[04:00] <pogs> CountDuckula: ...
[04:01] <oheyu> ｒｗｗ： Ｉ ｓｐｅａｋ Ｊａｐａｎｅｓｅ ａｎｄ Ｅｎｇｌｉｓｈ．
[04:01] <hufx> bazhang:  sorry Im just floating between  IRCs
[04:01] <ubuntu> hey
[04:01] <zcat[1]> !cn
[04:01] <ubuntu> i am problem
[04:01] <rww> !cn | oheyu
[04:01] <bazhang> hufx, then chat elsewhere; this is support only
[04:01] <oheyu> Ｉ ｃａｎ ｓｐｅａｋ Ｅｎｇｌｉｓｈ ｊｕｓｔ ｆｉｎｅ， ｒｗｗ ａｎｄ ｚｃａｔ［１］
[04:01] <rww> damn, zcat[1] beat me to it :(
[04:01] <evon> pogs: it's an ATI video card? countduckula please correct me if i'm wrong but ubuntu doesn't provide much support for old ATI cards anymore I believe.  I get very poor support for my laptop.  I had to install ubuntu 8.04 to get my card to work properly
[04:01] <ubuntu> kto umie uzywac johna the ripera na sevenie?
[04:01] <rww> oheyu: then stop not speaking it. This channel is English-only.
[04:02] <tootroot> why are you guys telling him to go to #ubuntu-cn, rww and zcat[1]?
[04:02] <tootroot> He is speaking English
[04:02] <ubuntu> kto umie uzywac johna the ripera na sevenie??
[04:02] <Theo> Anybody help me mount a cd-drive?
[04:02] <CountDuckula> pogs: can you up the memory allocated to video in bios?
[04:02] <tootroot> just wide-width characters
[04:02] <bazhang> rww, its english
[04:02] <tootroot> his chatsets are broken
[04:02] <MagicJ> I am running 10.4 on this machine and also on a new install that I just did, on the new install I can not see the grub menu, I am used to /boot/grub/menu.lst - where is it now?
[04:02] <histo> !ati | pogs
[04:02] <koms> anyone knows where it finds a irc girls england
[04:02] <rww> bazhang: not on my screen :(
[04:02] <crdlb> rww: your irc client is misconfigured :)
[04:02] <histo> !ot > koms
[04:02] <zcat[1]> nor mine
[04:02] <bazhang> koms, wrong channel
[04:02] <ubuntu> kto umie uzywac johna the ripera na sevenie??
[04:02] <rww> bazhang: and Google thinks it's chinese :(
[04:02] <bazhang> ubuntu polish?
[04:02] <crdlb> oheyu: your irc client is using really wide characters for some reason
[04:03] <oheyu> ｒｗｗ： ｔｈｅｙ ａｒｅ ｗｒｏｎｇ． ａｎｄ Ｉ ｄｏ ｎｏｔ ｋｎｏｗ ｗｈｙ ｉｔ ｉｓ ｄｏｉｎｇ ｔｈｉｓ．
[04:03] <bastid_raZor> rww: english here .. just wide spaced characters and some odd font
[04:03] <oheyu> Ｉｔ ｉｓ ｍｙ ｗｏｒｋ＇ｓ ＩＲＣ ｃｌｉｅｎｔ， ｉｎ Ｓｔｕｄｉｏ Ｊａｐａｎ． Ｒｕｎｎｉｎｇ Ｗｉｎｄｏｗｓ ７ Ｊａｐａｎ Ｅｄｉｔｉｏｎ．
[04:03] <hufx> bazhang:  shout shout let it all out!!!!!
[04:03] <ubuntu> bazhang, yes, tak
[04:03] <bnagy> cause it's japanese? ;) Looks fine in irssi. :)
[04:03] <pogs> CountDuckula: good idea. let me try...
[04:03] <maco> bastid_raZor: its ascii characters rendered in a japanese font
[04:03] <rww> so I'm guessing some silly unicode stuff :(
[04:03] <bazhang> ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-pl
[04:03] <ubuntu> ok
[04:03] <rww> which should fall under "don't be annoying" :(
[04:03] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:03] <ubuntu> i sorry
[04:03] <CountDuckula> evon: yes old radeon is bad support now from what i hear, but still it should not crash outright
[04:03] <oheyu> Ｉｔ＇ｓ Ｅｎｇｌｉｓｈ ｉｓ ｗｈａｔ Ｉ ａｍ ｔｙｐｉｎｇ． Ｉ ｄｏ ｎｏｔ ｋｎｏｗ ａｂｏｕｔ ｆｏｎｔｓ， Ｉ ａｍ ｕｓｉｎｇ ｄｅｆａｕｌｔ．
[04:03] <hiexpo> !flood | oheyu
[04:03] <hufx> bazhang:  shout shout let it all out!!!!!
[04:03] <bazhang> hufx stay on topic
[04:03] <oheyu> ｈｉｅｘｐｏ： Ｉ ａｍ ｎｏｔ ｆｌｏｏｄｉｎｇ．
[04:04] <maco> oheyu: i see english
[04:04] <zcat[1]> oheyu:  please just use the NORMAL text characters, I can't read anything you're typing
[04:04] <oheyu> ｍａｃｏ： ｓａｍｅ．
[04:04] <hufx> why the kick???
[04:04] <crdlb> oheyu: if you can, try http://webchat.freenode.net/
[04:04] <hiexpo> look at the size of your fonts
[04:04] <koms> anyone knows where it finds a irc girls england
[04:04] <oheyu> ｚｃａｔ［１］： Ｉ ｄｏ ｎｏｔ ｋｎｏｗ， ｆｉｘ ｙｏｕｒ ｃｌｉｅｎｔ？ ：（
[04:04] <bobbrown> looks english to me
[04:04] <oheyu> ｃｒｄｌｂ： ｓａｄｌｙ ｍｔ ｗｏｒｋ ｂｌｏｃｋｓ ｉｔ．
[04:04] <bazhang> hufx, you are repeatedly offtopic; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[04:04] <longbi> help yahoo im not working...
[04:04] <maco> koms: wrong channel
[04:04] <bobbrown> hiexpo: if the fonts look like the wrong size, your terminal/font/utf8 setup is broke
[04:04] <oheyu> ／ｊｏｉｎ ＃ｕｂｕｎｔｕ－ｏｆｆｔｏｐｉｃ
[04:04] <oheyu> ｏｏｐｓ
[04:05] <evon> pogs. countduckula: i think an alternate installation CD would be your best bet
[04:05] <FloodBot2> oheyu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <maco> koms: this channel is for ubuntu technical support, not for picking up girls
[04:05] <zcat[1]> looks like unicode characters that I don't have in the current fond to me.. squares with hex numbers in them
[04:05] <oheyu> Ｙｏｕ ｓｈｏｕｌｄ ｕｓｅ ＧＮＯＭＥ－ＴＥＲＭＩＮＡＬ， ｚｃａｔ［１］
[04:05] <hiexpo> no everyone else is fine it hime
[04:05] <FlameTai1> Question guys, I know it's probably in the manual some where but I'm too lazy to look, where abouts is the setting to make the icons on the desktop smaller?
[04:05] <hufx> bazhang:  HOW OT?
[04:05] <RudyValencia> oheyu is using a Japanese version of Windows so his system is sending wide Latin text instead of regular Latin text
[04:05] <maco> zcat[1]: they're double-width english letters, for when you're typing english in the middle of a japanese sentence. shows up fine for me, but then i have japanese fonts installed since i also know japanese
[04:06] <bastid_raZor> FlameTai1: can't you alt + middle click and resize them?
[04:06] <RudyValencia> he may not be able to fix it.
[04:06] <CountDuckula> flametail: in the manual
[04:06] <bnagy> he shouldn't need to fix it, it's fine for anyone using a properly configured client
[04:06] <oheyu> Ｉｔ ｌｏｏｋｓ ｐｒｏｐｅｒ ｔｏ ｍｅ． Ｉ ｄｏ ｎｏｔ ｋｎｏｗ ｗｈａｔ ｍｉｇｈｔ ｂｅ ｗｒｏｎｇ ｗｉｔｈ ｙｏｕｒ ｏｗｎ ｃｌｉｅｎｔ． ：ｘ
[04:06] <FlameTai1> bastid_raZor: That doesn't work for me
[04:06] <bazhang> oheyu, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:06] <RudyValencia> I can see it fine, myself, because I am using Windows 7, which has Japanese font support by default
[04:06] <zcat[1]> well fine, I'll just ignore him then.
[04:07] <oheyu> Ｉ ａｓｋｅｄ ａｂｏｕｔ ｔｈｅ ｕｂｕｎｔｕ ｐａｃｋａｇｅｓ ａｎｄ ｎｏｗ Ｉ ｄｏ ｎｏｔ． Ｂｕｔ ｐｅｏｐｌｅ ａｒｅ ｔａｌｋｉｎｇ ａｂｏｕｔ ｍｅ ｓｏ Ｉ ａｍ ｒｅｐｌｙｉｎｇ． ＝］
[04:07] <bazhang> oheyu, well lets stop please
[04:07] <maco> oheyu: it's not normal ascii characters. it's unicode characters for use with japanese. i can see it because i have japanese fonts installed
[04:07] <IdleOne> oheyu: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <hiexpo> bazhang,  - kick him ther messing with us
[04:07] <rww> bnagy: I am using a properly-configured client. He's using a non-standard character set.
[04:07] <maco> hiexpo: they're not messing with anyone
[04:07] <RudyValencia> oheyu: To answer your initial question: go to http:/packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:07] <maco> hiexpo: i can read it just fine
[04:07] <oheyu> ＩｄｌｅＯｎｅ： ｇｏｔ ｉｔ ；） Ｔｈｘ． Ｉ ｓｈａｌｌ ｇｏ ａｗａｙ ｎｏｗ Ｉ ｔｈｉｎｋ．
[04:07] <RudyValencia> Oh, okay
[04:08] <maco> oheyu: do you want help getting your computer to switch back to ascii?
[04:08] <bnagy> rww: Shows up fine here, and I' don't have any japanese fonts - I'm just using plain ol irssi. Anyway, it's not life and death.
[04:08] <oheyu> Ｗｅｌｌ Ｉ ａｍ ｕｓｉｎｇ Ｗｉｎｄｏｗｓ ７ ａｔ ｗｏｒｋ ｒｉｇｈｔ ｎｏｗ， ｍａｃｏ． Ｉ ｓｈａｌｌ ａｓｋ ＃ｗｉｎｄｏｗｓ
[04:08] <RandBrittain> Does anyone have any idea why the sound in WoW would pop and click in Windows 7 mode but not in XP, and how I could fix that?
[04:08] <hufx> bazhang:  0|{ 1 w1�� 7r� 70 h3�p 07h3r$
[04:08] <bazhang> RandBrittain, is Ubuntu in this equation?
[04:09] <anthony> Hi.  any one want to help with sound questions? racking my brain-- no headphone audio output. new 10.4 install
[04:09] <IdleOne> !leet
[04:09] <CountDuckula> lol
[04:09] <RandBrittain> bazhang: Yes, I'm running it in Wine's XP/7 modes.
[04:09] <crdlb> oheyu: if you can't get it to join, copy-and-paste this : /join ##windows
[04:09] <bazhang> RandBrittain, best to check appdb and ask in #winehq
[04:09] <oheyu> ｔｈａｎｋｓ ｙｏｕ ｃｒｄｌｂ， ｊｕｓｔ ａｓｋｅｄ ａｂｏｕｔ ｉｔ
[04:09] <bazhang> !appdb | RandBrittain
[04:09] <RudyValencia> What is the best way to set up Samba share automounting on a laptop that may not always be on the LAN where the Samba shares are served from?
[04:10] <RandBrittain> Winehq is on FreeNode, then?
[04:10] <bazhang> RandBrittain, yes
[04:10] <bazhang> RandBrittain, /join #winehq
[04:11] <RandBrittain> Ah, I see. I tried to put in an old X-Fi sound card to see if that fixed the problem, but I can't get any sound out of it. Do you know why that might be?
[04:11] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - was his fonts large are ure end also ?
[04:11] <RandBrittain> I was told Ubuntu had X-Fi drivers now.
[04:11] <hiexpo> are* on
[04:11] <hufx> 91v3 17 4 r3$7 will do!
[04:11] <bazhang> hufx, please use normal english
[04:12] <zcat[1]> !en
[04:12] <IdleOne> hiexpo: yes but his english was fine. distracting but he was not trolling in any way and asked a straight forward support question
[04:12] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  i agree i couldread it fine buthis font size was like 22
[04:13] <hufx> ditto! will do
[04:13] <zcat[1]> IdleOne:, hiexpo I can't read a single thing he says, it's just squares with 4-digit hex in them. I have him on ignore now. If he wants help he might be better of asking in plain text.
[04:13] <bodom> I guess I've found my issue at: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309 . I'm gonna try to change elevator
[04:14] <IdleOne> zcat[1]: he has left.
[04:14] <Ganymede> zcat[1], it's because he was using full-width latin characters, they're meant to line up with japanese and chinese characters
[04:14] <Ganymede> zcat[1], they're in the unicode plane around where chinese ideographs are so that's why google thought it was chinese
[04:14] <bazhang> !ot
[04:14] <oheyu> ｎｏ， Ｉ ａｍ ｓｔｉｌｌ ｈｅｒｅ， ｊｕｓｔ ｎｏｔ ｃｈａｔｔｉｎｇ ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｎｏ ｏｎｅ ｌｉｋｅｓ ｉｔ．
[04:14] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[04:15] <zcat[1]> so this would be because his default language is chinese/japanses perhaps?
[04:15] <RudyValencia> zcat[1]: Yes.
[04:15] <bnagy> how about tasty, 8-bit clean bridging interface problems, like mine? :D
[04:15] <bobbrown> hiexpo: http://i.imgur.com/JryX0.png
[04:15] <bobbrown> hiexpo: thats what it should look like
[04:15] <zcat[1]> bazhang:  I consider this on-topic..
[04:15] <bobbrown> hiexpo: your terminal is misconfiged if it doesnt
[04:16] <bazhang> zcat[1], lets move on
[04:16] <pogs> brb
[04:16] <IdleOne> zcat[1]: to answer your question, yes. Now back to support :)
[04:16] <anthony> hi.  anyone who wants to help get my usb audio interface working?
[04:16] <zcat[1]> support question: how to I configure xchat to display the unicode characters we were just seeing before?
[04:17] <bazhang> zcat[1], I'd imagine the japanese chinese language packs
[04:17] <hiexpo> bobbrown,  it does look like that but his fonts are larger is all
[04:17] <zcat[1]> also if I paste them to gnome terminal I STILL see swuares with hex codes
[04:18] <bnagy> zcat[1]: that's your terminal being broken then, you shouldn't need any language packs to display wide latin
[04:18] <RPG-Master> if you heard a sample of a drum from a jimi hendrix song, used in another song... what would you think?
[04:18] <alexi5> for someone who wants to learn linux and develop apps for it , is it better to run linux in a vm  or bare hardware or it doesn't matter ?
[04:18] <RPG-Master> alexi5: pretty sure it doesn
[04:19] <RPG-Master> 't\
[04:19] <RPG-Master> matter
[04:19] <RPG-Master> :/
[04:19] <FloodBot2> RPG-Master: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:19] <RPG-Master> fail on my part
[04:19] <bnagy> but I don't use gnome or xchat or pretty much any of the ubuntu gui so I can't help :(
[04:19] <alexi5> ok
[04:20] <RPG-Master> oh crap... wrong channel tab :P
[04:20] <RPG-Master> glad I could help though :P
[04:20] <bnagy> I do, however, have 8 10.04 servers where I can't get bridging running, if anyone has experience with it...
[04:20] <hufx> RPG-Master:  opps me too!!!
[04:20] <sUperaCtivo> i need help with fglrx on a notebook dell 1535 with ubuntu 10.04
[04:21] <RPG-Master> hufx: :P
[04:21] <sUperaCtivo> please
[04:22] <zcat[1]> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1781 -- suggestions?
[04:22] <hufx> RPG-Master: I will be polite now!!!
[04:23] <bnagy> zcat[1]: http://xchat.org/encoding/ ?
[04:23] <rww> bnagy: fyi, I just installed Ubuntu's default non-Latin font set and oheyu's stuff now shows up fine, so yes, it was fonts.
[04:24] <bnagy> rww: did you try just setting the system charset? I'm not trying to be smart, just asking
[04:25] <rww> bnagy: my entire stack from irc client, through screen, to my terminal is set to utf8. It's a font thing. Like I said, I installed fonts, it now works.
