[00:00] <Psi-Jack> dmnur: I'll be trying those two options out later today actually. Earlier, by manually umounting the /isodevice, I installed elementaryOS, but while eOS seems great, and has the Ubuntu base, they completely stripped out system tray icons from their latest release which really bites me.
[00:00] <Psi-Jack> Besides, I'm testing on my laptop, secondary computer, not my desktop. ;)
[00:04] <lipe66> GPG error: https://dl.yarnpkg.com/debian stable InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG E074D16EB6FF4DE3 Yarn Packaging<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:05] <lipe66> anyone know if its a problem on the repository?
[00:09] <OerHeks> lipe66, add the key, follow their instructions
[00:10] <lipe66> well yesterday this did not happen now it shows and i did nothing
[00:10] <jesse1010> kubuntu is giving me problems installing
[00:10] <cryptodan_mobile> lipe66: contact the yarn devs
[00:10] <jesse1010> i want to do luks encryption with the boot loader on another ssd
[00:11] <jesse1010> but the auto partition wont do this
[00:11] <jesse1010> maybe I should install ubuntu and then install kde?
[00:13] <lipe66> thanks
[00:13] <OerHeks> i see they use https for repos, did you install  apt-transport-https  ?
[00:17] <dmnur> Psi-Jack: alright, good luck. (I myself prefer XFCE and tiling WMs. :)
[00:17] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[00:18] <Psi-Jack> I once had a pretty extensive hybrid blend of i3 and XFCE.
[00:20] <dmnur> jesse1010: you can try using the network installer: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[00:25] <dmnur> jesse1010: at some point the installer will ask you what software to install, there will be the "Kubuntu desktop" option; see e.g. here: https://linuxthebest.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/ubuntu1804-unity-install_2.png
[00:26] <jesse1010> ah ok
[00:26] <jesse1010> im downloading ubuntu official right now
[00:26] <jesse1010> the kubuntu installer actually crashed on me
[00:26] <jesse1010> not a good sign!
[00:27] <jesse1010> is the kubuntu team different than the ubuntu team?
[00:30] <dmnur> jesse1010: yes, in parts specific to Kubuntu. You can check out #kubuntu if you have Kubuntu-specific questions.
[00:40] <aeolyus> Hey guys does anyone know what's the smallest font for ubuntu tty console? I'm currently using Terminus6x12 but I think even that is too big. Would appreciate the help a lot!
[00:42] <dmnur> aeolyus: how about these: https://proggyfonts.net/download/
[00:43] <dmnur> aeolyus: but no Unicode there, only latin.
[00:44] <aeolyus> I'll take a look at them. Thanks a bunch!
[00:56] <jesse1010> how do I install ubuntu with custom partitioning with encryption?
[00:56] <jesse1010> im not seeing how to do it
[00:59] <dmnur> jesse1010: as far as I know the only way to do this is to set up encryption manually.
[00:59] <EriC^^> yeah, there's no option in the installer, you have to set it up yourself
[00:59] <jesse1010> could I just install normally and then move the boot partition to my other ssd
[01:00] <jesse1010> thats the only thing I want to change
[01:00] <EriC^^> jesse1010: you could have /boot part of the encrypted partition if you wanted
[01:03] <jesse1010> the ubuntu installer sucks compared to fedora
[01:03] <jesse1010> just saying
[01:04] <dmnur> jesse1010: you can do this after the installation, yes.
[01:07] <jesse1010> wow
[01:07] <jesse1010> the installer crashed even using default options
[01:07] <jesse1010> partman failed with option 10
[01:12] <dmnur> jesse1010: do you use software RAID, LVM and/or already have any LUKS partitions?
[01:12] <jesse1010> yes there is a preexisting install
[01:12] <dmnur> jesse1010: you won't mind wiping it all?
[01:13] <dmnur> jesse1010: well, yeah, the installer has problems with these.
[01:26] <jesse1010> alright its working
[01:26] <jesse1010> i deleted the partitions in gparted first
[01:47] <Sven_vB> how do I debug high load averages? my CPUs are mostly idle and memory isn't even fully used (i.e. not even for caches).
[01:59] <GridCube> trying to log in to irc.ubuntu.com fails with (* Verify E: Failed to validate hostname? (-1))
[02:00] <tomreyn> GridCube: how are you trying to login there (which protocol, port, authentication method) and what made you think you could / hsould?
[02:01] <GridCube> irc.ubuntu.com/6697
[02:02] <tomreyn> you may have answered one of the questions i asked there, about the port number.
[02:02] <GridCube> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MSYsr5YWns/
[02:02] <GridCube> yes i was collecting the rest of the information
[02:02] <tomreyn> oh, take your time then
[02:02] <GridCube> i guess all you need is in the paste now
[02:04] <tomreyn> no, but i could guess. you'Re trying to connect to irc.ubuntu.com using the ircs (irc + ssl/tls) protocol on port 6697, and your irc client reports that the SSL hostname foun don the certificate the server presented doesn't match the one you asked it to connect to.
[02:05] <Psi-Jack> dmnur is gone hmmm
[02:05] <Psi-Jack> I guess I'll send him a memo. :)
[02:05] <GridCube> just reporting
[02:05] <tomreyn> GridCube: where did you read about "irc.ubuntu.com 6697"?
[02:06] <GridCube> tomreyn, http://i.imgur.com/6OJ0oey.png
[02:07] <tomreyn> GridCube: so it is configured in your hexchat irc client. did you put it there or was it there from the start?
[02:08] <GridCube> someday a few years ago i added the freenode line to my hexchat entry
[02:08] <GridCube> i guess
[02:08] <GridCube> i don't remember now, it was probably a decade ago
[02:08] <GridCube> haven't had to touch it again in ages
[02:08] <tomreyn> GridCube: i'm asking abou tthe highlighted line, since this is the one which is incorrect.
[02:09] <GridCube> i don't know about that as as i said, it's been always that since i've been using hexchat
[02:09] <GridCube> i haven't had to touch it in ages
[02:10] <tomreyn> GridCube: ok, let's assume this is jst an outdated profile and you should just delete the "irc.ubuntu.com/6697 line"
[02:10] <GridCube> why?
[02:10] <tomreyn> why what?
[02:10] <GridCube> that would frell up my logs, everything is logged under irc.ubuntu.com in my logs directories
[02:12] <tomreyn> well if you care about TLS and being able to verify certificates then you'll need to connect to the chat.freenode.net hostname, which is the one which is found on the certificates the freenode servers present. the irc.ubuntu.com isn't, which is why connections to this hostname fail.
[02:12] <GridCube> so unless you are saying that irc.ubuntu.com is deprecated for sure, I don't really want to remove that like
[02:13] <tomreyn> i assume it was never correct.
[02:13] <tomreyn> it is not correct now.
[02:13] <tomreyn> ,,,which is why you ran into this error message int he first place.
[02:14] <GridCube> why wouldn't it never be correct? if i haven't had a problem for years, up until today this evening, because i could log correctly in the morning
[02:14] <tomreyn> maybe you connected to chat.freenode.net;6697 before?
[02:15] <GridCube> no
[02:15] <tomreyn> or you didnt use TLS before?
[02:15] <GridCube> no
[02:15] <GridCube> the problem showed up just now, it worked correctly in the morning
[02:15] <jesse1010> i tried copying the boot partition to the ssd but it didnt work
[02:15] <GridCube> i've been using the same set up for a long time
[02:16] <tomreyn> GridCube: then i don't know. but i'm pretty sure that irc.ibuntu.com was not on the TLS certificates installed on the freenode irc servers during the past weeks and months.
[02:16] <tomreyn> anyways, you know how to solve it, i consider it solved.
[02:17] <GridCube> yeah, i know, i was just letting people know
[02:21] <tomreyn> jesse1010: which installer were you using therE? the alternative server installer can handle FDE
[02:22] <tomreyn> it also does custom partitioning
[02:23] <tomreyn> the 'alternative server installer' is also know as 'debian installer'
[02:23] <agio> hi all, when I run: apt-cache policy <package> im getting:
[02:24] <agio> E: encountered a section with no header....
[02:24] <tomreyn> agio: run "sudo apt-get update" first
[02:24] <agio> problem with mergelist /var/apt
[02:24] <agio> tomreyn: ok, trying now...
[02:24] <tomreyn> (and solve any issues reported there)
[02:26] <agio> tomreyn: that solved it, thanks!
[02:27] <tomreyn> yw
[02:27] <sappheiros> tjsimmons: are you TJ-?
[02:31] <tomreyn> sappheiros: i dont think so (but it's also not a support question). do you need support with something?
[02:32] <sappheiros> was gonna thank for the script TJ- made me
[02:32] <sappheiros> impressive regex
[02:33] <sappheiros> regex is like the wizardry of programming to me @_@
[02:33] <sappheiros> goodnight
[02:33] <sappheiros> (  sed -e 's/), /)\n/g' -e 's/:i386//g'   )
[02:33] <sappheiros> (i haven't tried it yet and i'd like to study it to learn everything about it before i execute it ...)
[02:37] <jesse1010> how can I move my boot partition?
[02:37] <tomreyn> looks like this is to get a list of packages without architecture, one package per line.
[02:37] <jesse1010> to another disk
[02:37] <leftyfb> jesse1010: can you provide some context as to why and what exactly you're trying to accomplish?
[02:37] <tomreyn> jesse1010: how do you boot?
[02:38] <jesse1010> i cant boot from nvme
[02:38] <Sven_vB> jesse1010, step 1: copy it. step 2 (optional): wipe the original
[02:38] <jesse1010> old hardware
[02:38] <jesse1010> i tried that but it wont boot
[02:38] <tomreyn> bios or uefi?
[02:38] <jesse1010> im not sure
[02:38] <jesse1010> its an old server board
[02:38] <tomreyn> gpt or msdos partition tables?
[02:39] <jesse1010> whatever ubuntu sets up
[02:39] <jesse1010> i deleted all partitions before running the installer
[02:39] <Sven_vB> jesse1010, are you sure you need to move the boot partition? not rather install a new boot loader?
[02:39] <jesse1010> how do I do that?
[02:39] <tomreyn> what ubuntu sets up depends on uefi/gpt booting, on the device sizes and on the installers you used
[02:39] <Sven_vB> you could try grub-pc with os-prober
[02:39] <jesse1010> would it keep up to date with the nvme bootloader?
[02:40] <Sven_vB> no idea how nvme factors into it
[02:41] <jesse1010> nvme is /home
[02:41] <Sven_vB> oh i see, https://askubuntu.com/questions/696999/unable-to-install-grub-in-dev-nvme
[02:41] <Sven_vB>  /home shouldn't be required for boot
[02:41] <jesse1010> yes i know
[02:41] <jesse1010> my motherboard does not support booting from nvme
[02:42] <Sven_vB> so you'll have to boot from something else. maybe a cheap USB memory drive.
[02:43] <Bray90820_> What's a good desktop interface for a 7 inch touch screen
[02:43] <Sven_vB> or a disk if you have them
[02:43] <Sven_vB> Bray90820_, xfce
[02:44] <Bray90820_> What about mate?
[02:44] <Sven_vB> Bray90820_, haven't tested it, so may be worth a try.
[02:45] <Bray90820_> Basically the way ubuntu use to be in 8.04
[02:45] <leftyfb> Bray90820_: try #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions. This is a support channel
[02:45] <Bray90820_> Ok
[02:46] <jesse1010> ah!
[02:46] <leftyfb> jesse1010: shouldn't you be booting from whatever storage device(s) is/are native to your hardware?
[02:46] <jesse1010> hang on, maybe I could install to the ssd
[02:46] <jesse1010> and then move my swap and home partitions to the nvme
[02:46] <jesse1010> that would work, right?
