[02:05] <dragon_> has anyone monitor settings problems lately?
[02:07] <dragon_> I have a black band about a centimeter or so on top of the screen and the blue wallpaper with a jellyfish is sort of not stretch all the way out
[02:08] <dragon_> I have tried all the settings for monitor, and the one fitting best is 1280x800
[02:09] <dragon_> I am in lubuntu 22.04,  not yet upgraded for the october edition
[02:10] <dragon_> the cursor moves all the way across the blacked out ban on top above the wallpaper
[02:12] <cartdrige> Try different resolution, try to put a flat color background instead of a wallpaper to see if it does the same, select another wallpaper and check the setting to fit-to-screen then later to zoom-to-fit see if it changes, if it's a display bug, try a live distribution of another OS/distrib to see.
[02:17] <dragon_> I have tried all the resolutions under config center
[02:18] <dragon_> and it is fit the screen, or rather, stretch to screen works best, still the line on top
[02:18] <cartdrige> It may be a hardware/driver bug then.
[02:18] <cartdrige> i'd try another USB ubuntu or Windows.
[02:19] <dragon_> has LXQT had updates lately?
[02:21] <dragon_> thanks for the tip, I shall have to fix a usb of another distro
[02:27] <dragon_> is the resolution in lubuntu very simplified?
[02:31] <guiverc> dragon_, I'm not aware of any updates for 22.04; though you can use a later LXQt by adding lubuntu backports PPA.
[02:31] <dragon_> I shall try and updgrade to 22.10
[02:32] <dragon_> Upgrade manager will only do the regular upgrades, not distro
[02:42] <dragon_> the bootup screen is just fine ?
[02:45] <dragon_> should  I just go for ubuntu?
[02:46] <dragon_> I mostly chose lubuntu for the simple and easy desktop environment
[02:47] <dragon_> I don`t get the 22.10 update suggestion, and I have tagged off for normal releases, not just longterm?
[02:48] <dragon_> can this still be launched in terminal?
[02:49] <dragon_> I just went sudo do-relase-upgrade. will in upgrade lubuntu. or ubuntu?
[02:50] <dragon_> a bit scary
[03:20] <dragon_> I am now in 22.10
[03:20] <dragon_> not sure why I did it, longterm was fine really
[03:21] <dragon_> the black band on top turned out to be a panel?
[03:21] <dragon_> so issue sorted out
[13:40] <dragon_> after upgrade to 22.10 yesterday, the screen or monitor goes dormant very quickly. The entire settings manager is new, and I can`t find any options for the dormant intervals?
[13:55] <dragon_> I have searched for options under LXQt settings, monitor settings, session setting?
[13:56] <dragon_> when I right click on the desktop, there is an option for Desktop preferances, nothing there
[14:00] <dragon_> I probably should have kept the old desktop manager, it was an option in the upgrader
[14:01] <dragon_> The simplest thing just became a problem?
[15:42] <dragon_> sunday is probably not the best day for support?
[16:29] <dragon_> lost connection
[17:32] <dragon_> I have spent quite a bit of time on the new monitor settings, where are they?
[18:00] <arraybolt3> dragon_: Can't you find them by searching for "Monitor" in the application menu?
[18:01] <arraybolt3> If not, run "sudo apt update", then "sudo apt full-upgrade", then "sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop", and see if that fixes it. Maybe you accidentally uninstalled whatever component has the monitor settings.
[18:20] <dragon_> I might have, I just pressed "Y" everytime on the upgrade, but it looked right at the time
[18:22] <dragon_> I know there was a question on keeping the old monitor settings application, or install the new, I installed by presseing "Y" with out further investigation
[18:24] <dragon_> I ran your list of commands, and everything seems to be done already
[18:25] <dragon_> This has to be a flaw of some kind, but I would not expect it to be missed after beta version
[18:28] <dragon_> I get the the same monitior settings, very simple no option for setting time interval or dormant modes, menue-preferances-lxqt settings-monitor settings-
[18:28] <dragon_> it was different before
[18:29] <dragon_> IT might be a very simple thing I am missing too
[18:30] <dragon_> in some operative systems, the dormant settings are under power management
[18:33] <dragon_> there was something there, under "idle", and the icon or function was nearly blanked out
[18:33] <dragon_> so lets see
[23:18] <dragon_> I can honestly say, the new monitor manager is worse than the old
[23:18] <dragon_> or rather, the dormant options in power manager
[23:19] <dragon_> I hope they work on the new one a bit, and add a bit more options


[00:08] <sebastian_> hi all. I've installed 15.10 on a Acer Aspire V15 Nito. seems to work well in general. except for two missing drivers + a wired ipv6 issue
[00:09] <sebastian_> missing drivers are my nvidia card + wifi (not critical, as I can use the intel driver / use a cable)
[00:10] <sebastian_> anyway. the bad thing is super slow mixed ipv5+ipv6 name resolution.
[00:11] <sebastian_> getaddrinfo takes 20 seconds for every host that is accesable via ipv4 and ipv6. this also affects programs like sudo
[00:11] <sebastian_> any idea where I can get in deph help?
[01:24] <BlueProtoman> Does anyone mind looking at this AskUbuntu question?  It's about adding custom context menu items in KDE 5, which I can't seem to figure out how to do.  http://askubuntu.com/q/719262/61195
[02:15] <MichaelP> What ever stage of development 16.04 is in right now... It seems pretty nice
[02:28] <tambu> Is there a way to hide user accounts from showing up in the KDE Login page? I have a bunch of application accounts that I prefer didn't show up?
[02:34] <mparillo> MichaelP: I am running it now
[02:35] <MichaelP> mparillo: only problem i have. chromium opens slows
[02:36] <mparillo> For me it opens fine, but it seems to scroll slowly. Rekonq is still generally the fastest for me, but I fear it is pining for the Fjords.
[02:38] <MichaelP> I have not installed rekong yet
[02:38] <MichaelP> Everything else seems faster then in 15.10
[02:38] <mparillo> tambu: It looks as if there is a users section in https://www.mankier.com/5/sddm.conf
[02:39] <tambu> mparillo: ooh hrm that looks promising thank you
[02:39] <mparillo> YW
[03:10] <tambu_> mparillo: where is your sddm.conf located? it wasn't in /etc/sddm.conf so I created it but it doesn't seem to have an impact when I do "systemctl restart sddm"
[03:30] <mparillo> Hmm, Dolphin found it for me there. I will try the konsole. What version are you running?
[03:31] <mparillo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1564 Dec 23 20:07 sddm.conf
[03:32] <tambu_> mparillo I figured it out.. I did the HideShells option which is more useful I thought.. but i had /sbin/nologin when it should have been /usr/sbin/nologin
[03:32] <mparillo> I am on Xenial, testing Plasma 5.5.3
[03:32] <tambu_> mparillo Thanks for the help!
