[07:34] <cyphase> go to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[07:34] <TokenBad> right I have a scanner
[07:34] <freddie> cyphase no im a n00b to linux
[07:34] <cyphase> go to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[07:35] <pashaw> TokenBad,    yeah google those phrases  might be a web service that will convert and fax them for you
[07:35] <freddie> cyphase ok now wut
[07:35] <cyphase> freddie, do you have the window open?
[07:35] <Note> how should I format my external drive if I want it to be readable by ubuntu
[07:36] <freddie> cyphase wut window
[07:36] <cyphase> the one that opens when you click System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[07:36] <freddie> cyphase ya
[07:36] <teleyinex> hi
[07:36] <pashaw> TokenBad,  i know recieving like that is common  but not about sending
[07:36] <MeanEYE> OK ... Kewl
[07:37] <teleyinex> how can I enable 3d in this card:  Intel Corp. 82852/855GM
[07:37] <MeanEYE> PPL...I need to download MP3 and other stuff for ubuntu 5.10
[07:37] <cyphase> freddie, checkmark the top 2 boxes
[07:37] <pashaw> !tell MeanEYE about restrictedformats
[07:37] <freddie> cyphase k i did
[07:37] <TokenBad> pashaw, seems there are some places that do it..but all want a monthly fee..and I am sending a fax for the first time in years...so not something i do alot of..but thanks for your help..atleast now know can do it
[07:37] <thiagomz> Hi...
[07:37] <cyphase> freddie, now checkmark the bottombox, and put in a password
[07:38] <freddie> cyphase ok
[07:38] <pashaw> TokenBad,   yeah they would charge you to pull it off the web  convert it  to resend over local phone lines
[07:38] <theconartist> how do i unmount when something is mounted multiple times
[07:38] <thiagomz> I need install oracle 9.2 client in ubuntu 5.10... any help-me ?
[07:38] <aTypical> teleyinex, I'd like to know that too.  I thought it was enabled by default, but maybe it's not.
[07:38] <teleyinex> ok
[07:38] <theconartist> umount is giving me an error: it seems /media/cdrom0 is mounted multiple times
[07:39] <teleyinex> aTypical, how can I know if I have 3d acceleration?
[07:39] <theconartist> does anyone know how to do this?
[07:39] <cyphase> freddie, what's the password?
[07:39] <freddie> cyphase its freddie
[07:39] <cyphase> ok
[07:39] <pashaw> theconartist,   type   df -h    cdrom0   isnt listed twice
[07:39] <stelmate> try something like a openGL screensaver
[07:39] <cyphase> freddie, now, i need you to run a command in the terminal
[07:40] <theconartist> pashaw, it is
[07:40] <aTypical> teleyinex, I think you can check glxinfo.  If it's enabled you'll see a line containing dri.
[07:40] <freddie> cyphase ok wuts the command
[07:40] <teleyinex> another question is how can i make that the touchpad works as in windows
[07:40] <teleyinex> ok
[07:40] <pashaw> theconartist,   did you add a second line in fstab   using cdrom0
[07:40] <aTypical> Maybe it's Direct Rendering = Yes?
[07:40] <cyphase> freddie, 1 sec
[07:40] <freddie> kk
[07:41] <theconartist> pashaw, not that i know of
[07:41] <pashaw> theconartist,   paste your df-h    and  cat /etc/fstab   to pastebin  use the same pastebin id like to see this
[07:41] <pashaw> !pastebin
[07:41] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:42] <thegladiator> u heard it right ubotu
[07:42] <thegladiator> !botsnack
[07:42] <ubotu> thanks thegladiator :)
[07:42] <pashaw> thegladiator,   ubunto knows your secrets!
[07:42] <pashaw> err  typo  :(
[07:43] <cyphase> freddie, i'll pm it to you
[07:43] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello, I am trying to insall gnokii, but it says "nokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" I have libgli2.0 , what should i do ?
[07:43] <Java_the_Hutt> install
[07:43] <Seveas> pilgrim, please don't add crap to the bot
[07:44] <theconartist> pashaw, http://pastebin.com/485511
[07:44] <Seveas> oh, and spam too, that qualifies for..
[07:44] <thegladiator> when i do a upadte on open office , do  actually replace the old files ? or is it like a an addition to open office ?
[07:46] <bshumate> theconartist: try : sudo umount /tmp/disk2.iso
[07:46] <darkheart> Hello, I'm trying to enable 3D acceleration on my ATI card. I have the fglrx driver install, but when I check it with fglrxinfo, it still displays the MESA driver. The logs show that the DRI couldn't be loaded.
[08:05] <kbrooks> and saying "fuck"
[08:05] <cyphase> portuguese*
[08:05] <freddie> cyphase wut do i do i cant findd it
[08:05] <Amaranth> kbrooks: Maybe he is just mad because no one can help him. :P
[08:05] <cyphase> freddie, your looking in synaptic, right?
[08:05] <cyphase> :)
[08:05] <freddie> cyphase ta
[08:05] <globe> sam_ : what is your problem?
[08:05] <cyphase> freddie, it's in there
[08:05] <cyphase> just look
[08:05] <Eleaf> How can I export mp3 using Audacity?
[08:06] <Eleaf> It says I have to find libmp3lame.so my self
[08:06] <cyphase> freddie, click on a package and type ssh
[08:06] <Eleaf> I can't find this anywhere on my computer, apt, or using google
[08:06] <freddie> ok i did that
[08:06] <sam_> my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?
[08:06] <sam_> my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?
[08:06] <cyphase> freddie, and you can't find it?
[08:06] <Amaranth> dirceu: If you need help with ubuntu try #ubuntu-br
[08:06] <Amaranth> dirceu: If you just want to swear and talk dirty please go away.
[08:06] <freddie> cyphase nope
[08:06] <cyphase> freddie, in the side pane, which row is highlighted
[08:06] <globe> Eleaf : google lame mp3 encoder...they have a website to dl from
[08:06] <thegladiator> Amaranth, he is gone
[08:06] <sam_> my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?
[08:06] <Amaranth> wow i'm lagging
[08:07] <bshumate> Eleaf: sudo apt-get install liblame0
[08:07] <Eleaf> globe, I can encode mp3 with other programs...
[08:07] <sam_> my screen resolution stops at 1024X768, how to increase?
[08:07] <globe> sam_ : does your computer support > 1024?
[08:07] <Amaranth> !fixres
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said fixres was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:07] <Eleaf> bshumate, ok, but audacity still says I have to locate the file by hand.  Even if it is installed
[08:07] <freddie> cyphase none
[08:07] <sam_> globe: how to know that
[08:07] <cyphase> freddie, in the side pane, which row is highlighted
[08:07] <globe> Eleaf: some programs come with a built in mp3 encoder....
[08:07] <cyphase> oh
[08:07] <Amaranth> really bad...
[08:07] <cyphase> oops
[08:07] <cyphase> lol
[08:07] <freddie> cyphase none of them
[08:07] <thegladiator> how many here use enlightenment ?
[08:07] <Eleaf> globe, audacity says it uses the external libmp3lame.so to encode mp3.  And I have to find it my self.
[08:08] <cyphase> freddie, yea, i missed it. highlight "All"
[08:08] <freddie> cyphase wait ssh is hightlighted
[08:08] <globe> sam_ : you should be able to find out by looking in your monitor specs
[08:08] <cyphase> freddie, ok
[08:08] <pashaw> sam_,     read this but make sure you backup your xorg.conf first   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6386
[08:08] <Eleaf> bshumate, liblame0 is installed
[08:08] <thegladiator> can you guys temme ur dektop please ?
[08:08] <cyphase> freddie, highlight "All"
[08:08] <bshumate> Eleaf: you just point Audacity to the location of liblame, which is /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[08:08] <Eleaf> bshumate, it still says I have to manually find libmp3lame my self
[08:08] <freddie> cyphase ok
[08:08] <Eleaf> Well how am I supposed to find that bshumate ? = P
[08:08] <Amaranth> !ping
[08:08] <dbernar1> kbrooks: what is the "NOW!" supposed to mean?
[08:08] <ubotu> pong
[08:09] <globe> Eleaf: do you have libmp3lame.so in there?
[08:09] <Amaranth> whoa, like 5 second lag here
[08:09] <quacker> thegladiator, I could always use some *more* enlightenment -- heh
[08:09] <cyphase> freddie, when All is highlighted, click on  package in the main pane, and type ssh
[08:09] <BxL> !ping
[08:09] <Eleaf> globe, no
[08:09] <ubotu> pong
[08:09] <BxL> 2sec
[08:09] <cyphase> who wants to play
[08:09] <globe> Eleaf: then you will probably need to download it...
[08:09] <cyphase> !ping
[08:09] <bshumate> Eleaf: Typically with the Audacity file browser.  The first time you attempt to export MP3, Audacity should pop a file browser which you use to locate liblame so Audacity knows where to find it in the future...
[08:09] <Eleaf> globe, I searched the internet
[08:09] <cyphase> oops
[08:09] <cyphase> :)
[08:10] <Eleaf> bshumate, yes, that popped up.
[08:10] <nadav_> hey.. i have a problem. ubuntu installed a new kernel for me and while doing it it replaced my old grub configuration.. now i can't boot into windows
[08:10] <freddie> ok
[08:10] <Eleaf> bshumate, but how am I supposed to know where that file is?
[08:10] <nadav_> how do i fix that? :)
[08:10] <Eleaf> bshumate, It's not in /usr/lib/
[08:10] <sam_> globe: I have a 18 inch flat screen and all the screen is not used
[08:10] <freddie> cyphase ok
[08:10] <cyphase> freddie, is it installing?
[08:10] <DRAGON_Ultra> you don't need windows anyway
[08:10] <cyphase> i mean, did you find it?
[08:10] <nadav_> figured someone would say that
[08:10] <DRAGON_Ultra> :)
[08:10] <nadav_> but i don't have visual c++ on linux... :)
[08:10] <Eleaf> bshumate, I'm guessing libmp3lame.so doesn't exist.
[08:10] <globe> sam_ : I see...you will need to re-run you x config script
[08:11] <thegladiator> visual c++ on linux . omigosh
[08:11] <globe> Eleaf: try googleing for "lame mp3"
[08:11] <bshumate> Eleaf: then you do not have it installed, or installed properly
[08:11] <Seveas> thegladiator, gvim ;)
[08:11] <sam_> globe: re-run x config means change settings ?
[08:11] <nadav_> anyway... can anyone please explain to me how to configure grub for windows xp?
[08:11] <pashaw> sam_,   i already gave you a guide
[08:11] <thegladiator> gvim ?
[08:12] <Eleaf> globe, it doesn't exist.  Sure there are mp3 encoder libraries.  I have those.  But there is no libmp3lame.so that audacity needs
[08:12] <thegladiator> ah k ;d
[08:12] <Eleaf> bshumate, I don't think there is any libmp3lame.so in the world!
[08:12] <cyphase> freddie, did you find it?
[08:12] <freddie> cyphase i cant it says i need the dick
[08:12] <cyphase> ...
[08:12] <cyphase> disk*
[08:12] <globe> sam_ from a term window (Alt-F1) type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:12] <Seveas> !find libmp3lame
[08:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libmp3lame' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/{libmp3lame.so.0|libmp3lame.so.0.0.0}) in multiverse/libs/liblame0 ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp3lame.a|libmp3lame.la|libmp3lame.so}) in multiverse/libdevel/liblame-dev.
[08:13] <globe> sam_ that will run you through the configuration script.
[08:13] <cyphase> freddie, you'll have to change your repositories
[08:13] <cyphase> !repo
[08:13] <ubotu> cyphase: Are you smoking crack?
[08:13] <cyphase> !repos
[08:13] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:13] <bshumate> Eleaf: well, I have the Multiverse package source enabled...and I was able to simply use the command : sudo apt-get install liblame0, and lo and behold, I have a /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 library!
[08:13] <Amaranth> Anyway, call if you need help, I'll be upgrading wordpress
[08:13] <cyphase> !easysource
[08:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:13] <thegladiator> the upadater seems to freeze during applying chanhes
[08:14] <thegladiator> what can i do ?
[08:14] <Eleaf> bshumate, well I tried liblamemp3 like it said.  it didn't say liblame0
[08:14] <Eleaf> lol
[08:14] <Mirith> Hmm...  question... what's the easiest CD burning software to use in linux?  I need to make an ISO then burn it
[08:14] <Manifold> Unbuntu is reall impressing me.
[08:14] <Manifold> really*
[08:14] <Manifold> I just installed it.
[08:14] <Manifold> So slick.
[08:14] <thegladiator> k3b
[08:14] <Eleaf> bshumate, It says I already have liblame0 installed
[08:14] <sethk> thegladiator, you mean synaptic?
[08:14] <Manifold> Or maybe that's just Gnome..
[08:14] <freddie> cyphase so wut do i do
[08:14] <thegladiator> Mirith, k3b
[08:14] <Mirith> ty
[08:14] <Seveas> Eleaf, try liblame-dev
[08:14] <thegladiator> no synaptic
[08:14] <Eleaf> bshumate, I don't have one file in my /usr/lib folder.  It is only folders.
[08:15] <ossie> guys i have setup a samba share but it prompts me for a password
[08:15] <sethk> ossie, type in the password
[08:15] <Amaranth> Eleaf: What are you trying to do?
[08:15] <Eleaf> I need to save this as an mp3 file
[08:15] <Eleaf> that's all I want to do.
[08:15] <thegladiator> Softwwares Update thats the heading . It was flashin in the gnmoe panel and i ran it
[08:15] <bshumate> Eleaf: liblame0 is the *Ubuntu package* which *provides* libmp3lame, which is what Audacity needs to export MP3s...
[08:15] <ossie> hehehe, i know i worded that in a stupid way, the password dont accept
[08:15] <Eleaf> bshumate, then where is the file?
[08:15] <Eleaf> bshumate, where is libmp3lame?
[08:16] <pashaw> ossie,   you need to also  login to it using your   ubuntu username
[08:16] <freddie> cyphase r u still there
[08:16] <bshumate> Eleaf: it's sitting in a repository....waiting for *you to install it* ! ;-)
[08:16] <Amaranth> Eleaf: Are you trying to rip a CD to mp3 using sound-juicer?
[08:16] <pashaw> ossie,   or a create a new user  with same name as your other puters account
[08:16] <Eleaf> bshumate, It is installed!
[08:16] <cyphase> freddie, go to the link below
[08:16] <ossie> i have tried that pashaw, im trying to access it via a xp laptop
[08:16] <cyphase> !easysource
[08:16] <ubotu> hmm... easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:16] <Eleaf> Amaranth, I'm trying to save this file I edited in Audacity as a mp3.
[08:16] <bshumate> Eleaf: afraid not...
[08:16] <Amaranth> ah
[08:17] <Eleaf> bshumate, apt-get install liblame0.  liblame0 is already the newest version"
[08:17] <Mirith> Wrong button!
[08:17] <globe> hey why does "sudo gdm stop" return "gdm already running...Aborting!"?
[08:17] <Amaranth> I didn't know audacity could save to mp3
[08:17] <pashaw> ossie, use run   type \\ipaddress  enter
[08:17] <freddie> cyphase ok
[08:17] <Eleaf> Amaranth, yes, select it in the preferences
[08:17] <Mirith> Umm how about for gnome, what's the easiest to use?
[08:17] <freddie> cyphase i did now wut
[08:17] <ossie> ok will have a go now pashaw
[08:17] <Eleaf> bshumate, It's installed but there is not libmp3lame.0
[08:18] <ltibor65> Hi boys!
[08:18] <Eleaf> bshumate, actually, maybe it is in there, but audacity wont open it
[08:18] <Mirith> Hello ltibor
[08:18] <dbernar1> Seveas: Are there written guidelines for ops?
[08:18] <Eleaf> I can see it in /usr/lib when opening it with a terminal bshumate but audacity shows no file.
[08:18] <cyphase> freddie, follow the instructions
[08:18] <ltibor65> There are an ubuntu package for audacity?
[08:18] <freddie> mkay
[08:19] <dbernar1> ubotu: tell ltibor65 about ask the bot
[08:19] <Amaranth> dbernar1: Why do you ask?
[08:19] <Eleaf> bshumate, Ok it worked...  I guess I needed the dev file.. o.o
[08:19] <zadkiel> Hello
[08:19] <aTypical> Are there any "test" updates for breezy?
