[05:27] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, ok dmesg, should i be grepping for something?
[05:27] <dr_willis> quunick,  whatver fitx your pc and budget.
[05:27] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...as well as /var/log/syslog
[05:27] <Tarkus> dr_willis, im not sure how to use winscp.. or even what it is..
[05:27] <PanzerMKZ> 30$ is costly to you?
[05:27] <dr_willis> Tarkus,  a rather trivial to use windows program that lets you use ssh to transfer files. one of my top 10 windows tools :)
[05:27] <jamster545> quunick a good cheap brand is Diablotek and it is available at www.tigerdirect.com
[05:27] <sdf> i want install ide for ruby how?
[05:28] <CocoAUS> someone try to access my gnump3d server please
[05:28] <CocoAUS> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:6868/
[05:28] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I tried changing it, but it still gives me same error bout FreeFontPath, how do I change that I just changed it in my xorg.conf. IS there somewhere else I need to change it?
[05:28] <Tarkus> rococo, either way would be fine. but the local network folder sharing sounds like it would be the fastest/easiest way, no?
[05:28] <quunick> dr_willis: what I meant was, for 2d, is the amount of vram most important, or the clock speed, or the pipelines or what? I don't know anything about those
[05:28] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...if it is a scsi tape drive, it should have something about sd
[05:28] <dr_willis> quunick,  thers some nvidia card with tv out (a 5500?) that has a fanless design even. I need to get one for my MythTV box for its quietness.
[05:28] <quunick> cool, I'll take a look
[05:28] <excalibas> is it easyer to use ftp to transfer files from linux to xp?
[05:28] <PanzerMKZ> I got a 5200 with tv out
[05:28] <dr_willis> quunick,  worrying about '2d' any more is.. well..  not even an issue.
[05:28] <jamster545> quunick
[05:28] <Tru7h> How do I force quit something?
[05:28] <PanzerMKZ> I think mine was 40
[05:28] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ no...have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:29] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yes many times
[05:29] <quunick> lol it is for my card... but then again it was made in the 90s
[05:29] <lockd> dr_willis: quunick: unless it doesn't support hardware accel
[05:29] <dr_willis> quunick,  when you can get 512mb cards under $50 :) its  a good life.
[05:29] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, so dmesg|grep sd and cat /var/log/syslog|grep sd? anything in particular I should tell him to look for in there? i assume its going to have a lot of false positives in the search
[05:29] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h force quit from what...? a terminal?
[05:29] <lockd> dr_willis: quunick: then, 2d can be sluggishly unusable even on high end cards
[05:29] <jamster545> quunick there is another good brand with many good models that dont cost much... it is Diablotek and it has NVidia GPU's in it. go to www.tigerdirect.com
[05:29] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h ctl-c in the terminal
[05:29] <PanzerMKZ> hmm 512 megs vid card for under 50$
[05:30] <PanzerMKZ> I guress that I need to upgrade then
[05:30] <PanzerMKZ> mine is only 128
[05:30] <Tru7h> I have the install window open and it's frozen. It's not anywhere where it would be doing anything, it's on the keyboard layout screen. I can't close it and I dont see anything in the processes that looks like the install window
[05:30] <dr_willis> I think that 5500 i was looking at had 512
[05:30] <dr_willis> or was it a 5200
[05:30] <cafuego> 512Mb for mythtv is retarded. get a secondhand radeon <heh>
[05:30] <jamster545> i am done for the night... byes!
[05:30] <dr_willis> cafuego,  it was free. :)
[05:30] <pc_> dfwlinux, my screen starts up, but it like it doesn't know what to load. What does startx start? like where is the file telling it what to start.
[05:30] <rococo> Tarkus: well, the shared folder thing I'd recommend if you intend to toss content back and forth over that network all the time. I personally use ftp or sftp to do my transfers, for one because they're usually over the internet. The ftp stuff is cool because you could get the files to your laptop from ANYWHERE
[05:30] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...since I can't look at it personally, I can tell you to look carefully at the output of dmesg and you should be able to determine if there are errors with the drive
[05:30] <cafuego> dr_willis: that's alright then
[05:30] <dr_willis> cafuego,  and i wanted nvidia for the tv out mainly
[05:30] <dr_willis> ati's tvout  is -- well .. not always working
[05:31] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...if you have any scsi drives or sata drives, yes there will be output from them
[05:31] <Tarkus> rococo, but that would be slower then, and take up my bandwidth too?
[05:31] <PanzerMKZ> well I got some issues with macrovision
[05:31] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, hes basically relying on me to help him use this tape drive and ive never even seen a tape drive in my life, but will cat /proc/scsi/scsi at least tell me where in /dev it is so i can try tar?
[05:31] <pc_> dfwlinux, my screen starts up, but it like it doesn't know what to load. What does startx start? like where is the file telling it what to start.
[05:31] <rococo> Tarkus: it'd only take up your bandwidth when you're transfering files
[05:31] <cafuego> dr_willis: *nod* I run my laptop as mythfrontend; atitvout works fine with it's buuiltin radeon - but for a new myth box i'd probably go nvidia too.
[05:31] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, my screen starts up, but it like it doesn't know what to load. What does startx start? like where is the file telling it what to start.
[05:31] <Tarkus> rococo, i just need to be able to send a few video files (5GB) to my laptop the easiest way.
[05:31] <f4ramir> I can connect to my wifi network fine with XP and WPA enabled. But when I try it from feisty it fails. It works fine without WPA though. Any idea why?
[05:32] <Tru7h> I have the install window open and it's frozen. It's not anywhere where it would be doing anything, it's on the keyboard layout screen. I can't close it and I dont see anything in the processes that looks like the install window
[05:32] <f4ramir> How can I troubleshoot this?
[05:32] <dr_willis> cafuego,  a new mythbox = lots of old parts  :)
[05:32] <rococo> Tarkus: alright, then from the GUI, make a new folder. right-click it and choose "share this folder"
[05:32] <quunick> oh wait, it also has to be agp 4x :/
[05:32] <rococo> Tarkus: (this being in Ubuntu)
[05:32] <Tru7h> The "Abort the installation?" window is also open but it's frozen to
[05:32] <Tarkus> rococo alright
[05:32] <rococo> Tarkus: it should take you through a process to install the sharing services
[05:32] <lockd> are there any vid cards with open source drivers good enough to run something 2d like "cfplus"?
[05:33] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ look at /etc/X11/Xsession
[05:33] <cafuego> dr_willis: nah, I don't have quiet old parts - only howling-fan stuff ;-)
[05:33] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, also,  the tape drive is connected through a scsi pci card if that is relevant
[05:33] <rococo> Tarkus: it'll let you install SMB (windows network) support
[05:33] <dr_willis> !find cfplus
[05:33] <ubotu> Package/file cfplus does not exist in feisty
[05:33] <Tarkus> rococo, ok its installing both the suport services.
[05:34] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...all scsi devices should show up as /dev/sd* (sda/sdb/sdg)
[05:34] <lockd> dr_willis: how soon you rush to search
[05:34] <Tarkus> rococo, ok, its done installing
[05:34] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, in cat /proc/scsi/scsi?
[05:34] <Tarkus> rococo, do i just say "share thorugh: windows network (SMB)"?
[05:34] <knuhli1> how does this work?
[05:34] <quunick> dr_willis: do you have a link to that fanless 5500?
[05:34] <Tru7h> Meh
[05:35] <rococo> Tarkus: yep
[05:35] <Tru7h> I'll just restart
[05:35] <rococo> Tru7h: I answered you before. But anyway, it's totally frozen?
[05:35] <Tru7h> Oh?
[05:35] <rococo> Tru7h: does hitting alt+f1 do anything?
[05:35] <dr_willis> quunick,  i saw mention of it on the "Dragon" Mythtv machine site i was researching  a few weeks ago.
[05:35] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...I don't think that is going to tell you much
[05:35] <Tarkus> rococo, ok. done
[05:35] <dr_willis> quunick,  im not sure if the thing is even still made however. :()
[05:35] <Tru7h> Alt+F1 brings up the applications menu
[05:35] <Tarkus> rococo, now am i supposed to be able to see it from the laptop?
[05:35] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I don't know how to edit that /etc/X11/xsessions, any help one what I need to do? or what that loads?
[05:36] <dr_willis> quunick,  you are looking for an AGP card right? not a PCi?
[05:36] <Prdez> hiiiiiiii
[05:36] <rococo> Tarkus: okay, now you should be able to put the files into that folder. have your windows laptop look for network folders, and it should find it
[05:36] <blue42> exit
[05:36] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...If it is in your system and is causing an error it will show up in dmesg and syslog
[05:36] <quunick> dr_willis: right. 4x
[05:36] <Prdez> my 1920x1200 monitor doesn't work in native in 7.04
[05:36] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, ok rgr, stick with dmesg|grep sd and cat /var/log/syslog|grep sd, but aren't tape drives sometimes like /dev/st0 or something like that, even if they are scsi?
[05:36] <Tarkus> rococo, alright, thanks ill check if its there.
[05:36] <Prdez> radeon x1950 fglrx driver
[05:36] <Tru7h> rococo, Alt+F1 brings up the applications menu
[05:36] <rococo> Tru7h: oh, so it's not frozen?
[05:37] <rococo> Tru7h: the install process is just halted?
[05:37] <Tru7h> The windows are
[05:37] <dr_willis> quunick, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121019
[05:37] <Tru7h> they wont do anything or close
[05:37] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...no it should be /dev/sd(something)
[05:37] <quunick> dr_willis: thanks
[05:37] <rococo> Tru7h: well, you know how it told you to look at the syslog?
[05:37] <dr_willis> only 255 ram - but its cheape rnoe then it used to be! :)
[05:37] <quunick> Tru7h: you can restart gnome by doing ctrl alt delete. But you probably knew that
[05:37] <Tarkus> rococo, nope, i dont see it.. i looked in Network and i onyl see the laptop computer in there.
[05:37] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_....ok..you run startx and it gives you an error about not finding the font path right?
[05:38] <dr_willis> ahh - it uses system ram i think.
[05:38] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy yes FPE
[05:38] <Tru7h> rococo: Yes. The syslog wouldn't open with nano or text editor though, and when I try to copy it to my external drive it says I don't have permission
[05:38] <dr_willis> thats why its so cheap
[05:38] <rococo> Tarkus: did you tell the laptop to search for computers/folders on the network via the network settings?
[05:38] <Tru7h> Okay
[05:38] <quunick> dr_willis: lets see, that is at least 8 times my video ram
[05:38] <duvnell> is there a way to list the services from the command line (much like chkconfig  --list  on other distroes)?
[05:38] <rococo> Tru7h: you need to use sudo
[05:38] <Tru7h> Rococo: I did
[05:38] <Vanax> So i think i messed up something while getting wine and wow to work, is there a way i can like, undo everythign i did? haha
[05:38] <Tarkus> rococo, no. not sure where to do that.
[05:38] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_....can you use pastebin to paste the contents of your xorg.conf?
[05:39] <rococo> Tru7h: oh, you need to make your external drive writable (should be able to via the properties)
[05:39] <Tru7h> rococo: I'll just restart\
[05:39] <excalibas> what settings should i use in winscp?
[05:39] <knuhli1> I have a Broadcom 4306 wireless card, and I've installed fwcutter etc to get it up and running. However, when I try to switch between wireless and wired, occasionally everything (starting programs, logging off, even keyboard)  stops working. Does anyone know what might be causing this?
[05:39] <Tru7h> and retry the install
[05:39] <pc_> unfortunately no, because I am currently in irssi on that machine and can't copy and paste.
[05:39] <Tru7h> I've alrweady got it partitioned
[05:39] <rococo> Tru7h: yeah,restarting might fix it, but get the logs if it happens again
[05:39] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, unfortunately no, because I am currently in irssi on that machine and can't copy and paste.
[05:39] <Tru7h> Okay
[05:39] <dfwlinuxguy> knuhli1...i recently had to un-install fwcutter to get my wireless card working in my laptop after the latest kernel upgrade
[05:40] <quunick> dr_willis: it looks awesome - I'm looking for a similar agp version
[05:40] <rococo> Tarkus: It's somewhere in either "My Networks" or... one of those network settings you can get through via my computer/control panel in XP.
[05:41] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ ok all of my fontpath in xorg.conf starts with /usr/share/fonts/X11/ except this one - Fontpath        "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
[05:41] <rococo> Tarkus: sorry, unless someone else knows, I think you'll have to search - I have no Windows machine in front of me and it's been too long for me to tell you it *exactly* from memory
[05:41] <knuhli1> dfwlinuxguy... why does uninstalling it help to get the card working?
[05:41] <Prdez> my 1920x1200 monitor doesn't work in native in 7.04
[05:41] <Prdez> radeon x1950 fglrx driver
[05:41] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ is that the way yours looks?
[05:41] <ribo> how do I get a proper serial console with upstart (god I miss inittab)
[05:41] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, let me check
[05:41] <dr_willis> quunick,  heh so am i.. there was an agp one out..
[05:41] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yes
[05:42] <excalibas> what should i put in hostname on winscp?
[05:42] <dfwlinuxguy> knuhli1 I am just as frustrated as you...it seems that every kernel upgrade in feisty causes me to look for a new solution for my wireless card....that is what worked for me
[05:42] <quunick> found a 50 dollar one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130014
[05:42] <Pelo> Prdez, do you have the ati drivers installed ? if so you can add the extra resolutions you need for your screen to xorg.conf
[05:42] <rococo> Tarkus: http://www.home-network-help.com/shared-folder.html
[05:42] <PanzerMKZ> the ip addy
[05:42] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, see when I type startx it comes up with a grey colored screen, which I have seen before meaning there is no window manager. But I can't figure out how to tell it which window manager to run.
[05:42] <PanzerMKZ> or the computer name
[05:42] <dukens> He
[05:42] <dukens> hello
[05:42] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ the grey screen with the X in the middle?
[05:42] <Prdez> ok, aticonfig yeah.
[05:42] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yep
[05:43] <dukens> I need some help
[05:43] <dasm1> how do I get a copy of all the start-up messages? (i tried dmesg, but that wasn't what i was looking for)
[05:43] <SlickMcRunfast> are there any other programs like Evolution/Outlook for Linux?
[05:43] <Tom47>  !ask > dukens
[05:43] <Pelo> dukens,  just state your issus and if someone can help they will try
[05:43] <PanzerMKZ> not a bad card
[05:43] <Toma-> quunick: ive got one of those, but mine has a fan. youre not going to be gamimg with it are you?
[05:43] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ can you see anything relevant in ~/.xsession-errors
[05:43] <dr_willis> SlickMcRunfast,  you mean other Email clients?
[05:43] <dukens> I wanna know to installe gstreamer on my UBUNTU
[05:43] <dfwlinuxguy> slickmcrunfast...I like thunderbird
[05:43] <SlickMcRunfast> not just email
[05:44] <klobster> is it possible for me to play wma files in linux?
[05:44] <Prdez> thunderbird is replacement for outlook express
[05:44] <SlickMcRunfast> calender task memo
[05:44] <Pelo> dukens,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager   use the search feature
[05:44] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I don't even have that file or the ~/.xsession
[05:44] <knuhli1> dfwlinuxguy... well, i'll poke around i guess. it's just weird in my case because the card usually works fine, there are just some weird, random, and disastrous problems
[05:44] <dr_willis> klobster,  depending on their codec.. yes.
