[00:08] <BarkingFish> morning guys - anyone awake, I'm in need of help, thanks to my fiddling around with stuff I didn't fully understand.
[00:09] <BarkingFish> I installed the proprietary driver for my nvidia GeForce 6200 graphics card using Jockey-KDE, and now my monitor on the inbuilt graphics card won't go above 50Hz resolution, which is way too low for me.
[00:09] <BarkingFish> I'm a photosensitive epileptic, and at that level, I can clearly see the refresh. I need to get my monitor back to using whatever driver was there prior, but I don't know how to get rid of the driver I just installed :(
[00:10] <BarkingFish> i'm using a GUI at the moment, but I had to pop a spare PCI graphics card in my PC so I could use the display
[00:11] <BarkingFish> can anyone please help me?  Ideally, I need to get my monitor to refresh at 75Hz or higher - on the old driver, it would go to 80Hz.
[00:36] <BarkingFish> sorry guys - lost my connection for a bit.  Can anyone please, please help me fix the problem I pasted up in here about 20 minutes ago?
[00:37] <BarkingFish> At the moment, I'm on the verge of stripping the whole of kubuntu down and reinstalling.  If I can't fix it, and i can't get help to fix it, i reset and start again :)
[00:38] <BarkingFish> i'm not gonna have unnecessary junk in my machine - a second graphics card is junk when there's one already built in :)
[00:39] <genii-around> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current      will probably do it
[00:40] <BarkingFish> excellent :)  thank you.
[01:20] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:21] <SIR_Taco_> !bananasplit
[01:21] <genii-around> Hm
[01:21] <SIR_Taco_> darn...
[02:09] <avihay> !bananasplit
[02:31] <OerHeks> avihay, > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bananasplitter/files/
[02:32] <avihay> thanks, I've expected ubottu to know that
[02:52] <dniMretsaM> ok. my server is now configured to download Quantal via torrent whenever it appears online.
[02:53]  * dniMretsaM considers having it automatically put on a USB stick automatically as well
[02:54] <dniMretsaM> oops. wrong channel, lol
[03:51] <gurrag> How can I set up a Chinese input method in Kubuntu?
[03:55] <SIR_Taco_> !scim
[06:29] <CosmicB> I've told kde to 'show unmanaged windows on : Display containing the pointer' under system settings -> disp. and mon. -> multiple monitors . but still, new windows tend to pop up on my second monitor (the one _not_ containing the pointer) , has anyone run into that ?
[06:31] <shadeslayer> CosmicB: KDE version?
[06:31] <CosmicB> shadeslayer 4.8.5, kubuntu 12.04
[06:33] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: I'm using a laptop, it got 2 monitors connected at work, mabye something get confused when I'm having the internal monitor while at home, but 2 external monitors at work (?)
[06:33] <shadeslayer> CosmicB: could you try 4.9.2 from the PPA? Maybe your bug is fixed there?
[06:34] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: yeah, I could always try that.
[06:34] <shadeslayer> if it's not, please report a bug on bugs.kde.org :)
[06:35] <CosmicB> I did try 4.9.2 before the weekend, but after upgrading to 4.9.2 i wanted to install kubuntu-full for some reason, it wouldn't install because of dependencie problems, som I ended up downgrading againn
[06:35] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: yeah, will do :)
[06:49] <shadeslayer> oh my
[06:49] <shadeslayer> CosmicB: downgrading isn't really supported
[06:49]  * shadeslayer looks why kubuntu-full isn't installable
[06:50] <shadeslayer> hm, looks fine here
[06:51] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: and you've got 4.9.2 in kubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:52] <shadeslayer> yus
[06:53] <CosmicB> shadeslayer downgrade went fine with ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && apt-get autoremove
[06:53] <CosmicB> shadeslayer, but I'm gonna try a new upgrade, 4.9.2 was looking intereseting the 15 or so minutes I ran it
[06:54] <shadeslayer> hmm ... well ... I'm just saying that downgrading isn't really supported ;)
[06:54] <CosmicB> shadeslayer :p
[06:56] <shadeslayer> so you can downgrade, but you might encounter unexpected behaviour
[06:56] <CosmicB> su
[06:56] <CosmicB> $3ssEnc3
[06:56] <CosmicB> fuck
[06:56] <CosmicB> there goes my favorite password
[06:57] <bazhang> !language > CosmicB
[06:57] <shadeslayer> *cough* language
[06:57] <Tm_T> CosmicB: please watch your language
[06:58] <CosmicB> yeah yeah, no offense ment. it's not everyday I wreck my pass by sending it into a public irc channel
[06:59] <shadeslayer> that is exactly the reason why I don't use terminal irc clients like irssi :P
[07:00] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: I'm not, I'm  using konversation
[07:00] <shadeslayer> ah
[07:00] <shadeslayer> in which case, simply bad luck
[07:01] <CosmicB> but I've been in gnome since around 2004, and in unity for the last year or so. haven't been in kde for a long time, it takes a while to get utsed to those small diferences in how it behaves :p
[07:04]  * CosmicB is upgrading to 4.9.2
[09:56] <ovidiu-florin> is there a way I can set up KMail to read the HTML and display the messages with all the html content?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: it should be configurable
[10:12] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: I foud a setting, to add an HTML toolbar
[10:13] <ovidiu-florin> wich is very hard to click on, and by default it goes to plain text
[10:13] <ovidiu-florin> how can I set the default view to be HTML
[10:13] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[10:13] <shadeslayer> lemme see
[10:14] <shadeslayer> ok
[10:14] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: Settings > Configure KMail > Security > Prefer HTML to text
[10:15] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: thank you
[10:15] <shadeslayer> np
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:45] <xevwork> I'm having an odd issue with X on Kubuntu 12.04.1 - When I leave my system on over night, most of the time when I get to it in the morning, the monitors won't get any signal from the graphics card.
