[00:00] <budmang> us0r: there are other factors too figure in, one thing at a time.
[00:00] <budmang> You need the rule to repor tin iptables -L
[00:00] <blz> Psil0cybin, I think clamwin runs on linux, but it's mainly for the benefit of windows/mac users that may depend on services the linux box provides
[00:00] <blz> Psil0cybin, typically email
[00:00] <budmang> once you have it there, you move on to the next steps.
[00:00] <blz> Psil0cybin, or SMB
[00:00] <budmang> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[00:00] <usr13> kubunto: Maybe you could try and remove the backports repositories?
[00:00]  * kubunto has lost all paitence
[00:00] <Psil0cybin> okay
[00:00] <DrekAlots> Man. Everything is crashing on this machine. libproxy just took a dump on me as well.
[00:00] <Psil0cybin> just wanted to make sure :)
[00:00] <Psil0cybin> you guys rock
[00:00] <Psil0cybin> blz,
[00:00] <kubunto> usr13 what the hell does that mean
[00:01] <blz> Psil0cybin, the secret is not to run arbitrary, untrusted stuff =)
[00:01] <us0r> budmang: ok thanks, i'll run that real quick
[00:01] <Psil0cybin> blz, of course :) just wanted to make sure for web browsing
[00:01] <Psil0cybin> etc
[00:01] <Psil0cybin> im very keen about not installing untrusted software
[00:01] <Psil0cybin> just wanted to make sure i am doing everything in my power to stay safe ;)
[00:01] <blz> Psil0cybin, try this:  sudo apt-get install apparmor-profiles
[00:01] <failmaster> Psil0cybin, basically there is no self-copying malware designed for posix, which would have the ways to distribute itself via even presented bugs due to complexity of certain system environment that should meet some requirements to make it possible, however if you're running misconfigured system, you need to take care of rights and user privileges at first matter, while rkhunter is an additional instrument
[00:01] <Psil0cybin> better be safe than sorry
[00:01] <blz> Psil0cybin, that should help isolate your browser a bit
[00:02] <Wulframn> Psil0cybin: malware works in Wind
[00:02] <Psil0cybin> yea yea
[00:02] <Kratisto78> Shout out to everyone in this irc.  usr13 really helped me get started.  Wulf helped a ton.  Same with TJ fail everyone.  Thank you for helping me while I tried to not have a heart attack.  Seems like I have to press f12 on boot up each time though.  Weird
[00:02] <Wulframn> lol failmaster beat me to it
[00:02] <Psil0cybin> but if i dont have wine
[00:02] <Psil0cybin> then they shoudnt work
[00:02] <usr13> kubunto: In your Package Manager, you enabled "backports" right?  (Try dissabling it.)
[00:02] <blz> Psil0cybin, then see this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/160758/how-do-i-enable-the-apparmor-profile-for-firefox
[00:02] <Wulframn> Psil0cybin: even if you have wine no malware should be able to do anything of consequence to your system. =P
[00:02] <kubunto> usr13 i am unable to open the @#$%@#$ gui
[00:03] <failmaster> Psil0cybin, good news, you can try installing it on wine until you don't use anything but this malware from-under wine environment, not a good idea though LOL
[00:03] <usr13> Kratisto78: Glad you figured it out!  :)
[00:03] <Wulframn> Psil0cybin: I've been running linux systems since 2008 completed unprotected by all that jazz and have never *once* had an issue. Sometimes I intentionally download a virus and insert it into a windows VM just for giggles to remind myself what it was like.
[00:03] <TJ-> Kratisto78: There's 2 things: 1) the machine's BIOS/UEFI maybe is configured not to display a splash screen or progress report, and 2) when GRUB loads it is set to hide the menu and not show a timeout prompt. Both things you may want to change!
[00:03] <Psil0cybin> hahah Wulframn i love LINUX :)
[00:04] <Psil0cybin> hopefully soon one of these days ill know enough and it will be epic
[00:04] <Kratisto78> usr13:  Thank you for all your help.  This place is great.  Going to put i3wm on here some time soon.
[00:04] <Psil0cybin> im learning im learning
[00:04] <Psil0cybin> been windows free for a year now :)
[00:04] <Psil0cybin> i baked a cake the day i formatted my windows 7 box
[00:04] <Psil0cybin> and got Xubuntu
[00:04] <Psil0cybin> :0
[00:04] <Wulframn> Psil0cybin: we've all been there. No worries
[00:04] <failmaster> got old clean shv :D
[00:04] <us0r> budmang: ok, ran it and it printed a blank line like it should
[00:05] <us0r> budmang: check iptables -L again?
[00:05] <usr13> kubunto: I suppose you could remove [or comment out] the lines with "backports" in them, in your sources.list file and do:  sudo apt-get update
[00:05] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: I'm glad it worked out. I was worried. That was the first lenovo I'd heard of that had an issue like that (that wasn't caused by a user). I was wondering if I had to start questioning them. =P
[00:06] <kubunto> usr13 and where would that be?
[00:06] <usr13> kubunto: /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:06] <failmaster> well, looks like grub still needs /boot to be mounted, but maybe i'm missing something, so i don't get it why my setup stopped working and started to ask a custom 3rd party keyscript from me again
[00:06] <Kratisto78> TJ-:  I'll check it out.  It seems to skip grub now or I don't have to click anything.  Also the more I think about it I'm fine with the no brightness.  Now i'll always use the minimum amount to save battery and no one can use it without permission hahahaha.  Well unless they load up irc to figure out whats wrong
[00:07] <TJ-> Kratisto78: When it boots hold down Shift as soon as possible to get GRUB to show its boot menu
[00:07] <Kratisto78> tj-: okay good to know
[00:07] <kubunto> usr13: is htere a reason for simple applications to be slow as shit when the packages are screwed up?
[00:08] <Wulframn> !language | kubunto
[00:08] <failmaster> Kratisto78, wait wait so f12 popped the selection menu?
[00:08] <usr13> kubunto: I don't know.
[00:08] <blockshadow> hallo all
[00:08] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Thanks for the suggestion, gdisk did OK :) Now I can get on with recovering the corrupted Logical Volumes in one of the VGs
[00:09] <kubunto> usr13 how do i comment lines out in this?
[00:09] <Kratisto78> failmaster-: I didn't press fn so i hit brightness plus one and my screen bightness defaulted to 0 so my monitor turned on.
[00:09] <blockshadow> how fix wirless on gnacktrack R5??
[00:10] <usr13> kubunto: #
[00:10] <failmaster> Kratisto78, lol i'm glad for you, do you think that uk government structures blocked usage of lenovo production for a real reason or it's just all about cash?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> blockshadow, This is ubuntu-support. ;)
[00:10] <Wulframn> blockshadow: this room is for Ubuntu related questions. I do not believe this room supports gnacktrack
[00:11] <Wulframn> blockshadow: they have their own room at #gnacktrack
[00:11] <Kratisto78> failmaster-: No idea haha.  Thanks so much though
[00:11] <failmaster> blockshadow, it's a backtrack/kali distribution related questions, but at first we need to know what is broken in order to try to assist you in troubleshooting
[00:11] <usr13> kubunto:  #    at beginning of line(s)
[00:11] <blockshadow> ok tx wulframn :)
[00:11] <nukleuz> budmang: But do KVM work, even tho the server wont boot?
[00:11] <kubunto> usr13 no change
[00:13] <usr13> kubunto: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-to-fix-update-problems-mergelist-parsing-error
[00:14] <peteo> Is there a minimum size the flash drive has to be for a live distro?
[00:14] <Nullifi3d> ~650mb
[00:15] <usr13> peteo: One big enough to hold the ISO.  2G maybe?
[00:15] <Kratisto78> Peace out guys love you all
[00:16] <usr13> Kratisto78: Thanks for the vote of confidence :)
[00:16] <istiaque> What is alternative soft of Foxit pdf editor?
[00:16] <failmaster> could someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[00:16] <peteo> ok so 8g will be fine?
[00:17] <Wulframn> It's that moment...when you've been compiling packages in portage for more than an hour...that you look and realize that all of the longest-to-compile packages are all qt packages you didn't need and could've excluded with a simple USE flag...that you forgot to define. *sigh*
[00:17] <usr13> peteo: Oh yea.
[00:17] <Wulframn> peteo: That is more than enough
[00:17] <peteo> ok cool
[00:17] <DrekAlots> Does Ubuntu use UUID's the standard /dev/sdb method of mounting drives in fstab on boot?
[00:18] <us0r> budmang: g2g, thx for the help :)
[00:18] <usr13> DrekAlots: Yes
[00:18] <failmaster> DrekAlots, yep
[00:19] <DrekAlots> is one way preferred over the other?
[00:19] <Wulframn> DrekAlots: I am under the impression that UUIDs are considered superior to labels
[00:19] <usr13> DrekAlots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[00:20] <usr13> DrekAlots: uuids are better because they don't change
[00:20] <kubunto> usr13: the error did not change
[00:20] <DrekAlots> usr13: thanks.
[00:20] <DrekAlots> Wulframn: Thanks
[00:21] <Wulframn> DrekAlots: that was all usr13 =)
[00:21] <Wulframn> I'm just here to hang out and occassionally spam the room with musings. =P
[00:21] <DrekAlots> I'm used to labels coming from Gentoo for the past 5yrs.
[00:21]  * Wulframn is a Gentoo user, too
[00:21] <usr13> kubunto: Did you do:  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf    ?
[00:22] <kubunto> usr13 yes
[00:22] <DrekAlots> I enjoy Gentoo. If Ubuntu keeps pissing me off I may go back. lol
[00:22] <usr13> kubunto: After that, did you do:   sudo apt-get update   ?
[00:22] <Wulframn> DrekAlots: two different distros for two different people/jobs.
[00:22] <kubunto> usr13 yes
[00:22] <usr13> kubunto: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[00:23] <DrekAlots> Wulframn: Indeed. We use Ubuntu at work so I'm trying to get used to it by running it on my own machine. I took a stage4 of my gentoo install before going to ubuntu though. lol
[00:23] <ameri-dry> does any one know of a good channel for beginner devs looking to code for the ubuntu touch platform
[00:23] <kubunto> usr13, I cannot even do step one as this has broke my update manager
[00:24] <dr_willis> !touch | ameri-dry
[00:24] <DrekAlots> ok. I just clicked on a mounted parition and now I have no menu bars... no unity. wth. how can i restart unity?
[00:24] <failmaster> DrekAlots, the difference is that you can still build debian-based distros from source while you can't get those pre-compiled binaries as packages in gentoo or am i worng?
[00:24] <dr_willis> DrekAlots:  try alt-f2 'compiz --replace'
[00:24] <usr13> kubunto:  pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list  #And send resulting URL
[00:25] <Wulframn> failmaster: you can get binaries in gentoo; depends on what you're trying to do
[00:25] <DrekAlots> dr_willis: alt+f2 is not working.
[00:25] <failmaster> that's what i'm saying =)
[00:25] <ameri-dry> thank you drwillis
[00:25] <dr_willis> DrekAlots:  head to the console and restsrat the lightdm service, and that will restart x.. i guess.. or you could try some other ways to force compiz to restart.. easier to just log out/back in
[00:26] <budmang> nukleuz: yes, thats what KVM is for, you access it on a seperate IP/vlan/vpn etc..
[00:26] <budmang> IP KVM.
[00:27] <failmaster> guys, i need some backup on understanding this thing... it doesn't necessarily means that we have the device mounted on /boot during initrd stage? http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#prefix
[00:27] <nukleuz> Anyone that can explain to me how KVM works? Can i remote KVM to a server that wont boot? O.o Does the server need any software installed to get that working, or is the ┬½Virtual Machine Manager┬╗ on the client everything I need? Get's a notice that pkg ┬½libvirt-bin┬╗ and ┬½libvirtd┬╗ is missing, but I dont understand if that is on the client or the server?
[00:28] <usr13> kubunto: pastebin your sources.list file
[00:29] <kubunto> working on it
[00:29] <rjknight1> hello guys... may I ask how the ldap users become a sudoer on the ubuntu client?
[00:30] <jpds> rjknight1: Make them part of the sudo group?
[00:30] <kubunto> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com.5979320
[00:30] <rjknight1> @jpds : Yes
[00:30] <kubunto> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/5979320/
[00:31] <TJ-> nukleuz: I think you have your KVMs mixed up. In terms of remote-hands on servers, KVM == Keyboard Video Mouse, which is a way to access the hardware console remotely. KVM in virtualisation is the Linux Kernel Virtual Machine - something totally different.
[00:31] <usr13> kubunto: can't find the server at paste.ubuntu.com.5979320
[00:31] <kubunto> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/5979320/
[00:32] <DrekAlots> well, restarting lightdm crashed my machine.
[00:32] <TJ-> nukleuz: servers deployed in data-centres often have either KVM ethernet switches or use IPMI for out-of-band remote hardware console access
[00:33] <failmaster> why everything that affects cryptsetup reported as a bug becomes a "Shishlist" or a "Question" while it is clear that it's a bug
[00:33] <failmaster> whishlist*
[00:34] <nukleuz> TJ-: Ah, I sure did mix up! :O But how can i figure out if my server does have KVM? What software to use?
[00:34] <nukleuz> TJ-: I'm using SSH usuallt
[00:35] <TJ-> nukleuz: You'd need to ask your data-centre provider. If it's a virtual machine (VPS) then they'll usually have an out-of-band access to the VM's console.
[00:35] <nukleuz> TJ-: No, its not a VM.
[00:36] <TJ-> nukleuz: Dedicated box? I'd assume they'd have KVM access over the net for that
[00:40] <Coburn> Can Ubuntu be run on a non-PAE processor?
[00:40] <Coburn> I have a Pentium M Motion Computing LE1600 Tablet that doesn't support PAE
[00:40] <Coburn> therefore, it only sees 1.5GB out of 2GB of RAM
[00:40] <MoPac> Hello. In 13.10 or future Mir releases, are there plans for an engine to remember window placement that is more sophisticated than the current compiz plugin, or should I still be spending time trying to configure devilspie and devilspie-based programs?
[00:40] <failmaster> TJ-, i believe this guy experienced similar issue related to using key file for his swap partition https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163 and i've seen your report about custom keyscripts, why is that "whishlist" when it must work according to what said in cyptsetup references currently? (but mostly not defined clearly)
[00:41] <nukleuz> TJ-: yep :) Its dedicated, but isnt it strange that they didnt provide me that information when I signed up for it, if they have KVM or not?
[00:41] <TJ-> Coburn: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[00:42] <TJ-> nukleuz: It may be you have to pay for remote-hands support in this kind of case. It's something you should ask before getting into such a hosting contract, its a key requirement for many
[00:43] <zykotick9> Coburn: ahhhh, even non-PAE 32bit can see 3+GB RAM, is your 2GB perhaps shared with video?
[00:43] <TJ-> Coburn: I was about to say what zykotick9 said
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, You can do net installs besides the wiki's info, now called the alternative since 12.10.
[00:44] <kubunto> usr13 are you still here
[00:44] <peteo> trying to install ubuntu 12.04..2 LTS and it says that I need to define a root filesystem before I do the install. How do I create a root filesystem?