[02:46] <Sven_vB> jesse1010, yeah sounds like a plan. maybe tmp as well
[02:47] <Sven_vB> jesse1010, also consider whether you really need/want a swap at all.
[02:47] <jesse1010> why wouldnt i?
[02:48] <Sven_vB> I for one prefer to use my disk space for storing other stuff. :)
[02:49] <Sven_vB> haven't found a use for a swap partition yet.
[02:50] <Sven_vB> (works because I have 3 GB RAM)
[02:50] <leftyfb> jesse1010: if you've got 8G or more of memory, swap doesn't really buy you much. Debatable with 4G as well
[02:51] <jesse1010> how do I select not to install a swap?
[02:51] <Sven_vB> jesse1010, manual partitioning
[02:53] <Sven_vB> btw, in case the Ubuntu installer ever starts to annoy you, try debootstrap. I learned it this winter and I like the freedom I have now.
[03:05] <jesse1010> thanks
[03:15] <arbir> Hello .. happy new year all
[03:16] <arbir> i am trying to check if TRIM is enabled on my laptop.....
[03:16] <arbir> everytime I do a
[03:16] <arbir> hdparm -I /dev/nvme0n1
[03:17] <arbir> I am getting an error like this...
[03:17] <arbir> HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:17] <arbir> Can anybody please help me?
[03:18] <Sven_vB> arbir, is it a spinning disk=
[03:18] <Sven_vB> oh I see, probably not
[03:18] <arbir> Sven_vB: its an M2 ssd
[03:19] <arbir> Just got myself a brand new HP Envy x360 laptop and installed Ubuntu
[03:19] <arbir> everything works 100% fine.... but I was wondering, how to get this TRIM support going...
[03:27] <arbir> @Sven_vB .. any help would be greatly appreciated!
[03:27] <Sven_vB> arbir, yeah, I've no idea though.
[03:27] <sharkbait> Where's the best place to file bug reports against the ubuntu 18.04 LTS live environment?
[03:28] <arbir> @Sven_vB ok
[03:28] <Sven_vB> sharkbait, depends on which package is buggy
[03:29] <sharkbait> cryptsetup
[03:31] <SlidingHorn> sharkbait: you can always run the   ubuntu-bug <packagename>   command
[03:33] <sharkbait> SlidingHorn: I'd tried that, ubuntu-bug never completes
[03:35] <SlidingHorn> sharkbait: ubuntu-bug ubuntu-bug?  Really though, check here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bugs
[03:35] <sharkbait> it fails silently back to the shell
[03:36] <sharkbait> SlidingHorn: Thanks, i'll give that a shot
[03:54] <jesse1010> why is ubuntu trying to install grub on my nvme when I selected my ssd as the drive I want to install on
[03:59] <Copenhagen_Bram> I'm having problems with systemd, something seems to go wrong where all services time out
[03:59] <Copenhagen_Bram> When trying to use flatpak I get this:
[04:00] <Copenhagen_Bram> error: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.Flatpak.SystemHelper': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)
[04:01] <Copenhagen_Bram> $ systemctl restart tor
[04:01] <Copenhagen_Bram> Failed to restart tor.service: Connection timed out
[04:01] <Copenhagen_Bram> See system logs and 'systemctl status tor.service' for details.
[04:02] <whoagie> I have an encrypted Ubuntu install (standard stuff you do from the Ubuntu installer, I just checked "encrypt") that I'd like to move to a larger disk using Clonezilla or dd or whatever. Will the fact that it's encrypted cause any issues? Like potentially prevent me from increasing the partition size to make use of the extra space available on the new disk once I start using it?
[04:02] <SlidingHorn> Copenhagen_Bram: what version/flavor of ubuntu are you using?
[04:03] <Copenhagen_Bram> 18.04, i can't tell what flavor it is anymore
[04:04] <SlidingHorn> what flatpak is giving you this error?
[04:04] <Copenhagen_Bram> it was originally just ubuntu with the default gnome DE, but then I installed lubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop, then I tried to purge and clean up lubuntu and ubuntu as much as I could
[04:04] <Copenhagen_Bram> so now it's supposed to be xubuntu but it has a lubuntu splash screen on bootup, and I just use i3
[04:05] <Copenhagen_Bram> and that's also why I'm installing gentoo on my other laptop
[04:05] <JoeLlama> moo
[04:05]  * Copenhagen_Bram has deja vu
[04:06] <Copenhagen_Bram> the flatpak is quaternion
[04:06] <Copenhagen_Bram> here's the full thing
[04:06] <Copenhagen_Bram> $ flatpak install https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/com.github.quaternion.flatpakref
[04:06] <Copenhagen_Bram> The application com.github.quaternion depends on runtimes from:
[04:06] <Copenhagen_Bram>   https://dl.flathub.org/repo/
[04:06] <Copenhagen_Bram> Configure this as new remote 'flathub' [y/n]: y
[04:07] <SlidingHorn> Copenhagen_Bram: for future reference, when you have multiple lines, use a pastebin...
[04:07] <Copenhagen_Bram> sorry
[04:16] <Copenhagen_Bram> i suppose rebooting fixes this issue temporarily
[04:54] <Wonny> Hey guys does anyone know where I can get the meanings of all the -u -m -i -etc for the ubuntu terminal?
[04:57] <sirensari_> Wonny: man pages
[04:57] <lordcirth_> Wonny, for what command? You can run 'man command' to get the manual
[04:57] <sirensari_> Wonny: type `man command`
[04:59] <Wonny> mhmm. When should I use man vs help? I've been using help this entire time.
[04:59] <Bashing-om> Wonny: The switches are assigned per command instance . To know the individual switch meaning see the manual command for the command employed : ' man <command> '.
[05:00] <Wonny> Ah so these are called switches? The -u and -p stuff?
[05:00] <Bashing-om> Wonny: Also known as arguments to a command .
[05:36] <pjs> is there a way to "flush" my local dns server.. I have a cached entry and want to clear it (I'm assuming my upstream already has because a sub-domain has updated as well and I can verify by querying the upstream directly)
[05:38] <pjs> ah, systemd-resolve --flush-caches
[06:20] <WoC> What's the meta name for kde ?
[06:21] <WoC> or is there a handy list of the meta names somewhere ?
[06:24] <WoC> k, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[07:39] <HaMsTeRs> Hello everyone, I have two quick questions:  1. does shim/mokutil database store in EFI boot partition?   2. Could we put our computer to sleep while machine running without swap partition defined?
[07:39] <core7> is there a way to speed up apt update - by using the last time it was run and making sure that if it was run only a few minutes ago, it does not do anything?
[07:40] <core7> ah - that does not make sense - because in my case I am change src - nevermind :)
[07:49] <AndyChow888> HaMsTeRs, I think sleep yes, hibernation no. As for shim, I don't know what that is.
[07:55] <HaMsTeRs> Hi Andy, thanks for reply.  Shim is like DKMS which is like a Machine-Owner Key management system
[08:53] <zap0> i get this when i invoke g++ with a bunch of link things:  collect2: fatal error: cannot find 'ld' compilation terminated.   any idea how to fix it?
[09:09] <legreffier> zap0: did you install build-essentials ?
[09:10] <zap0> i tried  'apt install build-essential'  and it said already installed
[09:12] <legreffier> zap0: oh my bad, it should be in the package binutils
[09:17] <zap0> that's already installed, apt says it's the newest version
[09:17] <zap0>  i can see  /usr/bin/ld
[09:17] <zap0> just don't know why GCC suddenly can't find it
[09:40] <legreffier> zap0: does "which ld" shows something relevant ?
[09:40] <zap0>  says  /usr/bin/ld
[09:41] <OlofL> I have a pdf file that I want to convert to epub. Any good tools for that? I tried some online thing, but it messed up the header/footer
[09:42] <legreffier> zap0: what's the command you're actually trying ?
[09:43] <ducasse> OlofL: calibre can do that iirc
[10:23] <py_dev> I am currently facing a kernel panic issue with my computer. It says something like /sbin/init: No such file or directory.
[10:23] <py_dev> I have a TinyCore live disk.
[10:23] <py_dev> How can I use it to salve the situation?
[10:31] <EriC^^> py_dev: mount the filesystem and see if the file exist
[10:34] <py_dev> EriC^^: It doesn't exist.
[10:34] <EriC^^> py_dev: which ubuntu version is this?
[10:40] <py_dev> EriC^^: 18
[10:48] <[twisti]> i want to add some cron jobs that run hourly, but i dont want them all to run at hour:00. i could manually pick random minute numbers, but in other similar tools like jenkins cron, there is the option of specifying a special character that will auto generate a random number. anything like that for cron ?
[10:48] <EriC^^> [twisti]: i dont think so
[10:49] <EriC^^> py_dev: what about "ls /lib/systemd/systemd"
[10:51] <py_dev> EriC^^: Yes
[10:57] <py_dev> EriC^^: Exact error is: error while loading shared libraries: libseccomp.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:57] <py_dev> exitcode=0x00007f00
[10:59] <py_dev> Actually, I see a possible solution here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/833735/kernel-panic-on-boot-run-init-sbin-init-no-such-file-or-directory
[10:59] <py_dev> But I can't afford to download a 300+ mb ISO at the moment. What's an alternative?
[11:07] <RalphBa> Is it possible with Ubuntu to use GRUBs decryption modules to really fully encrypt disk like you could with manjaro?
[11:07] <py_dev> Anyone here able to help, please?????
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> !patience | py_dev
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: the best way to get your issue solved is to re-ask once in a while to the channel, all in one line and with 'all' your details
[11:08] <py_dev> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[11:09] <py_dev> I have an error like so on booting: error while loading shared libraries: libseccomp.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:09] <py_dev> How can I fix this^
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !details | py_dev
[11:10] <py_dev> lotuspsychje: I tried to do it in one line like you advised.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: ubuntu version, kernel version? clean install?
[11:11] <py_dev> I have the following Kernel Panic error when booting: error while loading shared libraries: libseccomp.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:11] <py_dev> My OS is Ubuntu 18.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: 18.04 or 18.10?
[11:14] <py_dev> The kernel is 4.15.0-43
[11:15] <py_dev> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 18.04
[11:16] <py_dev> I see a possible solution here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/833735/kernel-panic-on-boot-run-init-sbin-init-no-such-file-or-directory
[11:16] <py_dev> But I can't afford to download a 300+ mb ISO at the moment. What's an alternative?
[11:16] <py_dev> Is there a small distro ISO I can boot to run the fix command?
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: thats another error then you first mentioned?
[11:17] <py_dev> lotuspsychje: I thought they were similar.
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: what kind of system do you have? some specs please?
[11:18] <py_dev> Dell Latitude E5570
[11:18] <py_dev> 8GB RAM. 256 SSD
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: that should be able to install ubuntu fine
[11:19] <py_dev> Two major partitions: One for system files; the other for /home
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: can you enter your system with a liveusb?
[11:19] <py_dev> lotuspsychje: I don't mean the space to install.
[11:19] <py_dev> I mean I don't have that much internet bandwidth.
[11:19] <py_dev> lotuspsychje: Yes, I can.
[11:20] <RalphBa> py_dev, check priv msg
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> !pm
[11:20] <RalphBa> >py_dev< I'm no ubuntu official basically this error says that a library required at boot is not where it should. I assume you have a broken package, maybe you lost power while updating? Check https://github.com/seccomp/libseccomp for deeper information about whats missing. I'd also try to run apt -f install in chroot on live system(check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery), but that depends on your skills. However,
[11:20] <RalphBa> your system is messed up and you should find out why or it might happen again.
