[12:15] <FANNY> join
[12:15] <littlepaul> :)
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[12:15] <M_Cheevy> P3L: it's either a bot or a script gone nuts...
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[12:15] <denny> /ignore fanny!*@* all   (for x-chat or irssi users)
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[12:15] <Sonderblade> i cant compile any gnomeprojects from cvs, make always fails with "cd: somedirectory: File or directory not found" anyone have the same problem?
[12:15] <Myrtti> and he/she/it would've stopped if understood what we're saying and/or cared
[12:15] <Ng> denny: "/ignore fanny" is enough in irssi
[12:15] <mustard5> thanks Seveas
[12:15] <M_Cheevy> here we go...
[12:15] <dj_smilee|work> lol
[12:15] <redguy|work> thank you Seveas
[12:15] <Weasel--> What the bloody hell?
[12:15] <littlepaul> LOL
[12:15] <jdeange2> hahahahaha
[12:15] <alex_laurent> denny: works like a charm, thanks! I had to type the whole thing.
[12:16] <Astxist> \o/
[12:16] <thundr> Thanks, Seveas
[12:16] <juliux> svizzero, thanks
[12:16] <M_Cheevy> cool! site ban the bugger ;)
[12:16] <jdeange2> \m/
[12:16] <M_Cheevy> 202.159.68.*
[12:16] <jdeange2> who knows who else is on that range though
[12:16] <alex_laurent> mustard5: Hey, I'm back!  When only my primary monitor is on, I get small font in GDM... Strange, huh?
[12:17] <denny> have fun guys
[12:17] <mustard5> alex_laurent, yes :)
[12:17] <Ng> alex_laurent: not necessarily that strange
[12:17] <Ng> alex_laurent: if it's trying to probe the monitors to find out their refresh rates and one isn't on, it may well get confused
[12:17] <alex_laurent> Ng: Does that prblem sound familiar to you?
[12:18] <M_Cheevy> alex: dualview?
[12:18] <alex_laurent> Ng: Right...
[12:18] <alex_laurent> M_Cheevy: exactly, on an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200...
[12:18] <M_Cheevy> alex: give this one a read: http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0150048402/linux/Multiple_Nvidia_Multiple_Head.html
[12:18] <nomin> I just installed ubuntu for the first time on my computer.  I tested it first on an older computer.  So far so good.  It even recognized mandriva for bootloader.
[12:19] <M_Cheevy> alex: more than what you're doing but it talks about getting up the fps rates on the nvidia driver
[12:19] <nomin> I've got my first triple booter
[12:19] <mustard5> nomin, :)
[12:19] <ne0ne> hello ppl
[12:19] <M_Cheevy> nomin: cool, which ones?
[12:19] <mustard5> greetings ne0ne
[12:19] <nomin> xp, mandriva, ubuntu
[12:20] <ne0ne> I needed help regarding broadcom wifi drivers for ubuntu
[12:20] <M_Cheevy> nomin: using debian (for now), xp, 2k adv srv, and 2003 SBS
[12:20] <mustard5> ne0ne, you want a link to a wiki guide?
[12:20] <ne0ne> i m not sure whom to talk to
[12:20] <Seveas> ne0ne, broadcom
[12:20] <ne0ne> but if u say so yeah :)
[12:20] <ne0ne> yeah seveas
[12:20] <M_Cheevy> ne0ne: the wiki is a pretty good place to start..
[12:20] <Seveas> they have no linux drivers, so talk to them
[12:21] <ne0ne> i have an hp laptop with broadcom adapcter
[12:21] <Seveas> in the mean time, use ndiswrapper to work with it
[12:21] <Seveas> !ndiswrapper
[12:21] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:21] <ne0ne> ahh yeah i have downloaded ndiswrapper
[12:21] <ne0ne> but just wanted to check wether its workin properly on ubunty
[12:21] <ne0ne> sorry ubuntu
[12:21] <mustard5> ne0ne, read through the guide and it will show you how to proceed
[12:21] <mattyv> i can tell u that ndis worked for my broadcom based pcmcia wireless G adapter
[12:22] <ne0ne> thanx mustard5
[12:22] <ne0ne> thanx mattyv, seveas, m_cheevy
[12:22] <ne0ne> I am an IT student in singapore
[12:22] <ne0ne> its good to meet all u guys
[12:22] <momo> someone care 2 help me with a fstab config ?
[12:22] <mustard5> ne0ne, good luck :)
[12:22] <momo> prv if so
[12:22] <M_Cheevy> ne0ne: greetings from NZ
[12:22] <ne0ne> thanx mustard5
[12:22] <mustard5> momo, ask the question in channel
[12:23] <M_Cheevy> momo: fire away...
[12:23] <ne0ne> greetings M_Cheevy
[12:23] <momo> so i got several vfat & 1 ntfs
[12:23] <momo> pb is how to set up fstab properly
[12:23] <momo> i mean ... they do mount auto
[12:23] <momo> except ntfs
[12:23] <momo> but ... i dont have w access
[12:23] <mustard5> momo, there is  script you can run that will do it all automatically
[12:23] <momo> where
[12:24] <mustard5> momo, I'll show you in a tick....but I have to mention some stuff first
[12:24] <M_Cheevy> I see a big time caveat coming down the road....
[12:24] <mustard5> momo, the script is a bit finicky so it wont work if 1. you have entries in your fstab for windows drives already...and 2. your drives are currently mounted already
[12:24] <mustard5> ubotu: tell momo about windowsdrives
[12:24] <momo> well
[12:25] <mustard5> momo, the link the script should be in a PM from ubotu
[12:25] <mustard5> momo, I can walk you through it if you want to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <M_Cheevy> mustard: how good is the ntfs write support, last time I tried it was when it was still experimental... nuked my partition table...
[12:25] <momo> ok
[12:25] <Myrtti> bad
[12:25] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, I just tell everyone they can't write to ntfs :)
[12:25] <momo> channel does not exist :s
[12:26] <mustard5> ..#kubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <M_Cheevy> mustard5: safest bet...
[12:26] <momo> mustard5, got it right now
[12:27] <nomin> will most packages that work on debian also work on ubuntu?
[12:27] <Madpilot> nomin: that's not recommended - it could well break your Ubuntu
[12:28] <ne0ne> second thing, I have an older version (5.04) can i upgrade it to the latest 5.10 (coz i ordered 5.10 cdz today)
[12:28] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[12:28] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:28] <ne0ne> thanx madpilot
[12:28] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get the command "crypt" to work ?
[12:29] <CaptainMorgan> command not found
[12:30] <linkd> crypt, id imagine, is a program. so you'd just need to find the program CaptainMorgan
[12:30] <M_Cheevy> CaptainMorgan: just a shot in the dark, but have you checked in your package manager to see if it's installed?
[12:30] <nomin> how does ubuntu (canonical) make money?
[12:30] <linkd> its owner is rich?
[12:30] <CaptainMorgan> yes cheevy, there's no evidence of one
[12:31] <joedj> CaptainMorgan: mcrypt
[12:31] <CaptainMorgan> not a program - it's a command
[12:31] <M_Cheevy> nomin: they were endowed.. the money they haven't spent is earning interest... hopefully faster than they're spending it
[12:31] <linkd> CaptainMorgan: sudo apt-get install mcrypt
[12:31] <linkd> or w/e
[12:32] <jdeange2> HATES X.ORG, PRECIOUSSSSSSSS
[12:32] <zandaa> darnit!~!!!!
[12:32] <M_Cheevy> jdeange2: still goofin on the keyboard is it?
[12:32] <zandaa> the GDM can't load because it says it's non-existant O_O
[12:33] <jdeange2> and mouse
[12:33] <CaptainMorgan> nah.. not found
[12:33] <CaptainMorgan> still
[12:33] <Ng> jdeange2: can you put /var/log/Xorg.0.log into a pastebin?
[12:33] <CaptainMorgan> even after sudo apt-get
[12:33] <M_Cheevy> jde: and you renamed and did dpkg-recon....?
[12:34] <joedj> CaptainMorgan: what's ls -l /usr/bin/crypt say?
[12:34] <Madpilot> later, all. need sleep.
[12:35] <kbrooks> Can someone help me?
[12:35] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all!i can't use the nvidia drivers with dapper!if i use them gdm gives this error (can't find nvidia module etcetc) is there something i can do?
[12:35] <kbrooks> I want to limit bandwith
[12:35] <Ng> B|4ckm0r3: you can not run dapper :)
[12:36] <kbrooks> in order to run both irc / dl side by side
[12:36] <kbrooks> any ideas?
[12:36] <B|4ckm0r3> Ng:  lol!i know but it's not a bug maybe it's just a configuration problem, i know that dapper is unstable but...!
[12:36] <Rainbow-Six> hi
[12:36] <Ng> kbrooks: there's a tool called "tc" that controls the kernel's QoS code to do that kind of thing, but it's pretty complex
[12:37] <joedj> kbrooks: you can also modprobe shaper and apt-get install shapecfg
[12:37] <kbrooks> thanks.
[12:38] <Ng> shapecfg is for outgoing traffic?
[12:38] <joedj> years since i used it, i can't remember. i think it might do both directions
[12:38] <Ng> nope
[12:38] <Ng> "Incoming traffic may not be limited or shaped using this utility.
[12:38] <Ng> "
[12:39] <kbrooks> dang.
[12:40] <CaptainMorgan> joedj no such file or dire
[12:40] <nomin> does anyone know when google earth will be available on linux?
[12:40] <thefish> nomin: it does not run with wine?
[12:41] <joedj> CaptainMorgan: are you sure you installed mcrypt? it should show up on dpkg -l mcrypt|grep ^ii
[12:41] <kbrooks> ng: i need a way to reduce the speed of downloads
[12:41] <CaptainMorgan> no packages found matching mcrypt
[12:42] <nomin> I've tried wine on mandriva, I haven't had success with wine yet.
[12:43] <alex_laurent> mustard5, Ng: I give up for the moment. Nothing I try works for my font size problem on my dual-head NVidia (btw, the second monitor just shows garbage whenever X is up). Argh...
[12:43] <mustard5> alex_laurent, sleep on it maybe :)
[12:43] <nomin> I haven't got one thing to work on wine.  I even tried the cedega demo, it installed a game but the game wouldn't execute.
[12:43] <alex_laurent> mustard5, Ng: Thanks for your patience...
[12:43] <sherwin> hello
[12:43] <mustard5> alex_laurent, np
[12:44] <sherwin> how do i know if my video uses nvidia drivers
[12:44] <alex_laurent> mustard5: :-) See you.
[12:44] <dirkson> Hey all... I'm trying to load an app when my xsession starts, and no matter what I try, GDM just isn't working with me... Any hints? :-/
[12:44] <CaptainMorgan> I checked over at LinuxQuestions but can't find it... anybody know how to get my thinkpads scroll button to work? I know it's in the config file but Im not sure how to edit it
[12:44] <mustard5> alex_laurent, cya
[12:45] <Ng> CaptainMorgan: if you install mcrypt, you'll have the crypt command
[12:45] <nomin> does limewire run on ubuntu?
[12:45] <CaptainMorgan> ng I tried the apt-get mcrypt - no packages found
[12:45] <Ng> CaptainMorgan: you'll need to enable the universe repository then
[12:46] <CaptainMorgan> how ?
[12:46] <CaptainMorgan> I tried to do that in Systems/Repositioris
[12:46] <CaptainMorgan> under synaptic.. but what exactly do you check ?
[12:47] <dirkson> No one has any ideas? Crazy stuff, this... Hard to find info about it on the internet. Don't MOST people need to start at least a COUPLE apps when they log in?
[12:47] <marky> hi
[12:47] <sherwin> hello
[12:47] <sherwin> how do i configure my ubuntu to be my internet server?
[12:48] <Ng> CaptainMorgan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:48] <elijah> whats the best compression program that deals with .rar
[12:48] <marky> does anyone know about i adjust power settings for my laptop in ubuntu? i did hve a little battery indicator but its dissapered
[12:48] <alex_laurent> dirkson: How about "gnome-session-properties" in the 3rd tab?
[12:48] <HymnToLife> marky > install gnome-power-manager
[12:48] <Ng> elijah: rar ;)
[12:48] <Ng> elijah: it's in multiverse
[12:48] <pottsy> lol
[12:48] <marky> ok  thanks
[12:48] <`23meg> sherwin, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:48] <elijah> thanks
[12:48] <CaptainMorgan> I mean, what do I do with this ? [URL=http://imageshack.us] [IMG] http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7895/screenshot0pz.png[/IMG] [/URL]
[12:48] <HymnToLife> !rar
[12:48] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[12:49] <CaptainMorgan> http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7895/screenshot0pz.png
[12:49] <dirkson> Alex: *shakes head* Nope. That works ok in Gnome, but gnome is waay too memory intensive. I'm tinkering with openbox now
[12:49] <Alex> dirkson?
[12:49] <Ng> CaptainMorgan: the page says what to do... "Scroll down and enable the Universe repository by ticking the checkbox next to Community Maintained (Universe)."
[12:50] <dirkson> Alex_laurent: *shakes head* Nope. That works ok in Gnome, but gnome is waay too memory intensive. I'm tinkering with openbox now
[12:50] <CaptainMorgan> there are no check boxes - check out my pic
[12:50] <alex_laurent> Alex: he meant me...
[12:50] <Alex> ah :)
[12:50] <dirkson> Alex and Alex_laurent: *head spins*
[12:50] <Alex> dirkson: I was here first ;P
[12:50] <Ng> CaptainMorgan: then you didn't read the previous instruction... "Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Then click the Close"
[12:50] <alex_laurent> dirkson: Isn't there an equivalent in that windows manager?
[12:51] <CaptainMorgan> ok... well.. it appears they were already checked
[12:51] <dirkson> alex_laurent: Nope, it's minimalistic. It insists that GDM has a way to autostart stuff. (Seriously minimalistic. It dun' even have a taskbar, man.)
[12:52] <alex_laurent> dirkson: It's true GDM does show a couple icons in the splash screen when it loads. Theses are things he loads. Mmh...
[12:52] <sherwin> thanks 23 meg
[12:52] <CaptainMorgan> aha... that's the stuff
[12:52] <Jaymac> hey CaptainMorgan
[12:52] <borup> dirkson: gdm *does* have a way to autostart stuff - but you have to fiddle with shell scripts
[12:53] <Jaymac> Did you sort everything out?
[12:53] <dirkson> alex_laurent: Most places with GDM point me back to ~/.Xsession and /etc/(somestuff)/Xsession, but neither of those seem to really affect anything when I put commands in them
[12:53] <nomin> Ubuntu was up and running on my pc pretty quickly, it was only 20 minutes to download the updates.
[12:53] <CaptainMorgan> howdy Jaymac :)
[12:53] <sherwin> 23meg what i mean is my ubuntu be my internet gateway
[12:53] <dirkson> Borup: Oh? Which particular ones, do you know offhand?
[12:53] <CaptainMorgan> I ended up reinstalling it
[12:53] <Jaymac> Did you lose all your data?
[12:53] <CaptainMorgan> backed up everything...
[12:54] <Jaymac> with Knoppix?
[12:54] <CaptainMorgan> fortunately - nah, regular Live
[12:54] <Jaymac> oh.. nice one
[12:54] <alex_laurent> dirkson: Maybe in /etc/gdm/ ? Have you had a look there?
[12:54] <borup> dirkson: should be in /etc/X11/gdm
[12:54] <Jaymac> Glad to hear you got sorted out ok
[12:54] <CaptainMorgan> thanks for the help yesterday :)
[12:55] <Jaymac> np.. just sorry I wasn't the one to come up with a fix :)
[12:55] <dirkson> Borup and Alex_laurent: I've looked in most of the files in those two places, but I know I haven't been exaustive yet... Back to the coal mine, I suppose
[12:55] <Jaymac> did the fresh install go ok?
[12:56] <borup> dirkson: you should also be able to stick a .xsession shell script in your home dir
[12:56] <Jaymac> any issues with the ati card?
[12:56] <CaptainMorgan> fresh install going good... spent most of today and still going reconfiguring everything
[12:56] <CaptainMorgan> maybe the wifi isn't meant to be on this machine
[12:57] <borup> are there any iso's of dapper?
[12:57] <dirkson> borup: .xsession or .Xsession?
[12:57] <borup> dirkson: .xsession
[12:58] <nomin> how successful is ubuntu with nvidia drivers?
[12:58] <Jaymac> very
[12:58] <dirkson> borup: ok. Lemme see what mind is name
[12:58] <dirkson> d
[12:59] <nomin> I have nvidia geforce4.  I types 'glxgears' in console and they're moving very slow.  there is no data at all being displayed in the console.