[12:45] <xevwork> It's an ATI 6950
[13:05] <FlashDeluxe> hi! how can i open a .dmp file with linux? Is there a tool for it?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, is that a compressed file , if so try unp
[13:16] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj its a .dmp file, created by thunderbird (its crashing all the time) unp doesn`t know the format :-(
[13:17] <hateball> what is the actual mimetype? file whatever.dmp
[13:17] <hateball> FlashDeluxe: ^
[13:17] <hateball> an extension does not a file make
[13:18] <FlashDeluxe> MDMP crash report data
[13:18] <FlashDeluxe> hateball ^
[13:19] <hateball> Well what do you expect to do with it?
[13:19] <hateball> it's not a human readable crash log
[13:19] <FlashDeluxe> soo i guessed there was a program which makes it human readable?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> .dmp files are windows dump files according google , very hard to read , unless you use visual studio
[13:22] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj i guess with windows you got to use "windows debugging tools" thats the program where i read out minidumps, created by windows. But i thought there was soemthing for linux, too
[13:24] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, there might be a method , but like windows .exe files there's a problem using them in linux , I believe
[13:24] <shadeslayer> from what I'm reading dmp is for windows dumps
[13:24] <shadeslayer> not sure if there'll be a tool to parse them in Linux
[13:25] <FlashDeluxe> Maybe there is no sense in reading windows dumps in linux^^
[13:27] <shadeslayer> probably not
[13:27] <BluesKaj> wine , maybe ?
[13:28] <shadeslayer> well ... if windows has a tool to parse them, you could install wine, run the tool and read them
[13:28] <shadeslayer> but imo that's just so much hassle >.>
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , I avoid wine , sooner deal with windows files on the windows drive
[13:39] <FlashDeluxe> if anyone is interested: i could open it with winedbg
[13:41] <BluesKaj> BBL
[13:49] <danni> does any body know what the status is for synaptic drivers in 12.10
[13:49] <genii-around> danni: There was an update just now
[13:49] <danni> I found a package that lets synaptiks run
[13:49] <genii-around> ( for kde-config-touchpad )
[13:50] <danni> but there are options missing and without those options
[13:50] <danni> 12.10 is unusable for me
[13:50] <danni> (well without starting syndaemon from the command line)
[13:51] <danni> two things really no option to disable touchpad while typing
[13:52] <danni> and 2) no global shortcut for enabling disabling touchpad
[13:53] <danni> are fixes for any of these planned before release?
[13:54] <shadeslayer> I would suggest reporting bugs and adding them to the ISO QA tracker
[13:54] <shadeslayer> that gives developers more visibility about pending issues :)
[13:54] <lordievader> danni: There is a unity indicator for disabling the touchpad, this also offers a keyboard shortcut.
[13:54] <shadeslayer> relevant URL : http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[13:57] <danni> using KDE here
[13:57] <danni> i don't think  a unity indicator is going to be much help
[13:57] <lordievader> danni: It will, indicators work fine under kde.
[13:57] <danni> ok
[13:59] <danni> does anybody know the rational behind  the removed functionality?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> just checking out xchat on windows
[13:59] <danni> lordievader: do you know the name of the package?
[14:00] <lordievader> danni: touchpad-indicator, not sure if you needed a ppa for it..
[14:02] <tragopaparo> akouei kanas malakas?
[14:02] <of> What package are you guys use for PPTP vpn connection? Does network-manager-kde work? I can't make it work
[14:03] <shadeslayer> of: do you have the backported package from kubuntu backports?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> I recently uploaded a new nm-kde which had support for vpn's and openconnect
[14:04] <of> I installed kde 4.9 (Recent update)
[14:05] <of> How can i upgrade the network-manager?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> can you check if nm-kde is up to date?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-networkmanagement network-manager-pptp
[14:08] <of> already newest version.... I installed the kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu
[14:11] <shadeslayer> hm
[14:11] <shadeslayer> of: not sure then, can you report a bug on bugs.kde.org ?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> maybe it gets solved with new nm-pptp?
