[02:25] <Viper550> Hello!
[02:26] <Madpilot> hi Viper550
[02:27] <Viper550> Got the email about Tropic's release?
[02:27] <Madpilot> yesterday or the day before, wasn't it?
[02:27] <Viper550> Yeah, last night EST!
[02:29] <Madpilot> hmm, I did read it
[02:29] <Madpilot> sorry, Thursday thru Sunday is the busy middle of my working week, so I tend to hit the "next" button a lot in my email ;)
[02:30] <Viper550> Like it? Please note, although it doesn't actually say it, the wallpaper actually packaged is slightly dimmer than shown in the screenshot
[04:03] <Madpilot> OK, Fyre is seriously cool. It uses as much CPU time as it can get it's grubby paws on, though!
[04:37] <Madpilot> I'm not sure what it's for - aside from "to look kind of cool" - but if someone likes it, they can adopt it and have the SVG too: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu-distorted1.png
[04:40] <Gareth^> interesting Madpilot - I like the curves and how they look more like people's shoulders (and thus more humane)
[04:40] <Madpilot> hadn't thought of it that way
[04:41] <Madpilot> I saw some Fedora-inspired grafitti-like artwork and figured I'd see what the Ubuntu logo looks like with the same treatment
[04:46] <Madpilot> http://mihmo.livejournal.com/30396.html
[04:47] <Gareth^> ah yeah, I can see what you mean
[12:53] <msikma> Arrgh
[12:54] <msikma> I know that you guys want to keep the wiki cleaned up
[12:54] <msikma> But seriously, I'm reading through backlogs of the artwork channel and a lot of wikipages I'm trying to look up no longer exist
[12:56] <msikma> Also, Troy wikified some wallpaper suggestions for people who couldn't wikify them themselves, but mine isn't in there for some reason.
[01:00] <msikma> Of course there is nobody active on the IRC channel to talk about it...
[01:01] <msikma> Is there really not _anybody_ else active?
[01:56] <mhb> hello to all respected art workers :o)
[03:40] <HiddenWolf> Hey guys. I was wondering if we could see an ubuntu theme with facebrowser for edgy's GDM
[05:35] <troy_s> kwwii you in?
[05:40] <viper550> Well, I'm in at least
[05:42] <troy_s> You are what?
[05:43] <viper550> What? Never mind...
[05:44] <troy_s> ?
[05:44] <troy_s> Never mind?
[05:44] <viper550> What do you mean by "You are what?"
[05:45] <troy_s> You said 'you are in'
[05:45] <troy_s> And I didn't quite understand what you meant.
[05:45] <viper550> It was in response to "kwwii you in?". I'm just saying that I'm here too!
[05:48] <troy_s> ahhhh... now I get it.
[05:49] <HiddenWolf> Can we do something about https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-artwork/+bug/14630
[05:52] <viper550> Well, my new Tropic GDM screen does have a face list
[05:54] <troy_s> HiddenWolf, what do you mean?
[05:54] <HiddenWolf> troy_s, there is an attachement of a theme
[05:55] <HiddenWolf> troy_s, I for one really miss an ubuntu-themed face browser, which is what my parents are used to.
[05:55] <troy_s> Yes, but it is unlikely to meet the Edgy development look/feel
[05:55] <troy_s> Face browser has been brought up before, and if one is acceptable
[05:55] <troy_s> I am pretty sure frank will include it.
[05:55] <troy_s> But it will need to meet the Edgy default look
[05:56] <troy_s> Which means that progress needs to be made on that end.
[05:56] <HiddenWolf> I guess the guy that made it would be willing to make one if he's provided with feedback
[05:56] <viper550> Just change the wallpaper
[05:56] <viper550> In mine...sorry
[05:56] <HiddenWolf> ;)
[05:57] <viper550> It's based off this one: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=41621
[05:58] <troy_s> Yes, and bersace is the one who did it, so I am pretty sure it will be easy to get one up once we get the
[05:59] <troy_s> look for edgy further towards the end of Production
[05:59] <troy_s> many new faces in here... good to see.
[05:59] <viper550> Why don't you just use my Tropic GDM?
[05:59] <troy_s> Because it would be hodge podge and unprofessional.
[05:59] <troy_s> Your tropic GDM is for tropic
[06:00] <viper550> Well, with a different Wallpaper!
[06:00] <troy_s> Well I haven't looked at it too closely, but defining professional is a little more than simply changing a wallpaper.
[06:00] <troy_s> You have a link?
[06:00] <viper550> Oh...