[11:21] <py_dev> So what I'd like is a small distro with under 100mb to boot as live usb. I can afford to download this.
[11:21] <RalphBa> here you go
[11:21] <py_dev> RalphBa: Thanks. I get it.
[11:21] <py_dev> The issue here is you guys seem to be missing my point.
[11:22] <py_dev> What I am essentially seeking is a live disk that is quite small in size.
[11:22] <py_dev> I know I can't fix this unless with a live disk.
[11:22] <py_dev> But I must download that from the internet, and I do not have as much data.
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> py_dev: the minimal ubuntu
[11:23] <RalphBa> hmm... never leave the house without a usb key containing a working system :-D
[11:24] <RalphBa> well back to: Is it possible with Ubuntu to use GRUBs decryption modules to really fully encrypt disk including kernel like you could with manjaro?
[11:44] <Mughal56> py_dev: the smallest distro that I know of is alpine linux
[11:44] <Mughal56> py_dev: but whether that's going to end up being useful for you to repair your system with is another question entirely
[11:46] <py_dev> Mughal56: I think it has to be an Ubuntu one.
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !minimal | py_dev
[11:49] <py_dev> lotuspsychje: Yes, I think that might help. Download it at the moment...
[11:51] <WoC> py_dev, you may want to make a note of the kernel param; toram should you use the mini iso as a recovery media
[12:04] <WoC> Great stuff, esp https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UEFI-and-BIOS/stable-alternative
[12:05] <WoC> Making one now :)
[12:08] <WoC> Only problem is, the pendrive version is 16.04 and will cause issues with any btrfs volume created in 18+
[12:12] <leeyaa> hello
[12:12] <leeyaa> is there anything special i need to do in order to make the xl2tp ipsec plugin for network manager to work on 18.04 LTS?
[12:12] <leeyaa> for some reason i cant make it work
[12:12] <leeyaa> works fine on 16.04
[12:16] <tomreyn> leeyaa: please be more verbose than "can't make it work"
[12:17] <RalphBa> well back to: Is it possible with Ubuntu to use GRUBs decryption modules to really fully encrypt disk including kernel like you could do with manjaro?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: can this help anyhow? https://blog.valerauko.net/2018/05/19/ubuntu-18-04-l2tp-ipsec-vpn/
[12:19] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: yeah seen that one
[12:19] <tomreyn> RalphBa: yes, i did it the other day
[12:19] <leeyaa> tomreyn: well there is no real error in logs
[12:20] <leeyaa> it just connects, then after 30 sec it disconnects, because of a timeout
[12:22] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: i ended up in current situation following this blog
[12:22] <leeyaa> i can provide logs if that will help
[12:26] <RalphBa> tomreyn, how? especially, I have already a system set up LUKS+btrfs I want to add an ubuntu subvolume
[12:26] <RalphBa> but first I want to set up a clean system
[12:27] <RalphBa> LUKS+btrfs+GRUB luks modul
[12:28] <tomreyn> RalphBa: i haven'T tried btrfs, only grub + luks + md raid-1 + lvm + ext4
[12:28] <tomreyn> and that's an uefi system. let me findmy 'notes'
[12:30] <RalphBa> tomreyn, I can adapt it, no problem. just need to know how to make ubuntu use the grub luks module to read decrypted kernel and prerably to store a luks key into encrypted initrd so after grub decrypted it it doesn't ask for pw a second time
[12:32] <tomreyn> RalphBa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1762988#yui_3_10_3_1_1546432264619_1499
[12:34] <tomreyn> RalphBa: if you need to write gpt partition tables from within the installer then you need to "udpkg -i /cdrom/pool/main/p/parted/parted-udeb_*; parted /dev/sda" from the installer shell
[12:35] <tomreyn> or: parted /dev/sda mktable gpt
[12:35] <tomreyn> alternatively you can create the gpt table before booting into the installer.
[12:36] <tomreyn> i think it default to gpt only for storages >= 2TB
[12:36] <RalphBa> tomreyn, so I can convince installer to install on such a constellation
[12:36] <tomreyn> RalphBa: yes, if not that easily, i'm afraid.
[12:36] <tomreyn> but the abive should explain how you do it
[12:37] <tomreyn> alternatively you can do it with debootstrap.
[12:38] <RalphBa> tomreyn, thanks, will try my luck having these informations
[12:38] <tomreyn> RalphBa: here's the virtualbox configuration i used to try this on: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bzxt7SCKhQ/
[12:39] <tomreyn> RalphBa: i haven't done the keyfile for single passphrase, yet, but another regular here told me this: <TJ-> What I do is create the dir /etc/luks/ and put keys there as <usefulname>.keyfile, add those to /etc/crypttab, and then MOST IMPORTANTLY, add KEYFILE_PATTTERN="/etc/luks/*.keyfile" to /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook, set those files chmod 0400 and the directory 0500, and add UMASK=0077 to /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
[12:40] <RalphBa> ah, that reads well
[12:45] <tomreyn> leeyaa: sorry for not responding. did you make progress, yet? which packages did you end up installing? network-manager-l2tp-gnome from universe?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[13:29] <WoC> tomreyn, I have a btrfs volume that was created using a almost the current version of the kernel, but now i have ubuntu 16.04.5 which can not mount that volume, what would you suggest ? is there a way to get the btrfs from a current kernel and recompile it for my running kernel or would i need to upgrade kernel from the source of the current version ?
[13:39] <WoC> Seems like i can get https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arne/linux-btrfs.git and compile+install only the most btrfs (ko) or am I confused ?
[13:40] <WoC> errr s/most/most current/
[13:46] <originalabhay> anybody here?
[13:47] <WoC> Maybe ;)
[13:47] <originalabhay> heyy buddy! i'm new in IRC
[13:47] <originalabhay> help me out here!!!
[13:47] <WoC> k, in what way ?
[13:49] <tomreyn> !ask | originalabhay
[13:49] <tomreyn> hi WoC
[13:49] <WoC> Howdy tomreyn wb
[13:49] <originalabhay> !WoC nothing
[13:49] <tomreyn> i'm not really into btrfs
[13:49] <WoC> Did you notice my question re btrfs ?
[13:50] <WoC> oh
[13:50] <tomreyn> what does the 16.04 say when you try to moun tthe btfs?
[13:50] <WoC> Looks like i have to compile a new kernel after all, the git source i found was not current
[13:51] <tomreyn> also, is this 16.04 fully patched?
[13:51] <WoC> it complains about the sector size and wont mount
[13:51] <WoC> fully up2date, yes, fully patched; idk
[13:51] <tomreyn> do you still have the exact error message available?
[13:51] <WoC> sec
[13:52] <WoC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KVjdWFdMqJ/
[13:52] <tomreyn> by "fully patched" i mean that "sudo apt-get update" runs without warnings or errors and updates from at least all default sources and that "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" reports no pending updates
[13:53] <WoC> that it is
[13:54] <WoC> it mounts w/o issues in current kernel but not 4.4.0-141-powerpc64-smp
[13:54] <tomreyn> interesting, i can't find much while searhcing for btrfs + "incompatible sector size"
[13:54] <tomreyn> oh different architecture, too
[13:54] <WoC> Fixing to compile 4.20.0
[13:55] <WoC> it was made on this arch
[13:55] <WoC> so it is not cross arch
[13:55] <WoC> btrfs being non cross endian compliant
[13:56] <tomreyn> i see. looks like you know more about it than i do
[13:56] <tomreyn> so better talk to someone who does. ;-)
[13:57] <WoC> {; looks like I'm about to become that person ;P
[13:57] <tomreyn> having to rebuild the kernel or modules wouldn't seem like an acceptable solution to me
[13:58] <WoC> Well, the btrfs in 4.4.0 is a lot older than 4.20.0
[13:58] <tomreyn> i'd probably just used the HWE kernel
[14:01] <WoC> to be honest, i would have no idea how to go about that, i only found headers for HWE
[14:03] <WoC> However, i did find 4.15.0, which may be good enough
[14:04] <WoC> ty, appreciated
[14:05] <WoC> Now I'll find out if i can make a 64 bit kernel from a 32 bit userland ;P
[14:20] <tomreyn> !hwe | WoC
[14:20] <tomreyn> good luck with building that kernel ;)
[14:21] <tomreyn> i mean rthe 32 -> 64 one
[14:23] <WoC> ty, the running kernel is 64 bit, just the userland is 32
[14:30] <WoC> E: Package 'linux-generic-hwe-16.04' has no installation candidate
[14:31] <WoC> Reckon that is broken
[14:32] <OerHeks> WoC, userland is 32 bit .. never seen that before, can that be your issue?
[14:32] <OerHeks> the package linux-generic-hwe-16.04 certainly is available
[14:32] <OerHeks> !info linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[14:33] <tomreyn> WoC: it is linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 but only on supported architectures
[14:33] <OerHeks> arr.. yes, that also
[14:35] <WoC> OerHeks, ppc64 half way, ppc64 kernel and ppc userland
[14:36] <OerHeks> oh, no, amd64 only
[14:36] <OerHeks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?arch=powerpc&keywords=linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[14:37] <OerHeks> powerpc 8 ? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?arch=ppc64el&keywords=linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[14:38] <WoC> OerHeks, nope, power5
[14:39] <WoC> ppc64 not ppc64el
[14:39] <WoC> incompatible
[14:43] <OerHeks> WoC, then wait for the community for 18.04 packages
[14:45] <WoC> OerHeks, not quite an option, ppc/ppc64 eol at 16.04
[15:29] <fub> Hi. Im using a Thinkpad X1C with Ubuntu 18.04. After some time, my wired connection becomes "frozen" (nothing works anymore). Wireless still works. When I stop the wired connection and start it again over NetworkManager, I can see in the syslog that my DHCPDISCOVER request time out. What can I do here?
[15:29] <fub> There is nothing in dmesg regarding this. When I reboot it works again.
[15:33] <tomreyn> fub: could be that the dhcp server just doesn't respond. could be that client and server aren't compatible (make sure ubuntu is fully up to date). could be a bug in the NIC firmware. could be a power management issue.
[15:33] <tomreyn> maybe look for a bios update
[15:34] <visone> Howdy´
[15:34] <TJ-> fub: use 'tcpdump' check if there is any incoming traffic on the interface
[15:35] <tomreyn> also providing some of the dhcp logs and information on the network hardware, kernel version and NIC module may help reducing the suspects.
[15:36] <TJ-> I've seen some devices that lose the Rx side due to bugs in firmware/power-settings
[15:39] <OlofL> Anyone using laptop dock and have problems when you lock screen? Sometimes when I lock screen, eveyrthing gets locked, but i still see everything on screen. I can press the gnome menu to force machine to sleep, then reactivate.
[15:39] <itguys> OlofL: what version of Ubuntu
[15:40] <OlofL> 18.10]
[15:40] <OlofL> after it wakes from sleep. i get the regular lock screen / however, all the apps running in the dock are showing
[15:41] <itguys> OlofL: I had a bug on my Thinkpad where GNOME would show the dock on Ubuntu 18.10 after waking. I would check your display drivers.
[15:41] <itguys> OlofL: I never fixed it and just went back to 18.04 since this was in October. I thought it was a launch bug at the time.
[15:42] <Cybergrad> The Ubuntu website lists #ubuntu-accessibility as a discussion channel, not as a support channel; if I have a support issue with an accessibility feature in Ubuntu 18.10 I should ask about it here, yes?
[15:43] <itguys> Cybergrad: Sure
[15:44] <Cybergrad> I've already made a forum post, should I provide a link? I included a video illustrating the issue with the magnifier/zoom feature; it's hard to describe.
[15:44] <visone> anyone use systemback on a 18.4?
