[10:25] <Buyydee> evan_ & wander_w: try doing this via sudo nvidia-settings, simplified it in my case
[10:25] <evan__> ok
[10:25] <edis6n> no gamers here? :(
[10:25] <AliTarihi> I managed to set up the driver. It is working .
[10:25] <Wander_w> evan__: it should say Driver "nvidia"
[10:25] <tarzeau> i play www.sauerbraten.org, edis6n
[10:25] <Wander_w> evan__: don't change lines that say Driver "mouse" !
[10:26] <AliTarihi> But  hibernate suspend works. But once I logout, the Text mode is in mess!
[10:26] <rhetoric> ifireball, should i be able to connect via that 10.whatever ip?
[10:26] <Wander_w> evan__: or your mouse will stop working
[10:26]  * nomentero is away: No estoy:-(
[10:26] <edis6n> well, tarzeau do u know how to check your mouse polling rate or dpi ?
[10:26] <tarzeau> edis6n: nope sorry, maybe with xset
[10:26] <edis6n> tarzeau, im not sure i want to see, is it really running on 1800 dpi now..  ;)
[10:26] <evan__> Wander_w : Driver         "nvidia"
[10:27] <Wander_w> evan__: It might indeed be easier using nvidia-settings, as Buyydee suggested
[10:27] <ifireball> rhetoric: not yet, lets see how does the interfaces looks like right now, if you're not seeing eth1:1 in ifconfig then it didn't work yet
[10:27] <Wander_w> evan__: that's good
[10:27] <AliTarihi> ?
[10:27] <edis6n> tarzeau, sauerbraten.. is it something like warsow or nexuiz?
[10:27] <tarzeau> edis6n: just much better!
[10:27] <tarzeau> edis6n: http://krum.ethz.ch/sauerbraten/
[10:28] <Wander_w> evan__: if you stop X11, and as root do startx then what happens? Does it start X in nvidia mode?
[10:28] <evan__> Wander_w i only got an identifier and an drive in that section
[10:28] <rodolfo> people, whats the parameter to unzip a .tar.bz2 file? (sudo tar -??? file_name.tar.bz2)
[10:28] <Buyydee> that's my university tarzeau!
[10:28] <evan__> Wander_w ill try
[10:28] <edis6n> tarzeau, looks pretty good ofcourse
[10:28] <Wander_w> evan__: that is enough
[10:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, did you look at the last pastebin of my restart?
[10:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, it didn't work for sure
[10:29] <tarzeau> Buyydee: which?
[10:29] <frederick85> i don't think ubuntu is hardcore enough for me
[10:29] <Wander_w> rodolfo: tar jxpvf <thefile.tar.bz2>
[10:29] <AliTarihi> Anyone?
[10:29] <Buyydee> tarzeau: ethz.ch - federal institute of technology zurich
[10:29] <tarzeau> Buyydee: ah nice, where at there are you?
[10:29] <ifireball> rhetoric: yeah, like I said its looks ok, just some braindead-ISP BS, see if "sudo ifup eth1:1" works for you
[10:29] <Wander_w> frederick85: Buy a tomtom, go crosscompiling you own distribution for ARM from scratch, that might be hardcore enough for you :)
[10:30] <Buyydee> tarzeau: studying chemical engineering in 5th semestre at the hci on the hoenggerberg
[10:30] <rhetoric> ifireball, it must have something to do with the "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[10:30] <frederick85> Wander_w: I was thinking gentoo/freebsd
[10:30] <frederick85> I'v done that beofre
[10:30] <frederick85> it was good
[10:30] <rhetoric> ifireball, should that be eth1:0 or go *after* my 4 lines?
[10:30] <tarzeau> Buyydee: oh just wait 5 mintues, i'll show you something
[10:30] <ifireball> rhetoric: yeah, you're getting IP from the ISP via DHCP,its as it should be
[10:30] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, just type that on the console
[10:30] <Buyydee> tarzeau: i'll be here
[10:31] <rodolfo> Wander_w, thanks
[10:31] <frederick85> Wander_w: I just find ubuntu doesn't pass the time for me but compiling does
[10:31] <rhetoric> ifireball, it says it's already configured, but it's not in ifconfig
[10:31] <Wander_w> frederick85: What? a complete distro whit all the packages allready there? how softcore
[10:31] <edis6n> tarzeau, i download that game now :P i see already 4700 other people did the same
[10:31] <ifireball> rhetoric: paste "ifconfig" plz, also paste "ifconfig eth1:1"
[10:32] <frederick85> Wander_w: I think 50% of the packages don't work so I will have to fix them myself
[10:32] <Wander_w> frederick85: ok, have fun
[10:33] <rhetoric_> ifireball: http://pastebin.ca/834628
[10:34] <rhetoric> ifireball: what does my ISP have to do with it?
[10:35] <Wander_w> nothing, but we'd like to see your IP and steal your pr0n with it :P
[10:35] <ifireball> rhetoric_: your ISP gives you the config you're getting for eth1 in order to get online
[10:35] <newubuntu> hi all ... im trying to install amsn buti need tcltls .. who can tell me how to install it?
[10:35] <tarzeau> Buyydee: recognize your building here? http://gnu.ethz.ch/photos/panorama/
[10:35] <rhetoric> ifireball: but what does that have to do with my static assingment (which is local yea?)
[10:35] <ifireball> rhetoric_: no it doesn't; anyway, paste the interfaces file, we may have got something wrong there
[10:36] <Wander_w> newubuntu: apt-get install amsn
[10:36] <Buyydee> tarzeau: i do, are you in the applied math tower?
[10:36] <neopsych1> .
[10:36] <ifireball> rhetoric: "networking restart" is the equivalent of rebooting the whole network configuration so it reconfigures all the interfaces
[10:37] <newubuntu> Wander_w if i do apt-get install amsn ubuntu says me i need tcltls
[10:37] <rhetoric> ifireball, i got that much i just dont see what my ISP has to do with me assigning a local IP?
[10:37] <rhetoric> ifireball, and what is this <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:38] <ifireball> rhetoric: it doesn't, the messages you saw had to do with the dynamic IP not the static one we're setting up right now
[10:38] <rhetoric_> ifireball: http://pastebin.ca/834634
[10:38] <ifireball> rhetoric: <IP_ADDRESS> must be the ISPs DHCP server
[10:38] <rhetoric> ifireball: well does my trying to use a 10.* locally screw that up? maybe i should use 192.*?
[10:38] <Wander_w> newubuntu: I think you need the "universe" repositories enabled
[10:39] <tarzeau> Buyydee: physics department
[10:39] <ifireball> rhetoric: no it doesn't, anyway is there a blank line after line 09 in the file?
[10:40] <Buyydee> tarzeau: well, nice to know you :) i just got to get back to work now, i'm going to be idle here for some time
[10:40] <rhetoric_> ifireball: doh, yes
[10:40] <tarzeau> Buyydee: that's fine, nice to meet you
[10:40] <ThreeFingerPete> hello. can someone inform me as to a more featuresque irc client than xchat
[10:41] <ifireball> rhetoric: just checking since it doesn't appear so in the paste... lets try "sudo ifdown eth1:1" and then "sudo ifup eth1:1"
[10:41] <rhetoric_> ifireball: OMG im dumb there was an "auto eth1" like 20 lines down somehow
[10:41] <rhetoric_> i put it above the iface eth1 and restarting now
[10:42] <Wander_w> newubuntu: open adept ("add/remove programs") , click "edit software sources" and check the "Community maintained Open Source software (universe)" option. Check the other options ass well if you want.
[10:42] <Wander_w> ThreeFingerPete: I use Pidgin
[10:44] <ThreeFingerPete> Thanks Wander_w, I did too, but for some reason it no longer connects me to channels
[10:45] <ThreeFingerPete> however, it works fine for msn and yahoo..
[10:45] <Wander_w> ThreeFingerPete: Go to Buddies -> Join a chat ?
[10:45] <ThreeFingerPete> nods. it all seems to work but then i get an empty channel.
[10:45] <rhetoric_> ifireball: still same ifconfig :( new error at the end of restart "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address"
[10:45] <ThreeFingerPete> will try again.. excuse me if i vanish...
[10:46] <Wander_w> ThreeFingerPete: Strange... are your accounts set up correctly? (ctrl-a)
[10:46] <ifireball> rhetoric: lets try "sudo ifdown eth1:1" and then "sudo ifup eth1:1"
[10:46] <ThreeFingerPete> nods.
[10:47] <rhetoric_> ifireball: ok sec
[10:47] <rhetoric_> ifireball: both return the same error i just pasted :(
[10:47] <ThreeFingerPete> something was acting up with /j #
[10:47] <ThreeFingerPete> seems to be ok now! thanks muchly Wander
[10:48] <Wander_w> np
[10:48] <ravi_> can someone plzz help me installing IE in ubuntu...
[10:48] <francis> hi I have a postfix server server set up, It accepts mail for all the virtual domains but does not send mails from the hosted virtual domains . The logs say "Relay access denied" . Please point me in the right direction !!!
[10:49] <rhetoric_> ifireball: brb
[10:49] <ThreeFingerPete> What trouble are you having ravi?
[10:49] <ravi_> i have manged to download and have unpacked using tar command
[10:50] <ravi_> while installing IE 6
[10:50] <ravi_> says folders not found
[10:50] <rhetoric_> ifireball: back any ideas?
[10:50] <Wander_w> ravi_: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[10:51] <ravi_> wander_w : been there downloaded and unpacked.... during final stage of installation..getting err msg: folders not found
[10:52] <ThreeFingerPete> hmm. Ravi, that sounds more like an issue with wine than IE... perhaps someone with more experience with it than I.,.
[10:52] <rhetoric_> ifireball: could it have to do with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/123773
[10:53] <ifireball> rhetoric: yea, was on the phone
[10:53] <ravi_> ThreeFingetPete: oh..ok.. any ways cheers for your help
[10:53] <rhetoric_> ifireball: hmm nvm it works for them though, not working for me
[10:53] <evan^^> hey my xorg.conf gives nu errors and im on text mode now help:P
[10:54] <ifireball> rhetoric: it isn't in ifconfig yet?
[10:54] <abhi_> anyone know why i'm getting thrown into ##overflow when i'm trying to join ##php?
[10:54] <rhetoric_> ifireball no i got that same error
[10:54] <bentob0x> I'm looking for a list of laptops on which you can install Ubuntu
[10:54] <rhetoric_> ifireball: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[10:55] <Wander_w> bentob0x: Dell Latitude D820
[10:55] <Buyydee> bentobox: IBM/Lenovo T61p works out of the box
[10:55] <Wander_w> bentob0x: (because that is what I'm using)
[10:55] <ifireball> does "ifconfig eth1:1" still give you only 2-3 lines?
[10:55] <evan^^> Wander_W it gives errors now it cant initialise the nvidia kernel module
[10:55] <rhetoric_> ifireball, yea bingo
[10:55] <rhetoric_> ifireball: should it be eth1:0 ?
[10:56] <Wander_w> evan^^: are you using a driver downloaded from the nvidia website? or one from ubuntu?
[10:56] <Wander_w> evan^^: (don't install both on 1 system)
[10:56] <bentob0x> is there no list online?  I'd like to go shopping this pm but with the wide range of laptops they offer, a list would be welcome for me to check that Ubuntu works on it
[10:56] <evan^^> Wander_w from nvidia website the restricted module drive gave errors to and diddnt have hardware acceleration
[10:57] <Wander_w> evan^^: did you remove the ubuntu version?
[10:57] <ifireball> rhetoric: hmm... could be... try that
[10:57] <linuxfce> has anyone here tried using the avant window manager (docker program)?
[10:57] <ifireball> rhetoric: afaik it shouldn't matter, but who knows
[10:57] <Wander_w> bentob0x: make a list of laptops that you like, then go check online if anyone has ubuntu working on it
[10:58] <zimon> bentob0x, there are many lists .. like http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/
[10:58] <flick> hi i am downloading the game Scorched 3D
[10:58] <evan^^> Wander_w yes but i have have installed nvidia-glx-new yesterday when i had this same problem
[10:58] <rhetoric_> ifireball:
[10:58] <flick> but i do not know how to play the game, Scorched 3D
[10:58] <rhetoric_> ifireball: still the same deal :(
[10:58] <Wander_w> evan^^: and did you remove that one?
[10:58] <linuxfce> dell xps m1330 is a good linux laptop. i got media buttons, webcam, sound, mic, dual mic array (in lcd), bluetooth, wifi, and remote control working perfectly
[10:59] <linuxfce> and it was easy
[10:59] <evan^^> Wander_W yes i have removed nvidia-glx-new
[10:59] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, lets try a manual hack "sudo ifconfig eth1:0 up <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:59] <Wander_w> evan^^: and after that you installed the package from nvidia?
[10:59] <rhetoric_> ifireball: lol same error message
[11:00] <rhetoric_> ifireball: oooooh but now it seems to have worked
[11:00] <rhetoric_> ifireball: buggy as hell eh?
[11:01] <francis> hi I have a postfix server server set up, It accepts mail for all the virtual domains but does not send mails from the hosted virtual domains . The logs say "Relay access denied" . Someone Please Help !!!
[11:01] <linuxfce> use envy for nvidia, its all automated and easy
[11:01] <ifireball> rhetoric_: yeah, too much attention going in to simple wireless laptops now days, they get the more complex stuff wrong...
[11:01] <evan^^> Wander_w yes i just chekced it
[11:01] <francis> ooops a typo
[11:01] <rhetoric_> ifireball: 2 boxes same OS wired into a basic hub is pretty gd simple lol
[11:01] <francis> hi I have a postfix server server set up, It accepts mail for all the virtual domains but does not send mails from the hosted virtual domains .  But while I try and sent a mail from the hosted domain I get  "Relay access denied" . Someone Please Help !!!
[11:02] <rhetoric_> ifireball: did you see the launchpad bug i linked? this is definetely a reproduction
[11:02] <ifireball> rhetoric_: yeah, but static virtual IPs on onterfaces that already have DHCP IPs isn't.
[11:02] <evan^^> Wander_W how could i make it innitialize?
[11:02] <ifireball> rhetoric_: not really, they got some different results, but its a hint indeed
[11:02] <rhetoric_> ifireball: no now i got the error, and mine is working
[11:03] <rhetoric_> ifireball i wonder why it doesnt work unless i do it manually like that though
[11:03] <Wander_w> evan^^: Uhm... I'm kind of running out of ideas here
[11:03] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, ok, but now I have doubts whether this setup is rebootable...
[11:03] <Wander_w> evan^^: Is there anything in dmesg?
[11:03] <rhetoric_> ifireball: does it have anything to do with the "auto *" lines in the interfaces file?
[11:04] <evan^^> Wander_W do you mean a fresh install is the best idea?
[11:04] <evan^^> :P
[11:04] <rhetoric_> what does "auto eth1" do exactly
[11:05] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, the "auto" tells it to try setting up the interface when you start/stop networking rather then just when you issue manual ifup/down commands
[11:05] <wols_> rhetoric_: it runs "ifup eth1" when /etc/init.d/networking is started
[11:05] <ifireball> rhetoric_: essentially its supposed to make the interface start up on boot
[11:06] <rhetoric_> ifireball: also do i need a "broadcast' line
[11:06] <ifireball> rhetoric_: but we've already seen it doesn't quite work as advertised... (it used to, god damnit...)