[04:26] <zcat[1]> encoding is set to utf-8 .. what's is supposed to be?
[04:26] <hufx> pearl jam rocks  :)
[04:26] <bnagy> rww: right, but if you do export CHARSET=ISO-8859-15 shouldn't that also fix it?
[04:26] <bazhang> !ot | hufx
[04:26] <aTypical> Howdy, all.  I installed 10.04 on someone's PC and it's missing menu.lst in /boot/grub/.  Did 10.04 move to another method for controlling grub lists?
[04:26] <rww> bnagy: I have no idea, and this isn't something I intend to do.
[04:26] <hufx> oh please!
[04:26] <bazhang> aTypical, its grub2 now
[04:26] <bnagy> zcat[1]: on the page I posted, I think try Latin/Unicode Hybrid, I don't think it will support proper japanese etc but hsould support unicode latin
[04:26] <bazhang> !grub2 | aTypical
[04:27] <aTypical> Thank you, bazhang
[04:27] <zcat[1]> ??????? ??? ????????
[04:27] <bazhang> hufx, this is Ubuntu support not chat; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[04:27] <zcat[1]> Hmm.. still squares
[04:27] <bnagy> zcat[1]: oops, that's not right :(
[04:27] <zcat[1]> just pasted his quit message, I have no idea what it says
[04:28] <hufx> bazhang:  ok!#
[04:28] <bnagy> speaking of grub, on my last dist-upgrade I couldn't roll it out automatically across all my servers because of the curses grub configurator, which kind of sucks
[04:28] <zcat[1]> someone else who can see 'wide english' please repaste something?
[04:29] <bnagy> < oheyu> no, I am still here, just not chatting because no one likes it.
[04:29] <bnagy> but I don't know if my client will paste back in wide
[04:30] <Theo> I need help mounting a USB disk drive
[04:32] <zcat[1]> ????? ????? in unicode works just fine for me
[04:33] <zcat[1]> and I've tried a bunck of different fonts too
[04:33] <zcat[1]> *bunch
[04:33] <kc8pxy> ok, so i finally upgrade to lucid,  and my previously hardy system has a jammed package,  flashplugin-nonfree won't install, won't -f install, won't remove. how do i fix it?
[04:34] <kc8pxy> !controls
[04:34] <toenailTL> how do i install a tar.gz ex- flash player for mozilla . no i looked on some forums but you cant change directory to a file
[04:34] <Ganymede> zcat[1], can you read this wide english:Ｉ ａｍ ｓｔｉｌｌ ｈｅｒｅ，
[04:35] <jrib> toenailTL: why not just click on the yellow bar in firefox after visiting a flash site?
[04:35] <zcat[1]> Ganymede:  ??? ?? ???
[04:35] <tomcat025> flash can be apt installed as well
[04:36] <toenailTL> we'll funny thing is is youtube and some flash sites work but i went to a myspace page and install flash showing
[04:36] <cappicard> ok... pulseaudio is interfering with jboss!
[04:36] <Ganymede> zcat[1], man i don't know...it just worked for me out of the box...check you locales if it is set to UTF8...
[04:36] <cappicard> i can't get it from using port 4713, which jboss needs
[04:36] <jrib> toenailTL: what?
[04:36] <zcat[1]> It was set to utf-8, currently trying latin-unicode which also fails
[04:37] <jrib> zcat[1]: are you using a strange font?
[04:37] <toenailTL> sorry a  myspace band page
[04:37] <zcat[1]> not imporatant, I just can't help anyone who can't post in plain utf-8
[04:37] <jrib> toenailTL: what about it?
[04:37] <tomcat025> Is anyone familiar with xscreens and nvidia drivers via hdmi? I have my laptop hooked to my 42"tv but the tv's screen size is too big. I cannot see the menus
[04:38] <toenailTL> well were the media is supposed to be p[laying it says install flash player
[04:38] <zcat[1]> jrib:  I tried a whole bunch of different strange fonts, none of them seem to include those characters
[04:38] <tomcat025> toenailTL, did you restart your browser?
[04:38] <jrib> zcat[1]: you tried deja vu ?
[04:38] <zcat[1]> jrib:  I have a feeling I tried that font before...
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> zcat[1]: i actually use deja vu book mono. looks a bit better than yours :P
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> 23:06 < oheyu> Ｉｔ ｌｏｏｋｓ ｐｒｏｐｅｒ ｔｏ ｍｅ． Ｉ ｄｏ ｎｏｔ ｋｎｏｗ ｗｈａｔ ｍｉｇｈｔ ｂｅ ｗｒｏｎｇ ｗｉｔｈ ｙｏｕｒ
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> err.. wrong button
[04:39] <zcat[1]> trying deja vu mono now. It looks like crap AND I still can't see any of those characters
[04:40] <toenailTL> yes . ok pretty much flash only works on some sites so a simple solution i guess would be to uninstall then reinstall so how would i uninstall it
[04:40] <tomcat025> toenailTL, did you install the non-free version or the open version?
[04:40] <zcat[1]> Oops, wrong one, deja vu sans mono ... looks OK but still only seeing hex boxes
[04:40] <toenailTL> ive had ubuntu on this machine for over a year
[04:40] <tdhz77> Gwibber will not launch: http://pastebin.com/yu2HS1gZ
[04:40] <toenailTL> im thinking it was the non-free
[04:40] <Random832> zcat[1]: what characters are they?
[04:41] <toenailTL> not to sound retarted but how can i check
[04:41] <zcat[1]> ff30 ff41 ff52 ... etc
[04:41] <tomcat025> toenailTL, good question. my brain just died. give  me a minute
[04:41] <toenailTL> im a slacker ubuntu user . i need to use it more cause i hate windows with a passion but i think i need it for my  presonus firepod
[04:41] <Random832> zcat[1]: those are fullwidth alphabetic characters - they can be found in japanese/chinese/korean fonts
[04:42] <Random832> the ons bastid_raZor pasted oheyu saying earlier, right?
[04:42] <bobbrown> echo lol |perl -e 'use encoding utf8; y/!-~/\x{ff01}-\x{ff5e}/ and print for <STDIN>'
[04:42] <tomcat025> toenailTL, You using FF? It should be listed under your plugins menu
[04:43] <zcat[1]> Random832:  no problem. Just means if an asian-speaking person comes on IRC then I can't help them unless they switch to the 'normal' English alphabet
[04:43] <EntityReborn> Hey. I have a friend trying to automount CIFS shares at boot, if connected to his home LAN via lappy. COuld I get some info to give him?
[04:43] <pip> Hello all, how many people are here now ?
[04:44] <Random832> zcat[1]: i meant that more as a suggestion of what sort of fonts you should be installing if you want to be able to see them
[04:44] <EntityReborn> pip 1420
[04:44] <EntityReborn> including bots
[04:44] <pip> :-P
[04:44] <zcat[1]> 1418
[04:44] <EntityReborn> RudyValencia, hay :)
[04:44] <zcat[1]> but probably quite a lot are idling
[04:44] <Theo> Anybody help me mount a cd-drive?
[04:44] <EntityReborn> Any clues as to my question?
[04:45] <bobbrown> copy over all your win7 fonts and osx fonts to your ~/.fonts dir
[04:45] <RudyValencia> hey EntityReborn
[04:45] <Faithful> I have lost my volume applet and I don't know how to get it back again.
[04:45] <bobbrown> free fonts are generally crappy anyways, lack of unicode tables is a big problem, most only have glyphs for a couple here and there
[04:45] <pip> Is there any tool for system optimization ?
[04:45] <pip> Like powertop
[04:46] <zcat[1]> Faithful:  right-click a panel, 'add to panel', it's in there somewhere
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> pip: i'm glad you said that.. i was trying to think of that for two days now.
[04:46] <birchman> anyone know of new printers that are Linux friendly?
[04:46] <tyler_d> failed attempt at installing 10.04 from usb - I'm in live and it comes up with ubi-language failed.... the /var/log/syslog stated that I/O write failed... any clues would be great ??
[04:46] <EntityReborn> birchman, generially, most are.
[04:46] <maco> birchman: cant go wrong with an hp inkjet
[04:46] <birchman> nope
[04:47] <EntityReborn> Thanks to CUPS
[04:47] <maco> EntityReborn: lexmark are still pretty evil on linux
[04:47] <EntityReborn> tyler_d, maybe you have a bad HDD
[04:47] <birchman> I heard Epson is
[04:47] <Faithful> zcat[1], not that I can see
[04:47] <toenailTL> using firefox yes
[04:47] <EntityReborn> maco, ah
[04:47] <zcat[1]> birchman:  take your laptop to the store and test them. (if they won't let you test, go to another store)
[04:47] <EntityReborn> I have an Epson NX415
[04:47] <bastid_raZor> Lexmark == fail .. i have a 5070 all in one that sits collecting dust
[04:47] <maco> EntityReborn: its more like "generally, most *postscript* printers are"
[04:47] <EntityReborn> maco, good point.
[04:47] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org birchman check the printer database
[04:47] <birchman> what makes you think I have a laptop lol
[04:47] <tyler_d> EntityReborn: not likely, raid 10 with 6 drives
[04:48] <zcat[1]> Faithful:  right-click a panel, 'add to panel', "volume control"
[04:48] <birchman> good idea but sorry desktop
[04:48] <toenailTL> as far as checking plugins i have to say wow on my part me dont know how to do that but i once knew how to set up networks
[04:48] <zcat[1]> Lexmark are crap qlauity anyhow.. but a completely waste of time. No lexmark printer will work in any linux distro
[04:48] <EntityReborn> tyler_d,  I/O write failed makes me suspicious
[04:49] <tyler_d> EntityReborn: restarting to see if It wasn't a temp space issue
[04:49] <birchman> I know LexSPARK is what they should be called
[04:49] <Faithful> zcat[1], it's not there
[04:49] <toenailTL> i did google it though and it went to the mozilla page and i just updated flash so im gonna see that it doesnt work
[04:49] <zcat[1]> most good quality printers are plug and go in ubuntu
[04:49] <EntityReborn> tyler_d, that could be as well.
[04:49] <tyler_d> EntityReborn: it it was jbod I would question it
[04:49] <longbi> anyone know about empathy not opening???/
[04:49] <zcat[1]> .. but the way to be sure with any hardware is take your lappy with you when you shop
[04:50] <birchman> I have a mac and only use it for phots and printing off coupons for dinning
[04:50] <toenailTL> and it didnt work i love being a retarted drunk
[04:50] <birchman> I use Linux for the serious stuff
[04:50] <zcat[1]> anyone else know how to re-add the volume thingy? It's not where it was from 9.10 and before?
[04:51] <tomcat025> I am having an issue getting my secondary monitor (42" tv) to display properly over HDMI. Nvidia driver version 195.36.15 on a geforce 8600m gt gpu.
[04:51] <toenailTL> got a better question last time i installed ubuntu studio i think it was it worked once so does anyone knw if they got rid of all the bugs for that
[04:51] <pip> if I want to add any kernel module option, where is the best place to add ?
[04:51] <longbi> anyone?? empathy help?//
[04:51] <birchman> anybody like Ultimate edition?
[04:52] <bazhang> birchman, that is not supported here
[04:52] <pip> I mean what is the typical *Ubuntu* wya
[04:52] <zcat[1]> pip:  /etc/modconf.d/
[04:52] <tomcat025> ultimate edition of what?
[04:52] <birchman> oh sorry it is ubuntu thougjh
[04:52] <bastid_raZor> pip: /etc/modules
[04:52] <toenailTL> installing a tar.gz through shell ? anyone
[04:52] <bazhang> birchman, a derivative, but not Ubuntu
[04:52] <birchman> UE 2.6
[04:52] <bazhang> !derivatives > birchman
[04:52] <tyler_d> EntityReborn: installed now
[04:53] <bnagy> toenailTL: tar -zxvf filename will extract it to the current directory
[04:53] <zcat[1]> "ubuntu ultimate" is a remix, not an official canonical supported distro. It's be like supporting Mint!
[04:53] <EntityReborn> tyler_d, great news :P
[04:53] <Error404NotFound> looking for a tool to send files in email from commandline, i had it installed, just forgot the name.
[04:53] <birchman> It's just Ubuntu tweaked with all the favorite goodies out of the box
[04:53] <scunizi> Error404NotFound: mutt
[04:53] <zcat[1]> birchman:  so's mint ;)
[04:54] <birchman> yup used it before
[04:54] <bazhang> birchman, did you have an Ubuntu support question? chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:54] <toenailTL> bnagy its not xvfz eaither way i've extracted it allready
[04:54] <Error404NotFound> scunizi, nope, what i had was just used to send emails, not a complete mail reader type thing
[04:54] <tomcat025> I am having an issue getting my secondary monitor (42" tv) to display properly over HDMI. Nvidia driver version 195.36.15 on a geforce 8600m gt gpu.
[04:54] <scunizi> Error404NotFound: sendmail?
[04:54] <birchman> yes i did about what printer brands work best
[04:54] <zcat[1]> Sorry, it's be like asking ubuntu questions in #debian ;)
[04:54] <birchman> samething
[04:55] <bazhang> birchman, and I directed you to the linuxprinting.org database
[04:55] <Error404NotFound> scunizi, naaa, not even mailx, problem is i can't remember the name :(
[04:55] <birchman> sorry all the responds flash by so quickly
[04:55] <scunizi> Error404NotFound: have you searched synaptic with keywords?
[04:55] <tyler_d> excellent
[04:55] <toenailTL> bnagy what next
[04:55] <Aidar-Nagato> can someone show original sources.list?
[04:55] <Error404NotFound> scunizi, dpkg -l | grep mail, and man -k mail doesn't return anything
[04:56] <bnagy> toenailTL: sorry, I thought you wanted to know how to extract a tar.gz file (which IS tar -zxvf btw).. what are you trying to do now?
[04:56] <igoryonya> is there some command line or gui utility that allows to paste a certain data inside of a file. For example. I have some big file, say 1Gb, where I need to replace one spot somewhere in the middle of it (at a specified offset in bytes) with some other file's contents. For example: somePasteUtil hugeFile.bin --pasteOffset=358989098 pasteFile.bin
[04:56] <birchman> is thoggen illegal
[04:56] <longbi> hi dougdoug
[04:57] <zcat[1]> birchman:  the best option is to just test them and get a printer that works with NO effort. Don't get something that requires non-free packages either, there's no guarantee that they'll continue to support it through future upgrades of cups/kernel/whatever
[04:57] <toenailTL> its flash player its working like windows half ass (in a way )
[04:57] <wildbat> anyone if there is something for echo cancelling for the internal mic? ~ i got big echo while doing voice chatting .
[04:57] <scunizi> Error404NotFound: apt-cache search email
[04:57] <toenailTL> so download the tar.gz and now need to install the libflashplayer.so
[04:58] <zcat[1]> birchman:  lots of printers you can just plug in and wait, a bubble pops up saying the printer is ready, that's all you need to do... you want one of those printers
[04:58] <birchman> yup easy as pie printer
[04:58] <Error404NotFound> scunizi, its mpack, found it on another server, i had saved its name :)
[04:58] <RudyValencia> Hi, how do I mount Samba shares on a laptop where I can't use /etc/fstab because the laptop isn't always on the LAN or connected to the VPN?
[04:59] <toenailTL> bnagy be back in a bit did a update have to restart
[04:59] <scunizi> Error404NotFound: wow.. doing apt-cache search email doesn't turn that up
[04:59] <birchman> how do you get compiz to make the burn effect when you open something
[04:59] <birchman> I jave it slected and YES have an nvidia card running
[04:59] <bnagy> RudyValencia: rc.local?
[04:59] <zcat[1]> birchman:  compizconfig-settings-manager will let you adjust all those effects
[05:00] <Error404NotFound> scunizi, i never did that apt-cache instead turned to the other box which is relatively new and fully documented :) mpack is cool :)
[05:00] <RudyValencia> bnagy: I'm trying to set up autofs to do it but I can't get it to work
[05:00] <birchman> I had it working on 8.04 about a year ago but for now it will not
[05:00] <RudyValencia> I'm following http://www.howtoforge.com/accessing_windows_or_samba_shares_using_autofs
[05:00] <birchman> everything is checked as should be
[05:00] <Error404NotFound> scunizi, ssmtp + gmail + mpack and you have got the best :)
[05:00] <RudyValencia> and when I try to go to the /cifs directory autofs creates, I don't see my shares there.
[05:01] <bnagy> RudyValencia: this is probably a terrible idea but I would write a small script that checks the VPN status and then just runs mount if it's there? I'm not a support guy though, I'm just hanging out for someone that knows about bridge interfaces
[05:01] <RudyValencia> I don't know how to write scripts.