[05:44] <SlickMcRunfast> and its integrated
[05:44] <quunick> Toma-: wesnoth : ) lol not really gaming. This is my P3 machine, I game on my other one
[05:44] <dfwlinuxguy> slickmcrunfast...It doesn't have all the features of outlook, but evolution has proved buggy to me
[05:44] <klobster> dr_willis: how can I find out what codec they are?
[05:44] <Pelo> dukens,  I do not take private msg , please talk to me in the channel
[05:44] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I don't even have that file or the ~/.xsession
[05:44] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ "~/.xsession-errors"
[05:45] <nsap> Im having a problem isntalling ubuntu 7.04
[05:45] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, nope don't have that, or the ~/.xsession
[05:45] <Toma-> quunick: ahh ok. ive had alot of mega-crashes with fanless gfx cards, as they overheat pretty easy. especially if you run quake3 or something fun :)
[05:45] <dr_willis> klobster,  try to play them and look at the messages in the terminal i guess.. Personally if its a wma file.. i dont bother with them. :)
[05:45] <nsap> its not letting me boot to the live CD to install it
[05:45] <dr_willis> klobster,  some 'spyware/porn/malware' wmv's try to get windows to download Viruses/or worse.
[05:45] <quunick> Toma-: lol. I got a pretty good fanless 7600GS that hasn't failed me yet
[05:45] <Toma-> quunick: also, the fact that they sit right underneath the cpu heatsink on most ATX cases, is just a stupid design flaw
[05:45] <pc_> nsap, you need to go into your bios and change boot order to boot the cd first
[05:45] <Pelo> nsap, what videocard do you have on your comp ?
[05:45] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ result of "whoami"
[05:45] <Toma-> quunick: lucky D
[05:45] <Toma-> :D
[05:46] <dr_willis> klobster,  most should be playable with the right codecs installed.
[05:46] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, pc
[05:46] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ and you are running startx as pc?
[05:46] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yep
[05:46] <nsap> im using an ATI radeon 9250
[05:46] <timothy> anyone know how i can get my laptop to "wake" properly from suspend?
[05:46] <klobster> dr_willis: sprint only lets me have system copies of my music in wma format, so I am stuck with them.
[05:47] <mobutu> hi my sound doesn't work after hibernation
[05:47] <mobutu> i have 'resumed'
[05:47] <PanzerMKZ> I like nvida
[05:47] <quaal> does ubuntu/ubuntu server have any ability to manage the machine acting as a file server thorugh http:// as you would a NAS server ?
[05:47] <PanzerMKZ> for vid cards
[05:47] <mobutu> is there something i can do to make the sound work ? (without rebooting)
[05:47] <Pelo> nsap,  you will need to use the alternate install cd to install ubuntu and install the video drivers afterwards
[05:47] <klobster> mobutu: what sound card?
[05:47] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ I'm sorry..can you tell me the exact error you are getting again (sorry)
[05:47] <dr_willis> klobster,  i wouldent buy anything more from sprint then. Thers ways  around that i imagine.
[05:47] <nsap> it boots to the disk and then i click start/installl
[05:47] <dukens> hi
[05:47] <nsap> and it begins the process and give me a long error message
[05:47] <Pelo> nsap,  you will need to use the alternate install cd to install ubuntu and install the video drivers afterwards
[05:48] <nsap> ok ty
[05:48] <mobutu> klobster: lspci | grep audio tells me:  Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[05:48] <klobster> dr_willis: I get one free per month with my internet plan, but since I don't use windows , I can only play them on my phone.
[05:48] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, okay when i type startx, it says some stuff about can't init fontpath, then it says waiting for x server to shutdown, FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1, fixin
[05:48] <Random_Transit> hey, question....why are all the fonts in my KDE apps much larger when i run those apps in GNOME?
[05:48] <klobster> sound works if you reboot, mobuto/
[05:48] <dr_willis> klobster,  they let you download one song free per month? Gee how generous of them :)
[05:48] <rococo> quaal: sorry, I use Debian for my server needs. you might have better luck at #ubuntu-server though
[05:48] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ do you have defoma installed?
[05:48] <mobutu> klobster: yeah i know it'll work if i reboot.  i don't want to reboot!
[05:49] <quaal> rococo, debian is fine
[05:49] <dukens> I got controler volume gstreamer not installed
[05:49] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ dpkg --list defoma
[05:49] <mohsin> hi dear i can't see my bootsplash can any one help me
[05:49] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, umm... i don't think so I willt try to install it sudo apt-get install defoma right?
[05:49] <mobutu> klobster: sound would work after hiberation when i was running Edgy
[05:49] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:49] <mohsin> ?
[05:49] <quunick> dr_willis: here's one - probably underpowered though. can't beat the price :) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143098
[05:49] <quaal> rococo, does it have a NAS capability as i mentioned, with http:// configuration ?
[05:49] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ dpkg --list defoma
[05:49] <klobster> dr_willis: nice perk with the unlimited internet access.
[05:49] <Random_Transit> can anyone answer my question?
[05:49] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ yes apt-get install defoma
[05:49] <dukens> tom is there please
[05:49] <mohsin> hi dear i can't see my bootsplash can any one help me
[05:49] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, ddfwlinuxguy, already the newest version
[05:49] <dr_willis> quunick,   that one is way too old for the $$$
[05:49] <mohsin> or noxt
[05:50] <dr_willis> quunick,  is spend the extra $20 on a better one.
[05:50] <klobster> mobuto: just checking if it _did_ work, hold on I believe I know this issue, but let me research, are you gnome or KDE?
[05:50] <mobutu> gnome
[05:50] <dukens> qlq'1 peut m'aider S.V.P
[05:50] <quunick> dr_willis: alright...
[05:50] <mohsin> hi dear i can't see my bootsplash can any one help me
[05:50] <rococo> quaal: there are a lot of HTTP configuration tools for linux-based servers. I do my management with SSH, but I've heard great things about webmin - I don't know whether it handles NAS services, though
[05:50] <mohsin> or nor the text
[05:50] <quunick> Core clock       275 MHz
[05:50] <dukens> please brothers
[05:50] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ I'm running out of answers here..have you tried re-booting?
[05:50] <Tom47> !fr > dukens
[05:50] <quunick> not very fast
[05:51] <rococo> quaal: pretty sure it does, though. it configures a LOT
[05:51] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, to many times :)
[05:51] <brylie> how can I determine what alsa device something is outputting to?
[05:51] <dukens> oui Tom47
[05:51] <brylie>  I've got a desktop recorder that is set to record audio from hw:0,0
[05:51] <mohsin> any one answer me or not
[05:51] <mohsin> ?
[05:51] <brylie> and xmms is playing audio via alsa
[05:51] <dr_willis> quunick,   a geforce4mx is like UBER old. theser days.. heh heh..  even onboard video can out perform them now. :)
[05:51] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ w/o seeing your xorg.conf... I don't know where to go next
[05:51] <brylie> but there is only static crackling when I playback the capture
[05:51] <pc_> mohsin, try sudo apt-get install gdm
[05:51] <quunick> haha ok
[05:51] <mobutu> anyone know the name of the package i would install for kde?  I don't want to install kde-desktop right now and overwrite the fact i boot into gnome
[05:52] <dr_willis> mobutu,  kubuntu-desktop, but that last part of your statement made no sence.
[05:52] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, see I think the problem is startx doesn't have a clue what window manager I need to load. If I could figure out how to tell it. that would probably fix it.
[05:52] <dukens> j'ai pas de son sur Ubuntu poutant il reconnait bien la carte son
[05:52] <mobutu> i think if i install kubuntu-desktop, it will replace gdm with kdm.  right ?
[05:52] <andre_pl> mobutu, kdesktop, kde-network, kde-multimedia etc etc.
[05:52] <brylie> it won't overrite your gnome boot mobutu
[05:52] <dr_willis> mobutu,  not really
[05:52] <steev_> mobutu: it asks you which is the default
[05:52] <quaal> rococo, thank you much
[05:52] <mohsin> pc: i tried that by the same black window
[05:52] <dr_willis> you can pick what Xdm to use
[05:52] <Tom47> mobutu selection of which gdm you boot into is on the login screen
[05:52] <rococo> quaal: rereading your original question, yes, I'm pretty positive webmin is what you're looking for. And no problem!
[05:52] <mohsin> and its realy anoying me
[05:52] <brylie> it will let you choose betweet gdm and kdm mobutu
[05:52] <EADG_> !fr | dukens
[05:53] <ubotu> dukens: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:53] <dfwlinuxguy> mobutu ...http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132030-c,linux/article.html
[05:53] <mobutu> klobster: i tried sound while running fluxbox, didn't work either
[05:53] <philc_> is it possible to have scp transmit a group of files as one (have it zip them up or something) and then extract them on the remote machine? Or is this something I should write myself? I'd think it would be a fairly common task, since transmitting 50 small files is much slower than one big zip file
[05:53] <pc_> Does anyone know how to tell STARTX, what window manager you want it to load?
[05:53] <quunick> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814170065
[05:53] <mohsin> pc: can u ans me
[05:53] <mohsin> ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> pc_,  edit/make a .xinitrc file
[05:53] <mobutu> philc_: you could tar up a directory , pipe it through ssh , extra it with tar
[05:54] <dukens> merci
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ cho "/usr/local/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <pc_> mohsin, someone gave you a link to pcworld.com try that
[05:54] <rococo> philc_: you can log in via ssh, zip up the files using tar.gz, and then get the .tar.gz file with scp
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ echo "/usr/local/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <andrewkk> do i have to do anything special to install a .tar.gz under amd64?
[05:54] <klobster> mobuto: so you are running gnome? (apt-get install kde-desktop, BTW)... is it a thinkpad?
[05:54] <dukens> EADG peux-tu m'aider?
[05:54] <quunick> same core clock speed though
[05:54] <mohsin> ahan
[05:54] <mohsin> thx
[05:54] <dr_willis> pc_,  example .xinitrc file (2 lines)    xterm &  exec windowmaker
[05:54] <pc_> okay
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ sorry cho "/usr/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ sorry echo "/usr/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <brylie> Andrewkk tar.gz is just a compression farmat like .zip
[05:54] <mobutu> philc_: the command syntax is something like tar -czf - . | ssh user@dest "(cd /destdir && tar -xzvf -)"
[05:55] <quunick> dr_willis: that one only has opengl 1.4
[05:55] <excalibas> dr_willis: in my home network how do i know the name of the server to connect winscp to xubuntuu?
[05:55] <mobutu> klobster: im running gnome, no it is a panasonic toughbook, no thinkpad
[05:55] <Tru7h> Okay
[05:55] <EADG_> dukens: sorry, i can't speak French :/
[05:55] <dr_willis> quunick,  ive said what one id suggest :) saving $5 for 1 /2 the card is not worth it.
[05:55] <kenotz> am i on the right place? i need help in installing ubuntu 7.04
[05:55] <brylie> how can I determine what alsa device something is outputting to?
[05:55] <brylie>  I've got a desktop recorder that is set to record audio from hw:0,0
[05:55] <brylie> and xmms is playing audio via alsa
[05:55] <dr_willis> excalibas,  use its ip# is what i do
[05:55] <brylie> but there is only static crackling when I playback the capture
[05:55] <analfabeta> hi
[05:55] <dfwlinuxguy> kenotz..yes
[05:56] <quunick> dr_willis: yeah. I'll look at those $40 cards now
[05:56] <dr_willis> excalibas,  ifconfig will show the ip#
[05:56] <quunick> something in the 6000 series?
[05:56] <andrewkk> okay. do i have to do anything special to install a program from source under amd64?
[05:56] <mobutu> kenotz: just ask your question
[05:56] <dr_willis> quunick,  yea.  I want one with 2 dvi out however. :) and a tv out.
[05:56] <dukens> ok thanx
[05:56] <dfwlinuxguy> !ask
[05:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:56] <dr_willis> quunick,  And no fan
[05:56] <Tru7h> I have my main windows partition, an ext3 partition, and two hidden partitions that came pre-installed on my computer. I need a swap partition but it says I can only have 4 partitions. How can I fix that??
[05:56] <brylie> should be the same process as installing on a 32 bit platform andrewkk
[05:56] <pc_> Yay, echo the window manager like you said dfwlinuxguy, work THX
[05:56] <mapez> !calc 480+480
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc 480+480 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <analfabeta> i'm trying use a smartlink modem in ubuntu, this is recognized, but sudo pon provider doesnt give me any output and nothing connection... i try pon.wvdial, but nothing too, kppp give me a segmentation fault! what i do?
[05:57] <mapez> bahhhh
[05:57] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ YEAH! cool!
[05:57] <mapez> wrong channel
[05:57] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy THANK YOU A LOT
[05:57] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ no problem
[05:57] <brylie> andrewkk have you attempted to install whatever it is you're inquiring about yet?
[05:57] <klobster> mobuto: what kernel are you on (uname -r)?
[05:57] <pc_> YAY party at PC's
[05:57] <kenotz> ok tnx. i have a problem in booting ubuntu. i can boot it from my dvd rom, install it. but after reboot, got a message something like "error loading operating sytem"
[05:57] <dukens> I don't have son on Ubuntu can you help me to fix it please
[05:57] <andrewkk> brylie: ./configure gives me "machine `x86_64-unknown' not recognized"
[05:58] <klobster> doh! wrong chan...
[05:58] <Tru7h> I'm trying to install Ubuntu. I have my main windows partition, an ext3 partition, and two hidden partitions that came pre-installed on my computer that I'm afraid to mess with. I need a swap partition but it says I can only have 4 partitions. How can I fix that??
[05:58] <quunick> dr_willis: s-video out for tv?
[05:58] <matthew1429> is it so impossible to get VISTA and ubuntu to see each other
[05:58] <brylie> the package you're compiling might not suppord 64 bit architecture
[05:58] <matthew1429> \I haven't found a complete tutorial yet
[05:58] <excalibas> its not working, do i have to do something in xubuntu or just run winscp? and the username and pass are from linux right?
[05:58] <mobutu> klobster: whatever ubuntu shoved down my throat last week, 2.6.20-16-generic
[05:58] <drowner> hell again all
[05:58] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h you need to use extended partitions
[05:58] <drowner> remember me?
[05:58] <Tru7h> dfwlinuxguy: How do I do that?
[05:58] <drowner> hellO rather
[05:58] <kenotz> i guess grub isn't install in my hdd
[05:58] <andrewkk> brylie: alright. :( thanks.
[05:59] <dr_willis> quunick,  yep. :) i want it for my slient mythtv box
[05:59] <brylie> what is the package andrewkk?
[05:59] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h delete partition #4 (swap partition?) and when it asks you to create a partition, create extended not primary
[05:59] <Tru7h> OKay
[05:59] <dukens> EADG do you see my question?
[05:59] <Tru7h> I'll delete the ext3
[05:59] <aabrahao>  I just remove apache, any recomendation for a fresh installation?
[05:59] <Tru7h> and create an ext3 and swap in the extenred partition?
[06:00] <analfabeta> i'm trying use a smartlink modem in ubuntu, this is recognized, but sudo pon provider doesnt give me any output and nothing connection... i try pon.wvdial, but nothing too, kppp give me a segmentation fault! what i do?
[06:00] <Fritz> if you right click on a removable device and change it's mount options, does anybody know where those are saved?
[06:00] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h sorry, please don't delete any of your data..pls be careful
[06:00] <brylie> aabrahao, Ubuntu Server Edition?
[06:00] <Toma-> Anyone know how to save some gconf/theme settings on a livecd?
[06:00] <mobutu> klobster: maybe there is a magical kernel parameter i can tweak?  i hope.