[11:06] <rhetoric_> ifireball, lol :)
[11:06] <ifireball> rhetoric_: no you don't need it
[11:06] <ifireball> rhetoric_: anyway, lets put that aside for now, and go to the other machine
[11:06] <rhetoric_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/114457
[11:07] <rhetoric_> another similar bug
[11:07] <rhetoric_> ifireball: ok what on the other machine
[11:08] <ifireball> rhetoric_: same thing basically only "eth0:0" if i remember correctly and <IP_ADDRESS> for IP
[11:09] <ifireball> rhetoric_: and hope gusty handles it better...
[11:09] <rhetoric> ifireball hehe
[11:10] <lesshaste_> can you get ntfs-3g support in gutsy gibbon?
[11:11] <ifireball> rhetoric: anycase I gtg in about 20minuts so lets step on it
[11:11] <linuxfce> isnt ntfs-3g installed by default in gutsy?
[11:11] <rhetoric> ifireball, same error but it came up in ifconfig first try on restart
[11:11] <lesshaste_> linuxfce, I don't know.. how would I check?.
[11:11] <lesshaste_> also.. how do I tell the version number of an installed package?
[11:11] <linuxfce> in terminal type ntfs-3g
[11:12] <rhetoric> ifireball, i can ping the other box
[11:12] <linuxfce> see what it says
[11:12] <ifireball> rhetoric: cool, now see if you can ping the other machine's IP
[11:12] <lesshaste_> linuxfce, thanks.. that gave some info
[11:12] <linuxfce> i have ntfs-3g running automatically, my ntfs drive has read write at boot
[11:12] <lesshaste_> linuxfce, cool
[11:12] <rhetoric> ifireball, yes
[11:12] <ifireball> rhetoric_: great, lets setup some hostnames, edit /etc/hosts
[11:12] <linuxfce> do you need to know how to use it?
[11:13] <ifireball> rhetoric_: put the other machine's IP and name in each machine's file
[11:13] <rhetoric> ifireball, mounted!
[11:14] <linuxfce> ntfs-3g is good, does anyone know if theres a performance loss using ntfs-3g vs. a native ext3?
[11:14] <rhetoric> ifireball it was already there as <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[11:14] <rhetoric> ifireball could i have used that the whole time?
[11:15] <rhetoric> ifireball GOD i must be tired ignore that
[11:15] <rhetoric> ifireball mixing hostnames up of course and not reading
[11:15] <ifireball> rhetoric: no no no, don't touch that line, each machine sees itself as <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:15] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, ntfs suffers from fragmentation while the ext formats do not
[11:16] <ThreeFingerPete> that is, ext3 doesnt need a defrag every so often
[11:16] <linuxfce> hmm, thats odd, i wonder how ext manages to not get fragmented
[11:16] <linuxfce> how can i defrag my ntfs in linux?
[11:16] <ifireball> rhetoric: REPEAT for emphases: DO NOT TOUCH THE <IP_ADDRESS> LINE, its important
[11:16] <ThreeFingerPete> odd but nice, right?
[11:16] <scguy318> linuxfce: you don't
[11:16] <linuxfce> yes, nice
[11:16] <scguy318> linuxfce: you do it on Windows
[11:16] <linuxfce> i dont have windows, and dont want it
[11:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, i got it i see now i was just having a slow moment ;)
[11:17] <linuxfce> oh well thats just my movies, mp3s, etc. nothing that needs performance
[11:17] <scguy318> linuxfce: unfortunately that's the only choice, remember that stable NTFS on Linux took about 10 years ;)
[11:17] <ifireball> you should config nfs with names rather then IPs so its easier to move around if you ever have to
[11:17] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, look for a aftermarket defrag for windows. it will run, restart the computer and defrag it outside windows. it will work much better
[11:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, now just the fstab and hoping the feisty box is nice on reboot ya?
[11:18] <scguy318> linuxfce: as for ext, its the way it stores data I think
[11:18] <scguy318> !defrag
[11:18] <ifireball> well, if you got the mounts and /etc/hosts.allow working, then yeah
[11:18] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[11:18] <ake21285> ciao a tuti
[11:19] <scguy318> !it | ake21285
[11:19] <ubotu> ake21285: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:19] <rhetoric_> ifireball, do i need to setup hosts.allow when i used the gui to "share" the folder?
[11:19] <ake21285> ok thank you
[11:20] <ake21285> sorry..i'm a new user
[11:20] <linuxfce> i dont know why ubuntu doesnt run ntfs-3g mounting by default for all ntfs partitions
[11:20] <lesshaste_> how do you list the files in some package? Can apt-cache do that?
[11:20] <ifireball> rhetoric_: don't trust the GUI to keep you secure, as it is right now, ppl can probably mount your NFS over the internet
[11:20] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, if you right click mycomputer, then advanced, then performance...settings..then advanced in that..
[11:20] <rtz779> lesshaste_: dpkg -L packagename
[11:20] <linuxfce> i just umounted the ntfs partition, then remounted it with ntfs-3g. from then on it mounted it that way from boot. that was cool.
[11:21] <lesshaste_> rtz779, that doesn't work unless it's on your hard drive right? I was hoping apt-cache could do it
[11:21] <rhetoric_> ifireball: lol well it asked me what IP/host to allow in the gui
[11:21] <ifireball> rhetoric: you need to make sure /etc/exports enables access only from specific IPs, and that /etc/hosts.allow does that as well
[11:21] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, if you right click mycomputer, then advanced, then performance...settings..then advanced in that.. and change beside Virutal memory.. you can set your cache size to zero, which is that huge block you see near the end of the partition when you defrag.
[11:21] <rtz779> lesshaste_: no
[11:21] <rhetoric_> ifireball,what am i looking for in exports
[11:22] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:22] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:22] <ifireball> rhetoric: and you need to make sure the "ALL: PARANOID" line is in /etc/hosts.deny and not commented
[11:22] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, that is safe to do, but you will want to turn it back on later. I did that when I first installed ubuntu. once the install was done i went back and turned it on, and windows moved it.
[11:22] <lesshaste_> rtz779, yes... apt-cache show pkgname
[11:22] <lesshaste_> rtz779, :)
[11:22] <hamid11771> HI ALL
[11:23] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:23] <ThreeFingerPete> hi hamid11771
[11:23] <fedler> hamid11771
[11:23] <linuxfce> there is no prefetch on my ntfs partition because there was never an os on it
[11:23] <rtz779> akram: do not spam
[11:23] <ifireball> rhetoric_: you should see the other host's IP before the option brackets
[11:23] <ifireball> rhetoric_: sees macd's example in his post
[11:24] <linuxfce> if there were an easy way to convert it to ext i would, but i dont feel like hassling it
[11:24] <rtz779> lesshaste_: apt-cache show pkgname lists you all files in the package?
[11:24] <Retro`> hello
[11:24] <rhetoric_> ifireball, i have done absolutely nothing after install to secure these machines :( mostly because i dont care (no sensitive data, really)
[11:24] <linuxfce> ntfs-3g works so damn well. really impressive
[11:24] <lesshaste_> rtz779, I hope so...
[11:24] <rtz779> lesshaste_: i thought it would just give detailed info about the package but not its files
[11:24] <menllyos> i got a question, i use firestarter to setup the iptables, and now i just set it to use the outbound policy: restrictive by default. my event log is now going crazy though with stuff thats being blocked (1 block every second orso). Is this normal behaviour or should i jsut put it back on policy: permissive by default ?
[11:24] <scguy318> rhethoric_: but think of the potential criminal liability :P
[11:24] <rhetoric_> ifireball, both deny and allow are totally empty files?
[11:24] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, its pretty secure out of the box since no services are installed by default
[11:24] <Retro`> I have install GRIP to rip my music CD's into mp3's but i have a problem... GRIP does not recognize that a CD is mounted
[11:25] <ifireball> rhetoric_: hmm, umount, then start filling them up as per to macd's example
[11:25] <Retro`> a.k.a. no songs are displayed in GRIP once the CD is inserted in the CD-ROM drive
[11:25] <lesshaste_> rtz779, I see what you mean... is there a better command?
[11:25] <Vorbote> menllyos: if you haqve set up any kind of p2p servlet your putbound connections would be plenty
[11:25] <ifireball> rhetoric: then try to mount again (it'll probably no work on 1st attempt)
[11:26] <menllyos> yea but i already assigned those ports as ¨safe¨
[11:26] <Retro`> help
[11:26] <rtz779> lesshaste_: i think there is no command to list the files of an uninstalled package
[11:26] <rhetoric_> ifireball, he just has allow, and how would someone access it with the ip restriction in the export file?
[11:26] <bentob0x> thx zimon and Wander_afk
[11:26] <lesshaste_> rtz779, damn
[11:26]  * Vorbote is learning a new keyboard layout so bear with him ;-)
[11:26] <rtz779> lesshaste_: why do you need this?
[11:26] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:26] <rtz779> akram: please do not spam
[11:26] <lesshaste_> rtz779, to try to work out exactly what will be installed
[11:26] <rhetoric_> ifireball, the hosts.deny file doesnt even exist i dont have an example to work from
[11:27] <ThreeFingerPete> i'm out. nice to meet you all.
[11:27] <Retro`> i have set the 'Cdrom device' in GRIP config to be '/dev/cdrom' but that doesn't seem to work
[11:27] <ifireball> rhetoric_: they can't access the share but they can still fuck with the other NFS bits since they answer requests, the hosts.allow/deny files prevents them from talking to "strangers"
[11:27] <Retro`> please help
[11:27] <Retro`> how can i determine my Cdrom device ?
[11:27] <ompaul> !language | ifireball
[11:27] <ubotu> ifireball: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[11:28] <Retro`> i have, however, two cdrom devices...
[11:28] <rhetoric_> ifireball: what do i need in deny and could this affect other services (like downloading my democracy now torrents ;p)
[11:28] <ifireball> rhetoric: just put "ALL: PARANOID<newline>" in it
[11:28] <Retro`> how can i lookup in which Cdrom device is the CD with the music in?
[11:28] <Retro`> /dev/cdrom
[11:29] <Retro`> /dev/cdrom0 perhaps   ??
[11:29] <ifireball> rhetoric_: it'll only effect services that support the allow/deny files, I don't think *torrent does
[11:29] <Retro`> hello!
[11:29] <Retro`> help already
[11:29] <rhetoric_> ifireball: any other services i should know about that it will affect?
[11:29] <Vorbote> !help | ubotu
[11:29] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:30] <hamid11771> I have a data base and its reporting in MS-ACCESS 2007 , can I use it in openoffice ?
[11:30] <Retro`> /dev/hdc perhaps   ??
[11:30] <Retro`> HEY!!!!
[11:30] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:30] <Vorbote> !ask | Retro
[11:30] <ubotu> Retro: Don't ask to ask a question.  Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[11:31] <rhetoric_> ifireball: gotcha
[11:31] <Extravert> someones angry
[11:31] <rhetoric_> ifireball: but not basic TCP or UDP traffic
[11:31] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:31] <Vorbote> ompaul: the guy just left the room, after cursing us all
[11:31] <Extravert> he banned him
[11:31] <ompaul> Vorbote, I know and on that IP he won't be back
[11:31] <ompaul> for a while
[11:32] <Vorbote> :-)
[11:32] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, its not a firewall, its just a way of telling apps to accept connections from certain addresses or not
[11:32] <rhetoric_> ifireball: k im pretty sure i understand
[11:32] <hamid11771>  I have a data base and its reporting in MS-ACCESS 2007 , can I use it in openoffice ?
[11:32] <rhetoric_> ifireball: and the fstab is to mount at startup yes?
[11:33] <ifireball> rhetoric_: yes
[11:33] <fwar> join #ubuntu-sa/
[11:33] <anton_>  how to delete a folder as root?
[11:33] <rhetoric_> ifireball, one last thing i know you have to go: what are the settings rw,no_root_squash,async,subtree_check
[11:33] <linuxfce> why is it that ubuntu makes me deal with restricted drivers. why cant this noob distro treat me like a noob and not be so gpl righteous
[11:34] <ifireball> rhetoric_: though I don't like that approach when it comes to nfs, if can behave badly if the machine ever becomes unavailable
[11:34] <linuxfce> what approach?
[11:34] <ace_> heya
[11:34] <ace_> been awhile since i used ubuntu
[11:34] <ompaul> anton_, you are going to break your machine I will pm it to you
[11:34] <rhetoric_> ifireball: this machine will be unavailable often, should i just make a script to mount it when i want to?:
[11:34] <ace_> been gentoo'in it up
[11:34] <ifireball> rhetoric_: just put (rw) to make it read/writable you probaly don't need the rest
[11:34] <rhetoric_> ifireball: because it's a laptop and all
[11:34] <ace_> prolly gonna install that agian next
[11:35] <linuxfce> gentoo.. i dont like the whole from source procedure for every dang thing
[11:35] <anton_> Never mind, I found it out.
[11:35] <linuxfce> arch is more fun
[11:35] <anton_> Only deleted a song in frets of fire
[11:35] <myke54142> linuxfce, yup overkill
[11:35] <ace_> nah sources is great
[11:35] <anton_> thanks ompaul
[11:35] <ifireball> rhetoric_:just put "user" in the options column in fstab
[11:36] <linuxfce> it is great, but i like having a choice
[11:36] <ifireball> rhetoric_: then you can simply mount it manually with "mount /your/mount/point" as a normal user
[11:36] <myke54142> i usually use freebsd and never got why gentoo was such a big deal, with freebsd you usually do binary but you can easily rebuild both the core system and all packages from source
[11:37] <linuxfce> mount /dev/device /yourmountpoint
[11:37] <myke54142> i guess most linux distros weren't set up that way
[11:37] <ifireball> rhetoric_: in anycase don't include the "no_root_squash" bit, its terribly insecure and you probably don't need it
[11:37] <Jordan_U> myke54142, Gentoo is based off of BSD ports
[11:37] <linuxfce> yeah thats where im at, source is fine with me, but dont force me to waste my time installing everything from source
[11:37] <myke54142> exactly
[11:38] <myke54142> i have a kiosk system on top of a gentoo with a broken gcc
[11:38] <ompaul> myke54142, most of them go for packages you can verify - and are using things like apt or rpm to manage and install the programs
[11:38] <myke54142> anyone who loves gentoo should be forced to use it
[11:38] <linuxfce> the whole "dont you want to know what you're getting" thing doesnt apply either, unless you can read all the code youre installing
[11:38] <linuxfce> gosh, imagine dep hell in gentoo. every damn dep
[11:39] <ompaul> myke54142, a tad offtopic for here :)
[11:39] <Vorbote> myke54142: this is offtopic, but the difference is the port architecture, I love FBSD but if I need linux I rather use Debian or a derivative like Ubuntu (that rocks on my laptop, btw) ;-)
[11:39] <myke54142> i built my own linux system from LFS when i needed a very custom system, and that was fun, but i wouldn't do it for your average system either
[11:39] <ompaul> myke54142, we do have a #ubuntu-offtopic for stuff such as this ;-)
[11:39] <rhetoric> ifireball, i think i can get it from here thank you SO much
[11:39] <linuxfce> nobody chats in those subchannels
[11:40] <scguy318> and when they do, its about cake or something random
[11:40] <ompaul> linuxfce, it is very very busy 85.314259% of the time
[11:40] <linuxfce> thats kinda the point
[11:40] <ifireball> rhetoric_: one more: you have a server-grade kind of setup now, it can give you awsome performance, you you sould really UNDERSTAND what you did, I really recommend reading the manpages for everything
[11:40] <rhetoric> ifireball, wait will everything in fstab be loaded at boot or what?
[11:41] <rhetoric> ifireball i dont want them to mount at boot because it wont always be connected, rather i'd like to mount via a script
[11:42] <marsmissions> Does anybody know how to get video to play with composite on using the latest FGLRX driver from the amd website?