[05:01] <zcat[1]> bnagy:  that's what I'd have done too ;)
[05:01] <edbian> RudyValencia, I can help you write a script provided you know the terminal commands to check the VPN status
[05:02] <RudyValencia> I don't know. I'm new to desktop Linux.
[05:02] <callowayj> is it possible to have seperate wallpapers for each desktop in ubuntu?
[05:02] <edbian> RudyValencia, Have you connected to your VPN ever on linux?
[05:02] <RudyValencia> Yes
[05:02] <edbian> RudyValencia, How do you do it?
[05:03] <RudyValencia> I have Network Manager set up with an entry for my VPN
[05:03] <jmac> hi
[05:03] <jmac> Alguem from Brazil?
[05:03] <tyler_d> how do you run gparted from a live cd?
[05:03] <rww> !br | jmac
[05:03] <edbian> RudyValencia, We have to figure out a way from the terminal to tell if your VPN is reachable or not.
[05:03] <jmac> e ai rww
[05:03] <jmac> blz?
[05:04] <callowayj> go to System then administrator, then partition manager, I think
[05:04] <bnagy> edbian: how about ifconfig | grep my.vpn.ip ?
[05:04] <edbian> RudyValencia, I'm not very familiar with VPN's so this is difficult for me.  Once we have this bit figured out the rest is cake.
[05:04] <jmac> Que parte do brasil | rww
[05:04] <jmac> ?
[05:04] <edbian> bnagy, excellent
[05:04] <edbian> RudyValencia, does your vpn show up in the output of ifconfig ?
[05:04] <bazhang> jmac, /join #ubuntu-br
[05:04] <bnagy> edbian: I'd just use the network part (like first three octets if it's a /24)
[05:04] <igoryonya> is there some command line or gui utility that allows to paste a certain data inside of a file. For example. I have some big file, say 1Gb, where I need to replace one spot somewhere in the middle of it (at a specified offset in bytes) with some other file's contents. For example: somePasteUtil hugeFile.bin --pasteOffset=358989098 pasteFile.bin
[05:05] <frobisher> tyler _d: make the dvd bootable 1st in your bios.
[05:05] <edbian> bnagy, do you mean of the VPN's IP ?
[05:05] <kc8pxy> i need help fixing something that should not break. i upgraded to 10.04 from 8.04,  and at least flashplugin-nonfre is jammed in sideways. i can't get it to reinstall, -f install, or remove, i can't even autoremove..  how do i fix this?? it's not ok that upgrading jammed things sideways.
[05:05] <edbian> RudyValencia, Does it show up there?  It should if you're connected to it.
[05:05] <callowayj> did anyone see my question about different wallpapers on desktops?
[05:05] <edbian> bnagy, Brilliant btw, thank you
[05:05] <bnagy> edbian: yeah, like they will normally get assigned any ip inside a range
[05:05] <edbian> callowayj, Everyone can see it, nobody had anything to say I guess
[05:06] <edbian> bnagy, ok thanks
[05:06] <RudyValencia> edbian: I'm not just checking if I'm on the VPN.
[05:06] <callowayj> ahh ok, not sure I had a voice thank you
[05:06] <edbian> RudyValencia, ok.  I thought the problem was that you need to know if you are on a VPN and if so to mount something.  Is that not true?
[05:06] <bazhang> callowayj, using compiz? iirc compiz has that feature, you could try #compiz as well
[05:06] <edbian> RudyValencia, Are you seeing what bnagy said?
[05:07] <callowayj> ok yes, I do
[05:07] <callowayj> thansk again
[05:07] <RudyValencia> edbian: I need to mount my shares if either I'm on my local LAN or the VPN is connected.
[05:07] <zcat[1]> !info wallpaper-tray
[05:07] <zcat[1]> hmm..
[05:07] <edbian> RudyValencia, so you need to mount shares no matter what...
[05:07] <kc8pxy> where do i learn how to fix stuff that's not supposed to break in ubvuntu??  it doesn't seem to be here.
[05:07] <edbian> RudyValencia, We don't need to check anything at all.
[05:07] <RudyValencia> No, what if I'm on the road and not yet connected to the VPN?
[05:08] <newlyparted> anyone familiar with grubs
[05:08] <kc8pxy> newlyparted:  i am..  what you need?
[05:08] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can anyone tell me how to get an shared Internet connection working with Ubuntu to a Roku set-top box?  I had it working before, but an update in the past week borked it,  and now I can't set up an outgoing from my output Ethernet card.  I tried looking at the Howto Instructions, but they didn't help
[05:08] <edbian> RudyValencia, Ahh, so you need to mount your shares (i'm assuming over the internet) if and only iff you have the VPN up?
[05:08] <RudyValencia> No.
[05:08] <edbian> RudyValencia, Or, do you need to mount the shares if and only iff you have any network connection?
[05:08] <RudyValencia> I don't need the VPN when I'm at home.
[05:09] <zcat[1]> jdsbluedevl:  firestarter is probably the easiest option
[05:09] <newlyparted> i just made a new partition and put ubuntu on it.. my linux 1.5 grub i think it is.. can i edit it
[05:09] <jdsbluedevl> zcat[1]: I tried firestarter, it didn't work
[05:09] <edbian> RudyValencia, so you want the script to know if you're at home or not.
[05:09] <RudyValencia> I need to mount my shares only if 1) I'm on my LAN, or 2) connected to my VPN.
[05:09] <kc8pxy> newlyparted: .......  that doesn't totally make sense.
[05:09] <edbian> RudyValencia, If you're at home mount the share, if you're not, check if you have the VPN, if yes, mount the share
[05:09] <RudyValencia> right
[05:09] <newlyparted> i want to add a different version of ubuntu on my "linux drive" partition
[05:09] <bnagy> RudyValencia: the home one makes things a little tricky, like imagine your network at home is 192.168.1.x - lots of places you go on the road will have that same IP range, so really we need to see if your SMB server is there somehow
[05:10] <edbian> RudyValencia, alright, alright.  How to check if you're at home...
[05:10] <bazhang> newlyparted, grub2? what version of Ubuntu
[05:10] <RudyValencia> but if I'm in, say, a hotel, and I don't have a connection yet, configuring my shares in /etc/fstab will cause Ubuntu to fail booting won't it?
[05:10] <zcat[1]> bnagy:  nmap -sP to server as root, it returns the MAC address...
[05:10] <edbian> RudyValencia, it won't fail to boot, it will just take a long time
[05:11] <bnagy> zcat[1]: I dunno if that will work over the VPN though
[05:11] <zcat[1]> bnagy:  ahh, true
[05:11] <edbian> RudyValencia, Suppose we make 2 scripts, one that mounts via the VPN on road and another that mounts normally.  You choose which to run (basically you decide if you're at home or not)
[05:11] <RudyValencia> I don't want to wait a long time multiplied by the four shares I have at home.
[05:11] <newlyparted> i already installed 8.1 i belive. and works fine... now i want 10.04.... i have it in a wubi install next to windows.. im about to move it to the "linux drive" partition and add a grub for it
[05:11] <edbian> RudyValencia, Then you would run the scripts manually
[05:11] <newlyparted> is that possible?
[05:11] <RudyValencia> I have autofs installed.
[05:12] <bazhang> newlyparted, wubi? why not a regular dual boot?
[05:12] <edbian> RudyValencia, I don't know what that does
[05:12] <RudyValencia> It's supposed to mount the shares when you request a certain directory
[05:12] <newlyparted> i dont like the wubi install thing.. just want a straight up clean grub and drive..
[05:12] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  you can't easily 'move' an install from wubi to a real parition, probably easier to do a fresh install
[05:12] <kc8pxy> RudyValencia:  i'd put them in fstab, and noauto them,  then have a script run on boot, to check if the vpn came up, and if not,  fail to mount those shares.
[05:12] <edbian> RudyValencia, eh, I don't think you really need it in this case.
[05:12] <RudyValencia> I don't know scripting
[05:13] <bazhang> newlyparted, the easiest way is fresh install Ubuntu, it will include Windows in the grub2 list
[05:13] <RudyValencia> Also, if I put them in fstab, when I shut down it takes a long time and gives me an error:
[05:13] <RudyValencia> "CIFS VFS: no response for cmd 50 mid [varying #]"
[05:13] <zcat[1]> RudyValencia:  &
[05:13] <bnagy> kc8pxy: we're all on the same page, just working on how to reliably detect the conditions where the shares should be mounted
[05:13] <RudyValencia> several times for each share
[05:13] <paddymelon> bitspyder.net
[05:13] <bazhang> paddymelon, ??
[05:14] <newlyparted> my grub has two windows entries.. only the second one works?
[05:14] <edbian> RudyValencia, My suggestion is to make 2 scripts.    They both mount the shares but they do it in different ways.  If you'd like to try this I can help you write the script.
[05:14] <kc8pxy> RudyValencia: scripting is a vital linux skill IMO. sorta like makign fire is a wilderness survival skill..    you can make do w/o it,  but life is a lot more comfortable if you learn it :)
[05:14] <newlyparted> the first starts some gateway recovery thing?
[05:14] <zcat[1]> RudyValencia:  put '&' at the end of the line where filesystems get mounted, that'll put it in the background so you don't have to wait while it fails
[05:14] <edbian> RudyValencia, If you don't run either script than the shares simply aren't mounted
[05:14] <Zoffix> Hey all, all the icons from my desktop are gone and nothing happens when I right click on it. I remember running some gnome-*something* program to fix this... anyone has a clue on what that program might be?
[05:14] <RudyValencia> Windows can handle it easily, why can't Linux?
[05:14] <edbian> RudyValencia, You could even make launchers for them (icons in the panel or on the desktop)
[05:15] <edbian> Zoffix, nautilus&
[05:15] <edbian> Zoffix, or reboot
[05:15] <newlyparted> sooo. all my hard work in setting up ubuntu 10.04 is lost?
[05:15] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  fairly much
[05:15] <RudyValencia> This lappy is too old for any recent Windows version so I want to continue using it on Linux
[05:15] <bnagy> RudyValencia: Windows handles it by constantly spamming every network you ever connect to with WINS traffic
[05:15] <Zoffix> edbian, I don't wanna reboot, and nautilus only starts the file manager and not the desktop.
[05:15] <edbian> RudyValencia, Linux can, in fact there are multiple ways to do it, we're just deciding which way is best / what you want.
[05:15] <kc8pxy> RudyValencia:  what do you mean, handle it?   and linux can..  you just need a lttle automation.  just like windows would.
[05:15] <newlyparted> does linux use a registry..
[05:15] <RudyValencia> I've found a method
[05:15] <edbian> Zoffix, Really?  nautilus is what draws the icons on the desktop and lets you right click.  Did it not work?
[05:16] <kc8pxy> newlyparted: not in the windows sense of the word, i don;t think so
[05:16] <edbian> RudyValencia, So you don't want help anymore?
[05:16] <RudyValencia> (autofs, via http://www.howtoforge.com/accessing_windows_or_samba_shares_using_autofs )
[05:16] <RudyValencia> no
[05:16] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can anyone tell me how to get an shared Internet connection working with Ubuntu to a Roku set-top box?  I had it working before, but an update in the past week borked it,  and now I can't set up an outgoing from my output Ethernet card.  I tried looking at the Howto Instructions, but they didn't help
[05:16] <RudyValencia> I can't figure out why that's not working
[05:16] <RudyValencia> I get an error when I try to use it per the directions there
[05:16] <edbian> Zoffix, maybe killall nautilus and then try it again?
[05:16] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  no, configuration is mostly in /etc .. although there's gconf which is registry-like and stores all the gnome-related config
[05:16] <Zoffix> edbian, worked now! Thanks.
[05:16] <edbian> Zoffix, no problem!
[05:16] <edbian> Zoffix, glad I could help
[05:16] <Zoffix> :)
[05:17] <newlyparted> i think ill try... if it doesnt work ill just erase it and put a fresh one in...... can i add a grub entry??
[05:17] <edbian> zcat[1], newlyparted system wide configuration is in /etc.  User specific settings are in hidden folders in your home folder
[05:17] <bazhang> newlyparted, a fresh install will do it for you
[05:17]  * RudyValencia checks the daemon.log to get the exact textx
[05:17] <kc8pxy> is there anyone who knows how to rip packages viciously out of apt-get??  trying to do it nicely isn't working.
[05:17] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  copy the filesystem over then reinstall grub from the !grub2 info
[05:18] <xpurple> I keep getting the error "resolivng host..." when I browse.  Also, any hostname lookups take forever.  Any ideas?
[05:18] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  also you'll need to fix up the UUID entries in /etc/fstab
[05:18] <edbian> xpurple, well your dns is lousy ;)
[05:18] <xpurple> Heh
[05:18] <edbian> xpurple, what dns are you using?
[05:18] <xpurple> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:18] <newlyparted> what will i be looking to fix zcat
[05:18] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl,  just right click on the network manager applet, and click on edit connections
[05:19] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: ok, what next?
[05:19] <RudyValencia> I keep getting "update_negative_cache: key "myserver" not found in map." when I try to access the /cifs/myserver/shared directory
[05:19] <xpurple> I also use <IP_ADDRESS> for a backup.
[05:19] <edbian> xpurple, it works ok for me
[05:19] <xpurple> Yeah
[05:19] <newlyparted> ill look when i get there... and probobly end up here again.. ;)
[05:19] <edbian> xpurple, 62 msec
[05:19] <xpurple> It's something local because it works when I go elsewhere.
[05:19] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl,  click on the wireless tab, and edit
[05:19] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  pastebin your fstab and the output of fdisk -l from the live CD, we'll figure out what you need to do
[05:19] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: I don't have a wireless card
[05:19] <edbian> xpurple, That other one is even better
[05:19] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: be your own dns caching machine.. dnsmasq https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[05:19] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: I have two Ethernet cards
[05:19] <RudyValencia> I give up
[05:19] <xpurple> Hmm
[05:20] <edbian> xpurple, IDK, try google's just to make sure?  It's supposed to be really fast.  <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:20] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl,  and what you want to do is like bridge the connection ?
[05:20] <xpurple> Ok
[05:20] <xpurple> Switching now
[05:20] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: I guess that's what you call it when you pass the Internet through one computer for a second device, so yeah
[05:20] <xpurple> Do I have to drop the interface for the new server to take effect?  Changed /etc/resolv.conf
[05:20] <edbian> xpurple, It was terrible for me! 1526msec
[05:20] <edbian> xpurple, nope
[05:20] <newlyparted> be back in ten...
[05:21] <edbian> xpurple, comment out /etc/resolv.conf and see for yourself!
[05:21] <zer0t0xic> jdb,  okay well edit the ethernet thats connected to the internet
[05:21] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: but I can't for some reason access the second Ethernet card or set up a connection for it
[05:21] <newlyparted> need to reboot into my wubi linux... get on here and start copyin to usb
[05:21] <xpurple> Heh
[05:21] <xpurple> Resolving host still takes a while.
[05:21] <edbian> xpurple, IDK.  Very odd.
[05:21] <xpurple> Yeah
[05:21] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl,  click on wired tab, and edit eth0
[05:21] <edbian> xpurple, Do you know how to use dig ?
[05:21] <xpurple> Yes
[05:22] <newlyparted> cant access the files from windows 7 so ill be back
[05:22] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: possibly disable ipv6 ?
[05:22] <newlyparted> thanks
[05:22] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: eth0 is the one plugged in to the Internet, right?
[05:22] <xpurple> My wife's lappy does it as well and she has vista.
[05:22] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl, yes and windows should pops up, and click on IPv4 Settings tab
[05:22] <edbian> xpurple, So it isn't OS dependent problem?  It must be your network / ISP
[05:22] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  boot into wubi, make a filesystem in the free space and mount it (eg /media/disk) then copy everything over as root cp -ax /* /media/disk/
[05:22] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: ok, what next?
[05:22] <xpurple> Now, my network setup.  Cable modem into an AP.  Then a two block wireless link into a repeater running dd-wrt.  Then wireless here.
[05:23] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl, change the method to Shared to other computers
[05:23] <edbian> xpurple, What is a two block wireless link?
[05:23] <xpurple> edbian: I agree.
[05:23] <zcat[1]> newlyparted:  that should get you halfway there, then we just need to fix up fstab and reinstall grub2
[05:23] <xpurple> edbian: A very long wireless link.  802.11b
[05:23] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: ok, done.  What next?
[05:23] <edbian> xpurple, I see
[05:23] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl, click apply
[05:23] <edbian> xpurple, yeah, I mean, it's gotta be your ISP
[05:24] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: of course, I mean after that
[05:24] <xpurple> Not my local setup?
