow when i have fast internet
[19:01] <ksivaji> eagles0513875 ya no problem with upgrade
[19:01]  * dthacker hands eagles0513875 a congratulatory beverage of choice
[19:01] <ksivaji> AT0M1CB0MB3R dont use konqueror for browsing
[19:01] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ksivaji: i use mozilla
[19:02] <ksivaji> AT0M1CB0MB3R have you tried bandwidth test
[19:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ksivaji: ill try one
[19:02] <eagles0513875> lol
[19:03] <ksivaji> Dr_Willis any idea
[19:03] <ksivaji> are you mad
[19:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ksivaji: http://www.speedtest.net/result/196560166.png
[19:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i usually have faster download spped
[19:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> speed
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure that a S3 has much 3d support even under windows. :)
[19:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> like 10000
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> brb
[19:05] <princeodd> hello, ive got a toshiba tecra laptap, trying to install kubuntu Feisty Fawn.  during install the partition screen is empty during maunal setup.  i have an empty partition (8.5 gig), should it be formatted in a specific way?
[19:06] <ksivaji> Dr_Willis ya but now with gutsy its very worst often hangs i have switchoff and switchon no other way
[19:06] <Dr_willis_> ksivaji,  i would have to say check the ubuntu forums for that specific card. Ive no experience with them
[19:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ksivaji: so your going to pull a doctor willis and not answer me right
[19:07] <ksivaji> AT0M1CB0MB3R what is the bandwidth you are suppose to get
[19:07] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  am I under some obligation to anwer you? Dident think so.
[19:08] <viktor_> how to check desktop resoultion
[19:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: well you didnt answer ksivaji thats why i said that to him
[19:09] <sub[t]rnl> viktor_: start->system settings-> monitors and display
[19:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ksivaji: im suppose to get 10000 for my downlaod but my uploads right
[19:09] <Dr_willis_> i did answer him.
[19:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: after he told you to answer him
[19:09] <DeadJones> i had 1680x1050 sort of working (22" wide lcd) but the screen was split, wrap around.  the first 6 inches of the screen were actually the last 6, with a vertical bar representing the border
[19:10] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  whatever..
[19:10] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[19:10] <sub[t]rnl> atomic, shutup
[19:10] <Dr_willis_> pluse i did reboot/change machines between his replies
[19:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sub[t]rnl: no
[19:10] <ksivaji> AT0M1CB0MB3R i dont know why i am getting almost 98% bandwidth for me
[19:11] <viktor_> how to donwload firefox for kubuntu
[19:11] <fred_84> viktor_: apt-get install firefox
[19:12] <Dr_willis_> with a sudo at the front. :)
[19:12] <fred_84> ;) yes
[19:12] <Dr_willis_> check out the tools/addons menu item also - it has a ubuntu specific feature now as well. :)
[19:12] <Dr_willis_> lets you get some things  easier to enhance firefox
[19:12] <bipolar> princeodd: when you say it's empty, do you mean it doesn't show  the drive at all, or it doesn't show any partitions on the drive?
[19:13] <princeodd> bipolar: it doesnt show the drive at all
[19:13] <dthacker> I've installed the broadcom firmware on my laptop, and the card is now showing enabled in System Settings -> Network Settings.  I attemp to set the card to DCHP but the reloading process hangs?  How can I troubleshoot this?
[19:13] <samuk> algum br?
[19:14] <samuk> i need help
[19:14] <hexkubuntu> I'm trying to upgrade to gutsy but it fails with this error: http://pastebin.com/m401be233 ...how do I resolve that error?
[19:14] <samuk> what is the su password?!?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> !broadcom | dthacker
[19:15] <ubot3> dthacker: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:15] <dthacker> samuk: the su password is the password you set when you started your install
[19:15] <Dr_willis_> well thats the 'sudo' password
[19:15] <hexkubuntu> please help
[19:15] <Dr_willis_> su - dosent have a password. that would be the root password.
[19:17] <hexkubuntu> I'm trying to upgrade to gutsy but it fails with this error: http://pastebin.com/m401be233 ...how do I resolve that error?
[19:17] <sub[t]rnl> hexkubuntu: alternate cd image?
[19:17] <hexkubuntu> sub[t]rnl: correct
[19:17] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[19:18] <sub[t]rnl> try this sudo umount /media/Ubuntu\ 7.10\ i386/
[19:18] <DeadJones> i cant get a res above 1440x900/60.  1440x1050 does work but i gotta scroll up and down on screen to see it all.
[19:18] <sub[t]rnl> then: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[19:18] <DeadJones> is there no way to get 1680x1050 working?
[19:18] <dthacker> wow, the network reload locked up the machine.   No wireless this release.
[19:18] <Dr_willis_> DeadJones,  that sounds like your monitor is only set to show the lower res. You are getting a 'virtual' screen with panning effect.
[19:19] <Dr_willis_> DeadJones,  you are using a lcd monitor? what sort of conector?
[19:19] <hexkubuntu> sub[t]rnl: thanks but that error still occurs
[19:20] <DeadJones> dvi on a 22" viewsonic
[19:20] <hexkubuntu> the problem seems to be that /dists doesn't exist
[19:20] <hexkubuntu> on the cd
[19:21] <sub[t]rnl> odd that you can't get the auto installer to appear
[19:22] <Dr_willis_> DeadJones,  Hmm.. May want to check out the !fixres factoid. There may be some  settings/tool you need to tweak. With dvi - the system 'should' be getting the proper info from the monitor
[19:22] <kaihnn> Hola....
[19:22] <BluesKaj> DeadJones, what graphics card ...perhaps the driver has to be configged to write the settings to the xorrg file
[19:22] <DeadJones> pny verto geforce fx5900
[19:22] <Dr_willis_> DeadJones,  if using nvidia - i DO rember that you had to use the nvidia drivers for it to get/set the res's right
[19:24] <DeadJones> ive tried the legacy drivers, newer and latest. the latest gives more problems than its worth. the legacy give max 1280x.
[19:24] <sub[t]rnl> hexkubuntu: try gksudo "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade”
[19:24] <samuk> i need g++ to complet install of amsn 0.97...
[19:24] <Webbmaster> hi
[19:24] <Webbmaster> why might i get Error -artsmessage?
[19:25] <sub[t]rnl> samuk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:25] <DeadJones> according to kcontrol ive got the nvidia drivers in use
[19:25] <viktor_> how can i get vlc for kubuntu
[19:26] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install vlc
[19:26] <Webbmaster> http://pastebin.ca/751774
[19:27] <Webbmaster> can anyone explain whats wrong
[19:27] <Webbmaster> i think its permissions
[19:27] <samuk> what is apt-get install?
[19:27] <hexkubuntu> that worked thanks sub[t]rnl
[19:27] <sub[t]rnl> hexkubuntu: good deal
[19:27] <DeadJones> the 1440x900 isnt bad. lots better than 1280x1024
[19:27] <Webbmaster> samuk: its a command line program, you could use adept instead
[19:28] <sub[t]rnl> Webbmaster: what are you running to produce this error message?
[19:28] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: nothing, as far as i can tell, it just pops up when i log in
[19:29] <combinio> how can convert *.avi movies to DVD format ??
[19:29] <Webbmaster> ive had it several times, it seems to be when i log out of one user and log into another
[19:29] <Webbmaster> also, because of the problem with sound games will not start
[19:30] <samuk> i need help in portuguese ... i speak low in english
[19:30] <Reverend> Hello
[19:30] <samuk> algum brasileiro aeeeeeeeee?!?
[19:30] <Webbmaster> !pt | samuk
[19:30] <ubot3> samuk: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:32] <samuk> !pt
[19:32] <ubot3> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:32] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: any idea what the problem is?
[19:32] <sub[t]rnl> sorry, had to get some coffee
[19:32] <Webbmaster> lol okay
[19:32] <samuk> #ubunto-br
[19:32] <stdin> samuk: /join #ubuntu-br
[19:33] <sub[t]rnl> Webbmaster: let me look around, sec
[19:33] <Webbmaster> okay
[19:34] <jhutchins> !loopback
[19:34] <ubot3> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[19:36] <patricc> So I have gutsy gibbon..but where are the fancy compiz effects? :)
[19:36] <Webbmaster> patricc: kubuntu gutsy?
[19:36] <sub[t]rnl> Webbmaster: hrm, not sure
[19:36] <sub[t]rnl> !compiz | patricc
[19:36] <ubot3> patricc: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:36] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: rite
[19:36] <patricc> Webbmaster: yes
[19:37] <patricc> this is a guide for feisty
[19:37] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: any idea what sound thing it is, is it to do with alsa for example
[19:37] <Webbmaster> patricc: oh, anyway its not in by default but is in repos
[19:38] <patricc> ah!