[03:32] <mparillo> Ahh, well then you are more advanced than I am.
[03:33] <tambu_> mparillo not sure about more advanced.. more like stupid for trying to find the more complex solution :) how is 5.5.3 do you have to update manually to get to it? I'm on 5.4.2
[03:40] <mparillo> I get some frequent plasma crashes, and muon got out of sorts, and I did have to remove some icons from my kicker favorites and re-add them, but I am fine, more or less. Right now, I: expect tomorrow or Monday there will be a call for testers on #kubuntu-devel
[03:40] <mparillo> For me, the biggest improvement is that I got my spell check back on Konversation.
[03:41] <Chronotoss> Ohh there's spell check?
[03:43] <mparillo> If you right click on the entry line.
[03:43] <Chronotoss> Found it, perfect!
[03:43] <Chronotoss> It's the little things.  And good night to all.
[04:39] <anna`> hopefully the Linode DDoS's are over and i won't keep losing connection 8)
[10:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:42] <sebokie> hello, I just installed kubuntu and was before on gentoo, can I compile my own kernel using the .config file from Gentoo kernel and use it in Kubuntu? it was a kernel made so that all needed drivers are compiled in kernel and it is booted directly from UEFI bootloader (no initrd or grub)
[11:42] <sebokie> with systemd
[11:44] <soee> sebokie: better ask on #ubuntu
[11:44] <sebokie> soee: ok
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:45] <Notimik> hi all any one having problem with kubuntu opening konsole on wrong monitor ( not the one that it was closed in) ?
[17:18] <emanuel_> hello
[17:19] <tower> @echo. hello
[17:20] <emanuel_> i have a quick question if anyone can help
[17:20] <tower> dont ask to ask, just ask and wait
[17:20] <emanuel_> lol ok
[17:21] <emanuel_> how come when i use dd it wont burn the kubuntu correctly
[17:22] <emanuel_> unetbootin isnt any good either tried that to
[17:22] <tower> emanuel_: srry, im new here, so just wait for someone else
[17:23] <emanuel_> in theory it should work fine
[17:23] <emanuel_> its okay dude i appreciate you trying
[17:29] <tower> emanuel_: seems weird, isnt it, 260 users in channel, but only 2 talking
[17:30] <emanuel_> lol yea i find its like that most of the time
[17:34] <ash___> Hi all. I am using Kubuntu 15.04. I am facing a problem with extracting .tar files. The error is : tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors.
[17:34] <ash___> Is there any archiver that could help me with extracting .tar files?
[17:34] <austin6598> Try right clicking on in and extract
[17:35] <austin6598> It*
[17:35] <ash___> Doesn't work.
[17:35] <emanuel_> i use tar -xvf or as im on gnome i use file roller
[17:35] <ash___> That's why I tried extracting it from the terminal
[17:36] <ash___> to see what the error is
[17:37] <demon> ciao
[17:37] <demon> !list
[17:37] <emanuel_> you can try tar -zxvf
[17:38] <ash___> @emanuel I used the same
[17:38] <uebera||> ash___: Try tar -xvf ... >/dev/null on the command line; if I'm not mistaken, all you're left with are the error messages.
[17:38] <austin6598> emanuel_: what is dd?
[17:39] <emanuel_> dd is command line utility to burn iso's to usb
[17:39] <austin6598> ash___: "You will get that message if, for any reason, tar can't add all of the specified files to the tar. One if the most common is not having read permission on one of the files."
[17:39] <tower> ubottu: !shutdown
[17:40] <tower> !q
[17:40] <emanuel_> maybe the archive is corrupt
[17:40] <uebera||> emanuel_: most people don't consider that "burning" since it does not involve a cd/dvd/bluray ;) ("dd - convert and copy a file")
[17:41]  * tower * Added *!*ubottu@ubuntu/bot/ubottu to ignore list
[17:41] <austin6598> emanuel_: what OS are you trying to make a kubuntu usb on?
[17:42] <emanuel_> Debian Jessie
[17:42] <ash___> emanuel : maybe
[17:42] <austin6598> also instead of just saying "it didnt work correctly" or "there was a problem" everyone should get used to providing the actual outcome of what you tried
[17:42] <austin6598> emanuel_: check its file permissions
[17:44] <emanuel_> i always run dd as sudo and i use fdisk -l to find the name of my usb so im thinkin its a issue with kubuntu
[17:44] <austin6598> try on another OS and if that doesnt work its probably just corrupt
[17:44] <austin6598> what is it anyway?
[17:45] <austin6598> emanuel_: http://www.wobzip.org/
[17:45] <emanuel_> ive done succesfully with three other operating systems
[17:46] <emanuel_> it
[17:46] <emanuel_> sorry
[17:46] <emanuel_> and unetbootin destroys stuff
[17:48] <austin6598> emanuel_: whoops all those messages were meant for ash
[17:49] <emanuel_> its ok dude
[18:14] <break3r> hey everybody - I can't find a solution via google, sorry. I am running kubuntu wily witz kde-konversation. I am trying to set up an encryption key for a channel, where I am writing with some friends. As far as I read it SHOULD be possible to do that, but it's not working (Bug 798036). Is that the case or did I misunderstand anything?
[18:16] <break3r> Does anyone know how to solve this issue and can maybe send me a link I didn't find?
[18:20] <austin6598> break3r: try #kde
[18:21] <break3r> k, thx
[18:31] <lordievader> Hmm, what to do when grub is lying to you? I have a dualboot with two logical volumes wily-lv and xenial-lv, however grub only detects one lv. Even though both names show up. For example: if made on the xenial-lv, a Ubuntu and a Ubuntu (on wily-lv) are in the grub menu, but both boot of xenial-lv.
[18:32] <austin6598> lordievader: install grubcustomizer
[18:32] <lordievader> I'd like to stay away from writing custom grub configs.
[18:33] <lordievader> Unless I can get a stucture where the right kernels are selected.
[18:37] <austin6598> Im not entirely sure what your problem is because of the way you phrased it lordievader
[18:38] <lordievader> Hmm, I see. Well I have a dual boot, but grub only makes config for one side basically.
[18:38] <lordievader> Two versions of Kubuntu on different logical volumes.
[18:38] <emanuel_> have you tried grub-update
[18:39] <lordievader> Grub makes two entries, say, 'Ubuntu' and 'Ubuntu (on wily-lv)'. However as root both have xenial-lv set.
[18:40] <austin6598> so you use grub customizer to change where it boots to. how did you plan to do this without changing grub config files?
[18:40] <lordievader> So I am wondering why grub does detect the name of the logical volume but does not set it as the root.
