[06:31] <CarlK> what is the command to regen xorg.conf after switching vidio cards?
[06:31] <Dreamer3> anyone here with Hoary, NFS, and Gnome?
[06:32] <Nekohayo> sorry, using reiserFS :P
[06:32] <thoreauputic> CarlK: sudo apkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:32] <thoreauputic> *dpkg
[06:33] <tritium> CarlK, if you've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand, heed the notice at the top of the file.
[06:33] <YankDownUnder> thoreauputic: Erf...."E: Couldn't find package xfce4.2" => clue?
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> night
[06:34] <thoreauputic> YankDownUnder: dunno - probably it's just xfce
[06:34] <thoreauputic> YankDownUnder: try apt-cache search xfce
[06:35] <YankDownUnder> thoreauputic: Nada. Nothing shows.
[06:35] <xamdm> hi @ all
[06:35] <thoreauputic> YankDownUnder: crimsun says -
[06:35] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install xfce4
[06:35] <Dreamer3> anyone here with Hoary, NFS, and Gnome?
[06:35] <tritium> YankDownUnder, and it's in universe
[06:35] <thoreauputic> did you apt-get update?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> from the mailing list post: excuse slight flood -
[06:36] <thoreauputic> 1) Enable universe [http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages]
[06:37] <thoreauputic> 2) sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <thoreauputic> 3) sudo apt-get install xfce4
[06:41] <YankDownUnder> thoreauputic: Strange. Trying to follow the directions at the URL posted but my synaptic ain't like the one they're talking about....
[06:42] <thoreauputic> YankDownUnder: just use apt, it's easy to edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[06:42] <jobezone> Hi, anyone uses gdesklets?
[06:42] <thoreauputic> YankDownUnder: then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xfce4
[06:42] <jobezone> and uses Rhythmlet to control Rhythmbox specifically?
[06:43] <yahalom> this is the third day i'm askign this. can anyone i mean anyone help me with my timezone, cos this really sucks
[06:43] <forcer> Hm. Ok, Ubuntu installed, all is well, just gdm starting gets the monitor to switch off. Seems to be some bad timings. Is there an "official ubuntu way" to fix that, or should I just stick with xf86config?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> jobezone: the only time I tried gdesklets they tried to eat my CPU ;-)
[06:44] <thoreauputic> yahalom: dual boot with windows, by any chance?
[06:44] <jobezone> yahalom, try installing configure-debian , then run it
[06:44] <yahalom> thoreauputic, nope
[06:44] <yahalom> jobezone, apt-get install?
[06:44] <thoreauputic> yahalom: using UTC for system clock?
[06:45] <jobezone> yahalom, I think there might be a configuration option there for timezones.
[06:45] <yahalom> thoreauputic, nope
[06:45] <jobezone> yahalom, yes. I'm not sure if you have to enable universe, or multiverse, or none, though.
[06:45] <YankDownUnder> thoreauputic: Right oh...that works better....
[06:45] <thoreauputic> yahalom: usually it's best to use UTC and let the machine set local time
[06:45] <yahalom> thoreauputic, how do i do that? choose in preferences UTC?
[06:45] <thoreauputic> yahalom: re-running base-config can be a solution
[06:46] <thoreauputic> sudo base-config
[06:46] <jobezone> right, easier.
[06:46] <yahalom> thoreauputic, nothing to do with the fact that my country went into DST, which is at a different time every year?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> yahalom: well, if the DST isn't correctly set in the OS, that would be an issue obviously
[06:47] <jobezone> anyway, in case anyone does use gdesklets, and uses the rythmlet, which is a neat gdesklet which not only allows control over rythmbox, it also downloads album covers of the music being played...
[06:47] <thoreauputic> yahalom: you could just reset the time manually I guess
[06:47] <yahalom> thoreauputic, i'm in the jerusalem timezone which is +2. my DST changed to +3, so i should put Baghdad now?
[06:48] <jobezone> and it just doesn't do nothing, the bugger.
[06:48] <yahalom> thoreauputic, everytime i set the time manually at reboot it resynchronizes and then i loose an hour
[06:48] <thoreauputic> yahalom: I guess that' a work-around
[06:48] <thoreauputic> yahalom: or turn off ntpdate
[06:49] <jobezone> yahalom, or run base-config and choose Baghdad, then.
[06:49] <yahalom> thoreauputic, how do i turn it off
[06:49] <thoreauputic> yahalom: update-rc.d
[06:49] <yahalom> jobezone, yeah i guess
[06:50] <yahalom> sudo update-rc.d ?
[06:50] <Pete051> Hi people
[06:50] <ingo> whee.. Ubuntu sets up fast
[06:50] <thoreauputic> yahalom: sudo update-rc.d ntpdate remove
[06:50] <thoreauputic> I think
[06:50] <FR500> hello
[06:50] <thoreauputic> yahalom: check man update-rc.d
[06:50] <yahalom> thoreauputic, thanx jobezone thanx
[06:51] <jobezone> yahalom, in on computer I disabled ntpdate, by
[06:51] <Dreamer3> anyone here with Hoary, NFS, and Gnome?
[06:51] <pirate> Is hoary supportive of usb-cdrom drives?
[06:51] <FR500> after resuming from hibernation, dvd playback is screwed, anyone experienced that?
[06:51] <yahalom> jobezone, u disabled it?
[06:52] <Pete051> I've just got ubuntu 4.10 up and running but for some reason evolution refuses to talk to my pop server, any ideas anyone?
[06:52] <yahalom> thoreauputic, sudo update-rc.d ntpdate remove
[06:52] <yahalom> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[06:52] <Dreamer3> Pete051: does another client work?
[06:52] <yahalom> thoreauputic, should i force it?
[06:52] <zooko> My problem from earlier today with an IDE drive that wouldn't go into UDMA5 was because I was using a cdrom IDE cable for it.
[06:52] <FR500> Pete051, maybe server doesnt run on a standard port
[06:52] <Pete051> dunno I've not tried
[06:52] <jobezone> going into /etc/rcS.d/ and moving S51ntpdate out of that directory
[06:52] <thoreauputic> yahalom: if you want to be rid of it, yes
[06:52] <jobezone> yahalom : going into /etc/rcS.d/ and moving S51ntpdate out of that directory
[06:53] <FR500> Pete051, never worked or just stoped working
[06:53] <Pete051> maybe I should try mutt
[06:53] <thoreauputic> yahalom: you can put it back if you wish later
[06:53] <Pete051> never worked just times out
[06:53] <yahalom> is there any reason why removing it wouldnt be recommended?
[06:53] <Pete051> smtp works fine
[06:53] <libben> what line do i add to fstab to to be able to read my winxp part? i have it on /dev/hda1
[06:53] <jobezone> yahalom : if you ever want it to run at boot again, just move it back in. you'll have to use sudo, of course "sudo mv S51ntpdate ~" for example.
[06:54] <ingo> hmm...Ubuntu says my max screen resolution is 1024x768 but i used 1600x1200 in M$. How do i get Ubuntu to set it in larger resolution?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> yahalom: up to you - or just uninstall the ntpdate package
[06:54] <FR500> Pete maybe gmail?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get remove ntpdate
[06:55] <Pete051> yeh perhaps, I'll try that now
[06:55] <yahalom> ok thanx
[06:56] <Pete051> Hmm have to install it
[06:56] <thoreauputic> yahalom: you can always reinstall it if you have problems
[06:56] <jobezone> gone
[06:57] <phoenixp3k> Hi! Got a new question :p
[06:58] <phoenixp3k> How can I run a .exe file from DOS if Grub is loading...
[06:58] <Pete051> not listed on synaptic odd
[06:58] <jobezone> phoenixp3k: what do you mean?
[06:59] <FR500> after resuming from hibernation, dvd playback is screwed, anyone experienced that?
[06:59] <phoenixp3k> well, when I was on Windows only, I could boot and access my floppy drive
[06:59] <forcer> Hm. This is kinda annoying. It seems like X is freezing the system when starting up. :-(
[07:00] <phoenixp3k> type A: and access the files, can I do the same with grub command lines?
[07:00] <Dreamer3> forcer: how so?
[07:00] <jobezone> phoenixp3k,  I don't know if you can do that in grub, sorry. don't know much about it.
[07:01] <phoenixp3k> well. might there be some other way?
[07:01] <jobezone> phoenixp3k, you could acess the floppy inside linux, of course.
[07:01] <jobezone> phoenixp3k, or if you want to boot using a floppy disk,
[07:02] <jobezone> phoenixp3k, you have to configure your BIOS so the first device to be booted is the floppy.
[07:02] <phoenixp3k> jobezone, yes I did that, but it's not a bootable floppy
[07:02] <thoreauputic> phoenixp3k: umm.. you could do that because DOS was running - you can't do anything without an OS
[07:03] <thoreauputic> phoenixp3k: you need to boot linux to access any file system
[07:03] <phoenixp3k> So I have to install DOS ?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> phoenixp3k: of course not
[07:04] <jobezone> phoenixp3k, linux can read the floppy
[07:04] <thoreauputic> phoenixp3k: you just boot linux - if you want CLI only you reconfigure gdm not to start
[07:04] <phoenixp3k> thoreauputic, it's to update my motherboard firmware
[07:05] <ingo> can i alter my screen resolution in term?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> ingo,  care to clarify that question?
[07:06] <ingo> Ubuntu wont let me have a larger resolution than 1024x768
[07:06] <ingo> i prefer 1600x1200
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> larger in the X display? or the COnsole you mean?
[07:07] <jobezone> phoenixp3k: Isn't it done by first booting with a DOS bootdisk, then executing that EXE file you have?
[07:07] <ingo> i want the X display larger
[07:07] <ingo> i feel like i'm half blind when using 1024x768, just bring on the granny glasses
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> ingo,  what video card you useing? its possible either the card or the monitor settings in the x config file are not correct.
[07:08] <CarlK> phoenixp3k - what exe are you trying to run?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> My wife makes me set her display to 800x600 so she can see stuff better.
[07:08] <ingo> GF4200ti 128mb
[07:08] <ingo> 800x600? yikes..
[07:08] <phoenixp3k> jobezone, hmm this could work a Windows booting disk
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> she wants BIG BIG fonts all over. :P
[07:09] <phoenixp3k> CarlK, it's to update my mother board
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> fire up that X config tool. and check out the Monitor section perhaps is where to start..
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> well BACKUP your working X config first. :P
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> you useing the nvidia drivers for full 3d support also? they may help.
[07:09] <CarlK> phoenixp3k - got a win9x/me box around?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> well it may help to get the higher res's at least.
[07:10] <phoenixp3k> CarlK, I dualboot with XP
[07:10] <FR500> hello
[07:10] <phoenixp3k> CarlK, and have an old WinME floppy. I'll try it.
[07:10] <CarlK> phoenixp3k - don't think XP will make bootable floppies - very sure 2k doesn't
[07:11] <ingo> Dr_Willis,  where do i find the X config tool?
[07:11] <ingo> yes i'm a noob
[07:11] <phoenixp3k> but I should backup grub first
[07:11] <Tweek-linux> hello
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> ingo,  in the menus somewhere..  not sure excactly. :P
[07:11] <Tweek-linux> is there a known error with the rpm installer?
[07:11] <rolf__> hello
[07:11] <goldfish> hi guys, i have just upgraded to hoary from warty, I am just wondering, I have an XF86 config file in /etc/X11/ but no xorg.conf, i did a 'locate xorg.conf' and it's in /usr/share/xresprobe/ is this the way it should be?
[07:11] <CarlK> phoenixp3k - is "ME floppy" a bootable floppy that leaves you at an A:> prompt, or an isntall disk?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/   is also worth checking out ing.
[07:12] <ingo> k
[07:12] <ingo> thx
[07:12] <Tweek-linux> where it wont let you log into sudo?
[07:12] <Agrajag> rpm installer?
[07:13] <Tweek-linux> i dont know its actuall name :\
[07:13] <rolf__> Small question: how do add a language to my ubuntu system. I've installed english but als would like dutch for my girfriend. I can't seem to find how this is done.
[07:13] <Agrajag> Tweek-linux: ubuntu doesn't even use rpms
[07:13] <Tweek-linux> it should accept them?
[07:13] <Tweek-linux> correct
[07:13] <jobezone> ingo, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:13] <Agrajag> did you install alien, or something?
[07:14] <Tweek-linux> no
[07:14] <Agrajag> then what are you talking about?
[07:14] <Tweek-linux> i dont know, the only name it shows is %c
[07:14] <phoenixp3k> CarlK, if I recall it gives me an A: if I cancel something
[07:14] <Agrajag> the only name what shows?
[07:14] <jobezone> ingo, to reconfigure X
[07:14] <Tweek-linux> one sec
[07:15] <CarlK> phoenixp3k - as long as you don't start installing ME, no need to back up the HD
[07:15] <CarlK> in fact, you can unplug the HD for the bios update
[07:16] <phoenixp3k> CarlK, tru... well I'll try this. Thanks for the help everyone
[07:17] <ingo> jobezone, thank you!
[07:17] <jobezone> ingo, welcome:)
[07:17] <Tweek-linux> http://img75.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img75&image=screenshot9bx.png Agrajag this is what i get when i click the rpm
[07:17] <zooko> Hm.  It isn't easy to get reiser4 into my Ubuntu kernel, apparently...
[07:17] <zooko>
[07:18] <forcer> Dreamer3: Dunno what I should answer to that - it start up gdm, which freezes the system (i.e. not pingable anymore)
[07:18] <forcer> Happens with both the ati and the radeon driver, vga works, but that's not really useful
[07:18] <Agrajag> Tweek-linux: what program is that though?
[07:18] <Tweek-linux> no idea
[07:18] <Tweek-linux> it jsut starts
[07:18] <Agrajag> You must have installed it yourself, it looks like a KDE program
[07:18] <Tweek-linux> i did install
[07:18] <Tweek-linux> KDE
[07:19] <Agrajag> it's definitely not part of ubuntu-base
[07:19] <Agrajag> and in any case, without alien you won't be able to install anything from an rpm
[07:19] <Tweek-linux> :
[07:19] <Tweek-linux> :\
[07:19] <Agrajag> Why don't you just use apt?
[07:19] <libben> is it safe to write to NTFS partitions? thinking of enabling that to winxp partitions
[07:19] <Agrajag> crossfire-client in in the repositories
[07:19] <Mr-Petah> hi all
[07:19] <thoreauputic> libben: no
[07:20] <Agrajag> is in
[07:20] <bhna> libben: it not save
[07:20] <libben> ok
[07:20] <Agrajag> libben: sort of, if you use captive-ntfs
[07:20] <Dreamer3> anyone here with Hoary, NFS, and Gnome?
[07:20] <jobezone> libben, everywhere I read about it, it says not
[07:20] <Agrajag> I trust that about as far I can can throw its author
[07:20] <inva|id> where do I change the value of 'localhost.localdomain' ?
[07:20] <thoreauputic> captive is still experimental
[07:20] <JonnySlack> jonny in the house!!!!
[07:20] <jobezone> libben, VFAT though is completely safe
[07:21] <forcer> L
[07:21] <libben> vfat isnt that just plain fat? aka dos?
[07:21] <JonnySlack> no...
[07:21] <kain> no, it is fat32
[07:21] <JonnySlack> vfat is fat32...
[07:21] <JonnySlack> kain, beat me to it
[07:21] <Dreamer3> anyone here with Hoary, NFS, and Gnome?
[07:21] <Dreamer3> sheesh, is it so hard to find someone using NFS?