[08:19] <dbernar1> Amaranth: why does one ask? to get the information. He was talking about how something entails a ban, so I am curious whether there are writtent instructions specifically for that.
[08:19] <freddie> cyphase installal all of it
[08:19] <globe> hey why does "sudo gdm stop" return "gdm already running...Aborting!"?
[08:20] <globe> I am trying to kill it!?!
[08:20] <Eleaf> bshumate, It quit while encoding..... o.o
[08:20] <zadkiel> globe: try sudo /etc/initr.d/gdm stop
[08:20] <kakei> hi i installed kwin-baghira how can i activate it? (via aptitude install kwin-baghira)
[08:20] <bshumate> Eleaf: bummer!
[08:20] <cyphase> freddie, no offense, but you really have to read a bit by yourself
[08:20] <ossie> should i create a group and give the group acccess to my samba share then sign in to the share with the group i made
[08:20] <freddie> cyphase mkay
[08:20] <zadkiel> anybody knows if there are any graphical tools for enabling or disabling services from the boot up ?
[08:21] <emmanuelr> saludos
[08:21] <globe> zadkiel: initr.d?
[08:21] <Seveas> zadkiel, system -> admin -> services
[08:21] <freddie> cyphase i dont understand it
[08:21] <ubuntune> hi
[08:21] <zadkiel> oh, i thought you meant on the shell
[08:21] <Eleaf> bshumate, quits every time... hellpp
[08:21] <freddie> cyphase sorry
[08:22] <Mirith> hepl!
[08:22] <Seveas> Mirith, ?
[08:22] <pashaw> ossie,    no use user accounts for login  but you can use groups to allow   more users access
[08:22] <Seveas> dbernar1, there are no such guidelines yet
[08:22] <Eleaf> bshumate, It quits because of "Segmentation fault"
[08:23] <Smoked1> Is it ok to just use the APY package manager?
[08:23] <ossie> pashaw, i cant login with my credentials, i have given everyone access to the folder,. but it keeps prompting for user/pass
[08:23] <pashaw> ossie,    still wont let you in?     pastebin  your  /etc/samba/smb.conf  ill help you
[08:23] <Smoked1> APT
[08:23] <Eleaf> bshumate, everything segmentation faults...  Firefox quits every few minutes because of it.  why?
[08:23] <ossie> ok cheers
[08:23] <Seveas> Smoked1, sure
[08:23] <Mirith> What happens if you want to run a kde program in gnome?
[08:23] <zadkiel> Seveas, sorry, where do i find the "system"? i know it's a menu, but i don't see it...
[08:24] <sethk> Mirith, you start it, and it runs
[08:24] <bshumate> Eleaf: you got some kind of major malfunction!  bad memory, or something if everything is segfaulting!
[08:24] <Eleaf> bshumate, what is a good linux sound encoder then?  audacity quits every time I encode mp3
[08:24] <Mirith> ok
[08:24] <Mirith> ty
[08:24] <Smoked1> Seveas: Thanks I prefer the command line
[08:24] <Seveas> zadkiel, are you using KDE/Kubuntu perhaps?
[08:24] <Eleaf> bshumate, Yea I get at least 40 segmentation faults a day... lol
[08:24] <Mirith> its just a different library set?
[08:24] <zadkiel> GNOME/ubuntu
[08:24] <Seveas> zadkiel, then it should be at the top left
[08:24] <globe> zadkiel: did you mean "initr.d"? or "init.d"?
[08:24] <Seveas> next to applications and places
[08:24] <digitaleric> what's the ununtu release that will come after breezy?
[08:25] <bshumate> Eleaf: audacity works great for me.  sounds like you have some hardware issues with your computer!
[08:25] <quacker> bshumate, either that or M$ Windows -- heh
[08:25] <Seveas> digitaleric, dapper
[08:25] <digitaleric> Seveas: thanks
[08:25] <zadkiel> globe, init.d
[08:25] <Smoked1> I installed ubuntu on my laptop last night but the integrated sdcard reader is not working.
[08:25] <ltibor65> Seveas, where can I find an audacity ubuntu package?
[08:25] <Seveas> !info audacity
[08:25] <BxL> what's the package name of the "battery metter" in ubuntu?
[08:25] <ubotu> audacity: (A fast, cross-platform audio editor), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-1build2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1605 kB, Installed size: 4708 kB
[08:25] <BxL> for laptop
[08:26] <Seveas> ltibor65, in universe :)
[08:26] <D1> Smoked1: there is no driver for it in linux
[08:26] <Seveas> BxL, there is one in gnome-applets, there's one in gdesklets, there are several more...
[08:26] <zadkiel> Seveas, should i log in as root or something? because it's not there... I just have "Applications" and "Computer"
[08:26] <Eleaf> bshumate, ok what is a good sound encoder?
[08:26] <globe> zadkiel: thanks, that worked.  whats the difference between being in /ect/init.d and saying "sudo gdm stop" and saying "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ?
[08:26] <yaaar> word
[08:26] <Smoked1> Ahh man
[08:26] <Seveas> zadkiel, ah, then you're on hoary
[08:26] <ossie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6420 pashaw
[08:26] <zoexii> hello, does anyone know if I can mount a mac '.dmg' file in linux?
[08:26] <Seveas> hoary has no such application yet
[08:26] <pashaw> ossie,   1 min
[08:27] <ossie> cheers
[08:27] <Seveas> zoexii, maybe when you use mac-on-linux...
[08:27] <ubuntune> can anyone tell me which deb packages i need to make xine play a rented dvd?
[08:27] <sethk> zoexii, I don't know of a way
[08:27] <yaaar> can anybody tell me the important differences between the gstreamer totem backend and totem-xine?
[08:27] <ubuntune> please
[08:27] <zoexii> Seveas, I run x86, I can't do mac-on-linux,
[08:27] <Manifold> Guys.. clem@clemmain:~$ cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup1
[08:27] <Manifold> cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/fstab_backup1': Permission denied
[08:27] <yaaar> does it really matter which i use?
[08:27] <D1> libcss I belive?
[08:27] <Seveas> ubuntune, libdvdcss2
[08:27] <Manifold> How do I get access?
[08:27] <D1> there you go.
[08:27] <digitaleric> zoexii: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm
[08:27] <sethk> ubuntu133, lie to it, tell it you bought it instead of renting
[08:27] <Seveas> Manifold, sudo
[08:27] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell ubuntune about dvd
[08:27] <ltibor65> Seveas, tell me a website for audacity, my synaptic don't works now.
[08:27] <zadkiel> globe, i'm not entirely sure. Something about the directory where the binary is run...
[08:27] <Seveas> ltibor65, packages.ubuntu.com, search for audacity
[08:28] <ubuntune> thanks erusul
[08:28] <globe> zadkiel: ok....thanx anyway
[08:28] <zadkiel> globe, no problem
[08:28] <Manifold> You mean sudo gedit /etc/fstab?
[08:28] <bshumate> Eleaf: you can try Grip...but it uses lame as well, and will likely crash just as much as audacity given your obvious system instability
[08:28] <brasko> Could anyone tell me what package manager ubuntu uses? I was thinking about switching from debian to ubuntu today.
[08:28] <cyphase> brasko, Synaptic
[08:28] <sethk> brasko, the same one debian uses
[08:28] <cyphase> apt-get
[08:28] <Seveas> brasko, apt, just like debian
[08:28] <cyphase> lol
[08:28] <brasko> O, Great!
[08:29] <Eleaf> bshumate, I have encoded mp3's before with this computer
[08:29] <Seveas> apt-get, synaptic, adept, aptitude...
[08:29] <zadkiel> Seveas, do you know of a GUI for editing the services which may work with ubuntu?
[08:29] <sethk> brasko, apt-get, dpkg, dselect (if you are masochistic)
[08:29] <cyphase> brasko, i thought you meant GUI :P
[08:29] <brasko> Are the packages semi out of date? like debian's then?
[08:29] <Eleaf> bshumate, I'm pretty sure it's my video card
[08:29] <zadkiel> hoary*
[08:29] <Seveas> brasko, no :)
[08:29] <erUSUL> zadkiel, bum?
[08:29] <sorush20> hi guys
[08:29] <freddie> cyphase wich do i ckeak
[08:29] <bshumate> Eleaf: most GNU/Linux MP3 encoding tools rely on lame... not sure your video card would be causing forty random segfaults per day though. ;-)
[08:29] <zadkiel> erUSUL, have you tried it on hoary? I tried it and couldn't get it to install correctly from synaptic
[08:29] <ossie> pashaw, can i set security = host??? and specify the hostname??
[08:30] <brasko> Great, I'm downloading the 'PC (Intel x86) install CD' now. Is that all I should need?
[08:30] <brasko> any suggestions?
[08:30] <sethk> brasko, debian has different series of packages, as you know.  So it isn't true, in general, that debian's packages are out of date
[08:30] <Eleaf> bshumate, the "lame" application works great!
[08:30] <sethk> brasko, it's all you need and it's all there is.
[08:30] <brasko> Great
[08:30] <erUSUL> zadkiel, i have had it installed in hoary wo problems. i've breezy now
[08:30] <Eleaf> bshumate, I'm pretty sure it's my video card.  As for, my computer only runs instably on 16 bit mode ( direct rendering )
[08:31] <brasko> Yeah, I'm running debian testing, but it still isn't always up to date. However, I've been using it for years, so it's not to much of a problem.
[08:31] <riddlebox> is there prelink for ubuntu?
[08:31] <sorush20> guys I've installed the dapper but I cant get the kde gui to load.. is this called X? an why isn't it loading?
[08:31] <brasko> I was just hearing a lot of good news about ubuntu on lwn, and though I should give it a try
[08:31] <sorush20> This in on the new computer I built with AMD 64...
[08:31] <erUSUL> sorush20, see the topic ;)
[08:31] <zadkiel> erUSUL, ok, i see. Maybe i'm missing something then.
[08:32] <Eleaf> bshumate, wow, the lame command line application works awesomely!  = )
[08:32] <brasko> Unfortunatly, I lost power, and my root partition (ext3) won't fix itself, no matter how many times I run fsck.
[08:32] <brasko> In fact, it doesn't even give me error's any more.
[08:33] <brasko> When I boot, it drops me to a shell, and tell's me to run fsck. After I do that, it tell's me to reboot, when I do that, I'm back to the shell again.
[08:33] <sorush20> erUSUL: very help full thanks
[08:33] <sethk> brasko, did you do shutdown with the force fsck flag?
[08:33] <sethk> brasko, as in shutdown -F now
[08:33] <brasko> no
[08:34] <brasko> Do you think that would help?
[08:34] <sethk> brasko, yes, very likely that will fix it
[08:34] <freddie> cyphase pz tell me
[08:34] <pashaw> ossie,   ok had to check if Ubuntu included any extra fancy tools
[08:34] <brasko> I tried, 'reboot' and 'telinit 0'.
[08:34] <bshumate> Eleaf: good to hear it!
[08:34] <brasko> I'll give that a shot, thanks sethk
[08:34] <sethk> brasko, nothing to lose, anyway, and the odds are good
[08:35] <ossie> np pashaw , ive changed my config to authenticate as user
[08:35] <_w00t> hi guys
[08:35] <_w00t> when i try to boot ubuntu from cd-rom it says could not find kernel image?
[08:35] <pashaw> ossie,   ok  you edited the authentication section  and removed the ;  infront of user?
[08:36] <mike__> damnit
[08:36] <ossie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6421
[08:36] <ossie> yes pashaw
[08:36] <ossie> check that link pashaw , i just did that
[08:37] <NixerX> Would someone please point me to a good distupgrade howto from Hoary to Breezy.
[08:37] <erUSUL> !breezy
[08:37] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:37] <_w00t> can anyone help me please.
[08:37] <NixerX> Sup _w00t ?
[08:37] <_w00t> when i try to boot ubuntu from cd-rom it says could not find kernel image?
[08:37] <Rorkine> Im upgrading this afternoon.  Totally psyched!
[08:38] <XiCillin> NixerX, add the breezy repositories to you sources.list file, then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:38] <NixerX> ubotu and XiCillin, Thank you
[08:38] <ubotu> NixerX: Not a clue
[08:38] <_w00t> boot:e:\ubuntu 5.04 i386 thats the command i'm using to boot
[08:38] <pashaw> ossie,    farther up  there is a section that read AUTHENTICATION   few lines under it youll see ; security = user
[08:38] <ilba7r> !javadeb
[08:38] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/
[08:38] <pashaw> ossie,   remove that ;    its good practice
[08:39] <ossie> ok pashaw
[08:39] <dbernar1> _w00t: why not just put the CD in the drive, and restart the computer?
[08:39] <freddie> cyphase tell me or i give up
[08:39] <pashaw> ossie,   ok at type   sudo  smbpasswd -a <username>   use your Ubuntu username and enter the normal password
[08:39] <ossie> i have already done that pashaw
[08:40] <ossie> cool, ill try now pashaw
[08:40] <NixerX> XiCillin, Have you tried this method?
[08:40] <pashaw> ossie,   wait
[08:40] <ossie> ok
[08:41] <ossie> sorted pashaw
[08:41] <ossie> that has done it , yipeeeee
[08:41] <hooker_> sorry got disconnected
[08:41] <pashaw> ossie,   2 things  edit the smb.conf    and add   browseable = yes   to your  [share]     so you can browse it without manually typing each folder
[08:41] <spikeh> how do I view/mount NTFS partitions in Kubuntu?
[08:41] <ossie> ok pashaw , ill do it now
[08:41] <pashaw> ossie,  ok  your off then  lots more options for samba to learn
[08:41] <spikeh> or Ubuntu
[08:41] <_w00t> sorry got dc
[08:42] <mahangu_> anyway i can force increase the volume on my system? sys volume is at max and mplayer too, and yet i cant hear
[08:42] <dbernar1> _w00t: why not just put the CD in the drive, and restart the computer?
[08:42] <ossie> sweet , thanks very much pashaw
[08:42] <XiCillin> NIxerX, yes but my direcway internet was so slow i just installed from a cd
[08:42] <Smoked1> can anyone see this?
[08:42] <_w00t> dbernar1 i did it
[08:42] <Smoked1> hmm
[08:42] <_w00t> thats what i did
[08:42] <dbernar1> Smoked1: I can not see it.
[08:42] <_w00t> i changed the boot
[08:42] <_w00t> re-start
[08:42] <_w00t> and it asks for boot:
[08:42] <NixerX> XiCillin, good advice. I should just download the iso's for Breezy and upgrade from there.
[08:42] <XiCillin> nixerx, when i saw how much i had to download i decided to do it another way, but that way works
[08:42] <sethk> mahangu_, you need powered speakers
[08:42] <Smoked1> whats a good dreamweaver type application for linux?
[08:43] <XiCillin> yea thats what i did
[08:43] <dbernar1> _w00t: it asked for boot at the Ubuntu screen?
[08:43] <mahangu_> sethk, but other movies play fine on my laptop speakers
[08:43] <_w00t> yeah
[08:43] <NixerX> XiCillin , Can I ask what your connection speeds are?
[08:43] <freddie> cyphase plz help me
[08:43] <_w00t> it says to install default type enter and to isntall custom type server
[08:43] <spikeh> how do I view/mount NTFS partitions in Ubuntu?
[08:43] <_w00t> boot:
[08:43] <dbernar1> _w00t: just press enter.
[08:43] <_w00t> i did
[08:43] <dbernar1> and?
[08:43] <_w00t> but still asks for boot
[08:44] <pashaw> _w00t,  is this your first install?  or did the first have an error?
[08:44] <dbernar1> _w00t: press enter, and then hold it down until it forfeits and submits.
[08:44] <XiCillin> sure, NixerX, my satallite is really un-reliable. dropped-packets and so forth. download speed isn't bad if its working right. and upload speeds are very slow
[08:44] <ph8> hey guys
[08:44] <XiCillin> not sure exactly
[08:44] <_w00t> this is my first install
[08:44] <ph8> Can anyone tell me where the keyboard config is? I've got the wrong layout set
[08:44] <ph8> (command line)
[08:44] <pashaw> _w00t,   type linux <enter>
[08:44] <NixerX> spikeh I think there is something on ww.ubuntugude.org that tells you how to do that.
