[12:01] <dtygel> raintheory: good question. Where do I check this?
[12:01] <dtygel> raintheory: you mean a jumper in motherboard?
[12:01] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: look under the heading for 64bit
[12:01] <javanick> Hello everyone! I have installed wine, but it does not recognize my swedish keyboard. Since I'm a newbie, I don't know where i set this. Can anyone please help me?
[12:01] <jaggz-> I didn't see the cdrom problem... what is it?
[12:01] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: actually, that is just for the plugin. One sec
[12:02] <spiderworm> raintheory: sorry, what are you referring to?
[12:02] <raintheory> dtygel, on the back of the CD-ROM drive itself
[12:02] <spiderworm> raintheory: my headphones problem?
[12:02] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: it appears to mention just above on what to do
[12:02] <raintheory> spiderworm,   sorry wrong person..   :P
[12:02] <spiderworm> ah k
[12:02] <DexterF> KristeK: what's the problem? you got no client on your desktop or ne daemon on your server?
[12:02] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:03] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: yes
[12:03] <KristeK> no daemon on my server!
[12:03] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: then it should be there
[12:03] <KristeK> i've tried sudo apt-get install amule
[12:03] <KristeK> but aparentely does nothing
[12:03] <dtygel> raintheory: I think it's ok: I put it as secondary master
[12:03] <DexterF> KristeK: amuled is not in the package?
[12:04] <dtygel> raintheory: you mean the jumpers for setting if master and slave, isn't it?
[12:04] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: could you pastebin the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache search java?
[12:04] <KristeK> I need a step by step installation... can you pvt me?
[12:04] <wimpies> Any IPTables users that use --icmp-type ? It seems no longer supported or am I missing some config option ?
[12:04] <DexterF> KristeK: hell no :P see the wiki on amule.org on how to install step by step. or utsl.
[12:04] <raintheory> dtygel, yes...   how many CD drives do you have in there?
[12:05] <phanter> hey there.. a short question. Which filesystem was it again that allows to appear like one but actually excisting out of multiple hard disks?
[12:05] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ARzpKR36.html
[12:06] <dtygel> raintheory: only one. It boots, comes to the first screen. Then when I press enter, it goes and hang in the following line: "checking if image is initram..."
[12:06] <mcphail> phanter: i assume you are thinking of LVM
[12:06] <willys_fueguino> Hi!, Im on edgy and I have this error: Xlib; extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0 but I use xorg!, any ideas?
[12:06] <phanter> mcphail: that is exsactly waht I  mean.. thanks, I just could not remember it now :)
[12:06] <mcphail> :)
[12:07] <^Ocean^> okay, i seen to have 2 kernel drivers insatalled nvidiax and nvidiay  by default ubuntu is loading nvidiax but i want to remove that so it loads nvidiay instead
[12:07] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: have you done sudo apt-get update after changing your sources.list?
[12:08] <raintheory> dtygel,   hmm...
[12:08] <willys_fueguino> Hi!, Im on edgy and I have this error: Xlib; extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0 but I use xorg!, any ideas?
[12:09] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: when do you get that error?
[12:09] <raintheory> dtygel,   LiveCD?
[12:09] <apokryphos> not necessarily a problem, as there's still some modules/parts/whatever of Xorg with xfree names, I know
[12:09] <willys_fueguino> apokryphos, Every time I make an glxgears, glxinfom fglrxinfo, etc
[12:10] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: and do they run properly?
[12:10] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: yes, but I can try again
[12:10] <apokryphos> good idea
[12:10] <whyso> how do i access direcrories with spaces in them via the shell?
[12:10] <dtygel> raintheory: live CD
[12:10] <willys_fueguino> apokryphos, yeap.
[12:10] <apokryphos> I wouldn't really worry about it then
[12:10] <jvai> is bastille needed for dapper's security? any1?
[12:11] <mcdonaldswes> whyso: you can use "\" before a space
[12:11] <apokryphos> whyso: either escape the space by prefixing it with a backslash, or use quotes for the name
[12:11] <dtygel> raintheory: I think it's something in bios not recognizing the cdrom... I really don't know. I don't know how to discover it
[12:11] <apokryphos> i.e. cd "some directory"
[12:11] <mcdonaldswes> whyso: but sometimes, it's easiest to use a regex to capture the dir name
[12:11] <cappe_> whyso: use tab-extensions..
[12:11] <dtygel> to diagnose it
[12:11] <whyso> ah ok thanks (being a programmer i should have thought of that :) )
[12:11] <mcdonaldswes> whyso: or rely on tab complete..
[12:12] <whyso> it would be REALLY cool if someone made a shell with rubytype syntax!
[12:12] <apokryphos> heh
[12:12] <apokryphos> what's really cool is fish :D
[12:12] <apokryphos> !info fish
[12:12] <ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.0-1 (dapper), package size 355 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[12:13] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: no dice
[12:13] <whyso> ah ty
[12:13] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: so I *should* be able to get it, right? (i.e. this isn't common to every Ubuntu 64-bit install)
[12:13] <raintheory> dtygel,   do you _need_ it to be the actual LiveCD?      If not, you could try the alternate iso
[12:14] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: I'm quite sure, yes. One sec.
[12:14] <cheesy> hi
[12:14] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: on the link provided, also, there are clearly amd64 debs
[12:14] <dtygel> raintheory: the problem is that it hangs before anything happens: still when loading root to ram image
[12:14] <Stormx2> Whats the best way of getting a PID from a process name?
[12:15] <dtygel> raintheory: linux doesn't boot, simply that
[12:15] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: you've *definitely* done a sudo apt-get update (which doesn't produce any errors), and then a apt-cache search java|grep sun??
[12:15] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: which link?
[12:15] <hitman> hello
[12:15] <apokryphos> Stormx2: pidof
[12:15] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: the one in the wiki
[12:15] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Thanks
[12:15] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/
[12:15] <sc0tt> how is ubuntu with old hardware?
[12:15] <sc0tt> :>
[12:15] <raintheory> dtygel,   oh okay..   you pulled the CD drive from a working PC though right?
[12:15] <sc0tt> and i'm talking
[12:15] <apokryphos> sc0tt: how old?
[12:16] <sc0tt> cyrix 686 - 200mhz chip
[12:16] <sc0tt> :>
[12:16] <sc0tt> :D
[12:16] <apokryphos> ouch, probably not great
[12:16] <sc0tt> >:D
[12:16] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: ah, I do get an error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KMTNdz56.html
[12:16] <sc0tt> I have a k6-2 450 chip as well
[12:16] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: should it be in dapper-security?
[12:16] <sc0tt> but i think i'd have to flash the bios
[12:16] <sc0tt> slackware installs fine on it :>
[12:16] <sc0tt> but i could get slack to install on a toaster if i wanted to
[12:16] <sc0tt> :D
[12:17] <dtygel> raintheory: right
[12:17] <sonics> hmm, anyone can tell me why, when I change my .bashrc to PS1=.. with colors... the end of lines in my terminals is way too short?!
[12:17] <sonics> cant even type to the end of a terminal :(
[12:19] <apokryphos> sc0tt: dang, can't seem to see the official statements on spec requirements anywhere :/
[12:19] <dtygel> raintheory: does that give some hint?
[12:19] <raintheory> dtygel,   you might want to try pulling any unnedded hardware from the box and seeing if it will boot.
[12:20] <whyso> whats an app like spacemonger for ubuntu (gives visual representation of space on your HD)
[12:20] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: nah, it wouldn't be there, but you want to make sure you get no errors, so remove (comment out) troublesome links
[12:20] <apokryphos> whyso: I always use filelight and I like it quite a bit
[12:20] <raintheory> dtygel,   it may be getting hung up on hardware if yr stuck at initramfs
[12:20] <dtygel> raintheory: hmmm, but small linux distros  boot from floppy
[12:20] <whyso> apokryphos: k ty :)
[12:20] <dtygel> raintheory: now I see what you mean!
[12:20] <Daviey> Hi, anybody and expert on scripting (ie Bash?)?
[12:21] <sc0tt> apokryphos: it just hung when booting the CD at the 'creating live user' part
[12:21] <dtygel> raintheory: good idea. What stuff should I get off? the HDs? what else? The ethernet card?
[12:21] <no0tic> what can I use to grab videos of my desktop?
[12:21] <cheesy> xvidcap
[12:21] <jelly> !mp3
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <Nyto-RJ> Hi guys...Newbie question...I got  a desktop and a laptop. They got ubuntu 6.06 installed and I want to set up a home lan. They are like before when they had winshit xp on them, connected to a HUB.
[12:22] <cheesy> no0tic: xvidcap
[12:22] <jelly> hmm
[12:22] <jelly> !mplayer
[12:22] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[12:22] <apokryphos> sc0tt: not too surprising, I'd say
[12:22] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:22] <qwer> hi all, aptitude always wants to purge the software I installed with synaptic. I keep aptitute up to date. Why is that and what can I do. this sucks so much.
[12:22] <spdf> no0tic: Yeh, xvidcap is decent
[12:22] <no0tic> thanks
[12:22] <Daviey> Nyto-RJ, What will be acting as the gateway/server?
[12:22] <raintheory> dtygel,   i'm not sure what you have in it and what you will need, but trial and error might be the only way to find out if its getting hung on hardware
[12:23] <Nyto-RJ> the thing is
[12:23] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: ok, I commented out dapper-security and still got nothing
[12:23] <no0tic> spdf, it is not in the repositories
[12:23] <sc0tt> apokryphos: me too :>
[12:23] <raintheory> dtygel,  how old is the pc?
[12:23] <whyso> apokryphos: neither google or synaptic search turning up anything on filelite :(
[12:23] <Nyto-RJ> i got adsl connection and they share it
[12:23] <sc0tt> i'll whack slack on it
[12:23] <mmcji> howdee
[12:23] <Enverex> Is 64bit Ubuntu out yet?
[12:23] <sc0tt> apokryphos: think 5.10 would make any difference?
[12:23] <sc0tt> Enverex: yup
[12:23] <apokryphos> whyso: that's because it's filelight ;-)
[12:23] <Nyto-RJ> the modem its connected to the hub and the 2 pc two...
[12:24] <Enverex> sc0tt, ah, thanks
[12:24] <apokryphos> sc0tt: not really
[12:24] <sc0tt> i have a disc over there for 64 bit
[12:24] <sc0tt> :)
[12:24] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: no errors this time?
[12:24] <qwer> is it at least possible to search for the packeges aptitude wants to purge??? so I can tell the programm to stop this
[12:24] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: no errors
[12:24] <mmcji> on a default install of 6.06 is there anything in the /opt directory ?
[12:24] <justmike> Hi everyone...I got some tunneling problems.
[12:24] <hitman> yo
[12:24] <hitman> whats up can anybody tell me were i can find hackers
[12:24] <whyso> apokryphos: oops there we go!
[12:24] <cheesy> mmcji: no
[12:24] <White_Castle> Can someone tell me how one uses a Makefile ples? :(
[12:25] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: not sure what to say other than you're *sure* sun java's not there?
[12:25] <hikenboot> hello all anyone know how to get nvidia 3d acceleration working on ubuntu
[12:25] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: if that's really the case I guess you can just download manually
[12:25] <apokryphos> hikenboot: check the FAQ
[12:25] <hitman> hackers ??
[12:25] <hitman> witch rook
[12:25] <Nyto-RJ> Does anybody know how to set up the lan
[12:25] <apokryphos> hitman: what?
[12:25] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: alright, I guess I might do that
[12:25] <Daviey> White_Castle, you should be able to use './configure' (if exsists) then 'make' (to build) then 'make install' to install
[12:26] <AsheD> !fixres
[12:26] <hitman> can you tell me  were i can find hackers
[12:26] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: thanks for the help anyway
[12:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:26] <justmike> I am trying to tunnel my e-mail with Evolution---it doesn't seem to work.  I am a newbie to Ubuntu.
[12:26] <slacktyro> hi all, i'm getting a problem with my sound system.....it works fine but if i change the volume at mixer it stop to work
[12:26] <dtygel> raintheory: its refurbished, with veery old parts
[12:26] <cheesy> hitman: you can find hackers in the garden
[12:26] <[-NoX-] > !seen Celeste
[12:26] <apokryphos> hitman: this is the Ubuntu support channel, for offtopic talk please head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <^Ocean^> okay, when my kernel autolaods a driver... what file do i need to modify so it pass's some info too the modules im loading  e.x modprobe bttv card=23
[12:26] <ubotu> I last saw Celeste<EMAIL_ADDRESS>1d 10h 26m 31s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[12:26] <dtygel> raintheory: it seems like your idea worked!
[12:26] <mmcji> what do you mean by tunnel
[12:26] <White_Castle> Daviey: Just 'make' in the terminal?
[12:26] <Daviey> yes
[12:26] <raintheory> dtygel,   what did you pull from it?
[12:26] <White_Castle> Says command unrecognized
[12:26] <justmike> ssh port forwarding
[12:27] <Daviey> White_Castle,  you need to be in the directory of the source
[12:27] <apokryphos> White_Castle: Daviey: for those who don't know how to compile I really recommend first checking the FAQ entry on the matter
[12:27] <dtygel> raintheory: the 2 HDs
[12:27] <wimpies> where is the Ubuntu -egdy irc channel ?
[12:27] <apokryphos> wimpies: #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <raintheory> dtygel,   check the jumpers on the HDs
[12:27] <Nyto-RJ> PLEASE HELP...
[12:27] <dtygel> rainthoery: but I also lowered the RAM  in the F6 options
[12:27] <White_Castle> OK I will :)
[12:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Nyto-RJ about caps
[12:28] <whyso> turns out all my stuff was hiding in temp!
[12:28] <apokryphos> heh :)
[12:28] <apokryphos> whyso: so what do you think of filelight? ;-)
[12:28] <mmcji> you want to forward incoming requests? or do you want to forward the e-mail that you recieved to offsite server?
[12:28] <dtygel> raintheory: one is master and the other one is slave. They're both in IDE1 slot
[12:29] <whyso> its cool! although itl take some getting used to (the circular display)
[12:29] <dtygel> raintheory: oh no :( now it hung in the squashfs line...
[12:29] <squarepusher> how do I get KDE's "Open With" dialog box to accept a command-line executable and its arguments? Is this documented somewhere? My Google searches are blowing...
[12:29] <apokryphos> squarepusher: #kubuntu
[12:29] <slacktyro> hi all, i'm getting a problem with my sound system.....it works fine but if i change the volume at mixer it stop to work
[12:30] <justmike> the problem seems to be setting up the tunnels...but I've done it with Windows many times before and it works ok
[12:30] <raintheory> dtygel,  hmm
[12:30] <dtygel> raintheory: maybe I put to little RAM in the F6 boot options command. It seems not to be entirely hung, because the cd-rom is still working
[12:30] <cheesy> slacktyro: maybe some1 could help if youre question has more details
[12:31] <Yggdrasil> can somone gime a hand with this ?is there a way to make a floppy disk automount ?
[12:31] <dtygel> raintheory: yes! it came through squashfs line!
[12:31] <slacktyro> hi cheesy, i'm sorry but it's a little strange
[12:31] <dtygel> raintheory: I think it's because I put too little ram, and so it takes ages for any line...