[15:45] <fub> tomreyn: it works in the beginning, its just that after some time it makes problems.
[15:46] <fub> TJ-: I applied your acpi script some days ago, can it be related to this?
[15:46] <OerHeks> visone, that is a mint thingy
[15:47] <tomreyn> Cybergrad: i'd say: relay whatever information is needed to enable people to support you.
[15:47] <TJ-> fub: I wouldn't have thought so.
[15:47] <OerHeks> systembackup and timeshift
[15:47] <visone> no, i meant in any flavors of ubuntu 18.4
[15:48] <TJ-> fub: but you need to identify precisely what the failure is. It could be the device is not receiving - we sometimes see bugs like that with NICs that offload some of the workload to the NIC hardware (firmware bugs), in whihc case you can use ethtool to disable various offloads
[15:48] <visone> is a fork of remastersys
[15:49] <fub> TJ-: tcpdump: https://pastebin.com/raw/WeNaEvJv
[15:50] <TJ-> fub: is that a USB-connected NIC?
[15:50] <visone> i´m tryng to made a live from my installed system
[15:51] <TJ-> fub: well, the log only shows transmitted packets so my hypothesis that there's no receive side looks to be correct
[15:51] <pjboro> Hi, guys. I've got a LUKS encryption question. I have the backup of partition header and LUKS header. Is this (with password from one of the slots) enough to recreate the master key and decrypt the partition?
[15:51] <fub> TJ-: my thinkpad is in a thunderbolt docking station. the ethernet cable is connected to the docking station.
[15:51] <TJ-> fub: the interface name "enx0050b68c5e50" suggests a USB-type connection since it has the NIC MAC address embedded in the name
[15:52] <Cybergrad> My system is 18.10 with an ATI Radeon HD 5870 (using the default drivers; clean install from USB w/ updates and media codecs + extras).
[15:52] <Cybergrad> When I use the magnifier, the lower half of the taskbar/panel isn't drawn when the magnifier is close to it, but as the magnifier is moved down through the viewscreen the rest of the taskbar/panel is drawn. This affects all elements associated with the taskbar/panel, including calendar and system tray, making interaction difficult.
[15:52] <TJ-> pjboro: yes; the LUKS header contains the master key
[15:52] <TJ-> pjboro: you can use the detached header and the plain encrypted data to unlock it
[15:52] <OerHeks> visone, the only tool i know that works, but not supported here, is cubic https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[15:53] <visone> OerHeks: thanks, i know it but doesnt´ fit with my goal
[15:54] <pjboro> TJ-: I thought the master key is somewhat scattered in secure stripes over the whole partition. What if one of the stripes is corruted? I'm not sure if I'm getting this right.
[15:55] <visone> cubic made a live from a *.iso
[15:55] <pjboro> TJ-: If I have the header and know the password I can recreate the master key and decrypt whole partition? I think I just repeated the question, but I slept just 4 hours and I'm not really sure what I'm doing using cryptsetup :D
[15:56] <fub> TJ-: what other debug output do I need to gather now?
[15:56] <pjboro> This is a great way to lose data, so just  checking ;)
[15:56] <fub> Or how can I debug this?
[15:56] <pjboro> Yep, I think I got you right.
[15:57] <TJ-> pjboro: the master key is in the detached header
[15:58] <TJ-> pjboro: you can tell cryptsetup to use that with the data partition to unlock it (e.g. creating the /dev/mapper/ node
[15:58] <TJ-> pjboro: header is not needed once that is done
[15:58] <James1138> Hello from Indiana. General question about Ubuntu. Has anyone used it to convert VHS tapes to MP4? If so - can I ask how it was done?
[15:59] <TJ-> fub: can you show us "pastebinit <( uname -r; lspci -nn; ip link show; sudo ethtool enx0050b68c5e50 )"
[16:00] <fub> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XWB7V4rkVj/
[16:00] <TJ-> fub: aha! I wondered if it would be this Intel controller: "I219-LM"
[16:02] <TJ-> fub: well known for this issue; in fact it usually happens from boot-up so you've been lucky to get some receive. It's due to a bug whereby the wake-on-lan/low-power mode on the Rx side is enabled. The only reliable fix we know of is to use Windows device manager to disable these modes!
[16:03] <pjboro> TJ-: thanks :)
[16:03] <TJ-> pjboro: do you dual-boot this PC with Windows?
[16:03] <pjboro> TJ-: never :D Just ubuntu linux.
[16:04] <Wonny> Just Ubuntu here as well
[16:04]  * Wonny :)
[16:04] <TJ-> pjboro: in which case this may be controllable via ethtool
[16:05] <TJ-> pjboro: WoL modes appear to be disabled: "Wake-on: d" so I guess if anything this is due to low-power/power-saving modes
[16:06] <fub> TJ-: do I need a native windows to boot or can I do this from a VM?
[16:06] <Cybergrad> @James1138 Do you have the necessary hardware? A capture card may be used in conjunction with OBS Studio, or another AV software package.
[16:07] <TJ-> pjboro: the I219 chipset implements EEE (energy Efficient Ethernet) and I suspect this is the crux of the issue; it should - in cooperation with the OS - move in and out of low-power mode as required. It looks like it went to sleep and can't wake up
[16:07] <TJ-> fub: have you tried poing-flooding this wired interface from another PC?
[16:08] <TJ-> fub: I don't think you need Windows here, we just need to figure out how to solve the 'wake up sleepy Rx' issue
[16:09] <James1138> Cyvergrad: I have capture hardware from my Windoze (yuck) machine. It is "ADS Tech". I wondered if any software is compatible or start shopping online.
[16:09] <visone> anyone use irssi?
[16:10] <James1138> "Cybergrad" - sorry for misspell
[16:10] <visone> don´t remmber how to auto-identify my nick
[16:11] <fub> TJ-: mh, so I need to ping the MAC, right?
[16:11] <fub> because I dont have an IP yet
[16:11] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/kb/answer/irssi
[16:12] <visone> OerHeks: thanks¡
[16:13] <TJ-> fub: try this: "sudo ethtool --set-eee enx0050b68c5e50 eee off "
[16:13] <TJ-> fub: on the problem PC ^^^
[16:14] <Cybergrad> @James1138 If you're using ADS Tech' DVD Express DX2, you should be fine to use OBS Studio or another AV package which has recording features. The DVD Express DX2 is 'plug & play', meaning it doesn't need a specialized driver to interact with Microsoft Windows, and hence shouldn't need one for Unix systems as well.
[16:14] <TJ-> fub: if possible, before you issue that command, show us "pastebinit <( sudo ethtool --show-eee enx0050b68c5e50 )"
[16:15] <James1138> Cybergrad... OBS Studio has built-in video capture software?
[16:17] <NerdTheThird> can anyone tell me default fonts in firefox on ubuntu?
[16:18] <NerdTheThird> well, "default"
[16:19] <OerHeks> comic sans 16 ?
[16:19] <Wonny> Ubuntu uses Ubuntu, Ubuntu Regular, Sans Regular, and Ubuntu Mono Regular for Window Titles, Interfaces, Documents, and Monospace.
[16:19] <Wonny> NerdTheThird, in that order.
[16:19] <Cybergrad> Yes; consult the manual for instruction. You'll have to determine which device identifier your hardware is given. When you launch OBS, you'll add a 'source' (being a Video Capture Device), and then configure that source to use your hardware. Then you'll begin recording (you may want to change the settings first to optimize file size for VHS; you don't need 4K or 1080p - you'll want interlacing, possibly) in OBS Studio, and play VHS.
[16:20] <fub> TJ-: before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MDnZ9Jr3mK/
[16:21] <NerdTheThird> thank you very much bro Wonny
[16:21] <fub> TJ-: the sudo eththool --show-eee now hangs
[16:21] <kreyren> Hey what version of playonlinux is present on lubuntu 16.04.3 LTS ?
[16:21] <kreyren> (i cant find it, helping community member)
[16:21] <leftyfb> kreyren: it's part of the multiverse repo
[16:22] <kreyren> and the version?
[16:22] <Cybergrad> @kreyren If it's installed by default, 'apt-cache showpkg playonlinux' should give the version currently installed, or available.
[16:22] <fub> TJ-: so this crashed my whole machine now
[16:22] <fub> had to hard reset
[16:23] <kreyren> noted, thanks
[16:23] <OerHeks> their site gives a newer version https://www.playonlinux.com/script_files/PlayOnLinux/4.3.4/PlayOnLinux_4.3.4.deb
[16:24] <TJ-> fub: what did, the ethtool command?
[16:24] <TJ-> fub: that suggests the device really did get itself into a poor state.
[16:25] <TJ-> fub: try running that command as soon as the PC has rebooted, whilst the NIC is working corretly
[16:25] <TJ-> fub: the command being the --set-eee off
[16:26] <kreyren> how do you install python 2.7.12 on ubuntu?
[16:26] <fub> TJ-: worked, the state is now "disabled"
[16:26] <fub> and I can e xecute the -show-eee without a hang.
[16:27] <fub> is this setting persistent?
[16:27] <TJ-> fub: OK, so now you wait and monitor it. If the failure no-longer occurs we need to find a way to apply that at start up
[16:27] <fub> ok
[16:27] <hggdh> kreyren: python 2.7 is the default python on Xenial
[16:27] <kreyren> hggdh: seems that end-user have 2.7.12-1 i believe that its causing the issue https://www.playonlinux.com/en/topic-15530-playonlinux_wonat_start.html
[16:28] <TJ-> fub: there are additional set-eee options that can independently control the Rx and Tx sides, and set timers on them, but I think for now unless you really want to save power, just turn it off (the difference is 500mW vs 50mW)
[16:29] <James1138> Cybergrab. OBS Studio says my GPU is not supported and will not run. I am trying to run OBS Studio on my Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad T500 laptop. I did not think anything could be more compatible than Lenovo/IBM.
[16:29] <fub> TJ-: okay
[16:30] <fub> I will wait now and see what happens
[16:30] <hggdh> kreyren: python and python2.7 should point to the same binary. Is this true on your system?
[16:30] <TJ-> fub: I'm trying to find the recommended way to apply this at start-up
[16:31] <kreyren> hggdh: i'm using gentoo it requires wgpython:3.0 with python2_7 https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/10719/commits/d4f78102078d7149c35ea567360b767bf78925cb which is working
[16:31] <kreyren> but im on different version ..
[16:32] <OerHeks> POL does not require python 2.7 here on 18.04
[16:33] <kreyren> if you have POL installed can you share output od `sudo apt list --installed` ?
[16:33] <kreyren> *of
[16:36] <Cybergrad> @James1138 can you provide the output of the command: "lspci | grep vga", please? Also, what is the message provided by OBS Studio?
[16:37] <OerHeks> poh, surprise, it does, even as 18.04 is fullly python3 -- python (>= 2.7.5-5~) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic/arm64/playonlinux/4.2.12-1
[16:38] <Cybergrad> @James1138 Sorry, please ensure 'vga' is capitalized to 'VGA'.
[16:38] <OerHeks> !info python 2.7 bionic
[16:38] <OerHeks> !info python2.7 bionic
[16:40] <TJ-> fub: looks like we need a UDEV rule adding, so lets collect some info I can use for that. Show me "pastebinit <( udevadm trigger -a add /sys/class/net/enx0050b68c5e50 )"
[16:40] <Cybergrad> @James1138 If you find OBS Studio is entirely incompatible with your GPU or other hardware setup, try KDEnlive, or Lightworks. Both are freely available for personal use. KDEnlive is included in the Ubuntu Software Repositories.