[14:16] <of> nah
[14:16] <shadeslayer> I meant, maybe it's solved with nm-pptp <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 :)
[14:17] <shadeslayer> but I can't be sure
[14:21] <tragopaparo> poustaria oloi
[14:23] <danni> is it possible to use dkms to patch a driver already in the kernel?
[14:24] <of> shadeslayer, Is there any deb package of this version?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> !gr | tragopaparo
[14:27] <shadeslayer> kind of
[14:28] <shadeslayer> of: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1
[14:28] <shadeslayer> you'll have to manually install the debs, but I'm not even sure if they'll install
[14:28] <shadeslayer> or work as expected
[14:29] <of> Already looking at that page... Perhaps i should apply the patch using dpkg-source?
[14:30] <shadeslayer> if you have a launchpad account you can make a ppa and run backportpackage to backport that package for precise
[14:30] <lawrence> hello
[14:30]  * BluesKaj avoids NM , except on wifi
[14:30] <shadeslayer> that'll be the right way to do it
[14:31] <lawrence> hello shade
[14:42] <shadeslayer> of: I can't really give you anymore advice since I have absolutely no idea about this :)
[14:42] <Kalidarn> pptp is best avoided
[14:43] <Kalidarn> i believe there's a number of security concerns with that protocol
[14:44] <Kalidarn> you should be using something better like ipsec, openvpn or openconnect
[14:46] <Kalidarn> of: you can however use pptp in the dropdown box for networkmanager
[14:46] <Kalidarn> least i've seen the option there, haven't personally tried that type of VPN connection though
[15:01] <vollnut-3> hullo?
[15:02] <lordievader> Hey Vollnut-3, how are you?
[15:03] <Vollnut-3> nice, you?
[15:03] <lordievader> Vollnut-3: I can't complain :)
[15:03] <lordievader> Vollnut-3: Do you have a problem with Kubuntu?
[15:04] <Vollnut-3> no, i was just seeing how this program works, kinda new with Linux
[15:05] <Vollnut-3> didnt realize this was a support channel, shoulda read more carefully
[15:05] <lordievader> Vollnut-3: It's oke, no worries.
[15:05] <Vollnut-3> Yeah, thanks
[15:06] <Vollnut-3> Just a slow day here.
[15:08] <Vollnut-3> well thanks for the  welcome, ill be sure to come here if i need help. Thanks take care
[15:53] <Wizard> Yo ;)
[16:34] <martinjh99> GUys if 12.10 is out then there is no release files at cdimage.ubuntu.com only both Betas
[17:21] <Riddell> 12.10 candidate images needing testing now, join us in #kubuntu-devel
[17:27] <evll> just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 - went as smooth as possible. thank you guys
[17:28] <Peace-> evll: good
[17:29] <Riddell> evll: can you report that on iso.qa.ubuntu.com ?
[17:34] <evll> Riddell: unfortunately I do not see where I can do this on that site
[17:34] <Riddell> evll: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26094/testcases
[17:34] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26095/testcases
[17:35] <evll> I press login and see
[17:35] <evll>  Access denied
[17:35] <evll> You are not authorized to access this page.
[17:36] <evll> http://susepaste.org/90706424
[17:36] <evll> but I am logged in
[17:36] <evll> Complete the registration by filling out the form below. - this error message is misleading as well
[17:36] <evll> there is no form below
[17:36] <evll> as you can see from the sreenshot
[17:36] <Riddell> uh hmm dunno, time to give up I guess, thanks for trying
[17:37] <evll> :) np
[18:00] <danni> ok I partially have gotten this patch to work
[18:00] <danni> https://github.com/mmonaco/PKGBUILDs
[18:15] <brohan> I am having 2 issues with my system I am hoping for help with. #1 sometimes Java is detetected on websites and works, sometimes it is not, even on the same website. 2nd, is with video and ffmpeg. I can not watch video (I can hear audio) with Dragon player (I have no other player installed) it looks for gstreamer package, but can't install it
[18:16] <brohan> when I try to manually install, it needs various other packages that can not be installed, same if I just try to install ffmpeg package
[18:20] <genii-around> brohan: Please try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install phonon-backend-gstreamer
[18:21] <brohan> Will do, but I get a can't get lock message, even though I don't see any package programs open, update etc.
[18:22] <brohan> OH didn't put sudo in first
[18:23] <brohan> Here is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285576/
[18:24] <genii-around> brohan: For the java issue, can you pastebin result of: update-alternatives --list java
[18:25] <brohan> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[18:25] <brohan> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[18:25] <genii-around> !pastebin
[18:25] <shadeslayer> genii-around: I'd say 2 line pastes are acceptable :)
[18:25] <brohan> I had figured 2 was a limit
[18:26] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Yes, I was expecting more to come actually....
