[08:30] <lunitik> 4.0*
[08:30] <lunitik> inashdeen: 4.0 isn't in any released version of Ubuntu though
[08:31] <inashdeen> how can I do that? by the way , is there a way to put a shortcut to app on the upper bar of dash?
[08:31] <Amelia28> my decyption programs have stopped working and I think is a change in my system causing but dont know  what
[08:31] <Amelia28> I cant even create a key
[08:31] <NotSoGood> Wish id thought about the need for acceleration when i bought gfx cards last time... then i'd just get a bunch of cheap ones.... last time i set up multiseat acceleration was not a big deal for desktop....
[08:32] <Amelia28> is like something is blocking Kleopatra from working
[08:32] <lunitik> inashdeen: will be able to do something like this: http://m.h-online.com/resize/zoom/imgs/43/9/6/9/6/6/8/libreoffice-personas-79a1b8189f65c7ee.png
[08:32] <lunitik> Still not that much of a diff though
[08:32] <NotSoGood> But now it seems even scrolling in the fking browser is depending on gpu acceleration.... what has the world come to
[08:32] <lunitik> NotSoGood: can be turned off  :/
[08:32] <inashdeen> that is basically what I need? :) how to do it lunitik:
[08:33] <NotSoGood> Lunar_Lamp,
[08:33] <lunitik> NotSoGood: Why have the CPU do anything pertaining to graphics?
[08:33] <ikonia> NotSoGood: tone down the language please, removing a letter is not acceptable
[08:33] <lunitik> inashdeen: like I said, it isn't in a released Ubuntu, you need to find a PPA with libreoffice 4.0 if you absolutely can't do without
[08:34] <lunitik> NotSoGood: CPU is optimized for computation, GPU is optimized for displaying the result... you want the wrong tool to do the job, when the rest of the world understands what the right tool is.
[08:35] <inashdeen> lunitik: i am downloading one now though http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?nodetect
[08:35] <z3n0ps> \m/
[08:35] <ikonia> inashdeen: is that meant for the ubuntu version you are using ?
[08:35] <dreki> lunitik: It isn't. I ran that graphics benchmarking while I had nvidia-settings open and i could see vram usage was around 700mb. So I guess you were correct, the drivers are managing it without letting the kernel in on it.
[08:36] <lunitik> inashdeen: Could have just used this: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases but whatever
[08:36] <inashdeen> ikonia: it does says .deb, I assume its for ubuntu.
[08:36] <ikonia> inashdeen: then you assume wrong
[08:36] <ikonia> inashdeen: deb is a package format, nothing more
[08:36] <dreki> lunitik: thank you for helping me.
[08:36] <lunitik> dreki: proprietary drivers are neat
[08:36] <inashdeen> ikonia: well, i will run it first, and see how it goes, if the installation is all well, i will tell ya :)
[08:37] <lunitik> inashdeen: Please just do what my link says
[08:37] <ikonia> inashdeen: yeah, why not use a proper version, better to install something random that may wreck your machine then try to fix it, instead of doing it right first time
[08:38] <lunitik> inashdeen: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-prereleases && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:38] <Sayed> hiii
[08:38] <dreki> lunitik: also can you explain why "optirun nvidia-settings -c :8" worked to pull up nvidia-settings and "optirun nvidia-settings" did not? Particularly, what did the :8 part of that command do?
[08:38] <Sayed> anyone there???
[08:39] <ikonia> Sayed: more than 1600 people
[08:39] <lunitik> dreki: I cannot, sorry
[08:39] <JamieThTpwrm> 1688 of us are actually watching every word you say sayed ;)
[08:39] <dreki> lunitik thanks anyway
[08:40] <lunitik> JamieThTpwrm: eh, at most 20 are actually looking
[08:40] <Sayed> just installing Ubantu 10.4 server could u pls tell me which file system i use after creating parttion???? pls help
[08:40] <Sayed> just installing Ubantu 10.4 server could u pls tell me which file system i use after creating parttion???? pls help
[08:40] <ikonia> Sayed: it's up to you, the default is ext4
[08:40] <lunitik> I don't even remember what ext4 was like back then
[08:40] <ikonia> Sayed: you only have to type it once, the OS is called "ubuntu"
[08:40] <ikonia> lunitik: it was fine
[08:40] <JamieThTpwrm> a linux advocate geek i liked once berated me a bit for suggesting cpu operations get offloaded onto graphics cards--wasn't someone seeing the future of supercomputing at the time apparently :)
[08:40] <kgalahassa> someone can give latex chanel?
[08:40] <Sayed> but after selecting ext 4 itz not continuing?
[08:41] <ikonia> kgalahassa: we are not a yellow pages of channel
[08:41] <lurkki_> Sayed member to do swap..at leat 500mb
[08:41] <Sayed> i m giving 250 gb
[08:41] <kgalahassa> join #latex
[08:41] <inashdeen> ok thanks, is using ppa now. another thing is, is there a way to put a shortcut app on the upper bar of dash?
[08:41] <lunitik> JamieThTpwrm: It isn't even the future of supercomputing... supercomputers already use GPU's for physics simulations as long as I've been alive
[08:41] <lunitik> JamieThTpwrm: I'm 28
[08:41] <ikonia> Sayed: what tool are you using to partition it ?
[08:42] <ikonia> Sayed: actually read through this document
[08:42] <Sayed> i m using ubantu 10.4 server fresh installation disk
[08:42] <ikonia> !install | Sayed
[08:42] <ikonia> Sayed: it's called "Ubuntu" - not "ubantu"
[08:42] <Sayed> kk
[08:43] <the_dark_knight> Hi, how do I use github from command line like subversion? please help. google-search doesn't help.
[08:43] <Sayed> ubantu fresh installation after giving partrion space 250 gb for installing not procedding???
[08:43] <ikonia> the_dark_knight: it's just "git"
[08:43] <JamieThTpwrm> lunitik, it was the future back then--which they simply didn't see.  views of optimal uses for buses, processing units, and other components of architecture, sometimes evolve or otherwise change over time
[08:43] <ikonia> Sayed: read the document ubottu just gave you about how to install
[08:44] <ikonia> Sayed: it's probable you've not setup the partitions correctly
[08:44] <the_dark_knight> ikonia: hey thanks. I got it - http://www.vogella.com/articles/Git/article.html
[08:44] <ikonia> Sayed: and for the last time - it's called "Ubuntu" - not "ubantu"
[08:44] <ikonia> the_dark_knight: bravo
[08:44] <Sayed> i had divided partion in 2 equal spaces 250 for C 250 for D
[08:45] <ikonia> Sayed: there isn't a "C" and a "D" drive in ubuntu, thats why I'm telling you to read the install document
[08:46] <kgalahassa> what difference ext3 and ext4
[08:46] <ikonia> kgalahassa: later version more features.
[08:46] <Sayed> anyone ther??
[08:47] <ikonia> Sayed: yes, as you've been told
[08:47] <kgalahassa> ikonia, which is later version?
[08:48] <ikonia> kgalahassa: think about it, which one has the bigger number
[08:48] <ikonia> kgalahassa: which came first 3 or 4
[08:48] <RevBuddha> test
[08:49] <kgalahassa> ikonia,ok
[08:50] <Sayed> after detacting disk tell me the exact method how to create partion plz help coz dis is my first time
[08:50] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. go with the defaults ;)
[08:50] <ikonia> Sayed: READ the document you've been given
[08:50] <dr_willis> sayed #1 thing to do while reading.. would be make a backup in case the system breaks during the install
[08:51] <dr_willis> for windows.. i would be sure to have a dvd-recovery disk set made.. and backups of any imporntant user files
[08:51] <Sayed> i am installing using CD Ubuntu 10.04 server edition not able to find details itz showing of USB help
[08:51] <dr_willis> Sayed:  why are you using the server edition?
[08:51] <Ben64> why 10.04 too
[08:51] <dr_willis> Sayed:  if you want to play with the server.. id run it in virtualbox to leran how things work
[08:52] <c|oneman> I just got a vps, I can choose from several versions of ubuntu... is there any reason I'd not want the lastest 12.10... and instead would want 11.10?
[08:52] <ikonia> I give in, this is pointless, Sayed if you won't listen, you will fail
[08:52] <Sayed> coz we r deploying database software on it
[08:52] <RevBuddha> Oh god if this is your first time and you've also got a windows partition on there, you may want to download a virtual machine software like VirtualBox and to some virtual installs and play with Unix before you stick it on a partition of your hDD
[08:52] <RevBuddha> just sayin
[08:52] <ikonia> Sayed: use the desktop version - it has a gui
[08:52] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  i used 12.10 onmy DigitalOcean VPS ;)
[08:52] <dryhay> hi. sometimes my ibus stops working. why it stops? how to call it back? ubuntu forums related thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116673
[08:52] <Ben64> c|oneman: you should choose between 12.04 and 12.10 depending on how new you want all the software
[08:52] <c|oneman> so theres no real reason to install old versions? I thought lots of linux people did this
[08:53] <doomlord> can ubuntu's default windowmanager do transparent titlebars (but opaque title text)
[08:53] <Ben64> c|oneman: 12.04 is LTS - long term support - could be good for servers
[08:53] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  if you got some legacy app that requires an old version.. perhaps.
[08:53] <Sayed> last time we installed but our main team member is not present itz on prority need to install server version
[08:53] <ikonia> Sayed: use the desktop version - it has a gui
[08:53] <c|oneman> are new versions significantly more bloated?
[08:53] <ikonia> c|oneman: no
[08:53] <Sayed> could u provide me url to download
[08:54] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  for a server install? no.
[08:54] <ikonia> Sayed: wwww.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <c|oneman> I'm gonna install GUI as well/
[08:54] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  and how to youplan on using the gui?
[08:54] <Capprentice> Is it possible to remove all various session entries (desktop env. s) from the login section ? I dont use them but they are needed for various applications. I only want to remove the entries.
[08:54] <Ben64> usually vps's come preinstalled
[08:55] <c|oneman> well, mostly I won't, it probably won't be started half the time. Does the GUI need to be running to run VirtualBox?
[08:55] <Sayed> which version u reccomond
[08:55] <dr_willis> Sayed:  12.04 or 12.10
[08:55] <ikonia> hang on
[08:55] <dr_willis> Sayed:  depending on how new your hardware is
[08:55] <ikonia> we don't know his software requirements
[08:55] <Ben64> c|oneman: virtualbox works on command line, but it requires a lot of reading of the manual
[08:55] <ikonia> if he was told to install 10.04 - he made need 10.04
[08:55] <dr_willis> i dont think he knows his requirements either
[08:55] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:55] <ikonia> Sayed: speak to your support guy who installed the last one - and ask him
[08:56] <Sayed> is it possible to deploy file server on desktop flavour???
[08:56] <dr_willis> Sayed:  install a service.. you got a server
[08:56] <ikonia> yes
[08:56] <dr_willis> desktop or server edition.. dosent matter
[08:56] <Capprentice> Sayed, this is not recomemded as GUI apps tends to crash.
[08:56] <ikonia> c|oneman: that is nonsense
[08:56] <ikonia> c|oneman: sorry not you
[08:56] <ikonia> Capprentice: that is utter nonsense
[08:56] <ikonia> Sayed: running a file server on a desktop install will be fine
[08:56] <Capprentice> nah ! i have seen it.
[08:57] <dr_willis> I set up my xbmc video player box as a file server..
[08:57] <Sayed> kk
[08:57] <Ben64> !fud
[08:57] <ikonia> Capprentice: then you are wrong
[08:57] <Sayed> itz not free available
[08:58] <ikonia> Sayed: it is
[08:58] <Capprentice> Hey I dont know what you used but I have tried deploying MySQL and APACHE on my class lab. That completely crashed the whole system many times. Some time it kicked me off to the logon screen
[08:58] <ikonia> Sayed: if you can't download the install file - I strongly suggest you just wait for the experienced guy
[08:58] <Sayed> itz giving me payment option provide me exact link dear
[08:59] <ikonia> Capprentice: 1.) you don't know - so you're just amking stuff up 2.) you don't know why - so you're just assuming 3.) you made a general statment "the gui crashes so a file system server won't work" that is just fantasy
[08:59] <ikonia> Capprentice: your personal experience of your lab does not men that is fact for the world
[08:59] <ikonia> Capprentice: the fact that you don't know what you used shows what a foolish general statement that is to make
[08:59] <Capprentice> yes thats true. I agree. That may be only me.
[08:59] <ikonia> Sayed: you don't have to donate
[08:59] <Sayed> kk i got it thankzz
[08:59] <lunitik> Capprentice: With what you've shared, it is impossible to troubleshoot
[09:00] <lunitik> Capprentice: also, apache and mysql are supposed to run in the background, they are not interactive applications and so would throw you to the terminal
[09:01] <c|oneman> what is the disavantage of having LTS, with the exception that new versions of LTS are released less frequently?
[09:02] <Sayed> thankzz for your help Ikonia :)
[09:03] <Ben64> c|oneman: a bit older versions of some things, for example on 12.04 imagemagick is 8:<IP_ADDRESS>-5, on 13.04 it is 8:<IP_ADDRESS>-5
[09:03] <dr_willis> Older software
[09:03] <Ben64> i like it because you don't have to upgrade every 6 months
[09:04] <c|oneman> can 12.04 LTS have older software than 11.10?
[09:04] <Ben64> no
[09:04] <c|oneman> can the apt-get repos be different/older than 11.10?
[09:05] <Ben64> 12.04 is newer than 11.10, theres nothing different about lts versions, except they're supported for 5 years
[09:05] <lunitik> c|oneman: You should always use the things packaged for your release version
[09:06] <Amelia28> March 14 ubuntu 13.04 beta1 was released and I think this is why kleopatra stopped working for me..........Do you guys know if there is a way for rolling back to previous version?? Thanks in advance
[09:06] <maxb> The LTS releases do not exist outside of the flow of normal releases, they are just a subset of normal releases picked to have longer support, and between which upgrading is supported
[09:06] <c|oneman> will there be less things packaged for LTS?
[09:06] <lunitik> Amelia28: Ubuntu implements nothing of the sort... BTRFS or LFS can do it, but Ubuntu has no tools to keep track of it
[09:06] <lunitik> c|oneman: no
[09:07] <z3n0ps> People , i get this error "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[09:07] <lunitik> c|oneman: LTS is a what the regular releases are ramping up for, 2 year super-cadence within the 6 month ordinary cadence to deliver things for consumers and business.
[09:07] <lunitik> z3n0ps: wait like a minute and try again
[09:07] <snowrichard> i'm using 12.04 lts
[09:08] <lunitik> snowrichard: cool
[09:08] <snowrichard> it worked better with my radeon video/hdmi sound problem in 12.10
[09:08] <c|oneman> basically I just want the "best" / "easiest" version for a linux noob. I don't want to end up reading a tutorial and then halfway "this wont work if you have LTS"
[09:08] <auronandace> z3n0ps: do you have 2 package managers open?
[09:08] <Amelia28> Does anyone know know if there is a way to roll back from ubuntu 13.04beta1 to previous version???
[09:08] <snowrichard> http://mypals2.com
[09:08] <maxb> Amelia28: No, it is not possible.
[09:08] <z3n0ps> *auronandace* , no
[09:09] <lunitik> Amelia28: I just answered that question  :/
[09:09] <maxb> Amelia28: Also pre-release conversations generally happen in #ubuntu+1 rather than #ubuntu
[09:09] <Amelia28> my bad thanks to you both :)
[09:09] <lunitik> auronandace: please leave him be.