[00:44] <Coburn> well, if it heps
[00:44] <Coburn> helps*
[00:45] <Coburn> the chipset is i915
[00:45] <Coburn> it's old, I know
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> peteo, This a manual install / is the mount, are you making a separate home
[00:45] <kubunto> yay for no @#$!#$! help
[00:46] <Coburn> hmmm
[00:46] <kubunto> 2nd time nothing has improved happy days
[00:46] <Coburn> let me boot it up
[00:46] <peteo> what do you mean by that  a manual install / is the mount
[00:46] <Coburn> it has no battery to I need the AC jack plugged
[00:46] <dr_willis> !patience
[00:46] <kubunto> dr_willis, patience is gone
[00:47] <dr_willis> peteo:  / is the mountpoint for the main os
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> peteo, Are you using the something other option, that is a manual install. In that gui you are asked a mount it is / that is root.
[00:47] <peteo> I dont know
[00:47] <kubunto> 3rd time and i will be forced to nuke what I have
[00:47] <Coburn> Hmmm
[00:47] <Coburn> Weird
[00:47] <dr_willis>   root of the fs is called root = /
[00:48] <Coburn> It's only reporting 1536MB RAM
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> true dat
[00:48] <peteo> I did n show the sompthing other optoin it jst went to the screen that has the option to create a new partition table and some other things
[00:48] <kubunto> [ing usr13
[00:49] <failmaster> i have a question related to support politics in general, should i keep hope alive for getting support/attention to bug reports when they keep appear (i believe related to the issue i'm facing atm) since 2008 and pop-up in it's variations making it difficult to have one the same system configuration scenario? question appears after about a week since reviving rusty bug report and sitting on freenode and after 3 days of question being posted on askubuntu for
[00:49] <failmaster>  example
[00:49] <dr_willis> peteo:  you define a /  partition  and a swap partion  as a minimum    normally
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> peteo, That much misspelling is confusion, seems like a place to get this correct.
[00:49] <scathen^C> hey all, i am running an app that listens on a particular port (say 6969). What would eb right way to go about only allowing my home computers ip to access my server on that port, and ignore everything else? I have nginx installed, is that something you would use that for?
[00:49] <TJ-> Coburn: as zykotick9 said, maybe the rest is shared with the graphics chipset? Check /var/log/dmesg to see how memory is organised
[00:50] <Coburn> I don't know... I've gotta boot ubuntu on it first :P
[00:50] <peteo> curse my fat fingers!
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> ;) it happens
[00:50] <Coburn> actually, let me boot partedmagic onto it
[00:50] <Coburn> that way I can pop open a shell
[00:50] <Coburn> unless the RAM itself has issues...
[00:51]  * Coburn wonders where he put his liveUSB of PartedMagic
[00:51] <jrib> scathen^C: use iptables
[00:51] <peteo> it says it is starting the main partitioner
[00:51] <scathen^C> jrib: thanks
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> failmaster, Life is not exacting, and neither is support.
[00:55] <themhz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/331860/how-to-create-my-own-screenlet
[00:56] <peteo> when the installer goes to the Installation type headinf of the install menu it gives me a blank window that says "Device, Type, Mount Pint, Used Space" across the top and the window is blank,
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> peteo, You might take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin, it would answer a few questions I might have myself.
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | peteo
[00:58] <peteo> ok
[00:58] <Coburn> Downloading the netinstall image for Ubuntu
[00:59] <Coburn> will boot it up on the tablet and get a dmesg (hopefully)
[01:00] <zykotick9> Coburn: ahhh, you want a livecd - not a netinstall, if you want to do something besides install...
[01:01] <Coburn> well, on the netinstall, I can just alt+f2 to get myself a shell
[01:01] <Coburn> then punch in "dmesg | more"
[01:01] <zykotick9> Coburn: are you sure?  i'm not.
[01:01] <Coburn> Yeah, I've used it when I'm in a pickle with some systems
[01:01] <Coburn> :)
[01:02] <failmaster> it's like heroin, at first you get addicted, share the dose with your rookery mates, accepting and helping to get first shot for newbies and later you suddenly realize that you ruined your life being old drug-addicted retard lol
[01:02] <Coburn> .... and the tablet just boots windows
[01:02]  * Coburn stares at the tablet
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> failmaster, This is a family channel treat it as such.
[01:03] <peteo_> http://imagebin.org/267336 here it is
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, Gparted is in the menu, is this a W8 dual boot or was W8 ever on the computer?
[01:04] <peteo_> wilee-nilee, W8 has never been on this computer
[01:05] <Coburn> damn stupid fast boot windows >_>
[01:05] <Coburn> blocks my access to bios >_>
[01:05] <Bjond> Coburn: I heard about people going back to those Motions, hope that works out for you.
[01:05] <Coburn> Well, the fact I like about it is
[01:06] <Coburn> Pen!
[01:06] <Coburn> Precision Tocuh
[01:06] <Coburn> rather than "fat finger" press
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, So what your showing is the something other option a manual install nothing is showing, is this a new hard drive are there any partitions on it?
[01:06] <Coburn> I don't really care for multitouch, at least I can use the pen for paint artistic works (I can't draw but w/e)
[01:07] <peteo_> wilee-nilee, this is a new HD to the computer
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, Do you just want ubuntu on it?
[01:07] <peteo_> wilee-nilee, yes
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, Cool are you sure the hard drive has a partition table?
[01:08] <Coburn> OK!
[01:08] <Coburn> Ubuntu Installer
[01:08] <Coburn> Select a language
[01:08] <peteo_> wilee-nilee, I dont think so, don't know how to put on on either
[01:09]  * Coburn grabs keyboard
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, Close the installer and open gparted from the menu, you can make a partition table there. Then just run the install and choose the install at the gui before the one you are showing.
[01:10] <Coburn> okay folks
[01:10] <Coburn> Hmmm
[01:10] <Coburn> Odd, it says it's only picking up 1536MB Memory
[01:11] <Coburn> what line am I looking for to see how much the GPU is using?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> peteo, Here is the gparted manual. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-create-partition-table
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> msdos is what you want for a table peteo
[01:12] <peteo_> wilee-nilee, when I go to create a new partition I get "A new partition table cannot be created when there are active partitions.  Active partitions are those that are in use, such as a mounted file system, or enabled swap space. Use Partition menu options, such as unmount or swapoff, to deactivate all partitions on this device before creating a new partition table."
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, Take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it.
[01:13] <Coburn> peteo_: open terminal. sudo fdisk /dev/sdX where sdX is your hdd's name.
[01:13] <Coburn> then at the prompt, do 'o'
[01:13] <Coburn> make sure you get "building new disklabel"
[01:13] <Coburn> then 'w'
[01:14] <Coburn> exit
[01:14] <Coburn> that will blank the MBR
[01:14] <Coburn> HOWEVER, you will lose any partitions on that disk!
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, would you like to help this person?
[01:14] <peteo_> wilee=nilee, http://imagebin.org/267337
[01:14] <Coburn> OH
[01:14] <Coburn> peteo_:
[01:15] <Coburn> what is your computer? is it UEFI ready?
[01:15] <Coburn> Or is it just BIOS
[01:15] <peteo_> what?
[01:15] <Coburn> I have seen your issue
[01:15] <Coburn> The Ubuntu installer is thinking your USB stick is the first HDD
[01:15] <Coburn> you need to point it to the second HDD
[01:15] <Coburn> which would be /dev/sdb
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, THat is showing your usb, it happens at times that a HD and the usb get reversed, use the drop down top left to get to the hard drive, and do a screen shot if it.
[01:16] <Coburn> in the dropdown on the gparted window, do you have an entry for /dev/sdb ?
[01:16] <peteo_> http://imagebin.org/267338
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, You are interrupting things are fine without your help.
[01:16] <Coburn> My apologies
[01:17] <Coburn> I'll go back to installing Ubuntu
[01:17]  * Coburn spins around on his chair
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, Same thing, that is your usb, top right corner drop down choose the actual Hard drive, and take a screen shot should be sdb.
[01:18] <peteo_> wilee-nilee, there is no sdb
[01:18] <Coburn> odd
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, YOu have a HD in the computer right, if so you need to reseat it.
[01:19] <Coburn> ^
[01:19] <Coburn> that, or the cables aren't properly plugged in
[01:19] <Coburn> or something
[01:19] <peteo_> wilee-nilee, how do I reseat it?
[01:19] <Coburn> you'll have to open up the computer
[01:19] <Coburn> is this laptop or desktop?
[01:19] <peteo_> so it's an actual physical thing that I need to change?
[01:20] <peteo_> desktop
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> peteo_, Coburn seems to want to help you I will let you guys work this out.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Coburn, welcome to ignore
[01:20] <Coburn> peteo_: what's your PC's brand (make) and model?
[01:21] <peteo_> it is a dell opteplex GX260
[01:21] <Coburn> Ah, good 'ol dells
[01:21] <peteo> lovely arnt they
[01:21] <Coburn> Did you get a new hard disk installed in it?
[01:21] <peteo> I pu a new one in it, the other one was corruppt
[01:21] <Coburn> As in, take it into a store, and they fitted a new HDD into it?
[01:22] <Coburn> I see.
[01:22] <peteo> no I did it myself
[01:22] <Coburn> Right.
[01:22] <Coburn> Alright, so when you put it in, there's a chance that you might have not plugged the cables in 100%, which means that the computer makes bad contact with the device
[01:22] <Coburn> thus, causing the HDD to not appear.
[01:23] <peteo> ok I'll open it up now
[01:23] <Coburn> what you need to do is open up the PC and check your cables
[01:23] <peteo> ok can do
[01:23] <Coburn> just gently push them into their proper areas
[01:23] <peteo> it's shutting down now
[01:24] <Coburn> No problem
[01:24] <Coburn> Even a minor loose cable can be a headache
[01:24] <Coburn> I've had ones myself
[01:24] <Coburn> especially IDE cables... Those things are crap
[01:24] <TJ-> Depending on the disk type, could be a jumper setting issue
[01:25] <Coburn> assuming the DELL is running SATA, shouldn't matter, but if it's IDE, then yes. Valid point, TJ-
[01:25] <Coburn> :)
[01:25] <Coburn> I had a DELL Optiplex 740
[01:25] <Coburn> AMD box, rescued it from school dump
[01:25] <Coburn> Ran Windows/Nix fanasticly
[01:26] <kubunto> issue resolved
[01:26] <kubunto> good day everyone
[01:27] <peteo> ok trying again
[01:28] <failmaster> can make intel centrino wlan adapter running into ap mode? not ubuntu-related but still
[01:28] <failmaster> i*
[01:29] <TJ-> failmaster: that will depend on the driver, available firmwares, and/or hostapd
[01:29] <failmaster> got it
[01:29] <peteo> I will be bck in like 10-15 mins. (Have to take a shower now)
[01:32] <peteo> change that 15-20min
[01:43] <darkelfjuggalo> I have a few program files I am not permitted to make Changes to, but I need to in order to make the program work the way I want to. Can someone tell me how to do this?
[01:48] <benzrf> hey, I have a Radeon card
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> darkelfjuggalo, To get help here you need to tell the channel the details, the programs and your methods used and end goals
[01:48] <benzrf> the default driver doesn't support webgl, anybody know if fgrlx will?
[01:49] <daftykins> benzrf: one way to find out!
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> benzrf, no don't "one way to find out"
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> benzrf, google, cuz fglrx might just mess you up and screw you over
[01:50] <darkelfjuggalo> wilee-nilee, I am trying to save patterns and brush tips to gimp2.8 in the gimp chatroom i was asked if trying to save to /home/yourusername/.gimp-2.8 but the only folder I can find is /usr/share/.gimp-2.8/
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> darkelfjuggalo, "the channel"
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> benzrf, do not risk it, google if fglrx can do what you want before trying it
[01:51] <clj_newb_2345> can anyone point me at a guide for gettig mac keyboard to work with ubuntu 13.04 ?
[01:51] <darkelfjuggalo> I can only pull this folder up through a direct file search
[01:51] <clj_newb_2345> I get an error saying that bluez can not be --configured
[01:51] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: odd approach. more might be learnt in the process
[01:52] <darkelfjuggalo> ok channel...
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> daftykins, thing is, fglrx /can/ and /might/ mess up somebody's graphics. I've seen it happen to people ;O
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> just don't want benzrf risking it and it turns out it was all for not
[01:52] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: sure, here too
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> darkelfjuggalo, My guess would be in .config, just a guess though.
[01:53] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: fair enough. the warning is definitely wise *tips hat*
[01:53] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[01:54] <darkelfjuggalo> wilee-nilee i found it through computer...permissions say only root can use is, how would i go about inculding my personal login name to the owner?
[01:55] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Are you using gimp 2.8? It should have created its directory in your home directory ~/.gimp-2.8/ containing lots of sub-dirs and files too. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979508/
[01:56] <darkelfjuggalo> it created it i usr/share/ I cannot access it anywhere else
[01:58] <darkelfjuggalo> x
[01:58] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Did you install gimp 2.8 manually? Or run it as 'root' ?
[01:58] <darkelfjuggalo> manually
[01:59] <darkelfjuggalo> sudo is th closest to root i use... but i installed the .deb file for gimp so i didn't have to command line
[02:00] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Ahhhh! did you use "apt-get install gimp" or something like "dpkg -i gimp-2.8.deb" ?
[02:01] <quidnunc> How do I install virtualbox guest additions on 13.04?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, 13.04 the host or guest?
[02:02] <darkelfjuggalo> TJ-, I thought I installed it through a direct download, but I just double checked, Gimp.org directions are apt-get install gimp. I have to sudo or su to make apt-get work
[02:03] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: Both but host is 32-bit, guest is 64-bit
[02:03] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: I suspect you installed it directly, and missed off installing key packages used by Debian/Ubuntu
[02:03] <clj_newb_2345> is bluetooth broken on ubuntu?
[02:03] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: There are a bunch of "guest-additions" packages but I don't know if they should be installed on guest or host?
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, In the top panel of vbox is a dropdown for guest additions
[02:03] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: What does this tell you? "dpkg-query -l g'imp*'  "
[02:03] <clj_newb_2345> how do I even debug an error that syas "bluez failed to --configure"
[02:03] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: Is that the right thing to do on Ubuntu?
[02:03] <quidnunc> What are all the packages?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, Install in the guest, did you install dkms in the host?
[02:05] <darkelfjuggalo> i followed the instructions. I can run the program and use all of the features, but i cannot save to it additional patterns themes and such
[02:05] <Coburn> with netinst of Ubuntu, what packages does "Ubuntu touch" install? Do I need "Ubuntu Desktop" selected or will it install most of the desktop packages with touch ability?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> quidnunc, You will need to add the host user to the vbox group as well, you might try the #vbox channel to.
[02:06] <darkelfjuggalo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979546/
[02:07] <quidnunc> wilee-nilee: Okay, I will try #vbox.
[02:07] <peteo> Have to go will try new hd in morning
[02:08] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: That looks good; as I'd expect. The only thing I can think is that there are restrictive permissions on your home directory preventing gimp from creating it's own config dir
[02:08] <darkelfjuggalo> how do I fix this?
[02:09] <holstein> darkelfjuggalo: fix what?
[02:09] <darkelfjuggalo> i guess the proper question is How do I add my personal log-in to Root usergroup to by pass this problem in the future without having to log into root?