[19:38] <Webbmaster> so you should be able to find it in you package manager
[19:38] <sub[t]rnl> Webbmaster: not sure if its a kernel module that is having problems or what.  You said you see the error message when you boot?
[19:38] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: when i log in, i get a pop up window saying it
[19:38] <Webbmaster> this is when i log in, after having logged out of someone else
[19:38] <Webbmaster> never happens when i am the first one on
[19:40] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, so its not letting you share the device?
[19:40] <sub[t]rnl> apparently
[19:40] <Webbmaster> sthg like that, i think
[19:40] <Webbmaster> but i only have one person logged on at once
[19:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> swjrijdshaksdaknsdlfdsklfjksdjfkdsjf i fixed my problem
[19:40] <bruno> !xvid
[19:40] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:40] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: hmmm, actually i think i have someone logged on to tty1 text mode, but not doing anything
[19:41] <sub[t]rnl> yeah that shouldn't matter
[19:41] <Webbmaster> ctrl+alt+f1 just shows a blank screen for some reason
[19:41] <sub[t]rnl> yeah that has to do with the gutsy kernel and framebuffering
[19:41] <Webbmaster> ok nvm
[19:42] <Webbmaster> but anyway, you the sound device isn't sharing?
[19:42] <Webbmaster> is that normal?
[19:42] <sub[t]rnl> i've never ran into this one
[19:43] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: its prolly because its hardware specific _and_ it only applies to sytems with multiple users
[19:43] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: which sound thing is having the problem tho?
[19:43] <Webbmaster> because i can play a file with mplayer
[19:43] <DeadJones> i thought compiz puts metalcity by default?
[19:43] <DeadJones> sucker cant find it
[19:44] <Dr_willis_> DeadJones,  ive heard someone else say that.. i do NOT think thats a correct statement
[19:44] <Dr_willis_> compiz replaces metacity i belive
[19:44] <DeadJones> i guess no biggie. compiz would prolly just piss me off anyway
[19:44] <sub[t]rnl> correct
[19:44] <Webbmaster> Dr_willis_: i thought emerald actually replaced metacity
[19:44] <Webbmaster> compiz ftw
[19:44] <sub[t]rnl> emerald is the decorator for compiz
[19:45] <Webbmaster> hmmm
[19:45] <sub[t]rnl> anyway, i'm stuck on your sound issue webb
[19:45] <rickey> i have a question  ,i have downlooooaded some music in amule it is  compelete ,how do i move it to a audio player so i can listen to it
[19:45] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: so, you don't even know what program is having the proglem?
[19:46] <sub[t]rnl> newp :/
[19:46] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: is it kubuntu specific dyou think, or should i try #ubuntu ?
[19:46] <sub[t]rnl> that doesn't sound like anything with kde, so yeah try there
[19:46] <sub[t]rnl> or maybe even ##linux
[19:46] <Dr_willis_> heh. ##linux is always fun..
[19:47] <Webbmaster> lol yeah
[19:47] <Webbmaster> anyway
[19:47]  * Webbmaster to food
[19:47] <sub[t]rnl> wild bunch in there
[19:47] <setuid_w00t> I upgraded to Gutsy recently and now when I do try to hibernate, my system hangs.  Has anyone heard of this before?  How can I debug this?
[19:47] <Webbmaster> i might see you in a bit
[19:47] <sub[t]rnl> be sure to bring a friend
[19:47] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: lol
[19:47] <rickey> ok can someone give  me some input please
[19:48] <sub[t]rnl> rickey: just open the file location from your audio player
[19:48] <rickey> and?
[19:49] <rickey> if i knew what to do i wouldnt ask
[19:50] <sub[t]rnl> setuid_w00t: what video card?
[19:50] <rickey> sub i dont know anymore then wen you started
[19:50] <sub[t]rnl> rickey: eh?
[19:50] <sub[t]rnl> started what?
[19:50] <rickey> your anwser
[19:50] <princeodd> when you load kubuntu live boot cd, if you open qtparted, will it normally show you your hard drives?
[19:50] <sub[t]rnl> rickey: your trying to play the music you downloaded?
[19:51] <rickey> yes
[19:51] <sub[t]rnl> rickey: just open the file location from your audio player
[19:51] <rickey>  it,s in amule
[19:51] <rickey> how do you do that
[19:51] <sub[t]rnl> open up whatever audio player you use, then file->open-> and browse to the location of the music you downloaded
[19:51] <setuid_w00t> sub[t]rnl: It's an ATI Radeon 9600 pro.
[19:52] <sub[t]rnl> setuid_w00t: ah ha, theres a known issue with the ati binaries and the gutsy kernel
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> amule has a download directory - set some where in its settings..  (never used amule, so i dont know its defaults)
[19:52] <rickey> ok where do i find amule in all of those files
[19:52] <lukskrodz> hi, i got some problems with repozytories in kubuntu. I try to install it, but, when i want to start download "aplly changes" my adept manager stuck on 25% "Waiting on headers" Did anyone know what i should do?
[19:52] <setuid_w00t> sub[t]rnl: Can I read about this anywhere?
[19:52] <sub[t]rnl> setuid_w00t: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579781&page=5
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> isent there a search feature now in the kde menus? strigi?
[19:53] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[19:53] <jpnurmi> hi. i managed to boot kubuntu gutsy installer (alternative) from an usb-stick but i was unable to mount the usb-stick on /cdrom. this is what i got: "mount: Mounting /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 on /cdrom failed: No such device"
[19:53] <setuid_w00t> sub[t]rnl: Thanks!
[19:53] <jpnurmi> i was following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:53] <princeodd> if not in qtparted, should i see my drives/partitions in disk and filesystems during liveboot cd?
[19:54] <sub[t]rnl> um, yeah you should see your drives/partitions if you have created them.  But if you havn't yet, and your just running of the live cd, then no
[19:55] <sub[t]rnl> sudo fdisk -l
[19:55] <princeodd> sub[t]rnl: that should show my partitions during liveboot, prior to kubuntu install?
[19:56] <sub[t]rnl> no, you will get to the partition making once you begin the install of kubuntu
[19:57] <adam__> hi
[19:57] <lukskrodz>  ## Add comments (##) in front of any line to remove it from being checked.
[19:58] <lukskrodz> ## Use the following sources.list at your own risk.
[19:58] <adam__> how can i fix dpkg error which tells that it's used by another process
[19:58] <nixternal> #ubuntu-classroom for the OpenWeek Ubuntu Documentation Talk
[19:58] <lukskrodz> ## You may replace "us" with your country code to get the closest mirror.
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[19:58] <princeodd> sub[t]rnl: gotcha, what im running into is, when i go through install, at partition setup, it doesn't show any drives/partitions, so i was trying to see if i could view them a different way
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[19:58] <lukskrodz> ## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[19:58] <sub[t]rnl> !pastbin | lukskrodz
[19:58] <ubot3> Factoid pastbin not found
[19:58] <lukskrodz> ## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[19:58] <sub[t]rnl> !paste bin
[19:58] <ubot3> Factoid paste bin not found
[19:58] <sub[t]rnl> poo
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[19:58] <lukskrodz> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[19:58] <semistud2354> im in a bit of a tangle...i partitioned my hardrive so that i can install gutsy.... and transfer files....it worked but now i dont know how to delete the other partition
[19:58] <lukskrodz> ## UNIVERSE AND MULTIVERSE REPOSITORY (Unsupported by Ubuntu.  Use at own risk.)
[19:59] <lukskrodz> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[19:59] <sahin_h> !pastes
[19:59] <ubot3> Factoid pastes not found
[19:59] <lukskrodz> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[19:59] <lukskrodz> ## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[19:59] <lukskrodz> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[19:59] <lukskrodz> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[19:59] <lukskrodz>  ## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[19:59] <lukskrodz> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free
[19:59] <lukskrodz> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free
[19:59] <nixternal> lol
[19:59] <semistud2354> is there a program that can make my current gutsy partition the length of the entire hardrive
[20:00] <adam__> there was an option that fixes dpkg... it was --reconfigure... or so?
[20:00] <sub[t]rnl> ah, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock && dpkg --configure -a
[20:01] <semistud2354> im in a bit of a tangle...i partitioned my hardrive so that i can install gutsy.... and transfer files....it worked but now i dont know how to delete the other partition
[20:01] <semistud2354> is there a program that can make my current gutsy partition the length of the entire hardrive
[20:01] <lesik> гггг
[20:01] <lesik> эм
[20:01] <lesik> что десь происходит
[20:01] <Minataku> !ru
[20:01] <ubot3> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[20:01] <lesik> #ubuntu
[20:01] <semistud2354> i tryed using the qtparted thing on the kubuntu install cd but it says my hardrive was locked??
