[00:01] <dag_> can anyone help. I have an Hp Pavillion DV6647cl and suddenly the BIOS won't boot from CD/DVD anymore
[00:01] <dag_> it boots fine from USB/HD though
[00:01] <dag_> can anyone help. I have an Hp Pavillion DV6647cl and suddenly the BIOS won't boot from CD/DVD anymore
[00:01] <dag_> it boots fine from USB/HD though
[00:03] <ubuntu> Okay so anyway to download again and burn cd again
[00:03] <ubuntu> while using the cd trial mode?
[00:03] <ubuntu> since there is no cmmand to install form the web
[00:04] <daraxa> hello
[00:05] <daraxa> i am using a ntfs-3g partition as /home (mounted as /home)
[00:06] <daraxa> what problems do you think I can have?
[00:07] <carpii> why did you choose that?>
[00:08] <daraxa> i need a good convivence between Windows & Linux
[00:08] <carpii> dual boot?
[00:08] <daraxa> yes, and I do not want to be forced to have two partitions for data
[00:09] <carpii> ok, just wondered
[00:09] <carpii> its been around for a couple of years, it may be that youll have no real problems
[00:09] <carpii> i dont really know how itd handle symlinks tho
[00:10] <lovre> new version of kaffeine has no subtitles support?
[00:10] <catamarque> is anyone else having problems with kopete and facebook?
[00:11] <JuJuBee> daraxa: have you considerd using virtualbox for windows ?  You can map your /home (or any other folder for that matter) into the windows OS great... no extra software needed and never need to reboot
[00:12] <daraxa> JuJuBee: games not work very well in virtualbox, neither in wine
[00:13] <JuJuBee> I agree
[00:13] <JuJuBee> Certainly depends on the apps yo need to run
[00:13] <JuJuBee> I have dual boot and vm solution but only use dualboot when I game.. then I don't care about my documents...
[00:14] <marcello__> ok
[00:16] <lovre> is there a video player alternative to kaffeine that supports drag and drop for subtitle files?
[00:16] <JJman> VLC  perhaps
[00:19] <MTGap_> I have the koffice backports in my sources.list but I haven't gotten any updates since Beta 2
[00:19] <MTGap_> has anyone else been able to update to koffice 2.1 rc 1
[00:26] <bobleny> Hey, there is a command that goes something like, "lsshaw". Amoung other things it lists all my network information that I need to find drivers for my wireless network card. Does anyone know what im talking about?
[00:27] <bobleny> I'm trying to get ndiswrapper to work with my card. I need to know the make and modle of the wireless card installed in my laptop.
[00:28] <Dragnslcr> lshw maybe?
[00:29] <bobleny> Yeah, that's it!
[00:30] <bobleny> I don't know why I can't remember that.
[00:30] <bobleny> Thanks.
[00:31] <dag_> it keeps saying "Package already installed" when I try to install Firefox. What can I do
[00:32] <BluesKaj> dag, your trying to open the installer , not the browser, try firefox in the run box, alt+f2
[00:33] <tiengo> I'm problems with my sound in Kubuntu 9.10
[00:34] <Blizzerand> How do I edit menu.lst ( and where can I find it ) in grub 1.97 beta4
[00:34] <tiengo> y sound stopped working out of nowhere
[00:35] <MTGap_> I have the koffice backports in my sources.list but I haven't gotten any updates since Beta 2
[00:35] <MTGap_> Anyone been able to get to koffice 2.1 rc 1
[00:35] <Blizzerand> Can anyone help me ??
[00:37] <tiengo>
[00:37] <tiengo> someone help me? My sound stopped working from scratch in kubuntu 9:10
[00:38] <daniel_san> is it your flash sound? in the sound mixer theres a PCM slider now
[00:39] <tiengo>
[00:39] <tiengo> No, the sound of the general system
[00:41] <tiengo> daniel_san: happened suddenly, the sound applications warn malfunction
[00:44] <tiengo> Anybody know this problem?
[00:47] <lovre> can i set kmail to remeber kwallet password so he doesnt have to prompt me every time
[00:47] <MTGap_> have you restarted yet tiengo
[00:48] <tiengo> yes, but the problem continue
[00:48] <MTGap_> oh okay that usually fixed my issues
[00:49] <MTGap_> Are you using pulseaudio tiengo
[00:49] <tiengo> MTGap_: no
[00:50] <MTGap_> Okay well go to system settings - > multimedia , there's a test button in there see what happens
[00:51] <tiengo> MTGap_:
[00:51] <tiengo> ok
[00:52] <MTGap_> Just click on the different devices in that window and then test. It should play a sound
[00:53] <tiengo> MTGap_: the three options do not criticize the operation
[00:53] <MTGap_> What?
[00:54] <tiengo> MTGap_: the three options accuse problem
[00:54] <MTGap_> They say there is a problem?
[00:55] <tiengo> MTGap_: 	yes, appears an error message
[00:55] <tiengo> when I click to test
[00:56] <bbt> my taskbar panel is gone -- how do i get it back?
[00:58] <avihay> bbt: you can either recreate it, or reset your kde4 settings
[00:59] <tiengo> MTGap_: sorry for my english :P
[00:59] <MTGap_> I don't know tiengo, make a post on ubuntu forums...
[00:59] <MTGap_> you could also try sudo alsamixer
[01:00] <MTGap_> just to make sure none of your speakers are muted
[01:00] <tiengo> MTGap_: the alsamixer don't open
[01:00] <MTGap_> oh well that's probably the issue then
[01:00] <MTGap_> some update probably messed it up
[01:00] <bbt> avihay, how do i reset?
[01:01] <avihay> ok, lets just make sure we are on the same page. your desktop is fine, and you have applets on it, but you played with the panel and now it's gone?
[01:02] <tiengo> MTGap_:  I believe so, because the problems occur after an upgrade
[01:02] <bbt> i have no applets
[01:02] <avihay> or did the applet just crash
[01:02] <MTGap_> bbt You can just make a new panel by right clicking and add new panel
[01:02] <MTGap_> or do you mean the system tray
[01:03] <tiengo> MTGap_: when I try to open alsamixer, the following message appears
[01:03] <bbt> everything is gone, and when i add new applet it is a box
[01:03] <MTGap_> Try deleting the folder .kde in your home directory and then end the session
[01:03] <MTGap_> That will bring you back to the default settings
[01:04] <bbt> tried that and rebooted and same issue
[01:04] <tiengo> MTGap_: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[01:04] <MTGap_> Yeah okay try doing sudo apt-get install alsa-base
[01:05] <tiengo> MTGap_: alsa-base already installed
[01:06] <MTGap_> hmm I don't know sorry
[01:06] <tiengo> MTGap_: I'll try this solution
[01:06] <tiengo> one moment
[01:07] <tiengo> I restart
[01:07] <avihay> bbt, well, that was my solution (deleteing the .kde folder)
[01:07] <bbt> i just get floating panels
[01:07] <bbt> this is weird
[01:09] <avihay> if you right click the background, can you pick the option add panel?
[01:10] <rudy_> sup
[01:10] <bbt> avihay, yes, panel appears to be vertical on right side???
[01:11] <avihay> ok, you can move it
[01:11] <jepong> hello... anyone using msi wind u100 and kubuntu here?
[01:12] <avihay> just click the plasma yin and yang symbol, and you'll have an option called screen edge
[01:14] <Fanfare> hi folks, usb-creator-kde doesnt work with kubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso on my usb-thumb... after formating /dev/sdX /dev/sdX1 has no free space left?
[01:17] <bbt> avihay, ok i sort of got it back just have to add the widgets, thanks
[01:20] <dag_> can anyone help? Firefox won't install when I try using the install option in the internet menu
[01:28] <ultiLinux> Does anyone know whether I can install OpenOffice.org after installing Kubuntu?
[01:28] <ultiLinux> will it work as well as it should?
[01:40] <MTGap> I'm trying to get koffice to update to 2.1 rc 1 can anyone help me. I have the backports in my sources.list but it isn't updating
[01:40] <MTGap> at the moment I have 2.1 beta 2
[01:44] <suman> hi guys, what can i use to play .mid files in ubuntu??
[01:45] <karlw> Hi, I'm having trouble getting KDE to start. I think it's related to this bug: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/unassigned-bugs/2008-March/001046.html
[01:45] <ybeddyj> how do i reset the kde taskbar
[01:47] <karlw> Also, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=452053and
[01:51] <karlw> It's not that urgent, I just want KDE again.
[01:53] <karlw> suman: Install timidity
[01:53] <suman> karlw: got it, thanks..
[01:54] <karlw> You're welcome.
[01:58] <compilerwriter> Is there yet a way to right click upon the desktop and then have the programs menu show up?  I've been looking for it in the settings but can't seem to find the correct one.
[01:59] <karlw> You mean like Fluxbox?
[01:59] <compilerwriter> yes karlw you have it precisely.  That is one feature I like about fluxbox.
[02:00] <compilerwriter> I just wish I could get lancelot to pop up with the right click upon the desktop.
[02:00] <karlw> There may be a way to add that feature in QtScript...
[02:02] <compilerwriter> karlw: that is beyond my capabilities.
[02:31] <alesan> hi, whre is adept in the newest kubuntu?
[02:31] <alesan> I DO NOT FIND IT
[02:32] <alesan> ops
[02:32] <alesan> sorry for the caps
[02:39] <monte48lowes> adept is no longer included
[02:39] <monte48lowes> kpackageit has replaced it
[02:40] <tsimpson> !info adept karmic
[02:40] <tsimpson> it's still there, just not default
[02:40] <monte48lowes> yes, I meant to say that it's not installed
[02:45] <Guest13162> anyone know a good channel for netbook support for Kubuntu?
[02:47] <tsimpson> DruidGeek: there is #kubuntu-netbook but you should be able to get most support here
[02:57] <default> hi all.  How can I reduce GTK fonts in kubuntu?  They are displayign much bigger than proper KDE size.
[02:58] <tsimpson> default: try from System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance
[02:58] <tsimpson> you can set it to use KDE fonts or set a custom font style
[02:59] <default> tsimpson: yep alrady done that and it's set to use kde
[02:59] <default> tsimpson: all the apps that use GTK are displaying big fonts, when my kde system fonts are 8pt and 9pt.  GTK should eb using KDE's sizes.
[03:00] <tsimpson> it should
[03:00] <promise> hola amigos!
[03:00] <promise> I was playing around with my ubuntu desktop settings
[03:00] <promise> and I need to get them back to factory defaults
[03:00] <promise> I lost my start button equivalent of windows :(
[03:00] <FloodBotK1> promise: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <promise> do what? Im just typing lol
[03:01] <promise> sry, flood bot got me :P
[03:01] <promise> hi jepong
[03:01] <default> Another problem I ahve it I can't play videos.  Since Dragonp
[03:01] <jepong> promise: hello
[03:01] <default> Another problem I ahve it I can't play videos.  Since Dragonplayer wanted to uplaod codecs it's stopped video.  I reinstalled system because of same problem
[03:01] <freaky[t]> anyone here using smooth tasks?
[03:02] <default> any solutions?
[03:02] <promise> are you experienced much with ubuntu?
[03:02] <promise> don't hate me :(
[03:02] <jepong> default: just install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:03] <default> jepong: I think you mean get ffmpeg.  I have the proper codecs instaleld but it seems to be corrupt after doing default choices
[03:04] <default> jepong: ok doing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:05] <jepong> i really don't experiement much with my installation... i just get the medibuntu repos and install kubuntu-restricted-extras... video work fine using dragon player
[03:06] <jepong> i'm a kubuntu newbie so i really know that much... i came from ubuntu/gnome
[03:06] <freaky[t]> how do i enable medibuntu repos?
[03:06] <carpii> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+do+i+enable+medibuntu+repos%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[03:07] <jepong> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:07] <freaky[t]> can i use it with kubuntu?
[03:07] <jepong> yes...
[03:08] <jepong> i think so
[03:08] <jepong> :D
[03:08] <promise> well for videos and audio try going to mysapce.com then they usually have this thing you have to click which says download required programs
[03:08] <promise> I mean upgrades
[03:08] <carpii> i dont think thats the best advice really
[03:10] <promise> jesus, whats wrong with the 90 seconds ping?
[03:10] <jepong> what's bugging me right now with kuubntu (and also with ubuntu) is that my msi wind screen brightness goes up and down... creating this flickering effect :(
[03:11] <carpii> msi wind screen?
[03:11] <jepong> the LCD
[03:11] <freaky[t]> with what program can i read .pdf files?
[03:11] <jepong> freaky[t]: okular?
[03:11] <carpii> KPDF
[03:12] <freaky[t]> ok thanks
[03:15] <bbt> how do i set up a logitech c500 webcam?
[03:22] <yongki> hello
[03:33] <bige610> hey guys i have 2wire uverse router i can enter my wep code fine in ubuntu but when i try to connect in kubuntu it doesnt authorize. anyone else have this problem
[03:33] <MBSTO> o/
[03:36] <jepong> bige610: everyone seems have problem with wireless in kubuntu... most i read intalled wicd
[03:36] <bige610> thanks  i will read up on that
[03:39] <jepong> bige610: try kubuntuforums.net   http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=113.0
[03:41] <bige610> thanks
[03:43] <skunch> someone please, please help me.
[03:43] <skunch> lol
[03:43] <monte48lowes> what do you need help with?
[03:43] <skunch> well
[03:43] <skunch> I don't even think this should be hard solve
[03:44] <skunch> I'll tell my situation
[03:44] <skunch> I was formatting my computer today
[03:44] <jepong> skunch: ill try
[03:44] <skunch> so I deleted my partition for ubuntu on my PC
[03:44] <skunch> that caused a problem
[03:44] <skunch> I fixed it (I'm back on Ubuntu now as we speak)
[03:45] <skunch> but when I needed get a Live CD, I had to take my external SATA from this computer to my brother's laptop to make a new live disc based on the Ubuntu Image I luckily left on it
[03:45] <skunch> so everything was cool
[03:45] <skunch> until
[03:45] <skunch> I can read my "Skunch Box" external harddrive on ubuntu
[03:45] <skunch> but that USB drive can no longer be read on windows
[03:46] <skunch> it doesn't read on my vista on this system
[03:46] <skunch> nor on the XP on my brother laptop
[03:46] <monte48lowes> what is the file format on the USB drive?
[03:46] <default> skunch: always eject usb devices...
[03:47] <skunch> NTFS
[03:47] <skunch> yes...now I know do that
[03:47] <skunch> I used to always never do it
[03:47] <skunch> and nothing wrong would happen but surely now I've learned the hard lesson
[03:47] <default> skunch: if you had pictures or media files there are some programs that be seek and find them, but else you will need some utility to tryt o repaire the partition and its format type
[03:47] <skunch> but no
[03:47] <monte48lowes> I am thinking that you need to run chdisk with the drive when it's attached to one of the windows machines
[03:47] <skunch> there's no partition made
[03:48] <skunch> wait lemme clear something up
[03:48] <default> usb is like a HD
[03:48] <skunch> This external USB is not a partition
[03:48] <skunch> it's in it's full 320 gb form.
[03:48] <skunch> I use it simply as extra space for both my PC and Ubuntu
[03:48] <skunch> and it's NTFS
[03:49] <skunch> what I don't understand is
[03:49] <skunch> why is only Linux reading it
[03:49] <monte48lowes> plug it into a windows machine and run test disk
[03:49] <skunch> and not windows
[03:49] <monte48lowes> sorry... chdisk
[03:49] <skunch> how would I go about that?
[03:49] <monte48lowes> or scan disk.... it's in the administration tools under control panel
[03:49] <skunch> because when I plug in the USB, windows does the recognition sound and everything
[03:49] <skunch> but nothing comes up
[03:49] <skunch> ok lemme write that down.
[03:51] <skunch> ok
[03:51] <skunch> I'll try that and come back here
[03:51] <monte48lowes> ok
[03:51] <skunch> lol I was going to flip out hardcore before
[03:51] <skunch> because before I came on ubuntu
[03:51] <promise> never write down what a bot says to write down.
[03:51] <skunch> I thought my USB had just kicked the bucket
[03:52] <skunch> k brb
[04:03] <danub> hey all, how can i enlarge the / firesystem to incorporate the newly created 10gig drive i just created?