[07:22] <fissy> inva|id, /etc/hostname i think
[07:22] <housetier> 2 of 3 match here Dreamer3
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Dreamer3: I use NFS, but I use Warty
[07:22] <housetier> Dreamer3 I use nfs day in day out
[07:22] <Dreamer3> housetier: i need someone to confirm a bug in hoary for me
[07:22] <housetier> no hoary here
[07:22] <housetier> :x
[07:22] <zooko> Well, I guess I can stand to stick with reiser3 one more time.
[07:22] <zooko> Next time, probably, reiser4.
[07:23] <jobezone> libben: yes, it's fat32
[07:23] <inva|id> fissy, thankyou
[07:23] <Dreamer3> thoreauputic: can you rename a file on NFS from nautilus in list view mode?
[07:23] <BuffaloSoldier> anyone having problem connecting to the repositories tonight/today?
[07:23] <Dreamer3> thoreauputic: on my hoary system it goes to "rename mode" for like 1 second, then reverts back without giving me a change to type in anything
[07:23] <zooko> ... or I could switch to Lindows.  ;-)
[07:24] <Dreamer3> thoreauputic: works fine in icon mode
[07:24] <thoreauputic> Dreamer3: I don't know - i use rox filer
[07:24] <Dreamer3> thoreauputic: do you have nautlius installed to test?
[07:24] <thoreauputic> yes, but I'm not on my network at the moment, sorry
[07:24] <goldfish> hi guys, I am running hoary, upgraded from warty but i have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, anyone know why this is?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> goldfish: what does  X -version say ? are you using xorg ?
[07:25] <libben> if i mount ntfs part... ive done it before in /mnt... but now i read on ubuntuguide they place it in /media is there any bennefit from this or just personal taste?
[07:26] <jobezone> goldfish, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" . If everything's ok, this will configure your x.org server
[07:26] <thoreauputic> libben: you can mount it anywhere you like
[07:26] <roo_> libben, /media follows linux filesystem standards. not following it kills kittens :p
[07:26] <bhna> libben: distribution taste
[07:26] <thoreauputic> libben: /media is the new orthodoxy ;)
[07:26] <goldfish> thoreauputic: damn, it says I'm still using XFree86
[07:26] <libben> ill go along with media then
[07:27] <roo_> libben, http://www.linuxbase.org/  for more info
[07:27] <thoreauputic> goldfish: I'm betting you did an upgrade and not "dist-upgrade"
[07:27] <goldfish> thoreauputic: nope i did dist-upgrade
[07:27] <thoreauputic> hmmm
[07:27] <Detten> my nic seems to disconnect after approx 1h. Anybody heared of such behaviour? (forcedeth)
[07:28] <jobezone> goldfish, I would remove xserver-xfree86, install xserver-xorg, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:28] <thoreauputic> goldfish: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg , then
[07:28] <goldfish> ok
[07:28] <goldfish> thanks guys
[07:28] <thoreauputic> jobezone: I don't think removing xfree is necessary
[07:29] <thoreauputic> jobezone: apt should take care of it ?
[07:29] <jobezone> thoreauputic, probably it automaticaly uninstalls it
[07:29] <thoreauputic> exactly
[07:30] <libben> wtf is hdb2 doing there? http://www.pastebin.com/267024
[07:30] <libben> anyone ?
[07:30] <kbrooks> ho
[07:31] <Detten> there a pkg for nvnet on ubuntu?
[07:31] <kbrooks> Detten, use synaptic
[07:31] <CarlK> libben - whats the proble,?
[07:31] <Detten> can't find any
[07:31] <libben> I dont understand what the ||| /dev/hdb2             830        1853     8225280    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)  is
[07:32] <libben> cause i have two disks.... where ive made winxp and linux on... and what tha hell is that part doing?
[07:32] <kbrooks> libben, xp is fat32........or wait
[07:32] <kbrooks> is hdb linux?
[07:32] <Detten> libben its normal
[07:32] <thoreauputic> libben: it's just an extended partition
[07:33] <Detten> its the extended partion
[07:33] <schasi> large block adressing
[07:33] <thoreauputic> libben: relax, all is well ;-)
[07:33] <kbrooks> Detten, don't guess
[07:33] <libben> as u see i have / on hdb3 and swap one gb... then 2 ntfs parts... then that..
[07:33] <schasi> chill
[07:33] <libben> i havent made that
[07:33] <kbrooks> :O
[07:33] <libben> so what is it
[07:33] <kbrooks> libben, what is what
[07:33] <libben> and its like what, 8 gb..
[07:33] <forcer> Not even the official ati driver works: Freezes the system just as well
[07:33] <Detten> kbrooks, guess about what?
[07:34] <kbrooks> Detten, never mind
[07:34] <Detten> :p
[07:34] <thoreauputic> libben: extended partitions are sort of "virtual', and contain other partitions
[07:34] <libben> all others parts have ID numbers.. but that one has a letter
[07:34] <libben> hmm..
[07:34] <libben> im confused..
[07:35] <libben> u see my hdb3 ? its 24 gb..
[07:35] <Detten> its because you made first partition in windows
[07:35] <kbrooks> wait
[07:35] <Detten> and windows only supports 1 primary partition
[07:35] <JonnySlack> Detten, no windows supports more then one..
[07:35] <libben> and im down to 19,7 gb right now.. and ive only made clean install with ubuntu on hdb3... and updated all updates to this day
[07:35] <kbrooks> Detten, er. fix yourself up and READ
[07:35] <JonnySlack> Detten, it can do 4 just like the drive can.
[07:36] <Detten> ah sorry bout that
[07:36] <Detten> didn't know :/
[07:36] <libben> so im wondering where has my 4 gb gone? cause i havent downloaded 4 gbs updates
[07:36] <kbrooks> Detten: Installation, yes
[07:36] <kbrooks> it can be only installed in a primary partition
[07:36] <kbrooks> but you can trick it
[07:37] <kbrooks> but why do it!
[07:37] <Jlow> hello
[07:37] <JonnySlack> hehe my boss just walked in the lunch room... he never talks to me.
[07:37] <kbrooks> why?
[07:38] <krawek> hi
[07:39] <Pete051> OK solved the problem with the mail turn out my provider uses @fs on the end of usernames but not on email account thanks anyway
[07:39] <krawek> I get this error: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion', what's wrong?
[07:40] <Jlow> Is installing Ubuntu next to existing Windows XP on SATA-Raid-0 an easy task? (is it possible at all?)
[07:40] <JonnySlack> anyone here good at setting up an email server ?
[07:40] <theine> krawek: when do you get this error?
[07:40] <JonnySlack> I just have a few questions... in general.
[07:41] <JonnySlack> and aside from that... how would one turn on spell checking in xchat?
[07:41] <Jlow> JonnySlack i dont use own email server because many many email providers like aol, gmx etc, block those private senders
[07:41] <JonnySlack> is that doable?
[07:42] <libben> so what is that hdb2 then ? cause i have hda1 (winxp C:) hdb1 (winxp D:) hdb2 ( Who fucking made this? not me during install) hdb3 (ext3 / , and ive made net install on it and now im down to 19,7 gb, where is my 24 gb?)    hdb5 (winxp E:) hdb6 my swap space.... so what is hdb2 doing there?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> JonnySlack: spell check in an IRC client? Are you serious ?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> JonnySlack: I nevver wurry abut speling pusonally
[07:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:43] <housetier> JonnySlack you might need a script to do that
[07:43] <JonnySlack> thoreauputic, well some people are a bit self contious about such things.
[07:43] <JonnySlack> hehe
[07:43] <CarlK> Trilian v2 had a spell check plugin
[07:43] <JonnySlack> had?
[07:43] <JonnySlack> they axed it?
[07:44] <JonnySlack> Gaim has spellcheck... but I'm using xchat now.
[07:44] <CarlK> well, I upgraded to V3, havn't tried to figure out if I can use it
[07:44] <forcer> Ok, vesa driver works. But... this is freaky.
[07:44] <inva|id> does anyone know where I might be able to find a ubuntu button? as in an image for a website
[07:44] <CarlK> but it does prove that there is a spell check for an IRC client
[07:44] <JonnySlack> CarlK, yah, well gaim supports IRC and has spellcheck if you have the right libs installed.
[07:44] <thoreauputic> hmm... yes gaim ahs spell check, true enough...
[07:45] <libben> thoreauputic, is my hdb2 virtual sorta thing ? cause its wird it exists there
[07:45] <thoreauputic> I want typo-caheck *grin*
[07:45] <ubuntoid> inva|id:  on the wiki
[07:45] <inva|id> ubuntoid, thanks, I'll look there
[07:45] <JonnySlack> libben, just #ls -l /dev/hdb2
[07:45] <CarlK> I nead synonym check
[07:45] <thoreauputic> libben: don't stress - my dual-boot has something similar
[07:45] <JonnySlack> it will tell you if it is a link or not... and if it is, where it points to.
[07:46] <CarlK> or is the need, or @#$  kneed
[07:46] <oXeN> is there a deb for ubuntu for opera?
[07:46] <oXeN> on Hoary
[07:46] <JonnySlack> libben, remember, ubuntu will add drives and partitions without your input.
[07:46] <JonnySlack> libben, automagiclly...
[07:46] <forcer> From the menu, using computer/system configuration/device manager brings up a window which vanishes at once again. How do I access that?
[07:47] <libben> that is 8 gb ?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> oXeN: if you want opera, just use the static version they provide on the download page
[07:47] <krawek> theine when I compiling opengl apps
[07:47] <JonnySlack> libben, I donno... is it?
[07:48] <JonnySlack> Anyone here from Toronto and go to the TLUG?
[07:49] <libben> isnt that what the numbers are saying on the block thing ? cause on my hdb3 that is 24 gb, it starts with 24xxxxxx and same on the others part... so ill take it that hdb2 that i dont know shit about is 8 gb =)
[07:49] <keats_> hi guys. just installed hoary and it keeps crashing 10 seconds after login and entering in gdm
[07:49] <keats_> used the recovery console and after some commands ...
[07:49] <libben> its like this... ive created 4 parts on hdb!... and now all suddenly there is a w95 part there and looks like 8 gb big
[07:49] <libben> can it be because i just installed wine?
[07:49] <keats_> i get something about kernel panic
[07:49] <JonnySlack> libben, no...
[07:50] <JonnySlack> libben, I think you need to #man cfdisk
[07:50] <oklinux> ubutu is rated # 1
[07:50] <keats_> anyone got the same problem ?
[07:50] <forcer> Ah, the hal-device-manager does not work because of "dbus_bindings.DBusException: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory."
[07:50] <forcer> What do I do to get it working despite of that?
[07:51] <dazed|> can anyone help me set up a dialup connection...i went to network settings and added the account but i cant autodetect my modem
[07:51] <dazed|> anyone here?
[07:51] <okercho> Hi!
[07:51] <JonnySlack> hehe... my laptop is a bit lopsided... but when it heats up, it sits right flush.
[07:52] <keats_> hmm anyone having the same problem with the dafault kernel ?
[07:52] <forcer> Ah, the dbus-l init script wasn't running
[07:52] <JonnySlack> keats_, may not be a kernel  issue.
[07:52] <forcer> Why on earth wouldn't that be started?
[07:52] <okercho> I have a problem with the character codification. Why I see this? Ampliacin
[07:52] <keats_> JonnySlack: i said that because after some commands given i got a kernel panic
[07:52] <keats_> JonnySlack: the system was just installed
[07:53] <paul_> how do i update it
[07:53] <JonnySlack> keats_, did you md5 sum your cd images?
[07:53] <JonnySlack> keats_, then check the burned disks for errors?
[07:53] <keats_> JonnySlack: i got them from an official mirro
[07:53] <keats_> i got no installation errors
[07:53] <JonnySlack> keats_, which does not rule out buggy downloads
[07:53] <streetbmx> hello
[07:54] <JonnySlack> streetbmx, hi...
[07:54] <zenrox> and welcome
[07:54] <keats_> JonnySlack: are you sure it could be an fake iso ?
[07:54] <streetbmx> thanks
[07:54] <paul_> JonnySlack,  how do i update ubuntu?
[07:54] <keats_> paul_: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:54] <paul_> ohhhh
[07:55] <Agrajag> wait what
[07:55] <CarlK> md5sum: c868ccfe958f85f3ef96c06f45707ad6  hoary-install-i386.iso
[07:55] <Agrajag> not if you're going from hoary to warty
[07:55] <zenrox> paul_,  use update manger
[07:55] <Agrajag> dist-upgrade then
[07:55] <keats_> Agrajag: that's dist upgrading
[07:55] <Agrajag> er
[07:55] <keats_> not updating
[07:55] <Agrajag> warty to hoary
[07:55] <dazed|> can someone help me with installing windows modem drivers ???
[07:56] <okercho> I have a problem with the character codification. Why I see this? "Ampliacin"--A folder/file name
[07:56] <paul_> also what is the defalt root password
[07:56] <Agrajag> there isn't one
[07:56] <keats_> dazed|: what does this have to do with ubuntu ?
[07:56] <okercho> ubuntu dont have root user by default
[07:56] <thoreauputic> dazed|: umm - you mean linux drivers for a winmodem?
[07:56] <streetbmx> hey, i did a server install from the hoary preview cd. and bittorrent isnt working. does hoary close some ports that i should know about? this has worked before under warty
[07:56] <keats_> paul_: sudo passwd
[07:56] <Agrajag> no, DON'T sudo passwd
[07:56] <keats_> Agrajag: why not ?
[07:56] <dazed|> thoreauputic: yes
[07:56] <dazed|> lol
[07:56] <Agrajag> unless you have a real reason to have a root password
[07:56] <paul_> to update
[07:57] <paul_> paul@ubuntu:~ $ sudo passwrd
[07:57] <paul_> Password:
[07:57] <paul_> sudo: passwrd: command not found
[07:57] <Agrajag> paul_: sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <okercho> with your user and sudo, you can use all like root
[07:57] <okercho> pa
[07:57] <keats_> paul_: sudo in front of the commands i gave you
[07:57] <okercho> paul_
[07:57] <Agrajag> good, you misspelled it anyway
[07:57] <keats_> Agrajag: it's safe enought to have a root password ...
[07:58] <paul_> paul@ubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-get update
[07:58] <paul_> Reading Package Lists... Done
[07:58] <paul_> that is all
[07:58] <thoreauputic> dazed|: there are quite a few of them. I used to have a lucent modem working here, but I dumped it for a real hardware modem
[07:58] <keats_> paul_: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:58] <Agrajag> ok, now sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:58] <JonnySlack> err well I gotta go... lunch over.
[07:58] <keats_> after updating
[07:58] <JonnySlack> lates all
[07:58] <keats_> bye
[07:58] <paul_> paul@ubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:58] <paul_> Reading Package Lists... Done
[07:58] <paul_> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[07:58] <paul_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:58] <JonnySlack> oh and in answer to all the questions currently being asked... RTFM.
[07:59] <JonnySlack> :)
[07:59] <okercho> You are updated paul_
[07:59] <paul_> no
[07:59] <keats_> paul_: did you configure apt to use a ftp or http repository ?
[07:59] <paul_> i have warty and never told it when it was installing to fetch updates
[07:59] <paul_> no
[07:59] <yogui> how to attribute a name to an adress ip ?
[07:59] <keats_> paul_: rtfm then
[07:59] <keats_> yogui: /etc/hosts
[07:59] <forcer> I'd be happy if someone could point me to TFM that I could R....