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> locked? Hmm. you may of needed to run gparted with 'sudo gparted'
[20:06] <semistud2354> i tryed that
[20:06] <semistud2354> but on the cd...i guess it doesnt allow you to edit other partitions
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> ive edited all my drives from the live cd.
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> You cant edit MOUNTED drives
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> that might be the issue
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> but i though the live cd dident automount the hds
[20:07] <semistud2354> thats what i thought
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> Ive also found the 'gparted live cd' to be very handy tool to have.  Ive never heard of a hard drive being 'locked'
[20:15] <ylz> Hello!
[20:15] <mulander> jpatrick: updated today right after I returned home from a business trip .
[20:15] <ylz> May I ask a question to gutsy?
[20:16] <jpatrick> mulander: do you have gutsy-updates in your sources.list?
[20:16] <mulander> I see the kopete main window, but it's 'frozen' and insted of account icons I see a window icon with an x on it (all my account work, checked on another im)
[20:16] <ylz> whatever x server is running, I cannot use 3d-desktop (because of lame hardware). How do I disable the 3d things?
[20:16] <mulander> jpatrick: hold on a second, checking
[20:16] <mulander> jpatrick: yes, gutsy-updates restricted main multiverse universe is unhashed in the sources.list
[20:17] <jpatrick> mulander: gutsy-proposed?
[20:17] <rickey> anyone here uses a mule?
[20:17] <mulander> jpatrick: proposed updates are not enabled
[20:17] <jpatrick> mulander: try that
[20:17] <mulander> ok :)
[20:17] <jpatrick> that's where they go before->updates
[20:21] <mulander> jpatrick: added proposed updates, already refreshed the updates list, but I don't see any kopete updates on it.
[20:21] <jpatrick> mulander: it's not a kopete problem, it was something to do with kdelibs
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[20:22] <mulander> jpatrick: ok I'll try running the updates and will give feedback in a moment :) thanks for the help.
[20:22] <awag> sigh....  anyone know what on earth could be wrong. When I install a fresh copy of kubuntu 7.10 from cd on a dif harddrive on this system, my geforce 6600 works fine using the nvidia drivers, but when i try to use the nvidia drivers on this install on the same system, it doesn't work
[20:22] <awag> i've  even copied the same xorg.conf from my other install on this system
[20:22] <awag> and it still doesn't work
[20:23] <cybrhuman> hi, I am trying to squeeze some more battery time out of my laptop, And a tip now is to enable HPET to lower the wakeups per second, but I dont know if my laptop got the timer. would someone please help?
[20:25] <redheat> guys how do download and install KDE into gutsy gibbon just the command please
[20:26] <redheat> and of course hi to you all
[20:26] <Riddell> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:26] <ylz> redheat: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:26] <redheat> thank you Riddell and Ylz, thank you guys truely appreciate it
[20:28] <prist> buonasera
[20:28] <prist> un'info se possibile
[20:28] <prist> ho appena installato kubuntu
[20:28] <prist> forse non ho fatto caso
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> !es | prist
[20:28] <ubot3> prist: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:29] <prist> ma la pw da admin non la so
[20:29] <prist> ops
[20:29] <prist> no italian?
[20:29] <sub[t]rnl> !it
[20:29] <ubot3> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:29] <prist> tanks
[20:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how can i make konverstation transparent
[20:34] <ghostcube> hi folks
[20:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how can i get drag racerv3 to work on linux
[20:34] <ghostcube> anyone knows why on feisty and kde 3.5.8 systemsettings crashes ??
[20:35] <Timsen> ghostcube you tried kcontrol instead as a test?
[20:35] <ghostcube> yep working
[20:35] <nite613_1> Hi there, I'm looking for pointers about sound on kubuntu. I've found that is artsd ("The KDE Sound System") is running, then no other alsa programs (pretty much everything) will work well. When I turn off artsd, my terminal bell turns into a very loud and ugly buzzer. Is there a way I can get a sane terminal bell, some support for KDE sounds, AND software that's not written for artsd all at the same time?
[20:35] <cybrhuman> do anyone know how I can find out whether my laptop has HPET timer or not?
[20:35] <ghostcube> it strated after updating from 3.5.7
[20:36] <ghostcube> maybe  i missed something ?
[20:36] <hexkubuntu> how come if(`md5 /mount/path`==`md5 /mount/path`){echo yes;} doesn't work?
[20:36] <ghostcube> everything else is fine as expected
[20:36] <hexkubuntu> basically I'm trying to get terminal to checksum two drives and compare them for me
[20:37] <hexkubuntu> but that fails with bash: syntax error near unexpected token `{echo'
[20:37] <hexkubuntu> anyone got a idea?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> this is a script?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> be sure its starting with #!/bin/bash not /bin/sh for a start.
[20:41] <Morgwyr> If I'm new to Kubuntu (and mostly Linux in general) where's a good guide or helpful website to start delving into it all?
[20:42] <poison--> !envy
[20:42] <ubot3> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> kubuntu/ubuntu homepage has several starter guides/wikis
[20:42] <ghostcube> boa<h dobnt use envy
[20:42] <ghostcube> never
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> Morgwyr,  tldp.org has a lot of guides also.
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> :)
[20:42] <ghostcube> same for autom,atix
[20:42] <poison--> i dont use it
[20:44] <bjwebb> hi
[20:45] <Webbmaster> sub[t]rnl: hi
[20:45] <bjwebb> sub[t]rnl: hi :D
[20:45] <sub[t]rnl> greets
[20:46] <bjwebb> its interesting i fixed the problem by loggging in as the previous user and logging out proberly
[20:46] <sub[t]rnl> the sound troubles?
[20:46] <bjwebb> yup
[20:46] <sub[t]rnl> nice
[20:46] <rumzais> #muenchen
[20:46] <bjwebb> i get the problem when someone presses ctrl+alt+backspace instead of logging out
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> thats disable in the xorg.conf file
[20:47] <bjwebb> so i can still reproduce it, and we don't know what's causing it :S
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> 'nozap' i think is the option
[20:47] <bjwebb> Dr_Willis: you talking to me?
[20:47] <travis> any one know of a driver i can get for an HD Radeon 2600 ATI card to get 7.10 to run with 3D graphics
[20:47] <travis> ?
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> sounds liuke some sort of lock file.  not getting cleared out.
[20:47] <sub[t]rnl> Dr_Willis: you use ati? or nvidia
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> 'nozap' i think disalbes - the alt-ctrl-backspace Fast X exit.
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> sub[t]rnl,  nvidia
[20:47]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[20:48] <sub[t]rnl> !ati
[20:48] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:48] <bjwebb> Dr_Willis: what if i get something frozen?
[20:48] <sub[t]rnl> travis: we need to take another shot at that
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> bjwebb,  yep. thats the tradeoff.
[20:48] <dope> i need some free software to burn an iso to a dvd in windows
[20:48] <poncho> mujeres
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> bjwebb,  ssh in  and restart X i guess
[20:48] <dope> taking recommendations
[20:49] <ghostcube> hmm so noone has the same prob
[20:49] <bjwebb> Dr_Willis: only one internet pc
[20:49] <ghostcube> as i have
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> dope,  burnatonce,
[20:49] <travis> <sub[t]nl yes we do
[20:49] <ghostcube> hmmm
[20:49] <dope> thank you
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> dope,  theres several others  also.  i forget theior names
[20:49] <bjwebb> mind you would sys_rq + k work
[20:49] <travis> lol
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> finalburner can do it - but it sort of sucks
[20:49] <sub[t]rnl> dope: tovid is a nice suit
[20:49] <dope> i just want to burn an ISO to a dvd
[20:49] <dope> that's it
[20:49] <sub[t]rnl> dope: also k3b
[20:49] <dope> in windows
[20:49] <sub[t]rnl> ...
[20:50] <dope> i would use k3b but my kubuntu installed is fubared
[20:50] <dope> and i'd use a live cd but i gave it to my friend
[20:50] <bjwebb> Dr_Willis: how could i tell which lock file is the problem?
[20:50] <dope> bjwebb: look at the permissions
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> bjwebb,  no idea there. Try running an app from a terminal and see if it spits out any error messages?
[20:51] <dope> bjwebb: ls -l <directory>
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> lsof /dev/audio perhaps
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> Ive rarely ever had any sound problems
[20:51] <bjwebb> hmmm
[20:52] <sub[t]rnl> !fglrx
[20:52] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:52] <dope> I have an odd sound problem in kubuntu 7.04
[20:52] <dope> my line is is all garbaly
[20:52] <sub[t]rnl> Dr_Willis: hey you any of the regulars that uses an ati card and compiz?
[20:52] <sub[t]rnl> trying to think
[20:52] <sparr> can anyone recommend a pager that can deal well with a large number of virtual desktops?