[12:59] <Ng> nomin: glxgears no longer runs as fast as possibe printing fps details
[12:59] <Seveas> nomin, glxgears is not a benchmark
[01:00] <kbrooks> ng: why?
[01:00] <nomin> how can I test video acceleration on ubuntu?
[01:00] <kbrooks> Seveas, what is it for?
[01:00] <Seveas> just to test whether glx *works*
[01:00] <Ng> kbrooks: you'd have to ask the author that, it does have an option to re-enable the old behaviour: -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:00] <nomin> I guess I could just try to play a game that needs acceleration.
[01:01] <kbrooks> ng: lol?
[01:01] <kbrooks> ng: who would add such a long option?
[01:02] <Ng> kbrooks: someone who doesn't like their program being used as a benchmark, I guess
[01:02] <ne0ne> bye ppl, thanx for the support
[01:02] <kbrooks> ng:very funny ... not
[01:02] <marky> hymmtolife that was it  , worked a treat thanks again
[01:03] <dirkson> borup: Nope. GDM ignores that file too
[01:03] <nomin> I just can't believe I can get a fully functional linux distro, that's easy to use, with support, for free.  There's gotta be a catch somewhere.
[01:03] <Ng> nomin: someone will be along to collect your soul later ;)
[01:04] <Sleepwalker> Hi
[01:04] <borup> dirkson: is it executable?
[01:04] <kbrooks> nomin, so you cant believe it. ok.
[01:04] <dirkson> borup: No, no... GDM ERASES THAT FILE. WHAT IN THE WORLD? (Please pardon shouting)
[01:04] <marky> lol Ng
[01:04] <Sleepwalker> i need a prog to browse bin files
[01:04] <dirkson> borup: I, er........ What?
[01:04] <Xappe> I have a dual head setup. When trying to open firefox on the second display (:0.1), I get an error saying that firefox is already running (it is, on display :0.0). This happens even when using the --display :0.0  option from :0.1 . Suggestions?
[01:04] <Ng> nomin: if you feel like you should be giving something back, you're welcome to hang around and help others, or write docs, or code, etc. etc. :)
[01:05] <Sleepwalker> is there something out like iosbuster 4 ubuntu ??
[01:05] <ElitePete> nomin, because open source is great!
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Xappe: are you prompted to create a new profile ?
[01:05] <nomin> I like it when things are dummy friendly.  Maybe I'll try to make some dummy freindly docs for noobs.
[01:06] <Jaymac> nomin: here's how to give something back.. never ever use the word 'noob' again :)
[01:06] <marky> lmao
[01:06] <kbrooks> What is THE BEST WAY to limit download speeds across every program to say, 10 kb/s
[01:06] <kbrooks> ?
[01:06] <Xappe> thoreauputic: no, to close the running firefox or restart my system
[01:07] <nomin> I actually really good at helping ordinary people understand complex things.  I have gotton people that don't know chemistry and math to actually understand it.
[01:07] <borup> dirkson: odd
[01:07] <thoreauputic> Xappe: hmm - odd - I would expect a prompt for a new profile at least
[01:07] <kbrooks> What is THE BEST WAY to limit download speeds across every program to say, 10 kb/s?
[01:07] <kbrooks> Anyone?
[01:07] <thoreauputic> Xappe: you coud try creating a new profile and see if that works
[01:07] <joedj> kbrooks: probably that QoS thing someone mentioned earlier, but that probably won't be great either
[01:08] <dirkson> borup: Here's what my file SHOULD be saying, in its entirety: (Pardon for paste. Not even bit enough for pastebin) exec docker -wmaker &
[01:08] <dirkson>      exec gaim
[01:08] <_nano_> !pastebin
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:08] <kbrooks> joedj, do you know?
[01:08] <dirkson> borup: Formatting's a bit off, but you see what I mean, no?
[01:08] <joedj> kbrooks: it's hard to limit downstream traffic at the TCP/IP level when lots of devices don't support it, stuff like bittorrent does it at a higher level
[01:08] <Xappe> thoreauputic: oh, forgot to mention that i'm running ff 1.5, but that should not make a difference?
[01:08] <kbrooks> joedj, i want to be uniform.
[01:08] <Ng> Xappe: try starting the second copy with -ProfileManager
[01:08] <Myrtti> it could make a difference
[01:09] <nomin> jaymac, I'll remember that.
[01:09] <thoreauputic> Xappe: I don't really know to be honest
[01:09] <Jaymac> Hehe :)
[01:09] <Xappe> Ng: ok
[01:09] <kbrooks> joedj, why is it hard?
[01:09] <Xappe> thoreauputic: ok
[01:09] <Xappe> i'll try profile manager, and the old firefox
[01:09] <thoreauputic> Xappe: try Ng 's suggestion - that's what I was thinking too
[01:09] <dirkson> kbrooks: Something with iptables, I'd wager? Haven't gotten much into it myself.
[01:09] <borup> dirkson: you may have to start you wm in your .xsession (I don't recall) - but it shouldn't get deleted
[01:10] <dirkson> borup: wm?
[01:10] <joedj> kbrooks: because the remote end just sends stuff as fast as it wants to/can, you need to tell it not to with the IP QoS stuff, but many routers will ignore that info (this was my understanding several years ago, i don't think much has changed)
[01:10] <WaterSevenUb> hi
[01:10] <borup> dirkson: window manager
[01:10] <marky> brb , need to move rooms, got to unplug!!
[01:11] <dirkson> borup: Ah... But it starts fine automatically. I've got that set in the gdm.conf file
[01:11] <Ng> kbrooks: the easiest solution might be to use a download manager (e.g. d4x) that can limit its own speeds - setting it up in the linux networking code is hard
[01:11] <borup> dirkson: I said you might have to
[01:11] <MrFarts> hey, does ayone know of any open relay that i can use for testing
[01:12] <thoreauputic> MrFarts: hah
[01:12] <Xappe> Ng, thoreauputic: ok, it worked using the profile manager...but it's strange that I cant run in the same profile using the --display option
[01:12] <Ng> Xappe: it's not strange, you can't run two copies of the same profile at the same time
[01:12] <MrFarts> thoreauputic, eh ?
[01:12] <Ng> Xappe: if you want two copies on two heads you'll need two profiles
[01:12] <thoreauputic> Xappe: moz and ff are odd like that - they never have liked multiple instances running for some reason
[01:13] <WaterSevenUb> can someone point me to documentation on how to configure "Insert Video" in Openoffice Impress (using breezy)... if that's possible. ?
[01:13] <dirkson> borup: Fair enough : )
[01:13] <Xappe> Ng: ok, but I was sending all firefoxes to the same display
[01:13] <thoreauputic> MrFarts: for "testing" eh? Sure.... <grin>
[01:13] <Ng> thoreauputic: it's not odd, it's because running multiple copies would screw up your profile badly
[01:13] <MrFarts> thoreauputic, i'm testing some silly perl code
[01:14] <dirkson> borup: *tests* It may be some odd permissions thing.... Is there a way to change permissions from the comman line?
[01:14] <MrFarts> thoreauputic,  i want to make sure that the mesage will go through the relay
[01:14] <Ng> thoreauputic: you'd have two browsers writing to the same history/cache/etc files
[01:14] <CaptainMorgan> linuxforums -can't find what Im looking for.. in xorg.conf what do i change for my thinkpad scroll button to function?
[01:14] <Ng> that way monsters lie
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Ng: OK :)
[01:14] <borup> dirkson: chmod 755 ~/.xsession
[01:15] <dirkson> borup: Thanks
[01:15] <Xappe> Ng, yes...but shouldn't I be able to open a new tab in firefox already running on display :0.0 from :0.1 (still a newbie at dual heading)
[01:16] <onkarshinde> Any idea how many days to FF 1.5 in breezy?
[01:16] <Jaymac> onkar.. just do it yourself
[01:16] <Jaymac> there are some good HOWTO's around
[01:16] <kbrooks> ng: prozilla cant limit its own bandwith.
[01:16] <mwe> onkarshinde: it wont be in breezy. maybe in backports some day
[01:16] <onkarshinde> Jaymac: I wish I could. I am not a developer and don't at all know debian packaging.
[01:16] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: never - it would require too many recompiles of stuff that relies on it apparently
[01:16] <mjr> Xappe, you can write a firefox wrapper script that basically does "exec env DISPLAY=:0.0 firefox $" or something, and then it'll always use the :0.0 firefox
[01:17] <mjr> $@
[01:17] <onkarshinde> mwe: Yup. I meant backports
[01:17] <andy108> hello all
[01:17] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: bad news
[01:17] <Sleepwalker> wanna browse bin files how to ??
[01:17] <Jaymac> onkarshinde...
[01:17] <Jaymac> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[01:17] <Jaymac> EASY
[01:17] <mwe> onkarshinde: well I have no idea. installing it manually is easy though. just follow the wiki
[01:17] <kbrooks> mwe: no
[01:17] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: of course you can runthe mozilla.org binary - it just won't integrate properly
[01:17] <kbrooks> mwe: it wont be in bp
[01:17] <kbrooks> never
[01:17] <andy108> is there a good security programme for unencrypted wireless networks?
[01:18] <mwe> kbrooks: I see. and why not
[01:18] <pitti> andy108: ssh is the only sane thing
[01:18] <kbrooks> i read on distrowatch weekly
[01:18] <Xappe> mjr: ah, ok...and then add the script to the gnome preferred apps?
[01:18] <kbrooks> recent one
[01:18] <asolten> Im sorry if this is a dumb question but how do I delete and copy folders ?
[01:18] <Sleepwalker> ???? No help ???
[01:18] <Sleepwalker> k
[01:18] <Jaymac> asolten
[01:18] <Sleepwalker> :(
[01:18] <Jaymac> sudo rm -r foldername
[01:18] <pitti> andy108: or IPsec, of course
[01:18] <andy108> thanks is there a howto for ssh with Breezy
[01:18] <Jaymac> sudo cp /location/folder /newlocation
[01:19] <Jaymac> sudo mv /location/folder /newlocation <-- to move file/folder
[01:19] <pitti> andy108: depends on what you actually want to achieve?
[01:19] <onkarshinde> By the way. I see no way in hoary to send something over bluetooth to a mobile phone. (I haven't yet updated my dad's laptop to breezy). Does anyone now what to do? I can only receive files.
[01:19] <asolten> Jaymac,  you seem to be here whenever I need you... Thanks ;)
[01:19] <mwe> kbrooks: isn't that what backports are for, back porting new desktop software from the next release?
[01:19] <Jaymac> :)
[01:19] <pitti> andy108: 'security program' is way too fuzzy
[01:19] <kbrooks> recent one
[01:19] <Jaymac> in between lectures at the moment hehe
[01:19] <kbrooks> mwe: just read it.
[01:20] <mwe> kbrooks: read what?
[01:20] <andy108> OK i mean on individual comperters on unencrpted network
[01:20] <kbrooks> issue 130, dw weekly
[01:20] <kbrooks> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20051212#3
[01:20] <pitti> andy108: yes, but what do you want to *do* over the network? shell, http, ...?
[01:21] <Ng> onkarshinde: I think there are some obex ftp tools for doing that
[01:21] <kbrooks> mwe: note this: "Backporting is a sweet way for us to enjoy the hot new things in the Open Source world without compromising stability like running a development/CVS/snapshot release."
[01:21] <onkarshinde> Ng: Isn't there any GUI thing in hoary?
[01:22] <Ng> onkarshinde: not as far as I know
[01:22] <Ng> backporting is a sweet way to allow impatient people to knacker their machine when they next do a dist-upgrade ;)
[01:22] <Renski> Has anyone ever tried using an external USB DVD RW/ CD RW drive with Ubuntu?
[01:22] <kbrooks> mwe: also, see the example below
[01:23] <kbrooks> also, this part ...
[01:23] <kbrooks> "
[01:23] <kbrooks> Sometimes, there is more to a package than meets the eye -- especially true of Firefox. It's not just a browser (though that's what most people think) -- it's an embeddable HTML rendering library that's used at the core level by a majority of the Linux desktop programs that utilize HTML rendering."
[01:23] <plichel> hallo
[01:23] <Renski> hey
[01:23] <andy108> its just for security for each unit no not much shell just yet --but since I shate a unencrypted network with 5 others /plus how can I access my computer via ssh when I am away all the others are XP fans.
[01:23] <andy108> noate but sharet sh
[01:23] <kbrooks> mwe: backporting firefox would break FIFTY programs
[01:24] <kbrooks> and/or libraries
[01:24] <kbrooks> that use it
[01:24] <andy108> ok ok the word is share
[01:24] <plichel> is that an icq client ?
[01:24] <marky> back
[01:24] <marky> ;)
[01:24] <mwe> kbrooks: I see. untarring it yourself breaks nothing though
[01:24] <pitti> andy108: you have to install 'openssh-server', then you can log into your computer remotely with 'ssh login@yourbox'
[01:24] <onkarshinde> Ng: Do you know how to use a blutooth enabled GPRS phone as modem?
[01:24] <kbrooks> therefore: "A part of the Code of Conduct (the core philosophy behind Ubuntu) is to be considerate."
[01:24] <pitti> andy108: google for an ssh tutorial
[01:24] <pitti> andy108: ssh even allows you to run GUI programs remotely
[01:25] <andy108> what the firewall the others are useing on there xp machines
[01:25] <onkarshinde> plichel: please state your problem correctly
[01:25] <Bizzeh> hey, when i have 3 partitions on my disk already, 0=windows, 1=blank ext3, 2=linux swap, will ubuntu detect that and let me install to #1?
[01:25] <andy108> want to run a postfix server also
[01:26] <marky> how do i register chaps? so I can ask Ubotflus? question
[01:26] <Ng> onkarshinde: yes, you need to use rfcomm to bind to the dialup interface of the phone, then that creates a fake serial device you can use to access the phone and get connected
[01:26] <marky> ubotflu*
[01:26] <onkarshinde> Bizzeh: It should. In worst case you can manually select the ext3 partition.
[01:26] <kbrooks> marky, its a bot.
[01:26] <marky> i know
[01:26] <Bizzeh> thanks
[01:26] <onkarshinde> Ng: Ok. Thanks
[01:26] <Ng> onkarshinde: http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/blue-gprs.html has some details, you can probably skip the early bits because bluez is installed already
[01:26] <kbrooks> marky, there are no questions in the bot
[01:26] <kbrooks> only factoids
[01:26] <mwe> kbrooks: so I guess one should just keep the old version around and follow the wiki on how to get the new version running. like I did
[01:27] <sunshine82> im on breeezy how do i get .mpg files to play
[01:27] <marky> ubotflu tell kbrooks about register
[01:27] <kbrooks> marky: no
[01:27] <marky> that kinda thing
[01:27] <kbrooks> marky: you don't register with the bot
[01:27] <kbrooks> ...
[01:27] <marky> i know that
[01:27] <Bizzeh> ok, one last thing, if i install grub to mbr, how do i make winxp boot from it, since i cant chainload anymore cos ntldr is suposed to be in mbr
[01:27] <marky> where do i register i asked
[01:28] <kbrooks> marky, pms are disabled from unregistered users (freenode server).
[01:28] <kbrooks> marky: /msg nickserv help
[01:28] <marky> thanks
[01:28] <onkarshinde> sunshine82: install totem-xine package
[01:29] <HymnToLife> Bizzeh > ntdlr is NOT on mbr
[01:29] <redguy|work> does anyone know if the ubuntu kernel includes the evms patches?
[01:29] <andy108> you see at the the moment if you try to trace my isp it traces but times cos of the xp firewall others 4 on network have but with linux there got to be a way around it
[01:29] <HymnToLife> so grub wil just ask you whether you want to boot ubuntu or winblows
[01:29] <Mazoku> Bizzeh installer autodetect youre xp if not you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:30] <kbrooks> HymnToLife, say windows
[01:30] <kbrooks> not winblows
[01:30] <HymnToLife> why ?
[01:30] <kbrooks> cuz win32 dont blow :P
[01:30] <sunshine82> onkarshinde it is inatalled
[01:30] <HymnToLife> lol
[01:30] <samuli> fuck u
[01:30] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know the reason behind default repos (main and restricted) commented out in a clean install? I mean why should new user need to enable repos to get security updates?
[01:30] <Bizzeh> HymnToLife: because the software's name is windows
[01:30] <Bizzeh> not winblows
[01:30] <thoreauputic> samuli: watch it
[01:30] <Bizzeh> thats why
[01:30] <kbrooks> samuli, how dare you!
[01:30] <Myrtti> pffft.
[01:31] <onkarshinde> sunshine82: Are you sure it is mpg file? Did you try installing w32codecs?
[01:31] <marky> man
[01:31] <kbrooks> thoreauputic, thank you.