[11:42] <ifireball> rhetoric: only lines in fstab that contain the "auto" option are mounted by default (I thing the "defaults" keyword includes it), if you put "user" instead it won't
[11:42] <rhetoric> ifireball ok now i get it, thanks :)
[11:42] <Jordan_U> marsmissions,
[11:43] <Jordan_U> marsmissions, Don't use xv output
[11:43] <ifireball> rhetoric_: you don't need a script, /etc/fstab was designed to be a shortcut for mounting
[11:43] <marsmissions> Jordan_U: what would I put in xorg.conf to not do that?
[11:44] <Jordan_U> marsmissions, Nothing, it's an option of the player, to change totem-gstreamer run "gstreamer-properties"
[11:44] <linuxfce> whos got the best eye candy
[11:45] <tuxick> whoa
[11:45] <marsmissions> thanks
[11:45] <myke54142> i've got the least eye candy
[11:45] <tuxick> any chance getting flash working on 64bit kubuntu?
[11:46] <tuxick> 'adept' fails totally, downloaded the installer and that says there's no 64 bit support
[11:46] <ompaul> tuxick, do yourself a favour and if you want to put it on a system make it 32bit you don't need the pain
[11:46] <Jordan_U> tuxick, Yes, you should be able to just visit a page that needs it in Firefox and let it set it up
[11:46] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[11:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:46] <tuxick> ompaul: *still*?
[11:46] <tuxick> i've avoided 64 bit for over a year :)
[11:47] <ompaul> tuxick, I will not stop until all the codecs are all native and they are not
[11:47] <tuxick> in fact i have a 64bit gentoo box here with flash working
[11:47] <ace_> lol im happy
[11:47] <ompaul> tuxick, so enjoy yourself
[11:47] <tuxick> thanks :)
[11:47] <ace_> got my atheros working AR5007
[11:47] <Proteus> So I've  run into my first serious x/k/o/ubuntu problem that I haven't been able to fix myself. I've been trying to rebuild a collection of important files off a bunch of drives from a workstation that died and I had been successfully using a generic hard drive enclosure that would automagically mount all the volumes I needed. Problem is, now I'm not getting _anything_ when I plug it in. iv or gnome-volume-manager might flare up for a secon
[11:47] <Proteus> d, but then nothing happens. The magic smoke got out of my computer and I desperately need help!
[11:48] <ace_> plus it has the aircrack injection patch ;)
[11:48]  * nomentero is back (gone 01:22:48)
[11:48] <tuxick> Jordan_U: such sites only provide a link to the download site
[11:49] <tuxick> which provides an installer telling me i have 64 bit
[11:49] <Myrtti> !away | nomentero
[11:49] <ubotu> nomentero: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[11:49] <rhetoric> ifireball, in hosts.allow is it rpc.mountd or mountd or does that matter?
[11:50] <Proteus> anyone with even just pointers to where I could find help would be incredibly helpful.
[11:50] <rhetoric> ifireball, also i just meant a script for the one line to mount it because im that lazy :)
[11:50] <Vorbote> Proteus: maybe yor partitions are toast. Try with gpart and ddrescue.
[11:50] <No`> hi all
[11:50] <Proteus> but how do I do that on a partition I can't see?
[11:50] <linuxfce> oh sheize im getting sleepy
[11:51] <scguy318> Proteus: fdisk -l
[11:51] <Proteus> besides, xfs only gets bitchy if a write is in progress when it gets unmounted uncleanly and since no files were being transferred..... I don't think anything could have happened
[11:51] <scguy318> Proteus: *sudo fdisk -l
[11:52] <rhetoric> ifireball, or could i just do ALL: otherbox
[11:52] <Proteus> scguy318, I'm only seeing local drives here
[11:52] <Jordan_U_> tuxick, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#head-8786ac65f14f8d5685d016c5d5b6e927cee11f9d
[11:52] <scguy318> Proteus: hmm, anything of interest in dmesg | tail?
[11:52] <bliffle> is there an alternative to Flash?  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:56] <linuxfce> window managers are very revelant to ubuntu
[11:56] <anton_> ompaul: how to copy/paste stuff through terminal?
[11:56] <ikonia> linuxfce: your ranting about fat/bloat is not
[11:56] <ikonia> anton_: highlight then middle mouse button into a new window
[11:57] <anton_> ikonia: No, must be root...
[11:57] <ikonia> anton_: no you don't
[11:57] <anton_> yeah, I do.
[11:57] <ikonia> anton_: if you can read it, you can cut and paste as a normal user
[11:57] <ikonia> anton_: you don't need to be root to cut and paste
[11:58] <anton_> "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[11:58] <cousin_luigi> hi
[11:58] <_slacker_> anton_, don't paste the \r :)
[11:58] <linuxfce> anton just use the root account
[11:58] <ikonia> anton_: paste in a place your user has permissions to, or use sudo
[11:58] <anton_> _slacker_: \r?
[11:58] <Vorbote> linuxfce: to be earnst, I'd be using a stepbuntu if there was one. I love Open/GNUstep. But GNOME does its thing quite well. Having used real NeXTstep boxes, I know windowmaker ain't the real thing.
[11:58] <linuxfce> using the root account makes the permission crap go away forever
[11:58] <ikonia> linuxfce: we don't recommend using the root user, sudo is the ubuntu solution.
[11:58] <anton_> ikonia: Hence my question: How to copy/paste through terminal?
[11:58] <cousin_luigi> how do I force a static DNS while using DHCP for IP?
[11:59] <ikonia> anton_: your question is "how do I write to a filesystem that is owned by root"
[11:59] <ompaul> anton_, you should not be pasting where you don't have write permissions
[11:59] <anton_> In my frets on fire map...
[11:59] <Myrtti> !supportroot > linuxfce
[11:59] <Proteus> scguy318, on second thought, I'm not actually seeing anything relevant to usb issues. I was looking at local crap and got mixed up.
[11:59] <ikonia> anton_: in which case you open the file you wish to paste to with sudo, but to be honest if you don't understand that, the chances are you shouldn't be editing that file as it's owned by the super user for a reason.
[11:59] <Vorbote> linuxfce: but the beauty of sudo is that it allows fine-grained admining. Been using it for 15 years.
[11:59] <Proteus> scguy318, so what next?
[11:59] <B-rabbit> anton_, "Ctrl + c" to copy and "Shift + Ctrl + v" to paste in terminal
[11:59] <linuxfce> hmm, i havent messed with that wm
[12:00] <linuxfce> so you've been typing your password, over, and over, and over, for 15 years
[12:00] <anton_> b-rabbit I meant how to move files from folders...
[12:00] <scguy318> Proteus: I would probably check your hardware or something
[12:00] <ikonia> linuxfce: you don't have to type your password if you setup sudo
[12:00] <Myrtti> linuxfce: you have to type in the root password too
[12:00] <Proteus> :-(
[12:00] <Myrtti> even worse
[12:00] <Vorbote> linuxfce: nope, I've been GOD for 15 years ;L.)
[12:00] <Myrtti> then you need to remember two passwords
[12:00] <anton_> ikonia: It's my computer....how to get in sudo mode, then?
[12:00] <scguy318> Proteus: getting late so I can't really say much more, might be totally off
[12:00] <bliffle> I'll readup on GNASH and try it, later
[12:00] <ikonia> anton_: type "sudo" before the command.
[12:00] <ikonia> anton_: be very careful though
[12:01] <B-rabbit> anton_, use "sudo mv <file> <destination>"
[12:01] <scguy318> Proteus: oh and the r in your name is truncated
[12:01] <anton_> gaaaaaah, ikonia: I know, but how to move files between folders then? aha!
[12:01] <anton_> thanks
[12:01] <ikonia> B-rabbit: he's not asking to move a file.
[12:01] <anton_> yeah I am B-rabbit
[12:01] <Vorbote> linuxfce: I do admit that sudo is a bother in a single user system.
[12:01] <Proteus> scguy318, what?
[12:01] <ikonia> anton_: what ?? you asked how to edit a file ?
[12:01] <anton_> ikonia*
[12:01] <anton_> no ikonia :)
[12:01] <scguy318> Proteus: you're missing an r in your name
[12:01] <anton_> I asked how to move
[12:01] <ompaul> anton_, you did ask
[12:01] <Proteus> scguy318, where?
[12:01] <linuxfce> and i do admit that not using root is clearly a better choice regarding security
[12:02] <ompaul> anton_, unless you have moved on - you were asking how to edit
[12:02] <scguy318> Proteus: Proteus is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* Christophe
[12:02] <linuxfce> but i got nothing to hide, and im on linux, its not like im going to get a virus browsing the web
[12:02] <scguy318> Proteus: the real name field in your client
[12:02] <scguy318> Proteus: but I digress
[12:02] <linuxfce> if i were serious about security i would never use irc without a proxy
[12:02] <Proteus> scguy318, what does all this mean? should I fix something?
[12:03] <scguy318> Proteus: you're missing an r in your name :) you can fix the little typo if you want
[12:03] <Myrtti> !worksforme | linuxfce
[12:03] <ubotu> linuxfce: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[12:03] <scguy318> Proteus: but yeah w/e :P
[12:03] <JimmyDee> all I really want is a brightness app for ati, is that too much to ask?
[12:03] <Vorbote> linuxfce: well, that's debatable, unless you only use it on the console.
[12:03] <ikonia> scguy318: we saw your comment the first time
[12:03] <ikonia> !offtopic | Vorbote
[12:03] <ubotu> Vorbote: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <B-rabbit> linuxfce, !offtopic
[12:03] <JimmyDee> Vorbote: youre feeding a troll
[12:03] <Proteus> scguy318, ooooh, you mean Christophe as opposed to Christopher?
[12:03] <ompaul> linuxfce, you have been told a couple of times you are offtopic the ops here are invisible but can jump out of the woodwork please stick to support questions and answers and off opinions
[12:03] <ikonia> guys, can we drop it please
[12:03] <Vorbote> JimmyDee: probably
[12:03]  * ace_ throws troll crumbs into the crowd
[12:03] <scguy318> Proteus: yes
[12:03] <Proteus> not a mistake
[12:03] <[Chief]> hey, i have problems with my networkcard. It's a RTL8211BL (nforce630a). During the installation of Ubuntu 7.10 Secer AMD64 she worked fine with the forcedeth driver, but after I boot the installed system the card doesn't work. The Kernel is 2.6.22-14-server (The install system of the CD runs the kernel 2.6.22-14-generic)
[12:04] <scguy318> Proteus: ah k
[12:04] <ikonia> anton_: why are you using the "/me" command after you've just seen the offtopic request.
[12:04] <scguy318> ikonia: I was answering his question, so not really repeating
[12:04] <anton_> ikonia: =
[12:04] <anton_> ?*
[12:04] <Vorbote> ikonia: in what sense? sudo is not offtopic, it is one of the main attacks on ubuntu adoption by old-timer linux linux/unix users.
[12:05] <Jordan_U> [Chief], Any reason you are using the server kernel?
[12:05] <ikonia> [Chief]: is the forcedeth driver being used on your server install.
[12:05] <ompaul> Vorbote, it is a support not chat channel
[12:05] <linuxfce> haha theres a worksforme, thats great. i'll respect that because i respect the developers who gave me this distro for nothing, and if thats how they wanted it so be it
[12:05] <Proteus> scguy318, do you think I should repost my question or ask someone/somewhere else?
[12:05] <scguy318> Proteus: go for it
[12:05] <ikonia> Vorbote: discussing the pros and cons of sudo and irc from a command line is nothing to do with it.
[12:05] <Myrtti> Vorbote: geezers can use other methods for using root
[12:05] <[Chief]> It automatically installed the server kernel
[12:05] <wols_> chii: fyi,RTL8211BL is a PHY and totally irrelevant for the OS. forcedeth is the one you need. is it loaded?
[12:05] <Vorbote> ompaul: I know, but warmth is a matter of ubuntu.
[12:05] <scguy318> Proteus: you'll probably find better luck that way :)
[12:05] <[Chief]> The boot process loads the forcedeth driver
[12:06] <Proteus> So, reposting and begging -  I've  run into my first serious x/k/o/ubuntu problem that I haven't been able to fix myself. I've been trying to rebuild a collection of important files off a bunch of drives from a workstation that died and I had been successfully using a generic hard drive enclosure that would automagically mount all the volumes I needed. Problem is, now I'm not getting _anything_ when I plug it in. iv or gnome-volume-manager
[12:06] <Proteus> might flare up for a second, but then nothing happens. The magic smoke got out of my computer and I desperately need help!
[12:06] <ompaul> Vorbote, discussion is OT we have OT for that
[12:06] <wols_> [Chief]: /sbin/ifconfig -a   what interfaces show up?
[12:06] <[Chief]> It throws a warning message; Somethin like MAC ist not valid, taking a random mac
[12:06] <Vorbote> Myrtti: I'm not a geezer yet, just an old fart.
[12:06] <ikonia> Proteus: what does the syslog say
[12:06] <Vorbote> ompaul, OOK
[12:06] <wols_> Proteus: dmesg spitting anything out?
[12:06] <ikonia> [Chief]: can you get the exact message please
[12:06] <Myrtti> Vorbote: and I'm a tiresome old hag who loves sudo ;-)
[12:07] <[Chief]> "/sbin/ifconfig -a " shows up a eth11 device (??) and the lo
[12:07] <ikonia> [Chief]: are you sure it's eth11 ?
[12:07]  * Vorbote hugs MYR
[12:07]  * Vorbote hugs Myrtti
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.347384] forcedeth: using HIGHDMA
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.347435] 0000:00:0a.0: Invalid Mac address detected: a7:19:94:7d:1d:00
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.347473] Please complain to your hardware vendor. Switching to a random MAC.
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.873882] eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01458:e000 bound to 0000:00:0a.0
[12:07] <rockzman> [Chief], ifconfig lo
[12:07] <Myrtti> !paste | [Chief]
[12:07] <ubotu> [Chief]: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <ikonia> rockzman: why would he ifconfig the loop back card ?
[12:08] <anton_> How to remove a folder from the terminal?
[12:08] <ompaul> [Chief], do not patse in this channel, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[12:08] <rockzman> ikonia, hes the one who knows the answer
[12:08] <rockzman> lol
[12:08] <aniac> hi!
[12:08] <ikonia> anton_: go to http://www.tldp.org and read the bash basics
[12:08] <Vorbote> [Chief]: I've seen that in dapper, it is a kernel thing
[12:08] <ikonia> anton_: it will teach you the basic commands needed in a shell
[12:08] <[Chief]> I jsut have setup teh eth11 device, and it works :-D
[12:08]  * etfb is amused that the complaints about the pasting of [Chief]'s logs took up nearly twice as much space as the pasting itself.
[12:08] <Proteus> ikonia, wols_ , nothing even shows up with I plug in the external drive
[12:08] <aniac> guys I need some help concerning charsets...
[12:08] <B-rabbit> anton_, https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/basic-commands/C/
[12:09] <[Chief]> why is the network device called eth11?
[12:09] <ikonia> etfb: please stop with the /me commands
[12:09] <tuxick> ok this isn't going to work
[12:09] <ikonia> Proteus: is udevd running
[12:09] <wols_> chii: cause udev renamed it from eth0
[12:09] <Proteus> ikonia, wols_ , in dmesg, anyway
[12:09] <Vorbote> aniac: spill the goodswe ain't psychics}
[12:09] <Proteus> ikonia, yes
[12:09] <wols_> Proteus: are you sure the drive/enclosure is working?
[12:09]  * etfb thinks this channel is being rather overrun with (a) twits posting offtopic rubbish, and (b) bigger twits complaining about (a).  Byeee!