[12:31] <raintheory> dtygel,   prob right
[12:32] <slacktyro> cheesy, i boot the system, everything work, but if i gone to mixer and change some volume, the sound stop to work and will only came back when i boot the system again
[12:32] <raintheory> dtygel,   so we dont know if it was the hard drives or you changing the F6 that did it
[12:33] <dtygel> raintheory: yes
[12:33] <UKMatt> to update to edgy, do you have to wait until the 26th to get the non-beta?
[12:33] <jelly> hmm, running xubuntu 6.06.1, I've added universe and multiverse repo's, pressed the reload button in synaptic and search still cannot find a mplayer package. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer suggests the package should be in multiverse.
[12:33] <menko> hi, when you use sudo/gksudo to open a program, what is the first file which is run before the program is started? I want to set some environment varibles before the application starts.
[12:33] <[H] 3b0R> hey ive installed the nvidia beta driver with the script and i have to reinstall it on every reboot, how do i fix it?
[12:33] <dtygel> raintheory: I'll first finish this boot, and then after I'll try with the HDs installed
[12:33] <whyso> is kde a fork of ubuntu?
[12:33] <White_Castle> I keep getting command not found when I try 'make' and then 'make install'
[12:33] <dabaR> yes
[12:33] <White_Castle> What's going on?
[12:33] <whyso> ( i mean kubuntu)
[12:33] <jelly> whyso: no.
[12:34] <raintheory> dtygel,   still booting?
[12:34] <apokryphos> whyso: not a fork, all Ubuntu and Kubuntu packages are in the same repositories
[12:34] <Hail_Spacecake> what is the command for bringing up a wireless network in ubuntu?
[12:34] <Daviey> White_Castle, do you have build-essential installed?
[12:34] <apokryphos> whyso: /msg ubotu kubuntu
[12:34] <White_Castle> Erm, no idea. :|
[12:34] <whyso> ah cool, then all my old apps should still work?
[12:34] <apokryphos> indeed
[12:34] <slacktyro> White_Castle: are you typing "./make" instead "make"?
[12:34] <whyso> nice :)
[12:34] <jelly> whyso: it's more or less a different subset of preinstalled packages.
[12:34] <dtygel> raintheory: veeeery slow :(
[12:34] <UKMatt> to update to edgy, do you have to wait until the 26th to get the non-beta?
[12:34] <White_Castle> No just 'make'.
[12:34] <apokryphos> UKMatt: yes
[12:34] <dabaR> Hail_Spacecake: what exactly do you mean?
[12:34] <Daviey> White_Castle, sudo apt-get install build-essential build-common
[12:35] <whyso> !tell UKMatt about schedlue
[12:35] <^Ocean^> is there an easy way to set up Grub ?
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schedlue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <apokryphos> set up?
[12:35] <whyso> hmmm misspelled that
[12:35] <^Ocean^> yes
[12:35] <UKMatt> whyso, i've seen it anyways
[12:35] <Hail_Spacecake> dabar: I want to bring up my wlan so I can use it
[12:35] <apokryphos> ^Ocean^: well it's set up by default
[12:35] <raeb> can anyone help me with my nvidia drivers ?
[12:35] <whyso> UKMatt: ah ok, sry
[12:35] <apokryphos> raeb: with what exactly?
[12:36] <slacktyro> my sound is make me crazy :(
[12:36] <Mad3Max3> I have a question about drivers for graphic... I got a onboard gfx on the Nforce chipset. Anyone know which drivers to install and how?
[12:36] <dtygel> raintheory: it booted!! yes! :)
[12:36] <raeb> every time i reboot, xserver says it can't find the nvidia.ko module
[12:36] <rm_you> when you make a raid with mdadm it becomes, say.... /dev/md0. Is that a DISK or a PARTITION? The guide I was following has me doing "mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0", but it seems like it's a DISK from what I can tell... help!?
[12:36] <dabaR> Hail_Spacecake: and you want to do it in the terminal?
[12:36] <dtygel> raintheory: now I'll tweak to know if it were the HDs or the memory
[12:36] <AsheD> I don't know who does the bot scripting, but the !fixres suggestion to 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart' doesn't seem to work, it just stops X, though I cannot be sure if that is just my computer
[12:37] <raintheory> dtygel,   great,
[12:37] <^Ocean^> Grub no matter what i seem to do will boot the correct hard drive by default.   it wants to boot /dev/hdd for some reason... even tho hdd dont exsist.  I have to press escap and manual edit the boot like so root=/dev/hda1  by default root=UUID=xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx or something like that not even readable so i dont even know what grubs trying to boot but its not the right drive
[12:37] <^Ocean^> sorry will = wont
[12:37] <dabaR> AsheD: you replaced the ? right?
[12:37] <apokryphos> ^Ocean^: /msg ubotu grub
[12:37] <cafuego> ^Ocean^: It's using the partition id. (or trying to) I don't know why this was thought to be a good idea for edgy.
[12:37] <marcrosoft> how many of you are now running edgy? ... should I wait until the final release?
[12:38] <AsheD> dabaR:: yes
[12:38] <raintheory> dtygel,  yeah let me know which it was...   couyld even be just one of the HDs or something
[12:38] <colder4545> i have a friend that I am sending an install CD to, he has a AMD sempron 3200, i can't figure out through google if i need the 32 or 64 bit ubuntu, he has no clue
[12:38] <sonics> hmm, anyone can tell me why, when I change my .bashrc to PS1=.. with colors... the end of lines in my terminals is way too short?!
[12:38] <dabaR> AsheD: and what did you do before that?
[12:38] <^Ocean^> greate but how do i configure grub to use the right hard drive ?
[12:38] <apokryphos> marcrosoft: no harm in trying the live (desktop) image
[12:38] <Mad3Max3> Noone that have installed grapicsdrivers?
[12:38] <White_Castle> Daviey: I get "E: Couldn't find package build-common
[12:38] <White_Castle> ".
[12:38] <sonics> if I dont use colors in bashrc its perfect =/
[12:38] <dtygel> raintheory: now rebooting: I wont change the options to see if it were the hds
[12:38] <AsheD> dabaR:: I just followed the instructions on how to change the resolutions
[12:38] <cafuego> colder4545: 32bit
[12:38] <colder4545> cafuego, thanks
[12:38] <dabaR> AsheD: what did you do exactly?
[12:38] <marcrosoft> apokryphos, i am having an issue with dbus/hal .. and im wondering if an upgrade might fix it :)
[12:39] <White_Castle> I'm on ubuntu 5.10
[12:39] <AsheD> dabaR:: I was able to restart X because I remembered the command used, and it seemed to work after that, it just didn't auto-restart like I expected
[12:39] <cafuego> colder4545: The 64bit will wok, but he will have problems with java, video and flash.
[12:39] <apokryphos> marcrosoft: perhaps, perhaps not
[12:39] <NetHaxor> who i connect to internet without typing "pon dsl-provider" ???
[12:39] <dabaR> AsheD: that command works here
[12:39] <Mad3Max3> graphics drivers ppl.. please help
[12:39] <cafuego> NetHaxor: Check the 'ppp info in man 5 interfaces;
[12:39] <NetHaxor> how do i connect to internet without typing "pon dsl-provider" ???
[12:39] <colder4545> so it is a 64 bit, the info on google was really confusing
[12:39] <NetHaxor> ok
[12:39] <AsheD> dabaR:: then I will assume it is my PC, and bow out
[12:40] <Mad3Max3> the graphics are terrible. it's lagging terrible
[12:40] <dabaR> Hail_Spacecake: and you want to get the wireless connected in the terminal?
[12:40] <cafuego> colder4545: Yep, the current semprons (Socket 754) all are. It's just that Linux 64bit isn't that great for the desktop :-)
[12:40] <cafuego> colder4545: I run 32bit on mine too.
[12:40] <joe__> can you run smp with 32 bit?
[12:40] <Daviey> White_Castle, do you have your repo's enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell mad3max3 about nvidia
[12:40] <cafuego> joe__: why not?
[12:41] <mmcji> what do ya'll think about easyubuntu?
[12:41] <NetHaxor> how do i make a script that connects me automatictly to the internet when i start my pc??
[12:41] <colder4545> cafuego, good deal, so if he dual booted into windows he would have to have the 64-bit XP?
[12:41] <mmcji> im coming to ubuntu from freebsd
[12:41] <cafuego> NetHaxor: Check the 'ppp info in man 5 interfaces;
[12:41] <BlueEagle> mad3max3: ubotu should have sendt you a message. If you've got any problems other than that please feel free to ask.
[12:41] <Max_-> I did what they say on http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg25t09.htm and it looks good... but when I try https://localhost/ it doesn't work!!!  What did I forget?
[12:42] <Mad3Max3> what is the terminal command to get kernel name and such.. something like enum or
[12:42] <cafuego> colder4545: No, microsoft haven't actually sold that to anyone (there pretty much are no drivers for it still)
[12:42] <White_Castle> Daviey,  how do I know that they're enabled?
[12:42] <colder4545> cafuego, wow, should i tell him not to order the chip then?
[12:42] <LjL> Mad3Max3: uname
[12:42] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: uname -t
[12:42] <Daviey> White_Castle, they will be missing the '#'  ie you sould have no # deb ......
[12:42] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: uname -r even
[12:42] <Mad3Max3> thats it .. thanks
[12:42] <White_Castle> Oh ok, I'll do that
[12:43] <cafuego> colder4545: No, the chip is fine, just run 32bit software on it <heh>
[12:43] <White_Castle> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:43] <White_Castle> should be
[12:43] <White_Castle> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:43] <White_Castle> right?
[12:43] <Daviey> White_Castle, then do a sudo apt-get update (this will update your database from the new repos)
[12:43] <colder4545> cafuego, ok thanks a bunch, that probably saved me a couple hours of headaches!
[12:43] <Daviey> Whatsisname,  correct
[12:43] <Daviey> White_Castle, correct
[12:43] <anon32> gah, I can't burn in SAO mode with K3b, what might the problem be?
[12:43] <anon32> it works fine in gnomebaker
[12:44] <White_Castle> thanks
[12:44] <dtygel> raintheory: I'm still without the HDs, but it didn't work when I let the options untouched...
[12:44] <Whatsisname> What
[12:45] <sholden> If I install Edgy Eft Beta, will apt-get dist-upgrade upgrade everything when the final version comes out?
[12:45] <sholden> (will it be just like I installed the final, or will I have to reinstall?)
[12:45] <anon32> burning in SAO mode fails with K3b even though my recorder supports SAO, what should I do?
[12:45] <raintheory> dtygel,   hmmm...    have you tried re-seating the physical RAM?   not sure if that would make a difference
[12:45] <cafuego> sholden: it will upgarde to the final version
[12:45] <sholden> OK great.
[12:46] <sholden> Thanks
[12:47] <slacktyro> My problem is this:  i boot the system, the sound work fine, but if i gone to any mixer and change some volume, the sound stop to work and will only came back when i boot the system again, how can i solve it?
[12:47] <dtygel> raintheory: what do you mean? in bios? do you think that is the problem?
[12:47] <dabaR> slacktyro: does the sound work now?
[12:47] <raintheory> dtygel,   i mean actually take the RAM out of the system and put it back in?
[12:47] <anon32> has anyone here encountered problems with SAO writing?
[12:47] <mmcji> what do ya'll think about easyubuntu?  I'm coming to ubuntu for desktop use from FreeBSD.
[12:47] <Max_-> I did what they say on http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg25t09.htm and it looks good... but when I try https://localhost/ it doesn't work!!!  What did I forget?
[12:47] <slacktyro> dabaR: no, i try to change the volume and it stopped
[12:48] <Seveas> !easyubuntu
[12:48] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:48] <LjL> mmcji: we generally think it's better to read the documentation.
[12:48] <dabaR> slacktyro: in what program did you change the sound? Do you have gmail open?
[12:48] <Ademan> anyone know why the heck GDM would say "cannot start splash, no suitable theme for 1920x1440" even though there's no such resolution either in my xorg.conf nor my system->preferences->screen resolution
[12:48] <slacktyro> dabaR: i try to use gnome mixer, alsamixer
[12:48] <slacktyro> dabaR: do you mean gmail account?
[12:48] <raintheory> dtygel,   could be something like that in bios, or could be that the physical connections for the ram have crept a bit, or may be a bit of dust...    worth a try taking it out and putting it back in
[12:49] <dabaR> slacktyro: post the output of lsof /dev/snd* /dev/dsp* to the paste.ubuntu-nl.org pastebin, please.
[12:49] <dabaR> slacktyro: a browser with gmail open in it.
[12:49] <raintheory> dtygel,   you'd be suprised how often thats fixed weird things for me
[12:49] <len> how can I set a variable in linux for good, like $JAVA_HOME?
[12:49] <White_Castle> Thanks alot Daviey, it works now. :)
[12:49] <mmcji> LjL: if have tested easyubuntu and loaded it on three laptop's, seems to work well, but I though there was a better way to install support for multimedia and this would be the best place to ask.
[12:49] <dabaR> len: add it to the /etc/bash.bashrc file
[12:50] <^Ocean^> how do i add options to kernel modules that are auto-loaded at boot time ?
[12:50] <LjL> len: use "export VARIABLE=value" to set it. if you want it to stay, look at ~/.bashrc
[12:50] <mmcji> LjL: sorry, ment to say I have installed....lol
[12:50] <len> ty
[12:50] <anon32> is there a place for K3b support (and not #k3b)?
[12:50] <Daviey> White_Castle, Good stuff!  Next thing to do is learn how to make .debs!  then you can add and remove & upgrade easyier!
[12:50] <White_Castle> :O
[12:51] <anon32> GAH! Why am I the only one being ignored?
[12:51] <LjL> mmcji, yes, we simply believe that reading the official documentation and understanding the steps involved is better than using automatic scripts that don't help you understand what you're doing, and may be broken themselves.
[12:51] <dabaR> we dont like you
[12:51] <len> export VARIABLE or export $VARIABLE?
[12:51] <LjL> mmcji: for multimedia, for instance
[12:51] <SpaceFrog> I'm trying to compile and install something i've downloaded, but when I type "make" i get this: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:51] <LjL> !tell mmcji about multimedia
[12:51] <slacktyro> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27386/
[12:51] <LjL> len: no $
[12:51] <LjL> len: only when using variables you have to prefix them with $
[12:52] <LjL> len: when setting them, not
[12:52] <dabaR> anon32: in seriousness, though, cause we do not know the answer to your question
[12:52] <whyso> when i log in it says cannot load /HOME.drmc file to get default session, AND the login screen initially shows static at top and i have to scroll down to get to edit sessions, AND cant edit monitor settings from KDE :(((((((
[12:52] <anon32> :-(
[12:52] <dabaR> slacktyro: hm...how about the output of amixer?
[12:52] <dtygel> raintheory: it's the memory size in F6 boot options from ubuntu, definitely
[12:52] <bruenig> is the release candidate supposed to be out today?
[12:52] <^Ocean^> how do i add options to kernel modules that are auto-loaded at boot time ? for example when my computer starts it loads bttv but if i wanna use it, i have to sudo rmmod bttv then sudo modprobe bttv card=12  how can i make it so my kernel audo loads bttv with card=12 ?
[12:53] <mmcji> LjL: thank you very much for the assistance!