[02:09] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Find out the real problem first, don't guess. Check out the man-page "man gimp! and read the ENVIRONMENT and FILES sections carefully; they spell out how gimp figures out where its personal directory is. You might have an environment shell variable set to over-ride the default
[02:10] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: "man 1 gimp"
[02:11] <TALEL> I'm having trouble getting my phone bluetooth to sync with my ubuntu laptop, everytime I attempt to pair the devices it fails
[02:11] <holstein> darkelfjuggalo: you wouldnt do that
[02:11] <holstein> darkelfjuggalo: what is the goal?
[02:12] <thewhistlepig> hello
[02:12] <darkelfjuggalo> TJ-, i am in man 1 gimp, what next?
[02:12] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: At a terminal, start it with "gimp --verbose | tee /tmp/gimp.log" and then press Ctrl+C to kill it once it has loaded. Then read "/tmp/gimp.log" especially the first few lines, to see what it is doing to look for its user directory
[02:13] <holstein> darkelfjuggalo: i thought you downloaded a .deb for GIMP?
[02:13] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: page down in the manual to the ENVIRONMENT and FILES sections, they explain how it decides the user directory name and location.
[02:14] <TJ-> holstein: If so, that would explain the problem, because it sounds as if the installed gimp isn't configured correctly
[02:14] <holstein> darkelfjuggalo: if so, you ask the maintainer of the package you downloaded for support
[02:14] <darkelfjuggalo> holstein, i download a deb for everything i can, so i assumed i did for gimp, gimp download page is repository instructions for flavors
[02:14] <holstein> darkelfjuggalo: you shouldnt download a .deb for everything you can.. you should try the one in the repos, and move on if needed
[02:15] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Let's find out: what does this report? "apt-cache policy gimp"
[02:15] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:15] <darkelfjuggalo> TJ- 13.04
[02:16] <darkelfjuggalo> im trying to keep up with instructions but the chat log is pushing everything off my screen too fast
[02:16] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: OK, so if you install from the Ubuntu archive there's no reason for it to be broken. You might try removing and reinstalling, to be sure. That'd be "sudo apt-get --purge remove gimp gimp-data" then "sudo apt-get install gimp"
[02:17] <p0rk> i am mounting an nfs share from my NAS to my security camera server but the contents of a different nfs share are showing up inside
[02:17] <p0rk> wtf?
[02:18] <holstein> p0rk: is the NAS running ubuntu?
[02:18] <p0rk> its running debian
[02:18] <p0rk> the camera server is running ubuntu
[02:18] <holstein> p0rk: is the camera running ubuntu?
[02:19] <p0rk> the camera server is running ubuntu
[02:19] <p0rk> can i only have one NFS export?
[02:20] <darkelfjuggalo> TJ- you asked for this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979570/
[02:20] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo:  :D no... I can read it here... I wanted *you* to read those sections to understand how GIMP figures out its user directory name and location
[02:21] <darkelfjuggalo> oh, i'm lost on what it is meaning
[02:21] <holstein> darkelfjuggalo: where did you get this .deb?
[02:22] <renzo> hi all...quick question! Ubuntu 13.04 doesn't work at all in my laptop. What would you install: 12.10 or 12.04 because it's LTS? I know both work well on my hardware! Thanks for your replies :)
[02:22] <TJ-> holstein: According to dpkg-query -l, the correct Ubuntu versions are installed
[02:22] <darkelfjuggalo> holstein, moving away from the .deb for gimp... gimp.org does not offer it...only instructions to  'apt-get install gimp'
[02:22] <holstein> renzo: 12.04 is what i would use
[02:23] <p0rk> um. so why did you ask if it was ubuntu only to ignore me?
[02:24] <renzo> @holstein Thanks for your opinion. Do you think i'd be missing any feature in contrast to 12.10?
[02:25] <Ari-Yang> renzo, I use 12.10
[02:25] <Ari-Yang> ** OS: Linux 3.10.0-996-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10 **
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> p0rk, You mentioned debian, this is ubuntu support that would be asked by most helpers.
[02:26] <p0rk> i figured
[02:26] <p0rk> rather than help, find a reason not to
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | p0rk
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> there are channel technical rules
[02:27] <renzo> Ari-Yang: i'm currently using 12.10 too, but since i was about to reinstall I want to decide if keeping 12.10 or switching to 12.04
[02:28] <daftykins> LTS has its' benefits
[02:30] <leethacker> Hi!
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> renzo, 12.04 has 5 years support 12.10 is the same except for a few app having a later version maybe, with a 3rd of the support time.
[02:31] <leethacker> Can I has help plz?
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> !root
[02:31] <renzo> thanks daftykins and wilee-nilee, i think i got the answer i needed! :)
[02:32] <leethacker> is ubuntoo the same as linux? :)
[02:32] <Yvain_> yes
[02:35] <leethacker> is linux the same as windoes?
[02:36] <leethacker> where is the c:\ drive pls?
[02:36] <debsan> no c:\ drive in linux
[02:37] <debsan> it's /
[02:37] <leethacker> oh ok my b so where is c:/?
[02:37] <Skepchurn> http://mrkinnikumike.blogspot.com/
[02:37] <rjknight1> how about drive D:\ E:\ F:\
[02:37] <rjknight1> ?
[02:38] <leethacker> i dont need those
[02:38] <Yvain_> Trolololololl
[02:42] <failmaster> could someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[02:43] <michaelwarbrick> hi.. how can i get sound working on my desktop
[02:43] <michaelwarbrick> ubuntu 12.04
[02:43] <Wulframn> !alsa
[02:43] <michaelwarbrick> i'm getting no sound, even though it's not muted or anything
[02:44] <michaelwarbrick> haha
[02:44] <michaelwarbrick> you'll never guess what the problem was
[02:44] <michaelwarbrick> .... plugged in headphones into wrong computer
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> michaelwarbrick, Now do 3 homer simpson Doh's. ;)
[02:45] <icelite> doh doh fuckin doh
[02:45] <icelite> lol
[02:45] <icelite> :D
[02:46] <FloodBot1> icelite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <icelite> sorry FloodBot
[02:46] <Wulframn> !language
[02:46] <h00k> icelite: also mind the language
[02:46] <icelite> Sorry again
[02:46] <icelite> Im new here
[02:46] <Wulframn> You're fine, just mind yourself. =P
[02:47] <scathen^C> if people were truly family friendly, they would teach their kids that having taboo words is nonsense.
[02:47] <Wulframn> scathen, it's more complicated than that
[02:48] <scathen^C> i'm sorry i didn't want to get into a debate (sometimes my hands just type what i'm thinking). but i am curious, as to how it's more complicated.
[02:48] <failmaster> agreed with taboo words statement ^
[02:49] <Wulframn> I'm on my phone, but basically humans need taboo words/topics
[02:49] <zq> what's with dbus showing up in the dependencies of nearly every single recent gui package?
[02:49] <zq> is there a way around this?
[02:50] <Wulframn> zq, don't use a gui! =P
[02:50] <zq> Wulframn: i already don't, but for some things a gui could save lots of time
[02:50] <Wulframn> I was just joking
[02:50] <zq> yeah, but mine was a sincere question
[02:51] <failmaster> why do u care about dbus or additional packages stuff? i admit maybe it shouldn't be like that, but it would be a real problem if the space on / was limited
[02:51] <TJ-> zq: It is so that menu structures can be passed acros DBus, regardless of the toolkit (GTK/QT/etc) in use
[02:51] <zq> TJ-: would you mind expanding on that, or perhaps have a link to share?
[02:51] <Wulframn> failmaster, that's half the point of Linux
[02:52] <Wulframn> tweaking, making the system smaller and more efficient
[02:52] <zq> failmaster: because it's an extra process that just sits there
[02:52] <TJ-> zq: There was a discussion on ubuntu-devel mailing list some time ago about it, can't remember all the ins and outs now
[02:52] <failmaster> Wulframn, i'm from dark ages of slackware
[02:52] <daftykins> and not actually getting around to doing stuff ;)
[02:52] <failmaster> so i kno
[02:52] <zq> for something like, say, wicd, it's understandable (but still less than efficient)
[02:57] <TJ-> zq: I found this... took some digging. https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/common-libraries/
[02:58] <zq> TJ-: thanks, having a look
[02:58] <Styles> Is it possible to have a raid 5 that would work on windows & ubuntu without a hardware raid
[03:00] <L-sama> anybody still using sorcerer?
[03:02] <michaelwarbrick> wilee-nilee: lol.. problem with having 3 computers on the one desk with 5 monitors haha
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:05] <zq> so unity is the one dragging in all these dbus dependencies
[03:05] <zq> because the guis have to be unity-compliant
[03:05] <zq> i'm not even using unity
[03:05] <zq> ugh
[03:06] <zq> choices: 1. debian sarge; 2. dpkg-buildpackage; 3. arch; 4. stop bitching, zq
[03:07] <Yvain_> Yeah well Canonical might as well be Google
[03:07] <Yvain_> It's good your not using Uni-track
[03:07] <zq> :(
[03:08] <zq> well judging from the trajectory of the fundraising efforts for the edge, canonical is still in the wannabe stage
[03:08] <Yvain_> Wannabe, but they are still exploiting people like Google
[03:09] <Yvain_> Zq, if your problem is unity, and you like Ubuntu, why not use Xubuntu, or a non-unity distro?
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> Yvain_, In your own words "Trolololololl"
[03:10] <Yvain_> Xubuntu won't drag all the baggage Unity does
[03:10] <zq> Yvain_: that won't work because the dbus dependencies live at a per-package granularity
[03:10] <TJ-> zq: I wouldn't worry, it's all change again "In general, the big migration here is away from DBusMenu (which was Ubuntu-only) to GMenu which is in GLib." 2013-07-24
[03:11] <zq> it's pretty much checkmate
[03:12] <zq> short of dpkg-buildpackaging your own mix
[03:12] <zq> thanks guys, laters
[03:13] <Guest95965> How do you add additional panels/taskbars onto the desktop in gnome classic/ubuntu 12.04
[03:14] <failmaster> could someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[03:15] <xmetal> hmm
[03:19] <acovrig> What would be the best way of providing microsoft office to 3 people (concurrently) who would click any download button they see (so I don't want to just install 7-not looking forward to dealing w/a trojan again)
[03:19] <pvl1> acovrig: not ubuntu related
[03:20] <acovrig> I know, but I was wondering if someone would recommend a VM setup (what I'm thinking about)
[03:22] <acovrig> I'm thinking of 3 windows 7 VMs in VirtualBox that I'll install and take a snapshot so when they get a virus I can jump back to that; does this seem over complicated?
[03:22] <xmetal> brb looking up issues i am having with newegg
[03:24] <pvl1> acovrig: im not understanding. you want to provde ms office to 3 ppl?
[03:24] <acovrig> yes (siblings taking IC3)
[03:25] <acovrig> I like the idea of VirtualBox accessed via RDP because it can be accessed by a tablet (w/a USB keyboard)
[03:26] <xmetal> may be worth just paying about $10 more for this item .. .anyway .. where did chat go? lol
[03:26] <pvl1> acovrig: thats not concurent to three people, except unless you have 3 vms. have you seen http://desktop.onlive.com/
[03:26] <pvl1> acovrig: or are you trying to go the free route
[03:26] <acovrig> ideally, yes and I was planning on 3 VMs
[03:27] <xmetal> :-" libre or Open office
[03:27] <pvl1> acovrig: i just use google docs. so i cant help ya there
[03:28] <xmetal> oops wrong chat for that 'face'
[03:30] <acovrig> they use libre now, but IC3 will be hard for them anyway, not to mention all the screenshots are going to be office 2010
[03:34] <pvl1> acovrig: x over ssh, wine. 1 vm, 3 users, 3 instances of ms office. check the wine site to see which version of ms office is good to go
[03:34] <pvl1> acovrig: 3 vms would eat a LOT of ram imo
[03:34] <pvl1> acovrig: highly inefficient and power consuming
[03:35] <deepin> hello
[03:35] <pvl1> hello
[03:36] <deepin> where are u from
[03:36] <pvl1> the internet
[03:36] <thiebaude> haha
[03:37] <deepin> - -
[03:39] <pvl1> deepin: whats your question
[03:40] <Geoffroi_Suibhne> Hello everyone, Geoffroi_Suibhnehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[03:40] <thiebaude> go away,lol
[03:41] <acovrig> pvl1: I have 2 systems (old: 512MB RAM, everything is IDE) and 2 PPC mac G5s I bet I can't do anything with these can I?
[03:41] <xmetal> anyway they are able to run open or libre office .. instead of messing with MS office via wine over Vmbox or whatever ?
[03:42] <acovrig> xmetal: that would be wonderful (especially given 1 is already running ubuntu desktop w/libre) but they are quite illiterate so IC3 is going to be hard in itself, and all the screenshots r gonna b of ms office which would make it too confusing :/
[03:43] <pvl1> acovrig: how much ram on the g5's
[03:44] <pvl1> acovrig: so far your still looking at my wine/x-over-ssh solution
[03:45] <acovrig> 8GB I think
[03:45] <acovrig> could I run office in wine on a PPC (wouldn't it require intel)?
[03:48] <pvl1> no idea
[03:48] <pvl1> try compiling it acovrig that would be fun
[03:48] <pvl1> acovrig: 8gb would probably be enough for 3 vm's
[03:48]  * acovrig lol
[03:48] <pvl1> but i just dont like the idea
[03:48] <pvl1> acovrig: windows 7 what version
[03:49] <pvl1> because theres an rdp feature for sharing just a program
[03:49] <kalakj> Hello Everyone, i am using Ubuntu 12.04  x64 LTS, and it is having problem of Restart instead of shutdown, maximum no. of times,, i currently using BURG, instead of GRUB, i also tried to tweak using some flags in GRUB, installed laptop mode tools, this and that, but all are in vain. How to solve that?? BIOS Update was not available for my laptop , LENOVO B480, bios smbios H5ET32WW (1.05 )
[03:49] <pvl1> acovrig: i tink youd be best of one vm, 3 accounts either way. but there is an rdp feature in win7 ultimate that allows you to share programs. kinda kool go research it
[03:49] <Guest38244> can you use adobe photoshop using linux????
[03:49] <acovrig> pvl1: yes, but the fact that there PPCs are *very* limiting, they can't run any windows or the latest flash (in mac any who, I haven't tried ubuntu yet)
[03:50] <deepin> emm,,i have no question ,,,just chatting
[03:50] <kalakj> deepin: Can u help me
[03:50] <acovrig> pvl1: I didn't know that, 1 VM would be *much* better especially given I have a fully legit 7 w/office 2010 in a VM already I can just move over
[03:50] <pvl1> deepin: dont wanna be mean, but the ops and ppls wanna keep this ubuntu specific help. theres ubuntu-offtopic if u just wanna talk. i think theyre currently discussing breaking bad... so im not listening
[03:50] <failmaster> could someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[03:51] <pvl1> acovrig: but what ver win7
[03:51] <pvl1> kalakj: im not sure what is wrong
[03:51] <acovrig> I wanna say ultimate so this could work, but I guess any way I look at it I'm still gonna need a new system (good luck trying to run a win7 VM on a 512MB system)
[03:52] <kalakj> pvl1: hmm, thanks ,but i have tried many OL solutions but these are not working
[03:52] <deepin> what's ur question
[03:53] <pvl1> failmaster: launchpad says its a confirmed bug
[03:54] <failmaster> failmaster, where?