[08:44] <dbernar1> ph8: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:44] <_w00t> type linux when it says boot?
[08:44] <FlashFreak> hello
[08:45] <dbernar1> ph8: you mean for a diff langauge?
[08:45] <NixerX> XiCillin , Oh Satallite is expensive too isnt it?>
[08:45] <_rYe_> i have a compaq presario V2414NR, amd 64... how do i make the wireless card work? it is not detected by the laptop.. thanks
[08:45] <pashaw> _w00t,   you see this right   boot:   <<<?      then do this  boot: linux <hitenter>
[08:45] <ph8> ja
[08:45] <ph8> I thought I selected dutch but obviously not
[08:45] <_w00t> yeah i did see boot
[08:45] <ph8> well a dutch keyboard
[08:45] <_w00t> ok
[08:45] <dbernar1> Seveas: ping.
[08:45] <_w00t> you think its gonna work with that?
[08:45] <zadkiel> well
[08:45] <zadkiel> thanks for everything
[08:45] <XiCillin> yea
[08:46] <zadkiel> see you later
[08:46] <Seveas> dbernar1, ICMP ECHO REPLY
[08:46] <zadkiel> bye
[08:46] <XiCillin> brb smoke break
[08:46] <pashaw> _w00t,   it sholdnt have needed that   maybe a bad CD
[08:46] <ph8> dbernar1:  I'm not running X
[08:46] <_w00t> pashaw umm
[08:46] <_w00t> i have like 20cds
[08:46] <Lonesoldier> I was wondering, is Ubuntu a good choice for a Linux novice?
[08:46] <ph8> It's a command line only box
[08:46] <ph8> Lonesoldier:  yes
[08:46] <_w00t> i'll try with any other
[08:46] <_w00t> well thanks bro
[08:46] <Lonesoldier> ph8: thanks.
[08:46] <_w00t> i'll try in a sec
[08:46] <_w00t> and will be back
[08:46] <_rYe_> i have a compaq presario V2414NR, amd 64... how do i make the wireless card work? it is not detected by the laptop.. thanks
[08:46] <_w00t> appreciated.
[08:47] <pashaw> _w00t,   i ment maybe the download was bad  or the CD burn went bad
[08:47] <julio> hi
[08:47] <dbernar1> Seveas: help ph8 set up the dutch keyboard through the cli.
[08:47] <_w00t> pashaw can be
[08:47] <_w00t> will try again
[08:47] <_w00t> well thanks
[08:47] <_w00t> brb
[08:47] <Seveas> dbernar1, I wouldn't know how..
[08:48] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell _rYe_ about ndiswrapper
[08:48] <TokenBad> how add scanner into ubuntu?
[08:48] <NixerX> thanks all.
[08:48] <dbernar1> Seveas: are you from the netherlands, though?
[08:48] <Seveas> dbernar1, 99% if the keyboards here (and 100% of the ones I used) are US layout
[08:48] <ph8> Seveas: I thought you knew all? ;)
[08:48] <ph8> It's actually for a friend, I'm english
[08:49] <ph8> there's not a config file for the keyboard somewhere though?
[08:49] <Seveas> ph8, it must be specified in xorg.conf
[08:49] <Seveas> ph8, the default is:         Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
[08:49] <Seveas> I guess changing to         Option          "XkbLayout"     "nl"
[08:49] <Seveas>  would help
[08:50] <Smoked1> To change resalution options do I just edit the xorg config file?
[08:50] <ph8> but there's no xorg.conf
[08:50] <ph8> as it's not installed?
[08:51] <humbraro> hey folks i need some help with the chown command - i must be missing something blatenetly obvious...
[08:51] <erUSUL> ph8, all i can say is man install-keymap
[08:51] <Edgan> humbraro: Whats your question?
[08:51] <humbraro> if i do a 'chown -R user.group directory/*', it chowns the whole partition
[08:52] <Edgan> humbraro: -R is recursive
[08:52] <Sturgeon> Is there a way to tell gnome not to show the contents of a window when i move it? (in order to improve performance)
[08:52] <sethk> humbraro, actually, no.  to change everything you need:  chorn -R user:group directory/.
[08:52] <humbraro> I know that, but does the whole partition, instead of starting where i tell it to
[08:52] <noppe> anyone care to enligthen me on how to actually user gnome-user-share? I have it installed and I enabled it but I have no idea how to access it..
[08:52] <sethk> humbraro, or just the directory
[08:52] <sethk> humbraro, but not *
[08:53] <humbraro> oh, a colon, not a dot
[08:53] <Edgan> Sturgeon: That would relate to the window manager, Metacity.
[08:53] <sethk> humbraro, yes but that's not my point
[08:53] <Sturgeon> Edgan: is there a configurator for it?
[08:53] <sethk> humbraro, my point is, use a directory name, or directory/., not directory/*
[08:53] <Edgan> humbraro: colons and dots both work, but colons is the new preferred delimiter
[08:53] <humbraro> oh, ok
[08:54] <humbraro> lemme try that real quick
[08:54] <sethk> humbraro,  I still don't know what you are asking, really.  What do you mean by "not starting where I tell it"?
[08:54] <Edgan> humbraro: You want to change the owner and group of all the directories and files in "directory"?
[08:54] <ely> HI guys I just installed ubuntu and I'm trying to get Java installed so I can see pages which contain java but while browsing to such sites with FIrefox neither the automatic plug in thingie not the manual seems to install Java.
[08:54] <ely> what do you suggest?
[08:54] <Langly1> whats the command to fire up the configuration for X under ubuntu, not digging it up on the site, and the others I know for other distros arn't working
[08:54] <ely> thanks
[08:54] <humbraro> Edgan: yes
[08:54] <humbraro> sethk: what Edgan said
[08:54] <phos-phoros> 6536.00 bogomips
[08:54] <SEJeff> !tell ely about javadeb
[08:55] <sethk> humbraro, then use the directory name
[08:55] <Edgan> humbraro: Then chown user:group directory/* should do the job, though it won't do directories or files that start with a dot
[08:55] <phos-phoros> 6536.99 bogomips even
[08:55] <SEJeff> ely, check your private message ubotu sent you on how to install java
[08:55] <phos-phoros> bogo = bogus?
[08:55] <ely> Thanks SEJeff !
[08:55] <ely> I ll check it out
[08:55] <humbraro> ok, that worked: chown -R user:group directory
[08:55] <SEJeff> ely, no problem
[08:56] <SEJeff> Ely, If you add seveas repository, you can install it from synaptic
[08:56] <humbraro> thanks for the help sethk and edgan
[08:56] <Edgan> humbraro: You could do it like this. chown user:group directory/* ; chown user:group directory/.[A-z] * ; chown user:group directory/.[0-9] *   Though there is probably an easier way
[08:56] <humbraro> I think thats odd behavior though
[08:56] <Langly1> Whats the command for configuring X?
[08:57] <Ely> SO SEJeff that is basically what ubotu just told me to download right?
[08:57] <SEJeff> Ely, ubotu gave you a link to seveas website. It contains the deb you need to install but you have to manually download and install it
[08:57] <humbraro> Edgan: the problem was, if i did 'chown user.group directory/*', it'd chown the entire partition (/home in this instance)
[08:57] <Edgan> humbraro: The only difference between chown -R user:group directory/* and chown -R user:group directory  would be that the owner and group of directory would be changed, not just the contents of it
[08:57] <pashaw> Laney,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:57] <Ely> okies understood.
[08:57] <Ely> thanks
[08:58] <Ely> let me go try that
[08:58] <Edgan> humbraro: Give us the detail, what was "directory"
[08:58] <SEJeff> humbraro, chown -R user:group /home/username/
[08:58] <humbraro> well, its /home/brianna - my daughters ~
[08:58] <SEJeff> humbraro, don't worry about the *. the -R option is recursive and does all files + subdirectories
[08:58] <Edgan> humbraro: ok, so you were trying chown -R user:group /home/* when you needed chown -R user:group /home/brianna?
[08:59] <humbraro> no, not /home/* /home/brianna/*
[08:59] <nerdy2> Edgan, also * doesn't match dot files
[08:59] <humbraro> and it chowns the entire /home partition
[08:59] <humbraro> did the same with /home/.* as well
[08:59] <Edgan> nerdy2: I said that above
[08:59] <SEJeff> humbraro: chown -R brianna:brianna /home/brianna
[09:00] <SEJeff> humbraro, this is not hard
[09:00] <melodie> salut les geeks!  :))
[09:00] <nerdy2> Edgan, sorry, didn't see it
[09:00] <phil_> Why won't newly installed packages show up in the menu?
[09:00] <Stew_Lappy> geeks? where?
[09:00] <Edgan> humbraro: It shouldn't have done that unless there was a symlink in her directory to /home, or something like that
[09:00] <humbraro> but now i do a 'chown -R brianna:brianna brianna' (with pwd as /home) and it works fine
[09:00] <melodie> lol
[09:00] <Edgan> humbraro: What you are saying it was doing doesn't make sense
[09:01] <humbraro> as i said at the beginning - blatently obvious
[09:01] <brasko> How does ubuntu handle kernel updates?
[09:01] <Seveas> brasko, download, install, reboot
[09:01] <brasko> Will I get a new kernel, as they become available?
[09:01] <SEJeff> brasko, Security updates only. Through apt
[09:01] <humbraro> Edgan: it doesn't to me either, which is why i came to ask here
[09:01] <brasko> and, are they patched? or stock?
[09:01] <Edgan> humbraro: Let me see if I can figure it out
[09:01] <Eleaf> how come when I compress an aiff file that is the same as another mp3 file.  And compress that as an mp3, it is larger?
[09:01] <Seveas> patched
[09:01] <gnomefreak> brasko, patched and if you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade you will get it
[09:01] <humbraro> Edgan: if you have a spare throw-away partition lying around you could try it
[09:02] <brasko> OK, thanks.
[09:02] <dbernar1> Eleaf: larger than what? Larger than the aiff, or the mp3?
[09:02] <Edgan> humbraro: I know a better way
[09:02] <Eleaf> dbernar1, larger than the mp3
[09:02] <gnomefreak> !bug
[09:02] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[09:02] <Edgan> humbraro: echo /home/edgan/*
[09:02] <SEJeff> humbraro, Whatever you did likely affected the special file, ".." which means parent directory
[09:02] <Eleaf> dbernar1, I converted an mp3 to an aiff and edited that.  Then converted that again to mp3, it is larger than the origional
[09:02] <dbernar1> Eleaf: I can think of the rate thing, not sure what it is called, the quality setting.
[09:02] <thegladiator> i am running no package uopdates and yet my upadte manager doesnt open asying it cant open th lock
[09:03] <humbraro> SEJeff: GOOD CALL! .* might also include ..
[09:03] <Eleaf> dbernar1, even using a smaller bitrate
[09:03] <Edgan> humbraro: That doesn't include . files and hence shouldn't have escaped from the home directory, and even if it did for some reason, directory vs. directory/* shouldn't have made much of a difference
[09:03] <Edgan> humbraro: try this
[09:03] <levander> how do I pass this whole command to sudo?  So that the shell doesn't try to open /etc/fstab with my user's permissions, but with root's permissions? 'sudo grep Music /mnt/etc/fstab >> /etc/fstab'
[09:03] <Edgan> humbraro: echo /home/brianna/* and tell me if it means .anything
[09:04] <melodie> he men! some of you read french here ?  ;o)
[09:04] <pashaw> levander,   are try to pull out any Music enties in an fstab?
[09:04] <BxL> melodie, #ubuntu-fr
[09:04] <Edgan> levander: try sudo 'grep Music /mnt/etc/fstab >> /etc/fstab' or sudo "grep Music /mnt/etc/fstab >> /etc/fstab"
[09:04] <psusi> levander, sudo bash -c 'foo >> /bar'
[09:04] <Kindred> !fr
[09:04] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:04] <humbraro> edgan it prints "/home/brianna/Desktop", which is the only dir in there
[09:04] <levander> Edgan: I tried those, didn't work
[09:04] <Ely> SEJeff, I see sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5 with an extension ending in .deb which one should I get? is either one ok?
[09:04] <Ely> sorry to be a pain
[09:04] <Ely> lol
[09:04] <levander> psusi: yeah, i'll try your
[09:04] <melodie> Kindred, some people wrote a book about Ubuntu in french :)
[09:04] <levander> yours*
[09:05] <titanium_platypu> hey
[09:05] <Edgan> humbraro: So it shouldn't have done all of /home if you just did a chown -R /home/brianna/*
[09:05] <vilefridge> pashaw:  Thanks for the earlier suggestion w/ dpkg-reconfigure.  It worked!  Don't know what had been going on there before.
[09:05] <melodie> written by 3 people
[09:05] <SEJeff> Ely, jre == java runtime environment. j2sdk = java software development kit. To make java run in webpages, you only need the jre
[09:05] <Kindred> melodie: good :)
[09:05] <Edgan> humbraro: I mean  chown -R user.group /home/brianna/*
[09:05] <pashaw> vilefridge,   great to hear
[09:05] <riddlebox> does kubuntu use the kde 3.5
[09:05] <titanium_platypu> I am considering switching from Fedora to Ubuntu, and would like a brief description of the differences I'll encounter.  I am primarily interested in two things: games :-D, and package/application management.
[09:05] <titanium_platypu> can someone give me that info?
[09:05] <Ely> ok thanks!
[09:05] <Ely> brb
[09:05] <humbraro> Edgan: right, but since the start of this, i've done 'chown -R brianna:brianna /home/brianna' and it worked
[09:06] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, Package management in ubuntu is 10x better. I switched from fedora --> ubuntu
[09:06] <Edgan> humbraro: I suspect you typoed the first time
[09:06] <BxL> titanium_platypu, apt-get. it's like yum, but in better.
[09:06] <bshumate> titanium_platypu: i don't play many games, but package management will certainly be better for you in Ubuntu, but that's just my $0.02 USD ;-)
[09:06] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, And synaptic or gnome-app-install are very nice frontends to apt-get
[09:07] <Edgan> titanium_platypu: There isn't big difference in general between the two in those area. Ubuntu in general makes a better desktop though, with a few issues.
[09:07] <vilefridge> pashaw:  new issue :)  The hard drives in use were (2) 40GB drives.  One with Windows 2000, the other with Ubuntu 5.10.  I copied each drive to a striped 80GB array.  Grub no longer presents a boot menu.  Is there a way to reload grub without ruining the data?
[09:07] <humbraro> either way, i got the syntax right now, so thanks very much
[09:07] <SEJeff> humbraro, yw
[09:07] <levander> psusi: thanks, yours worked!
[09:07] <skon> vilefridge: reinstall it from the original Ubuntu install disk
[09:07] <melodie> Kindred, here is the info:http://www.eyrolles.com/Accueil/Livre/9782212116083/
[09:07] <melodie> wao!!!!!!
[09:07] <pashaw> levander, did you get it working?
[09:08] <titanium_platypu> thanks for the info.  So, what games does Ubuntu come with (I don't need to know them all; I'm basically just interested in if it has a nice complement of them like Fedora does)?  Also, I know what apt is, and what format of package does Ubuntu use?
[09:08] <pashaw> vilefridge,   why would you want a striped array?  curious?
[09:09] <sproingie> vilefridge: go into expert install mode on the ubuntu install disk and skip to the "install bootloader" step
[09:09] <Edgan> titanium_platypu: The package format of Ubuntu is deb, like Debian, which it is based on
[09:09] <garry> I prefer the new polkadot array myself.
[09:09] <gnomefreak> titanium_platypu, ubuntu uses .debs instead of .rpms
[09:09] <ltibor65> boys, tell me a midi player for Ubuntu!
[09:10] <Sepheebear> vilefridge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:10] <titanium_platypu> okay, thanks.....so I guess my last question is, does it have a lot of nice little games? :-P
[09:10] <vilefridge> pashaw: speed.  I wanted to experience striped raptors, but ended up getting some NCQ seagates, on budget :P
[09:10] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, Ubuntu has the gnome-games that fedora has. All of them. It also has things "Battle for Wesnoth" "Lincity-ng" "Chromium" etc. Not a huge difference vs fedora as far as that goes
[09:10] <Edgan> titanium_platypu: Most linux distros have all the same games
[09:10] <skon> titanium_platypu: penguin racer is a good one :-D
[09:10] <vilefridge> skon, sproingie, Sepheebear: Thanks for the info, I'll pop my Install disc in and give that a whirl!  =)
[09:11] <Edgan> titanium_platypu: If you want something especial you download the linux clients for FPSs, or run something like Cedega to play Windows games.
