[04:48] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: yes I got that far in page http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=106608  but still am an ideot to find the file in step 1
[04:48] <r007> coz_ I know where your coming from nothing like people who know shit about servers want something deployed live instanttly
[04:48] <paissad> guys, i added my id_rsa.pub into my server
[04:48] <paissad> but when i ssh to my server, i'm now prompted to enter a passphrase
[04:48] <paissad> Enter passphrase for key .....
[04:48] <paissad> how can i avoid such a thing ?
[04:48] <FloodBot2> paissad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <rinku_kokiri> Merry mithras << sarcasm
[04:49] <KM0201> mithras?
[04:49] <coz_> r007,  my  thinking keeps them on their toes for backing up which is my main lesson for them
[04:49] <rinku_kokiri> yep, ncient Persian god of light and truth; sun god
[04:49] <KM0201> uh, ok
[04:49] <rinku_kokiri> ^^ what saturnalia was originally for
[04:49] <r007> coz_ good strategy lol
[04:49] <zr0> does anyone here use the touchpad on their laptop to tap-click? i still can't figure out why mine is dropping 25% of my taps..
[04:49] <rinku_kokiri> dec 25 an all
[04:49] <XiaolinDraconis> download the deb pack and u can skip all steps
[04:50] <pj`> heh i run ff beta 8 then delete it and it mess my old ff all up. had to right click , customize , restore defaults.
[04:50] <XiaolinDraconis> sacarlson, get the deb version
[04:50] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: I found that at the bottom at http://gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=106608&id=10&tan=61615834  and get error 404
[04:50] <pj`> it must change your .mozilla config files
[04:51] <rinku_kokiri> i had nothing wrong so far
[04:51] <rinku_kokiri> both work fyne
[04:51] <rinku_kokiri> although i opted to NOT update my add-ons
[04:51] <pj`> lots of my addons didnt worky
[04:51] <r007> end of the day no need to run the latest firefox unless you really want the new feautures as the ubuntu one will be patched for holes
[04:51] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: maybe they have a mirror site?
[04:51] <rinku_kokiri> ^^ hence why i opted to NOT update them :D
[04:52] <rinku_kokiri> it's still a beta = non production
[04:52] <coz_> sacarlson,   you are tyring to install this theme?
[04:52] <XiaolinDraconis> sacarlson, im getting the same page i got mine from
[04:52] <XiaolinDraconis> sacarlson, thats not the link i used
[04:52] <pj`> ubuntu come with version 3.6 so 4.0 isnt that far i dont think
[04:53] <XiaolinDraconis> sacarlson, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis+Theme+Pack?content=108882
[04:53] <sacarlson> coz_: ya
[04:53] <XiaolinDraconis> use that version
[04:53] <XiaolinDraconis> it doesnt include usplash so u wont get an error
[04:53] <coz_> sacarlson,  ok it installed here easily... are you having issues downloading it?
[04:53] <r007> dont pay attention to versions in Linux they will be that version but will be patched up security wise
[04:54] <sacarlson> XiaolinDraconis: ok I got that one
[04:54] <coz_> XiaolinDraconis,  sorry dont mean to just butt in on this  ,,, I was curious what the issue is
[04:54] <XiaolinDraconis> its usplash included in the file he got
[04:54] <XiaolinDraconis> that version was meant for ubuntu 8
[04:55] <sacarlson> coz_: yes the problem was a site problem but the link that XiaolinDraconis: gave me worked perfect thanks
[04:55] <coz_> ok
[04:55] <XiaolinDraconis> np
[05:00] <Demolitio> merry christmas everyone! (or whatever other holidays you celebrate).
[05:00] <Demolitio> Just struck midnight in my timezone.
[05:01] <coz_> Demolitio,  h appy holidays
[05:01] <r007> merry xmas
[05:02] <Weems> I need to install libxevie1 and libxevie-dev in Lucid but it's not on the repos. Can I use the karmic?
[05:02] <cowslammer> what is the tool that sets the default java to use?
[05:02] <Weems> cowslammer: set the path
[05:03] <amit> when i write "who" to my terminal it shows two output as       amit     tty7         2010-12-25 10:12 (:0)
[05:03] <amit> amit     pts/0        2010-12-25 10:30 (:0.0)
[05:03] <amit>     how this is possible
[05:03] <cowslammer> Weems, there is a tool that explicity sets it
[05:04] <Weems> cowslammer: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
[05:04] <jey> how can I find out what processes are causing my system load to be high? whatever it is it's not CPU bound because it doesn't show up in 'top' when sorting by CPU
[05:04] <cowslammer> amit that says you are using a terminal window under x
[05:04] <Weems> jey: use top
[05:04] <Weems> go to a terminal
[05:04] <jey> which sort do I use?
[05:04] <Weems> and type in "top"
[05:04] <Weems> you dont need to sort
[05:04] <jey> sigh
[05:04] <amit> cowslamner: plz explain actually m new user
[05:04] <Weems> it shows you the top process by default
[05:04] <cowslammer> jey try htop (run from a terimal and go full screen)
[05:04] <Weems> thus the name top
[05:05] <jey> guys, it's not CPU bound, but something is in the runqueue causing system load to be > 1.0
[05:05] <jey> e.g. something is doing a lot of I/O
[05:05] <cowslammer> jey check out top of htop
[05:06] <amit> cowslammer:plz explain sir!
[05:06] <jey> weird, init is the top item. next one is plymouthd... which is apparently the login manager
[05:06] <FloridaGuy> is ubuntu x86x64 a true 64 bit...or a 32 bit compiled to 64 bit
[05:06]  * skraito say hi all
[05:06] <cowslammer> what is the tool that shows which processes are doing i/o?  it's written in python
[05:06] <jey> cowslammer: thanks
[05:07] <cowslammer> amit it just shows you that you are using a terminal - what more can be said?
[05:07] <amit> cowslammer: ok
[05:08] <trism> cowslammer: iotop?
[05:08] <jey> cowslammer: is it normal for /sbin/init to be at the top of the 'htop' output? i thought init just spends most of its time sleeping post-boot
[05:10] <KM0201> FloridaGuy: true 64bit as far as i know.. i can't imagine it being the other way.
[05:10] <nirazio> How can I view/start Java Web Start Applications that I have Installed?
[05:11] <coz_> nirazio,   right click the application exectuable and choose sun java webstart
[05:12] <systematical> having problems with the usb-creator-gtk package
[05:12] <systematical> says failed to install boot loader
[05:13] <systematical> looks like this is a known bug on version 0.2.23, newer version 0.2.8 fixes this, but I can't seem to get the newest version via apt
[05:14] <rusivi> systematical: In maverick newest version of usb-creator-gtk is 0.2.25
[05:14] <rusivi> systematical: available via apt-get
[05:15] <administrator_> ??
[05:17] <FloridaGuy> KM0201: thanks
[05:18] <KM0201> np
[05:18] <administrator_> 汉字
[05:19] <jarnos> updating my ubuntu failed
[05:19] <KM0201> !ch | administrator_
[05:19] <KM0201> !zh
[05:20] <administrator_> thanks
[05:21] <jarnos> I can't even run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"; it claims file system is read only.
[05:22] <jarnos> as for dpkg status area
[05:25] <systematical> i just had to wipe the usb disk first i guess
[05:26] <TuXeS> Merry Christmas ALL!
[05:28] <TuXeS> "Oh Holy Night"
[05:29] <jammin> merry christmas
[05:30] <rs0832> merry christmas, to all here
[05:31] <microsoft> re
[05:32] <microsoft> ау
[05:32] <microsoft> есть тут кто по русский )
[05:34] <TuXeS> Let earth receive her KING
[05:39] <karthick87> All of a sudden none of my commands working in terminal..What may be the problem??
[05:41] <karthick87> Now my terminal has double in it “karthick@Ubuntu-desktop:/home/karthick~$ “
[05:41] <rinku_kokiri> did you happen to change your hostname??
[05:41] <rinku_kokiri> without changing your hosts file?
[05:42] <sasquatch> hi
[05:42] <karthick87> rinku_kokiri: Yes i din make any changes
[05:42] <hd1> I got wifi working only to change the networks and have it break (again)
[05:42] <nooonickman> i need help, when i installed ubuntu i named i guess the workstation or something my name, james ... im trying to change that. I have changed the user name (admin) to something diff but everyting still reflects that original choice, my hold folder
[05:42] <nooonickman> main login page
[05:42] <rinku_kokiri> looks like you're ssh'd into yourself ..... O_o
[05:42] <nooonickman> can i fix this without having to reinstall?
[05:42] <karthick87> rinku_kokiri: How to fix??
[05:43] <hd1> nooonickman: no, you must get a whole new computer setup, of course :)
[05:43] <rinku_kokiri> open a new terminal see if it looks different
[05:43] <Guest54556> Hi all, so I just learned how to crack my own WEP wireless encryption, what cool things can I do from here? My network is a desktop and a couple laptops. Any fun ideas to learn?
[05:43] <rinku_kokiri> learn how to flip web pages upside down using ur router
[05:43] <nooonickman> Guest54556, first change your nick
[05:43] <rinku_kokiri> lol
[05:44] <rinku_kokiri> rofl
[05:44] <hd1> Guest: yes, try "sudo halt -p
[05:44] <hd1> "?
[05:44] <nooonickman> Guest54556, packet capturing using wireshark
[05:44] <karthick87> rinku_kokiri: All the terminals looks same..Recently i executed this in terminal "source .bashrc"
[05:44] <Guest54556> nooonickman: what does that entail? sounds fun.
[05:44] <Guest54556> hd1: will look into it thanks.
[05:45] <hd1> no... just type it in, you fool )
[05:45] <hd1> :)
[05:45] <karthick87> rinku_kokiri: Thank you i got it working :)
[05:45] <rinku_kokiri> how so?
[05:46] <nooonickman> Guest54556, can you please change your nick, type /nick newnickman
[05:46] <rinku_kokiri> hedon't have to?
[05:46] <rinku_kokiri> it's easier to distinguish between uniquenick and guest####  but it's not required
[05:46] <sasquatch77> nooonickman: better :) ?
[05:46] <nooonickman> sasquatch77, thanks
[05:47] <nooonickman> sasquatch77, wireshark is pretty easy, read their docs .. basically you can capture their packets and track what others are doing online, unencrypted chats
[05:47] <sasquatch77> nooonickman: Like seeing what they are visiting on the web and what not?
[05:48] <rinku_kokiri> ^^ u will only see wireless clients
[05:49] <rinku_kokiri> anything more and it's borderline against the rules of this channel
[05:49] <an0maly_> what?
[05:50] <rinku_kokiri> if you're using a wireless connection while running wireshark (with no wired connection) you will ONLY SEE  other wireless connections, no wired connections...
[05:50] <rinku_kokiri> unless you have a program on your router that feeds you data
[05:51] <nooonickman> rinku_kokiri,  im pretty sure there are methods to attack the router to feed you the wired connect information
[05:51]  * skraito anyone interested to start project in c++ for load balancer please private message me
[05:51] <an0maly_> rinku you could configure your adapters for monitoring traffic
[05:51] <nooonickman> sasquatch77, yeah
[05:51] <rinku_kokiri> nooonickman, like i said, if you have a program installed on the router, .. you *could* do that yes, but we *should not speak* of that here
[05:52] <an0maly_> it could be wifi or wired
[05:52] <rinku_kokiri> there's other places to learn about that, that does not put us at liability
[05:52] <nooonickman> rinku_kokiri, fair enough, for the sake of channel rules, sasquatch77 your best bet is to d/l and use backtrack
[05:52] <nooonickman> its what your looking for, its great
[05:52] <rinku_kokiri> yep ^^
[05:52] <sasquatch77> nooonickman: cheers
[05:52] <an0maly_> ok ok bye
[05:52] <nooonickman> sasquatch77, you will thank me later
[05:52] <an0maly_> quit
[05:52] <karthick87> rinku_kokiri: It was coz of the configuration i have just made recently to my .bashrc file..
[05:53] <an0maly_> lol
[05:57] <TuXeS> King of Kings and Lord of Lords!
[05:57] <nirazio> How to disable the shadow of the top Gnome panel?
[06:00] <Know1edge> Hey guys, does the windows installer create a partition, etc for me?
[06:01] <xerox780> when your installing windows clean it gives you the option
[06:01] <Know1edge> I mean using wubi
[06:02] <squishy> Know1edge, iirc, ubuntu through Wubi installer creates one rather large file inside an existing partition
[06:02] <squishy> that file acts as a virtual hard drive
[06:03] <Know1edge> Any performance issues with that?
[06:04] <tief> using wubi, you can try it without harm your sistem, and if you don't like it, you can uninstall it from windows control panel
[06:04] <Know1edge> ok gonna reboot
[06:08] <nirazio> How to disable the shadow of the top Gnome panel?
[06:09] <marion> Hello people
[06:09] <TuXeS> Merry Christmas marion
[06:10] <marion> Merry christmas TuXes
[06:10] <TuXeS> ty
[06:10] <marion> Does anybody know if it is possible to run pc games on linux? The wife got a copy of sims3 and wants to run it
[06:11] <aroman> hello all. How can I, from terminal, create a link to a folder? I know ln -s is for files, but I need folders. Thanks!
[06:11] <justyellowboy> Aroman, isn't it ln -d ?
[06:12] <justyellowboy> If not that, try ln -t
[06:12] <justyellowboy> Found it in the man pages.
[06:12] <aroman> justyellowboy, The manpage says that's a hard link, and that it will most likely fail :P
[06:14] <justyellowboy> Hm. -t only specifies directories in which to create links. I dunno, I'm too luser to know this, right now. I apologize for being unhelpful. :c
[06:14] <aroman> justyellowboy, ah, and that requires that I have the source folder, i guess
[06:14] <aroman> justyellowboy, no worries. We'll figure it out :)
[06:14] <sacarlson> aroman: I think ln -s /path/to/folder  will work try it
[06:14] <Lance_Buzz> Hi guys I just completely wiped my HDD to DOD standards then installed windows 7 to Dev/SDA 1 and kubuntu to Dev/SDA 2 now i have the grub boot loader then if i boot windows 7 i get the windows boot loader, now i want to remove grub and add kubuntu to the windows boot loader anyone know how?
[06:15] <aroman> sacarlson, I thought that was just for files? i'll try it.
[06:15] <sacarlson> aroman: I think I forgot the . at the end ln -s /path/to/folder .
[06:16] <aroman> sacarlson, huh?
[06:16] <justyellowboy> http://uw714doc.sco.com/en/FD_files/Getting_to_a_file.html
[06:16] <justyellowboy> Try that if nothing else works.
[06:16] <aroman> rofl
[06:16] <aroman> justyellowboy, it's probably just normal ln without params.
[06:16]  * aroman tries it
[06:17] <Lance_Buzz> Did you see my post?
[06:17] <aroman> justyellowboy, sacarlson, without params gives: ln: `elementary-mono-dark': hard link not allowed for directory
[06:18] <jwz> 111
[06:18] <Lance_Buzz> ↑↑↑↑↑↑
[06:18] <jwz> 有人在吗
[06:18] <arvind_khadri> Lance_Buzz, you cant do that
[06:18] <Lance_Buzz> ive done it before i just forgot how
[06:19] <jwz> oh my god，all english
[06:19] <sacarlson> aroman: when i tried ln -s /home/freenet2 .  ; I now get: lrwxrwxrwx 1 sacarlson sacarlson 14 2010-12-25 13:17 freenet2 -> /home/freenet2
[06:19] <aroman> sacarlson, ditto. But I can't $cd to it.. can you?
[06:20] <sacarlson> aroman: that's because you don't have permisions in the folder try sudo cd /path/to/folder
[06:20] <aroman> sacarlson, you can't sudo cd things :/
[06:20] <cast> surely you can, :\
[06:21] <cast> [just that it's rather pointless]
[06:21] <aroman> i'm pretty sure you cant: avi@Ubuntu-iMac:/usr/share/icons$ sudo cd elementary-mono-icons
[06:21] <aroman> sudo: cd: command not found
[06:21] <aroman> i'll try chmoding it
[06:21] <rigved> aroman: you need to chroot to it. not sudo cd
[06:21] <sacarlson> aroman: I sudo su ; then  #cd /my/path  and yes I can cd into it.  if you what that user to have priv add him to the group of that folder
[06:22] <aroman> oh I got this now. Because it's in a folder only root can get to, only root can cd into it.