[12:53] <whyso> could anyone posssibly help??
[12:53] <dtygel> raintheory: I've tried several different things: changed configs in bios, and so on. Only setting ram size do 32000 works...
[12:53] <slacktyro> dabaR: it show the volume levels
[12:53] <dabaR> bruenig: visit ubuntu.com and read on the right hand side there are some news links
[12:53] <dabaR> slacktyro: post the whole thing to the pastebin
[12:53] <raintheory> dtygel,   weird..   very odd.
[12:53] <slacktyro> ok
[12:53] <mmcji> I will read the documentation at the url you sent..thanks again
[12:54] <dtygel> raintheory: very very odd
[12:54] <Dextorion> hi. What would be a good choice on a ftp server for a desktop machine?  Nothing fancy, bu i wish to set up a account for me, and one guest account. :)
[12:54] <dtygel> raintheory: I tried also other sizes, like 256000 or 512000... only 30000 worked...
[12:54] <slacktyro> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27387/
[12:54] <ivx> hey i installed frostwire useing the .deb package but it won't open. i click it and nothing happens.
[12:54] <raintheory> dtygel,   32000 or 30000?
[12:55] <raintheory> how much physical ram do you have ?
[12:55] <bruenig> ivx, open a terminal, and try "frostwire" see if it will launch
[12:55] <dabaR> slacktyro: what does running esd in a terminal do?
[12:55] <anon32> say, reading my debug logs, I get Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[12:56] <whyso> could someone please help me with one of my issues? id appreciate it
[12:56] <dabaR> brb
[12:56] <anon32> can someone explain that and recommend a fix?
[12:56] <raeb> whyso: what's the issue?
[12:56] <ivx> bruenig, yeah it is saying some stuff about i dont' have jre
[12:56] <bruenig> ivx, you need to get jre then
[12:56] <slacktyro> dabaR: nothing
[12:57] <bruenig> !info sun-java-bin
[12:57] <ivx> bruenig do i just do apt-get jre
[12:57] <ubotu> Package sun-java-bin does not exist in any distro I know
[12:57] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-bin
[12:57] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[12:57] <bruenig> ivx, have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[12:57] <dtygel> raintheory: 32000
[12:57] <ivx> bruenig yes so will apt-get do it then
[12:57] <whyso> when i log in it says cannot load /HOME.drmc file to get default session, AND the login screen initially shows static at top and i have to scroll down to get to edit sessions, AND cant edit monitor settings from KDE :(((((((
[12:57] <bruenig> ivx, do apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[12:58] <ivx> bruenig alright thank you
[12:58] <raintheory> dtygel,   how many MB of physical RAM is actually in the computer?
[12:58] <raeb> hmm
[12:58] <jvai> u kno what? java works fine in knoppix, is there a way to extract it from knoppix?
[12:58] <dtygel> raintheory: it's really strange though. Now it didn't work even with 32000 in the size when I set in bios the multiplicity of 8x100Mhz to give 800MHz (it worked with 3.5x100MHZ)
[12:58] <dtygel> raintheory: 256MB, 100MHZ
[12:58] <slacktyro> dabaR:do you know what can it be?
[12:59] <SpaceFrog> is there a ubuntu version of emerge?
[01:00] <raeb> that's a toughy whyso, i can't really help you  =\
[01:00] <raeb> sorry
[01:00] <dabaR> slacktyro: if you esd it gives no output? does it just hang there?
[01:00] <LjL> SpaceFrog: don't think. what are you intending to do?
[01:00] <raeb> there are some posts on the ubuntu forums you might wanna give a read
[01:01] <dtygel> raintheory: I think the problem is in the RAM slots in the motherboard... so, hardware :(
[01:01] <SpaceFrog> LjL: I'm trying to ./configure something and it needs XML::Parser
[01:01] <slacktyro> dabaR: exactly
[01:02] <dabaR> slacktyro: let it hang and try playing sound.
[01:02] <raintheory> dtygel,   i was thinking that...   thats why i mentioned taking the RAM out and putting it back in
[01:02] <apokryphos> SpaceFrog: what are you trying to compile?
[01:02] <jelly> SpaceFrog: use apt-cache search XML::Parser to find the package containing it.
[01:02] <whyso> raeb: thanks anyways!
[01:03] <LjL> SpaceFrog: just guessing... the package you want to install might be libxml-parser-perl for that.  anyway, if you want to compile source packages automatically, that *can* be done, a bit like (what i believe) emerge does. but... the package concerned has to be in the repositories in the first place!
[01:03] <raintheory> dtygel,   maybe even but the RAM in one strip at a time (if you have more than 1) to see if one of the strips is bad
[01:03] <jelly> SpaceFrog: perl module packages are usually called libfoo-bar-perl
[01:03] <slacktyro> dabaR: still don't work
[01:03] <calctech> Can the GUI installer on the LiveCD work on a PC with only 192MB RAM?
[01:03] <ivx> bruenig do i need to reboot or anything after i install that
[01:03] <dabaR> slacktyro: no, no idea what is wrong.
[01:03] <jelly> SpaceFrog: in your case, that could be libxml-parser-perl
[01:03] <LjL> calctech: yes, with a little difficulty, but it should.
[01:03] <slacktyro> dabaR: but the esd returned
[01:03] <Mad3Max3> thats crap.. it doesn't work even thou im following the instructions on the page
[01:03] <bruenig> no
[01:03] <dtygel> raintheory: I have only one. But now I tried it in different slots, and it doesn't work. Only in one of them! So, who guarantees that this single one slots works well?
[01:03] <dabaR> slacktyro: did you ask crimsun? ask him when you see him if you did not ask him already
[01:04] <dtygel> raintheory: I know the memory is good because I used it in another machine
[01:04] <ivx> bruenig it is still doing that same thing
[01:04] <bruenig> ivx, what is it saying when you run it?
[01:04] <dtygel> raintheory: maybe some jumpers in mother board? or no hope? it just came from the technical today!
[01:04] <agent> what command does one use to find out which package owns a certain file on a system?
[01:04] <SpaceFrog> Thanks guys, I installed libxml-parser-perl, but I'm getting a different error now: You must have libxml2 >= 2.6.0 development headers installed to build Gaim.
[01:04] <slacktyro> dabaR: i don't remember to talk with him yet, thank you for the help
[01:04] <LjL> agent: dpkg -S filename
[01:04] <agent> LjL: thank you!
[01:05] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: 'sudo apt-get build-dep gaim'
[01:05] <jelly> SpaceFrog: why not just use gaim from the distro?
[01:05] <SpaceFrog> I'm trying out the beta
[01:05] <anon32> SpaceFrog, and for that one, you need libxml2-dev
[01:05] <raintheory> dtygel,   jumpers are a possibility...   I really wouldn't know where to tell you to start with those though
[01:05] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: Of course, you could simply use the packaged version. (There are beta apckages, yes)
[01:05] <SpaceFrog> there are RPM's, yeah.
[01:05] <ivx> bruenig it won't do anything when i click the icon. when i run it trought the terminal it says i don't have valid jer
[01:05] <LjL> SpaceFrog, when someone here mentions packages that you might install, they'll hardly ever be RPM ;)
[01:06] <slacktyro> whereis alsaconf at ubuntu
[01:06] <slacktyro> ?
[01:06] <bruenig> ivx, it shouldn't being do that. You have your jre, it should work. So beats me
[01:06] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: I don't do rpm.
[01:06] <raintheory> dtygel,  it may even be possible that the RAM suffered from a static discharge or something while moving it from one PC to another...    I've had that happen to me more than once
[01:06] <ivx> bruenig alright i'll play with it thanks though
[01:06] <jelly> SpaceFrog: what cafuego said is probably the easiest way to install all the required development packages.
[01:07] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: But for instance, you could use the gaim seb-src from edgy.
[01:07] <Mad3Max3> BlueEagle - I get error message when I try to start the drivers.. u know how to install a Geforce 6150 GPU?
[01:07] <LjL> !gaim2
[01:07] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[01:07] <vos> Is there a wireshark pkg for Ubuntu?
[01:07] <LjL> !info wireshark
[01:08] <Mad3Max3> Blueeagle : get this message - Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[01:08] <Mad3Max3> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[01:08] <ubotu> Package wireshark does not exist in any distro I know
[01:08] <LjL> vos: there is in Edgy, which will be out in a week
[01:08] <jelly> vos: it was called ethereal before... that's the name for dapper
[01:09] <Mad3Max3> Anyone?
[01:09] <cafuego> Bueller?
[01:09] <kitche> jelly: well ethereal still exists
[01:09] <raintheory> cafuego, lol!
[01:09] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Are you on edgy or dapper?
[01:09] <LjL> oh they're renamed ethereal...?
[01:09] <kismet_> Hi, I've been having multiple problems with the Login Screen not coming up, either after booting, or after Logout. Where might I find an error log for this, or how might I solve this issue?
[01:09] <raintheory> cafuego, that was good
[01:09] <jelly> kitche: what, in edgy?  Probably a dummy package.
[01:09] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, edgy
[01:09] <vos> LjL: Edgy out in a week?
[01:09] <vos> jelly: yeah!
[01:09] <LjL> !schedule > vos
[01:09] <kitche> jelly: don't know about in edgy but ethereal the project still exists
[01:10] <raintheory> !schedule > raintheory
[01:10] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Edit /etc/modpobe.d/lrm_video and comment out the lines without comments in front of them.
[01:10] <LjL> !msg the bot
[01:10] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Then run 'sudo modprone --ignore-install nvidia'
[01:10] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:10] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: 'modprobe' even
[01:11] <bruffy> can somebody help me with kpackage?
[01:11] <LjL> kitche: judging from the wireshark.org website, though, it just appears to have been renamed
[01:11] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego , ok.. I shall check.. one min
[01:11] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: it will work, i did it yesterday :-)
[01:11] <LjL> bruffy: maybe and maybe not -- you should ask your question. but i'm not sure using kpackage is such wise a choice, why don't you use Adept?
[01:11] <kitche> LjL: maybe I just know that ethereal got updated the same day as wireshark new version came out
[01:12] <jelly> kitche: Yeah, well, afaict Ethereal is going to be the commercial branding, while the free one is renamed.
[01:12] <soobnauce> whats the best music player for ubuntu
[01:12] <soobnauce> a lot of people say xmms
[01:12] <LjL> !best
[01:12] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:13] <cheesy> !codecs
[01:13] <dtygel> raintheory: all that is so weird... anyway, we came close now to a diagnostic. I must render it again to the techical :(
[01:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <johannari> does anyone know if I can install mysql 5.0 using apt on Hoary
[01:14] <cafuego> johannari: no.
[01:14] <raintheory> dtygel,   well it was nice working with you on it!   :)
[01:14] <kitche> LjL, jelly nevermind wireshark is ethereal now :)
[01:14] <lws> which package is needed to get /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build
[01:14] <agent> does anyone know what package installs /etc/default/console-setup? dpkg -S show nothing, neither does searching on packages.ubuntu.com o_O
[01:14] <johannari> cafuego: it's not possible?
[01:15] <kitche> lws: in reality that should point to your linux-source
[01:15] <cafuego> lws: linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[01:15] <dtygel> raintheory: I must thank you a lot for "being there" :)
[01:15] <len> hi, I have this friend here trying to install Ubuntu
[01:15] <cafuego> johannari: it's possible, but far more trouble than it's worth.
[01:15] <CarlFK> how come I cant find file-zilla in the repos? http://packages.ubuntu.com - i thought I had installed it from there... ?
[01:15] <johannari> cafuego: ok....thanks
[01:15] <len> but in the mid of instalation it stops
[01:15] <dtygel> reaintheory: whenever you need something, just say :)
[01:15] <len> what should I do?
[01:15] <cafuego> johannari: (ie: you need to do a backport from dapper sources)
[01:16] <johannari> cafuego: oh hell no
[01:16] <raintheory> dtygel,   no problem, glad i was able to help you out at least a little bit
[01:16] <lws> cafuego, kitche: thanks
[01:16] <cafuego> johannari: Yah ;-)
[01:17] <agent> nm... i think i figured it out... it is created console-setup configure script :/
[01:17] <raintheory> dtygel,   at least to diagnose a bit for lack of getting it to actually work, heh
[01:17] <sc0tt> apokryphos: actually looks like its starting to run alright
[01:17] <sc0tt> :P
[01:17] <sc0tt> 200mhz chip/100mb ram
[01:17] <sc0tt> :>
[01:17] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego, what shall I do in that file.. lrm-video?
[01:18] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Just comment it out - all of it.
[01:18] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: its rules are making the moprobe fail.
[01:18] <ubuntu> ok i have 2 harddrives and i want linux on one and my windows on another...will that work?
[01:18] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego, so it will be a blank file then..
[01:18] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Yup. (You could delete it too, but I prefer to keep mine)
[01:18] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego, even the load statment
[01:19] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: yup
[01:19] <LjL> agent: i'm not sure... i guess files in /etc/default may get created by the postinst script. i guess the package that's actually responsible for that file is console-setup anyway
[01:19] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: :%s/^/\# /g
[01:20] <soobnauce> what version of xmms would i download for ubuntu? debian?
[01:20] <ubuntu> i mean i dont want to lose anything that is already on windows....will it cause me to lose files from windows if i install linux to the slave drive?
[01:20] <agent> LjL: yes it is... thank you again... i just backed up the file and ran reconfigure (see my msg above)
[01:20] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, and then what?
[01:20] <kitche> soobnauce: it's in the repos
[01:20] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: sudo modprobe --ignore-install nvidia
[01:21] <kitche> !xmms
[01:21] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:21] <LjL> soobnauce: you don't manually "download" packages. you just use the appropriate APT frontend to have them automatically fetched and installed.
[01:21] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to install the ieee80211 subsystem in Ubuntu, and looking for the readme file that is supposed to be included in the tgz, but isn't there. Where is it?
[01:21] <LjL> soobnauce: try typing "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:21] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: That will load it now, the file editing means it will autoload next time.
[01:21] <soobnauce> ok, ill try that
[01:21] <Mad3Max3> cafugeo, ok.. im testing it.. brb
[01:22] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, how can I see if it is running?
[01:22] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: lsmod | less (see 2nd line)
[01:22] <slacktyro> dabaR: i found something strange
[01:23] <slacktyro> dabaR: can i paste it?
[01:23] <re-align> slacktyro, use the pastebin
[01:23] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Then just retsart gdm; /sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:23] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, Module                  Size  Used by
[01:23] <Mad3Max3> nvidia               4552308  0
[01:24] <sentinel> Hi... I'm trying to configure Ubuntu to not start powernowd when during boot, because it lags my whole system. Could someone tell me where I do such configurations?
[01:24] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, <sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart> ?
[01:25] <cafuego> yep, that will start X and give you  alogin screen
[01:25] <slacktyro> dabaR:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27391/
[01:25] <Ademan> how can i start my how can i choose my default window manager?
[01:25] <soobnauce> sweet thanks ljl... im a super noob with linux
[01:26] <Ademan> soobnauce: you'll pick it up quick, the way its designed makes... so much sense... you just have to get used to it
[01:26] <LjL> soobnauce: i had the bot send you another message that tells you what are, and how you can enable, other repositories. if you decide to enable all of them, you'll have around 20000 packages available through Synaptic or apt-get
[01:26] <re-align> Anyone here besides me mount an ntfs partition with the fusermount? (the command line is sudo ntfsmount <insert device here> <insert target folder here> <insert switches and options here>)
[01:26] <indref> Second Life time! :D
[01:26] <wheels3572> Where can I find a program that will archive mail and save it?
