[15:34] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: it doesnt appear in the list of items you can add to a panel. and its not in the application menu.
[15:34] <ikonia> [snake]: there is an option to sure, I certainly can't remember it off the top of my head.
[15:34] <mustafa_> renaming a file using command line
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: is it runnable as an app?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: use mv
[15:34] <mustafa_> anyideaa
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: mv name newname
[15:34] <harry__> Can someone help me find support for printing? I am using zorin, a ubuntu based distro. I would like to find the support page like this one but when I go #zorin there is only me there??? I cant believe there is only me ?
[15:34] <dawne> Is this the preferred method for setting a static wireless ip? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426270
[15:35] <[snake]> ikonia, yeah I can't find it though.... so idk what to do.
[15:35] <ikonia> [snake]: why do you need to do this ?
[15:35] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: no, if you run it from a terminal it just does nothing.
[15:35] <ikonia> [snake]: if the disk is not in use it's good to slow it / park it
[15:35] <Kingsy> nevermind I guess, its not really that important.
[15:35] <[snake]> ikonia, well it's being used, I'm syncronizing my bitcoin wallet for the first time.
[15:35] <ikonia> [snake]: then it won't spin it down
[15:36] <ikonia> [snake]: as it's in use
[15:36] <Miebster> So I am running ubuntu 10.05 and I need to get python 2.7 installed as a dev environment, this is what I ended up doing, is it bad/good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427757/
[15:36] <[snake]> oh hm. ok thanks ikonia
[15:36] <incog> so linux has removed 386 support
[15:36] <ikonia> incog: no it's not
[15:37] <Toph2> harry__,,, try #ZorinOS
[15:37] <incog> those poor africans will be unable to boot ubuntu on our ewaste
[15:37] <ikonia> Miebster: depends if you trust that PPA
[15:37] <harry__> Toph2  thx
[15:37] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: so what should i do with libxkbfile1
[15:37] <Miebster> ikonia: its what the guys in #python recomended
[15:37] <lov> Hi, I've got a drive which I want to auto mount on a location that doesn't normally exist. Using the Disk Utility tool, the default effect of clicking "Mount Volume" is to mount it on /media/SSD, but when I try making an entry in /etc/fstab with a mount point of /media/SSD mount -a fails with "mount: mount point /media/SSD does not exist". What am I doing wrong in fstab?
[15:38] <jrib> lov: why don't you create the mount point?
[15:38] <Miebster> ikonia: hypothetically lets say I didn't, there is any "trusted" ppas with python 2.7.3 built again ubuntu 10.05 are there?
[15:38] <lov> jrib: I could do this, but I'm wondering if there's a flag that would auto-create it for me.
[15:39] <jrib> lov: no, not that I know of
[15:39] <ikonia> Miebster: ubuntu 10.04 (just a heads up) I'm not aware of any PPA for anything that I trust
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: once you remove the proposed repo, you should be able to just install it
[15:39] <ikonia> Miebster: the best thing is contact the guy who maintains the PPA and get an idea of what he's done and how keen he is to support you or anything that hangs off the PPA
[15:39] <[snake]> lov, perhaps the manual pages have an answer, man mount
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: not even the firefox team one?
[15:39] <lov> jrib: OK, odd. So Disk Utility actually creates the location to mount it onto?
[15:39] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no,
[15:39] <felix___> i accidently deleted needed stuff in /boot and now all kernel updates fail. is there a way to fix that?
[15:39] <[snake]> in terminal lov
[15:39] <lov> [snake]: I've looked at it, i didn't see anything relevant.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: fair play
[15:39] <[snake]> oh ok. Yeah I'd go with making the folder
[15:40]  * lov shrugs
[15:40] <lov> alright, I guess I'll do that. Thanks anyway.
[15:40] <[snake]> no problem
[15:40] <Jules_> Hi there,
[15:41] <Jules_> I have a problem.
[15:42] <Jules_> My hard disk is making a really annoying sound.
[15:42] <harry__> Doesnt make sence to me how Ubuntu can have over 1750 active users and Ubuntu based Zorin has only 7??  Is there any other active #for zorin other than the ZorinOs???  I cant get my printer to work
[15:42] <Jules_> It's only on Ubuntu, i don't have this problem with Windows 7/8
[15:42] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: can i do that with synaptic preferences, you know disabling the proposed repos
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> felix___: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic linux-image-`uname -r`
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: not sure how, it is possible. I always use the sources.list file. I hate those GUI package apps, too slow for my tastes
[15:45] <Jules_> Is there anybody out there that can help me? That would be awesome.
[15:45] <harry__>  Doesnt make sence to me how Ubuntu can have over 1750 active users and Ubuntu based Zorin has only 7??  Is there any other active #for zorin other than the ZorinOs???  I cant get my printer to work and none of the 7 have responded in a while..  The system now sees the printer, I have jobs qued and the printer is green light and ready...  Still not printing
[15:45] <ikonia> harry__: you said that
[15:45] <ikonia> harry__: please take it to another channel
[15:46] <harry__> Ikonia  I added to it the problem details.
[15:46] <llaskin1> how can I kill the GUI from ubuntu?  I tried logging out, but it still brings me to the GUI...I'd like to have a differnt instance using the GUI, and can't startx on there till I kill the other X server...
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> harry__: if you use a distro with a smaller user base, you will get less support.
[15:46] <ikonia> harry__: yes, but we don't support Zorin here
[15:46] <ikonia> harry__: so we won't be helping
[15:46] <escott> Jules_, yes im sure there is someone out there who can help
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> harry__: why not install a real Ubuntu install and get the full support of the Ubutnu community.....
[15:47] <Jules_> Escott I hope so :)
[15:48] <harry__> I have ubuntu 12 on my machine.  Cant convince my friend to make the leap.  But he is getting there slowly.  Zorin is based completely off Ubunt so I figured the similarities may be close enough to help him out.
[15:48] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: is there a way to regenerate sources.list ?
[15:48] <ikonia> harry__: I'm sure you can help him then, or use the Zorin OS channel
[15:49] <TimFreeman> I like to use opie, which lets you log in without transmitting a reusable
[15:49] <TimFreeman> password.  It was present in Lucid, but apparently is not present in Precise.
[15:49] <TimFreeman> Does anyone know of some other one time password scheme that's present in
[15:49] <TimFreeman> Precise?  Is there some procedure I can use to get Opie into Precise?
[15:49] <FloodBot1> TimFreeman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <harry__> Ikonia Well, before I waste anyones time, I would try the Zorin channel ya think?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: all you have to do is open the file in a text editor and comment out the 2 lines for the proposed repo....why do you need to regenerate anything at all...?
[15:49] <ikonia> harry__: good luck
[15:49] <gmachine_24> hi. to find the ip address, or local address of all computers connected to my home network, what do I do from the CLI?
[15:50] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: i don't think the problem is the proposed repo
[15:50] <harry__> Ikonia Thx... If you only knew what Ive been through getting him off windows, I'd get a medal. lol
[15:50] <Jules_> My hard disk is making a really anoying noise.
[15:50] <Jules_> It's only on Ubuntu.
[15:50] <escott> Jules_, then its probably failing and you need to replace it
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: then comment it out
[15:51] <gmachine_24> Jules_, so, got a question?
[15:51] <Jules_> But on Windows it doesn't make that sound.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: you will need:   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      to get write access
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: does the system have a make and model?
[15:53] <escott> Jules_, its hard to imagine what Linux would be doing differently from windows that would cause a different sound. more likely ubuntu is located in a position on the disk that stresses the read heads and that is making the noise.
[15:53] <Jules_> ActionParsnip, no it doesn't.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: is it a desktop or a laptop?
[15:54] <Jules_> It's really weird. I know.
[15:54] <Jules_> Desktop
[15:55] <Jules_> It has 8 GB of RAM and a AMD FX 4100 processor.
[15:55] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: here's my sources.list http://pastie.org/5516436
[15:55] <seednode> Jules_: Hey, another Bulldozer victim!
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: have you tried the drive tester on the ultimate boot cd? It has the testers from the main drive manufacturers
[15:56] <Jules_> Nop, i didn't.
[15:56] <almoxarife> Jules_: i hear the same 'noise' if you want to call it that, not using win though, its the location of the partition on the drive, this one (install) is the quiet one, the other is much louder
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: comment out 127 and 128, may help
[15:57] <circle> what's the difference between the 'less' and 'more' programs?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> circle: read the man pages ;)
[15:57] <Pici> circle: their features, read the manpages
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: it will test all the drive, if you hear a noise partway then you know the score :)
[15:58] <escott> Jules_, almoxarife, any kind of clicking noise from a disk should be a cause for concern.
[15:58] <Jules_> but it's a little crazy.
[15:59] <Jules_> I installed only Windows 8
[15:59] <Jules_> No  problems.
[15:59] <Jules_> Even if i run just the live disk. It gives that noise.
[15:59] <almoxarife> escott: no clicking here, so whine either, chirping though, mice?
[16:00] <escott> Jules_, it is a physical device. and can fail in physically different locations at different times. if the OSes are in those different locations you may here it from one and not the other
[16:00] <felix___> is there a way to cleanup old, failed installs?
[16:00] <llaskin1> how can I kill the GUI from ubuntu?  I tried logging out, but it still brings me to the GUI...I'd like to have a differnt instance using the GUI, and can't startx on there till I kill the other X server...
[16:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> and hello irc!
[16:01] <Jules_> Hmm, i my PC is just 3 months old.
[16:01] <almoxarife> felix___: clean how? explain
[16:01] <gmachine_24> hi. to find the ip address, or local address of all computers connected to my home network, what do I do from the CLI?
[16:01] <escott> Jules_, failures are very common for new disks. you should check the smart status in the disk utility
[16:02] <Jules_> Sow i think im gonna call the store.
[16:02] <escott> gmachine_24, you can ping all the computers but they are not obligated to respond
[16:02] <almoxarife> gmachine_24: you could install and run 'nmap'
[16:02] <Jules_> I will, im at the moment running Elementary OS. That's based on Ubuntu.
[16:02] <Jules_> Sow i don't know how i can find it there/
[16:03] <phunyguy_work> gmachine_24, the arp command may work as well if your PC has spoken with the devices recently.
[16:03] <felix___> almoxarife: nvm apt-get autoremove does the trick
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> arp -a to list cached arp entries
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> (IIRC)
[16:04] <gmachine_24> sudo arp -a
[16:04] <gmachine_24> ?
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> no sudo needed.
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> actually just arp works.
[16:05] <ikonia> you will not find all devices with arp
[16:05] <kdsmain> if i just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts and I want to set my computer up as a server, will I be able to follow the 12.04 lts server edition guide?
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, thats what I said.
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> "if your PC has spoken with the device recently"
[16:06] <almoxarife> !nmap
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> and I offered it as an alternative method.
[16:06] <ikonia> nmap won't do it
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> !info nmap
[16:06] <almoxarife> ikonia: wont do what?
[16:06] <Robbilie> can yomeone tell me where to find jono?
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> !info jono
[16:06] <mustafa_> my ubuntu indicate that there is internal error with the system what should i do
[16:06] <ikonia> scan the whole network and give you a list of IP addresses/hostname mapping (it won't do mapping reliable)
[16:07] <phunyguy_work> also by gmachine_24's wording, I assume he needs mac.
[16:07] <kdsmain> anyone know if the 12.04 lts server guide will work sufficiently well for 12.04 desktop?
[16:07] <magpii> whwnever i minimize a window, it disapears, how do i restore the default bottom panal?
[16:07] <ikonia> kdsmain: depends what you are doing
[16:08] <kdsmain> or if there is a good channel for setting up a server?
[16:08] <escott> kdsmain, apt-get install ubuntu-server
[16:08] <almoxarife> ikonia: ok, is there something that does a better job than nmap?, the nick wanted something cli
[16:08] <kdsmain> is ubuntu-server a different OS?
[16:08] <ikonia> almoxarife: I really don't think so, tools such as nmap depend on machines responding, you'd do network mapping at a network device level
[16:08] <ikonia> kdsmain: no
[16:08] <gandhijee_> hello, is there a way to change the color depth in ubuntu without having to edit the xorg.conf file?
[16:09] <mustafa_> my ubuntu indicate that there is internal error with the system what should i do any idea
[16:09] <kdsmain> #ikonia: ok thanks
[16:09] <ikonia> mustafa_: what errors ?
[16:09] <almoxarife> mustafa_: what error?
[16:09] <phunyguy_work> !patience
[16:10] <mustafa_> i dont know really hes just telling me that hes experience an internal error
[16:10] <ikonia> mustafa_: where is it telling you this ?
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, must be the "Ubuntu has detected an internal error" popup.
[16:11] <ikonia> never seen it
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> mustafa_, click "more information if you can, please"
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> err
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> mustafa_, click "more information" if you can, please
[16:12] <phunyguy_work> or show details, going off memory... it should tell you the failing application.
[16:12] <mustafa_> some pop up window just appered telling me report a problem
[16:12] <mustafa_> problem type crash
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  that's apparmor
[16:14] <mustafa_> saying apport vrsion 2.6.1 ubuntu 3
[16:14] <hid> Hi I'm looking for a software which allow you to see and edit (or not) video metadata.
[16:14] <mustafa_> title :evaluation -calender -factory crashed with sigabrt
[16:15] <mustafa_> title :evaluation -calender -factory crashed with sigabrt
[16:16] <mustafa_> i have been having this problem a few days for now
[16:16] <mustafa_> its telling me to send error report
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  i had that too, in the beginning, it stopped after a few days, dunno what caused it
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> dunno = don't know   <- sorry
[16:18] <mustafa_> It have been afew days from now
[16:19] <joey8> hid:  what have uou tried so far
[16:19] <wizard`> if I change my password on a server, do I need to regenerate an rsa certificate for ssh with rsa to work?
[16:19] <mustafa_> some times when iam start the system and some times it takes a while to appear
[16:19] <mustafa_> iam using ubuntu 12.10
[16:20] <wizard`> i recently changed the password, and now I can only seem to connect via password only
[16:20] <llaskin1> does anyone have experience making the jenkins user(a user created by installing jenkins) acccess to the GUI on the machine/X windows?
[16:20] <llaskin1> I'm trying, but can't get that username for some reason to show up int he login list...
[16:20] <somsip> llaskin1: how are you installing jenkins?
[16:21] <somsip> llaskin1: hang on - you want to login as jenkins user?
[16:21] <llaskin1> yes somsip, i do.
[16:21] <llaskin1> he has rvm installed for his user
[16:21] <llaskin1> and I would like to be able to run stuff in the GUI to test it as hiim to see why I am having some of the issues I am...
[16:21] <joey8> what happens if there is already a user called jenkins
[16:21] <mustafa_> what any one have any idea why its happening
[16:21] <hid> joey8 : Checked the settings with nautilus, opened it with vlc but there were not all the metadata.
[16:21] <llaskin1> joey8 there isnt.
[16:22] <somsip> llaskin1: not sure why you need to do that. If I have to use jenkins user I sudo -i; su jenkins
[16:22] <llaskin1> right
[16:22] <llaskin1> but when I try to run firefox frmo the terminal, it dies
[16:22] <llaskin1> cuz it can't access the correct display for it when I try to have selenium start firefox when logged in as jenkins via ruby.
[16:23] <somsip> llaskin1: you using framebuffer X display thingy?
[16:23] <mustafa_> any one know what is the most stable ubuntu version to use it as a server
[16:23] <llaskin1> no no
[16:23] <llaskin1> the box I am logging into it is a physical ubuntu box on my desk
[16:23] <llaskin1> it has a user on it, which is the main user "llaskin"
[16:23] <somsip> llaskin1: it's running X already?