[06:22] <cast> aroman: hmm, good point, i understand now/why :)
[06:22] <aroman> cast, :)
[06:23] <cast> aroman: cd is always a shell builtin, because making it otherwise would not result in the shell changing it's cwd,
[06:23] <aroman> i don't even need to cd to it, I don't think. This whole thing is so that my themes/icons stay automatically up-to-date with bzr
[06:23] <sacarlson> aroman: I'm not sure who owns the folder it could be user2 but it's just not you
[06:23] <aroman> wait, even as root I can't cd into it. it says no such file or directory :/
[06:24] <sacarlson> aroman: so are you sure the link you created exists?
[06:25] <aroman> alright I got it working.
[06:25] <sacarlson> aroman: I should say are you sure the folder you linked to exists?
[06:26] <aroman> What I did was create the symlink in the folder that I wanted to symlink to, NOT as root. Then I just sudo cp -R'd it to the destination. I suspect this worked because there's something wacky that happens when you create a symlink as root
[06:27] <sacarlson> aroman: I guess that works,  I use nautilus to create links in a similar maner
[06:27] <aroman> sacarlson, yeah, i guess nautilus is probably easier, but I like figuring out the cmd-line way. Thanks for your help!
[06:27] <aroman> rigved, justyellowboy, ^^
[06:27] <sacarlson> aroman: no problem
[06:29] <sunrize> i have a problem on compiling a java applet program....it is giving the error like this :::::::::::::simple.java:7: warning: The serializable class simple does not declare a static final serialVersionUID field of type long
[06:29] <sunrize> 	public class simple extends Applet {
[06:30] <sunrize> help me please
[06:30] <sunrize> ???????
[06:30] <pksadiq> sunrize: it's to be asked at #java , I think
[06:30] <rigved> aroman: i came online after justyellowboy's comment. so i cannot see it
[06:31] <sacarlson> rigved:  I beleave they have exited the chat
[06:31] <sunrize> pksadiq, how to join that channel
[06:31] <rigved> sacarison: oh ok.
[06:32] <pksadiq> sunrize: /join #java
[06:32] <rigved> sacarison: are you hidden or something? i cannot use tab to auto-complete your name...???
[06:33] <pksadiq> rigved: I think it's sacarlson ,
[06:33] <JackStoner> hello, i need help to setup wifi on a broadcom card, i enabled the closed drivers but it doesnt help
[06:33] <sacarlson> rigved: I've had other people say the same thing,  when I log out and in it seems to fix that
[06:33] <tief> Hey guys, i can't use my cam in flash app like chatroulette, n one know how to solve it, please?
[06:33] <rigved> pksadiq: still not working :(
[06:34] <pksadiq> rigved: but works for me, are you using TAB itself??
[06:34] <sunrize> tief, then try to install cheese
[06:34] <rigved> pksadiq: i use sacarl and then tab, still not working
[06:35] <pksadiq> rigved: try closing the app and relogin
[06:35] <rigved> sacarlson: also, i cannot see you in my user list
[06:35] <rigved> pksadiq: ok.
[06:35] <tief> i already did it, it works fine, amsn too. The main problem is using flash.
[06:36] <pksadiq> JackStoner: try sudo modprobe broadcom
[06:36] <kyle_> 64-bit Windows 7 Professional x64 ISO http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65805/X15-65805.iso
[06:37] <giantpune> hey boys, i have a noob question here.  i have been using ubuntu for a while now and got everything working the way i want it.  and i just got a shiney SSD that i would like to use as the system drive.  i see a few different methods online for moving an instalation to another partition, but most are years old and assume that the new partition is at least as big as the old one
[06:37] <SN4K3> quit
[06:38] <cast> giantpune: using LVM?
[06:38] <giantpune> lvm?
[06:38] <pksadiq> lvm
[06:38] <pksadiq> !lvm
[06:38] <adnap> hello, i just downloaded the latest 64-bit ubuntu ("about ubuntu" says it's 11.04) and have downloaded and enabled the broadcom wireless sta driver.  however, i still don't have a wireless interface and am unable to click "enable wirless" on the toolbar.  can anyone help with this issue?
[06:38] <cast> giantpune: paste the line in /etc/fstab for /
[06:39] <AbhiJit> adnap, #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <giantpune> UUID=63bf99fe-d3a5-4243-8023-ccbfb70668ad	/	ext4	errors=remount-ro	0	1
[06:39] <kyle_> 64-bit Windows 7 Professional x64 ISO http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65805/X15-65805.iso
[06:39] <adnap> AbhiJit: why is that channel preferable?
[06:39] <pksadiq> AbhiJit: hi, you are here, enjoying the holidays at IRC? ;)
[06:39] <sacarlson> giantpune: I guess just create a partition on your new ssd and mount it to like /mnt  then just sudo cp -a / /mnt, then install grub2,  think that might work?
[06:40] <cast> sacarlson: ahh, no
[06:40] <AbhiJit> pksadiq, no holiday. still busy in exam
[06:40] <cast> giantpune: and what does blkid|grep '63bf99fe-d3a5-4243-8023-ccbfb70668ad' say?
[06:40] <sacarlson> cast: giantpune: your right that won't work, you need to not have what you copy mounted first
[06:40] <cast> sacarlson: oh, it won't work for other reasons
[06:41] <pksadiq> AbhiJit: busy with exams? and are you here to learn you syllabus ;)?
[06:41] <kyle_> 32-bit Windows 7 Professional x86 ISO http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmsft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net%2Fmsvista%2Fpub%2FX15-65804%2FX15-65804.iso&session_token=9rT2g3Ao1OT4o9puRLCFpOzQghF8MTI5MTY5NTAxMQ%3D%3D
[06:41] <giantpune> cast, it doesnt say anything
[06:41] <sacarlson> cast: that assumes you only have your system installed on root,  what other reasons?
[06:41] <AbhiJit> pksadiq, :p
[06:41] <pksadiq> kyle_: please keep mum,or say something good
[06:42] <cast> giantpune: doh :(, let me ask another way, what device does / sit on? :) [df]
[06:42] <giantpune> wait, if i do it with root i get this...  /dev/sdb3: UUID="63bf99fe-d3a5-4243-8023-ccbfb70668ad" TYPE="ext4"
[06:42] <cast> ahh, there we go
[06:42] <cast> if people got with the program and used LVM we could move to the SSD without any downtime...:(
[06:43] <cast> sacarlson: well for a start, he'd have to fix his fstab
[06:43] <adnap> #ubuntu+1 is a bit dead right now, so i would appreciate any help i can get here.
[06:43] <sacarlson> cast: yes your right you would need to boot from a live cd or other mount the two or more partitions then sudo cp -a /mntorg /mntnew
[06:43] <sunrize> adnap, there is no such ubuntu 11.04 yet released?
[06:43] <kyle_> http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65805/X15-65805.iso windows 7 64-bit
[06:44] <sacarlson> cast: wow you might be correct there to,  I thought those uuid's would work for that but again I am wrong since his new disk id wouldn't match
[06:44] <pksadiq> !11.04 | sunrize
[06:44] <cast> sacarlson: you could shrink the FS and dd it over
[06:45] <sacarlson> cast: and that would keep the uuid?
[06:45] <adnap> sunrize: is that a question?  when i downloaded the iso from the website, it said "ubuntu 10.10", but "about ubuntu" says i'm using 11.04.  i'm not sure what to believe.  can i type something on the command line to see the version?
[06:45] <cast> sacarlson: the bootloader bit gets interesting though, he'd likely want one on the SSD
[06:45] <cast> sacarlson: yeah, UUID is set during the mkfs step, i believe
[06:45] <Poshepocket> Erm.  But what is a kernel and how do I know which version or whatever I have?
[06:46] <AbhiJit> Poshepocket, uname -r
[06:46] <adnap> ah, yes.  "cat /etc/issue" says i'm using 10.10.
[06:46] <Poshepocket> OH. THAT THING. Thanks  AbhiJit
[06:46] <sacarlson> cast: just reinstall the grub2 when it was all in place to his new shiny ssd after all the files were present
[06:46] <sunrize> ubottu, but the latest release is 10.10.i think so
[06:46] <adnap> so, i suppose that his is the appropriate channel.  can anyone help me with my wireless?
[06:47] <adnap> *this
[06:47] <cast> Poshepocket: kernel is the thing that manages the interface between applications and hardware
[06:47] <cast> erm, s/manages/provides
[06:47] <kyle_> http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65804/X15-65804.iso windows 7 32-bit
[06:48] <Know1edge> Wine runs mirc pretty good :P
[06:48] <adnap> Know1edge: irssi is where it's at :)
[06:49] <Know1edge> Yeah I like irssi too
[06:49] <Know1edge> Used to use xchat alot
[06:49] <sandking> hi
[06:49] <rallias> What do I need to allow RuneScape to play in OpenGL mode?
[06:49] <sandking> somebody can tell me how to fix echo of ubuntu menu staying on my display?
[06:50] <manlymat183> Question - I installed 10.10 with just the USB key fob.  It told me I should be online but at the time of the installation I wasn't, so that had an X next to it.  Once I completed the installation, I got on wireless and ran the updates - did I miss anything?
[06:50] <pksadiq> Know1edge: I love everything text based UI, like nvlc, mplayer, irssi, mp3blaster, elinks, w3m, links etc
[06:50] <rallias> manlymat183: Some restricted av codecs, thats all.
[06:50] <giantpune> so is there not anything like remastersys that can create an installer .iso from my existing system?  remastersys works great except it limits my to 4GB
[06:51] <EvilPhoenix> lemme confirm something: rsync --recursive /path/dirA /path/dirB  will copy dirA to dirB and overwrite everything in dirB with the data in dirA?
[06:51] <pksadiq> !remaster
[06:52] <adnap> so, does this silence mean that nobody knows how to fix my wireless issue, or should i repeat my question?
[06:52] <EvilPhoenix> !repeat
[06:52] <EvilPhoenix> adnap:  i'd wait a bit to see if anyone comes around and sees your prior post
[06:53] <rallias> adnap: What is your issue?
[06:53] <adnap> well, i wouldn't be here if i had found the answer on the internet.
[06:53] <adnap> i can wait.  that's fine.
[06:53] <adnap> rallias: i'll repeat it one more time.  i hope nobody minds.
[06:53] <adnap> hello, i just downloaded the latest 64-bit ubuntu ("about ubuntu" says it's 11.04) and have downloaded and enabled the broadcom wireless sta driver.  however, i still don't have a wireless interface and am unable to click "enable wirless" on the toolbar.  can anyone help with this issue?
[06:53] <arunkumar413> hi, i had some issues with grub. currently i'm in live cd mode of 10.10. plz help me to restore my grub boot menu
[06:54] <rallias> adnap: Does the wireless card work without the driver?
[06:54] <adnap> okay, that information is no longer correct.  i have confirmed that i am actually running ubuntu 10.10.
[06:54] <adnap> rallias: no
[06:54] <adnap> rallias: it doesn't work with or without it.
[06:55] <rallias> adnap: Try using iwconfig without the driver, and if that doesn't work, try it with the driver.
[06:55] <adnap> rallias: with the driver, it says "no wireless extensions".
[06:55] <adnap> rallias: i will disable the driver now.
[06:56] <quellhorst> so I did sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:56] <quellhorst> but i'm still running 9.1... how do i get to 10.x ?
[06:56] <EvilPhoenix> quellhorst:  its sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i think
[06:56] <adnap> rallias: while i'm waiting, why do you suspect that it might work without a driver?
[06:57] <arunkumar413> how to restore grub
[06:57] <_xol22> How can i force grub-update (grub-mkconfig) to run properly from usb live ?   (getting errors about not finding a device for '/')
[06:57] <nomad99> !grub > arunkumar413
[06:57] <EvilPhoenix> can someone answer a question about rsync?
[06:58] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: sure
[06:58] <rallias> adnap: Because sometimes they work and they don't announce blabity blab that they do.
[06:58] <_xol22> the installer completed for the most part but left grub completely hosed and i can't even run grub-update from chroot :|
[06:58] <rallias> adnap: Sometimes it just isn't enabled by default
[06:58] <TuXeS> OH NIGHT DIVINE!  Jesus is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS!  Christmas Food Court Flash Mob, Hallelujah Chorus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXh7JR9oKVE
[06:59] <rallias> !offtopic TuXeS
[06:59] <arunkumar413> nomad99: i'm in live cd mode of 10.10. I lost grub boot menu.plz help me
[06:59] <quellhorst> EvilPhoenix: that didn't do anything
[06:59] <hifi> EEE901 glxgears is skipping, something is wrong, any hints?
[06:59] <TuXeS> ofcourse it is
[06:59] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  I'd like to confirm something: rsync --recursive /path/dirA /path/dirB  will copy dirA to dirB recursively and overwrite everything in dirB with the data in dirA?  and by adding the -pEt flags, I can also preserve most of the chmod settings?
[06:59] <TuXeS> its xmas though
[06:59] <joaquin> windows 7 rules!!
[06:59] <adnap> rallias: okay, this is sort of interesting: when i uninstall the driver, my wireless interface (eth1) doesn't even show up with iwconfig.
[07:00] <sunrize> arunkumar413, i best idea i can give from my side is just reinstall ubuntu again
[07:00] <rallias> adnap: In synaptic, look up linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless
[07:00] <adnap> rallias: when the driver is installed, it says "eth1: no wireless extensions"
[07:00] <rallias> adnap: So basically its a battle to get it recognized as a wireless device.
[07:00] <cgcardona> i am totally new to ubuntu/linux and am messing around with an ubuntu distro on linode - can someone point me to documentation that explains the ubuntu folder structure breakdown? (bin, boot, dev, etc....)
[07:00] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: no, might be sudo grub-install helps
[07:00] <Myrtti> TuXeS: keep it elsewhere though, please
[07:01] <TuXeS> blah blah
[07:01] <cgcardona> it seems like the /bin/ directory is commands?
[07:01] <TuXeS> Jesus will get ya >:)
[07:01] <Know1edge> how can I open a file explorer window from terminal to the current path I am in?
[07:01] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: yeah, it'll overwrite everything unless it's there already, and then it usually overwrites with the delta I beleive
[07:01] <pksadiq> Know1edge: nautilus .      will help
[07:01] <quellhorst> EvilPhoenix: or maybe i just need to run the same upgrade again.
[07:01] <quellhorst> because now its downloading again
[07:02] <adnap> rallias: okay, i've got a bunch of results for that query
[07:02] <pksadiq> cgcardona: the export    command will help you a little
[07:02] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  so lets say that in dirA there's files a,b,c,d.  and I rsync that recursively to dirB.  Then later add files e,f,g to dirA, and modify file a.  Will it copy e,f,g to dirB and rewrite dirB/a with dirA/a (which was modified since the first rsync)?
[07:03] <sunrize> Know1edge, cd  /foldername/subfolder/
[07:03] <rallias> adnap: Install linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic and linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic-pae
[07:03] <alexfpms> TuXeS, off topic again
[07:03] <EvilPhoenix> quellhorst:  i upgrade versions every few versions, but i usually do it for LTS releases
[07:03] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: though last time I did a recursive rsync, for a directory such as /crap/sql to /crapb/whereIwantedsqltobe I ended up with a 'crap/sql' dir in my /crapb/whereIwantedsqltobe
[07:03] <TuXeS> blah blah blah
[07:03] <cgcardona> pksadiq: I'm not really sure what that did
[07:04] <Know1edge> sunrize: thats to change directory, I was trying to open a nautilus window -- pksadiq helped me
[07:04] <TuXeS> sudo apt-get purge off topic
[07:04] <TuXeS> lol
[07:04] <adnap> rallias: should i leave the driver from the "additional drivers" utility uninstalled?
[07:04] <pksadiq> cgcardona: see the PATH variable, that gives all the path of executables,
[07:04] <rigved> EvilPhoenix: yes. it will add the new files as well
[07:04] <rallias> adnap: Yes, for the moment
[07:04] <pksadiq> cgcardona: enough to use echo $PATH
[07:04] <EvilPhoenix> rigved:  and provide the modifications done to dirA/a to dirB/a?