[01:26] <indref> I've worked my butt of to make my video card work.
[01:26] <indref> Now to put it to use.
[01:27] <indref> How do I install?!
[01:27] <Ademan> indref: install what?
[01:27] <indref> Ademan, Second Life. I have a file called SecondLife_i686_1_12_2_9.tar.bz2
[01:28] <jelly> does anyone have mplayer in 6.06?
[01:28] <Ademan> oh, extract it to a folder
[01:28] <Ademan> then open up a console
[01:28] <Ademan> type ./configure
[01:28] <Ademan> make
[01:28] <Ademan> sudo make install
[01:28] <indref> Ademan, Hold the phone.
[01:28] <jelly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer says it should be in multiverse, but it isn't.
[01:28] <indref> Ademan, One step at a time :D
[01:28] <Ademan> (you need to be IN the folder you extracted second life to though
[01:28] <re-align> Usually there's a readme inside the archive somewhere...
[01:28] <Ademan> you should be able to right click on the archive and hit extract here
[01:29] <sentinel> Hi. Anyone able to tell me where to configure what modules to start during boot? I want to disable powernowd since it lags my computer. I'm fairly noob
[01:29] <Ademan> actually, lemme think about this, maybe you should use checkinstall, its the "better" way to do it, its a bit more complicated though
[01:29] <indref> I just want it to work.
[01:29] <Ademan> well if you ever plan on uninstalling, you should use checkinstall
[01:30] <whyso> kubuntu in system settings it says it cannot load my display driver :( help?
[01:30] <cafuego> sentinel: sudo update-rc.d -f powernowd remove
[01:30] <sentinel> thanks!
[01:30] <Ademan> indref: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/
[01:30] <Ademan> i've got to go though
[01:30] <cafuego> sentinel: Same command applies to any files in /etc/init.d/ (You can check if they start via ls /etc/rc2.d/)
[01:30] <indref> This is slow to extract..
[01:30] <indref> Ademan, You're kidding.
[01:31] <Ademan> you might need to run "sudo apt-get checkinstall" from a console to get checkinstall
[01:31] <sentinel> I have a dell inspiron laptop. What is the best alternative for powernowd... I got the impression its pretty good to have running for minimal powerconsuption
[01:31] <Ademan> brb
[01:31] <indref> Ademan, What the hell is checkinstall?
[01:31] <Ademan> makes it easy to uninstall
[01:31] <Ademan> packages
[01:31] <Ademan> or update them
[01:31] <Ademan> etc
[01:31] <sentinel> thanks cafuego... I'll check it out
[01:31] <indref> Well ok.
[01:31] <cafuego> Ademan: secondlife doesn't do an install as such, it runs froma  single dir (that the user needs write access to)
[01:31] <indref> I'll get that next.
[01:31] <Ademan> cafuego: oh, then maybe he should just ./configure && make
[01:32] <LogicalDash> Where can I get the README file for the ieee80211 subsystem?
[01:32] <cafuego> Ademan: If it did wok properly, I'd have a package :-)
[01:32] <Ademan> cafuego: can you work with him i've really gotta go
[01:32] <cafuego> Ademan: Just tar xfz; cd ./secondlife
[01:32] <indref> Ademan, Thank you :D
[01:32] <sonics> hi all
[01:32] <sonics> =)
[01:33] <cafuego> indref: Right click the file and "Extract Here".
[01:33] <indref> cafuego, It's extracted now :D
[01:33] <cafuego> indref: ok, open a terminal and cd to that dir. Then run ./secondlife
[01:34] <indref> so in the dir I type "run ./secondlife"
[01:34] <sonics> i got a problem, I got 2 videocards within my laptop.. And now I made 2 different xorg.conf files (one named xorg_stamina.conf and one xorg_speed.conf) what do I have to do now to let the right one be copied upon rebooting?
[01:35] <cafuego> indref: yup
[01:35] <sonics> one is nvidia and one is intel onboard card
[01:35] <indref> Command not found.
[01:35] <cafuego> indref: what's in that dir?
[01:35] <indref> app_settings      fonts          licenses.txt      secondlife      unicode.ttf
[01:35] <indref> bin               gpu_table.txt  lsl_guide.html    SecondLife
[01:35] <indref> character         help           releasenotes.txt  secondlife.ico
[01:35] <indref> featuretable.txt  lib            res-sdl           skins
[01:35] <LjL> !paste
[01:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:36] <indref> Jeese, specify already..
[01:36] <cafuego> indref: sh ./secondlife
[01:36] <beasty> is there a support chan for edgy ?
[01:36] <sonics> which file is runned upon booting up linux? where can I run scripts?
[01:36] <jrib> beasty: #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <wheels3572> Can i get help with mail archivers
[01:37] <indref> cafuego, Ok, that did a lot of stuff, now what. :D
[01:37] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, didn't work the first time.. had to reboot.. did this command that didn't work before and reseted the x woth ctrl-alt-backspace.. and viola..
[01:37] <link_36p> Does anyone know why my fat32 formatted ipod wont show up as a mountable device?
[01:38] <quux> Silly thing: my ubuntu is no longer recognizing the shift key or the capslock key! Nota hardware error because both work in a vmware guest session on the same machine ..
[01:38] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, now the windows don't studder and the text flowing better in chat
[01:38] <kitche> sonics: it runs many files
[01:38] <sonics> well kitche
[01:38] <sonics> one sec
[01:38] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, Many thanks.. how did u now about that with lrm-video file?
[01:39] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, is that edgy beta errors?
[01:39] <indref> cafuego, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27393/
[01:39] <sonics> kitche: http://paste-bin.com/1041 can u check that one out and c wether its gonna work
[01:40] <raeb> can anyone help with my nvidia drivers?
[01:40] <indref> raeb, Maybe I can.
[01:40] <Mad3Max3> raeb, what about them?
[01:40] <Mad3Max3> reab, just fixed mine! :)
[01:40] <raeb> they keep screwin up, here's a quick post on the forums about where I'm at
[01:40] <raeb> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280475
[01:40] <whyso> in kubuntu i cant load my display setting, help ?
[01:41] <quux> any thoughts on the shift/capslock issue?
[01:41] <NoUse> quit
[01:42] <grexk> linux ldap auth broken in edgy?
[01:42] <indref> raeb, Sorry, I don't know why that's happening. I'm still a noob too.
[01:42] <indref> raeb, All I know is I got mine to work.
[01:42] <pianoboy3333> For the game line rider, where are it's save files stored, and how can I send them/access/read them? http://joplan.com/digg/linerider_hacked.html
[01:42] <UKMatt> are there any Ubuntu programs that I can use to transcode from .m4a (apple's unprotected) to .mp3?
[01:42] <raeb> lol
[01:42] <kitche> sonics doesn't look right to me
[01:42] <pianoboy3333> UKMatt: soundconverter
[01:43] <sonics> kitche: whats wrong?
[01:43] <pianoboy3333> UKMatt: get the newer version though, google for it
[01:43] <sonics> I grabbed that one off the net
[01:43] <raeb> thanks anyway indref
[01:43] <UKMatt> pianoboy3333, would I have to install it then or is it a .deb
[01:43] <sonics> kitche: http://ariel.vardi.free.fr/ariel//vaiosz.html , you can see it there, under video section
[01:43] <ks1> UKMatt: yes, mplayer
[01:43] <UKMatt> ksl, mplayer can transcode?
[01:43] <ks1> search google for it. there are a couple scripts
[01:43] <ks1> UKMatt: yes.
[01:44] <UKMatt> ksl, how?
[01:44] <ks1> UKMatt: search google, there are a couple of scripts.
[01:44] <indref> Has anyone got SecondLife to run, I need install assistance.
[01:44] <UKMatt> alright what about this, what can I use to search my computer for .m4a's?
[01:44] <indref> UKMatt, The search function?
[01:44] <UKMatt> ksl, how do they work, just put a .mp3 next to the .m4a?
[01:44] <Mad3Max3> is there any package for changing the settings of the nvidia gfx GPU?
[01:45] <UKMatt> indref, it can search file types?
[01:45] <kitche> sonics what was the link again?
[01:45] <AdamMK> how to fix this? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:45] <indref> UKMatt, As far as I know.
[01:45] <ks1> UKMatt: Places>Search for files...
[01:45] <sonics> kitche: http://ariel.vardi.free.fr/ariel//vaiosz.html
[01:46] <UKMatt> ksl, indref, I don't see a way to restrict to .m4a's
[01:46] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, u there?
[01:46] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Based on the error I got when manually loading the driver, I knew where to look for problems.
[01:46] <LjL> Mad3Max3: nvidia-xsettings, though i seem to recall there was a GTK app as well that's escaping me right now
[01:46] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Sorry, wa soff doing espresso.
[01:46] <kitche> sonics: yeah it's right
[01:46] <ks1> UKMatt: put in name contains "*.m4a"
[01:46] <ks1> without the quotes
[01:47] <Mad3Max3> espresso is good.. make me one too! :)
[01:47] <kitche> sonics: forgot 1=true in bash
[01:47] <ks1> UKMatt: or select more options..
[01:47] <cafuego> indref: Yah, that's the problem with alpha software :-(
[01:47] <indref> UKMatt, Weird, you are right.
[01:47] <Mad3Max3> LjL, is nvidia-xsettings installed by default with the drivers?
[01:47] <indref> cafuego, What, it doesn't work? That's a heck of a problem.
[01:47] <AdamMK> i'm compiling Amarok from source so that i can include libmtp with it (./configure --with-libmtp) and have this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:47] <UKMatt> ksl, I don't have a more options, and searching .m4a isn't working, returning nothing
[01:48] <cafuego> indref: yah, well, closed-source eh
[01:48] <indref> cafuego, Did you read the pastebin I gave you?
[01:48] <sonics> kitche: ok , so I created this /etc/init.d/xorg_conf file... but what do I have to do now??
[01:48] <jrib> AdamMK: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[01:48] <ks1> UKMatt: well the default is to look in your /home... you can change that
[01:48] <LjL> Mad3Max3: think so, not sure. anyway i'm not really sure it's the thing you're looking for... let me see if i can find the package i actually had in mind
[01:48] <cafuego> indref: yup
[01:48] <ks1> UKMatt: works just fine for me.
[01:48] <indref> cafuego, What did you think.
[01:48] <Mad3Max3> LjL, ok.. thanks :)
[01:48] <UKMatt> ksl, are we talking about the same search feature?
[01:49] <ks1> UKMatt: Look for in... select "Filesystem" and for the Name contains *.m4a
[01:49] <AdamMK> jrib: but won't that get the precompiled version? i need to compile amarok from the source
[01:49] <ks1> UKMatt: Places>Search for files...
[01:49] <jrib> AdamMK: that command installs the dependencies you need to compile the amarok in the repos (very likely the same ones you need)
[01:49] <UKMatt> ksl, I have a Places>Search
[01:49] <kitche> sonics: you can chmod +x it to make it executable at start
[01:49] <indref> ksl, I don't see that either.
[01:49] <jrib> AdamMK: by the way, you could just download the amarok source package, edit debian/rules, and then rebuild the package
[01:50] <AdamMK> jrib: aah i see -dep=dependencies
[01:50] <sonics> kitche: alright, so I dont need to add this #!/bin/sh line to it?
[01:50] <sonics> its gonna work?
[01:50] <kitche> sonics: yea you need that also at the top of it
[01:50] <indref> ksl, I see Name Matches Regular Expression and Name Does Not Contain, but no Name Contains
[01:50] <ks1> UKMatt: did you get it? it wont find any m4a files if you dont have any on your ubuntu install
[01:51] <cafuego> indref: You could try switching resolutions, see if there's one that works
[01:51] <Mad3Max3> I was wondering about soundcard and such. Im gonna have my sound output by a s-pdif.. so I get digital and can send it to my receiver. is there any setting or packages I have to install for that.. I think i've read something about doing something with ALSA..
[01:51] <indref> cafuego, I can only get one resolution to work on my machine.
[01:51] <jrib> AdamMK: right
[01:51] <UKMatt> ksl, oh i have plenty, they're mixed in but I don't have the same search program as you for some reason
[01:51] <ks1> indref: sorry i'm on edgy, probably makes a difference :P
[01:51] <sonics> kitche: ok, where do I set a link to that file then?
[01:51] <indref> ksl, Maybe.
[01:51] <ks1> UKMatt: i'm on edgy, might make a difference.
[01:51] <AdamMK> jrib: does that command get ALL depencies recomended and required? is there a way to get just the required?
[01:51] <LjL> Mad3Max3: oh... just type "nvidia-settings".
[01:51] <UKMatt> ksl, aw yeah, i think they changed to Beagle search in edgy
[01:52] <AdamMK> dependancies*
[01:52] <UKMatt> ksl, I'll wait a week
[01:52] <ks1> UKMatt: Yeah. I've been running edgy since knot 1
[01:52] <cafuego> and beagle won't find anything without an index
[01:52] <Mad3Max3> LjL.. nice.. :)
[01:52] <UKMatt> indref, does soundconverter need a plugin for .mp3?
[01:52] <indref> UKMatt, I don't know.
[01:52] <UKMatt> ksl, I put on knot 2 and it was buggy, and I'm not THAT great with ub so I missed my automatix, and changed back
[01:52] <jrib> AdamMK: it installs the deps that are required to build the package
[01:52] <ks1> either way with Name Matches Regular Expression, you can put *.m4a and it should work.
[01:53] <kitche> sonics: well there should be a local script in /etc/init.d but did you add it to the run level folder or just inside init.d
[01:53] <sonics> its located in /etc/init.d/
[01:54] <ks1> UKMatt: you can try *.m4a in "Name matches Regular Expression" i dont know if that will work or not
[01:54] <sonics> kitche: is that ok, or do I need to link it in some file?!
[01:55] <Mad3Max3> LjL, what does your nvidia-settings says about your graphics processor? .. mine says C51 .. strange..
[01:55] <alex_> hello, i installed ubuntu.. and for some reason the package manager wont install open office-common
[01:55] <alex_> http://pastebin.ca/210750
[01:55] <alex_> it's a auto update
[01:55] <UKMatt> ksl, the search programs are completely different, it seems like the only option for mine is search part of the name of the file, which won't work
[01:56] <LjL> Mad3Max3: says GeForce FX 5200, which is what i have
[01:56] <Shadowthrone> How can I view my environment variables?#
[01:56] <kitche> sonics: you should have folders in /etc/init.d/ or don't you can't remember right now
[01:56] <LjL> Shadowthrone: "env"
[01:57] <Mad3Max3> LjL, I got a 6150.. strange that i doesn't say that.. maybe some setting I have to change
[01:57] <sonics> kitche: there are only files there
[01:57] <Shadowthrone> LjL: Awesome.
