[18:38] <nicomachus> eduardo: what type of VPN connection is it? OpenVPN or PPTP?
[18:39] <eduardo> nicomachus openvpn  i need the server address, user and password and thats it in windows.... some other guy told me to take a certificate or something like that...
[18:40] <nicomachus> yea you'll need a cert. Is it a commercial service like PIA?
[18:40] <eduardo> nicomachus but i dont have it, no its my university cluster or computer which allows students to enter from home
[18:41] <nicomachus> ah. Do they have instruction on their website? They should have a .ca certificate file for you to download
[18:41] <float> Do you not own a .ovpn file?
[18:42] <eduardo> nicomachus http://ibin.co/24INV3jhtFR3 here you can get a tutorial for windows very easy, ive done in windows 10.. just create new vpn connection, add server address, user and password and it creates new connection...
[18:43] <nicomachus> FYI for everyone else: that's a download
[18:43] <eduardo> thats all the information we got from our teacher... and its strange that windows dont need anything certificate
[18:43] <nicomachus> ugh, this is portuguese isn't it?
[18:43] <eduardo> no spanish, but you only have to see the images very very easy....
[18:44] <nicomachus> oh idk why I thought portugese. I have enough spanish to comprehend it.
[18:44] <eduardo> in windows 10 even more, you go to net settings, vpn, create vpn connection, put the address tunelsalu.udl.cat, user and password and thats it...
[18:45] <OerHeks> eduardo, maybe this howto clears things up http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/establish-openvpn-connection-ubuntu-1404/
[18:46] <OerHeks> you do need a crt, but once added, there should be no problem
[18:46] <nicomachus> OerHeks: he might have to request that from the school, you think?
[18:46] <eduardo> OerHeks thats exactly the problem, i dont have any certificate
[18:47] <eduardo> in windows is so easy, and using filezilla to push and put files through sftp.. . dont understand why ubuntu needs a certificate ....
[18:47] <OerHeks> eduardo, an VPN without certificate, only name/password ?
[18:48] <BuFF> hi, is there some sort of specific configuration for smokeping to draw graphs v2.6.8-2?
[18:49] <nicomachus> ok, well if anyone wants to help me out, I'm experiencing this error: https://askubuntu.com/questions/567730/gave-up-waiting-for-root-device-ubuntu-vg-root-doesnt-exist
[18:49] <eduardo> OerHeks yes and address server... in fact in vpn connection you can choose the user password login.. if you have any windows you can try it
[18:50] <nicomachus> this is after fixing a grub issue, where grub was trying to boot the wrong kernel (grub config listed 3.13 instead of 3.19, which was installed)
[18:50] <PCatinean> Hey guys
[18:50] <nicomachus> so I'm not sure how, but I somehow crippled LVM
[18:51] <PCatinean> I am in the live bootable usb stick of the latest ubuntu downloaded and when I click install and next it just freezez
[18:51] <PCatinean> doesn't do anything
[18:51] <PCatinean> Stuck at preparing to install buntu
[18:51] <PCatinean> After I clicked Download updates while installing and install 3rd party software
[18:51] <PCatinean> What should I make of this?
[18:53] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: 2 things to check ; verify the .iso and the burn integrity, & make sure there is space on the hard drive for ubuntu ( a max of 4 primary partitions with MBR ) .
[18:54] <ObrienDave> PCatinean, don't DL updates while installing
[18:54] <eduardo> Any ideas ??
[18:54] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, I have windows installed on the ssd and I left 60 gb for the SSD and unpartitioned space
[18:54] <PCatinean> Now I just booted from the usb-drive after downloading it the second time and writing to it again
[18:54] <PCatinean> and it's still stuck there
[18:55] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: OK, then IF the burn is good, then you are looking to use the install option " something else " to point the installer to the unallocated space . ( still can have only 4 primary partitions! ) .
[18:55] <nicomachus> PCatinean: are you formatting that USB fresh each time you re-burn it?
[18:55] <PCatinean> I didn't get to that point
[18:56] <PCatinean> nicomachus, yes I am
[18:56] <nicomachus> ok good
[18:56] <PCatinean> With the pendrive app, that auto-formats to fat32
[18:56] <PCatinean> AHA! it passed :D
[18:56] <PCatinean> Should I pick the Install ubuntu alongside Windows Boot Manager?
[18:56] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, the first option would not be good?
[18:57] <PCatinean> Not sure if I can create the partitions and do it myself properly
[18:57] <crafty__> ive done the guides to getting flash plugins into firefox yet every site still says i need flash any ideas?
[18:57] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Now that you have made the unallocated space, no, do not choose "install along side" .
[18:58] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, what would have been the other option? :(
[18:58] <PCatinean> It's the only unallocated space there
[18:58] <PCatinean> Shouldn't it just use that and create the partitions itself properly?
[18:58] <xangua> crafty__: are this sites with DRM content¿
[18:58] <YvesLevier> I got dealth menaces - this is a 188 Megs im triying to send it to another.  Im having no credit card.
[18:58] <YvesLevier> How plz?
[18:59] <YvesLevier> it got all proves on a phone - imean mp4
[18:59] <YvesLevier> ready to send
[18:59] <ObrienDave> YvesLevier, what?
[19:00] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: How about we tale a look at the partitioning on the hard drive before we proceed ? From the liveUSB -> try ubuntu -> desktop -> key combo ctl+alt+t to get a terminal. Terminal command ' sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit ' and pas back the resulting UEL . we see what we are working with .
[19:00] <nicomachus> ObrienDave: it's a spammer.
[19:00] <nicomachus> spammer/bot
[19:00] <ObrienDave> nicomachus, nah, really? please tell me you're kidding, right?
[19:00] <YvesLevier> Im not and you know me
[19:00] <crafty__> i have flash installed into ubuntu mate om raspberry pi2 yet every site still says i need adobe flash any ideas?
[19:00] <YvesLevier> 283 Megs to send to som1
[19:01] <YvesLevier> U14.04
[19:01] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, you're such a professional like a paid support system, I really apreciate you taking the time like this to help random people :)
[19:01]  * PCatinean does
[19:01] <xangua> (13:58:48) xangua: crafty__: are this sites with DRM content¿
[19:02] <PCatinean> http://hastebin.com/yoyoromopo.vhdl
[19:02] <crafty__> yes like spotify
[19:02] <YvesLevier> PCatinean: Trying this
[19:04] <k1l_> YvesLevier: stick to ubuntu support in here, please. you know the !guidelines
[19:04] <OerHeks> crafty__, use chrome for flash-drm-sites
[19:04] <PCatinean> tryin what precisely
[19:04] <YvesLevier> k1l_: Where is the problem?
[19:04] <crafty__> thanks ill give that a try next
[19:05] <ObrienDave> YvesLevier, other than you being an idiot?
[19:05] <YvesLevier> Im a idiot
[19:05] <k1l_> ObrienDave: no need to calling names.
[19:05] <YvesLevier> trying to get help
[19:05] <ObrienDave> k1l_, yes, my apologies
[19:06] <YvesLevier> for U14.04
[19:06] <k1l_> YvesLevier: this is a ubuntu support channel. keep it clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[19:06] <YvesLevier> That is i was looking for
[19:06] <k1l_> YvesLevier: so what is your ubuntu issue?
[19:06] <nicomachus> alright, I tried to do 'dpkg-reconfigure lvm2' and got an error that says "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for encrypted_volume'
[19:06] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, how do you think I should proceed?
[19:06] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Hey, I too am on that learning curve, We all are at some point. I help where I can becuase. I be look;s at your http://hastebin.com/yoyoromopo.vhdl .
[19:07] <nicomachus> but I can't get /etc/crypttab to open in gedit for some reason
[19:07] <YvesLevier> to send a  283Mbyte file to somebody
[19:07] <PCatinean> I clicked something else
[19:07] <YvesLevier> is my issue
[19:07] <YvesLevier> sorry for my poor english
[19:08] <YvesLevier> Am I at the wrong place?
[19:08] <OerHeks> YvesLevier, find a filesharing service, like dropbox 5 gb free
[19:08] <k1l_> YvesLevier: use scp, sftp, or start a webserver and get that other one the url or or or. or use some of the webservices or oneclick hosters.
[19:08] <YvesLevier> OerHeks: thanks
[19:09] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Rather than MBR (old) you have the better GPT partioning scheme. Still will not hurt to look at the present partitioning ' sudo parted -l | pastebinit ' . and then we can discuss what your options are.
[19:10] <nicomachus> ok I got crypttab open but I"m not sure which line doesn't belong
[19:10] <diegoviola> hi
[19:10] <PCatinean> hmm, I wonder why I do not have the mbr, maybe it's because i started both in UEFI but not sure if that makes a difference
[19:10] <diegoviola> how do I install the *latest* version of chromium?
[19:10] <diegoviola> chromium 43
[19:11] <diegoviola> I know there's an older version in the repos
[19:11] <diegoviola> but I want latest
[19:11] <PCatinean> http://hastebin.com/hobahabebo.rb
[19:11] <k1l_> diegoviola: which ubuntu version?
[19:11] <diegoviola> k1l_: 15.04
[19:11] <PCatinean> @Bashing-om
[19:11] <diegoviola> also, how do I install the flash plugin for chromium?
[19:11] <Resprove> i am going to redo my pc. in the installation when choosing the option to replace my current ubuntu, will it remove everything in this partition?
[19:11] <OerHeks> PCatinean, did you see the UEFI manual ?
[19:12] <Samul`> I'm following this tutorial http://isse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Linux_Developer
[19:12] <OerHeks> !uefi
[19:12] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: MBR is old stuf, the GPT (That UEFI uses ) is the better thing .
[19:12] <Samul`> when I get to build instructions and I run make
[19:12] <k1l_> diegoviola: ubuntu ships the latest chromium in the repos
[19:12] <Samul`> I get this output http://pastebin.com/FRLii8tD
[19:12] <diegoviola> k1l_: ok
[19:12] <PCatinean> OerHeks, unfortunately not, or I did read long time ago and I forgot
[19:12] <Samul`> please could anyone help me?
[19:12] <nicomachus> paste.ubuntu.com/11632354/ is the contents of crypttab
[19:12] <diegoviola> k1l_: but the version I got from the repos is not the latest one
[19:12] <k1l_> diegoviola: so if you run the updates, you have already the latest one
[19:12] <nicomachus> Resprove: yes.
[19:14] <OerHeks> Samul`, old project, 2013, and only tested on Fedora
[19:15] <tristian> new to ubuntu
[19:15] <Samul`> so no chance to get it work?
[19:15] <tristian> need help with a plugin in gimp
[19:15] <tristian> can anyone help
[19:15] <tristian> need for work
[19:16] <PCatinean> What would be the next step now?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> tristian  there's also #gimp
[19:17] <tristian> i have read every forum
[19:17] <slacko> hi guys ( and girls)...is someone here using ubuntu + firefox ?
[19:17] <tristian> yes
[19:17] <nicomachus> yes
[19:17] <float> I am.
[19:17] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Look at what we are working with, ' sudo parted -l | pastebinit ' and will also be good to see a screenshot of GParted's display of the target install drive  .
[19:18] <Etem> slacko, me too
[19:18] <tristian> gimp for pictures
[19:18] <PCatinean> I did paste that no? http://hastebin.com/hobahabebo.rb
[19:18] <tristian> i cant install the bimp plugin
[19:19] <nicomachus> tristian: did you try #gimp?
[19:19] <tristian> yes
[19:19] <tristian> the plugin is missing still
[19:19] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Yeah, you did, sorry I missed it . ( did you address 'me' ? )
[19:19] <slacko> then can I ask you if you noticed firefox getting slow when you have many (5+) tabs open? By slow I mean slow scrolling and general slow response...
[19:20] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, http://i.imgur.com/q1FhZha.png
[19:20] <PCatinean> Sorry maybe I forgot, my bad
[19:20] <nicomachus> slacko: that's likely a RAM issue, in my experience. how much RAM does your machine have?
[19:20] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, and the second: http://imgur.com/q1FhZha,bdngAPv#1
[19:20] <tristian> when i do make &&  no target make files
[19:21] <slacko> nicomachus: I ruled that out, I have 4GB ram, it is not using swap I would notice that
[19:21] <slacko> it is using processor too much
[19:21] <ObrienDave> having 5 tabs open is not a clue? ROFL
[19:21] <slacko> I must say that same firefox wersion in windows is running smoothly even with riddicolous amouns of tabs open
[19:22] <nicomachus> slacko: this isn't really ubuntu specific, I don't think. Have you watched your RAM and CPU usage progress as you load on more resources?