[07:04] <EvilPhoenix> in the hypothetical
[07:05] <adnap> rallias: and do you mean "linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.36-maverick-generic" and "''-pe"?
[07:05] <adnap> rallias: *pae
[07:06] <Maahes> !clone
[07:06] <rallias> adnap: no. Remove the kernel number.
[07:06] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: if you have perms and executability parms, yes I believe. Though if you've modified A, and A is pretty huge on another system...you may want to use --partial in case of connection resets
[07:06] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  assume its all localhost files
[07:06] <EvilPhoenix> and no remote files
[07:06] <rigved> EvilPhoenix: the backup is performed in a incremental way. so if file a in DirA is modified, only the changes are sent to the file a in DirB. so now both files in DirA and B are the same after the backup
[07:06] <EvilPhoenix> ah so I see :)
[07:07] <EvilPhoenix> thanks
[07:07] <adnap> rallias: okay, the first one exists, but i don't see the pae one without a kernel number.
[07:07] <rallias> adnap: Then ignore it.
[07:07] <arunkumar413> grub>find /boot/grub/stage1 command not working in 10.10 live cd mode.
[07:07] <adnap> rallias: don't install it
[07:07] <adnap> ?
[07:07] <rallias> adnap: I don't know if it is super important, so don't.
[07:07] <adnap> rallias: alright
[07:08] <dnivra> hello. i updated by grub to generate a new config file and it doesn't detect my background. here is the my 05_debian_theme file. why isn't the image being detected and added to grub.cfg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/547405/
[07:08] <dnivra> my* not by
[07:08] <rigved> arunkumar413: you need to chroot the system on the hard disk, i think, before running the command
[07:09] <dnivra> i can confirm that the file exists and has been used before as splash screen for grub2 from the very same path unaltered.
[07:09] <adnap> rallias: okay, i've installed the package
[07:09] <rallias> adnap: Now try the normal wifi steps.
[07:09] <adnap> rallias: can you be specific?  i don't know what you mean.
[07:09] <adnap> rallias: iwconfig still does not give a wireless interface.
[07:09] <rallias> the notification bar... iwconfig... iw
[07:10] <nutrapi> Question regarding Ubuntu kernel install from generic-pae to linux-image-server or linux-image-virtual. I've tried installing both, and still get '2.6.32-27-generic-pae' from `uname -a`
[07:10] <arunkumar413> rigved: plz tell me how to do it to restore my grub configuration
[07:10] <Maahes> !automate
[07:10]  * skraito brb
[07:10] <rallias> nutrapi: Thats normal.
[07:10] <TuXeS> hm, ph33r isnt h33r i see
[07:10] <rigved> !grub2 | arunkumar413
[07:10] <rigved> arunkumar413: follow these instructions
[07:11] <jcarlin> anybody know how I would get word out about my open source wallpaper rotator?
[07:11] <adnap> r
[07:11] <adnap> whoops
[07:11] <nutrapi> rallias: what happened? It's been a while since I've used ubuntu servers as at work I generally use centos and ubuntu as a desktop...Didn't it used to report '-server' ?
[07:11] <adnap> rallias: i don't have an "enable wireless" option on the toolbar.
[07:11] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: do you use windows?
[07:11] <AgrahamDesktop> http://xkcd.com/838/
[07:11] <AgrahamDesktop> epic
[07:11] <rallias> adnap: Right click edit connections
[07:11] <Maahes> okay is there a version of sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install > my-packages ; sudo aptitude install :: Except to *remove* the packages? Simply changing install to remove does not do it
[07:11] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: no
[07:11] <Myrtti> !offtopuc | AgrahamDesktop
[07:11] <adnap> rallias: okay
[07:12] <dnivra> i also find that the default resolution is not detected from /etc/default/grub. i set it to 1600x900 but no mention of a resolution at all.
[07:12] <adnap> rallias: there is no interface listed under the wireless tab.
[07:12] <dnivra> in grub.cfg that is
[07:12] <Myrtti> !offtopic | AgrahamDesktop
[07:12] <rallias> Go into wifi, add connection, fill out the pertinant info
[07:12] <sacarlson> arunkumar413: maybe try this if you have grub2 installed and have problems booting http://paste.ubuntu.com/547404/
[07:12] <TuXeS> hehe
[07:12] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: i have some other ubuntu versions. i'm trying to istall boot loader to a separate boot partition
[07:12] <yagoo> Can I manually make my usb-boot install by using dd of .iso to the usb drive directly ?
[07:12] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: what does it show when you boot from hard disk?
[07:12] <Maahes> Myrtti: do you happen to have any idea? You were the one that pointed me to !clone
[07:12] <adnap> rallias: i don't have the information to enter the info manually.
[07:12] <TuXeS> oh Night Divine.
[07:12] <Myrtti> TuXeS, this channel is for ubuntu support only, we've got way too much traffic here to have it added on with seasons greetings, so for the usability reasons, I repeat: please keep to the topic of Ubuntu support
[07:12] <EvilPhoenix> !offtopic
[07:12] <rallias> adnap: aircrack-ng it then.
[07:12] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: it opens like this "grub>"
[07:13]  * yagoo says santa just burped in my living room
[07:13] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: which ubuntu are you using?
[07:13] <yagoo> Can I manually make my usb-boot install by using dd of .iso to the usb drive directly ?
[07:13] <TuXeS> lol, yagoo. did he bring you anything?
[07:13] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: currently i'm in 10.10 live cd mode
[07:13] <adnap> rallias: i don't know what that is.  i'll have to look it up.  can you explain why you think it will be possible to connect without a wireless interface?
[07:14] <rigved> arunkumar413: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide <----- this might help also. i think it is more better
[07:14] <rallias> I think that you need to reinstall the thing from additional drivers
[07:14] <chid> hi, I'm getting huge dmesg logs (and rsyslog using very high cpu) when trying to transfer files via crossover with proftpd
[07:14] <chid> I'm getting log message like this, [ 9624.521531] Unknown InputIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:16:76:5f:24:b1:00:14:22:ad:38:26:08:00 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=47180 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=32847 DPT=21 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 ACK URGP=0
[07:14] <chid> whenever there's a transfer
[07:14] <yagoo> chid, and ?
[07:14] <chid> yagoo, how do I stop these from getting logged?
[07:14] <EvilPhoenix> rigved:  nutrapi:  is there a way to sync over the deletes that were done in /path/dirA over to /path/dirB?  Assuming that a file had been deleted since the prior rsync
[07:14] <rallias> chid: Then turn off logging.
[07:15] <chid> what is it logging?
[07:15] <dnivra> i updated my grub to generate a new config file and it doesn't detect my background. here is the my 05_debian_theme file. why isn't the image being detected and added to grub.cfg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/547405/. i also find that the default resolution is not detected from /etc/default/grub. i set it to 1600x900 but no mention of a resolution at all in grub.cfg.
[07:15] <yagoo> chid, comeon... check the proftpd manual ;-)
[07:15] <nutrapi> So is there any way that I can tell if I'm using the linux-image-virtual kernel if uname no longer reports the kernel variation and instead just continually reports 'generic-pae'?
[07:15] <rallias> Google "Disable dmesg logs"
[07:15] <chid> yagoo, is this really a proftpd log?
[07:15] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: in terminal try sudo grub-install --no-floppy root=</media/yourroot directory> /dev/sda where sda is your hard disk
[07:15] <chid> well, I don't want to disable all logs
[07:15] <chid> just these ones
[07:15] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: wait, before that
[07:15] <Maahes> I also tried cat my-packages | sudo aptitude remove but that is also not installing anything
[07:15] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: try sudo update-grub
[07:15] <rallias> chid: What dmesg logs do you need?
[07:16] <adnap> rallias: i will have to come back tomorrow.  i have to go to bed now.  thanks for trying to help!
[07:16] <yagoo> chid, you probably can disable logging.. check the manpage for the switch
[07:16] <rallias> adnap: Sorry I couldn't
[07:16] <bikcmp> hi all. How do I use dd to copy a ISO that I have onto a usb drive? (mounted at /dev/sdc1)
[07:16] <chid> yagoo, I doubt it's proftpd
[07:17] <adnap> rallias: np
[07:17] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: I think you can just use the --delete param
[07:17] <chid> rallias, can't seem to find a way to disable dmesg logs :/ or a site rather
[07:17] <pksadiq> bikcmp:sudo dd if=path/to/iso of=/dev/sdc1
[07:17] <yagoo> bikcmp, there are frontends for that.. but i too was asking the same question.. i'm betting you can but for  "/dev/sdc" << nothing else absolutely nothing else should be on the usb drive (and assuming you 100% /dev/sdc is your usb drive)
[07:17] <bikcmp> pksadiq: thanks so much :)
[07:17] <jcarlin> anybody know how I would get word out about my open source wallpaper rotator?
[07:17] <bikcmp> yagoo: thanks too.
[07:17] <rallias> chid: Can't help you there. Sorry.
[07:18] <rallias> So back to my question from an hour ago, What packages do I need to install to enable OpenGL mode in runescape?
[07:18] <yagoo> chid, try man proftpd.conf or 'apropos proftp'
[07:18] <bikcmp> pksadiq: wait, it's in /media/someid.  Would I do of=/media/8727848 or w/e?
[07:18] <rigved> EvilPhoenix: use the --delete-before switch.
[07:18] <bikcmp> or /dev/sdc1
[07:18] <pksadiq> bikcmp:it installs to the first partition of your drive, to remove partitions and install onto usb trysudo dd if=path/to/iso of=/dev/sdc , but I think it's not good
[07:18] <chid> yagoo, proftp makes a log to a file
[07:19] <chid> what I'm getting isn't proftpd's fault
[07:19] <EvilPhoenix> rigved:  thanks
[07:19] <pksadiq> bikcmp: first umount it then do with /dev/sdc1
[07:19] <bikcmp> pksadiq: think it's not good?
[07:19] <bikcmp> pksadiq: umount it?
[07:19] <bikcmp> i think it's already mounted
[07:19] <pksadiq> bikcmp: I mean unmount it
[07:19] <yagoo> chid, that's not really a ubuntu question.. apparently you don't know how to use the console.. you should :)
[07:19] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: cant understand it
[07:19] <bikcmp> pksadiq: how would I do that, i'm sorry :P
[07:19] <rigved> EvilPhoenix: not sure if that's what you are looking for, but it the only switch that comes anywhere close to what you want!
[07:20] <bikcmp> trying to make sure i do this right :P
[07:20] <nutrapi> rigved: yeah --delete-before is a better option, with most people running in vm's and hosted vps environments now.
[07:20] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: in terminal type sudo update-grub /media/your_ubuntu_partition/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:20] <rigved> nutrapi: :)
[07:20] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: i would like to install booting information all on a separate partition.tell me how to do u
[07:20] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: in terminal type sudo update-grub -o /media/your_ubuntu_partition/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:20] <bikcmp> okay, so, assuming the path for the iso is right...
[07:20] <bikcmp> sudo dd if=/home/jason/iATKOS_v7/iATKOS_v7/iATKOS_v7.iso of=/dev/sdc1
[07:20] <bikcmp> correct?
[07:20] <dnivra> i updated my grub to generate a new config file and it doesn't detect my background. here is the my 05_debian_theme file. why isn't the image being detected and added to grub.cfg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/547405/. i also find that the default resolution is not detected from /etc/default/grub. i set it to 1600x900 but no mention of a resolution at all in grub.cfg.
[07:20] <bikcmp> not sure how to unmount it though
[07:20] <pksadiq> bikcmp: yes
[07:20] <yagoo> omfg
[07:21] <EvilPhoenix> rigved:  if you're aware of how git repos work, so like when you delete blah.file.that.was.in.the.last.push, the destination (i.e. the git repository) removes that file since its not in the most recent push.
[07:21] <bikcmp> pksadiq: it needs to be unmounted though?
[07:21] <rallias> BTW: Vendetta Online has a current price of 0.00 atm.
[07:21] <bikcmp> pksadiq: could you tell me how to unmount it?
[07:21] <yagoo> he's has a f hackintosh .iso .. kick bikcmp
[07:21] <bikcmp> yagoo: heh
[07:21] <Maahes> anyone have an idea of how to execute the reverse of this: sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install > my-packages ; sudo aptitude install . I've tried just replacing install with remove and I've tried cat my-packages | sudo aptitude remove and sudo aptitude remove > my-packages . Apt starts okay, finds 0 packages to change, and exits
[07:21] <pksadiq> bikcmp: try sudo umount /media/mountedone
[07:21] <bikcmp> i have a ton of copies of mac os x
[07:21] <EvilPhoenix> rigved: nutrapi: that's kinda what I need: a backup of dirA put into dirB, and any deletions from dirA since the last rsync to be applied to dirB too.
[07:21] <bikcmp> pksadiq: okay.  It needs to be unmounted for dd to work?
[07:22] <pksadiq> bikcmp: yes,
[07:22]  * yagoo says bikcmp is not asking how to make ubuntu usb installer but a Hackintosh install usb
[07:22] <Myrtti> yagoo, please mind your language
[07:22] <bikcmp> okay, unmounted.
[07:22] <dnivra> Maahes, try this; not sure if it will word-"cat my-packages | xargs sudo aptitude remove"
[07:22] <dnivra> work*
[07:22] <bikcmp> yagoo: :p
[07:22] <yagoo> Myrtti, that's illegal what he's asking.. you're an idiot if you support this
[07:22] <ron_> anyone know how to get 3d acceleration to work on ati radeon xpres 200m card
[07:22] <cdbs> !language | yagoo
[07:22] <Maahes> dnivra: thank you! that worked
[07:22] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: backups are what rsync does well :)
 sudo dd if=/home/jason/iATKOS_v7/iATKOS_v7/iATKOS_v7.iso of=/dev/sdc1
[07:22] <yagoo> " "
[07:22] <yagoo> ^^
[07:23] <dnivra> Maahes, np :)
[07:23] <bikcmp> yagoo: and?
[07:23] <pksadiq> !radeon | ron_
[07:23] <bikcmp> yagoo: i have a *ton* of mac os x licenses.
[07:23] <bikcmp> :)
[07:23] <bikcmp> trust me, i'm sure apple won't care.
[07:23] <yagoo> Myrtti, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATKOS <<< now go read some wikipedia fyi
[07:23] <cdbs> !macos | bikcmp
[07:23] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  indeed. so --delete-before would do what I really need in terms of erasing files that are in dirB but are no longer in dirA?
[07:23] <yagoo> omg
[07:23] <bikcmp> cdbs: heh, i like ubuntu too :P
[07:23] <rigved> EvilPhoenix: ok i read the manual. it's the same as what you want. --delete is also a good option but --delete-before deletes before the backup starts. it is better to do a --dry-run once atleast to see what will happen. then you can set it be done automatically.
[07:23] <cdbs> !apple | bikcmp
[07:24] <bikcmp> cdbs: well, it's actually related to ubuntu, since my node that i'm copying it on is a ubuntu node :P
[07:24] <bikcmp> hehe
[07:24] <bikcmp> k, thanks pksadiq :)
[07:25] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: i did this "sudo grub-install /media/bootdrive",where bootdrive is the name of my seperate boot partiton.
[07:25] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: I would take rigved's suggestion of doing a dry-run as well, it never hurts and leaves your data in tact
[07:25] <EvilPhoenix> indeed
[07:25] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: -vhz are params I often pass as well
[07:26] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  v = verbose, what's hz?
[07:26] <dnivra> i updated my grub to generate a new config file and it doesn't detect my background. here is the my 05_debian_theme file. why isn't the image being detected and added to grub.cfg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/547405/. i also find that the default resolution is not detected from /etc/default/grub. i set it to 1600x900 but no mention of a resolution at all in grub.cfg. i guess none of the files in /etc/grub.d/ are being detected?
[07:26] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: by the time you're done, your rsync command should look properly ridiculous with parameters :)
[07:26] <EvilPhoenix> h and z*
[07:26] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  lool
[07:26] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: if you are trying to install grub to a new partition you must label it us bootable in system> admini..> disk utility
[07:26] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: -h = human readable format for numbers (mb/s, etc), and -z = compression with zlib
[07:27] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: if you're doing transfers locally, compression isn't necessary
[07:27] <EvilPhoenix> ooh nice... but i need it to be non-compressed because i need to be easily able to cp the files back to the orginal folder without compression :P
[07:27] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  since its all localhost on the VPS
[07:27] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: the compression is just for transfer, not for the stored format
[07:28] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  ah, well its just localhost -> another point on localhost
[07:28] <EvilPhoenix> so i probly wont' need compression
[07:28] <nutrapi> probably not
[07:28] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: i changed it to bootable. but it caused some errors
[07:28] <nutrapi> Which VPS company did you go with?