[09:09] <Ben64> c|oneman: that won't happen, at least until the next LTS comes out
[09:09] <lunitik> z3n0ps: try again now
[09:09] <snowrichard> I'm getting a static IP Monday morning my cable internet provider said I can run server ok with it
[09:09] <c|oneman> at which point I can most likely easily upgrade to the next LTS version?
[09:09] <lunitik> c|oneman: ues
[09:09] <lunitik> yes
[09:10] <snowrichard> I'm starting web design consultant biz got 1 customer today, and another lady wants to develop game online site
[09:10] <auronandace> z3n0ps: synaptic, software centre and apt-get in a terminal should not be run at the same time
[09:10] <z3n0ps> auronandance : i have software center open
[09:10] <lunitik> auronandace: please stop, there is nothing good he can do about it... if you really want him to find out what is using it, lsof /var/lib/dpkg/* will tell us, but it does us no good.
[09:11] <lunitik> (actually lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock )
[09:11] <snowrichard> if you got a stale lock you can reboot and run just the 1 pkg man.
[09:12] <tom_> yay! i managed to get all four screens at least responding, although the 2 running off video card #2 have an X cursor and nothing on them (no wallpaper, WM bar etc)
[09:12] <lunitik> snowrichard: or you can kill the process accessing the file
[09:12] <snowrichard> yeah right
[09:12] <e11bits> is there some alternative for xmotd that integrates well with unity?
[09:12] <auronandace> z3n0ps: and what are you trying to do?
[09:12] <snowrichard> well i need to install a php ide.  bbl
[09:14] <tom_> if i had a separate x session started on a different graphics card, how could i verify that? is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up a terminal?
[09:14] <Sayed> i wnt help on ubuntu 10.4 server edition coz wanted to install server version only only thing problem while creating partion
[09:14] <tom_> all i have right now is a black wallpaper and an X cursor
[09:15] <z3n0ps> auronandace, I am installing Mysql client
[09:15] <Sayed> is anyone there??
[09:15] <lunitik> z3n0ps: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:15] <lunitik> z3n0ps: With something accessing that, you can't use something else related to packaging
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: so apt-get will not work with Software Center running or vice versa
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: close one to use the other
[09:16] <z3n0ps> lunitik,  that worked !
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: It would do
[09:16] <z3n0ps> lunitik, thanks !
[09:16] <auronandace> lunitik: that is what i originally told him
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: It is there to ensure apt doesn't get confused
[09:17] <inashdeen> hi, I am using ubuntu 12.04 and i frequently uses chat on by samsung, now that have a mobile app. is there a way for me to intergrate in ubuntu 12.04? or is it possible in 12.10? how cani do it?
[09:17] <Sayed> i wnt help on ubuntu 10.4 server edition coz wanted to install server version only only thing problem while creating partiotion
[09:17] <lunitik> inashdeen: what protocols is the chat app using?
[09:18] <Sayed> any1 there plz help
[09:18] <lunitik> Sayed: You will have to tell us more about the partitioning issue
[09:18] <Ben64> Sayed: you've been given the answer many many times
[09:18] <inashdeen> lunitik : how do i check it?
[09:18] <z3n0ps> I have wifi 2 installed but ubuntu doesn't show it.I tried "lspci" , it showed me this " Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)"
[09:18] <maxb> Sayed: It would seem unwise to install 10.04, when 12.04 is the current LTS
[09:18] <lunitik> inashdeen: Chances are Empathy supports them, but how to find out?
[09:18] <auronandace> !b43 | z3n0ps
[09:18] <lunitik> inashdeen: Are you using Facebook and Google plus, common things like this? What services or what app are you using?
[09:18] <Sayed> infact i want install ubuntu 10.4 server edition after creating partition space which file system need to give
[09:19] <lunitik> Sayed: The installer should assist you in resizing the partition
[09:19] <Ben64> !install | Sayed
[09:19] <Amelia28> that room has no activity
[09:19] <smartracer> hey i need a help
[09:19] <Sayed> but after giving 50% partition to c itz not contuining
[09:20] <lunitik> Sayed: What does it say?
[09:20] <Ben64> Sayed: you need to read the links you're given
[09:20] <inashdeen> I dont really chat on facebook, nor on g+. i just browse on the browser. skype shows notification, so does emails, dropbox, google drive ( insync). I created a web app for chat on using chrome, but it does not show notification
[09:20] <Sayed> asking for file system
[09:20] <Ben64> Sayed: and again, there is no "c" drive
[09:20] <Sayed> kk
[09:20] <lunitik> !ask | smartracer
[09:20] <Sayed> asking for file system
[09:20] <lunitik> Ben64: He is using c to say see
[09:20] <smartracer> i need to practice tail in my typing proogram how can i do that?
[09:21] <lunitik> Ben64: wait, I think you're right, I read it different
[09:21] <smartracer> i need to practice tamil in my typing proogram how can i do that?
[09:21] <Sayed> which file system ext3 4 or fat & how to create it
[09:21] <lunitik> smartracer: What typing program?
[09:21] <lunitik> Sayed: ext4... by selecting it in the installer
[09:21] <smartracer> any typing master program
[09:22] <Sayed> after selecting ext 4 itz not proceeding after creation of partition which step i need to use grab loader?
[09:22] <lunitik> smartracer: KTouch will do Tamil, its interface just got revamped too
[09:23] <lunitik> Sayed: I don't think the Ubuntu installer actually asks you about GRUB
[09:23] <smartracer> ok thanks lunitik
[09:23] <azi`> hello! i am trying to install flash plugin from the command line and apt-get fails while trying to download adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>5.orig.tar.gz
[09:23] <Sayed> after selecting ext 4 itz not proceeding after creation of partition which step i need to use
[09:23] <azi`> saying it cannot download it
[09:23] <azi`> this happened after the new update broke flash
[09:23] <azi`> is there a way to fix it?
[09:23] <Ben64> Sayed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:24] <azi`> it says the network is unreachable
[09:24] <lunitik> smartracer: Uhh, you won't actually get the new interface in the released Ubuntu... looks like this though now: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.10/screenshots/jpg/ktouch.jpg
[09:25] <c|oneman> whats this: /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index --force --quiet
[09:25] <smartracer> oh sad
[09:26] <smartracer> hey lunitik  i have another doubt
[09:26] <lunitik> c|oneman: update-apt-xapian-index is a python program which keeps track of the apt archives... --force --quiet is ignoring errors and running in the background
[09:26] <c|oneman> did it launch because I recently did an apt-get update
[09:27] <lunitik> c|oneman: probably, yes
[09:27] <smartracer> i want to install cinnamon in my ubuntu.after that how can i replace that with unity? reinstalling unity?
[09:27] <lunitik> smartracer: At the login screen, there is a "sessions" menu, choose it there
[09:29] <lunitik> smartracer: it will be something like this: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/unity%20greeter%20transparent%20panel%20oneiric.png  (the cog always means config)
[09:29] <lunitik> smartracer: Cinnamon and Unity will be in that menu rather than the stuff he has
[09:29] <smartracer> oh ok ok
[09:30] <Sayed> fresh installation of Ubuntu 10.4 server i had selected step of guided installation & given disk space 250GB out of 500 gb is it ok plz help need suggestion
[09:30] <Sayed> fresh installation of Ubuntu 10.4 server i had selected step of guided installation & given disk space 250GB out of 500 gb is it ok plz help need suggestion????
[09:30] <lunitik> Sayed: If that is what you want it is fine...
[09:30] <pingvin> hi i just found /sbin/mount.cifs being setuid root  ( -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root ..). Is that a problem?
[09:31] <Marek_> guys is anything wrong with using gui on ubuntu server edition in produciton if I am not used to command lina that much
[09:31] <bentinata> anyone here know google+ verification number?
[09:31] <Sayed> my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??/
[09:31] <bentinata> something like 32555, or 32525, or something?
[09:31] <azi`> this happened after the new update broke flash
[09:31] <Sayed>  my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??
[09:31] <azi`> hello! i am trying to install flash plugin from the command line and apt-get fails while trying to download adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>5.orig.tar.gz
[09:31] <Sayed>  my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??
[09:31] <smartracer> thanks to all
[09:31] <lunitik> Marek_: I am not sure how useful it'll be, but sure
[09:32] <lunitik> Sayed: It will not
[09:32] <Sayed>  my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??
[09:32] <lunitik> !repeat | Sayad
[09:32] <Marek_> lunitik: i guiess it make it easier for me becauise I am not used to linux that much yet
[09:32] <Ben64> Sayed: you don't need to repeat yourself. you've been told how to install many times. either read the documentation, or wait for the expert to come in and install ubuntu for you
[09:32] <bentinata> lunitik: It's Sayed. xD
[09:32] <lunitik> Marek_: There aren't really many frontends to servers though, other than web-based which you can access from other systems
[09:33] <lunitik> bentinata: umm, oops
[09:33] <lunitik> !repeat | Sayed
[09:33] <bentinata> So, this guy named Sayed try to install ubuntu?
[09:33] <bentinata> Can I help?
[09:34] <lunitik> bentinata: He is basically wanting hand holding, just needs reassurance mostly, he basically knows what he's doing but isn't confident
[09:34] <llutz> pingvin: no, its the default and needed to let users mount windows-shares (see "man mount.cifs" the "Notes")
[09:35] <bentinata> lunitik: oh, like all my friend that install ubuntu for first time.
[09:35] <pingvin> llutz: ok ty
[09:35] <Sayed> hey if guided partition is taking 250gb out of 500gb so i want to use remaining 250 gb to save my data how i will use n how to configure partion as a data storage of 250 gb @ lunitik
[09:36] <bentinata> Sayed: Did you have data on your 500gb partition right now?
[09:36] <bentinata> Sayed: if yes, then I suggest you to spare jsut 20gb for ubuntu.
[09:37] <lunitik> Sayed: Personally, I would just partition with 50 GB for / and the rest for /home, can then put data storage on /home and use it for your personal files... Ubuntu only takes a bit under 6 gigs by itself fully installed
[09:38] <Sayed> out of 500 gb i had provided 250 gb for suggested partition so wt abt data storing?
[09:38] <lunitik> Sayed: What bentinata said would also be plenty, depending on if this is actually a dual boot (I figured it was because you're trying to divide the drive in two, figured to preserve something)
[09:38] <lunitik> Sayed: You can format and mount the extra 250 GB later if you're not sure
[09:39] <Sayed> i already given 250 gb in guided partition
[09:39] <Sayed> installation is going on
[09:39] <bentinata> Sayed: Whoaaa. Do you know what partition it is?
[09:39] <lunitik> Sayed: That will be for your personal files and the system itself... right now it is doing nothing with half your drive, but you can divide it out and mount it where needed later
[09:40] <bentinata> I prefer gparted.
[09:40] <bentinata> So, does anyone here knows the google number for gmail verification?
[09:40] <Sayed> but HDD of 500 gb rest it want take for home
[09:41] <c|oneman> I'm only getting 700kB/s from archive.ubuntu.com ... do I need to pick a closer server?
[09:41] <lunitik> c|oneman: You don't need to, but that is pretty slow... do you really need to ask that though?
[09:42] <c|oneman> well, I didn't mean "need".  Should I, would be more accurate
[09:42] <theadmin> c|oneman: Yes, pick a mirror. The main server may have speed limits, actually, I'm not sure.
[09:42] <Nahita> guys, could anyone here help me with SSH?
[09:42] <Sayed>  but HDD of 500 gb rest it want take for home
[09:42] <Ben64> 700KB/s is slow now?
[09:42] <lunitik> c|oneman: depends on the connection you have... I download from us.archive.ubuntu.com at closer to 8mb/s
[09:43] <theadmin> Ben64: :P
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> Nahita  start with a question
[09:43] <Ben64> i remember when 7K/s was insanely fast
[09:43] <c|oneman> that was never insanely fast :P
[09:43] <lunitik> Ben64: same, so long as it was over 5 kb, I was happy
[09:44] <lunitik> Now I stop any dowload that goes below 1mb/s even if it's almost done
[09:44] <c|oneman> lol
[09:44] <Nahita> MonkeyDust: hehe, i just saw my mistake...  thnx  :D
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> Nahita  glad I could help :-)
[09:45] <bentinata> Ben64: Haha. True.
[09:45] <galaxys4> say no to fake fiber
[09:46] <bentinata> c|oneman: you can pick suggested server in the software sources.
[09:47] <c|oneman> if I install ubuntu-desktop will it autostart in desktop?
[09:49] <MorpheusXNL> goodmorning all
[09:49] <bentinata> MorpheusXNL: Its 5pm in Indonesia. :)
[09:50] <galaxys4> go party in the bali island
[09:51] <MorpheusXNL> just returned to good oll xfce. any tips ans what to install as extra
[09:52] <SuperMan> ?
[09:53] <galaxys4> xfce doesn't look like before
[09:54] <MorpheusXNL> bentinata, here it is 10 am in the morning
[09:54] <MorpheusXNL> galaxys4, what do you mean?
[09:56] <termospullo> hey guys
[09:57] <termospullo> I a unable to install updates for some reason
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> MorpheusXNL  http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-xubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal
[09:58] <MorpheusXNL> thankx MonkeyDust
[10:00] <tokern3> hi.is someone familiar with proxychains? i want to use socks i have user and pass and address and port number.in windows i used proxifire. what should i do in linux?
[10:03] <Roy1364> e
[10:03] <Roy1364> im booy
[10:03] <Roy1364> boot
[10:03] <tozen> Roy1394:boot?? ;D
[10:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> tokern, to set a system proxy? it's available under preferences in the menu, or you can manually edit the file /etc/environment
[10:07] <termospullo> I'm unable to install updates or anything from ubuntu software center
[10:07] <theadmin> termospullo: What Ubuntu version?
[10:07] <termospullo> 12.04
[10:08] <theadmin> mk, can you reach the mirror you're using? Try pinging it, termospullo
[10:08] <termospullo> uh...
[10:08] <termospullo> how?
[10:09] <sam1> I sent a bug report (because we asked me to), how do I view it now?
[10:09] <sam1> it didn't take me to a website or anything
[10:11] <sunuslee> hi, is anyone there to help me debugging a network problem? i have three servers(A,B,C) in a subnet. A,C can ping to EACH OTHER. but neither of them can ping to b. then i check the arp table. A got the correct hwaddr of b. but b got the incomplete of A.
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> sunuslee  #ubuntu-server
[10:11] <sunuslee> A, B has dual nics. but i think i set up right. eth0 in a subnet, eth1 in another.
[10:11] <theadmin_> termospullo: Well... this is a ridiculous way to look it up but at least it works: archive=$(cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep archive | awk '{print $2;}' | head -n 1 | sed 's#^http://##' | sed 's#/ubuntu/##') ; ping $archive
[10:12] <sunuslee> A send arping to b can not get reply. but B send arping to a can get reply. but it seems like B didn't received it.
[10:13] <termospullo> around 450 to 500ms
[10:13] <sunuslee> anyone?
[10:13] <HappyMonk> hello !?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> sunuslee  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[10:18] <hamid2013> hi how can i download videos from web sites that dont have download link just flash playes
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  with clive
[10:19] <Guest19080> hi I just suffered from a power cut and my hdd has failed. I've tried doing this myself but am not getting anywhere so I think I need the community's help now.
[10:19] <hamid2013> what is it how can i get it? MonkeyDust
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  example of what you want to download?
[10:20] <Guest19080> I run TestDisk and I *think* it recognises my drive but then it doesn't give me an option to actually fix the problem
[10:20] <hamid2013> for example from youtube
[10:21] <sam1> I sent a bug report (because we asked me to), how do I view it now?