[16:23] <joey8> hid:  try http://grigio.org/
[16:23] <llaskin1> somsip: yes.
[16:24] <llaskin1> its running ubuntu12.04 which boots into X when I reboot the machine...
[16:24] <somsip> llaskin1: worked fine for me with 12.04 desktop and on a headless server. What method to install jenkins? PPA?
[16:25] <llaskin1> this has little to do with jenkins other then the fact that I want jenkins to be able to login to ubuntu desktop
[16:25] <llaskin1> somsip:  you were able to login as jenkins user from this screen: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WE3KdvhtQCY/T5ZmI4TyDpI/AAAAAAAAIqc/BuD1Ehsk9XE/s1600/ubuntu12.04-login-screen.png ?
[16:25] <llaskin1> (or a similar looking screen?)
[16:25] <mustafa_> any one with any idea why is my system reporting an internal error
[16:26] <escott> mustafa_, without knowing what the error is. no
[16:26] <somsip> llaskin1: I've had no need to do that. Jenkins runs as a service. I access the web interface
[16:27] <K1rk> Would anyone happen to have any input on my LightDM question?  ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092461
[16:27] <mustafa_> just a question i s not upgrading the system creates an ibselete packages
[16:28] <Guest92298> hi guys
[16:28] <Evolution> is it possible to install ubuntu using a vnc connection? I've got a videocard that the default driver absolutely hates.
[16:28] <mustafa_> obsolete packages
[16:28] <hid> joey8 : I'm already struggling with English so Spanish...
[16:28] <Guest92298> does anyone know how to enter console when playing cs 1.6 in wine
[16:29] <hid> joey8 : What's the name of the software ?
[16:29] <joey8> hid:  extract from reeleso.com..... If you're a Linux user a good program to do this looks to be XMP Manager. While the software is still in development from what I read, it looks to directly edit a large number of formats.
[16:30] <RickZilla> I downloaded virtualbox last night, but haven't taken it through the paces yet...any advice/words of wisdom before I get started?
[16:30] <somsip> llaskin1: anyway, doesn't selenium run the browser, and if you/root are running selenium it will have access to the display
[16:31] <somsip> llaskin1: oh - you didn't mention selenium. My assumption maybe...
[16:34] <halvors> May anyone update the roundcibe package to the latest version?  0.8.4 http://www.roundcube.net/
[16:37] <llaskin1> somsip yes i know...i'm having some issues which are ubuntu specific, but I need to login as jenkins to somewhere so I can run firefox as the jenkins user
[16:39] <hid> joey : thank you
[16:39] <joey8> hid: yw
[16:40] <scarrs> I have a slight problem.... I cannot figure out where to copy my .pak files fo run quake3 and quake 3 server... I am setting up a quake3 dedicated server. help pls?
[16:41] <escott> scarrs, should be /usr/games/quake something
[16:41] <scarrs> ty
[16:41] <gmachine_24> RickZilla, I did a test run of virtualbox a couple weeks ago. It was easy. Try it and if you have ? check back in.
[16:42] <RickZilla> gmachine_24 Thanks for the response. Do I have to have a valid copy of Win to use it?
[16:43] <kenny__> RickZilla, yes
[16:43] <gmachine_24> RickZilla, yes.
[16:43] <RickZilla> k, I thought as much...good to know, and I'll try it out this weekend.
[16:44] <gmachine_24> But I only ran it on Linux
[16:44] <RickZilla> Thanks for the responses
[16:44] <RickZilla> Does it have to be a copy of Win not already installed elsewhere? ie, another machine in the home
[16:45] <Kroach> is there a way to get width of the gnome-terminal from the command line?
[16:49] <Robbilie> anybody with a nexus 7 here?
[16:50] <randomness> im trying to install this .dep file but it says.. dependency is not satisfiable: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[16:50] <randomness> .deb*
[16:50] <RickZilla> Robbili: Not yet, but I hear 13.4 is pretty boss on it
[16:50] <joey8> i have to install a 32bit debian linux file and it the filename is aaa.pkg (note no "d"). Does anyone know how to install it please
[16:51] <Robbilie> i dont have nor want a n7 but i need a log :D
[16:51] <randomness> can someone help me understand what that means?
[16:51] <doomgiver> in top, compiz is using up 117% cpu o.O
[16:51] <doomgiver> is this "normal"?
[16:52] <randomness> doomgiver: maybe try a different graphics driver
[16:52] <doomgiver> on a i5,
[16:52] <doomgiver> hmm
[16:52] <randomness> no it's not normal
[16:53] <randomness> randomness: instead of looking at top open up system monitor and see if it says the same thing
[16:53] <randomness> oops doomgiver i mean - sry got a buzz ;p
[16:53] <escott> Kroach, $COLUMNS
[16:54] <doomgiver> how do i open system monitor?
[16:54] <doomgiver> quantal quetzal
[16:54] <Kroach> escott: Thank you
[16:54] <halvors> I get an error from dovecot, and can't figure out how to fix it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427860/
[16:56] <doomgiver> ok, i found system monitor...
[16:56] <longshot7> how do you open a USB thumbdrive in Ubuntu 12.10??
[16:57] <myhero_> exit
[16:57] <ceed^> Hi, I would like to get rid off all the "a system program has crashed do you want to report it" stuff. I get those and there's nothhing wrong with my system, and even if there is some crash somewhere I do not care and do not have time to mess with it.
[16:58] <doomgiver> randomness: ok, one of the cpu cores is always at 100%
[16:58] <doomgiver> i mean, the load shifts between cores, but at least one od the is always at 100%
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> ceed^  try this http://ubuntuguide.net/disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu-12-10
[17:00] <llutz> halvors: you have set something like "mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir" which expands to /var/www/Maildir for user www-data, but that directory (/var/www) is owned root:root 755, so dovecots delivery agent (lda) has no permission to store mails there.
[17:01] <Bitcho> hi people
[17:02] <llutz> halvors: http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailLocation  shows you some ideas how to fix that (per-user mail location, homeless-users). but you really should check if www-data needs to receive mails at all
[17:02] <gmachine_24> longshot7, when you plug in the usb thumb drive it doesn't show up automatically I'm assuming?
[17:03] <bambino> do anyone know a good sound normalizaer for mp3 in ubuntu?
[17:04] <ckhakeem108> exit
[17:05] <oskar-> bambino:  mp3gain sounds good ;)
[17:05] <bambino> oskar thanks
[17:14] <DanielX42> Hey, I'm an ubuntu newbie. I want to edit id3tags with id3v2 and sometimes I get weird (chinese) letters as tags. But only on my testserver not on my ubuntu computer at home. I set locale first to us-utf8 and then de-utf8 but no change. Is it possible that id3v2 runs under another locale setting? Can I change this somehow?
[17:19] <bieb> I am putting together a test webserver to check out Word Press.. does the alternated CD have webserver install?
[17:19] <bobweaver> bieb,  any reason why alternative and not server image ?
[17:20] <bieb> bobweaver: I didnt look for server install.. I have the alternate CD image already.. I will go grab the server.. thanks
[17:21] <Fohlen> hey out there, i have a problem with python and ubuntu12.10
[17:21] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  could you please give us more details? like I am trying to do X but X happens when I do X
[17:21] <oskar-> Fohlen:  I have one with Python in general ;-)  (I guess, we need details!)
[17:21] <Fohlen> i've installed python and python-dev and tryed to compile a c binding, but it failed and cant find Python.h
[17:21] <Fohlen> was writing :D
[17:22] <Fohlen> btw it cant find the declarations
[17:23] <Fohlen> I get errors like this: Function not defined: »bool SbPy::triggerFuncEvent(const char*, std::vector<_object*>*, PyObject*)«:
[17:23] <bobweaver> what version of py ?
[17:23] <Fohlen> 2.7
[17:23] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  you installed with apt or source ?
[17:23] <DanielX42> Is there any language setting except locale in ubuntu?
[17:23] <Fohlen> apt
[17:23] <myhero> while installing openssh-server it is suggesting some other packages also namely rssh molly-guard openssh-blacklist openssh-blacklist-extra monkeysphere packages and these packages are not getting installed on their own as being suggestive packages......but when i am installing them by "sudo apt-get install rssh molly-guard openssh-blacklist openssh-blacklist-extra monkeyshere" then these are gettting installed saying that "Package rssh is not available, but
[17:23] <myhero> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:23] <myhero> is only available from another source
[17:24] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  try to install python via tar.ball   or what happens when you run    "locate Python.h"  can you find it ?
[17:24] <Fohlen> i can find it
[17:24] <Fohlen> thats the shame :/
[17:24] <bobweaver> Fohlen, then DL tar bar
[17:24] <Fohlen> its located where it should be
[17:24] <bobweaver> http://python.org/ftp/python/2.7.2/Python-2.7.2.tar.bz2
[17:25] <Fohlen> sure that will fix it? or maybe just say gcc to use the version?
[17:25] <Fohlen> i think it's a problem on linking
[17:25] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  take a look at this yet ?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8282231/ubuntu-i-have-python-but-gcc-cant-find-python-h
[17:25] <myhero> how to install these and are these packages necessary at all ? blacklist nad blacklist-extra packages however are available for installation thrrough software center but when oe has to install through software center then why will anybody use apt-get install command ....
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> myhero  try apt-get install rssh by itself, not as part of a list
[17:25] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ^^
[17:26] <myhero> MonkeyDust: same error with package 'rssh' has no installation canndidate
[17:26] <banda> how can i find out why these packages are being held back when i $ sudo apt-get upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427956/
[17:26] <nongoogle> ubuntu keeps reverting a script to unwriteable on a boot stick
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> myhero  try sudo apt-get update, first
[17:27] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:27] <Fohlen> bobweaver, i gonna try that
[17:27] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  you could try having gcc being a different version. but 1st run     sudo find / -name '[Pp]ython.h'  fi it does not find it then the header filr is not installed or called something else
[17:27] <oskar-> nongoogle:  does the underlying file system know of the set permissions?
[17:27] <myhero> MonkeyDust: btw rssh is important and necessary or it can be left ? what work does it do ?
[17:27] <Fohlen> bobweaver, i think it is installed
[17:27] <llutz> myhero: packages "suggested" might be usefull but aren't necessary
[17:28] <banda> the gui upgrade manager wants to install the packages but apt-get is holding them back? mostly kernel upgrades?
[17:28] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  then run command looking for header file
[17:28] <Fohlen> it just doesnt links to the Python.h
[17:28] <Fohlen> thats my fucking problem :/
[17:28] <nongoogle> dunno oskar-
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> myhero  i didnt k now it existed and never missed it, i use rsync and ssh
[17:29] <burg> hello. i have some programmable keys on my keyboard. how can i bind some actions to them in ubuntu?
[17:29] <bobweaver> whoa language there partner this is a family channel Fohlen  (but I understand furstration )
[17:29] <h00k> Fohlen: please keep the cursing not in this channel
[17:29] <jrib> banda: are you using "apt-get upgrade" instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[17:29] <bobweaver> burg,  open dash type in keyboard and go to the shortcuts page
[17:29] <myhero> MonkeyDust: throw some light on rsync
[17:29] <banda> jrib yeah should i do dist-upgrade?
[17:29] <oskar-> nongoogle:  see the filesystem in the output of "mount". e.g. vfat does not support it...
[17:30] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | banda
[17:30] <burg> bobweaver: thank you
[17:30] <banda> jrib thanks man
[17:30] <jrib> banda: yes, dist-upgrade will let packages change dependencies (which is how the kernel upgrades work)
[17:30] <bobweaver> np burg  enjoy :)
[17:31] <nongoogle> i got vfat
[17:31] <nongoogle> oskar-
[17:31] <oskar-> ok
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> myhero  is similar to cp, but more versatile
[17:32] <myhero> MonkeyDust: rsync ?
[17:32] <doomgiver> whats that software called, that displays data on the descktop "wallpapaer", i hope you understand... that is used to see system info... its modifiable and criptable, i forget its name
[17:32] <devjustforfun> people what's that mean: bash: type: write error: Broken pipe
[17:32] <llutz> doomgiver: conky
[17:32] <doomgiver> yeah!!!
[17:32] <myhero> MonkeyDust: if yes then does it has a gui or its same terminal based ?
[17:32] <jrib> !conky | doomgiver
[17:32] <doomgiver> thanks!
[17:32] <bobweaver> doomgiver,  screenlets ?
[17:33] <jrib> I swear that used to exist...
[17:33] <doomgiver> thats it, i totally forgot its name
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> myhero  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[17:33] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:34] <winb> !apt-get
[17:34] <myhero> MonkeyDust: whats the difference in speed between active and passive modes ?
[17:34] <myhero> MonkeyDust: of ftp or ssh ?
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> myhero  best were to read about it, that's how I learned it
[17:37] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:37] <py_can> dear ubuntu support could you get new mpd versions?
[17:37] <py_can> that or not buggy
[17:37] <jrib> py_can: buggy how?
[17:37] <bobweaver> no but you can
[17:38] <max999> hi evryone, im struggling with an ubuntu fork on my acer aspire one 756 - it seems to randomly power off (with always the same few applications for mobile internet and rdp sessions running). i did run a ram check (memtest86+) over night with no errors.. heat seems to be no matter too :)
[17:38] <py_can> jrib: idk, #mpd send me here to ask
[17:38] <py_can> because they dont support/do not help me with my problem
[17:38] <bobweaver> !info mpd
[17:38] <py_can> correct.
[17:38] <jrib> py_can: well are you experiencing a particular bug that's been reported but fixed in a version later than what's in ubuntu?
[17:38] <bobweaver> py_can,  this is a dbus runner ?
[17:38] <myhero> quit
[17:39] <py_can> jrib: no idea, I cant get output to an icecast server
[17:39] <py_can> bobweaver: not sure what that is
[17:39] <L3mce> max999: what does it say about your battery?
[17:39] <Fohlen> bobweaver, compiled it, still not running
[17:39] <bobweaver> py_can,  it is what deamons use sometimes to talk like with libdee on dbus. Like how unity uses it to listen to say lens and scopes that are python
[17:39] <max999> l3mce: how to check? its happening when attached to wire too
[17:40] <Varazir> Hello I have made a script to run on up start http://pastebin.ca/2291905 I get error  /proc/self/fd/9: 18: [: on: unexpected operatorif I run the script by it self like this http://pastebin.ca/2291900 it works
[17:40] <py_can> bobweaver: hmm ok
[17:40] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  and you found the py header file and included it to the whatever it is that you are compiling ?
[17:40] <py_can> bobweaver: to answer your question, no idea
[17:40] <L3mce> max999: the native utility under settings will evaluate its health... but if it happens when plugged in... it is something else.
[17:40] <bobweaver> py_can,  sorry I know nothing about mdwhatever
[17:40] <py_can> :) np
[17:41] <Fohlen> hmm bobweaver
[17:41] <max999> l3mce: there are no kernel errors or other error messages in the logs i checked (dmesg and var log syslog stuff) :l
[17:41] <Fohlen> i'll check whats wrong
[17:41] <L3mce> max999: Sounds like a hardware problem... have you run another os?
[17:41] <lawltoad> hi lets say i have machines A and B behind a firewall, and an open computer C at home. I want to run an ssh tunnel from B that opens a port on C that forwards to A. any help?
[17:41] <max999> l3mce: not yet. could help. the memtest did run for like 12 hours without problems.