[07:28] <rigved> dnivra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547406/ <----- this is my 05_debian_theme. check if they are the same.
[07:30] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  none of the big ones, i got a VPS through another freenode user who is part of a group that has a hardware node in a datacenter somewhere, so its not like linode or smth :P
[07:30] <nutrapi> Oh nice.
[07:30] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  indeed.  /query please?
[07:30] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: and please not that you can only label one partition as bootable, if you changed to another, the old grub will not work
[07:30] <pksadiq> note*
[07:31] <rigved> dnivra: if they are the same, then run sudo update-grub. that should ensure that the changes have been reflected after you made those modifications earlier.
[07:31] <dnivra> rigved, few differences. still going through the diff.
[07:31] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: Right now softlayer has deds for $200/month with 12gb of ram and 2x250gbHD with xenserver as a 'free OS'
[07:31] <rigved> dnivra: ok.
[07:32] <chid> yagoo, I've isolated the reason
[07:32] <chid> my kernel log is like 1.4gb
[07:32] <EvilPhoenix> nutrapi:  ah nice, i have a VPS not a dedi, since $200 /month is outside my budget by about $140 :P
[07:32] <dnivra> rigved, yours uses bash and mine sh.
[07:32] <chid> wait, 360mb :) 1.4mil lines, the driver I'm using for wireless logs all packets I think
[07:33] <EvilPhoenix> anyways thanks for the help, rigved and nutrapi.  i'm off to sleep
[07:33] <nutrapi> EvilPhoenix: later
[07:33] <pksadiq> EvilPhoenix: it's here noon 12
[07:33] <Ryu_Kurisu> Good night EvilPhoenix
[07:33] <rigved> chid: change the logrotate configuration so that your logs are compressed more frequently (if that's what you wanted).
[07:33] <EvilPhoenix> pksadiq:  i'm UTC-5.  Time = 02:33:40
[07:33] <Ryu_Kurisu> Noon? Midnight you mean?
[07:33] <dnivra> rigved, the output of 'diff 05_debian_theme rigved' http://paste.ubuntu.com/547408/.
[07:33] <EvilPhoenix> anyways night
[07:34] <chid> no, rigved they just expanded from like 300kb to 300mb because I was trying to transfer files via ftp
[07:34] <cr215> hi.   it would be awesome if someone could tell me ho to make sound come out thru the hdmi...  the picture was a sinch for my tv but sound is a prob
[07:34] <chid> I can't figure how to disable those packets from being logged
[07:34] <rigved> dnivra: backup your 05_debian_theme and use mine instead. sudo update-grub and then restart. hope that helps
[07:34] <dnivra> rigved, righto. let's hope so.
[07:34] <cr215> hi. it would be awesome if someone could tell me ho to make sound come out thru the hdmi... the picture was a sinch for my tv but sound is a prob
[07:34] <pksadiq> EvilPhoenix: I'm too about to have food,..... <[07:35] <Goddard> is there any Firefox exstension or theme that makes the theme intergrate like chromes look with the close minimize and maximize buttons?
[07:35] <rigved> dnivra: all the best!
[07:35] <dnivra> rigved, do you have any backgrounds etc setup?
[07:35] <nutrapi> Could anyone help me understand why when installing and using the linux-image-server kernel, that uname still reports 'generic-pae' ? I understand this is normal, but why?
[07:36] <sacarlson> I changed my gnome theme to Azenis and I must say it looks very nice but now I open one of my openoffice doc files and I can't view it.  if I login to another account with the original theme I can read it.  how can I get it to read in azenis theme mode?
[07:36] <rigved> dnivra: i use the default one. ambiance!
[07:36] <dnivra> rigved, um and why did you ask me to use yours anyway :)?
[07:36] <xangua> Goddard: efirefox is the best https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/252591/ try the beta version ;)
[07:36] <rigved> dnivra: you said that there were some changes, right?
[07:36] <yagoo> chid, I'm sure your kernel log is 1.4gb .. very funny indeed
[07:36] <dnivra> rigved, well i said it wasn't detecting any of the files in /etc/grub.d :)
[07:37] <rigved> dnivra: oh. i did not read that part. sorry. i don't know how to solve that.
[07:37] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: this is the output of fdisk-l.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/547409/   I want to install boot loader to sda8.
[07:37] <dnivra> rigved, okay :). thanks for your help!
[07:39] <rigved> dnivra: sorry i couldn't help anymore. all the best! someone else might know. come online again later, like after 7-8 hours and maybe the other people who come online then might be able to help.
[07:39] <dnivra> i updated my grub to generate a new config file and it doesn't detect my background. here is the my 05_debian_theme file. why isn't the image being detected and added to grub.cfg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/547405/. i also find that the default resolution is not detected from /etc/default/grub. i set it to 1600x900 but no mention of a resolution at all in grub.cfg.
[07:39] <arunkumar413> rigved: this is the output of fdisk-l. http://paste.ubuntu.com/547409/ I want to install boot loader to sda8.
[07:39] <dnivra> rigved, yeah that's my next hope. sadly it was working fine till i updated it today :(.
[07:40] <Ryu_Kurisu> dnivra: What's your problem?
[07:40] <dnivra> Ryu_Kurisu, i updated my grub to generate a new config file and it doesn't detect my background. here is the my 05_debian_theme file. why isn't the image being detected and added to grub.cfg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/547405/. i also find that the default resolution is not detected from /etc/default/grub. i set it to 1600x900 but no mention of a resolution at all in grub.cfg.
[07:40] <Ryu_Kurisu> Have you got an Sony? xD
[07:41] <dnivra> Ryu_Kurisu, did you ask me? if so, yeah.
[07:41] <master> hello, everybody
[07:42] <twiztidkid830> hi
[07:42] <master> outside is cold
[07:42] <Ryu_Kurisu> Yeah you dnivra :P (I've got one too...I noticed because of resolution)
[07:42] <twiztidkid830> hiii
[07:42] <dnivra> Ryu_Kurisu, oh okay i see :). VGN-FW here.
[07:42] <Goddard> xangua: cool will do
[07:42] <Ryu_Kurisu> 21e?
[07:42] <master> merry xmas
[07:43] <twiztidkid830> imquint
[07:43] <Ryu_Kurisu> dnivra: 31e? :P
[07:43] <dnivra> Ryu_Kurisu, 260J
[07:44] <Ryu_Kurisu> Almost exactly the same...anyways...back to your problem dnivra :)
[07:44] <dnivra> Ryu_Kurisu, i'm no laptop expert. okay then-any leads on it?
[07:44] <rigved> arunkumar413: firstly you have way too many partitions. four one hard disk is normal. secondly, have you tried the link which i gave you? it has detailed instructions on how to do it. if you are unable to follow those, then please wait. i'll be back in sometime, then i'll help. :)
[07:44] <Ryu_Kurisu> dnivra: Still reading your cinfig...
[07:45] <sacarlson> arunkumar413 what do you plan to do change your bios to boot start from that partition?
[07:45] <dnivra> Ryu_Kurisu, okay :)
[07:45] <rigved> arunkumar413: *four on one hard disk
[07:45] <edwinT> O now
[07:45] <arunkumar413> rigved: i'll wait for you.
[07:45] <Myrtti> master: did you have a ubuntu related question?
[07:45] <rigved> arunkumar413: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[07:46] <rigved> arunkumar413: also, you might want to to what sacarlson tells you to. :)
[07:46] <Goddard> xangua: i tried it out but i am trying to get that top window to be intergrated into the browser
[07:46] <arunkumar413> sacarlson: i'm trying to install grub to a separate partition so that i can manage booting of multitple OSs easily
[07:46] <wzjxfw> fuck!
[07:46] <dnivra> !language | wzjxfw
[07:47] <Goddard> is there any Firefox exstension or theme that makes the theme intergrate like chromes look with the close minimize and maximize buttons?
[07:47] <master> is there anybody do android develop?
[07:47] <Goddard> I like to save screen space
[07:47] <xangua> master try an android channel
[07:48] <bazhang> master, try /msg alis list *android*  its offtopic here
[07:48] <xangua> Goddard: use chromium then, or just hit F11
[07:48] <master> #android
[07:49] <paq7512> what program can be used to rip dvd's - like a dvd decrypter?
[07:50] <bazhang> !handbrake > paq7512
[07:51] <sacarlson> arunkumar413: rigved: method looks good at http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide   or if this looks more clear to you http://paste.ubuntu.com/547404/
[07:51] <slh> Hello, where is the folder that i can edit a color scheme in a theme ?
[07:51] <pr0t0c0n> i got a question
[07:51] <paq7512> ty
[07:52] <Goddard> xangua: haha i think i found a solution
[07:52] <pr0t0c0n> im trying to install back track 3 onto a thumb drive  using unetbootin , however when i select the version of back track that i want , it doesnt dl the ISO to the thumb drive it just makes the thumb drive bootable but there isnt an ISO
[07:52] <Fezzler> I deleted all pulse audio and jackd-related synaptic installs attempting to fix sound.  Now when I boot, I get login screen from all users but none of the password start gnome
[07:52] <Goddard> xangua: check this out http://askritesh.blogspot.com/2009/03/make-mozilla-firefox-look-like-google.html
[07:53] <bazhang> pr0t0c0n, ubuntu involved there somehow?
[07:53] <pr0t0c0n> i dl loaded the ISO seaperately and copied it to the thumb drive and ran unetbootin but it still doesnt recognize that there is an iso on the drive
[07:53] <Fezzler> Anway go back and tell Ubuntu to undo the damage?
[07:53] <Fezzler> I must have deleted something very important
[07:53] <Jordan_U> arunkumar413: Why do you think that installing grub to a partition will make boting multiple OSs easier?
[07:53] <pr0t0c0n> no  , but i didnt feel like registering my nick with those guys in #linux
[07:53] <cgcardona> i just tried to sudo adduser with a user who wasn't part of the sudoers group and got his message "thisguy is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported" - where will that be reported to?
[07:53] <bazhang> Fezzler, a restore point?
[07:54] <bazhang> pr0t0c0n, #backtrack-linux not here
[07:54] <Fezzler> bazhang: something like that
[07:54] <pr0t0c0n> k
[07:54] <arunkumar413> Jordan_U: next time if i install another OS, i'll just update that boot loader to include this OS also
[07:54] <bazhang> Fezzler, try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <Fezzler> bazhang: It boots to my log-in screen (5 users) with no background image
[07:55] <Fezzler> bazhang: How?
[07:55] <bazhang> Fezzler, remove then reinstall it
[07:55] <Fezzler> bazhang: Distructive of other stuff?
[07:55] <sacarlson> cgcardona: it will probly apear in /var/log/auth.log file
[07:55] <bazhang> Fezzler, NO
[07:55] <Jordan_U> arunkumar413: What bootloader to you plan to have in the mbr?
[07:56] <Fezzler> bazhang: You know the command lines?  (using irssi at the moment in comand line mode)
[07:56] <arunkumar413> Jordan_U: no bootloader mbr. i would like to have grub as a boot loader in a separate boot partiton
[07:56] <cgcardona> sacarlson: there it was - thanks :0
[07:56] <cgcardona> :)
[07:56] <justyellowboy> Can someone help me with the Turtle Beach Z2's microphone being recognized as a device?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> arunkumar413: If you have no bootloader in the mbr then the drive will not boot.
[07:56] <Fezzler> bazhang: Thanks
[07:57] <arunkumar413> arunkumar413: i will have default boot loader in mbr
[07:57] <Fezzler> bazhang: You know the command lines?  (using irssi at the moment in comand line mode)
[07:57] <Jordan_U> arunkumar413: What is your "default" bootloader?
[07:58] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: he could change his bios to point to that partition at boot then it would work but I'm not sure what advantage that would have
[07:58] <arunkumar413> Jordan_U: i dont know. it must be the one which comes with the motherboard
[07:59] <shcherbak> Fezzler: irssi is command line client (or someone sneeky made gui)
[07:59] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: THe BIOS loads code from the mbr, what happens from that point on depends on what code is contained in the MBR. BIOSs don't know anything about partitions.
[07:59] <dnivra> i updated my grub to generate a new config file and it doesn't detect my background. here is the my 05_debian_theme file. why isn't the image being detected and added to grub.cfg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/547405/. i also find that the default resolution is not detected from /etc/default/grub. i set it to 1600x900 but no mention of a resolution at all in grub.cfg. I guess none of configuration files are being detected?
[08:00] <Fezzler> how do I restore a deleted desktop
[08:00] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: you might be correct there I think all you can do is point at sda or sdb  not sure if bios can point at sdb4 as the mbr
[08:00] <Goddard> xangua: need something like this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8790/
[08:00] <Goddard> anyone know of an updated firefox add-on like this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8790/
[08:00] <Jordan_U> dnivra: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub?
[08:01] <aidjvihjiehuieh> hello
[08:02] <TheEmpath> howdy
[08:02] <dnivra> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/547414/
[08:02] <TheEmpath> i'd like to add color to my bash
[08:02] <TheEmpath> but im confused and noob-like :(
[08:02] <dnivra> TheEmpath, gnome-terminal? Edit -> Profile Preferences -> Colors
[08:03] <TheEmpath> dnivra: all i have is shell access
[08:03] <dust1314> man ignore
[08:03] <TheEmpath> changing shell colors
[08:03] <TheEmpath> i see force_color_prompt=yes
[08:03] <TheEmpath> in .bashrc
[08:03] <TheEmpath> ?
[08:03] <FloodBot2> TheEmpath: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:03] <shcherbak> Fezzler: ok, you there?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> dnivra: And your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[08:03]  * TheEmpath eryday im floodsulin'
[08:04] <dnivra> TheEmpath, not so sure about that.
[08:04] <dnivra> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/547417/
[08:04] <Fezzler> So, Lucid boots to login screen, with no graphical image, and just recycles after I enter my passowrd
[08:05] <Fezzler> My ubuntu-desktop is missing, corrupted?
[08:05] <Fezzler> Did I hose my video driver?
[08:05] <Fezzler> I was trying to fix my sound and deleted all pulse and jackd files
[08:06] <Fezzler> something important went with them
[08:06] <dnivra> Jordan_U, i also get the following error when i run 'sudo update-grub': cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory.
[08:07] <TheEmpath> merry christmas from the west coast btw
[08:08] <shcherbak> Fezzler: first, try xinit -- :1 vt8
[08:08] <Fezzler> TheEmpath: Merry Christmas dude
[08:08] <Fezzler> shcherbak: That is not destructive in anyway, right?
[08:09] <shcherbak> Fezzler: no
[08:09] <Fezzler> schmidtm: Can I try it in another instance of Ubuntu - tty3?
[08:09] <shcherbak> Fezzler: this command brings up xserver, so if this fails we can see type of error
[08:10] <shcherbak> Fezzler: any tty
[08:10] <dust1314> part
[08:10] <Fezzler> shcherbak: thanks
[08:11] <Jordan_U> dnivra: Does the error go away if you run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" first? (replace sda with another drive if you want grub on a different drive, but do *not* select a partition like sda1).
[08:11] <share> hi
[08:11] <dnivra> Jordan_U, let me try doing that.
[08:11] <share> I have a Core 2 Duo CPU and 2GB RAM and I want to use 64bit version
[08:12] <share> should I add more RAM
[08:12] <sutabi> My computer's bootloader keeps timing out and I am reading I need to add rootdelay=90 to the grub/menu.lst However 10.10 uses Grub2 and there isn't a menu.lst anymore. Anyone know where  i would make that change?
[08:12] <dnivra> Jordan_U, awesome! totally! you rule! what was wrong?
[08:13] <Jordan_U> dnivra: It's something that is still probably wrong, the grub-pc package is not configured to install grub anywhere on upgrades (at least that's my guess). If that's true you're lucky to find out this way as it would eventually leave you with an unbootable system.
[08:14] <Jordan_U> dnivra: Can you pastebin the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" and "debconf-show grub-pc"?