[01:31] <Bizzeh> get mplayer for all your video needs
[01:31] <Bizzeh> or VLC
[01:31] <thoreauputic> samuli: I'll remove that in a while - I expect you to behave
[01:31] <marky> marky is already registered? or did i succeed
[01:31] <dirkson> borup: Yup. Something is overwriting ~/.xsession every time I login. Changing the permissions, too.
[01:31] <HymnToLife> VLC rules
[01:32] <Bizzeh> so, if i install ubuntu on my hardware, to a second partition, it will detect winxp on my main partition and offer a boot option to both?
[01:32] <Renski> Has anyone ever used a external USB CD/RW drive with Ubuntu?
[01:32] <HymnToLife> Bizzeh > yes
[01:32] <Mazoku> Bizzeh yeaP
[01:32] <Bizzeh> very good
[01:32] <marky> bizzeh yes  , it will do a boot loader
[01:32] <csucsok> hi all
[01:32] <marky> i'm duel boot xp/ubuntu on a dell d600
[01:33] <Bizzeh> ok, ill check out ubuntu on real hardware then
[01:33] <Bizzeh> ohh, one last thing
[01:33] <Bizzeh> does ubuntu package the ati drivers for X
[01:33] <Bizzeh> ?
[01:33] <marky> yup
[01:33] <HymnToLife> yes, but they suck
[01:33] <HymnToLife> 3D aeleration is plain poor
[01:33] <marky> this had a radeon 9000m
[01:33] <Bizzeh> HymnToLife: so do the nvidia ones
[01:33] <marky> has*
[01:33] <onkarshinde> !tell Bizzeh about ati
[01:33] <sunshine82> onkarshinde i got w32 instaaled
[01:33] <redguy|work> !evms
[01:33] <ubotu> Wish i knew, redguy|work
[01:34] <Bizzeh> i just want to be able to measure my framerate in FPS instead of SPF
[01:34] <redguy|work> gr
[01:34] <onkarshinde> sunshine82: still enable to play?
[01:34] <marky> there's a better ati driver?
[01:34] <sci> quick question: can I share a swap partition between two ubuntu installations?
[01:34] <Bizzeh> there are unofficial ati drivers
[01:34] <onkarshinde> redguy|work: what are you searching?
[01:34] <HymnToLife> lol nice one Bizzeh :p
[01:34] <marky> sci why would you want 2 installations?
[01:34] <kbrooks> cool.
[01:35] <sci> marky: one for breezy and one for dapper
[01:35] <marky> sci whats dapper?
[01:35] <HymnToLife> sci > yes
[01:35] <redguy|work> onkarshinde: i want to know if I the stocku ubuntu kernel includes evms patches
[01:35] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[01:35] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[01:35] <csucsok> Can anybody tell me what can be the problem when my ubuntu can't reboot. I can halt it, But when I try to reboot, it says Restarting... and stops.
[01:35] <sci> HymnToLife: great, thatks
[01:35] <onkarshinde> sci: you should be able to do it automatically
[01:35] <Bizzeh> HymnToLife: no one ever gets what SPF means even when its in the same line as FPS
[01:35] <borup> sci: you you can
[01:35] <marky> i think i'm on 5.10
[01:35] <HymnToLife> lol
[01:36] <marky> not even awake yet
[01:36] <onkarshinde> redguy|work: But what is evms?
[01:36] <HymnToLife> !evms
[01:36] <ubotu> Not a clue, HymnToLife
[01:36] <Bizzeh> can i do a system recompile in ubuntu?
[01:36] <Kibou> ..
[01:36] <onkarshinde> redguy|work: AFAIK, EVMS is already there in breezy
[01:37] <onkarshinde> csucsok: is it a laptop?
[01:37] <ejofee> any nomachine's nx user here?
[01:37] <csucsok> onkarshinde: no It's a desktop computer with sis chipset
[01:37] <marky> ubuntu when straight on this d600
[01:37] <Mazoku> Bizzeh you can do what you want :P
[01:37] <marky> anyone else using a dell d600
[01:38] <onkarshinde> csucsok: May be it is some problem with acpi. Not sure though.
[01:38] <Bizzeh> getting an amd64 x2 4200 in a few days, im thinkin it would be worth doin a compile to get SSE/2/3 into X, the kernel and GCC
[01:38] <csucsok> onkarshinde : the precompiled kernel works good. but I compiled a new one
[01:38] <redguy|work> onkarshinde: evms is the Enterprise Volume Management System, a funky thing I want to try out
[01:38] <redguy|work> onkarshinde: where can I check which patches are applied to a kernel?
[01:39] <onkarshinde> redguy|work: I really don't know
[01:39] <aufsaufbremse> ls
[01:39] <HymnToLife> ubotu: evms is the Enterprise Volume Management System, a funky thing redguy wants to try out
[01:39] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[01:39] <HymnToLife> I suck
[01:39] <onkarshinde> csucsok: may be passing acpi=off as boot parameter to kernel will help. Check your existing kernel parameters.
[01:40] <csucsok> onkarshinde : My parameters are the same as the ubuntu's
[01:40] <csucsok> onkarshinde : the only difference is the version of kernel
[01:41] <Ng> redguy|work: install and inspect linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12
[01:42] <ejofee> any nomachine's nx user here?
[01:44] <csucsok> bye
[01:46] <onkarshinde> can anyoen tell me if vorbis streams converted from mpeg (normal vcd movies) take less space and have higher quality?
[01:46] <HymnToLife> less space than what ?
[01:46] <HymnToLife> mp3?
[01:46] <Chousuke> onkarshinde: it's not possible to improve quality.
[01:46] <redguy|work> Ng: thanks
[01:47] <Chousuke> well... actually it is.
[01:47] <Chousuke> but those are tricks.
[01:47] <onkarshinde> HymnToLife: No. I am talking about mpeg video and vorbis/theora
[01:47] <onkarshinde> Chousuke: what tricks?
[01:47] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, vorbis videos
[01:47] <Chousuke> onkarshinde: like filters.
[01:47] <Bizzeh> is ubuntu ok with wireless cards?
[01:47] <Chousuke> onkarshinde: don't ask me
[01:47] <CaptainMorgan> anybody know how to get scroll button working?
[01:47] <Bizzeh> spesificly the acx111
[01:48] <HymnToLife> I dunno, I never use it, I stick with my old good xvid
[01:48] <Chousuke> it is however possible to pack video. but it won't improve quality
 I dunno, I never use it, I stick with my old good xvid << i got a free licence from divx on their 10th aniversary give away
[01:48] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: I used a tool called ffmpeg2theora that worked well ( and yes, the files were smaller - not sure on quality)
[01:48] <Ng> onkarshinde: if you're converting from one compressed format to another you will lose quality
[01:49] <alp> thomhash: smaller than what?
[01:49] <Bizzeh> so i use that cos its a lil faster and has better options, and better quality to compression ratio
[01:49] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: http://www.v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> http://pastebin.com/463565
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> debmirror question: it says it's "Getting: dists/breezy/Contents-amd64.gz... ok" and I have --getcontents turned on, but yet the file isn't on my local mirror, anyone know why not?
[01:52] <nikola> hhh
[01:53] <senectus> does anyone here have any experiance with wordpress and php??
[01:53] <CaptainMorgan> php, somewhat
[01:54] <armine> C & C++ POWA !
[01:54] <Bizzeh> C/C++ rock as CGI, just not very manageable
[01:54] <senectus> CaptainMorgan, I want to change the background colour of the right hand panel here : www.modmeup.net how would that be done?
[01:54] <Bizzeh> php is easy to manage
[01:54] <_nano_> why is my firefox scrolling sluggish compared to windows ? the presence of only one or two mid sized images make the scrolling sluggish. I've inspiron 5100 (P4, 2.66Ghz, ati radeon 7500 ) and use fluxbox with ubuntu
[01:54] <armine> LoL
[01:54] <Weasel--> Ifyou are 1337, show me your gibson.
[01:54] <armine> I LOVE APPLICATION DEVELOPPING
[01:54] <armine> :D
[01:54] <armine> But c & c++ rocks
[01:55] <armine> And u now
[01:55] <mgcross> Hello all....tried the new nvidia drivers using the nvidia install script...don't like them as I can only get 1024x768 working...tried using the nvdia uninstall script and re-installing the synaptic nvidia module, but it complains that the glx module and the kernel module are differant versions....how do I nuke the 8776(?) kernel module so that I can go back to the synaptic version of the nvidia driver?
[01:55] <armine> who is in MOTUgames team ?
[01:55] <HymnToLife> Weasel-- > Gibson stinks
[01:56] <Bizzeh> i can make a c++ cgi binary do something in 1/10th of the time a php script does it, but, the php script uses about 1/10th of the lines of code
[01:56] <HymnToLife> ESP rules
[01:56] <mgcross> I like a nice dry Gibson (lol)
[01:56] <onkarshinde> the restricted formats page says that it may be actually illegal to play DVDs ins some countries.  So this has nothing to do with mpeg-2 being patented format, right? Is there any listing of countries where dvds are illegal?
[01:58] <senectus> CaptainMorgan Bizzeh, I want to change the background colour of the right hand panel here : www.modmeup.net how would that be done?
[01:58] <armine> Bizzeh : Yes, but with php is not possible that binary EXECUTABLE OFFLINE application programming
[01:58] <armine> and
[01:58] <Bizzeh> armine: yes it is
[01:58] <armine> Each person has his preferences
[01:58] <Bizzeh> i use php in windows for scripting all the time
[01:58] <armine> So
[01:58] <Bizzeh> it has a windows scripting host plug
[01:58] <Bizzeh> so
[01:58] <armine> Nice people
[01:59] <armine> ive to go
[01:59] <Bizzeh> its posible to exec php
[01:59] <armine> Bye everybooody
[01:59] <mgcross> anyone tell me how to nuke the nvidia kernel module put there by the Nvidia Official installer?
[01:59] <Bizzeh> onkarshinde: gimme a sec
[02:00] <CaptainMorgan> senectus use css - php is server side - I have no idea what your code says right now because php is invisible
[02:01] <Bizzeh> hmmn, used to have a link to it, cant find it now tho
[02:01] <mgcross> no one?
[02:01] <senectus> CaptainMorgan, css? Man I stopped learning web code back in early jsript days :-P I'm _so_ out of touch!
[02:02] <nathanj> i was mucking around with my spund mixer and now i have lost all sound any ideas how i can default it all?
[02:03] <Bizzeh> those little scripts that say "your using such an isp, runing such a os with such a browser, you are not anonymous on the intenret" ohh, its so hard to rdns the connecting ip and look at the useragent of the browser
[02:03] <mgcross> um, help?
[02:03] <CaptainMorgan> css is clean and efficient, not to mention versatile and has a higher probability of showing up in more browsers
[02:04] <Bizzeh> just connected to same site again, with ie6, with a little user agent mod, and, im not runing "SexOS 0.2" and browser "FireOneOff 1.0"
[02:05] <dooglus> Bizzeh: are you arguing with yourself?
[02:05] <Bizzeh> no, just ranting in general
[02:05] <Bizzeh> :)
[02:05] <Bizzeh> its over now
[02:05] <dooglus> it's
[02:05] <Bizzeh> this is irc
[02:05] <nathanj> any one help with the soind mixer deaults?
[02:05] <Bizzeh> people who argue over grammar to that extent, need to be shot
[02:05] <dooglus> that comma is misplaced.
[02:06] <Bizzeh> i will find you, and i will kill you
[02:06] <dooglus> it's punctuation by the way
[02:06] <ubuntu_> Hello,everyone!
[02:06] <ubuntu_> I am a new guy of ubuntu,who can help me?
[02:06] <Bizzeh> im english, im 20, i have lived in england for 20, of the past 20 years..
[02:07] <Bizzeh> i know english
[02:07] <senectus> what is the colour : #fff ???
[02:07] <Bizzeh> its just that this is irc
[02:07] <Bizzeh> so what does it matter
[02:07] <Bizzeh> senectus: white
[02:07] <CaptainMorgan> white or black?
[02:07] <Bizzeh> #000 is black
[02:07] <dooglus> black is #000
[02:07] <CaptainMorgan> aye
[02:07] <onkarshinde> ubuntu_: state problem
[02:07] <senectus> Bizzeh, so is #90a090 green?
[02:07] <Bizzeh> black is an absence of colour, white is a mixture of all
[02:07] <dooglus> senectus: greenish
[02:07] <Bizzeh> it has more green in it, so yes
[02:07] <nunod> hello, can anyone tellme if today's daily image is "runable" ? :)
[02:07] <ubuntu_> does anyone speak chinese/
[02:08] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get my damned scroll buttton to work?
[02:08] <nathanj> i was mucking around with my spund mixer and now i have lost all sound any ideas how i can default it all?
[02:08] <dooglus> ubuntu_: yes
[02:08] <Bizzeh> senectus: its 3 hexadecimal components fromed RRGGBB (red green blue).. ranging from 00 to ff (0 - 9 then a to f)
[02:08] <Bizzeh> the higher you get, the more like that colour it will be
[02:09] <borup> nunod: where did you find an image?
[02:09] <eth42> where can I set the udma state of my dvd-drive permanently?
[02:09] <dooglus> eth42: in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[02:09] <ubuntu_> good
[02:10] <senectus> Bizzeh, dooglus CaptainMorgan, sweet I figured it out.. thanks guys :-)
[02:10] <nunod> borup, usual place: http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/
[02:10] <Bizzeh> i hate designing, thats why i only ever come up with simple crap like
[02:10] <Bizzeh> http://www.killallthehumans.co.uk/
[02:10] <borup> nunod: duh - thanks
[02:10] <eth42> dooglus, thanks
[02:13] <nunod> borup, are you going to try it? :)
[02:14] <TenPlus1> Hi folks... can someone help me with a wireless problem ???
[02:14] <TenPlus1> Q,) I have a LinkSYS wifi card installed and Ubuntu see's it ok, it's setup ok but I cant seem to activate it
[02:14] <borup> nunod: sure - but not untill I go home
[02:15] <alynx> anyone playing Wow with wine and Gainward Gforce 6600 GT Power pack 128 MB ? i use the 7667 drivers , and it laggs FPS:10-40
[02:15] <andy108> hello can you tell me which IP address I came from
[02:15] <alynx> ip andy108
[02:15] <andy108> ok no a number then
[02:15] <dholbach> andy108: <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:16] <bulio> does this mean ubuntu has upgraded to 5.10?
[02:16] <bulio> http://pastebin.com/463326
[02:17] <andy108> ok thanks I trying to set up a remote login for my box but I am on a unencrypted wireless network with 2 others useing XP and the IP addess you have given will trace but time's out cos of a firewall
[02:18] <eth42> is there a way to prevent arts from using the dsp device and use esd instead (I always don't get any more sound in Gnome after starting a KDE program)
[02:18] <TenPlus1> Q,) I have a LinkSYS wifi card installed and Ubuntu see's it ok, it's setup ok but I cant seem to activate it, any ideas ???
[02:18] <gnomefreak> bulio, no you did not upgrade
[02:18] <Sleepwalker> hey :)
[02:18] <gnomefreak> did you read the guide ubotu gave you the other day?
[02:19] <bulio> didn't think so
[02:19] <gnomefreak> gm Sleepwalker
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bulio  about upgrade
[02:20] <Sleepwalker> i wanna mount a ext3 partition in linux,that i can read and write on it but i dont know bout the rest... This is where i am right now : /dev/hda5	/home/Linux	ext3
[02:20] <bulio> I did that
[02:20] <bulio> it was installin last night
[02:21] <Sleepwalker> and i have to do that in fstab is that correct ??
[02:21] <bulio> my sources.list is edited
[02:21] <gnomefreak> bulio, if you did the very first part of it you should not have gotten those errors
[02:22] <redvelvet> I installed my wireless last night and it was working fine.  now it wont work.  I used the windows to linux driver converting tool.  any suggestions no getting my netgear wg511u working?
[02:22] <bulio> apt-get base-install?
[02:22] <bulio> could have sworn I did that
[02:22] <bulio> cap
[02:22] <bulio> no I did for hoary
[02:22] <bulio> thanks
[02:22] <TenPlus1> redvelvet: dude, I have the same problem, can get my card to turn itself ON...
[02:22] <ejofee> any nomachine's nx user here?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> bulio, im not looking at it right now but it should say something along the lines of apt-get install ubuntu-base or ubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <redvelvet> tenplus1, that sounds like me.  its just got one light on?
[02:23] <bulio> both?
[02:23] <TenPlus1> redvelvet, : I dont even have a light flashing... Ubuntu see's the card but cannot turn it on for me to use
[02:24] <bulio> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop?