[09:11] <garry> Except we don't have the kernel panic game usually, You have to work to install it.
[09:11] <titanium_platypu> yeah, I know most of them have the same games....but Fedora is missing some of the really good ones like Chromium and stuff.
[09:11] <titanium_platypu> I don't want anything special.
[09:11] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, Well Ubuntu has those
[09:11] <titanium_platypu> It already sounds like it has a much better game selection than Fedora.
[09:11] <titanium_platypu> Okay, thanks guys, I think I'll definitely do it.
[09:11] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, I play iagno, chromium, and battle for wesnoth all the time when I'm bored
[09:12] <titanium_platypu> Oh, yeah, there was one more thing....is there anything that a lot of people use that Ubuntu doesn't come with?  DVD player, etc.
[09:12] <titanium_platypu> like will I have to tweak it?
[09:12] <bshumate> Frozen Bubble is not installed by default, so you need to install that if you anticipate doing any gaming with Linus ;-)
[09:12] <titanium_platypu> to get stuff that most people like to use?
[09:12] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, Well those things are patent encumbered and will never be installed by default
[09:12] <garry> support for my epson CX6600 printer. oops, sorry bout that.
[09:13] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, Installing mp3 / divx support is super easy. Enable the universe / multiverse repository and install gstreamer0.8-plugins*
[09:13] <BxL> titanium_platypu, there is a big "howto" to enable all the normal thing
[09:13] <BxL> called the ubuntu starter guide.
[09:14] <garry> or maybe I should check. maybe its supported now.
[09:14] <cableguy> whats up
[09:14] <titanium_platypu> sweet.  That Ubuntu starter guide should help me out.  Anything else anybody thinks I ought to know about migrating from Fedora to Ubuntu?
[09:15] <titanium_platypu> brb
[09:15] <comadreja> hello, I get this error when trying to use opengl apps
[09:15] <comadreja> ERROR: line 114, Function intelInitDriver, File intel_screen.c
[09:15] <comadreja> libGL error: InitDriver failed
[09:15] <comadreja> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[09:15] <gnomefreak> how do you upgrade only one package i thought it was sudo apt-get upgrade <packagename>
[09:16] <gnomefreak> comadreja, please use pastebin to paste dont paste in here
[09:16] <Seveas> gnomefreak, you can use upgrade or install
[09:16] <Edgan> titanium_platypu: http://acmserver.cs.ucr.edu/~nsoracco/rpms/ has chormium binary and source rpms for fc4
[09:16] <melodie> gnomefreak, apt-get install yourpackage
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[09:16] <Mysta> hello everyone
[09:17] <cableguy> hello
[09:17] <danny> hey anyone no any gd how to's on setting up a ftp on a webserver
[09:17] <Edgan> SEJeff: Has codec support via win32 dlls got any easier to install?
[09:17] <Cyfr> Hi, I have a logitech quickcam zoom... I'm trying to use webcam in Mercury (sort of works in aMSN!)... anyway, my webcam dosnt seem to stop using applications properly when they close down
[09:17] <XiCillin> can you use x86 win32 codecs on breezy64?
[09:17] <Cyfr> Is there a way to like unload it then load it again?
[09:17] <skon> danny: just do sudo apt-get install ftpd
[09:18] <pashaw> danny,   google    ftpprogram guide        like   proftp guide
[09:18] <Edgan> XiCillin: I think you would have to use a chroot with the 32bit version of mplayer or xine
[09:18] <danny> k thanks
[09:18] <Mysta> i was looking info on theming ubuntu
[09:18] <Mysta> looking for info...
[09:18] <Sepheebear> danny: apt-get install proftpd-doc
[09:18] <pashaw> Mysta,  http://www.gnome-look.org/
[09:19] <Mysta> thx pashaw
[09:19] <Ely> SEJeff, Now I have this called sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+10_i386.deb on my desktop I tried to execute it but it just tried to open in the application Archive Manager. I see there's a Package Manager I tried browing through that program to install it but I dont see a way.
[09:19] <Ely> right clicking doenst give me any options to install either
[09:20] <Mysta> anyone installed on vmware yet?
[09:20] <Cyfr> Anyone know about the webcam unloading thing? :(
[09:20] <Ely> should I do this in the terminal?
[09:20] <garry> Wow, my epson CX6600 printer works now.
[09:20] <gnomefreak> ok i think i got it i was trying to apt-get install locales 2.3.7-1 and all i needed was locales :)
[09:20] <Edgan> Mysta: I have seen a howto in the forums before. I use VMware regularly.
[09:21] <dirk__> I have a quick question about adding something to the Gnome menu, I use the command "wine c:\\Program\ Files\\Sage\ Software\\Peachtree\\peachw.exe" to get my accounting package to run, but when I put the identical line in the menu it doesn't work, any help?
[09:21] <Sepheebear> Ely: open a terminal and do "sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+10_i386.deb"
[09:21] <Ely> ok thanks Sepheebear !
[09:21] <Mysta> edgan: i'll search the forums for the howto, unless you can point me there...
[09:21] <Edgan> Ely: You would probably be better off with a newer version sun's jre is up to 1.5.0_06
[09:21] <XiCillin> anyone got mplayer working on amd64?
[09:22] <Ely> hmmm I didnt see that one let me check again
[09:22] <Sturgeon> I have a question here. I want to run a program as a normal user, but with high priority (with nice -n -19, say) but only root can do that. How can i do this?
[09:22] <Ely> brb
[09:22] <Sturgeon> if i use sudo nice -n -19 program, it will run as root
[09:24] <dbernar1> Sturgeon: the higher the nice number the lower priority, it stands for "I am nice, this is how much I am nice to other users"
[09:24] <humbraro> Sturgeon: you should be able to start the process, the re-nice it as root - my understanding is that only root can nice a program up, ie, make it higher priority
[09:24] <dbernar1> Do you get that?
[09:25] <epp> hey how do i set up the java sdk?
[09:25] <Ely> dpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (--install):
[09:25] <Ely>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:25] <humbraro> Sturgeon: that should read theN re-nice it as root
[09:26] <Ely> how do I navigate to the desktop where the file is?
[09:26] <Ely> cd then what?
[09:26] <Ely> lol I know the command but no idea the path
[09:26] <dbernar1> cd ~/Desktop
[09:26] <Ely> wow that's easy
[09:26] <Ely> thanks
[09:26] <dbernar1> $20
[09:26] <dbernar1> easy, but expensive.
[09:26] <Ely> haha
[09:27] <_rYe_> is this right? "sudo ndiswrapper -i /Desktop/to/netbc564.inf"
[09:27] <Edgan> XiCillin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29
[09:27] <windowsrefund> greets
[09:27] <dbernar1> _rYe_: does it do what you want it to?
[09:28] <Ely> Unpacking sun-j2re1.5 (from sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb) ...
[09:28] <Ely> Setting up sun-j2re1.5 (1.5.0+update06) ...
[09:28] <Ely> ely@Ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[09:28] <Ely> is that it?
[09:28] <dbernar1> Ely: mostly.
[09:28] <pashaw> !enter
[09:28] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:28] <windowsrefund> in order to obtain mysql libraries and headers, should I just install libmysqlclient14-dev?
[09:28] <_rYe_> dbernar1: i dont knw
[09:28] <dbernar1> _rYe_: go ahead and try.
[09:28] <garry> I got to say, this is one of the most well behaved forums I've been in. Some forums like I'm sad to say alt.linux you say something incorrect, and its like a capitol offense. Make a mistake here and people kindly help you learn. So peaceful here, I think I might pinch myself and wake up.
[09:28] <epp> anyone sucessfully developing in java?
[09:28] <_rYe_> dbernar1: it doesnt work
[09:29] <dbernar1> epp: what is succesfully?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> the package x-window-system-core is that needed for X to be usable?
[09:29] <garry> alt.linux Where virtual road rage lives forever.
[09:29] <Knowerrors> Hey all, Im getting this error when I try start Firefox "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" , help please
[09:29] <dbernar1> _rYe_: what is it not doing? and what is it doing?
[09:29] <Cyfr> Anyone know how I can reload my webcam so that applications dont think its in use? :(
[09:29] <epp> dbernar1, like set up the sdk so java sompiles correctly
[09:29] <epp> copiles*
[09:29] <epp> compiles*
[09:29] <dbernar1> !info x-window-system-core
[09:29] <epp> hehe
[09:29] <ubotu> x-window-system-core: (X Window System core components), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[09:29] <dbernar1> epp: yes.
[09:29] <gnomefreak> ok ty so its safe to remove :)
[09:29] <Edgan> Cyfr: Do you know the device file in /dev for it?
[09:29] <ericmoritz\0> hi, I'm trying to get amarok and/or juk to use musicbrainz with my mp3 files, from what I see, mp3 support for libtunepimp was left out, can anyone help me in getting this working?
[09:29] <epp> dbernar1, are u useing kedevelop?
[09:30] <Cyfr> hmm no is there a way to tell?
[09:30] <dbernar1> gnomefreak: looks like, see what else it tries to remove.
[09:30] <Ely> wow that was easy, thanks guys
[09:30] <Ely> java is installed now
[09:30] <gnomefreak> a few libs
[09:30] <Ely> easy with your help of course lol
[09:30] <Edgan> Cyfr: dmesg might mention it after you have plugged it in
[09:30] <garry> hand over a cup. Thanks Ely. THat hit the spot.
[09:30] <Ely> lol
[09:30] <dbernar1> epp: no. Eclipse myself, but I am a student, I do not develop successfully, and you sdhould have asked whether anyone can compile successfully to reflect what you mean.
[09:30] <dirk__> I have a quick question about adding something to the Gnome menu, I use the command "wine c:\\Program\ Files\\Sage\ Software\\Peachtree\\peachw.exe" to get my accounting package to run, but when I put the identical line in the menu it doesn't work, any help?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> 8 will be removed 15 will be installed and 336 will be updated
[09:31] <dbernar1> Ely: help epp then.
[09:31] <Ely> what does he/she need?
[09:31] <Ely> epp you trying to install Java too?
[09:31] <epp> Ely, Si.
[09:31] <enyc> dirk__: quoting
[09:31] <Java_the_Hutt> Hello i am trying to install "gnokii" but it complains that it says :" gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" in mu system libglib2.0 installed, what can i do ?
[09:31] <Ely> lol you speak spanish?
[09:31] <dbernar1> Ely: ya, but wants the sdk rather than the jre, make sure you get that one.
[09:32] <Edgan> Cyfr: In general you problem is probably one of two things. Either some program is holding on to it, and you need to kill it. Or the driver is buggy and needs to be unloaded. lsof is a useful command for the first problem and lsmod and rmmod would be useful for the second.
[09:32] <enyc> dirk__: the shell is converting the \\ into \
[09:32] <Ely> oh boy
[09:32] <epp> Ely, no... its just fun.
[09:32] <Ely> lol ok I speak Spanish anyway so.....
[09:32] <Ely> ok I ll help you
[09:32] <Ely> one sec
[09:32] <enyc> dirk__: you may need to use \ or \\\\  instead of \\
[09:32] <enyc> dirk__: or you may need to put the command in " quotes
[09:32] <enyc> dirk__: let me know what works ;-)
[09:33] <Ely> first go to this page: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[09:33] <garry> We need a command that says killtherottonprocessIcan'tFindTheNameOf and alias it as Killit!
[09:33] <dbernar1> maybe even the part after wine in quotes only.
[09:33] <enyc> dirk__: you (way) be able to use / instead of \ on the wine command (like in smbclient).. unsure...
[09:33] <Seveas> garry, kill -9 -1
[09:33] <enyc> dirk__: let me know what works ;-)
[09:33] <Ely> ohhh
[09:33] <Seveas> WARNING, that kills all your processes
[09:33] <garry> hehe
[09:33] <Ely> lol I had already gotten the direct link to the file and everything lol
[09:34] <mikoket1> bonsoir  y  a t il un franais ?
[09:34] <dbernar1> ubotu tell Ely about javadeb
[09:34] <garry> That's the command that runs in my head every time I wake up, now I know what's wrong.
[09:34] <gnomefreak> !fr
[09:34] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:34] <Ely> :)
[09:34] <mikoket1> #ubuntu-fr
[09:34] <kakei> hey where can i edit the color of the desktop pager (desktop 1) (desktop 2) etc.
[09:34] <Ely> brb going to play with this OS for a bit, nice meeting you all.
[09:35] <Cyfr> cry :<
[09:35] <Ely> you are all very cool
[09:35] <Cyfr> im such a newb ;d
[09:35] <Cyfr> stupid webcam
[09:35] <epp> Ely, wait.
[09:35] <garry> yep, they sure are.
[09:35] <_rYe_> how do i ext in terminal mode and save the changes that i made..... i installed a driver for wireless lan
[09:35] <Ely> yeah?
[09:35] <garry> ext?
[09:35] <epp> Eli, sorry i had to go for a minute, so thats all i have to do is go to that page?
[09:36] <Ely> lol
[09:36] <Ely> now you are pulling my leg
[09:36] <Cyfr> I dont think its an application I think its a dodgy driver
[09:36] <theconartist> grr
[09:36] <Cyfr> because if I unplug the usb webcam and plug it in elsewhere it still lights up green
[09:36] <Cyfr> :P
[09:36] <theconartist> wine is pissing me off
[09:36] <Ely> no, you go that page then get the file then open terminal then type a command and boom!!
[09:36] <Ely> done
[09:36] <Ely> lol
[09:36] <_rYe_> how do i exit in terminal mode and save the changes that i made..... i installed a driver for wireless lan
[09:36] <greenpenguin13> kakei: in the source code :p
[09:36] <dm> 'I am in dapper !! And i dont have a wireless card? anyone else find this problem????
[09:36] <garry> Next version of Fedora - Panicky Porcupine.
[09:36] <Edgan> garry: Maybe something like kill -9 `ps -ax -o pid | pickrandom`
[09:37] <garry> Edgan haha
[09:37] <kakei> greenpenguin13, lol, i have kde have to be a way
[09:37] <Hobart> Leap second details for ubuntu?
[09:37] <epp> yeah i know that...
[09:37] <Ely> oh one more question, is anyway to access my Windows XP partition from here?
[09:37] <Ely> epp I know you know hehe.
[09:37] <pashaw> dm,   dapper is ment for users that can fix thier own problems
[09:38] <Hobart> zdump -v right/US/Mountain | grep 2005  doesn't show leap second fix
[09:38] <Edgan> Cyfr: ok, we can run with the driver assumption, paste the output of /sbin/lsmod to www.pastebin.com
[09:38] <garry> If my mind were running an operating system it would be Migrainesoft Bob.
[09:38] <dm> pashaw dude. dont comment if you dont have anything useful to say
[09:39] <Edgan> Ely: there is a ntfs driver that would let you mount the XP partition
[09:39] <jadewolf> Hello I've been hearing a bit about ubuntu and was wondering if someone could tell me what makes it a better choice over any other 'flavour' of linux?
[09:39] <epp> Eli, which file... the SDK?
[09:39] <dbernar1> Edgan: where is this driver?
[09:39] <epp> 1.4 or .15?
[09:39] <_rYe_> dbernar1: how do i save and exit in the terminal?
[09:39] <iamsthitha> hey.. can anyone send me their us.map.gz ?
[09:39] <dbernar1> ubotu: tell ely about ntfs
[09:39] <Ely> http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[09:39] <Edgan> dbernar1: That is the point, we aren't sure, so I want a list of loaded modules
[09:39] <dbernar1> _rYe_: what were we doing? what program?
[09:39] <nautiazn85> Hmm... should i run a webserver off of ubuntu or debian?
[09:39] <Ely> that's the one epp, now I dont know if you are serious or what, just in case lol.
[09:39] <dbernar1> Edgan: for ntfs?
[09:39] <captainredbeard> Ely, you can mount and read from it following www.ubuntuguide.org but can't write to it
[09:39] <Ely> to exit the terminal type exit
[09:39] <dbernar1> ubotu: tell Edgan about ntfs
[09:39] <Ely> I think lol
[09:39] <Edgan> dbernar1: ah, ntfs
[09:40] <garry> Ease of install, regular updates, huge repositories, great community support.