[08:00] <thoreauputic> yogui: man hosts
[08:00] <keats_> forcer: ubuntulinux.org :)
[08:00] <forcer> keats_: I wasn't able to find anything about mysterious Radeon crashes there. Have been looking for a bit, too. :-/
[08:01] <yogui> thoreauputic : thank you
[08:01] <keats_> forcer: what do you say about my system crashing 10 sec after i login ?
[08:01] <keats_> and gettin a kernel panic error ?
[08:01] <dazed|> do i use ndiswrapper to install winmodem drivers?
[08:01] <forcer> keats_: "Hey, sounds similar to mine, let's create a support group"
[08:01] <forcer> :-(
[08:01] <thoreauputic> dazed|: no
[08:01] <keats_> :)
[08:02] <streetbmx> forcer: have you checked the ati radeon bugzilla
[08:02] <streetbmx> its unofficial but still some helpfull stuff
[08:02] <thoreauputic> dazed|: linmodems.org
[08:02] <dazed|> im so confused...i know what drivers i need i know what chipset i have ...i know all that crap and all the sites skip over the part about what i do with the damn drivers
[08:02] <dazed|> thoreauputic: im there i have been there for 2 days
[08:02] <Krys^> :) Hello Everyone
[08:03] <forcer> streetbmx: Nope - what's the URL?
[08:03] <streetbmx> http://ati.cchtml.com/
[08:03] <streetbmx> xorg crashes with signal 11 just at start
[08:03] <streetbmx> ?
[08:04] <forcer> Nope.  Anyone can help?
[08:06] <streetbmx> keats_: actually im only running a base ubuntu server right now. no xorg or radeon to deal with
[08:07] <keats_> streetbmx: i'm on a linux box now searching for answers to fix the darn thing :)
[08:07] <dazed|> anyone know the difference between an  HCF and HSF modem? (ontrollerless and softmodems)
[08:07] <neighborlee> dont env variables set in /etc/profile work system wide ??
[08:08] <InitMass> i noticed that "the" release has been delayed
[08:08] <neighborlee> or am I supposed to use bash_profile
[08:08] <streetbmx> im trying to solve my bittorrent woes, keeps just saying torrent died.
[08:09] <paul_> goatse is down
[08:09] <neighborlee> InitMass, yeah I feel its still way too 'fresh' as I'm seeing crashes in programs that just dont crash much..that PLUs when it crashed my gnome-panel and entire desktop went down with it and eventually ( it was a gradual but firm crash LOL ) I had to hard reset machine..warty never did that I dont think..
[08:09] <streetbmx> thanks for that critcal information
[08:09] <paul_> i know
[08:09] <paul_> so sad
[08:09] <keats_> streetbmx: so where's the ubuntu issue ? :)
[08:10] <streetbmx> keats_: well its on an ubuntu server. and i just wanted to find out if hoary has some ports blocked by default or something
[08:10] <goldfish> Anyone know how to specify programs to run on startup using xfce ?
[08:10] <streetbmx> keats_: i had it working on warty a while ago
[08:10] <InitMass> neighborlee, scary!
[08:10] <kbrooks> streetbmx, no. it's your isp
[08:10] <keats_> streetbmx: i don't think it has a firewall activated by default
[08:11] <keats_> so i think it's not the machine
[08:11] <streetbmx> kbrooks: well thats odd, cause the same torrents work on my windows box
[08:11] <streetbmx> on the same network
[08:11] <ob1kenobi> I can't record anything with my microphone in hoary. Anyone can help?
[08:11] <kbrooks> streetbmx, well, please explain your problem again, for me
[08:12] <InitMass> neighborlee, i will install it the 8th
[08:12] <neighborlee> InitMass, heh yeah my feelings...but with RC it seems alot less frequent anyway...before that I was getting nightly crashes
[08:12] <InitMass> neighborlee, so now you think it good?
[08:12] <streetbmx> kbrooks, when I try to run a torrent. its automatically saying torrent died. almost like its not even trying to connect
[08:12] <neighborlee> InitMass, oh ic..by  the way   talk was that it had been set back even further..so the 8th is the release date stilll then ?
[08:12] <kbrooks> streetbmx, use bittorrent, please.
[08:12] <neighborlee> InitMass, no I dont trust it yet
[08:13] <streetbmx> kbrooks, i am using bittorrent
[08:13] <neighborlee> InitMass, as I say the desktop is still not sound..im seeing crashing not in warty
[08:13] <kbrooks> streetbmx, well, use bittornado instead
[08:13] <kbrooks> neighborlee, file a bug
[08:13] <streetbmx> i'll give it a try
[08:13] <neighborlee> InitMass, or i'm getting HW failure I dont know about..not really sure cause I RARELY these days in windows XP ..hahahah
[08:13] <samo> Hi! I need som help with screen resolution on a Dell D610 (1400x1050), clean new Hoary install, I only get 1280x1024?
[08:14] <neighborlee> kbrooks, well before doing it I wanted to make sure I wasn't the ONLY one seeing it...and I posted on forum and got no reply so I thought I might be...
[08:14] <neighborlee> kbrooks, are you seeing this type of behavior at all ?
[08:14] <InitMass> neighborlee, i can't sit on my hands any longer than to the 8th i guess
[08:15] <neighborlee> InitMass, but as I say it seems much better than before the RC
[08:15] <kbrooks> neighborlee, you are NOT the only one
[08:15] <neighborlee> kbrooks, well I feel somewhat better anyway <G>
[08:15] <kbrooks> neighborlee, ask ##linux or #gnome
[08:15] <neighborlee> misery  loves company
[08:15] <neighborlee> LOL
[08:15] <neighborlee> hmm I need to hang out in #gnome then ;-00
[08:16] <neighborlee> thx good idea
[08:16] <keats_> okay, so nobody else got a kernel panic after a fresh install of hoary ?
[08:18] <blueyed> isn't it possible to have multiple users access /dev/dsp ?
[08:19] <keats_> blueyed: what does ls -lah /dev/dsp say ?
[08:19] <blueyed> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-04-04 19:05 /dev/ds
[08:19] <blueyed> p
[08:20] <keats_> blueyed: i thing there is a group called audio in /etc/group
[08:20] <keats_> so you can add users there
[08:20] <blueyed> I've done this.. does the user have to log in again after I did this?
[08:20] <keats_> the users you want to have acces to /dev/dsp
[08:20] <keats_> *think
[08:21] <keats_> blueyed: i think so
[08:22] <neighborlee> guys isn't /etc/profile the right place to export env. variables ?..just wondering cause it isn't working right :: ( export DELTA_ROOT=/home/neighborlee/Programming/delta3d ) << I had to issue that manually just now when compiling instead or the system finding it in /etc/profile ????
[08:23] <blueyed> keats_: it does not work. In fact the user was already in this group.
[08:23] <keats_> blueyed: have no idea then :P
[08:23] <blueyed> thx
[08:23] <blueyed> does it work with you, keats_?
[08:24] <keats_> blueyed: after i fix kernel panic - not synsing i promise i will try :)
[08:26] <Xeon3D> shit... my nics are dying...
[08:27] <Xeon3D> after a while... my network connection drops..and I can only get a connection to the router with a reboot...
[08:28] <quiet> Xeon3D, maybe the cable is going bad??  or the router is overheating??  (is it a liksys/d-link home-router?)
[08:28] <quiet> linksys*
[08:29] -moin:#ubuntu- Wollt ihr mal was neuse? Etwas besseres? dann kommt in denn neuen IRC Server!
[08:29] -moin:#ubuntu- Fr users mit mIRC: /server -m abc-chat.ch:6670
[08:29] -moin:#ubuntu- Fr users ohne mIRC: www.dbi.ch/abc
[08:29] <quiet> ENGLISH!!
[08:30] <Xeon3D> quiet.. nope it's an SMC one.. but I think it may be because I'm overclocking...
[08:30] <Xeon3D> when I said reboot, it was a computer reboot...
[08:30] <quiet> overclocking the router??  you mean the PC right?
[08:30] <quiet> I know it was computer reboot..
[08:30] -moin:#ubuntu- Wollt ihr mal was neuse? Etwas besseres? dann kommt in denn neuen IRC Server!
[08:30] -moin:#ubuntu- Fr users mit mIRC: /server -m abc-chat.ch:6670
[08:30] -moin:#ubuntu- Fr users ohne mIRC: www.dbi.ch/abc
[08:30] <quiet> but overheating routers frequently drop connections
[08:30] <Xeon3D> quiet overclocking the computer .. yes
[08:31] <quiet> Xeon3D, honestly..  shutdown the router and stuff for about an hour..  turn it all back on and see how it goes...
[08:31] <quiet> it's a frequent issue with soho equipment..   though it's not necessarily yours..  just a good troubleshooting technique :)
[08:32] <Xeon3D>  erm.. but I'm almost sure that it's an hardware issue
[08:33] <Xeon3D> as only one of the computers does that.  (the oc'ed one). This one where i'm typing from is ok.
[08:33] <quiet> Xeon3D, that's fine.. I was just suggesting before you replace the NICs.. :)
[08:33] <quiet> okay
[08:33] <Xeon3D> Its dificult for me to replace the nicks as they are integrated :P
[08:33] <quiet> ahh...
[08:33] <quiet> what board?
[08:34] <Xeon3D> DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra 400 Rev.B
[08:34] <quiet> ahh..  rockin'  colors?
[08:35] <ob1kenobi> what daos mean "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA'??
[08:35] <Xeon3D> rockin' colors? it's green... UV Green.
[08:36] <quiet> awesome
[08:38] <dazed|> anyone know the answer to this question 'Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel? [usr/src/linux] '
[08:38] <dazed|> anyone ?
[08:39] <Florob> right ask a question and run away argh
[08:39] <kbrooks> :|
[08:40] <kbrooks> Florob, i have THAT problem too
[08:40] <Ingo^> how do i make a back up before making some changes to the system?
[08:41] <CarlK> heh - how come each time I power cycle a box the amount of memory changes?
[08:42] <Florob> Ingo^: that depends. Do you want a image of the hole partition or just a backup of some files?
[08:42] <CarlK> it has 1 64 and 2 32 meg sticks in it - it is a crap shot if it is going to come up with 128, 64 or 32
[08:42] <eSPete> what file do i add alias to?
[08:42] <Ingo^> just the necessary really
[08:43] <CarlK> memtest86+ never finds any errors
[08:43] <laxdragon> here is a crazy: how come SuSE 9.3 supports the Radeon Mobility 9000 M6 LY in their version of the fglrx driver and ubuntu does not? What is the difference between the two drivers?
[08:43] <Ingo^> i need to install vid drivers. Last time i did that the whole screen went nutty
[08:44] <Draucon> when is the final release for hoary?? wednesday??
[08:44] <sig> laxdragon: xorg
[08:44] <neighborlee> Draucon, 8th
[08:44] <yfir> Draucon: April 8th is the latest word on that
[08:44] <Ingo^> and i'm still without sound
[08:44] <laxdragon> sig: Ubunto has xorg, sooo huh?
[08:44] <Draucon> ok thank you
[08:44] <sig> laxdragon: look at the versions
[08:45] <sig> also suse writes own drivers etc that sometimes other os's don't have
[08:45] <sig> it may be developmental and they have added it to where ubuntu didn't add it
[08:45] <laxdragon> that kinda bites, so what next, just wait for ati's next release then wait for the ubuntu package to get updated?
[08:46] <sig> possibly, or go to xorg and get the source and install it yourself
[08:46] <Florob> Ingo^: well it's not that likely that your system will get hurt so you either don't backup at all or just the things that are valuable for you (importent documents...). I think it would be pretty pointless to make a backup of systemfiles for that because than you would really have to backup the whole parition and that takes up lots of space. The badest thing that can happen is that you will have to install from scratch.
[08:46] <claudemir> hi,all
[08:47] <Ingo^> Florob, true
[08:47] <Ingo^> nothing important on this partition so a backup is pointless when i think about it ;)
[08:47] <claudemir> i have a application in delphi
[08:48] <eken> Do anyone know which repository I need to get Wine on an amd64
[08:48] <Ingo^> i pretty sure Ubuntu didn't set up my vid drivers when installing
[08:48] <EvilIdler> eken: Noi such thing. Try a 32-bit version.
[08:48] <eSPete> what config file do i add alias to, so they are allso there the next time i start my computer?
[08:49] <Ingo^> how do i set up my drivers?
[08:49] <Ingo^> and sound
[08:49] <claudemir> and would like to make to function in ubuntu. exists some way to make to function?
[08:49] <eken> EvilIdler: hmm.. how sad..  I use a 64bit version of ubuntu.
[08:49] <laxdragon> sig: ok, thats it. SuSE ships with 8.10.19 while Ubuntu has 8.8.25. So once the fglrx package is updated to at least 8.10.19 it should work for me.
[08:50] <eken> EvilIdler: I'll have to wait until it comes then
[08:50] <EvilIdler> eken: So do I. Getting Wine to work on 64-bit is a serious hack; 32-bit emulation might work for you.
[08:50] <EvilIdler> eken: Don't hold your breath.
[08:50] <gilles> Sound Juicer can extract in MP3 ?
[08:51] <gilles> i mean, rip a cd
[08:51] <seb128> sure
[08:51] <gilles> i don't have the choice ?
[08:51] <gilles> it's not in my preferences
[08:51] <seb128> you can encode to ogg, flac too
[08:52] <seb128> you need gstreamer0.8-lame which is non-free
[08:52] <seb128> mp3 encoding has patents issues
[08:52] <Florob> Ingo^: maybe http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto helps you? Actually graphics should have  been set up when you installed ubuntu. I have no sugestion for sound though I'm still stuck with that, too, but I can hear something just volume controll doesn't work.
[08:53] <Ingo^> thanks, i'll check it out
[08:53] <blahrus> Florob: are you amd64?
[08:53] <Florob> blahrus: no, why?
[08:54] <seb128> gilles: you can find that on the wiki IIRC
[08:54] <blahrus> Florob: having a sounds issue with the latest RC in amd64
[08:55] <Florob> blahrus: well, as I said, as soon as it comes to sound/alsa/oss I'm screwed myself :)
[08:55] <Kikyo1> Hi, when I burn normal CDs in works in Ubuntu (it's a DVD+RW burner) but, DVDs won't work.. they won't even open in file browser or appear or dekstop; any clues? :)
[08:55] <blahrus> Florob: so am I :(
[08:56] <Florob> Kikyo1: how do you try to burn, generally you have to use different (console) tools for CD and DVD.
[08:57] <neighborlee> why doesn't /etc/profile take my export variables ?
[08:57] <nachtwind> hi
[08:58] <nachtwind> is there someone in here who mind telling me how to install apache(1/2) and PHP toi make them work as they should?
[08:58] <nachtwind> right now i cant interpred PHP files :/
[08:59] <Daehlie> http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorial/How-To-Install-Apache-PHP-MySQL/1059
[09:01] <nachtwind> thank you
[09:01] <nachtwind> i will try that
[09:01] <nachtwind> i thought there was some apt-get package arround there
[09:01] <huhe> how do you log channel chats ?
[09:02] <huhe> in xchat
[09:02] <slask3n> are there any apps for musicmaking in ubuntu or on linux generally?
[09:02] <Xappe> huhe: check the settings
[09:03] <huhe> i have both checked have forawhile but can't find my logs
[09:03] <Ex-Cyber> huhe: Settings -> Preferences, under the "Chat" there should be a "Logging" panel
[09:03] <Ex-Cyber> ah
[09:03] <stack> hi. what are the differences between Ubuntu and redhat ?