[16:42] <fub> TJ-: the return value of this command is empty
[16:44] <James1138> Cybergrad - "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[16:45] <TJ-> fub: hmmm, did I type it wrong I wonder? I tested it on an interface here. Let me compare
[16:45] <TJ-> fub: Aha, I did :D  "pastebinit <( udevadm test-a add /sys/class/net/enx0050b68c5e50 )"
[16:46] <TJ-> grrr and another typo!
[16:46] <TJ-> fub: Aha, I did :D  "pastebinit <( udevadm test -a add /sys/class/net/enx0050b68c5e50 )"
[16:46] <James1138> Gybergrad. I install OBS Studio using Synaptic package manager and tried to run it by clicking on OBS Studio in the start menu
[16:46] <fub> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KZq8D46Gm8/
[16:47] <fub> there was also some output on stderr, should I paste this aswell?
[16:47] <TJ-> fub: hang on, this is a USB device, is that correct?
[16:48] <fub> TJ-: It's a thunderbolt docking station, so I guess yes.
[16:49] <TJ-> fub: hmmm, because I read the earlier pastebin output and the lspci info and assumed this is an Intel I219 device, but that is on the PCI bus, not USB, so if --set-eee off has worked on this USB device, I'm surprised :D
[16:53] <fub> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KS6XPFrdJD/
[16:53] <fub> looks like it worked :D
[16:56] <visone> anyone use a vpn?
[16:56] <SlidingHorn> visone: what's your actual question?
[16:56] <TJ-> fub: this is what should fix it at start-up:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S5bHY8t6T7/
[16:57] <visone> in a few days i move out to Doha, Qatar
[16:57] <visone> to work and i need one
[16:58] <SlidingHorn> visone: pretty much any VPN provider will work with OpenVPN, which is available in the repositories
[16:58] <Cheez> i'd imagine most public vpn providers are blocked in Qatar though, they have very restrictive internet filtering in place.
[16:59] <myself> Some article on the web probably knows this better than we do.
[16:59] <TJ-> visone: you may need to rent a VPS and configure a VPN server there, something like wireguard (very simple) or openvpn (can be more complex, but common)
[17:01] <Cybergrad> @James1138 Your chipset is likely too old to support the version of OpenGL OBS requires. See if Lightworks will run on your machine. It is a professional software package however, and you need to register an account to use it for personal use. It also requires OpenGL, if I recall but you should check what version it requires and what version your chipset actually does support (I had trouble finding that information).
[17:01] <visone> to all the answers, i know, i already check those
[17:01] <visone> i ment about performance
[17:02] <Cybergrad> @James1138 I would search alternativeto.net for some software recommendations. I'm not sure what packages might be compatible with your system; I don't see anything useful in Ubuntu Software right now.
[17:03] <visone> bandwith,rate,security,etc
[17:03] <fub> TJ-: thanks, I will monitor if this fixed it and try this. Thanks a lot!
[17:04] <pjboro> TJ-: I have one more question about LUKS; maybe you could help me out with this one as well: I have added lines for mounting the LUKS partition in crypttab and fstab. When setting in options `auto` the password is always required. With no-auto there is no prompt. Is it possible to ask for the password and mount the partition only if the password is correct, otherwise boot without mounting it? Thanks for
[17:04] <pjboro> your time!
[17:04] <m27> What's the best Flow Diagram tool for Ubuntu?
[17:07] <TJ-> pjboro: well, crypttab and fstab are different things. For fstab "noauto" means that when "mount --all" is called a start-up, that entry isn't started. You have to specifically do "mount /my/mountpoint"
[17:07] <TJ-> pjboro: the default in an fstab entry is "auto" so the system will always try to mount it
[17:08] <rory> I had a dog like that
[17:10] <SlidingHorn> visone: that's mostly going to depend upon the provider
[17:12] <pjboro> TJ-: Yes, I do understand that. I wonder if there is an option to go ahead and boot the system without providing the password for LUKS, when 'auto' is set in both files. It's an additional hard drive, separate from the root filesystem.
[17:12] <pjboro> Maybe I can overwrite the `auto` option in GRUB somehow?
[17:13] <pjboro> I'm googling, but to no avail.
[17:14] <TJ-> pjboro: no, because 'auto' infers you want the system init to unlock and mount the file-system
[17:15] <TJ-> visone: wireguard is very fast, almost line-rate. Much faster than openvpn for example
[17:17] <pjboro> TJ-: well, I was afraid you will say something like that ;) Thanks anyway.
[17:17] <visone> TJ-:i have both
[17:18] <visone> have no problem with instalations, config, etc, my ask was about the vpn performance itself
[17:18] <TJ-> visone: I much prefer wireguard now
[17:21] <visone> i tryed both and i prefer ovpn
[17:22] <TJ-> I saw a difference of 2Mbps (openvpn) vs 10Mbps (wireguard) on the same link
[17:22] <TJ-> That was with openvpn UDP mode, the same as wireguard
[17:24] <visone> the difference i saw was +-300kb
[17:25] <TJ-> visone: what was the max link speed ?
[17:25] <visone> ftp on a t1
[17:26] <TJ-> Is T1 stilla thing!? Not seen one of those in 20 years!
[17:27] <TJ-> so 300KB diff on a 1500KB max is about 20% difference
[17:27] <TJ-> oops Kb not KB there
[17:47] <tomreyn> maybe visone meant tier-1
[17:47] <tomreyn> as in network environment
[17:50] <visone> if i honest, i dont´t know
[17:50] <visone> i configured the vpn for a biologist friend
[17:51] <tomreyn> then my guess is on the NIC model / vendor
[17:51] <visone> so he can upload dna samples to the university
[17:52] <visone> i configured both, and told him to used, to see wich one were faster
[17:52] <visone> and he told me that ovpn were 300kb/s slower than the other
[17:53] <James1138> Uploading DNA samples... be on the alert for a possible visit by Mulder and Sculley from "X-Files"... depending on the results...
[17:53] <visone> xdddd
[17:53] <visone> flowers dna

[17:54] <visone> moss to be more precise
[17:58] <dserodio> I'm getting "Timeout error" when submitting a new bug report in Launchpad.
[18:01] <tomreyn> dserodio: please /join #launchpad
[18:04] <TJ-> dserodio: Just been looking at the Launchpad twitter feed summary, and its humorous that the link to launchpad.net on there is actually shorter than the URL-shortener they've used (t.co) - no reports of outage there
[18:05] <dserodio> tomreyn: will do, thanks
[18:14] <_Sym_> I'm using 18.04 and I have installed latest virtualbox from ppa. Now I keep seeing gnome-software complain with this message. https://pastebin.com/wiyHPhJb  Is there a way I can fix this log spam?
[18:17] <_Sym_> What does "gnome-software[5357]: ignoring non-installed app GsApp:" mean
[18:17] <OerHeks> file a bug againt virtualbox to the ppa owner
[18:17] <OerHeks> c/against
[18:17] <SlidingHorn> _Sym_: not sure - PPAs are unsupported third-party software, so you  may need to check with the PPA's dev
[18:18] <OerHeks> using that ppa makes you a test object
[18:18] <_Sym_> Is that a common message from gnome-software?
[18:19] <OerHeks> no, but what did you give as command to get this as output?
[18:19] <OerHeks> i wonder why people "forget" to copy the command used
[18:19] <_Sym_> I think it happens when gnome-software checks for updates, then it writes that message to syslog
[18:19] <_Sym_> I didn't do any command
[18:20] <OerHeks> oke, put that in your bugrepost, we cannot do anything else about this
[18:20] <WoC> _Sym 5.2.18 is not current
[18:20] <_Sym_> I'm using virtualbox 6.0
[18:21] <_Sym_> and the package name is different than the one in ubuntu
[18:21] <WoC> Ok, using their ppa ?
[18:21] <OerHeks> did you remove the old Vbox?
[18:21] <_Sym_> i never installed the old one
[18:21] <OerHeks> oh oke, just checking
[18:21] <_Sym_> virtualbox-6.0
[18:21] <_Sym_> thats what the ppa has
[18:22] <WoC> _Sym, i would purge all the virtualbox packages and install virtualbox-6
[18:22] <_Sym_> yes, thats what I did WoC
[18:22] <WoC> thepaste was showing 5.2.18
[18:22] <_Sym_> oh
[18:22] <_Sym_> good catch
[18:23] <_Sym_> I had initially installed it and then purged it
[18:23] <WoC> No worres, try dpkg -l | grep -i virtualbox
[18:23] <SlidingHorn> "I never installed the old one"
[18:23] <_Sym_> it never installed
[18:23] <WoC> will show any and all virtualbox packages installed
[18:23] <_Sym_> because I was using a custom kernel at the time so it installed like half way
[18:23] <WoC> maybe it's half-way installed?
[18:23] <_Sym_> and failed during the install
[18:23] <_Sym_> yeas
[18:24] <_Sym_> but dpkg shows its not installed
[18:24] <OerHeks> noot installed, installed, custom kernel ... interresting, put that in your bugreport too.
[18:24] <OerHeks> :-D
[18:24] <WoC> just for kicks and giggles, try dpkg -l | grep -i virtualbox
[18:24] <OerHeks> really, what do you expect from the communty , support stuff we do not know about and you "forget to mention" ?
[18:24] <_Sym_> it shows "un" as status
[18:25] <WoC> apt purge <package>
[18:26] <_Sym_> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove virtualbox which isn't installed
[18:26] <_Sym_> I assumed I had purged it when the install failed
[18:26] <_Sym_> and it shows as not installed, but gnome-software it in a half way state
[18:26] <_Sym_> is there a way to clear the gnome-software db?
[18:26] <SlidingHorn> Well, regardless, we're well beyond the scope of this channel, as we're working with a "custom kernel" (which could be anything), a PPA, and a possibly mixed franken-install
[18:27] <_Sym_> I have everything working fine, so I'm not concerted about the kernel and virtualbox 6 is installed and working fine
[18:27] <_Sym_> I was just wondering how I could fix that message with gnome-software
[18:28] <OerHeks> good luck, try a reinstall
[18:28] <_Sym_> like reinstall gnome-software?
[18:28] <_Sym_> i could try that
[18:28] <_Sym_> but I don't think that would generate the package db over
[18:28] <OerHeks> no, fresh install ubuntu
[18:29] <_Sym_> yeah im sure that woujld fix it
[18:29] <_Sym_> but thats not really worth it
[18:29] <hexhaxtron> Hi! In Nautilus I'm missing the content of Create New Document. I think it's because I erased Templates from my home folder. Can someone send me a copy of Templates?
[18:30] <_Sym_> I know..
[18:30] <WoC> _Sym, i would try purging the gnome-sortware first and re-install it
[18:30] <_Sym_> I think I should remove virtualbox
[18:30] <_Sym_> oh can I do that?
[18:31] <_Sym_> thats a good idea
[18:31] <SlidingHorn> hexhaxtron: see here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/777711/create-new-document-right-click-option-missing-in-ubuntu-gnome
[18:31] <WoC> Imho, yes
[18:32] <_Sym_> I was thinking or I can now boot back into stock kernel and install the one that failed over again and then purge it properly
[18:32] <_Sym_> I have some ideas now, thanks
[18:32] <WoC> np
[18:33] <hexhaxtron> SlidingHorn, can you send me the files in your ~/Templates/ folder?
[18:34] <OerHeks> that templates folder is 'empty'
[18:35] <OerHeks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1041732/how-do-i-restore-the-templates-folder-in-ubuntu-18-04
[18:36] <SlidingHorn> hexhaxtron: I don't use GNOME.
[18:36] <TJ-> hexhaxtron: are you using ubuntu-budgie?