[03:54] <kalakj> pvl1: I am surprised that Ubuntu Developers are messing with such program, which were working well in earlier versions strange, they should not mess with things that are working fine, instead they should work on the programs, that need attentions
[03:54] <failmaster> pvl1, where?
[03:54] <acovrig> I forgot about ubuntu-offtopic, I guess thats where I should be; thanks pvl1 for the help I'll probably end up building an UbuntuDesktop that will autologin and open firefox and auto boot the 7vm in headless mode and use it sorta as a media PC as well
[03:54] <naouguh> quit
[03:54] <naouguh> quit
[03:55] <failmaster> pvl1, could you point at the bug please?
[03:56] <pvl1> failmaster: its the response to the link you provided. hold please
[03:56] <pvl1> acovrig: sounds hip
[03:56] <failmaster> pvl1, it's my own response to myself which points to the bug that could probably correlate with this issue, however i experienced this setup working
[03:56] <pvl1> kalakj: im not understanding of what your issue is
[03:57] <pvl1> failmaster: oh. lol fail. sorry i have no experience with this. but is this not working at all? id recommend the typical debug stuff. logs, running stuff in verbose
[03:58] <kalakj> pvl1: my issue is that, whenever i shutdown my laptop, it restarts, instead of shutdown, and in windows it is properly shutting down, in ubuntu 10.04 or 11.10, it was properly shutting down, but in ubuntu 12.04 LTS, it is restarting
[03:58] <pvl1> kalakj: are you on the system now
[03:58] <kalakj> yes
[03:58] <pvl1> kalakj: or are we talking from another
[03:58] <pvl1> oh
[03:59] <pvl1> kalakj: even when you run sudo shutdown
[03:59] <failmaster> pvl1, it won't work with rootfs device, but anyway, thank you for your attention!
[03:59] <pvl1> failmaster: try #linux
[03:59] <kalakj> yes, it is restarting, i have tried the sudo halt
[04:00] <kalakj> pvl1: but why to issue a command, when there is GUI options available
[04:00] <kalakj> a normal user will use them, instead of commands
[04:00] <failmaster> pvl1, i'm afraid that at the moment people will realize it's ubuntu - getting support from there will be hard ;)
[04:01] <pvl1> kalakj: we need to follow the yellow brick road to whats not working. so even with the command it reboots?
[04:01] <pvl1> failmaster: i doubt it, they like a challange
[04:01] <pvl1> failmaster: if theres people asking about which photo program is best... theyll appreciate this
[04:01] <kalakj> pvl1: i tried  sudo halt, let me try sudo shutdown and tell you the results, i will be back in few minutes.
[04:02] <failmaster> deal
[04:02] <pvl1> kalakj: ill be here
[04:02] <kalakj> because network will disconnect and it will take time to reconnect
[04:11] <ScootaLewis> so uh...hi?
[04:12] <ScootaLewis> so, um
[04:12] <ScootaLewis> i installed ubuntu today
[04:12] <ScootaLewis> 13.04
[04:12] <ScootaLewis> first time using a linux distro
[04:13] <ScootaLewis> and i have some questions about a thing called fglrx?
[04:14] <ScootaLewis> i have a radeon hd 6450 integrated graphics card so i was wondering what the optimal drivers would be for playing a game such as team fortress 2
[04:15] <ScootaLewis> anybody here, uh...know about that?
[04:15] <kalakj> pvl1: it again rebooted
[04:15] <kalakj> i tried sudo shutdown -h now
[04:15] <kalakj> pvl1: are you there
[04:16] <ScootaLewis> i was referred here by someone called benzrf
[04:16] <ScootaLewis> he said i might be able to find help
[04:16] <ScootaLewis> o_o
[04:16] <kalakj> ScootalLewis: :D
[04:17] <ScootaLewis> so yeah if there's any team fortress 2 players who play on ubuntu i'd like to talk
[04:18] <kalakj> ScootaLewis: no, i am not a gaming player.
[04:18] <ScootaLewis> dang.
[04:18] <junktext> Hi ScootaLewis, I play TF2 every so often, but I don't use an ATI card.
[04:18] <ScootaLewis> seems like you're the only one around too
[04:18] <ScootaLewis> oh hey
[04:18] <kalakj> pvl1: HELLp
[04:19] <junktext> I am not familiar with the fglrx aspect, but I did find this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fglrx
[04:19] <ScootaLewis> okay, quick question
[04:19] <junktext> Helps explain the driver a little.
[04:19] <ScootaLewis> have you tried using any custom things in tf2?
[04:19] <junktext> I only casually play TF2 to be honest.  I still prefer TFC :-).
[04:20] <ScootaLewis> ah
[04:20] <failmaster> could someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[04:20] <ScootaLewis> ...that sounds like my cue to leave
[04:20] <pvl1> kalakj: whats wrong
[04:21] <kalakj> pvl1: system reboots again, instead of shutdown, i tried sudo shutdown -h now
[04:21] <pvl1> kalakj: and it reboot again
[04:21] <pvl1> kalakj: lemme think
[04:21] <kalakj> yes
[04:21] <pvl1> aw failmaster i was gonna help him
[04:21] <failmaster> wat?
[04:22] <pvl1> scootalewis i think
[04:22] <pvl1> oh wait no not him
[04:22] <pvl1> junktext: u asking about ati
[04:23] <junktext> No, that was ScootaLewis.
[04:25] <pvl1> oh
[04:25] <pvl1> nvm failmaster, carry on
[04:26] <nurow> Is there any site that lists Ubuntu compatibility with specific laptops?
[04:26] <pvl1> nurow: hardware rather than laptops. somewhere. i cant remember
[04:27] <failmaster> nurow, most of such lists are very outdated so it's nearly impossible to find in there some modern laptop you consider as a candidate on buying
[04:27] <pvl1> kalakj: have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown/135568#135568
[04:27] <junktext> nurow: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ and also look at Zareason and System76 laptops, among other Linux-built laptops.
[04:28] <failmaster> nurow, http://www.linlap.com and such and so on according to google resulsts http://linuxhcl.com
[04:28] <failmaster> junktext, can i order those things in russia?
[04:29] <nurow> junktext, I actually bought a System76 Bonobo Extreme 7, but the clickpad has no driver, the brightness control does not work, and the headphone jack does not work
[04:29] <nurow> I'm actually furious that they claim that these are Ubuntu certified laptops, when they are really just reselling Clevo and have not even written the necessary drivers for the laptops devices.
[04:29] <failmaster> nvm
[04:30] <junktext> nurow, hmm odd.  Did they offer you a replacement?  I've never used a System76 build, but I hear from reviews that many like them.
[04:30] <kalakj> pvl1: yes i tried this, already
[04:30] <kalakj> but it was mentioned in another post
[04:30] <kalakj> still no success
[04:30] <nurow> their support has also been really horrible, with lots of response like "if we figure it out we'll let you know"
[04:30] <junktext> failmaster: I'm not sure about the Russian question.
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> nurow, Sytem 76 has an area on the ubuntu forums, might you talk with them?
[04:30] <failmaster> junktext, nevermind
[04:31] <nurow> yeah I've posted there Wilee-nilee. Lots of others with the same issues.
[04:31] <pvl1> kalakj: i would try to apt-get purge grub-common grub-pc-bin
[04:31] <pvl1> or whatever theyre called
[04:31] <pvl1> kalakj: DO NOT REBOOT
[04:31] <pvl1> then
[04:31] <pvl1> kalakj: reinstall grub, and try that fix
[04:31] <junktext> nurow: I would imagine they would provide you a replacement.  How long have you had your Bonobo?
[04:31] <pvl1> sleepytime
[04:31] <nurow> System76 wants me to mail the laptop back to them, but that will mean I have to go two weeks without a computer..
[04:31] <pvl1> gnight
[04:32] <junktext> Ah, I see.  Sorry it's a pain, I understand.
[04:32] <nurow> junktext, the problem is that the new bonx7 line is missing critical drivers, and even the bonx6 never had propoer clickpad drivers after MONTHS
[04:33] <nurow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163227
[04:33] <kalakj> pvl1: it is also removing other softwares like remastersys
[04:33] <kalakj> and ubuquity etc
[04:33] <kalakj> should i proceed
[04:33] <nurow> I honestly feel like we need a real Ubuntu laptop manufacturer.. not just a Clevo reseller.
[04:33] <ax562> could someone help me with this error?
[04:34] <ax562> E: samba-common: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:34] <ax562> E: samba-common-bin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:34] <ax562> E: libsmbclient-dev: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:34] <kalakj> i also have installed SUPER BOOT MANAGER, BURG
[04:36] <ax562> I tried installing a wipe program and it didn't install correctly.  When I tried to uninstall that error occured
[04:39] <junktext> Well, I'm sure the System76 folks will fix the issue soon according to that thread.  At least they are trying, but I know that it has to be frustrating for the users to wait.
[04:39] <kalakj> pvl1: thanks for your time
[04:39] <kalakj> i have to go
[04:39] <kalakj> i will try to solve it some other day
[04:40] <junktext> But, I agree.  The more Linux hardware distros, the better.
[04:40] <kalakj> so far, have a nice day
[04:46] <failmaster> is there some service i could buy subscription from to get support for ubuntu or linux related technical problems in general?
[04:49] <dr_willis> caonical sells support - i thought ;)
[04:49] <dr_willis> no idea what  'support' really means in that case however
[04:50] <MonkWitDaFunk> IC3, the internet core computing certifcate is easy of you can do the microsoft digital literacy exam which is free to take
[04:50] <ax562> dr_willis, could you help with my problem?
[04:51] <alfreddba> i installed mmonit.. ubuntu 12.04..when a start service...its telling mmonit: unrecognized service..pls guide me ..
[04:51] <MonkWitDaFunk> You can take the exam online and print out your certification yoursrlf. I got 92% on it
[04:51] <dr_willis> ax562:  with any apt issues. you should pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and the actual apt-get install whatever command   outputs
[04:51] <failmaster> np i just had to ask, thanks!
[04:51] <dr_willis> ax562:  i rarely have to work on apt issues.
[04:51] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  how are you starting the service?
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> !info mmonit
[04:52] <alfreddba> dr_willis: service mmonit start
[04:52] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  are you sure the service name is mmonit?    use the TAB key to complete the proper service name (or see a list of services)
[04:53] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  and you would need a sudo at the start  of the command i imagine
[04:53] <dr_willis> !find mmonit
[04:54] <alfreddba> dr_willis: if i use sudo its starting..its default port no 8080...when am open in browser..the page unable to load..pls guide me..
[04:55] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  ive never even heard of mmonit befor..   so it started.. but not working.. check its configs and logs to determine why its not working.
[04:55] <dr_willis> and its homepage and hopefullyy its install/trouble shooting docs
[04:55] <alfreddba> dr_willis: am getting this error..Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to localhost:8080
[04:56] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  so its not running on that port.  aparently
[04:56] <dr_willis> or not running at all
[04:56] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[04:56] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[04:57] <alfreddba> dr_willis: how to solve...pls help me..i googled but not solved..
[04:58] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  i dont have any magical answers.. ive never heard of the service or tool befor. so how should i know.    common trouble shooting  methodology.. CHECK THE LOGS for the service. have  its configs enable verbose logging and check the logs...  check its homepage and forums for  trouble shooting tips
[04:58]  * dr_willis has no idea what mmonit even does.
[04:59] <alfreddba> mmonit used to monit services,
[04:59] <dr_willis> many services can start in a non-deamon mode - so their error messages and logs can go to the standard console
[04:59] <dr_willis> a service to service services....
[05:00] <dr_willis> my first guess would be you have it missconfigured.  so its not starting. or  its starting but you are using the wrong ip/port combo
[05:00] <dr_willis> the service command can show what services are running.
[05:01] <alfreddba> dr_willis:  ichecked the log...Required <License> element not found...
[05:01] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  means very little to me.. check the mmonit homepage and hopefully its forums or faq will shed some light on it.
[05:02] <alfreddba> dr_willis: thanks..
[05:02] <guddamz> hello to everyone..
[05:02] <dr_willis> moo!
[05:03] <lucidium> Is it possible to downgrade ubuntu so I can use the fglrx 9.3 drivers?
[05:03] <guddamz> I'm trying to calibrate my webcam. there is an error saying about shared-color-targets.. need help
[05:03] <dr_willis> lucidium:  its more likelyu it will just break badly
[05:04] <dr_willis> lucidium:  you could try the older .run package to get the older drivers.. but that would be risky also
[05:06] <Cyrax> Who was it who wanted this md5sum? me the one who had problem to run ubuntu
[05:06] <xmetal> back
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, I suggested you run it, you would check if the ISO is equal.
[05:07] <Cyrax> no.. i mean.. i have this in a txt file
[05:07] <dr_willis> Cyrax:  you calculate the md5sum of a file you download. and compare it to whats in the txt file (that contains the original sum) and make sure the 2 are equil
[05:07] <ubnoobtu> ive seen those
[05:07] <Cyrax> Where do i compare it?
[05:08] <dr_willis> md5sum command has an option/feature i recall to read the txt file : or just LOOK at both numbers
[05:08] <dr_willis> read the txt file.. look at the sum it gives.   look at the calculated sum
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, YOu still have the link the bot gave?
[05:09] <Cyrax> idk.. i fell asleep so i forgot.. sorry. besides it confuse me the whole md5sum thing.. have no clue what it is,how to do it
[05:09] <dr_willis> md5sum testfile   -> prints out a  huge number..
[05:09] <dr_willis> the md5sum.txt file from your download site willl have a 'testfile   originalsum#####' you look at and compare the 2
[05:10] <Cyrax> Compare sure i can.. but how when idk what to look for.. no idea about md5sum
[05:10] <dr_willis> what to look for? if you got the calculated sum. and the sum from the file.. you just look and se eif the 2 numbers are the same
[05:11] <Cyrax> besudes i only have 1 md5sum.txt file
[05:11] <Cyrax> *besides
[05:11] <dr_willis> Cyrax:  so look IN the file.. and find the sum for whatever file you are interested in
[05:11] <dr_willis> what is the file name you are  wanting to sum?
[05:11] <junktext> An MD5 is like a file's fingerprint.  If you have a corrupt/malicious file, you can compare a known good MD5 to a file by running "md5sum <file>" in a shell.  If the output of md5sum differs from the known good MD5 file, you have a problem.
[05:13] <Cyrax> dr_willis: here is what the md5sum look like: http://pastebin.com/DzB4QaE7
[05:13] <M4yh3m> hi i had an awful issue with ubuntu last night.. after installing it and rebooted my computer it got frozend at the bios just after detecting my hard drive, i couldn't enter the bios or do anything else.
[05:13] <dr_willis> Cyrax:  you dont need to sum EVERY FILE.. just the one you are interested in
[05:14] <M4yh3m> does any one have any information regarding this issue?
[05:14] <Cyrax> told u i have no idea.. thats y i gave u that
[05:14] <junktext> For example if you have a text file and all it says is "Hi", and then you run and md5sum on that, then you change the text to "Hi?", then run md5sum again.  You'll see two different MD5 values.