[09:03] <mjr> slask3n, yes; rosegarden would be the first that comes to mind
[09:03] <Xappe> huhe: they should be in .xchat/ I guess
[09:03] <Ex-Cyber> look in ~/.xchat2/
[09:03] <mjr> slask3n, you may find more references at http://www.agnula.org/
[09:04] <Kikyo1> Hi, when I burn normal CDs in works in Ubuntu (it's a DVD+RW burner) but, DVDs won't work.. they won't even open in file browser or appear or desktop; any clues?
[09:04] <Florob> *cough* (20:56:04) Florob: Kikyo1: how do you try to burn, generally you have to use different (console) tools for CD and DVD.
[09:04] <topyli> slask3n: there are different apps for small tasks. ardour for recording/mixer, beast for synth, hyrdrogen for drums, terminatorx for deejay scratching...
[09:05] <topyli> slask3n: i haven't found a basic fruity loopy fun thing yet
[09:05] <Kikyo1> Florob: Ahh.. sorry, didn't see that.. Oh, well when I burn with CDs it works by right-clicking an ISO file and choose "Burn to CD"
[09:06] <Kikyo1> But, it won't even notice a DVD is in the drive
[09:06] <phaedo> Hey there, I'm coming from a redhat/mandrake background, and would like a pointer to some documentation on the network script system in debian/ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[09:06] <Xappe> slask3n: for basic recording you can use audacity
[09:06] <Kikyo1> Florob: If I insert a CD a new file browser window opens in the blank CD (/media/cdrom1/) but not DVDs..
[09:07] <blueyed> might anyone want to try if they can play sound from two different users logged into gnome?
[09:08] <caffinated> blueyed: should work, provided your sound hardware supports hardware mixing.
[09:08] <caffinated> most soundblaster cards are ok
[09:10] <blueyed> caffinated, it's a onboard chip (nforce4).. should I put my SB back in?
[09:10] <Florob> Kikyo1: yes that is possible because DVDs are probably not supported by automount or whatever handles this yet. there are some console progs you can try. I don't know what is included with Ubuntu I belive I saw a package for the dvd+/-rw tools being installed you may try to google for that.
[09:10] <caffinated> blueyed: not sure about the nforce stuff.  I know I had some problems with my USB audio adapter, but my oldish sb live value worked well.
[09:10] <neighborlee> if /etc/profile isn't the right place to put env var's for global use then where does it go...: .bash_profile ?
[09:11] <blueyed> caffinated, how can I check if it's supported? it there some info file somewhere to cat?
[09:11] <breogan> hola!
[09:12] <caffinated> blueyed: well, if it's making sound, it's supported.
[09:12] <caffinated> but that doesn't mean it'll do hardware mixing
[09:12] <blueyed> thx, I'll google some.
[09:13] <caffinated> blueyed: you might try the nforce driver set from nvidia - it might give you a greater degree of compatibility
[09:13] <venkman> i tried putting a module in the blacklist in the /etc/hotplug directory, but it didn't stop themodule from loading
[09:14] <blueyed> caffinated, thought esd was meant to do mixing software-wise..
[09:15] <caffinated> blueyed: well, yes and no.  it's part of it - some programs want direct access to the hardware though.
[09:15] <blueyed> but I tried Rhythmbox on the other account..
[09:15] <neighborlee> rhythbox sucks eggs
[09:15] <neighborlee> out of the box it wont play my oggs
[09:15] <neighborlee> that OR its a RC issue
[09:15] <blueyed> I know, but it work best.
[09:16] <neighborlee> either way it bites
[09:16] <blueyed> sound-wise
[09:16] <neighborlee> blueyed, nope disagree..I tried to play a 'ogg' and I got squat
[09:16] <neighborlee> unless is a bad ogg..I dont think so..hmm I'd better 'verify that'
[09:16] <caffinated> blueyed: well, I'd consider looking at the linux nforce drivers
[09:16] <caffinated> they're available from nvidia, and they may be never than what ships with ubuntu
[09:17] <keffo> anyone tried football manager with wine / cedega?
[09:17] <blueyed> "/dev/dsp is also in use by another program".. :/
[09:17] <blueyed> will try nvidia
[09:18] <Kikyo1> Florob: Ah, thanks! :)
[09:19] <Drews_Blunted> hey
[09:19] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, h.e.y.
[09:19] <kbrooks> heh.
[09:19] <venkman> how can i turn off the vesafb that initrd loads on boot?
[09:20] <Drews_Blunted> hey, kbrooks, im trying to get ssh to work and im doing ssh -l root 23.432.54.2 and its not working
[09:20] <Drews_Blunted> is that the right way to use ssh?
[09:21] <bhna> venkman: give the kernel an vga=normal
[09:21] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, .
[09:21] <quiet> hey i'm installing on my notebook and just got a string of "serial8250: too much work for irq10" while instaling all the online software..    doesn't seem to have had a negative effect because it has now continued.. but any ideas?
[09:21] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, .. urm
[09:21] <Drews_Blunted> yes
[09:21] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, man ssh
[09:21] <oklinux> will wireless usb card work in ubuntu ?
[09:21] <kbrooks> look at the first section
[09:22] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, h/o lemme show ya
[09:22] <Drews_Blunted> k
[09:22] <venkman> bhna, i looked in /etc/mkinitrd, and it doesn't have anything in modules, however, it does have probe on
[09:22] <kbrooks>      ssh connects and logs into the specified hostname (with optional user name).  The user must prove his/her identity
[09:22] <kbrooks>      to the remote machine using one of several methods depending on the protocol version used.
[09:22] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, ssh hostname
[09:22] <kbrooks> or
[09:23] <neighborlee> keffo, nope I only use native linux games although I feel fer ya
[09:23] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, ssh user@hostame
[09:23] <nullset> hmm... i did apt-get install ubuntu-calendar but I do not see the wallpapers it installed when I right click -> change background.  Any ideas?
[09:23] <neighborlee> keffo, is that a windows commercial game..never hoid of it
[09:23] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, ssh -l user hostname
[09:23] <Drews_Blunted> yea, thats what ive been doing
[09:23] <Florob> kbrooks: or ssh -l user hostname
[09:23] <Florob> as he wrote, so what's the point?
[09:23] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, root is disabled.
[09:24] <kaupolkan> wenas
[09:24] <jnoreiko> the gnome file search box -- is its being broken a ubuntu or a gnome bug?
[09:24] <ob1kenobi> who can help me in trobleshooting microphone that doesn't work?
[09:24] <kbrooks> A disabled account is an account that has no password set on it.
[09:24] <neighborlee> where does one get plugins for rhythmbox for mp3 ( or does one : yes I know ogg is better but atm I have mp3 I need to play)
[09:24] <kaupolkan> algun espaol aki?
[09:25] <kbrooks> Drews_Blunted, su considers user accounts (including root) with no passsword to be insecure
[09:25] <neighborlee> the rhythmbox menu has no indication of where to find them
[09:25] <venkman> bhna, when i make a new initrd do i need to re-install grub?
[09:25] <ob1kenobi> neighborlee, have you tried gstreamer-mad?
[09:25] <bhna> venkman: no
[09:25] <neighborlee> ob1kenobi, checking
[09:26] <kbrooks> Florob, see my definition of disabled above.
[09:26] <jnoreiko> neighborlee, check the ubuntu guide page.
[09:26] <chase> anyone got a apt-source file which has the newest version of gaim? i cant seem to get above 1.1.4
[09:26] <venkman> bhna, i set MODULES=none
[09:26] <ob1kenobi> who can help me in trobleshooting microphone that doesn't work?
[09:27] <venkman> bhna, is that ok if i use ext3 for my root partition?
[09:27] <Florob> kbrooks: yes... well but a) you didn't really have to explain the rest of the stuff and b) you asume he is trying to ssh into a ubuntu mashine and not from a ubuntu mashine, but anyway your probably right.
[09:27] <kbrooks> Florob, also, that IS why debian's base-config, when you get to root password, WILL NOT accept any blank root password
[09:28] <kbrooks> Florob, as a blank root password is insecure to su
[09:28] <neighborlee> ob1kenobi, k thx
[09:28] <imran> which package do I need to install to get yacc ?
[09:29] <Florob> kbrooks: I assume if su thinks that a password is insecure it wont alow to su to the specified user?
[09:29] <kbrooks> Florob, and if debian's base-config allowed a blank root password, everything would mess up
[09:29] <venkman> oh well
[09:29] <kbrooks> Florob, insecure pass = blank pass
[09:29] <venkman> i'm testin it out
[09:29] <venkman> we'll see how i did
[09:30] <xinUdetnuaH> Hey, just switched to flux from GNOME, and now it's switched keymap, how can I change it back?
[09:30] <kbrooks> Florob, so, yes, you are right
[09:30] <bhna> venkman: ext3 is compiled as modul. ext3 module has to be in the initrd.img
[09:31] <venkman> bhna, yea, it just bitched at me hardcore
[09:31] <kbrooks> if ext3 isnt in the initrd, you woint be able to access ubuntu anymore without you specifically rebooting with the livecd inside, and booting with root=
[09:31] <nullset> Any ideas why after installing ubuntu-calendar I cannot see it as an available option in right click - change background?
[09:31] <Florob> BTW, does anybody know why ubuntus kernel is so overmoularized?
[09:31] <kbrooks> and fixing it up
[09:32] <quiet> overmularized?
[09:32] <roo_> Florob, so that it can be provided as a binary (not source) package.
[09:32] <kbrooks> Florob, because ubuntu's users deserve much
[09:32] <venkman> bhna, if i specifiy modules=none in mkinitrd.conf and then put an entry in /etc/mkinitrd/modules will it still include the module for me?
[09:32] <roo_> Florob, to cover as many possible hardware configs as possible, making it easy for the user.
[09:32] <kbrooks> roo_, yeah
[09:32] <kbrooks> one example is loop. you must load that manually
[09:33] <kbrooks> because loop isn't really needed
[09:33] <Florob> no, I mean like standard FS is ext3 but even ext3 is only module and not static
[09:33] <kbrooks> for the majority of users
[09:33] <kbrooks> of ubuntu
[09:33] <kbrooks> (roo_: right?)
[09:33] <roo_> kbrooks, yep.
[09:33] <roo_> Florob, standard for who? there is no "standard" dude.. assumptions are the mother of all fuckups :)
[09:33] <mjr> Florob, usual as it may be, many users don't use it
[09:34] <kbrooks> don't use what?
[09:34] <roo_> Florob, kbrooks, if you included ext3 built into the kernel, what about the 10% that dont use it?
[09:34] <mjr> ext3
[09:34] <roo_> mjr, agreed
[09:34] <kbrooks> roo_: nice point
[09:34] <Florob> roo_: they have a bit to much in the kernel, but do you really think they'd care?
[09:35] <roo_> modular kernel configs are all about flexibility V performance.
[09:35] <roo_> Florob, yes. I would care.
[09:35] <bhna> Setting it to none will cause  mkinitrd(8)
[09:35] <bhna>               to not include any modules, even if modules were specified in /etc/mkinitrd/modules
[09:35] <roo_> Not everyone runs linux on a top end computer. To some, memory bytes are precious!
[09:35] <Florob> roo_: ok, convinced
[09:35] <roo_> Florob, ;)
[09:35] <nullset> Any ideas why after installing ubuntu-calendar I cannot see it as an available option in right click - change background?
[09:36] <roo_> Florob, also, modular kernels can make debugging easier, as well as cool hotplug functionality.
[09:37] <spiral> hello
[09:37] <bhna> venkman: setting it to none will cause mkinitrd to exclude any modules, even if modules were specified in etc/mkinitrd/modzules - man mkinitrd.conf
[09:37] <roo_> hi spiral
[09:37] <adrighem> Hi all
[09:37] <Florob> roo_: yup, BTW is perhaps I have just not thougt about it enough either, but why is it compiled with -Os rather than -O2 is kernel size so much of an issue? if than why?
[09:38] <spiral> I'dd like ubuntu to work on a new laptop...
[09:38] <adrighem> Anyone here who can set me up with a pile of Ubuntu CDs?
[09:38] <spiral> are there experts of boring laptops there ?
[09:38] <adrighem> I'd like to distribute the CDs at a middle/small business meeting conference thing this weekend.
[09:39] <roo_> Florob, Os produces smallest possible executable. small kernels are good..
[09:39] <FreezerX> How can I switch the frequence of the CPU to its total frequence value constantly?
[09:39] <adrighem> I was told to contact mako, but he's not really responsive. And when he is, I'm not. :)
[09:39] <drspin> I just installed RealPlayer 10 for Linux... how can I install the FireFox Plugin
[09:39] <drspin> ?
[09:39] <wasabi> So, I plug in a USB drive I have, and it detects the device and loads usb_storage.
[09:39] <wasabi> But it doesn't mount it.
[09:39] <wasabi> How do I make it mount it?
[09:40] <drspin> wasabi: hoary or warty?
[09:40] <wasabi> hoary
[09:40] <drspin> wasabi: pmount /dev/sda1
[09:40] <Florob> roo_: fast are too IMO ;)
[09:40] <SirFred> Hello
[09:40] <CarlK> where can I find the specs on nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR]  - hoary only lets me do 1024x768, guessing the card will do more
[09:40] <john6000> whats the root password
[09:40] <wasabi> drspin, why isn't that automatic?
[09:40] <drspin> wasabi: not sure... does it work with pmount?
[09:40] <john6000>  whats the root password
[09:40] <roo_> Florob, look at some benchmarks for Os V O2; the performance hit is often tiny.
[09:40] <wasabi> Yeah, it did.
[09:40] <EvilIdler> CarlK: That's a monitor setting, not card setting
[09:40] <john6000>  whats the root password
[09:41] <drspin> wasabi: paste $ dmesg |tail in #flood
[09:41] <phoenixp3k> I'm back once again, trying to fix an other bug :p
[09:41] <CarlK> john6000 - currently nothing
[09:41] <john6000> ok
[09:41] <drspin> john6000: use sudo $man sudo
[09:41] <bhna> john6000: there is no root password
[09:41] <john6000> ok
[09:41] <john6000> no root username ?
[09:41] <john6000> or just the pword
[09:41] <roo_> Florob, http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0302.0/0958.html
[09:42] <phoenixp3k> I have video lagging problems, and tryed to install Mplayer but crashes before even opening... sort of.
[09:42] <CarlK> EvilIdler -  my monitor will do more too - could it be my kvm switch hoses up some auto detection?
[09:42] <john6000> oh well
[09:42] <CarlK> john6000 - you don't get to know it ;).  use sudo
[09:42] <EvilIdler> CarlK: You need to specify the frequency ranges in the Monitor section in your X or Xorg confihg
[09:42] <roo_> btw, if anyone wants insanely cheap hosting, priv msg me (not me thats offering it, i have info on how)
[09:43] <drspin> wasabi: check your nautilus settings... in warty it's Computer -> Desktop Preferences -> Removable Storage
[09:43] <CarlK> EvilIdler - so everyone is capped at 1024 unless they edit xorg.conf?
[09:43] <goron> What's the graphical tool for configuring Samba?
[09:43] <CarlK> goron - SWAT or Webmin
[09:43] <EvilIdler> CarlK: When autodectection can't smell your monitor properly, yes :/
[09:43] <CarlK> EvilIdler - got it
[09:44] <EvilIdler> CarlK: I got a list of desired monitor resolutions when I installed, and picked 1600x1200 and a few others. Didn't you get that one?