[04:04] <Skunch> ok I'm back
[04:04] <Skunch> I'm on Windows now
[04:04] <danub> i only assigned 6 gigs originally to the install but during the upgrade process i was told i need another 1.6 gigs
[04:04] <danub> so i need to turn my 5.7 gig / into 15.7 /
[04:04] <danub> i cant seem to do taht in gparted
[04:04] <Skunch> I'm not sure I have the option for a Scan Disk in my Admin Tools place in Control Panel though :S
[04:04] <danub> anyone got any ideas?
[04:05] <danub> Skunch: go to my computer, go to c
[04:05] <danub> right click, properties
[04:05] <danub> tools
[04:05] <danub> chieck disk for errors
[04:05] <Skunch> yeah but
[04:06] <Skunch> I'm trying to do this for a USB External
[04:06] <Skunch> that I cannot see on windows anymore ;)
[04:06] <Skunch> lol
[04:06] <danub> ahh
[04:06] <danub> well if you plug it in and cant see it, your screwed
[04:06] <Skunch> I see it in Linux
[04:06] <danub> try going to disk management
[04:06] <danub> ahh
[04:06] <Skunch> and it works perfectly fine
[04:06] <danub> you may need to format it
[04:06] <Skunch> but it doesn't work on this part of my computer (Vista)
[04:07] <danub> but
[04:07] <danub> lets see
[04:07] <Skunch> nor on my brother's XP comp
[04:07] <danub> well i dont know how to get to disk management in vista
[04:07] <danub> on xp its right click the my computer icon, go to manage
[04:07] <danub> then disk management
[04:07] <danub> and see if its listed
[04:08] <default> Skunch: in window look in the drive manager area of their management console thingy
[04:08] <danub> someone tell me how to merge 2 virtual disks please
[04:08] <danub> i need to do this freaking upgrade and i dont have the disk space :(
[04:09] <Skunch> yes it sees it
[04:09] <Skunch> I even turned it off and on
[04:09] <Skunch> it knows it's there
[04:09] <Skunch> it even does the sound recognition
[04:09] <Skunch> but
[04:09] <Skunch> doesn't show up as an option to explore
[04:09] <danub> skunch, then you need to format it
[04:09] <Skunch> D:
[04:10] <promise> is ti a good thing to scroll up in irc to read what you missed?
[04:10] <danub> who promise?
[04:11] <davidjheinrich> hi all...if I have AVI files, can I just drag them to the VIDEO_TS folder in K3b to make a DVD?
[04:11] <danub> damnit
[04:11] <Skunch> DAnub
[04:11] <danub> i just broke my linux:(
[04:11] <danub> and it let me do it
[04:11] <danub> that sucks
[04:12] <FloodBotK1> danub: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <Skunch> why can't I just
[04:12] <Skunch> make it read that USB at an L: drive again?
[04:12] <danub> sure you can try to change drive letter
[04:12] <Skunch> right now it has no associated drive letter
[04:12] <Skunch> how can I assign it back?
[04:13] <danub> disk management
[04:13] <Skunch> and then?
[04:14] <danub> right click it, assign letter
[04:14] <danub> i gotta restart. i might be back, i might not. depends on how bad i broke this install
[04:15] <webaska> hi, can anybody suggest most popular firewall for kubuntu 9.10 ? I mean firestarted doesnt even have its website anymore :((
[04:16] <jepong> webaska: ufw? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
[04:18] <webaska> i have read it before but it doesnt make any sense.I dont even know how it works.Does it autostart then kubuntu loads?Does it have graphical interface so i can see who tries nasty stuff?
[04:18] <jepong> how about this one?http://roderick-greening.blogspot.com/2008/12/ufw-kde-simple-firewall-for-kubuntu.html
[04:21] <webaska> great :)
[04:24] <webbb82> what window managers work in kde   i know compiz and kwin  but is there another one that would run faster on my netbook
[04:28] <xfire8> if someone fix it i give him my soul : http://communities.intel.com/thread/8007 thanks
[04:29] <i_is_broke> can anyone explain chainloading to me?
[04:29] <catamarquenio> xfire8: i think its something more about ut computer... try restoring all settings to default...
[04:30] <catamarquenio> xfire8: it could be just a coincidence that it happens just in linux...
[04:30] <xfire8> i tired bro , not help .
[04:30] <catamarquenio> xfire8: did u restore defaults?
[04:30] <xfire8> yes , reset cmos too
[04:31] <xfire8> its cant be coincidence  because its all in kind of linux
[04:32] <catamarquenio> xfire8: linux its not loaded when u turn ur computer on... its not even reading the hd when it just starts......
[04:32] <k4ever> i'm pretty sure this has been asked a thousand times but i can't find an answer using google:  is kde 4.3.3 available for jaunty?
[04:33] <xfire8> oh i dont know ..
[04:33] <catamarquenio> k4ever: nope... u can try installing it from karmic repos though... cant assume everything will go out ok though
[04:33] <xfire8> i really need to fix it
[04:34] <catamarquenio> xfire8: what apps do u run on the linux box?
[04:34] <k4ever> will it be available for jaunty?  i don't want to go on a rant but i don't want to be forced to update to 9.10 just for updates to the DE
[04:34] <i_is_broke> k4ever, i wouldnt mix them, you will have fits.
[04:35] <xfire8> catamequrio : nothing , fresh linux
[04:35] <k4ever> i_is_broke:  i don't plan on it.  hope the kubuntu guys are working on this for jaunty.  some of us are not ready to take the leap to karmic
[04:36] <promise> 25 signal sins?
[04:36] <catamarquenio> xfire8: then im more sure its something in ur pc, not linux issue
[04:36] <i_is_broke> k4ever, its not bad if your hardware is supported..for a while it stopped supporting the intel video and made a mess of my system, but now its doing quite well.although i see a lot of people are having issues with sound and video still.
[04:37] <catamarquenio> k4ever: theres nothing on the web... did u try installing them from karmic?
[04:37] <i_is_broke> k4ever, although i havent tried installing in vbox yet either.
[04:38] <k4ever> catamarquenio:  i'm not that adventurous.   i have a good build with kde 4.3.2.  i don't want to screw it up.
[04:39] <catamarquenio> k4ever: do a remaster copy or a backup to an usb pendrive and then go for it....
[04:39] <k4ever> i_is_broke:  i use linux mint 7.  i'm waiting for linux mint 8 to switch to karmic
[04:40] <i_is_broke> k4ever,  ya i use lxde as my desktop on top of kde..and it seems to be working pretty good as well...
[04:40] <catamarquenio> whats up with mint? why people use a make up copy of ubuntu?
[04:41] <k4ever> mint has better configuration tools, which ubuntu seems to lack and has not fixed yet
[04:41] <i_is_broke> whats so different about mint then regular ubuntu?
[04:42] <catamarquenio> yeah i mean, whats the difference about using mint vs ubuntu?
[04:42] <catamarquenio> if they take ubuntu and make mint....
[04:42] <k4ever> mint has made the switch from pclinuxos pleasant for me
[04:42] <i_is_broke> heck im trying to figure out the chainloader for lucid lynx so i can update my test box...googling has a lot to be desired tonight as im tired from my grandkids kicking my butt all day and evening.
[04:44] <i_is_broke> and i hate messing with the gnome freaks in the regular ubuntu channel some are very egotistical and rude.
[04:44] <k4ever> imagine that ubuntu is a piece of brass.  mint is polish for the brass
[04:45] <i_is_broke> k4ever, i have talked to several people who use mint and they seem very happy with it.
[04:45] <catamarquenio> u can do it by ur self... and probably getting less errors than mint "remaster team"
[04:45] <k4ever> i'm extremely happy with it :)
[04:47] <k4ever> catamarquenio:  takes too long to get to that level.  i haven't seen too many errors with mint.
[04:48] <catamarquenio> i have been doing remaster copys of ubuntu from 8.04 all copied to a pen... never had to reinstall it... and im sure i have more usefull stuff than mint and offcourse its more good looking........
[04:49] <k4ever> i_is_broke:  i've seen to many freaks on both the gnome and kde sides.  i run both.  i prefer kde, but that is my choice.  i don't care if someone else prefers gnome.  that is there choice.  the freaks want you to use what they are using because in their minds its superior
[04:50] <k4ever> catamarquenio:  to each his own.  i like mint and i'm willing to wait for mint 8 to switch to karmic.
[04:51] <catamarquenio> k4ever: ur right...
[04:52] <vitamin-carrot> OMG !!!
[04:52] <vitamin-carrot> I am wearing pants
[04:52] <k4ever> i just hope the mint team doesn't take too long
[04:54] <davidjheinrich> I have 8GB of RAM on my Linux system...why does the Sys Monitor report that I'm using 2.6 MiB of Swap when I have 6.6 free GB of RAM?
[04:55] <vitamin-carrot> swap is a part of your HDD isnt it?
[04:55] <vitamin-carrot> some people use USB flash drives as swap
[04:55] <i_is_broke> davidjheinrich, are you running the 64 bit?
[04:56] <davidjheinrich> yes
[04:56] <i_is_broke> how is the flash working for you?
[04:56] <davidjheinrich> I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit
[04:56] <davidjheinrich> not using flash
[04:56] <i_is_broke> you dont use adobe flash at all?
[04:57] <davidjheinrich> i_is_broke, ru asking me?
[04:57] <i_is_broke> davidjheinrich, yes
[04:58] <davidjheinrich> i_is_broke, why does that matter? I don't see how adobe flash has to do with swap usage
[04:58] <davidjheinrich> but I think I have flash support...I can watch u-tube, that's flash right?
[04:59] <i_is_broke> davidjheinrich, it dont, i was asking because you said you was using the 64 bit distro and was curious..
[04:59] <vitamin-carrot> i am using 64bit
[04:59] <i_is_broke> davidjheinrich, yes thats flash.
[04:59] <vitamin-carrot> the flash 10 dev runs sweet
[04:59] <davidjheinrich> I think I may have had to install some flash plugin or something
[05:00] <davidjheinrich> dont' think it worked by default
[05:00] <i_is_broke> vitamin-carrot, thanks i have been thinking of switching but was kind of waiting for that to be fixed first.
[05:00] <vitamin-carrot> its only dev but i have not had any issues
[05:00] <vitamin-carrot> i can pint you to a good how to if you want
[05:00] <vitamin-carrot> *point
[05:01] <i_is_broke> well i was going to just download and do a fresh install. so i can use it for testing lucid
[05:01] <davidjheinrich> i_is_broke, ru on ubutnu 8?
[05:01] <i_is_broke> ive been on karmic since alpha 2
[05:02] <davidjheinrich> what's Karmic? the new release, 9.10?
[05:02] <davidjheinrich> yea, ach
[05:02] <davidjheinrich> I'm glad I didn't upgrade to it
[05:02] <i_is_broke> and if i can figure out this chainloader stuff , ill switch my test box over tonight for lucid.
[05:02] <vitamin-carrot> here ya go broke - http://technologycrowd.com/2009/11/01/installing-64-bit-flash-player-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[05:02] <davidjheinrich> Ubuntu shouldn't recommend the upgrade to 9.10 so soon...it's way too early for most people
[05:03] <davidjheinrich> hey, do you guys have a suggestion for a program to do DVD-movie creation from AVI files?
[05:03] <i_is_broke> thanks vitamin-carrot , i saved it to favorites and will use it when i switch..lol
[05:03] <davidjheinrich> I want a simple GUI to guide me through this, not go through 6 command-line steps
[05:04] <vitamin-carrot> heinrich - i think i saw somehting on getdeb but i can tbe sure
[05:04] <vitamin-carrot> you might want to take a look
[05:04] <davidjheinrich> yep, QDVDauthor
[05:04] <davidjheinrich> that's one I'm considering
[05:05] <davidjheinrich> QDVDauthor or DVDstyler
[05:05] <davidjheinrich> http://www.dvdstyler.org/
[05:05] <FloodBotK1> davidjheinrich: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <davidjheinrich> and http://qdvdauthor.sourceforge.net
[05:07] <davidjheinrich> and also mandvd
[05:07] <davidjheinrich> maybe I'll jut install them all and see which one I like best
[05:08] <vitamin-carrot> sounds like a plan
[05:11] <vitamin-carrot> ahhh bollocks i just broke my conky
[05:32] <D3m3r5u5_> Need help with apache
[05:32] <D3m3r5u5_> any one willing?
[05:32] <D3m3r5u5_> Apache is acting like mod_rewrite is enabled but it is not
[05:36] <promise> dr3m3us, what are you trying to do?
[05:36] <promise> ubuntu of course right?
[05:49] <pushax> hi all.  Is anyone good at security user levels?
[05:51] <pushax> My mounted ntfs drives wont allow guest to read files over samba.  I want to know how to allow this without editing the FSTAB.  The drives are using group 'plugdev'
[05:52] <pushax> I tried adding 'nobody' user to 'plugdev' group but that didn't work plus it would be a bad security choice.
[05:54] <gigasoft> i have problem opening dvd with many's options
[05:54] <gigasoft> "Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file."
[05:54] <gigasoft> any   help?
[05:55] <pushax> gigasoft: define opening?
[05:55] <gigasoft> playing
[05:55] <pushax> other words what are you trying to do
[05:55] <gigasoft> :)
[05:55] <pushax> ok
[05:56] <gigasoft> to play dvd disc
[05:56] <pushax> check your /etc/fstab file and see what it says for the cdrom line
[05:56] <gigasoft> and on my own pc i do not have permission
[05:56] <pushax> are you the defacto user of the computer or a sub user?
[05:57] <gigasoft> user
[05:57] <gigasoft> i tried all
[05:58] <pushax> my line in fstab reads "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8  0 0"
[05:58] <gigasoft> installed plug-ins, ...
[05:58] <gigasoft> how to do that?
[05:59] <pushax> check you fstab file out using a text editor.
[05:59] <gigasoft> how
[05:59] <pushax> gigasoft: install krusader
[05:59] <gigasoft> ok
[05:59] <pushax> gigasoft: will let you browser files and edit them...
[06:00] <gigasoft> sudo aptitude install krusader ...
[06:00] <gigasoft> done
[06:00] <pushax> sudo apt-get install krusader
[06:00] <pushax> ok..
[06:00] <pushax> now run it.
[06:01] <pushax> using the root version.  the red one..
[06:01] <gigasoft> done
[06:01] <pushax> now in the first side near the address bar, press'/'
[06:01] <gigasoft> sudo krusader
[06:02] <pushax> then got director 'etc'
[06:02] <gigasoft> done
[06:02] <pushax> goto
[06:02] <gigasoft> just a cec
[06:02] <pushax> look in that directory for fstab.  telling you this way so you learn how to use krusader in the mean time
[06:03] <gigasoft> yap
[06:03] <gigasoft> :)
[06:03] <gigasoft> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[06:03] <gigasoft> #
[06:03] <gigasoft> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[06:03] <gigasoft> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[06:03] <gigasoft> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[06:03] <FloodBotK1> gigasoft: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <pushax> click ftab once and then press the view or edit button at bottom.  or F3
[06:04] <SandGorgon> anybody know how to get the Davicom DEC Tulip ethernet driver to work on hardy/jaunty ?
[06:04] <gigasoft> ?
[06:04] <gigasoft> ?
[06:04] <gigasoft> ok
[06:04] <pushax> gigasoft: have you found the fstab file in the krusader file browser?
[06:04] <gigasoft> yap
[06:04] <gigasoft> :)
[06:05] <pushax> gigasoft: ok then edit or view the file.  there are buttons at bottom of app
[06:05] <gigasoft> ok what to edit
[06:05] <gigasoft> ?
[06:05] <pushax> gigasoft: you can't paste code...
[06:06] <pushax> gigasoft: if it's one line or two it's ok, but if not use !pastebin
[06:06] <pushax> !pastebin
[06:06] <gigasoft> ok
[06:07] <pushax> gigasoft: just copy and paste the cdrom line
[06:07] <gigasoft> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[06:08] <gigasoft> is this ok?
[06:08] <pushax> gigasoft: ok that looks ok.  you may now want to goto the /media directory and see if the user and group security levels are oko
[06:08] <pushax> in the media directory is where the devices like cdroms mount
[06:09] <gigasoft> ownership: root
[06:10] <gigasoft> Access permissions: can view content
[06:10] <pushax> gigasoft: ok.  you may want to check what devices...media you have mounted.
[06:10] <gigasoft> how to do that?
[06:11] <pushax> gigasoft: also in krusader right mouse click menu on the columns and get them to display better details.
[06:11] <gigasoft> rwx
[06:12] <gigasoft> drwxrwrwx
[06:12] <gigasoft> something like that in column perms
[06:12] <gigasoft> owner root
[06:12] <pushax> gigasoft: 'mount | column -t'
[06:13] <gigasoft> where to put that
[06:13] <gigasoft> ?