[10:21] <hamid2013> for example from youtube MonkeyDust
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  in a terminal, type clive [youtube url]
[10:22] <Guest19080> And strangely Boot Repair doesn't give me the option for 'Recommended Repair' - it only gives me the option to 'Create a BootInfo Summary (to get help by email or forum)'
[10:22] <hamid2013> good but im in a sit that video doesnt have any usrl look http://careers.slb.com/recentgraduates.aspx MonkeyDust
[10:24] <Guest19080> I've run out of ideas so if anyone could help I'd really appreciate it.
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  i see no video on that link, not sure what you need or want
[10:25] <hamid2013> MonkeyDust: when u go theres a video in the right hand side u click on watch video a flash player will come up and play the video
[10:27] <kostkon> hamid2013, try this. 2nd most popular ffox extension. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  guess you need the page source, look for the video link
[10:28] <hamid2013> MonkeyDust: its java script
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  yes
[10:29] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have forgotten how to check weather my system is 32 or 64 bit how would I do that again?
[10:31] <sam1> launch wireshark, refresh the page, enter 'http.request.uri contains "flv"' as filter, enjoy
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  sudo dmidecode | grep capable
[10:31] <hamid2013> MonkeyDust: no other way?
[10:31] <sam1> hamid2013: ^
[10:34] <t_kjaergaard> Hi everyone! I'm having some trouble installing ubuntu on a Acer Aspire 1410 (old notebook). I complete the installation without any problems fra a boot USB, but when it comes to the first restart it simply freezes on the pink screen - no possibility to login.. I've tried to run the Bootrepair before i perform the restart, but with the same result.. :/ Any ideas?
[10:34] <t_kjaergaard> Specs here: http://panam.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2009/acer/aspire/Aspire1410-11.6/Aspire1410sp9.shtml
[10:35] <Guest19080> if anyoine could help me with my hard disk issue i'd really appreciate it.
[10:35] <sam1> what's the issue?
[10:36] <Guest19080> sam1,  I just suffered from a power cut and my hdd has failed. I've tried doing this myself but am not getting anywhere so I think I need the community's help now.
[10:36] <Guest19080> sam1, I run TestDisk and I *think* it recognises my drive but then it doesn't give me an option to actually fix the problem
[10:36] <Guest19080> sam1, And strangely Boot Repair doesn't give me the option for 'Recommended Repair' - it only gives me the option to 'Create a BootInfo Summary (to get help by email or forum)'
[10:36] <WHAT_UP1> i just installed lubuntu (quantal), but it doesn't seem to come with wireless drivers. how do i install those? i can't set up a wired connection on this computer, but i do have another computer (the one i'm typing from) and some usb device (my phone + cable)
[10:38] <sam1> need some firmware maybe
[10:38] <Sayed> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:43] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me with my WiFi appearing as unavailable after an update?
[10:43] <WHAT_UP2> what complete idiot decided it's a good idea to have the wireless firmware .deb installer (package firmware-b43-installer) check online for updates before it installs, and fail to install if it can't connect?
[10:43] <cfhowlett> zyngawow, is this a broadcom wifi?
[10:44] <zyngawow> cfhowlett, let me look for the specific brand and all.. it is a rt2860 afaik
[10:44] <snowrichard> hello.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> zyngawow, ah, well.  realtek is out of my experience profile.  sorry
[10:44] <cfhowlett> snowrichard, greetings
[10:44] <kostkon> zyngawow, give in a terminal:  rfkill list
[10:45] <sam1> WHAT_UP2: someone who knows wired connections?
[10:45] <snowrichard> can someone look at http://www.snowgames.in and see if they get my under construction page? I just set up my router,
[10:45] <zyngawow> kostkon, no and no
[10:45] <kostkon> zyngawow, hmm ok
[10:45] <WHAT_UP2> sam1: not everyone can have one
[10:46] <WHAT_UP2> it'd be okay if it decided to just go ahead and install the old version anyway and only later look for updates
[10:46] <zyngawow> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/29/c02211915.jpg
[10:46] <WHAT_UP2> but the way it's set up now is stupid beyond belief
[10:46] <zyngawow> this is the card
[10:47] <tortik> How to manually (what files?)remove extra languages from Lubuntu 12.04?
[10:47] <sam1> I doubt you have it on your computer already
[10:47] <sam1> it needs to be downloaded, no?
[10:48] <WHAT_UP2> sam1: i thought it would be in the deb, given the deb's description. the installer just says there's a newer firmware out there. i'd even go through the trouble to set up apache and edit my /etc/hosts so it tries "downloading" from localhost, but of course i can't install apache without an internet connection
[10:48] <Nahita> guys, could anyone point me to a good manual on how to run a program as a non root
[10:48] <kostkon> Nahita, what do oyu mean
[10:49] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Thank you:D
[10:49] <GentSir> Nach0z, anything ran by user is only ran as root if you use the "sudo" command. The actual root account is disabled by default in Ubuntu
[10:50] <Nahita> GentSir: yes, thats my problem
[10:50] <jeveuxveux> When is ubuntu ready to be installed on my samsung s2?
[10:51] <GentSir> Nahita, what's the issue?
[10:51] <Nahita> Right now I can only run it my sudo, but I dont want it to have root permissions.
[10:51] <sam1> WHAT_UP2: try adding --no-download to apt-get
[10:51] <Nahita> *by
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !tablet|jeveuxveux,
[10:51] <GentSir> Nahita, what can you only run using Sudo?
[10:51] <jeveuxveux> Thank you
[10:51] <snowrichard> just set up a web server on ubuntu 12.04 http://www.snowgames.in
[10:52] <sam1> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer --no-download
[10:52] <Nahita> its. arm, a controller for tor.
[10:52] <WHAT_UP2> sam1: i'm using dpkg (since i'm installing from a deb), but adding --no-download doesn't help
[10:52] <GentSir> Nahita, sorry, that's out of my knowledge
[10:53] <Nahita> Ok, thnx anyway ;)
[10:54] <bjoern_> ahoy
[10:55] <Nahita> ohoy
[10:55] <bjoern_> hey Nahita
[10:55] <Night_Elf> Hi all. I am trying to put into use an usb modem stick, a Vodafone Broadband thing. It seems that the device is connected, the Betavine driver package installs and configuration starts, and there comes a part where it requests for a username and a password. What username and password?
[10:56] <WHAT_UP2> for the record, the url it tries to download from is broken
[10:56] <bjoern_> vodafone and vodafone pobably
[10:56] <bjoern_> r
[10:57] <Night_Elf> bjoern_: oh? I'll have to try that. But actually I have found no reference about this. Or I have been unable to.
[10:58] <bjoern_> where r u from, Night_Elf?
[10:58] <bjoern_> which country?
[10:58] <Night_Elf> bjoern_: Albania
[11:01] <bjoern_> got a vodafone stick myself, just checked, mine wants both blank
[11:03] <Night_Elf> bjoern_: oh well, just now I was trying it. Seems like it works with "vodafone" and "vodafone". I am in one of those "wtf" moments.
[11:03] <bjoern_> probably u could insert whatever u want there, doesnt matter
[11:04] <ishitva> Currently I am running Ubuntu 12.04 , but I want to upgrade to version 12.10
[11:04] <ishitva> what is the procedure for it ?
[11:04] <gnuskool> snowrichard: it  works!
[11:04] <Stdedos> sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <Stdedos> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[11:04] <Shell> good mornin everyone
[11:04] <Stdedos> ishitva:
[11:05] <Stdedos> I've compiled a command, though it doesn't perform as expected.
[11:05] <Stdedos> sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo sh -c '{cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make -j2 && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install && sh -c 'grep "hello_syscall" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1' && sh -c 'grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2'} || {cd /home/stdedos/Desktop/ && sh -c 'echo FAILURE > Failed'}; {sudo /sbin/halt -p}'
[11:05] <bjoern_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:05] <ishitva> Stdedos: can I do it by downloading image of 12.10 sepeartleyy as well ?
[11:05] <gnuskool> Shell: morning
[11:05] <bjoern_> ishitva
[11:05] <Stdedos> no need, just use terminal on bjoern_ command
[11:05] <Stdedos> or*
[11:06] <ishitva> okay
[11:06] <bjoern_> what Stdedos?
[11:06] <Shell> gnuskool: How is everythin going along for you this new today?
[11:06] <ishitva> but it will download more bytes , isn't it ?
[11:07] <bjoern_> it will download what you need to upgrade
[11:07] <bjoern_> probably less than a whole image
[11:07] <WHAT_UP2> mwahaha. i trolled my computer into downloading from itself :P
[11:07] <bjoern_> depends on what programms u have installed
[11:07] <Shell> WHAT_UP2: hahaha
[11:07] <ishitva> okay
[11:08] <cfhowlett> ishitva, suggest you download 12.10 via torrent for robust error checking.  then md5sum check the ISO, burn the iso to a boot disk or USB, boot it up, run "check disk for errors" and proceed to install
[11:08] <ishitva> Thanks
[11:08] <WHAT_UP2> and it works! yes!
[11:08] <ishitva> okay will it also upgrade my ubuntu version ?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ishitva, you'd perform a "clean install" and replace 12.04 with 12.10
[11:09] <ishitva> okay
[11:09] <ishitva> do I have to take a backup of my files ?
[11:10] <usr13> ishitva: Is there a particular reason you want to upgrade to 12.10? (Do you know about LTS?)
[11:10] <cfhowlett> ishitva, highly recommended
[11:10] <bjoern_> u should always have a backup of your files
[11:10] <ishitva> okay
[11:10] <usr13> !lts | ishitva
[11:10] <ishitva> usr13 I want to try the latest features , that why
[11:10] <usr13> ishitva: Ok, just FYI....
[11:11] <ishitva> Thanks
[11:11] <usr13> ishitva: Do you have separate partition for /home/ ?
[11:11] <bjoern_> dual boot?
[11:11] <ishitva> I don't know actually , how to check it ?
[11:12] <usr13> ishitva: cat /etc/fstab
[11:12] <bjoern_> or mount -l
[11:12] <Shell> any good books or anythin I could use to learn how to use the erminal?
[11:12] <bjoern_> the internet ;) Shell
[11:12] <usr13> ishitva: You can show us as well:  cat /etc/fstab |pastebin  Or yes, as bjoern suggests,  mount
[11:13] <ishitva> okay
[11:13] <ishitva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618955/
[11:13] <Shell> bjoern_: if you do know a good article or reference, please share
[11:14] <bjoern_> you dont, ishitva
[11:14] <bjoern_> also: ext2?? wtf
[11:14] <ishitva> okay , then what should I do ?
[11:14] <usr13> ishitva: YOu will have to backup your files because you do not have separate partition for /home/.
[11:15] <bjoern_> backup your files!
[11:15] <bjoern_> :D
[11:15] <usr13> bjoern_: You could use network install option.
[11:15] <ishitva> how to create a seperate partion for /home/
[11:15] <bjoern_> why not just do-release-upgrade
[11:15] <bjoern_> ?
[11:16] <bjoern_> usr13
[11:16] <usr13> bjoern_: Yes, do-release-upgrade  but you'll have to change the LTS switch.
[11:16] <bjoern_> it will ask you
[11:16] <bjoern_> if sure... bla bla
[11:17] <ishitva> okay let my try that , but it was downloading too much bytes that why I didn't conitnue with it as my usage is limited
[11:17] <bjoern_> how much do u have left, ishitva?
[11:18] <ishitva> around 3 GB
[11:18] <gnuskool> Shell: there are a few, there is an apress book linux system administration, there is a bash book by oreilly - there others Ive sed in the past but those helped a lot
[11:18] <bjoern_> should be enough
[11:18] <ishitva> okay
[11:19] <Shell> gnuskool: thank you. are both writen by Oreilly?
[11:19] <usr13> bjoern_: System > Administration > Update Manager and change "Long Term releases only" to "Normal releases"
[11:19] <larst> hi all
[11:19] <Stdedos> I've compiled a command, but it is not perfoming as expected
[11:19] <Stdedos> sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo sh -c '{cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make -j2 && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install && sh -c 'grep "hello_syscall" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1' && sh -c 'grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2'} || {cd /home/stdedos/Desktop/ && sh -c 'ech
[11:20] <Shell> larst: Good Moerning.
[11:20] <Shell> larst: Mornin*
[11:20] <Shell> morning**
[11:20] <bjoern_> if you want to do it via synaptic or some other package management gui-stuff maybe
[11:20] <Shell> cant ype today -_-
[11:20] <bjoern_> but not in the terminal?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> apparently not ...
[11:20] <usr13> bjoern_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades
[11:20] <gnuskool> Shell: no, the linux administration book is apress
[11:20] <cfhowlett> larst, greetings
[11:21] <Shell> gnuskool: apress. thank you :)
[11:21] <Nahita> guys, should this worry me?:
[11:21] <Nahita> Mar 16 12:14:18 TorServer sshd[3093]: Invalid user a from <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <Nahita> Mar 16 12:14:18 TorServer sshd[3093]: input_userauth_request: invalid user a [preauth]
[11:21] <Nahita> Mar 16 12:14:18 TorServer sshd[3093]: Received disconnect from <IP_ADDRESS>: 11: Bye Bye [preauth]
[11:21] <Nahita> from my log file auth
[11:21] <bjoern_> no
[11:21] <bjoern_> normal, nahita
[11:21] <bjoern_> :D
[11:21] <Nahita> take that times like 1000
[11:22] <larst> should I go for Ubuntu 12.04.2 or 12.10?
[11:22] <Nahita> thnx bjoern_
[11:22] <cfhowlett> larst, depends.  12.04 is Long Term Support.  12.10 is not
[11:22] <bjoern_> be sure to have good passwords for ur users, Nahita
[11:23] <Nahita> i think i have, but i have dissabled password auth in ssh
[11:24] <Boston65> How can I get my sound working in Ubuntu 12.04
[11:24] <bjoern_> much more secure then, Nahita
[11:24] <usr13> bjoern_: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  #To see if you are set to lts or normal.
[11:24] <bjoern_> usr13?
[11:24] <bjoern_> i dont want to upgrade anything
[11:25] <usr13> bjoern_: Is your system set to LTS?
[11:25] <bjoern_> ishitva is the guy you should talk to
[11:25] <bjoern_> im not using ubuntu, sorry
[11:25] <bjoern_> :D
[11:25] <usr13> bjoern_: Sorry
[11:25] <usr13> ishitva: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  #To see if you are set to lts or normal.
[11:26] <ishitva> do i have to type this in terminal?
[11:26] <usr13> yes
[11:26] <usr13>  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:27] <usr13> ishitva: And you can just edit the file and change lts to normal
[11:27] <ishitva> okay
[11:27] <ishitva> it didn't execute :/
[11:27] <usr13> ishitva: Error _________?
[11:27] <ishitva> no error
[11:27] <usr13> ishitva: Did you hit enter?
[11:28] <ishitva> yes
[11:28] <gnuskool> lol
[11:28] <bjoern_> :D
[11:28] <Nahita> -ir
[11:28] <Nahita> grep -ir i think, no?
[11:29] <Nahita> hm, maybe not
[11:29] <Boston65> No Sound in 12.04, tried and read what I could find, anyone can point me to the right link. Thank you
[11:30] <bjoern_> less /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | grep lts
[11:30] <usr13> Did they change the file? /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:30] <nevyn> ok I have the wierdest problem I can move my curser all over the screen but only clicks in the unity bar get registered...
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ishitva, you can also check via ubuntu software center  > edit > settings > software sources > updates > notify me of new Ubuntu version: For LTS support versions  or for any new versions
[11:30] <usr13> ishitva: just do:  cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:30] <nevyn> any ideas on if I've enabled some accessibility thing or something?
