[08:27] <Inf3ctedFx> thats all I add and the reboot and let me read it normally
[08:27] <garry> Inf3ctedFx how do  ishow you my fstab?
[08:27] <clintpatty> is it only an NTFS partition that you're having trouble with?
[08:27] <titanium_platypu> hold on.  Let me try Inf3ctedFx's idea first.
[08:27] <garry> yes, only ntfs
[08:28] <garry> and I just want to mount read only.
[08:28] <FireRabbit> looks like realplayer isnt even in dapper ... interesting
[08:28] <Inf3ctedFx> garry:  on terminal type :  cd /etc/  then sudo gedit fstab
[08:28] <clintpatty> can you access the drive when you remove the ro from fstab?
[08:28] <crimsun> !info realplayer dapper
[08:28] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[08:28] <timfrost> Inf3ctedFx. I have not used vmware player - I have a VMWare 5.0 license, so installled VMWare (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare)
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> that did the trick.  Thanks a lot guys
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> then copy everything and paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> and thanks Inf3ctedFx
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> okay
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> no problem titanium_platypu
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> I just discovered another problem
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> so now there's two more.
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> :-P
[08:29] <crimsun> FireRabbit: as you can see, it is.
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> wooww whats up
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> I am difficult to satisfy, as you can see.
[08:29] <garry> say Inf3ctedFx did that, I can edit it fine, but it looks fine, as if a user should have permissions to use it.
[08:29] <FireRabbit> hrm
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> did u rebbot the box garry ?
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> *reboot?
[08:29] <crimsun> p.u.c. is not synced nightly.
[08:29] <crimsun> use the bot if you need to know something.
[08:30] <FireRabbit> okay thanks
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> okay, #4) anybody used the program "Celestia"?  I have, and I love it.  But when I try to run it in Ubuntu, it crashes my whole system!  I can't even Ctrl+Alt+F1 myself to a terminal.
[08:30] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, what did you do exactly to fix realplayer?
[08:30] <garry> Here is a line for the device from fstab. Haven't rebooted, its just first time I've had difficulty.
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> under "RealPlayer"
[08:30] <FireRabbit> ah you downloaded that .deb?
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> yes.
[08:31] <FireRabbit> ok
[08:31] <Inf3ctedFx> garry:  here is my fstab I have 2 HDD's one master and one slave  look --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6440
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> so,
[08:31] <garry> using music programs to browse the folder. The mount point has permissions that root can read only, all others are forbidden.
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> titanium_platypu, I use it with no problems.
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> anybody have any idea what to do about my latest whiny gripe?
[08:31] <Inf3ctedFx> titanium_platypu:  I follow those and work for me just fine
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> hm.
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> you use Celestia?
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Yes.
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> well, I might look around on the intarbutt for help with that one....as well as with my sound card.
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> last one:
[08:32] <Inf3ctedFx> timfrost:  do u know where can I find the Windows version of QEMU.??
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> #5) before, in Firefox, I could just select a URL and then hit the middle mouse button in Firefox's main window in order to go to the URL, using X's copy-paste feature.
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> now it doesn't do that
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> the copy-paste feature works fine,
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> but not the cool little Firefox deal
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> anyone know about that?
[08:32] <garry> Thanks Inf3ctedFx I will try that umask=0722 thing.
[08:32] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, wow, you actually WANT that? ;)
[08:33] <FireRabbit> goto about:config
[08:33] <Inf3ctedFx> garry:  dont forget to reboot
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> O_o
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> shouldn't I?
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> it's handy
[08:33] <FireRabbit> it drives me nuts, i always use autoscroll
[08:33] <FireRabbit> but yeah, about:config
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> okay
[08:33] <FireRabbit> search for contentloadurl
[08:33] <timfrost> Inf3ctedFx, No. I don't run M$ s/ware at home at all
[08:33] <FireRabbit> set middlemouse.contentloadurl to true
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> sweet.
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> thanks
[08:34] <FireRabbit> yw
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> I love that feature
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> okay, so you solved 3/5 of my problems
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> thank you all very much
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> I appreciate it.
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> see you later.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> FireRabbit, Question on about:config; can you just edit that straight in the window?
[08:34] <FireRabbit> have fun
[08:34] <FireRabbit> tonyyarusso, yeah
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> FireRabbit, Huh.  Was very confused the one time I actually tried to.  Probably know more now though.
[08:35] <LordMelkor> hi there
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Oh, yeah I see.  Reminds me of Windows' registry.
[08:35] <LordMelkor> im haveing some trouble with my cd driver i think
[08:36] <LordMelkor> I load a cd with mp3s on it into the computer
[08:36] <LordMelkor> and try to copy them
[08:36] <LordMelkor> to the hd
[08:36] <LordMelkor> but then i get an error
[08:36] <LordMelkor> that says i/o
[08:36] <LordMelkor> error
[08:36] <LordMelkor> or sumthing like that
[08:36] <FireRabbit> is part of the cd scrached off? :)
[08:36] <clintpatty> LordMelkor did you umount then mount again
[08:36] <LordMelkor> im very new to linux
[08:37] <clintpatty> i've had that problem before and just remounting fixed it
[08:37] <LordMelkor> so
[08:37] <LordMelkor> i have no idea what that means
[08:37] <clintpatty> is it your only cd drive?
[08:37] <LordMelkor> ya
[08:37] <clintpatty> is it /dev/cdrom
[08:37] <clintpatty> or do you know
[08:37] <FireRabbit> LordMelkor, have you rebooted between trying this?
[08:37] <LordMelkor> yes
[08:37] <FireRabbit> ok
[08:37] <FireRabbit> then theres no point in trying to remount :)
[08:37] <LordMelkor> multiple times
[08:37] <FireRabbit> since that happens when you reboot by nature
[08:37] <LordMelkor> oh
[08:37] <clintpatty> haha yeah, nvm
[08:38] <LordMelkor> darn
[08:38] <LordMelkor> it also happend wwhen i tried to burn a cd
[08:38] <LordMelkor> its a cd-rw/dvd combo drive
[08:38] <FireRabbit> interesting
[08:38] <FireRabbit> did you drop it? ;)
[08:38] <LordMelkor> you know.
[08:38] <LordMelkor> i did
[08:38] <LordMelkor> but i didnt think anything happend.
[08:38] <FireRabbit> haha
[08:38] <LordMelkor> damnit
[08:39] <clintpatty> FireRabbit if root mounted it when rebooting and didn't have right permissions for user access, would that result in i/o error?
[08:39] <FireRabbit> well, i mean you never know... try sticking another drive in and reading that same CD of mp3s
[08:39] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, no, permissions error
[08:39] <LordMelkor> hm
[08:39] <LordMelkor> ill futz with it for a bit to see if its the drive that has the problem
[08:39] <LordMelkor> well
[08:39] <LordMelkor> thnx
[08:40] <LordMelkor> i might bbl
[08:40] <clintpatty> k, i used to get i/o error on a fat32 drive on mandrake w/ permission stuff, so didn't know
[08:40] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, really? that's wonky
[08:40] <clintpatty> so was the mandrake i was using
[08:40] <FireRabbit> hehe
[08:40] <Atlas95> hello
[08:40] <Atlas95> i wich you an happy new year guys (sorry for my englsih :p)
[08:40] <FireRabbit> in all my experience, I/O errors reading from cds have always meant i either dropped the drive or scratched the disk
[08:41] <clintpatty> uh oh
[08:41] <clintpatty> man, i should go to bed
[08:41] <clintpatty> and compile openoffice2 overnight
[08:42] <FireRabbit> you need to compile openoffice?
[08:43] <clintpatty> yeah
[08:43] <timfrost> clintpatty. what is wrmg wth the  OO.2 versons in the repositories?
[08:43] <clintpatty> i'm not using Ubuntu timfrost
[08:43] <FireRabbit> oh
[08:44] <clintpatty> i just burned the livedvd though
[08:44] <clintpatty> and will try it
[08:44] <FireRabbit> you know you could probably download, install, and configure ubuntu in less time than it will take to compile openoffice ;)
[08:44] <clintpatty> yeah but i will compile openoffice in my sleep
[08:45] <clintpatty> do yall think Ubuntu is the best distro
[08:46] <FireRabbit> for a workstation i certainly do
[08:46] <FireRabbit> for severs i still use debian
[08:46] <juuva> How I can upgrade kernel using apt? Made couple of days ago server-install of 5.10
[08:47] <juuva> I just cant figure out where kernel has been deselected
[08:48] <omoore> thx to u guys for a very easy way of installing linux onto a pc that has no cd or floppy but can boot from usb stick.. and for very good instructions on how to do so
[08:49] <sportman> happy new years, wow breazy is nice compared to hoary
[08:49] <omoore> this was my first time instlling ubuntu via usb stick and it was a very pleasant experience (ie.. easy + successfull)
[08:49] <clintpatty> what do yall Ubuntu people use to rip/encode DVDs?
[08:50] <Davey`> what can I use to *edit* EXIF data?
[08:51] <FireRabbit> sportman, :)
[08:53] <FireRabbit> Davey`, wow, i can think of lots of things that will *view* it... :)
[08:54] <Davey`> FireRabbit: nope, my digicam looses the date when the batteries dies, so some of my pictures have 1/1/2000 as the date, and I *know* thats wrong
[08:54] <FireRabbit> ooh, sucky
[08:54] <FireRabbit> i wonder if f-spot can do that
[08:54] <FireRabbit> did you try?
[08:54] <La_PaRCa> Davey`, albumshaper
[08:54] <Davey`> nope, though I just tagged about 2/3 of my images in f-spot, I'm going to try the flickr upload stuff shortly :)
[08:55] <Davey`> installing now La_PaRCa
[08:55] <Davey`> man, I just love this new 10Mbit cable, Fetched 4365kB in 9s (438kB/s)
[08:55] <Davey`> I remember when it took me 15 *minutes* :/
[08:55] <Viper12> clint, using dvd:rip, avidemux seems to work very well.
[08:55] <clintpatty> k
[08:56] <La_PaRCa> Davey`, dont make me come there and whap you upside the head. I still am on 256Kbps
[08:56] <Davey`> La_PaRCa: hehe, I just got 10Mbit last week
[08:56] <Davey`> had only 5Mbit before that
[08:57] <La_PaRCa> :/
[08:57] <Davey`> I call up and its like "Hi, I'd like to upgrade to 10Mbit" "Sure, we can do that" "How long will it take to install?"  IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[09:00] <Lord_Athur> can anybody help me?
[09:00] <johndarkhorse> !ask
[09:00] <mrkoje> Davey`,  I hate roadrunner... they say "up too 5mbs" all i ever get is 2mb up and a measly 50kb up
[09:00] <La_PaRCa> Davey`, theres something on the repos called jhead, maybe look at that
[09:00] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Lord_Athur about ask
[09:00] <Davey`> OKies :)
[09:01] <Davey`> mrkoje: I can test upto 8Mbit on my wireless connection here... I would hope my roomie on the ethernet cable gets damn close to the full 10Mbit
[09:01] <Davey`> of course, I live in god waiting room, not many internet users here ;)
[09:01] <mrkoje> Davey`,  well your lucky
[09:02] <Lord_Athur> johndarkhorse, I've tried to mount the initrd file with: mount -o loop -t ext2  /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd /mnt/a , but i recive the following message: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,
[09:02] <Lord_Athur>        missing codepage or other error
[09:02] <Lord_Athur>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:02] <Lord_Athur>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:02] <Lord_Athur> then what should I do?
[09:03] <HappyFool> try leave off '-t ext2' and see if the FS type can be auto-detected
[09:04] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool, look:
[09:04] <Lord_Athur> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[09:04] <Lord_Athur> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:04] <La_PaRCa> Lord_Athur, you sure its ext2?
[09:05] <HappyFool> what does 'file /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd' say ?
[09:05] <Lord_Athur> La_PaRCa, yes, i am
[09:05] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool, I dont understand you :S
[09:05] <HappyFool> Lord_Athur: run the 'file' command on your initrd file
[09:06] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool, my file says:
[09:06] <Lord_Athur> /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd: gzip compressed data, was "initrd", from Unix, max compression
[09:07] <FireRabbit> happy new year everyone
[09:08] <Lord_Athur> thanks FireRabbit
[09:08] <HappyFool> try something like 'zcat /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd > /home/alejandro/initrd.tmp' and then 'file /home/alejandro/initrd.tmp'
[09:08] <Lord_Athur> happy new year for you too
[09:09] <FireRabbit> fireworks on tv sure are lame
[09:09] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool,
[09:09] <Lord_Athur> /home/alejandro/initrd.tmp: Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data
[09:09] <La_PaRCa> Lord_Athur, ok, now mount the .tmp
[09:10] <Lord_Athur> ok
[09:11] <Lord_Athur> gracias HappyFool
[09:11] <Lord_Athur> thanks all
[09:11] <Lord_Athur> bye
[09:13] <raymond> i need help instralling software
[09:13] <raymond> installing*
[09:14] <raymond> can someone help me install softwear
[09:15] <crimsun> what software?
[09:15] <liable> raymond: err, what is the problem, apt/synaptic make it fairly painless..
[09:15] <raymond> i dont know how ti install softwear
[09:15] <raymond> to*
[09:15] <FireRabbit> what do you want to install
[09:16] <raymond> limewire
[09:16] <FireRabbit> extract it
[09:16] <FireRabbit> and run the runLime.sh script
[09:16] <raymond> k
[09:16] <raymond> their is not one
[09:16] <FireRabbit> i dont think there are any packages
[09:17] <FireRabbit> yeah there is :)
[09:17] <crimsun> you have to download limewire from their Web site
[09:17] <raymond> i did
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> is not package
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> I donwload it from the website
[09:17] <raymond> its for linux
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes
[09:17] <FireRabbit> i meant "yeah there is a runLime script"
[09:17] <raymond> but i cant install it
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes
[09:18] <Inf3ctedFx> just download LimeWire the open terminal and type sh runLime
[09:18] <FireRabbit> i had thrown together an updated limewire package at once
[09:18] <Inf3ctedFx> and thats all
[09:18] <FireRabbit> but i didnt update it with the latest version
[09:18] <raymond> k
[09:18] <wizdumb> happy new year everyone
[09:19] <raymond> it did not work
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> ???
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> did u install JAva?
[09:19] <raymond> i am a noob a linux
[09:19] <raymond> no i did not
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u something
[09:20] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on
[09:20] <FireRabbit> sudo apt-get install java-package :)
[09:20] <wizdumb> trying to install ubuntu 5.1.0, having an issue with the cdrom not being detected
[09:20] <wizdumb> it boots to ubuntu, and loads up ok.. but when it tries to detect and mount the cdrom, it fails.  Is this a common occurance?
[09:20] <FireRabbit> raymond, here are the directions http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_Java_JRE/JDK_installation_with_java-package
[09:20] <raymond> thanks
[09:20] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  look read thos howto almos at the bottom ther is a secciotn talking about how to install java --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:21] <Inf3ctedFx> sorryu for my english is not really good xD
[09:21] <FireRabbit> ah, same thing basically
[09:21] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  there is a section say: Getting Java
[09:22] <raymond> k found it
[09:24] <mihai> happy new year!
[09:25] <Inf3ctedFx> same 2 u
[09:25] <mihai> can some tell me of theyr experience if vcdimager in ubuntu breezy really works?
[09:26] <mihai> because I've written a cd-rw using a vcd2 image made with it and then it was unridable
[09:26] <mihai> the solution I've found was using mkvcdfs from vcd-tools
[09:26] <mihai> but I need to know if vcdimager really works
[09:26] <mihai> can some help?
[09:29] <mihai> another problem is that mkvcdfs makes only a vcd1.1 filesystem, which is guess is somehow inferior to the vcd2
[09:29] <raymond> i dont under the website
[09:29] <raymond> that much
[09:29] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  what the site I gave u?
[09:30] <raymond> yea
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me c if I can help u
[09:30] <raymond> i am a compleat noob at linux
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> go here and download the Java --> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[09:30] <Langly1> raymond, you are also a noob at spelling.
[09:30] <raymond> wick one
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> donwload the one is NOT FROM netBeans
[09:30] <raymond> witch*
[09:31] <raymond> the j2EE
[09:31] <Inf3ctedFx> there r 2 download the second one
[09:31] <Langly1> which not witch
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> the JRE 5.0 Update 6
[09:32] <Amaranth> !javadeb
[09:32] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:32] <BlackJudas> Anyone familiar with hardware?  Or can someone suggest a channel to discuss memory timings?   :)
[09:32] <Langly1> witch:  A woman claiming or popularly believed to possess magical powers and practice sorcery.  #  A believer or follower of Wicca; a Wiccan.