[02:24] <redvelvet> hmmm.  idk  I will have to tinker with it later.  I am late for work
[02:24] <gnomefreak> bulio, your not reading the wiki ubotu gave you
[02:24] <redvelvet> peace all
[02:24] <TenPlus1> can anyone help me reg. wireless cards ? and how to enable them ?
[02:24] <bulio> yes I am
[02:24] <WaterSevenUb> can someone point me to documentation on how to configure "Insert Video" in Openoffice Impress (using breezy)... if that's possible. ?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> bulio,  the first line of wiki tells you what to install
[02:24] <bulio> right at the top
[02:24] <bulio> pre upgrade
[02:24] <nathanj> anyone know how to reset teh sound mixer to default?
[02:25] <bulio> so sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[02:26] <bulio> ok
[02:26] <gnomefreak> bulio,  give me a min im trying to open it now
[02:26] <bulio> ok
[02:26] <bulio> because wiki code shows both
[02:26] <gnomefreak> bulio,  type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <gnomefreak> yes both
[02:27] <gnomefreak> just like i typed oit
[02:27] <gnomefreak> it-
[02:27] <gnomefreak> bulio, after that skip down to the part titled apt-get and do it that way its easier
[02:28] <St^Anger^19m> does ubuntu support IceWM?
[02:29] <_nano_> why is my firefox scrolling sluggish compared to windows ? the presence of only one or two mid sized images make the scrolling sluggish. I've inspiron 5100 (P4, 2.66Ghz, ati radeon 7500 ) and use fluxbox with ubuntu. For example http://buzz.blogger.com scrolls sluggishly compared to firefox in windows
[02:29] <bulio> I typed it in
[02:29] <bulio> can I PM you output gnome?
[02:30] <Hoxzer> like lol
[02:30] <Hoxzer> I followed that guide to get nxserver work :D
[02:30] <Hoxzer> now I can't get it even to run
[02:31] <bulio> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/463608
[02:31] <nathanj> atm looks like i have to reinstakl ubunut :(
[02:32] <Hoxzer> or client says it isn't running but it is
[02:33] <gnomefreak> bulio, first your sources list should be hoary still (not sure what they are now) second after you run that with hoary repos and you get that error let me know
[02:34] <bulio> k
[02:34] <bulio> atm sources is breezy
[02:34] <gnomefreak> bulio,  put them back as hoary
[02:34] <bulio> k
[02:35] <gnomefreak> than run apt-get update
[02:35] <gnomefreak> than run the install for those 2 items
[02:35] <Sleepwalker> how do i get a folder "linked" 2 the desktop ??
[02:35] <bulio> where can I get hoary's sources.list/
[02:36] <TenPlus1> Q,) I have a Linksys 54g wireless card installed and setup, but it wont activate... any ideas ???
[02:36] <HymnToLife> !repos
[02:36] <ubotu> I heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:36] <gnomefreak> bulio, just change the word breezy to hoary in the sources list
[02:36] <nathanj> anyone send ,e a default asound.default?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: ln -s /path/to/folder  ~/Desktop/linkname  I guess
[02:36] <HymnToLife> right you are thoreauputic
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: but you can drag a folder to your desktop and I think it links by default
[02:37] <zandaa> <_< is there a 64-bit version of MythTV?
[02:37] <nathanj> can someone send a me a default copy of /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[02:37] <Sleepwalker> thoreauputic is that just a link ?? k thought it was the whole folder ;)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> Sleepwalker,  to move a folder use the mv command
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: I think you'll find it's a link
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: hmm - not if you drag it, sorry
[02:39] <Sleepwalker> k
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: there is a way - hang on
[02:39] <bulio> gnomefrak: now I get this:
[02:39] <munzir> Hi sirs, I am running a webserver on which I installed mailman, and another mail server for all he mails @mydomains.com. Now the confirmation message of mailman need to be replied to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>which wouldn't go where mailman is installed (and had all the aliases) for sure. What am I missing please?
[02:39] <bulio> http://pastebin.com/463613
[02:39] <Sleepwalker>  gnomefreak what is the mv command (sorry noob)
[02:40] <bulio> move
[02:40] <bulio> mv = move command
[02:40] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: ctrl-shift drag
[02:40] <olicat> if i want to make a full backup of my whole system, whats the best way to do it?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: makes a link from the desktop to a folder in your home directory
[02:40] <gnomefreak> bulio,  you ran sudo apt-get update?
[02:41] <Sleepwalker> thoreauputic  worked fine thx !!!!!
[02:41] <bulio> no
[02:41] <bulio> whoops
[02:41] <thoreauputic> Sleepwalker: no worries :)
[02:41] <gnomefreak> after you change your sources.list you have to run sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <bulio> ok
[02:41] <St^Anger^19m> Can i use IceWM on Ubuntu?
[02:41] <bulio> then the other thing?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> yes lets see if apt-get update spits anything out first
[02:42] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: sure
[02:42] <bulio> it does
[02:42] <bulio> all the sources
[02:42] <gnomefreak> St^Anger^19m, i dont see why not i think its in the ubuntu sources
[02:42] <nathanj> where os the filesystem tree on the ubuntu install cd?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> !info icewm
[02:42] <ubotu> icewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.22-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 632 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB
[02:42] <xandeurus> If I have configured a mail server and I send a mail to aol.com, and they return me a message telling me that my ip is dinamyc and I have to change to static, what can I do to resolve the problem?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> bulio,  does what?
[02:42] <St^Anger^19m> gnomefreak: does IceWM fill you with applications like KDE and Gnome do?
[02:43] <bulio> gnomefreak: it got all the sources, as ususual
[02:43] <bulio> *usual
[02:43] <bulio> Get:24 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/restricted Sources [14B]
[02:43] <gnomefreak> bulio,  any errors?
[02:43] <bulio> etc.
[02:43] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: relay it through your ISP
[02:43] <nathanj> where os the filesystem tree on the ubuntu install cd?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> St^Anger^19m,  i dont use it sorry
[02:43] <bulio> none that I see
[02:43] <germancito> hello
[02:43] <bulio> trying the apt get install now
[02:43] <gnomefreak> ok bulio  now run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: icewm is very minimalist - you just get a window manager
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> thoreauputic: exactly what i want :D
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> thoreauputic: is there any other like it?
[02:44] <bulio> grr
[02:44] <bulio> http://pastebin.com/463620
[02:44] <gnomefreak> you want a light weight window mangaer with a menu use xfce :)
[02:44] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: lots - look at http://xwinman.org
[02:45] <germancito> anyone knows a really good python interpreter
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ok bulio  run sudo apt-get -f install
[02:45] <St^Anger^19m> thoreauputic: thanks :D
[02:45] <xandeurus> thomhash, you said that I have to call my ISP to reslve the problem, that problem couldnt be, in the file of configuration of the mail server?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: no worries :)
[02:45] <bulio> 1 sec
[02:45] <zandaa> is there a 64-bit version of MythTV?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: I didn't say "call" them - I said relay your mail through your ISP's mail server
[02:46] <CaptainMorgan> jezzum... there is just much available through synapitc
[02:46] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: most ISPs block mail from dynamic IPs
[02:47] <CaptainMorgan> sure, LInux can be frustrating at times.. but how else do you learn? but the real question why would anyone go back to Vindoze when there's all this free stuff
[02:47] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> bulio,  after running that command run the install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <St^Anger^19m> Whats the difference between a Window Manager, and a Desktop?
[02:47] <xandeurus> thomhash, how can I do that, because i can understand you
[02:47] <CaptainMorgan> Anger, you answered your own question
[02:47] <HymnToLife> CaptainMorgan > I read a fun story about thas
[02:47] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: Desktop = window manager + desktop
[02:48] <u|qos> CaptainMorgan: cause there are also good free apps for windows ... and many (not most) things are by far easier on m$.
[02:48] <St^Anger^19m> ok so wot does the desktop include?
[02:48] <xandeurus> thomhash, when you said  relay your mail through your ISP's mail server, what do you want say?
[02:48] <HymnToLife> It's fictional of course but it's the story of a guy who used Linux all his life and switches to Windows
[02:48] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: window managers don't include stuff like gnome-volume-manager, gnome-settings-daemon etc
[02:48] <St^Anger^19m> as in...whuy is XFCE a desktop....and IceWM a window manager?
[02:48] <St^Anger^19m> hmmm
[02:48] <u|qos> CaptainMorgan: and the most important reason ... there are more devices and hardware supported ...
[02:49] <CaptainMorgan> I assume that most here are techies are heart.. which is the reason for the strong lInux following.. maybe non-techies who have careers unrelated to technical prowess choose the easy way..
[02:49] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: Desktop Environments have extras - like the ones I mentioned
[02:49] <nathanj> anyoen able to send me a file from a default install?
[02:49] <St^Anger^19m> so if i want something snappy.....and minimilast
[02:49] <St^Anger^19m> wot do u suggest?
[02:49] <St^Anger^19m> xfce?
[02:49] <HymnToLife> !xubuntu
[02:49] <ubotu> I guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[02:49] <thoreauputic> CaptainMorgan: I was not  atechie until I discovered Linux (in fact I'm still not, really)
[02:49] <rosen> CaptainMorgan, it is not that much more difficult to install anymore... and with that many people who are willing to help out ....
[02:50] <St^Anger^19m> but the xubuntu-desktop already contains stuff i do not want :(
[02:50] <thoreauputic> St^Anger^19m: it depends - xfce4 is a nice desktop environment with some exras. icewm, fluxbox, windowmaker are smaller but require more configuration
[02:51] <xandeurus> thoreauputic, when you said  relay your mail through your ISP's mail server, what do you want say?
[02:51] <thoreauputic> *extras
[02:51] <quacker> CaptainMorgan, I choose Linux also because I'm broke and can't afford $600 just for an office suite, then more money for another 20 applications I'd have to license if I used Windows.
[02:51] <St^Anger^19m> quacker: u could have used OOo on windows...i guess u just dont want Windows :)
[02:52] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: it sounds like you are trying to send directly from an unauthorised machine: if you send via the ISP mail server the recipient sees the ,mail coming from a recognised source
[02:52] <quacker> St^Anger^19m, when I started -- they didn't have win32
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> oh ic
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> :)
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> then xubuntu it is :D
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> i like the idea
[02:52] <quacker> But St^Anger^19m that's only one example -- there are several things that windows does not even support
[02:52] <St^Anger^19m> installing it as server...and then doin wot the hell iwant
[02:53] <quacker> And Debian, etc.
[02:53] <St^Anger^19m> quacker: wot other examples?
[02:53] <xandeurus> thoreauputic, and I cant send mail to aol.com from my email wich I create for the company?, the only way is for the mail wich the company give me
[02:54] <quacker> I have a webcam and also an SLR digital cam that either donb't have windows drivers or inadequate file type support
[02:54] <St^Anger^19m> quacker: that's a bit odd
[02:54] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: erm - I don't quite follow - but I assume your mail server has to have an mx and be recognised as legitimate
[02:54] <St^Anger^19m> usually M$ try to have all the support required for this kind of stuff...
[02:54] <St^Anger^19m> bdw
[02:55] <quacker> St^Anger^19m, are you trolling for the Evil Empire in here?
[02:55] <quacker> pfft
[02:55] <St^Anger^19m> i read in Paul Thorret's website in wnindows...that on an AMD 3400+ with 2Gb ram its slow!! :)
[02:55] <xandeurus> thoreauputic, ok men, thanks
[02:55] <St^Anger^19m> ie the upcoming VIsta
[02:56] <St^Anger^19m> quacker: no i'm not trolling!! as if...i've been working hard with ubuntu and i got to like it
[02:56] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: I mean you can't just run a mail server without making it official and expect big ISPs to recognise it
[02:56] <quacker> And the Gartner groupis advising enterprise users not to upgrade for another 2-3 years
[02:56] <skora> hi, if i want to file a bug for a 'base' program, should i use bugzilla or malone ?
[02:56] <skora> I forget.
[02:56] <quacker> Heh -- they used to be in M$ back pocket, but they 'defected'.
[02:56] <ian_> Why does K3B not allow me to burn at full speed. My drive is 40x but I can only get 8x in k3B
[02:56] <thoreauputic> skora: for anything in main, bugzilla
[02:57] <xandeurus> thoreauputic, and how can I make my mail server official?
[02:57] <skora> thoreauputic, thanks.
[02:57] <Toma-> ian_: have you got dma enabled on the drive?
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> lol
[02:57] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: I've never doe it - but I believe you need an MX record - someone with more experience might know
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> i kept a dual boot for C# code and some games
[02:57] <thoreauputic> s/doe/done
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> but i rarelyp lay anymore
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> so its just some C#
[02:58] <ian_> Toma-, I havent enabled so I guess if its not enabled by default, it wont be.
[02:58] <xandeurus> thoreauputic, men thanks for your help
[02:58] <Toma-> ian_: i see... use a text editor to edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:58] <quacker> ian -- (if DMA is enabled and it's still slow) probably a crappy drivem, i/o controller slow/small bufferspace.  K3B is zealous about keeping the buffer full.  Also, all burners can only burn as fast as the quality of the media you are using.
[02:58] <Toma-> theres some documentation on howto within the file
[02:58] <thoreauputic> xandeurus:  you're welcome - sorry I couldn't give you more info: i suggest you google for it
[02:59] <thoreauputic> nunod: please turn your away script off
[02:59] <quacker> Some blanks are not designed to support higher burn rates -- the slowest are no-name brand CD+RW
[02:59] <xandeurus> thoreauputic, ok men, but your help was very good :)
[02:59] <thoreauputic> xandeurus: :)
[03:00] <quacker> Also, there are two basic ways to burn -- packet-writing and DOA/TOA
[03:01] <Toma-> u nearly done quacker :D
[03:01] <quacker> St^Anger^19m, did I mention that DVD playback looks much sharper under Linux than in 2K or even XP Media Center of Evil on this hardware?
[03:02] <quacker> (I have licenses up to 'Advanced' (hah!) Server 2003, but I only use them for customer support)
[03:03] <CaptainMorgan> anybody use Screem ?
[03:03] <CaptainMorgan> seems like a good program..
[03:03] <skora> i've used screem. good stuff.
[03:04] <skora> though its just a personal pref between that and bluefish
[03:04] <skora> bluefish suited me better
[03:05] <vinnie> Quick question, after installing the ati driver packages from breezy on my laptop, i can no longer choose the 1280x800 resolution... it now does 1280x700 something. Tried editing the conf files and running the config again but no luck
[03:05] <vinnie> Can any1 help?
[03:05] <rosen> is there an alternative for movie (all movie types) to Xine ? ... I'd like something where I can queue up multiple files ... and if it supported streaming and *.wmv + *.mpeg that wouldnt be too shabby either ;)
[03:06] <Toma-> rosen: mplayer
[03:06] <nunod> videolan
[03:06] <nunod> (vlc)
[03:07] <rosen> I'll check it out, thanks
[03:07] <bulio> http://pastebin.com/463620
[03:07] <bulio> so I ran sudo apt-get -f install
[03:07] <Toma-> np
[03:07] <bulio> now what?
[03:07] <theD3viL> does new totem in backports works well ?
[03:08] <bulio> what is wrong here:?
[03:08] <Toma-> bulio: what does your sources.list look like?
[03:09] <St^Anger^19m> quacker: wot hardware?
[03:09] <St^Anger^19m> (sorry i was eating apple pie) :)
[03:09] <bulio> http://pastebin.com/463656
[03:09] <bulio> thats my problem
[03:09] <rosen> oh yeah.. by the way, I tried to apg-get libdivx4linux but it doesnt seem to exist anymore.. is there a replacement for this ?
[03:10] <bulio> anyone?
[03:10] <Toma-> rosen: apt-cache search divx
[03:10] <bulio> Toma: what should I do?
[03:10] <bulio> btw, sources.list points to hoary
[03:10] <Toma-> bulio: youre root, AND using sudo? why? paste me your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <spine_> does anyone know of repos with security auditing and things like cvs cadega and such?
[03:11] <Toma-> bulio: and youre using hoary?
[03:11] <spine_> breesy
[03:11] <spine_> breezy
[03:11] <bulio> hoary
[03:11] <bulio> I wanna go to breezy
[03:11] <Toma-> spine_: google would be youre best option
[03:11] <Toma-> bulio: ahhh.
[03:11] <spine_> tried that.
[03:11] <bulio> but I gotta apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:12] <spine_> i dont really grasp the concept of repos much, im still rather noobish
[03:12] <Toma-> bulio: http://www.noapparentmotive.org/topics/upgradingtobreezy.html
[03:12] <Toma-> tried following that?
[03:12] <spine_> me?
[03:12] <Toma-> spine_: see your name at the start? :)
[03:12] <zandaa> hey everyone, how do I set up a mysql server?? (not for webserver use)
[03:12] <ian_> is mpeg-2 the same as .avi?