[18:37] <TJ-> hexhaxtron: I notice the budgie-desktop-environment package installs some to /etc/skel/Templates/
[18:38] <fub> TJ-: network is still working here
[18:38] <fub> so looks good
[18:38] <TJ-> fub: good news then :)
[18:38] <TJ-> fub: I'll remember this for when we see problems like that with Intel I219 NICs too
[18:38] <fub> so this is a problem of the firmware? or which fault is this?
[18:40] <TJ-> fub: I think it's the firmware since it is dropping into low-power mode and not coming out
[18:41] <TJ-> fub: If I recall correctly, your logs showed the device is a Realtek 8192
[18:54] <curlyears> heigh hough
[18:57] <curlyears> On the page @ kicad.pcb.org the instructions tio download and install kicad for ubuntu tell you to openb the ubuntu saoftware manager, then click on "edit."  I have search, and I can find no option "edit" available on the screen softeware manager brings up.  Can someone point me to what UI am missing, please?
[18:58] <SlidingHorn> curlyears: Looks like their instructions are a little out of date.  You can follow their shell instructions, though.  Please be aware that PPAs are third-party software, and are not supported here
[18:59] <curlyears> SlidingHorn: OK.   Thanks for the tip
[18:59] <SlidingHorn> curlyears: by "software-manager" I believe they're talking about the "Software & Updates" application, however
[18:59] <curlyears> SlidingHorn: yes.  sorry
[19:00] <curlyears> the icon looks sort of like a brown brief case with a largiush capital "A" on it in white, with a small bit of red in the cross bar of the shape of the "A"
[19:01] <curlyears> direct quiote from the web page:  Open the Ubuntu Software Manager.
[19:01] <xzorb> Hello guys, I have a small problem on the sidebar. When I click some of the programs they do not open/maximize instead they get dragged around. My mouse is working perfectly. Here is a demonstration: http://0x0.st/sRNM.mkv
[19:03] <curlyears> xzorb: xzorb:  man, that has GOT to be irritating
[19:03] <xzorb> curlyears: this is making me insane....
[19:04] <curlyears> spmething not right about that vid.  The colors were off (All garish yellows and purples) and it was pretty heavily pixelated, not oto mention tyhe video (as opposed to any audio) was quite noisy
[19:06] <xzorb> yeah my monitor has a fairly small resolution and I didn't bother too much about the quality, I just wanted to demonstrate my problem quickly.
[19:06] <_Sym_> just wanted to say thanks again, WoC, OerHeks. I fixed the gnome-software db by removing the ppa package and rebooting to stock kernel and installing ubuntu version of virtualbox properly and then purging it properly.  Then I could reinstall the ppa package and its all good.
[19:06] <curlyears> well, it turns out that wasn't the "softwware and updates" package.  I did find it, though.  Still no "edit" option I can find (though it looks MUCH different)
[19:07] <WoC> _Sym_, good :)
[19:07] <curlyears> xzorb:  ok.  I just wanted you to know in case it siginified a problem
[19:07] <_Sym_> realizing it was ubuntu's package made it click
[19:08] <curlyears> still no joy?  Is there a kicad channel?
[19:08] <frib> I just installed 18.04 alongside Windows 10
[19:08] <curlyears> answer:  no
[19:09] <frib> how can I make the boot process default to grub?
[19:09] <OerHeks> _Sym_, have fun
[19:17] <_Sym_> WoC, OerHeks, Oh darn, I spoke too soon. The message from gnome-software is back again.  But this time I know the reason why.  Gnome software is complaining about the fact that the virtualbox ppa is using the same file name for the desktop file as Ubuntu's virtualbox package.  This normally would be fine, but the ppa decided to change the name of the virtualbox packge to a different name.  Thus, its not legal for two different package names to have
[19:17] <_Sym_> the same file, ie;
[19:17] <_Sym_> virtualbox-6.0: /usr/share/applications/virtualbox.desktop
[19:17] <_Sym_> virtualbox-qt: /usr/share/applications/virtualbox.desktop
[19:17] <_Sym_> thats whats wrong
[19:17] <_Sym_> the ppa has to change the name of the desktop files
[19:17] <_Sym_> and any other common files
[19:18] <_Sym_> so its not ubuntu's fault and gnome-software is just doing its job correctly
[19:19] <_Sym_> its the ppa
[19:19] <sassle> hi
[19:20] <_Sym_> now that I know, I'm just going to ignore it
[19:21] <sassle> Im looking for support with my network interface card in ubuntu
[19:21] <SlidingHorn> !details | sassle
[19:22] <sassle> its serial number is PN810M220
[19:22] <sassle> 0057469
[19:22] <sassle> SN179L20
[19:23] <sassle> 09P as in peter
[19:23] <sassle> wv86529z as in zebra
[19:23] <sassle> c82022
[19:23] <sassle> l8235b
[19:23] <sassle> 2003
[19:24] <sassle> 0153199
[19:24] <SlidingHorn> sassle: just throwing out random characters isn't helping at all...what is your problem, what is the make/model, what have you done so far to make it work, etc.?
[19:24] <SlidingHorn> sassle: also, the version and flavor of ubuntu will be helpful
[19:25] <sassle> the driver version is
[19:25] <sassle> 2023
[19:25] <sassle> .79
[19:25] <SlidingHorn> !enter | sassle
[19:25] <sassle> .525
[19:25] <sassle> .2018
[19:25] <sassle> and for that im asking 50 dollars
[19:26] <sassle> just ask for lou
[19:26] <sassle> lou sassle
[19:27] <SlidingHorn> !ops | sassle
[19:27] <sassle> whoa look at all these bidders
[19:28] <sassle> so whats the bids?
[19:28] <sassle> oh btw I also got a black and decker toaster
[19:29] <hggdh> sassle: please stop
[19:29] <sassle> the serial number is:
[19:29] <sassle> 99 8533z as in zebra
[19:29] <sassle> gl115
[19:30] <hggdh> sassle: if you want to discuss your quiet, please /join #buntu-ops
[19:30] <leftyfb> #ubuntu-ops
[19:30] <hggdh> leftyfb: indeed, sorry. sassle ^
[19:34] <frib> hi, how can I make my efi boot default to grub instead of Windows OS boot manager?
[19:34] <frib> i tried changing boot order with efibootmgr but that doesnt seem to work, the order just goes back to how it was
[19:40] <TJ-> frib: that suggest
[19:40] <TJ-> s
[19:40] <frib> TJ-, i think I figured out the problem
[19:40] <TJ-> frib: that suggests the PC firmware is resetting it
[19:40] <frib> HP models ignore the EFI command or something so I have to use an "ugly hack" to replace the windows efi file with grub efi file
[19:41] <TJ-> frib: sounds familiar, I think we've met that issue before
[19:41] <EriC^^> frib: is the ubuntu entry eve there?
[19:41] <EriC^^> *even
[19:41] <frib> EriC^^, in efibootmgr it's there yea
[19:41] <EriC^^> frib: oh, you could try just disabling the windows one
[19:42] <frib> EriC^^, I think it's a hardware issue
[19:42] <frib> first i'll see if the renaming hack worked
[19:42] <EriC^^> wait
[19:42] <EriC^^> i have like 4 hps dude
[19:42] <frib> wow nice
[19:42] <frib> https://askubuntu.com/questions/344688/how-to-point-to-grub-instead-of-windows-loader
[19:43] <EriC^^> sudo efibootmgr -A -b <boot number>
[19:43] <EriC^^> try that
[19:43] <EriC^^> it's worked for me
[19:43] <frib> ok but I already applied the above fix
[19:43] <frib> I will put your suggestion in my notes for next time
[19:43] <EriC^^> efibootmgr -a -b restores it
[19:43] <EriC^^> ok
[19:43] <frib> thanks EriC^^
[19:43] <EriC^^> no worries
[19:47] <frib> the renaming thing misdirects the efi file and it can't find correct image so nothing boots
[19:48] <EriC^^> frib: what actual steps did you follow? can you paste the link
[19:48] <frib> es for next time
 efibootmgr -a -b restores it
[19:49] <TJ-> frib: some firmware generates a hash of the boot-loader file and stores than in Flash, some call this "trusting"
[19:49] <frib> https://askubuntu.com/questions/344688/how-to-point-to-grub-instead-of-windows-loader
[19:49] <frib> TJ-, what do you think I should do?
[19:49] <TJ-> frib: without seeing the actual firmware up close it's difficult to recommend
[19:49] <EriC^^> frib: there's nothing in that link about renaming, im confused did you try to disable it using efibootmgr -A or not?
[19:50] <frib> EriC^^, : This procedure applies an ugly hack of a solution for the ugly problem of a broken EFI: It renames the Windows boot loader file and puts a copy of GRUB in its place
[19:50] <frib> EriC^^, I Was going to try disabling the windows OS bootloader now
[19:50] <frib> but it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[19:51] <EriC^^> frib: oh, boot repair sucks
[19:51] <EriC^^> i thought you manually renamed them
[19:51] <frib> I would like to try that
[19:51] <frib> not sure exactly what to replace
[19:51] <EriC^^> frib: are you in a live usb right now? or did you use F9 to boot into your actual ubuntu?
[19:52] <frib> F9 -- also I see these in /boot/efi/EFI/BOOTX64.CSV  fw  fwupx64.efi  grub.cfg  grubx64.efi  mmx64.efi  shimx64.efi
[19:52] <frib> so I assume just replace the windows efi file with grubx64.efi?
[19:52] <EriC^^> ok cool, type "sudo efibootmgr -v; sudo ls -lR /boot/efi" and paste the results in http://paste.ubuntucom
[19:53] <EriC^^> frib: no hold on
[19:53] <frib> i got you... dw
[19:54] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/73rHyQpwKm/
[19:54] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T7Vc3zN9X9/
[19:55] <EriC^^> ok looks like the windows entry is disabled right now (no * next to it)
[19:55] <frib> i believe I need to replace one of these
[19:55] <frib> bootmgfw.efi
[19:55] <frib> bootmgr.efi
[19:55] <frib> you think it's REALLY disabled?
[19:55] <frib> I can try to reboot..
[19:55] <EriC^^> frib: can you run that second one with "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi" ?
[19:55] <EriC^^> -l is imp to see the sizes to know which one is which
[19:55] <frib> ok
[19:56] <frib> why do you need sudo to ls
[19:56] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6jYMrmQkDs/
[19:56] <EriC^^> cause /boot/efi you can't read it in ubuntu 16.04+
[19:56] <frib> ok
[19:57] <frib> btw Idk why but my stuff is in an additional EFI folder on top of efi
[19:57] <frib> I think thats why boot-repair failed to replace the file correctly but whatever
[19:57] <EriC^^> frib: ok right now the files are switched, as you see shimx64.efi size is the same for bootmgfw.efi
[19:57] <EriC^^> no it's normal to be that
[19:57] <frib> oh ok
[19:57] <frib> well
[19:58] <frib> the boot fails as is
[19:58] <EriC^^> frib: try switching them back real quick, and try the windows disable thing
[19:58] <EriC^^> it could be cause you need to use grubx64.efi instead of shimx64.efi
[19:58] <frib> if the windows disable thin is working then that boot file won't get pointed to anywya
[19:58] <EriC^^> and disable secureboot
[19:58] <EriC^^> frib: type "mokutil --sb-state"
[19:58] <frib> it's disabled
[19:59] <EriC^^> ah right, good point
[19:59] <frib> ok i'm gona reboot
[19:59] <EriC^^> ok then just try restarting, see what happens
[20:02] <frib> EriC^^, it worked
[20:02] <EriC^^> frib: ok, cool, now to switch the files back so windows'll boot
[20:02] <frib> windows also boots and I dont know why lol
[20:02] <frib> maybe I Selected a different efi file from grub
[20:03] <EriC^^> frib: boot-repair might have added a custom entry to grub so it boots, i think that's how it does it
[20:03] <frib> well... I Could reinstall everything and just do it cleanly
[20:03] <frib> which I kinda want to do
[20:03] <frib> because I prefer to have my main linux partition as sda1
[20:03] <EriC^^> frib: type "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/{bkp,}bootmgfw.efi"
[20:04] <EriC^^> hmm, isnt sda1 the efi partition?