[05:24] <bnagy> xpurple: if you ping and traceroute to the DNS servers, do the latencies look ok?
[05:24] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl, and go back to the Network Manager Applet and just click connect on the second etherenet that wasnt connected to internet
[05:24] <xpurple> Yes
[05:24] <zcat[1]> <IP_ADDRESS> FTW!
[05:24] <edbian> xpurple, It could be but I doubt it
[05:24] <edbian> zcat[1], openDNS for the win
[05:25] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: there is no second entry except Auto Ethernet, and that's listed under Eth0 in nm-applet
[05:25] <xpurple> Thank you.
[05:25] <zcat[1]> openDNS fails ..
[05:25] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl,okay, whats listed under Wired ?
[05:25] <jdsbluedevl> Auto Ethernet and Auto eth0
[05:25] <bnagy> xpurple: ok, do manual lookups with dig 'feel' normal speed?
[05:26] <xpurple> Yes
[05:26] <bnagy> xpurple: ok, does a wget work at normal speed? :)
[05:26] <xpurple> Instant.
[05:26] <jdsbluedevl> Auto Ethernet is listed under Eth0 under the nm-applet icon
[05:26] <xpurple> Yes
[05:26] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl,okay can you plz do iwconfig on terminal, and pastebin the output that comes up
[05:27] <bnagy> xpurple: uh you want to try those digs with some site you haven't looked up before, to be sure
[05:27] <xpurple> Yeah
[05:27] <xpurple> Doing that.
[05:27] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/445427
[05:27] <edbian> xpurple, I suspect your ISP is doing something with un-established connections on port 80 ;)
[05:28] <xpurple> Hmm
[05:28] <Theo> Anybody help me get a cd-drive working?
[05:28] <xpurple> Charter
[05:28] <xpurple> Can I get them to fix that?
[05:28] <xpurple> Or will they just brush me off?
[05:28] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl, which device you useing to connect to interne now, eth2, or eth0 ?
[05:28] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: eth0
[05:28] <xpurple> Also, the other issue I run into is my ssh connections die randomly.
[05:28] <callowayj> "We don't support Linux. . . "
[05:28] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl, is eth2 listed under Wired on the NM applet ?
[05:29] <callowayj> that's what I get out of ATT anyway
[05:29] <xpurple> :(
[05:29] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: under nm-applet, no mention of eth2, but mention of a second card
[05:29] <xpurple> I'll call them and find out.
[05:30] <zer0t0xic> jdsbluedevl, is eth2 listed under Wired on the NM applet ?
[05:30] <xpurple> Worst tey can do is shrug me off.
[05:30] <edbian> xpurple, yep
[05:30] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: there is NO eth2 period, but there is a second card listed
[05:30] <edbian> xpurple, inspire some fear in the hearts of the internet gate-keepers!
[05:30] <callowayj> well, with ATT you get people in India if you call this late at night
[05:30] <scunizi> xpurple: set apache to port 8080 and open a free account with dyndns.com, pick a domain that can be forwarded to you
[05:30] <{g}> Hello! Anybody here who installed Flashplayer 10.1?
[05:30] <callowayj> it would be interesting to see what is in thier script to say when they hear "Linux"
[05:31] <edbian> scunizi, He's not running a web server....
[05:31] <xpurple> scunizi: Tempting, but a lot of trouble.
[05:31] <xpurple> I am, but not here.
[05:31] <xpurple> linode for the win!
[05:31] <edbian> callowayj, xpurple perhaps you want to document this for comedy's sake
[05:31] <Theo> Anybody help me get a cd-drive working?
[05:31] <scunizi> edbian: what's he running?
[05:31] <Bookman> I'm trying to run a java game from here http://domination.sourceforge.net/download.shtml and I've never tried running a .jar file before.  I'm not sure how to do that.
[05:31] <zer0t0xic> !network
[05:31] <edbian> scunizi, I think he said he is..  He just noticed slow name resolving on his web browser
[05:31] <jdsbluedevl> no
[05:32] <xpurple> On my client
[05:32] <callowayj> flash player: install the restricted extras
[05:32] <xpurple> Not server end.
[05:32] <callowayj> you'll get flash
[05:32] <scunizi> edbian: ah.
[05:32] <zcat[1]> !jre
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  clarify the exact problem to the channel.
[05:32] <scunizi> xpurple: you might change your dns servers to the ones listed on opendns..
[05:32] <jdsbluedevl> oops
[05:32] <xpurple> scunizi: And it does it on my wife's vista lappy as well, so it's not local to my workstation.
[05:32] <xpurple> scunizi: I just switched to google and no real change.
[05:33] <scunizi> xpurple: on the router or on your machine?
[05:33] <Bobrobyn> Does anyone know if there's a way to view all the files opened in the last like, 2 hours?  (Is there a file history?)
[05:33] <xpurple> machine
[05:33] <edbian> scunizi, tried that
[05:33] <xpurple> let me try lookups on the router
[05:33] <xpurple> from the router
[05:33] <zcat[1]> Bobrobyn:  places > recent documents
[05:33] <scunizi> edbian: great minds think alike
[05:33] <zcat[1]> Bobrobyn:  also it's in .recently-used.xbel
[05:33] <xpurple> Hmm, instant lookups.
[05:34] <edbian> scunizi, Apparently so do mediocre minds
[05:34] <bnagy> xpurple: if a standard wget works then I think it's probably 'wacky browser stuff' like maybe you're being transparently proxied or something
[05:34] <inktri> how can i stop disable wireless under networkmanager with the command line?
[05:34] <xpurple> I do have NAT running.
[05:34] <inktri> how can i disable wireless under NetworkManager with the command line?
[05:34] <xpurple> And then I have the other AP running my repeater in DMZ mode.
[05:34] <xpurple> To avoid double NAT.
[05:35] <Theo> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to write an iso to a CD, but my CD-drive isn't showing up in nautilus. I could appreciate help on a) finding out how I can tell whether or not the drive is even being detected and b) how to mount the drive from there if it is being detected.
[05:35] <bnagy> none of that should matter at this level
[05:35] <bnagy> (and double NAT is fine)
[05:35] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: find anything yet?
[05:35] <xpurple> It causes some issues.
[05:35] <xpurple> But not like this.
[05:35]  * uBen is cool
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  You dont mount a cd thats empty/not containing a disk with no data on it.  Fire up the cd burning software you like and burn that data to the disk.
[05:35] <callowayj> look in /media and see if it shows up there
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  pop in a data disk.. and see if it shows up.
[05:37] <edbian> Theo, lshw -class disk
[05:37] <Theo> Alright, hang on
[05:38] <xpurple> On the phone with a tech now.
[05:38] <callowayj> pruple: what kind of accent does he have?
[05:38] <inktri> how can i kill all processes with a specific name... ps -e | grep airmon-ng ... and then what?
[05:38] <xpurple> English.
[05:38] <xpurple> American
[05:38] <callowayj> I'm impressed
[05:38] <xpurple> He's local, as in a few states away.
[05:38] <xpurple> I have charter buisness.
[05:39] <callowayj> double impressed
[05:39] <edbian> inktri, well you could kill arimon-ng's pid  or you can killall arimon-ng
[05:39] <xpurple> I do webhosting.
[05:39] <igoryonya> is there some command line or gui utility that allows to paste a certain data inside of a file. For example. I have some big file, say 1Gb, where I need to replace one spot somewhere in the middle of it (at a specified offset in bytes) with some other file's contents. For example: somePasteUtil hugeFile.bin --pasteOffset=358989098 pasteFile.bin
[05:39] <Bookman> I have openjdk installed and it will not open the .jar file.
[05:39] <linux> MacBook Running Ubuntu (Linux) i looked at this on youtube i think thats so cool running linux on apple
[05:40] <edbian> linux, Isn't linux great?
[05:40] <Theo> Dr_Willis: Nothing shows up. Again, I'm not trying to get the CD itself to be mounted. I'm pretty sure the drive isn't being detected at all
[05:40] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: are you there?
[05:40] <xpurple> edbian: For years I ran linux on sun hardware.
[05:40] <linux> it's getting there
[05:40] <edbian> Theo, sudo lshw -class disk
[05:40] <xpurple> Much nicer than SunOS
[05:40] <edbian> Theo, That shows if the system even sees it
[05:40] <callowayj> linux: i am too!
[05:40] <Theo> edbian: Ok, hold on
[05:40] <Bookman> Maybe .jar files and not for Linux, just Windows?
[05:40] <edbian> xpurple, Oh yeah?  I've never tried SunOS
[05:40] <xpurple> It's fine, just diffrent.
[05:41] <edbian> Bookman, No no, you def can run .jar files on linux
[05:41] <edbian> Bookman, The point of java is that it is platform independent.  Hence the whole stupid java virutal machine
[05:41] <xpurple> NetBSD works better on the older suns though.
[05:41] <edbian> Bookman, or JRE (jave runtime envo)
[05:41] <Bookman> edbian, I have openjdk
[05:41] <Theo> edbian: http://pastebin.com/zWspyirE
[05:42] <edbian> Bookman, That's the java develpment kit which should have the jre
[05:42] <edbian> Bookman, I'm not sure how to fix it.  I just wanted to let you know it's def. possibly
[05:42] <edbian> Theo, I see it, don't you?
[05:42] <linux> wouldn't it make apple mad over their liscensing agreement
[05:42] <cow_jmblo> aii
[05:42] <Bookman> edbian, ok, if anyone knows how, it would be great to learn.
[05:42] <scunizi> edbian: yea.. java *should* be platform independant but it depends on how it's implimented.. there are some work sites I have that are java based that choke when I'm on linux.. I think they browser/OS check and if it's not win or mac it errors out.. :(
[05:42] <edbian> Theo, Thank you for pastebining though :)
[05:43] <edbian> scunizi, ha ha.  I hope they don't!
[05:43] <Theo> edbian: Yes, what needs to be done from here? Because when I try to write to a cd, it doesn't detect a CD to write to
[05:43] <linux> i want an apple to run ubuntu but i don't have an apple yet
[05:43] <xpurple> dnsmasq may be a quick fix.
[05:44] <edbian> Theo, I had a drive once that wouldn't recognize blank cd's  It was extremely annoying.  Can you confirm that it can read a normal CD?  Just an audio cd or anything?
[05:44] <scunizi> edbian: they must.. they actually make mac users connect via citrix .. TO A JAVA APP.. weird
[05:44] <edbian> scunizi, Odd
[05:44] <Theo> edbian: When I had XP installed, it was capable of recognizing blanks, if that's any help
[05:44] <callowayj> edbian: not all apps are written to be cross plaform; at work we have some app hosted by ibm for doing expense reports; it only works in IE; we use Citrix for it
[05:45] <Theo> edbian: But lemme check here real quick anyway
[05:45] <edbian> Theo, It was the linux driver that didn't recognize blanks.  Sorry I was unclear
[05:45] <jdsbluedevl> zer0t0xic: are you still here?
[05:45] <edbian> callowayj, java apps?
[05:45] <Bookman> Ok, so for .jar files to work with Linux, they should be written specifically for Linux?
[05:45] <xpurple> I got brushed off.
[05:45] <callowayj> edbian: yes; a web applet;
[05:45] <edbian> Why OH WHY would anybody purposefully make a java app platform dependent!?!?
[05:46] <xpurple> But he did test the "modem" to make sure it was fine.
[05:46] <xpurple> edbian: It happens all the time.
[05:46]  * xpurple installs dnsmasq
[05:46] <igoryonya> is there some command line or gui utility that allows to paste a certain data inside of a file. For example. I have some big file, say 1Gb, where I need to replace one spot somewhere in the middle of it (at a specified offset in bytes) with some other file's contents. For example: somePasteUtil hugeFile.bin --pasteOffset=358989098 pasteFile.bin
[05:47] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: i have also disabled ipv6 and saw increased speeds
[05:47] <edbian> Bookman, no.  They should be written platform ind.  What the people are brining up here is people that have written their app in a nasty way.  It actually checks the host OS and performs poorly if on a certain OS
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> igoryonya:  some creative use of head/tail and output redirection can proberly do it.
[05:47] <igoryonya> Dr_Willis: thanx
[05:47] <edbian> Bookman, That is not the intention of Java or, dare I say, most java developers
[05:48] <Theo> edbian: I put in a cd with music and a cd with pictures and whatnot in and it isn't pulling up either
[05:48] <toolbear>  hi.  how to determine the dependencies of a *.deb archive?
[05:48] <edbian> Theo, Even if you double click?  Nothing happens?
[05:48] <Bookman> edbian, So I'm assuming that ubuntu just does not have the correct drivers to run this one particular program.
[05:48] <Theo> edbian: double-click what? It doesn't even show up
[05:49] <edbian> Bookman, drivers run hardware.  In linux they're called kernel modules
[05:49] <scunizi> edbian: Bookman perhaps they check the OS and disable all but win platforms... then "sell" the citrix service to the business to allow their mac users access.
[05:49] <edbian> Theo, In Places -> computer you should see your disk drive.    I use DHCP here.  How do I get it to use <IP_ADDRESS> by default?  If I edit /etc/resolv.conf it will eventually be reset back.
[05:49] <Theo> edbian: This is what I've been saying from the beginning. The drive doesn't show up
[05:50] <desiderius> I am new to the lunix thing wat is a ubanto?
[05:50] <bazhang> !ubuntu | desiderius
[05:50] <edbian> xpurple,  cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:50] <scunizi> xpurple: don't use network manager
[05:50] <edbian> Theo, Mmm, that is odd...  Do you have an entry for it in /etc/fstab?
[05:50] <edbian> xpurple, minus the cat of course ;)
[05:51] <xpurple> Hmm
[05:51] <edbian> xpurple, Near the top of the file: prepend domain-name-servers
[05:51] <xpurple> Ahh!
[05:51] <kostasuse> toolbear, apt-cache show package
[05:51] <edbian> xpurple, Got it?
[05:51] <xpurple> Ok, didn't know that it would do that.
[05:51] <xpurple> Yes
[05:51] <desiderius> Y'all should use Plan 9 Unix. Its well better than this linux thing :P
[05:51] <CountDuckula> lol
[05:51] <bazhang> desiderius, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:51] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[05:51] <toolbear> kostasuse: thanks, but that doesn't work for packages that are not installed or in your repository list
[05:51] <xpurple> bastid_raZor: Thanks
[05:51] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can anyone tell me how to get an shared Internet connection working with Ubuntu to a Roku set-top box?  I had it working before, but an update in the past week borked it,  and now I can't set up an outgoing from my output Ethernet card.  I tried looking at the Howto Instructions, but they didn't help
[05:52] <Random832> plan 9 isn't unix
[05:52] <n8ofsp8ds> heys im thinking of using ubuntu 10.04 first time using linux easy to use ?
[05:52] <Theo> edbian: http://pastebin.com/jQxmj1TT That is what's in the fstab document. If you're asking for a folder, I don't even have one
[05:52] <kostasuse> toolbear, I see what you mean
[05:52] <xpurple> Seems bettter for the moment.
[05:52] <Bookman> Ok, all I wanted was a simple, good version of the game Risk for Ubuntu.....
[05:52] <xpurple> Thank you all for your help;.
[05:52] <edbian> Theo, no no, I didn't end in a / so I'm talking about a file  /etc/fstab/  woudl be a folder (it doesn't exist)
[05:53] <edbian> Theo, Well I think we have found our problem!  You're missing the entry for your CD drive.
[05:53] <Theo> edbian: Alright! At least now I know the problem
[05:53] <anna> hello
[05:53] <kb3gtn> Question: when you apt-get install a package it shows a list of packages it will install. I noticed that some of the packages have a {a} on the end.  What does the {a} mean?
[05:53] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: 2nd page hits will be faster.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  i dont see a entry for my optical drive in my fstab and it works...
[05:53] <xpurple> bastid_raZor: Yeah
[05:54] <xpurple> bastid_raZor: I will still have the same problem, but only once.
[05:54] <hufx> OMG so full of NooBs
[05:54] <xpurple> bastid_raZor: Do you know if the cache will survive reboots?
[05:54] <edbian> Dr_Willis, Really?  I'm on Debian (which is older) so I have one.  Do I not need one?
[05:54] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: correct. and no, my cache does not survive
[05:54] <pres> hola buen dia
[05:54] <xpurple> Ahh, poo.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  i think one has not been needed for ages with gnomes automounting features.. of course a fstab entry is not needed for a cd buring software. It would look at the /dev/XXX entries
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  perhaos /dev/sr0 is wrong, or  /dev/cdrom
[05:54] <pres> aaaa
[05:55] <pres> alguien me lee?