[18:41] <lordievader> The problem is not really with the config but in the way grub detects the other installations.
[18:41] <frederic__> hi all
[18:41] <austin6598> its booting into one of them as root?
[18:42] <lordievader> Hold on, I'll pastebin my grub.cfg
[18:42] <lordievader> austin6598: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14461109
[18:42] <austin6598> you still havent told me what your problem is
[18:43] <lordievader> austin6598: That is what I am trying to do ;)
[18:43] <austin6598> so you have two grub menus that boot to the same partition?
[18:43] <lordievader> austin6598: Compare entry line 132-148 with entry 295-306.
[18:44] <lordievader> The names suggest two different root fs'es, but the parameters are the same.
[18:44] <lordievader> I want to find out why.
[18:46] <austin6598> why should they be different lordievader
[18:47] <lordievader> austin6598: Because there are two installs, One should boot to xenial-lv the other to wily-lv. Now both entries boot to xenial-lv.
[18:49] <austin6598> one says dev/mapper/ebon--hawk--vg-xenial and the other /dev/mapper/ebon--hawk--vg-wily
[18:49] <lordievader> In the name, not in the actual parameter that gets passed to the kernel ;)
[18:49] <austin6598> lordievader: what line is that?
[18:50] <lordievader> xenial: 146, what should be wily: 304.
[18:50] <austin6598> set root='hd0,msdos1'?
[18:50] <lordievader> That is for grub itself ;)
[18:51] <austin6598> in grubcustomizer you can change the boot location of that menu
[18:51] <Dragnslcr> Maybe try running grub2-mkconfig again and see what it outputs
[18:51] <lordievader> Sure, but I want the 30_os_probe to pick that up itself.
[18:52] <lordievader> I mean if it is able to pick up the right name (os-prober functions correctly), why not set the right root.
[18:52] <Dragnslcr> If it outputs the same thing, it kind of looks like a bug in mkconfig
[18:52] <lordievader> It does look like a bug to me.
[18:53] <lordievader> Ah, the linux-boot-prober seems to error.
[18:54] <lordievader> Would it append the current cmdline?
[18:54] <Dragnslcr> Unless there's something weird in one of the other config files. I think mkconfig pulls stuff from something under /etc too.
[18:57] <lordievader> Dragnslcr: Where in /etc?
[18:59] <Dragnslcr> I can't remember offhand. I think it's /etc/sysconfig in Redhat
[18:59] <Dragnslcr> Maybe Ubuntu doesn't do it that way
[19:01] <lordievader> No, that file doesn't exist.
[19:01] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I checked
[19:19] <emanuel_> any thoughts on my situation with dd
[19:24] <lordievader> Interesting, it reads the old /boot/grub/grub.cfg for the config if available.
[19:26] <lordievader> emanuel_: Since I am missing backlog, what dd problems?
[19:40] <emanuel_> when i use dd to write my kubuntu iso to my usb its not bootable
[19:41] <lordievader> What is the output of 'sudo parted /dev/<usb>'?
[19:49] <lordievader> I found my problem, the boot probes parse the grub.cfg, and since they share /boot, the script detects the other rootfs. Having a decoy boot fixed it.


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[12:36] <meetingology> Motion carried
[12:36] <HakanS> #vote Kan vi 3?
[12:36] <meetingology> Please vote on: Kan vi 3?
[12:36] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[12:36] <HakanS> -1
[12:36] <meetingology> -1 received from HakanS
[12:36] <HakanS> #endvote
[12:36] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Kan vi 3?
[12:36] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0
[12:36] <meetingology> Motion denied
[12:36] <HakanS> #vote Kan vi 4?
[12:36] <meetingology> Please vote on: Kan vi 4?
[12:36] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[12:36] <HakanS> -1
[12:36] <meetingology> -1 received from HakanS
[12:36] <HakanS> #vote Kan vi 5?
[12:37] <meetingology> Voting still open on: Kan vi 4?
[12:37] <HakanS> 0
[12:37] <meetingology> 0 received from HakanS
[12:37] <HakanS> #endvote
[12:37] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Kan vi 4?
[12:37] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[12:37] <meetingology> Deadlock
[12:37] <HakanS> #endvote
[12:37] <meetingology> No vote in progress
[12:38] <HakanS> #endmeeting
[12:38] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Feb  3 12:38:23 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)
[12:38] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-se-mote/2011/ubuntu-se-mote.2011-02-03-12.35.moin.txt


[00:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [source] (impish-proposed) [27.4.2~21.10.1]
[00:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [source] (hirsute-proposed) [27.4.2~21.04.1]
[00:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [source] (bionic-proposed) [27.4.2~18.04.1]
[00:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [source] (focal-proposed) [27.4.2~20.04.1]
[00:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [27.4.2~16.04.1]
[03:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added oem-sutton.newell-carl-meta to canonical-oem-metapackages in bionic
[03:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added oem-sutton.newell-carleton-meta to canonical-oem-metapackages in bionic
[03:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added oem-sutton.newell-carl-meta to canonical-oem-metapackages in focal
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[04:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added oem-sutton.newell-carlisle-meta to canonical-oem-metapackages in focal
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[04:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added oem-sutton.newell-cable-meta to canonical-oem-metapackages in bionic
[04:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: oem-sutton.newell-carl-meta (focal-proposed/primary) [20.04~ubuntu1]
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[04:58] <tjaalton> RAOF: btw there's a quick mesa review for focal pending, one patch to add amd beige goby support, folks can't wait for the impish backport
[04:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added oem-sutton.newell-aaden-meta to canonical-oem-metapackages in focal
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[04:59] <RAOF> Sorry, amd beige?
[04:59] <tjaalton> and the US folks are out giving thanks, so.. :)
[04:59] <tjaalton> new gpu
[04:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: oem-sutton.simon-carrie-meta (focal-proposed/primary) [20.04~ubuntu2]
[04:59] <tjaalton> beige goby
[05:00] <RAOF> Weird, but ok :)(
[05:00] <tjaalton> the previous one was yellow carp :)
[05:01] <RAOF> I probably wouldn't name any of my stuff after the colour associated with blandness, but whatever :)
[05:01] <tjaalton> they like fish ;)
[05:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mesa [source] (focal-proposed) [21.0.3-0ubuntu0.3~20.04.5]
[05:10] <tjaalton> RAOF: many thanks!