[11:30] <ishitva> okay let me check
[11:30] <marcolandia> hola.
[11:31] <cfhowlett> marcolandia, greetings
[11:31] <marcolandia> cfhowlett, cómo le va?
[11:31] <usr13> I'm on LTS,  Did they change the file?  (/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades)?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !es|marcolandia,
[11:32] <bjoern_> racist bots :D
[11:33] <usr13> ishitva: pastebinit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:33] <Stdedos> My command is not working as expected: sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo sh -c '{cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make -j2 && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install && sh -c 'grep "hello_syscall" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1' && sh -c 'grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2'} ||
[11:33] <Stdedos> {cd /home/stdedos/Desktop/ && sh -c 'echo FAILURE > Failed'}; {sudo /sbin/halt -p}'
[11:34] <jelly-home> good grief
[11:34] <usr13> Stdedos: What are you trying to do?
[11:35] <jelly-home> build a kernel and shut down the machine
[11:35] <Stdedos> usr13: Compile custom kernel & shutdown + have some basic output (This is ok, all failed etc)
[11:35] <bjoern_> thats a miracle
[11:35] <bjoern_> :D
[11:35] <jelly-home> Stdedos: why are you doing sudo when already root?
[11:36] <Stdedos> dunno ... I made it all up myself
[11:36] <bjoern_> a miracle too
[11:36] <Stdedos> but it broke down as soon as I used echo
[11:36] <sam1> is there a way to make ubuntu not turn off my monitors when I'm IDLE, by emulating mouse/keyboard input for example?
[11:37] <jelly-home> Stdedos: at some point, you'd realize your oneliner is too long and make a script out of it... I think you may have passed that point
[11:37] <bjoern_> tell your screensaver not to start, sam-1
[11:37] <sam1> bjoern_: but I did
[11:37] <dr_willis> it may be a powersaveing setting also
[11:37] <Stdedos> so help me get it clean ... I can utilise solo commands
[11:37] <bjoern_> restart your x-system?
[11:37] <usr13> sam1: Look into the power save options
[11:37] <sam1> I did
[11:37] <sam1> usr13: I changed it
[11:38] <Stdedos> but I need some logic so I can leave my system alone
[11:38] <bjoern_> so deal with it :D
[11:38] <usr13> Stdedos: You need some logic?
[11:38] <bjoern_> he does
[11:38] <bjoern_> !
[11:38] <Stdedos> Like do this, then that etc ...
[11:38] <Stdedos> that's why I made it in this format
[11:38] <sam1> really? something is broken and I must "deal with it"?
[11:38] <Stdedos> It looked more familiar usr13
[11:39] <sam1> it wouldn't be as bad if X wouldn't crash when I try to wake it up
[11:39] <usr13> Stdedos: Familiar to what?
[11:39] <bjoern_> just a joke, sam-1
[11:39] <dr_willis> sounds like the PC is hibernate/suspending to me
[11:39] <Stdedos> to what my skills with linux are used to usr13
[11:39] <bjoern_> so you checked ur power saving settings and ur screen saver settings?
[11:39] <usr13> dr_willis: ... which would be power save setting, right?
[11:39] <sam1> dr_willis: really? I don't have any swap though
[11:40] <usr13> sam1: You don't have swap?  Why?
[11:40] <dr_willis> sam1:  thats going to really goof up suspending
[11:40] <sam1> I checked both
[11:40] <sam1> they're set to not suspend/never turn off the monitors
[11:40] <ilmondodiwit> fresh install of precise 12.04.2 and cheese, cheese crashes on startup.... any ideas (on same machine with lucid worked with no problem)
[11:40] <bjoern_> what dr_willis says
[11:40] <usr13> sam1: Maybe check monitor settings.
[11:40] <usr13> sam1: Is this a desktop or laptop?
[11:41] <sam1> usr13: desktop
[11:41] <dr_willis> Under brightness & lock  is one setting,..,.,  Under Power is a 2nd setting. those are all ive turned off.
[11:42] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me with my WiFi appearing as unavailable after an update? My card uses rt2860
[11:42] <sam1> I don't have swap because I have enough RAM and I don't suspend/sleep/whatever
[11:42] <usr13> zyngawow: laptop or desktop?
[11:42] <TK-999> Any luck with sudo modprobe rt2860 ?
[11:42] <bjoern_> maybe you should sleep sometimes
[11:42] <dr_willis> Hmm.. the power setting box shows my battery in my mouse. ;) must be a new feature in 13.04
[11:43] <usr13> zyngawow: iwconfig | pastebinit  #And show us resulting URL.
[11:43] <bjoern_> otherwise its really bad for your healthiness
[11:44] <usr13> sam1: You should have swap.  (I don't think you fully  understand swap.)
[11:44] <bjoern_> fucking robots? mouses with batteries
[11:44] <bjoern_> pss
[11:45] <sam1> usr13: explain?
[11:45] <usr13> bjoern_: Lets' try and keep language family friendly.
[11:45] <Ben64> bjoern_: watch the language, and we don't need you to editorialize
[11:45] <DarsVaeda> is there a way to identify power hogs in ubuntu, something that tells me what process drains most battery like on android?
[11:45] <usr13> sam1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[11:45] <zyngawow> desktop
[11:45] <bjoern_> just because of the f... word?
[11:45] <sam1> why do you say I don't fully understand swap
[11:45] <bjoern_> :D
[11:45] <bjoern_> hell
[11:46] <zyngawow> Usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619015/
[11:46] <DarsVaeda> I know powertop maybe there is something else?
[11:46] <Ben64> bjoern_: that, and you aren't helping anyone here
[11:46] <bjoern_> i try what i can
[11:46] <bjoern_> you are not helping anyone here too
[11:47] <bjoern_> you are just language police?
[11:47] <Stdedos> usr13: any luck with my "command"?
[11:47] <Ben64> bjoern_: no, but i'm also not filling the chat with irrelevant lines
[11:48] <bjoern_> you are
[11:48] <bjoern_> ;)
[11:48] <bjoern_> right now
[11:49] <usr13> Stdedos: You mean commands...
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[11:49] <usr13> Stdedos: How do you expect me to test all those commands?
[11:49] <Stdedos> usr13: not test them, they are ok
[11:49] <usr13> zyngawow: sudo wlan0 scan  #What does that do?
[11:49] <Stdedos> usr13: as long as you can make out the logic, it is ok
[11:49] <usr13> Stdedos: No, they are not ok.
[11:50] <Stdedos> usr13: Commands one after another are 100% ok
[11:50] <Stdedos> I can't just issue them all at once in terminal usr13
[11:50] <usr13> Stdedos: No, they are not ok, but I'd need to know more about your system to know if some of those commands would work.
[11:51] <Stdedos> Minimised Ubuntu 12.04
[11:51] <Stdedos> With build-essential qt3-dev-tools
[11:51] <sam1> the free radeon driver is so slow I think I'm going to buy a nvidia card instead ;_;
[11:53] <bjoern_> good decision, sam1
[11:53] <usr13> Stdedos: You need to re-think.  Figure out what problem you are attempting to solve before you continue.
[11:54] <sam1> bjoern_: is it going to be any faster? do nvidia cards have better support?
[11:54] <Stdedos> usr13: well the problem IS solved as long as I do not use a single echo and redirecting to file
[11:54] <bjoern_> my experience is much less problems with nvidia
[11:55] <bjoern_> but i dont know about the real "power" as i dont have any programs which need much graphic power
[11:55] <usr13> sam1: How big is your Hard Drive?
[11:55] <zyngawow> usr13, command not found
[11:56] <usr13> zyngawow: sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan  #What does that do?
[11:56] <usr13> zyngawow: Sorry.
[11:56] <sam1> usr13: I have a 120 SSD and a 1 TB hard drive, why?
[11:56] <usr13> I have to go now...
[11:56] <sam1> 120 GB*
[11:56] <bjoern_> bye 13
[11:56] <usr13> sam1: Just wondering why you decided not to create a swap partition.
[11:56] <zyngawow> usr13, iwconfig: unknown command "scan"
[11:56] <jelly-home> Stdedos: make an /bin/sh or bash script instead.  Use set -e near the beginning to make it bail out on any error. Add set -x while you're debugging it.
[11:57] <usr13> Sorry, gotta go.
[11:57] <sam1> even with caching I'm not using all of my RAM, so why bother?
[11:57] <Stdedos> jelly-home: I do not understand what are you talking about :)
[11:57] <TK-999> zyngawow: what about sudo iw wlan0 scan ?
[11:57] <jelly-home> Stdedos: make a script out of your oneliner.
[11:57] <zyngawow> TK-999, command failed: Network is down (-100)
[11:57] <Stdedos> jelly-home: I do not know how to do that!
[11:58] <ilmondodiwit> thanks for help
[11:58] <ilmondodiwit> bye
[11:58] <TK-999> zyngawow: ip link only lists your wlan0 interface as wifi, right?
[11:59] <zyngawow> TK-999, yes
[11:59] <jelly-home> Stdedos: great!  Now's the right time to figure that out.  Open a text editor, put in #!/bin/sh in the first line, set -e in second, set -x in third, then write down all your commands one after another, one in line
[11:59] <dr_willis> !abs
[12:00] <TK-999> Is this a USB adapter?
[12:00] <Stdedos> jelly-home: But there is a little problem - I got a logic in there with && || ; commands
[12:00] <jelly-home> Stdedos: paste it as-is now.  ";" isn't logic, it's just a separator and can be replaced with a new line.
[12:01] <coraxx> n e body know if scanning is possible via ipp in ubuntu ?
[12:01] <bjoern_> logic :D
[12:01] <dr_willis> coraxx:  what do you mean?
[12:01] <jelly-home> Stdedos: you can refactor && and || into if-then-else-fi later if you want
[12:02] <jelly-home> bjoern_: yes, && and || are boolean logic and control operators
[12:02] <burg> hello. what is /home/user/.local/share/zeitgeist for?
[12:02] <jelly-home> flow* control
[12:02] <TK-999> zyngawow: Is this a USB adapter?
[12:02] <bjoern_> jelly-home i was just doubting the logic in his onliner
[12:02] <zyngawow> TK-999, no, PCI card
[12:03] <bjoern_> oneliner
[12:03] <coraxx> dr_willis: If I have two machines ... one with an all-in-one printer connected via usb .... and another which I would like to scan from ...and do so via network ... can I "share" my usb scanner ? ..i.e. via IPP ?
[12:03] <TK-999> zyngawow: lspci -k -> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <jelly-home> bjoern_: that's why it makes more sense to expand and rewrite into a more readable and more easily understandable script
[12:03] <bjoern_> i totally agree
[12:04] <bjoern_> jelly-home
[12:04] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Ok, I wrote the script, but there is totally no point in running it :)
[12:04] <Stdedos> jelly-home: where can I send it for you to see it, pastebin?
[12:04] <jelly-home> Stdedos: yeah
[12:04] <jelly-home> paste.ubuntu.com or any other... please don't use pastebin.com
[12:04] <jelly-home> that one's a bit annoying
[12:04] <jeveuxveux> Hi. I have my phone in download mode. and connected it to the PC through USB Cable. The Section who is supposed to change coulour to yellow or green doesnt change its colour ??
[12:05] <coraxx> dr_willis: (or maybe better yet ...create a virtual hplip-combatible server on the Ubuntu machine with the all-in-one printer attached?)
[12:05] <goodtime> just dcc it then
[12:05] <burg> it seems that zeitgeist folder has occupied all my disk space (more than 95gb from 120gb ssd)
[12:05] <bjoern_> jelly-home , why not pastebin?
[12:05] <Stdedos> jelly-home: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619056/
[12:05] <dr_willis> coraxx:  from what ive seen.. if you have 2 pcs with cups on both.. one is shareing a printer via cups (it has a share printer setting i recall) the other cups servers should see it.
[12:07] <coraxx> dr_willis: yes cups sees the printer ...and installs it find ... however nt the scanning function :-(  ...how to I get that feature as well ?
[12:07] <coraxx> dr_willis: *find = fine
[12:07] <dr_willis> coraxx:  cups has nothing to do with scanning.
[12:07] <dr_willis> that would be SANE
[12:08] <dr_willis> !sane
[12:08] <jeveuxveux> I'm trying to install cyanogenmod on my Samsung sg2.. I've downladed all the needed Zip files. and Odin 1.85. Now first step is to put the phone into downloading mode. then connect it to the PC. then Odin shall notice the phone. but it doesnt. can anyone help me?
[12:08] <TK-999> jeveuxveux: This isn't an ubuntu question
[12:08] <jelly-home> Stdedos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619066/
[12:09] <jelly-home> bjoern_: ads
[12:09] <jeveuxveux> TK-999 is a ubuntu question in a early stage.. after installing cyanogenmod my goal is to install ubuntu-touch.
[12:09] <bjoern_> ad-blocker?
[12:10] <jelly-home> bjoern_: why bother?
[12:10] <bjoern_> i was just curious
[12:10] <jelly-home> there are cleaner alternatives
[12:10] <bjoern_> sure
[12:10] <coraxx> dr_willis: yes I know that cups is for printing only.  But it is not clear to me who manages the protocol between the two PCs in regards to the other features the printer might have.  When you install a HP printer today in Ubuntu...the scanner feature automatically follow (even when sane is not caled for)
[12:10] <dr_willis> coraxx:  as far as i know - nothing does..
[12:10] <dr_willis> ive never noticed a network scanning service on ubuntu
[12:11] <dr_willis> the fact its an  all in one device means nothing other then it saves desk space
[12:11] <coraxx> dr_willis: ...however, some of HPs All-in-one printers requires an extra plugin for the scanning feature to work.
[12:11] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Ok, but does this forces every command to run after one another IF the previous was successful, else create the failed file, and shutdown?
[12:11] <TK-999> jeveuxveux: Did you check out #ubuntu-touch ?
[12:12] <Stdedos> jelly-home: *not regarding the output
[12:12] <coraxx> dr_willis: yeah me neither.  Maybe its time to develop a virtual HPLIP compatible server, so other ubuntu PC can attach printers via the regular HP-setup :-)
[12:12] <dr_willis> my printers are all stand alone networked devices these days
[12:13] <coraxx> dr_willis: thanx again for taking the time with me. Its always a pleasure.  take care and have a pleasent weekend :-D
[12:13] <bjoern_> just tell the printer to scan to a network folder, coraxx
[12:14] <bjoern_> and grab the scan from there?
[12:16] <coraxx> bjoern_: thanx for your suggestion :-)  ... however this current setup that I'm trying to establish, doesn't quite get solve by it.
[12:16] <jelly-home> Stdedos: nope, set -e will make the script exit if there's any failure before the if.  You want to shutdown at the end without exception?  You could add a trap doing that if any error happens.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619082/
[12:16] <bjoern_> ok, sorry
[12:17] <Stdedos> jelly-home: no redirection needed on trap* ?
[12:17] <jelly-home> Stdedos: sorry, trap has to come first before the command that might fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619086/
[12:18] <Boston65> any help on no sound from Ubuntu 12.04, volume  slider is greyed out doesn't move... Thank you
[12:18] <greenhorn_> I am new here and was looking for some guidance on a recommended vpn client that I will accept my pcf  file
[12:18] <jelly-home> Stdedos: redirection would accomplish what?
[12:18] <jelly-home> Stdedos: oh, that's just a typo
[12:18] <Stdedos> write failure into /*/*/*/Failed
[12:18] <coraxx> bjoern_: (I have a little hope that by making Ubuntu the primary printer/scan server ...one would be able to avoid the high cost of network all-in-one equipment and just attach them to the ubuntu PC instead...and get all the features you would get from a regular network all-in-one printer.)