[09:44] <CarlK> I did, but I just blew past it becase I wanted to install the nvidia drivers first
[09:44] <CarlK> now I wat to crank it up, and it won't crank
[09:44] <EvilIdler> CarlK: That's why you only have 1024x768, then ;)
[09:44] <wasabi> drspin, it is set to mount removable devices
[09:45] <Florob> roo_: interesting... though size difference isn't THAT big either.
[09:45] <drspin> interesting...
[09:45] <CarlK> EvilIdler - isn't there a script that will re-probe?
[09:45] <EvilIdler> CarlK: I had to adjust the frequency settings anyway, because it only did 60Hz at 1600x1200.
[09:45] <john6000> when i type startx it wont load
[09:45] <john6000> :(
[09:45] <drspin> unplug it -- wait 5 seconds -- plug it back in then paste dmesg | tail in #flood
[09:45] <roo_> Florob, no, i think for any more justification (rather than information), you should see #ubuntu-devel
[09:45] <drspin> wasabi: unplug it -- wait 5 seconds -- plug it back in then paste dmesg | tail in #flood
[09:45] <wasabi> Drspin, same stuff.
[09:45] <EvilIdler> CarlK: You're better off finding the range your monitor can handle, and adjusting the two lines in the config. Then save the config on permanent media till later :)
[09:45] <wasabi> it detects the device fine.
[09:46] <wasabi> gnome-vol-manager doesn't get it though
[09:46] <drspin> wasabi: I can see that -- what I want to see is why it's failing on the automount... BEFORE it's mounted
[09:47] <venkman> does initrd accept the same arguments as the kernel?
[09:47] <wasabi> Well, there are no mount mesages, PERIOD.
[09:47] <drspin> wasabi: OK -- check the logs for GVM
[09:47] <Florob> roo_: well, I don't really want them to change anything, I was just wondering. Who really wants (me) can still compile himself a custom kernel. Just bugs me right now that they failed to update nvidia-kernel-common
[09:47] <john6000> how do i open the package tool thing in console?
[09:47] <CarlKx> EvilIdler, Im trying to test the install and figure out what parts could use some help
[09:47] <wasabi> ahh here we are.
[09:47] <libben> can i run Kasablanca on ubuntu ? its for KDE env
[09:47] <drspin> so anyone know how to install the mozilla plugin for RealPlayer?
[09:47] <roo_> Florob, night, dream of updated kernels :p
[09:47] <EvilIdler> CarlK: EDID detection, no doubt :)
[09:47] <john6000>  how do i open the package tool thing in console?
[09:48] <EvilIdler> libben: Most tools don't care what environment they're run in, as long as you have the libraries required
[09:48] <john6000> thanks for the help
[09:48] <EvilIdler> libben: Check that kdelibs are installed
[09:48] <CarlKx> EvilIdler, so other than running the install and leaving  the KVM on that box for an hour, isn't tere a way to reprobe and figure it out?
[09:49] <EvilIdler> CarlK: The probe is only a blip at some point, and the whole install should only take a few minutes..
[09:49] <CarlKx> my idea of "whole install" = hoary, what is yours?
[09:49] <EvilIdler> CarlK: There is a tool called readedid or something, but I can't see it installed here :/
[09:50] <christian> hey, how do I gnome and xorg together?
[09:50] <christian> start*
[09:51] <CarlKx> xorgcfg is looking pretty cool
[09:51] <superted_> Does anyone know how beagle is coming along?
[09:52] <quiet> what kernel does hoary use? 2.6.10?
[09:53] <crimsun> yes
[09:53] <Ingo^> If i have a built in soundcard, could it prevent the other soundcard from being detected and used?
[09:53] <libben> y
[09:53] <quiet> cool
[09:53] <crimsun> Ingo^: no
[09:53] <mhz> hello, everyone!
[09:53] <anars> does anyone else have trouble with a certain package while installing the Ubuntu 5.04 RC (linux, not expert-mode)
[09:54] <anars> it's after the first reboot..
[09:54] <drspin> wasabi: it looks like you may have hit a bug.... file an ubuntu bug
[09:55] <mhz> anyone using Kubuntu??
[09:55] <bhna> mhz: yes
[09:55] <crimsun> mhz: /join #kubuntu
[09:56] <mhz> ah, ok. Did not know. :)
[09:56] <alexsmith> Having a few problems with vim in Ubuntu. I've got my XkbLayout set to "no", I've got previously working inputrc and vimrcs on, but up/down on the directional pad puts letters.
[09:56] <Orbo> just upgraed to hoary, no sound
[09:56] <Orbo> upgraded*
[09:56] <Orbo> checked the forums
[09:57] <Orbo> alsamixer works, but my output jack is off
[09:57] <crimsun> Orbo: lspci -v, lsmod, dmesg, cat /proc/asound/modules  => pastebin.com
[09:57] <dstevens> hi, is anyone having problems with mozilla-firefox not starting and causing a run-away process
[09:57] <xukun_> anyone using GeForce4 440 Go card?
[09:57] <Orbo> how do I turn it back on
[09:57] <Orbo> crumsun
[09:57] <crimsun> Orbo: and amixer output
[09:57] <_phate_> I have a Geforce 2 Ultra GTS (BladeRunner) card, what are the latest drivers and how do install them?
[09:57] <Orbo> amixer provides lots and lots of output
[09:57] <crimsun> Orbo: right, paste it to pastebin
[09:58] <ACID|net> is hoary still due out 6th?
[09:58] <lamont_r> 8th
[09:58] <lamont_r> "week of april 4"
[09:58] <dstevens> i have attempted to apt-get remove then installing again, still causes problems
[09:58] <ACID|net> ahh
[09:59] <crimsun> hinton-james, eh?
[09:59] <crimsun> or is that morrison?
[10:00] <Orbo> posted it crumsun
[10:00] <Orbo> crimsun*
[10:01] <drspin> where does FF keep it's plugins and components?
[10:01] <dstevens> Question is how can i reinstall-rollback mozilla-firefox to a working state, have tryed apt-get remove mozilla-firefox --purge  but is still leave a load of firefox shit.
[10:01] <crimsun> Orbo: unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital jack
[10:01] <Orbo> how, I can't unmute it, its not turned all the way down
[10:01] <Orbo> its just off
[10:01] <crimsun> press 'm' in alsamixer
[10:01] <Orbo> alrighty
[10:01] <dstevens> So when it come to reinstalling it seems to reinstall over the old stuff.
[10:02] <Orbo> thanks mate
[10:02] <crimsun> dstevens: you need to remove /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[10:02] <crimsun> Orbo: working?
[10:02] <FreezerX> I ve installed EmiFreq but how is this tool startet to set the cpu frequence?
[10:02] <Orbo> yeap
[10:02] <Orbo> yep*
[10:02] <crimsun> Orbo: good.
[10:02] <quiet> It would be cool is canonical shipped TheOpenCD for free like they do Ubuntu.. I have gotten quite a few clients to switch to Linux because of the free Ubuntu disks (I put them on the magazine table in my office)
[10:02] <Ingo^> anybody know how do install the soundcard?
[10:03] <Orbo> so I just upgraded to hoary, anything new I should give a go at?
[10:03] <ACID|net> whats TheOpenCD?
[10:03] <St0n3-C0l> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=576
[10:03] <St0n3-C0l> These are gdesklets in KDE ?
[10:03] <_phate_> how do I search for a package?
[10:03] <dstevens> crimsun: as in rm  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox, scratch head package management ??
[10:04] <lamont_r> ACID|net: a bunch of open source stuff compiled to run on windows
[10:04] <crimsun> dstevens: after you --purge mozilla-firefox, rm -rf /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[10:04] <lamont_r> www.theopencd.org, irrc
[10:04] <Orbo> I know I need gstreamer lame for encoding to mp3, but I dont have any repositories that have it, do you think its okay to use apt-get.org for it?
[10:04] <crimsun> _phate_: apt-cache search
[10:04] <lamont_r> _phate_: how do you search what for a package?
[10:04] <crimsun> Orbo: a bad idea.
[10:04] <dstevens> crimsun, ok cheers.
[10:05] <Orbo> grrr
[10:05] <FreezerX> or search with synaptic
[10:05] <lamont_r> apt-cache search word will find all packages that apt knows about that have descriptions containing 'word'
[10:05] <imran> TheOpenCd.org rocks :-)
[10:07] <imran> the fact that I'm credited on the contributors list has nothing to do with my opinion ;-)
[10:07] <forcer> Ok, my friend is happy with ubuntu :-) Any recommendations on a very basic introduction to GNU/Linux for newbies?
[10:07] <slask3n> are there any good apps for musicmaking in ubuntu or on linux generally?
[10:08] <jbailey> forcer: I don't know of a good one - The problem I find with most of them is they go into how filesystems work, and occasionally touch on a bit of programming.
[10:08] <Marble2> How come I can't download directories off a remote ftp server with lftp, but regular files work fine
[10:08] <jbailey> forcer: You probably want to look for an intro to Gnome or something like that.
[10:08] <dstevens> crimsun, tryed remove --purge, rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox, then re-install got Errors were encountered while processing: mozilla-firefox Extension System Warning: Failed to set up default extensions.
[10:08] <jbailey> forcer: I don't know that such things exist usefully, though, since gnome still changes in some pretty important ways every 6 months.
[10:09] <crimsun> dstevens: rm?  why not rm -rf ?
[10:09] <venkman> do i need to do a depmod before i use mkinitrd?
[10:09] <quiet> slask3n, musicmaking as in synth-type stuff??  like fast-tracker or something on windows?
[10:09] <St0n3-C0l> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=576  | These are gdesklets or wat ?
[10:09] <dstevens> crimsun, i did remove the directory and contents.
[10:10] <crimsun> dstevens: and what version was reinstalled?
[10:10] <quiet> slask3n, audacity is a great audio editor... but I'm not sure about music making tools..
[10:10] <Marble2> anyone?
[10:10] <Orbo> crimsun, do you suggest anything for mp3 encoding?
[10:10] <crimsun> Orbo: no.
[10:10] <dstevens> crimsun, Unpacking mozilla-firefox (from .../mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu4_i386.deb)
[10:11] <quiet> St0n3-C0l, it looks like gdesklets to me...  why?
[10:11] <_phate_> are there any nvidia drivers for Xorg?
[10:11] <dstevens> crimsun, weird after i done an update dist-upgrade all this started.
[10:11] <crimsun> _phate_: yes
[10:11] <[nrx] > is there a win32 alternative to linux's lspci?
[10:11] <crimsun> dstevens: 1.0.2-0ubuntu4 works fine here.
[10:12] <St0n3-C0l> quiet: I was not sure that we can use gdesklets in KDE too
[10:12] <quiet> [nrx] , device manager?
[10:12] <quiet> St0n3-C0l, of course...
[10:12] <[nrx] > quiet, that's not a take on lspci, is it
[10:12] <_phate_> crimsun, how do I install them?
[10:12] <St0n3-C0l> aham
[10:12] <quiet> not directly..  they're totally different OSes.. but it's as close as you will get... since it lists all peripherals of your OC
[10:12] <quiet> PC*
[10:12] <crimsun> _phate_: they're already installed, you just have to enable them.  See wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <[nrx] > quiet, no, it lists installed peripherals
[10:13] <quiet> [nrx] , right.....   ?
[10:13] <scorpix_> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/33934/index.html
[10:13] <dstevens> The thing i do not understand is if i ask apt to remove a package and purge the configuration file, thats what one expects it todo, delete wtf it installed, or am i asking for the moon on a stick.
[10:13] <gordonjcp> crimsun: I followed the instructions for the Riva TNT2 card, but I still get black screen once X starts
[10:13] <gordonjcp> crimsun: any thoughts?
[10:13] <quiet> [nrx] , if it's not installed it's listed as "unknown device"
[10:14] <quiet> [nrx] , if you have that problem.. look at the pice of hardware.. find model # or something.. and google it..  generally you can find drivers that way..  (if that's your problem)
[10:14] <crimsun> gordonjcp: Hoary?
[10:14] <gordonjcp> crimsun: yes
[10:15] <crimsun> gordonjcp: the version in Hoary has a known problem with TNT*
[10:15] <gordonjcp> crimsun: bugger
[10:15] <streetbmx> St0n3-C0l: i think they could also be karamba. i think kde users generally use karamba over gdesklets
[10:15] <crimsun> gordonjcp: hopefully we'll have 1.0-7174
[10:15] <St0n3-C0l> streetbmx: Thanks :)
[10:15] <gordonjcp> crimsun: is that in the "unofficial" drivers?
[10:15] <St0n3-C0l> I am updating my repos :P
[10:15] <crimsun> gordonjcp: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-April/006540.html
[10:15] <streetbmx> sure
[10:16] <gordonjcp> crimsun: ah, that's different from the last lot I looked at
[10:16] <dstevens> Next browser then firefox is total fully wank compliant, as it can install uninstall properly, who would be the next choice in browsers.
[10:16] <gilles> Is there libmysql-java for ubuntu ?
[10:16] <streetbmx> i have yet to tinker with kubuntu, does it replace gdm?
[10:16] <Burgundavia> where does gnome store you personal setting for opening files again?
[10:16] <St0n3-C0l> yes
[10:16] <crimsun> gilles: not that I'm aware
[10:16] <St0n3-C0l> uses kdm :P
[10:16] <drspin> OK so -- the symlinks for Real Player are in the right directory for FireFox... but Firefox isn't recognizing the plugins...
[10:16] <Burgundavia> is it .local?
[10:17] <slask3n> quiet: something simple like a l eJay and such, where you have a samplecollection and just mix them... just for fun...
[10:17] <crimsun> Mr-Petah: please disable that, thanks.
[10:17] <streetbmx> aw
[10:17] <gordonjcp> crimsun: presumably I need to change the Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia" like I would with any other distro?
[10:17] <crimsun> gordonjcp: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:17] <quiet> slask3n, check out audacity
[10:17] <slask3n> ok :)
[10:17] <gilles> crimsun: why not ?
[10:17] <quiet> i understand that the 'circle of friends' gdm theme is 'controversial'..  why is that??  i don't see anything wrong with it.. it looks very nice.. :)
[10:18] <Brik> i have a little big problem...i never seted a root password, i changed the name of the principal user with graphic interface and now ...i can't entrance in my passpartout... what can i do?
[10:18] <crimsun> gilles: the Java issues are just beginning to be sorted
[10:18] <Brik> i'm near desperation...
[10:18] <drspin> quiet: it's the sexual implications of the photgraphy I imagine...
[10:18] <gilles> crimsun: do you have an idea of how long will it take to have it ?
[10:19] <crimsun> gilles: Breezy, hopefully.
[10:19] <drspin> quiet: I personally appreciate the art :)
[10:19] <quiet> drspin, sexual implications??  lol.. you've gotta be joking..  i see more sexual implication on nickalodeon
[10:20] <gordonjcp> crimsun: the nvidia-glx-config script fails when I try it
[10:20] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[10:20] <Brik> nothing can helpl me?
[10:20] <Brik> have i really lost my system?
[10:20] <kkathman> greetings :)
[10:20] <drspin> quiet: right -- I'm just saying -- from a generalized American viewpoint -- the Ubuntu photographs are very sexual... American's suck when it comes to this stuff...
[10:20] <gilles> crimsun: translated to french, breezy mean nothing... (?)