[09:32] <jdcaserockies> Can someone help me with my printer?
[09:32] <raymond> wich linux version
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> Laney:  dud he's trying to get help not to been point it
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  hold on
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> Go to [WWW]  http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp and click on Download JRE 5.0 Update 6
[09:32] <Amaranth> raymond: check out the link ubotu just gave
[09:33] <jdcaserockies> hp officejet k80, it is installed, but won't print, hplip and cupsys are running, whats wrong with it?
[09:33] <Inf3ctedFx> Ensure you do not choose the link with the NetBeans bundle or "J2EE 1.4".
[09:33] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  in that link everything is explaint
[09:33] <raymond> k
[09:33] <SillyZ> btw, id like to say thank you to everyone whos helped me here getting started with ubuntu!!
[09:34] <Amaranth> raymond: just install http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[09:34] <Amaranth> raymond: much better than getting it from sun
[09:34] <jdcaserockies> sillyz, are you being serious or sarcastic?
[09:34] <Inf3ctedFx> now raymond  where it said u have to type on the command line make sure u r typing that on "the Terminal"
[09:34] <SillyZ> found the solution for the 'no floppy boot' installation method... yank the drive out, move it over to another box, run setup until its ready to reboot, then move the drive back to the original box , done
[09:34] <raymond> k
[09:34] <Inf3ctedFx> i'm also new on ubuntu..
[09:35] <jdcaserockies> anyone good with printing problems?
[09:35] <Amaranth> Inf3ctedFx: Just have him use the deb.
[09:35] <Inf3ctedFx> and everything I learn is because I like to read.. and finding out
[09:35] <FireRabbit> theres a deb?
[09:35] <Amaranth> jdcaserockies: Not I, sorry.
[09:35] <Amaranth> FireRabbit: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[09:35] <jdcaserockies> Anyone else?
[09:35] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  I dont know about that one.. I install the Java with that howto and is pretty simple to follow...
[09:35] <FireRabbit> Amaranth, i thought that the license forbids this sort of redistribution
[09:36] <SillyZ> jdcaserockies, I was being serious
[09:36] <Amaranth> FireRabbit: it's from a non-us server ;)
[09:36] <jdcaserockies> sillyz, k
[09:36] <FireRabbit> Amaranth, ah i see
[09:36] <SillyZ> intelikey I belive it was , and a few others
[09:37] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  if u have questions let me know
[09:37] <raymond> k
[09:37] <jdcaserockies> can someone help with hplip, hpoj, etc?
[09:39] <jdcaserockies> anybody good with printers in ubuntu?
[09:39] <wil_> anybody have an ipod mini that has been umounted from gnome's subcontextual menu and does not show up under mount in term but ho's screen still reads "do not disconnect"?
[09:41] <Truth> Hey. Can someone explain something to me.
[09:41] <Truth> I try to install Slackware, and fdisk can't seek my hard drive.
[09:41] <Inf3ctedFx> Truth:  did u ask on #slackware ?
[09:41] <Truth> I use Ubuntu, and it sees and partitions the HD fine, and it is installing as I speak.
[09:42] <SillyZ> Truth, is it on a raid controller ?
[09:42] <Truth> Inf3ctedFx, yeah, I've been on there a bit. I just wondered if Ubuntu has a weird workaround in the installed.
[09:42] <Truth> SillyZ, it's a laptop.
[09:42] <Inf3ctedFx> I use to have slack and never gave me a problem on the partition Truth
[09:42] <SillyZ> how big of drive ?
[09:42] <FireRabbit> maybe its a newer kernel?
[09:42] <Truth> Like 20GB or so.
[09:42] <Inf3ctedFx> I made a partition of 20 gig
[09:42] <Stew_Lappy> my laptop doesn't work with all distros - sata controller
[09:43] <SillyZ> hmm are you doing a fdisk /dev/hda1 by chance maybe ?
[09:43] <Inf3ctedFx> not really I had windows and I partiton my HDD with partiton magic
[09:43] <Truth> I dunno.
[09:43] <Truth> it's weird.
[09:43] <Inf3ctedFx> then  I install Slack
[09:43] <SillyZ> ouch pqmagic, does strange things to harddrives
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> not really
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> it works pretty great 4 mwe
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> me
[09:44] <SillyZ> Ive got one here thatll throw an 117 error everytime, if ya use pq
[09:44] <relic> well, what's reasons that they don't make a 1394b built-in HDD?
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> in fact I partiton this one with the same partition magic
[09:44] <relic> or SAS
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> I use norton partition magic
[09:45] <andres> feliz ao!!!
[09:45] <Inf3ctedFx> Feliz ano andres
[09:45] <andres> happy new year ;)
[09:45] <Inf3ctedFx> hey raymond how ya' doing so far?
[09:46] <raymond> im still dowloading java
[09:46] <relic> if they used 1394, HDD <--> HDD  it's possible
[09:46] <Inf3ctedFx> what kind of connection do u have raymond ?
[09:46] <raymond> dsl
[09:46] <Inf3ctedFx> why so slow?
[09:46] <raymond> it is the chepest thing my parents could find
[09:46] <relic> 150 baud me
[09:47] <Inf3ctedFx> mm where r u locate it?
[09:47] <raymond> i dont under stand
[09:47] <Inf3ctedFx> r u in USA?
[09:47] <raymond> yea
[09:48] <Inf3ctedFx> r u sure?
[09:48] <liable> !u
[09:48] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[09:48] <raymond> im pretty sure
[09:48] <SillyZ> Inf3ctedFx, Im running a piii-750 gateway solo 5300 here, dual boot Win2k / Ubuntu
[09:48] <Inf3ctedFx> cuz ur english it seems to me is kind bad than mine lol
[09:48] <SillyZ> no cdrom....
[09:48] <raymond> im a bad speller
[09:49] <relic> OEM machines = s***
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm running a Athlon Xp 2.0 gig 200 gig HDD
[09:49] <raymond> i feld english twice
[09:49] <SillyZ> nice
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> 100 gig 4 Win and 100 Gig for Linux
[09:49] <SillyZ> Ive got a 100gb drive w/ 8mb cache ( 2.5inch ) running in the big box
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> cool
[09:49] <SillyZ> 2.5 -> 3.5 adapter, it cooks right along
[09:49] <raymond> whats a big box
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  I'm from colombia so, dont worry lol
[09:50] <SillyZ> amd-1900xp+
[09:50] <raymond> the country
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> Yep
[09:50] <raymond> cool
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> there is not state lol
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> unless u mean Columbia
[09:50] <raymond> in usa their is
[09:51] <Inf3ctedFx> nahh Colombia and Columbia r complete different
[09:51] <Inf3ctedFx> xD
[09:51] <Inf3ctedFx> but I'm on Florida
[09:51] <raymond> im a bad speller
[09:51] <raymond> i live in columbia
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> Ohio?
[09:52] <raymond> i dont know why my dsl is so slow?
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> who is ur DSL Company?
[09:52] <raymond> bellsouth
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> bellsouth runs 1.5 megas
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> should be fast
[09:52] <raymond> it is slow as hell
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> u might have bad connection on ur house..
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> maybe u have a wrong filter setting up
[09:53] <raymond> maby
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> remember the line goes from the jack on the wall to ur dsl box has 2 be clean, nothing in between
[09:53] <raymond> o shit
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> no filters, no adapters, not spliters
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> clean.. straight up
[09:54] <_max_> Infe3ctedFx, don't ya know the worst english spellers come from the US and UK ;p
[09:54] <Inf3ctedFx> in the back on ur dsl box how many cords do u have?
[09:54] <raymond> 3
[09:54] <Inf3ctedFx> _max_:  thats the english i learn lol
[09:54] <raymond> power phone network
[09:54] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  so I believe u have the Power cord, the Ethernet Cord and the Phone cord
[09:54] <raymond> cables
[09:54] <raymond> yea
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> the phone one is plug into the one said DSL LINE? or something like that?
[09:55] <raymond> java is done
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> NO FILTERS??!!!
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> ok cool
[09:55] <raymond> i have filters
[09:55] <raymond> and the phone line is pluged i right
[09:55] <raymond> in
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  dude u r filtering the signal thats why is slow has hell
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> the filters r just for any other phone device in ur house using the same DSL line
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> but no for the DSL Box
[09:56] <Amaranth> If you put a filter on the line running to the DSL modem you will get _no_ connection.
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  it will sometimes but pretty slow
[09:56] <raymond> it says to plug it in the filters
[09:57] <Amaranth> You need filters for all the phones though, otherwise when someone is on the phone you're connection will slow down or die.
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> Believe me I use to be Tech Support for AOL lol
[09:57] <raymond> i do
[09:57] <raymond> download is done now what
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  make sure u phone line comes from the Jack on the wall to the DSL box there  is not filter in between
[09:57] <chterrazas> hi!
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> ok raymond let me c
[09:58] <Inf3ctedFx> did u donwload it on desktop?
[09:58] <chterrazas> Neeed a little help with the Gnome Calendar... Anyone?
[09:58] <raymond> yea
[09:58] <Inf3ctedFx> open terminal and type this: cd Desktop
[09:58] <Inf3ctedFx> the type chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[09:59] <Inf3ctedFx> Install the java-package and java-common, as well as fakeroot (which allows a non-root user to create the package derived from Sun's bin file)
[09:59] <Inf3ctedFx> sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[09:59] <chterrazas> How can I change the first day of the week (Mon) for the Realone (Sun)???
[09:59] <x86__> weeee
[10:00] <x86__> ubundo dapper here \o/
[10:00] <x86__> thanks for all
[10:00] <x86__> bye bye =)
[10:00] <chterrazas> come on guys...
[10:00] <raymond> says comand not found "+x"
[10:00] <Wilf> Inf3ctedFx, ran the java thing, do i need to do anything else to make programs find it?
[10:01] <Inf3ctedFx> not really Wilf
[10:01] <Inf3ctedFx> Wilf:  the info is here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:01] <Wilf> limewire won't work for me :\
[10:02] <Wilf> says i need the jre
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Wilf:  yes u need to install the Java
[10:02] <chterrazas> use... the OpenVer...
[10:02] <Amaranth> Wilf: forget limewire, get apollon
[10:02] <Wilf> Inf3ctedFx, i just followed the instructions you just posted.
[10:02] <chterrazas> Wilf : Use FrostWire
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> check the website I gave u Wilf  is almost at the bottom
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> I use Limewire and Gktnutella
[10:03] <raymond> file:///home/raymond/Desktop/sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2%2B10_i386.deb.part
[10:03] <raymond> what is the part?
[10:03] <chterrazas> LimeWire.... Filter your search criteria...
[10:03] <Inf3ctedFx> where did u get that raymond ?
[10:03] <raymond> i got two java on my desktop
[10:03] <Amaranth> raymond: it means the file didn't finish
[10:03] <raymond> when i downloaded it
[10:04] <raymond> my dsl is fucked up
[10:04] <Amaranth> raymond: either firefox is still downloading it or your closed firefox while it was downloading
[10:04] <Inf3ctedFx> probably didn't download propietly
[10:04] <deFrysk> nicotine is my p2p app
[10:04] <raymond> it sayed it was done
[10:04] <deFrysk> always works and is in the repos
[10:04] <raymond> file:///home/raymond/Desktop/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0%2Bupdate06_i386.deb
[10:04] <raymond> that was the other part
[10:05] <Amaranth> raymond: open a terminal and run 'file ~/Desktop/sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2%2B10_i386.deb.part' (no quotes)
[10:05] <raymond> k
[10:05] <chterrazas> Does anyone knows how can I change the first day of the week (Mon) to (Sun)???
[10:06] <Inf3ctedFx> not really chterrazas
[10:06] <chterrazas> 2 bad
[10:06] <dos-assassin> I apoligize for butting in... but I am completely clueless... see I was given Ubuntu Linux as a gift and when Bill Gate's POS OS crashed on me I reformatted to it... now I understand most of the basics but I can't get my torrents to work correctly and I am not 100% sure on how to install things... any help would be much appreciated
[10:06] <mahangu> is there a decent video editor for ubuntu?
[10:07] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  so u said Apollon is good?
[10:07] <chterrazas> Ive lookin for the answere and nothing
[10:07] <Amaranth> chterrazas: probably in evolution
[10:07] <mahangu> dos-assassin, torrents work with gnome bit torrent
[10:07] <Amaranth> Inf3ctedFx: yeah, except it's a KDE app so it looks out of place
[10:07] <mahangu> dos-assassin, for installing stuff use synaptic
[10:07] <mahangu> ubotu, tell dos-assassin about synaptic
[10:08] <Wilf> Inf3ctedFx, /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[10:08] <Inf3ctedFx> chterrazas:  what about that Frostwire?
[10:08] <dos-assassin> I know how to use the synaptic and even the apt-get but I tend to find alot of files in tar.gz and I need to know how to manually install them... I have looked at some sites following their instructions but it never seems to work
[10:08] <raymond> it sayed no file or directory
[10:08] <chterrazas> Amaranth: I did that befero here... and nothing... the feature of switching the day of that calendar its gone since I dont remember wich version..
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> whats the diference btwen FrostWire and LimeWire?
[10:09] <mahangu> Inf3ctedFx, frostwire is the FOSS fork
[10:09] <Amaranth> Wilf: you need to install java-package
[10:09] <chterrazas> FrostWire its Open Source and is FREE
[10:09] <mahangu> Inf3ctedFx, iirc, Limewire is no longer free as in speech
[10:09] <chterrazas> as FrEeDom!!
[10:09] <chterrazas> =)
[10:09] <mahangu> chterrazas, yeah it helps to say freedom rather than free
[10:10] <Amaranth> free vs Free
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> ok.. so btween Lime and Frost,  Frost is better cuz is free? or is better on dowloads?
[10:10] <raymond> i am really good at using windows linux is new to me
[10:10] <chterrazas> LimeWire filters your search...
[10:10] <Amaranth> Inf3ctedFx: apollon can download from kazaa, gnutella, openft, and ares
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> chterrazas:  what about Frost?
[10:10] <chterrazas> Its supposed that Frost doesnt
[10:10] <Amaranth> aries? something like that
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  that sounds good
[10:11] <raymond> i just wont to get a sharing program
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> ares
[10:11] <chterrazas> Take a look here... http://www.frostwire.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> what happend with the java?
[10:11] <raymond> yea
[10:11] <raymond> it sayed no such file or directy
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> u might need to download it again
[10:12] <raymond> ok
[10:12] <cosco> hey guys :)
[10:12] <cosco> happy new year
[10:12] <chterrazas> Same 2 U
[10:12] <chterrazas> cosco
[10:13] <dos-assassin> Can Ares work on Linux and if so how do you convert .exe. to .deb?
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  yes, with the wine xD
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> I didt it with wine
[10:13] <cosco> wine or cedega :)
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> wine
[10:13] <dos-assassin> Ok, and how would I go about doing that?
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:
[10:13] <raymond> yea
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  apt-get install wine
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> check ur query raymond
[10:14] <raymond> i dont know how\
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> what irc client do u have?
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> X-chat?
[10:14] <raymond> i am a windows guy
[10:14] <raymond> yea
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> r u on windows right now?
[10:14] <cosco> lol ^^
[10:14] <raymond> no
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> ok,.. so which irc client r u using?
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> BitchX, xchat, irssi
[10:15] <mahangu> is there a way to open a man page in a searchable gui
[10:15] <raymond> x-chat for linux
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> I send u a query
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> look for a new tab with my nick
[10:15] <raymond> k
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> or type /query Inf3ctedFx  Hello there
[10:15] <ganteng> k
[10:16] <ganteng> k
[10:17] <dos-assassin> Ok I used sudo apt-get install wine, and the sudo apt-get update... now I have the Ares.exe file... how do I open it?
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  wine Ares.exer
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  wine Ares.exe
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  dude
[10:18] <raymond> yea
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> did u read what I type?
[10:18] <raymond> yea
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> so?
[10:18] <cosco> I have a problem ...Totem movie player does not start at me .. error: The video output is in use by other application .. please close the app or choose another output
[10:18] <cosco> any ideeas?
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> type /query Inf3ctedFx  Hello there
[10:18] <raymond> im am so lost
[10:18] <dos-assassin> Ok so wine aresregular189_installer.exe correct?