[17:42] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  you read the full page and not just part of it ? like the part that says you need python-dev installed ?
[17:42] <max999> l3mce: sometimes its up for a few hours sometimes it goes down within minutes.. no matter what i do on it
[17:42] <Fohlen> bobweaver i allready installed it...
[17:42] <L3mce> max999: yeah... forgot that... however on ubuntu it will not ever go 12 hrs without powering off?
[17:42] <Fohlen> i get errors like "bla is not defined"
[17:42] <Fohlen> seems like it includes 3.2 header files
[17:42] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  pastebin ?
[17:43] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  or do you have a trunk for code ?
[17:43] <Fohlen> i have
[17:43] <jrib> Varazir: is use of "until" documented somewhere?
[17:43] <bobweaver> branch trynk wahtever
[17:43] <Fohlen> http://xsbs.greghaynes.net/
[17:43] <Fohlen> just try to compile
[17:43] <Fohlen> http://paste.kde.org/624260/
[17:43] <Fohlen> i get this error
[17:43] <Fohlen> seems like a wrong linking, but I dont get why :/
[17:43] <max999> l3mce: on my ubuntu fork i think it never made 12 hours yet :) probably 3-4.
[17:44] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  brb on phone
[17:44] <Varazir> jrib: I haven't checked, I thought it was strait forward shell script
[17:44] <Fohlen> kthx, cya
[17:44] <jrib> Varazir: see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ .  Also, try #upstart
[17:45] <jonny__> Need a little help with /home/user-directory on Ubuntu Server 12.10... Have set up as Server NAS with Ubuntu running on CompactFlash card and 2TB storage on raid1. Running "adduser" sets up new accounts on /home/new_user_here but how can I make it so that it sets it up on the raid instead /mnt/md0/ ?
[17:45] <Guest74405> hi can someone help me
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest74405  start with a question
[17:46] <Guest74405> how to enter console in cs1.6 in wine
[17:46] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  look at error in compile see the "pycontrol/sbpy.cpp"  make sure that you are importing the right libs for it to decalre its self ?  maybe that is that is all I see
[17:47] <Fohlen> bobweaver, I thought that too
[17:47] <Fohlen> the fuck is, under my old ubuntu it worked :/
[17:47] <Fohlen> :D
[17:47] <Fohlen> thats why I'm asking
[17:47] <max999> Guest74405: isnt it ^?
[17:47] <FloodBot1> Fohlen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <Pici> Fohlen: Please mind your language here.
[17:47] <jrib> jonny__: if you always want to have /mnt/md0 serve as /home, then you can just mount it to /home instead.  If you just want this particular user to have his home in /mnt/md0, then you can pass --home to adduser
[17:47] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  what Pici  that is last warnning
[17:47] <u01010> can i use ubuntuone in fedora 17?
[17:47] <jpds> FloodBot1: Looks like a programming error.
[17:48] <jpds> Fohlen: You'll have to talk to the code writer.
[17:48] <Fohlen> k
[17:48] <jonny__> jrib: Thanks! Would you recommend one over the other?
[17:48] <bobweaver> Fohlen, open up that file and just make sure that inculde dirs are there and they where not re-named if that is ok like jrib  contact upstream devs
[17:48] <Guest74405> max999: i dont know where is that button
[17:48] <Guest74405> im noob
[17:49] <max999> Guest74405: you could check in settings too i guess
[17:49] <max999> Guest74405: try the key left from "1!
[17:49] <jrib> jonny__: both are reasonable solutions, depends on what you want to do
[17:50] <Guest74405> when i enter the game console atomaticly opens and when i press ` it closes but wont open again
[17:50] <jrib> jonny__: by the way, if you choose to mount md0 as /home, then you'll want to copy the existing files in /home to it
[17:50] <Guest74405> max999: thats it but it doesnt work
[17:51] <u01010> Hi, can i use ubuntuone in fedora?
[17:51] <max999> Guest74405: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1116188
[17:51] <bgo> need some advice regarding touchpad two-finger tap action on ubuntu 12.04.  i have been able to change the synclient settings TapButton2=2, and it's working fine on closing tabs as well as opening my bookmarks in a new tab. however, when i use the same action (two-finger tap simulating a middle-mouse-click) on webpage hyperlinks, it does not do anything at all, and i have to resort to using right-click and selecting "open in new tab". any good ad
[17:51] <bgo> vise on how i should fix this?
[17:51] <Guest74405> u01010: yes you can
[17:51] <llutz> u01010: you can http://www.maxiberta.com.ar/blog/ubuntuone-packages-fedora
[17:52] <Guest74405> max999: thanks ill try it
[17:54] <stream> Hi, Can I get the only ip-address from the dhcp-server, ignoring the other parameters from the server? What needs to change in dhcpclient?
[17:55] <Guest20264> hi
[17:55] <stream> on ubuntu 11.10
[17:56] <llutz> stream: edit the "request", remove all those parameters you don't want
[17:56] <llutz> stream: in dhclient.conf it is
[17:57] <stream> llutz, thx
[17:58] <killer> libjack-dev package in ubuntu?
[17:58] <jonny__> jrib: I see. I think mounting /md0 to /home makes for a more fluid solution going forward. Thanks so much for your input! :)
[17:58]  * killer tried sudo apt-get build-dep vlc
[17:58] <Guest20264> ni1 hw to hack FB accnt
[17:58] <jpds> Guest20264: Ha, not here.
[17:58] <Guest20264> wat u mean
[17:59] <Guest20264> not here..
[17:59] <Pici> Guest20264: we don't support illegal things here.
[18:00] <Guest20264> kkkkkkkkk..no prblm..
[18:00] <killer> and it's offtopic too ...lol :Guest20264
[18:00] <Guest20264> yeah..u r ryt..
[18:00] <Guest20264> ni1 knw whr can i get dis info..
[18:00] <OerHeks> Guest20264,  facebook knows your ip now.
[18:01] <Guest20264> huh..dnt talk non sense..
[18:01] <DJones> Guest20264: Its not supported in this channel, don't ask again
[18:01] <rosevp> question connecting to remote ubunto using Xming
[18:01] <Guest20264> kkkkk..
[18:01] <Guest20264> ovr n out..
[18:02] <rosevp> keep getting "Hung in XOpenDisplay"
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Guest20264 , and speak proper English ,this isn't a text or IM channel
[18:02] <Guest20264> okkkkkk..m leavin bro..
[18:03] <Important_Questi> Hello, i have a question about the installtion of ubuntu
[18:03] <Aelingil> I am trying to have an alias command show "text" then "Command".. Example alias krn "Kernel" uname -r  Every time i try it, i get an error telling me after "Kerne" it cannot run the command. Is there a different way to show text next to a command?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> Important_Questi, just ask your question
[18:04] <Important_Questi> ok
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> Important_Questi  let's hear it
[18:04] <Important_Questi> I want to try ubuntu
[18:04] <Important_Questi> and when i install it on a usb stick
[18:04] <Important_Questi> will it write some things to my laptop?
[18:04] <Important_Questi> i wnat only to try
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Important_Questi  no
[18:05] <Important_Questi> sry for my bad english
[18:05] <Important_Questi> so it doesnt write anything to my harddrive?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Important_Questi  simply install it on a stick and then boor from that stick - use netbootin or so
[18:05] <Important_Questi> really NOTHING?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> boot*
[18:07] <Important_Questi> i wnat to keep my harddrive clean
[18:07] <Important_Questi> when you are right i will try ubuntu
[18:07] <Jordan_U> Aelingil: display_kernel() { echo -n 'Kernel: '; uname -r; }
[18:08] <Aelingil> Jordan_U, I will try that, thank you
[18:08] <Jordan_U> Aelingil: You're welcome.
[18:08] <Jav77> can anyone help me change the size of my display? its not a resolution problem, its a tv size issue. system settings shows its a 72", when it isn't
[18:09] <gulag2012> Hi. I was installed a program called click&clean in Firefox, it allows you to run bleachbit after firefox closes. How can I get it to execute. I directed it towards /usr/bin/bleachbit. It
[18:09] <gulag2012> It's asking me for an Argument?
[18:09] <Jav77> i am using nvidia drivers and there isn't an option to overscan or underscan
[18:09] <K1rk> Is there a LightDM PPA available to install newer versions of LightDM on Ubuntu Precise?
[18:09] <Important_Questi> thanks for your help
[18:09] <Important_Questi> bye
[18:13] <escott> Aelingil, you need a bash function for that
[18:13] <urthmover> off topic. Does anyone have a nice way to stream all their youtube  subscriptions through vlc.  without gabbing the link from each one?  Is  there a playlist generator or something?
[18:13] <Catbuntu> hi
[18:14] <savantelite> hello
[18:14] <savantelite> -help
[18:14] <escott> gulag2012, programs like bleachbit don't work on many modern filesystems
[18:15] <gulag2012> Huh? I have working. I just don't know how to get it to run like an executable like windows.
[18:15] <RickZilla> savantelite: Just ask a question
[18:15] <escott> gulag2012, you should configure your firefox to place temp files and such in a tmpfs folder
[18:15] <escott> gulag2012, probably doesn't do what you want on NTFS either.
[18:16] <escott> gulag2012, you should just create a tmpfs filesystem mount point and point ~/.firefox there
[18:16] <gulag2012> I have ext4 on all partitions. Bleachbit runs if I execute it. How can I get a program to run it?
[18:16] <FerkSwe> When did Irc support get removed from Empathy?
[18:17] <Jav77> help please
[18:17] <mIRC> sera
[18:18] <mIRC> !list
[18:18] <kenlik> i need some help to configure the D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen in ubuntu. Anyone have some tips to start the configuration?
[18:18] <almoxarife> gulag2012: a program?
[18:19] <OerHeks> kenlik, if you don't get responce, try #ubuntu-touch here on #freenode
[18:20] <escott> gulag2012, if you are determined to run this bleachbit thing (which seems really silly from a security perspective) you would need to have a daemon that checks running processes looking for firefox-bin, or you could modify the /usr/bin/firefox script to not disown the firefox-bin subprocess and run bleachbit after firefox completes
[18:20] <gulag2012> Yes, I installed a firefox addon called click&clean. It would launch janitor just fine. I don't know how to get it to trigger bleachbit. I have the command as /usr/bin/bleachbit. I don't know what to give it for an argument.
[18:21] <nongoogle> how do i reformat a bootstick to something not lacking functionality on both linux or other os
[18:21] <egadw> When will Ubuntu make the shift to systemd?
[18:21] <nongoogle> something i don't have a problem with executing scripts on
[18:21] <escott> egadw, not anytime soon'
[18:21] <wachpwnski> you know how you have to press ctrl+shift then c or p or t
[18:22] <wachpwnski> In the terminal? How can you get rid of the shift binding?
[18:22] <seednode> Speaking as a systemd user: I personally have liked it and had no issues, but other people seem to have had some
[18:22] <wachpwnski> so you have to change the stty bindings first?
[18:23] <egadw> escott: too bad :(
[18:23] <javier__> can anyone help me change the size of my display for a television reporting the wrong size on nvidia 304.64
[18:26] <Ari_Ari> Hi, I´m new on ubuntu, I have an Ubuntu Server with apache2, I have an application running, it was working fine, but I have move it to a new location, and now I can access from any compuert to the application only using the IP address, I cannot use anymore the server name
[18:27] <BluesKaj> javier__, have you checked systemsettings>display & monitor>size & orientation ... I have to ask the obvious first
[18:27] <escott> Ari_Ari, your router (or whatever provides DNS) needs to be updated
[18:28] <javier__> yes. it says monitor is 72". its not
[18:28] <BluesKaj> what about the resolution , javier__?
[18:28] <alo21> hi..
[18:29] <alo21> where is the html file of firefox's stratpage?
[18:29] <alo21> startpage*
[18:29] <javier__> i am also using gnome shell
[18:30] <ClientAlive> is /opt really the best place to install eclipse. Don't want the older version in the repos. Had problems with current eclipse install. #eclipse pretty dead right now. Anyone?
[18:30] <Ari_Ari> escott, i think that the router needs to be updated, but I have been waiting for 3 days
[18:30] <Ari_Ari> and I have way to access using the name
[18:30] <ClientAlive> *have problems*
[18:30] <Ari_Ari> the DNS servers refhresh every day
[18:31] <BluesKaj> javier__, which nvidia card ?
[18:31] <nitzer> hey! i'm having trouble with my usb remobavle devices being recognized while plugged in ... any idea what could be?
[18:31] <javier__> geforce gt640
[18:33] <javier__> and in the NVIDIA X Server settings I have no way to change the monitor scaling, so I am stuck
[18:34] <ClientAlive> thx anyway. I gotta do something about this.
[18:38] <javier__> i am currently running ubuntu 12.04.1, gnome shell 3.5.4, nviidia 304.64. I need to change the monitor size from 72 to 56".
[18:38] <javier__> resolution needs to stay at 19201080
[18:39] <escott> javier__, what does that mean? how are inches part of the display measurements
[18:40] <nongoogle> i want gparted to make my bootstick something besides vfat :C
[18:41] <javier__> system settings is reporting the monitor to be a 72" display. the tv is actually a 56" LCD. So, i have display cutoff all around.
[18:41] <Leidenfrost> Hi guys. I have to work with an Ubuntu Hardy (and yes, I'm stuck with that version) and for some reason I can't access the ttys. Any help would be appreciated.
[18:42] <javier__> the resolution is 1920x1080 as its an hd tv. So I need to change the scaling or some other value so the desktop isn't clipped.
[18:42] <max999> leidenfrost: ger?
[18:43] <Leidenfrost> max999: Sry, my knowledge in german is limited to ask for the bathroom
[18:43] <escott> javier__, you have overscan
[18:43] <max999> leidenfrost: your name makes me assume :) nevermind, you are trying to change to a tty with ctrl + alt + f[n]?
[18:43] <javier__> i dont see hot to change it anywhere
[18:44] <Leidenfrost> max999: oh I see lol. Yeah, I'm trying to access the ttys that way.
[18:44] <grumpyrj> javier__: have you looked at cvt and modelines?
[18:44] <javier__> no. how do i do that?
[18:45] <grumpyrj> with google, I mean.
[18:46] <max999> Leidenfrost: pretending to be smart and just copying out of google: In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf have you accidentally set the Option DontVTSwitch to True in the ServerFlags section?
[18:47] <Leidenfrost> max999: That's a good one. But no.
[18:47] <savid> Hi, I need to apply a simple patch to my kernel (drivers/hid/hid-core.c).  Are there any instructions available on the best way to make such a change?
[18:47] <escott> Leidenfrost, nvidia proprietary drivers?
[18:47] <jonny__> FerkSwe: hejja sverige i forumet?
[18:48] <Leidenfrost> escott: Neither. It's a VMware guest.
[18:48] <savid> Oh, nm, found it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[18:48] <max999> Leidenfrost: ah in a vm..
[18:48] <max999> Leidenfrost: windows key + ctrl + alt + f..
[18:48] <nvl> Hello. I have a problem. It seems that your 32bit package for orc (http://code.entropywave.com/orc/) is broken and I couldn't compile a file. It seems that the issue is solved, so I had to clone it form git and install it, but it gives me an error when I try `./autogen.sh`: `./autogen.sh: 7: ./autogen.sh: autoreconf: not found`
[18:49] <Leidenfrost> max999: No good. :(
[18:49] <max999> Leidenfrost: but its the answer :l :)
[18:50] <nvl> What should I do to fix it? I have followed these instructions - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[18:50] <max999> Leidenfrost: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/295034
[18:50] <max999> Leidenfrost: with ctrl + alt you ungrab your vm. change the shortcut
[18:50] <DWSR> can someone help me with mdadm? I'm trying to create a stripe of 2 disks nested inside of a mirror.