[20:53] <ghostcube> skype
[20:53] <ghostcube> ^^
[20:53] <bjwebb> sub[t]rnl: i have ati card + compiz but with open source driver
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> sparr,  whats a large #? ive never had any issues with the normal kde pager
[20:53] <sub[t]rnl> bjwebb: ok, whats the driver called?
[20:53] <bjwebb> ati iirc
[20:53] <sparr> Dr_Willis: 500, for example.
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. im not sure that burnat once can do DVD's without some estra tools installed.
[20:53] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> sparr,  dare we ask What you are doing that needs more then  say 10 or so
[20:54] <sub[t]rnl> bjwebb: do lspci |grep VGA fro me
[20:54] <sub[t]rnl> for*
[20:54] <sparr> Dr_Willis: you daren't
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> good luck then. have fun.
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[20:54] <bjwebb> sub[t]rnl: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]
[20:54] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, travis's won't even show up
[20:55] <mulander> jpatrick: thx, kopete seems to work now.
[20:56] <travis> Sysinfo for 'travis-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4400+ at 2310 MHz (4621 bogomips), , RAM: 573/2015MB, 110 proc's, 13.56min up
[20:57] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[20:57] <sub[t]rnl> your on a beast
[20:57] <cybrhuman> What do I have to do to enable HPET in kubuntu?
[20:57] <travis> i know lol
[20:58] <ole> Hello room. since i upgraded to gutsy, i can't play .wma files anymore in amarok and xine. libxine1-ffmpeg is installed. any ideas?
[20:58] <ghostcube> w32codecs
[20:59] <ghostcube> or thze extra codecs
[20:59] <hangthedj> ole, try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:59] <rumzais> join muenchen
[20:59] <ghostcube> libxine-extracodecs
[21:00] <ole> libxine-extracodecs disappeared in gutsy
[21:00] <ole> w64codecs (im on 64 bit) are installed, as well as kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:01] <ole> (but libxine-extracodecs was only a metapackage depending on libxine1-ffmpeg)
[21:02] <sparr> will compiz-fusion be ready for kde in ubuntu any time soon?
[21:02] <ghostcube> sparr: compiz is running here
[21:02] <ghostcube> perfectly
[21:02] <hangthedj> sparr, i'm using it right now
[21:03] <sparr> and beryl is running here
[21:03] <sparr> im not asking about compiz or beryl, i asking about compiz-fusion
[21:03] <sub[t]rnl> compiz is compiz fusion now
[21:03] <ghostcube> i  run fusion guy
[21:03] <sub[t]rnl> and yes its ready
[21:03] <sub[t]rnl> !compiz
[21:03] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:03] <ghostcube> im fusion support
[21:03] <ghostcube> so what
[21:03] <hangthedj> ole, do you have libxine1-plugins?
[21:03] <ghostcube> ^^
[21:04] <ole> yes @ hangthedj
[21:04] <ghostcube> hangthedj: he need extra plugs
[21:04] <ghostcube> maybe try thefeisty deb
[21:04] <hangthedj> hmm, i had this problem when i installed the first beta of gutsy, but i don't remember how i fixed it.
[21:04] <hangthedj> i think i just searched for codec and installed everything i found.
[21:04] <hangthedj> w64codecs would do it probably.
[21:05] <ghostcube> what does apt-cache search libxine do
[21:05] <sparr> if its ready, why wasnt it in gutsy?
[21:05] <ghostcube> sparr: its not in kubuntu its in ubuntu
[21:05] <sparr> ghostcube: searches your apt cache for 'libxine' in package names and descriptions
[21:05] <sparr> yes, im well aware of that
[21:05] <ghostcube> sparr: i asked ole
[21:05] <ghostcube> lol
[21:06] <ole> i got all of that installed
[21:06] <sparr> going to try installing compiz-fusion again
[21:06] <mo_> hi, folks my vim-folding doesen't work anymore since I upgraded to gutsy, does anyone of you have the same problem?
[21:07] <ghostcube> sparr: u need the officiaöl repos
[21:07] <ghostcube> not trevcs repo
[21:07] <ghostcube> its not working in gutsy
[21:07] <ghostcube> if u use eycandy 3vino
[21:07] <ghostcube> no way
[21:07] <ghostcube> trev is going to build it by 0.70 compiz release
[21:07] <rickey> is there anyone here ,rigth now that  uses amule
[21:07] <sparr> i use a mule
[21:08] <rickey> are you willing to help a newbie
[21:08] <ghostcube> ole: have u installed libxine-extracodes ?
[21:08] <ghostcube> have u tried toplay the wma in totwm or xmms
[21:08] <ghostcube> if it works
[21:09] <ole> libxine-extracodes doesnt exist anymore in gutsy @ ghostcube
[21:09] <ghostcube> i know
[21:09] <dope> jesus christ i bought the wrong kind of dvds
[21:09] <ghostcube> try the feisty deb
[21:09] <rickey> sparr you must realizes i dont know anything about amule
[21:09] <rickey> i have downloaded some music
[21:10] <rickey>  and i am try ing to move it to a player so i can play it
[21:10] <ole> its only a metapackage depending on libxine1-ffmpeg
[21:10] <rickey>  and i dont know how or where to start
[21:10] <ghostcube> ole maybe its packaged up wrong ^^
[21:10] <ghostcube> u need extra codecs
[21:10] <awag> is there a good way to reinstall all core kubuntu components from CD without reformatting my hdd?
[21:10] <jay__> HI all. New to Ubuntu, just playing with Beryl & other programs for the first time.
[21:11] <jay__> Anyone know where I might be able to find some good user guides for understanding the terminal?
[21:11] <ole> and yes, i can play .wma's in mplayer and xmms, but not in xine and amarok (with the xine-backend)
[21:11] <stdin> jay__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:12] <jay__> Thanks, appreciate it. Finally I've found a way out of Microsoft OS's!
[21:12] <rickey> sparr just tale me to move music from amule to any player step by step
[21:13] <jay__> Also one more question if you don't mind. I've had a very frustrating time trying to download Flash from Adobe's website. Anyone know another site I can get it from?
[21:13] <rickey> it cant be that hard to talk  sommeone thorw it
[21:13] <awag> !seen BigPrick
[21:13] <ubot3> Factoid seen bigprick not found
[21:14] <ole> ok, installed an old libxine-extracodecs now, but that didn't help at all (as i expected) any other ideas?
[21:15] <miles_> LOL
[21:15] <MilesG> i just ran "sudo nmap -O [myserver.com]" and it said it was guessing i was running NT/2K/XP
[21:16] <MilesG> seriously, let me go put on my loller skates
[21:16] <awag> rofl
[21:16] <MilesG> the only thing between my server and the internet is a linksys router...i didnt think they were that good
[21:16] <ghostcube> ole: i think somethings is wrong in the release or in the packages
[21:17] <ole> the decoding of *.wma's in xine should be done by xineplug_dmx_asf.so, right?
[21:18] <rickey> sparr are you going to try to help me or not
[21:18] <MilesG> e
[21:18] <jameswf-home> greetings
[21:19] <zareliman> hi
[21:19] <zareliman> Kubuntu is great, nice work you're doing
[21:19] <jameswf-home> just installed the latest, anything besides dolphin to look at
[21:19] <MilesG> !hi | jameswf-home
[21:19] <ubot3> jameswf-home: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[21:19] <zareliman> I have a question
[21:19] <MilesG> jameswf-home: installed the latest what?
[21:19] <zareliman> How do you update KDE 3.5.5 to de 4.0 beta3 ?
[21:19] <zareliman> I want to try that stuff
[21:20] <MilesG> zareliman: i wouldnt reccomend switching it, you can create a kde4 session though
[21:20]  * jay__ is very curious why it takes 3 hours to download the flash plugin for Mozilla on his 10 mbp/s connection..
[21:20] <MilesG> there is this link i used, let me find it real quick
[21:20] <rickey> hello
[21:20] <rickey> hey
[21:20] <jameswf-home> gutsy
[21:20] <zareliman> But I don't have the option
[21:21] <zareliman> for another 'session'
[21:21] <zareliman> I can't even use Gnome
[21:21] <zareliman> even if a log out
[21:21] <jameswf-home> gnome is like mac os9 ick
[21:21] <zareliman> I' on 7.04
[21:23] <Angelus> if i use rsync to extract an iso image, would it be the same thing as mounting that iso image, and copy its contents from the mount folder to somewhere else?
[21:23] <MilesG> zareliman: if you press ctrl + alt + backspace (dont do it) it will restart X for you
[21:23] <MilesG> before you log in, you can click on an icon that will allow you to pick a session
[21:23] <jameswf-home> lol @ dont do it
[21:25] <MilesG> zareliman: sorry im having trouble finding it
[21:25] <MilesG> zareliman: do you have the link that tells you how to set up kde 4?