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> hahahaa
[10:19] <raymond> i did that
[10:19] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  type HERE /query Inf3ctedFx
[10:19] <mrkoje> happy new year
[10:19] <Inf3ctedFx> it will open another tab
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  go here  #Telarius
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> --> double click here #Telraius
[10:21] <raymond> i typed yea after you said here did you not see it
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> double click on --> #Telarius
[10:22] <sportmankid> hey
[10:22] <hydroksyde> looks like it's 2006 pretty much everywhere by now
[10:22] <sportmankid> where can i find out if my firewire is detected
[10:22] <hydroksyde> dmesg
[10:22] <SillyZ> dmesg | grep -i 1394
[10:23] <SillyZ> well that was redundant, -i #### rofl
[10:23] <sportmankid> ok detected
[10:23] <sportmankid> :)
[10:23] <cosco> ok .. i tried wine an application .. got an error and screwed my resolution .. how can i set it back?
[10:23] <hydroksyde> xrandr
[10:24] <sportmankid> hmm now to get graphics accelleration
[10:24] <hydroksyde> xrandr -s 0 usually
[10:24] <sportmankid> anyone have luck on ati mobility 9600
[10:24] <hydroksyde> sportman, which card?
[10:24] <hydroksyde> erm
[10:24] <hydroksyde> ATI linux display drivers?
[10:24] <cosco> thanks
[10:24] <sportmankid> you think that will do it?
[10:24] <hydroksyde> probably
[10:24] <sportmankid> synaptic will have it?
[10:24] <hydroksyde> maybe
[10:25] <hydroksyde> i think it does
[10:25] <hydroksyde> in restricted i think
[10:25] <marcster> hi. i just installed ubuntu. im very new with linux and im having problems with apt. i just did apt-setup without problems. but i cant seem to install anything with apt-get install
[10:25] <sportmankid> yea i unrestricked everything
[10:25] <hydroksyde> hmm...
[10:25] <hydroksyde> i'm not an apt person
[10:26] <marcster> me too. i got too used to urpmi
[10:26] <hydroksyde> i'm just a slackware fellow who is trying to figure out ubuntu so I can sell computers with linux preinstalled
[10:26] <cosco> how do i install mozzila active x ?
[10:26] <hydroksyde> activeX? why would you want that?
[10:26] <hydroksyde> it's just a big security hole
[10:27] <chterrazas> I recommend this for those who wich to install the common apps to work with music, video and internet stuff... "easybreezy0.33"
[10:27] <cosco> kydroksyde: i need it for wine .. its requested in some appz
[10:27] <hydroksyde> ok
[10:27] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[10:27] <sportmankid> hmm
[10:27] <hydroksyde> i'm not sure
[10:27] <sportmankid> xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:27] <sportmankid> Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[10:27] <sportmankid> my card is officially supported by that
[10:27] <sportmankid> should i try it out?
[10:28] <hydroksyde> that sounds like it might be the open source driver... the closed source one might be faster
[10:28] <sportmankid> ah
[10:28] <sportmankid> ok
[10:28] <hydroksyde> i don't know about ATI
[10:28] <sportmankid> check the ati website i guess?
[10:28] <cosco> is CEDEGA freeware?
[10:28] <hydroksyde> but the nv driver in x.org doesn't support acceleration, but the nvidia one from nvidia does
[10:28] <hydroksyde> cosco, no
[10:28] <cosco> :|
[10:29] <hydroksyde> sportmankid, probably
[10:29] <hydroksyde> cosco, not unless you can figure out how to get it from the CVS
[10:29] <cosco> lol
[10:29] <hydroksyde> cosco, and compile it
[10:29] <j2daosh> what is up people
[10:29] <cosco> i jumped on linux just to get legal :D believe
[10:29] <hydroksyde> erm... the ceiling, the roof, the sky
[10:30] <cosco> kidding
[10:30] <hydroksyde> lol
[10:30] <hydroksyde> that was part of the reason for me
[10:30] <hydroksyde> i don't like having illegal software on my computer
[10:30] <cosco> well i do
[10:30] <cosco> :)
[10:30] <cosco> but i had some problems with cosco.com
[10:31] <cosco> and i was afraid to keep the fucking windows .. all webmasteroing programs.. ufck them
[10:31] <cosco> :>
[10:31] <j2daosh> ok i know i have asked this question before but i just woke up and cant remember yet... where are applications that have been recently installed but not put in my applications menu? /usr/bin?
[10:31] <Chameleon22> installed sane, etc. kooka sems to see the scanner but when i actually start it (the app0 i get an error; no sane support... any ideas why and how i can get the scanner working?
[10:31] <hydroksyde> j2daosh, there, or /usr/local/bin
[10:31] <hydroksyde> j2daosh, maybe /opt/bin also
[10:31] <j2daosh> woot woot, thank you very much hydroksyde
[10:32] <hydroksyde> j2daosh, type `which` at the console
[10:32] <hydroksyde> that will tell you
[10:32] <sportmankid> hmm the package is a .run?
[10:32] <j2daosh> which what?
[10:32] <sportmankid> the ati thing
[10:32] <sportmankid> is in .run
[10:32] <sportmankid> u think sh wi11 do the trick?
[10:33] <SillyZ> q: Im running a linksys wireless nic, 5ghz and 2.4ghz , anyway to tell the ath_pci driver to enable the extra channels for the 5ghz range ?
[10:33] <hydroksyde> sportmankid, yes, run it with sh
[10:33] <sportmankid> thanks
[10:34] <hydroksyde> sportmankid, you might have to kill X, then run it from a console
[10:34] <j2daosh> .... hmmm... i cant seem to find the program in any of those directories...
[10:34] <dos-assassin> How do I display a .Ink file?
[10:37] <sportmankid> kill x?
[10:37] <sportmankid> i dont 1ike the sound of that
[10:37] <j2daosh> ok anyone know about a webcam program that has option to prwview before taking a snapshot and video recording/playback?
[10:39] <chterrazas> Hi! Does anyone knows how can I change the first day of the week (Mon) to (Sun) on the "Calendar Panel" (Gnome 2.12)?
[10:40] <Kindred> chterrazas: in evolution preferences I think
[10:42] <chterrazas> Nope...
[10:43] <chterrazas> Kindred: It has the option... but it doesnt affect the gnome panel...
[10:43] <chterrazas> It only works inside Evolution
[10:43] <chterrazas> 0(
[10:48] <sportmankid> how do i ki11 x
[10:48] <marcster> init 3
[10:49] <sportmankid> so ki11 init 3?
[10:49] <crimsun> no
[10:49] <sportmankid> and how do i get to term from there?
[10:49] <crimsun> sportmankid: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[10:50] <crimsun> marcster: Ubuntu, like Debian, doesn't play runlevel games (by default)
[10:50] <ULBT`> anyone alive?
[10:50] <kremonte> having a problem installing; the partitioner won't open :'(
[10:51] <marcster> i se
[10:51] <marcster> my bad
[10:51] <kremonte> any ideas? it 'starts up' the partitioner, then leaves me there
[10:52] <ULBT`> how do i set a program to start at boot up?
[10:53] <N6REJ> anyone know how to setup lbreakout to play in a lan?  it says it uses 8000 & 80001, I don't have to open those ports on the router do I?
[10:54] <kremonte> ohoo. after 19 minutes, it loaded! hurray
[10:57] <ULBT`> how do i set a program to start at boot up?
[10:57] <Truth> Can I be a certified Ubuntu expert?
[10:57] <ULBT`> how do i set a program to start at boot up?
[10:58] <Truth> Can I be a certified Ubuntu expert?
[10:58] <milksteak> no you can't.
[10:59] <Truth> Damn you, milksteak.
[10:59] <Truth> You're everywhere.
[10:59] <milksteak> <3
[10:59] <milksteak> yes
[10:59] <ajmitch> certification isn't done yet, it should be later this year
[10:59] <milksteak> I follow you!
[10:59] <Truth> ahahaa
[10:59] <fli7e> quick question: should pcmcia cards (specifically, an orinoco wireless card) automatically be detected by ubuntu?
[10:59] <ripclaw> hi all
[11:00] <fli7e> when inserted hot into a running system after boot, i mean
[11:00] <johndarkhorse> ajmitch: you mean nalioth can be officially certifiable ?   :/
[11:01] <fli7e> ....maybe it's not a quick question?
[11:02] <sportmankid> yea um that driver thing did not work
[11:02] <sportmankid> gave me the most retarded errors
[11:02] <dts_> what's the best way to get just a few packages from an "official debian mirror"
[11:02] <johndarkhorse> dts_: official debian pkgs may officially wreck your box
[11:03] <ajmitch> johndarkhorse: I might become certifiable as well :)
[11:03] <dts_> so what do i do then when i can't compile a module because of dependency problems
[11:03] <ajmitch> dts_: you install the ubuntu packages
[11:04] <sportmankid> how do you save your xwindow configuration file
[11:04] <dts_> well ubuntu doesn't have psycopg2
[11:04] <ajmitch> dts_: python-psycopg?
[11:04] <johndarkhorse> dts_: you can build all you like using debian source but binaries will not be good to use
[11:05] <fli7e> dts_, best way is to turn on universe and multiverse repositories in synaptics and get them there. as johndarkhorse hinted at, debian != ubuntu, and "official debian" packages may not behave well with ubutuntu
[11:05] <dts_> that's psycopg1
[11:05] <dts_> no unicode
[11:05] <dts_> yea it's not in multi/uni verse
[11:05] <ajmitch> dts_: debian doesn't appear to have psycopg2 either
[11:05] <fli7e> what exactly is the package?
[11:05] <johndarkhorse> dts_: you can put debian deb-src repos in your .list and have apt build from source
[11:06] <dts_> fli7e, it's a python postgres database module
[11:06] <ajmitch> only if you need to, that is :)
[11:06] <fli7e> then you might be alright getting it somewhere else.
[11:06] <dts_> johndarkhorse,
[11:06] <dts_> how do i find the source files for what i need then
[11:06] <ajmitch> dts_: so you need build-dependencies for psycopg2? what do you need to get from debian?
[11:06] <dts_> this is what i ge t when compiling
[11:06] <dts_> error: Note that psycopg needs the module headers and not just the module
[11:06] <dts_> error: itself. If you installed Python or mx.DateTime from a binary package
[11:06] <dts_> error: you probably need to install its companion -dev or -devel package.
[11:07] <ajmitch> dts_: please, don't paste it here
[11:07] <dts_> sorry
[11:07] <dts_> well the specific dependency is pythons datetime module
[11:07] <ajmitch> which suggests that you get python-dev
[11:07] <dts_> which is installed but doesn't have the def
[11:07] <dts_> dev
[11:08] <ajmitch> right
[11:08] <Nik__> any idea why my desktop clock is ticking super fast? the seconds are increasing 3x as fast as they should be
[11:08] <ajmitch> it needs headers from there?
[11:08] <dts_> yep
[11:08] <Manifold> Morning..
[11:08] <Manifold> cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup1
[11:08] <Manifold> cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/fstab_backup1': Permission denied
[11:08] <Manifold> How do I get access?
[11:08] <dts_> Manifold sudo cp /etc/fstab ...
[11:08] <Hobbsee> Manifold: stick sudo in front of it
[11:09] <Manifold> Alright.
[11:09] <dts_> so how do i get to the source packages?
[11:09] <deFrysk> dts_, apt-get source -d
[11:09] <ajmitch> dts_: for mxdatetime, apt-get source python-egenix-mxdatetime
[11:10] <sportmankid> how do i restart x
[11:10] <sportmankid> im in it now
[11:10] <sportmankid> i want to just restart it
[11:10] <ajmitch> however I'm not sure how useful that will be, it appears to have few C headers (eg mx.h)
[11:10] <dts_> ajmitch, so if i installed that i'd get the headers you think?
[11:10] <deFrysk> sportman, ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:10] <samitheberber> What IRC client you use?
[11:10] <dts_> hmm
[11:10] <dts_> ajmitch, won't break anything if i try?
[11:11] <ajmitch> dts_: you get that source that it was built from, not the installed headers
[11:11] <dts_> ohh
[11:11] <dts_> i thought it would build from source if you do that
[11:11] <ajmitch> then you'd still just get the binary package that's in ubuntu
[11:12] <dts_> ok, cool thanks
[11:14] <ajmitch> dts_: ah, they do have debian packaging in it, but for python2.3
[11:14] <ajmitch> dts_: you're working on breezy, I assume?
[11:14] <vega-> firefox 1.5 packaged for breezy anywhere?
[11:15] <Sturgeon> synaptic
[11:15] <dts_> ajmitch, do you think we could just get the headers for datetime and complie it ourselves
[11:15] <penguinzdr> happy new year!
[11:15] <dts_> i've done it on other machines but i didn't have the same dependency problems
[11:15] <dts_> happy new year Penguin__
[11:15] <dts_> * penguinzdr
[11:15] <laszlo> ...
[11:16] <ajmitch> dts_: it doesn't need mxdatetime headers
[11:16] <laszlo> using mdsum to verify
[11:16] <Manifold> What's the command to delete a folder?
[11:16] <dts_> rm -R folder
[11:16] <dts_> ajmitch, http://pastebin.com/485936
[11:17] <laszlo> I downloaded a package properly. does it take a long time?
[11:17] <laszlo> this is taking forever.
[11:17] <fli7e> strange question everyone: when working in terminal as root, i'd like to be able to switch back to the previous user by just typing su
[11:17] <fli7e> as opposed to "su prevuser"
[11:17] <fli7e> anyone know where/how to do that
[11:17] <laszlo> fli7e, wouldn't "exit" do that for you?
[11:17] <dts_> fli7e, what about just control-d
[11:18] <fli7e> it would, yes
[11:18] <dts_> ajmitch, you don't get that error?
[11:18] <vega-> Sturgeon: synaptic?
[11:18] <kremonte> hm. i just finished part 1 of ubuntu installation, rebooted and got grub error 17, i have winXP on my primary hd (thus with mbr) and my ubuntu install on my third hd. any suggestions?
[11:18] <ajmitch> dts_: just starting a package build now
[11:18] <fli7e> but im just wondering where i make that chage. is it in the bash config file?
[11:18] <dts_> ajmitch, interesting i didn't get that far
[11:18] <laszlo> fli7e, just type it on the command line
[11:19] <laszlo> md5sum, anyone?
[11:19] <ajmitch> dts_: give me a few minutes & I might have a breezy package for you
[11:19] <fli7e> su by itself doesnt do anything
[11:19] <dts_> fli7e, it should try to make you superuser
[11:19] <fli7e> well, yes, but i mean to switch back to regular
[11:20] <fli7e> it works to switch *to* root, but not to switch back
[11:20] <fli7e> i actually have to either type exit or "su prevuser" to get out of root... "su" by itself doesnt work
[11:21] <molinero> Happy New Year Ubuntu users!
[11:21] <dts_> fli7e, because you're supposed to type exit or hit controll + d
[11:22] <aeon17x> Is there a windows port of ogg2mp3?
[11:22] <Manifold>  /dev/Y /mnt/X ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0
[11:23] <fli7e> seems to work under fedora with bash. oh well, its not a big issue. it's not that it bothers me, its that im curious about where such changes are made to make it do that
[11:23] <Manifold> is that command safe to use in my fstab?
[11:23] <fli7e> thanks anyway though
[11:23] <kremonte> hm. i just finished part 1 of ubuntu installation, rebooted and got grub error 17, i have winXP on my primary hd (thus with mbr) and my ubuntu install on my third hd. any suggestions?
[11:23] <sobersabre> hi. is there an ubuntu build of firefox for x86_64 ?
[11:24] <sobersabre> kremonte, where have you chosen to install grub ?
[11:24] <kremonte> into the MBR
[11:24] <sobersabre> and is this a SCSI/SATA system ?
[11:24] <kremonte> nope
[11:24] <kremonte> aha! i fixed it, i think
[11:25] <sobersabre> :)
[11:25] <kremonte> my BIOS boot priority was hda > hdc >hdb!