[01:57] <kitche> Shadowthrone: .bashrc for your user
[01:57] <ks1> UKMatt: sudo find / -name *.m4a
[01:57] <LjL> Mad3Max3: i don't know. i wouldn't worry too much, as long as everything works, though
[01:57] <kitche> sonics: ok that's fine then you shouldn't have to link it
[01:57] <sonics> ok im gonna go and check if it works then :)
[01:57] <ks1> UKMatt: type that in terminal
[01:57] <barktpolar> Does the instLinux program install Ubuntu with GRUB?
[01:57] <sonics> brb, hopefully ! Thnx kitche
[01:58] <ks1> UKMatt: it will take a minute or so for the command to finish but it will search your system for any filenames that have .m4a
[01:58] <alex_> hello, i installed ubuntu.. and for some reason the package manager wont install open office-common
[01:58] <alex_> http://pastebin.ca/210750
[01:58] <Shadowthrone> How can I then change them?
[01:58] <ww2> I'm having major instability issues with XGL/Beryl... first with the current version, when with the SVN ones. All the suddenly it will just freeze (become unresponsive), and the only way to get out is ctrl + alt + backspace or pressing the reset button. I have a Radeon 9600 XT. Anyone had or is having similar problems?
[01:59] <LjL> ks1, UKMatt: perhaps make that "-iname *.m4a", if you might have any files with the extension in uppercase
[01:59] <Shadowthrone> And add more?
[01:59] <LjL> !xgl > ww2
[01:59] <LjL> Shadowthrone: "export VARIABLENAME=value"
[01:59] <ww2> LjL, what do you want me to do with those urls? I've already installed and configured everything.
[01:59] <ks1> LjL: yes that will work :)
[02:00] <Shadowthrone> LjL: Awesome.
[02:00] <ww2> LjL, thanks anyway
[02:00] <LjL> ww2, just trying to tell you that the right channel for XGL etc. support is #ubuntu-xgl
[02:00] <barktpolar> Does it?
[02:00] <ww2> LjL, I asked there too.
[02:00] <quux> Silly thing: my ubuntu (on thinkpad t42) is no longer recognizing the shift key or the capslock key! Not a hardware error because both work in a vmware guest session on the same machine ..
[02:00] <Mad3Max3> LjL, is there any package for tweaking the GPU.. like radligth on XP?
[02:00] <timothy> i need help with my broadcom wifi
[02:00] <ks1> UKMatt: did that work for you? find anything?
[02:00] <ww2> LjL, it's just that there is approximately 8 times more people here...
[02:01] <LjL> Mad3Max3: "tweaking" = what?   anyway, "apt-cache search nvclock" and be very careful.
[02:01] <LjL> ww2, yes, but people using XGL will normally hang in #ubuntu-xgl as well
[02:01] <ww2> LjL, ok =]
[02:02] <LjL> ww2: people who aim for a sanely stable system simply don't use XGL ;)
[02:02] <spiderworm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279705 <--- laptop headphones detection issues.... any ideas on fixing something like this?
[02:02] <ww2> LjL, yeah, I tought about AIGLX, which is supposed to be more stable, but then the open source driver which it requires doesn't have proper 3d acceleration
[02:03] <LjL> ww2, actually, Beryl and friends themselves are extremely experimental stuff
[02:03] <Mad3Max3> LjL, ok.. nvclock..
[02:03] <Chippy> hey, I'm trying to get XGL+Compiz to work on my box (amd64, nvidia geforce 6800gt), but can't seem to get it to work... I just tried this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 but when I try restarting gdm nothing starts, and I get a normal gnome desktop... xgl isn't running, compiz is but is defunct... ideas?
[02:03] <ww2> I know, but people seem to have GLX pretty stable... don't see lots of complaints on that
[02:03] <ww2> I mean XGL
[02:03] <LjL> !xgl > chippy
[02:03] <Chippy> LjL: ?
[02:04] <LjL> Chippy: you have a private message
[02:04] <Mad3Max3> the newest Firefox in edgy.. don't like it.. and none of the themes and addons work.. :(
[02:04] <spiderworm> xgl & compiz work well for me... it freezes sometimes, but not enough to make me stop using it
[02:04] <ks1> Mad3Max3: bon echo is ok.. but sucks for sure :P
[02:04] <LjL> well, having your X server "freeze sometimes" is considered as something very serious by a few people.
[02:05] <spiderworm> *nod*
[02:05] <Chippy> LjL: tried the howto's linked there, and ubuntu-xgl is dead
[02:05] <barktpolar> Quux, I did'nt know you go here?
[02:06] <Mad3Max3> ks1, I like my iFox theme.. and the tabs addons.. well.. they will come I guess..
[02:06] <Cymage> quux is everywhere
[02:06] <Shadowthrone> Okay, I installed Sun's jdk and would like to create an environment variable JDK_HOME, but don't know where to point it to.
[02:06] <lws> hum
[02:06] <lws> I have universe enabled on edgy but can't find the package libdvdplay0
[02:06] <lws> according to packages.ubuntu.com it exists
[02:06] <Mad3Max3> only 2 workspaces in edgy., how do I set it too 4 as it should be?
[02:06] <quux> barktpolar: I idle here
[02:07] <ks1> Mad3Max3: right click..
[02:07] <quux> anyway, I solved my keyboard prob; thanks to anyone who thought about it
[02:07] <ks1> Mad3Max3: right click.. preferences...
[02:07] <ks1> barktpolar: that would definitely complete a sentence?
[02:07] <timothy> i need help with my broadcom wifi
[02:08] <LjL> lws: it's there. have you run "sudo apt-get update" after adding universe? anyway, #ubuntu+1 is the channel for Edgy question
[02:08] <Cymage> Timsen, ndiswrapper
[02:08] <barktpolar> that would definitely work I meant to end it with
[02:08] <spiderworm> lol, #ubuntu+1 ... i like that
[02:08] <Cymage> timothy, ^^
[02:08] <lws> LjL: yeah I did
[02:09] <lws> LjL: does Ign mean ignore?
[02:09] <LjL> lws, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[02:09] <DarthVineman> Anyone know how I can get the old xchat back? I updated ubuntu and I dont like XChat-GNOME
[02:09] <Cymage> timothy, i am running the bcm4318 and ndiswrapper was a breaze
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> is there any config for nvidia soundcard.. graphical i mean..?
[02:09] <LjL> lws: where?
[02:09] <lws> LjL: when aptitude update is run
[02:09] <timothy> Cymage: i have a bcm4309
[02:09] <gnomefreak> lws: yes
[02:09] <LjL> lws: oh, i'm not sure.
[02:10] <LjL> lws: anyway, just put your sources.list into the pastebin, i feel you might not have enabled universe correctly
[02:10] <timothy> Cymage: i have tried ndiswrapper aleady
[02:10] <DarthVineman> Anyone know how I can get the old xchat back? I updated ubuntu and I dont like XChat-GNOME
[02:10] <Cymage> I would still use ndiswrapper, but could try the broadcom firmware thing. i dont remember what it was called
[02:10] <lws> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27397/
[02:10] <gnomefreak> lws: it may go back and hit them towards the end or there is a problem with either your sources.list or the repo
[02:10] <clearzen> How much of a  difference will your router make for connection speeds using ssh?
[02:10] <ks1> Mad3Max3: as far as configuring how/
[02:10] <LjL> DarthVineman: there is the plain "xchat" package, but it's in universe.
[02:10] <barktpolar> Who uses DD in here anyway?
[02:10] <lws> gnomefreak: Software Sources setup my sources.list so hrm
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lws: try getting rid of non-free free
[02:11] <LjL> lws, that sources.list looks terrible... you should at least have security repositories enabled!
[02:11] <len> Hi, I couldnt install Ubuntu 6.10 in my friend's compute so I instaled 5.10 How can I upgrade it to 6.10???
[02:11] <len> please
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lws: thats not really a sources.list :(
[02:11] <lws> gnomefreak: K, still does "Ign blah"
[02:11] <LjL> lws, and i don't think we have "free" and "non-free" components
[02:11] <gnomefreak> LjL: lnope
[02:11] <lws> LjL: Is there a security repository for edgy?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lws: did you run sudo apt-get update
[02:11] <LjL> !repos > lws
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> ks1, like how it should operate.. soundsettings.. and outs and ins.. all that stuff..
[02:12] <gnomefreak> lws: join #ubuntu+1 please
[02:12] <ks1> Mad3Max3: there is the volume control up in the right hand corner, you can select most if not all through there.
[02:12] <timothy> cymage: i think i know what you are talking about but i tried it and it does not want to work
[02:12] <ks1> Mad3Max3: in terminal you can also type "alsamixer" and adjust through there. be care ful what you are adjusting.
[02:13] <lws> I hate pasting on linux, i really do
[02:13] <lws> there's like three different clipboards
[02:13] <LjL> lws: there is two
[02:13] <gnomefreak> lws: join #ubuntu+1 now for edgy
[02:13] <Cymage> timothy, then the only other option is to blacklist the bcm43xx native driver and use ndiswrapper
[02:13] <Mad3Max3> ks1, yeah I saw that one. it left me quite unsatisfied thou.. I like it to be more! :)
[02:13] <LjL> lws: and if you just avoid using middle click pasting, then it becomes just like on windows ;)
[02:13] <ks1> more graphical? :P
[02:13] <Cymage> ndiswrapper wont work till u blacklist the native
[02:13] <timothy> ok
[02:14] <Mad3Max3> ks1, alsamixer.. ok. is that a graphical interface,,?
[02:14] <Cymage> timothy, u want a link to step by step?
[02:14] <lws> LjL: but it's not.  I select the url in my gterm, right click copy it, right-click-paste into firefox and get something different
[02:14] <timothy> Cymage: will this work? echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:14] <ks1> Mad3Max3: it is ncurses/dialog based. its not pretty but it will get the job done :P
[02:14] <Mad3Max3> ks1, ok
[02:14] <ks1> rhythmbox, why must you be mean :( crashes after so long of streaming internet radio
[02:15] <LjL> lws: that shouldn't happen. it might happen if you set your system to only have *one* clipboard that is shared with the select-middleclick-clipboard... i don't think that should happen by default, though. it's just an option i have in KDE
[02:15] <Cymage> timothy, not sure. not the way i did it.
[02:15] <Shadowthrone> I installed Sun's jdk but would like to create an environment variable that points to it... only I don't know where it's installed. How can I found out? Or rather, where is it?
[02:15] <len> Hi, I couldnt install Ubuntu 6.10 in my friend's compute so I instaled 5.10 How can I upgrade it to 6.10??? Some1 help me plz
[02:16] <LjL> len: 6.10 (Edgy) isn't released yet (though it will be in a couple of days). the current version is 6.06 (Dapper).
[02:16] <jrib> ubotu: tell len about upgrade
[02:16] <lws> LjL: I'm in gnome
[02:16] <timothy> Cymage: could you give me a link to the wizard?
[02:16] <len> LjL: so 6.06
[02:16] <len> sorry
[02:16] <barktpolar> !ubotu Upgrading
[02:16] <timothy> i will be back in a hour or so.
[02:16] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:16] <timothy> thanks
[02:16] <LjL> lws: well i don't have gnome installed, but it would strike me as strange if the two clipboards were synced by default still...
[02:17] <Cymage> timothy, wizard?
[02:18] <bruffy> hi peeps
[02:18] <ks1> Mad3Max3: did you check out alsamixer?
[02:18] <bruffy> does somebody knows how to install skype?
[02:19] <Cymage> timothy, this link has step by step for ndiswrapper along with other stuff. http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html
[02:19] <GhostFreeman> I'm trying to write a bash script that would send a file via scp over to another server. How would I send a password to the password prompt during execution?
[02:19] <Mad3Max3> ks1, yes..
[02:19] <LjL> !skype > bruffy
[02:19] <Shadowthrone> How can I remove environment variables?
[02:19] <Mad3Max3> ks1, only volume settings there.. I will search in apt-file to see if I can find any packages
[02:19] <kitche> !skype > bruffy
[02:20] <ks1> Mad3Max3: You can set other stuff than volume.
[02:20] <bruffy> in terminal?
[02:20] <ks1> Mad3Max3: atleast with my SB, there are about 30 settings
[02:20] <El> !skype
[02:20] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:20] <bruffy> !skype
[02:21] <ChickenTalons> skype actually works on LInux too
[02:21] <bruffy> thx
[02:21] <amicrawle> what is the command to see whats in my network ring ?
[02:21] <mattjunx> I've got an issue with edgy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27400/
[02:21] <Mad3Max3> ks1, what kind of settings do u have?
[02:21] <Rug> mattjunx: goto #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <mattjunx> okay
[02:21] <Mad3Max3> ks1, can u set freqvens and stuff..
[02:22] <mattjunx> /leave
[02:22] <mattjunx> er
[02:22] <mattjunx> bye
[02:22] <Hail_Spacecake> how do I run a graphical KDE program as root?
[02:22] <Moosebuntu> how do I query the size of /dev/hda ?
[02:22] <Hail_Spacecake> assuming I odn't know the command line command that normally opens it?
[02:22] <ryanakca> from command line (bash), how would I replace all ' ' (spaces) in a file name by '_' (underscore)?
[02:22] <ks1> Mad3Max3: not freqvens, i have a lot of the linein/lineout, video, IEC958, C,L,0,T and other stuff
[02:23] <El> !ntfs
[02:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:23] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake, find out the command line first. if the program's in the K menu, you can right click on the K menu, do "Menu editor", and find out the command's name.
[02:23] <LjL> !kdesu > Hail_Spacecake
[02:23] <Chippy> hey, the VNC viewer that's installed by default in Ubuntu, is there any way to remove the confirmation when users connect (so I can connect when no one is around)
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> heh, "kdesu"
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> the KDE japanese copula :)
[02:24] <Mad3Max3> ks1, ok
[02:24] <kitche> Chippy: don't think you can in the one installed by default
[02:24] <Shadowthrone> Does anyone here use IntelliJ IDEA?
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> hmm, I tried that
[02:24] <jrib> Chippy: system > preferences > remote desktop lets you choose that
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> and it still says that you have insufficient permissions because you didn't run it with sudo
[02:25] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: which program is that?
[02:25] <Hail_Spacecake> wlassistant
[02:25] <Hail_Spacecake> @ LjL
[02:26] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake, what does it say exactly? wlassistant AFAIK doesn't even normally *need* to be run as root, so it'd strike me as strange if it complained that you didn't run it with sudo
[02:26] <andy> Hi all, I am trying to install 'smbfs' and I get this error after apt-get: smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed, can someone help me?
[02:26] <JaytheGreat> hey all
[02:27] <jewbilee> anyone have any cool tips or trick for a ubuntu noob?
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> LjL: when I run it normally, it says "You might have insufficient permissions for Wireless assistant to function properly. Did you run it using sudo?"
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> and hten it gives an okay box to go to the main program
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> but it doesn't find any networks
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> and I'm pretty sure that ubuntu is actually detecting my network card, because it shows up in /sbin/iwconfig
[02:27] <jrib> jewbilee: yes, press alt-f2 and type "free the fish" without quotes
[02:28] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: it doesn't ask me that, but then that might be because i don't *have* a wireless card... try plain "sudo wlassistant" perhaps. though "kdesu wlassistant" should be fine if not better :-\
[02:28] <Hail_Spacecake> apparantly, sudo'ing KDE apps is bad
[02:28] <Hail_Spacecake> I don't know why
[02:28] <Hail_Spacecake> or what will happen if I try it
[02:28] <jewbilee> jrib
[02:28] <jewbilee> what does that do?