[09:40] <self_> hello all
[09:40] <epp> Ely, no just pullin your leg this time =).
[09:40] <_rYe_> dbernar1: i just installed a driver in terminal mode... how do i save and exit? i just type exit?
[09:40] <Ely> lol
[09:40] <Ely> brb now for real
[09:40] <self_> how do i log in as root in ubuntu?
[09:40] <titanium_platypu> back
[09:40] <Edgan> dbernar1: It is in the standard kernel source code, but not sure Ubuntu includes it by default.
[09:40] <pashaw> dm,   dont take it personal  i dont know your ability level     if your not a beginner  my apoligies
[09:40] <dbernar1> _rYe_: exit exits the terminal. the terminal does not need to be saved. it is a command line.
[09:41] <titanium_platypu> okay, well, thanks a lot, guys.  I appreciate the info :)
[09:41] <Ely> captainredbeard, thanks!
[09:41] <garry> We need a bot that auto-answers certain faqs.
[09:41] <dbernar1> Edgan: yes, Ubuntu does. Read the link Ubotu sent you.
[09:41] <dm> pashaw im not but i was asking for quick reference, so i dont have to spend all my time on just my wireless card
[09:41] <Edgan> dbernar1: yeah, I was just reading http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:41] <captainredbeard> self_ run gdm_admin and enable root log on, then log out, and log in as root
[09:41] <dbernar1> captainredbeard: we do not use ubuntuguide, and we use:
[09:41] <dbernar1> !ntfs
[09:41] <Stew_Lappy> Is ubuntu married? I am just so in love with this
[09:41] <dbernar1> !+ntfs
[09:41] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[09:42] <pashaw> dm,   my comment is the truth    its helps stop beginners from wasting time with dapper
[09:42] <captainredbeard> dbernar1, why no longer use ubuntuguide?
[09:42] <self_> how do i log in as root in ubuntu i have setthe password but it says i cannot log in from this screen
[09:42] <dm> pashaw aye :) hehe im testing it full time
[09:42] <dbernar1> ubotu: tell captainredbeard about ubuntuguide
[09:42] <self_> lol
[09:42] <pashaw> dm,   good luck tho seriously
[09:42] <dm> pashaw thanks
[09:42] <Cyfr> Edgan, http://pastebin.com/485591
[09:42] <Edgan> ubotu: tell Edgan about ubuntuguide
[09:42] <self_> <<is under pressure
[09:42] <jadewolf> Just 1 CD to download for install?
[09:42] <riddlebox> self_:I think you are supposed to use sudo commandname
[09:42] <dbernar1> !+ask the bot
[09:42] <self_> in aterminal?
[09:42] <ubotu> from memory, ask the bot is to get information about common things, try asking me, the bot. You can private message me if your nick is registered(/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER) you can private message me, by using /msg ubotu mp3, for example. to find out whether a package is in the official !repos and in which one, /msg ubotu info packagename, or to find which packages contain a file/keyword, /msg ubotu find keyword
[09:43] <self_> sudo root?
[09:43] <riddlebox> self_:yeah, I believe there may be a write to allow you to log in as root
[09:43] <pashaw> dm,   then hurry it up  i would like to use the released version  :p
[09:43] <self_> ok ill give it a go
[09:43] <jlund> So I have a history file from Synaptic of packages that I just installed to test that I would now like to remove. I've used sed to remove all of the version information so I have a clean list of just package names. What I am wondering is if there is a way to use this file as the argument for apt-get remove.
[09:43] <dm>  pashaw hehe..
[09:43] <dm> pashaw so far install was about 5x faster than breezy was
[09:43] <riddlebox> self_: no lets say you want to run synaptic from commandline. sudo synaptic
[09:44] <garry> self_,  The logging in by root is disabled by defualt. It keeps the viruses out for one thing. Most all you need to do is put sudo before the command you want to execute, It asks for a password and you give it your regular user account password, then the command runs.
[09:44] <jadewolf> Garry: do i just download the ubuntu 5.10 Install CD for my Arch?
[09:44] <captainredbeard> self_ why do you want to log on as root anyway? its dangerous
[09:44] <Edgan> Cyfr: ok, the module is pwc
[09:44] <dbernar1> ubotu: tell self_ about root
[09:44] <dm> pashaw but it doesnt have alot of the updates, and flight 2 would not install on my system
[09:44] <Edgan> Cyfr: as root, you should try rmmod pwc
[09:44] <garry> jadewolf far as I know.
[09:44] <self_> sudo root is not right..lol
[09:44] <kakei> who can help me chaging the colors of the 1,2,3,4 (DESKTOPS) http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1473/kakei0vx.jpg
[09:44] <dbernar1> jadewolf: ya, that is it.
[09:44] <Cyfr> Okay done, its either hanging or doing something :p my pointers on a blank line in termnial now ;z
[09:45] <pashaw> dm,   figured when i read it was alpha i skipped   besides im used to debian being a bit behind everyone esle anyway  :)
[09:45] <greenpenguin13> kakei: try #kubuntu
[09:45] <Iga> hi everyone ; I just started a low-level format, does anybody know how many time it will take before it ends ?
[09:45] <dm> pashaw well from what i hear its blowing gentoo out the window
[09:45] <self_> i have to executa a command and i need root to do it
[09:45] <self_> execute even
[09:45] <Edgan> Cyfr: Hmm, maybe it is a program, lets try this
[09:45] <self_> lol
[09:46] <dbernar1> self_: read the page Ubotu linked you to. or "sudo command" works
[09:46] <lightbright> anyone home?
[09:46] <dbernar1> I am at work
[09:46] <garry> jadewolf if you don't find your arch, say you have a pentium, you get the i386 and when ubuntu starts up it seems to sense that you could use a better arch and offers to download and install kernels for 686/Pentiums
[09:46] <Edgan> Cyfr: lsof -n | grep video  as root
[09:46] <lightbright> dbernar1: what you do for work?
[09:46] <QT4Dance> Please I need help, Any body here has Laptop with built in Bluetooth?
[09:46] <lightbright> QT4Dance: no sorry
[09:46] <dbernar1> lightbright: tech support for Comcast.
[09:46] <captainredbeard> yeah self_ you just need to place "sudo" before the command
[09:46] <jadewolf> Garry: I see
[09:46] <lightbright> dbernar1: whats Comcast?
[09:46] <Cyfr> okay done that Edgan
[09:46] <Sturgeon> Where are the aliases stored?
[09:46] <QT4Dance> :(
[09:46] <self_> ah i see
[09:47] <dbernar1> lightbright: comcast.com
[09:47] <Sturgeon> I see that there is an alias "ls=ls --color=auto" but i can't find where it is created
[09:47] <lightbright> dbernar1: what they do>
[09:47] <gnomefreak> comcast is a cable/isp company
[09:47] <Edgan> Cyfr: any output?
[09:47] <Cyfr> nope
[09:47] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ah opk
[09:47] <dbernar1> Sturgeon: in /etc/bash.bashrc most likely.
[09:47] <alvaro> hello, i installed things using automatix, and now it says that i have updates like installing opera, x-chat, totem-xine --- but i already have these installed, should i just click install anyways?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> mainly in north east us
[09:47] <Edgan> Cyfr: That would suggest it isn't a program.
[09:47] <garry> yep, click them installs.
[09:48] <captainredbeard> alvaro, i wouldn't recommend using automatix, either update your repos or find a deb somewher else
[09:48] <dbernar1> alvaro: you should stop using automatix most likely. But I never used it so I do not know, I just heard stories here that it breaks things.
[09:48] <gnomefreak> !automatrix
[09:48] <ubotu> No idea, gnomefreak
[09:48] <Iga> Nobody knows how many time a low-level format on a 160 GB 7200 rpm Seagate hard disk will take ?
[09:48] <TTilus> whats the easiest way to find out if certain drivers (sk98lin, bmc4400 aka b44) included in most recent linux kernel?
[09:48] <Cyfr> should I just tru rebooting? :p
[09:48] <Cyfr> try*
[09:48] <garry> oops, I missed something apparrently, nix my advice.
[09:48] <lightbright> I have heard (not sure) that automatix causes a LOT of trouble
[09:48] <gnomefreak> you used to knwo it :(
[09:48] <Edgan> Cyfr: and pwc isn't used by another module, so if rmmod fails, your only recourse is to reboot
[09:48] <Cyfr> brb ;)
[09:48] <alvaro> well last night someone recommended me here to get automatix to install opera :S
[09:48] <Knowerrors> I think my java plugin for Firefox is linked wrong, I get "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" anybody know how to fix this?
[09:48] <self_> si have to be logged in as root the sysyem will not accept sudo
[09:48] <pashaw> !automatix
[09:48] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:49] <jadewolf> Garry: how is ubuntu with ATI video cards?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> spelled it wrong :(
[09:49] <captainredbeard> jadewolf, depends what card :P
[09:49] <jadewolf> 9800 Pro 128M
[09:49] <wizardjames> is there a such fuction for xmms?
[09:49] <pashaw> !tell jadewolf about ati
[09:49] <gnomefreak> alvaro, i wouldnt use it
[09:49] <captainredbeard> jadewolf, that card should work fine, you just need to install and use the fglrx driver instead of the ati one
[09:49] <self_> ill refrase that..lol i have to be logged in as root because the sytem will not allow the command
[09:50] <Edgan> Iga: There really isn't such a thing as a low level format anymore. The closest you get is just writting zeros across the whole drive.
[09:50] <lightbright> gnomefreak: you not going out for new years eve?
[09:50] <garry> jadewolf I here there are some issues. I heard there is some sort of fix recently, I liked ati, but use nvidia myself. Ye might want to google ubuntu breezy ATI to see what its all about.
[09:50] <self_> hello gnome..lol
[09:50] <Iga> I have got Ati 9500 Pro 128m, it works fine ;-)
[09:50] <pashaw> alvaro,   its not recommended as it can really hose a system
[09:50] <gnomefreak> lightbright, im not sure yet maybe to a friends
[09:50] <alvaro> should i remove it then?
[09:50] <self_> i can now open a terminal in a folder..lol
[09:50] <pashaw> !tell alvaro about opera
[09:50] <garry> Iga, did ye have to do anything special to get it working?
[09:51] <alvaro> i already used it thought
[09:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I didnt go out, not worth the hassle
[09:51] <gnomefreak> opera can be found at opera.com or you can get an opera repo from easysource
[09:51] <alvaro> though(
[09:51] <pashaw> alvaro,   just dont use it anymore
[09:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: stay at home, its safer
[09:51] <alvaro> should i remove automatix then?
[09:51] <lightbright> alvaro: I would
[09:51] <gnomefreak> lol lightbright very true
[09:51] <alvaro> what's the command to remove it? :P
[09:51] <lightbright> alvaro: I have heard (not sure, cannot 100% verify) that automatix causes a LOT of trouble
[09:51] <self_> gnome is not talking to me ..winge
[09:51] <self_> lol
[09:51] <Stew_Lappy> is there a program to use par files?
[09:51] <garry> Oops, gotta rush.
[09:52] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes, I have a feeling to ask you to stay at home for some reason
[09:52] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove --purge automatix?
[09:52] <Knowerrors> Anyone knowing about java plugin for FF, should it be linked to /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/ns4, ns610, or ns610-gcc32?
[09:52] <lightbright> self_: would you like a hug?
[09:52] <dirk__> enyc:finaly got it to go, I ended up w/o quotes but w/ triplle '\'
[09:52] <TTilus> whats the easiest way to find out if certain drivers (sk98lin, bmc4400 aka b44) included in most recent linux kernel?  (wouldnt like to download sources only to do find -name)
[09:52] <dirk__> enyc: Thanks alot.
[09:52] <self_> er i dont know
[09:52] <greenpenguin13> is it possible to start X apps so they persist across gnome sessions?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Knowerrors about java
[09:52] <self_> lol
[09:52] <self_> its new year me thinks
[09:52] <lightbright> self_: you seem like you need some attention :P
[09:52] <lightbright> self_: feeling lonely?
[09:52] <Edgan> Iga: The reason is that drives reallocate bad blocks automatically, so there is a layer of abstraction that has been added. If you want to "format" it to clean it before you ship it to someone, sale it, or destory it, there are programs to do multiple passes of writes to make detection of previous data at least harder.
[09:53] <self_> help..<<is male
[09:53] <Ely> You have all been very helpful, I gotto go, see you all soon.
[09:53] <self_> lmao
[09:53] <Sturgeon> dbernar1: nope, not there :(
[09:53] <self_> sorry
[09:53] <self_> any ways how do i log in as root
[09:53] <self_> :p
[09:53] <lightbright> self_: yes its possible
[09:53] <dbernar1> Sturgeon: /etc/profile?
[09:53] <Stew_Lappy> is there a program to use par files?
[09:53] <Sturgeon> dbernar1: neither
[09:53] <dbernar1> !root
[09:53] <ubotu> I heard root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[09:54] <gnomefreak> self_,  use sudo
[09:54] <captainredbeard> self_ have you locked your self out of the sudoers file?
[09:54] <self_> gnome i have tried sudo in front of the code but the sytem will not allow it
[09:54] <Edgan> greenpenguin13: You would need something like vnc, nomachine, or something like that. They would allow you to disconnect the viewing without killing whats running.
[09:54] <self_> i have to be logged in as root
[09:54] <gnomefreak> self_, what does it say?
[09:54] <lightbright> self_: want to know how?
[09:54] <captainredbeard> self_ what command is it?
[09:54] <j2daosh> hows it going everyone
[09:55] <self_> its a piece of code
[09:55] <lightbright> self_: if you want to log in as root, do this. Boot-up computer
[09:55] <lightbright> self_: If GRUB menu is hidden, press 'Esc' to enter the GRUB menu
[09:55] <epp> whats the command to runa  deb file?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> self_,  define peice of code
[09:55] <lightbright> self_: If GRUB password is set, press 'p' to unlock the GRUB menu
[09:55] <j2daosh> epp
[09:55] <lightbright> self_: Select Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[09:55] <j2daosh> dpkg -i (for install) filename
[09:55] <lightbright> self_: then, Press 'e' to edit the commands before booting
[09:55] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg -i <faile.deb
[09:55] <lightbright> self_: Select kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[09:55] <lightbright> self_: Press 'e' to edit the selected command in the boot sequence
[09:55] <Edgan> dbernar1: I am not a big fan of the maintainers pushing of sudo. It is was of the negative aspects of Ubuntu IMHO.
[09:55] <j2daosh> oh yeah... sudo that
[09:56] <j2daosh> lol
[09:56] <greenpenguin13> i was thinking more about being able to logout (say after changing something) and login with gaim still running
[09:56] <lightbright> self_: , then, Add "rw init=/bin/bash" to the end of the arguments
[09:56] <gnomefreak> 2.6.10-5??????????
[09:56] <epp> j2daosh, thank you
[09:56] <j2daosh> ur welcome
[09:56] <lightbright> self_: then Press 'b' to boot!  this will log you in as root
[09:56] <self_> first line is:QEMU=/tmp/allinoneqemu_linux.$$..
[09:56] <lightbright> self_: did you get all that?
[09:56] <dbernar1> Edgan: nice of you to share?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> isnt breezy on 2.6.12-10?
[09:56] <j2daosh> woot woot... i feel special cuz i answered a question
[09:56] <self_> yes i will try it
[09:56] <lightbright> self_: or whatever your kernel is
[09:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yeah whatever his kernel is
[09:56] <j2daosh> but now i got one... its an easy one though and i just need clarification
[09:56] <xt3rminalx> how could I startx?
[09:57] <self_> :-)
[09:57] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[09:57] <gnomefreak> scared me for a min there
[09:57] <Sturgeon> any other ideas about where alias may be declared by default?
[09:57] <self_> how come we are all on here at newyear?..lol
[09:57] <j2daosh> in order to shared files (read and write) between my linux box and every other computer in my house... i have to set one drive with an nfs partition correct?
[09:57] <Edgan> greenpenguin13: A friend of mine talked about writing an X proxy that would let you do that, but he never wrote it. :(
[09:57] <lightbright> self_: did you get all that?
[09:57] <self_> yes..
[09:57] <Knowerrors> gnomefreak: read that wiki, no help, I don't have an ns7 folder
[09:57] <lightbright> self_: whats new year anyway mean to you?