[19:22] <tristian> does anyone know how to get my plugin to run
[19:22] <slacko> it is linux specific
[19:22] <slacko> yes I have...firefox isn;t using that much ram IMHO max 1.5 GB
[19:23] <nicomachus> and what is the CPU at?
[19:23] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, does that help?
[19:23] <nicomachus> 70-80+?
[19:23]  * ObrienDave shakes head and saunters on down the road
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> slacko  firefox is very resource-hungry... i cannot use it in combination with a virtual machine
[19:24] <nicomachus> most browsers are nowadays, unfortunately.
[19:24] <ikonia> slacko: are you actually using ubuntu, or slacko puppy linux
[19:24] <ikonia> (with the ubuntu packages)
[19:24] <slacko> I am using ubuntu 15.04 64 bit
[19:24] <float> I was actually quite impressed with microsoft Edge.
[19:24] <float> or Project Spartan, whatever.
[19:24] <ikonia> ok, it's not one of the puppy spins with ubuntu packages
[19:25] <slacko> and have 2.4 GB memory free, 90% idle proc. time...
[19:25] <ikonia> slacko: so that seems there are no resource problems
[19:25] <tristian> please can anyone point me in the correct direction
[19:25] <float> What's up, tristian?
[19:25] <slacko> excactly
[19:25] <PCatinean> http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[19:26] <PCatinean> this look complicated, can anyone help?
[19:26] <float> Can you try chromium?
[19:26] <ikonia> tristian: you shouldn't blindly do make &&
[19:26] <ikonia> slacko: so what is the actual problem then ?
[19:26] <eduardo>  need help connecting to a vpn network... when i create a vpn connection it appears gray the button of saving the new connection.. in windows ive no problem....
[19:26] <tristian> having issues with GIMP plugin i need for work
[19:26] <float> Ahhh
[19:26] <tristian> BIMP will not compile
[19:27] <tristian> got it
[19:27] <ikonia> you'll need to explain more than "won't compile"
[19:27] <tristian> sorry
[19:27] <tristian> can i copy wat is in my terminal
[19:27] <ikonia> use a pastebin
[19:27] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Look'n good, As you have set aside unallocated space, in the installer choose 'something else' . In the installer click on that unallocated space to point the installer . Make sure that grub ( ubuntu's bootloader ) is to be installed to 'sda' .
[19:27] <slacko> ikonia: on some pages firefox  in ubuntu is lagging while many tabs open, like this one(http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com/l/455/MediaTek-MT6582M) ... and I have to point out that if I open another private browser window with this same page, it is smooth
[19:27] <tristian> where is paste pin
[19:27] <tristian> bin
[19:28] <PCatinean> and after I click on the unallocated space then what?
[19:28] <slacko> chromium is ok but it takes too much ram for my liking
[19:28] <PCatinean> Don't I create a swap are or something Bashing-om?
[19:28] <ikonia> !pastbin | tristian
[19:29] <ikonia> !pastebin | tristian
[19:29] <k1l_> slacko: ram is there to be used. i would start thinking about it, if provesses get killed because of too less ram
[19:29] <ikonia> slacko: could you define lagging please
[19:30] <__Myst__> Hello!
[19:30] <Samul`> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libasound2-dev/download I need to install this but it says that dependency cannot be satisfied (libasound2 =<IP_ADDRESS>-3ubuntu7)
[19:30] <Samul`> I think I have a more recent version
[19:30] <__Myst__> I'm the guy from before, but under a different nickname.
[19:30] <Samul`> how can I address this?
[19:30] <__Myst__> I was wondering if this was a valid way to install i3 on Ubuntu 14.04.02
[19:30] <__Myst__> http://walther.io/how-to-replace-unity-with-i3-window-manager-on-ubuntu-1204/
[19:30] <ikonia> slacko: you're not using trusty
[19:30] <ikonia> slacko: sorry, not you
[19:30] <slacko> ikonia: when I scroll down or up it is not smooth
[19:30] <ikonia> Samul`: you're not using trusty
[19:30] <Samul`> oh right
[19:30] <ikonia> Samul`: so don't install packages from the wrong version
[19:30] <ikonia> Samul`: in the same way don't install bad PPA packages
[19:31] <tristian> done
[19:31] <k1l_> slacko: seems like a bad website. that is not scrolling smooth on my firefox too. and i have a i7 with 8gb ram.
[19:31] <ikonia> this is why your machine is a mess
[19:31] <ikonia> slacko: thats seems to be a little sluggish in safari on a pretty high spec mac too
[19:31] <ikonia> slacko: looks like odd caching on that page, once it's fully loaded it's ok
[19:31] <ikonia> but it loads content as it scrolls
[19:31] <slacko> k1l_: but this website is ok if I have it open in private window in firefox...
[19:31] <slacko> try it
[19:32] <k1l_> slacko: that is a website issue, imho
[19:32] <tristian> aft i paste to bin then what
[19:32] <ikonia> slacko: if you open it in another non-private browser is it slow ?
[19:32] <__Myst__> histo ain't here anymore?
[19:32] <ikonia> slacko: eg: another tab
[19:32] <slacko> ikonia: but even google results page is not smoth like on windows...
[19:32] <slacko> *smooth
[19:32] <ikonia> slacko: ok are any pages good ?
[19:33] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Your are making this more difficult than it is " from ypir reference, as you have the unallocated space, you are at " 2. Manually setting up the partition layout for Ubuntu " . The guide is good .
[19:33] <Bashing-om> your*
[19:33] <tristian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11632623/
[19:33] <PCatinean> which guide Bashing-om?
[19:33] <PCatinean> I'm not sure how much size to set on the swap space, when to set it (first/last)
[19:34] <ikonia> tristian: as I told you don't blindly type make && make install
[19:34] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Our reference from you : http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation .
[19:34] <tristian> so what do i put
[19:34] <tristian> i have no clue following a forum tutorial
[19:34] <ikonia> tristian: what do the documents tell you to do ?
[19:34] <slacko> ikonia: so that same page on chromium apter is loads is nice and smooth
[19:35] <tristian> blindly type the make &&
[19:35] <ikonia> tristian: what is the output of the command "pwd"
[19:35] <Johnny_Linux> slacko  enable smooth in prefs
[19:35] <ikonia> slacko: seems very odd
[19:35] <Johnny_Linux> pref/advance
[19:35] <PCatinean> Ok then I will use that, hope it works out okay and I don't break anything
[19:35] <PCatinean> Set swap size more than physical memory, so more than 8gb of RAM that I have?
[19:36] <PCatinean> And do I have to create a separate partition for /home?
[19:36] <slacko> ikonia: on windows + firefox all is ok, fast as to be expected
[19:36] <tristian> /home/tristian
[19:36] <PCatinean> That's why I'm confused because I don't know if I should
[19:36] <Dumle29> Hey there. I have some trouble with my NAS which is mounted on my computer via NFS. It used to work, but now it keeps saying "Error creating directory: Permission denied" on the mounted share.
[19:36] <Dumle29> It seems it's because it's mounted as root, but even "sudo cp ~/downloads/file /media/nas/files/file" works
[19:36] <PCatinean> I mean, not sure where the advantage is
[19:36] <ikonia> slacko: I'm wondering if it's the re-draw rather than firefox
[19:36] <Dumle29> s/works/doesn't work
[19:37] <Dumle29> ***.***.***.***:/volume1/ /media/nas nfs auto 0 0
[19:37] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: I always for my usecase set up my partitons before hand, But I think the installer if you accept it's defaults will set up all partions for you. However, In the long run it is best to do the partitioning yourself as then you can set up a separate /home partiton that is very useful in the future .
[19:38] <PCatinean> why is it very useful in the future?
[19:38] <PCatinean> I don't get it
[19:38] <slacko> ikonia: is anyone here that is having the same issue? maybe it's problem with graphics driver
[19:38] <Johnny_Linux> maybe
[19:38] <ikonia> slacko: thats why I was wondering about the redraw
[19:38] <PCatinean> still not sure what to do, how to partition the space, how much to allocate blabla
[19:39] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Truthfully, there is less chance of "something going wrong" doing the install manually, as there is currently a bug that sometimes crops up in some situations that wipes out the Windows install when "install along side".
[19:40] <OerHeks> PCatinean, let ubuntu installer fill in the partitioning in your free space, after install look back at it to see what it does and find out why.
[19:40] <diegoviola> do you guys use ubuntu as your only OS?
[19:40] <slacko> ikonia: well I just noticed that it is smooth again, on most webpages at least, google results page is ok now
[19:40] <PCatinean> OerHeks, and how do I do that?
[19:40] <PCatinean> How do I let ubuntu fill in the partitioning in my free space?
[19:40] <ikonia> slacko: the fact that it is not consistent is interesting
[19:40] <harishkrupo> diegoviola, no
[19:40] <diegoviola> harishkrupo: what other os do you use
[19:41] <slacko> ikonia: mabe opening chromium fixed it, idk...
[19:41] <harishkrupo> diegoviola, arch, Windows(very rarely)
[19:41] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: - If you do not adress me, I may not catch ypur entries - we will continue this discussion -
[19:41] <diegoviola> I also run arch
[19:41] <ikonia> slacko: that would be very unlikley
[19:41] <Bashing-om> !tab | PCatinean
[19:41] <harishkrupo> Windows only for gaming
[19:42] <jaydik> Weird question that probably doesn´t happen to anyone but me:
[19:42] <OerHeks> PCatinean, use the side-by-side option, ubuntu will detect free space
[19:43] <slacko> ikonia: I closed chromium and firefox is still ok, only that 1 page is slow as always was...but opening it in private session fixes it which is baffling
[19:43] <jaydik> Dual booting win/ubuntu. Every time I restart, the keyboard doesn´t work on grub, but when I restart again (from grub), it works
[19:43] <jaydik> clockwork, every second boot
[19:43] <ikonia> slacko: if you open two tabs in firefox (not private) is it any better ?
[19:44] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: The use case for a separate /home . Better management of disk space, and the advantage to save all your files intact when upgrading to the next release .
[19:44] <melvin> heey guys, anyone any knowledge about apache2 server permission @filelocation /var/www/??
[19:44] <ikonia> melvin: just ask the question
[19:44] <ikonia> or use #httpd
[19:44] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, so should I do that or as OerHeks suggests?
[19:44] <melvin> how can i change the permissions of the files @ /var/www/html
[19:44] <__Myst__> What is the package "sur5r-keyring"?
[19:44] <__Myst__> What is the package "sur5r-keyring"?
[19:44] <ikonia> what do you mean, what is it /
[19:44] <melvin> i tryd: chmod -R 777 /var/www/html/
[19:45] <__Myst__> ikonia: What does it od?
[19:45] <harishkrupo> melvin, sudo chmod -R <permissions> /var/www/html
[19:45] <ikonia> melvin: thats very bad
[19:45] <PCatinean> setting up manually 16gb of swap space, 40gb for system and the rest for home (4gb)?
[19:45] <PCatinean> Because I don't know
[19:45] <__Myst__> Ho shit
[19:45] <__Myst__> 16gb?
[19:45] <__Myst__> Isn't 512mb enough?
[19:45] <ikonia> __Myst__: looks like a keyring extension
[19:45] <ikonia> __Myst__: don't swear please, there is no need
[19:45] <PCatinean> OerHeks, a lot of tutorials suggest using manual partitioning for some reason, why's that?
[19:45] <melvin> Goddam i was so close! but thanks harishkrupo !!
[19:46] <melvin> i got it now <3
[19:46] <teward> __Myst__: don't swear.  It looks like a keyring extension.  Try looking at the output of `apt-cache show sur5r-keyring` (without the backticks) to see what it describes the package as
[19:47] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: I always advise a bew user to take the easy way out as OerHeks and I have advised. Let the installer do the default. When you do know better then you can repartition to suit your use case . It is your system, up to you what you want to do, we can only advise and help with what you decide.
[19:47] <harishkrupo> jaydik, does is happen when you restart from windows and ubuntu?
[19:47] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, so I can pick the install ubuntu alongisde windows option?
[19:48] <PCatinean> without any bad consequences and just let the default options instead of making them manually?
[19:48] <ikonia> PCatinean: you've allocated a huge ammount of swap
[19:48] <jaydik> either direction
[19:48] <ikonia> PCatinean: do you really need that much ?
[19:48] <PCatinean> ikonia, not yet though, I have 8gb of ram
[19:48] <ikonia> PCatinean: you will never need 16GB of swap
[19:48] <harishkrupo> jaydik, really wierd
[19:49] <tristian> connection dropped
[19:49] <harishkrupo> weird*
[19:49] <jaydik> super weird
[19:49] <PCatinean> ikonia, then just 8?