[12:09]  * Vorbote still learning his new keyboard
[12:10] <RandomShadowMan> hey im having some problems with my games on kubuntu
[12:10] <Proteus> wols_, yeah, it worked one day then it just sort of stopped. the enclosure is brand new
[12:10] <ikonia> Proteus: do you have another usb device (anything) you can plug in to see if udevd actually picks up an event
[12:10] <aniac> Vorbote i'm not sure i understood what you mean but I'll try starting... :)
[12:10] <ikonia> Vorbote: can we PLEASE stop with the pointless me commands.
[12:10] <anton_> thanks!
[12:10] <ikonia> Vorbote: you can see this channel is very busy
[12:10] <RandomShadowMan> FATAL: ssgInit called without a valid OpenGL context.
[12:10] <Proteus> ikonia, sure, should I just tail dmesg?
[12:10] <RandomShadowMan> can anyone help me get rid of that error?
[12:10] <aniac> well when I use amarok or exaile I can't see right song files which have their names in greek...
[12:10] <ikonia> Proteus: you can't tail dmesg, tail the syslog and plug in a device.
[12:11] <Vorbote> ikonia: yup, just tying to help with a Shacka the Sulu spirit.
[12:11] <wols_> Proteus: imho the hdd is gone to its maker
[12:11] <aniac> so maybe it's a matter of general environment config...
[12:11] <B-rabbit> RandomShadowMan, you have to be more specific?
[12:11] <wols_> Proteus: ex-hdd
[12:11] <aniac> not players'
[12:11] <ikonia> Vorbote: your failing and causing clutter in a busy channel, please stop
[12:11] <Vorbote> OK
[12:11] <RandomShadowMan> ok I have an nvidia geforce 8500GT and i want to be able to play these games like i was before
[12:12] <B-rabbit> RandomShadowMan, r u using wine?
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> no...
[12:12] <Proteus> well, how do I tail the syslog?
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> i mean games like supertux and supertuxkart
[12:12] <wols_> RandomShadowMan: glxinfo shows you have direct rendering?
[12:12] <scguy318> Proteus: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:12] <Proteus> right, of course. hang on
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> i ran it through the terminal to see why it wasnt starting up
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> FATAL: ssgInit called without a valid OpenGL context.
[12:13] <Peeco> How can I get linux on a machine with no option to boot from usb or optical drive??
[12:13] <RandomShadowMan> comes out with that
[12:13] <wols_> Peeco: how can it boot?
[12:13] <wols_> Peeco: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[12:13] <scguy318> Peeco: any pre-existing OS on it?
[12:13] <aniac> any idea about charsets?
[12:13] <wols_> RandomShadowMan:  dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[12:13] <Peeco> Im running xp now
[12:13] <Proteus> scguy318, wols_, so syslog shows all the usb events I'd expect
[12:13] <wols_> aniac: not until you ask a sensible question we can answer
[12:13] <scguy318> Peeco: UNetBoot might do it
[12:13] <Vorbote> Peeco: you can't boot from USB if the BIOS doesn't allow it.}
[12:14] <ikonia> Proteus: thats correct it will show you the events when you plug/unplug a device
[12:14] <aniac> wols O described the problem above though...
[12:14] <Peeco> nope, unfortunately the bios doesnt allow
[12:14] <scguy318> Vorbote: well, yeah, he already said it couldn't do it :P
[12:14] <tuxick> do all unbuntus use this adept thing?
[12:14] <wols_> Proteus: with udev it should but only if the kernel log shows them first. krenel not recognizing the new device: nothing syslog can or will do
[12:14] <RandomShadowMan> http://pastebin.ca/834713
[12:14] <scguy318> tuxick: no, some of us use Synaptic
[12:14] <Jordan_U> tuxick, No, only Kubuntu
[12:14] <aniac> the problem is that I can't view correctly greek named mp3's when i use exaile / amarok
[12:14] <tuxick> is that worse or better?
[12:14] <ikonia> wols_: I'm asking him to tail the log with another device plugging in to see if any events are being picked up, or just that device
[12:14] <tuxick> ow i remember synaptic
[12:14] <Peeco> and my dvd drive is fooked!
[12:15] <wols_> aniac: cat /etc/environment
[12:15] <gabbah> do i need to mount my linux partition before i run grub setup?
[12:15] <Jordan_U> tuxick, You can use synaptic in KDE
[12:15] <scguy318> Peeco: so try UNetBoot
[12:15] <ikonia> Peeco: that language is uncalled for.
[12:15] <tuxick> Jordan_U: sure :)
[12:15] <Jordan_U> gabbah, No
[12:15] <wols_> ikonia: good idea, but kernel log doesn't care about udev or that jaczz. if usb device works, it is in demsg. if not...
[12:15] <ikonia> gabbah: no
[12:15] <Peeco> scguy318: ill have a look, thanks
[12:15] <gabbah> Jordan_U what happens if i do mount it first?
[12:15] <ikonia> wols_: only if usb ports are hunh
[12:15] <ikonia> hung
[12:15] <scguy318> Peeco: basically just installs a few files and a new entry in boot.ini, shows up in NTLDR, you boot to it, then you do a net install
[12:15] <tuxick> anyway, atm i really need to know if there's any chance on getting flash working at all
[12:15] <Peeco> ikonia: apologies, im new here
[12:16] <Jordan_U> gabbah, Nothing that I know of
[12:16] <ikonia> Peeco: your not, I've seen you in here before.
[12:16] <tuxick> without spending a day on incorrect instructions
[12:16] <Vorbote> scguy318: Try with a BIOS update with you maiinboard vendor, it may hekp
[12:16] <gabbah> Jordan_U what happens if i do mount it first? what i do is root (hd0,5) and then setup (hd0)... but it says it can't find the partition
[12:16] <tuxick> no flash will mean i try something else
[12:16] <scguy318> Vorbote: I'm not the one with a problem :P
[12:16] <aniac> wols_ thanks but htere is LANG="el_GR.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE="el_GR:el:en_GB:en" for language...
[12:16] <Jordan_U> gabbah, How may partitions do you have?
[12:16] <aniac> maybe changing utf-8 to iso?
[12:16] <scguy318> Vorbote: did you mean to address Peeco?
[12:17] <Peeco> ikonia: i joined yesterday under the alias peco1
[12:17] <wols_> aniac: do you see empty squares instead of letters in those apps?
[12:17] <Vorbote> scguy318: Yep, lost the trhead.
[12:17] <RandomShadowMan> what should i do?
[12:17] <Peeco> this was my first time!!
[12:17] <gabbah> Jordan_U I have 3 partitions. ntfs - ext3 - ntfs.  But the ext3 is called /dev/sda5
[12:17] <Peeco> latest bios doesnt allow also
[12:17] <Proteus> oh hey, I think the drive may have just been too hot
[12:17] <American-Tech> Does anybody here use mail notification
[12:17] <wols_> Peeco: there is a way but it's convoluted
[12:17] <Proteus> letting it cool off, then I'll try again
[12:17] <ikonia> Peeco: thats interesting my irc logs show the user Peeco from the BT address range your on being in here over the last month
[12:18]  * png is away: I'm busy
[12:18] <[Chief]> I have antother probelm with my network card :-( on each reboot the device is "renamed", so when teh device is eth14, on the next boot it is eth15 and so on
[12:18] <Jordan_U> gabbah, Why is it called that?
[12:18] <ikonia> !away > png
[12:18] <wols_> rsize windows partition to make free space. install wubi to windows partition, inside wubi ren debootstrap
[12:18] <gabbah> Jordan_U i mean, it says cannot mount selected partition, when i run setup
[12:18] <aniac> wols_ no, those are the two last lines and are exactly as i pasted there before..
[12:18] <png> !iknow_it_was_just_a_mistake > ikonia
[12:18] <IIronnick> ohohoooo
[12:18] <Jordan_U> gabbah, I think that is because you are giving it the wrong partition
[12:18] <gabbah> Jordan_U i don't know... it's always had that name.
[12:18] <Peeco> ikonia: that is strange, as i only just began investigating ubuntu yesterday!!
[12:19] <Microslave> [Chief]: are you using 'gnome-network-manager' to configure the device?
[12:19] <American-Tech> Does anybody here use mail notification (The program)
[12:19] <[Chief]> Microslave: There is no X, it's the server distribution
[12:19] <Peeco> wols: can you elaborate?
[12:19] <Jordan_U> gabbah, Is the ext3 partition the first, second, or third partition? Are they all primary?
[12:19] <tuxick> aha! found useful clues
[12:19] <gabbah> Jordan_U no matter what partition i give it in the root command, it always says cannot mount selected partition when i then run setup command
[12:19] <tuxick> http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/
[12:20] <aniac> wols_ in general i use greek file names in other apps, but as in case of amarok/axaile there seems to be a problem...
[12:20] <tuxick> shame package managers don't do these things for you
[12:20] <gabbah> Jordan_U ext3 is the second. And i'm not sure about primary.. what does that mean?
[12:20] <aniac> in amarok i tried also changing the font but nothing changed
[12:20] <Jordan_U> tuxick, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#head-8786ac65f14f8d5685d016c5d5b6e927cee11f9d
[12:20] <scguy318> tuxick: flashplugin-nonfree actually does do the job, but it's broken at the moment
[12:20] <wols_> aniac: not all programs are multilanguage capabple
[12:20] <tuxick> scguy318: i noticed :)
[12:20] <scguy318> i think we have a factoid for that
[12:20] <Microslave> [Chief]: that's odd ... what NIC make/model is it?
[12:20] <tuxick> scguy318: and running manually didn't work either
[12:20] <scguy318> !brokenflash
[12:20] <wols_> [Chief]: ls /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent-net-generator.rules
[12:20] <ikonia> tuxick: you where in here yesterday and we talked about the flash plugin issues
[12:20] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:20] <tuxick> so i just copied the libs
[12:20] <ikonia> scguy318: flashissues
[12:21] <tuxick> ikonia: no i wasn't
[12:21] <frederick> how can I regenerate the xorg.conf file with dpkg again
[12:21] <scguy318> ikonia: synonym?
[12:21] <tuxick> i only booted this installation this morning ;)
[12:21] <ikonia> tuxick:  tuxick> no flash will mean i try something else
[12:21] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | frederick
[12:21] <ubotu> frederick: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[12:21] <ikonia> iios
[12:21] <ikonia> oops
[12:21] <tuxick> ikonia: that wasn't yesterday
[12:21] <ikonia> apoloogies
[12:21] <tuxick>  :)
[12:21] <ikonia> wrong paste
[12:21] <tuxick> anyway
[12:21] <wols_> Peeco: no. either you understand what I mean or you are too inexperienced to do it hosing your windows install. my advice is: buy a optical drive. DVDROMs cost less than 20 bucks
[12:22] <tuxick> except for adept being half broken kubuntu seems to meet requirements now
[12:22] <tuxick> it's meant for user desktops
[12:22] <scguy318> wols_: what of UNetBoot? is it too impractical for Peeco?
[12:22] <[Chief]> Microslave: Its a RTL8211BL ( Motehrbaod with nforce630a Chipset)
[12:22] <wols_> scguy318: since I don't know that thing, I dunno
[12:22] <[Chief]> wols_: This file exists, what should I do with it?
[12:23] <sigra> Hello,  I am not finding much help on google for this problem and wondering if someone here can help.  when I go to system sounds and click test sound capture it is giving me a error.  in return I am not getting sounds on certain apps.
[12:23] <frederick> i'm logged on as root nobody ghost me
[12:23] <wols_> [Chief]: move it elsewhere. it should stop the eth renaming.
[12:23] <gabbah> Jordan_U it seems u were right. it was partition number 4, instead of 5...
[12:23] <gabbah> Jordan_U well at least setup command worked.. let's see if i can boot now
[12:24] <aniac> wols hmmm but i think there should be a solution... especially amarok is too famous and too many years in use... may I search somewhere else about that?
[12:24] <aniac> on the other hand it seems strange to me that none of both amarok and exaile doesn't provide an interface to choose charset...
[12:24] <wols_> [Chief]: I told you your RTL8211BL is NOT a network card. it's your network's PHY and the only place this is important is the connection of your PC to the ethernet cable
[12:24] <gabbah> Jordan_U dammit.. now i get the menu, and i select to boot ubuntu, but i get error 17: cannot mount selected partition!
[12:24] <Microslave> wols_: I thought the point of that file was to guard against what [Chief] is seeing. (at least that is what the rule says it's suppose to do)
[12:24] <[Chief]> wols_: k, I moved it, teh server is restarting ..
[12:25] <Peeco> wols: yes im v inexperienced, but willing to learn.  im just looking for a guide.  thanks for your help.
[12:25] <scguy318> !install | Peeco
[12:25] <ubotu> Peeco: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:25] <lonejack> does somebody know how to show special chars, in particular this [ ` ], that is different respect to [ ' ]. Thank you
[12:25] <wols_> Microslave: it generates a new eth everytime a new MAC is in the system
[12:25] <scguy318> Peeco: covers some options, including mine I suggested
[12:25] <[Chief]> wols_: So, how can i find out the name of my network card?
[12:25] <Mortuis> Does anyone know if rsync can use protocol 1?
[12:25] <Microslave> wols_: yeah, same card *I would hope* would hold the same MAC addy.
[12:25] <Peeco> scguy318: cheers, im on the pages now having a browse
[12:26] <wols_> Peeco: I don't have a guide for this, it's something I just made up on the spot. while I know it will work it'S not easy for someone new and then the probability of destroying windows is high
[12:26] <Mortuis> ugh, never mind. Of course once I break down and ask for help I find it in the man page.
[12:26] <wols_> [Chief]: you have an integrated nvidia GBit ethernet card which uses forcedeth as its driver
[12:26] <tho1> lonejack you can map keys to those special characters in a file called Xmodmap that you place in your home directory. It will be read at login.
[12:27] <[Chief]> wols_: k, thx, the device is now called eth0, I make another restart but I think it's working
[12:27] <[Chief]> wols_: But why does the driver always give me another MAC? is this a bug?
[12:28] <wols_> see what the message said
[12:28] <lonejack> tho1: under windows that char can be typed with a Alt-096, is it possible to do something similar under ubuntu?
[12:28] <wols_> [Chief]: it could be cause your chipset is very new and not fully properly recognized
[12:29] <wols_> or it could be your mobo maker screwed up, I don't know
[12:29] <sokiri> hell i was told to come here and ask for fglrx from the ubuntu restricted driver
[12:29] <wols_> !ati | sokiri
[12:29] <sokiri> *hello even
[12:29] <ubotu> sokiri: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <[Chief]> wols_: k, thx
[12:30] <sokiri> thanks
[12:31] <tho1> lonejack there is a small X utility that displays all those characters. You can use that util to copy a character into the clipboard. I am looking to see if I can find it for you. There are also similar gnome- and kde- specific utilties that perform the same function, but I don't use either gnome or kde
[12:32] <frederick> my friend is saying he's getting dpkg-reconfigure as command not found
[12:32] <frederick> what could be wrong with his system?
[12:32]  * Microslave gets mad at compiz ...
[12:33] <user42> hello everyone
[12:33] <wols_> frederick: he isn't using sudo
[12:33] <frederick> wols_: i see
[12:34] <wols_> the command only makes sense when run under root priviledges
[12:34] <scguy318> wols_: for command not found?