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[11:46] <ricotz> hello :), please accept libreoffice 1:7.2.3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1951738
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openssl [source] (impish-proposed) [1.1.1l-1ubuntu1.1]
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openssl [source] (hirsute-proposed) [1.1.1j-1ubuntu3.6]
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openssl [source] (focal-proposed) [1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.10]
[13:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openssl [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.14]
[14:55] <LocutusOfBorg> ubuntu-archive, please remove node-tap/12.0.1+ds-4 from jammy-proposed, so I can rebuild node-tap-parser and copy it back once it publishes
[14:56] <LocutusOfBorg> there is a circular dependency, the tap-parser wants a node-tap that is satisfied already in release, but can't due to the one in proposed waiting for it
[14:56] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, ^^ please?
[15:22] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, why would that be an issue, it hasn't built; so why would node-tap-parser not just use the one in -release?
[15:23] <LocutusOfBorg>  sbuild-build-depends-node-tap-parser-dummy : Depends: node-tap (>= 8) but it is not installable
[15:23]  * LocutusOfBorg tries in chroot
[15:24] <LocutusOfBorg> damn
[15:24] <LocutusOfBorg>  node-js-yaml : Breaks: node-tap (< 12.0.1+ds-4~) but 12.0.1+ds-3 is to be installed
[15:24] <LocutusOfBorg>  node-tap : Depends: node-tap-parser (>= 7.0.0) but it is not installable
[15:24] <LocutusOfBorg>  node-tap-mocha-reporter : Depends: node-tap-parser but it is not installable
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libotf [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/main) [0.9.16-3] (ubuntu-desktop)
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[17:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libotf [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/main) [0.9.16-3] (ubuntu-desktop)
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: evolution-data-server (impish-proposed/main) [3.40.4-1 => 3.40.4-1ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: evolution (impish-proposed/universe) [3.40.4-1 => 3.40.4-1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-mate, ubuntukylin)
[23:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: php-lua [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [2.0.7+1.1.0-10] (no packageset)
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[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: php-mongodb [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.11.1+1.9.2+1.7.5-4] (no packageset)
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[23:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: php-amqp [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.11.0~rc1+1.10.2-2] (no packageset)
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[00:10] <bluesabre> knome, pong
[07:38] <flocculant> ochosi: nope - will have a look later today
[07:40] <flocculant> question - is git://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar master and now will have the other 2 patches in it - so I only need grab the one from 12260?
[07:55] <ochosi> flocculant: yup
[07:56] <flocculant> ochosi: ok - thanks :)
[07:57] <flocculant> I'll bash that to sodom and gomorrah later then - maybe we can get that in too if it works well :)
[08:01] <ochosi> :)
[08:01] <ochosi> thanks
[10:30] <knome> bluesabre, well that was late...
[10:32] <knome> bluesabre, but i guess the question was if we are allowing lock on live systems, and whether we should look into not doing that
[10:32] <bluesabre> knome, I believe we disable it
[10:33] <knome> then it was likely a bug a person was experiencing yesterday
[10:44] <Unit193> bluesabre: In xubuntu-live-settings, it's supposed to.
[10:44] <bluesabre> right
[10:45] <bluesabre> light-locker is still installed live, and could theoretically be launched
[12:13] <flocculant> it for sure can - I test that when we're having cyclical lock issues
[12:21] <flocculant> ftr - the ubuntu live doesn't lock
[14:52] <ali1234> hmm.. that new thunar patch looks very good to me
[14:53] <ali1234> looks like exactly the kind of race condition i'd expect to cause random crashes
[14:55] <ochosi> ali1234: if you wanna review another upcoming patch, there's one on the move-crash bug
[14:56] <ali1234> that's the one i mean, i think
[14:56] <ali1234> the one posted two days ago
[14:56] <ali1234> going to write a comment
[18:02] <flocculant> ochosi: not seeing anything happen I wouldn't expect
[18:02] <flocculant> Unit193: not seeing crash with gtkhash installed
[19:11] <flocculant> ochosi: commented
[19:29] <ochosi> flocculant: awesome sauce. i'll push that one too
[19:31] <flocculant> ochosi: guessing so - it's working here - and it's not made things worse :)
[19:31] <ochosi> can you send another email for testers?
[19:32] <ochosi> then i can maybe to a thunar release with this patch on the weekend
[19:32] <ochosi> and we can get to SRUing
[19:33] <flocculant> ochosi: to test with master + the newest patch?
[19:33] <ochosi> yup
[19:33] <ochosi> to see whether all move crashes are resolved
[19:33] <ochosi> are there any other open bugs on your side?
[19:34] <ochosi> or is it stable now?
[19:34] <flocculant> seems stable here
[19:34] <flocculant> I'm a bit confused as to why master + patch(es) doesn't crash with gtkhash like the ppa one?
[19:35] <flocculant> but rather unwilling to confuse the issue too much :)
[19:37] <ochosi> good idea ;)
[19:38] <ochosi> especially if it resolves more bugs than advertised!
[19:38] <flocculant> :)
[19:38] <ochosi> or maybe Unit193 can update the ppa with this patch
[19:38] <ochosi> bbabl
[19:38] <flocculant> k
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[20:07] <flocculant> ochosi: mail away
[21:10] <ochosi> flocculant: thanks a bunch!
[21:17] <flocculant> ochosi: if you've not seen it yet - pointed responses to 12260
[21:18] <ochosi> yup
[21:18] <ochosi> much better because direct
[21:18] <flocculant> yea
[21:19] <flocculant> once this has all worked it's way through - I'll be interested to see th egtk3 thunar :p
[21:20] <ochosi> haha
[21:21]  * flocculant has never really taken much notice of xfce bugs and patches and things - not sure why
[21:21] <ochosi> it all just was too stable for too long ;)
[21:22] <flocculant> lol
[21:22] <flocculant> then thunar ...
[21:24] <ochosi> actually it's a mix of thunar and glib
[21:24] <ochosi> but anyhow, i think we'll get through this
[21:24] <flocculant> well yea - but I noticed thunar going splat :p
[21:25] <flocculant> perhaps I'll get more involved with xfce qa
[21:26] <ochosi> that'd be awesome
[21:26] <knome> hooray
[21:26] <ochosi> then i need to give you edit rights in bugzilla though
[21:26] <knome> haha
[21:26] <ochosi> most components need a serious bug cleanup
[21:26] <flocculant> except you'd see me whine in more than 1 place ;)
[21:26] <ochosi> lol
[21:26] <ochosi> i've cleaned up the bugzillas for some components, but it just doesn't last very long
[21:27] <flocculant> I did once look at a bug list there and start working through which were dead - then I was much the same and stopped :p
[21:27] <Unit193> ochosi: In place of current ones?
[21:28] <ochosi> Unit193: i guess master+the move patch
[21:28] <ochosi> do we carry a lot moreß
[21:28] <ochosi> ?
[21:28] <Unit193> The two we were trying.