[19:49] <ikonia> PCatinean: why do you think you need 16GB of swap
[19:49] <jaydik> doesnt stop me from using it
[19:49] <jaydik> just odd
[19:49] <slacko> ikonia: I closed al tabs, restarted firefox and opened that page(http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com/l/455/MediaTek-MT6582M ) and it is still slow...only in private brovsing is it fast :/
[19:49] <tristian> still seeking help with GIMP plugin
[19:49] <ikonia> PCatinean: why do you think you ned 8 ?
[19:49] <PCatinean> I don't think so, I even doubt I will ever use it
[19:49] <harishkrupo> but you got to restart everytime
[19:49] <charginghawk> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 from 12.04, but now ethernet only works when booting in recovery mode
[19:49] <ikonia> slacko: I've asked you to do a specific test 4 times now and you keep not doing it
[19:49] <PCatinean> ikonia, you think the install ubuntu alongside windows option would be ok?
[19:49] <ikonia> PCatinean: why do you think you ned 8gb of swap
[19:49] <PCatinean> And autodetect the only free space available and partition the system properly?
[19:49] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: As you have 64 Gigs set aside for ubuntu. may I suggest about 20 Gigs '/' (root), 40 Gigs for /home and 4 Gigs for /swap .
[19:49] <PCatinean> ikonia, I don't, I just read the articles that suggested this
[19:50] <ikonia> PCatinean: what article ?
[19:50] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, what is the output of ifconfig in normal mode?
[19:50] <PCatinean> ikonia, ,http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html
[19:50] <PCatinean> ikonia, still should I pick that option? or go for manual partition?
[19:50] <tristian> there are no tutorials on how to get plugin to work
[19:51] <tristian> super lost please help
[19:51] <PCatinean> so?
[19:51] <ikonia> PCatinean: that article is poor
[19:51] <PCatinean> ok, granted, solution?
[19:51] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: without an internet connection, it gets a little tricky to relay terminal output (flashdrives and whatnot) - one minute
[19:51] <mafia> waz gud
[19:51] <ikonia> PCatinean: I'm not sure what you are doing ? you seem to be making a simple process complex
[19:52] <tristian> willing to pay
[19:52] <PCatinean> All I'm doing is asking if "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows" is a good option
[19:52] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: By far /home will consume the most disk space . as a reference, my '/' parttion " /dev/sda1       4.7G  2.4G  2.1G  54% / " is but 4.7 Gigs .. But I run real tight !
[19:52] <ikonia> PCatinean: it should work fine
[19:52] <PCatinean> you think that's complicated or getting a yes/no answer is?
[19:52] <slacko> ikonia: you asked me to close all tabs and open just 2 tabs which I did...in non private mode..idk what test you asked me to do 4 times?
[19:52] <ikonia> tristian: you need to be in the source directory of the plugin
[19:52] <PCatinean> Ok then I will pick that then
[19:52] <ikonia> slacko: that very test
[19:52] <ikonia> slacko: I've not heard the response
[19:52] <PCatinean> Which I assume it only partitions free space
[19:53] <tristian> where is this located how do i get there
[19:53] <ikonia> tristian: if you don't know how to change directory - you should not be doing this
[19:53] <slacko> ikonia: slow page is still slow, another tab with other page is normal
[19:53] <ikonia> slacko: is the other tab non-private browsing ?
[19:54] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: ""Install Ubuntu alongside Windows" is a good option " as ypi have alreasy set up unallocated space, this option is no longer a viable option .
[19:54] <tristian> i havent done this but i need this for work i have paid 3 people to fix and my deadline is a week away
[19:54] <slacko> ikonia: currenly I have 2 tabs non-private, 0 private open
[19:54] <tristian> at this point i have no choice
[19:54] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, ypi?
[19:54] <ikonia> slacko: I'm wondering if the first one is setting cookies which is a work load and the second one doesn't need to set it beceuase the first one has set it
[19:54] <ikonia> also the private browsing won't set them
[19:55] <PCatinean> I have no idea what to do, ikonia and OerHeks say it's a good idea, you say it's not a viable option
[19:55] <ikonia> tristian: talk to your work colleges and ask them for help if you need it for work
[19:55] <PCatinean> You realise how confused I am now
[19:55] <PCatinean> I have no clue what is the proper course of action, I gave all information out, idk what to do
[19:55] <tristian> i am my colleges
[19:55] <ikonia> I don't understand the confusion PCatinean ?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: Sorry, cat in lap - ypi/you* . ( cat is going outside ! ) .
[19:56] <nicomachus> cat's don't go outside!
[19:56] <slacko> ikonia: that is not likely since that 2 pages are not sharing cookies as far as I know
[19:56] <nicomachus> s/cats/cat's
[19:56] <tristian> i run my own business photography just switched to linux for a ton of reasons
[19:56] <ikonia> slacko: why would they not, they are the same site
[19:56] <Gallomimia> i can haz problem. :( my X server seems to crash completely on login, and returns to the login screen instead of doing something. i’m at a complete loss as to what to do :(
[19:56] <PCatinean> ikonia, Bashing-om says it's not a viable options and you say it should work fine
[19:56] <PCatinean> that is the confusion
[19:56] <ikonia> tristian: you're going to need to get on some courses then
[19:56] <PCatinean> Is it still my fault?
[19:56] <ikonia> tristian: reading https://help.ubuntu.com is a good starter to learn the basics
[19:56] <tristian> thanks
[19:57] <ikonia> Bashing-om: why is the alongside windows not a valid option for PCatinean
[19:57] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, when you login you are taken back to the login screen again?
[19:57] <Gallomimia> yes sir harishkrupo
[19:58] <Samul`> does using virtual machines (like virtualbox) hurt ssd life?
[19:58] <bekks> Samul`: no.
[19:58] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: here's the output of ifconfig - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c24eb9a165df1c199821
[19:58] <ikonia> Samul`: no more than just accessing the disk normally
[19:58] <nicomachus> if I'm getting an error about an incorrect line in /etc/crypttab, can I just purge lvm2 and reinstall it?
[19:58]  * PCatinean is still curious
[19:58] <Gallomimia> also, i should mention that i’m running 14.04…. point 2 i think? and some dual monitor tweaking lead to problems
[19:58] <Samul`> is that a legend or do ssd actually have shorter life, ikonia?
[19:58] <slacko> ikonia: or maybe you are right, I disabled cookies even in non-private mode and now it is sunning smoothly
[19:58] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, go to tty1 and create a new user reboot and try to login again as the new user see if you can login
[19:58] <ikonia> Samul`: not any more
[19:58] <Samul`> nice to hear
[19:58] <slacko> *running
[19:58] <Samul`> I was really worried about over-using my ssd
[19:58] <PCatinean> ikonia, he said "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows" is a good option " as you have alreasy set up unallocated space, this option is no longer a viable option"
[19:59] <ikonia> PCatinean: do you have unalloacated space on your disk ?
[19:59] <PCatinean> ikonia, yes
[19:59] <ikonia> PCatinean: then it's fine
[19:59] <Bashing-om> PCatinean: This is a busy busy channel, if you do not use our nicks, we will miss your entries. Choosing "along side" now you will not use that space that you have set asside (66345MB) . To use this space you now must use the "something else" option and tell the installer what you want to do.
[19:59] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, do you have dhcp setup or how do you connect?
[19:59] <PCatinean> It erased the entire hard-drive, installed windows and then started this
[19:59] <Gallomimia> you’re sure i need to reboot? k i’ll try
[19:59] <Gallomimia> it might take a minute. friends wanna play games
[19:59] <PCatinean> ikonia, so he is right?
[20:00] <ikonia> PCatinean: no
[20:00] <PCatinean> ok damn, lost a lot of time here
[20:00] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, just try if it doesnt work then reboot
[20:00] <PCatinean> Now I just hope it works again, and I have to wait like 10 minutes since there's a bug before the installer passes the "Preparing to install ubuntu" step
[20:00] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: trying by ethernet into a router, IPv4 and IPv6 are set to automatic
[20:01] <PCatinean> Bashing-om, I always highlighted lately, ikonia said it's fine so I'll go with it if it still works
[20:01] <mircx1> Hello one question please if i`m want install something from Terminal how i search what i`m a need? apt search?
[20:01] <ikonia> apt-cache search
[20:01] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com to learn the basics
[20:02] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, once you connect you ethernet cable try sudo ethtool eth0 and check the last line is it yes or no
[20:02] <PCatinean> And this bug is literlly killing me now I have wasted almost an hour on this
[20:02] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: last line is 'Link detected: yes'
[20:02] <PCatinean> not that great
[20:03] <ikonia> it's not literlly killing you - get a grip please
[20:03] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, ok try sudo dhclient -v eth0
[20:03] <Gallomimia> harishkrupo: tty 1-6 fail to display. also, after the grub boot loader goes to default, it fails to diplay any text, especially during the request for the unlocking key to my dm-crypt
[20:04] <Guest88051> hi all
[20:04] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: it bound me to <IP_ADDRESS>, want the full output?
[20:04] <charginghawk> ethernet still not working
[20:04] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, tty fail to display... that is weird
[20:04] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, no
[20:05] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, try pinging to your router, google dns. what happens?
[20:06] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, do you get any ping response? also try traceroute if you have it
[20:07] <PCatinean> I did have a stomach bug if that counts
[20:07] <ObrienDave> only to 10 ;p
[20:07] <PCatinean> So the automatic partitioner aparently made just swap and one partition for everything, I think I would have done the same honestly
[20:07] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: just 'connect: Network is unreachable'
[20:07] <PCatinean> Hope it works well
[20:08] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, even to the next hop? does this nic work in other operating systems?
[20:09] <mafia_-> ok
[20:09] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: my routers' IP should be <IP_ADDRESS>, right? the network works for other OSs, mac windows arch
[20:10] <ObrienDave> charginghawk, that depends on your router
[20:11] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, no it cannot be <IP_ADDRESS> since your ethernet ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:12] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, just try route -n, in the line with destination as <IP_ADDRESS> the gateway will give you your router ip address
[20:12] <Gallomimia> harishkrupo it is weird. the lack of display on password prompt also concerns me. it seems related.. i can make the other user with ssh. but the fact that there is a problem before boot. before /home is mounted. before / is mounted. this implies there’s a deeper problem. what did i screw up?
[20:13] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: I found router IP from other comps, pinging it yields no response
[20:14] <charginghawk> route -n is empty on the ubuntu that won't connect
[20:14] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, try single user mode and see if you have problem if so then it is serious
[20:14] <ObrienDave> are you connected to the correct SSID?
[20:15] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, that ubuntu is not getting its routing table updated
[20:15] <harishkrupo> so do you now know the ip of your router?
[20:15] <charginghawk> ObrienDave: trying to connect via ethernet - SSID is wireless, no?
[20:16] <ObrienDave> yes
[20:16] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: pretty sure something went sideways during the update, but like I said, I can connect in recovery mode
[20:16] <Exagone313> hello, do you know a tool to create a rtmpt (rtmp over http) tunnel (I stream to rtmp directly to the server, but I want a rtmpt tunnel to use port 80)? Thanks for helping
[20:16] <_Myst_> Just installed i3
[20:16] <_Myst_> this is gonna be FUN
[20:16] <Exagone313> the rtmpt tunnel will be used for the output
[20:16] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, do you know the ip address of you router?
[20:16] <charginghawk> yep
[20:17] <charginghawk> it's an apple router, if that makes a difference
[20:18] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, sudo route add default gw <router's ip address> and then try route -n and see what is there
[20:18] <OerHeks> !info crtmpserver
[20:18] <histo> Exagone313: what is rtmp?
[20:19] <Exagone313> it is used for vidoe streaming
[20:19] <Exagone313> video*
[20:19] <histo> Exagone313: ahh maybe vlc could help out or the link from ubottu
[20:19] <Exagone313> i'm creating my own livestream/twitch on my server
[20:19] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: route ouput is 'SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable'
[20:20] <harishkrupo>  route add -net <your routers network> netmask <subnet mask that you use> dev eth0
[20:21] <Exagone313> OerHeks: thanks i'll try
[20:23] <blizzard> Hia
[20:24] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: I put in 'sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0' and it threw me an error about netmask doesn't match route address
[20:24] <charginghawk> teasing out the right format
[20:24] <Exagone313> OerHeks: do you have a tutorial? I don't find one, and the documentation seems too difficult...
[20:25] <pcypher> hello all, can someone please assist with a "error: cannot read the linux header" problem?
[20:25] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, yeah for that netmask you must have route address as <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:25] <Gallomimia> harishkrupo: i am looking up how to boot to single user mode, however… what should i do once i enter it? why will i do it?