[06:13] <pushax> in the commandline.
[06:13] <pushax> bash
[06:13] <gigasoft> interminal
[06:13] <gigasoft> in terminal
[06:14] <pushax> yep
[06:14] <pushax> I'm fairly new to linux so don't know the terminology
[06:14] <gigasoft> /bin/mount: /bin/mount: cannot execute binary file
[06:14] <pushax> check with that command to see if you have another item mounted into the /media/cdrom
[06:15] <pushax> as maybe it's trying to access a spot taken.
[06:15] <gigasoft> no it has not
[06:15] <pushax> the other issue could be the disc is damaged or in a format unknown.  If you're using latest kubuntu then it should eb able to read most discs, like UDF
[06:16] <gigasoft> hm
[06:16] <gigasoft> ok
[06:16] <gigasoft> it reads on win xp
[06:16] <gigasoft> on a friends laptop
[06:16] <pushax> run k3d and see if it can read it at a lower level.  like get disc info
[06:16] <gigasoft> ok
[06:17] <pushax> k3b
[06:17] <gigasoft> gigasoft@KubuntuPC:~$ k3b
[06:17] <pushax> k3b is free.  just add it
[06:17] <lninjo> can i run osx in virtualbox
[06:18] <pushax> OSX requires a speial bios boot stage feature
[06:19] <lninjo> thanks i will investigate
[06:19] <pushax> gigasoft: you should already have k3b installed.  press F2 and type in k3b and it should find it for you
[06:20] <gigasoft> i done it
[06:20] <pushax> lninjo: there are modded versions of osx that gets around the bios requirements.
[06:21] <pushax> gigasoft: what was the problem?
[06:21] <lninjo> how do you get it
[06:21] <gigasoft> well  forget about it
[06:21] <gigasoft> thanks' anyway
[06:21] <pushax> lninjo: do google search... not sure if they wouold be latest versions of osx.
[06:22] <lninjo> what would i have to search for like a special name or something
[06:22] <promise> what is it with women and sizes of digital data
[06:22] <promise> im saying size does matter, 1024 kb worth....
[06:22] <pushax> gigasoft: see if k3b can read hte disc at lower level and tell you what the disc is formated in.
[06:23] <pushax> gigasoft: you maybe able to add in the disc format protocol.  It maybe a wierd format.
[06:24] <gigasoft> Type:	DVD-R
[06:24] <gigasoft> Type:	DVD-R
[06:24] <gigasoft> Media ID:	 TYG02
[06:24] <gigasoft> ype:	DVD-R
[06:24] <gigasoft> Media ID:	 TYG02
[06:24] <gigasoft> Capacity:	502:50:66 min (4.3 GiB)
[06:24] <gigasoft> Used Capacity:	502:50:66 min (4.3 GiB)
[06:24] <FloodBotK1> gigasoft: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <gigasoft> Application Id:	NERO BURNING ROM
[06:24] <gigasoft> Volume Size:	4.3 GiB (2,048 B * 2,262,816 blocks = 4,634,247,168 B)
[06:25] <pushax> gigasoft: does it say an ISO type
[06:27] <pushax> Help needed --- My mounted ntfs drives wont allow guest to read files over samba.  I want to know how to allow this without editing the FSTAB.  The drives are using group 'plugdev'
[06:30] <lninjo> me too
[06:34] <Qu4Z> pushax: Is samba set up properly? <_<
[06:36] <pushax> Qu4Z: Yep. defaults
[06:37] <Qu4Z> So it's only ntfs drives that have the problem? (you can read off other drives just fine?)
[06:38] <pushax> Qu4Z: the access levels are conflicting as the samba user doesn't have access to the drives.  Yep on;y ntfs as they are mounted using gid = plugdev
[06:38] <i_is_broke> ok whats the location for source.lst?
[06:38] <peace> hi..just installed kubuntu 9.10 I loved the way it installed itself and other programs. But i have few problems.Amarok plays sound and i can hear it, vlc, youtube doesnt.
[06:38] <Qu4Z> Ah, okay. Not sure I can help you there, sorry <_<
[06:39] <pushax> Qu4Z: the problem is I don't want to add guest=nobody to the plugdev group as that would give guests read access to all my devices using plugdev level
[06:39] <pushax> Qu4Z: I was wondering if there is a better solution to get guest mode working so they can access my shares without user:password
[06:40] <pushax> brb
[06:41] <pushax> peace: sounds liek you need to get pulseaudio working
[06:41] <pushax> peace: without pulseaudio you can onyl play one sound app at a time
[06:42] <peace> well amarok works and kubuntu then it starts also i hear its sound.Im looking at settings and i see pulse and audigy and i test them.I put pulse priority at the top, but it doesnt make difference.
[06:43] <pushax> peace yep.  in System Settings>Multimedia put pulse audio tot he top of all the items
[06:43] <pushax> then you need to install pulseaudio server
[06:43] <peace> yeah but the sound still not working on firefox and vlc
[06:44] <pushax> also install pavuconttrol which is a pulseaudio volume control. use the pa volume control to setup the channels and volumes...
[06:44] <pushax> peace so you are sure you ahve a pulseaudio server!
[06:45] <pushax> also make sure you kmix has it's levels all set too.  turn on all the channels and see if theya re all right before setting pulseaudio's levels.
[06:46] <pushax> 'pavucontrol'
[06:48] <i_is_broke> well here goes nothing, updating test box to lucid see if it blows up..lol
[06:49] <jussi01___> is usb creator.exe on the current cd?
[06:49] <jussi01___> growl
[06:49] <pushax> peace: onec that's all done, then make sure vlc uses pulseaudio for it's playing. otherwords check its settings.
[06:49] <peace> well pavucontrol wasnt installed, but now after i installed it and checked vlc amarok youtube, only amarok works as before :)
[06:50] <pushax> peace: sound in firefox is another matter.  you will need to install something like totem or vlc for mozilla to get sound.
[06:50] <pushax> peace: or if the webpage uses flash... then it may play sound.  firefox should tell you waht it needs though.
[06:51] <pushax> peace: check amarok and see if it's set to use pulse audio.  as pulse needs to claim the first slot ont he hardware
[06:51] <peace> vlc cant find pulse..but nor alsa nor OSS helps to vlc to play the music.I mean i cant hear it. :)
[06:52] <pushax> peace: so you isntalled specifically pulseaudio server using package installer
[06:52] <pushax> like KpackageKit
[06:53] <tsimpson> jussi01___: creator.exe?
[06:54] <jussi01___> tsimpson: cant find it :/
[06:54] <pushax> tsimpson: mayeb for win32 users
[06:54] <tsimpson> jussi01___: what is it?
[06:54] <jussi01___> tsimpson: usb creator
[06:55] <jussi01___> Im looking for the windows one...
[06:55] <pushax> obviously it makes a usb live dongle
[06:55] <jussi01___> the usb creator page says its on the cd
[06:55] <jussi01___> argh
[06:55] <pushax> I'll shut up
[06:55] <jussi01___> !usb
[06:55] <tsimpson> jussi01___: usb-creator.exe is on the netbook CD, yes
[06:56] <jussi01___> tsimpson: Ive the normal desktop cd
[06:56] <jussi01___> could you pop it up somewhere? I cant even find it on google :(
[06:56] <pushax> Help needed --- My mounted ntfs drives wont allow guest to read files over samba.  I want to know how to allow this without editing the FSTAB.  The drives are using group 'plugdev'
[06:57] <tsimpson> jussi01___: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/karmic/kubuntu-9.10-netbook-i386.iso/%5Bpeek%5D%5Bpage=2%5D?extract=true
[06:57] <tsimpson> the link there should work
[06:58] <zeelot3k> hey... I don't see how to accept files on IRC using quaseel o_o
[06:58] <zeelot3k> anyone?
[06:59] <tsimpson> zeelot3k: it doesn't work in quassel, you'll have to use another client like konversation
[06:59] <zeelot3k> wow
[06:59] <zeelot3k> weak
[07:00] <tsimpson> zeelot3k: quassel didn't exist too long ago, it's still under development (still at version 0.5.0)
[07:00] <SandGorgon> which PCI network cards are best supported on Hardy Heron - we need to replace a couple of them in our office
[07:00] <tsimpson> !hardware
[07:00] <zeelot3k> yea but it was made the default IRC client for kubuntu
[07:01] <tsimpson> zeelot3k: because we had no choice
[07:01] <zeelot3k> is it a konversation/kde4 thing?
[07:01] <tsimpson> yeah, if you call the fact that it didn't exist a "thing" ;)
[07:02] <zeelot3k> lol
[07:02] <zeelot3k> you guys have to use all kde4 apps?
[07:02] <peace> it was a bit confusing to notice pulse audio server, but i installed and vlc doesnt see any pulse driver.. no sound in youtube too :D
[07:03] <tsimpson> zeelot3k: we want to, because we have to fit all the default apps (and everything they depend on) on to the install CD
[07:03] <zeelot3k> ah ok
[07:03] <tsimpson> so both KDE3 libraries and KDE4 libraries together take up quite a bit of space
[07:03] <zeelot3k> thanks for the info
[07:03] <tsimpson> no problem :)
[07:04] <zeelot3k> ill just have to install konversation for a few days
[07:04] <tsimpson> it's really quite usable these days, you may grow to like it
[07:04] <tsimpson> more features that quassel
[07:04] <zeelot3k> I like quassel, but I need file transfers for a bit
[07:04] <zeelot3k> oh you meant konv?
[07:04] <tsimpson> yeah
[07:05] <zeelot3k> I used konversation a lot until very recently
[07:05] <zeelot3k> on ubuntu I use konversation usually
[07:05] <tsimpson> when it gets good scripting support, it'll be my perfect client
[07:05] <zeelot3k> heh
[07:05] <zeelot3k> they are working on a kde4 version too right?
[07:06] <tsimpson> that's the one I'm on about, it's released now
[07:06] <zeelot3k> ah cool
[07:06]  * zeelot3k looks
[07:06] <tsimpson> version 1.2 is the KDE4 version
[07:06] <tsimpson> !info konversation
[07:07] <zeelot3k> so is konversation back to being the default?
[07:07] <tsimpson> not for karmic
[07:07] <tsimpson> but maybe for lucid
[07:07] <tsimpson> we'll decide at UDS
[07:07] <zeelot3k> alright
[07:10] <peace> fuck yeah vlc sound works :DDD
[07:10] <wavis_> I have an eee with kubuntu on it, and it has two internal solid state drives. One is fast, and has the OS on it, the other is large. The small one has a mere 250m on it now, and I'm wondering if there is a way to get apt-get to install its stuff on the other drive. tips?
[07:12] <tsimpson> !language | peace
[07:12] <tsimpson> wavis_: you can create another partition and have that mount to /var (or /var/cache)
[07:13] <peace> please dont be neurotic. :D i was simply very happy since its not an easy task to fix something :)
[07:13] <tsimpson> peace: it's a rule of this channel that we keep things "family friendly", not just me being neurotic
[07:13] <peace> still no sound using youtube :(
[07:14] <peace> well i wont be rude okay okay :)
[07:14] <tsimpson> I think in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc you can set how it uses the sound system
[07:16] <wavis_> tsimpson: so apt-get uses /var mostly? wouldn't I have to delete or move /var in order to mount the other drive there? i imagine i don't fully understand the amount of stuff I might disrupt...
[07:17] <tsimpson> wavis_: apt-get downloads the .debs to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and package lists to /var/lib/apt/lists/, so that's where most of the space goes
[07:17] <tsimpson> you shouldn't have to move anything, the apps should notice that the dirs aren't there and recreate them
[07:17] <tsimpson> or you can run "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out the old .debs if you just want a bit more space
[07:20] <peace> tsimpson can u help me with sound? amarok vlc works, but youtube doesnt make any sound.Pulse audio control volume shows in real time that the sound is ON.( it moves as i see some video clips with sound )
[07:20] <wavis_> clean leaves me with 565m.
[07:20] <peace> oh i fixed... dear god lol :D
[07:21] <tsimpson> well, that was quick
[07:22] <peace> i was lucky..changed something to analog duplex.
[07:24] <wavis_> doing this with /var won't gain much... du on /var reveals it using just 188m. i really need to utilize that other drive somehow
[07:24] <wavis_> maybe i should just reinstall
[07:25] <wavis_> or use DSL (the distro, not the internet connection)
[07:25] <tsimpson> DSL is good for a small system, but it's the apps you install that take up the most space
[07:27] <wavis_> ah, then maybe i should remove some of the standard kde apps
[07:27] <wavis_> that i don't use much
[07:31] <wavis_> i know i could gain a lot by removing open office, but i feel i might regret that in a business setting
[07:32] <wavis_> i'll just live with effectively a 500m hd for now until/if it bites me
[07:32] <nevyn> wavis_: latex ftw
[07:32] <nevyn> LaTeX even
[07:34] <wavis_> nevyn: I've heard a lot about it, but i'm not familiar with LaTeX. can it read/edit word and xls documents?
[07:35] <nevyn> no.
[07:37] <wavis_> if i could inject a syringe of geekitude into the brain of every business minded corporate drone, believe me I would.
[07:37] <wavis_> it would help so many things
[07:38] <nevyn> hrm...
[07:38] <nevyn> maybe.
[07:38] <nevyn> maybe not.
[07:38]  * nevyn has been doing psycobabble stuff all day
[07:39] <nevyn> I sortof get where those people are comming from.. (it's not for me but I get where they are.)
[07:41] <wavis_> yeah, it's not that i hold any malice toward them. they just could use a bit more interest and understanding of information sciences, and why they're imporant
[07:41] <wavis_> this is such a digression
[07:41] <nevyn> yes it's way OT
[07:48] <peace> how to make firestarter to autostart ?
[07:53] <seraphim> problem : nach dem anmelden startet sich kdm neu. die arbeitsfläche wird nichtmehr aufgebaut
[07:53] <seraphim> kann jemand weiterhelfen
[07:53] <tsimpson> !de
[07:53] <seraphim> hello
[07:54] <seraphim> good morning
[07:54] <seraphim> after login in kdm,  the workplace will not start, insteat kdm restarts an prompt for login again
[07:54] <seraphim> anyone can help ?
[08:01] <peace> how much serious events is normal to get in an hour? ( using firestarter )
[08:08] <tsimpson> peace: depends on how you connect to the net and how many nasty people are scanning your network (and how many are false alerts)
[08:11] <Smurphy> tsimpson: yeah. Kind of... To access my network, only port-knocking works - if you know which port/door to knock at :)
[08:11] <tsimpson> or you have a random number generator, a lot of time, and some luck ;)
[08:12] <peace> i get about 20 red alerts...not black(not serious) with blacks it can be 70 or more :D
[08:12] <Smurphy> tsimpson: Luck would work. I have setup my systems to dynamically blacklist all attempts that do not succeed on the 3rd try ... :)
[08:13] <tsimpson> * and lots of IPs ;)
[08:14] <seraphim>  after login in kdm,  the workplace will not start, insteat kdm restarts an prompt for login again, anyone can help ?
[08:14] <Smurphy> tsimpson: yeah. Well - if there are too many attempts - the system locks all access attempts alltogether for a predefined time, and still logs - to see if all accesses are to be kept locked or not.
[08:14] <Smurphy> tsimpson: You can do awfull lots of stuff if you know how to play with Shorewall :)
[08:15] <tsimpson> heh
[08:16] <Smurphy> BTW - does anyone know how I could use the extra buttons on my mouse - to switch Desktop - e.g. Button 4 -> Desktop Right, Button 5 -> Desktop Left ?
[08:16] <Smurphy> Doesn't seem to work ... The Buttons are detected, byt setting it up in the system settings/KDE won't tek the buttons.
[08:22] <ubuntu> hi
[08:22] <Smurphy> BTW - U folks know how to sync your calendar/addressbook data easily with a Mac OS-X ?
[08:30] <Smurphy> Hmmm... irssi just crashed. Weird. Never happened before ...
[08:56] <hackndoes_> can anyone help me setup unison mail client to work with gmail?
[08:56] <hackndoes_> does anyone use unison for mail and calendar services?
[09:00] <morfeus> hi,chat.........
[09:01] <seraphim>   after login in kdm,  the workplace will not start, insteat kdm restarts an prompt for login again, anyone can help ?