[18:26] <shadeslayer> as a general rule, I find 3 lines to be an acceptable limit
[18:26] <brohan> genii-around here is what is interesting. On a website I have to use a screencast recorder that is a plugin, that website says no Java detected. I go to the maker of the plugin screenr, and can record a screencast just fine, no error. HOWEVER if I go to the screenr get java page it says no java detected
[18:27] <brohan> even though on that same site it works fine. That baffles me (which baffling me in Linux doesn't take much)
[18:28] <shadeslayer> java is fun
[18:28] <brohan> I can go back to the ffmpeg issue (and dragon player) and post screenshots of what happens when trying to play a video and trying to rectify it
[18:28] <shadeslayer> brohan: what's the video type you're trying to play?
[18:28] <genii-around> work, afk 5-7 minutes, sorry
[18:28] <brohan> .mov. It says I need th h.264 decoder, no surprise there
[18:29] <shadeslayer> right
[18:29] <brohan> the surprise is when I try to get the recommeded package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[18:29] <shadeslayer> do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[18:29] <shadeslayer> mhmm?
[18:29] <brohan> package could not be initialized, config broken
[18:29] <shadeslayer> hmph
[18:30] <shadeslayer> could you pastebin the error?
[18:30] <brohan> yes the plugins-ugly is installed
[18:30] <brohan> the error comes in the form of screenshots, I will take and post sequencially
[18:31] <shadeslayer> well ... I just need the output of what happens when you try and install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[18:31] <brohan> I tried that from the package manager, not command line
[18:31] <brohan> how do I do it command line style?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> can you try via command line?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[18:32] <brohan> from GUI:
[18:32] <brohan> The "gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:
[18:32] <brohan> 	or libavformat53, but is not installable
[18:32] <brohan> 	or libavcodec53, but is not installable
[18:32] <FloodBotK1> brohan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <brohan> ok, 3 is the limit
[18:33] <brohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285605/ is the result
[18:34] <brohan> installing libavcodec53 give me the error it depends on libx264-120 but it is not installable
[18:35] <shadeslayer> what happens when you try and install  libx264-120
[18:35] <brohan> searching for libx264-120 in the package manager returns no results BUT I do have libx264-123 installed
[18:36] <shadeslayer> odd
[18:36] <shadeslayer> brohan: are you sure you have universe enabled?
[18:36] <brohan> universe?
[18:36] <shadeslayer> !find libx264-123
[18:36]  * shadeslayer doesn't see a libx264-123 on his precise install
[18:36] <shadeslayer> !find libx264-123 quantal
[18:37] <shadeslayer> uhhh
[18:37] <shadeslayer> brohan: are you on quantal?
[18:37] <brohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285611/
[18:37] <brohan> I believe so. I did a fresh install when it was BETA 1
[18:37] <shadeslayer> that was not for you :P
[18:38] <brohan> I had Ubuntu 12.04 giving me issues from too many desktop installs, so I wiped clean and installed fresh with Kubunutu 12.10 Beta 1 live cd
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Ideally libavformat53 should depend on  libx264-123
[18:39] <shadeslayer> also
[18:39] <shadeslayer> #ubuntu+1
[18:40] <brohan> try the beta channel?
[18:41] <brohan> or wait till tomorrow when it is fully released :-)
[18:41] <shadeslayer> please ask in #ubuntu+1 since Quantal isn't really released ;)
[18:41] <shadeslayer> plus, no way for me to help since I don't have a quantal system to debug
[18:42] <lordievader> Shouldn't Quantal be discussed in #ubuntu+1?
[18:43] <brohan> Okay. I will ask there. Same with my Java issues?
[18:43] <lordievader> Nvm I can't read...
[18:43] <brohan> Isn't the official release date of 12.10 tomorrow?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> dunno, can't really say anything about java
[18:43] <brohan> Okay.
[18:44] <shadeslayer> brohan: yes, and until then, you use #ubuntu+1 since it's not been released yet
[18:44] <brohan> I really do appreciate your help
[18:44] <brohan> okay
[18:44] <brohan> TTYL!
[18:45] <genii-around> Didn't go to +1 so probably we'll see them here tomorrow
[18:46] <Wizard> Java? +1?
[18:49] <shadeslayer> genii-around: heh yeah
[18:49] <shadeslayer> but I still won't have quantal, so still won't be able to help him :P
[18:50] <genii-around> Wizard: #ubuntu+1 which is the channel for 12.10
[18:50] <Wizard> :)
[18:51] <Wizard> Quantal panics on my powerbook, so I won't risk updating.
[18:51] <Wizard> LTS is fair enough.
[18:52] <lordievader> I'll just see when I'm going to upgrade, I think somewhere tommorow I'll update my desktop to see how it is, and later (perhaps) update my laptop.
[18:53] <Wizard> Tommorow is the issue date?