[09:57] <self_> ihave coppied it
[09:57] <lightbright> self_: well go now and log in as root then :P
[09:58] <pashaw> j2daosh,   only if they are all unix    otherwise use samba
[09:58] <self_> well its a time for forgiveness..and a new start
[09:58] <epp> new years means get smashed and fuck!
[09:58] <self_> lol
[09:58] <self_> maybe that too
[09:58] <j2daosh> pashaw... i was thinking about that but i cant seem to share the folder
[09:58] <gnomefreak> Knowerrors, you installed j2re already?
[09:59] <pashaw> j2daosh,   you can share any  format the system its in can read  ext2 ext3  ntfs(readonly)   otherwise ntfs if windwows is running
[09:59] <greenpenguin13> oh well
[09:59] <lightbright> self_: forgiviness sets a prisoner free, only to realise that all along that prisoner was YOU
[09:59] <self_> <<is going to get er squiffy laters me thinks
[09:59] <self_> you may be right
[09:59] <pashaw> j2daosh, you want to share a linux folder?  or off your windows?
[09:59] <j2daosh> i made a shared folder on my linux box and shared with out with smb... but when i went upstairs to try and get into that folder with the windows box it wouldn't see the folder... or my linux box for that matter
[09:59] <Java_the_Hutt> anyone experience with GPRS /Edge ?
[09:59] <j2daosh> both... linux folder just for the moment
[09:59] <j2daosh> once i get that down then i can share out some windows ones
[10:00] <self_> but ...life is what you make it
[10:00] <lightbright> self_: hatred is like drinking posion and waiting for the other person to die
[10:00] <pashaw> j2daosh,   ok  sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf    did you   sudo  smbpasswd -a username    your linux user?
[10:00] <self_> lmao..
[10:00] <j2daosh> nope...
[10:00] <pashaw> j2daosh,   sorry  changed my question mid typing
[10:00] <j2daosh> its ok... i didn't do either of those lol
[10:00] <self_> no why wait..lol
[10:00] <pashaw> j2daosh,   lol
[10:01] <pashaw> j2daosh,   ok first you can use   system>admin>sharedfolder
[10:01] <j2daosh> so which one first? the gedit? or put a password on it
[10:01] <jhenn> how do i tell which version of x.org i have installed?
[10:01] <j2daosh> ok
[10:01] <Knowerrors> gnomefreak: yeah
[10:01] <j2daosh> oh... but that brings up another interesting question
[10:01] <j2daosh> i cant do any admin stuff from this account im on right now....
[10:02] <j2daosh> i dont know why
[10:02] <Knowerrors> gnomefreak: I just need the plugin to point to the right place
[10:02] <j2daosh> i can su
[10:02] <pashaw> j2daosh,   then i like to sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf   find the area that reads AUTHENTICATION and remove the ; infront of security-user
[10:02] <j2daosh> but not sudo
[10:02] <gnomefreak> did you happen to get the deb or are you getting it from sunjava.com?
[10:02] <self_> i asked before but i was off topic where are you all from?
[10:02] <self_> <<<<off topic
[10:02] <self_> lmao
[10:02] <pashaw> j2daosh,   huh?   didyou create a root account?
[10:02] <alvaro> hey when i upgraded the software it says i had problems on my system
[10:02] <j2daosh> ...i dont think so
[10:02] <pashaw> self_,   #ubuntu-offtopic  for those questions
[10:02] <alvaro> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/d4x-common_2.5.6-2~breezy1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/d4x/ftpsearch.xml', which is also in package d4x
[10:02] <j2daosh> i used root to make this account like the 2 other ones
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Knowerrors, ubuntu is using wrong java nd you want to make it use the new one?
[10:03] <self_> ok...sorry wellit is newyear
[10:03] <j2daosh> the only thing that i can think might be messing it up is that the root and this account both share the same pw
[10:03] <pashaw> j2daosh,   huh?  ubuntu doesnt have a root by default
[10:03] <j2daosh> root as in like super user root?
[10:03] <self_> ubuntu has a superuser thats you...but no rrot
[10:03] <pashaw> j2daosh,   ubuntu uses  sudo for admin tasks
[10:03] <gnomefreak> pashaw, it doesnt but people make the su usable and it over write the sudo
[10:04] <self_> root even
[10:04] <j2daosh> because root is what i used to make my accounts... f1 screen... logged in as root and created accounts
[10:04] <j2daosh> really gnome?
[10:04] <ericmoritz\0> has anyone here gotten musicbrainz to work with mp3s here?
[10:04] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   thats what im asking him :P
[10:04] <drquin> Hi I need help getting my audigy 2 to work...I get no sound
[10:04] <self_> gnome?
[10:04] <j2daosh> because on my other accounts i can su
[10:04] <j2daosh> and sudo
[10:04] <epp> j2daosh, did you type sudo su?
[10:04] <epp> because that would make you root.
[10:04] <self_> sudo gedit works ...but
[10:04] <j2daosh> is i do su i can do whatever i want without the pw but when i sudo i have to put the pw in everytime
[10:04] <j2daosh> no
[10:04] <j2daosh> just su
[10:04] <epp> hmmm...
[10:04] <gnomefreak> sudo -i makes you root too and safe :(
[10:05] <pashaw> j2daosh,   you enabled the root account  then
[10:05] <self_> gnome?
[10:05] <pashaw> j2daosh,  su wont work without it
[10:05] <j2daosh> lol well then i managed to do something i didn't know how to do then..
[10:05] <self_> sudo -i
[10:05] <j2daosh> cool
[10:05] <j2daosh> :)
[10:05] <epp> i prefer sudo... because my friends dont know about it in ubuntu/
[10:06] <j2daosh> i prefer sudo if im not chmod 777 globally
[10:06] <pashaw> j2daosh,   your problem now is   anything created with root   has be chmod'd for a normal user to use it
[10:06] <j2daosh> lol
[10:06] <pashaw> j2daosh,  so your doing double work  all day
[10:06] <j2daosh> i haven't created anything though
[10:06] <j2daosh> heres exactly what i did
[10:06] <j2daosh> i went to f1
[10:06] <j2daosh> logged in as root
[10:07] <j2daosh> did adduser username
[10:07] <j2daosh> gave it a pw
[10:07] <self_> so theire is no way of just using a terminal change to get to be root?
[10:07] <j2daosh> loged in with the new account on the gui
[10:07] <pashaw> j2daosh,   stop making new lines for each comment plz :P
[10:07] <j2daosh> self no u have to log in as root on a different terminal to get root
[10:08] <self_> the command is?
[10:08] <self_> sudo rrot
[10:08] <self_> root even
[10:08] <self_> dam key board
[10:08] <pashaw> j2daosh,  yes your using root    root is used on servers where the admin wants to keep users off his/her stuff     with Ubuntu  root is rather pointless as everything is locally owned  unlikie a server setup
[10:08] <Knowerrors> gnomefreak: well Im not sure, its pointing to ns610 folder now, but I get "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" when I run Firefox
[10:08] <j2daosh> sorry pashaw....brb
[10:09] <epp> when i try to creat a project in eclipse... it freezes.
[10:09] <self_> oh quiet isnt it?
[10:09] <self_> lol
[10:09] <darkheart> Hello, which package would the X headers be in?
[10:09] <cocox> hi there! i already installed SWAT (samba) and i access it by http://localhost:901 y login whit my account but afeter that i cant find the link for fill the fields... i just have the options HOME, STATUS, VIEW , PASSWORD... anyone knows where is ??
[10:10] <gnomefreak> Knowerrors,  im not sure what that error is but following the wiki didnt ever give me that error
[10:10] <thegladiator> !kaffeine
[10:10] <ubotu> thegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:10] <thegladiator> is there some link to set up kaffeine ?
[10:10] <Knowerrors> gnomefreak: maybe its unrelated to javaplug
[10:10] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, kaffeine is a kubuntu app not an ubuntu app
[10:11] <thegladiator> ah .
[10:11] <thegladiator> thanks shall check out in kubuntu
[10:11] <sambagirl> hi i have a question, i wanting to get new google toolbar for translations for Mozilla. There is new Mozilla i see, do i need download from mozilla or i can do apt-get thing?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Knowerrors,  if you get the .deb its much easier to install
[10:11] <self_> ok...so what does sudo root do..because it asked foer a password just after?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> sambagirl, FF1.5 is not in ubuntu repos so apt-get will not work use this
[10:12] <gnomefreak> FF1.5
[10:12] <sambagirl> ahh opk
[10:12] <sambagirl> ok
[10:12] <sambagirl> thank you
[10:12] <sambagirl> happy holiday
[10:12] <j2daosh> ok sorry about that pashaw had to help someone with their computer lol... go figure eh
[10:12] <gnomefreak> but no the new google bar has nothing to do with version of FF
[10:12] <self_> gnome what does sudo root command do?
[10:12] <dbernar1> !firefox15
[10:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[10:12] <Knowerrors> gnomefreak: I have to use my own self buildt version of java... for another program
[10:13] <j2daosh> ok where were we... ahh yes the i made the account with the root account and now this account cant sudo and can only su
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Knowerrors, oh i see than sorry i dont know
[10:13] <pashaw> j2daosh,   for one stop using that root account  :P   bad habit  until you know all the risks
[10:13] <dbernar1> j2daosh: and?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> dbernar1,  Seveas changed it this am to know FF1.5 but i forgot the ! ty
[10:13] <wizardjames> how do i get flac working for xmms (and wavpack)
[10:14] <self_> <<is sinking fast
[10:14] <j2daosh> i only used it to make the account... i dont use root other then for that
[10:14] <self_> :-(
[10:14] <dbernar1> wizardjames: mp4 and aac?
[10:15] <dbernar1> j2daosh: sudo adduser newUser admin
[10:15] <wizardjames> ..flac..
[10:15] <epp> does anyone develop in kdevelop?
[10:15] <dbernar1> ok, well, then dont tell me.
[10:15] <j2daosh> i will just sudo which is just as bad lol. anyway though... it seems anything i try to use in the gui that requires a pw wont work
[10:15] <wizardjames> xmms cant see my flac endcoded files
[10:15] <gnomefreak> epp,  sometimes why?
[10:15] <cocox> hi there! i already installed SWAT (samba) and i access it by http://localhost:901 y login whit my account but afeter that i cant find the link for fill the fields... i just have the options HOME, STATUS, VIEW , PASSWORD... anyone knows where is ??
[10:15] <thegladiator> epp, many do ask in #kde
[10:15] <thegladiator> epp, many do ask in #kdevelop i guess
[10:15] <j2daosh> crap... is it because i didn't add this account to the admin group? dont tell me it is something that simple...
[10:16] <FlannelKing> anyone else have problems using xchat and clicking on urls and nothing happening (have to right click, mozilla firefox, etc)
[10:16] <pashaw> j2daosh,   sudo isnt just as bad  only your current command runs  then it stops    so if you cat jumps on the keyboard and hits rm -R    you wont erase everything
[10:16] <Stork> hi, how can i write dvd data under ubuntu?
[10:16] <dbernar1> j2daosh: yes, it is that.
[10:16] <gnomefreak> FlannelKing,  are you pressing ctrl down when clicking the link?
[10:16] <Stork> to a dvd w or dvd rw
[10:16] <dbernar1> wizardjames: whenever you fel like telling me whether flac is mp4/aac I will tell you what I know about that.
[10:16] <FlannelKing> no, is that the key?
[10:16] <j2daosh> u got a point there pashaw.. but my cat is 27 pounds and has to walk down the stairs leaning against the wall... there is no way in hell itcould jump up on the computer lol
[10:17] <crod> Hi there
[10:17] <epp> gnomefreak, when i try to compile in java it gives me tan error.
[10:17] <jhenn> how do you get scalable svg icons in gnome?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> FlannelKing, yes it is
[10:17] <pashaw> !tell j2daosh about samba
[10:17] <FlannelKing> Ah, how handy.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> epp,  a gjc error?
[10:17] <j2daosh> ok... how do i add myself to the admin group?
[10:17] <epp> lemme check
[10:17] <crod> I think I have been infected with spyware... what's the best spyware detector for ubuntu???
[10:17] <j2daosh> sudo group josh admin?
[10:17] <dbernar1> j2daosh: I gave you command.
[10:17] <cvt|nixmas> is ubuntu already set up for wireless internet?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, system adduser
[10:17] <self_> any ways ill catch you all laters...
[10:17] <epp> gnomefreak, i will paste on paste bin.
[10:17] <dbernar1> sudo adduser josh admin
[10:18] <chriswoodall> how do you install this on a external dribe
[10:18] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, define set up there are some wifi cards that are auto detected
[10:18] <Stew_Lappy> cvt|nixmas worked fine on my dell
[10:18] <j2daosh> but will that create a whole nother account or is that just an arguement to get to the change group?
[10:18] <wizardjames> dbernar1,  i dont know what flac is,   its a lossless format..    not mp4 or aac ..
[10:18] <self_> gnome..one question?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, list of hardware can be found at
[10:18] <crod> does any one have experience a VERY slow upload to gmail.... spyware???
[10:18] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[10:18] <ubotu> hardware is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:18] <gnomefreak> self_, ask
[10:18] <wizardjames> !flac
[10:18] <ubotu> wizardjames: Not a clue
[10:18] <dbernar1> wizardjames: OK, then, I do not know yet, I will take a look.
[10:18] <alvaro> hey guys I'm trying to install gcursor but i get an error in the terminal it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:18] <alvaro>   d4x: Depends: d4x-common (= 2.5.6-2~breezy1) but it is not going to be installed
[10:18] <wizardjames> ok
[10:19] <self_> what does new year mean to you?
[10:19] <epp> gnomefreak, here is the error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6426
[10:19] <Stew_Lappy> means i have to remember to put 06 and not 05
[10:19] <Stork> hi, how can i write dvd data under ubuntu? to a dvd rw or dvd r..
[10:19] <gnomefreak> it means 2005 is over and 2006 is starting
[10:19] <crod> how to find antispyware software for ubuntu???
[10:20] <nalioth> Stork: use gnomebake, gravemand or (my fave) k3b
[10:20] <self_> ah not a sentimental type then
[10:20] <self_> lmao
[10:20] <gnomefreak> crod,  synaptic but wont need any
[10:20] <self_> any ways nice one laters
[10:20] <BxL> crod, i don't think there are any spyware on ubuntu
[10:20] <nalioth> crod: you don't need any antispyware for yourself
[10:20] <self_> ;_)
[10:20] <sampan> linux has spyware??? ;x
[10:20] <j2daosh> hey pashaw... can i paste a 4 line erro in here without catching crap?
[10:20] <Stew_Lappy> cant imagine there is spyware on linux
[10:20] <j2daosh> pastebin seems like a waste of space
[10:20] <thegladiator> Stew_Lappy, there is ?
[10:21] <crod> gnomefreak, but there is something going on with my gmail... It doesn't upload
[10:21] <gnomefreak> j2daosh,  use pastebin
[10:21] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:21] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:21] <Stew_Lappy> like I said - I can't imagine
[10:21] <thegladiator> are there spywares in linux ?  i havent had any so far . are there are spyware blasters ?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> crod, maybe a gmail server error?
[10:21] <theCore> how do I configure Apache to execute PSP (Python Server Page) page with mod_python?
[10:21] <epp> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6426
[10:21] <nalioth> crod: that is gmail, not you. it happens on occastion when google is updating it
[10:21] <j2daosh> i cant even open a browser window from the rightlick menu
[10:21] <crod> no... it works fine from my office
[10:21] <j2daosh> that sucks
[10:21] <dbernar1> wizardjames: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/, ctrl+f, "flac"
[10:21] <gnomefreak> epp its saying you dont have tools.jar installed
[10:22] <thegladiator> !spy
[10:22] <ubotu> thegladiator: I give up, what is it?
[10:22] <thegladiator> !spyware
[10:22] <ubotu> Wish i knew, thegladiator
[10:22] <thegladiator> !virus
[10:22] <ubotu> thegladiator: Not a clue
[10:22] <thegladiator> !antivirus
[10:22] <ubotu> thegladiator: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:22] <gnomefreak> !you
[10:22] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me.   The Slapper Worm and Morris Worm never happened!