[09:10] <rfoney> wud up user
[09:12] <mr-retard> help ! i added a widget "opendesktop" to check out what it was, now my screen blacked out. all my menus are gone and i don't know which process to terminate
[09:13] <Smurphy> mr-retard: oha. Klick on the screen ?
[09:13] <mr-retard> klicking both left and right do nothing
[09:15] <seraphim>  after login in kdm,  the workplace will not start, insteat kdm restarts an prompt for login again, anyone can help ?
[09:17] <mr-retard> Smurphy, clicking doesn't do anything, can't find either plasmoid or opendesktop process
[09:18] <Elephantman> after a fresh install of karmic, X crashes while loading KDE
[09:19] <Elephantman> i've removed nvidia driver, but it still crashes
[09:19] <Elephantman> and tried fluxbox, there no problems, X works
[09:19] <Elephantman> seems like there is something in kde's loading process that crashes X
[09:19] <Elephantman> any clue ?
[09:21] <mr-retard> Elephantman, do you get a black screen ?
[09:21] <Elephantman> (looks like my issue is the sames as seraphim's)
[09:21] <Elephantman> I did with nvidia driver, without I'm back to login screen
[09:40] <cjae> Hi, can someone  tell me how to get the prompt for adding usability to konqueror back again  or how to do it from the command line?
[09:40] <cjae> I have looked through the konqueror settings
[09:42] <QbProg> hello there!
[09:43] <QbProg> I would like to try GCC 4.5 in kubuntu
[09:43] <QbProg> is there any repository containing experimental packages?
[09:43] <QbProg> I have 9.10
[09:48] <QbProg> anyone?
[09:48] <QbProg> :)
[09:51] <peabody> Hey I was able to upgrade from 9.04 using the download, but when I try to boot from the CD when KDE starts I get vertical green and grey lines... can I run the install from my desktop using the install cd without having to boot from and run under their KDE config that is not compatible iwth my system apparently?
[09:52] <peabody> I need to wipe out my partitions because I'm running on a degraded md-raid and I want to delete the md partitions entirely
[09:53] <Elephantman> peabody> like me and apparently a lot of others, you are having serious issuers with X in the last upgrade. so far I've got no real answer, good luck :/
[09:54] <peabody> Well, it's obvious that I can solve it by booting from an old 9.04 CD and installing , then using the download installer.. I'm just trying to avoid a few redundant steps and increase my knowledge along the way
[09:55] <peabody> I would think with a chroot command and a few simple steps I could launch the installer from my current install..
[09:55] <Elephantman> peabody> oh I think I'm getting wrong, you've not yet upgraded
[09:56] <peabody> oh I did the upgrade and it works fine
[09:56] <peabody> now I'm trying to boot from the 9.10 disk and install so I can repartition my disk
[09:56] <peabody> but booting from the disk isn't working!
[09:57] <Elephantman> ok, understood. I didn't have that problem on current box since I'm using alternate
[10:05] <peabody> Hmm, using the alternate install cd.. you might be a genius!
[10:05] <peabody> brb
[10:07] <ritual> My KPPackage manager doesnt seem to install anything when I search
[10:07] <Elephantman> I always use it because I've got no need for the bling bling of the graphical install, and it's faster without
[10:15] <ritual_> I get this error when trying to Browse c: in Wine
[10:15] <ritual_> Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder
[10:18] <kp> hi
[10:18] <kp> nvidia question
[10:18] <kp> hardware drivers app refuses to activate driver
[10:18] <kp> fresh kubuntu karmic install
[10:19] <kp> anybody had this issue?
[10:21] <BETEPOK> Hello, everybody! Does anyone can help me to conifigure fglrx driver? Please?
[10:23] <JediMaster> hey guys, is there a kubuntu net install iso I can get somewhere?
[10:26] <dylan_> hello, i just succeeded to get kubuntu netbook installed, it was a bit hard but it is looking nice, well done!
[10:27] <BETEPOK> I've seen only full 700 mb iso on the main server. No net installs like in Debian
[10:27] <JediMaster> BETEPOK, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ ?
[10:27] <JediMaster> just found that =)
[10:28] <dylan_> the new netbook interface is a bit strange, is it possible to remove icons from the main menue to simplify it???
[10:28] <JediMaster> ok, so I already have a USB stick with ubuntu karmic on it, should I just use that then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[10:31] <JediMaster> eek, nearly forgot to backup my svn repository before wiping the machine
[10:32] <dylan_> huh. i just figured out you click the star thingy to put things in the transparent menu bar, right click or drag would be better. till, its very fancy looking ... fs
[10:41] <laboratorio> hello
[10:41] <JediMaster> is there any reason I shouldn't do an ubuntu install and just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[10:42] <JediMaster> is there any difference between the kubuntu and ubuntu installers apart from the *ubuntu-desktop package?
[10:45] <Mamarok> JediMaster: well, if you install Ubuntu first, you will have the Gnome interface
[10:45] <Mamarok> so if you only want KDE, just use Kubuntu
[10:46] <bernat> Hello everybody
[10:46] <bernat> i have a little question
[10:46] <Mamarok> !ask | bernat
[10:48] <bernat> do you know some way to use the effect of making a window ocupate one half of the screen? Sorry for my english
[10:49] <bernat> i'm using kubuntu
[10:50] <kavurt> bernat: what do you mean?
[10:50] <Elephantman> how can I activate proprietary (nvidia) without using jockey ? (it freezes)
[10:51] <bernat> like the Windows 7 effect
[10:51] <bernat> i don't know if it's possible with kwin or compiz
[10:52] <nestor_> hi
[10:54] <bernat> if you drag a window to the right side of the screen it snaps to half screen size
[10:55] <Mamarok> bernat: you mean displaying Windows in mosaic mode?
[10:56] <Mamarok> ah, that effect, I don't think it snaps to hlaf the screen side, it just snaps to the right or left border,, not sure if it actually gets resized
[10:56] <Mamarok> half*
[10:56] <MelisU> how do I map just the windows key to something?
[10:58] <Mamarok> MelisU: in the Systemsettings-> Keyboard & Mouse -> Standard and Global Shortcuts
[10:58] <Mamarok> choose the action and change the shortcut to the windows key (Meta)
[10:59] <Mamarok> but since it is a Meta key, it is like Ctrl, only that key will not activate anything, you need to use a sequence
[10:59] <Mamarok> bernat: that snapping to desktop is available in Kwin and KDE since ages btw
[11:00] <MelisU> Mamarok: Well, already tried that. Gives me Meta + as long as I press it.
[11:01] <MelisU> Mamarok: When I release it goes away .. strange
[11:08] <bernat> i've seen in kwin how to put a window in the right or left side, but not how to resize it
[11:09] <Mamarok> MelisU: as I said, you need to combine it, you can't map the key alone, since it is a meta key, like Ctrl and Alt
[11:09] <Mamarok> the only key you can map stuff to is the Menu key on the right
[11:10] <Mamarok> bernat: well, I don't think Windows 7 actually resizes it, unless they combine it with some mosaic feature
[11:10] <bernat> http://lifehacker.com/5077728/snap-any-window-to-half-the-screen-size-in-windows-7
[11:10] <Mamarok> bernat: btw, Win 7 didn't invent that snapping, KDE does that since version 2 IIRC
[11:11] <bernat> ok, i just ask how to do it, i'm not saying windows 7 is better
[11:12] <Mamarok> bernat: well, the snapping is available, half the size not
[11:12] <Mamarok> I guess the combined it with some other feature, like the mosaic view
[11:13] <Tierfreund41> Hallo zusammen
[11:13] <bernat> Mamarok: thank you for your help
[11:19] <squoter> who speak russian?)
[11:20] <kavurt> !ru:squoter
[11:21] <squoter> !ru:squoter
[11:21] <squoter> this is only english speaking channel?
[11:21] <kavurt> squoter: do you know that there's ubuntu-ru
[11:21] <Brummbaer> Do u know a german speaking chan ?
[11:21] <squoter> )
[11:22] <Mamarok> bernat: you are welcome :)
[11:23] <DarkriftX> Brummbaer: i think its -de (prob wrong though)
[11:24] <squoter> kavur, thnx for ubuntu-ru, i don't know
[11:25] <MelisU> Mamarok: Thanks for the hint, thing is the key mapper does not recognize the other windows key :(
[11:26] <MelisU> it seems to be hard mapped to properties
[11:26] <MelisU> or right click
[11:27] <Mamarok> MelisU: well, right click is for context menus by default
[11:27] <Mamarok> MelisU: check if it actually shows up in your keyboard layout, it should see it
[11:29] <MelisU> Mamarok: OK thanks, so where would I do that? The key works though.
[11:32] <Mamarok> MelisU: in the regional settings, where you definte the keyboard layout
[11:32] <Mamarok> -t
[11:32] <Kottizen> hi
[11:32] <Kottizen> kubuntu 8.10 at/amd propiretary FGLRX graphics driver
[11:32] <Kottizen> i need it
[11:32] <dylan_> hello everyone, is there any documentation for the new netbook interface, i can't locate on the kubuntu wiki?
[11:32] <Kottizen> if i try hardware drivers i see it in the list
[11:32] <Kottizen> but
[11:33] <FloodBotK1> Kottizen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <Kottizen> i can't click at the buttom
[11:33] <abhi_> hi all
[11:33] <Brummbaer>  /msg NickServ identify tier1freu2
[11:33] <Kottizen> x)
[11:33] <Brummbaer> ???????????
[11:34] <MelisU> :)
[11:42] <abhi_> hi
[11:42] <MelisU> Mamarok: Thanks, I looked for keyboard layout at keyboard&mouse .. silly me.
[11:42] <abhi_> any one here?
[11:43] <abhi_> join /ubuntu
[11:43] <abhi_> #join /ubuntu
[11:43] <abhi_> how to join in new chat room?
[11:44] <abhi_> i forget it?
[11:44] <JediMaster> abhi_, /join #ubuntu
[11:44] <abhi_> thanz
[11:44] <i_is_broke>  /join #ubuntu
[11:44] <Tesssa> type /join and channel
[11:44] <JediMaster> hmmm, am I right in thinking that the perceived font sizes are relative to the size of the display?
[11:44] <JediMaster> so they are actually worked out in dpi
[11:45] <JediMaster> in other words, why I can't read any of the default fonts on my 37" tv
[11:45] <Kottizen> I've found a bug in Kubuntu 9.10, where whould I go?
[11:45] <i_is_broke> Kottizen, launchpad, i believe.
[11:45] <JediMaster> because it's low dpi screen the fonts are reduced in size
[11:45] <JediMaster> rather than being relative to the screen resolution
[11:45] <Kottizen> i_is_broke: Do you have a link? :)
[11:46] <MelisU> Mamarok: I tried a few german keyboards, but the key won't work .. I guess I have to use a combination :( .. Sucks when I hold my netbook :((
[11:46] <JediMaster> I have a laptop and desktop with fresh kubuntu installs and I can read the fonts fine, but on my server with the 37" TV, I can't read the fonts as they're so small
[11:46] <i_is_broke> !bugs
[11:46] <Mamarok> MelisU: hm, possible it does only work as a meta key in Linux, I never really tried TBH
[11:48] <MelisU> Mamarok: Well, the key works. Menues pop up when I press it. I just cannot map it with the GUI.
[11:48] <JediMaster> can anyone confirm the font size scaling with the physical size of the monitor (not width/height in pixels)?
[11:49] <JediMaster> the default font sizes of 8pt work fine on my other machines, on my server/(37")TV I have to up them to 14 to be readable
[11:50] <JediMaster> it looks like it's trying to make 8pt text appear the same physical size on all monitors (or any pt size for that matter)
[11:50] <Mamarok> JediMaster: that very much depends on the dpi of the screen
[11:50] <JediMaster> Mamarok, it's very low
[11:51] <JediMaster> Mamarok, 1080i (not p) @ 37"
[11:51] <Mamarok> there you have your explanation
[11:51] <JediMaster> Mamarok, Ubuntu (not kubuntu) never did that
[11:51] <JediMaster> I could easily read the default font size
[11:51] <JediMaster> now it's so small that you can't actually read it because it's too pixelated
[11:51] <JediMaster> looks like gnome scaled the font sizes to the width/height in pixels
[11:51] <JediMaster> brb
[11:55] <JediMaster> Mamarok, I can see why it happens, but there should really be a limit on how small it makes the default font, because the OS is unusable if only because I know roughly where everything is and can see the icons
[11:56] <Mamarok> JediMaster: please file a bug on http://bugs.kde.org
[11:57] <MelisU> Mamarok: Cool, the special keys on my EeePC mostly work .. I just use the first. Good solution for now :) Thanks again.
[12:01] <neceve> hi guys. about a week I've searched for a solution to detect my AC adaptor on my laptop. looks like hal is going wrong: ac_adapter.present = true  (bool)
[12:01] <neceve> someone knows about this problem on 9.10 64-bit ?
[12:04] <samy> jemand da der mir helfen kann meine ati radeon mobility m6 fehler frei zum laufen zu bekommen
[12:06] <Rittler> Hi @ all here
[12:07] <i_is_broke> !hi
[12:07] <Rittler> I need some help with dns
[12:09] <Rittler> dns seems to work from terminal but doesn't work from within apache - so I followed the flow as far as finding that apache normally makes a system call to resolve urls - so I guess it's an issue concering my jaunty installation
[12:16] <JediMaster> Mamarok, I'm thinking this is an Xorg issue rather than KDE maybe?
[12:20] <fl4shb4ck> hi there :) may someone help me: my hibernate / suspend-function doesn't work :( when I start my laptop again, music continues etc but my screen keeps black :-/
[12:21] <JediMaster> Mamarok, NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (42, 42); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
[12:21] <JediMaster> Mamarok, 42dpi!!! no wonder the fonts are unreadable, that's from Xorg's log
[12:21] <Rittler> fl4shb4ck did you try to manually activate your display through the function keys after wake up?
[12:22] <fl4shb4ck> yes, no respond
[12:22] <Rittler> fla4shb4ck perhaps you got acpi, acpid and laptop-tools/mode running?
[12:23] <shadeslayer> hey anyone try usb-creator-kde? does it work for you?
[12:23] <fl4shb4ck> I've also tried a tip from the web, "first alt+strg(ctrl)+f2 and then alt+strg(ctrl)+f7"
[12:23] <fl4shb4ck> so my screen gets backlight, and the cursor is there
[12:23] <fl4shb4ck> but I can't do anything else
[12:24] <fl4shb4ck> Rittler: what is that? ^^
[12:24] <Rittler> fl4shb4ck is acpi running?
[12:24] <fl4shb4ck> I'm a relative linux-newbie
[12:25] <Rittler> fl4shb4ck enter into a console: lsmod | grep acpi
[12:25] <fl4shb4ck> and now?
[12:25] <Rittler> what does it say?
[12:25] <fl4shb4ck> nothing
[12:25] <fl4shb4ck> ;D
[12:25] <Rittler> so no acpi
[12:26] <Rittler> you gotta install acpi
[12:26] <fl4shb4ck> and what's that?
[12:26] <Rittler> controls battery sensors n stuff
[12:27] <fl4shb4ck> fl4shb4ck@laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install acpi
[12:27] <fl4shb4ck> [sudo] password for fl4shb4ck:
[12:27] <fl4shb4ck> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[12:27] <fl4shb4ck> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[12:27] <fl4shb4ck> Lese Status-Informationen ein... Fertig
[12:27] <FloodBotK1> fl4shb4ck: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <fl4shb4ck> acpi ist schon die neueste Version
[12:27] <fl4shb4ck> did these lines come?
[12:28] <fl4shb4ck> it tells me its already installed
[12:29] <Rittler> fl4shb4ck sry - i'm no kubuntu expert...
[12:31] <jussio1> !paste | fl4shb4ck
[12:32] <fl4shb4ck> yes I know
[12:33] <fl4shb4ck> does someone know a solution?
[12:33] <federico> !list
[12:33] <federico> !bot
[12:35] <fedeanimation> qualcuno mi aiuta?
[12:36] <i_is_broke> !it
[12:40] <lovre> there is no GRUB settings in system settings in karmic... where can i find that?
[12:41] <Rittler> lovre /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:41] <lovre> Rittler: i was thinking a gui would make it easier, but ill search for proper instructions.. ty
[12:42] <lovre> Rittler: and there is no such file
[12:43] <Rittler> lovre it should be where you installed /boot to
[12:43] <lovre> Rittler: i didnt configure anything, i just installed regular
[12:44] <Rittler> lovre then it should be under /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:44] <lovre> Rittler: even if its grub2?