[05:14] <dr_willis> if the file name is 'foo.iso'  you would 'md5sum foo.iso'   then look  in your md5sum.txt file for a line with 'foo.iso' in it that lists its sum
[05:14] <dr_willis> its not very complex at all.
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, Black screen, blinking cursor? "it got frozend at the bios just after detecting my hard drive" is rather vague
[05:15] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee just stopped after detecting my hard drives
[05:15] <dr_willis> you wnt to check the md5sum of the ISO file after you download it and verifyu its good.. befor  you burn it or put it on usb
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, screen black?
[05:16] <M4yh3m> not black screen or blinking cursor just that.. just stopped there
[05:16] <Cyrax> Sorry.. but i can't underdstand it.
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, What release?
[05:16] <M4yh3m> 13.04
[05:17] <M4yh3m> it's very strange i had linux mint before but i wanted to move to ubuntu
[05:17] <M4yh3m> i did the partitioning.. fine the installation gone well.. everything was fine.. just rebooted and my computer halted at the bios..
[05:17] <netcat> help! i have format  /boot
[05:18] <ax562> where does ubuntu store it's apps?
[05:18] <Cyrax> Besises like i said its my first time,so idk anything about md5sum and those
[05:18] <netcat> i installed ubuntu and then install win7 ,but i can't start anyone
[05:18] <junktext> An MD5 is a mathematical value of the overall file, which is why each MD5 value is generally unique.  Because there are so many MD5 values that can be output, and this is why it is hard to fool a tool like "md5sum" by adding a virus or doing something else to the original file without being noticed by an MD5 value.
[05:19] <ubnoobtu> can you link the help page again?
[05:19] <netcat> so i format /boot,and install a grub,when open computer show grub>
[05:19] <junktext> So and MD5 or "md5sum" is just a quick 'smell-test' to see if the file is intact as intended.
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> m4sker, Power on and immediately hold down the shift and if you see the grub boot menu hit e and navigate to this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" And change it to this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" and continue boot to see where it stops, you can also use nomodeset there to check for a missing graphic driver.
[05:20] <Cyrax> Anyone knows any older version of ubuntu? cuz i can't get the newest version to work at all. i dont have any clue about this md5sum thing how to compare and all
[05:21] <netcat> who help me?
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Older than what?
[05:21] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee i couldn't do anything :( my computer freeze completeley after detecting my hard drive.. i think it could be something with the partitioning
[05:21] <Cyrax> older then version 12  of ubuntu
[05:21] <junktext> You don't really need to do the md5sum if you trust the source of where you received the file, Cyrax.  The md5sum is just for the overly cautious.
[05:21] <Cyrax> version 12 dont work for me
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, So no bios flash?
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, That is the oldest supported with a desktop.
[05:22] <Flannel> junktext: md5sum helps check for download problems.
[05:22] <junktext> Flannel, I hear you, but the installer does that too.
[05:22] <Flannel> Cyrax: If you don't want to figure out md5sum, download it via the torrent.  Bittorrent will do an integrity check for you.
[05:23] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee i have some skills at computers.. so certainly i can tell you.. ubuntu did something to the partition table or the MBR so my computer freeze, i can see the bios screen but it hangs after detecting my hard drive..
[05:23] <thinced> or simply type: md5sum whatever.iso
[05:23] <netcat> who help me?
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, I was not questioning your skills, best of luck. ;)
[05:24] <M4yh3m> i had to remove my drive then connect it to another computer with an usb adapter so i could wipe it with a low level format..
[05:24] <netcat> i format /boot
[05:25] <netcat> and install grub,when open computer show grub>
[05:25] <looped> 9
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, If you did a low level wipe it probably had no partition table, did you make one?
[05:25] <netcat> 9
[05:25] <Cyrax> writing md5sum in terminal didnt work
[05:26] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee yes now i have to reformat and create everything again.. but i want firs figure out what happened previously..
[05:26] <junktext> Did you just get a blank line after you typed "md5sum", Cyrax?
[05:26] <netcat> hello
[05:27] <junktext> If so, it's because you should actually type: md5sum <filename>
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, Sure, sometimes this happens, with no determinable reason.
[05:27] <Cyrax> yes ofcourse.. i wrote md5sum [the name of exact file i downloaded that ended with .iso]
[05:27] <dr_willis> Cyrax:  use a proper command syntax as was shown
[05:27] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee i scare to install ubuntu :D
[05:27] <dr_willis> it will take time to calculate  the sum
[05:27] <junktext> Yeah, that could be too.
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, You have windows 8 how are you running a sum check?
[05:28] <junktext> Oh, he's on Windows, huh?
[05:28] <Cyrax> yes i am
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> was earlier this is a vbox install
[05:28] <Cyrax> I got windows 8 64 bit.. and running virtualbox on it
[05:28] <junktext> Yeah, Windows doesn't have a default md5sum app.
[05:29] <junktext> You can download a program though.
[05:29] <dr_willis> many burning apps calculate  the sum also
[05:29] <junktext> Cyrax, which version of Ubuntu did you download?
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, This was the 32 bit ubuntu desktop right?
[05:30] <TannedVampire> how do I load ubuntu to ram on startup?
[05:30] <Cyrax> no idea about that. from what i heard last time he said i was running or might running x86 (32),but it didnt work
[05:31] <Cyrax> \tbh i have no idea.. everything is confusing with all the problems trying to get it to work
[05:31] <Cyrax> here is what i downloaded: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Make a copy of the iso name it the same as the torrent file seen here and use a torrent to check it. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[05:32] <junktext> So, have you burnt that ISO to a CD/DVD?  Did you have problems?
[05:32] <dr_willis> TannedVampire: you want to put the live cd totally into ram?
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, This is the torrent name.  ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:33] <TannedVampire> i already installed ubuntu on my laptop, but it is too slow.
[05:33] <dr_willis> TannedVampire:  and your system specs are?
[05:34] <TannedVampire> I thought that putting all of ubuntu and applications onto RAM at startup might speed up user experience.
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, Is the hardware up for the release?
[05:34] <dr_willis> !ram
[05:34] <TannedVampire> 2.7 Mb RAM 1.6 GHz AMD
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, A netbook?
[05:35] <Ben64> megabytes of memory?
[05:35] <TannedVampire> mb
[05:35] <TannedVampire> I mean MB
[05:35] <TannedVampire> megabytes
[05:35] <Ben64> no you don't
[05:36] <TannedVampire> I think it is not a netbook.
[05:36] <dr_willis> linux handles the ram better then you can. B-)
[05:36] <TannedVampire> a regular 5 year old laptop
[05:36] <dr_willis> i think you need to look again
[05:36] <junktext> TannedVampire, most computers today use GigaBytes (GB) of RAM, not the smaller MB.
[05:36] <TannedVampire> Oh
[05:37] <Ben64> TannedVampire: if you're using unity, that may be causing it to be slow, i'd suggest using something like gnome-fallback or xfce
[05:37] <TannedVampire> 2.7 GigaBytes
[05:37] <TannedVampire> sorry
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, There are a couple of lighter desktops you can add to try xubuntu and a lighter lubuntu or their variants xfce4 and lxde
[05:37] <TannedVampire> I messed up units
[05:37] <joshef> hi
[05:37] <dr_willis> TannedVampire:  and your video card is a?
[05:37] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee i found this bug report.. this is my problem.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-base/+bug/551965
[05:38] <Ben64> since he said 2.7GB of ram, it's using 256MB shared memory, so it can't be a good card
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, That says 10.04 you are running 13.04
[05:38] <failmaster> could someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[05:39] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee i'm just trying you understand what my problem is..
[05:39] <M4yh3m> is the same issue.. but with 13.04
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, I understand.
[05:39] <TannedVampire> I don't know how to get specs of video card.  I guess it isn't a good card.
[05:40] <darkxst> TannedVampire, Have a look under "details" in system settings
[05:45] <M4yh3m> wilee-nilee i will try partition my drive previously with the live cd and gparted then use those partitions to install ubuntu
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> M4yh3m, Cool, good luck. ;)
[05:46] <M4yh3m> sorry for being a pain in the a** xD i'm tired dealing with this since last night :P
[05:47] <xmetal> back again
[05:47] <M4yh3m> i thought my hard drive was death so i smashed it on the floor and took a second one.. then i tried again and got the same issue that pissed me off :P
[05:47] <moldy> hi
[05:47] <Cyrax> if this time i can't get it to work,from the link u gave,then i give up ubuntu
[05:48] <moldy> is there a way i can reinstall the base system if some important packages are gone?
[05:49] <moldy> right now, i am missing module-init-tools. i cannot install it because dpkg errors on linux-ubuntu-modules-*
[05:55] <M4yh3m> really ubuntu is a big deal.. every time i tried to install it had issues.. big time.
[05:55] <M4yh3m> i've installed linux mint 15 and was smoth.. just install and everything works.. just that.
[05:56] <Myrtti> ok?
[06:02] <gr72> Hello is anyone on in here?
[06:02] <galileolivingsto> #channel
[06:07] <gr72> So I've had Ubuntu 12,04 for about a year now and installed steam, I've followed multiple links in order to get OpenGL to work and I've got that working however now the graphics aren't right. The screen jumps and such. Here is an example or two (http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-12_08_56_15-RWwuqhhB.png  http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-13_01_49_57-mrGoPwWs.png) Any one know what could possibly be my issue?
[06:08] <gr72> And the bar still funcitons at the top, however the graphics for the actual bar are on the bottom of the screen.
[06:10] <failmaster> could someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[06:19] <Cyrax> Can anyone give me a photo how the ubuntu alternate looks like on desktop? for 12.04 version
[06:19] <AndresSM> it's just the same
[06:19] <looped> incase anyone else finds joy in a serious (facepalm) i just had. configuration option is hash_behavio*u*r, not hash_behavior. :P
[06:19] <AndresSM> the installer is te only difference
[06:20] <looped> wrong channel, sorry :P
[06:21] <Twenty-three> hi guys, i cannot see the launcher in unity, i only see the desktop icons (some) and it all comes at the wrong resolution which i cannot seem to change, i purged nvidia drivers and installed again, any clues on how i could fix that and reset unity?
[06:22] <Twenty-three> also, doing "grep -i error ~/.xsession-errors came back with a number of errors along the lines of "opengl not loaded"
[06:25] <rigo88> hi
[06:26] <rigo88> which is the latest kernel for ubuntu 12.04 lts? the 3.6.3?
[06:27] <somsip> !info linux-image-generic precise | rigo88
[06:27] <Ben64> !info linux-image-generic-lts-quantal precise | rigo88 this too
[06:28] <Ben64> !info linux-image-generic-lts-raring precise | rigo88 maybe even
[06:29] <rigo88> does it makes any sence to upgrade if everything works just fine?
[06:30] <moldy> rigo88: yes. you want security updates.
[06:31] <rigo88> than i give 3.8.0 a try
[06:32] <rigo88> what about 3.9.0? it is also raring.
[06:32] <Cyrax> if i installed a ubuntu 32 bit,but want 64 bit but same version.. are there any command to upgrade to same version,but 64 bit?
[06:33] <Ben64> Cyrax: no
[06:33] <Cyrax> ok.. thanks
[06:35] <matthias_android> I've got an issue with my ltsp fat client system. Who could help me pls.
[06:36] <Cyrax> Whats the different between a ubuntu and ubuntu alternate? and what is different between 64 bit adn 32 bit?
[06:37] <matthias_android> I've got an issue with my ltsp fat client system. Who could help me
[06:38] <moldy> matthias_android: try #ltsp
[06:38] <moldy> matthias_android: and describe your issue as exactly as possible
[06:38] <matthias_android> moldy i did so, but nobody answers me
[06:39] <Ben64> so your solution is to describe nothing?
[06:39] <moldy> matthias_android: then describe it here as well. if you get no answer, you will have to wait. or you can try an appropriate mailing list
[06:40] <matthias_android> Ok i have to turn on my computer because typing on a smartphone is really hard
[06:40] <rigo88> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.9.0-030900-generic (x86_64)
[06:41] <rigo88> Consult /var/lib/dkms/fglrx-experimental-12/12.100/build/make.log for more information.
[06:41] <Ben64> rigo88: are you trying to break your system? :S
[06:41] <auronandace> rigo88: we cannot support kernels that are not in the repos
[06:41] <xmetal> hmm to have someone answer it helps to actually ask the question
[06:41] <Cyrax> u know what.. I give up on ubuntu.. every time i try,i can't get the ubuntu to work.. this is annoying
[06:41] <rigo88> ive downloaded from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/
[06:41] <Ben64> Cyrax: just ask a question here and you usually can get an answer
[06:41] <Ben64> rigo88: yeah, we can't support stuff from there
[06:42] <auronandace> rigo88: ppas are unsupported here
[06:42] <Cyrax> i did ask,but all i got was to check md5sum wich i have no idea how to check..
[06:42] <Cyrax> the only way for me to get ubuntu to work is to install a older version of ubuntu.. older then version 12
[06:43] <Ben64> Cyrax: i didn't see you ask, but you can use "md5sum"
[06:43] <failmaster> could someone help please to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[06:43] <Cyrax> i did ask.. and i tried everything for a whole day.. nothing work.. i really don't know what to do
[06:45]  * alphix
[06:46]  * alphix
[06:46] <Cyrax> I know now ubuntu version 12 doesn't work
[06:46] <auronandace> Cyrax: there is no 12, its either 12.04 or 12.10
[06:47] <Cyrax> there is a version 12.. thats the one I installed on virtual box
[06:47] <Cyrax> u know what i ment
[06:47] <Cyrax> i ment 12.04.. but it doesnt work anyway
[06:48] <Ben64> 12.04 works fine, i'm on it right now
[06:48] <Ben64> if you want to get it working, start asking questions, this channel is not for rants
[06:48] <Cyrax> then why can't i get it to work? i run ubuntu .. well did on virtual box
[06:48] <Cyrax> I did ask O.o
[06:48] <auronandace> Cyrax: start with telling us your computer specs
[06:49] <matthias_> moldy: My Server is an Ubuntu 12.04 Lts 64-bit. In my network i've got an dhcp router which i can not modify for network booting. so  i set up an dnsmasq server on my ubnuntu server. First i wanted to build thin client images and boot them over network and everything went well: got an ip from my router and booted up from the servers image. but now i want to set up fat clients, because the clients hardware is very good. the clients are 64-
[06:49] <Cyrax> my computer is completely new..
[06:49] <Cyrax> windows 8 64 bit,8GB ram
[06:49] <Cyrax> thats all i know
[06:49] <auronandace> !uefi | Cyrax
[06:50] <Ben64> auronandace: doesn't matter for vbox
[06:50] <mar77i> meh... I modified that file in /usr/share/applications and now it seems it's not displayed in unity any more... which is kind of illogic
[06:51] <auronandace> Ben64: i thought he wanted a hardware install (as in he's done virtualbox and wanted more)
[06:51] <mar77i> what is the setting by which unity/alacarte searches stuff?
[06:51] <matthias_> moldy: I'm matthias_android on my computer.
[06:51] <mar77i> is it enough for stuff to be in /usr/share/applications?