[20:25] <k1l_> pcypher: when does that error happen. and is the right linux header installed?
[20:26] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: I tried it with <IP_ADDRESS> and it's now in the route -n output
[20:26] <pcypher> the system was rebooted and this is what happens when I try to select the kernel to run from grub
[20:26] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, because if it is able to get into single user mode where no X.org is loaded and if it asks for the dm-crypt password then it is the problem with X.org
[20:26] <k1l_> pcypher: doesn an older kernel work in grub?
[20:26] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, now try the previous command
[20:26] <ObrienDave> pcypher, select a different kernel. you should have at least 2, current and one older
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: What release are you on ? As 15.04 uses systemd, and the procedure to boot to terminal is different .
[20:27] <Gallomimia> probably sure it’s a problem with x.org :) but if we need to test. it’s good. also, i’ve had problems with grub-probe dumping core ever since i setup this configuration
[20:27] <pcypher> I have tried selecting different kernels and they fail as well
[20:27] <pcypher> when I looked in grub,
[20:27] <pcypher> hdparam for hd0 has 3 partitions
[20:27] <pcypher> the 2nd has the filesystem
[20:27] <k1l_> pcypher: so what did you do before rebooting? and is the hardware alright?
[20:27] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, to get into single user mode just add one to the linux line in grub
[20:27] <pcypher> and in grub root is set to hd0,gpt2... which is correct
[20:27] <_Myst_> Halp!
[20:28] <ObrienDave> that sounds like a normal windows partition scheme
[20:28] <pcypher> the disks all look fine
[20:28] <_Myst_> After installing the i3 WM, my multimedia keys don't woanymore!
[20:28] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, the ctrl+x to boot
[20:28] <_Myst_> don't work anymore*
[20:28] <pcypher> i seem them all mounting
[20:28] <BadDream> ome
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> _Myst_: maybe the #i3 channel guys ca help you?
[20:28] <pcypher> i ran a shutdown command, and when it was done powered it down
[20:28] <mikubuntu> day 3 ::  damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen
[20:28] <k1l_> pcypher: no, did you add ppas, changed kernels,....,...,...
[20:29] <pcypher> no
[20:29] <pcypher> we made no changes
[20:29] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, after that try to ping your router you should be able to ping
[20:29] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> are in the route -n output, trying to ping now
[20:30] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: not getting 'Network is unreachable' but also not pinging successfully
[20:31] <charginghawk> 84 packets transmitted, 0 received
[20:31] <ObrienDave> try a different eth cable?
[20:31] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, u sure u use the same cable and nic? on other os
[20:32] <k1l_> pcypher: is that vmware?
[20:34] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: ObrienDave I've got a handful of different ethernet cables, switching yields no results
[20:34] <ObrienDave> k
[20:34] <Gallomimia> harishkrupo: no graphics. i added the word single to the end of the line starting with linux in my grub menu (press e) and same result. i dunno if i did it right
[20:35] <charginghawk> I reckon I'll just have to reinstall
[20:35] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, no not word single the charecter 1
[20:36] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, this is really weird, kernel not updating its routing table!
[20:36] <Gallomimia> oh. that’s my mistake. the thing i looked up suggested single. i’m a little lost in this. i feel it’s fruitless. i can admit that x.org is most likely messed up, because i was messing with it prior to the problem coming up
[20:36] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, did you try some other kernel?
[20:36] <Gallomimia> i feel diagnosis is useless until i just try fixing that. i don’t know how tho
[20:37] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, what were you doing with x.org
[20:37] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: I'll try that next
[20:37] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, i think it will work as it is working in recovery mode
[20:38] <_Myst_> Qeston: What utility can I use to change my keyboard's brightness?
[20:38] <k1l_> _Myst_: depends on the keyboard
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: did you try with xubuntu?
[20:39] <harishkrupo> _Myst_,  backlit keyboads are hardware controlled
[20:40] <Gallomimia> harishkrupo: i’m probably not going to be able to remember that. it’s been about a week. the last thing i remember was deleting some default settings about monitors. i was trying to restore functionality to some monitor i’d turned “off” in the system settings
[20:41] <_Myst_> harishkrupo: Yeah, but I need something to change them
[20:41] <_Myst_> I mean
[20:41] <_Myst_> to change how bright they are
[20:41] <_Myst_> Surely there is a way.
[20:41] <Gallomimia> more accurate to say “what i thought was the default settings for monitors"
[20:41] <_Myst_> I have a key for it on my keyboard
[20:41] <Gallomimia> i’ve managed to get some graphics working with the recovery mode in grub…
[20:41] <harishkrupo> _Myst_, yes that is what i was telling
[20:42] <charging1awk> harishkrupo: fwiw here's the ifconfig from recovery mode -  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/22cb2f206673ab4b6c15
[20:42] <_Myst_> a quick google search revelead xbacklight
[20:43] <k1l_> _Myst_: xbacklight is for the monitors backlight
[20:43] <Gallomimia> charginghawk: ip6 is autoconfigured but still no ping to the router??
[20:43] <k1l_> _Myst_: the keyboard backlight really depends on what keyboard that is.
[20:43] <_Myst_> yeah
[20:43] <_Myst_> I figured that out when I wrote -dec 100
[20:43] <_Myst_> and my monitor turned off
[20:44] <_Myst_> I'm using an Apple keyboard
[20:44] <charginghawk> Gallomimia: that ifconfig output is from a successful connection in recovery mode
[20:44] <_Myst_> MacBook Pro one
[20:44] <Dumle29> Hey there. I have some trouble with my NAS which is mounted on my computer via NFS. It used to work, but now it keeps saying "Error creating directory: Permission denied" on the mounted share.
[20:44] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, there is a difference in RX and TX speeds in the previous and this output so maybe try another kernel
[20:44] <Dumle29> It seems it's because it's mounted as root, but even "sudo cp ~/downloads/file /media/nas/files/file" doesn't work
[20:44] <Gallomimia> oh. and you cant’ get it to work in normal… check /etc/network/interfaces ??
[20:44] <Dumle29> It's mounted at boot via /etc/fstab. Here's the line where * is the ip:
[20:44] <Dumle29> ***.***.***.***:/volume1/ /media/nas nfs auto 0 0
[20:44] <histo> Dumle29: what are the permissions for the /mount/point
[20:44] <charginghawk> my kernel list jumps from 3.5 to 3.13 - can I use ubuntu 14.04 with 3.5?
[20:44] <histo> Dumle29: ls -l /media
[20:45] <Dumle29> histo: nas lists as root root
[20:45] <histo> charginghawk: why?
[20:45] <histo> Dumle29: what perms though
[20:45] <charginghawk> histo: trying to use a different kernel to get my ethernet working
[20:45] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, mostly all kernels work
[20:45] <Dumle29> drwxr-xr-x
[20:45] <Dumle29> histo: ^
[20:46] <Dumle29> I recently tried with autofs, but that fails to even mount anything
[20:46] <histo> Dumle29: Are there already files on the share?
[20:47] <Dumle29> histo: the /media/nas folder is a folder I made myself. My NAS exports 4 shares. files, videos, pictures, and music, those four folders would show up in the /media/nas folder
[20:47] <Dumle29> histo: yes
[20:47] <histo> Dumle29: do those directories show up in /media/nas ??
[20:47] <Dumle29> histo: Mounted via /etc/fstab, yes.  Just have to go back to fstab, autofs doesn't seem to work at all
[20:48] <Nox2x> Hey all. Dash doesnt show all installed applications unless i search for them.  Now it works again
[20:50] <Gallomimia> still no graphics after boot. i’m looking for info on how to fix a system where the owner has complete borked the x.org configurations. cause that’s what i did, and now it won’t show me pretty pictures most of the time.
[20:50] <Nox2x> And quassel, which i installed today.
[20:50] <RobinHood2015> I can't get XScreensaver (built from source) to run automatically at startup, even by explicitly specifying "xscreensaver -nosplash" in my Startup Applications. What am I doing wrong?
[20:50] <charginghawk> harishkrupo: I can confirm it works 3.5, so the issue is with the kernel
[20:50] <Gallomimia> it’s all on you #ubuntu :
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> Nox2x: when you type its name it shows?
[20:50] <Gallomimia> my windows loving friends are mocking me
[20:50] <Dumle29> histo: I did unmount it lazily when I tried to use autofs. Maybe it was just bugged out?
[20:51] <Dumle29> aka sudo umount -lf /media/nas
[20:51] <Nox2x> Yeah.
[20:51] <histo> Dumle29: could have been
[20:51] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, Great !
[20:51] <charginghawk> thanks!
[20:51] <ObrienDave> Gallomimia, that's because they don't know any better ;P
[20:51] <harishkrupo> charginghawk, there must be some bug
[20:51] <Dumle29> histo: Hmm thanks for the help anyways. It's done it a few times already, if I ever run in to some better troubleshooting data I'll probabaly swing by again :P
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> Nox2x: thats kinda normal, what about if you expand all applications?
[20:52] <Gallomimia> yeah that’s okay i forgive them. i’d like to fixit tho, i am reading articles showing similar behavior with known issues in my xorg edgers repo drivers
[20:52] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, windows people ! ;(
[20:52] <ObrienDave> you're using PPA drivers???
[20:52] <Nox2x> I click the expand button, and expect to see both quassel and frozen-bubble, but they dont show. For all i know i might have more applications not showing.
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> Nox2x: thats not normal indeed..wich ubuntu version?
[20:54] <Nox2x> 14.10
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> Nox2x: maybe upgrade to 15.04 or clean install 14.04
[20:54] <OerHeks> Nox, in dash, click on the white house icon on the bottom. you will see software and groups
[20:55] <RobinHood2015> I am using Ubuntu 15.04 now, and the daemon worked on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS before, but now it's stopped working on 15.04. Could the change to systemd have something to do with it?
[20:55] <Nox2x> It is on the white house, and have tried all
[20:55] <MrTestings> Nox2x: I've seen this also on 14.04, to me it seems like some link's are environment specific
[20:55] <OerHeks> right top corner 'filter' results, and you can customise
[20:55] <harishkrupo> RobinHood2015, yes that can be the reason
[20:56] <daftykins> never fear! dafty is here!
[20:56] <Gallomimia> ObrienDave: i think so. do you have a better suggestion?
[20:56] <RobinHood2015> harishkrupo: Okay, so how do I get around that?
[20:56] <daftykins> who is suffering from graphics driver woes?
[20:56] <harishkrupo> RobinHood2015, the script must be written for systemd not upstart
[20:56] <daftykins> Gallomimia: what's the situation?
[20:57] <Nox2x> Thats unfortunate, MrTestings. I'll was kinda reluctant to upgrade as i don't want to risk losing files, but might not have any other option.
[20:57] <RobinHood2015> harishkrupo: so that's on the developer?
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> Nox2x: 14.10 will be eol soon, you might consider upgrade or clean install lts
[20:57] <harishkrupo> RobinHood2015, no you can write it
[20:58] <Nox2x> I guess. Thanks lotus, much appreciated.
[20:58] <harishkrupo> RobinHood2015, did you write the upstart script or did is come from the developer
[20:58] <Gallomimia> daftykins: after grub displays, and when loading the default loader (recovery mode works as normal) there is no display. dm-crypt asks for its password, still no display. if typed, it boots normally to a login screen. guest login works. my login does not. if i login, it crashes and returns to the login screen
[20:58] <daftykins> ugh encryption huh
[20:58] <Gallomimia> tty 1-6 display a purple bar on the top of the screen now that i’m sitting at the login view
[20:59] <RobinHood2015> harishkrupo: I think the developer originally wrote it for upstart, but hasn't (as of yet) rewritten it for systemd.
[20:59] <Gallomimia> eh. yeah. it’s a problem. but it was working before i screwed up the xorg setups
[20:59] <daftykins> Gallomimia: sounds like at some point you may have run startx which has trashed your ~ files, can you post a "ls -al ~/" to paste.ubuntu.com ? feel free to edit names, it's the permissions i want to see
[20:59] <MrTestings> Nox2x: Some links will only show in Unity but not gnome, but all shows in KDE ;) you can see all your installed apps in /usr/share/applications
[21:00] <Gallomimia> daftykins: standby
[21:00] <harishkrupo> RobinHood2015, you can convert it if you are interested or else you have to wait
[21:00] <PCatinean> hey everyone
[21:01] <PCatinean> How does one add an entry to fstab with a bash script?
[21:01] <daftykins> that sounds like a bad move
[21:01] <daftykins> why would you want to?
[21:01] <Nox2x> I am aware i can find them, but it has to be a bug of sorts, not showing in unity but showing in others?