[06:00] <drowner> hi all. i want to resize my NTFS partition and make my ext3 larger
[06:00] <EADG_> dukens: Now I do. Son? Your boy
[06:00] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h yes
[06:00] <drowner> ooh netsplit
[06:00] <quunick> dr_willis, well, good luck. newegg doesn't have any like that
[06:00] <mobutu> drowner: have you tried booting with a livecd and running gparted ?
[06:00] <andrewkk> brylie: i'm following http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Install_Hugin_Panoramic_Tools_and_Enblend and getting the error on libxmi-1.2
[06:00] <Prdez> drowner: use gparted
[06:01] <Tru7h> dfwlinuxguy: Thanks for the concern, but it's okay. I'm on a liveCD and just trying to get everything partitioned correctly to install it. :)
[06:01] <dukens> no sound
[06:01] <drowner> i've got a gparted live cd
[06:01] <brylie> andrewkk there is a hugin package in synaptic
  yes
[06:01] <quunick> DVI[2 ] ,Interface[AGP 4X/8X ] ,Cooler[Fanless ] ,
[06:01] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h make the extended partition the size of the remainder of your drive then you can create addtional extended partitions 5,6,7 as needed
[06:01] <drowner> will moving the ext3 partition 'to the left' mess up grub or my fstab?
[06:01] <Tru7h> dfwlinuxguy: Thanks for your help :)
[06:01] <Prdez> drowner: neither.
[06:01] <drowner> cool
[06:01] <Ishmael> can i get some help with xorg.conf
[06:01] <brylie> andrewkk why do you need to manually compile then?
[06:01] <Ishmael> whats the command to configure xorg?
[06:02] <EADG_> dukens: ahh, ok. Look at the message from ubotu for help url (web site)
[06:02] <EADG_> !sound | dukens
[06:02] <drowner> i would LOVE to delete the ntfs partition (sda1), but i think doing that will more than likely mess up my grub and fstab
[06:02] <ubotu> dukens: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:02] <dukens> the message is:Aucun greffon de contrle de volume GStreamer et/ou priphriques trouvs.
[06:02] <mobutu> Ishmael: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-whateveryourserveris
[06:02] <brylie> !resolution | Ishmael
[06:02] <ubotu> Ishmael: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:02] <Ishmael> thanks
[06:02] <dfwlinuxguy> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:02] <mobutu> oops
[06:02] <andrewkk> brylie: oh wow. last i heard it wasn't in the repos yet. but that was a while ago. i'll try that then. thanks for the help.
[06:03] <drowner> prdez: i would LOVE to delete the ntfs partition (sda1), but i think doing that will more than likely mess up my grub and fstab
[06:03] <dfwlinuxguy> well if no one else needs my help..i'm off
[06:03] <KevinOman> what are the package names for compiz?
[06:03] <Prdez> yes it would
[06:03] <brylie> andrewkk see also 'pandora'
[06:03] <excalibas> dr_willis: it is not working, what is this sshf i just installed in linux, do i have to use this?
[06:04] <klobster> mobotu: it's a bug in the acpi that screws it up here are some possible fixes
[06:04] <mobutu> KevinOman: i think if you install gnome-compiz-manager , it will pull in the dependencies
  yes, any recomendation for a new fresh apache installation?
[06:04] <drowner> prdez: i thought as much. I was asking this earlier. Would it be easier to boot live and fix the fstab and grub? because im not quite ready for a clean isntall
[06:04] <KevinOman> mobutu thanks
[06:04] <Prdez> drowner: i don't have experience with that.
[06:05] <kenotz> anybody here can help me? i cant start ubuntu on my hdd which is on a built-in ATA-100 controller.
[06:05] <klobster> mobotu: there are a couple of options:  try this 'echo shutdown > /sys/power/disk' and then hibernate, unhibernate, and tell me what happens
[06:05] <brylie> aabrahao, I would do a fresh Ubuntu Server Edition install. It comes wich apache, mysql, php preconfigured out of the box
[06:05] <dr_willis> excalibas,  never used sshfs - Its highly likely that vista's firewall is blocking stuff. try disabling it for a while as a test.
[06:05] <drowner> prdez: yeah, fair enough. but i imagine its not a great idea, and would require a fair bit of fiddling. But i can safely move it to the left. thanks for that.
[06:05] <quunick> night all
[06:05] <Fritz> so, my sd card reader was being mounted ro, and I needed rw, so I modified the device settings by right clicking on it when mounted.  Now it won't mount and I can't figure out how to undo those options, any ideas anybody?
[06:05] <brylie> !apache | aabrahao
[06:05] <ubotu> aabrahao: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:05] <dr_willis> excalibas,  sshfs lets your linux box mount ssh  'connections' as if they were partitions. Not what you need I belive.
[06:06] <Prdez> drowner: removing 1st active partition sohuld make next one sda1 unless they are logical partitions
[06:06] <excalibas> dr_willis: the firewall is disabled, i dont need to do nothing on linux, just run winscp should work?
[06:06] <drowner> prdez: there is a logical partition, sda2, but it appears AFTER sda3
[06:06] <workbean> correct me if I'm wrong but anacron will only run during system startup (right?) so I don't shutdown my computer for a month, it won't run the daily tasks daily?
[06:07] <Prdez> drowner: logical partitions start with 5
[06:07] <drowner> prdez: oh, rly?
[06:07] <dr_willis> excalibas,  you do have ssh installed on the linux box?
[06:07] <brylie> !anacron > workbean
[06:07] <drowner> ahh sorry
[06:07] <Prdez> yeah
[06:07] <Prdez> got anything after 5?
[06:07] <drowner> prdez: and EXTENDED partition
[06:07] <scarter> Tom47, dfwlinuxguy: read quite a bit... all these assume you are adding additional packages to create a custom cd not replacing existing old packages with their security/version update debs...  i was thinking of something like the slipstreaming feature in newer m$ products to create updated installs of the same version. any other ideas?
[06:07] <Prdez> drowner: extended is a holder for logical partitions
[06:07] <drowner> yep
[06:08] <excalibas> i just installed sshf with synaptic, but i did  nothing more
[06:08] <Prdez> you could have 4 active and 1 extended and 4 logical
[06:08] <Prdez> in windows
[06:08] <dr_willis> !ssh
[06:08] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:08] <Tom47> scarter je ne parle ms
[06:08] <Tom47> pas
[06:08] <Prdez> so you could have multiple primary and multiple logical
[06:08] <roaet> Hellloo!
[06:09] <dr_willis> excalibas,  i think ya need to have the openssh package installed and started
[06:09] <Prdez> sorry, there's only one active
[06:09] <OmniD> Oh lordie lordie, my x server won't start and I've no clue what to do!
[06:09] <OmniD> I think Beryl overloaded the GPU
[06:09] <excalibas> dr_willis, ok ill do that
[06:09] <OmniD> or... something
[06:09] <roaet> I'm having some intermittent connection issues with my ubuntu server flavor. Sometimes users can connect to the website and other times they can't. Any suggestions for this matter?
[06:09] <Vw1`8t> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install latest version of Ubuntu distro 7.04 AMD64 on my laptop. During install, setup freezes on "loading hardware drivers". What is causing that, and how can I fix it? Take in consideration my knowledge of linux is not that great.
[06:10] <mobutu> klobster: I rebooted, sound worked, I echo shutdown > /sys/power/disk/ , i hibernated, i unhibernated, sound does not work
[06:10] <pyro540> Hello everyone!
 the lamp was installed, and now I just removed the apache and apache2, is the best way to install it the lamp again?
[06:10] <drowner> thanks prdez
[06:10] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: since you are new to linux i suggest you choose the 32 bit version .... you will begin with difficulty startiing with 64 bit
[06:10] <Prdez> no problem
[06:10] <drowner> ill try moving it over with the gparted live cd
[06:10] <drowner> should be ok.
[06:10] <Prdez> fdisk will tell you all
[06:10] <drowner> all what?
[06:11] <scarter> Tom47: oui, m'aussi
[06:11] <OmniD> Can Beryl cause Xserver to not start up anymore?
[06:11] <OmniD> Mind you it doesn't start up with Beryl either
[06:11] <Tom47> scarter :D
[06:11] <Vw1`8t> Tom47, same error came up with 32 bit
[06:11] <Vw1`8t> :\
[06:11] <dukens> gys it about the: gnome-volume-control
[06:11] <Prdez> what is what extdended primary logical etc
[06:12] <excalibas> dr_willis, i need the openssh client or server?
[06:12] <pyro540> Hey, I am having trouble installing Nvidia drivers for my Geforce 4, the installation keeps telling me that I am running an x server, and that I need to close it before installing. How do I fix this, and what is an x server?
[06:12] <klobster> mobuto: using the hardware key hit turn the volume up and tell me if it works now?
[06:12] <mobutu> klobster: i made a window for you!
[06:12] <workbean> stupid me :-) there's an anacron file in /etc/cron.d :-)
[06:12] <workbean> thanks guys!
[06:12] <drowner> ahh ok, i know that sda1 is NTFS sda2 is extended (but appears to the right of sda3), sda3 is ext3, sda5 is fat32, sda6 is swap
[06:12] <drowner> that sounds reasonable, right?
[06:12] <Flying-Penguin> Meh, Grub doens't work with my USB keyboard.. witch makes booting to windows a pain
[06:12] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: ok but the suggestion still stands and you will get more people answering questions if based on 32 bit is suspect
[06:13] <Flying-Penguin> is there a boot loader I could install that will work with my usb keyboard?
[06:13] <drowner> Flying-Penguin: is USB enabled in your BIOS?
[06:13] <dr_willis> excalibas,  may as well install both.
[06:13] <dfwlinuxguy> flying-penguin... it is most likely your bios
[06:13] <grndslm_> am i the only one having problems with beagled-helper?!?!?
[06:13] <dukens> EADG did see my last message?
[06:13] <pyro540> Flying-Penguin: I would suggest using a USB to ps/2 adapter. It worked for me
[06:13] <aronis> anyone from brazil?
[06:13] <Flying-Penguin> Drowner, I can use my usb keyboard to enter and modify my bios during boot
[06:13] <drowner> prdez: thanks again.
[06:13] <OmniD> Can Beryl cause Xserver to not start up anymore? Mind you it does not start up with Beryl enabled at all, yet X refuses to start at boot, and I have no clue how to activate or do anything to it while in the terminal.
[06:13] <drowner> oh
[06:14] <Prdez> drowner: sure.
[06:14] <workbean> nice, now I can configure rdiff-backup
[06:15] <Tiradin> Would anyone happen to know if there are drivers for the following: Logitech MX518 Gaming Grade Optical Mouse
[06:15] <dfwlinuxguy> flying-penguin... there is no reason your usb keyboard should not work in Linux unless it is a bio issue
[06:15] <Tiradin> As well as a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1a?
[06:15] <rococo> Flying-Penguin: go into BIOS anyway. Make sure you have USB *Legacy* support, not just USB support
[06:15] <Tom47> aronis not me but why do you ask?
[06:15] <Flying-Penguin> my keyboard works in linux, just doens't seem to work in grub 0o
[06:15] <Flying-Penguin> rococo: Alright, will do
[06:15] <Vw1`8t> Tom47, I have both, 32 & 64 bit ubuntu iso CDs in front of me...they both freeze at same point "loading hardware drivers"
[06:15] <Tiradin> doesn't USB load up after grub/
[06:15] <Tiradin> ?*
[06:15] <dfwlinuxguy> flying-penguin... are you using a kvm?
[06:15] <dr_willis> Flying-Penguin,  my grub does not work with USB keyboard either.. but I recall it did work on one usb port.. (but cant get it to do it now)
[06:16] <pyro540> what is an x sersver, and can I disable it?
[06:16] <workbean> so anacron will run at boot time as well as at 7:30am, so cron.daily and cron.weekly will be executed even if you leave your computer on... coolness
[06:16] <brylie> !x | pyro540
[06:16] <ubotu> pyro540: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:16] <rococo> Tiradin: extended usb does, but I've used grub with USB keyboards before with no problems
[06:16] <dr_willis> Flying-Penguin,  USB-Legacy support in My bios - made the system (linux and windows both) refuse to boot right. :( so i got a little cheap ps2 keyboard  on a shelf i just use fr grub. :)
[06:16] <excalibas> dr_willis, it is installed, now how do i get ssh to run?
[06:16] <dr_willis> excalibas,  try 'ssh localhost' and see if it works
[06:16] <pyro540> ah, thanks
[06:16] <Tiradin> rococo: I see.... I've just noticed on my PC that USB devices usually don't start up until the OS starts loading.
[06:17] <dr_willis> I think the usb-grub issue is part due to the bios on the mb and some other quirks. :(
[06:17] <Tiradin> I.E. Mouse, etc.
[06:17] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: yes i understand that .... my suggestion is, and especially since you have both and are experiencing the same problem in both, is to seek help with a 32 bit install ... as things stand i suspect people believe you to have a partly installed 64 bit version and will probbaly hesitate to help
[06:17] <OmniD> I'm thinking of just formatting, messing with X has always been a pain when something screws up.
 blz?
[06:17] <rococo> Tiradin: well, the mouse isn't supported at all, usb or no, until things start loadng
[06:17] <dr_willis> OmniD,  thats why you backup your xorg.conf :)
[06:17] <OmniD> I doubt it was modified
[06:18] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: i cannot really helpyou directly other than to suggest more productive ways of asking for help sorry
[06:18] <OmniD> Stuff just stops working like this? Come on...
[06:18] <dukens>  gys it about the: gnome-volume-control can you help me please
[06:18] <dr_willis> OmniD,  no idea. i aint been paying attention to your problem.
[06:18] <excalibas> dr_willis, The authenticity of host 'localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>)' can't be established.
[06:18] <excalibas> RSA key fingerprint is 05:19:8c:0b:a2:64:2f:4a:17:d5:7b:ce:04:7d:57:a8.
[06:18] <excalibas> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? y
[06:18] <excalibas> Please type 'yes' or 'no': yes
[06:18] <excalibas> Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[06:18] <excalibas>  is this normal?
[06:18] <Tiradin> *nod*
[06:18] <OmniD> Well I'll dig it up
[06:18] <harry_> how do I tell nautilus to use an ftp server in ascii mode?
[06:18] <Tiradin> Would anyone be able to help me find appropriate drivers to use my keyboard/moues?
[06:18] <dr_willis> excalibas,  yes. and you may want tor ead a few ssh tutorials.
[06:18] <OmniD> "Can Beryl cause Xserver to not start up anymore? Mind you it does not start up with Beryl enabled at all, yet X refuses to start at boot, and I have no clue how to activate or do anything to it while in the terminal."
[06:18] <OmniD> There you go dr_willis
[06:18] <Tiradin> Keyboard is a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1A... mouse is Logitech MX518
[06:19] <Tiradin> I'm looking for hotkey functionality.
[06:19] <dr_willis> OmniD,  i dont mess with beryl - i dont think its ready for mainstream ussage.
[06:19] <Flying-Penguin> dr_willis: Yah I have PS/2 keyboards, but I don't want to have to use it each time I wana windows... my desk is cramped so my keyboard would have to be on the floor =/
[06:19] <excalibas> dr.willis, ok, thanks i will do that
[06:19] <infidel> can some one give a hand, i have a problem after logging in i get an xsession error and it keeps saying windows manager already running
[06:19] <dr_willis> Flying-Penguin,  thats were my mini ps2 keyboard is at. :) i use the arrow keys withmy toes.. to pick the os.