[03:12] <rosen> Toma-, ah it's called avifile-divx-plugin now ;)
[03:12] <Toma-> spine_: you want snort and such?
[03:13] <spine_> lol, this stomach flu is got my head up my ass srry
[03:13] <zandaa> ian_, no it is not if I'm correct
[03:13] <Toma-> ian_: no.
[03:13] <gnomefreak> bulio,  did the apt-get -f install help?
[03:13] <ian_> is .avi any kind of mpeg?
[03:13] <zandaa> ian_, no it isn't
[03:13] <Toma-> ian_: no.
[03:13] <Toma-> ian_: its more related to mp3
[03:13] <bulio> no it didn't help
[03:13] <Toma-> if anything
[03:13] <ian_> ok thanks guys,
[03:14] <zandaa> Toma-, mp3 is mpeg layer 3 audio <_<
[03:14] <hartsantler> hi, is anybody having wifi troubles in ubuntu, i can't seem to get my to fully work, it only can seem to resolve a host name once, and then after it just fails.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> still getting the dependency issues? or something else?
[03:14] <Toma-> zandaa: alot of avis use mp3 for audio
[03:14] <zandaa> hartsantler, what kinda WiFi card you have?
[03:14] <zandaa> Toma- ah ok
[03:14] <Toma-> ;)
[03:14] <hartsantler> NEC wifi
[03:14] <spine_> hartsantler: are you using a linux supported wi-fi card?
[03:14] <Toma-> spine_: what security tools did you want?
[03:15] <bulio> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/463656
[03:15] <Tiorione> Salve
[03:15] <hartsantler> it has worked in the past, at the public library there is no problem with the wifi, but when i boot at work and use their dhcp it does not work (only resolves once and then fails)
[03:16] <Tiorione> Qialcuno parla l'italiano qui?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> bulio,  try this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[03:16] <bulio> gnomefrak: any idea what the problem might be?
[03:16] <spine_> just a good collection of them, say allot of the ones in WHAX
[03:16] <bulio> alright
[03:16] <gnomefreak> bulio,  i have a few
[03:16] <ian_> Toma-, No any good avi to mpeg convertors?
[03:16] <Toma-> ian_: yes...
[03:16] <St^Anger^19m> !icewm
[03:16] <ubotu> St^Anger^19m: No idea
[03:16] <Toma-> ian_: avidemux is my favorite
[03:17] <gnomefreak> bulio,  also while your at it paste your sources list in pastebin please
[03:17] <`Wraith`> Good morning
[03:17] <hartsantler> ian_ yes avidemux is the best
[03:17] <Toma-> ian_: also, try looking up transcode and its GUI apps
[03:17] <spine_> hartsantler: srry cant help yu with that, thought you might be using ndiswrapper or something of that craft
[03:17] <Tiorione> Some one speack italian or spanish?
[03:17] <ian_> ok thanks again.
[03:17] <skora> !it
[03:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:17] <`Wraith`> Can anyone tell me the default root password?
[03:17] <skora> !sp
[03:17] <ubotu> skora: I give up, what is it?
[03:17] <skora> !es
[03:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:17] <spine_> spanish here
[03:18] <theD3viL> what i need to install for watching movies (short) on internet?
[03:18] <theD3viL> with mozilla
[03:18] <skora> theD3viL, is it quicktime
[03:18] <Tiorione> GRAZIE
[03:18] <theD3viL> skora, yes
[03:18] <skora> !codecs
[03:18] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:18] <bulio> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/463671
[03:18] <bulio> the bottom is sources.list
[03:18] <`Wraith`> My son and I are using Ubuntu to get familiar with Linux, and we need the root password for some changes to the config
[03:18] <skora> wraith:
[03:18] <spine_> you need to set it
[03:18] <skora> it's set up when you installed ubuntu
[03:19] <spine_> $sudo passwd
[03:19] <skora> you can choose it to be whatever you'd like
[03:19] <spine_> $ sudo passwd
[03:19] <linuxgeek2> `Wraith`, sudo root passwd
[03:19] <spine_> or just passwd, i cant really remember right now, besides im on windoze at the moment
[03:19] <`Wraith`> hmmm... it asked him to set an account, which he did, but he could not remember it asking him to set the root password. Thanks!
[03:19] <BlueDevil> `Wraith`: sudo passwd root
[03:20] <spine_> no problem man
[03:20] <St^Anger^19m> !xubuntu
[03:20] <ubotu> xubuntu is probably Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:20] <bulio> gnomefreak: does it look ok?
[03:20] <`Wraith`> Got it, thanks! we will do that tonight after school/work
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ok bulio  open synaptic and first click i think its edit your looking for "fix broken packages" and fix them t
[03:20] <theD3viL> skora, i dont need source.list i need program
[03:20] <Toma-> spine_: if you want security tools, there should be plenty of them out there in .deb format that you can (usually) seamlessly install in ubuntu
[03:21] <`Wraith`> Take care!
[03:21] <bulio> ok
[03:21] <bulio> gnomefreak: I clicked fix broken packages
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ok did it say anything?
[03:22] <bulio> nope
[03:22] <bulio> I just clicked ix broken packages
[03:22] <bulio> didn't select anyhting
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ok close it and run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop again
[03:22] <ian_> Toma-, Is avidemux in the ubuntu repos?
[03:23] <bulio> still doesn't work
[03:23] <zandaa> is there something like Mp3Kult for Gnome??? (Mp3Kult is a MP3 management system for KDE using MySQL)
[03:23] <Toma-> ian_: yep
[03:23] <ian_> hmm
[03:24] <skora> theD3viL, a program to view them in ?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> bulio,  the libs that are unmet one at a time try to apt-get install them let me know what happens
[03:24] <theD3viL> skora, yes
[03:24] <eth42> when I plug in my usb memory stick, two devices will be mounted automatically -- sda and sda1. sda shows only garbage, while sda1 contains the actual partition. why is sda mounted at all?
[03:24] <Toma-> ian_: actually, it isnt
[03:24] <St^Anger^19m> thank god for this distro...its the one which made me give linux more than 1,2,3 tries...and now i'm learning a lottttt
[03:24] <linuxgeek2> !upgrade
[03:24] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:24] <ian_> Toma-, ah ok, I've just downloaded the source anyway.
[03:24] <Ng> eth42: that sounds like a bug, or perhaps an error in the partition table on the stick
[03:25] <Toma-> ian_: make sure you dont use "make install" and use "checkinstall" instead! ;)
[03:25] <skora> theD3viL, oh sry. there's mplayer, xine, totem
[03:25] <skora> personal pref.
[03:25] <skora> or VLC
[03:25] <ian_> Toma-, You seem pretty knowledgeable about this stuff, any recommendations for a DVD menu builder?
[03:25] <eth42> Ng: fdisk -l just lists the partition and doesn't complain. so perhaps it is a bug. has anyone else experienced it?
[03:26] <bulio> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/463677
[03:26] <meuserj|work> ian_, dvdstyler
[03:26] <Toma-> ian_: qdvdauthor
[03:26] <theD3viL> skora, what do you mean i want to? ;) ... hm...totem dont works ill install mplayer
[03:26] <Ng> eth42: I haven't heard of that happening - perhaps you could file a bug with ubuntu agains the gnome-volume-manager package?
[03:26] <Toma-> its the bomb. made my aunty&uncles wedding dvd with it :)
[03:27] <ondra> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[03:27] <skora> theD3viL, there's a few diff pkg's of it. just probably need the standard mplayer one
[03:27] <gnomefreak> ok bulio  go into your sources list and change all hoary to breezy than sudo apt-get update
[03:27] <eth42> Ng: ok. so it is gnome-volume-manager who does the automount?
[03:28] <theD3viL> skora, i now what i need...ive just think that totem must work
[03:28] <Ng> eth42: ish, it's actually pmount that does the mounting, but gnome-volume-manager controls the whole affair
[03:28] <tear> I got a quite serious bad problem... It sais I have no space left on /
[03:28] <eth42> Ng: thanks!
[03:28] <tear> thing is, it auto fills, if I remove a file it doesn't free space
[03:28] <theD3viL> skora, and yeah...realplayer in repos dont work
[03:28] <skora> theD3viL, im confused on what you're having a problem with now :/
[03:28] <Toma-> tear: clear all your logs?
[03:28] <hmpedersen> I give up.. I can't get any help in #kubuntu
[03:28] <bulio> gnomefreak: sudo apt-get update done
[03:29] <hmpedersen> Anyone here can help me with 2 simple problems?
[03:29] <theD3viL> skora, realplayer dont works in repo..only that :)
[03:29] <germancito> #gnome
[03:29] <germancito> sorry
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ok bulio  not run apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:29] <bulio> gnow?
[03:29] <skora> what's wrong with it exactly ?
[03:29] <bulio> *now
[03:30] <gnomefreak> yes now
[03:30] <bulio> gnomefreak: now run it?
[03:30] <Toma-> hmpedersen: nobody knows yet.
[03:30] <tear> Toma-: clearing anything won't help, it won't free space, it's always 0, this happened while working with progranning a program that makes a file, but the file isn't made either so I can't see how that would fill anything, and still, why wouldn't deleting a 200MB file clear any free space?
[03:30] <bulio> its getting stuff noew
[03:30] <skora> install probs, probs during actual playback, etc.
[03:30] <bulio> *now
[03:30] <Toma-> tear: could still be sitting in the ram..
[03:30] <gnomefreak> bulio,  did it do that the first time?
[03:31] <Toma-> tear: try ask in #linux
[03:31] <bulio> no, I followed the guide
[03:31] <meuserj|work> tear, what filesystem is it?
[03:31] <hmpedersen> sry Toma, my attention was hijacked by gaim.. First, the only language im able to get in kde is english (i want danish).. Second, im unable to find out how to make gaim and gmail-notifier run at logon..
[03:31] <_jason> is it possible for me to login to gnome and fluxbox at the same time somehow?
[03:31] <bulio> bbl soon
[03:31] <bulio> I'll let you know when it is done
[03:31] <gnomefreak> ok
[03:31] <tear> meuserj|work: ext3
[03:31] <tear> Toma-: any quickguide to how, and I'm in concole mode mo no links please
[03:31] <Toma-> hmpedersen: to get them to run at startup, make a link of the programs to ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:31] <iustin> please someone know an easy to use, graphical program for backing up my ubuntu partition? or at least saving my settings (desktop, firefox) ??
[03:32] <Toma-> tear: ive got no idea sorry
[03:32] <meuserj|work> iustin, install sbackup
[03:32] <tear> Toma-:  OK, thanks anyway
[03:32] <iustin> thanx... i will try it now, meuserj|work
[03:33] <tear> meuserj|work: any ideas?
[03:34] <hmpedersen> toma, thanx..
[03:34] <Toma-> no prob... as for the locale settings...
[03:34] <hmpedersen> toma, u know how to find the languages for kde too? Ive searched trough just abou...
[03:34] <hmpedersen> toma, wasnt supposed to press enter there..
[03:35] <Toma-> iirc, click K> Control Centre>Regional settings
[03:35] <hmpedersen> darn enter.. too close to backspace..
[03:35] <TokenBad> ok folks..lets see...I installed my printer through cups...a epson stylus 740 color.   used the recommended driver that cups says...printer gets alll set up..and I clean the nozzles cause I have brand new cartridges that I put in...then I try to print a test page....and the printer will do one of two things..it will either go through the printer proccess...but then have nohing on the printer paper or it will just sit there and not print at all...any id
[03:35] <TokenBad> eas?
[03:35] <hmpedersen> toma, yeah.. only language available is english.. Cant get it to install danish
[03:35] <TokenBad> hmm..it broke it up on it..
[03:36] <meuserj|work> tear, not off the top of my head
[03:36] <Toma-> hmpedersen: try 'apt-get install kde-i18n-da'
[03:36] <tear> meuserj|work: OK, I'll think a bit about it
[03:36] <Toma-> hmpedersen: then restart kde and check if its there again
[03:36] <hmpedersen> toma, hmm.. all of a sudden, after my many attempts, it has installed danish..
[03:37] <Toma-> ;P
[03:37] <hmpedersen> Ill just restart kde.. brb
[03:38] <iustin> meuserj|work, i clicked back-up in sbackup configuration and now it tells me it run in backround... what does this prog do now?
[03:39] <iustin> meuserj|work, i am worried cause i have very little space on this partition
[03:40] <meuserj|work> well.. it's backing up all settings in /etc, your home directory (execpt for media files like movies and music), and /var (except for temporary files) to /var/backup
[03:42] <hmpedersen> okay.., how many xchat have i running now?
[03:42] <meuserj|work> iustin, it also excludes files over 100 MB
[03:42] <gnomefreak> 1?
[03:42] <bulio> 11 minutes until it is done the download
[03:43] <meuserj|work> iustin, so it shouldn't take up too much room
[03:43] <iustin> yes ... it stopped
[03:43] <gnomefreak> bulio,  after its done if no errors reboot into the new kernel sould be 2.6.12-10 i think is the newest one for breezy
[03:44] <Toma-> hmpedersen: what?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> should even
[03:44] <iustin> finally i want to save my ubuntu and applications configurations and then e-mail them , format everything and reinstall on all of  my hda
[03:44] <hmpedersen> toma, seems i have 5 gmail notifiers and 5 gaim running now.. 2 i can see, the rest are in background..
[03:44] <Toma-> iustin: just make a big tarball of home
[03:44] <bulio> gnomefreak:what do I do once iyts done downloading?
[03:44] <iustin> just that?
[03:44] <meuserj|work> iustin, ok.. then tar up your /var/backup directory
[03:45] <Toma-> hmpedersen: oic. youve got it to save the session on log out right?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> bulio,  read above i just told you sir/maam
[03:45] <bulio> ok, thanks
[03:45] <veronique> hello
[03:45] <iustin> it does save also my progs configuration (like firefox) ?
[03:45] <hmpedersen> toma, no.. well.. in gnome i set it to never save session.. But havent found that in kde yet.. didnt tell it to save..
[03:45] <meuserj|work> iustin, yes
[03:45] <iustin> thanks so much
[03:45] <Toma-> hmpedersen: hang on, ill log into kde :0
[03:45] <iustin> i will try to tar my /var/backup
[03:45] <Toma-> :)
[03:45] <veronique> hello
[03:46] <hmpedersen> toma, thanx
[03:46] <veronique> hello
[03:47] <gnomefreak> whats a good 2D app to look  into space :( i dont know how to word it lol sorry
[03:47] <Subhuman> hi, ive been running desktop ubuntu on a second box, but i want to use this as a server. worth reinstalling as ubuntu server? or what are the differences? as i have apache ssh and ftp on this machine anyway
[03:47] <St^Anger^19m> the installer keeps asking me to enter my name and passwords
[03:47] <St^Anger^19m> over and over
[03:47] <Toma-> i like kde :( i miss it
[03:47] <spine_> 2d space map? google:
[03:47] <gnomefreak> a gnome version of kstars :)
[03:47] <spine_> Gstars?
[03:47] <iustin> meuserj|work, i`m a newbie but i wanna learn :)) ! can u plz paste here the command line for tar my /var/backup
[03:48] <gnomefreak> didnt think there was a gstars but ill see
[03:48] <iustin> meuserj|work, sorry for annoying you!
[03:48] <Toma-> ok hmpedersen, open up system settings, user account, session manager and make sure it starts with an empty session
[03:48] <spine_> i think u tar ur home and move it to /backup buddy
[03:48] <hmpedersen> toma, yeah.. thanx.. i just found it a sec ago :)
[03:48] <gnomefreak> nope no gstars
[03:48] <Toma-> oic
[03:48] <meuserj|work> iustin, tar cjvf backups.tar.bz2 /var/backup
[03:49] <hmpedersen> I'm a lil slow..
[03:49] <hmpedersen> thanx :)
[03:49] <spine_> .
[03:50] <spine_> .
[03:50] <St^Anger^19m> why does the installer keep asking me for username and password?
[03:50] <LSD-25> where is the apt-get package list in ubuntu ?
[03:50] <Subhuman> ?
[03:51] <Subhuman> /etc/sources.list
[03:51] <LSD-25> that has a list of all the possible packages i can install?
[03:51] <Ng> LSD-25: synaptic can show you that easily
[03:51] <Subhuman> LSD-25, no sorry
[03:51] <Subhuman> /etc/apt/sources,list
[03:51] <Subhuman> is the list of repositries
[03:51] <Subhuman> but yeah
[03:51] <sadpanda> Hello. I'm trying to find a way to "ping" an IP address and a certain port (namely port 80 for HTTP), but I want to be able to use that port's protocol (ie, HTTP), so that I can retrieve any error codes. Ping uses ICMP and netcat uses basic TCP, so even though I can ping port 80, I can't get an error code. Any ideas?