[21:25] <Odd-rationale> Does Kubuntu 7.10 come with compiz-fusion like ubuntu?
[21:25] <MilesG> Odd-rationale: no
[21:26] <Odd-rationale> But I can install it manually, or no.
[21:26] <MilesG> Odd-rationale: you can
[21:26] <Odd-rationale> Thanks!
[21:26] <ghostcube> Odd-rationale: sudo apt-get install compiz-core compizconfig-settings-manager python-compizconfig emerald
[21:26] <ghostcube> should bring it
[21:26] <ole> rad this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php @ zareliman
[21:26] <MilesG> always have to one-up me
[21:26] <ole> read*
[21:26] <Odd-rationale> ghostcube: That's all I need?
[21:26] <MilesG> ole:  thanks thats the link i was looking for
[21:27] <ghostcube> look what it ships with
[21:27] <ghostcube> nornmally it brings the fusion plugin packs with it
[21:27] <MilesG> Odd-rationale: yea, after you do that, you might want to restart X.  to get compiz to run, open up konsole and type "compiz --replace"
[21:27] <ghostcube> and u need fusion-icon
[21:27] <ghostcube> nononono
[21:27] <ghostcube> dont do this
[21:27] <MilesG> ghostcube: ?
[21:27] <ghostcube>  Compiz Fusion Icon is a tray icon that provides quick access to CCSM, Emerald Theme Manager, and basic functions (eg. switching/reloading WMs or WDs). For debian sid users, it is included in shame's repo. To install from GIT, do the following: git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install
[21:28] <ghostcube> before do
[21:28] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install
[21:28] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install git-core
[21:28] <ghostcube> ups
[21:28] <jameswf-home> ok so stringi and dolphin any other new toys
[21:29] <MilesG> is dolphin a toy? i didnt really think it was that great
[21:29] <ghostcube> To make beryl start automatically when you log into your KDE session, run « ln -s $(which beryl-manager) ~/.kde/Autostart/ ».
[21:29] <jameswf-home> said toys ! good_toys
[21:29] <ghostcube> oh
[21:29] <ghostcube> old one
[21:30] <ghostcube> To make compiz start automatically when you log into your KDE session, run « ln -s $(which fusion-icon) ~/.kde/Autostart/ ».
[21:30] <ghostcube> ^^
[21:30] <Odd-rationale> OK Let me write all this down...
[21:30] <ole> anyone else had the problem that xine (and amarok in consequence) doesn't play *.wma flies anymore after upgrade?
[21:30] <ole> files*
[21:30] <ghostcube> Odd-rationale: which grafik card
[21:30] <jameswf-home> looking for diff -Naur edgy gutsy
[21:32] <Odd-rationale> What does "$(which fusion-icon)" mean. Do I type it in exactly as you wrote?
[21:32] <ghostcube> ln -s $(which fusion-icon) ~/.kde/Autostart/
[21:32] <ghostcube> yes normally should work
[21:33] <jameswf-home> whats wrong with `
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> OK. Can I find a howto in the wiki or ubuntuforums.org?
[21:33] <jameswf-home> ln -s `which fusion-icon` ~/.kde/Autostart/ << less work
[21:34] <Odd-rationale> That way I can just save the link for when I need it.
[21:34] <Angelus> how do i turn dma on ?
[21:34] <Angelus> :S
[21:34] <ghostcube> #compiz-fusion
[21:34] <ghostcube> :)
[21:34] <ghostcube> wiki.compiz-fusion.org
[21:35] <jameswf-home> http://google.com
[21:35] <ghostcube> ole ole
[21:35] <ghostcube> ^^
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> lol
[21:35] <hangthedj> ln -s `which fusion-icon` ~/.kde/Autostart/fusion-icon
[21:35] <ole> yes?
[21:35] <ghostcube> lol
[21:36] <ghostcube> ln -s /usr/bin/fusion-icon ~/.kde/Autostart/fusion-icon
[21:36] <ghostcube> whats the prob guys
[21:36] <ghostcube> bioah
[21:36] <Odd-rationale> OK thanks for your help! I can always come back here and ask right? :)
[21:37] <ghostcube> Odd-rationale: come to #äcompiz-fusion
[21:37] <ghostcube> Odd-rationale: come to #compiz-fusion
[21:37] <ghostcube> ^^
[21:39] <Odd-rationale> OK. I don't have a machine running kubuntu at the monent (just ubuntu). Just needed to know if it was possible and how. Thanks guys!
[21:41] <vagelisks> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooo from greece
[21:42] <vagelisks> is anybodu here
[21:42] <vagelisks> milaei kaneis ellinika?
[21:42] <vzduch> !el | vagelisks
[21:42] <ubot3> vagelisks: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[21:42] <vagelisks> hey
[21:42] <vagelisks> thanks
[21:43] <vagelisks> talk to me please....:P
[21:44] <WaltzingAlong> ok
[21:44] <vagelisks> stop
[21:44] <vagelisks> exit
[21:45] <__alexeev> quit
[21:45] <oficinia> Hola
[21:45] <oficinia> alguien por ahi?
[21:45] <oficinia> tengo una duda
[21:46] <ardchoille> !es | oficinia
[21:46] <ubot3> oficinia: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:46] <oficinia> ok gracias
[21:46] <oficinia> bye
[21:46] <solemnwarning> Hi all
[21:47] <solemnwarning> Does Kubuntu handle multiple sound streams in software by default/
[21:48] <even> how kubuntu install video codecs ?
[21:48] <ardchoille> !restrictedformats
[21:48] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:49] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | even
[21:49] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: do you know by chance how to bring ipod touch to work?
[21:50] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: I changed my KDE colour scheme and now all webpages have a grey background, is there any way to prevent this?
[21:50] <dvayanu> with kubuntu
[21:50] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: changing the color scheme again?
[21:51] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: But I dont want all my programs to look light, its a dark colour scheme
[21:51] <reagleBRKLN> i'm trying to build a new kernel on Kubuntu 7.10 for CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G but its crapping out on me: No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c'
[21:51] <TimS> I dont think I can win this one
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> compiz has that invert feature. :)
[21:51] <reagleBRKLN> i have 4gb i want to use, did this fine with feisty, and no idea what the asm-offsets mean
[21:52] <TimS> Dr_Willis: :P
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> its often so hard to get a decent color scheme going. :)
[21:53] <TimS> I like this one, its just firefox that it doesnt work with
[21:53] <t3ch13> How do I register a nick?
[21:53] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: then you can set gtk apps to use different colors i think
[21:53] <ardchoille> !register | t3ch13
[21:53] <ubot3> t3ch13: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[21:53] <TimS> Ah
[21:54] <TimS> That might work
[21:54] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: kmenu/system settings/appearance/gtk styles and fonts
[21:54] <motiyo> can some one help me with  a wireless connection
[21:56] <jay__> Hm. I finally got Adobe Flash installed but now it's locking up. Is that Synaptic Package Manager the best way to go when downloading plugins?
[21:57] <kona> moi
[21:57] <kona> miten saan kubuntuun asennnuttua x serverin? =E
[21:57] <kona> privateen vastaus kiitos :)
[21:57] <Chousuke> #kubuntu-fi
[21:57] <n8k99> anybody else using Gmail via IMAP in Kmail?
[21:58] <t3ch13> I just converted to Kubuntu from pclos
[21:59] <t3ch13> Anybody know where I can find information on getting a USB Hard Drive (NTFS-3) to work in Kubuntu? It worked in the live cd for Ubuntu
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> t3ch13,  Under gutsy it should popup when you plug it in.
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> if not edit the fstab/use ntfs-3g to enable it
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> sample fstab for mine --> /dev/hda5 /media/winstorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-3g
[22:01] <ubot3> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 132 kB
[22:02] <t3ch13> It pops up but says hal-storeage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[22:06] <thebitguru> Hi, my home drive keeps saying that it is full but when I do a 'du --max-depth=1 -h' the numbers don't add up to the total that it is showing... any ideas on what might be going on here?
[22:07] <solemnwarning> thebitguru: What program says it's full?
[22:08] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: firefox is crashing and amarok prints this if I run through console, and wget won't download a video driver that I need
[22:08] <solemnwarning> What does df -h show?