[20:04] <EriC^^> for both windows and ubuntu?
[20:04] <frib> does it have to be?
[20:05] <EriC^^> not really, i guess it depends on how big the disk is possibly, not sure
[20:06] <frib> I did sudo mv bkpbootmgfw.efi bootmgfw.efi
[20:06] <frib> but it doesnt matter i'm going to reinstall everything
[20:06] <EriC^^> frib: ok, also see what's in '/etc/grub.d/' boot-repair probably modded that
[20:06] <EriC^^> ok as you wish
[20:06] <frib> so..
[20:07] <frib> efibootmgr -A -b [windowsbootmgr]
[20:07] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:07] <frib> cool thanks
[20:07] <frib> maybe I won't see ya in a bit
[20:07] <frib> hehe
[20:07] <EriC^^> :)
[20:27] <cavac> I'm having trouble remapping the buttons on a USB footpedal to different keycodes.  Nothing worked.
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> cavac: Have you verified that the signals from the device are actually being seen?
[20:35] <strangerr> this official document https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openldap-server.html.en says if i set olcLogLevel to 'conns' i will see 'conns: <connection info>' in my log, but on 18.04 i do not see any 'conns:' entries in my logs. is the lts documentation out of date?
[20:35] <cavac> Sure. evtest shows the events, and pressing one the the 3 buttons inputs "a" "b" or "c" on the console.
[20:38] <pragmaticenigma> strangerr: I believe the documenation is up-to-date, you might be missing something in your configuration or haven't restarted a server to refresh the configuraiton file
[20:38] <cavac> Here is the evtest output: https://pastebin.com/mk8Lz4ng
[20:38] <ph88> anyone know how i can resolve this https://bpaste.net/show/b7e7c86a7e88 ?
[20:40] <cavac> Of course i can't be sure my udev config is correct, since *someone* decided to change udev for every LTS release and Google finds tons of different version of how to do it, None of them seems to work, though...
[20:41] <WoC> ph88, looks like you need to purge that 7.2.12-1+ubuntu18.04.1+deb.sury.org+1 and install the 7.2.10-0ubuntu1
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> cavac: If you use the GUI to setup key config, does that register the key presses?
[20:43] <cavac> Using the GUI would change mapping for all keyboard? I can't find any option to select individual devices. X is too high up AFAIK.
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> ph88: You appear to have a PPA enabled from another source, that PPA maintainer has included a package that conflict with the requirement from ubuntu's official channels. You need to remove that PPA in order to install.
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> cavac: I'm not certain either, udev seems almost too low level to me though
[20:44] <cavac> I know i can use the crappy chinese application on Windows, but in Linux i have to fight with braindead udev rules according to google.
[20:46] <cavac> X doesn't differentiate from which device a keyboard event comes in. To the best of my knowledge, i have to mangle the scancodes before X gets its grabby little hands on it.
[20:47] <cavac> I mean, yes, i could remap the "a" "b" and "c" keys in X, but that would make it sort of hard to write text or play games ;-)
[20:49] <pragmaticenigma> Starting to get a better picture cavac
[20:53] <ph88> pragmaticenigma, hhmm you're right .. this repo doesn't seem to have ext-xml https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=cosmic
[20:53] <ph88> maybe i just need to activate it in my php.ini
[20:53] <cavac> Ok, i think i got it: First line needs to be evdev:input:b0003v413Dp2107*
[20:55] <cavac> I tried the "evdev" instead of "keyboard" before. But it seems to be that the udev hwdb needs the hex ids in *upper* case, whereas all other tools report it in *lower* case.
[20:55] <pragmaticenigma> ph88: I would evaluate whether you need that PPA anymore. This channel doesn't support packages that are provided through PPAs for this reason. Unfortunately, until you restore the system back to using Ubuntu's official software channels, there is little I can offer to help
[20:55] <pragmaticenigma> cavac: Yes, case sensitivity is always a fun one
[20:58] <cavac> But given how the rules are specified, at least a warning like "your 4 digit hex number that we require to be 4 digits according to our documentation has only 3 digits" would be rather helpful.
[20:59] <cavac> pragmaticenigma: Thank for your help, talking to someone brought me to the right track!
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> cavac: happy to do what I can
[21:14] <prof2004> hi, can somebody help me to ckeck my jdbc installation, and get it up and running?
[21:16] <SlidingHorn> prof2004: that's probably something more fitting for #programming than here
[21:17] <prof2004> ok, will try, thanks
[21:33] <linuxgecko> i'm trying to to triage my ubuntu install(16.04), and get it booting via grub-efi instead of grub-pc. i've done it before but i'm getting an error i don't recall. what paste tool should i use to get a paste of the `apt -f install`
[21:34] <Bashing-om> !paste | linuxgecko
[22:01] <aum> Hi - after dist-upgrade from 16 to 18.04LTS, my system periodically hangs for a few seconds every couple of minutes - mouse pointer moves, but windows are completely unresponsive - any ideas for how to troubleshoot this?
[22:01] <itguys> aum: I would see if there's any spikes in resource usage
[22:01] <jcdutton> aum, disk accesses?
[22:01] <EriC^^> aum: try running "dmesg -w" in a terminal and see if it says anything while it happens
[22:01] <aum> itguys - first thing I checked - no spikes in resources
[22:02] <aum> system ran fine for years with ubuntu 16.x LTS
[22:21] <tomreyn> i'm installing ubuntu 18.04 on an uefi system with a gpt partition table and ESP on sda. after running update-grub and grub-install against sda, all i got in /boot/efi/ is EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi and EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI
[22:22] <tomreyn> i expected to find at least also EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg - but this file doesn't exist.
[22:26] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: pastebinit is having issues with me or vice versa.  how do i pastebinit the output of `apt -f install` ??
[22:35] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: The tool I use is "termbin" >> ' sudo apt -f install 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[22:43] <dexterfoo> what happened to ruby scripting in vim-gtk? it's gone in 18.04
[22:45] <OerHeks> !info vim-ruby
[22:46] <Surfer2011> hello, what does this error mean (usb 1-1.6: device not accepting address 5, error -32) ... or how can i fix it
[22:46] <splashd> hmm
[22:48] <OerHeks> dexterfoo, indeed, vim --version | grep -i ruby # gives me -ruby too
[22:48] <Surfer2011> it is a DVB-S USB stick ... that worked before
[22:49] <pjs> where are user umask's set? Strange for one specific user, their umask is 0002 and not 0022
[22:49] <dexterfoo> OerHeks: I have python and lua, and almost everything else. only ruby is gone :( and it was there in 16.04
[22:50] <OerHeks> dexterfoo, for short, build it yourself? https://askubuntu.com/a/1027301
[23:01] <Cybergrad> If it's been many hours since I asked a support question, may I ask again?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> Cybergrad: Yes, ask again after a reasonable amount of time has passed with no response :)
[23:03] <exell> Anyone familiar with cmake and openalpr?
[23:05] <SlidingHorn> exell: you're better off asking your actual question - if it's an Ubuntu support question and someone has an answer, they'll answer you
[23:05] <exell> thanks
[23:06] <exell> I have tried on 3 occasions to install openalpr but it continually bombs around 24% with the error In member function ‘alpr::AlprFullDetails alpr::AlprImpl::recognizeFullDetails(cv::Mat, std::vector<cv::Rect_<int> >)’:
[23:06] <exell>        cvtColor( img, grayImg, CV_BGR2GRAY );
[23:06] <exell>                                ^~~~~~~~~~~
[23:06] <exell> openalpr/CMakeFiles/openalpr.dir/build.make:86: recipe for target 'openalpr/CMakeFiles/openalpr.dir/alpr_impl.cpp.o' failed
[23:06] <exell> make[2]: *** [openalpr/CMakeFiles/openalpr.dir/alpr_impl.cpp.o] Error 1
[23:06] <exell> CMakeFiles/Makefile2:623: recipe for target 'openalpr/CMakeFiles/openalpr.dir/all' failed
[23:07] <Cybergrad> @Bashing-om Thanks for reply. I have a graphical issue with the accessibility magnifier/zoom in 18.10. I'm using a HD 5870 with the default drivers (a recent clean install from USB + updates & codecs). Can anybody reproduce the drawing issue?
[23:07] <Cybergrad> When enabled, the lower half of the system panel isn't drawn, but as the magnifier is dragged down the viewport, it is drawn. It's difficult to explain and I made a short (2:30) video to illustrate: https://youtu.be/e-dyflayDAg.
[23:08] <exell> I have all the nesessary dependancies, i have the latest version downloaded from git, it have tried googling the error or similar but it won't cmake.
[23:09] <OerHeks> !info openalpr
[23:10] <OerHeks> same as the source on github
[23:13] <exell> I need the python version @oerheks, and the git instructions says that I have to compile it with cmake, I can't apt-get or it won't work
[23:14] <hggdh> exell: you mean you need the package python-openalpr (or python3-openalpr)?
[23:16] <Cybergrad> Ah, I searched the forums before I made my thread last night but I found a related issue and a bug report. I'll check these out and see if I can generate any useful information for the developers.
[23:16] <exell> @hggdh python3 I have to interface openalpr with opencv and the instructions says to compile with cmake as the apt-get doesn't give the latest version and need ndarray class within openalpr
[23:18] <hggdh> exell: did you 'apt-get build-dep openalpr'? Anyway, the pieces of the error you posted are not conclusive, but it may well be you are missing a pre-req
[23:19]  * hggdh goes walk the dogs
[23:21] <exell> @hggdh > https://github.com/openalpr/openalpr/wiki/Compilation-instructions-(Ubuntu-Linux) the guide is at the bottom for Python. It crashes at cmake
[23:23] <bipul> How would i change my "Link speed" ?
[23:41] <SlidingHorn> bipul: what is making you think you need to do this, exactly?
[23:41] <bipul> Just for network testing.
[23:42] <SlidingHorn> bipul: what exactly are you trying to do?  I'm not understanding.
[23:45] <lordcirth_> bipul, ethtool might be able to do that
[23:46] <bipul> okay thank you.
[23:54] <hggdh> exell: again: did you run sudo apt-get build-dep openalpr?
[23:55] <hggdh> exell: I just dry-ran it on my laptop, and it stated it would install ~100 other devel packages
[23:55] <exell> yes. it asked for url parameters
[23:56] <hggdh> exell: what url parameters?
[23:56] <exell> don't know. I'll run again
[23:57] <exell> Sorry... it says URI's...
[23:57] <exell> You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[23:57] <exell> ^^ thats the message
[23:57] <hggdh> exell: is this a server, or a desktop?
[23:58] <exell> Desktop
[23:58] <exell> standard vanilla ubuntu running with cinnamon desktop


[02:40] <jtatum> Evenin'!
[02:40] <philballew> jtatum, hello
[02:41] <jtatum> Hey philballew!
[02:42] <jtatum> Hi akk
[02:42] <akk> hi jtatum
[02:57] <grantbow> hello all
[02:57] <jyo> hi
[02:57] <jledbetter> Hiya
[02:59] <philballew> so who wants a meeting about now?
[03:00] <jledbetter> Sounds good
[03:00] <grantbow> it's only election results :-)
[03:00] <philballew> Meeting time then
[03:00] <philballew> alright, so grantbow is right, nothing else is on the agenda but the election results.