[06:51] <Cyrax> I have tried since early today try get ubuntu 12.04 to work.. i even tried the version 13 and 11 or what version is called.. none got me into the desktop of ubuntu.. only version that got me in was version 9 of ubuntu
[06:51] <Ben64> auronandace: hard to tell i guess, he's not really providing any info
[06:52] <auronandace> Ben64: very true
[06:52] <Cyrax> Its my first time using ubuntu..
[06:52] <auronandace> Cyrax: what are you trying to install ubuntu on? a vm (vbox)? an actual install on the hardware?
[06:53] <Cyrax> VM (vbox)
[06:53] <matthias_> here's a screenshoot of my issue: http://imgur.com/WrYapal
[06:53] <auronandace> Cyrax: have you used virtualbox before?
[06:54] <Cyrax> Long long Looooooong time ago.. but i forgot all about it
[06:54]  * alphix
[06:54] <auronandace> Cyrax: what specs are you giving the vm?
[06:55] <Cyrax> idk.. i only make a virtual drive,then install ubuntu on it
[06:55] <moldy> matthias_: you have not described your actual problem yet -- where are you stuck?
[06:55] <auronandace> Cyrax: you should know, you made the vm
[06:56] <lacy20> good afternoon
[06:56] <matthias_> moldy: have you seen my screenshoot? my clients load everything until they configure the eth0 and get a new ip adress and then they stop and fall into busybox
[06:57] <auronandace> Cyrax: how much ram and diskspace did you give it?
[06:57] <Cyrax> if u give me a min,i check once I made virtual drive once again
[06:58] <moldy> matthias_: something is wrong in your client image. apparently something related to nbd
[06:59] <Cyrax> On Memory Size I always made it to 1204MB.. after awhile i gave it 2000MB.. the other one i had it on 8GB
[06:59] <Cyrax> *1024MB
[06:59] <moldy> matthias_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP#Failure:_Insufficient_Information_to_set_up_nbd.2C_quitting
[06:59] <auronandace> Cyrax: 2048mb should be enough
[07:00] <Cyrax> well.. either way.. i cna't get it to work.. i try again
[07:00] <auronandace> Cyrax: if your hardware has 8gb then i doubt you could set up a vm that uses 8gb ram
[07:01] <Coburn> you can give a VM 8GB
[07:01] <Coburn> you'll just be swapping like hell
[07:01] <Coburn> how can I have a onscreen keyboard on the unlock prompt?
[07:01] <Coburn> I don't have keyboard on this tablet
[07:01] <Cyrax> So what should i put it on? what GB?. i had it on default 8GB
[07:02] <Coburn> Cyrax: half your available ram at the most
[07:02] <Coburn> for example, use 8GB? then 4GB
[07:02] <auronandace> Cyrax: are you sure you are referring to ram?
[07:02] <Cyrax> No idea
[07:02] <Cyrax> let me check
[07:02] <auronandace> Cyrax: if 8gb is the default i sincerely doubt thats the default setting for a ubuntu vm
[07:03] <Cyrax> File and location size is at the default 8GB .. the memory size i gave it 2048
[07:03] <Cyrax> *2048MB
[07:03] <auronandace> Cyrax: memory is ram
[07:03] <auronandace> Cyrax: the default 8gb you are referring to is the size of the disk you are giving it
[07:04] <Cyrax> so give it like 4000MB?
[07:04] <failmaster> could someone help please to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[07:04] <auronandace> Cyrax: i'd use 10gb for the harddisk at least
[07:06] <Cyrax> Max memory size I can choose is 8192, MAx file and location size I can choose is 2TB
[07:06] <auronandace> Cyrax: you don't want either that high
[07:06] <Cyrax> i know
[07:06] <matthias_> moldy: thanks what i did was to add an option that was not for 12.04 but it works now
[07:06] <auronandace> Cyrax: 2gb ram, 10gb harddrive is enough
[07:09] <Cyrax> auronandace: so what shall i do now after choosing harddrive and ram? i only need to find how to make ubuntu work.. idk how to explain it
[07:10] <auronandace> Cyrax: go to the settings of your vm and make sure the storage section has the iso you downloaded in it so you can install
[07:10] <gsommer> I've used apt to install the source for a package. I've fiddled with some changes, and - I would like to build a package WITHOUT commiting the code first (As I'm not sure this is the final patch). How do I do that? Or, how do I at-least test the code before commiting ?
[07:11] <Cyrax> the ubuntu i choosed is in the "Storage"
[07:12] <auronandace> Cyrax: then boot the vm
[07:13] <Cyrax> ok i did eboot.. but i know i will b in the terminal only
[07:13] <Cyrax> *reboot
[07:15] <auronandace> Cyrax: under display settings tick enable 3d accelleration and set the video ram to max
[07:19] <Cyrax> Video memory has a max of 128MB
[07:19] <rjknight1> hello guys, how we make our ubuntu server router as router mode not as gateway?
[07:19] <matthias_> my fat client don't have internet connection
[07:20] <boriseto> Hi, can somebody help me restore the Intel graphic driver and remove the AMD one?
[07:20] <alnewkirk> I want a slingshot-like launcher for ubuntu-classic gnome2
[07:20] <Cyrax> So i maxed it to 128MB on video memory and ticked the box enable 3D acceleration
[07:20] <auronandace> Cyrax: good
[07:21] <Cyrax> Anything else i should do in the setting before i continue?
[07:21] <auronandace> Cyrax: nothing i can think of
[07:21] <Cyrax> What about monitor count?
[07:21] <auronandace> Cyrax: i never alter that
[07:22] <Cyrax> What about the options under Network?
[07:22] <auronandace> Cyrax: the defaults there have always worked fine
[07:22] <Cyrax> ok.. i try and see now
[07:24] <Cyrax> auronandace: is this anything that should b fixed? http://puu.sh/40QkR.png
[07:25] <auronandace> Cyrax: you can't do anything about that, just ignore it
[07:25] <auronandace> Cyrax: actually, can you show me a full screenshot of the vm please
[07:26] <Cyrax> it has a box to tick or not.. if i want to download updates under installation of ubuntu.. tick or not?
[07:26] <auronandace> Cyrax: you are at the installer?
[07:27] <Cyrax> before i continue,it has a option to tick if I want to download updates under the isntallation
[07:27] <Cyrax> *installation
[07:27] <auronandace> Cyrax: you are at the installer?
[07:27] <Cyrax> anyway.. here is what my vm looks like: http://puu.sh/40Qpy.png
[07:28] <auronandace> Cyrax: i didn't want that creen, i wanted a screenshot of the actual vm running
[07:28] <Cyrax> oh.. what if I made a small video while I do it.. woudl that help?
[07:28] <Cyrax> *would
[07:29] <auronandace> Cyrax: just a screenshot please
[07:29] <ejv> Need help installing mysql on 12.04 LTS, this is embarassing that this is even happening frankly... : http://dpaste.com/1341424/
[07:29] <Cyrax> sure
[07:30] <auronandace> ejv: in case nobody answers here there is also #ubuntu-server
[07:32] <Cyrax> auronandace: http://puu.sh/40Qzc.jpg
[07:33] <auronandace> Cyrax: so you are at the installer, everything seems to be working fine, i wanted a screenshot showing the little indicators on the bottom
[07:34] <Cyrax> auronandace: http://puu.sh/40QCc.jpg
[07:34] <ejv> thanks auronandace
[07:35] <ejv> this is... just... incredible that an update could trash people's db's like this lol
[07:35] <auronandace> Cyrax: thanks, as i thought, you see that v? that means your processor hasn't been enabled for virtualisation. you need to do that from the bios or however you do it via windows 8
[07:35] <anonymous666> can someone plz help
[07:35] <anonymous666> someone help
[07:36] <anonymous666> i need halp
[07:36] <Cyrax> do it on my actually computer windows 8? in bios?
[07:36] <auronandace> Cyrax: it is normally in the bios
[07:36] <anonymous666> m8 help i need urgent help on my ubntu machin
[07:37] <Cyrax> i dont touch anything that might ruin my computer
[07:37] <anonymous666> fck your issus i hve prblms of my own
[07:37] <auronandace> Cyrax: it won't ruin anything, it enables virtualisation support
[07:37] <anonymous666> nbody cares.
[07:37] <anonymous666> i need more help
[07:38] <Cyrax> i dont even know how, auronandace
[07:38] <auronandace> Cyrax: some vms require it, without it things can get rather slow (not good performance)
[07:38] <auronandace> Cyrax: you need to find out then
[07:38] <Cyrax> Cant I sue another vm that dont require it?
[07:38] <Cyrax> *use
[07:39] <auronandace> Cyrax: ubuntu doesn't require it but it is certainly better to have it enabled
[07:39] <Cyrax> i dont want to touch bios
[07:40] <auronandace> Cyrax: in that case you won't get the best performance from your vm
[07:40] <Cyrax> i used vm before and I never touched the bios before.. and it went fine at that time
[07:41] <auronandace> Cyrax: it can be better than fine but thats up to you
[07:42] <auronandace> Cyrax: i don't really see the point in not enabling it, if your processor supports it then why not have it on?
[07:42] <Cyrax> Cuz I dont want to risk in any chance to touch bios and it might ruin my computer.. i'm very careful touching things that IK think might ruin my computer
[07:43] <ikonia> Cyrax: it's an option that says "enabling virtuization support" or "enable VT support" - words to that effect, set it, or don't, it's up to you
[07:43] <auronandace> Cyrax: if you are very careful then you will understand exactly what you are doing, its just one setting that makes your cpu better suited to virtualisation (nothing can go wrong)
[07:44] <Cyrax> So where do i change it? idk how
[07:44] <ikonia> Cyrax: you look in your bios and change the setting from "no" to "yes"
[07:46] <Cyrax> i'll check it.. be back soon
[07:53] <Cyrax> back.. and i checked bios.. can't see any option there
[07:54] <Cyrax> Not that kind of option
[07:54] <ikonia> Cyrax: maybe worth talking to the vendor about it
[07:54] <ikonia> Cyrax: asking them to confirm the right setting
[07:54] <Cyrax> its easier not to use ubuntu.. too bad i wanted to try ubuntu adn now ubuntu won't work for me
[07:55] <ikonia> unlucky then
[07:55] <auronandace> Cyrax: what do you mean it won't work? you were at the install screen
[07:55] <Cyrax> yes.. but i dont want only terminal
[07:55] <ikonia> Cyrax: is it still dropping to the terminal rather than starting X
[07:55] <Cyrax> i only get terminal.. thats all.. its jsut lime cmd
[07:56] <auronandace> Cyrax: is that after installing?
[07:56] <Cyrax> yes
[07:56] <ikonia> Cyrax: and we discussed this earlier, you need to check why X is not starting
[07:56] <ikonia> someone was helping you go through the error log earlier
[07:56] <Cyrax> Someone said something about Xorg
[07:56] <ikonia> yes, I told you X org was not starting, and someone was telling you how to look at the log
[07:56] <Cyrax> but it confused me
[07:57] <ikonia> Cyrax: yes, the error was the vboxvideo module was not being loaded as I recall
[07:57] <ikonia> it was looking for the device /dev/dri/card0
[07:58] <coresnake> hi there, can anyone tell me if theres a way to login to launchpad with the username i used, not the email?
[07:58] <ikonia> Cyrax:  you need to make sure you have enough video memory set in your virtual machine
[07:58] <coresnake> i cant remember the email and im trying to deactivate the account, i contacted support but they wouldnt help me
[07:58] <ikonia> coresnake: username = email
[07:58] <Cyrax> i did try sudo apt-get or whatever it is called and wrote update with it
[07:58] <coresnake> hmm
[07:59] <coresnake> but its only the first part of the email
[07:59] <ikonia> Cyrax: in virtual box make sure you set video to have 128mb (256mb if possible) of ram
[07:59] <Cyrax> i did max it
[07:59] <Cyrax> let me try it again
[07:59] <ikonia> Cyrax: what is it set to
[07:59] <failmaster> could someone help please to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?
[08:00] <Cyrax> I was told to set Memory size to 2048 and file adn locaction size to 10GB
[08:00] <ffio> is it a good idea to have ldap and kerberos based authentication for NFS and samba for home use ?
[08:00] <ikonia> Cyrax: no, not memory, VIDEO CARD memory
[08:00] <ikonia> Cyrax: you also need to make sure you have the virtualbox guest extension installed on the host
[08:01] <Cyrax> i know.. but i have to set that first the Memory size and stuff ebfore i change the videomemory
[08:01] <ikonia> Cyrax: right, so set the video card memory, make sure you have the guest additions package installed on the host
[08:03] <Cyrax> Now I maxed video memory to 128 wich is max,memory size to 2048MB,file and location size to 10GB
[08:03] <Cyrax> and tick the box Enable 3D acceleration
[08:04] <Cyrax> Thats correct,isnt it? all that?
[08:05] <t-mo> hello,  am I in the right place for some advice on ubuntu?
[08:05] <DJones> t-mo: You certainly are
[08:05] <ikonia> Cyrax: is the guest extensions package installed on the host
[08:05] <Cyrax> idk.. how i check it?
[08:06] <Cyrax> Wait
[08:06] <Cyrax> u mean install it from terminal?
[08:06] <ikonia> no...
[08:06] <Cyrax> then idk how to check it
[08:06] <ikonia> Cyrax: have you actually read how to set virtualbox up on windows 8 ?
[08:06] <Cyrax> no.. i just installed virtualbox
[08:06] <ejv> i know how to set it up on win8, next, next, next, finish. :D
[08:07] <ikonia> Cyrax: right, I suggest you actually read up how to set the host up, use ##windows and #virtualbox channels for windows and virtualbox help
[08:08] <Cyrax> How come I need that much jsut for ubuntu.. before i didnt even needed that much.. not that I can remember
[08:08] <ikonia> Cyrax: because it has hardware requirements
[08:09] <Cyrax> Where can i get that guest extansion pack?
[08:09] <ikonia> Cyrax: as I've just told you READ how to setup virtualbox on windows 8 - use the ##windows channel for windows help and #vbox for virtualbox help
[08:11] <t-mo> Good news.  I have the following issue which I have tried to find a guide or solution for in forums etc. without success.  I have successfully installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an intel iMac that was running OSX 10.6.8  I overwrote the old OSX and now it is a pure Ubuntu machine.  I need to be able to boot this iMac into OSX again with a view to making it triple bootable (Win7, Ubuntu and OSX)  There is m
[08:11] <ikonia> t-mo: you need to delete ubuntu and install macos X first
[08:11] <ejv> serious question, what is a guest extension pack? :)
[08:11] <santhosh> hai  pls tell me how to installtion og ubuntu using lvm concept
[08:11] <DJones> t-mo: Your last message was cut off  at "There is m"
[08:11] <ejv> i thought vbot packaged everything together in one nice build...