[06:01] <viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic (inside the package is a tarball with it)
[06:01] <viper550> I even modded it with one of those new Glossy logos we've been using alot
[06:01] <troy_s> You have very bad screenshots...
[06:01] <troy_s> A) you should screenshot each of the distinct elements and scale them all to the same size
[06:02] <troy_s> look at bersace's outline in archives
[06:02] <troy_s> it is very good.
[06:02] <viper550> Why? It's not a contact sheet
[06:02] <troy_s> Because it looks like nothing...
[06:03] <troy_s> All I can really see is a window border and a scrollbar.
[06:03] <viper550> So you want a full picture? Kinda like my KDE mockup?
[06:03] <troy_s> It is about tying together all of the discreet elements... look at bersace's archive template
[06:03] <viper550> where's that?
[06:03] <troy_s> it is far superior to what you offer.  Right now, your 'theme' doesn't appear to do much.
[06:03] <troy_s> probably in the archives section of artwork wiki :)
[06:04] <viper550> Oh
[06:04] <viper550> Those reviews of past looks
[06:04] <troy_s> Right now, you have sixteen different images that all show _no_ continuity
[06:04] <troy_s> In fact, calling it a theme is rather silly because each image you have right now is completely different.
[06:05] <viper550> You mean you don't like the older screenshots?
[06:05] <viper550> It's Called "Visual Release Notes", Evolution!
[06:05] <troy_s> What does it look like?  What does the GDM look like?  What does the splash look like?  These are all questions that people will want to see.
[06:05] <troy_s> Well where is your summary?
[06:05] <troy_s> I am not going to install it to see it.
[06:05] <troy_s> You need to make it easy for people to see what your look is.
[06:07] <troy_s> Your screenshot of the GDM in your tarball is flawed as well...
[06:07] <viper550> Okay, I'm going to do some restructuring, but putting the wallpaper on a 2nd page so it won't stretch out everything
[06:07] <troy_s> 1) it looks completely unprofessional to simply scribble out the 'ubuntu'
[06:07] <troy_s> scale it.
[06:07] <troy_s> 2) it is simply a recolouring of jmak's work...
[06:07] <troy_s> which is hardly polished.
[06:07] <viper550> What?
[06:08] <viper550> Recoloring of Jmac's work? I didn't get that from Jmac!
[06:08] <troy_s> Sorry....
[06:08] <troy_s> i meant jmak no?
[06:09] <viper550> I designeded based off what is seen on the monitor in the Human icon theme
[06:09] <viper550> I mean designed, sorry
[06:09] <troy_s> Well you understand what I mean though?
[06:09] <viper550> Yeah...
[06:09] <troy_s> If you can't be bothered to take the time to take a good screenshot etc
[06:09] <troy_s> it looks _very_ sloppy
[06:09] <troy_s> and the chances of including something that sloppy is about nil.
[06:10] <troy_s> further, i strongly encourage you to use bersace's archive template to show what the 'look' looks like at a glance
[06:10] <troy_s> scale all of the images so that you can see a few of them on screen at once, etc.
[06:10] <troy_s> make them look uniform.
[06:10] <troy_s> etc
[06:11] <viper550> Okay, as a placeholder for the new format, I'm currently working on a little temporary redesign, I'll kinda make a montage picture of all the elements...
[06:11] <troy_s> well you are _always_ redesiging.
[06:11] <viper550> Or, I'll think about that idea you just said
[06:12] <viper550> Where can you get that GTK Preview program?
[06:13] <troy_s> Widget factory
[06:13] <viper550> No, not that one, the one in the archives, looks nicer!
[06:13] <troy_s> take your time with it... no need to rush rush rush, the more you redesign, the less design there is.
[06:13] <viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Archives/4%2e10
[07:03] <fschoep> troy_s: ping
[08:17] <fschoep> troy_s: ping
[10:46] <kwwii> re


[09:22] <nado_x> I have a question regarding the default themes that are included with Xubuntu.   What are the criteria for including an additional theme, IE. a hidpi variant?
[09:23] <nado_x> or how I would one submit such a request
[09:33] <brainwash> nado_x: you request things via launchpad or mailing list
[09:33] <nado_x> ok, thanks :)
[09:33] <nado_x> i'll take a look there


[01:45] <wxl> aw hell what is wrong with my gpg
[01:49] <wxl> oh phew i was going to have a heart attack
[02:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: About https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25 - so we're on the same page, you know why the answer is in SDDM, right?