[18:53] <piotrn1> luckily there is weekend coming up, update on Saturday, fix it on Sunday :)
[18:53] <Wizard> :D
[18:53] <lordievader> Hehe
[18:54] <piotrn1> there are bound the be some issues... I'll wait with update for sure
[18:55] <lordievader> My desktop is just a machine to ssh into my server (where this irc client is running), so I don't really care if the update breaks the machine...
[18:56] <piotrn1> Well... I'm sure ssh will work... what I'm afraid about are: ati drivers, flash on x64, ect...
[18:57] <piotrn1> i have to reinstall anyway, since i'm on 32bit now, but need more ram...
[18:58] <Wizard> piotrn1: Ubuntu supports himem.
[18:58] <Wizard> At least works for me.
[18:58] <piotrn1> hmm
[18:58] <piotrn1> gota read about it
[18:59] <Wizard> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[19:00] <Wizard> :P
[19:00] <piotrn1> thanks
[19:00] <LordOfTime> there is a PAE limit, though, if you want something, like, 8GB of mem, go 64bit
[19:00] <LordOfTime> (just saying0
[19:00] <piotrn1> how about having graphisc drivers compiled against pae kernel / no problems there ?
[19:01] <piotrn1> 8gb is where i will go for sure, 16 if my motherboard can handle it../
[19:01] <piotrn1> sony says it cant, but gona check anyways..
[19:02] <Wizard> piotrn1: Dunno, i've never cared about gfx drivers.
[19:02] <LordOfTime> piotrn1, GFX usually work with PAE
[19:02] <piotrn1> Wizard: thanks anyways. :)
[19:02] <LordOfTime> if it doesn't file a kernel bug
[19:02] <piotrn1> LordOfTime: :) good to know, thanks
[19:02] <LordOfTime> the 32bit vs. 32bitPAE kernels arent too substantially different
[19:03] <LordOfTime> and drivers end up as part of the kernel eventually, so...
[19:03] <LordOfTime> *shurgs*
[19:03] <piotrn1> :)
[19:03] <LordOfTime> tbh...
[19:03] <LordOfTime> 95% of the stuff I do is CLI anyways
[19:03] <LordOfTime> so i don't *need* to have a GUI ;P
[19:04] <Wizard> And what about porn?
[19:04] <piotrn1> hehehe
[19:04] <piotrn1> asci graphisc :)
[19:04] <LordOfTime> um...
[19:04] <LordOfTime> i think that's  against the 'family friendly' atmosphere dude...
[19:04] <LordOfTime> *shrugs*
[19:04] <LordOfTime> not my call though
[19:05] <Wizard> Ok, sorry.
[19:05] <Wizard> I thought families should be aware of what pr0n is.  High loads as 12.10 nears completion.
[19:31] <danielle> danielle  : vervisch @ numericable,fr connectez-vous  sur  : http : // assistance ,numericable , fr / assistance_mail  et para mm
[19:32] <danielle> rechercc
[19:33] <danielle> recherche  motifes  de  noels
[19:33] <bazhang> !fr
[20:10] <oneadvent> ok, tomorrow 12.10 releases, should i move from 12.04 to it? what will be the advantages/disadvantages
[20:13] <Graf_Westerholt> oneadvent, you would get new versions of the software.
[20:13] <Wizard> And new bugs.
[20:13] <Graf_Westerholt> You can fix or report them. ;)
[20:14] <oneadvent> hmm
[20:14] <oneadvent> i'm wondering cause i'd be going from LTS to regular releases if there would be problems
[20:14] <oneadvent> i once had a bad upgrade and i think it was cause i had to do that
[20:14] <oneadvent> is there a list of the updated packages?
[20:15] <Wizard> You can check wiki.
[20:15] <Wizard> Technically, all packages in the system will be upgraded.
[20:16] <soee> 12.10 work perfect for me :)
[20:16] <oneadvent> well specifically i'm thinking of gimp, it is the only program i need updated, everything else is good to go at this point, no problems
[20:16] <Wizard> oneadvent: Have you checked backports?
[20:17] <Wizard> Maybe newer gimp is there.
[20:17] <oneadvent> hmm no, i'm not sure where to do that. i'm looking for the version that allows for single window mode
[20:17] <oneadvent> kinda not very important :P
[20:19] <dahlia> how do I share a folder with windows computers? I set user and password in the sharing panel in system settings but I cant find anything that lets me specify wihch folders to share
[20:19] <dahlia> Ive clicked all over dolphin but nothing there either
[20:20] <oneadvent> dahlia: i'm not sure if this is defaut, but on mine i can right click on the folder i want to share and then click properties and then share tab
[20:20] <dahlia> I right click and nothing happens
[20:21] <dahlia> oh I see I have to click the name, not the folder
[20:21] <oneadvent> you can right click on the folder but not on the + and -
[20:21] <oneadvent> so you know
[20:22] <dahlia> on dolphin?