[02:28] <kitche> Hail_Spaceckae: your suppose to use gtksudo
[02:29] <kitche> opsp gksudo not gtksudo
[02:29] <jrib> jewbilee: it puts a fish on your desktop named wanda!
[02:29] <LjL> kitche: err, not under KDE...
[02:29] <G0oW> what's a good irc client for ubuntu?
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> gksudo?
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> alright
[02:29] <jrib> G0oW: xchat, irssi
[02:29] <andy> Xchat
[02:29] <G0oW> ty
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> command not found
[02:29] <Rug> G0oW irssi
[02:29] <G0oW> <gaim right now =X
[02:29] <LjL> !good
[02:29] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:29] <kitche> LjL: well it should run it's own version of it then which it seems to me like it's not doing it
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> wait, isn't gksudo the GNOME command?
[02:30] <Hail_Spacecake> I have KDE
[02:30] <jewbilee> how do i make it go away now..
[02:30] <jewbilee> lol
[02:30] <jrib> jewbilee: lol idk
[02:30] <BlueEagle> g0ow: I recomend irssi because despite being less intuitive it's easier to set up on a remote server and connect to from any workstation.
[02:30] <andy>  Hi all, I am trying to install 'smbfs' and I get this error after apt-get: smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed, can someone help me?
[02:30] <jrib> jewbilee: just kidding, 'killall gnome-panel' in a terminal is the only way I know of or logout and back in
[02:30] <jewbilee> wow...
[02:30] <G0oW> ty, blueEagle
[02:30] <jewbilee> ok
[02:30] <jewbilee> hahha
[02:30] <G0oW> ill try it out ;]
[02:31] <LjL> andy: try typing "sudo apt-get update" and then trying again
[02:31] <andy> ok
[02:31] <G0oW> austin, eh?
[02:31] <G0oW> that's close to me
[02:31] <G0oW> =]
[02:31] <eimajenthat> anyone tried the new edgy eft RC?
[02:31] <LjL> !edgy
[02:31] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:31] <andy> LjL: same problem after update
[02:31] <joeCoT> So did anyone hear that there's _already_ an exploit for ie7?
[02:32] <_azrael> !schedule > me
[02:32] <Rug> joeCoT: yeah
[02:32] <strabes> yeah i read that on digg
[02:32] <LjL> andy: type "apt-cache policy smbfs" and tell me what version it gives you
[02:32] <jewbilee> damn ie...
[02:32] <Shadowthrone> How might I remove an environment variable entirely?
[02:32] <strabes> it's proprietary - it can never be as good as FOSS
[02:32] <Moosebuntu> how do I query the size of a hard drive on my Ubuntu system?
[02:32] <bmk789_> df -h
[02:32] <jewbilee> strabes
[02:32] <jewbilee> FOSS
[02:32] <Moosebuntu> The properties doesn't give this info
[02:32] <jewbilee> what is that?
[02:32] <jrib> Shadowthrone: set it equal to nothing export foo=
[02:32] <jewbilee> free open source software?
[02:32] <Chippy> another question: right now I have no "super key" and my keyboard "Layout Options" are blank... can anyone help?
[02:32] <kitche> Shadowthrone: did you put it in your .bashrc or just in the commandline
[02:32] <strabes> jewbilee: FOSS = free open source software
[02:32] <jewbilee> thought so
[02:32] <strabes> indeed
[02:32] <andy> LjL: 3.0.22-1ubuntu3 0
[02:32] <Shadowthrone> kitche: command line
[02:32] <strabes> i like it :)
[02:33] <jewbilee> oss is the way to go
[02:33] <Max_-> When I try to edit files in /var/www, they only open read only.. how do I get the rights to edit them.. ?
[02:33] <jewbilee> im just not good enough to edit it
[02:33] <jewbilee> all i know is java
[02:33] <strabes> i dont know anything about programming
[02:33] <jrib> Max_-: use sudo
[02:33] <cafuego> OSS is crap, use ALSA.
[02:33] <Rug> Max_-: sudo nano /file/you/want
[02:33] <LjL> andy: that sounds wrong, it should be 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1. paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please
[02:33] <jrib> ubotu: tell Max_- about sudo
[02:33] <andy> ok
[02:34] <RichardCranium> anyone, does ubuntu-desktop uninstall if you remove the gnome-screensaver package?
[02:34] <Max_-> jrib, Rug, I mean in GNOME...
[02:34] <cafuego> RichardCranium: probably
[02:34] <jrib> Max_-: gksudo gedit /var/www/foo
[02:34] <Mad3Max3> have a question.. is there something like activiteshandler like on XP on ubuntu.. u know when u press.. ctrl-alt-delete.. so I can see processes that are running and memroy usage
[02:34] <Rug> Max_-: it's easiest from a command line
[02:34] <LjL> Mad3Max3: ctrl+esc works on KDE, i'm not sure it works under Gnome as well
[02:34] <harisund> Hello! I often change my shells in my temrinal.. how do I find out easily if I am inside bash or tcsh?
[02:35] <strabes> mad3max3: you can type 'top' in console and it shows you all processes running
[02:35] <andy> LjL: alright I pated
[02:35] <LjL> harisund: echo $SHELL
[02:35] <LjL> andy: URL please
[02:35] <Max_-> Rug, I know but I ged mad when I type  like characters and they don't display good cuz of Nano or any other kind of reason...
[02:35] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: gnome-system-monitor
[02:35] <andy> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27404/
[02:35] <Mad3Max3> LjL, well ctrl-esc do nothing
[02:35] <Rug> Max_-: then swap nano for the editor of your choice.
[02:35] <Max_-> jrib trying this... but that'll get me crazy too to have to type the name of the file each time... if I wanna modify 50 files I should be able to click on them and modify them simply
[02:36] <Mad3Max3> cafuego.. is there a short command to start that?
[02:36] <Moosebuntu> Filesystem Properties: "Size: unknown"
[02:36] <strabes> mad3max3: gnome-system-monitor
[02:36] <Moosebuntu> :(
[02:36] <jrib> Max_-: then change the permissions on /var/www
[02:36] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: I tend to add the apple to the panel and just click on that
[02:36] <Max_-> jrib that was the point of the initial question
[02:36] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Right click panel, add to panel -> System Monitor
[02:37] <G0oW> brb
[02:37] <G0oW> bye <3
[02:37] <LjL> andy, that is wrong. you have enabled the Universe and Multiverse components for the "dapper" repository, but you've neglected to do the same for "dapper-updates" and "dapper-security". do that.
[02:37] <jrib> Max_-: you have to be specific :)  chgrp would be the best way to do it, then just add yourself to the group
[02:37] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, can I terminate processes there aswell. and how do I terminate a process in terminal.. do I use kill?
[02:37] <andy> LjL: alright, I shall report back
[02:37] <LjL> andy: then run sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <Max_-> jrib yeah, sorry :P
[02:37] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Of course, System -> Control Panel -> Keyboard SHortcuts
[02:37] <strabes> mad3max3: use sudo killall processname
[02:38] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Yup, right click 'em.
[02:38] <prestosd> u busy or can someone help me fix a problem?
[02:38] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Or simply right click a window and choose 'close'.
[02:38] <strabes> prestosd: just ask :)
[02:38] <jrib> Max_-: chgrp -R www-data /var/www    would recursively make all the stuff in www-data belong to the www-data group (which probably exists)
[02:38] <prestosd> k
[02:38] <scenestar> lo room
[02:38] <Max_-> jrib thanks I was about to ask :)
[02:39] <scenestar> ive got an annoing problem with xchat
[02:39] <prestosd> I'm having trouble installing mzscheme
[02:39] <andy> LjL: alright, it worked, thankyou for the help.
[02:39] <scenestar> all links are opened in konqueror instead of firefox
[02:39] <jrib> Max_-: then just add your user to the group: adduser your_username www-data   (you need sudo for all this stuff by the way)
[02:39] <scenestar> ive checked my gconf and and set all associaions in kcontrol to firefox
[02:39] <strabes> scenestar: system, preferences, preferred applications
[02:39] <scenestar> can someone explain what the hell is going on
[02:39] <Max_-> jrib okay great! thanks a lot :D
[02:39] <scenestar> strabes
[02:39] <Gnomer__> Haha, scenestar?
[02:39] <jrib> Max_-: np
[02:40] <scenestar> set
[02:40] <strabes> scenestar: what?
[02:40] <Gnomer__> scenestar, are you from HTS?
[02:40] <scenestar> its set to firefox
[02:40] <scenestar> Gnomer__ yeah
[02:40] <scenestar> im admin there
[02:40] <Gnomer__> scenestar, HAHA
[02:40] <Gnomer__> Yeah, I know.
[02:40] <Gnomer__> <-- Patch
[02:40] <scenestar> hih there patch
[02:40] <Gnomer__> 'Lo.
[02:40] <jrib> scenestar: try 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser'
[02:40] <scenestar> i set up the FBSD rootthisbox jail
[02:40] <Gnomer__> scenestar, really? Awesome.
[02:40] <prestosd> can someone help me fix a problem with mzscheme
[02:41] <Gnomer__> 'bout time some one whipped HTS back into shape :P
[02:41] <scenestar> jrib well that was pretty fucking obvious
[02:41] <Gnomer__> Still stayin' out of it though.
[02:41] <Chippy> right now I have no "super key" and my keyboard "Layout Options" are blank... can anyone help?
[02:41] <prestosd> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH A PROBLEM!
[02:41] <scenestar> good point Gnomer__ , still though, there will be root contests soon enough
[02:41] <jrib> prestosd: just ask your question, if someone can help, they will try
[02:41] <Gnomer__> Anyway, cool seein' ya scenestar
[02:42] <Mad3Max3> where do I check which programs and services that gets started when I boot into ubuntu. looks like I have a couple that I don't need.. like gnome-power-manager
[02:42] <Gnomer__> scenestar, Need me at any time for help, find me here ;)
[02:42] <scenestar> prestosd , try using bolds with capslock, it attracts more attention
[02:42] <scenestar> allright
[02:42] <whyso> is there a way to watch windows media player stuff in firefox?
[02:42] <scenestar> you still on xelix?
[02:42] <LjL> !caps > prestosd
[02:42] <Gnomer__> scenestar, nah.
[02:42] <Comrade_S> whyso: mplayer
[02:42] <Gnomer__> I moved myself away from HTS and anything related.
[02:42] <prestosd> Whenever I try to install any thing it gives me an error
[02:42] <jrib> whyso: sure, I like mplayer-plugin.  But totem-xine-plugin should work too
[02:42] <Mad3Max3> feels like a waste of memey having stuff runnung I don't need and that I can't use..
[02:42] <prestosd> about mzscheme
[02:42] <whyso> k thanx
[02:42] <prestosd> !caps
[02:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:42] <strabes> mad3max3: here is a tutorial  for that: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot be careful with it though
[02:42] <prestosd> lol
[02:43] <scenestar> Gnomer__ , you still a phreaker?
[02:43] <scenestar> what drove you away?
[02:43] <Mad3Max3> Strabes.. ooo.. thanks.. that was what I was loking for.
[02:43] <strabes> mad3max3: np
[02:43] <LjL> talking about illegal activities is not welcome here i'm afraid
[02:43] <lumgwada> hi I'm setting up ssh keys (ala http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/ ) and have everything working except ssh-agent integrated into the xsession. Can anyone suggest what I need to modify in the config file so it sits pretty with ubuntu's XSession startup.
[02:43] <Max_-> jrib .. that's weird... it still opens readonly :S
[02:43] <Gnomer__> scenestar, Answer to question 1) yes. and to question 2) HTS keeps changing owners, there WERE powerstuggles.
[02:43] <prestosd> illegal?
[02:43] <scenestar> aye
[02:43] <Gnomer__> Plus I don't like half the people that run that show.
[02:43] <scenestar> whats illigal?>
[02:43] <jrib> Max_-: you need to logout with your user and back in for the group membership tot ake effect
[02:44] <scenestar> LjL , im a hacker
[02:44] <scenestar> arrest me
[02:44] <Gnomer__> LjL, no one is talkin' about illegal activites, we're talkin' about professions.
[02:44] <prestosd> every linux user is a "hacker"
[02:44] <Max_-> ohhh .. ok
[02:44] <Gnomer__> Now, if I went on how to do something, it would be illegal.
[02:44] <LjL> scenestar, calm down. it's my impression that phreaking is illegal, i might be mistaken.
[02:44] <Mad3Max3> If I have spell bad. it's beacuse of my keyboard.. I tipped a cup of coffee into it today! only had one sip and then down into the keys.. so it's a semiworking keyboard now! :D
[02:44] <Comrade_S> depends on where you live
[02:44] <scenestar> hey, i just got a leet 0day to trade for a botnet <<< illigal
[02:44] <Luke> How do I make my monitor shut off after 10 min? I have gnome-screensaver
[02:45] <scenestar> Luke , set screen to blank
[02:45] <scenestar> in the settings pannel
[02:45] <jrib> Luke: system > preferences > power management
[02:45] <Gnomer__> LjL, me and scenestar practice the art of defrauding of security of computers and telephones. For pentesting (At least for me)
[02:45] <Luke> scenestar: it *does* go blank it just leaves the backlight on
[02:45] <Gnomer__> I'll keep illegal stuff to a minimum, promise.
[02:45] <Luke> jrib: i've set that and it doesnt seem to matter
[02:46] <scenestar> why the hell would i blurt illigal things out in a public channel
[02:46] <LjL> Gnomer__, scenestar: alright, i still think you should probably keep that kind of discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic though
[02:46] <Gnomer__> Anyway, Scenestar. AIM/Yahwhore/MSN?
[02:46] <RichardCranium> Gnomer__, why not tell the channel you deal methamphetamines while you're at it? j/k
[02:46] <AsheD> how can I add custom icons?
[02:46] <scenestar> Gnomer__
[02:46] <Gnomer__> RichardCranium, :P
[02:46] <scenestar> stfu
[02:46] <scenestar> i happen to be a tweaker
[02:47] <gstevens> sry to spoil the fun hear, but is there anyone that could help me out with xgl?  I followed the steps on the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219336&highlight=ati+xgl thread, and when I try to boot xgl session, I get the following away message "No Exec line in session file .xgl"  It would be sweet if someone could help, if not alright thanks
[02:47] <Gnomer__> scenestar, don't mind it XD Just notice me a messenger I can harass you on.
[02:47] <RichardCranium> scenestar, why not just drink a pot of coffee
[02:47] <jrib> Gnomer__, scenestar: #ubuntu is just for support because of the high traffic.  The non-support should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <Gnomer__> RichardCranium, "Cocaine", the energy drink.
[02:47] <scenestar> allright im off, Gnomer__ ill talk to you on AIM
[02:48] <enyawix> i have a working install now
[02:48] <RichardCranium> Gnomer__, #ubuntu-offtopic plz , im in there evading bans so we can chat there
[02:48] <G0oW> what is ubuntu breezy, and ubuntu Hoary?
[02:48] <enyawix> is the nvida driver part of the distro?