[03:01] <jbermudes> philballew: Sorry I didn't get back to you in time, but I suppose in this case it didn't necessarily matter
[03:01] <philballew> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_a11eb43113dc669f
[03:01] <darthrobot`> Title: [CIVS poll result]
[03:01] <philballew> theres the results
[03:02] <akk> Congrats to our new leaders!
[03:02] <jledbetter> Congratulations :)
[03:02] <philballew> tl;dr pleia2 grantbow and philballew (thats me) have decided to take a go at this thing we call a Lo-Co.
[03:02] <philballew> thanks everyone for running
[03:02] <grantbow> Thank you philballew for running the election!
[03:03] <philballew> not a problem grantbow and everyone else
[03:03] <jtatum> Congratulations everyone, and thank you to all the nominees!
[03:04] <grantbow> +1
[03:04] <philballew> +1
[03:04] <philballew> so does anybody have anything else they want to add to the agenda or bring up?
[03:04] <grantbow> leadership I think is about action more than election - we have lots of leaders in our fair state
[03:05] <philballew> very much so.
[03:05] <jbermudes> Pasadena Ubuntu Hour is this Thursday at 6pm at Peet's Coffee on Lake & California
[03:06] <grantbow> pleia2 is blogging about her adventures in Ghana and uds.ubuntu.com
[03:06] <philballew> that sounds like a fun time.
[03:06] <philballew> pleia2, really has been everywhere lately.
[03:06] <grantbow> Copenhagen, Denmark sounded fun last week
[03:07] <grantbow> video and logs are online for those interested
[03:07] <philballew> i had to remote attend for the 4 days, and everyone seemed to be having a good time
[03:08] <jtatum> Time difference was a killer :(
[03:08] <jtatum> Couldn't make it with my work schedule
[03:08] <philballew> it was easy for people who are up at all hours of the day.
[03:09] <philballew> but for smart people who sleep that for sure hard.
[03:09] <philballew> *then
[03:10] <jtatum> Anyone hear rumors about UDS S?
[03:11] <philballew> yeah
[03:11] <philballew> going to be in america iirc
[03:12] <jtatum> Yes :)
[03:13] <jtatum> Heard three different rumors, one being Oakland again
[03:14] <philballew> who told you oakland jtatum
[03:15] <philballew> or what were the other rumors?
[03:16] <jtatum> I think Miami was one? I stopped paying attention after I heard Oakland :)
[03:16] <grantbow> lol
[03:18] <grantbow> anything else?
[03:21] <philballew> I think were all good.
[03:21] <philballew> Lets close this weeting
[03:21] <philballew> *meeting
[03:21] <philballew> Meeting closed!
[03:21] <jtatum> Thanks all :)
[03:22] <philballew> alright.
[03:22] <philballew> jtatum, sent you a pm.
[03:23] <grantbow> Thanks! I'm excited about the coming year.
[03:27] <pleia2> jtatum: thanks for your work on the leadership team this past year :)
[03:27] <philballew> +1
[03:27] <pleia2> grantbow and philballew congrats!
[03:27] <philballew> congrats to you as well.
[03:28] <pleia2> thanks
[03:29] <pleia2> and yeah, tons of UDS rumors
[03:29] <pleia2> I miss the days when the next location was announced at the end of the last uds
[03:29] <philballew> uds san diego.
[03:29] <philballew> i remember that.
[03:29] <philballew> still waiting for uds Hawaii.
[03:29] <pleia2> hehe
[03:30] <philballew> might actually fill out a decent sponsorship request.
[03:31] <philballew> pleia2,the next uds will probably just be like Orlando
[03:31] <philballew> where two back to back
[03:31] <pleia2> vancouver was one of the rumors too, so north america but not US
[03:32] <pleia2> I might actually be home from my honeymoon for UDS, but I won't have time to travel anywhere
[03:32] <pleia2> (and I have to get back to work anyway)
[03:32] <philballew> I herd it was mid may
[03:33] <philballew> like may 13 or something
[03:33] <pleia2> yeah
[03:33] <pleia2> something like that
[03:34] <philballew> alright, i'm out
[03:34] <pleia2> thanks for runing the meeting :)
[03:34] <philballew> anytime. Sunday is my easy day.
[07:11] <bkerensa> Congrats philballew !
[07:22] <bkerensa> philballew: it went offline
[07:23] <philballew> bkerensa, it wont officially start for like a half hour
[07:24] <bkerensa> lo,l
[17:15] <toddcnb> weird drops
[17:24] <raevol> i have no messaging menu after upgrading to 12.10 :(
[17:28] <dragon> ^ It the newest feature.
[17:28] <dragon> s/It/It's/
[17:40] <raevol> so i see
[17:40] <raevol> also i guess pidgin isn't integrated yet
[17:40] <raevol> always great to upgrade to less features :(
[21:25] <bkerensa> huh I just noticed Jono doesn't idle here anymore
[23:05] <pleia2> bkerensa: he hasn't idled here for a long time
[23:06] <pleia2> (logs say the last time he was here was January)
[23:06] <pleia2> with band, family and all he doesn't really do local Ubuntu events anymore
[23:07] <pleia2> philballew: can you announce the leadership results to the list when you have a moment?


[01:04] <snap-l> Evening
[17:20] <snap-l> Howdy.
[17:21] <brousch> just got back from parade
[17:22] <brousch> they're more fun with a kid
[17:37] <rick_h_> party
[17:37] <rick_h_> I got out of the parade again thankfully
[17:38] <rick_h_> kind of funny: http://goo.gl/L772b
[17:38] <rick_h_> I have no idea what 'book factory' he's talking about
[17:38] <rick_h_> and I wrote the stuff lol
[17:44] <snap-l> Yeah, I don't know what a book factory is either.
[17:45] <snap-l> But cool nonetheless.
[17:49] <snap-l> Seriously? Xubuntu requires 4.4GB of disk space?
[17:53] <rick_h_> it uses gnome in there :P
[17:53] <snap-l> Yeah, but stull
[17:53] <snap-l> still, even
[18:24] <snap-l> And lubuntu uses 5.3GB.
[18:24] <snap-l> What... the... fuck.
[18:25] <rick_h_> lubuntu?
[18:29] <snap-l> Supposed to be for lower-end machines
[18:29] <snap-l> LXDE-based
[18:30] <rick_h_> so what is this going onto that the 4/5gb is heavy?
[18:34] <snap-l> The old Eee
[18:34] <snap-l> at least that was the plan
[18:34] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[18:34] <rick_h_> crunchbang?
[18:34] <snap-l> I'm downloading 10.04LTS
[18:45] <dekkard> Probs with natty and Intel graphics?
[18:46] <rick_h_> not that I know of, but not running it so not 100% sure
[18:46] <rick_h_> I thought intel was supposed to work ok
[18:49] <brousch> dekkard: i've only had probs with second monitors
[18:49] <dekkard> I get no display illumination
[18:49] <dekkard> Its there
[18:49] <dekkard> Just black
[18:50] <dekkard> Pissin me off
[19:08] <snap-l> And the LTS thata I put onto my USB key won't boot
[19:12] <rick_h_> lovely
[19:55] <brousch> snap-l: booting from usb on the eee is always a little annoying
[19:56] <snap-l> Well, this has been especially so.
[19:56] <snap-l> Bah
[22:25] <brousch> dangit. i just had the screen go black on me after screensaver. nothing would bring it back. i had to reboot
[22:26] <brousch> i hate how all of the little bugs annoy me


[14:05] <yggdrasi1> hello all
[14:14] <yggdrasi1> I have some issue using the USB blutooth dongle CC2540 from TI. It will be not recognized by ubuntu.
[14:14] <yggdrasi1> [538509.561120] usb 3-1: new full-speed USB device number 44 using xhci_hcd
[14:14] <yggdrasi1> [538509.580009] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=16b3
[14:14] <yggdrasi1> [538509.580017] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[14:14] <yggdrasi1> [538509.580021] usb 3-1: Product: CC2540 USB Dongle
[14:14] <yggdrasi1> [538509.580024] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Texas Instruments
[14:15] <yggdrasi1> bluetooth             391136  24 bnep,ath3k,btusb,hci_uart,rfcomm
[14:15] <yggdrasi1> from lsmod
[14:15] <yggdrasi1> having added a udev rule
[14:16] <yggdrasi1> reloaded the cdc_asm module
[14:16] <yggdrasi1> but don't firing me up the ttyACM0 interface
[14:16] <yggdrasi1> did one of you have an idea?
[14:30] <ogra_> yggdrasi1, on your PC ?
[14:30] <yggdrasi1> yes
[14:31] <yggdrasi1> but it's a usb dongle
[14:31] <ogra_> well, cdc_acm should theoretically just catch it without any udev hackery
[14:31] <yggdrasi1> also try without it
[14:31] <ogra_> ask the kernel team
[14:31] <ogra_> in #ubuntu-kernel
[14:32] <yggdrasi1> thx


[06:59] <jldugger-tablet> well theres a handy topic
[07:00] <jldugger-tablet> I'm looking to replace bitmap icons with .svg
[07:00] <jldugger-tablet> (in ubuntu packages)
[07:01] <jldugger-tablet> does anyone know if there's a policy or anything I should read before starting?
[19:30] <psyke83> kwwii, how's the new theme coming along?
[19:31] <kwwii> psyke83: good, it will be included by default tomorrow
[19:33] <psyke83> kwwii, awesome. Just one thing to note, though. Did you remove the workaround in section "murrine-default" for bg[SELECTED]? It's necessary for the old Human Metacity theme to emulate the caramel colour, but it may mess up newer metacity themes
[19:34] <psyke83> (remember, there was a problem with Gnome Appearance Properties when it was rendering Metacity incorrectly)
[19:34] <psyke83> sorry I didn't mention that earlier
[20:57] <kwwii> psyke83: hrm, I was playing around with the bg[selected] definition but yesterday I put it back to be like the gtkrc you sent me
[20:57] <kwwii> sorry for the lag, I am chatting while watching football :-)
[21:03] <psyke83> kwwii, I'm working on a fix for bug #237261 for all the themes. The fix is very simple for Human-Murrine and Human-Clearlooks, but Human needs some reworking. It's related to what I mentioned. Anyway I'll ping or email you when it's done, enjoy the game :)
[21:19] <louie000> hello
[21:20] <louie000> if i'm like to made an Artwork, what's the first step?
[21:41] <kwwii> psyke83: excellent, thanks
[21:41] <kwwii> hehe, perhaps a bit of patience would be the first thing he needs
[21:42] <psyke83> ;)
[21:49] <psyke83> kwwii, these fixes are for Hardy, do you want me to email them to you, or attach to the bug report?
[21:55] <kwwii> psyke83: you can send them directly to me..I asked about pacthing the themes to fix this bug and they gave me the go ahead
[21:56] <psyke83> ok
[22:11] <psyke83> kwwii, hmm, I actually can't reproduce this bug for Human-Murrine or Human-Clearlooks, but I'll check it some more
[22:12] <kwwii> cool, let me know whenever you feel happy with what you've got and I'll see that it happens
[22:52] <psyke83> kwwii, I sent the updates for Hardy, and in a second mail the same update for the Human-Murrine (Intrepid version with old colours)
[23:28] <kwwii> psyke83: got both of them, thnx
[23:29] <kwwii> I might ping you tomorrow if I have any questions when packaging
[23:29] <psyke83> kwwii, np, and I'll be around tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing the new theme
[23:29] <kwwii> cool :-)
[23:32] <kwwii> off to bed for tonight, see you