[11:25] <sobersabre> you're good :)
[11:25] <kremonte> google ftw, thanks :)
[11:25] <kremonte> woohoo ubuntu
[11:25] <raymond> hello
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> hey
[11:26] <raymond> sry
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> its ok
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> just go to the LimeWire directory on the terminal
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> wherever u have ur LimeWire Directory
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> then iside the LimeWire directory u will find the runLime.sh
[11:27] <raymond> it is not installed so it would still be on my desktop right
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> just type on terminal "sh runLime.sh"
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> check ur desktop
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> go to ur desktop then do a "ls" and show me
[11:27] <raymond> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin  new file~
[11:27] <raymond> LimeWire                     sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[11:27] <raymond> LimeWireSoftOther.zip
[11:27] <Manifold> Where can I get codecs for the propriety formats like mp3?
[11:28] <mahangu> ubotu, tell Manifold about w32codecs
[11:28] <Sturgeon> Manifold: read the ubuntu docs
[11:28] <Sturgeon> you need to add universe and multiverse to your repositories
[11:28] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  do "cd LimeWire"
[11:28] <Manifold> Nice bot.
[11:28] <raymond> ok
[11:28] <Inf3ctedFx> now do "sh runLime.sh
[11:29] <Inf3ctedFx> now do "sh runLime.sh"
[11:29] <deFrysk> limewire.rpm works perfectly after using alien
[11:29] <deFrysk> just so you know
[11:29] <deFrysk> ;)
[11:29] <raymond> Something went wrong with LimeWire.
[11:29] <raymond> Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[11:29] <raymond> (LimeWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.4+)
[11:29] <raymond> The version of Java in your PATH is:
[11:29] <raymond> java version "1.4.2"
[11:29] <raymond> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[11:29] <mahangu> raymond, use pastebin
[11:30] <mahangu> ubotu, tell raymond about pastebin
[11:30] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  use -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:31] <cancer> hi
[11:31] <raymond> im their
[11:31] <cancer> i've a question
[11:32] <Hobbsee> cancer: ask it
[11:32] <deFrysk> !queastion
[11:32] <ubotu> deFrysk: Are you smoking crack?
[11:32] <Inf3ctedFx> whatever u need to show us just paste it there then give us the website so we can see it
[11:32] <deFrysk> !question
[11:32] <ubotu> deFrysk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:32] <kremonte> lol
[11:32] <deFrysk> tss
[11:32] <deFrysk> :s
[11:32] <deFrysk> !ask
[11:32] <raymond> k
[11:32] <cancer> i just intallt ubuntu but i hadn't to specify a root pwd
[11:32] <johndarkhorse> raymond: it's considered rude to paste, please use a pastebin next time
[11:32] <cancer> how to login as root?
[11:33] <Inf3ctedFx> cancer:  sudo -s
[11:33] <mahangu> !justask
[11:33] <mahangu> :)
[11:33] <ubotu> hmm... justask is The only thing you shouldn't ask here is, ask if you can ask. Just ask!
[11:33] <deFrysk> !sudo
[11:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[11:33] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  I believe u have the old java install
[11:33] <cancer> thx
[11:33] <raymond> crap
[11:33] <Inf3ctedFx> at that point u have to read a lot about synaptic and how to install or remove packages
[11:34] <Inf3ctedFx> is really easy raymond  but I'm kind of tire already and I'm going to bed sorry
[11:34] <raymond> ok
[11:34] <raymond> thanks
[11:34] <Sturgeon> mahangu: sorry dude, i was really triying to help,but i'm kinda very drunk right now
[11:34] <Inf3ctedFx> but u can add my msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:34] <Manifold> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[11:34] <Manifold> What's that about?
[11:34] <raymond> k
[11:37] <Inf3ctedFx> ok guys Happy new Year for all of u.. I'm leaving now.... c u guys later
[11:37] <raymond> could i install somthing that dose not use this virson of java
[11:38] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  u already have it just remove the previews version and thats all
[11:38] <raymond> ok i can do that
[11:38] <marcster> hi. how do i install kernel-sources ?
[11:38] <Inf3ctedFx> Can someone help raymond  to run LimeWire? he already install java 1.0.5 but now he has a problem with the previews java
[11:39] <bimberi> marcster: install linux-tree
[11:39] <marcster> thnks
[11:40] <bimberi> marcster: np, btw if you're compiling something (other than the kernel) you might inly need to install linux-headers-$(uname-r)
[11:40] <bimberi> *only
[11:41] <kremonte> woot! i'm on ubuntu now :D
[11:41] <bimberi> *uname -r  (needed a space) :)
[11:42] <marcster> yup. im already aware of that. thanks
[11:42] <raymond> how do i get rid of the prevous version of java
[11:42] <raymond> please help
[11:43] <raymond> how do i get rid of the prevous version of java
[11:44] <liable> with apt?
[11:44] <raymond> im a noob i dont know what that means
[11:45] <liable> how about trying to learn?
[11:45] <raymond> ok
[11:46] <bimberi> raymond: how did you install the 'previous version'?
[11:46] <raymond> some one helped me
[11:47] <raymond> i dont rilly know how
[11:47] <marcster> which java
[11:47] <comune> hello
[11:48] <raymond> the old version
[11:48] <marcster> no
[11:48] <marcster> $ which java
[11:49] <raymond> sun is the one i just upgraded to
[11:49] <marcster> um. ok.
[11:49] <comune> I'm trying to play an avi (I installed w32codecs) with totem but it can't reproduce it says that it's impossible to recognize the format.. any hint?
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> comune: avi is a package file format, it could be ANY filetype inside
[11:50] <thomas> i'm new to linux and i've a noobish question: where to install programms? is there a directory like C:/Program Files?
[11:51] <marcster> you can see what ffmpeg says about your avi tho.
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> thomas: linux has a hand's off approach to 'installing', if you use synaptic or apt, all your files will end up on the right place
[11:51] <comune> johndarkhorse, its a wmv file
[11:51] <spacey> comune, wmv plays with the win32codec package
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> comune: those are container files, too
[11:52] <spacey> maybe its H264?
[11:52] <thomas> i downloaded a pugin for eclipse and it is asking me for a location to install to
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> comune: files made with wmv9 and 10 may not play well in linux
[11:52] <comune> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-wmv, wmvversion=(int)3, framerate=(double)25, width=(int)320, height=(int)240, codec_data=(buffer)4e291a01
[11:52] <spacey> ah
[11:53] <comune> maybe it's a totem problem?
[11:53] <spacey> try xine and mplayer
[11:53] <molinero> Somebody dat het Nederlands om het even welke weinig spreekt?
[11:54] <spacey> molinero, #ubuntu-nl
[11:54] <molinero> ok spacey thanks and happy new year
[11:55] <bimberi> thomas: i would put it somewhere under /usr/local.  Maybe "sudo mkdir /usr/local/eclipse" and put it there (can always remove it if it doesn't work out)
[11:55] <chterrazas> Hi! Can anyone help me to solve a problem with the "Calendar Panel" in Gnome 2.12?
[11:55] <thomas> thx bimberi
[11:56] <comune> in fact with xine it works...
[11:56] <comune> there is a way to make totem work with xine?
[11:57] <spacey> comune, you can install totem-xine then it uses the xine backend instead of gstreamer
[11:58] <spacey> comune, and if that doesn't work: file a bug :)
[11:58] <comune> spacey, it's better? I mean..why if totem-gstreamer doesn't works is shipped with ubuntu?
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> comune: some of the codecs are patent or otw legally encumbered
[11:59] <afief> How do i make mplayer NOT use XVideo???
[12:00] <ixtok> has anyone been able to set up Parallell-Workstation?
[12:00] <Manifold> !win32 codec
[12:00] <ubotu> Manifold: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:00] <Manifold> ...
[12:01] <Manifold> !win32codec
[12:01] <ubotu> Manifold: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:01] <Pygi> !codecs
[12:01] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:01] <chterrazas> I've tryin to solve this... How to change the startin day of the week (mon) to (sun) inside the Calendar panel on gnome bar! Any ideas?
[12:01] <Pygi> !easysource
[12:01] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:03] <WizzoMaFizzo> In every linux distro I've tried there's always been a problem with games or anything that goes fullscreen, I guess it's when there is a resolution change in X, and the screen gets mixed up all over the place before I uh... "refresh" it with the laptop Fn keys. Can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[12:04] <Pygi> Wizzo: drivers for your card? :)
[12:04] <cosco> Pygi :D
[12:04] <Pygi> hoh. not cosco again :P
[12:05] <afief> How do i make mplayer NOT use XVideo???
[12:05] <cosco> =)))))
[12:05] <WizzoMaFizzo> Pygi: And how do I fix that?
[12:05] <Pygi> afief: please calm down :P
[12:05] <Pygi> Wizzo: well, what card do you have? Ati or Nvidia or ?
[12:05] <WizzoMaFizzo> Ati.
[12:05] <Pygi> afief: stand in line please, thank you....
[12:06] <Pygi> !ati
[12:06] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:06] <Pygi> go there :)
[12:06] <WizzoMaFizzo> So if I get that it should be ok?
[12:06] <afief> pygi: okay
[12:06] <Pygi> yesh
[12:06] <WizzoMaFizzo> Ok thanks.
[12:06] <Pygi> yw
[12:08] <cosco> Pygi #chat.with.pygi.boy
[12:08] <Pygi> no, I won't help you again....
[12:08] <Pygi> enough for this year :P
[12:08] <WizzoMaFizzo> Pygi: Will these all hold true with a mobile Ati card?
[12:08] <cosco> lol
[12:08] <cosco> ^^
[12:08] <cosco> common
[12:09] <Pygi> Wizzo: it should....
[12:09] <cosco> one more time
[12:09] <cosco> :D
[12:09] <Pygi> cosco: hehe :) what's the problem this time?
[12:09] <cosco> Pygi cedega
[12:09] <cosco> ;D
[12:09] <cosco> Pygi brb
[12:10] <Pygi> cosco: oh, no, I ain't gonna help you with Cedega.... Cedega from cvs is buggy, and the other one is not free :P
[12:10] <cosco> Pygi i bought it  :D
[12:10] <Pygi> cosco: ok, so what seems to be an issue?
[12:11] <cosco> cosco@cosco:/media/windows/games/cs1.6$ cedega hl.exe
[12:11] <cosco> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:11] <cosco>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2583, in ?
[12:11] <cosco>     config_file_to_use = str("cedega_" + Point2Play_ref.default_winex)
[12:11] <cosco> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects
[12:11] <cosco> this seems to be the problem
[12:11] <Pygi> huh, don not paste....
[12:11] <Pygi> bad thingy :/
[12:11] <cosco> heh :)
[12:11] <Pygi> huh, no, and no, it doesnt work that work
[12:12] <cosco> ok .. me lost
[12:12] <cosco> repeat pls :D
[12:12] <Pygi> afief: your turn now :) you here?
[12:12] <Pygi> cosco: it won't work that way....
[12:12] <cosco> Pygi why?
[12:12] <Pygi> cosco: basicly because it's not intented to work this way :P
[12:12] <Pygi> afief: ping??
[12:13] <cosco> u dont love me :(
[12:13] <cosco> :) :D :P :>
[12:13] <Pygi> huh
[12:13] <afief> pygi: thanks:) my video driver apparently doesn't support XV, so i changed it all to X11(w/o XV) but i still get a blue screen in mplayer behind the video screen
[12:13] <Pygi> afief: k, go to ~/.mplayer/config
[12:14] <Pygi> find this line: "vo=xv"
[12:14] <Pygi> then please put "#" in front of it
[12:14] <afief> yup have it
[12:14] <Pygi> you puted #?
[12:15] <afief> yes
[12:15] <Pygi> k, now try mplayer if it works...
[12:15] <Pygi> and if not, try restarting X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:15] <antix> any way to show files not belonging to a package?
[12:15] <Pygi> cosco: you need to install game under cedega, not to run one under existing partition....
[12:16] <nameeater> !mp3
[12:16] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:17] <Pygi> afief: did it?
[12:17] <afief> pygi: nope, will restart xorg now
[12:17] <Pygi> k
[12:17] <cosco> Pygi i refuse :D
[12:17] <Pygi> cosco: your choice....
[12:17] <spikeh> I've installed libwavpack0 and wavpack, amaroK is still unable to decode .wv files
[12:17] <cosco> Pygi i will play CS on linux with this cedege without installing it :)
[12:17] <spikeh> has anyone managed to get the wavpack decoder working?
[12:17] <cosco> u cannot stop me ^^
[12:17] <Pygi> cosco: then play....
[12:18] <cosco> Pygi :) :D :P :> :D :) :P :>
[12:18] <thegladiator> how do i change the properties of nautilus such that , it doesnt preview pdf files but image files and video files only
[12:19] <kremonte> does ubuntu come with alsa?
[12:19] <kremonte> er, alsa come with ubuntu
[12:19] <thegladiator> yes
[12:19] <kremonte> k, thanks :-)
[12:19] <Manifold> Ello.
[12:19] <thegladiator> how do i change the properties of nautilus such that , it doesnt preview pdf files but image files and video files only
[12:19] <fabio> yo
[12:19] <thegladiator> heylo
[12:20] <Manifold> !codecs
[12:20] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:20] <Manifold> !easysource
[12:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:21] <spikeh> I've installed libwavpack0, wavpack and gstream0.8-wavpack, yet amaroK is still unable to decode .wv files; has anyone managed to get the wavpack working?
[12:21] <Manifold> I converted all mine to FLAC recently, so not me..
[12:21] <Manifold> :]
[12:21] <Matis> how can i exit from man?
[12:21] <johndarkhorse> Matis: "q"
[12:22] <thegladiator> hey someone please enlighten me on removing the preview thing from pdf files in nautius
[12:22] <spikeh> I've transcoded Monkey's Audio to FLAC, but WavPack is natively superior to FLAC so I don't want to transcode it
[12:22] <Pygi> gladiator: hey, please wait :P
[12:22] <thegladiator> pdf preview is really weird
[12:22] <Pygi> root: please exit....do not come here as root....
[12:22] <thegladiator> yep Pygi
[12:22] <root> can someone help me, im trying to apt-get install nvidia-glx, but it just gets stuck at getting headers ?
[12:22] <thegladiator> i am hold
[12:22] <thegladiator> on*
[12:22] <Pygi> root: please login as ussual user....NOT root
[12:22] <root> err, ill do as i like ta ;P
[12:23] <thegladiator> pdf files vary in their size an content hence it is annoying to browse to folders with pdf files
[12:23] <Xaios> Hi, Is there a way for me to delete a windows partition from an ubuntu live cd? I had a problem with norton ghost and I need to get rid of the ghost's virtual partition
[12:23] <Manifold> spikeh, I did it because I randomly had errors compiling from .wav
[12:23] <Pygi> root: huh, then somebody will hack you as he likes it.....
[12:23] <thegladiator> omg! root you are lucky ro be here
[12:23] <Manifold> But only with .wv
[12:23] <Draken> pygi, i have a hardware firewall
[12:23] <Pygi> root: you are still root, please relogin
[12:23] <Pygi> but you are root, that's VERY bad
[12:23] <Draken> sigh noobs
[12:23] <Pygi> please exit and relogin :P
[12:23] <thegladiator> most of the distro channels dont allow root to login actually .
[12:23] <Pygi> lol
[12:24] <Pygi> yea, I am newb :)
[12:24] <Kindred> I could change my ident to root, doesn't mean I am :P
[12:24] <Pygi> afief: any luck?
[12:24] <thegladiator> i guess ubuntu didnt have to think of that as there is nothing called root
[12:24] <afief> pygi: X didn't restart as it should, restarted the whole system. problem presistant
[12:24] <Draken> can someone help me, im trying to apt-get install nvidia-glx, but it just gets stuck at getting headers ?
[12:24] <Manifold> What's wrong with root?
[12:24] <thegladiator> loggin in as root is a bad practise . for security reasons
[12:25] <Manifold> Argh.
[12:25] <Manifold> I can't get the w32 codecs
[12:25] <HappyFool> Xaios: look for 'gparted' on the livecd -- i can't remember if it's there
[12:25] <Xaios> Hi can someone walk me though or point me to a guide that allows me to delete a vfat partition in ubuntu?
[12:25] <Manifold> :/
[12:25] <Xaios> ah thanks Happy Fool!
[12:25] <Xaios> err HappyFool thanks again!
[12:25] <HappyFool> Xaios: otherwise you can start a terminal and use 'fdisk', but do be careful
[12:25] <Manifold> Oh wait, found it.
[12:25] <thegladiator> Pygi, getting back to my ques . any clue ?
[12:26] <Xaios> Yeah I didnt want to resort to that, the last time I did that was back in 95 when installing windows 95.. haha before linux...
[12:26] <Pygi> Draken: I'll be more then glad to help you once you log off and login as normal user....