[05:55] <bullgard_> '~$ route' returns an empty Kernel IP routing table. Also after a computer restart. Yesterday this computer had a normal LAN and Internet access. How to troubleshoot?
[05:55] <chalcedony> Dr_Willis, nice to see you
[05:55] <mneptok> Bookman: try TEG
[05:55] <bullgard_> pres: Si.
[05:55] <mneptok> pres: Ingles solamente aqui, pf
[05:55] <pres> solo ingles?
[05:56] <mneptok> pres: yes
[05:56] <pres> como entro en un canal en español, soy nuevo
[05:56] <edbian> Dr_Willis, What would it matter what /dev/XXX it was called?  How could you even tell?  with these new combo drives it's likely he'll have a /dev/dvd /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw  etc etc all pointing to the same device
[05:56] <mneptok> !es | pres
[05:56] <bullgard_> !es | pres
[05:56] <pres> ok ubottu gracias
[05:57] <wildbat> is there something for echo cancelling for the internal mic? ~ i got big echo while doing voice chatting.
[05:57] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: http://www.unbound.net/index.html i've been reading up on this and it seems promising. i have yet to implement it
[05:57] <Theo> edbian: All the folders you and Dr_Willis just named I don't have
[05:57] <Bookman> mneptok, Thanks!  Trying it now.
[05:57] <bullgard_> wildbat: Your telephony program should provide that.
[05:57] <scunizi> wildbat: nope.. turn the volume down
[05:57] <mneptok> Bookman: np
[05:57] <chalcedony> i'm trying to scp some pictures from my husband's computer. i can ssh but i forgot how to get them. can someone please remind me?
[05:57] <xpurple> bastid_raZor: Very nice.
[05:58] <santosh> hi
[05:58] <xpurple> chalcedony: scp file user@:~/
[05:58] <bnagy> chalcedony: scp me@husband.computer:/dir/of/photos /dir/on/my/comp
[05:58] <owen1> how to change to dvorak from the termainal?
[05:58] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can anyone tell me how to get an shared Internet connection working with Ubuntu to a Roku set-top box?  I had it working before, but an update in the past week borked it,  and now I can't set up an outgoing from my output Ethernet card.  I tried looking at the Howto Instructions, but they didn't help
[05:59] <edbian> Theo, ha ha.  You don't have a /dev/cdrom  file?
[05:59] <chalcedony> thanks xpurple bnagy -- looking
[05:59] <bullgard_> owen1: System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layouts
[05:59] <santosh> Connect to ethernet, open hardware drivers & activate STA/BC4 drivers, u will get internet
[06:00] <chalcedony> how do i get out of ssh?
[06:00] <edbian> chalcedony, exit
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  is there a /dev/sr0  ?
[06:00] <bnagy> type exit, or hit enter twice followed by ~.
[06:00] <Theo> edbian: no...oh wait! Yes!...I thought you were talking about a folder. I didn't see the forward slash, or lack thereof
[06:00] <bullgard_> chalcedony: type exit
[06:00] <edbian> Theo, :)
[06:00] <chalcedony> ahh ty
[06:00] <edbian> Theo, you can see what they point to using ls -l
[06:00] <edbian> chalcedony, no prob
[06:00] <Theo> Yes, I see both
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  the /dev/cdrom and other /dev/XXX things mentioned should be pointing to /dev/sr0 (at least they are here)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis>  ls -l /dev/cdrom
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2010-06-06 00:11 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[06:01] <Theo> Dr_Willis: I'm unable to open either, is that normal?
[06:01] <bnagy> bullgard_: you still have your network problem?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  Open? Just look st the listing...
[06:02] <bullgard_> bnagy: Yes.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> You dont 'open' /dev/XXX stuff with the file manager. :)
[06:02] <bnagy> bullgard_: is there an interface up?
[06:02] <spezticle> could somebody recomend something to install for ubuntu-server to control cooling fan speeds?
[06:02] <edbian> Theo, Dr_Willis Good luck!
[06:02] <edbian> exit
[06:02] <Nige> !ATI
[06:03] <Theo> Dr_Willis: Can I just get my CD-Drive to work? :(
[06:03] <bullgard_> bnagy '~$ ifconfig' lists the interfaces eth0, lo and wlan0.
[06:03] <bnagy> ok that looks ok - which one is supposed to work for internet?
[06:03] <bullgard_> bnagy: eth0
[06:04] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: unbound is in the repository.. very interesting
[06:04] <bnagy> bullgard_: can you ping the address of your gateway? Maybe there's just no router configured
[06:04] <bnagy> s/router/route
[06:05] <owen1> any video editing app that allows addding text and transitions>
[06:05] <owen1> ?
[06:05] <owen1> (with nice UI)
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  err..  want me to wave a magical wand?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  /dev/sr0 does or does not exist?
[06:06] <bazhang> owen1, handbrake iirc
[06:06] <ZachK_> owen1: for what exactly? Just general video editing?
[06:06] <ZachK_> welcome militant
[06:06] <bazhang> or perhaps pitivi
[06:06] <banker247> anyone here familiar with wine?
[06:06] <ZachK_> banker247: a little
[06:06] <bullgard_> bnagy: '~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>; connect: Network is unreachable.'
[06:06] <mawst> pitivi sucks.
[06:06] <mawst> Sorry.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | banker247
[06:06] <MTecknology> !ask | bullgard_
[06:06] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can anyone tell me how to get an shared Internet connection working with Ubuntu to a Roku set-top box?  I had it working before, but an update in the past week borked it,  and now I can't set up an outgoing from my output Ethernet card.  I tried looking at the Howto Instructions, but they didn't help
[06:06] <mawst> owen1, I highly suggest you try kdenlive.
[06:06] <banker247> zachK is performance inherently going to be crappy?
[06:06] <militant> hiya.  curious, anyone know if the latest release has packet injection enabled on intel 4965b/g and 4965b/g/n cards?
[06:06] <militant> hi ZachK_
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> banker247:  with wine - it depends on the game.
[06:07] <bnagy> bullgard_: sudo mii-tool and see if the interface has link?
[06:07] <bullgard_> MTecknology: 'Stop talking nonsense.
[06:07] <mawst> owen1, Text & Transitions = kdenlive, everything else out there falls short. If you need to cut paste etc or edit clips use avidemux first.
[06:07] <banker247> dr_willis i'm trying to play mount n blade.. i can play it but it is VERY choppy compared to when i used to run it in windows..
[06:07] <ZachK_> banker247: what are you using Wine for? A game or a app
[06:07] <owen1> ZachK_: add a few videos together + images + audio + some text and transitions (similar to movie maker)
[06:07] <Theo> Dr_Willis: I wouldn't mind if you waved a magic wand. It's the thought that counts, hahaha. Also, yes, the file "sr0" does exist
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> banker247:  and you have checked the wine app databae for potential tweaks/tips?
[06:08] <banker247> i'm thinking its because i dont have correct settings as my hardware is more than capable of running it
[06:08] <bastid_raZor> xpurple: http://library.linode.com/networking/dns-guides/unbound-dns-resolver-ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[06:08] <ZachK_> banker247: ok well you gotta remember that you are using a Windows Emulater of sorts....it's not Windows by any means
[06:08] <owen1> mawst: thanks
[06:08] <mawst> np
[06:08] <owen1> bazhang: i'll look at handbrake and kdenlife
[06:08] <owen1> live
[06:08] <banker247> it just seems like my graphics card isn't pushing like it used to hehe.. do you have to install seperate directx libraries with wine?
[06:08] <airtonix> ZachK_, translation layer, not emulator
[06:08] <bullgard_> bnagy:  The green LED next to the ethernet outlet lights green.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  so you could put in a 'data' disk (not a blank one) and see if you can mount the to some location via a command similer to 'sudo mount /dev/sr0  /media/cdrom'
[06:09] <airtonix> ZachK_, its no more an emulator than win7 is a winxp emulator
[06:09] <bnagy> bullgard_: yeah but can you sudo mii-tool for me anyway?
[06:09] <ZachK_> airtonix: that's what i meant..i knew that! lol
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  assumning /media/cdrom allready exists
[06:09] <goomba5454> Hey everyone.  Quick question.  I downloaded a theme from the Ubuntu software center but I cant find it.  Where would it have saved too?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> goomba5454:  If you installed a package using the package manager. it installed system widwe where its supposed to go,.
[06:09] <airtonix> goomba5454, themes installed by root are in /usr/share/themes
[06:10] <airtonix> goomba5454, if you want to install themes with out root access, put the files in ~/.themes
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> goomba5454:  if its not showing up in the appearance/themes - check the customuize button - it may be its actually a theme 'part' not a complete theme
[06:10] <Theo> Dr_Willis: /media/cdrom does not exist
[06:10] <bullgard_> bnagy:  '~$ sudo mii-tool; eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link up.'
[06:10] <chalcedony> scp still isn't working, http://chalcedony.pastebin.com/bdus2DNj
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  then make the dir.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  sudo mkdir /media/cdrom   then try the mount command i gave
[06:11] <bnagy> bullgard_: ok cool. Do you have any arp entries? it's just 'arp' to check
[06:11] <goomba5454> I'm sorry.  I'm a total newbie and not sure what you're talking about.
[06:11] <bullgard_> bnagy: '~$ arp' does not produce any output.
[06:12] <owen1> mawst: so cut video with avidemux, and edit with audio etc with kdenlive
[06:12] <bnagy> chalcedony: you're trying to copy a directory, either use scp -R or Photos/folder/*
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> !manual | goomba5454
[06:12] <mawst> owen1, right
[06:13] <bnagy> bullgard_: ok, looking like some kind of physical issue... what's the physical network like?
[06:13] <Theo> Dr_Willis: It's shown up!
[06:13] <owen1> mawst: can't i cut it with kdenlive?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  it showed up after you mounted it by hand?
[06:13] <newlyparted> yeah... my wubi install says the file is 8.5 gig or so.. but copys as 16.6... and i dont have permission for lots of files... its hopeless...
[06:14] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can anyone tell me how to get an shared Internet connection working with Ubuntu to a Roku set-top box?  I had it working before, but an update in the past week borked it,  and now I can't set up an outgoing from my output Ethernet card.  I tried looking at the Howto Instructions, but they didn't help
[06:14] <mawst> owen1, not that I am aware of.
[06:14] <bullgard_> bnagy: I am using an Ethernet LAN with an ADSL router.
[06:14] <alexc> is 10.04 supported by Mac PPC?
[06:14] <newlyparted> thanks for the help...
[06:14] <newlyparted> fresh install it is
[06:14] <bnagy> bullgard_: and this is dhcp?
[06:14] <bullgard_> bnagy: Yes.
[06:15] <Theo> Dr_Willis: Yes. In Nautilus it now has "cdrom" in it, as well as at PLACES>COMPUTER
[06:15] <bnagy> bullgard_: hrm I have had weird issues sometimes with routers ignoring dhcp clients when leases expire etc, can you renew your lease? restarting networking should do it I think
[06:15] <amanita> Hi, im trying to install ubuntu with a original cd (shiped by canonical) of 9.10 version, and when i select the option "install ubuntu" the system restarts. The motherboard is a Asrock running a AMD processor. Somebody knows what could be?
[06:17] <amanita> Alexc i think it is. Its just download the PPC version at ubuntu website.
[06:17] <bullgard_> bnagy: How to rea
[06:18] <bullgard_> bnagy: How to restart networking?
[06:18] <bnagy> bullgard_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  well that shows its gnomes 'auto mounting' feature thats having some issues  then. BUt even then.. the cd BURNER software should iof seen the device
[06:18] <bnagy> bullgard_: of just sudo dhclient should also work I think
[06:18] <alexc> i found it in the wiki
[06:18] <Theo> Dr_Willis: Ok, well now I've taken the data disk out, do I apply this same thing to a blank?
[06:19] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can anyone tell me how to get an shared Internet connection working with Ubuntu to a Roku set-top box?  I had it working before, but an update in the past week borked it,  and now I can't set up an outgoing from my output Ethernet card.  I tried looking at the Howto Instructions, but they didn't help
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  you did right click on the cd icon and eject/unmounted?
[06:19] <owen1> how to change to dvorak from the termainal?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Theo:  you DONT mount a blank disk.  That isent logical. :)  the cd burner app burns to the device.
[06:19] <amanita> anyone? x.x
[06:20] <MTecknology> !anyone | amanita
[06:20] <amanita> lol
[06:20] <amanita> i already did my question
[06:20] <Theo> Dr_Willis: I did hit the cd icon and eject, but alright alright! I get it with the blank :|
[06:20] <bullgard_> bnagy: '~$ sudo dhclient brought back 2 lines of my Kernel IP Routing Table. I am still missing the Avahi line.
[06:20] <amanita> "Hi, im trying to install ubuntu with a original cd (shiped by canonical) of 9.10 version, and when i select the option "install ubuntu" the system restarts. The motherboard is a Asrock running a AMD processor. Somebody knows what could be?"
[06:21] <amanita> ¬¬'
[06:21] <bnagy> bullgard_: I don't know what you mean by the Avahi line... can you ping your gateway ip now?
[06:21] <MTecknology> amanita: any chance you tried 10.04 as well?
[06:21] <dmglouis> How do I make the default suspend operation on my computer use s2ram, instead of the usual one (which does not work for me)?
[06:22] <amanita> MTecknology infortunely i dont have the cd for burn, but i also tried with 9.04. It could be some problem with the Amd interface?
[06:22] <cryptide> is there a way to 'group' a set of windows together?
[06:22] <MTecknology> amanita: it could be.. if it breaks with 10.04 too I'd say hardware broken or you should file a bug report
[06:22] <bullgard_> bnagy: '~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>' gives a normal response now.
[06:23] <bnagy> bullgard_: ok, but you don't have a default gateway yet?
[06:23] <thune3> amanita: the 9.10 live-cd can boot ok?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> cryptide:  Compiz has a tab/grouping feature. but i never was ablwe to figure it out
[06:23] <Jordan_U> cryptide: Yes, with the group window plugin for compiz
[06:23] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | cryptide
[06:23] <amanita> thune3 no, it just restarts too.
[06:23] <bnagy> bullgard_: sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> will get you running for now...
[06:23] <cryptide> kthnx... i already have that i'll let ya know
[06:24] <amanita> Mtecknology Ya, im thinking its a bug. The windows was succesfully installed...
[06:24] <shafi> join ##java
[06:24] <bnagy> bullgard_: hm hey you don't have a wrong gateway, do you? can you pastbin the output of netstat -nr or just tell me if there are two routes to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:25] <bullgard_> bnagy: I do have a default gateway. I do have access to my gateway now. --  The only trouble is that I do not have got back Avahi access.
[06:25] <airtonix> amanita, did you try using nopaic nolapic boot options ?
[06:25] <bnagy> bullgard_: ok I don't know what an 'Avahi' is
[06:25] <amanita> airtonix yeap
[06:25] <bullgard_> bnagy afk 5 mins
[06:26] <jdsbluedevl> ok, I can see my question isn't going to be answered tonight.  I guess I'll have to try again tomorrow.  Also, if anyone cares, I set up a thread on Ubuntu Forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502774
[06:27] <Sir_Brizz> has anyone ever seen in 9.10 where the wireless in network manager shows a bunch of garbage for the SSID?
[06:28] <cryptide> Dr_Willis, Jordan_U: does grouping save state after say a reboot?
[06:29] <thune3> amanita: this sounds like your issue, 10.04 may work just fine. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/367699
[06:29] <piyushmishra> I need help my ubuntu has gone mad
[06:29] <bullgard_> bnagy: Avahi is a system which facilitates service discovery on a local network. This means that you can plug your laptop or computer into a network and instantly be able to view other people who you can chat with, find printers to print to or find files being shared. This kind of technology is already found in Apple MacOS X (branded 'Rendezvous', 'Bonjour' and sometimes 'Zeroconf') and is...
[06:29] <bullgard_> ...very convenient. Avahi is mainly based on Lennart Poettering's flexmdns mDNS implementation for Linux which has been discontinued in favour of Avahi.
[06:30] <wildbat> is there something for echo cancelling for the internal mic in device level may be so every programs can have the feature ? ~ i got big echo while doing voice chatting now.
[06:30] <chalcedony> bnagy, i got it! thanks so much :)
[06:30] <amanita> thune3 cheking
[06:30] <amanita> checking*
[06:30] <Jordan_U> cryptide: I think you can setup filters that windows matching certain criteria are always grouped. But just grouping windows by selecting them only lasts as long as the windows are open.