[10:23] <Hobart> ;)
[10:23] <pashaw> j2daosh,   you dont use sudo and root   its  one or the other
[10:23] <Stork> nalioth, ok, nevermind, found it
[10:23] <Vexor> hello
[10:24] <gnomefreak> hi Vexor
[10:24] <NCLife> hi, i dont know why, i cant see videos with vlc player nore totem.. all i get is a blue screen
[10:24] <Vexor> hey gnomefreak
[10:24] <pashaw> j2daosh,   re-login as your first normal user
[10:24] <j2daosh> i know... but im not a root account... i didn't even add this account to admin until the dbernar1 guy told me about it
[10:24] <crod> where's obotu??? I can't see it
[10:24] <NCLife> i could see videos perfectly yesterday
[10:24] <pashaw> j2daosh, type   groups
[10:24] <j2daosh> ok
[10:25] <pashaw> j2daosh,   do you see admin listed
[10:25] <gnomefreak> NCLife,  have you done updates since than and if so what updates if i may ask
[10:25] <j2daosh> nope
[10:25] <crod> gnomefreak, how do I see obotu ???
[10:25] <viator> hello folks
[10:25] <cocox> hi there! i already installed SWAT (samba) and i access it by http://localhost:901 y login whit my account but afeter that i cant find the link for fill the fields... i just have the options HOME, STATUS, VIEW , PASSWORD... anyone knows where is ??
[10:25] <pashaw> j2daosh,   is this the account you created  when you logged in as root
[10:25] <viator> id like to make an iso from some files in a directory
[10:25] <j2daosh> oh wait u mean the other account
[10:25] <j2daosh> ok
[10:25] <viator> using DD
[10:25] <viator> im not sure what the syntax would be
[10:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell crod  about factoids
[10:26] <j2daosh> no... logged into root str8 after startup and created this account
[10:26] <viator> casue everytime i try it says it cant cause its a directory
[10:26] <crod> thanks gnomefreak
[10:26] <gnomefreak> crod, yw
[10:26] <pashaw> j2daosh,  so yes you created this account while using root
[10:26] <NCLife> gnomefreak, no i dont have made any updates, all ive been trying to do is eject my ipod properly
[10:27] <j2daosh> yes
[10:27] <pashaw> j2daosh,   now you have to use root or your FIRST account to fix the new one  see the trouble root started
[10:27] <viator>  dd if=/home/office1/Desktop/thedirectoryname of=/mynewiso.iso
[10:27] <viator> thats what i tried
[10:27] <gnomefreak> hmmmm NCLife  im not sure than i thought maybe an update interferred with it dont feel bad im in nc and still cant use linux to watch movies maybe its the state?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:27] <j2daosh> lol pashaw... but root is supposed to be my friend... it stabbed me in the back!! no water for root now
[10:28] <viator> cause i need all the files in the directory in the iso
[10:28] <nalioth> j2daosh: root is disabled by designe in ubuntu.
[10:28] <chriswoodall> are theirr any ppc distros that will easily install to (and boot from) a external usb drive
[10:28] <gnomefreak> btw looks like they fixed the locales bug in dapper :)
[10:29] <pashaw> j2daosh,  i dont know any working admins that use root login    we all use su anyway   its my job if i screwup with it
[10:29] <j2daosh> im not sure how i got root up and running then.... i dont recall enabling it... or even where to find it if i wanted to
[10:29] <nalioth> chriswoodall: none yet. it's a deficiency in yaboot
[10:29] <chriswoodall> ahh ok
[10:29] <j2daosh> well isn't su the root anyway?
[10:30] <pashaw> j2daosh,  yes  but you can type exit  to remove it at anytime  if i get called away or the phone rings
[10:30] <richardtallent> I want to install Ubuntu on an old laptop, but it has no CD drive and no USB boot support. Any ideas?
[10:30] <j2daosh> ahh...
[10:30] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, su is disabled in ubuntu (should be)
[10:30] <NCLife> gnomefreak lol, maybe.. i hope not though
[10:30] <pashaw> j2daosh,  but my session   while remain
[10:30] <chriswoodall> network install?
[10:30] <Edgan> pashaw: That is what auto logouts are for, but even then an interactive program will still get you, like top
[10:30] <j2daosh> well then why are all the computers here at work logged in as root?
[10:30] <j2daosh> lol
[10:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell richardtallent about install
[10:30] <richardtallent> Network adapter is USB
[10:30] <chriswoodall> nvm
[10:30] <zsofici> Hello everybody
[10:31] <j2daosh> there is like 15 unix boxes here and they are all logged in as root on the f1 screen...
[10:31] <zsofici> Can I find a 3d world map for ubuntu
[10:31] <j2daosh> oh well... the admin that is here is going back to being a programmer anyway
[10:31] <j2daosh> lol
[10:31] <Edgan> I login to servers as root, especially on the console. I also use su alot, but I don't like sudo.
[10:31] <richardtallent> I have the laptop HD in a USB enclosure on my right now on my desktop (WinXP Pro) and I have both a burned live CD and an install ISO ready to go.
[10:31] <zsofici> something like 3d world map by longgame
[10:31] <dbernar1> !offtopic
[10:31] <ubotu> offtopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:31] <zsofici> please help me
[10:32] <Vexor> I am having trouble removing module declerations form modules.dep.  The particular ones I want removed are included from the 3rd party kernel modules package.  How can I include or remove modules from this package I need?  How are these automatically inserted into this reprository?
[10:32] <pashaw> j2daosh,   he would get fired anywhere iver worked
[10:32] <pashaw> j2daosh,  ok back to your original problem   samba
[10:32] <sethk> richardtallent, it is possible to install from floppies
[10:32] <j2daosh> yes samba
[10:32] <Vexor> This has to be asked frequently, sorry for this repeat
[10:32] <gnomefreak> being logged in as sudo -i and or su is very dangerous and should not be normal practices
[10:33] <pashaw> j2daosh,   type  groups     do you see admin listed
[10:33] <j2daosh> ill have to wait till i get home to check... im at work right now sshed to my home box
[10:33] <j2daosh> i dont think that hitting f1 will work with freenx
[10:33] <linuzo_> how do you install java 1.5 on ubuntu?
[10:33] <Edgan> gnomefreak: sudo command (password) sucks, and /etc/sudoers configuration just makes things worse than su
[10:33] <richardtallent> Where can I get floppy boot images? Also,  can I put the install CD on the HD in a way that the setup program can use it one it has booted far enough to install?
[10:33] <pashaw> j2daosh, who are you talking to?
[10:33] <ardchoille> nalioth: ping
[10:34] <j2daosh> u
[10:34] <pashaw> j2daosh,  your SSH'd into a remote box using the root account?
[10:34] <j2daosh> i would just log in as my other account but it seems everytime i log out i have a problem getting back in
[10:34] <gnomefreak> Edgan, that is personal prefference all im saying is that being logged in as root or with sudo -i is unsafe
[10:34] <gnomefreak> for long periods of time
[10:34] <j2daosh> no no no... hell no... lol im using the account that cant seem to get root previes
[10:35] <pashaw> j2daosh,   SSH should always block root logging in    in any remote setup
[10:35] <zsofici> a 3d world map for linux,like google earth
[10:35] <zsofici> idea?
[10:35] <pashaw> j2daosh,    good practice anyway
[10:35] <FlannelKing> j2daosh, youre probably not in the sudoers
[10:35] <sethk> Edgan, A properly configured sudoers makes things better, not worse.
[10:35] <j2daosh> i dont know how to do that...
[10:35] <j2daosh> no im not in the sudoers... ::shrugs:: i think
[10:35] <pashaw> j2daosh,  follow my lead here    type groups    admin not listed right?
[10:36] <j2daosh> thats what the error said anyway
[10:36] <j2daosh> nope
[10:36] <j2daosh> but im on the account that is messed up remember
[10:36] <pashaw> j2 youll have to use su roots pasword
[10:36] <Edgan> sethk: I have yet to see a good convenient way to use sudo that doesn't make it just like su
[10:36] <j2daosh> so get into su then?
[10:36] <sethk> Edgan, that's simply untrue.  Restricting the applications available to non-root users is definitely of benefit
[10:37] <brasko> Is there any reason to use sudo on a machine that only a single user operates on?
[10:37] <jmw70> Can Someone tell me where to look for printer drivers?
[10:37] <pashaw> j2daosh,    omg     wait      your remote  like  not home?   and trying to setup samba  that makes no sense
[10:37] <FlannelKing> yes brasko, security.
[10:37] <gnomefreak> brasko,  yes
[10:37] <cyphase> !war
[10:37] <ubotu> cyphase: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:37] <cyphase> hmm
[10:37] <cyphase> lol
[10:37] <Edgan> sethk: Well if you are talking sudo with helpers in a graphical environment yeah, but I generally don't admin in a graphical environment.
[10:37] <gnomefreak> lol cyphase
[10:37] <gnomefreak> !flame
[10:37] <ubotu> gnomefreak: What?
[10:37] <j2daosh> lol yeah...
[10:37] <pashaw> j2daosh,   if you need to pull a file from home  use scp
[10:38] <cyphase> !troll
[10:38] <ubotu> cyphase: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:38] <sethk> Edgan, I have no need for a graphical environment
[10:38] <cyphase> !fight
[10:38] <ubotu> cyphase: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:38] <cyphase> nvm
[10:38] <epp> my computer is looking for java here /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-<IP_ADDRESS> but its really in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun. what should i do to fix it?
[10:38] <j2daosh> no i dont need any specific file right now i just figured since i had a minute i would set it up and save myself some time at home... i dont quite understand the whole samba thing even though you would think i would because i had it working on my knoppix ...
[10:38] <pashaw> j2daosh,   using samba like your hoping   would normally be setup  with VPN first to log into the home network then use samba
[10:39] <gnomefreak> epp,  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:39] <epp> thx gnome
[10:39] <gnomefreak> than choose the 1.5 one epp and it should look for 1.5
[10:39] <gnomefreak> epp yw
[10:39] <epp> gnomefreak! thank you soo much!
[10:39] <pashaw> j2daosh,  your going to drive me to drinking
[10:39] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:40] <epp> pashaw, and hes an alcoholic, haha jk
[10:40] <j2daosh> haha im sorry pashaw... thats not what i want... cuz if your drunk how you gonna answer all my dumb questions lol
[10:40] <gnomefreak> epp,  java --version will output the version ubuntu is using
[10:40] <epp> gnomefreak, yeah... it works now
[10:40] <richardtallent> I have another laptop with a CD drive, I can put the old laptop drive in it, boot to the Ubuntu install CD, but what action would I take from that point so the resulting installation could then be booted on the old laptop? I'm assuming the install CD does all sorts of device detection, etc., and the laptops are *very* different (old Dell, new Toshiba).
[10:40] <pashaw> j2daosh,   samba is easy to setup but  with you miles away  we cant test it very well  til you get home
[10:40] <zsofici> gnomefreak: can you help me please
[10:41] <j2daosh> ahh... yesh that might be alittle of an issue
[10:41] <gnomefreak> zsofici, if you ask the room for help you might get better help but no noone can help you without knowing of any issue
[10:41] <MasterWammy> anyone have a good tutorial/info about compiling a kernel
[10:41] <epp> gnomefreak, is there a package that has all the c++ libraries i would ever need?
[10:41] <brasko> I'm asking, if I'm the only user of a machine, and I have root password, and a normal account, would you expect me to still use sudo?
[10:41] <MasterWammy> i compiled my own last night but it wont boot, lol
[10:41] <j2daosh> ok what if i have folders shared out on the windows box... would i be able to access them once i get samba set up on here?
[10:41] <Mabus06> How do I get my keyboard back to american
[10:42] <zsofici> gnomefreak: I need something like GOOGLE EARTH FOR UBUNTU
[10:42] <j2daosh> or am i gonna have to rdp to the win box from her?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> epp, they should come with the ide maybe a few more in synaptic
[10:42] <pashaw> j2daosh,  no   networks not connected  and ssh doesnt work that way
[10:42] <nalioth> zsofici: there is not google earth for ubuntu
[10:42] <chalcedony> Error Scanning folders in IMAP server
[10:42] <pashaw> j2daosh,  youd need to VPN the networks to use samba
[10:42] <epp> i dunno... it needs all these winsock libs and stuff...
[10:42] <gnomefreak> zsofici, you dont need to yell
[10:42] <sethk> richardtallent, you would probably be able to boot, but of course the network and other settings wouldn't be right
[10:42] <chalcedony> does anyone know Evolution mail on ubuntu?
[10:42] <epp> zsofici, tried wine emulation?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> and no im not sure of a map program for ubuntu other than a map of the stars
[10:43] <j2daosh> really? i cant just simple file share the suckers like with xp? i have to set up a vpn on both ends... do the wins thing and all that?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> i know evolution is too close to outlook for me
[10:43] <pashaw> j2daosh,   from home and work   youd need a secure link  like VPN to join the networks  to use smb
[10:44] <sethk> j2daosh, with samba you'll be able to access exactly what you could access with a windows box
[10:44] <gnomefreak> !wine
[10:44] <j2daosh> or with an rdp connection?
[10:44] <chalcedony> gnomefreak: ty
[10:44] <pashaw> sethk,   no any clever ways of using smb over the net between his home and work
[10:44] <sethk> j2daosh, if you don't need a vpn to use windows, you won't need it with linux either
[10:44] <chalcedony> my husband was using thunderbird.. i don't know what's up with Evolution, yet.
[10:44] <richardtallent> sethk: network settings being wrong is ok, but how do I force it to go back through the setup process? Comfy with command line once I get there.
[10:45] <sethk> pashaw, he was saying that he can't do it simply as with windows.  I'm pointing out that if he can do it simply with windows, he can do the same thing with samba
[10:45] <epp> gnomefreak... but kdevelop wont find the new set path of javasdk? it still looks in the original.
[10:45] <j2daosh> no i dont need a vpn... i normally just set the rdp before i come to work...
[10:45] <gnomefreak> chalcedony, thunderbird breaks less than evolution
[10:45] <pashaw> sethk,   yeah just wanted to be sure you knew what he was asking to do  :)
[10:45] <j2daosh> but then i got the ssh working on my linux box and wanted to use it because it doesn't use as much bandwidth and i hear it is more secure
[10:45] <Stork> what the hell
[10:45] <sethk> richardtallent, I'd have to check but it is definitely possible.  You may have to issue separate commands to configurre each thing (the network, the sound, etc.)
[10:45] <Ricker> Hey everyone.  I know this is probably a loaded question that gets asked probably too many times.  But I would like some first-hand reasons as to why you personally like Ubuntu better than the other distros... any input?
[10:45] <pashaw> j2daosh,   yeah you rdp into your xp box  right
[10:45] <gnomefreak> epp, im not sure write now im in dapper i dont have kde installed in dapper only breezy
[10:45] <Stork> gnomebaker can't formwar my dvd+rw
[10:46] <j2daosh> yep
[10:46] <epp> hmm.
[10:46] <pashaw> j2daosh, in that case you can use VNC to linux by default or   install terminal server and use rdp to linux
[10:46] <nalioth> Stork: use k3b
[10:46] <epp> anyone know how to set compiler paths in kdevelop?
[10:46] <Mabus06> How do I get my keyboard back to american
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Ricker,  you need to find one you like and o with that one ive tried over 10 distros before i went back to ubuntu
[10:46] <Stork> nalioth, it's for KDE isn't it?
[10:46] <nalioth> epp: have you been to the kdevelop forums? or asked in #kubuntu ?
[10:46] <chalcedony> gnomefreak: can you think of ANY advantages to Evolution over Thunderbird?
[10:46] <j2daosh> but will i be able to set up a permenant share on both my linux and xp boxes?
[10:47] <nalioth> Stork: it will run just fine for you
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Stork, can be ran in gnome
[10:47] <j2daosh> i plan on doing quite a bit of backups to my linux box once i smack the 350 gig harddrive in it
[10:47] <Ricker> gnomefreak: wow. What made you decide ubuntu was more to your liking and therefore made you go back to it?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> chalcedony, no i cant but maybe someone else in here could i just perfer anything but evolution sorry
[10:47] <mike-e> MPD system service not installed
[10:47] <mike-e> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/mpd exists during rc.d purge (continuing)
[10:47] <mike-e> how do i get mpd to install as a service
[10:47] <pashaw> j2daosh,   those are remote control protocols  you ned to join the domians to use smb       but you could alsways scp files off the linux box
[10:47] <j2daosh> if i was just moving one or 2 files rdp would be fine...