[12:45] <hackndoes_> Rittler:it doesn't in karmic
[12:45] <hackndoes_> don't know where it is though will search a bit
[12:45] <Rittler> hackndoes_ oh didn't know that - using jaunty here
[12:45] <lovre> hackndoes_: /etc/default/grub is something?
[12:47] <lovre> hackndoes_: the problem is i dont see timeout in grub, and i have to manually press enter. But everything is in order in the config file....
[12:47] <hackndoes_> it's ok
[12:47] <hackndoes_> looking for the file
[12:47] <hackndoes_> seems like it's grub.cfg file
[12:48] <hackndoes_> don't edit that though it's not meant to be edited
[12:48] <lovre> hackndoes_: yes i see... /etc/default/grub file has the options for editing
[12:50] <hackndoes_> yes looks like it, great
[12:50] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[12:51] <lovre> hackndoes_: ok i have set it to be hidden if i cant have a normal countdown, and see what happens..
[12:51] <lovre> BluesKaj: hi :D
[12:51] <Rittler> concerning my dns problem - I now found out that xampp doesn't even send a DNS query
[12:51] <hackndoes_> gr8
[12:51] <BluesKaj> hi lovre
[12:52] <BluesKaj> !u | hackndoes_
[12:52] <hackndoes_> lovre: don't forget to run "update-grub"
[12:53] <BluesKaj> hackndoes_, that also applies to gr8
[12:53] <lovre> hackndoes_: oh, i almost forgot that, thanx :)
[12:53] <hackndoes_> and what are you? school teacher or something, i didn't hear any comlaints yet
[12:53] <lovre> hackndoes_: erm, there are two commands, update-grub and update-grub2.... which one?
[12:54] <hackndoes_> lovre: ur welcome
[12:54] <BluesKaj> once grub2  is installed  update-grub works
[12:54] <hackndoes_> in my default/grub it says update-grub
[12:54] <hackndoes_> just do what you file says
[12:55] <lovre> hackndoes_: kk
[12:55] <hackndoes_> :)
[12:55] <lovre> hackndoes_: wow, its cool, even found my windows partition that was long forgotten :))))
[12:56] <BluesKaj> hackndoes_, just a friendly reminder that IM lingo doesn't apply on irc due to the number of non-native English speakers
[12:57] <hackndoes_> yes, grub as opposed to other systems boot loaders, are willing to identify and even boot other systems, not sure it will boot your windows thought
[12:57] <hackndoes_> though
[12:57] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: OK
[12:58] <lovre> hackndoes_: who cares if it doesnt, ill format it.. :) even better
[12:58] <BluesKaj> yes grub2 has it's advantages over legacy-grub
[12:59] <hackndoes_> all grub versions i used knew windows partitions and booting them
[12:59] <hackndoes_> it's wierd though it didn't recognize it at install time, but only now in update-grub
[12:59] <BluesKaj> lovre, your windows partition should boot as long as the windows mbr is ok
[12:59] <lovre> BluesKaj: it is.. thx
[12:59] <shadeslayer> hey anyone try usb-creator-kde? does it work for you?
[12:59] <Rittler> where do I set my local dns in jaunty?
[13:00] <lovre> BluesKaj: offtopic, what is the default decorator for gnome?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> some wouldn't see windows  if the windows mbr was missing
[13:00] <BluesKaj> lovre, dunno ,haven't used gnome in ages
[13:02] <i_is_broke> have they fixed karmic to run in vbox or is it still iffy?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Rittler, check /etc/hosts
[13:03] <Rittler> BluesKaj how should it look like?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Rittler, usually <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:04] <Rittler> BluesKaj thats just the loopback - but where is dns?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> that's localhost
[13:06] <maco> i_is_broke: uh ive used it in vbox. seemed fine aside from the part where i didnt give the vm enough memory
[13:07] <i_is_broke> ah i just tried to use my beta disk, and it froze loading so i was just wondering,.
[13:07] <maco> lovre: gnome has metacity as its default window manager. metacity has its decorator built in
[13:08] <maco> lovre: ubuntu also ships compiz as an alternative wm with gnome. it uses gtk-window-decorator by default in order to use metacity themes. other options include emerald (unmaintained) and kde-window-decorator
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Rittler, what are you trying to do , doesn't your router assign auto dns ?
[13:08] <lovre> maco: so is it ok to run: metacity --replace?
[13:08] <maco> yes
[13:09] <lovre> maco: ok, thanx, you have been a great help
[13:09] <Rittler> BluesKaj in effect I'm trying to make my xampp resolve urls ...
[13:13] <a_ok> i Just upgraded but now all the sudden I don't have anything to manage my software
[13:13] <a_ok> what is the default gui app for apt in kubuntu?
[13:14] <a_ok> 9.10 that is
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Rittler, sorry , I'm not much on server knowledge , our resident networking/server guru will be here in an hr or so aka (genii)
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Unless someone else can help ?
[13:15] <i_is_broke> a_ok, kpackagekit
[13:15] <a_ok> Missed the question
[13:15] <a_ok> i_is_broke: thanks
[13:15] <i_is_broke> a_ok, np yw
[13:16] <i_is_broke> sorry half asleep..lol...not quite with it yet...long day yesterday and it lasted all day and night.
[13:19] <kankan_> how to show trashcan and home folder on desktop?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Rittler, not sure but maybe this will help http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-users/200910.mbox/%3C1254383578.15009.51.camel@testicle%3E
[13:20] <i_is_broke> BluesKaj, i like that, the last of it says<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:21] <BluesKaj> i_is_broke, dunno it's not eaxactly linux , didn't realize that's it's avista how to
[13:21] <kankan_> how to show trashcan and home folder on desktop?on karmic.
[13:22] <BluesKaj> I hate getting windows sites when I search in google-linux ...google needs to more filtering
[13:22] <BluesKaj> do
[13:22] <eos> hi everyone ! I can't install the gpg key of kubuntu backport ppa in order to upgrade KDE
[13:22] <i_is_broke> ya keep their crap to bing!
[13:23] <kaddi_> BluesKaj: google-linux? that sounds like a great thing I know nothing about :D
[13:24] <cosmic303> hello all. im havin a problem with a fresh install of kubuntu 9.10. i get the grub error 15. the entries in grub.cfg and device-map look fine to me...anyone available for help?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> kaddi_, http://www.google.com/linux
[13:25] <kaddi_> awesome!
[13:26] <cinex> hi
[13:26] <cinex> buying a new pc, which graphics cards will work (except nvidia) ?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> nvidia works
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ;)
[13:27] <cinex> not ati ?
[13:27] <i_is_broke> i have intel and nvidia working...
[13:27] <kaddi_> BluesKaj: do you know if there is a switch I can use when typing in a normal google search window?
[13:27] <cosmic303> what device would grub use in his device-map for /dev/sdb?
[13:28] <cosmic303> right now it says (hd1) ..and the grub.cfg says (hd1,1) ...is that about right?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> kaddi_, I just the bookmark it on the bookmark toolbar in my browser
[13:30] <cinex> sounds ok cosmic303 sda1 would be hd0,0 i think
[13:30] <cinex> or hd0,1
[13:31] <cosmic303> thats what i thought..still i get error 15, and google says thats "file not found" :(
[13:31] <cinex> so sdb would be hd1
[13:31] <cinex> i used to get that
[13:31] <cinex> are u installing to a memory stick ?
[13:31] <cosmic303> nope..s-ata disc
[13:31] <cosmic303> hdd
[13:31] <cinex> k
[13:31] <cinex> tryed putting the commands in the grub console (by hand)
[13:31] <cinex> have you tried **
[13:32] <cosmic303> if u tell me how to get there from the live-cd i might try that. never had to deal with grub before :(
[13:32] <cinex> ill google
[13:33] <cinex> when u install grub does it find the files ok >?
[13:33] <kankan_> how to show trashcan and home folder on desktop?on karmic.
[13:34] <cinex> kankan_: i think its a widget
[13:34] <cosmic303> hold on cinex, i think i found some wiki, ill try that first :)
[13:34] <cinex> ok cosmic303
[13:38] <cosmic303> wohooo...apparently i made it! had to chroot and do a new grub installation
[13:39] <cosmic303> no clue why it didn work at first though..
[13:41] <zizzone80> buongiorno a tutti
[13:42] <i_is_broke> well just downloaded the 9.10 release, lets see if it hangs too..ill probably have a gazillion things to change considering i download ubuntu and not kubuntu..:(
[13:45] <BluesKaj> kankan_, for folders , just drag and drop , trashcan I'm not sure
[13:49]  * shadeslayer wonders how many new users were added...
[13:49] <gcala>  hi, I need operator help since I can remember my password; my last access was several weeks ago and yesterday I formatted and installed karmic without save quassel config. Is there a way to get it back? Thanks
[13:50] <shadeslayer> gcala: /msg nickserv help
[13:50] <shadeslayer> gcala: or go to #freenode for more help
[13:50] <gcala> ok, thanks. I'll try
[13:52] <shadeslayer> gcala: also see : /msg nickserv help SETPASS
[13:54] <gcala>  /msg nickserv help SETPASS
[13:55] <shadeslayer> gcala: without a space befire / ;)
[13:55] <shadeslayer> *before
[13:55] <shadeslayer> bye all
[13:55] <gcala> error copying
[13:59] <gcala> shadeslayer: SETPASS help says that to set a new password I need a key emailed to me: do you know how to get it?
[14:00] <stanley> hello everyone
[14:16] <gcala> Does anybody know how get the SETPASS key for replace a password?
[14:16] <Pici> gcala: For your IRC password?
[14:16] <gcala> yes
[14:17] <Pici> gcala: best to ask in #freenode
[14:19] <gcala> Pici: I asked it there too but for the moment no response
[14:27] <tarax> hi leute ist einer da ???
[14:27] <tarax> ich hab ne frage
[14:28] <Pici> !de | tarax
[14:28] <tarax> hello
[14:28] <tarax> i boruht help iḿ german
[14:28] <mTbK1> hello there
[14:28] <tarax> mTbK can you german ??
[14:29] <mTbK1> no, i can't
[14:29] <tarax> hm
[14:29] <tarax> i will installing ICQ
[14:30] <tarax> mTbK1 i have Kopete but who can tipping my ICQ Number
[14:32] <vbgunz> I've been trying to solve a subtle bug and its annoying. When I boot up the system, right before I see my KDM theme, I get a flash of the AIR background (I think)... it looks so broken when it does this. Is this a bug and is there a fix?
[14:38] <vbgunz> I'll keep trying
[14:38] <prophet> hi .. may i ask a question ? :D
[14:45] <basti> hallo
[14:46] <ulysses__> how can I add a new application launcher to Daisy dock? System Karmic Koala (9.10), Daisy installed via apt-get, package name plasma-widget-daisy, version <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:46] <basti> i dont know...
[14:49] <prophet> does someone know howto connect a huawei e156 on kubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:04] <alex___> hi everyone, I got a problem with plasma in kubunru karmic ..., i get just a black screen , but I can open applications using krunner
[15:05] <JontheEchidna> alex___: try starting plasma-desktop from krunner
[15:06] <alex___> yeah , it worked ...
[15:06] <alex___> so now , what should I do , in order to start it always at startup ?
[15:08] <JontheEchidna> so this means that plasma isn't starting for you at startup?
[15:09] <alex___> yeah ....
[15:09] <JontheEchidna> sounds like it's crashing when it tries to start up initially
[15:10] <alex___> JontheEchidna: or simply doesn't start ... ?
[15:10] <alex___> I mean , should I get a crash report if it crash ...., normally ....
[15:13] <JontheEchidna> I really don't know :(
[15:14] <tom__> alex___: try rebooting now.. maybe it'll work now that you have started it once..
[15:14] <alex___> I tried, is the same ...
[15:14] <tom__> if it does not work after. this..  sorry... I have no idea...  But i used to have the same problem in jaunty...
[15:15] <tom__> do you have any important data in your .kde folder alex___?
[15:15] <alex___> I think that something I installed , change some config file about plasma startup ...
[15:15] <tom__> maybe its worth deleting that folder...
[15:16] <tom__> thatwill get you a complete "untouched" kde again, when you log out and log in again...
[15:16] <alex___> tom__: I try it as well, doesn't fix the problem ...
[15:16] <tom__> well.... i guess its not related to any plasma-stuff then :)
[15:17] <alex___> I don't know, there is a  kind a list of apps config file to startup ?
[15:18] <tom__> yeah...  that's rgiht.. but it's located in the .kde folder, too.. so this shouldn't be the reason, since you deleted that folder
[15:18] <tom__> its in .kde/autostart
[15:19] <tom__> sorry..  i dont know enough of KDE to help you from here...   at least I tried ^^
[15:19] <tom__> alex___:
[15:19] <alex___> I have no file inside that folder ... :O
[15:20] <tom__> i would recommend you to find some kind of a log file
[15:20] <tom__> and go on from there
[15:23] <alex___> ok thanks a lot tom__....
[15:26] <varanus> guys why on karmic when i plug-in a usb mass storage device i don't have directly write perimissions like in jaunty? it recognises and mounts it without problems but it doesn't give me write permissions
[15:29] <JediMaster> Mamarok, I've sorted the tiny fonts problem, in appearances->fonts there's a setting to force the fonts to a particular DPI, so I've set it to 96dpi, and everything looks fine after restarting kdm, it was because nvidia drivers were picking up the fact it was a 37" TV and calculating (correctly) the dpi to 40dpi or so, which meant pt 8 text was unreadable (all default fonts in kde), now everything's fine =)
[15:31] <osvaldo> hello, I need some help.
[15:34] <JediMaster> osvaldo, ask your question, someone should reply at some point =)
[15:35] <kde185> Is KDE 4.3.3 going to be made available as an update for 9.10?  I thought that this release was going to include the monthly KDE updates
[15:36] <osvaldo> I am using kubuntu 9.10. I have 2 ide cd. But i can't read from the 1st (master). Are there a solution?
[15:37] <Dragnslcr> kde185- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.3
[15:38] <kde185> Dragnslcr: I've read that, but I'd like to avoid using the backports.  It seems once I start installing updates from there the quality of Kubuntu starts to degrade.
[16:05] <vjkjrj> need people who speak russian// plz
[16:06] <rork> !ru |vjkjrj
[16:07] <vjkjrj> thnx
[16:16] <kankan_> anyone !!help me pls..
[16:16] <Ash-Fox> Try asking a question.
[16:17] <kankan_> i am having a problem in my kubuntu karmic.but whenever i try to log in for first time i get a blank irresponsive screen.and cant log in.
[16:18] <Ash-Fox> I don't know anything about that, but someone else here might be typing a response that does know.
[16:19] <kankan_> and my shut down and resart button is also missing.
[16:21] <christer__> #lukaug09
[16:34] <toor__> test
[16:53] <UbuntuN00b_> hi I have no sound in flash videos
[17:02] <ratman> Hi, I've installed kde in ubuntu karmic and I have a couple of small configuration problems.
[17:03] <ratman> In amarok I don't know how to configure the lyrics, they don't appear and I don't know how to get them.
[17:03] <lorecaster> I know that there's a samba chat room, but no one's helping in there... i've got permissions errors between windows guest and koala host... can anyone here help me?
[17:03] <ratman> It's the first time I use amarok for kde4
[17:03] <ratman> could you help me?
[17:04] <i_is_broke> ratman, let me look at my settings and see what it says.
[17:04] <ratman> In my amarok settings there's no lyrics tab or icon
[17:06] <urthmover> new to ubuntu...installed kubuntu 9.10 64 on a Dell e6400 laptop...I've tried the install twice and both times once I reboot after the install I get to a login screen....type my user/pass...screen goes blank....shows a little asci...then a new graphical login screen shows up....What should I do?
[17:07] <urthmover> excuse me  new to kubuntu
[17:07] <ratman> don't worry, thanks for trying to help out!
[17:07] <i_is_broke> ratman, check under settings, config amarok and see if there is a setting in there..
[17:08] <UbuntuN00b> flash makes konqueror hangs
[17:08] <ratman> so, I should have missed some package or something because I see None
[17:08] <tomdavidson> urthmover: sounds like x is crashing. what is your video adapter?
[17:08] <urthmover> nvidia 160NVS
[17:09] <i_is_broke> ratman, do you have the restricted-extras loaded?
[17:09] <urthmover> I guess I can boot into recovery mode and install the nvidia drivers
[17:09] <ratman> yes, I have them.