[21:02] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, "echo "<fstab entry>" >> tee /etc/fstab"
[21:02] <Gallomimia> daftykins: mind if i send pastebin in pm?
[21:02] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, you need to be root
[21:02] <PCatinean> harishkrupo, what is the tee? also can't I use sudo anywhere?
[21:02] <daftykins> Gallomimia: as long as the convo stays here :)
[21:02] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, sorry no tee
[21:02] <PCatinean> if I run the bash script via sudo should be fine?
[21:03] <Nox2x> Thanks tho MrTestings, will try an upgrade before eventual fresh install and see whats what.
[21:03] <Gh0st-> how can I kill vsftpd
[21:03] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, it is just  "echo "<fstab entry>" >>  /etc/fstab"
[21:03] <MrTestings> Nox2x: I have the same problem, but with apps only showing in Unity and not others.
[21:03] <Gallomimia> k, but i’ll try to keep the unedited pastebin reasonably private
[21:03] <Gh0st-> how can I remove it all together vsftpd
[21:03] <PCatinean> yes, I got that part but it says I have no permission and I don't want the bash script to run as root, though I run it with sudo
[21:03] <PCatinean> idk
[21:03] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, no it will not work cause redirection doesnt work properly with sudo
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: purge?
[21:03] <Gallomimia> just cause i’m too lazy to consider the security risks involved in pasting that in public :P
[21:03] <k1l_> Gh0st-: purge it with apt ?
[21:03] <Gh0st-> lotuspsychje: how?
[21:03] <PCatinean> then what can I do harishkrupo execute the bash as root?
[21:03]  * Gh0st- is a newbie
[21:03] <k1l_> !purge | Gh0st-
[21:04] <daftykins> Gallomimia: yeah your xauthority is owned by root. this is breaking things; run "sudo chown -R gallomimia: /home/gallomimia/" then restart
[21:04] <PCatinean> harishkrupo, it's a fresh install bash script and I want to create to make my formats a lot easier
[21:04] <k1l_> Gh0st-: no, dont use that
[21:04] <Gh0st-> hmm
[21:04] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:04] <Gh0st-> ok
[21:04] <Gallomimia> PCatinean: why do you need to edit it with a script? can’t you jsut edit it, and save it, and be done?
[21:04]  * Gh0st- holding is horses
[21:04] <k1l_> Gh0st-: sudo apt-get purge vfstp
[21:04] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, sudo bash
[21:04] <Gallomimia> daftykins: that’s embarassing :D
[21:04] <RobinHood2015> Okay... Is there a terminal command similar to Windows' "copy con" that lets me send keyboard input to a file?
[21:04] <PCatinean> Gallomimia, it's a bash script
[21:04] <Gh0st-> E: Unable to locate package vfstp
[21:04] <daftykins> Gallomimia: don't run startx ever :)
[21:04] <k1l_> Gh0st-: sudo apt-get purge vsftpd
[21:04] <PCatinean> harishkrupo, so that will work? and inside the bash script itself I don't need to use sudo?
[21:04] <Gallomimia> RobinHood2015: yes. it’s just > using pipes and stuff
[21:05] <Gallomimia> echo… there’s other ways too
[21:05] <Gh0st-> k1l_: ps -ef | grep vsftpd
[21:05] <Gh0st-> still can see it running
[21:05] <Gh0st-> :
[21:05] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:05] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, no this will open another bash program
[21:05] <MrTestings> Nox2x: I notice in KDE there is a link flag, that allows apps to only be shown in KDE. I wonder if such flags exist for Unity etc.
[21:05] <k1l_> Gh0st-: yeah, stop it or just reboot
[21:05] <Gh0st-> k1l_: stop it how
[21:06] <k1l_> Gh0st-: what ubuntu version?
[21:06] <Gh0st-> 14
[21:06] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, you need to be root
[21:06] <Gallomimia> daftykins: what’s with all the old xauths and errors?
[21:06] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, before running the script
[21:06] <PCatinean> harishkrupo, but damn I want a lot of my commands to be executed as my regular user :(
[21:06] <PCatinean> there must be a solution for this
[21:06] <Gallomimia> there is
[21:06] <k1l_> Gh0st-: ubuntu numbers are 14.xx where xx is 04 or 10 (which is the month)
[21:06] <Gallomimia> it’s linux. you can do anything
[21:06] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, ok lets see
[21:06] <Gh0st-> k1l_: what was the command to check it/
[21:06] <Gallomimia> there’s just a lot of people here that are saying it’s probably going to break your security.
[21:06] <k1l_> Gh0st-: but since that uses upstart do a "sudo service vsftpd stop"
[21:06] <daftykins> Gallomimia: *shrug* it just keeps them then rotates the logs occasionally
[21:07] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, ok got it
[21:07] <RobinHood2015> Okay. I found this in the Arch Linux wiki, but I'm thinking it might also work for Ubuntu. I'm thinking I need to create an ~/.xinitrc file specifying the command to launch the XScreenSaver daemon.
[21:07] <Gh0st-> k1l_: vsftpd: unrecognized service
[21:07] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:07] <harishkrupo> RobinHood2015, yes it might work :)
[21:07] <Gallomimia> daftykins: the system has rebooted and it’s a blank screen. i’ll try unlocking crypto to see if at least i can login.
[21:07] <Nox2x> MrTestings: Ok. Inconvenient for newer users, such as myself :)
[21:07] <harishkrupo> PCatinean,  "sudo echo "<fstab entry>" |  tee -a /etc/fstab"
[21:07] <RobinHood2015> All right, I'll test it by restarting X.
[21:08] <k1l_> Gh0st-: seems like the scripts are already deleted. so just use kill to kill the process
[21:08] <daftykins> Gallomimia: i heard this issue had something to do with graphics drivers originally, what set this off exactly?
[21:08] <PCatinean> what's the tee doing? and the pipe
[21:08] <Gh0st-> k1l_: ?
[21:08] <Gh0st-> ps x
[21:08] <k1l_> !kill | Gh0st-
[21:09] <MrTestings> Nox2x: me to, this is my second day using Ubuntu I've almost completely broken it :)
[21:09] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, the pipe will pipe the output to tee program
[21:09] <Gallomimia> daftykins: the event in my life that has had a lasting effect is a new monitor. not a replacement monitor but a second one.
[21:09] <k1l_> Gh0st-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104903/how-do-i-kill-processes-in-ubuntu
[21:09] <PCatinean> permission denied harishkrupo
[21:09] <daftykins> Gallomimia: graphics card + driver?
[21:09] <Gallomimia> in trying to get it working i started digging into xorg settings with a sledge hammer instead of a scalpel
[21:10] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, oh sorry "echo "<fstab entry>" |  sudo tee -a /etc/fstab"
[21:10]  * NegativeFlare raises to help
[21:10] <Gallomimia> it is a gtx 780 with the xorg edgers driver 346 i think
[21:10] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, tee basically writes to files
[21:10] <Gallomimia> i think that’s the driver i’m using… i did not change this to cause any breaks. it was working
[21:10] <PCatinean> yeah I thought so
[21:10] <PCatinean> though the one before didn't work with sudo, the first version
[21:11] <Gallomimia> remember. sudo is the tool you use to break things. that’s why i’m here :)
[21:11] <PCatinean> Uuuh snap, seems to work harishkrupo !
[21:11] <daftykins> Gallomimia: and what ubuntu version is this? "cat /etc/issue"
[21:11] <harishkrupo> PCatinean, yeah because there only echo has root permissions
[21:11] <PCatinean> I'll restart to see if it takes on
[21:11] <Gallomimia> it’s 14.04.2 i think
[21:11] <Gallomimia> hold on i can’t get it to boot.
[21:11] <PCatinean> brb
[21:11] <Gallomimia> i’m fortunate enough to have a second computer to come here with, but only 1 keyboard between them
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> !info synergy | Gallomimia is this useful
[21:13] <Nox2x> MrTestings: Just keep at it. I've tested every version since 5.04 but never made the switch, but now is as good time to do just that as ever.
[21:13] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: not when one side isn't working ;)
[21:13] <Guest49504> H!
[21:13] <NegativeFlare> MonkeyDust: Warning: The newest version of synergy, requires that you buy it.
[21:14] <xar> how do I to share an image on xchat, please?
[21:14] <brainwash_> buying software?! hell no
[21:14] <Gallomimia> MonkeyDust: mac?
[21:14] <k1l_> !paste | xar
[21:15] <Gh0st-> k1l_: what is the best way to FTP into ubuntu?
[21:15] <STxAxTICAFK> 1+1
[21:15] <k1l_> Gh0st-: ftp is a bad idea
[21:15] <Gh0st-> k1l_: then?
[21:15] <NegativeFlare> SFTP
[21:15] <STxAxTICAFK> my bad wrong window
[21:15] <k1l_> Gh0st-: us sftp which is enabled by ssh-server
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> Gallomimia  http://www.synergy-project.org/
[21:15] <histo> Gh0st-: use ssh or sftp
[21:15] <histo> Gh0st-: or scp
[21:16] <Gh0st-> how can I setup?
[21:16] <Guest49504> elou
[21:16] <Guest49504> alguien espa;ol o ke
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> !es
[21:17] <Guest49504> wow thankiu
[21:17] <xangua> that spanish is so bad even I thought it was portuguese
[21:17] <xar> When I try to connect an external hard drive I get this error message imgur.com/xnNmTb4 what's wrong, please?
[21:17] <NegativeFlare> xar: First thought, Hard Drive is dead
[21:17] <histo> !sshd | Gh0st-
[21:18] <Guest49504> soy tan novato que no se entrar ni a canal ... hmm
[21:18] <NegativeFlare> xar: anytime you get a I/O Error like that, most of the time, the Hard drive has failed
[21:18] <NegativeFlare> !es | Guest49504
[21:18] <ObrienDave> xar, run chkdsk in windows like it says
[21:18] <xar> NegativeFlare, I've tried to connect it with Microsoft OS, it succeeded
[21:18] <k1l_> xar: put it back on the windows machine and disable that fast reboot thing for that drive
[21:19] <NegativeFlare> then run chkdsk on it then
[21:19] <harishkrupo> xar,  or just boot into windows and reboot dont shutdown
[21:19] <xar> how to run chkdsk, please? :p
[21:19] <Guest49504>  /join #ubuntu-es
[21:20] <histo> Guest49504: with out a space
[21:20] <harishkrupo> xar, chkdsk /F <disk letter>:
[21:20] <Guest49504> donde lo pongo , perdonen
[21:20] <Gh0st-> can't get my head around
[21:20] <Gh0st-> :/
[21:20] <ObrienDave> xar, in windows, run, cmd, chkdsk /x c:
[21:20] <Guest49504> ok, withouth space
[21:20] <histo> Guest49504:
[21:20] <histo> tipo de combinación sin un espacio
[21:21] <ObrienDave> xar, /x implies /f and closes all open handles to the drive
[21:21] <Guest49504> ok, pero no se donde va, o sea donde introducirlo
[21:21] <xar> ObrienDave, does that command line only works on microsoft systems? :p
[21:21] <ObrienDave> yes
[21:21] <histo> Guest49504: '/join #ubuntu-es'
[21:22] <ObrienDave> the error says to run chkdsk in windows
[21:22] <Gallomimia> MonkeyDust: that is pretty useful yes. i don’t think i’ll install it on a non-working system to try and fix it until i get it working again tho :)
[21:22] <ObrienDave> xar, the error says to run chkdsk in windows
[21:23] <Gallomimia> daftykins: that permissions change got my user to be able to login again tyvm. i’m still dismayed by the lack of display while it is asking for my dm-crypt unlock.
[21:23] <ObrienDave> xar, there is no equivalent NTFS utility in linux
[21:23] <Gallomimia> as in. wow. i broke TWO things at once ><
[21:23] <xar> okay thanks :)
[21:24] <daftykins> Gallomimia: that'll probably be down to encrypted setup issues which i have no idea about then, i only deal with straight up graphics problems
[21:24] <Guest49504>  thankiu histo, im not shure in where enter these code, in what window, i start today in linux world with. ubuntu studio
[21:25] <histo> Guest49504: yes you enter it right where you typed the last message.  Just don't put a space infront of the command
[21:25] <Guest49504> ok, i try bro.  its a new world for me
[21:27] <Voyage> the /etc/hosts has localhost <IP_ADDRESS>    on the first line. now how do I block hotmail.com?
[21:27] <NegativeFlare> Voyage: add localhost <tab> hotmail.com
[21:29] <Gallomimia> daftykins: well i didn’t change the crypto settings (not only because i don’t know how) but i would suggest that you’re incorrect because the issue exists across multiple instances of displaying only text such as when switching to tty1-6
[21:30] <Voyage> NegativeFlare,   I just nano it and added it. didnt work. Do I need to restart anything?