[18:50] <escott> DWSR, why not just use the build in raid10
[18:50] <DWSR> Because I don't have enough devices.
[18:51] <DWSR> Raid 10 requires 4.
[18:51] <DWSR> I only have 3.
[18:51] <javier__> how do i change overscan values?
[18:51] <DWSR> And 2 of them are smaller than the third.
[18:51] <escott> javier__, there are various modeline generators out there
[18:53] <Leidenfrost> max999: I'll try that.
[18:53] <dr_willis> javier__: what video chipset
[18:53] <javier__> ok. what do I with that?
[18:53] <nvl> I have a problem trying to compile a program. Can anyone help me, please?
[18:54] <heoyea_> nop
[18:54] <lucido> dudes, how do I achieve gmail notifications in the status bar?
[18:54] <grumpyrj> javier__: so xorg uses some default values. you can generate your own modelines if xorg gets it wrong and put them in your xorg conf file. cvt is a program that generates modelines.
[18:54] <javier__> I am using an nvidia geforce gt 640 with driver version 304.64
[18:55] <escott> DWSR, ok. then i guess just create the array across the different md devices
[18:55] <heoyea_> lucido: install gmail-notify
[18:55] <dr_willis>  javier__ the nvidia-settings tool has an overscan settings feature
[18:55] <javier__> when I was using the ATI card, there was a simple option to change the scaling value. Now, with the NVIDIA, I am not finding such a solution
[18:55] <DWSR> escott: So just create the first array than the second?
[18:55] <escott> DWSR, im not clear on what you are proposing to do
[18:55] <lucido> heoyea_, I shall do so immediately
[18:55] <DWSR> escott: (A+B)=C in terms of size.
[18:56] <DWSR> escott: I'm trying to mirror (A+B) and C.
[18:56] <DWSR> So I need to create a stripe on (A+B) first.
[18:56] <CrazyZurfer> hello guys!, my unity interface works pretty slow for me, when I open a program, it takes a while to start, I'm sick of this cuz my notebook has 4 GB of ram but an 1,3 GHZ processor, anyway to speed it up or change the interface for a lighter one?
[18:56] <escott> DWSR, so C is twice the size of A or B
[18:56] <javier__> i followed the online instructions from x-swat and am wondering where the overscan vlaues are or where I can simply change the display size.
[18:56] <DWSR> Yes.
[18:56] <DWSR> escott: ^^
[18:57] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: XFCE is much lighter than Unity.
[18:57] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: Also, 1.3GHz is a fairly slow processor.
[18:57] <Leidenfrost> max999: do you know how to change the deattach keys in vmware esxi?
[18:57] <escott> DWSR, the configuration i would recommend is to mirror A to the first half of C, and B to the second half, then you can LVM across the two md arrays
[18:57] <DWSR> That seems very....unclean.
[18:58] <escott> DWSR, stripping A and B and then mirroring is going to reduce reliability and have more overhead
[18:58] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: it's because i have an ultrabook, but one of the firts, its an intel centrino 2, 1,3GHZ dual core
[18:58] <grumpyrj> wipe the raid and move to lvm entirely
[18:58] <Leidenfrost> DWSR: that's the slowest cpu still being usable for internet.
[18:58] <javier__> the television is set to "justscan" so I am lost
[18:58] <grumpyrj> ah, the minimum internet specs
[18:58] <Leidenfrost> grumpyrj: lol yea
[18:59] <max999> Leidenfrost: not rly, try in ~/.vmware/preferences or something similar :)
[19:00] <pablo_> any good linux beginner tutorials?
[19:00] <DWSR> escott: Ok, I'll do that, but I'm having a problem with apt.
[19:00] <max999> pablo_, lots of
[19:00] <max999> question answered, next
[19:00] <max999> ;D
[19:00] <DWSR> escott: http://pastebin.com/AKVtwk6v
[19:00] <pablo_> hahaha
[19:00] <javier__> i have not run the additional driver update from the system settings
[19:00] <AminosAmigos> pablo_,  site du zero (french )
[19:01] <dr_willis> pablo_: see wgats most tagged with those tags at  delicious.com   is what i do.
[19:01] <max999> pablo_, http://bit.ly/OWP1Cb
[19:02] <dr_willis> javier__: i set my tv to use no overscan.
[19:02] <RJ45> I need an FTP server with a GUI for Ubu 10.04.4, HIT MEH
[19:02] <pablo_> o rigth boys
[19:02] <bl4ckdu5t> can anyone tell me about the RFID tools on BT5
[19:02] <max999> RJ45, filezilla?
[19:02] <DWSR> RJ45: Filezilla.
[19:02] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: don't understand how to install it :S
[19:02] <pablo_> thanx
[19:02] <javier__> overscan from the pc
[19:02] <max999> DWSR, i win
[19:02] <raymondjtoth> hi any one use wubi here?
[19:02] <RJ45> does Filezille double as a server?
[19:03] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: Should be able to just apt-get install xubuntu
[19:03] <RJ45> zilla*
[19:03] <DWSR> RJ45: There's a server package for it
[19:03] <max999> RJ45, double? you can use it as a server
[19:03] <DWSR> escott: Any suggestions on that pastebin?
[19:03] <raymondjtoth> i use wube
[19:03] <max999> RJ45, it doesnt support sftp though. but ftps :)
[19:03] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: and nothing happens with the ubuntu updates later?
[19:03] <raymondjtoth> when i use wubi i get grldr err whats up
[19:03] <RJ45> DWSR: and it's ALL GUI?, including setup/config?
[19:03] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:03] <escott> DWSR, try the suggested instruction, update your packages, disable any ppas
[19:04] <DWSR> RJ45: Yes.
[19:04] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: No.
[19:04] <DWSR> escott: I did update my packages.
[19:04] <jonny__> pablo_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/ubuntu-made-easy-book-review
[19:04] <RJ45> kick-ass! I'll go try it. thanks guys!
[19:04] <RJ45> :-)
[19:04] <raymondjtoth> any one know why i goyo book wubi i get grldr err?
[19:05] <DWSR> escott: That happened after I did an apt-get upgrade
[19:05] <DWSR> escott: So I'm not really sure why the hell it broke so hard.
[19:05] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: apt-get didn't found xubuntu :S
[19:05] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: Sorry, it's xubuntu-desktop
[19:06] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: Thanks.. -> installind :D!
[19:06] <CrazyZurfer> installing*
[19:07] <pablo_> thank u jonnyu_
[19:08] <raymondjtoth> hi im tryingyo install wubi [13:00] <raymondjtoth> and get boot err whats up [13:01] <raymondjtoth> get err grldr
[19:08] <nongoogle> how2maek gparted editor able to reformat bootstick :V
[19:09] <bl4ckdu5t> what is the channel for bt5 users
[19:09] <ouyes> hello, is there anyone get the nvidia driver work on ubuntu amd64 12.04?
[19:09] <AminosAmigos> bl4ckdu5t,  backtrack-linux (you could find it in the website)
[19:10] <almoxarife> ouyes: what have you tried so far?
[19:11] <ouyes> almoxarife, I try to install nvidia -current and download the package for the official website both failed
[19:11] <almoxarife> ouyes: what went wrong with -current?
[19:11] <RJ45> how do I make Filezilla a server?
[19:12] <ouyes> almoxarife, nothing wrong , but after a reboot you will get a resolution of 800x640
[19:12] <almoxarife> RJ45: its a client
[19:12] <RJ45> almoxarife: I was told it can be turned into server
[19:13] <AminosAmigos> afaik you use filezilla to connect to an FTP server
[19:13] <RJ45> FTP server*
[19:13] <almoxarife> ouyes: did you try to change the resolution via the config(gui)
[19:13] <pablo_> Brazilian Jiujitsu and Ubuntu rock
[19:13] <RJ45> pablo_: how would one combine those?
[19:14] <almoxarife> RJ45: plain jane ftp? install ftpd, you might want something a bit more secure
[19:14] <raymondjtoth> anyone good with wubi here?
[19:14] <pablo_> easy just practice them both.....
[19:14] <RJ45> almoxarife: I'm only using it for a test on my network, so plain FTP will do, also how would I de-activate FTP once I'm done?
[19:15] <ouyes> almoxarife, it informs like you have not enable the nvidia driver
[19:15] <raymondjtoth> any one good with wubi
[19:15] <RJ45> my network being a LAN
[19:15] <ouyes> almoxarife, and suggest you sudo nvidia-xorg
[19:15] <almoxarife> RJ45: un-install ftpd
[19:15] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:15] <escott> RJ45, do you not have openssh already installed?
[19:15] <RJ45> almoxarife: anything simpler
[19:16] <RJ45> escott: not sure, why?
[19:16] <almoxarife> RJ45: simpler? cans and a string?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> raymondjtoth  wubi is not something to be 'good at', it's purpose is to get used to the ubuntu interface
[19:16] <escott> RJ45, if you do you can just use sftp
[19:16] <raymondjtoth> MonkeyDust: im ge3tting grldr err when book using wubi
[19:16] <bieb> bobweaver: you still here?
[19:16] <raymondjtoth> why is thiss ancdxs how i gfix it
[19:16] <raymondjtoth> fix it
[19:17] <RJ45> escott: with Filezilla?
[19:17] <almoxarife> RJ45: filezilla is a client
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> raymondjtoth  don't struggle with wubi, install ubuntu on its own partition, next to windows, not inside it
[19:17] <RJ45> almoxarife: which can be turned into server!
[19:17] <raymondjtoth> MonkeyDust: what i do thanks
[19:17] <RJ45> I need GUI
[19:17] <escott> RJ45, filezilla supports sftp
[19:17] <raymondjtoth> mon i wan to uyi wubi
[19:17] <almoxarife> RJ45: ok, so you answered your own question
[19:18] <max999> filezilla does NOT support sftp, its ftps it supports.
[19:18] <RJ45> almoxarife: I'm sure it can be used with FTP, but I'm not sure about SFTP, which it WHY I ASKED
[19:18] <RJ45> it = is*
[19:19] <RJ45> max999: okay
[19:19] <almoxarife> RJ45: filezilla works with sftp, the only diff is the port
[19:19] <raymondjtoth> MonkeyDust: understand
[19:19] <RJ45> gotta go, back later mayber
[19:19] <max999> rj45: maybe im wrong if ppl insist on sftp here. but i found this reply on google recently myself :)
[19:20] <escott> RJ45, as a client filezilla supports sftp, as a server you would be expected to use your openssh-server install for sftp
[19:20] <bulletrulz> Hello
[19:20] <almoxarife> troll!
[19:20] <phunyguy_work> bulletrulz, I thought you got banned? o.O
[19:20] <Pici> RJ45: please use complete words. I for one cannot understand what you are saying.
[19:20] <Pici> RJ45: sorry, mistab.
[19:20] <bulletrulz> phunyguy_work, He Unbanned me
[19:20] <Pici> raymondjtoth: please use complete words. I for one cannot understand what you are saying.
[19:20] <max999> almoxarife, we are talking about the server not the client.
[19:21] <max999> the client does support sftp
[19:21] <bulletrulz> i am using Lubuntu 12.10 and when i try to change the window border it changes the color of the buttons but not the acctully buttons!
[19:21] <almoxarife> max999: filezilla supports sftp, yes
[19:21] <max999> almoxarife, the server doesnt. prove me wrong plz :)
[19:21] <almoxarife> max999: what server?
[19:21] <max999> almoxarife, the filezilla server.
[19:21] <raymondjtoth2> MonkeyDust: sorry got kicked under differnt nick
[19:22] <almoxarife> max999: i dont know what a filezilla server is, i have used the client though
[19:22] <bieb> I installed 12.04 server, I need gui for one of the people that will be using server.. I did apt-get install xinit, when I startx I get a small white box in the upper left with a command prompt.. any ideas?
[19:22] <bulletrulz> Hello! D:
[19:22] <max999> almoxarife, there is a filezilla ftp server version too, thats what rj45 was asking about :)
[19:23] <almoxarife> max999: yes, he said so, and i asked then why he was asking, seems he knew the answer
[19:23] <phunyguy_work> bieb, perhaps you are looking for a desktop environment to use? like LXDE? or XFCE?
[19:23] <almoxarife> !filezilla
[19:23] <aaas> bieb you need a window manager install lxde or xfce4 etc
[19:24] <almoxarife> !info filezilla
[19:24] <max999> rj45: you can use ftps, security level is the same. sftp is easier to manager for network administrators though as it uses 1 port instead of 2. :)
[19:24] <almoxarife> ubot thinks its a client, i am with ubot
[19:24] <bieb> aaas and phunyguy_work: are they both similar? one need more resources than the other?
[19:25] <max999> almoxarife, there is filezilla client and filazilla server ;-)) you prob were not in when rj45 asked about a ftp server initially.
[19:25] <Pici> almoxarife, max999: filezilla server is only available on windows.
[19:25] <aaas> bieb depends on what your needs are, feature, cpu, memory.... google for comparisions there are very detailed comparisions on the web
[19:25] <phunyguy_work> as far as I can tell, FileZilla server is just widoze.
[19:25] <aaas> bieb and many many other options
[19:25] <almoxarife> Pici: must install windoz, i am missing something important :)
[19:25] <phunyguy_work> bieb - LXDE is smaller and more lightweight
[19:26] <bieb> aaas: thanks
[19:26] <bieb> phunyguy_work: thanks
[19:26] <younder> I usencftp
[19:27] <max999> Pici, could be, used it on windows servers yet. dwrs answered with filezilla on the server question too and noone denied it :)
[19:27] <younder> nautilus is the nix gui file browser
[19:27] <jonny__> jrib: Re-mounting md0 to /home was as easy as quick edit in /etc/rc.local. However, did miss something on the way and had to sudo chown -R username:username /home/username/ to get back ownership from root. Works perfect now! Thanks again!
[19:27] <almoxarife> max999: i did
[19:27] <escott> RJ45, max999i was suggesting sftp because he likely already has openssh-server installed so its one less thing for him to do when he is done with his temporary need for ftp
[19:27] <jrib> jonny__: you should be using /etc/fstab, no?  I actually don't know how to properly deal with raid
[19:28] <bulletrulz> i have another probelm
[19:28] <younder> jrib used that just the other day setting up NFS
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> jonny__  is it a server?
[19:28] <bulletrulz> i accedently created 2 docks for awn and now cant get rid of it!
[19:29] <phunyguy_work> bulletrulz, kill one?
[19:29] <bulletrulz> how? phunyguy_work
[19:29] <phunyguy_work> use the xkill command, and click one of them with the cursor
[19:29] <bulletrulz> ok
[19:29] <younder> bulletrulz, ctrl-alt-t cd <dir< and then rm <file> and exit
[19:30] <jrib> jonny__: do you currently have an entry for md0 in your /etc/fstab?
[19:30] <jonny__> jrib: You are right, one should use /etc/fstab. However, if fstab fails during boot, nothing will boot at all and you are left with a non-responsive box. If you let /etc/fstab do general boot procedure and then /etc/rc.local take care of mounting your raid, then at least there's less complexities during boot.
[19:30] <younder> jrib: no
[19:30] <phunyguy_work> younder, I think he meant he had two running.
[19:31] <bulletrulz> NOO!!!