[10:20] <dstevens> hello should doing 'apt-get install epiphany' give a command called 'epiphany' that should open a browser apon execution.
[10:20] <Amaranth> Brik: There is no root account in Ubuntu.
[10:21] <Amaranth> Brik: You can't login with the user account anymore?
[10:21] <pc03> sexual??????
[10:21] <quiet> drspin, i agree..  wow.. that's nuts.. i think it's fantastic..
[10:21] <Burgundavia> dstevens: you need epiphany-browser
[10:21] <Brik> Amaranth: yes i can
[10:21] <Burgundavia> dstevens: epiphany is something else
[10:21] <Amaranth> Brik: Then what's the problem?
[10:21] <quiet> there is too a root account.. it's just disabled
[10:21] <Brik> Amaranth: the problem is that i can't use sudo....
[10:22] <drspin> quiet: :P
[10:22] <Amaranth> Brik: o_O
[10:22] <drspin> Brik: o_0
[10:22] <resiak> Brik: What did you do to your user?
[10:22] <LordBubba> Can someone help me with a small issue ?
[10:22] <Amaranth> I know how to get to a mode that lets you fix it, I just don't know what to do from there. :)
[10:22] <kkathman> quiet so can you enable the root or is that just a no-no ?
[10:22] <Brik> Amaranth: i change with graphic interface the name of the user
[10:22] <drspin> anyone know why Firefox isn't recognizing RP10 plugins??
[10:22] <Amaranth> LordBubba: Don't ask to ask, just ask. ;)
[10:22] <kkathman> LordBubba, ask away
[10:23] <LordBubba> I can't get the mouse to function in the X version
[10:23] <Brik> Amarath: i changed the name from maxi to max
[10:23] <LordBubba> any ideas ?
[10:23] <quiet> you CAN enable the root account..  but it's a dumb idea.. you can do everything with sudo
[10:23] <drspin> LordBubba: is it a USB mou7se?
[10:23] <drspin> *USB mouse
[10:23] <LordBubba> no
[10:23] <LordBubba> PS"
[10:23] <LordBubba> PS2
[10:24] <Brik> but i cant use sudo
[10:24] <Brik> the password is not accepted now
[10:24] <drspin> Brik: also sudo -s will give you a root prompt
[10:24] <dstevens> root@ghost:~ # apt-get install epiphany-browser
[10:24] <dstevens> Reading package lists... Done
[10:24] <dstevens> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:24] <dstevens> The following extra packages will be installed:
[10:24] <dstevens>   iso-codes mozilla-firefox    wtf no fuckfox
[10:24] <quiet> or sudo  su
[10:24] <drspin> Brik: did you passwd root ??
[10:24] <Amaranth> Brik: Ok, are you comfortable with a command line and vim or nano?
[10:24] <huz> hello guys, I'm currently running an up-to-date hoary version on my nvidia graphic card based laptop. My kernel is 2.6.10-4-686. I'm currently encountering some X freeze. I don't have any logs to find the reason of this; have you any hints
[10:24] <Burgundavia> dstevens: epiphany uses the gecko rendering engine
[10:24] <kkathman> quiet, I just wondered, since all the other distributions have a root account. Many of us just learned to su root when we started I guess.
[10:25] <Brik> i can't use sudo
[10:25] <drspin> Brik: Why not?
[10:25] <Brik> i did sudo -s but it's required the password
[10:25] <Amaranth> Brik: Are you comfortable with a command line and vim or nano?
[10:25] <drspin> Brik: use YOUR password
[10:25] <Brik> and the password now is not accepted
[10:25] <LordBubba> and the system config is impossible , since i can't choose no at the " Does the mouse function Properly" lol
[10:25] <quiet> Brik, "passwd" and reset the password
[10:25] <drspin> LordBubba: use the [TAB]  key and the [SPACEBAR]
[10:26] <LordBubba> *test it*
[10:26] <dstevens> ok, so what browser works in ubuntu without fuckfox as it will not install or reinstall as the package is 'crap'
[10:26] <Amaranth> quiet: He changed his username and it didn't get updated in /etc/sudoers
[10:26] <Brik> Amarath : i can use Vi
[10:26] <kkathman> dstevens, are you on Ubuntu hoary?
[10:26] <drspin> Amaranth: oooh -- :) that would be a problem for him
[10:26] <dstevens> yup running hoary
[10:26] <Amaranth> Brik: Ok, reboot and use grub (where it says hit esc) and boot into "recovery mode" then edit /etc/sudoers
[10:27] <quiet> Amaranth, ahh. probably..  but it should just be the group.. not the username in sudoers.. no?
[10:27] <Brik> ok
[10:27] <Amaranth> Brik: The line to edit should be obvious, it'll have your old username it in
[10:27] <kkathman> dstevens, if you do your update and dist-upgrade the newest Firefox will be installed
[10:27] <Brik> what can i write?
[10:27] <Amaranth> quiet: Nope, it goes by username.
[10:27] <Amaranth> Brik: Change maxi to max
[10:27] <kkathman> dstevens, but if you just dont like FIrefox, Opera works well.
[10:27] <Brik> ok
[10:27] <Brik> i try
[10:27] <Brik> thanks
[10:28] <Amaranth> or the other way around, whatever you changed your user to
[10:28] <forcer> jbailey: Thanks! He's looking for an intro to the shell as well, and the file system, so that's not too bad. I guess we'll find something.
[10:28] <Amaranth> I forgot to mention that in recovery (single-user) mode it's quite easy to fsck everything up. ;)
[10:29] <Amaranth> I guess it's no worse than running as root though.
[10:29] <dstevens> Not that i dont like it, it will not run with out eating all the cpu cycle, all i want is browser that works
[10:29] <LordBubba> drspin : it doesn't help , it wont nudge the arrow from Yes to no
[10:29] <kkathman> dstevens, I suppose you are on Gnome?
[10:30] <Amaranth> dstevens: Sorry, I missed it, what was the problem?
[10:30] <jbailey> forcer: If you want that, ISTR some people speaking well of O'Reilly & Associates Intro to Linux boot.
[10:30] <forcer> jbailey: Nice. Thanks :-)
[10:30] <dstevens> Yup running a vanilla horay only install stuff from apt-get whatever
[10:30] <kkathman> Amaranth, he wants a different, less resource intensive browser other than Firefox
[10:30] <Amaranth> ah
[10:31] <Amaranth> well, first file a bug report about firefox eating CPU like that
[10:31] <dstevens> personally i would rather find a browser that works.
[10:31] <kkathman> dstevens, one thing you might do is make sure you have done that tweak to make pages load faster
[10:32] <Amaranth> then your options are mozilla, epiphany, opera, and atlantis
[10:32] <Amaranth> and lots more, but those are the major ones
[10:34] <dstevens> Nope all i installed on firefox was a web developer plugin, but on removal by apt it should just delete every thing it installed, so therefore it is not a problem with firefox but a problem with either 'apt' or some deb package problem, deb-rule whatever.
[10:35] <drspin> does anyone know why FireFox won't recognize why RP10 plugins?? the symlinks are in the right place I believe...
[10:35] <Brik> Amarath: thanks i have once more my system
[10:35] <dstevens> because it has been renamed Fuckfox
[10:35] <quiet> what xmms plug-in do i need to install for the shoutcast(winamp .pls files) radio??  generally it just auto-opens with xmms..
[10:36] <kkathman> dstevens, if you dont like Firefox then, I'd suggest Opera or one of the others that were mentioned. I have both Firefox and Opera installed, both work just fine on my box
[10:36] <marska> Hello. How does one enable mp3 support in Ubuntu?
[10:36] <roo_> marska, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:37] <gilles> non of the gstreamer0.8... stuffs works on Hoary
[10:37] <gilles> why ?
[10:37] <roo_> we should set up a bot in here, anyone that mentions "mp3, divx, movies, mplayer, formats, etc" with a "?" should be sent http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats in a priv msg :)
[10:37] <dstevens> kkathman: I have nothing against it, presume nothing, and i will try.
[10:37] <marska> roo_  that would work
[10:38] <venkman> ok
[10:38] <venkman> how can i change the order of hotplug loading modules
[10:38] <venkman> or insert a modual at a certain spot in the order
[10:38] <dstevens> ok, apt-get install opera Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:38] <dstevens> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package opera has no installation candidate, boo boo
[10:39] <scorpix_> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/33934/index.html
[10:39] <marska> I think we should remind ourselves about how glorious Synaptic is.
[10:39] <dstevens> i really feel like a troll but im not, i just a simple person who would like to browser some shit.
[10:40] <marska> GUTB
[10:40] <gilles> is it better to use mp3 to rip CDs or other format ?
[10:41] <Amaranth> gilles: If you care about quality and have HD space to burn use flac.
[10:41] <Amaranth> gilles: Otherwise, ogg vorbis is better than mp3.
[10:41] <Keizer> Does the java-pkg not build javac into Ubuntu?
[10:41] <elninja> ah.
[10:42] <Keizer> elninja, Cool nick
[10:42] <Arti> ubuntu is so nice, it connects to wireless lan faster than windows and has less problems with my usb mouse (windows sometimes reports unknown hardware)
[10:42] <marska> gillles:  This  is an old debate. MP3 is better supported.. So if you plan to use an iPod or something, rip to MP3
[10:42] <Sir> Hi all, I have a Ubuntu problem... I was updating my ubuntu dist (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and my computer crashed before it finished.
[10:42] <elninja> handy..  just insttalledd ubuntuu aand as  you can  see.. keybaaordd repeaatt raatees are goingg mmadd
[10:42] <elninja> pls help
[10:42] <dstevens> llooll
[10:42] <elninja> heh
[10:42] <elninja> uhuh
[10:43] <gordonjcp> elninja: hheeeeehhhh hhheeehhh hheehhhh
[10:43] <marska> Computer->Desktop->Keyboard
[10:43] <elninja> i  just want the norrmall bios setttingss...
[10:43] <Sir> Now, I can start just about everything but xserver.
[10:43] <elninja> i know.. doeessn't  heellp
[10:43] <elninja> reppeaat aandd delay are on  low
[10:43] <marska> Gun to forehead  -> Pull back hammer -> Fire
[10:43] <^Ocean^> does the ubunto cd use grub or lilo
[10:43] <elninja> deelay  on high
[10:43] <elninja> ofccourse
[10:44] <grogoreo> does anyone know of a cross platform program like www.xfire.com?
[10:44] <elninja> also.. keyboard hangs on loginscreen after boot
[10:45] <will_cat> ei
[10:45] <will_cat> somebody could tell me
[10:45] <marska> Question.. I'm trying to install Mozilla through Synaptic. I check the package and it begins to download, and then prompts for the Ubuntu CD. I do not have access to the CD and wish to download from the web address. How can I force it to download from the package depository?
[10:46] <will_cat> which are the packages that allow you to install a kernel image and then in a automatic put it un menu.lst of grub loader?
[10:46] <Arti> marska, remove the cd entry from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <Sir> Marska, can you not use apt-get ?
[10:46] <Arti> or comment it out
[10:46] <marska> Sir: Its just a general problem, would like to resolve it.
[10:46] <marska> Arti: Thank you.
[10:47] <Sir> Anyone have an idea on my question?
[10:47] <will_cat> just comment the line in /etc/apt/source.list
[10:47] <will_cat> just comment the line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:47] <Burgundavia> will_cat: any kernel image should do it
[10:47] <will_cat> yes?
[10:47] <Sir> (My computer crashed while apgrading to Hoary....Now I can't boot)
[10:48] <kkathman> marska,  you can stop that if you remove the CD reference in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:48] <grogoreo> Sir, can you boot into recovery?
[10:48] <grogoreo> Sir, from grub
[10:48] <marska> kkathaman: Thank you. I just did
[10:48] <will_cat> somebody told that ubuntu has 2 especific packages to do that
[10:48] <Sir> No, I can't start X server (I don't think taht I can...  I don't know why anyone would care to answer questions in a irc channel.. Otherwise test their sanity.
[10:49] <grogoreo> Sir, well when you turn on your computer you will have a list of partitions to boot. There should be an option for recovery
[10:49] <kkathman> dstevens, did you just try doing an apt-get update, then an apt-get install mozilla-firefox ?
[10:49] <grogoreo> Sir, the X Server has nothing to do with grub or booting up the kernel
[10:49] <marska> But you guys do and I thank you for it.
[10:49] <Sir> I will be right back (going to other computer... Will try it. Thanks for the tip)
[10:49] <dstevens> What its English, in the dictionary.
[10:49] <jordanau> grogoreo, quick google search shows that some people have gotten xfire to work (albiet very glitchy) in wine. Thats all i know
[10:49] <kkathman> marska, some of us just like to be helpful if we can :)
[10:50] <Burgundavia> dstevens: the channel is governed by the Ubuntu Code of conduct
[10:50] <Jishi> hello everyone
[10:50] <grogoreo> jordanau, thanks, but I allways try to use as much native programs as i can.
[10:50] <elninja> anyone can tell me how to get divx/xvid to work in Totem Movie player? Or should I install a completely different player?
[10:50] <grogoreo> Sir, does the screen go blank when it tries to load the X-Server? Try pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 to goto your commandline
[10:51] <elninja> Can anyone get the resolution higher than 1024 x 768 ??
[10:51] <Keizer> How can I install JDK?
[10:51] <dstevens> what a load of wank
[10:51] <kkathman> elninja, yes I have 1280 x 1024
[10:51] <Jishi> any advice guyz.. I need to use bluetooth on Ubuntu, And sync my cell and with Evolution calander.... and file transfer.  I also want to be able to access by phone book and sms.
[10:51] <elninja> kkathman, I can't even select that.. ATI 9600 + 1280 flatpanel
[10:52] <Jishi> I was not sure about Bluez or gnome-bluetooth...
[10:52] <kkathman> elninja, hmm, what resolution are you able to get?
[10:52] <Burgundavia> dstestevens: please keep you language under control, as per the Ubuntu Code of conduct. If you have a specific problem, please raise it
[10:52] <Sir> I love you all, I got it working (I think)
[10:52] <kkathman> Burgundavia, I think he left, thank goodness :)
[10:53] <skraaningsulv> hi all, just discarded windows and installed a clean ubuntu. but before i did so i collected some files to my second harddisk. i then removed that harddisk physically, and installed ubuntu. after that i put the second harddisk back into the computer and restarted ubuntu. but i dont know how to find it....?
[10:53] <elninja> kkathman, display can have 1280 and videocard about 2048 x .... orso
[10:53] <Sir> Thanks a milion guys... Although the tip was one for a n00b, it helped a lot.
[10:53] <grogoreo> skraaningsulv, you need to add it in your /etc/fstab
[10:53] <quiet> is gdesklets broken in ubuntu?? it doesn't start.. trying to start it from terminal tells me "gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead"
[10:54] <Burgundavia> gdesklets is generally broken
[10:54] <quiet> lol..  i seem to notice that..
[10:54] <Burgundavia> honestly, I cannot answer your question, sorry
[10:54] <quiet> np
[10:56] <sig> where do I change my video driver in ubuntu ?
[10:56] <sig> gui
[10:56] <Keizer> sig, You wanting to setup another driver?
[10:57] <sig> Keizer: I want to view what other drivers there are out there for this
[10:57] <Keizer> You'll want to edit your xorg.conf file I believe.