[06:19] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..that happens if you are connecting to a machine that may be on dhcp that changes IP's or if the machine has recently been re-installed..or could be a man-in-the-middle attak
[06:19] <OmniD> dr_willis ah that explains it, but making it to where I cannot boot up? That's quite ridiculous.
[06:20] <OmniD> That's the reason I DIDNT boot up with Beryl
[06:20] <dr_willis> OmniD,  no idea there. you dont even see the boot mnessages eh?
[06:20] <dfwlinuxguy> deleting ~/.ssh/known_hosts should help
[06:20] <pyro540> ok, Im getting the "sudo: /ect/int.d/?dim : Command not found" error
[06:20] <dukens> Hi
[06:20] <dfwlinuxguy> if you are sure that it's not a man-in-the-middle attack
[06:20] <dukens> Please I need your help
[06:20] <pyro540> and I need to kill x so that i can install this driver
[06:20] <OmniD> dr_willis: I do see them actually, it tells me that Cserver cannot start and throws me in without a graphical output
[06:20] <dfwlinuxguy> !ask
[06:20] <Tom47> dukens is there a reason you cannot get help in french?
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:20] <OmniD> Which is annoying because I am quite a newbie
[06:20] <pyro540> is there some way to boot up in shell?
[06:20] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy:  what is that ?
[06:21] <dukens> I got a probleme with my gnome control volume
[06:21] <buenas_werte> pyro540: go to single user mode?
[06:21] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - what is what?
[06:21] <pyro540> ?
[06:21] <buenas_werte> init level 1
[06:21] <dfwlinuxguy> !ask
[06:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:21] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: man in the middle attack?
[06:21] <pc_> hey dfwlinuxguy, would you mind helping me with another problem I am having.
[06:21] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ sure
[06:21] <pyro540> buenas_werte: not sure what that means
[06:21] <Vw1`8t> Tom47, good news! Booted from Windows with Ubuntu instalation CD...it worked
[06:22] <Tiradin> Keyboard is a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1A... mouse is Logitech MX518.... I'm trying to get drivers for functionality
[06:22] <Vw1`8t> i assume windows loaded drivers...
[06:22] <pc_> I am running two monitors, xinerama, I can't get them to both go to the same resoultion of 1280x1024.
[06:22] <buenas_werte> pyro540: init levels are the operational levels of *nix
[06:22] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I am running two monitors, xinerama, I can't get them to both go to the same resoultion of 1280x1024.
[06:22] <rococo> excalibas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_middle_attack (to save dfwlinuxguy some typing)
[06:22] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - not an easy thing, but it's when someone intercepts your communication with the server that you think you are trying to connect to and pretends to be that box instead
[06:22] <pyro540> ah
[06:22] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I can paste my xorg.conf now :)
[06:22] <pyro540> buenas_werte: so, how do I go to single user mode?
[06:23] <pyro540> verbose only?
[06:23] <rococo> pc_: make sure you use a pastebin
[06:23] <pyro540> in PHLAK you have to press F2 during startup
[06:23] <pc_> rococo, I know :)
[06:23] <grndslm_> strange thing, that for me, usb keyboards work with ubuntu desktop cd, but not for ubuntu alternate cd..
[06:23] <atlanta800> I'm moving my system to 64bit, and in doing so I want to completely re-install ubuntu. I use nm-applet for all my wireless keys, how can I back them up and get them on my new install?
[06:23] <rococo> pc_: oh, okay. all that log-out-log-in stuff has me paranoid about crazy scrolling, I guess
[06:23] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: wooo you think someone is atacking me?  i think this should be just bad configurations, what should i do?
[06:23] <elryno> What is the best way to find support about a ubuntu 7.04 networkmanager??
[06:23] <pc_> rococo, okay :)
[06:24] <rococo> excalibas: nobody is attacking you
[06:24] <buenas_werte> pyro540 umm try man init
[06:24] <Tiradin> Could anyone help me with drivers?
[06:24] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I am running two monitors, xinerama, I can't get them to both go to the same resoultion of 1280x1024.
[06:24] <pyro540> buenas_werte: ok
[06:24] <Vanax> how do i check what my computers ip is in terminal
[06:24] <pyro540> buenas_werte: "no manual entry for int"
[06:24] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ does this help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[06:24] <grndslm_> atlanta800:  save everything in your home directory, particularly your hidden files that begin with a . inside your home dir
[06:24] <buenas_werte> pyro540 umm try man init  <-- init
[06:24] <elryno> Vanax: ifconfig
[06:24] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - not likely
[06:24] <Vanax> thank u
[06:24] <pyro540> buenas_werte: ah
[06:24] <excalibas> rococo, thanks, that is nice to hear :)
[06:25] <rococo> excalibas: ssh just always asks you whether you want to continue when you connect to a new remote machine for the first time. it exchanges encryption keys with that machine for future reference, which makes said attacks virtually impossible instead of ridiculously hard
[06:25] <grndslm_> am i the only one having problems with beagled-helper?!?!?
[06:25] <atlanta800> grndslm_: yeah I got that, are they all saved in there?
[06:25] <dukens> ok tom I cannot find help in french rooms I ganna do my best are you ready to help me
[06:25] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, unfortunately no. See they have to be in Xinerama, cause two cards. There both up and running right now. It is just the resolution thing I can't get it to change.
[06:25] <grndslm_> atlanta800:  every user config file is in a . folder in home dir, yes
[06:25] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - it's more likely that the machine has changed IP's to an address that you've already connected to or that is has recently been upgraded
[06:25] <bytecolor> pc_, have you set the HorizSync and VerRefesh for the monitors?
[06:26] <pyro540> buenas_werte: that didn't help much
[06:26] <excalibas> so now winscp should work
[06:26] <grndslm_> if you copy the whole home dir, you'll be good...with nautilus, hit CTRL + H to bring up hidden folders
[06:26] <pc_> bytecolor, yep.
[06:26] <elryno> my network manager displays disconnected when I am using vmxnet module, even though my connection is OK.
[06:26] <buenas_werte> pyro540: to tell you of the runlevels? it didnt help?
[06:26] <grndslm_> elryno:  if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
[06:26] <grndslm_> ;-)
[06:26] <pyro540> buenas_werte: well, I dont know how to change it
[06:26] <elryno> network manager seems broke!?
[06:27] <grndslm_> but your connection is ok!?
[06:27] <rococo> excalibas: ssh is so secure that if anyone ever manages to actually break through it to get at you, you've got other problems as you have some powerful enemies ;-)
[06:27] <elryno> yep
[06:27] <inflex> okay, someone good with GFX 3D want to explain this to me... I reinstalled Ubuntu and thought I'd try run my TRON (armagetronad) and WOW, finally, 40fps at 1920x1200 with eerything turned on
[06:27] <grndslm_> then who cares?
[06:27] <Tiradin> Anyone? help? no? :P
[06:27] <buenas_werte> pyro540: it says right there on that man page of init
[06:27] <inflex> yet I run GLX gears and it -sucks-
[06:27] <pyro540> >.<
[06:27] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ under section screen you might try changing Modes  to reflect the resolution you would like
[06:27] <crdlb> inflex, glxgears is not a benchmark
[06:27] <inflex> and before I reinstalled, I could get good GLX gears speeds but armagetronad would barely run at 17fps with all the lowest quality settings
[06:27] <adelie> What are desktop managers? This is not the window manager, right?
[06:27] <dukens> I got a probleme with my gnome control volume every time I clik on it i got this message: the greffon of the volume gstreamer is not installed
[06:27] <inflex> crdlb: I know - but it's at least /partially/ representitive
[06:28] <crdlb> nope
[06:28] <pyro540> buenas_werte: wait, no runlevels
[06:28] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  we don't help people that ask for help instead of asking the real friggin' question!
[06:28] <HKJGN> not at all
[06:28] <dukens> its there the message
[06:28] <crdlb> its value means nothing for actual 3d performance
[06:28] <pyro540> maby if I was using terminal instead of konsole
[06:28] <buenas_werte> pyro540: its there  telinit 1
[06:28] <GeorgeAScott> is there a ubuntu azureus howto.?
[06:28] <elryno> since network manager thinks it is not connected, programs that use its status come up not connected (think GAIM - Pidgin)
[06:28] <HKJGN> inflex:it merely figures out if you have 3d acceleration capability, not how good it is
[06:28] <Ishmael> what is the graphical way to configure X?
[06:28] <inflex> crdlb: well, it's still strange that when one goes well the other doesn't
[06:28] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo...thanks
[06:29] <Tiradin> grndslm_: If you'd scroll up, i've asked my question many times :)
[06:29] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  make me do all the work, why don't ya!
[06:29] <inflex> my question is - "why" then did my previous Ubuntu install have very poor performance in ArmagetronAD ... but now it's GREAT
[06:29] <adelie> how do I get different wallpapers on each workspace?
[06:29] <Tiradin> :P
[06:29] <inflex> both were Feisty 7.04
[06:29] <HKJGN> Ishmael: xconfig in the terminal
[06:29] <crdlb> inflex, what video card?
[06:29] <inflex> (and conversely, previously glx gears ran great (not that I cared) and now it's showing very poor response.
[06:29] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: ?
[06:29] <Tiradin> grndslm_: I'm trying to find drivers for my keyboard and mouse, and I have had no luck.. i'm just wondering if there's a way I can maybe get around it... I want the hotkeys on my keyboard to work, and the extra buttons on my mouse to function.
[06:29] <Ishmael> thanks HKJGN
[06:29] <inflex> crdlb: ATi Radeon 9250 (256MB)
[06:30] <Vanax> lol ati
[06:30] <Ishmael> wait HKJGN command not found
[06:30] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo...the reference to man-in-the-middle..sorry..I'm slow
[06:30] <crdlb> inflex, using the free driver in both cases?
[06:30] <pyro540> buenas_werte: Ooh, I get it. I was using man init not man telinit
[06:30] <HKJGN> Ishmael xorgconf then
[06:30] <Vanax> i have an ati too, i need to throw mine out the window.
[06:30] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: ah. no problem
[06:30] <crdlb> !xconfig | Ishmael
[06:30] <ubotu> Ishmael: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[06:30] <HKJGN> Ishmael: apperntly i forgot
[06:30] <Tiradin> grndslm_: My keyboard is a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A. The mouse is a Logitech MX518
[06:30] <HKJGN> apparently*
[06:30] <pyro540> buenas_werte: so now I just type "unlevel 1"
[06:30] <inflex> crdlb: afaik, yes :\  any way of determining which is installed?
[06:31] <OmniD> So just to get this straight Beryl is in beta but compiz is very much in normal stage of dev now?
[06:31] <buenas_werte> pyro540: its there         telinit 1
[06:31] <pyro540> buenas_werte: "runlevel 1"
[06:31] <adelie> does ubuntu support having different wallpapers on each workspace?
[06:31] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  my next question...answered already!
[06:31] <pyro540> buenas_werte: I know
[06:31] <Tiradin> :P
[06:31] <crdlb> inflex, the version of fglrx included in feisty doesn't support the 9250 anymore
[06:31] <HKJGN> manual driver install :D
[06:31] <HKJGN> lol
[06:31] <crdlb> so unless you did quite a bit manually, there's no way you're using it
[06:31] <rococo> OmniD: yes. Beryl was an offshoot from Compiz so it's still in development stages. However, Beryl and Compiz are soon going to recombine, so you'll be getting best of both worlds
[06:31] <pyro540> hw do I change to it though?
[06:31] <buenas_werte> pyro540:   telinit 1
[06:31] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  this might help with the extra mouse buttons:  http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/ubuntuhowto.html#intellimouse
[06:32] <buenas_werte> being root off coruse
[06:32] <dr_willis> adelie,  thats more a feature of the desktop/windowmanager :)
[06:32] <Ishmael> im having trouble with dpkg-reconfigure
[06:32] <grndslm_> Tiradin: might not work...i certainly dunno about the laptop, tho
[06:32] <Ishmael> there was another command to configure X
[06:32] <inflex> crdlb: well, it's all very curious then isn't it
[06:32] <Ishmael> but i cant remember
[06:32] <HKJGN> OmniD: Beryl is the more "pretty" version
[06:32] <dr_willis> adelie,  some of which do support that.
[06:32] <elryno> grndslm_: since network manager thinks it is not connected, programs that use its status come up not connected (think GAIM - Pidgin) and require me to manual set them to connected.
[06:32] <Ishmael> it was gui
[06:32] <OmniD> rococo: How so? As in Beryl won't completely destroy my PC
[06:32] <excalibas> anyone know where to find good tutorials for ssh?
[06:32] <Tiradin> grndslm_: Laptop?
[06:32] <HKJGN> OmniD: also severely unstable XD
[06:32] <inflex> crdlb: I did /try/ to install flgx using the ATi site's driver package.. but it didn't even get started since there was a problem in one of the scripts
[06:33] <gilang> can anyone wake up from suspend?
[06:33] <grndslm_> i can :-P
[06:33] <HKJGN> inflex: betcha it had to do with the X version
[06:33] <OmniD> Oh so even when they merge it will be still in alpha right or they will take the stable parts of the code in Beryl and add it in Compiz?
[06:33] <adelie> beryl has a "Desktop Manager supports viewports" this is false in ubuntu?
[06:33] <inflex>         Identifier      "Generic Video Card"
[06:33] <inflex>         Driver          "ati"
[06:33] <lockd> is there a reason checkinstall balks when make install does "useful" things like compilation (why Mozilla's make install requires this, I do not know)
[06:33] <PurpZeY> crdlb: Side-note...Thanks for the help with the DCC problem earlier.
[06:33] <Tiradin> hmm... that was odd
[06:33] <gilang> grndslm_: how come?
[06:33] <Tiradin> excuse my sudden departure o.O
[06:33] <crdlb> PurpZeY, yw
[06:33] <HKJGN> OmniD: not sure, thats just what i know about beryl
[06:33] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd..using sudo?
[06:33] <inflex> HKJGN: well, I'm not so sure - it barfed because of a script variable (in bash) expansion issue (namely the path)
[06:33] <crdlb> inflex, yes that's the free driver
[06:33] <rococo> OmniD: Well, Compiz runs a lot more smoothly than Beryl, but Beryl has a lot of great features, plus it's more customizable than Compiz (plus it works with more than just Gnome-desktop), so the end result of the merge should be a sleeker version of Beryl's improvements on Compiz
[06:33] <grndslm_> gilang:  i researched before i purchased
[06:34] <HKJGN> adelie: yes, Ubuntu doesnt support viewports
[06:34] <crdlb> inflex, just be happy it decided to work so well :P
[06:34] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: using sudo, or --fstrans, really any options
[06:34] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: I could paste the entirety
[06:34] <HKJGN> inflex: could always use Envy
[06:34] <gilang> so, what kind of suspend software do u use?
[06:34] <inflex> crdlb: just thinking it'll come back later and bite me when I have to do another install :D
[06:34] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd pastebin
[06:34] <inflex> crdlb: then I'll be cussing once more
[06:34] <HKJGN> inflex: installs ATI or Nividia drivers for you
[06:34] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: but then you also need every single perl script
[06:34] <crdlb> !envy
[06:34] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:34] <inflex> Anyhow, am very glad that I'm getting 40fps at 1920x1200
[06:35] <inflex> (120fps at 800x600)
[06:35] <HKJGN> dont let it edit xorg.conf
[06:35] <caravel> bye folks
[06:35] <adelie> viewports can only be setup through xorg.conf? multiple now, but... limited use, like beryl is not aware
[06:35] <grndslm_> gilang:  ehh, i don't know jack about it...i just installed ubuntu and suspend worked...i had to mess with networking to get it to resume when resuming from suspend...