[12:18] <jelly-home> so yeah, add it
[12:18] <coraxx> bye all :-)
[12:18] <Stdedos> :)
[12:19] <Stdedos> jelly-home: is this if valid? "
[12:19] <Stdedos> if grep -q "hello_syscall" System.map && \
[12:19] <Stdedos> 	grep -q "find_roots" System.map; then
[12:19] <Stdedos> 	grep "hello_syscall" System.map  > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1 && \
[12:19] <Stdedos> 	grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2
[12:19] <Stdedos>
[12:19] <FloodBot1> Stdedos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <bjoern_> coraxx : me too, but as long as it is like it is now i just do some workarounds
[12:20] <jelly-home> Stdedos: sure, and again there's no need to && with set -e.
[12:20] <Stdedos> just \ ?
[12:20] <jelly-home> Stdedos: each command in separate line.
[12:21] <Stdedos> I just want both the outputs of grep into (maybe the same) file
[12:23] <spason> Just did netinstall of 12.10 on asus eee pc.  Seemed like everything was fine, but now boots to terminal screen:
[12:23] <spason> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-25-generic i686)
[12:23] <TK-999> spason: Log in & type startx to see if that helps
[12:23] <spason> Is there something I have to do to make it load up the GUI or whatever it's called?
[12:24] <spason> tk: thanks.  brb
[12:24] <jelly-home> Stdedos: you could even use the exit status of grep at the same time you're redirecting, if you really want that output, so there's no need to run them twice.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619097/
[12:24] <TK-999> First enter your username, then it prompts you for your password. It is normal not to see any characters; that's for security.
[12:24] <jelly-home> Stdedos: spot the remaining error
[12:25] <Stdedos> jelly-home: there is an error in the script? or if there is anything else I am on my own?
[12:25] <jelly-home> Stdedos: just the wrong variable name used in trap
[12:26] <spason> tk: it said xinit not installed, so i followed the instructions to sudo it.
[12:26] <spason> it is doing that now.  is xinit the nice stuff you see in ubuntu?
[12:27] <spason> I'm in beginner ubuntu 101
[12:27] <Stdedos> Ok .... That whole thing was hard
[12:27] <TK-999> spason: it'd start the X server that manages the GUI
[12:27] <Stdedos> thanks for putting up with me jelly-home
[12:27] <Stdedos> sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo
[12:27] <Stdedos> So I can use this compile.sh with this command
[12:28] <Stdedos> like sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo compile.sh
[12:28] <jelly-home> skip the second sudo.
[12:28] <Stdedos> like sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p compile.sh
[12:28] <jelly-home> seems reasonable
[12:28] <bjoern_> does
[12:28] <Stdedos> jelly-home: thanks again :) for putting up :)
[12:29] <Stdedos> Going to eat and test it ;)
[12:29] <spason> tk: no good. when i type startx it makes a little white screen in the upper right corner and still just has terminal line
[12:29] <jelly-home> Stdedos: not sure if trapping ERR is a bash-specific, I'd put #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh as the first line just to be safe
[12:29] <TK-999> spason: Which eee pc is this?
[12:29] <JohnD_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu right now, but after custom install (sda1 - /, sda2 - /home, sda3 - swap) OS won't boot (/dev/sda was selected as boot location). Problem is that my connection doesn't work so I cannot install anything...
[12:30] <Stdedos> since there is no difference, it is ok
[12:30] <spason> asus eee pc seashell
[12:30] <TK-999> spason: Model number?
[12:30] <hpuser4466> Using ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE desktop.  Pcmanfm (file manager) won't display .avi files from my video camera. How to change default filer to rox-filer?
[12:31] <jelly-home> Stdedos: there's a difference if you run it on any system where /bin/sh is not bash.  Also, you'll probably need to specify full /path/to/compile.sh or ./compile.sh for -p if that script is not in root's path
[12:31] <spason> asus 1015PE?
[12:32] <JohnD_> I'm trying random things I googled on ask ubuntu, but I'm like a blind man, and I really don't know what am I doing
[12:32] <spason> It doesn't seem like anything is wrong, it just doedsn't seem to know I want to pretty pictures.

[12:32] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, on what hardware?
[12:32] <Magoogle> hello
[12:33] <cfhowlett> Magoogle, greetingss
[12:33] <Magoogle> Anyone tell me if the /etc/modprobe.conf file is suppose to be empty?
[12:33] <JohnD_> gigabyte motherboard, intel i5 proc, ssd disk
[12:33] <lalondong> guys
[12:33] <lalondong> i need help
[12:33] <lalondong> i'm new to ubuntu
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !details|lalondong,
[12:34] <lalondong> i just installed this about 3 days ago
[12:34] <TK-999> spason: Anything in ls /var/log | grep Xorg ?
[12:34] <lalondong> i've installed aircrack following the instruction from this site : http://www.riyazwalikar.com/2010/12/installing-aircrack-ng-on-ubuntu-1204.html
[12:34] <spason> TK: mac user here.  You gotta speak point and click.  :)
[12:34] <TK-999> Just type: ls /var/log | grep Xorg
[12:35] <cfhowlett> lalondong, aircrack isn't supported here.
[12:35] <lalondong> but when i try to cd aircrack-ng-1.1 ,  it says no such directory
[12:35] <bjoern_> ohh no
[12:35] <lalondong> i'm sorry, i'm really new to ubuntu, i've just installed this about 3 days ago
[12:36] <cfhowlett> lalondong, check with the aircrack site for support.
[12:36] <JohnD_> can I create boot partition with gparted?
[12:36] <lalondong> is there any irc channel for that?
[12:36] <spason> Xorg.log.0
[12:36] <JohnD_> boot only that is, is there a point in doing such a thing?
[12:36] <spason> Xorg.log.old
[12:36] <cfhowlett> lalondong, check their site for those details.
[12:36] <lalondong> ok, thankyou
[12:36] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, yes you can
[12:37] <TK-999> spason: Could you paste the output of sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.log.0 to https://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[12:37] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: how big? can it be /dev/sda4? is boot flag only required? how to install this grub on it?
[12:38] <spason> not sure.  how do i do that from terminal?
[12:38] <spason> i can type that command and copy it, but then what?
[12:38] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: and most importantly can it help?
[12:38] <TK-999> Type the command and copy its output to https://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:39] <TK-999> If it's a huge wall of text, copy the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[12:39] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, no size limit that I know of, boot flaggable is you wish, and you can direct grub to install it there.  Help?  sorry I must have missed the issue you're trying to fix ...
[12:39] <spason> tk : i don't know how
[12:39] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, you can install grub to any partition you want
[12:39] <spason> i don't have any windows.
[12:40] <TK-999> Oh yes... Any visible errors in there?
[12:40] <spason> tk: sorry for my ignorance!  I don't even know how to highlight things with no mouse.
[12:40] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I've installed ubuntu and it is where it should be (/dev/sda1 - /, /dev/sda2 - /home, /dev/sda3 - swap) but it doesn't boot
[12:40] <spason> hang  on...it's long!
[12:41] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, no error messages?  does it boot fail at the same point each time?
[12:41] <JohnD_> I got a message that no bootable device
[12:41] <spason> I can't even scroll up.
[12:42] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: although it is set in bios as first device to boot from
[12:42] <TK-999> spason: Run cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less and tell me if there are any errors
[12:42] <TK-999> With less, you can scroll with the arrow keys and PgUP/Down
[12:42] <JohnD_> I can only run ubuntu from usb stick, and I don't have even internet there
[12:42] <llutz> TK-999: easier: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:42] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, if this is a newish machine, I'd GUESS you might be seeing a gpt/mbr confusion ...  I had this happen when I installed to an ihackintosh.  Had to rewrite the partition table and it was fixed ...
[12:42] <lalondong> okey guys. i need another help
[12:43] <lalondong> how do i find some folders in my system
[12:43] <lalondong> ?
[12:43] <TK-999> Thanks - spason: In that case, try what llutz posted
[12:43] <llutz> lalondong: find / -type d -iname '*pattern*'
[12:43] <Magoogle> anyone explain to me how to change a driver? My cctv card is showing up as Philips SAA7134, but its a bt878 card.
[12:43] <lalondong> what is *pattern mean?
[12:43] <lalondong> sorry i'm new to ubuntu
[12:43] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: ....
[12:44] <llutz> lalondong: parts of the dirname
[12:44] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, yep ...
[12:44] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: is there something i can do right now?
[12:44] <spason> nightmare.  how do i get back to the terminal line once it says END, (after TK's command)
[12:45] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, basic check first: did you md5sum the ISO, and did you "check disk for error" when you booted?
[12:45] <JohnD_> I mean something simple, I'm guessing that this grub is not installed
[12:45] <llutz> spason: press "q"
[12:45] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: yep, I've done check disk for error
[12:45] <alocer> hello guys
[12:45] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, easiest thing is to just re-install grub ...
[12:45] <cfhowlett> alocer, greetings
[12:45] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: how?
[12:45] <spason> promise me switching to linux is worth it.
[12:46] <JohnD_> grub-reinstall ?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !grub|JohnD_,
[12:46] <cfhowlett> spason, no promises.  Have you a specific support question?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, do the "restore grub" option.
[12:46] <alocer> q --> proxychains  dosent support '443' port any thing that support '443' port and have the same use
[12:46] <TK-999> spason: type q
[12:47] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I was trying grub-install /dev/sda but that gave me path /boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[12:47] <spason> Ok.  I typed grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the only thing that comes up is
[12:47] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, ah.  is this a dual boot machine?
[12:47] <JohnD_> no
[12:48] <JohnD_> I mean its no boot
[12:48] <spason> 32.223] initializing built in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[12:48] <BluesKaj> spason, there are no guarantees ni life or computing
[12:48] <JohnD_> I just put it together and ubuntu from usb was my first boot
[12:48] <spason> and EE is in red letters, as if an error had occurred. but it's just because they happen to be together right?
[12:49] <spason> blues: true, true.  I just was hoping this would be a little less painful.  it took me a week to get this computer I'm on going, (mac ppc g4), so i figured a little netbook would be a snap.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, thinking
[12:49] <TK-999> It just highlights the expression - anything else besides
[12:49] <spason> tk: nothing else.
[12:50] <spason> What makes the gui load?
[12:51] <spason> There are some WWs in var/log/xorg
[12:51] <TK-999> spason: startx would make it. Are you sure you installed Ubuntu and not Ubuntu Server?
[12:51] <spason> i'm not sure of anything!
[12:51] <bjoern_> spason: the load guy ;)
[12:52] <spason> get the load guy over here then!
[12:52] <spason> tk: if i did that, am I F'd?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, I'd suggest you reinstall ubuntu and run with the defaults EXCEPT to put the /home in a dedicated, separate partition NOT under /    put grub in the default sda/dev
[12:52] <TK-999> spason: If that happened, you could just reinstall normal Ubuntu
[12:52] <spason> from terminal?
[12:53] <bjoern_> from cd/dvd/usb
[12:53] <spason> no cd
[12:53] <bjoern_> usb
[12:53] <bjoern_> or by praying
[12:53] <spason> no usb
[12:53] <bjoern_> then praying
[12:53] <spason> but wait
[12:53] <TK-999> No USB? How did you install it then?
[12:54] <spason> from internet
[12:54] <spason> on hard disk
[12:54] <spason> unetbootin on hard disk
[12:54] <bjoern_> no usb?
[12:54] <spason> i have usb, just no stick with ubuntu on it
[12:54] <spason> because that's a whole 'nother story re: mac osx powerpc
[12:54] <bjoern_> you could create one
[12:54] <bjoern_> not difficult
[12:54] <spason> tell me how
[12:55] <spason> if you have time.  :)
[12:55] <bjoern_> u r on mac osx right now?
[12:55] <spason> no.  but i have that too.
[12:55] <spason> i have a powerbook i'm on running ubuntu 10.04
[12:55] <bjoern_> whats your system right now?
[12:55] <spason> and a mac mini that still has osx on it
[12:55] <bjoern_> ok
[12:55] <bjoern_> 10.04?
[12:56] <spason> yeah, it's the one that was suggested works well with powerpc architecture
[12:56] <spason> and does, so far.
[12:56] <spason> is there a way to see if i installed the server instead of the one i want?
[12:57] <spason> it says Wecome to Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-25-generic i686)
[12:57] <bjoern_> im sorry, i really dont know about ppc
[12:57] <spason> It's a nightmare!
[12:57] <bjoern_> never used any apple product
[12:58] <spason> I love them, but their technology has outpaced my income.
[12:58] <spason> so
[12:58] <bjoern_> the technology?
[12:58] <bjoern_> :D
[12:58] <spason> well, i mean only that they have ditched the architecture in my computers, and so fuck them.
[12:59] <spason> can you swear in here?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !language
[12:59] <spason> sorry! anyway, if you had a netbook that booted into ubuntu but only the terminal, but wanted it to boot to the graphical interface, what would you do?
[13:00] <somsip> spason: install a graphical interface
[13:00] <schnuffle> Install the correct GUi
[13:00] <cute_bettong> sudo start lightdm?
[13:00] <spason> how do i do that?
[13:01] <spason> I think it's installed right, i just think that pretty part is missing.
[13:01] <spason> excuse my hi-tech lingo.
[13:01] <somsip> spason: find one you like. Then find if it has a package in ubuntu and 'sudo install desktop-I-like'
[13:01] <spason> somsip: i like the regular one.  what is it called?
[13:02] <somsip> spason: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109430/commands-for-installing-unity-on-ubuntu-minimal-desktop
[13:02] <schnuffle> Spason if it doesnt work there mostly a problem with the correct graphic driver, the default is ubuntu-desktop
[13:03] <spason> this is exciting!  I feel like it's 1989 again and I just got the new DOS 3.3!
[13:03] <Kartagis> has youtube's API changed? because I haven't been able to use youtube-dl for a while
[13:04] <TLM> how do i change my name and computer name in terminal?
[13:04] <TK-999> TLM: sudo echo yourhostname > /etc/hostname
[13:05] <spason> By the way, thank you all for being here.  I'd have scrapped any notion of even using ubuntu weeks ago if it weren't for all your incredible help.
[13:05] <TLM> TK-999 permission denied even with sudo
[13:06] <TLM> there is another simple way to do it using alias
[13:06] <TLM> i only want to do it temporarily
[13:07] <spason> is it possible that the installer asked me if i want to put a desktop on there and i said no?
[13:07] <schnuffle> Spason, if you used the server image then it wont install GUI
[13:07] <TLM> how do i change my name and computer name in terminal temporarily?
[13:08] <spason> not saying it's impossible, but i don't think i did that.
[13:08] <schnuffle> Tlm: you can change then env variable PS1
[13:09] <TLM> ahhh that's the once, thanks schnuffle
[13:09] <schnuffle> Spason check dmesg and /var/log/x11 to look for problems
[13:09] <spason> well, it's installing the desktop now i think
[13:09] <spason> lots of stuff!
[13:09] <schnuffle> Tlm but that only changes your prompt, nothing more
[13:11] <Kartagis> has youtube's API changed? because I haven't been able to use youtube-dl for a while
[13:12] <TLM> that's all i wanted, cheers
[13:14] <eitch> hi guys. I've got a weird problem in 12.10. I use the facebook integration in firefox and message always crackle. This is very annoying. I had a similar issue with skype and there i needed to disable a pulseaudio plugin. Anyone know anything?
[13:15] <hamid1990> hi i want to download videos from this site http://careers.slb.com/recentgraduates.aspx how?
[13:17] <gerep> Hello world. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 for about 4-5 months and since yesterday it is terribly slow to load Unity, any ideas?