[06:30] <thune3> amanita: of course if that was your problem, 9.10 should have worked so....
[06:30] <cryptide> Jordan_U, ah ok. man this tab feature & animation is dope
[06:30] <Theo> Dr_Willis: So, the default program is having trouble detecting the blank. Do you have another program to recommend I could try? Now that I've narrowed down the problem...
[06:31] <amanita> thune3 yes, i also think this way.
[06:31] <bnagy> chalcedony: np
[06:31] <chalcedony> :)
[06:31] <airtonix> bullgard_, also acts as a de-centralised hostname resolution
[06:31] <piyushmishra> I installed some pre release updates yesterday since then its been hanging and I use git and the Aborting commit due to empty commit message.
[06:31] <piyushmishra> comes up please help me revert those files
[06:32] <bazhang> piyushmishra, pre-release? from where
[06:32] <thune3> amanita: if you have integrated graphics and a graphics card, you could test the workaround to see if that is indeed the problem.
[06:32] <dmglouis> Does anyone know how to run a custom script upon closing of a laptop lid? I tried changing /etc/acpi/lid.sh, but that had no effect. The reason I'm doing this is because while the regular suspend does not work for me (I get a blank screen when resuming), but using s2ram from uswsusp (userspace software suspend) does. Right now, I added s2ram to the sudoers file, so that if I run my own script, my laptop suspends fine. However, I wa
[06:32] <bnagy> bullgard_: um... ok I know nothing about it. If you have arp and ip acess to the hosts involved then that's about where I stop being useful sry
[06:32] <dmglouis> nt it to be automatically called when I close the lid.
[06:32] <piyushmishra> bazhang: the update manager, it has some settings options
[06:32] <tyler_d> so I have a 3ware hw bios, and it comes up as sda1 on install, I don't want my O/S on there, so I choose my single disk which is sdb1 however after it has "completed" the system will not boot, any suggestions?
[06:33] <piyushmishra> bazhang: with that I had updated the latest linux headers and gnome-keyring n some other files too perhaps
[06:33] <bazhang> piyushmishra, you mean the development version? unsupported? backports? please be specific with the exact issue at hand
[06:33] <amanita> thune3 this just occured to me, im using the onboard. Ill try with a graphic card.
[06:33] <bullgard_> bnagy: '~$ netstat -nr' is equivalent to '~$ route' with me. It outputs now all 3 lines as always in the past. Somehow the computer has now found the Avahi route also by itself.
[06:33] <piyushmishra> bazhang : lucid-proposed
[06:34] <bnagy> bullgard_: netstat -nr works on more OSes, which is why I do it that way. You can use either on ubuntu afaik
[06:34] <thune3> amanita: the workaround was just the opposite, removing the pci-e card got it to work for those guys
[06:34] <alexbobp> I'm getting abysmal download rates with apt, how do I find a mirror that doesn't suck?
[06:34] <Jordan_U> tyler_d: Ubuntu's installer has a bug that it always installs grub to the first drive, unless you choose otherwise in the "advanced" option
[06:34] <piyushmishra> bazhang: administration>update manager>settings>updates>lucid-proposed
[06:34] <bazhang> piyushmishra, pastebin the error messages you are getting, if any
[06:35] <bazhang> !pastebin | piyushmishra
[06:35] <amanita> thune3 its a AGP slot
[06:35] <alexbobp> multi-line texts like that factoid?  XD
[06:35] <bnagy> bullgard_: so we win? Happiness?
[06:35] <amanita> thune3 the motherboard is just for test, i apreciated the problem, its interesting. Cant imagine why this is happening.
[06:35] <ripdisk> I'm already running ubuntu but i am trying to install windows on another harddrive, how do i add it to the boot list
[06:35] <tyler_d> Jordan_U: I'm ok with it installing grub on there, it just won't boot after it says its done :s
[06:36] <piyushmishra> bazhang: no error messages only it hangs a lot and gives READ ERROR on boot sometimes and also GIT doesnt wait for me to edit the commit msg before posting out the Aborting commit due to empty commit message. anymore
[06:36] <bullgard_> bnagy: I see. Thank you for explaining. --  Everything works now normally here again. --  I only wonder why the computer did not do 'sudo mii-tool' by itself when I restarted the computer.
[06:36] <alexbobp> ripdisk: the code for it in grub will be "rootnoverify (hd#,#)", with the partition windows is installed to, then "chainloader +1"
[06:36] <tyler_d> Jordan_U: and the raid controller card is not the first or "primary" drive
[06:36] <Jordan_U> tyler_d: Which drive is first in the boot order? Whappens when you try to boot?
[06:36] <alexbobp> ripdisk: edit menu.lst to find the grub things, if you're not using grub 2
[06:36] <bnagy> bullgard_: I think it was likely the dhcp refresh that fixed it. Anyway, \o/
[06:36] <alexbobp> I dunno how to use grub 2
[06:37] <tyler_d> Jordan_U: I think I may have just won.... I enabled the 3ware h/w bios, then changed the boot order from within the bios
[06:37] <bullgard_> bnagy: Ah! Thank you very much for your help.
[06:37] <tyler_d> and we have ignition.... so far
[06:37] <ripdisk> but i am using grub2
[06:37] <Jordan_U> ripdisk: "sudo update-grub" will add a windows entry automagically.
[06:37] <ripdisk> well, i can't even get windows installed
[06:37] <ripdisk> because it loads the setup files and then reboots
[06:37] <ripdisk> and i can't boot from the hdd
[06:37] <alexbobp> ripdisk: well at that point it's pretty much installed
[06:38] <alexbobp> ripdisk: it just does some setup after boot, so update-grub should work
[06:38] <ripdisk> ok
[06:38] <ripdisk> let me try
[06:38] <Jordan_U> ripdisk: ##windows for problems installing windows
[06:38] <alexbobp> Jordan_U: lol, his problem was with grub, not the windows instlaler
[06:38] <tyler_d> Jordan_U: that is frustrating though... should be able to pick your own boot order...
[06:39] <ripdisk> oh ok
[06:39] <ripdisk> it found it
[06:39] <ripdisk> i see that it did
[06:39] <ripdisk> now will it give me an option on boot?
[06:39] <alexbobp> ripdisk: it should
[06:39] <alexbobp> ripdisk: it might say "press esc in the next 3 seconds for menu"
[06:39] <ripdisk> ok well if it doesn't work i'll be back
[06:39] <alexbobp> see ya
[06:39] <Worms> Hi I have USB wireless device TP-Link wn321g. It uses RT73USB module. It is supposed to work out of box as mentioned in ubuntu wiki. I cannot connect to wifi in lucid or Karmic. I am using Ndiswrapper but the performance is not satisfactory. After going in forums I found out that it works out of box in Hardy. I tried with ubuntu intrepid(kernel 2.6.8 i suppose). Ah! It worked out of box. how can I use it with native drivers in lucid?
[06:40] <rabidweezle> Video Chipset: nVidia 8200M G (laptop) - ctrl+alt+f1 does not bring me to a terminal I can read (strange looking frame buffer that is random colors)
[06:40] <alexbobp> well, maybe, I might be gone
[06:40] <Jordan_U> alexbobp: 22:38 < ripdisk> well, i can't even get windows installed
[06:40] <alexbobp> Jordan_U: 00:37:48 < ripdisk> because it loads the setup files and then reboots
[06:40] <alexbobp> Jordan_U: it was a bootloader issue, I assure you
[06:41] <rabidweezle> I know that if I can recompile the kernel manually I can get a working framebuffer (I did in gentoo), but is it needed for ubuntu?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: What GFX card?
[06:42] <rabidweezle> Jordan_U,  Nvidia 8200M G laptop
[06:43] <bnagy> so, I added a bridge interface to one of my servers, and slaved an e1000e interface, but it won't stabilize on boot, keep flapping (physical nic reported as up and down all the time in messages, syslog and kern - anyone got any ideas?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: Well, easiest way to get a full resolution framebuffer is to uninstall the proprietary drivers then. But I assume you want to keep 3D acceleration :)
[06:43] <rabidweezle> Jordan_U, I had a working terminal until I set the console to 1024x768 in the ubuntu control center app (UCC)
[06:44] <newlyparted> i need to know if there is a way to remove a grub entry for windows 7 is there a room to join to ask or would someone here know?
[06:44] <rabidweezle> Jordan_U, exactly
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu Control Center app ? Not seen that befor
[06:45] <airtonix> Dr_Willis, he means the gnome-control-center
[06:45] <rabidweezle> Dr_Willis, I found a PPA on omg!ubuntu!
[06:45] <airtonix> he/shee/it
[06:45] <rabidweezle> airtonix, actually I mean UCC
[06:45] <banker247> anyone play higher end games on linux
[06:45] <krdyt> i was updating from 9.10 and it errored at grub install
[06:45] <Jordan_U> newlyparted: set GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true in /etc/default/grub then "sudo update-grub"
[06:45] <krdyt> any help?
[06:46] <rabidweezle> banker247, I play doom3
[06:46] <airtonix> banker247, i play tetris
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> I play Peggle in Wine. :)
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Steam for Linux - Comming Soon.
[06:46] <bnagy> I play the very latest version of nethack, that's pretty demanding...
[06:46] <gimpexe> banker247 i play warcraft 3, and soon starcraft 2
[06:46] <banker247> gimpexe how is your performance?
[06:47] <gimpexe> banker247, warcraft 3 in -opengl mode is very smooth (60fps +)
[06:47] <gimpexe> on a nvidia 7600 gs
[06:47] <alexbobp> bnagy: the very latest version from 2003?  :P
[06:47] <banker247> gimpexe do you use wine?
[06:48] <alexbobp> wine is awesome
[06:48] <gimpexe> banker247 yes
[06:48] <alexbobp> anything that means I have to boot windows less often is good
[06:48] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: I rarely trust third party configuration scripts like UCC.
[06:48] <gimpexe> banker247 warcraft 3 runs find in version 1.0 of iwne
[06:48] <bnagy> alexbobp: hey, that's modern stuff! You can even get tilesets and stuff for it now... well so I hear, I just play in terminal
[06:48] <banker247> gimpexe i've tried playin ga few games in wine but the perfomance is VERY choppy. i dunno why in my vista it runs blazing fast
[06:48] <banker247> gimpexe i think i'm doin gsomething wrong
[06:48] <rabidweezle> Jordan_U, you know how I can "default" the framebuffer mode back to the old?
[06:48] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg to try to figure out what it did?
[06:48] <alexbobp> bnagy: every time I play it with a tileset I end up kicking fountains
[06:48] <alexbobp> bnagy: it's bad juju
[06:48] <bnagy> I think I just have to accept that nobody knows about bridge interfaces :(
[06:49] <rabidweezle> Jordan_U, sure one moment
[06:49] <gimpexe> banker247 running warcraft 3 in opengl mode should help you out a lot
[06:49] <gimpexe> banker247 try adding -opengl to then end of your warcraft 3 shortcut
[06:49] <bnagy> at least I got some karma helping some people while I waited I guess :/
[06:50] <banker247> tell gimpexe have you heard of mount  n blade?
[06:50] <rabidweezle> rabidweezle@RedQueen:~$ pastebinit /etc/default/grub
[06:50] <rabidweezle> http://pastebin.com/i4MAQRW0
[06:50] <psiforce_> is there anyway to set the block size of a tmpfs partition? I am using it to store lots of very small files and they all seem to take 4k
[06:50] <gimpexe> banker247 yes, i used to play it lots. ive heard latest version has multiplayer
[06:51] <banker247> tell gimpexe can you get it to run in in ubuntu? thats pretty much the only game i play right now not much gamin lately but i'd love to be able to run it.. it runs flawless in vista
[06:51] <rabidweezle> http://pastebin.com/7wzpXej7
[06:51] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: Remove the "vga=791" from line 10
[06:51] <rabidweezle> k
[06:51] <banker247> tell gimpexe i run it.. and it works and all but its VERY sluggish
[06:52] <rabidweezle> Jordan_U, should I just remove the entire line?
[06:53] <krdyt> while updating from 9,10 to the new version grub-pc errored, should i go on or any tips to fix grub?
[06:53] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: You can, but the line is there by default, (to make it easy to see how to add kernel parameters)
[06:54] <rabidweezle> good idea
[06:54] <rabidweezle> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[06:54] <rabidweezle> then just sudo update-grub?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: Yes
[06:56] <rabidweezle> good, that should fix it
[06:56] <rabidweezle> :)
[06:56] <rabidweezle> thanks Jordan_U
[06:56] <phlak_user> hi
[06:56] <krdyt> Jordan_U, i got major errors on grub-pc install during update
[06:56] <newlyparted> anybody know where to find the info or know how to remove a windows 7 grub entry... i had wubi installled and cant repair my grub..
[06:56] <ma> Hey
[06:56] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle: You're welcome.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> newlyparted:  you are still using WUbi? or using a normal install now?
[06:57] <newlyparted> normal... had to delete wubi instead of uninstall..
[06:57] <krdyt> mainly cant open /dev/sd?/  installing to a partition THIS IS A BAD IDEA
[06:57] <bbq^> newlyparted: you can directly edit grub config
[06:57] <Jordan_U> krdyt: What errors?
[06:58] <bbq^> !grub newlyparted
[06:58] <thune3> psiforce_: it doesn't appear so. unless you are talking tens of thousands of small files i can't imagine it being a problem except maybe on an embedded system.
[06:58] <newlyparted> windows7 grub
[06:58] <newlyparted> thats the problem
[06:58] <ma> When I try to install Ubuntu ( 32 or 64 bit ) I get alot of errors when I restart. And  Ubuntu is not booting. The installation goes as normal, but I get a whole page with the same error. What is this?
[06:58] <ma> anyone knows?
[06:58] <psiforce_> thune3: try over a million
[06:59] <Pyr0> hello
[06:59] <thune3> psiforce_: i see now
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> newlyparted:  theres some guides/forum threads with good info on a lot of that -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275  is one - check   http://delicious.com/dr_willis/grub2  for some others
[06:59] <krdyt> installing blocklists, grub failed to install, unable to identify filesysten on hd2,5 etc Jordan_U
[06:59] <rabidweezle> ma: we need the exact error it spits out to help
[06:59] <bbq^> newlyparted: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[06:59] <newlyparted> thank you
[06:59] <bbq^> oh i see - you mean windows 7 boot loader
[06:59] <bbq^> ?
[07:00] <wildbat> ma, reorganize plz you said install goes normal but there is error of a page ? what error btw?
[07:01]  * rabidweezle reboots to test his terminal
[07:01] <ma> I dont have the error now. But i've gotten Ubuntu installed. But I'm afraid to reinstall it. I think it's something about the bootloader, because I can choose between Win 7 and Ubuntu on startup, but none of them boots.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> ma: What happens when you try to boot Ubuntu?
[07:02] <ma> I get some text.. I dont remember what, but its like hdd, 1 EXT something, but I can't do anything
[07:02] <hasenislamy> hello dear all
[07:02] <FlameTai1> Anyone here able to help me get my Bisual Effects working with a NVidia GeForce 8400 GS 512mb RAM DDR2 video card?
[07:02] <FlameTai1> Visual*
[07:02] <bbq^> ma: is it referring to running fsdk ?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> krdyt: Can you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and when asked what devices to install to , *de*select any partitions, select only the drive itself (like sda, rather than sda1)
[07:03] <ma> Maybe. I don't remember
[07:03] <hasenislamy> i is any body here to help me to use dial in ubuntu?
[07:03] <krdyt> k brb Jordan_U
[07:03] <gonline> hay
[07:03] <dmglouis> FlameTai1:do you have the restricted driver installed?
[07:03] <hasenislamy> i searched for driver but i couldn't find
[07:03] <ma> I tried to google the error, but I couldn't find anything
[07:03] <Jordan_U> krdyt: You will be asked other questions, just leave them at their default (some will be blank, that is normal)
[07:03] <dmglouis> *FlameTai1: Do you have the restricted driver installed?
[07:03] <hasenislamy> it's Dell Latitude D630
[07:04] <wildbat> ma, may be we can't guess your problem then .....
[07:04] <Fudge> hi really simple question about init 3
[07:04] <Guest59582> hello
[07:04] <Guest59582> is anybody on
[07:04] <ma> hmm
[07:04] <Fudge> i chose not to use gdm so removed it, renamed failsafeX to failsafeX-disable. would a better way have just been to init 3 ?
[07:04] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Probably, you mean the propriety driver yes?
[07:04] <hasenislamy> help me with dial in ubuntu
[07:05] <Jordan_U> ma: An exact error message would be very helpfull. Also, what happens when you try to boot windows?