[19:31] <bulletrulz> now i cant start it
[19:31] <bulletrulz> nvm
[19:31] <younder> jrib: You are wrong. It will boot. at statup it will ask if you wnat to skip if you do it wrong.
[19:31] <jrib> younder: :x
[19:32] <bulletrulz> fixed it thank u guys !
[19:32] <bulletrulz> :D
[19:32] <younder> jrib: But I did it wron once and I could still boot and fix it
[19:32] <jrib> younder: I think you're addressing the wrong person
[19:32] <jonny__> jrib: Unless you have some app or something on the raid that depends on startup functions. I don't have an entry in fstab, no.
[19:32] <phunyguy_work> younder, not if you are SSHd in and the server is remote.
[19:32] <phunyguy_work> if so, you cannot boot.
[19:32] <phunyguy_work> ask me how I know.
[19:33] <jonny__> jrib: solely relying on /etc/rc.local to mount the raid1
[19:33] <younder> jrib: Anyhow you can mount --bind as well. no need per se to put it in fstab
[19:34] <almoxarife> phunyguy_work: ok, how do you know?
[19:34] <phunyguy_work> if a disk doesn't mount properly within fstab, it will not boot without user interaction.
[19:34] <phunyguy_work> (iirc)
[19:34] <ubuntu> hey
[19:34] <phunyguy_work> ...because I've had it happen.
[19:35] <phunyguy_work> for example, in an upgrade, /dev/md0 became /dev/md127 - yay, of course fstab still said /dev/md0
[19:35] <ChipsChallenge> Trying Linux for the first time in years. Fuduntu acutally, which still uses gnome2. One minor thing that bugs the hell out of me is that when you have a fullscreen window, you cant click the scrollbar by simply clicking along the rightmost edge of the screen <you hit the window border instead>...
[19:35] <jrib> jonny__: apparently there's a "nobootwait" option you can use in fstab.  Anyway, I'm not sure what standard practice is for dealing with raid, I just mention fstab so you look into it and try to find what best practices are considered
[19:35] <ChipsChallenge> is it like that on most ubuntu based desktops, or on gnome in general is it just a fuduntu thing?
[19:35] <escott> !uuid | phunyguy_work
[19:36] <phunyguy_work> escott yes, and I know that now, however, most beginner raid guides that noobs follow, don't know about it.
[19:36] <almoxarife> i am becoming more more a believer in uuid
[19:36] <RJ45> what package do I need to install in order to use Filezilla as an FTP SERVER?
[19:36] <phunyguy_work> or dont mention it, therefore you have fstab errors when you upgrade and the device changes
[19:36] <escott> phunyguy_work, i have no idea who you are talking to
[19:37] <Mingo__> escott:
[19:37] <almoxarife> RJ45: you would need to install wine(maybe)
[19:37] <phunyguy_work> jrib and younder
[19:37] <DWSR> RJ45: It would appear that Filezilla server isn't available for Linux.
[19:37] <phunyguy_work> (escott)
[19:37] <DWSR> RJ45: If you're looking for FTP, I would recommend SSH.
[19:37] <DWSR> err.
[19:37] <DWSR> RJ45: I would recommend SFTP (which is FTP over SSH)
[19:37] <RJ45> damit
[19:37] <RJ45> I REALLY want a GIU though
[19:38] <RJ45> GUI*
[19:38] <DWSR> RJ45: Then you're on the wrong operating syste.
[19:38] <almoxarife> RJ45: wine, then find filezilla-server for windoz
[19:38] <almoxarife> then pray it all works
[19:38] <DWSR> RJ45: I hate to be an elitist about it, but if you're not comfortable doing at least a few things command line, you shouldn't be running Linux for a server.
[19:38] <DWSR> RJ45: Keyboard cowboys still rule the Linux world.
[19:39] <DWSR> RJ45: That's not to say that you need to have an intimate knowledge of every scripting/programming language, a math degree and a vinyl pocket protector in order to run things, but you need to be comfortable with running on a command line or in a text-only environment in order to do some administration tasks.
[19:40] <almoxarife> cowboys ride keyboards, it was going to happen soonoer or later
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: Besides, FTP is horrible.
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: SFTP is at least secure.
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: And NFS is at least fast.
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: Depending on your needs, you should pick either the former (for remote work) or the later (for internal).
[19:40] <almoxarife> DWSR: what about 'fish'?
[19:41] <DWSR> You almost certainly already have OpenSSH installed on your server, and if you don't, it's a single command away and you get sensible defaults.
[19:41] <RJ45> which one has the least overhead?
[19:41] <DWSR> RJ45: What is your use case? I probably missed it.
[19:41] <DWSR> RJ45: what are you trying to do?
[19:41] <RJ45> LAN Ubuntu to Ubuntu
[19:41] <DWSR> NFS.
[19:41] <RJ45> just doing a few tests
[19:42] <DWSR> You want NFS.
[19:42] <DWSR> So hard in the face it hurts.
[19:42] <phunyguy_work> lol
[19:42] <RJ45> okay, thanks!
[19:42] <RJ45> :)
[19:42] <DWSR> I'm even using NFS Windows to Ubuntu
[19:42] <DWSR> Just because Samba is that much of a flaming pile of monkey manure.
[19:42] <RJ45> hmm
[19:42] <phunyguy_work> DWSR, any issues with UID and GID mapping?
[19:43] <phunyguy_work> I remember that being a pain when I tried it with windows.
[19:43] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: Not overly, I'm pretty sure that I'm running my NFS server ina  pretty poor configuration though.
[19:43] <RJ45> any GUI based NFS?
[19:43] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: It certainly seems a little kludgey, but it works and well.
[19:43] <DWSR> RJ45: No. NFS is meant to be very no nonsense.
[19:43] <DWSR> RJ45: Edit /etc/exports and start the NFS daemon./
[19:43]  * MonkeyDust is now known as MonkeyManure
[19:43] <phunyguy_work> !nfs
[19:44] <RJ45> okay, do you think if I look in the man files I'll be okay on my own?
[19:44] <RJ45> ...when it comes to configuration
[19:44] <phunyguy_work> RJ45, read ubottu's link
[19:44] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: I can basically max the throughput of my disks with NFS, so I'm not complaining. I'm even running ZoL underneat of it.
[19:44] <phunyguy_work> nice, DWSR
[19:44] <DWSR> RJ45: Read the link Ubotu gave. You'll be fine. It's literally a 5 minute process front to back.
[19:44] <RJ45> shweet
[19:44] <almoxarife> RJ45: the least config is ssh(sftpd)
[19:44] <RJ45> thanks for the help guys, although now my face hurts :P
[19:45] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: Yeah, if I had money and things, I'd be running bonded 10GigE into my server with jumbo frames.
[19:45] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: But right now I'm just running GigE over Cat5E and it works well. Still around 25MB/s.
[19:45] <phunyguy_work> wouldn't we all, DWSR
[19:45] <DWSR> Which is pretty close to what I'd get local transfer anyway.
[19:45] <phunyguy_work> I'm still on 100 meg and wireless g.
[19:45] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: Ick.
[19:45] <phunyguy_work> Yes.
[19:45] <DWSR> I have my entire network infrastructure mounted underneath my desk.
[19:46] <DWSR> My desktop and server are hardwired to a GigE router.
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> DWSR, I have been planning an upgrade, but funds always get diverted.
[19:46] <jonny__> jrib: took general queues from https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/advanced-installation.html and the tidbit about fstab during boot from http://www.iceteks.com/articles.php/linuxmdadmraid/2 I'm not a sysadm, just wanted roll my own Ubuntu Server for SoHo NAS purposes. Good advice though to educate more about best practices.
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> this is !ot though
[19:46] <almoxarife> i have a serial connection to my toaster
[19:46] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: My modem is actually across the house, connected via Powerline ethernet.
[19:46] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: *shrug*, we're helping as well.
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> we can discuss further in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> I don't feel like getting yelled at right now :)
[19:49] <RJ45> I read the page on the other end of that link, what I read made be cry :(
[19:49] <RJ45> I'll never understand this stuff
[19:49] <RJ45> made me*
[19:49] <DWSR> RJ45: err, what?
[19:50] <DWSR> The top section is all you need to read.
[19:50] <RJ45> (didn't really make me cry, but nearly)
[19:50] <DWSR> There's like...what? 4 commands?
[19:50] <ChipsChallenge> When running a fullscreen browser window in fuduntu, and clicking the rightmost side of the screen, you don't hit the scrollbar...is it like that on most ubuntu based desktops, or on gnome in general is it just a fuduntu thing?
[19:50] <graChe28> hi i've installed xfce4 via apt-get, and it's missing power manager from the setting menu (read I can't get it to shut the screen off after inactivity) how can i get the power manager setting back?
[19:51] <ChipsChallenge> that's usually how I scroll on my netbook..just move the cursor right until it hits the screen's edge and then click the scrollbar. But on fuduntu, that doesn't work.. could you check if it's the same in your distro?
[19:51] <DWSR> RJ45: apt-get install nfs-kernel-server && mkdir -p /export/users && mount --bind /home/users /export/users && echo '/home/users /export/users none bind 0 0' >> /etc/fstab
[19:51] <DWSR> Just run that as root.
[19:51] <DWSR> You have NFS.
[19:51] <DWSR> gg
[19:51] <DWSR> By default that configuration will export all of your users' home directories via NFS.
[19:52] <RomeoAva> Back, I need to fix the comp now. It's very uncomfortable to use it in low resolution display, the video projector can't be detected
[19:52] <RJ45> lol I like to download packages, them run them, soI have an archive for when I ever need to install again
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ChipsChallenge: fuduntu isn't supported here.....
[19:52] <RJ45> then*
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: that is the default behaviour
[19:52] <DWSR> RJ45: apt-get install downloads the package and caches it.
[19:52] <RJ45> my keyboard is plotting against me
[19:52] <DWSR> It already does what you're doing, except automatically.
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:52] <DWSR> ^^
[19:53] <bulletrulz>  hello
[19:53] <RJ45> ActionParsnip: I know, I still feel safe this way
[19:53] <RJ45> safer*
[19:53] <ChipsChallenge> ActionParsnip: thinking about switching to ubuntu, so just wanted to check if ubuntu has the same scrollbar 'issue'
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: you are doing something the OS already does, its not safer in any way, but if it makes you happy then fill your boots
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> ChipsChallenge: I suggest you run it in a liveCD desktop and see if you like it ;)
[19:54] <RJ45> where the commands say "/home/users" and "/export/users" do I actually put '/users' or do I replace that part with something?
[19:55] <younder> RJ45: NFS right
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: you can use the shorthand '~'  to mean /home/$USER   or you can also use $HOME
[19:55] <RJ45> younder: yes NFS
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> ah, never mind
[19:56] <RJ45> shorthand?
[19:56] <younder> RJ45: That part s fin it is that IP part that must change. use ifconfig to seee what your current IP address is. Or Newwork Information connections
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: yes, instead of typing cd /home/username/Downloads     you can type: cd ~/Downloads
[19:57] <wapmorgan> hi guys. don't anybody know why alx driver isn't included into the linux kernel? // I apologize for my English
[19:57] <younder> Never use relative path in a startup script. see dan farmer protecting your system by breaking into it
[19:58] <RJ45> ActionParsnip: I never know that, and have needed something like that for a lot of my BASH scripts!, that is a SEXY command!, thanks!
[19:58] <RJ45> knew*
[19:58] <bulletrulz> hi
[19:59] <bulletrulz> now to my main problem i have a problem with the icons of the window bordor!
[19:59] <RomeoAva> in Software source/Other Software I have to many lines, some are not check ed. I don't know  which  to be checked.
[20:00] <RomeoAva> I want to clean all of them and update the source.list
[20:02] <RJ45> how do I disable NFS when I don't want it no more?
[20:02] <RomeoAva> The Source code is not checked, in Software Sources. That's good?
[20:03] <jav77> hello, I checked the configuration on the Windows 7 side, and nvidia is set to 1882x1048 pixels. Currently, my nvidia driver 304.64 for the geforce gt 640 is set to 1920x1080 (same as my cable box),and the system settings say 72" TV (which is wrong). How can I change the resolution to 1880x1048 in ubuntu 12.04.1 (gnome shell 3.5.4)?
[20:03] <max999> how to find out about my netbooks fans? i get some lines with cooling when i run lm-sensors .. i dont have much in /proc/acpi
[20:03] <david201> is there any chat room about java troubleshooting ?
[20:04] <max999> david201, probe me
[20:04] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: that is good, yes
[20:04] <david201> max999 Okey, my problem is: when I apply a certain pattern which uses a certain delimiters the method split doesn't split at all
[20:05] <max999> david201, lets go to dialog
[20:05] <david201> okey
[20:05] <RJ45> jav77: I'd say 1920x1080 is more a correct resolution than 1882x1048.
[20:06] <jav77> yes, I agree, but I can't overscan or underscan so I cannot see the menu bar or side docks. So I need a way to change the size of the display
[20:06] <Aelingil> I am trying to have an ALIAS COMMAND show "text" then "Command".. Example alias krn "Kernel" uname -r  Every time i try it, i get an error telling me after "Kerne" it cannot run the command. Is there a different way to show text next to a command when calling aliases?
[20:07] <escott> Aelingil, you have been given the answer
[20:07] <Sab3r> any idea why my right mouse click doesnt work?
[20:08] <bjrohan> I just did an upgrade, and now I can not enable my wireless network card, help is greatly appreciated. I can not even turn it on via the keyboard on my Dell (fn + F10)
[20:09] <Aelingil> escott,  I tried your answer, when i type in krn it does not run. and when i reload my terminal i get errors. So either i typed it out wrong. Or the command does not fit into the aliases i have.
[20:09] <bjrohan> escott: Any ideas how to turn my wireless network radio back on? After an upgrade today + restart it is no longer working
[20:09] <escott> Aelingil, it cannot be done with an alias. it has to be a function. if you want us to look at the function you need to show it
[20:11] <escott> bjrohan, check rfkill
[20:11] <ehazlett> greetings.. i'm on 10.04 - i have firefox installed.  if i try to install flashplugin-installer,  it says it will remove firefox -- any ideas?
[20:11] <Aelingil> escott, Ah.. i did not get that info last time.. I was not doing functions i was messing with some Aliases to speed up what i'm typing out.
[20:12] <Aelingil> escott, again, thank you for your time :)
[20:12] <jrib> ehazlett: run sudo apt-get update, then pastebin the full output of your command when you attempt to install flashplugin-installer
[20:12] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, is there a chance how to retrieve document, when it was "rewriten" and libreoffice has been closed?
[20:13] <bjrohan> escott: sudo rfkill list all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428273/
[20:14] <almoxarife> DarkKnightCZ: look in /tmp
[20:14] <pawlo_231> hi, is there any way to control sound blaster x-fi?
[20:14] <pawlo_231> it's working out of the box, but I can't configure it
[20:15] <jrib> DarkKnightCZ: libreoffice usually offers to recover a document when you first start it up if it crashed or was killed in a "strange" way
[20:15] <DarkKnightCZ> it wasnt crashed, it was closed normally
[20:15] <jrib> DarkKnightCZ: and you saved your changes?  Now you want to undo the save?
[20:16] <DarkKnightCZ> yeah, exactly like that... libreoffice should keep that 15 minutes backup
[20:16] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271172
[20:17] <jrib> DarkKnightCZ: I don't know if it saves the undo history, but I assume you've opened the document up again and don't see the ability to undo.  You might try asking in #libreoffice
[20:17] <DarkKnightCZ> ok
[20:17] <jrib> ehazlett: apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer firefox
[20:18] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271187
[20:18] <pinguy> how do you login as root
[20:18] <ikonia> pinguy: using ping OS ?