[08:15] <dnivra> Jordan_U, debconf-show grub-pc output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547418/
[08:16] <dnivra> Jordan_U, "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id" output here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/547419/
[08:17] <Jordan_U> dnivra: That is the problem, you never actually completed the upgrade from grub legacy to grub2. To do that run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy".
[08:17] <dnivra> Jordan_U, so if any time the /etc/grub.d entries go undetected, it'll be fixed by re-installing grub?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> dnivra: No.
[08:18] <dnivra> Jordan_U, um i never had grub legacy. this machine is a clean install of 10.04 to 10.10 and i re-installed grub again today using 9.10 CD. grub-legacy not involved anywhere!
[08:18] <dnivra> Jordan_U, should I run that command?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> dnivra: Your debconf-show output says otherwise. Are you sure you didn't accidentily install the "grub" package (which contains grub-legacy) at any point?
[08:19] <suraj> hello everybody
[08:19] <dnivra> Jordan_U, pretty sure. i followed the grub2 documentation of ubuntu to re-install.
[08:20] <suraj> i have problem with installation of nvidia drivers
[08:20] <suraj> can anybody help me
[08:20] <dnivra> Jordan_U, what suggested that i might have grub-legacy? should i run 'sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy' ?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> dnivra: Well, whatever the reason, for your current configuration you do need to run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy".
[08:21] <dnivra> suraj, well i sure can't but if you say what exactly is your problem, someone should be able to.
[08:21] <hasibullah> hello all
[08:21] <dnivra> Jordan_U, okay then. thanks a lot! i'll run the command.
[08:21] <chris062689_> I have a question about multimonitor support, I have a 4500mhd laptop with an HDMI and a VGA port.  I want to be able to close my laptop, hook up the HDMI to one monitor, and the VGA to my second monitor and be able to use both of them side-by-side in GNOME / KDE.  How's support for this going under Linux? :)
[08:21] <suraj> when is install the recommended drivers by ubuntu...my ubuntu desktop crashes and it start in commands mode
[08:21] <hasibullah> how to configure a server to allow remote desktops prompting logging screens
 when i install the recommended drivers by ubuntu...my ubuntu desktop crashes and it start in commands mode
[08:22] <Jordan_U> dnivra: The flag "grub-pc/chainload_from_menu.lst: true". That means that the grub-pc packaging is assuming that grub2 is being loaded from grub legacy's menu.lst, which means that the grub-pc packaging will never run grub-install.
[08:23] <hasibullah> how to configure a server to allow remote desktops prompting logging screens
[08:23] <Fezzler> shcherbak: that didn't do anything
[08:24] <shcherbak> Fezzler: what was quit message?
[08:24] <dnivra> Jordan_U, oh okay i see-it assumes grub-legacy is the default boot loader and grub2 is chainloaded from it. right?
[08:24] <Fezzler> shcherbak: gave me a litte root command line and then started login screen again and again password just cycled to login screen again
[08:24] <Jordan_U> dnivra: Correct.
[08:24] <Fezzler> shcherbak: didn't notice one
[08:24] <shcherbak> Fezzler: wait.
[08:25] <Fezzler> shcherbak: try again and report back?
[08:25] <shcherbak> Fezzler: small window in left top corner?
[08:25] <Fezzler> shcherbak: yes sir
[08:25] <Fezzler> shcherbak: said boot in the prompt
[08:26] <hasibullah> how to configure a ubuntu remote desktops to open logging screen
[08:26] <shcherbak> Fezzler: ok, how did you get to gdm (ubuntu splash screen with password)
[08:27] <Fezzler> shcherbak: I just reboot and it comes up and shows all 5 users
[08:27] <shcherbak> Fezzler: boot prompt, thats not good
[08:27] <dnivra> Jordan_U, makes more sense though no idea why it was caused. one more question-i have another partition with Ubuntu in it which will be soon upgraded to natty and i'm expecting grub to be installed in that. suppose i want grub to installed to be installed in maverick's partition, is it enough if i run 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' from maverick?
[08:27] <Fezzler> shcherbak: I am the admin.  BUT, there is no Ubuntu graphical background
[08:27] <Jordan_U> arvind_khadri: When you talk about installing grub there are two main places that it's installed to. There is the boot sector, which is either the first sector of a drive or the first sector of a partition, and there is the filesystem containing the files loaded by grub including its configuration file. I think that what you are trying to do is keep grub's files (not its boot sector) on a partition separate from all your OSs. Even if you do that, you still
[08:28] <hasibullah> how to configure a ubuntu remote desktops to open logging screen
[08:28] <shcherbak> Fezzler: open that window again, leave it, and swich back to tty
[08:28] <arvind_khadri> Jordan_U, not me :)
[08:29] <Jordan_U> dnivra: Temporarily, yes, but then natty will still re-run grub-install whenever there is a grub-pc upgrade.
[08:29] <Myrtti> Fezzler: wait, you've enabled root account?
[08:29] <manbeast> how can I log a user out of the GUI as root?
[08:29] <Arpad2> hello
[08:29] <dnivra> Jordan_U, okay then; will keep running every time there is an upgrade. thanks a lot!
[08:29] <Jordan_U> arvind_khadri: Sorry, it looks like the person that was meant for left :(
[08:31] <birdinatux> after i run video in a browser for about a minute or two it makes the whole system choppy and slow. any ideas on fix? Ubuntu 10.10
[08:31] <Arpad2> I removed nvidia driver , switched back to nouveau.But now I can only run with live cd
[08:32] <Jordan_U> dnivra: There are other options that wouldn't require you to run grub-install every time there grub-pc is upgraded in natty but none that really fits at the moment. It's on my todo list to try to change that.
[08:32] <manbeast> birdinatux: what process do you see when you run top?
[08:33] <manbeast> !love
[08:34] <birdinatux> manbeast,  chrom is first then Xorg then chrome two more times.
[08:34] <Fezzler> shcherbak: Just checked
[08:34] <manbeast> birdinatux: when you play a video, check the processes
[08:35] <Fezzler> schmidtm: it gave me my normal prompt.  And when I hit down arrow rebuilt the login screen, complete with user icons
[08:35] <birdinatux> manbeast,  that is with a vid playing
[08:36] <suraj> any1 here can help me with installation of nvidia drivers????
[08:36] <Fezzler> shcherbak: so we know my login is good
[08:36] <shcherbak> Fezzler: hm
[08:36] <manbeast> birdinatux: when the problem happens, look at the processes and see if the vid player plugin is there, you can probably just kill it if it hangs
[08:36] <Jordan_U> suraj: Have you tried System > Administration > Additional Drivers?
[08:36] <Fezzler> shcherbak: and we know the PC boots; and some service provides the login page and graphics
[08:37] <Fezzler> shcherbak: but what controls the ubuntu image behind the login page and what isn't taking my password and just recycling me to the user login process?
[08:37] <shcherbak> Fezzler: well, soon you going to reinstall half of system, but not yet, first...
[08:38] <shcherbak> Fezzler: gdm <-- display manager
[08:38] <Fezzler> shcherbak: a way to check if it is working or missing?
[08:39] <manbeast> hi! i'm looking for help on how to log users out through the cli
[08:39] <Fezzler> shcherbak: BTW - this irssi is fast!
[08:40] <shcherbak> Fezzler: fisrt in tty navigate around to see do you have access to files, second in white small window run gedit (any small gui application), then swich to tty where you run xinit (look for errors), crtl-c and startx
[08:41] <Fezzler> shcherbak: I do have access to files
[08:41] <Fezzler> shcherbak: I know that
[08:41] <shcherbak> Fezzler: irssi is best! (remove yours xchats!)
[08:42] <shcherbak> Fezzler: ok, gedit, check errors (), and kill xinit and startx
[08:46] <birdinatux> whats a good program to monitor system temperatures?
[08:46] <psycho_oreos> GUI or CLI?
[08:46] <birdinatux> prefer GUI but will take CLI
[08:47] <manbeast> sensord ?
[08:47] <xiong> Ho-ho-ho!
[08:47] <systemg33k> Yes i'd like one too GUI version
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> gkrellm which depends on lmsensors
[08:48] <systemg33k> System temps..with gpu temps if possible
[08:48] <birdinatux> i have gkrellm installed but didn't show temp, am installing sensord as we speak
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> yeah those depends on the chipsets on yer mobo, not all of them supported
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> nah you need to setup and configure lmsensors as well for gkrellm to show them
[08:48] <manbeast> sensord has various guis
[08:50] <arunkumar413> presntly  I'm in 10.10 live CD mode. I just installed grub bootloader to a dedicated partition whose mount point is /media/boot and device is /dev/sda10. Plz tell me how to update the grub to  include other OSs which i have installed earlier.
[08:51] <ecinx> I'm trying to install flash in my computer but I'm having a problem
[08:51] <manbeast> does anyone know how to log users out through the cli
[08:51] <ecinx> I keep getting permission denied when trying to move a file to the plugin folder
[08:52] <manbeast> ecinx what are the permissions on the plugin folder?
[08:52] <ecinx> manbeast:  I don't kow anything about linux :(
[08:53] <ecinx> it says owner root access root
[08:53] <manbeast> ecinx are you moving the file with your mouse?
[08:53] <ecinx> yes
[08:53] <systemg33k> where can i find a gui for sensord
[08:54] <manbeast> ecinx you may need to use the terminal to move to a folder owned by root
[08:55] <manbeast> systemg33k is sensors-applet any good ?
[08:55] <psycho_oreos> birdinatux, http://imagebin.org/129526 <--- gkrellm with sensors
[08:55] <ecinx> pardon my ignorance but how do yo move a file from a folder to another?
[08:55] <ecinx> i have the terminal open
[08:56] <psycho_oreos> ecinx, mv
[08:56] <manbeast> systemg33k is do you know the path where you want to move the file to etc?
[08:56] <psycho_oreos> ecinx: mv /directory/file /another/directory
[08:56] <ecinx> ok ty
[08:57] <systemg33k> manbeast i'm not moving a file. sensors-applet so far no luck on gui
[08:57] <aLeSD> hi all
[08:57] <aLeSD> someone know how to rotate text in document viewer ?
[08:57] <manbeast> systemg33k xsensors?
[08:58] <systemg33k> manbeast http://computertemp.berlios.de/
[08:58] <ecinx> I think it worked
[08:58] <manbeast> systemg33k sry i only have lynx
[08:58] <zhang_> how can i know what procedures i have run now?
[08:59] <systemg33k> manbeast, not sure what lynx is
[08:59] <manbeast> zhang procedures?
[08:59] <xiong> aLeSD, I don't; but I'm willing to try to help. Not quite sure what you want. Do you want to rotate the entire display of a document?
[08:59] <manbeast> systemg33k just a text browser
[08:59] <zhang_> i write some codes with pygame, and use the fullscreen mod
[08:59] <psycho_oreos> ecinx, check in the destination directory to see if the file is there
[08:59] <systemg33k> manbeast, oh
[08:59] <zhang_> but i can't return
[08:59] <aLeSD> xiong: yes ...  I pressed keys and the document inside document viewer app is 90 degree rotated
[09:00] <xiong> aLeSD, Oh. Then you somehow rotated it and just want to get it back to what it was. I'll try this myself but while I fool around, you might try quitting Document Viewer and re-opening the file.
[09:01] <cn_cha> THANKS
[09:01] <aLeSD> xiong, already tried ... the doc stays rotated
[09:01] <xiong> aLeSD, Let me fool around a bit. I'm good at fooling around.
[09:01] <systemg33k> no computer temperature applet no good either
[09:02] <paissad> guys, i have no more /bin/bash .. which package does contain "bash" so that i reinstall it
[09:02] <manbeast> systemg33k yeah it looks good
[09:03] <ecinx> I have another problem
[09:03] <manbeast> systemg33k have you got it running?
[09:03] <ecinx> I keep getting an error when I'm trying to install new software
[09:03] <systemg33k> manbeast, no i am a newb not sure how to start it
[09:03] <ssfdre38> how can i edit the port for the terminal for ssh
[09:04] <nidal> hello...Does anyone know the default command for file encryption in ubuntu
[09:04] <ecinx> When i open ubuntu software center, i get an error that says items cannot be installed or remvoed until the package catalog is reparied. do you want to repair nit now? once updddate manager has finished the repairs, you can close it and return to the store.
[09:04] <psycho_oreos> ecinx, what sort of errors? if its more than 2 lines please do not paste here, paste into pastebin and paste the link to the pastebin here
[09:04] <systemg33k> manbeast, any luck running it let me know
[09:04] <ox3a> hel0
[09:04] <manbeast> nida1 mcrypt works well
[09:04] <ecinx> I hit repairs, and nothing seems to happen
[09:05] <nidal> manbeast... thanks
[09:05] <cgcardona_> so I added DIR_MODE=0750 to /etc/adduser.conf and then sudo addusered two new users - both of the users can see each other in the /home/ directory though neither can enter the other's directory. How can I get it to where they can't even see each other?
[09:05] <psycho_oreos> ecinx, recall what you did last to make it prompt like that
[09:05] <ox3a> Is there any mssql gui client tools?
[09:05] <xiong> aLeSD, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=434224
[09:05] <zhang_> ps -ef | grep something
[09:05] <ecinx> Honestly i dont remmber, i haven touched my computer in two days.. and I spent hours trying to see what's going on
[09:06] <ecinx> If i type in a software, for ex adobe flash, i hit install and nothing happens
[09:06] <xiong> aLeSD, "The "rotate" is currently on "edit" menu item. It is natural to expect this in the "view" menu." I agree.
[09:06] <aLeSD> xiong, lol ... thanks
[09:06] <aLeSD> I agree
[09:06] <xiong> aLeSD, Problem solved?
[09:07] <aLeSD> yes
[09:07] <aLeSD> thanks
[09:07] <ox3a> Is there any mssql gui client tools?
[09:07] <nidal> anyone know a good list of all linux commands (preferably sorted by function)
[09:07] <xiong> aLeSD, No problem. Glad I could help.
[09:07] <ecinx> and I close ubuntu software manager, and open synaptic package manager, and it tellsme " You have 4 broken packages on your system! use broken  filter to locate them.
[09:08] <xiong> nidal, Um, dunno if that's realistic. I can create a new "Linux command" at any time. Would you like to try a tutorial; or perhaps a comprehensive list of POSIX commands?
[09:09] <xiong> nidal, There's such things as Linux cheat sheets. They can be very handy.
[09:09] <nidal> xiong: a list of POSIX commands would be nice...
[09:09] <ecinx> if i go to edit and hit fix broken packages, nothing really happens, but the status bar on the bottom says successfully firxed dependency problems. but nothing really happend.
[09:09] <nidal> cheat sheets...will google it
[09:10] <nidal> i was basically looking for commands that appear by default in most distros
[09:10] <nidal> like say vi, ssh, etc.
[09:10] <bazhang> !abs > nidal
[09:10] <xiong> nidal, http://www.one-serve.com/tools/unix_commands.php -- POSIX is a sort of core set of *nix commands; "the basics". (Not "core" in another sense.)
[09:11] <Fezzler> shcherbak: back
[09:11] <xiong> !abs > xiong
[09:11] <Fezzler> shcherbak: booted into safe mode - three errors discovered in startup
[09:12] <Fezzler> shcherbak: #1: [drm] failed to open device
[09:12] <ox3a> lol no answer
[09:12] <ox3a> Is there any mssql gui client tools?
[09:12] <Fezzler> shcherbak: #2: Open /dev/fb0 No such file or device
[09:12] <xiong> bazhang, That's interesting to me but may be a bit advanced over a simple list of commands.
[09:12] <nidal> xiong: thanks for link....
[09:13] <Fezzler> shcherbak: #3 Failed to initialize GLX extension (compatible Nvidia X driver not found)
[09:13] <ecinx> http://pastebin.com/KBqPSLYu
[09:13] <Goddard> how do i uninstall google earth if i installed it from the google earth website
[09:13] <xiong> nidal, That scripting guide *is* all important stuff. You don't need to be a "programmer" to write a shell script.
[09:14] <rigved> arunkumar413: hi. you are mis-informed about how bootloaders work!
[09:14] <psycho_oreos> echo "hello world"
[09:14] <Fezzler> shcherbak: any ideas why those 3 errors would cause login screen to cycle?