[12:34] <scguy318> wols_: if you run it as a user it'll ask you to run as root
[12:35] <Tha1> hey
[12:35] <scguy318> frederick: perhaps your friend possibly mistyped, though he'll probably need the sudo bit too
[12:36] <neztiti> guys please help me   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49787/
[12:36] <user42> im glad ubuntu defaults to gnome, its much less bloated than kde
[12:36] <tho1> lonejack in gnome it is gucharmap, kde kcharselect
[12:36] <wols_> user42: you might be mistaken
[12:36] <lonejack> tho1: thank you very much
[12:37] <user42> well all distros that have a gnome and kde release, have a larger kde release
[12:37] <frederick> wols_: some guy who doesn't know about #ubuntu yet
[12:37] <user42> or well, all that i have noted
[12:37] <wols_> scguy318: it's in /usr/sbin which is not in a user's path, only root's. so yes, just typing dpkg-reconfigure gives you command not found
[12:37] <frederick> wols_: or any command line arguments
[12:37] <Tha1> i've got a question regarding configuring Apache2 and Subversion
[12:37] <uchazco> Hi... can i prevent my laptop running fsck when its on battery?
[12:37] <neztiti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49787/
[12:38] <user42> i duno it might be my hardware specifics, but kde crashes a lot more than gnome
[12:38] <uchazco> !laptop
[12:38] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[12:39] <lonejack> tho1: another people told me how to type that char, It's easy: Alt+'...
[12:40] <scguy318> wols_: /usr/sbin is in my path, I guess that only applies to the default account?
[12:40] <wols_> scguy318: it shouldn't be in your user's path
[12:40] <MYRM1D0N> when i go to xbox.com.... it says to install missing plugins... so i select it... it says to install adobe flash player... once i select that... it says cannot find flash plugin-nonfree.... any help?
[12:40] <wols_> !flashissue | MYRM1D0N
[12:40] <ubotu> MYRM1D0N: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:40] <scguy318> wols_: but it is, and I don't recall tweaking it so hmm
[12:41] <albator> Good morning
[12:41] <Microslave> wols_: it is in my path as well (well default/main user it is ) I added it on all subsequent user
[12:41] <wols_> then maybe there are differences, I've encountered ubuntus without it
[12:42] <tho1> wols_ logged in via ssh to my server (7.10) and both sbin directories are part of the path for a normal user
[12:43] <MYRM1D0N> ok, thanx for the info... any idea how long the fix will take?
[12:43] <JWay> how can I adjust the touchpad on my laptop so that it takes a lighter press with the finger to click?
[12:43] <tho1> wols_ all three.../sbin /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin
[12:43] <albator> Do you still have to use ndis wrapper for broadcom wireless cards in ubuntu gusty?
[12:43] <scguy318> albator: you might if bcm43xx doesn't cut it for you
[12:43] <lesshaste_> what is people's favourite tool to convert videos to a format an ipod can play?
[12:43] <lesshaste_> most likely mp4
[12:43] <wols_> albator: no
[12:43] <wols_> !broadcom | albator
[12:43] <ubotu> albator: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:44] <scguy318> lesshaste_: ffmpeg
[12:44] <albator> thx
[12:44] <lesshaste_> scguy318, interesting
[12:44] <bazhang> lesshaste_: podencoder?
[12:44] <Microslave> wols_: cat /etc/login.defs |grep -i path
[12:44] <danker> hi all
[12:44] <lesshaste_> bazhang, aha! :)
[12:44] <danker> kto po russki govorit
[12:44] <albator> getting "error Microcode "bcm43XX_microcode5.fw" not available" in dmesg
[12:44] <danker> ?
[12:44] <tho1> !ru
[12:44] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:45] <wols_> albator: obviously. maybe you should read the link?
[12:45] <Wander_w> albator: install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:45] <lesshaste_> bazhang, thanks
[12:45] <albator> will do!
[12:45] <bazhang> http://linuxappfinder.com/package/podencoder lesshaste_
[12:45] <user42> kde 4.1 comes out jan11, when will kubuntu incorporate kde4.x?
[12:45] <lesshaste_> bazhang, thanks... looks great
[12:46] <wols_> user42: hardy
[12:46] <lesshaste_> except..which package has mp4box?
[12:46] <khelll> how to restart the memcached server?
[12:46] <neztiti> guys what error here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49787/
[12:47] <bazhang> http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/08/30/ipod-video-howto lesshaste_
[12:47] <lesshaste_> bazhang, I've got it thanks :)
[12:47] <lesshaste_> gpac is what was missing
[12:47] <bazhang> lesshaste_: no worries
[12:48] <lesshaste_> bazhang, why is there a separate mencoder and mplayer package?
[12:48] <bazhang> lesshaste_:
[12:48] <bazhang> not sure
[12:48] <user42> im a nooblet
[12:48] <Microslave> neztiti: short answer; there is a package you want to install that everything else requires but it can;t be installed...
[12:48] <bazhang> sorry for the early enter lesshaste_
[12:48] <lesshaste_> bazhang, :)
[12:49] <albator> Nice and simple, would be nice if there was some wizzard or something to enable it for newbs "wirless just works" is killer feature imo
[12:50] <bmack> i just installed kubuntu to dual-boot with windows vista, on the boot-up i was wonder if there is a way i can change the way it boots up. it gives me 3 ubuntu options and 1 vista is there a way to narrow it to 1 vista and 1 ubuntu?
[12:50] <Wander_w> albator: I believe that there is a "Install restricted firmware" question on the taskbar, so I think its pretty obvious
[12:50] <gnomeboy> i need help ..i installed compiz and activated something..whenever my mouse scrolls over a window .,that window is selected
[12:50] <Buyydee> yes, try sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:50] <gnomeboy> how to deactivate ut
[12:51] <albator> u think my grannie knows what that means?
[12:51] <gnomeboy> it
[12:51] <Buyydee> @bmack
[12:51] <bmack> ok
[12:51] <Buyydee> bmack: at the end of the file, there are the entries of your OS
[12:51] <Wander_w> albator: You think your granny can pull of a fresh Ubuntu install?
[12:51] <user42> gnomeboy thats in compiz fusion settings manager
[12:51] <user42> you can disable that there
[12:51] <bmack> is ubuntu recovery mode and memtest needed?
[12:51] <gnomeboy> yea wat is it called
[12:51] <Buyydee> bmack: delete the ones you don't like
[12:51] <wols_> Wander_w: since my granny can't install windows or ubuntu or OSX, who cares
[12:52] <user42> what you said, just do "advanced search"
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> bmack: i would not delete recoverymode
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> and don't delete them, just comment them out
[12:52] <Buyydee> bmack: you might need them when the system doesn't work properly, but you can start them from the cd
[12:52] <Wander_w> wols_: indeed
[12:52] <bmack> ok
[12:52] <bmack> ok
[12:52] <bmack> thanks
[12:52] <Microslave> wols_: :)
[12:52] <albator> isnt the idea to continue to make the OS as simple to use as possible?
[12:52] <bmack> love kubuntu btw :)
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> the minute you delete them, you'll need them, then its a pain in the ass
[12:52] <user42> compiz fusion is so damn cool
[12:52] <Buyydee> indygunfreak: true
[12:53] <_Lemon_> Hey, I have one Windows XP machine which has an ad-hoc wireless network set up on it, my computer can connect to it with Windows but my Ubuntu installation can't seem to connect at all, what can I do to remedy the situation?
[12:53] <albator> I only mention it as there is already some really nice un techy symatics included in other things
[12:53] <user42> is ubuntu the first distro to really make an attempt at linuxifying noobs?
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> thats why the # sign is a beautiful thing... if you read menu.lst, it tells you if you put # in front of the line, it will be ignored
[12:53] <bmack> right
[12:53]  * Kirua_ fais la pompom girl
[12:53] <andys> Yesterday I foolishly installed a kernel update on my xubuntu 7.10. I encrypted the hd with dm-crypt (wiki) and so it doesn|t boot after that kernel update. what should I do now? I already tried following the tutorial again, but I either get a file not found error when booting or a cant boot from selected partition error
[12:53] <wols_> bmack: why would you want to delete it?
[12:53] <Wander_w> user42: No, not by a long shot
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> so you put the # sign in front of a menu listing, it won't be shown.., if you need it, all you have to do is delete the pound sign
[12:53] <user42> oh, ok
[12:53] <gnomeboy> user42 i still cant find it
[12:53] <wols_> IndyGunFreak: you can edit grub menu "on the fly", tho I doubt bmack could do it when he actually needs it
[12:53] <Wander_w> user42: But it is one of the first that noobs actually notice
[12:54] <bmack> my girl isnt to computer smart and doesnt know which to choose
[12:54] <user42> gnomeboy hold on ill find it
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> wols_: and that is my point.
[12:54] <gnomeboy> thanks
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't say it couldn't be done
[12:54] <turbocueca__> Hello
[12:54] <bmack> so id rather it just boot vista for her by default
[12:54] <wols_> IndyGunFreak: not to mention it will be back after the next update-grub
[12:54] <wols_> bmack: then set vista as default
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> wols_: again though, you're dealing with people here who are clueless about linux.
[12:54] <turbocueca__> When I share a folder using samba @ ubuntu gutsy, I can see the folder in the network, but while accessing it, says it doesn't exist
[12:55] <bmack> ok
[12:56] <user42> gnomeboy i have seen it before, but now i cant find it either, wierd
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> bmack: doesn't know which o choose?  just set grub to give you 15-20sec to choose, i would think she'd know how to choose vista... i'd hope anyway
[12:56] <user42> it shouldnt raise window on mouse over by default
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> regardless though, Vista as default should work fine.
[12:56] <gnomeboy> yea
[12:57] <bmack> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-bmack" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-bmack" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 Error: "/tmp/ksocket-bmack" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[12:57]  * Microslave gets downright angry with compiz.. ok, now I know it's the problem... I have this lappie with ATI video card, with the fglx driver and compiz the thing over heats and shuts off....  I remove compiz it does come close to overheating
[12:57] <Wander_w> I'd say; If your girlfriend isn't computer-smart, then set Ubuntu as default.. Did that for my girlfriend when she broke Windows
[12:57] <gnomeboy> i remember seeing it..now i cant find it >_<
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> Wander_w: lol.. good point
[12:57] <Wander_w> Microslave: That is not a problem of compiz, it's your hardware that malfunctions
[12:57] <Microslave> Wander_w: worked well?  my girl keeps breaking `doze and I haven't gotten up to formatting her system
[12:58] <user42> lol gnome i have no idea where that thing is, i searched for "raise" "mouse" "mouse over" and got nothing
[12:58] <Wander_w> Microslave: yes, works like a charm
[12:58] <albator> My gran has been useing ubuntu for around 3 years, she can break a computer  by looking at it
[12:58] <gnomeboy> any1 else know how to shut off the auto raise window in conpiz?
[12:58] <user42> if you like eye candy you should install avant window manager, its like the macintosh dock
[12:58] <Wander_w> Microslave: But I must say, my girlfriend doesn't use ANY software outside a browser
[12:58] <bmack> any reason why i get those errors?
[12:59] <Microslave> Wander_w: mine either
[12:59] <Buyydee> gnomeboy: yes, start the config-program by typing gnome-compiz-preferences
[12:59] <Wander_w> Microslave: then go for it
[12:59] <gnomeboy> n then?
[12:59] <gnomeboy> i use ccsm
[13:00] <Wander_w> Microslave: My girlfriend was pretty pleased by the fast bootup, and lack of options (I set Windowmaker with just 1 icon on it (browser))
[13:00] <Buyydee> gnomeboy: on the second tab, there is a field right at the top, remove the check
[13:00] <jhaig> Not entirely sure what I have done, but now every time I click on a link in Firefox, the link opens in a background tab, and the scroll wheel on my mouse changes the size of the text, instead of scrolling the page.  Anyone know what I might have turned on, and how to turn it off again?  Thanks.
[13:01] <Wander_w> Microslave: I allso set the poweroff button (the one on the case) to act as a "proper" shutdown procedure; it's really easy for her
[13:01] <Buyydee> jhaig: sounds like ctrl-lock :D maybe reboot? or broken keyboard
[13:01] <Microslave> Wander_w: well, I could blame the ATI M24 (mobility x600) chip but it's ATI I except it act like crap
[13:02] <singh> thanks to all for making ubuntu a great stuff
[13:02] <jhaig> Buyydee: I'm using synergy.  Might that be causing problems?
[13:02] <Wander_w> Microslave: Any hardware that overheats from normal use is BROKEN in my opinion
[13:02] <Buyydee> jhaig: i'm not familiar with that, sry
[13:02] <user42> i wish i could pay my respect to open source developers without having to donate money
[13:02] <Microslave> Wander_w: I was thinking if setting it to be more as a sleep/hibernate; she doesn't turn her laptop off
[13:02] <Wander_w> user42: then donate code, or translate some applications
[13:02] <Blinkiz> I would like to test if "twofish-cbc-essiv:sha256" is faster than "aes-cbc-essiv:sha256". Can anyone recommend a tool for that?
[13:02] <Blinkiz> I would like to test if "twofish-cbc-essiv:sha256" is faster than "aes-cbc-essiv:sha256". Can anyone recommend a tool for that?
[13:02] <Wander_w> Microslave: Good idea
[13:03] <jhaig> Buyydee: Synergy is for using one mouse and keyboard for two (or more) machines.
[13:03] <user42> i could do some nice howto's
[13:03] <theunixgeek> How can I install templates in Nautilus?
[13:03] <Wander_w> user42: Great idea! go for it
[13:03] <user42> and i have an extremely valuable nvidia hack that fixes a huge compiz fusion thats heavily reported
[13:04] <rhetoric> *sigh* i did something very bad. i changed /etc/fstab while a NFS mount was mounted, then tried to unmount it, now i've broken gnome ><
[13:04] <theunixgeek> How do I install templates in nautilus?
[13:04] <Wander_w> user42: Really? where can I find it? I still get black flickerings now and then
[13:04] <Buyydee> jhaig: might be, unplug your keyboard from the device and plug it in directly to your computer while it is off, then start it. if the problem persists, your synergy isn't the source. be back here then :)
[13:05] <user42> the black flickering is caused by the theme
[13:06] <user42> if the theme is set to something thats not skinned you wont see that black flicker on any menu or anything
[13:06] <Wander_w> user42: Really? then why does it work allright untill after I open 15+ applications?
[13:06] <AliTarihi> Hi everyone!
[13:06] <singh> somtimes my monitor gets blank after successful booting.
[13:07] <AliTarihi> I have a question: I've installed the latest Nvidia driver but I have no 3D acceleration.
[13:07] <rhetoric> if i log in to gnome (even the default session) my system load goes through the roof and im unable to do anything :( god i feel stupid atm
[13:07] <user42> beats me, less resources i guess. if you right click on the desktop and hit change desktop background, then go to the theme tab, and hit customize, and select the thinice theme you wont have black flickering
[13:07] <singh> i witness all the booting process but after gdm is started it suddenly gets blank on the monitor
[13:08] <user42> but the main nvidia problem im talking about is that nvidia downclocks its cards when theres no intensive 3d animation going on, but it doesnt react quickly enough to speed back up when you, say, drag a window after a short idle period
[13:08] <Microslave> "why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill"....
[13:08] <singh> help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11somtimes my monitor gets blank after successful booting.
[13:08] <singh> i witness all the booting process but after gdm is started it suddenly gets blank on the monitor
[13:08] <user42> so you get a real choppy response for a few seconds, which ruins tons of animations
[13:09] <acidicchip> singh, turn off your screen saver?
[13:09] <Wander_w> user42: Yeah, I noticed that, never knew that was because of the video clock
[13:09] <Pici> !patience
[13:09] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:09] <user42> while true; do nvidia-settings -q all > /dev/null; sleep 25; done
[13:09] <Microslave> singh: what happens if you move your mouse around?
[13:09] <Wander_w> user42: What's the fix for that then?