[08:11] <ejv> vbox*
[08:11] <ikonia> ejv: it allows the guests to interact with the host hardware directly, ad some extra features,
[08:11] <blazemore> !lvm | santhosh
[08:12] <t-mo> I am quite clear on how to do this from OSX or Win7 but clueless about how to get osx back un my imac
[08:12] <santhosh> okj
[08:12] <ejv> yea i thought it did that by default, for example my i7 has intel VT-d; i hope it would simply "know" to take advantage of it, maybe i should take another look
[08:12] <ikonia> t-mo: you put the OSX disk in the mac, and boot from it and then install
[08:12] <ikonia> t-mo: the guys in ##macosX can help walk you through the install
[08:13] <ikonia> t-mo: sorry #macosx is the channel
[08:13] <t-mo> is there a trick to getting Ubuntu to recognise the osx install disk?  I did try this path first, but ubuntu seems to ignore the dvd drive
[08:13] <santhosh> when i install ubuntu i get no lvms and np pvs how to nextend root and home size
[08:14] <ikonia> t-mo: it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:14] <ikonia> t-mo: you don't have ubuntu booted at that time
[08:14] <ikonia> t-mo: you hold down (I think) the letter C at boot time to get it to boot from cdrom
[08:14] <ikonia> t-mo: then you can install macos X - the guys in #macosx will explain in clearer detail
[08:14] <t-mo> sorry, but if i want to boot from cd in osx, I hold down a certain key combo.  is there something similar here?
[08:15] <ikonia> t-mo: this is nothing to do with the OS
[08:15] <santhosh> when i install ubuntu i get no lvms and np pvs how to nextend root and home size
[08:15] <ikonia> t-mo: you hold down the keys BEFORE the OS boots
[08:15] <ikonia> santhosh: is your root on an LVM device ?
[08:15] <santhosh> no it is in pv partition
[08:16] <ikonia> santhosh: so you need to install it using LVM
[08:16] <santhosh> i don't know that one how to install lvm using root and home is there ant tools
[08:16] <ikonia> !lvm
[08:16] <t-mo> ikonia:  getting ubuntu to recognise a cd/dvd seems germane to ubuntu, no?
[08:17] <ikonia> t-mo: you boot a cd BEFORE the OS, so ubuntu isn't even booted at that point, it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:17] <gsommer> I've used apt to install the source for a package. I've fiddled with some changes, and - I would like to build a package WITHOUT commiting the code first (As I'm not sure this is the final patch). How do I do that? Or, how do I at-least test the code before commiting ?
[08:17] <ikonia> t-mo: you are trying to re-install macos X correct ?
[08:17] <ikonia> gsommer: commit it to where ?
[08:18] <gsommer> ikonia: To the local source tree
[08:18] <ikonia> gsommer: what local source tree ?
[08:18] <caodepalha> I everyone can i get some help with the jack configuration?
[08:18] <ikonia> gsommer: you download the source - change it, build it
[08:18] <blazemore> caodepalha: Try asking in #ubuntu-studio
[08:19] <caodepalha> ok. i never get replys there but i'll try :/
[08:19] <gsommer> ikonia: No, you use apt to get the source for the deb package. You make changes. You commit changes to the package structure. You compile and package it as a .deb package.
[08:19] <ikonia> gsommer: yes ? and....
[08:19] <blazemore> caodepalha: Also, if you ask a more specific question you might get a reply
[08:19] <gsommer> What I would like to do, is to TEST my changes, before commiting to the local changelog - how do I do that?
[08:19] <ikonia> gsommer: there is no "commit"
[08:19] <ikonia> gsommer: the source is just text files
[08:19] <ikonia> gsommer: so you have to make changes to those text files
[08:20] <gsommer> ikonia: Yes there is... Read the documentation regarding .deb packages..
[08:20] <ikonia> gsommer: ha ha ha ha, no there really isn't
[08:20] <t-mo> ikonia, your advice "you put the OSX disk in the mac, and boot from it and then install" would be more helpful if you could explain how to boot from said disk
[08:20] <gsommer> ikonia: Go read: http://pascal.nextrem.ch/2010/05/06/build-ubuntudebian-packages-from-source-and-apply-a-patch/
[08:20] <blazemore> gsommer: Sorry I think you're misunderstanding something
[08:20] <gsommer> blazemore: read: http://pascal.nextrem.ch/2010/05/06/build-ubuntudebian-packages-from-source-and-apply-a-patch/
[08:20] <ikonia> gsommer: I'm well aware of how to do it
[08:20] <blazemore> t-mo: That's a hardware issue really. I don't know how you boot your computer from a CD, and it's certainly nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:20] <ikonia> t-mo: as I've said the guys in #macosx can tell you the correct sequence to boot a cD
[08:20] <ejv> i don't read anything that ends in .ch, scary ^_^
[08:21] <gsommer> ikonia: Ok, then what does dpkg-source --commit do? It's _NEEDED_ before you can do a dpkg-buildpackage
[08:21] <caodepalha> I just need to know what values to put in the jack setup so i can get sound from my guitar
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> gsommer: all I can find is building binaries from deb source packages :(
[08:21] <ikonia> gsommer: I don't think you understand the process yet
[08:21] <t-mo> ok thank you
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> gsommer: you could download the source deb again, extract it to a location and compare the 2, if the file is different you could archive it
[08:21] <gsommer> ikonia: Uhhm, to be honest - I'm quire sure you don't have a clue...
[08:22] <blazemore> gsommer: Sorry but you're wrong here
[08:22] <sargennto> Hello all. I am having problems installing proprietary video drivers. If I run lspci command it tells me I have 'ATI Device 9900'. So I should be able to use the fgrlx drivers correct? When I reboot it tells me a screen cannot be found and Xserver will not start? Any clue?
[08:22] <ikonia> gsommer: no problem then, I'll leave you to wander blind
[08:22] <gsommer> blazemore: Ok, explain the procedure then
[08:22] <blazemore> gsommer: Build the software using ./configure; make or whatever
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: can you give the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a       please use a pastebin to hold the text.
[08:22] <gsommer> ikonia: Explain "dpkg-source --commit" please - which is needed before packing it up
[08:23] <ikonia> gsommer: I don't have a clue, just carry on
[08:23] <gsommer> blazemore: No, not if you want to use the specifik ubuntu/debian packages. You need to use the builtin compiling routines
[08:23] <blazemore> :3
[08:23] <ikonia> you've told me I don't have a clue.
[08:24] <gsommer> I want to use dpkg-buildpackage to build my testing debian package, but - I do not want my changes in my local changelog, as it might not be the final changes. How do I do that ?
[08:24] <blazemore> dpkg-buildpackage
[08:24] <ikonia> gsommer: is this on ubuntu or debian ?
[08:24] <gsommer> blazemore: Yes, that requires you to commit your changes BEFORE packing it up
[08:24] <gsommer> ikonia: Ubuntu
[08:25] <ikonia> perfect.
[08:25] <gsommer> I need to test my changes on another machine - therefor packing it up as a .deb package is the easiest way.
[08:26] <gsommer> It's quite easy with dpkg-buildpackage - which ensures the Ubuntu specific compiling routines are used. And the package is made in the exact same way as the original.
[08:27] <gsommer> But - if changes are made to the tree (local), dpkg-source --commit is needed to correctly adjust the buildin changelog in the .deb packages - and to split up a patch compared to the original provided source.
[08:27] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  http://pastebin.com/sdLb8v9H
[08:27] <gsommer> Now, I would like to skip the part about adding a entry in the changelog - and just go ahead and build a non-version controlled .deb package.
[08:27] <gsommer> How do I do that ?
[08:28] <gsommer> I basecly want to-write https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2012-August/msg06922.html as it's done in a wrong one-way binding... But, a little testing might be needed...
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: so its an ATI Radeon 9900 ?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: do you know what ATI GPU it is?
[08:33] <ejv> gsommer: i'd make a post on ubuntuforums personally
[08:33] <ejv> probably have better luck there, as it's sorta development related
[08:35] <gsommer> ejv: Yeah, you might be right... There's a lot of documentation about creating new packages. But, the documentation I've found regarding making changes to existing package - required the changes to be 100% correct the first time... The documentation lacks a section regarding just testing changes... :/
[08:35] <alfreddba> currently am using monit to monitoring remote server...now i want a centralized tool to monit all remote maschines...so which one i have to prefer...pls give some guidance..
[08:37] <f4cl3y> hello guys.
[08:37] <nic797> Hellooo
[08:38] <nic797> Fadi N.H Abu Snaineh
[08:38] <f4cl3y> I jsut have one silly question, is there a way to set the boot order for libvirt from virsh  "not using virt-manager"
[08:38] <f4cl3y> :D
[08:38] <nic797> You don like privacy? :D
[08:38] <blazemore> !ot > nic797
[08:39] <sargennto> okay iim back. got dc/d
[08:39] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  I think a problem could be that lspci says I have a different video card than I actually do
[08:39] <f4cl3y> anyone?
[08:40] <f4cl3y> nic797: "You don like privacy?", what do you mean?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: lspci reads the chips, so it is right
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> nic797: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[08:41] <nic797> ActionParsnip: No
[08:41] <nic797> f4cl3y: You filled out your real name in your IRC client
[08:42] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  okay my bad. It just said its a AMD 9900 device and my laptop documentation says its a Radeon HD 7660g
[08:42] <f4cl3y> nic797: I will conceal it next time ;)
[08:42] <vlt> Hello. I know how to configure "normal" ethernet devices (or something like usb0) in /etc/network/interfaces. Now I have a laptop with a wlan0 device I want to use. How to configure SSID, WPA2 mode and key?
[08:43] <blazemore> You can use network manager, vlt
[08:43] <Cyrax> ikonia: Did u mention to check something in bios?`
[08:43] <Cyrax> and enable it?
[08:44] <vlt> blazemore: no X server here. Is there a CLI tool?
[08:45] <Cyrax> Or who mentioned to me about checking bios and enable something?
[08:47] <sahil> what is the latest stable kernal for ubuntu 12.04?
[08:48] <Cyrax> ikonia: it was u who mentioned about something in the bios and enable something? i forgot
[08:49] <auronandace> Cyrax: virtualisation support
[08:50] <sahil> ?
[08:50] <cai__> ?
[08:50] <Cyrax> well.. i think i found it,but i have to know if its correct.. I checked bios by pressing F2.. and under Advanced->CPU configuration i saw something called Intel Virtualization Technology
[08:52] <Cyrax> it says disabled on it.. i try enable it adn see
[08:52] <ddssc> hey I'm copying files to a usb stick and afeter a while my system just decides the files on the stick are read only and I can't change permission or do anything with them. so I have to replug the stick to be able to copy files again. help
[08:53] <ddssc> everything works fine up until that point..
[08:53] <auronandace> Cyrax: that is the one
[08:54] <Cyrax> alright.. i try it.. b back soon again
[08:54] <failmaster> tried to get subscription for support but canonical says i should wait for 5 days until they will get in touch lol so just curious if i missed something trying to get support for cash or it's like it should be?
[08:56] <sahil> is linux kernal 3.9 "safe" for ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[08:57] <sahil> i mean free from regression and other compatibility issues
[08:58] <auronandace> sahil: the only supported kernels are those available in the default repos
 you mean the mainlne kernals?
[08:59] <mar77i> so... networkmanager keeps connecting to an inexistent network
[08:59] <sahil> mainline*
[08:59] <mar77i> how can I make it actually look for dhcp beyond setting ifupdown/managed=true
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: then the proprietary video driver should work
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> !ati | sargennto
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> sahil: you can install it but it will not be supported here if you get issues
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> sahil: some drivers which are present in your current kernel may not be in the 3.9 kernel. We have no way of knowing as the kernel is not from the Ubuntu repos
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: sudo dhclient3 eth0
[09:02] <mar77i> no
[09:03] <mar77i> ActionParsnip: the customer will not want ot type that into a terminal.
[09:03] <Cyrax> Now since i enabled it,lets see if it works now.. but i bet it won't
[09:03] <mar77i> hmm. so if nm doesn't look for ifupdown config, should I enable ifupdown or some other network service in upstart?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: why not?
[09:04] <mar77i> because the customer doesn't use the terminal.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: it will make the interface re-request DHCP....
[09:04] <Cyrax> Should i tick the box or not for downloading update while installing?
 i see...
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: its a simple command. Why don't they use terminal?
[09:04] <mar77i> ActionParsnip: because my boss told me so
[09:04] <blazemore> mar77i: Make a script and send it to them so they can double-click it
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: then your boss is a fool
[09:05] <mar77i> stop it
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: could use nm-applet to disable wired networking then re-enable wired networking
[09:05] <mar77i> it's actually one click to make the ifupdown config run in nm-applet
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: terminal is one of the most powerful tools in Linux
[09:05] <blazemore> mar77i: You've been given the answer tbh, it's up to you if you have weird political barriers between you and it
[09:05] <mar77i> i know
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> mar77i: i suggest you educaate him
[09:06] <mar77i> lol
 version 3.8 is available for ubuntu 13.04.... should i try that?
[09:06] <Cyrax> Should i tick the box for download updates while installing?
[09:06] <blazemore> Cyrax: Do you want to download updates while installing?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> sahil: up to you, but again, in ths channel we can only support the kernel for your release form the official epos
[09:07] <Cyrax> idk.. but is it recommended to tick the box?
[09:07] <mar77i> my question was why nm didn't look for the config it is given and end up with an ip in 192.168.0 range. it's one click to fix that, but I want to set it up right and save people that click every boot
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> sahil: why do you want to install a different kernel? Is the one you have now not running all your hardware?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: I don't suggest installing updates at install time. Just get the OS in. We can do updates on first boot
[09:08] <Cyrax> ok,thanks
 okey...i somewhere head that a newer kernal is going to be back ported to ubuntu 12.04 and might be released in august 22... so that will be "official" right? and it will be supported?
[09:08] <sahil> heard*
[09:09] <ikonia> sahil: why do you want a new kernel ?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> sahil: you can get the 3.5 kernel in Precise if you want
[09:09] <ikonia> this crazy obsession with people wanting kernels for no reason is just sily
[09:09] <ikonia> silly even
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> sahil: again, why do you want a new kernel?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: very silly
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> sahil: is all your hardware working ok?
[09:09] <k1l> sahil: you can get the 3.8 kernel in 12.04
[09:09] <blazemore> ikonia: But 3.9 is 0.1 better than 3.8...
[09:09] <ikonia> it's just crazy
[09:09] <k1l> sahil: just read about the kernel enablement stack
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: sadlym that is how ignorant people see it
[09:10] <ikonia> it's kicked off recently as a trend
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: later == better   :(
[09:10] <Cyrax> in the bottom right corner there r some symbols.. someone were talking about a v symbol..
[09:10] <ejv> if you're so concerned about 3.9, download it, compile it, run it.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> sahil: is all the stuff in your OS working as it should? yes or no?
 after following phoronix for sometime lately i did see last few kernals has got quite an attention from graphics card vendors and kernals got quite a many patches from them...i believe perhaps that might link to performance improvement as i do play games via wine
[09:11] <Cyrax> And the symbol V at the bottom right of virtualbox.. does that mean Virtualization?
[09:11] <ejv> sahil: there's a distribution called gentoo, where you can have all that bleeding edge kernel goodness
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> sahil: do the games run ok?