[09:15] <xiong> The bash version of Life (http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/contributed-scripts.html#LIFESLOW) is probably not....
[09:15] <manbeast> does anyone know how to log users out through the cli?
[09:15] <xiong> psycho_oreos, hello world to you, too. Ho-ho-ho.
[09:16] <Fezzler> shcherbak: with me or have I worn out my welcome?
[09:16] <johnbiker> hello i have probelm with pidjin messanger..if i type m the msn replace m with am..can anyone help me?
[09:16] <psycho_oreos> xiong, hehe merry christmas
[09:17] <Goddard> how do i uninstall google earth if i installed it from the google earth website
[09:17] <ecinx> how do i install anything, if i can't install anything :(
[09:17] <nidal> linux/unix has many commands in it....but its hard to find a command to do something you want...for example the other day i wanted to securely erase a file...after a bit of looking around by found that the command for it was "shred"
[09:17] <nidal> it would be nice if there was a single place from which to look for a command
[09:18] <rigved> Goddard: run the .deb package which you had downloaded again. it will ask you whether you want to remove.
[09:18] <Goddard> rigved: was just about to do that gotta redownload was hoping for a command to do it though
[09:18] <ecinx> synaptic tells me have 4 broken packages  and i get this error when i hit apply
[09:18] <Goddard> tried apt-get remove but that returned nothing
[09:18] <ecinx> http://pastebin.com/KBqPSLYu
[09:18] <johnbiker> hello i have probelm with pidjin messanger..if i type m the msn replace m with am..can anyone help me?
[09:19] <Fezzler> I think I need to reinstall my nvidia driver.  Login in low graphics mode and doesn't accept password, just keeps cycling  stuck in command mode right now
[09:19] <rigved> Goddard: do you still have the .deb package which you had used to install earlier?
[09:19] <Fezzler> can someone find me the install command line for nvidia GeoForce FX 5500 card?
[09:19] <rigved> Goddard: you can use that to uninstall
[09:19] <xiong> nidal, Respectfully, may I suggest a reorientation of thinking? You say "commands in Linux" but strictly speaking, Linux is only the kernel; some shells have built-in commands. Linux is not monolithic in the broader sense; it's an ecology of different parts.
[09:20] <rigved> Goddard: if you installed via package manager (any), then you can use that again to uninstall
[09:20] <shcherbak> Fezzler: have a look --> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=138828 (need nap now)
[09:20] <Goddard> rigved: i do have it i click on it and it opens ubuntu software center and the only option i have is to reinstall
[09:20] <Pentium3> Fezzler: just go into System>Administration and hit the extra or proprietary drivers program
[09:20] <Fezzler> shcherbak: Can't look.  Have no browser in command line mode
[09:21] <rigved> Goddard: ok. that's weird. try this in the Terminal - sudo apt-get remove <package_name>
[09:21] <ktwo> note: the mangling of va_list has changed in gcc 4.4 , is this anythig  i should worry about?
[09:21] <ktwo> when compiling
[09:21] <Fezzler> Pentium3: GLX will not load without nvida driver
[09:21] <Goddard> rigved: ya i gave that a shot
[09:21] <nidal> xiong : ok i am guessing you mean that "shred" is not a linux command per se ....ok is there a list of commands/programs in ubuntu distro
[09:21] <xiong> nidal, You may find it easier to "get" this if you see the openness. There is no one place to go, no one canonical list, no Big Plan. You might even want to back off, mentally, from the word "command" and think in terms of individual programs, each of which does something different.
[09:22] <casadrya> h
[09:22] <rigved> Goddard: or maybe the .deb only adds the google earth ppa to your sources.list. open up Software Center and try to remove using that
[09:22] <cryptk> so here is a question... how can one tell the total amount of time it takes a system to boot?
[09:22] <casadrya> hello, i'm trying to share a folder with another computer
[09:22] <Goddard> rigved: ahh i got it ..was listed as google-earth-stable
[09:22] <xiong> nidal, The base distro itself is barely useful -- only what can fit on a standard CD. Immediately on install, you want to start adding stuff to make your machine more useful. You have great freedom in this.
[09:22] <Pentium3> Fezzler: ouch!, sorry but I cannot help you there, I just got my GeForce FX5500 drivers through the proprietary drivers program but if GUI won't even load...
[09:22] <cryptk> perhaps with bootchartd?
[09:22] <nidal> anyway thanks for your time ..have to go out now bye.....
[09:22] <casadrya> i left clicked on it, clicked on share options
[09:23] <rigved> Goddard: yes. so the .deb package only added the google-earth to your sources.list. you can safely remove it using Software.
[09:23] <Pentium3> cryptk: depends on how much stuff you have to load and the power of your PC.
[09:23] <casadrya> it said it had to install some things
[09:23] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Hey, which driver does it show or your FX5500
[09:23] <xiong> nidal, The general procedure for answering the question "How do I do X?" is to Google for "X", then follow links until you stumble on a program that looks good; then download and install it, read the README, and try it.
[09:23] <casadrya> it did, restarted, tried again but got this error
[09:23] <ecinx> bump my problems
[09:23] <casadrya> Failed to execute child process "testparm" (No such file or directory)
[09:23] <casadrya> any help?
[09:23] <olx69> seamlessrdp: are there some restrictions for OSses? My kvm/vistsa32 works, but the seamless isn't seamless in real
[09:24] <Pentium3> Fezzler: I cant really figure that out right now, I have the computer over at home (I am on vacation)
[09:24] <johnbiker> if i type "m" on pidgin messanger ,the pidgin replace the "m"  with am.can anyone help me ?
[09:24] <cryptk> I am wanting to clock the bootup of an Ubuntu VPS that I have... thing is, bootchartd works with your initram... I don't have an initram
[09:24] <ecinx> bump my problems again
[09:24] <Pentium3> Fezzler: so you don't get any sort of GUI?
[09:24] <rigved> olx69: are you sure that you have installed the latest guest additions?
[09:24] <xiong> s/The/A/
[09:24] <ecinx> I can't install anything.
[09:25] <Fezzler> Pentium3: System starts, I get login screen for me and family members complete with icons.
[09:25] <Pentium3> login then
[09:25] <Sturmovik> Hows it going?
[09:25] <Fezzler> Pentium3: But the Ubuntu splash graphic is gone and when I try to login in it just cycles to the same login screen
[09:26] <rigved> cryptk: initramfs is the initial RAM and File System that is used to boot the kernel befote the actual RAM and File System have been booted.
[09:26] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Groundhog day! :)
[09:26] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Booted into safe mode and found three reported errors
[09:26] <cryptk> rigved, I know what an initram is... my system does not have one
[09:26] <xiong> ecinx, I'm not sure what that means but let's work on it.
[09:26] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Before all this I was messing with pulse audio and jackd
[09:26] <bouma> hi, my uncles comp had to reboot, cause i'd left it in twm and he couldnt logout to gnome, so on next reboot it wont start Xorg, i've used another system, and -o bind /dev and mounted proc, and chrooted to the broken originalsys, how do i use dpkg to check all packages
[09:26] <Pentium3> Fezzler: run your recover mode and tell it to go into failsafe X and tell it to set default X configuation.
[09:27] <Goddard> does ubuntu have a tempoary file cleaner like Windows?
[09:27] <Sturmovik> Hello.
[09:27] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Couldn't get the to work so I had Synaptic remove any Pulse or Jackd related files
[09:27] <ecinx> xiong:  thank you
[09:27] <cryptk> rigved, bootchartd places itself in the initram so that it can start at the very beginning of the systems boot process, that won't work on a system that does not have an initram (such as mine)
[09:27] <Fezzler> Pentium3: I must have nuked something else
[09:27] <johnbiker> i have probem with pidgin
[09:27] <xiong> ecinx, What packages are broken? Are they all related to the same thing or is any one of them independent? Pick one.
[09:27] <cryptk> actually, not only do I not have an initram, I don't have a boot partition either, lol
[09:28] <Fezzler> Pentium3: BRB, I'll try that
[09:28] <Fezzler> ?Quit
[09:28] <ecinx> I really don't have an idea
[09:28] <rigved> cryptk: locate initramfs
[09:28] <ecinx> I know i can't install anything via kpackage manager
[09:28] <rigved> cryptk: does that not give you anything?
[09:28] <ecinx> synaptic, or ubuntu software manager
[09:28] <bouma> how do i use dpkg to repair damage done after rebooting an ext4
[09:28] <bouma> ????
[09:29] <cryptk> rigved, I know what I am talking about... this is a virtualized server running on a xen host... there is NO boot partition, there is NO initramfs
[09:29] <xiong> ecinx, Then this isn't specifically difficulty in fixing/upgrading a package. You say you can't install anything at all via k.
[09:29] <cryptk> all of that is provided by the host server
[09:29] <rigved> cryptk: oh. ok. virtual server. ok then i don't know. sorry. :)
[09:30] <bouma> ive been checking man, but no simple option to check all options
[09:31] <cryptk> see, that is my connundrum.. I would like a way to time/chart the bootup... normally I would use bootchartd, but with no initram, I don't think that iwll eb an option
[09:31] <kantor> Hello, I'm struggling for a few hours now, and I can not find out how to delete single emails in evolution. It is actually possible to do that ? or only emptying the trash is possible ?
[09:31] <xiong> kantor, I use evolution and I think you're correct.
[09:31] <Pentium3> if Fezzler comes on could you tell him that I'll brb?
[09:32] <Fezzler> Pentium3: didn't work
[09:32] <Pentium3> Fezzler: really?
[09:32] <xiong> kantor, "Delete" really means "move to Trash folder".
[09:33] <Pentium3> Fezzler: try reinstalling ubuntu
[09:33] <Fezzler> Pentium3: just came back to same menu
[09:33] <nutrapi> quit
[09:33] <Pentium3> Fezzler: I'll brb
[09:33] <Fezzler> Pentium3: don't want to lose data / setup
[09:33] <Pentium3> Fezzler: have to go do something.
[09:33] <rigved> kantor: i don't understand. select the e-mails that you want to delete (use Ctrl+ click). then click on the delete button on the top. right-click on the Trash folder. select Empty Trash > Expunge
[09:33] <mortal> <
[09:33] <Sturmovik> Hello.
[09:34] <Pentium3> Fezzler: anyway brb
[09:34] <kantor> rigved, yes, but If you have 123. . . mails in your trash and you want to permanently delete only three of them ?
[09:34] <Fezzler> all I need is command line to install correct driver for nvidia FX 5500
[09:34] <SSapphiree> guys, has anyone heard about troubles with multitouch on touchpad on toshiba satellite notebooks? I've got such a problem but I can't google anything like that... and it doesn't look like a hardware problem since in win7 multitouch works just fine by default
[09:34] <Fezzler> I can't google it because I'm stuck in command line mode
[09:34] <ecinx> xiong: sorry irc crashed
[09:35] <rigved> kantor: are all the 123 e-mails in the same folder? use shift select or Ctrl+A to select them all
[09:35] <xiong> kantor, Move all messages from Trash to a temp folder; "delete" the three; empty Trash.
[09:35] <ecinx> http://pastebin.com/KBqPSLYu
[09:35] <Tcalp> hey guys ... I'm doing up some AppleTV's as christmas gifts (now 4:30am here .. heh) ...
[09:36] <xiong> ecinx, Welcome back. Sorry; not sure what to tell you now. After you crashed out, I read the last line of your comment, where you have trouble with Synaptic as well. What about apt-get or dpkg?
[09:36] <rigved> !ot | Tcalp
[09:36] <Tcalp> (... installing XBMC / (ubuntu based installation ) ...
[09:36] <Fezzler> can someone google command line for installing nvidia GeoForce FX5500 in Lucid?
[09:36] <ubuntu> hello
[09:36] <ecinx> i dont know what apt-get nor dpkg are, xiong
[09:37] <kantor> xiong, rigved yes that is a solution. I started to use evolution from yesterday. I really like it, but there are some things which are not so nice . . .
[09:37] <ubuntu> I have a question
[09:37] <dirty-harry> Fezzler: isn't nouveau default in lucid...
[09:37] <xiong> ecinx, Synaptic is a GUI frontend, ultimately, to dpkg. The command line tool apt-get is another frontend.
[09:37] <Tcalp> but when I plugin a NTFS formatted usb hard drive the system seems to be having trouble reading the drive / going really slow (stuck trying to read ?? ~~ the activity led is going constant on the usb drive) ..
[09:37] <ubuntu> should i use 32 or 64 bit
[09:38] <cryptk> ubuntu, how much ram do you have?
[09:38] <rigved> kantor: evolution is good. i have never had any problems with it.
[09:38] <Fezzler> dirty-harry: not sure, I did see nouveau mentioning in config file reviewed in safemode
[09:38] <cryptk> and do you have a 64 bit processor?
[09:38] <ubuntu> cryptk: core 2 duo
[09:38] <xiong> kantor, It's probably frowned upon to put anything into the Trash that you *don't* want to destroy permanently. So, no offense, you may not be able to stir up much interest in selective emptying.
[09:38] <ecinx> xiong: okay, i get it, but i don't know how to use neither
[09:38] <Fezzler> dirty-harry: can you help?  I feel luck, punk :)
[09:39] <ubuntu> cryptk: is it 64
[09:39] <cryptk> yep
[09:39] <dirty-harry> :)
[09:39] <cryptk> ubuntu, how much ram does your system have in it?
[09:39] <ubuntu> cryptk: but i have few ram
[09:39] <xiong> ecinx, Not sure this will help at all, anyway. But you might try apt-get and see if that works. If so, then you can use apt-get to reinstall Synaptic.
[09:39] <gccster> guys is there a good bind9 frontend?
[09:39] <ubuntu> cryptk: 2gb
[09:39] <cryptk> you can use either 32 or 64... but in order to use more than 4GB of ram you would need 64
[09:39] <cryptk> so for you, just pick one, either should work
[09:40] <kantor> rigved, xiong: by the way there is/was a strange thing that I did not understood. The Date column in evolution displayed some strange times for some emails. And this happened yesterday when I fetched all my emails in evolution. There were a few mails for which the received time was let say 1/1/2008, and the date column displayed 2/3/2010 . . .
[09:40] <ubuntu> cryptk: oh nice
[09:40] <lukas> who works only in terminal on ubuntu?
[09:40] <dirty-harry> well, I jst replace nvidia with nouveau and look at the xorg.conf and switch off kernelmode for now
[09:40] <Fezzler> dirty-harry: just need command line instruction to install driver compatible for nvidia FX5500
[09:40] <cryptk> lukas, I am a full time linux systems administrator... the terminal is my playground
[09:40] <ecinx> I don't know how to use apt-get, but i also have problems with kubuntu software update and ubuntu's as well
[09:40] <ubuntu> cryptk: so what if I add more 2gb of ram?
[09:40] <lukas> lol
[09:40] <xiong> ecinx, I can't promise you that this will fix it, either. It's disturbing that both k's package manager and Synaptic are broken for you.
[09:40] <dirty-harry> Fezzler: well, I jst replace nvidia with nouveau and look at the xorg.conf and switch off kernelmode for now
[09:41] <kantor> xiong, I really want to get used to it, because over all I like it.
[09:41] <ubuntu> cryptk: so what matters it the CPU > 4gb ram 64bit is needed right
[09:41] <cryptk> ubuntu, if you were to upgrade the computer to more than 4GB of ram, you would need 64-bit to use all of it... 32GB will only be able to use about 3.8GB or so
[09:41] <Fezzler> dirty-harry: not sure what that means or what to do
[09:41] <cryptk> ubuntu, got it!
[09:41] <Fezzler> dirty-harry: stuck in command line mode
[09:41] <ubuntu> thanks :)
[09:41] <ecinx> synaptic is stuck trying to install JRE 6 i think
[09:41] <ecinx> the others i don't know
[09:41] <xiong> ecinx, You may have a deeper issue, which may be over my head.
[09:41] <ubuntu> cryptk: *32bit not gb :P
[09:42] <rigved> kantor: have you set your timezone correctly?
[09:42] <dirty-harry> Fezzler: yes, I see that and my family is try to pull me off to bit fam-meeting...
[09:42] <cryptk> ubuntu, yep... typo
[09:42] <ecinx> :\ thanks
[09:42] <dirty-harry> Fezzler: jst sec
[09:42] <cryptk> happens to the best of us
[09:42] <ubuntu> cryptk: so im fine with 2gb for now but i should add more right?