[20:18] <ViaNocturna85> pinguy: dont, use sudo
[20:19] <jrib> ehazlett: probably some issue with the packaging.  What's the output of: apt-cache show flashplugin-installer
[20:19] <jav77> anyone have any ideas? I can't believe I can't set the scan values in the nvidia settings
[20:19] <sarahS> pinguy: that's a really bad idea
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> !root | pinguy
[20:19] <RomeoAva> I cleaned the Duplicate from Other Software but the eror is the same: duplicate
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> !sudo | pinguy
[20:19] <Catbuntu> Ciao
[20:19] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[20:19] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:19] <RomeoAva> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[20:19] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271205
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | RomeoAva
[20:19] <ikonia> maybe it helps if you check what actual OS he's using
[20:20] <ikonia> all the clones don't have the same sudo model before hitting him with random factoids
[20:20] <sarahS> does anyone know an image viewer app that can play animated gifs full screen?
[20:20] <TheLordOfTime> good point...
[20:20] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, if he's using any Ubuntu distribution (which we assume because he's in this channel) those factoids apply.
[20:20] <TheLordOfTime> no?
[20:20] <ViaNocturna85> ikonia: I thought he meant in Ubuntu since he asked it here, never heard of Ping OS
[20:20] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: no
[20:21] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: as it's a variant and some of them change things, especially around the sudo rules
[20:21] <jrib> ehazlett: hmm, what's this do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer firefox
[20:21] <ikonia> ViaNocturna85: its a sloppy distro, they don't appear to have changed the default xchat channel from #ubuntu to pingos channel
[20:21] <hornolio> good morning
[20:22] <ehazlett> jrib: http://d.pr/i/LOII
[20:22] <hornolio> i got a prolem i want to use ubuntu routing technique but not with those nasty <IP_ADDRESS> range, i got every where 192.168.0.x
[20:22] <ViaNocturna85> ikonia: It makes the support here a little difficult lol
[20:22] <ehazlett> jrib: so i probably just need to specify a specific version
[20:22] <RomeoAva> Please help me to fix that bug now. I trayed for 3 days already
[20:23] <RomeoAva> I'm here for that, waiting some instructions
[20:23] <TheLordOfTime> RomeoAva, pastebin your sources.list
[20:23] <pochefuok> good evening
[20:23] <RomeoAva> I done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[20:23] <jrib> ehazlett: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:23] <RomeoAva> and nothing
[20:23] <ViaNocturna85> pochefuok: hello
[20:23] <GandalfB> Hey Guys,  are there any Lampp experts here that can help with my lampp install on ubuntu
[20:23] <ikonia> GandalfB: what are you not clear on ?
[20:24] <jrib> !info flashplugin-installer lucid
[20:24] <GandalfB> Hi Ikonia
[20:24] <jrib> ehazlett: see, you should have 11.2... available
[20:24] <GandalfB> I'm trying to enable the curl extention
[20:24] <RomeoAva> i have pastebinit
[20:24] <jrib> ehazlett: could be your mirror
[20:24] <ikonia> GandalfB: the curl extention in what ?
[20:25] <GandalfB> in php5 I think
[20:25] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271256
[20:25] <ikonia> GandalfB: ok....go on
[20:25] <ehazlett> jrib: probably the ec2 mirror
[20:25] <ikonia> explain your issue
[20:25] <GandalfB> I've uncommented extension=php_curl.dll on my php.ini - as per instructions
[20:25] <RomeoAva> sudo apt-get update pastebinit
[20:25] <GandalfB> but when I restert my lamp webserver
[20:25] <jrib> ehazlett: you can throw lucid-updates multiverse into your sources.list if you want.  But it doesn't seem like you should need to according to ubottu
[20:25] <ikonia> GandalfB: what instructions are you using ?
[20:25] <GandalfB> it starts up fine
[20:26] <ehazlett> jrib: ok
[20:26] <jrib> ehazlett: changing mirror will probably resolve the issue (try)
[20:26] <GandalfB> but the files are not being served.  its downloading index.php when I goto localhost
[20:26] <gandhijee_> hello.  does anyone know how to change the color depth with an xorg.conf file or having to restart X?
[20:26] <GandalfB> after un comment it
[20:26] <GandalfB> I find the instructions
[20:26] <GandalfB> now
[20:26] <GandalfB> one sec
[20:26] <FloodBot1> GandalfB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <ikonia> GandalfB: ok - that doesn't sound like anything to do with curl
[20:27] <ikonia> GandalfB: that sounds like you don't have the php module enabled in apache and/or you don't have the extension .php set in the application handler in apache
[20:28] <aaas> what's going on here:  http://pastebin.com/9jx6Vfyt  I can't find a process idea for a running process... could this be upstart related?
[20:28] <ehazlett> jrib: yep adding lucid-updates worked -- thx!
 ho to do pastebinit, please
[20:29] <RomeoAva> it is sometink like sudo apt-get update pastebinit
[20:29] <Pici> RomeoAva: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:29] <RomeoAva> thanks pici
[20:30] <RomeoAva> pici I nhave it
[20:30] <RomeoAva> I want to have the raport from Terminal
[20:30] <GandalfB> These are the instructions I'm following - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3020049/how-to-enable-curl-in-xampp
[20:31] <ikonia> GandalfB: that is not lamp
[20:31] <Pici> RomeoAva: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:31] <ikonia> GandalfB: that is xammp
[20:31] <marianne> anyone know if 5.1 surround sound can be set up on 12.04... I'm open to buying a new sound card
[20:31] <RomeoAva> pici ok
[20:31] <ikonia> GandalfB: hence why it says "xampp" not "lamp"
[20:31] <Pici> GandalfB: Did you install xampp? or did you install apache2 from our software repositories?
[20:31] <bobweaver> Does anyone know how to add a setting to dbus like if I want to add option for" com.canonical.Unity.Launcher" " color " thanks
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> aaas: try:  ps -ef | grep tv      instead of:  ps -A | grep tvheadend
   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428315/
[20:32] <GandalfB> ikonia, I'm trying to find some reliable instructions on how to enable / install it.   From the reading I've done it seemed like it was pre-packeds with LAMPP (Xampp for linux).   I 'm wonderng if I'm wasting time with Lammp and whether it would be simpler to install apache, php etc seperatly
[20:32] <aaas> ActionParsnip same thing  (only shows the grep command)
[20:32] <bobweaver> aaas, what about    ps aux | grep tv
[20:32] <ikonia> GandalfB: the product is called "LAMP" not "LAMPP" - you may find better results if you use the right name to search
 I done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[20:32] <aaas> bobweaver same thing
[20:32] <ikonia> GandalfB: xammpp works different than a LAMP install
[20:33] <bobweaver> aaas, then it is not running ?
[20:33] <ikonia> xammp even
[20:33] <GandalfB> I installed LAMPP from http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#377
[20:33] <ikonia> xampp
[20:33] <RomeoAva> there is no any duplicate but the eror is stil there
[20:33] <aaas> bobweaver then why does 'start' say it is?
[20:33] <david201> Ubuntu or devian for desktop low knowledged users?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> aaas: does servce have a verbose option?
[20:33] <ikonia> GandalfB: what part of "it's called LAMP" am I not making clear, anything not called LAMP is different
[20:33] <GandalfB> but I've been struggling to find relavent help for lampp, which tells me how to enable curl
[20:33] <ikonia> GandalfB: hence why that URL says "xampp"
[20:33] <Pici> ikonia: apachefriends calls their install LAMPP
[20:33] <aaas> ActionParsnip  ill have to look into that
[20:34] <ikonia> Pici: yes, but this is not a "LAMP" install
[20:34] <RomeoAva> and the problem is the same. the comp is not opening, stais in purple color. I need to reboot 2-3 times and goes in low resolution
[20:34] <ikonia> its even called xampp in the URL
[20:34] <aaas> ActionParsnip but this seems like a service independent problem
[20:34] <bobweaver> aaas,  you have tried to killall tvheadend   && start tvheadend   ?
[20:34] <jav77> help please?
[20:34] <GandalfB> ah I see it been renamed to Xampp for linux
[20:34] <Pici> GandalfB: I highly suggest you not using the apachefriends install.  The packages that we provide in our repositories are guaranteed to be updated for security fixes, you get no such coverage with your LAMPP/XAMPP install.
[20:34] <ikonia> why are you not using a standard LAMP install ?
[20:35] <Pici> GandalfB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP has all the information you need to install a LAMP stack on Ubuntu.
[20:35] <GandalfB> right ok - Pici thanks
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Pici: Or rather they used to call it LAMPP, before they realized that causing confusion like we've seen here is not a great idea, and now they call it "XAMPP for Linux".
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> jav77: what is the issue?
[20:35] <Pici> Jordan_U: Ah.
[20:35] <aaas> bobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428324/
[20:35] <sbaugh> Ubuntu doesn't seem to be remembering my wireless password, it asks for it every time (It remembers the username though)
[20:36] <RomeoAva> TheLordOfTime I think I have to many repository in Other Software
[20:36] <aaas> it's some strange upstart thing probably
[20:36] <bobweaver> aaas,  I have no clue maybe it is called something else ?
[20:36] <GandalfB> I see - thanks Jordan_U,  sorry for causing confusion.
[20:36] <aaas> im sure tvheadend is not functioning correctly.... but its weird that it works this way
[20:37] <bobweaver> aaas,  I like tv what is tvhead ?
[20:37] <bobweaver> got a link ?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> !info tvhead
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> !find tvhead
[20:37] <jav77> the issue is that I cannot resize my display with the nvidia driver (no overscan or underscan) and I cannot see the menu or docks
[20:37] <aaas> bobweaver it's a pvr backend
[20:37] <aaas> bobweaver for llive tv
[20:37] <bobweaver> aaas,  uses mysql for storage of meta data ect ?
[20:37] <GandalfB> I choose XAMPP for linux to have easy to setup installation  -
[20:38] <bobweaver> aaas,  like myth-tv ?
[20:38] <ViaNocturna85> RomeoAva: Could you paste the error from 'sudo apt-get update'?
[20:38] <aaas> bobweaver yeah like mythtv but much faster channel swtiching
[20:38] <GandalfB> I'm going to go away and do some reading, thanks guys
[20:38] <Pici> GandalfB: To be honest, I find the xampp install to be stranger than our install.
[20:38] <bobweaver> aaas,  ever think about joining the channel #ubuntu-tv ?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> jav77: if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings      set the resolution and refresh to something, click 'Save to X config file', then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     in the screen section set the res you desire. Save the new file, close gedit and reboot
[20:39] <aaas> bobweaver ill try that maybe they'll have some insight thanks
[20:39] <bobweaver> aaas,  I am sure that one of will
[20:40] <ikonia> GandalfB: you will hit nothing but longer term pain using xampp
[20:40] <ikonia> and you won't get support from channels such as this one
   http://pastebin.com/LK3sLzKS
[20:43] <jav77> thank you. How do I enable ac3 and dolby digital passthrough?
[20:43] <jav77> i remember having to do something with asound.conf and installing alsa plugins or something
[20:44] <ViaNocturna85> RomeoAva: give me a moment while i check that
[20:44] <RomeoAva> thanks so much
[20:45] <RomeoAva> I have about one hour already
[20:46] <RomeoAva> checking the prices for windoz 8
[20:46] <max999> i would not even use windows 8 if THEY pay ME ;)
[20:46] <ikonia> it's called "Windows"
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> jav77: did you get the res sorted?
[20:47] <jav77> not yet. I wanted to deal with sound before rebooting
[20:49] <ViaNocturna85> RomeoAva: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: can you give the output of:   grep -R partner /etc/apt/*     Thanks
[20:49] <RomeoAva> ubuntu 12.10
 how to do that?
[20:50] <RomeoAva> please
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: run the command, make a pastebin of the text
[20:50] <RomeoAva> ok
[20:52] <RomeoAva> http://pastebin.com/NP427k7n
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list.save /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list.distUpgrade /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: those files are of no value to you
[20:54] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: the fix is shown here, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/ , you have duplicate 'partner' repos
[20:55] <pete_> glusterfs
[20:55] <jav77> the display change did not work. What I did see is that at the log on screen the resolution and size are correct
 done. nothing happened
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
 I told you, I have done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: the first command simply trimmed some useless files
 the same eror came
[20:57] <RomeoAva> ok
[20:57] <p0e> is there any practical difference with having a boot/swap partition coming after root, as opposed to before it?
[20:58] <RomeoAva> what next?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: ok, rerun:  grep -R partner /etc/apt/*     and pastebin the text again please
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> p0e: none at all, it doesn't matter
[20:58] <p0e> i didnt think so
[20:58] <RomeoAva> is shorter
[20:58] <gaussblurinc> hello! does anybody knows good utility to restore deleted files?
[20:58] <jav77> i also noticed that in the log on screen, my tv goes to Wide PC. Once I log on, it goes to Just Scan (my preferred option). How can I change these settings? Where did the overscan bar go from Nvidia
[20:58] <tontimer> Hi
[20:59] <RomeoAva> http://pastebin.com/MmN3tJjx
[20:59] <p0e> if i'm dual booting with 7 do i need to specify a /boot partition, or will it use the windows reserved one? i'm reading 2 different guides and one says to do it, and once says not necessary
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> gaussblurinc  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list; sudo apt-get update        and you'll be fine
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: try using your backups
[21:00] <RomeoAva> :)
[21:00] <gaussblurinc> ActionParsnip: backups... are they automatic nowdays?
[21:00] <tontimer> I bought a laptop with an AMD Radeon™ HD 7310  but I cannot get fglrx drivers to work. I've tried the AMD beta drivers 12.11 (beta11) and didn't work. Unity won't start (neither lightdm). Any ideas?
[21:00] <Pe3k> hello, I have ubuntu 12.04, and automated mounting does not work, I am able to mount attached usb drive manually using udisks. udisks-daemon is running, also gvfs-afc-volume-monitor is running, any idea what else to check ?
[21:01] <RomeoAva> you right: Reading package lists... Done
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: no but if your data is important, you will ave made backups
[21:01] <RomeoAva> no error
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: read the 2nd pastebin, you can see why I advised how I did
[21:01] <gaussblurinc> ActionParsnip: I just lost one directory :\
[21:01] <RomeoAva> ok
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: I suggest you look into a backup regime
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: you will now need a partition mounted writable with the same size as the partition you are recoving from and use foremost in liveCD
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> gaussblurinc  this could be an automatic backup command in crontab  # 0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/
[21:04] <RomeoAva> I read it 3 times, but I did't catch   :(
[21:05] <Jordan_U> p0e: Neither, unless you're talking about UEFI and the EFI System Partition.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: each file used ends in '.list'   you have 2 .list files with the partner repo named, one is the main sources.list file, the other is an extra file. So you deleted that file and cleared the issue
[21:05] <p0e> jordan, i'm too old to konw what you're talking about lol
[21:05] <RomeoAva> ok, now I see, thank you
[21:05] <gaussblurinc> MonkeyDust: uh, thank you, but it commented anyway :\
[21:06] <gaussblurinc> ActionParsnip: foremost?
[21:06] <RomeoAva> now is time to check. I will reboot to see what is going on
[21:06] <p0e> i have sd1/nfts winboot, sda2/nfs windows, so sda3 goes ext4 for linux, with sda4 being split into logical to have swap/boot? and thats it?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: yes, foremost
[21:07] <RomeoAva> so simple :)
[21:07] <RomeoAva> brb
[21:07] <JadeKnight> I get the same issue on booting.