[10:57] <bhna> sig: no gui. you have to edit the xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[10:57] <sig> I know that
[10:57] <sig> hmm
[10:57] <skraaningsulv> grogoreo i foud the text file but what should i write? this is the secondary (slave) harddisk and i guess it is FAT32 partitioned
[10:57] <Keizer> My turn
[10:57] <Keizer> I want to build java so I have javac. That's standard in JDK
[10:57] <sig> This laptop has: ATI Radeon IGP 340M  card
[10:58] <Keizer> What's the command to build from a jdk.bin file?
[10:58] <Keizer> The .deb builder.
[10:58] <sig> don't think there is a driver for this yet
[10:58] <Keizer> That's all I need
[10:58] <Keizer> I thought it was java-pkg or something
[10:58] <Keizer> But I can't remember
[10:58] <Keizer> I know I did it to install JRE
[10:59] <venkman> sos
[10:59] <venkman> err
[10:59] <venkman> wow
[10:59] <venkman> i really hate hotplug
[10:59] <venkman> with a pation
[10:59] <venkman> passion
[10:59] <Keizer> Make out with it
[10:59] <quiet> :/   trying to install "mplayer-586"  it says it all kinds of dependancies but "they are not going to be installed" ????
[11:00] <crimsun> quiet: Warty? Hoary?
[11:00] <quiet> warty
[11:00] <Keizer> Ouch
[11:00] <crimsun> quiet: see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:00] <quiet> i am..
[11:00] <quiet> that's the quide i'm following
[11:01] <quiet> i've added all of the repo's too
[11:01] <marska> Was that the restricted url for MP3 support?
[11:01] <quiet> marska, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:01] <grivell> Is there a repository for PPC libdvdcss2 for Ubuntu?
[11:02] <crimsun> quiet: apparently my instructions were munged
[11:02] <grogoreo> skraaningsulv, open the file up with gedit as root and copy your main drive, probably /dev/hda if it is a IDE Hard Drive on the first IDE socket. Then change it from ext3 or ext2 to ntfs or vfs (vfs for fat32)
[11:02] <grogoreo> skraaningsulv, but make sure you have the ntfs package
[11:02] <quiet> crimsun, so what do you suggest?
[11:02] <Rebroad> Hi. I'm running hoary with the latest updates and my PC keeps freezing now (but didn't do this before some recent kernel-image and xserver-xorg updates). Anyone else experienced this? BTW, I'm using nvidia-glx
[11:02] <ACID|net> i have a 1.2Ghz 12" Ibook - how easy would it be to dual boot with hoary?
[11:02] <crimsun> quiet: you need to aptitude update && aptitude install mplayer-586=1.0-pre6a-0.0
[11:03] <Och> Somebody know why there is a rpm directory in /usr/src ????
[11:03] <apokryphos> The current kernel still having problems with the nvidia drivers? Locked out of X again because of it...
[11:03] <josh__> i thought esd was going away in hoary?
[11:03] <grivell> ACID|net: Ever run Linux on ppc before?  (new world).  I have same system.  Running Debian, with Ubuntu on a USB hd (chroot)
[11:04] <Bazzi> how do I edit the PATH? I need to add JAVA_HOME
[11:04] <quiet> thanks crimsun!!!
[11:04] <apokryphos> Bazzi: edit your .bashrc and put it in there
[11:04] <hohlraum> Och: cuz you have rpm installed? :)
[11:04] <libben> what was it to type to install a deb file ? sh blablaDEBFILE.deb
[11:04] <a_monkey> would i be able to use the ubuntu livecd to install ubuntu as well as test it out?
[11:04] <bhna> Och: compatibility-reasons
[11:04] <kbrooks> libben, dpkg -i
[11:04] <Och> hohlraum, no way! ;-)
[11:04] <quiet> i didn't realize i was actually supposed to include the "=1.0xxxx" i thought it was just telling me what ti was going to install
[11:04] <gilles> I have got the following error msg with totem : "There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///tmp/vue_sur_chine03042005.asx", you might need to install the corresponding plugins". Can I solve it ?
[11:05] <ACID|net> grivell: Nope, never installed anything on this ibook - its new
[11:05] <a_monkey> or do i have to download the install cd?
[11:05] <Och> bhna, thanks
[11:05] <a_monkey> to install it
[11:05] <quiet> a_monkey, different CD
[11:05] <Bazzi> apokryphos why should I add that there?
[11:05] <bhna> Och: sorry for the typos
[11:05] <gordonjcp> crimsun: ping?
[11:06] <a_monkey> quiet: what?
[11:06] <apokryphos> Bazzi: ~/.bashrc is the command run when Terminals are open. Things such as the PATH, and other variables set such as Java etc.. are placed in there. Lots of stuff on this on Google.
[11:06] <Bazzi> k
[11:06] <grivell> ACID|net: It is not that hard to do.  I have OSX / Debian dual boot.  And can use MacOnLinux for Java/Flash if need be.
[11:06] <a_monkey> quiet: so i have to use the install cd to install? the livecd is only for testing it out?
[11:06] <quiet> a_monkey, no... you can't install from the LiveCD..you need to download the installer
[11:06] <quiet> a_monkey, yes
[11:06] <a_monkey> quiet: ok thx.
[11:07] <Bazzi> apokryphos cause I dont see any PATH things there
[11:07] <quiet> :)
[11:07] <Rebroad> apokryphos, just before you logged in, I said "Hi. I'm running hoary with the latest updates and my PC keeps freezing now (but didn't do this before some recent kernel-image and xserver-xorg updates). Anyone else experienced this? BTW, I'm using nvidia-glx"
[11:07] <a_monkey> can you set up root on ubuntu? i heard you can't.
[11:07] <ACID|net> 'passwd root'
[11:07] <ACID|net> i think,
[11:07] <a_monkey> ok
[11:07] <ACID|net> check
[11:07] <Keizer> Ubuntu is being a hassle
[11:07] <apokryphos> Bazzi: No :). You add that in.
[11:07] <Keizer> I can build the jre no problem
[11:08] <Keizer> But the JDK reports this:
[11:08] <Keizer> fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_02-linux-amd64.bin
[11:08] <Keizer> Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXX2IXxH3
[11:08] <Keizer> Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh
[11:08] <Keizer> No matching plugin was found.
[11:08] <crimsun> gordonjcp: yes?
[11:08] <apokryphos> Rebroad: Bah; evil kernel/nvidia. Well, pretty much same problem here
[11:08] <apokryphos> Rebroad: irssi is *not* pretty.
[11:08] <socomm> apokryphos: Speak for yourself.
[11:08] <Rebroad> apokryphos: are you managing to use X? I am, but it keeps freezing, and I have to shutdown by pressing the power button- that's the only way to continue!
[11:09] <Rebroad> apokryphos: who is irssi?
[11:09] <Och> bhna, no problem ;-)
[11:09] <gordonjcp> Rebroad: I'm having problems with hoary and a Riva TNT2
[11:09] <gordonjcp> Rebroad: black screen after booting up
[11:09] <gordonjcp> crimsun: tried those drivers, still no success
[11:09] <gordonjcp> crimsun: am I basically wasting my time trying to get Ubuntu to work with a TNT2?
[11:09] <crimsun> gordonjcp: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[11:09] <apokryphos> Rebroad: not really; if I select "nv" as driver I can only get around 640xsomething resolution
[11:09] <gordonjcp> crimsun: I can't get that far
[11:09] <crimsun> gordonjcp: hmm?
[11:09] <apokryphos> Rebroad: with vesa, it goes pretty crazy, but gets the resolution right. Neither I could really stick with
[11:09] <gordonjcp> crimsun: that would require some sort of working console
[11:09] <apokryphos> Rebroad: it's a text-based IRC client
[11:09] <Rebroad> apokryphos: oh.. I'm able to use nv and nvidia with 2.6.10-5-686, but only nv with 2.6.11
[11:09] <crimsun> gordonjcp: which you have.
[11:10] <gordonjcp> crimsun: not any more I don't
[11:10] <libben> so i type dpkg -i filename.deb and it installs ?
[11:10] <Lefungus> hello !
[11:10] <apokryphos> Rebroad: I've only got 2.6.10 here
[11:10] <Rebroad> apokryphos: but when I saw "working" i mean- it freezes sometimes. not even Ctrl-Alt-F1 unfreezes it :(
[11:10] <kkathman> apokryphos, hey guy hope you are well today :)
[11:10] <gordonjcp> crimsun: give me a moment
[11:10] <crimsun> gordonjcp: sure you do.  Boot into rescue mode.
[11:10] <skraaningsulv> do i need the ntfs package to mount a fat32?
[11:10] <Lefungus> I was wondering which utility I could use to view and edit files in hexadecimal under ubuntu
[11:10] <Lefungus> any idea ?
[11:10] <bhna> skraaningsulv: no
[11:11] <apokryphos> Rebroad: ergh.  I hope these problems are fixed soon.. it's not the first time it's happened.
[11:11] <Rebroad> i think i might have to re-install an old kernel and xserver from my 03032005 burned hoary cd...
[11:11] <apokryphos> kkathman: Hi; not too bad.
[11:11] <gordonjcp> crimsun: recovery mode is now hosed too
[11:11] <Jamminpotato_> anyone in here program in java nad python
[11:11] <zendog> got a little problem, the 2 keymaps in ubuntut warty's gnome that corresponds to my keyboard, are incomplete, the latin american ones, how can i override this to get the la-latin1.kmap.gz, its my first time using gnome, hehe, y used to be at wmaker always...
[11:12] <Rebroad> anyone here seen the new xserver where the windows flex as you move them?
[11:12] <crimsun> gordonjcp: how so?  How far does rescue get?
[11:12] <gordonjcp> it gives me a root prompt then hangs
[11:12] <libben> kasablanca depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0)
[11:12] <hohlraum> Rebroad: luminocity?
[11:12] <libben> I dont have that..
[11:12] <gordonjcp> hmmm
[11:12] <Lefungus> Because when I try to open binary files under emacs or vim, they try to open it in text mode :(
[11:12] <libben> but it dont exist in apt-cache search
[11:12] <Rebroad> hohlraum: i think that's what it's called. have you seen it?
[11:13] <gordonjcp> this gets weirder, if I unplug the keyboard and plug it back it, it works again
[11:13] <libben> should i install a lower version and try?
[11:13] <a_monkey> does hoary or debian testing have more up-to-date packages?
[11:13] <gordonjcp> crimsun: OK, I think I've narrowed the recovery console problem down to keyboard weirdness
[11:13] <r0bnyc> can I install ubuntu w/o burning the iso?
[11:13] <elninja> can't get my Digital Output working (emu10k1x), anyone? :(
[11:13] <Keizer> This sucks
[11:13] <hohlraum> Redbroad: its Luminocity (window manager) + Xfake .. i've got it up and running on my FC3 install.
[11:14] <Rebroad> r0bnyc: you could - in vmware
[11:14] <gordonjcp> crimsun: nvidia driver version is 7174
[11:14] <hohlraum> 7167
[11:14] <r0bnyc> Rebroad: this pc scuks so bad i wont be able to run vmware here since it only has 256mb/pc133 ram
[11:14] <Rebroad> r0bync: what os are you currently running?
[11:14] <Rebroad> r0bync: 256mb will be enough
[11:15] <r0bnyc> Rebroad: kanotix
[11:15] <pdoms> what do i have to type to find where ESD-Enlightment is?
[11:16] <Rebroad> r0bnyc: why don't you want to continue with kanotix?
[11:16] <Keizer> OMG
[11:16] <kkathman> r0bnyc, as long as you have a dedicated video card, 256 should be enough I'd think
[11:16] <Keizer> How do I update the /usr/share/java-package/sun-j2sdk.sh to reflect my package?
[11:16] <r0bnyc> intel i810 scuks too
[11:16] <r0bnyc> celeron 635mhz scuks too
[11:16] <gordonjcp> nn all
[11:16] <Keizer> It has the appropriate package in regex
[11:16] <crimsun> gordonjcp: k
[11:16] <Keizer> OMFG
[11:16] <quiet> pdoms, locate?
[11:16] <Keizer> CarlK, Y0
[11:16] <hohlraum> Rebroad: its Luminocity (window manager) + Xfake .. i've got it up and running on my FC3 install.
[11:16] <gordonjcp> crimsun: thanks for your help anyway
[11:17] <Keizer> CarlK,  Heelllllllllp
[11:17] <pdoms> quiet, "System->Preference->Multimedia System Selector-><Audio Tab> Choose Output "ESD -Enlightment...." " but i don't find this multimedia ... :S
[11:17] <crimsun> gordonjcp: and are you using any additional options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:17] <kkathman> r0bnyc, I had an old HP Pavillion with only 96MB and Ubuntu ran on it ok ...a little slow, but still ran fine even with Gnome :)
[11:17] <quiet> r0bnyc, hey!
[11:17] <gordonjcp> crimsun: nope, it's plain vanilla.  I tried commenting out Option "dri" as one web page suggested but it made no difference
[11:17] <r0bnyc> oh
[11:17] <gordonjcp> crimsun: I even compared it to a known-good xorg.conf file from my Slackware machine
[11:18] <r0bnyc> quiet: u seem familiar
[11:18] <Rebroad> hohlraum: where do I get luminocity and Xfake from please?
[11:18] <crimsun> gordonjcp: hmm.  Have you reported this on nvnews.net's Linux+Nvidia forum?
[11:18] <hohlraum> live.gnome.org/Luminocity i think
[11:18] <quiet> r0bnyc, arch
[11:18] <gordonjcp> crimsun: no
[11:18] <gordonjcp> crimsun: the board works perfectly well in Slackware 10.1
[11:18] <r0bnyc> quiet: knew it ;)
[11:18] <quiet> r0bnyc, didn't work out?
[11:18] <pdoms> quiet, is there any other way to get there?
[11:18] <skraaningsulv> hmmm i need to make the root user, have not done so yet.
[11:19] <quiet> pdoms, what is it??  a plugin...a media file??
[11:19] <r0bnyc> quiet: yea it did but im on my old pc cuz my laptop is messed up
[11:19] <pdoms> quiet, I think an option
[11:19] <kkathman> skraaningsulv, you dont need a root with Ubuntu though
[11:20] <quiet> r0bnyc, ahh..  well cool.. I really like it.. i just stuck ubuntu on my notebook to play with it again.. I love tweaking arch.. but i like ubuntu for it's simplicity
[11:20] <r0bnyc> quiet: lol
[11:21] <Rebroad> my favourite command of all time: meld
[11:21] <tck> so hoary final is out tomorrow
[11:21] <kkathman> Rebroad, sounds ominous :)
[11:21] <tck> is that like 2 hours time :P
[11:21] <quiet> pdoms, i dunno.. strange..in what application?
[11:21] <Rebroad> i hope they fix the nvidia kernel problem before it goes final!
[11:21] <Draal> Hello.. Um.. Why doesn't ubuntu playback my mp3 files?
[11:21] <tck> Draal, select right codec from xmms
[11:21] <gordonjcp> tck: 'lo
[11:22] <Draal> xmms?
[11:22] <quiet> Draal, because mp3's are not free...wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats :)
[11:22] <tck> search symatic for 'mad' plugin
[11:22] <tck> lo gordonjcp  :P
[11:22] <zendog> Draal, you have to install the gstreamer-mad
[11:22] <Lokadin1> say does anyone here use a modem with ubuntu?
[11:22] <tck> Draal, what player are you using
[11:22] <josh__> ok... anyone have any familiarity with the via_82xx sound driver? (VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 30))
[11:22] <zendog> Lokadin1, yep, a external modem..
[11:22] <Lokadin1> anyone use an internal modem on ubuntu?