[09:42] <ecinx> sucks, that I'm a total noob
[09:43] <cryptk> ubuntu, that depends on what you use your system for...
[09:43] <xiong> ecinx, Not easy for me to see where you are. Try unchecking all packages -- so that you are not demanding Synaptic do anything at all. The "Apply" button should be grayed out, disabled.
[09:43] <johnbiker> how i can write greek?
[09:43] <Fezzler> is there a command line, low graphics browser akin to irssi?
[09:43] <cryptk> but if you upgrade to more than 4GB, you would need 64 bit (same applies to all operating systems)
[09:43] <cryptk> Fezzler, lynx
[09:43] <Pentium3> Fezzler: back
[09:43] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Yea
[09:43] <kantor> rigved, yes. only for my information, date means the sent time, and receive the time the email arrived to the yahoo pop server ?
[09:44] <exilix> Fezzler, elinks
[09:44] <xiong> ecinx, Then try checking just one box -- doesn't matter what but look for a very small package with few dependencies. Try a library, not an application. See if you can install that.
[09:44] <ecinx> i get an error while opengin synaptic
[09:44] <rs0832> ecinx, what error?
[09:44] <Pentium3> Fezzler: You can use the live cd to copy all of your important stuff to flash before reinstalling.
[09:44] <Fezzler> Pentium3: I "think" I nuked my nvidia driver when I uninstalled all the pulse audio and jackd-related files from Synatic
[09:44] <xiong> ecinx, Ah, that's interesting. What's the error?
[09:44] <ubuntu> cryptk: so in 64bit can i extract files faster than in 32bit?
[09:44] <ecinx> you have 4 broken packages on your system. use the "broken" filter to locate them
[09:45] <xiong> ecinx, That's not an error. Dismiss it.
[09:45] <Fezzler> Pentium3: why not just reinstall nvidia compatible driver?
[09:45] <ecinx> the apply button is not grayed out
[09:45] <ecinx> is*
[09:45] <cryptk> ubuntu, that would vary depending on lots of details
[09:45] <Pentium3> Fezzler: Might be a problem there, but I really don't know how to reinstall the drivers
[09:45] <ubuntu> cryptk: what i mean is the overall performance is better right
[09:45] <Pentium3> Fezzler: i.e. the package names
[09:45] <johnbiker> how to change region and language?
[09:45] <cryptk> 64 bit is not necessarily faster or slower than 32 bit
[09:45] <cryptk> it just enables you to do more things
[09:45] <xiong> ecinx, That's great. So, you see, you are not yet asking Synaptic to do anything. So, if you press the disabled button, it does nothing, and that's what you want. That's a step forward.
[09:45] <cryptk> basically
[09:46] <ubuntu> cryptk: for example?
[09:46] <dirty-harry> Fezzler: sorry, but I really need to go now..
[09:46] <xiong> ecinx, So, now pick at random some sort of lib.
[09:46] <Fezzler> dirty-harry: merry xmas!
[09:46] <cryptk> you can use more ram, and you can use processors with 64 bit instructions
[09:46] <Pentium3> Fezzler: if you can get the package names then you can apt-get them.
[09:47] <ecinx> flash plugin
[09:47] <ecinx> Warning Mark additional requrired changes
[09:47] <dirty-harry> Fezzler: kms are disabled on bootoptions and nouveau should be easy by apt-get but I don't find an exact 2 line tut
[09:47] <cryptk> if you are using more than the 4GB of ram that 32 bit will allow, then your system would likely be faster than 32 bit, but that is because of the extra ram, not necessarially because the OS is 64 bit
[09:47] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Yes, I was hoping someone with a browser would help me out
[09:47] <dirty-harry> Fezzler: you too
[09:47] <cryptk> ubuntu, see what I mean? 64 bit OS allows you to do things that will make the system faster, but if you are running 64 bit without doing those things, you likely wouldn't notice a difference
[09:47] <Pentium3> Fezzler: so its an nVidia GeForce FX5500?
[09:48] <Pentium3> Fezzler: just for confirmation
[09:48] <xiong> ecinx, Back out of that. Let's keep it simple.
[09:48] <ubuntu> cryptk: yeah so 32bit supports 4gb but not more than that?
[09:48] <Fezzler> Pentium3: Yes, nvidia GeoForce FX5500
[09:48] <ecinx> ok
[09:48] <xiong> ecinx, Try installing libfuse-perl.
[09:48] <Pentium3> Fezzler: ok give me and google a few mins
[09:49] <ubuntu> cryptk: if i have 4gb i dont need to install 64bit version right
[09:49] <casadrya> hello, I'm having problems trying to share a folder
[09:49] <ecinx> same thing, but much fewer mark additional required changes
[09:49] <casadrya> can someone halep me
[09:49] <casadrya> help me
[09:49] <ubuntu> !ask | casadrya
[09:49] <acacios> merry christmas!
[09:49] <Fezzler> Pentium3: I think it was working with a package 173?
[09:50] <rigved> !pae | ubuntu
[09:50] <Fezzler> Pentium3: or something
[09:50] <cryptk> ubuntu, read this http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/clearing-up-the-3264-bit-memory-limit-confusion/3124
[09:50] <casadrya> I'm getting the following error:
[09:50] <casadrya> Failed to execute child process "testparm" (No such file or directory)
[09:50] <cryptk> that will explain it
[09:50] <ubuntu> oh ok
[09:50] <ubuntu> tks rigved and casadrya
[09:50] <ecinx> xiong: not authenticated openjdk 6 jre headless "hah" , and libfuse-perl
[09:50] <Pentium3> Fezzler: type in "sudo apt-get install nvidia-173
[09:50] <rigved> ubuntu: you are welcome
[09:51] <Fezzler> Pentium3: here goes something
[09:51] <rigved> Fezzler: what ubuntu version do you have? 10.04
[09:51] <Fezzler> rigved: yes
[09:51] <cryptk> ubuntu, just know that PAE is a little slower than just straight 64 bit... but not slow enough that would notice a difference
[09:51] <Pentium3> Fezzler: that should do it
[09:51] <Fezzler> rigved: why - something to consider before I install that driver?
[09:51] <ubuntu> hm
[09:51] <rigved> Fezzler: then i think that the latest for 10.04 if 195
[09:51] <manlymat183> Does anyone know anything about Verizon and tethering with bluetooth in 10.10? I'm using the bluetooth DUN wizard but Verizon isn't a listed option - only T-Mobile, AT&T, and three others...
[09:52] <Fezzler> rigved: thanks.  I know 173 was working
[09:52] <xiong> ecinx, This is a bit difficult because I can't say offhand what has no dependencies. I might pick something on my machine for which I have already got dependencies installed.
[09:52] <cryptk> and the amount of ram usabe on a 32 bit machine (excluding PAE) will vary depending on other system spec
[09:52] <rigved> Fezzler: just saying that you could directly install 195. but if you want install 173. it's very stable
[09:52] <cryptk> the article I linked explains all of that
[09:52] <ubuntu> cryptk: yeah thanks
[09:52] <Pentium3> Fezzler: I just suggested it because it was an early release which would probably work to limp you into X so you could check for the latest
[09:52] <casadrya> hmmm, ok i'll try again later
[09:53] <Paultje66> hello, im trying to get a script run with crontables. i add the crontable and the script starts(script for downloading movie trailers. But the script only downloads 1 trailer. If i manually start the script it downloads everything. DOes anyone know what it could be ?
[09:53] <xiong> ecinx, But you did say something else that tickles my antenna. Are you somehow running Synaptic without entering your password?
[09:53] <ecinx> it asks for the password at the very beggining
[09:53] <ketralnis> I'm trying to upgrade a machine to 10.04 using "apt-get dist-upgrade", but part of that process wants to upgrade some bits of Java. That upgrade process hangs my machine, and when I go to resume the upgrade I get "you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem". But of course that hangs the machine
[09:54] <ketralnis> Fortunately, I don't need java. But I can't remove it without running "sudo dpkg --configure -a", which, again, hangs the machine :)
[09:54] <xiong> ecinx, That's correct. Not sure what "not authenticated" means here. Didn't you say that jdk was involved in some earlier effort you made to install/upgrade/repair something?
[09:54] <ketralnis> Is there a way to tell it to finish that process *except* for Java?
[09:54] <Pentium3> Fezzler: best of luck to you and I'm off, Merry Christmas.
[09:54] <xiong> ecinx, See if you can install a package that doesn't depend on jdk.
[09:55] <ecinx> maybe i have a prob w/ jdk
[09:55] <Pentium3> Good Night all, and a Merry Christmas to you all.
[09:56] <xiong> ecinx, That's what I'd like to isolate. Try installing libmemetic0.
[09:56] <ubuntu> "A 64-bit computer will be able to address up to 16.8 million TB (16 exabytes) although constraints are in place that limit this to around 1TB." o.O
[09:56] <xiong> ecinx, Doesn't matter what you install; you can remove it later. I'd just like to see Synaptic working for you at all.
[09:57] <Fezzler> well
[09:57] <Fezzler> nvidia 173 installed
[09:57] <ecinx> i can't find libmemetric
[09:57] <Fezzler> commencing reboot
[09:57] <ecinx> libmemetic
[09:57] <ubuntu> "Some applications such as Flash do run slower in 64-bit mode, however work continues to improve on this." doesnt make sense
[09:57] <xiong> ecinx, Don't type; copy-and-paste into the Synaptic search box.
[09:58] <cryptk> ubuntu, that is because of limitations in flash
[09:58] <xiong> ecinx, Actually, I'm wrong here. Sorry.
[09:59] <cryptk> the flash guys are just now starting to make 64 bit native versions of flash
[09:59] <cdbs> ubuntu: it means that flash apps run slowly on 64-bit systems. But due to some work in-progress, its slowly improving
[09:59] <xiong> ecinx, Search for 'mimetic'.
[09:59] <ubuntu> so I visit youtube a lot i should stick to 32bit :p
[10:00] <cryptk> well, with your system specs, you don't really have a reason to use 64 bit..
[10:00] <cryptk> me personally I have flash working very well in 64 bit, but it took a little work
[10:00] <xiong> ecinx, I get 4 hits on that. Try checking only libmimetic0 to install, then click Apply.
[10:00] <ubuntu> cryptk: yeah i dont need 4gb of ram :p
[10:00] <ecinx> mark additional req changes openjdk 6
[10:00] <rigved> ubuntu: yes. there is a flash plugin for 64-bit linux in the development phase
[10:00] <ubuntu> k
[10:01] <xiong> ecinx, Ok. That seems funny to me. Try some random stuff, see if everything demands openjdk.
[10:01] <rigved> ketralnis: try aptitude
[10:02] <ketralnis> rigved: what do you mean? "sudo aptitude remove sun-java6-jdk" still says "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem"
[10:03] <xiong> ecinx, It may well be that Synaptic itself depends on openjdk; perhaps the K package manager does, also. I'd think that Synaptic then would not run but who knows.
[10:03] <ecinx> i think i got an ida
[10:03] <rigved> ketralnis: have you tried that - sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[10:03] <bluenemo> hi guys. when i go to google.com iceweasel links me to google.de even when i have tor on. so I think its a config in iceweasel.. how can I deactivate this?
[10:03] <ketralnis> rigved:  Yes. Like I said, it triggers a bug in EC2 that hangs the machine as part of the Java upgrade process
[10:03] <olivier> Merry christmas everyone
[10:04] <adhari> hii all
[10:04] <ketralnis> linux-ec2 bug #538057 if you're curious
[10:04] <Stava> How do I make evolution close/exit to the system tray/icon and stay there to notify me about mail and such?
[10:04] <rigved> ketralnis: i don't know about that but try removing the lock files and then try again
[10:04] <ketralnis> So now i want to let it resume its upgrade, *except* for the Java packages, because the upgrade of those hangs the machine
[10:05] <ketralnis> rigved: ah, that's just triggered on the presence of a lockfile? I figured it was triggered on an inconsistent package database. Do you know where said lockfile exists?
[10:06] <olivier> I need help for debugging a sound issue on 9.04. It works for seconds then stops. I can hear it again just for one second if I make the system beep.
[10:06] <ubuntu> My front audio jack doesnt work what can be the problem
[10:06] <xiong> ecinx, ketralnis, I think your issues are related. There may be some trouble with the jdk file on the repo.
[10:07] <ecinx> my broken dependencies are JRE related
[10:07] <ubuntu> I have audio in, mic in in the front, 6 jack in the back and spdif
[10:07] <ketralnis> I'd be happy to just remove Java altogether
[10:07] <ketralnis> rigved: btw removing /var/lib/dpkg/lock does not eliminate that message
[10:08] <rigved> ketralnis: sudo cp /etc/cache/apt/lock ~/
[10:08] <rigved> ketralnis: then sudo rm /etc/cache/apt/lock
[10:08] <ketralnis> I don't have an /etc/cache
[10:09] <ecinx> now i have , not 4, but 3 broken
[10:09] <olivier> Someone to help me solving my sound issue ? Please have mercy...
[10:09] <rigved> ketralnis: locate /apt/lock
[10:11] <Phonic[UK]> hey all
[10:11] <ketralnis> rigved: I'm fairly certain that this isn't an issue of lockfiles. I say that because strace indicates that it creates the locks *before* it checks /var/lib/dpkg/updates
[10:11] <ubuntu> !ask | olivier
[10:11] <Phonic[UK]> anyone know of a tool to calibrate my laptops touchscreen?
[10:11] <Phonic[UK]> my google fu fails
[10:12] <rigved> ketralnis: ok. sorry then i do not know about this. :)
[10:13] <ketralnis> Anyone know what conditions necessitate "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem", and how I can resolve them, potentially by hand, without actually running that command?
[10:13] <ketralnis> Specifically there's an upgrade step for a package that I want to avoid, and I'm okay with just removing the package instead
[10:13] <Tyrnis> plop all
[10:14] <olivier> Damn bots, I've already detailed my problem, should I explain another time ? And be likened to a flooder ?
[10:14] <nit-wit> ketralnis, usually a interuption of a update
[10:14] <ketralnis> nit-wit: that is indeed what happened here. Unfortunately it's because one of those upgrade steps crashes the EC2 instance hosting the machine (which is why I don't want it to run again)
[10:14] <ShapeShifter499> I'm getting this error when trying to run google earth-------------->   /opt/google/earth/free/google-earth: 43: ./googleearth-bin: not found
[10:15] <ShapeShifter499> why is this?
[10:15] <rigved> olivier: use pastebin to detail your problem and then give that link here as well as a short description here ;)
[10:16] <rigved> Phonic[UK]: http://setupguides.blogspot.com/2010/10/calibrating-touchscreen-in-ubuntu-1010.html
[10:16] <olivier> rigved: Ok, at once.
[10:16] <nit-wit> ketralnis, can you lock the package in synaptic or just remove it? Is it a dependent pckg
[10:17] <ShapeShifter499> :/
[10:17] <rigved> ShapeShifter499: did you install google earth using a the .bin file from the google website?
[10:17] <ketralnis> nit-wit: I don't have synaptic installed (and can't install it with dpkg in this state), do you know how to lock it from dpkg?
[10:17] <ShapeShifter499> rigved no the 64 bit deb file
[10:18] <ketralnis> It's dependent but not for anything that I want, I'm perfectly happy to just lock the whole dep tree and remove it afterwards
[10:18] <nit-wit> ketralnis, are you just using cli
[10:18] <ketralnis> Yeah
[10:18] <nit-wit> ketralnis, I don't know the commands
[10:18] <rigved> ShapeShifter499: open up Software Center and check if it lists Google Earth as installed?
[10:19] <xiong> ecinx, That's progress!
[10:19] <ecinx> yes
[10:19] <ShapeShifter499> rigved it show it being installed, and I have the folder open right now... its like the CLI can't find google earth or something
[10:19] <ecinx> i went to where it says broken dependencies
[10:19] <ecinx> and try to uninstall
[10:19] <xiong> ecinx, Are the 3 currently broken packages related?