[02:48] <scenestar> no
[02:48] <scenestar> it isnt
[02:48] <scenestar> its part of the unofficail distros
[02:48] <G0oW> im trying to DL fluxbox
[02:48] <G0oW> and im not sure which one to go for.
[02:49] <G0oW> will someone help me?=P
[02:49] <gstevens> no it is ubuntu dapper  -- not nvida
[02:49] <enyawix> unoffical ?
[02:49] <joeCoT> G0oW: no, sorry. that's not what the ubuntu support channel is for
[02:49] <enyawix> how do i install
[02:49] <LjL> !nvidia > enyawix
[02:49] <jrib> Gnomer__: breezy and hoary are different versions of ubuntu
[02:49] <LjL> enyawix, the faster nvidia driver is not open source software, but it is included in the official repositories.
[02:49] <jrib> G0oW: breezy and hoary are different versions of ubuntu
[02:50] <strabes> g0ow: breezy is the version before dapper, and hoary is the version before breezy
[02:50] <Gnomer__> jrib, :/ I know this.
[02:50] <jrib> Gnomer__: yes, wrong name sorry :)
[02:50] <Gnomer__> :P
[02:50] <cafuego> G0oW: Pick the latest one (Dapper if you can)
[02:50] <agentcy> whens edgy due out?
[02:50] <cafuego> agentcy: next week
[02:50] <enyawix> so not on dserect
[02:50] <LjL> !schedule > agentcy
[02:50] <G0oW> there is not one for Dapper
[02:50] <strabes> agentcy: it comes out next thurs the 26th
[02:50] <agentcy> thx
[02:50] <LogicalDash> How do I install the Linux source packages?
[02:51] <cafuego> G0oW: Not what for dapper? fluxbox? it's *in* dapper.
[02:51] <jrib> G0oW: you mean fluxbox?
[02:51] <G0oW> yeah
[02:51] <cafuego> !info fluxbox
[02:51] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[02:51] <G0oW> =X
[02:51] <strabes> ubotu: tell strabes about fluxbox
[02:51] <gstevens>  is there anyone that could help me out with xgl?  I followed the steps on the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219336&highlight=ati+xgl thread, and when I try to boot xgl session, I get the following away message "No Exec line in session file .xgl"  It would be sweet if someone could help, if not alright thanks
[02:51] <G0oW> sorry, lol
[02:51] <cafuego> G0oW: If you're on dapper, 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox'
[02:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell gstevens about xgl
[02:51] <joeCoT> G0ox: have you tried Xubuntu?
[02:52] <G0oW> nope, Ubuntu is my first
[02:52] <G0oW> i am trying to use a variety until i find the one i like
[02:52] <LjL> !xgl > gstevens
[02:52] <G0oW> i figured that ubuntu would be the best first step
[02:52] <strabes> !info fluxbox
[02:52] <LjL> sorry jrib
[02:52] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[02:52] <G0oW> ty, catuege
[02:52] <nomasteryoda|w> G0oW, good choice
[02:52] <G0oW> caf*
[02:52] <ww2-> Is it possible to "switch" between two different ATI video drivers (open source and proprietary)?
[02:53] <G0oW> brb
[02:53] <amunbu> !info fluxbox
[02:53] <LjL> ww2-: yes, just change the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X
[02:53] <strabes> ww2-: yes you can change them in your xorg.conf
[02:53] <jrib> LjL: no need to apologize I think ubotu doesn't double send info anyway
[02:53] <RichardCranium> ww2-, not without stopping your gui
[02:53] <joeCoT> G0oW. Xubuntu is Xfce for ubuntu. it's just a differnt desktop environment, which you can install from in ubuntu. http://www.xubuntu.org/
[02:53] <LjL> jrib: if they're sent too close together, no
[02:53] <ww2-> can I have a different xorg.conf for a certain Xsession?
[02:54] <G0oW> ty, joeCoT
[02:54] <G0oW> brb
[02:54] <gstevens> any help?
[02:54] <El> My Windows XP installation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but that's getting tricky, with the whole NTFS read/write driver issue. (I haven't been able to successfully install NTFS-3G). So any suggestions on how to save my files?
[02:54] <kismet_> El, use a windows boot disk?
[02:54] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to install the ieee90221 subsystem, and it wants me to install the "Linux kernel source". I'm not quite sure what it's talking about, but it's supposed to be in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/ . Any help?
[02:54] <LjL> gstevens, XGL etc. help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:55] <LogicalDash> *80221
[02:55] <rixth> "/dev/video0: Device or resource busy" << how can I find out what is using it?
[02:55] <El> kismet: I havnt managed to get into windows, iv tried repai installs and all sorts..
[02:55] <ww2-> This is my situation... I'm trying to run XGL with an ATI card plus decent stability... but fglrx drivers are unstable by nature. So I need OSS drivers XGL (or AIGLX, which I may install) and fglrx for playing games and running other 3d apps. How can I switch between the two drivers in the quickest, less troublesome manner?
[02:55] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[02:55] <hubuntu_______> EL is your external drive formatted as FAT or NTFS?
[02:55] <ww2-> Just changing xorg.conf manually each time won't do, really.
[02:56] <El> hubuntu: NTFS
[02:56] <LjL> rixth: lsof | grep video
[02:56] <LjL> ww2-: doesn't have to be manually, you could write a script. don't know if there's an easier way.
[02:56] <hubuntu_______> I found a really neat  how-to
[02:56] <El> Oh yes?
[02:56] <hubuntu_______> give me a sec i'll give you the url..
[02:56] <ww2-> LjL, I don't have a lot of experience in bash scripting =/
[02:57] <El> Awesome, thanks
[02:57] <pablo> hi, which is the bet graphic card for linux?
[02:57] <Max_-> jrib... that's no fun.. even rebooted the whole computer.. and it still opens read only    owner : root  group : www-data
[02:57] <pablo> best
[02:57] <rixth> LjL, thanks! I thought that only worked with disks
[02:57] <jrib> Max_-: what does 'groups' say
[02:57] <hubuntu_______> El... just for the record. You are runing from a breezy live cd right now, right?
[02:58] <Max_-> jrib, root
[02:58] <El> Ubuntu 6.06 liveCD
[02:58] <jrib> Max_-: I mean the command 'groups'
[02:58] <Max_-> jrib, yah
[02:58] <LjL> ww2-: assuming you have the xorg.conf for one driver as /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and the one for ther other in /etc/X11/xorg.conf-alternate, you may try something like    /etc/init.d/gdm stop;  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf-alternate /etc/X11/xorg.conf-current; mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-alternate; mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf-current /etc/X11/xorg.conf; /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:58] <jrib> Max_-: are you root?
[02:58] <hubuntu_______> sorry i ment edgy 6.06... ok. BRB
[02:58] <El> thanks
[02:58] <Max_-> jrib, gotta create the group I guess...  I did it while sudo -i, yes
[02:58] <pablo> hi, which is the best graphic card for linux?
[02:58] <ww2-> LjL, I'll take note of that. Thanks =)
[02:59] <jrib> Max_-: run it as your regular user
[02:59] <pablo> considering open source drivers
[02:59] <moot> is vncserver not in the default repositories?
[02:59] <ww2-> pablo, nvidia for certain... what model to choose will depend on what kind of performance you wanna have.
[02:59] <Max_-> jrib, max adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[02:59] <LjL> !info vncserver
[02:59] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[02:59] <LjL> moot: ^
[02:59] <Max_-> jrib, www-data is there.
[02:59] <moot> i have vnc-common installed, but vncserver doesn't appear to exist
[03:00] <LjL> moot: then you probably need to enable Universe
[03:00] <pablo> ww2-: does it has good open source drivers?
[03:00] <moot> ah, ok... thanks
[03:00] <LjL> !universe > moot
[03:00] <jrib> Max_-: yes it is.  What does 'ls -l /var/www/file_you_are_editing' say?
[03:00] <ww2-> pablo, yes... ATI's ones are just abysmal
[03:00] <[GuS] > Aurevoir...
[03:00] <Code-E> Is there a way to get quake2 in the repositories
[03:01] <LjL> pablo: even on NVidia cards, however, most people use the proprietary binary-only drivers, if they need good 3D acceleration.
[03:01] <Code-E> This is the only linux distro i know of that doesnt have quake2 in the packages
[03:01] <ww2-> pablo, I'm sorry... you asked for open source. I don't know
[03:01] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to set Kubuntu up to use my Intel 3945ABG wireless card. When I try to make the ieee80221 subsystem, it tells me that I'm missing something in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/. The INSTALL file says that there are supposed to be "linux kernel sources" here. What are these, and how can I get them?
[03:01] <ww2-> pablo, didn't read your question properly.
[03:01] <LjL> !info quake2
[03:01] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[03:01] <LjL> Code-E: ^
[03:01] <Max_-> jrib, -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data 86 2006-10-19 20:27 /var/www/DMV/text/product/fr.php
[03:01] <hubuntu_______> Remember... You are using a live CD and as such your system may vary from the described system, But give it a shot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[03:01] <Code-E> ok
[03:01] <jrib> Max_-: ah ok see the group doesn't have write permissions
[03:01] <LjL> !multiverse > code-e
[03:01] <Code-E> LjL what is the command do get it
[03:01] <Code-E> I have all the repositories selected
[03:02] <LjL> Code-E: "sudo apt-get install quake2", after enabling multiverse
[03:02] <Code-E> :S
[03:02] <hubuntu_______> good luck El... do you speak other languages? I found also a how-to in spanish. Which seems easier to me.
[03:02] <Code-E> I tried
[03:02] <Max_-> jrib,  ohh if I remember well its   owner,group,all  right?
[03:02] <LjL> Code-E: are you sure you have multiverse enabled correctly?
[03:02] <Code-E> yea
[03:02] <MrKeuner> hi, i am running a cronjob but not getting any action or the output. what might be a problem?
[03:02] <Code-E> settings, repositories
[03:02] <MrKeuner> syslog tells me that it was run
[03:02] <LjL> Code-E: and apt-get is not finding the packages?
[03:02] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:02] <Max_-> jrib, chmod g+w /var/www ??.. or something like this?
[03:02] <jrib> Max_-: right, so you will want to chmod -R +w /var/www
[03:02] <jrib> Max_-: ok we were both half right
[03:03] <Mad3Max3> is there a filebrowser like totalcommander for linux.. something similar...?
[03:03] <Code-E> Something is using adminstrative privalidges
[03:03] <LjL> Code-E: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[03:03] <jrib> Max_-: chmod -R g+w /var/www    the -R will make it recursive so it gets the files inside
[03:03] <Code-E> But I dont know what
[03:03] <cheesy> i have problems mounting with my CD/DVD Drive: Pioneer_DVD_ROM_ATAPIModel_DVD_120S
[03:03] <El> hubuntu: thanks, il see what i can manage :p
[03:03] <Max_-> jrib heheh okay, thanks a lot :)
[03:03] <LjL> Code-E: uh? is that an error message? if so, paste it to the pastebin as well
[03:03] <strabes> mad3max3: there's a few: pcmanfm, gnome commander, thunar
[03:03] <hubuntu_______> remember you are using 6.06 codename "Dapper Drake"
[03:04] <El> yep, thanks
[03:04] <cheesy> my other drive have no problems with the same disks
[03:04] <newpZ> hi i have a "NVIDIA Corporation NV15BR [GeForce2 Ultra, Bladerunner] " and the nvidia driver is not working, just nv.. any suggestions?
[03:04] <CheekyBoinc> Mad3Max3, tuxcommander , gnomecommander  etc:)
[03:04] <newpZ> i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[03:05] <Mad3Max3> CheekyBoinc, which one is best?
[03:05] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:05] <Code-E> LjL: http://pastebin.ca/210821
[03:06] <CheekyBoinc> I like the Tuxcommander.....test both :)
[03:06] <LjL> Code-E: i don't seem to see multiverse enabled. try adding the word "multiverse" at the end of lines 16 and 17, and then issuing a "sudo apt-get update"
[03:06] <moot> LjL: everything's good now, thanks for the help
[03:07] <hubuntu_______> newpZ use sudo aptitude and choose the right one or try System->Administration->Synaptic
[03:07] <zenlinuxNH> Where can I read up on some documentation regarding the changes to init in Edgy?
[03:07] <Code-E> so deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[03:07] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[03:07] <jrib> ubotu: tell zenlinuxNH about upstart
[03:07] <Code-E> Like that?
[03:07] <zenlinuxNH> thanks jrib
[03:07] <newpZ> hubuntu_______, right one what? its a nvidia card
[03:07] <hubuntu_______> zenlinux I was just reading James S.R.'s paper on the subject, but have not seen any documentation
[03:07] <hubuntu_______> try the launchpad specs
[03:08] <LjL> Code-E: yes. oh, also, do the same on lines 31 and 32 (security), and add "universe multiverse" to lines 6 and 7 (updates)
[03:08] <hubuntu_______> jrib...  Its just that it says its gonna download 118mb, which is gonna take ages lol. is it OK to skip that step?
[03:09] <HLM> !upstart
[03:09] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:09] <strabes> mad3max3: never used it; it looks good. it's twin panel like konqueror can be.
[03:09] <rixth> How can I stop khubd from taking 100% CPU, I can't even kill the damn process, it doesn't even respond to signal 9.
[03:09] <scorpio-brizing> hello i have a few new user questions  if anyone has time
[03:09] <strabes> mad3max3: just try out different ones and see which one you like
[03:09] <strabes> the problem is that the places menu doesn't want to work with them
[03:09] <jrib> !ask
[03:09] <strabes> scorpio-brizing: just ask!
[03:10] <rixth> !ask > scorpio-brizing
[03:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:10] <scorpio-brizing> ok i have a linmodem and i have an ATI hehe
[03:10] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:10] <scorpio-brizing> i got all the steps to make my US robotics 56k work but for some reason the command doesnt work in terminal
[03:10] <Code-E> LjL: so it should look like this:
[03:10] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[03:10] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[03:10] <Code-E> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[03:10] <Code-E> ## distribution.
[03:10] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[03:10] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[03:10] <Code-E> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[03:10] <jrib> ubotu: tell Code-E about paste
[03:10] <LjL> !paste
[03:10] <Code-E> ## repository.
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:10] <Code-E> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[03:10] <Code-E> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[03:10] <Code-E> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[03:10] <Code-E> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[03:10] <Eke> kick this mothafucka
[03:10] <Code-E> ## team.
[03:11] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[03:11] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[03:11] <strabes> mad3max3: krusader is a kde app - i dont like using kde apps with gnome but you can do w/e
[03:11] <Code-E> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[03:11] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, isnt that the PITS? it took me forever to get my monitor working correctly after that too
[03:11] <LjL> Eke: come again?
[03:11] <Code-E> ## repository.
[03:11] <Code-E> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[03:11] <newpZ> ummmmm
[03:11] <Code-E> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[03:11] <LjL> !ops
[03:11] <Code-E> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[03:11] <ubotu> Help!   Also saw now that Azureus is working in linux.. that cool
[03:11] <Code-E> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[03:11] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:11] <LjL> newpZ: no use insulting
[03:11] <jrib> heh he's almost done let him finish now
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ?
[03:11] <Eke> LjL: i didn't make a joke
[03:11] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: PITS? whast that?