[21:29] <Unit193> Ah, the email answers that. :)
[21:31] <flocculant> Unit193: I'm still befuddled by the gtkhash thing :)
[21:32] <Unit193> flocculant: Indeed, but luckily we don't care about that. :D
[21:32] <flocculant> if the ppa becomes master plus this latest patch - I'll try again :D
[21:32] <flocculant> nope - just odd
[21:32] <Unit193> I was just going to stack the next one.
[21:33] <flocculant> should that not be the same though
[21:37] <Unit193> I'd have to boot the VM and get everything setup for getting a distcheck from thunar though. :3
[21:41] <Unit193> flocculant: Unless you want to enter the thunar git souce dir and run  make distcheck  giving me the resulting tar? :3
[21:46] <flocculant> what thunar git source dir?
[21:46] <flocculant> the one I've got here?
[21:47] <flocculant> Unit193: ^^
[21:47] <ochosi> Unit193: we really need a jenkins to do that...
[21:47] <Unit193> flocculant: Yep.
[21:47] <ochosi> jenkins with some docker nodes that build the crap out of those packages and deploy to launchpad
[21:47] <flocculant> ochosi: oh no = that jenkins word
[21:47] <flocculant> Unit193: I can - with the patch?
[21:48] <Unit193> flocculant: Likely better without, but not too picky.
[21:51] <flocculant> Unit193: likely called Thunar-1.6.10git-35e65ab.tar.bz2 ?
[21:51] <Unit193> Yep.
[21:52] <flocculant> not very big - but sent
[21:53] <flocculant> Unit193: give me an e-mail it doesn't get bounced from :p
[21:54] <flocculant> This message was blocked because its content presents a potential 552-5.7.0 security issue.
[21:55] <Unit193> Hah, niice.
[21:55] <Unit193> That one should work.
[21:56] <flocculant> k
[21:57] <Unit193> Got it. danke.
[21:58] <flocculant> welcome
[21:58] <flocculant> Unit193: was without patch btw
[22:04]  * flocculant wanders off now
[22:29] <Unit193> ochosi: Oh, there ye go.
[22:40] <ochosi> ty
[23:07] <Unit193> Oh good, Sean is here to save you.
[23:09]  * bluesabre is struggling to save himself
[23:10] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=thunar new test thunar version, though you couldn't even crash the last. :P
[23:11] <bluesabre> oh boy new thunar
[23:16] <bluesabre> most promising version so far
[23:16] <bluesabre> renames without dying *and* without losing which file it was just looking at
[23:17] <bluesabre> I approve
[23:33]  * Unit193 dputs it to Ubuntu, git snapshot and all! :P
[23:34] <Unit193> I also spoke to Corsac, warned him and wondered if he'd be able to get an unblock on it.
[23:41] <Unit193> I figure we'll want the ristretto, xfce4-terminal, and xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin (GTK2) updates in.
[23:42] <bluesabre> Yes indeed
[23:42] <bluesabre> and thanks for reaching out to Corsac
[23:43] <Unit193> (Debian is in freeze now, pretty much like our FF except they don't default-allow, you have to file an unblock for the migration to happen.)
[23:43] <bluesabre> right
[23:43] <bluesabre> in the case of Thunar though, definitely worthwhile
[23:44] <Unit193> +1


[00:58] <schmitt9531> I was wondering if you could help me out with the qemu-kvm setup. I'm trying to help my friend with his ubuntu hypervisor. He currently has libvirt running to implement qemu-system
[00:58] <schmitt9531> I connected to qemu:///session it did not work, when I did qemu+ssh I got access denied, added myself to libvirtd, it worked but I got qemu system access
[00:58] <schmitt9531> instead of qemu session
[00:59] <schmitt9531> and it gave me access to qemu system which has root privs
[00:59] <schmitt9531> how do I properly use qemu usermode?
[00:59] <schmitt9531> or is that not supported in ubuntu
[02:09] <bearly230> Hello, all I have what I hope is an easy fix question. I have a centos server with a group made, and users added to the group.  But my ubuntu 12.04 desktop clients can't access the folder over nfs. Any sugestions?
[02:18] <bearly230> Hello, all I have what I hope is an easy fix question. I have a centos server with a group made, and users added to the group.  But my ubuntu 12.04 desktop clients can't access the folder over nfs. Any sugestions?
[02:42] <patdk-lap> enable group usage on nfs
[09:09] <smoser> lifeless, dhcp
[10:34] <orogor> hi
[10:34] <orogor> may anyone helps me with checking the trip size chunk size and whatever for ext4 over lvm2 over an mdadm raid10 array?
[10:35] <hallyn> stgraber: so fwtw my problem turned out to be with upstart's mounted-dev.conf.  It calls /sbin/MAKEDEV console which recreates /dev/{console,ttyN}.  That needs to not happen in a container.
[10:59] <hallyn> oh, nope, guess that actually comes from mountall
[11:36] <koolhead17> lynxman, hey
[11:37] <lynxman> koolhead17: hello
[11:37] <koolhead17> lynxman, where are you?
[11:37] <lynxman> koolhead17: London
[11:38] <koolhead17> lynxman, not in UDS
[11:38] <lynxman> koolhead17: nope
[11:39] <roaksoax> SpamapS: any examples of a subordinate charm?
[12:56] <SpamapS> roaksoax: one example of a subordinate is nrpe
[14:34] <iggi_> Anyone here familiar with open-iscsi and mounting drives on boot? I have my startup to automatic yet my boot still hangs where it is waiting for the iscsi drive. I am able to go to the server and manually skip the waiting and it will boot where I can manually log into the NAS.
[14:34] <iggi_> I just want it to connect at startup
[14:35] <iggi_> and I would like to disable the waiting screen since I can't get into the system remotely
[15:01] <jpds> Anyone know why aftering upgrading my KVM host to 12.10, a 12.04 guest running cobbler can't give out DHCP addresses? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1315428/
[15:11] <fidel_> anyone used to 3ware raid controllers? i am using a 9650SE-12ML on a freshlyinstalled 12.04 - 64bit. i executed the installer from the code-set-iso and selected cli & webinterface. tw_cli works to aks the controller status - but the webinterface seems NOT to be accessible at all on http/https & default port 888. Any ideas? or any other place you would recommend to ask?
[15:13] <fidel_> btw: netstat shows nothing with port 888
[15:15] <ewook> fidel_: long time ago I fiddled with 3ware cards, but the web gui was broken back then as well ;).
[15:15] <fidel_> ewook: hehe
[15:15] <fidel_> ewook: it worked for me in 10.04 days
[15:16] <fidel_> so it should be possible to get it working ...at least ;)
[15:16] <fidel_> bloody 3ware/lsi stuff
[15:17] <RoyK> fidel_: I've used 3ware controllers with linux for a decade or so, but never tried that webinterface...