[10:47] <chalcedony> gnomefreak: ty i use MUTT ;)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Ricker,  yes after playing with slackware suse gentoo FC1-4 and so on
[10:48] <j2daosh> join the domains you say..... and to do that i have to setup the vpn between them eh?
[10:48] <pashaw> j2daosh,   now you got it
[10:48] <j2daosh> and i dont wanna just use ssh because?
[10:48] <j2daosh> well nevermind
[10:49] <pashaw> j2daosh,  how will you ssh files off the windows box?
[10:49] <sethk> j2daosh, I don't think anyone said not to use ssh
[10:49] <j2daosh> ssh wont do that kind of connection and i would have to constantly load cygwin on the windows box to do it
[10:49] <sethk> pashaw, I ssh files from my windows boxes every day
[10:49] <chalcedony> ok i think what my husband is telling me is that he is trying to write to me and his Ubuntu is giving him all thes other mail clients. He doesn't know why ..
[10:49] <pashaw> j2daosh,  there are programs you could use i guess i always use VPNs tho
[10:49] <rikai> anyone know waht ports have to be forwarded for gnomemeeting/netmeeting to work?
[10:49] <pashaw> sethk,   im a slow typer   read my post  :P
[10:49] <sethk> pashaw, install the cygwin toolkit in windows.  gives you both an ssh client and server
[10:49] <gnomefreak> since theres no ssh for windows i would say very hard but hell i dont have a clue
[10:49] <mike-e> how do i find out what mixer i'm using
[10:49] <Ricker> gnomefreak:  but why did you go back to ubuntu?  I have fedora core, suse, mandriva and ubuntu installed.  mostly messing around in ubuntu but I don't get why one is more comfortable for a user than another... probably because linux is so new to me.  any specifics on what makes ubuntu a good fit for you?
[10:49] <j2daosh> well vpns make sense because they will always be connected and i wont have to have constantly load a program to do it
[10:50] <mike-e> yes except it always starts at number one
[10:50] <mike-e> how do i find out what mixer i'm using
[10:50] <pashaw> sethk,   thx i know  but  thats not my preferred way   thx tho
[10:50] <sethk> pashaw, that's ok, but the point is it is not only possible but quite easy
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Ricker, ubuntu is released every 6 months for starters
[10:50] <pashaw> sethk,   perhaps you could help j2daosh  with this then
[10:51] <Ricker> gnomefreak: ok I like that... any thing other reasons of the top of your head?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> so its pretty much always newest packages and i love using sudo instead of su
[10:51] <j2daosh> well connected as long as the computer is on... but as far as security goes with that... wouldn't it be more secure to set up a reverse ssh tunnel instead of a vpn? im not familiar too much with vpn so i dont know the security strengths associated with it
[10:51] <sethk> gnomefreak, sudo is available on all flavors of linux and UNIX
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Ricker, people in #ubuntu are alot more helpful than #anywhere else
[10:51] <mike-e> how do i find out what mixer i'm using
[10:51] <gnomefreak> sethk,  i know
[10:51] <gnomefreak> i just added that in
[10:52] <sethk> gnomefreak, then it is not a reason to use (or not use) ubuntu
[10:52] <pashaw> j2daosh,   reverse tunnels are a way or sneaking past a firewall   VPNs are the preferred way to link networks
[10:52] <Polly_Morf> I have an error in kdevelop (yes i know i should have used #kubuntu, but its dead). "Terminal cant open any PTY. Probably they're misconfigured. Must have RW access". How do I set RW access?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> alsa mostr likely mike-e
[10:52] <Ricker> gnomefreak:  that I'm finding to be very true.  Tons of people in the linux world that I've come across that can be quite arrogant..but this #ubuntu channel is very cool and friendly
[10:52] <j2daosh> ok... well then vpn it is... now how do i do that pashaw?
[10:52] <MoonRanger> whats the command to install XFCE
[10:52] <j2daosh> j/p... i think i can manage that one lol
[10:52] <Polly_Morf> apt-get install xfce?
[10:52] <pashaw> j2daosh,   but im talking company/business methods  with  personal stuff you can use just about anything
[10:52] <MoonRanger> cool thanks
[10:52] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:53] <sethk> Polly_Morf, I doubt that the error is really caused by that
[10:53] <richardtallent> sethk: thanks, about to boot the install image on the newer laptop, will check back after installation is complete. Don't care much about sound, just need to activate PCMCIA wireless adapter (or USB NIC) and display driver on the old laptop. Goal is just to get something that has FF 1.5, OO 2.0, and GAIM, anything else is gravy.
[10:53] <Polly_Morf> sethk: It sounds a bit hinky, doesnt it? :P
[10:53] <j2daosh> besides... i dont want to drive you to drinking... cuz then when i forget about not messing with root and chmod another /usr directory i will need you around to scold me :)
[10:53] <Ricker> gnomefreak: what is SU? is that where you login as root on the other distros? or is it something else?  I know that sudo is "super-user do" but don't know su
[10:53] <sethk> Polly_Morf, it's easy enough to check, just do sudo kdevelop, see if it goes away
[10:53] <pashaw> j2daosh,   thats right you did that  huh
[10:54] <j2daosh> yeah that was me... but sssshhh... no one else knows about that
[10:54] <sethk> Ricker, sudo is not super user do.   it is "set user and do"
[10:54] <sethk> Ricker, the user is root by default, which is the same as for su, set user
[10:54] <sethk> Ricker, you can su or sudo to any user
[10:54] <Ricker> sethk: oops. cool.  thanks for correction
[10:54] <gnomefreak> su=super user its root in most distros by default in ubuntu sudo is default
[10:54] <jhenn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdeaPool <-- i can't log into this
[10:54] <Polly_Morf> sethk. Just figured that out by myself...
[10:54] <sethk> Ricker, sudo is a way to give users root access to some, but not all, resources
[10:54] <mrtanooki> i've always disliked the su being either superuser or switch user
[10:54] <sethk> Ricker, and programs.
[10:54] <Polly_Morf> sethk: works fine in root
[10:54] <Ricker> I see
[10:54] <sethk> Ricker, it is available in all varieties of linux and UNIX
[10:55] <sethk> Polly_Morf, hmm, maybe the message is smarter than I thought.  :)
[10:55] <sethk> Polly_Morf, the thing is, installing kubuntu is not going to change the privileges for the ptty's
[10:55] <pashaw> j2daosh,  i recommen you learn about samba first   practice at home,   then SSH/SCP to and from work(would be fun)  then worry about VPN  thats alot to learn
[10:55] <mike-e> exit
[10:55] <j2daosh> ok... well i think i have gained quite a bit of valuable knowledge... thank you again for your time pashaw and everyone else that helped me. dont go too far though because when i get home in 3 hours im getting back online and im sure i will have more questions
[10:56] <gnomefreak> jhenn,  what does it say?
[10:56] <sethk> Ricker, the only thing different about ubuntu is that with the default, but _not_ expert, install procedure, the root password is not set and you have to set it separately if you want to log in as root
[10:56] <j2daosh> well i thought you said i needed to do vpn in order to setup samba with max sexurity?
[10:56] <jhenn> gnomefreak: wrong password and username
[10:56] <sethk> Ricker, the difference between logging in as root and doing su is just whether or not you are already logged in.
[10:56] <jhenn> gnomefreak: i just setup an account though
[10:56] <kbrooks> lol
[10:56] <Polly_Morf> sethk: Made a "reset" of kdevelop... removed all the configuration files :P
[10:56] <pashaw> j2daosh,   yes thats your long term goal     right now  lets stick to the simple stuff
[10:56] <sethk> Ricker, the reason for having that is that on many machines root is disabled as a _remote_ login for security reason.
[10:56] <Polly_Morf> always works
[10:56] <Polly_Morf> !
[10:56] <ubotu> Polly_Morf: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:56] <gnomefreak> jhenn, check the email you used yet?
[10:56] <sethk> Ricker, so, if root cannot log in remotely, then sudo or su is the only way to get to be root
[10:56] <j2daosh> ok... ill do that then :) thank you for your help again pashaw
[10:57] <Polly_Morf> ubotu: huh?
[10:57] <ubotu> !find test
[10:57] <Ricker> sethk: are you pretty experienced with the CLI/bash?
[10:57] <pashaw> kbrooks,   i was here when they called you a cow
[10:58] <sethk> Ricker, yes, although I prefer zsh to bash, but that's a detail
[10:58] <jhenn> gnomefreak: oh use your email to login... i was using username
[10:59] <Ricker> sethk:  I want to do a server only install so that I can learn more of what's under the hood with linux, and I don't like how slow things get with the GUI's loaded....  have you ever done a server only install? and is it tough to get things like apache, samba, etc. installed.  I've never used an email client from a CLI and haven't the slightest clue about that either.
[11:00] <sethk> Ricker, I've done the server install several times.  The install itself, of course, is perfectly trivial
[11:00] <sethk> Ricker, I've never configured apache except CLI, so I can't say whether it's hardware than a gui configure, but it is certainly manageable
[11:01] <Ricker> sethk: I gathered that as I actually did it once by mistake when I was first loading distros...but I never did anything after that as I reformatted and did a install with a gui
[11:01] <odat> anyone know how to create a launcher for americas army in ubuntu
[11:01] <odat> ?
[11:01] <sethk> Ricker, as for email, I used the standard unix mail CLI mail client for years.  It's perfectly easy, although of course it isn't going to integrate graphics and such
[11:01] <jhenn> gnomefreak: okay i logged in with email but now its taking me to user preferences and i fill out everything and it is saying "passwords don't match" at the top.
[11:01] <Dashiva> hey anybody know how to change the browser gaim calls when you open new mail from it
[11:01] <sethk> Ricker, in most cases the default configuration for apache is quite close to what you need, and all you need to do is tweak a few things in the configuration files.
[11:01] <Ricker> sethk: so do you use GUI's such as gnome/kde very much?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> jhenn, im not sure i dont use that
[11:02] <sethk> Ricker, sure, I use them when it makes sense
[11:02] <Ricker> sethk: such as when?
[11:02] <Sepheebear> Dashiva: that's in the preferred applications capplet
[11:02] <sethk> Ricker, I like multi-windows editing while I'm writing programs
[11:02] <sethk> Ricker, I like to run the program I'm writing in a window and have the source code for it in other windows
[11:02] <Dashiva> thx
[11:02] <sethk> Ricker, GUIs are great things, where you need a user interface.  A server, of course, has a different purpose entirely
[11:02] <Ricker> sethk: cool.  what do your develop in? java?
[11:03] <jhenn> gnomefreak: its been a pain so far so consider yourself lucky
[11:03] <twysted> ricker this isnt RHEL we dont need a gui to bog down the server ;)
[11:03] <odat> anyone know how to create a launcher for americas army in ubuntu
[11:03] <sethk> Ricker, the thing to remember is, that with UNIX & Co., you can do everything with a slave GUI that you can do with a GUI on the same box.
[11:03] <gnomefreak> lol jhenn
[11:03] <jhenn> gnomefreak: its sad because i had some good recommendations to improve ubuntu
[11:03] <sethk> Ricker, At the moment I'm porting an operating system so I'm doing c and c++.  I've done java, although I'm not terribly fond of it.
[11:03] <nilsL>  my cd-drive is not working to play audio-cd's in xubuntu. any
[11:03] <nilsL>                clues?
[11:03] <Sepheebear> what's american army?
[11:04] <FlannelKing> Its a game
[11:04] <Ricker> sethk: wow. fun stuff.  now, what did you mean by a slave gui? you lost me there
[11:04] <Sturgeon> An institution devoted to saving the world from the oppression of the evil
[11:04] <gnomefreak> java=slow and heavy but yet i start classes for java in jan :(
[11:04] <wizardjames> how do i get xmms to read flac music?
[11:04] <Sturgeon> Or so they say?
[11:04] <wizardjames> i tryed xmms-flac  but it doesnt seam to to work
[11:04] <Sepheebear> oh, in that case it's just an app. rightclick on the desktop and create a launcher for it
[11:04] <IRCMonkey> hey, i'm downloading ubuntu..
[11:05] <gnomefreak> congrats
[11:05] <sethk> Ricker, I have two servers running here, one doing primarily email and the other acting as a web server.  Then I have my own machine.  I can set the DISPLAY variable on the web server, run the GUI confguration program, and send the display to my machine.  Not having the GUI on the web server does _not_ mean I can't use GUI configuration programs.
[11:05] <IRCMonkey> yeah.. and the file is really large 600 mb, and it's an .iso when it's done downloading what do i do next?
[11:05] <sethk> Ricker, X windows uses a proper client/server architecture, removing the link between the location of the program and the location of the display
[11:05] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey, burn it to cd
[11:05] <odat> anyone know how to create a launcher for americas army in ubuntu
[11:06] <sethk> Ricker, unlike a certain other windowing system we all know about  :)
[11:06] <Ricker> sethk: man so many options with unix
[11:06] <FlannelKing> IRCMonkey, burn the ISO (which means extracting it, in the burner program)
[11:06] <sethk> Ricker, indeed.  More power, and with it more complexity.
[11:06] <Sepheebear> odat rightclick on the desktop and create a launcher for it
[11:07] <odat> Sepheebear, i can't figure out what the command to launch it sis
[11:07] <Ricker> sethk: yes I'm definately seeing that as well. but it's making computers fun again.  I used to love dinking around in Dos.  of course the CLI in linux is much more powerful than dos is to put it lightly
[11:07] <IRCMonkey> i hope i am to 5.10? i got it from here http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/
[11:07] <gnomefreak> odat, whatever the command to run it in terminal is
[11:07] <Sepheebear> odat: where does american army install to?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> normally name of program
[11:07] <sethk> Ricker, true.  The first thing I do with a windows box is install cygwin, which gives me the bash and zsh shells, among other great stuff.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ok good IRCMonkey
[11:08] <sethk> Ricker, it's much better than the usual windows shell, but still not like being in unix
[11:08] <gnomefreak> 6.04 is so not ready yet
[11:08] <MarcN> man, a bunch of dapper updates this evening!
[11:08] <odat> armyop directory in the home folder
[11:08] <IRCMonkey> after i burn it to a cd, it will be easy to install?
[11:08] <Ricker> sethK: hmm cygwin, never heard of that one (not surprised as there is SO much about linux) I'll have to look that up.
[11:08] <gnomefreak> MarcN, it will be like that untill april
[11:08] <sethk> Ricker, cygwin is basically UNIX utilities that run in DOS (win32, to be correct)
[11:09] <IRCMonkey> do i need an extra hard drive to use? or can i use it with windows?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey, put cd in cd rom and boot from cdrom in bios
[11:09] <MarcN> gnomefreak: yeah, I've  been riding the bleeding edge for years.
[11:09] <Sepheebear> odat: there should be a README file in that armyop folder
[11:09] <sethk> Ricker, they are of course related to linux, because with cygwin, you have the same set of utilities for both operating systems.
[11:09] <IRCMonkey> ok
[11:09] <gnomefreak> lol MarcN isnt it funnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[11:09] <odat> Sepheebear, read it said nothing about launching it
[11:10] <gnomefreak> breezy was stable as of colony 3 i loved it
[11:10] <MarcN> gnomefreak: I'm linux user #6436.  Been around the block ;-)
[11:10] <Sepheebear> odat: how bout an INSTALL file?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> i found it to be stable than
[11:10] <Ricker> sethk: I see.  have you ever tried netbsd/freebsd.  before anyone gets on the warwagon.  I don't want to start one.  I was just curious if anyone here had used it and if what their feeling is.  people take os's and programming language like religions....
[11:10] <IRCMonkey> i have amd xp (emachines) and i downloaded PC (Intel x86) install CD will it run on it?
[11:10] <sethk> Ricker, the feel is very similar whether I'm in linux, freebsd, netbsd, or even solaris
[11:10] <cvt|nixmas> know how to play embedded quicktime files?
[11:11] <sethk> Ricker, especially at CLI, it is nearly identical
[11:11] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey, should
[11:11] <sethk> Ricker, you can be on freebsd, or on linux, and experience the identical user interface, both CLI and graphical.
[11:11] <odat> Sepheebear, i'll figure it out