[09:11] <blazemore> sahil: or Arch
[09:12] <Itson> quit
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> ejv: oh thats all kinds of fun to install :)
[09:12] <ikonia> sahil: I'm sorry but unless there is something in the release notes that say "fixes performance problem for X" or "fixes problem with Y hardware" then it's not going to make a difference
[09:12] <ejv> ActionParsnip: takes like 15 minutes if you're experienced and have good hardware :)
[09:12] <ejv> in fact, there's a 3.10.6 gentoo-source available, all for you sahil
[09:12] <blazemore> Speak of the devil
 some do 3 out of 10 lol...still i feel proud when i some1 sees me "playin" windows game in linux
[09:13] <ikonia> sahil: feel proud ?? why
[09:13] <ikonia> sahil: play windows games in widows if you want supportability/stability
[09:13] <ikonia> wine is not a dependable solution
[09:13] <ikonia> it's a moving taget that is outside the control of most things
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> ejv: oh yeah but first time Gentoo install with the handbook on another system, takes a good while
...ubuntu has its own charms...i did use sabayon in yesteryers...but don geentoo
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> sahil: could try the xorg edgers update PPA (less fresh, more stable)
[09:14] <Cyrax> If there us a V symbol at the bottom right of the virtualbox.. What does that mean? sorry for asking so much
[09:14] <Cyrax> *is
[09:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: #vbox is the virtalbox support channel as I explained ealrier
[09:14] <ikonia> earlier
[09:14] <Cyrax> woops
windows= crapp...anyway i am not returning or buying windows 8...developers version was more den enuf to convince me ...-.-
  link plz..
[09:15] <ikonia> sahil: windows = the best platform for running windows based games
[09:16] <[Gentoo]> captain obvious
[09:16] <ejv> sahil: spare us your professional annotations, they are irrelevant, this is ubuntu support; let's get back to supporting ubuntu shall we?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> sahil: www.google.com   is a great link
 yes still...i am bit opensource fanboy :p
[09:16] <Xentinel> the ksoftirqd daemon is going crazy on my system, is there any way to tame that?
[09:16] <ikonia> sahil: that's stupid then allowing blind championing of something over the logical / better solution
[09:17] <pradnesh> sahil: ssup bhaiya?
[09:17] <ikonia> Xentinel: what do you mean going crazy
[09:17] <pradnesh> sahil: aap bhaiya hai?
[09:17] <GGYY> run chrome http://www.sikat.me
[09:17] <GGYY> http://www.sikat.me
[09:17] <FloodBot1> GGYY: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <Xentinel> ikonia, it's taking up like half the processing power, and has been for the past 10 hours I think
[09:18] <ikonia> Xentinel: thhats very odd,
[09:18] <ikonia> Xentinel: it's normally almost "dead"
[09:19] <ikonia> Xentinel: have a look at /proc/interupts is it going crazy ?
[09:19] <sargennto> Has anybody else had problems installing proprietary video drivers via the Additional Drivers screen? Like I assume these should be the correct drivers for my graphics device if Ubuntu reccomends them?
[09:19] <ikonia> sargennto: are you actually having a problem ?
[09:20] <sargennto> ikonia:  Yes.. If I choose to use 'AMD graphics accelerator from fglrx-updates (proprietary)' when I reboot my computer X will not start and says screen not found. Then I have to uninstall fglrx and reinstall the radeon driver
[09:21] <sargennto> for x to boo
[09:21] <ikoniasMoms3rdEy> <
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: I just install nvidia-current and reboot
[09:21] <sargennto> **boot sorry
[09:21] <ikoniasMoms3rdEy> <[09:21] <ikonia> ikoniasMoms3rdEy: please change that and grow up
[09:21] <Xentinel> ikonia, I'm not sure if it is, this is what it looks like http://pastebin.com/8sPGtZFL
[09:21] <ikoniasMoms3rdEy> ikonia: wait
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: what GPU do you have?
[09:21] <ikonia> ikonias3rdEye: this won't end well, please chnge it and grow up
[09:21] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  how do I find out?
[09:21] <Cyrax> VT-x/AMD-V: Enabled , Nested Paging: Enabled .. what does that mean?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: sudo lshw -C display
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: search the web and find out
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: you do realize, your computer is connected to the largest information database known to mankind
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: but you ask a handful of users in a chat room.....
[09:23] <[Gentoo]> sargennto: the open source radeon drivers are supposed to be more reliable
[09:23] <sargennto> [Gentoo]:  Unfortunately games under wine are telling me I do not meet system requirements. This did not happen until I tried installing fglrx and then having to remove it..
[09:24] <[Gentoo]> sargennto: they are better for 3d but i hear nothing but bad things about fglrx
[09:24] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  here is the pastebin output... http://pastebin.com/MQpk2Lrm << But my video card is a Radeon HD 7660G
[09:24] <petapetapeta> Hello. I seem to have an issue on my server which runs ubuntu. When I attempt to sudo I get the following message: sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so: No such file or directory
[09:24] <petapetapeta> sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins
[09:25] <sargennto> [Gentoo]:  any idea why when I had a fresh install GW2 installer would open. But after installing fglrx then having to remove it due to x not booting the GW2 installer now says I do not meet the system requirements?
[09:25] <atef> whtas going in :D
[09:25] <failmaster> http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone? =) for the last time ever
[09:26] <[Gentoo]> sargennto: do you get an error log on the console when x fails to boot?
[09:26] <[Gentoo]> like no screens found, module not loaded or whatever
[09:26] <sargennto> it says both of those
[09:26] <failmaster> grep EE
[09:27] <sargennto> [Gentoo]:  I dont know where to find the log but it does say screen not found and the modules not loaded stuff
[09:27] <Cyrax> i even enabled the Intel Virtualization,I made the video memory to 128,Memory size to 2048MB,file and location size to 10GB.. still i get into terminal only
[09:27] <failmaster> sargennto, /var/log/Xorg*.log
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: did you install the proprietary video driver?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: do you get the login screen?
[09:28] <ikonia> he's missing the vboxdriver
[09:28] <ikonia> for xorg
[09:28] <ikonia> the guest extension are not enabled
[09:28] <failmaster> Cyrax, you need guest-additions
[09:28] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  I am currently using the radeon driver. But I have installed the proprietary driver twice from the Additional Drivers screen and then X would not boot
[09:28] <failmaster> as i mentioned yesterday if i remember well
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: basic drivers are in a default install
[09:28] <ikonia> he's running the host on windows 2008 - and an ubuntu guest
[09:28] <Cyrax> how do i get it and how to i install it
[09:28] <[Gentoo]> you dont need the guest additions to get x in vbox
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: did you run the command to generate xorg.conf as per the !ati how-to?
[09:29] <ikonia> Cyrax: #vbox is the channel to explain how to setup virtal box
[09:29] <failmaster> Cyrax, look through official documentation of virtualbox to find out, it's really easy to reach
[09:29] <ikonia> Cyrax: you're running it on a windows host - you need to first set the host up correctly.
[09:29] <[Gentoo]> sargennto: yes it sounds like xorg.conf isnt configured, proprietary drivers normally need one generated
[09:29] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: it's not that he's missing the video card device and the kernel module needed.
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[09:30] <failmaster> sargennto, `cat /var/log/Xorg*.log|grep EE` and bring it here via pastebin
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: also ask in #vbox   they may know a thing or three
[09:30] <ikonia> vboxvideo is not installed
[09:30] <sargennto> failmaster:  okay
[09:30] <ikonia> so it complains that /dev/dri/card0 is not found (because udev doesn't create it)
[09:31] <Cyrax> i did ask.. al they said was setup run
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: as ikonia says, you may have to install the guest additions in that terminal. If you use the menu at the top of the session, you can kick off the download. Then set the ISO to mount at boot and run the installer
[09:31] <sargennto> failmaster:  http://pastebin.com/Jr7DLeVz
[09:31] <failmaster> he doesn't even try lol
[09:31] <Cyrax> i AM trying.. i just dont know how :s
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: http://media.bestofmicro.com/linux-xp-virtualbox,X-Z-225431-13.png
[09:32] <failmaster> sargennto, apt-get install fglrx
[09:33] <sargennto> failmaster:   and then generate xorg.conf?
[09:34] <blazemore>  sargennto aticonfig --intital
[09:34] <failmaster> sargennto, i never used to buy radeon cards but if it says it can do it - try accept this option however i would real about it in google, but most probably it will be fine
[09:34] <failmaster> read*
[09:34] <Cyrax> ActionParsnip: I found this guest thing on the photo.. but when i did,i got this: http://puu.sh/40TNg.png
[09:34] <sargennto> blazemore:  failmaster: okay
[09:35] <failmaster> Cyrax, did you open official virtualbox documentation which refers to guest-additions?
[09:35] <Cyrax> No
[09:35] <ikonia> Cyrax: you please please please need to read the basic documents about using vbox
[09:35] <ikonia> Cyrax: this is getting tedious
[09:35] <failmaster> Cyrax, that's why you don't even try
[09:35] <ikonia> Cyrax: you've been asked 3 - 4 times to read the basics about setting up virtual box on your host and you ignore it and keep asking the same question over and over
[09:36] <ikonia> Cyrax: this channel is for ubuntu support - fixing ubuntu issues, your lack of ability to use virtual box on windows 8 is nothing to do with this channel - so please stop asking
[09:36] <ikonia> we've been pretty patient but you refuse to read the basic setup info, so now we have to draw a line
[09:37] <Cyrax> I will stop.. sorry then
[09:37] <failmaster> sounds so flawless, ubuntu support lol
[09:38] <ikonia> failmaster: I'm sorry what ?
[09:38] <sargennto> okay well Im gonna reboot.. wish me well. If im not back soon to let you know it worked it means im trying to get X to start again :(
[09:38] <failmaster> just another stupid sarcastic remark about getting support here
[09:38] <Cyrax> I wont ask again
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: also, ask in #vbox
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: they may know some options for Ubuntu to make things fly
[09:39] <ikonia> failmaster: I think you need to stop - you're getting tedious with these comments, people get good support in here,and I'm a bit tired of you putting it down
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: you will need the guest additios
[09:39] <failmaster> ikonia, i'm done with hanging around so i don't really care to listen for your recommendations lol
[09:39] <ikonia> failmaster: ok, the /part the channel
[09:39] <failmaster> i never got any support from here
[09:39] <Cyrax> i heard u said that.. and i asked where do I download it nad how to install it
[09:39] <failmaster> i will when i'll consider it's time to
[09:39] <blazemore> failmaster: /part
[09:40] <failmaster> same
[09:40] <failmaster> why not lol
[09:40] <blazemore> Cyrax: Could you sum up your question in one line for me?
[09:41] <Cyrax> o.o
[09:41] <heresjohnny> your mum
[09:42] <Cyrax> like they said i need this guest thing.., and i asked where i could download or isntall it
[09:42] <Cyrax> thats all
[09:42] <blazemore> Cyrax: Did the instructions in the documentation not work?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax: the screenshot I gave will pull it down
[09:43] <Cyrax> I know now where.. problem is i got this when i clicked it: http://puu.sh/40TNg.png
[09:43] <blazemore> Cyrax: That's completely unrelated issue to Ubuntu, you're having problems with Virtualbox on Windows
[09:44] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there any functional difference between Ubuntu LTS and Debian Testing other than Ubuntu branded software?
[09:44] <blazemore> CountryfiedLinux: Different repositories, package versions
[09:44] <sargennto> Well that seems to have fixed it. I know this might not be able to be something you guys can help with. But when I had a fresh install of ubuntu I could run the guild wars 2 installer via wine. But ever since I switched drivers back and forth it tells me I do not meet system requirements when trying to open the GW2 installer. fglrx is currently installed and I am still getting that message and I did not on a fresh install
[09:44] <blazemore> CountryfiedLinux: Different kernel configs, so different hardware support
[09:45] <k1l> CountryfiedLinux: there is alot. starting by kernel patches and going to different packages
[09:45] <CountryfiedLinux> blazemore: So there's actual improvements made by canonical?
[09:45] <CountryfiedLinux> blazemore: I had the impression they just put it out there with some branded software added.
[09:45] <blazemore> CountryfiedLinux: Not since 2005
[09:46] <Akishona> cyrax; if you need to download guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.2.16/
[09:46] <blazemore> !ot | if you want to chat about it
[09:46] <CountryfiedLinux> blazemore: So a user would be better off using Ubuntu LTS rather than Debian Testing then.
[09:46] <blazemore> CountryfiedLinux: Well that's a matter of opinion really
[09:47] <blazemore> CountryfiedLinux: In my opinion, yes, and we use Ubuntu LTS at work
[09:47] <CountryfiedLinux> blazemore: What about a matter of stability?
[09:47] <k1l> CountryfiedLinux: you know the purpose of debian testing? and the purpose of ubuntu LTS?
[09:48] <CountryfiedLinux> blazemore: Oh ok cool. I know at Satellite Med here in town they have Ubuntu on their PCs that patients sign in on. You can't usually tell but when its woken up from suspend or sleep whatever it is, you can see the Ubuntu logo splash come up. Other than that the web browser is in fullscreen so you can't really see anything besides the web page.
[09:49] <CountryfiedLinux> k11 Kinda, I just didn't realize there were actual improvements made to Testing from the Canonical side.
[09:51] <Skizu> Hey I've got ubuntu 12.04.1 just installed and looking to update my PHP version to 5.4+ at the moment I've 5.3.10
[09:51] <sahil> hello again....i have a scanner which doesnot have linux driver(hp scanjet 4890) will wine or virtualbox do any help?
[09:52] <blazemore> Skizu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:52] <Cyrax> i jsut want to thank you all for trying to help me..
[09:52] <sahil> os:ubuntu 12.04
[09:52] <blazemore> sahil: You could install Windows in Virtualbox, which will support your scanner
[09:53] <blazemore> Skizu: It's now on 5.5 and also includes Apache 2.4 update
[09:53] <sahil> okey thnx...
[09:53] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  blazemore, [Gentoo], failmaster: thank you all. everything working as I needed it to now :) I wish I could give yall a big hug
  thnx
[09:54] <Skizu> blazemore even better thanks
[09:54] <blazemore> Good sargennto :)
[09:54] <[Gentoo]> sargennto: what did you end up doing? installing fglrx and doing xorg.conf?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> sahil: possibly, usb access from vbox is pretty decent. Seems the model is not supported by sane
[09:55] <sargennto> [Gentoo]:  yeah installing fglrx and then runing the aticonfig --initial
[09:55] <[Gentoo]> ok
[09:56] <sargennto> thanks again :)
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> sahil: could check the same site, see if support has been added recently
ya..its lying dead next to me ever since i switched to linux...
[09:56] <punter> May I use dh_make to create the boilerplate for my debian/ directory?
[09:56] <punter> Or is that debian-only?
[09:56] <Skizu> ubuntu is a fine os to run a lamp server on right?
[09:56] <cowbacon> Skizu: ofc it is
[09:56] <ikonia> Skizu: no problems
[09:57] <blazemore> Skizu: Yes, I use it
[09:57] <k1l> !lamp | Skizu
 5 months back it wasnt added..will check again though
[09:57] <cowbacon> Skizu: as good as any other :) but if you plan on just using it as a server and not a desktop i'd recommend the server edition so you won't waste resources on things you dont need, like a WM/DE, sound etc
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> sahil: http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/hp-scanjet-4850.html
[09:58] <Skizu> I know what it stands for just wanted to make sure ubuntu was acceptable :) I'm new to setting up php and *nix all together, but can do PHP so hey ho lol
[09:59] <pozori> what would be the best way to erase data on hdd with fedora live?
[09:59] <ikonia> pozori: ask in #fedora
[09:59] <Skizu> cowbacon got server edition, no GUI needed :)
[10:00] <blazemore> pozori: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX