[03:19] <zoi84> T1: -i option in sudo is: The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.  The command name argument given to the shell begins with a `-' to tell the shell to run as a login shell.  sudo attempts to change to that user's home directory before
[03:19] <zoi84>  running the shell.  It aso initializes the environment, leaving TERM unchanged, setting HOME, SHELeL, USER, LOGNAME, and PATH, and unsetting all other environment variables.  Note that because the shell to use is determined before the sudoers file is parsed, a runas_default setting in sudoers will specify the user to run the shell as but will not affect which shell is actually run.
[03:19] <Kuwanger> Sune: I hope so.  I'd agree with bastid_raZor about it and vmware being similar.  Although, I'd say that holds true with vmware workstation and virtualbox.  I didn't use vmware server long enough to really get the hang of it.
[03:19] <Ltl> T1: read man sudo, the explanation is lengthy. sudo command will work.
[03:19] <cvd-pr> Ubuntu_noob890,  use windows
[03:19] <mkeith> can someone help me with a problem getting my 26inch flat screen to work in ubuntu 8.10?
[03:19] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH> zoi84: yes i have open ssh installed and it is running. I even hit the server because of the auth.log files records. This is the error I get --> reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for smm-tx-cmts1.grandecom.net [<IP_ADDRESS>] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[03:19] <jtisme> randal  remote to a windows box?
[03:19] <n8tuser> Jpdota-> what happens when other hosts attempts to resolve the xp address when the zone gives .100  but the actual address is .43 ? did you test this?
[03:19] <Ubuntu_noob890> cvd-pr: lol, but experimenting with linux is fun
[03:19] <mk123> Ubuntu_noob890: i'll help you until someone else comes along
[03:19] <linny1> hi i seem to have lost a directory somwhere in 1000s of iles and folders is there a command i can use to search for a dir named 'tutorials' thx in advance
[03:20] <Jpdota> n8tuser: yes, it resolves correctly
[03:20] <Kuwanger> Sune: Hmm..and I was wrong about the latest version.  Virtualbox 2.1.0 came out December 17.
[03:20] <cvd-pr> Ubuntu_noob890,  :-), sorry iḿ drunk
[03:20] <Jpdota> n8tuser: as i said, things are kept in the journal before being moved into the zone file
[03:20] <jtisme> linny1,   cd /   find . -name 'tutor*' -print
[03:20] <Sune> Kuwanger: well it's the 19th, so that's recent isn't it?
[03:20] <phorensic> !x
[03:20] <Jpdota> n8tuser: the update mechanism is fine, it's something with ubuntu
[03:20] <n8tuser> Jpdota-> and how long is the transfer from journal to the zone file? how often?
[03:20] <incubii> I installed virtualbox 2.1 yesterday, works good for me
[03:20] <zoi84> LSbTJzgefXMjGRH: do you have fail2ban or denyhosts installed
[03:20] <jtisme> cvd-pr, what's uh drinkin
[03:21] <cvd-pr> jtisme,  Finlandia + orange juice
[03:21] <Jpdota> n8tuser: i'm not sure, i've only seen it transfer when bind is started, but that's sort of irrelevant, as that part works correctly, except for with ubuntu
[03:21] <Sune> Kuwnager: This may sound stupid, but..where did it just go after I installed it? I can't find a run app
[03:21] <Kuwanger> Sune: True.  New versions have been coming out nearly monthly.  Except for fixing a few glitches, I haven't really noticed many differences since v1.5.6, actually.  But, I haven't tried taking advantage of the newer features.
[03:22] <bastid_raZor> Sune; probably applications>system tools
[03:22] <jtisme> cvd-pr, wouldnt want yuh head in the mornin
[03:22] <zoi84> LSbTJzgefXMjGRH: also do you have a firewall enabled and configured?
[03:22] <randal> jtisme: no to my friends house
[03:22] <incubii> Sune, VirtualBox installs under Accessories
[03:22] <n8tuser> Jpdota-> so if I understand your explanation, the bind9 doles out the address from the journal and not from the zone file?
[03:22] <randal> jtisme: i want to help my friend on his computer
[03:22] <Sune> It's not hiding under either bastid_raZor incubii
[03:22] <Sune> :D
[03:22] <Sune> D:*
[03:22] <jtisme> randal, but to a windows or linux machine at your friends house
[03:23] <cvd-pr>  jtisme , i dont understan you, inglish is not my primary language
[03:23] <mac128k1984> Hi I have what most likely is a stupid question
[03:23] <Jpdota> n8tuser: it's a combination of both, it doesn't matter though, as that works correctly
[03:23] <incubii> Sune, could be your menu has just not refreshed yet
[03:23] <genii> Kuwanger: ciso looks promising
[03:23] <bastid_raZor> Sune; i don't remember if it created an icon for itself or not. at one point i had to make my own additions to the menu.
[03:23] <Bliz1> so, whats with the eee pc saying i got 2 processors ?
[03:23] <Sune> incubii is there a refresh menu console command?
[03:23] <jtisme> cvd-pr, it ain't mine ether
[03:24] <snake> jtisme: cant you just tell me the exact command to try please. i cant find it in man
[03:24] <Kuwanger> Sune: sudo update-menus
[03:24] <mac128k1984> I've put standard ubuntu on a EEE and i'm looking to see if there is a package for the laptop preferences like the quick keys and closing the lid
[03:24] <cvd-pr> jtisme,  spanish mine
[03:24] <Sune> Kuwanger no dice D:
[03:24] <jtisme> snake   cd /; find . -name 'tutor*' -print  should do it
[03:24] <Sune> I'll see if I can try and add it
[03:24] <jtisme> cvd-pr, russian  rusky
[03:25] <Kuwanger> Sune: It didn't run or you don't see a new icon?
[03:25] <T1> Ltl: i typed sudo -i at the prompt how do i get back to normal promot
[03:25] <Guest18134> any advanced users that have way too much patience have the time to help out with a driver compiling and install
[03:25] <cvd-pr> jtisme,  :-S
[03:25] <Ltl> T1: exit
[03:25] <incubii> T1, type 'exit'
[03:25] <Sune> kuwanger: The .deb just finished installing, and I don't see any new icon
[03:25] <jtisme> snake  exactly as i typed it on one line
[03:25] <ubuntu008> A~/quit
[03:25] <linny> how do i make the find command list dir as well as files
[03:25] <cvd-pr> jtisme,  russian girls are hot!
[03:26] <Pingyou> hello everyone/
[03:26] <keithclark> Hey everyone, I'm on Hardy here and I can't seem to get Compiz working.  I've tried the System, Preferences, Appearances route and it did not work
[03:26] <Kuwanger> Sune: Odd.  Not sure where it is.
[03:26] <snake> jtisme: ok. it doesnt work for me neither. i tried dosfsck
[03:26] <snake> Contains a free cluster (2928278). Assuming EOF.
[03:26] <snake> FAT32 root dir starts with a bad cluster!
[03:26] <linny> i seem to have lost a DIR named tutorials somwhere in my filesystem is there a command i can use to find it ?
[03:27] <jtisme> linny,  find by default lists every file/dir that matches expression
[03:27] <n8tuser> Jpdota-> am curious, can you try my dhclient.conf   for your ubuntu?  join me at #n8tuser so i dont flood
[03:27] <Sune> Kuwanger: I'll reinstall, and watch the console this time for where it went
[03:27] <Jpdota> n8tuser: sure
[03:27] <linny> jtisme: hmm its only listing files ?
[03:27] <T1> Ltl: when i just type the command sudo and instll the program in my home folder i get the error "cannot create files" does that mean i have to change my write permissions on my home folder ?
[03:27] <bastid_raZor> Sune; no need to do that.. it is there just not showing itself in the menu.
[03:28] <Kuwanger> Sune: You should be able to run "which virtualbox" or "which Virtualbox" from console to find at least where the program went.
[03:28] <Pingyou> Hey is there anyway to skip around the kernal update so i can stay at 8.04 and not upgrade any further, so far i have no upgraded my ubuntu yet and i like 8.04 hardy, but i would still like the applications etc. to be upgraded.
[03:28] <jtisme> snake sorry i am answering the wrong question i crossed u up w/someone else hold on let me look up fsck on alt super block
[03:28] <keithclark> Any ideas how to fix?
[03:28] <incubii> Does the ntfs-3g tools allow me to format a partition as NTFS? GParted does not allow me to do this and i dont really want a 500gb FAT32 external drive
[03:28] <jtisme> snake, first of all are we talking about a Windows file system or a Linux fs?
[03:28] <Ltl> T1: the syntax is: sudo 'command' enter password, and it's done.
[03:28] <mljohns4> I was curious if someone would be able to point me towards any information detailing how to install the UbuntuStudio theme on a Gentoo box, or where to download the latest UbuntuStudio theme
[03:28] <Ltl> T1: no quotes
[03:29] <bastid_raZor> Sune; /usr/bin/VirtualBox is where the binary is
[03:29] <Pingyou> Hey is there anyway to skip around the kernal update so i can stay at 8.04 and not upgrade any further, so far i have no upgraded my ubuntu yet and i like 8.04 hardy, but i would still like the applications etc. to be upgraded.
[03:29] <cvd-pr> Pingyou,  well doont update thenkernels
[03:29] <Xeroz> hey
[03:29] <Kuwanger> genii: I've been googling for ciso, but I can't seem to find information on it.
[03:29] <Sune> bastiz_razor the package installer's included files go to usr/share/virtualbox
[03:29] <Pingyou> well in the update manager i dont know what the kernals are named or is it like linux headers ,etc..etc..
[03:29] <genii> Kuwanger: I'm testing it right now, it has 9 compression levels and saves as type cso
[03:29] <snake> jtisme: yes. i resized a FAT32 of my external HD and changed the label of it. after reboot i got that message
[03:29] <incubii> Pingyou, they should be linux-image-xxxxx
[03:29] <Ltl> T1: do not change filesystem permissions without a very good reason.
[03:30] <Xeroz> so I used startupmanager to try to change my Usplash in Ubuntu 8.10
[03:30] <Pingyou> all named linux-image ????
[03:30] <cvd-pr> Pingyou,  yes headers etc...
[03:30] <incubii> Pingyou, yes
[03:30] <Xeroz> but it erased all my boot enteries in GRUB
[03:30] <T1> Ltl: i typed sudo sh ./thinkorswim_installer.sh and i am having trouble installing to my home directory
[03:30] <Pingyou> so just uncheck the linux image updates.
[03:30] <jtisme> Pingyou, upgrading the kernel does not mean you are upgrading to 8.10
[03:30] <kirtis> Pingyou: You can enable the backports repository, which will give you some updated applications
[03:30] <cvd-pr> Pingyou,  linux image
[03:30] <incubii> Pingyou, as long as you applications don't rely on new features in newer kernels you dont need to update the kernel
[03:30] <Pingyou> Ok.
[03:31] <n8tuser> Jpdota  did you try yet, what i suggested?  using different ip address range in your dhcp server? just to ensure every host will get a new ip address when they re-request
[03:31] <bastid_raZor> Sune; right that isn't where the binary is though. that is where it stores information about vbox itself and the images you have.
[03:31] <kirtis> Pingyou: But there's no easy way to just updated all the applications but not the kernel when you're upgrading.  you'd basically have to do the upgrade all yourself to accomplish that.
[03:31] <incubii> Pingyou, why change the engine when you just want to get flashier wheels :)
[03:31] <Xeroz> so even though I can't get in my linux kernel how can I know what boot entrie I can use to be able to access Ubuntu
[03:31] <Fiberchunks> howdy ... have any of you folks installed python 2.6 side-by-side with python 2.5 in ubuntu 8.04?
[03:31] <Sune> bastid_razor : right
[03:31] <n8tuser> Jpdota and then test the name resolution right away to see how fast the new address gets resolved
[03:31] <jtisme> snake i dont work much with windows so i cant answer that i dont know if windows fs has alt super blocks etc. sorry for the confusion ask your question again and specify that the FS is Windows in the question
[03:31] <randal> jtisme: he has a limux mechine how do i connect to it
[03:32] <Sune> bastid_razor : checking usr/bin
[03:32] <Ltl> T1: is the file execetable? chmod 755 thinkorswim-blah, then install.
[03:32] <Pingyou> because 8.04 works for me. and 8.10 will not allow me to enable my nvidia cards. lol
[03:32] <randal> jtisme: sorry i took so long to respwn i was on phone
[03:32] <Pingyou> so i just went back to 804
[03:32] <Jpdota> n8tuser: well it's still not working so i can't test how fast it resolves :P
[03:32] <Pingyou> anyways im off
[03:32] <Ltl> T1: executable rather.
[03:32] <cvd-pr> any girl here?
[03:32] <Pingyou> Bye, thanks for help.
[03:32] <jtisme> randal, ssh it the fastest and simplest
[03:32] <genii> Kuwanger: The info factoid reports it as for converting PSP cd images to iso, but it can be used to compress or decompress any iso file back and forth to cso format
[03:32] <Stargazer> What's the minimum install size of ubuntu ? (if i were not to allocate 'x'gB of space, how much would it take)
[03:32] <snake> jtisme: ok thank you
[03:32] <randal> jtisme: whats ssh plz tell me how to do it
[03:32] <n8tuser> Jpdota what is not working? the other hosts are not able to acquire a new ip addresses?  leave theubunt alone for now,
[03:33] <incubii> Stargazer, i think its around 2gb ?
[03:33] <jtisme> randal, how new to linux are u
[03:33] <snake>  i cant mount my external HD. it says : mount : cant read super block. when i try dosfsck it says : root dir starts with a bad cluster. anyone that can help ? thank you
[03:33] <Jpdota> n8tuser: the ubuntu computer is the only one not working
[03:33] <randal> a year
[03:33] <randal> jtisme:  a year
[03:33] <randal> jtisme: i dont know how to use ssh do i download a programm
[03:33] <Xeroz> ok. how can I look at the files in my root partition even though I am in windows?
[03:33] <jtisme> snake is dealing with a windows  fs here folks can anyone help him
[03:33] <Jpdota> n8tuser: the other computers resolve each other fine, and the ubuntu computer can resolve them fine ubuntu itself is not resolved though
[03:33] <n8tuser> Jpdota yeah but, id rather you confirm that the update is really quick and also the name server resolver cache is cleared
[03:34] <T1> Ltl: i typed chmod 755 thinkorswim-blah and i get the error chmod: cannot access `thinkorswim-blah': No such file or directory
[03:34] <cvd-pr> remember, everyday is the year of linux!
[03:34] <randal> jtisme: is it called clusterssh
[03:34] <Jpdota> n8tuser: we already did that, it updates fine
[03:34] <keithclark> Ok, is there a better place to ask this question?
[03:34] <jtisme> randal, yes  apt-get install openssh-server on both machines  as  root  (sudo)
[03:34] <n8tuser> Jpdota you have not confirmed yet to me, you have cleared the name server cache
[03:34] <Ltl> T1: is the file in your present directory?
[03:34] <snake> jtisme: thank you. i am just getting crazy because i cant loose what i have inside. i have some really important things so please anyone
[03:34] <T1> Ltl: yes
[03:34] <randal> jti
[03:35] <Sune> bastid_razor : brb reboot
[03:35] <randal> jtisme:  ok ill do that right now hold on
[03:35] <Jpdota> n8tuser: i changed the IP of the xp box, and pinged it from ubuntu and the server right after that
[03:35] <n8tuser> Jpdota you said the journal had .100 but the zone file had .43 so its not same noh?
[03:35] <Xeroz> Is there a reccommenened program to use to access the EXT3 partitions?
[03:35] <jtisme> randal, then you have the problem of his or your IP address changing due to obtaining them via DHCP
[03:35] <Ltl> T1: must be a typo, use tab completion.
[03:35] <genii> Kuwanger: Hmm. the cso file cannot loopmount with iso9660 specified.
[03:35] <snake> by the way the external HD is divided in 2 partitions. one of them works perfectly. the other one is the problem
[03:35] <T1> Ltl: the file is in my desktop called thinkorswim_installer.sh
[03:35] <Kuwanger> genii: That doesn't surprise me.
[03:35] <randal> jtisme: how do i fix it
[03:35] <jtisme> randal, then you have to know how to open up port 22 on both of your modems and routers to access
[03:35] <Jpdota> n8tuser: the journal is unreadable, but the zone file had .100 and it resolved correctly to .43, it doesn't matter about taht it doesn't work
[03:36] <jtisme> each others machines etc. etc. etc.
[03:36] <T1> Ltl: not sure what u mean by tab completion
[03:36] <Jpdota> n8tuser: ubuntu is the problem, not the server setup
[03:36] <Ltl> T1: I like to mv the file  from Desktop to /home/user, then use it
[03:37] <incubii> anyone got a remedy for X-Chats screen lag ?
[03:37] <n8tuser> Jpdota-> i seriously doubt it, the other hosts querries the bind9 and it doles out stale or invalid address, but thats not coming from ubuntu , its coming from your dhcp server
[03:37] <jtisme> randal, if you dont have a static ip then i believe there is some dns thingy you can use ask in this channel about that
[03:37] <Jpdota> n8tuser: queries to bind9 work correctly
[03:37] <Ltl> T1: type cd ; mv Desktop/thinkorswim_installer.sh ..
[03:37] <Jpdota> n8tuser: ubuntu is the ONLY thing that doesn't resolve
[03:38] <Xeroz> sweet!
[03:38] <jtisme> randal, before installing  openssh  execute   apt-get update
[03:38] <Ltl> T1: is should be in /home/username after that.
[03:38] <Xeroz> it actually backed up the Ubuntu Boot Directories
[03:38] <randal> jti toolate
[03:38] <Xeroz> now................... how do I copy them into the boot partition
[03:38] <n8tuser> jpdota i dont know what to tell yah, its the dhcp feeding the bind9  so ubuntu is sort of out of the picture
[03:39] <Ltl> !tab | t1
[03:39] <Jpdota> n8tuser: ubuntu feeds dhcp it's hostname and domain somehow, so it's probably not giving it the correct information
[03:39] <CarlFK> trying to debug a apt-proxy problem - did ibex start using Packages.bz2 instead of Packages.gz ?
[03:39] <Aeonis> There is noone in the Audacity room.  Anyone here know anything about that program?
[03:39] <randal> jtisme:  im not opening ports on my router is it imposible then
[03:40] <raylu> Aeonis: ask a more specific question please
[03:40] <Ltl> T1: type the first few characters and hit tab, if the fir or dir exists it will auto complete. saves typing.
[03:40] <n8tuser> Jpdota-> well you can use sniffer or tcpdump to really see what ubuntu feeds the dhcp server during ARP request
[03:40] <jtisme> randal, cant say for sure google for  remote linux access and see what comes up
[03:41] <T1> Ltl: ok i've done that now when i type  sudo sh ./thinkorswim_installer.sh it launches the installer and i speficiy the path /home/vyson as the installation path and i get the error "cannot create file"
[03:41] <Aeonis> Awesome raylu.  Well, I can record the first time to test my input.  After that, I try to record again after making some changes and I get this error message:  "error while opening sound device. please check the input device settings and the project sample rate."
[03:41] <Jpdota> n8tuser: restarting be right back
[03:41] <Jpdota> exit
[03:41] <Jpdota> oops
[03:42] <omshanti> I am running smacpack as root and it works but the sound is really messed up i don't know how to described it but it's like someone chopped it up.  any clues as to how to fix it?
[03:42] <logicport> help
[03:42] <raylu> randal: no, but very difficult
[03:42] <Ltl> T1: try not using the sh part
[03:42] <raylu> Aeonis: no idea. may want to look into disabling pulseaudio
[03:42] <logicport>  ubuntu screwed everything up!!!!! Auto update was updating and my system crashed at the same time
[03:43] <logicport> when i login, most things load but gnome seems to take a while loading some icons on the nav bars, then conky takes ages to load, and my wifi doesnt even pop up! Firefox thinks its a fresh installation everytime i load it, everythings pretty fooked!
[03:43] <logicport>  i can show list of error reports if i knew where to find them
[03:43] <Ltl> T1: the program may need to install in the filesystem, try /usr/local/  as target.
[03:44] <T1> Ltl: /usr/local doesn't have write access though
[03:44] <gizmo> hai
[03:44] <logicport> anybodyy?
[03:44] <gizmo> i want to ask..when i shut down my laptop..but my hard disk not turn off..what happen?
[03:44] <gizmo> logicport: im here
[03:45] <logicport> where can i find my error reports
[03:45] <raylu> gizmo: if it's in the middle of a write and you're ext3, the journaling should take care of you
[03:45] <Ltl> T1: using sudo it should. append the program name, /usr/local/thinkorswim
[03:45] <n8tuser> logicport-> it takes time for X to paint the screen, and it takes time to load programs
[03:45] <bastid_raZor> Ltl;  you fail. T1 ; you need to find the binary after you unzip the file. you would run it by doing ./binaryfile    while being in that directory
[03:45] <logicport> n8tuser trust me not like this
[03:45] <logicport> and when i shutdown a shite load of errors come up which never came up before
[03:46] <n8tuser> logicport-> wifi should have been active at boot if you had auto wlan0  in your interfaces file
[03:46] <Ltl> bastid_raZor: i have no idea its an extractable file.
[03:46] <T1> Ltl: do i need to move the installation folder to the usr/local folder
[03:46] <logicport> right it used to do all this till an update screwed it over
[03:46] <Ltl> T1: follow bastid_raZor's directions.
[03:46] <logicport> like say gnome loads, but then no wifi thing comes up
[03:47] <n8tuser> logicport-> what was your reason to upgrade anyways?
[03:47] <logicport> conky dont come up, my screen brightness gets and error
[03:47] <logicport> automatic update
[03:47] <Ltl> T1: no on the mv
[03:47] <mib_x510388h> my UNetbootin usb boot leads me to the desktop, but how can i still wipeout GRUB and HD from this usb desktop?
[03:47] <logicport> like can u give the command so i can see what errors it gives me
[03:48] <n8tuser> logicport-> upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 ? that kind of upgrade, not update
[03:48] <DrHackenbush> Howdy! Laptop opinion question:  I'm thinking about buying my wife a Thinkpad (T-42) and slapping Ubuntu on it. She just needs it for internet browsing and DVD watching. Are there any gotchas or good reasons I should avoid Thinkpads?
[03:48] <logicport> right update sorry
[03:48] <logicport> nah it started updating loads of things, then it froze and i had to restart
[03:48] <logicport> then nothing really worked
[03:48] <raylu> DrHackenbush: thinkpads are made of lots of win
[03:48] <T1> bastid_raZor: how do i find the binary file?
[03:48] <raylu> DrHackenbush: but the ctrl and fn keys are misplaced. but other than that, they're awesome
[03:48] <logicport> restart login everything comes up, but then rest icons on the nav bar take a while to come up
[03:48] <bastid_raZor> T1; what type of file did you download?
[03:49] <logicport> and if i shutdown it doesnt shut down, and i have to press power off once again
[03:49] <DrHackenbush> raylu: fair enough - no major compatibility issues that you know of?
[03:49] <raylu> DrHackenbush: none that i know of
[03:49] <logicport> and then it comes up in command prompt whilst shutting down that theres loads of errors but i dont have time to see them properly
[03:49] <Ltl> T1: execute the file without sudo, the cd into the dir it creates and read README and INSTALL.
[03:49] <DrHackenbush> raylu: sweet - thanks for the info :-D
[03:49] <n8tuser> logicport-> common issue with hanging shutdown is  networking, or hald stuck of not getting unloaded
[03:49] <gizmo> sorry
[03:49] <incubii> logicport, what if you run 'sudo apt-get -f install' in the terminal? that should continue the update/install
[03:49] <gizmo> i ask again
[03:50] <raylu> Ltl: where did you get this file?
[03:50] <T1> bastid_raZor:  a sh file its called thinkorswim_installer.sh
[03:50] <gizmo> why its happen when i shut down my laptop but my hard disk still on?
[03:50] <Ltl> raylu: not my file, not my dilemma :)  ... ask T1
[03:50] <logicport> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:50] <logicport> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:50] <logicport> i know lol
[03:50] <logicport> sorry lol duh!
[03:51] <xeroz> ok
[03:51] <bastid_raZor> T1; okay, be in the same directory as the file and do ./thinkorswim_install.sh if this gives you errors use sudo ./thinkorswim_install.sh
[03:51] <gizmo> can anyone tell me
[03:51] <incubii> logicport, sounds like apt-get is already running from another process
[03:51] <exodus_ms> DrHackenbush, --> http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lctp.html  not the specific model you were querying about, but useful info
[03:51] <gizmo> why its happen when i shut down my laptop but my hard disk still on?
[03:51] <xeroz> how do you install usplash themes that are .tar.gz
[03:51] <raylu> bastid_raZor: um...
[03:51] <logicport> yeah i got that sorted incubii
[03:51] <logicport> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:51] <logicport> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:51] <ga> hy
[03:51] <raylu> bastid_raZor: might want to check out the errors before just sudo-ing it
[03:51] <logicport> oooooops
[03:51] <DrHackenbush> exodus_ms - ooh nice thanks!
[03:51] <logicport> Reading package lists... Done
[03:51] <logicport> Building dependency tree
[03:51] <logicport> Reading state information... Done
[03:51] <logicport> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[03:51] <logicport>   linux-headers-2.6.24-22-generic linux-headers-2.6.24-22
[03:51] <FloodBot1> logicport: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <logicport> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[03:51] <xeroz> yeah these are n00b questions
[03:51] <exodus_ms> DrHackenbush, np :)
[03:51] <Ltl> logicport: be sure no other package managers are in use.
[03:51] <bastid_raZor> raylu; true.
[03:52] <wartalker> my /dev/ram1 size is 1 G, how can i change the size, does it affect the performance
[03:52] <sysdoc> oh my it appears that I fubar'd ubuntu. How can I get tail to print so I can get boot log printed?
[03:52] <raylu> xeroz: tar xfz filename.tgz may help
[03:52] <logicport> im banned
[03:52] <raylu> wartalker: ...you don't, and no
[03:52] <sysdoc> !tail
[03:52] <raylu> sysdoc: tail to print...?
[03:52] <gizmo> why its happen when i shut down my laptop but my hard disk still on?
[03:52] <gizmo> anyone can tell me?
[03:52] <sysdoc> raylu, yup
[03:52] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> do you want to get adventurous? for about $150 bux, those 3"X4" sngle board computer .. has all the features except hard disk and cddrive..  google for beagle  sold by digikey.com
[03:52] <Ltl> sysdoc: dmesg |less   is the kernel boot message
[03:53] <jtisme> logicport, it will let you come back in a bit
[03:53] <raylu> sysdoc: tail already prints. what do you mean?
[03:53] <sysdoc> Print to a printer
[03:53] <exodus_ms> gizmo, what are you asking about?
[03:53] <raylu> sysdoc: why don't you just print the last 10 lines of the file?
[03:53] <sysdoc> I need the list of errors so I can seek help in here
[03:53] <gbear14275> would anyone be willing to give me a little fstab editing verification?  I am trying to edit fstab for the first time and am not sure I have the format down right
[03:53] <raylu> sysdoc: does the computer have an internet connection?
[03:53] <sysdoc> yea
[03:53] <T1> bastid_raZor:  i've installed it into the /usr/local/thinkorsim folder but when i try to lauch it sayd its checking for updates and it just hangs?
[03:53] <gizmo> im using ubuntu 8.10..when i shut donw my laptop..all close already..but my hard disk is still runing..
[03:54] <raylu> sysdoc: pastebinit
[03:54] <raylu> sysdoc: install that package and you should be good to go
[03:54] <exodus_ms> gbear14275, --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[03:54] <jtisme> gbear14275, first thing is to make a backup copy before making ANY changes!!!
[03:54] <sysdoc> fubar'd GDM and a long list of others
[03:54] <xeroz> ok lets see if it works
[03:54] <raylu> gbear14275: show us the fstab line?
[03:54] <incubii> logicport, did the terminal command fix it?
[03:54] <bastid_raZor> T1; with that, you've successfully installed the application and need to seek support from the people who created the game/program..
[03:54] <DrHackenbush> n8tuser:  hrm - i'll have a look at that too.  :-D  thanks!
[03:55] <wartalker> raylu:thanks
[03:55] <logicport> well i gotta restart
[03:55] <raylu> wartalker: why would you ask such a question/
[03:55] <logicport> brb gonna go for a rolly
[03:55] <logicport> restart and il be back in a min
[03:55] <raylu> logicport: restarting is unlikely to fix anything
[03:55] <randal> can anyone help my dvds wont play how can i fix this i get the fbi warning thing then it says cant read from disk
[03:55] <exodus_ms> gizmo, you have no power to your laptop, but the hdd is still spinng up?
[03:55] <valdis4> \leave
[03:56] <raylu> !dvd | randal
[03:56] <transporter> how do i check my graphics card?
[03:56] <raylu> o.0...
[03:56] <raylu> !medibuntu | randal
[03:56] <wartalker> raylu: /dev/ram is the ramfs, i think it used the ram
[03:56] <raylu> wartalker: it = ?
[03:56] <exodus_ms> and lets not forget !codecs
[03:56] <raylu> transporter: lspci
[03:56] <raylu> exodus_ms: dvd = codecs
[03:56] <transporter> raylu k thanks
[03:57] <wartalker> raylu: /dev/ram1-15
[03:57] <exodus_ms> raylu, cool
[03:57] <T1> bastid_raZor: how do i remove/uninstall the program from the /usr/local folder
[03:57] <raylu> wartalker: sorry, you're not making much sense
[03:58] <bastid_raZor> T1; possibly by rerunning the script again.
[03:58] <Ward1983> anyone ever used vnuml?
[03:58] <Ltl> bastid_raZor: i doubt that even makes sense. fail.
[03:59] <Cypher_> ubuntu roxs
[03:59] <jayjaytheclown> does anyone know how to restart XDMCP remote desktop from command line? I had it setup to remote login but its now refusing connections? I can ssh into the box though?
[03:59] <zetheroo> Whats the best way (easiest) to get dual head working in ubuntu?
[03:59] <Ward1983> zetharx, nvidia by any chance?
[03:59] <bastid_raZor> Ltl; some 3rd party scripts will detect if they have been installed before and will give the option of uninstalling.
[04:00] <Ward1983> zetharx, sorry wrong highlight
[04:00] <Ward1983> zetheroo, nvidia by any chance?
[04:00] <Ltl> T1: sudo rm -rf /usr/local/folder install it i your home dir instead
[04:00] <zetheroo> Ward1983: no ... Intel ...
[04:00] <myst> i want to run Dynamips in ubuntu 8.10... how i can do it? tnx
[04:01] <Ltl> bastid_raZor: since we have no idea what this program is, we're both shooting in the dark.
[04:01] <phorensic> zetheroo: I think if you dont have nvidia easiest way is to edit the xorg.conf file
[04:01] <Ward1983> zetheroo, sorry dunno then
[04:01] <zetheroo> ok
[04:01] <phorensic> unless your display manager finds the other display
[04:01] <zetheroo> well I can do clone screen
[04:01] <zetheroo> but want to do Dual Head
[04:02] <Ltl> T1: i advise you to read the install instructions from wherever you obtained this program.
[04:02] <incubii> zetharx, you will need to use Xinerama then
[04:02] <incubii> doh
[04:02] <mewwyxmas> finaly im in.pls gawdd..dont ban this ip
[04:02] <incubii> zetheroo, use Xinerama
[04:02] <mewwyxmas> hi
[04:02] <mewwyxmas> anyone in here using autofs through ldap with binddn+tls?
[04:02] <arturo_on_rails> Hi, does anyone use successfully the proprietary ati drivers?
[04:03] <zetheroo> incubii: is that in Synaptic
[04:03] <incubii> zetheroo, it should be
[04:03] <phorensic> arturo_on_rails: No but i have heard of many people having success with it
[04:03] <bastid_raZor> Ltl; it does not matter where the program is installed as long as the program itself knows where to find the files it needs to run.
[04:03] <bastid_raZor> Ltl; and yes, i agree since this is a 3rd party game/application it should not be support in this channel.
[04:03] <arturo_on_rails> phorensic: My machine hard-locks as soon as it starts
[04:04] <Ward1983> zetheroo, you can try going to the screen resolution window in system -> preferences and click detect displays, but i think you can only mirror from there
[04:04] <mewwyxmas> hello anyone answer my query pls?
[04:04] <gbear14275> anyone good with partitions... Can this be fixed safely?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/88966/
[04:04] <Ltl> bastid_raZor: no hard feelings i hope, i agree with you.
[04:04] <zetheroo> Ward1983:  yes its only cloning
[04:04] <logicport> raylu: it only happens on logging in, for example it loads half then takes ages 2 load the rest, when before it used to come up everytime, and now for example i run firefox and everytime i open it i thinks its a fresh install, and all my bookmarks are gone to
[04:04] <zetheroo> incubii: I am not finding it in Synaptic
[04:04] <randal> daniel you there
[04:05] <bastid_raZor> Ltl; none at all, tired and cranky on this end. my apologizes
[04:05] <Ward1983> zetheroo, sorry dunno then, never used intel GPUs so far
[04:05] <maco> why would gnome autostart something that has its checkbox set to false in the sessions autostart thing?
[04:05] <zetheroo> Ward1983: ok ... thanks anyhow
[04:05] <phorensic> zetheroo: yah i haven't tried it with my intel card only nvidia
[04:05] <Ward1983> zetheroo, np
[04:05] <zetheroo> ok
[04:05] <phorensic> zetheroo: is it a lappy?
[04:06] <zetheroo> yes
[04:06] <zetheroo> and an LCD monitor
[04:06] <SomeGuy7337> I have a problem when i launch almost any program it tells me that it has a "Segmentation Error" and i can't really go onto the forums because this effects firefox
[04:06] <gizmo> exodus_ms:  yes my laptop have no power but the hd is still running
[04:06] <Ward1983> zetheroo, if you try modifying your xorg.conf dont forget to backup it (and make sure you know how to copy it back from a commandline offcourse)
[04:06] <maco> Ward1983: will intrepid even acknowledge his xorg.conf?
[04:06] <zetheroo> Ward1983: yeah i never had much luck with editing xorg ...
[04:06] <Jpdota> does anybody know how to set the domain name of a ubuntu computer?
[04:06] <raylu> logicport: you could try moving the .mozilla folder
[04:07] <maco> bgamari: you here?
[04:07] <gizmo> exodus_ms:  can   u solve for me?
[04:07] <zetheroo> maco: not in Intrepid here ... Hardy :)
[04:07] <jtisme> gizmo  its running from the battery
[04:07] <maco> zetheroo: ah ok. yeah i think that still pays attention to xorg.conf
[04:07] <Ward1983> maco, i dunno i didnt try it with interpid but it used to work on everything before that, did they somehow get rid of it? :s
[04:07] <CheesyWeasel> how do i force certain applications to start in certain places? like i want pidgin to start in the upper right, but i wants to start in the upper left.
[04:07] <gizmo> jtisme: so how to turn off?
[04:07] <Ltl> SomeGuy7337: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages in a term window, launch something and read the errors in the messages file.
[04:07] <djet> I'm attempting to transfer a fairly large file from a mac. It's about 10 gb. I was using gftp over my network, but it would not stop downloading the file... twas weird. Any ideas for a diff way to xfer it?
[04:07] <maco> ardchoille: X no longer needs an xorg.conf. in intrepid, it's blank by default.
[04:07] <maco> Ward1983: ^
[04:08] <exodus_ms> gizmo, And this is the internal hdd, not an external hdd?
[04:08] <maco> Ward1983: that was for you. the w before i tabbed didnt work :P
[04:08] <incubii> zetheroo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624 Xinerama howto for ubuntu
[04:08] <gizmo> hardisk in my laptop..
[04:08] <gbear14275> Sorry if this is really naive, but can I burn a disk image by right clicking on the .iso and saying "write to disk"  or will that just put the .iso file on the disk?
[04:08] <jtisme> gizmo  best guess is some setting the bios thats all i can tell you
[04:08] <zetheroo> incubii: looking at it now ...
[04:08] <logicport> raylu: back in too secs
[04:08] <Ward1983> maco, erm, so what is being used now? this is confusing
[04:08] <gizmo> jtisme: how to setting my bios?
[04:08] <Ltl> CheesyWeasel: running gnome? in sessions, check gnome-save-setting box. no guarentee but it's a start.
[04:08] <bastid_raZor> Jpdota; /etc/hosts /etc/hostname but in your case that depends on the other computers trying to connect to it. you could call it anything as long as it points at the right ip
[04:08] <gizmo> can you give me some clue..
[04:08] <jtisme> gizmo is the OS shutdown?
[04:08] <phorensic> gbear14275: that should burn the image
[04:08] <Ward1983> maco, its been xorg.conf for as long as i can remember :s
[04:09] <gbear14275> thanks phorensic
[04:09] <gizmo> jtisme:  the os shutdown.but my hd still on..
[04:09] <maco> Ward1983: no file needed. it's supposed to autoconfig. the application to configure it from the command line is xrandr
[04:09] <Ward1983> maco, but its not possible to save the config no more? :-O
[04:09] <Jpdota> bastid_raZor: by default it only had a hostname configured there, not a hostname and domain like other distros, so should i add the domain to that?
[04:09] <exodus_ms> gizmo, Could it be a fan still running?
[04:09] <jtisme> gizmo remove the battery and see if it stops.  reinsert the battery see if it starts back up
[04:10] <Ltl> gbear14275: safer to use brasero and burn as 'image'
[04:10] <Ward1983> maco, also: nvidia-settings still has the "save to xorg.conf" option
[04:10] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: i didnt understand any of that... im running gnome but other than that im clueless
[04:10] <jtisme> gizmo, exodus_ms asks a good question is it a fan?
[04:10] <phorensic> gbear14275: I prefer k3b myself as I keep getting burning errors in brasero
[04:10] <gizmo> i dont think so its a fan..
[04:10] <jtisme> phorensic, second the use of k3b
[04:11] <gizmo> later i will do like you told me jtisme
[04:11] <jtisme> gizmo, ok
[04:11] <gizmo> jtisme: where to ask help about my psybnc in terminal?
[04:11] <Ltl> CheesyWeasel: running gnome? click system - preferences - sessions, check gnome-save-setting deamon boxe[s].
[04:11] <gizmo> i dont have yet a server ..and dont know how to create bnc..
[04:11] <maco> sorry, i forgot my laptop was set to suspend when i shut the lid.
[04:12] <jtisme> gizmo, what is psybnc  havent heard of that yet
[04:12] <SomeGuy7337> Ltl: i did it , it says ----kernel: [ 2164.497364] gnome-terminal[10387]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f133c3bd360 sp 00007fff476c45c8 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.1800.2[7f133c361000+c3000]------
[04:12] <gizmo> jtisme:  its ok..its like bot..but running with shell
[04:13] <maco> bgamari: any chance when youve got some free time you could write a howto for xrandr since the manpage doesnt really explain which commands to use in what order?
[04:13] <jtisme> gizmo, ask the question here see if anyone can help, i cant
[04:13] <gizmo> ok...
[04:13] <maghero> 大家好
[04:13] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: which tab is it under?
[04:14] <Ltl> SomeGuy7337: have you mixed repositories by chance?
[04:14] <exodus_ms> gizmo, --> is this what your talking about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/psyBNC
[04:14] <SomeGuy7337> what do you mean
[04:14] <maco> !cn | maghero
[04:14] <Ltl> CheesyWeasel:  click system - preferences - sessions
[04:14] <SomeGuy7337> btw this happened when i was changing themes
[04:14] <Ward1983> anyone familiar with VNUML ?
[04:14] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: yeah but which tab under the sessions preferences thing?
[04:14] <maghero> thanks
[04:14] <krishnan> i have 3 wordpress blogs installed on my server for different domain names. how can i update them to the latest wordpress release without affecting the blog
[04:15] <Ltl> CheesyWeasel:  startup programs
[04:15] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: its not there. should i add it?
[04:15] <SomeGuy7337> Ltl: what do you mean? btw this happened when i was changing themes.
[04:15] <gizmo> exodus_ms:  yesh...but my problem..i dont know where to get the server host and port..
[04:15] <incubii> Has anyone got Multiprey working on the retail version of Prey? i can play singleplayer fine but Multiprey does not list any servers to join, all i can do is host my own game :|
[04:15] <maco> Ltl: any idea why when ive got something unchecked in sessions startup, it still starts?
[04:16] <Ltl> CheesyWeasel: yes, search in synaptic for gnome settings daemon
[04:16] <threeparrots> Anyone know how to get support for SB Live MP3+????
[04:16] <Ltl> SomeGuy7337: thats very possible, where did you obtain the theme?
[04:16] <exodus_ms> gizmo, sorry, i don't know how to help you, was just curious as to what you where asking about
[04:16] <maghero> 我的索尼笔记本安装ubuntu8。10没有声音，设备显示正常
[04:16] <CheesyWeasel> !cn | maghero
[04:17] <Ltl> SomeGuy7337: right click the desktop and use a stock ubuntu theme, restart X ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:17] <SomeGuy7337> I was making it, i had been editing a theme that was already working just changing colors and width
[04:17] <qcjn> hi, i've download xvidcap, but the video i make, other people "on windows" can't read them ?
[04:17] <threeparrots> Anyone know how to get support for SB Live MP3+????
[04:17] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: apparently its already installed...
[04:17] <maco> threeparrots: sound card?
[04:17] <idejmcd> having trouble with my webcam, logitech quickcam. pm if you can help
[04:17] <threeparrots> maco, yeah
[04:18] <CheesyWeasel> idejmcd: just ask the question. nobodys gonna pm you
[04:18] <exodus_ms> gizmo, something like this maybe 'make menuconfig go in `Bouncer Config', next set Listening Port and Ip.'
[04:18] <mewwyxmas> once again, anyone in here using autofs through ldap with binddn+tls?
[04:18] <Will^Draven> I've got an interesting problem, my mouse and keyboard have suddenly stopped working in X, i can alt-ctrl-F# and get to a console, but i cant log in using the gui
[04:18] <threeparrots> maco, any experience here?
[04:19] <gizmo> exodus_ms:  k wait
[04:19] <bastid_raZor> Jpdota; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204360
[04:19] <idejmcd> ubuntu doesn't recognize my webcam.  i want to use it online. any suggestions?
[04:19] <incubii> buh, Rythmbox's random/shuffle is poop. it's played the same sone 5 times in a row
[04:19] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: it was installed already but its not in the session preferences
[04:20] <maco> threeparrots: join me in #ubuntu-audio-help
[04:20] <Blip> hey im trying to get my logitech headphones to work.. on ubuntu 8.04, i found the device and when i unplug and plug my USB headphones in i hear drums lol... but trying to get normal system sounds and like youtube etc..etc.. will not work. can anyone help me ?
[04:20] <Ltl> CheesyWeasel: google ubuntu save desktop settings
[04:20] <maco> threeparrots: the channel's usual expert is busy right now, but maybe i can help a little
[04:20] <yaris123456789> hey guys i am setting up WHM/Cpanel, it asks for hostname, do i just make anything up?
[04:20] <Ltl> CheesyWeasel: include your release.
[04:21] <Ward1983> anyone familiar with VNUML ?
[04:21] <logicport> basically to anyone who saw previous posts, nothing fixed, but i got a hell alot more errors when restarting, alot to do with network manager
[04:22] <Blip> hey im trying to get my logitech headphones to work.. on ubuntu 8.04, i found the device and when i unplug and plug my USB headphones in i hear drums lol... but trying to get normal system sounds and like youtube etc..etc.. will not work. can anyone help me ?
[04:22] <Ltl> maco: it's starting from somewhere, sessions settings arent terribly reliable. as CheesyWeasel can probably agree on. I've had similiar bugs with startup stuff.
[04:22] <Panarchy> Hi! Does anyone here know what chmod I should make my /var/log
[04:23] <Ltl> maco: what starts in particular
[04:23] <maco> Ltl: tomboy
[04:23] <ik> Hello.  I'm using rxvt-unicode, and I like to use iso14755 input occasionally.  This works on debian (etch), but shift+ctrl does nothing with urxvt on ubuntu.  Intrepid's urxvt seems to have been compiled with it enabled.  How can I get this to work on Ubuntu?
[04:23] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: im not finding anything...
[04:23] <Neurologic> What is the name of the loading bar screen which one sees everytime one starts Ubuntu?
[04:23] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know how to list packages by size?
[04:23] <Ltl> Panarchy: dont mess with those permissions is good advice.
[04:23] <Panarchy> Ltl: What's the default
[04:23] <Ward1983> Blip, since its a USB headphone it probably has its own soundcard built-in, choose that in your sound preferences (by doubleclikcing the sound icon)
[04:24] <Neurologic> It's, by default, an orange bar with Ubuntu over it, that fills then gives you the login, anyone?
[04:24] <logicport> can some please tell me where i can find the errors which are shown whilst shutting down
[04:24] <Ward1983> Blip, right now its probably using your internal card
[04:24] <Panarchy> Ltl: What's the default, for the entire folder of /var/log
[04:24] <ik> Neurologic: the login bit is gdm, I'm not sure what the package that provides the splash is called.
[04:24] <Blip> ive tried using all of the devices, like i said, i can switch to the USB Logitech device. but still no system sounds.
[04:25] <Ward1983> Blip, no sound at all or onyl no system sounds?
[04:25] <Panarchy> Does anyone know what the default chmod is for the /var/log directory?
[04:25] <Neurologic> ik, thanks, I knew gdm, but can't find a way to change that screen. It was changed to Kubuntu's accidentally, and it's bugging me
[04:25] <incubii> logicport, /var/messages should contain the errors i think
[04:25] <CheesyWeasel> Ltl: i got nothing.
[04:25] <Blip> Correct. but when i unplug my usb and plug it back in i hear drums.... lol but after that no sounds at all.
[04:25] <maco> Ltl: the PPID is 1 O_o init shouldnt be starting tomboy
[04:25] <logicport> hmm i cannot access root
[04:25] <incubii> logicport, /var/log/messages
[04:26] <ik> Neurologic: it might be 'usplash'
[04:26] <logicport> never have been able to either, how do i set a password
[04:26] <ik> Neurologic: try installing usblash-theme-<pick one>
[04:26] <maco> Ltl: ok crimsun's saying something else started it, then exited, so init re-parented it. still no idea why anything is starting it
[04:26] <incubii> logicport, try 'sudo gedit /var/log/messages'
[04:26] <Ltl> Panarchy: the dirs are 755, the files vary 644. 640
[04:26] <bastid_raZor> logicport; you don't. your user has the ability to use root by sudo or gksudo
[04:26] <ik> Neurologic: ooh, better.
[04:26] <ik> Neurologic: it's an alternative
[04:26] <Ward1983> Blip, doubleclick soundicon, choose your USB headphones (but you allready did that you say) click preferences, add sliders that seem logically to add, unmute them, and put them up
[04:26] <DonnyDonDon> Hi, I need your help and I'm not sure if you can help me or not. I've installed gOS (based on Ubuntu and Debian), it was working good, I updated it, there was like 250-300 updates and I updated and restarted. After the restart I logged in successfully, and had no internet so I attempted to go into the network manager and configure the settings. That was a major fail because it wouldn't...
[04:26] <ik> Neurologic: try sudo update-alternatives --configure usplash-artwork.so
[04:26] <DonnyDonDon> ...accept my password. The password I have is the same for the root/admin and my account and it doesn't work for administration rights but it does work to log onto the desktop. Can anybody help?
[04:26] <eut> hello
[04:27] <Neurologic> ik, alright
[04:27] <master_> hi, I'm new to linux and ubuntu, I have a problem with wireless connection...could someone help me here?
[04:27] <SomeGuy7337_> Ltl: Problem, i can not seem to get the appearance to come up
[04:27] <Blip> ive already done all of that....
[04:27] <Blip> still nothing.
[04:27] <ik> Neurologic: err, -config, not --configure
[04:27] <Ward1983> Blip, sorry dunno then
[04:27] <Panarchy> Ltl: So would this be the right command? mkdir log | then this command:| chmod 775
[04:27] <Ltl> maco: is tomboy in /etc/init.d/
[04:27] <maco> ik: if you want to enter non-latin characters,you can go to system ->administration ->language and check off "enable complex character input" after a log out/in, ctrl+space should let you type in non-latin character
[04:27] <Ltl> maco: also look in /etc/rc2.d/
[04:27] <logicport> right i dont get these problems untill i got to shutdown, is their a specific log for that
[04:27] <incubii> man i need a faster computer, these DVD encodes are taking forever
[04:28] <master_>  hi, I'm new to linux and ubuntu, I have a problem with wireless connection...could someone help me here? pm me please
[04:28] <Ward1983> Blip, thats the most common problem, i had this on 2 of 3 machines so it was not unreasonable that you had the same problem
[04:28] <Neurologic> ik, unknown argument on configure
[04:28] <Ltl> Panarchy: how did they get changed?
[04:28] <Neurologic> ik, and config
[04:28] <Ward1983> Blip, unreasonable to think that i meant
[04:28] <ik> maco: nah, I'm not using gnome.
[04:28] <Ltl> Panarchy: how did you lose log?
[04:28] <Neurologic> ik, oop, nevermind, ignore me, missed a slash
[04:28] <ik> maco: I'd rather just figure out why ubuntu's version of this terminal isn't working properly
[04:28] <Neurologic> ik, err...hypen
[04:28] <Neurologic> hyphen* oi!
[04:29] <ik> hehe
[04:29] <n8tuser> logicport-> when you are shutting down, do you see those status displayed on the console? ctrl +alt+F1
[04:29] <Panarchy> Um guys, just made a mistake and deleted everything that was in my /var/backups folder
[04:29] <Panarchy> Is that bad?
[04:29] <incubii> Is it possible to make the Gnome panel two rows high like i can in WindowsXP ?
[04:29] <SomeGuy7337> Ltl: Problem, i can not seem to get the appearance to come up
[04:29] <nick_> guys, i need help in recovering files that i deleted.. i copied stuff from one partition of reiserfs to ntfs, but i was lazy and windows was in hibernation. now the ntfs disk says i used up the proper amount of space, but has no idea where the files are..
[04:29] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know how to list packages by size?
[04:29] <maco> ik: well that "complex character input" is the thing that enabled SCIM
[04:29] <eut> yesterday my usb dvd drive worked fine. but after an update and some odd xscreensaver error it has stopped being properly detected when i plug it in. i do not have the dmesg output from when it was working, but here is what it looks like now http://rafb.net/p/fJSWLp63.html
[04:30] <maco> ik: i dont think it's the terminal's fault, but rather SCIM's
[04:30] <ik> maco: SCIM has nothing to do with urxvt's iso14755 support (although it might be getting in the way, I'll see if it's running)
[04:30] <Ltl> SomeGuy7337: there is a way to reset gnome desktop to original settings
[04:30] <master_>  hi, I'm new to linux and ubuntu, I have a problem with wireless connection...could someone help me here?....
[04:30] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know how to list packages by size?
[04:30] <bastid_raZor> nick_; that isn't a ubuntu problem that is a windows issue with being able to read reiserfs
[04:31] <bastid_raZor> not being able to read ;; nick_
[04:31] <ik> Panarchy: google for 'list packages by installed-size'
[04:31] <ik> Panarchy: the first result is a thread in ubuntu forums..
[04:31] <DonnyDonDon> Hi, I need your help and I'm not sure if you can help me or not. I've installed gOS (based on Ubuntu and Debian), it was working good, I updated it, there was like 250-300 updates and I updated and restarted. After the restart I logged in successfully, and had no internet so I attempted to go into the network manager and configure the settings. That was a major fail because it wouldn't...
[04:31] <DonnyDonDon> ...accept my password. The password I have is the same for the root/admin and my account and it doesn't work for administration rights but it does work to log onto the desktop. Can anybody help?
[04:31] <ik> maco: yeah, scim has nothing to do with this.  Any other suggestions?
[04:31] <Neff> is there an easy way to find out what device a winmodem is using?
[04:32] <hlab> yesterday my usb dvd drive worked fine. but after an update and some odd xscreensaver error it has stopped being properly detected when i plug it in. i do not have the dmesg output from when it was working, but here is what it looks like now http://rafb.net/p/L8ErBS21.html
[04:32] <maco> ik: nope. scim's how i always get such things working. could use it as a workaround...
[04:33] <SomeGuy7337> how do you rename a file in the terminal?
[04:33] <hlab> SomeGuy7337, mv oldfilename newfilename
[04:33] <SomeGuy7337> thx - hlab
[04:34] <hlab> any ideas?
[04:34] <_cb> What is a good IRC program in Ubuntu?
[04:34] <nick_> _cb; xchat
[04:34] <maco> SomeGuy7337: if you want to rename a LOT of them in the same way (ex: a bunch of .html to .php), use prename
[04:35] <cliff_> hi everyone
[04:35] <xinen007> xchat
[04:35] <DonnyDonDon> _cb: you can install ChatZilla as a Firefox extension, is what I'm using now but on WinXP.
[04:35] <ik> maco: ok, thanks anyway.
[04:35] <maco> _cb: graphical? i prefer xchat-gnome. terminal: irssi
[04:36] <master_>  hi, I'm new to linux and ubuntu, I have a problem with wireless connection...could someone help me here?
[04:36] <cliff_> ok ... maybe someone can help ... new to Ubuntu for the eeepc ... and I cant stand the easy desktop with big icons ... is there a way to make it into a regular desktop or do I need to install kubuntu?
[04:36] <logicport> nopeeee
[04:36] <cliff_> hi master ... glad Im not the only new one on here. lol
[04:36] <nick_> guys i deleted some reiserfs data. they are not in the recycle bin. what can i use to recover em?
[04:36] <logicport> seriously man its fooked, cant even take a screenshot
[04:37] <cliff_> maybe I shouldnt be trying to find this stuff out while I'm drinkng lol
[04:37] <ik> maco: oh, I found it.  iso14755 was moved to -ml.  Evidently users are unable to avoid accidentally pressing ctrl+shift.  *shrug*
[04:38] <Xylia> Hi people, I've been using Ubuntu 8.10 on my Dell Studio 15" for the last couple of days and I've noticed that my internet connection is slower and more prone to disconnecting. Any suggestions please?
[04:38] <logicport> im so close to going back to windows lol
[04:38] <ik> logicport: go for it
[04:39] <logicport> i love linux thou :@
[04:39] <DonnyDonDon> I use XP and I'm attempting to use gOS, but having problems and waiting for help...
[04:39] <logicport> just a shame, i wish linux had the "proper" msn msger lol
[04:39] <rdw200169> logicport: you're having wireless problems?
[04:39] <MHz128> hey all, how do I use a UTP cable to connect to another ubuntu machine?
[04:39] <MHz128> for file transfers.......
[04:40] <alicia> I'm haveing interesting network issues after a round of updates, I have a static ip address set on my network and I can resolve IP addresses and ping local hosts on my network but can't ping outside my network? Seems to be an issue with tha gatewy but how do I procceed?
[04:40] <maco> ik: i had to disable shift+space on scim because my mom kept typing it when she used all caps on forms...she could've just used capslock.  i know for a fact her (now my) typewriter has capslock
[04:40] <impulse_> logicport: or perhaps you need better friends :(
[04:40] <logicport> well basically im having a shite load of problems
[04:40] <rdw200169> MHz128: you can use SSH, it's the quickest and easiest, but requires that you know ea. computers' password
[04:40] <_cb> Installed compiz on an x200. No problems. Played a bit with the cube and effects. Pretty solid. Is it solid or am I just lucky? (Internet makes it sound as if it is not completely stable yet)
[04:40] <logicport> alot to do with gnome i think, firefox, network manager ect...
[04:41] <MHz128> rdw200169, ok thats easy, so... plug the cable in, then connect somehow
[04:41] <MHz128> ?
[04:41] <logicport> like for example its running fine now, except i cant load firefox properly, thinks its a fresh install
[04:41] <rdw200169> MHz128: well, first you have to get networking to work:
[04:41] <logicport> and i cant take screenshots
[04:41] <rdw200169> MHz128: simply, without getting into zeroconf and all that, just assign this:
[04:41] <ik> logicport: yeah, n-m is buggy as hell, at least from my experience.  It seemed to trade some bugs for others between 8.04 and 8.10
[04:41] <MuZI> How do I get the compiz effect manager to show?
[04:41] <logicport> but whilst loading after logging in, it seems not load everything and when it finally loads, my wifi icon shows up, conky opens, and rest icons on gnome bar load
[04:41] <rdw200169> MHz128: <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> on computer A, and <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> on computer 2;
[04:42] <rdw200169> MHz128: gateway and dns are not required in this situation, just ip and subnet
[04:42] <ik> logicport: well yeah, gnome is slow and takes forever to start.  It happens.
[04:42] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Is it possible to install Songbird ? ?
[04:42] <rdw200169> MHz128: with the cable plugged in on both sides, and the interfaces 'up', you should be able to ping back and forth, unless you're running a firewall
[04:42] <logicport> yes BUT it never used too untill and update came along for few things, updated, it crashed and then since then its foooked
[04:43] <_cb> Muzi you have to install the compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:43] <nite_johnboy> Can not find Songbird in Synaptic......
[04:43] <ik> nite_johnboy: It doesn't seem to be in apt, you'll have to install it manually.
[04:43] <rdw200169> MHz128: disregarding that, you can simply install ssh-server on both; and use Places -> Connect to Server...
[04:43] <ik> nite_johnboy: http://getsongbird.com/download/  # here
[04:43] <nite_johnboy> ik; That's what it was looking like to me as well.
[04:43] <rdw200169> MHz128: selecting Service type of SSH, and inputting the opposite IP address
[04:43] <MuZI> Cb- thank you
[04:44] <rdw200169> MHz128: all the other info in the COnnect to Server.. dialog is not necessary, it will just use defaults
[04:44] <ik> nite_johnboy: it's not a huge deal.  You can use checkinstall when you compile it to generate a .deb (for easy removal/updating later)
[04:44] <MHz128> does ssh-server have a gui frontend?
[04:44] <rdw200169> MHz128: that is the quickest and easiest way to perform the task you're referring to
[04:44] <ik> MHz128: there's not much to frontend..
[04:44] <_cb> Muzi once you install it to get the cube you have to go into preferences-->Compiz-->Enable the cube.  Click wheel button on the dektop
[04:44]  * Panarchy says Hi
[04:44] <rdw200169> MHz128: no, it doesn't need one; after you install it, it should go ahead and run it with defaults
[04:44] <Panarchy> Does anyone here knowhow to sort packages by size?
[04:45] <pingveno> I'm trying to install Intrepid on a computer that already has an NTFS partition. I used ntfsresize to resize it to 30GB but I'm not sure how to do the installation past that in terms of rearranging the partitions.
[04:45] <ik> Panarchy: yes, I told you the answer to that already.
[04:45] <rdw200169> MHz128: then, when you try to do the Connect to Server... it will ask for the computers password, which i'm expecting you to know
[04:45] <pingveno> By rearrange, I mean using fdisk to officially resize the partition ;)
[04:45] <rdw200169> MHz128: oh, and you put in the user name for the opposing computer
[04:45] <ik> Panarchy: I gave you a specific phrase to google, the VERY FIRST result contains several answers to your question.
[04:45] <Panarchy> jk: Sorry, must've missed it, restarted my computer
[04:45] <ik> Panarchy: *ik
[04:45] <eseven73> lol Panarchy you still trying to clean up your hdd?
[04:45] <_cb> pingveno why use fdisk instead of Ubuntu?
[04:45] <Panarchy> eseven73, nope, never had the need to
[04:46] <eseven73> ah maybe it was someone else
[04:46] <rdw200169> MHz128: so technically, you're SSH'ing into<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for file transfer; it pops up into a Nautilus-file manager window which you can use just like the normal file manager
[04:46] <MHz128> rdw200169, cool..... uhh how do I set those IPs on both machines?
[04:46] <Panarchy> eseven73: just need to free enough space so that my custom ubuntu distro will fit on one CD
[04:46] <Panarchy> jk: Sorry, must've missed it, restarted my computer, please tell me again
[04:46] <rdw200169> MHz128: System -> Administration -> Network
[04:47] <logicport> right bugger it, its gonna be easier for me to backup and reload aint it lol, one question thou is xubuntu better
[04:47] <eseven73> Panarchy: hmmm there are file splitting utilities you might try that route?
[04:47] <rdw200169> MHz128: select Unlock, select the Wired connection interface you'll be plugging into, likely eth0, and then click properties
[04:47] <pingveno> _cb: I already used ntfsresize to do the resizing so I don't know how to edit the partition table correctly.
[04:47] <DonnyDonDon> Hi, I need your help and I'm not sure if you can help me or not. I've installed gOS (based on Ubuntu and Debian), it was working good, I updated it, there was like 250-300 updates and I updated and restarted. After the restart I logged in successfully, and had no internet so I attempted to go into the network manager and configure the settings. That was a major fail because it wouldn't...
[04:47] <Panarchy> eseven: on like 25MB off my target, i
[04:47] <DonnyDonDon> ...accept my password. The password I have is the same for the root/admin and my account and it doesn't work for administration rights but it does work to log onto the desktop. Can anybody help?
[04:47] <Panarchy> ,
[04:47] <pingveno> ntfsresize doesn't deal with the partition table, just shrinking the file system itself.
[04:47] <rdw200169> MHz128: disable roaming mode, and input the IP and subnet's i'm specifie on both computers
[04:47] <Panarchy> sure I can save the space
[04:48] <rdw200169> MHz128: oh, and specify a 'Static IP Connection'
[04:48] <logicport> op me
[04:48] <nite_johnboy> ik; Ummm - treading on new ground here - haven't installed a tar.gz app yet......
[04:48] <rdw200169> MHz128: once you're done inputting the info, just select the checkbox next to the interface: ensure that it is checked, making it active
[04:49] <rdw200169> MHz128: do this on both computers and networking should take place between both computers; make sure you assign *different* ip address like i've specified
[04:49] <genii> nite_johnboy: Try instead the deb file for 32 or 64 bit from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[04:49] <MHz128> rdw200169, i dont see anything about static ips...
[04:49] <Ltl> nite_johnboy: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz  cd to the created directory and read the text files
[04:49] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know how to sort packages by size?
[04:49] <lu6cifer> Is there a way to disable the annoying icon appearance on the xubuntu desktop?
[04:50] <lu6cifer> I'm talking about how the text under the icons are all shaded
[04:50] <impulse_> Panarchy: didn't that question already got answered about three times now?
[04:50] <Panarchy> How do I clear all bash history???
[04:50] <rdw200169> MHz128: i'm using ubuntu 8.04, it may be different in 8.10, i don't know
[04:50] <rdw200169> MHz128: the interface should be really similar, though
[04:51] <Panarchy> impulse_: No, it has yet to be answered (in this session)
[04:51] <ik> Panarchy: I told you TWICE ALREADY
[04:51] <MHz128> rdw200169, netmask is <IP_ADDRESS> correct?
[04:51] <impulse_> ahh i see.. how many sessions will there be?
[04:51] <ik> Panarchy: you even acknowledged on the second time.
[04:51] <rdw200169> MHz128: sure
[04:51] <ik> Panarchy: How many times are you going to ignore my response and re-ask the same question?
[04:51] <Ltl> Panarchy: installed packages you mean?
[04:52] <Panarchy> Ltl : Yeah
[04:52] <ik> Panarchy: once more
[04:52] <ik> Panarchy: 23:31 < ik> Panarchy: google for 'list packages by installed-size'
[04:52] <ik> Panarchy: go there, do that.
[04:52] <Ltl> Panarchy: dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k 2 -n
[04:52] <MHz128> rdw200169, do u know the name of the ssh server package i need?
[04:52] <maghero> my computer no sound, how to do
[04:52] <rdw200169> MHz128: openssh-server i think
[04:52] <_cb> pingveno what are you trying to do? I had a PC with 2 ntfs partitions. Ubuntu detected those left them alone and allowed me to partition the rest of the disk. In another I had Vista pre-installed and Ubuntu resized that partition and set up the rest of the disk.
[04:53] <rdw200169> MHz128: just search for it in synaptic
[04:53] <alicia> doki_pen: I tried to ping <IP_ADDRESS> and got nothing on the borked machine but another machine got a response. ^^ where shoud I go from here?
[04:53] <Panarchy> Thanks Ltl
[04:53] <Ltl> Panarchy: it works on intrepid fyi.
[04:53] <Panarchy> But how do I make it show sizes as MB
[04:53] <T1> i get error bash: jar: command not found
[04:54] <Ltl> Panarchy: um, lemme study on that a sec
[04:54] <nite_johnboy> genii; Thanks so much - the Ubuntu support rocks! - I have it installed and a nice little icon in my Applications/Sound & Video - Very Cool - Appreciate it much! Thank You!
[04:54] <genii> nite_johnboy: Enjoy :)
[04:55] <Panarchy> Ltl: Sure
[04:55] <_cb> anybody using compiz on their production machines? Is it stable?
[04:56] <Panarchy> Does anyone know what the chmod should be for /var/log/apt
[04:56] <genii> Shouldn't production boxes run headless?   ;)
[04:56] <qr> How do I turn off all the window animation effects in gnome?
[04:56] <predator3631> quick question. I am trying to create my own custom panel type thing (i dont even know what exactly to call it) i want a button in the middle of the screen that i can click on and it pulls open a menu bar anyone have a clue where i should even start?
[04:56] <nite_johnboy> genii; From what I have read this app seems to work good with the iPod (yuk) all I have right now - Is there something else (Different app) you might recommend ?
[04:56] <Panarchy> predator3631: Look into the drawer applet
[04:56] <Panarchy> qr: System Preferences Appearance
[04:57] <qr> predator3631: you seriously want a button right in the middle of your screen? That sounds quite annoying.
[04:57] <predator3631> qr: go to system>preferences>apearence and turn the desktop effects off or down
[04:57] <genii> nite_johnboy: I don't have an ipod, so would be recommending from reviews,which you could just look up yourself
[04:57] <predator3631> qr: yea its an idea im working with
[04:57] <_cb> genii inversely proportional to the user.
[04:57] <Panarchy> How do I update the dpkg cache?
[04:57] <Panarchy> Here's what it is currently: wine                                              	57828
[04:58] <Panarchy> But wine isn't installed
[04:58] <qr> Panarchy, predator3631: thanks exactly what I wanted
[04:58] <Panarchy> You're very welcome
[04:58] <raylu> Panarchy: um, what?
[04:58] <raylu> Panarchy: what is that the output of?
[04:58] <predator3631> panarchy: The drawer aplet? thats the think that sits on my taskbar iv got that its not really what im looking for
[04:58] <Panarchy> raylu: sudo dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k 2 -n
[04:59] <raylu> Panarchy: and the permissions on /var/log/apt should be the same as the other log files in there. readable by all, writable by owner
[04:59] <Panarchy> predato3631: Are you a programmer?
[04:59] <yowshi> my cursor is all fudged up or somehting. when ever i press the ctrl key what i get is rippling circles and it is interfering with programmes like dosbox and wine can anyone help me gte rid of it?
[04:59] <raylu> Panarchy: "aptitude show wine"
[04:59] <Panarchy> raylu: What chmod should that be? (it'd been deleted)
[04:59] <raylu> Panarchy: wait, is that a directory or a file?
[05:00] <rashire> I have a interesting issue. I'm running 8.10 and i've been having issues with wireless. If i boot the laptop and try to connect to wireless it just wont connect, mostly fails on obtaining ip, but if the os loads with a ethernet connection plugged it, wireless connects as soon as i remove the cable. any way i can fix it so wireless works without needing to boot while tethered?
[05:00] <raylu> (i'm not on ubuntu right now)
[05:00] <predator3631> panarchy: iv had some experience took a couple of classes in college but would not call myself a programmer
[05:00] <Panarchy> http://www.mibbit.com/pb/IZq160
[05:00] <nite_johnboy> genii; yup - totally with you on that - I have been reading and doing some googling - Looks like best way to go for a portable .mp3/podcast player would be one of the Cowon iAudio players - thanks for the input. Probably hold off on trying to this junky ipod working on here - don't want to mess up my nice stable system.
[05:00] <Panarchy> predator3631: Then don't worry about making a menu in the middle of the screen
[05:00] <lwizardl> hi
[05:00] <onexused> How do I set my laptop's touchpad to turn off when I plug in a mouse, but be on otherwise?
[05:00] <Panarchy> hi
[05:00] <raylu> Panarchy: the state of wine is not installed :P why are you worried about what dpkg says?
[05:01] <TurboBee> my laptop is booting into read only mode on the file system how do i stop it from doing that?  I am using jfs as my filesystem
[05:01] <raylu> !hi | lwizardl
[05:01] <Panarchy> raylu: I need to save space
[05:01] <predator3631> panarchy: its something i want to play with
[05:01] <T1> how do i make the jar command work
[05:01] <raylu> Panarchy: huh? and again, is /var/log/apt a directory or a file
[05:01] <predator3631> panarchy: but cant seem to figure out where to start
[05:01] <nite_johnboy> genii; thanks again anyway
[05:01] <Panarchy> predator3631: In that case, have a look at my topic on the ubuntuforums
[05:01] <predator3631> panarchy: link?
[05:01] <genii> nite_johnboy: Glad to be of assistance
[05:01] <T1> what does the jar command do
[05:02] <Ltl> Panarchy: i cant find a  human-readable way to out that command.
[05:02] <Panarchy> predator3631: They told me how to edit it and which packages to edit
[05:02] <Panarchy> Went to 3 pages
[05:02] <raylu> T1: normally, one asks that before trying to use it
[05:02] <Panarchy> Ltl: Okay, well thanks anyway
[05:02] <n8tuser> T1 java archiver
[05:02] <crimsun> T1: essentially writes metadata and zips.
[05:02] <Panarchy> How do I update the dpkg cache?
[05:02] <raylu> Panarchy: it won't save you space
[05:02] <predator3631> panarchy: what should i search for? do you use panarchy as your username there or do you have a link to the thread?
[05:03] <Panarchy> raylu: How do I save space
[05:03] <raylu> Panarchy: sudo aptitude clean
[05:03] <Panarchy> predator3631: Panarchy is my username on the forum
[05:03] <_cb> rashire work or home? if work, could it be that wired is authenticating you to a system?
[05:03] <raylu> Panarchy: and is /var/log/apt a dir or a file?
[05:03] <predator3631> panarchy: k i'l just search for your name then
[05:03] <Panarchy> raylu: directory
[05:03] <Ltl> Panarchy: have you removed old kernels not used anymore per chance?
[05:03] <Panarchy> predator3631: k
[05:03] <Panarchy> Ltl: I think I have
[05:03] <rashire> _cb: home, wireless is wpa2-psk, dchp server at <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:03] <Panarchy> I'll check synaptic
[05:03] <rashire> dhcp w/e
[05:03] <raylu> Panarchy: chmod u=rwx,g=rx,o=rx
[05:04] <MHz128> rdw200169, ok, i am connected now via utp.... (network manager) how do I transfer the files?
[05:04] <_cb> rashire  that kills  that theory
[05:04] <rashire> _cb: issue with both network manager and wicd
[05:04] <onexused> How do I set my laptop's touchpad to be off when I have a mouse plugged in, but on otherwise?
[05:04] <lwizardl> question for anyone thats setup a ubuntu server. I'm wanting to make a internal test server for testing out php scripts so I don't have them running on my main server. but I was looking at some guides and got stuck. usually you would use like servername.domain.tld but since I don't have a real domain name on this server what would I use in place of that?
[05:05] <Ltl> Panarchy: ls /boot/  any old kernels are marked .old iirc
[05:05] <raylu> lwizardl: where is it asking you for a domain?
[05:05] <lwizardl> raylu: hostname's
[05:05] <raylu> lwizardl: you can set the hostname to anything you want
[05:05] <IdleOne> !touchpad > onexused check out the link from ubottu and see if it helps. I am not sure if you can do what it is you are asking, least I don't know how to
[05:06] <Shizzo> Hi.  I have limited experience with Linux.  Is there a version of Ubuntu that will have drivers, Codecs, etc for a full-featured operating system?  And is that available for free download, or do I need to pay for that?
[05:06] <raylu> lwizardl: er, sorry. set the hostname to the hostname of the machine
[05:06] <IdleOne> hmm
[05:06] <raylu> lwizardl: which can be anything you want. you can also set it as the ip of the mchine
[05:06] <raylu> lwizardl: but again, where is it asking you for this?
[05:06] <_cb> rashire looks as if something is disrupting the broadcast on the wireless
[05:06] <IdleOne> onexused, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad here is the link
[05:06] <lwizardl> raylu: right but if i place for example "james" then later in the seetings it gets auto set to "james.gateway.2wire.net"
[05:06] <onexused> IdleOne: Thanks.
[05:06] <RochJer> Hiya - is anybody here familiar with ultimate ubuntu?
[05:06] <firefly2442> I installed 8.10 32bit, is it possible to upgrade to 64 bit or do I need to reinstall?
[05:07] <RochJer> 2/0
[05:07] <raylu> lwizardl: james should still work from anywhere within the network
[05:07] <eseven73> firefly2442:  reinstall
[05:07] <IdleOne> firefly2442, fresh install
[05:07] <rashire> _cb: it's pretty consistant, i cant get wireless to connect till i plug in ethernet, think its a issue with my ip scheme?
[05:07] <firefly2442> darn.... thanks though ;)
[05:07] <Ltl> Panarchy: important note, remove old kernel images with synaptic...
[05:07] <maco> Shizzo: is that a joke?
[05:07] <maco> Shizzo: ubuntu is a full-featured operating system
[05:07] <RochJer> I am having problems installing Ultimate Ubuntu 2.0 on CD and also on Unetbootn
[05:08] <_cb> Do you have more than one PC? If yes, any connecting via the wireless?
[05:08] <Panarchy> Ltl: Okay
[05:08] <lwizardl> raylu: ok because I try http://james/ and //james and but don't load the apache pages
[05:08] <Shizzo> maco: Not at all.  I just want drivers, codecs, etc.  When I was using mandriva, there was a pay version for drivers, codecs, etc
[05:08] <IdleOne> Shizzo, and the codecs you are looking for are easily installed
[05:08] <raylu> lwizardl: o.0
[05:08] <_cb> rashire Do you have more than one PC? If yes, any connecting via the wireless?
[05:08] <rashire> _cb i killed my laptop laptop, but for over a year i've had same settings and laptops on xp connected fine
[05:08] <raylu> lwizardl: they should... then again, 2wire fails all over itself all the time
[05:08] <Ltl> !codecs | Shizzo
[05:08] <rashire> _cb: killed my 'other' laptop
[05:08] <maco> Shizzo: weird. no, everything ubuntu is free. you only pay if you want a 1-800-HLP-PLZ! number
[05:09] <Shizzo> maco: Good to know.  I'll go download now.
[05:09] <willis__> Shizzo,  no need to pay for them in ubuntu - unless you got some really weird hardware -   You can install codecs and other stuff from medibuntu repositorues or other places.
[05:09] <maco> Shizzo: the drivers for everything we can find drivers for are included usually. for nvidia or ati, you can enable them after install.
[05:09] <maco> Shizzo: there's a package called ubuntu-restricted-extras that'll install codecs, java, flash, etc.
[05:09] <Shizzo> Last Question: Anything inherently wrong/flawed/etc with the x64 version?  Less supported programs or anything?
[05:10] <willis__> Shizzo,  then you can enable medibuntu and install the w32codec packages -  to get mosta ll windows codecs supported.
[05:10] <IdleOne> Shizzo, first step is download and install or try ubuntu witht he live cd then come here and ask for some more help to get the codecs installed
[05:10] <willis__> Shizzo,  depends on your hardware.  I'll go and download it.
[05:11] <Ltl> Shizzo: 64 bit i.e. the amd64 .iso even for intel boxes
[05:11] <Shizzo> Anything I should know about dual-booting with Vista, or just stick the disk in there and start installing?
[05:11] <willis__> Shizzo,  how much ram ya got? if more then 4gb. then go for 64bit.. if not.. dont worry about it and stuck with 32bit..  unless you are going to be doing a lot of heavy math/encoding work
[05:11] <rashire> sorry to be off topic~ish, but aren't most intel desktop cpus not native 64bit proccessors? and such doesnt x64 os like ubuntu run poor on it?
[05:11] <Shizzo> I've got 4 Gb of RAM
[05:12] <rashire> or am i a year or to behind on intel knowledge
[05:12] <willis__> rashire,   Most now a days are 64bit.
[05:12] <willis__> rashire,   I do belive that Intel Atom in the new netbooks are 32bit.. but i think most all 'new' ones are 64bit now a days.
[05:12] <Ltl> rashire: 64 bit flies on my intel pentium-D 64 processor.
[05:12] <willis__> rashire,  there may be others that are 32 bit. but i tend to do more AMD then intel.
[05:13] <rashire> i see. not looked since i bought my last cpu, and amd was still best you could buy
[05:13] <Shizzo> Anything I need to know about dual-booting with Vista?
[05:13] <pingveno> _cb: Sorry about the AFK. Ubuntu didn't seem to have an option to auto-resize the NTFS partition (at least not the LiveCD version).
[05:13] <willis__> Shizzo,  it works? :) you may want to rezise your vista partition  with vista befor installing Ubuntu. that saves some time.
[05:14] <Guest38286> Guest38286 has OpenChrome drivers installed (Xubuntu I think), but doesn't know how to configure them.
[05:14] <willis__> Shizzo,  you have 1 or 2 hard drives or any other special hardware?
[05:14] <rashire> _cb: i'll just post on forums later tonight, see if i cant reach more people for a answer
[05:14] <Guest38286> any one into that?
[05:14] <_cb> rashire would not think it is your ip scheme because you get an IP via wired and are also communicating via IP after receiving the IP. Looks like something is blocking the DHCP broadcast
[05:14] <terryx> hey guys how deo i format usb drive in ubuntu
[05:14] <Shizzo> I've got a 100 Gb Vista partition, and 364 Gb partition that is formatted for Windows, but begging for Ubuntu.  =)
[05:14] <sysdoc> I have broke ubuntu, and not a happy camper! lol. GDN is broke and 'am at the cli and need access to sudo yet sudo tells me that my user is not in the sudoers file. could someone offer a lil help?
[05:15] <sysdoc> GDM sorry
[05:15] <Shizzo> willis__:  Does a SATA HDD and ODD count as "special hardware"?
[05:16] <rashire> _cb, linsys router running dd-wrt, maybe i'll flash a new firmware see if i connect better
[05:16] <sysdoc> I have tried enabling the root user using passwd and that does not work either
[05:16] <lwizardl> anyone here setup an internal only server?
[05:16] <n2diy> sysdoc, thanks. :) what can your user do that sudo can't?
[05:16] <willis__> Shizzo,  sata work fine. whats ODD?
[05:16] <Shizzo> Optical Disc Drive
[05:16] <willis__> Shizzo,  you mean err.. a cd/dvd  drive?
[05:16] <Shizzo> yup
[05:16] <workingTitle> hey, guys.. i accidentally installed the wrong drivers for my video and now i cant see anything
[05:16] <workingTitle> what do i do?
[05:17] <terryx> helloo
[05:17] <Ltl> rashire: get dd-wrt v24 version...much improved
[05:17] <willis__> Why you think somthing thats pretty much standard on eveyr machine in the last 8+ years be odd? :)
[05:17] <sysdoc> n2diy, it is the other way around, it is what sudo can do that my user can not, like use apt-get
[05:17] <terryx> formating from ubuntu..how?
[05:17] <Shizzo> willis__: Just checking...
[05:17] <svchost> can you guys help me?
[05:17] <rashire> Ltl: Firmware: DD-WRT v24 (05/24/08) mini
[05:17] <sysdoc> n2diy, looking to install pastebininit
[05:17] <n2diy> sysdoc, and sudo apt-get doesn't work?
[05:17] <firefly2442> svchost: you could try the rescue mode from GRUB and then try to auto fix X
[05:17] <svchost> i accidentally installed the wrong drivers and i cant see anything now :-/
[05:17] <MHz128> how do I start the SSH server?
[05:17] <svchost> kk
[05:18] <qr> svchost: without a sudo-able user or the root password you can't really do anything
[05:18] <firefly2442> MHz128: did you install ssh via apt-get?
[05:18] <genii> sysdoc: pastebinit   and not pastebininit
[05:18] <svchost> i just cant see anything
[05:18] <Shizzo> If I bust the 364 GB partition down, can I make a partition that can be mounted by Vista and Ubuntu?
[05:18] <sysdoc> n2diy, no, sorry but I thought I was clear on that, sudo says my user is not in the sudo file
[05:18] <_cb> rashire if you assign it a static ip does everything work?
[05:18] <MHz128> firefly2442, ya, openssh-server
[05:18] <svchost> i have the login for it.. but i cant see anything on screen
[05:18] <rashire> _cb, mac addy has a static ip from when it ran windows
[05:18] <firefly2442> MHz128: it should already be running as a daemon, can you connect?
[05:18] <sysdoc> genii, yes thanks
[05:18] <qr> Shizzo: yes, just format it with NTFS, ubuntu can read/write that
[05:19] <terryx> nobody knows?
[05:19] <Shizzo> qr: Thanks.
[05:19] <n2diy> sysdoc, don't spec a user, just sudo,  no?
[05:19] <MHz128> firefly2442, i have both machines connected via UTP cable.... network manager says theyre connected, but ssh 192.x.x.x says no route to host
[05:19] <sysdoc> n2diy, 'spec'?? sorry do not follow
[05:19] <_cb> rashire you mean you have a static reservation for the mac on the DHCP?
[05:19] <rashire> yup
[05:19] <sysdoc> n2 oh I get it
[05:19] <Ltl> rashire: get dd-wrt v24 sp1 07/28/08 std. your mileage may vary :)
[05:20] <n2diy> sysdoc,  just use sudo, and no reference to a user.
[05:20] <firefly2442> MHz128: can you ping from each machine?
[05:20] <Shizzo> This should be the last question:  On the Ubuntu website, I see them pushing two different version of Ubuntu on disc:  Ubuntu Desktop Version, and Kubuntu.  I'm guessing that Kubuntu=KDE.  What WM is used in "Desktop Version"?
[05:20] <sysdoc> n2diy, oh I get it, yea the only user on the box and sudo is not liking me, lol
[05:20] <eseven73> gnome
[05:20] <mia_tech> anyone can help with (pxe) net install?
[05:20] <Ltl> Shizzo: gnome
[05:20] <joanki123> how can i get mysql?
[05:20] <MHz128> firefly2442, no, ping is unreachable... :P
[05:20] <Shizzo> gnome?  ewwww yuck
[05:20] <Shizzo> Thanks
[05:20] <qr> Shizzo: they're pushing ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server, you can use any supported WM with either version
[05:20] <firefly2442> MHz128: I would try fixing that first... um, any more details?
[05:21] <joanki123> how can i get mysql?
[05:21] <Shizzo> I just hose the Vista partition and get serious.  I'll never learn anything if I can just boot to Windows when I'm having issues....
[05:21] <n2diy> sysdoc, do you have access to the install cd, and the box?
[05:22] <sysdoc> n2diy, oh yea
[05:22] <MHz128> umm, nope, installed openssh on both machines, plugged in utp cable, network manager says connected....... no pings
[05:22] <n2diy> sysdoc, boot the cd, go to rescue mode, and fix your password.
[05:23] <terryx> i want to format my 2gb pen drive, how do i do it in ubuntu....?
[05:23] <Etan> I can't extract rar with unrar, any other way?
[05:23] <qr> n2diy: he doesn't need the CD, there should be a safe mode boot option
[05:23] <eseven73> !rar
[05:23] <yowshi> my cursor is all fudged up or somehting. when ever i press the ctrl key what i get is rippling circles and it is interfering with programmes like dosbox and wine can anyone help me gte rid of it?
[05:23] <n2diy> qr, cool.
[05:23] <sysdoc> qr, that is correct
[05:23] <firefly2442> MHz128: you have a crossover ethernet cable or something else?
[05:24] <MHz128> firefly2442, crossover
[05:24] <firefly2442> MHz128: you should be able to just give a local IP to each machine (static, e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>....)
[05:24] <MHz128> how?
[05:24] <richard> hello?
[05:25] <n2diy> hello
[05:25] <firefly2442> MHz128: go into the network manager
[05:25] <MHz128> ive assigned both machines different I{
[05:25] <MHz128> IPs
[05:25] <Guest87340> any one speak portuguese?
[05:25] <pan> need help with resizing ntfs hdd using gparted boot cd?
[05:25] <firefly2442> MHz128: ok, static right? not DHCP?
[05:25] <pan> it wont let me resize
[05:25] <pan> wondered if someone here can help me?
[05:25] <MHz128> does Manual = static?
[05:25] <firefly2442> MHz128: yep
[05:25] <MHz128> then yes
[05:26] <n2diy> | portuguese
[05:26] <firefly2442> MHz128: I would say try running "ifconfig" on each machine and make sure the IP address took
[05:26] <n2diy> !| portuguese
[05:26] <Guest87340> ola!
[05:26] <gasull> Hi.  I have a backup of my system.  I want to migrate all my partitions to XFS.  How can I do it?
[05:26] <Fabiano> hi!
[05:26] <MHz128> firefly2442, can i set the IP manually using ifconfig
[05:26] <Guest87340> e voce de que pais sos?
[05:26] <Fabiano> cap you guys tell what company is best for their laptops?
[05:27] <firefly2442> MHz128: it's possible yes
[05:27] <Fabiano> i'm trying to get one preinstalled iwth ubuntu
[05:27] <genii> Fabiano: Maybe check out system76
[05:27] <Guest87340> I cant talk in Brazilan Portugese
[05:27] <firefly2442> Fabiano: I have no experience with them but I know System76 and Dell both ship Ubuntu preloaded laptops
[05:27] <Guest87340> solo em portuges do portugal
[05:28] <Fabiano> ok thank you
[05:28] <djayhogan> yowshi: Go to System>Preferences>Mouse, untick the box under locate pointer.
[05:28] <brusteve> is there a way I can get a list of TTYs and switch from one to another through the command line?
[05:28] <Guest87340> any java programmer?
[05:28] <n2diy> brusteve, setserial, but you'll have to fetch it.
[05:28] <yowshi> djayhogan: thanks
[05:28] <MHz128> firefly2442, yes, both I{
[05:29] <MHz128> IP's are correct
[05:29] <Etan> Ubottu: thanks a lot. Let me check.
[05:30] <Shizzo> Downloading the CD installer now...
[05:30] <firefly2442> MHz128: did you see my PM?
[05:30] <brusteve> n2diy: thanks, i'll fetch it, check it out and read the man page - this will allow me to list or switch TTYs, or both?
[05:30] <Antwort> i need some help
[05:30] <Jason_WT> how do i nav to where the cdrom is mounted
[05:30] <itai-michaelson> hi, im trying to install ubuntu over network, i'm following a guide that requests the alternate version, my question is - can i use the server iso instead?
[05:31] <itai-michaelson> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/11/how-to-configure-pxe-network-booting-on-ubuntu-for-network-based-installations/
[05:31] <n2diy> Bruce, won't list them, but will let you play with all of them, that you have.
[05:31] <Antwort> im getting green and black stripes across my display
[05:31] <Antwort> stupid ati
[05:32] <Antwort> can anyone help?
[05:32] <Jason_WT> ok, how do i mount the cdrom drive to another location
[05:32] <n8tuser2> am surprised, I can set the default gateway of a 2WIRE dsl modem to just about any ip within the range, normally its .1 or .254.. neat
[05:33] <Guest38286> would someone have the time to help out with some driver issue
[05:33] <Guest38286> s
[05:33] <Antwort> im having video driver issues
[05:34] <Guest38286> I have open chrome installed but am having trouble getting it configured
[05:34] <n8tuser2> itai-michaelson-> i dont see why you can not,  just do not expect pretty gui's
[05:34] <Guest38286> this via chipset has been a real headache
[05:34] <itai-michaelson> n8tuser, thanks, i aint expecting no gui...
[05:34] <_cb> Antwort if you are just installing install on low graphics mode and see what happens
[05:35] <Shizzo> Does the Wubi installer install INSIDE windows, or just allow you to install FROM INSIDE windows?
[05:35] <maco> Shizzo: it installs into a disk image on the windows filesystem but runs on its own. i dont really recommend it though.
[05:35] <eseven73> ewww you dont want that Shizzo
[05:35] <maco> Shizzo: there have been cases where hal upgrades made wubi unbootable.
[05:35] <Antwort> i've tried different res.
[05:35] <Shizzo> maco: eseven73  Thanks.  Point noted.
[05:35] <bgamari> maco, hey
[05:35] <Antwort> and it doesnt do anything
[05:36] <n8tuser2> Shizzo-> but for demo purposes, it is great
[05:36] <_cb> antwort trying running from live cd and then installing
[05:36] <Ltl> Shizzo: avoid wubi... my opinion among others.
[05:36] <Shizzo> Downloading the Desktop version now.  I'm assuming that I can specify KDE as my WM at some point during the install?
[05:36] <maco> bgamari: i was going to ask an X question involving xrandr, but i forget it now.
[05:36] <maco> Shizzo: you want kubuntu then
[05:36] <maco> Shizzo: kubuntu.org has kde4
[05:36] <bgamari> maco, hmm
[05:36] <maco> Shizzo: regular ubuntu ships gnome
[05:36] <Antwort> i've had ubuntu working fine on default drivers
[05:36] <Antwort> after the OS install
[05:36] <bgamari> maco, did you want a howto on xrandr modesetting?
[05:37] <eseven73> Shizzo: you can install KDE over gnome easily and vice versa
[05:37] <n8tuser2> Shizzo-> but you can always install kde  with apt-get
[05:37] <Antwort> and then I updated via Hardware Drivers
[05:37] <maco> bgamari: yeah, thatd be nice. if you dont have a blog to put it on you can use mine ;)
[05:37] <Antwort> and then it started
[05:37] <genii> Shizzo: Don't install just kde from apt-get. install kubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <Shizzo> Good to know.  Thanks
[05:37]  * genii gives n8tuser2 a coffee
[05:38] <n8tuser2> thanks, i really can use one
[05:38] <genii> n8tuser2: Anytime :)
[05:38] <portablejim> Is there a way to have message for a user to read every time they log on?
[05:38] <Antwort> what should I do
[05:38] <bgamari> maco, I'll try wriitng up something
[05:38] <Guest38286> where should I go for graphics driver help?
[05:38] <Antwort> Im running Radeon x1950GT
[05:39] <CentHOGG> <x1900
[05:39] <Antwort> i got the x1900 series drivers and it doesnt work
[05:39] <Antwort> black and green breaks in display
[05:40] <TheSHizz> i'm having problems with video playback on webpages.. I get strange symbols like the player won't load anything
[05:40] <TheSHizz> some work, some don't.. I think its only the flash that isn't loading properly
[05:40] <maco> TheSHizz: what flash do you have installed?
[05:41] <CentHOGG> TheSHizz: you verified tha latest Flash
[05:41] <TheSHizz> how can I tell you?
[05:41] <n2diy> portablejim, sounds like a kiosk? Try searching on kiosk?
[05:41] <Antwort> the Breaks happen randomly
[05:41] <n8tuser2> I just realized, i spent way too much time tweaking a regular ubuntu install for a user who was interested in multi-media stuff .. poor choice of mine to suggest regular ubuntu
[05:41] <CentHOGG> Antwort: what's your setup :)
[05:41] <CentHOGG> HW-wise
[05:41] <itai-michaelson> question - what does the sudo mount -o loop CD.iso /mnt do? does it unpack the iso?
[05:41] <Antwort> Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop
[05:42] <CentHOGG> hardware
[05:42] <n2diy> n8tuser2, live and learn.
[05:42] <willis__> n8tuser2,  hmm..  I guess it depends on what you do.. I can get my regular ubuntu playing all my videos and toher media stuff in under 5 min.. compared to the time it takes me to do a simile stuff underwindows = about 30 min.
[05:42] <Antwort> AMD3700 64
[05:42] <Antwort> 1gb ram
[05:42] <Antwort> Radeon x1950GT AGP
[05:42] <CentHOGG> Antwort: verified Aok in windows or something else
[05:42] <CentHOGG> other OS
[05:42] <brusteve> n2diy: I'm a little confused I'm currently on /dev/pts/1 - how do I jump onto another TTY, this don't seem to work > setserial /dev/pts/0
[05:43] <Antwort> I dont have any problems with my Winodws partition ATI drivers
[05:43] <hwilde> hello I have two monitors, why can't I open to version of firefox like one in each monitor?
[05:43] <CentHOGG> ok
[05:43] <Antwort> its just my ubutnu
[05:43] <CentHOGG> Antwort: ok, tell me again what happens please
[05:43] <hwilde> hello I have two monitors, why can't I open two versions of firefox like one in each monitor?
[05:43] <willis__> hwilde,  you mean 'two' different instanances of firefox?
[05:43] <hwilde> sry typo two
[05:43] <n8tuser2> n2diy-> there's got to be a better way.. one ought to package a multi-media stuff and let the user load it at once rather than hunting for debs
[05:43] <puremichael> hi, can someone tell me why i've got a big 6720x1050 screen with ati drivers? i've got only two 1680x1050 monitors
[05:44] <CentHOGG> OT it took like five minutes to get on Dalnet
[05:44] <Antwort> the default videodrivers that Ubuntu used after install worked fine
[05:44] <hwilde> willis__, I can't open two mplayers for that matter either.  but terminal shells and games and almost everything else
[05:44] <CentHOGG> is that something new
[05:44] <pan> anyone can help me why i can't resize ntfs vista drive?
[05:44] <pan> http://pastebin.com/m812360e
[05:44] <Antwort> but lacked 3D acc.
[05:44] <n2diy> brusteve, go pack to setserial, and select another comm, port. But I don't think setserial will play with a pts port?
[05:44] <n8tuser2> willis__-> as new install, the user wanted to play games and music and pr0ns..i suggested a regular ubuntu..big mistake
[05:45] <CentHOGG> Antwort: you know about linux 3d right?
[05:45] <gizmo> is putty avaible in linus?
[05:45] <gizmo> *linux
[05:45] <genii> gizmo: Use ssh
[05:45] <hwilde> gizmo, yep
[05:45] <Antwort> i installed the drivers that Hardware Drivers listed for my Card
[05:45] <gizmo> hwilde: no virus in putty?
[05:45] <_cb> Where is ubuntu not up to par to windows ? (Besides games")
[05:45] <Antwort> nope
[05:45] <CentHOGG> back
[05:45] <itai-michaelson> n8tuser2, do i need to extract the ISO file for a network install? i have it in my var/www dir
[05:45] <hwilde> gizmo, you dont need putty, since ssh is built in.
[05:45] <n2diy> brusteve,  what is a  pts port?
[05:45] <qr> gizmo: ssh is the thing putty is trying to me
[05:45] <CentHOGG> less than zero ok
[05:45] <qr> be
[05:46] <CentHOGG> but linux is good for other things though
[05:46] <n2diy> Less than zero??
[05:46] <brusteve> n2diy: well I wanted to know what TTW was being used by a shell so i typed in the command "tty"
[05:46] <n8tuser2> itai-michaelson-> no need to extract iso's mount it in the tftp server for sharing with the remote client
[05:46] <Antwort> I have my pc dual booted
[05:46] <CentHOGG> kewl
[05:46] <Antwort> windows for games
[05:46] <brusteve> n2diy: that outputed /dev/pts/1
[05:46] <Antwort> and ubuntu for everything else
[05:47] <willis__> hwilde,  firefox does a 'single instance thing' you would need to run i tas a differenr user.
[05:47] <CentHOGG> Antwort: how long have you been linuxing?
[05:47] <CentHOGG> you know the commands yet
[05:47] <hwilde> willis__, lame
[05:47] <brusteve> n2diy: I wat to switch from one open shell terminal to another open shell terminal
[05:47] <n2diy> brusteve, ttw? are you playing on a test box or mission critical box?
[05:47] <hwilde> willis__, but helpful info, I can run it as a diff user
[05:47] <Antwort> off and now for few years
[05:47] <brusteve> n2diy: test
[05:47] <genii> brusteve: You might want "screen"
[05:47] <n2diy> brusteve, ok, cool.
[05:48] <willis__> hwilde,  firefox has been that way for years for security and stability -
[05:48] <Antwort> used to run a half-life dedicated server off Mandrake 9
[05:48] <itai-michaelson> n8tuser2, thanks, if i understand correctly i need to copy certain files from the installer to the tftp directory, correct? ( initrd.gz , network installer)
[05:48] <n2diy> BRB
[05:48] <CentHOGG> Antwort: a good book for me was 'linux power tools'
[05:48] <ardchoille> Whomever hilighted me, can you please repeat?
[05:48] <brusteve> genii: screen lets you save the state of your terminal when logging off, how does that help me look at the content of every single shell
[05:48] <CentHOGG> but that might be dated
[05:48] <n8tuser2> itai-michaelson-> correct
[05:48] <hwilde> willis__, well ok but if I use one big screen I can start two and drag one to left and right monitor, but if I have twinview (two x displays) then I can only have certain applications in one
[05:48] <itai-michaelson> n8tuser2, thanks
[05:49] <Antwort> can I just reset to the default drivers?
[05:49] <CentHOGG> i wouldn't even try 3d
[05:49] <willis__> hwilde,  with twinview here i can drag  to either monitor.  Im not sure how you are starting 2
[05:49] <CentHOGG> no need really
[05:49] <qr> brusteve: start the shell you want to watch inside screen, then from another terminal do screen -x
[05:49] <brusteve> n2diy: so how can I switch between each terminal on a machine to see what is going on inside it?
[05:49] <n8tuser2> itai-michaelson-> you're welcome
[05:49] <CaneToad> When Ubuntu is booting, what should I press on the keyboard to get a maximum amount of displayed information instead of the splash screen?  Ubuntu quite frequently hangs on bootup.  Just wondering why.
[05:49] <brusteve> qr: not quite what I'm trying to do
[05:49] <Antwort> then how do I fix the video issue?
[05:49] <CentHOGG> Antwort: have you ever hooked your x1900 to a tv
[05:49] <hwilde> willis__, my mouse goes between but no program windows
[05:50] <Antwort> it doesnt have the plugin for it
[05:50] <CentHOGG> Antwort: well i wouldn't give up, just learn a little bit here and there
[05:50] <brusteve> qr: I want to cycle though all of them
[05:50] <CentHOGG> prob figure it out in a month or so
[05:50] <willis__> hwilde,  sounds like you may have twinbview enabled wrong, or somthing else odd. ior using 2 seprate X servers.
[05:50] <hwilde> willis__, yeah separate x servers
[05:50] <hwilde> willis__, but I don't see why I can't open two instances of firefox
[05:50] <CentHOGG> Antwort: ever try vmware?
[05:50] <hwilde> willis__, maybe dragging between xservers is a stretch but I should be able to spawn one in each monitor
[05:50] <hwilde> willis__, I can do it with terminal shells and games and stuff
[05:51] <qr> brusteve: oh, well then... I'm not sure you can do that.  You could try poking at the /dev/ttyXXX devices, although I'm not sure how you would do that.
[05:51] <willis__> hwilde,  firefox checks.. if its allready running it dosent allow a 2nd one.. and yes You can force stuff to start on the 2nd X display. with the right DISPLAY variable.
[05:51] <Dark_Shikari> I just installed ubuntu on a box of mine and need to access a samba share.  But when I go to Connect to Server/Windows share, put in the IP... it says "cannot display location smb://<IP>" no application is registered as handling this file
[05:51] <Antwort> nope
[05:52] <Dark_Shikari> I installed samba, still no dice
[05:52] <Antwort> i wanna fix this because it randomly pops up and covers text
[05:52] <sysdoc> n2diy, u still around?
[05:52] <Antwort> even when im typing it
[05:52] <n2diy> brusteve, cltr+alt+F1, F2, F3 etc....
[05:52] <gizmo> i dont know how to log-in my shell if not using putty
[05:52] <dnyy> If I install Ubuntu-Server on my laptop, then transfer the b43-fwcutter.deb file to it via usb and run it, will it set up my wireless, or do I need more/different packages?
[05:52] <sysdoc> anyone see this mess?? chown: invalid group: `root:tty'
[05:52] <sysdoc> chgrp: invalid group: `adm'
[05:52] <sysdoc> chown: invalid group: `polkituser:polkituser'
[05:52] <brusteve> qr: yeah, me neither, I want to use a method or a tool that kind of taps into the TTY and allows listening for what is being typed in there AND/OR allows me to type something in it while it is already open on another computer > final result being when someone types, I see it and when I type they see it
[05:52] <hwilde> willis__,  that's the odd thing I only see X :0
[05:52] <gizmo> i dont know how to log-in my shell if not using putty
[05:53] <brusteve> n2diy: wow, you totally misunderstand what i'm trying to do
[05:53] <russ5811> hi all, i've got a file in my trash bin that I can't delete. I tried emptying the trash and deleting it permanently via right click to no avail. I tried gksudo nautilus and it won't give me access to the trash bin. any suggestions?
[05:53] <CentHOGG> splater gators
[05:53] <willis__> hwilde,  i never use the seprate X display settings. I just tell twinview sot use one WIDE display and i drag windows back/forth all the time.. You DO have to restart the X server the first time you enable twinview i recall
[05:53] <n2diy> brusteve, not unsual. :)
[05:53] <Antwort> the green and black breaks in display are annoying the hell out of me
[05:53] <qr> brusteve: I don't know of any tool that does that.  Comedy option: set all your users shells to screen and then you can watch them that way :)
[05:54] <Antwort> im on ubuntu right now
[05:54] <brusteve> n2diy: thanks for the effort though
[05:54] <hwilde> willis__, I have two application menus at the top and two clocks and two logoffs, but in the process list I only have display :0    I can't force firefox to DISPLAY=localhost:1
[05:54] <n2diy> brusteve, gl
[05:54] <brusteve> qr: not an option
[05:54] <sysdoc> Hey guys I have found the same problem that I'm having in the forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5574235 has anyone seen this problem before
[05:54] <brusteve> n2diy: thx
[05:54] <qr> brusteve: hence why it's the comedy option.
[05:54] <willis__> hwilde,  no idea on that then. i never use  twinview that way.
[05:55] <willis__> hwilde,  i have one panel/clock/logoiff and its ont he left side..
[05:55] <hwilde> willis__, ok right so you would think I have two x servers, but i only see one.    Error: cannot open display: localhost:1
[05:56] <willis__> hwilde,  twinview may be some how bypassing that method
[05:57] <kevdog> Whos got thuh goods tonight?
[05:57] <hwilde> willis__, no I think it is application dependent since shell and text editor and kasteroids work on both, but firefox is user session
[05:57] <willis__> hwilde,  no idea then. when in doubt check the twinview docs I guess.
[05:57] <Dark_Shikari> well, I decided to use SSH instead to transfer the file
[05:57] <hwilde> willis__, firefox issue not twinview
[05:57] <Dark_Shikari> quick, someone recommend a CD burner for ubuntu
[05:57] <hwilde> !k3b
[05:57] <hwilde> !burn
[05:58] <kevdog> Dark_Shikari: hayudware or software?
[05:58] <xorlim> what is the bonobo program?
[05:58] <hwilde> !info bonobo
[05:58] <n8tuser2> brusteve-> umm, why would you want to do such a thing?  you type a word, and in the middle i interrupt as im also typing, both what you type and i type gets displayed, so we cant even tell what you and i typed
[05:58] <Dark_Shikari> kevdog: software
[05:58] <Dark_Shikari> in ubuntu
[05:58] <qr> xorlim: it's part of gnome's seedy underbelly
[05:58] <Dark_Shikari> for burning an iso
[05:58] <qr> xorlim: that's really all you want to know about it probably
[05:59] <itai-michaelson> n8tuser2, the guide i'm following asks me to create a new dir within the /tftpboot/ dir, but installing tftpd didn't create it, or maybe i'm looking in the wrong place?
[05:59] <qr> xorlim: it's really not pretty stuff
[05:59] <kevdog> iz thayure uh dvd shrink or dvd decryptor actual alternative program?
[05:59] <spr0k3t> kevdog: acidrip
[05:59] <n8tuser2> itai-michaelson-> create one if it has not yet
[05:59] <spr0k3t> kevdog: also, handbrake
[05:59] <incubii> Dark_Shikari, use Braesero
[05:59] <itai-michaelson> n8tuser2, i mean there is no /tftboot/ at all
[05:59] <xorlim> qr: yeah, I just read on the net it's "reusable components" of the system, language independent.
[05:59] <kevdog> spr0k3t: acidrip replaces whut?
[06:00] <Dark_Shikari> incubii: not in ubuntu's repos... bah, I just want something simple to do a 5 minute job
[06:00] <spr0k3t> kevdog: dvdshrink
[06:00] <DarkFuzion> wazzzup
[06:00] <incubii> Dark_Shikari, its in Intrepid in default install
[06:00] <kevdog> dvd decrypter replacement?
[06:00] <n8tuser2> itai-michaelson-> well create one if it has not yet done so
[06:00] <DarkFuzion> onetinsoldier:sup sup
[06:00] <Dark_Shikari> that's because its called brasero
[06:00] <xorlim> qr: "Definition: bonobo: The GNOME Bonobo System. Bonobo is a set of language and system independent CORBA interfaces for creating reusable components (controls) and creating compound documents." -- http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/bonobo.htm
[06:00] <Dark_Shikari> thx
[06:00] <itai-michaelson> n8tuser2, ok, tks
[06:00] <aiuw> I just inversed the colors of the terminal by pressing a few keys, I forget what though
[06:00] <aiuw> How do I change it back
[06:00] <spr0k3t> kevdog: as in decss?
[06:01] <kevdog> spr0k3t: YES!
[06:01] <incubii> kevdog, vobcopy will copy the DVD to your HDD without the encryption
[06:01] <n8tuser2> aiuw-> reboot
[06:01] <spr0k3t> kevdog: set up the medibuntu repos.
[06:01] <DarkFuzion> anyone have anythought on an Emachine??????
[06:01] <DarkFuzion> laptop
[06:01] <spr0k3t> DarkFuzion: I have many thoughts on those things.
[06:01] <kevdog> anythin' more fully featured an easier tuh use than vobcopy?
[06:01] <incubii> DarkFuzion, link?
[06:01] <n8tuser2> aiuw-> actually, i dont know if  tput  reset will reset such
[06:01] <CentHOGG> emachines alot on craigslist
[06:02] <aiuw> I just closed the window and opened it again
[06:02] <kevdog> Sorry about the talkfilter
[06:02] <incubii> kevdog, Handbrake, OGMRip
[06:02] <DarkFuzion> no i was wondering if anyone have a emachine lappy
[06:02] <spr0k3t> kevdog: acidrip... it's very simple and allows queing.
[06:02] <n8tuser2> DarkFuzion-> i have a one, desktop though
[06:02] <DarkFuzion> are they good?
[06:02] <kevdog> acidrip in the repos?
[06:02] <spr0k3t> yes
[06:02] <kevdog> or compile install from source -- is that more fully featured?
[06:02] <DarkFuzion> causae i sold my acer ferrari
[06:02] <n8tuser2> DarkFuzion-> good enuff
[06:02] <spr0k3t> DarkFuzion: I've not heard anything good about the emachine lappys
[06:02] <DarkFuzion> peace of dooodle poo
[06:03] <DarkFuzion> so they are ppoopy
[06:03] <netyire> hi all, anyone know what alsa 'devices' are? any way to list the devices?
[06:03] <n2diy> ! lappys
[06:03] <n8tuser2> DarkFuzion-> it was given to me for free, so i cant complain :P
[06:03] <spr0k3t> however, I just purchased a system76 darter and it's the beez neez
[06:03] <CentHOGG> :P
[06:03] <hwilde> netyire, cat /proc/asound/cards   or something like that
[06:03] <n2diy> what'slappys
[06:03] <netyire> hwilde: thanks :-)
[06:03] <n2diy> what's lappys
[06:04] <spr0k3t> n2diy: lappys = laptop
[06:04] <CentHOGG> <1995 Kapok
[06:04] <DarkFuzion> yeah gt rid of my acer ferrari it kept freezing on me
[06:04] <n2diy> spr0k3t, ah, ic
[06:04] <hence> i''m trying to figure out ndiswrapper with rtl8187 chipset, i've been all over the forums, any advice?
[06:04] <spr0k3t> the acer ferrari is only a name.
[06:04] <DarkFuzion> and crappy
[06:04] <kevdog> if I pull my networking card out (pcmcia slot) is there anyway to plug it back in and make ubuntu rescan the bus to allow it to use it -- short of rebooting?
[06:04] <spr0k3t> nod
[06:04] <n2diy> spr0k3t, thanks
[06:04] <transporter> can somebody help me to know whether the graphics card that i have is it compatible with ubuntu
[06:05] <spr0k3t> np n2diy
[06:05] <spr0k3t> transporter: which card?
[06:05] <hwilde> transporter, you know you can just try the livecd without installing anything
[06:05] <n2diy> ! hardware transporter
[06:05] <kevdog> Ill bet its not compatible ;)
[06:05] <n2diy> ! hardware
[06:05] <transporter> spr0k3t: i can send u my screenshot of my terminal
[06:05] <DarkFuzion> ion the 12th day a cristmas mt true love nerd gave to me 12 packs of dvd rw
[06:06] <spr0k3t> !pastebin transporter
[06:06] <ice_cream> just paste i think
[06:06] <spr0k3t> grr...
[06:06] <kevdog> pcmcia bus rescan?
[06:06] <DarkFuzion> ubuttu a nerdy bot
[06:06] <spr0k3t> nods
[06:06] <ice_cream> !paste > ice_cream
[06:06] <ice_cream> yep it's paste
[06:06] <spr0k3t> ah, nods
[06:06] <ice_cream> !paste > transporter
[06:07] <spr0k3t> danke
[06:07]  * ice_cream nods
[06:07] <ice_cream> you also use nods? =D
[06:07] <ice_cream> i kinda picked it up from some text-based mmorpg heh
[06:07] <n2diy>  whoa, my first xchat upload, what to do now?
[06:07] <spr0k3t> yups... and I also use <GD&R> as well.
[06:08] <ice_cream> o.O  idk what that is
 stands for grinning ducking and running.
[06:08] <spr0k3t> it's very old 1337
[06:08] <DarkFuzion> icecream and sprinkles on top
[06:08] <ardchoille> !ot
[06:09] <DarkFuzion> brb gotta reboot
[06:09] <ice_cream> you couldve just said 'ot'
[06:09] <DarkFuzion> ot
[06:09] <ice_cream> didnt need to involve the bot
[06:09] <DarkFuzion> lol
[06:09] <spr0k3t> I hate it when the bot goes OT
[06:10] <razaccour> is there a good voice chat application for linux thats free?
[06:10] <xorlim> spr0k3t: svenska språket?
[06:10]  * ice_cream goes to watch a flick
[06:10] <MHz128> help! is there a guide for using Patch cables to transfer files between 2 machines?
[06:10] <spr0k3t> xorlim: ja... but not really
[06:10] <xorlim> spr0k3t: ok
[06:10] <razaccour> is there a good voice chat application for linux thats free?
[06:11] <n2diy> razaccour, nothing is free, but with linux, you can pay it back later.
[06:11] <DarkFuzion> heres a laptop emachine on craigslist i thinking about getting
[06:11] <spr0k3t> xorlim: I can barely read svenska, but I know just enough to get killed on the streets.
[06:11] <DarkFuzion> http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/961798610.html
[06:11] <alesan> re
[06:11] <xorlim> spr0k3t: wow! that's bad!
[06:11] <ganja> is there a tool to import itunes library to a good opensource media player ?
[06:11] <razaccour> Ubuntu is free
[06:11] <alesan> what is the common way to download flash videos from a webpage?
[06:11] <alesan> !flash
[06:11] <DarkFuzion> ATI Radeon™ Xpress 1200 Graphics with up to 1919MB of HyperMemory™ (256 MB of dedicated system memory, up to 1663 MB of shared system memory), supporting Shader Model 2.0
[06:11] <spr0k3t> alesan: flashgot works good through firefox.
[06:12] <alesan> spr0k3t, is that a firefox addon?
[06:12] <spr0k3t> nod
[06:12] <ardchoille> !youtube-dl | alesan
[06:12] <alesan> spr0k3t, nod means not?
[06:12] <gizmo> what is the other funciton of youbuntu?
[06:12] <ardchoille> !info youtube-dl
[06:12] <gizmo> *ubuntu
[06:12] <DarkFuzion> you tube redtube
[06:12] <spr0k3t> alesan: nod means I am nodding my head yes.
[06:12] <transporter> can u please tell me whether this graphics card is compatible with ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/89019/
[06:12] <alesan> ardchoille, it is not youtube, but another porn site
[06:13] <n2diy> Rasccour, no, its not. Your time and attention are invested in it, along with everyone else that plays with Linux.
[06:13] <alesan> spr0k3t, ok good to know I am not native english speaker I do not know all the idioms :)
[06:13] <Bulko> ganja: try projects on fresh meat or sourceforge
[06:13] <ardchoille> alesan: That type of discussion is not welcome here
[06:13] <spr0k3t> transporter: the Intel 965 chipset works fantastic
[06:13] <genii> transporter: Yes, the Intel 965 is good with linux
[06:13] <transporter> spr0k3t
[06:14] <transporter> technically i should not be facing any problems with it
[06:14] <spr0k3t> transporter: the graphics drivers for most Intel chipsets are open source and well developed.
[06:14] <Doonz> is there a way in the shell i can see what % im at in formatting a device to a new filesystem?
[06:14] <n2diy> Rasccour, you come here asking questions, but you'll leave giving answers.
[06:14] <alesan> ardchoille, sorry %s/porn/pr0n/g
[06:14] <transporter> spr0k3t: for some awkward reason i am facing tons of flash issues
[06:14] <transporter> and slow browser issue
[06:14] <spr0k3t> transporter: 32bit or 64bit?
[06:15] <transporter> 32 bit hardy
[06:15] <ardchoille> alesan: Please keep the channel family friendly
[06:15] <spr0k3t> transporter: open firefox and in the address bar type "about:plugins"
[06:15] <spr0k3t> transporter: scroll down and tell me what version of flash you are running.
[06:15] <gizmo> can i change the colour of my terminal..to black?
[06:16] <transporter> spr0k3t: my computer almost crashed because of the flash
[06:16] <spr0k3t> gizmo: edit/profiles - background tab
[06:16] <n2diy> gizmo, yes, check out "man bash"
[06:16] <transporter> spr0k3t: technically what happened was that it became very smooth and everything worked great
[06:16] <ardchoille> gizmo: yes, in terminal, click Edit > Profiles. Then edit the profile you are using, go to the Colors tab
[06:16] <transporter> spr0k3t: now it is back as before
[06:16] <hence> i'm having trouble with ndiswrapper with rtl8187b chipset, i'm running intrepid x64
[06:17] <spr0k3t> transporter: hmm... very odd. I'm wondering if it's the version you are currently using.
[06:17] <alesan> spr0k3t, from where can I get that plugin?
[06:17] <spr0k3t> alesan: tools/add-ons/"get add-ons", search for "flashgot"
[06:17] <alesan> yes thanks
[06:18] <transporter> spr0k3t: what version of what?
[06:18]  * spr0k3t loves the flexibility of mozilla.
[06:18] <TimReichhart> could anybody please help me setting up SSL
[06:18] <spr0k3t> transporter: the version of flash.
[06:18] <transporter> spr0k3t: i will check that out for u
[06:19] <spr0k3t> transporter: did you pull open the "about:plugins" page in firefox?
[06:19] <TimReichhart> could anybody please help me setting up SSL
[06:20] <transporter> spr0k3t : Shockwave Flash
[06:20] <transporter>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[06:20] <transporter>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15
[06:20] <transporter> MIME Type 	Description 	Suffixes 	Enabled
[06:20] <transporter> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[06:20] <FloodBot1> transporter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:20] <transporter> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[06:20] <spr0k3t> transporter: dude, I only needed "10.0 r15"
[06:21] <n2diy> Timmothy, do you know the ip of your target box?
[06:21] <TimReichhart> yes I do
[06:21] <gizmo> how to close the "man bash" after using
[06:21] <hischild> gizmo, hit q
[06:21] <iam> aRa
[06:21] <n2diy> TimReichhart, can you ping it?
[06:21] <transporter> spr0k3t: meet me in pvt chat
[06:21] <TimReichhart> why would i need to ping it?
[06:22] <TimReichhart> im trying to setup the SSL
[06:22] <gizmo> who know about using irssi?
[06:22] <hence> should i be looking somewhere else for help with ndiswrapper or the rtl8187b driver?
[06:22] <gizmo> i just one to know how to close the window of irssi
[06:22] <n2diy> TimReichhart, to see if your box can talk to it+
[06:22] <TimReichhart> talk to what
[06:23] <hischild> TimReichhart, whatever box you're pinging to.
[06:23] <Ltl> gizmo: /window close
[06:23] <n2diy> TimReichhart, your trying to ssh right?
[06:23] <TimReichhart> what does pinging have to do with setting up SSL cert?
[06:23] <gizmo> to scroll up?
[06:23] <hischild> n2diy, you do know the difference between SSL and SSH right?
[06:23] <gizmo> and scroll down
[06:23] <sugi> looking to play my Nintendo 64 roms on ubuntu.  any tips guys?
[06:23] <hischild> gizmo, try man irssi
[06:24] <Ltl> gizmo: page-up page-down !
[06:24] <n2diy> hischild, the secure shell uses the secure layer, no?
[06:24] <jooooker1> i have a big problem to TUNE a FRQ in my DVB card: FE_SET_TONE failed: Connection timed out, and i must to use modprobe -r b2c2-flexcop command to fix it.
[06:24] <gizmo> ok thanks
[06:24] <CaneToad> has anyone noticed with Flash under Linux [unlike under windows] that quite a lot of sites end up putting the pull down menus UNDER things instead of over things?
[06:24] <CaneToad> eg:  menus at http://www.digicelpng.com/mobile_phones/index_v4.php?manufacturer=9
[06:24] <CaneToad> http://www.bigpond.com/homepage/
[06:24] <CaneToad> http://www.leadtek.com/eng/default.asp#
[06:24] <TimReichhart> all I am trying to do is setup SSL certs for my domains
[06:24] <hischild> n2diy, SSL is used for https
[06:25] <Ltl> n2diy: no, SSL is for https authentication secure socket layer.
[06:25] <ardchoille> CaneToad: It's been that way for a while
[06:25] <CaneToad> ardchoille, I guess report bugs to adobe?
[06:25] <n2diy> ok, I'm wrong, and over my head.
[06:25] <Shpook> Hello everyone. I installed Ubuntu Eee on my daughters 900A from a USB stick. BUT...now, when GRUB loads, it says no files found. I have to boot from the USB install drive, then it boots into the installation on tthe hard drive. Is there a way to fix it without re-installing?
[06:25] <alesan> I noticed that the newly created processes in Ubuntu tend to have a PID that is show "in the middle" when using ps ax
[06:26] <ardchoille> CaneToad: It's been reported to Launchpad, but you could try to Adobe
[06:26] <alesan> while all my previous linux experience just placed latest processes at the bottom of ps ax giving the highest PID
[06:26] <gizmo> wow i make my background transparent..
[06:26] <gizmo> lol
[06:26] <alesan> how can I disable this strange ubuntu behaviour?
[06:26] <alesan> gizmo, so you can see the inside of your monitor?
[06:26] <gizmo> yeah abit..
[06:26] <gizmo> its ok..but i enjoy it..
[06:26] <frybye> anybody using a creative labs audigie SE 7.1 sound card with intrepid???
[06:27] <CaneToad> ardchoille, heh, the problem shows up with the menus at http://www.adobe.com/support/
[06:27] <hischild> TimReichhart, you googled for it? --> http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html
[06:27] <theflea> hello everyone
[06:27] <TimReichhart> will that work for doing 2 different domains there hischild?
[06:27] <ice_cream> alesan, in the middle..?
[06:28] <rdakin> anyone have a favorite web-based email management gui?
[06:28] <jooooker1> i have a big problem to TUNE a FRQ in my DVB card: FE_SET_TONE failed: Connection timed out, and i must to use modprobe -r b2c2-flexcop command to fix it.
[06:28] <hischild> TimReichhart, please elaborate, i do not fully understand.
[06:28] <alesan> ice_cream, yes, if you start firefox, and do ps ax, it will show in line 50 when the output of ps ax is 100 lines
[06:28] <alesan> there is a huge number of "daemon" processes with high PID
[06:29] <theflea> ok, i cant get grub to work right. the computer is butting straight in windows
[06:29] <hischild> alesan, you mean you want the high PID's to be given out to new processes?
[06:29] <ice_cream> are you saying you want firefox to start with a certain high PID?
[06:29] <jooooker1> i have a big problem to TUNE a FRQ in my DVB card: FE_SET_TONE failed: Connection timed out, and i must to use modprobe -r b2c2-flexcop command to fix it anytime!!!!!
[06:29] <alesan> hischild, well, yes, or to give "normal" PIDs to those daemon processes.
[06:29] <gizmo> how to test my webcam is working or not?
[06:30] <alesan> hischild, in short, I'd like PIDs to be assigned in a sequence
[06:30] <alesan> so when I do a ps ax I will see the newly created processes at the bottom of the list
[06:30] <DarkFuzion> ola back again
[06:30] <genii> !info cheese | gizmo
[06:30] <alesan> without having to |less too much
[06:30] <MadCowBoy> hischild, can you edit /boot/grub/grub.conf ?
[06:31] <hischild> alesan, the PID's given to the daemon's are also normal. You can't expect the kernel to give out PID's from low to high, it'd run out of numbers incredibly soon. Every script, every program that's opened no matter how long, will use at least 1 and probably more PID's.
[06:31] <hischild> MadCowBoy, wrong nick?
[06:31] <hence> when i use ndiswrapper my wireless device disappears, i've trolled the forums but found nothing to help.  what next?
[06:31] <theflea> ok, i cant get grub to work right. the computer is butting straight in windows i have tried to reset it
[06:31] <Shpook> I installed Ubuntu Eee on an Eee 900 from a USB stick. Now to boot the installation on the hard drive, I have to boot from the USB stick first. Is there a way to fix this?
[06:31] <gizmo> genii and the commnd is 'sudo ap-get install cheese'?
[06:31] <Ltl> jooooker1: blacklist that module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:31] <genii> gizmo: sudo apt-get install cheese                            or else use Synaptic
[06:32] <MadCowBoy> ya bud sorry, theflea do you have access to your /boot/grub/grub.conf file
[06:32] <hischild> alesan, in the end it'll have such huge numbers you can't remember them or on long term solutions run out of them.
[06:32] <jooooker1> Ltl: Tanks, but after sudo modprobe -r b2c2-flexcop-pci ....... i must use sudo modprobe b2c2-flexcop !!!
[06:33] <theflea> ok, i cant get grub to work right. the computer is butting straight in windows i have tried to reset it
[06:33] <jooooker1> i need a way to fix this problem.
[06:33] <genii> !grub | theflea
[06:33] <theflea> sorry didnt see you replay
[06:33] <theflea> yes i have tried that
[06:33] <MadCowBoy> theflea, what OSes do you boot?
[06:33] <Shpook> Yeah, I'm having GRUB issues too I think.
[06:33] <theflea> windows and ubuntu
[06:34] <theflea> install windows first
[06:34] <derklempner> Is there a way to auto-mount a shared partition/folder on another networked computer running Ubuntu?
[06:34] <Ltl> jooooker1: add it in /etc/modules , better read instructions for your version ubuntu.
[06:34] <theflea> and then ubuntu so i could load grub
[06:34] <Dr_willis_> derklempner,  if t You mean a windows /samba/smb share - Yes..
[06:35] <theflea> madcowboy the screen flickers before widows starts as if grub is trying to load but failds
[06:35] <genii> derklempner: Or nfs, doesn't matter. Make an fstab entry either way
[06:35] <Dr_willis_> You can define samba shares to get mounted at boot time in the /etc/fstab file
[06:35] <derklempner> Dr_willis_: How do I know if it's being shared through Samba?
[06:35] <MadCowBoy> sounds right, try that link ubottu provided,
[06:35] <Ltl> theflea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:35] <jooooker1> Ltl: Thanks, but HOW???
[06:35] <Dr_willis_> derklempner,  you havent told us anything about whats shareing it.. what os/how, or anything... so What is shareing it?
[06:35] <alesan> hischild, what are you saying :) that would be true only if no process terminates
[06:36] <Shpook> is there a GRUB channel? I really need to try to get this fixed before tomorrow
[06:36] <genii> Dr_willis_: He said on another ubuntu box
[06:36] <MadCowBoy> Ltl needs "recovering ubuntu after installing Ubuntu"
[06:36] <Ltl> jooooker1: just edit in the module name in the respective file
[06:36] <alesan> and the behaviour I am describing has been the default of every distribution I've used before I had to convert to ubuntu
[06:36] <hischild> alesan, ofcourse not. You want PID's to be given out alphabetically, but how can it go back then?
[06:36] <MadCowBoy> Shpook, whats yours doing?
[06:36] <Dr_willis_> genii,  the way i read it.. his one machine he was wanting to access the share from was ubuntu, not the other...   But hes vague.. :)
[06:37] <gizmo> so how to open my cheese in terminal that i have download?
[06:37] <Ltl> MadCowBoy: never need too.
[06:37] <genii> Dr_willis_: Ah, yes, was a bit ambiguous. I read it the other way
[06:37] <alesan> hischild, when a process terminates, his PID will be returned and reused
[06:37] <derklempner> Sorry, two ubuntu systems.  Main computer has a partition set up as /av-stuff.  Satellite computer is an older system, hooked up to my AV equipment, and I want to have access to everything on the /av-stuff partition (including read AND write access) from the satellite computer.
[06:37] <hischild> alesan, which is exactly what it is doing right now.
[06:37] <Ltl> gizmo: vlc is better if it likes your camera.
[06:37] <alesan> no
[06:37] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hey guys, i have an issue with my SD card, when I hook my camera up to my laptops usb port it shows up, but when I plug the card directly into the built in reader it doesnt do anything
[06:37] <MadCowBoy> I know, but he said that he installed Ubuntu After windows, shouldn;t be a problem...
[06:37] <telaviv> Shpook i think GRUB has been out of development for years
[06:37] <theflea> so anyone had any idea why grub will not load
[06:37] <theflea> lol
[06:37] <alesan> because there are some processes that are given a very high PID at boot
[06:37] <gizmo> Ltl: i already install cheese
[06:37] <Dr_willis_> genii,  some times its like pulling teeth in here to get answers to the questions.. so we can give answers to the questions... :)
[06:37] <gizmo> so how?
[06:37] <Ltl> gizmo: from the menu, cheese
[06:38] <theflea> madcowboy yeah
[06:38] <theflea> thats why i did it that way
[06:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> what should i do?
[06:38] <alesan> 31543 ?        S<     0:02 [nfsd]
[06:38] <genii> Dr_willis_: Good thing I'm going to sleep soon then....
[06:38] <Shpook> MadCowBoy: Well, I installed Ubuntu EEE from a USB stick...but to boot the OS on the hard drive, I have to boot from the usb stick
[06:38] <theflea> i can but ubuntu from the cd?
[06:38] <Ltl> gizmo: applications - graphics - cheese
[06:38] <tommystarman> http://nfriedly.com/eoc/354116/whatever.gif
[06:38] <alesan> no way I can have 30000+ processes at one given time at boot before user login
[06:38] <jooooker1> Ltl: ls /etc/modutils/ ----------> setserial !!!!!! which respective file ????!
[06:39] <MadCowBoy> theflea, your sure you installed windows first, and unbuntu afterwards, right?
[06:39] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:39] <gizmo> Ltl: no camera found..
[06:39] <silv3r_m00n> i am looking for a web development tool which has features like ftp upload etc
[06:39] <ohletmeinnowgodd>  hey guys, i have an issue with my SD card, when I hook my camera up to my laptops usb port it shows up, but when I plug the card directly into the built in reader it doesnt do anything...what should I do?
[06:39] <theflea> MadCowBoy, yes
[06:39] <gizmo> what is that..
[06:39] <Shpook> If I try booting from the hard drive, it says files not found, Once booted from the USB stick, i can remove it, and all is fine.
[06:39] <MadCowBoy> if you have a live disk, I think the link that Ltl provided should set up your grub just fine.
[06:40] <MadCowBoy> Shpook, do you have grub on the MBR of the hard drive?
[06:40] <gizmo> Ltl: no camera found in my cheese
[06:40] <theflea> MadCowBoy, thank you let me try it out
[06:40] <sugi> what's a good nintendo 64 emulator for ubuntu?
[06:40] <MadCowBoy> K bud, no prob, thank Ltl
[06:41] <theflea> madcowboy can you resend that link
[06:41] <ohletmeinnowgodd> <----- Need help with mounting SD card in ubuntu
[06:41] <Ltl> jooooker1: /etc/modules to load modules at boot, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to not load a module
[06:41] <Shpook> MadCowBoy: I assume so, grub loads, but just says no file found when I load the default kernel.
[06:41] <MadCowBoy> two secs.
[06:41] <gizmo> anyone can help me..why my webcam is not working.camera not found..
[06:41] <derklempner> I guess I just want to know if there's a Samba-like file sharing system native to Ubuntu so I can share directories between two Ubuntu machines?
[06:41] <MadCowBoy> theflea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:41] <nite_johnboy> Hi - What is the shell command to find current linux kernel installed ? ?
[06:42] <hischild> nite_johnboy, uname -a
[06:42] <bullgard4> nite_johnboy: uname -r
[06:42] <theflea> madcowboy: trying it now
[06:42] <gizmo> anyone can help me..why my webcam is not working.camera not found..
[06:42] <nite_johnboy> hiuschild; Need to write it down this time - thanks much.....
[06:42] <Dr_willis_> derklempner,  samba can do that, or use nfs, better.. or use sshfs  if you want.
[06:42] <CntrySheepFahker> Hello ya'll
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[06:43] <hischild> Dr_willis_, sshfs is so easy to use.
[06:43] <Ltl> nite_johnboy: uname -a
[06:43] <nite_johnboy> bullfard4; Difference between the -r & -a switch ?