[03:52] <LSD-25> NG i only installed console
[03:52] <Subhuman> system/admininstation/synaptic pakcager manager
[03:52] <Subhuman> oh LSD-25
[03:52] <Ng> LSD-25: aptitude then
[03:52] <LSD-25> its a server ;)
[03:52] <rem_> apt-cache search
[03:52] <LSD-25> thanks.
[03:52] <Subhuman> do "sudo apt-get search "string"
[03:52] <LSD-25> i'm used to FreeBSD and the ports collection
[03:52] <LSD-25> wanted to try something new.
[03:52] <Subhuman> hey LSD-25, wats fbsd like to install and admin?
[03:52] <bulio> 3 mins left :)
[03:53] <Subhuman> im thinking of checking out tonight.
[03:53] <LSD-25> i love FreeBSD
[03:53] <Ng> the freebsd install is quite simple
[03:53] <LSD-25> the 5.* and 4.11 are the most stable IMO
[03:53] <_nano_> Ng, what about hardware detection?
[03:53] <LSD-25> its great.
[03:53] <LSD-25> hardware detection on bsd.
[03:53] <Ng> _nano_: pass
[03:53] <LSD-25> fbsd at least.
[03:53] <Subhuman> itz lame, im having to shuffle my parititons about as it needs  a primary partitioon
[03:54] <LSD-25> Linux can read NFS right?
[03:54] <LSD-25> its been 4 years since i used linux.
[03:54] <meuserj|work> LSD-25, of course
[03:54] <Toma-> LSD-25: you mean ntfs?
[03:54] <LSD-25> no, NFS
[03:54] <LSD-25> FreeBSD file system
[03:54] <zandaa> how can I change the default application for MP3 files?
[03:54] <tear> can I reinstall ubuntu from the net without loosing my /home ?
[03:55] <zandaa> tear, you could always backup your /home first
[03:55] <LSD-25> tear you should always make /home a separate partition for those occasions
[03:55] <meuserj|work> LSD-25, you mean the Network FileSystem right?  RPC and all that?
[03:55] <Toma-> LSD-25: not networked file system?
[03:55] <LSD-25> yeah meepy
[03:55] <LSD-25> meuserj|work
[03:55] <rem_> dont format your /home at install ...
[03:55] <meepy> what's up?
[03:55] <zandaa> how can I change the default application for MP3 files?
[03:55] <LSD-25> meepy i didn't mean to put in your nick ;) was trying to get meuserj|work
[03:55] <bulio> extracting packages now
[03:56] <LSD-25> was too lazy to hit tab enough
[03:56] <bulio> how long does that take?
[03:56] <meepy> :)
[03:56] <bulio> when upgrading to breezy
[03:56] <LSD-25> Subhuman i just wanted a change, so i decided to go back to my roots with linux ;)
[03:57] <hmpedersen> Toma, thanx.. now its working as it should :)
[03:57] <LSD-25> Subhuman http://www.obliterates.us/uptime.JPG :) not a problem in the world when i did a shutdown after that.... ran like a champ
[03:57] <Toma-> hmpedersen: kewl :)
[03:57] <tear> well I will do that next time, but I doesn't save that much in /home ony thing is my programming, the rest I have mounted a partition for. anyhow, how do I backup the /home I'm in console mode, something scewed my / diskspace totaly
[03:57] <BlueDevil> does anyone have the same issue with kpdf as I do? see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5753
[03:58] <Penguin_> hello, Can I disable a usb port with putting it into the blacklist file of hotplug? (its a faulty usb port and I get errors of it every 15seconds, with stopping hotplug, the error messages dissapear to)
[03:58] <Penguin_> but I wanna keep hotplug :-)
[03:59] <dr_willis> Penguin_,  you mean a single port?
[03:59] <Penguin_> yes
[03:59] <dr_willis> Hmm... that would be interesting...
[03:59] <dr_willis> a single port out of the 4 or so  on the pc is bad eh?
[03:59] <Penguin_> I have googeled and searched but cant find a answer
[04:00] <Penguin_> yes, its from the build in cardreader
[04:00] <markive> Penguin, i'd open the box and disconect it
[04:00] <meuserj|work> Penguin_, not that I know of.. the only thing you can blacklist in hotplug is a driver.. and I assume that you still want to use the good ports
[04:00] <tear> how to I reinstall ubuntu without disc?
[04:00] <Penguin_> thats the problem, then I disable 4 ports at once
[04:01] <markive> penguin_ just cut the wires on the faulty one
[04:01] <Penguin_> ok gonna try that, thx :-)
[04:01] <markive> Penguin i'd wait for a second
[04:02] <markive> Penguin just incase any of these folks might have a software fix
[04:02] <LSD-25> how can i make apt-get get packages off the web instead of the cd?
[04:02] <trappist> !tell LSD-25 about repos
[04:03] <Dido-> Hello! I've set up lan network between me and Xp but when I try to connect to the other pc it requests some password and didn't specify one.. what should I do...?
[04:03] <dashinho> How can I use php on the commandlines as scripts? like: $ php myscript.php... when I try that It can't find php...
[04:03] <zandaa> Dido- tried leaving it empty?
[04:03] <markive> Dido leave it empty
[04:03] <Dido-> zandaa, yes
[04:03] <zandaa> Dido- weird
[04:03] <Dido-> i've tried, doesnt work
[04:03] <trappist> dashinho: sudo apt-get install php4-cli and the command is php4
[04:03] <markive> have you got guest account ennabled in xp?
[04:03] <Toma-> damn, just found a command to help tear :(
[04:03] <LSD-25> trappist i'm using console . . .
[04:04] <LSD-25> no gui
[04:04] <Penguin_> ok I'm still here :)
[04:04] <gnomefreak> LSD-25, comment out the cdrom repo should be first one in sources list
[04:04] <trappist> LSD-25: add some repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cd repository
[04:04] <hmpedersen> back
[04:04] <Penguin_> gonna ask on the forums to :-)
[04:04] <markive> penguin good idea
[04:04] <LSD-25> "-P
[04:05] <LSD-25> thanks
[04:05] <Dido-> zandaa, and the xp doesn't allow the leave it empty
[04:05] <Dido-> ..
[04:05] <markive> penguin thats a hardware problem really
[04:05] <Penguin_> I dont wanna break the whole thing for just an error message :p
[04:05] <markive> there must be a way of stoping it
[04:05] <Dido-> zandaa, any idea how to specify password so i'm sure i'm entering it correct
[04:05] <Penguin_> yup, but the weird thiong is that sometimes with a cold boot it works again
[04:05] <markive> maybe a loose wire
[04:06] <Penguin_> if I boot into windows its totally screwed up again
[04:06] <LSD-25> how come when i "sudo apt-get search gcc" i get the error "E: Invalid operation search"
[04:06] <Penguin_> I think windows does something really freaky with it :-)
[04:06] <markive> i'd unsolder the busted one or just cut if free
[04:06] <trappist> LSD-25: apt-cache search
[04:06] <meuserj|work> LSD-25, apt-cache search gcc
[04:06] <Penguin_> ok :-)
[04:06] <LSD-25> thanks
[04:06] <meuserj|work> LSD-25, he gave you the wrong command
[04:07] <hmpedersen> bbl
[04:07] <meuserj|work> LSD-25, quick tip... if you source /etc/apt/bash_completion, you can bash complete package names
[04:07] <dpupp> need some help with TVTIME... i dont have permision to make changes to it for some odd reason. it wont even read its own... removing it does not do anything to change when reinstalling.  owner is root, permission is 700 ...and i suck at changing permissions :( help please? .
[04:08] <markive> Anyone know how to put power preferences in the startup so the battery icon is on the taskbar please?
[04:08] <zandaa> Dido-, I don't have a clue about Win>Lin networking
[04:08] <markive> i do it
[04:08] <markive> i have 8 machines here networked
[04:08] <Dido-> zandaa, any idea how to specify password so i'm sure i'm entering it correct (here on ubuntu)
[04:08] <markive> 9 now i have this laptop
[04:08] <dpupp> when running TVtime i get: Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[04:08] <dpupp> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/ookami/.tvtime/tvtime.xml"
[04:09] <markive> i never seem to have a problem
[04:09] <dpupp> i/o permission denied.
[04:09] <markive> in ubuntu i just go to places>then network servers
[04:09] <Toma-> dpupp: have you run tvtime-configure yet?
[04:09] <gnomefreak> dpupp,  use sudo before the command
[04:10] <dpupp> toma- no i havent.
[04:10] <markive> how do u keep the battery monitor icon when i remboot chaps?
[04:10] <meuserj|work> dpupp, it sounds like you don't have permission to read .tvtime
[04:10] <meuserj|work> dpupp, try this
[04:10] <Toma-> im watching scrubs thru tvtime right now :D
[04:10] <markive> whats tvtime?
[04:10] <Toma-> tv app
[04:10] <dpupp> yeah the directory is locked .... permission 700
[04:10] <meuserj|work> dpupp, do you own the dir
[04:10] <meuserj|work> ?
[04:11] <markive> toma- is it any good?
[04:11] <Toma-> markive: the best.
[04:11] <meuserj|work> markive, it's great.. it's what I use too
[04:11] <Toma-> needs recording tho :(
[04:11] <markive> it has a list of servers inside it?
[04:11] <dpupp> meuserrj|work, what? ....
[04:11] <_nano_> could any one suggest a good blogging client for gnome that's compatible with Blogger. Gnome-blog-post doesn't seem to work properly with blogger
[04:11] <bur[n] er> dpupp: ls -l... does it say your username
[04:11] <Toma-> markive: gnomefreak: its for tv cards only :D
[04:12] <meuserj|work> dpupp, ls -ld .tvtime
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ahhhh
[04:12] <St^Anger^19m> help: why does setup keep asking for username and password when i install as server?
[04:12] <markive> now installing
[04:12] <dpupp> ookami@navi:~$ ls -l .tvtime
[04:12] <dpupp> ls: .tvtime: Permission denied
[04:12] <meuserj|work> dpupp, ls -ld .tvtime
[04:12] <bulio> almost done with installing packages
[04:12] <meuserj|work> dpupp, the d is important
[04:12] <Toma-> im off. cyas
[04:12] <dpupp> ookami@navi:~$ ls -ld .tvtime
[04:12] <dpupp> drwx------  2 root root 4096 2005-12-14 09:49 .tvtime
[04:13] <meuserj|work> dpupp, ok... do this
[04:13] <bur[n] er> dpupp: u can see it's owned by the user root and in the group root
[04:13] <dpupp> why is it owned by root if i installed it? :(
[04:13] <meuserj|work> sudo chown -R dpupp:dpupp .tvtime
[04:13] <meuserj|work> where dpupp is your username
[04:14] <meuserj|work> dpupp, you must have run it as root at some point
[04:14] <dpupp> sudo chown -R ookami:ookami .tvtime
[04:14] <dpupp> right?
[04:14] <meuserj|work> yeah
[04:14] <trappist> if you're ookami
[04:14] <St^Anger^19m> :(
[04:14] <dpupp> ok, yeah i install everything using sudo.... its the only way i have seen it to work. other wise, i get permission not allowe.d
[04:15] <dpupp> ok! there we go.
[04:15] <meuserj|work> dpupp, right.. but it shouldn't have written your .tvtime files as root unless you accidentally ran tvtime as root
[04:15] <meuserj|work> dpupp, great
[04:16] <dpupp> meuserj|work , thanks :)
[04:16] <trappist> actually I think there's something about tvtime... my .tvtime was root-owned too, and I don't think I ever even used it
[04:16] <dpupp> how does one run a program as root? other than sudo?id like to know so i can avoid that.
[04:16] <trappist> sudo is how it's done
[04:16] <dpupp> ok.
[04:16] <dpupp> takes note of the chown command. *
[04:17] <trappist> I really think it's a tvtime package issue, though
[04:17] <meuserj|work> dpupp, np
[04:17] <trappist> confirmed
[04:17] <kyncani> dpupp: get a root shell with sudo -i
[04:17] <meuserj|work> dpupp, you probably did it with sudo
[04:18] <trappist> I just installed tvtime and ran it once as myself, and I have a root-owned .tvtime in my homedir
[04:18] <trappist> he didn't.  or at least, he wouldn't have had to.
[04:18] <meuserj|work> trappist, really?  that's odd.... it must be suid root.
[04:18] <kairo> Ive on latitude d510 and touchpad dont work for 'click and select'. Look the documentation /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/readme.debian have a refer about kernel module config_mouse_ps2_synaptics. On Ubuntu Kernels this module is not pre-compiled. Possible error?
[04:18] <dpupp> great! now i get to figure out why its missing channels that are available when under windows :)
[04:18] <dpupp> bbl. got some docs to read. Thanks for the help.
[04:18] <trappist> meuserj|work: doesn't look to be.  it couldn't read its own .tvtime, anyway.
[04:19] <meuserj|work> trappist, very weird.....
[04:19] <Fast> i'm currently using gentoo on my desktops and frankly haven't got the time to set it up on my laptop, would ubuntu suit me?
[04:19] <meuserj|work> Fast, definately
[04:19] <Fast> i'm a big gnome fan too...
[04:19] <markive> just installed tvtime, click it in applications  , boom  , worked
[04:20] <meuserj|work> Fast, then ubuntu will definately suit you
[04:20] <St^Anger^19m> help: why does setup keep asking for username and password when i install as server?
[04:20] <trappist> markive: ls -ld ~/.tvtime
[04:20] <meuserj|work> Fast, and if you can handle portage, you can definately handle apt
[04:20] <markive> kairo i think so
[04:21] <trappist> St^Anger^19m: it's probably asking you for usernames and passwords for various apps
[04:21] <markive> trappist whats that?
[04:21] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, it must be getting stuck somewhere?  are you getting an error?
[04:21] <trappist> St^Anger^19m: which shouldn't be the same as the system account
[04:21] <St^Anger^19m> no
[04:21] <trappist> markive: I want to see if it's owned by root
[04:21] <VincentMX> hi
[04:21] <St^Anger^19m> it just keeps goin over it again
[04:21] <markive> ok
[04:21] <St^Anger^19m> no error msg
[04:21] <VincentMX> how come i can
[04:21] <trappist> St^Anger^19m: try a better password
[04:21] <VincentMX> Oops
[04:21] <kairo> markive: in the end of day I make a recompile kernel for a test. The ubuntu haves a doc for this compilation?
[04:21] <trappist> St^Anger^19m: just a guess
[04:21] <VincentMX> how come i can't play MP3?
[04:22] <trappist> !tell VincentMX about mp3
[04:22] <VincentMX> thnx
[04:22] <St^Anger^19m> hmm
[04:22] <St^Anger^19m> ye it's different passwords
[04:22] <St^Anger^19m> what an idiot :D
[04:22] <markive> whats the command?
[04:22] <trappist> St^Anger^19m: haha
[04:22] <trappist> markive: ls -ld ~/.tvtime
[04:23] <Poland> so can someone answer me a question
[04:23] <trappist> Poland: not until you ask it
[04:23] <MickMcMack> ~askprotocol
[04:23] <Corin_777> why is TOR blocked here?
[04:23] <MickMcMack> !askprotocol
[04:23] <trappist> Corin_777: too much abuse
[04:23] <ubotu> Wish i knew, MickMcMack
[04:23] <MickMcMack> GRrrrrrrrr.
[04:23] <Poland> can ubuntu work with an airport extreme card?
[04:24] <Corin_777> trappist, from who?
[04:24] <Corin_777> some people use it just for privacy....
[04:24] <trappist> Corin_777: tor users, I guess.  I'm sorta new here, but that's what the ops tell me.
[04:24] <Corin_777> ok
[04:24] <trappist> Corin_777: yeah and some people take advantage of the privacy to act like idiots
[04:24] <Corin_777> Ops, where are you?
[04:24] <Corin_777> Seveas?
[04:25] <Seveas> Corin_777, ?
[04:25] <Poland> because i really need wireless and ive read that ubuntu doesnt even support wireless?
[04:25] <Corin_777> why is tor blocked?
[04:25] <Poland> is that correct?
[04:25] <trappist> Poland: if you do lspci does it tell you what chipset the card uses?
[04:25] <Seveas> Corin_777, too much abuse
[04:25] <Poland> where do i do that/
[04:25] <LSD-25> what's up with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5754 ?
[04:25] <St^Anger^19m> trappist: no...its actually looping :(
[04:25] <Corin_777> Seveas, from who? how?
[04:25] <struggler> I allowed synaptic to upgrade apache2 to 2.0.53-5ubuntu5.4 and now apache dies with "apr_thread_create: unable to create worker thread".  whenever a connection is attempted, anybody help?