[12:26] <Xaios> err before linux became easy for noobs like me to use
[12:26] <Pygi> afief: huh :/
[12:26] <thegladiator> seriously i wonder if these ppl are on ubuntu
[12:26] <Pygi> afief: then you have problems  with X
[12:26] <Pygi> gladiator: who?
[12:26] <afief> pygi: the blue window is still there. i wouldn't mind but i can't get fullscreen with it there
[12:26] <kremonte> if i copy files from an NTFS partition to ext3, i can set them off read only, correct?
[12:26] <thegladiator> most of them who use root to login
[12:27] <thegladiator> ubuntu by default masks root and these ppl ask silly questions , well some of them , as root , which makes it very suspicious ;d
[12:27] <Pygi> gladiator: ah, well, they can actually, but heh :/
[12:27] <afief> pygi: how do i know what problem i have?:S
[12:27] <HappyFool> kremonte: if they're on the ext3 partition, you can change the permission, yes
[12:27] <Pygi> afief: you have problem with X server :P
[12:28] <johndarkhorse> cafuego: ping
[12:28] <_rYe_> i need to install ndiswrapper 1.7 and i need the package "dh_make", where is it located? i cant find it in the synaptic package manager
[12:28] <afief> pygi: yup, but what problem exactly? x seems to work fine with everything else
[12:28] <Draken> brb
[12:28] <HappyFool> _rYe_: at a guess, the 'dh-make' package
[12:29] <Pygi> afief: huh, don't know
[12:29] <Pygi> will be back
[12:29] <Madpilot> thegladiator: "what's up with the root password" is one of the most common questions on this channel... :P
[12:29] <thegladiator> pdf files vary in their size an content hence it is annoying to browse to folders with pdf files
[12:29] <Manifold> What type of package should I download to install amsn?
[12:29] <thegladiator> yeah
[12:29] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: which is why we have ubotu
[12:29] <Manifold> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/linux-downloads.php
[12:30] <thegladiator> hey someone please enlighten me on removing the preview thing from pdf files in nautius
[12:30] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: among other reasons!
[12:30] <thegladiator> i am sure this is silly thing , but i cant find where in nautilus i could change it
[12:30] <thegladiator> in kde it was damn simple
[12:30] <HappyFool> Manifold: amsn 0.94 is in the breezy repositories
[12:30] <thegladiator> but in nautilus , i cant figure out
[12:30] <_rYe_> happyfool: no such package
[12:30] <_rYe_> pls help
[12:30] <_rYe_> tnx
[12:30] <thegladiator> i hope its nothing simple that i didnt figure out
[12:31] <Hobbsee> !tell _rYe_ about info amsn
[12:31] <HappyFool> _rYe_: you probably need to setup repositories
[12:31] <Manifold> Yeah, but HappyFool, 0.95 is out now.
[12:31] <Kindred> thegladiator: there are options in the nautilus settings - previews
[12:31] <kremonte> is there any way to nest permissions? i want to set 800 files to 777
[12:31] <kremonte> and ctrl+a isn't cutting it :-)
[12:31] <Kindred> thegladiator: but I don't think you can set that individually
[12:31] <Madpilot> thegladiator: have a look in Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor - some of Nautilus's options hide there too...
[12:31] <thegladiator> Kindred, i have been there . but nothing says pdf as such
[12:32] <thegladiator> i wanted to set it individually
[12:32] <Madpilot> kremonte: open a terminal and do it there
[12:32] <thegladiator> lemme try that Madpilot
[12:32] <Manifold> amsn-0.95.x86.package should I download that?
[12:32] <Seveas> Happy 2006 everyone :)
[12:32] <Manifold> Or a deb one?
[12:32] <Madpilot> kremonte: with "chmod" - try "man chmod" in a terminal to learn more
[12:32] <Seveas> Manifold, neither
[12:32] <Seveas> Manifold, apt-get install amsn
[12:32] <kremonte> Madpilot -  thanks
[12:32] <_rYe_> happyfool: how would i do that? umy problem is i need my broadcom wireless card to be detected... im trying to install the new ndiswrapper now
[12:32] <Manifold> That's the old one.
[12:32] <Seveas> Manifold, so?
[12:33] <Xaios> Ok here is the problem, Windows wont boot because the Norton Ghost partition is selected as the boot partition how can I change this? gedit doesnt seem to work and Im not sure of the command for fdisk
[12:33] <HappyFool> _rYe_: is your computer connected to the internet at all?
[12:33] <Seveas> Xaios, you probably need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:33] <thegladiator> Madpilot, i tried out in config editor . but even there i cant see something specific to pdf
[12:33] <Madpilot> kremonte: chmod has a recursive function (-R) that will work on subdirectories & everything else in the directory you aim it at
[12:33] <Xaios> Sorry Seveas no grub here, this is a windows box :(
[12:34] <thegladiator> Kindred, suer no seperate stuff for pdf ?
[12:34] <Seveas> Xaios, then why are you lloking for help in here?!?
[12:34] <Xaios> Because Im using LInux to recover! :)
[12:34] <Madpilot> thegladiator: I've got no idea, I haven't had a problem with how Naut. shows PDF files...
[12:34] <_rYe_> Happyfool: its connected via lan... wired is working but i need my wifi to work. what would i do? im a newbie in ubuntu
[12:34] <Seveas> *sigh*
[12:34] <Xaios> and I am unfamiliar with linux tools :), sorry :(
[12:34] <Seveas> try #windows, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[12:34] <kremonte> chmod -R worked, thanks again
[12:34] <neuro|laptop> happy mailman day!
[12:34] <Xaios> Ok sorry about that
[12:35] <thegladiator> fine Madpilot
[12:35] <Kindred> thegladiator, sorry don't think so.. nautilus isn't heavily configurable
[12:35] <HappyFool> _rYe_: i'm not very familiar with wireless, but you should setup network repositories to allow to install software (like dh-make, etc.)
[12:35] <HappyFool> !tell _rYe_ about repos
[12:35] <_rYe_> happyfool: i tried using the ndiswrapper 1.1 that came with the installation, and installed the necessary drivers... driver is present and device is present but i dont see the wlan config in networking
[12:36] <Manifold> Suppose I wanted to manually install a program.
[12:36] <thegladiator> Kindred, yeah . konqueror is better
[12:36] <Seveas> _rYe_, did you 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[12:36] <Manifold> What type should I look for?
[12:36] <HappyFool> _rYe_: i can't help you much with configuring wireless, sorry
[12:36] <Seveas> _rYe_, and did you do 'sudo ndiswrapper -m' even before that?
[12:36] <Manifold> .deb, .rpm?
[12:36] <Seveas> Manifold, .deb
[12:36] <bimberi> Manifold: .deb
[12:36] <Seveas> !deb
[12:36] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:36] <Manifold> Right.
[12:36] <Manifold> Thanks.
[12:37] <thegladiator> !firefox
[12:37] <ubotu> firefox is probably a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[12:37] <_rYe_> Sevead: yep, i've done that. but still, wlan doesnt appear in the networking?
[12:37] <_rYe_> Sevead: yep, i've done that. but still, wlan doesnt appear in networking
[12:38] <Seveas> !firefox =~ s/n./n. For firefox 1.5, look at !firefox1.5/
[12:38] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[12:39] <thegladiator> !firefox1.5/
[12:39] <ubotu> thegladiator: What?
[12:39] <thegladiator> !firefox
[12:39] <ubotu> firefox is, like, totally, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation. For firefox 1.5, look at !firefox1.5
[12:39] <thegladiator> !firefox1.5
[12:39] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:40] <_rYe_> Seveas: can i use the ndiswrapper that is present in the synaptic manager... the version 1.1?
[12:40] <Manifold> !zinf
[12:40] <ubotu> Manifold: I give up, what is it?
[12:40] <Manifold> ^^
[12:41] <Manifold> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amsn:
[12:41] <Manifold>  amsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:
[12:41] <Manifold>   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.
[12:41] <KarlosII> ff rulz
[12:41] <Manifold> Now, where do I get version 4.0.1-9 from?
[12:41] <KarlosII> just dun use the debian build
[12:41] <Madpilot> Manifold: ubotu is a bot, you know?
[12:41] <Madpilot> !ubout
[12:41] <ubotu> Not a clue, Madpilot
[12:41] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[12:41] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:42] <Seveas> _rYe_, yes
[12:42] <thegladiator> is the popularity of ubuntu on the decline ?
[12:42] <Seveas> Manifold, you don't. THIS is why you use packages from the repository
[12:42] <cosco> ubotu tell cosco about cedega
[12:42] <Seveas> and not random packages from somewhere
[12:42] <Seveas> thegladiator, ?
[12:43] <thegladiator> there arent much new comes to the channel here
[12:43] <thegladiator> i was expecting like a increase in total number of ppl in the channel
[12:43] <thegladiator> like when i came in a month back it was touching 650
[12:43] <Manifold> It's not random, from the main site.
[12:43] <thegladiator> now it as consistently come down to 570's
[12:43] <Seveas> hehem it's newyears :)
[12:44] <Madpilot> thegladiator: Xmas/New Years, remember? :P
[12:44] <Seveas> yesterday there were ~600 people
[12:44] <bLaD3`ni> happy new year..
[12:44] <Seveas> 2 months ago it was 450
[12:44] <Seveas> O
[12:44] <thegladiator> yeah xmas newyear has some impact
[12:44] <Seveas> I'd say it's increasing rapidly :)
[12:44] <Seveas> A year ago it was less than hundred
[12:44] <thegladiator> gentoo touches close to 800 evryday
[12:45] <Seveas> We've had days with 700+
[12:45] <HappyFool> oh no! we're losing! call out the ninjas to defeat gentoo!
[12:45] <Manifold> Our time will come..
[12:45] <concept10> im pissed but happy new years!
[12:45] <thegladiator> wow
[12:45] <Seveas> HappyFool, emerge --unmerge gentoo
[12:45] <Seveas> :p
[12:45] <Seveas> concept10, happy new years and try to find a toilet next time ;)
[12:45] <Stew_Lappy> you could say gentoo has more people cos people need more help with it
[12:45] <thegladiator> happ new year
[12:45] <Stew_Lappy> so more people isn't a good thing maybe
[12:46] <concept10> Seveas, :)
[12:46] <Seveas> Stew_Lappy, lol :)
[12:46] <thegladiator> Stew_Lappy, yeah its a strongpoint
[12:46] <Xaios> Ok, w00t back to Ubuntu I know my solution lies within deleteing the virtual partition, the problem is GParted does not see any partition at all on the drive (!! yet fdisk does) is there a guide for fdisk to delting partitions?
[12:47] <thegladiator> ubuntu needs less help atlease you have ubotu
[12:47] <thegladiator> !botsnack
[12:47] <ubotu> :)
[12:47] <Seveas> Xaios, try cfdisk
[12:47] <HappyFool> or try 'm' for help ;) like the prompt says
[12:47] <Xaios> I thought it was --help?
[12:47] <thegladiator> are there spywares in ubuntu systems ?
[12:48] <Seveas> thegladiator, yes
[12:48] <HappyFool> ssssh, don' tell!
[12:48] <thegladiator> Seveas, how can i get rid of them ?
[12:48] <quacker> Stay  tuned BoyzNgrrls, for this episode of Distro Wars(tm) -- II Attack of the Debian Clones
[12:48] <Seveas> if you install acrobat reader from adobe itself it contains something that can be classified as spyware (long live closed source crap - NOT)
[12:48] <thegladiator> i guess it is browser based spywares
[12:48] <Manifold> Can you teach Software updates to ignore some updates?
[12:49] <thegladiator> i have adobe in this system
[12:49] <mommer> hi there. I'm having a problem with the displays. export DISPLAY=localhost:0 ; xload doesn't work. Yes, I have done xhost + already. Any ideas?
[12:50] <Madpilot> good night, all - Happy New Year!
[12:51] <Manifold> Does Kopete work with Gnome?
[12:51] <Tomcat_> Sure, why not? :)
[12:51] <Xaios> ouch cfdisk /dev/sda1 = FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive, You know what it needs to be unmounted doesnt it?
[12:51] <Manifold> It says it's a KDE Messenger.
[12:51] <Manifold> Heh..
[12:52] <thegladiator> Manifold, you might need kde library for that
[12:52] <Tomcat_> Manifold: Yes, which means you'll have to install a load of KDE libraries, but the desktop managers still run all programs of either one. :)
[12:52] <brenner> Manifold: kde apps can be used in gnome.  and vice versa
[12:52] <mommer> so, if i su to root, how can I run an X app?
[12:52] <ruaraidh> happy gnu year, everyone :D
[12:53] <Manifold> It doesn't look that good anyway.
[12:53] <Manifold> :]
[12:53] <ruaraidh> I've got a little problem with my dvd drive, any help _seriously_ appreciated
[12:53] <BullFire> hello
[12:53] <ruaraidh> Ubuntu will read cds fine
[12:54] <ruaraidh> but not dvds
[12:54] <ruaraidh> I know it's ubuntu which has the problem because I can still boot from dvd
[12:54] <BullFire> I have som problem with autoloading my network card driver
[12:54] <Viper1234> are you referring to commercial dvd video ruaraidh ?
[12:55] <mommer> network-admin is saying that my root password is wrong. But it is not! what might be wrong?
[12:55] <Manifold> Your memory. :D
[12:55] <ruaraidh> no, reading any dvd, data or video Viper 1234
[12:55] <ruaraidh> I tried sticking an entry in fstab to /dev/dvd (which I think is just a symlink to /dev/scd0 anyway)
[12:56] <ruaraidh> but I'm a total n00b so it didn't work :P
[12:56] <mommer> Manifold, no way. I've double / triple checked. If i type it at the console it works.
[12:56] <HappyFool> mommer: i think admin stuff run from ubuntu gnome menus use sudo, not su
[12:57] <mommer> oh, so I need my password? duh
[12:57] <vega-> mommer: you need to type your user password, NOT the root password
[12:57] <BullFire> when I'm using #modprobe ipg it works fine but when I type ipg in /etc/modules it does'nt work?
[12:57] <ruaraidh> I tried manually mounting /dev/dvd at /media/cdrom0 and /media/dvd
[12:57] <mommer> ok thx :o)
[12:57] <ruaraidh> but that just hung
[12:57] <Manifold> 'Add Applications' is a bit bugged.
[12:57] <ruaraidh> any ideas?
[12:57] <HappyFool> ruaraidh: take a look at dmesg for error messages
[12:57] <Manifold> Sometimes, it hangs after installing programs.
[12:57] <HappyFool> ruaraidh: either 'dmesg|tail' or 'less /var/log/dmesg'
[12:57] <ruaraidh> good idea, brb
[12:59] <BullFire> anyone?
[01:00] <ruaraidh> hmm... "[4297608.760000]  ata2: PIO error, drv_stat 0xd0
[01:00] <ruaraidh> "
[01:01] <ruaraidh> Like I said, newbie here, but that looks relevant?
[01:04] <ruaraidh> I googled around a bit, got an unanswered thread on the ubuntu forums, which is similar but different enough not to be really relevant
[01:05] <Raj> hello all
[01:06] <thegladiator> jai hind raj
[01:06] <Raj> a very happy new year to all of you
[01:06] <Raj> jai hind gladiator
[01:06] <thegladiator> same to you
[01:06] <bladedge> damit
[01:06] <bladedge> i cant mount my ntfs part again
[01:06] <Raj> ? @ blade
[01:06] <bladedge> any help plz
[01:06] <ruaraidh> I suppose I can just get a usb dvd drive on the cheap in the january sales...
[01:06] <HappyFool> ruaraidh: try googling for your mainboard and dvd drive (and linux); maybe it's a known problem. this is outside my knowledge
[01:06] <bladedge> well i cant mount a ntfs partition damit
[01:06] <thegladiator> where are you fro Raj
[01:06] <Raj> Bangalore
[01:06] <thegladiator> cool
[01:06] <ruaraidh> Thanks anyway :o)
[01:07] <Raj> and u gladiator?
[01:07] <thegladiator> Cochin
[01:07] <Raj> Cochin is my native
[01:07] <Raj> my parents are from there
[01:07] <thegladiator> really ?
[01:07] <Raj> yes
[01:08] <thegladiator> raj > have you registered at freenode server ?
[01:08] <thegladiator> if yes , we have chat in private
[01:08] <HappyFool> bladedge: how are you trying to do the mount?