[20:22] <oneadvent> yea
[20:22] <dahlia> hmmm
[20:22] <oneadvent> see how when you hover you get a green +
[20:22] <oneadvent> dont right click on that or it just turns to a -
[20:22] <dahlia> in list view?
[20:22] <oneadvent> it is used to select multiple folders
[20:22] <oneadvent> (or files)
[20:23] <oneadvent> oh i'm not sure, lemme look, i'm in icon view, medium sized
[20:23] <dahlia> oh I dont get anything when I hover
[20:23] <dahlia> tried icon view too
[20:23] <oneadvent> oh yea, you are in detailed mode and the plus does take up the whole icon
[20:23] <oneadvent> well whatever it works to do it on the folder name anyway :D
[20:24] <dahlia> ty
[20:25] <oneadvent> np good luck with windows side
[20:25] <dahlia> so I get a sharing tab but it only has a place to allow guest, not regular uwers
[20:25] <oneadvent> easiest way i've found is to just map it and use the name like: \\<IP_ADDRESS>\shareFolder
[20:25] <dahlia> *users
[20:25] <dahlia> I have windows side working
[20:25] <oneadvent> lol :P
[20:26] <dahlia> lol
[20:26] <oneadvent> the users should be listed under the Allow Guests
[20:26] <oneadvent> you dont have to allow guests you could use your own system users
[20:26] <dahlia> its all dark under allow guests
[20:26] <oneadvent> but you can use the drop downs right?
[20:26] <dahlia> hmmm
[20:27] <dahlia> nope drop down is disabled
[20:27] <dahlia> maybe somthing else is borked
[20:27] <oneadvent> i only ever just allow everyone, my network is just in my house so pretty insecure
[20:27] <oneadvent> can you not click those drop downs?
[20:27] <dahlia> nope greyed out
[20:27] <oneadvent> did you click the top box (share with samba)
[20:28] <oneadvent> above name there
[20:28] <oneadvent> i think that is what allows the rest of that box
[20:28] <dahlia> ok I see full control drop down now
[20:29] <dahlia> I think my theme may be making it difficult to see
[20:29]  * dahlia is legally blind and has UI use difficulties...
[20:29] <oneadvent> yea i know mine does...i work at night so i try and keep everything dark
[20:29] <serkan> Hi everybody.
[20:30] <oneadvent> hi
[20:30] <dahlia> YAY it works now, TYVM oneadvent :)
[20:30] <oneadvent> no prob dahlia glad you got it!
[20:37] <dahlia> hmmm it wont let me share my home folder
[20:39] <genii-around> Do you have samba installed?
[20:39] <dahlia> ya I can share subfolders but not my home folder
[20:41] <oneadvent> hmm maybe it is taking a while to do it all
[20:41] <oneadvent> i mean that would be much bigger than a subfolder
[20:41] <oneadvent> never tried to do the home folder but can't think of why you COULDN'T
[20:42] <dahlia> I used to share / which is what I really want
[20:42] <lordievader> oneadvent: Because it has it permission set to 600.
[20:43] <lordievader> Or 700...
[21:32] <oneadvent> lol i stepped away lordievader and dahlia, i am sure you can't share /, and really that isn't a great idea to do it. you would have to run samba as root and that would be bad bad
[22:37] <Ramtron> Hi, is there a command to re-install Java? Mine is messing up.
[22:43] <genii-around> Ramtron: Depends on what java you're using. But probably sudo apt-get install --reinstall openjdk-7-jre
[22:44] <Ramtron> darn can you say that again? i clicked clear instead of copy
[22:44] <Ramtron> second time today
[22:44] <Ramtron> just the command, if you will
[22:45] <genii-around> Ramtron: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall openjdk-7-jre      or put 6 instead of 7 there
[22:45] <Ramtron> Perfect, thank you
[22:50] <michaelc22> question for kuuntu is there any mac address changer program?
[22:53] <yofel> !info macchanger | michaelc22
[23:06] <bjrohan> I could use some help with 2 things, Java which is acting weird on the same website, and ffmpeg - video issue
[23:11] <SIR_Taco_> bjrohan: did you try #ubuntu+1 as was suggested to you earlier?
[23:16] <bjrohan> Yes, no answer
[23:16] <bjrohan> dead
[23:17] <julien__> a


[07:28] <stewart> hi! i'm having trouble fetching the public SSH keys for members of a group using launchpadlib. anyone able to give me a hand?
[07:33] <wgrant> stewart: What's the issue?
[07:33] <stewart> wgrant, I get nothing back for sshkeys.
[07:33] <stewart> let me paste the code...
[07:33] <wgrant> stewart: Ah, you'll need to authenticate.
[07:33] <stewart> wgrant, http://paste.drizzle.org/show/2111/
[07:33] <wgrant> Any user at all is OK
[07:34] <stewart> wgrant, I don't need to authenticate to curl it from launchpad.net/~user/+sshkeys
[07:34] <wgrant> Indeed, it's an API bug.