[22:08] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: same thing, 100% used
[22:08] <solemnwarning> Then your disk is full
[22:08] <solemnwarning> du must be missing somthing
[22:09] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: that's what I am trying to figure what is taking up all the space
[22:09] <solemnwarning> du -chs /home/youruseraccount/*
[22:10] <thebitguru> that is showing 1.9G  for my home folder
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> 5% of a  partition is normally reserved for root/recovery ussage also
[22:10] <thebitguru> let me post the du --max-depth output
[22:10] <solemnwarning> thebitguru: If du doesn't show it as full it's missing somthing
[22:11] <solemnwarning> du -chs /path/* won't miss anything
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> is what i normally use :)
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> but thats a slightly different way i guess
[22:11] <profoX`> Are there many active Kubuntu developers/programmers? (to make sure features stay more or less in sync with Ubuntu/GNOME ?) Because for example restricted-manager made it in late (kubuntu in gutsy, ubuntu in feisty), as well as now the compiz integration in gutsy, which is not available yet for kubuntu in the same way
[22:12] <Tm_T> profoX`: yes, Kubuntu has less developers
[22:12] <thebitguru> http://pastebin.ca/751918
[22:13] <profoX`> Tm_T: I think it's a bit sad that Kubuntu doesn't get the attention it deserves so much :(
[22:13] <Tm_T> profoX`: agreed
[22:13] <thebitguru> if you look at that output, the numbers don't seem to add up to 1.9G
[22:13] <stdin> profoX`: we're looking for volunteers if you want to help
[22:13] <biovore> thebitguru: It because you used the -h option probably..
[22:14] <thebitguru> biovore: but I didn't that -h would cause such discrepancy...?
[22:14] <solemnwarning> du -chs *
[22:15] <biovore> it rounds off the numbers
[22:15] <profoX`> stdin: yes, I really do :) although I'm a bit occupied by other things at the moment
[22:15] <stdin> profoX`: head in to #kubuntu-devel when you have time and have a chat
[22:16] <profoX`> stdin: I'm already there :)
[22:16] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: ok, I think that is showing more :)
[22:16] <stdin> profoX`: but you're not chatting ;)
[22:16] <profoX`> I coughed.
[22:16] <profoX`> :)
[22:16] <thebitguru> http://pastebin.ca/751926
[22:17] <thebitguru> I was thinking 'du --max-depth' would show all files but it wasn't showing the .xsession-errors :)
[22:17] <solemnwarning> Holy crap
[22:17] <thebitguru> yeah, something isn't right :)
[22:17] <solemnwarning> Your /home is only 5.5GiB?
[22:18] <thebitguru> actually /home is only 1.9G
[22:18] <solemnwarning> O_O
[22:18] <thebitguru> I don't know why it is showing 5.5G :)
[22:18] <solemnwarning> How the HELL can you live with so little space?
[22:18] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: I have another partition where I save most of my data
[22:19] <solemnwarning> http://rafb.net/p/1q03q799.html
[22:20] <thebitguru> Nice =D
[22:20] <thebitguru> http://rafb.net/p/U8XQMv43.html
 sparr just tale me to move music from amule to any player step by step
[22:21] <solemnwarning> Tiny ._.
[22:21] <sparr> youd think he would just buy the music to save the trouble  :)
[22:22] <solemnwarning> eeew
[22:22] <solemnwarning> thebitguru: You use NFS?
[22:22] <kristen> Don't suppose anyone could tell me what this means? (graphical glitch) http://buzzhost.org/gamepics/WoW/error01.png
[22:23] <yeo_> kristen, best ask in a more appropriate channel.
[22:24] <yeo_> i assume you are running the game thru wine/cedega?
[22:24] <kristen> Wine (though I tried Cedega and it gives the same)
[22:24] <yeo_> you should go to winehq.org and post there on the appdb
[22:24] <kristen> Thought maybe it was either a wine update or a graphics driver, but I updated both and the problem persists.
[22:24]  * solemnwarning pokes thebitguru
[22:25] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: sorry, I still have the problem so I was checking that out :)
[22:25] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: but yes, I use NFS
[22:25] <awag> is there a way to "reinstall" kubuntu in a repair install type fashion?
[22:25] <solemnwarning> ick, why?
[22:25] <yeo_> kristen, is that the only graphical glitch?
[22:25] <kristen> yeo_: Yes.
[22:25] <fladd> hi there, anyone familiar with gmail?
[22:25] <yeo_> otherwise the game is fine?
[22:25] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: it was easy to setup and this is a home network so I didn't care much about the security part :)
[22:25] <solemnwarning> CIFS has flaws but it's still better then NFS
[22:25] <Angelus> where is filesystem.squashfs in kubuntu gutsy?
[22:26] <JDMT> what are some good games not listed on the Add/Remove list?
 [nfs] Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served.  Network FaILurE System.  Never Fscking Stable.    Nightmare File System, or ask me about 'ssh tunneled nfs'.
[22:26] <kristen> yeo_: Well, it persists ingame - only basic textures, no characters, etc. but it's all the same problem.
[22:26] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: hahaha, I like some of those acronyms :)
[22:26] <solemnwarning> You must be mad to use rw NFS
[22:26] <thebitguru> I was kind of surprised at the security when I was first read about it :)
[22:27] <yeo_> kristen, you should really consult with people on the wine forums/irc
[22:27] <solemnwarning> kristen: #WineHQ
[22:27] <kristen> yeo_: Sure, thanks :)
[22:27] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: solemnwarning hehe, seems like you had trouble with it :)
[22:27] <yeo_> what is the safest network file sharing protocol for linux?
[22:27] <solemnwarning> thebitguru: I've read other people's prblems and ran screaming
[22:27] <JDMT> Fladd what do you need help with?
[22:27]  * solemnwarning only uses it for ro stuff
[22:28] <thebitguru> I am going to restart x, brb
[22:28] <yeo_> kristen, no worries. Blizzard should release a linux native client IMO. its all openGL and there's a mac version...
[22:28]  * yeo_ also only uses nfs for ro
[22:29] <yeo_> i dont like the idea of using samba
[22:29] <yeo_> and ftp isnt seamless enough...
[22:29] <solemnwarning> I use rsync too
[22:29] <lino> hola
[22:29] <BluesKaj> I have an old version of a google earth bin file , which I would like to remove ... how is that done ?
[22:29] <solemnwarning> BluesKaj: How about deleting it?
[22:29] <BonesolTeraDyne> !es | lino
[22:29] <ubot3> lino: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:30] <even> where i found kickoff menu for gutsy?
[22:30] <Riddell> even: in svn
[22:30] <solemnwarning> rsync is great for backup servers :)
[22:30] <Riddell> or in the next beta out next week
[22:30] <BluesKaj> err delete a bin file solemnwarning , have you tried ?
[22:30] <thebitguru> solemnwarning: is CIFS a fancy name for SMB?
[22:30] <solemnwarning> BluesKaj: It's a freakin' file
[22:30] <solemnwarning> thebitguru: Pretty much
[22:31] <ocnos> ola
[22:31] <BluesKaj> which needs permissions
[22:33] <thebitguru> yeah, something is up with X because that .xsession-errors file is again up to 800M in a few minutes
[22:33] <fladd> does anyone know a gmail irc channel?
[22:33] <thebitguru> I am going to go checkout what's up with it
[22:34] <ardchoille> fladd: I use gmail in kmail. If that migyht help, join #ardchoille
[22:38] <BluesKaj> solemnwarning, have you tried to actaully delete a bin file ?, If so pls explain how it's done
[22:40] <dsmith_> can you 'startx' from ssh?
[22:41] <fladd> ardchoille: well, I just want to know, how to create a filter that acts on all mails that are forwarded to gmail frtom a certain email account
[22:42] <Ace2016> yea you could but you can't see an xserver on your side, it would be useful if you wanted to see if the xserver starts properly
[22:42] <dsmith_> hmmm
[22:42] <dsmith_> ok..
[22:42] <dsmith_> I'll just stick with vnc then
[22:42] <dsmith_> ssh is hande for other things
[22:42] <dsmith_> *handy
[22:43] <solemnwarning> BluesKaj: It's just a file
[22:43] <solemnwarning> Just delete it like any other file
[22:45] <BluesKaj> sure...
[22:45] <ardchoille> fladd: Oh, no idea
[22:45] <LogicalK> Hey, would anyone bee able to help me with a sound recording issue in skype 1.4
[22:48] <awag> yo bicikli
[22:48] <awag> eer
[22:48] <awag> BigPick,
[22:48] <BigPick> Sup dude!
[22:48] <awag> whats up man
[22:49] <BluesKaj> solemnwarning, you make it sound so easy, but the bin file still runs after deleting it to the trash... any suggestions ? I'd like to install a newer version , but it won't run while the older file is still there
[22:49] <BigPick> How goes the battle :)
[22:49] <awag> interesting news :)
[22:49] <awag> so, last night after you got offline
[22:49] <solemnwarning> BluesKaj: You mean the process is running?
[22:49] <BigPick> awag: Yeah?
[22:49] <igniter> hello
[22:49] <awag> i reinstalled kubuntu 7.10 from cd onto an old harddrive in this machine
[22:49] <BluesKaj> nope , deleting the bin file didn't make any diuff
[22:49] <awag> and everything worked perfectly
[22:49] <awag> nvidia driver and compiz and everything
[22:49] <BigPick> awag: HAHAHA awsome!