[01:08] <thegladiator> could
[01:08] <thegladiator> whats the mount command bladedge  ?
[01:08] <Raj> nope
[01:08] <bladedge> ./mount n all that
[01:08] <bladedge> i dunno
[01:09] <Raj> gladiator how to I register in the free node server
[01:09] <bladedge> can ya get me the command plz?
[01:09] <thegladiator> simple .
[01:09] <thegladiator> wait a sec
[01:09] <bladedge> like i cant remember the good command
[01:09] <bladedge> i did it yesturday
[01:09] <bladedge> damitr
[01:09] <HappyFool> !tell bladedge about windowsdrives
[01:10] <bladedge> thnx dood
[01:10] <thegladiator> "/msg nickserv REGISTER <password>"
[01:10] <thegladiator> raj that shud do it
[01:11] <thegladiator> jus check out and mayb it might ask for email in the command as well . in that case nickserv will give you the appropriate error.
[01:11] <Raj> thx
[01:12] <thegladiator> freenode doesnt permit non identified users to communicate with each other
[01:12] <HappyFool> like you're doing now ?
[01:12] <thegladiator> nope
[01:12] <HappyFool> ;)
[01:12] <thegladiator> direct comm.
[01:12] <HappyFool> you can always create your own channel
[01:12] <thegladiator> Happy what ? ...oh kk :p
[01:13] <chema> Happy new year, where is the unestable repositories of Debian. I nedd to add to my sources.list
[01:13] <chema> ?
[01:13] <HappyFool> adding debian unstable to an ubuntu repo list is probably a bad idea
[01:14] <thegladiator> raj : please check the pbt message i send u
[01:15] <chema> Only for a few programs, please, anyelse can say me where is the repository?
[01:16] <thegladiator> hi sexcopter8000m , i have always fancied ur nick
[01:16] <Viper1234> um....i thought linux was 'open'.  if the guy just needs an address to the DEBIAN stuff......why not just get it to him?  If he knows ENOUGH to ask about it, he's probably not a noob. sheesh what is this, the MS ubuntu forums?
[01:16] <brenner> chema: what do you need?  like HappyFool says, you risk breakage
[01:17] <santanu_> how do I play a binary image of a VCD using totem(gstreamer/xine)? mplayer plays it fine.
[01:17] <kent> is there a deb package for gaim 2.0 beta for ubuntu somewhere?
[01:17] <brenner> Viper1234: ubuntu is not debian.
[01:17] <santanu_> sorry for repeating the question. I got disconnected.
[01:18] <Seveas> chema, anything that's in debian is in Ubuntu
[01:18] <Tomcat_> Viper1234: He can do whatever he wants, but we should warn him before breaking stuff because he'll come here and we have to fix his system then. ;)
[01:18] <Viper1234> oh that wasn't the point and you know it brenner.  I keep seeing stuff in here that has kinda' warmed me under the collar lately.
[01:18] <Seveas> do NOT use debian repositories - it WILL break your system
[01:19] <chema> It's my responsability
[01:19] <Seveas> Viper1234, if you don't like it in here you are free to leave - we do our best to help people in the way that is supported by Ubuntu
[01:19] <brenner> Viper1234: it's a valid one nonetheless
[01:19] <Seveas> chema, correct your responsibility, but we don't help breaking systems.
[01:20] <Viper1234> you mean like how 'auto' is ripped here, but NOT in the official forums?  bah. later.
[01:21] <chema> Ok, Seveas the programs that I try to install no break the system because other friends install this in a Ubuntu and don't break anything
[01:22] <chema> Some repository safe for us, with mplayer, please?
[01:22] <Seveas> mplayer is in multiverse
[01:22] <Seveas> !tell chema about repos
[01:22] <nalioth> Seveas: trolls already this year? they're starting early
[01:22] <Seveas> :)
[01:22] <HappyFool> and, iirc, it's called mplayer-386, mplayer-686 etc etc
[01:23] <brenner> nalioth: actually, i think i triggered his outburst :P
[01:23] <ajmitch> nalioth: we prefer to call them 'passionate users' ;)
[01:24] <yatesy> i don't think he was a troll, but i guess the friendlyness of the channel was overwealming ;)
[01:24] <cello_rasp> how do i manage my gnome keyrings?
[01:24] <nalioth> ajmitch: passion? in a linux user?
[01:24] <ajmitch> nalioth: it does happen
[01:25] <mebsd> can i install ubuntu without gnome
[01:25] <Seveas> sure
[01:25] <Seveas> do a server install
[01:25] <Seveas> and it doesn't install a GUI at all
[01:25] <mebsd> not server, i want work station without gnome
[01:25] <HappyFool> no gooey goodness *sniffle*
[01:25] <mebsd> just kde
[01:25] <lucasvo> mebsd: if you wan't kde, you can install kubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <Seveas> mebsd, then grab a kubuntu iso
[01:26] <mebsd> i alreaey grabbed and burnt ubuntu iso
[01:26] <lucasvo> mebsd: or do a server install, enable main repos, install xubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <Seveas> mebsd, do what lucasvo said, but install kubuntu-desktop if you want KDE
[01:26] <mebsd> with this iso?
[01:26] <Seveas> yes
[01:26] <lucasvo> mebsd: ^^ xubuntu comes with xfce4, very fast
[01:26] <mebsd> i only like fluxbox and kde
[01:26] <chema> Thanks for all, bye and happy new year
[01:27] <bladedge> HappyFool, dude
[01:27] <bladedge> it doesnt work
[01:27] <bladedge> i screwed up
[01:27] <lucasvo> mebsd: first do a server install, then you have to enable the main repository
[01:27] <bladedge> dont ya have a simple command?
[01:27] <bladedge> like pilgrim gave me one yesturday
[01:27] <bladedge> but i cant remember it
[01:27] <spacey> bladedge, what is the problem?
[01:27] <lucasvo> mebsd: then you can install kubuntu-desktop, and if you want fluxbox as well
[01:27] <bladedge> i wanna mount a ntfs partition
[01:28] <spacey> bladedge, permanently or just for one time?
[01:28] <Seveas> !ntfs
[01:28] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:28] <spacey> its pretty well described in the wiki
[01:28] <bladedge> well i dunno it doesnt matter i'll format my hdd after
[01:28] <bladedge> yeah but i screwed up
[01:28] <ajmitch> spacey: afternoon :)
[01:29] <spacey> hi ajmitch :)
[01:29] <spacey> happy new year
[01:29] <spacey> bladedge, what did you screw up?
[01:29] <bladedge> pilgrim gave me a script yesturday but i forgot it
[01:29] <bladedge> i dont really know
[01:29] <spacey> what script?
[01:29] <spacey> you don't need a script to mount an ntfs partition
[01:29] <bladedge> i dunno
[01:29] <spacey> its just one command
[01:29] <bladedge> well yeh a command sry
[01:29] <bladedge> it was a command
[01:30] <spacey> bladedge, write it down next time
[01:30] <bladedge> like ./mount drive n stuff
[01:30] <bladedge> yeah i know
[01:30] <spacey> probably something like mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[01:30] <bladedge> yeah lol thnx
[01:30] <spacey> replace device etc. if needed
[01:31] <bladedge> dang
[01:31] <bladedge> it doesnt find the -t command
[01:31] <mwe> t command?
[01:31] <spacey> -t is a parameter to mount
[01:31] <bladedge> yeah
[01:31] <CptS> hi, i have an isa sound card which ubuntu doesn't recognize, can someone help me set it up or refer me to a link?
[01:31] <bladedge> brb, imma reboot, as i am on the live cd
[01:31] <bladedge> it will all clear up
[01:32] <mwe> spacey: you're supposed to type 'mount -t ntff /dev/hda1 /media/windows'
[01:32] <mwe> spacey: ntfs*
[01:32] <hyakuhei> ff?
[01:32] <hyakuhei> heh
[01:32] <Seveas> NT F*ed Filesystem ;)
[01:32] <HappyFool> as in, why ntffs ?
[01:33] <mwe> Seveas: gg
[01:33] <thomas> how to make make-3.80 without make?
[01:33] <Seveas> apt-get install make
[01:33] <Seveas> !info make
[01:33] <ubotu> make: (The GNU version of the "make" utility.), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.80-9 (breezy), Packaged size: 419 kB, Installed size: 1076 kB
[01:34] <thomas> !info make: event not found
[01:34] <Seveas> no, look at what ubotu said :)
[01:34] <CptS> anyone? help on isa soundcard setting up (Vibra16) ?
[01:34] <HappyFool> thomas: why do you want to make make?
[01:35] <hyakuhei> !glade
[01:35] <ubotu> hyakuhei: I don't know
[01:35] <hyakuhei> ubotu: chocolate teapot
[01:35] <ubotu> hyakuhei: I give up, what is it?
[01:35] <HappyFool> heh. "how do you make make make make?"
[01:35] <Seveas> HappyFool, :|
[01:36] <mwe> HappyFool: type make in the make dir of the version of make you wanna mak
[01:38] <sexcopter8000m> thegladiator, hehe, thanks
[01:38] <thegladiator> :)
[01:41] <bladedge> oki backs
[01:42] <bladedge> oki so whats the command again plz?
[01:42] <mwe> how do you make make make make and not make make make make errors?
[01:42] <bladedge> talkin bout me ?
[01:43] <bladedge> guys
 probably something like mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[01:43] <ajmitch> mwe: getting a bit offtopic now :)
[01:44] <bladedge> something like that yes
[01:44] <bladedge> it had like something more at the end
[01:44] <werty> anyone plz help me out with my pen pad
[01:45] <thomas> i don't get it. i'm new to linux. what's the ordinal way in linux to get to software like the new version of grub? and how to install it???
[01:45] <tristan> thomas : to use Synaptic is the best way when you're new to linux
[01:46] <CptS> Please, can anyone help me configure the soundcard??
[01:46] <Matis> HI EVERYBODY I GOT 2 DAYS USING LINUX, I AM NW =), I AM READING SOME TEXT, AND I WANTED TO KNOW, IF ANYBODY COULD TELL ME WHERE TO DOWNLOAD SOME EXERCICES, BUT EXERCICES FOR NWS =D, COULD SOMEONE HELP ME?
[01:46] <HappyFool> ow my eyes!
[01:46] <cello_rasp> damn.
[01:46] <nalioth> Matis: check your caps lock
[01:46] <HappyFool> bladedge: well, that's all spacey said
[01:46] <bladedge> zell thnx
[01:46] <nalioth> Matis: and make sure it is off
[01:47] <werty> anyone help me out with my pen pad.. i have bought it 3 months and havent used it since then in linux
[01:47] <cello_rasp> i have a bunch of invalid network places under network:/// but i cant remove them... help!
[01:47] <HappyFool> bladedge: if you like, you can put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' and 'mount' on the pastebin (do *not* paste here)
[01:47] <bladedge> lol yeh oki
[01:47] <HappyFool> bladedge: then i can probably tell you the exact command
[01:48] <werty> noone??
[01:49] <murr> i have GDM and KDM installed. how can i choose which one is used?
[01:49] <bladedge> well yeah go ahead plz if ya got the time
[01:49] <apokryphos> murr: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:49] <HappyFool> bladedge: it's on the pastebin?
[01:49] <bladedge> like i wanna mount the hda3
[01:49] <bladedge> terminal
[01:49] <CptS> so much for community support here. :( i guess i'll try another distro.
[01:49] <murr> apokryphos: thank you :)
[01:50] <HappyFool> CptS: if we lack knowledge, we cannot help. i have no idea how to configure an ISA sound card
[01:50] <bladedge> im on the term
[01:50] <HappyFool> bladedge: can you cut-and-paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:51] <bladedge> oki 10 secs gonna see if it works
[01:51] <mebsd> how to edit grub so it boots initrd and then vilinuz of ubuntu
[01:51] <werty> hi there can anyone help me with my pen pad..
[01:51] <bladedge> oki
[01:51] <bladedge> it says it doesnt exist
[01:51] <HappyFool> mebsd: the file to edit is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:52] <HappyFool> bladedge: what doesn't exist?
[01:52] <bladedge> the mount point
[01:52] <bladedge> do i create the file?
[01:52] <mebsd> HappyFool: i know but what entry should i put for initrd
[01:52] <mwe> bladedge: then you have to make the mount point
[01:52] <HappyFool> mebsd: just a sec
[01:52] <mwe> bladedge: right
[01:52] <bladedge> oki
[01:52] <chema> there are some fork the mplayer with gtk2?
[01:53] <mwe> bladedge: it's supposed to be a directory
[01:53] <bladedge> done
[01:53] <bladedge> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[01:53] <bladedge>        missing codepage or other error
[01:53] <bladedge>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:53] <bladedge>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:53] <bladedge> this stinks
[01:53] <mwe> bladedge: what did you type, exactly?
[01:54] <mwe> bladedge: btw. people get pissed if you paste in here
[01:54] <Hellsashes>  bladedge: you're trying to mount hda3?
[01:54] <bladedge> yes
[01:54] <bladedge> oh damit
[01:54] <Hellsashes> well, from what I see there its hda1
[01:54] <bladedge> i put the hda1 lol
[01:54] <bladedge> sry
[01:54] <bladedge> brb
[01:54] <Hellsashes> hehehe ;) no problem
[01:54] <HappyFool> mebsd: for starters, the grub manual is here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[01:55] <HappyFool> mebsd: i'm going to put some entries from my menu.lst on the pastebin, just a second
[01:55] <bladedge> damit
[01:55] <nalioth> bladedge: please use a pastebin. pasting in irc channels is rude
[01:55] <bladedge> noz i dont have the permisson should i rewrite the permissions in the g file?
[01:55] <bladedge> now*
[01:56] <bladedge> well im not gonna paste
[01:56] <HappyFool> mebsd: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6443
[01:56] <HappyFool> mebsd: hacking grub's menu.lst should not usually be necessary
[01:58] <mebsd> HappyFool: thanks alot
[01:58] <mebsd> HappyFool: i didn't install grub booter so im adding it now
[01:59] <bladedge> dang
[01:59] <bladedge> i cant read it
[01:59] <bladedge> no pemissions
[01:59] <CountGentoo> will setting noexec on /var break Linux?
[02:00] <TTilus> is it possible to tell apt(itude) only include certain packages from a (bigger) repo?
[02:01] <bladedge> how do i edit pemissions plz
[02:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell TTilus about pinning
[02:01] <mebsd> chmod
[02:01] <nurfe> bah getting enlightenment was a pain in the ass :/
[02:01] <TTilus> nalioth: mm, that thing was called pinning  :)
[02:01] <TTilus> nalioth: thanks!
[02:02] <TTilus> bladedge: chown, chmod, chgrp?
[02:02] <bladedge> oki ty
[02:02] <bladedge> n what do i add ?
[02:02] <nalioth> bladedge: be very careful what you chmod, you can ruin your box with one press of the <enter> key
[02:03] <bladedge> i mean for it to edit the permissions on a specific drive
[02:03] <bladedge> yeah i know but my box is currently running on the live cd
[02:03] <HappyFool> mebsd: what I sent you is not ideal. the 'correct' menu.lst has extra stuff for easy kernel updates
[02:04] <bladedge> ??
[02:05] <mebsd> HappyFool: at least it boots ubuntu now
[02:06] <mebsd> hmm i have no /boot/grub/
[02:06] <HappyFool> i think /boot/menu.lst might work too
[02:07] <HappyFool> read the manual ;)
[02:07] <GTroy> anyone know of an avi joiner app?
[02:07] <GTroy> rar keeps putting out multiple avi
[02:07] <mebsd> i don't have man command
[02:08] <mebsd> wait, i have it
[02:08] <yatesy> mebsd: you've seriously screwed your system if you don't :)
[02:08] <HappyFool> mebsd: i gave you a url earlier
[02:09] <mebsd> it's now installing packages
[02:09] <mebsd> i think im doing fine , i hope
[02:09] <mebsd> already taken 2.0G
[02:10] <mebsd> i don't know what's taking 2G in this default installation
[02:10] <vega-> anyone know of a gqview-like app for kde?
[02:10] <mebsd> vega-: konqueror
[02:11] <mebsd> wait, aren't you supposed be using gnome
[02:11] <mahangu> how can i see the size of a dir?
[02:11] <mebsd> du
[02:11] <brenner> mebsd: nice to see another gqview fan
[02:11] <mahangu> of all the files in the dir?