[02:33] <tsimonq2> When we find out how $DESKTOP_SESSION is set, that's exactly what we need to fix.
[02:34] <tsimonq2>     QString Session::desktopSession() const
[02:34] <tsimonq2>     {
[02:34] <tsimonq2>         return fileName().replace(s_entryExtention, QString());
[02:34] <tsimonq2>     }
[02:34] <tsimonq2> hmmm
[02:35] <tsimonq2> OH, duh, /usr/share/xsessions only has lxqt.desktop and openbox.desktop...
[02:39] <tsimonq2> aaaand bingo
[02:39] <tsimonq2> In my lubuntu-default-settings upload, xsessions is emptu.
[02:39] <tsimonq2> *empty
[03:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to ubuntu/cosmic: https://git.io/vpbgx
[03:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 27bd7af Simon Quigley: Fix the installation of the xsession file (LP: #1771681).
[03:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] tsimonq2 tagged ubuntu/1.1 at ubuntu/cosmic: https://git.io/vpbgp
[03:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-artwork] tsimonq2 pushed 2 new commits to ubuntu/cosmic: https://git.io/vpbav
[03:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-artwork/ubuntu/cosmic 40a3ffe Simon Quigley: Sync from the archive.
[03:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-artwork/ubuntu/cosmic d281ee1 Simon Quigley: Add additional Conflicts/Replaces on the 18.04 artwork package.
[03:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-artwork] tsimonq2 tagged ubuntu/1.0 at 40a3ffe: https://git.io/vpbaf
[03:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-artwork] tsimonq2 tagged ubuntu/1.1 at ubuntu/cosmic: https://git.io/vpbaJ
 OK, so debian-cd changes are made.
[16:02] <wxl> man i got to get into the habit of using lubuntu-meta rather than ubuntu-seeds
[16:19] <wxl> aw that sucks. you can't run two hypervisors at the same time? baaaaah
[17:41] <wxl> aw darn. the latest image doesn't have lubuntu-default-settings 1.1 in it, @tsimonq2 :(
[17:42] <wxl> !info lubuntu-default-settings cosmic
[17:42] <wxl> wth
[17:43] <wxl> is there some reason it's not published? it built fine and all.
 It just migrated.  The ability to pick a date in time and have an ISO spin up with the exact packages that were on that daily's ISO.
 It's technically possible.
 We have manifests for every daily, and ubuntu-cdimage is open code...
[18:33] <wxl> not sure i grok your meaning @tsimonq2
 @wxl, What about it?
[18:35] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you say you want an iso to be spun up with the packages we have on an iso? XD
 hah well yeah, kinda
[20:52]  * tsimonq2 stretches.
[20:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: How's that ISO looking?
[20:53] <wxl> haven't looked yet
[20:53] <tsimonq2> ughhh
[20:53] <tsimonq2> STILL didn't pull in the right thing.
[20:53]  * tsimonq2 does Yet Another Respin.
[20:53] <wxl> wth
[21:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T31
[21:55] <albinard> Hi - I'm looking for the proper sign-in for the 05/17 ISO of Lubuntu 18.10
[21:56] <tsimonq2> albinard: It's not working right now.
[21:56] <tsimonq2> But, just press Enter.
[21:58] <albinard> Okay - should I wait for a subsequent daily?
[21:58] <tsimonq2> Yep.
[21:58] <tsimonq2> albinard: Should be done in a few.
[21:59] <albinard> Okay - I'll try in a few days.
[22:19] <wxl> @tsimonq2: default-settings is finally in our image
[22:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: YAY.
[22:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: It works. \o/
[22:23] <wxl> niiiice
[22:23] <tsimonq2> k so now my next thing...
[22:23] <tsimonq2> Wallpaper.
[22:24] <wxl> maybe we should make a special call for contributions since we're so busy making these lxqt changes
[22:24] <tsimonq2> Maybe.
[22:27] <wxl> it'd be nice to have some other help
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Then do it. :)
[22:30] <wxl> i need a personal assistant
[22:30] <wxl> "here send this email i'm going to dictate"
[22:31] <tsimonq2> SAME tho. :)
[22:41] <wxl> just subbed ~lubuntu-packaging to lubuntu-* srcpkgs :/
[22:42] <wxl> i don't know how we hadn't done that
[22:43] <wxl> if there are any new lxqt-related packages that we need to add to, please do so
[22:43] <tsimonq2> Roger.
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] tsimonq2 pushed 4 new commits to ubuntu/cosmic: https://git.io/vpAoR
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic b2b31f8 Simon Quigley: Move the contents of /etc/xdg/lubuntu/ to /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/.