[06:35] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: grr, error couldn't write 145 on pastebin
[06:35] <grndslm_> but it just worked, mostly
[06:35] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: i'll have to try around
[06:35] <OmniD> WELP, just as an update I think I'll just reinstall ubuntu completely because of my screwup with Beryl. I didn't have a very good GPU to begin with (Geforce 2 MX) and I have a big feeling in my gut that it was a big part of the problem either that or Beryl really did somehow screw up Xserver permanently
[06:35] <angel> im new in ubuntu or linux environment could you guys suggest any web developing tool like dreamweaver macromedia that i could use in ubuntu
[06:35] <crdlb> adelie, no
[06:36] <adelie> Anyone know if this might be supported in 7.10?
[06:36] <gilang> what laptop do u use?
[06:36] <crdlb> adelie, you didn't read the full option
[06:36] <elryno> has anybody had any trouble with network manager and ubuntu as a vmware host?
[06:36] <crdlb> adelie, "desktop manager supports viewports with different wallpapers"
[06:36] <inflex> well, I'm keeping this copy of xorg.conf :)
[06:36] <Ishmael> my X setting is having problems with xkb
[06:36] <grndslm_> gilang:  portableone sx (rebranded asus z35f )
[06:36] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: http://paste.uni.cc/15967
[06:36] <rococo> OmniD: running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from command-line didn't help at all?
[06:36] <Ishmael> does anyone know how to fix this
[06:36] <elryno> strike that - vmware guest!
[06:36] <OmniD> angel, I know there is a really good web dev tool I forgot it's name though
[06:36] <crdlb> adelie, which simply means you can't have different wallpapers on each face of the cube
[06:36] <dfwlinuxguy> angel...what exactly do you need from dreamweaver?...does NVU work for you?
[06:36] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...looking
[06:37] <angel> id seen quanta but is the any thing else
[06:37] <OmniD> rococo: What would that do?
[06:37] <HKJGN> crdlb: i used Envy, and i didnt have any trouble :P
[06:37] <crdlb> !worksforme | HKJGN
[06:37] <ubotu> HKJGN: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:37] <crdlb> :P
[06:37] <OmniD> rococo: To be honest I'm just lazy and it was a relatively fresh install to check out Beryl
[06:37] <HKJGN> :P
[06:37] <angel> i've seen NVU but i dont like it
[06:37] <HKJGN> just saying, its an all else fails
[06:37] <rococo> OmniD: it basically runs you through the process of reconfiguring xorg by asking you a lot of questions (and 99 times out of 100 you can just hit enter and default through the ones you to which you don't know the answer)
[06:37] <OmniD> angel: Aww I like NVU even compared to DreamWeaver
[06:37] <angel> i've seen quanta and NVU  is there anything else
[06:37] <adelie> crdlb :( It would be very useful.
[06:37] <HKJGN> Envy /will/ do it, but it tends to ruin the xorg file if you let it modify it
[06:38] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...hummm...looks like you might have hit your inode limit
[06:38] <HKJGN> then boom explosions whooosh!
[06:38] <HKJGN> >.>
[06:38] <angel> OmniD i just see its interface but didnt try it to edit php or index on it
[06:38] <dfwlinuxguy> angel...i've used dreamweaver with crossover successfully..http://www.codeweavers.com
[06:39] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: any way to fix said problem? note this same error happens whether sudo or not, --fstrans or not
[06:39] <HKJGN> crdlb: and that statement refers more to versions than software
[06:39] <HKJGN> :P
[06:39] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: ouch, is there a way to up the limit?
[06:39] <adelie> on a different note, in beryl, is it possible to bring back the "right click move to workspace X" functionality? draging windows to across screen is much less convieniuent
[06:39] <dfwlinuxguy> angel...there is no direct equivilant
[06:39] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: rebuild kernel or anything?
[06:39] <OmniD> angel: The interface is a bit simplified by comparison but I like it, things seem in the right place and all that
[06:39] <pyro540> well, it sorta worked
[06:39] <PurpZeY> adelie: Seems like a lot of this stuff might be better addressed in #beryl...If I am not stepping in the way of some other issue.
[06:39] <angel> okay how can i install it
[06:39] <adelie> multi monitor setup = long distance to "edge og screen"
[06:40] <OmniD> angel: Should be under Synaptic
[06:40] <HKJGN> adelie: PurpZeY is right, #beryl would be a better place, they helped me when i broke beryl :D
[06:40] <adelie> PurpZeY k.. no prob. thanks
[06:40] <Shaddox> Hello everyone.
[06:40] <rococo> adelie: well, Beryl uses viewports instead of workspaces. There might be a way to do it, but it would work pretty different
[06:40] <Shaddox> How would I go about installing the GD image extensions on my Ubuntu Server to incorporate with PHP? I need it for my forum software.
[06:40] <PurpZeY> !hi | Shaddox
[06:40] <ubotu> Shaddox: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:41] <rococo> adelie: the #beryl folks would know for sure, though
[06:41] <angel> where is that OmniD?im still not use to ubuntu
[06:41] <Shaddox> You don't have to say hi, ive been here enough XD
[06:41] <OmniD> Thanks rococo, I think I'll give it a shot, what's the command again?
[06:41] <PurpZeY> Shaddox: It's a bot..;P
[06:41] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: /dev/sdb3            75979392<PHONE_NUMBER>2128    1% / that's inodes
[06:41] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...I'm not sure that you can do anything other than back up your data and increase the inode count when creating the filesystem
[06:41] <HKJGN> rococo: unfortunately, Beryl supports veiwports, but only certain linux versions do
[06:41] <pyro540> hey, I need help with installing my Nvidia driver. The dang thing dosen't wanna be installed with a graphical UI, and it dosen't like runlevel 1
[06:41] <rococo> OmniD: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - if it goes wrong the first time, you can pretty much try again as much as you want. but once you find a good one, back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:42] <Shaddox> i know, i was talking to you. ^^
[06:42] <rococo> HKJGN: including Debian/Ubuntu, thankfully!
[06:42] <PurpZeY> Shaddox: I know I know...Bad joke on my part...you say You don't have to say hello...I say, it's a bot...of course you've been here...so you know that...but it really wasn't funny.
[06:42] <gilang> is suspend2 the best solution for suspend?
[06:42] <Tiradin> ahaha... wine is funny when it works.
[06:42] <Tiradin> brb.
[06:42] <OmniD> Thanks again rococo
[06:42] <arcade> Hmf.  HP Omnibook 6100 and Feisty doesn't work well with the 2.6.20 kernel.  Had to use edgy's kernel to get the machine to boot.
[06:43] <HKJGN> rococo: -is confused-
[06:43] <rococo> OmniD: sure
[06:43] <dukens> who can help me please
[06:43] <dukens> ??
[06:43] <angel> where can i get NVU and wine?
[06:43] <Shaddox> yeah, DX
[06:43] <Shaddox> XD*
[06:43] <arcade> Seems to be pretty well documented at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89892 .. but nobody seems to be working on it?
[06:43] <rococo> HKJGN: Howso? You can totally get viewports working
[06:43] <Shaddox> Anyone know how to set up GD extensions on UbuntuServer?
[06:43] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...ok I'm just googling at this point b/c I've never hit that limit b4
[06:44] <elryno> is there anywhere else to get support? I have tried here and the forums
[06:44] <HKJGN> rococo: i wasnt able to :( they told me that Ubuntu doesnt work with multiple desktop backgrounds and the like
[06:44] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: as I said, df -i says i'm only at 1%
[06:44] <elryno> no luck
[06:44] <dukens>  I got a probleme with my gnome control volume every time I clik on it i got this message: the greffon of the volume gstreamer is not installed
[06:44] <pyro540> mm, that didn't help. it gave me a list of video drivers, and I dont know which on is mine
[06:44] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: it could be a problem with checkinstall's limit, if it makes a virtual file system or something
[06:44] <dr_willis> elryno,  support with what exactly?
[06:45] <elryno> I am trying to sort out a problem with network manager and vmxnet module
[06:45] <elryno> nm shows not connected when the connection IS good
[06:45] <angel> any place where i can get a copy of NVU and Winde
[06:45] <angel> wine
[06:45] <rococo> HKJGN: when I played with that it was in Debian, but there shouldn't be too huge a difference...
[06:45] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: this ssh seem hard to use, there isnt just a simple way to move a file from my xubuntu box to my xp box?
[06:45] <pyro540> angel: I just got it, Ill look up the URL
[06:45] <angel> okay thx
[06:45] <dr_willis> elryno,  sorry i cant help ya - I tend to run andhide from wireless issues. :) (i ran wires)
[06:45] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd..to me it looks like a filesystem problem fsck check?
[06:45] <DARKGuy> angel: wine: http://www.winehq.org ... nvu from its site, type nvu linux in google :P
[06:46] <HKJGN> rococo: if you want to point me in the right direction, go right ahead :P but i was told here that its not possible
[06:46] <elryno> not wireless - its wired
[06:46] <Tiradin> Wow...
[06:46] <Tiradin> i'm actually quite surprised that wine is running mIRC this well.
[06:46] <angel> thx a lot
[06:46] <DARKGuy> Tiradin: it runs NoName script too, surprisingly
[06:46] <HKJGN> lol Tiradin
[06:46] <pyro540> angel: the url is http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:46] <dr_willis> Tiradin,  thats.. sick. :)
[06:47] <HKJGN> XD
[06:47] <elryno> since network manager thinks it is not connected, programs that use its status come up not connected (think GAIM - Pidgin) and require me to manual set them to connected.
[06:47] <Tiradin> :P
[06:47] <pyro540> angel: for wine that is
[06:47] <angel> thx pyro540
[06:47] <elryno> dr_willis: the connection is wired
[06:47] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas...simple...hmmmm, samba might seem harder to you. scp from your windows box to the Linux box seems more simple...exactly what is the problem?
[06:47] <dr_willis> elryno,  ok. so if you are wired. why are you using network manager?
[06:48] <rococo> HKJGN: ohh. It isn't possible in GNOME, but it's possible with other desktop managers
[06:48] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: it gets fsck'd every boot, or so I thought
[06:48] <rococo> HKJGN: did you try it using gnome?
[06:48] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...no not every boot
[06:48] <HKJGN> rococo: XD yup, im in Gnome
[06:48] <Tiradin> Woah.
[06:48] <elryno> it shows all network connections and allows configuration
[06:48] <Tiradin> that's really weird... but whatever.
[06:48] <pyro540> could someone help me with Nvidia drivers?
[06:48] <Tiradin> In ANY case.
[06:48] <elryno> some programs get its status to know if net is up/down
[06:48] <DARKGuy> pyro540: what's the prob?
[06:48] <HKJGN> rococo: its ok tho, i like my Bg the way it is
[06:48] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: oh.. well is there a way to have it, because xfs_check won't let me run mounted
[06:48] <Tiradin> [-] pyro540[-]  Nvidia has support for linux, did you try their website?
[06:48] <PurpZeY> pyro540: Describe the issue please?
[06:49] <HKJGN> rococo: any changes would be purely cosmetic, and i dont care that much
[06:49] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas...there is ftp....apache...samba....scp... a lot of different ways...not sure which would be the most simple
[06:49] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: i have done ssh localhost on linux, but i cant ger winspc to login
[06:49] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: er, at least for the next boot, I don't want to have it check every time
[06:49] <Tiradin> haha.... mIRC makes me laugh :P
[06:49] <HKJGN> lol
[06:49] <pyro540> DARKGuy: Well, it wants me to shut down x, but it dosnt like single user mode either
[06:49] <rococo> HKJGN: yeah, multiple backgrounds is overrated. But that's the issue - Linux is Linux, so any linux should support viewports. It's the desktop that runs on top of it you have to worry about
[06:49] <HKJGN> get a room :P
[06:49] <elryno> dr_willis: does yours show connected or not?
[06:49] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas...apt-get install openssh-server
[06:49] <HKJGN> rococo: well, thats true of all software compatability
[06:49] <PurpZeY> Is there a way to setup a local file server to a particular dir, that XP and Ubuntu can access?
[06:49] <pyro540> I try to install it with "sudo -i, sh filename.run"
[06:49] <Tiradin> Can someone rhyme off a few IRC clients for linux that would have a similar GUI to mIRC?
[06:49] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: did that
[06:50] <HKJGN> im lazy, i just use Xchat
[06:50] <HKJGN> XD
[06:50] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: ouch, didn't see this: fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library
[06:50] <DARKGuy> pyro540: huh, it should be installed with "chmod +x NVIDIA-whatever.run" then "sudo ./NVIDIA-whatever.run"
[06:50] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas../etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:50] <Tiradin> lol...
[06:50] <pyro540> Triadin: I use Giam
[06:50] <HKJGN> yeah, pidgin
[06:50] <beford> Tiradin, Whats wrong with xchat?
[06:50] <rococo> !SMB | PurpZeY
[06:50] <ubotu> PurpZeY: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:50] <Tiradin> [-] pyro540[-]  That's what i've been using.... personally I find it annoying.
[06:50] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd ...that might be your problem
[06:50] <HKJGN> xchat - ftw
[06:50] <pyro540> DARKGuy: huh, I just did what their website told me to do
[06:50] <Tiradin> [-] beford[-]  nothing, just seeing if there's somethign closer to what i'm used to.
[06:50] <Tru7h> Okay, I was using the partitioner thing earlier to try and get an ext3 and linux-swap partitions to install ubuntu on, and iI was going to boot windows and work on Ubuntu in the morning, but when I try and boot from my main hard drive it says "0 active partitions. Press F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." What do I do to make my main partition work again?
[06:50] <PurpZeY> rococo: gracias.
[06:50] <rococo> PurpZeY: sure
[06:51] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: unfortunately the one or two pages that mention fixes are in russian
[06:51] <dom> does anyone know how to setup the SVN apache module?
[06:51] <Tiradin> brb, shutting down wine.
[06:51] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: ftp seems simple, downloading files from the net from ftp is very easy, i dont know why it is so har to do it from the same room...
[06:51] <pyro540> Tridan or you could use wine and actually use mIRC
[06:51] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...it seems to be a filesystem error
[06:51] <DARKGuy> pyro540: Huh, I haven't checked their directions in so long... in Ubuntu you install the drivers that way anyways
[06:51] <DARKGuy> pyro540: and any .run/.bin file too
[06:51] <mobutu> what do i run after updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:51] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..well...it would mean setting up an ftp server on your linux box....I use vsftp
[06:52] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: well, is there a way to repair it besides the old way of backup and copy?
[06:52] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..setting up the server is a little more complicated than just using ftp to download the files
[06:52] <elryno> ...and so I pose my question again ... is there anywhere else to get support? I have tried here and the forums
[06:53] <grndslm_> mobutu: grub-install?
[06:53] <Tru7h> Okay, I was using the partitioner thing earlier to try and get an ext3 and linux-swap partitions to install ubuntu on, and I was going to boot windows and work on Ubuntu in the morning, but when I try and boot without the LiveCD in it says "0 active partitions. Press F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." What do I do to make my main partition work again?