[07:35] <stewart> wgrant, i couldn't find anything documenting this, should i file a bug?
[07:36] <stewart> wgrant, (this is meant to run unattended)
[07:36] <wgrant> I can't see an existing bug, so please do file one.
[07:40] <stewart> wgrant, filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1014996
[07:42] <wgrant> stewart: Thanks, triaged.
[07:42] <stewart> gah.... and now python is out to get me: "When opening HTTPS URLs, it does not attempt to validate the server certificate. Use at your own risk!"
[07:42] <stewart> yay urllib for being dumb.
[07:43] <stewart> wgrant, here's a question, does launchpadlib connect over ssl?
[07:43] <wgrant> It does.
[07:43] <wgrant> It even verifies the cert.
[07:47] <stewart> wgrant, awesome. launchpadlib++ and urllib--
[07:48] <wgrant> urllib is terrible
[07:48] <wgrant> I don't think urllib2 is much better in this respsect.
[07:48] <wgrant> even httplib2 (which launchpadlib uses) didn't do it by default until recently.
[07:49] <wgrant> It's all pretty awful
[07:50] <stewart> wgrant, hrm... i'll look at httplib2. at the moment it looks like execing /usr/bin/curl is the simplest
[10:16] <alo21> hi all
[10:16] <alo21> can someone help me with branches, please?
[10:17] <alo21> I would like to know how to merge branches
[10:19] <czajkowski> jelmer: ^^
[10:20] <jelmer> hi alo21, czajkowski
[10:20] <alo21> jelmer: hi
[10:20] <jelmer> alo21: you can merge branches with the "bzr merge" command
[10:20] <jelmer> the mini tutorial has some basic examples:
[10:20] <jelmer> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/
[10:21] <alo21> jelmer: I have a personal branch an I would to merge it with this: fcm-it
[10:21] <alo21> jelmer: is bzr merge lp:fcm-it   the right command?
[10:22] <mgz> probably not, you need to describe at a higher level what you're actually trying to do.
[10:23] <alo21> mgz: what do you mean?
[10:23] <mgz> as in, describe exactly what you've done and what your goal is
[10:23] <mgz> so, you created a branch of... and changed something, and committed it?
[10:23] <mgz> you now want...
[10:24] <alo21> mgz: jelmer this is: (https://code.launchpad.net/~alo21/fcm-it/fcm-app) is the project branch
[10:24] <alo21> mgz: jelmer I would to merge my personal branch with the project one
[10:24] <jelmer> alo21: you would like to merge your personal branch into the project one, or the other way around?
[10:25] <jelmer> alo21: you want to clone the branch you want to merge into
[10:25] <jelmer> and then run "bzr merge lp:branch-you-want-to-merge && bzr ci -m merge"
[10:25] <alo21> jelmer:  I would like to merge my personal branch into the project one
[10:25] <jelmer> alo21: in that case, you should clone the project branch first
[10:26] <alo21> jelmer: bzr branch ..?
[10:26] <jelmer> alo21: yep
[10:27] <alo21> jelmer: in this example, should I tun bzr branch lp:fcm-it?
[10:28] <jelmer> alo21: yes
[10:28] <alo21> jelmer: ok... and then?
[10:29] <jelmer> alo21: bzr merge lp:~alo21/fcm-it/fcm-app
[10:30] <alo21> jelmer: should I fisrt con inside the folder with "cd fcm-it"?
[10:30] <alo21> con --> go
[10:45] <jelmer> alo21: yes, see the tutorial
[12:08] <rick_h_> jcsackett: ping, heads up review coming your way. Couple of things to chat about when you get a chance.
[12:09] <rick_h_> jcsackett: let me know if any of the fiddle's don't work/etc
[14:41] <LordOfTime> timeout: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.has_cve=on   |  OOPS-27635fde56ed0c378cb24ca465c69532
[15:02] <czajkowski> jono is giving a talk right now: getting started with launchpad http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/workshops/classroom/
[15:48] <abentley> gnuoy: Thanks for the deploy.  Could you please add the following rule to production: "jobs.celery.enabled_classes	default	0	BranchScanJob"
[15:49] <gnuoy> abentley, if you pop on LPS I'll do it now
[15:54] <abentley> flacoste: I would like to add a feature flag to production to enable celery branch scan jobs.  "jobs.celery.enabled_classes default 0 BranchScanJob"  Do you approve?
[15:56] <flacoste> abentley: +1000
[15:56] <czajkowski> heh
[15:59] <abentley> gnuoy: On LPS now;.
[15:59] <gnuoy> thanks
[16:01] <gnuoy> abentley, what should I put as the comment to go with the rule?
[16:02] <abentley> gnuoy: "Enabled branch scans via Celery"
[16:02] <gnuoy> abentley, done
[16:04] <abentley> gnuoy, flacoste: quick test seems to be working.
[16:05] <flacoste> great!
[16:57] <bodhi_zazen> How do people submit translations ?