[21:30] <Gallomimia> but the point is the damn thing plays games again so… that’s good enough for today
[21:30] <daftykins> Gallomimia: no i'm just saying i can't help you because i have zero experience with setups using encryption.
[21:30] <NegativeFlare> Voyage: networking yes
[21:30] <Gallomimia> daftykins: that makes two of us. the ubuntu intsaller did it all for me.
[21:30] <Voyage> NegativeFlare,  how
[21:31] <NegativeFlare> Voyage: sudo service networking restart
[21:32] <Voyage>   sudo service networking restart
[21:32] <Voyage> stop: Job failed while stopping
[21:32] <Voyage> start: Job is already running: networking
[21:32] <Gallomimia> anyway, i just stopped back to say thanks for the help so far. daftykins for the permission fix, and harishkrupo for some diagnosis. i’ll work on it more soon. i clearly have an entire ship shipping ship full of info to learn about just bootloaders.
[21:33] <Gh0st-> how can I transfer file to my Ubuntu server?
[21:33] <harishkrupo> Gallomimia, great !
[21:33] <esph> Networkmanager is still default in 15.04, right?
[21:33] <Gh0st-> can't seems to find a way
[21:33] <Gallomimia> Gh0st-: what system to you want to send file from?
[21:34] <k1l_> Gh0st-: as already answered: ssh
[21:34] <Gh0st-> k1l_: cant get my head around
[21:34] <Gallomimia> ssh is not installed by default on windows.
[21:34] <Guest49504> thanks! i just went go to learn how to use in spanish. Have a nice Day (-8
[21:34] <Gh0st-> Gallomimia: Windows
[21:34] <harishkrupo> Gh0st-, scp or sftp
[21:34] <Gallomimia> yes.
[21:34] <k1l_> Gh0st-: it can handle scp or sftp too with ssh
[21:34] <Gallomimia> i suggest you download the program called file zilla to the windows computer
[21:34] <harishkrupo> Gh0st-, use winscp
[21:34] <Gh0st-> k1l_: do I have to setup ssh? on ubuntu
[21:34] <k1l_> Gh0st-: and if you say "server" its clear you want and already have ssh.
[21:34] <Gallomimia> winscp works too
[21:34] <Fuchs> Gh0st-: yes, you need sshd running on ubuntu
[21:34] <Gh0st-> harishkrupo: yeah I am but not connecting
[21:34] <Gallomimia> these programs can run thru the ssh server running by default on the ubuntu server
[21:34] <Gh0st-> Fuchs: how would I check that
[21:34] <Fuchs> Gh0st-: then a client  (e.g. winscp) on windows to transfer the files.
[21:35] <k1l_> !ssh | Gh0st-
[21:35] <Gallomimia> or is it a ubuntu desktop? ssh is of by default
[21:35] <wastrel> does dropbox work on linux
[21:35] <Fuchs> Gallomimia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[21:35] <k1l_> wastrel: of course
[21:35] <Fuchs> wastrel: yes, they have an official client
[21:35] <Gallomimia> Fuchs: it is gh0st who has questions
[21:35] <Fuchs> Gallomimia: yus, mistab, thanks
[21:35] <Gh0st-> how can I check if its running
[21:35] <Gh0st-> or not?
[21:35] <Fuchs> Gh0st-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring     and  sudo service sshd status
[21:35] <jarray52> `nmap -sP <my ip range>` does not return hostnames. Only ip addresses are listed. Furthermore, I can't ping a machine by name. Only ip. How do I fix DNS name resolution?
[21:35] <Gh0st-> its a VPS
[21:36] <Fuchs> Gh0st-: but configure it properly before running it
[21:36] <k1l_> Gh0st-: how do you connect to your server?
[21:36] <Gallomimia> your vps has it running.
[21:36] <Fuchs> Gh0st-: it basically allows remote login, so you want that to be configured properly.
[21:36] <Gallomimia> a third party provider??
[21:36] <Gallomimia> what will you use this VPS for gh0st?
[21:37] <asmodai__> Im not a fan of the ubuntu startup sound. when I try to change it I goto /usr/share/sound/ubuntu/stereo and overright the desktop-login.ogg file with a different file named the same as the ubuntu one. Yet it still doesn't play the sound I want when the login screen comes up
[21:37] <kuba7447> hello
[21:37] <Gallomimia> hi.
[21:37] <Gh0st-> k1l_: its a VPS
[21:38] <kuba7447> im new to linux
[21:38] <Gallomimia> Gh0st-: i’ve used ubuntu VPS for many things. do you rent it? are you using it for webserver? gameserver?
[21:38] <asmodai__> whats up kuba
[21:38] <Gallomimia> kuba7447: welcome!
[21:38] <k1l_> Gh0st-: there is not a "one click and you are done" way to handle a server properly without causing a lot of security issues. so better start reading into what you are doing there instead of searching for a solution that you dont need to know anything about
[21:38] <Gallomimia> it’s a fun thing. a little hard to fix sometimes, but usually easy to use.
[21:38] <Gh0st-> Gallomimia: I just want to transfer a bloody folder
[21:38] <Gh0st-> lol
[21:38] <k1l_> Gh0st-: _how_ do you connect to that vps server?
[21:38] <Gh0st-> k1l_: putty
[21:39] <k1l_> Gh0st-: so. do you know what putty uses to connect? its already ssh
[21:39] <asmodai__> @ Gh0st why not use ssh dude?
[21:39] <kuba7447> feels good to dont have to worry about viruses and blue screen of death, lol
[21:39] <asmodai__> kuba
[21:39] <harishkrupo> putty uses ssh Gh0st-
[21:39] <Gh0st-> k1l_: Yeah but how would I transfer a folder
[21:39] <Gallomimia> i recommend file zilla. get the software for free. configure it with the putty credentials and use “SFTP”. it gives ftp like interface to transfer files and folders
[21:39] <asmodai__> dont think that way because that isnt the truth of the matter
[21:39] <Gallomimia> putty does not transfer files
[21:39] <Gallomimia> you need a second program for this.
[21:39] <k1l_> !sftp | Gh0st-
[21:40] <k1l_> Gh0st-: start reading!
[21:40] <asmodai__> kuba?
[21:40] <kuba7447> this numix circle icon theme look really nice...
[21:40] <Gallomimia> that’s not a helpful snipped from ubottu for sftp
[21:40] <Gallomimia> it’s just an alias for ssh?
[21:40] <kuba7447> yes asmodai?
[21:40] <asmodai__> have you ever heard of noobslab.com?
[21:41] <kuba7447> no
[21:41] <mafia> hello
[21:41] <asmodai__> take a look it's pretty good for making your desktop look sweet
[21:41] <k1l_> ghosthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles
[21:41] <k1l_> Gh0st-:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles
[21:42] <asmodai__> @kuba - open a terminal [ctrl+alt+T] and sudo ufw enable
[21:42] <Gh0st-> WOoho
[21:42] <Gh0st-> I am in
[21:42] <Gh0st-> WOohHOOo
[21:42] <Gh0st-> WOhoOO
[21:42] <kuba7447> making ubuntu look like osX? no thanks...
[21:42] <Gh0st-> silly me
[21:42] <Gh0st-> wasn't entering the right port
[21:42] <Gh0st-> lol
[21:42] <Gallomimia> sftp and ftp do not use the same port
[21:42] <pcypher> ok ya, still cant boot... verified the virtual disk
[21:43] <pcypher> that looks fine,
[21:43] <pcypher> when I go into grub
[21:43] <histo> scp somedirectory user@server:/where/to/put/on/server
[21:43] <asmodai__> @kuba - it isnt just for making it look like os x dude there are a stack of different icons themes and programs that can help customize your desktop the way you want. dont dismiss the site they have some good things on there
[21:43] <k1l_> pcypher: so its vmware?
[21:43] <histo> Gh0st-: ^^^
[21:43] <pcypher> no, its got an lsi raid on it
[21:43] <pcypher> when I go into grub
[21:43] <pcypher> hdparam on hd0 shows 3 partitions
[21:44] <pcypher> partition 2 has a fs on it,
[21:44] <asmodai__> ok anyways back to the probelm im having
[21:44] <pcypher> and grub is pointing at it, hd0,gpt2
[21:44] <kuba7447> i installed the proprietary driver, will i be able to play counter strike source?
[21:44] <asmodai__> startup sound on ubuntu. how do i change it anyone?
[21:44] <pcypher> ive been here before a long time ago, think i need to make a usb live cd and chroot
[21:44] <pcypher> that sound right ?
[21:44] <histo> asmodai__: settings anyone
[21:45] <asmodai__> @ histo - I'm adding my own custom file
[21:45] <asmodai__> settings wont allow that
[21:46] <pcypher> its a physical box, supermicro
[21:46] <asmodai__> which is why i used terminal to overwrite the original with my own .ogg fie
[21:46] <asmodai__> file*
[21:46] <pcypher> im not having a good day
[21:46] <pcypher> :S
[21:46] <asmodai__> but it doesn't recognise it
[21:46] <histo> asmodai__: why?
[21:47] <pcypher> check perms and ownership
[21:47] <pcypher> for the ogg
[21:47] <asmodai__> I scrubbed the .ogg with MAT.
[21:47] <asmodai__> @histo I don't know why yet but intend to find out
[21:48] <histo> pcypher: can you ask your question on one line instead of using the enter key as punctuation.
[21:48] <pcypher> wilco
[21:50] <joaopedrobrazil> s
[21:51] <_Myst_> Should I use $HOME/bin or /bin
[21:51] <_Myst_> ?
[21:51] <Gh0st-> thank you soo much guys
[21:51] <Gh0st-> I will back with more questions
[21:51] <Gh0st-> :P
[21:52] <asmodai__> $home /bin
[21:52] <_Myst_> If it doesn't exist, shouldI make it?
[21:52] <asmodai__> so like no
[21:52] <asmodai__> you have the home and bin already
[21:53] <k1l_> _Myst_: yes, create the home/bin and put your user stuff there
[21:53] <bekks> _Myst_: Using it for what?
[21:53] <_Myst_> A perl script
[21:53] <_Myst_> that I want to run often
[21:53] <_Myst_> so better to just vt
[21:53] <_Myst_> have it
[21:54] <bekks> _Myst_: Run it as a particular user?
[21:54] <kuba7447> the flat colour theme looks nice, thanks asmodai_
[21:54] <wastrel> i usually make $HOME/bin/  to put stuff like that in
[21:55] <_Myst_> bekks Huh?
[21:56] <asmodai__> kuba - theres loads of stuff on there. check out conky. thats good for making your desktop look pretty futuristic too. also for a headsup. try synaptics package manager instead of software centre dude. software centre behaves like windows in the sense that it leaves unwanted files on your  system when you uninstall a program. synaptics does the job properly and removes all of the things that are not needed
[21:57] <_Myst_> Will $HOME/bin automatically alias it?
[21:57] <_Myst_> For example, given file $HOME/bin/myScript.py
[21:57] <k1l_> _Myst_: yes, for that user
[21:57] <_Myst_> can I restart terminal and type myScript
[21:57] <_Myst_> or do I need to full-restart?
[21:58] <asmodai__> @ _Myst_ -I wasn't trying to mislead. I thought you were referring to your original install when you mentioned HOME~:/bin
[21:59] <Bashing-om> _Myst_: If you are going to use $HOME/bin for your scripts; consider adding it to your path : echo 'PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"' .........
[22:00] <k1l_> Bashing-om: _Myst_ home/bin is already in path on ubuntu
[22:01] <kuba7447> thanks asmodai_
[22:01] <Bashing-om> k1l_: :) , Now, that I was not aware of, thanks .
[22:01] <_Myst_> How do I access partitions?
[22:01] <_Myst_> Like, the files inside a partition
[22:01] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I have ubuntu 14.04 vbox VM. For no reason at all, I created a snapshot of thiis VM, which I later deleted. After deletion, when I start the VM, I get the GUI login screen, I enter my pwd, the screen goes black for a split second, I hear the standard ubuntu sound and then I get the GUI login screen again, and again. can someone please help me identify what is happening here?? TIA!
[22:04] <ObrienDave> nimbiotics, it this using Vbox? if so, you can ask in #vbox
[22:04] <nimbiotics> ObrienDave: Thanks
[22:04] <ObrienDave> doh, now i see vbox ;P
[22:05] <_Myst_> youtube-dl isn't wong
[22:05] <_Myst_> working
[22:05] <_Myst_> :/
[22:07] <k1l_> !details | _Myst_
[22:07] <Bashing-om> _Myst_: How do you want to access these files ? from the GUI (file manager) or from terminal ?