[22:50] <solemnwarning> So the process isn't running and the file is in "trash"?
[22:50] <awag> BigPick, i still can't figure out what is wrong with this install though
[22:50] <BigPick> awag: That danged upgrader isn't worth beans man.
[22:50] <awag> BigPick, yeah apparently not
[22:50] <BluesKaj> oh well, stuff to do , I'll deal with it later
[22:50] <igniter> can the tempo be altered in Amarok? If not, any other player that can do it?
[22:50] <awag> BigPick, i think it also might have something to do with that i originally had normal ubuntu on this, and then i switched to kde, and then upgraded with adept to kubuntu 7.10
[22:51] <BigPick> awag: Yeah, there are alot of sources for error in that. :P
[22:51] <awag> BigPick, right now i'm wishing that i hadn't made my 300 gb harddrive into one big partition that is mounted on /
[22:51] <BigPick> awag: HAHA I know how you feel. I did the same thing on this laptop. I'm kicking myself.
[22:52] <BigPick> awag: But this was only the second linux install I ever did.
[22:52] <awag> BigPick, yeah, i'm not sure what i'm going to do, there isn't a good way to reinstall all the core files and settings and stuff from the kubuntu cd without formatting is there?
[22:53] <BigPick> awag: And I've had kubuntu on here since Hoary
[22:53] <BigPick> awag: Oh yeah there is.
[22:54] <BigPick> awag: Its just very complex.
[22:54] <awag> BigPick, oh, another thing that is interesting, is that i tried copying the xorg.conf from the fresh install, to see if it could do some magic on my current install, but it gave me the same error, so there is something wrong with my kernel module for the nvidia stuff i think
[22:54] <zareliman> are there any known problems on PCI WiFi management on Kubuntu ?
[22:54] <awag> BigPick, oh, well i think i might steer clear of it then
[22:54] <BigPick> awag: Possible :)
[22:55] <BigPick> awag: Yeah, I haven't done it on this machine yet. If I did, I would just wipe it and start again.
[22:55] <BigPick> awag: And I'm not a fan of just wiping things.
[22:56] <awag> BigPick, I am a fan of wiping things, but i'm not a fan of backing up 250 gb of data onto dvds
[22:56] <Angelus> awag: the kernel has bad settings for nvidia
[22:56] <awag> Angelus, oh?
[22:56] <Angelus> 1 bad setting is , they left framebuffer support for nvidia in the kernel, which is not compatable with the nvidia binary driver
[22:56] <BigPick> awag: Yeah, I have the luxury of a POS dell with a pentium II that has a couple 100GB drives in it :)
[22:56] <Timsen> awag: would make more sense to buy a second disk for the backup :)
[22:57] <BigPick> Angelus: When did the add the framebuffer support back in? I thought they specifically removed it in Feisty?
[22:57] <BigPick> That would explain the trouble though.
[22:57] <awag> Timsen, yeah i'm aware of that :)
[22:57] <BigPick> But that would cost money :)
[22:58] <awag> yes
[22:58] <awag> hehe
[22:58] <BigPick> I do everything on the cheap, i.e. lightly used :)
[22:58] <BigPick> Whenever someone is throwing out anything electronic I collect it :)
[22:58] <awag> yeah  thats the way to go
[22:59] <Angelus> BigPick: they made 1 big stupid mistake, they removed vesafb (the vesa framebuffer support) and aded framebuffer support for the rest of the cards, this causes 2 errors that i  know of, 1 error is what i explained above, second error is  ,, the left kubuntu bootup splash, which cannot be ran without vesafb on many cards, this will give the user a monitor turninf off til the login stcreen comes
[22:59] <BigPick> Someday here when I get done with a couple more of these EE courses I might actually be able to do cool stuff with it but meh.
[22:59] <BigPick> Angelus: Dude, you just explained what the hell is going on with my second sandbox tower.
[23:00] <BigPick> *grumbles* time for another recompile
[23:00] <Angelus> want me to give you the fix BigPick ?
[23:00] <Angelus> compile a custom kernel with vesafb on , and remove the the rest of the frame buffers,  only leave vesafb and vga
[23:00] <BigPick> Sure, I'm not familiar with the 2.6.22 config yet
[23:00] <BigPick> Sounds like a plan.
[23:01] <BigPick> Why in the hell did they do that though?
[23:01] <Angelus> you don't need to touch anything else, the make menuconfig will give you the options from the kubuntu's kernel, you don't have to edit anything, just the framebuffer part
[23:01] <Angelus> BigPick: i don't know, it costed me a weak to figure out what the problem was.
[23:02] <Angelus> all i know it was a very stupid thing
[23:02] <BigPick> HAHA, I've been doing custom compiles up until feisty because of these oddities (mostly wireless in nature).
[23:02] <awag> BigPick, and i could just use this 13 gb drive that i installed the fresh install on to boot from, and then mount my other drive as my home dir, but the damned geforce 6600 apparently sucks a shit-ton of power and when i plug it, and 4 ide drives in, one of the drives doesn't seem to get enough power, ie one of them always fails to mount
[23:02] <BigPick> Feisty I stopped because of the new linker support which works great.
[23:02] <Angelus> because if you have an nvidia card that only works with vesafb and not with VGA ,  you will have to compile a kernel everytime you format, which is about a 3GB kernel, since kubuntu chooses all options
[23:03] <BigPick> awag: PSU problems are the worst.
[23:03] <spimort> hi all
[23:04] <Angelus> psu problems, that i have
[23:04] <Angelus> my computer reboots when he feels like he wants too
[23:04] <BigPick> I never use the default config. I always spend a couple hours "optimizing", then the next three days figuring out what the hell I did.
[23:04] <Angelus> my computer turns on only when he feels like
[23:04] <awag> Angelus, haha, i know all about that
[23:04] <biovore> ah.. narctalepic computer eh..
[23:05] <BigPick> One of my towers would turn-off, then keep power cycling.
[23:05] <BigPick> It was so odd.
[23:05] <awag> Angelus, my mobo doesn't align with the screw holes in my case correctly, so if it gets bumped even a little bit it fucks up and shuts down
[23:05] <Angelus> whats a mobo?
[23:05] <BigPick> motherboard
[23:05] <awag> Angelus, and when that happens I have to unplug the atx power to get it to reboot, mobo = mother board
[23:05] <spimort> how can i install KBFX?
[23:05] <Angelus> oh
[23:06] <Angelus> mine just reboots
[23:06] <Angelus> i think power loss
[23:06] <Angelus> my psu is only 250Watts
[23:06] <spimort> ...
[23:06] <awag> wow
[23:06] <BigPick> spimort: Use adept and install the packages "kbfx, kubuntu-artwork-kbfx"
[23:06] <awag> what hardware is in it?
[23:07] <igniter> can the tempo be altered in Amarok? If not, any other player that can do it?
[23:07] <spimort> ok wait
[23:07] <BigPick> igniter: Not that I know of. You may have to resort to editing software like audacity.
[23:07] <spimort> and after what i need to do to us it?
[23:07] <Angelus> awag: AMD Athlon64 3200+ 512kB/s Cache , 2GHz, and  an Nvidia Geforce 8400GS
[23:07] <awag> wow
[23:08] <igniter> BigPick: ok thanks
[23:08] <awag> don't the recommend like 450 + for that kind of a settup?
[23:08] <BigPick> spimort: I forget, I did a kbfx install once but didn't keep it long.
[23:08] <awag> BigPick, do you know much about virtualbox?
[23:08] <spimort> ok
[23:08] <spimort> any body else?
[23:08] <BigPick> awage: Nothing :P
[23:08] <awag> k
[23:09] <Angelus> awag: people where like: how the hell is you're pc turning on with that psu? lol
[23:09] <awag> hehe
[23:09] <BigPick> spimort: Well what exactly is the problem you are experiencing?
[23:09] <spimort> i was instal kbfx but i dot know to use it
[23:10] <spimort> ...
[23:11] <BigPick> spimort: oh okay, well what you need to do is add the kbfx applet to your taskbar first
[23:12] <spimort> how?
[23:12] <BigPick> spimort: Right click on a blank portion of your taskbar and got to "Add Applet to Panel"
[23:12] <awag> ok, brb gonna go see if i can find a way to get my psu to let me boot all my drives
[23:12] <spimort> ok
[23:12] <spimort> wait
[23:12] <BigPick> spimort: That will bring up a dialog box. Search through it until you see kbfx
[23:13] <zareliman> Hi, i'm having problems with copy-paste on xsessions folder
[23:13] <zareliman> I want to add the KDE4 option
[23:13] <zareliman> and maybe the Gnome option (just want to kompare)
[23:14] <BigPick> zareliman: Okay what is the copy-past problem?