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 8f702dd Simon Quigley: Ensure that the Lubuntu session uses our Openbox config.
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 69de170 Simon Quigley: Update runtime dependencies.
[22:58] <tsimonq2> Alright, so the wallpaper and the Openbox theme should be fixed on the next ISO rebuild.
[22:58] <tsimonq2> I might manually prod it later if it migrates before I go to bed.
[23:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: K, so now Phab only looks at LP.
[23:23] <wxl> hm?
[23:24] <tsimonq2> For Git repos.
[23:24] <wxl> it was previously looking where/
[23:24] <tsimonq2> GitHub.
[23:24] <wxl> oh
[23:24] <tsimonq2> Like I said, the long term plan is to make GitHub completely *read* *only*
[23:24] <wxl> k
[23:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: Speaking of that, what do you think about https://phab.lubuntu.me/T31?
[23:28] <wxl> i did comment
[23:28] <wxl> at least that iw wasn't going to do it per se
[23:28] <wxl> but in general i think it's good
[23:29] <tsimonq2> OK.
[23:29] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[23:29] <wxl> we might be able to finagle kde into handling the first part
[23:29] <tsimonq2> ubot93?
[23:29] <wxl> yeah
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Mhhh.
[23:30] <tsimonq2> I doubt it.
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Weeeellllllllll...
[23:30] <wxl> re: the second part i think we should ONLY do what you wrote. no tagging changes
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Pawn it off on Rik? XD
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Sure.
[23:30] <wxl> otherwise it will get really freaking noisy
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Right, lol.
[23:31] <tsimonq2> Be back in a bit.
[23:31] <wxl> i mean for THAT task though there are only two written items, i received 4 notifications
[23:31] <tsimonq2> Right.
[23:31] <wxl> and if we had taken our time between doing some of those things, there are 7 events
[23:31] <tsimonq2> True.
[23:32] <tsimonq2> Anyway, bbiab.
[23:32] <wxl> in general, too, i tend to leave a comment like "this is going to status x because of reason y" so the comment should convey all the meaning
[23:32] <wxl> k
[23:54] <wxl> oh @tsimonq2 now we have a "Lubuntu session," a "LXQT session" AND an "Openbox session?"
[23:54] <wxl> what's the diff between the first two?


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[04:47] <alex_kon_la> #libreoffice-qa
[04:54] <viktor_> Hi all. I've noticed that, in Dolphin, it's not possible to assign tags to files with a Vault. Is there a solution / workaround for this?
 @real_xihnik, Resolved
[05:59] <Swift110-mobile> Sup
 Hello, my laptop running Kubuntu 20.10 is unable to detect the integrated microphone. How can I fix that? Thank you!
 @littlemoths, The microphone is working when I run Kubuntu from a live USB.  … Maybe I accidentally remove something from my system?
[11:29] <uczen> hi
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[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:13] <jackdripper> vlc player has a bug when use the close button (x) instead of useing ctrl +q to close it vlc doesnt allow me to open media files again it just minimizes itself. running it again from console works by the previous process stays
[14:16] <BluesKaj> jackdripper, I had an odd disconnect yesterday with VLC, the HDMI connection went down after closing VLC while checking a movie...needed a hard reboot to reconnect...the logs didn't show any errors. Seems there's a bug in VLC, but my version is on the kubuntu dev OS 21.04 so yours might different
[14:16] <BluesKaj> be
[14:20] <jackdripper> similar problem faced by others https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=149762&start=25
[14:20] <jackdripper> @BluesKaj thats some crazy bug lol
[14:22] <BluesKaj> seems so, maybe stopping play before exiting might work
[14:22] <jackdripper> using ctrl+q doesnt trigger it
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[17:10] <jackdripper> suggest me a good music player thanks because i am unable to drag and drop song on my default music player
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 @join_captcha_bot, Thanks!
[20:34] <juano-M> 15 years ago I was very big fan of Amarok
[20:36] <Unit193> I remember back in 2007 it was great!  ...Crap, that was a long time ago, wasn't it?
[20:38] <juano-M> yea, nostalgia
[20:40] <juano-M> I remember now Amarok with KDE 3.5  🙃
[20:52] <user|67576> is there a way to install iso without disc/usb
[21:59] <mparillo> Yes, but I forget the magic search term. Try ISO Bootstrap? Basically you need to mount your ISO and then install to a partition it is not on. I have never tried it, so it sounds as if you are not careful, you will overwrite everything.