[13:17] <Boston65> no sound in Ubuntu 12.04, sound card not found. Help please...Thank you
[13:18] <jose106> hamid1990, you could use videoconverter with firefox
[13:18] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I just reinstalled using default options (ubuntu on full hdd), it worked, but its not what I wanted...
[13:18] <hamid1990> jose106: how can i get that?
[13:19] <TK-999> gerep: It might be that you are not using GPU rendering for some reason
[13:20] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I will try to reinstall it again and create my set of partitions, maybe somehow it will startup this time (since it did something to this /dev/sda)... I don't know,..
[13:20] <TK-999> inxi -Xg
[13:21] <jose106> hamid1990, open firefox and under extensions search for videoconverter, install it
[13:21] <spason> shouuld installing the desktop take a really long time?
[13:22] <ars23> does anybody knows an application for linux like pspice? an application that creates/edit an electrical scheme and simulates it...
[13:22] <dr_willis> !find pspice
[13:23] <dr_willis> should be spice in the repos of some form
[13:23] <ars23> ok... thanks!
[13:23] <llutz> !info ngspice
[13:23] <llutz> ars ^ ^
[13:24] <spason> Well, while I'm waiting for the desktop to download, i have some other burning ubuntu questions.
[13:24] <spason> Do you guys only use software from ubuntu, or is it safe to use other ppas etc?
[13:24] <ars23> thanks
[13:24] <dr_willis> depenmds on the ppa
[13:25] <JohnD_> by default ubuntu created fat32 partition with boot flag, 200 Mb, and then sda2 is ext2 (240 Mb) - what is this one used for?
[13:25] <JohnD_> last one is lvm2 pv? why not ext4??
[13:25] <spason> dr willis: what does it depend on?
[13:26] <dr_willis> whos handl;ing the ppa
[13:27] <JohnD_> why no swap partition by default?
[13:28] <dr_willis> sounds like the installer screwed up. swap partiotns by default is the defauilt ;)
[13:30] <spason> is there a command in terminal that just installs ubuntu if you are hooked to ethernet?
[13:30] <llutz> JohnD_: it's an UEFI system? then the 200MB fat-partition is efi-boot
[13:31] <spason> is sudo apt-install ubuntu desktop a ginormous task?
[13:32] <spason> my screen has been scrolling for like 15 minutes
[13:32] <TK-999> sudo apt-get install unity
[13:32] <spason> too late
[13:32] <doomlord> canubuntus windowmanager do transparent titlebars
[13:32] <spason> i wrote ubuntu desktop
[13:32] <spason> is that bad?
[13:33] <spason> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205376/ubuntu-12-10-unity-wont-start-on-startup
[13:34] <spason> sorry, i meant http://askubuntu.com/questions/109430/commands-for-installing-unity-on-ubuntu-minimal-desktop
[13:34] <spason> Did I mess up?
[13:34] <TK-999> no problem, that's also good
[13:39] <spason> TK: I think it's working!!
[13:40] <TK-999> I'm sure you'll like it and eventually migrate to Arch :P
[13:40] <spason> holy sh  holy moley!  it worked!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
[13:40] <spason> I'm sure I'll be back soon!
[13:41] <spason> Ok, I'm back.
[13:41] <spason> TK, if you've got time- one more thing.  :)
[13:41] <TK-999> sure, go ahead
[13:41] <spason> the wireless doesn't show up.  Do i have to install something for that?
[13:43] <Squarepy_> check additional drivers under system settings spason
[13:43] <spason> ty
[13:43] <spason> So, is it easy to change desktops if you find a different one you like?
[13:43] <chunkyhead> can we make shell out of bind commands?
[13:44] <lalondong> guys
[13:44] <lalondong> how to install wireless driver on ubuntu?
[13:44] <Squarepy_> spason, yes, just install and login logout, selecting the session you want
[13:45] <Squarepy_> lalondong, more info
[13:45] <spason> very cool.
[13:46] <smallfoot-> How can I find out what *real* kernel I use? uname -a, shows "3.8.0-12-generic #21-Ubuntu" is that 3.8.0 or 3.8.3? Why not 3.8.3?
[13:46] <schnuffle> smallfoot-: your kernel is 3.8.0 why should it be 3.8.3
[13:46] <TK-999> !latest | smallfoot
[13:47] <jdukiet> hello, i am running 12.04 LTS and was wondering if i could assign a shortcut for the wheel button on my mouse to the virtual window button on the launcher?
[13:47] <lalondong1> do i have to install wireless driver? and how to install them?
[13:47] <Squarepy_> lalondong, please do not re-ask and provide more info
[13:47] <smallfoot-> TK-999, but 3.8.0 is stable, then 3.8.3 has no new features, only bug fixes, so it should make it even more stable
[13:48] <schnuffle> lalondong: normally not but there're some newer models where it is necessary
[13:48] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: check the changelog for the kernel package (linux-image-3.8.0-12-generic) to see which vanilla release it's based on
[13:50] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, thanks, but it doesn't say
[13:51] <TK-999> smallfoot: Yesterday, someone complained about how Fedora upgrading to 3.8.x wrecks wifis
[13:53] <jdukiet> hello, i am running 12.04 LTS and was wondering if i could assign a shortcut for the wheel button on my mouse to the virtual window button or I'm sorry, the workspace switcher button on the launcher?
[13:53] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: really?  I see "rebase to v3.8.2" down the file
[13:56] <Kruti> hello , i'm running 12.04 LTS . I installed devstack and also logged into the dashboard thorugh local server in colg , but not able to do in my house
[13:56] <lalondong1> i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS , and when i try to search additional drivers from System Settings, it says 'No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.'
[13:56] <lalondong1> Is that mean i have no wireless driver or anything? Sorry, i'm really new to Ubuntu/Linux, i am Windows former user.
[13:57] <TK-999> lalondongl: Is your wifi working?
[13:57] <lalondong1> Yeah, working fine.
[13:57] <TK-999> Then there is no need for proprietary drivers.
[13:57] <lalondong1> i'm using wifi right now to chat with all of you guys.
[13:57] <TK-999> The open source equivalents work fine.
[13:57] <lalondong1> how do i know that i have this wireless driver?
[13:58] <Tm_T> lalondong1: by the fact that it works just fine? (:
[13:59] <lalondong1> yeah ? :D
[13:59] <TK-999> lalondongl: lspci -k or lsusb -k depending on whether it's internal or USB
[14:00] <ronalds> can't install matlab, no shortcuts creates
[14:00] <ronalds> pls help
[14:01] <Somelauw> How can I change where skype stores my downloads. I googled, but all answers assume that I'm using windows which has a completely different skype user interface.
[14:01] <scott_z> I am monitoring my data transfer through system monitor and there is a TON of data being sent to my machine but I am not doing any downloads. How can I see what is doing all that data transfer?
[14:01] <ronalds> matlab
[14:01] <ronalds> matlab: command not found
[14:01] <ronalds> after installing and adding license file
[14:01] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, ah, now I found it!
[14:01] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, I actually found "rebase to v3.8.3" :)
[14:02] <jelly-home> well then
[14:02] <llutz> !info iftop | scott_z use this
[14:03] <smallfoot-> Why is kernel name "3.8.0-12-generic #21-Ubuntu" when the changelog say it rebase around 3.8.3 ?
[14:03] <natedawg> hey guys need help
[14:03] <natedawg> is this the place?
[14:03] <smallfoot-> yeah! :)
[14:04] <Kruti> anyone knows about openstack?
[14:04] <lalondong1> TK-999 : how do i know its internal or USB?
[14:04] <natedawg> Sweet having problems with ati ccc using open source driver
[14:04] <JohnD_> swap - logical or primary?
[14:04] <llutz> JohnD_: doesn't matter
[14:05] <ronalds> can't get matlab to work
[14:05] <JohnD_> ok
[14:05] <dacorr> Has anyone had any luck dual booting Winblows 8 with Ubuntu?
[14:05] <coop999> Good morning.   Running 12.10 and firefox 19.0.2 / chromium Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 12.10 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) .    Trying to start and run a Webex session crashes either browser.     Java information from console is here:
[14:05] <natedawg> yea on same hdd or seperate?
[14:05] <scott_z> llutz: thanks just what i was looking for
[14:05] <coop999> Java Plug-in 1.6.0_43
[14:05] <coop999>     Using JRE version 1.7.0_17-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM   ava.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
[14:05] <coop999>         at com.sun.deploy.net.protocol.https.Handler.openConnection(Handler.java:97)
[14:05] <coop999>         at java.net.URL.openConnection(URL.java:971)
[14:05] <coop999>         at sun.net.www.protocol.jar.JarURLConnection.<init>(JarURLConnection.java:84)
[14:05] <FloodBot1> coop999: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <phaedral> looking for newb-safe place to comment-up example 4-2 of adv bash scripting guide at ldp
[14:05] <TK-999> lalondongl: Is your adapter builtin or external, connected to a USB port?
[14:06] <lalondong1> internal bro
[14:06] <eitch> hi guys. I've got a weird problem in 12.10. I use the facebook integration in firefox and message always crackle. This is very annoying. I had a similar issue with skype and there i needed to disable a pulseaudio plugin. Anyone know anything?
[14:07] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: 3.8.0-12-generic denotes the module compatibility.   (usually not in ubuntu, but) you might get an updated package based on a newer 3.8.x that still retains binary module compat. so they don't have to be rebuilt
[14:07] <coop999> appologies for the flood.   didn't realize it would boot me
[14:07] <TK-999> lalondongl: lspci -k to identify your driver, but if there are no problems, there isn't really any need to
[14:08] <lalondong1> TK-999 : it says ; Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[14:08] <lalondong1> so my wireless driver are that one?
[14:08] <TK-999> lspci -k -> the corresponding "Kernel driver in use" section
[14:09] <coop999> Good morning.   running webex with either firefox or chromium crashes browser.    Java console reports error  with java.lang.ExceptionininitializerError      running Java Plug-in 1.6.0_43
[14:09] <coop999>     Using JRE version 1.7.0_17-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
[14:09] <lalondong1> TK-999 : ahh, okey,. do i need to install the driver or no? my wireless are working fine, but should i install them and how?
[14:09] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: this interface between two pieces of binary, compiled software that interact with each other is called an ABI.  For kernel packages, you might read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/BuildSystem/ABI
[14:09] <TK-999> no, you should not
[14:09] <TK-999> They are already installed and working, no further configuration is needed
[14:09] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, ah, I see
[14:10] <JohnD_> pff
[14:10] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, so this is for nvidia driver to not break or something?
[14:10] <JohnD_> finally
[14:10] <JohnD_> god....
[14:10] <lalondong1> TK-999 : Ok, and how to see full list of available wireless networks? cause everytime i near the connection it connecting automaticly withtout showing another networks?
[14:10] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: correct
[14:11] <termospullo> hey guys I am having problems installing updates
[14:11] <smallfoot-> proprietary drivers are fucking us too much
[14:11] <JohnD_> cfhowlett, Ilutz: thx for pointing me somewhere
[14:11] <TK-999> lalondongl: into the Terminal, type: ip link and that gives the name of the wlan interface (e.g. wlan0)
[14:11] <TK-999> Then, use this name in: sudo iw wlan0 scan | grep SSID
[14:14] <lalondong1> TK-999 : it says only one, but when i'm using windows, they detect the other one networks, do i have problem with my ubuntu?
[14:14] <coop999> Good morning.   running 12.10 and running webex with either firefox or chromium crashes browser.    Java console reports error  with java.lang.ExceptionininitializerError      running Java Plug-in 1.6.0_43   Using JRE version 1.7.0_17-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
[14:16] <Nahita> anyone here using sopcast?
[14:17] <ternomic> hi
[14:17] <ternomic> my kernel is 3.8.2-206 .fc18.x86_64   my laptop is dell vostro 1320 . i have wireless problem. how can i solve it?
[14:17] <ternomic> there is no wireless
[14:19] <llutz> ternomic: "lsb_release -sc" please
[14:19] <termospullo> Hey
[14:20] <termospullo> I am unbale to install updates or anything from software center on 12.04
[14:20] <termospullo> *unable
[14:20] <aliendroid> hi i got segfault error when i try to run apt-get. how should i fix that ?  189.252623] apt-get[3647]: segfault at 7fab89e4d000 ip 00007fab7ac32ef2 sp 00007fff410f50d0 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7fab7abdb000+11b000]
[14:22] <LyzardKing> I just installed ubuntu 13.04 and the bluetooth indicator is not appearing on the panel.
[14:22] <llutz> !ringtail | LyzardKing
[14:22] <LyzardKing> join #ubuntu+1
[14:22] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me please? My WiFi stays as unavailable... I'm using my phone as a modem, which make my internet really slow...
[14:23] <greenhorn_> Can anyone help with an issue I am having with my VPN? ty!!
[14:23] <termospullo> hey guys
[14:23] <termospullo> I am unable to install updates on 12.04
[14:24] <termospullo> after asking for confirmation in terminal it spits this out
[14:24] <termospullo> Puretaan malleja paketeteista: 100 %
[14:24] <termospullo> Esiräätälöidään paketteja...
[14:24] <termospullo> Tehdään asetuksia: install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu2) ...
[14:24] <termospullo> /etc/environment: rivi 2: odottamaton EOF (tiedostonloppu) odotettaessa sulkevaa ”"”
[14:24] <termospullo> dpkg: virhe käsiteltäessä install-info (--configure):
[14:24] <FloodBot1> termospullo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <termospullo>  aliprosessi komentotiedosto post-installation asennettu palautti virhetilakoodin 2
[14:24] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me please? My WiFi stays as unavailable... I'm using my phone as a modem, which make my internet really slow... I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and my net card chipset is rt2860
[14:25] <Stdedos> is this trap correct? " trap "echo Make\ FAILURE > $stamps/Failed; date >> $stamps/Failed; /sbin/halt -p" ERR "
[14:25] <Ichne> Hi! Does HybridSLI work on Linux?
[14:26] <termospullo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619387/
[14:26] <termospullo> any help?
[14:27] <mehmet> Hi
[14:28] <jelly-home> Stdedos: looks right for bash... did you change the interpreter line to #!/bin/bash
[14:29] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Hello again - Yes I did but I had no chance to test it so far
[14:29] <zyngawow> Is Ubuntu 12.10 WiFi broken with certain chips like rt2800?
[14:29] <gaspe1> Hi, I have a problem dectecting hardware sensors with "lm-sensors / sensors-detect" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619359/
[14:29] <saki`> okay
[14:30] <saki`> noob question
[14:30] <saki`> in the installer, if you're installing alongside windows 7
[14:30] <jelly-home> Stdedos: test it! http://paste.debian.net/242118/
[14:30] <saki`> when it gives you an option to divide the space
[14:30] <saki`> is ubuntu on the left or the right?
[14:30] <saki`> it doesn't say
[14:30] <Night_Elf> Hello all. I have been looking for some information on how to establish a sort of "interface bonding" with two (these are GSM/3G usb sticks). Most of what I can find online is about ethernet bonding. Where can I find some good info on usb mobile modems (potentially from different carrier/providers) bonding, in such a way that the user doesn't care which or how many of them are currently at use?
[14:30] <jelly-home> Stdedos: /bin/false always fails, thus triggering the trap
[14:31] <saki`> (also, hey jelly!)
[14:31] <gaspe1> saki: on the right
[14:32] <jelly-home> hello there
[14:32] <saki`> ubuntu's on the right? so if i drag it all the way to the right, it'll give me the minimum possible space that ubuntu will take on my harddrive, yes?
[14:33] <helpmeiamnoob> hey guys i want to get all the files starting with the name p, how to exe that on cli?