[11:23] <Dreamer3> when the driver is loaded it prevents gnome from starting up... both in hoary and warty
[11:23] <Dreamer3> crimsun: you around?
[11:23] <tck> Draal, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:23] <Draal> tck: Totem
[11:23] <tck> read as above
[11:23] <zendog> Lokadin1, internal modems are a very hairy topic, check www.linmodems.org
[11:23] <tck> should help you out
[11:23] <Lokadin1> thanks
[11:24] <Rebroad> hehe. I have Netscape 7 and Thunderbird sharing the same profile. seems to work, and lets me import mail from thunderbird to evolution :)
[11:24] <zendog> Lokadin1, my recomendation, buy a external non-usb modems, the best...
[11:24] <pdoms> quiet, talking about this "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19526&highlight=xmms+mp3" read the "SOLVED IT" part
[11:24] <crimsun> Dreamer3: yes?
[11:24] <grivell> Is there a PPC version of Marillat for Ubuntu?
[11:24] <Draal> So I can't play back my mp3 files in Ubuntu?
[11:25] <Dreamer3> crimsun: i have a via82xx chipset and the audio driver is blocking gnome from starting... same effect on hoary as warty, so the new kernel didn't help
[11:25] <zendog> Draal, you dont readed all? you can, indeed.
[11:25] <lok> grivell, if it's for w32codecs you can't use theme with ppc
[11:25] <Dreamer3> crimsun: removing the snd_82xx (not sure exactly name) or killing esd repeatedly allows gnome to start, any ideas?
[11:26] <Draal> Zendog: Just seems to be a few extra hoops
[11:26] <zendog> Draal, in this very moment, im listening to my massive attack mp3's in my rythmbox
[11:26] <grivell> lok: No for libdvdcss2
[11:26] <zendog> Draal, in a warty...
[11:26] <Keizer> OMG
[11:27] <Keizer> How can I do dpkg search package ?
[11:27] <tck> Keizer, apt-cache search program
[11:27] <Rebroad> Keizer: install apt-file
[11:27] <grivell> Keizer: apt-cache search "my stuff"
[11:27] <bretzel> Hi htere :-)
[11:27] <crimsun> Dreamer3: I'm not sure what you're saying; is snd_via82xx actually hanging the system?
[11:27] <sig> apt-cache search package
[11:27] <Keizer> But I built these packages
[11:27] <Rebroad> Keizer: I think apt-file might be better in that you can search for packages that contain any file - even if you don't have them installed
[11:27] <Keizer> They are the java packages built from a .bin file.
[11:27] <gordonjcp> crimsun: any other thoughts on my TNT2?
[11:28] <sig> apt-file search name
[11:28] <kkathman> Draal, not hoops really, just need to get the right packages to install, thats all.
[11:28] <Keizer> aptitude is the system package manager I guess
[11:28] <crimsun> gordonjcp: unfortunately, no
[11:28] <zendog> Draal, check your synaptic, for easy adding the universe and multiverse repositories, then just download the gstreamer-mad, :)
[11:28] <grivell> lok:  Found it, Marillat's homepage says where to go for PPC :-P
[11:28] <Dreamer3> crimsun: the system isn't hanging, but gnome either displays a brown background (warty) or doesn't even get that far (hoary)... it just sets there... i didn't give it more than 2-3 minutes... rmmoding the sound driver... or killing esd a few times will "jumpstart" things
[11:28] <Draal> Thanks Zen
[11:28] <lok> grivell, enjoy :p
[11:28] <Dreamer3> crimsun: obviously these are permanent solutions, so i was hoping yuo'd have suggestions
[11:29] <zendog> Draal, np bro
[11:29] <skraaningsulv> it does not seem as i can alter the fstab file as user myself
[11:29] <gordonjcp> crimsun: ah, well, nm then
[11:29] <crimsun> Dreamer3: ok, first thing to test is whether gnome starts successfully with the setting "Enable sound server startup" _UN_checked
[11:29] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ok :) i think that'll prove me point, but hold on :)
[11:29] <gordonjcp> crimsun: is it worth trying a Geforce 2, to see if that narrows it down to the card?
[11:30] <crimsun> gordonjcp: yes
[11:30] <Dreamer3> crimsun: brb
[11:30] <gordonjcp> crimsun: ok, I'll need to take it out of this machine so I'll try it tomorrow
[11:30] <crimsun> gordonjcp: ok.
[11:31] <Dreamer3> crimsun: starts flawlessly without a sound daemon
[11:31] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ie, unchecked
[11:31] <gordonjcp> crimsun: I'll let you know how I get on
[11:32] <gordonjcp> crimsun: I need an excuse to buy a new graphics card anyway ;-)
[11:33] <Dreamer3> crimsun: i guess the next thing would be to see if sound works from the console via alsa, or no/
[11:33] <Dreamer3> ?
[11:33] <crimsun> Dreamer3: yes
[11:34] <Dreamer3> crimsun: well, darn i have no speakers...
[11:34] <crimsun> headphones? :)
[11:35] <Dreamer3> crimsun: and is it works from console, bug against esd, if not i might just be stuck?
[11:35] <Dreamer3> crimsun: no headphones here either :)
[11:35] <Dreamer3> crimsun: does hoary have the latest alsa?
[11:35] <Rebroad> ubuntu is so user friendly! Impressive! you put in a new hoary CD and it asks if you want to automatically update everything. cool.
[11:35] <Dreamer3> this chipset isn't new though
[11:35] <crimsun> Dreamer3: not necessarily an esd bug, since if you start esd from the terminal and use an esd app, and it works, then that shoots that theory
[11:35] <Burgundavia> hoary users, please try to go to https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8650 in firefox and see if you can select ok
[11:36] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ok, so basically get speakers and play around?
[11:36] <crimsun> Dreamer3: no, Hoary's kernel contains 1.0.6, which is ~2 revisions older than the latest.
[11:36] <Dreamer3> crimsun: how hard is it to get the latest?
[11:36] <crimsun> Dreamer3: fortunately, 'alsa-source' is 1.0.8, which is currently the newest.
[11:37] <Dreamer3> crimsun: i'm apt-getting alsa-source now
[11:37] <Dreamer3> crimsun: i think upgraded to the latest will be quickest... then if no problem, i'll assume it's fixed
[11:37] <crimsun> Dreamer3: you'll also need 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)' and 'build-essential'
[11:38] <crimsun> Dreamer3: (1.0.9 is right around the corner)
[11:38] <Dreamer3> crimsun: good notes
[11:38] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ah
[11:38] <Dreamer3> crimsun: well, this is a GREAT PC, but without sound it's gonna kinda suck
[11:38] <Dreamer3> crimsun: wait, once hoary freezes 1.0.9 will be harder to get, no?
[11:40] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ok, i don't REALLY need build-essential (which includes g++) i just need MOST of it, right? :)
[11:40] <Draal> Trying to install mplayer and the following error comes up.. mplayer-386:
[11:40] <Draal>  Depends: libfaad2-0 but it is not installable
[11:40] <Draal>  Depends: libpostproc0 but it is not installable
[11:40] <Draal>  Depends: libxvidcore4 but it is not installable
[11:40] <Draal> How do I resolve this?
[11:40] <crimsun> Dreamer3: you need build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and alsa-source
[11:40] <apokryphos> Rebroad: well, finally got it working, though temporarily now using 386 kernel.
[11:40] <crimsun> Draal: what cpu?
[11:40] <Rebroad> apokryphos: ah.. hmm. i think maybe i should try that also
[11:41] <apokryphos> Rebroad: using 2.6.10-7 here
[11:41] <fuzzyman> looking forMKAY
[11:41] <apokryphos> (before -5)
[11:41] <Draal> Crimsun: Pentium M
[11:41] <crimsun> Draal: use my repo, and install mplayer-586=1.0-pre6a-0.0
[11:41] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ok ok :)
[11:42] <fuzzyman>
[11:42] <richard42> does anyone know how to set up courier?
[11:42] <richard42> i want to use it with evolution
[11:42] <Draal> "My Repo" ?
[11:43] <peters80> Help! My hard drive with Ubuntu (and all my files) will not boot, it says there is an error with the files system (buffer i/o error...attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read)  Am I doomed?
[11:43] <crimsun> Draal: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:45] <woodwizzle> I have a dual boot system with a vfat partition that I can keep data in that I'll need to read and write under either OS (ubuntu & windows)
[11:46] <woodwizzle> But in ubuntu I don't have write permissions and I can't figure out why
[11:46] <woodwizzle> I've tried to sudo chmod them but that doesn't work.
[11:46] <Draal> Crimsun: You mean the multiverse repo?
[11:46] <Draal> Which repo is "My Repo"
[11:46] <crimsun> Draal: sh.nu/~crimsun
[11:46] <Dreamer3> crimsun: have you had lots of people that needed to upgrade to get their sound working?
[11:47] <Dreamer3> crimsun: or anyone?
[11:47] <Arti> woodwizzle, probably its set as readonly in /etc/fstab ?
[11:47] <crimsun> Dreamer3: quite a few, but they are hardly the norm
[11:47] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ah...
[11:47] <crimsun> Dreamer3: many, many more have simply dist-upgraded flawlessly
[11:47] <Dreamer3> crimsun: any with this hardware?
[11:47] <crimsun> Dreamer3: iirc, yes
[11:47] <Dreamer3> crimsun: well, like i said warty never worked either on this box :)
[11:47] <Dreamer3> crimsun: same issue
[11:48] <woodwizzle> Arti, nope, its set to defaults
[11:48] <woodwizzle> /dev/hda7       /windows        vfat    defaults       0       0
[11:49] <xophEr> Hello, what kernel is ubuntu 5.04 hoary (rc) shipped with? sorry for being so ignorant, didnt find out with a quick googling so I thought I could ask here :)
[11:49] <crimsun> xophEr: 2.6.10 + $tons_of_patches
[11:49] <Burgundavia> 2.6.10
[11:49] <andrek> what is a good ftp server for ubuntu?
[11:49] <xophEr> allright, thank you
[11:49] <crimsun> andrek: try vsftpd
[11:49] <[anders-mcafee] > andrek: anyone you can run chrooted with as little privilegies as possible
[11:50] <[anders-mcafee] > ;-)
[11:50] <Dreamer3> crimsun: downloading
[11:50] <crimsun> k
[11:51] <Draal> Trying to use apt-get to install a program, this error comes up. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:52] <Draal> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:52] <peters80> I am currently running Ubuntu Live, but have a (malfunctioning) hard drive mounted.  I am trying to fix the hard drive and have the feeling fsck might help, how do I run fsck to check the mounted harddrive from my live boot?
[11:52] <Draal> Is this because of synaptic?
[11:52] <[anders-mcafee] > Draal: is synaptic running?
[11:52] <Dreamer3> crimsun: are their instructions anywhere for nvidia with ubuntu? (i'm sure there are)
[11:52] <peters80> deamer3 ubuntuguide.org
[11:52] <Draal> mcafee: Yes
[11:52] <crimsun> Dreamer3: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:53] <Dreamer3> peters80: thanks!
[11:53] <gilles> Do I need to do something special to upgrade from ubuntu hoary preview to release candidate ?
[11:53] <Dreamer3> crimsun: should i follow the wiki over the guide?
[11:53] <peters80> gilles: also on ubuntuguide.org
[11:53] <zendog> Draal, u can't use synaptic and apt-get at the same, in separated terms...
[11:53] <[anders-mcafee] > Draal: that could be why you have the lock file there, try installing the program with synaptic, or quit synaptic to use apt-get
[11:53] <crimsun> Dreamer3: reconcile both :)
[11:53] <Draal> Alright.. Thanks
[11:53] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ok :) this sytem is already so fast though, i can hardly imagine it getting faster
[11:54] <Dreamer3> crimsun: guess that's what i get for using a slow 900 laptop all this time :)
[11:54] <woodwizzle> how come I can't even change the owner of the directory with sudo chown???
[11:54] <jonathan_> woot
[11:54] <[anders-mcafee] > woodwizzle: you should be able to
[11:55] <gilles> peters80: no, it's not
[11:55] <Dreamer3> i need the nvidia drive for vanta, correct?
[11:55] <Ex-Cyber> wow... "Rhythmbox is the GNOME music player that lets you do everything"
[11:55] <crimsun> Dreamer3: sure, TNT-based
[11:55] <woodwizzle> [anders-mcafee]  sudo chown corey /windows
[11:55] <woodwizzle> chown: changing ownership of `/windows': Operation not permitted
[11:55] <javi> hi there fellas, im trying to install mplayer, i configured apt to multiverse repository, and made: apt-get install mplayer, then i get this output: Package mplayer is a virtual package provided by:  *mplayer-nogui 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6  *mplayer-k6 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 *mplayer-custom 1:1.0-pre5-0.6ubuntu1 *mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 *mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6. Then if i choose any of these: i get a dependencie problem that i dont have some lib
[11:55] <javi> s installed, it is safe to install this libs first? i mean (i think) apt should do it automatically
[11:55] <peters80> gilles sorry I misunderstood you question
[11:55] <crimsun> Dreamer3: though if you don't need hardware 3D acceleration, "nv" will suffice.
[11:55] <kkathman> Ex-Cyber, LOL
[11:55] <crimsun> javi: what cpu do you have?
[11:55] <Dreamer3> crimsun: i want the cool screensavers :-)
[11:56] <javi> amd xp barton
[11:56] <Dreamer3> crimsun: this will be a dual-head monster when i'm done with it
[11:56] <Ex-Cyber> kkathman: I knew Ubuntu came with lots of useful software, but this really takes the cake :D
[11:56] <crimsun> javi: install mplayer-k6
[11:56] <[anders-mcafee] > woodwizzle: what permissions are there on the /windows directory and is it mounted read-only?
[11:56] <javi> k
[11:56] <Alessio> 5 minutes to hoary
[11:56] <skraaningsulv> so i entered my new disk in fstab, but where should i look for it now when i have rebooted?
[11:57] <kkathman> Ex-Cyber, I dont even have any speakers for my Lin-box...they are on my Windoze one
[11:57] <woodwizzle> its not mounte, bd read only, its mounted with the default option in /etc/fstab. Its owner is root and its permissions are 755
[11:57] <woodwizzle> sorry, its not mounted read only =)
[11:57] <javi> crimsum: i get this output: The following packages have unmet dependencies: mplayer-k6: Depends: libsvga1 but it is not installable or svgalib-dummyg1 but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[11:57] <woodwizzle> can't type.
[11:57] <javi> crimsun*
[11:58] <crimsun> javi: do you have universe uncommented as well?
[11:58] <[anders-mcafee] > woodwizzle: if it is mounted rw, you should be able to chown it through sudo.. is there any stuff in /var/log/messages ?
[11:58] <andrek> is ftp udp or tcp?
[11:58] <javi> i changed uniververse by multiverse
[11:58] <javi> universe*
[11:59] <[anders-mcafee] > andrek: tcp
[11:59] <javi> or should i have the two repository's ?
[11:59] <crimsun> javi: you need universe compiled, too
[11:59] <andrek> what about ssh? udp?
[11:59] <[anders-mcafee] > andrek: you sort of need tcp as you want to ensure all bits of the files you xfer get there. ;-)
[11:59] <crimsun> javi: s/compiled/enabled/
[11:59] <[anders-mcafee] > andrek: ssh/scp/sftp is tcp as well.
[12:00] <woodwizzle> nope, nothing in messages
[12:00] <andrek> ok :p