[03:11] <nalioth> gnomefreak: got it
[03:11] <Code-E> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[03:11] <Code-E> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:11] <El> hey hubuntu- in that guide you gave me, is it necesary to do "sudo apt-get upgrade"? Its just that it says its gonna download 118mb, which is gonna take ages lol. is it OK to skip that step?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ok
[03:11] <mikeymike-linux> where does firefox keep its global plugins?
[03:11] <LjL> Eke: yeah, watch your language though please
[03:11] <Code-E> sorry
[03:11] <Code-E> jees sorry
[03:11] <jrib> mikeymike-linux: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[03:11] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, I believe its a slang reference to the pits of hell but I am not sure
[03:11] <newpZ> insulting rules
[03:11] <strabes> mad3max3: yeah azureus works well in linux. if you like krusader then use it lol whatever you want
[03:11] <Mad3Max3> strabes, why not KDE apps with gnome.. is there compatibile diffculties?
[03:11] <mikeymike-linux> thank you jrib
[03:11] <nalioth> Code-E: you will be able to talk in a few minutes
[03:11] <LjL> newpZ: maybe, but not on this channel
[03:11] <scorpio-brizing> ok for my first noob question how do i log in as root or Super user?
[03:12] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: haha oh
[03:12] <newpZ> and understable when people flood
[03:12] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: well do you know how to fix this?
[03:12] <nalioth> Code-E: next time use a pastebin (read the /topic)
[03:12] <Amaranth> !sudo
[03:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:12] <rixth> How can I stop khubd from taking 100% CPU, I can't even kill the damn process, it doesn't even respond to signal 9.
[03:12] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, do yourself a favor, uninstall the gnome-screensaver and install xscreensaver instead
[03:12] <strabes> mad3max3: they work, but usually you have to download a lot of kde libraries the 1st time.
[03:12] <strabes> mad3max3: just go for it
[03:13] <scorpio-brizing> does anyone knoow how to setup a software modem?
[03:13] <LjL> Code-E: i'm not able to tell if it looks correct from that paste... but really, just make it so that every line has "main restricted universe multiverse".
[03:13] <Mad3Max3> strabes, im completly new to linux.. like in XP u have your favorite software that u always install . have to find those on linux aswell. maybe even borrow you peoples favorite ones.. lol
[03:13] <AdamMK> jrib: install went well for amarok. support for libmtp WAS THERE. however, when i open amarok it says "cannot connect to MTP device" so i tried mtp-detect in the terminal, and got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27410/
[03:13] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: then xscreensaver kicks in durring movies =/
[03:13] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: both have really annoying bugs =[
[03:14] <jrib> AdamMK: I have no idea about that, sorry
[03:14] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, I use mplayer and its got a -stop-xscreensaver option
[03:14] <strabes> scorpio-brizing: you can type passwd to create a root password
[03:14] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:14] <jrib> AdamMK: only think I can guess (since this is the first time I have heard of mtp) is a permissions issue.  Is your user in the right groups?  maybe plugdev?
[03:14] <Mad3Max3> strabes, when the subject is up! KDE vs Gnome? is there any advantages with gnome verus KDE.. and ect?
[03:15] <LjL> Code-E: paste your current sources.list *to a pastebin!* and give me the URL if you are still afraid it might be incorrect
[03:15] <puff> join #ubuntu
[03:15] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: what about totem?
[03:15] <puff> Evening.
[03:15] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, never messed with it
[03:15] <puff> I'm trying to play an avi.  I installed totem but totem says something else is using the sound file.  Presumably firefox.
[03:15] <strabes> mad3max3: i like gnome better, some people like kde better because they say it is more powerful. kde is too much like window$ for me
[03:15] <bruenig> puff, you tried closing firefox?
[03:16] <LjL> Mad3Max3, that's a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic, but not really for here...
[03:16] <Mad3Max3> strabes, before i intalled ubuntu.. I tried the knoppix livecd.. it has KDE.. thought it was a bit unorganised for my taste..
[03:16] <newpZ> hey i think ubuntu is worse than windows vista... i bet my nvidia card will work perfectly there
[03:16] <scorpio-brizing> can someone PM me if they know anything about winmodems? or the setserial command i cant keep up in here haha
[03:16] <Code-E> http://pastebin.ca/210830
[03:16] <Mad3Max3> LjL, ok!! lol
[03:16] <Code-E> LjL
[03:16] <ChickenTalons> newpZ, then why are you here?
[03:16] <harisund> Hello! I have compiled a new kernel using the standard technique. Is there anyway I can uninstall it? (I didn't use make-kpkg. I only came to know of it after compiling the kernel)
[03:16] <El> newpZ: what build of vista are you refering to?
[03:16] <bruenig> ChickenTalons, you are familiar with trolling
[03:16] <LjL> people, what's better and what's worse and desktop wars etc. are the realm of #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:17] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:17] <newpZ> cause i wanted to make sure vista is still better
[03:17] <Amaranth> newpZ: Vista is _horrible_ for nvidia users
[03:17] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> El: not in here join #ubuntu-offtopic for windows chat
[03:17] <strabes> mad3max3: you thought kde was too unorganized? that's what i thought. you have to search through the control panel type thing for options. in gnome it's pretty simple. you can install kde and gnome at the same time if you want to just try them out: sudo apt-get install kde
[03:17] <Moosebuntu> Can I get Ubuntu to read/write to NTFS disks?
[03:17] <puff> bruenig: I have forty windwos open :-(.
[03:17] <El> Aright, sorry lol.
[03:17] <newpZ> plus i got a free linux cd in the mail
[03:17] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: ack, i've been trolled :)
[03:17] <ChickenTalons> bruenig, sure, I do it sometimes if I have been banned from somewhere and I avoid the ban using a proxy and return to harass
[03:17] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[03:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:17] <Amaranth> !fuse
[03:17] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:17] <newpZ> horible but still working
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Moosebuntu: write is not supported or safe
[03:17] <strabes> mad3max3: it will take a long time but you can try kde out some more if you want
[03:17] <sha> nihaoa
[03:17] <sha> hello
[03:17] <Moosebuntu> gnomefreak> ok, thx!
[03:17] <bruenig> ChickenTalons, yeah that was more an answer to your newpZ question
[03:17] <sha> how are you
[03:18] <sha> hello
[03:18] <scorpio-brizing> anyone know anything about setting up a software modem?
[03:18] <hikenboot> hello all---I cant seem to get my nvidia driver and glx to work with direct rendering on a FX5200 PCI video card any ideas why this is?
[03:18] <strabes> mad3max: most of the default prograsm that come with ubuntu are pretty awesome
[03:18] <Amaranth> newpZ: If nvidia doesn't work on Ubuntu it's one of two things: 1) You set it up wrong or 2) the driver that's _provided by nvidia_ is broken
[03:18] <Brydenn33> anyone have FrostWire installed? I'm having trouble getting it running
[03:18] <ChickenTalons> bruenig, sure - just letting you know how I was familiar with it
[03:18] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:18] <LjL> Code-E: you can remove the last two lines, since they've become redundant now that you've added it all to the other dapper-security lines. as for the rest, it looks ok
[03:18] <newpZ> so is a nvidia GeForce2 Ultra, Bladerunner to eleet for linux?
[03:18] <bruenig> ChickenTalons, yes I figured as much, it was rhetorical you see
[03:18] <Code-E> ok
[03:18] <Code-E> Thanks
[03:18] <bruenig> Brydenn33, you have jre installed?
[03:18] <Mad3Max3> strabes, well .. Ill stick with Gnome.. I like the layout.. maybe KDE for another computer,,
[03:18] <Brydenn33> i believe so let me double check
[03:19] <ChickenTalons> bruenig, alrighty then...
[03:19] <strabes> mad3max3: good decision :)
[03:19] <newpZ>  it came free with my purchase of a ultra-led kit for my case.....blue and red led's!
[03:19] <Amaranth> ChickenTalons: Illegal activities are off-topic here.
[03:19] <newpZ> your mom is broken
[03:19] <LjL> newpZ...?
[03:19] <Mad3Max3> strabes, darn azureus won't start.. it's stuck at loading screen
[03:20] <bruenig> lol
[03:20] <Brydenn33> hehe bruenig: guess i didnt. downloading now
[03:20] <sentinel> I have some problems configurating KDE in ubuntu
[03:20] <sentinel> kde-config does not start...
[03:20] <newpZ> not nice! microsoft wouldnt have kicked me out! they have friendlier people!
[03:20] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:20] <strabes> mad3max3: sorry i dont use azureus - i dont pirate anything =\
[03:21] <Amaranth> newpZ: Then go there and stop trolling.
[03:21] <LjL> newpZ, just stop trolling, please... we've had enough trolling in the last few minutes
[03:21] <newpZ> :)
[03:21] <newpZ> sorry.. was fun for a second!
[03:21] <Cas> Hello, yesterday a computer was shutdown hard because of a defect battery. Now the partition does mounts, if gives no errors with fsck, but the active user it's home directory has no rights/owner and give an Input/Output error on each command (chmod/chown/cd). Any ideas how to fix this?
[03:22] <Cas> btw the partition type is ext3
[03:22] <ChickenTalons> Cas, you may have to reformat your drive
[03:22] <mikeymike-linux> how would i put a flash plugin into the global plugins directory of firefox?
[03:23] <Cas> ChickenTalons: for now I would like to know if it's possible to get back the data
[03:23] <Mad3Max3> strabes, oh.. thats an missconception. lot's of companies use bittorent to have ppl download their software.. freesoftware and ect.. I downloaded my ubuntu edgy via Bittorrent.. a good thing with bittorrent for distribuation is that u don't have to have a server . saves money.. World of warcraft uses the bittorrent teqniue for their patches
[03:23] <ChickenTalons> Cas - if you boot off of the ubuntu livecd you should be able to recover your data
[03:23] <Cas> mikeymike-linux: locate/whereis the file you would like to replace
[03:23] <mikeymike-linux> well its just that
[03:23] <newpZ>  and your father is a hampster! and your sister smells of elderberries!
[03:23] <El> is there a way to edit what gets downloaded when i do "sudo apt-get upgrade"? Its realy annoying running the upgrade for a driver update, and vbeing forced to download 100mb+ of updates i dont want/need. (eg openOffice updates etc)
[03:23] <mikeymike-linux> the global directory is perm'd obviously
[03:24] <Cas> ChickenTalons: It's not my root dir so there is no need for that
[03:24] <mikeymike-linux> and for some reason my firefox wont read my /home/.mozilla/plugins/
[03:24] <mikeymike-linux> only the globals.....
[03:24] <Cas> ChickenTalons: but what tools can I use to recover the partition?
[03:24] <mikeymike-linux> i already tried putting it in my user plugins folder
[03:24] <ChickenTalons> Cas, dd? cp?
[03:24] <rawrness> anyone have an idea why ia m banned from offtopic?
[03:24] <newpZ> and call me roger the shrubber bitch
[03:24] <strabes> mad3max3: indeed. i should have said that i have no use for torrents at the moment, mainly because my college's proxy server blocks pretty much everything
[03:25] <dougsko> El: only make it so that youre using the security and/or main repos, leave out the extra ones
[03:25] <ChickenTalons> rawrness, they're ban-happy in there, big time.
[03:25] <rawrness> Very much so then
[03:25] <mikeymike-linux> what is the command to rename a file
[03:25] <mikeymike-linux> wtf.
[03:25] <rawrness> if i don't even know what i did...
[03:25] <mikeymike-linux> isn't it rename?
[03:25] <El> dougsko: how do i do that?
[03:25] <agentcy> mv
[03:25] <bruenig> mikeymike-linux, generally use "mv whatever newwhatever"
[03:25] <Mad3Max3> strabes, ok.. but do u have to go via their proxy.. can't u connect via the mainbone?
[03:25] <agentcy> mikeymike, mv oldfile newfile
[03:26] <mikeymike-linux> ah.
[03:26] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[03:26] <rawrness> perhaps they didn't like me jumping on other users backs cause they said they wehere zebras
[03:26] <newpZ> i guess i need to get the nvidia legacy drivers
[03:26] <Cas> ChickenTalons: cp doesn't work since I can't enter the directory, and it seems to me that dd would copy the faults with it
[03:26] <newpZ> anyone know where i can score those for ubuntu?
[03:26] <bruenig> !nvidia
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:26] <ChickenTalons> Cas, try booting off of the livecd first, then mounting the drive
[03:26] <dougsko> El: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the stuff you dont need
[03:26] <newpZ> no
[03:26] <strabes> mad3max3: i believe so
[03:26] <newpZ> LEGACY nvidia drivers
[03:26] <dougsko> El: if you look at it, it will make sense to you
[03:26] <El> dougsko: thank you very much :)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> rawrness: 1st your not banned in -offtopic 2nd this is not the place for this topic
[03:27] <Cas> ChickenTalons: what would that do, does the livecd has more sanity checks before mounting? currently the partition is disabled in my fstab
[03:27] <rawrness> [474]  #ubuntu-offtopic You're banned from that channel
[03:27] <dougsko> El: youre very much welcome
[03:27] <newpZ> gnomefreak, are u female?
[03:27] <ChickenTalons> Cas, the livecd doesn't have a screwed up filesystem full of errors, your HD does
[03:27] <rawrness> looks like it to me and i wouldd put it in the right channel if was not banned
[03:28] <Cas> the "/" is not screwed up, only my /home
[03:28] <Cas> ChickenTalons: ^^
[03:28] <simtower> hello does wmv9 work on ubuntu?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> rawrness: your nick nor your ip are on the ban list
[03:28] <ChickenTalons> Cas, fsck is the tool to check
[03:28] <jrib> simtower: yes, with mplayer (or xine) and w32codecs
[03:29] <newpZ> gnomefreak, honestly are u female?
[03:29] <jrib> ubotu: tell simtower about w32codecs
[03:29] <Cas> ChickenTalons: like I said, fsck doesn't give any errors
[03:29] <simtower> jrib: thanks i am installing it asap
[03:29] <_avatar__> hello all
[03:29] <LjL> newpZ, honestly, is that ontopic?
[03:29] <rawrness> !w32codecs
[03:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <gnomefreak> newpZ: does it matter and you were asked to join #ubuntu-offtopic for general/windows chat
[03:29] <_avatar__> !dhcp
[03:29] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB
[03:29] <ChickenTalons> Cas - then you can back up your data and transfer it back over or deal with the errors
[03:30] <newpZ> im not talking about windows
[03:30] <_avatar__> my ftp file transfers are stalling
[03:30] <Random_Transit> hey, question...i have JRE installed but i can't get java applets running in Firefox
[03:30] <Amaranth> !sun-java-plugin
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <newpZ> i was asked... you act like your a natzi
[03:30] <bruenig> Random_Transit, you need the java plugin too
[03:30] <dougsko> newpZ: im pretty sure gnomefreak said general/windows, note the slash, and get over it
[03:31] <Cas> ChickenTalons: like I said, I can't cd into my directory, ls -l gives me ? ? ? ? ? dirname, and chmod, chown and cd all gives me input/output error
[03:31] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-plugin
[03:31] <ChickenTalons> Cas, like I said, use the LIVECD
[03:31] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:31] <simtower> why is it a ban
[03:31] <El> Hey, im trying to install ntfs-3g, and get to the last step in the guide im following, and I get the following error:      "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g