[14:33] <ihre> How come NFS is twice as fast as SMB? With NFS, I can copy at ~118MB/s and with SMB only ~55MB/s.
[14:33] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Nice debug ... Waiting my VM to boot
[14:33] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: in the current directory? echo p*
[14:33] <gaspe1> saki: It's like a virutal disk
[14:33] <zyngawow> Is Ubuntu 12.10 WiFi broken with certain chips like rt2800?
[14:33] <helpmeiamnoob> jellow, can it be done using the ls command?
[14:34] <termospullo> having problems with installing updates on 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619387/
[14:34] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: sure, why?
[14:34] <helpmeiamnoob> jelly-home,  how to do that
[14:34] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: replace echo with the command of your liking
[14:35] <helpmeiamnoob> when i type ls -l what does the first d stand for?
[14:35] <holstein> termospullo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171205/e-sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1 try this, and think about the sources you have aded
[14:36] <helpmeiamnoob> the d in drwxrwxrwx
[14:36] <IdleOne> directory
[14:36] <Somelauw> How can I change where skype stores my downloads. I googled, but all answers assume that I'm using windows which has a completely different skype user interface.
[14:37] <holstein> Somelauw: i would ask skype support
[14:37] <IdleOne> Somelauw: probably in ~/.skype
[14:38] <helpmeiamnoob> jelly-home,  when i type ls -l what does the first d stand for? the d in drwxrwxrwx
[14:38] <IdleOne> helpmeiamnoob: d = directory
[14:39] <helpmeiamnoob> IdleOne, and first rwx-rwx-rwx are for what i mean one is for us, other two is for whom all? can u gimme the proper order?
[14:40] <IdleOne> first set is for owner, the other two are user and guest
[14:40] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: read this: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[14:40] <helpmeiamnoob> IdleOne, so it's in this order right? owner-otherUser-guest right?
[14:41] <jelly-home> owner, group, other
[14:41] <IdleOne> helpmeiamnoob: if I remember it correctly, read the link jelly-home gave you, it will explain.
[14:41] <jelly-home> IdleOne: there's no "other user" or "guest"
[14:42] <IdleOne> jelly-home: you're right, sorry :)
[14:42] <jelly-home> or, the third set covers permissions for all the processes run not by this user, and not by any user in this group
[14:42] <gaspe1> Attempt #2: Hi, I have a problem dectecting hardware sensors with "lm-sensors / sensors-detect" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619359/
[14:43] <Anomie-Home> Could anyone tell me what directory mysql logs are kept in by default? /var/mysql is empty
[14:43] <gaspe1> Anomie: /var/log/mysql ?
[14:43] <IdleOne> /var/log/
[14:43] <helpmeiamnoob> IdleOne, jelly-home what does group mean there exactly PS: i checked the link
[14:43] <Anomie-Home> That's what I meant sorry, var/log/mysql is empty
[14:44] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Trap is ok ... I just need to test the whole script next time I leave ...
[14:45] <gaspe1> Anomie: sudo dmesg | grep mysqld
[14:45] <Stdedos> jelly-home: how can I assume write rights on a file / make excecutable with terminal again?
[14:46] <JohnD_> is there an online tool which will download some package and all dependencies? My Atheros doesn't work, and I need to download lots of packages, and its dependencies, and so on,  to make it work
[14:46] <holstein> !wget
[14:46] <holstein> !info wget
[14:46] <Anomie-Home> gaspe1: That command doesnt return anything
[14:47] <holstein> JohnD_: ^
[14:47] <Dracco> Hello. I have desktop pc without internet connection and want to upgrade python on it. I downloaded sources on another pc, configured, installed, it shows me python 2.7 binaries, upgraded 2.6 as well from 2.6.5 to 2.6.8, but when i try installing wicd it says that my python version is 2.6.5. Any idea how to make it see changes?
[14:47] <Anomie-Home> gaspe1: My mysql isn't running currently though
[14:47] <Anomie-Home> and it won't start
[14:48] <IdleOne> JohnD_: packages.ubuntu.com will list the dependencies, you will need to download each file separately though.
[14:52] <Stdedos> jelly-home: how can I assume write rights on a file / make excecutable with terminal again?
[14:52] <captine> hi all.  anyone used a blue yeti pro mic and gotten the following when plugging it in?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5619446/
[14:53] <captine> not sure if my computer has a problem with the USB ports?  running 12.04 on acer aspire 4755G
[14:54] <OnyxRaven> Hi, im having a kind of major problem - running dist-upgrade getting Preparing to replace apt 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.7 (using .../apt_0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.10_amd64.deb) ... / ERROR: Can't find the archive-keyring / Is the ubuntu-keyring package installed?
[14:54] <theadmin> OnyxRaven: Well, is it?
[14:55] <OnyxRaven> it says it is
[14:55] <theadmin> OnyxRaven: What Ubuntu version is this?
[14:55] <holstein> captine: pavucontrol is what i would tru
[14:55] <holstein> try*
[14:55] <holstein> !proaudio
[14:56] <OnyxRaven> if i try to apt-get install -f ubuntu-keyring I get 'is already the newest version'
[14:57] <OnyxRaven> this is 12.04
[14:57] <holstein> OnyxRaven: i would try removing the package, upgrading, then reinstalling
[14:57] <gaspe1>  Attempt #3 (last): Hi, I have a problem dectecting hardware sensors with "lm-sensors / sensors-detect" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619359/ my CPU is an AMD A10-5800k
[14:57] <OnyxRaven> removing ubuntu-keyring would remove apt :-/
[14:58] <compdoc> gaspe1, pretty new cpu. it might not be supported
[14:58] <zAo^> gaspe1: maybe 13.04 beta will detect it
[14:58] <compdoc> maybe someday
[14:58] <compdoc> good idea
[14:59] <gaspe1> damn
[14:59] <compdoc> gaspe1, how do you like that cpu otherwise?
[15:00] <OnyxRaven> where is the archive-keyring usually
[15:00] <Stdedos> how can I assume write rights on a file / make excecutable with terminal?
[15:00] <gaspe1> comdoc: ok for the price
[15:00] <compdoc> OnyxRaven, you are using sudo?
[15:01] <OnyxRaven> yeah
[15:01] <Dracco> Hello. I have desktop pc without internet connection and want to upgrade python on it. I downloaded sources on another pc, configured, installed, it shows me python 2.7 binaries, upgraded 2.6 as well from 2.6.5 to 2.6.8, but when i try installing wicd it says that my python version is 2.6.5. Any idea how to make it see changes?
[15:01] <OnyxRaven> i'm actually sudo'd as root
[15:01] <holstein> OnyxRaven: run "sudo apt-get update" ..do you have any errors?
[15:01] <holstein> OnyxRaven: as root?
[15:01] <OnyxRaven> ah yes - no keyring installed at /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
[15:02] <OnyxRaven> (btw this is a bundled ec2 instance that worked last week just fine)
[15:02] <theadmin> Stdedos: chmod. The basic syntax is "chmod u=user_rights,g=group_rights,o=other_rights filename". Those categories you don't need can be left out. The rights are r (read), w (write) and x (execute)
[15:02] <OnyxRaven> on my other, running instances that dir is empty
[15:02] <theadmin> Stdedos: You can read "man chmod" for details.
[15:03] <Stdedos> theadmin: so if I created a file with sudo, I can user chmod u=rw and everything is ok?
[15:03] <Stdedos> theadmin: I tried, but I was confused
[15:03] <gaspe1> compdoc: FM2 motherboard are pricy, but better quality/price ratio than AM3+ socket motherboard
[15:03] <Stdedos> use*
[15:04] <OnyxRaven> what is the ubuntu gpg key hash?  looks like i should be able to import it
[15:04] <gaspe1> compdoc: And I wanted to try Steam Beta
[15:05] <OnyxRaven> is it 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:05] <eitch> hi guys. I've got a weird problem in 12.10. I use the facebook integration in firefox and message always crackle. This is very annoying. I had a similar issue with skype and there i needed to disable a pulseaudio plugin. Anyone know anything?
[15:05] <Stdedos> theadmin: so if I created a file with sudo, I can user chmod u=rw and everything is ok?
[15:05] <Stdedos> theadmin: so if I created a file with sudo, I can use chmod u=rw and everything is ok?
[15:05] <theadmin> Stdedos: You also need to set ownership rights... That's done with chown: chown username:groupname filename
[15:05] <gaspe1> compdoc: I have a Nvidia GTX 660, everything works fine, but I can't read CPU temp, I'm scared it overheat
[15:06] <jelly-home> Stdedos: if you need to execute the file, add the execute permissions.  chmod +x
[15:06] <gaspe1> it's a shame, I have to go back on Win7 -_-
[15:06] <Stdedos> jelly-home: chmod +x or u+x?
[15:07] <gaspe1> chmod 777
[15:07] <compdoc> gaspe1, just look in the bios from time to time. Enable cool&quiet
[15:07] <theadmin> gaspe1: That's always a bad idea.
[15:07] <Stdedos> theadmin: thanks. btw kernel is good and booted ... Compile time: 1h30m
[15:07] <helpmeiamnoob> Stdedos, or u can type chmod 777 or whatever combo 7= 111 (in binary) hence rwx
[15:07] <lalondong> GUYSSSSSS> NEED HELPPPPP>>>>
[15:07] <lalondong> i'm running live-cd right now
[15:07] <lalondong> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:07] <Dracco> Hello. I have desktop pc without internet connection and want to upgrade python on it. I downloaded sources on another pc, configured, installed, it shows me python 2.7 binaries, upgraded 2.6 as well from 2.6.5 to 2.6.8, but when i try installing wicd it says that my python version is 2.6.5. Any idea how to make it see changes?
[15:07] <helpmeiamnoob> lalondong, and?
[15:08] <Stdedos> thanks everyone :)
[15:08] <OnyxRaven> BTW, that fixed my problem - using apt-key to redownload the GPG keys
[15:08] <lalondong> i have unallocated partition, that i've moved and resize with ext4 which where my ubuntu are installed
[15:08] <jelly-home> Stdedos: u+x adds exactly the user executable permissions.  +x is the same as ugo+x
[15:08] <OnyxRaven> i need to add that to my bootstraps
[15:08] <gaspe1> compdoc: I've already changed the minimum CPU RPM, that's all i can do
[15:08] <lalondong> i've swapoff the linux-swap before moving it
[15:08] <compdoc> gaspe1, how hot is it getting after working hard?
[15:09] <lalondong> now the unallocated partition are gone with the ext4
[15:09] <lalondong> shall i swapon the linux-swap again?
[15:09] <gaspe1> 60 - 70C
[15:09] <gaspe1> it reach the "damn its to hot zone" zone
[15:10] <n8w> hey
[15:10] <compdoc> gaspe1, thats hot but its still within specs. how fast does the cpu cooler fan run in rpm?
[15:11] <n8w> whats the magic to make the task scheduler accept the assigned job...whatever i do the OK button stays inactive...cant click it
[15:12] <OnyxRaven> crud, i spoke too soon
[15:12] <OnyxRaven> so I can update now, with the keys installed, but still have an issue with the dist-upgrade
[15:12] <gaspe1> compdoc: I have it to be 600 RPM, minimum cpu fan speed
[15:13] <gaspe1> compdoc: I think lm-sendors, senses something, but the value don't seem to be good
[15:14] <compdoc> gaspe1, no wonder its getting hot. My cpu fans run 2000 to 3000 rpm
[15:14] <gaspe1> compdoc: cpu temp goes between 0 C -to 11 C
[15:15] <Dracco> Seems like noone can help me here :/ well ill try forum, thanks anyway :)
[15:15] <gaspe1> compdoc: I know, that why I'm here :)
[15:19] <gaspe1> compdoc: The only solution left is to run Ubuntu in VirtualBox on Win7
[15:20] <compdoc> gaspe1, are you saynig ubuntu causes the fan to spin at 600rpm?
[15:21] <lalondong> can you guys help me
[15:21] <lalondong> i'm stuck
[15:21] <lalondong> reallly
[15:21] <gaspe1> compdoc: No I changed the Minimum CPU Fan speed from the Bios
[15:21] <OnyxRaven> so here's what i'm getting now http://pastie.org/private/dhngqrviwxrisha9tpj8ba
[15:22] <holstein> !ask | lalondong
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> lalondong: state the issue on one line and see
[15:22] <gaspe1> compdoc: The problem is simple, Ubuntu can't monitor the CPU Temp, so fancontrol can't do his job
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: does the system have a make and model?
[15:22] <Boston65> any help on no sound in 12.04
[15:22] <compdoc> gaspe1, the bios controls the fan speed, not the OS
[15:22] <holstein> !audio | Boston65
[15:23] <Boston65> there is no sound card showing
[15:23] <holstein> Boston65: then, check the bios, and try and test that the hardware is not broken
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> onyxraven: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:23] <holstein> Boston65: is this something that broke? or something that never worked?
[15:24] <Boston65> no works great in windows 8
[15:24] <Boston65> the sound is greyed out on the top bar
[15:25] <holstein> Boston65: ok. so you know the hardware isnt broken.. and you have opened a terminal and run "aplay -l" ?
[15:25] <techxarena> need help
[15:25] <techxarena> my mouse is not working
[15:25] <techxarena> pls
[15:25] <techxarena> help
[15:25] <techxarena> my touchpad is no working, need help!
[15:25] <Boston65> ya just ran it no sound card found
[15:25] <plataoresponde> tete
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> boston65: there is an alsa-info script mentioned on the sound troubleshhoting procedure. run it and upload to the server and a URL will be generated. What is it please
[15:26] <holstein> Boston65: did sound ever work?
[15:26] <gaspe1> compdoc: So what's the use of Fancontrol? I tought it was the OS that was monitoring the CPU temp.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> techxarena: does the system have a make and model?
[15:26] <Boston65> no neber worked
[15:26] <`aL> hi I have a laptop with ubuntu v7.x and it does not show any menu at all how can I make the menu appear please ?
[15:26] <Abu> how do i unistall sd card reader module
[15:26] <Boston65> never worked
[15:27] <gaspe1> compdoc: I know the Bios have a Automatic shudown if the CPU temp is out of control
[15:27] <Abu> i keep getting mmc0: got data interrupts
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> `al: ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 are both no longer supported in any way
[15:28] <captine> anyone on 12.04 get this when plugging in a usb microphone?  usb 3-1: Not enough bandwidth for altsetting 1
[15:28] <holstein> captine: no. does the device work?
[15:28] <captine> yes
[15:28] <holstein> captine: i wouldnt worry about the message then
[15:28] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Not sure to understand ?
[15:29] <Boston65> ActionParsnip: is that script on the Ubuntu site?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> boston65: run the sound info script. it will tell us a lot
[15:29] <captine> holstein, works on macbook.  got it working on my other USB ports after struggling a bit, but seems my video camera causes issues.  it is not working  now in the port it is in
[15:29] <compdoc> gaspe1, you set a target temp in the bios, and what speed the fan should run when it reaches that temp. so say you want to keep the cpu at 45c, the fan should run at full speed at that temp
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> boston65: its step 5 on the ubuntu sound troubleshooting procedure page
[15:29] <captine> holstein, if i plug into my usb 1 ports, i get this...  cannot get ctl value: req = 0x83, wValue = 0x200, wIndex = 0xb00, type = 4
[15:29] <Boston65> OK
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: is the system a laptop?
[15:30] <holstein> captine: i say, if its working, dont worry about the messages
[15:30] <mtadyshak> I want a shell script to spawn another terminal window and then start minicom in that window.  How would I do that?  The command terminal or Terminal is not recognized.  How would I control to which window subsequent commands would be executed?
[15:30] <captine> holstein, it's a bule yeti pro
[15:30] <captine> *blue
[15:30] <holstein> captine: cool.. and its working fine? if so, just ignore the messages
[15:30] <captine> holstein, it works intermitantly on the usb1 ports... its the intermittant that is bothering me
[15:30] <theadmin> mtadyshak: gnome-terminal -e command
[15:30] <captine> holstein, it is not working now
[15:31] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Nope, it's a custom made tower
[15:31] <holstein> !audio | captine
[15:31] <holstein> !proaudio | captine
[15:31] <captine> holstein, thanks.  will check those out.  did the first one already.  perhaps the pro link will help
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: what CPU and GPU do you use?
[15:32] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: CPU (AMD A10-5800k) GPU (Nvidia GTX 660)
[15:32] <Stdedos> theadmin: jelly-home how can I pass an argument to a script through terminal?
[15:32] <Dougie187> For some reason I just started getting this error with svn. "svn: E200029: Couldn't perform atomic initialization" Any ideas?
[15:33] <holstein> captine: i find alsa and kernel versions are usually what make or break audio support.. also, you can try the irq settings for USB
[15:33] <bryguy_> using 12.10 with firefox, when I visit certain flash heavy sites my hard drive starts writing every second or so until I leave the site. My computer is otherwise silent most of the time but this is pretty noisy and annoying, any idea what's happening there or if there's something that can be done to stop it?
[15:33] <holstein> captine: you can unplug *all* other usb hardware.. dont use a hub.. check cat /proc/interrupts
[15:34] <bryguy_> I'm considering trying to do /tmp in ramdisk which might help but if there's a simpler solution I'd like to know
[15:34] <theadmin> bryguy_: Flash is Flash, but your solution makes sense.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: YourvCPU seems to have a GPU in it as well. You may have issues with a Raden GPU as well as the Nvidia
[15:34] <captine> holstein, i will check the irq.  i suspect that is the issue ...
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: have you tried other browsers?
[15:35] <Boston65> whats the link to that sound trouble shooting page? New to all this
[15:35] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I had, but I fixed it
[15:35] <holstein> !audio | Boston65
[15:35] <Stdedos> theadmin: jelly-home how can I pass an argument to a script through terminal?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> boston65: cant you find it online?
[15:36] <theadmin> Stdedos: Repeating often, especially if your message contains someone's nicknames, is a bad idea.
[15:36] <Boston65> no went to a bunch of sites, no step 5
[15:36] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: I installed Steam and was able to play Counter Strike Source
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> boston65: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:36] <Stdedos> Mechanically while trying to figure out other things, sorry
[15:36] <Stdedos> how can I pass an argument to a script through terminal?
[15:36] <theadmin> Stdedos: Can you elaborate? You can't change arguments of something already running. If you simply want to start a script with arguments, you can just use /path/to/script arg1 arg2 arg3...
[15:37] <bryguy_> ActionParsnip: I prefer to use free browsers so I've avoided chrome. I used to use seamonkey but I haven't tried that, don't know if it even exists any longer
[15:37] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: I have Compiz installed, which works fine
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> boston65: all I searched for wad: ubuntu sound troubleshooting procedure.     which are the exact words I said to you earlier
[15:38] <Stdedos> theadmin: I want to run a .sh file which will call for another .sh file, different each time
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: tried with xfce4?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: try chromium......
[15:38] <Stdedos> how can I reffer to those arguments?
[15:38] <Stdedos> theadmin: how can I reffer to those arguments?*
[15:38] <high-rez> Is anyone else having problems with massive packetloss to us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[15:38] <jelly-home> Stdedos: "$1", "$2", ...
[15:38] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Why I would do that?
[15:38] <captine> holstein, weird thing is the mic has a monitor so it acts as speakers if you put your headphones in it.... the audio out works perfectly..  audio in (which is the whole point of the mic), is not working
[15:39] <Stdedos> nice, thanks again ;)
[15:39] <bryguy_> apt-get chromium fails, do I need to install manually?
[15:39] <holstein> captine: i would check pavucontrol ..
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: you do realize that the file extension tells you nothing of a file in linux...
[15:39] <GraalUbuntu> Could someone assist me with an error I am receiving on Ubuntu? "bash: ./Graal: cannot execute binary file"
[15:39] <theadmin> Stdedos: Apps from $0 to $infinity, $0 being the file name of the script and all the others being the actual arguments.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: chromium isnt an option of apt-get
[15:39] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I do, but I am making the files, plus I sense .sh is widespread as script
[15:39] <theadmin> Stdedos: Err, not apps, variables, sorry
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[15:40] <Stdedos> theadmin: and then, strings as arguments?
[15:40] <bryguy_> ActionParsnip: lol ok that makes sense i guess
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: you can rename an image to .sh and the OS will still see an image file
[15:40] <theadmin> Stdedos: Yeah. Well, bash doesn't really have datatypes.
[15:41] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: lol didn't know that
[15:41] <jelly-home> Stdedos: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Parameters
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: you could have also searched software centre
[15:41] <Stdedos> theadmin: can I echo ******** >> $document
[15:41] <Stdedos> ?
[15:42] <ronalds> hello
[15:42] <Stdedos> theadmin: (stars as string)
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: so how does saying its an "sh file" tell us anything....is my point
[15:42] <theadmin> Stdedos: Sure.
[15:42] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I am praising on some common sense
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: if you pass arguments to the script, you can perform logic on the value passed and make the script behave differently
[15:43] <theadmin> Stdedos: long as $document is a defined variable.
[15:43] <bryguy_> ActionParsnip I tried "chromium" in bash and usually it tells you what package you want, the binary is called chromium-browser too, it's just a weird convention
[15:43] <GraalUbuntu>  Could someone assist me with an error I am receiving on Ubuntu? "bash: ./Graal: cannot execute binary file"
[15:43] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I just keep log of some timing on commands, and I want to automate the process, since I am getting the ropes on bash scripts
[15:44] <bryguy_> GraalUbuntu: what do you get from ls -l ./Graal
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: not really. chrome is a game :)
[15:44] <baldfat> So I am having issues with XOrg that well I just can't spend the time to fix. I switch from opensource to AMD propietary and well it's to much work. I am thinking of just doing A) wipe out the / partition or B) remove all the PPA and try to chase the originals
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> graalUbuntu: what is the output of: file ./Graal; uname -a
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: #bash may help too
[15:47] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> baldfat: Ati drivers are in the ubuntu repos
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: its the bash irc channel.....its here on freenode
[15:48] <baldfat> ActionParsnip: I know but I had some sstuff in ppa to handle a few things
[15:48] <TechieOfficer> anyone know of any good books on Linux Administration? I mainly want to learn to use the Terminal effectivly
[15:48] <captine> holstein, thanks, checked that.  played music using the headphone out of the mic and used audacity.  am able to pipe the monitor of the mic into audacity and record whatever the computer is outputting, however, there is nothing recorded when i change my recording input from the monitor of the mic to the actual mic...
[15:49] <GraalUbuntu> ActionParsnip: Did my message get to you?
[15:49] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: with psensor CPU usage just shows one(1) core, A10 has four(4) cores
[15:49] <holstein> captine: changing routing with pavucontrol?
[15:49] <captine> holstein, yes
[15:49] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip~AndChat35ubuntu/member/actionparsnip: Oh, I see
[15:49] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: i dont follow....
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: do you have the latest BIOS?
[15:50] <n00b> good afternoon
[15:50] <Exilepilot> >tfw you've executed: apt-get install open-jdk*, was it wise?
[15:50] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I understood what you said to me ,, but I used shift-tab to autocomplete you, and it expanded your domain
[15:50] <Guest26330> i need a good lightweight musicplayer
[15:51] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Yes I do
[15:51] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: Only book that is a good overall IMHO https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Mark_G_Sobell_A_Practical_Guide_to_Linux_Commands_?id=xplXdW9R6QoC&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImJvb2steHBsWGRXOVI2UW9DIl0.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: i have a member cloak ;-)
[15:51] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: Seem told you
[15:51] <Stdedos> See,
[15:51] <holstein> captine: that is not "intermittent" though.. what you are getting makes me think its a routing issue.. double check the routing.. try something simpler than audacity
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> guest26330: deadbeef :-)
[15:52] <baldfat> Guest21051: I love cmus
[15:52] <mshake> hi
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> guest26330: audacity
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> sorry audacious
[15:52] <captine> holstein, plugged it into the usb while talking.  can see the levels picking up the mic input for a few seconds, then stops and doing dmesg, i get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5619596/
[15:52] <baldfat> I think the commandline music tools are amazing
[15:52] <mshake> when i try to update it says  it require the installation of untrusted packages
[15:53] <mshake> what is that
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> baldfat: Sorry! Books on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> We're working to bring the content you love to more countries as quickly as possible.
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> Please check back again soon.
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> baldfat: wats the name of the book?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> mshake: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> whats*
[15:53] <mshake> i'm using the GUI thingy
[15:53] <holstein> captine: what would i do? try live CD's.. i would want different alsa and kernel versions.. the live CD's are the easiest way for me to do that and not break my current setup
[15:53] <theadmin> TechieOfficer: Can't you tell from the URL? "A practical guide to Linux commands". doh.
[15:54] <llutz> TechieOfficer: "Practical Guide to Linux Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming by Mark G Sobell"
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mshake: sounds like you added a PPA incorrectly
[15:54] <captine> holstein, thanks.  perhaps i have broken something... :)
[15:54] <captine> maybe i will try upgrade to 12.10
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mshake: close software centre and use a terminal
[15:54] <TechieOfficer> llutz: Thank you
[15:55] <mshake> can it be MIM
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> mshake: what is MIM?
[15:55] <mshake> man is the middle attack ?
[15:56] <mshake> i can't use  the terminal from a user account
[15:56] <llutz> mshake: you're missing some repo apt-keys
[15:56] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: http://www.sobell.com/CMDREF1/index.html
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> mshake: sure you can. just press CTRL + ALT + T
[15:57] <mshake> is using synpatic will make anydiffrence ?
[15:57] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: It is available as a Kindle version but I like Google Books since you can download the epub or df :) Or else you can get it free if you don't have a conscience :)
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> mshake: the GUI apps dont give enough detail. they are convenient but not useful if thete are issues
[15:58] <DreadCapt> I'm trying to create a apple_bootstrap partition but I can't seem to make that happen.
[15:59] <mshake> not working
[15:59] <mshake> the terminal command isn't accepting the sudo password
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mshake: close all GUI package apps, open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get update
[15:59] <DreadCapt> My goal is to format a usb so that I can install lubuntu onto a powerbook g4
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mshake: it is accepting the password. you just get no feedback
[15:59] <Rajvi> Hi All, Not able to connect to wired internet
[15:59] <holstein> !ppc | DreadCapt
[15:59] <Rajvi> A newbie here
[16:00] <holstein> DreadCapt: i would just try a CD.. i dont think apple's boot usb
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mshake: copy the whole output and go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste there
[16:00] <mshake> it's not accepting the sudo password !!
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mshake: jyst type as if it was. it is going in
[16:01] <DreadCapt> holstein, i eventually end up https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/powerpc/boot-usb-files.html from that faq the instructions only say "create a partition of type apple_bootstrap" and it says nothing as to how
[16:01] <mshake> i'm running from a normal user acc will that make a diffrence ?
[16:01] <holstein> DreadCapt: you can try and find http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html for ppc, or something like it
[16:01] <holstein> DreadCapt: why can you not boot a CD?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> mshake: yes, everybody else does too. that's why sudo exists
[16:02] <Rajvi> How to connect to interent .. if ur ISP has a web dialer?
[16:02] <holstein> !dialup
[16:02] <DreadCapt> holstein, cuz i dont have any cds
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !adsl | rajvi
[16:03] <holstein> DreadCapt: i would go get some CD's.. that would be easiest..
[16:03] <crf> hi my screen keeps going to black after a couple of minutes. How do I lengthen this time?
[16:03] <mshake> i just tried it it work on the  GUI thing  but not in tha terminal
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> mshake: did the sudo apt-get update now run okn
[16:03] <Rajvi> This is complicated
[16:03] <DreadCapt> holstein, thanks
[16:04] <Rajvi> For a friend, not me
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> mshake: try: gksudo apt-get update
[16:04] <crf> Actually, it seems to go black after about 12 seconds.
[16:04] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: The heck is the point of running a CLI app with gksudo?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: not really. you use network manager
[16:05] <Rajvi> In win.. I have a wb dialer.. Wuould it work if i enter the credendials in Modem Config??
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: pretty pass input box with input feedback is nice to have
[16:05] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: No, it's gross and insecure
[16:05] <holstein> Rajvi: you'll need those credentials.. i would just try it.. dialup support is "on the way out" in most operating systems these days
[16:05] <theadmin> That's just my opinion though, eh.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: maybe. but the user is having issue without the feedback so it makes sensee
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: insecure is debatable
[16:06] <gnuBash> Hello, guys. I have the following problem: I create pseudo terminal and run the following code: pty[this is the pseudo terminal code] sh. In this way I run the shell but it echoes every command I type (for example if I type "ls" I receive "ls and all the directories". When I run with "-e" parameter it doesn't echo and works fine. But when I run "pty -e /bin/bash" it is the same situation. Any ideas?
[16:07] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: People behind your back can tell the length of your password easily, allowing them to guess the password. If the length matches your name, the password might be your name. If the length is 8, 6, 4 or 2 it can be variations of your birthdate. etc.
[16:07] <lalondong> i need to ask
[16:07] <lalondong> Move /dev/sda6 to the right and shrink it from 20.95 GiB to 1.85 GiB   Error
[16:07] <|nv|s|b|e> shoot
[16:07] <mshake> i ran this from the admin account by loggin in there it worked  this the result  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619643/   + it said there was a problem detected and it reported it
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: knowing length doesnt make it insecure. using sudo people may not see the length butvthey can hear how many keypresses you make
[16:08] <|nv|s|b|e> i always look around before i enter my pswrd
[16:08] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Heh, guess so. Well let's not debate my odd paranoia.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: also using GUI apps needing root should use gksudo so are they insecure too....
[16:09] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I'm usually cautious of GUI apps asking for root rights unless it's those found in the base Ubuntu install or gparted.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> mshake: can you pastebin the last few lines. the command hadnt completed
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: but they use gksudo so people can see pass length. which is bad according too you. chill pill?
[16:11] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I don't know what a chill pill is, but again, I already suggested we not drive too much offtopic. So please let's not.
[16:12] <Exilepilot> YAY
[16:12] <Exilepilot> openjdk* has installed
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: fine but remeber, just because you dislike something doesnt make it bad
[16:12] <Exilepilot> ;0
[16:13] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Guess so, sorry.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: no harm done :)
[16:14] <TechieOfficer> baldfat: would there be any way to get around the country restriction? I dont understand how Puerto Rico isn't allowed to buy books
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> mshake: what is the full output of the command please. the command hasnt finished til you get the prompt back
[16:15] <theadmin> TechieOfficer: Copyright stuff like that is illegal to "get around".
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> crf: does the system have a make and model?
[16:18] <mshake> didn't understand
[16:19] <mshake> that what was  in the output
[16:19] <Guest60093> Hey can any one help my graphics card (ati readon 4500hd) and i really need the GPU to work because VMplayer sucks without it
[16:21] <theadmin> Guest60093: sudo apt-get install fglrx and reboot.
[16:21] <mshake> that was the full output of the command after it finished it told me that there was an error i pressed report
[16:22] <Guest60093> theadmin: fglrx tell me that i have a non compatible something and that i should run aticonfig
[16:22] <theadmin> Guest60093: Well you should, run "sudo aticonfig --initial".