[04:25] <trappist> Poland: ubuntu has the best wireless support I've seen in any distro I've used
[04:25] <Seveas> Corin_777, from tor, in here, EOD
[04:25] <Poland> but with mac?
[04:26] <nickrud> !ask
[04:26] <Corin_777> EOD?  what do you mean "from tor"?  from tor users?
[04:26] <dooglus> Corin_777: "end of discussion"
[04:26] <trappist> Corin_777: EOD = End Of Discussion
[04:26] <Poland> 0000:00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 AGP
[04:26] <Poland> 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 5c63 [Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+]  (rev 01)
[04:26] <Poland> 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 PCI
[04:26] <Poland> 0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[04:26] <Poland> 0001:10:17.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid Mac I/O
[04:26] <Poland> 0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
[04:26] <Seveas> Corin_777, sigh, they are blocked and it's not going to change. POINT
[04:26] <Poland> 0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
[04:26] <trappist> ugh.
[04:26] <MickMcMack> Pwnt.
[04:26] <dooglus> Corin_777: lots of people come here to spam or flood.  if they use TOR you can't ban them, other than by banning all TOR users.
[04:27] <Corin_777> hmmmm
[04:27] <meuserj|work> LSD-25, dependency issue
[04:27] <Corin_777> seems unfair
[04:27] <markive> drwx------  2 marky marky 4096 2005-12-14 15:18 /home/marky/.tvtime
[04:27] <Corin_777> some of us use it for online privacy
[04:27] <trappist> Corin_777: complain to the abusers.
[04:27] <Seveas> Corin_777, just as unfair as flooding
[04:27] <arod--> i'm trying to stream live music using totem movie player. how can i download the correct codecs?
[04:27] <Seveas> live with it.
[04:27] <meuserj|work> LSD-25, just apt-get install perl
[04:27] <MickMcMack> What's TOR ?
[04:27] <MickMcMack> O_o;
[04:27] <dooglus> Corin_777: you can still use a server that isn't yours for IRCing
[04:27] <LSD-25> meuserj|work i've done that :-x
[04:27] <dooglus> Corin_777: just not a tor one
[04:27] <Seveas> get yourself an unaffiliated/cloak if you want 'privacy'
[04:28] <Seveas> MickMcMack, an abusers heaven
[04:28] <MickMcMack> Ah, Seveas, like AOL?
[04:28] <markive> arod get win32 codecs and use vlc or mplayer instead
[04:28] <MickMcMack> *chortle*
[04:28] <Seveas> MickMcMack, :)
[04:28] <dooglus> MickMcMack: tor is "the onion router" - it's like a bunch of proxy servers or some such
[04:29] <MickMcMack> Thanks dooglus. :)
[04:29] <Seveas> anyway, let's stop being horribly off-topic
[04:29] <jbroome> what if i run a tor node on ubuntu? :P
[04:29] <arod--> markive i only have totem and xmms
[04:29] <Corin_777> dooglus, where can i find details of other servers?
[04:29] <markive> arod , download vlc or mplayer
[04:30] <markive> totem is weak
[04:30] <jbroome> Corin_777: check out tor.eff.org for more info
[04:30] <arod--> ok im installing vlc now. i tried getting mplayer, it said i had it already. i dont see it though
[04:30] <Corin_777> jbroome, im not asking what tor is...  i was the one complaining that tor has been banned....  it was MickMcMack asking what it was...
[04:30] <Skoal> how do i do a big post?
[04:30] <markive> type it in run, see if it starts
[04:31] <Skoal> pastebin?
[04:31] <Seveas> Skoal, yup
[04:31] <hmpedersen> great.. finally skype learned to not kill all sound when i try to make a call..
[04:31] <jbroome> doh
[04:31] <Seveas> !tell Skoal about pastebin
[04:31] <Corin_777> dooglus, "you can still use a server that isn't yours for IRCing" - where can i find details of servers?
[04:31] <hmpedersen> instead now it refuses to call, saying problem with sound device :(
[04:31] <Skoal> ok i need to know if airport extreme cards work well with ubuntu
[04:31] <Seveas> Skoal, they don't. Blame apple/broadcom
[04:31] <trappist> Corin_777: I think he means get yourself a shell
[04:31] <Skoal> they dont at all?
[04:31] <arod--> markive vlc works perfect now. thanks
[04:32] <Corin_777> trappist, i think he means use a normal proxy...
[04:32] <Seveas> they don't work at al, stupid broadcom chip
[04:32] <markive> arod :) glad to be a help
[04:32] <Ng> I read the other day that someone reverse engineered the broadcom chip used in the apple airport extreme
[04:32] <Seveas> Ng, yeah, but that's still very unstable
[04:32] <Seveas> looks promising though
[04:33] <Ng> I picked up an Athereos based netgear the other day, worked perfectly out of the box :)
[04:33] <markive> i istill need to find out how I can keep the battery status icon in the taskbar , when i reboot it goes, have to run the app again
[04:33] <trappist> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[04:33] <Corin_777> brb
[04:33] <trappist> Ng: yeah atheros cards are great
[04:33] <Ng> markive: when you log out or tell it to reboot, tick the "Save current session" box, it should remember the settings
[04:34] <Seveas> atheros++
[04:34] <arod--> are there any sites I can read up on that have shortcut keys for ubuntu? like how to get to the applications menu for say without using the mouse
[04:34] <Seveas> especially if yoiu use the latest drivers (not the restricted-module ones)
[04:34] <markive> ahh... i seen that , why didn't i think of thagt
[04:34] <markive> ng nice one brb  , then
[04:34] <Ng> Seveas: I've been meaning to have a play with those - you mean madwifi-ng?
[04:34] <Seveas> arod--, <alt><f1>
[04:34] <Seveas> Ng, no simplt the latest madwifi
[04:34] <Ng> ah
[04:34] <theD3viL> where can i edit my services at startup?
[04:35] <Seveas> theD3viL, system -> admin -> services
[04:35] <arod--> Seveas so i guess it's alot of alt & f buttons? any actual documentation though?
[04:35] <theD3viL> Seveas, there are not all
[04:35] <Seveas> arod--, the gnome help should have them, system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts lists a lot (and you can change them there too)
[04:36] <theD3viL> Seveas, oh...yes there are all...what do anacron atd and cron?
[04:36] <arod--> Seveas thanks.
[04:37] <testmachine> hm
[04:37] <Ng> theD3viL: they are for running scheduled jobs - e.g. cron/anacron manage things like rotating logs, updating the database used by "locate", etc.
[04:37] <Ng> window 27
[04:37] <testmachine> i am thinking about testing suse 10.0
[04:37] <Ng> erk
[04:37] <Seveas> theD3viL: scheduling periodic jobs (you want them)
[04:37] <testmachine> tried suse a few years ago
[04:37] <St^Anger^19m> hey
[04:37] <testmachine> didnt like it
[04:38] <Seveas> testmachine -> #suse
[04:38] <St^Anger^19m> how can i set up users manually from command line?
[04:38] <St^Anger^19m> i have root
[04:38] <testmachine> Seveas: dont ask support
[04:38] <Ng> St^Anger^19m: adduser
[04:38] <St^Anger^19m> control
[04:38] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, sudo adduser $some_name
[04:38] <testmachine> Seveas: just talking shit
[04:38] <dpupp> can someone tell me what is this command for before i go running it? modprobe SAA7133
[04:38] <dpupp>  ?
[04:38] <Seveas> testmachine -> #ubuntu-offtopic then ;)
[04:38] <testmachine> hehehh
[04:38] <testmachine> does that chan exist?
[04:38] <meuserj|work> it inserts the SAA7133 driver
[04:38] <Seveas> dpupp, it loads the saa7133 kernel module
[04:39] <St^Anger^19m> Seveas: it says group some_name doesnt exist
[04:39] <St^Anger^19m> PS: username creation in install failed...so i skipped it
[04:40] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, don't actually use some_name....
[04:40] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, replace $some_name with the name you want...
[04:40] <St^Anger^19m> meuserj|work: that much i know :D
[04:40] <St^Anger^19m> Seveas: yes i did
[04:40] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, only put one name in, because if you put two in, it thinks you are adding a name to a group
[04:40] <St^Anger^19m> 1 name
[04:40] <meuserj|work> so you did "sudo adduser blah"
[04:40] <St^Anger^19m> i just did #sudo adduser $andrea
[04:40] <dpupp> ok. hmmm. ok i issued the command: modprobe saa7134 but i got no response or info... it just brings me back to the terminal prmopt.  there a way to make it verbose so i know whats going on?
[04:40] <theD3viL> Seveas, when i shutdowning computer there is stoping bluetooth service..and i dont know where dont start it
[04:41] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, don't put the dollar sign in.
[04:41] <Corin_777> Seveas, am I allowed this proxy?
[04:41] <St^Anger^19m> dont work
[04:41] <St^Anger^19m> :(
[04:41] <Seveas> Corin_777, if it isn't banned: yes :)
[04:41] <St^Anger^19m> chown was not permitted
[04:41] <serengeti> hello :)
[04:41] <St^Anger^19m> for /home/andrea
[04:42] <serengeti> i've a problem setting up irda on my thinkpad t42
[04:42] <serengeti> i installed irda-utils
[04:42] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, ok... so you are adding a user that already has a home directory.
[04:42] <St^Anger^19m> can i remove a use first?
[04:43] <St^Anger^19m> meuserj|work: yes...trouble is...the install never accepted the user..it kept asking me for it
[04:43] <serengeti> did  sudo modprobe irda irtty_sir sir_dev
[04:43] <meuserj|work> are you sure that the user doesn't exist?
[04:43] <meuserj|work> grep andrea /etc/passwd
[04:43] <serengeti> but irdadump shows nothing when I wave my siemens me45 in front of the irda port
[04:44] <Corin_777> :D
[04:44] <serengeti> any clues?
[04:44] <St^Anger^19m> meuserj|work: that returned notinh
[04:45] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, ls -ld /home/andrea
[04:45] <dpupp> how do i get detailed information of a TV card that i have installed?
[04:45] <Seveas> dpupp, lshal / lspci -n
[04:45] <St^Anger^19m> meuserj|work:  /home/andrea no such file or directory
[04:46] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, ls -ld /home
[04:46] <St^Anger^19m> btw...i tried to set up home as fat 32
[04:46] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, there's your problem
[04:46] <meuserj|work> you can't do that
[04:46] <St^Anger^19m> hmmm
[04:46] <St^Anger^19m> why?
[04:46] <St^Anger^19m> i need to transfer files
[04:46] <St^Anger^19m> from win to linux
[04:46] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, that's probably why it kept erroring in the install too
[04:46] <meuserj|work> you can't do that because you need more permission bits in your home directory than fat32 provides
[04:47] <Seveas> yes, /home on fat32 is a recipe for disaster
[04:47] <Seveas> the installer actually prevents that now
[04:47] <St^Anger^19m> Seveas: then the installer should stop it :(
[04:47] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, was it a hoary installer?
[04:47] <St^Anger^19m> i'm on 5.10
[04:47] <meuserj|work> St^Anger^19m, make a seperate partition for that
[04:47] <meuserj|work> dont' try to use your home
[04:47] <St^Anger^19m> okies
[04:47] <Seveas> the 5.10 stops it unless you override that
[04:47] <St^Anger^19m> :D
[04:47] <St^Anger^19m> i'll reinstall
[04:47] <St^Anger^19m> its only a server install anyway :D
[04:48] <St^Anger^19m> nothing like reformatting windows :D
[04:48] <St^Anger^19m> thanks :D
[04:48] <samppa> Do you think Ubuntu is suitable to server usage?
[04:48] <samppa> ubuntu-minimal
[04:48] <VincentMX> yes
[04:48] <testmachine> samppa: yes it is
[04:48] <Seveas> samppa, yes, I use it on quite a few servers
[04:48] <St^Anger^19m> yes iit is
[04:48] <testmachine> samppa: perfect
[04:48] <testmachine> for servers
[04:48] <samppa> okay :P
[04:48] <testmachine> i run an asterisk server
[04:48] <testmachine> on ubuntu
[04:48] <testmachine> voip
[04:49] <St^Anger^19m> but actually i want a minimilast system for xfce ;D
[04:49] <St^Anger^19m> hence my server install
[04:49] <remote_> what does ubuntu use for power management on laptops?
[04:49] <VincentMX> testmachine what is this asterisk thing?
[04:49] <samppa> I've used Debian as a server OS but my / hard disk was broken 2 weeks ago.
[04:49] <testmachine> VincentMX: its anPBX server
[04:49] <samppa> Today I will install some Unix to that box
[04:50] <VincentMX> can you use it to call to normal phones, testmachine?
[04:50] <St^Anger^19m> i'm learning linux with VMware
[04:50] <remote_> I am having difficulty charing my laptop batteries
[04:50] <St^Anger^19m> i hate rebooting
[04:51] <remote_> can anyone help me with this?
[04:53] <ernstp> anyone running Dapper can find the print option in Gimp?
[04:53] <HymnToLife> remote_ > I don't think it has anything to do with uuntu
[04:53] <Jowi> hello everyone. I have a strange mplayer output problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5755
[04:53] <remote_> I have two batteries in my Dell 8200 and one of them doesn't seem to be charging one of them
[04:53] <HymnToLife> Jowi > use VLC :p
[04:53] <olicat> when vi doesn't let me delete something with backspace, how do i enable it? at the moment i have to go to the start of a word and press delete
[04:54] <remote_> HymnToLife > I can't even see the battery monitor on my session right now, did I mess something up with acpi?
[04:54] <meuserj|work> olicat, is it nvi or vim?
[04:54] <Jowi> HymnToLife: probably not possible with freevo i'm afaid. that's the only reason i use mplayer. totem-xine work great for me
[04:54] <trappist> Jowi: have you tried other video output drivers?
[04:54] <HymnToLife> remote_ > install the gnome-poower-managaer package
[04:54] <Jowi> trappist: yep, xv x11 and sdl
[04:54] <ernstp> Dapper: open a picture in Gimp and try to find print in the menus
[04:55] <trappist> Jowi: oh, mplayer is messing up your mythtv?
[04:56] <meuserj|work> Jowi, it looks like a driver issue
[04:56] <Jowi> trappist: not mythtv. freevo. :) i included a screenshot in the pastebin
[04:56] <trappist> Jowi: yeah that's what I'm looking at
[04:56] <trappist> Jowi: have you tried another media player, like xine, to see if you get the same results?
[04:56] <meuserj|work> Jowi, what is the video card? and are you using tvout or vga/dvi?
[04:57] <Jowi> meuserj|work: yeah, most likely. only mplayer got the prob. xine, totem vlc are all good. never seen this prob before i tested mplayer.
[04:57] <meuserj|work> Jowi, that's odd
[04:57] <Jowi> meuserj|work: vga (to lcd) + svideo
[04:57] <Jowi> what make it stranger is that only tv-out is affected. the lcd colours are not touched
[04:58] <jordo23> Does anyone here have any experience with evolution and exchange?
[04:58] <zandaa> is there a 64-bit version of MythTV?
[04:58] <meuserj|work> Jowi, very weird... I have a similar setup and I've never seen anything like that....
[04:59] <meuserj|work> is it using xvideo?
[04:59] <meuserj|work> try different mplayer video out drivers and see if it turns out differently
[04:59] <Jowi> meuserj|work: yeah. no-one seem to know anything about it. its using xv in the screenshot but x11 and sdl is the same
[05:00] <tapH20guru> what do you guys know about doc.gwos.org? why another doc site? what about docs.ubuntu.com?
[05:00] <meuserj|work> Jowi, what's the video card?
[05:00] <Jowi> meuserj|work: via cle266 with dri
[05:00] <Skoal> so no way to airport extremes?
[05:00] <meuserj|work> I have no idea.....
[05:01] <DrBair> I need some newer dev libraries, does anyone know of a repository that would have newer libraries?
[05:01] <jbroome> doesn't sound like it
[05:01] <Jowi> meuserj|work: was afraid of that. thanks anyway :)
[05:01] <ratolesti> does anyone know where i can find irc-chat for mandrake-linux?
[05:01] <meuserj|work> Jowi, np
[05:01] <Skoal> does any other linux offer support for airport extremes?
[05:01] <meuserj|work> Skoal, nope.. no support for that anywhere
[05:01] <trappist> Jowi: does it happen with all media?
[05:02] <Skoal> can any other linux do it?
[05:02] <meuserj|work> Skoal, no
[05:02] <Skoal> f$ck
[05:02] <Skoal> ok...
[05:02] <Skoal> ok then.....i have another question
[05:02] <Jowi> trappist: yeah
[05:02] <napsy> hi. can i set the mplayer audio output to demuxer?