[02:11] <JDahl> mahangu, du -h <dir>
[02:12] <mebsd> du -ch <dir>
[02:13] <RabidSnail> when I try sudo apt-get install buld-essential I get The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:13] <RabidSnail>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[02:13] <RabidSnail>                             libc-dev
[02:13] <RabidSnail>                    Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[02:13] <RabidSnail> E: Broken packages
[02:13] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: do not paste in here.
[02:13] <mebsd> ok, how to install baghira
[02:13] <RabidSnail> sorry
[02:13] <mebsd> for gnome
[02:14] <cello_rasp> are there any good cbr readers for ubuntu?
[02:14] <mebsd> how to list all packages i have installed
[02:14] <apokryphos> dpkg -l
[02:14] <bladedge> dang
[02:14] <RabidSnail> has anybody had a problem installing build-essential
[02:14] <RabidSnail> ?
[02:15] <mebsd> how to install fluxbox
[02:15] <brenner> vega-: you do know that you can use gtk apps in kde right?
[02:15] <bladedge> guys like i need to mount the partitions to backup everything i have
[02:15] <mebsd> apt-get?
[02:15] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: track down the root of the problem. Individually try to install those, and see what's going wrong.
[02:15] <deFrysk> RabidSnail, mixed repos ?
[02:15] <bladedge> so i could try to get my comp back up
[02:15] <apokryphos> !tell mebsd about fluxbox
[02:15] <RabidSnail> I reverted back to the default sources.list
[02:15] <vega-> brenner: sure, just trying to find counterparts for a few gnome apps
[02:16] <deFrysk> RabidSnail, reverted back too late then
[02:16] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: heh, if you did that after you mucked up your package system it wouldn't help much
[02:16] <brenner> vega-: righto
[02:18] <bladedge> guys
[02:18] <RabidSnail> I had run easy breezy, which changed my sources.list
[02:18] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: easybreezy wouldn't muck up your package management system
[02:18] <mebsd> shoot
[02:18] <apokryphos> I'd think you'd done other things too
[02:18] <mebsd> what's the root password
[02:19] <apokryphos> !root
[02:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[02:19] <mebsd> with default installation
[02:19] <yatesy> whatever you set it too
[02:20] <mebsd> sudo passwd?
[02:20] <apokryphos> mebsd: why do you want to set a root pass?
[02:20] <mebsd> that's dumb
[02:20] <mebsd> i need to apt-get install , so i login as root?
[02:20] <apokryphos> mebsd: read the wiki entry
[02:20] <apokryphos> you use sudo, not su.
[02:20] <mebsd> why
[02:21] <apokryphos> because it's a superior model
[02:21] <mebsd> i need to type sudo before all commands?
[02:21] <apokryphos> (and it's the one Ubuntu adopted)
[02:21] <apokryphos> mebsd: yes, or go into a root shell with sudo -i
[02:22] <bladedge> guys
[02:22] <mebsd> i already gave a new password to root
[02:22] <bladedge> how do i got in root from the live cd ?
[02:22] <Syner> b
[02:22] <apokryphos> !tell bladedge about root
[02:23] <thegladiator> bladedge, simple do sudo su
[02:23] <bladedge> oki ill tyr
[02:23] <bladedge> tyr*
[02:23] <bladedge> ops
[02:23] <thegladiator> try*
[02:23] <apokryphos> thegladiator: the recommended method is sudo -i
[02:23] <apokryphos> no need to use su
[02:23] <thegladiator> sudo -i or sudo -s
[02:24] <thegladiator> chose any .
[02:24] <apokryphos> they're not the same thing
[02:24] <apokryphos> sudo -i sets up the environment more appropriately
[02:24] <thegladiator> apokryphos, i see
[02:24] <bladedge> yes but i wanna get the graphical interface to run on root
[02:24] <thegladiator> yes go with sudo -i then .
[02:24] <bladedge> oki ty
[02:24] <thegladiator> bladedge, hm thats not needed
[02:24] <johnny> everything is sudo
[02:24] <johnny> only in ubuntu
[02:25] <bladedge> i need that to access my ntfs partition
[02:25] <thegladiator> bladedge, most of the things can be done with sudo
[02:25] <bladedge> to backup my files
[02:25] <afief> How can i check what exact arch my CPU is? (386,586....etc)
[02:25] <apokryphos> bladedge: that's not advised, both by gnome and kde desktop environments. You should generally try to restrict root access to CLI, but if you *need* to use GUI with it, then use gksudo/kdesu
[02:25] <bladedge> yes indeed but im not really an expert in linux
[02:25] <thegladiator> gotcha . i did that for my fat parition uing sudo
[02:26] <vega-> apokryphos: sudo -i equals sudo su - ?
[02:26] <afief> bladedge: sudo nautilus
[02:26] <bladedge> oki ty
[02:26] <bladedge> it cant open the displat
[02:26] <bladedge> display*
[02:26] <apokryphos> vega-: no, because of other sudo conventions, it acts differently
[02:27] <bladedge> oki done
[02:27] <bladedge> ty
[02:27] <thegladiator> sudo -i = sudo -s ?
[02:27] <afief> is there a way to know what exact arch my CPU is?
[02:27] <apokryphos> thegladiator: no. man sudo
[02:27] <thegladiator> k
[02:28] <HappyFool> afief: tried 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' ?
[02:28] <afief> happyfool: nope, still a linux noob and trying to find my way:) will try now
[02:28] <johnny> what's the advantage of using initrd
[02:29] <afief> happyfool: cpu family 6 model 16. but what does that mean? do i have a 686 CPU?
[02:29] <HappyFool> afief: um
[02:30] <HappyFool> i don't know, sorry
[02:30] <apokryphos> afief: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep name ...is?
[02:30] <sebas_> nasss
[02:31] <sebas_> una preguntita donde puedo conseguir el compilador cc ?
[02:31] <bladedge> dang
[02:31] <bladedge> lost the mounting command again
[02:31] <bladedge> this is gettin on my nerves
[02:31] <apokryphos> sebas_: Spanish?
[02:31] <afief> apokryphos: intel pentium M 1.6GHz
[02:31] <mahangu> is sending something to /dev/null the same as rm?
[02:32] <apokryphos> afief: then you want linux-686, yes.
[02:32] <bladedge> apokryphos, can ya plz resend the mounting command?
[02:32] <apokryphos> mahangu: yes
[02:32] <sebas_> ahhhhhh ok this canal is in ingles
[02:32] <afief> apokryphos: thank you. is there a way to get a 686 kernel readily built or do i have to compile my own?
[02:32] <apokryphos> bladedge: don't recall any mounting command
[02:32] <mahangu> whoa cat /dev/null is scary :o
[02:33] <bladedge> nope
[02:33] <apokryphos> afief: sure -- just install linux-686
[02:33] <carlzberg> #cebu
[02:33] <thegladiator> sebas_, ste es canal ingls
[02:33] <apokryphos> afief: complete Linux kernel
[02:33] <bladedge> i got one of the partitions mounted but not the other one
[02:33] <afief> apokryphos: apt-get install linux-686?
[02:33] <apokryphos> afief: yes, or use synaptic
[02:33] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:33] <sebas_> where I can unload compiler cc?
[02:33] <mahangu> apokryphos, is there a wiki page which describes compiling your own kernel?
[02:34] <apokryphos> sebas_: unload? Unninstall?
[02:34] <afief> apokryphos: thanks, i prefer command line. old fedora habbits
[02:34] <thegladiator> mahangu, does update offer the latest kernel ?
[02:34] <apokryphos> mahangu: yup
[02:34] <mahangu> thegladiator, mostly for kicks
[02:34] <thegladiator> or is it that nto wehat you want ?
[02:34] <thegladiator> cool
[02:34] <apokryphos> afief: Fedora is notoriously pretty GUI :P
[02:34] <thegladiator> just wondering
[02:34] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:34] <sebas_> where I can unload compiler cc?
[02:35] <mahangu> thegladiator, i should probably install breezy on my extra partition for itright
[02:35] <sebas_> where I can obtain compiler cc?
[02:35] <afief> apokryphos: i enjoied it:) but hell, rpms are hard to manage
[02:35] <mahangu> i might dist upgrade to dapper
[02:35] <mahangu> :o
[02:35] <mahangu> sebas_, you mean gcc?
[02:35] <apokryphos> mahangu: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCompileHowto
[02:35] <bladedge> hehe got it thnx
[02:35] <bladedge> a lot
[02:35] <mahangu> apokryphos, gracias
[02:35] <mebsd> ubuntu froze
[02:35] <thegladiator> cc is rarely used i guess
[02:35] <thegladiator> gcc is the in thing these days
[02:35] <apokryphos> afief: Fedora does indeed have some nice things, but the repository system is lacking, both in size and often not up-to-date as quickly.
[02:35] <raphink> mebsd: heh its winter ;)
[02:35] <mahangu> oh another thing. i apt-getted kubuntu-desktop and now my bootsplash says kubuntu
[02:35] <mahangu> eck
[02:35] <apokryphos> sebas_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:36] <mahangu> how can i go back?
[02:36] <mebsd> whole ubuntu no response when i type glxgears
[02:36] <apokryphos> mahangu: remove the kubuntu-artwork-usplash or whatever it's called
[02:36] <mebsd> when i run glxgears
[02:36] <raphink> mahangu: with the choices
[02:36] <raphink> hmm
[02:36] <thegladiator> mahangu, is kubuntu splash bad ?
[02:36] <thegladiator> not as good as ubuntu ?
[02:36] <apokryphos> thegladiator: it's exactly the same, but blue and says kubuntu
[02:36] <mahangu> apokryphos, says it's not installed
[02:37] <thegladiator> ah
[02:37] <mahangu> thegladiator, im a gnome fanboy, sue me
[02:37] <thegladiator> moi too
[02:37] <mahangu> gnome++
[02:37] <bladedge> so now can i get all the stuff i need from the partitions using a windows machine ? if the mounted partitions have root-only access?
[02:37] <mahangu> KDE just gets in the way

[02:37] <raphink> mahangu: sudo update-alternatives
[02:37] <thegladiator> :p
[02:37] <mahangu> apokryphos, the package is not installed
[02:37] <raphink> might let you set the usplash theme
[02:37] <raphink> imo
[02:37] <apokryphos> mahangu: hm, it really kubuntu-artwork-usplash (just checked). If it's not installed, you shouldn't be having the usplash there
[02:37] <bladedge> ??
[02:38] <mahangu> apokryphos, i see the package
[02:38] <afief> apokryphos: i object:) it never lacked the latest kernel. ubuntu is still using 2.6.10:P
[02:38] <mahangu> but it's not installed
[02:38] <mahangu> :o
[02:38] <thegladiator> bladedge, there is some command to make it open to all users
[02:38] <mebsd> how can i find the name for apps i want to run?
[02:38] <thegladiator> i am not sure
[02:38] <thegladiator> i did that though
[02:38] <raphink> mebsd: such as?
[02:38] <mahangu> is there a way i can manually set th ebootsplash?
[02:38] <apokryphos> afief: not if you upgrade to dapper, but there's consequences to running bleeding edge. I know for example that their KDE wasn't up-to-date nearly as quickly as Kubuntu's is, but they are indeed getting better, I see (from announcements)
[02:38] <mahangu> Package kubuntu-artwork-usplash is not installed, so not removed
[02:38] <raphink> mahangu: sudo update-alternatives I told you
[02:38] <ravv_> Not really an ubuntu question but: Where can i find other  unix channels  and specificall monowall-channels
[02:39] <mebsd> raphink: i want to install adesklets or gdesklets
[02:39] <apokryphos> really need to get into Kubuntu when on this channel :P
[02:39] <raphink> ravv_: if you /list channels on freenode, you'll find lots of unix related channels
[02:39] <mahangu> raphael, i have no idea how that works
[02:39] <mahangu> :o
[02:39] <mahangu> ill man it
[02:39] <afief> apokryphos: but dapper drake is hardly stable as far as i know
[02:40] <raphink> mahangu: you launch it, and it asks you quesions on alternatives in your system
[02:40] <raphink> mahangu: you can keep the default for all but the usplash, that you switch back to the ubuntu one if that's the one you want
[02:40] <bladedge> thegladiator, i dont know them unfortunatly
[02:40] <mahangu> raphink, it just gives me a list of flags
[02:40] <raphink> ah
[02:40] <apokryphos> afief: that is correct
[02:40] <raphink> wait a min
[02:41] <raphink> let's see
[02:41] <afief> apokryphos: then noobs like me don't have anything to do with it:( would have loved to try it though if i had another PC
[02:42] <bladedge> thegladiator, how could i make them accessible to all users and share em ?
[02:42] <raphink> mahangu: then try sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork
[02:42] <bladedge> on the lan?
[02:42] <raphink> grr
[02:42] <raphink> doesn't work
[02:42] <raphink> :s
[02:42] <jim> hi guys
[02:42] <raphink> mahangu: then try sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:42] <raphink> mahangu: that works  ^ ^
[02:43] <afief> apokryphos: so the repository freez has already taken place?
[02:43] <raphink> hi jim
[02:43] <mahangu> There is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so
[02:43] <mahangu> :s
[02:43] <apokryphos> afief: that's for kernel, note that other packages are updated and uploaded to breezy-backports/updates
[02:43] <mahangu> is there some way i can edit it and put my own image there?
[02:43] <bladedge> M
[02:43] <bladedge> ?**
[02:43] <raphink> mahangu: then that means you only have one usplash package so you should have the ubuntu splash
[02:44] <mahangu> wierd
[02:44] <mahangu> really really wierd
[02:44] <apokryphos> afief: nope; upstream version freeze is on the 19th
[02:44] <raphink> unless there's a pb with the kubuntu usplash package
[02:44] <raphink> mahangu: let me check the kubuntu usplash package
[02:44] <apokryphos> mahangu: try a restart; I'm pretty sure you won't get the kubu usplash
[02:44] <afief> weird, i've not got any updates for over two weeks. is that normal?
[02:44] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:44] <sebas_> THOUSAND THANKS
[02:44] <afief> apokryphos: weird, i've not got any updates for over two weeks. is that normal?
[02:44] <mahangu> apokryphos, i havent changed anything to try a restart :o
[02:44] <mahangu> but i will, after this video encodes
[02:44] <apokryphos> sebas_: np :)
[02:45] <apokryphos> afief: probably, actually. I mainly get KDE updates :D (we have another repo for that though)
[02:45] <jim> anyone have any idea how to get creative zen to work with breezy , I was able to get it to work on linspire and even had it picked up within lsongs its for a customer.
[02:45] <drageris> hi
[02:46] <mahangu> oh wierd
[02:46] <mahangu> i executed usplash
[02:46] <mahangu> from inside X
[02:46] <mahangu> and the top of my screen is all crummy
[02:46] <mahangu> i cant kill X as well
[02:46] <freshmint> does someone know a program, that cuts long mp3-mix files into single mp3-tracks according to the information from a cue file?
[02:46] <mahangu> a video of mine is encoding
[02:46] <raphink> lol
[02:46] <afief> apokryphos: gotta try kubuntu someday... probably in april
[02:46] <jim> streamripper will break long mp3's
[02:46] <jim> into individual mp3's
[02:47] <apokryphos> afief: sounds so long away ;-), 3.5 is out now!
[02:47] <mahangu> isn't there a .conf file or smething i can edit to set my own bootsplash?
[02:47] <mebsd> man this distro is for newbie!!
[02:47] <freshmint> jim, how? i got streamripper. does it handle cue files?
[02:47] <jim> available in synaptic
[02:47] <mahangu> afief, you can try it now - apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <bladedge> guys like plz, i just need to know how i can make the mounted parts accessible to everyone and share it on the local windows network ... plw
[02:47] <jim> you may need a front end for it so go to freshmeat and look it up
[02:47] <bladedge> pls*
[02:48] <afief> mahangu: wouldn't that make problems with my Gnome desktop? i have no idea how to move from one to the other
[02:48] <mebsd> now, how can i upgrade firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5
[02:48] <mahangu> afief, nope it wouldn't, you can select a WM at login
[02:48] <mahangu> afief, i have KDE, GNOME and XFCE all on this box
[02:48] <mahangu> mebsd, you can compile your own program for now
[02:49] <jim> I have in last year set up about 30 people with ubuntu and prior to that they have never heard of linux
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, ff 1.5 will be in the dapper repos, once it is released
[02:49] <mebsd> i know i can compile my own everything
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, like i said, see above
[02:49] <bladedge> lol ya uninstall the old one and ya got fetch the 1.5
[02:49] <mebsd> so, no ff1.5 now?