[21:08] <Jordan_U> p0e: I recommend using the automatic partitioning in Ubuntu's installer, which will set things up properly. If you want to know though, you almost never need a separate /boot/ partition. If you're using BIOS + an msdos partition table, then you only need the one root partition and a swap partition (or swap file), if you're using BIOS + GPT then you need a BIOS Boot Partition (which is *not* a /boot/ partition), and if you're using ...
[21:08] <Jordan_U> ... UEFI then you need an EFI System Partition (which is also not a /boot/ partition).
[21:09] <JadeKnight> When i boot the system, half the screen goes black.
[21:09] <p0e> i see. at the moment i've only installed win7 and have everything else as unallocated, if I want to create a NFTS dump with the bulk of that space then just create it at the end of the drive and use ubuntu to automatically allocate the middle?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> romeoAva: Its Linux, it is simple :)
[21:11] <RomeoAva> I'm back. the same problem. Low resolution. And in Displays is only (4:3) aviable. I can't change it. But the mouse is not blinking and the desktop is clear
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: what video chip? What make and model system?
[21:12] <pilotbub> how about that Twitter rape of 12-12-12?
[21:12] <guntbert> pilotbub: wrong window
[21:13] <pilotbub> they ruined the world's vintage profiles
[21:13] <Pici> pilotbub: this is the Ubuntu support channel. you're in the wrong place.
[21:13] <RomeoAva> Acer Aspire 5742G, Intel Core i5-480M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[21:14] <RomeoAva> but the comp runs very well until 7 days ago
[21:14] <RomeoAva> after a regular dayly update
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: oh, you have that Optimus garbage
[21:14] <RomeoAva> sorry
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: thats a tonne of headaches in Linux
[21:14] <msk__> hi guys i am having some problems with wireless from my lenovo z570 laptop, it says wireless disabled by hardware switch what should i do,
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: look into Bumblebee but it's far from good.
[21:15] <RomeoAva> I was thisnking I will runn with GeForce
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: if you can, disable one of the GPUs
[21:15] <guntbert> msk__: enable the hardware switch?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: your Intel has an inbuilt GPU: http://ark.intel.com/products/52952
[21:16] <RomeoAva> i know
[21:16] <msk__> guntbert sure i did :D i try mint 13 live cd, it works but not at ubuntu 12.04
[21:17] <RomeoAva> I didn't install the video driver after udgrade to 12.10
[21:17] <RomeoAva> I have it only in 12.04
[21:18] <guntbert> msk__: strange, (I am blessed with a wifi thats always working (T60)) - so no help from me, sorry
[21:18] <RomeoAva> I know is a trick with NVIDIA driver, but I miss the link about
[21:18] <Guest91312> Ive got a dual boot with wubi of windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04. I accidentally set the windows boot loader to boot to ubuntu automatically. Can I fix this in Ubuntu?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: its rare for proprietary video drivers to survive a release change
[21:18] <RomeoAva> :)
[21:19] <msk__> guntbert it is ok, itried everything from ho to's i ll destroy ubuntu dvd right now :/
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: I recommend you uninstall the driver, reboot to the new kernel then reinstall it
[21:19] <RomeoAva> what driver?
[21:19] <RomeoAva> I didn't install it
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: so you are using nouveau/
[21:20] <marianne> anyone out there running 5.1 surround sound on 12.04?
[21:20] <RomeoAva> I has so happy with 12.10 because my Samsung Multy laser Scanner works perfectly at start
[21:21] <RomeoAva> because in 12.04 I can't use the scanner and I trayed so many nights to fixe it
[21:21] <hunger993> Hey guys. So I used a USB CD drive, and now my mouse sticks about once a second even after i unplugged it. It happened when i was using windows xp too, but it would go away after i unplugged it. and i have rebooted since i removed the drive.
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: could go for a clean install of quantal rather than an upgrade
[21:21] <RomeoAva> the Skye, the webcam, the printer, the scanner,, all works at start
[21:22] <RomeoAva> :(
[21:22] <RomeoAva> but worked
[21:23] <RomeoAva> lets tray to fix it
[21:23] <Slart> hunger993: no error messages in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log?
[21:23] <RomeoAva> Linux is simple
[21:23] <RomeoAva> just simple
[21:24] <hunger993> slart: how do i check?
[21:24] <RomeoAva> I use Ubuntu for 4 years and 4 mounts already
[21:24] <pgib> Depends on what you mean by "simple" and by "Linux"
[21:24] <Slart> hunger993: run this in a terminal     tail /var/log/syslog     you'll get the last 10 lines from the syslog file
[21:25] <p0e> bill clinton would also ask what the definition of "is" is
[21:26] <RomeoAva> I need to make it function because my friend will laugh at me
[21:26] <hunger993> Slart: Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Successfully made thread 2229 of process 2194 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Supervising 5 threads of 2 processes of 2 users.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Successfully made thread 2230 of process 2194 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Supervising 6 threads of 2 processes of 2 users.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:50 hunger993-Latitude-D430 NetworkManager[782]: <info> (wlan0): IP6 addrconf timed out or failed.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:50 hunger993-Latitude-D430 NetworkManager[782]: <info> Activation (wlan0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
[21:26] <FloodBot1> hunger993: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <pgib> right. but "linux" is such an overloaded term nowadays. I couldn't really agree that it is "Simple", not even if you limit the definition to only the kernel.
[21:26] <Slart> hunger993: no no no.. don't paste it into the channel.. there are almost 2000 people here.. they don't want to see that
[21:26] <Slart> !pastebin | hunger993
[21:27] <hunger993> sorry floodbot
[21:27] <hunger993> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428438/
[21:27] <Slart> hunger993: hmm.. nothing strange there
[21:28] <hunger993> slart: so. What do?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> hunger993: you can disable ipv6 using the boot option:   ipv6.disable=1
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> hunger993: i assume you don't use ipv6
[21:29] <hunger993> not that i know of
[21:29] <Slart> hunger993: I would try another mouse and see if the problem persists.. it might be a software problem or it might just be a semi-broken mouse
[21:30] <RomeoAva> About my Software Source/ Other Software, I think there are to many repository. Sam untick. How to be shore is ok?
[21:30] <Slart> hunger993: also I would try cleaning the mouse sensor, replace batteries and such
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: there is no limit, you can have as many as you want :)
[21:30] <hunger993> its my trackpad. same thing happens with the nub mouse on the keyboard
[21:30] <RomeoAva> ok
[21:30] <Slart> hunger993: the thing with the cd drive might just a be random coincidence
[21:31] <krnlpanick> greets all
[21:31] <hunger993> Slart: well it happend when i ran xp, but it would go away after i unplugged
[21:31] <Slart> hunger993: ah.. they both act the same? then it sounds like a software problem.. but you got the same thing in windows?
[21:32] <krnlpanick> Seems like download servers are going ridiculously slow today - anyone else having issues? getting 20k/m on 12.10-server :(
[21:32] <hunger993> Slart: yep
[21:32] <p0e> krnlpanick, i just downloaded about 30min, was ~1.5mb
[21:32] <srccon> My iPhone just died, should I wait for ubuntu for android to come out "soon"
[21:32] <RomeoAva> I remember the problems starts  a few days ago when I turn off the comp and there was an warning: the Gnome is not finis yet or is not responding. But I close it any way. Do you think cud be that?
[21:32] <Slart> hunger993: odd.. the only thing I can think of that might show up in both windows and linux would be some kind of interrupt problem.. not really sure how to diagnose something like that
[21:32] <p0e> but the stream kept failing and i'd have to manually restart it every 30-60sec
[21:33] <RomeoAva> because was stuck
[21:34] <hunger993> Slart: it seems like its slowly getting better, like now its once every 3 seconds. which is almost stranger than the problem itself
[21:34] <RomeoAva> when I sad that the resolution is bad that means I cant use the laptop for video projector. The Display settings is not properly working
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: I anticipate lots of issues with display
[21:35] <younder> RomeoAva, they never are are they
[21:35] <younder> RomeoAva, Are you sure you got the UNIX version?
[21:35] <RomeoAva> but worked very well
[21:36] <RomeoAva> ?
[21:36] <RomeoAva> what you meand?
[21:36] <pgib> hunger993, you could check to see if it is some poisoned configuration in your gnome, gtk, or X settings.  Create another user and log in as them.  Perhaps something is bogus in your "dot config" files
[21:37] <younder> RomeoAva, You know Ubuntu is a Unix system right. So you need Unix dirvers
[21:37] <RomeoAva> tomorow I need to use the videoprojector then I need to fix it
[21:37] <younder> You haven't got one.. well It won't work. simple as tht
[21:38] <RomeoAva> ok
[21:38] <hunger993> pgib: i will try. brblol
[21:38] <RomeoAva> how can we fix that bug, please
[21:38] <RomeoAva> any tray?
[21:38] <pgib> http://i.qkme.me/35bcci.jpg It's a Unix system!
[21:38] <RomeoAva> my wife is waiting for the comp, but I sat that I need to fix it
[21:39] <RomeoAva> then I'm here for you
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: use bumblebee but you'll probably have issues, its best avoided
[21:39] <RomeoAva> yes this is
[21:39] <RomeoAva> now I remeber the agly name
[21:39] <lime__> Why doesn't the following work for assigning a keyboard click to a keyboard key?
[21:40] <krnlpanick> anyone - slow downloads today? don't think it is my interwebz, I have no problem d/ling other stuff
[21:40] <younder> That said Ubuntu has some of the dtrongest hardware support of ny linux system. That , in fact, is why I prefer it
[21:40] <krnlpanick> 20k/s is sloooowwww
[21:40] <lime__> xmodma -e "syskey a = PointerButton_1"
[21:40] <younder> It is.. I do 1500
[21:40] <Cliche> I have a question regarding GRUB?
[21:41] <RomeoAva> we can't fix the gnome? or the Unity?
[21:41] <younder> Cliche, GRUB or GRUB2
[21:41] <RomeoAva> to check if is ok?
[21:42] <younder> They are vastly different
[21:42] <RomeoAva> can we check the entire 12.10 if has isues and what one?
[21:42] <Cliche> I had Ubuntu installed beside Win7 before, but had uninstalled it after a while. However, Ubuntu was still an option (deadlink) upon system boot. So, I reinstalled Ubuntu and now I have two Ubuntu options. One of which works, the other is a deadlink. How do I fix this issue?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: could install xfce4 and then log in to that from LightDM
[21:43] <younder> RomeoAva,  we can and will.. We are the sotware comunity. Be vigilant!
[21:43] <younder> RomeoAva,  lol
[21:43] <RomeoAva> :)
[21:43] <RomeoAva> I'm here
[21:44] <RomeoAva> Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
[21:45] <RomeoAva> i dont like it
[21:45] <RomeoAva> unity is beter
[21:46] <test> USB CD drive sticky mouse problem guy is back
[21:46] <RomeoAva> how I can check the Unity, and fix it?
[21:47] <hunger993> Slarg: i logged out and back in under a new user. still sticks
[21:47] <tontimer> Hi, I bought a laptop with an AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 graphics card but I cannot get fglrx drivers to work. I've tried the AMD beta drivers 12.11 (beta11) and didn't work either. Unity won't start (neither lightdm). Any ideas?
[21:48] <RomeoAva> but??? maybe I have the bumblebee? How can we see?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: if you press CTRL+ALT+T   does a terminal load?
[21:49] <tontimer> nope
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: is the system fully updated?
[21:50] <younder> A;MD is generarally worse supported than NVIDEA
[21:50] <tontimer> yes
[21:50] <tontimer> fully updated
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> younder: not much less nowadays :)
[21:50] <younder> That's al I can say having a GTX 680 myself
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> younder: its nvidia too, not nvidea
[21:50] <tontimer> ActionParsnip: i did a fresh ubuntu 12.10install, updated everything and then I tried to install the propietary drivers
[21:51] <younder> ActionParsnip, glad you said that. How is the support for the AMD radeon HD  7310 anyhow
[21:52] <younder> Thought so
[21:52] <Zodihax> I installed ubuntu on my 2nd SSD with windows still being on my first SSD, but upon trying to boot my first SSD now, windows doesnt boot.. all thats happening is the blinking "-"
[21:53] <Zodihax> anyone happen to know whats wrong and how to fix it?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> younder: no idea, I only buy nvidia things
[21:53] <younder> ActionParsnip, Mee too
[21:53] <Zodihax> and when attempting to boot windows from grub on the 2nd SSD, im left with "invalid EFI path" (or something like that)
[21:53] <ironhalik> With multi-monitor setup, how can I make the launcher to not intercept my mouse when crossing between two displays?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> younder: did you run:  sudo aticonfig --initial    before rebooting?
[21:54] <DWSR> halp? http://pastebin.com/xzUYW8k3
[21:54] <M13> hello
[21:54] <srccon> My phone just died, should I wait for Ubuntu for android before buying a replacement?
[21:54] <ironhalik> In CCSM, I set all the launcher variables to 1, and it should be working bow, but it does not
[21:54] <younder> ActionParsnip For change I tried a AMD card in two months, two, it broke, and I was sendt back to onboard graphics
[21:54] <M13> how do you make a website on a Ubuntu Server
[21:55] <_andyj_> ironhalik: settings -> appearance -> sticky edges
[21:55] <M13> ?
[21:55] <DWSR> srccon: Ubuntu for Android? You're hilarious
[21:55] <DWSR> srccon: get out, troll.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> M13: install apache2
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: its being developed
[21:55] <M13> and I can runa website?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> M13: yes
[21:55] <ironhalik> _andyj_: It's not it, I'm using launcher autohide, so it catches the mouse trying to reveal the launcher
[21:55] <srccon> ?DWSR, should I go to a Android IRC?
[21:55] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: You do realize how completely dumb "Ubuntu for Android" is?
[21:55] <M13> ok thnx
[21:55] <younder> ActionParsnip, True It was a cheap card, but..
[21:56] <DWSR> Ubuntu for Android is like saying Linux for Linux.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: its not, you run both OSes, new android phones have anough power to run Ubuntu
[21:56] <_andyj_> ironhalik: oh, not sure how to get rid of that one
[21:56] <DWSR> Ubuntu for Android is like saying Linux for Linux.
[21:56] <ironhalik> also, my CCSM had all the plugins disabled for some reason - maybe it's not working properly?
[21:56] <srccon> DWSR True, it is technically linux on linux
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY   go see the future
[21:57] <srccon> ActionParsnip what is your take on the Ubuntu for Android
[21:57] <xatr0z> After installing some updates on Ubuntu 12.10 and removing samba and installing samba4 from repository, everything worked fine. Next day after reboot I can't login via the GUI and also via the commandline and SSH. However: when I try to login with username xatr0z and some madup password, it says "Login incorrect", and below that I can try to login again. IF I use my CORRECT password I _DONT_ see "Login incorrect", but the entire screen is cleared before I ...
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> younder: I think its exciting
[21:57] <xatr0z> ... can enter my username again. Does anybody know what mightve gone wrong? It's the only useraccount so I can't test with another one.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> srccon: I think its exciting
[21:58] <DWSR> anyone? http://pastebin.com/xzUYW8k3
[21:58] <Steve132> I try to connect a USB 3.0 hard drive...it works on USB 2.0 port, but when I connect to USB 3.0 port nothing happens.   Here's dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428504/
[21:58] <younder> Linux is linux. windows is windosw. etc. we all are fans of something. I generallly like the idea of open sotftware. So I am fore linux
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: Ubuntu is a distribution, it runs in the background. Linux is only the kernel
[21:58] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu shouldn't require recompiling for Android, then.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: what is the output of:    lsb_release -sc
[21:58] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: err, porting rather
[21:59] <DWSR> It should require just recompiling for ARM.  They're just a rewrite. This doesn't make the project any less pointless.