[06:53] <grndslm_> dunno for sure, tho
[06:53] <pyro540> DARKGuy: It does the same thing either way
[06:53] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: yes, i am sure it it... i will try this ssh first ;)
[06:53] <dr_willis> excalibas,  you have reminded me of why i dont want to mess with vista. :)
[06:53] <PurpZeY> elryno: Google, or hope that someone pops in that can address your issue
[06:53] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd....have to plead ignorance on xfs..but it seems that is the case w/ ext3...changing the inodes available doesn't seem to me something you can do from /proc
[06:53] <n2diy> elryno: I just logged in, what is the question?
[06:53] <DARKGuy> pyro540: any error messages? what does it say or do?
[06:53] <pyro540> DARKGuy: one sec
[06:53] <mkquist> anyone aware of problems withe the nvidia driver?  Installed ubuntu like a month ago and beryl worked great easily, now whenever is goto install nvidia driver i get stuck at 800x600?
[06:53] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd....that sucks I know
[06:53] <elryno> I am trying to sort out a problem with network manager and vmxnet module
[06:54] <elryno> nm shows not connected when the connection IS good
[06:54] <DARKGuy> mkquist: tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your res?
[06:54] <pyro540> DARKGuy: "You appear to be running an x server. Please exit x before installing"
[06:54] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: i have doubts it has to do with inode
[06:54] <Tiradin> Hmm
[06:54] <elryno> this is a WIRED connection
[06:54] <excalibas> dr_willis, it is not vista, it is xp, and i juse it because i cant get the software i need no work on linux  yet
[06:54] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: i trust df to at least give within 50% error
[06:54] <n2diy> elryno: not familiar with vmxnet, sorry
[06:54] <Tiradin> only problem I have with Xchat is the format, but that's easily fixed.
[06:54] <Tiradin> sweet
[06:54] <mkquist> DARKGuy - yep, didnt do anything, just reinstalled , again! (3rd time, faster than fixing)
[06:54] <elryno> it is vmware's network module
[06:55] <elryno> from vmware tools
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: duh, you gotta do that through the terminals outside X (control+alt+f1)... switch to one, login then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", then run the nvidia installer again the same way
[06:55] <dr_willis> excalibas,  ok - earlier i though you said you were on vista.   Hmm ssh still aint working with winscp eh?
[06:55] <rococo> Tiradin: any luck with the WoW in wine thing? That was you, right?
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd ...everything looks ok until #
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> /bin/pwd: couldn't find directory entry in `../../../../../../../..' with matching i-node
[06:55] <pyro540> DARKGuy: ok
[06:55] <Tru7h> I was using the Gnome Partitioner earlier to try and get an ext3 and linux-swap partitions to install ubuntu on, and I was going to boot windows and work on installing Ubuntu in the morning, but when I try and boot without the LiveCD in it says "0 active partitions. Press F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." What do I do to make my WIndows partition work again?
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: be sure to get gdm started again
[06:55] <ivan> quick question.. ubuntu is based on debian correct? so why would one use ubuntu vs deb?
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[06:55] <pyro540> gdm?
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...that seems filesystem related to me
[06:55] <pyro540> ok
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> ????
[06:55] <mkquist> Tru7h - u can do that w/gnome partitioner
[06:55] <rococo> elryno: I haven't done anything vmware-related, you might have better luck asking at less ubuntu-specific places. http://www.linuxquestions.org is pretty nice
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: the login manager, that pretty thing you see that asks your user and password :P
[06:55] <pyro540> gotta write this down
[06:56] <PurpZeY> ivan: B/C Ubuntu "just works"
[06:56] <dr_willis> ivan,  lots and lots of 'polish' :)
[06:56] <ivan> oh hehe
[06:56] <DARKGuy> mkquist: huh, tried adding the resolutions manually editing the xorg.conf file?
[06:56] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, but what do I do to fix it?
[06:56] <mkquist> Tru7h - just boot to live cd, open the partitioner and manage flags
[06:56] <ivan> hey dr_willis know if it supports HP DV6000t laptop?
[06:56] <elryno> ok, thanks
[06:56] <HKJGN> mooo
[06:56] <mkquist> Tru7h - thats how.. =)
[06:56] <elryno> I'm off to look for support elsewhere...
[06:56] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, I'll try that. Thanks
[06:56] <dr_willis> ivan,  i know theres a ubuntu laptop forum :)
[06:57] <dfwlinuxguy> what's wrong elryno?
[06:57] <ivan> can you point me to it please :)?
[06:57] <dr_willis> ivan,  i also know that ubuntu has worked better on my laptops then any other disrto ive tried.
[06:57] <ivan> ahh nice
[06:57] <ivan> which do you own??
[06:57] <dr_willis> google  for ubuntu laptop
[06:57] <dr_willis> :)
[06:57] <mkquist> DARGuy - the resolutions shows up and is checked when i run the configure, but it just wont let me pick it? and beryl runs lousy too, ran great before.
[06:57] <mrynit> dr_willis, what laptop you got?
[06:57] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: I researched it a bit, and yes it's just balking because the disk is mounted
[06:57] <Tru7h> OOohhhhhh S#!%!!!
[06:57] <dr_willis> compaq 2100
[06:57] <mrynit> is that a good one?
[06:57] <mrynit> specs wise
[06:57] <PurpZeY> ivan: From a quick view of the forum, it seems like it should...but you should do a bit more research.
[06:57] <ivan> oh heh
[06:57] <mkquist> Darkguy - sry mistyped
[06:58] <dr_willis> got a new $350 laptop the other day also. not  tried linux on it yet.
[06:58] <Tru7h> The partitioner shows nothing but 80 GBs or unaccolated space
[06:58] <ivan> PurpZeY thanks
[06:58] <dr_willis> mrynit,  its a year+ old $400 laptop :)
[06:58] <mkquist> Tru7h, look up in right corner make sure ur looking at right disk
[06:58] <mrynit> hmm i need a lapy
[06:58] <DARKGuy> mkquist: try the reconfigure command again, and only choose the highest resolution you want. You might also want to check the xorg.conf file in the Device section to see if the Driver is "nvidia" not "nv" or "vesa"
[06:58] <Tru7h> Yeah
[06:58] <Tru7h> I am
[06:58] <Tru7h> Damn
[06:58] <ivan> dr_willis nice.. alot of cmdl work?
[06:58] <mrynit> term?
[06:58] <dr_willis> ivan,  not a lot of anything really :)
[06:59] <mrynit> *nix terminal win command line ?
[06:59] <dr_willis> Lots of Frozenbubble mainly
[06:59] <samsm> What determines the permissions of a new /home/user directory?
[06:59] <samsm> Essentially I want to do useradd -m whoever and have /home/whoever be 700.
[06:59] <mkquist> Tru7h - so u have no partitions set?
[06:59] <nsap> i used the alternate txt installer like i was suggested and ubuntu says it has installed however when i go to load ubuntu the loading bar comes up and it freezes about 1/4 of the way through
[06:59] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd....sorry.."baulking because the disk is mounted?"
[06:59] <dr_willis> nsap,  i think you can hit esc, or f2 to see theconsole messaghes
[07:00] <piedoggie> looking for a place to get lomount.  package searches don't yield anythong for dapper
[07:00] <nsap> hmm ok lemme try that
[07:00] <Tiradin> hum.
[07:00] <mkquist> DARKGuy: u know it works fine until i install the nvidia drivers...
[07:00] <firefly2442> How do I check to see if proftpd is running under xinetd?
[07:00] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: as in, the disk is mounted so it refuses to work
[07:00] <DARKGuy> mkquist: do the drivers say anything weird? or just plain install without errors?
[07:01] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, i dont understand /etc/init.d/ssh start should i go to /etc/init.d/    and write ssh start?
[07:01] <mkquist> DARKGuy: no Beryl but.. it works, nope just plain install no probs, what strange is this was all working fine and easy before
[07:01] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...you are trying to compile this on an external hd?
[07:01] <DARKGuy> mkquist: what version did you had before, and what's your card?
[07:02] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..open terminal...sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:02] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: no
[07:02] <mkquist> DARKGuy: getting tired of reinstalling it all, i mean its quick but id like to just get it running again.. =(
[07:02] <mkquist> DARKGuy: fawn, 6800gt
[07:02] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: excalibas if it's the ssh erver you're talking about, then you want it to say sshd instead of ssh
[07:02] <DARKGuy> mkquist: try installing an older nvidia driver to see if that helps
[07:03] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: my entire system is just one root fs
[07:03] <mkquist> DARKGuy: like d/l from nvidia site?
[07:03] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: well, i have /boot separate
[07:03] <DARKGuy> mkquist: and... are you using the nvidia official driver or just the ubuntu ones through the restricted manager o.O?
[07:03] <Tom47> dukens try this url https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1834
[07:03] <DARKGuy> mkquist: yeah, those are the ones that work
[07:03] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy, excalibas actually... I'm wrong. IGNORE ME
[07:03] <mkquist> DARKGuy: just checked the box, worked before
[07:03] <mkquist> DARKGuy: in restricted driver
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo seems that it was sshd in the past
[07:04] <nsap> pressng f2 or esc did not work
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo only ssh in feisty
[07:04] <DARKGuy> mkquist: try removing that (I dunno how, never used it) and install the nvidia official driver
[07:04] <pyro541> DARKGuy: didnt do a thing different
[07:04] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, fail
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> guess lockd gave up
[07:04] <pyro541> DARKGuy: I got the same error
[07:04] <DARKGuy> pyro541: but you should have 3D acceleration now
[07:04] <rococo> excalibas: did you do it as sudo?
[07:04] <DARKGuy> pyro541: huh
[07:04] <excalibas> yes
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..need more than fail
[07:04] <DARKGuy> pyro541: the nvidia installer made a kernel module and all?
[07:04] <mkquist> nsap - u can edit the start up menu and get rid of quiet splash (i think thats what it says) everything after ro in the line
[07:05] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.you can't use scp unless ssh server is up
[07:05] <mkquist> nsap - and see the start up messages
[07:05] <pyro541> DARKGuy: yah
[07:05] <sdf> from synamptic i install ruby book but i can t find it in application and system where can i found it or from terminal what can i write to find it?
[07:05] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: that makes me feel better. plus I think it's still sshd in Debian, which I use the other half the time
[07:05] <excalibas> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail]
[07:05] <nsap> ok
[07:05] <Tiradin> Anyone know how to further change the colour scheme in Xchat?
[07:05] <n2diy> sdf: locate ruby
[07:05] <DARKGuy> pyro541: try pastebin-ing your /var/log/Xorg.log file so I can see what's wrong?
[07:05] <pyro541> DARKGuy: I guess I could try running the game now...
[07:05] <mkquist> nsap - or you can run live cd and check the logs to see whats going on
[07:05] <DARKGuy> pyro541: without X how would you? o.O
[07:05] <dr_willis> sdf,  i thought ruby was a compiler/command just like perl and python. no icon.  - 'ruby' from the teminal dont work?
[07:05] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo yeah, try going from freebsd to all the different linux'es...hard to keep up
[07:06] <dr_willis> !find ruby
[07:06] <ubotu> Found: libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg, libsvn-ruby, libsvn-ruby1.8, ruby (and 301 others)
[07:06] <pyro541> no, I still have x
[07:06] <rococo> I can imagine
[07:06] <DARKGuy> pyro541: oh
[07:06] <megatron> sup
[07:06] <pyro541> DARKGuy: heh, sorry for the confusion
[07:06] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail]
[07:06] <Toma-> How do you change the splash theme in gnome?
[07:06] <megatron> sup people
[07:06] <DARKGuy> pyro541: you can give it a try, or run "glxinfo | grep 'render' "... if that shows up as "Direct rendering: Yes" then you got it right :3
[07:06] <sdf> dr_willis  has ruby ide like python?
[07:06] <dr_willis> sdf,  proberly.
[07:06] <dr_willis> sdf,  but ive never used it
[07:06] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..ok..is there more in /var/log/syslog?
[07:07] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..ok..that is why you can't scp
[07:07] <sdf> dr_willies i downloaded mondrian-v1.0beta8 but i can t install it
[07:07] <dr_willis> sdf,  never heard of it..  check their install docs?  whats the full file name?
[07:07] <Tiradin> Who was it that said they use Xchat?
[07:07] <DARKGuy> ubotu uses Xchat ;)
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uses xchat ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, that is the only line when i try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:08] <Toma-> Tiradin: 90% of the people here, id say
[07:08] <Tru7h> How the h3--
[07:08] <Tru7h> My external drive is wiped!!
[07:08] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..you might try deleting /etc/ssh (rm -rf /etc/ssh; mkdir /etc/ssh) then try again
[07:08] <Tiradin> lol  well then SOMEONE in here should know how I can get access to the full colour scheme
[07:08] <Tru7h> I didn't even touch it
[07:08] <DARKGuy> ouch
[07:08] <Tiradin> and how to change it.
[07:08] <rococo> Tiradin: I alternate between xchat and riece (which is an emacs extension that does IRC)
[07:08] <Tru7h> that has my backups
[07:08] <Tru7h> I lost everything
[07:08] <Tru7h> this sucks
[07:08] <Tru7h> noo
[07:08] <Tru7h> omg
[07:08] <sdf> dr_willis http://www.mondrian-ide.com/download.html
[07:08] <dr_willis> excalibas,  i tink its  'sshd start'
[07:08] <idefixx> Tiradin: i dont.. in any case there a some themes on the homepage somewhere.
[07:08] <beford> Tiradin, try changing the layout, View -> Layout -> Tabs it'll look more like mirc that way.
[07:08] <Toma-> Tiradin: Settings > Prefs > Colours?
[07:09] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..DONT DO THAT
[07:09] <Tiradin> Toma: already done... not extensive enough :/
[07:09] <Toma-> Tru7h: wha did you do?
[07:09] <idefixx> Tiradin: google it .. take a look at the official forum and from there on you'll find some links.
[07:09] <Tiradin> idefixx: good advice, thank you...
[07:09] <idefixx> Tiradin: that how i found it a few years ago :)
[07:09] <sdf> dr_willis did you enter the link?
[07:09] <pyro541> DARKGuy: yah, no
[07:09] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, dont do what? the remove thging?
[07:09] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..save ssh_config and sshd_config first
[07:09] <Tiradin> :P
[07:09] <pyro541> DARKGuy: it still dont like my drivers
[07:09] <Tru7h> I was trying to partition my 80gb internal drive to install ubuntu
[07:10] <dr_willis> sdf,  nope. :)
[07:10] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..save then put them back in /etc/ssh after you recreate it
[07:10] <Tiradin> idefixx: How about minimizing Xchat off my bottom panel? :P
[07:10] <DARKGuy> pyro541: huh, what's your nvidia card?
[07:10] <sdf> dr_willis  do you program with ruby?
[07:10] <Tru7h> after I tried to add an ext3 and linux-swap under an extended partition it gave me an error and told me to restart
[07:10] <dr_willis> sdf,  I tend to use perl and my programing tends tobe like 30 line scripyts at the most
[07:10] <mkquist> DARKGuy: where would i manually edit the config - if you will
[07:10] <Tru7h> well, I did and I figured I'd just boot to windows and work on installing Ubunut in the morning
[07:10] <nsap> ok i removed the splash screen it gets to about the 4th loading step (loading hardware) i believe and then a very long error message pops us before it freezes
[07:10] <pyro541> DARKGuy: and I got a 'no' I have a Geforce 4
[07:10] <DARKGuy> sdf: I used to
[07:10] <Tru7h> but it said 0 active partitions
[07:10] <mkquist> DARKGuy: which file?
[07:10] <Tru7h> so I booted up Ubuntu
[07:10] <dr_willis> sdf,  i dont need ide's for that. There are several general language ides out however.