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, no
[02:49] <mebsd> hmm
[02:49] <afief> mahangu: wow... will try it:) experiment date changed to next week instead of april
[02:49] <mahangu> does anybody know if some kind soul hsa compiled a .deb of ff 1.5?
[02:49] <mahangu> *HAS
[02:49] <deFrysk> mebsd, almost impossible to backport in a safe way
[02:49] <mebsd> why not.. ff 1.5 has been release long time ago
[02:49] <yatesy> install it yourself, its not hard
[02:49] <mebsd> i was using firefox 1.5 in netbsd
[02:49] <bladedge> so how do i get this thing available to everyone on the network?
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, it wasn't released when breezy shipped
[02:50] <afief> apokryphos: now i gotta see how my new 686 kernel operates. whish me luck
[02:50] <mebsd> so can i upgrade it now?
[02:50] <mahangu> afief, good luck
[02:50] <mebsd> through network?
[02:50] <mahangu> mebsd, like i said, no
[02:50] <mahangu> you can compile it
[02:50] <mebsd> how
[02:50] <mahangu> or look for a precompiled .deb
[02:50] <Knorrie> mebsd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29 ?
[02:50] <bladedge> dang ppl
[02:50] <jim> go to apt-get.org
[02:50] <bladedge> cant i just get any sharing help?
[02:50] <mahangu> jim, isn't that the debian repo?
[02:50] <jim> firefox1.5 search
[02:51] <jim> i found alot of ubuntu
[02:51] <mahangu> *search interface for the debian repo
[02:51] <jim> files in there
[02:51] <ltibor65> Where was Ubuntu made?
[02:51] <yatesy> mars
[02:51] <mebsd> made in china
[02:51] <RaethDragon> Hello
[02:51] <raphink> ltibor65: it grows in trees :)
[02:51] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:51] <jim> and I have taken some debian files and they work fine on ubuntu breezy
[02:51] <mebsd> my system is up to date!
[02:52] <sebas_> apokryphos   When doing make appears to me this:  "sebas@sebas://home/sebas/Desktop/Manual seguridad/nmap-3.95$ make make:  *** is no rule to construct to the objective ` libpcap/Makefil, necessary for ` libpcap/libpcap..  Stop."  That I make bad?
[02:52] <raphink> jim: you shouldn't use debian packages as such, but rebuild them
[02:52] <RaethDragon> I have a problem
[02:52] <ltibor65> Not in England?
[02:52] <raphink> ltibor65: why so?
[02:52] <jim> I have a athlon box set up here next to this one and I rebuild some with mixed results
[02:52] <raphink> ltibor65: Ubuntu is a south-african distribution if that's what you mean
[02:52] <jim> I did get a great jahshaka setup going
[02:52] <ajmitch> raphink: hardly south african :)
[02:53] <cello_rasp> what is the default res for fonjts in gnome?
[02:53] <mebsd> how to get baghira
[02:53] <RaethDragon> Anyone know anything about USB external hard drives?
[02:53] <raphink> jim: are they packages missing in dapper?
[02:53] <mebsd> wait, that's for kde
[02:53] <freshmint> jim, i got streamripper now. how can i cut the mp3 file?
[02:53] <raphink> mebsd: install it ;)
[02:53] <mebsd> i want to install os x theme for gnome
[02:53] <ltibor65> Also it was made in South Africa?
[02:53] <raphink> mebsd: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[02:53] <mebsd> how to do that
[02:53] <cello_rasp> reath: they work end of story :)
[02:53] <kemik_> !javadebs
[02:53] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:53] <raphink> hi ajmitch
[02:53] <RaethDragon> That's the problem, mine spontaneous went read-only!
[02:53] <cello_rasp> 9_9 ubuntu is "made" all over the world
[02:53] <raphink> ltibor65: i'm not sure one can say it was _made somewhere_
[02:54] <mebsd> why don't they put ff 1.5 in apt-get install thing
[02:54] <RaethDragon> It was running through GNOME's HAL, as usual, and it just went RO one day
[02:54] <cello_rasp> the funding comes from an SA-based company aqnd the name is swahili.
[02:54] <raphink> ltibor65: devs are from all over the world
[02:54] <RaethDragon> And it won't go back, even when I reinstalled Ubuntu
[02:55] <jim> well i searched on forums and found a guy who managed to get it up and running so I followed but it still failed the problem was libaviformat  so I synaptic it and installed the dev file omn breezy and then failed with libfaac so I installed faac from on of the plf repos and it works great
[02:55] <mebsd> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:55] <mebsd> Password:
[02:55] <mebsd> Reading package lists... Done
[02:55] <mebsd> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:55] <mebsd> E: Couldn't find package fluxbox
[02:55] <raphink> mebsd: please don't paste here
[02:55] <zamuro> I'm kinda lost... what you guys try to do?
[02:56] <mebsd> sorry
[02:56] <mebsd> so, how can i install fluxbox?
[02:56] <cello_rasp> can someone do me a favour: go to system > preferences > font > details  and tell me the resolution please\
[02:56] <raphink> mebsd: firefox 1.5 is available on ubuntu, but not in breezy if i'm not wrong ;)
[02:56] <cello_rasp> dapper... hopefully
[02:56] <yatesy> cello_rasp: what? you want us to tell you what res we're all running?
[02:56] <zamuro> mebsd: U tried downloading the source?
[02:56] <raphink> mebsd: before installing packages, you can search for them, using apt-cache
[02:56] <mahangu> mebsd, apt-cache search fluxbox
[02:56] <raphink> mebsd: apt-cache search fluxbox
[02:56] <raphink> mahangu: ;)
[02:56] <jim> jahshaka is a video editing program kinda like lives or cinelerra but less intense on hardware requirements
[02:56] <cello_rasp> yates do you know the difference between the words 'someone' and 'everyone'?
[02:57] <ltibor65> I understand, raphink, but the first steps for its development where made in South Afrika? Also the origin is south african?
[02:57] <RaethDragon> 86, mebsd, if yah wanna know
[02:57] <mebsd> returns nothing
[02:57] <yatesy> !info fluxbox
[02:57] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[02:57] <mebsd> apt-cache search fluxbox
[02:57] <mahangu> mebsd, enable all your repos
[02:57] <yatesy> as you can see, its in universe, so go add that then try again
[02:57] <mebsd> how to enable all repos
[02:57] <raphink> ltibor65: I'd say the 90% first steps are Debian's, which is also a worldwide effort
[02:57] <cello_rasp> yatesy that is somewhat \correct
[02:57] <zamuro> mebsd: go to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:58] <ltibor65> The founder was Mark Shuttleworth?
[02:58] <jim> guys anyone know if either lsongs or lphoto are going to be in dapper ?
[02:58] <mahangu> !repos
[02:58] <raphink> ltibor65: yes
[02:58] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:58] <mahangu> mebsd ^^
[02:58] <raphink> jim: arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:58] <raphink> jim: if you want Linspire, you can buy it :p
[02:59] <brasko> Hi allQ!
[02:59] <raphink> hi brasko
[02:59] <brasko> I installed ubuntu last night pretty successfully, after some help from this channel.
[02:59] <RaethDragon> Anyone have an idea why GNOME suddenly set my USB drive to RO?
[02:59] <ltibor65> Also he was the first developer as Linus Thorvals for linux-kernel.
[02:59] <jim> i have it on disk I hate its slow speed ect ect but lphoto is great to make a vcd from pictures or albums and add music
[02:59] <mahangu> jim, jahshaka, is that for ubuntu? if so where can i get it?
[02:59] <brasko> I ended up using VNC between 2 machines. I ran the server on linux, and the client is windows with realvnc.
[03:00] <brasko> THe problem is, it's really slow. The windows take a while to draw.
[03:00] <windmill> hi all , the dvd playback on my laptop using totem is quite dark, is there anyway to adjust it?
[03:00] <brasko> Anyone optimnize there vnc server that comes with ubuntu before? so that it's faster?
[03:00] <jim> ive run ubuntu since the begining but some of my customers are not too saavy so linspire for them
[03:00] <mahangu> jim, jahshaka, where can i get that?
[03:00] <arcade> hmmm.. what kind of MSN client is 'the best' for linux?  and how do i get it for ubuntu? :)
[03:00] <jim> http://www.jahshaka.org/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,45/page,viewtopic/p,2899/#2899
[03:00] <mahangu> arcade, ubuntu
[03:01] <mahangu> arcade, gaim
[03:01] <raphink> ltibor65: pm
[03:01] <jim> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104186&highlight=jahshaka
[03:01] <thegladiator> windmill, did you check totem preferences ?
[03:01] <arcade> mahangu: Does it support registering to the MSN network and everything?  Never logged onto MSN in my life. :)
[03:01] <raphink> arcade: gaim for gnome, kopete for kde, amsn if you only want msn
[03:01] <jim> theres a link to the forum in ubuntu and also jahshaka
[03:02] <thegladiator> windmill, totem menu -> edit - preferneces - display
[03:02] <mebsd> dam there's no fluxbox in synpatic package manage
[03:02] <brasko> so, anyone know how to optimize the VPN server?
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: Just want a complete MSN client for linux .. if such a thing exists.
[03:02] <RaethDragon> I'll go and find a GNOME IRC then
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: I don't use any other instant messenging except IRC ..
[03:02] <raphink> arcade: nothing more than msn ?
[03:02] <yatesy> mebsd: enable universe..............
[03:02] <mebsd> do they remove fluxbox because they want everyone use gnome?
[03:02] <cvt|gnuyear> can anyone recommend a torrent client that puts them in one window?
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: Neh, don't need anything more in the client.
[03:02] <windmill> thegladiator, you're right ;) thanks. I'm a fool!
[03:02] <jim> but if you follow it the install will start but die add faac and libfaac and it will work
[03:02] <raphink> arcade: go for amsn imo
[03:02] <mahangu> cvt|gnuyear, azureus, even though i dont use it
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: Will do.  Thanks. :9
[03:02] <mebsd> yatesy: how to do that
[03:02] <mahangu> arcade, maybe amsn will be better for that
[03:02] <yatesy> read up ffs
[03:02] <thegladiator> mebsd, ubuntu is not forcing you to even us it
[03:02] <thegladiator> mebsd, ubuntu is not forcing you to even use it . its free
[03:03] <RaethDragon> Ubuntu has it, you just have to enable the repos
[03:03] <TimMagic> hey! i have a wifi question
[03:03] <arcade> raphink / mahangu : Thanks.  Installed. :)
[03:03] <raptoid> Seveas, mucks
[03:03] <afief> mahangu: 686 up and working:) am i supposed to notice any performance changes?
[03:03] <RaethDragon> You can't fit everything onto one CD
[03:03] <mahangu> afief, i have no idea
[03:03] <mahangu> brb guys
[03:03] <raphink> arcade: k
[03:03] <mahangu> reboot
[03:03] <yatesy> afief: not really noticible
[03:03] <thegladiator> mebsd,ubuntu is working to make every package available actually
[03:03] <TimMagic> i loaded my wifi card as per the wiki, but it dodnt work so i tried again with a different card
[03:03] <yatesy> ignore him, people have helped him. but hes ignoring the help
[03:03] <arcade> Wow .. those amsn-fonts sucked.. should I install a fonts-package too?
[03:03] <brasko> Is the default vnc viewer not configurable? The GUI doesn't give many options.
[03:04] <TimMagic> is there an easy way of undoing my ramblings so i can start again?
[03:04] <mebsd> sorry i don't know what the hell im doing
[03:04] <brasko> I'm sorry, the SERVER that comes with ubuntu does not seem configurable.
[03:04] <jim> I was able to customize rhythmbox a bit added 100 shoutcast stations to it and give it a osxlike skin
[03:04] <ltibor65> raphink, how can I register me on freenod?
[03:04] <afief> yatesy: still good to know that i can get specially crafted kernels so easily
[03:04] <brasko> I wonder if there is a way to "speed it up".
[03:04] <pkern> What client is advised to connect to peer-to-peer networks (as in KaZaA or Mule)?
[03:04] <yatesy> afief: :)
[03:05] <mebsd> brasko: what server
[03:05] <thegladiator> pkern, i use phex
[03:05] <raphink> ltibor65: check pm, I told you
[03:05] <thegladiator> pkern, and for torrents i use azureues , its high on memory though
[03:05] <brasko> I did System=>Preferences=>Remove Desktop
[03:05] <jim> use gtk-gnutella for p2p go to site and get the deb file and either install direct or rebuild on ubuntu box it works great either way
[03:05] <brasko> however, when I connect to it on the same LAN, it's so slow
[03:05] <brasko> the window take several seconds to draw
[03:06] <brasko> I've used x11vncserver before, and this didn't happen
[03:06] <pkern> thegladiator: Azureus is a memory hog, that's right. What's phex? Is it graphical? Is it in Ubuntu (I didn't find it).
[03:06] <thegladiator> jim, is it a nice client ? better than phx in your opinion ?
[03:06] <cello_rasp> i need to know the default screen res for gnome... any help?
[03:06] <mebsd> fluxbox 0.9.12?
[03:06] <mebsd> not 0.9.14
[03:06] <jim> i use it all the time for uploading files got a somewhat hacking gui but it works fine
[03:06] <pkern> jim: gtk-gnutella is in Ubuntu as far as I could see?
[03:06] <ltibor65> What is pm, raphink?
[03:07] <thegladiator> pkern, mayb you shud try what jim said . phex is java based client . u need sun's jaav for that . graphicals yes . pretty nice
[03:07] <raphink> ltibor65: personal message
[03:07] <jim> yes but the version there will not connect to any servers now it is old so get newer version
[03:07] <raphink> or private message
[03:07] <raphink> not sure ;)
[03:07] <raphink> that's the same anyway
[03:07] <cello_rasp> hah
[03:07] <thegladiator> pkern, just google and i and i am sure you can get phex .  you need suns java first though
[03:07] <yatesy> private message
[03:07] <raphink> lol
[03:07] <brasko> I mean, it's just to slow
[03:07] <brasko> it's unusable
[03:07] <cello_rasp> az is jave so no diff
[03:07] <jim> if you use automatix for ubuntu it will give you sun java 1.5
[03:08] <pkern> thegladiator: At least the screenshots section on phex' site is broken ;)
[03:08] <raphink> except it's not recommended to use automatix
[03:08] <raphink> at all
[03:08] <mebsd> it's out of date.. fluxbox
[03:08] <thegladiator> dont worry pkern , it has a decent to goodish GUI IMHO
[03:08] <pkern> What's the current recommended way to install Java on Ubuntu?
[03:08] <cello_rasp> az is a tried and tested client. the only problem is the java and phex will have the same java
[03:08] <jim> what i do is add the repos from auto matix which are the plf repos ect  and i havent had a problem
[03:08] <mebsd> i've been using fluxbox 0.9.14 for about a year, but in ubuntu still it's 0.9.12
[03:08] <raphink> pkern: look at the wiki page on RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <cello_rasp> pkern go to the azureus site and install from the sun java source
[03:09] <pkern> I guess j2sdk1.4 as in Blackdown isn't enough?
[03:09] <pkern> raphink: Ok.
[03:09] <jim> every so often you will have to change them as servers shut down ect
[03:09] <raphink> pkern: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <jim> guys i will be right back i need more coffee
[03:09] <thegladiator> pkern, this is what you need to do install sun's java and get phex . you can run phex as simple as "ava -jar phex.jar" . you could set a launcher for it from the desktop . i need to rush . good luck
[03:09] <brasko> Why does ubuntu use Vino? instead of x11vncserver?
[03:09] <hikenboot> does ubuntu put python in a different location than where it is normally expected?
[03:10] <thegladiator> hikenboot, no
[03:10] <pkern> thegladiator: Thank you.
[03:10] <thegladiator> hikenboot, /usr/bin/python
[03:10] <mevvis> happy new year!!!
[03:10] <pkern> raphink: Exactly what I need, thanks.
[03:10] <thegladiator> hikenboot, its not a practise to change directoies pf pythong and perl etc.
[03:11] <hikenboot> ah ok I get a compile errror that the directory is not found its looking for python 2.4 maybe its a version problem
[03:11] <apokryphos> sebas_: hi, sorry I was out for a bit, would've missed any messages...
[03:12] <pkern> ubotu: Javas
[03:12] <pkern> ubotu: Java
[03:12] <ubotu> pkern: I haven't a clue