[22:08] <_Myst_> Bashing-om: Eithers fine
[22:08] <sG_> Anyone know if there's a way in Ubuntu to map alt+backspace to delete an entire line like in OSX?
[22:08] <_Myst_> I just want to access the files isnide a partition
[22:08] <_Myst_> to copy them over
[22:09] <k1l_> _Myst_: mount the partition, then copy the files
[22:09] <k1l_> if you run unity the nautilus filebrowser can handle that for you
[22:10] <Bashing-om> _Myst_: In the file manager in the left pane is all the file systems the system is aware of, just double click to open . With terminal one makes up a mount point, and mounts the target file system directly .
[22:11] <_Myst_> Another question
[22:11] <_Myst_> Fro some reason my bin doesn't work
[22:11] <_Myst_> bin, not garbage bin, like the one for scripts
[22:11] <_Myst_> I can put anything I want there
[22:11] <_Myst_> not recognized
[22:12] <_Myst_> (Let me put that on one line)
[22:12] <_Myst_> Why don't files I put in $HOME/bin not become pseudo-command?
[22:12] <k1l_> if its in the users /home/bin then it gets put in PATH. please relogin first
[22:12] <_Myst_> oh okay.
[22:12] <_Myst_> What if it's in /usr/bin
[22:13] <k1l_> _Myst_: what you mean by pseudocommand? its in path. its not an alias then
[22:14]  * _Myst_ shrugs
[22:15] <_Myst_> What if it's in /usr/bin?
[22:16] <kuba7447> is linux good for gaming?
[22:16] <k1l_> _Myst_: i am not sure what you really want.
[22:16] <dev_code> hi guys. There is nay command line on the terminal which allow you to edit any hmtl code on the remote server? Thanks
[22:16] <k1l_> kuba7447: that depends on the gamemakers shipping a linux version of the game
[22:17] <_Myst_> k1l_: Do I still need to re-login if the scripts are in /usr/local/bin?
[22:17] <kuba7447> ok, i heard that steams machines are coming out in October, is steamOS linux?
[22:17] <ObrienDave> kuba7447, that depends. if you're expecting windows games to run like native windows, forget about it
[22:17] <dasmith8815> Good Afternoon All
[22:18] <k1l_> _Myst_: you need to relogin one time to get the PATH recognise the /home/bin folder. so just relogin now and you are done. you are making it way more difficult and confusing than it should be
[22:18] <k1l_> kuba7447: yes, steamOS is linux
[22:18] <ObrienDave> *bites fingers*
[22:18] <kuba7447> yay!
[22:19] <kuba7447> does that means more games on linux?
[22:19] <k1l_> kuba7447: ask steam about that. we cant tell you what their plans are
[22:19] <kuba7447> ok
[22:20] <kuba7447> i hope steam machines will be successful, people say they wont be...
[22:20] <k1l_> kuba7447: we focus on actual ubuntu support in here. for chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:21] <kuba7447> ok, i didnt know about other channels , sorry
[22:22] <dev_code> There is any command line on the terminal which allow you to edit any hmtl code on the remote server? Thanks
[22:23] <k1l_> dev_code: any cli editor you want. nano, vim, emacs, ... .. ..
[22:23] <jarray52> On my Ubuntu 14.04LTS box, when I run `nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24', I don't get hostnames. My Macbook and debian machines correctly print the hostnames with the same command. Where should I start to debug this issue?
[22:23] <dev_code> k1l_: I am wondering if I can edit it on the terminal
[22:24] <k1l_> dev_code: yes you can
[22:24] <dev_code> sound like obama :) any command line?
 dev_code: any cli editor you want. nano, vim, emacs, ... .. ..
[22:25] <wastrel> linux
[22:28] <DylanRJ> Can I add music to my iPhone from Ubuntu? I've heard Banshee or Rhythmbox might work, any confirmation of that? I have a 6+
[22:30] <rafid> how can write code in ubuntu open source
[22:31] <DylanRJ> rafid: learn how to use git, open Gedit, pick a project, and start hacking
[22:31] <Bashing-om> rafid: A good place to start : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide .
[22:31] <jarray52> My `/etc/resolv.conf` on my Ubuntu box does not have a line `domain lan`. However, my macbook and debian boxes do. What causes this to be missing? Is this an Ubuntu 14.04LTS issue or a router configuration problem?
[22:36] <ltk> i builded the kernel 3.18.3
[22:37] <ltk> but it show a error "gzip: no space left on device"
[22:38] <nicomachus> hey guys, I have an encrypted partition temporarily mounted at /tmp/ecryptfs.N0qB6feN/, and I want to backup the entire contents somewhere online (Drive preferably), but I'm not sure how to get them there
[22:38] <ltk> i don't know what happes
[22:39] <Bashing-om> ltk: /boot partition full  ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[22:39] <ltk> the /home free 1.2G
[22:40] <rafid> how can i know linux is open source
[22:40] <ltk> rafid: get a soueces
[22:40] <rafid> how
[22:41] <nicomachus> rafid: https://askubuntu.com/questions/2964/where-can-i-find-the-source-code-for-the-ubuntu-kernel
[22:41] <ltk> google 'linux kernel',
[22:41] <nicomachus> or, run 'apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)' with your kernel image name
[22:42] <mvmacedo> hi all
[22:42] <rafid> i want to work with open source idea
[22:42] <ltk> nicomachus:ok, now i'm in classroom
[22:43] <ltk> wait some time, i try it
[22:45] <dw1> is there a way to get nautilus to do a 'bare' listing over NFS to speed it up
[22:45] <dw1> e.g. /bin/ls is way faster than the ls alias on a folder with lots of files
[22:45] <dw1> https://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7005969
[22:47] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I have ubuntu 14.04 vbox VM. For no reason at all, I created a snapshot of thiis VM, which I later deleted. After deletion, when I start the VM, I get the GUI login screen, I enter my pwd, the screen goes black for a split second, I hear the standard ubuntu sound and then I get the GUI login screen again, and again. can someone please help me identify what is happening here?? TIA!
[22:50] <EriC^^> nimbiotics: get to a tty and type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[22:51] <nimbiotics> EriC^^: thanks, will try
[22:55] <nimbiotics> EriC^^: the ,Xauthority file is there. Sshould I delete it?
[22:56] <EriC^^> no, who's the owner?
[22:57] <nimbiotics> the owner is root
[22:58] <EriC^^> nimbiotics: ok, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[22:59] <nimbiotics> and reboot?
[22:59] <EriC^^> nimbiotics: no, type sudo service lightdm restart
[22:59] <Bashing-om> nimbiotics: better take a look at the permissions on ~/.ICEauthority, too. It often gets changed when ~/.Xauthority gets changed. The same fix applies.
[23:00] <eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee> hey everybody. i was just wondering how i enable the gray ambiance theme. I installed it from the PPA successfully but i dont know how to apply it and it doesnt pop up in my themes window
[23:00] <nimbiotics> Bashing-om: ~/.ICEauthority, is OK
[23:00] <eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee> im on Ubunt by the way
[23:01] <meshuggah> hell everyone, could someone tell me which file system would be the most robust to use?
[23:02] <Peter-C> Running Ubuntu server. ESXI. The Windows VM has a 1GB/S connection on the same adaptor the Ubuntu server is on. Turned off the Windows server. ubuntu server still gets 200 down and 30 up. mii-tool hates it saying no MII interfaces found. What should I do?
[23:02] <nimbiotics> EriC^^, Bashing-om: It is working as expected, thank you very much to both of you!
[23:02] <EriC^^> nimbiotics: great, no problem
[23:03] <Bashing-om> meshuggah: For what application ? ext4 is still best for general purpose - all-around do it all usage .
[23:03] <meshuggah> Bashing-om, desktop usage, web, games, dev, power-losing, harddrive failing
[23:04] <meshuggah> Bashing-om, long uptime
[23:04] <meshuggah> dayss
[23:05] <meshuggah> what about btrfs?
[23:05] <OerHeks> harddrive failing,all filesystems will do
[23:06] <Bashing-om> meshuggah: ext4, still solid and has full support . Unless you have reason to use else, there is no reason not to use ext4 .
[23:07] <meshuggah> ok thank, sad i dont have money to buy new hard drives, not sure if it is hard-drive-failing, electricity losing, or pure stupidity from me, but everything i install get corrupted and stop working soon
[23:07] <meshuggah> probably these 3 reasons
[23:08] <Bashing-om> meshuggah: Yuk, There are tools to check the hard drive and file system .
[23:08] <Ben64> what symptoms are you experiencing
[23:08] <meshuggah> Ben64, OS stoping to work, partition disappearing, s.ma.r.t error(that i dont understand )
[23:08] <nicomachus> I need some help backup up the contents of this hard drive from a live usb. I have the encrypted drive mounted and readable, but I can't figure out how to upload it somewhere. I could use rsync from this point, but I don't have anywhere to send it with enough space.
[23:09] <meshuggah> in the past 2 weeks i installed 14-15 OSes on this ONE PC, and all are breaking apart
[23:09] <Ben64> meshuggah: you should pastebin the output of "smartctl -a" for us
[23:09] <hplc> how do i get the background as well as foreground(the text) color / color code(s) from the bash shell / terminal i currently use?
[23:09] <Ben64> meshuggah: "sudo smartctl -a" *
[23:09] <nicomachus> EriC^^: if you remember, this is that pc from the other day. still can't get it to boot well, so I'm just going to nuke it and fresh install. need to backup the home folder first though
[23:09] <meshuggah> okay thank ben64 i try it
[23:12] <zacktu> I can't read pdf portfolios (collections of pdf documents joined together).  Google finds lots of discussion in 2010-2012, but I don't think I can find any resolution.  So how can I read pdf portfolios?
[23:12] <Jamie_1> for some odd reason my gimp will not run, when ran in terminal i get segmentation fault(core dumped)
[23:13] <jturek> zacktu, is the PDF portfolo password protected with digital rights management?
[23:14] <zacktu> I don't think so.  I have been able to read the file in Windows 7 and 8.
[23:14] <jturek> Normally, by default, double clicking a PDF file will allow you to read a standard multipage PDF file
[23:14] <Jamie_1> does any one know what i can do to get gimp back up and running
[23:14] <jturek> Ubuntu calls the program "Document Viewer"
[23:14] <meshuggah> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/hFP8guTj
[23:14] <jturek> Jamie_1, I would re-install gimp using the Ubuntu Software Center
[23:15] <Jamie_1> jturek: i did both software center reinstall and apt-get reinstall
[23:15] <meshuggah> oh, and also 2 usb-external drive got recently corrupted too, not only sata one
[23:15] <Jamie_1> neither worked
[23:15] <zacktu> I use document viewer for everything else.  When I try to open this file I see a window that says I need a newer version of Acrobat reader.
[23:16] <jturek> Jamie_1, could be that you have a corrupted configuration file?  You should have a hidden directory called .gimp-2.8 in your Home directory
[23:16] <jturek> (or whatever version you are running)
[23:16] <Jamie_1> let me look
[23:16] <jturek> zacktu,  it sounds like the PDF you are trying to view has some type of advanced adobe feature that is not part of the PDF standard
[23:17] <jturek> If you enable the canonical partners repository,  Adobe Acrobat is included there and should provide enough features for your need
[23:17] <Jamie_1> jturek: all i see is a bunch of update notifier crash var crash files
[23:17] <xreal> Sorry for asking in here, but #lubuntu seems to have a pretty small community. A friend gave me his 7-year-old Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pro notebook. It's running Windows XP, but I want to run Lubuntu on it. After inserting the stable x86-CD, it just hangs with the Lubuntu logo on it... Do I need an older version or some drivers?
[23:18] <jturek> Jamie_1, may i ask if Gimp has ever worked?  did this just suddenly start?
[23:18] <zacktu> I've asked the person who generates the file, and she says that she's using a portfolio, which enables her to join together lots of separate pdf documents.  I've also tried several command line tools with no success.  By the way the message is "For the best experience, open this PDF portfolio inAcrobat X or Adobe Reader X, or later."
[23:18] <jarray52> My router is sending back domainname lan, but NetworkManager as configure on Ubuntu is not creating a domainname entry in /etc/resolv.conf. Furthermore, `nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24' doesn't give hostnames. Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
[23:18] <Jamie_1> it did a while back... then it stopped and my need for it went away... but now i need it
[23:19] <jturek> zacktu, ahh, yes, I see that Adobe "portfolio" embeds flash inside the PDF...