[05:02] <Jowi> trappist: tested with dvd, mpg and avi
[05:02] <meuserj|work> Skoal, it's one of the few pieces of hardware that there is absolutely no way to get to work in linux
[05:02] <Skoal> i have wireless in my house, with a total of 3 computers.....how could i make that work??
[05:03] <trappist> Jowi: have you seen http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=22&DSCat=29&DCatType=1
[05:03] <Khisanth> if one distro can support a piece of hardware so can others ..
[05:03] <Skoal> have a small hub and run the wire upstairs to my computer?
[05:03] <Xappe> Skoal: buy a usb wireless dongle
[05:03] <Skoal> dongle?
[05:03] <dpupp> is it possible to get more info than just: 0000:01:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 Audio+video broadcast decoder (rev 10)
[05:03] <Skoal> WTF?
[05:04] <Skoal> what is that
[05:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Skoal about wireless
[05:04] <czr> dpupp, lspci -vv
[05:05] <czr> dpupp, also lspci -n and use the pci-codes to find out more info using google
[05:05] <jbroome> Skoal: it is a wireless adapter that plugs into the USB port
[05:05] <jbroome> Skoal: or run an ethernet cable and use that
[05:05] <jbroome> ratolesti: i'm sure xchat is available
[05:05] <trappist> Jowi: or http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=102048
[05:06] <jbroome> ratolesti: have fun with urpmi
[05:06] <Xappe> hehe
[05:06] <dpupp> can i combine lspci -n -vv ?
[05:06] <thefish> how do I install a new kernel with apt-get?
[05:06] <Skoal> well what usb "dongle" would work with mac and still pick up the wireless signal?
[05:06] <Jowi> trappist: not until now. but it seems like it only enables hardware acceleration. i have no problem with cpu usage or choppy movies...
[05:07] <HymnToLife> thefish > when a new kernel will be available, you will get an update notice
[05:07] <trappist> Jowi: there's an mplayer patch for unichrome cards, somewhere in that second link
[05:07] <Xappe> Skoal: check the ubuntu wiki...there is a list of compatible hardware somewhere in there
[05:07] <nalioth> Skoal: ubotu sent you a PM with info
[05:07] <Skoal> yea i got it...
[05:08] <Skoal> what about usenet....and downloading .nzb files?
[05:08] <jbroome> also:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wireless+usb+linux+PPC&btnG
[05:08] <nalioth> Skoal: that will tell you what will work and what may not
[05:08] <Skoal> will that work
[05:08] <thefish> HymnToLife: thanks, and how do i actually install it then
[05:08] <HymnToLife> just the same way you update other packages
[05:08] <Jowi> trappist: yeah i saw it. patch seem to enable mpeg2/4 acceleration. that's it. unichrome's got no problems. made a custom kernel with via, drm, dri, cle266, xvmc and all. everything works flawless (except mplayer)
[05:09] <Jowi> trappist: ...and i use the via xorg driver and xvmc provided by ubuntu. works great.
[05:10] <thefish> god
[05:10] <thefish> what is the name of thing smart arse
[05:10] <thefish> wow i wish i was so clever
[05:10] <ratolesti> jbroome: yes yes i know
[05:11] <napsy> how can multiple programs access the sound card?
[05:11] <trappist> Jowi: try -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc
[05:11] <ratolesti> jbroome: but not my PC so have to do something here but not reinstall the system to ubuntu
[05:11] <ratolesti> jbroome: what id gladly like to do
[05:11] <napsy> or if i could select the audio device, which would it be in /dev ?
[05:11] <trappist> napsy: either get a sound card that does hardware mixing or use a sound server like esd
[05:12] <Seveas> !tell thefish about attitude
[05:12] <thegladiator> hi
[05:12] <Jowi> trappist: no picture only sound
[05:12] <ratolesti> so ... does anyone know the IRC server and channel for mandrake-linux???
[05:12] <trappist> lame.
[05:12] <thefish> Seveas: please read the thread mate
[05:12] <trappist> ratolesti: #mandriva
[05:12] <ratolesti> ok
[05:13] <trappist> ratolesti: right here on freenode.
[05:13] <ratolesti> ok
[05:13] <ratolesti> trappist: thx
[05:13] <thefish> a simple answer would have done, instead of an "i know the answer, and so should you thicko" approach
[05:13] <Jowi> trappist: got lame
[05:13] <trappist> Jowi: I meant the situation is lame :)
[05:14] <trappist> Jowi: I'm fresh out of ideas
[05:14] <trappist> Jowi: there's a pretty active #mplayer channel, have you looked there?
[05:14] <Jowi> haha, ok. thanks for the feedback trappist :)
[05:14] <Jowi> yeah, no one wanted to be bothered at mplayer. got no answers last night. will try again though
[05:15] <Minardi> hello y'all,
[05:15] <Minardi> I have a question. How can i configure the mouse, the scrolling doesn't work at the moment :(
[05:15] <Skoal> does anyone know of a wireless "dongle" that works out of the box with mac?
[05:15] <Minardi> hello y'all,
[05:15] <Minardi> I have a question. How can i configure the mouse, the scrolling doesn't work at the moment :(
[05:16] <Jowi> Minardi: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, add this in the mouse Section "InputDevice":         Option          "Protocol"              "ImPS/2"
[05:16] <Jowi>   <new line> Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[05:17] <bulio> I'm running breezy now!!!!!
[05:17] <Jowi> congrats bulio
[05:17] <bulio> whats the command to see what version you are running?
[05:17] <bulio> in term
[05:17] <Amaranth> bulio: lsb-release?
[05:18] <DonVincenzo> Is Kdevelop Designer working on your installation ? Mine crash when I launch it
[05:18] <meuserj|work> bulio,cat /etc/lsb-release
[05:18] <Minardi> thanks
[05:18] <iustin> could someone tell me how can i change my root password? in the installation i`ve type it with caps lock by mistake!?
[05:18] <Amaranth> meuserj|work: the program lsb-release should do it too
[05:18] <napsy> guessing that nforcre sound card has a hw mixer :)
[05:19] <meuserj|work> Amaranth, it actually doesn't for me...
[05:19] <Amaranth> iustin: you don't set a root password in the installation
[05:19] <bulio> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[05:19] <bulio> DISTRIB_RELEASE=5.10
[05:19] <bulio> DISTRIB_CODENAME=breezy
[05:19] <bulio> ;0
[05:19] <iustin> sorry a sudo pwd
[05:19] <dpupp> when someone tells you to run demsg to find the problem.... what are you suposed to look for? i have a screen full of text...  nothing familiar in there.
[05:19] <Amaranth> iustin: If you want to change your password go to System->Administration->Users and Groups
[05:19] <bulio> how do I change my root password?
[05:19] <ardchoille> iustin: the sudo password is your user password
[05:19] <Amaranth> dpupp: something that looks like an error
[05:19] <bulio> it is the same as user password
[05:20] <MickMcMack> How can I check CPU load on Ubuntu?
[05:20] <Amaranth> bulio: there is no root account
[05:20] <Amaranth> !sudo
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:20] <samppa> Can I get PHP 5 to Ubuntu from .deb?
[05:20] <WaterSevenUb> finally managed to install Java Media Framework to be able to play videos in Openoffice Impress... the problem now is that
[05:20] <Jowi> bulio: "sudo" uses your user password. root is disabled
[05:20] <dpupp> wow.. that would be just about.....everything.  most of it is: [4399204.715000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[05:20] <dpupp> [4399205.029000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:20] <Xappe> Skoal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28hardware%29
[05:20] <Amaranth> samppa: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[05:20] <WaterSevenUb> media player plays the MPEGS but when I try to embedd in the presentation
[05:20] <WaterSevenUb> nothing appears.
[05:20] <WaterSevenUb> :/
[05:20] <samppa> Amaranth: ok
[05:21] <dpupp> brb... rebooting. this problem is getting wierder and wierder.
[05:22] <Xappe> Skoal: i would go for one with a zd1211 chipset...
[05:22] <JaZy84> MickMcMack,
[05:22] <JaZy84> you can use top
[05:22] <JaZy84> in cmd
[05:22] <butcherbird> anyone here got framebuffer working in breezy? if i just put vga=731 i get the "undefined mode number" error (geforce 256 card). am i missng something?
[05:23] <diesel> butcherbird: framebuffer works for me.
[05:23] <MickMcMack> JaZy84, thanks.
[05:23] <MickMcMack> 99.9%. :(
[05:23] <Skoal> and which one has that?
[05:23] <MickMcMack> JaZy84, I assume that means both CPU's are working if it is at >50% ?
[05:24] <diesel> butcherbird: what resolution are you trying to get working?
[05:24] <Dido-> Any other good cd writing program except k3b ?
[05:24] <HymnToLife> gnomebaker
[05:24] <rosen> gnomebaker
[05:24] <butcherbird> dieman, just 1024x768
[05:24] <rosen> ...damn ... too slow
[05:24] <butcherbird> diesel, ^
[05:24] <Dido-> 10x ;)
[05:25] <Xappe> Skoal: can't remember...A-link according to the link I gave you. Try google, or pricerunner...
[05:25] <TokenBad> ok here is a good question...I installed the kde desktop..and went to install printer....when it picked the driver for my printer and I clicked ok...it then told me couldn't install driver cause it didn't exist or I didn't have permission
[05:25] <nalioth> Dido-: asked for "good" not mediocre. Dido- use them all, keep on using the one you like best
[05:25] <picasso> hey guys, i'm trying to install a new version of amarok (newer than 5.10 includes) this is what bugtraq (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16375) says: 1.3.5 is now on the Kubuntu website for Breezy installs, marking this Fixed.
[05:25] <butcherbird> diesel, did u do anything other that vga=whatever in grub?
[05:26] <picasso> (1.3.5 is a newer version that i would like to run)
[05:26] <picasso> how can i install this package?
[05:26] <hmpedersen> where would u normally find samba conf?
[05:26] <picasso> /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[05:26] <hmpedersen> thanx
[05:26] <picasso> or /etc/smb.conf on a lot of other os'
[05:26] <diesel> butcherbird: no, I just added vga=792 to the grub line that specifies the kernel
[05:27] <Dido-> noirequus, i'd like to  use k3b but it doesnt work
[05:27] <Anil> anyone on gnoppix?
[05:27] <picasso> can i install kubuntu packages on ubuntu?
[05:27] <stieve> hello does somebody know why I can't find my linksys router (WRT54G) in ubuntu? Windows finds it direct
[05:27] <diesel> butcherbird: try vga=0x317
[05:27] <bullitt> Why would xmms freeze on playing an mp3 file?
[05:27] <picasso> stieve: cant find it? dont you just point your browser to its ip?
[05:27] <cremate> what do you mean find the router?
[05:28] <DrBair> can I theoretically install dapper packages on a breezy system without too much issue or will it result in global destruction?
[05:28] <funkyHat> bullitt, because it's not using the correct sound output plugin
[05:28] <picasso> you mean dhcp notw orking?
[05:28] <bullitt> stieve, try <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:28] <eeejay> bullitt, you should upgrade your computer
[05:28] <diesel> butcherbird: I could even play video using mplayer with my fb
[05:28] <stieve> in the system=>administration=>networking
[05:28] <stieve> with the essid
[05:28] <butcherbird> diesel, show off
[05:28] <funkyHat> bullitt, try setting the sound server to either alsa or esound
[05:28] <bullitt> funkyHat, I'm using os
[05:28] <diesel> butcherbird: hehe
[05:28] <cremate> wireless? i assume
[05:28] <stieve> the essid of my philips router is there but not my linksys
[05:28] <cremate> using WEP?
[05:29] <stieve> yes wireless sorry
[05:29] <stieve> no WEP
[05:29] <butcherbird> well going to reboot thx
[05:29] <stieve> disabled it for testing
[05:29] <cremate> you should be able to input the SSID and enable eth1
[05:29] <bullitt> haha esound it is, thanks funkyHat
[05:29] <Dido-> Someone knows what does this mean?
[05:29] <Dido-> (gnomebaker:28375): Gtk-WARNING **: gtkwidget.c:4205: widget not within a GtkWindow
[05:29] <cremate> and it should connect
[05:30] <cremate> make sure you renable it after inputing the SSID
[05:30] <Seveas> Dido-, yeah, it means there's a minor bug in gnomebaker
[05:30] <Seveas> no big deal if the thing is still working
[05:30] <LoPMX> are there any quicktime codecs?
[05:30] <Ng> almost all gtk apps spit out an error or two like that ;)
[05:30] <bullitt> mmm, pocky
[05:30] <picasso> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[05:30] <Seveas> LoPMX, w32codecs
[05:30] <picasso> can i just add this to my sources.lst ?
[05:30] <LoPMX> Seveas, what do i play them with?
[05:30] <Seveas> picasso, no
[05:31] <stieve> is this a big or something that the linksys essid is not visible in the dropdown of network gonfiguration?
[05:31] <Seveas> LoPMX, mplayer / totem-xine
[05:31] <picasso> seveas: is there any way to install on regular ubuntu?
[05:31] <Seveas> picasso, yeah, add the correct sources.list entry :)
[05:31] <picasso> seveas: i mean the contents of that page
[05:31] <picasso> not the literal URL
[05:31] <LoPMX> er Seveas where do i get any w32codecs/
[05:31] <picasso> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.7 breezy main
[05:31] <LoPMX> i mean, any official source?
[05:32] <picasso> and apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[05:32] <diesel> picasso: yes, you can add that
[05:32] <picasso> ok cool
[05:32] <Dido-> Seveas, do you know if i could make dvd multi-session and ubuntu read them
[05:32] <picasso> soon i'll be syncing with my ipod without crashing!
[05:32] <Kyral> LoPMX: No there isn't
[05:32] <diesel> picasso: what were you using to syn with your ipod?
[05:32] <Whistler> Is there any software for sending sms messages with connected motorola cellphone?
[05:32] <picasso> diesel: wanted to use amarok
[05:33] <picasso> amarok crashes a lot but it's such a nice interface :)
[05:33] <diesel> picasso: If it crashes, who cares about the interface.  Have you tried gtkpod?
[05:33] <MickMcMack> Is there a way of seeing actual free RAM?
[05:33] <picasso> diesel: well, just b/c all my music is easily accessible through there
[05:33] <diesel> MickMcMack: free -h
[05:33] <LoPMX> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-rle, layout=(string)quicktime, depth=(int)32, width=(int)800, height=(int)600, framerate=(double)15.151515007019043Segmentation fault
[05:33] <picasso> and it's kinda scattered across my filesystem
[05:33] <MalcolmO> Windows is hosed. Using the Live CD, how do I see C:\ ?
[05:34] <picasso> but yea i just installed gtkpod. havent tried yet
[05:34] <St^Anger^19m> installing xubutnu-desktop :)
[05:34] <TokenBad> if I don't have a driver that say cups recommends for my printer..do I have to downlod it from a webpage?
[05:34] <diesel> picasso: I use gtkpod and like the way it works
[05:34] <MickMcMack> dieman, thanks.
[05:34] <St^Anger^19m> *xubuntu
[05:34] <picasso> diesel: cool, i will definitely try it out.
[05:34] <xored> hi, how can i check my CPU temps ( P III ) ?
[05:35] <TokenBad> anyone?
[05:35] <dpupp> xored, i use conky for monitoring cpu temps and such.
[05:36] <dpupp> xored: http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[05:36] <jordo23> Does anyone know how to hook evolution into an exchange server?
[05:36] <jordo23> Does anyone know how to hook evolution into an exchange server?
[05:36] <Amaranth> jordo23: Please don't repeat yourself.
[05:36] <xored> thank you
[05:36] <jordo23> Does anyone know how to hook evolution into an exchange server?
[05:36] <xored> are that in tthe reps ?
[05:36] <diesel> xored: cat /proc/acpi/thermal/CPU/temp (or something similar to that)
[05:36] <Amaranth> jordo23: Please stop.
[05:36] <Amaranth> jordo23: I was going to answer you, but now...
[05:36] <diesel> xored: conky is
[05:37] <jordo23> Does anyone know how to hook Evolution into an exchange server?
[05:37] <xored> diesel:  but its not command line based ?!
[05:37] <stieve> is there a way that ubunut automaticly choose an wifi network like windows does?
[05:37] <jordo23> Hello
[05:37] <dpupp> oh-oh. ^
[05:37] <diesel> xored: conky is not
[05:37] <jordo23> Does anyone know how to hook evolution into an exchange server?
[05:37] <cremate> stieve, i told you, you have to input the ssid and then restart eth1
[05:37] <diesel> xored: the cat command above is CL-based
[05:37] <xored> diesel: i have no ACPI dir
[05:38] <Amaranth> jordo23: Repeating yourself doesn't get you an answer any faster.
[05:38] <jordo23> Amatanth: Something was wrong with my irc client