[07:10] <idefixx> Tiradin: do you mean the tray?
[07:10] <pygresql> how do i install symfony php5 on my ubuntu?
[07:10] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..it won't recreate those files unless you do apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server
[07:10] <DARKGuy> mkquist: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:10] <DARKGuy> mkquist: edit it with sudo
[07:10] <mkquist> DARKGuy:  ty
[07:10] <Tru7h> and according to GNOME Partitioner
[07:10] <pygresql> hello
[07:11] <DARKGuy> mkquist: er, sudo nano, or gksudo gedit
[07:11] <Tru7h> both my internal drive
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: the damn thing works fine for the same game under windows
[07:11] <pygresql> anybody help me
[07:11] <DARKGuy> pyro541: GeForce4 Ti 4200?
[07:11] <Tiradin> idefixx: most likely... the Xchat icon is already in the top right panel... i want to minimize it OFF the bottom panel, so it's only up there :P
[07:11] <Tru7h> and my external drive (which I didn't even touch) are nothing but unaccolated space
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: something like that
[07:11] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..just follow what I just said if you already deleted the dir
[07:11] <Tru7h> I'm crushed
[07:11] <sdf> DARKGUY how can i install ide for ruby?
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: it was a stock card, so Im not sure
[07:11] <Tru7h> I backed up my c: drive
[07:11] <Tru7h> on my external drive
[07:11] <DARKGuy> pyro541: get the nVIDIA 9631 driver... newer drivers won't work for it, I have one like that
[07:11] <Tru7h> I thought I was prepared
[07:11] <Tru7h> but it wiped that outntoo
[07:11] <Tru7h> how
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: and I dont feel like digging around in my box right after I got everything working
[07:11] <DARKGuy> pyro541: from the same site, go to the linux driver archive :P
[07:11] <Toma-> Tru7h: try running 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda' or whatever dev entry you external hardrive is
[07:12] <DARKGuy> pyro541: that's ok :P
[07:12] <pyro541> DARKGuy: well, I have 9639
[07:12] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..that should get ssh to start
[07:12] <excalibas> dlflinuxguy, now i am completely lost, sould i do rm -rf /etc/ssh; mkdir /etc/ssh?
[07:12] <DARKGuy> pyro541: try with 9631, those are the latest for this card IIRC, newer don't seem to work :(
[07:12] <idefixx> Tiradin: hmm afaik know that should be standard behaviour as of feisty. are you on feisty?
[07:12] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server
[07:12] <mark_> Does anybody have experience with getting the Turtle Beach Advanced Audio Micro USB sound card working in Feisty?
[07:12] <pyro541> DARKGuy: gahh, stupid confusing numbers >.<
[07:12] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..sorry for the confusion
[07:12] <stmiller> 887 users in #gentoo, 678 in #debian. 1029 in #ubuntu !
[07:12] <DARKGuy> pyro541: huh? o.o
[07:13] <idefixx> Tiradin: did you click on the tray icon? (top right) and not just minimize it?
[07:13] <DARKGuy> stmiller: yay
[07:13] <nsap> can anyone help me? ubuntu is not booting
[07:13] <Tru7h> Toma: It says "The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9726.
[07:13] <Tru7h> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[07:13] <Tru7h> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[07:13] <Tru7h> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[07:13] <Tru7h> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[07:13] <Tru7h>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[07:13] <Tru7h> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite)
[07:13] <Tru7h> "
[07:13] <DARKGuy> ahhhh
[07:13] <Tru7h> DOes that atleast mean it's not wiped??
[07:13] <n2diy> stmiller: what about slackware?
[07:13] <DARKGuy> !pastebin | Tru7h
[07:13] <ubotu> Tru7h: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:13] <Tiradin> idefixx: if feisty is Ubuntu 7.04 or which
[07:13] <Tiradin> whichever*
[07:13] <idefixx> !paste | Tru7h
[07:13] <Tru7h> Sorry
[07:13] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server <<<<just do this and that should fix you up
[07:13] <Tiradin> idefixx: clicking the Xchat icon does work.. i didn't know that
[07:13] <stmiller> 237 users in #slackware
[07:13] <Toma-> Tru7h: yeh. try hitting w and cross your fingers...
[07:14] <idefixx> Tiradin: :)
[07:14] <n2diy> stmiller: roger that, are the active or quite?
[07:14] <Tru7h> hitting w?
[07:14] <dr_willis> Tru7h,  i saw a similer error to that on my NDAS hard drive the other day
[07:14] <mkquist> Tru7h - how old is ur system?
[07:14] <pyro541> DARKGuy: how do I kill a wayward process in linux?
[07:14] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, no problem for the confusion, i have been confused for hours i am very glad i am getting some help :)
[07:14] <mark_> All: I need help with a USB audio device.  I can get sound when I test it in the sound preferences but when I play any kind of video, nothing
[07:14] <Tru7h> About one or two years old
[07:14] <Tru7h> mkquist ^
[07:14] <pyro541> DARKGuy: firefox is acting up
[07:14] <mkquist> Tru7h: well then its not really old
[07:14] <stmiller> those are just total number of users in the channel
[07:14] <DARKGuy> pyro541: look at the list with "ps -ax" then kill it by its id with "kill xxxx" <- where xxxx is the process ID
[07:15] <dfwlinuxguy> brb
[07:15] <pyro541> ok
[07:15] <yobrien> pyro541: system->admin->system monitor
[07:15] <Tru7h> mkquist | Toma | dr_willis Is my drive wiped?
[07:15] <DARKGuy> pyro541: if it doesn't work, then "kill -9 xxxx" .... though this isn't a very elegant way of killing things as it's something like forcing it, it works most of the time :P
[07:15] <Toma-> Tru7h: no. your patition tables are screwed
[07:15] <Toma-> *partition
[07:15] <dr_willis> Tru7h,  not sure.. i just happend to get a similer error as that on my network-hard-disk i bought last week..
[07:15] <mkquist> Tru7h - can you see anything in live cd? or can you make any partitions?
[07:16] <DARKGuy> pyro541: that's 'cause you clicked the button when downloading the driver, try right-clicking it and choose Save Link As :)
[07:16] <n2diy> stmiller: ok, I'll check it out, a guy on my local lug told me there was better support for slack, then there was for ubunutu
[07:16] <Tiradin> idefixx: AHAH! i have to do the colour in CODE
[07:16] <mkquist> Tru7h: might be time to d/l some hd testing tools from it maker then and see if its given up on you? any idea what type of drive?
[07:16] <Tru7h> mkquist: The partitioner says that both of my drives are nothing but onaccolated space, and I can't check it otherwise because nautilus crashes
[07:17] <pyro541> DARKGuy: no, it was that when I restarted the GUI, firefox froze or somehting
[07:17] <mkquist> Tru7h: can you make any partitions? or do you have data that *might* get lost?
[07:17] <DARKGuy> pyro541: crazy, could you kill it?
[07:17] <dr_willis> n2diy,  i found support for slack - to be lacking compared to ubuntu.
[07:17] <pyro541> DARKGuy: yah
[07:17] <idefixx> Tiradin: i think, its been a long time since i used xchat.. i know there a some theme files... that essentialy just set colors in a script.
[07:17] <randoman_> hey guys quick question, during the installation process of ubuntu live cd, it reboots all of a sudden around 60 -70 % anyy ideas on this?
[07:17] <yobrien> dr_willis: are you talking about slackware?
[07:17] <DARKGuy> pyro541: good :) get the 9631 driver, kill X and install the driver then try to come back :)
[07:17] <sdf> i want install ide for ruby ??
[07:18] <dawn_chorus> randoman_, no messages or anything?
[07:18] <randoman_> this is on a emachine celeron 2.0 ghz with 384k memory
[07:18] <mkquist> randoman - did you check the disk to make sure its a good d/l burn?
[07:18] <randoman_> not that we notice
[07:18] <n2diy> dr_willis: roger that, which is what I suspected, but this guy insists slack is the way to go for newbies, not.
[07:18] <randoman_> yeah its a good burn
[07:18] <DARKGuy> sdf: there isn't any IDE for ruby. Ruby has no IDE... all you can do is to use Glade, and find a tutorial on google on how to implement Glade windows into Ruby
[07:18] <Tru7h> mkquist: I dont really know. I just know that my computer wont boot windows and the partitioner says both my drives are unaccolated space
[07:18] <yobrien> 384k ... min for linux is 4mb
[07:18] <randoman_> iinstalled it on my dell
[07:18] <dr_willis> n2diy,  id def. have to say Ubuntu for Newbies
[07:18] <randoman_> and have beryl working on that system
[07:18] <Tru7h> I'm also tired and really freaked out
[07:18] <randoman_> it jsut does this on this sytem
[07:18] <dr_willis> n2diy,  that Slax Live cd is darn handy however. :)
[07:18] <mkquist> Tru7h: well you could try making a partition w/live cd and see if it takes
[07:18] <pyro541> DARKGuy: kk
[07:19] <n2diy> dr_willis: roger that, and that is what i'm doing.
[07:19] <edd> randoman i think u have to check your internet connection
[07:19] <Tiradin> idefixx: I just confirmed it... if you go to "text events" in the Settings > Advanced, it gives you all the events colour coded.... the codes correspond to the colours in Preferences > Colors
[07:19] <pyro541> DARKGuy: idk why they have drivers on their sites that dont work
[07:19] <randoman_> humm really
[07:19] <chillax> hey noobs
[07:19] <DARKGuy> pyro541: let it edit the Xorg.conf too, when asked
[07:19] <sdf> DARKRGUY  http://www.mondrian-ide.com/download.html   CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS THIS?
[07:19] <n2diy> dr_willis: as handy as knoppix?
[07:19] <randoman_> why would that cause it to reboot?
[07:19] <DARKGuy> pyro541: lol, it's not that... it's just that our card is too old xD
[07:19] <Tru7h> mkquist: Will my stuff be on it? Because right now my only concern is getting my stuff back.
[07:19] <DARKGuy> sdf: I can read lowercase too ^^ lemme see
[07:19] <mkquist> Tru7h: well, right now it doesnt sound like it... =(
[07:19] <edd> coz it always depends onthe package from ubuntu database on the net
[07:20] <randoman_> oh so your saying its losing connection with the db
[07:20] <sdf> DARKGUY WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
[07:20] <yobrien> CAPSLOCK
[07:20] <Lilacor> sdf: it's a developer program
[07:20] <Lilacor> sdf: for developing programs in ruby
[07:20] <sdf> ok
[07:20] <randoman_> we even downloaded the txt based cd and its doing the same thing
[07:20] <mkquist> Tru7h: but if its a failing drive you might be able to let it cool off and access it later, they usually get a bit dodgy before they totally die, though not always, if thats it
[07:20] <Tru7h> mkquist<EMAIL_ADDRESS>What about one of those data recovery things?
[07:20] <DARKGuy> sdf: Huh, I wish I could've found something like that in the past XD... it's an ide for Ruby, yes o.o
[07:20] <DARKGuy> sdf: then get it :P
[07:21] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. ok...sorry this is so complicated...did you do my last?
[07:21] <pyro542> DARKGuy: nope, didnt work
[07:21] <Tru7h> mkquist: I dont think the drive itself has failed or anything. I think I messed something up in the partitioner, but I dont really know.
[07:21] <stmiller> anyone use mt-daap? On a server? Since upgrading to iTunes 7.2 on my OS X box it cannot connect to my mt-daap
[07:21] <randoman_> ok my buddy just told me that it begins to install the base syystem , then it begins to install the packages it gets to 3% and reboots
[07:21] <DARKGuy> pyro542: any errors or anything? what does /var/log/Xorg.log shows? can you pastebin it
[07:21] <DARKGuy> ?
[07:21] <mkquist> Tru7h: what did u do?
[07:21] <sdf> DARKGUY hehe
[07:21] <pyro542> DARKGuy: how do I do that?
[07:21] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server <<<<just do this and that should fix you up
[07:21] <sdf> DARKGUY sorry if i annoy you
[07:22] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. should start after this...you can use netstat -a to confirm
[07:22] <Tiradin> That should do something.
[07:22] <Tiradin> HEY
[07:22] <DARKGuy> pyro542: read the file "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and paste its content in what ubotu will say
[07:22] <DARKGuy> !pastebin
[07:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:22] <Tiradin> i can see what i'm typing now... haha... i'm figuring things out! I feel smart.
[07:22] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, yes, just finished, now is /etc/init.d/ssh start?
[07:22] <dudubs> how i cancel the login screen and set it to default user in ubuntu?
[07:22] <randoman_> so it sounds like the installation is losing connection with the db causing it to reboot?
[07:22] <DARKGuy> sdf: that's ok :P
[07:22] <sdf> ok
[07:23] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. it should be started...netstat -a | grep ssh should show LISTEN
[07:23] <kadaz> YAH
[07:23] <n2diy> Tiradin: :)
[07:23] <kadaz> got it working !!
[07:23] <yobrien> dudubs: system->admin->login window
[07:23] <anon2000> hi, i am interested in creating a shared partition between windows and linux for storing music/etc but im not sure what file system to use on the partition? i have run into problems with ntfs writing with linux and fat32 has the 4gb file limit, so i think ill try either ext2 or ext3 (with ext2 IFS driver for windows) though i'm not sure which one to use. is ext3 preferable to ext2?
[07:23] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:23] <dudubs> thanks
[07:23] <edd> randoman, i think there's a problem in your Ubuntu CD, did you check md5sum files? after you downloaded it?
[07:23] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.once ssh server is up..you can use scp to transfer the files
[07:24] <randoman_> ive used the same cd to install it onto another computer lastnight
[07:24] <stmiller> anon2000: there is a good ext3 driver for windows out there somewhere
[07:24] <randoman_> flawless
[07:24] <Ayabara> How can I make firefox use mplayer or vlc plugin instead of totem? I installed the plugins and thought/hoped it should happen automatically.
[07:24] <kadaz> thx clearzne pepo and hmm
[07:24] <n2diy> anon2000: yes ext3 seems to be the default linux fs now.
[07:24] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, it says listen, will try now scp
[07:24] <stmiller> ext3 is journaled, is the main difference. Better
[07:24] <Tru7h> mkquist: I dont know. In a nutshell everythign I remember doing is resizing my NTFS partition (with windows on it) and creating an ext3 partition. Then I fond out that I oculdn't create a linux-swap partition because I had 4 already, so I deleted the ext3 and replaced it with an extended partition and tried to put an ext3 and linux swap in that. It gave me an error that said ubuntu wouldn't know what it wass unless I rebooted (or something
[07:24] <DARKGuy> anon2000: ext3 is the way to go, at least for me. I haven't done anything similar but I've used extfs to get some files from my Ubuntu partition... thing is when you reboot into Ubuntu again, it will complain about file dates/sizes/etc and might do a small fsck, but it works nonetheless, it's just a sync error :P
[07:24] <Tiradin> ah.... much better.
[07:24] <yobrien> Ayabara: can you remove the totem plugin pacakge?
[07:24] <edd> randoman, coudl u tell me your pc specification?
[07:25] <pyro542> DARKGuy: there is nothing in the logs
[07:25] <anon2000> hmm maybe i should stic kwith fat32
[07:25] <DARKGuy> pyro542: what about Xorg.log ?
[07:25] <pyro542> DARKGuy: maby
[07:25] <anon2000> damn 4gb limit though
[07:25] <Tiradin> fdwrqw
[07:25] <dfwlinuxguy> ayabara apt-get --purge remove totem-mozilla; apt-get install mozilla-mplayer should get mplayer instead of totem working
[07:25] <randoman_> its a emachines, celeron 2.2 ghz 128 cache, 384 meg pc2700 ram,
[07:25] <yobrien> anon2000: fat32 can be bigger than 4gb cant it?