[15:17] <fidel_> RoyK: so you stick to tw_cli only or the bios as well?
[15:17] <RoyK> not yet tried with 12.04 either...
[15:17] <RoyK> yeah, it works
[15:18] <RoyK> tw_cli with nagios/icinga plugin is good
[15:18] <fidel_> sounds great ;)
[15:18] <RoyK> but then, I guess I'll stick to software raid on future servers
[15:18] <fidel_> but well - as it worked in the past i am pretty sure one of the team is "in need" for the web-ui ;)
[15:18] <udsslayer> I don't suppose anyone who is at UDS could help me setup a guest VM with a public IP?
[15:19] <fidel_> apart from that: i know the rest works - i would like to get the webinterface working as well
[15:19] <RoyK> fidel_: they don't need it unless you tell them there is one ;)
[15:19] <fidel_> RoyK: it worked in the past - they used it .... doomed ;)
[15:20] <RoyK> well, setup icinga for monitoring and they'll have an even fancier webinterface for monitoring far more than just the raid controller ;)
[15:21] <fidel_> thanks for the tips - but i am not asking for workarounds or other solutions. basically i would at least test for some more time if its possible to get the webinterface working
[15:21] <fidel_> sidenotwe: we are running nagios here ;)
[15:21] <fidel_> so - close to icinga
[15:22] <RoyK> I used to run nagios, but nothing much has happened to that codebase for, what, 5 years?
[15:22] <fidel_> pretty silent around nagios yep
[15:22] <RoyK> Ethan chose to move to Nagios IV, being commercial
[15:23] <RoyK> the Icinga people have rewritten quite a lot over the last 2-3 years
[15:23] <RoyK> nagios config files are still compatible, though
[16:11] <edve> anyon knows a good alternative to landscape ?
[16:13] <RoyK> edve: for what use? landscape has a few different uses (or a lot)
[16:13] <skipp3r> hi all, i want to send the output of a script under /etc/cron.daily/ to /dev/null, can i define the sdout inside the script? or how cna i send the sdout just of this script to /dev/null ?
[16:13] <edve> Monitoring , getting updated easily for some none linux user
[16:14] <RoyK> skipp3r: just create a wrapper script and run "yourscript > /dev/null"
[16:14] <RoyK> skipp3r: perhaps with "2>&1" if you want to get rid of stderr as well
[16:15] <RoyK> edve: for monitoring, there are several systems to choose from, for updating easily from outside the console or terminal, I don't know any, but it's easy to cron that part
[16:15] <RoyK> !monitoring
[16:15] <skipp3r> RoyK: the script is under /etc/cron.daily/ where are more scripts, i want to change the output just for a specific one
[16:15] <RoyK> !icinga
[16:16] <RoyK> !nagios
[16:16] <RoyK> stupid bot
[16:17] <RoyK> skipp3r: just move that script to /usr/local/sbin or something and create a wrapper script in /etc/cron.daily
[16:17] <RoyK> skipp3r: or modify the script to let the parts that create output redirect their output to /dev/null
[16:18] <skipp3r> RoyK: how can i modify it? can i somehow inside the script redirect the output to /dev/null ?
[16:19] <RoyK> skipp3r: editor /path/to/script
[16:19] <RoyK> it's just a script!
[16:20] <skipp3r> RoyK: yes, i mean i should just add >/dev/null inside the script? is that enough?
[16:20] <RoyK> just find the noisy parts and add >/dev/null to them
[16:21] <skipp3r> RoyK: ok i will try that, thanks!
[16:21] <recon_lap> bit stuck trying to use sendmail , keep getting this error Oct 29 16:18:37 xxx-Aspire-V3-571 sendmail[5892]: My unqualified host name (xxx-Aspire-V3-571) unknown; sleeping for retry, just what it for testing a web site account verification system on my local machine. anyone able to give a hint what i need to configure?
[16:21] <RoyK> if they write to stderr, which is normal for errors, add 2>&1 after >/dev/null to redirect file 2 (stderr) to file 1 (stdout)
[16:21] <RoyK> recon_lap: erm - do people use sendmail anymore? ;)
[16:21]  * RoyK sticks to postfix
[16:22] <RoyK> some people like exim as well
[16:23] <recon_lap> RoyK: I'm using it through SMTP from a web server for email address verification. not sure how postfix/exim relate to this
[16:23] <RoyK> if you don't have a personal preference for sendmail, I'd recommend using postfix (or perhaps exim, but I don't know that too well)
[16:25] <recon_lap> RoyK: it's just a development system, I just want it to work so i can test some code. not going to be uses as a production mail server, but I'll have a look at postfix
[16:26] <RoyK> postfix is generally easier to configure for most stuff
[16:26] <RoyK> unless you're a sendmail wiz, I'd recommend switching
[16:26] <recon_lap> RoyK: lol, no whiz, it's just whats installed by default
[16:27] <RoyK> I don't think sendmail has been installed by default
[16:27] <RoyK> probably exim
[16:27] <RoyK> dpkg -l | grep sendmail
[16:34] <recon_lap> RoyK: thx, I'm looking into it :)
[16:35] <recon_lap> the bit I don't get is entering a FQDN(fully qualified domain name), I don't have one as far as i know, just using localhost.
[16:36] <IdleOne> RoyK: if you are inclined to write up a nice wiki howto page on wiki.ubuntu.com for icinga we can write a factoid pointing to it.
[16:36] <recon_lap> should I just use my host name?
[16:37] <RoyK> IdleOne: ok
[16:37] <IdleOne> Cool :)
[17:18] <bubu\a> hi guys - I want to use logrotate. Whats the difference in putting in an entry in /etc/logrotate.conf
[17:18] <bubu\a> or creating a specific conf in /etc/logrotate.d/?
[17:19] <bubu\a> i want to rotate hourly...
[17:58] <sean-lee> hi
[18:40] <xsl> hello all ... i have a LXC/APPARMOR/INITSCRIPTS problem
[18:41] <xsl> I want to use the funcionality of autostart a container wen its linked in /etc/lxc/auto but i get this error in syslog .. and the container does not start
[18:41] <xsl> Helena Soares 17:23:38
[18:41] <xsl> não será juntamente com o salário, mas será este mês
[18:41] <xsl> NunoSeita 17:31:00
[18:41] <xsl> juntamente ker dizer o quê? não é no "recibo" ou não é no mesmo dia?