[13:09] <user42> make that an executable and put it in autostart
[13:09] <user42> fixes it completely
[13:10] <singh> it is just blank not take any movement any key pressed into consideration
[13:10] <AliTarihi> I have a question: I've installed the latest Nvidia driver but I have no 3D acceleration.
[13:10] <singh> its completely freezes
[13:11] <rhetoric> so yeah im a complete moron and i changed the fstab entry of an NFS share, then tried to unmount it, then changed it back, then tried to unmount it, and now i cant get into gnome without system load going so high i cant do anything
[13:11] <Wander_w> user42: well... that probably keeps the GPU running at full speed all the time then? not so nice for my laptop then :(
[13:11] <singh> Microslave: it completely freezes
[13:11] <rhetoric> i got into an X terminal session but i dont know what to do to rescue my system
[13:11] <lui_G> !de
[13:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:11] <user42> hmm yeah, but then compiz fusion isnt good either, if you dont like heat and low battery life
[13:12] <Unknown50267> i've installed gdesklets, now how can i run it?
[13:12] <tehk> Is there any way to change the copy paste keybindings to super-C and super-V
[13:12] <Wander_w> user42: true, true
[13:13] <user42> i havent noticed much of a decrease in battery life using that hack. i thought i would but i dont
[13:14] <herbalise> hi is have added my ubuntu to the domain an can login with domain user.  is there a way to pass credentials while browsing smb shares using nautilus? so i don't have to type use name and password again?
[13:15] <freakynl> hey there, i have an ubuntu server machine on which i want to install vmware server. vwmare server needs the kernel headers to build some modules. now i'm running 2.6.20-15-server. if i want to d/l the headers it wants to fetch the 2.6.20-16-server headers. i'm not running that kernel and I can't reboot the machine. can i still get the 2.6.20-15-server headers somewhere?
[13:15] <chraso> hello chennal
[13:16] <thomahasamoot> hello, folks
[13:16] <user42> im going to sleep, goodnight
[13:16] <Microslave> freakynl: yes, be specific in your apt-get
[13:16] <thomahasamoot> sweet dreams
[13:16]  * Kirua_ urla
[13:16] <freakynl> Microslave: yea just figured it out, apt-cache search doesn't show the older versions tho
[13:16]  * Kirua_ fit un clonage (technqiue), et les clones essayerent de débarasser mike de sechs
[13:17] <Microslave> apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6.20-15  and  it's there
[13:17] <Pici> !fr | Kopfgeldjaeger
[13:17] <ubotu> Kopfgeldjaeger: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:17] <brobostigon> !fr | kirua
[13:17] <ubotu> kirua: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:17] <Pici> brobostigon: thanks, tab complete is a bit off this morning ;)
[13:17] <thomahasamoot> I'm having trouble w/ X11, nVidia 8600, Kubuntu 7.10 alt amd64, any kind sould care to help?
[13:17] <Kopfgeldjaeger> ?! Pici
[13:18] <Pici> Kopfgeldjaeger: tab complete mismatch, sorry.
[13:18] <Kopfgeldjaeger> k
[13:20] <thomahasamoot> the error I got was could not connect to /dev/nividia0... because there wasn't one
[13:22] <Rufus_> i've installed gdesklets, now how can i run it?
[13:23] <porcho> hi there. I have a doubt regarding DNS functionallity. does an operating system (wheter *nix or Windows) perform DNS local cache by default?
[13:23] <thomahasamoot> so I installed the latest drivers from www.nividia.com
[13:24] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: why did you do that?
[13:24] <IndyGunFreak> and are you sure they're installed.
[13:24]  * Microslave looks for a cig and a cup of coffee ...  anyone else want coffee?
[13:25] <singh> quit
[13:26] <berkes> I want/need to buy a new graphics card. What brand/type a) suppotrs ubuntu best b) has properly released open source drivers?
[13:26] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: no, now the kernel symbols are mismatched... so I tried reinstalling the apt-get drivers, and kernel... but the symbols are still messed up
[13:26] <IndyGunFreak> berkes: Nvidia should work fine.
[13:26] <Wander_w> porcho: No, I don't think that DNS requests are normally cached, however, you can put up a caching DNS server yourself
[13:26] <IndyGunFreak> !hardware | berkes
[13:26] <ubotu> berkes: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[13:27] <berkes> IndyGunFreak: mkay, do they play "the OSS game" nicely?  I want to buy from manufacturors that play nice. To support them, and to make sure others will follow.
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> i hadn't heard that
[13:28] <Wander_w> berkes: NVIDIA doesn't play the opensource game AT ALL, they do however, release a quality closed source driver for Linux
[13:28] <berkes> thomahasamoot: still flglx is not OSS;
[13:29] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: yeap, but it was a short time ago, so the OSS drivers probley aren't ready yet
[13:29] <berkes> Wander_w: thanks, that's a couple of thumbs down for an Nvidia card then :)
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> berkes: you're likely not going to find a video card that is 100% open source
[13:29] <Microslave> berkes: video cards and drivers is very competitive you will not find 100% open source
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: interesting, hadn't heard that
[13:29] <Wander_w> IndyGunFreak: Well, last I heard the Intel ones were pretty much all opensource
[13:29] <berkes> IndyGunFreak: It needs not be all-Floss, just that there are proper GPLed drivers around, supported by the manufaturor is fine
[13:29] <TeTeT> is there a voice command system for Ubuntu?
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> Wander_w: really?.. i can't get the intel graphics drivers installed on my laptop...
[13:30] <Microslave> berkes: ATI and NVidia play well enough with Linux these days, Nvidia a bit better IHMO but some will disagree
[13:30] <Fish-Guts> hey folks
[13:30] <IndyGunFreak> Microslave: id have to agree w/ that, i like Nvidia, cuz i run dual monitors, and it was a pain in ATI..., Nvidia it takes all of about 4min
[13:30] <Wander_w> IndyGunFreak: Well... then maybe my memory isn't what it used to be :)
[13:30] <berkes> found this. https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/video nice enough
[13:30] <IndyGunFreak> Wander_w: lol.. we all hae that prob
[13:30] <Wander_w> Microslave: Yeah, nvidia cards are better to use, but less open than ati's
[13:31] <Reglaa> Can anyone recommend a gutsy alternative to peerguardian2?
[13:31] <Microslave> IndyGunFreak: video cards starts wars as bad as vi vs emacs
[13:31] <IndyGunFreak> Microslave: lol, or KDE vs Gnome... that one gets bloody
[13:31] <thomahasamoot> so how do I go about fixing X11?
[13:32] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: why didn't you just use the restricted driver manager?
[13:32] <arte_> hi there has any1 a problem when firefox freezes bcoz of flash video?
[13:32] <thomahasamoot> I did
[13:32] <Wander_w> vi is the BEST editor there is!
[13:32] <berkes> Wander_w: I, myself hardly play any games. Though with the Beryl stuff, I do like some 3d acceleration.
[13:32] <Microslave> IndyGunFreak: that one I thunk everyone on... who needs a desktop env. you just a wm :)
[13:32] <IndyGunFreak> i thought you said you downloaded the driver from nvidia?
[13:32]  * syc_ brb, makan dolo...
[13:33] <thomahasamoot> and it worked... until it stoped after rebooting while trying to get KVM working
[13:33] <herbalise> hi is have added my ubuntu to the domain an can login with domain user.  is there a way to pass credentials while browsing smb shares using nautilus? so i don't have to type use name and password again?
[13:33] <arte_> can any1 help me to avoid firefox freezin when watchin flash video on utube etc ..
[13:34] <freakynl> is ipv6 backwards compatible with ipv4? xinetd binds a port to tcp <IP_ADDRESS>:<port>, ssh binds to tcp6 :::22, bind is crazy and binds to tcp6 :::53 and all my IP's (over a 100) seperately tcp <ip>:53
[13:34] <thomahasamoot> I downloaded the driver, after it stoped working, then I noticed they just realest a new version... so I thought I'd try it... pluss usplash has /never/ worked
[13:35] <arte_> !russian
[13:35] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[13:35] <r_gti> hi
[13:35] <Microslave> damn my gf is snoring again...   time to roll her back over to her side.....
[13:35] <r_gti> do anyone knows how i can install ubuntu amd64 with alternative cd?
[13:35] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: usplash, i'm pretty sure thats a gutsy problem, none of my gutsy boxes, usplash works.
[13:36] <IndyGunFreak> !usplash
[13:36] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[13:36] <arte_> Microslave: i wud kill her
[13:36] <bazhang> Microslave: you have a support question?
[13:36] <Myrtti> r_gti: other than download the iso, burn it, pop it in and install=
[13:36] <bazhang> arte_: support question?
[13:36] <IndyGunFreak> r_gti: 64bit Ubuntu has an alternate CD.
[13:37] <arte_> at last baz
[13:37] <IndyGunFreak> r_gti: but if you're new to Linux/Ubuntu, i'd suggest sticking w/ 32bit for the time being.
[13:37] <r_gti> Mytti i done all theese i had install ubuntu before with live cd but know the xserver dont start in the live cd with amd64 version of ubuntu
[13:37] <herbalise> hi is have added my ubuntu to the domain an can login with domain user.  is there a way to pass credentials while browsing smb shares using nautilus? so i don't have to type use name and password again?
[13:37] <arte_> baz still hear me ?
[13:37] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: I think I need a clean kernel and to download the apt-get driver at this point... is that right?
[13:37] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: probably
[13:37] <r_gti> i put 4gb ram and 32bit dont recognize it in my laptop
[13:38] <simmerz> i can't seem to get my phone to see my laptop via bluetooth. the laptop is set up as turned on and discoverable
[13:38] <ace_> im gonna give suspend a try
[13:38]  * ace_ crosses fingers
[13:38] <Microslave> bazhang: nope .... just killing time and giving my tim to answer any questions people may have that i know the answers to...
[13:38] <r_gti> so i want install amd64 version
[13:38] <ace_> wish me luck
[13:38] <IndyGunFreak> r_gti: have fun
[13:38] <Myrtti> Microslave: so keep the offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic, and support here
[13:38] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: the trouble is I'm not sure how to get it clean...
[13:38] <Fish-Guts> i recently changed from debian to ubuntu. does ubuntu come with only 2 workspaces?
[13:38] <Myrtti> Fish-Guts: you can add them as many as you like
[13:38] <simmerz> Fish-Guts: right click and change it if you want 4
[13:38] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: good question, might be easier to reinstall
[13:38] <arte_> ny brain.dll dznt worl plz help ... lol
[13:39] <bazhang> arte_: you need to type out my full nick; first three letters and tab key will do it--what is the issue?
[13:39] <Wander_w> simmerz: I think most phones look for specific bleutooth profiles (like the headset profile) and won't show other devices
[13:39] <r_gti> the way to install ubuntu from alternative disc is the same like live cd?
[13:39] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: you mean the whole system?
[13:39] <Fish-Guts> ah, my bad :)
[13:39] <Fish-Guts> sorry for bothering
[13:39] <Microslave> roger...
[13:39] <IndyGunFreak> thats what *I* would do, i don't generally trouble shoot much though when I screw something up
[13:39] <marco__> bjhb
[13:39] <arte_> bazhang, the problem is i think ur bot
[13:40] <arte_> :)
[13:40] <simmerz> Wander_w: normally it will see a laptop or another phone. it used to see it when i had gentoo on it
[13:40] <IndyGunFreak> you make it sound like installing is a huge chore.. i an have my system back up, and completely configured, along w/ all my music, movies, etc.(around 12-15gigs), back in place in about an hour.
[13:40] <bazhang> arte_: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:40] <Wander_w> simmerz: then maybe ubuntu has different profiles enabled/disabled?
[13:40] <arte_> i ask the question twice before cud u plz put ur head up
[13:41] <r_gti> also i want to learn if anyone use compiz with geforce 8600m gt
[13:41] <simmerz> Wander_w: well normally it will notice a computer, laptop or desktop or otherwise
[13:41] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: welll... I'll look... but I don't think it'll figure out my LVM setup
[13:41] <kkouwe> sometimes when i trie to load my webpage (apache), i get the firefox error ("The connection was reset"). No entry in the error log (debug mode)... Can someone point me a direction?
[13:42] <arte_> bazhang, firefox freezes when i try to watch flash video on youtube, if truly when goin from 1 video to another
[13:42] <arte_> bazhang, ???
[13:43] <bazhang> arte_: you have the latest version of ubuntu gutsy 7.10?
[13:43] <arte_> yes sir
[13:43] <IndyGunFreak> flash never freezes on me, don't know why people keep having probs w/ it.
[13:43] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: you still here?
[13:43] <arte_> u guessed or ur copperfield ?
[13:43] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[13:44] <arte_> bazhang, so ..
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> arte_: how did you install flash?
[13:44] <ace__> somuch for suspend but hibernate works ;)
[13:44] <arte_> IndyGunFreak, firefox plugin install
[13:45] <dejand> hello
[13:45] <Microslave> arte_: try the swfdec-mozilla dpkg instead
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> arte_: i knwo there was some issues w/ the firefox plugin install, i downloaded the tarball from adobe.com and installed that way, and never a prob.
[13:45] <dejand> while installing ubuntu my pc just freezes, what's wrong?:S
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> maybe uninstall and download it from adobe, i don't know.
[13:45] <dejand> when "installing system"
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: how fst did you burn the disk?
[13:46] <herbalise> can somebody point me to a guide for joining my ubuntu to a active directory domain
[13:46] <arte_> ok tnx but i think ffx sux can u recommend better browser ?
[13:46] <herbalise> ubuntu 7.04
[13:46] <dejand> max
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: reburn, and burn SLOW
[13:46] <dejand> herbalise i'm rewritin it again
[13:46] <dejand> you think that's the problem?
[13:46] <dejand> okey i set 10x speed
[13:46] <Microslave> arte_: flock isn;t bad nither is opera
[13:46] <kkouwe> sometimes when i trie to load my webpage, i get the firefox error ("The connection was reset"). No entry in the error log (debug mode)... Can someone point me a direction?
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: more like 2-4x
[13:46] <arte_> how cud i install plugins on opera
[13:47] <dejand> IndyGunFreak 10x is lowest i can get
[13:47] <IndyGunFreak> arte_: i've not gotten flash tow ork in opera..., but some have
[13:47] <arte_> flock ? never heard about hmm
[13:47] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: if you says so.
[13:47] <Wander_w> dejand: There is a "check CD" option when you boot the CD, try that to rule out any cd-burn errors
[13:47] <arte_> !flock
[13:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:47] <Microslave> arte_: I believe flock is based on moz's code but I'm not positive in that
[13:47] <arte_> Microslave, i see ...
[13:48] <arte_> godamn't
[13:48] <Microslave> arte_: Linux.com wrote an article on it not to long ago
[13:48] <arte_> Microslave, tnx mate
[13:49] <arte_> !russian
[13:49] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[13:49]  * syc_ wareggggg
[13:51] <rhetoric> can anyone help me try to rescue my laptop i really did something horrible
[13:51] <Xplicit> if i acces a truecrypt volume (ext) on an ntfs drive will it be slower than on a fat drive?
[13:52] <Myrtti> rhetoric: something horrible being what
[13:52] <Wander_w> Xplicit: Probably, fat is probably slower than ntfs anyway
[13:52] <rhetoric> Myrtti: i tried to unmount an NFS share after changing its fstab entry
[13:53] <rhetoric> Myrtti, then i changed the entry back, and tried again
[13:53] <Myrtti> a-ha.
[13:53] <rhetoric> Myrtti: now every time i start gnome, my system load goes through the roof
[13:54] <rhetoric> Myrtti, even a default session of gnome
[13:54] <Xplicit> will i suffer a real performance hit using a true crypt volume on an ntfs partition as my home then?
