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[16:42]  * jussi hugs h00k
[17:27] <tsimpson> !no ru is <reply> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[17:36] <guntbert> hi, I'm here to "defend" my !noX proposal
[17:37] <IdleOne> hehe
[17:37] <IdleOne> guntbert: I was just think a link to a wiki that explains start to finish how that is done for newbies to be able to do it would be good
[17:37] <IdleOne> thinking*
[17:38] <guntbert> IdleOne: that would certainly be good, but I'm afraid there is no such page, and newbies usually don't want to start text only anyway
[17:39] <IdleOne> What I mean is it may not be obvious to a new user how to get to the kernel line in the grub menu.
[17:40] <guntbert> IdleOne: ack, how about !noX is <reply> To start your system in text mode only (no gdm, no X) append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing <shift> during boot.
[17:40] <IdleOne> there ya go
[17:40] <IdleOne> now wait for someone with access to add it
[17:41] <IdleOne> tsimpson: perhaps ^^
[17:41] <guntbert> ok, but there is no need for me to idle here in the meantime - thx for your ongoing support
[17:41] <tsimpson> I'd *really* prefer a wiki page for that, and some people do still have the "old" grub
[17:42] <tsimpson> also, why not use the "recovery mode" option?
[17:42] <IdleOne> guntbert: perhaps you can add a section to the !grub2 wiki
[17:43] <IdleOne> when the section is added then maybe add a !noX alias
[17:43] <tsimpson> avoid using "gdm" too, say something like "the login manager" to be more generic and less technical
[17:44] <guntbert> tsimpson: 1) can we have it as a hint for the helpers in the meantime? 2) because it will work in /etc/default/grub too and we sometimes want a full but text only system
[17:45] <guntbert> avoiding "gdm" is fine
[17:45] <tsimpson> /etc/default/grub is for grub2 right? what about those who've upgraded?
[17:46] <IdleOne> still using the old grub
[17:46] <guntbert> IdleOne: I'm a bit pressed for time, and writing articles is not something I do very well, so I'd like to not edit the wiki :-)
[17:46] <IdleOne> guntbert: if you look at the wiki, you will see that it doesn't have to be Shakespear :)
[17:47] <IdleOne> and you can take your time to edit the wiki.
[17:48] <guntbert> ok, how about that: just add the factoid now and I'll edit the wiki and then we change the factoid (I've seen questions "how can I start without X" nearly every day)
[17:48] <guntbert> promised, I'll edit it
[17:49] <tsimpson> it'd need to be be applicable to both grubs
[17:50] <guntbert> tsimpson: ack, I'll check on that and return later
[17:51] <tsimpson> !nox is <reply> To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot.
[17:51] <tsimpson> but plz to fix later ^ :)
[17:51] <guntbert> promised :-)
[17:52] <guntbert> bye for now
[19:55] <guntbert> Hi, its me again :-)
[19:55] <ikonia> hello
[19:55] <guntbert> upon looking into the wiki for the promised edit I fond that the !grub2 factoid points to a page whuch has NOTE: A more recent version of the information on this page can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  .
[19:56] <guntbert> on it as first line - 2 questions arise: should the factoid be changed? where should I make the edit for booting into text mode
[20:00] <guntbert> ?
[20:02] <guntbert> oh my god, *that* happens when I try to type fast : s/fond/found/;  s/whuch/which/
[20:07] <Flannel> Hmm, yeah, that factoid should be changed.  No idea why the grub2 folks were using wiki.ubuntu.com for that anyway
[20:08] <guntbert> Flannel: so we go with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ?
[20:08] <Flannel> guntbert: From a quick cursory glance, looks like all/most of the information from the wiki page is on help, so pretend the wiki page doesn't exist
[20:08] <Flannel> guntbert: Yeah, per wiki
[20:09] <guntbert> Flannel: ok, thx
[23:22] <h00k> jussi: all I do is cause problems. You've found me out.
[23:27] <h00k> ikonia: that works, too.
[23:28] <ikonia> asking for #991 numbers, omg, ranting about americans, I'm yet to see a line of help
[23:28] <h00k> yep.
[23:28] <h00k> s/991/911
[23:28] <h00k> /
[23:28] <ikonia> yes
[23:29] <ikonia> and he's doing the same in #backtrack-linux
[23:29] <h00k> fantastic.
[23:29] <ikonia> so I think we can take it his intentions where not "help"
[23:30] <ikonia> he's back
[23:31] <ikonia> I'm speaking to him in pm
[23:31] <h00k> who'se that, val or hiexpo?
[23:32] <ikonia> val
[23:33] <ikonia> what a surprise it was an #archlinux-offtopic guy posting the stupid flash links
[23:34] <Valkyrie> I'd like to report an unfairban/false claims
[23:34] <Valkyrie> I'll post the screenshots.
[23:34] <ikonia> please do
[23:35] <Valkyrie> http://i45.tinypic.com/fz5729.jpg
[23:35] <ikonia> yes ?
[23:35] <ikonia> and ?
[23:36] <h00k> ikonia++;
[23:37] <Valkyrie> Sorry.  Was the answer.
[23:39] <Valkyrie> Comma, not period
[23:39] <Valkyrie> xD Sorry
[23:40] <h00k> Valkyrie: the purpose of that channel isn't to make people laugh or post offtopic .swfs in the channel. It's quite easily hilighted in the /topic of the channel.
[23:42] <h00k> Valkyrie: do you have any more business here?
[23:43] <h00k> Valkyrie: If you don't, take a look at the !guidelines I had ubottu link you
[23:44] <h00k> Valkyrie: also, /part the channel and feel free to stop back in 24 hours to discuss your ban.
[23:45]  * h00k shrugs