[17:09] <Guilo44> hi
[17:09] <zzillezz> evening folks
[17:09] <Guilo44> I am using kubuntu 9.10 and have a question
[17:09] <urthmover> tomdavidson: so install the nvidia drivers using recovery console....then try again?
[17:09] <ratman> It might be something related with ruby?
[17:09] <Guilo44> is it possible to add some extra desktop effects or to use the ones from compiz ?
[17:10] <tomdavidson> urthmover: no. i think the os nv drviers should work. have you tried to install the closed drivers?
[17:10] <ratman> tomdavidson I don't think you can install the compiz effects, but I'm no expert.
[17:10] <urthmover> tomdavidson: nope  trying that now
[17:10] <urthmover> tomdavidson: I'll update in here in a sec
[17:11] <tomdavidson> sure but the lack of compiz isnt crashing x
[17:11] <tomdavidson> i do not think it is the driver
[17:11] <ratman> sorry, I meant guillo44, you can't install the compiz effects
[17:11] <tomdavidson> it prob a misconfig. maybe you should get it working first and then try the 3d accel later
[17:11] <UbuntuN00b> my experience with kuuntu is horrible :-(
[17:12] <lorecaster> anyone here proficient with samba at all? anyone?
[17:12] <ratman> lorecaster, what problem do you have with samba, I'm no expert, but I tried it a couple of times.
[17:12] <urthmover> tomdavidson: installed drivers...rebooting now
[17:13] <lorecaster> i'm having permissions problem, Ratman, "network access denied"... i've got the administrator username added as a user in samba on the ubuntu sysetem, and the shares are read/write
[17:13] <zzillezz> why quassel as irc client and not the newly released konversation 1.2 ?
[17:14] <ratman> I've had problems in ubuntu karmic when trying to connect to samba shares.
[17:14] <urthmover> tomdavidson: nope .... I still get the graphical login ....I type my user/pass.....screen goes blank for a second...then the graphical login pops back  What do you suggest?
[17:14] <ratman> It connected but after denying the access a couple of times.
[17:14] <tomdavidson> ya, well since you have an nvdia card i said it prob wasnt a driver issue.
[17:15] <wilsby29> should I install 64 or 32bit kubuntu?
[17:15] <wilsby29> I don't know which one to download for my new intel i7
[17:15] <tomdavidson> how did you install the closed drivers?
[17:15] <ratman> It seems to me that the nautilus support for samba in karmic is a little flacky. Have to asked in #ubuntu or look in the bug tracker?
[17:16] <ratman> wilsby29 if you don't how which one to pick I recomend to you the 32 version. The 64 should work ok, but for some packages some extra problems might appear.
[17:16] <ratman> If you're and experienced user go for the 64 bit.
[17:17] <ratman> Ah! and if you're new to linux and you have problems with kubuntu try with ubuntu, there's more documentation in internet for it.
[17:17] <urthmover> tomdavidson: are closed drivers the ones that you can download from NVIDIA Unix drivers page.....NVIDIA.180.run ish looking file name....I bootied in the recover mode...ran telinit 3 ... logged in  then  sudo sh NVIDIA180.run
[17:17] <urthmover> tomdavidson: if those are not the drivers you meant...then how do I go about install 'closed drivers'
[17:18] <ratman> I have other problem. My gtk apps look awful. In the systemsettings I can configure the gtk syte, but I don't now which to choose.
[17:19] <urthmover> tomdavidson: specifically the drivers I installed was NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.36-pkg2.run
[17:19] <drcode> hi all
[17:19] <ratman> Right now I'm with the clearlooks, but firefox looks like and ancient style, not like the ubuntu clearlooks.
[17:19] <ratman> Any hint?
[17:19] <drcode> can I expand the kubuntu search to search also in google and so?
[17:20] <ratman> drcode, sure, just do alt+ f2 and in the widget write "gg: whateveryouwanttosearch"
[17:21] <BluesKaj> urthmover, for what it's worth , the nvidia sourced driver tutorial in simple terms : http://www.pastebin.ca/1659745
[17:21] <eduardo> hola
[17:21] <urthmover> BluesKaj: thanks...looking at the link
[17:21] <drcode> ratman, thanx, I didn't know
[17:21] <tomdavidson> urthmover: well, youv used an install script from the vendor to change your system. you didnt even use the kubuntu way of installing the drivers.  i think you should restor your system to the os nv drivers and get it working... then use jockey to install nvidea
[17:21] <ratman> you're welcome
[17:21] <tomdavidson> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:21] <eduardo> alguien habla español?
[17:22] <ratman> sí, pero este canal es en inglés, creo que hay un canal de ubuntu en castellano
[17:22] <tomdavidson> and good for unloading /purging the nvida drivers installed with your script
[17:22] <tomdavidson> and google that is
[17:22] <Pici> !es | eduardo
[17:23] <drcode> ratman, dosn't work
[17:23] <ratman> what does not work? The gg: shortcut?
[17:23] <whirleystar> hi folks... i'm still having issues with karmic and my video
[17:23] <drcode> yes
[17:24] <eduardo> gracias
[17:24] <ratman> It's strange, because that's just a kde feature. Try the same in the konqueror location bar.
[17:25] <BluesKaj> whirleystar, what graphics card ?
[17:25] <whirleystar> intel gm965
[17:26] <drcode> k
[17:26] <drcode> it work
[17:27] <ratman> well, you can do the same in the alt+f2 dialog, try it now!
[17:30] <BluesKaj> whirleystar, are you on jaunty or karmic ?
[17:33] <urthmover> tomdavidson: BluesKaj: so I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...then went through http://www.pastebin.ca/1659745 which installs  nvidia-glx-185   still I keep getting dumped back to the graphical login....Anything else I can try?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> urthmover, did you remove the existing driver first?
[17:35] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: karmic, talking with intel folks too, so sorry for the delays
[17:36] <urthmover> BluesKaj: how do I remove the existing driver?  I was under the impression that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  purges the drivers
[17:36] <ratman> :) I've solved my lyrics problem in the karmic amarok. I've installed the ultimate lyric script from kde.apps
[17:36] <urthmover> BluesKaj: what do you reccomend to remove the existing drivers?
[17:36] <ratman> now for the gtk problem!
[17:37] <ratman> Any hint on which gtk style should I use in the system settings to have nice looking gtk apps?
[17:38] <apparle> ratman: can you send me the link to the lyrics script
[17:39] <macken> ratman> I use fruit-black-normal. I prefer the darker themes
[17:39] <ratman> here you have it: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Ultimate+Lyrics?content=108967
[17:39] <BluesKaj> urthmover, that depends on what options you chose , but sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx-(drivernumber) should do it
[17:39] <urthmover> ok BluesKaj I'll try that
[17:40] <ratman> macken> I don't have that one installed but I'm trying and every theme gives me the same ugly result
[17:41] <ratman> I guess I might have something misconfigured. Remember that I've installed kde in ubuntu, I tried to install kubuntu but the installer died on me.
[17:41] <bigbrovar> hey guys, is there a way to fix the broken kde integration with openoffice on kubuntu karmic
[17:42] <ratman> My openoffice is well integrated.
[17:43] <bigbrovar> wow is am i the one things dont work for. mine looks like something from win95
[17:43] <ratman> have you the package openoffice.org-style-oxygen installed?
[17:43] <bigbrovar> and it was like that ootb
[17:43] <piquadrat> Hi! Is knetworkmanager in karmic supposed to work? I can configure wireless networks, but I can't click on the network in the context menu to connect to it
[17:43] <bigbrovar> ok let me check
[17:43] <ratman> I've got the same problem with the gtk apps :(
[17:43] <macken> ratman> what graphics card an d driver are you using
[17:44] <ratman> I have an intel 965, it was a nightmare in jaunty, but in karmic is quite alright.
[17:45] <ratman> I don't think my gtk problem is related to that. It seems that the gtk apps are using a default legacy theme.
[17:45] <macken> ratman>are you able to use the extras in kwin. such as cube and visual effects
[17:45] <ratman> I guess it should be a misconfiguration in the gtk engine.
[17:45] <ratman> Yeah, kwin is rocking great :)
[17:46] <ratman> machen> are you in karmic?
[17:46] <macken> ratman>yes, have had not problems since did clean install . using nvidia graphics
[17:47] <ratman> I don't know about nvidia, have you check on the forums?
[17:47] <ratman> If that's a general problem a lot of people should be complaining by now.
[17:48] <bigbrovar> ratman> yep OO.o oxyen style is installed. ( but gtk apps works fine here OOTB)
[17:48] <ratman> I'm sorry, but I have to leave the channel now, I'll try to be around soon.
[17:48] <bigbrovar> ratman> I tot it was a general bug cus i had it immediately i installed kubuntu karmic
[17:54] <naenil> Bonjour
[17:55] <Rodensky> 9.10 sucked... feels a windows based ubuntu... :-( moved back to 9.04 :D
[17:55] <Rodensky> *like a
[17:57] <Turin> Hello
[17:57] <Turin> I have a problem with samba shares
[17:58] <Turin> When i  try to open them with smb:// dolphin just wont run, but when i open shares via network browsing it works fine
[17:59] <Turin> After trying smb:// i have to use kdm restart to work with dolphin
[17:59] <Turin> Any suggestions?
[18:01] <lamik> Witam :)
[18:07] <stoyan4aluck> hi
[18:08] <twoh> hi'
[18:08] <thrz> hello
[18:08] <twoh> is there someone from ind?
[18:08] <stoyan4aluck> why
[18:09] <thrz> I got troubles getting mobile broadband working in knetworkmanager, it seems to be imposible to make the connection dial up
[18:09] <twoh> nope
[18:09] <robin0800> twoh: try kppp
[18:09] <twoh> yes, im online from LAN access
[18:10] <twoh> what is kppp?
[18:10] <robin0800> thrz: try kppp
[18:10] <stoyan4aluck> check  utilities
[18:10] <stoyan4aluck> you'll see it there
[18:10] <thrz> is it installed by default? I dont have any other connetion atm
[18:10] <robin0800> ! kppp
[18:10] <stoyan4aluck> yeah
[18:11] <twoh> is that a channel? kppp
[18:11] <thrz> anything special to do? or just create a connection
[18:11] <stoyan4aluck> if you are running Linux you should know it
[18:12] <robin0800> twoh: its a modem dialer
[18:12] <lamik> This is english channel?
[18:12] <Pici> Yes.
[18:12] <Pici> !pl
[18:13] <lamik> Thx :)
[18:13] <twoh> its global channel i guess
[18:14] <twoh> adakah yang kaskuser?
[18:16] <jonathan__> hey guys, i am currently running a old kubuntu but when i go to package kit to update my package list says it needs to be rebuild
[18:16] <jonathan__> how do i rebuild it
[18:16] <twoh> whats version?
[18:16] <bipolar> Can anyone tell me what files I need to edit to disable distrobution upgrades for kpackagekit? I'm rolling out a new image for my office workstations and need make sure nobody clicks that 'upgrade' button.
[18:17] <jonathan__> jaunty
[18:17] <jonathan__> want karmic
[18:17] <jonathan__> ok ok
[18:17] <jonathan__> wait i  did sudo apt-get update
[18:17] <jonathan__> and its complaining about line 57
[18:17] <jonathan__> will i just delete it
[18:18] <jonathan__> :(
[18:19] <jonathan__> any ideas?
[18:19] <rork> jonathan__ what is line 57?
[18:19] <jonathan__> em well do you know what file its talking about
[18:19] <jonathan__> cause i cant see lines in kpackage kit
[18:19] <bipolar> jonathan__: probbaly /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:19] <jonathan__> the sources file
[18:20] <jonathan__> nice
[18:20] <jonathan__> 2 seconds
[18:20] <twoh> well, i simply using an update manager to upgrade my ubuntu
[18:21] <jonathan__> fs i cant save
[18:21] <stoyan4aluck> you can't upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 not possible
[18:21] <jonathan__> i need to su to save?
[18:21] <bipolar> jonathan__: sudo
[18:21] <jonathan__> i have kdevelop open and the changes made
[18:22] <jonathan__> do i have to close kdevevlop
[18:22] <bipolar> jonathan__: too late :P
[18:22] <jonathan__> open su kate and do it again?
[18:22] <twoh> yes, first you must upgrade to Intrepix
[18:22] <bipolar> jonathan__: open up a terminal, run 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[18:22] <bipolar> jonathan__: make your changes, then Ctrl+X to exit. it will ask you if you want to save.
[18:23] <jonathan__> wait
[18:23] <jonathan__> it says unknow id nano
[18:23] <bipolar> not su.... sudo
[18:23] <robin0800> jonathan__: try kate
[18:23] <bipolar> it will ask you for your users password
[18:23] <jonathan__> ok i got her lit
[18:24] <robin0800> jonathan__: kdesudo for kate
[18:24] <jonathan__> apparently my sources file is blank
[18:24] <jonathan__> :s
[18:24] <bipolar> jonathan__: 0.o
[18:24] <jonathan__> would it be as handy to just download the cd
[18:24] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: so, i've chatted with the intel folks in the intel-gfx channel-- there is no prob with hardware or driver because i can runlevel=3 and startx without an issue
[18:24] <jonathan__> for the upgrade
[18:25] <robin0800> jonathan__: youv'e opened the wrong file
[18:25] <stoyan4aluck> you can upgrade only step by step for ex 7.10 to 8.04, 8.04  to 8.10 etc...
[18:25] <bipolar> jonathan__: what version are you running now?
[18:25] <jonathan__> jaunty
[18:25] <jonathan__> 8.1
[18:25] <bipolar> jonathan__: yeah. download the CD and install
[18:25] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: intel gm965, Gateway, karmic, kubuntu, screen comes up scrambled in X and when Ctrl-Alt-F1, the login font has letters like an inch high and they look like old school dot matrix (like we're really zoomed in)
[18:26] <bipolar> jonathan__: you can't upgrade and skip versions like that anyway
[18:26] <bipolar> jonathan__: backup all your files :)
[18:26] <stoyan4aluck> yeah ,download the CD
[18:26] <rfoney> whats going on?
[18:26] <rfoney> who's power is satan?
[18:26] <jonathan__> i already did
[18:26] <jonathan__> i cant upgrade through kpackage kit
[18:26] <bipolar> jonathan__: then you're good to go.
[18:26] <stoyan4aluck> install it then
[18:27] <jonathan__> it now says under upgrade
[18:27] <davidjheinrich> does anyone know how to make a DVD-movie from AVI files?
[18:27] <rfoney> do you take divalopraic acid bipolar?
[18:27] <rfoney> or lithium carbonate?
[18:27] <jonathan__> or lysitric acid
[18:27] <jonathan__> :P
[18:27] <bipolar> jonathan__: and if you feel confortable enough, put your home directory on a seperate partition so upgrading is easier.
[18:27] <bipolar> rfoney: none of the above
[18:27] <jonathan__> eh i was going to try dual boot
[18:28] <jonathan__> can windows and kubuntu both read the same partition?
[18:28] <rfoney> windows xp?
[18:28] <jonathan__> or shall i just upgrade and worry about that later
[18:28] <bipolar> jonathan__: kubuntu can read windows ntfs, not the other way around.
[18:28] <jonathan__> stupid windows
[18:28] <bipolar> jonathan__: unless you need windows to play games, use Virtualbox.
[18:28] <robin0800> jonathan__: xp reads fat32
[18:29] <jonathan__> good idea
[18:29] <jonathan__> ok so when i hit upgrade to karmic 9.10 it fails with exit code 127
[18:29] <stoyan4aluck> Virtual box can't run all games you install on it
[18:30] <jonathan__> Distribution upgrade process exited with code 127
[18:30] <jonathan__> i heard that the performance of games was poor under wine
[18:30] <jonathan__> or virtual box or whatever
[18:30] <robin0800> jonathan__: I've heard you have to turn off xserver to upgrade
[18:31] <jonathan__> ctrl alt backspace x2
[18:31] <jonathan__> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:31] <jonathan__> ?
[18:31] <Pici> That is unnessesary.
[18:31] <Pici> jonathan__: What command are you running to upgrade to 9.10?
[18:31] <jonathan__> im not
[18:31] <jonathan__> i just went to kpackage kit and then to updates
[18:31] <stoyan4aluck> heyLinux is not for gaming
[18:32] <jonathan__> linux can run doom natively
[18:32] <stoyan4aluck> Go to aptitude
[18:32] <Pici> !upgrade
[18:33] <jonathan__> shh bot
[18:33] <jonathan__> i almost read that
[18:33] <Pici> jonathan__: Well, you should read that.