[13:54] <chazco> Is it possible to generate an apt-get command from Synaptic?
[13:54] <rhetoric> I'm running top and "apport" is at the top of the CPU list, which makes no sense
[13:55] <pawan> hi
[13:55] <Wander_w> Xplicit: Well, it won't make it any faster, but I'm not shure you'd be able to tell it's slower
[13:56] <gnomeboy> how to get the field describtion for vmstats in terminal?
[13:56] <Xplicit> ok thx, its not that im a paranoid freak just that theyre out to get me and i NEED to encrypt all my data lol
[13:56] <freakynl> gnomeboy: ? it's right above the lines
[13:57] <Wander_w> Xplicit: Well, you can allways try it, and if you don't like it for whatever reasons then you just change back
[13:57] <gnomeboy> i mean the command to get it...besides googlign
[13:57] <ace__> i love "tilda" terminal emulator
[13:57] <freakynl> gnomeboy: man vmstat
[13:57] <gnomeboy> is there a command to make the terminal display/
[13:57] <gnomeboy> ok
[13:57] <gnomeboy> tq
[13:57] <ace__> anyone else love tilda as much as me?
[13:58] <Wander_w> who is tilda?
[13:58] <sayers> gnomeboy, you can go into the key settings and make a short cut for it
[13:58] <fadey> Hi,everyone.I've upgraded the system today and I'm getting the following error "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-UUID/blah... does not exists" while the kernel is booting.Did anyone get the same thing?
[13:58] <Xplicit> !ntfs
[13:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[13:58] <sayers> Wander_w, a terminal emulator like in games where you pres a key and it drops down.
[13:58] <freakynl> ace__: depends if she turns into a cag of beer and my best friends after the deed
[13:58] <ace__> tilda is just another quake console type terminal emulator
[13:58] <sayers> Wander_w, wait I was confused it is also a key right above tab left of 1
[13:59] <Wander_w> can't say i'd be impressed by that
[13:59] <sayers> If you used the terminal a lot you would be.
[13:59] <Wander_w> 1 terminal isn't enough anyway
[13:59] <Wander_w> (got nine running now)
[13:59] <ace__> thats why god created `screen`
[14:00] <Wander_w> I like to keep 9 terminals on 1 screen, keeps stuff easily accesable
[14:00] <ace__> but hey whats the key combo to open the "run comman" dialog
[14:00] <sayers> Wander_w, 9 is a bit much :)
[14:00] <Wander_w> sayers: no its not
[14:00] <sayers> unless you dont have a desktop environment
[14:01] <Wander_w> sayers: I have a desktop enviroment
[14:01] <sayers> I doubt all 8 are being used or you love terminal apps
[14:01] <Wander_w> sayers: in the old days I used to have as much as 18 running, didn't have an IDE then
[14:01] <sayers> Or your a developer :)
[14:01] <Wander_w> yes, am an developer
[14:02] <Xplicit> the help for ntfs-3g is out dated, for 7.10 do i still install ntfs-3g and follow 7.04 instructions?
[14:02] <ace__> i think the only real thinkg keeping me in a window manager is firefox
[14:02] <|Z_E_R_O|> ola
[14:02] <Pici> Xplicit: ntfs-3g is already installed in 7.10
[14:03] <sayers> Wander_w, well I use ubuntu as my desktop nonstop and at most have like 3 tabs in a terminal open for server work
[14:03] <Wander_w> sayers: Well: to each his own style, but I've used all the terminals (9) at least once today
[14:04] <sayers> I use the terminal for SCP a lot
[14:04] <sayers> I don't trust nautilus for network copy files except for SAMBA
[14:04] <argie> Hello, does anyone here know what to do when your partition table is mashed by the Ubuntu installer?
[14:04] <pawan> google talk for ubuntu
[14:04] <rhetoric> sayers: pour some gravy on and get to eatin? sorry i couldnt help it
[14:05] <sayers> argie, that isn't very spacific?
[14:05] <Wander_w> 1 runs cocoon (a webserver-like program) 1 for top, then some general-use ones, mostly grepping and editing files
[14:05] <sayers> rhetoric, ?
[14:05] <rhetoric> sayers: sorry i meant argie :)
[14:05] <rhetoric> lol
[14:05] <earthling> pawan:if you have 7.10 you can use pidgin
[14:05] <sayers> Pidgin is great ;)
[14:06] <WorkingOnWis1> i have totally screwed up my gnome session somehow. If I log in to a gnome session, everything in the panels, and the panes themselves, crash, leaving me only the desktop, and alt-f2 to run apps. I can log into an E-Gnome session (gnome using enlightenment) and the default panels load and all is good. Whats the fastest way to get my regular Gnome defaults back?
[14:06] <Wander_w> WorkingOnWis1: delete the .gnome directory in your home directory?
[14:07] <argie> Here's the forum thread I posted in detail in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652020
[14:07] <argie> Basically, what happened is ubiquity crashed while partitioning and now both GParted and Ubiquity show the drive as unpartitioned. However fdisk reports that the partitions exist and that "Partition table entries are not in disk order". It also claims that "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite)".
[14:07] <rhetoric> so.. can anyone help with this horrible mess i made with NFS
[14:08] <argie> However, it's labelled 'Warning:' and I suppose I only have one shot at this so I'd like to know what I should do from someone who knows what it's about.
[14:08] <chazco> Hi... using the keyboard shortcuts tool I have setup my remote to work Totem... is there any way I can make it work on Kaffeine also (i think i need to find where the keyboard shortcut editor on the menu saves its commands)
[14:09] <Regel> chazco, infrared remote?
[14:09] <Wander_w> argie: I'd make a backup of your partition table; you should use dd for that like: dd if=/dev/hda of=~/my_partition_table_backup count=123   Lookup the correct way to do this
[14:09] <chazco> Regel - yep
[14:09] <Regel> chazco, try 'IRkick'
[14:10] <chazco> It acts like a keyboard, so I set the PLAY button to work as play/pause with the keyboard shortcuts (so no extra apps)... but it only works on Totem, not kaffeine
[14:10] <justbluemail> hi, when I try to set desktop effects from none no normal or extra I get this "Desktop effects could not be enabled". The desktop effects had worked already but they stop working ofter something I did ( I think it was when I was trying to run cs source with wine but not sure).  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:10] <herbalise> anybody used http://sadms.sourceforge.net to add ubuntu 7.10 to active directory domain?
[14:10] <wols_> justbluemail: what driver do you use?
[14:10] <Regel> chazco, it should give you something to configure with KDE programs such as amarok and kaffeine
[14:10] <argie> wander_w: Thank you. I'll do that now.
[14:11] <justbluemail> wols: I didn't installed any driver
[14:11] <Regel> chazco, it's in the package called kdelirc
[14:11] <fadey> Hi. I'm missing /dev/disk directory after the kernel update. Can't use new kernel. Does anyone know how I could fix that?
[14:11] <rhetoric> when i start gnome, in a default session or not (doesnt matter) my CPU goes crazy and i cant do anything/nothing loads. system load is through the roof.
[14:12] <|Z_E_R_O|> fadey:  maybe now that directory has another name
[14:12] <EtteSB> can you make a ubuntu liveCD without DLing something. IE can ubuntu make one by its self?
[14:12] <chazco> Regel - most of the IR apps dont work with it, since it pretends to be a keyboard... its like pressing the PLAY key on a multimedia keyboard... but since Kaffeine isnt installed by default it doesnt seem to work with the gnome keyboard shortcuts tool
[14:12] <axelor> Herbailise: do you have krb5 installed?
[14:12] <wols_> justbluemail: you did. no driver: no X. so what driver do you use?
[14:12] <rhetoric> i mounted an NFS share, changed its fstab entry, then tried to unmount. then i changed the entry back to how it was and tried to unmount again. system slowed to a crawl so i rebooted, now EVERY boot is like this. please help :(
[14:12] <Regel> chazco,  you should try to google for lirc configs for that remove
[14:13] <chazco> Regel - lirc doesnt work with it
[14:13] <argie> wander_w: Any idea how large the resulting backup should be? Mine happened extremely fast, and I don't trust it.
[14:13] <ifireball> rhetoric: I leave you for a couple of hours... :P
[14:13] <rhetoric> ifireball :(
[14:13] <justbluemail> wols: here it says ati mach 8,mach 32, mach 64 etc
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball im so screwed atm :( i changed the entry and tried to unmount without realizing what i was doing
[14:14] <Hippotamus> How do I mount an NTFS external hard drive (usb) on Ubuntu 64 7.10?
[14:14] <sjnims> anyone know the correct settings for sensors.conf to be used with lm-sensors on a winbond w83627ehf chip?
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball,
[14:14] <Regel> chazco, maybe there's a kde shortcut tool? =)
[14:14] <fadey> |Z_E_R_O|: /dev/disk/by-UUID is on that path. Now kernel can't find my root partition
[14:14] <wols_> justbluemail: what videocard do you have?
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball, now i cant even get in gnome for all intents and purposes
[14:14] <bazhang> Hippotamus: do you have the ntfs-3g package installed?
[14:14] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: just insert it, go to places -> computer and click on the item
[14:14] <justbluemail> wols: ati mobility radeon 9000
[14:14] <|Z_E_R_O|> fadey ... i don't know sorry
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball, the system load avg is 5.71 i can see my gnome panel heh
[14:14] <ifireball> rhetoric: doesn't sound NFS-related anyway, try commenting out the line in fstab and rebooting, the mounting thing shouldn't have such consequences
[14:15] <wols_> justbluemail: glxinfo |grep direct  output
[14:15] <EtteSB> hippotamus: stick it in the USB slot. should just work
[14:15] <EtteSB> can you make a ubuntu liveCD without DLing something. IE can ubuntu make one by its self?
[14:15] <Buyydee> bazhang: ntfs works out of the box on gutsy 64
[14:15] <rhetoric> ifireball, would a script running at startup with 2 blank lines at the end do it?
[14:15] <revilodraw> when viewing jpegs as a slideshow, each time it changes from one pic to the next, the screen flickers a bit crazy... any ideas how to stop this... apart from this, everything works perfectly
[14:15] <axelor> ette, the default download for 7.10 is a live AND install cd
[14:15] <Hippotamus> I get an error when I mount
[14:15] <ifireball> rhetoric: what script?
[14:15] <justbluemail> wols: what does that mean?
[14:15] <bazhang> Buyydee: nice to know! thanks
[14:16] <rhetoric> ifireball, the only other thing i did was edit my start-compiz script and i left a blank line or two at the bottom maybe
[14:16] <|Z_E_R_O|> i have a problem with my reflex. i'm trying to import images in unbuntu but i can't open them because ubuntu don't know file type. from terminal i typed "file 001.jpg" and it returned "empty" what can i do?
[14:16] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: what is the error? And do you mount it manually?
[14:16] <EtteSB> axelor: well i have ubuntu installed. and i no longer have the live CD that i installed with. im wanting to make another without downloading the install file again.
[14:16] <rhetoric> ifireball, if i run top from a terminal (ctrl-alt-fkey) i can see "apport" taking ~5% CPU and it keeps dissapearing and reaapearing
[14:16] <ifireball> rhetoric: doesn't sound like the cause of the problem, but its easy to find out, disable compiz and see what happens...
[14:16] <wols_> justbluemail: it's a command to run
[14:16] <Hippotamus> Buyydee: wait a second, I'll write it down
[14:17] <boston`> good afternoon
[14:17] <revilodraw> ifireball; an easy way to disable compiz?
[14:17] <noor> I seem to be losing audio periodically.  A restart seems to fix it, but restarting ALSA doesn't.  This most recent time I was watching a two file movie and when it switched over to the second file the audio was no longer working! (this was in vlc and other programs like amarok had no sound)  The first time I noticed this problem was right after I installed the FF 3 beta yesterday...if that means anything.  Firefox was not running during any of
[14:17] <noor>  this recent stuff, however.
[14:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, but my CPU usage is shown at 70%+ constantly, and i cant load anything in gnome it's frozen pretty much
[14:17] <Buyydee> revilodraw: system, preferences, appearance, then at the rightmost tab switch details to low
[14:17] <Hippotamus> buyydee: Mount is denied because NTFS is in use.
[14:17] <Wander_w> rhetoric: try this command in a terminal and show me the results: ps -aeo stat,pid,fname | grep ^D
[14:18] <rhetoric> wander_w, 1 moment
[14:18] <revilodraw> buyydee; oh yeh lol thanks
[14:18] <justbluemail> wols_: I placed that on console and got -> grep: output: File or folder does not exist
[14:18] <ifireball> revilodraw: system->prefs->appearance->effects->set to none
[14:19] <rhetoric> Wander_w, that isnt returning anything
[14:19] <Wander_w> rhetoric: damn
[14:19] <ifireball> rhetoric: lets take this one step at a time, disable compiz and the line in fstab and reboot, see what happens
[14:19] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o force
[14:19] <rhetoric> ifireball, kk
[14:19] <noor> I guess for a specific question, how does one restart the audio stuff completely?
[14:20] <ifireball> rhetoric: also check diskspaces, see if you ran out somewhere
[14:20] <revilodraw> ifireball: ok, well my problem is definitely caused by compiz.... when im playing jpegs as a slideshow, when it changes slides/pics the screen flickers black squares...
[14:20] <ifireball> revilodraw: probably not enough screen memory, compiz has problems in that department
[14:21] <revilodraw> noor; i dont know, have u made sure u r using the right device?
[14:21] <kkouwe> i'm getting this error when i try 'apt-get -f install'
[14:21] <kkouwe> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:21] <kkouwe>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch4_amd64.deb
[14:21] <revilodraw> ifireball; its a pretty good/new laptop
[14:21] <Wander_w> noor: stop all applications using audio (including artsd and the like) then rmmod you sound card modules and modprobe them back in
[14:21] <Hippotamus> Buyydee: I also use the drive for my windows, and it's not mine (borrowed), so it needs to still run with Win XP
[14:22] <ifireball> revilodraw: that means nothing, where does is get its screen memory? does it has its own, does it share with RAM?
[14:22] <noor> revilodraw, well, everything has beening working fine for weeks and it was working then suddenly stopped working
[14:22] <rhetoric> ifireball, restarting now
[14:22] <snchrptr> does ubuntu have drivers for the asus eeePC?
[14:22] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: this command should not affect windows usage in any way
[14:22] <revilodraw> ifireball; lol dont know
[14:22] <Extracted> How do you register a nick ?
[14:22] <revilodraw> noor; i would try.... one sec
[14:22] <cuteharez> snchrptr which driver
[14:23] <Hippotamus> Buyydee: Ok, just wanted to be sure.
[14:23] <ifireball> revilodraw: might as well have only 128mb of it...
[14:23] <Extracted> How do you register your Nick ?
[14:23] <revilodraw> noor; system, preferences, sound, and make sure its the hda intel mixer
[14:23] <snchrptr> cuteharez: all of them? what i mean is has it been tested with the ePC. i'm sure it has specific drivers because of it's formfactor
[14:23] <wols_> justbluemail: glxinfo then
[14:23] <wols_> Extracted: /msg nickserv help
[14:23] <Extracted> ty
[14:23] <revilodraw> ifireball; i dont really understand sorry
[14:23] <TheEagle> join #python
[14:24] <Pici> !register > Extracted (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:24] <Blu3pr1nt> TheEagle: /join is the right command ^^
[14:24] <rhetoric> ifireball, removing the fstab entry seemed to fix it
[14:25] <rhetoric> ifireball, now the reason i changed the file in the first place... ok i had it mounted to a folder on my desktop
[14:25] <noor> revilodraw, which one?  Device: is SiS SI7012 (Alsa mixer)
[14:25] <ifireball> revilodraw: the amount of memory compiz needs = approx. sum of width*height of all open windows, that amounts to alot
[14:25] <revilodraw> noor; try the other one
[14:25] <melodosgr> do you guys know how do i change the color properties on gimp? i need a 14 color image to make my splashscreen..