[23:20] <Jamie_1> any suggestions jturek... i really need some sort of image editor... (was hoping i could get gimp running)
[23:21] <jturek> zacktu, There are notes on Launchpad that possibly "evince" can open some PDF portfiolo features
[23:21] <zacktu> I've tried Chrome in addition to Firefox because I thought that Chrome would handle flash better.  Nothing changed, however.
[23:22] <zacktu> I'll look there and see what I can find.  Thanks much.
[23:22] <sveta> just don't use flash. it's so non-standard and dependant on the implementation...
[23:23] <BrianH> Hey guys.  Any recommendation for a scanner app?  I have a TON of obituaries cutout from my local news paper dating back several years, and I'm looking for something that I can use to easily scan 4-5 images at a time and fast file name entry.
[23:24] <BrianH> Simple Scan seems to work, but I can't find a way to set PNG as the default image format.
[23:24] <BrianH> I can't even figure out how to use Xane to crop.
[23:25] <Bashing-om> xreal: Lubuntu will not fit on a CD, requires a DCD (or USB); If this is a DVD, can you boot " try ubuntu " ? Have you verified the burn ?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> DVD*
[23:26] <xreal> Bashing-om: Sure, Lubuntu is about 700 MB.
[23:26] <xreal> Bashing-om: It boots, anything is fine. But when selecting the live or installation mode, it stopps at the splash.
[23:26] <xreal> Bashing-om: I think, the hardware is too old.
[23:26] <Bashing-om> xreal: Last I tried, lubuntu was 706 Mb .
[23:26] <meshuggah> BrianH, seem  simplescan can save as png
[23:27] <u53j> j
[23:27] <xreal> Bashing-om: trust me, the size of the iso is *not* the problem.
[23:27] <BrianH> megabit|away, yeah, but every time I save a new image it defaults to jpg.  Any way to make it PNG?
[23:27] <xreal> I really think about reinstalling Windows XP :(
[23:27] <BrianH> er, meshuggah  ^^
[23:27] <u53j> you cant install windows xp. its a vegetable now
[23:27] <meshuggah> BrianH, or skanlite
[23:27] <BrianH> I just discovered I might be able to use Gimp to do this.
[23:28] <meshuggah> BrianH, yes too
[23:28] <BrianH> checking it out now ...
[23:28] <u53j> any good software for calculus?
[23:29] <Spec-Chum> u53j, no but there's plenty of derivatives
[23:29] <Spec-Chum> boom, boom
[23:29] <meshuggah> u53j, dunno check there http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Mathematics_software
[23:30] <Spec-Chum> I just use wolframalpha
[23:31] <jarray52> Would someone using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS dpaste their /etc/resolv.conf file? Namely, I'm wondering whether a domain is present.
[23:32] <u53j> is ok im using one online
[23:32] <u53j> thanks though
[23:33] <u53j> so flash player doesnt support linux anymore
[23:33] <wastrel> jarray52: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[23:33] <wastrel> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[23:33] <bazhang> !find pepperflash
[23:33] <bazhang> u53j, see above
[23:33] <DalekSec> bazhang: Better to use the thing from partner, IMO.
[23:33] <DalekSec> !info adobe-flashplugin partner
[23:33] <dduarte> jarray52 -> thats it ... http://dpaste.com/1RQ72Y7
[23:34] <bazhang> DalekSec, nice one, thanks
[23:34] <DalekSec> (Has both PPAPI and NPAPI)
[23:34] <DalekSec> bazhang: Sure thing.
[23:34] <u53j> but it does not support linux anymore, any reason why?
[23:34] <promet> xreal, sometimes, on older hardware, especially low-ram hardware, the live-cd/usb installs can seem to stall/crash, but are actually still working in the backgroun. I've sometimes had them go on for quite a bit, loading/extracting data into ram before proceeding.
[23:34] <bazhang> u53j, it does
[23:34] <meshuggah> u53j, illuminati
[23:34] <promet> just a thought...
[23:35] <bazhang> u53j, we just gave you two options for flash
[23:35] <xreal> promet: 2 GHz Dual-Core isn't *that* slow :) But the HDD isn't blinking anymore.
[23:35] <u53j> i already have flash, thanks
[23:35] <xreal> promet: sorry, 2x 1.8 GHz :(
[23:35] <bazhang> u53j, its still there for linux
[23:35] <u53j> thats not what the official website says
[23:36] <jarray52> dduarte: Thanks. You don't have a domain listed either. Do you have dns hostnames when you run a command such as `nmap -sP 192.168.*.0/24` where * is the number of your local network?
[23:36] <bazhang> u53j, the repos say otherwise, so not important
[23:36] <u53j> i mean, it is still availalble yeah
[23:36] <promet> xreal that, I think, cpu spec? I'm referring to the ram, which is where the os must operate from; i.e. not a cpu bottle-neck, but a ram bottle-neck
[23:37] <u53j> get ssd
[23:37] <meshuggah> =(
[23:37] <meshuggah> oops wrong channel, sorry
[23:37] <xreal> promet: it's 4 GB. Debian installation work with 64 MB RAM... I wonder, why (L)ubuntu is that bad?
[23:37] <xreal> works*
[23:37] <u53j> i like ubuntu for work
[23:37] <histo> xreal: you only have 64mb of ram?
[23:37] <promet> xreal, hmmmmm, yeah, that should do it. that's unexpected...
[23:38] <xreal> histo: I've got 4 GB :)
[23:38] <u53j> how old is that computer?
[23:38] <xreal> u53j: I think about 6 years?
[23:38] <histo> I'm running a dual core at 1.2ghz right now
[23:38] <xreal> u53j: let me just check.
[23:38] <dduarte> jarray52 -> I'll do a check here, 1 moment. I never did it before in my LAN XD
[23:38] <histo> speeds up to 2.2 as needed
[23:38] <u53j> overcloking it will help
[23:38] <meshuggah> histo, how is ubuntu running on it?
[23:38] <promet> try Xubuntu, or maybe, since it's kind of beefy, actually, for "old hardware", try Mate
[23:39] <histo> meshuggah: not running ubuntu right now. I have in the past and it's usable.
[23:39] <histo> meshuggah: An ssd will help greatly.
[23:39] <promet> I've also had some live-distros just "not like the hardware", for no good reason I had the time to find out...
[23:39] <histo> meshuggah: right now I'm running i3 or xfce on Arch linux with this setup.
[23:40] <meshuggah> histo, nice, this is fast
[23:40] <xreal> u53j: It's 8 years old. Fujitsu AMILO Pro V3515
[23:40] <Guest21173> mint (14.04) x64 having two issues. 1) sudoers not taking my entry: "user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" and 2) /etc/rc.local has conky and doesn't run at boot/login
[23:40] <u53j> this is a i5 480, running fast with my ssd 240
[23:41] <histo> Ubuntu will run fine on a dualcore.  You will certainly notice a speed difference running xubuntu or lubuntu though.
[23:41] <EriC^^> Guest21173: you shouldn't run conky as root
[23:41] <Guest21173> EriC^^, okay I'll add it to bash profile for my user
[23:41] <dduarte> jarray52 -> Hm, nope... The scan doesn't show the reverse name
[23:41] <u53j> the best way to avoid problem like this is to get a lighter version
[23:41] <EriC^^> Guest21173: conky has an option for autostarting
[23:41] <histo> Guest21173: conky doesn't belong in rc.local or your bash profile
[23:41] <histo> Guest21173: also use visudo  to edit your sudoers
[23:41] <EriC^^> Guest21173: it adds itself to the startup apps
[23:42] <dduarte> jarray52 -> (only Mac ADDR and IP addr)
[23:42] <Guest21173> histo, was editing sudoers as root
[23:42] <histo> Guest21173: yes
[23:42] <jarray52> dduarte: Every other machine I have (macbook, debian box) does show the dns name. Furthermore, I can' ping by dns name on my Ubuntu box, but I can on my other boxes.
[23:42] <histo> Guest21173: use visudo
[23:43] <jarray52> dduarte: I'm inclined to believe this may be a configuration bug.
[23:43] <jarray52> dduarte: Would you post your /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file?
[23:44] <dduarte> jarray52 -> yep, it's can be a bug, surely...
[23:44] <dduarte> jarray52 -> http://dpaste.com/2BN3JD4
[23:45] <jarray52> dduarte: Do you know what ofono is? I have that as well, and I was thinking it is the source of the problem. Do you have Skype installed?
[23:45] <Guest21173> histo, re-added entry using visudo: "user    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" and still prompted for password
[23:45] <mcphail> Guest21173: are you running Mint or proper Ubuntu. We can't support Mint here
[23:46] <u53j> mint oreos...
[23:46] <Guest21173> mcphail, mint, however it's based on ubuntu and sudo is the same system
[23:46] <meshuggah> Guest21173, mint got its own network
[23:46] <Ben64> Guest21173: mint isn't supported here. try #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[23:46] <mcphail> Guest21173: based on Ubuntu is not the same as Ubuntu
[23:47] <Guest21173> So you're saying sudo binary is compiled differently on mint vs ubuntu?
[23:47] <meshuggah> Guest21173, #linuxmint-help or #linuxmint-chat there, they provide support on -chat as well as in -help
[23:47] <Ben64> it could be
[23:47] <dduarte> jarray52 -> I dont know... Yep, I have skype installed here
[23:47] <dduarte> (the official deb from Microsoft, btw)
[23:48] <mcphail> Guest21173: the point is, we don't know. It wastes everyone's time as we don't know the differences
[23:48] <jarray52> dduarte: Could be a MS introduced bug in their deb package as opposed to an Ubuntu bug. Guess we need some info from someone without Skype installed.
[23:48] <beterraba> hey
[23:48] <beterraba> i just installed skype
[23:48] <beterraba> it seems to be working fine
[23:48] <beterraba> if you need some input..
[23:49] <jarray52> Would someone without Skype installed dpaste their /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file?
[23:49] <beterraba> i'd be glad to assist
[23:49] <jarray52> beterraba: Would you dpaste /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf?
[23:49] <beterraba> so, u're looking for someone with or without skype?
[23:50] <Ben64> dduarte: http://sprunge.us/gWKA
[23:50] <jarray52> Yah, but I'm curious if you have the same problem as dduarte and I.
[23:50] <beterraba> ok sure
[23:50] <beterraba> let me see here
[23:50] <dduarte> jarray52 -> It can be... Unfortunally, I can't test this right now =\. I hope what someone could help you
[23:51] <jarray52> dduarte: Thanks for your thus far.
[23:51] <dduarte> jarray52 -> u'r welcome =)
[23:51] <Ben64> oh, that paste was for jarray52
[23:51] <dduarte> beterraba -> Can you paste the resolv.conf and networkmanager.conf for him?
[23:51] <jarray52> beterraba: What happens when you run `nmap -sP 192.168.*.0/24` on your box. Do you get hostnames? Can you ping other boxes on your local network by hostname?
[23:52] <jarray52> dduarte: Thanks
[23:52] <jarray52> Ben64: You don't have Skype installed, correct?
[23:53] <Ben64> correct
[23:53] <jarray52> Ben64: Would you paste /etc/resolv.conf?
[23:53] <beterraba> jarray52: http://pastebin.com/EJhG7P3U
[23:53] <Ben64> jarray52: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:53] <beterraba> this is the NetworkManager.conf file
[23:53] <beterraba> let me see for the nmap
[23:54] <meshuggah> isnt resolv.conf some ip from your isp?
[23:54] <jarray52> Ben64: You don't have a domain in /etc/resolv.conf?
[23:54] <Ben64> nope, thats the only non comment line
[23:54] <dduarte> jarray52 -> Btw, here is a reference for ofono: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OFono
[23:55] <meshuggah> mine say generated dhcpd eth0 with some isp ip
[23:55] <meshuggah> dunno if that can be of help
[23:55] <jarray52> Ben64: When you run 'nmap -sP 192.168.*.0/24' where * is the number assigned on your local network, do you get hostnames? can you ping a machine on your local network by hostname?
[23:56] <jarray52> I'm starting to believe this is an Ubuntu configuration bug.
[23:56] <beterraba> im trying to run the nmap line
[23:57] <beterraba> how do i see the number of my assignet network?
[23:57] <jarray52> beterraba: ifconfig
[23:57] <beterraba> ..
[23:57] <Bashing-om> jarray52: A thought : sysop@1404mini:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf >> nameserver 192.168.0. ; where my router is my nameserver.
[23:57] <Ben64> jarray52: only the hostname i have set in /etc/hosts
[23:57] <beterraba> where exactly in ifconfig
[23:58] <beterraba> well, i tried for <IP_ADDRESS>/24.. nothing appears
[23:58] <beterraba> nmap keeps loading, no output..
[23:59] <meshuggah> resolv.conf is for dns, not router ip, right?