[18:33] <jonathan__> i should?
[18:33] <bipolar> stoyan4aluck: tell that to my WoW guild :P
[18:33] <jonathan__> i want to upgrade to 9.10
[18:33] <jonathan__> not 9.04
[18:34] <Pici> jonathan__: You cannot upgrade from 8.10 directly to 9.10.  You need to upgrade to 9.04 first.
[18:34] <bipolar> jonathan__: do a fresh install. It's much more sane then trying to upgrade twice.
[18:34] <jonathan__> lol
[18:34] <jonathan__> ok ok
[18:34] <jonathan__> i see
[18:34] <bipolar> jonathan__: and a lot less to download too
[18:34] <jonathan__> i had no internet for 2 months and you guys release two versions
[18:34] <stoyan4aluck> you have to have installed 8.10 to upgrade to 9.10
[18:35] <stoyan4aluck> to be able to
[18:35] <jonathan__> where do i get my version number
[18:35] <Pici> !version
[18:35] <stoyan4aluck> what version do you run??????
[18:36] <jonathan__> no lsb modules are available
[18:36] <Pici> jonathan__: And then after that?
[18:36] <ibm> hello pici i need help
[18:36] <jonathan__> after that its just back to Jonathan@JonathanPC
[18:37] <Pici> jonathan__: Are you sure you included the -a at the end of the command?
[18:37] <jonathan__> lol
[18:37] <jonathan__> no
[18:37] <jonathan__> ok so im running 9.04
[18:38] <jonathan__> so i should be able to upgrade right?
[18:38] <ibm> i download de alternate iso 9.10 to upgrade my version 8.04 to 9.10 but the command kdesudo /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade no is reconnize, say bad command any help?
[18:38] <jonathan__> ?
[18:38] <stoyan4aluck> after that if you have 8.04  you must know that is impossible to upgrade it to 9.10 caus you must upgrade it to 8.10
[18:39] <jonathan__> but i have 9.04
[18:39] <jonathan__> allegedly
[18:39] <stoyan4aluck> you must have 8.10 to go to 9.10
[18:39] <jonathan__> ok ok
[18:39] <ibm> is not imposible, in the official page it is posible
[18:39] <Pici> stoyan4aluck: You should include the person that you're speaking to at the beginning of your message, that way ibm knows your talking to him and not jonathan__
[18:39] <Pici> jonathan__: Please follow the directions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu
[18:40] <bipolar> can anyone tell me where kpackagekit stores it configuration? Specificly whether it checks for updates or not.
[18:41] <jonathan__> this is annoying
[18:41] <jonathan__> i dont have the #
[18:41] <jonathan__> notifier
[18:41] <manshoon> ever since I moved to karmic, I have constant problems with flash.  In koqueror It does not work at all, all flash pages are blank or half loaded, and firefox works, but often the flash applet freezes and I have to relaod or restart firefox
[18:41] <peabody> hmm, so I did a fresh install of 9.10 and where 9.04 saw my wireless adapter, 9.10 no longer sees it
[18:41] <peabody> hmm, so I did a fresh install of 9.10 and where 9.04 saw my wireless adapter, 9.10 no longer sees it
[18:42] <jonathan__> right ima do a fresh install
[18:42] <jonathan__> i wanna reformt with ext4
[18:42] <Smurphy> peabody: Install the backported modules, and it will work. Had the same issue.
[18:43] <bipolar> jonathan__: to use ext4 you might as well reinstall. 'upgrading' an ext3 partition doesn't use all the features of ext4
[18:44] <jonathan__> ok thanks lads
[18:44] <bbeck> Before upgrading to Karmic, Kontact had an application that was setup like a wiki, you could add chapters, pages.  Does anyone know the name of the app so I could install it again?
[18:44] <jonathan__> im downloading the iso
[18:44] <jonathan__> chat later
[18:44] <jonathan__> thanks again
[18:44] <bbeck> I believe I needed to explicitly download it last time too.
[18:45] <whirleystar> BasKet ?
[18:45] <whirleystar> bbeck: is this what you're looking for (http://basket.kde.org/) ?
[18:45] <bipolar> bbeck: yeah. basket. I don't think it's available for kde4 though.... which sucks.
[18:46] <bbeck> I found it, it was Kjots.
[18:47] <bipolar> bbeck: oh... hehe. Guess I should look that one up.
[18:47] <bbeck> I don't know why Kjots is not installed by default, it really is awesome.
[18:49] <bbeck> Now, timetracker on the other hand... I have yet to figure out how to use that app.
[18:50] <quizool> Hi :)
[18:50] <Smurphy> iH :)
[18:50] <kubian> why is kopete/kget/krfb still 4.3.2?  did they forget to build or has problems?
[18:52] <bbeck> kubian: That's a good question, were there any improvements to kopete for 4.3.3?
 hi
[18:53] <kubian> bbeck: don't know but there kde released one.
[18:54] <widow> Has KDE 4.3.3 been back ported to Jaunty?
[18:54] <kubian> don't you think it shud be upped as well for consistency?
[18:54] <kubian> widow: use the kubuntu-ppa/backports
[18:55] <skunch> Someone with wit needed
[18:55] <skunch> please.
[18:55] <tsimpson> 4.3.3 is only available for karmic
[18:55] <widow> I just wanted to verify that it had been back ported before updating the source.list to use backports.
[18:55] <skunch> any takers?
[18:56] <kubian> haven't done yet but if jaunty has 4.3.2 then can't see any reason why 4.3.3 will work
[18:56] <widow> This is why I like using Gentoo...full control of what versions I have...but I'm helping a friend with his Ubuntu/Kubuntu...so I get to do things the Ubuntu way...
[18:56] <widow> :D
[18:56] <widow> So 4.3.2 has been backported - just not 4.3.3 yet...
[18:57] <kubian> 4.3.2 has been loong time ago
[18:58] <skunch> anyone good with disk mounting problems please
[18:58] <skunch> I'm a video artist who's in a lot of shit
[18:58] <widow> skunch: what's the problem?
[18:58] <skunch> ...because I decided to backup :@
[18:58] <skunch> lol
[18:58] <skunch> yesterday I was burning a ubuntu image off my external USB harddrive
[18:59] <skunch> from my brother's laptop
[18:59] <skunch> I finished, and unplugged it in a rush because I had a Grub 22 Error that I was worried about awaiting on my (this) computer
[18:59] <skunch> I didn't eject it from the windows XP task bar on his laptop
[19:00] <skunch> I plugged it in after I formatted vista and reinstall ubuntu
[19:00] <widow> Now it's saying that it can't mount because the volume is locked - or something like that?
[19:00] <skunch> and it doesn't show up as availible in neither OS'
[19:00] <skunch> yes
[19:00] <skunch> in ubuntu it worked once or twice
[19:00] <skunch> but doesn't work anymore
[19:00] <skunch> but knows the drive's name and if I turn off/un plug it
[19:00] <skunch> will not show it
[19:00] <skunch> but I can't mount it
[19:01] <skunch> and in windows if I want to look at it in the disk management, it shows up but doesn't let me assign a volume letter
[19:01] <skunch> I really, REALLY can't afford to format it
[19:01] <widow> So the drive is also in NTFS format?
[19:01] <skunch> there's 3 years worth of music and a years worth of video editing
[19:01] <skunch> yes
[19:02] <skunch> and on top of all of that I'm supposed to make for tuesday based on some files I had on there and I'm panicing so hard ahaha
[19:02] <janvi> try testdisk
[19:03] <bbeck> skunch: have you tried something like: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[19:03] <widow> skunch: Do you know how to mount in Command Line?
[19:03] <skunch> no
[19:03] <skunch> I could do it but I don't know exactly what I'm typing in
[19:04] <widow> You're going to have too - youyou will need to use the Force Mount command.
[19:04] <widow> That will manually reset the attributes for the volumes - setting them back to Clean Shutdown...
[19:04] <ratasong> hi,is it possibly to install ubuntu-restricted-extras rather than kubuntu-restricted-extras? i dont want to install all those oxygen icons btw
[19:04] <peabody> Smurphy: Where do I do that?
[19:04] <widow> After that the next time you try to mount normally it should work just fine.
[19:05] <widow> skunch: I'll see if I can't dig up a guide for you.
[19:05] <tsimpson> ratasong: you can install both
[19:05] <buckethead> ratasong: Why install the extras at all?
[19:05] <davidjheinrich> hi all...does anyone here know if any drum scanners are supported under linux?
[19:06] <skunch> thank you widow
[19:06] <skunch> it won't format my drive though right?
[19:06] <ratasong> buckethead: emm bcause i want to enable all codecs n plugins n stuff?
[19:06] <widow> No
[19:06] <widow> The only way to format a drive is if you issue a format drive command.
[19:11] <skunch> ok
[19:12] <skunch> ubuntu was suggesting the force mount
[19:12] <rodensky> Is FireCrotch in the house?
[19:12] <skunch> but I didn't understand how that worked
[19:12] <skunch> I tried typing in what it said but nothing worked out
[19:12] <widow> skunch: Here you go... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Troubleshooting
[19:13] <widow> You need to know what the device is too...
[19:13] <skunch> what do you mean
[19:15] <widow> If you scroll just above the Trouble Shooting Section I linked you too - you will see the "Other Useful Commands"
[19:15] <peabody> Smurphy: How do I install the backported modules???
[19:16] <widow> There are commands there to help you determine the what the device link is fo ryour USB Driv...
[19:16] <widow> You know like /dev/sdb1, etc...
[19:16] <avihay> widow: mount
[19:17] <widow> That works too...
[19:17] <skunch> ok
[19:17] <skunch> so found which one it is in the ls command
[19:17] <avihay> you can grep it if you like
[19:18] <rodensky> I have / on sda6 and within it I have /home, how do I change /home mount point to sda8 where I still have my old /home?
[19:18] <widow> At least to disply what is mounted and where it's mounted...
[19:18] <widow> But it's not going to display a drive that isn't mounted.
[19:18] <widow> ...at least not to my knowledge anyway.
[19:19] <Smurphy> peabody: Just search for the backport modules in synaptic or similar.
[19:19] <skunch> ok so widow I was able to find it in the list and it's Bus number and Device number
[19:19] <skunch> now I'm unsure, do I just do the sudo force mount now?
[19:19] <billet75> I am using zoneminder and the /dev/video* permission are just for root and I have to change them every time I reboot chmod 666 they are owned by root:video any ideas
[19:20] <JuJuBee> Howdy...  My var/log/messages file is HUGE 71K lines since this morning.... many like this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/311749/
[19:20] <widow> If you know what the device is - then yes Force Mount.
[19:22] <skunch> ok
[19:22] <skunch> I'm just unsure though
[19:22] <skunch> what I do I have to input
[19:22] <skunch> from that commandline
[19:22] <billet75> force mount? I thought of writing a ksh script and placing it in init.d to change the permissions as it comes up. The other issue my video card will not maintain my settings after a reboot as well. Even when I use sudo to set them
[19:23] <skunch> like where do I put my device in the command " mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ -o force "
[19:24] <skunch> because from the list usb command I have this as my device that I want to force mount
[19:24] <skunch> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0c0b:b159 Dura Micro, Inc. (Acomdata)
[19:27] <peabody> ahh nice, and there it is in jockey.. broadcom sta wireless driver
[19:27] <peabody> thanks Smurphy
[19:27] <Smurphy> peabody: np
[19:28] <widow> skunch: You can mount it to any location you want.
[19:28] <skunch> ugh
[19:28] <skunch> I'm confused lol
[19:28] <skunch> ok
[19:28] <widow> Just note that the folder you mount it too needs to already exist and don't vorget to sudo in front of the entire mount command.
[19:29] <skunch> well
[19:29] <skunch> where are things usually mounted to?
[19:29] <skunch> computer:/// ?
[19:29] <widow> Things are usually mounted to a folder in the media or mnt folders.
[19:29] <widow> Depends on the distro really...
[19:29] <skunch> ah ok
[19:31] <skunch> ok lets just parse this command code
[19:31] <skunch> I'm a Linux terminal rookie and I haven't been using Terminal for six months
[19:31] <widow> Okay...
[19:31] <skunch> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g
[19:31] <skunch> is what I need to have in there
[19:31] <skunch> then after that it's
[19:32] <skunch>  /dev/sda1
[19:32] <widow> Then after that it's the device then the mount point.
[19:32] <widow> But I really don't think the USB Drive is going to be sda1...
[19:32] <skunch> which means device /mountpoint?
[19:32] <skunch> ok
[19:32] <skunch> then what do I write in that place
[19:32] <widow> That is usally an internal Sata Drive
[19:32] <skunch> ok
[19:32] <widow> I don't know what the device is...
[19:32] <widow> That is what you need to find out.
[19:33] <widow> Is it plugged in right now?
[19:33] <skunch> I did Lsusb
[19:33] <skunch> and the device strand is
[19:33] <skunch> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0c0b:b159 Dura Micro, Inc. (Acomdata)
[19:33] <widow> Okay - so it's in...
[19:33] <widow> Do this command...
[19:33] <widow> sudo fdisk -l
[19:33] <widow> That is just listing the drives and their partitions - don't worry...
[19:34] <urthmover> bummer I can't get kubuntu to get past the graphical login....I'm tried numerous ways to install the proper nvidia drivers to no availe
[19:34] <skunch> ok
[19:34] <skunch> so I have one that the system is marked as
[19:34] <skunch> HPFS/NTFS
[19:34] <skunch> I'm assuming thats my drive
[19:35] <urthmover> does anyone have any recomendations on getting kubuntu 9.10_64 running on a Dell e6400 laptop with a nvidia NVS160 video chipset?
[19:35] <widow> urthmover: remove any apt-get/aptitude nvidia driver packages.
[19:35] <widow> Reboot the computer - and install the drivers straight from Nvidia...
[19:35] <urthmover> widow: then after I've removed them   do what?
[19:36] <widow> Use their run script and ensure the right driver is specified in the xorg.conf
[19:36] <widow> skunch: I think you are right.
[19:37] <skunch> so that means
[19:37] <urthmover> widow: ok I'm removing all nvidia right now
[19:37] <skunch> that i want to force
[19:37] <skunch> sda3
[19:37] <billet75> nvidia has drivers at there site, I download them they work great
[19:37] <skunch> so my force command should look like
[19:37] <widow> uragano: Those would be my suggestions...but I'm not really an Ubuntu user - just over helping a friend right now.
[19:37] <skunch> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 ?????? -o force
[19:37] <urthmover> widow: then you are saying run  sudo sh NVIDIA_185_blah_.run  right?
[19:38] <skunch> the question mark meaning the destination right?
[19:38] <widow> Yes
[19:38] <skunch> ok
[19:38] <urthmover> widow: ok
[19:38] <widow> skunch: correct
[19:39] <widow> skunch: Is this computer a dual boot?
[19:39] <urthmover> widow: how do I properly stop kdm? sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop   ?
[19:39] <skunch> what do you mean?
[19:39] <widow> That is one way.
[19:39] <skunch> do I have another operating system on it?
[19:39] <widow> Do you not want it to autostart?
[19:39] <urthmover> widow: that way does not work..I get an error
[19:40] <urthmover> widow: yes I want it to autostart.....I just need to stop kdm while I install the drivers from nvidia
[19:40] <widow> Again, do you not want KDM to start - or are you jsut trying to get to command shell right now?
[19:40] <urthmover> widow: I'm in the shell right now
[19:40] <skunch> widow: what do you mean a dual boot?
[19:40] <widow> I think you can kill the X Session by likd Crtl+Shft+Backspace...
[19:40] <widow> ...or something like that.
[19:40] <urthmover> widow: I just need to stop any kdm processes  for the nvidia driver installation to work
[19:41] <urthmover> widow: ok
[19:41] <widow> The other thing you can do is go into /etc/rc2.d and rename the SXXkdm to KXXkdm and reboot
[19:41] <widow> It will reboot without loading KDM.
[19:42] <urthmover> widow: ok
[19:42] <widow> skunch: Yes, do you have another operating system on the computer too..
[19:42] <uicraor_> во пля все на инглише...
[19:42] <skunch> yes Windows Vista
[19:42] <skunch> after I've done this widow, do you think it'll work for Vista as well?
[19:42] <widow> skunch: Just a second...
[19:42] <skunch> ok
[19:43] <uicraor_> спровпнровновеновено
[19:43] <uicraor_> Ыыы
[19:43] <uicraor_> ептеть...