[07:25] <stmiller> fat32 sucks
[07:26] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.yes scp will work now
[07:26] <anon2000> yobrien i meant the file size limit
[07:26] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ah, nevermind, i forgot about the case sensitivity. old DOS habits die hard
[07:26] <yobrien> anon2000: just not vert efficient
[07:26] <yobrien> anon2000: right
[07:26] <stmiller> fat32 cannot read/write files over 4gb ? I think
[07:26] <mkquist> Tru7h: windows xp?
[07:26] <DARKGuy> pyro542: yeah XD
[07:27] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, connection timed out... not working, what should i use in user and pass, the same i am using in linux or should i create a new user?
[07:27] <pyro542> !pastebin
[07:27] <anon2000> i would use ntfs but ntfs-3g nuked one of my ntfs partitions so im wary of trying that again
[07:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .,.. you can even use filezilla to transfer the files...b/c ssh includes a sftp server
[07:27] <Tru7h> mkquist Yes, XP
[07:27] <mkquist> Tru7h: one drive one partition, resized to make one windows? one linux and swap? was that the goal there?
[07:27] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .,..ssh username@host
[07:27] <ShadyTree> hey, someone told me a laptop with Ubuntu and XP accidentally got washed in a dishwashing machine, and after it was dried off the Ubuntu still ran but the XP didnt
[07:27] <Tiradin> YAR
[07:27] <edd> randoman, do you have how many partition in your harddisk?
[07:27] <randoman_> oh yeah intel motherboard
[07:27] <DARKGuy> ShadyTree: LOL
[07:27] <stmiller> !
[07:27] <Tiradin> I've configured xchat to something like what I want, lol
[07:27] <jonathan_> hi
[07:28] <Tru7h> To install ubuntu on the ext3 with swap for memory and still have windows
[07:28] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .....ping host
[07:28] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, what is the host?
[07:28] <Tru7h> mkquist ^
[07:28] <jonathan_> heloo everybody!
[07:28] <edd> randoman, mine is intel motherboard too
[07:28] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .....(hostname) or IP address (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[07:28] <jonathan_> somebody can help me?
[07:28] <randoman_> 3, 1 ntfs, 1 linux ext3,1swap
[07:28] <randoman_> 3 partitions
[07:28] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....or whatever the IP is
[07:28] <jonathan_> to installing vmware tools on my ubuntu 7.04
[07:28] <jussi01> !ask | jonathan_
[07:28] <jonathan_> anybody!
[07:28] <ubotu> jonathan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:28] <mkquist> Tru7h: so you dont need extended partitions, just one for windows, one for linux and one swap, so how did u get 4? swap partitions?
[07:28] <Tiradin> Alright, now i've got it... ya.
[07:28] <DARKGuy> I once read somewhere that if you play a windoze CD backwards you will hear a devil's message, but if you play it forwards it will install windoze! xD
[07:28] <Ayabara> yobrien, dfwlinuxguy, that did the trick. thanks.
[07:29] <pyro542> DARKGuy: heres the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23546/
[07:29] <jonathan_> how to installing vmware tools
[07:29] <jonathan_> ?
[07:29] <DARKGuy> pyro542: ok, lemme check
[07:29] <Tiradin> SWEET i'm not dumb, haha...
[07:29] <Tiradin> alright people, time for me to sleep it up... thanks for everyones help!
[07:29] <Tru7h> mkquist: There were two other (hidden I assume) partitions that I guess came already on my computer (It's a dell) called DellRestore and DellUtilities. I didn't want to mess with them.
[07:29] <dfwlinuxguy> ayabara great!
[07:29] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy i put the ip adress in the host name, and what about the user name and password?
[07:29] <DARKGuy> pyro542: huh, there's something really wrong with your xorg.conf file as I can see
[07:30] <stmiller> jonathan_ : is vmware running INSIDE ubuntu?  I think
[07:30] <jonathan_> yes
[07:30] <jonathan_> I'm running ubuntu inside my vmware
[07:31] <jonathan_> somebody help me to install vmware tools
[07:31] <jonathan_> I don't get it
[07:31] <pyro542> DARKGuy: why? whats wrong with it?
[07:31] <DARKGuy> pyro542: try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to see if that does something, then press control+alt+backspace
[07:31] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, connection timed out
[07:31] <stmiller> jonathan_: okay you'll have to probably get to a terminal to mount the 'fake' vmware cd
[07:31] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....once you can do that...use filezilla to log in sftp to transfer the files
[07:31] <DARKGuy> pyro542: it's still using the ubuntu "nv" driver, and it should be using "nvidia"
[07:31] <jonathan_> it is
[07:31] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:31] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....ping host (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[07:31] <randoman_> so edd you do some investigations?
[07:31] <jonathan_> vmwaretools.tar.gz
[07:31] <stmiller> jonathan_: hang tight let me find the link on vmware.com
[07:31] <Tru7h> mkquist: This just plain sucks... Everything. My pictures my videos my websites my programs my bookmarks my signature PSDs my backups...
[07:31] <jonathan_> what should I do?
[07:31] <jonathan_> ok
[07:31] <mkquist> Tru7h: so on boot nothing happens?
[07:32] <mkquist> Tru7h: im assuming you didnt back up huh... sry
[07:32] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....if you can't ping the host then either your windows or linux box isn't talking on the network
[07:32] <pyro542> DARKGuy: no, nothing. command not found error
[07:32] <Tru7h> mkquist: On boot, if my live CD isn't in it says "o active partitions, F1 to retay bot, F2 for setup."
[07:32] <DARKGuy> pyro542: nvidia drivers weren't installed then.
[07:32] <Tru7h> retry boot*
[07:32] <DARKGuy> pyro542: okay, let's go step-by-step
[07:32] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:33] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....ifconfig on linux will tell you the IP....ipconfig /all on windows
[07:33] <edd> randoman : try this steps ok? first: reboot your system, run your ubuntu live cd, then install it again, after that choose manually harddisk partition, then reformat your ext3 partition, next make this new ext3 partition use as "/' and the other as swap and media hda1 ( windows partition), then you can continue the installation. Btw I think you should note this ok..good luck
[07:33] <mkquist> Tru7h: ok and in live cd partitioner it shows no partitions at all?
[07:33] <Tru7h> mkquist: I did back up, but it looks like it erased the drive I backed everything up on
[07:33] <DARKGuy> pyro542: what's the full name of the nvidia driver file you are trying to install?
[07:33] <Tru7h> mkquist : Yes, nothing at all
[07:33] <mkquist> Tru7h: check ur bios make sure ur not trying to boot off maybe wrong drive
[07:33] <stmiller> jonathan_: try this   mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[07:33] <stmiller> cd /tmp
[07:33] <stmiller> tar zxf /mnt/cdrom/vmware-linux-tools.tar.gz
[07:33] <stmiller> umount /mnt/cdrom
[07:33] <randoman_> for sure
[07:33] <pyro542> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[07:33] <mkquist> Tru7h: that can give a similar effect here on boot
[07:34] <edd> got it randoman?
[07:34] <randoman_> pretty sure
[07:34] <stmiller> jonathan_: then this: cd vmware-tools-distrib
[07:34] <stmiller> ./vmware-install.pl
[07:34] <randoman_> ill give it a shot
[07:34] <pyro542> DARKGuy: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[07:34] <Heptofite> so, what i was going to ask before being rudely redirected to another channel: is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:34] <KevinOman> is there a graphical editor for grub?
[07:34] <Tru7h> mkquist: Yeah, IU went in and checked the boot sequence. It's either the IDE CD-Rom drive (LiveCD) or the hard drive.
[07:34] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman gksu gedit
[07:34] <kadaz> I wonder if there's been a inflow flux since win vista :D
[07:35] <Tru7h> MKquist: And it's the right one, I'm pretty sure
[07:35] <edd> randoman: i'mwaiting for your reply in my email if you have any trouble<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:35] <mkquist> Tru7h: u only have one drive then right?
[07:35] <DARKGuy> pyro542: cool. I bet you know already how to change between terminals (control+alt+f1 thru f6). We'll use a second terminal to get in contact. First you need to get an IRC client, try "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[07:35] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...making progress?
[07:35] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...can
[07:35] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:35] <Tru7h> mkquist: No, I have my main hard drive and an external USB drive which is the one I put my backups on
[07:35] <DARKGuy> pyro542: so I can help you while you're in console with no X =)
[07:35] <Heptofite>  is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:35] <randoman_> alright
[07:35] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...can't transfer files unless the boxes can "talk" to each other
[07:35] <randoman_> thanks
[07:36] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy,  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> this means my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[07:36] <Tru7h> the USB one is 160 GBs and it's also empty in the partitioner, no partitions.
[07:36] <jonathan_> ok
[07:36] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...yes
[07:36] <mkquist> Tru7h: well the external should be ok then, ubuntu might just be having a prob reading it
[07:36] <excalibas> how can i ping xp from xubuntu?
[07:36] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...and your windows box?
[07:36] <KevinOman> dfwlinuxguy: I meant a standalone aplication for editing grub
[07:36] <Heptofite>  is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:36] <excalibas> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:36] <mkquist> Tru7h: that one should be unplugged anyway while u do ur set-up, id think just to be safe
[07:36] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:36] <pyro542> DARKGuy: thats done
[07:36] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, that's good to know. I'll take it with me tommorow and see if it works on my other PC.... If it does I should be able to restore the backup on a fresh install of XP
[07:36] <varka> pyro542: DARKGuy: this version is already in the repositories and is called 'nvidia-glx'. so why do you want to install it manually?
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman gedit can edit grub...personally I use emacs....maybe I don't understand your question?
[07:37] <gravemind> hey peeps - I'm using an external harddisk formatted in hfs+ from my mac - I can see the files, but I can't copy them to the computer. What gives?
[07:37] <KevinOman> Heptofite: have you heard of ubuntu studio
[07:37] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy,<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:37] <mkquist> Tru7h: id say, unplug ur external, restore windows w/dell disc or whatever and ull prob see the drive
[07:37] <captaintrips> argh..... i cant get anything to work with my wifi card. aside from iwlist scan
[07:37] <rollerskatejamms> Hey I'm having a really weird issue. I have a brand new Thinkpad T61 with an nvidia video card, but X will only start with vesa, both the nv and nvidia drivers fail.
[07:37] <Heptofite> KevinOman, which is what exactly?
[07:37] <jonathan_> oh my
[07:37] <jonathan_> still can't
[07:37] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, I'll try that.
[07:37] <Tru7h> TOmmorow though
[07:37] <mkquist> Tru7h: then u can try ur install again w/ubuntu, just keep that one unplugged till u get it all settled
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...they both have the same IP address....not workable
[07:37] <gravemind> it was automatically detected when I plugged in the usb - firewire didn't work for some reason
[07:37] <pyro542> varka: I can install it some other way?
[07:37] <DARKGuy> varka: nvidia drivers always work, the packages give tons of problems =/ at least in my experience with 3 cards and 6 ubuntu installs (edgy & fawn)
[07:37] <captaintrips> got kismet to start, but shows no channel hopping or networks
[07:37] <Tru7h> I'm traumatized and speely
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...change one of them to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...change one of them to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:37] <Tru7h> sleepy*
[07:38] <Tru7h> I'm going to bed
[07:38] <Tru7h> goodnight,,,
[07:38] <mkquist> Tru7h: g/l
[07:38] <mkquist> Tru7h: gnite to u
[07:38] <KevinOman> dfwlinuxguy: there's a program in kde control panel that lets you edit the lilo config real easily, I do not want to edit the text and mess something up
[07:38] <DARKGuy> varka: if you want to help pyro542 with that method, that's alright :P but I've never done it so you'll be on your own :S
[07:38] <pyro542> lol, speely
[07:38] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...can't have 2 machines with the same IP address
[07:38] <kkathman> does anyone  know of a Linux app like Snag-It ??
[07:38] <stmiller> jonathan_: just read over the vmware documentation. On their website, or the help part of vmware
[07:38] <randoman_> just wanted to say thanks edd again
[07:38] <varka> DARKGuy: my experience ist the other way round and in fact you should give the repository a try before using manual install, cause the other way round is even harder most times
[07:39] <randoman_> ill let you know how it goes
[07:39] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman this is the ubuntu forum not the kubuntu forum...grub is the standard boot-loader...I had no idea you were using lilo
[07:39] <paroxysm> what's the best screencasting package for ubuntu?
[07:39] <gravemind> "sudo: cd: command not found"
[07:39] <gravemind> wtf?
[07:39] <jonathan_> can u send me the link stmiller?
[07:39] <pyro542> varka: well, if you can help me in some easy way, Ill try that, then try the hard way
[07:39] <jonathan_> hm...
[07:39] <jonathan_> can we have a private chat??
[07:39] <jonathan_> this place so crowded
[07:39] <DARKGuy> varka: *shrug* I trust nvidia more, I'll read and learn too then :P
[07:39] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman I'm so sorry I can't be more helpful...I edit lilo and grub with text editors
[07:40] <pyro542> varka: assuming the pakage dosent work
[07:40] <DARKGuy> paroxysm: istanbul
[07:40] <stmiller> jonathan_: no private chats unless you register with freenode.net
[07:40] <paroxysm> DARKGuy: what a weird name lol, thanks i'll check it out
[07:40] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman if there is a gui tool, I'm un-aware of it
[07:40] <DARKGuy> paroxysm: it's great, welcome :P
[07:40] <jonathan_> oh..
[07:40] <jonathan_> ok
[07:40] <varka> pyro542: what type of chipset does your nvidia have?
[07:40] <jonathan_> i'll tried to register
[07:40] <jonathan_> this is my first time using linux
[07:40] <pyro542> DARKGuy: x86?
[07:41] <pyro542> varka: x86?
[07:41] <Helmi> g'morning
[07:41] <DARKGuy> pyro542: nu, your nvidia card, you said it was a GeForce4 no?
[07:41] <pyro542> DARKGuy: yah
[07:41] <stmiller> jonathan_: see if this helps: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[07:41] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, i changed the ip, but still cant ping...
[07:41] <DARKGuy> pyro542: there, varka will help you now :P
[07:41] <jonathan_> ok
[07:41] <Helmi> does anyone know how to disable spellchecking within pidgin? can't find the option
[07:41] <jonathan_> thx
[07:41] <excalibas> my network connectrion shows connectren in xp
[07:41] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:42] <pyro542> varka: so what do I do?
[07:42] <stmiller> jonathan_: oops crap wrong link
[07:42] <Heptofite>  is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:42] <randoman_> edd dont you think I can rename the partition with out it diong the initial install before lke you were saying
[07:42] <gravemind> how do I find out what /dev my external drive is? it was dectedted automatically, not in fstab
[07:42] <Heptofite> !codecs
[07:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <tin_nqn> hello people. I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04 in a laptop HP omnibook x3, and it boots ok, but the X crashs at the beginning
[07:42] <varka> pyro542: ok, thats what i wanted to know, DARKGuy, lets try the repository just once if it doesnt work its easily deinstalled in you can try it manually with him, ok?
[07:42] <jonathan_> by the way
[07:42] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...you have to be "talking" on the same network...Linux - <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  Windows <IP_ADDRESS> netmast <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:42] <varka> pyro542: just a second
[07:42] <tin_nqn> I've found this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89892