[10:19] <nit-wit> ShapeShifter499, sudo apt-get install lsb-core
[10:20] <rigved> ShapeShifter499: run it from Applications > Internet (i think)
[10:20] <ecinx> yes
[10:20] <ecinx> default-jre-headless icedtea-6-tre-cacao oopenjdk-6-jre-lib
[10:20] <ShapeShifter499> rigved, I did first and it wouldn't run, so I took the command and tried from CLI and I got  that error
[10:20] <xiong> ecinx, This issue may go on for a time. For reference, why not pastebin the names of all 3 packages.
[10:21] <rigved> ShapeShifter499: try what nit-wit says ^^
[10:21] <ShapeShifter499> doing that now
[10:21] <traceto> I have a netbook with a bcm4313 wireless networkcard and it works great now but when i do a "iwconfig" i see that my connection is "eth1", should it not be wlan0 or something?
[10:21] <xiong> ecinx, What I want you to do is explore the dependencies. There should not be any circular dependencies; therefore, at least one of those packages does not depend on either of the other two. Try installing just that one.
[10:21] <ShapeShifter499> nit-wit, yay!!! thank you!!
[10:22] <ShapeShifter499> nit-wit, that worked
[10:22] <rigved> ShapeShifter499: is it working now?
[10:22] <ShapeShifter499> rigved, yay that worked
[10:22] <rigved> ShapeShifter499: ok
[10:22] <nit-wit> ShapeShifter499, I saw it on the Ubuntu Forums no problem
[10:22] <ShapeShifter499> thanks for finding the solution for me
[10:23] <nit-wit> ShapeShifter499, I had lke version 5.2 until I found this a couple of days ago
[10:23] <nit-wit> *like
[10:24] <ShapeShifter499> weird firefox wont open...
[10:24] <ShapeShifter499> keeps telling me a version is all ready open
[10:24] <olivier> rigved and all of you who could help :  http://pastebin.com/WGPxCp5z
[10:24] <ShapeShifter499> oh never
[10:25] <ShapeShifter499> *never mind
[10:26] <rigved> !9.04 | olivier
[10:26] <ecinx> now there are two broken
[10:26] <Jemt> Hi. What command line program can I use to remove a user from a group ?
[10:26] <rigved> olivier: 9.04 is no longer supported with updates. i suggest that you first install 10.04
[10:26] <MJBrune> so how can i scan my hdd for errors and bad sectors?
[10:27] <nirazio> I've got a 3-rd party proprietary application server daemon which can be started and stopped by couple of command lines. I need this daemon to start when the system starts up and correctly stopped on system shutting down. How do I correctly implement this?
[10:27] <ecinx> crap, now back to three
[10:27] <rigved> !cron | nirazio
[10:28] <rigved> !init | nirazio
[10:28] <Guybrush88> is it normal for gtkpod and rhythmbox to crash while importing song on an ipod without leaving a crash report and without putting songs on the ipod?
[10:28] <Jemt> Ah, usermod
[10:28] <rigved> nirazio: use /etc/rc.local or bum
[10:30] <MJBrune> so how can i scan my hdd for errors and bad sectors?
[10:30] <olivier> Ok, I hate leaving problem unresolved but since it's no longer supported, I have no other alternative... thank you anyway
[10:31] <nirazio> rigved: what is bum??
[10:32] <sriubuntu1104> ok, i have joined this group for the first time
[10:33] <sriubuntu1104> can some help me here
[10:33] <bazhang> sriubuntu1104, ask a question first
[10:34] <sriubuntu1104> Skype instance in Unity Panel, not maintaining Single instance
[10:34] <Guybrush88> is it normal for gtkpod and rhythmbox to crash while importing song on an ipod without leaving a crash report and without putting songs on the ipod?
[10:35] <share> How can I add location that is not on the list to check weather
[10:35] <share> ?
[10:36] <share> everybody disappeared
[10:37] <MJBrune> right when i am having hdd problems
[10:37] <share> :P
[10:38] <sriubuntu1104> i wanted to check, whether it is a Bug, before i log in Launchpad, with Skype instance in Unity Panel
[10:38] <bazhang> MJBrune, with badblocks
[10:38] <ddalton> i am looking to run ubuntu cos debian is starting to annoy me a few things.
[10:39] <ddalton> 1. what version of ubuntu should i run on my asus eeepc netbook? i hear the netbook adition is heavily modified. what is the speed difference like between desktop ubuntu and netbook ubuntu? I do 95% of the stuff in the console, but still want a responsive gui.
[10:39] <MJBrune> my df -h looks really weird
[10:40] <bazhang> ddalton, you could use the regular ubuntu, but une is made specially for such small screens
[10:40] <ddalton> edition*
[10:40] <attidude> hi.. I just installed ubuntu 10.04... but I can't login
[10:40] <attidude> i'm getting a authentication failure
[10:40] <bazhang> ddalton, mostly the difference is the configurability (or lack thereof)
[10:41] <ddalton> bazhang: well I'm blind so screen doesn't really worry me, what is the speed difference between the two like? is ubuntu netbook better suited to lower end specs?
[10:41] <bazhang> ddalton, not really, no. for low end something like lubuntu
[10:41] <attidude> help
[10:41] <ddalton> bazhang: oh does that use a different default desktop or something?
[10:42] <bazhang> attidude, pastebin the exact error and give us the url
[10:42] <bazhang> ddalton, openbox and lxde
[10:42] <bazhang> ddalton, also chromium is the default browser
[10:42] <share> do you know how can I add custom location weather plugin in Ubuntu
[10:42] <attidude> when i boot up ubuntu... it asks me to login.. when I enter the username and password ... it says authentication failure
[10:42] <bazhang> !paste | attidude
[10:43] <attidude> there isn't any error message that i can post
[10:43] <ddalton> bazhang: right, fair enough I probs will be using gnome  just for accessibility, but i could install lxde myself and choose my default desktop as i do on debian right?
[10:43] <bazhang> ddalton, yeppers
[10:43] <bazhang> ddalton, the -desktop packages
[10:44] <bazhang> attidude, without more info very difficult to troubleshoot
[10:44] <MJBrune> http://pastebin.ca/2028799 does this look normal
[10:44] <sriubuntu1104> hi guys, can some one help me?
[10:44] <MJBrune> why do the other slices have no fs?
[10:44] <ddalton>  bazhang: fantastic, so it sounds like i want the standard ubuntu  which i could modify myself manually?
[10:45] <icesword> bazhang, merry christmas
[10:45] <bazhang> ddalton, you could do so, either by installing a -core package, or using the minimal iso and building up, or remastering something
[10:45] <bazhang> ddalton, the minimal iso is around 16-20mb
[10:46] <randy2009> Hi, how can i let tar create a archive, and if archive exists append to archive? It looks like there are no options for it
[10:46] <ddalton> oh, no i was planning to install the main distro so the bulk of the stuff is installed.
[10:47] <Paultje66> hello, im trying to get a script run with crontables. i add the crontable and the script starts(script for downloading movie trailers. But the script only downloads 1 trailer. If i manually start the script it downloads everything. DOes anyone know what it could be ?
[10:47] <bazhang> ddalton, you could do that as well, then pare down if you so desired
[10:47] <AbiGeuS> hello all. I tried to install ubuntu 10.10 on my notebook. When I pass three steps installation failed. gparted failed with mistake. Have anybody the same problem? Sorry for my English, I am from russia.
[10:48] <bazhang> AbiGeuS, what was the exact (mistake) error message
[10:48] <bazhang> AbiGeuS, paste.ubuntu.com if more than a single line
[10:48] <zengeev> hello
[10:48] <kad_> heys!! i ineed help!! i have HP Pavilion Dv6 i7, there's 8G RAM , under windows they appear: 8G but under ubuntu they only appear 3.8G why? Ubuntu is 64-bit !!plz help
[10:48] <zengeev> have anybody used openqrm with ubuntu
[10:48] <bazhang> AbiGeuS, there is #ubuntu-ru if wish for Russian help as well
[10:49] <zengeev> plus lxc containers
[10:49] <Jemt> Can someone tell me how to change a user's password without prompting for it; Something like "changepasswd username encryptedPass"
[10:49] <ddalton> i'm probably going to be ok with the standard desktop for when it is required (less than 5% of the time)
[10:49] <ddalton>  bazhang: do you see any problems with me just mounting my /home debian partition under ubuntu as /home? it should work and apps should be fine using my config files set up under debian shouldn't they?
[10:49] <FloodBot3> ddalton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <bazhang> ddalton, I'd think the data would be fine, but config is somewhat doubtful
[10:50] <ddalton>  bazhang: arg, the bot yelled  at me dunno if you got that.
[10:50] <bazhang> ddalton, got it
[10:50] <ddalton>  bazhang: i should be fine mounting my /home debian partition from debian under ubuntu right?
[10:50] <ddalton> to make config files available to apps under ubtunu
[10:50] <ddalton> ubuntu*
[10:50] <bazhang> ddalton, doubtful the config files would work 100%
[10:51] <ddalton>  bazhang: really, i thought things like emacs, mutt, lynx etc. wuld be pretty standard across distro?
[10:51] <bazhang> ddalton, sure for some, but best to be prepared for the glitch or three
[10:52] <ddalton>  bazhang: another thing that got under my nerves when playing with i believe it was the netbook edition was the fact wifi would be switched off when switching to a vc (alt+ctr+f1/f6.) can i use wifi from the console?
[10:52] <ddalton> (with the default manager network-manager) or shall i configure wpasupplicant or something?
[10:52] <ddalton>  bazhang: fair enough
[10:53] <bazhang> ddalton, sure, cli is fine; /msg ubottu wifi for a complete guide/links to such
[10:53] <ddalton> great
[10:54] <ddalton>  bazhang: and i'm guessing you probably wouldn't know. is there any accessible installer under ubuntu with screenreader/braille etc.?
[10:54] <bazhang> !info orca
[10:54] <gingivere15> ddalton, wifi works on my ctrl-alt-f1 in desktop edition
[10:54] <bazhang> !info gnome-orca
[10:55] <bazhang> ddalton, gnome-orca it seems is a screenreader
[10:55] <ddalton> yes, indeed though i wonder if it works with your gui installer... perhaps I'll examine the wiki.
[10:56] <ddalton>  bazhang: or do you have a text based installer?
[10:56] <xiong> ecinx, How's it going?
[10:56] <bazhang> ddalton, there is console-braille as well; apt-cache search braille may turn up others
[10:56] <bazhang> ddalton, the alternate iso uses ncurses
[10:56] <ecinx> trying
[10:56] <R2D2_PL> elo
[10:56] <ddalton> yes there is brltty as i said it's more an issue whether the installer supports these various packages
[10:56] <kad_> heys!! i ineed help!! i have HP Pavilion Dv6 i7, there's 8G RAM , under windows they appear: 8G but under ubuntu they only appear 3.8G why? Ubuntu is 64-bit !!plz help
[10:56] <xiong> ecinx, Were you able to install any package at all? That is, something downloaded, something installed.
[10:57] <bazhang> ddalton, not sure about that one, sorry
[10:57] <ecinx> nope
[10:57] <ddalton>  bazhang: does the alternate  image package the gnome desktop etc.?
[10:57] <ecinx> im stuck with this jre stuff
[10:57] <bazhang> ddalton, yep
[10:57] <xiong> ecinx, Have you figured out the dependency tree for the broken packages?
[10:57] <ecinx> is there a way to manually delete them?
[10:57] <ddalton> so it doesn't really matter which one i use, i get the same stuff?
[10:57] <ecinx> I don't know about linux
[10:58] <ecinx> so I don't know what a dependency tree is
[10:58] <Ibn_Ali_al-Turki> i suggest you fellas download 2clickupdate
[10:58] <xiong> ecinx, I would not consider trying to delete outright all your Java. It's likely that many, many other things depend on your Java system.
[10:58] <Ibn_Ali_al-Turki> from the package manager
[10:58] <bazhang> ddalton, for the most part, yes, though the alternate iso is more intuitive for partitioning, etc., in my view
[10:58] <xiong> ecinx, Do you understand what I mean by "dependency"?
[10:58] <ecinx> it's jdk
[10:58] <bazhang> !find 2clickupdate
[10:59] <ecinx> and i think jdk is for programmin
[10:59] <bazhang> Ibn_Ali_al-Turki, thats not a package
[10:59] <ecinx> I need to install it again
[10:59] <ecinx> for eclipse
[10:59] <ddalton>  bazhang: great. that leads to my final question (sorry about all the queries!)
[10:59] <AbiGeuS> gparted wrote something like:gparted fails to be loaded
[11:00] <AbiGeuS> and Assertion (head_size <= 63) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:662 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed.
[11:00] <ddalton> i have a crap load of partitions here. like 7  and am already booting debian/windows. so i'm going to  make a 15 gb partition under extended. can i tell the installer to install to this partition?
[11:00] <ecinx> xiong: no, i don't know what it means but i have an idea
[11:00] <bazhang> AbiGeuS, gparted from the livecd? the gparted livecd itself?
[11:00] <xiong> ecinx, Mm, I'm interested in some level of abstraction here. Please take a quick look at (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_graph). I'll be using terms related to that article.
[11:00] <xiong> ecinx, You don't need to get into it deeply.
[11:01] <AbiGeuS> gparted from livesd. I trying install ubuntu from livecd
[11:01] <lahcene> yes
[11:01] <lahcene> hello
[11:02] <lahcene> can you help me
[11:02] <lahcene> !
[11:03] <lahcene> ok
[11:03] <bazhang> lahcene, ask a question first
[11:03] <ecinx> sorry
[11:03] <ecinx> sorry irc crashed again
[11:03] <lahcene> not matter
[11:03] <lahcene> i'm new
[11:03] <lahcene> just to say you hay
[11:03] <lahcene> i will contact you lather
[11:03] <bazhang> lahcene, actual support issue?
[11:04] <andrew_46> ecinx: Which irc client are you using?
[11:04] <lahcene> yes
[11:04] <ecinx> quassel
[11:04] <bazhang> lahcene, then ask, just chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:04] <ecinx> it's for Kubuntu i think but im not on the kubuntu
[11:04] <ecinx> im on gnome
[11:04] <lahcene> ok
[11:04] <lahcene> thank you
[11:05] <lahcene> i will contact you next time
[11:05] <infrid64> hi
[11:05] <lahcene> bye
[11:05] <ecinx> xiong: this looks like discrete math
[11:05] <AbiGeuS> I can start gparted by gksu gparted /dev/sda
[11:06] <xiong> ecinx, Please don't get into it too deeply. But there are some key concepts here, not just key to your immediate issue but to computers in general.
[11:07] <xiong> ecinx, If you like, you can step over into the next room and /join #ubuntu-tree. All are welcome to this. I'll explain some very basic concepts in graph theory as they relate to computers in general.
[11:07] <bazhang> xiong, there is no such official channel, please keep it here
[11:07] <xiong> I'll be talking at some length on the topic of graphs, dependencies, cycles, trees, and so forth.
[11:08] <xiong> bazhang, You do not want me to pollute this chan with an extended lecture, I'm sure.
[11:10] <ddalton>  bazhang: think my connection dropped out. do you have any ideas if i can install directly to a particular partition which is under my extended partition?
[11:10] <ddalton> (using text based installer from alternate image)
[11:10] <rs0832>  /join #ubuntu-tree
[11:12] <ddalton> rs0832: arg, you don't want the white space before the /:P
[11:12] <bazhang> ddalton, not sure about that one
[11:12] <ddalton> alrighty, no worries, thanks for all your help!
[11:12] <rs0832> ddalton, i know it was a typo :)
[11:12] <rs0832> ddalton, was standing and typing:p
[11:13] <AbiGeuS> bazhang: have any idea?
[11:14] <tarvid> converting vob to mp4 with vlc and the output is pixelated, is this a bug?
[11:15] <rs0832> tarvid, it is not a bug :)
[11:15] <tarvid> then what is it?
[11:15] <tarvid> the output is unusable
[11:15] <rs0832> tarvid, you have to select your configurations properly
[11:16] <tarvid> not much to configure in the gui
[11:16] <andrew_46> tarvid: Have you considered using FFmpeg?
[11:16] <rs0832> tarvid, what about resolutions?
[11:16] <mirko_> http://libertylist.altervista.org/?q=I.Mercenari.The.Expendables#
[11:17] <paxco> hello neo
[11:17] <tarvid> not in tue gui
[11:18] <rs0832> tarvid, yes use ffmpeg
[11:18] <tarvid> then it is a bug in vlc but perhaps not in ffmpeg?