[19:43] <FloodBotK1> uicraor_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <uicraor_> бот сука
[19:43] <yofel> !ru
[19:43] <uicraor_> o plya nikuya sebe... =)
[19:44] <widow> skunch: Private please...
[19:44] <uicraor_> a nah mne ubunta esli u menya kubunta??? =)
[19:44] <urthmover> widow: here is some info about what is going on kinda  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266607
[19:45] <uicraor_> suki
[19:45] <uicraor_> blya
[19:46] <uicraor_> pidory
[19:46] <uicraor_> blya
[19:47] <uicraor_> ! ru
[19:48] <uicraor_> блин че никого русского нет???
[19:51] <froglet> I am running kde in jaunty and I do not recall how to get the most recently or most often apps to show in the top of the menu in classic launcher
[19:51] <froglet> I think one has to go to kickoff mode to set it and I tried that
[19:55] <Tm_T> !away > thrz|away
[19:55] <genii-around> froglet: Rightclick on KButton..Application Launcher Menu Settings...View...check of box next to "Recently Used Applications"
[19:56] <froglet> genii-around, I think I tried that but will have another look.  perhaps my system is missing some packages
[19:56] <froglet> ty
[19:57] <froglet> genii-around: yes that is almost what I want
[19:57] <froglet> problem is the rest of the menu disappears but I think maybe I can find a workaround.  thanks
[19:59] <froglet> are there repositories for kde 4.3 in jaunty?
[20:00] <genii-around> froglet: Yes, 1 minute
[20:00] <froglet> ty
[20:01] <genii-around> froglet: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[20:01] <froglet> I will google for it if you do not have the info in a convenient place
[20:01] <froglet> ty
[20:05] <drostie> Hi. generic question about upgrading from 9.10: If I DL an alternate CD, will it still need to connect to the internet to download lots of packages? And is there an estimate for that?
[20:06] <drostie> (The wiki-ish page on help.ubuntu.com suggests something like 700 MB downloaded, but I wanted to make sure.)
[20:07] <froglet> drostie: I think the download takes a few minutes but yes it does need to get packages
[20:08] <drostie> er, upgrading *to* 9.10 *from* 9.04.
[20:08] <widow> How do I get the public key for deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main?
[20:08] <froglet> drostie: are you sure you WANT to upgrade, though?
[20:08] <froglet> it might break your system
[20:08] <froglet> I have upgraded two systems, one consistently broke
[20:08] <froglet> the other succeeded
[20:09] <froglet> the one that broke uses nvidia
[20:09] <froglet> and I think the breakage is related to that
[20:10] <genii-around> widow: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <PUT KEY HERE THAT APT-GET COMPLAINS OF>
[20:10] <froglet> drostie: if you do it, make sure you backup all important files  :)
[20:10] <froglet> you might need the backup
[20:10] <drostie> froglet: I know. The upgrade path to 9.04 was similarly treacherous. I'm trying to figure out whether I should just download a CD for whatever it's worth.
[20:11] <froglet> It's worth a shot if you have more than one computer
[20:11] <drostie> :/ wait, what sort of upgrade trashes your /home partition? o_O
[20:11] <froglet> drostie: are you using an encrypted /home ?
[20:11] <drostie> With LUKS, yes.
[20:12] <froglet> hmmm mine got messed up but I use ecryptfs
[20:13] <froglet> on my netbook the upgrade worked like a charm
[20:13] <froglet> one piece of advice though, it is better to upgrade than to do a clean install, even though it will take two hrs to get all the packages
[20:14] <froglet> the one I installed cleanly is the one that crashed
[20:14] <froglet> and do not use the graphical installer
[20:14] <froglet> use apt-get or aptitude
[20:14] <drostie> :-/ you just said it took you a couple minutes, now you're saying that it took you two hours. It will take me 20-40 hours if I try to download this. That's why I asked. I really just need to know about the file sizes involved.
[20:15] <froglet> yes if you use an install CD it will take a few minutes to download the packages
[20:15] <froglet> but it will be more risky
[20:15] <froglet> in my experience with karmic
[20:16] <drostie> It's also less risky. :-/ If my system is borked, I'll want a live CD to try to debork it.
[20:16] <froglet> yes that is true.  I was unable to debork mine and went back to jaunty
[20:17] <froglet> drostie: you have a slow connection?
[20:18] <drostie> The other *huge* advantage of a CD is that I can use modern software that, y'know, throttles bandwidth. So that I can still browse and pause downloads and stuff.
[20:18] <drostie> Both aptitude and update-notifier are apparently stone-age in that regard. :/
[20:19] <froglet> update-manager is the app that crashed my initial upgrade and left me unbootable
[20:19] <drostie> Yes. I have two connections. One is very fast but requires me to bike for two hours; the other is a cable connection, but is only a bit faster than a 56 kbps modem.
[20:19] <froglet> the error said something about sudo having crashed
[20:20] <froglet> and I was unable to rescue the system with the CD
[20:21] <drostie> Meh, I dunno. I don't immediately generalize from your experience to mine. If there were a bug that blocked install on most Kubuntu installs, it would have blocked release too.
[20:21] <drostie> I know about the risks and there's already a huge cost to me, so I'm evaluating back and forth.
[20:21] <froglet> I was able to install jaunty and then do an upgrade but I ended up with consoles only
[20:21] <froglet> k
[20:21] <drostie> Teletypes are *very* useful. ^_^
[20:23] <froglet> one guy in #ubuntu told me he has reported several major bugs and not to expect fixes anytime soon
[20:23] <froglet> btw I usually begin with an ubuntu install and if that succeeds, I add kubuntu
[20:24] <froglet> usually works better that way than a straight kubuntu install
[20:25] <PAgore> hey guyz, does someone knows why the drag and drop shortkut dont work in my kubuntu, 3hours ago i installed Kubuntu and im in a clean user environment, so i think i just have to enable something :)
[20:26] <PAgore> i mean,  if i want to make a link by and application then i hold "Alt" and drop this applications to the desktop like in windows :)
[20:28] <Bou> PAgore: just drop it no? i don't think "Alt" is necessary
[20:28] <PAgore> Bou: I mean i all times have to confirm it by an appearing table
[20:29] <PAgore> sec i give an 2nd example
[20:30] <PAgore> if i drag 1 file in dolphin from one direction to an other then i press Ctrl i hold it and drop it to an other direction
[20:30] <PAgore> then in MS Windows it was recognised as a copy command
[20:30] <PAgore> but this dont happen in kubuntu atm :)
[20:31] <PAgore> but i can see a smal "+" or the link icon when i press this hotkeys :)
[20:32] <BruceLeeds> hi, I try to install a otf-font, but I doesn't work. Do I have to do something else than to copy the *.otf to ~/.fonts/type1 ?
[20:33] <PAgore> do you use the new Kubuntu ? :)
[20:33] <BruceLeeds> PAgore: no I use still 8.4
[20:33] <BruceLeeds> hardy
[20:34] <PAgore> hmm i dont know if you can find this in Hardy, but check this out, just go to your "System Settings" application
[20:34] <PAgore> if this exists, there you can find a Font Installer :)
[20:35] <Bou> PAgore: sorry i thought you were talking of something else
[20:36] <BruceLeeds> PAgore: found it
[20:37] <PAgore> Bou: no i just answered Bruce :)
[20:37] <PAgore> Bou: I still cant solve it, im googelin atm :)
[20:41] <BruceLeeds> PAgore: well, I want the otf to appear in OO.o but it doesn't appear - I noticed in the net, I need to do something else - but what...?
[20:41] <urthmover> this kubuntu nvidia issue is very frusterating
[20:42] <PAgore> BruceLeeds: hm, i have a good idea what you can do :)
[20:43] <PAgore> i think the problem is your application "Font Installer" it is just old and therefore you cant install OO fonts :)
[20:43] <PAgore> in my Font Installer i can add this Fonts because im using the newest
[20:44] <BruceLeeds> PAgore: I acctually think the font is installed - only OO doesn't support it.
[20:44] <vitamin-carrot> OMG
[20:44] <vitamin-carrot> Im still wearing pants
[20:45] <PAgore> BruceLeeds: try this command "sudo fc-cache -fv"
[20:45] <PAgore> it refreshes your cache :)
[20:45] <vitamin-carrot> hi everyone
[20:45] <PAgore> hi :P
[20:46] <PAgore> BruceLeeds: btw restart OO then
[20:47] <BruceLeeds> PAgore: didn't help
[20:48] <PAgore> ouh :(, hmm,  duno cant help you then, have you tried yout fonts with Kate?
[20:48] <PAgore> to find out if the problem is with OO
[20:49] <BruceLeeds> PAgore: what do you mean? how could I try fonts out with kate?
[20:49] <PAgore> you know Kate the text applications :)
[20:49] <PAgore> open this and then write with your new Fonts
[20:50] <BruceLeeds> of course - but kate is an editor
[20:51] <PAgore> yes but then you can find out where the problem is, if its in kubuntu or OO :P
[20:51] <BruceLeeds> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Font-FAQ#Does_OpenOffice.org_2_support_OpenType_fonts_named_with_.22.OTF.22_.28having_CFF_outlines.3F.29
[20:51] <BruceLeeds> I think it's OO
[20:55] <frenchy> how do you disable Auto eth0
[20:56] <frenchy> how do you disable Auto eth0
[20:58] <BruceLeeds> I managed
[20:58] <BruceLeeds> http://www.stuermer.ch/blog/convert-otf-to-ttf-font-on-ubuntu.html
[21:09] <tkesler> Is anyone having problems w/ wireless after 9.10
[21:09] <joshua__> fortunately not
[21:10] <|moe|_> tkesler: only on wpa2/enterprise
[21:10] <tkesler> I have an atheros wireless card and it connects and then soon after disconnects
[21:10] <tkesler> it's on an open network
[21:11] <|moe|_> tkesler: it's a broadcom on my side and never open
[21:11] <tkesler> it says on dmesg 'no ipv6 routers available' and it then disconnects
[21:12] <genii> !ipv6
[21:12] <genii> Second link
[21:14] <tkesler> hmm...i can try that...
[21:14] <tkesler> it seems to keep trying to query the router and disconnects after that
[21:16] <tkesler> thanks for the help...l8r!
[21:17] <froglet> I upgraded to kde 3.3 in jaunty and now KDE gives me akonadi errors when starting then the screen goes black with just a cursor on it
[21:17] <froglet> ubuntu desktop still works though
[21:17] <froglet> Gnome
[21:18] <froglet> kde 4.3 I meant
[21:19] <froglet> I thought perhaps entering plasma.kderc at alt-f2 would fix it but alt+f2 does not do anything
[21:20] <elitrou> hello, can anyone help me to customize the jaunty login screen?
[21:20] <vitamin-carrot> brb need fuel for the mower
[21:21] <vitamin-carrot> lolz
[21:37] <avihay> what do I do to get multiple monitors working without clone?
[21:39] <avihay> do I just put a virtual line in xorg.conf or is the new xorg already takeing care of this?
[21:47] <MBSTO> joesu...
[21:52] <ubuntistas> I wanna add  icons in my panel any clue ? only widgets i can add
[21:58] <gudiel> holaaa
[21:59] <widow_> Only Widgets...
[22:01] <slow-motion> hi
[22:13] <ubuntistas> I wanna add  icons in my panel any clue ? only widgets i can add
[22:13] <ubuntistas> I wanna add  icons in my panel any clue ? only widgets i can add
[22:21] <urthmover> ugg what is going on with kubuntu and graphics issues in koala'
[22:23] <yofel> urthmover: none here, what's yours?
[22:24] <urthmover> nvidia .... I can't get past the graphical login on a fresh install of 9.10_amd64
[22:24] <urthmover> yofel: I've been monkeying with this all day
[22:25] <yofel> urthmover: what card do you have?
[22:25] <urthmover> yofel: I have tried removing everything nvidia....and installing nvidia from apt   antoher fresh install  trying nvidia drivers from the download straight from nvidia
[22:25] <yofel> (my Quadro NVS 140M and GeForce 7300 GT work fine)
[22:25] <urthmover> Quadro NVS160 on a dell e6400 laptop
[22:26] <urthmover> hmm  yofel 64bit?
[22:26] <yofel> yes
[22:26] <urthmover> yofel: once you installed from a live cd.....you were able to reboot and login from the graphical login and get to a working desktop?
[22:27] <billet75> how would I sent up the ability to send email from my kubuntu to my gmail account. I don't not want email sent to me
[22:27] <yofel> urthmover: uhh... can't say, one system was installed with alpha2 and one was upgraded from jaunty
[22:28] <yofel> urthmover: anything useful in Xorg.0.log?
[22:28] <urthmover> how do I check to see what graphics driver a fresh install is attempting to use?  How can I see a log of any errors ..specifically after attempting a login using the graphical login fails?
[22:29] <yofel> well, X will try to use NV by default if you don't tell it to use something else
[22:29] <urthmover> yofel: I'll take a look at Xorg.0.log  to see what errors  I can find
[22:29] <yofel> so you need an xorg.conf with 'Driver "nvidia"' to use the binary driver
[22:30] <yofel> nvidia-xconfig should create a working one
[22:30] <urthmover> ok I'll make sure I run that yofel
[22:30] <urthmover> thanks for your help
[22:35] <helmut_> hi
[22:36] <luca> hi everybody
[22:36] <korvin> привет
[22:40] <luca> hi, im looking for help with netbook remix
[22:41] <yofel> luca: well, just ask here, we'll help if we know how, or ask in #kubuntu-netbook
[22:49] <SeraphX> I'm sure this has been asked a hundred times, but is there any easy way for me to automount an external hard drive like it would be in GNOME?
[22:55] <dylan_> hi. i'm using kubuntu netbook remix and i've changed my containment to a "desktop" style but now i've lost the ability to change the containment settings. does anyone know how to get the configuration menu back? Right clicking everwhere seems to give nothing ...
[22:56] <da> #ubuntu
[22:57] <da> join#ubuntu
[22:58] <yofel> da: /join #ubuntu
[22:59] <da> okay thanks
[23:06] <dylan_> ?
[23:09] <yofel> dylan_: tried asking in #kubuntu-netbook?
[23:10] <dylan_> nope. thanks. first time using irc.
[23:18] <Smex> hi
[23:23] <lninjo> hey how can i get a list of channels again trying to find where programmers escpecially in c++ hangout:
[23:23] <lninjo> me fellow linux advocates
[23:23] <lninjo> i get in trouble all the time at work suggesting open source alternatives at work
[23:24] <lninjo> just want me to selll microshit:
[23:24] <lninjo> anybody know why microsofts virus scanner doesnt work on 7
[23:24] <lninjo> funny huh
[23:24] <lninjo> hey hey where yall at
[23:25] <ref_0> Hello. I have a problem with kubuntu 9.10 (upgraded from 9.04) and I want to report it as a bug in launchpad but I don't know how do that, I do not know which files and info attach.
[23:25] <ref_0> The problem is that when I copy files (up to 50MB and tested from konsole or dolphin), the system becomes slow and unusable until the task is complete.
[23:26] <ref_0> kswapd0 and pdflush process appear as "disk sleeping" in system monitor while file is copying.
[23:27] <reagleBRKLN> with kubuntu karmic, when i wake up from suspend, I'm not prompted for password, this option is set in etc and KDE admin powersave settings, any thoughts? also, is there a DCOP command that will do it? (then I could put it in a script)
[23:28] <reagleBRKLN> I have no kdesktop_lock which I see refs to
[23:31] <homoboy> hey
[23:35] <homoboy> i am having a problem with thoggen, a dvd ripper. it says failed to retriece dvd title details. When i go to instlall libdvdcss2, it says that there is no installation candidate and is not available but is referred to by another package.
[23:35] <homoboy> *retreive
[23:35] <LeeJunFan> !medibuntu | homoboy
[23:36] <homoboy> thnks
[23:36] <LeeJunFan> homoboy: np, you'll find libdvdcss there
[23:36] <neceve> hi guys
[23:38] <neceve> I'm beginning to be a little disappointed about 9.10 :(
[23:38] <neceve> hal do no more detect "ac adapter"
[23:39] <neceve> now, I can't see the external hard drive
[23:40] <neceve> (on that display which shows if I have a new device)
[23:41] <neceve> please, someone knows what is happening?
[23:42] <froglet> neceve, did you recently upgrade to karmic?
[23:42] <neceve> yes :(
[23:42] <froglet> :(
[23:42] <neceve> from 9.04
[23:42] <froglet> that might be the problem