[07:05] <hasenislamy> DIAL UP IN UBUNTU
[07:05] <hasenislamy> is any body here to help me
[07:05] <Jordan_U> !caps | hasenislamy
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> !dialup
[07:05] <Fudge> hasenislamy  be patient someone will ee your question and help
[07:05] <ma> I will try to find the error. When I try to boot Windows, It wont boot. And I get an option to press esc or enter. Both reboots
[07:05] <hasenislamy> no  body is here to answer me
[07:05] <rabidweezle> Jordan_U, glad to see my console again =)
[07:05] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Yes I have the restricted one installed, is there anyway to get a non-restricted one etc etc.?
[07:05] <hasenislamy> oh thanks
[07:05] <hasenislamy> let see
[07:06] <Guest59582> do you all use the backtrack4?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> Guest59582:  no we do not. its not Ubuntu :)
[07:06] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: Alright, so if you go to System > Preferences > Appearance and then the Visual Effects tab, are you able to select normal and extra
[07:06] <dmglouis> ?
[07:06] <Guest59582> does anybody knows how to set backtrack4 with 3d
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> Guest59582:  see the backtrack support channel.
[07:06] <Doonz> Hey guys, Im looking at replacing my failing router. Is there a reccomended linux software router kicking around that you guys would reccomend?
[07:07] <krdyt> Jordan_U,  i have 2 internal drives ive had the whole dual boot time, 1in 2ext HDD that are irrelevant, should i choose the int HDD that ubuntu is installed to?
[07:07] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: I can select them, but they won't enable, the screen flashes a few times then it says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[07:07] <dmglouis> oh ok
[07:07] <bbq^> ma how many harddrives are you using ?
[07:07] <ma> 2. I use 1 for downloaded stuff, and 1 for OS
[07:07] <dartt> can nyone recommend a gud book or website to refresh python
[07:07] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Any ideas?
[07:08] <ma> 500 GB. Right now I only have 200 GB to use for Ubuntu.. I don't really know why
[07:08] <bbq^> ok so are you running Windows and Ubuntu... duel Booting them from the same harddrive ?
[07:08] <bbq^> ok
[07:08] <ma> No
[07:08] <ma> I don't dualboot
[07:08] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: may have something to do with your driver version
[07:08] <qwertyjustin> hi, whats the command line to install the KDE Desktop Environment on ubuntu 10.04?
[07:08] <rabidweezle> dartt, think python (it's a free pdf and html book)
[07:08] <ma> I tried to install Ubuntu When I had Ubuntu installed.
[07:08] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: I have the latest restricted driver I believe, anyway to fix it though?
[07:08] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: have you tried the non-proprietary ones?
[07:09] <alex54> hey everyone.  I shrank my windows partition and now I have 54 gigs of unallocated space.  How would I add this to my ubuntu partition?
[07:09] <ma> And I choose delete and use the whole disk or something when I install Ubuntu
[07:09] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: IDK of any of the non-proprietary ones, would you have any suggestions?
[07:09] <bbq^> Right, well perhaps try reinstalling it and removing existing installs during the install process..
[07:09] <bbq^> hrmm, there goes that idea
[07:09] <KukMan_> hi. I have three keyboard layout. I want to swithing ( by hotkey ) only between two. Third, if I need, I want enable manually, by mouse choosing or special hotkey
[07:09] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Like on how to find some etc.
[07:09] <KukMan_> How can I do this?
[07:09] <qwertyjustin> hi, whats the command line to install the KDE Desktop Environment on ubuntu 10.04?
[07:09] <bbq^> ma is the bootloader on the same drive as the ubuntu install or is there an old bootloader on the other HDD
[07:09] <bazhang> qwertyjustin, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[07:09] <ma> Hmm. I've even taken out the harddrive, and put it in another PC to format it
[07:10] <dmglouis> FlameTai1:I think its called nouveau
[07:10] <qwertyjustin> thanks
[07:10] <ma> the Windows 7 bootloader is on the same drive
[07:10] <Fudge> qwertyjustin  does kubuntu-desktop give you what you want
[07:10] <Jordan_U> krdyt: Yes.
[07:10] <ma> But I dont understand why it's not deleted..
[07:10] <thune3> psiforce_: inelagantly the only thing i can think of is to make a 1-file loopback filesystem inside of tmpfs that has a smaller blocksize.
[07:10] <bbq^> That is more than likely your problem ma
[07:10] <Fudge> oops sorry was bit slow to answwer
[07:10] <qwertyjustin> cheers
[07:10] <bbq^> having 2 on the same drive is not a good idea.
[07:10] <bbq^> Use Grub to select windows or Ubuntu
[07:11] <psiforce_> thune3: was just thinking the same thing myself
[07:11] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Just use the software center to search for it?
[07:11] <ma> Now it works well, I'm running Ubuntu now.. After trying to install 4-5 times
[07:11] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: yea
[07:11] <bbq^> Sweet
[07:11] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: however, all i see there is nouveau-firmware, not that if thats all there is to it
[07:11] <bbq^> I had similar issues a while back when booting from sam drive
[07:11] <psiforce_> thune3: and then just use a light weight filesystem
[07:11] <ma> But I can't understand why the Win 7 bootloader is still on the drive after i've formatted it.. :P
[07:12] <bbq^> bootloader was a pain
[07:12] <bbq^> haha, thats because windows sucks
[07:12] <ma> Hmm
[07:12] <ma> I didn't have that problem in 9.10
[07:12] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: So is that what I need or?
[07:12] <Blue1> ma format doesn't always overwrite the mbr
[07:12] <bbq^> So you're on Lucid now
[07:12] <ma> mbr?
[07:12] <Blue1> i have gone back to 9.10
[07:12] <bbq^> yea mbr usually doesn't get cleaned
[07:12] <Blue1> ma master boot record
[07:12] <ma> what does that mean?
[07:12] <ma> is that the bootloader?
[07:13] <bbq^> the only way to do that is to restore your drive back to factory condition (**risky**) using your manufacturers software, thats if they provide any
[07:13] <Blue1> ma just like it sounds - it is the controlling boot record for the device
[07:13] <krdyt> thanks Jordan_U, i can only reboot and pray :D
[07:13] <bbq^> mbr == Master Boot Record
[07:13] <ma> Hmm, I guess I have to google that
[07:13] <ma> hah
[07:14] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: yea, I think thats it
[07:14] <Jordan_U> krdyt: You're welcome.
[07:14] <LeServal> Hi, I would like to start a terminal tty9 and then to stop that terminal tty9 WITHOUT restarting Ubuntu. I have a tty9.conf in /etc/init which works fine if I reboot - how do I do it without a reboot?
[07:14] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: however, 3D support is pretty shaky with the open source one
[07:14] <Blue1> ma -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
[07:14] <ma> I'm reading it now :)
[07:14] <bbq^> yea ma i am glad you have it working :)
[07:14] <ma> Me too
[07:14]  * bbq^ reckons irssi is pretty sweet compared to x-chat
[07:14] <ma> thanks for your help! :)
[07:14] <niugao> How to study linux!
[07:15] <ma> Bye !
[07:15] <bbq^> np ma =]
[07:15] <bbq^> niugao: Use it
[07:15] <bazhang> !manual | niugao
[07:15] <Jordan_U> krdyt: You're welcome.
[07:15] <Blue1> irssi is simple
[07:15] <bbq^> Blue1: Yea it is and its not intrusive
[07:15] <Blue1> i am lazy and use the irc client that comes with pidgin
[07:15] <bbq^> very minimal
[07:15] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: I installed but it never told me to restart or anything so is that even what I need? lol
[07:15] <niugao> Thank you!
[07:16] <bbq^> ahh right, yea i tried that ages ago - then went to x-chat... Got over the graphical ui
[07:16] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: yea, that doesn't seem right
[07:16] <bbq^> finding irssi to be all i need
[07:16] <Blue1> pidgin is the "debe" programme (does everything but eat)
[07:16] <bbq^> Yea it is great
[07:16] <bbq^> i use it for IM
[07:16] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: usually another video driver requires restart of X and that means restarting or at least logging out and back in
[07:16] <bbq^> found it a little annoying when using multiple channels in IRC though
[07:16] <bbq^> i actually bought x-chat for my windows pc
[07:17] <bbq^> it is a great irc client
[07:17] <bbq^> support them etc
[07:17] <Blue1> bbq^: the trick to using multiple irc channels/servers is to create a unique name for each server
[07:17] <bbq^> Ahh right, well that would have helped Blue1 if i knew that back then :p
[07:17] <thune3> psiforce_: exactly. but not knowing what you are ultimately trying to do... it sounds like a nested hash table is the right tool for the job
[07:17] <Blue1> so on efnet I am one name, on freenode, another
[07:18] <bbq^> yea well i use the same name on most networks... geekshed, freenode and gamesurge
[07:18] <bbq^> anyway time for a feed :)
[07:18] <Blue1> bbq^: i had problems so I just use different names =- confusing but it works
[07:18] <bbq^> Yea it would get confusing, at least pidgin would store your credentials ;)
[07:18] <Jordan_U> bbq^: For irssi "/join -network #channel", and look to the left of the channel name for the network name of the current window.
[07:19] <Blue1> indeed
[07:19] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Didn't work =|
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[07:19] <FloodBot2> Pyr0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <bbq^> Jordan_U: Yep i know :)_
[07:19] <bbq^> use ALT + (1-9) to switch windows
[07:20] <Blue1> some jerk for australia
[07:20] <psiforce_> hey!
[07:21] <bbq^> Blue1: :/
[07:21] <Blue1> err sorry bbq
[07:21] <Blue1> not you pyr0
[07:21] <bbq^> :)
[07:21] <bbq^> ya i know :)
[07:21] <bbq^> dinner yay :)
[07:21] <Blue1> woo hoo!
[07:22] <bbq^> catchya later ^^
[07:22] <dhikr> hi ! I installed everything and can anything under 10.04, how can I do the housework Sachan I do not even know what I installed?
[07:22] <Blue1> bbq^: was 40C here today...
[07:22] <dhikr> j'ai installé un peut tout et n'importe quoi sous 10.04, comment je peux faire le ménage sachant que je ne sais même plus tout ce que j'ai installé ?
[07:22] <dhikr> oh !
[07:23] <dhikr> I installed everything and can anything under 10.04, how can I do the cleaning knowing that I do not even remember what I installed?
[07:23] <Blue1> i know it's french but that's all
[07:23] <dhikr> sorry
[07:23] <dhikr> i use an translate it is for that
[07:23] <Blue1> dhikr: what are you trying to un-install/cleanup?
[07:24] <LeServal> dhikr: I found a nice program "bleachbit" for cleaning up localisations, unneeded dependencies etc. If that is what you need.
[07:24] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: I found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/NouveauEvaluation but no link to drivers?
[07:24] <Blue1> thers always the computer janitor too
[07:24] <Oyster> hi, what does nmap package stand for?
[07:25] <dhikr> Thank you Blue1 and LeServal
[07:25] <LeServal> Oyster: scanning open ports.
[07:25] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: I found this website, it has a script that apparently tells you why you can't run compiz, http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[07:25] <Oyster> LeServal, thanks=)
[07:26] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: I've had that script, it tells me it can't run do to me having 2 video cards?
[07:26] <Blue1> oh I found out that my apc software works today -- had a power outage at 8 am (lasted 90 min) slept right through it.
[07:26] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: ohh, do you have an onboard graphics card?
[07:26] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Yes.
[07:26] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Would that cause a problem also?
[07:26] <KukMan> I want to exclude some layout from layouts switching. And want to be able enable it from some hotkey
[07:28] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: yea it might
[07:28] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: How would I fix that then...?
[07:28] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: you have a desktop?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> FlameTai1:  ive ran compiz with 2 video cards. 2 nvidia ones at least..
[07:28] <phoenix__> any one familier with alsa configuration
[07:28] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Yes
[07:29] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: nvm about that then, cause I saw someone having a problem with their laptop switching cards
[07:29] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: i dont think that will happen on your system
[07:29] <newlyparted> well i managed to remove it from grub....
[07:29] <r-c-is-me> please help with this error
[07:29] <r-c-is-me> W: GPG error: http://debian.wgdd.de jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0F719C35E394D996
[07:29] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Well is there a way to get the old test drivers of Nouveau?
[07:30] <LeServal> I would like to start a terminal tty9 and then to stop that terminal tty9 WITHOUT restarting Ubuntu. I have a tty9.conf in /etc/init which works fine if I reboot - how do I do it without a reboot? kill -1 1 or telinit q do not help btw.
[07:31] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: This seems to be a good guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=659200
[07:31] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: That's about shutting down the PC? lol
[07:31] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: But I think you'd be better off working with proprietary drivers because I don't think compiz works well with nouveau
[07:32] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: oops, :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6592005
[07:32] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: lawl that made my day xD
[07:34] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: 3D driver is NOT officially supported so wouldn't this not work? And also how am I supposed to get it to work with proprietary drivers, if I can't check what is keeping me from running it?
[07:35] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: yea, I think I got it confused with the ATI open source one
[07:35] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: What you mean?
[07:35] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: I thought nouveau supported compiz
[07:36] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: I'm pretty radeon does
[07:36] <dmglouis> *sure
[07:36] <FlameTai1> dmglouis:  Currently driver developers only support 2D driver (just as stable as nv driver, but faster). 3D driver is NOT officially supported and bug reports are NOT accepted, as there is still much to implement and memory management still has to be ironed out (playing 3d games with high resolutions for extended periods is not recommended...).
[07:36] <FlameTai1> The good news is that the driver supports composite, damage, render and many other extensions, so you can use metacity (gnome window manager) or xfwm4 (XFCE4 wm) built-in compositing managers to get all those neat effects. Also it's reported that Open Arena runs pretty well and I have tried to run Fallout2 under wine - runs pretty well for me.
[07:37] <FlameTai1> So it kinda supports it?
[07:38] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: If I uninstalled the propriety drivers, installed this, if it didn't work very well, couldn't I always just uninstall it and go back to propriety?
[07:38] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: yea, there shouldnt be any problem with that
[07:39] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: have you tried download the proprietary one from nvidia directly, though?
[07:39] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: its worth a shot
[07:39] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: Would there be any difference? I thought they all were the same because Ubuntu keeps them updated?
[07:41] <airtonix> my ubuntu lucid keeps trying to install linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic (2.6.32-22.36), and failing... how to prevent this ?
[07:42] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: Thats true. But I think the different install method might do something/omit something that the installing through ubuntu would have done
[07:42] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: also, Im reading that people are having luck just reinstalling the drivers
[07:43] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: so you might not even need to get it directly from nvidia
[07:43] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: I suppose I shall try, also it says 195.36.15 for driver version on the site it says 195.36.24
[07:43] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: I already tried reinstalling
[07:43] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: oh ok
[07:43] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: then, yea, I would try the nvidia.com route
[07:44] <FlameTai1> dmglouis: 3 mins till download is done will post results in a few
[07:44] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: okay, sounds good
[07:45] <LeServal> I would like to start a terminal tty9 and then to stop that terminal tty9 WITHOUT restarting Ubuntu. I have a tty9.conf in /etc/init which works fine if I reboot - how do I do it without a reboot? kill -1 1 or telinit q do not help btw.
[07:45] <joobie> anyone had experience setting up a half-bridge connection on linux where the gateway assigned is outside of the local subnet?
[07:45] <Fudge> hi I have a gigabyte g41 motherboard and get usb errors in my console, i suppress them with dmesg -n 1 but wonder if a bios update would help, its currently from factory 040909 date. Also can I get ubuntu lucid to update it?
[07:46] <bnagy> joobie: can you explain a bit more, because on the face of it that makes no sense - you can't have a gateway that is outside your subnet
[07:47] <bnagy> because, you know, how do you get to it :)
[07:47] <indio> Hi. How do I minimize Evolution to the icon tray?
[07:47] <phlak_user> bnagy: he probably wants to setup a bridge and not a router
[07:47] <Ganang> hi guys, i did something in my ubuntu that messed by network card.....is there any chance to rollback all the configurations for 2 days ago?
[07:48] <joobie> bnagy, i have a modem which is setup in half-bridge connected to my linux box.. the modem does pppoa auth to my dsl provider and it hands over the public ip to linux
[07:48] <thune3> Fudge: new bios might work, what is the error?
[07:48] <joobie> i cant route out that interface at the moment
[07:48] <joobie> the problem is it usually assigns a /32 netmask to the interface with a gateway that is obviously outside of that netmask
[07:49] <zljing> my ubuntu 10.04 is ok
[07:49] <joobie> on a standard pppoa connection.. not sure how i can make linux like this
[07:49] <phlak_user> joobie: the normal way is to use pppoe at your linux box
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> LeServal:  how are you starting it?