[23:14] <spimort> but its not remplace my other (the orginal «start»
[23:14] <zareliman> I can't add *.desktop files into that folder
[23:14] <zareliman> I understand that I have to add there the Desktops in order to access them on the logon screen
[23:15] <spimort> ...
[23:15] <BigPick> zareliman: Does it give you an error? Like a permissions or authorization?
[23:16] <BigPick> spimort: The two can co-exist if you like.
[23:16] <BigPick> spimort: Your default KMenu, is in fact, an applet aswell.
[23:16] <spimort> ok ... but it modify just my «start» not all of my menubar
[23:17] <BigPick> spimort: I'm not sure what you mean...
[23:18] <zareliman> BigPick Access denied
[23:18] <zareliman> I'm not sure if it's easier to work on terminal or on konkeror XD
[23:18] <spimort> humm ... in my menubar i have a start button , some software , the hour , etc ... but it's modify just the start
[23:18] <BigPick> zareliman: You need root privaleges to modify the xsessions folder.
[23:19] <zareliman> any suggestions on getting the sudo previlege on konkeror browsing ?
[23:19] <BigPick> zareliman: you will need to use konsole and "sudo cp"
[23:19] <DJ-KING> hey guys , i restarted once my machine and all of a sudden KDE doesn't work anymore .. i installed fluxbox
[23:19] <DJ-KING> any idea how do i fix KDE again ?
[23:20] <spimort> ...
[23:20] <BigPick> spimort: I still don't understand what you want to do.
[23:20] <BigPick> DJ-KING: When you boot do you go strait to a termial? i.e. Prompt.
[23:20] <WaltzingAlong> DJ-KING: next time at kdm, pick 'kde' as your session rather than fluxbox
[23:21] <BigPick> ^^^What he said :)
[23:21] <spimort> ok well ... its not important
[23:21] <DJ-KING> WaltzingAlong: KDE starts with nothing but a terminal opened
[23:21] <hangthedj> zareliman, you can do ALT+F2 then type kdesu konqueror, just remember to close it after.
[23:21] <BigPick> spimort: Are you trying to add kbfx to your taskbar/
[23:21] <spimort> no its good
[23:21] <WaltzingAlong> DJ-KING: seems like fluxbox starts
[23:21] <Makdaam_> hello
[23:22] <BigPick> zareliman: sure, launch konqueror from a console using "sudo konqueror"
[23:22] <hangthedj> for gui, you want to use kdesu
[23:23] <WaltzingAlong> BigPick: please, not sudo konqueror         either kdesu konqueror or kdesudo konqueror
[23:23] <DJ-KING> WaltzingAlong: i could choose KDE but again , it opens with a terminalinside , no menu no icons nothing at all .. and when i do try to right click or do anything x gets killed and i go back to kdm
[23:23] <BigPick> zareliman: oh yeah sorry
[23:23] <BigPick> My bad, my bad, old habbits sorry
[23:23] <ubuntu> hey guys, just wanted to say i love kubuntu! great work! Thanks!
[23:24] <WaltzingAlong> DJ-KING: merely installing fluxbox should not have done. make sure to install kubuntu-desktop            and it may also help to reinstall kubuntu-default-settings
[23:24] <zareliman> thanks I'm getting used to this
[23:24] <BigPick> zareliman: The most correct way to do it would be to go to Menu -> Run Command -> "kdesu konqueror"
[23:25] <hangthedj> when did ubotu get traded for ubot3?
[23:25] <hangthedj> ALT+F2 = run command
[23:25] <DJ-KING> WaltzingAlong: both are installed
[23:26] <stdin> hangthedj: ubotu went down, ubot3 is the temporary replacement
[23:26] <BigPick> hangthedj: HAHAH, okay okay, I think its obvious I am far more comforitable in a terminal than in a gui.
[23:26] <zareliman> I'm using sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop
[23:26] <anto> Is it possible to remove all the gui files and reinstall them
[23:26] <zareliman> but it says 'kde4.desktop' is not a directory
[23:27] <anto> somthing has screwed up my glx applications they frezze everynow and then after i installed a theme
[23:27] <hangthedj> stdin, i need to read my log more often when there are problems.. :)
[23:27] <stdin> zareliman: just copy the kde.desktop to kde4.desktop and edit it
[23:28] <akhilpawar> hi ..
[23:28] <BigPick> I didn't know an IRC bot could... go down. :P
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> only if you put enough high octane oil in her! :0
[23:29] <stdin> BigPick: it's just a client, like any other
[23:29] <BigPick> stdin: Very true.
[23:30] <DJ-KING> how do i get to re install a package
[23:30] <DJ-KING> ?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> install it with the force option? I do belive theres a reinstall optiuon also
[23:30] <BigPick> DJ-KING: In adept you can right-click on the "Remove" button and select other options.
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> but theres rarely a need to reinstall a package.
[23:31] <stdin> "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>"
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> unless of course you deleted somthing ya shouldent of.
[23:31] <BigPick> I prefer to reconfigure really.
[23:31] <Makdaam_> DJ-KING: in Adept manager you can rightclick and select "request reinstall"
[23:32] <dave> if have upgraded to gutsy from feisty and now my RT2500 wifi cardbus dont work. any advice?
[23:33] <dave> if have upgraded to gutsy from feisty and now my RT2500 wifi cardbus dont work. any advice?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> other then check the forums.. :) ?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> Ive never had one of those - so cant help much  in person
[23:33] <dave> yehhhhh..... kinda wanted immediate answer innit
[23:34] <frank23> PenguinTV users: is it possible to have finer control over bittorrent settings. seed until 1:1 ratio for example
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> But i do know the wireless forums have a lot of chatter.
[23:34] <BigPick> dave: This problem has been experienced by a number of users.
[23:34] <BigPick> dave: Lemme see if I can walk you through this.
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> frank23,  differnt torrent clients have different features. Im not sure if ktorrent can do that or not.
[23:34] <dave> BigPick care to elaborate? many thanks
[23:34] <zareliman> how can I add KDE4 or Gnome to my Xsessions ? to have an option on login screen
[23:35] <frank23> Dr_Willis: penguintv has bittorrent integrated.
[23:35] <BigPick> dave: Yes, there was a user on last night who had the exact same issue.
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> frank23,  i though he was talking TO penguintv :) heh
[23:35] <frank23> Dr_Willis: heh
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> guess theres not a lot of users of it in here eh.. :)
[23:35] <dave> BigPick right whats the solutions sir? :)
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> TuxTV sounds cooler.
[23:36] <BigPick> dave: In his case we had to recompile a different version of the driver, but I'm hoping we won't have to do that.
[23:36] <frank23> Dr_Willis: what is tuxtv?
[23:36] <dave> BigPick k
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> frank23,  a cooler sounding name then PenguinTV :)
[23:37] <frank23> Dr_Willis: I guess
[23:37] <BigPick> dave: lemme check something here real quick
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> Whats PenguinTV anyway
[23:37] <eagles0513875> sup amy
[23:37] <eagles0513875> !democracy
[23:37] <ubot3> Factoid democracy not found
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[23:37] <ubot3> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[23:37] <dave> BigPick k
[23:38] <frank23> Dr_Willis: its a rss feed reader that also handles video feeds (including torrents)
[23:38] <frank23> Dr_Willis: like Miro
[23:38] <eagles0513875> is there a program that will allow u to watch ur cable tv connection via ethernet
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> I do like Miro. Cant get it working on ubuntu yet.
[23:38] <MilesG> Dr_Willis: how do you beat the second stage on supertux?
[23:38] <rino> who can help me ? My gutsy on laptop don't start very well and i must press ctrl+alt+f1 every  access
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> eagles0513875,  mythtv can do a similer task to that. with some work
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> MilesG,  i dont recall ever playing supertux
[23:39] <MilesG> !miro | MilesG
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> !info supertux
[23:39] <ubot3> supertux: Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 690 kB, installed size 1996 kB
[23:39] <MilesG> Dr_Willis: i was just kidding
[23:40] <dave> BigPick hang on must register
[23:40] <BigPick> dave: don't worry then
[23:41] <BigPick> dave: Can you real quick check for me that "iface ra0" is active in your /etc/network/interfaces
[23:42] <DJ-KING> WaltzingAlong: BigPick: thank you guys , after reinstalling kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-default-settings packages KDE is back to work again
[23:42] <dave> is yes but i changed that to "auto ra0" before
[23:43] <eagles0513875> !mythtv
[23:43] <ubot3> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[23:43] <dave> BigPick is yes but i changed that to "auto ra0" before
[23:43] <BigPick> dave: thats fine :) In gutsy they changed to a different driver "rt61_pci"
[23:43] <WaltzingAlong> DJ-KING: great