[21:59] <DWSR> But anyway.
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: anyway
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: what is the output of:    lsb_release -sc
[22:00] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: I'm on precise.
[22:00] <younder> GNU/LINUX is te base of ALL linuxen. Your call.. Your blessing.. You should rejoice ;)
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: run:   echo "libc6-dev hold" | dpkg --set-selections; apt-get -f install        as root
[22:01] <younder> sorry for the PEP talk but you seem to have forgotten why we are all here..
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: source: http://ilostmynotes.blogspot.in/
[22:01] <younder> I LOVE my Ubuntu
[22:02] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Lovely.
[22:02] <Steve132> Any thoughts on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428504/ ?  Googling the -108 error doesn't seem to get any solutions,
[22:02] <DWSR> younder: We're going to gloss over the fact that design paradigms for mobile/touchscreen vs. traditional desktop are completely different, then gloss over the fact that you're not really running Ubuntu ON Android as much as just running Gnome on Android.
[22:03] <DWSR> younder: But yes. Completely the same thing.
[22:03] <younder> I know it to it's deepest core as a hacker (not cracker) should and try to be helpful here.
[22:04] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Any idea why the issue arises?
[22:04] <younder> DWSR, No I am not. ut we will overcome those pproblems
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: no idea at all
[22:04] <DWSR> younder: They're not problems. They're just inherent design differences.
[22:04] <younder> True
[22:04] <DWSR> younder: I'm merely pointing out that you're not porting Ubuntu to Android.
[22:05] <younder> DWSR, No I am not
[22:05] <DWSR> The whole project isn't.
[22:06] <DWSR> Also, if Android is already GNU/Linux, why the fuss over thed drivers. You already ahve a Linux kernel loaded. Can't you just piggy back?
[22:06] <DWSR> This seems like it should be hilariously easy as compared to some other projects I've seen
[22:06] <younder> DWSR, http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: there will be an amount of porting. Otherwise it would be fully available now
[22:06] <younder> lol
[22:06] <Pe3k> hello, pls help, I uninstalled udisks and after restart I am not able to start X session - after entering password only for short time text mode is displayed and then it switches back to login screen ...
[22:07] <dr_willis> !info udisks
[22:07] <younder> I kinda expected as much. The Ubuntu comunity if about 1000 000 people by now.
[22:07] <zodihax> i installed ubuntu on a second ssd while keeping windows on my first ssd.. now after installing ubuntu i cant launch windows neither via booting the first ssd nor by grub.. anyone happen to know whats wrong? thanks
[22:07] <dr_willis> Pe3k:  canyou login at teh console? tried making a new user to see if they can login>
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> zodihax: your Grub2 should be able to boot Windows
[22:08] <zodihax> it says something about wrong EFI path
[22:08] <zodihax> grub2 that is
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> zodihax: if you didn't overwrite the MBR for Windows, you can set the boot device to the 1st SSD and it should boot
[22:08] <escott> zodihax, was the first ssd gpt/EFI?
[22:08] <younder> You erased that EFI.. shudder?
[22:09] <Pe3k> dr_willis: I havent tried this, but there is also guest session and it behaves exactly same
[22:09] <zodihax> im unsure whether it was gpt/EFI sorry.. and ActionParsnip no I cant boot windows by selecting that SSD as a boot device (im stuck with a blinking "-")
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> !efi
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> gah
[22:09] <escott> zodihax, can you boot to the usb installer and run "sudo parted -l" for us
[22:09] <dr_willis> Pe3k:  why did you Uninstall udisks?  try reinstalling the ubuntu default disk with 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' perhaps
[22:09] <younder> I have got around this but it goes into that advanced partioning tool at the strt
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> zodihax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[22:10] <younder> Are ouy ready to take that on?
[22:10] <zodihax> partition table: msdos
[22:10] <c_smith> zodihax, I've had similar issues, are you running 12.10 or 12.04?
[22:10] <younder> I always use non standard partioning for my discs
[22:10] <zodihax> 12.10
[22:11] <younder> Worked a miracle for me
[22:11] <zodihax> its weird though as my windows SSD shouldnt have been affected by me installing ubuntu on another disk right? it kinda sucks too, i sort of need my windows to practice for my programming exams
[22:11] <c_smith> zodihax, does it say either "Secure Boot not enabled" or "Secure Boot enabled" on boot of the LiveCD?
[22:11] <younder> I aslo managed the effi problem
[22:12] <c_smith> if it says one of those, then you know it's UEFI
[22:12] <Pe3k> dr_willis: because automated mounting was not working and this was 'succesful' way how to correct it - uninstall and back install - but this did not help me - and - weird thing - after installing udisks-daemon is not running :(
[22:12] <zodihax> im pretty sure its UEFI, as the ubuntu disk has a UEFI label on it in BIOS
[22:12] <c_smith> if it doesn't, it most likely means it was either a poorly implemented or faked UEFI implemented.
[22:12] <escott> zodihax, are both msdos? or is only one msdos the other gpt?
[22:12] <younder> You need a UFFI artion choose the smallest. about 200 M
[22:12] <zodihax> my windows is msdos, linux is gpt
[22:13]  * c_smith is confused
[22:13] <younder> Then don't f*** with it
[22:13] <c_smith> are you talking partitions or disks?
[22:13] <dr_willis> Pe3k:  also as a test. install some alternative window manager/desktop such as openbox, or lubuntu-desktop see if you can login to those
[22:13] <zodihax> sudo parted -l
[22:13] <escott> zodihax, my guess would be that the system is prefering to boot the second ssd in efi mode b/c it is gpt
[22:13] <zodihax> shows one of my ssds as gpt and one as msdos
[22:13] <Pe3k> dr_willis: ok I will try..
[22:13] <c_smith> zodihax, ah, I see.
[22:14] <c_smith> zodihax, you COULD try a new installation of Ubuntu and manually set up the EFI partition.
[22:14] <zodihax> sorry, im trying to cooperate but i havent used ubuntu in three years and im kind of stressed out by this all atm :D
[22:14] <escott> zodihax, and that may be messing things up for the bios mode windows. i would go into efi setup and force the boot to bios, then chroot into the installed linux system and remove grub-efi and install grub
[22:14] <c_smith> not the most convenient, but still.
[22:15] <fabricio_> Hey, I seen to have a very bad problem, I accidentally did install a older version of WINE on my Linux, and now I cant update or remove it, dependencies broken....
[22:15] <zodihax> hm yeah i thought abiout that actually.. but i cant find any option to disable UEFI or force bios in my bios-setup thing
[22:15] <escott> zodihax, if you dont mind reinstalling linux that could be easier
[22:15] <fabricio_> How I can fix it?
[22:15] <zodihax> i did just reinstall ubuntu actually, i selected "erase 12.10 and install" though
[22:15] <c_smith> fabricio_, sudo apt-get purge wine && sudo apt-get install wine
[22:15] <escott> zodihax, go into efi setup, and change the boot preference for the usb flash drive to bios (it is probably set as efi) then reinstall ubuntu (it should set things up for bios mode)
[22:15] <zodihax> i dont mind if i cant boot windows from grub, i just want to be able to boot windows when i select that particular disk as a boot device
[22:15] <c_smith> fabricio_, enter those into Terminal.
[22:15] <fabricio_> But the dependencies of wine are broken, I will test that anyways
[22:16] <fabricio_> Hold on okay?
[22:16] <younder> The only way to TRULY erase if to reformat
[22:16] <escott> zodihax, trying to switch disks and boot methods is going to be a problem
[22:16] <younder> just so you know
[22:16] <escott> zodihax, you want both ubuntu and windows to boot bios not efi
[22:16] <zodihax> escott ok ill try to do that then, anything else I should think about while doing it?
[22:16] <c_smith> fabricio_, let me change that, sudo apt-get purge wine && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install wine
[22:16] <fabricio_> Okay, I did not have any problems by now
[22:17] <zodihax> and tips on how I may configure my USB to boot bios in efi setup? im not exactly experienced in there
[22:17] <c_smith> fabricio_, that will get rid of wine, then the unneeded dependencies, then reinstall Wine from the repos.
[22:17] <zodihax> actually ill just try, and come back again.. thanks for the help guys, cu in a few if i cant figure it out :)
[22:17] <max999> fabricio_, you could just install playonlinux. its an app that allows you to install a lot of programs (not only games) that would be troublesome without and to manage as many wine versions at once as u wish (you can select for each application with which wine version you want it to run).
[22:17] <fabricio_> It WORKED! Thanks man
[22:17] <c_smith> fabricio_, no prob.
[22:17] <fabricio_> Thanks very much C_smith
[22:18] <younder> my recommendation is to get rid of that narly windows
[22:18] <c_smith> fabricio_, I just wouldn't recommend using that all the time.
[22:18] <younder> But, hey, thats me
[22:18] <c_smith> I've managed to bork up my system by purging Wine, wanted to remove Grub along with Wine and a bunch of other system apps.
[22:19] <fabricio_> Wine it removed the old version and did install the version that actually dont let any thing broke?
[22:19] <escott> zodihax, can't say what your efi setup menu will look like
[22:19] <c_smith> fabricio_, if you want, I can explain what that command, well, actually the 3 commands did.
[22:19] <fabricio_> Holy mother of god, I need to download the 365 MB of updates on my Linux 12.04 LTS
[22:19] <c_smith> && is basically bash shorthand.  I wish I was a windows machine -) Well YOU ARE NOT :) YOU ARE A UNIX MACHINE :)
[22:20] <c_smith> fabricio_, not unheard of.
[22:20] <fabricio_> I have windows  :P
[22:20] <c_smith> younder, it's his choice......
[22:20] <max999> i made any program i wanted to run on linux yet
[22:20] <fabricio_> LTS is a Long Term Version, or a version of ubuntu that have extended support for 2/3 years
[22:20] <younder> c_smith, and that is the truth
[22:21] <fabricio_> Or means, I will not upgrade linux until the 13.04 version
[22:21] <kostkon> fac
[22:21] <kostkon> whoops
[22:21] <kostkon> fabricio_, 5 years for 12.04
[22:21] <fabricio_> Oh, thanks Kost
[22:21] <c_smith> fabricio_, what those commands did is got rid of Wine and it's config files (sudo apt-get purge wine) then removed any unneded packages (sudo apt-get autoremove) then reinstalled wine (sudo apt-get install wine)
[22:21] <c_smith> fabricio_, so basically 17.04
[22:21] <younder> fabricio_, definitely I recommend the long term version
[22:21] <c_smith> which is a waaaays off.
[22:22] <fabricio_> Long Term Support, not Version.
[22:22] <c_smith> I may end up going the LTS route myself when I get the PC I ordered tomorrow.
[22:22] <fabricio_> Piss........Lots and lots of updates ._.
[22:23] <younder> fabricio_, THE UPDATES ARE NECCESATY
[22:23] <fabricio_> And the updates are not messy or crashing the OS when downloading.....
[22:23] <younder> fabricio_, go for it
[22:24] <fabricio_> Okay, 365 megabytes aren't a problem for me. Even my internet download speed is 140KB- 135KB.
[22:25] <serp_> i usually dont update my ubuntu
[22:25] <fabricio_> It is a 1MB internet Cable Modem from Motorola
[22:25] <serp_> i think it is safe enough out of the box
[22:25] <roychri> Inside /lib/modules I have a bunch of 3.2.0-34-generic-pae folders (different version).  I am looking to fre up some disk space and I wonder if I really need all of them?  anyone know?
[22:25] <serp_> othereidr they wouldnt release it
[22:26] <fabricio_> Okay, I did have a REPOS already in my PC for wine, I did the commands, so it removed the old thing and replaced with the stable, good version of it?
[22:27] <almoxarife> roychri: you would be safer to use 'bleachbit' as root to gain space
[22:28] <fabricio_> I will now uninstall the only program installed on wine, Counter Strike with Half Life .-.
[22:28] <fabricio_> I am not really sure to remove that
[22:28] <fabricio_> Should I?
[22:29] <dr_willis> fabricio_:  not really much reason to uninstall the games.. unless you need the space.
[22:29] <fabricio_> oh, and BTW, its dinner time here, so I will be AFK for a while
[22:29] <roychri> almoxarife: Thanks, I will look into it
[22:29] <Pe3k> dr_willis: ok, it works for guest - new window manager starts and also usb flash memory works there :) ... but, how to set this window manager for standard user? (me) - I can not find anything for choosing window manager when logging in
[22:30] <Pe3k> dr_willis: ok I found it ...
[22:31] <Pe3k> dr_willis: thanks again
[22:32] <roasted> I'm beyond confused. I put two USB HDD's on my desktop to rsync the data. Once done, I put each USB HDD onto its own box. I'm now rsyncing again and it's redoing EVERYTHIGN, despite the fact the data exists already on the other drive.
[22:33] <stfu> irc.rizon.net
[22:33] <Zodihax> hey guys. I may have been a complete tool mistaking one of my normal HDDs for my SSD, hence why I couldnt boot windows when selecting that SSD as a boot device (because I didnt).. so im on windows again now at least! installing ubuntu non-uefi turned out to be horrible (grub could install etc) but ill try to figure that out later.. thanks for helping me :)
[22:33] <fabricio_> Back :D
[22:34] <fabricio_> What the Ex-Chat thing means?
[22:36] <fabricio_> Could someone answer?
[22:38] <fabricio_> Dr.Kleiner : Great Scott, Gordon Freeman!
[22:38] <fabricio_> Hey all, what EX-CHAT means?
[22:39] <Miebster> how do I use apt-get to get an older version of something?
[22:39] <Miebster> I want thunderbird 14
[22:40] <ironhalik> hmm, I mount my second driva via fstab, on boot. Nautilus shows it in the Devices list twice, as a hard drive and as a external drive (?). Any ideas?
[22:49] <Gaddel> would someone be willing to help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093871
[22:50] <xangua> !here | Gaddel
[22:51] <fabricio_raszeja> Hi, err, I changed my username. the raszeja is my last name
[22:51] <Gaddel> okay. i have an elantech touchpad and i am not able to use any of the ubuntu/xubuntu touchpad settings to modify it. and synclient -l says "no synaptics drivers loaded"
[22:52] <fabricio_raszeja> hey, I can give a guess? sudo_apt get synclient? What?
[22:52] <fabricio_raszeja> I can be wrong......
[22:52] <Gaddel> fabricio_raszeja: i have synclient and i have all the synaptics drivers installed
[22:52] <fabricio_raszeja> Because I have NO IDEA
[22:52] <pgib> Miebster, apt-get install appname=version
[22:52] <pgib> Miebster, that of course assumes the version is available and it probably isn't
[22:54] <fabricio_raszeja> Okay. Don't use windows steam on ubuntu with wine, it makes the game's graphics weird, since the DirectX of wine is pretty bad.
[22:55] <fabricio_raszeja> Hey, I see on the internet that VALVE will exit windows and launch a Linux Steam on 2013, is that right?
[22:55] <fabricio_raszeja> Answer me. Please...
[22:55] <escott> fabricio_raszeja, they won't "exit windows"
[22:56] <pgib> fabricio_raszeja, there is already linux steam in private beta.  I doubt they are going to abandon windows though