[18:41] <xsl> oops
[18:41] <xsl> wrong paste
[18:41] <xsl>  /shame
[18:42] <xsl> type=1400 audit(1351535408.081:10): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed type match" error=-13 parent=1384 profile="/usr/bin/lxc-start" name="/proc/" pid=1416 comm="lxc-start" fstype="proc" srcname="proc" flags="rw"
[18:43] <xsl> i tried uncomenting in /var/lib/lxc/<container_name>/config the string lxc.aa_profile = unconfined
[18:43] <xsl> but with no luck
[18:55] <Phibs> is there any way to change to 1000HZ vs 100 in the kernel ?
[20:00] <stiv2k> hello
[20:00] <stiv2k> i have a /dev/sdb mounted as my /home tree on my server and lately it keeps alerting me that /dev/sdb will be fsck'ed on next reboot. so I rebooted it but it still says /dev/sdb need to be fsck'ed. what do i do?
[20:11] <maxb> What's alerting you? the motd when you log in?
[20:13] <stiv2k> maxb yes
[20:14] <stiv2k> and in dmesg
[20:14] <stiv2k> [   16.744800] EXT4-fs (sdb): warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
[20:15] <maxb> OK. Check at reboot is controlled by a field in /etc/fstab. You could either ensure that's not zero, and reboot, and see if it checks then, or you could unmount sdb and check it separately whilst the rest of the machine stays up
[20:15] <stiv2k> maxb, it has my /home tree, so i dont think i can unmount it right
[20:16] <maxb> You'd need to ensure no normal users were logged in before you could unmount it
[20:16] <stiv2k> lol
[20:16] <stiv2k> sounds like a catch 22
[20:16] <maxb> Though you could be logged in as root or as another user specifically created with a home outside /hoem/
[20:16] <stiv2k> ill probably just do the first method
[20:17] <maxb> Find the line of your /etc/fstab that refers to /dev/sdb and paste it here?
[20:17] <stiv2k> ok
[20:17] <stiv2k> maxb, i made it really simple
[20:17] <stiv2k> UUID=66aa7d2b-2805-47a3-9f18-2b8d2ace60a2 /home         ext4
[20:18] <maxb> hm is there no more? there should be more fields after that
[20:18] <stiv2k> i never added any
[20:19] <stiv2k> it just worked so i left it like that :S
[20:21] <maxb> stiv2k: After the ext4 add                          defaults   0  2
[20:22] <stiv2k> whats the 2 for?
[20:22] <maxb> Not having a number in the sixth field probably is why it didn't get checked
[20:22] <maxb> 2 is for check this, but do it after the root file system (which should have number 1 there)
[20:23] <maxb> 'man fstab' for more in-depth discussion
[20:23] <stiv2k> ah ok
[20:23] <stiv2k> now just reboot?
[20:24] <maxb> Just to double-check, the entire fstab line should now look like:
[20:24] <maxb> UUID=66aa7d2b-2805-47a3-9f18-2b8d2ace60a2 /home         ext4   defaults   0  2
[20:24] <maxb> At which point, yes, rebooting ought to cause the drive to be checked
[20:24] <stiv2k> sweet
[20:29] <orogor> hi
[20:34] <briggz> Hey guys, anyone here a server admin professionally?
[20:35] <briggz> I'm looking for final project ideas for my intro to linux class.
[20:35] <orogor> <=
[20:35] <briggz> server specific area to study that would be useful for future admins.
[20:36] <orogor> san ?
[20:36] <orogor> if you have access to the hardware
[20:36] <briggz> what's san?
[20:36] <orogor> storage area network or something like that
[20:36] <orogor> storage attached n...thing
[20:37] <orogor> zonning fiber  san switch , stuff like that
[20:38] <bbhoss> Anyone have issues with runit not sending signals to the correct process when you use chpst? It seems like it is sending the signals to the chpst process instead of the process chpst runs
[20:38] <briggz> oh, looking more for software server side.
[20:38] <orogor> never had the courses at univeristy, you need to have like 10k€ just to make a single setup that not everyone will play with
[20:38] <briggz> like we're doing samba stuff now.
[20:39] <orogor> you want software only course?
[20:39] <briggz> it's not a hardware focused course.
[20:39] <briggz> it's linux operating systems
[20:40] <orogor> software raid + lvm  is also usefull , and they need to grasp the lvm concept
[20:40] <briggz> like I installed unbuntu-server
[20:40] <orogor> and you can do the course with commodity hardware
[20:42] <briggz> Im one of the 'they' I'm a student looking for ideas on my final project that I get to pick. I asked my teacher for ideas, he said look at a list of things that might benefit a career.
[20:42] <orogor> how long the projet is?
[20:45] <briggz> I've got 8 weeks to do it
[20:45] <briggz> we need to select a topic and start this week.
[20:45] <briggz> plus it needs to be approved.
[20:51] <orogor> sorry had to reboot to fix boot sequence :)
[20:51] <briggz> that's ok
[20:52] <orogor> so , how long?
[20:52] <briggz> I have 8 weeks
[20:53] <briggz>  to compete
[20:53] <orogor> gotta be networked or be usefull in any way ?
[20:54] <orogor> like setup nfs/samba shares for roaming profiles for students would be nice maybe
[20:54] <briggz> it's got to be something that has to focus on server and/networks and more specifically Linux
[20:54] <briggz> wer
[20:54] <orogor> no ?
[20:54] <briggz> we're already doing samba this week
[20:54] <orogor> like wherever you login your desktops and my document folder is always the same
[20:55] <briggz> well, we're setting it up and playing with it
[20:56] <marsje> my friend just upgraded from ubuntu server 10.04 to 12.04 and now it seems his dns settings are wrong... how can I see what is the current dns-server? how can I change it?
[20:56] <orogor> boot a computer and get it automagically installed
[20:56] <briggz> no specific tasks in it, something might come up in the coming weeks. but as of right now, we're making windows and our servers see each other, share, etc..
[20:56] <orogor> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[20:58] <orogor> virtualisation is also good to play with if you never tried it
[20:58] <briggz> done that. =)
[20:58] <briggz> I have my actual ubuntu server, my windows machine, and 4 virtual linux boxes on it.
[20:58] <xsl> guys i need help with LXC/Apparmor ( get this error message: type=1400 audit(1351535408.081:10): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed type match" error=-13 parent=1384 profile="/usr/bin/lxc-s
[20:58] <xsl> tart" name="/proc/" pid=1416 comm="lxc-start" fstype="proc" srcname="proc" flags="rw")
[20:59] <briggz> they're even seprate networks.
[20:59] <briggz> is there something specific in security that you might think would be good to know more in depth?
[20:59] <xsl> i tryed commenting out the line lxc.aa_profile in /var/lib/lxc/container_a/config with no luck
[21:01] <orogor> roles base access c..thing  rbac
[21:01] <orogor> see apparmor
[21:01] <orogor> nobody ever use configure this kinds of stuff however
[21:02] <xsl> i didnt wanted to disable the profile, i been searching but i dont quite get it how to configure that "mount"
[21:02] <orogor> but it s  the only real way i ve found to get a secure system
[21:02] <xsl> they just disable ? ... lack of security feature imo ... right?