[07:50] <joobie> phlak_user, im trying to avoid that.. prefer to use half-bridge if it's possible
[07:50] <LeServal> Dr_Willis: I copied tty3.conf to tty9.conf in /etc/init, changed tty3 to tt9, on reboot it works. I want it WITHOUT a reboot.
[07:50] <joobie> i mean, it works on windows im thinking it must wokr in linux?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> LeServal:  i have a similer thing via this  sulogin.conf in /etc/init --> /etc/init/sulogin.conf
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/5Vdf9S0Y
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> LeServal:  that gives me a 'root' terminal (for rescue needs) on tty2  if i exit it.. it does not restart.
[07:51] <indio> Hi. Does anybody know how to minimize Evolution to the system tray?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> LeServal:  if i want it back after exiting it ->  openvt -c 2 -w sulogin
[07:51] <NZheretic> I have been trying to help a friend over phone set up an Ubuntu 10.4 i386  dial-up connection to an ISP using gnome-ppp & external modem. ( It worked well with older fedora ) Gnome-ppp connects  and logs in but pppd is not registering ( not visable with ifconfig ) and the connection times out. Anybody use gnome-ppp or wvdial
[07:52] <phlak_user> joobie: how do you do it in windows?
[07:52] <phlak_user> !dialup
[07:52] <bnagy> joobie: http://www.wlug.org.nz/Half%20bridge%20with%20PPPoA
[07:52] <bnagy> joobie: route to the device with a host route, then add that as the default gw
[07:52] <joobie> phlak_user, just set it to dhcp
[07:52] <joobie> and bobs ur uncle
[07:52] <joobie> bnagy, i foudn that post..
[07:53] <joobie> problem is i dont want to add it as the default gw
[07:53] <joobie> i have another interface that i want to be default
[07:53] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: hey, I have got to sleep now
[07:53] <dmglouis> FlameTai1: sorry I couldn't have been more help
[07:53] <dmglouis> *of
[07:53] <LeServal> Dr_Willis: I need a terminal starting and stopping. Like, when you press Ctrl-Alt-F9, normally, there is no terminal. I want that there is one as long as I like - and then, that there is none when I want to stop it. Normally, I have to erase tty9.conf for that again and restart init. But kill -1 1 does not work (in NetBSD and 8.04, it did). I shall now check out openvt, thanks!
[07:53] <bnagy> joobie: so what do you want routed to the adsl?
[07:53] <joobie> bnagy, just a specific ip
[07:54] <NZheretic> Doh 'sudo adduser USERNAME dip' 'sudo adduser USERNAME dialout'
[07:54] <bnagy> joobie: can't you do the same thing but route add ip netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0 ?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> LeServal:  You want tty9 to work uidentically to tty1,2 3 and so on then?
[07:54] <phlak_user> joobie: you can add a static route for that ip with the adsl being the default device
[07:54] <Ganang> hi guys, my wireless network suddenly stoped working.....
[07:54] <bnagy> uh sorry to the correct ip dev eth0
[07:54] <bnagy> just substitute for the 'default gw' part?
[07:55] <Ganang> the drivers are still there but my card does not find any wireless network
[07:55] <mongrKKK> dolphin owns you faggots irc.hardchats.com #bmc
[07:55] <Fudge> thune3  I think its Jun  6 16:51:08 gigabyte kernel: [22903.050039] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 35
[07:55] <idorurobby> dolphin owns you faggots irc.hardchats.com #bmc
[07:55] <NTdenny> dolphin owns you faggots irc.hardchats.com #bmc
[07:55] <joobie> bnagy, i tried that, all i see when i tcpdump on that interface is 'arp who-has <dst-ip> tell <my-int-ip>' ..
[07:55] <phlak_user> Ganang: are there any wireless networks around?
[07:55] <AndrewX192> Ganang, what model computer/wireless card?
[07:55] <joobie> phlak_user, i dont want the adsl to be the default gw
[07:55] <joobie> just route for a specific ip
[07:56] <bnagy> joobie: maybe patebin netstat -nr ?
[07:56] <Ganang> phlak_user: AndrewX192: yes there are. It might have something to do with something that i installed...is there any chance to rollback the system configuration for 2 days ago?
[07:56] <joobie> bnagy, it adds the route fine
[07:56] <joobie> bnagy, the route works.. because im seeing the arp who-has
[07:56] <joobie> on that specific interface
[07:56] <phlak_user> joobie: this sums it up --> Windows doesn't seem to mind the gateway being in a different subnet, but Linux does.
[07:57] <AndrewX192> Ganang, I just spend a few hours dealing with wireless issues? do you happen to be using a intel pro wireless card on a dell laptop?
[07:57] <joobie> but i think the problem is that interface doesnt know its gateway, so it does a arp lookup rather than pass it to the gateway
[07:57] <bnagy> joobie: well if it were routing it wouldn't be arping
[07:57] <joobie> phlak_user, i know.. but what's the fix then?
[07:57] <thune3> Fudge: that looks like a kernel boot message, that keeps repeating?
[07:57] <AndrewX192> Ganang, also what does network manager say about your wireless cards?
[07:57] <joobie> bnagy, bingo
[07:57] <bnagy> so, maybe paste output of netstat -nr? :)
[07:57] <Fudge> ye s thune3  thats why i had to supress it, sinec i use text to speech it was  very annoying
[07:58] <joobie> bnagy, you miss the point
[07:58] <joobie> without that static host route, if i tcpdump on the interface i won't see anything
[07:58] <Fudge> thune3  does it mean somethings misconfigured?
[07:58] <joobie> with the static host route, if i tcpdump on the interface i do see the arp request on that interface
[07:58] <Fudge> perhaps its my card reader
[07:58] <Ganang> Andrex192: no....i also spent some hours to get it working...but it was ok....i have it working more than a year...but yesterday i started to mess up with aircrack and i installed  this -> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`  linux-source kernel-package libncurses5-dev fakeroot wget bzip2
[07:58] <Ganang> and after that the wireless stoped working
[07:58] <phlak_user> joobie: add a static route as explained in that article
[07:58] <bnagy> joobie: no, I really don't I know you think you've configured it right, but it's not working, so for me to help you I need to look for myself
[07:58] <joobie> the difference being that with the static host route, it is sending the packet to the interface, but the interface doesnt know its own default gw
[07:59] <bnagy> joobie: that's how troubleshooting works :) Second pair of eyes.
[07:59] <joobie> phlak_user, i have.. i just havent added the default
[07:59] <joobie> sure one sec bnagy
[07:59] <joobie> i have to reconfig and bring up the int
[07:59] <thune3> Fudge: wait, actually that is the message when a 'new' device is connected. can you determine which device it is re-registering? (should be a few lines later)
[07:59] <Ganang> that is why rolling back the system configuration would be nice..but i am not sure if ubuntu has this feature
[07:59] <Fudge> thune3  do you midn if query you?
[07:59] <adum> recommend a nice music player? possibly with some decent visualizations?
[07:59] <Fudge> midn if i query you i mean
[07:59] <bnagy> joobie: or just tell me the exact two route commands you're using
[07:59] <Fudge> hope you read typonees
[07:59] <phlak_user> Ganang: can you see dmesg when you turn off and on your wireless; it might throw up some clues
[07:59] <RDove> xmms is good, its like winamp for windows
[07:59] <thune3> Fudge: no, proceed
[08:00] <vect> adum: rymthmnbox
[08:00] <AndrewX192> Ganang, try opening a terminal and do "iwlist scan"
[08:00] <adum> oh xmms is still going on okay.. im back to linux after taking a vacation for a while, good to be back
[08:00] <vect> xmms is old
[08:00] <adum> old ha, i knew it
[08:00] <vect> it's 2010, not 1999
[08:00] <Ganang> phlak_user: AndrewX192: i receive no scan results for wlan0
[08:01] <AndrewX192> Ganang, hm
[08:01] <phlak_user> Ganang: if i were you, i'd go back one step
[08:01] <AndrewX192> Ganang, What wireless card is this?
[08:01] <Ganang> phalk_user: how can i rollback?
[08:01] <joobie> bnagy, http://pastebin.com/ZLu9FM8n
[08:02] <Ganang> AndrewX192: This is a Broadcom 4318 Airforce One
[08:02] <joobie> bnagy, eth5 is the adsl interface (half-bridge) and eth0 is my main wan interface
[08:02] <lizhihui> fgh
[08:03] <bnagy> joobie: and what's the address / range you want routed through the adsl?
[08:03] <phlak_user> joobie: the route command should have dev eth5 at the end
[08:03] <joobie> with that in place, if i try to hit <IP_ADDRESS>, i just see a heap of 'arp who-has <IP_ADDRESS> tell <IP_ADDRESS>' on eth5
[08:03] <phlak_user> Ganang: have you changed the kernel?
[08:03] <ManDay> I press the PWR-Button to hibernate the computer. It hibernates.  It comes back up. I'm on the desktop for a few seconds and then, without me having pressed anything, it goes back into hiberation! When I bring it back the second time everything works. This happens EVERY time!
[08:03] <Ganang> phlak_user: which system log shows me the last installations?
[08:03] <Ganang> phlak_user: i just ran the following : apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`  linux-source kernel-package libncurses5-dev fakeroot wget bzip2
[08:04] <joobie> bnagy, i want to route <IP_ADDRESS> thorugh the adsl
[08:04] <joobie> phlak_user, it does
[08:04] <phlak_user> Ganang: none of those has anything to do with your wireless driver
[08:04] <bnagy> joobie: ok I think you've got it wrong then
[08:04] <AndrewX192> pharmaka, unless he installed a kernel module which interacts with the wireless drivef
[08:05] <joobie> bnagy, ?
[08:05] <phlak_user> joobie: can we see what your current routing table looks like?
[08:05] <joobie> phlak_user, http://pastebin.com/ZLu9FM8n
[08:05] <bnagy> the route to <IP_ADDRESS> should point to a single IP which is your adsl side gateway
[08:05] <Ganang> phlak_user: therefore...i would like to know exactly how to remove this .... how is the best way to do it? Since i installed with apt-get..maybe i can unistall with synaptic too
[08:05] <joobie> ok
[08:05] <joobie> but that is the problem
[08:05] <bnagy> which is going to be close to <IP_ADDRESS> - which is your public IP, yes?
[08:05] <joobie> no
[08:05] <joobie> that is another interface
[08:06] <joobie> <IP_ADDRESS> is the public ip for the adsl
[08:06] <Msnbc> Can I go to sleep while ubuntu upgrades to the newest version? I'm currently getting new packages.
[08:06] <bnagy> ok! and what's the gw it gives you?
[08:06] <phlak_user> Ganang: just run those commands with "remove" in place of "install"
[08:07] <joobie> bnagy, that is the problem.... exactly the problem! :)
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> Msnbc:  if it has to ask a question.. it will wait.. :)
[08:07] <bnagy> joobie: should be in that same subnet
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> Msnbc:  but it shouldent ask untill its got stuff downloaded
[08:07] <joobie> bnagy, if i hook up the modem in half-bridge to a windows machine and see what it gets, it gets a public ip of <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with a gw of <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:07] <bnagy> ok
[08:08] <joobie> bnagy, if i disable the half bridge and i look at what ips are being assigned to the modem, i see <IP_ADDRESS>/32 with a gw of something out of that subnet
[08:08] <bnagy> joobie: so you want route add -host <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth5
[08:08] <joobie> i've tried that..
[08:08] <joobie> sec let me do it again
[08:08] <bnagy> then route add 203.55.whatever 255..... 202.205 etc
 then route add 203.55.whatever 255..... 202.205 etc
[08:09] <joobie> what do you mean with that line?
[08:09] <joobie> i got your previous one..
[08:09] <Ganang> phlak_user: perfect....easier then i thought....thanks!
[08:09] <joobie> ill add it for testing, though have tried this (because the articles say to add the gw as a static host route, but then say you ened to add it as default)
[08:09] <bnagy> sry :) add a host route with a /32 netmask for your final destination pointing to the ip of the gatewat
[08:10] <phlak_user> Ganang: yw
[08:10] <bnagy> so route for ip of gateway to device (eth5), route for final IP to ip of gateway
[08:13] <keekles> hey guys i am having trouble compiling this http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-reviews-owners-lounges/439591-official-ul30vt-x1-owners-lounge-123.html#post5663702
[08:14] <keekles> when i do "make" it says "nothing to be done for 'default'. "
[08:14] <bnagy> keekles: did you do ./configure first?
[08:14] <bnagy> not that I read your link
[08:14] <keekles> there is no config executable
[08:14] <keekles> the thread that i posted has only the code and the makefile :/
[08:15] <bnagy> keekles: guess you need to read the makefile then and work out the targets
[08:15] <ManDay> I press the PWR-Button to hibernate the computer. It hibernates.  It comes back up. I'm on the desktop for a few seconds and then, without me having pressed anything, it goes back into hiberation! When I bring it back the second time everything works. This happens EVERY time!
[08:15] <keekles> ok cool thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[08:15] <silv3r_m00n> isn't genbarcode there in synaptic
[08:15] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[08:15] <joobie> bnagy, i think you might have done it
[08:15] <keekles> what would be the console command to check where those directories are?
[08:16] <bnagy> joobie: \o/
[08:16] <keekles> like in windows you can do %system%
[08:16] <joobie> possibly
[08:16] <joobie> seeing another issue atm im trying to resolve to be 100% on this
[08:16] <bnagy> joobie: cause I need to go for lunch now :)
[08:16] <joobie> will be 5-10mins
[08:16] <joobie> oh
[08:16] <joobie> duck out man
[08:16] <joobie> ill hang around and let you know how it goes
[08:16] <joobie> 45min lunch?:P
[08:16] <FloodBot2> joobie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <joobie> u @ work?
[08:17] <bnagy> nah it's sunday my time, I was hanging out trying to get some help on something and just helped some people to kill time
[08:17] <joobie> what u want help wiht
[08:17] <bnagy> bridged networking XD
[08:17] <joobie> wat about it
[08:18] <joobie> all this bridging is driving me insane :P
[08:18] <|_ocke> sausagetits
[08:18] <bnagy> I have an ubuntu server where the physical NIC flaps which means the bridge interface won't stabilize
[08:18] <|_ocke> er
[08:18] <joobie> nod
[08:18] <|_ocke> uh crap wrong chan
[08:18] <bnagy> but I think I may have found an approach that works in the meantime
[08:18] <|_ocke> sorry
[08:18] <shubbar> i m stuck with Canon LBP 3300
[08:18] <joobie> ahh
[08:18] <bnagy> anyway :O <-- fudz
[08:19] <Walex> BTW my Ubuntu 10.04 install is no longer booting properly. It always gets into the initramfs BusyBox prompt, and from that I cannot mount any filesystem, the error message is that they are busy or already mounted. My root FS type is JFS and I have added the 'jfs' module to the initrd already. Suggestions?
[08:19] <pkkm> How to perform a search for files, which names contain 'email', 'e-mail' or 'address'?
[08:19] <joobie> cool cool
[08:19] <joobie> ill let you know how i go
[08:19] <joobie> thanks mate
[08:19] <bnagy> joobie: good luck
[08:19] <Walex> pkkm: depends, you can use nautilus or from the command line 'find'
[08:20] <banker247> how do i enable video accelatroin? when i type glxinfo | grep rendering it returns as NO
[08:20] <A83C7F67EC> walex: whats the output of "mount" (only run mount)
[08:20] <A83C7F67EC> (without options)
[08:21] <Walex> A83C7F67EC: rootfs, sys, proc, dev, dev/pts (from BusyBox)
[08:21] <pkkm> Walex, how to use 'find'?
[08:22] <Walex> pkkm: there are some examples in 'man find' and online tutorials, but something like 'find DIR -iname 'email' -o -iname 'e-mail' ....
[08:23] <FlameTai1> Guys how would I set the default run level on my system so that it will boot to a VGA console?
[08:23] <maco> FlameTai1: remove gdm from starting in /etc/rc2.d/ i think
[08:23] <pkkm> Walex, thanks
[08:24] <maco> FlameTai1: runlevels 2-5 all have gdm if its installed, and ubuntu runs in 2
[08:24] <keekles> anyone mind taking a quick look at this makefile? It's not working and im not sure what else to edit. http://pastebin.com/6dH1rCPB
[08:25] <banker247> how would i run a game as sudo
[08:26] <FlameTai1> maco: So I would have to remove them all from starting from 2-5?
[08:26] <crdlb> banker247: why would you want to?