[16:58] <czajkowski> bodhi_zazen: for which area ?
[16:58] <bodhi_zazen> https://translations.launchpad.net/~display-dhammapada
[16:59] <bodhi_zazen> I have someone who wishes to submit a German Translation
[17:01] <czajkowski> dpm_: would you know where to find this as not seeing it
[17:01] <czajkowski> not seeing it set up
[17:02] <bodhi_zazen> I found this page: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations
[17:02] <bodhi_zazen> Are there translations of that page or a "short version" for people submitting translations ?
[17:03] <czajkowski> no the page is not translated.
[17:03] <czajkowski> they should possibly read https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/ImportPolicy
[17:04] <czajkowski> bodhi_zazen: the best bet would be to read and get them to join https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/launchpad-translators
[17:04] <czajkowski> as they deal with all LP translations
[17:17] <LordOfTime> if i have a subteam that is listed as "Administrators" for a parent team, do I need to readd the people in the subteam to the parent team?
[17:17] <LordOfTime> or is the inheritence of administrator power on that parent team perpetual
[17:23] <dobey> anyone in the subteam will have administrator rights on the team it is a subteam of
[17:23] <dobey> if you make the team an administrator
[17:26] <LordOfTime> that's what i thought, i wanted to make sure
[17:26] <LordOfTime> so as long as someone exists in that sub team, and that sub team is listed as an administrator, those users do not need to be "administrators" on the parent team, because administrator powers on that team are inherited.  thanks.  :)
[18:17] <LordOfTime> for translations, does a code branch need to first exist for a code import request?
[18:18] <LordOfTime> or am i misunderstanding import requests
[18:26] <LordOfTime> actually i'll read the translations help docs
[18:52] <smoser> quick question...
[18:53] <LordOfTime> ask it?
[18:53] <smoser> in order for 2 people to share the ability to push to a bzr branch on launchpad they need to be in a group, right?
[18:53] <smoser> ie, if i wanta short lived group for myself and one other person... i have to create a launchpad group
[18:54] <lifeless> yes
[18:54] <lifeless> or you have to share an ssh key
[18:54] <lifeless> on e.g. a service account
[18:54] <lifeless> a group is better
[18:54] <smoser> re ssh key: no thank you :)
[18:54] <smoser> yeah, group is fine.
[22:33] <rmk> Hi. Having trouble adding a PPA dependency.  Getting an "Oops" page.
[22:34] <rmk> Both PPAs are private.
[22:34] <StevenK> Link the OOPS?
[22:34] <rmk> (Error ID: OOPS-47d4dbf219ad56c80e3ec6b0dc3104fd)
[22:37] <StevenK> That's very strange.
[22:37] <StevenK> rmk: I guess the PPA you're going to add has no description?
[22:38] <rmk> Checking
[22:38] <wgrant> Wow, that is an odd one.
[22:38] <rmk> Yeah no description.
[22:38] <StevenK> Yeah, it looks like 'if description is not None:' is utter crack.
[22:39] <wgrant> I think it's not no description
[22:39] <wgrant> It's an *empty* description
[22:39] <wgrant> ''
[22:39] <StevenK> There's a difference?
[22:39] <rmk> I'm just adding a description to sort this.
[22:39] <wgrant> StevenK: None vs ''
[22:39] <wgrant> I think there's a bug on this
[22:39] <StevenK> rmk: That will workaround it, yes.
[22:40] <rmk> Yeah worked now.
[22:40] <wgrant> rmk: It was set at some point, but then cleared later on
[22:41] <StevenK> wgrant: So I guess is not None or != ''
[22:41] <wgrant> StevenK: 'if description:'
[22:41] <StevenK> Hah
[22:41] <StevenK> A bug fixed by that pattern


[15:09] <tsimonq2> jbicha: Interesting.
[15:09] <tsimonq2> Okay, so re: https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-powermanagement/pull/382 - I think Standreas makes a good point about the status notification.
[15:09] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Pull 382 in lxqt/lxqt-powermanagement "Show a notification when the battery is present, not absent" [Open]
[15:10] <tsimonq2> I'm going to finish my cleanup, probably separate some stuff into a separate, private function, and then try to address the status icon the best I can.
[15:10] <tsimonq2> At this point it would be reasonable to expect this to land next cycle.
[15:10] <tsimonq2> If anyone has an RC bug that I don't know about, speak up and I'll table this.
[15:10]  * tsimonq2 tries to find a "Known Issues" page cc @guiverc
[15:52] <tsimonq2> I pushed a follow-up commit to the above merge proposal doing some code cleanup, to remove duplication.
[15:52] <tsimonq2> Depending on what I'm feeling in the next hour, I'll probably look at the tray icon after lunch.
[18:18] <tsimonq2> I have a pretty rough local diff but I didn't get much sleep last night - afk for now.
 Also, the above PR is ready to be burned with fire :P