[21:03] <orogor> basically you start apparmor in profiling mode , run the system and makes it do all thge stuff it usually does
[21:03] <orogor> then put the profile in enforce mode , and after that it can only do the things it could do while in profile mode
[21:04] <xsl> and then i commit the changes
[21:04] <xsl> yeah i see where your going to
[21:04] <orogor> xsl,  not speaking to you :)
[21:04] <xsl> its easyer than writing myself the profile
[21:04] <orogor> but you might learn as well
[21:04] <xsl> your not? ... but seems like the solution to my problem
[21:04] <orogor> xsl,  yhea  it maybe it
[21:05] <orogor> xsl, in fact afterward you slightly edit the profile and put * in some places , like for a cookie folder
[21:06] <orogor> else it wouldn t be able to create cookie-zer3zer41ze5rzer4.txt  if this wasn t created during the profiling step
[21:06] <orogor> but then that s only if you re creating your own profiles
[21:07] <orogor> else it may means you re encountering a bug of some kind that you should report , or need an update cause it s already fixed
[21:08] <orogor> xsl, ?
[21:08] <orogor> :msg nickserv hi
[21:08] <xsl> i have just a plain install of precise 12.04
[21:09] <xsl> created my lxc container of a lvm
[21:09] <xsl> at it gives me that error above wen i reboot the server and the container should start automaticaly
[21:10] <xsl> im trying to boot the container manually in debug mode ... takes alot of time imho
[21:11] <orogor> humm bug is marked as solved, odd
[21:11] <orogor> stupid question , why not try another virualisation solution ?
[21:12] <xsl> my goal is not rly virtualization
[21:12] <xsl> its more like the jails in freebsd feeling i want
[21:12] <orogor> chroot ?
[21:12] <xsl> chroot not that good as lxc imo
[21:12] <xsl> cannot define mem limits and such
[21:12] <orogor> you want really a loot of differt process in their own containers?
[21:13] <orogor> a lot of
[21:13] <xsl> 1 container just for mysql 1 container just for php 1 container just nginx
[21:13] <xsl> something like that
[21:13] <orogor> would be me it d all go ina  single vm
[21:14] <xsl> call me paranoid :D
[21:14] <orogor> and not a chroot or jail , but a  full vm
[21:14] <orogor> so your desktop upgrade won t break your carefully crafed vm config for php and nginx
[21:15] <orogor> and you can snapshoot and rollback dureing devellopement
[21:15] <xsl> its a server
[21:15] <xsl> and i can snapshot LVM
[21:15] <orogor> not the same thing
[21:18] <orogor> well anyhow if you know lxc use that, and fix the apparmor issue
[21:18] <orogor> if it s single process completely isolated it s  not that bad to turn off apparmor i guess
[21:19] <orogor> else report the bug to ubuntu or fix it yourself by doing the profile and enforcing it
[21:20] <xsl> i think its an initscripts problem
[21:20] <xsl> i can start the container manually
[21:20] <xsl> only the startup of the server fails
[21:33] <briggz> orogor:  I think I have a idea of my topic.
[21:33] <briggz> thanks for the help
[22:13] <Zer0Glitch> Good day, folks
[22:16] <Zer0Glitch> Can anyone recommend ideal RAID build for small apache/sql server?
[22:16] <Zer0Glitch> I'm thinking of using 6x 120GB SSDs
[22:16] <Zer0Glitch> (128)
[22:20] <Zer0Glitch> Anyone registering this?
[22:22] <Zer0Glitch> Jesus Christ, people. If you're going to occupy space in a help and discussion-focused chat room quit running bots/AFK and respond to inquiries or logout
[22:23] <jeremydei> well, i was gonna say.. 6xssd's sounds pretty screamin fast .. that's all i got sry :)
[22:26] <Zer0Glitch> Looks better in this: http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1156&ID=2031
[22:26] <Zer0Glitch> Running in one of these: http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=2149&pid=8
[22:29] <bbhoss> Zer0Glitch: sounds like overkill. Also, nginx > apache
[22:31] <Zer0Glitch> Hoss > Sounds like overkill, but I'm going to be running high IOPS because I'll be hosting a high-visitation site off of it. Combination of Wordpress & custom CRM. I'll have a larger fibre-channel rackmount for the media storage.
[22:32] <Zer0Glitch> Low latency, high uptime
[22:32] <Zer0Glitch> I want to minimize my maintenance and chances for hardware failure, so SSDs make sense
[22:34] <Zer0Glitch> So again, anyone have any suggestions on primary raid setup for server? I was thinking Raid5
[22:35] <patdk-lap> hmm? raid5 is low iops and high latency
[22:35] <Zer0Glitch> First time raiding a server. Hence the question
[22:35] <Zer0Glitch> <-- clearly needs assistance
[22:36] <Zer0Glitch> I've been running off my home server and run into problems. Now making move to upgrade and need recommendations.
[22:36] <patdk-lap> http://bytepile.com/raid_class.php
[22:37] <patdk-lap> generally, you use raid10 for everything, except if it's for streaming workloads, then raid6
[22:37] <patdk-lap> but high iops is normally always going be a raid10 config
[22:38] <Zer0Glitch> Why Raid6 for streaming? A big part of the content is podcasts, but I'm moving it to Torrented distribution - first download originating at my site. Not streaming.
[22:38] <Zer0Glitch> Secondary distribution P2P
[22:39] <patdk-lap> as it sounds like podcasts and torrents should be streaming, they defently are not
[22:39] <patdk-lap> atleast when your user count is >4
[22:39] <patdk-lap> torrent is inherently designed to be random
[22:40] <Zer0Glitch> I'm getting 10K hits/mo
[22:40] <patdk-lap> raid6 is only better for streaming, cause you gain extra space really
[22:41] <patdk-lap> where the performance of raid6 and raid10 could be close, just raid6 assumes your moving large amount of data per transaction
[22:41] <patdk-lap> and raid10 doesn't make that assumption
[22:41] <patdk-lap> raid5 is the same, just it's inherently unsafe, expecially the larger disks get
[23:04] <jbrowne> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/query2 appears to be throwing 404s.  I know the existing format is to be deprecated, but the new format (from the announcement) is supposed to still live at that URL (per the examples).  Did I miss another announcement, or has it just broken as a part of releasing the latest refreshed Precise cloud images from last week?
[23:20] <blendedbychris> anyone decent at troubleshooting snmpd?
[23:40] <pmatulis> !ask | blendedbychris