[14:25] <rhetoric> ifireball, BUT when i mounted it, ANOTHER icon appears, both going to the share (very ugly)
[14:25] <kkouwe> help! apt-get -f install... isn't working, what to do now??
[14:25] <rhetoric> ifireball, so should i just mount it to like /media/box2 and then make a desktop shortcut?
[14:25] <cuteharez> snchrptr i'm sure there is just that you have to do some googling
[14:26] <axelor> kkouwe: what were u trying to install?
[14:26] <bazhang> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ melodosgr
[14:26] <noor> revilodraw, huh, yeah, switching to the other one gets it working!
[14:26] <kkouwe> axelor: i did a simple upgrade
[14:26] <revilodraw> noor; yay!!
[14:26] <axelor> dist-upgrade?
[14:26] <kkouwe> axelor: yes
[14:26] <revilodraw> noor and fireball; good night
[14:26]  * syc_ off, wassalamualaikum wr wb
[14:26] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, the slowness might be due to network timeouts, see if you didn't lose the static IP we made on reboot...
[14:27] <cuteharez> snchrptr isn't Eee PC a linux distro
[14:27] <ifireball> rhetoric: does it give you an icon when ts not mounted?
[14:27] <bazhang> cuteharez: join #eeepc
[14:27] <Wander_w> cuteharez: It's a version of Xandros Linux that the eeepc is using
[14:27] <axelor> kkouwe: what were u upgradeing from and what are u trying to upgrade to?
[14:28] <Arelis> is XGL safe to use?
[14:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, the directory has to exist for it to be mounted BUT it loads another icon when i mount it, although it just occured to me why... i forgot where the setting is though
[14:28] <snchrptr> cuteharez: yeah but it's watered down. i'm going to install ubuntu or xp on it. whichever i can get to work better. i havent figured a lot of ubutntu out and i'd like to use it. but it's so hard to find answers. :P i've got it installed on my work laptop now and it seems to be doing ok
[14:28] <kkouwe> axelor: http://paste.lisp.org/display/53160
[14:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, the setting to show things that get mounted (like cdrom) on the desktop is doing it
[14:28] <ifireball> rhetoric: the gnome slowness was probably due to nautilus doing wacky things with the fstab line... sometimes it tries to be _too_ friendly...
[14:28] <rhetoric> so yea i'll just mount it to like /media/box2
[14:28] <Wander_w> Please define "safe" Safe; it son't blow up the computer; safe; it'll work; safe; won't get an std from it
[14:28] <TheEagle> thanks Blu3pr1nt! but it was just a typing error :)
[14:29] <Blu3pr1nt> TheEagle: np ^^
[14:29] <rhetoric> ifireball, it was probably because i was missing an "&" after my last command in that start-compiz script, and had like 2 blank lines after
[14:29] <ifireball> rhetoric: I really don't see how the 2 things are related
[14:29] <rhetoric> ifireball, either way it's back to normal now
[14:30] <rhetoric> ifireball, and i figured out my other issue, THANK YOU so much you've helped me a ton today
[14:30] <ifireball> rhetoric: n/p
[14:30] <bazhang> snchrptr: www.eeeuser.com has the ubuntu answers
[14:30] <rhetoric> if you ever come to the Ohio State University area send me a PM (rhetoric) on ubuntu forums i owe ya a beer :)
[14:31] <ifireball> rhetoric: sure thing
[14:31] <snchrptr> bazhang: thanks!
[14:31] <bazhang> snchrptr: no worries :}
[14:31] <arvin_> Hi, can anybody help me?
[14:31] <rhetoric> ifireball, i figure to avoid the stupid ifup bug problem, i'll make my script like such: sudo ifdown, sudo ifup, mount
[14:31] <bazhang> ask away arvin_
[14:32] <arvin_> kk
[14:32] <pbx> HI all. Is there any way to get aptitude to be smarter/faster when checking for installed apps?  Running a few selective "install" (upgrade) commands in a row I feel like there are some missed caching opportunities there. Or are all the cool kids using something else now?  Anyway, an example: http://dpaste.com/29205/
[14:32] <arvin_> I've got some problems, I'm trying to play WC3
[14:32] <arvin_> But it's soo laggy
[14:32] <arvin_> With WIne (in ubuntu)
[14:32] <rhetoric> ifireball, it seems to work via ifup just not on networking startup :/
[14:32] <arvin_> My computer is very good
[14:32] <bazhang> arvin_: wow? or warcraft3 under wine? not sure what wc3 is
[14:33] <arvin_> Warcraft III
[14:33] <Proteus> so I'm seeing ata_aux in top but ubuntu still isn't mounting my external drive
[14:33] <ifireball> rhetoric: ugly as hell, but of it works...
[14:33] <Wander_w> pbx: I'm a cool kid and I'm using apt-get
[14:33] <rhetoric> ifireball, could i just remove the lines from /etc/network/interfaces and put it all in the script?
[14:34] <rhetoric> ifireball, since it's doing no good there anyways
[14:34] <JoeyV> Hello
[14:34] <rhetoric> ifireball, i could just script sudo ifconfig up options etc etc ya?
[14:34] <earthling> arvin_: how much RAM?
[14:34] <Proteus> I've tried switching drives in the enclosure but I'm still not getting anything automounted
[14:34] <ifireball> rhetoric: neah, better leave it there, don't make it uglier then it already is
[14:34] <bazhang> hi JoeyV
[14:34] <pbx> Wander_w, and is it faster than aptitude for stuff like that?
[14:34] <ifireball> rhetoric: maybe it'll start working at some future upgrade
[14:35] <rhetoric> ifireball, well i figure that will make it less ugly (everything in one script)
[14:35] <rhetoric> ifireball, good point
[14:35] <axelor> kkouwe: not had any experiance with the 64 stuff but doesnt ubuntu have its own libc6 for amd64?
[14:35] <axelor> why is it trying to grab a debian patched one?
[14:35] <Wander_w> pbx: tons faster
[14:35] <pbx> Hm.
[14:35] <arvin_> earthling: 1GB (well enough)
[14:36] <promag> after upgrading to gutsy my network is so slow! sometimes It takes 2/3 minutes to connect to remote hosts. I've seen several posts about ipv6 but none of the solutions work
[14:36] <promag> any thoughts?
[14:36] <JoeyV> question... I've searched high and low, but cant find the answer to it.
[14:36] <JoeyV> How can I change the resolution of the shell, as in, NOT inside of X, but rather if I hit ctrl+alt+F2.  When I do that t access the shell, the letters are giant, and I can't read anything past 7 lines because it is out of the view of my monitor
[14:36] <Proteus> could anyone help me with my mounting problems?
[14:36] <pbx> Wander_w, would switching from aptitude to apt-get on a working (but not mission-critical) machine be unwise?
[14:36] <rhetoric> Proteus, what kind of mounting problems? (that sounds so wrong)
[14:36] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  thats the 'console' and you can set the res at boot time, or use the fbset command to change it on the fly.
[14:36] <Wander_w> pbx: they work side by side without any problem
[14:37] <JoeyV> thanks Dr_willis
[14:37] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  but your issue sounds like the framebuffer is buggy yoy mayt want to disable it competely
[14:37] <earthling> arvin_: wc3 will lag a bit at 1 GB. have you tried after awitching your desktop appearence settings to minimum
[14:37] <JoeyV> how do I disable the framebuffer
[14:37] <Proteus> I'm trying to mount an external drive - which had previously worked fine - but now the magic smoke is gone and I'm suddenly unable to see the automounted partitions
[14:37] <Proteus> the enclosure is new
[14:37] <Wander_w> pbx: You'd see a lot more mission-critical machines using apt-get then aptitude
[14:37] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  the 'nofb' optin to the kernel will do that. edit the menu.lst file. read the comments. :)
[14:37] <axelor> kkouwe: paste me your sources.list
[14:38] <JoeyV> awesome thanksbrother
[14:38] <Oli``> Can anybody suggest a really pretty CPU-usage graphing tool?
[14:38] <rhetoric> Proteus, beyond my knowledge sorry
[14:38] <kkouwe> axelor: pm
[14:38] <Proteus> Oli``, conky
[14:39] <Weasel[DK]> Canonical made their own shutdown command so now i miss the -F option which forced a filesystem check at next boot. How to do that on a *ubuntu system ?
[14:39] <Dr_willis> conky is nice.. takes some tweaking to get it 'just right' :)
[14:40] <Proteus> once conky is all configured, it can look quite pretty
[14:40] <Proteus> and it's lightweight
[14:40] <Oli``> Proteus: I'm looking for something to take screenshots of, not nest it on the desktop. Something like the new KDE4 resource monitor would be cool
[14:40] <Pici> Weasel[DK]: `sudo touch /forcefsck` before you shutdown/reboot/whatever.
[14:40] <axelor> just whack it on pastebin again
[14:40] <Rufus_> how can i change the background image of the terminal? or make it transparent?
[14:40] <Proteus> Oli``, I have no idea
[14:41] <Dr_willis> of course ya got to wonnder what shutdown -F does.. does it touch that file then shutdown?
[14:41] <Rufus_> anyone know?
[14:41] <Dr_willis> Rufus_,  depens on which terminal. and if you are using compiz, and if you want TRUE transparency . or just seeing the wallpaper under neth
[14:41] <Rufus_> just see the wallpaper under it
[14:41] <earthling> Rufus_ : right click on the terminal and select "edit current profile"
[14:42] <Rufus_> thanks
[14:43] <EtteSB> !compiz > etteSB
[14:44] <Weasel[DK]> Pici, nice.. thank you
[14:45] <WinterWeaver> I cannot connect to my Router in Ubuntu, but I can do so in Windows.... can someone assist?
[14:45] <axelor> can try winter :)
[14:45] <WinterWeaver> ^_^
[14:45] <promag> after upgrading to gutsy my network is so slow! sometimes It takes 2/3 minutes to connect to remote hosts. I've seen several posts about ipv6 but none of the solutions work... need help :(
[14:45] <Wander_w> disable ipv6?
[14:46] <promag> how do I do that?
[14:46] <Pici> !ipv6 | promag
[14:46] <ubotu> promag: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[14:46] <Hippotamus> I'm having problems with burning an ISO with Ubuntu
[14:46] <axelor> winter, do you have any network funtionailty at all?
[14:46] <Wander_w> promag: My solution would be to recompile the kernel.... but that's just me
[14:46] <Wander_w> promag: oh, listen to pici
[14:47] <Hippotamus> I want to burn a DVD-image to a DVD-RW, but I get the error that it's not in ISO 9660 format
[14:47] <foo25> Hey, I've just restored my xorg.conf file after somehow messing it up completely, now when I log back in, Network Manager tells me "No network devices have been found" however I didn't think network devices were mentioned anywhere in the xorg.conf?
[14:47] <chazco> Hi... anyone here using Textmaker (paid version) - TM renders better than OO, but still formatting still doesnt match Word on windows. I'm guessing its font trouble... How can I fix it?
[14:48] <bazhang> Hippotamus: md5 matched?
[14:48] <|Z_E_R_O|> i can't set usb port from virtualbox to the xp virtual machine, do you know why?
[14:48] <Wander_w> foo25: I think you messed up more than just xorg.conf, by the sound of it
[14:48] <axelor> WinterWeaver: If the answer is no, Id like to see the result of an ifconfig in pastebin
[14:48] <Pici> |Z_E_R_O|: try asking in #vbox :)
[14:48] <|Z_E_R_O|> danke
[14:48] <WinterWeaver> axelor, yes... and ... no... :( ... tbh ... I dont even knows whats up with my network. I am able to browse the internet flawlessly, but I am unable usually to connect or even see other computers on the network (that's a topic for another day tho)
[14:48] <JoeyV> Dr_willis, will adding the nofb option affect anything while X.org is running?
[14:48] <Hippotamus> bazhang: yes
[14:48] <foo25> Wander_w: The only files I edited were host, aliases, and xorg, but I restored those all to their previous state
[14:49] <chazco> |Z_E_R_O| - Are you using the OSE version from the repos? If so then it doesnt have USB forwarding
[14:49] <Pici> chazco: /me makes a note of that
[14:49] <bazhang> Hippotamus: that is odd.. using what to burn it? cd/dvd creator or other
[14:49] <axelor> what happens when you try to hit the router management page in your browser?
[14:49] <|Z_E_R_O|> chazco:  yes, what can i do?
[14:49] <WinterWeaver> !pastebin
[14:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:50] <foo25> Wander_w: However, I think there may be something else, because all of a sudden I also cannot open my power options
[14:50] <JoeyV> Anyony who knows: will adding the nofb option at boot affect the graphics while X is running?
[14:50] <chazco> |Z_E_R_O| - You can download the full version from their website... its not open-source, but if thats not an issue then it works fine
[14:50] <Hippotamus> cd/dvd creator
[14:50] <|Z_E_R_O|> ok thanks
[14:50] <Wander_w> foo25: maybe your modules went missing
[14:50] <chazco> np, it got me too when i first tried it :)
[14:51] <Pici> JoeyV: No, no changes to xorg.conf will have any effect while xorg is still running.
[14:51] <Wander_w> JoeyV: No, it will only affect stuff AFTER you do a reboot
[14:51] <foo25> Wander_w: How would that even happen though? =S Is there any way of restoring them?
[14:51] <JoeyV> I know
[14:51] <JoeyV> but what will the affect be, is my question
[14:52] <Xplicit> i want to connect to the ares network, is there any tool in repos to do this or should i use gift and compile the plugin?
[14:52] <JoeyV> guess I'll find out in a few minutes
[14:52] <JoeyV> :)
[14:52] <uberProSkiddie> hey :) problem: i got a working ubuntu on my laptop (Toshiba satellite L30-105) with installed sound drivers.. that doesnt work. I have no idear what soundcard i got (no info in specs, only that is 24bit) and ubuntu doesnt whine, it does plat files but the speakers remain silent. i got ubuntu 7.10.
[14:52] <dejand3> i cant enable sound in my ubuntu, what to do, please help
[14:53] <Pici> !sound | dejand3 uberProSkiddie
[14:53] <ubotu> dejand3 uberProSkiddie: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:53] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  the framebuffer is (should be) totally unlreated to X.
[14:53] <Wander_w> foo25: well, assuming they really are gone, either apt-get install --reinstall linux-image or recompile and install the modules if you compiled your kernel by hand
[14:53] <Wander_w> foo25: but please check if there are any modules listed in the output of the command "lsmod"
[14:53] <tomahasamoot> I just reinstalled kubuntu 7.10 alt amd64, and apt-get isn't working
[14:53] <Xplicit> uberProSkiddie: does your jack word? (e.g plugin headphones in)
[14:54] <tomahasamoot> I also can't enable the nvidia driver
[14:54] <JoeyV> thanks again Doc
[14:54] <tomahasamoot> it's like it doesn't know where to get the packages
[14:55] <foo25> Wander_w: There is quite a large output of modules, including ndiswrapper which I used for my wireless drivers
[14:55] <uberProSkiddie> no :/
[14:55] <WinterWeaver> axelor, when I try to access the router page in firefox, or any browser (even IE4Linux), it will ask for the password... after I entered... it will start loading, but never finishes... sometimes it will load half the page, but it never finishes
[14:55] <Wander_w> foo25: ah, then your modules should be ok